TEAM NAME: Mid Price Maniacs
DEF: H. Hartlett, B. Smith, M. Hibberd, R. Murphy, M. Williams, A. McGrath (L. Ryan, A. Witherden)
MID: M. Bontempelli, N. Fyfe, D. Heppell, J. Watson, D. Beams M. Murphy, J. O’meara, D. Swallow (B. Scheer, Z. Fisher, J. Graham)
RUC: T. Goldstein, A. Sandilands (D. Cameron)
FWD: J. Macrae, S. Higgins, P. Ryder, H. Bennell, J. Roughead, J. Elliott (W. Drew, S. Bolton)
CASH LEFT: $23, 200
Defense
Hartlett: He had a lot of off field issues this year and was put on the trade table. I think he now has a point to prove and needs to show port fans why he is on such a long contract. In previous years he has averaged around 100 and I cant see why he wont be able to do that again.
Smith: Although overall his average last season wasn't that good if you take out his concussion effected games he didn't do too badly. With Lyons gone he could get more midfield time which would allow him to get to that above 90 average and become a keeper. I don't see him as injury prone and think that he is a risk worth taking.
Hibberd: A fresh start in an up and coming team can only be a positive for Hibberd. He has shown that he is capable of a 90+ average and although he did miss a year of footy I cant see why he shouldn't do well this season. At 400k it is definitely a risk worth taking.
Murphy: He has been a consistent scorer throughout his career and although he did have a knee reco he is back and training and should get a full pre season. They love Bob down at the kennel and love the ball in his hands. His firsts few games of last season were amazing and I cant see why he wouldn't replicate that again this season.
Williams: He has a point to prove at a new club and a running half back is an area that North are lacking in. He had a solid season at the pies a few years back and I cant see why at 24-25 years of age he cant break onto the scene and become one of the better running half backs in the game and become a keeper although I am expecting a low 80s average which is enough to get some much needed cash but not enough for him to become a keeper. Watching his pre season very closely.
McGrath: He could easily average 80+ and be a solid scorer in my team for most of the season. At 200k it would be stupid not to have him on your field. GWS really wanted him as well so there must be something special about him.
Midfield
Bontempelli: First picked player this year. He could easily be the top scorer come seasons end. I was hoping he would be a bit of a pod this year but a lot of people seem to like him as much as I do. He is only going to improve and I am confident in him with a price tag which isn't too expensive.
Fyfe: Pretty obvious choice. Again he isn't too expensive but could be the top scorer come seasons end. Obvious captain/vice captain choice and if you leave him out and he goes 130 for the season It is going to be extremely hard to make up for the lost points.
Heppell: He is too cheap to ignore. 500k and you could get a potential top 10 mid. He is probably Essendon's best player and although he had a year off I don't think that should hinder his scoring too much. If you leave him out and he averages 110 which is a real possibility you will be kicking yourself.
Watson: He still has the desire too play football and he is reportedly in career best fitness which shows how committed he is too his club. I don't know what I expect from Watson and don't really see him being a top 10 mid but I think at 460k if he can get a 105 average which he is more than capable of I will happily stick with him for most of the season.
Beams: 430k for a potential top 10 mid and keeper is a no brainer in my eyes. He has consistently been one of the best scorers in the game over many seasons and Brisbane would love the ball in his hands. A few years ago Beams was about 300k from memory and everyone was on him. At 400k I don't understand why so many people are hesitant.
Murphy: This may be my patriotism kicking in but although I don't see Murphy averaging enough to be a keeper I cant see why he wouldn't go around that 105 mark. Cripps and Gibbs will take some attention off him and allow him to score well. It is well known that he struggles with a tag but he may not be teams number one concern anymore so I am happy to start with him and keep him for a lot of the season.
O'meara: Hawthorn were willing to give pretty much anything to get this guy. He wants to play for them and everyone knows how talented he is. 370k is an awkward price to pay but he could do anything this season and I think if he is named one round and you don't start him it is going to be a very hard season for you.
Swallow: Too cheap to ignore. If Gold Coast can get a healthy list he should score well with the likes of Ablett, Hanley and Miller around him. Paying less than 300k for a 100+ average seems pretty obvious and I'm surprised at how many teams I have seen without him.
Rucks
Goldstein: I think he will be the number one ruck come seasons end. He had a bad season for his standards and he is a safe option for the captaincy/vice captaincy each week. A lot of people say Daw will steal some points but from what I hear North want him to be a forward and he will just help out like Petrie did.
Sandilands: I honestly don't think he will play a full season but I think he will play enough to get some easy money and he will score decently as well. I intend to turn him into a cheaper Gawn at some stage during the season as I don't think they will score too much differently. for 300k cheaper I am happy to lose 10-15 points and use it else where.
forwards
Macrae: He could be the top forward come seasons end. He is a ball magnet and can easily rack up 30 plus possessions. At his price he is a no brainer for me. He is still young and improving and I cant see why he cant go back to a 100+ average in the forward line.
Higgins: Although he does seem to be injury prone I always think that clubs wont let players play if they don't think they are 100% fit. He has shown that he can score and I don't see why he cant get a 95 average at a weaker north team that will probably give him some midfield minutes. watching his pre season closely.
Ryder: He was a no brainer for me. Can easily go 100+ and should be the number one ruck at Port. Also can come in handy if/when Sandi gets injured. I see him as a keeper at this stage. A year off is concerning but I think as a ruckmen it shouldn't affect him too badly.
Bennell: Had him a few seasons back and he caused me some head aches as one week he would get 130 the next he would get 60 and then he would have a week off. I think at a new club if he can get fit he should find some consistency and at below 400K I am willing to take the risk and hope he becomes a keeper. If he is named round 1 he is in my side.
Roughead: Consistently has averaged 95+ in the past and although I don't expect that this season due to his illness I cant see why he cant go 85-90. He is back in training and everyone wants to see him playing again. If he is named round one it is going to be very hard to leave him out of my side.
Elliot: He is still young and is heading into his prime. He has shown that he can average 85 consistently in the past and I cant see why he couldn't push that to a low 90's average. In saying that I don't see him becoming a keeper but at below 300k he should make a lot of cash and be very helpful for a lot of the season.
I know my team is full of risks but if they pay off I will be miles in front of the pack. (I know It is a very big if ;))
Benell is a long way from playing i reckon. There are just way too many risks in this side. Sure, you can take a few and it can pay of huge. But you have too many and some will weight your side down. Both Murphys i think will struggle early, Bennell, higgins i dont like chances of getting many games in, Jobe watson- not sure he wants to be there. And B smith has burnt everybody numerous times. Other than that, the other risks i dont mind.
Just my thoughts but :)
9 keepers at most. Too many guys who won't score enough to be keepers and won't make as much as rookies. Injury risks galore.
Would you really prefer Hepp + Elliott over Danger and Luggage? No keepers, less points, no captain option.
Ooft, Higgins! Rate that, especially with north not having many mids!
Way I see it only 4 keepers, but as you said that'll change.
Probably my advice for "mid-price strategy" is have 6 rookies onfield 2 on each of the main lines or 2def 1mid 3fwd... should get you to 10, 100%, keepers.
Eg. downgrade Williams, Swallow, JOM, Roughy, Bennell --> spread cash evenly
That's how i see it anyway! Welcome back MS
If Murphy averages 105 as you say he will, incredibly unlikely, surely you would hang onto him? Even at M9?
David Swallow you say will be a 100+ average player, yet he has only averaged 100+ for the season on one occasion? Not to mention he has missed a heap of footy of late, there is no way he will average such an astronomical figure after what is basically a two year lay off.
Your going to have a very rough ride with guys like Brodie Smith and Higgins, it's not 2014/2015 anymore, players become fantasy irrelevant.
I think you need to settle down your expectations for some of these mid pricers and consider that you'll likely be much better off with rooks and premos.
Take a snapshot of it - will be at least 8 changes. Agree with you re Goldy and Ryder, but too few cash cow spots IMO
Haha Murphy avg. 105 I got him last year when cheap thinking the same thing , every time he walks onto the field he gets tagged he is on the never ever list for me
Quote from: shaker on December 15, 2016, 09:44:02 AM
Haha Murphy avg. 105 I got him last year when cheap thinking the same thing , every time he walks onto the field he gets tagged he is on the never ever list for me
Both Cripps and Gibbs had great years last year and that will take a lot of pressure off Murphy.
Nice team and reasoning - Just a little too many risks with players returning from injury/suspension for my liking but you are well aware of risks and as we know this will not be the line up round 1.
Also would like to see a premium Defender at D1.
Good start.
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Haha Murphy avg. 105 I got him last year when cheap thinking the same thing , every time he walks onto the field he gets tagged he is on the never ever list for me
Both Cripps and Gibbs had great years last year and that will take a lot of pressure off Murphy.
Really even though they both had great years Murphy still got tagged what games he did play ?
Quote from: Ringo on December 15, 2016, 12:28:25 PM
Nice team and reasoning - Just a little too many risks with players returning from injury/suspension for my liking but you are well aware of risks and as we know this will not be the line up round 1.
Also would like to see a premium Defender at D1.
Good start.
Thanks mate. Considering Hartlett will average over 100 I would think that he is a premium defender ;)
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Haha Murphy avg. 105 I got him last year when cheap thinking the same thing , every time he walks onto the field he gets tagged he is on the never ever list for me
Both Cripps and Gibbs had great years last year and that will take a lot of pressure off Murphy.
Really even though they both had great years Murphy still got tagged what games he did play ?
You are correct but teams will have to focus on all 3 now rather than just Murphy like they used too. If teams only focused on Murphy Cripps and Gibbs would run wild.
Macrae has been downgraded to Heeney. He wants more midfield time and with Mitchell gone I can't see why he wouldn't get it. 100 avg here he comes 8)
Quote from: Money Shot on December 16, 2016, 03:18:21 PM
Macrae has been downgraded to Heeney. He wants more midfield time and with Mitchell gone I can't see why he wouldn't get it. 100 avg here he comes 8)
Feel like he will still spend a lot of time up forward... swans have a very good midfield, if anything Jake Lloyd gets more time there for me. Plus he adds so much to there forward line. At that price though i reckon he will be a top 20 forward for sure, just wouldn't be picking him counting on a 90+ average. 85-90 any thing more is a bonus. He's a F7 for me
word of advice the only north guy you pick is Goldy the rest are fantasy irrelevant.
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Macrae has been downgraded to Heeney. He wants more midfield time and with Mitchell gone I can't see why he wouldn't get it. 100 avg here he comes 8)
Feel like he will still spend a lot of time up forward... swans have a very good midfield, if anything Jake Lloyd gets more time there for me. Plus he adds so much to there forward line. At that price though i reckon he will be a top 20 forward for sure, just wouldn't be picking him counting on a 90+ average. 85-90 any thing more is a bonus. He's a F7 for me
Thanks mate :) good advice!
Quote from: Holz on December 16, 2016, 08:29:46 PM
word of advice the only north guy you pick is Goldy the rest are fantasy irrelevant.
Haha, cheers mate! I guess you would know best ;)
Hey guys, I'm making a less 'mid price crazy' team now.
How ever I was wondering what everyones thoughts are on KK from Gold Coast? was his stellar year a one hit wonder or do we think he can get back to a 90 avg this year? thanks.
Could be worth a punt - With Malceskis retirement he may get more responsibility but how Barlows arrival will effect team is await and see. Preseason games may provide answers.
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Could be worth a punt - With Malceskis retirement he may get more responsibility but how Barlows arrival will effect team is await and see. Preseason games may provide answers.
Thanks mate. I think I will leave him out for now and bring in a premium and I can always downgrade later.
More opinions welcome :)
Getting KK is a bit craycray (crazy).
Defence will want to be filled with the likes of Docherty, Monty, Adams, Shaw, Laird, Rance, Vince, Boyd, Simpson, and even JJ who comes before KK anyway, alphabetically at least. ;)
Too many good picks available. Can't see KK as one... too speculative for mine.
Quote from: enzedder on December 19, 2016, 09:17:35 AM
Getting KK is a bit craycray (crazy).
Defence will want to be filled with the likes of Docherty, Monty, Adams, Shaw, Laird, Rance, Vince, Boyd, Simpson, and even JJ who comes before KK anyway, alphabetically at least. ;)
Too many good picks available. Can't see KK as one... too speculative for mine.
Yeah good point! The defence actually have better scoring potential than the forward line this year. Although I am going for a lot of mid pricers this year I highly doubt KK will be one of them.
Houli, Hartlett, Smith, Hibberd, Murphy, McGrath
Is my current defense, I know that it is still very risky but I have done my research and can't see why they can all go 90+ (accept McGrath)
Houli: Mr. consistent. Will be a bit of a player of difference and does start seasons strong.
Hartlett: before this season was scoring above 100 easily and I think that port will play him in the guts this season.
Smith: the biggest risk in my opinion. Has shown that he can score above 90 throughout a season but if he can this season I don't know.
Hibberd: New Club with decent talls and smalls around him well allow him to play as a free defender. Very confident in a 90-95 average.
Murphy: the doggies love him and love the ball in his hands. Can't see why he wouldn't go 90+ but would happily take a 85 avg and use him as a cash cow.
McGrath: would be silly not to start him as he could potentially score 80 for the season as a midfielder at Essendon.
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Houli, Hartlett, Smith, Hibberd, Murphy, McGrath
Is my current defense, I know that it is still very risky but I have done my research and can't see why they can all go 90+ (accept McGrath)
Houli: Mr. consistent. Will be a bit of a player of difference and does start seasons strong.
Hartlett: before this season was scoring above 100 easily and I think that port will play him in the guts this season.
Smith: the biggest risk in my opinion. Has shown that he can score above 90 throughout a season but if he can this season I don't know.
Hibberd: New Club with decent talls and smalls around him well allow him to play as a free defender. Very confident in a 90-95 average.
Murphy: the doggies love him and love the ball in his hands. Can't see why he wouldn't go 90+ but would happily take a 85 avg and use him as a cash cow.
McGrath: would be silly not to start him as he could potentially score 80 for the season as a midfielder at Essendon.
My issue with this is that, in your ideal scenario, you can only get one of Shaw, Docherty, Simmo, Rance, Joey, Vince, Laird, Boyd, Adams, JJ, etc
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Houli, Hartlett, Smith, Hibberd, Murphy, McGrath
Is my current defense, I know that it is still very risky but I have done my research and can't see why they can all go 90+ (accept McGrath)
Houli: Mr. consistent. Will be a bit of a player of difference and does start seasons strong.
Hartlett: before this season was scoring above 100 easily and I think that port will play him in the guts this season.
Smith: the biggest risk in my opinion. Has shown that he can score above 90 throughout a season but if he can this season I don't know.
Hibberd: New Club with decent talls and smalls around him well allow him to play as a free defender. Very confident in a 90-95 average.
Murphy: the doggies love him and love the ball in his hands. Can't see why he wouldn't go 90+ but would happily take a 85 avg and use him as a cash cow.
McGrath: would be silly not to start him as he could potentially score 80 for the season as a midfielder at Essendon.
My issue with this is that, in your ideal scenario, you can only get one of Shaw, Docherty, Simmo, Rance, Joey, Vince, Laird, Boyd, Adams, JJ, etc
Yeah I know, something I am looking at very closely as well.
At the moment I'm thinking that it will probably be the same amount of trades to get guys like Shaw, Docherty, Simmo etc in but I'll just start off with cheaper guys who could potentially out score them anyways.
3 super premiums and 3 rookies will take a minimum of 3 trades anyways.
5 premiums and 1 rookie will be 1 trade and then 2 straight swaps for the two lowest performing players for cheaper super premiums later in the season.
Shaw and rookie combine for 175 one definite keeper.
Hartlett and Hibberd combine for 180 two possible keepers.
It's a risk I'm willing to take.
what have you sacrificed for that defence? it costs 200k more than the more generic ones
EDIT: 3-0-5 structure compared to your 0-5-3
I have decided that at this stage the two rucks I am going to start with is Jacobs and Sandi with Ryder as the back up in the forward line.
Last year I started with Goldy and Martin and thought that I would take the safer option. The 'safer' option cost me 100's of points throughout the year as I didn't want to waste a trade on either of them.
This is why with Sandi and Jacobs being so cheap I can make some money off them before deciding who I want to have as my two rucks. And I cant see why Jacobs cant be one of the elite rucks in the game again and therefore become a keeper.
Ryder up forward gives me the safety that I'm looking for as well.
Thanks for all the feedback guys it is much appreciated.
Quote from: Money Shot on December 20, 2016, 02:52:41 PM
I have decided that at this stage the two rucks I am going to start with is Jacobs and Sandi with Ryder as the back up in the forward line.
Last year I started with Goldy and Martin and thought that I would take the safer option. The 'safer' option cost me 100's of points throughout the year as I didn't want to waste a trade on either of them.
This is why with Sandi and Jacobs being so cheap I can make some money off them before deciding who I want to have as my two rucks. And I cant see why Jacobs cant be one of the elite rucks in the game again and therefore become a keeper.
Ryder up forward gives me the safety that I'm looking for as well.
Thanks for all the feedback guys it is much appreciated.
Interesting, you'll have to burn a lot of trades to get the top rucks... or just drop points like you did last year. A lot of risk there... You'd want your other lines to be pretty steady
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Quote from: Money Shot on December 20, 2016, 02:52:41 PM
I have decided that at this stage the two rucks I am going to start with is Jacobs and Sandi with Ryder as the back up in the forward line.
Last year I started with Goldy and Martin and thought that I would take the safer option. The 'safer' option cost me 100's of points throughout the year as I didn't want to waste a trade on either of them.
This is why with Sandi and Jacobs being so cheap I can make some money off them before deciding who I want to have as my two rucks. And I cant see why Jacobs cant be one of the elite rucks in the game again and therefore become a keeper.
Ryder up forward gives me the safety that I'm looking for as well.
Thanks for all the feedback guys it is much appreciated.
Interesting, you'll have to burn a lot of trades to get the top rucks... or just drop points like you did last year. A lot of risk there... You'd want your other lines to be pretty steady
I think Jacobs can be a top ruck again.
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I have decided that at this stage the two rucks I am going to start with is Jacobs and Sandi with Ryder as the back up in the forward line.
Last year I started with Goldy and Martin and thought that I would take the safer option. The 'safer' option cost me 100's of points throughout the year as I didn't want to waste a trade on either of them.
This is why with Sandi and Jacobs being so cheap I can make some money off them before deciding who I want to have as my two rucks. And I cant see why Jacobs cant be one of the elite rucks in the game again and therefore become a keeper.
Ryder up forward gives me the safety that I'm looking for as well.
Thanks for all the feedback guys it is much appreciated.
Interesting, you'll have to burn a lot of trades to get the top rucks... or just drop points like you did last year. A lot of risk there... You'd want your other lines to be pretty steady
I think Jacobs can be a top ruck again.
No doubt, if he gets fit again... He's a top 5 for sure for me... 110 is his cap though and goldstein and gawn can both go higher
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I have decided that at this stage the two rucks I am going to start with is Jacobs and Sandi with Ryder as the back up in the forward line.
Last year I started with Goldy and Martin and thought that I would take the safer option. The 'safer' option cost me 100's of points throughout the year as I didn't want to waste a trade on either of them.
This is why with Sandi and Jacobs being so cheap I can make some money off them before deciding who I want to have as my two rucks. And I cant see why Jacobs cant be one of the elite rucks in the game again and therefore become a keeper.
Ryder up forward gives me the safety that I'm looking for as well.
Thanks for all the feedback guys it is much appreciated.
Interesting, you'll have to burn a lot of trades to get the top rucks... or just drop points like you did last year. A lot of risk there... You'd want your other lines to be pretty steady
I think Jacobs can be a top ruck again.
No doubt, if he gets fit again... He's a top 5 for sure for me... 110 is his cap though and goldstein and gawn can both go higher
Although they can go higher it doesn't mean they will ;)
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I have decided that at this stage the two rucks I am going to start with is Jacobs and Sandi with Ryder as the back up in the forward line.
Last year I started with Goldy and Martin and thought that I would take the safer option. The 'safer' option cost me 100's of points throughout the year as I didn't want to waste a trade on either of them.
This is why with Sandi and Jacobs being so cheap I can make some money off them before deciding who I want to have as my two rucks. And I cant see why Jacobs cant be one of the elite rucks in the game again and therefore become a keeper.
Ryder up forward gives me the safety that I'm looking for as well.
Thanks for all the feedback guys it is much appreciated.
Interesting, you'll have to burn a lot of trades to get the top rucks... or just drop points like you did last year. A lot of risk there... You'd want your other lines to be pretty steady
I think Jacobs can be a top ruck again.
No doubt, if he gets fit again... He's a top 5 for sure for me... 110 is his cap though and goldstein and gawn can both go higher
Although they can go higher it doesn't mean they will ;)
No third up ruck rule will help the likes of Jacobs. It'll probably mean Goldy and Gawn will dominate more too.
Sauce is a risky pick. Could break your season. Doubt it'll make your season.
Grundy is the next best ruck after Gawn and Goldy... wouldn't go searching for others personally but it's your team.
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I have decided that at this stage the two rucks I am going to start with is Jacobs and Sandi with Ryder as the back up in the forward line.
Last year I started with Goldy and Martin and thought that I would take the safer option. The 'safer' option cost me 100's of points throughout the year as I didn't want to waste a trade on either of them.
This is why with Sandi and Jacobs being so cheap I can make some money off them before deciding who I want to have as my two rucks. And I cant see why Jacobs cant be one of the elite rucks in the game again and therefore become a keeper.
Ryder up forward gives me the safety that I'm looking for as well.
Thanks for all the feedback guys it is much appreciated.
Interesting, you'll have to burn a lot of trades to get the top rucks... or just drop points like you did last year. A lot of risk there... You'd want your other lines to be pretty steady
I think Jacobs can be a top ruck again.
No doubt, if he gets fit again... He's a top 5 for sure for me... 110 is his cap though and goldstein and gawn can both go higher
Although they can go higher it doesn't mean they will ;)
No third up ruck rule will help the likes of Jacobs. It'll probably mean Goldy and Gawn will dominate more too.
Sauce is a risky pick. Could break your season. Doubt it'll make your season.
Grundy is the next best ruck after Gawn and Goldy... wouldn't go searching for others personally but it's your team.
Really is something to consider. I personally think the pure ruckmen in the game like Goldy, Gawn and Jacobs will have a great season with the third man up rule in place.
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I have decided that at this stage the two rucks I am going to start with is Jacobs and Sandi with Ryder as the back up in the forward line.
Last year I started with Goldy and Martin and thought that I would take the safer option. The 'safer' option cost me 100's of points throughout the year as I didn't want to waste a trade on either of them.
This is why with Sandi and Jacobs being so cheap I can make some money off them before deciding who I want to have as my two rucks. And I cant see why Jacobs cant be one of the elite rucks in the game again and therefore become a keeper.
Ryder up forward gives me the safety that I'm looking for as well.
Thanks for all the feedback guys it is much appreciated.
Interesting, you'll have to burn a lot of trades to get the top rucks... or just drop points like you did last year. A lot of risk there... You'd want your other lines to be pretty steady
I think Jacobs can be a top ruck again.
No doubt, if he gets fit again... He's a top 5 for sure for me... 110 is his cap though and goldstein and gawn can both go higher
Although they can go higher it doesn't mean they will ;)
No third up ruck rule will help the likes of Jacobs. It'll probably mean Goldy and Gawn will dominate more too.
Sauce is a risky pick. Could break your season. Doubt it'll make your season.
Grundy is the next best ruck after Gawn and Goldy... wouldn't go searching for others personally but it's your team.
Really is something to consider. I personally think the pure ruckmen in the game like Goldy, Gawn and Jacobs will have a great season with the third man up rule in place.
It'd be less than 5 hitouts a game which are up for grabs anyway... i doubt its gonna have a massive impact on anyone, probably will hamper the bonts scores more than anything ;)
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Quote from: Money Shot on December 20, 2016, 02:52:41 PM
I have decided that at this stage the two rucks I am going to start with is Jacobs and Sandi with Ryder as the back up in the forward line.
Last year I started with Goldy and Martin and thought that I would take the safer option. The 'safer' option cost me 100's of points throughout the year as I didn't want to waste a trade on either of them.
This is why with Sandi and Jacobs being so cheap I can make some money off them before deciding who I want to have as my two rucks. And I cant see why Jacobs cant be one of the elite rucks in the game again and therefore become a keeper.
Ryder up forward gives me the safety that I'm looking for as well.
Thanks for all the feedback guys it is much appreciated.
Interesting, you'll have to burn a lot of trades to get the top rucks... or just drop points like you did last year. A lot of risk there... You'd want your other lines to be pretty steady
I think Jacobs can be a top ruck again.
No doubt, if he gets fit again... He's a top 5 for sure for me... 110 is his cap though and goldstein and gawn can both go higher
Although they can go higher it doesn't mean they will ;)
No third up ruck rule will help the likes of Jacobs. It'll probably mean Goldy and Gawn will dominate more too.
Sauce is a risky pick. Could break your season. Doubt it'll make your season.
Grundy is the next best ruck after Gawn and Goldy... wouldn't go searching for others personally but it's your team.
Really is something to consider. I personally think the pure ruckmen in the game like Goldy, Gawn and Jacobs will have a great season with the third man up rule in place.
It'd be less than 5 hitouts a game which are up for grabs anyway... i doubt its gonna have a massive impact on anyone, probably will hamper the bonts scores more than anything ;)
I think you mispelt Blicavs ;)
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Adams, Laird, McGrath, Keefe, Scharenberg, Hampton (Ryan, Witherden)
Dangerfield,Pendlebury, Rockliff, Sloane, Bontempelli, Fyfe, Petrevski-Seton, Meyers (Fisher, Graham, Scheer)
Gawn, Goldstein (Cameron)
Dahlhaus, Macrae, McCluggage, Ainsworth, Bowes, Sympkin (Bolton, Drew)
Cash: $264,700
Watchlist: Hartlett, Swallow, O'meara, Ryder, Bennell
Team looking good bit I think there are a couple areas for improvement.
Defenders: Only have 2 prems is a big risk but could pay off big. In my opinon upgrade maybe keefe or someone for someone like a shaw.
Mid: Solid, like every year for year. Maybe one do many prem mid could downgrade get some cash and improve Defence or Forward.
Ruck: Gawn great pick most likley gonna have him in my team rd1. Goldy is a risk after last year a bit disappointing and this year with them being without good forwards could kick some goals and get big scores.
Forward: With the cash can get 1 more prem and get rid of one of your rooks.
Quote from: Money Shot on December 26, 2016, 01:47:41 PM
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Adams, Laird, McGrath, Keefe, Scharenberg, Hampton (Ryan, Witherden)
Dangerfield,Pendlebury, Rockliff, Sloane, Bontempelli, Fyfe, Petrevski-Seton, Meyers (Fisher, Graham, Scheer)
Gawn, Goldstein (Cameron)
Dahlhaus, Macrae, McCluggage, Ainsworth, Bowes, Sympkin (Bolton, Drew)
Cash: $264,700
Watchlist: Hartlett, Swallow, O'meara, Ryder, Bennell
Like it MS - plenty of rookies down FWD/back who look like getting the nod... the ones you named are only the start of that list.
Not sold on Sloane though... If you could get someone like Hannebery who will benefit from Mitchell leaving I think that'd be a much better option purely because he's a guy who can easily go 115-125 whereas I think sloane's ceiling is about 115
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Quote from: Money Shot on December 26, 2016, 01:47:41 PM
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Adams, Laird, McGrath, Keefe, Scharenberg, Hampton (Ryan, Witherden)
Dangerfield,Pendlebury, Rockliff, Sloane, Bontempelli, Fyfe, Petrevski-Seton, Meyers (Fisher, Graham, Scheer)
Gawn, Goldstein (Cameron)
Dahlhaus, Macrae, McCluggage, Ainsworth, Bowes, Sympkin (Bolton, Drew)
Cash: $264,700
Watchlist: Hartlett, Swallow, O'meara, Ryder, Bennell
Like it MS - plenty of rookies down FWD/back who look like getting the nod... the ones you named are only the start of that list.
Not sold on Sloane though... If you could get someone like Hannebery who will benefit from Mitchell leaving I think that'd be a much better option purely because he's a guy who can easily go 115-125 whereas I think sloane's ceiling is about 115
I could be wrong here but I feel as though Sloane over the years has been more consistent and with the midfield I already have I already have guys that can go 125+ and although sloanes ceiling isn't as high I feel as though he will always give you 100-120 each week which I would prefer than a 80-140.
Sloaney is a gun. However you may need to drop him to a rookie to get another defence premo pending rookie options at the start of the season.
Quote from: GoLions on December 28, 2016, 11:27:14 AM
Sloaney is a gun. However you may need to drop him to a rookie to get another defence premo pending rookie options at the start of the season.
Yeah he is! But he would be the first dropped also.
I have enough money that I could go Hampton into Hartlett or Sympkin into Ryder so that's what I would most likely be doing at this stage anyways.
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Hi MS, like your second team. Personally don't see the advantage of weakening your midfield, as earlier suggested, to strengthen either your defence of forward line. Can't see who you'd bring in that would increase your scoring and money making ability to make it a viable proposition. I would suggest you keep an eye on Scooter Selwood to see what role the Cats have in mind for him, perhaps put him on your watchlist. I've changed my team a couple of hundred times already trying to find the right combination of players and it is currently different to anything I have put up as yet. But this is my midfield at this point in time :-
Danger, Pendles, Fyfe, T Mitchell, Beams, S Selwood, D Swallow, D Myers, // S Pepper - Powell, J Foote, C Brown
cheers mate ;)
Quote from: Sabretooth Tigers on December 28, 2016, 11:10:10 PM
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Hi MS, like your second team. Personally don't see the advantage of weakening your midfield, as earlier suggested, to strengthen either your defence of forward line. Can't see who you'd bring in that would increase your scoring and money making ability to make it a viable proposition. I would suggest you keep an eye on Scooter Selwood to see what role the Cats have in mind for him, perhaps put him on your watchlist. I've changed my team a couple of hundred times already trying to find the right combination of players and it is currently different to anything I have put up as yet. But this is my midfield at this point in time :-
Danger, Pendles, Fyfe, T Mitchell, Beams, S Selwood, D Swallow, D Myers, // S Pepper - Powell, J Foote, C Brown
cheers mate ;)
First four are guns and I love the Mitchell pick. Beams I don't think will score enough to be a keeper as he has to manage himself for the rest of his carrer, Selwood is to be a risk for me and I don't think he will go over 90+ and therefore be a wasted pick (imo) Swallow I like however as he could average 100 and be a great stepping stone. Myers is a gun.
Quote from: Money Shot on December 19, 2016, 10:40:06 AM
Quote from: enzedder on December 19, 2016, 09:17:35 AM
Getting KK is a bit craycray (crazy).
Defence will want to be filled with the likes of Docherty, Monty, Adams, Shaw, Laird, Rance, Vince, Boyd, Simpson, and even JJ who comes before KK anyway, alphabetically at least. ;)
Too many good picks available. Can't see KK as one... too speculative for mine.
Yeah good point! The defence actually have better scoring potential than the forward line this year. Although I am going for a lot of mid pricers this year I highly doubt KK will be one of them.
MS welcome to 2017 teams mate, What is your thinking behind a mid pricer defence? I do find it difficult to justify high 500K prices for def prems. On the other hand we will need to have Shaw, Doc, Simmo by year end so a strategy must account for how to get them into the team as well.
Quote from: Money Shot on December 29, 2016, 10:56:30 AM
Quote from: Sabretooth Tigers on December 28, 2016, 11:10:10 PM
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Hi MS, like your second team. Personally don't see the advantage of weakening your midfield, as earlier suggested, to strengthen either your defence of forward line. Can't see who you'd bring in that would increase your scoring and money making ability to make it a viable proposition. I would suggest you keep an eye on Scooter Selwood to see what role the Cats have in mind for him, perhaps put him on your watchlist. I've changed my team a couple of hundred times already trying to find the right combination of players and it is currently different to anything I have put up as yet. But this is my midfield at this point in time :-
Danger, Pendles, Fyfe, T Mitchell, Beams, S Selwood, D Swallow, D Myers, // S Pepper - Powell, J Foote, C Brown
cheers mate ;)
First four are guns and I love the Mitchell pick. Beams I don't think will score enough to be a keeper as he has to manage himself for the rest of his carrer, Selwood is to be a risk for me and I don't think he will go over 90+ and therefore be a wasted pick (imo) Swallow I like however as he could average 100 and be a great stepping stone. Myers is a gun.
Agree on Beams although still see him as averaging 100 which means he makes us about 120k whilst scoring pretty well. If Scooter averages 90 he makes approx 200k and has good JS. I'm going for money and security plus throw in a little wishful thinking on Beams who most will have anyway. Cheers mate. :)
Quote from: crowls on December 29, 2016, 11:03:47 AM
Quote from: Money Shot on December 19, 2016, 10:40:06 AM
Quote from: enzedder on December 19, 2016, 09:17:35 AM
Getting KK is a bit craycray (crazy).
Defence will want to be filled with the likes of Docherty, Monty, Adams, Shaw, Laird, Rance, Vince, Boyd, Simpson, and even JJ who comes before KK anyway, alphabetically at least. ;)
Too many good picks available. Can't see KK as one... too speculative for mine.
Yeah good point! The defence actually have better scoring potential than the forward line this year. Although I am going for a lot of mid pricers this year I highly doubt KK will be one of them.
MS welcome to 2017 teams mate, What is your thinking behind a mid pricer defence? I do find it difficult to justify high 500K prices for def prems. On the other hand we will need to have Shaw, Doc, Simmo by year end so a strategy must account for how to get them into the team as well.
If you look back a few posts I have completely changed my team structure as I agree. Shaw, Docherty and Simpson should all be in my defence come seasons end.
Quote from: Sabretooth Tigers on December 29, 2016, 01:33:34 PM
Quote from: Money Shot on December 29, 2016, 10:56:30 AM
Quote from: Sabretooth Tigers on December 28, 2016, 11:10:10 PM
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Hi MS, like your second team. Personally don't see the advantage of weakening your midfield, as earlier suggested, to strengthen either your defence of forward line. Can't see who you'd bring in that would increase your scoring and money making ability to make it a viable proposition. I would suggest you keep an eye on Scooter Selwood to see what role the Cats have in mind for him, perhaps put him on your watchlist. I've changed my team a couple of hundred times already trying to find the right combination of players and it is currently different to anything I have put up as yet. But this is my midfield at this point in time :-
Danger, Pendles, Fyfe, T Mitchell, Beams, S Selwood, D Swallow, D Myers, // S Pepper - Powell, J Foote, C Brown
cheers mate ;)
First four are guns and I love the Mitchell pick. Beams I don't think will score enough to be a keeper as he has to manage himself for the rest of his carrer, Selwood is to be a risk for me and I don't think he will go over 90+ and therefore be a wasted pick (imo) Swallow I like however as he could average 100 and be a great stepping stone. Myers is a gun.
Agree on Beams although still see him as averaging 100 which means he makes us about 120k whilst scoring pretty well. If Scooter averages 90 he makes approx 200k and has good JS. I'm going for money and security plus throw in a little wishful thinking on Beams who most will have anyway. Cheers mate. :)
Yeah beams has enough up side to start although he isn't a must in my opinion. So I'm happy to leave him out at this stage and go for a super premo. I must admit that I did have a look at scooter but he just isn't going to score 90 in my opinion with Danger and Joel already scoring 120+ most weeks. I see him averaging around 80 and I personally would save 100k or so and get a proper rookie in who will only score 5 points less.
Quote from: Sabretooth Tigers on December 29, 2016, 01:33:34 PM
Quote from: Money Shot on December 29, 2016, 10:56:30 AM
Quote from: Sabretooth Tigers on December 28, 2016, 11:10:10 PM
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Hi MS, like your second team. Personally don't see the advantage of weakening your midfield, as earlier suggested, to strengthen either your defence of forward line. Can't see who you'd bring in that would increase your scoring and money making ability to make it a viable proposition. I would suggest you keep an eye on Scooter Selwood to see what role the Cats have in mind for him, perhaps put him on your watchlist. I've changed my team a couple of hundred times already trying to find the right combination of players and it is currently different to anything I have put up as yet. But this is my midfield at this point in time :-
Danger, Pendles, Fyfe, T Mitchell, Beams, S Selwood, D Swallow, D Myers, // S Pepper - Powell, J Foote, C Brown
cheers mate ;)
First four are guns and I love the Mitchell pick. Beams I don't think will score enough to be a keeper as he has to manage himself for the rest of his carrer, Selwood is to be a risk for me and I don't think he will go over 90+ and therefore be a wasted pick (imo) Swallow I like however as he could average 100 and be a great stepping stone. Myers is a gun.
Agree on Beams although still see him as averaging 100 which means he makes us about 120k whilst scoring pretty well. If Scooter averages 90 he makes approx 200k and has good JS. I'm going for money and security plus throw in a little wishful thinking on Beams who most will have anyway. Cheers mate. :)
I think you are being a bit optimistic with those numbers, Beams would be around a 60k rise, SSelwood 160k
The magic number used during the year is considerably lower than the one used to calculate players starting prices.
Quote from: Gigantor on December 29, 2016, 03:48:42 PM
Quote from: Sabretooth Tigers on December 29, 2016, 01:33:34 PM
Quote from: Money Shot on December 29, 2016, 10:56:30 AM
Quote from: Sabretooth Tigers on December 28, 2016, 11:10:10 PM
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Hi MS, like your second team. Personally don't see the advantage of weakening your midfield, as earlier suggested, to strengthen either your defence of forward line. Can't see who you'd bring in that would increase your scoring and money making ability to make it a viable proposition. I would suggest you keep an eye on Scooter Selwood to see what role the Cats have in mind for him, perhaps put him on your watchlist. I've changed my team a couple of hundred times already trying to find the right combination of players and it is currently different to anything I have put up as yet. But this is my midfield at this point in time :-
Danger, Pendles, Fyfe, T Mitchell, Beams, S Selwood, D Swallow, D Myers, // S Pepper - Powell, J Foote, C Brown
cheers mate ;)
First four are guns and I love the Mitchell pick. Beams I don't think will score enough to be a keeper as he has to manage himself for the rest of his carrer, Selwood is to be a risk for me and I don't think he will go over 90+ and therefore be a wasted pick (imo) Swallow I like however as he could average 100 and be a great stepping stone. Myers is a gun.
Agree on Beams although still see him as averaging 100 which means he makes us about 120k whilst scoring pretty well. If Scooter averages 90 he makes approx 200k and has good JS. I'm going for money and security plus throw in a little wishful thinking on Beams who most will have anyway. Cheers mate. :)
I think you are being a bit optimistic with those numbers, Beams would be around a 60k rise, SSelwood 160k
The magic number used during the year is considerably lower than the one used to calculate players starting prices.
Thanks for that Mr G I hadn't taken that into account. Back to the drawing board. ;)
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Quote from: Gigantor on December 29, 2016, 03:48:42 PM
Quote from: Sabretooth Tigers on December 29, 2016, 01:33:34 PM
Quote from: Money Shot on December 29, 2016, 10:56:30 AM
Quote from: Sabretooth Tigers on December 28, 2016, 11:10:10 PM
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Hi MS, like your second team. Personally don't see the advantage of weakening your midfield, as earlier suggested, to strengthen either your defence of forward line. Can't see who you'd bring in that would increase your scoring and money making ability to make it a viable proposition. I would suggest you keep an eye on Scooter Selwood to see what role the Cats have in mind for him, perhaps put him on your watchlist. I've changed my team a couple of hundred times already trying to find the right combination of players and it is currently different to anything I have put up as yet. But this is my midfield at this point in time :-
Danger, Pendles, Fyfe, T Mitchell, Beams, S Selwood, D Swallow, D Myers, // S Pepper - Powell, J Foote, C Brown
cheers mate ;)
First four are guns and I love the Mitchell pick. Beams I don't think will score enough to be a keeper as he has to manage himself for the rest of his carrer, Selwood is to be a risk for me and I don't think he will go over 90+ and therefore be a wasted pick (imo) Swallow I like however as he could average 100 and be a great stepping stone. Myers is a gun.
Agree on Beams although still see him as averaging 100 which means he makes us about 120k whilst scoring pretty well. If Scooter averages 90 he makes approx 200k and has good JS. I'm going for money and security plus throw in a little wishful thinking on Beams who most will have anyway. Cheers mate. :)
I think you are being a bit optimistic with those numbers, Beams would be around a 60k rise, SSelwood 160k
The magic number used during the year is considerably lower than the one used to calculate players starting prices.
Thanks for that Mr G I hadn't taken that into account. Back to the drawing board. ;)
Think beams is a good choice still as there is a chance he could be a keeper.
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Adams, Laird, McGrath, Keefe, Scharenberg, Hampton (Ryan, Witherden)
Dangerfield,Pendlebury, Rockliff, Sloane, Bontempelli, Fyfe, Petrevski-Seton, Meyers (Fisher, Graham, Scheer)
Gawn, Goldstein (Cameron)
Dahlhaus, Macrae, McCluggage, Ainsworth, Bowes, Sympkin (Bolton, Drew)
Cash: $264,700
Watchlist: Hartlett, Swallow, O'meara, Ryder, Bennell
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Adams, Laird, McGrath, Keefe, Scharenberg, Hampton (Ryan, Witherden)
Dangerfield,Pendlebury, Rockliff, Sloane, Bontempelli, Fyfe, Petrevski-Seton, Meyers (Fisher, Graham, Scheer)
Gawn, Goldstein (Cameron)
Dahlhaus, Macrae, McCluggage, Ainsworth, Bowes, Sympkin (Bolton, Drew)
Cash: $264,700
Watchlist: Hartlett, Swallow, O'meara, Ryder, Bennell
With that cash... You have plenty of the premium priced rookies, so when they do pop up you'll be able to afford them even without that cash in hand.
I reckon you go Bowes to Ryder, i personally think ryder can be a top 10 forward (92+ seems about par) and the bonus is the ruck coverage he gives you which is a worse case scenario if he doesn't end up 85+.
Only change I would make and your team though is
Cameron to Strnadica (Great loophole option with the number of late games Dockers play compared to Sydney)
Bowes to Ryder or Nankervis for extra r/f cover. Agree with fast track on Ryder has averaged 90+ in 4 out of last 5 seasons played which you would take every time from your final F6/7
Quote from: Ringo on January 04, 2017, 03:00:32 PM
Only change I would make and your team though is
Cameron to Strnadica (Great loophole option with the number of late games Dockers play compared to Sydney)
Bowes to Ryder or Nankervis for extra r/f cover. Agree with fast track on Ryder has averaged 100+ in 4 out of last 5 seasons played which you would take every time from your final F6/7
Ryder has only averaged 100+ twice in his career but has gone 90+ in 4 out of last 5 which is still decent. Would want 95+ from him to feel he's worth it but I think he should do that
Thanks guys! At this stage I'm watching Ryder very closely.
Hampton to Hartlett
Sympkin to Ryder/Bennell
SPS to Swallow/O'meara
They are the changes im considering. Watching Ryder, Hartlett, Bennell, Swallow and O'meara's pre season very closely.
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The Methamphetamen
Adams, Laird, McGrath, Scharenberg, Hampton, Berry (Ryan, Stewart)
Dangerfield,Pendlebury, Trealor, Rockliff, Sloane, Bontempelli, Fyfe, Powell-Pepper (Myers, Freeman, Graham)
Gawn, Goldstein (Strndica)
Dahlhaus, Macrae, McCluggage, Galluchi, Black, Pickett (Bolton, Eddy)
Cash: $2,000
Backline: I have chosen the two defenders that I think are most likely to be 1 and 2 come seasons end and then went for the more expensive rookie priced players purely because I think they have a stronger scoring capability than most of the 117k players that look like getting a go early.
Adams: He has averaged 97 for the past two seasons and at the age of 23 this could be his season to break out and become a 100+ player. Only concern is he has never played over 18 games in a season. However I along with many other people think this could be his year. Average wise he will be a top 6 defender with out a doubt as he will average 97+ and that is enough for me to confidently start him.
Laird: He has been gradually improving over the last two seasons and last season he went from a 92 to a 97 average. I don't see any reason why he can't improve his average by another 5 and become a top 6 defender. He has established himself as Adelaide's play maker out of the backline and they look to get the ball into his hands. He is 23 and heading into his prime. Worst case scenario is he only averages 95 or so but that's enough for me to start him confidently.
McGrath: Essendon and GWS both wanted him and rightly so, from all reports he is looking more composed than many of his team mates. He played footy last year when a lot of his team didn't so he should be more match ready then a lot of them. I believe he will rotate through the midfield heavily to give a lot of the returning midfielders a break as they increase there match fitness. I think he will have a 75+ average come seasons end which is very nice considering he is priced at a 39 average. (He averaged 145 super coach points at the TAC CUP)
Scharenberg: Collingwood see him as there play maker from across half back for the next 10 seasons and rightly so. When I have seen him play in the VFL he looks like he has so much time and space with ball in hand. I see Collingwood targeting him out of the backline which means he will rack up the possessions. At 160k he isn't really a risk and I see him averaging 70+ in that half back role.
Hampton: Surprised this guy isn't in everyone's side. He has been training with the midfield group at Adelaide and is priced at 160k. Has averaged 74 from 11 games in the past which is more than enough for someone at his prices. He is now 3 years older and looks like playing in a more super coach friendly role. I cant see why he wouldn't score 75+ again. I hope that people select Keefe over him so I am getting a nice 15 ppg advantage over them. LOCK HIM IN.
Berry: He is a natural leader (Captained Vic Country at the championships) and the lions need someone like him out on the field early in the season. He is a big bodied midfielder who can play as a running defender and that's exactly what I see him doing at Brisbane. He will start off at half back and rotate through the midfield accumulating possessions and therefore points. Bit more expensive than basement price rookies but he is worth the extra 20k in my opinion.
Ryan: He is 20 years of age and already has a big body which is always a good thing for supercoach. He prefers to kick than handball which is another positive in his game. He is 117k so cheap enough to start on your bench. Freo are lacking in tall defenders and I cant see why Ryan wont be named round 1.
Stewart: Another mature aged recruit (23) who from all reports killed it in Geelong's VFL side. If he did well enough in there VFL side to get drafted I cant see why he wont be around the mark come round one as geelongs backline is aging they might like to get some youth in there.
Midfield: Have got 7 midifelders who are all a real chance top be top 10 come seasons end. This is because I think many defenders will drop in price and I cant really predict who the top 10 forwards will be come seasons end. This is why I am stacking up in the midfield as you know what you will get.
Dangerfield: It confuses me as why people are considering leaving him out. He will play every week and is consistent as they get and he gives you a VC/C option every week. He is a player that is too risky to start with out. Just think, last season he started the year going 164, do you want to be missing out on 328 from round 1?
Pendlebury: He has been the most consistent player in supercoaches history and is my first selected player each year. He hasn't went under 116 since 2011. So worst case scenario he drops 5-10 points and goes 110 and is still a top 10 mid. Best case scenario you have a 120+ mid who very rarely scores below 100. Only went below 100 4/23 games last year.
Trealor: Scored over 100 for the first time last season at a new club. He is turning 24 in a month and is heading into his prime so there is no reason why his average wont increase again and even if it doesn't he will score 110 and be a top 10 mid. Now that he is at Collingwood he will only improve as he doesn't have as many up and coming players to compete with.
Rockliff: People seem to be forgetting that in 2014 he averaged 132 from 18 games. I know that it was 3 seasons ago now but I cant see why he couldn't score go 120+ this season. According to the guys at Brisbane he is looking as fit as they have ever seen him and he certainly has a point to prove this season. I like how he is a slight pod in my side with under 10% of the comp owning him at this stage. Worst case scenario he gets injured and I have to trade him to someone like Kennedy from Sydney. He is a risk I'm willing to take.
Sloane: Hasn't went below 105 since 2012 and now that he is in his prime I cant see any reason why he would. He showed us last season that he can score well with Danger scoring 108 and I think with a young and improving midfield around him he can reach 110 as he wont have to worry about teams targeting him. He is just so consistent and with guys like Fyfe and Rocky in my team he is someone I can count on being there come round 23.
Bontempelli: I'm shocked that his ownership is so high at this stage in the season and I was hoping that he would be around 10% rather than around 50%. However he is one of my favorite players to watch and people seem to forget that he has only just turned 21. He has still got another few years to improve before he even hits his prime. His average will only increase this season and that is enough to convince me to start him. BTW I am aware that he will lose points from the third man up being abolished but I just think he will get another hard ball get/clearance from it so I'm not too fussed.
Fyfe: He scored 120+ the two seasons before last and I don't see why he cant go back to those averages again. He is underpriced due to injuries last season and again I think he is too much of a risk to start without. If you don't start him and he starts the first 5 rounds going 120+ It will be very hard to get him in when you need him later in the season. He is injury prone obviouslt but I see it as a risk not to start him.
Powell-Pepper: I was hoping he would slip to Carltons second round pick to be honest as he has the body to play round one. He butchers the ball a bit which isn't good for supercoach but he is a tackling machine who can kick goals which should be enough to get him to 70 supercoach points most games which is more than enough for a 135k rookie. He did average 120 points in the WAFL colts which is encouraging.
Myers: Hasn't played footy in two years pretty much which is a bit concerning but he is only 27 years of age so he has plenty left in the tank. 3 years ago he managed to average 85 and all we want from him is 70+ he is a pretty safe bet to get that I would think. At 130k everyone should have him.
Freeman: When he was drafted he was meant to be one of the best players in the draft, unfortunately injuries have held him back. He is a few years older and bigger now which means he should slot into the AFL comfortably all we need is him to stay fit. At 123k I see a 70 average extremely possible so I am happy with him starting at M10.
Graham: A ready made inside midfielder who will be lining up round one for the tigers. I predicted him going at about pick 30 and the fact that he slipped all the way to the tiges at 53 is good as now he is only 117k. He was a former South Australian U18's captain and Richmond would love his leadership in the middle of the ground. Again I don't see why he cant muster up 70+ points most games.
Rucks: Set and Forget can't be stuffed messing around with Sandi and wasting trades if and when he gets injured.
Gawn: The thing that I like about Gawn is that he is only 25 so he still has plenty of years left where he will be at his 'prime'. He has such a huge ceiling with 6 games over 150 last season. He is too big a risk not too start with for me as if he hits 150 a few times in the first few weeks whoever doesn't have him will be behind the pack who does. That's why I'm paying the big bucks for him now.
Goldy: You could argue that he is underpriced due to injury and the fact that he had a bad year and averaged 108 astonishes me. I don't think that he can go back to a 128 average due to the lack of talented midfielders at North but I can see a 110-115 average which should be enough to be a top 2 ruck come seasons end.
Forwards: Dahl and Macrae are locks as you know what you are going to get with them and they will no doubt be top 10 forwards, they are the only two I can confidently say will average 95+. Apart from that I am struggling to pick the others so I have decided to load up on rookies and see what forwards are performing later in the season.
Dahlhous: He is 24 years of age and heading into his prime. Two seasons ago now he averaged 105 but dropped back to a 95 average this season. I put this down to a much stronger bulldogs side with more points to be shared around as well as having a 27 in round 12 where he got injured. Anyways I cant see him going below 95 and if he averages 95 that should be enough to be a top 10 forward with the lack of options this year.
Macrae: This guy is only 22 years of age so he is still improving each and every season, the two years before last he averaged 100 and dropped 5 ppg to 95 this season. I think this is because of so many bulldogs improving that they had to share the points around. So similar to Dahl I think that worst case is he averages 95 and is a top 10 forward.
McCluggage: A goal kicking midfielder is what the lions need and they got that with McCluggage. From all reports he already looks a class above most of his team mates and I think he could easily average 75+. What more could you want from a 200k forward. He is a real chance to be in the centre of the ground come round one and this is why he is locked in mine and many other teams.
Galluchi: I went to primary school with him and even then you knew that he was going to play AFL one day. So I may be a bit biased here but my thinking is that Adelaide really wanted Gibbs and Galluchi plays very similar to him. They lost Lyons to the Gold Coast which means there is a spot vacant for him to slip right into. Heres hoping he is named round 1.
Black: I think people forget that only a few years ago he averaged 77. The only reason he didn't get games at north was because they recruited Waite and Brown emerged. At a new club that is in need of someone to help Hawkins I cant see why he couldn't go 70+ again. My dad is a huge north fan and he always rated him so I am confident in him at this stage.
Pickett: People seem to forget that this guy was pick number 4 in the national draft a couple of years ago, so clearly he has talent. North need a forward pocket like Pickett and I think he will be named round one. Only thing is I don't think he will score very well or consistently but I think we can expect a 65-70 average from him which isn't bad for a 123k player as it will still make some money.
Bolton: He is everything you want in a small forward, he is super quick (possibly quickest at the club) and has a good game sense about him. He has impressed early and doing everything he can to push for a round one selection. Only concern is his scoring ability as small forwards usually struggle to score well. I see a 65-70 average occurring which is enough considering he is basement price.
Eddy: Probably the biggest lock in my side at the moment for a below 500k player. He was the top goal score in the SAFL last season and he is the perfect person to replace Schulz. He is 27 years of age so they have obviously recruited him to play. Again I think an average around 70 is possible if he does infact take Schulz's side in the team.
All good on paper but the chance of 8 cheapies playing in your fwd's and backs every week and scoring good well that will kill your loaded mids and gun rucks
As Brisbane supporter MS not a 100% certain the McCluggage will start Rd 1. hard to break into a midfield of Rocky, Beams, Matthieson, Zorko, Robbo, Rich, Keays. Depends on Fagan as to how he uses Rich and who replaces Hanley. Liam Dawson also waiting in the wings.
Quote from: Money Shot on January 31, 2017, 07:30:40 PM
Quote from: shaker on January 31, 2017, 07:15:09 PM
All good on paper but the chance of 8 cheapies playing in your fwd's and backs every week and scoring good well that will kill your loaded mids and gun rucks
I think that McCluggage and McGrath don't really count as they are clearly best 22.
So it's only 5 each line and I think that both defence and forwards will have a plethora rookies so I'm confident.
They are still newbies so don't bet on it every year people include all the sure things saying they will play round 1 and every year it never happens , a few will play most won't ;)
Quote from: Ringo on January 31, 2017, 07:37:59 PM
As Brisbane supporter MS not a 100% certain the McCluggage will start Rd 1. hard to break into a midfield of Rocky, Beams, Matthieson, Zorko, Robbo, Rich, Keays. Depends on Fagan as to how he uses Rich and who replaces Hanley. Liam Dawson also waiting in the wings.
Thanks for the info Ringo. If worst comes to worst I can downgrade Sloane to Swallow and I'll have some money to spare.
Quote from: shaker on January 31, 2017, 07:42:32 PM
Quote from: Money Shot on January 31, 2017, 07:30:40 PM
Quote from: shaker on January 31, 2017, 07:15:09 PM
All good on paper but the chance of 8 cheapies playing in your fwd's and backs every week and scoring good well that will kill your loaded mids and gun rucks
I think that McCluggage and McGrath don't really count as they are clearly best 22.
So it's only 5 each line and I think that both defence and forwards will have a plethora rookies so I'm confident.
They are still newbies so don't bet on it every year people include all the sure things saying they will play round 1 and every year it never happens , a few will play most won't ;)
Good point ;) but there's always a few things that pop up out of the blue ;)
Quote from: Money Shot on January 31, 2017, 07:54:11 PM
Quote from: shaker on January 31, 2017, 07:42:32 PM
Quote from: Money Shot on January 31, 2017, 07:30:40 PM
Quote from: shaker on January 31, 2017, 07:15:09 PM
All good on paper but the chance of 8 cheapies playing in your fwd's and backs every week and scoring good well that will kill your loaded mids and gun rucks
I think that McCluggage and McGrath don't really count as they are clearly best 22.
So it's only 5 each line and I think that both defence and forwards will have a plethora rookies so I'm confident.
They are still newbies so don't bet on it every year people include all the sure things saying they will play round 1 and every year it never happens , a few will play most won't ;)
Good point ;) but there's always a few things that pop up out of the blue ;)
Yep and it is still a long way out so it does not hurt to play around a bit but I find I am usually doing half my team after the squads are out for round 1 :P
:)
Love it MS. And most teams will be fielding 9 to 12 rookies in Rd.1 anyway who they'll need to play week in or week out. So everybody's team will be reliant on rookie selection. Disagree on two of your mids but love the team and structure overall. cheers and good luck mate. ;)
While i think this backline structure can work this yr, i don't think it can work across 2 lines in the one team. Without going into to deep, there appears to be enough back rookies at this stage to survive this. With the lack of back mid pricers that are worthing or underpriced premiums, its the place to do this, this yr.... at this stage.
i think its a mistake to take all your chances with all those fwd rookies over taking your chance with underpriced premiums coming back (this includes the other lines bar backs). If a previously injured gun coming back from injury has a full pre season, then he is a cheap fit underpriced gun.
there is just no way in hell your fwd rookie avg score predictions will work out they way. Just a couple of quick examples, Luggage is said to move like Pendles, but Pendles avg under 60 in his first yr albeit 9 games, who's to say Luggage is going to play every game, and the kid plays for arguably the worst team in the AFL. Weltering avg under 70. Hell Selwood only avg 77 in his first yr playing midfield.
You have predicted every one of your fwd rookies to avg 65+, just won't happen. You could deal with 60's from your backs but no way you can compete with under 60's from your fwd as well (again because your not going to get 65-70 from the). Bolton, Black, Picket all scream Impy first yr scores... 50's.
For me you need to make up for that with players like Heeney/Ryder/Roughy who should all go over 85.
By locking in all those fully priced mids your not leaving any room to trade in any fallen prem that we get every yr ala Selwood, Priddis etc etc from yrs gone by.
While you play all those rookies there is every chance the guy who starts a Heeny, Swallow, Sandi, Roughy get a avg of 90 for the first 8 rounds, and gets way ahead. By the time your trying to upgrade from 50-60avg rookies your too far behind.
Its funny that you hope everyone picks Keeffe, i see him as guaranteed 65 avg, where all those fwd rookies i do not.
There is absolutely nothing wrong with any of the prems you have picked, but looking at allot of teams, there will be quite a few that get these cheap guns right while your getting allot of 60's from your rookies.
I have the same backline structure as you but my gut tells me there can only be one line where this can work.
There is no reason why a fully fit Murphy and Beams can't avg the same as Bont and Sloane, then you get another 85+ scoring fwd over a rookie. You will get more pts and thats the game obv.
Bont is 6pts a game overpriced after losing his 1.2 HO to advantage this yr. Natural development in the kid will prob cancel that out, but you aren't going to lose anything by paying the same price for him later imo.
you have obv thought allot about this but i think you are wishing all these rookies to score higher than they will. Wishing these 65-70's from all your fwds to go with all these other guns. In reality its just not going to happen that way in my humble opinion.
You have told yourself, your not going to take any risks with any mid pricers or coming back form injury players, but its just canceled out for mine by starting a fwd line like this to go with your backline.
I think your team would get there eventually but it would be too late by then.
This is just one blokes opinion but thats what you want by posting your team ;)
Good luck for 2017
Quote from: Hippo on January 31, 2017, 10:49:38 PM
While i think this backline structure can work this yr, i don't think it can work across 2 lines in the one team. Without going into to deep, there appears to be enough back rookies at this stage to survive this. With the lack of back mid pricers that are worthing or underpriced premiums, its the place to do this, this yr.... at this stage.
i think its a mistake to take all your chances with all those fwd rookies over taking your chance with underpriced premiums coming back (this includes the other lines bar backs). If a previously injured gun coming back from injury has a full pre season, then he is a cheap fit underpriced gun.
there is just no way in hell your fwd rookie avg score predictions will work out they way. Just a couple of quick examples, Luggage is said to move like Pendles, but Pendles avg under 60 in his first yr albeit 9 games, who's to say Luggage is going to play every game, and the kid plays for arguably the worst team in the AFL. Weltering avg under 70. Hell Selwood only avg 77 in his first yr playing midfield.
You have predicted every one of your fwd rookies to avg 65+, just won't happen. You could deal with 60's from your backs but no way you can compete with under 60's from your fwd as well (again because your not going to get 65-70 from the). Bolton, Black, Picket all scream Impy first yr scores... 50's.
For me you need to make up for that with players like Heeney/Ryder/Roughy who should all go over 85.
By locking in all those fully priced mids your not leaving any room to trade in any fallen prem that we get every yr ala Selwood, Priddis etc etc from yrs gone by.
While you play all those rookies there is every chance the guy who starts a Heeny, Swallow, Sandi, Roughy get a avg of 90 for the first 8 rounds, and gets way ahead. By the time your trying to upgrade from 50-60avg rookies your too far behind.
Its funny that you hope everyone picks Keeffe, i see him as guaranteed 65 avg, where all those fwd rookies i do not.
There is absolutely nothing wrong with any of the prems you have picked, but looking at allot of teams, there will be quite a few that get these cheap guns right while your getting allot of 60's from your rookies.
I have the same backline structure as you but my gut tells me there can only be one line where this can work.
There is no reason why a fully fit Murphy and Beams can't avg the same as Bont and Sloane, then you get another 85+ scoring fwd over a rookie. You will get more pts and thats the game obv.
Bont is 6pts a game overpriced after losing his 1.2 HO to advantage this yr. Natural development in the kid will prob cancel that out, but you aren't going to lose anything by paying the same price for him later imo.
you have obv thought allot about this but i think you are wishing all these rookies to score higher than they will. Wishing these 65-70's from all your fwds to go with all these other guns. In reality its just not going to happen that way in my humble opinion.
You have told yourself, your not going to take any risks with any mid pricers or coming back form injury players, but its just canceled out for mine by starting a fwd line like this to go with your backline.
I think your team would get there eventually but it would be too late by then.
This is just one blokes opinion but thats what you want by posting your team ;)
Good luck for 2017
Thanks mate appreciate it :)
Will mess around with structure later.
Adams, Laird, McGrath, Keefe, Scharenberg, Berry (Hibberd, Ryan)
Danger, Pendles, Trealor, Rocky, Sloane, Bont, Fyfe, Myers (SPP, Freeman, Graham)
Gawn, Goldy (Strndica)
Dahlhaus, Macrae, McCluggage, Bowes, Pickett, Bolton (Eddy, Smith)
Few changes here.
Tom Mitchell is very close to being selected.
Goldy is concerning me a bit but if he is named round one he is in.
Purest GnR team I've seen so far, pretty much zero risk in this team, I like it!
People will say "That backline is too weak" but its all relative, if there are more mid rookies come rd1 out goes a mid prem in comes a back prem, simples.
Quote from: Gigantor on February 06, 2017, 02:54:26 PM
Purest GnR team I've seen so far, pretty much zero risk in this team, I like it!
People will say "That backline is too weak" but its all relative, if there are more mid rookies come rd1 out goes a mid prem in comes a back prem, simples.
Last season I had way to many mid prices so this year I'm playing it smart.
Yeah exactly I like the back/forward rookies more than all the mid rookies (apart from Myers) so that's why I'm going weak there.
I think this team is great. The mid rookies are definitely tougher to choose from than the forwards and backs. It all means nothing until round 1 selection!!!! Good luck
Quote from: Glenmaggie on February 06, 2017, 03:33:15 PM
I think this team is great. The mid rookies are definitely tougher to choose from than the forwards and backs. It all means nothing until round 1 selection!!!! Good luck
Thanks mate :)
The Methamphetamen
Adams, Laird, McGrath, Keefe, Scharenberg, Berry (Hibberd, Ryan)
Dangerfield,Pendlebury, Trealor, Rockliff, Sloane, Bontempelli, Fyfe, Powell-Pepper (Myers, Freeman, Graham)
Gawn, Goldstein (Strndica)
Dahlhaus, Macrae, McCluggage, Bowes, Pickett, Bolton (Smith, Eddy)
Cash: $2,000
Backline: I have chosen the two defenders that I think are most likely to be 1 and 2 come seasons end and then went for the more expensive rookie priced players purely because I think they have a stronger scoring capability than most of the 117k players that look like getting a go early.
Adams: He has averaged 97 for the past two seasons and at the age of 23 this could be his season to break out and become a 100+ player. Only concern is he has never played over 18 games in a season. However I along with many other people think this could be his year. Average wise he will be a top 6 defender with out a doubt as he will average 97+ and that is enough for me to confidently start him.
Laird: He has been gradually improving over the last two seasons and last season he went from a 92 to a 97 average. I don't see any reason why he can't improve his average by another 5 and become a top 6 defender. He has established himself as Adelaide's play maker out of the backline and they look to get the ball into his hands. He is 23 and heading into his prime. Worst case scenario is he only averages 95 or so but that's enough for me to start him confidently.
McGrath: Essendon and GWS both wanted him and rightly so, from all reports he is looking more composed than many of his team mates. He played footy last year when a lot of his team didn't so he should be more match ready then a lot of them. I believe he will rotate through the midfield heavily to give a lot of the returning midfielders a break as they increase there match fitness. I think he will have a 75+ average come seasons end which is very nice considering he is priced at a 39 average. (He averaged 145 super coach points at the TAC CUP) Woosha said that they may ease him into AFL life which is concerning however.
Keefe: Bucks has said that he will be playing a tall forward/back up ruck role. If he was playing as just a tall forward he wouldn't be that appealing to me but now that he will be spending some time in the ruck if he gets a hit out to advantage each quarter that would boost his score by 16 points. That could take his average from a 60 to a mid 70s which is well and truely enough to be a great cash cow.
Scharenberg: Collingwood see him as there play maker from across half back for the next 10 seasons and rightly so. When I have seen him play in the VFL he looks like he has so much time and space with ball in hand. I see Collingwood targeting him out of the backline which means he will rack up the possessions. At 160k he isn't really a risk and I see him averaging 70+ in that half back role.
Berry: He is a natural leader (Captained Vic Country at the championships) and the lions need someone like him out on the field early in the season. He is a big bodied midfielder who can play as a running defender and that's exactly what I see him doing at Brisbane. He will start off at half back and rotate through the midfield accumulating possessions and therefore points. Bit more expensive than basement price rookies but he is worth the extra 20k in my opinion. (Has had an injury setback so he probably won't be there come round one but if he is he's in my team)
Hibberd: North will be wanting to get some talented youth in there side and Hibberd is definitely that. He could even slot into the midfield with the lack of talent that north has in there. He has had a year in the system now to learn how north play and I think he could slot straight in and do well enough to keep his spot. North don't have that many high point scorers so it wouldn't be hard for him to hit around 70 most weeks.
Ryan: He is 20 years of age and already has a big body which is always a good thing for supercoach. He prefers to kick than handball which is another positive in his game. He is 117k so cheap enough to start on your bench. Freo are lacking in tall defenders and I cant see why Ryan wont be named round 1.
Midfield: Have got 7 midifelders who are all a real chance top be top 10 come seasons end. This is because I think many defenders will drop in price and I cant really predict who the top 10 forwards will be come seasons end. This is why I am stacking up in the midfield as you know what you will get.
Dangerfield: It confuses me as why people are considering leaving him out. He will play every week and is consistent as they get and he gives you a VC/C option every week. He is a player that is too risky to start with out. Just think, last season he started the year going 164, do you want to be missing out on 328 from round 1?
Pendlebury: He has been the most consistent player in supercoaches history and is my first selected player each year. He hasn't went under 116 since 2011. So worst case scenario he drops 5-10 points and goes 110 and is still a top 10 mid. Best case scenario you have a 120+ mid who very rarely scores below 100. Only went below 100 4/23 games last year.
Trealor: Scored over 100 for the first time last season at a new club. He is turning 24 in a month and is heading into his prime so there is no reason why his average wont increase again and even if it doesn't he will score 110 and be a top 10 mid. Now that he is at Collingwood he will only improve as he doesn't have as many up and coming players to compete with.
Rockliff: People seem to be forgetting that in 2014 he averaged 132 from 18 games. I know that it was 3 seasons ago now but I cant see why he couldn't score go 120+ this season. According to the guys at Brisbane he is looking as fit as they have ever seen him and he certainly has a point to prove this season. I like how he is a slight pod in my side with under 10% of the comp owning him at this stage. Worst case scenario he gets injured and I have to trade him to someone like Kennedy from Sydney. He is a risk I'm willing to take.
Sloane: Hasn't went below 105 since 2012 and now that he is in his prime I cant see any reason why he would. He showed us last season that he can score well with Danger scoring 108 and I think with a young and improving midfield around him he can reach 110 as he wont have to worry about teams targeting him. He is just so consistent and with guys like Fyfe and Rocky in my team he is someone I can count on being there come round 23.
Bontempelli: I'm shocked that his ownership is so high at this stage in the season and I was hoping that he would be around 10% rather than around 50%. However he is one of my favorite players to watch and people seem to forget that he has only just turned 21. He has still got another few years to improve before he even hits his prime. His average will only increase this season and that is enough to convince me to start him. BTW I am aware that he will lose points from the third man up being abolished but I just think he will get another hard ball get/clearance from it so I'm not too fussed.
Fyfe: He scored 120+ the two seasons before last and I don't see why he cant go back to those averages again. He is underpriced due to injuries last season and again I think he is too much of a risk to start without. If you don't start him and he starts the first 5 rounds going 120+ It will be very hard to get him in when you need him later in the season. He is injury prone obviouslt but I see it as a risk not to start him.
Powell-Pepper: I was hoping he would slip to Carltons second round pick to be honest as he has the body to play round one. He butchers the ball a bit which isn't good for supercoach but he is a tackling machine who can kick goals which should be enough to get him to 70 supercoach points most games which is more than enough for a 135k rookie. He did average 120 points in the WAFL colts which is encouraging.
Myers: Hasn't played footy in two years pretty much which is a bit concerning but he is only 27 years of age so he has plenty left in the tank. 3 years ago he managed to average 85 and all we want from him is 70+ he is a pretty safe bet to get that I would think. At 130k everyone should have him.
Freeman: When he was drafted he was meant to be one of the best players in the draft, unfortunately injuries have held him back. He is a few years older and bigger now which means he should slot into the AFL comfortably all we need is him to stay fit. At 123k I see a 70 average extremely possible so I am happy with him starting at M10. The saints may choose to take it easy with him and not play him straight away but he is in my side for now.
Graham: A ready made inside midfielder who will be lining up round one for the tigers. I predicted him going at about pick 30 and the fact that he slipped all the way to the tiges at 53 is good as now he is only 117k. He was a former South Australian U18's captain and Richmond would love his leadership in the middle of the ground. Again I don't see why he cant muster up 70+ points most games. He has been injured but should still be fit for round one it all depends if he is good enough.
Rucks: Set and Forget can't be stuffed messing around with Sandi and wasting trades if and when he gets injured.
Gawn: The thing that I like about Gawn is that he is only 25 so he still has plenty of years left where he will be at his 'prime'. He has such a huge ceiling with 6 games over 150 last season. He is too big a risk not too start with for me as if he hits 150 a few times in the first few weeks whoever doesn't have him will be behind the pack who does. That's why I'm paying the big bucks for him now.
Goldy: You could argue that he is underpriced due to injury and the fact that he had a bad year and averaged 108 astonishes me. I don't think that he can go back to a 128 average due to the lack of talented midfielders at North but I can see a 110-115 average which should be enough to be a top 2 ruck come seasons end. If he is named round one he is selected in my side (there are injury concerns but they don't concern me ;D)
Forwards: Dahl and Macrae are locks as you know what you are going to get with them and they will no doubt be top 10 forwards, they are the only two I can confidently say will average 95+. Apart from that I am struggling to pick the others so I have decided to load up on rookies and see what forwards are performing later in the season.
Dahlhous: He is 24 years of age and heading into his prime. Two seasons ago now he averaged 105 but dropped back to a 95 average this season. I put this down to a much stronger bulldogs side with more points to be shared around as well as having a 27 in round 12 where he got injured. Anyways I cant see him going below 95 and if he averages 95 that should be enough to be a top 10 forward with the lack of options this year.
Macrae: This guy is only 22 years of age so he is still improving each and every season, the two years before last he averaged 100 and dropped 5 ppg to 95 this season. I think this is because of so many bulldogs improving that they had to share the points around. So similar to Dahl I think that worst case is he averages 95 and is a top 10 forward.
McCluggage: A goal kicking midfielder is what the lions need and they got that with McCluggage. From all reports he already looks a class above most of his team mates and I think he could easily average 70+. What more could you want from a 200k forward. He is a real chance to be in the centre of the ground come round one and this is why he is locked in mine and many other sides.
Bowes: Even the coach said he is likely to be playing round one and that's always promising at this stage of the year. Will play a few more minutes than team mate Ainsworth and that's why he has got the gig in my team this far. Come round one there will be at least one of the Gold Coast boys in my side and with more midfield minutes and a cheaper price tag he has got the nod at this stage. 65-70 average is more than achievable for him.
Pickett: People seem to forget that this guy was pick number 4 in the national draft a couple of years ago, so clearly he has talent. North need a forward pocket like Pickett and I think he will be named round one. Only thing is I don't think he will score very well or consistently but I think we can expect a 60-65 average from him which isn't bad for a 123k player as it will still make some money sitting on the pine.
Bolton: He is everything you want in a small forward, he is super quick (possibly quickest at the club) and has a good game sense about him. He has impressed early and doing everything he can to push for a round one selection. Only concern is his scoring ability as small forwards usually struggle to score well. I see a 60-65 average occurring which is enough considering he is basement price.
Eddy: Probably the biggest lock in my side at the moment for a below 500k player. He was the top goal score in the SAFL last season and he is the perfect person to replace Schulz. He is 27 years of age so they have obviously recruited him to play. Again I think an average around 65-70 is possible if he does infact take Schulz's side in the team.
Smith: at 102k anyone is worth a look but this guy could be something special. Hogan and Watts have the two KPF roles downplay but the third tall is up for grabs. Pederson who is a spud and Weideman and Smith are the guys fighting for it. At 25 he could
Come in and play straight away where as Weideman is still developing. He is a real chance to play round one in my opinion and a 60-65 would be acceptable.
really like the team. love the risk you have taken on a 2 premo def/fwd line
Quote from: sammy123 on February 07, 2017, 10:23:54 AM
really like the team. love the risk you have taken on a 2 premo def/fwd line
Thanks mate! Just waiting for the JLT now.
Really like the set up stacking the midfield and setting the rucks. Early on in the season that will still get you plenty of points.
I think you need one of either Taranto or Ainsworth. I haven't really kept up with pre-season so forgive me if they're not fully fit.
My pick out of those would be Ainsworth simply because he's more likely to play round one.
It's probably the best year for a long time to stack up on rookies so hope it pays off with the ones you select.
Goodluck!
Quote from: Cookie Monster on February 07, 2017, 04:47:46 PM
Really like the set up stacking the midfield and setting the rucks. Early on in the season that will still get you plenty of points.
I think you need one of either Taranto or Ainsworth. I haven't really kept up with pre-season so forgive me if they're not fully fit.
My pick out of those would be Ainsworth simply because he's more likely to play round one.
It's probably the best year for a long time to stack up on rookies so hope it pays off with the ones you select.
Goodluck!
Cheers mate.
Taranto is no where near best 22 in my opinion but he will deffs be on my radar if he has a strong showing in the JLT.
If I could afford Ainsworth he would be there but have decided to spend more money on the defender rookies at this stage as many 123k and below forward rookies seem like getting the nod round 1. McCluggage or Bowes could change to him come round one however.
Team A
Adams, Laird, McGrath, Keefe, Scharenberg, Berry (Hibberd, Ryan)
Dangerfield,Pendlebury, Trealor, Rockliff, Sloane, Bontempelli, Fyfe, Powell-Pepper (Myers, Freeman, Graham)
Gawn, Goldstein (Strndica)
Dahlhaus, Macrae, McCluggage, Bowes, Pickett, Bolton (Smith, Eddy)
Cash: $2,000
Team B
Shaw, Adams, Laird, Keefe, Scharenberg, Berry (Hibberd, Ryan)
Dangerfield,Pendlebury, Rockliff, Bontempelli, Fyfe, McGrath, Powell-Pepper, Myers (Pickett, Freeman, Graham)
Gawn, Goldstein (Strndica)
Dahlhaus, Macrae, Gunston McCluggage, Ainsworth, Bowes (Bolton, Eddy)
Cash: $20,000
Pretty much
Trealor, Sloane and 102k forward rookie v Shaw, Gunston, Ainsworth
Regardless of player selections, I far prefer the structure of Team B. Team A leaves you little flexibility as far as your mids go, and leaves you very exposed in defence (and to a lesser extent the forwards). If a player explodes (Shiel for example) and a couple of yours underperform, you're locking in some sideways trades from the get-go.
Quote from: MC on February 13, 2017, 04:37:10 PM
Regardless of player selections, I far prefer the structure of Team B. Team A leaves you little flexibility as far as your mids go, and leaves you very exposed in defence (and to a lesser extent the forwards). If a player explodes (Shiel for example) and a couple of yours underperform, you're locking in some sideways trades from the get-go.
I agree. The team structure is much better. But for some reason I just feel as though I'll be losing 15-20 points a week from the get go. I can't really see any of the midfielders in my team under performing but it is a valid point. I guess it'll come down to how much money I have to spend on rookies.
Quote from: MC on February 13, 2017, 04:37:10 PM
Regardless of player selections, I far prefer the structure of Team B. Team A leaves you little flexibility as far as your mids go, and leaves you very exposed in defence (and to a lesser extent the forwards). If a player explodes (Shiel for example) and a couple of yours underperform, you're locking in some sideways trades from the get-go.
Yeah agree with this, think 4 rookies on the ground in defence is a bit much, need a mid-pricer or premo at D3.
Quote from: GoLions on February 13, 2017, 04:53:36 PM
Quote from: MC on February 13, 2017, 04:37:10 PM
Regardless of player selections, I far prefer the structure of Team B. Team A leaves you little flexibility as far as your mids go, and leaves you very exposed in defence (and to a lesser extent the forwards). If a player explodes (Shiel for example) and a couple of yours underperform, you're locking in some sideways trades from the get-go.
Yeah agree with this, think 4 rookies on the ground in defence is a bit much, need a mid-pricer or premo at D3.
McGrath, Louge, Hampton, Scharenberg, Keefe, Berry, Hibberd, Neman, Ryan, Stewart, Long are all chances to play so I'm not too concerned at this stage.
But again valid points.
Quote from: Money Shot on February 13, 2017, 05:01:30 PM
Quote from: GoLions on February 13, 2017, 04:53:36 PM
Quote from: MC on February 13, 2017, 04:37:10 PM
Regardless of player selections, I far prefer the structure of Team B. Team A leaves you little flexibility as far as your mids go, and leaves you very exposed in defence (and to a lesser extent the forwards). If a player explodes (Shiel for example) and a couple of yours underperform, you're locking in some sideways trades from the get-go.
Yeah agree with this, think 4 rookies on the ground in defence is a bit much, need a mid-pricer or premo at D3.
McGrath, Louge, Hampton, Scharenberg, Keefe, Berry, Hibberd, Neman, Ryan, Stewart, Long are all chances to play so I'm not too concerned at this stage.
But again valid points.
Berry won't, and don't thing Long is that close either tbh. But the thing is, how many of those guys are gonna score well? You'd want 4 of those guys averaging around 65-70 (or higher obviously :p), and from those I'd say McGrath and Logue are your only safe bets, and they've already said they'll manage McGrath into things so as not to push his body too hard.
Could pay off, but providing there are a few mid rookies, just think there is much less risk in going that extra defence premo.
Quote from: GoLions on February 13, 2017, 05:07:16 PM
Quote from: Money Shot on February 13, 2017, 05:01:30 PM
Quote from: GoLions on February 13, 2017, 04:53:36 PM
Quote from: MC on February 13, 2017, 04:37:10 PM
Regardless of player selections, I far prefer the structure of Team B. Team A leaves you little flexibility as far as your mids go, and leaves you very exposed in defence (and to a lesser extent the forwards). If a player explodes (Shiel for example) and a couple of yours underperform, you're locking in some sideways trades from the get-go.
Yeah agree with this, think 4 rookies on the ground in defence is a bit much, need a mid-pricer or premo at D3.
McGrath, Louge, Hampton, Scharenberg, Keefe, Berry, Hibberd, Neman, Ryan, Stewart, Long are all chances to play so I'm not too concerned at this stage.
But again valid points.
Berry won't, and don't thing Long is that close either tbh. But the thing is, how many of those guys are gonna score well? You'd want 4 of those guys averaging around 65-70 (or higher obviously :p), and from those I'd say McGrath and Logue are your only safe bets, and they've already said they'll manage McGrath into things so as not to push his body too hard.
Could pay off, but providing there are a few mid rookies, just think there is much less risk in going that extra defence premo.
Yeah I will watch JLT closely and that will help me decide my structure.
Team B is clearly safer but Team A has much better scoring potential in my opinion.
I also prefer the structure of team 2. Just to give yourself a bit more flexibility when the season is moving along. The rookies in defence and forward all seem much more likely to get good game time and the Premiums in Forwards and backs aren't that strong so it could go either way. Good luck
Quote from: Glenmaggie on February 13, 2017, 05:13:54 PM
I also prefer the structure of team 2. Just to give yourself a bit more flexibility when the season is moving along. The rookies in defence and forward all seem much more likely to get good game time and the Premiums in Forwards and backs aren't that strong so it could go either way. Good luck
Thanks mate!
I prefer the premiums in team 1 but the structure of team 2 is much more safe.
Deciding to go with team 1 although it is more risky.
Trealor (115) Sloane (110) Smith (65)
Shaw (110) Gunston (95) Ainsworth (70)
Losing 15 points a week from the get go isn't doesn't sound too good.
it will come down to how confident I am in the rookies after JLT I guess.
Quote from: Money Shot on February 14, 2017, 01:58:41 AM
Deciding to go with team 1 although it is more risky.
Trealor (115) Sloane (110) Smith (65)
Shaw (110) Gunston (95) Ainsworth (70)
Losing 15 points a week from the get go isn't doesn't sound too good.
it will come down to how confident I am in the rookies after JLT I guess.
I think I'm a bit more conservative in my estimates for scores, Shaw goes closer to 100 and Gunston 90 in my books, though as I said, it's more about structure, the premiums can all be swapped around for free for another 35-odd days.
Quote from: MC on February 14, 2017, 09:12:56 AM
Quote from: Money Shot on February 14, 2017, 01:58:41 AM
Deciding to go with team 1 although it is more risky.
Trealor (115) Sloane (110) Smith (65)
Shaw (110) Gunston (95) Ainsworth (70)
Losing 15 points a week from the get go isn't doesn't sound too good.
it will come down to how confident I am in the rookies after JLT I guess.
I think I'm a bit more conservative in my estimates for scores, Shaw goes closer to 100 and Gunston 90 in my books, though as I said, it's more about structure, the premiums can all be swapped around for free for another 35-odd days.
Yeah Shaw is probably a bit high but I reckon Gunston will go 95-100. Either way stacking the midfield looks like the way to go to me
If rookies weren't a problem I'd also be all over Team 1. Treloar Sloane rookie smashes the other option.
Quote from: _wato on February 16, 2017, 01:57:38 AM
If rookies weren't a problem I'd also be all over Team 1. Treloar Sloane rookie smashes the other option.
Okay good! So it's not just me thinking that hahaha
Hopefully the JLT unearths a few more on each line.
PRE JLT TEAM
Adams, Laird, McGrath, Keefe, Scharenberg, Berry (Hibberd, Ryan)
Dangerfield,Pendlebury, Trealor, Rockliff, Sloane, Bontempelli, Fyfe, Powell-Pepper (Myers, Freeman, Graham)
Gawn, Goldstein (Strndica)
Dahlhaus, Macrae, McCluggage, Bowes, Pickett, Bolton (Smith, Eddy)
Cash: $2,000
I wonder how different my starting team will be from this :)
Quote from: Money Shot on February 16, 2017, 12:47:45 PM
PRE JLT TEAM
Adams, Laird, McGrath, Keefe, Scharenberg, Berry (Hibberd, Ryan)
Dangerfield,Pendlebury, Trealor, Rockliff, Sloane, Bontempelli, Fyfe, Powell-Pepper (Myers, Freeman, Graham)
Gawn, Goldstein (Strndica)
Dahlhaus, Macrae, McCluggage, Bowes, Pickett, Bolton (Smith, Eddy)
Cash: $2,000
I wonder how different my starting team will be from this :)
Gees you're batting deep in the mids!!
Nice looking team though.
Bring on the JLT I say, let's see these rookies in action....!!
Quote from: Woppa15 on February 16, 2017, 01:04:49 PM
Quote from: Money Shot on February 16, 2017, 12:47:45 PM
PRE JLT TEAM
Adams, Laird, McGrath, Keefe, Scharenberg, Berry (Hibberd, Ryan)
Dangerfield,Pendlebury, Trealor, Rockliff, Sloane, Bontempelli, Fyfe, Powell-Pepper (Myers, Freeman, Graham)
Gawn, Goldstein (Strndica)
Dahlhaus, Macrae, McCluggage, Bowes, Pickett, Bolton (Smith, Eddy)
Cash: $2,000
I wonder how different my starting team will be from this :)
Gees you're batting deep in the mids!!
Nice looking team though.
Bring on the JLT I say, let's see these rookies in action....!!
Thanks mate! Will all come down to rookies.
Can not complain about this MS as I am looking at similar structure atm. Just deciding whether to go with Stef over Goldy to upgrade Beams to in mids,
Sound rookies although Berry is injured so watch as he may not play Rd 1.
Quote from: Ringo on February 16, 2017, 04:13:54 PM
Can not complain about this MS as I am looking at similar structure atm. Just deciding whether to go with Stef over Goldy to upgrade Beams to in mids,
Sound rookies although Berry is injured so watch as he may not play Rd 1.
Goldy could go 150 in round one versing west coast so that's why he is in my team.
Yep, Berry probably won't play round one but I can downgrade him to a rookie priced player such as Stewart if needed. Like starting the more expensive rookies at this stage in the season.
:)
Provided your final rookies are playing each week and quick earners you have a killer team. ATM I'm 1 less mid for Caddy up forward and more expensive rookies. Gazza and Hanners to your Rocky, Treloar and Bont. We have very similar thoughts and structure. Love your team mate.
;)
Quote from: Sabretooth Tigers on February 17, 2017, 06:20:18 PM
:)
Provided your final rookies are playing each week and quick earners you have a killer team. ATM I'm 1 less mid for Caddy up forward and more expensive rookies. Gazza and Hanners to your Rocky, Treloar and Bont. We have very similar thoughts and structure. Love your team mate.
;)
Thanks Mate! hanners or JPK would be my next picked mid and Caddy is really high on my watch list so obviously great minds think alike ;)
The Methamphetamen
Adams, Laird, Louge, Hampton, Vickers-Willis, Newman (Stewart, Ryan)
Danger, Pendles, Hanners, Trealor, Rocky, Bont, Fyfe, SPP (Fisher, Clarke, Graham)
Gawn, Goldy (Cameron)
Dahl, Macrae, Taranto, Schoenmakers, Black, Eddy (Pickett, Strndica)
$75,900
Just thought I would post an update after watching how the rookies went in JLT week one :)
Quote from: Money Shot on February 23, 2017, 11:48:12 AM
The Methamphetamen
Adams, Laird, Louge, Hampton, Vickers-Willis, Newman (Stewart, Ryan)
Danger, Pendles, Hanners, Trealor, Rocky, Bont, Fyfe, SPP (Fisher, Clarke, Graham)
Gawn, Goldy (Cameron)
Dahl, Macrae, Taranto, Schoenmakers, Black, Eddy (Pickett, Strndica)
$75,900
Just thought I would post an update after watching how the rookies went in JLT week one :)
If its based off JLT surely Bowes and Luggage get a gig! More likely to play?
Quote from: fasttrack13 on February 23, 2017, 03:27:37 PM
Quote from: Money Shot on February 23, 2017, 11:48:12 AM
The Methamphetamen
Adams, Laird, Louge, Hampton, Vickers-Willis, Newman (Stewart, Ryan)
Danger, Pendles, Hanners, Trealor, Rocky, Bont, Fyfe, SPP (Fisher, Clarke, Graham)
Gawn, Goldy (Cameron)
Dahl, Macrae, Taranto, Schoenmakers, Black, Eddy (Pickett, Strndica)
$75,900
Just thought I would post an update after watching how the rookies went in JLT week one :)
If its based off JLT surely Bowes and Luggage get a gig! More likely to play?
McCluggage and Taranto are both so expensive so I think I can only fit one in sadly :(
Bowes looked good also.
I think I'm just going to wait til round one and see who's named because this is way to hard looking at every rookie
JLT Week 2 Update.
Adams, Laird, Hampton, Vickers-Willis, Hibberd, Newman (Stewart, Smith)
Dangerfield, Pendlebury, Rockliff, Trealor, Bontempelli, Cripps, Fyfe, Brodie (Powell-Pepper, Barrett, Wigg)
Gawn, Goldstein (Cameron)
Dahlhaus, Macrae, Taranto, Schoenmakers, Black, Cunico (Ridley, Strndica)
$73,000
Cripps comes in as he should get two full games in.
Brodie in as he is a clearance machine and should score accordingly.
O'meara, Swallow, Roughead and Zorko all very close to coming in.
Goldstein is a concern for me as Preuss is looking very good.
Quote from: Money Shot on March 03, 2017, 01:34:48 PM
JLT Week 2 Update.
Adams, Laird, Hampton, Vickers-Willis, Hibberd, Newman (Stewart, Smith)
Dangerfield, Pendlebury, Rockliff, Trealor, Bontempelli, Cripps, Fyfe, Brodie (Powell-Pepper, Barrett, Wigg)
Gawn, Goldstein (Cameron)
Dahlhaus, Macrae, Taranto, Schoenmakers, Black, Cunico (Ridley, Strndica)
$73,000
Cripps comes in as he should get two full games in.
Brodie in as he is a clearance machine and should score accordingly.
O'meara, Swallow, Roughead and Zorko all very close to coming in.
Goldstein is a concern for me as Preuss is looking very good.
Every one of your premiums are decent selections although I prefer Hanners over all of Rocky, Bont and Cripps.
I'm not a fan of relying on 4 on-field rookies in both defence and up forward. Taranto should score well enough if he even gets named round 1 but the rest of your fwd rookies have poor scoring potential imo I think that the midfield rookies you have all have good scoring potential but you will only be able to access one of their scores each week.
Did Beams not show enough last night to be a consideration for your team?
Quote from: ben_020285 on March 03, 2017, 02:39:46 PM
Quote from: Money Shot on March 03, 2017, 01:34:48 PM
JLT Week 2 Update.
Adams, Laird, Hampton, Vickers-Willis, Hibberd, Newman (Stewart, Smith)
Dangerfield, Pendlebury, Rockliff, Trealor, Bontempelli, Cripps, Fyfe, Brodie (Powell-Pepper, Barrett, Wigg)
Gawn, Goldstein (Cameron)
Dahlhaus, Macrae, Taranto, Schoenmakers, Black, Cunico (Ridley, Strndica)
$73,000
Cripps comes in as he should get two full games in.
Brodie in as he is a clearance machine and should score accordingly.
O'meara, Swallow, Roughead and Zorko all very close to coming in.
Goldstein is a concern for me as Preuss is looking very good.
Every one of your premiums are decent selections although I prefer Hanners over all of Rocky, Bont and Cripps.
I'm not a fan of relying on 4 on-field rookies in both defence and up forward. Taranto should score well enough if he even gets named round 1 but the rest of your fwd rookies have poor scoring potential imo I think that the midfield rookies you have all have good scoring potential but you will only be able to access one of their scores each week.
Did Beams not show enough last night to be a consideration for your team?
Agree think you need to unload a couple of mid premos and get some value in like Beams Swallow or O'Meara and spend it on your FWD's and backs especially your FWD's can't see that lineup working ;)
Not much I can add to comments above. Very Heavy in mids at risk of fwds and def. If comfortable with it then ok as low priced players you have picked are sound and should play games.
Beams, O'meara, Swallow, Roughead are all under consideration.
JLT Week 2 Update.
Adams, Laird, Hampton, Vickers-Willis, Hibberd, Newman (Stewart, Smith)
Dangerfield, Pendlebury, Rockliff, Trealor, Bontempelli, Cripps, Fyfe, Brodie (Powell-Pepper, Barrett, Wigg)
Gawn, Goldstein (Cameron)
Dahlhaus, Macrae, Taranto, Schoenmakers, Black, Cunico (Ridley, Strndica)
$73,000
Cripps comes in as he should get two full games in.
Brodie/Barrett in as they are clearance machines and should score accordingly.
O'meara, Swallow, Roughead and Beams almost going in.
Goldstein is a concern for me as Preuss is looking very good.
Great looking team....
Do you think Barrett will be elevated?
Hopefully rookies come up for you so you can roll with this setup, risk v reward and could pay off well for ya, you have a bigger set than me anyway! Good luck horse
i like it and deffs different but I think you're gonna regret not choosing ANY of the mid pricers.
Post JLT update.
Adams, Laird, Hampton, Otten, Vickers-Willis, Hibberd (Melican, Stewart)
Dangerfield, Pendlebury, Hannerbury, Rockliff, Trealor, Bontempelli, Fyfe, Powell-Pepper (Barrett, Atley, Fox)
Gawn, Goldstein (Cameron)
Dahlhaus, Macrae, Taranto, Schoenmakers, Butler, Houston (Eddy, Strndica)
$150,000
A lot of wishful thinking here with rookies.
Gawn and Goldy will be out of my team if they have Spencer and Preuss lining up with them.
Have 150K left over which will be used to get Marchbank in if the back rookies don't line up. (Melican is looking unlikely)
Have a 7 premo midfield which I love but I may have to downgrade and get Beams/O'meara/Swallow in.
Thanks guys :)
Interesting you've gone with Rockliff and yet haven't selected beams... For me, scoring capabilities are dead even and beams is 170k cheaper. Can't split their injury record either.
You've gone 13 of those 100% Keepers, really can't see the rookies lining up rd1 so i'm just wondering what your backup plan is?
Obviously with Kelly, Watson, Beams, Murphy, Jaeger you'd drop a couple of the mid's to them and you'd probably want to move one of those premium rucks to nankervis/sandi/hickey/martin. Thats probably 530k on top of the 150 you have already left. Would that be about right?
Yeah this is the type of team we all want haha I count 6 rookies who either won't line up round one or will have shower JS if they are named
Quote from: Gigantor on March 14, 2017, 01:07:37 PM
Yeah this is the type of team we all want haha I count 6 rookies who either won't line up round one or will have shower JS if they are named
Quote from: fasttrack13 on March 14, 2017, 12:56:56 PM
Interesting you've gone with Rockliff and yet haven't selected beams... For me, scoring capabilities are dead even and beams is 170k cheaper. Can't split their injury record either.
You've gone 13 of those 100% Keepers, really can't see the rookies lining up rd1 so i'm just wondering what your backup plan is?
Obviously with Kelly, Watson, Beams, Murphy, Jaeger you'd drop a couple of the mid's to them and you'd probably want to move one of those premium rucks to nankervis/sandi/hickey/martin. Thats probably 530k on top of the 150 you have already left. Would that be about right?
This is just wishful thinking really hahaha.
Rockliff/Hannerbury/Atley to Beams/O'meara/Swallow
Gawn/Goldy to Martin/Sandi
Schoenmakers to Nankervis
Melican to Marchbank
Something like that if/when the rookies don't pop up.
Quote from: Money Shot on March 14, 2017, 01:10:52 PM
Quote from: Gigantor on March 14, 2017, 01:07:37 PM
Yeah this is the type of team we all want haha I count 6 rookies who either won't line up round one or will have shower JS if they are named
Quote from: fasttrack13 on March 14, 2017, 12:56:56 PM
Interesting you've gone with Rockliff and yet haven't selected beams... For me, scoring capabilities are dead even and beams is 170k cheaper. Can't split their injury record either.
You've gone 13 of those 100% Keepers, really can't see the rookies lining up rd1 so i'm just wondering what your backup plan is?
Obviously with Kelly, Watson, Beams, Murphy, Jaeger you'd drop a couple of the mid's to them and you'd probably want to move one of those premium rucks to nankervis/sandi/hickey/martin. Thats probably 530k on top of the 150 you have already left. Would that be about right?
This is just wishful thinking really hahaha.
Rockliff/Hannerbury/Atley to Beams/O'meara/Swallow
Gawn/Goldy to Martin/Sandi
Schoenmakers to Nankervis
Melican to Marchbank
Something like that if/when the rookies don't pop up.
I like all those changes, Martin could be an inspired choice if he's sole ruck.
Quote from: Bully on March 14, 2017, 01:12:52 PM
Quote from: Money Shot on March 14, 2017, 01:10:52 PM
Quote from: Gigantor on March 14, 2017, 01:07:37 PM
Yeah this is the type of team we all want haha I count 6 rookies who either won't line up round one or will have shower JS if they are named
Quote from: fasttrack13 on March 14, 2017, 12:56:56 PM
Interesting you've gone with Rockliff and yet haven't selected beams... For me, scoring capabilities are dead even and beams is 170k cheaper. Can't split their injury record either.
You've gone 13 of those 100% Keepers, really can't see the rookies lining up rd1 so i'm just wondering what your backup plan is?
Obviously with Kelly, Watson, Beams, Murphy, Jaeger you'd drop a couple of the mid's to them and you'd probably want to move one of those premium rucks to nankervis/sandi/hickey/martin. Thats probably 530k on top of the 150 you have already left. Would that be about right?
This is just wishful thinking really hahaha.
Rockliff/Hannerbury/Atley to Beams/O'meara/Swallow
Gawn/Goldy to Martin/Sandi
Schoenmakers to Nankervis
Melican to Marchbank
Something like that if/when the rookies don't pop up.
I like all those changes, Martin could be an inspired choice if he's sole ruck.
Yeah so I do have a back up plan but obviously I'm hoping for the best!
I like that you're hoping for best case scenario but that team is just too much wishful thinking I reckon haha. The back up plan seems solid enough that you shouldn't have too many issues.
Quote from: Nige on March 14, 2017, 02:36:28 PM
I like that you're hoping for best case scenario but that team is just too much wishful thinking I reckon haha. The back up plan seems solid enough that you shouldn't have too many issues.
Yeah I'll do a "proper" team later. Hahaha
Dream Team
Adams, Laird, Hampton, Vickers-Willis, Hibberd, Otten (Stewart, Melican)
Dangerfield, Pendlebury, Hannerbury, Rockliff, Trealor, Bontempelli, Fyfe, Powell-Pepper (Barrett, Atley, Fox)
Gawn, Goldstein (Cameron)
Dahlhaus, Macrae, Taranto, Schoenmakers, Butler, Houston (Eddy, Strndica)
$150,000
Realistic Team
Shaw, Adams, Laird, Marchbank, Hampton, Otten (Vickers-Willis, Stewart)
Dangerfield, Pendlebury, Trealor, Bontempelli, Fyfe, Beams, O'meara, Swallow (Powell-Pepper, Barret, Fox)
Martin, Sandilands (Cameron)
Dahlhaus, Macrae, Nankervis, Hoskin-Elliot, Taranto, Houston (Eddy, Strndica)
$20,000
Do you reckon Fox is a chance?
Quote from: Bully on March 14, 2017, 04:00:29 PM
Do you reckon Fox is a chance?
Not really hahaha
Played well over the three games though so he has to be some kind of chance.
Balanced team.
Shaw, Adams, Laird, Marchbank, Hampton, Otten (Vickers-Willis, Stewart)
Dangerfield, Pendlebury, Trealor, Bontempelli, Fyfe, Beams, O'meara, Swallow (Powell-Pepper, Barret, Fox)
Nankervis, Sandilands (Cameron)
Dahlhaus, Franklin, Macrae, Hoskin-Elliot, Taranto, Houston (Eddy, Strndica)
$1,000
I agree that my side was too unrealistic and looking at it structurally I lose two certain premiums but i think that 2 out of Beams, O'meara, Swallow, Nankervis and Sandilands could become one anyways.
There's a lot more certainty about this side which I really like :)
Thanks for the help guys :)
love it, though no ruck cover for Sandilands worries me
Like the team, However your 3 defender premo's all share the same bye. Will probably be an issue come round 13
If Fox doesn't make the cut you may need to revise. I'd be going SPP down to Parfitt, Barrett to Hibberd, Fox to Pickett. (I think you may just scrape in).
Love this team. Just the rucks are a worry but if you can handle the stress do it!
Quote from: tkringle on March 14, 2017, 08:19:16 PM
love it, though no ruck cover for Sandilands worries me
Quote from: Carn on March 14, 2017, 10:05:52 PM
Love this team. Just the rucks are a worry but if you can handle the stress do it!
I'm not too concerned anymore as Boyd, Vardy and Witts should all play consistently and if he gets injured I can just trade him to whoever is performing the best out of them.
All preseason I've been all over Gawn and Goldy but I just can't see them being as elite as they were last season.
Quote from: SharkBait on March 14, 2017, 08:59:03 PM
Like the team, However your 3 defender premo's all share the same bye. Will probably be an issue come round 13
I think that most people will have all three by that stage so I'm not too concerned. Is something to think about though.
Quote from: Bully on March 14, 2017, 09:59:30 PM
If Fox doesn't make the cut you may need to revise. I'd be going SPP down to Parfitt, Barrett to Hibberd, Fox to Pickett. (I think you may just scrape in).
Yeah, Fox probably won't play. Franklin to Greene/Caddy is something I would consider as well.
Round 1 team.
Shaw, Adams, Laird, Marchbank, Hampton, Otten (Stewart, Smith)
Danger, Pendles (C), Trealor, Bont, Fyfe, Beams, O'meara, Swallow (Powell-Pepper, Barrett, Pickett)
Nankervis, Sandilands (Strnadica)
Dahlhaus, Macrae, Caddy, Hoskin-Elliot, Taranto, Butler (Parfitt, Eddy)
Score: 2267
Rank: 4841
This week I will put the VC on Trealor into captain Danger. Just have a gut feeling that Trealor will kill it this weekend.
With Smith injured I will place the emergency on Otten and if he scores well enough I will put Smith on the field and take Stewart off.
What do you guys think is a score worth taking???
The only decision I have now is who to field out of Butler, Parfitt and Eddy.
I have a feeling that Eddy could kick a bag against Freo and I'm tempted to start him...
what are your guys thoughts? :o
I think Parfitt may do the same against the Roos.
Etihad under the roof, he could tear it up.
I would take 70 from Otten.
Nice team btw. We have the same rucks, however I went Preuss at R3.
Good luck!
Quote from: HoleMeal on March 28, 2017, 09:01:15 PM
I think Parfitt may do the same against the Roos.
Etihad under the roof, he could tear it up.
I would take 70 from Otten.
Nice team btw. We have the same rucks, however I went Preuss at R3.
Good luck!
Yeah if Otten goes in that 60-70 range I don't know what I'll do. Think I will take the risk with Stewart unless Otten goes 70+ like you suggested.
The only reason I'm not sold on Parfitt is because he is a small forward type player and even the best in the business only average 80 or so where as a key forward is much more likely to kick a bag in my opinion.
Thanks mate :)
I wouldn't jump off the otten bandwagon just yet. I belive that he will pull a big score but if he produces another bad score there something to think about.
Round 2 team.
Shaw, Adams, Laird, Marchbank, Hampton, Otten (Stewart, Smith)
Danger (C), Pendles, Trealor, Bont, Fyfe, Beams, O'meara, Swallow (Powell-Pepper, Barrett, Pickett)
Nankervis, Sandilands (Strnadica)
Dahlhaus, Macrae, Caddy, Hoskin-Elliot, Taranto, Parfitt (Butler, Eddy)
Score: 2272
Rank: 1787
Houston will come in for Pickett this week.
The trade I need your guys thoughts on is Hannan (assuming he is named) for Taranto. Hannan has a breakeven of -53 compared to Taranto with a breakeven of 4.
What are your guys thoughts?
Quote from: Money Shot on April 03, 2017, 10:17:37 AM
Round 2 team.
Shaw, Adams, Laird, Marchbank, Hampton, Otten (Stewart, Smith)
Danger, Pendles (C), Trealor, Bont, Fyfe, Beams, O'meara, Swallow (Powell-Pepper, Barrett, Pickett)
Nankervis, Sandilands (Strnadica)
Dahlhaus, Macrae, Caddy, Hoskin-Elliot, Taranto, Butler (Parfitt, Eddy)
Score: 2272
Rank: 1787
Houston will come in for Pickett this week.
The trade I need your guys thoughts on is Hannan (assuming he is named) for Taranto. Hannan has a breakeven of -53 compared to Taranto with a breakeven of 4.
What are your guys thoughts?
Maybe Taranto -> Turner?
I think Hannan will be dropped soon as Kent will come in.
Turner also has a break even of -28 and pretty good job security
Quote from: EazyMoney on April 03, 2017, 10:20:39 AM
Quote from: Money Shot on April 03, 2017, 10:17:37 AM
Round 2 team.
Shaw, Adams, Laird, Marchbank, Hampton, Otten (Stewart, Smith)
Danger, Pendles (C), Trealor, Bont, Fyfe, Beams, O'meara, Swallow (Powell-Pepper, Barrett, Pickett)
Nankervis, Sandilands (Strnadica)
Dahlhaus, Macrae, Caddy, Hoskin-Elliot, Taranto, Butler (Parfitt, Eddy)
Score: 2272
Rank: 1787
Houston will come in for Pickett this week.
The trade I need your guys thoughts on is Hannan (assuming he is named) for Taranto. Hannan has a breakeven of -53 compared to Taranto with a breakeven of 4.
What are your guys thoughts?
Maybe Taranto -> Turner?
I think Hannan will be dropped soon as Kent will come in.
Turner also has a break even of -28 and pretty good job security
Yeah, if people talk me out of Hannan I will look very closely at Turner or even Ainsworth/Knight
Taranto looked better on the weekend and looks to have very good JS.
Ainsworth and Turner also look to have similar JS but Ainsworth likely to be the better scorer.
If I had Taranto i'd probably stick with him.
Quote from: AaronKirk on April 03, 2017, 11:02:15 AM
Taranto looked better on the weekend and looks to have very good JS.
Ainsworth and Turner also look to have similar JS but Ainsworth likely to be the better scorer.
If I had Taranto i'd probably stick with him.
Okay cheers.
im trading taranto this week. but thats cause i didn't start with WHE
Quote from: sammy123 on April 03, 2017, 01:03:39 PM
im trading taranto this week. but thats cause i didn't start with WHE
Although at the moment I'm still trying to go for overall rank and think points/money making ability is more important than saving trades for finals I think I'm going to keep Taranto as he's breakeven isn't that much worse than Turner/Ainsoworth/Knight and Hannan could get dropped in a week or two.
Houston in for Pickett is locked and loaded and that's it for this round.