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Title: RD's 2017 Team Thread
Post by: RaisyDaisy on December 06, 2016, 11:39:10 PM
Not sure why I am bothering so far out lol but I couldn't help myself  :P

If anything, it's always good to look back at this come Round 1 to see how different my Rd1 side actually looks to this  ;D

DEF: Heath Shaw, Tom McDonald, Hamish Hartlett, Andy McGrath, Lachlan Keeffe, Jarrod Berry (Luke Ryan, Tom Stewart)

MID: Patrick Dangerfield, Scott Pendlebury, Josh Kennedy, Marcus Bontempelli, Nat Fyfe, Dayne Beams, David Swallow, David Myers (Sam Powell-Pepper, Jarrod Pickett, Jack Graham)

RUC: Max Gawn, Aaron Sandilands (Darcy Cameron)

FWD: Luke Dahlhaus, Jack Macrae, Paddy Ryder, Jarryd Roughead, Aaron Black, Willem Drew (Shai Bolton, Brett Eddy)

$35,100

Taylor Adams, Todd Goldstein and GAJ under consideration too, but I like the look of this for now. McGrath the only expensive rookie, but his JS and ability allows me to start light down back
Title: Re: RD's 2017 Team Thread
Post by: LordSneeze on December 06, 2016, 11:59:34 PM
Super stong mids, but really risky on all other lines.
Title: Re: RD's 2017 Team Thread
Post by: RaisyDaisy on December 07, 2016, 12:06:20 AM
Is it really risky though?

I think the likes of Paddy and Rough appear risky because they have missed footy and are cheap, but they didn't miss through injury and are proven. Besides Dahl and Macrae, I don't like any of the other forwards as starters so happy to go with the value of Ryder and Rough

Sandi came back after missing a year to average 108, and Ryder is cover

Shaw and TMac are rock solid, so yes I would agree the backline is light, but the other lines are fine IMO

I can see how it "looks" risky, but when you think about it I don't think it actually is

Title: Re: RD's 2017 Team Thread
Post by: GoLions on December 07, 2016, 12:19:39 AM
Quote from: LordSneeze on December 06, 2016, 11:59:34 PM
Super stong mids, but really risky on all other lines.
If anything, I'd say the mids are the riskiest. Doesn't even have the goat. Smh.
Title: Re: RD's 2017 Team Thread
Post by: LordSneeze on December 07, 2016, 10:22:11 AM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on December 07, 2016, 12:06:20 AM
Is it really risky though?

I think the likes of Paddy and Rough appear risky because they have missed footy and are cheap, but they didn't miss through injury and are proven. Besides Dahl and Macrae, I don't like any of the other forwards as starters so happy to go with the value of Ryder and Rough

Sandi came back after missing a year to average 108, and Ryder is cover

Shaw and TMac are rock solid, so yes I would agree the backline is light, but the other lines are fine IMO

I can see how it "looks" risky, but when you think about it I don't think it actually is

I just see a lot of risks in the team.
Macca I see as a risk (He burnt me really badly last year), Hartlett I don't rate as a premium defender + 3 rookies.
Mids I can't fault on the players you picked, however by running so deep it limits the ability to bring in the premiums who perform above expectations.
Sandi is a risk, I understand you picked Ryder as a BU, but I really dislike this option. Ive looked into Ryder and do not see him as a good pick by himself in either position so I don't see the value in picking himt o cover both. If he was going to be a top 10-15 forward then id say go for it, but im thinking 30ish is more like it.
Roughhead obviously is coming back and well under-priced, if he starts R1 he should be a lock in every team.
Title: Re: RD's 2017 Team Thread
Post by: frenzy on February 12, 2017, 11:26:59 PM
pretty much nailed it back at the start of December RD, welldone.

Only change I see is Black out. He couldn't get a kick in the VFL last year.
Title: Re: RD's 2017 Team Thread
Post by: RaisyDaisy on February 27, 2017, 10:29:14 PM
(http://i.imgur.com/Zj1qSyj.png)

The structure is what I am more or less set on - just a few players I am still 50/50 on

DEF
Going with 2 guns then rookies. At this stage the two guns will be 2 of Doch/Simmo/Shaw/Laird (I have the 2 most expensive as place holders) and then 2 x 160k options then 4 cheap options. Again, the 160k options give me wiggle room if need be

MID
Had Treloar at M7 but dropped him down to JOM so I could bolster my forward line because I don't think 3 prem forwards is enough with the lack of fwd rookies seemingly not available. Also, I figure JOM + Heeney is better than Treloar + 123k fwd. Also gives me time to see who the best 2 mids will be that I don't have, as opposed to committing 7/8 spots preseason

FWD
Dahl and Rough are locked. Heeney close to a lock but Ryder I am 50/50 about. I figure this year we only need our fwds to be capable of 90+ as I can't see more than 3 averaging over 100, so for that reason I think Dahl and Rough are good to go 90+ and Heeney I can see quite easily increasing his average from 80 to 90+

That being said I also don't think it's worth starting anymore 500k options other than Dahl because IMO they are all priced at their max, where as your Heeney/Miller/Wingard/Higgins etc should be able to match them at a cheaper price

Ryder vs Nank + 50k is something I am still mulling over

Would love to hear peoples thoughts and suggestions

Thanks :)
Title: Re: RD's 2017 Team Thread
Post by: pendles93 on February 27, 2017, 10:39:37 PM
Love the structure. Im batting deep in the guts as well. As a pie man I do find shaz quite a risky d3 though but could work. Defenders seem the most trustworthy rookies.

Absolutely love every POD premo picked.

Strong mail Begley will start the season in the VFL.
Title: Re: RD's 2017 Team Thread
Post by: Bully on February 27, 2017, 10:43:51 PM
Nice looking team.
Title: Re: RD's 2017 Team Thread
Post by: eaglesman on February 27, 2017, 11:03:58 PM
Interesting team.
I just looked at mine and was uber excited about having 4 600k mids so you having 5 is gold haha.

I am not sure about having only 2 prem defenders myself. Obviously scharenberg is a place holder but I would be looking elsewhere as I don't see how he will play.

I currently rolling with sandi and no cover. If I was to have cover it would be nank. If sandi goes down early I'm going to trade my way out of it at this point unless Ryder and nank command a spot over the coming weeks. If you go nank maybe you could use that money to get a more expensive defender rookie.

Title: Re: RD's 2017 Team Thread
Post by: RaisyDaisy on February 27, 2017, 11:19:38 PM
Quote from: pendles93 on February 27, 2017, 10:39:37 PM
Love the structure. Im batting deep in the guts as well. As a pie man I do find shaz quite a risky d3 though but could work. Defenders seem the most trustworthy rookies.

Absolutely love every POD premo picked.

Strong mail Begley will start the season in the VFL.

Thanks man. Yeah Scharenberg is just a placeholder at this point, like most of the rookies are. He is there more so because of the funds it allocates

As for Begley, again just a place holder. I'm confident Black at F5 should be fine, so really just need 3 rookies to fill out F6-8. I can quite easily downgrade a Simmo-Laird or Scharenberg to 117k to get the funds to bring in a Turner/Bowes if needed

Quote from: Bully on February 27, 2017, 10:43:51 PM
Nice looking team.

Cheers Bully :)

Quote from: eaglesman on February 27, 2017, 11:03:58 PM
Interesting team.
I just looked at mine and was uber excited about having 4 600k mids so you having 5 is gold haha.

I am not sure about having only 2 prem defenders myself. Obviously scharenberg is a place holder but I would be looking elsewhere as I don't see how he will play.

I currently rolling with sandi and no cover. If I was to have cover it would be nank. If sandi goes down early I'm going to trade my way out of it at this point unless Ryder and nank command a spot over the coming weeks. If you go nank maybe you could use that money to get a more expensive defender rookie.

Yeah as mentioned if Schaz doesn't get up then McGrath, Keeffe, Otten, Hibberd, Smith etc are options. I'm confident I can get away with 2 defenders this year

Sandi without cover is ballsy and something I've considered too because I just don't feel great about Ryder at all. Nank I quite like, but he would need to be upgraded eventually unless he can go 90+ which I guess isn't completely out of he question

Dunno, I'm very comfortable with my def, mids and ruc. Just my fwd line I am not settled or comfortable with completely just yet

As for the 600k+ mids, up until yesterday I had Treloar in too so had 6 600k players haha. Can still do it, but just decided to do Treloar down to JOM to bring in Heeney to bolster fwds as 3 fwds is too light I think due to lack of rookies
Title: Re: RD's 2017 Team Thread
Post by: eaglesman on February 27, 2017, 11:31:15 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on February 27, 2017, 11:19:38 PM
Quote from: pendles93 on February 27, 2017, 10:39:37 PM
Love the structure. Im batting deep in the guts as well. As a pie man I do find shaz quite a risky d3 though but could work. Defenders seem the most trustworthy rookies.

Absolutely love every POD premo picked.

Strong mail Begley will start the season in the VFL.

Thanks man. Yeah Scharenberg is just a placeholder at this point, like most of the rookies are. He is there more so because of the funds it allocates

As for Begley, again just a place holder. I'm confident Black at F5 should be fine, so really just need 3 rookies to fill out F6-8. I can quite easily downgrade a Simmo-Laird or Scharenberg to 117k to get the funds to bring in a Turner/Bowes if needed

Quote from: Bully on February 27, 2017, 10:43:51 PM
Nice looking team.

Cheers Bully :)

Quote from: eaglesman on February 27, 2017, 11:03:58 PM
Interesting team.
I just looked at mine and was uber excited about having 4 600k mids so you having 5 is gold haha.

I am not sure about having only 2 prem defenders myself. Obviously scharenberg is a place holder but I would be looking elsewhere as I don't see how he will play.

I currently rolling with sandi and no cover. If I was to have cover it would be nank. If sandi goes down early I'm going to trade my way out of it at this point unless Ryder and nank command a spot over the coming weeks. If you go nank maybe you could use that money to get a more expensive defender rookie.

Yeah as mentioned if Schaz doesn't get up then McGrath, Keeffe, Otten, Hibberd, Smith etc are options. I'm confident I can get away with 2 defenders this year

Sandi without cover is ballsy and something I've considered too because I just don't feel great about Ryder at all. Nank I quite like, but he would need to be upgraded eventually unless he can go 90+ which I guess isn't completely out of he question

Dunno, I'm very comfortable with my def, mids and ruc. Just my fwd line I am not settled or comfortable with completely just yet

As for the 600k+ mids, up until yesterday I had Treloar in too so had 6 600k players haha. Can still do it, but just decided to do Treloar down to JOM to bring in Heeney to bolster fwds as 3 fwds is too light I think due to lack of rookies

If Otten is named he is definitely in. if I was Adelaide coach I would definitely be picking him. Don't understand why there is a doubt on him(minus injury)
Title: Re: RD's 2017 Team Thread
Post by: Mat0369 on February 28, 2017, 12:22:04 AM
My first team had Simmo/Doc/Adams as my 3 defenders so I'm a fan of the two you currently have in. I've also gone 2 premium defenders and loaded up on rookies. Traditionally you can get away with less in terms of premiums down back because it is the most inconsistent line. It also tends to give you the most in terms of rookies. I like the set up.

Midfield is similar to mine. Only difference in structure is I have Hanners, Sloane and Murphy to your JPK, Rocky and Swallow.

I have gone Goldy and Sandi to your Gawn and Sandi so a similar set up there. I'm looking at playing rookies in the ruck spot though. One of Preuss, Cameron and Witts if they are named round 1 will slide in.

I think there are a ton of forward rookies, you might just have to fork out cash. This is one line I can see a ton of guys getting named for round 1. I'm not a fan of the Ryder pick, I'd rather go with no coverage then take Ryder/Nank. Heeney is a good breakout contender.
Title: Re: RD's 2017 Team Thread
Post by: Ringo on February 28, 2017, 10:32:27 AM
As an eagles man RD have you considered Lycett as a fwd and ruck cover. His end of year apart from 1 game very encouraging and with Nat out surely he will maintain those averages and give you the 90+

Structure similar to mine only issue I am grappling with is whether to have a mid pricer Roughie at F4 or Murphy at D3.

My 2 prem defenders Laird and Rance Rance is on watch with his injury.

Only difference in mids atm is I have Zorko over Rocky. with different bench have Bowes as one going with my strategy of having an expensive rookie or 2 on each line.
Title: Re: RD's 2017 Team Thread
Post by: RaisyDaisy on February 28, 2017, 01:22:06 PM
Cheers Mat and Ringo - gutsy to start a rookie ruck Mat, and Lycett I just don't think would be good enough for F6 - should push 90, and the cover is obviously very good but I want to aim higher

Now with Beams getting the captaincy gig that has restored my faith in his health - might need to look at getting him back in
Title: Re: RD's 2017 Team Thread
Post by: Ringo on February 28, 2017, 01:52:04 PM
Does this help as well from Beams press conference after being announced as Captain.

"DB: I've done everything asked of me and everything possible to make sure I'm playing every game this year. I'm confident I can do that."
Title: Re: RD's 2017 Team Thread
Post by: Mat0369 on February 28, 2017, 01:57:30 PM
I just think if you are going to grab Ryder it makes sense to grab him after his bye. If there is a playing rookie it makes it a no brainer. His scores have traditionally been a roller coaster, his bye is terrible with you having to field 22 the week he is out and he won't play 22 games anyway.

Beams is interesting, I'm still not sold on the knee, but his scoring potential is ridiculous for his price.
Title: Re: RD's 2017 Team Thread
Post by: pendles93 on February 28, 2017, 02:25:24 PM
If he can stay fit for the first half of the season even, Avg 110-115 which is possible no doubt. I'd be happy to side swap him if he gets injured at his price of 600k or thereabouts to a Selwood who has had his inevitable run of 3 85s in a row and can possible make a profit.
Title: Re: RD's 2017 Team Thread
Post by: RaisyDaisy on February 28, 2017, 02:39:30 PM
Yeah you boys are right

My gut just doesn't love the idea of Ryder, and with Freo having so many games on the western side of the country early it might be worth going with no cover, and then just dealing with it if it happens

Thanks for that quote too Ringo - I think I have to bring him in now
Title: Re: RD's 2017 Team Thread
Post by: RaisyDaisy on March 05, 2017, 12:34:05 PM
Just playing around with options at the moment.

Need to bring Beams in, and I think due to the lack of mid and fwd rookies I have to go deep there and light down back

At this point, I'm liking this structure a lot however the only areas I am still open to changing are:

Laird & Mills: Might be too weak so am open to making changes to upgrade to Doch/Simmo/Shaw. Keeffe is just a place holder, but 2 prem 6 rookies is the structure

Macrae: Dahl, Heeney and Rough are locked for me, and not having ruck cover might be a little risky. Either way, if I need to bring in ruck cover or upgrade my defenders I think Macrae is the one to go. Macrae down to Ryder/Nank/Steele etc gets me the funds to improve def prems

Feel like mids, rucks and fwds are strong enough and because of this my first upgrades (Round 5-6 onwards) will be bringing in a 3rd and 4th defender, so I only really need this weak backline to hold the fort for the first 6 weeks which I think it can, while the other 3 lines should be more than solid enough to hold things down while I upgrade the backs first

(http://i.imgur.com/8DDkHxs.png)

Title: Re: RD's 2017 Team Thread
Post by: Gandalf123 on March 05, 2017, 01:42:52 PM
Like it RD, yeah only thing is ruck cover but I'm finding it hard to bring myself to do it also, don't like the options too much!
Title: Re: RD's 2017 Team Thread
Post by: shaker on March 05, 2017, 01:54:52 PM
Forget ruck cover Sandi is either going to fail early which for me is a double trade to rectify or he is going to make some cash if so all good , would like to see another gun in the backs maybe lose a gun in the mids for O'Meara but good set up
Title: Re: RD's 2017 Team Thread
Post by: Ringo on March 05, 2017, 04:20:59 PM
Nice Team RD - At the moment rookies seem to be all over the shop with chances of playing so we just need to wait and see who plays from Rd 1.
If all do not eventuate you have a number of options to rectify though. Prem Mid down to O'Meara will help.
Seriously considering going without Ruck Back up myself to get best forward line.
Title: Re: RD's 2017 Team Thread
Post by: enzedder on March 05, 2017, 06:15:11 PM
I really don't like the fwd ruck cover choices at all. It's part of the reason I haven't entertained thoughts of having Sandi but as Shaker says you can always double trade. Sandi is going to give people a leg up one way or the other. Seems the biggest decision to make this year... or perhaps that's just me.
Title: Re: RD's 2017 Team Thread
Post by: RaisyDaisy on March 05, 2017, 06:33:32 PM
Thanks for the input guys

Yeah I just don't like the ruck cover options

We always use a few corrective trades early on if things don't go to plan so I'll do that if need be

Pretty settled on the structure, just need to decide who I want in D1/D2/D3 and F2

Title: Re: RD's 2017 Team Thread
Post by: Mat0369 on March 05, 2017, 07:47:53 PM
I prefer the setup without going for a ruck in the forward line taking up a spot.

Nank gives me Zac Smith/Bellcho vibes. I still think if I was to pick cover Ryder isn't a terrible option, but I'd grab him after his bye. He has never been consistent and it gives him some time to get into the swing of things again. You could probably get him for 350k around that point after he puts in a stinker.

If a rookie starts that seems to be the go otherwise just roll the dice with Sandi. It doesn't feel like a wasted spot in your team that way.
Title: Re: RD's 2017 Team Thread
Post by: crowls on March 05, 2017, 09:50:46 PM
Good looking team RD.    Can understand going light in backs.   


Mat, do not get the same vibes from Nank as Bellcho.   See him as a cheaper Ryder option with capability of 90+ average.  I see him as outscoring all fwds around that 400 mark.   
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Title: Re: RD's 2017 Team Thread
Post by: Mat0369 on March 05, 2017, 10:07:47 PM
Quote from: crowls on March 05, 2017, 09:50:46 PM
Mat, do not get the same vibes from Nank as Bellcho.   See him as a cheaper Ryder option with capability of 90+ average.  I see him as outscoring all fwds around that 400 mark.   

Zac Smith is probably a better comparison. Everyone was frothing over him when he went to the Cats. He was going to be the number 1 ruck and had all this potential, killed it in the NAB and reverted to his true form. Bellcho couldn't get on the park but everyone was looking at his HTA numbers which were huge and hence they brought him in for forward cover. There are a couple of these guys every year, people get sucked in and regret it by round 5 and can't trade them out because they have issues elsewhere.
Title: Re: RD's 2017 Team Thread
Post by: crowls on March 05, 2017, 10:18:36 PM
Quote from: Mat0369 on March 05, 2017, 10:07:47 PM
Quote from: crowls on March 05, 2017, 09:50:46 PM
Mat, do not get the same vibes from Nank as Bellcho.   See him as a cheaper Ryder option with capability of 90+ average.  I see him as outscoring all fwds around that 400 mark.   

Zac Smith is probably a better comparison. Everyone was frothing over him when he went to the Cats. He was going to be the number 1 ruck and had all this potential, killed it in the NAB and reverted to his true form. Bellcho couldn't get on the park but everyone was looking at his HTA numbers which were huge and hence they brought him in for forward cover. There are a couple of these guys every year, people get sucked in and regret it by round 5 and can't trade them out because they have issues elsewhere.
Valid points.  Perhaps lowest risk option is no cover for Sandi, trade someone in if needed.     Reminds me of how they generate alpha and beta in stockmarkets.   Average out risk by adding risk.   Issue is where do you spend the extra cash. 
Title: Re: RD's 2017 Team Thread
Post by: Mat0369 on March 05, 2017, 10:25:54 PM
Quote from: crowls on March 05, 2017, 10:18:36 PM
Valid points.  Perhaps lowest risk option is no cover for Sandi, trade someone in if needed.     Reminds me of how they generate alpha and beta in stockmarkets.   Average out risk by adding risk.   Issue is where do you spend the extra cash.

I'd go with the midfield like RD has or spread the cash to turn some questionable selections into bona fide premiums.
Title: Re: RD's 2017 Team Thread
Post by: RaisyDaisy on March 11, 2017, 10:05:38 AM
OK, so now that we're getting closer to the season starting I think we are starting to get a better picture of which rookies will actually have a chance of playing Round 1.

I don't think there will be as much defender rookies as we had once hoped, so Marchbank comes in to allow me to maintain my structure. I've also gone with Taranto and Turner because I think Taranto has done more than expected and has to be named, while Turner has the JS. Good cash allocation too so can go down if needed

I've made a conscious effort of picking rookies that I think will actually play and make this team realistic. Otten might not get up, but I think I could find a bench replacement. Ditto Cameron, could get Black etc if need be

Really happy with the structure, player selections and byes have been factored in too. Macrae vs Buddy my only decision

(http://i.imgur.com/Wj5ADNy.png)
Title: Re: RD's 2017 Team Thread
Post by: NickyBoy on March 11, 2017, 12:55:47 PM
Almost the same team as mine except for a couple of changes. I personally picked Buddy over Macrae but either one can do the job.
Title: Re: RD's 2017 Team Thread
Post by: crowls on March 11, 2017, 12:59:11 PM
Same structure RD.     Marchbank at D3.     tossing up my F3/f4 options.
Trealor over Rocky.

my fwd rookies are different but can see myself going to for those with better JS.   Also why Swallow will probably get a start in my team as well.    Love Taranto still not sure he will hold down a spot in GWS starting team. 
Good looking starting team mate. 
Title: Re: RD's 2017 Team Thread
Post by: RaisyDaisy on March 19, 2017, 07:34:22 PM
I think I've narrowed it down to 1 of these 3 teams

Thoughts?

Team 1

(http://i.imgur.com/V28umjW.png)

Team 2

(http://i.imgur.com/vFV1wDn.png)

Team 3

(http://i.imgur.com/nk2EFLT.png)



Title: Re: RD's 2017 Team Thread
Post by: Fid on March 19, 2017, 08:38:59 PM
Team 3 has all but 4 players on field the same as my side....

Team 2 - I am not sure how Greene will go with the inclusion of Lids (whenever he does play)

Team 1 - Sheed, is he a breakout contender?? Well you would know more about him than me.
Title: Re: RD's 2017 Team Thread
Post by: crowls on March 19, 2017, 09:58:33 PM
team 2
Title: Re: RD's 2017 Team Thread
Post by: PICCOLLO on March 19, 2017, 10:40:17 PM
Is there are 4th option a little bit less mid-priced?  :P
Title: Re: RD's 2017 Team Thread
Post by: RaisyDaisy on March 19, 2017, 10:55:47 PM
Quote from: PICCOLLO on March 19, 2017, 10:40:17 PM
Is there are 4th option a little bit less mid-priced?  :P

I'm working on a 4th option now actually, but to be honest with such a poor lack of half decent rookies available I think we all need to go mid priced this year because the only rookies that will actually get named and be half decent will need to fill up our benches, and there won't be enough to start on field
Title: Re: RD's 2017 Team Thread
Post by: myteamsuks on March 19, 2017, 11:22:15 PM
I like team 1.

And Sheed could be a good POD.
Did only play handful of games last year,
but he does tend to score more in DT than SC and that is a no-no for me.
Title: Re: RD's 2017 Team Thread
Post by: Bully on March 20, 2017, 03:38:38 PM
No surpirses, I like team 3. Aim should be to hit 2200 by round 1 and this is the team that looks best equipped to do so. You're only as strong as your weakest link and I feel Witts, Taranto & Otten are all capable of 70+ scores. Keepers = 13 (including Sadi & Beams) which means 9 upgrades. That's 9 cash cows required and room for 10 injury trades & 2 correctional trades. Nice balance.
Title: Re: RD's 2017 Team Thread
Post by: ants on March 20, 2017, 08:24:50 PM
team 1 for me!
Title: Re: RD's 2017 Team Thread
Post by: PICCOLLO on March 20, 2017, 08:46:55 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on March 19, 2017, 10:55:47 PM
Quote from: PICCOLLO on March 19, 2017, 10:40:17 PM
Is there are 4th option a little bit less mid-priced?  :P

I'm working on a 4th option now actually, but to be honest with such a poor lack of half decent rookies available I think we all need to go mid priced this year because the only rookies that will actually get named and be half decent will need to fill up our benches, and there won't be enough to start on field

Beams, Omeara, Swallow and probably Nank are givens.  Sandi okay.
Id plan for the worst and see what happens. The pickings are slim but each year only a few midpricers pay off, the more you have the less likely your team is going to go well. Its a fine line.

Pickett, SPP, Eddy, Hampton, Marchbank all look the goods. Just gotta take a punt on some others. It can be done.
Title: Re: RD's 2017 Team Thread
Post by: bowyanger on March 20, 2017, 09:56:30 PM
Pretty solid all 3, pro's n cons for each team...theyre all gonna be competitive

I'm not a fan of Ryder having rode that train in previous years

Surprised no Gawn in any option

I think the Saints have a few fwd potential breakouts in either Billings or Acres &  JSteven to become elite

I'm not sold on Pendles, its a wait and see for me, he played some half back last year

I'm not sure about HShaw or Docherty either, another wait and see for me (tagged?) perhaps better value in ZJones & Adams I'm hoping

Like Dangerpants, Jelwood, Laird, Treloar, Greene & your balls out number with Sheed

Title: Re: RD's 2017 Team Thread
Post by: RaisyDaisy on March 20, 2017, 10:59:21 PM
I really appreciate all the comments guys - thanks

Pro's and cons to all indeed, which just makes it so much harder to settle on something

I'll keep plugging away and I'm sure there will be a few more updates over the coming days


Title: Re: RD's 2017 Team Thread
Post by: essendon on March 23, 2017, 03:45:22 PM
Intrigued to see your final team RD! Always a good side each year you have!
Title: Re: RD's 2017 Team Thread
Post by: RaisyDaisy on April 10, 2017, 12:27:53 AM
Alright, so we're 3 rounds in so now's as good a time as ever to make an update. Really happy with the start to the year so far

Round 1: 2247 (Overall Rank 7741)
Round 2: 2244 (Overall Rank 4482)
Round 3: 2335 (Overall Rank 889)

Last week I used my first two trades on Ryder to WHE and GHS to Murphy

This week I'll likely be doing Florent to Newman (via Hibberd) and JOM to Touk, leaving me with

DEF: Docherty, Shaw, Laird, Marchbank, Hampton, Otten (Newman, Stewart)

MID: Danger, Pendles, Jelwood, Fyfe, Murphy, Beams, Steele, SPP (Barrett, Pickett, Hibberd)

RUC: Sandi, Witts (Strnadica)

FWD: Dahl, Macrae, Touk, Nank, Roughy, WHE (Parfitt, Eddy)

Title: Re: RD's 2017 Team Thread
Post by: Bully on April 10, 2017, 01:40:29 AM
Looks good to me. I'll be doing similar trades and bringing in Miller for O'Meara.
Title: Re: RD's 2017 Team Thread
Post by: _wato on April 10, 2017, 01:57:18 AM
Docherty, Shaw, Stewart, Pendles, Jelwood, Hibberd, Touk, WHE v Adams, Howe, ZJones, Rocky, Treloar, SPS, Higgins, Butler

They are out differences. We also ranked the same. How bout it :P
Title: Re: RD's 2017 Team Thread
Post by: sammy123 on April 10, 2017, 07:15:39 PM
sound trades RD. team is looking good
Title: Re: RD's 2017 Team Thread
Post by: Mongoose528 on April 10, 2017, 08:41:18 PM
Quote from: sammy123 on April 10, 2017, 07:15:39 PM
sound trades RD. team is looking good
Title: Re: RD's 2017 Team Thread
Post by: RaisyDaisy on April 10, 2017, 08:46:00 PM
Cheers lads

Ha wato, pretty crazy, and we're facing off in Elxam KO too!
Title: Re: RD's 2017 Team Thread
Post by: RaisyDaisy on April 30, 2017, 10:35:26 PM
Alright, another 3 weeks have passed since the last update so here's how things stand now

Round 1: 2247 (Overall Rank 7741)
Round 2: 2244 (Overall Rank 4482)
Round 3: 2335 (Overall Rank 889)
Round 4: 2107 (Overall Rank 716)
Round 5: 2199 (Overall Rank 1052)
Round 6: 2095 (Overall Rank 480)

Pretty happy to jump into the Top 500, and here's the team before trades

DEF: Docherty, Laird, Shaw, Marchbank, Otten, Newman (Hampton, Stewart)

MID: Danger, Pendles, Jelwood, Fyfe, Zorko, Murphy, Beams, SPP (Parfitt, Barrett, Hibberd)

RUC: Sandi, Witts (Strnadica)

FWD: Dahl, Macrae, Nank, Steele, Miller, Balic (Pickett, Eddy)

Not sure what I'll be doing trade wise just yet. Mid and Fwd bench coverage is pretty much flowered so need to bolster that up, and even more so if Nank misses through suspension. Upgrading one of the rookie defenders looks obvious, but I reckon I'll upgrade one of them to a prem forward if possible just to bat deeper there

Thinking I might dump one of Otten/Marchbank/Hampton to Black/Parsons via Hibberd and Pickett, and then upgrade Parfitt to a prem forward. Problem is, I like Heeney and possibly Buddy but their Round 11 bye is a killer and I can't get any more Round 11 players so with that being said the one move I can just squeeze in is

Otten to Parsons (via Hibberd and Pickett) and Parfitt to Yeo

Leaves me with

DEF: Docherty, Laird, Shaw, Marchbank, Newman, Hampton (Stewart, Hibberd)

MID: Danger, Pendles, Jelwood, Fyfe, Zorko, Murphy, Beams, SPP (Balic, Barrett, Pickett)

RUC: Sandi, Witts (Strnadica)

FWD: Dahl, Macrae, Yeo, Nank, Steele, Miller (Parsons, Eddy)

Yeo works great bye wise, and this strengthens my mid bench too, but I lose rookie DPP between mids and fwds and def looks a little weaker but I can use Hibberd to loop Stewart with Hampton and Newman and then look to get a def prem in next

Alternatively, I just double down this week

Decisions Decisions
Title: Re: RD's 2017 Team Thread
Post by: RaisyDaisy on April 30, 2017, 10:44:04 PM
Can also do Otten to EVW/Melican and Parfitt to Yeo, and that leaves Balic at either M9 or F7

Can't grab Black in either option as just fall short on being able to afford Yeo, and I can't see anyone cheaper that I prefer both scoring wise and bye wise

If Parsons comes straight back in then I'll grab him and go with the option mentioned in the previous post, and if not then this will be the back up option

Will also look further into other options
Title: Re: RD's 2017 Team Thread
Post by: Torpedo10 on April 30, 2017, 11:14:32 PM
I have no faith in YoYo, but being an Eagles supporter you probably know more on that front so trust your gut.

Nank in the forwards is handy if he has a week off, unlike some of us including myself who accidently put him in the rucks when our starting rucks spudded.  :-X

Considering all things, probably fair trades. Not sure I have faith in Hampton starting though. Even against North.
Title: Re: RD's 2017 Team Thread
Post by: Ringo on May 01, 2017, 11:39:38 AM
Look at the B/E RD - Otten still has a negative 4 B/E so I would use Marchbank who has a B/e of 42. Hamptons B/E is 19.

Other option could be look at Marchbank to a Prem defender after Parfitt to Parsons/Black but not sure of your cash situation.
Title: Re: RD's 2017 Team Thread
Post by: sammy123 on May 01, 2017, 12:04:12 PM
have you considered nroo
Title: Re: RD's 2017 Team Thread
Post by: HoleMeal on May 01, 2017, 12:05:57 PM
Quote from: Ringo on May 01, 2017, 11:39:38 AM
Look at the B/E RD - Otten still has a negative 4 B/E so I would use Marchbank who has a B/e of 42. Hamptons B/E is 19.

Other option could be look at Marchbank to a Prem defender after Parfitt to Parsons/Black but not sure of your cash situation.
Otten 55 B/E 
Marchbank B/E of 49
Hampton B/E 31
You may have the B/E's wrong Ringo.

Hampton to Melican would be my choice, then Parfitt to Yeo.
Title: Re: RD's 2017 Team Thread
Post by: Ricochet on May 01, 2017, 12:26:00 PM
Ha was about to say the same, think you have the wrong BE's there Ringo
Title: Re: RD's 2017 Team Thread
Post by: Ringo on May 01, 2017, 12:32:38 PM
Apologies thought I was in DT thread not SC.
Title: Re: RD's 2017 Team Thread
Post by: RaisyDaisy on May 01, 2017, 01:09:04 PM
Quote from: Ringo on May 01, 2017, 12:32:38 PM
Apologies thought I was in DT thread not SC.

Never been in DT section since I joined here haha

Quote from: sammy123 on May 01, 2017, 12:04:12 PM
have you considered nroo

Can't afford

Yeo I can just squeeze in, but need to dump Otten along with Parfitt
Title: Re: RD's 2017 Team Thread
Post by: RaisyDaisy on May 28, 2017, 11:37:51 PM
It's been a month since the last update, and unfortunately the past month hasn't been great in terms of my overall rank but I finally turned things around this week and hope to make up ground over the byes. Rounds 7-9 were brutal :(

Round 1: 2247 (Overall Rank 7741)
Round 2: 2244 (Overall Rank 4482)
Round 3: 2335 (Overall Rank 889)
Round 4: 2107 (Overall Rank 716)
Round 5: 2199 (Overall Rank 1052)
Round 6: 2095 (Overall Rank 480)
Round 7: 1969 (Overall Rank 1114)
Round 8: 2134 (Overall Rank 1720)
Round 9: 2207 (Overall Rank 2035)
Round 10: 2269 (Overall Rank 1343)

With 3 trades this week I've already locked in Hampton to Scharenberg and Barrett to Scooter

I could use my 3rd trade to turn Heater into Sloane, but I've decided to go with SPP to Robbie Gray instead. Prior to these trades I was still fielding two mid rookies each week but now I can field Gray and Scooter as M7/M8 and I can use Scooter as a stepping stone and Gray at 451k can either be a stepping stone or keeper/M9 and having already had his bye means he covers the upcoming byes

Just feel like SPP to Gray is a much better trade than luxury trading Shaw even though he has been really poor and I'd love to have Sloane

Team after this weeks trade, leaving me with 13 trades

D: Docherty, Adams, Laird, Hibberd, Shaw, Scharenberg (EVW, Stewart)

M: Dangerfield, Pendles, Jelwood, Zorko, Murphy, Fyfe, Gray, Scooter (Myers, Pickett, Hibberd)

R: Sandi, Witts, (Strnadica)

F: Yeo, Dahl, Macrae, Heeney, Nank, Steele (Greenwood, Parsons)

Feel good having all def and fwd bench rookies playing atm, whilst Pickett and Hibberd provide me with DPP flexibility which I've used several times already this year too

I'll look at turning EVW and Stewart into Lloyd and a rookie in a few weeks time, and Scooter/Myers/Greenwood to get a prem mid soon too
Title: Re: RD's 2017 Team Thread
Post by: AaronKirk on May 29, 2017, 03:28:44 AM
Wines surely the better option than Gray if you are looking at those 2?

Port has a very good draw which with Gray playing as basically as a permanent forward means he will score well but Wines could easily get 30+ every week, which with his style of game is good for SC point scoring.
Title: Re: RD's 2017 Team Thread
Post by: Ringo on May 29, 2017, 10:09:24 AM
With Barrett now having a B/e of 11 is it possible to go Pickett to Scooter. Greenwood can replace Pickett as DPP.
Title: Re: RD's 2017 Team Thread
Post by: RaisyDaisy on May 29, 2017, 10:58:23 AM
Can't afford Wines. Have just enough to squeeze in Gray for SPP

I prefer Gray over Wines anyway

As for Barrett, Pickett and his DPP is more valuable and I'm happy to miss out on the extra 30K Barrett has left to make
Title: Re: RD's 2017 Team Thread
Post by: RaisyDaisy on May 29, 2017, 11:14:20 AM
Just had another look and I can afford Gray or I can swing a fwd into the mids and grab a forward instead

Higgins is the only good option I can afford. $200 short on affording Lynch from GC LOL

Reckon I'll use Gray and see how he goes over these 3 weeks as bye cover. If he doesn't do great then I'll upgrade him, but seeing as I have 150K leftover after the first two trades I might as well use it and upgrade SPP to Gray.

There's nothing really else I can do with it for now, and not having to field mid rookies anymore makes this well worth the shot
Title: Re: RD's 2017 Team Thread
Post by: RaisyDaisy on May 30, 2017, 11:12:04 PM
Hampton to Scharenberg and Barrett to Scooter is locked in

As for the 3rd trade I'm cooling off on Gray for now but if Sandi doesn't return this week then I reckon there's no chance he goes to Brisbane the week after and then he has the bye so I'll use my third trade to turn Sandi into Sloane, and then next week or the week after I'll grab Stef or Gawn. Nank and Witts hold down the ruck for this week and next until I bring Stef or Gawn in

Means I have Scharenberg, Stewart and EVW at D6-D8, SPP, Myers and Hibberd as Mid bench and Greenwood at F6 with Parsons and Pickett on the bench, but Greenwood will move to bench once Nank returns to fwd line after bringing in Stef/Gawn in a couple of weeks. I'll use SPP and another rookie to get in Stef/Gawn

Thoughts?
Title: Re: RD's 2017 Team Thread
Post by: Jelemas on May 31, 2017, 12:33:57 PM
As someone who has had Gray in SC Draft all year i would give a strong buyer beware on him. His is not playing midfield and his scores are totally dependent on his goals return most games. Great player but not SC friendly this year.

The Sandi plan makes sense if he is still out.

Only other viable option I could suggest if you need a bit more cash this week Hampton to Cousins/Bolton via Hibberd. Should give you an extra 40-60k which may be handy. Berry/EVW to Scharenberg will be viable the week after if you dont waana miss him as well.
Title: Re: RD's 2017 Team Thread
Post by: Bully on May 31, 2017, 01:15:13 PM
Sandi to Sloane is a good trade, strongly considered it myself but the killer is rd 13. So will go Wines instead and pick Rocky next week with the spare cash. Given we're about the same in the rankings this will be a really interesting test case.
Title: Re: RD's 2017 Team Thread
Post by: RaisyDaisy on May 31, 2017, 01:23:11 PM
Thanks for the input Jelemas. I agree, and that's why I've cooled off going with Gray. I am aware of going early on Cousins instead of Schaz this week, but the extra coin doesn't get me anyone good enough anyway

Bully, I think I'm not too bad for Rd13 atm so Sloane I could get away with playing. Round 11 is the killer round for me so I'm just hoping I don't slip too far back this week. I don't think Sloane will keep things up, and it's those massive 140+ games that really scale up his average but he is scoring them so it can't be denied. 586k is a very good price though - I wouldn't spend much more tbh

Will sit tight and wait for teams and then decide which way to approach this