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Trade rules:

- You can't go below $9,100,000 in total salary at any point in your trades
- You can go over $11,400,000 (the max), provided you cut it down in your list lodgement
- Trades can be any combination of players and picks
- You can trade priority picks, picks in the first 5 rounds of the International Draft, first 2 rounds of the preseason draft and first 4 rounds of the rookie draft.

Start date: Once I issue all the player salaries. It will be the latest date out of midnight of the conclusion of the Grand Final (28th August) or when I issue the salaries.

Finish date: 11:59:59 PM AEDST, Friday the 18th of November

Every Monday(ish) will put trades up for a vote.

List trades as:

Team X trades: Player Y + Pick Z
Team A trades: Player B + Pick C

The other team must then confirm the trade.

Please just list and confirm trades here! All talk should go to this thread:

WXV Trade Confabulation (http://forum.fanfooty.com.au/index.php/topic,107696.0.html)

Trade Voting

Every coach needs to vote, missing 2 votes consecutively will result in A LOSS OF A DRAFT PICK. So have your assistants in order. The first co-coach vote I receive will count, the second co-coach vote I receive will not.

- 0-3 votes is an auto-pass
- 4-5 votes passes the trade with the admin having the power to reject it
- 6-7 votes fails a trade with the admin having the power to pass it
- 8+ votes is an auto-fail.

You have a week to vote! However, this year I'll be trying to do 2 votes per week; one on Monday morning and another Thursday morning. This won't happen until about Week 3 or 4 of the trade period though, because we'll be more than busy in the first few weeks of mass trading. Lenience will be introduced if you miss the trade voting deadlines, as this is a trial.

I'll also be disclosing/quoting the reasons why you negged the trade (in a rejected trade) to the coaches involved (via PM), but omitting the authors of the negs.

This year, if I'm not satisfied with your reason why you negged the trade, I simply won't count it. If I feel it is out of being petty or the reason just lacks detail, I won't count it. If you feel strongly enough about a trade, the reasons should be apparent enough for you to articulate them into a couple of sentences.

Trade Etiquette
- If a coach trades a player that you inquired about without getting back to you, PM me with a quote of the message, and I will auto-neg it. It is then expected that the coach enter negotiations with an open-mind to the coach it previously didn't get back to, and once resolved, then the trade will be put back on for voting. Come on guys, this isn't hard and I get sick of it happening.
- Complain all you like (except don't) about the decision of a trade, it won't amount to anything. I got so sick of complaints last year, that I might just start deleting posts if I feel it will lead to a nasty discussion. I just don't have the time or endurance to put up with it anymore, get over it.
- If you have a genuine complaint, please PM me and we'll talk about it.
- FFS, don't complain about a trade decision (publicly). Just don't. Move on.

International Draft

Date of draft: December 1st, but only when all WXVs teams have submitted their list lodgements.

Who can you draft: All players drafted in AFL National Draft, delisted WXV players

If you pass in any pick, you get picks in the Preseason draft

Preseason Draft

Date of draft: Immediately after International Draft

Who can you draft: All players left over from International Draft, players from the AFL preseason draft, players from the AFL Rookie draft, and any other Misc players (international rookies, etc.)

Rookie Draft

Date of draft: Immediately after Preseason draft

Who can you draft: Any remaining players!

Trades

Trade 1
Dublin trade: Samuel Collins
New York trade: Kayne Turner + Pick 51

Trade 2
Dublin trade: Daniel Currie + Pick 54
Buenos Aires trade: Kieran Collins + Pick 49

Trade 3
Christchurch trade: Pick 9 + Pick 28
Seoul trade: Thomas Boyd

Trade 4
Dublin trade: Marc Murphy + Pick 72
New Delhi trade: Kieren Jack + Pick 55

Trade 5
Cairo trade: Shaun Higgins
Christchurch trade: Koby Stevens, Pick 46, Pick 64 + Pick 82

Trade 6 (not rejected, but revised and confirmed at a later date)
Rio de Janeiro trade: Robert Murphy
Christchurch trade: Matthew Boyd

Trade 7
Cairo trade: Kamdyn McIntosh + Charlie Curnow
Seoul trade: Jack Newnes + Jason Castagna

Trade 8
New Delhi trade: Tom $cully + Pick 18
New York trade: Bachar Houli, Harley Balic + Brayden Fiorini

Trade 9
New York trade: Nakia Cockatoo, Nathan Hrovat + Pick 33
Cape Town trade: Dom Tyson + Pick 44

Trade 10
PNL trade: Zachary Williams, Billy Stretch, Pick 15 + Pick 70
Tokyo trade: Paddy Ryder, Pick 4 + Pick 41

Trade 11
Christchurch trade: Shaun McKernan
Rio de Janeiro trade: Pick 56

Trade 12
Dublin trade: Lance Franklin, Jarryd Roughead + Pick 55
Berlin trade: Brad Crouch, Pick 27 + Pick 45

Trade 13
Christchurch trade: Ben Reid + Pick 56
New York trade: Nathan Vardy, James Stewart + Pick 44

Trade 14
Mexico City trade: Cameron Ellis-Yolmen + Sam Gray
London trade: Ben Cunnington + Pick 25

Trade 15
Moscow trade: Tyrone Vickery
Mexico City trade: George Hewett

Trade 16
New York trade: Scott D Thompson
Seoul trade: Ben McGlynn

Trade 17
Dublin trade: Pick 49
Cairo trade: Ed Vickers-Willis

Trade 18
Berlin trade: William Hams
Cairo trade: Tom Cole

Trade 19
Mexico City trade: Rookie Pick 15
Christchurch trade: Ivan Soldo

Trade 20
Dublin trade: Lewis Jetta
Rio de Janeiro trade: Josh Bruce

Trade 21
New Delhi trade: Brayden Fiorini
Christchurch trade: Hamish Hartlett

Trade 22
Cairo trade: Pick 39
Christchurch trade: Jeff Garlett

Trade 23
Berlin trade: Josh Cowan
Moscow trade: Hayden Ballantyne

Trade 24
Christchurch trade: Dillon Viojo-Rainbow
PNL trade: Rookie Pick 32

Trade 25
Toronto trade: Jack Watts, Michael Close + Ben McKay
Rio de Janeiro trade: Travis Boak, Lewis Taylor + Tom Lamb

Trade 26
Berlin trade: Lachlan Henderson + Pick 8
New York trade: Stephen Hill + Pick 14

Trade 27
New Delhi trade: Brayden Fiorini, Sharrod Wellingham + Pick 37
Christchurch trade: Hamish Hartlett

Trade 28
New York trade: Pick 8 + Pick 18
Christchurch trade: Jake Stringer

Trade 29
Buenos Aires trade: Jack Crisp + Pick 31
Moscow trade: Cale Hooker + Pick 24

Trade 30
Moscow trade: Robbie Gray, Dominic Sheed + Nick Vlastuin
New Delhi trade: Stephen Coniglio, Jarman Impey, Zachary Clarke, Jack Hannath + Luke Partington

Trade 31
Rio de Janeiro trade: Pick 38
New York trade: Jack Redpath + Jonathan Griffin

Trade 32
Dublin trade: Pick 17, Pick 27, Pick 36, Pick 45 + Pick 51
PNL trade: Justin Westhoff, Hugh Greenwood + Tim Golds

Trade 33
Christchurch trade: Matthew Boyd + Jeremy Finlayson
Rio de Janeiro trade: Robert Murphy

Trade 34
Beijing trade: Pick 29
Christchurch trade: Mason Cox + Sharrod Wellingham

Trade 35
Christchurch trade: Pick 29 + Pick 44
New York trade: Jarrad Waite

Trade 36
PNL trade: Pick 52 + PSD Pick 14
New York trade: Teia Miles + Rookie Pick 31

Trade 37
Cairo trade: Pick 21 + Pick 57
New York trade: Jesse White, Pick 38 + PSD Pick 13

Trade 38
New Delhi trade: Stephen Coniglio, Luke Partington, Zachary Clarke + Jack Hannath
Moscow trade: Robbie Gray + Dominic Sheed

Trade 39
Dublin trade: Heath Grundy, Neville Jetta + Josh Bruce
London trade: Josh Schace + Daniel Nielson

Trade 40
London trade: Mitch Clark + Tom Lonergan
Rio de Janeiro trade: Pick 74 + Pick 92

Trade 41
Dublin trade: Ciaran Byrne
Beijing trade: Braydon Preuss + Pick 47

Trade 42
New Delhi trade: Tomas Bugg + Jarman Impey
Moscow trade: Nick Vlastuin

Trade 43
Buenos Aires trade: Tom Hickey + Pick 54
Mexico City trade: Harley Bennell + Pick 25

Trade 44
Berlin trade: Chris Masten
Christchurch trade: Aaron Vandenberg + Pick 39

Trade 45
Berlin trade: Pick 55
Tokyo trade: Jonathon Beech

Trade 46
New Delhi trade: Mitch Wallis + Dominic Sheed
Toronto trade: Jack Ziebell + Pick 40

Trade 47
Toronto trade: Dominic Sheed + Pick 22
Cairo trade: Pearce Hanley + Pick 49

Trade 48
Pacific trade: Pick 13 + Pick 32
Buenos Aires trade: Andrew Swallow

Trade 49
Cape Town trade: Gary Rohan
Rio de Janeiro trade: Johnathan Griffin

Trade 50
Cairo trade: Dougal Howard
PNL trade: Pick 51

Trade 51
Berlin trade: Josh Smith
Cairo trade: Luke Dunstan

Trade 52
Cape Town trade: Darcy Parish, Pick 7 + Billy Longer
PNL trade: Sam Naismith, Pick 4 + Pick 27

Trade 53
Toronto trade: Pick 20
Cape Town trade: Nathan Hrovat

Trade 54
PNL trade: Pick 88 + Rookie Pick 31
Cairo trade: Jake Batchelor + Rhys Palmer

Trade 55
Christchurch trade: Sam Gilbert + Pick 37
New York trade: Pick 29

Trade 56
Dublin trade: Bailey Dale
Rio de Janeiro trade: Andrew Mackie

Trade 57
Cape Town trade: Nakia Cockatoo
New Dehli trade: Ben Griffiths + Pick 40

Trade 58
Cape Town trade: Brodie Smith, Shane Savage + Pick 33
Toronto trade: Jasper Pittard, Jake Carlisle, Pick 58 + Rookie Pick 20

Trade 59
Cape Town trade: Nicholas Graham, Sam B Reid + Pick 40
New York trade: Samuel Collins + Pick 21

Trade 60
Christchurch trade: Luke Breust + Tory Dickson
Mexico City trade: Daniel Wells + Pick 16

Trade 61
Toronto trade: Pick 33 + Pick 49
Rio de Janeiro trade: Shane Kersten

Trade 62
Mexico City trade: Tory Dickson
Seoul trade: Cameron Sutcliffe

Trade 63
Mexico City trade: Shaun Hampson, Ivan Maric, Tom Papley, Cameron Sutcliffe, Jesse Palmer + Pick 35
Cape Town trade: Billy Longer, Trent McKenzie, Jarryn Geary, George Horlin-Smith, Lewis Pierce, Pick 26 + Pick 62

Trade 64
Cape Town trade: Darcy Parish
Toronto trade: Pick 3

Trade 65
Cape Town trade: Lukas Webb + Pick 21
PNL trade: Pick 17

Trade 66
Cape Town trade: Rookie Pick 20 + Rookie Pick 24
PNL trade: Rookie Pick 14

Trade 67
Christchurch trade: Jobe Watson + Pick 29 + PSD Pick 8
Berlin trade: Pick 14 + Pick 39

Trade 68
Berlin trade: Jordan Murdoch + Nick Suban
Pacific trade: Pick 50

Trade 69
Rio de Janeiro trade: Pick 33 + Pick 49
Berlin trade: Pick 29

Trade 70
Berlin trade: Darren Minchington, Jaden McGrath + Pick 63
PNL trade: Pick 45

Trade 71
Toronto trade: Tom Ruggles
Tokyo trade: Jack Grimes + Pick 70

Trade 72
Christchurch trade: Jack Trengove
New York trade: Pick 40

Trade 73
Christchurch trade: Will Minson
Rio de Janeiro trade: Rookie Pick 18

Trade 74
PNL trade: Jarrod Garlett + Pick 34
Moscow trade: Paul Seedsman + Pick 42

Trade 75
Dublin trade: Pick 47
Tokyo trade: Sam Durdin

Trade 76
Buenos Aires trade: Pick 12 + Pick 13
Christchurch trade: Pick 14 + Pick 16 + Pick 18

Trade 77
New York trade: Tom Bellchambers, Matt Rosa, Nicholas Graham + Pick 37
Moscow trade: David Armitage + Zachary Clarke + Pick 60

Trade 78
New York trade: Pick 57
Cape Town trade: Pick 58 + Pick 80

Trade 79
PNL trade: Pick 41, Pick 42 + Pick 63
Tokyo trade: Ricky Henderson, Dean Gore + Pick 47

Trade 80
Dublin trade: Matt Kennedy, Josh Schache, Rueben William, Andrew Mackie + Sam Frost
Dublin receive: Nathan Jones, Troy Menzel, Pick 33 + Pick 50

PNL trade: Nathan Jones + Troy Menzel
PNL receive: Matt Kennedy, Josh Schache + Reuben William

Berlin trade: Pick 33 + Pick 50
Berlin receive: Andrew Mackie + Sam Frost

Trade 81
Berlin trade: Rookie Pick 7
Cape Town trade: Joel Smith + Rookie Pick 14

Trade 82
Christchurch trade: Rookie Pick 8
Cape Town trade: Pick 57

Trade 83
Christchurch trade: Rookie Pick 15
Pacific trade: Pick 68

Trade 84
New Delhi trade: Rookie Pick 17
Cairo trade: PSD Pick 13

Trade 85
New Delhi trade: Rookie Pick 35
PNL trade: PSD Pick 32

Trade 86
Berlin trade: Daniel Talia
Moscow trade: Ryan Bastinac

Trade 87
Pacific trade: Pick 86 + PSD Pick 12
Dublin trade: Rookie Pick 16

Trade 88
Buenos Aires trade: Scott Pendlebury, Daniel Gorringe + Pick 32
Toronto trade: Travis Boak, Taylor Walker + Darcy Parish

Trade 89
Dublin trade: Joel Selwood, Pick 50, Pick 86 + Pick 90
New York trade: Tom McDonald, Daniel Menzel, Jack Trengove + Pick 44

Trade 90
Dublin trade: Daniel Menzel, Pick 33 + Pick 44
Berlin trade: Stephen Hill + Pick 49

Trade 91
Cape Town trade: Billie Smedts + PSD Pick 24
Cape Town receive: Lachlan Hansen

Dublin trade: Lachlan Hansen
Dublin receive: Pick 47 + PSD Pick 24

PNL trade: Pick 47
PNL receive: Billie Smedts

Trade 92
New York trade: Shaun Grigg
Rio de Janeiro trade: Robbie Tarrant

Trade 93
Dublin trade: Rookie Pick 34 + PSD Pick 24 
Rio de Janeiro trade: PSD Pick 18

Trade 94
Toronto trade: Rookie Pick 38
Rio de Janeiro trade: Cameron Pedersen + Rookie Pick 72

Trade 95
Berlin trade: Rookie Pick 14
Moscow trade: PSD Pick 4

Trade 96
Toronto trade: Riley Bonner + PSD Pick 20
Buenos Aires trade: Richard Douglas + Pick 67

Trade 97
Toronto trade: David Astbury
Moscow trade: Angus Monfries + Pick 78

Trade 98
Berlin trade: Kyle Cheney
Pacific trade: Joel Hamling + Rookie Pick 30

Trade 99
Berlin trade: Pick 44 + Pick 45
Christchurch trade: Pick 40 + Pick 68

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Trade Period 2

Trade 100
New York trade: Mitch Duncan + Liam Picken
Toronto trade: Mitch Wallis + Richard Douglas

Trade 101
Toronto trade: James Kelly
Rio de Janeiro trade: Alex Witherden

Trade 102
Berlin trade: Jarryd Roughead, Mark LeCras, Jay Kennedy-Harris + Ben Davis
Dublin trade: Kieren Jack, Kayne Turner, Ben Crocker + Jack Trengove

Trade 103
Toronto give: Lewis Taylor
Pacific give: Lee Spurr

Trade 104
Berlin trade: Jarryd Roughead + Hayden Ballantyne
New York trade: David Armitage + Jack Maibaum

Trade 105
Berlin trade: Jonathon Beech
Dublin trade: Jack Trengove

Trade 106
Cape Town trade: Tom Hawkins + Lachie Plowman
Dublin trade: Kieran Jack + Kayne Turner

Trade 107
Toronto trade: Angus Monfries
Rio de Janeiro trade: Taylor Hunt

Trade 108
Mexico City trade: Brad Ebert
Rio de Janeiro trade: David Zaharakis

TRADE WINDOW IS OPEN

Dublin Trade: Sam Collins
New York Trade: Kayne Turner + Pick 51

Cap Reduction: $51,000

Reason: Sam Collins has looked good this year but i need fwds and have surplus backs so taking a punt on Turner. It also reduces my cap which is now a thing.

Dublin Trade: Dan Currie + Pick 54
Buenos Aires Trade: Kieran Collins +  49

Cap Reduction: $24,000

Reason: While Currie was looking to take over the ruck spot before getting injured i simply dont need him with Goldy Daw. In case people think im losing too much I really rate Collins as an AFL player, whether he is a good SC player or not i have no clue.

The pick upgrade is tiny but everything helps and the Cap Reduction is good i guess aswell

Christchurch trade: picks 9, 28
Seoul trade: Thomas Boyd

Reason: I'd take Boyd with 9 as a forward compared to this year's crop. The fact that he'll add ruck cover to Roughead makes him more valuable, hence the 2nd rounder added.

Dublin Trade: Marc Murphy + Pick 72
New Dehli Tigers Trade: Kieran Jack + Pick 55

Cap Increase: 36k :(

Reason: Ok so Marc Murphy has by far the higest upside and jack is in a decline scoring wise, but i have zero depth as it is and will likely have to cut it further because of the cap. So going with the guy who will more likely play 22 games and average 90 then the guy who could play 18 and average 100+

Quote from: meow meow on August 29, 2016, 11:29:09 AM
Christchurch trade: picks 9, 28
Seoul trade: Thomas Boyd

Reason: I'd take Boyd with 9 as a forward compared to this year's crop. The fact that he'll add ruck cover to Roughead makes him more valuable, hence the 2nd rounder added.

Confrimed. Had enough of Tom

Quote from: Holz on August 29, 2016, 11:29:51 AM
Dublin Trade: Marc Murphy + Pick 72
New Dehli Tigers Trade: Kieran Jack + Pick 55

Cap Increase: 36k :(

Reason: Ok so Marc Murphy has by far the higest upside and jack is in a decline scoring wise, but i have zero depth as it is and will likely have to cut it further because of the cap. So going with the guy who will more likely play 22 games and average 90 then the guy who could play 18 and average 100+

Yep confirmed.

Same age but Murphy is injury prone and Holz wanted someone more durable.

Cairo trade: Shaun Higgins
Christchurch trade: Koby Stevens, picks 46, 64, 82

Reason: I like Higgins' durability. Adding another forward to replace Joey is also favorable.

Rio De Janeiro trade: Robert Murphy
Christchurch trade: Matthew Boyd

Reason: with Higgo, Griff and now Bob it's clear to see that I'm just collecting my favorite players (and my former Moscow comrades)

Quote from: meow meow on August 29, 2016, 11:34:07 AM
Cairo trade: Shaun Higgins
Christchurch trade: Koby Stevens, picks 46, 64, 82

Reason: I like Higgins' durability. Adding another forward to replace Joey is also favorable.

Confirmed.

Koby's pretty much exactly what we need moving forward and is younger and better than Higgo ioo (that doesn't have the same feel as imo, smh). We (specifically Polo) like the late picks too (see: Hutchings, McGovern, Wills, McCarthy).

Cairo trade: Kamdyn McIntosh + Charlie Curnow
Seoul trade: Jack Newnes + Jason Castagna

Reason: We believe Newnes is a more solid long term option that Kamdyn and while Curnow's a really good youngster, we rate Castagna's potential and scoring ability just that bit.

JB to confirm.

Quote from: Holz on August 29, 2016, 11:06:56 AM
Dublin Trade: Dan Currie + Pick 54
Buenos Aires Trade: Kieran Collins +  49

Cap Reduction: $24,000

Reason: While Currie was looking to take over the ruck spot before getting injured i simply dont need him with Goldy Daw. In case people think im losing too much I really rate Collins as an AFL player, whether he is a good SC player or not i have no clue.

The pick upgrade is tiny but everything helps and the Cap Reduction is good i guess aswell

Confirmed, getting a ruck set helps us out

NDT Trade: Scully + 2nd Round Nat
New York Trade: Houli + Balic + Fiorini


Houli is 29 nex year. Scully is just entering his prime
So we needed a little bit more. Which was Balic who went at 38 in last years afl draft
And lastly was Fiorini for a 2nd rounder and he went in the 2nd round last year.

RD/AK to confirm

Quote from: Holz on August 29, 2016, 11:03:36 AM
Dublin Trade: Sam Collins
New York Trade: Kayne Turner + Pick 51

Cap Reduction: $51,000

Reason: Sam Collins has looked good this year but i need fwds and have surplus backs so taking a punt on Turner. It also reduces my cap which is now a thing.

Confirmed

Quote from: Ricochet on August 29, 2016, 11:53:46 AM
NDT Trade: Scully + 2nd Round Nat
New York Trade: Houli + Balic + Fiorini


Houli is 29 nex year. Scully is just entering his prime
So we needed a little bit more. Which was Balic who went at 38 in last years afl draft
And lastly was Fiorini for a 2nd rounder and he went in the 2nd round last year.

RD/AK to confirm

Confirmed

New York trade: Nakia Cockatoo + Nathan Hrovat + Pick 33
Cape Town trade: Dom Tyson + Pick 44

Cape Town clearly building so Cockatoo and Hrovat are perfect for their needs whilst we get a utility upgrade. Ct also get pick upgrade to make things really fair and beneficial for both teams

Chumps to confirm

Quote from: Nige on August 29, 2016, 11:44:00 AM
Cairo trade: Kamdyn McIntosh + Charlie Curnow
Seoul trade: Jack Newnes + Jason Castagna

Reason: We believe Newnes is a more solid long term option that Kamdyn and while Curnow's a really good youngster, we rate Castagna's potential and scoring ability just that bit.

JB to confirm.

Confrimed: Reckon Mcintosh could be a quality rebounding defender

Big trade to kick off our trade period and certainly help fix a positional problem we've had for years.

PNL Trade: Z. Williams + B. Stretch + N15 + N70
Tokyo Trade: P. Ryder + N4 + N41

We've always had ruck problems and grabbing Ryder will compliment Lobbe. Although both together can't score as highly as individually, better to grab both so at least we have a playing ruck next year. Zac had a great season and locked a spot down in the team, as has Stretch to a lesser extent. The pick swaps to account for the age differences and capabilities given their teams/competition within them.

Quote from: Hellopplz on August 29, 2016, 06:25:09 PM
Big trade to kick off our trade period and certainly help fix a positional problem we've had for years.

PNL Trade: Z. Williams + B. Stretch + N15 + N70
Tokyo Trade: P. Ryder + N4 + N41

We've always had ruck problems and grabbing Ryder will compliment Lobbe. Although both together can't score as highly as individually, better to grab both so at least we have a playing ruck next year. Zac had a great season and locked a spot down in the team, as has Stretch to a lesser extent. The pick swaps to account for the age differences and capabilities given their teams/competition within them.

Confirmed. My rucks stood up ok this year without Ryder & with Nic Nat out Lycett should only get better. My backline is my biggest weakness so Williams will definitely help with that & Stretch is handy depth.

Purps just going to revise trade 8 if we can please

We've had a chat RD and have agreed to trade our 1st round Nat pick instead

NDT Trade: Scully + 1st Round Nat
New York Trade: Houli + Balic + Fiorini

Reasoning again:
Houli is 29 nex year. Scully is just entering his prime
So we needed a little bit more. Which was Balic who went at 38 in last years afl draft
And lastly was Fiorini for our 1st rounder

RD/AK to confirm

Quote from: Ricochet on August 30, 2016, 07:16:53 PM
Purps just going to revise trade 8 if we can please

We've had a chat RD and have agreed to trade our 1st round Nat pick instead

NDT Trade: Scully + 1st Round Nat
New York Trade: Houli + Balic + Fiorini

Reasoning again:
Houli is 29 nex year. Scully is just entering his prime
So we needed a little bit more. Which was Balic who went at 38 in last years afl draft
And lastly was Fiorini for our 1st rounder

RD/AK to confirm

Confirmed

Just wanted to express my appreciation to Rico and Ele because even though I hated the fact that we were trading Fiorini (I love him lol) we agreed to a deal and a deal's a deal, but for the boys to approach us and actually suggest that they give us their 1st rounder now and not their 2nd rounder, just shows how classy they are, and it definitely makes the deal much more fairer for both of us now because with JOM, Prestia and even Swallow possibly all going I expect Fiorini to cement a spot in the GC mids

As Rico said, we're giving up an older defender playing for a team we think is on the decline and getting a starting mid entering his prime playing for a team on the up, so we all agree this is fair and beneficial to both teams

Quote from: RaisyDaisy on August 29, 2016, 01:17:16 PM
New York trade: Nakia Cockatoo + Nathan Hrovat + Pick 33
Cape Town trade: Dom Tyson + Pick 44

Cape Town clearly building so Cockatoo and Hrovat are perfect for their needs whilst we get a utility upgrade. Ct also get pick upgrade to make things really fair and beneficial for both teams

Chumps to confirm

Confirmed.

Tough to let Tyson go but we've got enough mids - two (hopefully) handy M/F's. Like the ceiling of Cockatoo also.

Rio trade: pick 56
Christchurch trade: Shaun McKernan

Quote from: meow meow on August 31, 2016, 12:33:40 PM
Rio trade: pick 56
Christchurch trade: Shaun McKernan

Confirmed.

Dublin Trade: Lance Franklin + Jarryd Roughead
Berlin Trade: Brad Crouch + Pick 27 + Pick 45

Cap: -619k

Reason: so here is my 1 monster deal, i sually have a few but this is the only 1. Ok so my midfield is high quality but i have no depth what so ever, lewis Jetta is my m6. So having a gun forward line is great but not if im playing it at u2. Franlin is an absolute machine and he is in AA form and given he has a long way left on his contract i expect him to be around for a long time and sydney are a top team so he should keep kicking bags. Roughy im very sad to let go but its purely for cap reasons i cant have a 430k sitting on my bench. I have done lots of research into his treatment and i think he has a good chance of recoving but my estimate is he comes back 2018.

buddy and crouch i rate similar with one a fwd premo and one a younger but injury risk mid. Think buddy is a better forward then crouch is a mid and injury risk cancels out the age difference. As i said its all about getting a mid. The picks are late enough that all the good players are gone but i could pick up a decent player with good drafting.

Quote from: Holz on September 03, 2016, 05:05:22 PM
Dublin Trade: Lance Franklin + Jarryd Roughead
Berlin Trade: Brad Crouch + Pick 27 + Pick 45

Cap: -619k

Reason: so here is my 1 monster deal, i sually have a few but this is the only 1. Ok so my midfield is high quality but i have no depth what so ever, lewis Jetta is my m6. So having a gun forward line is great but not if im playing it at u2. Franlin is an absolute machine and he is in AA form and given he has a long way left on his contract i expect him to be around for a long time and sydney are a top team so he should keep kicking bags. Roughy im very sad to let go but its purely for cap reasons i cant have a 430k sitting on my bench. I have done lots of research into his treatment and i think he has a good chance of recoving but my estimate is he comes back 2018.

buddy and crouch i rate similar with one a fwd premo and one a younger but injury risk mid. Think buddy is a better forward then crouch is a mid and injury risk cancels out the age difference. As i said its all about getting a mid. The picks are late enough that all the good players are gone but i could pick up a decent player with good drafting.

Dublin is sending pick 72 my way as well according to our last PM, so it's

Dublin Trade: Lance Franklin + Jarryd Roughead + Pick 72
Berlin Trade: Brad Crouch + Pick 27 + Pick 45

Brad Crouch... had him for 5 years, since the very beginning. This guy will be an absolute star, and I'm sad to see him go. But I... don't have any star forwards. And Buddy is just that. The Crouch heartbreak is offset by Buddy coming back to Berlin :D :D he was the first and original Brewer, and it will be great to see him put on the guernsey for the next 6 years  8)

Thought I'd take a punt on Roughy too... very high reward if he gets back.

Quote from: Purple 77 on September 03, 2016, 05:59:50 PM

Quote from: Holz on September 03, 2016, 05:05:22 PM
Dublin Trade: Lance Franklin + Jarryd Roughead
Berlin Trade: Brad Crouch + Pick 27 + Pick 45

Cap: -619k

Reason: so here is my 1 monster deal, i sually have a few but this is the only 1. Ok so my midfield is high quality but i have no depth what so ever, lewis Jetta is my m6. So having a gun forward line is great but not if im playing it at u2. Franlin is an absolute machine and he is in AA form and given he has a long way left on his contract i expect him to be around for a long time and sydney are a top team so he should keep kicking bags. Roughy im very sad to let go but its purely for cap reasons i cant have a 430k sitting on my bench. I have done lots of research into his treatment and i think he has a good chance of recoving but my estimate is he comes back 2018.

buddy and crouch i rate similar with one a fwd premo and one a younger but injury risk mid. Think buddy is a better forward then crouch is a mid and injury risk cancels out the age difference. As i said its all about getting a mid. The picks are late enough that all the good players are gone but i could pick up a decent player with good drafting.

Dublin is sending pick 72 my way as well according to our last PM, so it's

Dublin Trade: Lance Franklin + Jarryd Roughead + Pick 72
Berlin Trade: Brad Crouch + Pick 27 + Pick 45

Brad Crouch... had him for 5 years, since the very beginning. This guy will be an absolute star, and I'm sad to see him go. But I... don't have any star forwards. And Buddy is just that. The Crouch heartbreak is offset by Buddy coming back to Berlin :D :D he was the first and original Brewer, and it will be great to see him put on the guernsey for the next 6 years  8)

Thought I'd take a punt on Roughy too... very high reward if he gets back.

I confirm i missed 72

Christchurch trade: Ben Reid + pick 56
New York trade: Nathan Vardy, James Stewart + pick 44

Quote from: meow meow on September 04, 2016, 12:57:05 AM
Christchurch trade: Ben Reid + pick 56
New York trade: Nathan Vardy, James Stewart + pick 44

Confirmed

Reid and Vardy are just as injury prone as each other. Vardy and Stewart are much younger, but Reid has much better JS so we threw in the small pick upgrade too

Dublin Trade: Lance Franklin + Jarryd Roughead + Pick 55
Berlin Trade: Brad Crouch + Pick 27 + Pick 45

Making that Pick 55 after all :P

Quote from: Purple 77 on September 04, 2016, 05:40:18 PM
Dublin Trade: Lance Franklin + Jarryd Roughead + Pick 55
Berlin Trade: Brad Crouch + Pick 27 + Pick 45

Making that Pick 55 after all :P

confirm, super annoyed i lose one of my 3rd rounders though :P

3rd round is supposed to be dublin round.

Mexico City Suns give: Cameron Ellis-Yolmen & Sam Gray
London Royals give: Ben Cunnington & Pick 25

Cunnington strengthens my midfield and I think he can bounce back next year. Ringo to confirm.

Moscow Give: Tyrone Vickery

Mexico City Give: George Hewett

Tyrone was beginning to dislike the cold of his wife's country of origin, and it never hurts to grab a George.

JR to confirm.

Quote from: JROO8 on September 05, 2016, 08:30:23 PM
Mexico City Suns give: Cameron Ellis-Yolmen & Sam Gray
London Royals give: Ben Cunnington & Pick 25

Cunnington strengthens my midfield and I think he can bounce back next year. Ringo to confirm.

Confirmed - Gray and Cunners averaged similar last year and Gray is a little younger and fits the rebuild. CEY I think will be a gun and pick 25 balances that out. 

Quote from: Torpedo10 on September 05, 2016, 08:48:05 PM
Moscow Give: Tyrone Vickery

Mexico City Give: George Hewett

Tyrone was beginning to dislike the cold of his wife's country of origin, and it never hurts to grab a George.

JR to confirm.

Confirmed, Hewett showed a bit this season but I  think Ty can be handy if he goes to the Hawks.

New York trade: Scott D Thompson
Seoul trade: Ben McGlynn

JB to confirm

Quote from: RaisyDaisy on September 06, 2016, 12:30:22 AM
New York trade: Scott D Thompson
Seoul trade: Ben McGlynn

JB to confirm

Confirmed just a swapping of oldies

Seoul give: Sam Reid
Dublin give: Marc Pittonet

Fwd depth for Ruck depth

Holz to confirm

Quote from: JBs-Hawks on September 06, 2016, 11:39:07 AM
Seoul give: Sam Reid
Dublin give: Marc Pittonet

Fwd depth for Ruck depth

Holz to confirm

Declined,

i thought it was Sam Reid not Sam J Reid.

Dublin Give: Pick 49
Cairo Give: Ed Vickers-Willis

Reason: EVW was taken slightly later in the 3rd round a few years ago, hasnt played a game but of course is 2 years older. I reckon his value has pretty much stayed the same for that reason.

starting to build my north list up.

his name is too long so im going to call him Ed Vickers

Quote from: Holz on September 07, 2016, 03:49:20 PM
Dublin Give: Pick 49
Cairo Give: Ed Vickers-Willis

Reason: EVW was taken slightly later in the 3rd round a few years ago, hasnt played a game but of course is 2 years older. I reckon his value has pretty much stayed the same for that reason.

starting to build my north list up.

Confirmed. Pick 49 a good chance to be as good as if not better than the current unknown that is EVW so we're happy to punt on the pick since EVW is pretty much expendable.

Berlin trade: William Hams
Cairo trade: Tom Cole

Like the look of Cole, and I reckon he'll match the awesomeness that is Hams future (whom is destined to out-average all PNL players). Therefore, Cole will out-average PNL.

Quote from: Purple 77 on September 07, 2016, 05:17:06 PM
Berlin trade: William Hams
Cairo trade: Tom Cole

Like the look of Cole, and I reckon he'll match the awesomeness that is Hams future (whom is destined to out-average all PNL players). Therefore, Cole will out-average PNL.

Confirmed. We're at the point where we basically need to sell organs for forwards, please help.  :'(

Mexico City trade: rookie 15
Christchurch trade: Ivan Soldo

Confirmed

Dublin Trade: Lewis Jetta
Rio Trade: Josh Bruce

Reason: the guy im trading was apparently better then SJ, he actually looked ok towards the end of the year and the eagles probably could have used him last night. I need forwards though so punting on former Dubliner Bruce. I also drop my cap by 80k.

NDT trade: Brayden Fiorini
Christchurch trade: Hamish Hartlett

Quote from: meow meow on September 09, 2016, 11:16:31 AM
NDT trade: Brayden Fiorini
Christchurch trade: Hamish Hartlett

Confirmed

Not sure what the go is with Hartlett. Coming off 77ave, injury prone and now Port want to trade him. But happy to take the risk

Cairo give: Pick 39
Christchurch give: Sir Jefferson Garlett

Reason(s):

Quote from: meow meow on September 08, 2016, 02:31:59 PM
Jeff Garlett, the man who has kicked the 250th most AFL/VFL goals in history can move for a pick in the 30's. Jeffy had a pretty average year but has four 70+ seasons under his belt including a 78. Plays every week. Still has four seasons left in him. Melbourne improving = more goals.

Quote from: meow meow on September 08, 2016, 02:46:54 PM
And we have one bid in already from a very intelligent coach. Draft picks often result in nothing, you'll get a guaranteed return on Buddy's cousin.

Quote from: meow meow on September 08, 2016, 02:54:51 PM
Jeff was homeless before he was an AFL player. His junior coach used to feed him before training. Slept in his car. Inspirational player this one.

Quote from: meow meow on September 08, 2016, 03:42:56 PM
Garlett is also the nephew of Neon Leon, who peaked right at the end of his career. Jeffrey about to do the same.

Quote from: meow meow on September 08, 2016, 03:56:00 PM
Garlett averaged 100.5 from the first ten games one year. Haven't seen Scharenberg do anything like that,  in fact all I've seen him do is his acl. Jeffy gets it done while these other chumps get by on potential and "will be a gun" for their whole careers.

Quote from: meow meow on September 08, 2016, 04:03:24 PM
Doing your acl isn't that impressive tbh.

250th best goal kicker of all time! Will rise to the top 200 by the time his career has finished. Semi decent? Pfft, Jeffy is a star and I should probably be asking for a premo mid in return.

Quote from: meow meow on September 09, 2016, 04:04:18 PM
1194th most games played, 250th most goals kicked of any player... ever!

31st most goals kicked for Carlton

98th most goals kicked for Melbourne.

2011: 48 goals
2012: 29 goals
2013: 43 goals
2014: 12 goals
2015: 40 goals
2016: 29 goals

I think it's safe to assume that Jeffy is going to kick 40+ goals next year since he's due.

Quote from: meow meow on September 09, 2016, 04:07:40 PM
Contracted for another 3 seasons. He will have just turned 30 at the end of that so a good chance to play for another couple after that too. 5 seasons of brilliance from an AFL star for a pick in the 30's? Bargain.

meow to confirm.

Confirmed :'( :'( :'(

Reason: Gotta free up cap space for Rockliff and Priddis

Berlin Give: Josh Cowan
Moscow Give: Hayden Ballatyne

We have decent forward depth, and I see potential in Cowan.

Quote from: Torpedo10 on September 09, 2016, 05:31:32 PM
Berlin Give: Josh Cowan
Moscow Give: Hayden Ballatyne

We have decent forward depth, and I see potential in Cowan.

Confirmed. Need forward depth.

Quote from: Holz on September 09, 2016, 11:01:00 AM
Dublin Trade: Lewis Jetta
Rio Trade: Josh Bruce

Reason: the guy im trading was apparently better then SJ, he actually looked ok towards the end of the year and the eagles probably could have used him last night. I need forwards though so punting on former Dubliner Bruce. I also drop my cap by 80k.

Confirmed.

Christchurch trade: Dillon Viojo-Rainbow
PNL trade: rookie pick 32

Quote from: meow meow on September 10, 2016, 04:23:47 PM
Christchurch trade: Dillon Viojo-Rainbow
PNL trade: rookie pick 32

Confirmed.

DVR may be cut this year as been up and down in the VFL for 2 seasons but worth a punt from us as I like his spunk. Anybody with a hyphenated surname deserves a chance at PNL.

Toronto give: Jack Watts + Michael Close + Ben McKay
Rio de Janeiro give: Travis Boak + Lewis Taylor + Tom Lamb

Reason: Watts averaged 8 less than Boak but seeing as he's three years younger and being a forward vs mid meant we needed something extra. Taylor averaged 58 this season and might lose forward status but hoping he can rebound somewhat next year.

Levi to confirm.

Quote from: Adamant on September 10, 2016, 05:21:45 PM
Toronto give: Jack Watts + Michael Close + Ben McKay
Rio de Janeiro give: Travis Boak + Lewis Taylor + Tom Lamb

Reason: Watts averaged 8 less than Boak but seeing as he's three years younger and being a forward vs mid meant we needed something extra. Taylor averaged 58 this season and might lose forward status but hoping he can rebound somewhat next year.

Levi to confirm.

Confrimed

Berlin trade: Lachlan Henderson + Pick 8
New York trade: Stephen Hill + Pick 14

Stephen Hill works perfectly for me actually, because I was after a decent but affordable mid to go onto my utilities. I had defenders to spare, I needed some good mid depth... this trade works really well for me.

Quote from: Purple 77 on September 11, 2016, 08:04:06 PM
Berlin trade: Lachlan Henderson + Pick 8
New York trade: Stephen Hill + Pick 14

Stephen Hill works perfectly for me actually, because I was after a decent but affordable mid to go onto my utilities. I had defenders to spare, I needed some good mid depth... this trade works really well for me.

Confirmed.

Whilst Hill is a loss Henderson is a perfect fit for our side. Averaged 80 in 2016 and with potential cat retirements he is a player who has scope for improvement in scoring in future years and gives more coverage when Gibbo retires.

Revised deal

NDT Give: Fiorini + Wellingham + 2nd Round Nat
Christchurch Give: Hartlett

meow to confirm

Confirmed.

New York give: Pick 8 + Pick 18
Christchurch give: Jake Stringer

We're giving up 2 first round picks for Jake, and considering so many teams put in good bids for him we obviously had to up our bid in order to land him. We think Jake is worth our first 2 picks - he clearly has potentially, and I think it's fair to say most coaches would too, considering so many teams offered Meow offers that we're just below ours

Meow to confirm

Confirmed.

The Package had a bad year and still averaged 75. A good season and he could be anything. I've got faith in WHE, Smith, Vandenberg, McLean etc to step up next year. Mitchell, Watson, Griffen won't be around forever so need some youth in the mids and picks seems to be the way to go.

Buenos Aires Give: Jack Crisp + N31
Moscow Give: Cale Hooker + N24

We wanted another midfielder, and we like Crisp albeit he is surrounded by guns at the Pies.

iZander/Vin to confirm.

Quote from: Torpedo10 on September 15, 2016, 05:35:05 PM
Buenos Aires Give: Jack Crisp + N31
Moscow Give: Cale Hooker + N24

We wanted another midfielder, and we like Crisp albeit he is surrounded by guns at the Pies.

iZander/Vin to confirm.

Confirm

Moscow Give: Robbie Gray, Dom Sheed, Nick Vlastuin

New Delhi Give: Stephen Coniglio, Jarman Impey, Zac Clarke, Jack Hannath, Luke Partington

Reason: We give Gray but get his replacement in Conigs, albeit a lesser average. Clarke & Hannath fix our ruck issue, and that's a vital reason we are parting with young guns like Vlas and Sheed. I don't like losing them at all, but sometimes it just has to be done. After literally months of discussion  :P:

Rico/Ele to Confirm.

Quote from: Torpedo10 on September 16, 2016, 03:47:46 PM
Moscow Give: Robbie Gray, Dom Sheed, Nick Vlastuin

New Delhi Give: Stephen Coniglio, Jarman Impey, Zac Clarke, Jack Hannath, Luke Partington

Reason: We give Gray but get his replacement in Conigs, albeit a lesser average. Clarke & Hannath fix our ruck issue, and that's a vital reason we are parting with young guns like Vlas and Sheed. I don't like losing them at all, but sometimes it just has to be done. After literally months of discussion  :P:

Rico/Ele to Confirm.

Confirm.

Conigs is a gun. At 22 he's averaged 106 and been a legit captain option (was going at 109 until the last 2 rounds). At his age and quality, there's basically 8 years of scoring around that mark
Gray is 29 next year, so obviously a lot less 100+ years left
So we needed more to even it up.
Sheed is coming along slowly but Ele likes his Eagles boys.
Clarke + Hannath gives Moscow the Freo rucks who aren't ancient. Sandi has a year left and Griff is 31 next year. So that leaves Clarke and Hannath (if Clarke doesn't want to go to another team, which will probs be better for Moscow).
Partington was our early 2nd rounder from last year
Impey provides fwd depth
and Vlast gives us a 75ave D4

Rio gives: National Pick 38
New York gives: Jack Redpath + Jonathan Griffin

RD/AK to confirm.

Quote from: Levi434 on September 17, 2016, 11:49:24 AM
Rio gives: National Pick 38
New York gives: Jack Redpath + Jonathan Griffin

RD/AK to confirm.

Confirmed

Dublin Trade: 17 27 36 45 51
Pnl trade: westhoff, hugh greenwood,  golds

Finally have a dublin pnl trade. Sad to see a 1St, 2 2nds and 2 3rds go after i built up the picks. Especially with roughy the cost of 27.

I need the forward though.

Quote from: Holz on September 18, 2016, 01:22:43 PM
Dublin Trade: 17 27 36 45 51
Pnl trade: westhoff, hugh greenwood,  golds

Finally have a dublin pnl trade. Sad to see a 1St, 2 2nds and 2 3rds go after i built up the picks. Especially with roughy the cost of 27.

I need the forward though.

Confirmed. We like picks and need to build up some depth and youngsters on our list given the ages of some of our older guys. Giving up Westy who's a reliable forward is a big cost (especially to Dublin which many won't like) but he did have the best offer in the end. Leaves our forwards relying on youngsters stepping up but I believe in the Reindeers!

Revising our deal.

Christchurch gives: Matthew Boyd + Jeremy Finlayson
Rio gives: Robert Murphy

Quote from: Levi434 on September 18, 2016, 03:19:24 PM
Revising our deal.

Christchurch gives: Matthew Boyd + Jeremy Finlayson
Rio gives: Robert Murphy

Confirming our deal.

Beijing is off the mark.

Beijing give: N29
Christchurch give: Mason Cox + Sharrod Wellingham

Meow is reducing his list size, I'm gaining a backup ruck for Brodie Grundy and a depth defender. Meow to confirm.

Quote from: Toga on September 19, 2016, 09:06:28 PM
Beijing is off the mark.

Beijing give: N29
Christchurch give: Mason Cox + Sharrod Wellingham

Meow is reducing his list size, I'm gaining a backup ruck for Brodie Grundy and a depth defender. Meow to confirm.

Confirmed.

Christchurch trade: picks 29 + 44
New York trade: Jarrad Waite

Quote from: meow meow on September 20, 2016, 02:26:28 PM
Christchurch trade: picks 29 + 44
New York trade: Jarrad Waite

Confirmed

Meow is looking to trim down his list size and we're looking to increase it so this works well from that perspective

Waite's last 3 years have seen averages of 90+, 80+, 90+ and with at least one more year to go he provides Church with a short term solid forward

We get 2 picks that get us into the draft and trim our cap whilst increasing list size

BIG TRADE HERE!

PNL Gives: N52 + PSD 14
NY Gives: T. Miles + R31

Reason: I like Miles and have for several seasons. He'll join the rest of the backs I like but never eventuate into anything.

Quote from: Hellopplz on September 20, 2016, 11:36:36 PM
BIG TRADE HERE!

PNL Gives: N52 + PSD 14
NY Gives: T. Miles + R31

Reason: I like Miles and have for several seasons. He'll join the rest of the backs I like but never eventuate into anything.

Confirmed

HP's been asking for years for Miles, so happy to do it :)

Cairo trade: N21, N57
New York trade: Jesse White, N38, PSD13

Reasoning: White has fwd status

RD/AK to confirm.

Quote from: GoLions on September 21, 2016, 11:40:14 AM
Cairo trade: N21, N57
New York trade: Jesse White, N38, PSD13

Reasoning: White has fwd status

RD/AK to confirm.

Confirmed

Cairo needs a forward and White averaged 75 which isn't bad at all, plus Cloke leaving could help more

OK we've revised and will leave Vlastuin out for now

NDT Give: Stephen Coniglio + Partington + Clarke + Hannath
Moscow Give: Gray + Sheed

Torp to confirm

Again, Conigs has gone 96ave (excluding his 18SC vest game RD1) last year, and 105+ this year as a 22 yr old. Gray is averaging the same but will be 29 next year.
Partington was pick 24 from last year and a ball magnet as a junior
Clarke has battled with his knee this year and last year, but with Sandi and Griff in their last year, hopefully he can take over as #1 at Freo (or get traded which will benefit him also). Hannath provides backup depth

Quote from: Ricochet on September 21, 2016, 03:32:34 PM
OK we've revised and will leave Vlastuin out for now

NDT Give: Stephen Coniglio + Partington + Clarke + Hannath
Moscow Give: Gray + Sheed

Torp to confirm

Again, Conigs has gone 96ave (excluding his 18SC vest game RD1) last year, and 105+ this year as a 22 yr old. Gray is averaging the same but will be 29 next year.
Partington was pick 24 from last year and a ball magnet as a junior
Clarke has battled with his knee this year and last year, but with Sandi and Griff in their last year, hopefully he can take over as #1 at Freo (or get traded which will benefit him also). Hannath provides backup depth

Confirmed

Dublin Trade: Heath Grundy + Neville Jetta + Josh Bruce
London Trade: Josh Schace + Dan Nielson

Reason: Well basically it was cap space, I was struggling to get under the cap and Schace is cheap at 129k. Heath Grundy is a starter for me and if Yarran is missing he is my D3, but was pricey for the cap. basically goes 77 every year and only just turned 30.

Jetta is a really good player and was starting to turn into a decent fantasy cover, he was my D5 so all this hype up around Omac needs to be valid or im in trouble.

Bruce i targeted on a down year, i think he will take over Nroo role and makes total sense for London as they have Membrey.

Schace im pretty certain will be a good AFL player but not sure if he will be a good fantasy player. He will take time till we see if he has fantasy potential, so hopefully Westhoff can stay around untill that occurs (or Matt Kennedy break out)

I have Hansen and Vicker-Willis so Nielson is another North add i have last on the pecking order but might as well get all 3 defenders who can take Firrito's spot.

Quote from: Holz on September 23, 2016, 03:10:25 PM
Dublin Trade: Heath Grundy + Neville Jetta + Josh Bruce
London Trade: Josh Schace + Dan Nielson

Reason: Well basically it was cap space, I was struggling to get under the cap and Schace is cheap at 129k. Heath Grundy is a starter for me and if Yarran is missing he is my D3, but was pricey for the cap. basically goes 77 every year and only just turned 30.

Jetta is a really good player and was starting to turn into a decent fantasy cover, he was my D5 so all this hype up around Omac needs to be valid or im in trouble.

Bruce i targeted on a down year, i think he will take over Nroo role and makes total sense for London as they have Membrey.

Schace im pretty certain will be a good AFL player but not sure if he will be a good fantasy player. He will take time till we see if he has fantasy potential, so hopefully Westhoff can stay around untill that occurs (or Matt Kennedy break out)

I have Hansen and Vicker-Willis so Nielson is another North add i have last on the pecking order but might as well get all 3 defenders who can take Firrito's spot.

Confirmed - Hate to lose Schache but trade assists both of us with cap issues. Grundy adds some experience to our back line, Jetta provides depth and Bruce more than adequate replacement for Schache.

London Trades: Mitch Clark + Tom Lonergan
Rio Trades: National Pick 74 + National Pick 92

Back to back Premiers locked in! Clark will win next years Coleman and Lonergan will be the number 1 SC mid.

Ringo to confirm.

Confirmed - We need some late picks for list management and make way for rookie upgrades and PSD draft.

Dublin trade: Ciaryn Byrne
Beijing trade: Brayden Preuss + Pick 47.

I love Byrne and was looking real good before the injury. Should be back mid year. I probably need him after the shache trade but completing my north ruck set is important.

The pick is decent enough to balance out the different values.

Quote from: Holz on September 27, 2016, 05:52:19 PM
Dublin trade: Ciaryn Byrne
Beijing trade: Brayden Preuss + Pick 47.

I love Byrne and was looking real good before the injury. Should be back mid year. I probably need him after the shache trade but completing my north ruck set is important.

The pick is decent enough to balance out the different values.

Confirmed.

Holz gets his North ruck set, I get a project player down back.

NDT Gives: Tom Bugg + Jarman Impey
Moscow Gives: Nick Vlastuin

Torp/Jukes to confirm.

Quote from: elephants on September 27, 2016, 07:13:08 PM
NDT Gives: Tom Bugg + Jarman Impey
Moscow Gives: Nick Vlastuin

Torp/Jukes to confirm.

Confirmed.

I like Bugg, and he should be a worthy D4 if he keeps Defender status, if not we have solid midfield depth. Impey I see great potential in, even managed a 3Vote at the Brownlow.  ;) If he can increase to a 70-75 small forward he could get a starters spot in our side.

Buenos Aires give: T.Hickey + N54.
Mexico City give: H.Bennell + N25.

JROO to confirm.

Mexico needed a ruck. We needed a starting forward and Bennell provides that, we have Nicholls who can replace Hickey as our starting ruck. The exchange of picks is to balance out Bennell's injury issues and the risk surrounding his off-field dramas.

Quote from: Vinny on October 02, 2016, 08:27:29 PM
Buenos Aires give: T.Hickey + N54.
Mexico City give: H.Bennell + N25.

JROO to confirm.

Mexico needed a ruck. We needed a starting forward and Bennell provides that, we have Nicholls who can replace Hickey as our starting ruck. The exchange of picks is to balance out Bennell's injury issues and the risk surrounding his off-field dramas.

Confirmed. Feel I might be overpaying a little here, as rate Harley highly when he's on the field, but you gotta pay to get a quality ruckman.

Berlin trade: Chris Masten
Christchurch trade: Aaron Vandenberg + Pick 39


Haven't traded in a Melbourne player for at least two years now :P but I have big wraps on Vanders, and his M/F flexibility is something I rate for my team next year. If he can stay on the park at play a lot of games consecutively... then who knows! But watch Masten go back to his 90 average next year and make me hate Vanders.

Confirmed.

I still regret trading Masten for Jordan Russell before he ever played a game for Moscow.

Berlin Trade: Pick 55
Tokyo Trade: Jonathon Beech
Think Beech will have a tough time breaking into Adelaide's line up.

Quote from: Boomz on October 04, 2016, 03:46:05 PM
Berlin Trade: Pick 55
Tokyo Trade: Jonathon Beech
Think Beech will have a tough time breaking into Adelaide's line up.

Confirmed.

Thought, why not? This guy has a pretty impressive 2016-SANFL resume. Takin a gamble that Scott Thompson, Jarryd Lyons and Cam Ellis-Yolmen are jump ship to make way for the Beech  8)

New Delhi Give: Wallis + Sheed
Toronto Give: Ziebell + N40

This might come back to bite us in the long term but a short term gain. And for Ada in 12 months gets 2 starters for the price of 1

Ada to confirm

Quote from: Ricochet on October 04, 2016, 10:04:47 PM
New Delhi Give: Wallis + Sheed
Toronto Give: Ziebell + N40

This might come back to bite us in the long term but a short term gain. And for Ada in 12 months gets 2 starters for the price of 1

Ada to confirm

Confirmed.

Playing the long-term game anyway so don't mind waiting it out on a gun kid in Wallis. JZ is a loss, I expect him to get the captaincy at North next year and lift as a result, but I rate Sheed stepping it up after an injury ravaged season.

Toronto give: Dom Sheed + N22
Cairo give: Pearce Hanley + N49

Reason: ...I can play two games at once. Hanley fills the void of JZ in the previous deal while Wallis will be like a new recruit in 2018.

Nige to confirm.

Quote from: Adamant on October 04, 2016, 11:32:25 PM
Toronto give: Dom Sheed + N22
Cairo give: Pearce Hanley + N49

Reason: ...I can play two games at once. Hanley fills the void of JZ in the previous deal while Wallis will be like a new recruit in 2018.

Nige to confirm.

Confirmed.

Obviously Hanley is a really good player and had a down year, but his best is quality and his ceiling is pretty decent so he provides Ada a good option to replace JZ. But of course, Sheed is younger and is a reasonable chance of retaining DPP. If he doesn't, he still adds to our young midfield. The picks balance the trade out nicely given the various qualities of the players involved.

Pacific give: NAT Picks 13 + 32
Buenos Aires give: Andrew Swallow

We're on the board! Trading out a first rounder and another solid pick for Swallow who we hope can be a 90ave player for the next few seasons.

iZander to confirm

Quote from: Jay on October 05, 2016, 06:19:17 PM
Pacific give: NAT Picks 13 + 32
Buenos Aires give: Andrew Swallow

We're on the board! Trading out a first rounder and another solid pick for Swallow who we hope can be a 90ave player for the next few seasons.

iZander to confirm

Oops forgot, confirm

Cape Town gives: Gary Rohan
Rio gives: Johnathan Griffin

Reasoning: Hayden Panettiere > Kate Upton

New coach to confirm.

Quote from: Levi434 on October 06, 2016, 01:23:52 AM
Cape Town gives: Gary Rohan
Rio gives: Johnathan Griffin

Reasoning: Hayden Panettiere > Kate Upton

New coach to confirm.

Confirmed.

Griffin is a ruck and Rohan has red hair, the perfect trade to kick off the rise of Kate 8)

Cairo give: Dougal Howard
PNL give: Pick 51

Looking for another pick and were happy to move Dougal to get it.

HP to confirm.

Quote from: Nige on October 06, 2016, 06:11:00 PM
Cairo give: Dougal Howard
PNL give: Pick 51

Looking for another pick and were happy to move Dougal to get it.

HP to confirm.

Confirm.

We add Dougal despite his ACL since I believe in him to be solid depth once he recovers.

Berlin trade: Josh Smith
Cairo trade: Luke Dunstan

Have a surplus of defenders, and like the potential Dunstan has showed early in his career, despite his injuries.

Quote from: Purple 77 on October 07, 2016, 11:56:21 PM
Berlin trade: Josh Smith
Cairo trade: Luke Dunstan

Have a surplus of defenders, and like the potential Dunstan has showed early in his career, despite his injuries.

Confirmed!

Love Dunstan as a player but need a defender and Smith should be D/M and possibly a future midfield who'll be as good as if not better than Dunstan.

Cape Town give: Darcy Parish + N7 + Billy Longer
PNL give: Sam Naismith + N4 + N27

Fun fact of the day, it is really hard to get rucks these days :P
HP and Daz were willing to part with Naismith who we see as a 70-75avg best 22 ruckman, and that was the first priority since taking over the Kate Upton Cobras. Also get a nice pick upgrade to land one of the big 4, and also think we can get someone decent with 27, and happy to lose Longer to balance out the deal :)

Daz/HP to confirm.

Quote from: GoLions on October 08, 2016, 01:16:58 AM
Cape Town give: Darcy Parish + N7 + Billy Longer
PNL give: Sam Naismith + N4 + N27

Fun fact of the day, it is really hard to get rucks these days :P
HP and Daz were willing to part with Naismith who we see as a 70-75avg best 22 ruckman, and that was the first priority since taking over the Kate Upton Cobras. Also get a nice pick upgrade to land one of the big 4, and also think we can get someone decent with 27, and happy to lose Longer to balance out the deal :)

Daz/HP to confirm.

Confirmed

my Naismith love is massive and i reckon he will/has the potential to really lift his scoring with a full pre season and a full injury free year (something he has not had yet in his career)
butt hen again both HP and i are bombers supporters so the parish love is massive too
difference is we are really lacking in the mids so works better for our team needs
longer who HP and i like but lost his spot to hickey is there to help keep our rucks stocks in tact with 2 older ruckman on our books

Toronto give: N20
Cape Town give: Nathan Hrovat

Reason: I rate The Rat and am banking on him moving clubs where should get a decent run at it.

GL to confirm.

Quote from: Adamant on October 08, 2016, 01:56:58 PM
Toronto give: N20
Cape Town give: Nathan Hrovat

Reason: I rate The Rat and am banking on him moving clubs where should get a decent run at it.

GL to confirm.

Confirmed. I'd rather have a go at the draft instead.

BLOCKBUSTER TRADE FOLKS.

PNL trades: N88 + R31
Cairo trades: J. Batchelor + R. Palmer

Reason: Why not? Cairo wanted some picks and were happy to oblige with these which is what we had available to move.

Wait until Batch goes 95 when he's fully fit and Palmer finally kicks straight to win the Coleman in 2018 (I expect injuries next year #Psychic).

Quote from: Hellopplz on October 08, 2016, 03:42:32 PM
BLOCKBUSTER TRADE FOLKS.

PNL trades: N88 + R31
Cairo trades: J. Batchelor + R. Palmer

Reason: Why not? Cairo wanted some picks and were happy to oblige with these which is what we had available to move.

Wait until Batch goes 95 when he's fully fit and Palmer finally kicks straight to win the Coleman in 2018 (I expect injuries next year #Psychic).

Confirmed!

We like late picks and were probs gonna delist Batch. Palmer's been available of trade period for whatever anyone was willing to offer. We're also gonna have to take like 4 rookie picks or something so getting an upgrade is a-okay with us.

Christchurch trade: Sam Gilbert + pick 37
New York trade: Pick 29

Quote from: meow meow on October 09, 2016, 07:42:52 PM
Christchurch trade: Sam Gilbert + pick 37
New York trade: Pick 29

Confirmed

Meow needs to trim his list, and we need to increase ours so the 2-1 offer is what we need

Welcome aboard Gilberto!

Dublin Trade: Bailey Dale
Rio Trade: Andrew Mackie

with NDS basically announcing his retirement Im now 600k under cap and looking to add some back depth after losing NDS basically. Mackie looks to be on his last legs and worried that he might hang up the boots himself but taking the punt on him being a solid bench option if he can keep up his 70 average. 

Quote from: Holz on October 10, 2016, 01:52:18 PM
Dublin Trade: Bailey Dale
Rio Trade: Andrew Mackie

with NDS basically announcing his retirement Im now 600k under cap and looking to add some back depth after losing NDS basically. Mackie looks to be on his last legs and worried that he might hang up the boots himself but taking the punt on him being a solid bench option if he can keep up his 70 average.

Confirmed.

I have no real use for Mackie and am willing to take a punt on Dale. 2nd Premiership player out of the team though :(

Cobras give: Nakia Cockatoo
Nude Dehli Tigers give: Ben Griffiths + N40

With Vickery gone from the Tigs, we reckon Griffiths will thrive and push for a 75-80 average. Cockatoo is much younger and could easily be better than Griffiths, but with all the youth in this team atm, happy to get a bit more scoring power up forward. N40 to balance out the deal.

Ric/Mr Phants to confirm.

Quote from: GoLions on October 10, 2016, 02:09:55 PM
Cobras give: Nakia Cockatoo
Nude Dehli Tigers give: Ben Griffiths + N40

With Vickery gone from the Tigs, we reckon Griffiths will thrive and push for a 75-80 average. Cockatoo is much younger and could easily be better than Griffiths, but with all the youth in this team atm, happy to get a bit more scoring power up forward. N40 to balance out the deal.

Ric/Mr Phants to confirm.

Yep GL summed it up well, confirmed.

Rico gets his man, and I'm happy enough to punt on Cocka2!

Cobras give: Brodie Smiddy, Savage Shane, N27
Wolves give: Jasper Pittard, Jake Carlisle, Harry McKay

Pittard an elite defender, prefer him over B Smiddy. Savage wasn't too keen on losing, but reckon Carlisle will do well at the Saints as they continue to improve (but won't quite do a Doggies ok meow), and obviously to balance out the upgrade of Smiddy to Pittard. McKay the future of the Blues forward line according to marlon, so happy to give up 27 for him as well.

Ada to confirm

Quote from: GoLions on October 10, 2016, 09:12:54 PM
Cobras give: Brodie Smiddy, Savage Shane, N27
Wolves give: Jasper Pittard, Jake Carlisle, Harry McKay

Pittard an elite defender, prefer him over B Smiddy. Savage wasn't too keen on losing, but reckon Carlisle will do well at the Saints as they continue to improve (but won't quite do a Doggies ok meow), and obviously to balance out the upgrade of Smiddy to Pittard. McKay the future of the Blues forward line according to marlon, so happy to give up 27 for him as well.

Ada to confirm

Confirmed.

Sucks to lose Jasper but this should give our backline a bit more stability.

Quote from: Adamant on October 10, 2016, 09:16:35 PM

Quote from: GoLions on October 10, 2016, 09:12:54 PM
Cobras give: Brodie Smiddy, Savage Shane, N27
Wolves give: Jasper Pittard, Jake Carlisle, Harry McKay

Pittard an elite defender, prefer him over B Smiddy. Savage wasn't too keen on losing, but reckon Carlisle will do well at the Saints as they continue to improve (but won't quite do a Doggies ok meow), and obviously to balance out the upgrade of Smiddy to Pittard. McKay the future of the Blues forward line according to marlon, so happy to give up 27 for him as well.

Ada to confirm

Confirmed.

Sucks to lose Jasper but this should give our backline a bit more stability.

Amending this trade as I don't have 27 now

Cobras give: Brodie Smith, Shane Savage,  N33
Wolves give: Jasper Pittard, Jake Carlisle,  N58, R20

Ada to confirm

Quote from: GoLions on October 12, 2016, 11:03:07 AM

Quote from: Adamant on October 10, 2016, 09:16:35 PM

Quote from: GoLions on October 10, 2016, 09:12:54 PM
Cobras give: Brodie Smiddy, Savage Shane, N27
Wolves give: Jasper Pittard, Jake Carlisle, Harry McKay

Pittard an elite defender, prefer him over B Smiddy. Savage wasn't too keen on losing, but reckon Carlisle will do well at the Saints as they continue to improve (but won't quite do a Doggies ok meow), and obviously to balance out the upgrade of Smiddy to Pittard. McKay the future of the Blues forward line according to marlon, so happy to give up 27 for him as well.

Ada to confirm

Confirmed.

Sucks to lose Jasper but this should give our backline a bit more stability.

Amending this trade as I don't have 27 now

Cobras give: Brodie Smith, Shane Savage,  N33
Wolves give: Jasper Pittard, Jake Carlisle,  N58, R20

Ada to confirm

Yep confirmed.

Thanks to GL for the very easy negotiations. :)

Cape Town give: Nick Graham, Sam Reid, N40
New York give: Sam Collins, N21

Graham is a depth mid for us which we were happy to lose for a pick upgrade. Reid has shown he can score, but prefer Collins in defence now that we have Griffiths and possibly Carlisle keeping fwd status. New York get handy forward and mid depth in Graham and Reid, and were happy to drop a depth defender to do so.

RD/AK to confirm

Christchurch trade: Luke Breust + Tory Dickson
Mexico City trade: Daniel Wells + pick 16

Confirmed. Need fwds

Quote from: GoLions on October 12, 2016, 01:57:14 PM
Cape Town give: Nick Graham, Sam Reid, N40
New York give: Sam Collins, N21

Graham is a depth mid for us which we were happy to lose for a pick upgrade. Reid has shown he can score, but prefer Collins in defence now that we have Griffiths and possibly Carlisle keeping fwd status. New York get handy forward and mid depth in Graham and Reid, and were happy to drop a depth defender to do so.

RD/AK to confirm

Confirmed. Reid is injury prone but talented and we need another depth forward now McGlynn has retired.

Graham with time has ability and happy to take a punt on him

Wolves trade: National Pick 33 + National Pick 49
Jaguars trade: Shane Kersten

Kersten is my homie, lover? and friend. Exactly why I should trade him for some picks. Apparently Adamant is a Freo fan also. I think Kersten has some powtential but I need to drink in the picks mannnnnn.

Adamant to confirm this trade.

Quote from: Levi434 on October 12, 2016, 07:52:08 PM
Wolves trade: National Pick 33 + National Pick 49
Jaguars trade: Shane Kersten

Kersten is my homie, lover? and friend. Exactly why I should trade him for some picks. Apparently Adamant is a Freo fan also. I think Kersten has some powtential but I need to drink in the picks mannnnnn.

Adamant to confirm this trade.

Confirmed.

Need to add some forward depth and Kersten fits the bill. Getting another (soon-to-be) Docker doesn't hurt either.

Mexico City give: Tory Dickson
Seoul give: Cameron Sutcliffe

JB to confirm

Quote from: JROO8 on October 12, 2016, 10:27:08 PM
Mexico City give: Tory Dickson
Seoul give: Cameron Sutcliffe

JB to confirm

Confirmed, need some forward depth.

Mexico City give: Shaun Hampson, Ivan Maric, Tom Papley, Cameron Sutcliffe, Jesse Palmer + Pick 35
Cape Town give: Billy Longer, Trent McKenzie, Jarryn Geary, George Horlin-Smith, Lewis Pierce + Picks 26, 62

Looking to complete my Saints rucks, means I have to get rid of Tigers in the process. McKenzie and Geary as back up D4 in case Jimmy decides to retire.

GL to confirm.

Quote from: JROO8 on October 12, 2016, 10:32:24 PM
Mexico City give: Shaun Hampson, Ivan Maric, Tom Papley, Cameron Sutcliffe, Jesse Palmer + Pick 35
Cape Town give: Billy Longer, Trent McKenzie, Jarryn Geary, George Horlin-Smith, Lewis Pierce + Picks 26, 62

Looking to complete my Saints rucks, means I have to get rid of Tigers in the process. McKenzie and Geary as back up D4 in case Jimmy decides to retire.

GL to confirm.

Confirmed.

I get starting rucks, big fan of the Papsmear which basically replaces Reid from the other deal with NY, and don't mind Sutcliffe either.

Chumps is gonna cry himself to sleep tonight...

Cobras give: Darcy Parish
Wolves give: N3

So Ada chucked this curveball at me, and boy oh boy wowee. Parish is a gun and already has a year in the system. However, I reckon the top 4 (fantasy) picks this year can be just as good as Darcy, if not better.

Ada to confirm

Quote from: GoLions on October 12, 2016, 11:40:43 PM
Chumps is gonna cry himself to sleep tonight...

Cobras give: Darcy Parish
Wolves give: N3

So Ada chucked this curveball at me, and boy oh boy wowee. Parish is a gun and already has a year in the system. However, I reckon the top 4 (fantasy) picks this year can be just as good as Darcy, if not better.

Ada to confirm

Confirmed.

I wanted Parish last year but took Hopper instead, so stoked to now have both. 8) Not sure how he will fare with the returning Essendon players and as GL said the top 4 this year is very, very good but going to lock in the safety of DP.

Cobras give: Lukas Webb + N21
Reindeers give: N17

PNL like Webb, I like a pick upgrade. HP/Daz to confirm

Quote from: GoLions on October 13, 2016, 11:10:58 PM
Cobras give: Lukas Webb + N21
Reindeers give: N17

PNL like Webb, I like a pick upgrade. HP/Daz to confirm

Confirmed.

We do like Webb and could use some midfield depth. Wanted to keep 17 for a certain player but will cross my fingers and hope he slides to 21 now.

Cobras give: R20 + R24
Reindeers give: R14

I won't be using all these rookie picks and PNL need one extra, so an easy trade for both sides here!

HP/Daz to confirm

Quote from: GoLions on October 15, 2016, 12:44:19 AM
Cobras give: R20 + R24
Reindeers give: R14

I won't be using all these rookie picks and PNL need one extra, so an easy trade for both sides here!

HP/Daz to confirm

confirmed
quite happy to lose some spots for the extra pick

Christchurch trade: Jobe Watson + pick 29 + PSD pick 8
Berlin trade: Picks 14 + 39

Quote from: meow meow on October 15, 2016, 09:12:19 PM
Christchurch trade: Jobe Watson + pick 29 + PSD pick 8
Berlin trade: Picks 14 + 39

Confirm-da-mondo

Must. Win. 2017. Premiership.

But seriously, I tried long and hard at trying to find a decent scoring mid, and to no avail. Watson was literally the only 1 or 2 on the market that is just that.

Berlin trade: Jordan Murdoch + Nick Suban
Pacific trade: Pick 50

Need cap relief.

Quote from: Purple 77 on October 17, 2016, 10:24:24 AM
Berlin trade: Jordan Murdoch + Nick Suban
Pacific trade: Pick 50

Need cap relief.

Confirmed.     Helps Berlin with their Cap and adds some more depth to our list..

Cripps' trades: National Pick 33 + National Pick 49
Fyfe's trade: National Pick 29

Hogan's BFF to confirm.

Quote from: Levi434 on October 18, 2016, 12:16:43 PM
Cripps' trades: National Pick 33 + National Pick 49
Fyfe's trade: National Pick 29

Hogan's BFF to confirm.

Haha, well put!

With my list trimmings, these late picks are necessary and REALLY fun come draft time

Berlin trade: Darren Minchington, Jaden McGrath + Pick 63
PNL trade: Pick 45

Wasn't too keen at losing Pick 63, but it looks like I might not even use it I guess. Losing Minchington's cap space basically solves my cap issues, assuming Petrie & Fisher retire.

Quote from: Purple 77 on October 19, 2016, 03:46:07 PM
Berlin trade: Darren Minchington, Jaden McGrath + Pick 63
PNL trade: Pick 45

Wasn't too keen at losing Pick 63, but it looks like I might not even use it I guess. Losing Minchington's cap space basically solves my cap issues, assuming Petrie & Fisher retire.

Confirmed.

Some more punts to consdier on our ever-expanding list. We liked #45 but I liked Minchington as some mid depth and Daz likes McGrath despite past 2 years of injuries.

Toronto give: Tom Ruggles
Tokyo give: Jack Grimes + N70

Reason: Good chance I could be losing Ruggles for next to nothing here but going to take a punt on one of the biggest fantasy teases getting picked up.

Boomz to confirm.

Christchurch trade: Jack Trengove
New York trade: NAT Pick 40

Meow to confirm

Confirmed. Need points for my Academy selections.

Christchurch trade: Will Minson
Rio trade: Rookie Pick 18

Meow to confirm.

Confirmed. He's not the only Ruckman that I need anymore.

Quote from: Adamant on October 20, 2016, 08:10:50 PM
Toronto give: Tom Ruggles
Tokyo give: Jack Grimes + N70

Reason: Good chance I could be losing Ruggles for next to nothing here but going to take a punt on one of the biggest fantasy teases getting picked up.

Boomz to confirm.

Confirmed - Expect Grimes will get picked up but no guarantee and I like Ruggles.

Moscow Get: Jarrod Garlett, N34
PNL Get: Paul Seedsman, N42

Injecting another young forward into the side, surely one of them will become something! Pick exchange to even things up.

HP/Daz to confirm.

Quote from: Torpedo10 on October 23, 2016, 05:00:04 PM
Moscow Get: Jarrod Garlett, N34
PNL Get: Paul Seedsman, N42

Injecting another young forward into the side, surely one of them will become something! Pick exchange to even things up.

HP/Daz to confirm.

Confirmed.

Although we like Garlett, we had to take the hit with a forward to inject another mid/back into the team with some potential. The pick upgrade to Moscow is to even it up.

Dublin Trade: Pick 47
Tokyo Trade: Sam Durdin.

Sam was taken pick 43 a few years back and hasnt played a gmae but has had some development so pretty much picking him up for what he was valued at when drafted.

also pretty happy that i have been able to Get Durdin, Preuss, Vickers Willis, Hansen, Nielson.

with Goldy Daw Preuss Durdin I should have no ruck problems.

Quote from: Holz on October 25, 2016, 02:59:57 PM
Dublin Trade: Pick 47
Tokyo Trade: Sam Durdin.

Sam was taken pick 43 a few years back and hasnt played a gmae but has had some development so pretty much picking him up for what he was valued at when drafted.

also pretty happy that i have been able to Get Durdin, Preuss, Vickers Willis, Hansen, Nielson.

with Goldy Daw Preuss Durdin I should have no ruck problems.

Confirmed - Don't really need Durdin & he's a fair way back. Pick 47 will be handy.

Buenos Aires trade: picks 12 + 13
Christchurch trade: picks 14 + 16 + 18

Quote from: meow meow on October 28, 2016, 03:05:16 AM
Buenos Aires trade: picks 12 + 13
Christchurch trade: picks 14 + 16 + 18

Confirm
Dillos has reasonably poor depth so this helps out on that front.

New York trade: Tom Bellchambers + Matt Rosa + Nick Graham + Pick 37
Moscow trade: David Armitage + Zachary Clarke + Pick 60

With NN out for 12 months Moscow needs a ruck and with Sandi playing on Clarke will be in and out of the side as his career history suggests. Belly also has fwd status which Clarke won't have

Belly's JS and fwd status over Clarke, plus Rosa a 30 year old 80 avg, good young prospect in Graham who we both rate and 37 for 28 year old Arma who we see as a 90+ mid balances it all out and Moscow finally get a starting ruck to cover while NN is out

Torp/Jukes to confirm

Quote from: RaisyDaisy on October 28, 2016, 08:31:35 AM
New York trade: Tom Bellchambers + Matt Rosa + Nick Graham + Pick 37
Moscow trade: David Armitage + Zachary Clarke + Pick 60

With NN out for 12 months Moscow needs a ruck and with Sandi playing on Clarke will be in and out of the side as his career history suggests. Belly also has fwd status which Clarke won't have

Belly's JS and fwd status over Clarke, plus Rosa a 30 year old 80 avg, good young prospect in Graham who we both rate and 37 for 28 year old Arma who we see as a 90+ mid balances it all out and Moscow finally get a starting ruck to cover while NN is out

Torp/Jukes to confirm

Confirmed!

I see Belly as a more solid ruck for 2017, despite a lesser ceiling. Hopefully he can play most games! New York wanted another Best 15 player and Armo was that, giving up some of their depth for him.

New York trade: Nat Pick 57
Cape Town trade: NAT Pick 58 + NAT Pick 80

We just needed a 2-1 to get our list to 40

GL to confirm

Quote from: RaisyDaisy on October 29, 2016, 04:54:10 PM
New York trade: Nat Pick 57
Cape Town trade: NAT Pick 58 + NAT Pick 80

We just needed a 2-1 to get our list to 40

GL to confirm

Confirmed. I don't need 80 for anything. After fierce negotiations over whether I could get 56 or 57, I decided to be the gentleman and settle for 57 ;)

PNL Trade: NAT Picks 41, 42, 63
Tokyo Trade: Ricky Henderson + Dean Gore + 47 NAT

Gore gone backwards, Hendo no guarantee to get many games at the Hawks & wanted a few more picks. HP/Daz to confirm.

Quote from: Boomz on November 02, 2016, 03:18:57 PM
PNL Trade: NAT Picks 41, 42, 63
Tokyo Trade: Ricky Henderson + Dean Gore + 47 NAT

Gore gone backwards, Hendo no guarantee to get many games at the Hawks & wanted a few more picks. HP/Daz to confirm.

Confirmed.

We have to get some depth in. Think Gore has some potential while Hendo could be handy if he gets games but need to see. The additional picks even it out considering they are no certainty to get games.

Dublin Trade: Matt kennedy + Josh Schace + Rueben William + Andrew Mackie + Sam Frost
Dublin Get: Nathan Jones + Troy Menzel + Pick 33 + Pick 50

PNL trade: Nathan  Jones + Troy Menzel
PNL get: Matt kennedy + Josh Schace + Rueben William

Berlin trade: Pick 33 + Pick 50
Berlin Get:  Andrew Mackie + Sam Frost


Reason: possibly an overpay but jones is an upgrade on jack and finally have mid depth. Jones is 29 soon but should pump out a 95ish

Menzel still has talent which I hope he doesnt waste

Mackie I love with enright and bartel gone but i need cap space so im droping him with Frost for picks to stack up in the draft.

There you go big trade to end the year.

*BTW, this is basically two separate deals combined for Holz, it's just he doesn't want one passing without the other passing for cap reasons.*

Confirmed. Mackie will feel at home at my retirement village.

Quote from: Purple 77 on November 04, 2016, 11:54:50 AM
*BTW, this is basically two separate deals combined for Holz, it's just he doesn't want one passing without the other passing for cap reasons.*

Confirmed. Mackie will feel at home at my retirement village.

the biggest reason this deal is great for me is the whole team is 29 or under, which im very happy with.

Confirmed.

We rate Schache and Kennedy and they'll come in handy with our other youngsters in 2-3 years. Also have a few who should move midfield in the near future so some forward backup in Schache is needed long term. We rate Menzel and only traded him last year, so only way Holz could get him was with Reuben who is still a project for the Lions but willing to wait him out and see 8).

Berlin trade: Rookie Pick 7
Cape Town trade: Joel Smith + Rookie Pick 14

I traded Josh, so this was kinda necessary.

Quote from: Purple 77 on November 05, 2016, 04:27:31 PM
Berlin trade: Rookie Pick 7
Cape Town trade: Joel Smith + Rookie Pick 14

I traded Josh, so this was kinda necessary.

Confirmed. Purps asked about Smiddy, and I was happy to trade for a rookie pick upgrade.

Christchurch trade: Rookie #8
Cape Town trade: Pick #57

Quote from: meow meow on November 05, 2016, 06:52:37 PM
Christchurch trade: Rookie #8
Cape Town trade: Pick #57

Confirmed. Won't be using N57 and meow offered R8 for it, which I was happy to do.

Christchurch trade: Rookie #15
Pacific trade: Pick #68

Quote from: meow meow on November 08, 2016, 10:25:54 PM
Christchurch trade: Rookie #15
Pacific trade: Pick #68

Confirmed.

NDT Give: Rookie Pick #17
Cairo Give: PSD #13

Nige to confirm

Quote from: Ricochet on November 11, 2016, 05:19:44 PM
NDT Give: Rookie Pick #17
Cairo Give: PSD #13

Nige to confirm

According to my calculations, we won't be able to use PSD13 and need to use at least two rookie picks. Confirmed.

NDT Give: Rookie #35
PNL Give: PSD #32

Similar to the above, with PNL unlikely to use that PSD pick

HP to confirm

Quote from: Ricochet on November 11, 2016, 05:58:13 PM
NDT Give: Rookie #35
PNL Give: PSD #32

Similar to the above, with PNL unlikely to use that PSD pick

HP to confirm

Confirmed.

Not likely to use the PSD, and on the off-chance we have to have 5 rookies, the pick is higher than our next one at 50.

Berlin give: Daniel Talia
Moscow Give: Ryan Bastinac

The Coaches Award winner for the GOAT, seems fair to me.

Purple to confirm!

Pacific give:  #86+ PSD#12
Dublin give:  R#16

Holz to confirm.

Quote from: Torpedo10 on November 12, 2016, 11:19:10 PM
Berlin give: Daniel Talia
Moscow Give: Ryan Bastinac

The Coaches Award winner for the GOAT, seems fair to me.

Purple to confirm!

Confirmed. Mackie gave me surplus defensive depth, so thought I'd sure up my midfield depth.

Quote from: upthemaidens on November 13, 2016, 12:49:51 PM
Pacific give:  #86+ PSD#12
Dublin give:  R#16

Holz to confirm.

Confirmed.

I hate Rookies i wish we didn't have them.

Pendles + Gorringe + N32

for

Boak, Taylor Walker, Parish

Ada to confirm

Quote from: iZander on November 17, 2016, 11:14:39 AM
Pendles + Gorringe + N32

for

Boak, Taylor Walker, Parish

Ada to confirm

Confirmed.

Rhymes with orange is a star and Pendles isn't too bad either.

Dublin trade: Joel Selwood + NAT Pick 50 + NAT Pick 86 + NAT Pick 90
New York trade: Tom McDonald + Daniel Menzel + Jack Trengove + NAT Pick 44

Jelwood being one of the elite mids of the comp means we had to pay up to get a genuine captain option

TMac averaged 96 in 2015, started a little slowish in 2016 but from Round 8 to 23 (15 games) averaged 99. Just turned only 24 last month with back to back 90+ averages and hasn't missed a game so we value him extremely high as a defender (And we paid a lot for him last year too). For his age group, only Docherty is worth more

Menzel has had his injuries, but it looks like he has finally turned things around playing most of 2016 for an average of 82 which is starting quality for WXV

Trengove should be given an opportunity and the picks just ensure it's a 4 for 4 deal to keep team numbers in balance

We get a quality captain and Dublin get's two young starters

Holz to confirm

Quote from: RaisyDaisy on November 17, 2016, 03:26:12 PM
Dublin trade: Joel Selwood + NAT Pick 50 + NAT Pick 86 + NAT Pick 90
New York trade: Tom McDonald + Daniel Menzel + Jack Trengove + NAT Pick 44

Jelwood being one of the elite mids of the comp means we had to pay up to get a genuine captain option

TMac averaged 96 in 2015, started a little slowish in 2016 but from Round 8 to 23 (15 games) averaged 99. Just turned only 24 last month with back to back 90+ averages and hasn't missed a game so we value him extremely high as a defender (And we paid a lot for him last year too). For his age group, only Docherty is worth more

Menzel has had his injuries, but it looks like he has finally turned things around playing most of 2016 for an average of 82 which is starting quality for WXV

Trengove should be given an opportunity and the picks just ensure it's a 4 for 4 deal to keep team numbers in balance

We get a quality captain and Dublin get's two young starters

Holz to confirm

Confirm.

I had two weaknesses D4, F4 and as a result D5, F5

Selwood is a legend and there will be a big post on him. The most famous Dublin player ever.

Tmac Solves the D4 issue and it means if yarran misses ill be ok, my bench is very very strong with Weits and Omac who are probably a year away from being starters.

Forward had major issues with Daw on field, menzel is high risk high reward. He misses and im playing Daw like i was anyway. He plays and i might have a 85 F4.

Selwood averaged 116 in the second half of the year getting used to Danger i think he will go 115, and be a perma captain but so to will Goldy, Treloar. Kieran Jack shouldnt rot on the bench.

Trengove and the pick upgrade helps my mid bench.

DUBLIN trade: Dan Menzel + 33 + 44
berlin trade: Stephen Hill + 49

Reason: while i need menzel and this could hurt me bad, my goal was always to have such a solid mid it could cover any weakness. Hill adds that cover so i shpuld always have 6 gun mids.

The picks hurt as i was hoping to pick up a guy i rated top 15 with that pick.

Big 3-way trade!

Cobras trade: Billy Smedts + PSD24
Cobras get: Lachie Hansen

Dublin trade: Lachie Hansen
Dublin get: N47 + PSD24

PNL trade: N47
PNL get: Billy Smedts

Depth and pick swaps. I couldn't do them in two separate trades cause of the cap #scrapthecap

Holz and Daz/HP to confirm

Quote from: GoLions on November 18, 2016, 01:04:03 AM
Big 3-way trade!

Cobras trade: Billy Smedts + PSD24
Cobras get: Lachie Hansen

Dublin trade: Lachie Hansen
Dublin get: N47 + PSD24

PNL trade: N47
PNL get: Billy Smedts

Depth and pick swaps. I couldn't do them in two separate trades cause of the cap #scrapthecap

Holz and Daz/HP to confirm

Confirmed.

Daz likes Smedts even before he moved and could help his production at blues. We may not have used 47 so don't mind unloading it to grab a guy we like.

Quote from: Hellopplz on November 18, 2016, 01:16:24 AM

Quote from: GoLions on November 18, 2016, 01:04:03 AM
Big 3-way trade!

Cobras trade: Billy Smedts + PSD24
Cobras get: Lachie Hansen

Dublin trade: Lachie Hansen
Dublin get: N47 + PSD24

PNL trade: N47
PNL get: Billy Smedts

Depth and pick swaps. I couldn't do them in two separate trades cause of the cap #scrapthecap

Holz and Daz/HP to confirm

Confirmed.

Daz likes Smedts even before he moved and could help his production at blues. We may not have used 47 so don't mind unloading it to grab a guy we like.

Yep

Quote from: Holz on November 18, 2016, 12:18:15 AM
DUBLIN trade: Dan Menzel + 33 + 44
berlin trade: Stephen Hill + 49

Reason: while i need menzel and this could hurt me bad, my goal was always to have such a solid mid it could cover any weakness. Hill adds that cover so i shpuld always have 6 gun mids.

The picks hurt as i was hoping to pick up a guy i rated top 15 with that pick.

Confirmed. I think I've got enough quality depth on every line now to really challenge next year. I'm now finally content with my forward line.

New York Trades: Shaun Grigg
Rio Trades: Robbie Tarrant


ROOBBIIEEE T! My boy  :'( So sad to see you go.

RD to confirm.

Quote from: Levi434 on November 18, 2016, 12:00:14 PM
New York Trades: Shaun Grigg
Rio Trades: Robbie Tarrant


ROOBBIIEEE T! My boy  :'( So sad to see you go.

RD to confirm.

Confirmed

Levi was looking for a 90+ mid and we were looking for a defender to replace TMac

Grigg a lot more proven, but Tarrant being def makes it even

Dublin: Rookie 34 + PSD24 
Rio: PSD18

Reason:

Rookies are junk.

Quote from: Holz on November 18, 2016, 12:26:41 PM
Dublin: Rookie 34
Rio:  PSD24 for PSD18

Reason:

Rookies are junk.

Confirmed

Correct trade is:
Dublin: Rook 34 + PSD 24
Rio: PSD 18

Toronto Trade: Rookie Pick 38
Rio Trade: Cam Pedersen + Rookie Pick 72

Pedersen takes up a ton of cap for some reason. Probably cause he is a 70ave gun forward and will help the Wolves to top 8 next year.

Quote from: Levi434 on November 18, 2016, 03:09:30 PM
Toronto Trade: Rookie Pick 38
Rio Trade: Cam Pedersen + Rookie Pick 72

Pedersen takes up a ton of cap for some reason. Probably cause he is a 70ave gun forward and will help the Wolves to top 8 next year.

Confirmed.

Pedo returns to his home!

Berlin trade: Rookie Pick 14
Moscow trade: PSD Pick 4

Torp/Jukes to confirm

Toronto give: Riley Bonner + PSD20
Buenos Aires give: Richard Douglas + N67

Reason: Desperately needed a forward. Douglas is old but he'll give me a serviceable 80 for a few seasons.

iZander to confirm.

Quote from: Adamant on November 19, 2016, 12:03:22 AM
Toronto give: Riley Bonner + PSD20
Buenos Aires give: Richard Douglas + N67

Reason: Desperately needed a forward. Douglas is old but he'll give me a serviceable 80 for a few seasons.

iZander to confirm.

Confirm

Quote from: Purple 77 on November 19, 2016, 12:03:00 AM
Berlin trade: Rookie Pick 14
Moscow trade: PSD Pick 4

Torp/Jukes to confirm

Confirmed.

We can't used PSD 4, and we can use Rook 14. Simple as that.

Toronto give: David Astbury
Moscow give: Angus Monfries + N78

Torp to confirm.

Quote from: Adamant on November 19, 2016, 12:28:56 AM
Toronto give: David Astbury
Moscow give: Angus Monfries + N78

Torp to confirm.

Confirmed.

Was trying all day for another deal, but I gotta do it for this damn cap :P

Berlin trade: Kyle Cheney
Pacific trade: Joel Hamling + Rookie Pick 30

With no discussions whatsoever

Berlin trade: Pick 44 + Pick 45
Christchurch trade: Pick 40 + Pick 68

Moscow Give: Tom Lee
Christchurch Give: Pick 39

Keen Meow?

Quote from: Purple 77 on November 19, 2016, 12:51:21 AM
Was trying all day for another deal, but I gotta do it for this damn cap :P

Berlin trade: Kyle Cheney
Pacific trade: Joel Hamling + Rookie Pick 30

Confirmed.

Quote from: Purple 77 on November 19, 2016, 12:53:27 AM
With no discussions whatsoever

Berlin trade: Pick 44 + Pick 45
Christchurch trade: Pick 40 + Pick 68

Confirmed

Quote from: Torpedo10 on November 19, 2016, 12:56:06 AM
Moscow Give: Tom Lee
Christchurch Give: Pick 39

Keen Meow?

No thanks Torp