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Title: Tom Rockliff
Post by: Ringo on June 28, 2016, 09:54:32 AM
http://www.couriermail.com.au/sport/afl/teams/brisbane/brisbane-captain-tom-rockliff-pulls--contract-proposal-he-made-to-the-lions-off-the-table/news-story/a3620679ca8679812858ff37e5bbcdf6

"TOM Rockliff’s future is up in the air after it emerged the Lions skipper has pulled a contract proposal he’d made to Brisbane off the table.

Relationships between club and captain are not strained and both parties say they want to strike a new deal but they are currently miles apart on the 26-year-old’s value.

Rockliff has a year to run on his existing deal, but his manager approached the club earlier in the year after Daniel Rich and Dayne Zorko were given lucrative long-term extensions, looking for a new five year deal, believed to be worth about $4 million.

But Brisbane baulked at the price and when negotiations stalled Rockliff became frustrated and withdrew his proposal."

First paragraphs from todays Courier mail - Rocky has said should not be a sign that he wanted out of Brisbane though. Rocky contracted to end of next year.

Concern is there though. Two schools of thought on this:
One is do we trade Rocky while he is close to peak and get currency for him. There is the concern that he is not a strong leader.
Two we need him for marketing purposes and should do our best to retain him.

My thoughts are is length of term 5 years may be the sticking point and trust we can resolve the situation.
Title: Re: Tom Rockliff
Post by: Nige on June 28, 2016, 10:09:26 AM
I honestly think Brisbane losing Rocky would be disastrous.
Title: Re: Tom Rockliff
Post by: Ricochet on June 28, 2016, 10:18:09 AM
Quote from: Ringo on June 28, 2016, 09:54:32 AM
Concern is there though. Two schools of thought on this:
One is do we trade Rocky while he is close to peak and get currency for him. There is the concern that he is not a strong leader.
Have to keep him imo. Brissie can't complain about boys wanting to go home and leave Brisbane, only to not look after their captain and push him out
Title: Re: Tom Rockliff
Post by: Big Mac on June 28, 2016, 12:31:37 PM
4 mil over 5 is about right I'd think
Title: Re: Tom Rockliff
Post by: meow meow on June 28, 2016, 12:54:16 PM
He's not worth $800k a year. No way.
Title: Re: Tom Rockliff
Post by: RaisyDaisy on June 28, 2016, 01:27:32 PM
Quote from: meow meow on June 28, 2016, 12:54:16 PM
He's not worth $800k a year. No way.

Agree

Fantasy Coaches froth over him, because he's a pig but he doesn't really dominate games and make a massive difference

When you think of the guns of the comp like Ablett, Pendles, Danger, Hanners etc etc he's not in their league IMO

That being said, he is one of their best players and the captain so they need to keep him, and with so many spuds in that side the salary cap shouldn't be a problem so he shouldn't have a problem getting 4M over 5

5-600k a year at another club would be about right, but at Brisbane, and being the captain I guess 800k is what he can demand
Title: Re: Tom Rockliff
Post by: nrich102 on June 28, 2016, 01:44:17 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on June 28, 2016, 10:18:09 AM
Quote from: Ringo on June 28, 2016, 09:54:32 AM
Concern is there though. Two schools of thought on this:
One is do we trade Rocky while he is close to peak and get currency for him. There is the concern that he is not a strong leader.
Have to keep him imo. Brissie can't complain about boys wanting to go home and leave Brisbane, only to not look after their captain and push him out
*Cough* Jed Adcock *Cough*
Title: Re: Tom Rockliff
Post by: Ringo on June 28, 2016, 02:32:00 PM
Lets see what happens. When negotiations start you usually start high and agree $800k is probably a bit much when compared to Rich's 5 year deal at $600k and Zorko's 4 year deal at $500k. $650/700k probably more realistic.
Title: Re: Tom Rockliff
Post by: Toga on June 28, 2016, 02:49:44 PM
I also agree that it'd be a disaster for him to leave Brisbane BUT;

Quote from: RaisyDaisy on June 28, 2016, 01:27:32 PM
Quote from: meow meow on June 28, 2016, 12:54:16 PM
He's not worth $800k a year. No way.

Agree

Fantasy Coaches froth over him, because he's a pig but he doesn't really dominate games and make a massive difference

When you think of the guns of the comp like Ablett, Pendles, Danger, Hanners etc etc he's not in their league IMO

But you're absolutely right here - glaring stat I saw in the wake of the weekend was at half time, Rocky and Dusty Martin had 16 possessions a piece. Dusty had clocked up 360-odd metres gained, Rocky? 30m

While he's a superstar in the fantasy world he really has a bit of improvement to be done if he wants to be paid $800K a year.
Title: Re: Tom Rockliff
Post by: strikes91 on June 29, 2016, 12:20:24 AM
Metres gained is a very overated stat. Rocky lost 30m from 1 kick when we eventually switched it and led to a hipwood goal. Club needs to work out a deal, we cannot afford to lose him. Taking out his injurie affected matches he's averaging over 30 disposals, 14 contested and 9 tackles a match. Work rate that no one in the club has at the moment other than Mitch Robbo and Zorko.
Title: Re: Tom Rockliff
Post by: T Dog on June 29, 2016, 12:50:24 PM
The Pies have history of trading in Brisbane players... perhaps a 2nd rd draft pick and Trav Cloke in a deal for Rocky?
:o You heard it here 1st
Title: Re: Tom Rockliff
Post by: _wato on June 29, 2016, 02:33:00 PM
Rich 3mill/5
Zorko 2mill/4

Think those contracts should be swapped around lol as Rich ain't worth that much, and Rocky deffs worth 4mill/5 if so
Title: Re: Tom Rockliff
Post by: iZander on June 29, 2016, 03:00:50 PM
Quote from: _wato on June 29, 2016, 02:33:00 PM
Rich 3mill/5
Zorko 2mill/4

Think those contracts should be swapped around lol as Rich ain't worth that much, and Rocky deffs worth 4mill/5 if so
These contracts are for AFL not your fantasy team ;)
Title: Re: Tom Rockliff
Post by: Big Mac on June 29, 2016, 03:21:41 PM
Quote from: iZander on June 29, 2016, 03:00:50 PM
Quote from: _wato on June 29, 2016, 02:33:00 PM
Rich 3mill/5
Zorko 2mill/4

Think those contracts should be swapped around lol as Rich ain't worth that much, and Rocky deffs worth 4mill/5 if so
These contracts are for AFL not your fantasy team ;)

Rich surely not worth 600k

I'd have him at about 350k, then maybe a little extra to get him to stick around at a shower club
Title: Re: Tom Rockliff
Post by: RaisyDaisy on June 29, 2016, 03:23:52 PM
If Rocky gets 800k, then Zorko is getting shafted with 500k

Title: Re: Tom Rockliff
Post by: Capper on June 29, 2016, 03:25:34 PM
Haven't watched any Lions games this year, is Rocky playing just for his stats? Sideways kicks, uncontested possessions?
Title: Re: Tom Rockliff
Post by: nrich102 on June 29, 2016, 03:29:57 PM
Quote from: Capper on June 29, 2016, 03:25:34 PM
Haven't watched any Lions games this year, is Rocky playing just for his stats? Sideways kicks, uncontested possessions?
People are saying he is, but I don't think he does.
Title: Re: Tom Rockliff
Post by: meow meow on June 29, 2016, 03:36:53 PM
I've been a Rocky critic for a while but I think this year he's playing a lot better. His tackles are almost useless but his disposals are generally productive. I still think that when Beams returns that Tom should be played forward like Swan. That's 40 goals right there, something the Lions struggle with. Rocky would still pick up 25 touches.
Title: Re: Tom Rockliff
Post by: powersuperkents on July 03, 2016, 11:53:52 PM
Quote from: T Dog on June 29, 2016, 12:50:24 PM
The Pies have history of trading in Brisbane players... perhaps a 2nd rd draft pick and Trav Cloke in a deal for Rocky?
:o You heard it here 1st
Do that... and you'll still have more midfielders than a team needs  :P

#GetADEFENDER #GetAFORWARD
Title: Re: Tom Rockliff
Post by: kilbluff1985 on July 29, 2016, 08:11:16 PM
looks like he is having a house built i assume in Brisbane https://twitter.com/rockwiz38/status/758952819944599552?lang=en
Title: Re: Tom Rockliff
Post by: kilbluff1985 on August 08, 2016, 02:44:56 PM
how do u guys feel about him staying or going now
Title: Re: Tom Rockliff
Post by: Ringo on August 08, 2016, 03:02:38 PM
Always knew he was building a house KB which was one of the reasons I was not worried too much.  However you can never say never though still a remote possibility.
Title: Re: Tom Rockliff
Post by: strikes91 on August 11, 2016, 08:37:15 PM
Taking his word when he said he couldn't see himself leaving. Hope he stays. Really want to see him and Beams get some games together.
Title: Re: Tom Rockliff
Post by: strikes91 on August 30, 2016, 03:59:54 PM
Not wanted by the club, not going to walk.

Explosive times coming up.
Title: Re: Tom Rockliff
Post by: kilbluff1985 on August 30, 2016, 04:53:02 PM
Quote from: strikes91 on August 30, 2016, 03:59:54 PM
Not wanted by the club, not going to walk.

Explosive times coming up.

this been announced or inside info?
Title: Re: Tom Rockliff
Post by: strikes91 on August 30, 2016, 05:08:06 PM
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on August 30, 2016, 04:53:02 PM
Quote from: strikes91 on August 30, 2016, 03:59:54 PM
Not wanted by the club, not going to walk.

Explosive times coming up.

this been announced or inside info?

It's on big footy where posters claim they know inside goss, i'm not a member so I haven't asked if it's legit. I would hope not because I don't seem the point of trading a highly rated senior.
Title: Re: Tom Rockliff
Post by: Ringo on August 30, 2016, 05:11:04 PM
Have not heard officially but Swanny and the CEO did not sound overly convincing when asked about Rockliffs position. It is obvious he does not want to leave as he is building a house. If there was an alternate choice I would say relieve him of captaincy but there is no obvious one apart from Zorko.
Title: Re: Tom Rockliff
Post by: kilbluff1985 on August 30, 2016, 05:21:30 PM
if he requested a trade would Brisbane take pick 1?
Title: Re: Tom Rockliff
Post by: Ringo on August 30, 2016, 05:26:42 PM
Can not see him requesting a trade though. Club may force the issue if it wants to but would be foolish to do so given the anger being directed to club and directors at the moment.
Title: Re: Tom Rockliff
Post by: strikes91 on August 30, 2016, 05:38:07 PM
Quote from: Ringo on August 30, 2016, 05:11:04 PM
Have not heard officially but Swanny and the CEO did not sound overly convincing when asked about Rockliffs position. It is obvious he does not want to leave as he is building a house. If there was an alternate choice I would say relieve him of captaincy but there is no obvious one apart from Zorko.

I feel Swann hesitated because he just flat out didn't know. If a new coach comes in he may want a new leader. I'm a fan of split captaincy and with such a young team I think it is needed. Zorko maybe... can be immature and sucked in on the field. conceded a few 50m penalties on Sunday. Mitch Robinson is also a possibility. Harris one for the future.
Title: Re: Tom Rockliff
Post by: meow meow on August 30, 2016, 05:50:41 PM
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on August 30, 2016, 05:21:30 PM
if he requested a trade would Brisbane take pick 1?

Brisbane would take that every day of the week!
Title: Re: Tom Rockliff
Post by: Ringo on August 30, 2016, 05:55:46 PM
Quote from: strikes91 on August 30, 2016, 05:38:07 PM
Quote from: Ringo on August 30, 2016, 05:11:04 PM
Have not heard officially but Swanny and the CEO did not sound overly convincing when asked about Rockliffs position. It is obvious he does not want to leave as he is building a house. If there was an alternate choice I would say relieve him of captaincy but there is no obvious one apart from Zorko.

I feel Swann hesitated because he just flat out didn't know. If a new coach comes in he may want a new leader. I'm a fan of split captaincy and with such a young team I think it is needed. Zorko maybe... can be immature and sucked in on the field. conceded a few 50m penalties on Sunday. Mitch Robinson is also a possibility. Harris one for the future.
Forgot about Robbo dah.  Harris definitely in the future. And dual captains may be the way to go given our youth. Rich and Hanley though do not inspire as leaders. So maybe Rocky and Robbo/Zorko.
Title: Re: Tom Rockliff
Post by: strikes91 on August 30, 2016, 06:15:29 PM
Quote from: Ringo on August 30, 2016, 05:55:46 PM
Quote from: strikes91 on August 30, 2016, 05:38:07 PM
Quote from: Ringo on August 30, 2016, 05:11:04 PM
Have not heard officially but Swanny and the CEO did not sound overly convincing when asked about Rockliffs position. It is obvious he does not want to leave as he is building a house. If there was an alternate choice I would say relieve him of captaincy but there is no obvious one apart from Zorko.

I feel Swann hesitated because he just flat out didn't know. If a new coach comes in he may want a new leader. I'm a fan of split captaincy and with such a young team I think it is needed. Zorko maybe... can be immature and sucked in on the field. conceded a few 50m penalties on Sunday. Mitch Robinson is also a possibility. Harris one for the future.
Forgot about Robbo dah.  Harris definitely in the future. And dual captains may be the way to go given our youth. Rich and Hanley though do not inspire as leaders. So maybe Rocky and Robbo/Zorko.

Hanley I wouldn't want near a leadership group. Rich doesn't seem vocal neither Dayne Beams. I think the sad thing is we only have a few to pick which is why I think Rockliff will retain it
Title: Re: Tom Rockliff
Post by: nrich102 on August 30, 2016, 06:27:03 PM
If it's true that we don't want Rocky (which confuses me), I think the AFL should move in and shut the club down. I think it's got to that stage.
Title: Re: Tom Rockliff
Post by: strikes91 on August 30, 2016, 09:09:10 PM
That bust up with a player that was rumoured a while back was Ryan Harwood.
Title: Re: Tom Rockliff
Post by: Ringo on August 30, 2016, 09:17:57 PM
Quote from: strikes91 on August 30, 2016, 09:09:10 PM
That bust up with a player that was rumoured a while back was Ryan Harwood.
Rocky seems to have matured as a captain this year. Last year he struggled and had a few issues which he worked on. Had a run in with Zorko in one game I was at.
Title: Re: Tom Rockliff
Post by: _wato on August 30, 2016, 09:55:52 PM
Rocky gone Brissy will go into meltdown
Title: Re: Tom Rockliff
Post by: strikes91 on August 30, 2016, 09:59:36 PM
Quote from: Ringo on August 30, 2016, 09:17:57 PM
Quote from: strikes91 on August 30, 2016, 09:09:10 PM
That bust up with a player that was rumoured a while back was Ryan Harwood.
Rocky seems to have matured as a captain this year. Last year he struggled and had a few issues which he worked on. Had a run in with Zorko in one game I was at.

Zorko and Rockliff both committed and competive players, they made up almost straight away. Hanley and Cutler had a bust up on field 2 weeks ago, things happen when they're not going well
Title: Re: Tom Rockliff
Post by: Ringo on August 30, 2016, 10:16:02 PM
Thanks Strikes and agree, Did not think the Hanley Cutler was that bad either but yep tensions boil over when team not going well.
Title: Re: Tom Rockliff
Post by: strikes91 on August 31, 2016, 08:52:06 AM
Quote from: Ringo on August 30, 2016, 10:16:02 PM
Thanks Strikes and agree, Did not think the Hanley Cutler was that bad either but yep tensions boil over when team not going well.

Just small things. Chance to start fresh next year. For Rockliff I feel as he will be spending a lot more time in the forward line. Damaging player 1 on 1
Title: Re: Tom Rockliff
Post by: Ringo on August 31, 2016, 09:21:02 AM
Hearing reports that Board was underwhelmed with Rocky's presentation last week as well.  So will be a turbulent few weeks played out in the media until Director of Coaching and coach appointed.  Then they will have a say on Captain.

To give an idea of what is being played out Media are already honing in on the fact that Rocky and Hanley were seen drinking together Monday afternoon after the Leppa sacking announcement. I say so what season is over for us.
Title: Re: Tom Rockliff
Post by: shaker on August 31, 2016, 09:29:59 AM
Quote from: Ringo on August 31, 2016, 09:21:02 AM
Hearing reports that Board was underwhelmed with Rocky's presentation last week as well.  So will be a turbulent few weeks played out in the media until Director of Coaching and coach appointed.  Then they will have a say on Captain.

To give an idea of what is being played out Media are already honing in on the fact that Rocky and Hanley were seen drinking together Monday afternoon after the Leppa sacking announcement. I say so what season is over for us.

Haha they were the only 2 footballers drinking on Monday  ::)
Title: Re: Tom Rockliff
Post by: Ringo on August 31, 2016, 09:32:18 AM
Quote from: shaker on August 31, 2016, 09:29:59 AM
Quote from: Ringo on August 31, 2016, 09:21:02 AM
Hearing reports that Board was underwhelmed with Rocky's presentation last week as well.  So will be a turbulent few weeks played out in the media until Director of Coaching and coach appointed.  Then they will have a say on Captain.

To give an idea of what is being played out Media are already honing in on the fact that Rocky and Hanley were seen drinking together Monday afternoon after the Leppa sacking announcement. I say so what season is over for us.

Haha they were the only 2 footballers drinking on Monday  ::)
Today is the "Official" end of year celebrations due to Mondays announcements.
Title: Re: Tom Rockliff
Post by: strikes91 on August 31, 2016, 04:26:43 PM
Love how they leave out 5-10 names from drinking on Monday. I know for a fact that Daniel Rich was there and a host of others and player friends.
Title: Re: Tom Rockliff
Post by: strikes91 on August 31, 2016, 04:27:59 PM
Andrew Hamilton is gunning for him to be sacked. Such a sad world when journalist pests think they're involved in the club.
Title: Re: Tom Rockliff
Post by: Ringo on August 31, 2016, 04:49:22 PM
Quote from: strikes91 on August 31, 2016, 04:27:59 PM
Andrew Hamilton is gunning for him to be sacked. Such a sad world when journalist pests think they're involved in the club.
Agree - Some journalists wish to stir up trouble.
Title: Re: Tom Rockliff
Post by: elephants on August 31, 2016, 05:05:08 PM
"He was also involved in a physical altercation with teammate Ryan Harwood at a team social outing this season. That was the same day where he had an angry text message exchange with welfare boss Craig Lambert"

Didn't know that. I'm sure there's plenty of media beat up, but if he's this polarising maybe it is better for him and Hanley to go and the club to install a core group of leaders that will lead them forward for the next decade?

Would be difficult to be properly compensated for Rocky and Hanley were they to leave though.

Hanley especially strikes me as a player that could be amazing in a successful team.
Title: Re: Tom Rockliff
Post by: Ringo on August 31, 2016, 05:10:09 PM
As we have said ele there were more players than Rocky and Hanley at the session. And as Strikes some journalists like to kick a club when it is down.

Unfortunately think that Brisbane will be in the headlines leading up to the draft some rightfully so but some scraping the barrell looking for stories.
Title: Re: Tom Rockliff
Post by: elephants on August 31, 2016, 05:16:15 PM
Yeah of course, Brissie definitely an easy targets for journos atm.
Title: Re: Tom Rockliff
Post by: strikes91 on August 31, 2016, 05:19:36 PM
Pearce Hanley is a big problem for the club. Stated he was drunk for the first 2 years while he was here and i'm worried he's back into it and dragging others down with him. If there was a change needed it would be to look at trading him out and possibly taking the captaincy off tom.
Title: Re: Tom Rockliff
Post by: Mat0369 on August 31, 2016, 05:40:45 PM
Quote from: Ringo on August 30, 2016, 05:55:46 PM
Forgot about Robbo dah.  Harris definitely in the future. And dual captains may be the way to go given our youth. Rich and Hanley though do not inspire as leaders. So maybe Rocky and Robbo/Zorko.

If Robbo becomes the captain I don't know what to think. I'm not saying he will be a bad choice, but this is probably an indictment on us more then the Lions and where we were at heading into 2015.
Title: Re: Tom Rockliff
Post by: Ringo on September 03, 2016, 10:44:32 PM
Interesting Rocky's manager says he will be playing at Brisbane next year so we wait and see.

Also will be interesting to see what happens with the C given that Rocky has just been named players player of the year.
Title: Re: Tom Rockliff
Post by: crowls on September 04, 2016, 02:05:09 PM
Put aside Rocky for a moment.   Who at Brissie sets the standard for preparation and training?    Surely they have to be looked at for leadership group.   This gets back to Leppa's comments.  You can see he was working on developing Rockliff's leadership skills and his obligations as captain.   


What is Beams professionalism like?   Brisbane need senior players or quality players to set an example for the young and the restless.    Can they trade someone in?





Title: Re: Tom Rockliff
Post by: strikes91 on September 05, 2016, 02:28:43 PM
Beams seems to quiet around the club, doesn't seem vocal.
Zorko is very hot headed but performance are always top notch
Robbo is tricky. He has seemed to leave the trouble behind. I don't think he needs the pressure of captaining an average club though
Rich, Hanley, Martin all a no

We should now back Rockliff in and bring Harris Andrews and Ben Keays into it.
Title: Re: Tom Rockliff
Post by: crowls on September 06, 2016, 12:17:39 AM
Quote from: strikes91 on September 05, 2016, 02:28:43 PM
Beams seems to quiet around the club, doesn't seem vocal.
Zorko is very hot headed but performance are always top notch
Robbo is tricky. He has seemed to leave the trouble behind. I don't think he needs the pressure of captaining an average club though
Rich, Hanley, Martin all a no

We should now back Rockliff in and bring Harris Andrews and Ben Keays into it.
there in lies the problem.   brissie should hire boomer for a year to show the boys how it is done.
Title: Re: Tom Rockliff
Post by: Ringo on September 06, 2016, 09:51:54 AM
Not sure about Ben Keays strikes but maybe beast mode Mathieson could be groomed.
Title: Re: Tom Rockliff
Post by: JBs-Hawks on September 06, 2016, 10:00:58 AM
You want a guy that calls himself beast mode and pulls the shot gun out after his first goal as your captain?
Title: Re: Tom Rockliff
Post by: Ringo on September 06, 2016, 10:34:02 AM
Quote from: JBs-Hawks on September 06, 2016, 10:00:58 AM
You want a guy that calls himself beast mode and pulls the shot gun out after his first goal as your captain?
Notice I said groomed - He is some of the characteristics I saw in a young Johnno Brown.
Title: Re: Tom Rockliff
Post by: _wato on September 06, 2016, 03:36:34 PM
Completely irrelevant in response to this thread

But do you Brissy boys see Rocky playing a lot of time up forward next year under a new coach?
Title: Re: Tom Rockliff
Post by: Ringo on September 06, 2016, 03:49:16 PM
Can see him resting forward at times similar to Dangerfield.  He is a tackling machine and would hope he returns to that 8/9 tackles per game. Also need his ball winning ability out of the centre.
A lot will depend on new coach and what his game plan is. Leppa had the attacking game plan but skill levels let it down.
The thing that worries me for next year is if Rocky stays and with his contract expiring next year where will his mindset be for the year.
Title: Re: Tom Rockliff
Post by: _wato on September 06, 2016, 03:51:15 PM
Quote from: Ringo on September 06, 2016, 03:49:16 PM
Can see him resting forward at times similar to Dangerfield.  He is a tackling machine and would hope he returns to that 8/9 tackles per game. Also need his ball winning ability out of the centre.
A lot will depend on new coach and what his game plan is. Leppa had the attacking game plan but skill levels let it down.
The thing that worries me for next year is if Rocky stays and with his contract expiring next year where will his mindset be for the year.

Makes a lot of sense, cheers mate. Probably eyeing off the big money from Vic you'd assume.
Title: Re: Tom Rockliff
Post by: strikes91 on September 06, 2016, 05:37:09 PM
Quote from: Ringo on September 06, 2016, 09:51:54 AM
Not sure about Ben Keays strikes but maybe beast mode Mathieson could be groomed.

Pretty sure Ben captained the QLD under 18 team. He is very well spoken for his age as well.
Title: Re: Tom Rockliff
Post by: strikes91 on September 15, 2016, 08:39:51 PM
My Brother works with a close friend of a board member (won't say who dammit) that 2 high up staff are pushing hard for him to be moved on but he has made it clear he won't be leaving while contracted and only will be traded if they don't give him a contract for 2018 and beyond (Does not want to leave and if he does it will be from the club pushing him out), apparently Rocky never pulled the contract that was rumoured mid year and that the club never accepted, Price was not the problem.

Mentioned this to my Rugby league dominant mates who have a small following in the sport that the club doesn't want him and they just laughed. "why get rid of your best player"

Confusing times ahead...
Title: Re: Tom Rockliff
Post by: Ringo on September 15, 2016, 08:55:55 PM
Have heard the same rumour today Strikes from my sources.

So interesting times ahead. Really hard to believe that there would be no substance to the rumour. Reminds me of a few years back when Merrett was shopped. and then Riska left when he was shopped as well. So we do have history.

Hopefully common sense will prevail and we retain Rocky.  If he does go could be a very interesting AGM in December,
Title: Re: Tom Rockliff
Post by: strikes91 on September 15, 2016, 09:33:53 PM
The talk that he defended leppitsch and gave the board a gob full is looking on the money. I'll have a unhappy house hold if we go into the future without him. Trading him leaves such a foul taste in my mouth, I'd rather the club eat it's own hate and delist him and get nothing.
Title: Re: Tom Rockliff
Post by: Ringo on September 15, 2016, 09:43:22 PM
Why the Board were saying less than impressive presentation  ;)
Title: Re: Tom Rockliff
Post by: T Dog on September 15, 2016, 09:45:33 PM
Quote from: Ringo on September 15, 2016, 09:43:22 PM
Why the Board were saying less than impressive presentation  ;)

On the other hand .. his on field presentations have been good :-\
Title: Re: Tom Rockliff
Post by: strikes91 on September 15, 2016, 09:49:49 PM
Quote from: Ringo on September 15, 2016, 09:43:22 PM
Why the Board were saying less than impressive presentation  ;)

It's starting to make sense.
Title: Re: Tom Rockliff
Post by: strikes91 on September 16, 2016, 06:50:06 PM
Okay so got some more info/rumours. Club is offering way unders to him and he is now getting showerty with them. Still wants to stay but feels they are deliberately trying to ruffle his feathers and get him to move. This is grudge v grudge by the sounds of it.

My take
It's a bad look if the club come out and push him only for a trade not to get done. I'd say they want him to openly move clubs to keep them looking squeaky clean hence the low offer to him.
Title: Re: Tom Rockliff
Post by: shaker on September 18, 2016, 01:40:38 PM
Quote from: strikes91 on September 16, 2016, 06:50:06 PM
Okay so got some more info/rumours. Club is offering way unders to him and he is now getting showerty with them. Still wants to stay but feels they are deliberately trying to ruffle his feathers and get him to move. This is grudge v grudge by the sounds of it.

My take
It's a bad look if the club come out and push him only for a trade not to get done. I'd say they want him to openly move clubs to keep them looking squeaky clean hence the low offer to him.

Are you serious do you have idiots running your club you don't just push your best player away because people don't see eye to eye you resolve it , if you want the Tiges can give you next years 1st round and we will throw in Lennon really if you get rid of him that will be the biggest blunder this trade period probably this century ..... well except for the Tiges forking out pick 19 and this years pick 24 for Yarran  :P
Title: Re: Tom Rockliff
Post by: Ringo on September 18, 2016, 02:48:03 PM
Quote from: shaker on September 18, 2016, 01:40:38 PM
Quote from: strikes91 on September 16, 2016, 06:50:06 PM
Okay so got some more info/rumours. Club is offering way unders to him and he is now getting showerty with them. Still wants to stay but feels they are deliberately trying to ruffle his feathers and get him to move. This is grudge v grudge by the sounds of it.

My take
It's a bad look if the club come out and push him only for a trade not to get done. I'd say they want him to openly move clubs to keep them looking squeaky clean hence the low offer to him.

Are you serious do you have idiots running your club you don't just push your best player away because people don't see eye to eye you resolve it , if you want the Tiges can give you next years 1st round and we will throw in Lennon really if you get rid of him that will be the biggest blunder this trade period probably this century ..... well except for the Tiges forking out pick 19 and this years pick 24 for Yarran  :P
Yes some serious questions need to be asked of the board if he is allowed to walk. Have not heard what the contract offer is but considering what was offered to the under-performing Rich and Hanley he should be at least $600k plus.
Title: Re: Tom Rockliff
Post by: iZander on September 18, 2016, 10:16:24 PM
Quote from: Ringo on September 18, 2016, 02:48:03 PM
Quote from: shaker on September 18, 2016, 01:40:38 PM
Quote from: strikes91 on September 16, 2016, 06:50:06 PM
Okay so got some more info/rumours. Club is offering way unders to him and he is now getting showerty with them. Still wants to stay but feels they are deliberately trying to ruffle his feathers and get him to move. This is grudge v grudge by the sounds of it.

My take
It's a bad look if the club come out and push him only for a trade not to get done. I'd say they want him to openly move clubs to keep them looking squeaky clean hence the low offer to him.

Are you serious do you have idiots running your club you don't just push your best player away because people don't see eye to eye you resolve it , if you want the Tiges can give you next years 1st round and we will throw in Lennon really if you get rid of him that will be the biggest blunder this trade period probably this century ..... well except for the Tiges forking out pick 19 and this years pick 24 for Yarran  :P
Yes some serious questions need to be asked of the board if he is allowed to walk. Have not heard what the contract offer is but considering what was offered to the under-performing Rich and Hanley he should be at least $600k plus.

Poor Rich gets tagged every game of his life so no1 knows how good he really is :P
Title: Re: Tom Rockliff
Post by: strikes91 on September 18, 2016, 11:03:40 PM
Quote from: shaker on September 18, 2016, 01:40:38 PM
Quote from: strikes91 on September 16, 2016, 06:50:06 PM
Okay so got some more info/rumours. Club is offering way unders to him and he is now getting showerty with them. Still wants to stay but feels they are deliberately trying to ruffle his feathers and get him to move. This is grudge v grudge by the sounds of it.

My take
It's a bad look if the club come out and push him only for a trade not to get done. I'd say they want him to openly move clubs to keep them looking squeaky clean hence the low offer to him.

Are you serious do you have idiots running your club you don't just push your best player away because people don't see eye to eye you resolve it , if you want the Tiges can give you next years 1st round and we will throw in Lennon really if you get rid of him that will be the biggest blunder this trade period probably this century ..... well except for the Tiges forking out pick 19 and this years pick 24 for Yarran  :P

We'll see what Noble and Fagan do. Have no confidence in Sharpless and Swann at the moment.
Title: Re: Tom Rockliff
Post by: nrich102 on September 19, 2016, 08:38:33 AM
Can I nominate Ringo for a spot on the Lions board?
Title: Re: Tom Rockliff
Post by: Ringo on September 19, 2016, 08:54:38 AM
Quote from: strikes91 on September 18, 2016, 11:03:40 PM
Quote from: shaker on September 18, 2016, 01:40:38 PM
Quote from: strikes91 on September 16, 2016, 06:50:06 PM
Okay so got some more info/rumours. Club is offering way unders to him and he is now getting showerty with them. Still wants to stay but feels they are deliberately trying to ruffle his feathers and get him to move. This is grudge v grudge by the sounds of it.

My take
It's a bad look if the club come out and push him only for a trade not to get done. I'd say they want him to openly move clubs to keep them looking squeaky clean hence the low offer to him.

Are you serious do you have idiots running your club you don't just push your best player away because people don't see eye to eye you resolve it , if you want the Tiges can give you next years 1st round and we will throw in Lennon really if you get rid of him that will be the biggest blunder this trade period probably this century ..... well except for the Tiges forking out pick 19 and this years pick 24 for Yarran  :P

We'll see what Noble and Fagan do. Have no confidence in Sharpless and Swann at the moment.
Yep that seems to be favoured ticket at the moment. Would like to see Phil De Bella win a seat on the Board this year. Not sure who he replaces. Yep no confidence in Sharples whatsoever since the Springfield debacle. Still reserved on Swannie though.
Title: Re: Tom Rockliff
Post by: strikes91 on May 17, 2017, 12:46:23 AM
Tom has well and truly earned a big fat contract.
Title: Re: Tom Rockliff
Post by: RaisyDaisy on June 29, 2017, 10:41:09 AM
Article in HS saying Adelaide will be going hard for Rocky, and they reckon Brisbane will let him go as the preference would be to get another first rounder, whilst Rocky helps Sloane etc
Title: Re: Tom Rockliff
Post by: Ringo on June 29, 2017, 02:51:26 PM
Think he has had a change of Heart this year and wants to stay. Think Brisbane will match as they still need the experience to assist young guys coming up. But who knows funnier things have happened.

Crows seeking a replacement for Thompson but think the Crouch Boys are performing reasonably.
Title: Re: Tom Rockliff
Post by: RaisyDaisy on June 29, 2017, 03:03:39 PM
Makes sense for Rocky to leave though

He will never win a flag with Brisbane, and Brisbane would get another 1st rounder

Win win for both
Title: Re: Tom Rockliff
Post by: GoLions on June 29, 2017, 03:11:44 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on June 29, 2017, 03:03:39 PM
Makes sense for Rocky to leave though

He will never win a flag with Brisbane, and Brisbane would get another 1st rounder

Win win for both
If he wants to leave, then yeah. But I don't see us trying to push him out if that isn't the case. From what he has shown this year, he is still 100% committed to the club and has been one of our best basically every week.
Title: Re: Tom Rockliff
Post by: Gigantor on June 29, 2017, 03:14:53 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on June 29, 2017, 10:41:09 AM
Article in HS saying Adelaide will be going hard for Rocky, and they reckon Brisbane will let him go as the preference would be to get another first rounder, whilst Rocky helps Sloane etc

So Gibbs to Port then?
Title: Re: Tom Rockliff
Post by: Holz on June 29, 2017, 03:18:52 PM
geez if you have a fit Rocky and B.Crouch helping out Sloane and M.Crouch thats a killer midfield to go with a great forward line.

Title: Re: Tom Rockliff
Post by: TomK on June 29, 2017, 04:07:59 PM
I wouldn't trust anything written by Rucci, doesn't mean I can't dream though :P
Title: Re: Tom Rockliff
Post by: Grazz on June 29, 2017, 04:45:44 PM
Quote from: TomK on June 29, 2017, 04:07:59 PM
I wouldn't trust anything written by Rucci, doesn't mean I can't dream though :P

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Title: Re: Tom Rockliff
Post by: JBs-Hawks on June 30, 2017, 12:15:52 AM
Quote from: Holz on June 29, 2017, 03:18:52 PM
geez if you have a fit Rocky and B.Crouch helping out Sloane and M.Crouch thats a killer midfield to go with a great forward line.

A pretty one paced midfield