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Title: Planning for 2017
Post by: Holz on April 03, 2016, 04:11:32 PM
ok with season 2016 over.

im looking towards 2017 to start planning.

the essendon players will be interesting, probably will get priced at what they averaged in 2015. If they get a discount certainly will start looking at them.

Brad Crouch: if he stays through the year healthy, i think he could be in a big year next year. Starting off slow so should be pretty decently priced.

who else is on your radars?


Title: Re: Planning for 2017
Post by: Mat0369 on April 03, 2016, 04:12:36 PM
Quote from: Holz on April 03, 2016, 04:11:32 PM
ok with season 2016 over.

im looking towards 2017 to start planning.

the essendon players will be interesting, probably will get priced at what they averaged in 2015. If they get a discount certainly will start looking at them.

Brad Crouch: if he stays through the year healthy, i think he could be in a big year next year. Starting off slow so should be pretty decently priced.

who else is on your radars?

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Title: Re: Planning for 2017
Post by: WizzFizz on April 03, 2016, 04:15:33 PM
barlow and rockliff should be steals in our forward lines priced at 80avg
Title: Re: Planning for 2017
Post by: Asparagus on April 03, 2016, 05:02:50 PM
Got my eye on a couple of northern knights kids who should go in the middle of the draft and be low priced rookies.  ;D ;D

Friday at 11pm my biggest issue was Robbo out 1-2 weeks and it didn't bother me as my pies got up by a point.

36 hours later and I have....(worst in bold)
Rich, Sheridan, Lonergan
Selwood, Rocky, Gresham, Dunkley
Gawn
Barlow, Robbo
Title: Re: Planning for 2017
Post by: meow meow on April 03, 2016, 08:49:30 PM
Next year I'll just pick the top 6/8/2/6 players in their positions

B: Adams, Boyd, Murphy, JJ, Biggs, Wood - Rookie, Rookie
M: Bont, Macrae, Hunter, Libba, Wallis, Stevens, Daniel, Dunkley - Rookie, Rookie
R: Boyd, Mummy - Goets, Rookie
F: Stringer, McLean, Dahlhaus, Picken, Suckling, Dickson - Rookie, Rookie
Title: Re: Planning for 2017
Post by: MC on April 03, 2016, 09:04:15 PM
Quote from: meow meow on April 03, 2016, 08:49:30 PM
Next year I'll just pick the top 6/8/2/6 players in their positions

B: Adams, Boyd, Murphy, JJ, Biggs, Wood - Rookie, Rookie
M: Bont, Macrae, Hunter, Libba, Wallis, Stevens, Daniel, Dunkley - Rookie, Rookie
R: Boyd, Mummy - Goets, Rookie
F: Stringer, McLean, Dahlhaus, Picken, Suckling, Dickson - Rookie, Rookie

You forgot Jaeger in the middle there...   :-X
Title: Re: Planning for 2017
Post by: Grufflez on April 04, 2016, 04:32:46 PM
Damn you guys are all ready talking up the same spuds for next season, i have come to realize PLANNING ruins everything.
Next year i'll start looking at my team 2 weeks out from round 1 and i won't over think it, i am still liking this year though so far :)
Title: Re: Planning for 2017
Post by: crowls on April 05, 2016, 01:38:59 PM
Quote from: Grufflez on April 04, 2016, 04:32:46 PM
Damn you guys are all ready talking up the same spuds for next season, i have come to realize PLANNING ruins everything.
Next year i'll start looking at my team 2 weeks out from round 1 and i won't over think it, i am still liking this year though so far :)
Leaving out top 5 def, ruck and fwds and top 10 mids in my planning next year.   Always end up making a last minute change and regretting it.  Also how can you stop getting burnt on C when you pick Fyfe and he scores a 60 for christs sake!!!!  Could have been worse and put rd2 C on Rocky as well.
Title: Re: Planning for 2017
Post by: Rusty00 on April 06, 2016, 11:34:00 AM
Next year will be mid-priced madness I reckon with even less rookies than this year due to Essendon getting their full team back.

I reckon David Myers will be a lock given his price.
Title: Re: Planning for 2017
Post by: fanTCfool on April 06, 2016, 11:42:55 AM
2017 - Year of the Scharenberg
Title: Re: Planning for 2017
Post by: Locinator on April 10, 2016, 05:58:11 PM
Swanny for injury discount? Hopefully FWD eligibility as he didn't play much midfield this year
Title: Re: Planning for 2017
Post by: TomK on April 10, 2016, 05:59:55 PM
Quote from: Locinator on April 10, 2016, 05:58:11 PM
Swanny for injury discount? Hopefully FWD eligibility as he didn't play much midfield this year
They won't give him forward status from less than a quarter of football
Title: Re: Planning for 2017
Post by: RaisyDaisy on April 10, 2016, 06:00:28 PM
Quote from: Locinator on April 10, 2016, 05:58:11 PM
Swanny for injury discount? Hopefully FWD eligibility as he didn't play much midfield this year

Didn't play much midfield? He barely played at all haha

Title: Re: Planning for 2017
Post by: MC on April 10, 2016, 07:17:40 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on April 10, 2016, 06:00:28 PM
Quote from: Locinator on April 10, 2016, 05:58:11 PM
Swanny for injury discount? Hopefully FWD eligibility as he didn't play much midfield this year

Didn't play much midfield? He barely played at all haha

I think he's done after this year anyway.
Title: Re: Planning for 2017
Post by: Holz on April 10, 2016, 08:25:10 PM
Quote from: fanTCfool on April 06, 2016, 11:42:55 AM
2017 - Year of the Scharenberg

agreed Jonty and Matt

my D1 D2,

thats if Jonty gets dpp might me M only
Title: Re: Planning for 2017
Post by: BomberSam on April 12, 2016, 11:44:44 AM
Swan at 400k as a MID only. Could he be worth picking, or is that price bracket just too awkward for someone very unlikely to be a keeper?

If Essendon players get that 30% discount that injured players get, Watson will be around 350k and Heppell around 395k.

Myers would be under 200k.

Title: Re: Planning for 2017
Post by: TomK on April 17, 2016, 01:23:33 PM
After watching him live last night, if Isaac Heeney still has fwd status, I will find it hard not to lock him in. Absolute gun!
Title: Re: Planning for 2017
Post by: crowls on April 17, 2016, 03:28:42 PM
Quote from: BomberSam on April 12, 2016, 11:44:44 AM
Swan at 400k as a MID only. Could he be worth picking, or is that price bracket just too awkward for someone very unlikely to be a keeper?

If Essendon players get that 30% discount that injured players get, Watson will be around 350k and Heppell around 395k.

Myers would be under 200k.
For what reason would Essendon suspended players get 30% discount.   They are not injured.   At best a 10% for being out makes sense.
Title: Re: Planning for 2017
Post by: BomberSam on April 17, 2016, 04:01:04 PM
Quote from: crowls on April 17, 2016, 03:28:42 PM
Quote from: BomberSam on April 12, 2016, 11:44:44 AM
Swan at 400k as a MID only. Could he be worth picking, or is that price bracket just too awkward for someone very unlikely to be a keeper?

If Essendon players get that 30% discount that injured players get, Watson will be around 350k and Heppell around 395k.

Myers would be under 200k.
For what reason would Essendon suspended players get 30% discount.   They are not injured.   At best a 10% for being out makes sense.

I don't think they will. That's why I said "if" mate.
Title: Re: Planning for 2017
Post by: MC on April 17, 2016, 11:07:59 PM
Quote from: crowls on April 17, 2016, 03:28:42 PM
Quote from: BomberSam on April 12, 2016, 11:44:44 AM
Swan at 400k as a MID only. Could he be worth picking, or is that price bracket just too awkward for someone very unlikely to be a keeper?

If Essendon players get that 30% discount that injured players get, Watson will be around 350k and Heppell around 395k.

Myers would be under 200k.
For what reason would Essendon suspended players get 30% discount.   They are not injured.   At best a 10% for being out makes sense.

Crowley got a hefty discount for his year off, same scenario. CD have set the precedent, can't see them backing off from it. Hibberd/Heppell will be hard to look past I think. 
Title: Re: Planning for 2017
Post by: Gigantor on May 12, 2016, 09:45:59 AM
If Fyfe doesn't play again and they give him a 20% discount for only playing 5 games he will be priced @ 455k  based on his average :)

Even if they don't give him a discount like GAJ this year, he still will be priced at 569k which is an absolute bargin!
Title: Re: Planning for 2017
Post by: Holz on May 12, 2016, 02:41:46 PM
Shuan Higgins average of 80 and discount. Injury risk in the past and injured again but at 350k i gotta look.

this is a message for 2017. NO MID PRICERS

after posting this thread im now up to 400 and in with a shot for overall :) so this tells you never count yourself out early.
Title: Re: Planning for 2017
Post by: Gigantor on May 12, 2016, 03:27:34 PM
Quote from: Holz on May 12, 2016, 02:41:46 PM
Shuan Higgins average of 80 and discount. Injury risk in the past and injured again but at 350k i gotta look.

this is a message for 2017. NO MID PRICERS

after posting this thread im now up to 400 and in with a shot for overall :) so this tells you never count yourself out early.

Higgins would be 395k if he is done for the year, probably a bit too much for me (81 ave, 10% discount for 7 games)
Title: Re: Planning for 2017
Post by: enzedder on May 15, 2016, 06:16:03 PM
Beams lock.
Fyfe lock.
Swan maybe.
Higgins probably as fwd.
Title: Re: Planning for 2017
Post by: Grufflez on May 15, 2016, 06:23:01 PM
Quote from: enzedder on May 15, 2016, 06:16:03 PM
Beams lock.
Fyfe lock.
Swan maybe.
Higgins probably as fwd.

You had best begin planning for 2018 then ahahhahaa
Title: Re: Planning for 2017
Post by: crowls on May 21, 2016, 08:43:44 PM
Quote from: Gigantor on May 12, 2016, 03:27:34 PM
Quote from: Holz on May 12, 2016, 02:41:46 PM
Shuan Higgins average of 80 and discount. Injury risk in the past and injured again but at 350k i gotta look.

this is a message for 2017. NO MID PRICERS

after posting this thread im now up to 400 and in with a shot for overall :) so this tells you never count yourself out early.

Higgins would be 395k if he is done for the year, probably a bit too much for me (81 ave, 10% discount for 7 games)
1st Law - No Mid Pricers.  No discussions nada.   This does not include fallen prems, injured prems returning.   Other than that NO MID PRICERS.     
Second Law of SC -  NO SIDEWAYS.       Keep in mind dont need sideways if you pay attention to First Law of SC
Title: Re: Planning for 2017
Post by: Holz on May 23, 2016, 05:29:14 PM
Quote from: crowls on May 21, 2016, 08:43:44 PM
Quote from: Gigantor on May 12, 2016, 03:27:34 PM
Quote from: Holz on May 12, 2016, 02:41:46 PM
Shuan Higgins average of 80 and discount. Injury risk in the past and injured again but at 350k i gotta look.

this is a message for 2017. NO MID PRICERS

after posting this thread im now up to 400 and in with a shot for overall :) so this tells you never count yourself out early.

Higgins would be 395k if he is done for the year, probably a bit too much for me (81 ave, 10% discount for 7 games)
1st Law - No Mid Pricers.  No discussions nada.   This does not include fallen prems, injured prems returning.   Other than that NO MID PRICERS.     
Second Law of SC -  NO SIDEWAYS.       Keep in mind dont need sideways if you pay attention to First Law of SC

higgins is a injured premo returning.
Title: Re: Planning for 2017
Post by: GoTheEagles on May 26, 2016, 10:45:45 AM
Any other locks for 2017?
Title: Re: Planning for 2017
Post by: enzedder on July 31, 2016, 11:31:47 AM
Def- Shaw, Docherty
Mids- Dangerfield, Pendles, Fyfe, Bont, Rocky
Ruck- Gawn, Goldy
Fwd- ?

If at all possible I'll be looking at fitting these players in.
Shaw and Docherty pick themselves... will look at Rance and Laird again as I started with these two this year...averages stack up well but games missed this year have hurt.
Danger picks himself and fires from the get go. Pendles is mega consistent and worth every dollar. Fyfe will be a bargain. Rocky is averaging 107 and will be cheap by his standards and think Bont will average at least the same as this year but probably more next year...absolute gun/ matchwinner...all 5 of these guys can score super scores (140+) multiple times a season and besides Danger and to a lesser degree Pendles should priced at a similar price to most other premiums.
My starting rucks will be the same as this year...don't see a reason to change them...been the best 2 by some margin but the trick will be affording them...Martin may tempt me at a cheaper price if I'm juggling money and players but Gawn and Goldy are the power two...durable and consistent.
Forwards ? will have to wait and see who gets fwd status.

Consideration of pre seasons, fitness status and price of Beams, Higgins, Swan and suspended Bombers will be interesting too.
Title: Re: Planning for 2017
Post by: iZander on July 31, 2016, 11:35:52 AM
Quote from: Holz on May 23, 2016, 05:29:14 PM
Quote from: crowls on May 21, 2016, 08:43:44 PM
Quote from: Gigantor on May 12, 2016, 03:27:34 PM
Quote from: Holz on May 12, 2016, 02:41:46 PM
Shuan Higgins average of 80 and discount. Injury risk in the past and injured again but at 350k i gotta look.

this is a message for 2017. NO MID PRICERS

after posting this thread im now up to 400 and in with a shot for overall :) so this tells you never count yourself out early.

Higgins would be 395k if he is done for the year, probably a bit too much for me (81 ave, 10% discount for 7 games)
1st Law - No Mid Pricers.  No discussions nada.   This does not include fallen prems, injured prems returning.   Other than that NO MID PRICERS.     
Second Law of SC -  NO SIDEWAYS.       Keep in mind dont need sideways if you pay attention to First Law of SC

higgins is a injured premo returning.
Higgins is injured more than hes not, he plays one full season and people forget how much pain he caused the previous 4 or so years. Cant be seriously considering him :/
Title: Re: Planning for 2017
Post by: _wato on July 31, 2016, 11:39:42 AM
Def - Shaw, Docherty Swallow Scharenberg MJ
Mid - Danger, Fyfe, Rocky, Beams, Hanners, Heppell, Jaegar, Swan, Myers
Ruck - Goldy, Gawn
Fwd - Bennell, Higgins, Roughy, Elliot

All under consideration. Won't pick all
Title: Re: Planning for 2017
Post by: meow meow on July 31, 2016, 01:45:14 PM
After 2 years with mass injuries you're going to start with Swallow, Shaz, Fyfe, Rocky, Beams, Jaegar, Bennell, Higgo and Elliott?

GLWT
Title: Re: Planning for 2017
Post by: meow meow on July 31, 2016, 01:47:59 PM
Quote from: iZander on July 31, 2016, 11:35:52 AM
Quote from: Holz on May 23, 2016, 05:29:14 PM
Quote from: crowls on May 21, 2016, 08:43:44 PM
Quote from: Gigantor on May 12, 2016, 03:27:34 PM
Quote from: Holz on May 12, 2016, 02:41:46 PM
Shuan Higgins average of 80 and discount. Injury risk in the past and injured again but at 350k i gotta look.

this is a message for 2017. NO MID PRICERS

after posting this thread im now up to 400 and in with a shot for overall :) so this tells you never count yourself out early.

Higgins would be 395k if he is done for the year, probably a bit too much for me (81 ave, 10% discount for 7 games)
1st Law - No Mid Pricers.  No discussions nada.   This does not include fallen prems, injured prems returning.   Other than that NO MID PRICERS.     
Second Law of SC -  NO SIDEWAYS.       Keep in mind dont need sideways if you pay attention to First Law of SC

higgins is a injured premo returning.
Higgins is injured more than hes not, he plays one full season and people forget how much pain he caused the previous 4 or so years. Cant be seriously considering him :/

Higgins isn't even a premo. He's an average player who had one good season. Do this with every player - look at their last 4 years average and take out their best season. Then you'll get a more accurate idea of their value. It applies most in the backline but should be applied everywhere, especially to players older than 25 who suddenly jump into premo territory.
Title: Re: Planning for 2017
Post by: shaker on July 31, 2016, 01:50:59 PM
Next year I will be choosing younger players than this year to many outs of late Bartel Boyd McVeigh
Secondly I will just refuse to pick players that get tagged a lot and can't handle it Zaha Murphy Cotchin Rich and players that tag them ala Robbo
Only mid pricers that are fallen Premos like Libba will be chosen no more like Seedsman and Lonergran
Rucks well this is the first year I picked the 2 highest scoring from last year Goldy and Martin never again but to be honest I have never nailed the ruck duo ever in all the years of playing and no more ruck only loophole on the bench Goetz was a stupid mistake they have to be DPP from now on
That will do to start with and hope there will be some changes to SC like having some more mid/def options even if they don't qualify who cares but having some of the not quite premo mids with DPP would make it a bit more interesting and teams would be less clone like  ;)
Title: Re: Planning for 2017
Post by: RaisyDaisy on July 31, 2016, 02:05:10 PM
This was the first year I tried mid pricers

Never again!

GnR 100%
Title: Re: Planning for 2017
Post by: quinny88 on July 31, 2016, 02:29:19 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on July 31, 2016, 02:05:10 PM
This was the first year I tried mid pricers

Never again!

GnR 100%

Wells and Libba were worth it. Just have to go with guys that have a history of scoring well and are only cheap because of injury rather than guys you think will break out.
Title: Re: Planning for 2017
Post by: RaisyDaisy on July 31, 2016, 02:30:42 PM
Quote from: quinny88 on July 31, 2016, 02:29:19 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on July 31, 2016, 02:05:10 PM
This was the first year I tried mid pricers

Never again!

GnR 100%

Wells and Libba were worth it. Just have to go with guys that have a history of scoring well and are only cheap because of injury rather than guys you think will break out.

Yes - they're fallen premo's due to injury which is always fine

I was talking about the spuds like Seedsman, Lonergan etc that I started
Title: Re: Planning for 2017
Post by: kilbluff1985 on July 31, 2016, 02:32:08 PM
u guys think Zerrett will be a popular starting choice as mid?
Title: Re: Planning for 2017
Post by: quinny88 on July 31, 2016, 02:33:59 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on July 31, 2016, 02:30:42 PM
Quote from: quinny88 on July 31, 2016, 02:29:19 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on July 31, 2016, 02:05:10 PM
This was the first year I tried mid pricers

Never again!

GnR 100%

Wells and Libba were worth it. Just have to go with guys that have a history of scoring well and are only cheap because of injury rather than guys you think will break out.

Yes - they're fallen premo's due to injury which is always fine

I was talking about the spuds like Seedsman, Lonergan etc that I started

Yep agreed.. I went with Berger fwd and Mckenzie down back.. Season over before it started
Title: Re: Planning for 2017
Post by: quinny88 on July 31, 2016, 02:35:32 PM
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on July 31, 2016, 02:32:08 PM
u guys think Zerrett will be a popular starting choice as mid?

Probably not. Too much unknown on weather the returning players will be a positive or negative for his scoring. Will definitely be someone I keep a close eye on though. Dusty as a mid only will be tempting too
Title: Re: Planning for 2017
Post by: GoLions on July 31, 2016, 02:59:39 PM
Quote from: quinny88 on July 31, 2016, 02:35:32 PM
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on July 31, 2016, 02:32:08 PM
u guys think Zerrett will be a popular starting choice as mid?

Probably not. Too much unknown on weather the returning players will be a positive or negative for his scoring. Will definitely be someone I keep a close eye on though. Dusty as a mid only will be tempting too
Yeah, can't see myself starting Zerrett. Even if he had fwd status, I don't think he'll be able to match this year.
Title: Re: Planning for 2017
Post by: iZander on July 31, 2016, 03:39:57 PM
Quote from: quinny88 on July 31, 2016, 02:35:32 PM
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on July 31, 2016, 02:32:08 PM
u guys think Zerrett will be a popular starting choice as mid?

Probably not. Too much unknown on weather the returning players will be a positive or negative for his scoring. Will definitely be someone I keep a close eye on though. Dusty as a mid only will be tempting too
I wont leave you waiting till next year to find out. Its negative, definitely negative.
Title: Re: Planning for 2017
Post by: King_Robbo on August 01, 2016, 09:43:06 AM
My locks are:

Def: Shaw, Doc, Laird, Montagna
Mids: Danger, Hanners, Pendles, Bont
Ruck: Goldy
Forward: Lids, Dahl, Bennell

Will consider: Elliott,

Can't see myself choosing injury prone players i.e. Rocky, Gaz, Fyfe, Higgins etc unless they look cherry ripe on the track and are priced sub $500k
Title: Re: Planning for 2017
Post by: RaisyDaisy on August 01, 2016, 10:00:46 AM
Can't see yourself choosing injury prone players yet you have Bennell? :P

I'm not going to make any predictions now because let's be honest - we have no idea
Title: Re: Planning for 2017
Post by: shaker on August 01, 2016, 02:03:15 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on August 01, 2016, 10:00:46 AM
Can't see yourself choosing injury prone players yet you have Bennell? :P

I'm not going to make any predictions now because let's be honest - we have no idea

And Lids he is starting to fall in that category as well
Title: Re: Planning for 2017
Post by: crowls on August 01, 2016, 02:34:12 PM
Backs,   1 player over 500k if Def only, 1 over 500K d/m rest under 500k - no rich, mcveigh,
Mids,  Danger, Pendles, then Fyfe, selwood, stephen, bont, cripps, hanners, jpk, ward, dusty depending on price
Rucks, Gawn and Goldy/SMartin
Fwds,  Zerrett(?/M), wont select him as mid only, Bennell, Greene, Barlow (depending on who he plays for)

Title: Re: Planning for 2017
Post by: Holz on August 01, 2016, 02:38:36 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on August 01, 2016, 10:00:46 AM
Can't see yourself choosing injury prone players yet you have Bennell? :P

I'm not going to make any predictions now because let's be honest - we have no idea

he did say unless they are sub 500k and looking cherry ripe on the training track. so one of the two is true.

Shaw, Rance, Laird
Danger, Pendles, Fyfe, Dmart, Brodie
Goldy
Gunston Buddy Bennelll
Title: Re: Planning for 2017
Post by: GoLions on August 01, 2016, 06:51:03 PM
Rocky 20ppg underpriced, so he's a lock. Pendles also guaranteed a start. Rest is anyone's guess :P

EDIT: Actually, Beams will also be underpriced and can avg 120, so he will start if named round 1. Stefan struggled after that concussion, so he is also underpriced and worth considering. Beastmode will average 100+ next year, so could be a sneaky POD. Cutler should average 90, give or take.

Oh, and ZZZZZZZZZZZZORKOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO.

That is all.
Title: Re: Planning for 2017
Post by: fanTCfool on August 01, 2016, 06:52:26 PM
The two I really want to lock, Neale and Zerrett, have too much uncertainty once their 2017 teams return for me to cement them in.
Title: Re: Planning for 2017
Post by: King_Robbo on August 01, 2016, 08:45:57 PM
Quote from: shaker on August 01, 2016, 02:03:15 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on August 01, 2016, 10:00:46 AM
Can't see yourself choosing injury prone players yet you have Bennell? :P

I'm not going to make any predictions now because let's be honest - we have no idea

And Lids he is starting to fall in that category as well

Agree re Lids and Bennell but as I said, I'll only because selecting these guys IF they look cherry ripe.
My comment was more re full priced premos re Rocky, Gaz etc
Bennell for expect could be the Wells of 2016. Won't be priced as juicy as Wells this year but could easily come out and average 90-100.
Title: Re: Planning for 2017
Post by: crowls on August 01, 2016, 11:08:22 PM
i expect Bennell to be 100-108 avg.   Will be very popular choice.
GL makes a good point about Stef.   Issue is if 2nd ruck plays, scoring drops 30+points.
Brad Crouch could be undervalued as well.   worst case 95 avg with breakout possible.
Title: Re: Planning for 2017
Post by: Ricochet on August 01, 2016, 11:53:46 PM
Quote from: crowls on August 01, 2016, 11:08:22 PM
Brad Crouch could be undervalued as well.   worst case 95 avg with breakout possible.
This isn't 2016 predictions crowls :P
Title: Re: Planning for 2017
Post by: dmac07 on August 02, 2016, 05:17:18 PM
Def - likely 2 if not all 3 of Docherty, Shaw, Laird. Cheapies - Scharenberg.

Mids - Definately on Fyfe, Pendles,Danger. Maybe on Beams, Sloane, Parker.

Rucks - Probably Gawn and Goldy. Very tempted on B.Grundy!

Fwd - Depends on who gets f/m status. Will look at Dahl, Swan. Probably most unsure of fwds currently
Title: Re: Planning for 2017
Post by: GoLions on August 02, 2016, 07:55:22 PM
Quote from: dmac07 on August 02, 2016, 05:17:18 PM
Def - likely 2 if not all 3 of Docherty, Shaw, Laird. Cheapies - Scharenberg.

Mids - Definately on Fyfe, Pendles,Danger. Maybe on Beams, Sloane, Parker.

Rucks - Probably Gawn and Goldy. Very tempted on B.Grundy!

Fwd - Depends on who gets f/m status. Will look at Dahl, Swan. Probably most unsure of fwds currently
How would Swan get fwd status? Didn't he get injured round 1 as mid only?
Title: Re: Planning for 2017
Post by: iZander on August 02, 2016, 08:36:47 PM
Quote from: GoLions on August 02, 2016, 07:55:22 PM
Quote from: dmac07 on August 02, 2016, 05:17:18 PM
Def - likely 2 if not all 3 of Docherty, Shaw, Laird. Cheapies - Scharenberg.

Mids - Definately on Fyfe, Pendles,Danger. Maybe on Beams, Sloane, Parker.

Rucks - Probably Gawn and Goldy. Very tempted on B.Grundy!

Fwd - Depends on who gets f/m status. Will look at Dahl, Swan. Probably most unsure of fwds currently
How would Swan get fwd status? Didn't he get injured round 1 as mid only?
Yes he certainly did GL, im not sure why people are talking about him as a potential forward
Title: Re: Planning for 2017
Post by: batt on August 03, 2016, 06:50:49 PM
If Tippett is R/F, I'm very tempted.  His last 7 scores were:

59 in a half, 103, 79, 141, 115, 93, 101
Title: Re: Planning for 2017
Post by: quinny88 on August 04, 2016, 12:17:48 AM
Rocky gets talked up as a bargain every year but realistically his last 5 years have been

2012 - 97 avg 22 games
2013 - 109 avg 21 games
2014 - 132 avg 18 games
2015 - 101 avg 16 games
2016- 105 avg 13 games and counting

Everyone likes to believe that his 2014 year is his standard but it's not, it's a one off.
I know he's been injured a lot but that's because he's injury prone and him getting injured again and averaging 105 is more likely than him having a 130+ avg ever again unfortunately
Title: Re: Planning for 2017
Post by: Mat0369 on August 04, 2016, 12:41:27 AM
I'm not starting Rockliff next year. I reckon there is a huge chance he injures himself in the first half of the season before coming back and scoring well in the back end. He will be an upgrade target at best.
Title: Re: Planning for 2017
Post by: Holz on August 04, 2016, 11:15:58 AM
Quote from: quinny88 on August 04, 2016, 12:17:48 AM
Rocky gets talked up as a bargain every year but realistically his last 5 years have been

2012 - 97 avg 22 games
2013 - 109 avg 21 games
2014 - 132 avg 18 games
2015 - 101 avg 16 games
2016- 105 avg 13 games and counting

Everyone likes to believe that his 2014 year is his standard but it's not, it's a one off.
I know he's been injured a lot but that's because he's injury prone and him getting injured again and averaging 105 is more likely than him having a 130+ avg ever again unfortunately

He does have a 128 average since coming back from injury. with 4/9 130+ games

2011 he averaged 114
2012 he was stuffed around and played forward
2013: Super Gun
2014: injured, but knocked out for a 0 this could happen to everyone remove this 108.
2015: injured but coming back into form with 128 in the second half.

so pretty much looks like 110 at worst. With 120+ as best. certainly picking him.
Title: Re: Planning for 2017
Post by: iZander on August 04, 2016, 11:44:02 AM
Quote from: Holz on August 04, 2016, 11:15:58 AM
Quote from: quinny88 on August 04, 2016, 12:17:48 AM
Rocky gets talked up as a bargain every year but realistically his last 5 years have been

2012 - 97 avg 22 games
2013 - 109 avg 21 games
2014 - 132 avg 18 games
2015 - 101 avg 16 games
2016- 105 avg 13 games and counting

Everyone likes to believe that his 2014 year is his standard but it's not, it's a one off.
I know he's been injured a lot but that's because he's injury prone and him getting injured again and averaging 105 is more likely than him having a 130+ avg ever again unfortunately

He does have a 128 average since coming back from injury. with 4/9 130+ games

2011 he averaged 114
2012 he was stuffed around and played forward
2013: Super Gun
2014: injured, but knocked out for a 0 this could happen to everyone remove this 108.
2015: injured but coming back into form with 128 in the second half.

so pretty much looks like 110 at worst. With 120+ as best. certainly picking him.

No, worst is him being injured, which is probable haha 110 would be a very good outcome haha
Title: Re: Planning for 2017
Post by: Gigantor on August 04, 2016, 11:46:17 AM
If he averages 115-120 in the last four he will be priced around 580-600k for next year. Not sure if I want to pay that for someone who is so brittle...
Title: Re: Planning for 2017
Post by: RaisyDaisy on August 04, 2016, 12:44:40 PM
The reality with Rocky is, that you need to factor in missed games and trades used as well

Dreaming if you think he will line up Rd1 and play 22 games. In 7 years, only 2 has he played enough games and averaged well

No doubt he can rack them up, but I'm not starting him again
Title: Re: Planning for 2017
Post by: GoLions on August 04, 2016, 12:51:39 PM
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Title: Re: Planning for 2017
Post by: Jroo on August 04, 2016, 01:11:11 PM
‏@FantasyFreako: H&A games missed since 2014 - Ablett (26), Fyfe (20) and Rockliff (15). #SuperCoach #AFLFantasy
Title: Re: Planning for 2017
Post by: GoLions on August 04, 2016, 01:12:22 PM
Rocky > Fyfe, Ablett confirmed.
Title: Re: Planning for 2017
Post by: Holz on August 04, 2016, 02:37:52 PM
Quote from: JROO8 on August 04, 2016, 01:11:11 PM
‏@FantasyFreako: H&A games missed since 2014 - Ablett (26), Fyfe (20) and Rockliff (15). #SuperCoach #AFLFantasy

true but Rocky is minor injuries which are more annoying then big ones. Would rather my guy play 11 games then get a season injury then 5 good weeks a minor 2 weeks injury another 8 good weeks then a 3-4 week injury.

Probably avoiding Ablett for this reason. Fyfe is locked, Rocky is a maybe.
Title: Re: Planning for 2017
Post by: Mat0369 on August 04, 2016, 03:50:04 PM
Fyfe is a bit reckless and can either get suspended or gets those nagging injuries which aren't bad enough to miss but still hurt his performance on the field. Look at the corkies this year, the thing is though he wasn't missing chunks of 2-3 games through the year, it is more 1 here and there.
Title: Re: Planning for 2017
Post by: crowls on August 04, 2016, 06:03:35 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on August 04, 2016, 12:44:40 PM
The reality with Rocky is, that you need to factor in missed games and trades used as well

Dreaming if you think he will line up Rd1 and play 22 games. In 7 years, only 2 has he played enough games and averaged well

No doubt he can rack them up, but I'm not starting him again
Love the bloke but at best a late season upgrade option.   If i can wait until round 17 for Pendles this year I can definitely wait for Rocky next season.   
Looking at my trades this year.    Hall, Barlow, Rocky, Fyfe, Ablett, Deledio all consumed trades.     Other bad decisions,  McVeigh, Rich,
Title: Re: Planning for 2017
Post by: enzedder on August 04, 2016, 09:50:24 PM
I'll be on Lockcliff. Probably twice but hey I'll still have another 28 trades.
Title: Re: Planning for 2017
Post by: quinny88 on August 04, 2016, 10:34:08 PM
Who I start in my side largely depends on weather the Essendon players receive discounts or not.
Not expecting a huge discount like players that missed a season through injury but surely they get something taken off their price? Otherwise no one would touch them after being out of the game for 18 months by the time round 1 rolls around.

If there are discounts there is some great value in Hooker, Hurley, Hibberd, Heppell, Myers, and possibly even Jobe.
Then there's Ryder at Port who would make a great F/R link for the season.

Assuming there are no discounts at all on those guys the players i would have at this early stage are (assuming no positional changes)

D: Docherty, Shaw, Laird, Scharenberg, rookies
M: Dangerfield, Pendlebury, Fyfe, Beams, D.Swallow, Omeara, Freeman, Rookies
R: Goldstein, Naitanui
F: Deledio, Dahlhaus, Roughead, Bennell, Rookies
Title: Re: Planning for 2017
Post by: Gigantor on August 04, 2016, 11:01:18 PM
Quote from: quinny88 on August 04, 2016, 10:34:08 PM
Who I start in my side largely depends on weather the Essendon players receive discounts or not.
Not expecting a huge discount like players that missed a season through injury but surely they get something taken off their price? Otherwise no one would touch them after being out of the game for 18 months by the time round 1 rolls around.

If there are discounts there is some great value in Hooker, Hurley, Hibberd, Heppell, Myers, and possibly even Jobe.
Then there's Ryder at Port who would make a great F/R link for the season.

Assuming there are no discounts at all on those guys the players i would have at this early stage are (assuming no positional changes)

D: Docherty, Shaw, Laird, Scharenberg, rookies
M: Dangerfield, Pendlebury, Fyfe, Beams, D.Swallow, Omeara, Freeman, Rookies
R: Goldstein, Naitanui
F: Deledio, Dahlhaus, Roughead, Bennell, Rookies

Forgot about Ryder, would be a lock if DPP, after the way Trengove has performed there is no way they would play Ryder and Lobb in the same team
Title: Re: Planning for 2017
Post by: RaisyDaisy on August 05, 2016, 08:39:38 AM
Quite a lot of risk in that midfield Quinny!

I've learnt my lesson this year - Im starting durable players!
Title: Re: Planning for 2017
Post by: _wato on August 05, 2016, 09:59:10 AM
It's gonna be tough, because there's 6 super premium mids I really wanna start.

Danger, Pendles, Hanners, Fyfe, Rocky, Beams
Title: Re: Planning for 2017
Post by: RaisyDaisy on August 05, 2016, 10:00:53 AM
Extremely early days, but at this stage I'd say I would be starting Danger, Pendles, Fyfe and one of JPK or Hanners. After those 4, who knows for now
Title: Re: Planning for 2017
Post by: King_Robbo on August 05, 2016, 07:04:50 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on August 05, 2016, 10:00:53 AM
Extremely early days, but at this stage I'd say I would be starting Danger, Pendles, Fyfe and one of JPK or Hanners. After those 4, who knows for now

I'm with you on the first three. I think Fyfe will be too hard to resist.
Can see Bont and Cripps going 115 next year. Both contested beasts and you can see that they are gradually improving their games and SC scores year by year. One will be in my starting side
Title: Re: Planning for 2017
Post by: quinny88 on August 07, 2016, 12:34:05 AM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on August 05, 2016, 08:39:38 AM
Quite a lot of risk in that midfield Quinny!

I've learnt my lesson this year - Im starting durable players!

Certainly is a lot of risk but Fyfe and Beams are 2 super premos that will have huge discounts and Swallow and Omeara will be too cheap to ignore. A lot can change between now and the start of next year though haha
Title: Re: Planning for 2017
Post by: crowls on August 07, 2016, 04:58:24 PM
how would people rate this years guys returning from injury.(?/10)
ablett - 7  still highest average of returning players
rockliff - 6  106 avg but cost me trades
libba - 7.5  solid performance and in line with expectations up to byes.  Cost points and cash for those that held him.
crouch - 5  slow return,  but average 109sc and just under 30 disposals last five weeks.  anybody who went libba to crouch during byes would be happy.   Expect him to be 105+ player next year.
wells - 8.5  101avg,  but still cost trades, those who traded him at byes maximised his cash and points.


What is noticable is all of them have missed games.   Got injured again and cost us trades and lost points in bench cover.      For 2017 any body coming back from injury has to be seen as a stepping stone.   

Title: Re: Planning for 2017
Post by: King_Robbo on August 09, 2016, 11:43:32 AM
Starting to think my first two mids are going to be Bont and Cripps. These two could easily be ultra premos next year.
Title: Re: Planning for 2017
Post by: GoLions on August 09, 2016, 11:45:01 AM
Quote from: King_Robbo on August 09, 2016, 11:43:32 AM
Starting to think my first two mids are going to be Bont and Cripps. These two could easily be ultra premos next year.
Yeah, Bont is looking pretty tasty ay, not sure on Cripps though.
Title: Re: Planning for 2017
Post by: fanTCfool on August 09, 2016, 11:52:19 AM
Quote from: GoLions on August 09, 2016, 11:45:01 AM
Quote from: King_Robbo on August 09, 2016, 11:43:32 AM
Starting to think my first two mids are going to be Bont and Cripps. These two could easily be ultra premos next year.
Yeah, Bont is looking pretty tasty ay, not sure on Cripps though.

I don't mind Cripps, he's been well under the radar with Bont taking the attention at the moment.
Three around Avg. 126, hasn't been under 100 since Round 15 and 10/18 tons this year
He finished similarly in 2015, so perhaps he is in the JPK mould of being a second-half specialist
Title: Re: Planning for 2017
Post by: crowls on August 09, 2016, 12:49:01 PM
Quote from: GoLions on August 09, 2016, 11:45:01 AM
Quote from: King_Robbo on August 09, 2016, 11:43:32 AM
Starting to think my first two mids are going to be Bont and Cripps. These two could easily be ultra premos next year.
Yeah, Bont is looking pretty tasty ay, not sure on Cripps though.
Can see Bonts improving his consistency and making super prem.    Cripps still questionable, maybe another year.
Title: Re: Planning for 2017
Post by: Holz on August 09, 2016, 01:04:45 PM
Pendles Fyfe Sloane Bont Rocky Beams

going hard with Danger the only missing piece.

Pendles, sloane, Bont, Rocky all started slow

Fyfe and Beams obvious.
Title: Re: Planning for 2017
Post by: _wato on August 23, 2016, 04:30:52 PM
Had a really good think about this today, finishing work early.

Laird, Doc, Heater
Pendles, Fyfe, Danger, Hanners, Beams
Goldy Gawn
Dahl, 1 of Gunston/Buddy my premiums to start with.

Lower end players / rookies

Shaz, Thurlow
Swallow, Jaegar, Myers, Fiorini
F/R DPP
Elliot, McCarthy, McKay, Turner

Can only go one of Rocky/Beams imo
Title: Re: Planning for 2017
Post by: GoLions on August 23, 2016, 04:34:03 PM
Quote from: _wato on August 23, 2016, 04:30:52 PM
Can only go one of Rocky/Beams imo
And here I was, all this time, thinking that you were one of the good guys around here
Title: Re: Planning for 2017
Post by: _wato on August 23, 2016, 04:37:14 PM
Also no older players whatsoever or questionable players with low TOG and positional or scoring issues.

Only the true premium scorers. No players who get good DT and low SC. too many times in the past I end up with dodge players who have had any one of these issues... Shiel, Titch, Lewis, Rich etc

Only players who give it 100% each week and don't decide to show up when they feel like it. Not getting a player who will accumulate and don't tackle or vice versa. Being picky but I hated some of the decisions I made this year.

Also only getting mids who play a good inside game and outside as well, not one who will rest forward each week or play more outside where they could go quarters without scoring..

Title: Re: Planning for 2017
Post by: _wato on August 23, 2016, 04:40:39 PM
Quote from: GoLions on August 23, 2016, 04:34:03 PM
Quote from: _wato on August 23, 2016, 04:30:52 PM
Can only go one of Rocky/Beams imo
And here I was, all this time, thinking that you were one of the good guys around here

Hahaha I would love both man but it seems 90% of the time only one of these blokes is on the park at any one time. One is always injured. I still have no idea how they both score together and with the emergence of all the Brissy's young mids (and further depth) I have a feeling with Beams back Rocky spends even further time up forward. Watched the Geelong game and he was up forward for ages. It's Brisbane's huge downfall and Rocky could kick 30 goals a year up there.

Beams Zorko Rich Robbo Matho Bastinac etc could cover for him easy.
Title: Re: Planning for 2017
Post by: enzedder on August 23, 2016, 07:10:05 PM
Quote from: _wato on August 23, 2016, 04:30:52 PM
Had a really good think about this today, finishing work early.

Laird, Doc, Heater
Pendles, Fyfe, Danger, Hanners, Beams
Goldy Gawn
Dahl, 1 of Gunston/Buddy my premiums to start with.

Can only go one of Rocky/Beams imo
Looks good mate. Agree with all.
I haven't really changed my thinking at all since my earlier post in this thread about 3 weeks back...

Def- Shaw, Docherty, Laird, Rance
Mids- Dangerfield, Pendles, Fyfe, Bont, Rocky
Ruck- Gawn, Goldy
Fwd- ?

Watch on Beams.
Breakout possibility- Acres.
Title: Re: Planning for 2017
Post by: quinny88 on August 23, 2016, 07:45:43 PM
Rucks are gonna be a bit stale. Everyone will have Gawn and Goldy. Nicnat the only other decent ruck and he will be out for the season. Grundy probably the only other guy that slightly tempts me
Title: Re: Planning for 2017
Post by: kilbluff1985 on August 23, 2016, 07:54:11 PM
Def: Shaw, Doch, Rance, Hurley
Mid: Fyfe, GAJ, Heppell, Danger, Pendles
Ruck: Gawn, Goldy
Fwd: McCarthy, Ryder if DPP, hard to say on the rest without knowing positions
Title: Re: Planning for 2017
Post by: quinny88 on August 23, 2016, 07:59:53 PM
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on August 23, 2016, 07:54:11 PM
Def: Shaw, Doch, Rance, Hurley
Mid: Fyfe, GAJ, Heppell, Danger, Pendles
Ruck: Gawn, Goldy
Fwd: McCarthy, Ryder if DPP, hard to say on the rest without knowing positions

Is that assuming there will be discounts on Hurley, Heppell and Ryder or are you going with them anyway?
Title: Re: Planning for 2017
Post by: GoLions on August 23, 2016, 08:15:09 PM
Quote from: quinny88 on August 23, 2016, 07:59:53 PM
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on August 23, 2016, 07:54:11 PM
Def: Shaw, Doch, Rance, Hurley
Mid: Fyfe, GAJ, Heppell, Danger, Pendles
Ruck: Gawn, Goldy
Fwd: McCarthy, Ryder if DPP, hard to say on the rest without knowing positions

Is that assuming there will be discounts on Hurley, Heppell and Ryder or are you going with them anyway?
Well, I can't see many Bombers players getting picked by anyone if not discounted, except maybe Myers
Title: Re: Planning for 2017
Post by: kilbluff1985 on August 23, 2016, 08:23:18 PM
i think all the banned players will come back highly motivated and fresh after having a year off
Title: Re: Planning for 2017
Post by: quinny88 on August 23, 2016, 11:35:00 PM
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on August 23, 2016, 08:23:18 PM
i think all the banned players will come back highly motivated and fresh after having a year off

Or they could be off the pace and take a while to get back into the swing of things. Time will tell I guess, but with no discounts I'll be passing. If there are discounts then Heppell, Ryder, Hooker, Myers, Watson, Hurley and Hibberd will all be on my radar
Title: Re: Planning for 2017
Post by: LordSneeze on August 24, 2016, 11:46:56 AM
I might pick a defender or Fwd if one is priced well, especially seeing as there are a huge number of popular FWD picks that will likely move to be Mid only this year.
Title: Re: Planning for 2017
Post by: iZander on August 24, 2016, 12:48:02 PM
If Hibberd goes to melbourne hes a lock for me.
Had a poor year the last year he played as it is and will now join a very defensive friendly team so should score well :P

A discount would be a bonus!
Title: Re: Planning for 2017
Post by: crowls on August 25, 2016, 05:20:03 PM
Quote from: _wato on August 23, 2016, 04:40:39 PM
Quote from: GoLions on August 23, 2016, 04:34:03 PM
Quote from: _wato on August 23, 2016, 04:30:52 PM
Can only go one of Rocky/Beams imo
And here I was, all this time, thinking that you were one of the good guys around here

Hahaha I would love both man but it seems 90% of the time only one of these blokes is on the park at any one time. One is always injured. I still have no idea how they both score together and with the emergence of all the Brissy's young mids (and further depth) I have a feeling with Beams back Rocky spends even further time up forward. Watched the Geelong game and he was up forward for ages. It's Brisbane's huge downfall and Rocky could kick 30 goals a year up there.

Beams Zorko Rich Robbo Matho Bastinac etc could cover for him easy.
Wato,   Beams and Rocky ok as Rocky will be playing for someone else in 2017.
Title: Re: Planning for 2017
Post by: batt on August 26, 2016, 09:14:27 PM
You just know the Bombers will fade mid year, particularly with a season missing.
Title: Re: Planning for 2017
Post by: kilbluff1985 on August 27, 2016, 10:51:32 PM
Brayden Fiorini
Title: Re: Planning for 2017
Post by: meow meow on August 27, 2016, 11:34:20 PM
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on August 27, 2016, 10:51:32 PM
Brayden Fiorini

Will probably break the record for most disposals in a season next year.
Title: Re: Planning for 2017
Post by: fanTCfool on August 28, 2016, 12:06:18 AM
Quote from: meow meow on August 27, 2016, 11:34:20 PM
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on August 27, 2016, 10:51:32 PM
Brayden Fiorini

Will probably break the record for most disposals in a season next year.

But he'll be priced at an awkward 85.5 -30% which is a touch expensive for a bloke who has played just 2 games, looks a gun though
Title: Re: Planning for 2017
Post by: meow meow on August 28, 2016, 12:29:50 AM
Quote from: fanTCfool on August 28, 2016, 12:06:18 AM
Quote from: meow meow on August 27, 2016, 11:34:20 PM
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on August 27, 2016, 10:51:32 PM
Brayden Fiorini

Will probably break the record for most disposals in a season next year.

But he'll be priced at an awkward 85.5 -30% which is a touch expensive for a bloke who has played just 2 games, looks a gun though

Pretty sure he played some games before he got drafted. He's been a possession machine since birth and has racked them up regardless of the quality of opposition. 320K for a guy who'll average 120 isn't too bad.

Title: Re: Planning for 2017
Post by: gloryboy on September 01, 2016, 12:26:54 PM
Considering
DEF - Shaw, Laird, Houli, Scharenberg (wont start Doch at top price)
MID - Pendles, Beams, Fyfe, Jaeger, Rocky, Prestia, David Swallow, Freeman
RU - Sandi, Stef Martin, Goldy (or set/forget with Gawn)
FWD - R Gray, Dahl, Hall, Bennell, Barlow, Roughy

Should be a bit of value there.
Title: Re: Planning for 2017
Post by: meow meow on October 21, 2016, 02:20:09 PM
All aboard the Shaun Higgins bandwagon! I'll be driving this locomotive all preseason long.
Title: Re: Planning for 2017
Post by: kilbluff1985 on October 22, 2016, 07:01:28 AM
how much do u think JOM will be
Title: Re: Planning for 2017
Post by: Gigantor on October 22, 2016, 12:01:20 PM
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on October 22, 2016, 07:01:28 AM
how much do u think JOM will be

189k
Title: Re: Planning for 2017
Post by: ArminTamzarian on October 26, 2016, 12:03:35 PM
Hey fellas, any word on when the '17 FanPlanner will be released? The '16 one was already out by this time last year and was top notch. Cheers.
Title: Re: Planning for 2017
Post by: Football Factory on October 26, 2016, 05:17:30 PM
I asked a couple of weeks ago, no response.

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Title: Re: Planning for 2017
Post by: quinny88 on October 26, 2016, 07:12:46 PM
Half the prices/positions are way off anyway. Better just to wait for SuperCoach to realease the team picker which happens in December from memory
Title: Re: Planning for 2017
Post by: LordSneeze on November 21, 2016, 10:37:00 AM
So when do people start planning for next year?
Title: Re: Planning for 2017
Post by: batt on November 21, 2016, 11:14:48 AM
Quote from: LordSneeze on November 21, 2016, 10:37:00 AM
So when do people start planning for next year?
Earliest is about January for me.
Title: Re: Planning for 2017
Post by: GoLions on November 21, 2016, 11:18:31 AM
Quote from: batt on November 21, 2016, 11:14:48 AM
Quote from: LordSneeze on November 21, 2016, 10:37:00 AM
So when do people start planning for next year?
Earliest is about January for me.
Around May of this year
Title: Re: Planning for 2017
Post by: Ringo on November 21, 2016, 11:29:01 AM
When Herald Sun Team Picker comes out with the real prices.

Formulate ideas now but until this comes out no real planning can take place.
Title: Re: Planning for 2017
Post by: _wato on November 21, 2016, 12:20:43 PM
Quote from: Ringo on November 21, 2016, 11:29:01 AM
When Herald Sun Team Picker comes out with the real prices.

Formulate ideas now but until this comes out no real planning can take place.
Title: Re: Planning for 2017
Post by: RaisyDaisy on November 21, 2016, 01:46:21 PM
I'll have a sticky beak in December when SC Gold is open with prices etc but I won't give it any real serious thought til late Jan/Early Feb

Learnt a while ago not to waste so much time lol
Title: Re: Planning for 2017
Post by: LordSneeze on November 21, 2016, 02:25:08 PM
Nice. I do some setup on fixtures etc but don't look at players until Gold opens and we have prices.

For example what is your plan with Port and GC having a R9 bye and the R12 bye only having 4 teams.
Title: Re: Planning for 2017
Post by: _wato on November 21, 2016, 04:12:46 PM
Quote from: LordSneeze on November 21, 2016, 02:25:08 PM
Nice. I do some setup on fixtures etc but don't look at players until Gold opens and we have prices.

For example what is your plan with Port and GC having a R9 bye and the R12 bye only having 4 teams.

I haven't had time but which premos look to have a good draw early that you'd consider? Or even a yearly long good draw?

Re byes not sure yet. Don't really wanna start any players from either team apart from potential rookies. Might look to bring in a Gaz/Gray type etc if they are firing though before the rd 12 byes.
Title: Re: Planning for 2017
Post by: RaisyDaisy on November 21, 2016, 04:21:19 PM
Why are people turned off the Port GC bye?

I won't be starting Gray (Because there will be too much value in the mids) but GAJ I'd start

Will be a piece of cake to cover him in R9, and get all of his scores in the first 8 rounds plus (hopefully) save a trade by not having to get him in after R9
Title: Re: Planning for 2017
Post by: LordSneeze on November 21, 2016, 04:26:53 PM
Quote from: _wato on November 21, 2016, 04:12:46 PM
Quote from: LordSneeze on November 21, 2016, 02:25:08 PM
Nice. I do some setup on fixtures etc but don't look at players until Gold opens and we have prices.

For example what is your plan with Port and GC having a R9 bye and the R12 bye only having 4 teams.

I haven't had time but which premos look to have a good draw early that you'd consider? Or even a yearly long good draw?

Re byes not sure yet. Don't really wanna start any players from either team apart from potential rookies. Might look to bring in a Gaz/Gray type etc if they are firing though before the rd 12 byes.
Haven't got onto it yet, something I will be starting in the next few weeks.
Title: Re: Planning for 2017
Post by: Ringo on November 21, 2016, 04:33:34 PM
Planning for Byes etc at times can at times come back to bite you.  I have learned over the years that to start planning for byes about 4/5 rounds before the actual byes.

Do not think it is an issue with Port and GC having the Round 9 byes and am waiting to see what HS will do with them as well as the Rd 12 byes. 
Title: Re: Planning for 2017
Post by: _wato on November 21, 2016, 05:19:57 PM
Gonna start GAJ RD??

Good luck with that mate
Title: Re: Planning for 2017
Post by: RaisyDaisy on November 21, 2016, 05:28:43 PM
Quote from: _wato on November 21, 2016, 05:19:57 PM
Gonna start GAJ RD??

Good luck with that mate

No idea if I will man, just more so saying that his bye wouldn't phase me if I did

I won't even think about 2017 SC for at least another month lol
Title: Re: Planning for 2017
Post by: _wato on November 21, 2016, 05:30:30 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on November 21, 2016, 05:28:43 PM
Quote from: _wato on November 21, 2016, 05:19:57 PM
Gonna start GAJ RD??

Good luck with that mate

No idea if I will man, just more so saying that his bye wouldn't phase me if I did

I won't even think about 2017 SC for at least another month lol

Ahh fair enough yeah I agree.

Haha same here but I will definitely think about the core premos I want. Structure and all rookies / cheap discounted players can wait lol
Title: Re: Planning for 2017
Post by: Ringo on November 21, 2016, 06:21:20 PM
Depending on prices I would expect this to be the midfield of most sides Beams, Fyfe, Hanners, Danger and then one of Sloane, Parker, Rocky etc.  5 real premos if Beams and Fyfe are discounted.
Title: Re: Planning for 2017
Post by: RaisyDaisy on November 21, 2016, 07:41:10 PM
Have started Pendles every single year I've played, and that won't change

Danger, Pendles, Fyfe, Beams would be the locks off the top of my head
Title: Re: Planning for 2017
Post by: Peter on November 23, 2016, 07:27:06 AM
First year without Pendles and will be the last
Title: Re: Planning for 2017
Post by: Ringo on November 24, 2016, 02:56:06 PM
Fanplanner is now up. Obviously only m0ntys bets guess at prices. Beams at $300k and Fyfe at $455kand locks if near those prices. Danger most expensive at $705k. Ablett not good value at $615k.
Just a warning though remember how far out prices were when they real SC prices came out.
Title: Re: Planning for 2017
Post by: Ricochet on November 24, 2016, 03:04:56 PM
Quote from: Ringo on November 24, 2016, 02:56:06 PM
Fanplanner is now up. Obviously only m0ntys bets guess at prices. Beams at $300k and Fyfe at $455kand locks if near those prices. Danger most expensive at $705k. Ablett not good value at $615k.
Just a warning though remember how far out prices were when they real SC prices came out.
Yeh still needs a decent update i think. Zerrett, Mitch Robbo, Dusty, etc are still forwards. Even Hunter is a forward??
Title: Re: Planning for 2017
Post by: GoLions on November 24, 2016, 03:06:50 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on November 24, 2016, 03:04:56 PM
Quote from: Ringo on November 24, 2016, 02:56:06 PM
Fanplanner is now up. Obviously only m0ntys bets guess at prices. Beams at $300k and Fyfe at $455kand locks if near those prices. Danger most expensive at $705k. Ablett not good value at $615k.
Just a warning though remember how far out prices were when they real SC prices came out.
Yeh still needs a decent update i think. Zerrett, Mitch Robbo, Dusty, etc are still forwards. Even Hunter is a forward??
I'd cream
Title: Re: Planning for 2017
Post by: AaronKirk on November 24, 2016, 09:40:10 PM
Anyone considering Patrick Cripps as a starter in '17 put a line through him.

Has back stress fractures and is out for 12 weeks.

EDIT: I'm also hearing that this morning Harley Bennell has re-injured his calf.
Title: Re: Planning for 2017
Post by: Ringo on November 25, 2016, 01:48:33 PM
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Bad news for @freodockers fans, Kim Hagdorn says it looks like @HarleyBennell has done his calf again #freo #perth #AFL

Reports he will miss part of pre-season so we await further reports,
Title: Re: Planning for 2017
Post by: Sabretooth Tigers on November 27, 2016, 02:13:42 AM
Quote from: Ringo on November 24, 2016, 02:56:06 PM
Fanplanner is now up. Obviously only m0ntys bets guess at prices. Beams at $300k and Fyfe at $455kand locks if near those prices. Danger most expensive at $705k. Ablett not good value at $615k.
Just a warning though remember how far out prices were when they real SC prices came out.

:)

More than happy to say I've been around this site for a few years now.  And as tragic a footy tragic as I, will  thankfully take Monty's footy prices and hold a minimum of 650 k over in my team selections. Most seasons it appears that we are 1 prem  shorter when the 1st Herald/Sun SC prices come out in comparison to our F/P team and it's really just a bit of fun until near seasons start anyway. Since Nov 16 2015 I've had a right knee replacement followed by a left ankle fusion followed by a left knee replacement on Oct 31. So I've definitely got showerloads of time on my hands before going back to work next year. Even with those surgeries I could still almost get a game with my beloved Tiges.  Cheers and a lotsa laughs to all, and Go Tiges !!     

  ;)
Title: Re: Planning for 2017
Post by: Money Shot on November 27, 2016, 03:38:16 PM
What are people's thoughts on Jackson Ramsay as a cheap defender this year?
Title: Re: Planning for 2017
Post by: kilbluff1985 on November 28, 2016, 12:01:05 AM
TEAM NAME: FIGJAM
DEF: Z. Williams, B. Smith, R. Murphy, M. Hibberd, M. Hurley, C. Hooker (L. Ryan, M. Scharenberg)
MID: P. Dangerfield, S. Pendlebury, T. Rockliff, N. Fyfe, D. Heppell, D. Beams, W. Hoskin-Elliott, K. Mutch (D. Clarke, Z. Fisher, H. Balic)
RUC: T. Goldstein, P. Ryder (D. Simpson)
FWD: D. Martin, M. Robinson, D. Smith, T. Colyer, M. Clark, C. McCarthy (J. Simpkin, J. Stewart)
CASH LEFT: $366,800

just messing with structure right now
Title: Re: Planning for 2017
Post by: _wato on November 28, 2016, 12:46:57 PM
Quote from: Money Shot on November 27, 2016, 03:38:16 PM
What are people's thoughts on Jackson Ramsay as a cheap defender this year?

Very interesting. CFC rate him very highly.
But we now have an abundance of half backs/back pockets so think he plays more as a lockdown defender to let Howe roam.
Don't think he'd be a great get for fantasy, but definitely a very talented player.
Title: Re: Planning for 2017
Post by: Money Shot on November 28, 2016, 05:11:17 PM
Quote from: _wato on November 28, 2016, 12:46:57 PM
Quote from: Money Shot on November 27, 2016, 03:38:16 PM
What are people's thoughts on Jackson Ramsay as a cheap defender this year?

Very interesting. CFC rate him very highly.
But we now have an abundance of half backs/back pockets so think he plays more as a lockdown defender to let Howe roam.
Don't think he'd be a great get for fantasy, but definitely a very talented player.
Thanks my mate was telling me that this was going to be his breakout year before he got injured! and looking on fan planner he is going to be cheap
Title: Re: Planning for 2017
Post by: Money Shot on November 29, 2016, 11:48:08 AM
TEAM NAME: The Sesh
DEF: D. Swallow, R. Murphy, S. Higgins, M. Hibberd, M. Hurley, C. Hooker (G. Logue, M. Scharenberg)
MID: P. Dangerfield, S. Pendlebury, T. Rockliff, N. Fyfe, D. Heppell, J. O'Meara, H. Bennell, D. Beams (O. Florent, N. Freeman, J. Gallucci)
RUC: M. Gawn, T. Goldstein (D. Simpson)
FWD: L. Hunter, J. Roughead, J. Elliott, N. Hrovat, B. Ainsworth, T. Taranto (C. McCarthy, J. Simpkin)
CASH LEFT: $69,900

Team I put together this morning...

Obviously I wont be able to afford it when the real prices come out but I can dream!
Title: Re: Planning for 2017
Post by: Ricochet on November 29, 2016, 04:21:00 PM
http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/supercoach-news/supercoach-afl-2017-we-look-at-some-of-the-draftees-that-could-be-key-cash-cows/news-story/93f52945cb4482ba5cbcb98ed7b48309

QuoteATTENTION, SUPERCOACH 2016 GOLD USERS: THE SUPERCOACH 2017 TEAM PICKER LAUNCHES ON MONDAY. START PLANNING YOUR LINE-UP

;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Planning for 2017
Post by: PiPies on November 29, 2016, 06:20:54 PM
Looks like a premiums article so no access here. Team Pickers opens Monday 5th December? Awesome.
Title: Re: Planning for 2017
Post by: kilbluff1985 on November 29, 2016, 08:05:01 PM
no leaks on position like usual?
Title: Re: Planning for 2017
Post by: The_Captain on November 30, 2016, 01:35:23 PM
Quote from: Money Shot on November 27, 2016, 03:38:16 PM
What are people's thoughts on Jackson Ramsay as a cheap defender this year?

Only ever got games when they had a large number of injuries... Cant see him in the best 30, so unless serious injury strikes them again, cant see him getting a start.
Title: Re: Planning for 2017
Post by: Ricochet on November 30, 2016, 01:37:56 PM
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on November 29, 2016, 08:05:01 PM
no leaks on position like usual?
Think this may be part of the reason SuperCoach are opening so early, to get ahead of Fantasy.
Title: Re: Planning for 2017
Post by: Gigantor on November 30, 2016, 03:46:32 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on November 30, 2016, 03:22:06 PM
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2016-11-30/eagles-ruck-blow-lycett-to-miss-start-of-2017

Actually glad we got Petrie now

Lycett won't be back til mid season now  :-[

Giles and Petrie!

Giles - 278k (fanplanner price of 185k is way out)
Vardy - 230k

Worth a look? Would probably consider Giles if DPP but if not I can't see myself leaving out one of Gawn/Goldy and he's to expensive for R3.
Vardy's JS is probably a bit questionable to be a real consideration




Title: Re: Planning for 2017
Post by: Gandalf123 on December 01, 2016, 10:10:34 PM
What's heeney priced at? Very keen on him this year
Title: Re: Planning for 2017
Post by: Gigantor on December 01, 2016, 10:15:03 PM
Quote from: Gandalf123 on December 01, 2016, 10:10:34 PM
What's heeney priced at? Very keen on him this year

430k

A bit awkward, would need to become a keeper at that price
Title: Re: Planning for 2017
Post by: Gandalf123 on December 01, 2016, 10:52:59 PM
Quote from: Gigantor on December 01, 2016, 10:15:03 PM
Quote from: Gandalf123 on December 01, 2016, 10:10:34 PM
What's heeney priced at? Very keen on him this year

430k

A bit awkward, would need to become a keeper at that price

Hmm, might be my POD punt this year
Title: Re: Planning for 2017
Post by: fanTCfool on December 01, 2016, 11:06:57 PM
Quote from: Gandalf123 on December 01, 2016, 10:52:59 PM
Quote from: Gigantor on December 01, 2016, 10:15:03 PM
Quote from: Gandalf123 on December 01, 2016, 10:10:34 PM
What's heeney priced at? Very keen on him this year

430k

A bit awkward, would need to become a keeper at that price

Hmm, might be my POD punt this year

Will Heeney be M, F or M/F though?
Title: Re: Planning for 2017
Post by: Gandalf123 on December 01, 2016, 11:20:36 PM
Quote from: fanTCfool on December 01, 2016, 11:06:57 PM
Quote from: Gandalf123 on December 01, 2016, 10:52:59 PM
Quote from: Gigantor on December 01, 2016, 10:15:03 PM
Quote from: Gandalf123 on December 01, 2016, 10:10:34 PM
What's heeney priced at? Very keen on him this year

430k

A bit awkward, would need to become a keeper at that price

Hmm, might be my POD punt this year

Will Heeney be M, F or M/F though?

Only really went into the midfield proper in the finals series so best case M/F but will still jump on if he is just a forward
Title: Re: Planning for 2017
Post by: _wato on December 01, 2016, 11:24:07 PM
Heeney is a deadset lock
Should play high half forward wing and fill in the void left by Titchell

Title: Re: Planning for 2017
Post by: Ringo on December 02, 2016, 09:30:44 AM
Fantasy Freako ‏@FantasyFreako 17m17 minutes ago

There will be 119 senior listed DPP's to choose from in #SuperCoach and #AFLFantasy. #2017AFLProspectus

Bring on Monday so we can find out.
Title: Re: Planning for 2017
Post by: LordSneeze on December 02, 2016, 11:41:35 AM
I do not see how Heeney is in any sense of the word a "lock"

I expect him to be a M/F DPP with a starting price at an average of 80
If you look at a FWD structure you really want to pick starting players that will average 100+ and rookies that will get 70+ allowing keepers and maximum cash generation.

I would say he has about a 10% chance of hitting a 100 average and is more likely to come in around the 90 mark. He has proven he can score highly  (3x 120+ & 2x  100-120), but 2 of the 120+ where when he kicked bags of 4 & 5. He had 12 scores under 80 (very toby greene style) which is poor.
For me I won't be picking him as a starter as I want to see more consistency in his scores pushing the sub 80s to 80+, if he looks like he is doing this then he is a great option as an upgrade target.

Essentially the pricepoint he is at and the historical non consistency make him a really risky starting option, but has huge potential as an upgrade target if he is showing consistency in a wing role. without any HFF run with roles..
Title: Re: Planning for 2017
Post by: Gigantor on December 02, 2016, 01:03:43 PM
Quote from: Ringo on December 02, 2016, 09:30:44 AM
Fantasy Freako ‏@FantasyFreako 17m17 minutes ago

There will be 119 senior listed DPP's to choose from in #SuperCoach and #AFLFantasy. #2017AFLProspectus

Bring on Monday so we can find out.

Down from 133 this year
Title: Re: Planning for 2017
Post by: Peter on December 04, 2016, 03:14:16 PM
Good luck for Heeney selectors - a miss for me
Title: Re: Planning for 2017
Post by: Sabretooth Tigers on December 05, 2016, 03:43:23 AM
 :(

Can't find Team picker yet. Am I missing something or is it not yet available ??                         :'(
Title: Re: Planning for 2017
Post by: Gigantor on December 05, 2016, 10:46:56 AM
Quote from: Sabretooth Tigers on December 05, 2016, 03:43:23 AM
:(

Can't find Team picker yet. Am I missing something or is it not yet available ??                         :'(


iirc last year the site didn't change, there was just a link to the team picker showing at the top. Can't find anything like this yet this year  :'(

Title: Re: Planning for 2017
Post by: Sabretooth Tigers on December 05, 2016, 12:09:08 PM
 ???

Still nothing !!       :(
Title: Re: Planning for 2017
Post by: Ringo on December 05, 2016, 01:31:15 PM
Think I read somewhere picker will be available Tuesday.
Title: Re: Planning for 2017
Post by: PiPies on December 05, 2016, 01:56:52 PM
Quote from: Ringo on December 05, 2016, 01:31:15 PM
Think I read somewhere picker will be available Tuesday.

Well that sucks, been logging in every hour since 8am.
Title: Re: Planning for 2017
Post by: Koop on December 05, 2016, 02:00:49 PM
Quote from: PiPies on December 05, 2016, 01:56:52 PM
Quote from: Ringo on December 05, 2016, 01:31:15 PM
Think I read somewhere picker will be available Tuesday.

Well that sucks, been logging in every hour since 8am.

You sure Ringo? DT's comes out early afternoon today so assume SC's the same?
Title: Re: Planning for 2017
Post by: RaisyDaisy on December 05, 2016, 02:55:03 PM
SC Team Picker confirmed as coming out "later this afternoon"
Title: Re: Planning for 2017
Post by: quinny88 on December 05, 2016, 03:29:35 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on December 05, 2016, 02:55:03 PM
SC Team Picker confirmed as coming out "later this afternoon"

How useless can they get. "We're not sure what time exactly but it will be some time later this afternoon"
Title: Re: Planning for 2017
Post by: kilbluff1985 on December 05, 2016, 03:33:54 PM
Quote from: quinny88 on December 05, 2016, 03:29:35 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on December 05, 2016, 02:55:03 PM
SC Team Picker confirmed as coming out "later this afternoon"

How useless can they get. "We're not sure what time exactly but it will be some time later this afternoon"

not useless

they just want as many site visits as possible so not revealing the time
Title: Re: Planning for 2017
Post by: quinny88 on December 05, 2016, 03:37:55 PM
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on December 05, 2016, 03:33:54 PM
Quote from: quinny88 on December 05, 2016, 03:29:35 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on December 05, 2016, 02:55:03 PM
SC Team Picker confirmed as coming out "later this afternoon"

How useless can they get. "We're not sure what time exactly but it will be some time later this afternoon"

not useless

they just want as many site visits as possible so not revealing the time

If they wanted to do that surely they would do it on the actual launch of SuperCoach? They always give a precise opening at midnight for that
Title: Re: Planning for 2017
Post by: The_Captain on December 05, 2016, 05:15:38 PM
4.20 now... so surely they could have said tonight... That way people wouldnt be pissed waiting all day.
Title: Re: Planning for 2017
Post by: Ringo on December 05, 2016, 05:40:45 PM
Supercoach Picker is now open
Title: Re: Planning for 2017
Post by: LordSneeze on December 05, 2016, 05:41:45 PM
Quote from: Ringo on December 05, 2016, 05:40:45 PM
Supercoach Picker is now open

Yas
Title: Re: Planning for 2017
Post by: The Woodman on December 05, 2016, 08:06:22 PM
If anyone has the prices for the players, I can feed them into my planning spreadsheet (and post it on here).
Title: Re: Planning for 2017
Post by: crowls on December 05, 2016, 09:14:42 PM
Quote from: LordSneeze on December 05, 2016, 05:41:45 PM
Quote from: Ringo on December 05, 2016, 05:40:45 PM
Supercoach Picker is now open

Yas
Where is the picker guys.   I am still getting all last years data and nothing on the screen to select for 2017?
Title: Re: Planning for 2017
Post by: quinny88 on December 05, 2016, 09:17:50 PM
Quote from: crowls on December 05, 2016, 09:14:42 PM
Quote from: LordSneeze on December 05, 2016, 05:41:45 PM
Quote from: Ringo on December 05, 2016, 05:40:45 PM
Supercoach Picker is now open

Yas
Where is the picker guys.   I am still getting all last years data and nothing on the screen to select for 2017?
Try signing out of your team and back in. Mine wasn't showing until I did that
Title: Re: Planning for 2017
Post by: Samsturmfels on December 06, 2016, 01:15:17 PM
http://www.scpaige.com.au/the-scp-strategiser/
Title: Re: Planning for 2017
Post by: The Woodman on December 06, 2016, 01:48:21 PM
Bam. That'll do. Many thanks!!
Title: Re: Planning for 2017
Post by: Ringo on December 14, 2016, 02:37:00 PM
Extract from Fagans presser today -

CF: Beams has been out training with us - getting close to training with us full. It's exciting and a great presence to have him out there.

I will be attending the Lions Session next Monday (Can not turn down a free BBQ Breakfast with players and coach) and observe a few players for myself. Am interested to see how Beams, Bundy and Cian Hanley come up after being out for so long. Also how much bulk some of the 2014 and 2015 draftees have put on.
Title: Re: Planning for 2017
Post by: DunnyBrush on December 15, 2016, 02:41:12 PM
Quote from: Ringo on December 14, 2016, 02:37:00 PM
Extract from Fagans presser today -

CF: Beams has been out training with us - getting close to training with us full. It's exciting and a great presence to have him out there.

I will be attending the Lions Session next Monday (Can not turn down a free BBQ Breakfast with players and coach) and observe a few players for myself. Am interested to see how Beams, Bundy and Cian Hanley come up after being out for so long. Also how much bulk some of the 2014 and 2015 draftees have put on.

Try and avoid getting caught ''eying off'' to many bulked up players mate or you might find yourself banned from the next BBQ  :-X