Have archived the other thread and started a new one for this season
The vote for this is in and it has come back a tied vote 6-6.
Here are all the comments we received from coaches regarding the draft either way.
1: I'll have to say no,I do think the extra attention on the comp over the byes is nice but not entirely crucial. The AFL doesn't have it, so I don't think we need to either.
2: I'll say no/scrap, adds more interest to the end of season drafts if there are some decent selections available. We also have massive lists so nobody should really be needing players mid season imo
3: I vote to keep it. As long as its not compulsory. If a LTI or dropped spud needs trading then all good IMO
4: Yes keep it. It was designed to keep coaches interested and talking over the bye, it also helps the teams that need it:
We can discuss it further but with the tied vote it will come down to admin call,which is Atto and myself
We have discussed the mid season draft via facebook a few times.
We now have the new rivalry round fixtures that Atto has done over the bye periods which should create a fair bit of interest from the coaches as we take on our rival teams for bragging rights.
I think if it's an existing rule and the majority are not against it then it should be kept.
Quote from: Football Factory on March 07, 2016, 08:02:54 PM
I think if it's an existing rule and the majority are not against it then it should be kept.
This ^^^ is part of the reason it's now open for more discussion :)
And would be good to get some more opinions from more coaches than those that sent the above comments with their pm votes
I think I'm far more opposed to the free agency style of drafting than getting rid of the mid-season draft. I like the draft and certainly think it should stay (I think drafting is the best part of this game) but am far more concerned about good teams picking up the best young talent during the year with free agency.
There is no free agency
The vote wasn't sent out for it
And it wouldn't come in this season anyway because there would be some work involved in setting it up properly if voted in and the vote can wait until later on for it anyway
Quote from: Grannyboy on March 08, 2016, 09:30:34 AM
I think I'm far more opposed to the free agency style of drafting than getting rid of the mid-season draft. I like the draft and certainly think it should stay (I think drafting is the best part of this game) but am far more concerned about good teams picking up the best young talent during the year with free agency.
Well if that is the case how come I got told to "take the game serious" when I had heaps of draft picks the season before? Maybe guys should use the draft I did that again this year and now I'm being told to "I went too far during the trade period". Maybe if teams want talent use the draft and don't give up their draft picks? I could of had the top 4 picks this year.
The free agency during the year doesnt have premium players in it. I don't see any guys that have been picked up mid year making my best 22. So how are good teams going to get better just from a mid year pick up?
Quote from: R.Griffen on March 08, 2016, 12:39:57 PM
Quote from: Grannyboy on March 08, 2016, 09:30:34 AM
I think I'm far more opposed to the free agency style of drafting than getting rid of the mid-season draft. I like the draft and certainly think it should stay (I think drafting is the best part of this game) but am far more concerned about good teams picking up the best young talent during the year with free agency.
Well if that is the case how come I got told to "take the game serious" when I had heaps of draft picks the season before? Maybe guys should use the draft I did that again this year and now I'm being told to "I went too far during the trade period". Maybe if teams want talent use the draft and don't give up their draft picks? I could of had the top 4 picks this year.
The free agency during the year doesnt have premium players in it. I don't see any guys that have been picked up mid year making my best 22. So how are good teams going to get better just from a mid year pick up?
It's not all about you Griff (if im not getting best 22 players for my team I want it gone ;D ) you can see the motivation behind his vote, won the bloody Grandfinal last year ....the draft helps out teams that are on the bottom of the ladder.
1. Bolivia Condors (PKbaldy) - Josh Bruce
2. Springfield Isotopes (Grannyboy) - Karl Amon
3. Washington Senators (Popedelio) - Michael Rischitelli
4. El Paso Alpacas (T Dog) - Adam Saad
You will have to ask these coaches as to wether they benefitted form the draft or not, im not sure if they became best 22 players for them or not ?
I don't know why there is such a big push to try and get rid of the mid season draft ? what do people have against it ? its a bit of extra fun midway through the year, I like drafting, was some of the best fun ive had with these sort of comps especially the main draft. You don't even have to participate if you don't want to.
Quote from: Football Factory on March 08, 2016, 02:19:53 PM
Quote from: R.Griffen on March 08, 2016, 12:39:57 PM
Quote from: Grannyboy on March 08, 2016, 09:30:34 AM
I think I'm far more opposed to the free agency style of drafting than getting rid of the mid-season draft. I like the draft and certainly think it should stay (I think drafting is the best part of this game) but am far more concerned about good teams picking up the best young talent during the year with free agency.
Well if that is the case how come I got told to "take the game serious" when I had heaps of draft picks the season before? Maybe guys should use the draft I did that again this year and now I'm being told to "I went too far during the trade period". Maybe if teams want talent use the draft and don't give up their draft picks? I could of had the top 4 picks this year.
The free agency during the year doesnt have premium players in it. I don't see any guys that have been picked up mid year making my best 22. So how are good teams going to get better just from a mid year pick up?
It's not all about you Griff (if im not getting best 22 players for my team I want it gone ;D ) you can see the motivation behind his vote, won the bloody Grandfinal last year ....the draft helps out teams that are on the bottom of the ladder.
1. Bolivia Condors (PKbaldy) - Josh Bruce
2. Springfield Isotopes (Grannyboy) - Karl Amon
3. Washington Senators (Popedelio) - Michael Rischitelli
4. El Paso Alpacas (T Dog) - Adam Saad
You will have to ask these coaches as to wether they benefitted form the draft or not, im not sure if they became best 22 players for them or not ?
I don't know why there is such a big push to try and get rid of the mid season draft ? what do people have against it ? its a bit of extra fun midway through the year, I like drafting, was some of the best fun ive had with these sort of comps especially the main draft. You don't even have to participate if you don't want to.
|What I am trying to say is that is not where the top end talent comes from. I'm not going to steal players away from a lower end team through a draft if I don't need them. I was for having a chance to pick up players mid year but players shouldn't be forced to pick up players.
There is enough interest around mid year so it doesn't bother me. If the draft is for the bottom end teams to get some talent they should keep their picks
It was always about trying to even up the comp Griff, we want all coaches to have fun yeah ? not just the top 5-6 teams, I also like drafting and trying to pick out that golden nugget hidden amongst the trash.
I guess you could look at having the draft for just the bottom 4 teams if people are worried the talent will be pillaged by the better teams with the later picks, I like the format how it is though as its a bit of fun and the talent ends pretty quick after the first few picks, could be something to discuss ?
Quote from: Football Factory on March 08, 2016, 02:52:19 PM
It was always about tying to even up the comp Griff, we want all coaches to have fun yeah ? not just the top 5-6 teams, I also like drafting and trying to pick out that golden nugget hidden amongst the trash.
I guess you could look at having the draft for just the bottom 4 teams if people are worried the talent will be pillaged by the better teams with the later picks, I like the format how it is though as its a bit of fun and the talent ends pretty quick after the first few picks, could be something to discuss ?
Not going to even up the comp when I drafted Brayshaw last year and could have drafted Parish, Mills, etc coming off winning a grand final. The fun is out of it when teams aren't rebuilding properly and keeping talent
Quote from: R.Griffen on March 08, 2016, 02:58:48 PM
Quote from: Football Factory on March 08, 2016, 02:52:19 PM
It was always about tying to even up the comp Griff, we want all coaches to have fun yeah ? not just the top 5-6 teams, I also like drafting and trying to pick out that golden nugget hidden amongst the trash.
I guess you could look at having the draft for just the bottom 4 teams if people are worried the talent will be pillaged by the better teams with the later picks, I like the format how it is though as its a bit of fun and the talent ends pretty quick after the first few picks, could be something to discuss ?
Not going to even up the comp when I drafted Brayshaw last year and could have drafted Parish, Mills, etc coming off winning a grand final. The fun is out of it when teams aren't rebuilding properly and keeping talent
Not quite sure what you are talking about here ... we are discussing the mid season draft.
Quote from: Football Factory on March 08, 2016, 03:02:33 PM
Quote from: R.Griffen on March 08, 2016, 02:58:48 PM
Quote from: Football Factory on March 08, 2016, 02:52:19 PM
It was always about tying to even up the comp Griff, we want all coaches to have fun yeah ? not just the top 5-6 teams, I also like drafting and trying to pick out that golden nugget hidden amongst the trash.
I guess you could look at having the draft for just the bottom 4 teams if people are worried the talent will be pillaged by the better teams with the later picks, I like the format how it is though as its a bit of fun and the talent ends pretty quick after the first few picks, could be something to discuss ?
Not going to even up the comp when I drafted Brayshaw last year and could have drafted Parish, Mills, etc coming off winning a grand final. The fun is out of it when teams aren't rebuilding properly and keeping talent
Not quite sure what you are talking about here ... we are discussing the mid season draft.
I know but if it is a life or death situtation how is it going to help. The players aren't that decent and are teams really missing out on any of these scores. The talent comes from the other draft
Quote from: R.Griffen on March 08, 2016, 03:09:52 PM
Quote from: Football Factory on March 08, 2016, 03:02:33 PM
Quote from: R.Griffen on March 08, 2016, 02:58:48 PM
Quote from: Football Factory on March 08, 2016, 02:52:19 PM
It was always about tying to even up the comp Griff, we want all coaches to have fun yeah ? not just the top 5-6 teams, I also like drafting and trying to pick out that golden nugget hidden amongst the trash.
I guess you could look at having the draft for just the bottom 4 teams if people are worried the talent will be pillaged by the better teams with the later picks, I like the format how it is though as its a bit of fun and the talent ends pretty quick after the first few picks, could be something to discuss ?
Not going to even up the comp when I drafted Brayshaw last year and could have drafted Parish, Mills, etc coming off winning a grand final. The fun is out of it when teams aren't rebuilding properly and keeping talent
Not quite sure what you are talking about here ... we are discussing the mid season draft.
I know but if it is a life or death situtation how is it going to help. The players aren't that decent and are teams really missing out on any of these scores. The talent comes from the other draft
There's always a few decent players that emerge (mature age) I think it benefits the weaker teams.
In regards to you previous message if you are unhappy with the format of the National Draft (ladder position after or before finals)you need to raise the issue with LF/Atto
Quote from: Football Factory on March 08, 2016, 03:15:55 PM
Quote from: R.Griffen on March 08, 2016, 03:09:52 PM
Quote from: Football Factory on March 08, 2016, 03:02:33 PM
Quote from: R.Griffen on March 08, 2016, 02:58:48 PM
Quote from: Football Factory on March 08, 2016, 02:52:19 PM
It was always about tying to even up the comp Griff, we want all coaches to have fun yeah ? not just the top 5-6 teams, I also like drafting and trying to pick out that golden nugget hidden amongst the trash.
I guess you could look at having the draft for just the bottom 4 teams if people are worried the talent will be pillaged by the better teams with the later picks, I like the format how it is though as its a bit of fun and the talent ends pretty quick after the first few picks, could be something to discuss ?
Not going to even up the comp when I drafted Brayshaw last year and could have drafted Parish, Mills, etc coming off winning a grand final. The fun is out of it when teams aren't rebuilding properly and keeping talent
Not quite sure what you are talking about here ... we are discussing the mid season draft.
I know but if it is a life or death situtation how is it going to help. The players aren't that decent and are teams really missing out on any of these scores. The talent comes from the other draft
There's always a few decent players that emerge (mature age) I think it benefits the weaker teams.
In regards to you previous message if you are unhappy with the format of the National Draft (ladder position after or before finals)you need to raise the issue with LF/Atto
Well the format is good and all. It should be up to the coaches to get the team they want from the start. Like we already have 2 drafts to recruit players
Just my two cents. If we were going to do anything during the MBR's, I believe it should be a trade period (but I think very few people were in favour of that). In the way that it opens on Monday morning and closes Thursday night each week. I am against doing a draft because I like the potential value in a rookie draft at the end of the season if no one got picked up in the meantime. But I won't complain if we did just the three mini rounds during the byes.
Quote from: Atto on March 09, 2016, 01:09:19 AM
Just my two cents. If we were going to do anything during the MBR's, I believe it should be a trade period (but I think very few people were in favour of that). In the way that it opens on Monday morning and closes Thursday night each week. I am against doing a draft because I like the potential value in a rookie draft at the end of the season if no one got picked up in the meantime. But I won't complain if we did just the three mini rounds during the byes.
Agreed. I feel with the mid-season draft, the value of a rookie pick plummets immensely. And seeing as Rookie Picks can be traded for and with National picks, it makes it more fun then a fixed mid-season draft. We got little games over the bye rounds to keep us interested. And I think it is enough. If we are truly trying to mirror the AFL, we can bring back the Mid-season draft once the AFL re-introduces it (Which comes into speculation every year). And this is coming from the team who finished on the bottom.
Quote from: Atto on March 09, 2016, 01:09:19 AM
Just my two cents. If we were going to do anything during the MBR's, I believe it should be a trade period (but I think very few people were in favour of that). In the way that it opens on Monday morning and closes Thursday night each week. I am against doing a draft because I like the potential value in a rookie draft at the end of the season if no one got picked up in the meantime. But I won't complain if we did just the three mini rounds during the byes.
Don't like the idea of a trade period during the season ... the team/squad you start the season with should be what you finish with (mainly in regards to trading premo's as the mid season draft does change your team but benefits the bottom teams) . We already have 2 trade periods, more than enough, don't think anyone even made a trade in bye period 2 ?.. or if they did it was very few.
Quote from: Pkbaldy on March 09, 2016, 08:17:20 AM
Quote from: Atto on March 09, 2016, 01:09:19 AM
Just my two cents. If we were going to do anything during the MBR's, I believe it should be a trade period (but I think very few people were in favour of that). In the way that it opens on Monday morning and closes Thursday night each week. I am against doing a draft because I like the potential value in a rookie draft at the end of the season if no one got picked up in the meantime. But I won't complain if we did just the three mini rounds during the byes.
Agreed. I feel with the mid-season draft, the value of a rookie pick plummets immensely. And seeing as Rookie Picks can be traded for and with National picks, it makes it more fun then a fixed mid-season draft. We got little games over the bye rounds to keep us interested. And I think it is enough. If we are truly trying to mirror the AFL, we can bring back the Mid-season draft once the AFL re-introduces it (Which comes into speculation every year). And this is coming from the team who finished on the bottom.
Cant believe you're against the mid season draft, as the bottom team you get to pick the best player going in the Rookie draft and the Mid season draft. As I said earlier the quality of players drops off after the first few picks and then the rookie draft gets topped up with left overs from the National draft, plus the next batch of players that emerge after the mid season draft. Surprised you're one of the people against it ?
Quote from: Football Factory on March 09, 2016, 02:14:10 PM
Quote from: Pkbaldy on March 09, 2016, 08:17:20 AM
Quote from: Atto on March 09, 2016, 01:09:19 AM
Just my two cents. If we were going to do anything during the MBR's, I believe it should be a trade period (but I think very few people were in favour of that). In the way that it opens on Monday morning and closes Thursday night each week. I am against doing a draft because I like the potential value in a rookie draft at the end of the season if no one got picked up in the meantime. But I won't complain if we did just the three mini rounds during the byes.
Agreed. I feel with the mid-season draft, the value of a rookie pick plummets immensely. And seeing as Rookie Picks can be traded for and with National picks, it makes it more fun then a fixed mid-season draft. We got little games over the bye rounds to keep us interested. And I think it is enough. If we are truly trying to mirror the AFL, we can bring back the Mid-season draft once the AFL re-introduces it (Which comes into speculation every year). And this is coming from the team who finished on the bottom.
Cant believe you're against the mid season draft, as the bottom team you get to pick the best player going in the Rookie draft and the Mid season draft. As I said earlier the quality of players drops off after the first few picks and then the rookie draft gets topped up with left overs from the National draft, plus the next batch of players that emerge after the mid season draft. Surprised you're one of the people against it ?
Yeah it CAN be a benefit. But if you don't have a mid-season draft the value of my R1 would of sky rocketed (And R13 would of been worth more too), and I would of been able to trade them for really good NAT picks or even decent players). It's a 50/50 sort of thing. I just over rate the value of NAT and Rookie picks, and having more and better players in the rookie draft is just better.
How does it sky rocket ? you get first pick in both drafts, take the best player going. As I have suggested a few times already the talent drops off a lot in the Rookie draft, unless you are lucky (or really skilled) you wont get a player that will ever make your team (just depth). Most teams don't even bother with their Rookie picks (Rookie Draft) they just skip them.
I'm fairly opposed to any kind of midseason draft or trade period. I don't like the idea of allowing people to improve or fix their lists during the middle of the season. We've got large enough lists that it shouldn't be an issue. The offseason is a long, long time for a coach to make all the necessary list changes and if they're needing an extra draft or trade period, they clearly wasted their offseason. The trade period side of things also benefits those who are more active, as they're more likely to actually do something than the coaches who just turn up to submit a team every week.
Most of these comps, to an extent, try to replicate the AFL. Carlton were a basketcase for pretty much all of last year and they weren't allowed to trade an underperforming player for someone in form and they weren't allowed to suddenly draft Weitering or Schache midseason.
In my opinion, half the fun of these comps is that an injury or two can derail a season, it happens in the AFL (GWS with Mummy) and for me, that adds more interest than 'struggling' teams getting charity because we've got nothing else to do over bye rounds. If you really want something to do over the bye rounds, why not have an opt in or opt out (whatever people prefer) competition over those three rounds where the team that scores the highest total points or whatever gets bragging rights. Purely a suggestion an alternative to the midseason draft or trade period options which I'm not really fond of whatsoever.
Well said Nige
Also we do have a comp that runs over the bye period,this season it's a rivalry round one devised by Atto which should be good fun for everyone and create interest from the coaches
Last season it was USA v Allstars over the bye period however this season Atto has fixtured this into the last few rounds of the year
Quote from: Nige on March 09, 2016, 03:35:45 PM
I'm fairly opposed to any kind of midseason draft or trade period. I don't like the idea of allowing people to improve or fix their lists during the middle of the season. We've got large enough lists that it shouldn't be an issue. The offseason is a long, long time for a coach to make all the necessary list changes and if they're needing an extra draft or trade period, they clearly wasted their offseason. The trade period side of things also benefits those who are more active, as they're more likely to actually do something than the coaches who just turn up to submit a team every week.
Most of these comps, to an extent, try to replicate the AFL. Carlton were a basketcase for pretty much all of last year and they weren't allowed to trade an underperforming player for someone in form and they weren't allowed to suddenly draft Weitering or Schache midseason.
In my opinion, half the fun of these comps is that an injury or two can derail a season, it happens in the AFL (GWS with Mummy) and for me, that adds more interest than 'struggling' teams getting charity because we've got nothing else to do over bye rounds. If you really want something to do over the bye rounds, why not have an opt in or opt out (whatever people prefer) competition over those three rounds where the team that scores the highest total points or whatever gets bragging rights. Purely a suggestion an alternative to the midseason draft or trade period options which I'm not really fond of whatsoever.
Im against having a trade period during the year as it could be the difference between a team finishing top 4 or winning the Grandfinal, I don't think it should be decided like that.
Still think if the majority are for keeping an existing rule (or 6-6) then we should keep it, I don't know how you can get rid of something people want.
Quote from: LF on March 09, 2016, 03:42:58 PM
Well said Nige
Also we do have a comp that runs over the bye period,this season it's a rivalry round one devised by Atto which should be good fun for everyone and create interest from the coaches
Last season it was USA v Allstars over the bye period however this season Atto has fixtured this into the last few rounds of the year
Sounds good to me!
Quote from: Football Factory on March 09, 2016, 03:48:05 PM
Im against having a trade period during the year as it could be the difference between a team finishing top 4 or winning the Grandfinal, I don't think it should be decided like that.
Still think if the majority are for keeping an existing rule (or 6-6) then we should keep it, I don't know how you can get rid of something people want.
The problem is though, there is no majority. 6-6 is an even split. If you've already sent out a vote on whether to keep or scrap the draft, you can't say "we're keeping it" when the coaches are divided. Half the coaches may not be interested or want to be a part of such a draft and it's not really something one can opt out of because it gives an advantage to those who partake. The democratic option has already been chosen, so basically if anything is to happen, there'll have to be another vote and along with the yes/no or whatever, coaches should be made to give a reason, because I genuinely wouldn't be surprised if some of the votes were more of a 'not fussed/throwaway vote' thinking their vote wouldn't matter.
Quote from: Nige on March 09, 2016, 04:59:38 PM
Quote from: LF on March 09, 2016, 03:42:58 PM
Well said Nige
Also we do have a comp that runs over the bye period,this season it's a rivalry round one devised by Atto which should be good fun for everyone and create interest from the coaches
Last season it was USA v Allstars over the bye period however this season Atto has fixtured this into the last few rounds of the year
Sounds good to me!
Quote from: Football Factory on March 09, 2016, 03:48:05 PM
Im against having a trade period during the year as it could be the difference between a team finishing top 4 or winning the Grandfinal, I don't think it should be decided like that.
Still think if the majority are for keeping an existing rule (or 6-6) then we should keep it, I don't know how you can get rid of something people want.
The problem is though, there is no majority. 6-6 is an even split. If you've already sent out a vote on whether to keep or scrap the draft, you can't say "we're keeping it" when the coaches are divided. Half the coaches may not be interested or want to be a part of such a draft and it's not really something one can opt out of because it gives an advantage to those who partake. The democratic option has already been chosen, so basically if anything is to happen, there'll have to be another vote and along with the yes/no or whatever, coaches should be made to give a reason, because I genuinely wouldn't be surprised if some of the votes were more of a 'not fussed/throwaway vote' thinking their vote wouldn't matter.
So what if we all vote the same ? I think the deciding factor needs to be something like what I have suggested. If its an existing rule then and the majority are not against then it is kept.
Originally the coaches voted it in. Also no one complained about it, it was only raised because LF and Atto wanted to get rid of it. Reasons im not sure ? something to do with wanting to implement a free agency originally, which hasn't been raised as yet, only discussed briefly.
5 against 1 at the moment :P
Quote from: Football Factory on March 09, 2016, 05:17:20 PM
Quote from: Nige on March 09, 2016, 04:59:38 PM
Quote from: LF on March 09, 2016, 03:42:58 PM
Well said Nige
Also we do have a comp that runs over the bye period,this season it's a rivalry round one devised by Atto which should be good fun for everyone and create interest from the coaches
Last season it was USA v Allstars over the bye period however this season Atto has fixtured this into the last few rounds of the year
Sounds good to me!
Quote from: Football Factory on March 09, 2016, 03:48:05 PM
Im against having a trade period during the year as it could be the difference between a team finishing top 4 or winning the Grandfinal, I don't think it should be decided like that.
Still think if the majority are for keeping an existing rule (or 6-6) then we should keep it, I don't know how you can get rid of something people want.
The problem is though, there is no majority. 6-6 is an even split. If you've already sent out a vote on whether to keep or scrap the draft, you can't say "we're keeping it" when the coaches are divided. Half the coaches may not be interested or want to be a part of such a draft and it's not really something one can opt out of because it gives an advantage to those who partake. The democratic option has already been chosen, so basically if anything is to happen, there'll have to be another vote and along with the yes/no or whatever, coaches should be made to give a reason, because I genuinely wouldn't be surprised if some of the votes were more of a 'not fussed/throwaway vote' thinking their vote wouldn't matter.
So what if we all vote the same ? I think the deciding factor needs to be something like what I have suggested. If its an existing rule then and the majority are not against then it is kept.
This probably makes more sense in my head, but I was really thinking that the reason for the yes/no vote should validate the vote. If it's a flimsy, half-hearted reason, the vote shouldn't be counted towards the tally.
By making the decision to keep the draft, you're doing two things. 1) You're kinda defeating the point of the vote being drawn by 'well even though half voted scrap, we'll keep it' and 2) You're forcing coaches to take part in the a draft they've stated they don't want to be a part of.
Basically, I see scrapping the draft and pleasing the 6 that voted for that as the better decision for the comp because it can do without it. There's absolutley no need to be unnecessarily charitable, especially if people don't want it.
It probably won't happen, but it would be interesting to know who voted for which option as it would probably make the final decision easier. The admins should probably discuss the pros and cons, and ultimately cast a '13th' deciding vote. The reason I say this is because I see one of the arguments for the draft is because it helps the bottom teams (aka those who finished outside the 8 - Bolivia, Springfield, Washington and Dalls I believe). Knowing which they'd prefer could probably solve the problem. However, as I said, removing it altogether does more good than harm.
I added a couple of things to my previous post, which I think moves the majority over to keeping it.
We have given our reasons as to why we don't want it and it was stated that there would be a vote to keep or remove the draft regardless of whether we had free agency or not.
And to add to this Atto and myself have been discussing some other things to do with the comp that means there will be no need at all for a mid season draft(no it's not free agency),the current Nat and rookie draft with 2 trade periods is ample to manage your team lists
How can I possibly win ... 5 people against me including both Admin .. I can feel a knee jerk reaction coming.
Quote from: Nige on March 09, 2016, 03:35:45 PM
I'm fairly opposed to any kind of midseason draft or trade period. I don't like the idea of allowing people to improve or fix their lists during the middle of the season. We've got large enough lists that it shouldn't be an issue. The offseason is a long, long time for a coach to make all the necessary list changes and if they're needing an extra draft or trade period, they clearly wasted their offseason. The trade period side of things also benefits those who are more active, as they're more likely to actually do something than the coaches who just turn up to submit a team every week.
Most of these comps, to an extent, try to replicate the AFL. Carlton were a basketcase for pretty much all of last year and they weren't allowed to trade an underperforming player for someone in form and they weren't allowed to suddenly draft Weitering or Schache midseason.
In my opinion, half the fun of these comps is that an injury or two can derail a season, it happens in the AFL (GWS with Mummy) and for me, that adds more interest than 'struggling' teams getting charity because we've got nothing else to do over bye rounds. If you really want something to do over the bye rounds, why not have an opt in or opt out (whatever people prefer) competition over those three rounds where the team that scores the highest total points or whatever gets bragging rights. Purely a suggestion an alternative to the midseason draft or trade period options which I'm not really fond of whatsoever.
Haha bollocks, I must have sent out 30-40 pms to almost every coach last year with inquiries and ready made trades and got the same reply...I want Dusty or Hibberd. The trade period benefits those who have good players to start with, I've offered up young guns to actually get something done and I've only got screwed as a result.
Carlton can name it's own 22 each week we can't, we have to rely on them being in their AFL team and in the right position for us. There is nothing worse than doughies and I have had as many as anyone. Do you really want to get to the top 4 because you played a team that didn't have 22 on the park and you kicked the crap out of them?
Weitering and Schache were never available for the midseason draft, it's only the left over picks from the previous draft.
Nige and PK, have you actually seen a full season? It's amazing how slack the bottom teams got when they didn't have enough players to make a 22 and are sitting on 4-8 points from 10-12 games. Quite a few times teams weren't posted at all or during a lock out and previous weeks teams that didn't score as well were used. It started to affect the ladder and %.
Quote from: Grannyboy on March 09, 2016, 06:34:48 PM
Nige and PK, have you actually seen a full season? It's amazing how slack the bottom teams got when they didn't have enough players to make a 22 and are sitting on 4-8 points from 10-12 games. Quite a few times teams weren't posted at all or during a lock out and previous weeks teams that didn't score as well were used. It started to affect the ladder and %.
Isn't the point of the preference list is to reduce the effect that has?
Quote from: Atto on March 09, 2016, 06:46:52 PM
Quote from: Grannyboy on March 09, 2016, 06:34:48 PM
Nige and PK, have you actually seen a full season? It's amazing how slack the bottom teams got when they didn't have enough players to make a 22 and are sitting on 4-8 points from 10-12 games. Quite a few times teams weren't posted at all or during a lock out and previous weeks teams that didn't score as well were used. It started to affect the ladder and %.
Isn't the point of the preference list is to reduce the effect that has?
It would be much better to not have a preference list and just have every coach post every week, the teams will no doubt be a lot better when you look at current form rather than an average at the start of a season. The fact you even need a preference list says it all.
Other comps have preference lists as well,it's there as a safety factor for teams
What if you were is hospital or something and couldn't contact anyone and this kind of thing is the last thing on your mind at least we can put up a competitive team using the preference lists provided.
Wouldn't mind a re vote now I've seen the reasons why or why not to have it
Quote from: Grannyboy on March 09, 2016, 06:34:48 PM
Nige and PK, have you actually seen a full season? It's amazing how slack the bottom teams got when they didn't have enough players to make a 22 and are sitting on 4-8 points from 10-12 games. Quite a few times teams weren't posted at all or during a lock out and previous weeks teams that didn't score as well were used. It started to affect the ladder and %.
I have. Not in this comp, but I've had got teams in every other XVs style comp on this forum. In fact, I took over a team that was exactly as you described in BXVs and turned it into a premiership team in 2 years. So yes, I've also done admin work for comps too and know exactly what happens when teams aren't posted because of the coaches. For that reason, preference lists are a must as LF noted very well.
We brought the preference lists in, they're a good idea. If your talking about using them for people who don't give a shower about their team anymore then I think it's not a good idea .. hey cool we don't need coaches anymore we have preference lists ???
i voted against it mainly because i feel the rookie draft is already useless enough a midseason draft makes it even more useless
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on March 09, 2016, 08:29:55 PM
i voted against it mainly because i feel the rookie draft is already useless enough a midseason draft makes it even more useless
I agree to an extent, the Rookie draft normally only has 4 or 5 good players to pick. PK was saying he doesn't agree with it because it takes away some of the depth and therefore affects the lower teams getting good players with their second pick .. example R13 .. but if you have only the Rookie draft and there is say 7-9 players worth picking (decent scorers) he still wont get one, the player will go to a higher team on the ladder .. say R8/R9. Having the mid season draft gives them another good chance of picking up a good player to fix their team a bit. Surely we all want a competitive comp, we don't want teams stuck on the bottom for years. A lot of these players are mature age players and are a good fix for the struggling teams. National draft is good but you have wait years for them to improve their scoring unless you pick up one of the more AFL ready youngsters.
Quote from: Football Factory on March 09, 2016, 08:50:44 PM
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on March 09, 2016, 08:29:55 PM
i voted against it mainly because i feel the rookie draft is already useless enough a midseason draft makes it even more useless
I agree to an extent, the Rookie draft normally only has 4 or 5 good players to pick. PK was saying he doesn't agree with it because it takes away some of the depth and therefore affects the lower teams getting good players with their second pick .. example R13 .. but if you have only the Rookie draft and there is say 7-9 players worth picking (decent scorers) he still wont get one, the player will go to a higher team on the ladder .. say R8/R9. Having the mid season draft gives them another good chance of picking up a good player to fix their team a bit. Surely we all want a competitive comp, we don't want teams stuck on the bottom for years. A lot of these players are mature age players and are a good fix for the struggling teams. National draft is good but you have wait years for them to improve their scoring unless you pick up one of the more AFL ready youngsters.
I think he was more talking about the value of rookie picks in the trade period, with a mid-season draft all the early bolters in the rookie draft pool are going to get taken, meaning the quality of players at the end of the season in the rookie draft will be less, which means that people will be less inclined to give up anything decent for a rookie pick.
In BXVs, N3 or N4 was traded for R1 (overs imho but not the point, sorry kb :P), with a mid-season draft, R1 would've probably been worth about N30 at best.
Well u need to point out Oxley was in the draft who everyone thought would be a defender and i needed a defender more then N4 i know it was overs but it was better for the team structure
luckily we went with ultimate footy scoring and Oxley is a defender ;D
Okay yeah i see what you (PK) means .. but I still stand by the fact that he will get two good players (potentially best 22) instead of only one if we have a Rookie draft and mid season draft. But if that's not what he was talking about I guess it doesn't really matter. Still think the mid season draft benefits the weaker teams.
He got J.Bruce (Mid Season) and S.Gray (Rookie) .. so that wasn't too bad, he wouldn't have got Bruce if we only had the Rookie draft, I guess you have to weigh up what is more important, starting 22 or the trade value of Rookie picks.
I have never been inclined to give anything up for a Rookie pick, even before we had a Mid season draft.
Quote from: Grannyboy on March 09, 2016, 06:28:59 PM
Quote from: Nige on March 09, 2016, 03:35:45 PM
I'm fairly opposed to any kind of midseason draft or trade period. I don't like the idea of allowing people to improve or fix their lists during the middle of the season. We've got large enough lists that it shouldn't be an issue. The offseason is a long, long time for a coach to make all the necessary list changes and if they're needing an extra draft or trade period, they clearly wasted their offseason. The trade period side of things also benefits those who are more active, as they're more likely to actually do something than the coaches who just turn up to submit a team every week.
Most of these comps, to an extent, try to replicate the AFL. Carlton were a basketcase for pretty much all of last year and they weren't allowed to trade an underperforming player for someone in form and they weren't allowed to suddenly draft Weitering or Schache midseason.
In my opinion, half the fun of these comps is that an injury or two can derail a season, it happens in the AFL (GWS with Mummy) and for me, that adds more interest than 'struggling' teams getting charity because we've got nothing else to do over bye rounds. If you really want something to do over the bye rounds, why not have an opt in or opt out (whatever people prefer) competition over those three rounds where the team that scores the highest total points or whatever gets bragging rights. Purely a suggestion an alternative to the midseason draft or trade period options which I'm not really fond of whatsoever.
Haha bollocks, I must have sent out 30-40 pms to almost every coach last year with inquiries and ready made trades and got the same reply...I want Dusty or Hibberd. The trade period benefits those who have good players to start with, I've offered up young guns to actually get something done and I've only got screwed as a result.
Carlton can name it's own 22 each week we can't, we have to rely on them being in their AFL team and in the right position for us. There is nothing worse than doughies and I have had as many as anyone. Do you really want to get to the top 4 because you played a team that didn't have 22 on the park and you kicked the crap out of them?
Weitering and Schache were never available for the midseason draft, it's only the left over picks from the previous draft.
I'm pretty sure I never got an offer from you?? I offered you a very generous deal (I thought), didn't include any of your top players... And still shut it down calling it a 'terrible offer'.
Never knew that Rioli wasn't worth Aish ;) But hey i'm fine with that.
It's all happening here :o
I like the idea of a mid season draft.
It's not a compulsory draft surely.
So if you have a LTI or poor rookie draft pick for eg. and you need to update your side this draft would help.
If your side is going ok then no need to draft at all.
As with any draft you will be giving up a player to get a player so the next draft pool is not diminished.
Some unexpected players will have kicked on by mid year, expected players will fail. That's fantasy footy.
The draft pick order is the key as already mentioned in the thread. That's not new. It's always the key.
Keep the comp strong. Have the best players in play. Keep it a voluntary choice.
There you go. T Dog votes Yes.
Reading this conversation I can now understand where the concern is, I'll suggest an idea to LF and if she agrees then I think either one of us will post it here.
I like the mid season draft, is something unique that most other xv comps dont have
A good way for teams that want to participate to bring in new talent to cover, lti's or early retirements
at this point it isnt compulsory, so coaches who dont care can choose not to participate.
I'm all for the mid season draft.
Most has already been said so I'm not going to bother saying my opinion since it will mirror those that are pro mid season draft
I have added these to the Rules thread so we have clear cut rules on voting and problems with these pm myself and Atto
VOTING ON RULES ETC
15.1 At times we will require feedback from the coaches in the comp,admin will send out any voting via pm's.This will ensure we get the proper vote count from the coaches involved rather than using polls on the FanFooty site that any user on the site can vote in.
15.2 Voting is anonymous and all votes are to be pm'ed back to both of the admin of the competition only (currently LF and Atto),not all the coaches.By the deadline as stated in the original pm.
15.3 The results of any votes along with any comments will be published in the General Discussion thread
15.4 If the result is a tied vote,we will have an open discussion on the matter and then send out a re-vote to all the coaches to gain a majority result
15.5 If there is still a tied vote after a re-vote,it will then come down to admin call(currently LF and Atto) as to whether the matter goes through or not
15.6 Any coach that fails to vote will receive a strike against them
15.7 Any coach that fails to vote before the stated deadline will not have their vote counted
A new vote has been sent out regarding the mid season draft,please have your vote in by Sunday 20th March 11:59pm
Thank you :)
I'd like to request the graphic in the OP of the R1 thread be changed to reflect our new team name. :P
Quote from: Nige on March 15, 2016, 02:13:12 PM
I'd like to request the graphic in the OP of the R1 thread be changed to reflect our new team name. :P
Oh shower,I forgot I did these before you changed the team name,I'll fix it soon haha
Quote from: LF on March 15, 2016, 02:14:39 PM
Quote from: Nige on March 15, 2016, 02:13:12 PM
I'd like to request the graphic in the OP of the R1 thread be changed to reflect our new team name. :P
Oh shower,I forgot I did these before you changed the team name,I'll fix it soon haha
Haha all good, sorry for the minor inconvenience.
Can we just have a poll so we can all see who voted and said what. If we had it the first time someone may have seen the tie and changed their vote as a result and we wouldn't have to do this all over again. ::) What are the chances it will be drawn 6-6 again??
Quote from: Grannyboy on March 16, 2016, 12:32:59 PM
Can we just have a poll so we can all see who voted and said what. If we had it the first time someone may have seen the tie and changed their vote as a result and we wouldn't have to do this all over again. ::) What are the chances it will be drawn 6-6 again??
A poll where anyone can vote? Ummmm no, that's just terrible.
is it that hard to revote on something?
Ok so I had this discussion with Atto about the eliminator and we are looking at having a straight up lowest score each week with no HGA or added bonus,running from round 1 until 12 because after that is the start of the USA v Allstars fixtures.
Just been looking at who to start from the mighty El Paso team list.
Has got me thinking if I had to pick just 2 players on each line who are; -
1. absolutely locked in to start best 22 for their club
2. have / coming off no injury risk
3. had great pre - season cup
4. will play rd 1
It was not that easy. :(
Backs: Rich / Wright
Mids: Priddis / I.Smith
Rucks: Goldstein / Z.Smith
Fwds: Mayne / L.McCarthy
Doesn't give me any great confidence. The criteria makes sense to me, so that's not the problem.
Do these names terrorize the same from your list?
Mine would maybe be something like this
Def: Enright/TMac
Mid: Steven/Smitch
Ruck: Maric/McEvoy
Fwd: Greene/Breust
Quote from: T Dog on March 16, 2016, 02:57:04 PM
Just been looking at who to start from the mighty El Paso team list.
Has got me thinking if I had to pick just 2 players on each line who are; -
1. absolutely locked in to start best 22 for their club
2. have / coming off no injury risk
3. had great pre - season cup
4. will play rd 1
It was not that easy. :(
Backs: Rich / Wright
Mids: Priddis / I.Smith
Rucks: Goldstein / Z.Smith
Fwds: Mayne / L.McCarthy
Doesn't give me any great confidence. The criteria makes sense to me, so that's not the problem.
Do these names terrorize the same from your list?
I'd try and do the same but hardly any of players played NAB
Def: Andrew Mackie/Matthew Suckling
Mid: Jordan Lewis/Taylor Adams
Ruck: Stef Martin/Shaun Hampson
Forwards: Leigh Montagna/Aaron Hall
Quote from: T Dog on March 16, 2016, 02:57:04 PM
Just been looking at who to start from the mighty El Paso team list.
Has got me thinking if I had to pick just 2 players on each line who are; -
1. absolutely locked in to start best 22 for their club
2. have / coming off no injury risk
3. had great pre - season cup
4. will play rd 1
It was not that easy. :(
Backs: Rich / Wright
Mids: Priddis / I.Smith
Rucks: Goldstein / Z.Smith
Fwds: Mayne / L.McCarthy
Doesn't give me any great confidence. The criteria makes sense to me, so that's not the problem.
Do these names terrorize the same from your list?
Not many of my guys played heaps apart from a game here and there.
Backs: Nothing here apart from .. Daniel Howe / Tom Cutler but im not sure if they start round 1.
Mids: Josh Kelly / Jack Macrae ?
Rucks: Sam Jacobs / ?
Forwards: Touk Miller / Sam Kerridge
Quote from: T Dog on March 16, 2016, 02:57:04 PM
Just been looking at who to start from the mighty El Paso team list.
Has got me thinking if I had to pick just 2 players on each line who are; -
1. absolutely locked in to start best 22 for their club
2. have / coming off no injury risk
3. had great pre - season cup
4. will play rd 1
It was not that easy. :(
Backs: Rich / Wright
Mids: Priddis / I.Smith
Rucks: Goldstein / Z.Smith
Fwds: Mayne / L.McCarthy
Doesn't give me any great confidence. The criteria makes sense to me, so that's not the problem.
Do these names terrorize the same from your list?
Backs: Nobody stood out in NAB other then possiblby Trent McKenzie. So it would still be Yeo/McKenzie
Mids: Gaff/Hodge
Rucks: Blicavs/what 2nd ruck?? :o
Fwds: Barlow/.... hard to pick a 2nd option, Bennell looked good for his 1st and only preseason game :P
D: J.Bartel, B.Smith
M: S.Pendlebury, D.Armitage/L.Parker (think he'll explode)
R: S.Mumford, N.Naitanui
F: B.Deledio, T.Lynch
Solid! Few pensioners in there though
All votes for the Mid Season Draft are now in,we have a result this time.
7 votes to scrap it
5 votes to keep it
So the mid season draft is no more.
Will be posting up something else we have been discussing soon,just need to work out the smaller details,it however is pretty straight forward.
Calgary
Out - Cakva retired
In - Nic Newman
I will be resigning as the coach of the Arizona Scorpions effective immediately. My reasons are not based entirely from things that have happened with AXVIII DT recently, they are a part of it, but only a small part of it. There are things that I have been unhappy with on this site for a while. I feel the place has changed a lot over the years and it has been dragging me down, I have lost my passion for any of the comps that I am involved with on FanFooty. Maybe you could say it's my own fault have having different opinions and being passionate on how I explain them, once again this does not just relate to AXVIII DT. I will be around still doing my leagues and using the site for information, I have assured Grazz and others that I will be putting 100% into my teams and will not become a ghost ship.
Everyone welcome nas to DT America's as Arizonas new coach
Welcome mate 8)
does he get any trades :P
Be nice haha
If the season wasn't starting this week then we might have allowed a small trade period for people if they wanted to trade with nas but yeah unfortunately we can't :(
Quote from: LF on March 22, 2016, 09:53:18 PM
Be nice haha
If the season wasn't starting this week then we might have allowed a small trade period for people if they wanted to trade with nas but yeah unfortunately we can't :(
Dang there was going to be some good offerings too. Looks closed now. lol.
(https://media.giphy.com/media/jU7FJRHcM8kda/giphy.gif)
Your team doesn't need to do trades anyway. Pretty strong all round.
Quote from: Pkbaldy on March 23, 2016, 08:02:04 AM
Your team doesn't need to do trades anyway. Pretty strong all round.
Hey, not complaining, but Coaches do like to offer.
when does this comp start?
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on March 23, 2016, 10:11:37 PM
when does this comp start?
There is a round 1 thread in the lodgement board I posted last week haha
The lodgement board totally throws me off every time haha.
Quote from: Nige on March 23, 2016, 11:46:49 PM
The lodgement board totally throws me off every time haha.
Every. Single. Year.
Rising star contender Clayton Oliver gets the guernsey round 1 for Bolivia.
Quote from: Pkbaldy on March 24, 2016, 08:15:12 AM
Rising star contender Clayton Oliver gets the guernsey round 1 for Bolivia.
Stud checkers get uniforms now? ;D
I kinda don't wanna be that guy, but it bugs me enough that I feel it should be raised as a valid point for discussion.
If a team doesn't get named by their coach, should they be allowed to win?
Yes they should be allowed to win, but if it happens repeatedly the coach should be sacked.
A pm has gone out to everyone regarding this if you could all please make sure you read it thanks all
Quote from: T Dog on March 24, 2016, 12:08:09 PM
Quote from: Pkbaldy on March 24, 2016, 08:15:12 AM
Rising star contender Clayton Oliver gets the guernsey round 1 for Bolivia.
Stud checkers get uniforms now? ;D
My stud checker got Rising Star first week ;)
are results up yet? couldn't see them in lodgement thread
You need to do your scores as does SR and they don't need to be in until tonight
All other teams scored have been checked tho
Will post results once the last match scores are done
Atto will post the ladder when he gets the chance to do it :)
Quote from: LF on March 29, 2016, 05:13:05 PM
A pm has gone out to everyone regarding this if you could all please make sure you read it thanks all
Not received this end if gone!
Ah I will send it to you,you might not have been on the last pm I sent to everyone that I reused for this one haha
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on March 29, 2016, 08:36:30 PM
are results up yet? couldn't see them in lodgement thread
I'll be posting the ladder as soon as possible after the bonus points deadline, will probably be doing that every week.
So now let's have an official welcome to our new coaches of Springfield Rids and Nostra
I'm sure they will do a great job with Springfield as they have with teams in some of the other comps on the site
Quote from: LF on March 30, 2016, 05:24:52 PM
So now let's have an official welcome to our new coaches of Springfield Rids and Nostra
I'm sure they will do a great job with Springfield as they have with teams in some of the other comps on the site
Welcome to you both
Quote from: nas on March 30, 2016, 07:11:55 PM
Quote from: LF on March 30, 2016, 05:24:52 PM
So now let's have an official welcome to our new coaches of Springfield Rids and Nostra
I'm sure they will do a great job with Springfield as they have with teams in some of the other comps on the site
Welcome to you both
Hey to all. Cheers for the opportunity to take on a solid young list. Everyone knows us by now and knows how we go about it.
All the best to everyone. Just not when you are playing us :P
Quote from: Rids on March 30, 2016, 08:59:49 PM
Hey to all. Cheers for the opportunity to take on a solid young list. Everyone knows us by now and knows how we go about it.
All the best to everyone. Just not when you are playing us :P
I am the best as you say Rids....ooops hang on we are are all the best....nope hang on...if I don't play you then the best is all but me and you?? ;D
Quote from: Rids on March 30, 2016, 08:59:49 PM
Hey to all. Cheers for the opportunity to take on a solid young list. Everyone knows us by now and knows how we go about it.
All the best to everyone. Just not when you are playing us :P
Glad I got that out of the way. :P
Polec is gunning it early. A must have by the looks ::)
Quote from: T Dog on April 08, 2016, 09:06:04 PM
Polec is gunning it early. A must have by the looks ::)
If he can do it against an actual football team I might consider giving him a few games to boost his market value. :P
Quote from: Nige on April 08, 2016, 09:58:41 PM
Quote from: T Dog on April 08, 2016, 09:06:04 PM
Polec is gunning it early. A must have by the looks ::)
If he can do it against an actual football team I might consider giving him a few games to boost his market value. :P
too late ;D
Quote from: T Dog on April 08, 2016, 10:04:17 PM
Quote from: Nige on April 08, 2016, 09:58:41 PM
Quote from: T Dog on April 08, 2016, 09:06:04 PM
Polec is gunning it early. A must have by the looks ::)
If he can do it against an actual football team I might consider giving him a few games to boost his market value. :P
too late ;D
I'm at the match and just lol'ing every time he goes nears it
who needs Rockliff when you have Aaron Hall
i don't feel passionate about my team name like i do enjoy my other team names cause i didn't come up with it
are we allowed to change it at the end of the year?
didn't really realize it until now
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on April 12, 2016, 06:32:40 PM
i don't feel passionate about my team name like i do enjoy my other team names cause i didn't come up with it
are we allowed to change it at the end of the year?
didn't really realize it until now
You sure can,just needs to stay in the same region/area for our USA v Allstars split.
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on April 12, 2016, 06:32:40 PM
i don't feel passionate about my team name like i do enjoy my other team names cause i didn't come up with it
are we allowed to change it at the end of the year?
didn't really realize it until now
Don't worry mate. Nige's team name is worse.
Quote from: Pkbaldy on April 17, 2016, 08:54:49 PM
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on April 12, 2016, 06:32:40 PM
i don't feel passionate about my team name like i do enjoy my other team names cause i didn't come up with it
are we allowed to change it at the end of the year?
didn't really realize it until now
Don't worry mate. Nige's team name is worse.
Mate, it's amazing.
Second trade I ever made... Wow how some things turn out
Calgary Receives Aaron Hall + Jordan Lisle
for
Springfield Receives Sam Blease + Jackson Allen
Wow that mental man haha
Hall was a spud 12 months ago
So? Its still a massive win now though?
like it seemed like a nothing trade but just look at it now
Do position changes affect us? :P
Quote from: T Dog on April 28, 2016, 10:13:43 PM
Do position changes affect us? :P
I wish haha
No they don't T Dog
AF have position changes too? Kam McIntosh showing as M/D now.
Quote from: T Dog on May 06, 2016, 06:31:00 PM
AF have position changes too? Kam McIntosh showing as M/D now.
Nope we use DT not AF no position changes during the season for us
Quote from: LF on May 06, 2016, 06:39:30 PM
Quote from: T Dog on May 06, 2016, 06:31:00 PM
AF have position changes too? Kam McIntosh showing as M/D now.
Nope we use DT not AF no position changes during the season for us
Good thing too ;D
Really wouldn't mind one of my 5 rucks getting a game.
Nicholls getting dropped after his best game of the season was odd and really annoying.
Quote from: Nige on May 10, 2016, 06:24:57 PM
Really wouldn't mind one of my 5 rucks getting a game.
Nicholls getting dropped after his best game of the season was odd and really annoying.
IKR screwed me in AXVIII SC
Just a quick one,I try to get the threads for the next week done on Sunday or Monday,I know people want to wait until team announcements to post teams up but really should be no reason that teams aren't posted up before lockout each week.Edits can be done to posts right up until lockout,once it's lockout however you cannot edit.
Thanks All
God damn it, my best player and captain just got himself suspended for a week. :'(
Our USA v Allstars comp starts this round until the end of season
http://forum.fanfooty.com.au/index.php?topic=107338.0
Could we maybe start getting a screeny/copy of the ladder posted in the OP of the weekly round thread?
Just think it's a nice touch and provides a good point of reference for stats, banter etc.
My trade finger is getting a little twitchy, 8) it must be time for you to consider what El Paso has to offer :o
Quote from: T Dog on July 20, 2016, 08:48:51 PM
My trade finger is getting a little twitchy, 8) it must be time for you to consider what El Paso has to offer :o
Immigration papers?
Quote from: Atto on July 20, 2016, 08:57:56 PM
Quote from: T Dog on July 20, 2016, 08:48:51 PM
My trade finger is getting a little twitchy, 8) it must be time for you to consider what El Paso has to offer :o
Immigration papers?
If you really want to join El Paso , I can send you an immigration application. Do you have a current police check? ;D
My work hours are changing so things I do like results etc on Monday and Tuesday will now be done Tuesday and Wednesday as of next week.
Will still try get the lodgement thread done on the weekends as per usual
Anyone wishing to change their team names next season can does so but they must remain in split for USA v Allstars unless 2 teams switch completely but that will need to be approved by myself and Atto.
We have some USA based teams that are in the Allstars split already,those teams are free to change their names and/or location to offshore if they wish to by offshore it means it must be South America or surrounding areas of America
Also try not to use any places or names from the other XV comps
El Paso seriously considering a name change to the "NASA" Mars Orbiters
Quote from: T Dog on July 25, 2016, 08:25:57 PM
El Paso seriously considering a name change to the "NASA" Mars Orbiters
If I hadn't already claimed governance of the whole of Guadalajara and Mexico, I would have suggested changing to the Tijuana Chihuahuas. ;D
Will do results etc tonight while watching the Masterchef grand finale anything I don't get done I will do tomorrow as I have the day off
Dallas definitely considering a name change due to them being absolutely sick of being awesome to start off with and then being mediocre after the byes. They are blaming the assassination of JFK in 1963 for it so hence the consideration to move the franchise.
Might as well pull out the tank this week and reload with Hall, Martin and Suckling next week. I know there was no tanking for picks however our picks don't change after finals. So can I pull a Ross Lyon and (Rest) some players?
Quote from: R.Griffen on August 05, 2016, 12:51:32 PM
Might as well pull out the tank this week and reload with Hall, Martin and Suckling next week. I know there was no tanking for picks however our picks don't change after finals. So can I pull a Ross Lyon and (Rest) some players?
My answer is no. I'm not sure why you'd want to do that anyway. You'd seriously be kicking yourself if you did that and didn't win on the sole fact you rested players. You have a significant advantage to win the whole thing if you win this week. Do you want to make this harder for yourself?
To add to that, unlike last year where your draft pick was as of the end of the home and away season, this year your draft pick will be where you leave the finals series, e.g. if you get eliminated in the elimination finals, then you will get pick 5 or 6. To determine which one, the lower scoring team will get the better pick.
These players come off teams lists once the season is over,some of these players go back into the rookie draft.
Arizona
Sam Grimley
James Gwilt
El Paso
Matt Dea
Lincoln McCarthy
Hawaii
Jonathan Simpkin
Matthew Stokes
LA
Nathan Grima
James Kelly
Tom Wallis
Niacagua
James Polkinghorne
Anthony McDonald Tippa
Mason Cox
Springfield
Sean Dempster
Guadalajara
Jed Adcock
Ryan Crowley
Ryan Davis
Washington
Sam Michael
And these players are the banned ones,and you are able to trade them or whatever you want now.
Jobe Watson - LA
Dyson Heppell - Hawaii
Cale Hooker - Pirates
Michael Hurley - LA
Tom Bellchambers - Nicaragua
Heath Hocking - Pirates
Travis Colyer - El Paso
Michael Hibberd - Springfield
Ben Howlett - Nicaragua
David Myers - LA
Brent Stanton - Hawaii
Tayte Pears - Arizona
Jake Carlisle - El Paso
Patrick Ryder - Washington
Stewart Crameri - Nicaragua
Jake Melksham - Pirates
Angus Monfries - Arizona
Oh yeah, was Adcock, not Fisher haha.
IN: Heppell, Stanton
OUT: Simpkin, Stokes
Boom.
IN: Pears, Monfries.
Out: Grimley, Gwilt.
Fizzle.
In:Travis Colyer; Jake Carlisle
Out: Matt Dea; Lincoln McCarthy
Tell them i'm dreaming :P
IN: Nil
OUT: Nil
I win! :P
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Am I going to be PM'ed about not being able to trade. 20 trade movements and I have 6 left so what's the issue?
Gloat Post: Hawaii October 2016So with the bulk of my trading done, and only one movement remaining, its probably fair to say we are pretty much closed for business until drafting.
It is with great pleasure I unveil the 2016 Hawaiian Hydro Bombs line up!
Hawaii Hydro-Bombs
B: B.Vince, B.Smith, J.Bartel, S.Savage
M: S.Pendlebury, L.Parker, T.Cotchin, D.Beams, D.Heppell, T.Scully
U: S.Ross, D.Armitage, M.Murphy
R: S.Mumford
F: D.Zorko, T.Lynch, J.Kennedy, J.Riewoldt
Quote from: elephants on October 06, 2016, 04:14:43 PM
Gloat Post: Hawaii October 2016
So with the bulk of my trading done, and only one movement remaining, its probably fair to say we are pretty much closed for business until drafting.
It is with great pleasure I unveil the 2016 Hawaiian Hydro Bombs line up!
Hawaii Hydro-Bombs
B: B.Vince, B.Smith, J.Bartel, S.Savage
M: S.Pendlebury, L.Parker, T.Cotchin, D.Beams, D.Heppell, T.Scully
U: S.Ross, D.Armitage, M.Murphy
R: S.Mumford
F: D.Zorko, T.Lynch, J.Kennedy, J.Riewoldt
Could scratch up that back line a bit ;) seeing as 1 of those blokes are a good chance to not play next year haha.
Quote from: Pkbaldy on October 06, 2016, 05:26:41 PM
Quote from: elephants on October 06, 2016, 04:14:43 PM
Gloat Post: Hawaii October 2016
So with the bulk of my trading done, and only one movement remaining, its probably fair to say we are pretty much closed for business until drafting.
It is with great pleasure I unveil the 2016 Hawaiian Hydro Bombs line up!
Hawaii Hydro-Bombs
B: B.Vince, B.Smith, J.Bartel, S.Savage
M: S.Pendlebury, L.Parker, T.Cotchin, D.Beams, D.Heppell, T.Scully
U: S.Ross, D.Armitage, M.Murphy
R: S.Mumford
F: D.Zorko, T.Lynch, J.Kennedy, J.Riewoldt
Could scratch up that back line a bit ;) seeing as 1 of those blokes are a good chance to not play next year haha.
I reckon Jimmy will get another deal, but if he doesn't up steps Ricky Henderson (at a new club), Nick Vlastuin (play him in the guts Tiges ffs) or Kamdyn McIntosh (racked it across HB). One of McGovern and Ibbo could do anything (legit 50ppg-90ppg).
But its probably the only question mark atm :P
Pity its says 2016 in the post,bit late for that now :P
Quote from: LF on October 06, 2016, 05:30:41 PM
Pity its says 2016 in the post,bit late for that now :P
Haha shower sake :P
Quote from: elephants on October 06, 2016, 05:29:15 PM
Quote from: Pkbaldy on October 06, 2016, 05:26:41 PM
Quote from: elephants on October 06, 2016, 04:14:43 PM
Gloat Post: Hawaii October 2016
So with the bulk of my trading done, and only one movement remaining, its probably fair to say we are pretty much closed for business until drafting.
It is with great pleasure I unveil the 2016 Hawaiian Hydro Bombs line up!
Hawaii Hydro-Bombs
B: B.Vince, B.Smith, J.Bartel, S.Savage
M: S.Pendlebury, L.Parker, T.Cotchin, D.Beams, D.Heppell, T.Scully
U: S.Ross, D.Armitage, M.Murphy
R: S.Mumford
F: D.Zorko, T.Lynch, J.Kennedy, J.Riewoldt
Could scratch up that back line a bit ;) seeing as 1 of those blokes are a good chance to not play next year haha.
I reckon Jimmy will get another deal, but if he doesn't up steps Ricky Henderson (at a new club), Nick Vlastuin (play him in the guts Tiges ffs) or Kamdyn McIntosh (racked it across HB). One of McGovern and Ibbo could do anything (legit 50ppg-90ppg).
But its probably the only question mark atm :P
And all 3 utils are shower ;)
Tiges won't do that. They're too dumb man. They'll play spud rioli through the middle.
Quote from: Pkbaldy on October 06, 2016, 05:36:04 PM
Quote from: elephants on October 06, 2016, 05:29:15 PM
Quote from: Pkbaldy on October 06, 2016, 05:26:41 PM
Quote from: elephants on October 06, 2016, 04:14:43 PM
Gloat Post: Hawaii October 2016
So with the bulk of my trading done, and only one movement remaining, its probably fair to say we are pretty much closed for business until drafting.
It is with great pleasure I unveil the 2016 Hawaiian Hydro Bombs line up!
Hawaii Hydro-Bombs
B: B.Vince, B.Smith, J.Bartel, S.Savage
M: S.Pendlebury, L.Parker, T.Cotchin, D.Beams, D.Heppell, T.Scully
U: S.Ross, D.Armitage, M.Murphy
R: S.Mumford
F: D.Zorko, T.Lynch, J.Kennedy, J.Riewoldt
Could scratch up that back line a bit ;) seeing as 1 of those blokes are a good chance to not play next year haha.
I reckon Jimmy will get another deal, but if he doesn't up steps Ricky Henderson (at a new club), Nick Vlastuin (play him in the guts Tiges ffs) or Kamdyn McIntosh (racked it across HB). One of McGovern and Ibbo could do anything (legit 50ppg-90ppg).
But its probably the only question mark atm :P
And all 3 utils are shower ;)
Tiges won't do that. They're too dumb man. They'll play spud rioli through the middle.
Well 2/3 play for the Saints, so inevitably they're gonna be crap ;)
Nicaragua Survivors:
In: Luke Breust,Anthony Miles,Josh Jenkins,Jason Holmes,Nat Pick 42,Leigh Montagna, Jordan Lewis
Out: Luke Dahlhaus,Nat Pick 35,Jack Newnes,Toby McLean,Nat Pick 11,Nat Pick 47, Billy Hartung, Pick 23
safe to say my starting team is looking better next year or nah?
A vote has been sent out regarding a rule change if everyone could send their vote back asap
Also just a reminder for any coach wanting to change their team name for next season to let us know what team name and area they will be in remember to try not to use team names or places that are used in another comp
BXVs coaching position available
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I am half way through up dating team lists on the spread sheet ready for drafting
Once it's done I will post up how may picks each team can use in the drafts and also which teams will need supplementary picks at the end of the rookie draft
I will update if needed once trading is closed
So we get new positions coming through on Monday
I am thinking maybe we can start the rookie draft once positions come out rather than before,it could be very value to everyone knowing positions when drafting
Quote from: LF on November 30, 2016, 05:32:58 PM
So we get new positions coming through on Monday
I am thinking maybe we can start the rookie draft once positions come out rather than before,it could be very value to everyone knowing positions when drafting
Sounds like a good idea to me. I'll be back onshore so just PM me when you want me to start the draft :)
Quote from: popedelio on November 30, 2016, 06:28:50 PM
Quote from: LF on November 30, 2016, 05:32:58 PM
So we get new positions coming through on Monday
I am thinking maybe we can start the rookie draft once positions come out rather than before,it could be very value to everyone knowing positions when drafting
Sounds like a good idea to me. I'll be back onshore so just PM me when you want me to start the draft :)
Yep will do :)
Chucking a monster tantrum cos Zorko loses dpp yet Dahl keeps it.... And look at what I paid for Zorko compared to what LF paid for Dahl.
Watts + Gresham + N7 for Zorko + Buntine
Miles + Breust for Dahl + N35
Unfathomable.
Quote from: elephants on December 02, 2016, 05:57:28 PM
Chucking a monster tantrum cos Zorko loses dpp yet Dahl keeps it.... And look at what I paid for Zorko compared to what LF paid for Dahl.
Watts + Gresham + N7 for Zorko + Buntine
Miles + Breust for Dahl + N35
Unfathomable.
I got Dahl thinking he'd be mid only think KB thought the same thing,really surprised he kept DPP
Zorko I thought was 50/50 to keep it
yes i thought Dahl would be mid only or would of kept him
pretty happy Montagna and Hartlett are defenders
http://forum.fanfooty.com.au/index.php/topic,108253.0.html
This thread has a discussion which includes confirmed player positions for next season on quite a few players