I've seen him in a lot of teams, and I know at $470k he is cheap, but is anyone worried about him getting on and not getting back to his best?
Quote from: Blues Blues Blues on February 12, 2016, 10:35:42 PM
I've seen him in a lot of teams, and I know at $470k he is cheap, but is anyone worried about him getting on and not getting back to his best?
No, but just don't have him in same team as Boyd or McVeigh. With only 90 interchange rotations resting will be more frequent with all 3.
Quote from: Blues Blues Blues on February 12, 2016, 10:35:42 PM
I've seen him in a lot of teams, and I know at $470k he is cheap, but is anyone worried about him getting on and not getting back to his best?
Not really
(http://i.imgur.com/7JvjVkz.png)
Averaged 96 last year too, not 87 when you remove the game he was subbed out for 5
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on February 12, 2016, 10:43:24 PM
Quote from: Blues Blues Blues on February 12, 2016, 10:35:42 PM
I've seen him in a lot of teams, and I know at $470k he is cheap, but is anyone worried about him getting on and not getting back to his best?
Not really
(http://i.imgur.com/7JvjVkz.png)
Averaged 96 last year too, not 87 when you remove the game he was subbed out for 5
He's in ur team then RD?
Quote from: Blues Blues Blues on February 12, 2016, 11:16:52 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on February 12, 2016, 10:43:24 PM
Quote from: Blues Blues Blues on February 12, 2016, 10:35:42 PM
I've seen him in a lot of teams, and I know at $470k he is cheap, but is anyone worried about him getting on and not getting back to his best?
Not really
(http://i.imgur.com/7JvjVkz.png)
Averaged 96 last year too, not 87 when you remove the game he was subbed out for 5
He's in ur team then RD?
I think he's in everyone's team haha
Originally I was concerned about him but apart from last year he has a history of 18+ games and has had a keeper average for a defender every year, including last year as RD said when you take the sub game out, which for me is 95+
Solid pick and in my current AF,DT and SC teams.
The only no brainer in defence.
Had the same question in my mind too but can't overlook him. Locked.
Has been locked in since day 1
Im not goin there....Ill wait and see how he starts.
Is old by footy standards, but its a given he will not be let off the leash like he was in that solid Girlong team of the last few years, I reckon he will be one of the 1st to be picked up by the opposition this year
Quote from: bowyanger on February 13, 2016, 10:21:03 AM
Im not goin there....Ill wait and see how he starts.
Is old by footy standards, but its a given he will not be let off the leash like he was in that solid Girlong team of the last few years, I reckon he will be one of the 1st to be picked up by the opposition this year
Really one of the first picked up I thought the opposition would be right onto Danger , Selwood and other younger types instead of tired old Jimmy :P
Got him locked into my side, even if he averages 95 he would be a good get for mine.
I don't want to pick him as a POD but I don't think I have the balls haha
If I don't start him and he goes 100+ I'll never forgive myself :)
could be a good pod not to start him.....hmmm has me thinking.
Quote from: fanTCfool on February 13, 2016, 10:50:27 AM
Got him locked into my side, even if he averages 95 he would be a good get for mine.
95 is premium. Anything 90+ from Jimmy would be fine
Quote from: Ricochet on February 13, 2016, 09:59:03 AM
Has been locked in since day 1
This.
At worst I think he averages 90 and is a good D5-6. Can average 97-102ish and be one of the top 3 defenders.
Quote from: Ricochet on February 13, 2016, 09:59:03 AM
Has been locked in since day 1
When he went down in the first minute for 5 points i had him locked in
Quote from: Holz on February 13, 2016, 12:57:24 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on February 13, 2016, 09:59:03 AM
Has been locked in since day 1
When he went down in the first minute for 5 points i had him locked in
And I was set on trading him out. :'(
My concerns with Bartel was him getting manager throughout the year not his ability to score
Just means we must get our hands on a reliable d7 at some point in the season
Quote from: eaglesman on February 13, 2016, 01:26:30 PM
My concerns with Bartel was him getting manager throughout the year not his ability to score
Just means we must get our hands on a reliable d7 at some point in the season
Yep and it is also the reason you don't want to start the other old boys
Jimmy locked and loaded .. underpriced due to injury and classed as a defender 8)
Only premo I will be starting with in my backline.
Just remember there is an additional bye before the finals as well so may not be rested as much especially if cats are in a dog fight for final 8.
Locked in my team as well and i will gladly accept 95 from him.
Geelong don't tend to rest as well, Enright was 33 last year and played every game.
Quote from: TomK on February 13, 2016, 05:44:12 PM
Geelong don't tend to rest as well, Enright was 33 last year and played every game.
Depends if there fighting for position or not
61 pts in a flogging of the bombers. I notice he attended zero centre bounces.
Anyone see the game? Anyone rethinking picking him?
Quote from: Blues Blues Blues on March 05, 2016, 10:12:22 PM
61 pts in a flogging of the bombers. I notice he attended zero centre bounces.
Anyone see the game? Anyone rethinking picking him?
From Jock Reynolds page:
Jimmy Bartel was running around all over the joint during the first half. He wasn’t doing much more than having a casual stroll, but the fact Chris Scott let him roam free was a good sign. However, after Thurlow went down, he spent a lot more time in the back half. 14 disposals, 11 uncontested. Only 61 points but he was blowing out the cobwebs.
Cats have one more NAB match yes? I'd be paying attention only to that, I imagine he would go a little harder in the last hitout before the season kicks off
Quote from: fanTCfool on March 05, 2016, 10:22:25 PM
Cats have one more NAB match yes? I'd be paying attention only to that, I imagine he would go a little harder in the last hitout before the season kicks off
Bartel is a premium. What he does in the next NAB doesn't mean anything really
Has not left my side once and won't
bartel like most premo's don't do much in NAB
It was stinking hot in that game aswell, wasn't going to kill himself in a Nab game.
Quote from: sammy123 on March 06, 2016, 07:12:24 PM
bartel like most premo's don't do much in NAB
This bloke gets it
Out of the game with concussion
Not the first time either
Did anyone see the hit? How big was it?
Quote from: piesfan1989 on March 12, 2016, 07:00:02 PM
Did anyone see the hit? How big was it?
Didn't look that bad, I think Blicavs got him in a marking contest. He may have hit the ground with his head which never helps
Bugger he was one of the few "premo" defenders l had faith in, the mid pricers in defense is where the value is at
will keep him in looked okay before the hit
Quote from: sammy123 on March 12, 2016, 08:15:28 PM
will keep him in looked okay before the hit
Yes but another concussion - that makes 14 that I can find
"April 10, 2015 Herald Sun
GEELONG’S decision to rest concussed star Jimmy Bartel against Fremantle was made after consulting the specialist who conducted 2011 brain scans on the Brownlow Medallist.
Bartel was withdrawn from Geelong’s 25-man squad to take on the Dockers, the Cats unwilling to risk a player concussed at least 11 times in his career.
He had those brain scans in 2011 after two serious concussions including a June incident in which he couldn’t remember his side’s win afterwards."
It must be a worry (SC not withstanding).
Would hate to see it have long term affect on Jimmy
It is one thing to play as tough as he does - could never doubt his courage - but another to keep playing and cause long term damage - these things accumulate
There are two things to remember with this
Bartel has a nasty history with concussions, he even had to go in for brain scans at one point after suffering two in quick succession a couple years back and a real bad one last year.
The other is that they have a week off next week and then play on the Monday so he has as much time as you could hope to recover.
Quote from: RoughRed on March 12, 2016, 10:12:07 PM
Quote from: sammy123 on March 12, 2016, 08:15:28 PM
will keep him in looked okay before the hit
Yes but another concussion - that makes 14 that I can find
"April 10, 2015 Herald Sun
GEELONG’S decision to rest concussed star Jimmy Bartel against Fremantle was made after consulting the specialist who conducted 2011 brain scans on the Brownlow Medallist.
Bartel was withdrawn from Geelong’s 25-man squad to take on the Dockers, the Cats unwilling to risk a player concussed at least 11 times in his career.
He had those brain scans in 2011 after two serious concussions including a June incident in which he couldn’t remember his side’s win afterwards."
It must be a worry (SC not withstanding).
Would hate to see it have long term affect on Jimmy
It is one thing to play as tough as he does - could never doubt his courage - but another to keep playing and cause long term damage - these things accumulate
One more serious hit and "duty of care" and all that... it may be not his call
Love to be proven wrong
Still locked in my side
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on March 12, 2016, 10:59:52 PM
Still locked in my side
Still in mine as well, but if he misses round 1 I wouldn't touch him with a 10 foot pole so I need to have a back up option in the rolling lockout.
Quote from: Mat0369 on March 12, 2016, 11:20:00 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on March 12, 2016, 10:59:52 PM
Still locked in my side
Still in mine as well, but if he misses round 1 I wouldn't touch him with a 10 foot pole so I need to have a back up option in the rolling lockout.
Birchall would be a pretty good back up
I was watching the start of cats game and thinking to myself I really don't like Birchall all that much ... And Bartel starting get cheap kicks so I put him in my side
5 minutes later I was reminded exactly why I am not bothering with this bloke . There will be many missed games. Laird and rance my 2 back premos
Quote from: eaglesman on March 12, 2016, 11:32:53 PM
I was watching the start of cats game and thinking to myself I really don't like Birchall all that much ... And Bartel starting get cheap kicks so I put him in my side
5 minutes later I was reminded exactly why I am not bothering with this bloke . There will be many missed games. Laird and rance my 2 back premos
To be fair to Jimmy, since 07 he has played 20, 22, 21, 21, 21, 19, 21, 21 and 11 games. Last year he had his first serious injury in a long time and that was the knee. He has had the concussions but he has generally backed up. If he misses games, he will miss 3 total. The ever durable Simmo missed 2 last year.
For reference, using Birchall as an example, these are the games played since 07
22, 22, 19, 21, 21, 20, 14, 22, 18
So he has played 179 of a possible 198 not including finals.
Jimmy had played 177 of a possible 198 not including finals.
Quote from: Mat0369 on March 12, 2016, 11:46:26 PM
Quote from: eaglesman on March 12, 2016, 11:32:53 PM
I was watching the start of cats game and thinking to myself I really don't like Birchall all that much ... And Bartel starting get cheap kicks so I put him in my side
5 minutes later I was reminded exactly why I am not bothering with this bloke . There will be many missed games. Laird and rance my 2 back premos
To be fair to Jimmy, since 07 he has played 20, 22, 21, 21, 21, 19, 21, 21 and 11 games. Last year he had his first serious injury in a long time and that was the knee. He has had the concussions but he has generally backed up. If he misses games, he will miss 3 total. The ever durable Simmo missed 2 last year.
For reference, using Birchall as an example, these are the games played since 07
22, 22, 19, 21, 21, 20, 14, 22, 18
So he has played 179 of a possible 198 not including finals.
Jimmy had played 177 of a possible 198 not including finals.
No denying his history and a SuperCoach star. Im just not picking him this time round
Bartel passed the concussion test though didn't he? I'd say if it wasn't just a NAB Challenge game he would have come back on
Quote from: jfitty on March 13, 2016, 11:41:08 AM
Bartel passed the concussion test though didn't he? I'd say if it wasn't just a NAB Challenge game he would have come back on
Yes he did, according to Nathan Templeton.
The bloke is a superstar and will average 95+ yet again.
Why is everyone worried about a mild concussion???
It's NAB and it was 35 degrees why would you bring a veteran back on in NAB for anyway...
Jimmy Bartel, Superstar, He's won more premierships than StKilda.
Enough said
Jimmy's a lock.
Quote from: jfitty on March 13, 2016, 11:41:08 AM
Bartel passed the concussion test though didn't he? I'd say if it wasn't just a NAB Challenge game he would have come back on
This!
Quote from: cortez on March 13, 2016, 12:10:52 PM
The bloke is a superstar and will average 95+ yet again.
Why is everyone worried about a mild concussion???
It's NAB and it was 35 degrees why would you bring a veteran back on in NAB for anyway...
Jimmy Bartel, Superstar, He's won more premierships than StKilda.
Enough said
Because he's 32 and has had like 15 concussions in his career
Bartel passed the concussion test straight away, but didn't return as a precaution
Is fine, and playing round 1
i don.t have him in my side as he can't fit in my structure. BUT will be in there as soon as i can upgrade him
Quote from: plumdog millionaire on March 13, 2016, 02:51:46 PM
Quote from: cortez on March 13, 2016, 12:10:52 PM
The bloke is a superstar and will average 95+ yet again.
Why is everyone worried about a mild concussion???
It's NAB and it was 35 degrees why would you bring a veteran back on in NAB for anyway...
Jimmy Bartel, Superstar, He's won more premierships than StKilda.
Enough said
Because he's 32 and has had like 15 concussions in his career
11
Quote from: cortez on March 13, 2016, 07:51:19 PM
Quote from: plumdog millionaire on March 13, 2016, 02:51:46 PM
Quote from: cortez on March 13, 2016, 12:10:52 PM
The bloke is a superstar and will average 95+ yet again.
Why is everyone worried about a mild concussion???
It's NAB and it was 35 degrees why would you bring a veteran back on in NAB for anyway...
Jimmy Bartel, Superstar, He's won more premierships than StKilda.
Enough said
Because he's 32 and has had like 15 concussions in his career
11
Oh, ONLY 11
His nab cup wasn't impressive, is he still a good option
Quote from: supercoachhelp on March 16, 2016, 10:41:00 PM
His nab cup wasn't impressive, is he still a good option
He started thr first quarter with thr highest or second highest DT score for geelong..really good signs before the hit, thrn they just didnt risk him. He'll either be very reliable (especially with thurlow going down) or he'll be showerhouse.
Ive been burnt a few times in thr past by not getting him as a defender..im not gonna let that happen again
I'd like him as my D4.
It's between him and houli
D4? Sounds like yourr going heavy down back
My bad D2
Just feel like I'm going to live to regret going with Jimmy. Have a bad feeling he will have a slow year affected by injury and restings.
Can't not start him though
Quote from: quinny88 on March 17, 2016, 07:33:24 PM
Just feel like I'm going to live to regret going with Jimmy. Have a bad feeling he will have a slow year affected by injury and restings.
Can't not start him though
This is why I've gone Guns and Rookies down back. Would much rather waste a trade with Jimmy @D3 as opposed to Williams/Sheridan and co.
Quote from: quinny88 on March 17, 2016, 07:33:24 PM
Just feel like I'm going to live to regret going with Jimmy. Have a bad feeling he will have a slow year affected by injury and restings.
Can't not start him though
He's normally pretty reliable and his price is reasonable, he normally plays 21-22 games a season from memory? apart from last year when he hurt his knee, cant see him not being a top 6 defender by years end. I don't have a crystal ball so I don't know what will happen but im happy to start with him.
I've dropped him cause yeah...feel a bit safer with Laird, just a gut feeling
Laird is a good pick, should go really well again this year. I have a feeling like quinny but I just have to have Jimmy at that price, mine is more AFL Fantasy related though.
I see what you're doing here Blues Blues Blues, you want Jimmy to be unique so you're publicly talking him down.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5DmYLrxR0Y8
This went 0-100 real quick
shots fired
but back to topic - i wont be starting jimmy. i was skeptical before his nab concussion and that just confirmed it. i think he'll be managed throughout the year and will miss 4-5 games. just my opinion.
Quote from: plumdog millionaire on March 17, 2016, 08:45:27 PM
This went 0-100 real quick
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qyDHybPsvto
big time! chill fellas 8)
Quote from: plumdog millionaire on March 17, 2016, 08:45:27 PM
This went 0-100 real quick
Quote from: Jimmykidd on March 17, 2016, 08:47:35 PM
shots fired
Quote from: Bill Manspeaker on March 17, 2016, 08:48:21 PM
big time! chill fellas 8)
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on March 17, 2016, 08:44:18 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5DmYLrxR0Y8
haha sorry lads, must be the time of year. So on edge with AFL season round the corner. Forum needs some verbal sparring to add to the excitement!
Think he wants me to have a knee-jerk reaction ;)
As for Jimmy, lock the lad in! Absolute beast who we are allowed to pick as a backman this season even though he plays all over!
I'll take that 95-100 average in a year where the backs are proving an absolute mare to pick 8)
I had Jimmy for most of the pre season but by having Shaw, Fyfe, Danger and Goldy something has to give. He was the one I was happiest to downgrade. Age, lilkelihood of missing games and a gut feel made the decision for me easier. That and the fact I don't like spending too heavy in defence... All made sense really.
Quote from: enzedder on March 18, 2016, 06:03:47 AM
I had Jimmy for most of the pre season but by having Shaw, Fyfe, Danger and Goldy something has to give. He was the one I was happiest to downgrade. Age, lilkelihood of missing games and a gut feel made the decision for me easier. That and the fact I don't like spending too heavy in defence... All made sense really.
Likelihood of missing games??
(http://i.imgur.com/63W2peS.png)
Prior to an injury last year he's averaged 21 games a year at 106 ppg. Sure, he's not going to average 106 this year, but he's priced at 87. You're winning as long as he averages more than that, and I think 95-100 is perfectly realistic, and good for a defender.
Each to their own :)
I know his record. He's been in my team many times, including r1 last year.
He might do well but might play only a dozen games too.
If he does okay he might be in my team for the finals....he isn't a must have.
Just a reminder he averaged 95.8 unsubbed last year.
so thats 11/11 years of 95+ unsubbed averages.
Should be mentioned that past durability can't be too highly valued. He's a lot older than he was back in the day and I'm led to believe Chris Scott has already mentioned he will be missing a few through management.
Quote from: elephants on March 18, 2016, 03:11:54 PM
Should be mentioned that past durability can't be too highly valued. He's a lot older than he was back in the day and I'm led to believe Chris Scott has already mentioned he will be missing a few through management.
Mhm it is worrying and this is what I'm trying to work out too. 95 avg beautiful, 18-19 games means rookie for 3/4 games, all of a sudden, big drop in ppg. Potential 85-90 scorer not 95 scorer. But then again, youd take 90 haha
At this stage I am comfortable with his price tag given it appears unders.
Resting a few games means his average ie D2/3's average, potentially drops by about 4 - 5 ppg. So not a major issue if you are Holz and chasing overall glory but...
Just hope he gets generally sore on weeks your match ups aren't close because for the majority, that is the main concern.
Quote from: tor01doc on March 18, 2016, 05:29:19 PM
At this stage I am comfortable with his price tag given it appears unders.
Resting a few games means his average ie D2/3's average, potentially drops by about 4 - 5 ppg. So not a major issue if you are Holz and chasing overall glory but...
Just hope he gets generally sore on weeks your match ups aren't close because for the majority, that is the main concern.
correct overall good pick, going for league I would probably look at a laird. thing is though you would assume he wont be rested early unless he cops a niggle. missing 1-2 games in the back end of the season is less of a worry if you can get a decent d7.
Quote from: _wato on March 18, 2016, 04:12:46 PM
Quote from: elephants on March 18, 2016, 03:11:54 PM
Should be mentioned that past durability can't be too highly valued. He's a lot older than he was back in the day and I'm led to believe Chris Scott has already mentioned he will be missing a few through management.
Mhm it is worrying and this is what I'm trying to work out too. 95 avg beautiful, 18-19 games means rookie for 3/4 games, all of a sudden, big drop in ppg. Potential 85-90 scorer not 95 scorer. But then again, youd take 90 haha
For the record, I'm still very keen on him. By the time he gets rested in the later rounds - all going to plan - you should have a decent 7th defender anyway.
Quote from: elephants on March 20, 2016, 04:17:55 PM
Quote from: _wato on March 18, 2016, 04:12:46 PM
Quote from: elephants on March 18, 2016, 03:11:54 PM
Should be mentioned that past durability can't be too highly valued. He's a lot older than he was back in the day and I'm led to believe Chris Scott has already mentioned he will be missing a few through management.
Mhm it is worrying and this is what I'm trying to work out too. 95 avg beautiful, 18-19 games means rookie for 3/4 games, all of a sudden, big drop in ppg. Potential 85-90 scorer not 95 scorer. But then again, youd take 90 haha
For the record, I'm still very keen on him. By the time he gets rested in the later rounds - all going to plan - you should have a decent 7th defender anyway.
exactly
It's between Bartel and Birchall for me at D3. Both have their pros and cons it's a tough one
Jimmy facing uphill battle to keep his spot in Geelong's best 22, Mark Robinson writes
READ: http://bit.ly/1TbAJj3
Quote from: Gambino on March 27, 2016, 12:13:46 PM
Jimmy facing uphill battle to keep his spot in Geelong's best 22, Mark Robinson writes
READ: http://bit.ly/1TbAJj3
all i can say is Lol
Quote from: Gambino on March 27, 2016, 12:13:46 PM
Jimmy facing uphill battle to keep his spot in Geelong's best 22, Mark Robinson writes
READ: http://bit.ly/1TbAJj3
All credibility lost.
Quote from: Gambino on March 27, 2016, 12:13:46 PM
Jimmy facing uphill battle to keep his spot in Geelong's best 22, Mark Robinson writes
READ: http://bit.ly/1TbAJj3
If you read it it's actually a real sad story and nothing to do with football. Mad respect for the guy
Quote from: plumdog millionaire on March 28, 2016, 09:33:57 AM
Quote from: Gambino on March 27, 2016, 12:13:46 PM
Jimmy facing uphill battle to keep his spot in Geelong's best 22, Mark Robinson writes
READ: http://bit.ly/1TbAJj3
If you read it it's actually a real sad story and nothing to do with football. Mad respect for the guy
I agree, must have taken a lot of courage to speak about his childhood. Domestic violence is awful. But WTF is Mark Robinson doing by talking about Bartels struggle to stay in the Cats best 22 in this article? What a cocksmack
bartel will b in the 22 always unless injurd/retired
Quote from: Blues Blues Blues on March 28, 2016, 09:44:16 AM
Quote from: plumdog millionaire on March 28, 2016, 09:33:57 AM
Quote from: Gambino on March 27, 2016, 12:13:46 PM
Jimmy facing uphill battle to keep his spot in Geelong's best 22, Mark Robinson writes
READ: http://bit.ly/1TbAJj3
If you read it it's actually a real sad story and nothing to do with football. Mad respect for the guy
I agree, must have taken a lot of courage to speak about his childhood. Domestic violence is awful. But WTF is Mark Robinson doing by talking about Bartels struggle to stay in the Cats best 22 in this article? What a cocksmack
Herald Sun editor click bait I assume
Another concussion possibly? :(
Coming back on now
Geez, Hodges knee and bleeding from the ear, Jimmy love the way you play but scary stuff again. Worry about another head knock each week
Gun score under the circumstances. cats look great
Quote from: Holz on March 28, 2016, 07:25:39 PM
Gun score under the circumstances. cats look great
Didn't deserve 80 imo ... Will be a bad selection. Guaranteed!
Quote from: eaglesman on March 28, 2016, 07:31:52 PM
Quote from: Holz on March 28, 2016, 07:25:39 PM
Gun score under the circumstances. cats look great
Didn't deserve 80 imo ... Will be a bad selection. Guaranteed!
giving him the old reverse jinx. love ya work.
Scaled up to 88, will take that against the premiers.
Quote from: Bully on March 28, 2016, 07:41:28 PM
Scaled up to 88, will take that against the premiers.
Quote from: eaglesman on March 28, 2016, 07:31:52 PM
Quote from: Holz on March 28, 2016, 07:25:39 PM
Gun score under the circumstances. cats look great
Didn't deserve 80 imo ... Will be a bad selection. Guaranteed!
Big call. Not sold just yet on the bad selection, but hey, rd 1, so you would probably know more than me
Will be a good pick. Went to the game today and paid special attention to Danger Jelwood and Bartel.
Jimmy just doing as he pleased. Attended a load of stoppages around the ground more so than in the centre. Started on fire. One minute half back, next on the flank, next deep forward getting smacked around by Hodge (would've scored a ton had it not been for that). Given the freedom of his role and how good Geelong look 95 will be an easy feat.
Quote from: _wato on March 28, 2016, 11:47:02 PM
Will be a good pick. Went to the game today and paid special attention to Danger Jelwood and Bartel.
Jimmy just doing as he pleased. Attended a load of stoppages around the ground more so than in the centre. Started on fire. One minute half back, next on the flank, next deep forward getting smacked around by Hodge (would've scored a ton had it not been for that). Given the freedom of his role and how good Geelong look 95 will be an easy feat.
Love your confidence mate! I agree, should get 95.
Quote from: eaglesman on March 28, 2016, 07:31:52 PM
Quote from: Holz on March 28, 2016, 07:25:39 PM
Gun score under the circumstances. cats look great
Didn't deserve 80 imo ... Will be a bad selection. Guaranteed!
Moght not have but 88 injured
Just meeds to stay healthy
I prefer to watch Bartel a bit before bringing him into my side.
If I have to pay $500,000 + for him then so be it.
Poor guy needs the perma-concussion symbol on him. :(
Was a good score considering he copped Luke Hodge's knee in the side of the head.
I was a tad surprised he came back on but the signs were he will play wherever he wants to play and get plenty of the ball. Happy to have picked him.
Quote from: AaronKirk on March 29, 2016, 12:29:48 PM
Was a good score considering he copped Luke Hodge's knee in the side of the head.
I was a tad surprised he came back on but the signs were he will play wherever he wants to play and get plenty of the ball. Happy to have picked him.
Me too, looked like he had his balance completely knocked off due to the ear being cracked. Was looking pretty bad when he got up to walk off, they had to lead him back onto the field and Hodge looked a little worried.
Quote from: AaronKirk on March 29, 2016, 12:29:48 PM
Was a good score considering he copped Luke Hodge's knee in the side of the head.
I was a tad surprised he came back on but the signs were he will play wherever he wants to play and get plenty of the ball. Happy to have picked him.
Was a bit unsure about selecting him too but it seems his worst enemy will be head collisions. If he avoids those he'll be a solid pick
Quote from: Judd Magic on March 29, 2016, 09:20:12 AM
I prefer to watch Bartel a bit before bringing him into my side.
If I have to pay $500,000 + for him then so be it.
I'm in this boat too.
Got a whack to the head yesterday but came back from it. Can't help but think if he gets one bad knock they'll rest him for a month
just has a knack for getting a thump on the head every game this bloke.. looked out of it after the hodgey knee, played pretty well after coming back on though!
Quote from: jfitty on March 29, 2016, 04:38:48 PM
Quote from: Judd Magic on March 29, 2016, 09:20:12 AM
I prefer to watch Bartel a bit before bringing him into my side.
If I have to pay $500,000 + for him then so be it.
I'm in this boat too.
Got a whack to the head yesterday but came back from it. Can't help but think if he gets one bad knock they'll rest him for a month
You are spot on here jfitty!
He is definitely a wait and see option. Would rather pay the coin for him knowing he is in form!
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I prefer to watch Bartel a bit before bringing him into my side.
If I have to pay $500,000 + for him then so be it.
I'm in this boat too.
Got a whack to the head yesterday but came back from it. Can't help but think if he gets one bad knock they'll rest him for a month
You are spot on here jfitty!
He is definitely a wait and see option. Would rather pay the coin for him knowing he is in form!
I didnt trust any other backs though thats why i have him. Im doing the same thing for blokes like laird simpson etc..
Worry a bit about Jimmy and his health down the track. He's a terrific bloke, great player all the head knocks over his career are a little concerning.
Quote from: Grazz on April 01, 2016, 02:33:42 PM
Worry a bit about Jimmy and his health down the track. He's a terrific bloke, great player all the head knocks over his career are a little concerning.
Yeah same, especially after Clarke's recent retirement after one knock... Jimmy's had double digits!
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Worry a bit about Jimmy and his health down the track. He's a terrific bloke, great player all the head knocks over his career are a little concerning.
Yeah same, especially after Clarke's recent retirement after one knock... Jimmy's had double digits!
Bartel & Selwood would have to be leading the comp for concussions wouldn't they?
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Worry a bit about Jimmy and his health down the track. He's a terrific bloke, great player all the head knocks over his career are a little concerning.
Yeah same, especially after Clarke's recent retirement after one knock... Jimmy's had double digits!
Bartel & Selwood would have to be leading the comp for concussions wouldn't they?
Bartel definitely, not 100% on Joel - he seems to bleed a lot, though whether the knocks are concussion-inducing i'm not sure.
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Worry a bit about Jimmy and his health down the track. He's a terrific bloke, great player all the head knocks over his career are a little concerning.
Yeah same, especially after Clarke's recent retirement after one knock... Jimmy's had double digits!
Bartel & Selwood would have to be leading the comp for concussions wouldn't they?
Selwood tries to get hit in the head, Bartel is just naturally good at it.
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Worry a bit about Jimmy and his health down the track. He's a terrific bloke, great player all the head knocks over his career are a little concerning.
Yeah same, especially after Clarke's recent retirement after one knock... Jimmy's had double digits!
Bartel & Selwood would have to be leading the comp for concussions wouldn't they?
Brodiei Smith would be up there
N.Riewoldt also. He was always getting pretty banged up back in the day
Ziebell has had a few also hasn't he.
Jimmy, Jimmy, Jimmy.
Hope you're just getting primed for a big run of form...
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Jimmy, Jimmy, Jimmy.
Hope you're just getting primed for a big run of form...
I think Jimmy to JJ will be a common trade this week
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Jimmy, Jimmy, Jimmy.
Hope you're just getting primed for a big run of form...
I think Jimmy to JJ will be a common trade this week
Probably would be on board if it wasn't for me being already committed to trade Rocky and Barlow
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Jimmy, Jimmy, Jimmy.
Hope you're just getting primed for a big run of form...
I think Jimmy to JJ will be a common trade this week
Is it worth it though? Pretty much only save 50k (JJ will be a keeper so it really doesn't matter how much his price goes up) and Bartel may potentially start scoring well again soon. Thoughts ??
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Jimmy, Jimmy, Jimmy.
Hope you're just getting primed for a big run of form...
I think Jimmy to JJ will be a common trade this week
Is it worth it though? Pretty much only save 50k (JJ will be a keeper so it really doesn't matter how much his price goes up) and Bartel may potentially start scoring well again soon. Thoughts ??
He looks like he is playing a good role for Fantasy, seemed to be all over the ground doing as he pleases but just not getting his hands on it enough.
Old Bartel is Still a Gun Ei Ei O
and on this weekend he will score a Ton Ei Ei O
Quote from: Holz on April 12, 2016, 01:43:23 PM
Old Bartel is Still a Gun Ei Ei O
and on this weekend he will score a Ton Ei Ei O
With a concussion here, and a concussion there
Here concussed, there concussed, everywhere he's concussed
King of junk time!
Quote from: JBs-Hawks on April 12, 2016, 03:26:24 PM
King of junk time!
considering its essendon junk time will be 10 minutes into the 1st quarter. He better go big this week.
I wouldn't mind a big 150 or so to pump up the average a little ;D
Anyone worried about Bartel? Geelong doesn't seem to need him like they used to and he is seeing less ball as a result..
Quote from: MontyJnr on April 18, 2016, 02:01:39 PM
Anyone worried about Bartel? Geelong doesn't seem to need him like they used to and he is seeing less ball as a result..
Yeah I'm a bit worried, I'll trade him out when the rest of my team is spot on :P
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Anyone worried about Bartel? Geelong doesn't seem to need him like they used to and he is seeing less ball as a result..
Yeah I'm a bit worried, I'll trade him out when the rest of my team is spot on :P
So you're keeping him all year then, good idea ;)
I can't see myself trading him unless he falls out of favour entirely mid-season.
i would probably trade him out if my team didnt suck! least of my worries at the moment but i think he will average around what he is 85!
Quote from: ants on April 18, 2016, 02:11:15 PM
i would probably trade him out if my team didnt suck! least of my worries at the moment but i think he will average around what he is 85!
This reason I think applies to us all. Would like to trade because he will reduce average to around 85 with roles he is playing but to shower teams at the moment the very least of our worries. If I have trades left after sorting team out (dont we have 40 :D) will probably then upgrade.
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i would probably trade him out if my team didnt suck! least of my worries at the moment but i think he will average around what he is 85!
This reason I think applies to us all. Would like to trade because he will reduce average to around 85 with roles he is playing but to shower teams at the moment the very least of our worries. If I have trades left after sorting team out (dont we have 40 :D ) will probably then upgrade.
way I am looking Bartel and Barlow will be bye round upgrades at best and maybe even luxury trades.
What to do with this guy, he was on 1 tackle @ qrt time yesterday, come back "ok', but yeah 71 from a premo defender is horrible... What are people gonna do with him?
I've identified a sideways trade that I think will be worthwhile, but he's frustrated me so much I have to move him on.
I dont have him but he looks to be a bit too 'bits and pieces' this season..i wonder how cheap he'll get..
Holding for now.
he'll be ight
Not starting Bartel looking like the only decent decision I made prior to round 1...
He is becoming quite frustrating to own, but I don't think I have the luxury of trading him
I'm already having to blow much more trades than I would like due to injuries and poor starting selections. He's just another on the list :'(
Quote from: GoLions on April 24, 2016, 02:00:07 PM
Not starting Bartel looking like the only decent decision I made prior to round 1...
Haha looks like we're on the same wavelength.... I dodged that bullet but got hit by others.
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Not starting Bartel looking like the only decent decision I made prior to round 1...
Haha looks like we're on the same wavelength.... I dodged that bullet but got hit by others.
Smart move to you both for not starting him. GC @ SS next week, hopefully bounces back with a 85+. Anything below then......
Slightly disappointing but all defenders are like a rollercoaster this year, even if I wanted him out I would struggle to think of a worthy replacement, possibly Rance but KP guys are also unpredictable. Will hold for now.
Quote from: Bully on April 24, 2016, 02:24:14 PM
Slightly disappointing but all defenders are like a rollercoaster this year, even if I wanted him out I would struggle to think of a worthy replacement, possibly Rance but KP guys are also unpredictable. Will hold for now.
Was thinking the same thing. Rance and Docherty are the two that come to mind, but who's to say they won't put in poor scores too
I'm just leaving Shaw, Bartel and rookies down back and I'm happy with that for now considering Dea, Adams, Tippa and DBJ are doing well.
Will try and get every other line spot on first than deal with the mess that is defense last
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Slightly disappointing but all defenders are like a rollercoaster this year, even if I wanted him out I would struggle to think of a worthy replacement, possibly Rance but KP guys are also unpredictable. Will hold for now.
Was thinking the same thing. Rance and Docherty are the two that come to mind, but who's to say they won't put in poor scores too
I'm just leaving Shaw, Bartel and rookies down back and I'm happy with that for now considering Dea, Adams, Tippa and DBJ are doing well.
Will try and get every other line spot on first than deal with the mess that is defense last
Don't say that. :'(
They've been my two best choices.
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Slightly disappointing but all defenders are like a rollercoaster this year, even if I wanted him out I would struggle to think of a worthy replacement, possibly Rance but KP guys are also unpredictable. Will hold for now.
Was thinking the same thing. Rance and Docherty are the two that come to mind, but who's to say they won't put in poor scores too
I'm just leaving Shaw, Bartel and rookies down back and I'm happy with that for now considering Dea, Adams, Tippa and DBJ are doing well.
Will try and get every other line spot on first than deal with the mess that is defense last
Don't say that. :'(
They've been my two best choices.
Looks like you are the 1 of a few in SC that nailed their Def - Good work.
tempted to go up to liard but reckon he is worth keeping.
probably holding on him too long but would rather trade hard on rookie downgrades to bring in more premos.
Quote from: Holz on April 24, 2016, 02:40:42 PM
tempted to go up to liard but reckon he is worth keeping.
probably holding on him too long but would rather trade hard on rookie downgrades to bring in more premos.
Same, i like Laird or Doch however if he bounces back @ SS this week against GC, then I will worry about other upgrades before him. Def has been up & down this year, in saying that when you have < $150K rookies producing the same output as him, you start to worry.
Gonna have to hold him again >:(
Just learned my lesson with Barlow by keeping him and will be keeoing Bartel. Bigger issues now with injuries. Fyfe and Cutler both look like missing weeks.
Quote from: GoLions on April 24, 2016, 02:00:07 PM
Not starting Bartel looking like the only decent decision I made prior to round 1...
Where was the PM to us on Bartel and his mate Barlow.
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Quote from: GoLions on April 24, 2016, 02:00:07 PM
Not starting Bartel looking like the only decent decision I made prior to round 1...
Where was the PM to us on Bartel and his mate Barlow.
Started Barlow haha, happy with the last few weeks at least
Looks like he will be D7/M9-10.
Not happy, but will do. Dea, Adams, Weitering and McTip will need all of 200k MAX in 3 weeks to upgrade to Simpson/Houli/Gibson then push Bartel to D7 in the final few rounds with the final defender who in flying.
Geelong seem to be managing their players with at least one having a rest each week.
Bartel hasn't had his turn yet, so if he missed this week would anyone see it as an opportunity to move him on?
Quote from: MontyJnr on April 26, 2016, 03:58:07 PM
Geelong seem to be managing their players with at least one having a rest each week.
Bartel hasn't had his turn yet, so if he missed this week would anyone see it as an opportunity to move him on?
I would consider it, Bartel has been up & down -Then again so has most Premo Defender's. ::)
With defenders up and down will be last line to upgrade. So will hold Bartel even if rested as he is still scoring ok and will allow me to work out best defenders to upgrade to.
Fingers crossed he gets up this week, should go well against the Suns at Simmonds.
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Quote from: MontyJnr on April 26, 2016, 03:58:07 PM
Geelong seem to be managing their players with at least one having a rest each week.
Bartel hasn't had his turn yet, so if he missed this week would anyone see it as an opportunity to move him on?
I would consider it, Bartel has been up & down -Then again so has most Premo Defender's. ::)
bartel seems to rest alot during the game.
I've got Byrne as cover, so he will probably score just as well as Jimmy :-[
With Rance gone for two, I might be forced to trade Jimmy considering he isn't performing.
Last two scores 54 and 65. I think it might be that ridiculous birdsnest of a beard starting to weigh him down. It seems like the longer it gets, the worse he plays. It might have something to do with the 6-pack I was helping to consume, but last night I could swear I saw a magpie fly out it just before half-time. Anyway, I've got the money and I've got the trades so it could be the right time to bring in a clean-shaven dude like Boyd.
I'd wait ronl, at this point in the season you can't have any other gaps if you're wasting trades on Bartel.
Bring in his clean-shaven buddy Boris Enright
Was on like 63 at 3qt, bit too reactionary imo
Didn't have a great night but should get better, last night was a crazy fast game
Quote from: ronl on July 09, 2016, 11:02:32 AM
Last two scores 54 and 65. I think it might be that ridiculous birdsnest of a beard starting to weigh him down. It seems like the longer it gets, the worse he plays. It might have something to do with the 6-pack I was helping to consume, but last night I could swear I saw a magpie fly out it just before half-time. Anyway, I've got the money and I've got the trades so it could be the right time to bring in a clean-shaven dude like Boyd.
I'm intrigued by the relevance of a magpie at half time. ;D
Quote from: ronl on July 09, 2016, 11:02:32 AM
Last two scores 54 and 65. I think it might be that ridiculous birdsnest of a beard starting to weigh him down. It seems like the longer it gets, the worse he plays. It might have something to do with the 6-pack I was helping to consume, but last night I could swear I saw a magpie fly out it just before half-time. Anyway, I've got the money and I've got the trades so it could be the right time to bring in a clean-shaven dude like Boyd.
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Geelong have lost the last two, they wont lose that many more!
Quote from: JBs-Hawks on July 09, 2016, 12:01:40 PM
Geelong have lost the last two, they wont lose that many more!
Yeah before the last two his scoring was great
130,101,115,109,93,100,123,109
Thats one of the better runs for any player. let alone defenders, I think I'll hold :P
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Quote from: JBs-Hawks on July 09, 2016, 12:01:40 PM
Geelong have lost the last two, they wont lose that many more!
Yeah before the last two his scoring was great
130,101,115,109,93,100,123,109
Thats one of the better runs for any player. let alone defenders, I think I'll hold :P
Smart move the Cats had there pants pulled down at home and that does not happen very often
Quote from: _wato on July 09, 2016, 11:30:45 AM
Was on like 63 at 3qt, bit too reactionary imo
Didn't have a great night but should get better, last night was a crazy fast game
Yeah a quiet last quarter like many cats, was made to play out of his normal position up forward which probably impacted his last quarter scoring considering that the ball was up the other end for a lot of the second half.
The time to trade him would've been around his bye.
I wouldn't be surprised to see him return to his early season form where he was putting up 60's and 70's, but you probably have to tough it with him now and hope he turns it around.
Quote from: MontyJnr on July 09, 2016, 01:15:12 PM
The time to trade him would've been around his bye.
I wouldn't be surprised to see him return to his early season form where he was putting up 60's and 70's, but you probably have to tough it with him now and hope he turns it around.
That's a daft comment, why would anyone trade him on his bye when he was averaging 110 between R6 and R13
There's not too many defenders who consistently go 90+ every single week
I'm not too worried
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Quote from: MontyJnr on July 09, 2016, 01:15:12 PM
The time to trade him would've been around his bye.
I wouldn't be surprised to see him return to his early season form where he was putting up 60's and 70's, but you probably have to tough it with him now and hope he turns it around.
That's a daft comment, why would anyone trade him on his bye when he was averaging 110 between R6 and R13
I agree fantcfool.
very very daft
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Quote from: MontyJnr on July 09, 2016, 01:15:12 PM
The time to trade him would've been around his bye.
I wouldn't be surprised to see him return to his early season form where he was putting up 60's and 70's, but you probably have to tough it with him now and hope he turns it around.
That's a daft comment, why would anyone trade him on his bye when he was averaging 110 between R6 and R13
Because he looked super poor in the Saints game pre-bye and now he's pumped out another average score. Most people were struggling to field 18 in Round 15 and I had a mate who took the opportunity to upgrade Bartel to Docherty. It's looking like a good move at this stage.
Hopefully Jimmy turns it around for you ;)
What are peoples thoughts on this...
I have Collins at D6 who I can loophole with Brand every week. I have 100K in the bank and only one trade allocated to upgrade
Collins should peak out at around 330K, which means I'll have about 430K to spend. The problem is, all the defenders in that price range are not great, and might only net me a small amount over the Collins/Brand combo
So, do I just use the 100K to turn Bartel in Docherty instead and then just loop Collins and Brand for the rest of the year as D6?
Seriously think the points gained by having Docherty will outweigh the difference between Collins and a 400k defender
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What are peoples thoughts on this...
I have Collins at D6 who I can loophole with Brand every week. I have 100K in the bank and only one trade allocated to upgrade
Collins should peak out at around 330K, which means I'll have about 430K to spend. The problem is, all the defenders in that price range are not great, and might only net me a small amount over the Collins/Brand combo
So, do I just use the 100K to turn Bartel in Docherty instead and then just loop Collins and Brand for the rest of the year as D6?
Seriously think the points gained by having Docherty will outweigh the difference between Collins and a 400k defender
I think the Brand and Collins at d6 is ok if you don't have trades left. But I wouldn't be trading Bartel. Has an awesome run home and I think will go at around 85-95 minimum
Make life easy, RD. Just bring in Docherty, sit back, open a beer, press the button and watch those points roll on in.
Id hold Bartel. All teams with older players rest those players on trips to perth. I'm not suprised at all he was rested this week.
I'd be more concerned about older players who'll possibly get rested from perth trips during SC finals
Quote from: timmyparso on July 15, 2016, 11:06:28 AM
Id hold Bartel. All teams with older players rest those players on trips to perth. I'm not suprised at all he was rested this week.
I'd be more concerned about older players who'll possibly get rested from perth trips during SC finals
Yeah fair comment. Geelong do travel to Brisbane in Round 22 so there's a chance of a rest there, but I don't think Bartel would get another rest then
Also, I need to ask myself if I would do this trade if Brand had of scored 75+, and the answer would be no because I would be happy to take that as cover for Bartel
Think I might just cop Brand's 48 and keep the trade
I'm 3.5 games clear on top of the ladder in my cash league so a loss wouldn't really hurt if it happens because I've got 1st locked up already. I'll just cop the drop in overall which is fine
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on July 15, 2016, 11:16:52 AM
Quote from: timmyparso on July 15, 2016, 11:06:28 AM
Id hold Bartel. All teams with older players rest those players on trips to perth. I'm not suprised at all he was rested this week.
I'd be more concerned about older players who'll possibly get rested from perth trips during SC finals
Yeah fair comment. Geelong do travel to Brisbane in Round 22 so there's a chance of a rest there, but I don't think Bartel would get another rest then
Also, I need to ask myself if I would do this trade if Brand had of scored 75+, and the answer would be no because I would be happy to take that as cover for Bartel
Think I might just cop Brand's 48 and keep the trade
I'm 3.5 games clear on top of the ladder in my cash league so a loss wouldn't really hurt if it happens because I've got 1st locked up already. I'll just cop the drop in overall which is fine
I'd be rolling the dice and going with Collins. He'll outscore 48.
But you're right re the trade, not worth it imo
Now that Laird is out I would cop a donut with Bartel out as well. Which is the better option out of sideways trading Bartel to Docherty, or using two trades to keep Bartel and move Elliot Yeo to D7.
Would leave Aaron Hall and Elliot Yeo as bench cover with a couple of trades left.
Quote from: dicko_ on July 15, 2016, 02:08:02 PM
Now that Laird is out I would cop a donut with Bartel out as well. Which is the better option out of sideways trading Bartel to Docherty, or using two trades to keep Bartel and move Elliot Yeo to D7.
Would leave Aaron Hall and Elliot Yeo as bench cover with a couple of trades left.
Yeo at d7. Solid cover for the rest of the year.
Now I'm copping a donut with both Bartel and Laird out
1. Cop the donut
2. Bartel to Docherty
3. Lee to Castagna
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on July 15, 2016, 02:51:23 PM
Now I'm copping a donut with both Bartel and Laird out
1. Cop the donut
2. Bartel to Docherty
3. Lee to Castagna
Depends on how many trades you have left mate. If I had 5-6 I'd be going with option 2.
You get an instant 100pt gain plus whatever Doc averages more per week than Bartel in the run home.
Best case you net 100 plus 15 pts per week and Bartel misses another game
Worst case you gain 100 pts and Bartel averages similar to Doc.
If you're struggling on trades I'd cop a donut as Bartel isn't a LTI and you're going to come some of them in the run home
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Quote from: RaisyDaisy on July 15, 2016, 02:51:23 PM
Now I'm copping a donut with both Bartel and Laird out
1. Cop the donut
2. Bartel to Docherty
3. Lee to Castagna
Depends on how many trades you have left mate. If I had 5-6 I'd be going with option 2.
You get an instant 100pt gain plus whatever Doc averages more per week than Bartel in the run home.
Best case you net 100 plus 15 pts per week and Bartel misses another game
Worst case you gain 100 pts and Bartel averages similar to Doc.
If you're struggling on trades I'd cop a donut as Bartel isn't a LTI and you're going to come some of them in the run home
Cheers Robbo
I have 2 trades left - one of which I am putting in the vault and will only be used if an LTI occurs, so that leaves one trade to play with. I was going to use that trade plus the 100k I have in the bank to upgrade Collins next (But could only afford a defender up to 430k which is slim pickings)
Basically, I have Collins as D6, 1 trade and 100k. So, do I use that 100k and grab a speculative 400-430k defender next week and cop the donut in the meantime, or do I use that 100k to just upgrade Bartel to Docherty and avoid the donut, or do I use that trade to turn Lee (D8) to Castagna and then just field one of Collins/Brand/Castagna at D6 for the rest of the year, leaving me with 1 trade and 100k which if I get through the next few weeks unscathed I could then upgrade Collins
Thanks for your services Jimmy but its goodbye..
6 trades left but will be down to 4 if i go
Gaz to sloane
Jimmy to doch...or boyd
I'll be copping a donut if I don't do a backline trade.
Other option I'm tossing around which might be silly, Trengove> to a mid/def under 370kand switch Bartel to mids? Probably only smith or Henderson available but would use up all my cash saved
Thoughts?
Just came up with a new plan that I think might work
I currently have Hall and Libba as M8/M9
I trade out Libba, move Bartel to mid bench and bring in Docherty which means I have Bartell and Hall as M8/M9 for the rest of the year, but with DPP I can swing Hall into the forwards to cover there if need be, and then next week or whenever I use my last trade on Lee to a DEF/MID rookie so I can swing Bartel back into the backs and move Collins and Brand to the bench. I can then swing Hall and Bartel across all lines
Thoughts? Reckon I've convinced myself to do it
I could also do this, thanks for the idea now I don't know what I'm doing ???
I might do Ablett out for either Boyd or Simmo - swing Bartel to mid bench as have Joyce for DPP and cover this week.
Leaves me with Shaw Doc Laird Bartel Rance and one of the two mentioned above.
Which one though? Boyd or Simmo?
Good game last night too.
Quote from: tor01doc on July 15, 2016, 06:57:36 PM
I might do Ablett out for either Boyd or Simmo - swing Bartel to mid bench as have Joyce for DPP and cover this week.
Leaves me with Shaw Doc Laird Bartel Rance and one of the two mentioned above.
Which one though? Boyd or Simmo?
Good game last night too.
I have both, and I guess I have a bit more confidence in Simmo performing well each week compared to Boyd. In saying that, Boyd probably has the potential to score a bit higher, but I think I'd go with Simmo :)
Cheers GL.
Have one trade left and am now facing the prospect of a donut, with all of Laird, Bartel & Tucker out. My only real option is to trade Libba for Boyd and open up a DPP link. Zero trades for the rest of the year? Reckon that's a bit risky, might just hold fire and cop my dues.
Quote from: Bully on July 15, 2016, 08:01:42 PM
Have one trade left and am now facing the prospect of a donut, with all of Laird, Bartel & Tucker out. My only real option is to trade Libba for Boyd and open up a DPP link. Zero trades for the rest of the year? Reckon that's a bit risky, might just hold fire and cop my dues.
My trigger finger is incredibly itchy, 1 hour to go.............it also means I can get Rich off the field for the remaining 5 weeks. The team is stronger and there's no telling how bad Laird's injury is (not to mention Bartel).
What do the masses think?
Quote from: Bully on July 15, 2016, 08:15:01 PM
Quote from: Bully on July 15, 2016, 08:01:42 PM
Have one trade left and am now facing the prospect of a donut, with all of Laird, Bartel & Tucker out. My only real option is to trade Libba for Boyd and open up a DPP link. Zero trades for the rest of the year? Reckon that's a bit risky, might just hold fire and cop my dues.
My trigger finger is incredibly itchy, 1 hour to go.............it also means I can get Rich off the field for the remaining 5 weeks. The team is stronger and there's no telling how bad Laird's injury is (not to mention Bartel).
What do the masses think?
I've done Libba to Docherty, but still have a trade left. Tough in your spot
Laird expected to be back next week and Bartel rested so expect both back next week
Quote from: Bully on July 15, 2016, 08:15:01 PM
Quote from: Bully on July 15, 2016, 08:01:42 PM
Have one trade left and am now facing the prospect of a donut, with all of Laird, Bartel & Tucker out. My only real option is to trade Libba for Boyd and open up a DPP link. Zero trades for the rest of the year? Reckon that's a bit risky, might just hold fire and cop my dues.
My trigger finger is incredibly itchy, 1 hour to go.............it also means I can get Rich off the field for the remaining 5 weeks. The team is stronger and there's no telling how bad Laird's injury is (not to mention Bartel).
What do the masses think?
No doubting it'll improve your side but if (heaven forbid) Pendles/Danger/one of your stars goes down and you're left with 600k on the bench whilst everyone around you has trades left to bring in a replacement super premo, you'll be a lot further behind than the 60 points you'll miss out on by copping a donut this week.
Not too sure on Laird but we know Bartel will be back next week and with a decent run home
With 3 trades left and painfully short of going Petracca to Simmo, to cover Bartel by moving him to the mids, not sure if i should take a consolation and pick up a Williams/Pittard/Yeo at D6/7 with Bartel covering, or just trade Bartel to Simmo.
Could also wait a week, cop a donut, and grab Simmo next week with Bartel covering
I'd be grateful for any advice you guys could give
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on July 15, 2016, 08:26:12 PM
Quote from: Bully on July 15, 2016, 08:15:01 PM
Quote from: Bully on July 15, 2016, 08:01:42 PM
Have one trade left and am now facing the prospect of a donut, with all of Laird, Bartel & Tucker out. My only real option is to trade Libba for Boyd and open up a DPP link. Zero trades for the rest of the year? Reckon that's a bit risky, might just hold fire and cop my dues.
My trigger finger is incredibly itchy, 1 hour to go.............it also means I can get Rich off the field for the remaining 5 weeks. The team is stronger and there's no telling how bad Laird's injury is (not to mention Bartel).
What do the masses think?
I've done Libba to Docherty, but still have a trade left. Tough in your spot
Laird expected to be back next week and Bartel rested so expect both back next week
I think I'll just have to bite the bullet and do this trade, my aim is to hit the top 100 and I don't think it will be possible if I cop a zero. Rich can sit at M9 for the rest of the year and my backline will be essentially the top 6 defenders. Will have Menadue at F7 but at least he's getting games and doing ok. 5 weeks to go but no guts, no glory.
Quote from: roo boys! on July 15, 2016, 08:28:30 PM
Quote from: Bully on July 15, 2016, 08:15:01 PM
Quote from: Bully on July 15, 2016, 08:01:42 PM
Have one trade left and am now facing the prospect of a donut, with all of Laird, Bartel & Tucker out. My only real option is to trade Libba for Boyd and open up a DPP link. Zero trades for the rest of the year? Reckon that's a bit risky, might just hold fire and cop my dues.
My trigger finger is incredibly itchy, 1 hour to go.............it also means I can get Rich off the field for the remaining 5 weeks. The team is stronger and there's no telling how bad Laird's injury is (not to mention Bartel).
What do the masses think?
No doubting it'll improve your side but if (heaven forbid) Pendles/Danger/one of your stars goes down and you're left with 600k on the bench whilst everyone around you has trades left to bring in a replacement super premo, you'll be a lot further behind than the 60 points you'll miss out on by copping a donut this week.
Not too sure on Laird but we know Bartel will be back next week and with a decent run home
It makes me feel a bit sick not to have any trades but if Boyd rips out another 120 then those points will be hard to claw back, Rich will have to do if a premo goes down. More nervous about the forwards to be honest but this is the business end and it's now or never. Gulp, I think I've just joined the zero trade club.
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on July 15, 2016, 04:45:48 PM
Just came up with a new plan that I think might work
I currently have Hall and Libba as M8/M9
I trade out Libba, move Bartel to mid bench and bring in Docherty which means I have Bartell and Hall as M8/M9 for the rest of the year, but with DPP I can swing Hall into the forwards to cover there if need be, and then next week or whenever I use my last trade on Lee to a DEF/MID rookie so I can swing Bartel back into the backs and move Collins and Brand to the bench. I can then swing Hall and Bartel across all lines
Thoughts? Reckon I've convinced myself to do it
This trade makes more sense. Jealous you have Doc now, bloody hell he's a gun.
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on July 15, 2016, 04:45:48 PM
Just came up with a new plan that I think might work
I currently have Hall and Libba as M8/M9
I trade out Libba, move Bartel to mid bench and bring in Docherty which means I have Bartell and Hall as M8/M9 for the rest of the year, but with DPP I can swing Hall into the forwards to cover there if need be, and then next week or whenever I use my last trade on Lee to a DEF/MID rookie so I can swing Bartel back into the backs and move Collins and Brand to the bench. I can then swing Hall and Bartel across all lines
Thoughts? Reckon I've convinced myself to do it
I dunno RD.
Leaving yourself with no trades left next week with one more regular season game and 4 finals sounds dicey to me.
You only need one major season ending injury to flower your team up like one of your rucks for example. :-X
And this is coming from a tradeaholic like me who is doing everything in my power to resist using my last 2 trades. LOL! ;D ::)
There's always a risk once you've run out of trades, but considering the year I've had I have managed to complete my team and as I said can now swing Bartel to cover def and mid, Hall to cover mid and fwd and remember I have Sinclair to cover ruc and fwd
All things considered, I reckon that's pretty good. I'm going to hold on the final Lee to def/mid rookie trade for a week or two if possible just to in case I do cop a season ending LTI and if that happens and Bartel is stuck at M9 that's not the end of the world
Happy to have prem coverage over all lines (Well Sinclair isn't prem but you know what I mean!)
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on July 16, 2016, 06:38:20 AM
There's always a risk once you've run out of trades, but considering the year I've had I have managed to complete my team and as I said can now swing Bartel to cover def and mid, Hall to cover mid and fwd and remember I have Sinclair to cover ruc and fwd
All things considered, I reckon that's pretty good. I'm going to hold on the final Lee to def/mid rookie trade for a week or two if possible just to in case I do cop a season ending LTI and if that happens and Bartel is stuck at M9 that's not the end of the world
Happy to have prem coverage over all lines (Well Sinclair isn't prem but you know what I mean!)
Sounds pretty good to me, I think at this stage to cop a donut is far too big a price. With my Boyd trade I did the sums (105 + 20x5..differernce between fielding Boyd over Rich). That's 205 points, so if I cop 1 premo injury in the forward line next week, then I effectively break even, that being the loss of points by fielding Menadue over a 100 point avg.
I didn't want to make this trade this week, was more focused on getting Dahlhaus into the team. But I have never been comfortable with donuts, under any circumstances. Last week I had all 8 defenders playing, this week I lost 3, that's the second time this season that's occurred. The trouble Laird has caused this season has just about been enough to say never again, I certainly won't be starting him next year.
Starting about this time each year the good ship Supercoach starts reminding me of a bunch of little Titanics, with coaches running around their little engine rooms dodging little icebergs to keep their ships afloat. Sooner or later, one by one, they realise there's no hope and it's best to dive overboard and abandon ship, but there's always one coach who is smart enough to have brought a lifeboat. Usually, it's only got room for one passenger and, usually, the coach's time is running out. ;)
Quote from: ronl on July 17, 2016, 02:22:57 PM
Starting about this time each year the good ship Supercoach starts reminding me of a bunch of little Titanics, with coaches running around their little engine rooms dodging little icebergs to keep their ships afloat. Sooner or later, one by one, they realise there's no hope and it's best to dive overboard and abandon ship, but there's always one coach who is smart enough to have brought a lifeboat. Usually, it's only got room for one passenger and, usually, the coach's time is running out. ;)
Hah!
That was gold mate, gave me a good chuckle. ;D
Quote from: ronl on July 17, 2016, 02:22:57 PM
Starting about this time each year the good ship Supercoach starts reminding me of a bunch of little Titanics, with coaches running around their little engine rooms dodging little icebergs to keep their ships afloat. Sooner or later, one by one, they realise there's no hope and it's best to dive overboard and abandon ship, but there's always one coach who is smart enough to have brought a lifeboat. Usually, it's only got room for one passenger and, usually, the coach's time is running out. ;)
Probably very apt in my situation, but to make a decent run at the top one has to take a few risks. Unfortunately I now find myself in an ugly situation and will probably drop out of the top 1000. But this is how I play the game, couldn't care less about league wins, it's all about rankings.
Ive held Bartel till now...
Why did he spud it up last round?
think he will get rested in the last two games at all?
2 trades left & 60k, Is he worth trading to;
Mcdonald(single trade)
or
down/upgrade to Docherty?
Simpson, Shaw, Boyd. Rance, Bartel JJ (s Colloins, D Tucker)
Quote from: reenergised on August 15, 2016, 08:17:02 PM
Ive held Bartel till now...
Why did he spud it up last round?
think he will get rested in the last two games at all?
2 trades left & 60k, Is he worth trading to;
Mcdonald(single trade)
or
down/upgrade to Docherty?
Simpson, Shaw, Boyd. Rance, Bartel JJ (s Colloins, D Tucker)
Maybe downgrade somewhere else and upgrade Collins to prem so you can loop Bartel with upgraded player
His 48 cost me my cash league! 9 points I lost by, even had Gawn as Cap when my opponent had Danger....
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on August 15, 2016, 09:04:35 PM
Quote from: reenergised on August 15, 2016, 08:17:02 PM
Ive held Bartel till now...
Why did he spud it up last round?
think he will get rested in the last two games at all?
2 trades left & 60k, Is he worth trading to;
Mcdonald(single trade)
or
down/upgrade to Docherty?
Simpson, Shaw, Boyd. Rance, Bartel JJ (s Colloins, D Tucker)
Maybe downgrade somewhere else and upgrade Collins to prem so you can loop Bartel with upgraded player
Thanks RD
Can downgrade davis, Pretacca, collins or tucker for the cash
Who would you bring of Docherty or Enright?
i brought him in 3 weeks ago, which allowed me to finally move rich onto the bench in the MID.
rich out scored him every time.
love this game :)
Quote from: reenergised on August 16, 2016, 02:31:59 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on August 15, 2016, 09:04:35 PM
Quote from: reenergised on August 15, 2016, 08:17:02 PM
Ive held Bartel till now...
Why did he spud it up last round?
think he will get rested in the last two games at all?
2 trades left & 60k, Is he worth trading to;
Mcdonald(single trade)
or
down/upgrade to Docherty?
Simpson, Shaw, Boyd. Rance, Bartel JJ (s Colloins, D Tucker)
Maybe downgrade somewhere else and upgrade Collins to prem so you can loop Bartel with upgraded player
Thanks RD
Can downgrade davis, Pretacca, collins or tucker for the cash
Who would you bring of Docherty or Enright?
Well in order to loophole you need a D8 who isn't playing
If Tucker plays, then downgrade him to a nobody who plays late in the round
Get Docherty for sure
trade to pittard? or play rich/collins
my original trade was shiel to rocky. cant do both as cash is tight
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on August 16, 2016, 03:49:23 PM
Quote from: reenergised on August 16, 2016, 02:31:59 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on August 15, 2016, 09:04:35 PM
Quote from: reenergised on August 15, 2016, 08:17:02 PM
Ive held Bartel till now...
Why did he spud it up last round?
think he will get rested in the last two games at all?
2 trades left & 60k, Is he worth trading to;
Mcdonald(single trade)
or
down/upgrade to Docherty?
Simpson, Shaw, Boyd. Rance, Bartel JJ (s Colloins, D Tucker)
Maybe downgrade somewhere else and upgrade Collins to prem so you can loop Bartel with upgraded player
Thanks RD
Can downgrade davis, Pretacca, collins or tucker for the cash
Who would you bring of Docherty or Enright?
Well in order to loophole you need a D8 who isn't playing
If Tucker plays, then downgrade him to a nobody who plays late in the round
Get Docherty for sure
Thanks for the advice RD!
Gone Petra to M Hibberd & Tucker to Docherty
Allows Bartel bench with dpp cover for Def & mid
Bench cover is Collins Def & Davis Mid
Trengrove & Hibberd both nuffs (atm) & play sunday respectively allowing loophole options
;D