Poll
Question:
Is the Adelaide forward line the best in the comp?
Option 1: Could be
votes: 4
Option 2: No
votes: 19
Option 3: Yep!
votes: 2
Option 4: Not quite
votes: 9
Now tat we have Troy Menzel to go with two of the top five goal scorers this year, in a team that scored the third most points per game .....
Suddenly the Adelaide forward line looks like this
CHF
Charlie Cameron - Taylor Walker - Tommy Lynch
FF
Eddie Betts - Josh Jenkins - Troy Menzel
Wowee that starts to look like a winning combo ;) Tell me it isn't the best in the comp?
If only you had got in Big Trav Cloke ;D
Hawks by a mile, mainly due to GUNston
Pfft Eagles forward line showers on that.
Quote from: Jukes on October 23, 2015, 10:56:56 PM
Quote from: GoLions on October 23, 2015, 10:46:51 PM
Hawks by a mile, mainly due to GUNston
Eagles are better
North: Petrie, Waite, Brown, Thomas, Higgins. No stand out player make them work well.
Port is just as good as the Crows
Maybe asking if it's the best forward line in the Crows history, that might be a better question :)
Quote from: PowerBug on October 25, 2015, 01:06:26 PM
Quote from: Jukes on October 23, 2015, 10:56:56 PM
Quote from: GoLions on October 23, 2015, 10:46:51 PM
Hawks by a mile, mainly due to GUNston
Eagles are better
North: Petrie, Waite, Brown, Thomas, Higgins. No stand out player make them work well.
Port is just as good as the Crows
Maybe asking if it's the best forward line in the Crows history, that might be a better question :)
That simply isn't true. Crows averaged 98.8 points per game, compared to Port's 91.3 Crows had 5 guys with over 25 goals this year, compared to Port who had 2. Port had a better defence than the Crows last year, so if their offense was just as good, they might have been the SA team who made the 8 and won a final :)
I'm just going by this past season and yes, Port could improve with Dixon but who says he even gets on the field consistently - he hasn't proven that yet.
Hawthorn and West Coast have a better forward line than us but Adelaide definitely have a very good argument for being number 3.
Pretty sure we have Hogan, soooo.......
Not quite the best tbag ;)
Quote from: Jayman on October 25, 2015, 01:25:43 PM
Quote from: PowerBug on October 25, 2015, 01:06:26 PM
Quote from: Jukes on October 23, 2015, 10:56:56 PM
Quote from: GoLions on October 23, 2015, 10:46:51 PM
Hawks by a mile, mainly due to GUNston
Eagles are better
North: Petrie, Waite, Brown, Thomas, Higgins. No stand out player make them work well.
Port is just as good as the Crows
Maybe asking if it's the best forward line in the Crows history, that might be a better question :)
That simply isn't true. Crows averaged 98.8 points per game, compared to Port's 91.3 Crows had 5 guys with over 25 goals this year, compared to Port who had 2. Port had a better defence than the Crows last year, so if their offense was just as good, they might have been the SA team who made the 8 and won a final :)
I'm just going by this past season and yes, Port could improve with Dixon but who says he even gets on the field consistently - he hasn't proven that yet.
Hawthorn and West Coast have a better forward line than us but Adelaide definitely have a very good argument for being number 3.
well said Jay ;)
Quote from: Jayman on October 25, 2015, 01:25:43 PM
Quote from: PowerBug on October 25, 2015, 01:06:26 PM
Quote from: Jukes on October 23, 2015, 10:56:56 PM
Quote from: GoLions on October 23, 2015, 10:46:51 PM
Hawks by a mile, mainly due to GUNston
Eagles are better
North: Petrie, Waite, Brown, Thomas, Higgins. No stand out player make them work well.
Port is just as good as the Crows
Maybe asking if it's the best forward line in the Crows history, that might be a better question :)
That simply isn't true. Crows averaged 98.8 points per game, compared to Port's 91.3 Crows had 5 guys with over 25 goals this year, compared to Port who had 2. Port had a better defence than the Crows last year, so if their offense was just as good, they might have been the SA team who made the 8 and won a final :)
I'm just going by this past season and yes, Port could improve with Dixon but who says he even gets on the field consistently - he hasn't proven that yet.
Hawthorn and West Coast have a better forward line than us but Adelaide definitely have a very good argument for being number 3.
Not like the forward line tbag posted above has only proven players and doesn't have an unproven player in it ::)
So one goal per game extra? That is not even statistically different. How do you claim that Port's defence was better? By using numbers? Because by using the same numbers you are using the Crows had a better defence. (Again, the difference is not significant)
As for making the 8, you realise the Power were only 6 points behind the Crows on the ladder?
The Crows have a great attack, not doubting that. But for tbag to suggest it's the best in the game is not right at all. The title of the thread actually made me think this was comparing the current lineup to the old crows forward lines, which would be a better comparison imo.
Quote from: PowerBug on October 25, 2015, 02:12:56 PM
Quote from: Jayman on October 25, 2015, 01:25:43 PM
Quote from: PowerBug on October 25, 2015, 01:06:26 PM
Quote from: Jukes on October 23, 2015, 10:56:56 PM
Quote from: GoLions on October 23, 2015, 10:46:51 PM
Hawks by a mile, mainly due to GUNston
Eagles are better
North: Petrie, Waite, Brown, Thomas, Higgins. No stand out player make them work well.
Port is just as good as the Crows
Maybe asking if it's the best forward line in the Crows history, that might be a better question :)
That simply isn't true. Crows averaged 98.8 points per game, compared to Port's 91.3 Crows had 5 guys with over 25 goals this year, compared to Port who had 2. Port had a better defence than the Crows last year, so if their offense was just as good, they might have been the SA team who made the 8 and won a final :)
I'm just going by this past season and yes, Port could improve with Dixon but who says he even gets on the field consistently - he hasn't proven that yet.
Hawthorn and West Coast have a better forward line than us but Adelaide definitely have a very good argument for being number 3.
Not like the forward line tbag posted above has only proven players and doesn't have an unproven player in it ::)
So one goal per game extra? That is not even statistically different. How do you claim that Port's defence was better? By using numbers? Because by using the same numbers you are using the Crows had a better defence. (Again, the difference is not significant)
As for making the 8, you realise the Power were only 6 points behind the Crows on the ladder?
The Crows have a great attack, not doubting that. But for tbag to suggest it's the best in the game is not right at all. The title of the thread actually made me think this was comparing the current lineup to the old crows forward lines, which would be a better comparison imo.
Not saying our forward line next year is proven, I'm saying last year it was better than Port's and nothing that happened over the off-season would make me doubt if it was going to be better again next year. I can claim that Port's defence was better because Adelaide conceded 89.6 points per game, compared to Port's 85.5.
Port were 6 points behind on the ladder (likely would have been 8 if the game hadn't been called off), that's two games. And they didn't win a final like the Crows did. There was a fair gap between the two sides last year, and I think because of that, the Crows' attack deserves to be recognised above Port's until proven otherwise :)
Quote from: Jayman on October 25, 2015, 02:27:29 PM
Not saying our forward line next year is proven I'm saying last year it was better than Port's and nothing that happened over the off-season would make me doubt if it was going to be better again next year. I can claim that Port's defence was better because Adelaide conceded 89.6 points per game, compared to Port's 85.5.
tbag has Troy Menzel in his "Beat forward line in the comp" so clearly he is talking about next year.
I just assumed everyone played 22 games and read off the ladder and saw the Power conceded more points :-[ But still, 4 points is not statistically different over the amount of games played.
Are you guys on drugs? Have you seen Freo's fwd line!? Clearly #1
Quote from: Ricochet on October 25, 2015, 03:04:05 PM
Are you guys on drugs? Have you seen Freo's fwd line!? Clearly #1
LOL
gold Rico ;)
Fwd line needs Trav Cloke. That is all ::)
Quote from: Ricochet on October 25, 2015, 03:04:05 PM
Are you guys on drugs? Have you seen Freo's fwd line!? Clearly #1
Don't you mean Carlton? JJK and the three amigos killing it! And Liam Jones!
Wait just a minute! Geelong have the Tomahawk who clearly feels comfortable hanging his hat on that 1 good season a few years back, surly that puts the cats forward line up there since he is still around?
Quote from: DazBurg on October 25, 2015, 07:57:31 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on October 25, 2015, 03:04:05 PM
Are you guys on drugs? Have you seen Freo's fwd line!? Clearly #1
LOL
gold Rico ;)
well Fyfer might be playing up front. So having the best player in the comp aint too bad.
Walters Balla are the best small forward combo in the comp.
Quote from: Holz on October 26, 2015, 03:30:40 PM
Walters Balla are the best small forward combo in the comp.
Breust/Rioli?
I really think some are missing some basic facts here, sure the cheats at Hawthorn have a nice forward line, West Coast too.
Adelaide however had two in the top five goal kickers, another kicked 40 plus the leading assist maker in Lynchy! To boot, a young mercurial goal freak Menzel and Little Charlie gets better game by game
Sorry if others don't see it the way I do but, crows did have the third highest score for over 22 rounds and most of those players will get better yet!
Really the Adelaide forward six if as good as any, too bad is you cant see it ;)
Quote from: tbagrocks on October 26, 2015, 08:36:10 PM
Sorry if others don't see it the way I do but, crows did have the third highest score for over 22 rounds and most of those players will get better yet!
Really the Adelaide forward six if as good as any, too bad is you cant see it ;)
Exactly tbag, third highest. ;) I think you'll find the majority probably rank the Crows around 3rd. And unfortauntely the Hawks and Eagles forwards will get better as well, as much as we all hope they don't :-\
Quote from: PowerBug on October 26, 2015, 09:20:59 PM
Quote from: tbagrocks on October 26, 2015, 08:36:10 PM
Sorry if others don't see it the way I do but, crows did have the third highest score for over 22 rounds and most of those players will get better yet!
Really the Adelaide forward six if as good as any, too bad is you cant see it ;)
Exactly tbag, third highest. ;) I think you'll find the majority probably rank the Crows around 3rd. And unfortauntely the Hawks and Eagles forwards will get better as well, as much as we all hope they don't :-\
Yeah I know, point I was trying to make is that with Menz, our team with all our forwards aged 25 years or younger, has more to offer ;)
Don't trust me, just sit back and reap our wrath ;)
Quote from: Toga on October 26, 2015, 04:07:18 PM
Quote from: Holz on October 26, 2015, 03:30:40 PM
Walters Balla are the best small forward combo in the comp.
Breust/Rioli?
ill take a fit walters balla
Well tough you can have Lindsay Thomas instead.
Quote from: JBs-Hawks on November 11, 2015, 01:23:23 AM
Well tough you can have Lindsay Thomas instead.
ahh but I have Jed Anderson now :)
Boomer + Ando with Turner to replace Boomer im more then happy with
is boomer ever going to be replaced? lol.
Quote from: Ziplock on November 16, 2015, 12:08:48 AM
is boomer ever going to be replaced? lol.
I reckon Jack Ziebel might retire from old age before he does.
Sorry mate
When a team is bragging about a single line, it means that the rest of the lines are complete shower (and the bragged position is only perceived as being good due to contrast) :P
Hawks are the best forward line and I would not take a second thought in questioning it (why, because they never waste opportunities and execute plays with precision.
I would not even consider the Crows in the top 8. Stats based on last year means nothing - it was last year...
FFS Tbags you were bragging about the forward line being incredible in 2013 because of Lewis Johnston... Remind me what happened to him?? :P
Anyway, not to be cheeky, but how's the midfield going? hahaha
2010 premiers...that was a fwd line. 1990 premiers a ripper fwd line too 8)
Quote from: T Dog on February 04, 2016, 07:59:49 PM
2010 premiers...that was a fwd line. 1990 premiers a ripper fwd line too 8)
Buckley really flowered that team up. The 2010 team was one of the youngest to win a premiership. They could have gone on to win another two until Buckley took over and started driving the talent away (I get the feeling that it generally doesn't work when a player coaches the same players he lead or played alongside - e.g. Voss at Brisbane and Bucks at Collingwood).
Really disappointing because Malthouse did a fantastic job building that side (one could say that he did the complete opposite of his Carlton job haha :P)
Quote from: powersuperkents on February 04, 2016, 05:58:33 PM
Sorry mate
When a team is bragging about a single line, it means that the rest of the lines are complete shower (and the bragged position is only perceived as being good due to contrast) :P
Hawks are the best forward line and I would not take a second thought in questioning it (why, because they never waste opportunities and execute plays with precision.
I would not even consider the Crows in the top 8. Stats based on last year means nothing - it was last year...
FFS Tbags you were bragging about the forward line being incredible in 2013 because of Lewis Johnston... Remind me what happened to him?? :P
Anyway, not to be cheeky, but how's the midfield going? hahaha
Midfield is supreme thanks for asking! Kids stepping up like matt Crouch, CEY, Lyons, Grigg, Atkins, knight all set to have best years to joining the likes of Brad Crouch, Thommo, Douglas, Mackay, VB, Sloaney along with Dean Gore and Seedsman joining the mid rotations!
Yeah, we are fine thanks ;)
Quote from: tbagrocks on February 04, 2016, 10:32:17 PM
Quote from: powersuperkents on February 04, 2016, 05:58:33 PM
Sorry mate
When a team is bragging about a single line, it means that the rest of the lines are complete shower (and the bragged position is only perceived as being good due to contrast) :P
Hawks are the best forward line and I would not take a second thought in questioning it (why, because they never waste opportunities and execute plays with precision.
I would not even consider the Crows in the top 8. Stats based on last year means nothing - it was last year...
FFS Tbags you were bragging about the forward line being incredible in 2013 because of Lewis Johnston... Remind me what happened to him?? :P
Anyway, not to be cheeky, but how's the midfield going? hahaha
Midfield is supreme thanks for asking! Kids stepping up like matt Crouch, CEY, Lyons, Grigg, Atkins, knight all set to have best years to joining the likes of Brad Crouch, Thommo, Douglas, Mackay, VB, Sloaney along with Dean Gore and Seedsman joining the mid rotations!
Yeah, we are fine thanks ;)
It sounds like they are running a day care rather than a midfield at West Lakes :P
Quote from: powersuperkents on February 05, 2016, 12:22:48 PM
Quote from: tbagrocks on February 04, 2016, 10:32:17 PM
Quote from: powersuperkents on February 04, 2016, 05:58:33 PM
Sorry mate
When a team is bragging about a single line, it means that the rest of the lines are complete shower (and the bragged position is only perceived as being good due to contrast) :P
Hawks are the best forward line and I would not take a second thought in questioning it (why, because they never waste opportunities and execute plays with precision.
I would not even consider the Crows in the top 8. Stats based on last year means nothing - it was last year...
FFS Tbags you were bragging about the forward line being incredible in 2013 because of Lewis Johnston... Remind me what happened to him?? :P
Anyway, not to be cheeky, but how's the midfield going? hahaha
Midfield is supreme thanks for asking! Kids stepping up like matt Crouch, CEY, Lyons, Grigg, Atkins, knight all set to have best years to joining the likes of Brad Crouch, Thommo, Douglas, Mackay, VB, Sloaney along with Dean Gore and Seedsman joining the mid rotations!
Yeah, we are fine thanks ;)
It sounds like they are running a day care rather than a midfield at West Lakes :P
I suppose Thommo's the carer?
Quote from: tbagrocks on February 05, 2016, 11:16:22 PM
Quote from: powersuperkents on February 05, 2016, 12:22:48 PM
Quote from: tbagrocks on February 04, 2016, 10:32:17 PM
Quote from: powersuperkents on February 04, 2016, 05:58:33 PM
Sorry mate
When a team is bragging about a single line, it means that the rest of the lines are complete shower (and the bragged position is only perceived as being good due to contrast) :P
Hawks are the best forward line and I would not take a second thought in questioning it (why, because they never waste opportunities and execute plays with precision.
I would not even consider the Crows in the top 8. Stats based on last year means nothing - it was last year...
FFS Tbags you were bragging about the forward line being incredible in 2013 because of Lewis Johnston... Remind me what happened to him?? :P
Anyway, not to be cheeky, but how's the midfield going? hahaha
Midfield is supreme thanks for asking! Kids stepping up like matt Crouch, CEY, Lyons, Grigg, Atkins, knight all set to have best years to joining the likes of Brad Crouch, Thommo, Douglas, Mackay, VB, Sloaney along with Dean Gore and Seedsman joining the mid rotations!
Yeah, we are fine thanks ;)
It sounds like they are running a day care rather than a midfield at West Lakes :P
I suppose Thommo's the carer?
Thommo would be the carer in club. Although the Crows are my second least favourite team (no matter what they do as Port's rivals, Collingwood does worse as the rival of every club :P), I have a lot of respect for Thompson as a player - just a genuine gun who can soldier through anything.
He scared the flower out of me in both Showdown's last year as well (esp. the first where I thought we had it won and he suddenly scored two goals from forward stoppages - one from a near impossible angle - and put the game back into the contest). Tbf, although Danger was the best midfielder at the club, Thompson, Sloane, & Betts were always the players I didn't want to see with the ball (those 3 were the feared players among Power supporters in 2015 showdowns imo).
The Advertiser today: Crows greatest ever forward line
Alastair Lynch on League Teams today: "Probably the most potent forward line in the competition"
Menzel hasn't played, Cameron hasn't played, gets his chance this week with Milera out
Taylor Walker, Jenkins, Betts, Lynch all booting multiple goals each week! Mitchy McGovern comes in and guns, Milera has been terrific, Lyons and Douchie good small crumbers
Maybe some of you want to thing again what I as trying to say months ago? ;)
Let's see if they beat Hawthorn who don't have their best key forward playing :P They do that then I'll reconsider ;) They have been very good through 4 rounds though :)
Quote from: PowerBug on April 21, 2016, 08:33:09 PM
Let's see if they beat Hawthorn who don't have their best key forward playing :P They do that then I'll reconsider ;) They have been very good through 4 rounds though :)
Yes true but, I don't think it will be Hawthorn's forwardline that beats the crows! Could be the crows forward-line that beats the Hawks though :P
Mitchell, Hodge, Lewis, Shiels, Smith and Hill v Sloane, Thompson, Douglas and a bunch of young, run and carry players. Although in saying that, it is more the crows run from defence rather than the midfield that actually fairly well matched it with Sydney last week that will be most telling imo
If Menzel is in your best forward line, it's not the best in the comp.
Quote from: fanTCfool on April 21, 2016, 10:59:11 PM
If Menzel is in your best forward line, it's not the best in the comp.
Probably why he isn't getting a game in the best forward line in the comp then hey? :o However ......
Troy Menzel kicked 26 goals in his second year at Carlton, playing 19 games. Troy also kicked 15,
yes, 15 goals in two Championship games for SA before his knee injury, probably why he slid down to Carlton at #11 in the draft
Yet he is being kept out of the crows forward line because it doesn't need him. That' how good we are ;)
The Crows really deserved that win...
Better team of the night, no weak links spotted whatsoever (the Hawks have a lot of weak links who are compensated by their numerous elite level players)...
Definitely a top 4 contender. Not to take anything away from Mitchell, Hodge, Poppy, Cyril, Stratton, & Burgoyne but, like the last two games they played, poor umpiring played a huge part.
Crows, Saints, & Bulldogs should have all gotten the 4 points.
What was I saying 12 months ago :o ;)
Highest scoring team last year (I called it last April) and the fourth highest scoring team after 5 rounds since year 2000
Consider that JJ, Tex, Eddie, Lynch and the Gov have hardly all been on the park together this year :o