http://www.news.com.au/sport/afl/lance-franklin-to-miss-sydney-afl-finals-series-clash-with-fremantle-due-to-ongoing-mental-health-condition/story-fndv7pj3-1227517769905?from=public_rss
What is going on here?
not much info has been released. hope he is ok
fark
Just what the swans didn't need with Parker and jack already out
And Smith
Quote from: My Chumps on September 08, 2015, 02:14:24 PM
fark
hope he's ok personally but can't help but go ...
wtf?!?!
must be serious for him to sit out a final (finals)?? :-\ :-X :P
Poor bloke had a seizure, and it's not the first time. Damn
http://www.heraldsun.com.au/afl/afl-premiership/lance-franklin-to-miss-sydneys-final-clash-against-fremantle/story-e6frf3e3-1227517767364
Not good news at all, hope all is ok
Swans could be out in straight sets :o
Watching 360 tonight and all the interviews they had with people discussing it, 99% sounds like depression is what he is dealing with
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on September 08, 2015, 09:41:10 PM
Watching 360 tonight and all the interviews they had with people discussing it, 99% sounds like depression is what he is dealing with
I'm a bit confused. I read he'd had a seizure. That's not depression and it's not a mental illness. :o
Wish him well, anyway.
Quote from: Frankfaust1 on September 08, 2015, 10:05:03 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on September 08, 2015, 09:41:10 PM
Watching 360 tonight and all the interviews they had with people discussing it, 99% sounds like depression is what he is dealing with
I'm a bit confused. I read he'd had a seizure. That's not depression and it's not a mental illness. :o
Wish him well, anyway.
Swans have been clear that the seizure and the other issues are not related.
As I see it, will do one of two things.
1. Bring the group together like the bloods spirit is supposed to do. Backs to the wall and now serious underdogs. We have the team to compete if everyone plays like they can and they put Freo off their game
2. The whole thing goes to poo and we get spanked by 100 then fall out in straight sets
Personally I think #1. Doesnt mean we go on to win the game, but would mean we wine game 2.
Quote from: Big Mac on September 08, 2015, 09:13:35 PM
Swans could be out in straight sets :o
Thinking the same thing
Quote from: SydneyRox on September 08, 2015, 11:58:13 PM
As I see it, will do one of two things.
1. Bring the group together like the bloods spirit is supposed to do. Backs to the wall and now serious underdogs. We have the team to compete if everyone plays like they can and they put Freo off their game
2. The whole thing goes to poo and we get spanked by 100 then fall out in straight sets
Personally I think #1. Doesnt mean we go on to win the game, but would mean we wine game 2.
Yeah I agree, freo could be a tough ask but whoever they end up playing the following week I'd back them to get up. They play the winner of Tigers/Norf if the lose, correct? I'd back them there. Then it will just be a case of fitness if they can keep going.
Quote from: Frankfaust1 on September 08, 2015, 10:05:03 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on September 08, 2015, 09:41:10 PM
Watching 360 tonight and all the interviews they had with people discussing it, 99% sounds like depression is what he is dealing with
I'm a bit confused. I read he'd had a seizure. That's not depression and it's not a mental illness. :o
Wish him well, anyway.
Honestly, and I'm really not saying this to be a prick, but I reckon substance abuse... Would flower up your brain enough to cause both seizures and depression. I know rumours have been floating around this for aaaages and have been denied repeatedly, but it's a relatively simple explanation that stacks up... Club is saying it's anxiety combined with a mild form of epilepsy here: http://www.theage.com.au/afl/afl-news/seizure-sparks-crisis-for-lance-franklin-and-swans-20150908-gji2lz.html (Trigger warning: Caro Wilson). But it seems odd that it's an issue now but never was during his time at the hawks. Not impossible at all, but the cumulative effects of recreational drugs also tie up the package... If it looks like a duck...
Quote from: Frankfaust1 on September 08, 2015, 10:05:03 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on September 08, 2015, 09:41:10 PM
Watching 360 tonight and all the interviews they had with people discussing it, 99% sounds like depression is what he is dealing with
I'm a bit confused. I read he'd had a seizure. That's not depression and it's not a mental illness. :o
Wish him well, anyway.
well they can be triggered by anxiety which is a symptom of depression
Yeah, I think some papers are confused and are equating the epilepsy as the mental illness.
All said and done all the best for him but that 10 year contract is looking very shaky for the Swans
Longmire just said Buddy won't play for the rest of the year now
Quote from: Ricochet on September 14, 2015, 02:40:44 PM
Longmire just said Buddy won't play for the rest of the year now
won't say 'stick a fork in us' but it makes things more difficult esp with Sam Reid out too ... :P
honestly, Parker and Jack are the bigger outs ... ::) :(
i'd be confident of us taking the Roos - should be a cracking game - but we're going to have to take every chance and kick straight for goal (say Capt. Obvious) ... but after that ... :-X :P ;)
parker should be back for prelim? smith back this week, just going to need a nank/towers play out of their skin this weekend
Give Abe a gig!
Didn't Luke Parker break his flowering leg? Jesus christ, this guy is tough as nails.
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"Luke Parker is walking past my office and doing cartwheels but he'd have to do a pretty good set of cartwheels the rest of the week to be able to play," Longmire said.
"It's unlikely he'll be able to play, we certainly won't risk him. At the same token he's coming along pretty well."
Quote from: My Chumps on September 15, 2015, 02:02:46 AM
Didn't Luke Parker break his flowering leg? Jesus christ, this guy is tough as nails.
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"Luke Parker is walking past my office and doing cartwheels but he'd have to do a pretty good set of cartwheels the rest of the week to be able to play," Longmire said.
"It's unlikely he'll be able to play, we certainly won't risk him. At the same token he's coming along pretty well."
Yeah, broke his fibula, the smaller bone in your shin region. Or a small lie, depending on your dad-joke capacity. But still not a bad effort.
Quote from: GCSkiwi on September 15, 2015, 07:16:50 AM
Quote from: My Chumps on September 15, 2015, 02:02:46 AM
Didn't Luke Parker break his flowering leg? Jesus christ, this guy is tough as nails.
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"Luke Parker is walking past my office and doing cartwheels but he'd have to do a pretty good set of cartwheels the rest of the week to be able to play," Longmire said.
"It's unlikely he'll be able to play, we certainly won't risk him. At the same token he's coming along pretty well."
Yeah, broke his fibula, the smaller bone in your shin region. Or a small lie, depending on your dad-joke capacity. But still not a bad effort.
pretty sure you can actually have middle portion of the fibula removed and still have a pretty stable leg, it's not actually weight bearing from memory, you only really need the proximal and distal ends :P
Give the bloke a run #cut4parker
Quote from: Ziplock on September 15, 2015, 12:01:11 PM
Quote from: GCSkiwi on September 15, 2015, 07:16:50 AM
Quote from: My Chumps on September 15, 2015, 02:02:46 AM
Didn't Luke Parker break his flowering leg? Jesus christ, this guy is tough as nails.
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"Luke Parker is walking past my office and doing cartwheels but he'd have to do a pretty good set of cartwheels the rest of the week to be able to play," Longmire said.
"It's unlikely he'll be able to play, we certainly won't risk him. At the same token he's coming along pretty well."
Yeah, broke his fibula, the smaller bone in your shin region. Or a small lie, depending on your dad-joke capacity. But still not a bad effort.
pretty sure you can actually have middle portion of the fibula removed and still have a pretty stable leg, it's not actually weight bearing from memory, you only really need the proximal and distal ends :P
Give the bloke a run #cut4parker
surely you dont make him play this week.
If you cant beat North without him then you cant beat Eagles at home with him.
Quote from: Ziplock on September 15, 2015, 12:01:11 PM
Quote from: GCSkiwi on September 15, 2015, 07:16:50 AM
Quote from: My Chumps on September 15, 2015, 02:02:46 AM
Didn't Luke Parker break his flowering leg? Jesus christ, this guy is tough as nails.
Quote
"Luke Parker is walking past my office and doing cartwheels but he'd have to do a pretty good set of cartwheels the rest of the week to be able to play," Longmire said.
"It's unlikely he'll be able to play, we certainly won't risk him. At the same token he's coming along pretty well."
Yeah, broke his fibula, the smaller bone in your shin region. Or a small lie, depending on your dad-joke capacity. But still not a bad effort.
pretty sure you can actually have middle portion of the fibula removed and still have a pretty stable leg, it's not actually weight bearing from memory, you only really need the proximal and distal ends :P
Give the bloke a run #cut4parker
It doesn't carry alot of weight but does support around 15%-20% of a persons weight depending on their stance. Someone other than sportsmen/women may be able to have a portion removed and be fine although im not sure on this tbh. The Fib does help support the ankle and give it stability and you can often break it when rolling an ankle (have done this) but is usually close to the ankle joint . Athletes such as runners can often be back running within a week or two without to much trouble or any pain but for athletes that play a more physical game 4-6 weeks is more the norm ie those that play soccer football rugby and even netball. If Parker was to return early i'd really like to see him where a quality shinguard to protect it more from any impact but he would certainly be taking an increased risk of breaking it again depending on what type of break and where he had it if he was to suffer some kind of ankle injury which in our game there's a high risk of.
Quote from: Holz on September 15, 2015, 12:04:06 PM
Quote from: Ziplock on September 15, 2015, 12:01:11 PM
Quote from: GCSkiwi on September 15, 2015, 07:16:50 AM
Quote from: My Chumps on September 15, 2015, 02:02:46 AM
Didn't Luke Parker break his flowering leg? Jesus christ, this guy is tough as nails.
Quote
"Luke Parker is walking past my office and doing cartwheels but he'd have to do a pretty good set of cartwheels the rest of the week to be able to play," Longmire said.
"It's unlikely he'll be able to play, we certainly won't risk him. At the same token he's coming along pretty well."
Yeah, broke his fibula, the smaller bone in your shin region. Or a small lie, depending on your dad-joke capacity. But still not a bad effort.
pretty sure you can actually have middle portion of the fibula removed and still have a pretty stable leg, it's not actually weight bearing from memory, you only really need the proximal and distal ends :P
Give the bloke a run #cut4parker
surely you dont make him play this week.
If you cant beat North without him then you cant beat Eagles at home with him.
Fair enough statement.
Yeah Grazz, I wasn't really sure about it's impact on athletes, I didn't have a chance to look it up.
I wouldn't play him. If the swans get past north and need him then make the call.
Quote from: Ziplock on September 15, 2015, 05:06:12 PM
Quote from: Holz on September 15, 2015, 12:04:06 PM
Quote from: Ziplock on September 15, 2015, 12:01:11 PM
Quote from: GCSkiwi on September 15, 2015, 07:16:50 AM
Quote from: My Chumps on September 15, 2015, 02:02:46 AM
Didn't Luke Parker break his flowering leg? Jesus christ, this guy is tough as nails.
Quote
"Luke Parker is walking past my office and doing cartwheels but he'd have to do a pretty good set of cartwheels the rest of the week to be able to play," Longmire said.
"It's unlikely he'll be able to play, we certainly won't risk him. At the same token he's coming along pretty well."
Yeah, broke his fibula, the smaller bone in your shin region. Or a small lie, depending on your dad-joke capacity. But still not a bad effort.
pretty sure you can actually have middle portion of the fibula removed and still have a pretty stable leg, it's not actually weight bearing from memory, you only really need the proximal and distal ends :P
Give the bloke a run #cut4parker
surely you dont make him play this week.
If you cant beat North without him then you cant beat Eagles at home with him.
Fair enough statement.
Yeah Grazz, I wasn't really sure about it's impact on athletes, I didn't have a chance to look it up.
I wouldn't play him. If the swans get past north and need him then make the call.
Was chatting with my physio about it and he gave me the low down, even though ive broken it by rolling an ankle im no expert on it but remembered a bit of info i was told. It's a pretty common break for sporting types.
Yeh fibula is flower all really. Quite a few players have only missed 2-4 weeks
Huh, didn't know all that. Cheers gents.
I'm pretty confident of getting past North this weekend to be honest so I'd definitely be saving him for next week.
Tom harley said Jack is a chance to come back this week, Parker none, but they were both running today, so surely if we get past north, Parker comes in.
Just saw a rumour pop up (a facebook AFL update page) that said Buddy was considering retirement after the grand final?!?!? :o Anyone heard these rumours from a reputable source? Poor guy, but if this issue he has is affecting him so much, there are more important things in life that footy, especially with the tragedies we've had this year. :(
http://news.betswaps.com/2015/10/01/the-end-for-lance-buddy-franklin/ (http://news.betswaps.com/2015/10/01/the-end-for-lance-buddy-franklin/)
Quote from: jvalles69 on October 01, 2015, 05:41:58 PM
Just saw a rumour pop up (a facebook AFL update page) that said Buddy was considering retirement after the grand final?!?!? :o Anyone heard these rumours from a reputable source? Poor guy, but if this issue he has is affecting him so much, there are more important things in life that footy, especially with the tragedies we've had this year. :(
http://news.betswaps.com/2015/10/01/the-end-for-lance-buddy-franklin/ (http://news.betswaps.com/2015/10/01/the-end-for-lance-buddy-franklin/)
yep heard the rumour up here about 2-3 weeks ago. He will wait till next year and then decide
I certainly hope not, he still has so much to offer to football
Quote from: Capper on October 01, 2015, 06:42:52 PM
Quote from: jvalles69 on October 01, 2015, 05:41:58 PM
Just saw a rumour pop up (a facebook AFL update page) that said Buddy was considering retirement after the grand final?!?!? :o Anyone heard these rumours from a reputable source? Poor guy, but if this issue he has is affecting him so much, there are more important things in life that footy, especially with the tragedies we've had this year. :(
http://news.betswaps.com/2015/10/01/the-end-for-lance-buddy-franklin/ (http://news.betswaps.com/2015/10/01/the-end-for-lance-buddy-franklin/)
yep heard the rumour up here about 2-3 weeks ago. He will wait till next year and then decide
Is it by choice do you think, of by force due to other off field issues? Lot's of people putting out some possibly ill informed comments on social media is the reason I'm asking...
I know it's only a rumour, and I don't give it a lot of weight, but if this was to happen, does it put his trade scenario in murky waters?
Quote from: Dudge on October 01, 2015, 08:47:39 PM
I know it's only a rumour, and I don't give it a lot of weight, but if this was to happen, does it put his trade scenario in murky waters?
Sydney will be screwed as Buddy will be under their salary cap for 7 more years, they were warned about offering such a long term contract.
Quote from: jvalles69 on October 01, 2015, 09:00:58 PM
Quote from: Dudge on October 01, 2015, 08:47:39 PM
I know it's only a rumour, and I don't give it a lot of weight, but if this was to happen, does it put his trade scenario in murky waters?
Sydney will be screwed as Buddy will be under their salary cap for 7 more years, they were warned about offering such a long term contract.
Yeah, they knew what they were doing that and the risks.
Quote from: Ziplock on October 01, 2015, 09:52:45 PM
Quote from: jvalles69 on October 01, 2015, 09:00:58 PM
Quote from: Dudge on October 01, 2015, 08:47:39 PM
I know it's only a rumour, and I don't give it a lot of weight, but if this was to happen, does it put his trade scenario in murky waters?
Sydney will be screwed as Buddy will be under their salary cap for 7 more years, they were warned about offering such a long term contract.
Yeah, they knew what they were doing that and the risks.
if buddy pulls the pin of mental health issues, i cant see the afl enforcing that part of the deal
buddy would get a payout and we move on, must admit the whole where there is smoke there is fire worries me
Quote from: SydneyRox on October 01, 2015, 10:12:24 PM
Quote from: Ziplock on October 01, 2015, 09:52:45 PM
Quote from: jvalles69 on October 01, 2015, 09:00:58 PM
Quote from: Dudge on October 01, 2015, 08:47:39 PM
I know it's only a rumour, and I don't give it a lot of weight, but if this was to happen, does it put his trade scenario in murky waters?
Sydney will be screwed as Buddy will be under their salary cap for 7 more years, they were warned about offering such a long term contract.
Yeah, they knew what they were doing that and the risks.
if buddy pulls the pin of mental health issues, i cant see the afl enforcing that part of the deal
buddy would get a payout and we move on, must admit the whole where there is smoke there is fire worries me
Quote from: SydneyRox on October 01, 2015, 10:12:24 PM
Quote from: Ziplock on October 01, 2015, 09:52:45 PM
Quote from: jvalles69 on October 01, 2015, 09:00:58 PM
Quote from: Dudge on October 01, 2015, 08:47:39 PM
I know it's only a rumour, and I don't give it a lot of weight, but if this was to happen, does it put his trade scenario in murky waters?
Sydney will be screwed as Buddy will be under their salary cap for 7 more years, they were warned about offering such a long term contract.
Yeah, they knew what they were doing that and the risks.
if buddy pulls the pin of mental health issues, i cant see the afl enforcing that part of the deal
buddy would get a payout and we move on, must admit the whole where there is smoke there is fire worries me
Can't find it now, but AFL already have said that they won't get any compensation I think.
Quote from: jvalles69 on October 01, 2015, 10:28:14 PM
Quote from: SydneyRox on October 01, 2015, 10:12:24 PM
Quote from: Ziplock on October 01, 2015, 09:52:45 PM
Quote from: jvalles69 on October 01, 2015, 09:00:58 PM
Quote from: Dudge on October 01, 2015, 08:47:39 PM
I know it's only a rumour, and I don't give it a lot of weight, but if this was to happen, does it put his trade scenario in murky waters?
Sydney will be screwed as Buddy will be under their salary cap for 7 more years, they were warned about offering such a long term contract.
Yeah, they knew what they were doing that and the risks.
if buddy pulls the pin of mental health issues, i cant see the afl enforcing that part of the deal
buddy would get a payout and we move on, must admit the whole where there is smoke there is fire worries me
Can't find it now, but AFL already have said that they won't get any compensation I think.
yeah, but that was based on buddy seeing out 4-5 years and retiring from injury etc not mental health after less than 2years
Quote from: Dudge on October 01, 2015, 10:26:26 PM
Quote from: SydneyRox on October 01, 2015, 10:12:24 PM
Quote from: Ziplock on October 01, 2015, 09:52:45 PM
Quote from: jvalles69 on October 01, 2015, 09:00:58 PM
Quote from: Dudge on October 01, 2015, 08:47:39 PM
I know it's only a rumour, and I don't give it a lot of weight, but if this was to happen, does it put his trade scenario in murky waters?
Sydney will be screwed as Buddy will be under their salary cap for 7 more years, they were warned about offering such a long term contract.
Yeah, they knew what they were doing that and the risks.
if buddy pulls the pin of mental health issues, i cant see the afl enforcing that part of the deal
buddy would get a payout and we move on, must admit the whole where there is smoke there is fire worries me
That's what I;m alluding to SR, for a big power forward to sign a 9 year deal, and after 2/3 years this happens, makes you wonder. It put most, if not all of the other clubs out of reach. Really sad for Bud if it was to happen, but then again he has Jesinta ;D
i feel sorry for Buddy but don't feel sorry for Swans a 10 year deal is dumb
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on October 01, 2015, 11:31:54 PM
i feel sorry for Buddy but don't feel sorry for Swans a 10 year deal is dumb
how is it dumb? The Lions did one and that was ok
Quote from: Capper on October 02, 2015, 01:11:36 PM
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on October 01, 2015, 11:31:54 PM
i feel sorry for Buddy but don't feel sorry for Swans a 10 year deal is dumb
how is it dumb? The Lions did one and that was ok
how old was he 25? u cant see how signing a 25 year old to a 10 year deal is dumb?
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2015-10-06/swans-confident-buddy-will-be-back-for-the-preseason (http://www.afl.com.au/news/2015-10-06/swans-confident-buddy-will-be-back-for-the-preseason)
QuoteSYDNEY SWANS star Lance Franklin could be ready to resume pre-season training with the club in December, according to coach John Longmire.
Franklin kicked 47 goals from 17 games in 2015, but failed to play in the Swans' two finals after stepping away from the game after round 23 to seek treatment for an ongoing mental health issue.
Some good news :)
Quote from: nrich102 on October 06, 2015, 08:11:23 PM
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2015-10-06/swans-confident-buddy-will-be-back-for-the-preseason (http://www.afl.com.au/news/2015-10-06/swans-confident-buddy-will-be-back-for-the-preseason)
QuoteSYDNEY SWANS star Lance Franklin could be ready to resume pre-season training with the club in December, according to coach John Longmire.
Franklin kicked 47 goals from 17 games in 2015, but failed to play in the Swans' two finals after stepping away from the game after round 23 to seek treatment for an ongoing mental health issue.
Some good news :)
yeah i heard that at the Bob Skilton medal but will have to wait and see
This journo reported that he has retired?!!
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ
Thoughts? Legit?!
Quote from: Spite on October 14, 2015, 02:40:03 PM
This journo reported that he has retired?!!
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ
Thoughts? Legit?!
maybe change the web address so it doesnt say youtube
www.afl.com.au/Travis-Cloke-retires (https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ)
Quote from: Capper on October 14, 2015, 02:51:17 PM
Quote from: Spite on October 14, 2015, 02:40:03 PM
This journo reported that he has retired?!!
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ
Thoughts? Legit?!
maybe change the web address so it doesnt say youtube
www.afl.com.au/Travis-Cloke-retires (https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ)
Big Trav will Arrive big time next year