Already cracked the showers with this year so what is there to look forward to in 2015?
Cheap players, rookies, positional changes. Who are you excited about?
For me it's the midfield. How do we fit them all in?
-Fyfe has become the new Ablett
-Ablett and Rocky will be much Cheaper than they are actually worth
-Proven guns like Selwood and Watson will be tempting at an attractive price
-Libba, Crouch, And Omeara will be cheap after missing the season
Then there's 2 players at the Dees that will be under 200k and will play, Petracca and Trengove
Already Excited to get stuck into that midfield.
I'm not good at predicting positional changes but the last few weeks Griffen has played in the backline and has not only improved his scoring but would also just about be a lock if he gets DPP
Who else are you guys excited about?
Not excited about the midfield at all, sorry to go against you mate.
Fyfe, Ablett, Libba, Crouch everyone will have. Then if O'Meara can get fit everyone will have him too.
The POD's will come through all the other lines now.
Dusty may lose FWD eligibility as may Danger/Crisp/Adams etc
Hodge to lose DEF eligibility too, maybe even Newnes?? McGovern will lose FWD eligibility too
Just off the top of my head tho
You're probably right but there is also the Likes of Selwood, Watson, Rocky and Sloane who will be well underpriced that won't be as popular.
Quote from: quinny88 on July 08, 2015, 06:46:58 PM
Already cracked the showers with this year so what is there to look forward to in 2015?
I wish I could be living in the past :P
In 201
6 I'll be running the redrock combo with Gaz, JOM and Fyfe in the mids, maybe Libba as well. I already have a smoky lined up, I just hope he keeps his Fwd eligibility next year.
Thats all I have planned so far.
Will mummy be cheaper missing the last half of the year??
#SayNoToJObe
No one atm
Ablett, Pendles, Fyfe, Rocky, Sloane rookies
Goldy, Mummy (rookie)
Gray, Petrecca
Who will change positions? I reckon Leuy and Martin will both add forward, and Adcock will become a forward as well.
Malceski should be well undervalued aswell.
Will McVeigh get DPP??
Will Griffen get DPP??
Quote from: LordSneeze on July 10, 2015, 08:57:15 PM
Malceski should be well undervalued aswell.
Still wont go near him
Mundy and M. Boyd a chance for DPP?
Kade kolodjashnij :)
Quote from: Big Mac on July 11, 2015, 10:23:54 AM
Mundy and M. Boyd a chance for DPP?
Boyd yes
Mundy no
Quote from: Capper on July 10, 2015, 10:43:28 PM
Will McVeigh get DPP??
Will Griffen get DPP??
McVeigh may get it back, Griffin is difficult to pick as he played the first half of the year in the forward half predominetly and second half in back half.
tom nicholls breakout year!
Quote from: nrich102 on July 09, 2015, 07:51:22 PM
Quote from: quinny88 on July 08, 2015, 06:46:58 PM
Already cracked the showers with this year so what is there to look forward to in 2015?
I wish I could be living in the past :P
In 2016 I'll be running the redrock combo with Gaz, JOM and Fyfe in the mids, maybe Libba as well. I already have a smoky lined up, I just hope he keeps his Fwd eligibility next year.
Thats all I have planned so far.
I know dude, would suck if Lewis Taylor lost his fwd status, looks a jet and I've been eyeing him off too ;)
Quote from: PowerBug on July 13, 2015, 01:16:30 PM
Quote from: nrich102 on July 09, 2015, 07:51:22 PM
Quote from: quinny88 on July 08, 2015, 06:46:58 PM
Already cracked the showers with this year so what is there to look forward to in 2015?
I wish I could be living in the past :P
In 2016 I'll be running the redrock combo with Gaz, JOM and Fyfe in the mids, maybe Libba as well. I already have a smoky lined up, I just hope he keeps his Fwd eligibility next year.
Thats all I have planned so far.
I know dude, would suck if Lewis Taylor lost his fwd status, looks a jet and I've been eyeing him off too ;)
;) :-X
Can Add Hanley to the list of players that will be discounted next year
scooter a lock for me if he has a full pre season
What is Mitch Duncan likely to be priced at? Any ideas?
LLLLLLLLLLLIBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
Shaw NDS
Ablett Liberatore Crouch Rocky Sloane
Goldy NicNat
Martin Petrecca
Quote from: Holz on July 16, 2015, 10:56:29 AM
Shaw NDS
Ablett Liberatore Crouch Rocky Sloane
Goldy NicNat
Martin Petrecca
That dustin martin or stefan?
Quote from: The_Captain on July 16, 2015, 12:50:12 PM
Quote from: Holz on July 16, 2015, 10:56:29 AM
Shaw NDS
Ablett Liberatore Crouch Rocky Sloane
Goldy NicNat
Martin Petrecca
That dustin martin or stefan?
Dustin mate
Quote from: The_Captain on July 16, 2015, 12:50:12 PM
Quote from: Holz on July 16, 2015, 10:56:29 AM
Shaw NDS
Ablett Liberatore Crouch Rocky Sloane
Goldy NicNat
Martin Petrecca
That dustin martin or stefan?
The much better one.
i.e Dustin
Is Libba really going to be that cheap? Watson will be super cheap
These are the LTI's I'll be looking at next year, will be interesting to see what their prices will be (3rd column is current price)
I'm aware a few might end up playing too many games to get a discount
If Stanley gets DPP Fwd/Ruc he will be a lock, will probably look at him even if he is just ruck.
Jaensch ADE 435000
Crouch ADE 508200
Close BRS 211900
Thomas CAR 357600
Watson ESS 439500
Dawson FRE 247300
Stanley GEE 360600
O'Meara GC 525000
Prestia GC 505100
Mohr GWS 389000
Petracca MEL 217300
Trengove MEL 272800
Polec PTA 379200
Johnson SYD 123900
McGlynn SYD 503000
Brown WCE 234000
MacKenzie WCE 403900
Liberatore WB 593200
My 2016 Midfield:
Considering the value on offer, a 5 premium midfield will be the way to go.
I want 3 top 5 players to begin with, so:
Ablett/Fyfe - every team needs a captain, who will depend on byes most likely.
Pendles - picks himself, durable and capable of 120+, won't go any lower than priced to average.
Rockliff - his days of POD will be over.
Then I want an underpriced top 10, 110+ mid:
Sloane/Sidebottom/Shiel - my preferences in that order, byes will play a factor.
There's only room in my team for 1 underpriced not-quite-premium at M5:
Crouch/Libba - if Crouch can get his body right, otherwise a fit and healthy Libba takes his place.
Fyfe won't be value. So won't be getting him. Will be getting Ablett, rocky, Libba, Shiel, crouch, Sloane. Mids is where the points are at..,
My other comments:
- Any other year, I'd be looking at Neale, Heppell and Wines to go 110+, but with so many injury affected scores there are cheaper, more proven options available, so why hope for a breakout. Kinda takes the fun out of it, doesn't it? Also, why take risks on value from the start, when if the rate of injuries continues, there will be plenty of value pick-ups below $500k mid-year anyway.
- Do people really think O'Meara will walk out and smash out a 105-110 average after a year out of the game?
- If Prestia gets a 10% discount he'll be heavily on my radar, as would D Swallow. And all-Suns midfield of Ablett, Prestia, Swallow, O'Meara, Bennell almost wouldn't be the worst option, hah!
- Again, there's so much value, I'm not even going to bother hoping any of Gibbs, Watson, Selwood, Hanley or Greene come good. Again, any other year they'd be serious options. Again, less risk also means less thrill, less reward, and less fun :(
Quote from: H1bb3i2d on July 20, 2015, 08:34:35 PM
My other comments:
- Any other year, I'd be looking at Neale, Heppell and Wines to go 110+, but with so many injury affected scores there are cheaper, more proven options available, so why hope for a breakout. Kinda takes the fun out of it, doesn't it? Also, why take risks on value from the start, when if the rate of injuries continues, there will be plenty of value pick-ups below $500k mid-year anyway.
- Do people really think O'Meara will walk out and smash out a 105-110 average after a year out of the game?
- If Prestia gets a 10% discount he'll be heavily on my radar, as would D Swallow. And all-Suns midfield of Ablett, Prestia, Swallow, O'Meara, Bennell almost wouldn't be the worst option, hah!
- Again, there's so much value, I'm not even going to bother hoping any of Gibbs, Watson, Selwood, Hanley or Greene come good. Again, any other year they'd be serious options. Again, less risk also means less thrill, less reward, and less fun :(
Omeara is that good I reckon he will! Haha. Prestia also a good pick. But cod Ablett was out he got decent scores. So if Ablett is in no Prestia for me. If omeara is about 350k he becomes a lock I reckon!
Quote from: H1bb3i2d on July 20, 2015, 08:34:35 PM
My other comments:
- Any other year, I'd be looking at Neale, Heppell and Wines to go 110+, but with so many injury affected scores there are cheaper, more proven options available, so why hope for a breakout. Kinda takes the fun out of it, doesn't it? Also, why take risks on value from the start, when if the rate of injuries continues, there will be plenty of value pick-ups below $500k mid-year anyway.
- Do people really think O'Meara will walk out and smash out a 105-110 average after a year out of the game?
- If Prestia gets a 10% discount he'll be heavily on my radar, as would D Swallow. And all-Suns midfield of Ablett, Prestia, Swallow, O'Meara, Bennell almost wouldn't be the worst option, hah!
- Again, there's so much value, I'm not even going to bother hoping any of Gibbs, Watson, Selwood, Hanley or Greene come good. Again, any other year they'd be serious options. Again, less risk also means less thrill, less reward, and less fun :(
That's when all the other lines become so much more important, don't they? Will you pick a 110 avg priced Hodge or a 70 avg priced Smith instead and look to increase points elsewhere? Will you pick up Eric Mackenzie, Ben Reid, Andrew Walker, or maybe even Macaffer/Trengove at under $200k and risk the gauntlet of them getting injured? I think it's going to be a very interesting year.
DEF: Shaw
MID: Ablett, Pendlebury, Sidebottom, Sloane, Crouch, Libba, O'Meara, Trengove
RUC: Goldy
FWD: Gray, Martin, Petracca
Interesting thread this one, will visit it a bit over the off season but to be honest im still to depressed over 2015 to even look at 2016. Seasons like this zap all confidence ive got zero at the minute.
;)
Luke Parker hasn't exploded this year as expected but must be very close. Harley Bennell if settles down could be anything ( was a pain to have in my team this year ). Docherty of Carlton could be a gem in defence and I see Jack Riewoldt playing more of a Richo role ( on the wing. ) may very well bare watching. If puts in a full pre season Rioli at any price. And finally Nick Vlaustin at the Tiges is near breakout. Cheers guys and gals. ::)
I feel your depression Grazz, very, very deeply.
I'm not spending a frickin cent on backs next year.
Seedsman has copped the council worker vest a lot this season so he'll be cheap next year.
Jelwood
Quote from: _wato on August 01, 2015, 11:41:41 PM
Jelwood
Watch him send his price skywards over these last lot of games. :(
Quote from: Grazz on August 01, 2015, 11:58:08 PM
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Jelwood
Watch him send his price skywards over these last lot of games. :(
If he averages 130 he will be around 640K ::)
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Jelwood
Watch him send his price skywards over these last lot of games. :(
If he averages 130 he will be around 640K ::)
Lol your quick mate i was just trying to do the maths. ;)
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Jelwood
Watch him send his price skywards over these last lot of games. :(
If he averages 130 he will be around 640K ::)
Nah just good timing, was having a play with Too Serious to see if I could trade Cripps to Danger in a few weeks :)
Lol your quick mate i was just trying to do the maths. ;)
lol every year Jelwood tricks ppl like this get on him after the bye guys
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Quote from: _wato on August 01, 2015, 11:41:41 PM
Jelwood
Watch him send his price skywards over these last lot of games. :(
If he averages 130 he will be around 640K ::)
Nah just good timing, was having a play with Too Serious to see if I could trade Cripps to Danger in a few weeks :)
Lol your quick mate i was just trying to do the maths. ;)
Ah ok, i was still an hour away from working it out anyway haha. :-\
If he averages 130 from here on, he'll be priced at a 110 average next year. Don't think he'll do that though, more like a 110-120 average. That would give him a price range of a 105-108 average at the end of the year which I think (with all their players fit) is 5-10 points per game less than what he should be.
He'd be priced between $560-600k with those averages (105-108) if so at the start of next year, which would be an absolute steal!!!
Wines popped a shoulder today. Hopefully it's not too bad for him, but shoulders don't tend to be short term especially when they pop right through like Ollie's did. If he doesn't get back before finals he'll be priced at 97ish next year. Guns/Rooks looking dead next year.
Quote from: honza on August 02, 2015, 02:14:45 PM
Wines popped a shoulder today. Hopefully it's not too bad for him, but shoulders don't tend to be short term especially when they pop right through like Ollie's did. If he doesn't get back before finals he'll be priced at 97ish next year. Guns/Rooks looking dead next year.
At this rate it will be Guns n Rook, singular :P
So far my team for next year is looking like:
D- Shaw, Mitch Brown (ex-AFL)
M- Fyfe, Ablett, Rockliff, Sloane, Liberatore,
R- Goldstein, Nic Nat
F- Gray, Bontempelli
Genuine POD Midfielder Prospect
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Nick GRAHAM Was let out of the Green Vest for the first time this year, and flourished.
Round 9: vs Sydney Swans, First Time out of the Vest, Managed Only 62 Points
Round 10: vs Adelaide Crows, Scored 79 Points From Only 88 Minutes on the Ground.
Between Round 10 & 11: Chris JUDD retires, Job Security increased.
Round 11: Bye
Round 12: vs Port Adelaide, First Ton, 101 Points Playing in the Guts, and Hit the Scoreboard
Round 13: vs GCS, Saw Live & was Impressed, 103 Points
Round 14: vs Western Bulldogs, 106 Points despite a Foot Injury
Nick is now set to miss the remainder of the year with a re-aggravated Foot Issue.
Generally, this will not be enough evidence to persuade many, but with Patrick CRIPPS and Marc MURPHY getting the majority of attention from opposition, Nick will be able to go about his business next year, and will cement himself to have been a mid-priced lock from the start of the season, set to average above 90. However, he is a must watch throughout the pre-season, as, like many other's recovering from injury, he may not be able to return to his pre-injury best.
So Wines' season is officially over, which means he's almost secured a spot in my team already, priced to average just 97.31 in 2016.
Yep Wines a certain lock
Ablett, Pendlebury, Sidey, Sloane, Wines, Libba
Loving it already!!
Quote from: _wato on August 07, 2015, 04:42:40 PM
Yep Wines a certain lock
Ablett, Pendlebury, Sidey, Sloane, Wines, Libba
Loving it already!!
Rocky aswell
Quote from: LordSneeze on August 07, 2015, 10:27:25 PM
Quote from: _wato on August 07, 2015, 04:42:40 PM
Yep Wines a certain lock
Ablett, Pendlebury, Sidey, Sloane, Wines, Libba
Loving it already!!
Rocky aswell
Ooooops, knew there was someone I had forgotten!!
Ablett, Pendlebury, Rockliff, Sidey, Libba, Sloane/Wines
My midfield looking like:
Fyfe
Ablett
Sloane
Wines
Rockliff
B. Crouch
Ablet, Rocky, Crouch and Libba will certainly be in my mids and Mummy in the rucks
Shaw,
GAJ, Pendles, Rockliff, Crouch, Libba, JOM...
Goldy, Nic Nat
Gray, Martin
Personally, I'm not touching Crouch next year. Has had more surgery to assist his foot recovery.
http://www.afc.com.au/news/2015-08-15/more-surgery-for-crouch
Midfielder Brad Crouch has undergone surgery to assist with his recovery from a foot injury.
The procedure went well and he will now continue his rehabilitation.
Crouch, who initially injured his foot in a NAB Challenge match, has not played since June.
The 21-year-old was runner-up in the AFL's Rising Star award in 2013 and has played 25 games for Adelaide.
Quote from: honza on August 01, 2015, 04:13:49 PM
Seedsman has copped the council worker vest a lot this season so he'll be cheap next year.
Good value, though it depends on which club he's playing for. Can't see him staying at the Pies.
Quote from: TomK on August 16, 2015, 12:31:18 AM
Personally, I'm not touching Crouch next year. Has had more surgery to assist his foot recovery.
http://www.afc.com.au/news/2015-08-15/more-surgery-for-crouch
Midfielder Brad Crouch has undergone surgery to assist with his recovery from a foot injury.
The procedure went well and he will now continue his rehabilitation.
Crouch, who initially injured his foot in a NAB Challenge match, has not played since June.
The 21-year-old was runner-up in the AFL's Rising Star award in 2013 and has played 25 games for Adelaide.
Has all off season to get right. Big watch in NAB next year. Proven gun and ball magnet. Can see him becoming a SC elite if he is right. With a discount he is a stepping stone to a gun mid at the very least.
Might be one of the most picked players next year. I can't see myself leaving him out if he is up and running R1 next year.
As much as he was my worst pick of the year (well at least I got to trade him out early rather than have him flower along all season like Lumumba), would people consider a dirt cheap Daniel Wells?
Quote from: H1bb3i2d on August 16, 2015, 08:18:10 PM
As much as he was my worst pick of the year (well at least I got to trade him out early rather than have him flower along all season like Lumumba), would people consider a dirt cheap Daniel Wells?
kept him too long this year. Will wait and see if he holds up before I would take him next year
Seedsman when he comes to Carlton along with Aish will both be good value ;)
Quote from: Money Shot on August 23, 2015, 08:57:34 AM
Seedsman when he comes to Carlton along with Aish will both be good value ;)
Works out ok for us when you give up every draft pick for the next two years for Seedy ;)
Quote from: enzedder on August 16, 2015, 12:52:25 PM
Quote from: TomK on August 16, 2015, 12:31:18 AM
Personally, I'm not touching Crouch next year. Has had more surgery to assist his foot recovery.
http://www.afc.com.au/news/2015-08-15/more-surgery-for-crouch
Midfielder Brad Crouch has undergone surgery to assist with his recovery from a foot injury.
The procedure went well and he will now continue his rehabilitation.
Crouch, who initially injured his foot in a NAB Challenge match, has not played since June.
The 21-year-old was runner-up in the AFL's Rising Star award in 2013 and has played 25 games for Adelaide.
Has all off season to get right. Big watch in NAB next year. Proven gun and ball magnet. Can see him becoming a SC elite if he is right. With a discount he is a stepping stone to a gun mid at the very least.
Might be one of the most picked players next year. I can't see myself leaving him out if he is up and running R1 next year.
I think proven gun Might be taking it a bit far.
Quote from: blue on August 24, 2015, 12:36:21 PM
Quote from: enzedder on August 16, 2015, 12:52:25 PM
Quote from: TomK on August 16, 2015, 12:31:18 AM
Personally, I'm not touching Crouch next year. Has had more surgery to assist his foot recovery.
http://www.afc.com.au/news/2015-08-15/more-surgery-for-crouch
Midfielder Brad Crouch has undergone surgery to assist with his recovery from a foot injury.
The procedure went well and he will now continue his rehabilitation.
Crouch, who initially injured his foot in a NAB Challenge match, has not played since June.
The 21-year-old was runner-up in the AFL's Rising Star award in 2013 and has played 25 games for Adelaide.
Has all off season to get right. Big watch in NAB next year. Proven gun and ball magnet. Can see him becoming a SC elite if he is right. With a discount he is a stepping stone to a gun mid at the very least.
Might be one of the most picked players next year. I can't see myself leaving him out if he is up and running R1 next year.
I think proven gun Might be taking it a bit far.
For someone that's only played 25 games he's proven that he score like a gun. Will be a gun.
Semantics.
2013 SC scores...debut year... 85, 50, 83, 46, 114, 76, 93, 77, 100, 101, 104, 87, 82, 122
2014 SC scores... 43subbed, 72, 98, 122, 107, 94, 121, 117, 91, 109, 66
Quote from: enzedder on August 24, 2015, 06:58:27 PM
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Quote from: enzedder on August 16, 2015, 12:52:25 PM
Quote from: TomK on August 16, 2015, 12:31:18 AM
Personally, I'm not touching Crouch next year. Has had more surgery to assist his foot recovery.
http://www.afc.com.au/news/2015-08-15/more-surgery-for-crouch
Midfielder Brad Crouch has undergone surgery to assist with his recovery from a foot injury.
The procedure went well and he will now continue his rehabilitation.
Crouch, who initially injured his foot in a NAB Challenge match, has not played since June.
The 21-year-old was runner-up in the AFL's Rising Star award in 2013 and has played 25 games for Adelaide.
Has all off season to get right. Big watch in NAB next year. Proven gun and ball magnet. Can see him becoming a SC elite if he is right. With a discount he is a stepping stone to a gun mid at the very least.
Might be one of the most picked players next year. I can't see myself leaving him out if he is up and running R1 next year.
I think proven gun Might be taking it a bit far.
For someone that's only played 25 games he's proven that he score like a gun. Will be a gun.
Semantics.
2013 SC scores...debut year... 85, 50, 83, 46, 114, 76, 93, 77, 100, 101, 104, 87, 82, 122
2014 SC scores... 43subbed, 72, 98, 122, 107, 94, 121, 117, 91, 109, 66
If Danger goes lock him in.
:-\
Just curious, but what are peoples thoughts on Treloar when he goes to Richmond, how do you think he'll score ?? ??
Future O'Meara Owners:
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2015-08-28/theres-always-some-doubt-suns-worried-about-omeara
Think KK will be a lock in defence too.
Quote from: enzedder on August 29, 2015, 12:28:05 PM
Think KK will be a lock in defence too.
I'm leaning more towards Jake, cheap and has showed signs.
100% DE last night was impressive for one.
Quote from: enzedder on August 29, 2015, 12:28:05 PM
Think KK will be a lock in defence too.
Another solid score tonight.
Def: Boyd, Smith, Birchall, Z (if someone plays on), Mackenzie
Mid: Master, Pendlebury, GOAT, Sloane, SS, X,
Ruc: S Martin, Naitanui
Fwd: Dustin, Robbie G, Y, Petracca, Reid
Then maybe lots of rookies??? X, Y and Z are going to be three absolute steals next year, woooo
And no X is not Libba, Crouch or JOM
Looking forward to the miracles which Le Bont produces next year. Go for 110 son.
Anyone for another Brown at D8 :)
Quote from: Southstorm on September 02, 2015, 01:17:17 AM
Looking forward to the miracles which Le Bont produces next year. Go for 110 son.
Only if he is a fwd which I doubt.
Quote from: _wato on September 02, 2015, 12:28:50 AM
Def: Boyd, Smith, Birchall, Z (if someone plays on), Mackenzie
Mid: Master, Pendlebury, GOAT, Sloane, SS, X,
Ruc: S Martin, Naitanui
Fwd: Dustin, Robbie G, Y, Petracca, Reid
Then maybe lots of rookies??? X, Y and Z are going to be three absolute steals next year, woooo
And no X is not Libba, Crouch or JOM
No point hiding them, everyone will know who they are once prices are released!
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Looking forward to the miracles which Le Bont produces next year. Go for 110 son.
Only if he is a fwd which I doubt.
Surely he would be, he's spent a bit of time playing deep forward this year.
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Looking forward to the miracles which Le Bont produces next year. Go for 110 son.
Only if he is a fwd which I doubt.
Surely he would be, he's spent a bit of time playing deep forward this year.
Yeah Bont wasn't a pure mid - has to maintain DPP IMO
Right now I'm thinking
Def: H. Shaw, B. Smith, E. Yeo, A. Walker/S.D. Thompson,
Mid: Pendles, Sloane, Rockliff, Ablett, Libba
Ruc: Goldy, Mumford
Fwd: D Martin, RG, Bont/Stringer,
blanks with rookies.
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Think KK will be a lock in defence too.
Another solid score tonight.
And again. 121 tonight. Locked in if he's fit.
Shaw, KK, Smith...
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Quote from: enzedder on August 29, 2015, 12:28:05 PM
Think KK will be a lock in defence too.
Another solid score tonight.
And again. 121 tonight. Locked in if he's fit.
Shaw, KK, Smith...
Def: Shaw too expensive at start of season, KK and Smith. maybe malcheski
Mid, Ablett, Fyfe, Rocky, Sloan, maybe Libba Beams
Ruck: Goldy probably too dear, SMartin, NicNat
Fwd: Swan, Lids and Bont, also seriously consider Bennell at new club
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Think KK will be a lock in defence too.
Another solid score tonight.
And again. 121 tonight. Locked in if he's fit.
Shaw, KK, Smith...
Def: Shaw too expensive at start of season, KK and Smith. maybe malcheski
Mid, Ablett, Fyfe, Rocky, Sloan, maybe Libba Beams
Ruck: Goldy probably too dear, SMartin, NicNat
Fwd: Swan, Lids and Bont, also seriously consider Bennell at new club
I would consider Shaw if there was an abundance of mid rookies and slim pickings down back. He pretty much scored like another mid premo this year
Ill be avoiding Heater at the start of the year.
He is likely to be priced at 110 average something near 600k. This is the first year he has achieved that feat.
Historically he doesn't start seasons fantastically well, but normally finishes stronger. Not since 2010 has he averaged over 100 in the first 3 games of the year. I cant be bothered working out the average up to the bye rounds YOY, but to me it looks like he will be one of the first defenders I upgrade a rookie to.
whats the max games you can play to get a discount?
Won't be going near KK. All there guns mids will be back next year and he wont be playing on a wing like he did for a lot of this year! And when he does it will be limted. He will average less next year. No value, wont be top 6 defender by years end = no for me.
Jared Polec might be a look.
Defenders (hate them)
Shaw - Paying for certainty expect a pull back but should be best defender
Rance - will be up and down probably will get him cheaper at some stage but an important gun player
Birchall - slightly undervalued premo every year
Smith - cheap with concussions worth the price tag
Midfielders (soo much value here)
Ablett - best in the business, underpriced whats not to love
Sloane - priced at 107 i reckon 115-120 lock him in
Liberatore - depends how cheap 20% discount or greater (88 average) and im all over him
JOM - again 20% discount (78 average) and too good to pass up
Crouch - again 20% discount (76) average and locked even 10% for 86 I would pick him
Rucks:
Jacobs - elite ruck plays every game and causes no headaches
Nic Nat - elite ruck with a solid average, has big upside if he lifts i keep him and drop jacobs if he doesnt in comes Goldy
Fwds:
Lids - best forward in the game, will miss a few but worth it
Gunston - superstar, hand held him back from going 100 but hawks are up and so will he, wins the ball so doesnt need goals
Franklin - annoying but 87 average is just too cheap
Stringer - another year another lift at 78 has big big upside.
Henney - injury and list selection held him back. not anymore
Petrecca - hogan of 2016 (big call)
Shaw Birchall Rance B.Smith Rookie Rookie (Rookie, Rookie)
Ablett, Sloane, Libba, JOM, B.Crouch Mills Hooper Rookie (Rookie, Rookie, Rookie)
Jacobs, Nic Nat (Rookie)
Lids,Gunston, Franklin, Stringer, Heeney, Petrecca (Rookie, Rookie)
Nice list Holz
Will probably steer clear of Buddy next year.
Prestia , Danger, & Wines to the mids.
Obviously Gray and Dusty fwds if DPP.
Quote from: Holz on September 08, 2015, 11:46:14 AM
Defenders (hate them)
Shaw - Paying for certainty expect a pull back but should be best defender
Rance - will be up and down probably will get him cheaper at some stage but an important gun player
Birchall - slightly undervalued premo every year
Smith - cheap with concussions worth the price tag
Midfielders (soo much value here)
Ablett - best in the business, underpriced whats not to love
Sloane - priced at 107 i reckon 115-120 lock him in
Liberatore - depends how cheap 20% discount or greater (88 average) and im all over him
JOM - again 20% discount (78 average) and too good to pass up
Crouch - again 20% discount (76) average and locked even 10% for 86 I would pick him
Rucks:
Jacobs - elite ruck plays every game and causes no headaches
Nic Nat - elite ruck with a solid average, has big upside if he lifts i keep him and drop jacobs if he doesnt in comes Goldy
Fwds:
Lids - best forward in the game, will miss a few but worth it
Gunston - superstar, hand held him back from going 100 but hawks are up and so will he, wins the ball so doesnt need goals
Franklin - annoying but 87 average is just too cheap
Stringer - another year another lift at 78 has big big upside.
Henney - injury and list selection held him back. not anymore
Petrecca - hogan of 2016 (big call)
Shaw Birchall Rance B.Smith Rookie Rookie (Rookie, Rookie)
Ablett, Sloane, Libba, JOM, B.Crouch Mills Hooper Rookie (Rookie, Rookie, Rookie)
Jacobs, Nic Nat (Rookie)
Lids,Gunston, Franklin, Stringer, Heeney, Petrecca (Rookie, Rookie)
Like the list Holz. But stringer,..., really? An average of 78.... Yeah he may boost it to 85... But he not a keeper and not much value so can't see why you'd select him?
Who are mills and hooper!?
Are they going to be drafted this year?
Quote from: Holz on September 08, 2015, 11:46:14 AM
Rucks:
Jacobs - elite ruck plays every game and causes no headaches
Nic Nat - elite ruck with a solid average, has big upside if he lifts i keep him and drop jacobs if he doesnt in comes Goldy
Sauce has been a little uncooperative at times this year, will be choosing
Sandilands over him I imagine.
Both wouldn't be too bad either.
Why the Stringer love on this thread? He's had a great year for a return of 78 ppg. Where do the extra 20 points suddenly come from?!
Quote from: H1bb3i2d on September 08, 2015, 06:41:16 PM
Why the Stringer love on this thread? He's had a great year for a return of 78 ppg. Where do the extra 20 points suddenly come from?!
From his massive package.
Quote from: Money Shot on September 08, 2015, 10:11:19 AM
whats the max games you can play to get a discount?
Guideline is around 8 I think but they seem to wing it (aka judge it on a case by case basis)
Quote from: Money Shot on September 08, 2015, 03:24:41 PM
Who are mills and hooper!?
Are they going to be drafted this year?
yes GWS academy and Sydney Academy players. Basically Henney.
should be cheaper then they are worth
Quote from: The_Captain on September 08, 2015, 02:10:24 PM
Like the list Holz. But stringer,..., really? An average of 78.... Yeah he may boost it to 85... But he not a keeper and not much value so can't see why you'd select him?
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Give the buddy news and yes not sure why i went stringer (totally un holz move)
Ill probably change Buddy Stringer to Roughy Menzel
Will wines be discounted at all I think he played 13 games! Will he only be cheaper because of his injury affected games?
Quote from: Money Shot on September 09, 2015, 11:19:20 AM
Will wines be discounted at all I think he played 13 games! Will he only be cheaper because of his injury affected games?
no discount for 13 games. yes only cheaper becasue of injury games.
Similar to Bartel who will unlikely get discount but injury pushed his average down to 84
On that note im locking in Rocky at like 101
Shaw Birchall Rance B.Smith Rookie Rookie (Rookie, Rookie)
Ablett, Rocky, Sloane, Libba, JOM, Mills Hooper Rookie (Rookie, Rookie, Rookie)
Jacobs, Nic Nat (Rookie)
Lids,Gunston, Roughy, Heeney, Menzel,Petrecca (Rookie, Rookie)
You don't think Hodge will keep DPP ?
Quote from: GM on September 09, 2015, 11:33:32 AM
You don't think Hodge will keep DPP ?
should be no chance if he does then NDS should certainly get it
Boyd and McVeigh should .
Shaw, Jaensch, Smith, Seedsman, Buckley, Schraenberg (2 rookies)
Fyfe, Rocky, Ablett, Pendles, Libba, Trengrove, Mills, Hooper (Freeman, Rookie, Rookie)
Goldy, Mummy (rookie)
Gray, Martin, Bontempelli, Bennell, Petrecca, Schade, (Menzel, rookie)
Defence
Shaw: Proven gun he is locked in.
Jaensch: Can easily go 90+ next season will be discounted.
Seedsman: He is a gun and at a new club will become a gun.
Smith: Can easily go back up too 90+ with more midfield time assuming danger leaves.
Buckley: My POD at this stage for a breakout year, up the blues ;).
Schraenberg: has had a few games to get up to AFL standard and looked pretty good.
Mids:
Rocky: Will be cheap and could easily average 130.
Fyfe: the new Ablett must have in my opinion.
Ablett: Still has it if he can stay on the park, I'm predicting that he will.
Pendles: Mr. Consistant will always go 115-120
Libba: He could be a top 10 mid by end of year. (Could be changed to Crouch, JOM or Prestia)
Trengrove: Think he could easily get an 80 avg and is too good to pass up at 200k
Mills/Hooper: Going off what Holz said and who wouldn't want two Heeneys in there team.
Freeman: Not 100% on him but if fit he should be a gun.
Rucks:
Goldy: Very expensive but worth the price tag.
Mummy: Should get a slight discount and had 2 games of 60s and is under priced.
Forwards:
Gray: Again a must have forward
Martin: He is only going to get better and I think he will be #1 forward by the end of the year.
Bennel: New club he will learn his lesson and become a gun.
Bontempelli: In an improving bulldog side he will become even more of a gun.
Schade: Will be a the Hogan of 2016 at Carlton ;).
Petrecca: Another Hogan like player missed a season and will become a gun.
Menzel: Showed signs of brilliance and with a full preseason will be worth the cash.
That's my team at the moment anyways. Assuming I have enough money haha
Nice start MS.
No room for Your Boy We Trust ;)
Quote from: GM on September 09, 2015, 12:34:48 PM
Nice start MS.
No room for Your Boy We Trust ;)
I wish I could fit Cripps in but he just isn't as good as Fyfe and Rocky yet ... give the 2017 brownlow medalist another year ;)
Think that'd be right call IMO Holz... When I read your post it looked good to me except Buddy and Stringer. Buddy has been the big fwd to buck the trend but think he's not worth it anymore... Disappointing this year and personal issues just make him more of a risk though he will no doubt still have the odd round where he'll go bang! Stringer is just no. His scores say it all.
Shaw, KK, Yeo, Smith... Rookies
GAJ, Pendles, Rocky, Crouch, Libba/ JOM... Rookies
2 of Martin, Nic Nat, Jacobs, Goldy probably unaffordable/ robs elsewhere rookie
Fwds... 2-3 Usual suspects... Proven types with mid dpp/roles... rookies
Quote from: Money Shot on September 09, 2015, 12:29:44 PM
Shaw, Jaensch, Smith, Seedsman, Buckley, Schraenberg (2 rookies)
Fyfe, Rocky, Ablett, Pendles, Libba, Trengrove, Mills, Hooper (Freeman, Rookie, Rookie)
Goldy, Mummy (rookie)
Gray, Martin, Bontempelli, Bennell, Petrecca, Schade, (Menzel, rookie)
Defence
Shaw: Proven gun he is locked in.
Jaensch: Can easily go 90+ next season will be discounted.
Seedsman: He is a gun and at a new club will become a gun.
Smith: Can easily go back up too 90+ with more midfield time assuming danger leaves.
Buckley: My POD at this stage for a breakout year, up the blues ;).
Schraenberg: has had a few games to get up to AFL standard and looked pretty good.
Mids:
Rocky: Will be cheap and could easily average 130.
Fyfe: the new Ablett must have in my opinion.
Ablett: Still has it if he can stay on the park, I'm predicting that he will.
Pendles: Mr. Consistant will always go 115-120
Libba: He could be a top 10 mid by end of year. (Could be changed to Crouch, JOM or Prestia)
Trengrove: Think he could easily get an 80 avg and is too good to pass up at 200k
Mills/Hooper: Going off what Holz said and who wouldn't want two Heeneys in there team.
Freeman: Not 100% on him but if fit he should be a gun.
Rucks:
Goldy: Very expensive but worth the price tag.
Mummy: Should get a slight discount and had 2 games of 60s and is under priced.
Forwards:
Gray: Again a must have forward
Martin: He is only going to get better and I think he will be #1 forward by the end of the year.
Bennel: New club he will learn his lesson and become a gun.
Bontempelli: In an improving bulldog side he will become even more of a gun.
Schade: Will be a the Hogan of 2016 at Carlton ;).
Petrecca: Another Hogan like player missed a season and will become a gun.
Menzel: Showed signs of brilliance and with a full preseason will be worth the cash.
That's my team at the moment anyways. Assuming I have enough money haha
Excellent points re: Mummy... A ruck option I'll be looking at too.
Cheers mate!
Still think although there is lots of mid price value guns/rooks is the way to go.
Although I'm thinking of going with a full mid price defence pretty much as I think Yeo and KK could easily get out devoted by guys like Smith and Jaensch who will be much cheaper anyways!
Jimmy bartel?
What position will he be though?
been avoiding this thread but i'm bored
H Shaw, B Smith, Hurley, Salem
Fyfe, Rocky, Pendles, GAJ, B Crouch/Libba
S Martin, Goldy
Deledio, Gray.........
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on September 11, 2015, 11:27:50 AM
been avoiding this thread but i'm bored
H Shaw, B Smith, Hurley, Salem
Fyfe, Rocky, Pendles, GAJ, B Crouch/Libba
S Martin, Goldy
Deledio, Gray.........
I was super keen on him this year but didn't follow my gut. After a lot of early regret, in the end, Newnes and Hibberd were both there when it mattered and Hurley got injured.
Moral of the story? Hurley's bash and crash footy is to be admired, but he's yet to play a full season.
Quote from: H1bb3i2d on July 20, 2015, 08:26:18 PM
My 2016 Midfield:
Considering the value on offer, a 5 premium midfield will be the way to go.
I want 3 top 5 players to begin with, so:
Ablett/Fyfe - every team needs a captain, who will depend on byes most likely.
Pendles - picks himself, durable and capable of 120+, won't go any lower than priced to average.
Rockliff - his days of POD will be over.
Then I want an underpriced top 10, 110+ mid:
Sloane/Sidebottom/Shiel - my preferences in that order, byes will play a factor.
There's only room in my team for 1 underpriced not-quite-premium at M5:
Crouch/Libba - if Crouch can get his body right, otherwise a fit and healthy Libba takes his place.
5 Months later and really no change to this situation or assessment. Some people will leave out Pendles as other cheaper options available. But 120 in bag is worth it.
Libba is a SC machine but will Bont McCrea et al impact his scoring?
When is Matt Crouch likely to break out?
FWDs.
ATM looking like not many DPP fwd options so KPP selections may be a key differentiater.
Looking forward to it all.
Quote from: quinny88 on July 15, 2015, 07:01:06 PM
Can Add Hanley to the list of players that will be discounted next year
Hanley is a lock for my forward line, only player so far i can say that about. maybe 470-480k ish ;)
Agree Hanley will be in my list of mids as fwds if qualifies.
Quote from: Money Shot on September 09, 2015, 12:29:44 PM
Shaw, Jaensch, Smith, Seedsman, Buckley, Schraenberg (2 rookies)
Fyfe, Rocky, Ablett, Pendles, Libba, Trengrove, Mills, Hooper (Freeman, Rookie, Rookie)
Goldy, Mummy (rookie)
Gray, Martin, Bontempelli, Bennell, Petrecca, Schade, (Menzel, rookie)
Defence
Shaw: Proven gun he is locked in.
Jaensch: Can easily go 90+ next season will be discounted.
Seedsman: He is a gun and at a new club will become a gun.
Smith: Can easily go back up too 90+ with more midfield time assuming danger leaves.
Buckley: My POD at this stage for a breakout year, up the blues ;).
Schraenberg: has had a few games to get up to AFL standard and looked pretty good.
Mids:
Rocky: Will be cheap and could easily average 130.
Fyfe: the new Ablett must have in my opinion.
Ablett: Still has it if he can stay on the park, I'm predicting that he will.
Pendles: Mr. Consistant will always go 115-120
Libba: He could be a top 10 mid by end of year. (Could be changed to Crouch, JOM or Prestia)
Trengrove: Think he could easily get an 80 avg and is too good to pass up at 200k
Mills/Hooper: Going off what Holz said and who wouldn't want two Heeneys in there team.
Freeman: Not 100% on him but if fit he should be a gun.
Rucks:
Goldy: Very expensive but worth the price tag.
Mummy: Should get a slight discount and had 2 games of 60s and is under priced.
Forwards:
Gray: Again a must have forward
Martin: He is only going to get better and I think he will be #1 forward by the end of the year.
Bennel: New club he will learn his lesson and become a gun.
Bontempelli: In an improving bulldog side he will become even more of a gun.
Schade: Will be a the Hogan of 2016 at Carlton ;).
Petrecca: Another Hogan like player missed a season and will become a gun.
Menzel: Showed signs of brilliance and with a full preseason will be worth the cash.
That's my team at the moment anyways. Assuming I have enough money haha
3 crows in your back line?? I know the back line will see a lot of ball but it will be flying over their heads
Quote from: Grufflez on December 01, 2015, 06:38:16 AM
Quote from: quinny88 on July 15, 2015, 07:01:06 PM
Can Add Hanley to the list of players that will be discounted next year
Hanley is a lock for my forward line, only player so far i can say that about. maybe 470-480k ish ;)
Hanley in the forward line ? ???