With the Draft approaching on the 25th June Thursday Night in the US (Friday Morning here). Who will the pick 1 be and where will he go to?
http://espn.go.com/nba/lottery2015/mockdraft (http://espn.go.com/nba/lottery2015/mockdraft)
Minnesota has a 25% chance of getting the first pick, 19.9% for New York, 15.6 % Philadelphia and 11.9% Lakers with the rest being a less than 10% chance.
If Minnesota gets pick 1 we all know what that means. Wiggins, Bennett and now ?. The last 3 number 1 picks in the draft consecutively.
http://insider.espn.go.com/nba/draft/results/top100/_/year/2015 (http://insider.espn.go.com/nba/draft/results/top100/_/year/2015)
Currently NBA ESPN Insider Analysis (Chad Ford) has Karl-Anthony Towns as the first pick. For those who are no familiar with him. He played for the Kentucky wildcats team that went 38-1 loosing in the Elite 4 match up against Wisconsin. Towns at the Centre or Power Forward at times averaged 21 minutes a game, 6 rebounds, 10 points and 2.3 blocks per game. Towns being a freshmen at College meaning he only played one year the the university of Kentucky before selecting to move himself onto the NBA.
However, the man on everyone's lips the whole way through the college season was Jahlil Okafor one of the stand out players in College history and got his team over the line in the national championship game. Okafor averaged 30 out of 40 minutes a game, averaging 17.3 points per game and 8 and a half rebounds, on both ends of the floor Okafor could get it done time after time. If Minnesota get hold of pick one Jahlil Okafor is the man I believe they will select. Okafor will add immediate impact to the team and teaming with Wiggins and Bennett (where ever he fits in) is more likely to improve the line up than Towns who did not play huge amount of minutes in College.
With the 2 players mentioned above being the main contenders to be the top pick, a player nobody knows much about is Emmanuel Mudiay from Congo playing in the China league is predicted to go third. The College season was filled with height with 9 of the 13 best prospects prior to the year either played PF or Centre. Meaning Mudiay could provide the ball handling ability one of the top teams in the draft need. Pick 4 DeAngelo Russell is the only other guard until pick 15. Russell provides scoring ability inside and out dominating the offence for Ohio State. However being at the NBA level Russell would be playing the Shooting Guard position I would assume.
The Pre Draft Camps starts live on ESPN 1 on Friday the 15th at 5:00am AEST. I will certainly be watching to see which players have done the right things over the off season and looking for some stand out performers.
If you don't like the draft talk feel free to talk anything NBA that is relevant to the upcoming season otherwise PLAYOFFS are getting exciting
If I'm one of Minny, New York, Lakers, or Philly and get the #1 pick, I'm taking Okafor. Lower ceiling than Towns but his floor is very high for a big man, and if I'm rebuilding I want a sure thing. If I'm a slightly better team that lucks into the first pick then I'm taking Towns.
That being said, Justice Winslow is going to be a stud - probably my favourite player in this draft.
Quote from: Jayman on May 12, 2015, 11:20:22 PM
If I'm one of Minny, New York, Lakers, or Philly and get the #1 pick, I'm taking Okafor. Lower ceiling than Towns but his floor is very high for a big man, and if I'm rebuilding I want a sure thing. If I'm a slightly better team that lucks into the first pick then I'm taking Towns.
That being said, Justice Winslow is going to be a stud - probably my favourite player in this draft.
Loved Winslow all season, stood up when it matters and always gave 100% on both ends of the court
If Philly get the number 1 pick they are not going another big, they will either trade out or go PG
Big fan of Winslow aswell! Hope he doesnt goto the Lakers.
Monty Williams got the a$$... get Mark Jackson Peli's
Quote from: Mat0369 on May 12, 2015, 11:44:05 PM
If Philly get the number 1 pick they are not going another big, they will either trade out or go PG
Mudiay seems like the kinda guy they'd be after.
Thanks for the heads up, I've set my Foxtel to record this! Is it on Fri and Sat morning? Thats all I can see and I can't series link it?
Does anyone actually know anything about Mudiay. All I know he struggles to shoot jump shots
Quote from: jvalles69 on May 13, 2015, 09:59:04 AM
Thanks for the heads up, I've set my Foxtel to record this! Is it on Fri and Sat morning? Thats all I can see and I can't series link it?
Yeah I think that's all they are showing not sure how many days the camp goes for
The lotto pick is done next Wednesday our time. Anxious for that (Kings 6.3% chance)
Quote from: valkorum on May 13, 2015, 11:31:48 AM
The lotto pick is done next Wednesday our time. Anxious for that (Kings 6.3% chance)
Also I forgot to add Cavs are 100% chance
Quote from: R.Griffen on May 13, 2015, 11:47:24 AM
Quote from: valkorum on May 13, 2015, 11:31:48 AM
The lotto pick is done next Wednesday our time. Anxious for that (Kings 6.3% chance)
Also I forgot to add Cavs are 100% chance
I know its impossible but imagine Cavs with pick 1.
Okafor would fit in real well.
the 0.5% that the Thunder could get the number one pick gives me some hope haha.
I hope OKC move quickly on KD this year. Don't want it to drag on the whole season.
Quote from: Cookie Monster on May 13, 2015, 04:36:32 PM
the 0.5% that the Thunder could get the number one pick gives me some hope haha.
I hope OKC move quickly on KD this year. Don't want it to drag on the whole season.
that would be amazing
Westbrook Waiters KD Ibaka Okafur.
game over.
Quote from: Holz on May 13, 2015, 04:46:20 PM
Quote from: Cookie Monster on May 13, 2015, 04:36:32 PM
the 0.5% that the Thunder could get the number one pick gives me some hope haha.
I hope OKC move quickly on KD this year. Don't want it to drag on the whole season.
that would be amazing
Westbrook Waiters KD Ibaka Okafur.
game over.
Not to mention the bench which over the years depth may have cost us a title.
DJ, Kanter, Adams, Morrow, Collison, Singler, Lamb.
Quote from: Cookie Monster on May 13, 2015, 05:24:56 PM
Quote from: Holz on May 13, 2015, 04:46:20 PM
Quote from: Cookie Monster on May 13, 2015, 04:36:32 PM
the 0.5% that the Thunder could get the number one pick gives me some hope haha.
I hope OKC move quickly on KD this year. Don't want it to drag on the whole season.
that would be amazing
Westbrook Waiters KD Ibaka Okafur.
game over.
Not to mention the bench which over the years depth may have cost us a title.
DJ, Kanter, Adams, Morrow, Collison, Singler, Lamb.
Kanter would whinge like a dog again and get traded if he moves to the bench!
Best results from day 1
Rakeem Christmas: 20 points and six rebounds in the first scrimmage
Andrew Harrison: 17 points in the second scrimmage, showed to be an offensive leader on the court
Pat Connaughton: 44" vertical leap, best of the day and tied for second best of ALL TIME at the combine
Well Minesotta get the first pick, giving them the last 3 number one draft picks in Bennett, Wiggins and probably Okafor.
OKC i think can do well with pick 14 and try for a championship next season.
Also seen rumors on a trade between NYK and LAL
Melo to the Lakers for Randle and pick 2.
Only rumours but with Rondo most likely going to the Lakers...
w0w thats an old set up for Lakers, Melo, Rondo, Kobe, dont have long to get it done ???
That would be a disastrous deal for LA.
Russell or Muiday are the two the 6'ers will probably pick between. Russell is probably the front runner at the minute looking at what they need
Quote from: Mat0369 on May 20, 2015, 04:34:34 PM
Russell or Muiday are the two the 6'ers will probably pick between. Russell is probably the front runner at the minute looking at what they need
Makes sense. Would have been interesting to see what Philly would have done if they got #1 ???
Quote from: Jayman on May 20, 2015, 04:35:25 PM
Quote from: Mat0369 on May 20, 2015, 04:34:34 PM
Russell or Muiday are the two the 6'ers will probably pick between. Russell is probably the front runner at the minute looking at what they need
Makes sense. Would have been interesting to see what Philly would have done if they got #1 ???
They wouldn't have got a big that's for sure. It would have been a waste of a number one pick.
although they could have got something useful for it on the trade table.
I'm distraught that the Lakers get Okafor :'(
Disastrous start to the 15/16 campaign for the Knicks! Lakers counting themselves very lucky?
WCS would be awesome on the Celts but I doubt a 'trade up' package of 16 + 28 would be good enough to grab him. Might have to toss in a James Young/Jared Sullinger type prospect.
I wonder what trade the Kings could get for pick 6. Not sure that anything we get at 6 is going to make us a playoff contender, but shopping the pick might
Quote from: valkorum on May 20, 2015, 10:03:37 PM
I wonder what trade the Kings could get for pick 6. Not sure that anything we get at 6 is going to make us a playoff contender, but shopping the pick might
The big guys that will be around Cauley-Stein and Porzingis are both mature and could make an impact early but tradining the pick would be a better option to make a push for the playoffs
I think the only option at #6 that will fit next to DMC is Cauley-Stein but if we could get a better deal by trading #6 then I think we need to look at it.
Quote from: valkorum on May 21, 2015, 09:23:04 PM
I think the only option at #6 that will fit next to DMC is Cauley-Stein but if we could get a better deal by trading #6 then I think we need to look at it.
I WANT CAULEY-STEIN
Kings give: pick 6
Celtics give: picks 16 + 28 + Jared Sullinger + James Young
The only deal I would think about from Boston would have to include Zeller
Quote from: valkorum on May 21, 2015, 09:56:32 PM
The only deal I would think about from Boston would have to include Zeller
Kings give: pick 6
Celtics give: picks 16 + 28 + Tyler Zeller + James Young
WE WANT CAULEY-STEIN
Dont want James Young though.
Maybe Sullinger and Zeller
Quote from: valkorum on May 21, 2015, 10:08:55 PM
Dont want James Young though.
Maybe Sullinger and Zeller
You're a hard man to bargain with, but you've got yourself a deal.
Kings give: pick 6
Celtics give: pick 16 + 28 + Tyler Zeller + Jared Sullinger
Let's call it in.
Quote from: Jayman on May 21, 2015, 10:18:28 PM
Quote from: valkorum on May 21, 2015, 10:08:55 PM
Dont want James Young though.
Maybe Sullinger and Zeller
You're a hard man to bargain with, but you've got yourself a deal.
Kings give: pick 6
Celtics give: pick 16 + 28 + Tyler Zeller + Jared Sullinger
Let's call it in.
surely Sullinger is better than pick 6 alone. I know TT is given how good he is showing to be in these playoffs.
Quote from: Holz on May 21, 2015, 11:27:15 PM
Quote from: Jayman on May 21, 2015, 10:18:28 PM
Quote from: valkorum on May 21, 2015, 10:08:55 PM
Dont want James Young though.
Maybe Sullinger and Zeller
You're a hard man to bargain with, but you've got yourself a deal.
Kings give: pick 6
Celtics give: pick 16 + 28 + Tyler Zeller + Jared Sullinger
Let's call it in.
surely Sullinger is better than pick 6 alone. I know TT is given how good he is showing to be in these playoffs.
I like Sully a lot, but I'd give up a huge amount for WCS. The sad thing is that according to reports, he would've nominated for last years draft if Boston had promised they'd take him at #16 :(
http://probasketballtalk.nbcsports.com/2015/05/21/report-celtics-interested-in-trading-up-in-draft-maybe-for-willie-cauley-stein/
Haha I knew it :D
Quote from: Jayman on May 22, 2015, 09:29:22 AM
http://probasketballtalk.nbcsports.com/2015/05/21/report-celtics-interested-in-trading-up-in-draft-maybe-for-willie-cauley-stein/
Haha I knew it :D
this is where tanking would have helped.
Tom Thibodeau has been fired
Quote from: Mat0369 on May 29, 2015, 03:18:10 AM
Tom Thibodeau has been fired
Still think he's a top 6 or 7 coach - but this had to happen.
- New Orleans looking at Alvin Gentry
- Orlando hire Scott Skiles
- Chicago and Fred Hoidberg coming to terms is inevitable
Quote from: Jayman on May 30, 2015, 01:46:55 PM
Quote from: Mat0369 on May 29, 2015, 03:18:10 AM
Tom Thibodeau has been fired
Still think he's a top 6 or 7 coach - but this had to happen.
- New Orleans looking at Alvin Gentry
- Orlando hire Scott Skiles
- Chicago and Fred Hoidberg coming to terms is inevitable
TT a top 3 coach with doc and pop.
Pelicans should pick him up
Quote from: Holz on May 30, 2015, 03:06:43 PM
Quote from: Jayman on May 30, 2015, 01:46:55 PM
Quote from: Mat0369 on May 29, 2015, 03:18:10 AM
Tom Thibodeau has been fired
Still think he's a top 6 or 7 coach - but this had to happen.
- New Orleans looking at Alvin Gentry
- Orlando hire Scott Skiles
- Chicago and Fred Hoidberg coming to terms is inevitable
TT a top 3 coach with doc and pop.
Pelicans should pick him up
Doc, Pop, Kerr, Budenholzer, Stevens, Carlisle, Kidd, Vogel, SVG
I think Thibs probably slots in somewhere in that last few.
Quote from: Jayman on May 30, 2015, 03:13:23 PM
Quote from: Holz on May 30, 2015, 03:06:43 PM
Quote from: Jayman on May 30, 2015, 01:46:55 PM
Quote from: Mat0369 on May 29, 2015, 03:18:10 AM
Tom Thibodeau has been fired
Still think he's a top 6 or 7 coach - but this had to happen.
- New Orleans looking at Alvin Gentry
- Orlando hire Scott Skiles
- Chicago and Fred Hoidberg coming to terms is inevitable
TT a top 3 coach with doc and pop.
Pelicans should pick him up
Doc, Pop, Kerr, Budenholzer, Stevens, Carlisle, Kidd, Vogel, SVG
I think Thibs probably slots in somewhere in that last few.
no room for Spoelstra ???
Quote from: RiOtChEsS on May 31, 2015, 02:51:00 PM
Quote from: Jayman on May 30, 2015, 03:13:23 PM
Quote from: Holz on May 30, 2015, 03:06:43 PM
Quote from: Jayman on May 30, 2015, 01:46:55 PM
Quote from: Mat0369 on May 29, 2015, 03:18:10 AM
Tom Thibodeau has been fired
Still think he's a top 6 or 7 coach - but this had to happen.
- New Orleans looking at Alvin Gentry
- Orlando hire Scott Skiles
- Chicago and Fred Hoidberg coming to terms is inevitable
TT a top 3 coach with doc and pop.
Pelicans should pick him up
Doc, Pop, Kerr, Budenholzer, Stevens, Carlisle, Kidd, Vogel, SVG
I think Thibs probably slots in somewhere in that last few.
no room for Spoelstra ???
Has he won without the best player in the world yet? ???
Quote from: Jayman on May 31, 2015, 03:09:26 PM
Quote from: RiOtChEsS on May 31, 2015, 02:51:00 PM
Quote from: Jayman on May 30, 2015, 03:13:23 PM
Quote from: Holz on May 30, 2015, 03:06:43 PM
Quote from: Jayman on May 30, 2015, 01:46:55 PM
Quote from: Mat0369 on May 29, 2015, 03:18:10 AM
Tom Thibodeau has been fired
Still think he's a top 6 or 7 coach - but this had to happen.
- New Orleans looking at Alvin Gentry
- Orlando hire Scott Skiles
- Chicago and Fred Hoidberg coming to terms is inevitable
TT a top 3 coach with doc and pop.
Pelicans should pick him up
Doc, Pop, Kerr, Budenholzer, Stevens, Carlisle, Kidd, Vogel, SVG
I think Thibs probably slots in somewhere in that last few.
no room for Spoelstra ???
Has he won without the best player in the world yet? ???
pfft has pop won without TD? Doc one one ring with prime KG, PP and Ray in the east :-X talk about pick n choose when the rings count ::)
Quote from: RiOtChEsS on June 01, 2015, 09:45:50 AM
Quote from: Jayman on May 31, 2015, 03:09:26 PM
Quote from: RiOtChEsS on May 31, 2015, 02:51:00 PM
Quote from: Jayman on May 30, 2015, 03:13:23 PM
Quote from: Holz on May 30, 2015, 03:06:43 PM
Quote from: Jayman on May 30, 2015, 01:46:55 PM
Quote from: Mat0369 on May 29, 2015, 03:18:10 AM
Tom Thibodeau has been fired
Still think he's a top 6 or 7 coach - but this had to happen.
- New Orleans looking at Alvin Gentry
- Orlando hire Scott Skiles
- Chicago and Fred Hoidberg coming to terms is inevitable
TT a top 3 coach with doc and pop.
Pelicans should pick him up
Doc, Pop, Kerr, Budenholzer, Stevens, Carlisle, Kidd, Vogel, SVG
I think Thibs probably slots in somewhere in that last few.
no room for Spoelstra ???
Has he won without the best player in the world yet? ???
pfft has pop won without TD? Doc one one ring with prime KG, PP and Ray in the east :-X talk about pick n choose when the rings count ::)
I do like Spo, and he deserves to be in the conversation. Just don't think his coaching is proven enough yet. Look at the rosters of Boston and Miami and guess which team made the playoffs.. I know Wade and Bosh missed time but I think they underachieved :-X
Quote from: Jayman on June 01, 2015, 10:00:29 AM
Quote from: RiOtChEsS on June 01, 2015, 09:45:50 AM
Quote from: Jayman on May 31, 2015, 03:09:26 PM
Quote from: RiOtChEsS on May 31, 2015, 02:51:00 PM
Quote from: Jayman on May 30, 2015, 03:13:23 PM
Quote from: Holz on May 30, 2015, 03:06:43 PM
Quote from: Jayman on May 30, 2015, 01:46:55 PM
Quote from: Mat0369 on May 29, 2015, 03:18:10 AM
Tom Thibodeau has been fired
Still think he's a top 6 or 7 coach - but this had to happen.
- New Orleans looking at Alvin Gentry
- Orlando hire Scott Skiles
- Chicago and Fred Hoidberg coming to terms is inevitable
TT a top 3 coach with doc and pop.
Pelicans should pick him up
Doc, Pop, Kerr, Budenholzer, Stevens, Carlisle, Kidd, Vogel, SVG
I think Thibs probably slots in somewhere in that last few.
no room for Spoelstra ???
Has he won without the best player in the world yet? ???
pfft has pop won without TD? Doc one one ring with prime KG, PP and Ray in the east :-X talk about pick n choose when the rings count ::)
I do like Spo, and he deserves to be in the conversation. Just don't think his coaching is proven enough yet. Look at the rosters of Boston and Miami and guess which team made the playoffs.. I know Wade and Bosh missed time but I think they underachieved :-X
u cant base his coaching career on one season, they definitely underachieved, they dont have an identity yet, apart from the stars missing time we brought in new guys in Dragic, McRoberts, Deng, the emergence of Whiteside, its a strong list talent wise, he will get it to fit, watch out for us next year ;)
Riot, have you heard about the contract problems going on between Miami and Wade? What do you think?
Still great when healthy, but he's probably not worth what he wants at this stage... :-X
Quote from: Jayman on June 01, 2015, 10:47:54 AM
Riot, have you heard about the contract problems going on between Miami and Wade? What do you think?
Still great when healthy, but he's probably not worth what he wants at this stage... :-X
havent heard, LeBron's decision had its impact on things...
Quote from: RiOtChEsS on June 01, 2015, 06:04:10 PM
Quote from: Jayman on June 01, 2015, 10:47:54 AM
Riot, have you heard about the contract problems going on between Miami and Wade? What do you think?
Still great when healthy, but he's probably not worth what he wants at this stage... :-X
havent heard, LeBron's decision had its impact on things...
http://www.cbssports.com/nba/eye-on-basketball/25199189/reports-heats-dwyane-wade-wants-a-raise-contract-talks-stall
Quote from: Jayman on June 01, 2015, 06:06:44 PM
Quote from: RiOtChEsS on June 01, 2015, 06:04:10 PM
Quote from: Jayman on June 01, 2015, 10:47:54 AM
Riot, have you heard about the contract problems going on between Miami and Wade? What do you think?
Still great when healthy, but he's probably not worth what he wants at this stage... :-X
havent heard, LeBron's decision had its impact on things...
http://www.cbssports.com/nba/eye-on-basketball/25199189/reports-heats-dwyane-wade-wants-a-raise-contract-talks-stall
1) i think he is bluffing
2) test the market, teams arent gonna give a 2 guard his age with his knees that money to play 50 odd games a year for 3 years
3) there isnt a better situation out there for him
Any chance Wade is doing it so he can get to Cleveland??? If he knows Love isn't going to be there next season, then they will have cap space for him surely. A starting line-up of Kyrie, Wade, Lebron, Thompson and Mozgov is scary. :o
Quote from: jvalles69 on June 10, 2015, 07:59:30 PM
Any chance Wade is doing it so he can get to Cleveland??? If he knows Love isn't going to be there next season, then they will have cap space for him surely. A starting line-up of Kyrie, Wade, Lebron, Thompson and Mozgov is scary. :o
yes very scary to me. I dont want wade and his old knees on my team, also I dont like wade.
TT will demmand a pay rise this series has shown its better to get good role players to fill out the team.
Kryrie Shumpert James Thompson Mozgov/Varejo with Smith and maybe another 5-10 mil guy sounds better.
Quote from: Holz on June 10, 2015, 09:26:57 PM
Quote from: jvalles69 on June 10, 2015, 07:59:30 PM
Any chance Wade is doing it so he can get to Cleveland??? If he knows Love isn't going to be there next season, then they will have cap space for him surely. A starting line-up of Kyrie, Wade, Lebron, Thompson and Mozgov is scary. :o
yes very scary to me. I dont want wade and his old knees on my team, also I dont like wade.
TT will demmand a pay rise this series has shown its better to get good role players to fill out the team.
Kryrie Shumpert James Thompson Mozgov/Varejo with Smith and maybe another 5-10 mil guy sounds better.
Funny thing is that Dellavedova is a free agent too and might require 5 mil to keep if he keeps up this play.
Wade would just clog up the guard positions, as great as Wade is he isnt the best SG for LeBron, he cant shoot the 3 well enough
Bucks trade Ersan Ilyasove for Detroit's Caron Butler.
Seems like just stocking up on depth in a position where they have a free agent (Milwaukee with Kris Middleton and Detroit with Monroe).
Far better deal for Detroit though. Remember when everyone thought Illyasove was really handy?
*every Minnesota fan cringes*
(https://scontent-hkg3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xtf1/v/t1.0-9/11412377_842448042529307_517427522617069180_n.jpg?oh=4e8424d98751d86ca57987bebbd05dc4&oe=55FDE26C)
Quote from: Jayman on June 15, 2015, 08:06:34 PM
*every Minnesota fan cringes*
That's NBL All-Star Johnny Flynn to you.
Quote from: Jayman on June 12, 2015, 08:31:22 AM
Bucks trade Ersan Ilyasove for Detroit's Caron Butler.
Seems like just stocking up on depth in a position where they have a free agent (Milwaukee with Kris Middleton and Detroit with Monroe).
Half. Ilyasova is definitely there because Monroe is all but gone. But Bucks did it to posture for free agency (BroLo, Chandler targets).
Middleton is a RFA and Bucks will match anything probably.
Quote from: My Chumps on June 15, 2015, 03:35:30 PM
Far better deal for Detroit though. Remember when everyone thought Illyasove was really handy?
Yeah, he had a really good stretch at one point and then nada.
Quote from: batt on June 15, 2015, 08:11:54 PM
Quote from: Jayman on June 15, 2015, 08:06:34 PM
*every Minnesota fan cringes*
That's NBL All-Star Johnny Flynn to you.
Quote from: Jayman on June 12, 2015, 08:31:22 AM
Bucks trade Ersan Ilyasove for Detroit's Caron Butler.
Seems like just stocking up on depth in a position where they have a free agent (Milwaukee with Kris Middleton and Detroit with Monroe).
Half. Ilyasova is definitely there because Monroe is all but gone. But Bucks did it to posture for free agency (BroLo, Chandler targets).
Middleton is a RFA and Bucks will match anything probably.
You're right, hadn't really looked at it in too much detail at the time.
The whole Kris Middleton getting the max thing shows how far analytics have evolved in the NBA. Would never have even been considered a max player 5-10 years ago. He's good, and fits their system perfectly of lengthy wing players on the perimeter.
MCW / Giannis / Middleton / Parker / Lopez or Chandler is certainly an intriguing lineup. Think they'd struggle to score with Chandler in their though - but then again BroLo doesn't help their offense when he's injured.
Was it just me who heard the Pistons are targeting Danny Green? Can't imagine the Spurs not re-signing him but a Jackson / Green / Hezonja / Ilyasova / Drummond lineup would be sweeeet 8)
Yeah we'll probably see a heap of max contracts this offseason since the cap rise will change things so dramatically in 16-17.
Can't wait to see how Mario does in the NBA and I think Detroit would be a great fit for them.
As for the Bucks, it looks like they're becoming the new Bulls! All about grit, especially if the get Chandler.
Clippers r making a move, Barnes and Hawes for................ Lance :o
http://www.sbnation.com/nba/2015/6/15/8786289/lance-stephenson-trade-rumors-los-angeles-clippers-hornets
Yep that's confirmed now, Riot.
Lance ranked dead last in win shares.. But is on $9M a year. Clipps didn't give up much to get him, but it's still a risk.
Quote from: Jayman on June 16, 2015, 11:06:33 AM
Yep that's confirmed now, Riot.
Lance ranked dead last in win shares.. But is on $9M a year. Clipps didn't give up much to get him, but it's still a risk.
could be a championship move. hawes didnt do much at all and they desperately needed offence from their SF.
just got to keep griffin paul and jordan togehter and im really liking this team.
Clips Cavs series next year.
Quote from: Holz on June 16, 2015, 11:20:30 AM
Quote from: Jayman on June 16, 2015, 11:06:33 AM
Yep that's confirmed now, Riot.
Lance ranked dead last in win shares.. But is on $9M a year. Clipps didn't give up much to get him, but it's still a risk.
could be a championship move. hawes didnt do much at all and they desperately needed offence from their SF.
just got to keep griffin paul and jordan togehter and im really liking this team.
Clips Cavs series next year.
with the wiggle room they had and what they gave up it aint to bad as he can be a good player...
but what does Lance
think? if his confidence is low he is terrible, personally i dont see him able to fit in and this is why.
Lance's success came as a ball handler in Indiana where George Hill was the PG, a low volume combo guard.
He couldnt coexist in Charlotte with Kemba Walker who is a higher volume combo guard.
In LA CP3 is the primary general, secondarily running thru BG32 and his 5 APG (2015), then Austin Rivers running the 2nd unit.
Lance isnt a spot up shooter he is a create a shot guy, without an injury to CP3 i dont think the move will bare much fruit.
Quote from: RiOtChEsS on June 16, 2015, 11:56:39 AM
Quote from: Holz on June 16, 2015, 11:20:30 AM
Quote from: Jayman on June 16, 2015, 11:06:33 AM
Yep that's confirmed now, Riot.
Lance ranked dead last in win shares.. But is on $9M a year. Clipps didn't give up much to get him, but it's still a risk.
could be a championship move. hawes didnt do much at all and they desperately needed offence from their SF.
just got to keep griffin paul and jordan togehter and im really liking this team.
Clips Cavs series next year.
with the wiggle room they had and what they gave up it aint to bad as he can be a good player...
but what does Lance think? if his confidence is low he is terrible, personally i dont see him able to fit in and this is why.
Lance's success came as a ball handler in Indiana where George Hill was the PG, a low volume combo guard.
He couldnt coexist in Charlotte with Kemba Walker who is a higher volume combo guard.
In LA CP3 is the primary general, secondarily running thru BG32 and his 5 APG (2015), then Austin Rivers running the 2nd unit.
Lance isnt a spot up shooter he is a create a shot guy, without an injury to CP3 i dont think the move will bare much fruit.
He might be very useful though if they plan on conserving CP3 more throughout the regular season. Giving his more breaks throughout games so he doesn't burn out prior to finals. Lance can be an x-factor for sure, just needs to get his head right and be used correctly.
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Yep that's confirmed now, Riot.
Lance ranked dead last in win shares.. But is on $9M a year. Clipps didn't give up much to get him, but it's still a risk.
could be a championship move. hawes didnt do much at all and they desperately needed offence from their SF.
just got to keep griffin paul and jordan togehter and im really liking this team.
Clips Cavs series next year.
with the wiggle room they had and what they gave up it aint to bad as he can be a good player...
but what does Lance think? if his confidence is low he is terrible, personally i dont see him able to fit in and this is why.
Lance's success came as a ball handler in Indiana where George Hill was the PG, a low volume combo guard.
He couldnt coexist in Charlotte with Kemba Walker who is a higher volume combo guard.
In LA CP3 is the primary general, secondarily running thru BG32 and his 5 APG (2015), then Austin Rivers running the 2nd unit.
Lance isnt a spot up shooter he is a create a shot guy, without an injury to CP3 i dont think the move will bare much fruit.
He might be very useful though if they plan on conserving CP3 more throughout the regular season. Giving his more breaks throughout games so he doesn't burn out prior to finals. Lance can be an x-factor for sure, just needs to get his head right and be used correctly.
agree pretty nice guy coming off the bench. with paul and doc mentoring him if anyone is going to get him right than its those two. They need to try something as they are very very close to the ring just always needed an extra piece. maybe this is it.
Maybe they think they can trade Crawford for a '3 and D' wing player, then have Lance fill Crawford's role off the bench?
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Maybe they think they can trade Crawford for a '3 and D' wing player, then have Lance fill Crawford's role off the bench?
Crawford must be cooked then (foot?) cos id prefer him over Lance, personality and player wise
http://www.businessinsider.com.au/joel-embiid-injury-could-keep-him-out-for-next-season-2015-6
this is why i dont advocate drafting injured players
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http://www.businessinsider.com.au/joel-embiid-injury-could-keep-him-out-for-next-season-2015-6
this is why i dont advocate drafting injured players
Noel turned out to be a good pick, looks like the picks of that draft.
just imagine if cavs went him and kept wiggins
Irving Wiggins LBJ TT Mozgov/Noel with Shumpert Jr off the bench.
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Maybe they think they can trade Crawford for a '3 and D' wing player, then have Lance fill Crawford's role off the bench?
Crawford must be cooked then (foot?) cos id prefer him over Lance, personality and player wise
Yeah I dunno man, they don't exactly have any assets to trade, especially since the Celts have their pick this year. Maybe trading Crawford is the only way to sure up that SF spot? Alternatively, maybe he's dumped Barnes because he knows The Truth will sign? I don't care what his birth certificate says, he'd be a huge get for them. Still go it 8)
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http://www.businessinsider.com.au/joel-embiid-injury-could-keep-him-out-for-next-season-2015-6
this is why i dont advocate drafting injured players
(http://nbafunnymeme.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/02/b-hijglccaajx4z.jpg)
Meh, they aren't going to contend for a few years anyway. Let him heal, he is still doing shooting work and doing stuff with the coaches. He needs to work on dietary stuff because he ballooned out a bit with the injury which would result in a slower recovery. The kid has serious skills so it is just a matter of time which Philly have. The core is likely to be Russell, Covington, Saric, Embiid, Noel with guys like Grant, Robinson, Thomson and Wroten who will be replaced by even more first round picks and free agents.
and this
http://www.kansascity.com/sports/college/big-12/university-of-kansas/article24532723.html
It is not a new injury, they are just reducing his workload due to it healing a bit slower then they thought it would
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Maybe they think they can trade Crawford for a '3 and D' wing player, then have Lance fill Crawford's role off the bench?
Crawford must be cooked then (foot?) cos id prefer him over Lance, personality and player wise
Yeah I dunno man, they don't exactly have any assets to trade, especially since the Celts have their pick this year. Maybe trading Crawford is the only way to sure up that SF spot? Alternatively, maybe he's dumped Barnes because he knows The Truth will sign? I don't care what his birth certificate says, he'd be a huge get for them. Still go it 8)
yeah if they get PP il change my opinion, not just for his play but his leadership, he could make a difference playoff time
posting to keep updated
Just watched some film of both Towns, and Okafor.
Much prefer Towns. Has high upside on the defensive end, great motor, versatility for a 7 footer and his shooting stroke looks really nice too. Fantastic prospect.
Minnesota pairing him with Wiggins is just unfair.
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Just watched some film of both Towns, and Okafor.
Much prefer Towns. Has high upside on the defensive end, great motor, versatility for a 7 footer and his shooting stroke looks really nice too. Fantastic prospect.
Minnesota pairing him with Wiggins is just unfair.
illustrates how awful the Cavs r with decisions, took Bennett ahead of Oladipo, traded Wiggins for a guy they didnt utilize who will walk for nothing, sack coach Brown with 4 years on his contract, sign next coach for 4 years cos they dont know the best player on the planet is gonna fall in their lap, talk about dumb luck ::)
Okay just finished watching some D'Angelo Russell tape.
He's incredible. I've got him over Okafor, and only behind Towns because he isn't a big man.
Quote from: Jayman on June 19, 2015, 09:52:58 PM
Okay just finished watching some D'Angelo Russell tape.
He's incredible. I've got him over Okafor, and only behind Towns because he isn't a big man.
Yeah Russell is dope, kind of hope he goes to the Knicks, they need him
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Okay just finished watching some D'Angelo Russell tape.
He's incredible. I've got him over Okafor, and only behind Towns because he isn't a big man.
Yeah Russell is dope, kind of hope he goes to the Knicks, they need him
I reckon Russell is all but gone to 76ers as they've been working him out recently. God 76er's are going to be fun too watch over the years if they can keep this young nucleus together.
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Okay just finished watching some D'Angelo Russell tape.
He's incredible. I've got him over Okafor, and only behind Towns because he isn't a big man.
Yeah Russell is dope, kind of hope he goes to the Knicks, they need him
Lakers should take him at 2. I don't love the Randle/Okafor pairing. Neither can protect the rim.
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Okay just finished watching some D'Angelo Russell tape.
He's incredible. I've got him over Okafor, and only behind Towns because he isn't a big man.
Yeah Russell is dope, kind of hope he goes to the Knicks, they need him
Lakers should take him at 2. I don't love the Randle/Okafor pairing. Neither can protect the rim.
little Buss and Kupchak dont make good decisions, Kobe wont want a rookie PG, they will take the big... and pay Rondo
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Okay just finished watching some D'Angelo Russell tape.
He's incredible. I've got him over Okafor, and only behind Towns because he isn't a big man.
Yeah Russell is dope, kind of hope he goes to the Knicks, they need him
Lakers should take him at 2. I don't love the Randle/Okafor pairing. Neither can protect the rim.
little Buss and Kupchak dont make good decisions, Kobe wont want a rookie PG, they will take the big... and pay Rondo
^This. Still have to go with the player who has the higher value which would be Okafor.
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Okay just finished watching some D'Angelo Russell tape.
He's incredible. I've got him over Okafor, and only behind Towns because he isn't a big man.
Yeah Russell is dope, kind of hope he goes to the Knicks, they need him
I reckon Russell is all but gone to 76ers as they've been working him out recently. God 76er's are going to be fun too watch over the years if they can keep this young nucleus together.
Some recent mock drafts have Phillie taking Kristaps Porzingis at 3... :o
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Okay just finished watching some D'Angelo Russell tape.
He's incredible. I've got him over Okafor, and only behind Towns because he isn't a big man.
Yeah Russell is dope, kind of hope he goes to the Knicks, they need him
I reckon Russell is all but gone to 76ers as they've been working him out recently. God 76er's are going to be fun too watch over the years if they can keep this young nucleus together.
Some recent mock drafts have Phillie taking Kristaps Porzingis at 3... :o
Yeah they reckon this guy could go any where from 3-7.
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Okay just finished watching some D'Angelo Russell tape.
He's incredible. I've got him over Okafor, and only behind Towns because he isn't a big man.
Yeah Russell is dope, kind of hope he goes to the Knicks, they need him
I reckon Russell is all but gone to 76ers as they've been working him out recently. God 76er's are going to be fun too watch over the years if they can keep this young nucleus together.
Some recent mock drafts have Phillie taking Kristaps Porzingis at 3... :o
Yeah they reckon this guy could go any where from 3-7.
If that happens Knicks will be happy. They were after one of Towns, Okafor of Russell and will trade their pick most likely if they don't get any of them. 76s getting Porzingis who I really like would allow Kincks to keep the pick
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Okay just finished watching some D'Angelo Russell tape.
He's incredible. I've got him over Okafor, and only behind Towns because he isn't a big man.
Yeah Russell is dope, kind of hope he goes to the Knicks, they need him
I reckon Russell is all but gone to 76ers as they've been working him out recently. God 76er's are going to be fun too watch over the years if they can keep this young nucleus together.
Some recent mock drafts have Phillie taking Kristaps Porzingis at 3... :o
Yeah they reckon this guy could go any where from 3-7.
I like him but I'm kinda wary of Euro guys (Bargnani). Would not take him above Russell.
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Okay just finished watching some D'Angelo Russell tape.
He's incredible. I've got him over Okafor, and only behind Towns because he isn't a big man.
Yeah Russell is dope, kind of hope he goes to the Knicks, they need him
I reckon Russell is all but gone to 76ers as they've been working him out recently. God 76er's are going to be fun too watch over the years if they can keep this young nucleus together.
Some recent mock drafts have Phillie taking Kristaps Porzingis at 3... :o
Yeah they reckon this guy could go any where from 3-7.
I like him but I'm kinda wary of Euro guys (Bargnani). Would not take him above Russell.
out the gate straight into a game, Russell is the best player in the draft, immediate impact
6'ers will take Russell. They need a PG and he fits the bill
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6'ers will take Russell. They need a PG and he fits the bill
gonna be the next Lillard, instant 18 a game
don't care about basketball but Lebron's son looks pretty good on the court
http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2308088-lebron-james-9-year-old-son-has-serious-skills-on-the-basketball-court
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6'ers will take Russell. They need a PG and he fits the bill
gonna be the next Lillard, instant 18 a game
Kinda reminds me of Penny Hardaway :-X
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don't care about basketball but Lebron's son looks pretty good on the court
http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2308088-lebron-james-9-year-old-son-has-serious-skills-on-the-basketball-court
Imagine if they were in the league at the same time!
Lol at how the Lakers trying to trade for Cousins is even a story...
News flash. Everyone is.
Quote from: Jayman on June 23, 2015, 01:22:15 PM
Lol at how the Lakers trying to trade for Cousins is even a story...
News flash. Everyone is.
What's even funnier is that Vlade Divac has said MANY TIMES that DMC is not available for a trade.... except for if the offer was Michael Jordan
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Lol at how the Lakers trying to trade for Cousins is even a story...
News flash. Everyone is.
What's even funnier is that Vlade Divac has said MANY TIMES that DMC is not available for a trade.... except for if the offer was Michael Jordan
MJ should trade himself to Sacramento so that DMC goes to Charlotte!
Heard the offer on the table involves 3 teams with the main pieces being DMC to LA, Okafor (when drafted) to Orlando and Vucevic to Sacramento plus all the usual extras to even things up.
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Lol at how the Lakers trying to trade for Cousins is even a story...
News flash. Everyone is.
What's even funnier is that Vlade Divac has said MANY TIMES that DMC is not available for a trade.... except for if the offer was Michael Jordan
MJ should trade himself to Sacramento so that DMC goes to Charlotte!
Heard the offer on the table involves 3 teams with the main pieces being DMC to LA, Okafor (when drafted) to Orlando and Vucevic to Sacramento plus all the usual extras to even things up.
Vucevic is good but he is no Boogie, take a lot more than that to get it done
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Lol at how the Lakers trying to trade for Cousins is even a story...
News flash. Everyone is.
What's even funnier is that Vlade Divac has said MANY TIMES that DMC is not available for a trade.... except for if the offer was Michael Jordan
MJ should trade himself to Sacramento so that DMC goes to Charlotte!
Heard the offer on the table involves 3 teams with the main pieces being DMC to LA, Okafor (when drafted) to Orlando and Vucevic to Sacramento plus all the usual extras to even things up.
Vucevic is good but he is no Boogie, take a lot more than that to get it done
I don't even think #2 pick + Randle would be enough to get Boogie.
Very interesting that this is all starting to gain some momentum. Now Adrian Wojnarowski has just written an article saying that George Karl is wanting to trade Cousins
http://sports.yahoo.com/news/sources--george-karl-pushing-for-kings-to-trade-demarcus-cousins-051748948.html
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Very interesting that this is all starting to gain some momentum. Now Adrian Wojnarowski has just written an article saying that George Karl is wanting to trade Cousins
http://sports.yahoo.com/news/sources--george-karl-pushing-for-kings-to-trade-demarcus-cousins-051748948.html
Maybe the offer is better than we think?
Quote from: valkorum on June 23, 2015, 04:33:45 PM
Very interesting that this is all starting to gain some momentum. Now Adrian Wojnarowski has just written an article saying that George Karl is wanting to trade Cousins
http://sports.yahoo.com/news/sources--george-karl-pushing-for-kings-to-trade-demarcus-cousins-051748948.html
Anything from Woj gets my attention, he's the #1 reporter - but I just can't see anyone putting together a good enough package for the most talented centre in the league, who is still young and on a good contract. Players like that barely ever get moved.
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Quote from: valkorum on June 23, 2015, 04:33:45 PM
Very interesting that this is all starting to gain some momentum. Now Adrian Wojnarowski has just written an article saying that George Karl is wanting to trade Cousins
http://sports.yahoo.com/news/sources--george-karl-pushing-for-kings-to-trade-demarcus-cousins-051748948.html
Anything from Woj gets my attention, he's the #1 reporter - but I just can't see anyone putting together a good enough package for the most talented centre in the league, who is still young and on a good contract. Players like that barely ever get moved.
Yeh, Woj normally gets my attention too.
It would have to be some serious players come to the Kings to entertain a deal for Cousins and/or pick #6
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Quote from: valkorum on June 23, 2015, 04:33:45 PM
Very interesting that this is all starting to gain some momentum. Now Adrian Wojnarowski has just written an article saying that George Karl is wanting to trade Cousins
http://sports.yahoo.com/news/sources--george-karl-pushing-for-kings-to-trade-demarcus-cousins-051748948.html
Anything from Woj gets my attention, he's the #1 reporter - but I just can't see anyone putting together a good enough package for the most talented centre in the league, who is still young and on a good contract. Players like that barely ever get moved.
Yeh, Woj normally gets my attention too.
It would have to be some serious players come to the Kings to entertain a deal for Cousins and/or pick #6
What's DMC's contract like? Maybe they don't think he'll stay and want something decent back for him.
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Very interesting that this is all starting to gain some momentum. Now Adrian Wojnarowski has just written an article saying that George Karl is wanting to trade Cousins
http://sports.yahoo.com/news/sources--george-karl-pushing-for-kings-to-trade-demarcus-cousins-051748948.html
Anything from Woj gets my attention, he's the #1 reporter - but I just can't see anyone putting together a good enough package for the most talented centre in the league, who is still young and on a good contract. Players like that barely ever get moved.
Yeh, Woj normally gets my attention too.
It would have to be some serious players come to the Kings to entertain a deal for Cousins and/or pick #6
What's DMC's contract like? Maybe they don't think he'll stay and want something decent back for him.
He's contracted until 2018 if I remember correctly. So really doesn't make any sense for them to move him unless he's forcing his way out - which he isn't.
His contract is a good one for the quality of player he is
~$40M over 3 years
Geez the more I've read the more it looks like DMC is gone!?!? Karl wants him out and DMC wants out because of it. Other rumour I've heard is Ty Lawson and Kenneth Faried for DMC. This wouldn't be a bad move if they can get a C elsewhere. I'd be putting Rudy Gay up on the trade table too if I was Sac, maybe try and get Bledsoe and Plumlee from the suns? Starting 5 with Lawson, Bledsoe, Manimal and Plumlee would be a damn exciting team to watch and is prob better than what they have now!
will give you love you give us DMC
all good i asumme
Minnesota have made Anthony Bennett available.
I'll start the bidding off at an empty coke can, and a mars bar.
Just remember you could trade in that Coke can for 10c in South Australia at the end of next year Jay...
i knew they had a fallout at the end of last year but this is just terrible for the Kings, DmC still has his best ahead of him and Karl has been a good people person in the past, why cant they nut it out ??? no matter what they swing the Kings wont get that sort of value in return. DmC has to be the problem here which doesnt bode well for whoever lands him.
Quote from: RiOtChEsS on June 23, 2015, 10:09:01 PM
i knew they had a fallout at the end of last year but this is just terrible for the Kings, DmC still has his best ahead of him and Karl has been a good people person in the past, why cant they nut it out ??? no matter what they swing the Kings wont get that sort of value in return. DmC has to be the problem here which doesnt bode well for whoever lands him.
From what I've heard the rift is inconsolable and DMC wants back with Malone, so Denver looks like a very possible landing place.
DMC to Boston plz.
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DMC to Boston plz.
What are Boston's draft picks? This could be a possibility.
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DMC to Boston plz.
What are Boston's draft picks? This could be a possibility.
Oh you really want to get into this? Here goes >:D
2015: Celtics' first round pick, Clippers first round pick
2016: Celtics' first round pick, Brooklyn first round pick, Dallas first round pick, Minnesota first round pick
2017: Celtics' first round pick, Right to swap first round picks with Brooklyn
2018: Celtics' first round pick, Brooklyn first round pick, Memphis first round pick
Granted, the Dallas, Minnesota and Memphis picks are protected in some fashion - but they're still pretty valuable. And the unprotected Brooklyn picks are like gold, with they showerty roster and cap situation 8)
If DMC wants to come to boston, it shouldnt be a problem. its up to him.
Quote from: Andrew3737 on June 23, 2015, 11:19:57 PM
If DMC wants to come to boston, it shouldnt be a problem. its up to him.
Is it? He's still contracted for ages, it's more Sacremento finding the best possible deal for him you'd think. But you're right, if DMC demands to go somewhere, then that makes the situation easier. Good mates with Isaiah too, if I remember correctly.
They can have our pick this year, a couple of Brooklyn picks and Marcus Smart for all I care. Boogie in the Coach Stevens offense is sexy as flower.
Alabama doesnt have an NBA team so going home isnt really a draw card
where do you think Porzingis should be drafted?
Boston looking to makes moves
http://basketball.realgm.com/wiretap/238301/Celtics-Offer-Marcus-Smart-Two-Firsts-To-76ers-For-Nerlens-Noel-No-3
Quote from: RiOtChEsS on June 24, 2015, 08:46:07 AM
where do you think Porzingis should be drafted?
6-10. His numbers from playing over in the Euroleague are worse than what Bargnani's were :-X
Quote from: valkorum on June 24, 2015, 08:50:18 AM
Boston looking to makes moves
http://basketball.realgm.com/wiretap/238301/Celtics-Offer-Marcus-Smart-Two-Firsts-To-76ers-For-Nerlens-Noel-No-3
Haha what a dreadful offer ;D Smart + two firsts for Nerlens and then we might be getting somewhere.
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where do you think Porzingis should be drafted?
6-10. His numbers from playing over in the Euroleague are worse than what Bargnani's were :-X
Quote from: valkorum on June 24, 2015, 08:50:18 AM
Boston looking to makes moves
http://basketball.realgm.com/wiretap/238301/Celtics-Offer-Marcus-Smart-Two-Firsts-To-76ers-For-Nerlens-Noel-No-3
Haha what a dreadful offer ;D Smart + two firsts for Nerlens and then we might be getting somewhere.
low ball offer if ive ever seen one ;D
yeah i dont rate him highly on what ive seen, read some were comparing him to Dirk ???
Can't see Cousins AND Karl returning next year.. Something's gotta give.
Quote from: Jayman on June 24, 2015, 10:55:48 AM
Can't see Cousins AND Karl returning next year.. Something's gotta give.
Karl has just come out calling the rumour "Fibs and Lies".
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Can't see Cousins AND Karl returning next year.. Something's gotta give.
Karl has just come out calling the rumour "Fibs and Lies".
So you think Woj got it wrong?
Where there's smoke, there's fire, man.
I honestly dont know what to believe. Just reporting what I am reading
Like we have both said, Woj is normally an extremely reliable journo.
Vlade Divac - Saying Cousins is staying at Sacramento
http://www.sactownroyalty.com/2015/6/23/8836039/vlade-divac-demarcus-cousins-george-karl
Coach Karl - Saying rumour is lies and fibs
http://www.sacbee.com/incoming/article25359394.html
Quote from: valkorum on June 24, 2015, 12:33:23 PM
I honestly dont know what to believe. Just reporting what I am reading
Like we have both said, Woj is normally an extremely reliable journo.
Vlade Divac - Saying Cousins is staying at Sacramento
http://www.sactownroyalty.com/2015/6/23/8836039/vlade-divac-demarcus-cousins-george-karl
Coach Karl - Saying rumour is lies and fibs
http://www.sacbee.com/incoming/article25359394.html
The one fact is that Cousins doesn't want to play under Karl so he's gone or will be a headcase for them next season.
Do ya think Karl might get the rug pulled out from under him?
Quote from: jvalles69 on June 24, 2015, 01:30:19 PM
The one fact is that Cousins doesn't want to play under Karl so he's gone or will be a headcase for them next season.
That is not a fact - please give a source if you have one.
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Do ya think Karl might get the rug pulled out from under him?
No idea.
There is also lots of chatter about Rudy Gay and Nik Stauskus on the trade block
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Do ya think Karl might get the rug pulled out from under him?
No idea.
There is also lots of chatter about Rudy Gay and Nik Stauskus on the trade block
was thinking if Karl is the odd one out of the 4 (divac, owner, dmc) then the easy fix is to move him on
Stauskas definitely on the trading block. He looked to be one of the most likely guys to bring instant impact coming out of college I think is the only reason they have him. He didn't do that so he is gone by the looks
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where do you think Porzingis should be drafted?
Where he should be drafted is differet to where he will be drafted 8-12 is where I think he should be drafted
Players that play college have their games broken down to the very basics one bad performance effects the draft stocks. Randle was a great example he finished the 2013/14 College season on fire and then in the first couple games of the NCAA tournament was also the same. Since his team made the final and he played a couple bad games his draft stock went from top 5 to 6-10
Porzingis same boat as Exum not playing college hides some of the bad performances a reason why his numbers aren't good
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The one fact is that Cousins doesn't want to play under Karl so he's gone or will be a headcase for them next season.
That is not a fact - please give a source if you have one.
I'll find it when I get back form work, but Cousins has said he wants out and there is no source that says the opposite.
If anyone can find for me the teams that are after Bennett since he is being shopped around that would be great
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If anyone can find for me the teams that are after Bennett since he is being shopped around that would be great
No destination clubs have been named as far as I can tell.... just that they are looking to move him on.
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Quote from: jvalles69 on June 24, 2015, 01:30:19 PM
The one fact is that Cousins doesn't want to play under Karl so he's gone or will be a headcase for them next season.
That is not a fact - please give a source if you have one.
I'll find it when I get back form work, but Cousins has said he wants out and there is no source that says the opposite.
I heard this too ^ on a podcast I think it was. Basically the rumour was that Cousins has been wanting out for a couple of months. Source was from a play-by-play guy in the league if I remember correctly.
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Quote from: jvalles69 on June 24, 2015, 01:30:19 PM
The one fact is that Cousins doesn't want to play under Karl so he's gone or will be a headcase for them next season.
That is not a fact - please give a source if you have one.
I'll find it when I get back form work, but Cousins has said he wants out and there is no source that says the opposite.
I heard this too ^ on a podcast I think it was. Basically the rumour was that Cousins has been wanting out for a couple of months. Source was from a play-by-play guy in the league if I remember correctly.
One of many articles and snippets I've come across. Point is I haven't heard any reports that DMC wants to stay.
http://www.cbssports.com/nba/eye-on-basketball/25222636/report-kings-demarcus-cousins-asked-for-a-trade-a-month-ago (http://www.cbssports.com/nba/eye-on-basketball/25222636/report-kings-demarcus-cousins-asked-for-a-trade-a-month-ago)
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http://www.cbssports.com/nba/eye-on-basketball/25222636/report-kings-demarcus-cousins-asked-for-a-trade-a-month-ago (http://www.cbssports.com/nba/eye-on-basketball/25222636/report-kings-demarcus-cousins-asked-for-a-trade-a-month-ago)
That article is a fluff piece based around a tweet by Carmichael Dave. I dont take too much in to Carmichael's articles about Sacramento (even though he is a Sacramento reporter).
If you are looking for decent journo's to read about Sacramento, look towards the following:
Jason Jones & Ailene Voisin - sacbee.com
Adrian Woj - yahoo.com
James Ham - cowbellkingdom.com
Aykis16 & Tony Xypteras - sbnation.com
A few points ahead of the draft
1. Lakers will be making a mistake if they take Okafor above Russell
2. Oliver Hanlan is a late first round steal for whoever picks him up
3. Celtics will trade up for Cauley-Stein
Wow, so many Woj-bombs this morning!
Portland have traded Nic Batum for Noah Vonleh (I really like him) and Gerald Henderson.
Kevin Love has opted out and will visit Boston. If he signs, Paul Pierce will be interested in a return. If Celts don't get Love, Pierce will likely end up with the Clippers.
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Wow, so many Woj-bombs this morning!
Portland have traded Nic Batum for Noah Vonleh (I really like him) and Gerald Henderson.
Kevin Love has opted out and will visit Boston. If he signs, Paul Pierce will be interested in a return. If Celts don't get Love, Pierce will likely end up with the Clippers.
Batum is a wicked pickup for Charlotte, just an excellent glue guy, needs to get that wrist right though so his shooting is on
Andrew Wiggins for nada, not a thing, Cavs have gotta be spewing
Monta Ellis gonna opt out of Dallas
Mavs r allegedly gonna offer Aldridge or Deandre Jordan a max deal
So where does Love end up? Reports seem to be hinting a return to the Cavs, or a move to the Celtics, Lakers or Knicks...
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So where does Love end up? Reports seem to be hinting a return to the Cavs, or a move to the Celtics, Lakers or Knicks...
Yeah, I've only heard that he'll be back with the Cavs.
Jeremy Lamb has been traded for Matt Barnes...apparently he'll still be let go as a free agent, but he's prob I guy the Thunder could use to be honest!
Ive always thought Love was goin to LA been saying it forever, he is a UCLA alum
Jalen Rose needs stfu about Booker we want him at 9 :P
Adrian Wojnarowski â€@WojYahooNBA 8 mins8 minutes ago
Yahoo Sources: Lakers, Kings discuss possible framework of a DeMarcus Cousins trade. Kings exploring elsewhere too.
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http://www.cbssports.com/nba/eye-on-basketball/25222636/report-kings-demarcus-cousins-asked-for-a-trade-a-month-ago (http://www.cbssports.com/nba/eye-on-basketball/25222636/report-kings-demarcus-cousins-asked-for-a-trade-a-month-ago)
That article is a fluff piece based around a tweet by Carmichael Dave. I dont take too much in to Carmichael's articles about Sacramento (even though he is a Sacramento reporter).
If you are looking for decent journo's to read about Sacramento, look towards the following:
Jason Jones & Ailene Voisin - sacbee.com
Adrian Woj - yahoo.com
James Ham - cowbellkingdom.com
Aykis16 & Tony Xypteras - sbnation.com
I'm a big fantasy nut so I tend to get my info 2nd hand off Rotoworld.
Quote from: Jayman on June 25, 2015, 01:36:05 PM
Adrian Wojnarowski â€@WojYahooNBA 8 mins8 minutes ago
Yahoo Sources: Lakers, Kings discuss possible framework of a DeMarcus Cousins trade. Kings exploring elsewhere too.
Offer seems to be Jordan Clarkson, Julius Randle & pick #2 for a DMC package.
http://sports.yahoo.com/news/sources--kings-talking-to-lakers-about-demarcus-cousins-trade--fielding-offers-from-other-teams-030157845.html
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Kings vice president of basketball operations Vlade Divac has pursued a possible deal that would include a bevvy of assets, including the Lakers' No. 2 pick in Thursday's NBA draft, rookies Julius Randle and Jordan Clarkson and other draft assets, league sources told Yahoo Sports. Sacramento also would want to unload the remainder of forward Carl Landry's two years, $13.5 million contract, league sources said.
Minimally, the Lakers have no intention of including Randle in a deal for Cousins, league sources told Yahoo Sports. Randle, a power forward, was the seventh overall pick in the 2014 NBA draft and missed most of his rookie season after leg surgery. The Lakers are reluctant to part with Clarkson too, sources said.
days of our lives shower ???
I hope the Lakers are dumb enough to not realise that any combination of their picks or players is an absolute steal for the most talented big man in the league, who is still young, and on a great contract.
And then while they balk, the Celts come in with a package of Marcus Smart, Kelly Olynyk, Tyler Zeller, Brandon Bass' expiring, Pick 16, and Brooklyn's Unprotected 2018 first round pick. Boom, done deal.
If we had to trade Cousins, I dont mind that deal.
Get a top 5 pick in Julius Randle (crueled by a broken leg in debut game).
Get an all-rookie 1st team guard in Jordan Clarkson.
Get the #2 pick and pick up Okafor/Towns (Most likely Okafor).
Dump a bad contract in Landry (owed ~14m over 2 years)
Means we would have pick #2 (Okafor/Towns) and #6, a young PF & PG. Thats not a bad return ---- IF THERE WAS NO CHOICE BUT TO TRADE.
It's crazy, looking around the internets at thoughts on the trade and the majority of Lakers fans don't want this trade to happen??? DMC is a proven beast and prob the #1 C in the league. Randle and Okafor are two young guns who could sink or swim, but real quality big men don't come along very often. I'd take DMC every day of the week.
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It's crazy, looking around the internets at thoughts on the trade and the majority of Lakers fans don't want this trade to happen??? DMC is a proven beast and prob the #1 C in the league. Randle and Okafor are two young guns who could sink or swim, but real quality big men don't come along very often. I'd take DMC every day of the week.
I agree - I personally want DMC to stay at Sacramento - but like I said, if we have to trade, this isnt a bad one
Way better than the deal offered by Jayman from Boston.... WAY BETTER
What I don't understand, is why this is even a topic of conversation. Who are the idiots in the Kings organisation that think trading DMC is a good idea? He hasn't demanded a trade, so you keep him. Simple.
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It's crazy, looking around the internets at thoughts on the trade and the majority of Lakers fans don't want this trade to happen??? DMC is a proven beast and prob the #1 C in the league. Randle and Okafor are two young guns who could sink or swim, but real quality big men don't come along very often. I'd take DMC every day of the week.
I agree - I personally want DMC to stay at Sacramento - but like I said, if we have to trade, this isnt a bad one
Way better than the deal offered by Jayman from Boston.... WAY BETTER
Yeah if you got those guys in return and DMC is leaving regardless then this is a good deal. Whoever gets DMC needs to build a quality team around him and they are an instant contender. After AD, he's prob the only other C that you'd anchor a team around for a title run. He needs a good SG/SF/PG who is a genuine leader who he can build a good relationship with. That's what DMC is missing, a guy that can lead him and make him better.
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What I don't understand, is why this is even a topic of conversation. Who are the idiots in the Kings organisation that think trading DMC is a good idea? He hasn't demanded a trade, so you keep him. Simple.
From what I am reading... the answer is Coach Karl apparently doesnt want him.
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What I don't understand, is why this is even a topic of conversation. Who are the idiots in the Kings organisation that think trading DMC is a good idea? He hasn't demanded a trade, so you keep him. Simple.
From what I am reading... the answer is Coach Karl apparently doesnt want him.
Hasn't Karl got a history of dumping players he doesn't see eye to eye with?
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Hasn't Karl got a history of dumping players he doesn't see eye to eye with?
Yes he does, which is probably why DMC tweeted the "snake in the grass" emoji's yesterday
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What I don't understand, is why this is even a topic of conversation. Who are the idiots in the Kings organisation that think trading DMC is a good idea? He hasn't demanded a trade, so you keep him. Simple.
From what I am reading... the answer is Coach Karl apparently doesnt want him.
Sure. But where's the logic? I can't see any reason to trade DMC. Might be disrespecting Karl, he's a good coach, but this will be the dumbest move since the Harden trade if the Kings go through with this.
Absolutely will be a dumb move. I want him to stay
I would be happy if we kept DMC and fired Coach Karl (if he is the one requesting DMC to be traded).
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Hasn't Karl got a history of dumping players he doesn't see eye to eye with?
Yes he does, which is probably why DMC tweeted the "snake in the grass" emoji's yesterday
I think I also heard today that he tweeted that he "absolutely" wants to stay in Sacramento?!?
Conversation with a random fan and DMC on twitter
KingJimD: @boogiecousins Do you want to be here?
DeMarcus Cousins: absolutely
KingJimD: That's what we've all been wanting to hear! The media gets in all of our heads and I apologize for letting them get to me
DeMarcus Cousins: Questioning the wrong guy buddy, open your eyes
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Conversation with a random fan and DMC on twitter
KingJimD: @boogiecousins Do you want to be here?
DeMarcus Cousins: absolutely
KingJimD: That's what we've all been wanting to hear! The media gets in all of our heads and I apologize for letting them get to me
DeMarcus Cousins: Questioning the wrong guy buddy, open your eyes
::)
Some more interesting comments in this article (see the tweets at the bottom)
http://www.sactownroyalty.com/2015/6/24/8843419/sacramento-kings-la-lakers-demarcus-cousins-trade-rumor
Worst case scenario, I check my phone after my exam tomorrow to see that the Lakers acquired DeMarcus Cousins, and the Celtics drafted Rondae Hollis-Jefferson.
Best case scenario
Kings get Towns, LeBron and lose DMC and still have pick #6
Anyone watching Mike and Mike will know the answer but this is very interesting
Who is the only player to win a national championship (college) being coached by Coach K and also have won a NBA championship?
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Anyone watching Mike and Mike will know the answer but this is very interesting
Who is the only player to win a national championship (college) being coached by Coach K and also have won a NBA championship?
Battier with the HEAT 8)
Aldridge has told Portland he won't be returning.
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Aldridge has told Portland he won't be returning.
Is there anyway the Cavs can get him now love is gone?
Kings considering about firing Karl George
http://basketball.realgm.com/wiretap/238366/Kings-Considering-Firing-George-Karl
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Kings considering about firing Karl George
http://basketball.realgm.com/wiretap/238366/Kings-Considering-Firing-George-Karl
good thats what i think they should do, gotta keep DmC
I create a new thread just for the draft.
http://blogs.denverpost.com/nuggets/2015/06/25/watch-ty-lawson-smokes-hookah-while-watching-draft-says-im-going-to-sacramento/13040/
the Denver/Sacramento situation is turning into a soap opera, something has gotta give...
How about Kings trade George Karl for Mike Malone ;D
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http://blogs.denverpost.com/nuggets/2015/06/25/watch-ty-lawson-smokes-hookah-while-watching-draft-says-im-going-to-sacramento/13040/
the Denver/Sacramento situation is turning into a soap opera, something has gotta give...
How about Kings trade George Karl for Mike Malone ;D
I would almost take that at this point
The Justise League has landed 8)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9K23eNlK1hs
(http://i.embed.ly/1/display/resize?key=1e6a1a1efdb011df84894040444cdc60&url=https%3A%2F%2Finstagram.com%2Fp%2F4X5cB0ms17%2Fmedia&width=810)
Bill Simmons face when he heard Winslow fell to the Heat
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CDUiEIeUIAEh1fW.jpg)
Just read a tweet that Rudy Gobert now has a standing reach of 9'9"! :o :o :o
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Just read a tweet that Rudy Gobert now has a standing reach of 9'9"! :o :o :o
He's one of, if not my favourite player in the league. Such a beeeaaassstt 8)
really Jayman nothin on the Heat snagging Winslow :D :P :D
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really Jayman nothin on the Heat snagging Winslow :D :P :D
Haha, I've got some notes that I'm going to post soon on the non-Celtic picks :) but I'll give you one word...
STEAL
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really Jayman nothin on the Heat snagging Winslow :D :P :D
Haha, I've got some notes that I'm going to post soon on the non-Celtic picks :) but I'll give you one word... STEAL
haha yeah got very lucky, just stirring you up ;)
Outside of the top 3, Winslow and Hezonja were my favourites.
http://www.makren.tv/s/43ad55b0-6432-4231-97c9-cece7e0c7a1b
Here is the video of Ty Lawson
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Aldridge has told Portland he won't be returning.
Is there anyway the Cavs can get him now love is gone?
In short, yes. But it would have to be in a sign-and-trade, as the Cavs won't have the space to sign him outright.
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Aldridge has told Portland he won't be returning.
Is there anyway the Cavs can get him now love is gone?
In short, yes. But it would have to be in a sign-and-trade, as the Cavs won't have the space to sign him outright.
Aldridge doesnt suit the Cavs game, Thompson does, the Cavs want Deandre Jordan, then your talking about motherflowering rings :-X
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Aldridge has told Portland he won't be returning.
Is there anyway the Cavs can get him now love is gone?
In short, yes. But it would have to be in a sign-and-trade, as the Cavs won't have the space to sign him outright.
Aldridge doesnt suit the Cavs game, Thompson does, the Cavs want Deandre Jordan, then your talking about motherflowering rings :-X
actually your right about that. Jordan would just be lethal.
TT Jordan combo, would just destroy everyone on the boards both offensively and defensively. Lebron could jack up 15 3s a game and get the ball right back.
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Aldridge has told Portland he won't be returning.
Is there anyway the Cavs can get him now love is gone?
In short, yes. But it would have to be in a sign-and-trade, as the Cavs won't have the space to sign him outright.
Aldridge doesnt suit the Cavs game, Thompson does, the Cavs want Deandre Jordan, then your talking about motherflowering rings :-X
Agreed. You know what team does suit Aldridge's game? The team apparently the #1 on his list - Spurs. Him and Timmy would just be sick 8) cap wise it would probably mean they would have to find a suitor for Splitter and let Danny Green walk.. But for Aldridge it's probably worth it :o
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Aldridge has told Portland he won't be returning.
Is there anyway the Cavs can get him now love is gone?
In short, yes. But it would have to be in a sign-and-trade, as the Cavs won't have the space to sign him outright.
Aldridge doesnt suit the Cavs game, Thompson does, the Cavs want Deandre Jordan, then your talking about motherflowering rings :-X
Agreed. You know what team does suit Aldridge's game? The team apparently the #1 on his list - Spurs. Him and Timmy would just be sick 8) cap wise it would probably mean they would have to find a suitor for Splitter and let Danny Green walk.. But for Aldridge it's probably worth it :o
tbh its a sensational add on paper, only on paper...
again Deandre, Spurs have a ton of offense already and Jordan doesnt need it fed to him
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Aldridge has told Portland he won't be returning.
Is there anyway the Cavs can get him now love is gone?
In short, yes. But it would have to be in a sign-and-trade, as the Cavs won't have the space to sign him outright.
Aldridge doesnt suit the Cavs game, Thompson does, the Cavs want Deandre Jordan, then your talking about motherflowering rings :-X
Agreed. You know what team does suit Aldridge's game? The team apparently the #1 on his list - Spurs. Him and Timmy would just be sick 8) cap wise it would probably mean they would have to find a suitor for Splitter and let Danny Green walk.. But for Aldridge it's probably worth it :o
tbh its a sensational add on paper, only on paper...
again Deandre, Spurs have a ton of offense already and Jordan doesnt need it fed to him
Don't see it as a realistic option? :-X
Let's just say that if I were a team in the west, I'd be very, very worried.
Surely we get Lamarcus so long as the techniques work. Would be the perfect fit for both him and the team.
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Aldridge has told Portland he won't be returning.
Is there anyway the Cavs can get him now love is gone?
In short, yes. But it would have to be in a sign-and-trade, as the Cavs won't have the space to sign him outright.
Aldridge doesnt suit the Cavs game, Thompson does, the Cavs want Deandre Jordan, then your talking about motherflowering rings :-X
Agreed. You know what team does suit Aldridge's game? The team apparently the #1 on his list - Spurs. Him and Timmy would just be sick 8) cap wise it would probably mean they would have to find a suitor for Splitter and let Danny Green walk.. But for Aldridge it's probably worth it :o
tbh its a sensational add on paper, only on paper...
again Deandre, Spurs have a ton of offense already and Jordan doesnt need it fed to him
Don't see it as a realistic option? :-X
Let's just say that if I were a team in the west, I'd be very, very worried.
reasons?
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Aldridge has told Portland he won't be returning.
Is there anyway the Cavs can get him now love is gone?
In short, yes. But it would have to be in a sign-and-trade, as the Cavs won't have the space to sign him outright.
Aldridge doesnt suit the Cavs game, Thompson does, the Cavs want Deandre Jordan, then your talking about motherflowering rings :-X
Agreed. You know what team does suit Aldridge's game? The team apparently the #1 on his list - Spurs. Him and Timmy would just be sick 8) cap wise it would probably mean they would have to find a suitor for Splitter and let Danny Green walk.. But for Aldridge it's probably worth it :o
tbh its a sensational add on paper, only on paper...
again Deandre, Spurs have a ton of offense already and Jordan doesnt need it fed to him
Don't see it as a realistic option? :-X
Let's just say that if I were a team in the west, I'd be very, very worried.
reasons?
Because it's possible for them to clear enough room to sign him. Then you've got a top 10 player going to a top 3 team. Rings.
Firstly, it's believed that Duncan will return and sign a 2-year deal worth roughly 6-7 million in the first year (he's taken major discounts before, he'll do it again.) http://www.cbssports.com/nba/eye-on-basketball/25226344/report-duncan-will-return-at-discount-to-help-spurs-chase-lamarcus-aldridge
The next step is Manu signing for the room exception, worth 2.8 million. Once they dump the Splitter contract and move Patty Mills (shouldn't be too hard - they are good players). Boom, that's 21 million in cap space - enough to offer Aldridge the max. And that's keeping Danny Green.
However, if they choose to let Danny Green walk, and the above guys sign for the aforementioned amounts, it becomes a whole lot easier. All they need to do is trade Mills and Anderson in order for them being able to pay Aldridge the max. I prefer this option, Splitter gives them a real solid defensive big man that they might need to play next to Aldridge (Duncan only plays 30 minutes these days).
Whenever a player as good as Aldridge is rumoured to be going to an already elite team, it's easy to scoff at it, but in this case... It's a very realistic scenario.
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Aldridge has told Portland he won't be returning.
Is there anyway the Cavs can get him now love is gone?
In short, yes. But it would have to be in a sign-and-trade, as the Cavs won't have the space to sign him outright.
Aldridge doesnt suit the Cavs game, Thompson does, the Cavs want Deandre Jordan, then your talking about motherflowering rings :-X
Agreed. You know what team does suit Aldridge's game? The team apparently the #1 on his list - Spurs. Him and Timmy would just be sick 8) cap wise it would probably mean they would have to find a suitor for Splitter and let Danny Green walk.. But for Aldridge it's probably worth it :o
tbh its a sensational add on paper, only on paper...
again Deandre, Spurs have a ton of offense already and Jordan doesnt need it fed to him
Don't see it as a realistic option? :-X
Let's just say that if I were a team in the west, I'd be very, very worried.
reasons?
Because it's possible for them to clear enough room to sign him. Then you've got a top 10 player going to a top 3 team. Rings.
Firstly, it's believed that Duncan will return and sign a 2-year deal worth roughly 6-7 million in the first year (he's taken major discounts before, he'll do it again.) http://www.cbssports.com/nba/eye-on-basketball/25226344/report-duncan-will-return-at-discount-to-help-spurs-chase-lamarcus-aldridge
The next step is Manu signing for the room exception, worth 2.8 million. Once they dump the Splitter contract and move Patty Mills (shouldn't be too hard - they are good players). Boom, that's 21 million in cap space - enough to offer Aldridge the max. And that's keeping Danny Green.
However, if they choose to let Danny Green walk, and the above guys sign for the aforementioned amounts, it becomes a whole lot easier. All they need to do is trade Mills and Anderson in order for them being able to pay Aldridge the max. I prefer this option, Splitter gives them a real solid defensive big man that they might need to play next to Aldridge (Duncan only plays 30 minutes these days).
Whenever a player as good as Aldridge is rumoured to be going to an already elite team, it's easy to scoff at it, but in this case... It's a very realistic scenario.
yeah i get why they r chasing Aldridge i thought u were talking about Deandre "Don't see it as a realistic option? :-X"
Oh right.. Yeah I hadn't really considered DJ moving teams.. He gets to catch lobs from the best pg in the league. I fear that if he went somewhere else, he'd be exposed offensively.
Quote from: Jayman on June 29, 2015, 10:28:28 AM
Oh right.. Yeah I hadn't really considered DJ moving teams.. He gets to catch lobs from the best pg in the league. I fear that if he went somewhere else, he'd be exposed offensively.
Don't think he actually wants any lobs from that guy any more. I could see him going across the way to the Lakers to be honest! Imagine the rivalry then!!!
Heard a few rumours that Danny Green is the one who's going to make room for Aldridge. Spurs are going to be ridic with Timmy, Aldridge and Kawhi.
Its being reported that the Lakers are still interested in Cousins. Apparently the Kings still want the same deal
#2 pick (D'Angelo Russell)
Julius Randle
Jordan Clarkson
+Future Picks
As much as I dont want this to happen it would give us an exciting young core to build upon
WCS
Randle
Gay
McLemore
Russell
Lakers could then go and sign Rondo as a free agent and have
Cousins
?
?
Kobe
Rondo
Definitely very interesting
Expecting Rondo, Cousins and Kobe to all get along is pretty ;D
Would love that deal as a Kings fan tbh. Wouldn't touch it as a Laker.
Quote from: My Chumps on June 29, 2015, 11:22:41 AM
Expecting Rondo, Cousins and Kobe to all get along is pretty ;D
This ^
A non-shooting, ball dominant guard next to Kobe is asking for trouble.
What is the dream scenario for your team this off-season? Keep it realistic..
Boston Celtics
1. Sign Greg Monroe - he is unrestricted, and will be leaving Detroit. Would become the 1a or 1b (depending on how you feel about Isaiah Thomas) on the team as soon as he walks in the door. I think he could be sold on being a top offensive option, for a great young coach wanting to make the playoffs consistently. We can offer him a max contract, and with the salary cap rising next year, it won't look like an overpay at all. He split his minutes half and half between centre and power forward last season - when he was playing centre he had a PER of 26.8. Puts him right up there with the upper-tier of big men
2. Monroe has two major flaws, he doesn't stretch the floor at all on offense, nor does he protect the rim on defense. That means he is best utilized next to a player who can do both of those things. Unfortunately, they are hard to find - only Serge Ibaka really comes to mind. But I'd be happy to settle with signing Josh Smith. At least drags some of the defense away from Monroe, and then on defense his atheticism makes him a real plus on that end.
3. Trade for Danilo Gallinari. Nuggets drafting Mudiay means they'll likely trade Lawson, and therefore, start their rebuild. At 26 years old and not too far away from unrestricted free agency - Danilo doesn't make much sense for them to keep, and it was reported he'd been put on the trading block. If it takes a late-first round pick, or Sullinger/Olynyk to get him - I pull the trigger. He's a really talented offensive player with great size, a shooting stroke, and the ability to put it on the floor.
4. Re-sign Jae Crowder. Let Brandon Bass walk. Crowder showed late in the season, and in the playoffs that he's a very solid NBA player. High motor, great competitiveness, tough defense and an improving 3-point shot. Bass has been great for us, giving 100% every night, but he doesn't fit anymore. Let him come off the bench for a contender, it would be best for both parties.
Leaves us with a starting five of:
Isaiah Thomas, Marcus Smart, Danilo Gallinari, Josh Smith, Greg Monroe
And a bench of:
Avery Bradley, Terry Rozier, Evan Turner, Jae Crowder, Jared Sullinger/Kelly Olynyk, Tyler Zeller.
That team could possibly win a playoff series, upping our reputation for future free agents. And we can get to the above situation without giving up our great assets - picks. In the next draft, we'll have our own pick, Brooklyn's pick, Memphis' pick and Dallas' pick. Plus cap space since Wallace's contract will come off the books.
Kings: KEEP DMC
The end
Heat draft Justise Winslow :D
Quote from: Jayman on June 29, 2015, 12:25:56 PM
Quote from: My Chumps on June 29, 2015, 11:22:41 AM
Expecting Rondo, Cousins and Kobe to all get along is pretty ;D
This ^
A non-shooting, ball dominant guard next to Kobe is asking for trouble.
I actually think Kobe is looking for Rondo, someone to get him shots, he keeps getting injured creating his own.
Quote from: valkorum on June 29, 2015, 11:17:38 AM
Its being reported that the Lakers are still interested in Cousins. Apparently the Kings still want the same deal
#2 pick (D'Angelo Russell)
Julius Randle
Jordan Clarkson
+Future Picks
As much as I dont want this to happen it would give us an exciting young core to build upon
WCS
Randle
Gay
McLemore
Russell
Lakers could then go and sign Rondo as a free agent and have
Cousins
?
?
Kobe
Rondo
Definitely very interesting
yeah i actually really like this for The Kings, future picks being the key ingredient
Thought you might have mentioned re-signing Wade.. :o
Quote from: Jayman on June 29, 2015, 04:25:11 PM
What is the dream scenario for your team this off-season? Keep it realistic..
Boston Celtics
1. Sign Greg Monroe - he is unrestricted, and will be leaving Detroit. Would become the 1a or 1b (depending on how you feel about Isaiah Thomas) on the team as soon as he walks in the door. I think he could be sold on being a top offensive option, for a great young coach wanting to make the playoffs consistently. We can offer him a max contract, and with the salary cap rising next year, it won't look like an overpay at all. He split his minutes half and half between centre and power forward last season - when he was playing centre he had a PER of 26.8. Puts him right up there with the upper-tier of big men
2. Monroe has two major flaws, he doesn't stretch the floor at all on offense, nor does he protect the rim on defense. That means he is best utilized next to a player who can do both of those things. Unfortunately, they are hard to find - only Serge Ibaka really comes to mind. But I'd be happy to settle with signing Josh Smith. At least drags some of the defense away from Monroe, and then on defense his atheticism makes him a real plus on that end.
3. Trade for Danilo Gallinari. Nuggets drafting Mudiay means they'll likely trade Lawson, and therefore, start their rebuild. At 26 years old and not too far away from unrestricted free agency - Danilo doesn't make much sense for them to keep, and it was reported he'd been put on the trading block. If it takes a late-first round pick, or Sullinger/Olynyk to get him - I pull the trigger. He's a really talented offensive player with great size, a shooting stroke, and the ability to put it on the floor.
4. Re-sign Jae Crowder. Let Brandon Bass walk. Crowder showed late in the season, and in the playoffs that he's a very solid NBA player. High motor, great competitiveness, tough defense and an improving 3-point shot. Bass has been great for us, giving 100% every night, but he doesn't fit anymore. Let him come off the bench for a contender, it would be best for both parties.
Leaves us with a starting five of:
Isaiah Thomas, Marcus Smart, Danilo Gallinari, Josh Smith, Greg Monroe
And a bench of:
Avery Bradley, Terry Rozier, Evan Turner, Jae Crowder, Jared Sullinger/Kelly Olynyk, Tyler Zeller.
That team could possibly win a playoff series, upping our reputation for future free agents. And we can get to the above situation without giving up our great assets - picks. In the next draft, we'll have our own pick, Brooklyn's pick, Memphis' pick and Dallas' pick. Plus cap space since Wallace's contract will come off the books.
As a Celts fan, please no Josh Smith... Love the Gallo pick though, really like him as a player
Haha I strangely like Josh Smith.. Got so overrated that he kinda become underrated :P
Embiid out for Summer League per Hinkie. Says the issue is strange because Embiid feels 100%
There was a radio interview with Hinkie post draft
Everything was fine (MRIs showed proper healing) and he was playing games in the gym pretty much full go with no pain for a few weeks, then they went to get one more precautionary MRI for summer league and something didn't look right. He's been to NY to see a specialist and is now heading to NC to get another specialist's opinion.
and this https://youtu.be/2LckiKil7_Q
Quote from: Jayman on June 29, 2015, 07:12:03 PM
Thought you might have mentioned re-signing Wade.. :o
i dont think anyone is taking him leaving seriously, i dont think anyone will pay him more than us, if he goes it frees up a heap of cap :-X
Quote from: Mat0369 on June 29, 2015, 08:42:24 PM
and this https://youtu.be/2LckiKil7_Q
I love him. But I'm waiting for the "injures his left knee while bowling" headline :P he just screams Bynum..
Quote from: Jayman on June 29, 2015, 09:04:12 PM
I love him. But I'm waiting for the "injures his left knee while bowling" headline :P he just screams Bynum..
He is a completely different beast to Bynum. He is the Jesse Hogan of the NBA
Quote from: Mat0369 on June 29, 2015, 09:06:02 PM
Quote from: Jayman on June 29, 2015, 09:04:12 PM
I love him. But I'm waiting for the "injures his left knee while bowling" headline :P he just screams Bynum..
He is a completely different beast to Bynum. He is the Jesse Hogan of the NBA
We all think that, until they get injured bowling :P
w0w Deng stayed, Wade opted out, he thinks he has the power but would we consider doing the dirty on him and not offering him a contract? would we low ball the 16m he could have made?
thoughts on this being a fair enough punishment
http://www.philly.com/philly/sports/sixers/76ers_ordered_to_pay_Pelicans_3_million_for_not_disclosing_Holidays_injuries.html
Quote from: RiOtChEsS on June 30, 2015, 10:02:06 AM
thoughts on this being a fair enough punishment
http://www.philly.com/philly/sports/sixers/76ers_ordered_to_pay_Pelicans_3_million_for_not_disclosing_Holidays_injuries.html
not really, give them Noel back :)
imagine Noel Davis it would be block city.
Quote from: RiOtChEsS on June 30, 2015, 10:02:06 AM
thoughts on this being a fair enough punishment
http://www.philly.com/philly/sports/sixers/76ers_ordered_to_pay_Pelicans_3_million_for_not_disclosing_Holidays_injuries.html
Don't think it's fair at all. $3m is negligible in the scheme of things! Read a good article on it a couple of days back saying why they should've been payed a lot more, I'll try dig it up.
Quote from: RiOtChEsS on June 30, 2015, 09:07:28 AM
w0w Deng stayed, Wade opted out, he thinks he has the power but would we consider doing the dirty on him and not offering him a contract? would we low ball the 16m he could have made?
I feel like a lot of FA signings depend on the reputation of the team - and Miami sure would lose a lot of it by not paying Wade. :-X
Quote from: Holz on June 30, 2015, 01:43:17 PM
Quote from: RiOtChEsS on June 30, 2015, 10:02:06 AM
thoughts on this being a fair enough punishment
http://www.philly.com/philly/sports/sixers/76ers_ordered_to_pay_Pelicans_3_million_for_not_disclosing_Holidays_injuries.html
not really, give them Noel back :)
imagine Noel Davis it would be block city.
Quote from: Toga on June 30, 2015, 07:22:21 PM
Quote from: RiOtChEsS on June 30, 2015, 10:02:06 AM
thoughts on this being a fair enough punishment
http://www.philly.com/philly/sports/sixers/76ers_ordered_to_pay_Pelicans_3_million_for_not_disclosing_Holidays_injuries.html
Don't think it's fair at all. $3m is negligible in the scheme of things! Read a good article on it a couple of days back saying why they should've been payed a lot more, I'll try dig it up.
agreed there needs to be something hefty in the way of a first round pick with possibility of worse if it happened again
Quote from: Jayman on June 30, 2015, 07:50:42 PM
Quote from: RiOtChEsS on June 30, 2015, 09:07:28 AM
w0w Deng stayed, Wade opted out, he thinks he has the power but would we consider doing the dirty on him and not offering him a contract? would we low ball the 16m he could have made?
I feel like a lot of FA signings depend on the reputation of the team - and Miami sure would lose a lot of it by not paying Wade. :-X
from what i understand Pat has made him a boat load of cash outside of basketball, that should bring kudos enough from other players looking at our organisation.
why he has opted out of a 16m year to seek a deal that is 3 years and at best gonna net him 16m a year makes me think he feels he will breakdown this coming season and wont be able to get that sort of money next year, he has
missed 48 games in 2 seasons, on that sort of output he is the highest paid player in the NBA, why he cant go to Riley and say hey how about some more cash filtered to me by other means, my 130m ive made from basketball has me feeling a little broke ::) something is going on here im leaning towards he doesnt have confidence in his body
I know it's about sentimentality and all that, but Wade doesn't even fit the Heat's lineup :-X I'd take the 16m cap space in a heartbeat.
Think of it as a Paul Pierce situation; he leaves, but still a lot of respect from both sides and still a Celtic/Heat player at heart.
Al Farouq Aminu 4-year 30 million dollar deal with Portland. I like him but :o
Quote from: Jayman on July 01, 2015, 04:25:45 PM
Al Farouq Aminu 4-year 30 million dollar deal with Portland. I like him but :o
That is huge money for someone who hasn't done anything. The potential is surely there and might finally get the chance at Portland with Aldridge, Afflalo, Batum and Matthews all but gone.
Other signings:
Anthony Davis - 5 years $145 million and worth every penny
Kawhi Leonard - 5 years at $90 million, Spurs got a steal here
Thad Young - 4 years at $50 million
NOP would be absolutely stoked to lock away AD! Big pay rise for him 8)
Quote from: jvalles69 on July 01, 2015, 04:37:56 PM
Quote from: Jayman on July 01, 2015, 04:25:45 PM
Al Farouq Aminu 4-year 30 million dollar deal with Portland. I like him but :o
That is huge money for someone who hasn't done anything. The potential is surely there and might finally get the chance at Portland with Aldridge, Afflalo, Batum and Matthews all but gone.
And I think this is just the start of it.. With the salary cap projected to take a huge rise next year with the new TV deal kicking in, deals that seem like an overpay now will actually be pretty good value in the future.
Quote from: Jayman on July 01, 2015, 08:12:24 PM
Quote from: jvalles69 on July 01, 2015, 04:37:56 PM
Quote from: Jayman on July 01, 2015, 04:25:45 PM
Al Farouq Aminu 4-year 30 million dollar deal with Portland. I like him but :o
That is huge money for someone who hasn't done anything. The potential is surely there and might finally get the chance at Portland with Aldridge, Afflalo, Batum and Matthews all but gone.
And I think this is just the start of it.. With the salary cap projected to take a huge rise next year with the new TV deal kicking in, deals that seem like an overpay now will actually be pretty good value in the future.
even still, he hasnt proved to be good starter, that is big money
Quote from: My Chumps on July 01, 2015, 12:56:23 PM
I know it's about sentimentality and all that, but Wade doesn't even fit the Heat's lineup :-X I'd take the 16m cap space in a heartbeat.
Think of it as a Paul Pierce situation; he leaves, but still a lot of respect from both sides and still a Celtic/Heat player at heart.
yeah i agree, im wouldnt be fussed if he left, id expect us to go after Monta Ellis or a Wesley Matthews if he is gone
Miami wouldn't want to fork out too much money now, with Whiteside hitting free agency next season.
Quote from: Jayman on July 01, 2015, 11:27:04 PM
Miami wouldn't want to fork out too much money now, with Whiteside hitting free agency next season.
word is Wade is gonna get a 22m max 1 year deal, keeps it flexible for next year 8)
Dragic agreed to 5 yr deal 8)
Love has agreed to Cavs 5 yr deal :o
http://espn.go.com/nba/story/_/id/13181983/kevin-love-agrees-five-year-110-million-contract-cleveland-cavaliers
http://espn.go.com/nba/story/_/id/13181032/san-antonio-spurs-trade-tiago-splitter-atlanta-hawks
http://espn.go.com/los-angeles/nba/story/_/id/13184015/free-agent-lamarcus-aldridge-not-impressed-los-angeles-lakers-presentation
http://espn.go.com/chicago/nba/story/_/id/13181943/jimmy-butler-chicago-bulls-agree-five-year-90-million-deal
damn i cant remember the last time somebody was impressed with a Lakers presentation :D
god damn they were just showing how far over the cap the Cavs are gonna be :o
up around 110m with a luxury tax between 50-90m :o
Quote from: RiOtChEsS on July 02, 2015, 09:25:38 AM
god damn they were just showing how far over the cap the Cavs are gonna be :o
up around 110m with a luxury tax between 50-90m :o
went a little cold on love but he is a great player, he just needs to fit into the structure. Kind of happy when ended up getting a allstar long term for wiggins. Not sure who we will lose now, it better not be TT or mozgof. Maybe varejo?
Love now my boy, go get them love.
Some more news. Probably forgot some.
- Tyson Chandler signs with Phoenix
- Splitter traded to Atlanta so they can free up space for Aldridge. They are still the frontrunners.
- Demare Carroll has signed with Toronto
- Spurs re-sign Danny Green
- Pacers nearing a 3-year deal with Monta Ellis
- Atlanta re-sign Milsapp after Orlando extended him a max offer
- Boston signs Amir Johnson
- Kings expressing interest in Rondo
And the biggest impact on the title race so far:
- Paul Pierce has signed with the Clippers
HUGE get for them. Finally they have a solid wing who can shoot, play D, at either forward position.
Quote from: Holz on July 02, 2015, 09:32:49 AM
Quote from: RiOtChEsS on July 02, 2015, 09:25:38 AM
god damn they were just showing how far over the cap the Cavs are gonna be :o
up around 110m with a luxury tax between 50-90m :o
went a little cold on love but he is a great player, he just needs to fit into the structure. Kind of happy when ended up getting a allstar long term for wiggins. Not sure who we will lose now, it better not be TT or mozgof. Maybe varejo?
Love now my boy, go get them love.
they can keep em all just gotta pay the luxury, word is they will look to trade Haywood's 10m expiring contract
And Cavs sign Shumpert to a 4yr/$40m contract. Doing well to keep most of their pieces so far
Dragic apparently worked with Riley to make room to re sign Wade, good move, classy move 8)
Lebron should just play for pennies so they can build a team for him. He will get paid enough in endorsements
So its a 3-year 10 million dollar deal. #steal
http://basketball.realgm.com/wiretap/238542/Paul-Pierce-Agrees-To-Sign-Three-Year-$10M-Deal-With-Clippers
Would not be surprised if Ray Allen considers joining them now too.
Quote from: Jayman on July 02, 2015, 10:29:29 AM
So its a 3-year 10 million dollar deal. #steal
http://basketball.realgm.com/wiretap/238542/Paul-Pierce-Agrees-To-Sign-Three-Year-$10M-Deal-With-Clippers
Would not be surprised if Ray Allen considers joining them now too.
that would impress me
Quote from: Jayman on July 02, 2015, 10:29:29 AM
So its a 3-year 10 million dollar deal. #steal
http://basketball.realgm.com/wiretap/238542/Paul-Pierce-Agrees-To-Sign-Three-Year-$10M-Deal-With-Clippers
Would not be surprised if Ray Allen considers joining them now too.
I heard that PP would only sign with the Clippers if Deandre Jordan stayed? Sign of another signing?
Quote from: Jayman on July 02, 2015, 10:29:29 AM
So its a 3-year 10 million dollar deal. #steal
http://basketball.realgm.com/wiretap/238542/Paul-Pierce-Agrees-To-Sign-Three-Year-$10M-Deal-With-Clippers
Would not be surprised if Ray Allen considers joining them now too.
watch this call.
im now a pierce fan. All is forgiven I love you PP give me a ring.
Brandon Wright has signed with Memphis for 3 years @ $18 million. Great backup there.
Cavs reportedly close to an $80m deal with TT!
Quote from: Toga on July 02, 2015, 12:30:29 PM
Cavs reportedly close to an $80m deal with TT!
looks like they are spending the cash im very happy
TT Love Shumpert James Irving thats a good core, just mozgov to go
Quote from: Holz on July 02, 2015, 12:46:09 PM
Quote from: Toga on July 02, 2015, 12:30:29 PM
Cavs reportedly close to an $80m deal with TT!
looks like they are spending the cash im very happy
TT Love Shumpert James Irving thats a good core, just mozgov to go
They accepted Mozgov's team option from what I heard. Think that pays him about 4-5 million. Bargain.
Quote from: Jayman on July 02, 2015, 02:09:35 PM
Quote from: Holz on July 02, 2015, 12:46:09 PM
Quote from: Toga on July 02, 2015, 12:30:29 PM
Cavs reportedly close to an $80m deal with TT!
looks like they are spending the cash im very happy
TT Love Shumpert James Irving thats a good core, just mozgov to go
They accepted Mozgov's team option from what I heard. Think that pays him about 4-5 million. Bargain.
Yeah I saw that and Varejo picked up for 9.7M
if they can stay fit TT Varejo Love Mozgov thats an amazingly deep front court that you can basically play a number of different ways.
Irving James Shumpert good back court, probably needs abit more depth though. I reckon Jr is gone and who knows on delly.
Yes! Jae Crowder has re-signed on a 5-year 35 million dollar deal. This will look like a bargain next season. Really solid player, definitely earned that money.
Also, Omir Asik has re-signed with New Orleans at 5 years 60 million. Surprising since they just re-signed Ajinca yesterday? Having both just doesn't make sense.
And Philly have done it again >:( 76ers acquire Nik Staukas (was pick 8 in the 2014 draft) in exchange for taking on the salaries of Carl Landry and Jason Thompson. They weren't going to use their cap space anyway so may as well get a good young prospect. And now Sacremento have the space to overpay Rondo who will fit terribly with the team. Nice one, Kings!
And on top of that Philly receive a pick upgrade from the Kings!? You have got to be flowering kidding me.
Sacremento really making a case for the most dysfunctional franchise in all of sports.
Oh and the deal also sends Philly the right to swap picks in two future drafts. Seriously, this is the worst trade since the James Harden deal.
The Kings should just be disbanded if they continue this shower.
It's explained more here: http://www.sbnation.com/nba/2015/7/2/8882241/kings-trade-salary-cap-space-draft-terrible
Quote from: Jayman on July 02, 2015, 04:01:19 PM
Oh and the deal also sends Philly the right to swap picks in two future drafts. Seriously, this is the worst trade since the James Harden deal.
The Kings should just be disbanded if they continue this shower.
It's explained more here: http://www.sbnation.com/nba/2015/7/2/8882241/kings-trade-salary-cap-space-draft-terrible
Seatle here we come! ;)
Quote from: RiOtChEsS on July 01, 2015, 09:49:52 AM
Quote from: Toga on June 30, 2015, 07:22:21 PM
Quote from: RiOtChEsS on June 30, 2015, 10:02:06 AM
thoughts on this being a fair enough punishment
http://www.philly.com/philly/sports/sixers/76ers_ordered_to_pay_Pelicans_3_million_for_not_disclosing_Holidays_injuries.html
Don't think it's fair at all. $3m is negligible in the scheme of things! Read a good article on it a couple of days back saying why they should've been payed a lot more, I'll try dig it up.
agreed there needs to be something hefty in the way of a first round pick with possibility of worse if it happened again
Here's the article I was talking about:
http://www.thebirdwrites.com/2015/6/28/8858415/sixers-pelicans-jrue-holiday-nerlens-noel-hinkie-demps
Quote from: Jayman on July 02, 2015, 04:01:19 PM
Oh and the deal also sends Philly the right to swap picks in two future drafts. Seriously, this is the worst trade since the James Harden deal.
The Kings should just be disbanded if they continue this shower.
It's explained more here: http://www.sbnation.com/nba/2015/7/2/8882241/kings-trade-salary-cap-space-draft-terrible
All depends who we get from FA
I think we can agree that we both dont want Rondo, but Monta and Matthews would be very nice
Quote from: valkorum on July 02, 2015, 08:04:36 PM
Quote from: Jayman on July 02, 2015, 04:01:19 PM
Oh and the deal also sends Philly the right to swap picks in two future drafts. Seriously, this is the worst trade since the James Harden deal.
The Kings should just be disbanded if they continue this shower.
It's explained more here: http://www.sbnation.com/nba/2015/7/2/8882241/kings-trade-salary-cap-space-draft-terrible
All depends who we get from FA
I think we can agree that we both dont want Rondo, but Monta and Matthews would be very nice
Correct. But Monta and Rudy on the same team would just be a disaster - both high usage guys that would take touches away from Boogie.
Matthews is good, yes. But he might help you win, maybe, 8 extra games next year? So you finish 10th in the West rather than 13th... I just cannot wrap my head around how anyone with half a brain can think this was a good idea.
Kings get: Rights to Arturas Gudaitis and Luka Mitrovic
76ers get: Guard Nik Stauskas, forwards Carl Landry and Jason Thompson, a top-10 protected pick beginning two years after the conclusion of the Kings' obligation to the Chicago Bulls, two future pick swaps
How Hinkie brainwashed the Kings in getting to add MULTIPLE pick considerations in this deal is beyond me. It was only LAST YEAR that they took Stauskas with pick 8, and now dump him + more, for the chance to maybe sign a slightly above average free agent.. And why not just wait until you have a commitment from the free agent before making the deal. Just incompetent. And it pisses me off how Philly are brainwashing teams like this, while Boston are flowered because we actually tried to field a competitive team last year. Until the lottery system is changed, tanking is and will always be the best option which sucks - this deal is another example of this.
I have no problem with Landry and Thompson getting offloaded for a salary dump. From what I read 76'ers wanted Stauskis (who was ordinary for us) and we said as long as you take the salary back.
Landry has barely played a game in 3 seasons and is on $6m a season. Jason Thompson just doesn't fit next to Cousins (and never has), he also is only about $6m and the season after isn't guaranteed from memory. We've been trying to trade Jason Thompson for a few seasons now but his contract just plain sucks.
The only part of the deal that upsets me is the pick swaps but maybe we did that to get the rights of the Mitrovic and Gudaitis. Divac spent a lot of time watching a lot of European players before coming to Sacramento's back office. Maybe he knows something we don't.
With the salary dump we have about $26m in salary cap space. More than enough for 2 good FA's
Another report has us interested in Patrick Beverley - would be happy to have him and Matthews. If you can't tell I would like to get Matthews. 3 & D is something we really need.
Guard Rotations: Beverley, Collison, McLemore, Matthews, McCallum, Miller
Forward Rotations: Gay, WCS, DMC, Casspi (should return), Derrick Williams (will be cheap FA), Eric Moreland
Just need another backup big guy
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rEN6ad_Aw-M
Quote from: Jayman on July 02, 2015, 10:13:26 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rEN6ad_Aw-M
I would like to see the 2011 draft war room when we moved down the order to "secure" Jimmer Fredette. That was a bad decision
Apparently the Kings just offered Wesley Matthews a 3 year $45m deal. His preferred destination is Mav's (allegedly)
Wes Matthews has signed with the Mavericks. Luckily Sacremento used basically all their assets to free up cap space ::)
Quote from: Jayman on July 03, 2015, 03:29:41 PM
Wes Matthews has signed with the Mavericks. Luckily Sacremento used basically all their assets to free up cap space ::)
Good call by Wes especially since Sacramento I think were offering $3 million more per year and an extra year. Big money for a guy coming off an even bigger injury. Wes is a gun though if the injury doesn't effect him.
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God ^^
Quote from: Jayman on July 02, 2015, 04:01:19 PM
Oh and the deal also sends Philly the right to swap picks in two future drafts. Seriously, this is the worst trade since the James Harden deal.
The Kings should just be disbanded if they continue this shower.
It's explained more here: http://www.sbnation.com/nba/2015/7/2/8882241/kings-trade-salary-cap-space-draft-terrible
You know who orchestrated the Harden deal?
Quote from: Mat0369 on July 03, 2015, 03:55:34 PM
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God ^^
Quote from: Mat0369 on July 03, 2015, 03:58:01 PM
Quote from: Jayman on July 02, 2015, 04:01:19 PM
Oh and the deal also sends Philly the right to swap picks in two future drafts. Seriously, this is the worst trade since the James Harden deal.
The Kings should just be disbanded if they continue this shower.
It's explained more here: http://www.sbnation.com/nba/2015/7/2/8882241/kings-trade-salary-cap-space-draft-terrible
You know who orchestrated the Harden deal?
Quote from: Mat0369 on July 03, 2015, 03:55:34 PM
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God ^^
Seeing him (a rival GM in our division) brainwash incompetent teams like this just depresses me as a Celtics fan.
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Quote from: Jayman on July 03, 2015, 04:03:35 PM
Seeing him (a rival GM in our division) brainwash incompetent teams like this just depresses me as a Celtics fan.
He is amazing. They needed some outside shooting and that is what Stauskas brings. Saric comes over next year so they get their small forward, all they need is a PG and the cap room starts to free up.
The core will look like this
PG: TBD
SG: Stauskas
SF: Saric
PF: Embiid
C: Noel
You can rotate Okafor through there or even package one of the big guys in a deal for a star.
Quote from: Mat0369 on July 03, 2015, 04:18:12 PM
Quote from: Jayman on July 03, 2015, 04:03:35 PM
Seeing him (a rival GM in our division) brainwash incompetent teams like this just depresses me as a Celtics fan.
He is amazing. They needed some outside shooting and that is what Stauskas brings. Saric comes over next year so they get their small forward, all they need is a PG and the cap room starts to free up.
The core will look like this
PG: TBD
SG: Stauskas
SF: Saric
PF: Embiid
C: Noel
You can rotate Okafor through there or even package one of the big guys in a deal for a star.
its taking a while they just need to get into a winning culture and could explode. maybe another top 10 pick this year though
Pat Riley is meeting with Aldridge :o word is he is proposing a sign and trade to Portland for Bosh, then Aldridge gets a 5 year max :o
Quote from: RiOtChEsS on July 03, 2015, 06:39:15 PM
Pat Riley is meeting with Aldridge :o word is he is proposing a sign and trade to Portland for Bosh, then Aldridge gets a 5 year max :o
got the Heat for the ring @76/1 a few weeks ago, into 36/1 now
I'm sorry, but I'm still not over this absolute fleecing of the Kings. If they desperately wanted to push for wins next year, why not just offer the EXACT same package to Denver for Ty Lawson? You can bet your bottom dollar that Denver would have jumped all over that. Would much rather Lawson than the CHANCE of signing a free agent. And look what happened, their targets: Wes Mathews and Monta Ellis have both signed with rival teams.
Or how about learning how to use the stretch provision. Which is when waiving a player, you can stretch the number of years they stay on your books, and at a reduced cap number. That would still have freed up enough cap space.
And what if Cousins does end up demanding a trade, suddenly all the pick swaps look in massive favour of Philly, who in the east could end up being better than Sacremento in a year or two.
While my team is drafting guys with 2nd round talent, and signing Amir Johnson - Philly pull this off. Unbelievable.
Quote from: Holz on July 03, 2015, 04:19:58 PM
its taking a while they just need to get into a winning culture and could explode. maybe another top 10 pick this year though
Hinkie has managed to do this in two seasons of actual games being played. The plan was 2-3 years of bottoming out and then use the all the assets they have acquired to get as much talent as possible. Brown has also been really good with the group, you are seeing improvement from these guys.
And Jay
Quote from: Mat0369 on July 03, 2015, 03:55:34 PM
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God ^^
Jay, need I remind you that Mike Malone and Pete D'Alessandro are with the Nuggets now, definitely could be some bad blood there :P
I want to know how the phone call between Hinkie and Vlade went...
Hinkie: Alright we'll take on the Landry and Thompson contracts. But we want Stauskas.
Vlade: Yeah, sure!
Hinkie: And a future first round pick
Vlade: Why not!
Hinkie: We also want a right to pick swap
Vlade: Wait, you can do that?
Hinkie: Yes. We want two of them
Vlade: Deal! Oh and, what's Bynum's number?
Ty Lawson was smokin a hookah draft day who dafuq wants him, jussayin :-X
Quote from: RiOtChEsS on July 03, 2015, 09:14:30 PM
Quote from: RiOtChEsS on July 03, 2015, 06:39:15 PM
Pat Riley is meeting with Aldridge :o word is he is proposing a sign and trade to Portland for Bosh, then Aldridge gets a 5 year max :o
got the Heat for the ring @76/1 a few weeks ago, into 36/1 now
if we pull this off lookout
Quote from: Jayman on July 03, 2015, 09:54:14 PM
I want to know how the phone call between Hinkie and Vlade went...
Hinkie: Alright we'll take on the Landry and Thompson contracts. But we want Stauskas.
Vlade: Yeah, sure!
Hinkie: And a future first round pick
Vlade: Why not!
Hinkie: We also want a right to pick swap
Vlade: Wait, you can do that?
Hinkie: Yes. We want two of them
Vlade: Deal! Oh and, what's Bynum's number?
But those Euro 2nd round picks are going to be GOT!!!
Quote from: Mat0369 on July 03, 2015, 09:58:40 PM
Quote from: Jayman on July 03, 2015, 09:54:14 PM
I want to know how the phone call between Hinkie and Vlade went...
Hinkie: Alright we'll take on the Landry and Thompson contracts. But we want Stauskas.
Vlade: Yeah, sure!
Hinkie: And a future first round pick
Vlade: Why not!
Hinkie: We also want a right to pick swap
Vlade: Wait, you can do that?
Hinkie: Yes. We want two of them
Vlade: Deal! Oh and, what's Bynum's number?
But those Euro 2nd round picks are going to be GOT!!!
Game Of Thrones :D
Quote from: RiOtChEsS on July 03, 2015, 09:56:14 PM
Ty Lawson was smokin a hookah draft day who dafuq wants him, jussayin :-X
Quote from: RiOtChEsS on July 03, 2015, 09:14:30 PM
Quote from: RiOtChEsS on July 03, 2015, 06:39:15 PM
Pat Riley is meeting with Aldridge :o word is he is proposing a sign and trade to Portland for Bosh, then Aldridge gets a 5 year max :o
got the Heat for the ring @76/1 a few weeks ago, into 36/1 now
if we pull this off lookout
You won't like it, but even if they somehow get Aldridge. I don't think they'll get close to the title :-X
The value was getting Spurs at $11 a couple of weeks ago.
Quote from: Jayman on July 03, 2015, 11:42:37 PM
Quote from: RiOtChEsS on July 03, 2015, 09:56:14 PM
Ty Lawson was smokin a hookah draft day who dafuq wants him, jussayin :-X
Quote from: RiOtChEsS on July 03, 2015, 09:14:30 PM
Quote from: RiOtChEsS on July 03, 2015, 06:39:15 PM
Pat Riley is meeting with Aldridge :o word is he is proposing a sign and trade to Portland for Bosh, then Aldridge gets a 5 year max :o
got the Heat for the ring @76/1 a few weeks ago, into 36/1 now
if we pull this off lookout
You won't like it, but even if they somehow get Aldridge. I don't think they'll get close to the title :-X
The value was getting Spurs at $11 a couple of weeks ago.
never right off the Heat my friend ;)
C: Whiteside/Anderson
PF: Bosh/McRoberts/Haslem
SF: Deng/Winslow
SG: Wade/Richardson
PG: Dragic/Chalmers/Napier
that is a deep team, the possibility we could switch Aldridge for Bosh is 8)
Clippers r cooked, caught holding the bag
http://espn.go.com/nba/story/_/id/13193952/deandre-jordan-nearing-deal-dallas-mavericks
Quote from: RiOtChEsS on July 04, 2015, 09:38:43 AM
Clippers r cooked, caught holding the bag
http://espn.go.com/nba/story/_/id/13193952/deandre-jordan-nearing-deal-dallas-mavericks
http://espn.go.com/nba/story/_/id/13195011/rajon-rondo-sacramento-kings-agree-one-year-deal
Rondo to Sacto
Quote from: RiOtChEsS on July 04, 2015, 10:35:25 AM
http://espn.go.com/nba/story/_/id/13195011/rajon-rondo-sacramento-kings-agree-one-year-deal
Rondo to Sacto
You forgot a deal before the Rondo deal
http://basketball.realgm.com/wiretap/238597/Marco-Belinelli-Agrees-To-Three-Year-$19M-Deal-With-Kings
Belinelli to Kings for 3 year $19m
Kings apparently interested in J Smoove again.
So the Kings traded Stauskas, a first round pick, and two pick swaps for a 1-year rental of Rondo + Marco Belinellii. Flowering well done ::)
I give it two weeks before Rondo and Boogie are at each other's throats. I'm not ready to give up on him, I love the guy, but I don't see it as a great fit. Will be some major spacing issues with Rondo, Gay, WCS and Boogie.
Horrible day for the Celtics. One of our greats, The Truth, will be stuck on a team that might not even get home-court in the first round now DJ has left. And Dallas' pick we own just got a whole lot better >:(
I don't know how Cuban does it. Rebuilds on the fly every year. This off-season just gets even more depressing.
Disaster for the Clippers losing DJ. And they traded their backup center in the Stephenson deal a couple of weeks ago!
Kings paid $10 mill for Rondo when noone else wanted Rondo??? Geez!!
http://espn.go.com/espnradio/play?id=13192617
Brian Windhorst
"Rival execs think Pat Riley's message to LaMarcus Aldridge last night was essentially where ever u sign go short & I'll be back next summer."
Quote from: Toga on July 04, 2015, 12:11:29 PM
Disaster for the Clippers losing DJ. And they traded their backup center in the Stephenson deal a couple of weeks ago!
Find it so funny, they spent so much attention bringing in the extra pieces to win a championship and now lost a key starter. As soon as the talk started after losing to Rockets kinda felt like it didn't matter what they did but Jordan was going to leave regardless
Quote from: R.Griffen on July 04, 2015, 01:20:15 PM
Quote from: Toga on July 04, 2015, 12:11:29 PM
Disaster for the Clippers losing DJ. And they traded their backup center in the Stephenson deal a couple of weeks ago!
Find it so funny, they spent so much attention bringing in the extra pieces to win a championship and now lost a key starter. As soon as the talk started after losing to Rockets kinda felt like it didn't matter what they did but Jordan was going to leave regardless
"allegedly" the relationship with CP3 wasnt great, between BG34 abd CP3 it isnt good either, again "allegedly"
Mavs still have no PG
And Jordan is replaceable, he seems like one of those guys that will flop and has FA bust written all over him. They can probably get Koufos cheap and play small ball which everyone seems to be doing now anyway
The sign and trade offer between Miami and Portland may tick a lot of boxes for Aldridge
1: He gets a 5 year max deal, not 4 if he leaves via free agency
2: Portland will be compensated by getting players and or picks, he wont feel like he left them high and dry
3: He is going to a loaded team, he wont have to play monster minutes (McRoberts/Haslem)
4: Punches a ticket to the ECF annually
5: Live in Miami 8)
So the Kings are after Josh Smith. Thanks for the lottery picks Sacramento
http://espn.go.com/new-york/nba/story/_/id/13195800/forward-derrick-williams-reaches-two-year-agreement-new-york-knicks
Quote from: RiOtChEsS on July 04, 2015, 01:56:58 PM
http://espn.go.com/new-york/nba/story/_/id/13195800/forward-derrick-williams-reaches-two-year-agreement-new-york-knicks
Hahahahahahahah
Quote from: Jayman on July 04, 2015, 02:04:50 PM
Quote from: RiOtChEsS on July 04, 2015, 01:56:58 PM
http://espn.go.com/new-york/nba/story/_/id/13195800/forward-derrick-williams-reaches-two-year-agreement-new-york-knicks
Hahahahahahahah
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Quote from: Jayman on July 04, 2015, 02:04:50 PM
Quote from: RiOtChEsS on July 04, 2015, 01:56:58 PM
http://espn.go.com/new-york/nba/story/_/id/13195800/forward-derrick-williams-reaches-two-year-agreement-new-york-knicks
Hahahahahahahah
If I was Derrick Williams I would have taken the $10m from the Knicks - NO ONE ELSE WOULD GIVE HIM THAT MONEY.
He cant rebound and he is 6ft 8in - WTF
He cant play defense
He goes quiet for LONG STRETCHES
Doesn't appear to have any basektball IQ - WHICH YOU NEED TO PLAY TRIANGLE
But he can dunk over people - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z50hXzR20mw
This is the weirdest signing IMO
Brooklyn got T-Rob for the minimum, while New York pay 5 million per year for Derick Williams? Lol. What has he shown at NBA level that T-Rob hasn't? They both aren't very good but sheesh, at least T-Rob was some kind of value...
I would have happily taken Williams back at the Kings for the minimum and give him his 10 - 15min a game as bench backup.
Because I have nothing better to do on a Saturday night than watch Indiana vs Miami summer league :P
Myles Turner has look really good. Jumper looks smooth for a big guy - there's a reason why I wanted him in Boston. Winslow has played like trash..
Quote from: Jayman on July 05, 2015, 01:14:32 AM
Because I have nothing better to do on a Saturday night than watch Indiana vs Miami summer league :P
Myles Turner has looked really good. Jumper looks smooth for a big guy - there's a reason why I wanted him in Boston. Winslow has played like trash..
Eh, he did well in the end. Think I might just be trying to find as many flaws in Winslow as possible so I don't have anymore nightmares of Charlotte turning down our offer :'(
http://espn.go.com/nba/story/_/id/13197710/free-agent-lamarcus-aldridge-says-sign-san-antonio-spurs
http://espn.go.com/nba/story/_/id/13199245/los-angeles-lakers-indiana-pacers-talking-roy-hibbert-trade
And there's the championship, congrats San Antonio :)
Quote from: Jayman on July 05, 2015, 10:17:15 AM
And there's the championship, congrats San Antonio :)
15-16 season over, Spurs to sweep every round... Timmy D could play a few more years too now, aldridge will take off so much offensive pressure.
Quote from: jvalles69 on July 05, 2015, 03:19:18 PM
Quote from: Jayman on July 05, 2015, 10:17:15 AM
And there's the championship, congrats San Antonio :)
15-16 season over, Spurs to sweep every round... Timmy D could play a few more years too now, aldridge will take off so much offensive pressure.
???
Spurs!
Still think we are absolutely no guarantee to beat Golden State or OKC in the West, or Miami in the finals. Team isn't THAT good. Need Parker to find reasonable form/Patty Mills to go another level if we are to win the championship again.
A bit more on the LA trade
Adrian Wojnarowski â€@WojYahooNBA 5m5 minutes ago
Lakers take Hibbert's $15.5M salary into space, likely send combo of 2nd round pick(s) and overseas players rights. @JeffZillgitt first.
Adrian Wojnarowski â€@WojYahooNBA 12m12 minutes ago
Yahoo Sources: Pacers finalizing terms on a trade to send center Roy Hibbert to the Lakers. Hibbert's been informed he's headed to Lakers.
And to show how poorly the Kings are run
Kosto Koufas has almost identical per 100's with Jason Thompson they are the same age and Thompson makes 6 mill per year and Koufas makes 8 mill per year for the next 2 years....
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http://espn.go.com/nba/story/_/id/13202763/cleveland-cavaliers-interested-joe-johnson-brooklyn-nets
Hayward contract and Varejao r the possible ingredients.
Then mid level exception on David West
Quote from: Mat0369 on July 05, 2015, 07:41:16 PM
And to show how poorly the Kings are run
Kosto Koufas has almost identical per 100's with Jason Thompson they are the same age and Thompson makes 6 mill per year and Koufas makes 8 mill per year for the next 2 years....
Except that Jason Thompson can only play PF and has the same game style as Cousins - therefore it doesn't work. Thompson is 2 years older than Koufos.
I think you need to re-look at the per 100
Kosta is better in:
Rebounds - Offensive & Defensive
Blocks
Steals
Points
FG%
Lower usage percentage
Opposition points in the paint - 12.3 compared to JT's 21.8
I think this is a solid signing, not a bad one but not an amazing one either. We get some legitimate backup at PF/C with this pick, who is clearly better than Thompson or Landry. A rotation of Cousins, Gay, WCS, Koufos, Casspi (if he re-signs) is a nice start - we could still do with another decent big as Reggie Evans and Eric Moreland (project player) fall away quite badly.
On the whole I think its been a solid trade period for the Kings (so far)
We got rid of some dead wood in Thompson, Landry and Stauskas, unfortunately it cost us some picks to do that but it did give us a lot of cap space ($36M)
Upgraded our defence - seeing as we have been at the bottom of the defensive ratings for about 10 years now (WCS, Koufos)
Brought in some shooting (Bellinelli)
Brought in another guard (Rondo)
The Rondo deal could be amazing or a complete utter failure, I dont see an in between here. For a team that has been in the lottery for a long time, I think its a risk worth taking - esepecially as its only a 1 year deal. If it fails we move on from it quite quickly, if it works then we will be in a race to keep him.
We still have around $10m left in cap space and only 14 signed for the season (if Casspi re-signs), so we can still add another decent Free Agent (rumour is J Smoove)
Bigs: Cousins, Gay, WCS, Koufos, Casspi, Moreland
Smalls: Rondo, Collison, McLemore, Bellinelli, Anderson, McCullum, Stockton
I know Jayman is not a fan of what we have done but when you assess the players we had versus what we have now - we have definitely upgraded. Whether its enough to make a run at playoffs is another thing.
Edit:
I completely forgot about the signing on James Anderson. Surely Anderson won't be on much money
Reggie Evans and Andre Miller are actually UFA's. Edited roster accordingly
Casspi just agreed to 2 years @ $6m
Koufas is MUCH better than Jason Thompson...
Reggie Jackson - 5 years $80m extension with Detroit..... wow
In other news, Kings nearing agreement with Omri Casspi for $6m over 2 years. I like that deal, good backup SF for Gay.
Quote from: valkorum on July 06, 2015, 12:47:58 PM
Reggie Jackson - 5 years $80m extension with Detroit..... wow
In other news, Kings nearing agreement with Omri Casspi for $6m over 2 years. I like that deal, good backup SF for Gay.
Considering what some players are getting, R-Jax is worth it, when moved to Detroit he showed that he's capable of being a triple double threat every night.
Reggie Jackson on the same money as John Wall just doesnt feel right to me.
Quote from: valkorum on July 06, 2015, 01:15:52 PM
Reggie Jackson on the same money as John Wall just doesnt feel right to me.
Well when you put it like that! :o Wall will get more though with his next signing, he's contract must be a bit behind...
Quote from: valkorum on July 06, 2015, 11:27:58 AM
I know Jayman is not a fan of what we have done but when you assess the players we had versus what we have now - we have definitely upgraded. Whether its enough to make a run at playoffs is another thing.
Honestly, I have been impressed with how the Kings have recovered after Wes Matthews signing in Dallas - I feel like he was their main target. The Rondo, Bellinelli and Koufas deals have been solid. Bellinelli and Koufas are low risk, they're solid NBA players. And Rondo, why not really. I'm not ready to give up on him, and on a 1-year deal, it's worth a punt. If he gets anywhere close to 2012 Playoff Rondo you have a steal.
Quote from: Jayman on July 06, 2015, 04:00:10 PM
Quote from: valkorum on July 06, 2015, 11:27:58 AM
I know Jayman is not a fan of what we have done but when you assess the players we had versus what we have now - we have definitely upgraded. Whether its enough to make a run at playoffs is another thing.
Honestly, I have been impressed with how the Kings have recovered after Wes Matthews signing in Dallas - I feel like he was their main target. The Rondo, Bellinelli and Koufas deals have been solid. Bellinelli and Koufas are low risk, they're solid NBA players. And Rondo, why not really. I'm not ready to give up on him, and on a 1-year deal, it's worth a punt. If he gets anywhere close to 2012 Playoff Rondo you have a steal.
the most important thing they have done is keep cousins at this stage so really they have had an ok offseason. I would rather him than randle and russell.
dayum David West to the Spurs on a veteran minimum :o
Just seen Herzonja's stuff in summer league :o
http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2516170-magics-mario-hezonja-throws-down-vicious-1-handed-dunk-in-summer-league-game-2
Spurs just double upgraded - far out
Splitter/Baynes for Aldridge/West
ok warriors its time to show me you are the best. I would love to see a spurs warriors series.
get out the broom.
West just paid $10mil for a ring.
Quote from: JBs-Hawks on July 07, 2015, 10:44:56 AM
West just paid $10mil for ANOTHER ring.
Fixed your post
Quote from: Holz on July 07, 2015, 10:32:44 AM
ok warriors its time to show me you are the best. I would love to see a spurs warriors series.
get out the broom.
Spurs would destroy them.
Seriously.. Parker, Green, Leonard, Aldridge, Duncan.. With Ginobilli, West, Mills, Diaw off the bench. That on paper, is one of the best teams I've ever seen in the recent years.
Quote from: Jayman on July 07, 2015, 11:51:23 AM
Quote from: Holz on July 07, 2015, 10:32:44 AM
ok warriors its time to show me you are the best. I would love to see a spurs warriors series.
get out the broom.
Spurs would destroy them.
Seriously.. Parker, Green, Leonard, Aldridge, Duncan.. With Ginobilli, West, Mills, Diaw off the bench. That on paper, is one of the best teams I've ever seen in the recent years.
exactly im calling a 4-0 spurs sweep.
Irving Johnson James Love Thompson with Mozgov Shumpert Smith Dellavedova off the bench
who wins that though
Quote from: Holz on July 07, 2015, 12:10:20 PM
Quote from: Jayman on July 07, 2015, 11:51:23 AM
Quote from: Holz on July 07, 2015, 10:32:44 AM
ok warriors its time to show me you are the best. I would love to see a spurs warriors series.
get out the broom.
Spurs would destroy them.
Seriously.. Parker, Green, Leonard, Aldridge, Duncan.. With Ginobilli, West, Mills, Diaw off the bench. That on paper, is one of the best teams I've ever seen in the recent years.
exactly im calling a 4-0 spurs sweep.
Irving Johnson James Love Thompson with Mozgov Shumpert Smith Dellavedova off the bench
who wins that though
Depends who's coach of the Cavs 10 months from now
Warriors trade David Lee to Boston for Gerald Wallace
Quote from: plumdog millionaire on July 07, 2015, 01:15:49 PM
Quote from: Holz on July 07, 2015, 12:10:20 PM
Quote from: Jayman on July 07, 2015, 11:51:23 AM
Quote from: Holz on July 07, 2015, 10:32:44 AM
ok warriors its time to show me you are the best. I would love to see a spurs warriors series.
get out the broom.
Spurs would destroy them.
Seriously.. Parker, Green, Leonard, Aldridge, Duncan.. With Ginobilli, West, Mills, Diaw off the bench. That on paper, is one of the best teams I've ever seen in the recent years.
exactly im calling a 4-0 spurs sweep.
Irving Johnson James Love Thompson with Mozgov Shumpert Smith Dellavedova off the bench
who wins that though
Depends who's coach of the Cavs 10 months from now
i think its heavily dependent on the Spurs health, they have all had issues including Kawhi
Cavs get Mo Williams to, man the Cavs r like Oprah right now
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Broussard and Cowherd r debating
Better Career, Kobe or Duncan?
Im of the opinion Duncan, they both went with Kobe, Duncan was the main man on all his teams and is imo the GOAT PF
http://sportsnaut.com/2015/07/bucks-president-threatens-possible-move-to-las-vegas-or-seattle/
Quote from: R.Griffen on July 08, 2015, 08:57:02 AM
Warriors trade David Lee to Boston for Gerald Wallace
It's about time Boston made a move.
Quote from: RiOtChEsS on July 08, 2015, 09:20:05 AM
Broussard and Cowherd r debating
Better Career, Kobe or Duncan?
Im of the opinion Duncan, they both went with Kobe, Duncan was the main man on all his teams and is imo the GOAT PF
this one is pretty easy Duncan.
as you said best ever player at his position and even his last ring i thought he should have got Finals MVP.
Duncan is a winner he just does it quietly.
Quote from: Holz on July 08, 2015, 10:11:52 AM
Quote from: RiOtChEsS on July 08, 2015, 09:20:05 AM
Broussard and Cowherd r debating
Better Career, Kobe or Duncan?
Im of the opinion Duncan, they both went with Kobe, Duncan was the main man on all his teams and is imo the GOAT PF
this one is pretty easy Duncan.
as you said best ever player at his position and even his last ring i thought he should have got Finals MVP.
Duncan is a winner he just does it quietly.
i totally respect his on court off court demeanor, guy is a model role model :P
Duncan for me, and it isn't even close. Extended period of winning, staying at his prime for so long.
Quote from: valkorum on July 08, 2015, 10:03:36 AM
Quote from: R.Griffen on July 08, 2015, 08:57:02 AM
Warriors trade David Lee to Boston for Gerald Wallace
It's about time Boston made a move.
Another average move. Why take playing time away from our young bigs? Because Lee might help us win 3 extra games? Don't see the point. This off-season has been a disappointment.
Quote from: Jayman on July 08, 2015, 10:45:49 AM
Duncan for me, and it isn't even close. Extended period of winning, staying at his prime for so long.
Quote from: valkorum on July 08, 2015, 10:03:36 AM
Quote from: R.Griffen on July 08, 2015, 08:57:02 AM
Warriors trade David Lee to Boston for Gerald Wallace
It's about time Boston made a move.
Another average move. Why take playing time away from our young bigs? Because Lee might help us win 3 extra games? Don't see the point. This off-season has been a disappointment.
I never said it was a good move - just said it was about time Boston actually made a move.
Out of curiosity, I know that Boston have been hoarding picks but what picks do they actually have?
And surely Boston has plenty of cap space as well - they cant have contracts like the Knicks.
Quote from: valkorum on July 08, 2015, 11:23:52 AM
Out of curiosity, I know that Boston have been hoarding picks but what picks do they actually have?
And surely Boston has plenty of cap space as well - they cant have contracts like the Knicks.
http://basketball.realgm.com/nba/draft/future_drafts/detailed
Thanks Riot
Thats a whole of picks although most will be mid to late 1st round picks (assuming a lot here). Has there ben any projection on how strong the draft will be next year? or still to early
Quote from: valkorum on July 08, 2015, 01:02:22 PM
Thanks Riot
Thats a whole of picks although most will be mid to late 1st round picks (assuming a lot here). Has there ben any projection on how strong the draft will be next year? or still to early
not sure Valk, Jayman will most probably be all over it already ;)
Quote from: valkorum on July 08, 2015, 10:57:50 AM
Quote from: Jayman on July 08, 2015, 10:45:49 AM
Duncan for me, and it isn't even close. Extended period of winning, staying at his prime for so long.
Quote from: valkorum on July 08, 2015, 10:03:36 AM
Quote from: R.Griffen on July 08, 2015, 08:57:02 AM
Warriors trade David Lee to Boston for Gerald Wallace
It's about time Boston made a move.
Another average move. Why take playing time away from our young bigs? Because Lee might help us win 3 extra games? Don't see the point. This off-season has been a disappointment.
I never said it was a good move - just said it was about time Boston actually made a move.
lol!
comedy Gold! ;)
Quote from: valkorum on July 08, 2015, 01:02:22 PM
Thanks Riot
Thats a whole of picks although most will be mid to late 1st round picks (assuming a lot here). Has there ben any projection on how strong the draft will be next year? or still to early
By the looks not as strong as the last couple years, however a lot of players are grouped together as the college season has not started.
One of ESPN reporters said something like 1-3 the talent is there but from 4-20 it's a big group of players. Just gotta wait for the college season to start
Is there a site that keeps a list of all the trades and FA signings that's updated regularly
Quote from: R.Griffen on July 08, 2015, 02:04:16 PM
Is there a site that keeps a list of all the trades and FA signings that's updated regularly
http://espn.go.com/nba/story/_/id/12307054/nba-free-agents-2015-2016
Quote from: valkorum on July 08, 2015, 10:57:50 AM
Quote from: Jayman on July 08, 2015, 10:45:49 AM
Duncan for me, and it isn't even close. Extended period of winning, staying at his prime for so long.
Quote from: valkorum on July 08, 2015, 10:03:36 AM
Quote from: R.Griffen on July 08, 2015, 08:57:02 AM
Warriors trade David Lee to Boston for Gerald Wallace
It's about time Boston made a move.
Another average move. Why take playing time away from our young bigs? Because Lee might help us win 3 extra games? Don't see the point. This off-season has been a disappointment.
I never said it was a good move - just said it was about time Boston actually made a move.
Haha and you're right. I was just venting my frustration at this let-down of an off season :(
Quote from: RiOtChEsS on July 08, 2015, 01:08:39 PM
Quote from: valkorum on July 08, 2015, 01:02:22 PM
Thanks Riot
Thats a whole of picks although most will be mid to late 1st round picks (assuming a lot here). Has there ben any projection on how strong the draft will be next year? or still to early
not sure Valk, Jayman will most probably be all over it already ;)
And that's the problem with our strategy. We have so many mid-late first round picks, but where will the superstar come from? It's almost impossible to get one that late in the draft, and as we saw this year, no one wants to trade a top 8 pick for a bunch of mediocre ones. At this rate, we're going to keep treading water drafting guys like Rozier and just turning into a perennial 6th/7th/8th seed.
The Dallas pick I held high hopes for but of course they signed two high quality free agents. So now it's just the Brooklyn picks. You bet your bottom dollar I hope they trade Joe Johnson.
As for next years draft, the Aussie, Ben Simmons is far and away the best prospect. But I don't know much else about it.
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Quote from: valkorum on July 08, 2015, 01:02:22 PM
Thanks Riot
Thats a whole of picks although most will be mid to late 1st round picks (assuming a lot here). Has there ben any projection on how strong the draft will be next year? or still to early
not sure Valk, Jayman will most probably be all over it already ;)
And that's the problem with our strategy. We have so many mid-late first round picks, but where will the superstar come from? It's almost impossible to get one that late in the draft, and as we saw this year, no one wants to trade a top 8 pick for a bunch of mediocre ones. At this rate, we're going to keep treading water drafting guys like Rozier and just turning into a perennial 6th/7th/8th seed.
The Dallas pick I held high hopes for but of course they signed two high quality free agents. So now it's just the Brooklyn picks. You bet your bottom dollar I hope they trade Joe Johnson.
As for next years draft, the Aussie, Ben Simmons is far and away the best prospect. But I don't know much else about it.
From what I've heard, there isn't a helluva lot of talent after Simmons.
Quote from: Jayman on July 08, 2015, 04:44:26 PM
And that's the problem with our strategy. We have so many mid-late first round picks, but where will the superstar come from? It's almost impossible to get one that late in the draft, and as we saw this year, no one wants to trade a top 8 pick for a bunch of mediocre ones. At this rate, we're going to keep treading water drafting guys like Rozier and just turning into a perennial 6th/7th/8th seed.
The Dallas pick I held high hopes for but of course they signed two high quality free agents. So now it's just the Brooklyn picks. You bet your bottom dollar I hope they trade Joe Johnson.
As for next years draft, the Aussie, Ben Simmons is far and away the best prospect. But I don't know much else about it.
The Kings just did that. And also gave two future lottery picks which will probably end up being top 5. It is just because Boston doesn't have Hinkie and his jedi mind tricks.
Warriors saved about $5.4M by replacing David Lee with Gerald Wallace
w0w just w0w
http://espn.go.com/nba/story/_/id/13221695/los-angeles-clippers-lobbying-deandre-jordan-back-deal-dallas-mavericks
Quote from: RiOtChEsS on July 09, 2015, 09:19:35 AM
w0w just w0w
http://espn.go.com/nba/story/_/id/13221695/los-angeles-clippers-lobbying-deandre-jordan-back-deal-dallas-mavericks
wow hope they can pull it off. Spurs v Clippers 2.0 would be amazing.
Quote from: Holz on July 09, 2015, 09:54:24 AM
Quote from: RiOtChEsS on July 09, 2015, 09:19:35 AM
w0w just w0w
http://espn.go.com/nba/story/_/id/13221695/los-angeles-clippers-lobbying-deandre-jordan-back-deal-dallas-mavericks
wow hope they can pull it off. Spurs v Clippers 2.0 would be amazing.
i dont like it, it opens a pandoras box. DJ needs to honor the verbal agreement or it derails Dallas' free agency, who could they get now?
Quote from: RiOtChEsS on July 09, 2015, 09:19:35 AM
w0w just w0w
http://espn.go.com/nba/story/_/id/13221695/los-angeles-clippers-lobbying-deandre-jordan-back-deal-dallas-mavericks
:o :o
Quote from: Jayman on July 09, 2015, 10:05:10 AM
Quote from: RiOtChEsS on July 09, 2015, 09:19:35 AM
w0w just w0w
http://espn.go.com/nba/story/_/id/13221695/los-angeles-clippers-lobbying-deandre-jordan-back-deal-dallas-mavericks
:o :o
Commish needs to adjust the rules imo, teams/players could exploit it. Im not saying this is the case here but like all rules in sports, teams find a way to exploit the loopholes.
Hypothetical:
Player X played for Team A but agrees with Team B verbally who play in the same division/conference, when signing day comes Player X reneges on Team B to stay with Team A crushing Team B's FA period.
Quote from: RiOtChEsS on July 09, 2015, 10:00:06 AM
Quote from: Holz on July 09, 2015, 09:54:24 AM
Quote from: RiOtChEsS on July 09, 2015, 09:19:35 AM
w0w just w0w
http://espn.go.com/nba/story/_/id/13221695/los-angeles-clippers-lobbying-deandre-jordan-back-deal-dallas-mavericks
wow hope they can pull it off. Spurs v Clippers 2.0 would be amazing.
i dont like it, it opens a pandoras box. DJ needs to honor the verbal agreement or it derails Dallas' free agency, who could they get now?
100% agree, it stopped Dallas from being able to sign another big man and they lost Tyson Chandler because of it. Deandre will be booed in every venue he visits if he goes back on the deal.
Quote from: Mat0369 on July 08, 2015, 08:55:53 PM
The Kings just did that. And also gave two future lottery picks which will probably end up being top 5. It is just because Boston doesn't have Hinkie and his jedi mind tricks.
Go back and watch Stauskas play from last season. He gets BULLIED on defence.
Looking at the sum of the trades we moved a top 8 pick (#7), a salary dump and we received, Koufos, Bellinelli, Rondo - who are all upgrades on everyone we got rid of.
Quote from: jvalles69 on July 09, 2015, 10:16:46 AM
Quote from: RiOtChEsS on July 09, 2015, 10:00:06 AM
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Quote from: RiOtChEsS on July 09, 2015, 09:19:35 AM
w0w just w0w
http://espn.go.com/nba/story/_/id/13221695/los-angeles-clippers-lobbying-deandre-jordan-back-deal-dallas-mavericks
wow hope they can pull it off. Spurs v Clippers 2.0 would be amazing.
i dont like it, it opens a pandoras box. DJ needs to honor the verbal agreement or it derails Dallas' free agency, who could they get now?
100% agree, it stopped Dallas from being able to sign another big man and they lost Tyson Chandler because of it. Deandre will be booed in every venue he visits if he goes back on the deal.
every venue but one.
Geez! Things have escalated with Blake posting pics of Doc and the team locked in DJ's house until he sign with the Clips?!? Report is saying that DJ is going to resign with the Clippers?!? :o Commish needs to step in here for sure!
QuoteMarc Stein said on Twitter late Wednesday that Mavericks' owner Mark Cuban is telling the team to expect DeAndre Jordan to re-sign with the Clippers.
In one of the craziest days in free-agency history, it appears that Jordan will indeed re-sign with the Clippers soon, as he's not even taking calls from the Mavericks. This lays to waste much of the Mavericks' plans made nine days ago, and it reconfigures the rest of the league's moves, not too mention Cuban's mental state after this change of heart. Offseason verbal commitments probably will not mean as much going forward, and now we just need Bruce Springsteen to write (another) song about it. Expect Jordan to end up back with the Clippers, after all but shunning them for the Mavericks. We even changed our depth charts - again - and it sounds like Jordan could sign with the Clips in a couple hours, at 12:01 ET.
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Unbelievable
Quote from: Jayman on July 09, 2015, 01:38:49 PM
Unbelievable
Apperently players have had second thoughts in the past, but not sure if anyone has renegged on an agreement?
Clippers v Spurs 2.0
this time its the WCF like it should have been this year.
your move Warriors.
Quote from: Jayman on July 09, 2015, 01:38:49 PM
Unbelievable
Here's an angry Mavs fan's take on the situation
https://www.facebook.com/BasketballForeverPage/videos/1017568591607146/?video_source=pages_finch_main_video
Quote from: Toga on July 09, 2015, 02:22:45 PM
Quote from: Jayman on July 09, 2015, 01:38:49 PM
Unbelievable
Here's an angry Mavs fan's take on the situation
https://www.facebook.com/BasketballForeverPage/videos/1017568591607146/?video_source=pages_finch_main_video
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Officially re-signed with the Clipps. Wow just wow.
No words yet..
Quote from: Jayman on July 09, 2015, 02:35:18 PM
Officially re-signed with the Clipps. Wow just wow.
No words yet..
Who gets screwed the most in this? No Dallas, but Clippers cross town rivals the Lakers because now Dallas will sign and trade Monta for Hibbert! :o
Quote from: jvalles69 on July 09, 2015, 02:36:38 PM
Quote from: Jayman on July 09, 2015, 02:35:18 PM
Officially re-signed with the Clipps. Wow just wow.
No words yet..
Who gets screwed the most in this? No Dallas, but Clippers cross town rivals the Lakers because now Dallas will sign and trade Monta for Hibbert! :o
Biggest winners are the Celtics, who own the Dallas pick this season ;D
And get to see PP and Doc go for another ring!
Quote from: Jayman on July 09, 2015, 02:50:43 PM
Quote from: jvalles69 on July 09, 2015, 02:36:38 PM
Quote from: Jayman on July 09, 2015, 02:35:18 PM
Officially re-signed with the Clipps. Wow just wow.
No words yet..
Who gets screwed the most in this? No Dallas, but Clippers cross town rivals the Lakers because now Dallas will sign and trade Monta for Hibbert! :o
Biggest winners are the Celtics, who own the Dallas pick this season ;D
And get to see PP and Doc go for another ring!
nah they r jinxed now :-X
Funniest twitter comment I have seen so far:
When Mavs play Clips, Cuban will sign himself to a 10 day contract - sub in, clothesline DJ, sub out
In other trades - The Kings trade away Ray McCallum to Spurs for a future 2nd round pick.
Quote from: RiOtChEsS on July 09, 2015, 02:55:19 PM
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Quote from: jvalles69 on July 09, 2015, 02:36:38 PM
Quote from: Jayman on July 09, 2015, 02:35:18 PM
Officially re-signed with the Clipps. Wow just wow.
No words yet..
Who gets screwed the most in this? No Dallas, but Clippers cross town rivals the Lakers because now Dallas will sign and trade Monta for Hibbert! :o
Biggest winners are the Celtics, who own the Dallas pick this season ;D
And get to see PP and Doc go for another ring!
nah they r jinxed now :-X
:(
I'm just glad we get to see PP finish on a legit team. CP3, Redick, Stephenson, The Truth, Griffin, DJ. That's a helluva team.
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Quote from: jvalles69 on July 09, 2015, 02:36:38 PM
Quote from: Jayman on July 09, 2015, 02:35:18 PM
Officially re-signed with the Clipps. Wow just wow.
No words yet..
Who gets screwed the most in this? No Dallas, but Clippers cross town rivals the Lakers because now Dallas will sign and trade Monta for Hibbert! :o
Biggest winners are the Celtics, who own the Dallas pick this season ;D
And get to see PP and Doc go for another ring!
nah they r jinxed now :-X
:(
I'm just glad we get to see PP finish on a legit team. CP3, Redick, Stephenson, The Truth, Griffin, DJ. That's a helluva team.
maybe pick up allen for some more clutch shooting off the bench.
Quote from: Holz on July 09, 2015, 04:07:06 PM
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Quote from: Jayman on July 09, 2015, 02:35:18 PM
Officially re-signed with the Clipps. Wow just wow.
No words yet..
Who gets screwed the most in this? No Dallas, but Clippers cross town rivals the Lakers because now Dallas will sign and trade Monta for Hibbert! :o
Biggest winners are the Celtics, who own the Dallas pick this season ;D
And get to see PP and Doc go for another ring!
nah they r jinxed now :-X
:(
I'm just glad we get to see PP finish on a legit team. CP3, Redick, Stephenson, The Truth, Griffin, DJ. That's a helluva team.
maybe pick up allen for some more clutch shooting off the bench.
Hasn't Ray been linked to GSW recently? Splash triplets?! :o
Quote from: jvalles69 on July 09, 2015, 04:08:46 PM
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Quote from: jvalles69 on July 09, 2015, 02:36:38 PM
Quote from: Jayman on July 09, 2015, 02:35:18 PM
Officially re-signed with the Clipps. Wow just wow.
No words yet..
Who gets screwed the most in this? No Dallas, but Clippers cross town rivals the Lakers because now Dallas will sign and trade Monta for Hibbert! :o
Biggest winners are the Celtics, who own the Dallas pick this season ;D
And get to see PP and Doc go for another ring!
nah they r jinxed now :-X
:(
I'm just glad we get to see PP finish on a legit team. CP3, Redick, Stephenson, The Truth, Griffin, DJ. That's a helluva team.
maybe pick up allen for some more clutch shooting off the bench.
Hasn't Ray been linked to GSW recently? Splash triplets?! :o
im hearing spurs actuallly
Quote from: Holz on July 09, 2015, 04:26:36 PM
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Quote from: Jayman on July 09, 2015, 02:35:18 PM
Officially re-signed with the Clipps. Wow just wow.
No words yet..
Who gets screwed the most in this? No Dallas, but Clippers cross town rivals the Lakers because now Dallas will sign and trade Monta for Hibbert! :o
Biggest winners are the Celtics, who own the Dallas pick this season ;D
And get to see PP and Doc go for another ring!
nah they r jinxed now :-X
:(
I'm just glad we get to see PP finish on a legit team. CP3, Redick, Stephenson, The Truth, Griffin, DJ. That's a helluva team.
maybe pick up allen for some more clutch shooting off the bench.
Hasn't Ray been linked to GSW recently? Splash triplets?! :o
im hearing spurs actuallly
Will def be a top 4 team, surprised he's not linking back up with the Heat guys at the Cavs.
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Quote from: Jayman on July 09, 2015, 02:35:18 PM
Officially re-signed with the Clipps. Wow just wow.
No words yet..
Who gets screwed the most in this? No Dallas, but Clippers cross town rivals the Lakers because now Dallas will sign and trade Monta for Hibbert! :o
Biggest winners are the Celtics, who own the Dallas pick this season ;D
And get to see PP and Doc go for another ring!
nah they r jinxed now :-X
:(
I'm just glad we get to see PP finish on a legit team. CP3, Redick, Stephenson, The Truth, Griffin, DJ. That's a helluva team.
maybe pick up allen for some more clutch shooting off the bench.
Hasn't Ray been linked to GSW recently? Splash triplets?! :o
im hearing spurs actuallly
Will def be a top 4 team, surprised he's not linking back up with the Heat guys at the Cavs.
Clippers have never made a WCF, never will :-X ya gotta be stoked though with Dallas's pick ;)
If Dallas don't pull something our of their a$$ soon, I can't see them making the playoffs. Too many great teams out west.
Quote from: Jayman on July 09, 2015, 05:19:32 PM
If Dallas don't pull something our of their a$$ soon, I can't see them making the playoffs. Too many great teams out west.
can you imagine is players saw this and intentionally did what Jordan did to just destroy other teams with no intention of ever going there.
#classicholzmove
Hang on, I think I missed this from earlier.. Why did Sacremento give up Ray McCallum to the Spurs for what is likely to be the 60th pick?
Are they taking the piss?
Quote from: Jayman on July 09, 2015, 06:48:45 PM
Hang on, I think I missed this from earlier.. Why did Sacremento give up Ray McCallum to the Spurs for what is likely to be the 60th pick?
Are they taking the piss?
I like Ray McCallum but he isnt going to feature much in the rotations - Rondo, Collison, McLemore, Bellinelli. He will get more opportunities at the Spurs with Bellinelli and Corey gone
Quote from: valkorum on July 09, 2015, 07:50:15 PM
Quote from: Jayman on July 09, 2015, 06:48:45 PM
Hang on, I think I missed this from earlier.. Why did Sacremento give up Ray McCallum to the Spurs for what is likely to be the 60th pick?
Are they taking the piss?
I like Ray McCallum but he isnt going to feature much in the rotations - Rondo, Collison, McLemore, Bellinelli. He will get more opportunities at the Spurs with Bellinelli and Corey gone
Yeah I get that, but you basically gave him up for nothing. http://bkref.com/tiny/CXL1h
Quote from: valkorum on July 09, 2015, 10:30:46 AM
Go back and watch Stauskas play from last season. He gets BULLIED on defence.
Looking at the sum of the trades we moved a top 8 pick (#7), a salary dump and we received, Koufos, Bellinelli, Rondo - who are all upgrades on everyone we got rid of.
And still not good enough for the 8 seed in the west. They traded a pick 8 who can still become a decent shooter in the NBA, another first round pick and TWO pick swaps. Those pick swaps could very well be two top 5 picks they lose in that deal to go out and sign Rajon Rondo, Bellinelli and Koufos.
In Vlade we trust. He made the moves to clear cap space and then he went and got Bellinelli, Rondo & Koufos. Now he has moved Ray Ray.
Vivek Ranadive has said he wont shave until Vlade is finished - he still hasn't shaved......
How do the Kings plan on finding enough minutes for DMC, WCS, and Koufus? Don't like the fit of any of those 2 together at the one time.
Quote from: Jayman on July 09, 2015, 10:13:21 PM
How do the Kings plan on finding enough minutes for DMC, WCS, and Koufus? Don't like the fit of any of those 2 together at the one time.
DMC will get his minutes, don't worry about that. Koufos and WCS will split the rest of the time between them.
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How do the Kings plan on finding enough minutes for DMC, WCS, and Koufus? Don't like the fit of any of those 2 together at the one time.
DMC will get his minutes, don't worry about that. Koufos and WCS will split the rest of the time between them.
the west is deep, u want a deep rotation, i dont mind it at all
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If Dallas don't pull something our of their a$$ soon, I can't see them making the playoffs. Too many great teams out west.
can you imagine is players saw this and intentionally did what Jordan did to just destroy other teams with no intention of ever going there.
#classicholzmove
exactly this, pandoras box, NBA need to squash this flirtation loop hole :-X
Quote from: valkorum on July 09, 2015, 10:32:07 PM
Quote from: Jayman on July 09, 2015, 10:13:21 PM
How do the Kings plan on finding enough minutes for DMC, WCS, and Koufus? Don't like the fit of any of those 2 together at the one time.
DMC will get his minutes, don't worry about that. Koufos and WCS will split the rest of the time between them.
Problem. They're all centres.
Quote from: Jayman on July 10, 2015, 12:36:49 AM
Problem. They're all centres.
DMC to PF - problem solved.
Kanter signed massive deal with Portland I forgot trying to find the amount again. But why would you go to Portland?
Quote from: R.Griffen on July 10, 2015, 10:51:39 AM
Kanter signed massive deal with Portland I forgot trying to find the amount again. But why would you go to Portland?
because they had the money to offer him a massive deal.
Wes Matthews deal got upgraded by Dallas - gone up from 4 years $57m to 4 years $70m
http://www.sbnation.com/nba/2015/7/3/8818683/wes-matthews-mavericks-contract-nba-free-agency-2015
Turned out nice for Wes, he got more money than what the Kings offered him
Quote from: R.Griffen on July 10, 2015, 10:51:39 AM
Kanter signed massive deal with Portland I forgot trying to find the amount again. But why would you go to Portland?
4 years $70m
http://www.sbnation.com/2015/7/9/8923779/enes-kanter-offer-sheet-blazers-thunder
Quote from: Holz on July 10, 2015, 11:10:24 AM
Quote from: R.Griffen on July 10, 2015, 10:51:39 AM
Kanter signed massive deal with Portland I forgot trying to find the amount again. But why would you go to Portland?
because they had the money to offer him a massive deal.
Didn't he go to Thunder to win a championship?
Quote from: Holz on July 10, 2015, 11:10:24 AM
Quote from: R.Griffen on July 10, 2015, 10:51:39 AM
Kanter signed massive deal with Portland I forgot trying to find the amount again. But why would you go to Portland?
because they had the money to offer him a massive deal.
Thunder have already said they will match the offer so Kanter will stay put.
Hibbert seems to have signed with Lakers and Dallas have got Zaza as their consolation prize.
i feel really bad for Dallas and Dirk, he has been taking less money to keep the team a contender and this bonehead basically derails all his hard work with his indecision, i hope that Jordan is healthy and irrelevant for the rest of his career :-X
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Quote from: R.Griffen on July 10, 2015, 10:51:39 AM
Kanter signed massive deal with Portland I forgot trying to find the amount again. But why would you go to Portland?
Can't see a scenario where OKC don't match.
Quote from: RiOtChEsS on July 10, 2015, 01:20:25 PM
i feel really bad for Dallas and Dirk, he has been taking less money to keep the team a contender and this bonehead basically derails all his hard work with his indecision, i hope that Jordan is healthy and irrelevant for the rest of his career :-X
Yeah there's one person I feel sorry for in all of this. Dirk NowitKi :(
Mark Cuban
Cuban then went on to detail his communication with Jordan. "Through all of Monday we were texting back and forth discussing players available, the amount of cap room we had left. Who our staff liked. How excited he was," he wrote.
"Then on Tuesday the communications basically stopped and we started hearing rumblings from multiple people that something was up.
"So I flew to Houston and got a room at the galleria, which is just a few minutes from his house. I had my driver take me to his house. It's inside a small gated community but the gate was wide open. So we drove in and I literally walked right up to his door.
"There was no one home. So I texted him saying that I was there. I know something is up. Let's talk. He texted me that he was on a date."
Cuban wrote that he told Jordan to have fun and offered to "come by there and say hi" or take Jordan and his date back to Dallas for a night out. Jordan did not respond.
After about 10 minutes, Cuban wrote, he returned to his hotel. He "didn't think it was right" to sit in front of Jordan's house.
Once at the hotel, Cuban wrote that he texted Jordan: "Have fun on this date and we will talk," and received an immediate reply from Jordan thanking him.
"He knew I was in town," Cuban wrote. "He knew I was close by. I knew something was up. I was getting the same reports that everyone else was.
"I also knew his agents were coming to town. It made sense that he would talk to them and worst case, even if he was having second thoughts the agent would be able to give me updates.
"Like any big career move it's natural to have second thoughts. So while I was concerned, I still wasn't worried. So I went to bed."
Nets and Deron Wolliams have agreed on a buyout. He will sign a 2-year deal with Dallas.
BEST NEWS IN MONTHS FOR BOSTON! Their unprotected pick will be very handy this year 8) hopefully they trade Johnson now too. We don't get Dallas' pick unless it's outside the top 7 - this move should make sure of that ;D
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Mark Cuban
Cuban then went on to detail his communication with Jordan. "Through all of Monday we were texting back and forth discussing players available, the amount of cap room we had left. Who our staff liked. How excited he was," he wrote.
"Then on Tuesday the communications basically stopped and we started hearing rumblings from multiple people that something was up.
"So I flew to Houston and got a room at the galleria, which is just a few minutes from his house. I had my driver take me to his house. It's inside a small gated community but the gate was wide open. So we drove in and I literally walked right up to his door.
"There was no one home. So I texted him saying that I was there. I know something is up. Let's talk. He texted me that he was on a date."
Cuban wrote that he told Jordan to have fun and offered to "come by there and say hi" or take Jordan and his date back to Dallas for a night out. Jordan did not respond.
After about 10 minutes, Cuban wrote, he returned to his hotel. He "didn't think it was right" to sit in front of Jordan's house.
Once at the hotel, Cuban wrote that he texted Jordan: "Have fun on this date and we will talk," and received an immediate reply from Jordan thanking him.
"He knew I was in town," Cuban wrote. "He knew I was close by. I knew something was up. I was getting the same reports that everyone else was.
"I also knew his agents were coming to town. It made sense that he would talk to them and worst case, even if he was having second thoughts the agent would be able to give me updates.
"Like any big career move it's natural to have second thoughts. So while I was concerned, I still wasn't worried. So I went to bed."
http://espn.go.com/nba/story/_/id/13236673/deandre-jordan-issues-apology-dallas-mavericks-mark-cuban
this makes it even worse
"After the tweets were published, Cuban told ESPN.com via his Cyber Dust messaging app that he still has not had any communication with Jordan since Tuesday night. Cuban said Jordan's mother, Kimberly, called him, but he declined to elaborate on that conversation."
His Mum is tidying up his shower ::)
Marc Stein â€@ESPNSteinLine 1h1 hour ago
ESPN sources say Sacramento Kings are in advanced discussions with Andrea Bargnani and closing in on signing the former Knick
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http://deadspin.com/deadspin-up-all-night-i-will-remember-you-1507813821
And some bad news
http://www.philly.com/philly/blogs/deep-sixer/Embiid-likely-to-miss-season-after-2d-surgery.html
It turns out he grew another 2 inches after the surgery which could have been what has caused the setback. I remember reading just some basic info after the original surgery when everyone was giving their opinion. There was a sports surgeon that said the potential cause of these fractures is the fact he hasn't finished growing. His skeletal system is not fully matured and when it does he will be pretty much good to go. So pretty much if he has stopped growing this second surgery should have a high success rate and he should be good to go. Obviously with navicular injuries we know they can be messed up (Clark and Trengove), but it's not all doom and gloom yet.
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And some bad news
http://www.philly.com/philly/blogs/deep-sixer/Embiid-likely-to-miss-season-after-2d-surgery.html
It turns out he grew another 2 inches after the surgery which could have been what has caused the setback. I remember reading just some basic info after the original surgery when everyone was giving their opinion. There was a sports surgeon that said the potential cause of these fractures is the fact he hasn't finished growing. His skeletal system is not fully matured and when it does he will be pretty much good to go. So pretty much if he has stopped growing this second surgery should have a high success rate and he should be good to go. Obviously with navicular injuries we know they can be messed up (Clark and Trengove), but it's not all doom and gloom yet.
So maybe drafting two injury prone centres in consecutive drafts wasn't the smartest choice.
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And some bad news
http://www.philly.com/philly/blogs/deep-sixer/Embiid-likely-to-miss-season-after-2d-surgery.html
It turns out he grew another 2 inches after the surgery which could have been what has caused the setback. I remember reading just some basic info after the original surgery when everyone was giving their opinion. There was a sports surgeon that said the potential cause of these fractures is the fact he hasn't finished growing. His skeletal system is not fully matured and when it does he will be pretty much good to go. So pretty much if he has stopped growing this second surgery should have a high success rate and he should be good to go. Obviously with navicular injuries we know they can be messed up (Clark and Trengove), but it's not all doom and gloom yet.
So maybe drafting two injury prone centres in consecutive drafts wasn't the smartest choice.
got them Okafor this year and when he is back they have elite talent. I like their picks.
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So maybe drafting two injury prone centres in consecutive drafts wasn't the smartest choice.
Or maybe drafting Okafor as insurance is looking a lot better right now. It takes the pressure off Jojo
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We will see this soon enough
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Irvvb7Y4-w
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We will see this soon enough
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Irvvb7Y4-w
Thought the same thing about Oden.
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Thought the same thing about Oden.
Different age, different injury
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Thought the same thing about Oden.
Different age, different injury
injury prone and a terrible draft pick, big dudes only get more injured the older they get, this guy already cant get on the court
It's not a terrible pick. They had the chance to take the number one rated player in the draft with the highest ceiling and your potential franchise guy. You have to take him. Who do they draft instead? Exum? Dude is on the court and doing just as much as Embiid.
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It's not a terrible pick. They had the chance to take the number one rated player in the draft with the highest ceiling and your potential franchise guy. You have to take him. Who do they draft instead? Exum? Dude is on the court and doing just as much as Embiid.
we debated this last year, we can continue to every year/game this guy doesnt play :-X
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Quote from: Mat0369 on July 12, 2015, 10:54:31 PM
It's not a terrible pick. They had the chance to take the number one rated player in the draft with the highest ceiling and your potential franchise guy. You have to take him. Who do they draft instead? Exum? Dude is on the court and doing just as much as Embiid.
we debated this last year, we can continue to every year/game this guy doesnt play :-X
there wasnt much at that pick though that has done anything. So it was a calcualted risk. As Matt said I would actually still rather have Embiid than most of the guys avialblae at that pick even now.
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It's not a terrible pick. They had the chance to take the number one rated player in the draft with the highest ceiling and your potential franchise guy. You have to take him. Who do they draft instead? Exum? Dude is on the court and doing just as much as Embiid.
we debated this last year, we can continue to every year/game this guy doesnt play :-X
there wasnt much at that pick though that has done anything. So it was a calcualted risk. As Matt said I would actually still rather have Embiid than most of the guys avialblae at that pick even now.
w0w
with Philly's current roster as if you wouldnt want to slot Exum in at PG, he isnt getting quality minutes like he would on a car crash squad like the 76ers, could have inflated numbers and be a better asset already than Embroken will ever be, big guys never get more durable, scratch that nobody ever gets more durable :D
Exum who has only played against scrubs before the NBA and can't shoot? They already had a PG with a broken shooting stroke that was a lot better on defense in MCW on the roster at that point.
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It's not a terrible pick. They had the chance to take the number one rated player in the draft with the highest ceiling and your potential franchise guy. You have to take him. Who do they draft instead? Exum? Dude is on the court and doing just as much as Embiid.
we debated this last year, we can continue to every year/game this guy doesnt play :-X
there wasnt much at that pick though that has done anything. So it was a calcualted risk. As Matt said I would actually still rather have Embiid than most of the guys avialblae at that pick even now.
w0w
with Philly's current roster as if you wouldnt want to slot Exum in at PG, he isnt getting quality minutes like he would on a car crash squad like the 76ers, could have inflated numbers and be a better asset already than Embroken will ever be, big guys never get more durable, scratch that nobody ever gets more durable :D
I'd rather have any of Exum, Smart, Gordon over Embiid at this point. Granted, I woudn't have dreamt of saying that at the time of the draft. The guy is so bloody talented, but is turning into a train wreck. No guarantee he ever gets on the court.
Quote from: Mat0369 on July 13, 2015, 01:56:53 PM
Exum who has only played against scrubs before the NBA and can't shoot? They already had a PG with a broken shooting stroke that was a lot better on defense in MCW on the roster at that point.
who u might remember was moved on for assets, would u say Williams value increased with playing time from when he was drafted? and would you say Embiid's value has increased or decreased since being drafted?
Quote from: Jayman on July 13, 2015, 01:59:31 PM
I'd rather have any of Exum, Smart, Gordon over Embiid at this point. Granted, I woudn't have dreamt of saying that at the time of the draft. The guy is so bloody talented, but is turning into a train wreck. No guarantee he ever gets on the court.
And none of those guys have anywhere near the talent that Embiid has. You have to take the shot on Embiid in that situation 10 out of 10 times. He is a generational talent, the others aren't
Quote from: RiOtChEsS on July 13, 2015, 02:08:25 PM
who u might remember was moved on for assets, would u say Williams value increased with playing time from when he was drafted? and would you say Embiid's value has increased or decreased since being drafted?
MCW won rookie of the year in his first season, there is no way Philly were drafting a PG going into that spot. The fact that MCW's progress stalled and he is much older then your regular 2nd year guy lead to them trading him and gaining another asset in the Lakers pick. Exum has looked horrible and nowhere near anything more then a bench guy. An injured Embiid holds more value then Exum right now. High quality bigs are so coveted in the league that guys like Kwame hung around for 15 years even though they were terrible. Average players like Jordan are getting max contracts when they are nothing more then a good defensive player that can only catch lobs.
Basically normal teams who have their supposed stud bust/not be able to play because of chronic injuries set severe setbacks. This team without Embiid may not necessarily suffer a SEVERE setback because of how it is currently constructed. They may have lost a potential cornerstone of this team but they still have Nerlens and Okafor. Stauskas fills a necessary role and could be there for the long haul in whatever role that comes to be defined as. Dario Saric is a special talent and seems like he wants to come over as early as next season. On top of that, they have four potential first round picks coming in next season.
Normal teams go back to the drawing board at this point. This isn't necessarily a normal team though. This was part of the risk in drafting this guy. This isn't some shocking thing out of left field. This exact scenario is why they went through two years of tanking while accumulating draft picks.
A good number of first rounders either don't pan out or simply turn out to be solid bench/role players (which is not a bad thing). So what Hinkie is doing is trying to increase his odds of drafting a franchise player or two by stacking the deck. I think it's a smart play. Draft a whole bunch of guys over a 3 or 4 year period and hope that a few of them turn into cornerstone players, knowing full well a bunch won't. Take some gambles along the way. That is exactly what Embiid is. A calculated risk. If he doesn't pan out you are no worse off. It was a 3 player draft and you got one of the 3.
Had Philly ended up drafting Parker or Randle they would have also been without their first round pick for a year. It is a setback, it doesn't mean he is done. The fact that he grew 2 inches while the injury was healing could be the main reason that the setback occurred. Give it time, let it play out, if he misses next season as well then you have an issue. They did get their insurance policy in Okafor.
And just a side note, Billy King went full King mode and signed Andrea Bargnani away from the Kings
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It's not a terrible pick. They had the chance to take the number one rated player in the draft with the highest ceiling and your potential franchise guy. You have to take him. Who do they draft instead? Exum? Dude is on the court and doing just as much as Embiid.
we debated this last year, we can continue to every year/game this guy doesnt play :-X
there wasnt much at that pick though that has done anything. So it was a calcualted risk. As Matt said I would actually still rather have Embiid than most of the guys avialblae at that pick even now.
w0w
with Philly's current roster as if you wouldnt want to slot Exum in at PG, he isnt getting quality minutes like he would on a car crash squad like the 76ers, could have inflated numbers and be a better asset already than Embroken will ever be, big guys never get more durable, scratch that nobody ever gets more durable :D
Steph curry had big big ankle injuries. He is looking more durable. I know he is a guard but he beats the nobody test.
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Quote from: Mat0369 on July 12, 2015, 10:54:31 PM
It's not a terrible pick. They had the chance to take the number one rated player in the draft with the highest ceiling and your potential franchise guy. You have to take him. Who do they draft instead? Exum? Dude is on the court and doing just as much as Embiid.
we debated this last year, we can continue to every year/game this guy doesnt play :-X
there wasnt much at that pick though that has done anything. So it was a calcualted risk. As Matt said I would actually still rather have Embiid than most of the guys avialblae at that pick even now.
w0w
with Philly's current roster as if you wouldnt want to slot Exum in at PG, he isnt getting quality minutes like he would on a car crash squad like the 76ers, could have inflated numbers and be a better asset already than Embroken will ever be, big guys never get more durable, scratch that nobody ever gets more durable :D
Steph curry had big big ankle injuries. He is looking more durable. I know he is a guard but he beats the nobody test.
Dominique Wilkins came back from the a bad achilles injury just like a lot of guys who never made it back, he was ana absolute beast when he came back, another example.
Also have to agree with Mat here, no way you take Exum over Embiid, 76ers were still tanking so a year off with surgery didn't matter, i'd be a little worried now with another surgery coming on, but Exum will be at best a nomad role player and starter when someone's injured.
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And just a side note, Billy King went full King mode and signed Andrea Bargnani away from the Kings
As someone who wants the Nets to be as bad as possible, this is music to my ears.
There is a middle ground to the navicular in terms of history in the NBA. A guy like Jordan (although much smaller) made a full recovery and never had an issue with it again. Someone like Yao it ended his career. The middle ground is Big Z who had a couple of years where it caused him issues before he was able to come back and play some good basketball.
Quote from: Jayman on July 13, 2015, 03:17:25 PM
As someone who wants the Nets to be as bad as possible, this is music to my ears.
The Nets are going to be a horrible franchise for as long as Billy King is in charge.
mmm disagree but anyways no point banging our heads against the wall
just found Jaymans first tattoo digging for sketches :D
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Needs more Truth.
http://espn.go.com/nba/story/_/id/13246647/oklahoma-city-thunder-match-enes-kanter-offer-sheet-portland-trail-blazers
they really r gonna be a tough matchup for any team
still no word on TT and LeBron has re signed, could Thompson be out?
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http://espn.go.com/nba/story/_/id/13246647/oklahoma-city-thunder-match-enes-kanter-offer-sheet-portland-trail-blazers
they really r gonna be a tough matchup for any team
still no word on TT and LeBron has re signed, could Thompson be out?
I wish Kanter luck trying to defend Duncan or Aldridge in a playoff series :-X
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http://espn.go.com/nba/story/_/id/13246647/oklahoma-city-thunder-match-enes-kanter-offer-sheet-portland-trail-blazers
they really r gonna be a tough matchup for any team
still no word on TT and LeBron has re signed, could Thompson be out?
I wish Kanter luck trying to defend Duncan or Aldridge in a playoff series :-X
good luck to Parker defending Westbrook and Kawhi on KD ;)
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http://espn.go.com/nba/story/_/id/13246647/oklahoma-city-thunder-match-enes-kanter-offer-sheet-portland-trail-blazers
they really r gonna be a tough matchup for any team
still no word on TT and LeBron has re signed, could Thompson be out?
I wish Kanter luck trying to defend Duncan or Aldridge in a playoff series :-X
good luck to Parker defending Westbrook and Kawhi on KD ;)
Danny Green says hey :P
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http://espn.go.com/nba/story/_/id/13246647/oklahoma-city-thunder-match-enes-kanter-offer-sheet-portland-trail-blazers
they really r gonna be a tough matchup for any team
still no word on TT and LeBron has re signed, could Thompson be out?
I wish Kanter luck trying to defend Duncan or Aldridge in a playoff series :-X
good luck to Parker defending Westbrook and Kawhi on KD ;)
Danny Green says hey :P
Paul Pierce Griff Jordan say hey
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http://espn.go.com/nba/story/_/id/13246647/oklahoma-city-thunder-match-enes-kanter-offer-sheet-portland-trail-blazers
they really r gonna be a tough matchup for any team
still no word on TT and LeBron has re signed, could Thompson be out?
I wish Kanter luck trying to defend Duncan or Aldridge in a playoff series :-X
good luck to Parker defending Westbrook and Kawhi on KD ;)
Danny Green says hey :P
Paul Pierce Griff Jordan say hey
Top of the west is going to be so strong. Warriors, Spurs, OKC, Clippers. I hope they all stay injury free and we get to see them in the last four.
Right now, I'd say Spurs > Warriors > Clippers > OKC.
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http://espn.go.com/nba/story/_/id/13246647/oklahoma-city-thunder-match-enes-kanter-offer-sheet-portland-trail-blazers
they really r gonna be a tough matchup for any team
still no word on TT and LeBron has re signed, could Thompson be out?
I wish Kanter luck trying to defend Duncan or Aldridge in a playoff series :-X
good luck to Parker defending Westbrook and Kawhi on KD ;)
Danny Green says hey :P
Paul Pierce Griff Jordan say hey
Top of the west is going to be so strong. Warriors, Spurs, OKC, Clippers. I hope they all stay injury free and we get to see them in the last four.
Right now, I'd say Spurs > Warriors > Clippers > OKC.
^ OKC got rid of all their injury bad luck last year ;)
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http://espn.go.com/nba/story/_/id/13246647/oklahoma-city-thunder-match-enes-kanter-offer-sheet-portland-trail-blazers
they really r gonna be a tough matchup for any team
still no word on TT and LeBron has re signed, could Thompson be out?
I wish Kanter luck trying to defend Duncan or Aldridge in a playoff series :-X
good luck to Parker defending Westbrook and Kawhi on KD ;)
Danny Green says hey :P
Paul Pierce Griff Jordan say hey
Top of the west is going to be so strong. Warriors, Spurs, OKC, Clippers. I hope they all stay injury free and we get to see them in the last four.
Right now, I'd say Spurs > Warriors > Clippers > OKC.
^ OKC got rid of all their injury bad luck last year ;)
Spurs > Thunder > Clippers >>>> Warriors
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http://espn.go.com/nba/story/_/id/13246647/oklahoma-city-thunder-match-enes-kanter-offer-sheet-portland-trail-blazers
they really r gonna be a tough matchup for any team
still no word on TT and LeBron has re signed, could Thompson be out?
I wish Kanter luck trying to defend Duncan or Aldridge in a playoff series :-X
good luck to Parker defending Westbrook and Kawhi on KD ;)
Danny Green says hey :P
Paul Pierce Griff Jordan say hey
Top of the west is going to be so strong. Warriors, Spurs, OKC, Clippers. I hope they all stay injury free and we get to see them in the last four.
Right now, I'd say Spurs > Warriors > Clippers > OKC.
^ OKC got rid of all their injury bad luck last year ;)
True, but there's a problem.. They only have 3 good players. I actually think Memphis can beat them if they get matched up. I like the Grizzlies this season.
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they really r gonna be a tough matchup for any team
still no word on TT and LeBron has re signed, could Thompson be out?
I wish Kanter luck trying to defend Duncan or Aldridge in a playoff series :-X
good luck to Parker defending Westbrook and Kawhi on KD ;)
Danny Green says hey :P
Paul Pierce Griff Jordan say hey
Top of the west is going to be so strong. Warriors, Spurs, OKC, Clippers. I hope they all stay injury free and we get to see them in the last four.
Right now, I'd say Spurs > Warriors > Clippers > OKC.
^ OKC got rid of all their injury bad luck last year ;)
True, but there's a problem.. They only have 3 good players. I actually think Memphis can beat them if they get matched up. I like the Grizzlies this season.
yes but they have two of the top four players in the world.
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http://espn.go.com/nba/story/_/id/13246647/oklahoma-city-thunder-match-enes-kanter-offer-sheet-portland-trail-blazers
they really r gonna be a tough matchup for any team
still no word on TT and LeBron has re signed, could Thompson be out?
I wish Kanter luck trying to defend Duncan or Aldridge in a playoff series :-X
good luck to Parker defending Westbrook and Kawhi on KD ;)
Danny Green says hey :P
Paul Pierce Griff Jordan say hey
Top of the west is going to be so strong. Warriors, Spurs, OKC, Clippers. I hope they all stay injury free and we get to see them in the last four.
Right now, I'd say Spurs > Warriors > Clippers > OKC.
^ OKC got rid of all their injury bad luck last year ;)
True, but there's a problem.. They only have 3 good players. I actually think Memphis can beat them if they get matched up. I like the Grizzlies this season.
yes but they have two of the top four players in the world.
Westbrook top four? :-X
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http://espn.go.com/nba/story/_/id/13246647/oklahoma-city-thunder-match-enes-kanter-offer-sheet-portland-trail-blazers
they really r gonna be a tough matchup for any team
still no word on TT and LeBron has re signed, could Thompson be out?
I wish Kanter luck trying to defend Duncan or Aldridge in a playoff series :-X
good luck to Parker defending Westbrook and Kawhi on KD ;)
Danny Green says hey :P
Paul Pierce Griff Jordan say hey
Top of the west is going to be so strong. Warriors, Spurs, OKC, Clippers. I hope they all stay injury free and we get to see them in the last four.
Right now, I'd say Spurs > Warriors > Clippers > OKC.
^ OKC got rid of all their injury bad luck last year ;)
True, but there's a problem.. They only have 3 good players. I actually think Memphis can beat them if they get matched up. I like the Grizzlies this season.
yes but they have two of the top four players in the world.
Westbrook top four? :-X
of course
James Durrant Davis clear top 3.
I would take Westbrook over Paul, Curry , Harden, Cousins etc..
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http://espn.go.com/nba/story/_/id/13246647/oklahoma-city-thunder-match-enes-kanter-offer-sheet-portland-trail-blazers
they really r gonna be a tough matchup for any team
still no word on TT and LeBron has re signed, could Thompson be out?
I wish Kanter luck trying to defend Duncan or Aldridge in a playoff series :-X
good luck to Parker defending Westbrook and Kawhi on KD ;)
Danny Green says hey :P
Paul Pierce Griff Jordan say hey
Top of the west is going to be so strong. Warriors, Spurs, OKC, Clippers. I hope they all stay injury free and we get to see them in the last four.
Right now, I'd say Spurs > Warriors > Clippers > OKC.
^ OKC got rid of all their injury bad luck last year ;)
True, but there's a problem.. They only have 3 good players. I actually think Memphis can beat them if they get matched up. I like the Grizzlies this season.
yes but they have two of the top four players in the world.
Westbrook top four? :-X
of course
James Durrant Davis clear top 3.
I would take Westbrook over Paul, Curry , Harden, Cousins etc..
Wow! I think CP3 and Curry are clearly superior to Russ...
CP3 maybe but certainly not Curry.
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CP3 maybe but certainly not Curry.
Maybe we'll settle this after we complete the upcoming NBA season draft game? ;)
coming off that horrendous leg injury is it smart to move him to the 4 where he will battle heavier stronger guys :-\
http://espn.go.com/nba/story/_/id/13256880/larry-bird-indiana-pacers-our-decision-paul-george-position-switch
who wants Ty Lawson still? dude is a car crash
http://espn.go.com/nba/story/_/id/13254600/ty-lawson-denver-nuggets-arrested-suspicion-dui-second-january
Glad we didnt go looking for Ty Lawson (prob lost his chance when he was smoking a hookah)
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coming off that horrendous leg injury is it smart to move him to the 4 where he will battle heavier stronger guys :-\
http://espn.go.com/nba/story/_/id/13256880/larry-bird-indiana-pacers-our-decision-paul-george-position-switch
who wants Ty Lawson still? dude is a car crash
http://espn.go.com/nba/story/_/id/13254600/ty-lawson-denver-nuggets-arrested-suspicion-dui-second-january
If I was Dallas, I would've taken a shot with him rather than D-Will.
http://espn.go.com/nba/story/_/id/13269892/josh-smith-play-los-angeles-clippers ;D
http://cowbellkingdom.com/kings-void-contract-of-luc-mbah-a-moute/
Luc Mbah a Moute failed his medical - Kings have voided the contract.
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http://cowbellkingdom.com/kings-void-contract-of-luc-mbah-a-moute/
Luc Mbah a Moute failed his medical - Kings have voided the contract.
w0w, no details on the how either ???
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http://cowbellkingdom.com/kings-void-contract-of-luc-mbah-a-moute/
Luc Mbah a Moute failed his medical - Kings have voided the contract.
w0w, no details on the how either ???
Nope, no media report I have read explains how he failed his medical :(
Every report just says this:
Mbah a Moute failed a physical examination administered by team medical staff.
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http://espn.go.com/nba/story/_/id/13269892/josh-smith-play-los-angeles-clippers ;D
The trend of Doc signing guys who have a big game against them continues ;D
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Every report just says this:
Mbah a Moute failed a physical examination administered by team medical staff.
surely it will leak eventually
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http://espn.go.com/nba/story/_/id/13269892/josh-smith-play-los-angeles-clippers ;D
The trend of Doc signing guys who have a big game against them continues ;D
they were that poor at the wing u would have to say its an upgrade :D (PP not inc)
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Every report just says this:
Mbah a Moute failed a physical examination administered by team medical staff.
surely it will leak eventually
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http://espn.go.com/nba/story/_/id/13269892/josh-smith-play-los-angeles-clippers ;D
The trend of Doc signing guys who have a big game against them continues ;D
they were that poor at the wing u would have to say its an upgrade :D (PP not inc)
Oh yeah definitely an upgrade. Anyone that's an average NBA player will be really useful for the Clipps after the implosion they had last year..
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who wants Ty Lawson still? dude is a car crash
http://espn.go.com/nba/story/_/id/13254600/ty-lawson-denver-nuggets-arrested-suspicion-dui-second-january
Houston bite. http://sports.yahoo.com/news/sources--nuggets-trade-guard-ty-lawson-to-rockets-012827302.html
I guess they didn't give up much, but I don't like the fit next to Harden. Prefer Beverley :-X
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Every report just says this:
Mbah a Moute failed a physical examination administered by team medical staff.
surely it will leak eventually
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http://espn.go.com/nba/story/_/id/13269892/josh-smith-play-los-angeles-clippers ;D
The trend of Doc signing guys who have a big game against them continues ;D
they were that poor at the wing u would have to say its an upgrade :D (PP not inc)
Oh yeah definitely an upgrade. Anyone that's an average NBA player will be really useful for the Clipps after the implosion they had last year..
I think they did exactly what they needed too. It was clear they need depth and a SF.
Smith Pierce Stephenson if they just had one of them last year I reckon they would have taken the chip.
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who wants Ty Lawson still? dude is a car crash
http://espn.go.com/nba/story/_/id/13254600/ty-lawson-denver-nuggets-arrested-suspicion-dui-second-january
Houston bite. http://sports.yahoo.com/news/sources--nuggets-trade-guard-ty-lawson-to-rockets-012827302.html
I guess they didn't give up much, but I don't like the fit next to Harden. Prefer Beverley :-X
I don't completely hate it, if you can get a (Borderline) All Star for Kostas P and a protected first then get him I reckon
Low-risk deal if he can keep the off court problems in check.
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who wants Ty Lawson still? dude is a car crash
http://espn.go.com/nba/story/_/id/13254600/ty-lawson-denver-nuggets-arrested-suspicion-dui-second-january
Houston bite. http://sports.yahoo.com/news/sources--nuggets-trade-guard-ty-lawson-to-rockets-012827302.html
I guess they didn't give up much, but I don't like the fit next to Harden. Prefer Beverley :-X
I don't completely hate it, if you can get a (Borderline) All Star for Kostas P and a protected first then get him I reckon
Low-risk deal if he can keep the off court problems in check.
Yeah, I'd use him as an instant offense 6th man on this team actually.
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who wants Ty Lawson still? dude is a car crash
http://espn.go.com/nba/story/_/id/13254600/ty-lawson-denver-nuggets-arrested-suspicion-dui-second-january
Houston bite. http://sports.yahoo.com/news/sources--nuggets-trade-guard-ty-lawson-to-rockets-012827302.html
I guess they didn't give up much, but I don't like the fit next to Harden. Prefer Beverley :-X
I don't completely hate it, if you can get a (Borderline) All Star for Kostas P and a protected first then get him I reckon
Low-risk deal if he can keep the off court problems in check.
Yeah, I'd use him as an instant offense 6th man on this team actually.
yeah its a hail mary but they may as well with everyone else in the west upgrading, 1.Beverly 2.Lawson 3.Harden?
does anyone else still think its a lowball offer? ino he is a car crash but wow they got nothing for him really
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who wants Ty Lawson still? dude is a car crash
http://espn.go.com/nba/story/_/id/13254600/ty-lawson-denver-nuggets-arrested-suspicion-dui-second-january
Houston bite. http://sports.yahoo.com/news/sources--nuggets-trade-guard-ty-lawson-to-rockets-012827302.html
I guess they didn't give up much, but I don't like the fit next to Harden. Prefer Beverley :-X
I don't completely hate it, if you can get a (Borderline) All Star for Kostas P and a protected first then get him I reckon
Low-risk deal if he can keep the off court problems in check.
Yeah, I'd use him as an instant offense 6th man on this team actually.
yeah its a hail mary but they may as well with everyone else in the west upgrading, 1.Beverly 2.Lawson 3.Harden?
does anyone else still think its a lowball offer? ino he is a car crash but wow they got nothing for him really
Rockets bought low for sure and the Nuggets really like Mudiay, rated him in their top 2 at the draft
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who wants Ty Lawson still? dude is a car crash
http://espn.go.com/nba/story/_/id/13254600/ty-lawson-denver-nuggets-arrested-suspicion-dui-second-january
Houston bite. http://sports.yahoo.com/news/sources--nuggets-trade-guard-ty-lawson-to-rockets-012827302.html
I guess they didn't give up much, but I don't like the fit next to Harden. Prefer Beverley :-X
I don't completely hate it, if you can get a (Borderline) All Star for Kostas P and a protected first then get him I reckon
Low-risk deal if he can keep the off court problems in check.
Yeah, I'd use him as an instant offense 6th man on this team actually.
yeah its a hail mary but they may as well with everyone else in the west upgrading, 1.Beverly 2.Lawson 3.Harden?
does anyone else still think its a lowball offer? ino he is a car crash but wow they got nothing for him really
Rockets bought low for sure and the Nuggets really like Mudiay, rated him in their top 2 at the draft
I think if Denver had just held Lawson for the first 20 games of the season and let him re-establish some value, they could have got a much better deal than this one. Maybe they just want to hand the keys over to Mudiay ASAP though - and I don't blame them. Kid can play.
Most likely just want to hand the keys over to Mudiay now. They get rid of some baggage with Ty as well
Imagine if Lawson spudded it up in those games, then you've got a Josh Smith situation potentially where they would have to pay him to leave. Not a gamble I'd take
Kings sign Duje Dukan and Quincy Acy to 2 year deals.
Dukan is a stretch 4 and looking forward to chanting "HA-DUKAN" every time he hits a 3. Not certain how much playing time either will get at this stage but both reasonable bench cover.
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Imagine if Lawson spudded it up in those games, then you've got a Josh Smith situation potentially where they would have to pay him to leave. Not a gamble I'd take
Yeah probably fair enough. The writing was on the wall that he was gone, so that probably ruined a lot of his value anyway, plus all the off-court stuff. He's a good player though, a solid top 15 PG.
Where does it put Houston in the west now? I still have the Spurs, GSW, OKC, Clipps and Memphis above them.
Rumors going around that the reason they had to do the surgery is because Embiid actually re-broke the foot.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a1iunhwzTG0
Kings just signed Seth Curry to a 2 year deal (2nd year is player option).
Celtics 2nd round pick, Marcus Thornton is coming to play in Aus! ;D ;D ;D
http://www.masslive.com/celtics/index.ssf/2015/07/boston_celtics_rumors_2015_dra.html
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http://www.masslive.com/celtics/index.ssf/2015/07/boston_celtics_rumors_2015_dra.html
I'll be there when he comes to Adelaide! The kid can play.. Will light up our showerty league
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http://www.masslive.com/celtics/index.ssf/2015/07/boston_celtics_rumors_2015_dra.html
I'll be there when he comes to Adelaide! The kid can play.. Will light up our showerty league
w0w so they wernt even keeping all the draft picks ???
(https://i.imgflip.com/oivyw.jpg)
Celts would have had 17 on the roster if they kept all their picks haha
Also, Bill Simmons landed a deal with HBO! Expecting heaps of great content from him now
http://deadspin.com/bill-simmons-to-host-weekly-hbo-show-starting-in-2016-1719516197
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Celts would have had 17 on the roster if they kept all their picks haha
Also, Bill Simmons landed a deal with HBO! Expecting heaps of great content from him now
http://deadspin.com/bill-simmons-to-host-weekly-hbo-show-starting-in-2016-1719516197
YES! ;D ;D
Quote from: valkorum on July 17, 2015, 10:43:23 AM
http://cowbellkingdom.com/kings-void-contract-of-luc-mbah-a-moute/
Luc Mbah a Moute failed his medical - Kings have voided the contract.
Divac just said that he failed due to a shoulder issue.
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http://cowbellkingdom.com/kings-void-contract-of-luc-mbah-a-moute/
Luc Mbah a Moute failed his medical - Kings have voided the contract.
Divac just said that he failed due to a shoulder issue.
thats ok, nothing unprofessional, can they resign him now to a lesser deal?
this is awkward :D
http://espn.go.com/los-angeles/nba/story/_/id/13302626/kobe-bryant-yet-talk-new-los-angeles-lakers-players-brandon-bass-lou-williams-roy-hibbert
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Quote from: valkorum on July 17, 2015, 10:43:23 AM
http://cowbellkingdom.com/kings-void-contract-of-luc-mbah-a-moute/
Luc Mbah a Moute failed his medical - Kings have voided the contract.
Divac just said that he failed due to a shoulder issue.
thats ok, nothing unprofessional, can they resign him now to a lesser deal?
We dont have roster space at the moment. We currently have 16 players signed so we still have to cut someone. From memory 2 contracts have expiry dates and then they become guaranteed.
Just some early regular season predictions because it's the boring part of the off-season :(
West:
1. Golden State Warriors
2. San Antonio Spurs
3. Los Angeles Clippers
4. Oklahoma City Thunder
5. Memphis Grizzlies
6. Houston Rockets
7. New Orleans Pelicans
8. Utah Jazz
9. Phoenix Suns
10. Sacremento Kings
11. Dallas Mavericks
12. Los Angeles Lakers
13. Minnesota Timberwolves
14. Portland Trailblazers
15. Denver Nuggets
East:
1. Cleveland Cavaliers
2. Miami Heat
3. Atlanta Hawks
4. Chicago Bulls
5. Washington Wizards
6. Toronto Raptors
7. Boston Celtics
8. Milwaukee Bucks
9. Indiana Pacers
10. Detroit Pistons
11. New York Knicks
12. Charlotte Hornets
13. Brooklyn Nets
14. Orlando Magic
15. Philadelphia 76ers
Portland are bad but with Lillard I don't think they are that bad
Quote from: R.Griffen on July 27, 2015, 09:34:06 PM
Portland are bad but with Lillard I don't think they are that bad
True, that's one I'm struggling to place. Are they better than Minnesota? I'm not sure...
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Portland are bad but with Lillard I don't think they are that bad
True, that's one I'm struggling to place. Are they better than Minnesota? I'm not sure...
I reckon they are better than the lakers though. Timberwolves easy over both though.
Towns Lavine Garnett Wiggins Rubio is solid. Probably a playoff team in the east
Heat trade Z Dragon to Celtics
http://basketball.realgm.com/wiretap/238877/Heat-Trade-Zoran-Dragic-To-Celtics
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Quote from: R.Griffen on July 27, 2015, 09:34:06 PM
Portland are bad but with Lillard I don't think they are that bad
True, that's one I'm struggling to place. Are they better than Minnesota? I'm not sure...
I reckon they are better than the lakers though. Timberwolves easy over both though.
Towns Lavine Garnett Wiggins Rubio is solid. Probably a playoff team in the east
Yeah I'm banking on Kobe being healthy.. Probably not smart :-X
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Heat trade Z Dragon to Celtics
http://basketball.realgm.com/wiretap/238877/Heat-Trade-Zoran-Dragic-To-Celtics
stepping out of Gorans shadow finally, been on the same teams from day dot i believe
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Quote from: R.Griffen on July 27, 2015, 09:34:06 PM
Portland are bad but with Lillard I don't think they are that bad
True, that's one I'm struggling to place. Are they better than Minnesota? I'm not sure...
I reckon they are better than the lakers though. Timberwolves easy over both though.
Towns Lavine Garnett Wiggins Rubio is solid. Probably a playoff team in the east
Yeah I'm banking on Kobe being healthy.. Probably not smart :-X
Even a healthy kobe cant do that much. Depends more on if Hibberd can be somewhat close to what he was a few years ago. Along with Russell and Randle.
News that Jayman will be happy to hear - Celtics did make a play to move up the draft order to get Justice Winslow
http://basketball.realgm.com/wiretap/238887/Celtics-Offered-Four-First-Rounders-To-Hornets-For-No-9
Just some NBL updates.
Jordan Mcrae and Scott Wilbekin could be playing for the 76'ers this year.
Perth Wildcats have signed former Florida Gators amd D-League player Casey Prathers, highlight reel looks decent although his numbers aren't incredible. I think the prerequisite at the Cats is to find a SF who can dunk, no other experience necessary, haha.
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News that Jayman will be happy to hear - Celtics did make a play to move up the draft order to get Justice Winslow
http://basketball.realgm.com/wiretap/238887/Celtics-Offered-Four-First-Rounders-To-Hornets-For-No-9
I can't believe Charlotte turned that offer down to take Kaminsky. >:(
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Quote from: valkorum on July 29, 2015, 10:35:33 AM
News that Jayman will be happy to hear - Celtics did make a play to move up the draft order to get Justice Winslow
http://basketball.realgm.com/wiretap/238887/Celtics-Offered-Four-First-Rounders-To-Hornets-For-No-9
I can't believe Charlotte turned that offer down to take Kaminsky. >:(
yeah that is bananas :o
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Quote from: valkorum on July 29, 2015, 10:35:33 AM
News that Jayman will be happy to hear - Celtics did make a play to move up the draft order to get Justice Winslow
http://basketball.realgm.com/wiretap/238887/Celtics-Offered-Four-First-Rounders-To-Hornets-For-No-9
I can't believe Charlotte turned that offer down to take Kaminsky. >:(
yeah that is bananas :o
If they took Winslow I could understand it..
https://youtu.be/nAO7dIXDZkA?t=44s lolz so hard ;D
;D ;D
Quote from: RiOtChEsS on July 30, 2015, 10:39:39 AM
https://youtu.be/nAO7dIXDZkA?t=44s lolz so hard ;D
Oi, lay off The Truth :P
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KGnTSu0orgc
Kings have cut their list to 15 now with the waiving of Eric Moreland's contract (was guaranteed if kept after August 1st)
http://www.sactownroyalty.com/2015/7/29/9067747/sacramento-kings-to-waive-eric-moreland
Kings hire Nancy Lieberman as assistant coach
http://cowbellkingdom.com/report-kings-hire-nancy-lieberman-as-assistant/
Late you flowering kidding me. Golden State made a trade for my least favourite player in the NBA.
Jason Thompson over paid spud
For
Gerald Wallace and exachange of picks or something
Quote from: R.Griffen on August 01, 2015, 10:35:33 AM
Late you flowering kidding me. Golden State made a trade for my least favourite player in the NBA.
Jason Thompson over paid spud
For
Gerald Wallace and exachange of picks or something
And cash considerations apparently - so prob the difference in salaries. JT is on around $6.5m
Wallace will likely be a straight cut. The reason Philly have apparently done it is so they can make room for Holmes/Tokoto. It is also a pick swap I think so that means that they can swap the OKC/Heat pick if it manages to somehow be worse then the Warriors one.
http://ftw.usatoday.com/2015/08/nba-impersonator-returns-with-an-oscar-worthy-rendition-of-kobe-bryant
Worth a watch, along with Duncan and Harden
Quote from: Holz on August 04, 2015, 03:13:00 PM
http://ftw.usatoday.com/2015/08/nba-impersonator-returns-with-an-oscar-worthy-rendition-of-kobe-bryant
Worth a watch, along with Duncan and Harden
He's brilliant isn't he. The Paul Pierce one was absolutely spot on.
http://clipperholics.com/2015/07/27/video-nba-impersonator-takes-on-clippers-paul-pierce/
The boys from RealGM broke down the worst trades since 2011 on their podcast today. Was a good listen if you've got an hour to kill.
No surprise what came out as the worst... James Harden for Kevin Martin, Jeremy Lamb and future picks. Only one of which has turned out to be decent (Steven Adams), while Kevin Martin left after one season and Jeremy Lamb was dumped by OKC because he's not very good.
I don't think any even comes close to as bad as that.
Exum ACL, poor guy
By the way is anyone here going to any of the the LSU Tour Down Under games?
Markieff Morris wants out of Phoenix.
Go Ainge Go.
disappointing for Exum - did I read right an ACL??
Quote from: Jayman on August 07, 2015, 09:19:22 AM
Markieff Morris wants out of Phoenix.
Go Ainge Go.
Oi Jayman - leave my team alone! :P
We're already middling as it is ... ;)
I actually think we're sort of '76ers-lite' ... and i'd be ok with that - ie drafting for the next superstar, because there's no way Phoenix would be able to attract a franchise FA ... ::) ;)
Phoenix already off-loaded his twin brother Marcus to be in the race for Aldridge so ...
It's ok, his demeanour and body language last year weren't quite there so, so long as we get a decent return i'm ok with this ... :)
Quote from: j959 on August 07, 2015, 12:36:14 PM
disappointing for Exum - did I read right an ACL??
Quote from: Jayman on August 07, 2015, 09:19:22 AM
Markieff Morris wants out of Phoenix.
Go Ainge Go.
Oi Jayman - leave my team alone! :P
We're already middling as it is ... ;)
I actually think we're sort of '76ers-lite' ... and i'd be ok with that - ie drafting for the next superstar, because there's no way Phoenix would be able to attract a franchise FA ... ::) ;)
Phoenix already off-loaded his twin brother Marcus to be in the race for Aldridge so ...
It's ok, his demeanour and body language last year weren't quite there so, so long as we get a decent return i'm ok with this ... :)
Yeah, Exum ACL :'( I still think they can make the playoffs, but it'll be bit tougher as now they'll have to play Burke more - who is truly horrid.
Here's the article on Morris: http://www.cbssports.com/nba/eye-on-basketball/25262195/report-markieff-morris-becomes-the-latest-sun-to-want-out-of-phoenix
I don't think Morris will ever be a star, but I'd be happy to give a first rounder or two for him ;)
Quote from: Jayman on August 07, 2015, 09:39:55 PM
Quote from: j959 on August 07, 2015, 12:36:14 PM
disappointing for Exum - did I read right an ACL??
Quote from: Jayman on August 07, 2015, 09:19:22 AM
Markieff Morris wants out of Phoenix.
Go Ainge Go.
Oi Jayman - leave my team alone! :P
We're already middling as it is ... ;)
I actually think we're sort of '76ers-lite' ... and i'd be ok with that - ie drafting for the next superstar, because there's no way Phoenix would be able to attract a franchise FA ... ::) ;)
Phoenix already off-loaded his twin brother Marcus to be in the race for Aldridge so ...
It's ok, his demeanour and body language last year weren't quite there so, so long as we get a decent return i'm ok with this ... :)
Yeah, Exum ACL :'( I still think they can make the playoffs, but it'll be bit tougher as now they'll have to play Burke more - who is truly horrid.
Here's the article on Morris: http://www.cbssports.com/nba/eye-on-basketball/25262195/report-markieff-morris-becomes-the-latest-sun-to-want-out-of-phoenix
I don't think Morris will ever be a star, but I'd be happy to give a first rounder or two for him ;)
i wouldnt want to give up much for him, these guys will be a dime a dozen sooner rather than later
Schedule comes out shortly.
http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2547748-austin-rivers-says-hes-better-than-a-lot-of-players-who-played-in-usa-scrimmage
Ummmm
Austin is a good player but NO WAY is he better than any of the guys who suited up for the EXHIBITION SCRIMMAGE game.
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CMu9_ziWgAErxpy.jpg)
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(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CMu9YALUsAArZ9H.png)
A young big man with those kind of injuries. I'm still very wary, even if the surgery went great.
Being a young guy though he should have a better chance of recovery compared to an older player.
they are hardly going to release a statement depreciating their asset
http://www.tmz.com/2015/08/26/derrick-rose-sued-for-gang-rape/
Quote from: Mat0369 on August 27, 2015, 06:12:03 PM
http://www.tmz.com/2015/08/26/derrick-rose-sued-for-gang-rape/
I hope this is utter bullshower. :'( Could Rose even walk then?
Far out. Huge news either way (guilty or not guilty)
sounds like bullshower to me
Quote from: RiOtChEsS on August 29, 2015, 09:05:46 AM
sounds like bullshower to me
They said the same thing about Pill Cosby. It does sound far fetched though. Especially since she only wants a payout
Great news this morning! The NBA has announced the league will now seed Playoff teams in each conference by record. Which means division champions will no longer have a guaranteed top-four spot in the Playoffs.
http://www.nba.com/2015/news/09/08/nba-to-seed-conference-playoff-teams-by-record/
Quote from: Jayman on September 09, 2015, 10:48:29 AM
Great news this morning! The NBA has announced the league will now seed Playoff teams in each conference by record. Which means division champions will no longer have a guaranteed top-four spot in the Playoffs.
http://www.nba.com/2015/news/09/08/nba-to-seed-conference-playoff-teams-by-record/
this is huge, without this i think we would have a different NBA champion this year.
Quote from: Holz on September 09, 2015, 11:18:59 AM
Quote from: Jayman on September 09, 2015, 10:48:29 AM
Great news this morning! The NBA has announced the league will now seed Playoff teams in each conference by record. Which means division champions will no longer have a guaranteed top-four spot in the Playoffs.
http://www.nba.com/2015/news/09/08/nba-to-seed-conference-playoff-teams-by-record/
this is huge, without this i think we would have a different NBA champion this year.
So glad they've pulled the trigger though. Am loving the new commissioner so far.
Means we wouldn't have had Portland get the #4 seed over the Spurs just because they won the division. Could have avoided 2 of the best 4 teams being matched up in the first round (Spurs, Clipps).
this is great 8)
Metta World Peace close to a 1-year deal with the Lakers...
Quote from: Jayman on September 10, 2015, 12:49:17 PM
Metta World Peace close to a 1-year deal with the Lakers...
Ughhhhh.
Would the Clips bench beat the Lakers this year?
Quote from: My Chumps on September 10, 2015, 03:23:28 PM
Quote from: Jayman on September 10, 2015, 12:49:17 PM
Metta World Peace close to a 1-year deal with the Lakers...
Ughhhhh.
Would the Clips bench beat the Lakers this year?
Austin Rivers, Lance Stephenson, Jamal Crawford, Wesley Johnson, Josh Smith
Vs
Jordan Clarkson, D'Angelo Russell, Kobe Bryant, Brandon Bass, Roy Hibbert
Would be close :P
League Pass has gone up to $330 :(
No way I'm forking out that. I think I'll just buy all the Celtics games for $170. And then grab the league pass playoffs package. Does anyone remember how much the playoffs only package costs?
Quote from: Jayman on September 15, 2015, 09:55:28 PM
League Pass has gone up to $330 :(
No way I'm forking out that. I think I'll just buy all the Celtics games for $170. And then grab the league pass playoffs package. Does anyone remember how much the playoffs only package costs?
Can't remember what the playoffs package cost but its a hell of a lot cheaper than full league pass! Thought about a VPN? I haven't looked into it, but seems like the best way of watching games…or sign up to a sports betting website and watch all the games for free! ;D
Quote from: Jayman on September 15, 2015, 09:55:28 PM
League Pass has gone up to $330 :(
No way I'm forking out that. I think I'll just buy all the Celtics games for $170. And then grab the league pass playoffs package. Does anyone remember how much the playoffs only package costs?
Have you tried using Hola?
Cheers guys. Yeah I think it was like $80-odd last year just for the playoffs. But seeing as they go for 3 months and the monthly subscription is $38 I could see it being closer to $115 :-X I presume it's inflated because the Aus dollar only gets you 71 US cents at the moment, so hopefully if that starts trending upwards then the price should come down. But Holz is the economist around here so hopefully he can add something :P
Not sure about the VPN stuff.. But do betting sites really have all the games?! Probably worth signing up just for that! :o
Quote from: Jayman on September 15, 2015, 10:15:33 PM
Cheers guys. Yeah I think it was like $80-odd last year just for the playoffs. But seeing as they go for 3 months and the monthly subscription is $38 I could see it being closer to $115 :-X I presume it's inflated because the Aus dollar only gets you 71 US cents at the moment, so hopefully if that starts trending upwards then the price should come down. But Holz is the economist around here so hopefully he can add something :P
Not sure about the VPN stuff.. But do betting sites really have all the games?! Probably worth signing up just for that! :o
Yeah I don't have the time to watch enough games these days so can't justify buying league pass any more. The bettings sites state they show every game and it's been true on most occasions, but sometimes you can't access games that are being shown on Aus ESPN because I guess Foxtel are paying for those. I use Sportsbet to watch games, it comes in a smaller screen, but I have my laptop hooked up to a big TV so it's good enough for me. I think the other sites that show games (but haven't tried) are bet365 and unibet…They show plenty of other sports live too like soccer, tennis etc.
The deadline passed today for Tristan Thompson to accept the Cavs' 1-year qualifying offer.. Which means they'll have to come to a deal (reportedly are $14 million apart) or there's no TT on the Cavs this year :o
Quote from: Jayman on October 02, 2015, 11:34:42 PM
The deadline passed today for Tristan Thompson to accept the Cavs' 1-year qualifying offer.. Which means they'll have to come to a deal (reportedly are $14 million apart) or there's no TT on the Cavs this year :o
after signing Love i honestly dont know why they're bothering to try sign him, he WAS good for them with Love out, that is an expensive bench guy playing 20 minutes a game
Is Sportsbet broadcasting Nba pre season games?
Quote from: RiOtChEsS on October 04, 2015, 10:51:51 AM
Quote from: Jayman on October 02, 2015, 11:34:42 PM
The deadline passed today for Tristan Thompson to accept the Cavs' 1-year qualifying offer.. Which means they'll have to come to a deal (reportedly are $14 million apart) or there's no TT on the Cavs this year :o
after signing Love i honestly dont know why they're bothering to try sign him, he WAS good for them with Love out, that is an expensive bench guy playing 20 minutes a game
Yep you're right. But the bigger question is 'why didn't TT just accept the Cavs offer' ??? What does he think he's worth? :o
But I'd be surprised if they didn't come to a deal. The biggest criticism during LBJ's first stint in Cleveland was that they didn't spend enough to put as many good players around him as possible ;) Gilbert won't want to piss LBJ off again..
Quote from: Jayman on October 04, 2015, 05:12:46 PM
Yep you're right. But the bigger question is 'why didn't TT just accept the Cavs offer' ??? What does he think he's worth? :o
But I'd be surprised if they didn't come to a deal. The biggest criticism during LBJ's first stint in Cleveland was that they didn't spend enough to put as many good players around him as possible ;) Gilbert won't want to piss LBJ off again..
Gilbert doesnt want to piss off LBJ but he has to be realistic as well
I agree that TT should take the deal.
Quote from: valkorum on October 05, 2015, 12:51:39 PM
Quote from: Jayman on October 04, 2015, 05:12:46 PM
Yep you're right. But the bigger question is 'why didn't TT just accept the Cavs offer' ??? What does he think he's worth? :o
But I'd be surprised if they didn't come to a deal. The biggest criticism during LBJ's first stint in Cleveland was that they didn't spend enough to put as many good players around him as possible ;) Gilbert won't want to piss LBJ off again..
Gilbert doesnt want to piss off LBJ but he has to be realistic as well
I agree that TT should take the deal.
paying 100 mil in luxury tax is trying hard enough, ask Prokorov (whatever his name is) how that worked out for him
Quote from: RiOtChEsS on October 05, 2015, 01:17:12 PM
Quote from: valkorum on October 05, 2015, 12:51:39 PM
Quote from: Jayman on October 04, 2015, 05:12:46 PM
Yep you're right. But the bigger question is 'why didn't TT just accept the Cavs offer' ??? What does he think he's worth? :o
But I'd be surprised if they didn't come to a deal. The biggest criticism during LBJ's first stint in Cleveland was that they didn't spend enough to put as many good players around him as possible ;) Gilbert won't want to piss LBJ off again..
Gilbert doesnt want to piss off LBJ but he has to be realistic as well
I agree that TT should take the deal.
paying 100 mil in luxury tax is trying hard enough, ask Prokorov (whatever his name is) how that worked out for him
this is why maybe you keep wiggins on his low contract and dont go for love. Love was still a really good get.
this is why you sign up TT on a bigish contract last year and not pay through the nose now.
Quote from: Holz on October 05, 2015, 01:21:36 PM
Quote from: RiOtChEsS on October 05, 2015, 01:17:12 PM
Quote from: valkorum on October 05, 2015, 12:51:39 PM
Quote from: Jayman on October 04, 2015, 05:12:46 PM
Yep you're right. But the bigger question is 'why didn't TT just accept the Cavs offer' ??? What does he think he's worth? :o
But I'd be surprised if they didn't come to a deal. The biggest criticism during LBJ's first stint in Cleveland was that they didn't spend enough to put as many good players around him as possible ;) Gilbert won't want to piss LBJ off again..
Gilbert doesnt want to piss off LBJ but he has to be realistic as well
I agree that TT should take the deal.
paying 100 mil in luxury tax is trying hard enough, ask Prokorov (whatever his name is) how that worked out for him
this is why maybe you keep wiggins on his low contract and dont go for love. Love was still a really good get.
this is why you sign up TT on a bigish contract last year and not pay through the nose now.
yeah in hindsight it definitely would have been the better move, drafting Oladipo instead of Bennett wouldnt have hurt either :D
Quote from: RiOtChEsS on October 05, 2015, 01:33:33 PM
Quote from: Holz on October 05, 2015, 01:21:36 PM
Quote from: RiOtChEsS on October 05, 2015, 01:17:12 PM
Quote from: valkorum on October 05, 2015, 12:51:39 PM
Quote from: Jayman on October 04, 2015, 05:12:46 PM
Yep you're right. But the bigger question is 'why didn't TT just accept the Cavs offer' ??? What does he think he's worth? :o
But I'd be surprised if they didn't come to a deal. The biggest criticism during LBJ's first stint in Cleveland was that they didn't spend enough to put as many good players around him as possible ;) Gilbert won't want to piss LBJ off again..
Gilbert doesnt want to piss off LBJ but he has to be realistic as well
I agree that TT should take the deal.
paying 100 mil in luxury tax is trying hard enough, ask Prokorov (whatever his name is) how that worked out for him
this is why maybe you keep wiggins on his low contract and dont go for love. Love was still a really good get.
this is why you sign up TT on a bigish contract last year and not pay through the nose now.
yeah in hindsight it definitely would have been the better move, drafting Oladipo instead of Bennett wouldnt have hurt either :D
I can remember someone was talking up TT like 2-3 years ago. Cant remember who, Jay you have a good memory can you :P
Sullinger got to be going after max money next contract as he is better.
Quote from: RiOtChEsS on October 05, 2015, 01:33:33 PM
Quote from: Holz on October 05, 2015, 01:21:36 PM
Quote from: RiOtChEsS on October 05, 2015, 01:17:12 PM
Quote from: valkorum on October 05, 2015, 12:51:39 PM
Quote from: Jayman on October 04, 2015, 05:12:46 PM
Yep you're right. But the bigger question is 'why didn't TT just accept the Cavs offer' ??? What does he think he's worth? :o
But I'd be surprised if they didn't come to a deal. The biggest criticism during LBJ's first stint in Cleveland was that they didn't spend enough to put as many good players around him as possible ;) Gilbert won't want to piss LBJ off again..
Gilbert doesnt want to piss off LBJ but he has to be realistic as well
I agree that TT should take the deal.
paying 100 mil in luxury tax is trying hard enough, ask Prokorov (whatever his name is) how that worked out for him
this is why maybe you keep wiggins on his low contract and dont go for love. Love was still a really good get.
this is why you sign up TT on a bigish contract last year and not pay through the nose now.
yeah in hindsight it definitely would have been the better move, drafting Oladipo instead of Bennett wouldnt have hurt either :D
Taking Drummond over Waiters might have helped too :P
Quote from: Jayman on October 05, 2015, 01:38:42 PM
Quote from: RiOtChEsS on October 05, 2015, 01:33:33 PM
Quote from: Holz on October 05, 2015, 01:21:36 PM
Quote from: RiOtChEsS on October 05, 2015, 01:17:12 PM
Quote from: valkorum on October 05, 2015, 12:51:39 PM
Quote from: Jayman on October 04, 2015, 05:12:46 PM
Yep you're right. But the bigger question is 'why didn't TT just accept the Cavs offer' ??? What does he think he's worth? :o
But I'd be surprised if they didn't come to a deal. The biggest criticism during LBJ's first stint in Cleveland was that they didn't spend enough to put as many good players around him as possible ;) Gilbert won't want to piss LBJ off again..
Gilbert doesnt want to piss off LBJ but he has to be realistic as well
I agree that TT should take the deal.
paying 100 mil in luxury tax is trying hard enough, ask Prokorov (whatever his name is) how that worked out for him
this is why maybe you keep wiggins on his low contract and dont go for love. Love was still a really good get.
this is why you sign up TT on a bigish contract last year and not pay through the nose now.
yeah in hindsight it definitely would have been the better move, drafting Oladipo instead of Bennett wouldnt have hurt either :D
Taking Drummond over Waiters might have helped too :P
ahahaha maybe Dan Gilbert should give all the keys to LeBron ;)
Preseason
October 2
Nuggets â€" 96 Clippers â€" 103
Lauvergne: 16 Pts. Nelson: 7 Asts. Barton: 13 Rebs
Jordan: 15 Pts. Paul: 9 Asts. Jordan: 12 Rebs
October 3
Hornets â€" 106 Magic â€" 100
Lin: 17 Pts. Walker: 8 Asts. Jefferson: 9 Rebs
Nicholson: 23 Pts. Watson: 5 Asts. Nicholson: 8 Rebs
Pelicans â€" 110 Pacers â€" 105
Davis: 18 Pts. Cole: 3 Asts. Davis: 8 Rebs
George: 18 Pts. Stuckey: 4 Asts. Allen: 8 Rebs
October 4
Hornets â€" 90 Heat â€" 77
Roberts: 21 Pts. Roberts: 3 Asts. Hansbrough: 17 Rebs
Bosh: 14 Pts. Dragic: 6 Asts. Bosh: 7 Rebs
Clippers â€" 73 Raptors â€" 93
Redick: 15 Pts. Paul: 8 Asts. Jordan: 10 Rebs
Lowry: 26 Pts. Lowry: 2 Asts. Valanciunas: 12 Rebs
Jazz â€"90 Lakers â€" 71
Favors: 16 Pts. Neto: 6 Asts. Favors: 9 Rebs
Williams: 14 Pts. Williams: 4 Asts. Hibbert: 10 Rebs
October 5
Fenerbahce Ulker â€" 101 Nets â€" 96
Vesely: 18 Pts. Sloukas: 11 Asts. Udoh: 8 Rebs
Lopez: 18 Pts. Larkin: 5 Asts. Robinson: 16 Rebs.
Kings â€" 109 Blazers â€" 105
Belinelli: 32 Pts. Collison: 10 Asts. Gay: 9 Rebs
Lillard: 17 Pts. McCollum: 4 Asts. Vonleh: 11 Rebs.
Raptors â€" 87 Warriors â€" 95
Carroll: 15 Pts. DeRozan: 4 Asts. Valanciunas: 10 Rebs
Barbosa: 15 Pts. Green: 5 Asts. Green: 6 Rebs.
October 6
Celtics â€" 124 Olimpia Milano â€" 91
Thomas: 18 Pts. Smart: 6 Asts. Lee: 7 Rebs
Gentile: 19 Pts. Cinciarini: 5 Asts. Hummel: 7 Rebs.
Sixers â€" 95 Wizards â€" 129
Noel: 13 Pts. Canaan: 6 Asts. Grant: 8 Rebs
Porter: 22 Pts. Sessions: 10 Asts. Temple: 9 Rebs.
Pacers â€" 115 Pistons â€" 112
George: 32 Pts. Hill: 8 Asts. Whittington: 8 Rebs
Johnson: 26 Pts. Johnson: 4 Asts. Drummond: 9 Rebs.
Bucks â€" 95 Bulls â€" 105
Vaughn: 20 Pts. Gutierrez: 7 Asts. Inglis: 9 Rebs
Butler: 23 Pts. Butler: 6 Asts. Portis: 14 Rebs.
Rockets â€" 89 Grizzlies â€" 92
Ariza: 12 Pts. Cummings: 3 Asts. Howard: 11 Rebs
Smith: 12 Pts. Green:; 3 Asts. Gasol: 8 Rebs.
Nuggets â€" 96 Mavericks â€" 86
Mudiay: 17 Pts. Mudiay: 5 Asts. Lauvergne: 12 Rebs
Villanueva: 18 Pts. Barea: 7 Asts. Pachulia: 8 Rebs.
FB-NBA Updates
http://espn.go.com/nba/story/_/id/13832349/derek-fisher-newyork-knicks-matt-barnes-memphis-grizzlies-scuffle-party ;D ;D ;D
Quote from: RiOtChEsS on October 08, 2015, 10:42:48 AM
http://espn.go.com/nba/story/_/id/13832349/derek-fisher-newyork-knicks-matt-barnes-memphis-grizzlies-scuffle-party ;D ;D ;D
Couldn't make this shower up haha
What about this - an exert from Caron Butlers new book
http://www.news.com.au/sport/american-sports/caron-butlers-inside-account-of-when-two-nba-stars-brought-guns-to-training/story-fnq2nnu6-1227561444851
Quote from: Jayman on October 08, 2015, 11:14:34 AM
Quote from: RiOtChEsS on October 08, 2015, 10:42:48 AM
http://espn.go.com/nba/story/_/id/13832349/derek-fisher-newyork-knicks-matt-barnes-memphis-grizzlies-scuffle-party ;D ;D ;D
Couldn't make this shower up haha
;D ;D ;D
Quote from: valkorum on October 08, 2015, 12:09:37 PM
What about this - an exert from Caron Butlers new book
http://www.news.com.au/sport/american-sports/caron-butlers-inside-account-of-when-two-nba-stars-brought-guns-to-training/story-fnq2nnu6-1227561444851
they never really released too many details around the time of the incident, however 3 years later when Crittenden shot someone i was like :o he wernt flowerin around
Houston @ $17 to win the title seems way too high. That team is stacked this year. :o
Quote from: Jayman on October 08, 2015, 05:10:46 PM
Houston @ $17 to win the title seems way too high. That team is stacked this year. :o
way too lowThe west is completely stacked. Going to be a dog fight, much more then last year. If Spurs Clippers are healthy i cant see teams getting through them. Cavs no joke either.
Quote from: Holz on October 08, 2015, 05:18:12 PM
Quote from: Jayman on October 08, 2015, 05:10:46 PM
Houston @ $17 to win the title seems way too high. That team is stacked this year. :o
way too low
The west is completely stacked. Going to be a dog fight, much more then last year. If Spurs Clippers are healthy i cant see teams getting through them. Cavs no joke either.
The west is stacked, almost a lottery, but I give Houston a real shot. They were the #2 seed last year with not much Dwight Howard, and now you add Ty Lawson... Stacked. The Warriors are the clear favourites, they dominated the west last year and brought everyone relevant back. But I think Houston are right in there with the next tier of Spurs, Clippers, OKC.
Quote from: Jayman on October 09, 2015, 08:44:39 PM
Quote from: Holz on October 08, 2015, 05:18:12 PM
Quote from: Jayman on October 08, 2015, 05:10:46 PM
Houston @ $17 to win the title seems way too high. That team is stacked this year. :o
way too low
The west is completely stacked. Going to be a dog fight, much more then last year. If Spurs Clippers are healthy i cant see teams getting through them. Cavs no joke either.
The west is stacked, almost a lottery, but I give Houston a real shot. They were the #2 seed last year with not much Dwight Howard, and now you add Ty Lawson... Stacked. The Warriors are the clear favourites, they dominated the west last year and brought everyone relevant back. But I think Houston are right in there with the next tier of Spurs, Clippers, OKC.
yeah seeding is gonna be really important in The West, whoever goes 1 and will most likely duke it out in the WCF
Quote from: Jayman on October 09, 2015, 08:44:39 PM
Quote from: Holz on October 08, 2015, 05:18:12 PM
Quote from: Jayman on October 08, 2015, 05:10:46 PM
Houston @ $17 to win the title seems way too high. That team is stacked this year. :o
way too low
The west is completely stacked. Going to be a dog fight, much more then last year. If Spurs Clippers are healthy i cant see teams getting through them. Cavs no joke either.
The west is stacked, almost a lottery, but I give Houston a real shot. They were the #2 seed last year with not much Dwight Howard, and now you add Ty Lawson... Stacked. The Warriors are the clear favourites, they dominated the west last year and brought everyone relevant back. But I think Houston are right in there with the next tier of Spurs, Clippers, OKC.
The Warriors are not favourite.
Thunder clippers Spurs were better just injured. unless masd injuries occur. Warriors dont even make conference finals
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Houston @ $17 to win the title seems way too high. That team is stacked this year. :o
way too low
The west is completely stacked. Going to be a dog fight, much more then last year. If Spurs Clippers are healthy i cant see teams getting through them. Cavs no joke either.
The west is stacked, almost a lottery, but I give Houston a real shot. They were the #2 seed last year with not much Dwight Howard, and now you add Ty Lawson... Stacked. The Warriors are the clear favourites, they dominated the west last year and brought everyone relevant back. But I think Houston are right in there with the next tier of Spurs, Clippers, OKC.
The Warriors are not favourite.
Thunder clippers Spurs were better just injured. unless masd injuries occur. Warriors dont even make conference finals
Did you watch the Warriors last year?
And they will have a faster centre this year - Bogut has dropped 20kg
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Houston @ $17 to win the title seems way too high. That team is stacked this year. :o
way too low
The west is completely stacked. Going to be a dog fight, much more then last year. If Spurs Clippers are healthy i cant see teams getting through them. Cavs no joke either.
The west is stacked, almost a lottery, but I give Houston a real shot. They were the #2 seed last year with not much Dwight Howard, and now you add Ty Lawson... Stacked. The Warriors are the clear favourites, they dominated the west last year and brought everyone relevant back. But I think Houston are right in there with the next tier of Spurs, Clippers, OKC.
The Warriors are not favourite.
Thunder clippers Spurs were better just injured. unless masd injuries occur. Warriors dont even make conference finals
Did you watch the Warriors last year?
Yep they are good like the 4-5 best team if everyone is fit. As I said all year they arent a playoff team. Issue is every single team besides the pelicans weren't anywhere close to 100% maybe Houston but they also wernt a playoff team.
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Houston @ $17 to win the title seems way too high. That team is stacked this year. :o
way too low
The west is completely stacked. Going to be a dog fight, much more then last year. If Spurs Clippers are healthy i cant see teams getting through them. Cavs no joke either.
The west is stacked, almost a lottery, but I give Houston a real shot. They were the #2 seed last year with not much Dwight Howard, and now you add Ty Lawson... Stacked. The Warriors are the clear favourites, they dominated the west last year and brought everyone relevant back. But I think Houston are right in there with the next tier of Spurs, Clippers, OKC.
The Warriors are not favourite.
Thunder clippers Spurs were better just injured. unless masd injuries occur. Warriors dont even make conference finals
Did you watch the Warriors last year?
Yep they are good like the 4-5 best team if everyone is fit. As I said all year they arent a playoff team. Issue is every single team besides the pelicans weren't anywhere close to 100% maybe Houston but they also wernt a playoff team.
They won the championship though, and none of the series' were even close. The Spurs could have avoided the Clippers in the first round, all they had to do was beat Pelicans on the last game of the year, and they couldn't pull it off. Yet they would have beaten Golden State? The Clippers were fit, and collapsed vs Houston.
I know Golden State had a lot of luck, and most other teams didn't, but they still dominated the league last year. I expect them to go back-to-back.
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Houston @ $17 to win the title seems way too high. That team is stacked this year. :o
way too low
The west is completely stacked. Going to be a dog fight, much more then last year. If Spurs Clippers are healthy i cant see teams getting through them. Cavs no joke either.
The west is stacked, almost a lottery, but I give Houston a real shot. They were the #2 seed last year with not much Dwight Howard, and now you add Ty Lawson... Stacked. The Warriors are the clear favourites, they dominated the west last year and brought everyone relevant back. But I think Houston are right in there with the next tier of Spurs, Clippers, OKC.
The Warriors are not favourite.
Thunder clippers Spurs were better just injured. unless masd injuries occur. Warriors dont even make conference finals
Did you watch the Warriors last year?
Yep they are good like the 4-5 best team if everyone is fit. As I said all year they arent a playoff team. Issue is every single team besides the pelicans weren't anywhere close to 100% maybe Houston but they also wernt a playoff team.
They won the championship though, and none of the series' were even close. The Spurs could have avoided the Clippers in the first round, all they had to do was beat Pelicans on the last game of the year, and they couldn't pull it off. Yet they would have beaten Golden State? The Clippers were fit, and collapsed vs Houston.
I know Golden State had a lot of luck, and most other teams didn't, but they still dominated the league last year. I expect them to go back-to-back.
In what world was Chris Paul fit?
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Houston @ $17 to win the title seems way too high. That team is stacked this year. :o
way too low
The west is completely stacked. Going to be a dog fight, much more then last year. If Spurs Clippers are healthy i cant see teams getting through them. Cavs no joke either.
The west is stacked, almost a lottery, but I give Houston a real shot. They were the #2 seed last year with not much Dwight Howard, and now you add Ty Lawson... Stacked. The Warriors are the clear favourites, they dominated the west last year and brought everyone relevant back. But I think Houston are right in there with the next tier of Spurs, Clippers, OKC.
The Warriors are not favourite.
Thunder clippers Spurs were better just injured. unless masd injuries occur. Warriors dont even make conference finals
Did you watch the Warriors last year?
Yep they are good like the 4-5 best team if everyone is fit. As I said all year they arent a playoff team. Issue is every single team besides the pelicans weren't anywhere close to 100% maybe Houston but they also wernt a playoff team.
They won the championship though, and none of the series' were even close. The Spurs could have avoided the Clippers in the first round, all they had to do was beat Pelicans on the last game of the year, and they couldn't pull it off. Yet they would have beaten Golden State? The Clippers were fit, and collapsed vs Houston.
I know Golden State had a lot of luck, and most other teams didn't, but they still dominated the league last year. I expect them to go back-to-back.
In what world was Chris Paul fit?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=du6W_WEbcM0
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Houston @ $17 to win the title seems way too high. That team is stacked this year. :o
way too low
The west is completely stacked. Going to be a dog fight, much more then last year. If Spurs Clippers are healthy i cant see teams getting through them. Cavs no joke either.
The west is stacked, almost a lottery, but I give Houston a real shot. They were the #2 seed last year with not much Dwight Howard, and now you add Ty Lawson... Stacked. The Warriors are the clear favourites, they dominated the west last year and brought everyone relevant back. But I think Houston are right in there with the next tier of Spurs, Clippers, OKC.
The Warriors are not favourite.
Thunder clippers Spurs were better just injured. unless masd injuries occur. Warriors dont even make conference finals
Did you watch the Warriors last year?
Yep they are good like the 4-5 best team if everyone is fit. As I said all year they arent a playoff team. Issue is every single team besides the pelicans weren't anywhere close to 100% maybe Houston but they also wernt a playoff team.
They won the championship though, and none of the series' were even close. The Spurs could have avoided the Clippers in the first round, all they had to do was beat Pelicans on the last game of the year, and they couldn't pull it off. Yet they would have beaten Golden State? The Clippers were fit, and collapsed vs Houston.
I know Golden State had a lot of luck, and most other teams didn't, but they still dominated the league last year. I expect them to go back-to-back.
In what world was Chris Paul fit?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=du6W_WEbcM0
in the video it says this
"you see he is hurting, he cant even explode off that leg"
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Houston @ $17 to win the title seems way too high. That team is stacked this year. :o
way too low
The west is completely stacked. Going to be a dog fight, much more then last year. If Spurs Clippers are healthy i cant see teams getting through them. Cavs no joke either.
The west is stacked, almost a lottery, but I give Houston a real shot. They were the #2 seed last year with not much Dwight Howard, and now you add Ty Lawson... Stacked. The Warriors are the clear favourites, they dominated the west last year and brought everyone relevant back. But I think Houston are right in there with the next tier of Spurs, Clippers, OKC.
The Warriors are not favourite.
Thunder clippers Spurs were better just injured. unless masd injuries occur. Warriors dont even make conference finals
Did you watch the Warriors last year?
Yep they are good like the 4-5 best team if everyone is fit. As I said all year they arent a playoff team. Issue is every single team besides the pelicans weren't anywhere close to 100% maybe Houston but they also wernt a playoff team.
They won the championship though, and none of the series' were even close. The Spurs could have avoided the Clippers in the first round, all they had to do was beat Pelicans on the last game of the year, and they couldn't pull it off. Yet they would have beaten Golden State? The Clippers were fit, and collapsed vs Houston.
I know Golden State had a lot of luck, and most other teams didn't, but they still dominated the league last year. I expect them to go back-to-back.
In what world was Chris Paul fit?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=du6W_WEbcM0
in the video it says this
"you see he is hurting, he cant even explode off that leg"
He was still good enough though. Can't use that to take away from the Warriors. He was out on the court when they collapsed vs Houston, and when they lost the G7 to Houston. Who in fairness were a pretty good team, but they were beaten pretty convincingly by the Warriors next round. It was Warriors 1st, and daylight 2nd last year - whether there were injuries or not. They could afford to rest their guys because they'd get so far in front in the first 3 quarters. I think Curry had the fewest minutes out of MVPs in recent history.. That wasn't an accident.
They are the only team with no holes in them, so can't see why they shouldn't be the favourites. Unless you're saying Cleveland should be the favourites just because they won't have to beat anyone good to get to the finals - which I can understand.
Spurs deserve to be favourite in the west.
Then warriors clippers thunder
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Spurs deserve to be favourite in the west.
Then warriors clippers thunder
The Spurs might end up being the best team but starting as favourites seems bizarre to me. Yes they got Aldridge, but Splitter was a great fit for that team, and they've lost him plus some of their depth pieces. They're relying on Tony Parker being the Tony Parker he was 2 years ago, which I'm just not sure he can do anymore. Manu Ginobilli is one of my favourite all-time players, but how much does he have left.
My main concern with the Clippers is, 'who defends KD, LeBron, Kawhi etc'.. Paul Pierce is an upgrade over Barnes, but he's not someone who can defend the elite guys anymore. Redick can't do it, CP3 is too short.
Thunder have 2 top 10 players and another elite player in Ibaka. But who else? Waiters is awful, Kanter is alright but playing him with Westbrook and Durant makes no sense because there isn't any shots for him. But you have to play him with Ibaka to cover up his defensive mistakes.
These teams should all be elite, but they have flaws which we just haven't seen from GSW yet.
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Spurs deserve to be favourite in the west.
Then warriors clippers thunder
The Spurs might end up being the best team but starting as favourites seems bizarre to me. Yes they got Aldridge, but Splitter was a great fit for that team, and they've lost him plus some of their depth pieces. They're relying on Tony Parker being the Tony Parker he was 2 years ago, which I'm just not sure he can do anymore. Manu Ginobilli is one of my favourite all-time players, but how much does he have left.
My main concern with the Clippers is, 'who defends KD, LeBron, Kawhi etc'.. Paul Pierce is an upgrade over Barnes, but he's not someone who can defend the elite guys anymore. Redick can't do it, CP3 is too short.
Thunder have 2 top 10 players and another elite player in Ibaka. But who else? Waiters is awful, Kanter is alright but playing him with Westbrook and Durant makes no sense because there isn't any shots for him. But you have to play him with Ibaka to cover up his defensive mistakes.
These teams should all be elite, but they have flaws which we just haven't seen from GSW yet.
just got to wait my time. when the warriors get eliminated, just remember i wont be "shocked" like everyone else.
Clippers Thunder Spurs health I had them higher then the warriors come playoff last year.
Clippers Spurs got stronger.
Thunder just need to get healthy. Got 2 players better then anyone on the Warriors. Ibaka is very good aswell. Waiters and Kanter do not suck.
Warriors do have weaknesses you just need to be healthy to exploit them.
You dont think a 100% irving and love would have made a difference?
they were 2-1 up without them.
nobody on the warriors can guard Lebron unless tripple teamed. Try doing that with Irving and Love on the floor. Lebron on his own almost beat the warriors.
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Spurs deserve to be favourite in the west.
Then warriors clippers thunder
The Spurs might end up being the best team but starting as favourites seems bizarre to me. Yes they got Aldridge, but Splitter was a great fit for that team, and they've lost him plus some of their depth pieces. They're relying on Tony Parker being the Tony Parker he was 2 years ago, which I'm just not sure he can do anymore. Manu Ginobilli is one of my favourite all-time players, but how much does he have left.
My main concern with the Clippers is, 'who defends KD, LeBron, Kawhi etc'.. Paul Pierce is an upgrade over Barnes, but he's not someone who can defend the elite guys anymore. Redick can't do it, CP3 is too short.
Thunder have 2 top 10 players and another elite player in Ibaka. But who else? Waiters is awful, Kanter is alright but playing him with Westbrook and Durant makes no sense because there isn't any shots for him. But you have to play him with Ibaka to cover up his defensive mistakes.
These teams should all be elite, but they have flaws which we just haven't seen from GSW yet.
just got to wait my time. when the warriors get eliminated, just remember i wont be "shocked" like everyone else.
Clippers Thunder Spurs health I had them higher then the warriors come playoff last year.
Clippers Spurs got stronger.
Thunder just need to get healthy. Got 2 players better then anyone on the Warriors. Ibaka is very good aswell. Waiters and Kanter do not suck.
Warriors do have weaknesses you just need to be healthy to exploit them.
You dont think a 100% irving and love would have made a difference?
they were 2-1 up without them.
nobody on the warriors can guard Lebron unless tripple teamed. Try doing that with Irving and Love on the floor. Lebron on his own almost beat the warriors.
I don't think a 100% Irving and Love would have made a difference at all. When Irving and Love went out, Delly and TT came in and so did the elite defense. This is what slowed the Warriors up in the first few games - elite defense, slow the pace, and let LBJ control the game. With Irving and Love in there, they couldn't have executed that - would have just been a shoot out with the Warriors, and that's not something that will work. LeBron was great but you can only do so much and that showed in the last few games.
The Warriors might end up losing, I certainly think it will be a much harder road to the finals than last year. I just think they are a border-line all time great team of the modern era (e.g. 2014 Spurs, 2012 Heat, 2008 Celtics etc) whereas you think they are just a really good team. I guess we could find out this year, I really hope everyone is healthy as the west playoffs will be excellent.
I dont think they are a really good team. I think they are a good team that is elite in the regular season. When it comes to playoffs to me they are an above average playoff team in the west just.
all time great of the modern era is just ridiculous.
you know i really really dont like the 08 celtics but they would just embarass the Warriors.
Irving Love are far far better then guys like delly. Even if what you said was true (it isnt) they would still have gave lebron a rest. He ran out of gas, he cant beat a whole team even if it is the celtics.
look at Spurs series v warriors. Lebron had much more help in Miami in the finals and got destroyed. The cavs were one shot away from going 3-0 and from there they close.
yes the spurs are two years older from that team. But Kawahi is 2 years older and Aldridge a big ad.
I dont see warriors having anyone to stop Aldridge or Kawahi. Whearas Kawahi will do a great job of slowing down Klay or Steph.
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I dont think they are a really good team. I think they are a good team that is elite in the regular season. When it comes to playoffs to me they are an above average playoff team in the west just.
all time great of the modern era is just ridiculous.
you know i really really dont like the 08 celtics but they would just embarass the Warriors.
Irving Love are far far better then guys like delly. Even if what you said was true (it isnt) they would still have gave lebron a rest. He ran out of gas, he cant beat a whole team even if it is the celtics.
look at Spurs series v warriors. Lebron had much more help in Miami in the finals and got destroyed. The cavs were one shot away from going 3-0 and from there they close.
yes the spurs are two years older from that team. But Kawahi is 2 years older and Aldridge a big ad.
I dont see warriors having anyone to stop Aldridge or Kawahi. Whearas Kawahi will do a great job of slowing down Klay or Steph.
Remember they swept Anthony Davis, then knocked off Memphis, Houston and LeBron with none of the series' going to 7 games. They were still really good in the playoffs.
I agree that the 08 Celtics would beat the Warriors, and so would the 14 Spurs for that matter. But they're in the conversation.
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I dont think they are a really good team. I think they are a good team that is elite in the regular season. When it comes to playoffs to me they are an above average playoff team in the west just.
all time great of the modern era is just ridiculous.
you know i really really dont like the 08 celtics but they would just embarass the Warriors.
Irving Love are far far better then guys like delly. Even if what you said was true (it isnt) they would still have gave lebron a rest. He ran out of gas, he cant beat a whole team even if it is the celtics.
look at Spurs series v warriors. Lebron had much more help in Miami in the finals and got destroyed. The cavs were one shot away from going 3-0 and from there they close.
yes the spurs are two years older from that team. But Kawahi is 2 years older and Aldridge a big ad.
I dont see warriors having anyone to stop Aldridge or Kawahi. Whearas Kawahi will do a great job of slowing down Klay or Steph.
Remember they swept Anthony Davis, then knocked off Memphis, Houston and LeBron with none of the series' going to 7 games. They were still really good in the playoffs.
I agree that the 08 Celtics would beat the Warriors, and so would the 14 Spurs for that matter. But they're in the conversation.
they beat Anthony Davis in his first ever playoff games with little to no help. Thats nothing.
they edged out the grizzlies in a 6 game series with Colney injured
the beat Houston who were fully healthy but dont rate them despite them knocking out Clippers with a crippled Paul (they chocked anyway)
they arent in that conversation. I put them in the conversation of the worst championship team of the last 10 years.
it would be Warriors 15 v Mavs 11in my books.
since 2000 the Lakers Spurs Celtics Pistons I have better even Miami 06 with Wade Shaq
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I dont think they are a really good team. I think they are a good team that is elite in the regular season. When it comes to playoffs to me they are an above average playoff team in the west just.
all time great of the modern era is just ridiculous.
you know i really really dont like the 08 celtics but they would just embarass the Warriors.
Irving Love are far far better then guys like delly. Even if what you said was true (it isnt) they would still have gave lebron a rest. He ran out of gas, he cant beat a whole team even if it is the celtics.
look at Spurs series v warriors. Lebron had much more help in Miami in the finals and got destroyed. The cavs were one shot away from going 3-0 and from there they close.
yes the spurs are two years older from that team. But Kawahi is 2 years older and Aldridge a big ad.
I dont see warriors having anyone to stop Aldridge or Kawahi. Whearas Kawahi will do a great job of slowing down Klay or Steph.
Remember they swept Anthony Davis, then knocked off Memphis, Houston and LeBron with none of the series' going to 7 games. They were still really good in the playoffs.
I agree that the 08 Celtics would beat the Warriors, and so would the 14 Spurs for that matter. But they're in the conversation.
they beat Anthony Davis in his first ever playoff games with little to no help. Thats nothing.
they edged out the grizzlies in a 6 game series with Colney injured
the beat Houston who were fully healthy but dont rate them despite them knocking out Clippers with a crippled Paul (they chocked anyway)
they arent in that conversation. I put them in the conversation of the worst championship team of the last 10 years.
it would be Warriors 15 v Mavs 11in my books.
since 2000 the Lakers Spurs Celtics Pistons I have better even Miami 06 with Wade Shaq
What about who the Cavs beat to get to the finals.. Boston, Chicago and Atlanta. Pretty pathetic. Golden State were far and away better than any team in the east, and won pretty easily vs the west teams - even if the road was weaker than it could have been. But you can blame the Spurs losing the last game of the year, leading to them playing the Clipps in the first round, for that. Not the Warriors fault.
The Warriors would wipe the floor with the 11 Mavs. They're a peg below the 14 Spurs for me but around the mark with the Miami teams.
haha w0w ;D
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What about who the Cavs beat to get to the finals.. Boston, Chicago and Atlanta. Pretty pathetic. Golden State were far and away better than any team in the east, and won pretty easily vs the west teams - even if the road was weaker than it could have been. But you can blame the Spurs losing the last game of the year, leading to them playing the Clipps in the first round, for that. Not the Warriors fault.
The Warriors would wipe the floor with the 11 Mavs. They're a peg below the 14 Spurs for me but around the mark with the Miami teams.
they wernt better then the Cavs.
almost went 3-0
down to a team with Irving on 1 leg for 1 game then missing the rest of the series and a all star already on the bench.
Lebron on his own almost beat the Warriors so a health bosh and a alright wade would have won in 6 at the worst.
I give you they would probably beat the 11 Mavs, thats all ill give you
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What about who the Cavs beat to get to the finals.. Boston, Chicago and Atlanta. Pretty pathetic. Golden State were far and away better than any team in the east, and won pretty easily vs the west teams - even if the road was weaker than it could have been. But you can blame the Spurs losing the last game of the year, leading to them playing the Clipps in the first round, for that. Not the Warriors fault.
The Warriors would wipe the floor with the 11 Mavs. They're a peg below the 14 Spurs for me but around the mark with the Miami teams.
they wernt better then the Cavs.
almost went 3-0
down to a team with Irving on 1 leg for 1 game then missing the rest of the series and a all star already on the bench.
Lebron on his own almost beat the Warriors so a health bosh and a alright wade would have won in 6 at the worst.
I give you they would probably beat the 11 Mavs, thats all ill give you
How weren't they better than the Cavs? They beat them easily in the finals.. Yes they were down 2-1, but the first 3 games were close. And then Golden State won 3 straight games to seal the series, with the closest game being game 6 where it was a blowout but Cleveland came back to make it look closer than it really was.
It was the same case as the Memphis series, once Golden State figured it out - it was all over. When they benched Bogut for Igoudala in game 4 (down 2-1 heading back to Cleveland) the Cavs just couldn't go with them and it was series over.
LeBron was great for the first few games, but he didn't even get close to beating the Warriors. That series was all over after game 4 - but credit to the Cavs for making it closer than it should have been.
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What about who the Cavs beat to get to the finals.. Boston, Chicago and Atlanta. Pretty pathetic. Golden State were far and away better than any team in the east, and won pretty easily vs the west teams - even if the road was weaker than it could have been. But you can blame the Spurs losing the last game of the year, leading to them playing the Clipps in the first round, for that. Not the Warriors fault.
The Warriors would wipe the floor with the 11 Mavs. They're a peg below the 14 Spurs for me but around the mark with the Miami teams.
they wernt better then the Cavs.
almost went 3-0
down to a team with Irving on 1 leg for 1 game then missing the rest of the series and a all star already on the bench.
Lebron on his own almost beat the Warriors so a health bosh and a alright wade would have won in 6 at the worst.
I give you they would probably beat the 11 Mavs, thats all ill give you
How weren't they better than the Cavs? They beat them easily in the finals.. Yes they were down 2-1, but the first 3 games were close. And then Golden State won 3 straight games to seal the series, with the closest game being game 6 where it was a blowout but Cleveland came back to make it look closer than it really was.
It was the same case as the Memphis series, once Golden State figured it out - it was all over. When they benched Bogut for Igoudala in game 4 (down 2-1 heading back to Cleveland) the Cavs just couldn't go with them and it was series over.
LeBron was great for the first few games, but he didn't even get close to beating the Warriors. That series was all over after game 4 - but credit to the Cavs for making it closer than it should have been.
They were better then the injured Cavs with their 2nd and 3rd best players out.
They wernt better then the cavs with just one of them available let alone two.
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What about who the Cavs beat to get to the finals.. Boston, Chicago and Atlanta. Pretty pathetic. Golden State were far and away better than any team in the east, and won pretty easily vs the west teams - even if the road was weaker than it could have been. But you can blame the Spurs losing the last game of the year, leading to them playing the Clipps in the first round, for that. Not the Warriors fault.
The Warriors would wipe the floor with the 11 Mavs. They're a peg below the 14 Spurs for me but around the mark with the Miami teams.
they wernt better then the Cavs.
almost went 3-0
down to a team with Irving on 1 leg for 1 game then missing the rest of the series and a all star already on the bench.
Lebron on his own almost beat the Warriors so a health bosh and a alright wade would have won in 6 at the worst.
I give you they would probably beat the 11 Mavs, thats all ill give you
How weren't they better than the Cavs? They beat them easily in the finals.. Yes they were down 2-1, but the first 3 games were close. And then Golden State won 3 straight games to seal the series, with the closest game being game 6 where it was a blowout but Cleveland came back to make it look closer than it really was.
It was the same case as the Memphis series, once Golden State figured it out - it was all over. When they benched Bogut for Igoudala in game 4 (down 2-1 heading back to Cleveland) the Cavs just couldn't go with them and it was series over.
LeBron was great for the first few games, but he didn't even get close to beating the Warriors. That series was all over after game 4 - but credit to the Cavs for making it closer than it should have been.
They were better then the injured Cavs with their 2nd and 3rd best players out.
They wernt better then the cavs with just one of them available let alone two.
I've already explained why the Cavs injuries wouldn't have really mattered. Maybe having Irving would have helped to give some helped offensively to LeBron, but he'd get killed defensively as well. Love would have been irrelevant in that series, even though he's a lot better than TT, it just wasn't a good matchup. TT was essential because they could switch on Steph and he'd hold his own, with Love they couldn't do that. Injuries aren't why the Warriors beat the Cavs, Cleveland just weren't that great last year.
I honestly think they might be even better this year. Am expecting them to go back to back, with OKC as their biggest threat. Just because they don't really have a matchup for KD, or the athleticism to go with the other guys.
its a no brainer to most got a laugh out of the fact it became a debate :D
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its a no brainer to most got a laugh out of the fact it became a debate :D
Please say you're on my side :P
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its a no brainer to most got a laugh out of the fact it became a debate :D
Please say you're on my side :P
I suspect he is.
however i rate Riotchess knowledge he may be on the correct side.
either way the warriors will prove me right come playoffs
The Tristan Thompson hold-out is over. Re-signs on a 5-year 82 million dollar deal.
Good luck Cleveland.
Quote from: Jayman on October 22, 2015, 01:12:28 PM
The Tristan Thompson hold-out is over. Re-signs on a 5-year 82 million dollar deal.
Good luck Cleveland.
extremely good news. I reckon thats what he is worth. End of the day he isnt a guy to carry your team, just someone you really want on your roster. 16.4 mil for that seems pretty fair.
if they can all get healthy i reckon they stand a pretty good shot against whoever comes out of the west after they fight it out,
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The Tristan Thompson hold-out is over. Re-signs on a 5-year 82 million dollar deal.
Good luck Cleveland.
Too much. Monroe is a better player
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The Tristan Thompson hold-out is over. Re-signs on a 5-year 82 million dollar deal.
Good luck Cleveland.
Too much. Monroe is a better player
I just don't think TT does that many things well. Yes he's excellent at switching out and guarding guys on the perimeter but apart from that he's just eh.
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The Tristan Thompson hold-out is over. Re-signs on a 5-year 82 million dollar deal.
Good luck Cleveland.
Too much. Monroe is a better player
I just don't think TT does that many things well. Yes he's excellent at switching out and guarding guys on the perimeter but apart from that he's just eh.
And he's a superb offensive rebounder, but got paid the same as Draymond. That's a farce
He got paid more than Reggie Jackson who I forgot is on a 5 year 80 million deal!!! Holy shower
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The Tristan Thompson hold-out is over. Re-signs on a 5-year 82 million dollar deal.
Good luck Cleveland.
Too much. Monroe is a better player
I just don't think TT does that many things well. Yes he's excellent at switching out and guarding guys on the perimeter but apart from that he's just eh.
agreed he is really really good at what he does but he hasnt got an all round game. He is working on it and he is only young and a guy like Lebron probably having a big influence on him.
8 RPG from 26.8 minutes aint bad though.
Mozgov TT Love with two of those guys on the floor at a time is solid.
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Quote from: Jayman on October 22, 2015, 01:12:28 PM
The Tristan Thompson hold-out is over. Re-signs on a 5-year 82 million dollar deal.
Good luck Cleveland.
Too much. Monroe is a better player
I just don't think TT does that many things well. Yes he's excellent at switching out and guarding guys on the perimeter but apart from that he's just eh.
And he's a superb offensive rebounder, but got paid the same as Draymond. That's a farce
He got paid more than Reggie Jackson who I forgot is on a 5 year 80 million deal!!! Holy shower
yargh Reggie and Draymond look like bargains now
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Quote from: Jayman on October 22, 2015, 01:12:28 PM
The Tristan Thompson hold-out is over. Re-signs on a 5-year 82 million dollar deal.
Good luck Cleveland.
Too much. Monroe is a better player
I just don't think TT does that many things well. Yes he's excellent at switching out and guarding guys on the perimeter but apart from that he's just eh.
And he's a superb offensive rebounder, but got paid the same as Draymond. That's a farce
He got paid more than Reggie Jackson who I forgot is on a 5 year 80 million deal!!! Holy shower
yargh Reggie and Draymond look like bargains now
I think Reggie got a lot, I'm not particularly high on him. But yeah Draymond getting the same as TT is ridiculous. Draymond is in a completely different tier.
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Quote from: Jayman on October 22, 2015, 01:12:28 PM
The Tristan Thompson hold-out is over. Re-signs on a 5-year 82 million dollar deal.
Good luck Cleveland.
Too much. Monroe is a better player
I just don't think TT does that many things well. Yes he's excellent at switching out and guarding guys on the perimeter but apart from that he's just eh.
And he's a superb offensive rebounder, but got paid the same as Draymond. That's a farce
He got paid more than Reggie Jackson who I forgot is on a 5 year 80 million deal!!! Holy shower
yargh Reggie and Draymond look like bargains now
I think Reggie got a lot, I'm not particularly high on him. But yeah Draymond getting the same as TT is ridiculous. Draymond is in a completely different tier.
u couldnt give me two TT's for one Draymond ;D
TT is a solid player but not worth $82mil of 5 years - that makes him the 6th highest paid PF in the league
BAHAHAHA
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TT is a solid player but not worth $82mil of 5 years - that makes him the 6th highest paid PF in the league
BAHAHAHA
Is Kevin Love worth 28 Mil more?
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Quote from: valkorum on October 22, 2015, 04:08:38 PM
TT is a solid player but not worth $82mil of 5 years - that makes him the 6th highest paid PF in the league
BAHAHAHA
Is Kevin Love worth 28 Mil more?
Yes, probably more than that.
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Quote from: valkorum on October 22, 2015, 04:08:38 PM
TT is a solid player but not worth $82mil of 5 years - that makes him the 6th highest paid PF in the league
BAHAHAHA
Is Kevin Love worth 28 Mil more?
Thats only $5.6m per year more - HELL YEH Kevin Love is worth $10mil a season more than TT
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TT is a solid player but not worth $82mil of 5 years - that makes him the 6th highest paid PF in the league
BAHAHAHA
Is Kevin Love worth 28 Mil more?
Thats only $5.6m per year more - HELL YEH Kevin Love is worth $10mil a season more than TT
Lolz has a man crush on TT :D
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Quote from: valkorum on October 22, 2015, 04:08:38 PM
TT is a solid player but not worth $82mil of 5 years - that makes him the 6th highest paid PF in the league
BAHAHAHA
Is Kevin Love worth 28 Mil more?
Thats only $5.6m per year more - HELL YEH Kevin Love is worth $10mil a season more than TT
Agree with this completely. There's a reason that TT didn't get any offers from other teams ;)
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TT is a solid player but not worth $82mil of 5 years - that makes him the 6th highest paid PF in the league
BAHAHAHA
Is Kevin Love worth 28 Mil more?
Thats only $5.6m per year more - HELL YEH Kevin Love is worth $10mil a season more than TT
Agree with this completely. There's a reason that TT didn't get any offers from other teams ;)
people were saying last year that TT was better in the lineup then love (when they were saying why Lebron shouldnt be excused for not winning). Love also was sat out for 4th quarters.
I do like love but TT is pretty dam good too.
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Quote from: valkorum on October 22, 2015, 04:08:38 PM
TT is a solid player but not worth $82mil of 5 years - that makes him the 6th highest paid PF in the league
BAHAHAHA
Is Kevin Love worth 28 Mil more?
Thats only $5.6m per year more - HELL YEH Kevin Love is worth $10mil a season more than TT
Agree with this completely. There's a reason that TT didn't get any offers from other teams ;)
people were saying last year that TT was better in the lineup then love (when they were saying why Lebron shouldnt be excused for not winning). Love also was sat out for 4th quarters.
I do like love but TT is pretty dam good too.
TT was a better matchup for that particular series vs Golden State. Over the course of a season, Love is a much better fit with the Cavs - just look at their on/off numbers. The Cavs were +7.8 points per 100 possessions better with Love on the floor, and only +2.8 when Thompson was on the court.
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Quote from: valkorum on October 22, 2015, 04:08:38 PM
TT is a solid player but not worth $82mil of 5 years - that makes him the 6th highest paid PF in the league
BAHAHAHA
Is Kevin Love worth 28 Mil more?
Thats only $5.6m per year more - HELL YEH Kevin Love is worth $10mil a season more than TT
Agree with this completely. There's a reason that TT didn't get any offers from other teams ;)
people were saying last year that TT was better in the lineup then love (when they were saying why Lebron shouldnt be excused for not winning). Love also was sat out for 4th quarters.
I do like love but TT is pretty dam good too.
TT was a better matchup for that particular series vs Golden State. Over the course of a season, Love is a much better fit with the Cavs - just look at their on/off numbers. The Cavs were +7.8 points per 100 possessions better with Love on the floor, and only +2.8 when Thompson was on the court.
I dont disagree love is good but that an unfair comparison. TT was coming off the bench so often was playing with the other Cav bench players whereas Love started and had more time with Iriving etc.
also Cavs would get off to a big lead then put TT on as they coasted.
Whats concerning to me with Love is blatt felt the need to bench him in the 4th. He is a defensive liability thats the issue. With Irving and Love thats 2/5 team with no defense, makes it tough.
If im paying a guy max i would rather a pure defender. Love is good but if you could get another big man who defends and pay him max that would be even better. Then you wouldnt need TT aswell.
something has to be said about TT, you gotta pay for his durability. His per game salary reduces dramatically if you take that into account.
Most importantly it makes Lebron Happy and making Lebron Happy is worth every cent.
Prediction time!
MVP: Stephen Curry
DPOY: Rudy Gobert
Coach of the year: Steve Kerr
6th man: Isaiah Thomas
Rookie: Emmanuel Mudiay
Most improved: Bradley Beal
Eastern conference finals: Cleveland Cavaliers vs Chicago Bulls
Western conference finals: Golden State Warriors vs Oklahoma City Thunder
NBA Finals: Oklahoma City Thunder vs Cleveland Cavaliers
Champions: Oklahoma City Thunder
Eastern conference:
1. Chicago Bulls
2. Atlanta Hawks
3. Cleveland Cavaliers
4. Miami Heat
5. Boston Celtics
6. Washington Wizards
7. Toronto Raptors
8. Milwaukee Bucks
Western conference:
1. Golden State Warriors
2. Houston Rockets
3. Oklahoma City Thunder
4. Los Angeles Clippers
5. San Antonio Spurs
6. Memphis Grizzlies
7. Phoenix Suns
8. New Orleans Pelicans
What do you guys reckon? We're just a few days away from opening night and I think it's going to be another very exciting season western conference this year!
MVP: Harden
Celtics for the 2 seed :D
Quote from: plumdog millionaire on October 23, 2015, 03:27:54 PM
MVP: Harden
Celtics for the 2 seed :D
Boom! I thought I was scarily high on the Celtics this year, so good to see someone else is too. Think we have a crazy amount of depth which is a big factor in the regular season, and Brad Stevens is an absolute wizard.
I think if everything breaks right, we can get close to 50 wins :-X
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Quote from: plumdog millionaire on October 23, 2015, 03:27:54 PM
MVP: Harden
Celtics for the 2 seed :D
Boom! I thought I was scarily high on the Celtics this year, so good to see someone else is too. Think we have a crazy amount of depth which is a big factor in the regular season, and Brad Stevens is an absolute wizard.
I think if everything breaks right, we can get close to 50 wins :-X
I was only being mildly facetious :P
They have so much depth that when I played them in the GM mode on 2K16 I had to trade out a bunch of dudes just to keep them happy. Stevens is going to go down as a legend of this era
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MVP: Harden
Celtics for the 2 seed :D
Boom! I thought I was scarily high on the Celtics this year, so good to see someone else is too. Think we have a crazy amount of depth which is a big factor in the regular season, and Brad Stevens is an absolute wizard.
I think if everything breaks right, we can get close to 50 wins :-X
I was only being mildly facetious :P
They have so much depth that when I played them in the GM mode on 2K16 I had to trade out a bunch of dudes just to keep them happy. Stevens is going to go down as a legend of this era
no way
Cavs Bulls Heat the big 3.
Wizards will be very good with Wall and I reckon the Bucks can do some damage and should go top 4
Monroe Antetokomboa Parker Middleton MCW is very very strong.
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MVP: Harden
Celtics for the 2 seed :D
Boom! I thought I was scarily high on the Celtics this year, so good to see someone else is too. Think we have a crazy amount of depth which is a big factor in the regular season, and Brad Stevens is an absolute wizard.
I think if everything breaks right, we can get close to 50 wins :-X
I was only being mildly facetious :P
They have so much depth that when I played them in the GM mode on 2K16 I had to trade out a bunch of dudes just to keep them happy. Stevens is going to go down as a legend of this era
no way
Cavs Bulls Heat the big 3.
Wizards will be very good with Wall and I reckon the Bucks can do some damage and should go top 4
Monroe Antetokomboa Parker Middleton MCW is very very strong.
The Bucks record after they got MCW was pretty bad if I remember correctly. Wouldn't be surprised if he's terrible this year. I think Vasquez is their best PG.
But yeah, a lot of talent with Middleton, Giannis, Parker and Monroe.
isnt isaiah starting for the celtics
Darren Collison for 6th man of the year.
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isnt isaiah starting for the celtics
I don't think he will. Stevens likes rolling with Smart + Bradley and letting Isaiah be a high usage scoring dude off the bench.
He'll finish games though with the Isaiah/Smart/Crowder/Sullinger/Amir lineup probably being our best.
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isnt isaiah starting for the celtics
I don't think he will. Stevens likes rolling with Smart + Bradley and letting Isaiah be a high usage scoring dude off the bench.
He'll finish games though with the Isaiah/Smart/Crowder/Sullinger/Amir lineup probably being our best.
Swap Sully for Lee
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isnt isaiah starting for the celtics
I don't think he will. Stevens likes rolling with Smart + Bradley and letting Isaiah be a high usage scoring dude off the bench.
He'll finish games though with the Isaiah/Smart/Crowder/Sullinger/Amir lineup probably being our best.
Swap Sully for Lee
You reckon Lee has much left? :-X
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isnt isaiah starting for the celtics
I don't think he will. Stevens likes rolling with Smart + Bradley and letting Isaiah be a high usage scoring dude off the bench.
He'll finish games though with the Isaiah/Smart/Crowder/Sullinger/Amir lineup probably being our best.
Swap Sully for Lee
You reckon Lee has much left? :-X
definitely gonna be 6th man of the year then
Sad news this morning with Coach and President of the T-Wolves, Flip Saunders passing away.
Quote from: Jayman on October 26, 2015, 06:18:07 AM
Sad news this morning with Coach and President of the T-Wolves, Flip Saunders passing away.
R.I.P Flip
Photo of KG this morning after hearing the news.
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CSM6k_fUYAEc50s.jpg)
KG being there for the franchise is even more important now
Seeing a lot of people pick AD for MVP... Do people think New Orleans are reaistcally going to win enough games for that to happen? :-X
Quote from: Jayman on October 26, 2015, 06:02:16 PM
Seeing a lot of people pick AD for MVP... Do people think New Orleans are reaistcally going to win enough games for that to happen? :-X
A lot of the articles are predicting him to be the first MVP from a losing side. The guy's numbers are astronomical and he hasn't reached his ceiling yet. It'll be tough, but Steph and Lebron look like they are both going to play less minutes during the season, with Lebron even saying he will be rested. Durant coming off an injury I think is the biggest threat, but this could go either way as the issues could pop their head back, but if they don't then he's going to play with a chip on his shoulder which will be brutal for his opposition! If Davis can play over 70 games then I think he takes the MVP. Harden will be good too.
Hey lads, dont follow the NBA much but I'm taking advantage of a bet promotion on Wednesday sooo... Anyone know where games are televised? Can't seem to find it on foxtel.
Cheers!
Quote from: elephants on October 26, 2015, 06:15:34 PM
Hey lads, dont follow the NBA much but I'm taking advantage of a bet promotion on Wednesday sooo... Anyone know where games are televised? Can't seem to find it on foxtel.
Cheers!
Don't think that days games are televised on Foxtel, best bet is to use a betting website that show the games live for free...Sportsbet and a few others do this.
Quote from: Jayman on October 26, 2015, 06:02:16 PM
Seeing a lot of people pick AD for MVP... Do people think New Orleans are reaistcally going to win enough games for that to happen? :-X
https://twitter.com/hoopshype/status/655791079745306624
Just sayin
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Quote from: elephants on October 26, 2015, 06:15:34 PM
Hey lads, dont follow the NBA much but I'm taking advantage of a bet promotion on Wednesday sooo... Anyone know where games are televised? Can't seem to find it on foxtel.
Cheers!
Don't think that days games are televised on Foxtel, best bet is to use a betting website that show the games live for free...Sportsbet and a few others do this.
Ah true thanks man! Just downloaded the ESPN app but I don't know hoe up to date the scores will be, might play it safe and find a link from a betting site!
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Quote from: elephants on October 26, 2015, 06:15:34 PM
Hey lads, dont follow the NBA much but I'm taking advantage of a bet promotion on Wednesday sooo... Anyone know where games are televised? Can't seem to find it on foxtel.
Cheers!
Don't think that days games are televised on Foxtel, best bet is to use a betting website that show the games live for free...Sportsbet and a few others do this.
Ah true thanks man! Just downloaded the ESPN app but I don't know hoe up to date the scores will be, might play it safe and find a link from a betting site!
I have put money in bet 365 just for their live streaming totally worth it. Pretty sure they have some NBA more than you can get normally through Foxtel. But just for scores ESPN is definitely the best for NBA there game cast is very quick (or it was last year) to update the scores
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Quote from: elephants on October 26, 2015, 06:15:34 PM
Hey lads, dont follow the NBA much but I'm taking advantage of a bet promotion on Wednesday sooo... Anyone know where games are televised? Can't seem to find it on foxtel.
Cheers!
Don't think that days games are televised on Foxtel, best bet is to use a betting website that show the games live for free...Sportsbet and a few others do this.
Ah true thanks man! Just downloaded the ESPN app but I don't know hoe up to date the scores will be, might play it safe and find a link from a betting site!
I have put money in bet 365 just for their live streaming totally worth it. Pretty sure they have some NBA more than you can get normally through Foxtel. But just for scores ESPN is definitely the best for NBA there game cast is very quick (or it was last year) to update the scores
Didn't think you actually needed money in the account to watch it? How big can you get the screen, I have an account but I've only tried using Sportsbet. ESPN app is really good for score updates and box scores. If you want a bit of fantasy betting fun, get onto Moneyball too. ;)
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Quote from: elephants on October 26, 2015, 06:15:34 PM
Hey lads, dont follow the NBA much but I'm taking advantage of a bet promotion on Wednesday sooo... Anyone know where games are televised? Can't seem to find it on foxtel.
Cheers!
Don't think that days games are televised on Foxtel, best bet is to use a betting website that show the games live for free...Sportsbet and a few others do this.
Ah true thanks man! Just downloaded the ESPN app but I don't know hoe up to date the scores will be, might play it safe and find a link from a betting site!
I have put money in bet 365 just for their live streaming totally worth it. Pretty sure they have some NBA more than you can get normally through Foxtel. But just for scores ESPN is definitely the best for NBA there game cast is very quick (or it was last year) to update the scores
I'm grabbing NBA TV for $11 a month. You get 6 games a week, which is more than foxtel too.
William Hill also streaming the game apparently.
And yep just downloaded and signed into the ESPN app, looks pretty rad. I assume it'll be pretty up to date!
how much coin do you have to put into a bet365/sportsbet to access the live streaming, does anyone know?
I am not sure how much you need to deposit / have in the account. I already had a BET365 account (left over from a closed down poker account years ago).
Watching the CHI V CLE game live now on my phone (via the app).
Only problem with this is that all the games will be during work hours and I have to use mobile data for this (our company wifi networks block betting sites/apps)
I also assume that you cant watch replays - meaning you can probably only watch games live.
Quote from: Gandalf123 on October 28, 2015, 11:07:26 AM
how much coin do you have to put into a bet365/sportsbet to access the live streaming, does anyone know?
You can get a free trial of League Pass up until November 4 if you're keen on watching the next few day's of games :)
Bet 365 is a $10 deposit if you have to deposit to get the account. I am on my phone and it is a good size for phone, I'm not sure about the laptop size
cheers guys
I'm unsure about the Bulls starting Pau and Mirotic together. Seems like all-offense, no-defense.. Would prefer to see Mirotic and Noah starting together and then run the offense through Pau off the bench.
Quote from: Jayman on October 28, 2015, 01:47:54 PM
I'm unsure about the Bulls starting Pau and Mirotic together. Seems like all-offense, no-defense.. Would prefer to see Mirotic and Noah starting together and then run the offense through Pau off the bench.
And then Pau goes on and plays NO offense and ALL defense...sucks for my moneyball team. :(
AD really struggling so far tonight ???
If you forgot why Steph was the MVP, this game is a good reminder.
hold up the season has started?
I thought this was all preseason.
Quote from: Holz on October 28, 2015, 04:44:29 PM
hold up the season has started?
I thought this was all preseason.
Today is day 1 of regular season. AD not having a good start to the season, but he'll bounce back with some monster games don't worry about that!
The Brad Stevens out of timeout plays make me happy. Just got Smart a wide-open three.
Think I'm probably the only person watching the Boston vs Philly game instead of Spurs and OKC :P
Spurs Thunder is epic
Quote from: Jayman on October 29, 2015, 12:39:05 PM
The Brad Stevens out of timeout plays make me happy. Just got Smart a wide-open three.
Think I'm probably the only person watching the Boston vs Philly game instead of Spurs and OKC :P
Nah I am too :)
Quote from: RiOtChEsS on October 29, 2015, 02:20:17 PM
Spurs Thunder is epic
Showcase for what the top of the west is going to look like this season 8)
Quote from: Jayman on October 29, 2015, 02:35:57 PM
Quote from: RiOtChEsS on October 29, 2015, 02:20:17 PM
Spurs Thunder is epic
Showcase for what the top of the west is going to look like this season 8)
got to say I think we just saw the champions play today. not sure if its spurs or thunder.
really liking thunder this year.
also Lebron no chance of MVP, cavs bench playing lots of minutes. If you have a uninjured rested cavs team they could do massive damage.
ahh Kobe
2-7 already.
taken 27% of his teams shots for 13% of their points to be -4 with him on the field.
Portland offense is cooking! The banged up Pelicans just can't go with them.
I hope you guys listened to me when I said CJ McCollum is the breakout candidate you want in fantasy ;) 28 points in a half.
Phoenix determined on wrecking my multi :P
Quote from: Jayman on October 29, 2015, 03:20:35 PM
Portland offense is cooking! The banged up Pelicans just can't go with them.
I hope you guys listened to me when I said CJ McCollum is the breakout candidate you want in fantasy ;) 28 points in a half.
niccccccccccccce, added him in about 10 leagues prior to his bump in the rankings 8)
Knicks beat Bucks :o
Cannot be overstated how big the Truth signing was for the Clippers. Already having an impact and hitting the big shots.
Kings were down 15, now it's tied. Pretty fun game.
Quote from: Jayman on October 29, 2015, 03:20:35 PM
Portland offense is cooking! The banged up Pelicans just can't go with them.
I hope you guys listened to me when I said CJ McCollum is the breakout candidate you want in fantasy ;) 28 points in a half.
He's been on my radar and I picked him up in my league around round 8 of the draft. Edit: Only 9pts in the second half though, i'll take it!
Quote from: Jayman on October 29, 2015, 04:14:29 PM
Cannot be overstated how big the Truth signing was for the Clippers. Already having an impact and hitting the big shots.
Kings were down 15, now it's tied. Pretty fun game.
We were in it till about 45 seconds to go - a costly turnover and they scored to go 4 points up (104 - 100). Had to foul a lot from there and they hit their free throws.
18 turnovers were costly.
Double/Double from Blake(pts/reb), CP3(pts/ast) and Cousins(pts/reb)
Tom Ziller on twitter
Kobe took 13 threes. DeMarcus Cousins took five
And Boogie made more
Ricky Rubio went off for 28 points, 14 assists tonight
I've resisted so far, and I swear I won't post too often at all in here with NBA bets but...
Quote from: elephants on October 29, 2015, 11:34:45 PM
Dallas beat the Suns today pretty easy and have the Clippers tomorrow. Anyone know why they're $6 outsiders? I don't mind their line of -10.5 :o
Cheers guys!
Quote from: elephants on October 29, 2015, 11:44:44 PM
I've resisted so far, and I swear I won't post too often at all in here with NBA bets but...
Quote from: elephants on October 29, 2015, 11:34:45 PM
Dallas beat the Suns today pretty easy and have the Clippers tomorrow. Anyone know why they're $6 outsiders? I don't mind their line of -10.5 :o
Cheers guys!
It's in Los Angeles, which is usually worth a few points - and, the Clippers are just a lot better than the Mavericks. Granted, I didn't expect them to beat Phoenix either so what do I know :P
If I were having to bet, I'd go Atlanta -3.5 at the Knicks.
Quote from: Jayman on October 29, 2015, 11:49:38 PM
Quote from: elephants on October 29, 2015, 11:44:44 PM
I've resisted so far, and I swear I won't post too often at all in here with NBA bets but...
Quote from: elephants on October 29, 2015, 11:34:45 PM
Dallas beat the Suns today pretty easy and have the Clippers tomorrow. Anyone know why they're $6 outsiders? I don't mind their line of -10.5 :o
Cheers guys!
It's in Los Angeles, which is usually worth a few points - and, the Clippers are just a lot better than the Mavericks. Granted, I didn't expect them to beat Phoenix either so what do I know :P
If I were having to bet, I'd go Atlanta -3.5 at the Knicks.
Haha fair call, I know nothing about basketball other than the rules and a few players so I'm usually going in blind :P $6 does seem like crazy long odds and I guess they must have played well today!
Nice man I'll suss that, the Knicks won too hey and Atlanta lost but one game really isn't enough to determine form/ability haha
Quote from: elephants on October 29, 2015, 11:54:39 PM
Quote from: Jayman on October 29, 2015, 11:49:38 PM
Quote from: elephants on October 29, 2015, 11:44:44 PM
I've resisted so far, and I swear I won't post too often at all in here with NBA bets but...
Quote from: elephants on October 29, 2015, 11:34:45 PM
Dallas beat the Suns today pretty easy and have the Clippers tomorrow. Anyone know why they're $6 outsiders? I don't mind their line of -10.5 :o
Cheers guys!
It's in Los Angeles, which is usually worth a few points - and, the Clippers are just a lot better than the Mavericks. Granted, I didn't expect them to beat Phoenix either so what do I know :P
If I were having to bet, I'd go Atlanta -3.5 at the Knicks.
Haha fair call, I know nothing about basketball other than the rules and a few players so I'm usually going in blind :P $6 does seem like crazy long odds and I guess they must have played well today!
Nice man I'll suss that, the Knicks won too hey and Atlanta lost but one game really isn't enough to determine form/ability haha
You're right man, $6 is probably slightly too high considering Dallas is a decent team and played well in the opener, but back to back road games in 2 nights is tough - that's probably factored into the odds.
Yeah the Knicks got up but their 17 wins compared to Atlanta's 60 last year shows there is a fair difference between the sides ;) I think the bookies are overreacting a bit to each team's opening game. Atlanta will be fine, I'd expect them to bounce back after a day's break :)
Quote from: Jayman on October 30, 2015, 12:05:52 AM
Quote from: elephants on October 29, 2015, 11:54:39 PM
Quote from: Jayman on October 29, 2015, 11:49:38 PM
Quote from: elephants on October 29, 2015, 11:44:44 PM
I've resisted so far, and I swear I won't post too often at all in here with NBA bets but...
Quote from: elephants on October 29, 2015, 11:34:45 PM
Dallas beat the Suns today pretty easy and have the Clippers tomorrow. Anyone know why they're $6 outsiders? I don't mind their line of -10.5 :o
Cheers guys!
It's in Los Angeles, which is usually worth a few points - and, the Clippers are just a lot better than the Mavericks. Granted, I didn't expect them to beat Phoenix either so what do I know :P
If I were having to bet, I'd go Atlanta -3.5 at the Knicks.
Haha fair call, I know nothing about basketball other than the rules and a few players so I'm usually going in blind :P $6 does seem like crazy long odds and I guess they must have played well today!
Nice man I'll suss that, the Knicks won too hey and Atlanta lost but one game really isn't enough to determine form/ability haha
You're right man, $6 is probably slightly too high considering Dallas is a decent team and played well in the opener, but back to back road games in 2 nights is tough - that's probably factored into the odds.
Yeah the Knicks got up but their 17 wins compared to Atlanta's 60 last year shows there is a fair difference between the sides ;) I think the bookies are overreacting a bit to each team's opening game. Atlanta will be fine, I'd expect them to bounce back after a day's break :)
Awesome thanks man! :)
I might leave Dallas alone, if anything I'll look at them with a 20 point headstart if its paying anything worth something. Otherwise I have to leave it by the sounds!
I'll definitely give Atlanta a look though, thanks ledge! 8)
clips should win easy
Changed my mind, gone Atlanta into Clippers straight wins!
Fingers crossed :P
I forgot one important thing.
Jordan burned the mavs in the off season.
The mavs will be doing every thing they can to win this game. Jordan will probably go to the free throw line 20+ times
Clips will play really hard im sure too.
Great call on the Hawks Jay, should've taken them on their line like you suggested! Now we've just gotta pray the Clippers get the job done!
Gotta say, actually enjoying following the games and I'm not even sure its only cause its a wonderful procrastination tool :P
So far 2/3 in the lines bets, just need Clips to win by over 10 and I'm home with the multi.
Stephen A really needs to stop talking about basketball.
Says he doesn't trust Rubio on the defensive end.. Rubio is literally one of the best PG defenders in the league. Stephen A also reckons that LaVine will be better than Rubio soon.. Why? Because he won a dunk contest? Lavine has been a horrible player so far in his career...
Quote from: elephants on October 30, 2015, 01:35:16 PM
Great call on the Hawks Jay, should've taken them on their line like you suggested! Now we've just gotta pray the Clippers get the job done!
Gotta say, actually enjoying following the games and I'm not even sure its only cause its a wonderful procrastination tool :P
there you go clips win easy, took the pedal of the accelarator in the last but 16 a handy win.
just quietly Griffin is in MVP form again
70% FG 8 Rebounds 4 Assits 33 points
65% FG 10 Rebounds 2 Assits 1 Steal 1 Block 26 Points
if he can keep up 25 and 10 on very efficient scoring the clips will go very far.
Quote from: elephants on October 30, 2015, 01:35:16 PM
Great call on the Hawks Jay, should've taken them on their line like you suggested! Now we've just gotta pray the Clippers get the job done!
Gotta say, actually enjoying following the games and I'm not even sure its only cause its a wonderful procrastination tool :P
You're welcome ;)
Quote from: Jayman on October 30, 2015, 05:37:26 PM
Quote from: elephants on October 30, 2015, 01:35:16 PM
Great call on the Hawks Jay, should've taken them on their line like you suggested! Now we've just gotta pray the Clippers get the job done!
Gotta say, actually enjoying following the games and I'm not even sure its only cause its a wonderful procrastination tool :P
You're welcome ;)
Haha you might regret that win, now I'll ask you for tips more often :P
Quote from: jvalles69 on October 30, 2015, 04:24:34 PM
So far 2/3 in the lines bets, just need Clips to win by over 10 and I'm home with the multi.
Cha-ching! 3/3 for the day!
Tomorrows mulit play:
Cavs
Jazz -7
OKC
Raptors +2.5
Bulls
Hawks -5
@$20.64
6, 5 and 4 folding them.
Quote from: elephants on October 30, 2015, 05:50:29 PM
Quote from: Jayman on October 30, 2015, 05:37:26 PM
Quote from: elephants on October 30, 2015, 01:35:16 PM
Great call on the Hawks Jay, should've taken them on their line like you suggested! Now we've just gotta pray the Clippers get the job done!
Gotta say, actually enjoying following the games and I'm not even sure its only cause its a wonderful procrastination tool :P
You're welcome ;)
Haha you might regret that win, now I'll ask you for tips more often :P
Hahah no worries man! I'll just make sure I don't bet on the ones that I suggest to you, guaranteed loss then :P
Gonna disagree with jvalles here, I reckon the best bets would be Denver and Washington tomorrow!
"Olajuwon was the best, but DeAndre has the most potential to be close." - Chris Webber, on defenders.
Oh man, somebody please make this stop... :-[
Hakeem KILLS DeAndre.... BY A MILE
C'Mon Webber, stop dribbling. Mutumbo is heaps better than DeAndre and he doesn't get much mention in the big guys category.
All set with $1 on this multi tomorrow ;)
Cavs
Washington by a margin of 1-10 points
Oklahoma
Denver
Jazz
Atlanta
Boston 1-10
Spurs
Golden State 1-10
Paying $118.95 so I might drop a leg or two yet :P any tips on what to drop? Or should I whack the buck on it yolo :P
If I dropped a leg or two or three and had the odds at 50-1 that wouldn't be too bad!
I dropped the Golden State, Washington and Spurs legs :P 30-1 is enough for me, few dollars on that!
Cavs Heat was a fizzer ::) Hopefully Warriors Rockets is a barn burner, with my new main man the beard :D
Quote from: elephants on October 31, 2015, 10:44:38 AM
I dropped the Golden State, Washington and Spurs legs :P 30-1 is enough for me, few dollars on that!
OKC must have pulled some heroics, down 3 with 16 seconds and now in OT
Harrison Barnes just posterized Dwight Howard :o
Rockets front court looking way better with Jones back and Harrell's energy
Quote from: jvalles69 on October 30, 2015, 07:26:02 PM
Tomorrows mulit play:
Cavs
Jazz -7
OKC
Raptors +2.5
Bulls
Hawks -5
@$20.64
6, 5 and 4 folding them.
4/6 ain't bad. Thats the beauty of folding your bets, most of the time you win back your outlay to fight another day. :)
Woah, just finished watching the 4th qtr + OTs of the Orlanda vs OKC game... That was unbelievable. ;D
KD hits the game-tying three, Oladipo comes back and hits the stepback 3 to take the lead, and then Russ hits a quarter-court bank shot at the buzzer to force OT.
Can't make this stuff up.
yeah the highlights package was :o
Yeah that was unbelievable!
Wizards, Golden State and Clips plus Jazz with a ten point headstart on the Pacers.
Paying 3-1
today ive got Warriors, Suns, Grizzlies and Clippers at 4/1
I used the bet365 website yesterday to watch the Kings v Lakers game. was good
Quote from: valkorum on November 01, 2015, 12:49:54 PM
I used the bet365 website yesterday to watch the Kings v Lakers game. was good
Can confirm William Hill is good too. Cuts out a bit but I think thats more my bad internet.
Steph might just be the best player in the world..
Quote from: Jayman on November 01, 2015, 01:32:24 PM
Steph might just be the best player in the world..
Insane...he's basically a 2K player straight off the screen.
Magic sunk my multi! :(
Steph is a gun, pops 3's from anywhere and some of the shower he pulls out is insane...
Also fair game to New York, love seeing a good come from behind win!
Quote from: jvalles69 on November 01, 2015, 01:53:21 PM
Quote from: Jayman on November 01, 2015, 01:32:24 PM
Steph might just be the best player in the world..
Insane...he's basically a 2K player straight off the screen.
that 3rd quarter was unreal 8)
Clippers struggling :o
Scratch that, good hustle Clips.
Both games look real tight!
Seeing some glimpses of 2012 Rondo here.. Being aggressive, getting into the paint and making things happen.
This is atrocious officiating! And it's cost the Kings big time here. Two missed charge calls and then Griffin gets a cheapie. All within the space of a minute.
Sucks because they've done really well to keep it this close without Cousins!
http://espn.go.com/nba/story/_/id/14023423/demarcus-cousins-sacramento-kings-leaves-losangeles-clippers-game-sore-right-achilles-tendon
Quote from: Jayman on November 01, 2015, 05:10:19 PM
This is atrocious officiating! And it's cost the Kings big time here. Two missed charge calls and then Griffin gets a cheapie. All within the space of a minute.
Sucks because they've done really well to keep it this close without Cousins!
They were charges every day of the week. Still I am not that upset losing, we took it to the Clippers twice in a week. They are obviously a contender in the West so that is good signs for us.
Hopefully its not serious for Cousins - the last report from the Kings is he is listed as day to day
Quote from: valkorum on November 01, 2015, 09:11:07 PM
Quote from: Jayman on November 01, 2015, 05:10:19 PM
This is atrocious officiating! And it's cost the Kings big time here. Two missed charge calls and then Griffin gets a cheapie. All within the space of a minute.
Sucks because they've done really well to keep it this close without Cousins!
They were charges every day of the week. Still I am not that upset losing, we took it to the Clippers twice in a week. They are obviously a contender in the West so that is good signs for us.
Hopefully its not serious for Cousins - the last report from the Kings is he is listed as day to day
Valk, what did you see from Rondo today? I was actually really impressed with him on both ends of the floor.
He has been really good. His passing has been back to his best but he has been hitting the mid range/3 point jump shots as well. That makes him dangerous. Defensively he has been ok - I wouldn't call him a liability but he aint no Patrick Beverly.
To be honest though I have been watching Willy Cauley-Stein more as he has been super impressive.
I like watching the big guys more than the guards.
Quote from: valkorum on November 01, 2015, 11:43:14 PM
He has been really good. His passing has been back to his best but he has been hitting the mid range/3 point jump shots as well. That makes him dangerous. Defensively he has been ok - I wouldn't call him a liability but he aint no Patrick Beverly.
To be honest though I have been watching Willy Cauley-Stein more as he has been super impressive.
Watching the game today I couldn't work out why they were playing Koufos down the stretch over WCS. In the stints where WCS was on the court, their defense just looked so much better because they had a dude who could actually protect the rim. Then when Koufos was in, there was no one to affect Blake or CP3 finishing..
If I'm Karl, I'm going with Rondo/Belinelli/Gay/Casspi/Cousins as my 5 with WCS and Collison as my first two guys off the bench. Also noticed that McLemore has been barely playing which was pretty surprising to me.
My starting 5 would be
Rondo
Belinelli
Gay
WCS
DMC
Caspi/Collison/Koufos/McLemore as the guys off the bench. McLemore has been in a slump since pre-season camp, not sure whats going on - from all reports he is working extremely hard.
cant overplay the rookies minutes early though, dare say they will keep WCS in the 20-25 minute range for the year
real talk, should I pick up WCS in my fantasy league? :P
Scoring system favours big men. I'd probably be tossing out an underwhelming Zach Lavine.
Quote from: My Chumps on November 02, 2015, 12:32:47 AM
real talk, should I pick up WCS in my fantasy league? :P
Scoring system favours big men. I'd probably be tossing out an underwhelming Zach Lavine.
I think LaVine is garbage, to be honest... Would grab WCS because if Cousins' injury is worse than we think, he could be playing big minutes.
Really like how hard this Celtics team plays. Taking it right up to the Spurs, shots just aren't falling.
Houston's offense is cooking. 30 points in 9 minutes!
Quote from: RiOtChEsS on November 02, 2015, 12:22:55 AM
cant overplay the rookies minutes early though, dare say they will keep WCS in the 20-25 minute range for the year
I agree that his minutes should be about that... but I also think he should start. Makes so much more sense with WCS next to Big Cuz
Quote from: My Chumps on November 02, 2015, 12:32:47 AM
real talk, should I pick up WCS in my fantasy league? :P
Scoring system favours big men. I'd probably be tossing out an underwhelming Zach Lavine.
Not sure how the scoring works but he will get a lot of his points from offensive rebounds.
I see him having this kind of year (per game)
6 - 10 points
5 - 10 rebounds
1 - 2 blocks
He will have games where he goes better than that (like the game against the Lakers) but I feel thats where his average will be.
Multi for today was:
Atl -1.5 over Cha (close one)
Spurs over Celtics
Rockets +2 over Heat
Raps over Bucks
Mavs over Lakers
Why you do dis Houston? :(
Went safe today!
Spurs and Hawks to win overnight - WIN
Thunder and Mavs to lead at HT and win - PENDING but Thunder 8 up at HT and still are mid way through Q3.
Went with Heat at home and I went crazy when I saw the half time score. WTF it's been a great second half to watch if you were a heat fan. Rockets couldn't play worse and Heat are on fire
Wow I stopped watching when Houston got up 14, and then I turn it back on and it's game over, Miami up 20 :o
Quote from: jvalles69 on November 02, 2015, 01:17:39 PM
Why you do dis Houston? :(
they havent been playing well it all, Harden is brick laying atm
Yeah Heat have gone crazy!
26 points to 65 second half? :o
Quote from: RiOtChEsS on November 02, 2015, 01:29:10 PM
Quote from: jvalles69 on November 02, 2015, 01:17:39 PM
Why you do dis Houston? :(
they havent been playing well it all, Harden is brick laying atm
Wish I had known Dwight was out before I placed my bet... Oh well, at least I have Wade and Whiteside in my fantasy team. ;D
DMC Injury Update
An MRI conducted this afternoon at Kaiser Permanente in Sacramento revealed that Kings center DeMarcus Cousins sustained a right achilles strain during the second quarter of last night's game against the L.A Clippers at the Staples Center. Cousins is listed as day to day going forward.
Every time Winslow makes a play, it breaks my heart a little :'(
Quote from: Jayman on November 02, 2015, 01:43:07 PM
Every time Winslow makes a play, it breaks my heart a little :'(
haha yeah that boy gonna be good 8)
Quote from: valkorum on November 02, 2015, 01:38:14 PM
DMC Injury Update
An MRI conducted this afternoon at Kaiser Permanente in Sacramento revealed that Kings center DeMarcus Cousins sustained a right achilles strain during the second quarter of last night's game against the L.A Clippers at the Staples Center. Cousins is listed as day to day going forward.
achilles is a serious injury no matter how minor the strain, that thing pops and season over and his potential limited
Quote from: RiOtChEsS on November 02, 2015, 01:53:09 PM
Quote from: valkorum on November 02, 2015, 01:38:14 PM
DMC Injury Update
An MRI conducted this afternoon at Kaiser Permanente in Sacramento revealed that Kings center DeMarcus Cousins sustained a right achilles strain during the second quarter of last night's game against the L.A Clippers at the Staples Center. Cousins is listed as day to day going forward.
achilles is a serious injury no matter how minor the strain, that thing pops and season over and his potential limited
Yeh you are right, I hope they err on the side of caution. We have Koufos and WCS who can cover for a while.
Vlade Divac (Kings GM) has said that Cousins will miss the next 2 games then they will re-assess. We have back to back games Wed/Thurs
Cavs losing to the 76ers at the half :o Should win from here though.
Quick update on the Lakers: They're still terrible.
Through 2 games Kobe had as many shot attempts as passes. Not assists, mind you. Passes
The Beard was finally on today, stuffed the stat sheet
The Celtics having Brooklyn's unprotected first round pick this year is going to bring me a lot of happiness. ;D
They're 0-4 and completely suck. Book your plane ticket to Boston, Ben Simmons ;D
Quote from: Jayman on November 03, 2015, 04:17:56 PM
The Celtics having Brooklyn's unprotected first round pick this year is going to bring me a lot of happiness. ;D
They're 0-4 and completely suck. Book your plane ticket to Boston, Ben Simmons ;D
I am so hype
Smart, Avery, Bae, Simmons, X
Quote from: plumdog millionaire on November 03, 2015, 04:26:47 PM
Quote from: Jayman on November 03, 2015, 04:17:56 PM
The Celtics having Brooklyn's unprotected first round pick this year is going to bring me a lot of happiness. ;D
They're 0-4 and completely suck. Book your plane ticket to Boston, Ben Simmons ;D
I am so hype
Smart, Avery, Bae, Simmons, X
I have high hopes for Dallas' first rounder too 8)
Celtics could finish as the 5 seed, then end up with picks 2, 10, plus their own ;D
developing a major man crush on Andre Drummond
Developing a man-crush on Atlanta Hawks who just keep stocking up my betting account!
Quote from: RiOtChEsS on November 04, 2015, 02:39:29 PM
developing a major man crush on Andre Drummond
29 rebounds is frigging nuts... Indian didn't really play a C though.
Looks like I'll be watching the fourth quarter of Raptors vs Mavs at uni in the library, shaping up as a cracker!
Quote from: jvalles69 on November 04, 2015, 03:20:16 PM
Quote from: RiOtChEsS on November 04, 2015, 02:39:29 PM
developing a major man crush on Andre Drummond
29 rebounds is frigging nuts... Indian didn't really play a C though.
been averaging 18 an 16 prior to today anyway 8)
Quote from: RiOtChEsS on November 04, 2015, 02:39:29 PM
developing a major man crush on Andre Drummond
I'm feeling the same with Karl Towns 8)
Honestly think he is the best player to enter the league since Anthony Davis. I am all in. The kid is already the best player on the T-Wolves and will be for as long as he's there :o
Hop onto the KAT bandwagon before it's too late!
Quote from: Jayman on November 04, 2015, 03:44:53 PM
Quote from: RiOtChEsS on November 04, 2015, 02:39:29 PM
developing a major man crush on Andre Drummond
I'm feeling the same with Karl Towns 8)
Honestly think he is the best player to enter the league since Anthony Davis. I am all in. The kid is already the best player on the T-Wolves and will be for as long as he's there :o
Hop onto the KAT bandwagon before it's too late!
agreed, he has been effective even when his shooting is off, mega potential
New starting lineup for Boston tonight, Isaiah/Bradley/Crowder/Sullinger/Amir. With Smart out injured. This is pretty much the exact lineup I was hoping for :D Celtics -2.5 over the Pacers is looking awfully tempting now ;) Lee and Zeller together just wasn't working, too slow, not enough shooting and not much defense.
Quote from: Jayman on October 23, 2015, 07:35:14 PM
He'll finish games though with the Isaiah/Smart/Crowder/Sullinger/Amir lineup probably being our best.
Quote from: Jayman on November 05, 2015, 10:52:26 AM
New starting lineup for Boston tonight, Isaiah/Bradley/Crowder/Sullinger/Amir. With Smart out injured. This is pretty much the exact lineup I was hoping for :D Celtics -2.5 over the Pacers is looking awfully tempting now ;) Lee and Zeller together just wasn't working, too slow, not enough shooting and not much defense.
Quote from: Jayman on October 23, 2015, 07:35:14 PM
He'll finish games though with the Isaiah/Smart/Crowder/Sullinger/Amir lineup probably being our best.
seems a long time ago that the great celtics were relevant.
Looks likely that McLemore will be dropped to the bench for tonights game against the Suns. Not sure yet, as to who takes the 2 spot in the starting lineup. Belinelli or Collison are the front runners.
hopefully Collison (fantasy value)
Quote from: valkorum on November 05, 2015, 11:42:43 AM
Looks likely that McLemore will be dropped to the bench for tonights game against the Suns. Not sure yet, as to who takes the 2 spot in the starting lineup. Belinelli or Collison are the front runners.
Bellinelli a much better fit next to Rondo.
Knicks are putting it on the Cavs early, up double digits
LeBron been acting a diva in this game, arguing calls, arguing while he is shooting free throws and missing them, ripping the sleeves on his jersey as if thats the reason he is missing shots, im sure he will tune in at some point when it matters and Cavs will win
So far 4/5 in my bets today. Pacers +2.5, Raps +9, Atl -8.5 and Cavs -9.5...waiting on Suns -8 for a $600 payout off a $30 bet! C'mon Suns!
Quote from: jvalles69 on November 05, 2015, 03:45:33 PM
So far 4/5 in my bets today. Pacers +2.5, Raps +9, Atl -8.5 and Cavs -9.5...waiting on Suns -8 for a $600 payout off a $30 bet! C'mon Suns!
w0w man fingers crossed for ya :o
Festus Ezeli just poster blocked Blake Griffin :o :o :o
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Quote from: jvalles69 on November 05, 2015, 03:45:33 PM
So far 4/5 in my bets today. Pacers +2.5, Raps +9, Atl -8.5 and Cavs -9.5...waiting on Suns -8 for a $600 payout off a $30 bet! C'mon Suns!
w0w man fingers crossed for ya :o
Yeah, just try my luck with a 5 multi each day (depending on # of games), 4 fold them and sometimes 3 fold them. You just need to hit 1 a fornight to make a good profit. End of last years season I was hitting 2 a week for the last 2 months of NBA regular season! Once again, c'mon Suns!
Congrats mate 8)
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So far 4/5 in my bets today. Pacers +2.5, Raps +9, Atl -8.5 and Cavs -9.5...waiting on Suns -8 for a $600 payout off a $30 bet! C'mon Suns!
w0w man fingers crossed for ya :o
Yeah, just try my luck with a 5 multi each day (depending on # of games), 4 fold them and sometimes 3 fold them. You just need to hit 1 a fornight to make a good profit. End of last years season I was hitting 2 a week for the last 2 months of NBA regular season! Once again, c'mon Suns!
I lied, payout was $450, good enough though, straight into the savings account. ;)
STEPHEN CURRY IS RIDICULOUS
Quote from: Jayman on November 05, 2015, 06:06:55 PM
STEPHEN CURRY IS RIDICULOUS
straight up, he is so comfortable within the game at the moment
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So far 4/5 in my bets today. Pacers +2.5, Raps +9, Atl -8.5 and Cavs -9.5...waiting on Suns -8 for a $600 payout off a $30 bet! C'mon Suns!
w0w man fingers crossed for ya :o
Yeah, just try my luck with a 5 multi each day (depending on # of games), 4 fold them and sometimes 3 fold them. You just need to hit 1 a fornight to make a good profit. End of last years season I was hitting 2 a week for the last 2 months of NBA regular season! Once again, c'mon Suns!
I lied, payout was $450, good enough though, straight into the savings account. ;)
next time u get a sweet bet like this hook a brother up with a tip :D
Quote from: RiOtChEsS on November 06, 2015, 12:11:04 AM
Quote from: Jayman on November 05, 2015, 06:06:55 PM
STEPHEN CURRY IS RIDICULOUS
straight up, he is so comfortable within the game at the moment
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So far 4/5 in my bets today. Pacers +2.5, Raps +9, Atl -8.5 and Cavs -9.5...waiting on Suns -8 for a $600 payout off a $30 bet! C'mon Suns!
w0w man fingers crossed for ya :o
Yeah, just try my luck with a 5 multi each day (depending on # of games), 4 fold them and sometimes 3 fold them. You just need to hit 1 a fornight to make a good profit. End of last years season I was hitting 2 a week for the last 2 months of NBA regular season! Once again, c'mon Suns!
I lied, payout was $450, good enough though, straight into the savings account. ;)
next time u get a sweet bet like this hook a brother up with a tip :D
Haha, it took 3 days of losing bets to hit this one, lol! Everytime I post my tips before the fact, they fail! I'll try one more time: Heat into OKC into Hornets into Jazz paying $13.90 (3 folded as well ie 1 leg can fail)
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Quote from: RiOtChEsS on November 06, 2015, 12:11:04 AM
Quote from: Jayman on November 05, 2015, 06:06:55 PM
STEPHEN CURRY IS RIDICULOUS
straight up, he is so comfortable within the game at the moment
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Quote from: jvalles69 on November 05, 2015, 03:55:39 PM
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Quote from: jvalles69 on November 05, 2015, 03:45:33 PM
So far 4/5 in my bets today. Pacers +2.5, Raps +9, Atl -8.5 and Cavs -9.5...waiting on Suns -8 for a $600 payout off a $30 bet! C'mon Suns!
w0w man fingers crossed for ya :o
Yeah, just try my luck with a 5 multi each day (depending on # of games), 4 fold them and sometimes 3 fold them. You just need to hit 1 a fornight to make a good profit. End of last years season I was hitting 2 a week for the last 2 months of NBA regular season! Once again, c'mon Suns!
I lied, payout was $450, good enough though, straight into the savings account. ;)
next time u get a sweet bet like this hook a brother up with a tip :D
Haha, it took 3 days of losing bets to hit this one, lol! Everytime I post my tips before the fact, they fail! I'll try one more time: Heat into OKC into Hornets into Jazz paying $13.90 (3 folded as well ie 1 leg can fail)
im on it guru :D i usually rock a multi each day to, im in a cold spell after being hot all week prior to this one
What does folding mean and how do we do it?
Quote from: JBs-Hawks on November 06, 2015, 12:42:35 AM
What does folding mean and how do we do it?
I think its where if one leg fails we can still get a payout at significantly worse odds. Most agencies have it at the bottom of the bet slip under where you put in your multi stake.
JV will know it though
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Quote from: JBs-Hawks on November 06, 2015, 12:42:35 AM
What does folding mean and how do we do it?
I think its where if one leg fails we can still get a payout at significantly worse odds. Most agencies have it at the bottom of the bet slip under where you put in your multi stake.
JV will know it though
Not necessarily worse odds, just odds if instead of a 4 bet multi it pays at a 3 bet multi. So say if you pick 4 events to multi and bet on that, to cover yourself you can "3 fold" it so there are 4 ways that 3 of those can be multied. So if you put $5 on a 3 fold for a 4 bet multi, it will cost $20 covering every combo of 3 available. So today I bet on 5 games, that multi came in plus i bet $5 on a "4 fold" that covered all "4 way" combos out of those 5 bets. I happened to hit all of them so got paid out on all of them, if I missed 1, I prob would've still got paid out around the $100-$135 mark and be up a profit.
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Quote from: Jayman on November 05, 2015, 06:06:55 PM
STEPHEN CURRY IS RIDICULOUS
straight up, he is so comfortable within the game at the moment
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So far 4/5 in my bets today. Pacers +2.5, Raps +9, Atl -8.5 and Cavs -9.5...waiting on Suns -8 for a $600 payout off a $30 bet! C'mon Suns!
w0w man fingers crossed for ya :o
Yeah, just try my luck with a 5 multi each day (depending on # of games), 4 fold them and sometimes 3 fold them. You just need to hit 1 a fornight to make a good profit. End of last years season I was hitting 2 a week for the last 2 months of NBA regular season! Once again, c'mon Suns!
I lied, payout was $450, good enough though, straight into the savings account. ;)
next time u get a sweet bet like this hook a brother up with a tip :D
Haha, it took 3 days of losing bets to hit this one, lol! Everytime I post my tips before the fact, they fail! I'll try one more time: Heat into OKC into Hornets into Jazz paying $13.90 (3 folded as well ie 1 leg can fail)
im on it guru :D i usually rock a multi each day to, im in a cold spell after being hot all week prior to this one
Hopefully we can get a win today! Not liking all the questionable players today though! :-\
how does steph curry do this
7/11 from 3 point range
1/6 from inside
also really liking my cavs if they can get healthy.
Miami 1-10 into Dallas -4 (or Hornets +4 I don't know yet) paying 4.87
#riskystuff
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Quote from: Jayman on November 05, 2015, 06:06:55 PM
STEPHEN CURRY IS RIDICULOUS
straight up, he is so comfortable within the game at the moment
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Quote from: jvalles69 on November 05, 2015, 03:55:39 PM
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Quote from: jvalles69 on November 05, 2015, 03:45:33 PM
So far 4/5 in my bets today. Pacers +2.5, Raps +9, Atl -8.5 and Cavs -9.5...waiting on Suns -8 for a $600 payout off a $30 bet! C'mon Suns!
w0w man fingers crossed for ya :o
Yeah, just try my luck with a 5 multi each day (depending on # of games), 4 fold them and sometimes 3 fold them. You just need to hit 1 a fornight to make a good profit. End of last years season I was hitting 2 a week for the last 2 months of NBA regular season! Once again, c'mon Suns!
I lied, payout was $450, good enough though, straight into the savings account. ;)
next time u get a sweet bet like this hook a brother up with a tip :D
Haha, it took 3 days of losing bets to hit this one, lol! Everytime I post my tips before the fact, they fail! I'll try one more time: Heat into OKC into Hornets into Jazz paying $13.90 (3 folded as well ie 1 leg can fail)
im on it guru :D i usually rock a multi each day to, im in a cold spell after being hot all week prior to this one
Hopefully we can get a win today! Not liking all the questionable players today though! :-\
yep i would have included Memphis over Portland if Gasol wasnt a game time decision, Portland represent value if he is out
went a three way with Bengals 11-20>Thunder>Heat about 11/1
Quote from: Holz on November 06, 2015, 11:13:23 AM
how does steph curry do this
7/11 from 3 point range
1/6 from inside
also really liking my cavs if they can get healthy.
I was 5/9 from 3 point range on Wed night... ???
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Quote from: Holz on November 06, 2015, 11:13:23 AM
how does steph curry do this
7/11 from 3 point range
1/6 from inside
also really liking my cavs if they can get healthy.
I was 5/9 from 3 point range on Wed night... ???
did you shoot 16% from 2 point range though.
5/9 a pretty good effort. especially if on a NBA court.
Quote from: jvalles69 on November 06, 2015, 12:14:29 PM
Quote from: Holz on November 06, 2015, 11:13:23 AM
how does steph curry do this
7/11 from 3 point range
1/6 from inside
also really liking my cavs if they can get healthy.
I was 5/9 from 3 point range on Wed night... ???
I don't think I've launched up 9 in-game threes in total through all the years I've played :P
Quote from: Jayman on November 06, 2015, 12:25:45 PM
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Quote from: Holz on November 06, 2015, 11:13:23 AM
how does steph curry do this
7/11 from 3 point range
1/6 from inside
also really liking my cavs if they can get healthy.
I was 5/9 from 3 point range on Wed night... ???
I don't think I've launched up 9 in-game threes in total through all the years I've played :P
i can shoot 3s but lost confidence when my firends groan when i shoot them.
annoyingly i was the best 3 point shooter in the team but i had to play Centre and centres dont shoot apparently. I wish Davis was playing back then :P
on that Davis has attempted 11 3s in 4 games and hit 4 of them. that aint great but aint bad for a big man.
Quote from: Jayman on November 06, 2015, 12:25:45 PM
Quote from: jvalles69 on November 06, 2015, 12:14:29 PM
Quote from: Holz on November 06, 2015, 11:13:23 AM
how does steph curry do this
7/11 from 3 point range
1/6 from inside
also really liking my cavs if they can get healthy.
I was 5/9 from 3 point range on Wed night... ???
I don't think I've launched up 9 in-game threes in total through all the years I've played :P
Haha, it was the last game of the season and we were 5th playing 1st, a win would have put us in finals and our 2 other shooting options were out. We were down by 12 with 3mins to go, I hit 2 3's to to tie the game with 1min left, they made a bucket with 10 seconds to go and then they fouled me before I could get up the court so time ran out, we lost by 2. :( And I didn't take a shot inside the arc, so 100%? ;D
Favors and Wade playing which is a good sign for the bets, Memphis could be iffy with Marc Gasol a game time decision.
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Quote from: Holz on November 06, 2015, 11:13:23 AM
how does steph curry do this
7/11 from 3 point range
1/6 from inside
also really liking my cavs if they can get healthy.
I was 5/9 from 3 point range on Wed night... ???
I don't think I've launched up 9 in-game threes in total through all the years I've played :P
Haha, it was the last game of the season and we were 5th playing 1st, a win would have put us in finals and our 2 other shooting options were out. We were down by 12 with 3mins to go, I hit 2 3's to to tie the game with 1min left, they made a bucket with 10 seconds to go and then they fouled me before I could get up the court so time ran out, we lost by 2. :( And I didn't take a shot inside the arc, so 100%? ;D
well 0% from inside the arc.
you miss 100% of the shots you dont take :P
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Quote from: Holz on November 06, 2015, 11:13:23 AM
how does steph curry do this
7/11 from 3 point range
1/6 from inside
also really liking my cavs if they can get healthy.
I was 5/9 from 3 point range on Wed night... ???
I don't think I've launched up 9 in-game threes in total through all the years I've played :P
Haha, it was the last game of the season and we were 5th playing 1st, a win would have put us in finals and our 2 other shooting options were out. We were down by 12 with 3mins to go, I hit 2 3's to to tie the game with 1min left, they made a bucket with 10 seconds to go and then they fouled me before I could get up the court so time ran out, we lost by 2. :( And I didn't take a shot inside the arc, so 100%? ;D
well 0% from inside the arc.
you miss 100% of the shots you dont take :P
:-[
OKC step yo game up! Marc Gasol warming up...
Opps just realised I don't have Memphis in my mulit's anyway. Wanted to put in Portland +4 but bit risky I thought.
screw u thunder ::)
Quote from: RiOtChEsS on November 06, 2015, 03:29:28 PM
screw u thunder ::)
OKC :(
This is why I "fold" my bets, hopefully Jazz can steal this from the Nugs...
Quote from: RiOtChEsS on November 06, 2015, 03:29:28 PM
screw u thunder ::)
Agreed they have cost me multis back to back in the last 2 days
So got my money back today with my 3 folds. Tomorrows early play:
Raps into Wiz into Bucks into Hawks into Pistons
http://larrybrownsports.com/basketball/lebron-james-help-up-kevin-love-video/280403
I still have no idea why Love signed there.
Quote from: jvalles69 on November 06, 2015, 05:43:12 PM
So got my money back today with my 3 folds. Tomorrows early play:
Raps into Wiz into Bucks into Hawks into Pistons
are you with sportsbet?
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thats what my options look like, is that folding?
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Quote from: jvalles69 on November 06, 2015, 05:43:12 PM
So got my money back today with my 3 folds. Tomorrows early play:
Raps into Wiz into Bucks into Hawks into Pistons
are you with sportsbet?
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thats what my options look like, is that folding?
Yep, so for folding 6 I usually put a $5er each on the 5 fold there, maybe $1-$2 each on the 4 fold and thats it, but can always go like .25c on the 3 fold if you want.
No more betting talk in here please. take it to PM if you have to
Quote from: valkorum on November 06, 2015, 09:43:15 PM
No more betting talk in here please. take it to PM if you have to
Can it go to the "Bets" thread?
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Quote from: RiOtChEsS on November 06, 2015, 08:43:11 PM
Quote from: jvalles69 on November 06, 2015, 05:43:12 PM
So got my money back today with my 3 folds. Tomorrows early play:
Raps into Wiz into Bucks into Hawks into Pistons
are you with sportsbet?
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thats what my options look like, is that folding?
Yep, so for folding 6 I usually put a $5er each on the 5 fold there, maybe $1-$2 each on the 4 fold and thats it, but can always go like .25c on the 3 fold if you want.
cheers jvalles 8)
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Quote from: valkorum on November 06, 2015, 09:43:15 PM
No more betting talk in here please. take it to PM if you have to
Can it go to the "Bets" thread?
I always forget about that thread in The Front Bar - yes you can take it there.
Four leg multi tomorrow...
Atlanta Hawks, Brooklyn Nets, Phoenix Suns and Milwaukee Bucks.
If 3/4 get up its money back paying $6.09!
Have never wanted the Lakers to win more than I do tonight! Send those Nets to 0-6 ;D
Ben Simmons gonna look good in that Celtics green!
Indiana's uniform look horrendous ;D
Celtics r torching The Wiz :o
Quote from: RiOtChEsS on November 07, 2015, 01:28:48 PM
Indiana's uniform look horrendous ;D
(http://i.cdn.turner.com/drp/nba/pacers/sites/default/files/styles/main_gallery_photo__480_tall/public/dsc_0186_2.jpg?itok=FH1hBmGS)
Quote from: RiOtChEsS on November 07, 2015, 01:36:13 PM
Celtics r torching The Wiz :o
Coach Stevens noticed that our starting 5 wasn't working, made the changes quickly, and we're right back on track 8)
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Quote from: RiOtChEsS on November 07, 2015, 01:36:13 PM
Celtics r torching The Wiz :o
Coach Stevens noticed that our starting 5 wasn't working, made the changes quickly, and we're right back on track 8)
still, THE WIZ ???
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Quote from: Jayman on November 07, 2015, 01:43:53 PM
Quote from: RiOtChEsS on November 07, 2015, 01:36:13 PM
Celtics r torching The Wiz :o
Coach Stevens noticed that our starting 5 wasn't working, made the changes quickly, and we're right back on track 8)
still, THE WIZ ???
This shower can happen when you're starting Kris Humphries :P
Chips still sucks. He missed two open lay ups
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Quote from: Jayman on November 07, 2015, 01:43:53 PM
Quote from: RiOtChEsS on November 07, 2015, 01:36:13 PM
Celtics r torching The Wiz :o
Coach Stevens noticed that our starting 5 wasn't working, made the changes quickly, and we're right back on track 8)
still, THE WIZ ???
This shower can happen when you're starting Kris Humphries :P
;D ;D ;D true
When u watch carefully its obvious Paul George does not have complete confidence in that leg yet and can still put up 30+ ???
Nets are 0-6 ;D
Twolves went into Chi town and beat the Bulls by 9, Wiggins dropped 31 :o
Quote from: RiOtChEsS on November 08, 2015, 02:06:38 PM
Twolves went into Chi town and beat the Bulls by 9, Wiggins dropped 31 :o
Bulls beat OKC, but lose to Min and Cha...
Bucks about to drop Brooklyn to 0-7 ;D
Anyone remember when the last time was that a team had to convey a top 2 pick?
Quote from: Jayman on November 08, 2015, 03:40:10 PM
Bucks about to drop Brooklyn to 0-7 ;D
Anyone remember when the last time was that a team had to convey a top 2 pick?
This is too fun. I remember Kanter was taken with the 3rd pick that was traded to the Jazz from years ago, but top 2 I'm not so sure
Len Bias was the 2nd pick traded from the Sonics way back when
Harden has made 9 of 55 3's prior to the one he just made :o
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Bucks about to drop Brooklyn to 0-7 ;D
Anyone remember when the last time was that a team had to convey a top 2 pick?
This is too fun. I remember Kanter was taken with the 3rd pick that was traded to the Jazz from years ago, but top 2 I'm not so sure
Len Bias was the 2nd pick traded from the Sonics way back when
:'(
But yeah, I figure what what I've seen so far Brooklyn and Philly are the two awful teams this year. Fingers crossed we don't get shafted in the lottery again.. :-\
I just looked up the stats on Harden
James Harden: 13 of 65 from 3 point range at 20%, total FG% of 34.4% off 125 shots
For comparison,
Curry: 36 of 70 from outside, 51.4%, total FG% of 56.9% off 123 shots.
The difference in scoring efficiency is just insane.
The Truth just hit a game tying 3 with around 35 seconds left, Harden draws a foul and hits both FT's to put Houston back up by two
Doc looks like he is going to kill the refs after that
Quote from: Mat0369 on November 08, 2015, 06:00:29 PM
The Truth just hit a game tying 3 with around 35 seconds left, Harden draws a foul and hits both FT's to put Houston back up by two
I feel like I've seen this about a hundred times over the years.
Poor Brooklyn :(
http://ftw.usatoday.com/2015/11/kevin-love-has-slowly-evolved-into-ben-stiller-from-dodgeball
I really like Porzingis.. The kid can ball
Quote from: Jayman on November 09, 2015, 10:23:03 AM
I really Porzingis.. The kid can ball
hope he leaves the Knicks cant believe they booed him.
unlike bennett he actually can play.
I'd have Andre Drummond's babies :-X
Quote from: RiOtChEsS on November 09, 2015, 06:18:15 PM
I'd have Andre Drummond's babies :-X
He would destroy you. ;D
Quote from: RiOtChEsS on November 09, 2015, 06:18:15 PM
I'd have Andre Drummond's babies :-X
Didn't expect Detroit to play this well! Is it crazy to think that they're a chance to land home-court advantage? Cleveland obviously are the elite team of the east, then Miami and Atlanta in the next tier.. Detroit could well be next! Or is it too early? ???
Pick 'n Roll with Reggie and Drummond is unguardable when you've got shooters around them like the Pistons do. SVG running the same style as when he took Orlando and Dwight to the finals ;)
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Quote from: RiOtChEsS on November 09, 2015, 06:18:15 PM
I'd have Andre Drummond's babies :-X
He would destroy you. ;D
yes, yes, id let him ;D
Quote from: Jayman on November 09, 2015, 07:48:41 PM
Quote from: RiOtChEsS on November 09, 2015, 06:18:15 PM
I'd have Andre Drummond's babies :-X
Didn't expect Detroit to play this well! Is it crazy to think that they're a chance to land home-court advantage? Cleveland obviously are the elite team of the east, then Miami and Atlanta in the next tier.. Detroit could well be next! Or is it too early? ???
Pick 'n Roll with Reggie and Drummond is unguardable when you've got shooters around them like the Pistons do. SVG running the same style as when he took Orlando and Dwight to the finals ;)
damn straight, too early maybe, however you are right, same system... Taking Drummond at 17 is paying dividends for me
Drummond first guy since Wilt to average 20 n 20 through 6 games
Man... Towns and Wiggins together is going to be something special
Quote from: Jayman on November 10, 2015, 03:19:19 PM
Man... Towns and Wiggins together is going to be something special
knocked off Atlanta in Atlanta, these Wolves for real?
>:( >:( >:( Knicks over Raps in Toronto gimme a flowering break ::)
Every other leg got up! :'(
And Carmelo Anthony... THAT WAS OUTTA BOUNDS, THAT WAS OUTTA BOUNDS, THAT WAS OUTTA BOUNDS, THAT WAS OUTTA BOUNDS, THAT WAS OUTTA BOUNDS, THAT WAS OUTTA BOUNDS, THAT WAS OUTTA BOUNDS, THAT WAS OUTTA BOUNDS, THAT WAS OUTTA BOUNDS, THAT WAS OUTTA BOUNDS, THAT WAS OUTTA BOUNDS, THAT WAS OUTTA BOUNDS, THAT WAS OUTTA BOUNDS, THAT WAS OUTTA BOUNDS, THAT WAS OUTTA BOUNDS, THAT WAS OUTTA BOUNDS, THAT WAS OUTTA BOUNDS, THAT WAS OUTTA BOUNDS, THAT WAS OUTTA BOUNDS!!!!
:( Coulda been $150 richer!
Celts starting to get rolling 8)
Beat the Wizards by 20, and then Milwaukee by 15 in back to back games. Starting from Monday we've got a very tough 3 game stretch of Atlanta, Oklahoma City and Houston - will be a good test.
Quote from: elephants on November 11, 2015, 03:07:00 PM
And Carmelo Anthony... THAT WAS OUTTA BOUNDS, THAT WAS OUTTA BOUNDS, THAT WAS OUTTA BOUNDS, THAT WAS OUTTA BOUNDS, THAT WAS OUTTA BOUNDS, THAT WAS OUTTA BOUNDS, THAT WAS OUTTA BOUNDS, THAT WAS OUTTA BOUNDS, THAT WAS OUTTA BOUNDS, THAT WAS OUTTA BOUNDS, THAT WAS OUTTA BOUNDS, THAT WAS OUTTA BOUNDS, THAT WAS OUTTA BOUNDS, THAT WAS OUTTA BOUNDS, THAT WAS OUTTA BOUNDS, THAT WAS OUTTA BOUNDS, THAT WAS OUTTA BOUNDS, THAT WAS OUTTA BOUNDS, THAT WAS OUTTA BOUNDS!!!!
Sure was! Dwane Casey was not happy, and rightfully so :-X
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Quote from: elephants on November 11, 2015, 03:07:00 PM
And Carmelo Anthony... THAT WAS OUTTA BOUNDS, THAT WAS OUTTA BOUNDS, THAT WAS OUTTA BOUNDS, THAT WAS OUTTA BOUNDS, THAT WAS OUTTA BOUNDS, THAT WAS OUTTA BOUNDS, THAT WAS OUTTA BOUNDS, THAT WAS OUTTA BOUNDS, THAT WAS OUTTA BOUNDS, THAT WAS OUTTA BOUNDS, THAT WAS OUTTA BOUNDS, THAT WAS OUTTA BOUNDS, THAT WAS OUTTA BOUNDS, THAT WAS OUTTA BOUNDS, THAT WAS OUTTA BOUNDS, THAT WAS OUTTA BOUNDS, THAT WAS OUTTA BOUNDS, THAT WAS OUTTA BOUNDS, THAT WAS OUTTA BOUNDS!!!!
Sure was! Dwane Casey was not happy, and rightfully so :-X
Can't believe it, and the reaction from Casey was brilliant!
This is easily my favourite rookie class in a long time! Towns, Porzingis, Winslow, Mudiay, Okafor, Russel, WCS, Hezonja, Stanley, Turner.. So much talent. Towns is in a league of his own, but Kristaps has been the next most impressive from what I've seen - Knick fans don't deserve him. All of those guys have the potential to be an all-star or better.
I'm gonna say that this will be the best draft class since LBJ, Wade, Melo, Bosh etc. And Darko of course :P
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=efNQHEvLwuk
Go to the 17:30 mark and watch the weekend woopsies. Best 2 are Kemba Walker and James Harden interview
Quote from: Jayman on November 11, 2015, 10:58:22 PM
This is easily my favourite rookie class in a long time! Towns, Porzingis, Winslow, Mudiay, Okafor, Russel, WCS, Hezonja, Stanley, Turner.. So much talent. Towns is in a league of his own, but Kristaps has been the next most impressive from what I've seen - Knick fans don't deserve him. All of those guys have the potential to be an all-star or better.
I'm gonna say that this will be the best draft class since LBJ, Wade, Melo, Bosh etc. And Darko of course :P
yeah definitely agree
Porzingod hit a game-winner.. But it was ruled just after the buzzer :(
I want Stephen A and all the other Knick fans who complained when New York took Porzingod to come out and apologise :-X Kid is an absolute stud.
Looks to me like he got the shot off in time too :o
Call on the floor was a made basket, didn't see clear evidence to overturn it ???
Quote from: Jayman on November 12, 2015, 02:40:49 PM
Looks to me like he got the shot off in time too :o
Call on the floor was a made basket, didn't see clear evidence to overturn it ???
Anthony was outta bounds (cheers BT) yesterday so karma balances things :P
Porzingas leading the league in putback dunks - 6
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Quote from: Jayman on November 12, 2015, 02:40:49 PM
Looks to me like he got the shot off in time too :o
Call on the floor was a made basket, didn't see clear evidence to overturn it ???
Anthony was outta bounds (cheers BT) yesterday so karma balances things :P
Hahah BT commentating NBA would be a laugh.
"Now he gives the pass to DURAYAYAYAYAYNT. DURANT SCORES!"
The Clips are gonna lose to The Mavs :o
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Looks to me like he got the shot off in time too :o
Call on the floor was a made basket, didn't see clear evidence to overturn it ???
Anthony was outta bounds (cheers BT) yesterday so karma balances things :P
Hahah BT commentating NBA would be a laugh.
"Now he gives the pass to DURAYAYAYAYAYNT. DURANT SCORES!"
Hahaha "Curry for threeeeeee, BOY OH BOY THIS BOY CAN PLAY"
Quote from: RiOtChEsS on November 12, 2015, 02:59:53 PM
The Clips are gonna lose to The Mavs :o
Went 8-0 to end the third and are no only 6 down! Biiiiig last quarter coming up.
In other news, Broooooklyn one time!
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Quote from: Jayman on November 12, 2015, 02:40:49 PM
Looks to me like he got the shot off in time too :o
Call on the floor was a made basket, didn't see clear evidence to overturn it ???
Anthony was outta bounds (cheers BT) yesterday so karma balances things :P
Hahah BT commentating NBA would be a laugh.
"Now he gives the pass to DURAYAYAYAYAYNT. DURANT SCORES!"
Hahaha "Curry for threeeeeee, BOY OH BOY THIS BOY CAN PLAY"
"WHAT A BLOCK BY ANTHONY 'THE PACKAGE' DAVIS!! I'M TELLING YA DARCE, THIS GUY HAS THE PACKAGE!"
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Looks to me like he got the shot off in time too :o
Call on the floor was a made basket, didn't see clear evidence to overturn it ???
Anthony was outta bounds (cheers BT) yesterday so karma balances things :P
Hahah BT commentating NBA would be a laugh.
"Now he gives the pass to DURAYAYAYAYAYNT. DURANT SCORES!"
Hahaha "Curry for threeeeeee, BOY OH BOY THIS BOY CAN PLAY"
"WHAT A BLOCK BY ANTHONY 'THE PACKAGE' DAVIS!! I'M TELLING YA DARCE, THIS GUY HAS THE PACKAGE!"
Hahahah, the BT facebook page is gold and the comments by Richo and Darce add to the hilarity :')
I'm pretty new to all this... But Dallas hates DeAndre Jordan and they are so far inside his head its not funny.
Damn it Houston, how do you get out-scored by double digits in the fourth quarter vs Brooklyn...
There's a bit of feeling in this one!
Quote from: Jayman on November 12, 2015, 03:27:12 PM
Damn it Houston, how do you get out-scored by double digits in the fourth quarter vs Brooklyn...
exactly
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Damn it Houston, how do you get out-scored by double digits in the fourth quarter vs Brooklyn...
exactly
Brooklyn pretty much the best team in the comp! Thats how! :p
the only thing stopping Curry for MVP is an injury, he has already done enough imo
Clippers lost four in five now, looking terrible!
Quote from: elephants on November 13, 2015, 09:54:15 PM
Clippers lost four in five now, looking terrible!
Griffin was ejected in the first half today, would have had a fair impact
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Clippers lost four in five now, looking terrible!
Griffin was ejected in the first half today, would have had a fair impact
Agreed, they were still about 10 down at HT though
I think the Celtics takedown the Hawks today... i hope :D
Quote from: RiOtChEsS on November 14, 2015, 10:50:55 AM
I think the Celtics takedown the Hawks today... i hope :D
So do I ;)
Heat reportedly pursuing Durant this summer
Quote from: RiOtChEsS on November 15, 2015, 01:42:04 PM
Heat reportedly pursuing Durant this summer
Join the cue :P
Millsap misses a 2 point shot with a second on the clock and the Hawks lose to the Jazz by a point! :(
Celtics ;)
Quote from: Jayman on November 16, 2015, 02:58:58 PM
Celtics ;)
they are legit, will definitely make playoffs, old school team ball to love it
1st game Jae Crowder has played this year without multiple steals #elitethief
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Quote from: Jayman on November 16, 2015, 02:58:58 PM
Celtics ;)
they are legit, will definitely make playoffs, old school team ball to love it
1st game Jae Crowder has played this year without multiple steals #elitethief
They're 2.70 to beat the Rockets tomorrow, looks like value!
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Quote from: Jayman on November 16, 2015, 02:58:58 PM
Celtics ;)
they are legit, will definitely make playoffs, old school team ball to love it
1st game Jae Crowder has played this year without multiple steals #elitethief
They're 2.70 to beat the Rockets tomorrow, looks like value!
definitely the rockets stink atm
rekn Philly could get that elusive W today ;)
Quote from: RiOtChEsS on November 17, 2015, 11:13:06 AM
rekn Philly could get that elusive W today ;)
Hope not! But I have a feeling you could be spot on mate!
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Quote from: RiOtChEsS on November 17, 2015, 11:13:06 AM
rekn Philly could get that elusive W today ;)
Hope not! But I have a feeling you could be spot on mate!
i think PHI, OKC and BOS win today ;)
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Quote from: RiOtChEsS on November 17, 2015, 11:13:06 AM
rekn Philly could get that elusive W today ;)
Hope not! But I have a feeling you could be spot on mate!
i think PHI, OKC and BOS win today ;)
Left Philly out :P (Bulls, Spurs, Suns plus Rangers in NHL)
Got tenners on OKC and BOS!
Woah, Mavs up 16-4 early haha. How wrong were we!
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rekn Philly could get that elusive W today ;)
Hope not! But I have a feeling you could be spot on mate!
i think PHI, OKC and BOS win today ;)
Left Philly out :P (Bulls, Spurs, Suns plus Rangers in NHL)
Got tenners on OKC and BOS!
BOS are gone, up 30 :o
Bulls!
Jimmy Butler with the block on Paul George!
Man this Celtic team is good 8)
Back to back road wins vs western conference playoff teams ;D
Yup, Celtics carved the Rockets in that second half. Cant believe they went in as underdogs!
they are playing the right type of basketball
So now the Rockets are copying the Kings
Player only meeting to get back on track.
Well something needs to be done haha
Hawks you flowering suck!
Nets wrecked my multi, but they won ;D
Quote from: RiOtChEsS on November 18, 2015, 10:47:57 AM
they are playing the right type of basketball
Blueprint on how to rebuild. I hope Philly fans are enjoying their 'process' ;)
KRISTAPS IS A STUD
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Quote from: RiOtChEsS on November 18, 2015, 10:47:57 AM
they are playing the right type of basketball
Blueprint on how to rebuild. I hope Philly fans are enjoying their 'process' ;)
haha yeah how is that process panning out
Quote from: Jayman on November 18, 2015, 03:00:23 PM
Quote from: RiOtChEsS on November 18, 2015, 10:47:57 AM
they are playing the right type of basketball
Blueprint on how to rebuild. I hope Philly fans are enjoying their 'process' ;)
still reckon philly will be ahead of the celtics soon.
Quote from: Holz on November 18, 2015, 03:24:07 PM
Quote from: Jayman on November 18, 2015, 03:00:23 PM
Quote from: RiOtChEsS on November 18, 2015, 10:47:57 AM
they are playing the right type of basketball
Blueprint on how to rebuild. I hope Philly fans are enjoying their 'process' ;)
still reckon philly will be ahead of the celtics soon.
Because of their 2 good centres and 1 irrelevant centre?
Quote from: elephants on November 18, 2015, 02:42:44 PM
Hawks you flowering suck!
Nets wrecked my multi, but they won ;D
haha i had the reverse of that today when Miami went down to the Twolves
Quote from: Jayman on November 18, 2015, 03:38:15 PM
Quote from: Holz on November 18, 2015, 03:24:07 PM
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Quote from: RiOtChEsS on November 18, 2015, 10:47:57 AM
they are playing the right type of basketball
Blueprint on how to rebuild. I hope Philly fans are enjoying their 'process' ;)
still reckon philly will be ahead of the celtics soon.
Because of their 2 good centres and 1 irrelevant centre?
jokes right ???
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Quote from: Jayman on November 18, 2015, 03:38:15 PM
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Quote from: RiOtChEsS on November 18, 2015, 10:47:57 AM
they are playing the right type of basketball
Blueprint on how to rebuild. I hope Philly fans are enjoying their 'process' ;)
still reckon philly will be ahead of the celtics soon.
Because of their 2 good centres and 1 irrelevant centre?
jokes right ???
Three sub-20 win seasons in a row, and have started this one off 0-11... What do they have to show for it? 3 guys who play the same position and one can't even get near the court :-X
Quote from: Jayman on November 18, 2015, 04:27:27 PM
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Quote from: RiOtChEsS on November 18, 2015, 10:47:57 AM
they are playing the right type of basketball
Blueprint on how to rebuild. I hope Philly fans are enjoying their 'process' ;)
still reckon philly will be ahead of the celtics soon.
Because of their 2 good centres and 1 irrelevant centre?
jokes right ???
Three sub-20 win seasons in a row, and have started this one off 0-11... What do they have to show for it? 3 guys who play the same position and one can't even get near the court :-X
depends if embiid can get on to the court. they do only have two players but they are quality players. they do actually need to pick up some guards though.
alot will depend on who they pick up in next years draft.
If they can land Simmons as a Point Forward i will be all over them.
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Quote from: RiOtChEsS on November 18, 2015, 10:47:57 AM
they are playing the right type of basketball
Blueprint on how to rebuild. I hope Philly fans are enjoying their 'process' ;)
still reckon philly will be ahead of the celtics soon.
Because of their 2 good centres and 1 irrelevant centre?
jokes right ???
Three sub-20 win seasons in a row, and have started this one off 0-11... What do they have to show for it? 3 guys who play the same position and one can't even get near the court :-X
depends if embiid can get on to the court. they do only have two players but they are quality players. they do actually need to pick up some guards though.
alot will depend on who they pick up in next years draft.
If they can land Simmons as a Point Forward i will be all over them.
so not really soon so much as in the future
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Quote from: RiOtChEsS on November 18, 2015, 10:47:57 AM
they are playing the right type of basketball
Blueprint on how to rebuild. I hope Philly fans are enjoying their 'process' ;)
still reckon philly will be ahead of the celtics soon.
Because of their 2 good centres and 1 irrelevant centre?
jokes right ???
Three sub-20 win seasons in a row, and have started this one off 0-11... What do they have to show for it? 3 guys who play the same position and one can't even get near the court :-X
depends if embiid can get on to the court. they do only have two players but they are quality players. they do actually need to pick up some guards though.
alot will depend on who they pick up in next years draft.
If they can land Simmons as a Point Forward i will be all over them.
so not really soon so much as in the future
depends what you call soon. I call 2-3 years soon
Drummond has hauled in a double-double in all 11 games this season and this one was another huge one to end the Pistons' four-game losing streak. He's averaging an otherworldly 18.4 PPG and 20.1 RPG in the month of November.
Cousins - West Player of the Week
Should have been Rondo - 3 triple doubles from 4 games
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Quote from: RiOtChEsS on November 18, 2015, 10:47:57 AM
they are playing the right type of basketball
Blueprint on how to rebuild. I hope Philly fans are enjoying their 'process' ;)
still reckon philly will be ahead of the celtics soon.
Because of their 2 good centres and 1 irrelevant centre?
jokes right ???
Three sub-20 win seasons in a row, and have started this one off 0-11... What do they have to show for it? 3 guys who play the same position and one can't even get near the court :-X
depends if embiid can get on to the court. they do only have two players but they are quality players. they do actually need to pick up some guards though.
alot will depend on who they pick up in next years draft.
If they can land Simmons as a Point Forward i will be all over them.
so not really soon so much as in the future
depends what you call soon. I call 2-3 years soon
Right so 6-7 years of being terrible, for one day maybe having a decent team.. Congrats Philly fans. Embiid has more chance of being out of the league in 2-3 years than he does of being a really good player - and I loved him coming out of college.
I'll take a young Boston team with an amazing coach that is already proving they can win games thanks.
Quote from: RiOtChEsS on November 18, 2015, 05:49:33 PM
Drummond has hauled in a double-double in all 11 games this season and this one was another huge one to end the Pistons' four-game losing streak. He's averaging an otherworldly 18.4 PPG and 20.1 RPG in the month of November.
Don't forget my man Whiteside. triple double with blocks! :o
Quote from: valkorum on November 18, 2015, 06:02:53 PM
Cousins - West Player of the Week
Should have been Rondo - 3 triple doubles from 4 games
Rondo looks like he's playing a crazy amount of minutes recently, Valk. Does Karl not trust his bench guys? Mclemore seems to have dropped off a fair bit..
Quote from: Jayman on November 18, 2015, 07:03:49 PM
Quote from: valkorum on November 18, 2015, 06:02:53 PM
Cousins - West Player of the Week
Should have been Rondo - 3 triple doubles from 4 games
Rondo looks like he's playing a crazy amount of minutes recently, Valk. Does Karl not trust his bench guys? Mclemore seems to have dropped off a fair bit..
Rondo will drop off, especially when Collison is back.
Quote from: Jayman on November 18, 2015, 07:03:49 PM
Quote from: valkorum on November 18, 2015, 06:02:53 PM
Cousins - West Player of the Week
Should have been Rondo - 3 triple doubles from 4 games
Rondo looks like he's playing a crazy amount of minutes recently, Valk. Does Karl not trust his bench guys? Mclemore seems to have dropped off a fair bit..
He played 2 games of 48mins because Collison and Seth Curry were both injured - they are the only other PG's on the roster
McLemore, Bellinelli are SG's
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Quote from: RiOtChEsS on November 18, 2015, 05:49:33 PM
Drummond has hauled in a double-double in all 11 games this season and this one was another huge one to end the Pistons' four-game losing streak. He's averaging an otherworldly 18.4 PPG and 20.1 RPG in the month of November.
Don't forget my man Whiteside. triple double with blocks! :o
yessss he looked amazeballs today 8)
Quote from: RiOtChEsS on November 19, 2015, 12:12:35 AM
Quote from: jvalles69 on November 18, 2015, 06:10:38 PM
Quote from: RiOtChEsS on November 18, 2015, 05:49:33 PM
Drummond has hauled in a double-double in all 11 games this season and this one was another huge one to end the Pistons' four-game losing streak. He's averaging an otherworldly 18.4 PPG and 20.1 RPG in the month of November.
Don't forget my man Whiteside. triple double with blocks! :o
yessss he looked amazeballs today 8)
I'm loving the Heat this year. #2 team in the east if they're healthy, and it ain't even close.
Whiteside has certainly taken his 2nd chance and run with it (actually about his 17th chance but you know what I mean). The Kings drafted him, lobbed him down to the Reno Bighorns in the D-League and then cut him.... now look at him.
In other news - Rockets fire Kevin McHale
http://basketball.realgm.com/wiretap/239895/Rockets-Fire-Kevin-McHale-Promote-JB-Bickerstaff-To-Interim-Head-Coach
The Rockets have fired HC Kevin McHale.
premature imo
Orlando look cooked, Boston look insaaaane
Quote from: elephants on November 19, 2015, 01:05:15 PM
Orlando look cooked, Boston look insaaaane
Wolves have been money on the road wink :D nah seriously they 5-1, 0-5 at home :o
Quote from: elephants on November 19, 2015, 01:05:15 PM
Orlando look cooked, Boston look insaaaane
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Quote from: elephants on November 19, 2015, 01:05:15 PM
Orlando look cooked, Boston look insaaaane
Wolves have been money on the road wink :D nah seriously they 5-1, 0-5 at home :o
haha what do I know! Orlando bouncing right back, up by 7 with 4 mins left!
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Orlando look cooked, Boston look insaaaane
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Quote from: elephants on November 19, 2015, 01:05:15 PM
Orlando look cooked, Boston look insaaaane
Wolves have been money on the road wink :D nah seriously they 5-1, 0-5 at home :o
haha what do I know! Orlando bouncing right back, up by 7 with 4 mins left!
haha yeah everyone makes a run in the NBA... except for Philly, they happy thinkin about it :P
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Orlando look cooked, Boston look insaaaane
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Quote from: elephants on November 19, 2015, 01:05:15 PM
Orlando look cooked, Boston look insaaaane
Wolves have been money on the road wink :D nah seriously they 5-1, 0-5 at home :o
haha what do I know! Orlando bouncing right back, up by 7 with 4 mins left!
haha yeah everyone makes a run in the NBA... except for Philly, they happy thinkin about it :P
Wiggins big time, goin OT
Wowee, OT it is!
Get in Magic.
Now Celtic look in strife!
Wow Houston are junk!
Quote from: jvalles69 on November 19, 2015, 02:56:23 PM
Wow Houston are junk!
the only healthy team the warriors played and were said to be a legit threat.
Boston had a massive chance to win there, Thomas lost it though.
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Wow Houston are junk!
the only healthy team the warriors played and were said to be a legit threat.
Ok I spoke too soon, big comeback at the moment!
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Quote from: jvalles69 on November 19, 2015, 02:56:23 PM
Wow Houston are junk!
the only healthy team the warriors played and were said to be a legit threat.
The Warriors are 95-20 in their last 115 regular season + playoff games.
Its J-Will's 40th birthday today so Rondo pulls out the tribute during todays game against the Hawks
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x_mjISjvbsg
Quote from: valkorum on November 19, 2015, 10:34:43 PM
Its J-Will's 40th birthday today so Rondo pulls out the tribute during todays game against the Hawks
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x_mjISjvbsg
Ahh that brings back memories. Always loved that ball fake.
Good to see you're enjoying the Rondo experience, Valk ;)
4 triple doubles in 12 games - I like that.
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Wow Houston are junk!
the only healthy team the warriors played and were said to be a legit threat.
The Warriors are 95-20 in their last 115 regular season + playoff games.
haha Houston clearly arent the same team
this year
Westbrook straight out ballin this year again
28.1 points off 46.8% FG
7.8 rebounds with 2.3 offensive
10.4 assists
2.2 steals
I know it just goes to the best player on the a top seed team but easily my MVP at this stage of the year.
curry get back to me when you pass and rebound.
Quote from: Holz on November 20, 2015, 12:04:12 PM
Westbrook straight out ballin this year again
28.1 points off 46.8% FG
7.8 rebounds with 2.3 offensive
10.4 assists
2.2 steals
I know it just goes to the best player on the a top seed team but easily my MVP at this stage of the year.
curry get back to me when you pass and rebound.
Don't be silly Holz. Westbrook is an athletic freak whereas Curry is more of a finesse guy - you can't compare them on their rebounding, which isn't even that important for a guard. As for the assists, I think you'll find that Curry playing with elite passers such as Draymond and to a lesser extent, Igoudala, drop his numbers down slightly. If their offense was just Curry pounding the ball for 12 seconds and then setting up a shot for a team-mate he could average like 14 assists if he wanted to.. But their ball movement means plenty of other guy's are getting involved - a reason why they're so good.
The advanced stats don't lie and Curry beats Westbrook in Player Effiency Rating, True Shooting %, Effective FG%, Win Shares, Offensive rating, defensive rating and plus-minus (In the minutes Curry is on the court, the Warriors are +164 points over their opposision, ranked 1st in the league. The minutes Westbrook is on the court, OKC are a +97). Westbrook is obviously an absolute elite player, but Curry is on another level at the moment.
Quote from: Jayman on November 20, 2015, 01:11:55 PM
Quote from: Holz on November 20, 2015, 12:04:12 PM
Westbrook straight out ballin this year again
28.1 points off 46.8% FG
7.8 rebounds with 2.3 offensive
10.4 assists
2.2 steals
I know it just goes to the best player on the a top seed team but easily my MVP at this stage of the year.
curry get back to me when you pass and rebound.
Don't be silly Holz. Westbrook is an athletic freak whereas Curry is more of a finesse guy - you can't compare them on their rebounding, which isn't even that important for a guard. As for the assists, I think you'll find that Curry playing with elite passers such as Draymond and to a lesser extent, Igoudala, drop his numbers down slightly. If their offense was just Curry pounding the ball for 12 seconds and then setting up a shot for a team-mate he could average like 14 assists if he wanted to.. But their ball movement means plenty of other guy's are getting involved - a reason why they're so good.
The advanced stats don't lie and Curry beats Westbrook in Player Effiency Rating, True Shooting %, Effective FG%, Win Shares, Offensive rating, defensive rating and plus-minus (In the minutes Curry is on the court, the Warriors are +164 points over their opposision, ranked 1st in the league. The minutes Westbrook is on the court, OKC are a +97). Westbrook is obviously an absolute elite player, but Curry is on another level at the moment.
This whole discussion reminds me of when Jukes was saying Ablett wasn't the best... :P
Quote from: elephants on November 20, 2015, 01:14:42 PM
Quote from: Jayman on November 20, 2015, 01:11:55 PM
Quote from: Holz on November 20, 2015, 12:04:12 PM
Westbrook straight out ballin this year again
28.1 points off 46.8% FG
7.8 rebounds with 2.3 offensive
10.4 assists
2.2 steals
I know it just goes to the best player on the a top seed team but easily my MVP at this stage of the year.
curry get back to me when you pass and rebound.
Don't be silly Holz. Westbrook is an athletic freak whereas Curry is more of a finesse guy - you can't compare them on their rebounding, which isn't even that important for a guard. As for the assists, I think you'll find that Curry playing with elite passers such as Draymond and to a lesser extent, Igoudala, drop his numbers down slightly. If their offense was just Curry pounding the ball for 12 seconds and then setting up a shot for a team-mate he could average like 14 assists if he wanted to.. But their ball movement means plenty of other guy's are getting involved - a reason why they're so good.
The advanced stats don't lie and Curry beats Westbrook in Player Effiency Rating, True Shooting %, Effective FG%, Win Shares, Offensive rating, defensive rating and plus-minus (In the minutes Curry is on the court, the Warriors are +164 points over their opposision, ranked 1st in the league. The minutes Westbrook is on the court, OKC are a +97). Westbrook is obviously an absolute elite player, but Curry is on another level at the moment.
This whole discussion reminds me of when Jukes was saying Ablett wasn't the best... :P
33ppg 5tppg at 52% from the field, 92% from the line, dare i say nobody has averaged those combined numbers ever
few scribes subscribing to the Clippers ending the streak today, im not as convinced
Quote from: RiOtChEsS on November 20, 2015, 01:27:08 PM
few scribes subscribing to the Clippers ending the streak today, im not as convinced
Agreed. Especially with CP and Redick a bit banged up I wouldn't be surprised if Golden State blow them out.
Quote from: Jayman on November 20, 2015, 01:34:41 PM
Quote from: RiOtChEsS on November 20, 2015, 01:27:08 PM
few scribes subscribing to the Clippers ending the streak today, im not as convinced
Agreed. Especially with CP and Redick a bit banged up I wouldn't be surprised if Golden State blow them out.
the last few Warriors games ive been wagering my whole account, today i didnt so i guess i think they're a chance
QuoteDoc Rivers says Chris Paul will play vs. Warriors tonight and JJ Redick "most likely not"
Rondo has 18 assists :o
Quote from: elephants on November 20, 2015, 01:14:42 PM
Quote from: Jayman on November 20, 2015, 01:11:55 PM
Quote from: Holz on November 20, 2015, 12:04:12 PM
Westbrook straight out ballin this year again
28.1 points off 46.8% FG
7.8 rebounds with 2.3 offensive
10.4 assists
2.2 steals
I know it just goes to the best player on the a top seed team but easily my MVP at this stage of the year.
curry get back to me when you pass and rebound.
Don't be silly Holz. Westbrook is an athletic freak whereas Curry is more of a finesse guy - you can't compare them on their rebounding, which isn't even that important for a guard. As for the assists, I think you'll find that Curry playing with elite passers such as Draymond and to a lesser extent, Igoudala, drop his numbers down slightly. If their offense was just Curry pounding the ball for 12 seconds and then setting up a shot for a team-mate he could average like 14 assists if he wanted to.. But their ball movement means plenty of other guy's are getting involved - a reason why they're so good.
The advanced stats don't lie and Curry beats Westbrook in Player Effiency Rating, True Shooting %, Effective FG%, Win Shares, Offensive rating, defensive rating and plus-minus (In the minutes Curry is on the court, the Warriors are +164 points over their opposision, ranked 1st in the league. The minutes Westbrook is on the court, OKC are a +97). Westbrook is obviously an absolute elite player, but Curry is on another level at the moment.
This whole discussion reminds me of when Jukes was saying Ablett wasn't the best... :P
that's a little harsh. Im saying curry is the second best at the moment. Thats not like Jukes.
I do rate boards from a guard its something that adds another string to your bow. 2.3 offensive is elite
I still rate westbrook higher. If i was saying who is the better solo player. when your 3rd in points, 1st in assists and top 4 in steals and up the top in rebounds for guards thats not that silly a call.
I do say westbrook is the better defender, curry obviously is the far superior shooter but I have westbrook in every other category.
you cant stop curry from hitting shots but you cant stop westbrook from scoring either, doesnt matter if he is driving, shooting or passing.
if your being conservative and giving only 2 points to an assist then he is contributing 49.7 points a game once you add in 3s then he is adding like 50-53 points a game. thats insane
Curry is doing great too with 45.5
you can make a case for either and i know im in a minority but if you had to pick one guy mine would be westbrook.
You cant lose with either...
FGM/FGA FG% FTM/FTA FT% 3PM REB AST STL BLK PTS TO
Stephen Curry 11.3/21.6 .521 6.0/6.5 .923 5.2 4.8 5.9 2.4 0.3 33.7 3.4
Westbrook 9.8/20.8 .468 6.7/8.3 .808 1.9 7.8 10.4 2.2 0.3 28.1 5.2
Steph's shooting is just so efficient it cant be matched
5 threes a game :o that is absurd
2 less turnovers a game
actually averaging more steals than Westbrook
Chris Paul 6/6 from the field with 16 points in the first
Hooooooly crap!
Quote from: elephants on November 20, 2015, 04:02:36 PM
Chris Paul 6/6 from the field with 16 points in the first
Hooooooly crap!
who is guarding him?
its now 7/7 for 18 points. with over 3 minutes to go.
Quote from: Holz on November 20, 2015, 04:07:27 PM
Quote from: elephants on November 20, 2015, 04:02:36 PM
Chris Paul 6/6 from the field with 16 points in the first
Hooooooly crap!
who is guarding him?
its now 7/7 for 18 points. with over 3 minutes to go.
whats he gonna shoot in the 4th though
Golden State pls
deandre has made 4 straight FT... dafuq ???
Quote from: RiOtChEsS on November 20, 2015, 05:53:56 PM
deandre has made 4 straight FT... dafuq ???
I would love soo much if Jordan just randomly woke up one day and turned into a 90% FT shooter.
this could be the streak breaker :-\
Warriors done :(
what a game :o
Dayum :o
to cash out or not to cash out :-\
that why he the best Holz :-X
straight up daggers from Steph 8)
Down 23 on the road vs one of the best teams in the west, and they comeback to win by 7. And the crazy thing is that that doesn't even surprise me anymore..
Quote from: Jayman on November 20, 2015, 06:23:59 PM
Down 23 on the road vs one of the best teams in the west, and they comeback to win by 7. And the crazy thing is that that doesn't even surprise me anymore..
so much this ::) ;D 8)
Apparently Dion Waiters has said he wants to go to Philly from now.
He is a bit of a moron for multiple reasons, the first is he thinks they will give him a big deal, good luck with that. The 2nd is he is a restricted FA so if Philly give him a reasonable deal OKC will match.
He is from Philly so he wants to play for his hometown team which a lot of guys have done, but he is a shooting guard that can't shoot..... He has been better this season, but he ain't going to get the money he thinks he is worth, Hinkie doesn't work like that.
This sums him up pretty well
https://cdn.streamable.com/video/mp4/98xe.mp4
Quote from: Mat0369 on November 20, 2015, 07:07:41 PM
Apparently Dion Waiters has said he wants to go to Philly from now.
He is a bit of a moron for multiple reasons, the first is he thinks they will give him a big deal, good luck with that. The 2nd is he is a restricted FA so if Philly give him a reasonable deal OKC will match.
He is from Philly so he wants to play for his hometown team which a lot of guys have done, but he is a shooting guard that can't shoot..... He has been better this season, but he ain't going to get the money he thinks he is worth, Hinkie doesn't work like that.
This sums him up pretty well
https://cdn.streamable.com/video/mp4/98xe.mp4
He's delusional, Philly are as cheap as it gets. See: http://www.si.com/nba/2015/02/19/nba-trade-deadline-kj-mcdaniels-rockets-sixers-isaiah-canaan
My thoughts exactly. Hinkie is all about numbers, he will only accept a bad contract if a team is giving him something of extremely high value in return, that ain't Waiters. They have Saric coming over, a heap of firsts and cap space coming out their ass, they aren't going to pay over market value for Dion Waiters......
(http://www.sportsmemes.net/pics/7226.jpg)
Quote from: Mat0369 on November 20, 2015, 07:36:06 PM
My thoughts exactly. Hinkie is all about numbers, he will only accept a bad contract if a team is giving him something of extremely high value in return, that ain't Waiters. They have Saric coming over, a heap of firsts and cap space coming out their ass, they aren't going to pay over market value for Dion Waiters......
So did he think paying McDaniels like $3 million a year would be a bad contract? That's like benchwarmer money considering how far the salary cap is increasing.
And cap space isn't very useful if no one good wants to play there. Especially seeing as every team in the league will have cap space this off-season: http://www.sbnation.com/nba/2015/10/16/9529643/nba-free-agency-2016-salary-cap-space-billions
Not sure I see the 'process' working out for Philly unless they can find that transcendent player in the draft - something they've tried to do each of the past two years and failed. How much time do they really have left?
@Riot, if they can score Ben Simmons I don't think any of the fans really cares what their record is. A quality wing that can play as a point forward to go with the 3 man rotation of big guys. Saric is also able to pass the ball and he will be joining the 6'ers this offseason as they can finally get him out of Europe.
Quote from: Jayman on November 20, 2015, 09:20:32 PM
So did he think paying McDaniels like $3 million a year would be a bad contract? That's like benchwarmer money considering how far the salary cap is increasing.
And cap space isn't very useful if no one good wants to play there. Especially seeing as every team in the league will have cap space this off-season: http://www.sbnation.com/nba/2015/10/16/9529643/nba-free-agency-2016-salary-cap-space-billions
Not sure I see the 'process' working out for Philly unless they can find that transcendent player in the draft - something they've tried to do each of the past two years and failed. How much time do they really have left?
The reason KJ isn't there is two fold, one he isn't worth the money he wanted (it was more then 3 mill he was requesting after half a season) and two, his mother is a headcase that was causing issues at games.
http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/nba-ball-dont-lie/k-j--mcdaniels-entertains-us-with-her-heckles--probably-embarrasses-her-rookie-son-155513326.html
While teams might be freeing up some space you are still going to have guys on bad contracts, the amount of space Philly has will result in them being a dumping ground come trade deadline again, Hinkie will pull something out of his ass and people will be thinking 'what the F just happened?'
In terms of the process they are in year 3 of a full rebuild. Year 1 was basically blowing up the team and they are about 12 months behind where they thought they would be with the Embiid setback and them not being able to buy out Saric from Europe.
They now have Jah who is showing some skills as a post threat, he has some deficiencies but is a rookie big man without a real PG feeding him. Embiid still has the most potential of his entire draft class and is rehabbing with Big Z who went through the same procedure and returned to have a successful career. They also have a shower load of lottery tickets for the Ben Simmons sweepstakes and he fits a need perfectly. There is no point loitering around and pulling a Brooklyn or some other ishy team that has always loitered around the 6-8 seed for multiple years while having no assets to rebuild with. Next year is the one to start judging them on because they should have Saric, Embiid, Noel, Jah and maybe 4 first rounders.
yeah if, this tanking is going on for ever, not equating to getting better, Celtics bottomed out and become a top 4 East contender already
Quote from: Mat0369 on November 20, 2015, 09:41:42 PM
@Riot, if they can score Ben Simmons I don't think any of the fans really cares what their record is. A quality wing that can play as a point forward to go with the 3 man rotation of big guys. Saric is also able to pass the ball and he will be joining the 6'ers this offseason as they can finally get him out of Europe.
Quote from: Jayman on November 20, 2015, 09:20:32 PM
So did he think paying McDaniels like $3 million a year would be a bad contract? That's like benchwarmer money considering how far the salary cap is increasing.
And cap space isn't very useful if no one good wants to play there. Especially seeing as every team in the league will have cap space this off-season: http://www.sbnation.com/nba/2015/10/16/9529643/nba-free-agency-2016-salary-cap-space-billions
Not sure I see the 'process' working out for Philly unless they can find that transcendent player in the draft - something they've tried to do each of the past two years and failed. How much time do they really have left?
The reason KJ isn't there is two fold, one he isn't worth the money he wanted (it was more then 3 mill he was requesting after half a season) and two, his mother is a headcase that was causing issues at games.
http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/nba-ball-dont-lie/k-j--mcdaniels-entertains-us-with-her-heckles--probably-embarrasses-her-rookie-son-155513326.html
While teams might be freeing up some space you are still going to have guys on bad contracts, the amount of space Philly has will result in them being a dumping ground come trade deadline again, Hinkie will pull something out of his ass and people will be thinking 'what the F just happened?'
In terms of the process they are in year 3 of a full rebuild. Year 1 was basically blowing up the team and they are about 12 months behind where they thought they would be with the Embiid setback and them not being able to buy out Saric from Europe.
They now have Jah who is showing some skills as a post threat, he has some deficiencies but is a rookie big man without a real PG feeding him. Embiid still has the most potential of his entire draft class and is rehabbing with Big Z who went through the same procedure and returned to have a successful career. They also have a shower load of lottery tickets for the Ben Simmons sweepstakes and he fits a need perfectly. There is no point loitering around and pulling a Brooklyn or some other ishy team that has always loitered around the 6-8 seed for multiple years while having no assets to rebuild with. Next year is the one to start judging them on because they should have Saric, Embiid, Noel, Jah and maybe 4 first rounders.
Funny that the #1 ranked prospect on DraftExpress isn't Simmons, it's another centre - will be interesting to see what Philly do there if the big man does in fact look like the best prospect.
I completely disagree that McDaniels isn't worth what he was asking. Even if he was asking for $6 mill, I'd say that would still be a reasonable contract for him - especially considering Jeremy freaking Lamb got $7mill per year and people were saying that was still a good contract. KJ is a dude who has the potential to be a functional offensive player, and can defend 4 positions on the other end. Yet Philly gave him away for nothing. Let's say they gave him a $5 million per season deal, that's only approximately 5% of the projected salary cap come 2017-18. In other words, it's benchwarmer money. But if you think the mother thing was a legitimate issue and they had to move him, then that's a different story - seems quite silly though.
I couldn't disagree more on the point that Embiid has the highest potential of his draft class. There is a dude called Andrew Wiggins who has been balling on both ends of the court this season and last season - his ceiling and floor are both way higher than Embiid, who mightn't even ever play. After the Bynum disaster, why would the Philly medical staff get any benefit of the doubt?
Oh and this
Quote from: RiOtChEsS on November 20, 2015, 11:04:37 PM
yeah if, this tanking is going on for ever, not equating to getting better, Celtics bottomed out and become a top 4 East contender already
Plus Boston still have assets too. If the season ended today, they'd have picks 3, 16, 26, 31, 37, 43, 54, 58 in the draft.
Presumably its not real tanking, there's rules against that yeah?
Anyway, GSW, flowering champs!
Quote from: RiOtChEsS on November 20, 2015, 11:04:37 PM
yeah if, this tanking is going on for ever, not equating to getting better, Celtics bottomed out and become a top 4 East contender already
They have had two seasons of bottoming. The first losing season was based on the team collapsing due to going all in on Bynum and then Jrue being injured. They have also had less in terms of starting assets to part with. Their only tradeable commodity was Jrue Holiday which they managed to turn into MCW and Noel which they have then parlayed into Noel and the Lakers pick which is top 3 protected.....
Quote from: Jayman on November 20, 2015, 11:25:35 PM
Funny that the #1 ranked prospect on DraftExpress isn't Simmons, it's another centre - will be interesting to see what Philly do there if the big man does in fact look like the best prospect.
I completely disagree that McDaniels isn't worth what he was asking. Even if he was asking for $6 mill, I'd say that would still be a reasonable contract for him - especially considering Jeremy freaking Lamb got $7mill per year and people were saying that was still a good contract. KJ is a dude who has the potential to be a functional offensive player, and can defend 4 positions on the other end. Yet Philly gave him away for nothing. Let's say they gave him a $5 million per season deal, that's only approximately 5% of the projected salary cap come 2017-18. In other words, it's benchwarmer money. But if you think the mother thing was a legitimate issue and they had to move him, then that's a different story - seems quite silly though.
I couldn't disagree more on the point that Embiid has the highest potential of his draft class. There is a dude called Andrew Wiggins who has been balling on both ends of the court this season and last season - his ceiling and floor are both way higher than Embiid, who mightn't even ever play. After the Bynum disaster, why would the Philly medical staff get any benefit of the doubt?
Oh and this
Plus Boston still have assets too. If the season ended today, they'd have picks 3, 16, 26, 31, 37, 43, 54, 58 in the draft.
The top NCAA prospect coming out of HS and into college this year is Simmons, they were talking about it the other day when they released the top player rankings and he is number 1 on the list. Word is Skal isn't overly impressing his last couple of games while Simmons has been super impressive with his passing. Ingram is the other guy that is looking like a top 2 pick and he is looking like a poor mans KD. Both fit exactly what Philly are after, the only thing that might F them over is they somehow end up with pick 3 again while the Lakers end up with 1 or 2.....
Basically the deal with KJ is he wanted X amount of money and guys that play his position tend to get ridiculously overpaid based on their talent and production levels. Rudy Gay is the prime example. Yes KJ was a good defender, but he needed to develop an offensive game (which he still can). As I mentioned he comes with the baggage of his mother, as ridiculous as it sounds, that link wasn't an isolated incident. Unless the dude has LBJ talent make him someone else's problem.
If we are talking 'potential' and that is the key word, Wiggins will be a great player, but Embiid is a generational talent. The dude is constantly compared to the Dream and when you watch him you can see he just oozes class. Wiggins floor is higher and it is probably Brickadala level, his ceiling is probably Scottie Pippen who was an excellent player, but he ain't the level of Olajuwon.
In regards to the medical department, the whole place was basically cleaned out since Doug Collins was fired and Brown/Hinkie were brought in. Bynum wasn't on Philly's end that was the Lakers lying through their teeth prior to the trade. They are not taking any risk with Embiid, while the initial diagnosis was disappointing about him needing surgery again, word is the reason he was so frustrated is because he felt 100% and didn't want the surgery because he thought he could play. They have gone a different route with this surgery and it looks positive, if it comes back in the offseason that he has had another setback I would start to worry but I guess big Z also went through 3 surgeries and came back pretty well. It can go one of two ways and the kid is a beast.
Quote from: elephants on November 20, 2015, 11:41:22 PM
Presumably its not real tanking, there's rules against that yeah?
Anyway, GSW, flowering champs!
Oh it's a pretty full on tank but they have done it smartly with draft stashes and their talented kids sitting out full seasons and not rushing back from injury.
looks smart on paper but that isnt factoring in team chemistry and the durability once playing, point blank they stink and will continue to
Embiid was a generational talent coming out of college, I agree. And if he was injury-free he should have gone no lower than pick 2. But who's to say he's even the same player anymore? He didn't play a second of his rookie year, and won't play a second of his sophomore year - it's a bit scary if you're relying on him to come in and change the franchise. Yes it was probably the right pick in terms of upside, but there's a risk in choosing injury-prone big men - and so far all Embiid has done is show us why that's true.
Wiggins' floor is waayyy higher than Igoudala man. Even right now he's almost as good as prime Iggy. The kid is a generational wing talent, on both ends of the court. Point is, if Philly had ended up with him instead of Embiid, they'd be in a much better position than they are right now - no matter Embiid's upside.
No one is saying they are going to be good next year, this year was supposed to be the season where they started to get some chemistry together much like the T-Wolves are doing this season. That has been pushed until next year because of Embiid/Saric and that is when I would expect to see improvement in the group as a collective. Once they get the core of young guys they can then look at adding FA's or trading some of these assets for a superstar the same way Hinkie orchestrated the Harden trade.
Quote from: Mat0369 on November 21, 2015, 12:32:55 AM
No one is saying they are going to be good next year, this year was supposed to be the season where they started to get some chemistry together much like the T-Wolves are doing this season. That has been pushed until next year because of Embiid/Saric and that is when I would expect to see improvement in the group as a collective. Once they get the core of young guys they can then look at adding FA's or trading some of these assets for a superstar the same way Hinkie orchestrated the Harden trade.
You say adding FA's, but who is actually going to want to go there? The time for that would have been this past off-season where having room for a max salary was rare. In a year or two when Philly will be wanting to sign FAs, there'll be team's who can offer just as much money, and offer a better basketball environment. I also think the cheap way that they treat their second round picks, could put some players off of wanting to go there - if they aren't already turned off by all the losing.
What I can't work out is why Philly didn't come out and offer a max to a guy like Jimmy Butler on day 1 of free agency? That was the time to sign guys on contracts that will end up being undervalued, yet they've let that pass and now will be paying full price - and that's if they somehow convince someone to want to go there in the first place.
The trade route is their most likely path to success now if they don't score a generational talent in the draft. But Embiid would hold little trade value around the league now, and Saric I'd be surprised if team's thought of him as a great asset. So what's their trade package they'll be dangling out there in search for a disgruntled superstar? Okafor/Noel + the Lakers pick? It's a nice package, but I struggle to see which team's would actually want to do something like that. Cousins is the obvious guy to look at, but if they wanted to trade him, they'd have done it by now. What other stars realistically have a chance of becoming available? Point is, I think the James Harden trade is one in a million - the idiotic logic behind OKC doing that isn't likely to be replicated anytime soon. You then look at the other 'stars' who have been moved in trades.. Off the top of my head.. Dwight, Melo, D-Will and CP3 are the obvious ones. How many of them turned out well? Probably only CP3..
Philly at this point are just crossing their fingers and hoping something falls into their laps, meanwhile team's that started to rebuild at the same time as they did are actually out there winning games and building themselves into an attractive destination. Time will tell what works I guess, but it's an enjoyable debate in the mean-time as it's a strategy which we haven't really seen in the NBA before.
get this...
since the start of last season, the Warriors have gone 3-3 in games where they have trailed by 20 or more, 50%,
for perspective...
the rest of the league in games where they have trailed by 20 at any point are 13 wins and 486 losses :o
Quote from: Jayman on November 21, 2015, 12:58:56 AM
You say adding FA's, but who is actually going to want to go there? The time for that would have been this past off-season where having room for a max salary was rare. In a year or two when Philly will be wanting to sign FAs, there'll be team's who can offer just as much money, and offer a better basketball environment. I also think the cheap way that they treat their second round picks, could put some players off of wanting to go there - if they aren't already turned off by all the losing.
What I can't work out is why Philly didn't come out and offer a max to a guy like Jimmy Butler on day 1 of free agency? That was the time to sign guys on contracts that will end up being undervalued, yet they've let that pass and now will be paying full price - and that's if they somehow convince someone to want to go there in the first place.
The trade route is their most likely path to success now if they don't score a generational talent in the draft. But Embiid would hold little trade value around the league now, and Saric I'd be surprised if team's thought of him as a great asset. So what's their trade package they'll be dangling out there in search for a disgruntled superstar? Okafor/Noel + the Lakers pick? It's a nice package, but I struggle to see which team's would actually want to do something like that. Cousins is the obvious guy to look at, but if they wanted to trade him, they'd have done it by now. What other stars realistically have a chance of becoming available? Point is, I think the James Harden trade is one in a million - the idiotic logic behind OKC doing that isn't likely to be replicated anytime soon. You then look at the other 'stars' who have been moved in trades.. Off the top of my head.. Dwight, Melo, D-Will and CP3 are the obvious ones. How many of them turned out well? Probably only CP3..
Philly at this point are just crossing their fingers and hoping something falls into their laps, meanwhile team's that started to rebuild at the same time as they did are actually out there winning games and building themselves into an attractive destination. Time will tell what works I guess, but it's an enjoyable debate in the mean-time as it's a strategy which we haven't really seen in the NBA before.
Looking at the FA class this year, the only guys worth a damn right now are KD, Beal and maybe DeRozan. KD is either staying in OKC or he is going home and playing for Washington. The Wiz look to have a ton of space this offseason, so if I was to bet I would say they keep Beal and sign KD. 2017 the FA class is amazing. There are a lot of C's and PF's that look to be available which isn't a need, but Philly should be able to grab a need. This brings me to my next point
Look at Minnesota right now, they had struggled to get a second fiddle for Love for how long? Right now they are filled with young talent and an emerging group. The first rule is superstars attract superstars, you need to have a group of guys that will attract a big fish. In Minny the weather is crappy, it's a small market and they have been traditionally poor team since KG left. However they might be an attractive destination for someone like Russell Westbrook when his contract expires, especially if KD is gone and the notoriously cheap Thunder don't bring him in any help. So the idea for Philly is to build this young core and have Simmons/Ingram and Embiid/Jah/Noel attract a PG/SG to come play with them. PG is the most replaceable position unless you have someone like Steph or Westbrook (who are both FA's in 2017). Steph stays but it wouldn't surprise me if Russ goes either back to LA or somewhere like Minny. Then the 2nd tier guys like Teague and Lowry become available for these sort of teams and the following year they still have cap space and can bring in a player to fill their deficiencies.
In regards to Butler, I don't think it was going to matter, I don't think he was leaving Chicago and they were going to match whatever offer was put to him, same deal with someone like Draymond, the Warriors were always matching. I was surprised they didn't offer him a deal, but maybe they figured it was just going to be a waste of time so Hinkie started working on the deal with the Kings where they have pick swaps and first round picks coming to them.
This bit will involve Harden and the way they 'treated their second round picks'. You can say the Harden deal was a one off, but there were some people at the time that actually argued OKC won the deal (not many but I remember reading it) and OKC were too cheap to pay Harden while Hinkie and the Rockets were not. So this brings me to KJ, Hinkie is a numbers guy, he has his own formula which he grades players in an almost moneyball type strategy, he will break the bank for a particular type of guy like Harden, but he will stand his ground for someone like KJ. Also don't give me a woe is me story with KJ, they offered him a multi year deal which was reasonable but he chose to take the 1 year contract and bet on himself. Good for him, you perform and you get a quicker pay rise, however in Hinkie's mind he wasn't worth what he was asking based on his formula.
Of the guys they are likely to trade, it will be either Jah or Noel, Saric they are really high on (so is the rest of the league with all the GM's rating him the best European prospect avaialble), it's why they tried to get him out now to play and Embiid they are investing far to much in to give up on him already. I think they keep the 3 man rotation as a safety, it's not exactly something that most teams are doing since they are going the small ball route, but Embiid can actually stretch the floor which will help out Jah and Noel. They need some floor spacers (Stauskas is a low risk option which they are taking a shot on) to help out down the big guys. I was looking at an article on their floor spacing and how poor it has been due not having the shooters and a great PG to execute the pick and roll. JaKarr Sampson has actually been critical to their floor spacing when you read the article :o
Brown has been trying to get his most talented players on the court right now and to see how it meshes, however McConnell and the bigs lack chemistry and production offensively. From Browns perpective, do you try to develop a different set of rotations around the idea of splitting up Okafor and Noel as much as possible, or do you try to work this out on the court now in a lost year anyway. If Embiid is back next year, the problem continues, or even becomes more complicated. So basically he is trying to develop these young guys offensively, in particular Noel who came into the league with a questionable offensive game.
You can read the article on the floor spacing here (http://www.libertyballers.com/2015/11/19/9760942/analyzing-the-sixers-offensive-structure) if you're interested.
In terms of the rebuild, yeah you are going to have teams in the east passing the 6'ers, but the idea is not to become one of those 4-6 seeds in a weak conference where you never have a realistic shot in contending. That is where they were prior to the Bynum trade, it is basketball purgatory. To win in the league you need at least one superstar. I think the team that is going to be closest to cementing themselves as a top team in the East for a sustained period will be Washington. Having said that, it will depend on if they land KD or not and Wall's rookie season was 2010? Winning now is all well and good, but the whole process is about long term sustained success, not bouncing around like a pinball while getting bounced out in the first or second round every season.
You make some good points Mat, i still do not see anyone wanting to sign in Philly except for a second tier free agent that believes they are a tier one talent and need more shots, Minnesota do have some talent but again who will want to go there, a second tier guy that wants more shots.
Anthony Davis is the best talent in the league, who are the Pelicans adding in FA?
If hypothetically i was KD and aligning myself with the best possible talent was my priority then who better? their games compliment each other and still allow for a medium to high use PG.
That it is not what will happen, i don't even think he will go to Washington which is a pretty good fit in my opinion, throw a bunch of low usage big bodies that defend, rebound and finish at the rim and they are an extremely dynamic team.
I dont think he stays in OKC either, i think he will go to the city that best suits the life he wants to live...
The Davis one is a good point, he was the guy I was thinking about in terms of guys that didn't have any big FA sign recently, however, they were able to keep Gordon who wanted out and was considered to be a top tier SG at the time they made the deal and bring in Jrue via the trade and he was an All-Star when they brought him in. However Gordon isn't what he was made out to be and Jrue can't stay healthy so it isn't a top attraction right now.
If you bring in the right second tier type of guy like a Kyle Lowry and have another good season where your group continues to improve, you then have the chance to bring in some other vets and maybe that elusive superstar PF or wing you need to take make you a true contender.
With Durant, I only see him staying in one of two places, he either signs for the max in OKC or he signs for the max in Washington. He has dropped potential hints about going home but he has also said he loves OKC and was just inducted into their hall of fame. He is a quiet kind of guy, he is not the type to go to somewhere like LA or NY just for the cash when there will be other factors in his decision.
Meanwhile I have just turned on the Pelicans game and it looks like Ryan Anderson is getting hot. 14 points and 4/5 from outside
Yeah the Peli's win :o
Spurs and OKC... I'm retiring from NBA betting haha
Quote from: elephants on November 21, 2015, 03:21:26 PM
Spurs and OKC... I'm retiring from NBA betting haha
I'll join ya... :'(
Warriors going for the record Vs Denver
If they're paying anything over 1.10 I'm all over them with my entire account!
Watched the last quarter today, they're just so good on O and D
yeah collectively they are the definition of clutch at the moment
Next 14 games for GSW are against lowly teams, this streak could go a while, but I think a team like Phoenix or Boston will upset them. Game 15 is against the Cavs, the toughest game in that 15 game stretch!
Quote from: jvalles69 on November 22, 2015, 02:42:14 PM
Next 14 games for GSW are against lowly teams, this streak could go a while, but I think a team like Phoenix or Boston will upset them. Game 15 is against the Cavs, the toughest game in that 15 game stretch!
i think the denver game is the most dangerous atm, gonna be a lot of hype leading up
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Quote from: jvalles69 on November 22, 2015, 02:42:14 PM
Next 14 games for GSW are against lowly teams, this streak could go a while, but I think a team like Phoenix or Boston will upset them. Game 15 is against the Cavs, the toughest game in that 15 game stretch!
i think the denver game is the most dangerous atm, gonna be a lot of hype leading up
Nah I think they might lose @ Utah
Philly beating Miami by 9 with 9 minutes to go
The Porzingod is at it again.
24 points, 14 boards and 7 blocks :o :o :o
haha didnt buy the 76ers could get it done, phone bet at 5/1 on the Heat... Bam 8)
I think it's going under the radar how awesome the Spurs are... Again...
Quote from: Jayman on November 23, 2015, 01:03:08 AM
I think it's going under the radar how awesome the Spurs are... Again...
they looked shabby against the Pelicans, that said it aint business time yet
http://espn.go.com/blog/truehoop/post/_/id/73710/the-big-number-nowhere-near-rudy-gobert
super psyched to own this guy in dynasty
Quote from: RiOtChEsS on November 23, 2015, 01:09:50 AM
Quote from: Jayman on November 23, 2015, 01:03:08 AM
I think it's going under the radar how awesome the Spurs are... Again...
they looked shabby against the Pelicans, that said it aint business time yet
People thought Aldridge/Duncan could take some time to fit together, and that Tony isn't what he used to be.. They're on pace to go 63-19 :-X
Was actually having this debate the other day with a friend.. Who has been the best in the era since MJ retired as a Bull? And I almost instantly said Duncan.. Curious to see if I'm in the minority or not. Could certainly make the argument that Shaq or LBJ were so dominant at their peaks, that it's one of those two, but 18 elite years of Duncan is hard to pass up.
Quote from: Jayman on November 23, 2015, 01:31:22 AM
Quote from: RiOtChEsS on November 23, 2015, 01:09:50 AM
Quote from: Jayman on November 23, 2015, 01:03:08 AM
I think it's going under the radar how awesome the Spurs are... Again...
they looked shabby against the Pelicans, that said it aint business time yet
People thought Aldridge/Duncan could take some time to fit together, and that Tony isn't what he used to be.. They're on pace to go 63-19 :-X
Was actually having this debate the other day with a friend.. Who has been the best in the era since MJ retired as a Bull? And I almost instantly said Duncan.. Curious to see if I'm in the minority or not. Could certainly make the argument that Shaq or LBJ were so dominant at their peaks, that it's one of those two, but 18 elite years of Duncan is hard to pass up.
mmm to hard to say, Duncan has been great and the way he carries himself commands so much respect...
Wow Boston wow...
Quote from: elephants on November 23, 2015, 11:55:32 AM
Wow Boston wow...
Marcus Smart being out for a couple of weeks is really going to hurt us :(
Quote from: Jayman on November 23, 2015, 12:03:23 PM
Quote from: elephants on November 23, 2015, 11:55:32 AM
Wow Boston wow...
Marcus Smart being out for a couple of weeks is really going to hurt us :(
Don't get me wrong, I'm stoked Brooklyn are winning but boy oh boy wowee haha
Boston are coming! Only 8 down with a quarter to go! Chucked a 5er on them at 5-1... Pay for my lunch pls Celtics :p
How do we lose to the flowering Nets :(
Quote from: Jayman on November 23, 2015, 01:42:37 PM
How do we lose to the flowering Nets :(
Oi, Brooklyn are an elite organisation :P
Quote from: elephants on November 21, 2015, 06:21:25 PM
If they're paying anything over 1.10 I'm all over them with my entire account!
Watched the last quarter today, they're just so good on O and D
$1.12 today did you roll the dice?
Quote from: RiOtChEsS on November 23, 2015, 03:26:28 PM
Quote from: elephants on November 21, 2015, 06:21:25 PM
If they're paying anything over 1.10 I'm all over them with my entire account!
Watched the last quarter today, they're just so good on O and D
$1.12 today did you roll the dice?
Sure did! But Boston ensured I lost all that I could've won :p
Quote from: elephants on November 23, 2015, 03:31:32 PM
Quote from: RiOtChEsS on November 23, 2015, 03:26:28 PM
Quote from: elephants on November 21, 2015, 06:21:25 PM
If they're paying anything over 1.10 I'm all over them with my entire account!
Watched the last quarter today, they're just so good on O and D
$1.12 today did you roll the dice?
Sure did! But Boston ensured I lost all that I could've won :p
oh bugger, i just went straight up on the warriors ;)
Quote from: RiOtChEsS on November 23, 2015, 03:33:52 PM
Quote from: elephants on November 23, 2015, 03:31:32 PM
Quote from: RiOtChEsS on November 23, 2015, 03:26:28 PM
Quote from: elephants on November 21, 2015, 06:21:25 PM
If they're paying anything over 1.10 I'm all over them with my entire account!
Watched the last quarter today, they're just so good on O and D
$1.12 today did you roll the dice?
Sure did! But Boston ensured I lost all that I could've won :p
oh bugger, i just went straight up on the warriors ;)
haha well done mate, I was all set with my multi - Warriors, Boston, Blazers and Thunder paying 5-1... One of the 'safer legs was the one that killed it :'(
Quote from: elephants on November 23, 2015, 03:49:27 PM
Quote from: RiOtChEsS on November 23, 2015, 03:33:52 PM
Quote from: elephants on November 23, 2015, 03:31:32 PM
Quote from: RiOtChEsS on November 23, 2015, 03:26:28 PM
Quote from: elephants on November 21, 2015, 06:21:25 PM
If they're paying anything over 1.10 I'm all over them with my entire account!
Watched the last quarter today, they're just so good on O and D
$1.12 today did you roll the dice?
Sure did! But Boston ensured I lost all that I could've won :p
oh bugger, i just went straight up on the warriors ;)
haha well done mate, I was all set with my multi - Warriors, Boston, Blazers and Thunder paying 5-1... One of the 'safer legs was the one that killed it :'(
the nets have com alive since their first win
http://espn.go.com/blog/statsinfo/post/_/id/111805/bulls-path-to-72-was-more-impressive-than-warriors-run
Rondo up to 15 assists and the 3rd quarter isnt finished yet. Kings gone 29-8 so far in the 3rd quarter to blow out to a big lead against the Hornets
Quote from: valkorum on November 24, 2015, 01:42:03 PM
Rondo up to 15 assists and the 3rd quarter isnt finished yet. Kings gone 29-8 so far in the 3rd quarter to blow out to a big lead against the Hornets
the guy is still elite. super pick up by the kings
Up to 18 assists. 1 more and he will hold the record for most assists in a game by a King (beating Jason Williams)
KAT v Okafur game is interesting
Towns in foul trouble only 4 points 2 rebounds
Okafur looking good 21 points 10 rebounds 2 blocks over 3 quarters.
they might post their first win.
Still say if they get Simmons and get Saric back from Europe they are looking good. Abit top heavy and do need to work on their back court
Damn it - we went in to our blackhole and lost the game 122-127
Rondo with 20 assists though
Quote from: Holz on November 24, 2015, 02:55:17 PM
KAT v Okafur game is interesting
Towns in foul trouble only 4 points 2 rebounds
Okafur looking good 21 points 10 rebounds 2 blocks over 3 quarters.
they might post their first win.
Still say if they get Simmons and get Saric back from Europe they are looking good. Abit top heavy and do need to work on their back court
I'll make a call. For as long as KAT and Okafor are in the league, KAT will be far better than Okafor every single year. If Philly had got KAT, I'd say their rebuild has been a success - but they didn't, and still don't have a franchise player.
they cant close out games, that the problem, up 10 against us with 6 to play and we win by 7
Quote from: valkorum on November 24, 2015, 02:00:06 PM
Up to 18 assists. 1 more and he will hold the record for most assists in a game by a King (beating Jason Williams)
Quality over quantity, every one of J-Will's assists is better than a Rondo assist. Haven't watched any Kings games, but when he played for Boston he was lucky he had so many good shooters around him. Standard Rondo assist was a 1m bounce pass to his left or right to KG, PP or Ray. Great player and facilitator, but he'll never be remembered like J-Will.
Quote from: Jayman on November 24, 2015, 03:02:56 PM
Quote from: Holz on November 24, 2015, 02:55:17 PM
KAT v Okafur game is interesting
Towns in foul trouble only 4 points 2 rebounds
Okafur looking good 21 points 10 rebounds 2 blocks over 3 quarters.
they might post their first win.
Still say if they get Simmons and get Saric back from Europe they are looking good. Abit top heavy and do need to work on their back court
I'll make a call. For as long as KAT and Okafor are in the league, KAT will be far better than Okafor every single year. If Philly had got KAT, I'd say their rebuild has been a success - but they didn't, and still don't have a franchise player.
as good as KAT is ill take that call. Okafor is really good too.
love the Wolves. Wiggins is a jet and Wiggins KAT a super combo.
Okafur needs a decent pass first PG. the thing that stops him will be philly.
Quote from: jvalles69 on November 24, 2015, 03:13:14 PM
Quote from: valkorum on November 24, 2015, 02:00:06 PM
Up to 18 assists. 1 more and he will hold the record for most assists in a game by a King (beating Jason Williams)
Quality over quantity, every one of J-Will's assists is better than a Rondo assist. Haven't watched any Kings games, but when he played for Boston he was lucky he had so many good shooters around him. Standard Rondo assist was a 1m bounce pass to his left or right to KG, PP or Ray. Great player and facilitator, but he'll never be remembered like J-Will.
J-Will has MUCH better handles than Rondo and some of his passes were INSANE!
Rondo doesnt do flash very often, just meticulous and get the job done. Which is kind of what we need right now
Quote from: valkorum on November 24, 2015, 06:50:03 PM
Quote from: jvalles69 on November 24, 2015, 03:13:14 PM
Quote from: valkorum on November 24, 2015, 02:00:06 PM
Up to 18 assists. 1 more and he will hold the record for most assists in a game by a King (beating Jason Williams)
Quality over quantity, every one of J-Will's assists is better than a Rondo assist. Haven't watched any Kings games, but when he played for Boston he was lucky he had so many good shooters around him. Standard Rondo assist was a 1m bounce pass to his left or right to KG, PP or Ray. Great player and facilitator, but he'll never be remembered like J-Will.
J-Will has MUCH better handles than Rondo and some of his passes were INSANE!
Rondo doesnt do flash very often, just meticulous and get the job done. Which is kind of what we need right now
the behind the back elbow pass is the greatest thing I have EVER seen on a basketball court! A mate pulled it off in a social league game once, but the guy missed the layup, devestated!
Quote from: jvalles69 on November 24, 2015, 08:02:51 PM
the behind the back elbow pass is the greatest thing I have EVER seen on a basketball court! A mate pulled it off in a social league game once, but the guy missed the layup, devestated!
So did the guy who J-Will passed it to - that being said, he was fouled.
Chicago haven't beaten Portland in Portland since 2007 :o
We flowering suck without Marcus >:(
Sixers looking like they might pick up a win against Boston.
Okafor had an off night been inefficient still 16 points 9 rebounds 4 blocks aint bad with 5 minutes to go.
Geez, given their recent form the Pistons went bananas on the Heat :s
Super stoked that Brooklyn are competitive against OKC in OKC.
Quote from: Holz on November 26, 2015, 02:37:15 PM
Sixers looking like they might pick up a win against Boston.
Okafor had an off night been inefficient still 16 points 9 rebounds 4 blocks aint bad with 5 minutes to go.
calling it, i have a few teams i like but now im a Sixers fan (to go along with Cavs and somewhat Clippers
Wow, Boston get the job done!
Hahah, Philly blow another late lead :P
Got a way with one there boys
Quote from: jvalles69 on November 26, 2015, 02:56:46 PM
Quote from: Holz on November 26, 2015, 02:37:15 PM
Sixers looking like they might pick up a win against Boston.
Okafor had an off night been inefficient still 16 points 9 rebounds 4 blocks aint bad with 5 minutes to go.
calling it, i have a few teams i like but now im a Sixers fan (to go along with Cavs and somewhat Clippers
Wow, Boston get the job done!
one step closer to the number 1 pick.
go Tankedalphia go.
Kyle Lowry is a beast.
Quote from: Holz on November 26, 2015, 02:37:15 PM
Sixers looking like they might pick up a win against Boston.
Okafor had an off night been inefficient still 16 points 9 rebounds 4 blocks aint bad with 5 minutes to go.
I saw something yesterday that said that Jah performs better offensively when Noel isn't on the court. The unfortunate thing for Nerlens is he has no offensive game and that was his knock coming into the league. They can't space the floor with both Noel and Okafor on the court and it stuffs the inside game. Who would have thought that they would be missing Ish Smith? He had a really good rapport with Noel last season and is a good facilitator. Kendall Marshall is injured at the moment but one thing he can do is pass, it will be interesting to see how they function when he is in there. Wroten comes back in a couple weeks as well, he provides a spark although he also does some really stupid ish.
Quote from: Mat0369 on November 26, 2015, 03:05:00 PM
Kyle Lowry is a beast.
Quote from: Holz on November 26, 2015, 02:37:15 PM
Sixers looking like they might pick up a win against Boston.
Okafor had an off night been inefficient still 16 points 9 rebounds 4 blocks aint bad with 5 minutes to go.
I saw something yesterday that said that Jah performs better offensively when Noel isn't on the court. The unfortunate thing for Nerlens is he has no offensive game and that was his knock coming into the league. They can't space the floor with both Noel and Okafor on the court and it stuffs the inside game. Who would have thought that they would be missing Ish Smith? He had a really good rapport with Noel last season and is a good facilitator. Kendall Marshall is injured at the moment but one thing he can do is pass, it will be interesting to see how they function when he is in there. Wroten comes back in a couple weeks as well, he provides a spark although he also does some really stupid ish.
Noel is the guy I reckon they move on. Okafor is their franchise player at the moment.
move on Noel for a SG/SF. Hopefully get Simmons then just cross your fingers and hope that Embiid can get healthy.
Okafor Embiid I can see working.
Quote from: Holz on November 26, 2015, 03:33:40 PM
Noel is the guy I reckon they move on. Okafor is their franchise player at the moment.
move on Noel for a SG/SF. Hopefully get Simmons then just cross your fingers and hope that Embiid can get healthy.
Okafor Embiid I can see working.
Only issue they have there is they won't be able to guard smaller lineups since Oakfor and Embiid don't have the speed. Offensively Embiid can stretch the floor so they won't have issues there. They need a Kyle Lowry type PG that can slash and facilitate but also has a respectable 3 ball. It will be interesting to see what pieces they add in the draft this year and how this young group continues to progress.
“This is the real story behind it. Ben Simmons is the son of someone I coached for four years,†Brown said. “I was his dad’s assistant coach when I was with the Melbourne Tigers and his mom was the head cheerleader and then here comes Ben Simmons.â€
Simmons’ dad, Dave, played 13 years of pro ball in Australia where he teamed up with Brown. While with the Tigers, who retired his number, Simmons played alongside Seton Hall standout and former NBA player, Andrew Gaze.
Needless to say, Brown remembers the elder Simmons’ game very well.
“David Simmons was from Harlem, New York. He could have been a linebacker, he could have been a prize fighter,†Brown said after Tuesday’s practice. “He was a basketball player more out of athleticism and girth than he was out of finesse and skill. He was a tough, tough 6-8 and hard like an Anthony Mason-type player.â€
Ben Simmons isn’t that bruising type of player.
“His son is finesse and a 3, 1, 4,†Brown said. “Really different.â€
Different from his father, but not so different from the style of play from other NBA players with Australian roots. Along with Simmons, Brown also coached the father of Utah’s Dante Exum and Kyrie Irving’s father when he played pro ball in Australia as well.
http://www.csnphilly.com/basketball-philadelphia-76ers/brett-browns-australian-connection-lsu-phenom-ben-simmons
Here are the highlights for Okafor in the Minny game
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w1AvNpo411Q
There is also a rumor that the Lakers are offering up Russell and to remove the restrictions on their pick for this year for Jah. So they get the Lakers unrestricted first and Russell for Jah instead of it being top 3 protected.
And then there is this as well
@DerekBodnerNBA: Really bad loss by Milwaukee, at home, against a Sacramento team without Cousins. MCW with 4 points on 0-7 shooting, -21.
Okafor and Embiid would not be a good pairing. They need Noel for his defense.
Jah has actually been not too bad on D so far. It was one of his weaknesses coming out of college along with his rebounding but he has been solid, especially for a rookie. Embiid showed in college he had good defensive fundamentals. The issue regardless will be any of them trying to defend smaller opponents on the perimeter as they don't have the speed when playing the 4. Those issues will exist with or without Noel.
Quote from: Mat0369 on November 26, 2015, 10:36:11 PM
Jah has actually been not too bad on D so far. It was one of his weaknesses coming out of college along with his rebounding but he has been solid, especially for a rookie. Embiid showed in college he had good defensive fundamentals. The issue regardless will be any of them trying to defend smaller opponents on the perimeter as they don't have the speed when playing the 4. Those issues will exist with or without Noel.
Disagree, I think Okafor has been absolutely horrendous on D so far. You make a good point in the defending of small lineups. Playing that big vs a team who can put 5 shooters on the floor at once is just a recipe for distaster.
So ESPY reporting that Okafor was involved in a street fight last night. Wonderful :p
Quote from: elephants on November 27, 2015, 10:48:09 AM
So ESPY reporting that Okafor was involved in a street fight last night. Wonderful :p
Apparently he and another 76ers player were getting heckled in Boston by someone all night and when they were leaving they followed them out and kept doing it, started getting a bit close to the other 76ers player so Okafor KO'd him stating something along the lines of the situation was escalating and he felt he had to do something to protect himself and his teammate.
Quote from: jvalles69 on November 27, 2015, 04:05:42 PM
Quote from: elephants on November 27, 2015, 10:48:09 AM
So ESPY reporting that Okafor was involved in a street fight last night. Wonderful :p
Apparently he and another 76ers player were getting heckled in Boston by someone all night and when they were leaving they followed them out and kept doing it, started getting a bit close to the other 76ers player so Okafor KO'd him stating something along the lines of the situation was escalating and he felt he had to do something to protect himself and his teammate.
Street fight is a bit of an exaggeration then :P Fair game though, I'd probably do the same :P
Found a clip, looks all pretty exciting haha.
http://www.tmz.com/2015/11/26/jahlil-okafor-street-fight-kos-man-in-boston-video/
Just saying, I probably wouldn't pick I fight with an angry dude thats 6'11 lol
Quote from: elephants on November 27, 2015, 04:41:39 PM
Street fight is a bit of an exaggeration then :P Fair game though, I'd probably do the same :P
Found a clip, looks all pretty exciting haha.
http://www.tmz.com/2015/11/26/jahlil-okafor-street-fight-kos-man-in-boston-video/
Just saying, I probably wouldn't pick I fight with an angry dude thats 6'11 lol
This is apparently one of the reasons he reacted the way he did
http://mobile.philly.com/beta?wss=/philly/sports&id=356308201
Seems like Washington can't really match it with Boston, second massive blow out this year. Hopefully for us we get them in the first round :)
Good too see my Pacers back!
Kawhi Leonard is just :-* :-*
Philly's +10.5 line was crazy value given how shower Houston have been this year!
What we all expected.. Kobe has announced he's retiring at the end of the season.
Fantastic career and I hope this last year doesn't damage his legacy too much
Quote from: Jayman on November 30, 2015, 12:23:59 PM
What we all expected.. Kobe has announced he's retiring at the end of the season.
Fantastic career and I hope this last year doesn't damage his legacy too much
great for the lakers.
will be interesting to see how they rise up now.
would have liked them to go Okafor not Russell.
I suspect Jim Buss will hold them back though.
DeAndre Jordan on track for a 30 rebound game haha
Quote from: elephants on December 01, 2015, 04:55:51 PM
DeAndre Jordan on track for a 30 rebound game haha
how do you get 7 offensive rebounds and 12 free throws and only 10 points
Quote from: Holz on December 01, 2015, 05:19:05 PM
Quote from: elephants on December 01, 2015, 04:55:51 PM
DeAndre Jordan on track for a 30 rebound game haha
how do you get 7 offensive rebounds and 12 free throws and only 10 points
Answer: I shoot a better free throw than him.
Cousins was back and the Kings defeated Mavs - big 4th quarter to seal the win.
Forget Shaq, forget Kobe, even forget LeBron! That superfreak Curry the best since Jordan :o
Curried Jordan.....A restaurant favorite 8)
Quote from: tbagrocks on December 01, 2015, 07:39:11 PM
Forget Shaq, forget Kobe, even forget LeBron! That superfreak Curry the best since Jordan :o
Im not the biggest Kobe fan but Curry is not even close to these guys yet, let alone Jordan.
The guy has one highly suspect championship.
Shaq Kobe Lebron DUNCAN
are the best 4 since Jordan.
would have guys like Durrant before i even start talking about Curry. He is probably now in the top 10 since Jordan conversation though ill give him that.
Quote from: Holz on December 01, 2015, 10:40:46 PM
Im not the biggest Kobe fan but Curry is not even close to these guys yet, let alone Jordan.
The guy has one highly suspect championship.
Shaq Kobe Lebron DUNCAN
are the best 4 since Jordan.
would have guys like Durrant before i even start talking about Curry. He is probably now in the top 10 since Jordan conversation though ill give him that.
So the suspect Championship team now holds the greatest ever win streak to open an NBA season.
They are on pace to win 70 games which has only been done once in the history of the NBA and this is after winning a championship the previous season and winning 67 games.
They were also putting up numbers last year that only the GOAT teams have in the past including +- differential where the only teams on that list that didn't win a championship lost to another team on that list.
Quote from: Mat0369 on December 02, 2015, 12:36:53 AM
Quote from: Holz on December 01, 2015, 10:40:46 PM
Im not the biggest Kobe fan but Curry is not even close to these guys yet, let alone Jordan.
The guy has one highly suspect championship.
Shaq Kobe Lebron DUNCAN
are the best 4 since Jordan.
would have guys like Durrant before i even start talking about Curry. He is probably now in the top 10 since Jordan conversation though ill give him that.
So the suspect Championship team now holds the greatest ever win streak to open an NBA season.
They are on pace to win 70 games which has only been done once in the history of the NBA and this is after winning a championship the previous season and winning 67 games.
They were also putting up numbers last year that only the GOAT teams have in the past including +- differential where the only teams on that list that didn't win a championship lost to another team on that list.
I didnt know the playoffs had started yet?
regular season means nothing to the real champions, Curry is proving himself
guys like Duncan, James have done it so the season hasnt even started yet. I dont care if they go 82-0 its just how they go in playoffs.
They won the playoffs last year Holz...
Quote from: Jayman on December 02, 2015, 10:32:12 AM
They won the playoffs last year Holz...
versus who though
young Pelicans with injured point guard
memph who are good but injured point guard
Houston who have question marks of there own and injured point guard
Cavs with injured point guard and second all star.
the call was Curry is better then James Shaq Kobe he isnt even close.
Warriors have beaten nobody in the playoffs yet. So have proven nothing.
lets see what happens if they face a healthy Spurs or OKC in the playoffs.
here is an interesting question.
7 game series. Healthy Spurs v Warriors or Healthy OKC v Warriors who do you pick?
Warriors would beat healthy Spurs in 7, and a healthy OKC in 6 imo.
Part of the reason they stay so healthy is because they have lots of depth so can play a heap of guys, and also that they're up by 20 going into most fourth quarters so they can just rest their stars. It's not their fault...
Quote from: Jayman on December 02, 2015, 12:31:26 PM
Warriors would beat healthy Spurs in 7, and a healthy OKC in 6 imo.
Part of the reason they stay so healthy is because they have lots of depth so can play a heap of guys, and also that they're up by 20 going into most fourth quarters so they can just rest their stars. It's not their fault...
its not their fault that everyone fell over in front of them. But thats why its a suspect championship. Havent beaten anyone in a playoff game yet who has been healthy since first round 2013 and that was the Nuggets.
This is what the warriors are for now
(http://griffitharchive.griffith.edu.au/SiteAssets/images/pages/stephen-bradbury-lrg.jpg)
prove me wrong Warriors.
for the record I would have spurs in 6 and OKC in 7.
Wow Kobe
4/17 3 pointers.
doesn't know when to not shoot. When your cold just keep on throwing it up.
Russel Aint much better 1/5 3 pointers.
Philly couldnt tank hard enough.
on that note like Covington i think they found there SF. 3.5 SPG is huge. leads the league by 1 SPG.
Quote from: Holz on December 02, 2015, 03:40:49 PM
Wow Kobe
4/17 3 pointers.
and he was 3/4 in the first minute of the game :o
Quote from: Ricochet on December 02, 2015, 03:46:40 PM
Quote from: Holz on December 02, 2015, 03:40:49 PM
Wow Kobe
4/17 3 pointers.
and he was 3/4 in the first minute of the game :o
wow didn't know that, makes it even worse.
how do you shoot 1/13
Quote from: Holz on December 02, 2015, 12:36:31 PM
Quote from: Jayman on December 02, 2015, 12:31:26 PM
Warriors would beat healthy Spurs in 7, and a healthy OKC in 6 imo.
Part of the reason they stay so healthy is because they have lots of depth so can play a heap of guys, and also that they're up by 20 going into most fourth quarters so they can just rest their stars. It's not their fault...
its not their fault that everyone fell over in front of them. But thats why its a suspect championship. Havent beaten anyone in a playoff game yet who has been healthy since first round 2013 and that was the Nuggets.
This is what the warriors are for now
(http://griffitharchive.griffith.edu.au/SiteAssets/images/pages/stephen-bradbury-lrg.jpg)
prove me wrong Warriors.
for the record I would have spurs in 6 and OKC in 7.
Agree with Holz in regards Curry shouldn't be mentioner (yet) in the same sentence as those guys. He was written off at one stage with his terrible ankles, but all credit to him, the guy is a shooting marvel and makes it look so easy. Agree that they had one of the easiest road to the finals in recent memory, but that's not their fault…if they had come up against a healthy Clippers instead of Houston, I think Clips win in 7. Spurs have a bit to do as I think they are struggling to to consistently work Aldridge in the mix and OKC need to get smarter, Westbrook needs to play like a PG and Durant needs to start being selfish if they are going to win anything together. GSW beat both these teams in a 7 game series if it started now, but as long as OKC and Spurs are healthy come finals they will be right up there.
Just want to point out im not a Curry hater.
In fact I was his biggest supporter a few years ago.
In the youth draft we did I took him pick 7 and called him the best shooter in the NBA
What surprised me is that Kevin Durant although being the best scorer and the best shooter in the world (yes he is a better shooter than Curry, Holz) - Jay 27/03/13
a few quotes from me
How good is my man curry. 44 points 11 assists, kids a star. look out allen this kid is gunning for you - May 07, 2013
that guy is easily the best shooter I have ever seen play - March 25, 2013
What can I say, I get excited :P
But, records are records ;)
So does this make Seth Curry a better shooter than his brother?
Season Stats
9/12 from 3PT (75%)
14/21 overall FG (66.7%)
Quote from: valkorum on December 03, 2015, 12:00:40 PM
So does this make Seth Curry a better shooter than his brother?
Season Stats
9/12 from 3PT (75%)
14/21 overall FG (66.7%)
im sure steph if he was wide open like seth could do better then that.
Seth can shoot though, just not anything else.
Quote from: Holz on December 03, 2015, 12:10:03 PM
im sure steph if he was wide open like seth could do better then that.
Seth can shoot though, just not anything else.
Seth is not just taking wide open shots, there is pressure to his shots. But, yes he is just a flat out shooter and not much else.
Very tired of ESPN's 2-games-a-week coverage of the NBA >:(
Quote from: My Chumps on December 03, 2015, 01:05:51 PM
Very tired of ESPN's 2-games-a-week coverage of the NBA >:(
It's more than that isn't it? Thursday, Sat and Sunday, and 1 of those days are a double header at least...still pathetic though.
Foxtels ESPN channel has always been terrible.
If you want the best coverage you have to go League Pass... Currently, the NBL are giving you a discount code to get 10% off League Pass
www.nbl.com.au/featured-news/special-offer-nbl-nba-discount/
Quote from: jvalles69 on December 03, 2015, 03:54:02 PM
Quote from: My Chumps on December 03, 2015, 01:05:51 PM
Very tired of ESPN's 2-games-a-week coverage of the NBA >:(
It's more than that isn't it? Thursday, Sat and Sunday, and 1 of those days are a double header at least...still pathetic though.
You may have just revolutionised my world but last I checked there was no games Sunday?
Jah has been suspended for two games since there is a video of a 2nd fight that has emerged from that night. He has a body guard that will now follow him everywhere as well employed by the 6'ers. If there is one guy of the big three that is going to be expendable come the end of the season it will be him. If Embiid looks to be healthy they will go with the pairing of him and Noel and look to trade Okafor. It will just depend on the deal. I wouldn't be surprised if the Lakers off of Russell and no restrictions on their first this year comes up again.
Quote from: My Chumps on December 03, 2015, 06:19:35 PM
Quote from: jvalles69 on December 03, 2015, 03:54:02 PM
Quote from: My Chumps on December 03, 2015, 01:05:51 PM
Very tired of ESPN's 2-games-a-week coverage of the NBA >:(
It's more than that isn't it? Thursday, Sat and Sunday, and 1 of those days are a double header at least...still pathetic though.
You may have just revolutionised my world but last I checked there was no games Sunday?
Definitely a sunday game, but it's got a weird title, like NBA special edition or something, but it's another live game.
The Sunday games aren't every week. If they don't show a Saturday double header they might show one on the Sunday
Quote from: Mat0369 on December 03, 2015, 07:41:44 PM
Jah has been suspended for two games since there is a video of a 2nd fight that has emerged from that night. He has a body guard that will now follow him everywhere as well employed by the 6'ers. If there is one guy of the big three that is going to be expendable come the end of the season it will be him. If Embiid looks to be healthy they will go with the pairing of him and Noel and look to trade Okafor. It will just depend on the deal. I wouldn't be surprised if the Lakers off of Russell and no restrictions on their first this year comes up again.
Stephen A said it best.
Okafor has lost more games in the last month then he has in his whole life.
Philly have the talent but a terrible culture. Remind me of Melbourne a few years ago.
Okafor is a winner and Philly are losers at the moment.
@jayman
Boston v Kings today
Quote from: valkorum on December 04, 2015, 12:21:04 PM
@jayman
Boston v Kings today
Unlucky Valk. Thanks for giving up Isaiah ;)
Quote from: Jayman on December 04, 2015, 05:23:17 PM
Quote from: valkorum on December 04, 2015, 12:21:04 PM
@jayman
Boston v Kings today
Unlucky Valk. Thanks for giving up Isaiah ;)
You guys jumped us (ok, you destroyed us) in the 1st quarter and then it was even from then on.
haha you make me laugh Holz, what do you have against Curry and the Warriors, if you discount that title you may as well can em all
Quote from: RiOtChEsS on December 07, 2015, 09:43:39 AM
haha you make me laugh Holz, what do you have against Curry and the Warriors, if you discount that title you may as well can em all
Just want to point out im not a Curry hater.
In fact I was his biggest supporter a few years ago.
In the youth draft we did I took him pick 7 and called him the best shooter in the NBA
What surprised me is that Kevin Durant although being the best scorer and the best shooter in the world (yes he is a better shooter than Curry, Holz) - Jay 27/03/13
a few quotes from me
How good is my man curry. 44 points 11 assists, kids a star. look out allen this kid is gunning for you - May 07, 2013
that guy is easily the best shooter I have ever seen play - March 25, 2013
Who on the Warriors do you think we are overrating, Holz?
Quote from: Jayman on December 07, 2015, 03:50:05 PM
Who on the Warriors do you think we are overrating, Holz?
the whole team as a championship team. They are great in the regular season, I just feel in a 7 game series against a really tough opponent they will be found wanting. Kerr is probably overrated, chuck him up against Pop when pop can devote all his time about beating him rather then managing his players game times and I can see their game style breaking down.
Not even Pop can come up with a way to beat the Draymond at centre lineup. It's impossible.
Curry-Klay-Iggy-Barnes-Draymond, is the best 5-man lineup of all time.
Quote from: Jayman on December 07, 2015, 04:33:45 PM
Curry-Klay-Iggy-Barnes-Draymond, is the best 5-man lineup of all time.
Kerr, Jordan, Pippen, Rodman, Longley -- they might have something to say about that.
Quote from: Jayman on December 07, 2015, 04:33:45 PM
Not even Pop can come up with a way to beat the Draymond at centre lineup. It's impossible.
Curry-Klay-Iggy-Barnes-Draymond, is the best 5-man lineup of all time.
you dont sound like your joking but clearly you are
Parker Ginobli Leonard Aldridge Duncan
Irving Smith James Thompson Love
Westbrook Waiters Durrant Kanter Ibaka
ill take those 3 teams over them right now.
Parish Ainge Johnson Bird Mchale - 86 celtics
Johnson Worthy Copper Scott Abdul-Jabar - 87 lakers
Quote from: Holz on December 07, 2015, 05:52:31 PM
Quote from: Jayman on December 07, 2015, 04:33:45 PM
Not even Pop can come up with a way to beat the Draymond at centre lineup. It's impossible.
Curry-Klay-Iggy-Barnes-Draymond, is the best 5-man lineup of all time.
you dont sound like your joking but clearly you are
Parker Ginobli Leonard Aldridge Duncan
Irving Smith James Thompson Love
Westbrook Waiters Durrant Kanter Ibaka
ill take those 3 teams over them right now.
Parish Ainge Johnson Bird Mchale - 86 celtics
Johnson Worthy Copper Scott Abdul-Jabar - 87 lakers
I'm not joking. None of those lineups could defend Golden State's small ball. Apart from maybe the Bulls because of Pipp and Rodman.
I think Draymond Green is the best centre in the NBA when he plays there. No one else can do what he does.
Quote from: Jayman on December 07, 2015, 06:47:08 PM
Quote from: Holz on December 07, 2015, 05:52:31 PM
Quote from: Jayman on December 07, 2015, 04:33:45 PM
Not even Pop can come up with a way to beat the Draymond at centre lineup. It's impossible.
Curry-Klay-Iggy-Barnes-Draymond, is the best 5-man lineup of all time.
you dont sound like your joking but clearly you are
Parker Ginobli Leonard Aldridge Duncan
Irving Smith James Thompson Love
Westbrook Waiters Durrant Kanter Ibaka
ill take those 3 teams over them right now.
Parish Ainge Johnson Bird Mchale - 86 celtics
Johnson Worthy Copper Scott Abdul-Jabar - 87 lakers
I'm not joking. None of those lineups could defend Golden State's small ball. Apart from maybe the Bulls because of Pipp and Rodman.
I think Draymond Green is the best centre in the NBA when he plays there. No one else can do what he does.
That is the most ridiculous thing I've EVER heard.
Quote from: jvalles69 on December 07, 2015, 07:15:48 PM
Quote from: Jayman on December 07, 2015, 06:47:08 PM
Quote from: Holz on December 07, 2015, 05:52:31 PM
Quote from: Jayman on December 07, 2015, 04:33:45 PM
Not even Pop can come up with a way to beat the Draymond at centre lineup. It's impossible.
Curry-Klay-Iggy-Barnes-Draymond, is the best 5-man lineup of all time.
you dont sound like your joking but clearly you are
Parker Ginobli Leonard Aldridge Duncan
Irving Smith James Thompson Love
Westbrook Waiters Durrant Kanter Ibaka
ill take those 3 teams over them right now.
Parish Ainge Johnson Bird Mchale - 86 celtics
Johnson Worthy Copper Scott Abdul-Jabar - 87 lakers
I'm not joking. None of those lineups could defend Golden State's small ball. Apart from maybe the Bulls because of Pipp and Rodman.
I think Draymond Green is the best centre in the NBA when he plays there. No one else can do what he does.
That is the most ridiculous thing I've EVER heard.
It's similar to when people say that LeBron playing point guard, is the best point guard in the league. I think Holz is of that opinion.
The fact that Draymond can defend centres, and then on the other end he spreads the floor, and can handle/distribute like a guard. He's so unique, I don't think anyone is more effective at the centre position than him.
Quote from: Holz on December 07, 2015, 11:38:10 AM
Quote from: RiOtChEsS on December 07, 2015, 09:43:39 AM
haha you make me laugh Holz, what do you have against Curry and the Warriors, if you discount that title you may as well can em all
Just want to point out im not a Curry hater.
In fact I was his biggest supporter a few years ago.
In the youth draft we did I took him pick 7 and called him the best shooter in the NBA
What surprised me is that Kevin Durant although being the best scorer and the best shooter in the world (yes he is a better shooter than Curry, Holz) - Jay 27/03/13
a few quotes from me
How good is my man curry. 44 points 11 assists, kids a star. look out allen this kid is gunning for you - May 07, 2013
that guy is easily the best shooter I have ever seen play - March 25, 2013
Yeah I think I agree with this last one! What's so unusual about him is that he's the Point guard, not many points have such a lethal jump shot. Part of the reason I have him on top of the bunch
Quote from: Jayman on December 07, 2015, 07:25:52 PM
Quote from: jvalles69 on December 07, 2015, 07:15:48 PM
Quote from: Jayman on December 07, 2015, 06:47:08 PM
Quote from: Holz on December 07, 2015, 05:52:31 PM
Quote from: Jayman on December 07, 2015, 04:33:45 PM
Not even Pop can come up with a way to beat the Draymond at centre lineup. It's impossible.
Curry-Klay-Iggy-Barnes-Draymond, is the best 5-man lineup of all time.
you dont sound like your joking but clearly you are
Parker Ginobli Leonard Aldridge Duncan
Irving Smith James Thompson Love
Westbrook Waiters Durrant Kanter Ibaka
ill take those 3 teams over them right now.
Parish Ainge Johnson Bird Mchale - 86 celtics
Johnson Worthy Copper Scott Abdul-Jabar - 87 lakers
I'm not joking. None of those lineups could defend Golden State's small ball. Apart from maybe the Bulls because of Pipp and Rodman.
I think Draymond Green is the best centre in the NBA when he plays there. No one else can do what he does.
That is the most ridiculous thing I've EVER heard.
It's similar to when people say that LeBron playing point guard, is the best point guard in the league. I think Holz is of that opinion.
The fact that Draymond can defend centres, and then on the other end he spreads the floor, and can handle/distribute like a guard. He's so unique, I don't think anyone is more effective at the centre position than him.
Lebron is the best point guard when he plays there.
Green is no Lebron though.
he isnt even the best in his true position.
Griffin Drummond Aldridge Cousins
Quote from: Holz on December 07, 2015, 10:27:55 PM
Griffin Drummond Aldridge Cousins
I like Griffin but he isn't a Center - he is a Power Forward.
Best 3 centers at the moment IMO are Cousins, Drummond, M Gasol
Quote from: valkorum on December 07, 2015, 11:46:26 PM
Quote from: Holz on December 07, 2015, 10:27:55 PM
Griffin Drummond Aldridge Cousins
I like Griffin but he isn't a Center - he is a Power Forward.
Best 3 centers at the moment IMO are Cousins, Drummond, M Gasol
I know but green is a PF/C
So there are better PFs and Cs
I agree with your 3 but would have Aldridge up there if you consider a C
Quote from: Holz on December 08, 2015, 12:23:41 AM
Quote from: valkorum on December 07, 2015, 11:46:26 PM
Quote from: Holz on December 07, 2015, 10:27:55 PM
Griffin Drummond Aldridge Cousins
I like Griffin but he isn't a Center - he is a Power Forward.
Best 3 centers at the moment IMO are Cousins, Drummond, M Gasol
I know but green is a PF/C
So there are better PFs and Cs
I agree with your 3 but would have Aldridge up there if you consider a C
Aldridge, P Gasol, D Jordan would be the next in line to round out the top 5 IMO
Quote from: tbagrocks on December 07, 2015, 08:56:52 PM
Quote from: Holz on December 07, 2015, 11:38:10 AM
Quote from: RiOtChEsS on December 07, 2015, 09:43:39 AM
haha you make me laugh Holz, what do you have against Curry and the Warriors, if you discount that title you may as well can em all
Just want to point out im not a Curry hater.
In fact I was his biggest supporter a few years ago.
In the youth draft we did I took him pick 7 and called him the best shooter in the NBA
What surprised me is that Kevin Durant although being the best scorer and the best shooter in the world (yes he is a better shooter than Curry, Holz) - Jay 27/03/13
a few quotes from me
How good is my man curry. 44 points 11 assists, kids a star. look out allen this kid is gunning for you - May 07, 2013
that guy is easily the best shooter I have ever seen play - March 25, 2013
Yeah I think I agree with this last one! What's so unusual about him is that he's the Point guard, not many points have such a lethal jump shot. Part of the reason I have him on top of the bunch
This ^
No one has ever done what Curry is doing right now. The MVP race is over already.
Quote from: Jayman on December 08, 2015, 01:03:42 PM
Quote from: tbagrocks on December 07, 2015, 08:56:52 PM
Quote from: Holz on December 07, 2015, 11:38:10 AM
Quote from: RiOtChEsS on December 07, 2015, 09:43:39 AM
haha you make me laugh Holz, what do you have against Curry and the Warriors, if you discount that title you may as well can em all
Just want to point out im not a Curry hater.
In fact I was his biggest supporter a few years ago.
In the youth draft we did I took him pick 7 and called him the best shooter in the NBA
What surprised me is that Kevin Durant although being the best scorer and the best shooter in the world (yes he is a better shooter than Curry, Holz) - Jay 27/03/13
a few quotes from me
How good is my man curry. 44 points 11 assists, kids a star. look out allen this kid is gunning for you - May 07, 2013
that guy is easily the best shooter I have ever seen play - March 25, 2013
Yeah I think I agree with this last one! What's so unusual about him is that he's the Point guard, not many points have such a lethal jump shot. Part of the reason I have him on top of the bunch
This ^
No one has ever done what Curry is doing right now. The MVP race is over already.
Isnt kd a better shooter? :P
All in on Warriors n Cavs today :-[
Quote from: RiOtChEsS on December 09, 2015, 10:16:47 AM
All in on Warriors n Cavs today :-[
thought for a second Warrior v Cav.
would have loved to have seen Lebron take them out.
Quote from: Holz on December 09, 2015, 10:38:29 AM
Quote from: RiOtChEsS on December 09, 2015, 10:16:47 AM
All in on Warriors n Cavs today :-[
thought for a second Warrior v Cav.
would have loved to have seen Lebron take them out.
boxing day ;)
Cavs doing their best to kill ya mate!
I loaded up on LeBron 27+ points into Klay Thompson 20+.
LeBron only has 8 nearing HT while Thompson made 17 in the first quarter alone! I thought LeBron was the safe pick!!
@Holz you're absolutely delusional haha
Quote from: elephants on December 09, 2015, 01:00:50 PM
Cavs doing their best to kill ya mate!
I loaded up on LeBron 27+ points into Klay Thompson 20+.
LeBron only has 8 nearing HT while Thompson made 17 in the first quarter alone! I thought LeBron was the safe pick!!
@Holz you're absolutely delusional haha
they've just gone on a big run, back within 9
In the time it took me to write that post LeBron added 7 points and Klay added 12 haha. Get there LBJ!
Quote from: elephants on December 09, 2015, 01:00:50 PM
Cavs doing their best to kill ya mate!
I loaded up on LeBron 27+ points into Klay Thompson 20+.
LeBron only has 8 nearing HT while Thompson made 17 in the first quarter alone! I thought LeBron was the safe pick!!
@Holz you're absolutely delusional haha
about what Ele?
I called that Curry was going to be a star basically first on this site.
I just dont think that small point guards can carry a team when it comes to the playoffs. Thomas almost did it and curry is loving up to that but a fit OKC and Spurs and I dont like their chances.
Leonard is on fire and if Aldridge fits in more with the rested older stars they will be formidable.Same for Thunder. Curry is amazing but he cant stop Durrant and Westbrook. Green and Iggy are good but they arent KD Westbrook good.
im just pouring water on all this are GSW one of the greatest teams ever and going on historic runs etc..
truth is Curry is the best shooter I have ever seen in the NBA (called 2+ years ago)
warriors look insane but havent won a playoffs series against a fully fit formidable opponent.
never sleep on the spurs they are a championship organisation filled with champion players
thunder probably the most talented roster in the NBA with two top 5 players, just need to click and be healthy
Lebron has made it to 5 straight finals, will probably make it 6. Top in the east without their second best player.
I was referring more to the Cavs taking out GSW... be real ;)
Klay Thompson could be on track for most threes in a game here :o
10 already and we're still in the third.
Until he sits the 4th
Quote from: elephants on December 09, 2015, 01:29:58 PM
I was referring more to the Cavs taking out GSW... be real ;)
ohh ok.
depends how much the cavs want it really.
they did beat them 2 times without love, so actually they should be a very good chance. however this is the regular season not the playoffs so warriors should be favorites.
Cavs still are the number 1 seed and do have the best player in the planet when he needs to be.
so nervous :-X
Klay has apparently hurt his ankle pretty bad
Quote from: RiOtChEsS on December 09, 2015, 02:25:21 PM
Klay has apparently hurt his ankle pretty bad
not a great sign for the healthiest team in nba history, if he is out then its time for Steph to show how great he is.
they should easily keep winning without Klay because Curry is even better then the great Lebron. :P
Quote from: Holz on December 09, 2015, 02:33:37 PM
Quote from: RiOtChEsS on December 09, 2015, 02:25:21 PM
Klay has apparently hurt his ankle pretty bad
not a great sign for the healthiest team in nba history, if he is out then its time for Steph to show how great he is.
they should easily keep winning without Klay because Curry is even better then the great Lebron. :P
This is Steph's quote on whether he could take over MJ's GOAT...
"Yeah. why else would I be playing? You want to be the best you can be. And if the best you can be is better than him, then why not? That's good motivation."
I get it, but makes him sound a bit douchy.
Quote from: jvalles69 on December 09, 2015, 03:41:33 PM
Quote from: Holz on December 09, 2015, 02:33:37 PM
Quote from: RiOtChEsS on December 09, 2015, 02:25:21 PM
Klay has apparently hurt his ankle pretty bad
not a great sign for the healthiest team in nba history, if he is out then its time for Steph to show how great he is.
they should easily keep winning without Klay because Curry is even better then the great Lebron. :P
This is Steph's quote on whether he could take over MJ's GOAT...
"Yeah. why else would I be playing? You want to be the best you can be. And if the best you can be is better than him, then why not? That's good motivation."
I get it, but makes him sound a bit douchy.
this is why im on the warriors and steph. not his answer but the fact the question was even raised.
The NBA has tried to step in on Tankadelphia. The owners have complained to Silver so Silver put in a call to Jerry Conangelo and Harris about a connection and potential job. They want Hinkie to have to report to Conangelo who is 76 and won't even be leaving Phoenix.
The owners have used the 'we have poor revenue when we play the 6'ers line' so that they don't classify it as a tank. Maybe they should go take a look at LA where they are having the Kobe retirement tour and subsequently have benched Randle and Russell to give the likes of Swaggy more minutes. How about Billie King trading away the Nets entire future for two over the hill stars and now being stuck in basketball purgatory? It will be interesting to see how it plays out from here with Hinkie's process vs the apparent new boss.
Big win for the Celts today. Looking forward to breaking the Warriors' streak tomorrow.
RONDO!!!!!!!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e6xqO7QHKh0
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Big win for the Celts today. Looking forward to breaking the Warriors' streak tomorrow.
So bloody close :'(
What the Buck!
Quote from: elephants on December 13, 2015, 05:17:10 PM
What the Buck!
actually not surprised it was a team with good big men.
Quote from: Holz on December 14, 2015, 12:11:10 PM
Quote from: elephants on December 13, 2015, 05:17:10 PM
What the Buck!
actually not surprised it was a team with good big men.
GSW didn't lose to the Bucks, they lost to the schedule. 6 eastern conference road games in 10 days is ridiculous. In saying that, they aren't the same without Barnes - he makes a big difference.
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What the Buck!
actually not surprised it was a team with good big men.
GSW didn't lose to the Bucks, they lost to the schedule. 6 eastern conference road games in 10 days is ridiculous. In saying that, they aren't the same without Barnes - he makes a big difference.
the weak eastern conference?
so one injury to one player and they go down. would love to see if they lost someone like Klay Thompson and see how they went.
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Quote from: elephants on December 13, 2015, 05:17:10 PM
What the Buck!
actually not surprised it was a team with good big men.
GSW didn't lose to the Bucks, they lost to the schedule. 6 eastern conference road games in 10 days is ridiculous. In saying that, they aren't the same without Barnes - he makes a big difference.
the weak eastern conference?
so one injury to one player and they go down. would love to see if they lost someone like Klay Thompson and see how they went.
Eastern conference isn't weak this season so far
And that's like saying lets see how the Cavs go without Love, or Spurs without Duncan/whoever their second option is. Of course they're not as good. You plan your team around your best players and if they're not playing, of course the team will be worse.
Last time I checked, Eastern Conference is beating the Western Conference in head-to-head matches.
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Quote from: elephants on December 13, 2015, 05:17:10 PM
What the Buck!
actually not surprised it was a team with good big men.
GSW didn't lose to the Bucks, they lost to the schedule. 6 eastern conference road games in 10 days is ridiculous. In saying that, they aren't the same without Barnes - he makes a big difference.
the weak eastern conference?
so one injury to one player and they go down. would love to see if they lost someone like Klay Thompson and see how they went.
Eastern conference isn't weak this season so far
And that's like saying lets see how the Cavs go without Love, or Spurs without Duncan/whoever their second option is. Of course they're not as good. You plan your team around your best players and if they're not playing, of course the team will be worse.
I know it was in reference to last years playoffs where actual stars were missing.
Lebron " GSW the healthiest team in history"
Quote from: Holz on December 14, 2015, 12:21:44 PM
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Quote from: elephants on December 13, 2015, 05:17:10 PM
What the Buck!
actually not surprised it was a team with good big men.
GSW didn't lose to the Bucks, they lost to the schedule. 6 eastern conference road games in 10 days is ridiculous. In saying that, they aren't the same without Barnes - he makes a big difference.
the weak eastern conference?
so one injury to one player and they go down. would love to see if they lost someone like Klay Thompson and see how they went.
He went over on his ankle and didn't play in Golden State's win over the Celtics so that point is fairly void.
Quote from: Holz on December 14, 2015, 01:57:26 PM
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Quote from: elephants on December 13, 2015, 05:17:10 PM
What the Buck!
actually not surprised it was a team with good big men.
GSW didn't lose to the Bucks, they lost to the schedule. 6 eastern conference road games in 10 days is ridiculous. In saying that, they aren't the same without Barnes - he makes a big difference.
the weak eastern conference?
so one injury to one player and they go down. would love to see if they lost someone like Klay Thompson and see how they went.
Eastern conference isn't weak this season so far
And that's like saying lets see how the Cavs go without Love, or Spurs without Duncan/whoever their second option is. Of course they're not as good. You plan your team around your best players and if they're not playing, of course the team will be worse.
I know it was in reference to last years playoffs where actual stars were missing.
Lebron " GSW the healthiest team in history"
Wait who was talking about the playoffs?
And further I don't think it's fair to criticise the Warriors for being healthy. Teams get crushed for overplaying their stars and so when the Warriors play their guys relatively low minutes they should be praised as it's probably the best way to control injuries
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Quote from: elephants on December 13, 2015, 05:17:10 PM
What the Buck!
actually not surprised it was a team with good big men.
GSW didn't lose to the Bucks, they lost to the schedule. 6 eastern conference road games in 10 days is ridiculous. In saying that, they aren't the same without Barnes - he makes a big difference.
the weak eastern conference?
so one injury to one player and they go down. would love to see if they lost someone like Klay Thompson and see how they went.
He went over on his ankle and didn't play in Golden State's win over the Celtics so that point is fairly void.
what do you mean. They had to go to double overtime to beat the celtics. Who are just scraping into the 7th seed in the east. They also only lost him for one game.
warriors shouldn't be criticized for staying healthy but it should limit their praise.
they dont limit their stars that much and part of the reason they can is because they are healthy. most of the stars they faced that were injured where not from overworking eg. Colney (face) Love (dirty celtic player)
Quote from: Holz on December 14, 2015, 03:59:31 PM
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Quote from: elephants on December 13, 2015, 05:17:10 PM
What the Buck!
actually not surprised it was a team with good big men.
GSW didn't lose to the Bucks, they lost to the schedule. 6 eastern conference road games in 10 days is ridiculous. In saying that, they aren't the same without Barnes - he makes a big difference.
the weak eastern conference?
so one injury to one player and they go down. would love to see if they lost someone like Klay Thompson and see how they went.
He went over on his ankle and didn't play in Golden State's win over the Celtics so that point is fairly void.
what do you mean. They had to go to double overtime to beat the celtics. Who are just scraping into the 7th seed in the east. They also only lost him for one game.
warriors shouldn't be criticized for staying healthy but it should limit their praise.
they dont limit their stars that much and part of the reason they can is because they are healthy. most of the stars they faced that were injured where not from overworking eg. Colney (face) Love (dirty celtic player)
Your point was they wouldn't win without Thompson, but they did. Their heavy schedule has already been mentioned, plus Celtic tend to bring their A-Game against the big teams - Beating the Heat and Bulls, pushed Spurs all the way.
Boston in Boston is a fair win without a key player.
And you can't say that them being healthy isn't somewhat attributable to good management. Sure luck plays a part but it makes sense that looking after players health is beneficial long term.
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Quote from: elephants on December 13, 2015, 05:17:10 PM
What the Buck!
actually not surprised it was a team with good big men.
GSW didn't lose to the Bucks, they lost to the schedule. 6 eastern conference road games in 10 days is ridiculous. In saying that, they aren't the same without Barnes - he makes a big difference.
the weak eastern conference?
so one injury to one player and they go down. would love to see if they lost someone like Klay Thompson and see how they went.
He went over on his ankle and didn't play in Golden State's win over the Celtics so that point is fairly void.
what do you mean. They had to go to double overtime to beat the celtics. Who are just scraping into the 7th seed in the east. They also only lost him for one game.
warriors shouldn't be criticized for staying healthy but it should limit their praise.
they dont limit their stars that much and part of the reason they can is because they are healthy. most of the stars they faced that were injured where not from overworking eg. Colney (face) Love (dirty celtic player)
Your point was they wouldn't win without Thompson, but they did. Their heavy schedule has already been mentioned, plus Celtic tend to bring their A-Game against the big teams - Beating the Heat and Bulls, pushed Spurs all the way.
Boston in Boston is a fair win without a key player.
And you can't say that them being healthy isn't somewhat attributable to good management. Sure luck plays a part but it makes sense that looking after players health is beneficial long term.
not sure you can call my point invalid about seeing how they go with losing a star after a double overtime win against the 7th seed in the east.
it is good management but its mainly luck. You get one freak accident like a coleny broken face or a love injured shoulder and they have to play alot more minutes and risk of injury going up.
im just pumping the breaks on them.
Haha invalid or not, it was disproven a few days ago :P
Quote from: elephants on December 14, 2015, 05:16:39 PM
Haha invalid or not, it was disproven a few days ago :P
I think it was proven a few days ago :P
barely winning over an average team is evidence they struggle.
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Quote from: elephants on December 14, 2015, 05:16:39 PM
Haha invalid or not, it was disproven a few days ago :P
I think it was proven a few days ago :P
barely winning over an average team is evidence they struggle.
You're underrating Boston haha. But I appreciate what you're trying to do to that GSW hype!
Cheeky Westbrook
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GmUVl6WhPRQ
Although, looking at the slow mo at the end.... I am not sure he got the shot off before the clock expired.
Watching the Spurs absolutely annihilate the Jazz. Playing at a crazy high level. If anyone can beat the Warriors, its them.
Quote from: Jayman on December 15, 2015, 03:04:48 PM
Watching the Spurs absolutely annihilate the Jazz. Playing at a crazy high level. If anyone can beat the Warriors, its them.
Yet we have to wait till the 26th to see it happen ::)
Quote from: My Chumps on December 15, 2015, 04:18:42 PM
Quote from: Jayman on December 15, 2015, 03:04:48 PM
Watching the Spurs absolutely annihilate the Jazz. Playing at a crazy high level. If anyone can beat the Warriors, its them.
people will probably be sick of this but in my opinion.
Watching the Spurs absolutely annihilate the Jazz. Playing at a crazy high level. If anyone can beat the Spurs, its not the warriors :P
Quote from: My Chumps on December 15, 2015, 04:18:42 PM
Quote from: Jayman on December 15, 2015, 03:04:48 PM
Watching the Spurs absolutely annihilate the Jazz. Playing at a crazy high level. If anyone can beat the Warriors, its them.
Yet we have to wait till the 26th to see it happen ::)
Can't wait for that! I hope we get to see a playoff series between the two.. I think we will.
This Spurs defense is on track to be the best ever. Very interested to see how that matches up against the Warriors' offense.
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Quote from: RiOtChEsS on December 09, 2015, 02:25:21 PM
Klay has apparently hurt his ankle pretty bad
not a great sign for the healthiest team in nba history, if he is out then its time for Steph to show how great he is.
they should easily keep winning without Klay because Curry is even better then the great Lebron. :P
This is Steph's quote on whether he could take over MJ's GOAT...
"Yeah. why else would I be playing? You want to be the best you can be. And if the best you can be is better than him, then why not? That's good motivation."
I get it, but makes him sound a bit douchy.
this is why im on the warriors and steph. not his answer but the fact the question was even raised.
taken completely out of context, read the whole interview, its been chopped up to sound that way
Kings with the W over the Rockets. Love it as I cant stand Harden or Dwight
this makes me wanna puke
http://www.sheridanhoops.com/2015/12/15/sheridan-dwight-howard-unhappy-in-houston-headed-to-miami/
Quote from: RiOtChEsS on December 17, 2015, 12:01:19 PM
this makes me wanna puke
http://www.sheridanhoops.com/2015/12/15/sheridan-dwight-howard-unhappy-in-houston-headed-to-miami/
I wouldn't want D12 anywhere near my team.
Quote from: Jayman on December 17, 2015, 09:08:40 PM
Quote from: RiOtChEsS on December 17, 2015, 12:01:19 PM
this makes me wanna puke
http://www.sheridanhoops.com/2015/12/15/sheridan-dwight-howard-unhappy-in-houston-headed-to-miami/
I wouldn't want D12 anywhere near my team.
Lots of rumours being tossed around, Whiteside to Sactown for Cousins has popped up, would make Miami a legitimate title chance.
Really fun game between two good teams here, Toronto and Charlotte. DeRozan just hit a half-court shot with 0.07 seconds left to put Toronto up by 3, but it was waived off because Lowry called a timeout right before he shot it!
Quote from: jvalles69 on December 18, 2015, 01:34:13 PM
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this makes me wanna puke
http://www.sheridanhoops.com/2015/12/15/sheridan-dwight-howard-unhappy-in-houston-headed-to-miami/
I wouldn't want D12 anywhere near my team.
Lots of rumours being tossed around, Whiteside to Sactown for Cousins has popped up, would make Miami a legitimate title chance.
there is no doubt we want DmC but cmon are The Kings really gonna move him, and 4 Whiteside and Winslow? fkn sold :-X :D
No chance DMC is worth Whiteside and Winslow.
I wish people would stop throwing up Cousins each year. Vlade has categorically said that DMC aint going anywhere - he is the foundation of the Kings.
Quote from: valkorum on December 18, 2015, 10:12:50 PM
No chance DMC is worth Whiteside and Winslow.
I wish people would stop throwing up Cousins each year. Vlade has categorically said that DMC aint going anywhere - he is the foundation of the Kings.
Yep. Same as what Winslow should be to the Heat.
Heat have to do something to move Whiteside, or they get nothing back in return when he's a free agent. It's Pat Riley too so anythings possible, and the Kings have made way dumber moves in the past. Heat just need a solid double double C, no one with necessarily a big name attached, get a solid C and add another quality piece for Whiteside. Heat don't even use Whiteside to his full potential, imagine the guy was playing over 30mins per game? He'd be a triple double threat every night with blocks! And yes I want him to get to a team that plays him 30+ minutes cos I have him in my fantasy side! :P
Gerald Green has hit 5 threes in this game, and all of them have been at least a foot outside the line with one or two hands in his face :o
Warriors need Steve Kerr back.
when u slip a cheeky 25 on the Bucks to beat the Warriors at 21/1 and then cashout at the start of the 4th up 10 and snag a lazy 249 :D
Derrick Favors is a really really good big man. He's been better than A Davis so far this year, yet gets 1% of the hype Davis does...
Quote from: Jayman on December 21, 2015, 12:16:34 AM
Derrick Favors is a really really good big man. He's been better than A Davis so far this year, yet gets 1% of the hype Davis does...
On what planet is Favors better than AD??? Here are their averages:
AD: Pts: 23, Reb: 10.9 Ass: 1.5 Blk: 2.7 FG%: 47.9 FT%: 74.6 TO: 2.2 Stl: 1.3
Favors: Pts: 16.8 Reb: 8.6 Ass: 1.5 Blk: 1.1 FG%: 52.9 FT%: 69.6 TO: 1.3 Stl: 1.6
I'm choosing AD every day of the week, not to mention being able to hit from outside the arc. Davis is 2 years younger too, Favors has hit his ceiling AD hasn't. Nothing tells me that Favors has been better than AD…nothing.
Quote from: jvalles69 on December 21, 2015, 01:08:43 AM
Quote from: Jayman on December 21, 2015, 12:16:34 AM
Derrick Favors is a really really good big man. He's been better than A Davis so far this year, yet gets 1% of the hype Davis does...
On what planet is Favors better than AD??? Here are their averages:
AD: Pts: 23, Reb: 10.9 Ass: 1.5 Blk: 2.7 FG%: 47.9 FT%: 74.6 TO: 2.2 Stl: 1.3
Favors: Pts: 16.8 Reb: 8.6 Ass: 1.5 Blk: 1.1 FG%: 52.9 FT%: 69.6 TO: 1.3 Stl: 1.6
I'm choosing AD every day of the week, not to mention being able to hit from outside the arc. Davis is 2 years younger too, Favors has hit his ceiling AD hasn't. Nothing tells me that Favors has been better than AD…nothing.
haha yeah that looks like a whoopsie young blood ;D
Quote from: RiOtChEsS on December 21, 2015, 09:52:46 AM
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Quote from: Jayman on December 21, 2015, 12:16:34 AM
Derrick Favors is a really really good big man. He's been better than A Davis so far this year, yet gets 1% of the hype Davis does...
On what planet is Favors better than AD??? Here are their averages:
AD: Pts: 23, Reb: 10.9 Ass: 1.5 Blk: 2.7 FG%: 47.9 FT%: 74.6 TO: 2.2 Stl: 1.3
Favors: Pts: 16.8 Reb: 8.6 Ass: 1.5 Blk: 1.1 FG%: 52.9 FT%: 69.6 TO: 1.3 Stl: 1.6
I'm choosing AD every day of the week, not to mention being able to hit from outside the arc. Davis is 2 years younger too, Favors has hit his ceiling AD hasn't. Nothing tells me that Favors has been better than AD…nothing.
haha yeah that looks like a whoopsie young blood ;D
Nah I'll stick with it..
http://www.basketball-reference.com/play-index/pcm_finder.cgi?request=1&sum=0&y1=2016&p1=davisan02&y2=2016&p2=favorde01&p3=&p4=&p5=&p6=#advanced::none
Derrick Favors: 24.2 PER, 56 TS%, 53 eFG%, 3.3 Win Shares, .204 WS/48, 117 offensive rating, 102 defensive rating, 4.4 box plus/minus, 1.3 value over replacement player
Anthony Davis: 24 PER, 55 TS%, 50 eFG%, 2.3 Win Shares, .132 WS/48, 106 offensive rating, 104 defensive rating, 1.2 box plus/minus, 0.7 value over replacement player
Sure it's very similar, but I've just been disappointed with Davis and New Orleans in general, so far this year given my high expectations for him and the team.. 14th in the west is pretty poor. But I guess it doesn't hurt them to suck for one more year and put a high lottery pick next to AD.
Quote from: Jayman on December 21, 2015, 11:00:04 AM
Quote from: RiOtChEsS on December 21, 2015, 09:52:46 AM
Quote from: jvalles69 on December 21, 2015, 01:08:43 AM
Quote from: Jayman on December 21, 2015, 12:16:34 AM
Derrick Favors is a really really good big man. He's been better than A Davis so far this year, yet gets 1% of the hype Davis does...
On what planet is Favors better than AD??? Here are their averages:
AD: Pts: 23, Reb: 10.9 Ass: 1.5 Blk: 2.7 FG%: 47.9 FT%: 74.6 TO: 2.2 Stl: 1.3
Favors: Pts: 16.8 Reb: 8.6 Ass: 1.5 Blk: 1.1 FG%: 52.9 FT%: 69.6 TO: 1.3 Stl: 1.6
I'm choosing AD every day of the week, not to mention being able to hit from outside the arc. Davis is 2 years younger too, Favors has hit his ceiling AD hasn't. Nothing tells me that Favors has been better than AD…nothing.
haha yeah that looks like a whoopsie young blood ;D
Nah I'll stick with it..
http://www.basketball-reference.com/play-index/pcm_finder.cgi?request=1&sum=0&y1=2016&p1=davisan02&y2=2016&p2=favorde01&p3=&p4=&p5=&p6=#advanced::none
Derrick Favors: 24.2 PER, 56 TS%, 53 eFG%, 3.3 Win Shares, .204 WS/48, 117 offensive rating, 102 defensive rating, 4.4 box plus/minus, 1.3 value over replacement player
Anthony Davis: 24 PER, 55 TS%, 50 eFG%, 2.3 Win Shares, .132 WS/48, 106 offensive rating, 104 defensive rating, 1.2 box plus/minus, 0.7 value over replacement player
Sure it's very similar, but I've just been disappointed with Davis and New Orleans in general, so far this year given my high expectations for him and the team.. 14th in the west is pretty poor. But I guess it doesn't hurt them to suck for one more year and put a high lottery pick next to AD.
Anthony Davis has been pretty disappointing and we are pretty much seeing his worse given how low is PER is. His worst is still better then Favors best though. You just cant compare the two.
Yeah I think I agree with you Holz. AD is obviously a better player than any other big man and is one of the better prospects in NBA history, but my point was that just on this season alone, a guy like Favors has been just as good.
Quote from: Jayman on December 21, 2015, 11:23:43 AM
Yeah I think I agree with you Holz. AD is obviously a better player than any other big man and is one of the better prospects in NBA history, but my point was that just on this season alone, a guy like Favors has been just as good.
Davis gets talked about because he is Davis though and most people seem to be on his back abit this year for not living up to his potential.
He Is Back, Young Bloods.
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Toronto suck ass
Quote from: elephants on December 21, 2015, 12:43:14 PM
Toronto suck ass
Weeeeeeeeeeeeeee
Although they were 17-12 before this game
http://espn.go.com/nba/story/_/id/14404850/klay-thompson-golden-state-warriors-names-best-shooting-guard-nba
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Quote from: Holz on December 21, 2015, 11:26:06 AM
Quote from: Jayman on December 21, 2015, 11:23:43 AM
Yeah I think I agree with you Holz. AD is obviously a better player than any other big man and is one of the better prospects in NBA history, but my point was that just on this season alone, a guy like Favors has been just as good.
Davis gets talked about because he is Davis though and most people seem to be on his back abit this year for not living up to his potential.
The guys team was decimated before they even started the season guys! No Asik, Jrue, Tyreke...Ajinca and Anderson missed games too! He's 22, can't be expected to do everything for his team, he's not that type of player like Lebron, Durant etc who can take over a whole team by themselves. The teams only just getting back to full health, and they've been winnig more games since getting those injured guys back. you guys sound like the media criticizing him, yeah his year hasn't lived up to the hype yet, but it's not all his fault.
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Quote from: elephants on December 21, 2015, 12:43:14 PM
Toronto suck ass
Weeeeeeeeeeeeeee
Although they were 17-12 before this game
Sacramento are only 2 games out of the 8th seed. Ranked 9th in the west for point differential adjusted for strength of schedule, and 11th for net rating (offensive rating - opponent offensive rating), over their last 10 games they rank 9th in the west, ahead of teams like Memphis, Pelicans, Denver and Utah.
Not quite ready to say I think they'll get in, but they're certainly around the mark. Which is a big improvement on recent years.
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Quote from: Holz on December 21, 2015, 11:26:06 AM
Quote from: Jayman on December 21, 2015, 11:23:43 AM
Yeah I think I agree with you Holz. AD is obviously a better player than any other big man and is one of the better prospects in NBA history, but my point was that just on this season alone, a guy like Favors has been just as good.
Davis gets talked about because he is Davis though and most people seem to be on his back abit this year for not living up to his potential.
The guys team was decimated before they even started the season guys! No Asik, Jrue, Tyreke...Ajinca and Anderson missed games too! He's 22, can't be expected to do everything for his team, he's not that type of player like Lebron, Durant etc who can take over a whole team by themselves. The teams only just getting back to full health, and they've been winnig more games since getting those injured guys back. you guys sound like the media criticizing him, yeah his year hasn't lived up to the hype yet, but it's not all his fault.
Im a big big fan as you said its plenty of time left and he has had no help, just abit scar to see his PER drop that much. He has been bad by his great expectations. needs another star to work with
Curry has Klay
Lebron is Lebron but has had love who is ok
Durrant got Westbrook
George been beasting it alone
I think one of my favourite players to watch of all-time, Manu Ginobili, is the 6th man of the year so far. Per 36 minutes, he's averaging 19.3 points @ 46%, 5.5 rebounds, 6.3 assists, 1.9 steals, with a PER of 20.5.
Pretty great for a 38 year old!
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Quote from: Jayman on December 21, 2015, 11:23:43 AM
Yeah I think I agree with you Holz. AD is obviously a better player than any other big man and is one of the better prospects in NBA history, but my point was that just on this season alone, a guy like Favors has been just as good.
Davis gets talked about because he is Davis though and most people seem to be on his back abit this year for not living up to his potential.
The guys team was decimated before they even started the season guys! No Asik, Jrue, Tyreke...Ajinca and Anderson missed games too! He's 22, can't be expected to do everything for his team, he's not that type of player like Lebron, Durant etc who can take over a whole team by themselves. The teams only just getting back to full health, and they've been winnig more games since getting those injured guys back. you guys sound like the media criticizing him, yeah his year hasn't lived up to the hype yet, but it's not all his fault.
Im a big big fan as you said its plenty of time left and he has had no help, just abit scar to see his PER drop that much. He has been bad by his great expectations. needs another star to work with
Curry has Klay
Lebron is Lebron but has had love who is ok
Durrant got Westbrook
George been beasting it alone
Totally agree he has no help. Their GM hasn't managed to put good talent around him yet and stuff like signing Asik to a 5-year deal is worrying, but I guess there is still plenty of time to get it right - they just need to be patient. Have also seen a number of people who watch games every day, say that Gentry has arguably done the worst coaching job out of anyone this year. Not blaming Davis much for their problems, as he's been in an incredibly tough situation, but just pointing out that he has dropped off from last year.
Quote from: RiOtChEsS on December 21, 2015, 02:11:40 PM
http://espn.go.com/nba/story/_/id/14404850/klay-thompson-golden-state-warriors-names-best-shooting-guard-nba
He is top 5, what do you expect him to say.
3.2 3s per game on 43.7%
85.3% FT
19.3 points
Quote from: Holz on December 21, 2015, 02:52:46 PM
Quote from: RiOtChEsS on December 21, 2015, 02:11:40 PM
http://espn.go.com/nba/story/_/id/14404850/klay-thompson-golden-state-warriors-names-best-shooting-guard-nba
He is top 5, what do you expect him to say.
3.2 3s per game on 43.7%
85.3% FT
19.3 points
i expected him not to be delusional, my bad
Quote from: RiOtChEsS on December 21, 2015, 02:56:50 PM
Quote from: Holz on December 21, 2015, 02:52:46 PM
Quote from: RiOtChEsS on December 21, 2015, 02:11:40 PM
http://espn.go.com/nba/story/_/id/14404850/klay-thompson-golden-state-warriors-names-best-shooting-guard-nba
He is top 5, what do you expect him to say.
3.2 3s per game on 43.7%
85.3% FT
19.3 points
i expected him not to be delusional, my bad
Mate what do you think he's gonna say, 'Yeah I'm probably the third best SG in the league, tops'
Quote from: Jayman on December 21, 2015, 02:22:09 PM
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Toronto suck ass
Weeeeeeeeeeeeeee
Although they were 17-12 before this game
Sacramento are only 2 games out of the 8th seed. Ranked 9th in the west for point differential adjusted for strength of schedule, and 11th for net rating (offensive rating - opponent offensive rating), over their last 10 games they rank 9th in the west, ahead of teams like Memphis, Pelicans, Denver and Utah.
Not quite ready to say I think they'll get in, but they're certainly around the mark. Which is a big improvement on recent years.
The loss to the T'Wolves 2 days ago definitely hurt - I believe we should have won that but we played TERRIBLE.
We are definitely in the mix. I think we are either 9-9 or 9-10 since we started the season 1-7.
If we are in the mix for the 8 at the end of the season then I will be happy. I will be very happy if we make the 8.
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Quote from: RiOtChEsS on December 21, 2015, 02:56:50 PM
Quote from: Holz on December 21, 2015, 02:52:46 PM
Quote from: RiOtChEsS on December 21, 2015, 02:11:40 PM
http://espn.go.com/nba/story/_/id/14404850/klay-thompson-golden-state-warriors-names-best-shooting-guard-nba
He is top 5, what do you expect him to say.
3.2 3s per game on 43.7%
85.3% FT
19.3 points
i expected him not to be delusional, my bad
Mate what do you think he's gonna say, 'Yeah I'm probably the third best SG in the league, tops'
how about "theres a lot of great guys at SG, im happy to be considered amongst them"
not "im the best we're 26-1" dude you averaged 16ppg through the first 20 of those wins #jussayin
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Quote from: plumdog millionaire on December 21, 2015, 03:00:42 PM
Quote from: RiOtChEsS on December 21, 2015, 02:56:50 PM
Quote from: Holz on December 21, 2015, 02:52:46 PM
Quote from: RiOtChEsS on December 21, 2015, 02:11:40 PM
http://espn.go.com/nba/story/_/id/14404850/klay-thompson-golden-state-warriors-names-best-shooting-guard-nba
He is top 5, what do you expect him to say.
3.2 3s per game on 43.7%
85.3% FT
19.3 points
i expected him not to be delusional, my bad
Mate what do you think he's gonna say, 'Yeah I'm probably the third best SG in the league, tops'
how about "theres a lot of great guys at SG, im happy to be considered amongst them"
not "im the best we're 26-1" dude you averaged 16ppg through the first 20 of those wins #jussayin
There really aren't that many 'great' guys and Klay knows that
And after that? He feels as if he's in form so he has he right to say it. One thing you always hear about the best pro athletes is that they genuinely think they're the one of best, it's part of the mindset they need to have
Objectively, Klay probably isn't the best SG in the league but I think from his perspective there's nothing wrong with saying he is
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Quote from: RiOtChEsS on December 21, 2015, 03:06:35 PM
Quote from: plumdog millionaire on December 21, 2015, 03:00:42 PM
Quote from: RiOtChEsS on December 21, 2015, 02:56:50 PM
Quote from: Holz on December 21, 2015, 02:52:46 PM
Quote from: RiOtChEsS on December 21, 2015, 02:11:40 PM
http://espn.go.com/nba/story/_/id/14404850/klay-thompson-golden-state-warriors-names-best-shooting-guard-nba
He is top 5, what do you expect him to say.
3.2 3s per game on 43.7%
85.3% FT
19.3 points
i expected him not to be delusional, my bad
Mate what do you think he's gonna say, 'Yeah I'm probably the third best SG in the league, tops'
how about "theres a lot of great guys at SG, im happy to be considered amongst them"
not "im the best we're 26-1" dude you averaged 16ppg through the first 20 of those wins #jussayin
There really aren't that many 'great' guys and Klay knows that
And after that? He feels as if he's in form so he has he right to say it. One thing you always hear about the best pro athletes is that they genuinely think they're the one of best, it's part of the mindset they need to have
Objectively, Klay probably isn't the best SG in the league but I think from his perspective there's nothing wrong with saying he is
put me between Steph n Draymond's foundation and il average 16 :-X
he is good, but the best, sheeeesh ::)
I'm leaning more towards Riot on this one. There's no way Klay should even be in the same sentence as Harden or Butler, he should know that he still has lots of improving to do if he wants to get to that level. A rich man's Kyle Korver doesn't cut it.
Not saying he is at that level, but just that I don't think it is delusional for him to say it, as it is what a lot of good players would say and in the NBA it's important to have a high level of confidence even if it's inflated a bit.
Quote from: Jayman on December 21, 2015, 04:50:39 PM
I'm leaning more towards Riot on this one. There's no way Klay should even be in the same sentence as Harden or Butler, he should know that he still has lots of improving to do if he wants to get to that level. A rich man's Kyle Korver doesn't cut it.
not sure I agree.
Klay clearly the best shooter and he plays defense (unlike harden)
he isnt as good as those two but its not crazy talk. Its not Harrison Barnes saying we are 26-1 im the best SF in the league.
Agreed about Klay, he'd be another Danny Green level player without Curry on the team. Butler and Harden are going to dominate no matter what, I fail to see Klay doing the same thing on "any" team, thats the difference.
Speaking of AD, he only played 20mins today with flu like symptoms and put up 27pts with 9/13 FG's, 9/9 FT, 6rebs and 4blks. That is pure dominance in limited time, it was against Denver but they would've thrown 4-5 bigs at him wfor no avail. He missed the entire 2nd and 3rd quarters vomiting in the locker room, need a drip and fluids to get back on the court.
believing it and saying it publicly are two different things, the other two are shouldering the load of "the guy" for their teams
saying your the best at something when you aren't the best player on your team is ??? in fact on form he is the 3rd best player in GS
if Steph went down the team would win about 60% of their games
Quote from: jvalles69 on December 21, 2015, 05:48:42 PM
Agreed about Klay, he'd be another Danny Green level player without Curry on the team. Butler and Harden are going to dominate no matter what, I fail to see Klay doing the same thing on "any" team, thats the difference.
Speaking of AD, he only played 20mins today with flu like symptoms and put up 27pts with 9/13 FG's, 9/9 FT, 6rebs and 4blks. That is pure dominance in limited time, it was against Denver but they would've thrown 4-5 bigs at him wfor no avail. He missed the entire 2nd and 3rd quarters vomiting in the locker room, need a drip and fluids to get back on the court.
decent effort, he should get the flu more often.
Quote from: Holz on December 21, 2015, 05:53:32 PM
Quote from: jvalles69 on December 21, 2015, 05:48:42 PM
Agreed about Klay, he'd be another Danny Green level player without Curry on the team. Butler and Harden are going to dominate no matter what, I fail to see Klay doing the same thing on "any" team, thats the difference.
Speaking of AD, he only played 20mins today with flu like symptoms and put up 27pts with 9/13 FG's, 9/9 FT, 6rebs and 4blks. That is pure dominance in limited time, it was against Denver but they would've thrown 4-5 bigs at him wfor no avail. He missed the entire 2nd and 3rd quarters vomiting in the locker room, need a drip and fluids to get back on the court.
decent effort, he should get the flu more often.
And you know what, if he had've played a full game I would've won my fantasy matchup, he would've helped me take rebs, orebs, pts and ftm cats singlehandedly, but I lost my first matchup for the year cos he sat those 2 quarters...and I ain't even angry. To boot, my appt had Tyreke and Jrue, they loss of AD added up for them to go off tonight. :(
On a humbler note, this is what Whiteside said when asked if he wanted more minutes...
"Man, I was at the YMCA two years ago. I'm happy."
Played 38mins today, and dominated...this guy is getting paid!
Quote from: Jayman on December 21, 2015, 02:29:42 PM
I think one of my favourite players to watch of all-time, Manu Ginobili, is the 6th man of the year so far. Per 36 minutes, he's averaging 19.3 points @ 46%, 5.5 rebounds, 6.3 assists, 1.9 steals, with a PER of 20.5.
Pretty great for a 38 year old!
People were writing him off all of last season too. So good to see 8)
Quote from: Jayman on December 21, 2015, 04:50:39 PM
I'm leaning more towards Riot on this one. There's no way Klay should even be in the same sentence as Harden or Butler, he should know that he still has lots of improving to do if he wants to get to that level. A rich man's Kyle Korver doesn't cut it.
Haha, well said!
Still not as bad as Monta Ellis declaring the same thing a few years ago.
Quote from: jvalles69 on December 21, 2015, 06:43:02 PM
On a humbler note, this is what Whiteside said when asked if he wanted more minutes...
"Man, I was at the YMCA two years ago. I'm happy."
Played 38mins today, and dominated...this guy is getting paid!
love it 8)
thats it big call time.
Western Conference is over
Spurs (Leonard) just held Paul George to 7 points on 1-14 FG.
Nobody is beating that.
Quote from: jvalles69 on December 21, 2015, 06:43:02 PM
On a humbler note, this is what Whiteside said when asked if he wanted more minutes...
"Man, I was at the YMCA two years ago. I'm happy."
Played 38mins today, and dominated...this guy is getting paid!
Don't want to ruin the parade but he was in the D-League 2 years ago - not the YMCA -- 1 year after being cut by Sacramento. He was drafted by the Kings, held on the roster for 2 years and mainly played D-League (20 odd games for the Kings)
Quote from: valkorum on December 22, 2015, 05:21:09 PM
Quote from: jvalles69 on December 21, 2015, 06:43:02 PM
On a humbler note, this is what Whiteside said when asked if he wanted more minutes...
"Man, I was at the YMCA two years ago. I'm happy."
Played 38mins today, and dominated...this guy is getting paid!
Don't want to ruin the parade but he was in the D-League 2 years ago - not the YMCA -- 1 year after being cut by Sacramento. He was drafted by the Kings, held on the roster for 2 years and mainly played D-League (20 odd games for the Kings)
YMCA is basically saying he was playing ball in a gym...which is basically what the D-League is.
Quote from: jvalles69 on December 22, 2015, 05:32:13 PM
Quote from: valkorum on December 22, 2015, 05:21:09 PM
Quote from: jvalles69 on December 21, 2015, 06:43:02 PM
On a humbler note, this is what Whiteside said when asked if he wanted more minutes...
"Man, I was at the YMCA two years ago. I'm happy."
Played 38mins today, and dominated...this guy is getting paid!
Don't want to ruin the parade but he was in the D-League 2 years ago - not the YMCA -- 1 year after being cut by Sacramento. He was drafted by the Kings, held on the roster for 2 years and mainly played D-League (20 odd games for the Kings)
YMCA is basically saying he was playing ball in a gym...which is basically what the D-League is.
the interview i seen with him was after his first decent game for The Heat, said he was literally drinking in a carpark out the front of a seven eleven in his hometown one month ago, that was about mid season just gone
Quote from: Holz on December 22, 2015, 04:10:47 PM
thats it big call time.
Western Conference is over
Spurs (Leonard) just held Paul George to 7 points on 1-14 FG.
Nobody is beating that.
An absolute god. Real MVP candidate if Steph hadn't been on another level.
Quote from: jvalles69 on December 21, 2015, 06:43:02 PM
On a humbler note, this is what Whiteside said when asked if he wanted more minutes...
"Man, I was at the YMCA two years ago. I'm happy."
Played 38mins today, and dominated...this guy is getting paid!
Quote from: jvalles69 on December 21, 2015, 06:43:02 PM
On a humbler note, this is what Whiteside said when asked if he wanted more minutes...
"Man, I was at the YMCA two years ago. I'm happy."
Played 38mins today, and dominated...this guy is getting paid!
Very true. Which is why I won't be surprised if Miami move him. Can't pay a guy a max deal, when they already have Bosh who's best position is centre too. Spolestra hasn't been playing Whiteside down the stretch because there isn't enough floor spacing for Dragic/Wade to operate when Bosh + Whiteside play together. Miami are -3.1 points per 100 possessions when that combination share the court, which is the 2nd worst out of all their 2-man combinations to have played over 250 minutes. Compare that to when they go smaller with the Bosh and Winslow combination, which is a +11.6 points per 100 possessions.
Quote from: Holz on December 22, 2015, 04:10:47 PM
thats it big call time.
Western Conference is over
Spurs (Leonard) just held Paul George to 7 points on 1-14 FG.
Nobody is beating that.
You might be right Holz, they are playing on an insanely high level. Have been better than Golden State for a few weeks now imo, can't wait to see the playoff matchup. Not often do you have not one but two teams who are having historically great regular seasons.
Leonard is #2 MVP candidate I think.. Has become an elite offensive player, not to mention he's the reigning DPOY!
Quote from: Jayman on December 23, 2015, 11:38:03 AM
Quote from: Holz on December 22, 2015, 04:10:47 PM
thats it big call time.
Western Conference is over
Spurs (Leonard) just held Paul George to 7 points on 1-14 FG.
Nobody is beating that.
You might be right Holz, they are playing on an insanely high level. Have been better than Golden State for a few weeks now imo, can't wait to see the playoff matchup. Not often do you have not one but two teams who are having historically great regular seasons.
Leonard is #2 MVP candidate I think.. Has become an elite offensive player, not to mention he's the reigning DPOY!
And to think, Kawhi has never been an all-star! :o
Whiteside matched up against Drummond tonight, 16pts, 16rebs and 4blks to Drummonds 11pts, 12rebs and 2blks. Drummond was only 4/12 FG's awhilst Whiteside was 7/13 FG's. Tough matchup, but Whiteside is continually proving himself.
Young Aussie Simmons dominating the College Bball for LSU 8)
.............. Look out Dream Team :o
Quote from: tbagrocks on December 23, 2015, 05:43:17 PM
Young Aussie Simmons dominating the College Bball for LSU 8)
.............. Look out Dream Team :o
A few recruiters are worried about his jump shot ability as he isnt shooting from mid or long range. They still think he goes #1 but just a little worried about that.
Quote from: valkorum on December 23, 2015, 06:24:09 PM
Quote from: tbagrocks on December 23, 2015, 05:43:17 PM
Young Aussie Simmons dominating the College Bball for LSU 8)
.............. Look out Dream Team :o
A few recruiters are worried about his jump shot ability as he isnt shooting from mid or long range. They still think he goes #1 but just a little worried about that.
As long as he's on those breaks with Patty, Exam and Co. leave the shooting up to the shooters and play your game! Talking Boomers here only :P
Looks like he has a game that should be competitive in the NBA though, maybe he just doesn't need to shoot in that league? ???
Bulls are taking it up to the Thunder
OKC's game style is such a grind, for them to go all the way KD n RW need to be super duper stars
Jeff Van Gundy just stated his top 4 for the MVP would be...
Curry
Leonard
LeBron
Draymond :o
Hey JVG
(http://38.media.tumblr.com/4c9949290ee3033a4a869f301d07d6fe/tumblr_n2o29vO03B1rtpm86o1_250.gif) (http://33.media.tumblr.com/b3381ceed57cd842f65f9d1637a75f49/tumblr_n2o29vO03B1rtpm86o2_400.gif)
Curry out with a calf early on, here come The Cavs...
low scoring half, Curry looks a little sore
goin down to the wire...
LeBron James has this odd little step back, step forward hitch in his FT action now ??? aint workin either 1-4 in the clutch
Quote from: RiOtChEsS on December 26, 2015, 12:40:34 PM
LeBron James has this odd little step back, step forward hitch in his FT action now ??? aint workin either 1-4 in the clutch
Free throw shooting has really hurt the Cavs late :-X
Carn, other than a few passes out his arse, Curry couldn't be much worse lbh
But I generally enjoyed this matchup, Ervine was looking alright, LeBro tried to do too much, as usual
Bring on the finals 8)
Quote from: RiOtChEsS on December 26, 2015, 10:26:43 AM
Jeff Van Gundy just stated his top 4 for the MVP would be...
Curry
Leonard
LeBron
Draymond :o
Hey JVG
(http://38.media.tumblr.com/4c9949290ee3033a4a869f301d07d6fe/tumblr_n2o29vO03B1rtpm86o1_250.gif) (http://33.media.tumblr.com/b3381ceed57cd842f65f9d1637a75f49/tumblr_n2o29vO03B1rtpm86o2_400.gif)
I think he's right :o
http://sports.yahoo.com/news/mark-jackson-thinks-stephen-curry-is--hurting--basketball--warriors-don-t-agree-051804502.html
Wtf is he talking about!? Dude is just bitter that the team jumped to an all-time great and all they did was fire him. :-X
Quote from: Jayman on December 27, 2015, 01:52:07 PM
Quote from: RiOtChEsS on December 26, 2015, 10:26:43 AM
Jeff Van Gundy just stated his top 4 for the MVP would be...
Curry
Leonard
LeBron
Draymond :o
Hey JVG
(http://38.media.tumblr.com/4c9949290ee3033a4a869f301d07d6fe/tumblr_n2o29vO03B1rtpm86o1_250.gif) (http://33.media.tumblr.com/b3381ceed57cd842f65f9d1637a75f49/tumblr_n2o29vO03B1rtpm86o2_400.gif)
I think he's right :o
P.E.R
Westbrook 30.14
Draymond 19.21
Green does a lot but "c'mon man" we're comparing Batman's and Robin's...
Russell is goin at 25ppg 9apg 7rpg and 2.5spg
Green is goin at 14ppg 7apg 9rpg and Westbrook is shooting better percentages
all that said he is definitely in the top 10 for MVP voting but 4th ???
You're probably right, Riotchess. It is a bit silly to have Draymond above Westbrook.. I'll say he's 5th behind Curry, Kawhi, James and Russ. Purely because being the 2nd best player on a team that is 28-1 is still very impressive.
Quote from: Jayman on December 28, 2015, 02:17:25 PM
You're probably right, Riotchess. It is a bit silly to have Draymond above Westbrook.. I'll say he's 5th behind Curry, Kawhi, James and Russ. Purely because being the 2nd best player on a team that is 28-1 is still very impressive.
for me...
1. Curry
2. Kawhi
3. James
4. Westbrook
5. Harden
6. George
7. Green
8. Durant
9. AD
10. Wall
Quote from: Jayman on December 28, 2015, 02:17:25 PM
You're probably right, Riotchess. It is a bit silly to have Draymond above Westbrook.. I'll say he's 5th behind Curry, Kawhi, James and Russ. Purely because being the 2nd best player on a team that is 28-1 is still very impressive.
Klay Thompson might not agree with that call
I dont even have him near my top 10
Curry Kawhi James Westbrook Durrant Harden George Butler Cousins Drummond etc..
Klay is no where near the player that Draymond is, c'mon Holz.. He's one of the best defensive players in the league, can guard all 5 positions, and is such a unique offensive player in the fact he can shoot threes, run the offense, and crash the offensive glass.
Klay is an amazing shooter, but Green can do so much more.
Bad Celtics, bad!! >:(
Jah's shot looks off but that was a really good finish
No Curry and the Warriors get touched by 20+ against the Mavericks ;D
Klay 10pts ;D
Quote from: RiOtChEsS on December 31, 2015, 05:48:17 PM
No Curry and the Warriors get touched by 20+ against the Mavericks ;D
If that doesn't scream MVP, I'm not sure what does ;)
Quote from: Jayman on December 31, 2015, 02:22:56 PM
Bad Celtics, bad!! >:(
If the Celtics are bad, then the Kings are pathetic - we lost to the 76'ers
It's almost as if Boston don't want that Brooklyn unprotected pick to be as good as possible :P
Quote from: Toga on January 03, 2016, 01:18:14 PM
It's almost as if Boston don't want that Brooklyn unprotected pick to be as good as possible :P
This season is beyond frustrating :(
Quote from: Jayman on January 01, 2016, 02:01:31 AM
Quote from: RiOtChEsS on December 31, 2015, 05:48:17 PM
No Curry and the Warriors get touched by 20+ against the Mavericks ;D
If that doesn't scream MVP, I'm not sure what does ;)
exactly, im waitin' for the critics but im only hearin' crickets :P
Quote from: RiOtChEsS on January 04, 2016, 11:39:36 AM
Quote from: Jayman on January 01, 2016, 02:01:31 AM
Quote from: RiOtChEsS on December 31, 2015, 05:48:17 PM
No Curry and the Warriors get touched by 20+ against the Mavericks ;D
If that doesn't scream MVP, I'm not sure what does ;)
exactly, im waitin' for the critics but im only hearin' crickets :P
not really of course you are going to have a bad game when your main focal point who starts and finishes most offensive plays is out.
here we go it just shows how damaging losing your point guard is, given the warriors played teams without their point guards in every playoff series it further raises question marks about their championship last year.
take that crickets.
Quote from: Holz on January 04, 2016, 11:43:59 AM
Quote from: RiOtChEsS on January 04, 2016, 11:39:36 AM
Quote from: Jayman on January 01, 2016, 02:01:31 AM
Quote from: RiOtChEsS on December 31, 2015, 05:48:17 PM
No Curry and the Warriors get touched by 20+ against the Mavericks ;D
If that doesn't scream MVP, I'm not sure what does ;)
exactly, im waitin' for the critics but im only hearin' crickets :P
not really of course you are going to have a bad game when your main focal point who starts and finishes most offensive plays is out.
here we go it just shows how damaging losing your point guard is, given the warriors played teams without their point guards in every playoff series it further raises question marks about their championship last year.
take that crickets.
(https://theemptymindofrene.files.wordpress.com/2014/02/nelson.jpg)
Draymond's stats in yesterday's game where Steph was out... 29 points on 10-16 shooting, 5-9 threes, 17 rebounds, 14 assists, 4 steals, 1 block and plus/minus of +18 (and they only won by 3...)
http://bkref.com/tiny/UYr7i
Draymond's stats this season... 15.1 points, 9.3 rebounds, 7.4 assists, 1.6 threes. Only one player has ever had a season putting up those numbers or better. Take a guess who that is...
Point is, Draymond is a completely unique player who deserves every bit of praise that he gets ;)
Quote from: Jayman on January 04, 2016, 04:33:01 PM
Draymond's stats in yesterday's game where Steph was out... 29 points on 10-16 shooting, 5-9 threes, 17 rebounds, 14 assists, 4 steals, 1 block and plus/minus of +18 (and they only won by 3...)
http://bkref.com/tiny/UYr7i
Draymond's stats this season... 15.1 points, 9.3 rebounds, 7.4 assists, 1.6 threes. Only one player has ever had a season putting up those numbers or better. Take a guess who that is...
Point is, Draymond is a completely unique player who deserves every bit of praise that he gets ;)
yeah since Curry has been out he has clearly taken on the mantle of "the man" for that team
The answer was Larry Bird in case anyone was wondering :P
Really enjoyed the NBA TV game today, D-Wade has still got some moves.
By the way, SAC are coming for that 8 seed!
D-Wade was impressive today!
https://thecauldron.si.com/because-i-m-not-through-with-this-game-yet-that-s-why-c04382612e71#.v2guw7cgz
6'ers have also won 3/6 since they traded for Ish. You put Simmons in as a floor general next year with Saric, JoJo and a couple other firsts they will make a huge jump.
Noel has been huge since the trade
Grant has continued to improve and has been really, really good
Holmes was massive against the Wolves
Stauskas has been pretty good defensively but streaky offensively, he is making plays though on both ends of the court, he just needs to get some consistency in the shot
TJ is making some plays and showing he might be a rotational player down the track and not just D-League fodder.
Jah is working back in from the injury and he has shown what he can do.
Covington has been struggling but the guy has shown he can be a productive NBA player.
I mean the improvement has come because they have Ish Smith running the point, Ish fricken Smith. A quality PG or distributor like Simmons and this tank will pay off
I forgot to post this as well
(http://i.imgur.com/u1xuZyJ.jpg)
The guy is a moron. Not only is he a moron, he was taking shots at a guy that ended up shooting 6-8 from outside in that game and was probably having he's second best game of the season. What's with Philly and the psycho parents?
Quote from: Jayman on January 05, 2016, 04:34:24 PM
By the way, SAC are coming for that 8 seed!
I would be ecstatic if we could make the 8th seed. Dallas today and then Lakers on Friday (our time). If we could win both of those games that would be fantastic.
Knowing how we are playing we will probably beat Dallas and then capitulate against the Lakers.
Another chance to watch future Aussie Boomer and Olympic superstar, Ben Simmons today in the Southeastern Conference for LSU 8)
Gotta luv ESPN 8)
What a great play drawn up by George Karl. Got Bellinelli a 3 which has tied the game up at 96 with 13 seconds to go. Nice comeback here by the Kings.
D-WILL! Timeout Sacramento with 2 seconds to go, down by two points.
BOOGIE!!!! Another great play call. Going to overtime
Dirk taking over late in OT. Still tied up though.
Double OT :o
Kings were up 7 in 2OT, and lose by 2 on a Deron Williams buzzer beater three :o
Quote from: Jayman on January 06, 2016, 04:27:20 PM
Kings were up 7 in 2OT, and lose by 2 on a Deron Williams buzzer beater three :o
Only lost by 1 (not 2)
It shouldnt have gone to the double overtime, Dirk used his forearm (to the face) of Darren Collison to clear space and then nailed the jumper.
Crazy game. One of the guys I work with is a Mavs fan so we loaded up NBA League pass and watched both overtimes. Now I have to do overtime to make up the hour :)
Quote from: valkorum on January 06, 2016, 05:23:12 PM
Quote from: Jayman on January 06, 2016, 04:27:20 PM
Kings were up 7 in 2OT, and lose by 2 on a Deron Williams buzzer beater three :o
Only lost by 1 (not 2)
It shouldnt have gone to the double overtime, Dirk used his forearm (to the face) of Darren Collison to clear space and then nailed the jumper.
Crazy game. One of the guys I work with is a Mavs fan so we loaded up NBA League pass and watched both overtimes. Now I have to do overtime to make up the hour :)
I thought it was clean in real-time, but didn't see a replay. Looked like Collison just wasn't big enough to body up with Dirk. 0% chance he was going to miss the jumper once he got that separation.
Forearm under the chin and pushed through him. He prob still went down a little too easy but it was a foul every day of the week and twice on Sundays. What didn't help was Collison flopped on the play before so that was prob still fresh in the minds of the umpire.
All aboard the hype train
Ben Simmons being compared to Lebron and Magic
however if we kept Irving Australia would be looking deadly. Too guard heavy though
Dante Exum
Patty Mills
Kyrie Irving
Ben Simmonds
Andrew Bogut
Matthew Deladova
definitely a small ball team
Just let it go, we will never have Irving play for Australia
1: Dellavedova/Gibson
2: Mills/Exum/Goulding
3: Simmons/Ingles
4: Baynes/Bairstow/Anderson
5: Bogut/Jawaii
That's still a pretty damn good team.
Great comeback win for Detroit there
Quote from: valkorum on January 07, 2016, 01:03:26 PM
Just let it go, we will never have Irving play for Australia
1: Dellavedova/Gibson
2: Mills/Exum/Goulding
3: Simmons/Ingles
4: Baynes/Bairstow/Anderson
5: Bogut/Jawaii
That's still a pretty damn good team.
Big Thon maker not getting a look in???
Quote from: valkorum on January 07, 2016, 01:03:26 PM
Just let it go, we will never have Irving play for Australia
1: Dellavedova/Gibson
2: Mills/Exum/Goulding
3: Simmons/Ingles
4: Baynes/Bairstow/Anderson
5: Bogut/Jawaii
That's still a pretty damn good team.
I cant
Uncle Drew is my second favorite player after the King.
Thom Maker looked terrible for a while but not looking good again. Needs to keep hitting the gym but looks good.
Fun fact
without looking it up, who is the best 3 point shooter in the nba?
Who is almost on his way to a 50 90 50 season? if he just improves his FT%
Quote from: Jayman on January 07, 2016, 04:41:33 PM
Quote from: Toga on January 07, 2016, 03:04:24 PM
Great comeback win for Detroit there
:(
Knew you wouldn't be happy about it Jay :( Just fell apart in that last quarter
Spurs v Cavs final book it
5 straight for the Cavs who are now rolling with irving
Lebron Irving combine for 66 off 44 shots. Very very scary
John Wall you just got proven why Irving All star over you was correct, despite me rating wall right up there.
Quote from: The_Captain on January 07, 2016, 03:20:34 PM
Quote from: valkorum on January 07, 2016, 01:03:26 PM
Just let it go, we will never have Irving play for Australia
1: Dellavedova/Gibson
2: Mills/Exum/Goulding
3: Simmons/Ingles
4: Baynes/Bairstow/Anderson
5: Bogut/Jawaii
That's still a pretty damn good team.
Big Thon maker not getting a look in???
Not sure he is strong enough to handle international basketball yet.
Quote from: valkorum on January 07, 2016, 07:24:57 PM
Quote from: The_Captain on January 07, 2016, 03:20:34 PM
Quote from: valkorum on January 07, 2016, 01:03:26 PM
Just let it go, we will never have Irving play for Australia
1: Dellavedova/Gibson
2: Mills/Exum/Goulding
3: Simmons/Ingles
4: Baynes/Bairstow/Anderson
5: Bogut/Jawaii
That's still a pretty damn good team.
Big Thon maker not getting a look in???
Not sure he is strong enough to handle international basketball yet.
Yeah got the talent, but needs to eat some more for sure! Still, potential to get a medal there!
Quote from: Holz on January 07, 2016, 04:54:38 PM
Fun fact
without looking it up, who is the best 3 point shooter in the nba?
Who is almost on his way to a 50 90 50 season? if he just improves his FT%
Is it my man Kawhi Leonard? Pair those shooting numbers with being the clear #1 defensive player in the league and you have an absolute superstar.
I think I'm close to agreeing with Holz on it being a Cavs vs Spurs finals. I think this might just be the best San Antonio team ever.
Quote from: Jayman on January 07, 2016, 11:09:50 PM
Quote from: Holz on January 07, 2016, 04:54:38 PM
Fun fact
without looking it up, who is the best 3 point shooter in the nba?
Who is almost on his way to a 50 90 50 season? if he just improves his FT%
Is it my man Kawhi Leonard? Pair those shooting numbers with being the clear #1 defensive player in the league and you have an absolute superstar.
I think I'm close to agreeing with Holz on it being a Cavs vs Spurs finals. I think this might just be the best San Antonio team ever.
Your partly right it is Kawhi but he is my man :P
Spurs have have 7 players averaging 7 shots a night. All but Kawhi arent playing big minutes including aldridge. they have lost 6 games and are on cruise control. GSW going full cylinders and are barely ahead. Spurs can take it up another 4-5 gears, warriors might decline from here on out.
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im still slightly worried about the thunder, besides that im locking it in.
Im tipping Spurs over cavs in 7
you guys know the finals are 6 months away right? #injurieshappen
Quote from: RiOtChEsS on January 08, 2016, 01:49:24 AM
you guys know the finals are 6 months away right? #injurieshappen
injuries do happen thats how 2015 occured. but no way its happening like that again
Quote from: Holz on January 08, 2016, 10:36:48 AM
Quote from: RiOtChEsS on January 08, 2016, 01:49:24 AM
you guys know the finals are 6 months away right? #injurieshappen
injuries do happen thats how 2015 occured. but no way its happening like that again
you just never know...
Kyrie could go down easily as his history has shown
Curry has had a great run with his ankles but they still make me nervous
Wade's legs, CP3's hammies, Blake's knees, KD's foot, Westbrook's knees...
whoever is healthy in April and building momentum will be the team to beat
Quote from: RiOtChEsS on January 08, 2016, 02:45:32 PM
Quote from: Holz on January 08, 2016, 10:36:48 AM
Quote from: RiOtChEsS on January 08, 2016, 01:49:24 AM
you guys know the finals are 6 months away right? #injurieshappen
injuries do happen thats how 2015 occured. but no way its happening like that again
you just never know...
Kyrie could go down easily as his history has shown
Curry has had a great run with his ankles but they still make me nervous
Wade's legs, CP3's hammies, Blake's knees, KD's foot, Westbrook's knees...
whoever is healthy in April and building momentum will be the team to beat
well injuries could stop spurs and cavs im just saying no warriors title
Quote from: Holz on January 08, 2016, 03:38:32 PM
Quote from: RiOtChEsS on January 08, 2016, 02:45:32 PM
Quote from: Holz on January 08, 2016, 10:36:48 AM
Quote from: RiOtChEsS on January 08, 2016, 01:49:24 AM
you guys know the finals are 6 months away right? #injurieshappen
injuries do happen thats how 2015 occured. but no way its happening like that again
you just never know...
Kyrie could go down easily as his history has shown
Curry has had a great run with his ankles but they still make me nervous
Wade's legs, CP3's hammies, Blake's knees, KD's foot, Westbrook's knees...
whoever is healthy in April and building momentum will be the team to beat
well injuries could stop spurs and cavs im just saying no warriors title
back to back is pretty hard to do
if they limit the minutes of Curry, Green and Klay in late march through april i think they will playoff in the WCF
Quote from: RiOtChEsS on January 08, 2016, 01:49:24 AM
you guys know the finals are 6 months away right? #injurieshappen
True, but that doesn't worry me about the Spurs. They have so much depth, that even with a major injury, they can still win the title. Helps they have mastered the regular season too, don't play their guys too many minutes.
While GSW are going all out for 73-9, the Spurs will be rested and set for the post-season.
Quote from: Jayman on January 08, 2016, 05:23:37 PM
Quote from: RiOtChEsS on January 08, 2016, 01:49:24 AM
you guys know the finals are 6 months away right? #injurieshappen
True, but that doesn't worry me about the Spurs. They have so much depth, that even with a major injury, they can still win the title. Helps they have mastered the regular season too, don't play their guys too many minutes.
While GSW are going all out for 73-9, the Spurs will be rested and set for the post-season.
great stat today. Even with Parker and Aldridge out so two usual bench players were starters.The bench outscored the jazz 70-48 to bring the bench scoring to 40.6 a game or 39.2% of the teams points.
Quote from: Holz on January 08, 2016, 05:51:19 PM
Quote from: Jayman on January 08, 2016, 05:23:37 PM
Quote from: RiOtChEsS on January 08, 2016, 01:49:24 AM
you guys know the finals are 6 months away right? #injurieshappen
True, but that doesn't worry me about the Spurs. They have so much depth, that even with a major injury, they can still win the title. Helps they have mastered the regular season too, don't play their guys too many minutes.
While GSW are going all out for 73-9, the Spurs will be rested and set for the post-season.
great stat today. Even with Parker and Aldridge out so two usual bench players were starters.The bench outscored the jazz 70-48 to bring the bench scoring to 40.6 a game or 39.2% of the teams points.
so if Kawhi goes down you still have them?
Quote from: RiOtChEsS on January 08, 2016, 10:16:02 PM
Quote from: Holz on January 08, 2016, 05:51:19 PM
Quote from: Jayman on January 08, 2016, 05:23:37 PM
Quote from: RiOtChEsS on January 08, 2016, 01:49:24 AM
you guys know the finals are 6 months away right? #injurieshappen
True, but that doesn't worry me about the Spurs. They have so much depth, that even with a major injury, they can still win the title. Helps they have mastered the regular season too, don't play their guys too many minutes.
While GSW are going all out for 73-9, the Spurs will be rested and set for the post-season.
great stat today. Even with Parker and Aldridge out so two usual bench players were starters.The bench outscored the jazz 70-48 to bring the bench scoring to 40.6 a game or 39.2% of the teams points.
so if Kawhi goes down you still have them?
Maybe not Kawhi, but if it's anyone else who goes down, I still give them a reasonable chance.
Do any of you guys have recommendations for books about NBA or basketball in general? Excluding The Book of Basketball by Simmons
Quote from: plumdog millionaire on January 08, 2016, 11:22:34 PM
Do any of you guys have recommendations for books about NBA or basketball in general? Excluding The Book of Basketball by Simmons
They call me coach - by John Wooden
Quote from: valkorum on January 09, 2016, 03:00:56 AM
Quote from: plumdog millionaire on January 08, 2016, 11:22:34 PM
Do any of you guys have recommendations for books about NBA or basketball in general? Excluding The Book of Basketball by Simmons
They call me coach - by John Wooden
Thanks mate, was definitely looking at that and it piqued my interest as it seems like the number 1 book to read for coaches
How did Westbrook miss that wide open dunk?
Lou Williams went nuts in that last quarter. And then to tie the game they went to Kobe who wasted 10 seconds and missed crying for the foul.
Quote from: plumdog millionaire on January 09, 2016, 09:09:27 AM
Quote from: valkorum on January 09, 2016, 03:00:56 AM
Quote from: plumdog millionaire on January 08, 2016, 11:22:34 PM
Do any of you guys have recommendations for books about NBA or basketball in general? Excluding The Book of Basketball by Simmons
They call me coach - by John Wooden
Thanks mate, was definitely looking at that and it piqued my interest as it seems like the number 1 book to read for coaches
Dennis Rodman- Bad As I Wanna Be if you can coach him you will be able to coach anybody :D seriously though it is a good read
The last two weeks of Celtics basketball has deeply hurt me. David Lee, please pack up your bags and leave us alone :(
So um flower the Thunder they cost me a huge multi. I worked night shift so I was tired and turned the game off with 4 minutes to go. I just woke up and saw the results... WTF?
Quote from: R.Griffen on January 11, 2016, 08:23:48 PM
So um flower the Thunder they cost me a huge multi. I worked night shift so I was tired and turned the game off with 4 minutes to go. I just woke up and saw the results... WTF?
Was on NBA TV so I'll watch it later tonight, from what I heard though Lillard just caught fire..
Quote from: Jayman on January 11, 2016, 09:17:15 PM
Quote from: R.Griffen on January 11, 2016, 08:23:48 PM
So um flower the Thunder they cost me a huge multi. I worked night shift so I was tired and turned the game off with 4 minutes to go. I just woke up and saw the results... WTF?
Was on NBA TV so I'll watch it later tonight, from what I heard though Lillard just caught fire..
yep cost me my 5 leg to, only leg that failed, scored 17 of the Blazers last 20 apparently
Only thing getting me through this Celtics season :-\
http://www.tankathon.com/power_rankings
Score alert. Warriors down 7 with 3:30 to go.
Draymond not playing
Warriors cut it to 2, but Steph turned it over :o
Denver went up 4, but Klay hit a catch and shoot to cut it to 1. Denver ball.
Thompson missed buzzer beater. Denver win by 2
Curry was incredible in the fourth, but not having Draymond is tough.
just goes to show what happens when you lose your second best player
lose one guy and you go down to a sub 500 team.
imagine losing your second and third best guy and still taking it to a 6 game series :P
(http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-DXdlBF2-uVI/Vc6bcuULr-I/AAAAAAAAGYk/nFVlFXBQKCQ/s640/CAVALIERS%2Bvs%2BSPURS%2B2016NBA%2BFinals.jpg)
its on tomorrow.
its time for the real big boys to play
Quote from: Holz on January 14, 2016, 05:02:03 PM
just goes to show what happens when you lose your second best player
lose one guy and you go down to a sub 500 team.
imagine losing your second and third best guy and still taking it to a 6 game series :P
pfffffffffffffffffffffffft it was one turnover ;D
Quote from: RiOtChEsS on January 14, 2016, 05:04:49 PM
Quote from: Holz on January 14, 2016, 05:02:03 PM
just goes to show what happens when you lose your second best player
lose one guy and you go down to a sub 500 team.
imagine losing your second and third best guy and still taking it to a 6 game series :P
pfffffffffffffffffffffffft it was one turnover ;D
it was Denver.
Quote from: Holz on January 14, 2016, 05:06:50 PM
Quote from: RiOtChEsS on January 14, 2016, 05:04:49 PM
Quote from: Holz on January 14, 2016, 05:02:03 PM
just goes to show what happens when you lose your second best player
lose one guy and you go down to a sub 500 team.
imagine losing your second and third best guy and still taking it to a 6 game series :P
pfffffffffffffffffffffffft it was one turnover ;D
it was Denver.
36 and 3
Quote from: RiOtChEsS on January 14, 2016, 05:33:18 PM
Quote from: Holz on January 14, 2016, 05:06:50 PM
Quote from: RiOtChEsS on January 14, 2016, 05:04:49 PM
Quote from: Holz on January 14, 2016, 05:02:03 PM
just goes to show what happens when you lose your second best player
lose one guy and you go down to a sub 500 team.
imagine losing your second and third best guy and still taking it to a 6 game series :P
pfffffffffffffffffffffffft it was one turnover ;D
it was Denver.
36 and 3
34 and 6 while resting basically all your players bar 1.
Minutes:
Leonard 33.1
Aldridge 29.8
Duncan 26
Parker 27.1
Green 25.5
Average 28.3
Curry 34
Thompson 33.2
Green 34.0
Barnes 28.7
Iggy 28
Average 31.58
thats doesnt take into account that they actually miss whole games resting along with playing less minutes in each game.
Quote from: Holz on January 14, 2016, 05:49:19 PM
Quote from: RiOtChEsS on January 14, 2016, 05:33:18 PM
Quote from: Holz on January 14, 2016, 05:06:50 PM
Quote from: RiOtChEsS on January 14, 2016, 05:04:49 PM
Quote from: Holz on January 14, 2016, 05:02:03 PM
just goes to show what happens when you lose your second best player
lose one guy and you go down to a sub 500 team.
imagine losing your second and third best guy and still taking it to a 6 game series :P
pfffffffffffffffffffffffft it was one turnover ;D
it was Denver.
36 and 3
34 and 6 while resting basically all your players bar 1.
Minutes:
Leonard 33.1
Aldridge 29.8
Duncan 26
Parker 27.1
Green 25.5
Average 28.3
Curry 34
Thompson 33.2
Green 34.0
Barnes 28.7
Iggy 28
Average 31.58
thats doesnt take into account that they actually miss whole games resting along with playing less minutes in each game.
not sure if hating on Warriors or just got a boner for the Spurs, either way its a stretch from one Curry turnover...
Quote from: RiOtChEsS on January 15, 2016, 02:00:56 AM
Quote from: Holz on January 14, 2016, 05:49:19 PM
Quote from: RiOtChEsS on January 14, 2016, 05:33:18 PM
Quote from: Holz on January 14, 2016, 05:06:50 PM
Quote from: RiOtChEsS on January 14, 2016, 05:04:49 PM
Quote from: Holz on January 14, 2016, 05:02:03 PM
just goes to show what happens when you lose your second best player
lose one guy and you go down to a sub 500 team.
imagine losing your second and third best guy and still taking it to a 6 game series :P
pfffffffffffffffffffffffft it was one turnover ;D
it was Denver.
36 and 3
34 and 6 while resting basically all your players bar 1.
Minutes:
Leonard 33.1
Aldridge 29.8
Duncan 26
Parker 27.1
Green 25.5
Average 28.3
Curry 34
Thompson 33.2
Green 34.0
Barnes 28.7
Iggy 28
Average 31.58
thats doesnt take into account that they actually miss whole games resting along with playing less minutes in each game.
not sure if hating on Warriors or just got a boner for the Spurs, either way its a stretch from one Curry turnover...
Im not a spurs fan by the way in fact given im a lebron fan its exactly who i dont want to see in the finals. I really want the warriors actually as that would bring up Lebrons 3rd championship.
Warriors just overrated and Spurs underrated (as always).
Logic like this is the reason the warriors still have that 'nobody believes in us' motivation
Quote from: plumdog millionaire on January 15, 2016, 11:52:58 AM
Logic like this is the reason the warriors still have that 'nobody believes in us' motivation
they can have it all they want. when they lose, wait for the I told you so.
If the warriors win this year then i will accept that they are the real deal and could be a championship dynasty.
going hard to seemingly prove something in the regualr season is not the right way to go about it. Spurs are always elite, because they know they dont have anything to prove till playoffs.
You can have it both ways IMO. The Spurs and Warriors the elite teams with maybe the Spurs a bit better at this moment, but GSW are doing it without their head coach
The Spurs are slightly better in my opinion, but GSW are still 36-3 ::)
Impressive win by the Spurs. Takes them to 23-0 at home, and marks their 6th straight season where they've had a 10 game winning streak.
Spurs v GSW can't come soon enough.
playoffs aren't right now ;)
now is basically irrelevant, check back in April/May :-X
Yeah true, Spurs are notoriously bad at managing their players. Don't think they have adequate playoff experience to really compete either.
Quote from: My Chumps on January 16, 2016, 02:46:54 PM
Yeah true, Spurs are notoriously bad at managing their players. Don't think they have adequate playoff experience to really compete either.
;D ;D ;D nice one :P
the point im getting at is that right now doesn't matter for those 2 teams, ideally they would like to wrap both teams in cotton wool so both are 100% healthy heading into playoffs, they can't, so until that time we're just guessing as to who wins, injuries happen and if either team had even a minor calf strain/hamstring in April to 1 of their top 3 players it's going to shake things up ;)
The Cavs just cannot beat Golden State.
RIP Holz
Quote from: plumdog millionaire on January 19, 2016, 03:02:41 PM
RIP Holz
last I checked it was still the regular season. have said numerous time warriors are the best regular season team in the NBA. Cavs wont have to worry about them in the playoffs anyway as they wont make it to the final. Even then I would have Cavs in 6 or 7.
Don't see it. Warriors have the advantage at all but one of the matchups and Iggy-LeBron isn't enough to make up for it. Would be surprised if Love played more than 15 minutes in a potential series, and Irving cannot defend Steph close to well enough
Quote from: Holz on January 19, 2016, 04:55:53 PM
Quote from: plumdog millionaire on January 19, 2016, 03:02:41 PM
RIP Holz
last I checked it was still the regular season. have said numerous time warriors are the best regular season team in the NBA. Cavs wont have to worry about them in the playoffs anyway as they wont make it to the final. Even then I would have Cavs in 6 or 7.
If the Cavs beat Golden state in a 7 game series, I'll change my display picture to this for a month.
(http://static5.businessinsider.com/image/51c440096bb3f7473f000000/lebron-james-gives-epic-speech-after-winning-nba-finals-mvp.jpg)
Quote from: plumdog millionaire on January 19, 2016, 05:14:39 PM
Don't see it. Warriors have the advantage at all but one of the matchups and Iggy-LeBron isn't enough to make up for it. Would be surprised if Love played more than 15 minutes in a potential series, and Irving cannot defend Steph close to well enough
not sure Curry has that much on Irving. Irving probably cant stop Curry, but not sure curry can stop a hot irving. Also It wouldnt be irving on curry anyway.
remember the cavs are the number 2 defensive team in the NBA.
bigger difference in Iggy Lebron then Curry Irving.
wont be important though as spurs should take them out anyway. Spurs I would say would be the much much harder matchup v the cavs just because Leonard v James matchup.
nobody on the Warriors and in the NBA can stop Lebron except for Leonard.
Quote from: Holz on January 19, 2016, 05:19:16 PM
Quote from: plumdog millionaire on January 19, 2016, 05:14:39 PM
Don't see it. Warriors have the advantage at all but one of the matchups and Iggy-LeBron isn't enough to make up for it. Would be surprised if Love played more than 15 minutes in a potential series, and Irving cannot defend Steph close to well enough
not sure Curry has that much on Irving. Irving probably cant stop Curry, but not sure curry can stop a hot irving. Also It wouldnt be irving on curry anyway.
remember the cavs are the number 2 defensive team in the NBA.
bigger difference in Iggy Lebron then Curry Irving.
wont be important though as spurs should take them out anyway. Spurs I would say would be the much much harder matchup v the cavs just because Leonard v James matchup.
nobody on the Warriors and in the NBA can stop Lebron except for Leonard.
LeBron shot 39.8% in the finals last year.
Quote from: Jayman on January 19, 2016, 05:36:03 PM
Quote from: Holz on January 19, 2016, 05:19:16 PM
Quote from: plumdog millionaire on January 19, 2016, 05:14:39 PM
Don't see it. Warriors have the advantage at all but one of the matchups and Iggy-LeBron isn't enough to make up for it. Would be surprised if Love played more than 15 minutes in a potential series, and Irving cannot defend Steph close to well enough
not sure Curry has that much on Irving. Irving probably cant stop Curry, but not sure curry can stop a hot irving. Also It wouldnt be irving on curry anyway.
remember the cavs are the number 2 defensive team in the NBA.
bigger difference in Iggy Lebron then Curry Irving.
wont be important though as spurs should take them out anyway. Spurs I would say would be the much much harder matchup v the cavs just because Leonard v James matchup.
nobody on the Warriors and in the NBA can stop Lebron except for Leonard.
LeBron shot 39.8% in the finals last year.
you have a lower percentage when your 2nd and 3rd options are out and you have to completely change your game style with your opponent knowing that you will shoot and can double and triple team you.
he did score 35.8 points, thats not getting stopped. Especially with 13.3 RPG and 8.8 APG thats just insane. was the clear MVP of the series.
when you get the most rebounds, points and assists on both teams then you are pretty special.
You probably will be proven wrong Holz, but I'll give you this - props to you for sticking to your guns regardless.
Quote from: plumdog millionaire on January 19, 2016, 05:51:32 PM
You probably will be proven wrong Holz, but I'll give you this - props to you for sticking to your guns regardless.
do you think the warriors will make it past the spurs though?
im tipping we wont see a cavs warriors rematch so we wont even get to see who would have won.
im going to stick to my guns unless warriors win this year. If they do I will 100% give credit to them and concede that they are one of the great teams.
Quote from: Holz on January 19, 2016, 06:00:05 PM
Quote from: plumdog millionaire on January 19, 2016, 05:51:32 PM
You probably will be proven wrong Holz, but I'll give you this - props to you for sticking to your guns regardless.
do you think the warriors will make it past the spurs though?
im tipping we wont see a cavs warriors rematch so we wont even get to see who would have won.
im going to stick to my guns unless warriors win this year. If they do I will 100% give credit to them and concede that they are one of the great teams.
I don't think it's as out of the question as you say it is. A WCF of Spurs-Warriors could end up being the real finals and one of the best conference finals ever the way things are going right now... Absolutely cannot wait!
Quote from: Jayman on January 19, 2016, 05:15:54 PM
Quote from: Holz on January 19, 2016, 04:55:53 PM
Quote from: plumdog millionaire on January 19, 2016, 03:02:41 PM
RIP Holz
last I checked it was still the regular season. have said numerous time warriors are the best regular season team in the NBA. Cavs wont have to worry about them in the playoffs anyway as they wont make it to the final. Even then I would have Cavs in 6 or 7.
If the Cavs beat Golden state in a 7 game series, I'll change my display picture to this for a month.
(http://static5.businessinsider.com/image/51c440096bb3f7473f000000/lebron-james-gives-epic-speech-after-winning-nba-finals-mvp.jpg)
for a year ;)
i heard it was gonna be different with Love and Irving healthy ;D
Dwight Howard been seriously ballin recently!
26 boards to go with 36 points today in OT :o
Quote from: RiOtChEsS on January 19, 2016, 07:34:32 PM
Quote from: Jayman on January 19, 2016, 05:15:54 PM
Quote from: Holz on January 19, 2016, 04:55:53 PM
Quote from: plumdog millionaire on January 19, 2016, 03:02:41 PM
RIP Holz
last I checked it was still the regular season. have said numerous time warriors are the best regular season team in the NBA. Cavs wont have to worry about them in the playoffs anyway as they wont make it to the final. Even then I would have Cavs in 6 or 7.
If the Cavs beat Golden state in a 7 game series, I'll change my display picture to this for a month.
(http://static5.businessinsider.com/image/51c440096bb3f7473f000000/lebron-james-gives-epic-speech-after-winning-nba-finals-mvp.jpg)
for a year ;)
i heard it was gonna be different with Love and Irving healthy ;D
Geez I really hope warriors make it to thr finals now. Added incentive on top of being the easier opponent compared to Spurs
Are you saying the series has to go to 7
What if cavs win in 6 5 or 4 :P
They should just change the way the playoffs work until the east can scramble together some decent teams. Would much rather see the cavs actually battling good teams like OKC, GS, Spurs, Clippers to get to the finals
Quote from: quinny88 on January 21, 2016, 07:55:57 PM
They should just change the way the playoffs work until the east can scramble together some decent teams. Would much rather see the cavs actually battling good teams like OKC, GS, Spurs, Clippers to get to the finals
Granted the top of the East is weak after cavs but 4-10 is arguably as strong in rhe east or stronger
Quote from: Holz on January 21, 2016, 08:59:58 PM
Quote from: quinny88 on January 21, 2016, 07:55:57 PM
They should just change the way the playoffs work until the east can scramble together some decent teams. Would much rather see the cavs actually battling good teams like OKC, GS, Spurs, Clippers to get to the finals
Granted the top of the East is weak after cavs but 4-10 is arguably as strong in rhe east or stronger
Yeah this year is particularly bad in that middle bracket in the west. Thought Grizzlies and Rockets would be better
@Jayman
Saw this "speculation" article about trades for Miami... and this one included the Celtics. Interesting option IMO
http://fansided.com/2016/01/21/nba-trade-rumors-5-trades-miami-heat-need-make/5/
Quote from: valkorum on January 22, 2016, 12:10:40 PM
@Jayman
Saw this "speculation" article about trades for Miami... and this one included the Celtics. Interesting option IMO
http://fansided.com/2016/01/21/nba-trade-rumors-5-trades-miami-heat-need-make/5/
Interesting, but I'd decline. Whiteside is going to want a max deal this off-season, and I don't think Boston will want to give him that - which is understandable, the dude was out of the NBA a couple of years ago. And yes he's had a great last 12 months, but I wouldn't give up multiple assets to get him.
Tough one though.. I could understand if Boston did accept that, we're getting desperate for an all-star calibre player and aren't far away from taking a big risk.
Kings WIN against Hawks and hold on to 8th spot in the West... OH YEH!!!!
Quote from: valkorum on January 22, 2016, 05:34:46 PM
Kings WIN against Hawks and hold on to 8th spot in the West... OH YEH!!!!
Rondooooo!
Cavs fire Blatt lolololol paying coaches that dont coach for like another 6 years pmsl
Quote from: RiOtChEsS on January 23, 2016, 09:58:30 AM
Cavs fire Blatt lolololol paying coaches that dont coach for like another 6 years pmsl
Horrible organisation. Blatt is a fine coach
http://sports.yahoo.com/news/how-david-blatt-never-stood-a-chance-with-lebron-james-and-his-camp-035612484.html
Jsmoove heading back to the rockets
Quote from: Mat0369 on January 23, 2016, 04:57:38 PM
http://sports.yahoo.com/news/how-david-blatt-never-stood-a-chance-with-lebron-james-and-his-camp-035612484.html
The real cock up is hiring this guy before you knew the then best player in the world wanted to play for you, the owner has his head so far up his own ass he doesn't even understand how to run a team, that hiring was way to early, from memory it was before free agency started, it was a candidate that nobody else was going to hire, what was the hurry?
Quote from: Jayman on January 23, 2016, 11:29:46 AM
Quote from: RiOtChEsS on January 23, 2016, 09:58:30 AM
Cavs fire Blatt lolololol paying coaches that dont coach for like another 6 years pmsl
Horrible organisation. Blatt is a fine coach
For a up and coming team not a championship calibre one. This just increased the Cavs chances dramatically. Other teams should jump on blatt though
Quote from: RiOtChEsS on January 23, 2016, 05:49:20 PM
The real cock up is hiring this guy before you knew the then best player in the world wanted to play for you, the owner has his head so far up his own ass he doesn't even understand how to run a team, that hiring was way to early, from memory it was before free agency started, it was a candidate that nobody else was going to hire, what was the hurry?
Because the dude is such a f'ing prima donna that he wouldn't work with the coach because he wasn't making money off his signing and one of his boys?
Quote from: Holz on January 23, 2016, 07:05:18 PM
For a up and coming team not a championship calibre one. This just increased the Cavs chances dramatically. Other teams should jump on blatt though
Apart from the fact he was ignoring anything Blatt did anyway. The egomaniac is going to go on even more of an ego trip now
No question LeBron is trying to flex his muscle and run the joint
As an owner how could you be so petty and blind to the fact LeBron wanted to come back one day, he never ruled it out in interviews, Gilbert had that stupid letter up right up until the day of their first meeting ??? LeBron should bend him over the table and try and control the basketball related situations, nobody else there has a flowerin clue what they are doing, the last two coaches have worked less than 2 seasons and were paid for 8 seasons combined. They drafted anthony fkn bennett with the number pick ::)
Ty Lue was who the players wanted from the start. He finished second in the Cavs' coaching search so they made him the highest paid assistant ever but it was clear LeBron and co. only respected him.
Kind of hope the Cavs Cleveland it up big time
Quote from: RiOtChEsS on January 23, 2016, 05:49:20 PM
Quote from: Mat0369 on January 23, 2016, 04:57:38 PM
http://sports.yahoo.com/news/how-david-blatt-never-stood-a-chance-with-lebron-james-and-his-camp-035612484.html
The real cock up is hiring this guy before you knew the then best player in the world wanted to play for you, the owner has his head so far up his own ass he doesn't even understand how to run a team, that hiring was way to early, from memory it was before free agency started, it was a candidate that nobody else was going to hire, what was the hurry?
Agreed they flowered up. But how about LeBron actually giving the dude a chance.. 83-40 isn't good enough?? And I thought he coached fantastically well in the playoffs, rolling through the east and forcing GSW to 6 was a great achievement - the strategy was perfect.
Cavs wont win the title, and this just assures me of that. Same old dysfunctional Cavs.
Quote from: Jayman on January 24, 2016, 12:11:02 PM
Quote from: RiOtChEsS on January 23, 2016, 05:49:20 PM
Quote from: Mat0369 on January 23, 2016, 04:57:38 PM
http://sports.yahoo.com/news/how-david-blatt-never-stood-a-chance-with-lebron-james-and-his-camp-035612484.html
The real cock up is hiring this guy before you knew the then best player in the world wanted to play for you, the owner has his head so far up his own ass he doesn't even understand how to run a team, that hiring was way to early, from memory it was before free agency started, it was a candidate that nobody else was going to hire, what was the hurry?
Agreed they flowered up. But how about LeBron actually giving the dude a chance.. 83-40 isn't good enough?? And I thought he coached fantastically well in the playoffs, rolling through the east and forcing GSW to 6 was a great achievement - the strategy was perfect.
Cavs wont win the title, and this just assures me of that. Same old dysfunctional Cavs.
losing to the Bulls at quicken loans right now 5/17 from the free throw line as a team ;D
The ownership is inept, but you can't blame them for hiring a coach with a pretty good resume to stabilise a pretty crappy team. The inmates shouldn't run the asylum and the Cavs are that scared of pissing off the egotistical asshat that they let him do what he wants.
And Bron Bron wanted Mark Jackson, Lue is just a yes man, a middle man that won't actually do anything while James goes on his usual egotistical rampage.
Good to see the Bulls F them up while the Cavs shoot themselves in the foot at the line.
Quote from: Mat0369 on January 24, 2016, 03:52:46 PM
The ownership is inept, but you can't blame them for hiring a coach with a pretty good resume to stabilise a pretty crappy team. The inmates shouldn't run the asylum and the Cavs are that scared of pissing off the egotistical asshat that they let him do what he wants.
And Bron Bron wanted Mark Jackson, Lue is just a yes man, a middle man that won't actually do anything while James goes on his usual egotistical rampage.
Good to see the Bulls F them up while the Cavs shoot themselves in the foot at the line.
Bron wanting Mark Jackson is a great idea actually. Nobody has done a better job of holding Steph Curry back than Jackson ;D ;D
Quote from: Jayman on January 24, 2016, 04:25:18 PM
Bron wanting Mark Jackson is a great idea actually. Nobody has done a better job of holding Steph Curry back than Jackson ;D ;D
This is the most damning thing I read in that Yahoo article.
QuoteTo become the preferred candidate of the most powerful player in the NBA â€" and de facto Cavaliers general manager â€" Jackson understood what he needed to do: Bring on James' and Paul's Klutch Sports agency as his representation, and prepare to deliver those commission fees into the King's coffers
Then I saw this
QuoteCleveland refused to hire Jackson. General manager David Griffin is too well-connected in the NBA, too knowledgeable of the truths inside Jackson's Warriors regime to let that happen.
'Steph Curry is bad for basketball'
DeMarcus Cousins with the lazy 48 points today to make it 5 wins in a row for the Kings.
Quote from: valkorum on January 24, 2016, 11:18:31 PM
DeMarcus Cousins with the lazy 48 points today to make it 5 wins in a row for the Kings.
Ya wouldn't want to run into these guys in the 1st round of playoffs, Kings are dangerous
Quote from: RiOtChEsS on January 25, 2016, 08:31:29 AM
Quote from: valkorum on January 24, 2016, 11:18:31 PM
DeMarcus Cousins with the lazy 48 points today to make it 5 wins in a row for the Kings.
Ya wouldn't want to run into these guys in the 1st round of playoffs, Kings are dangerous
Except that if we hang on to 8th spot we would have to face the Warriors or Spurs.
Boston are 5th in the east.
D-Wade with the dagger 3. Dude can still ball that's for sure 8)
Ahh, Warriors Spurs :-*
Quote from: Jayman on January 26, 2016, 03:51:47 PM
Ahh, Warriors Spurs :-*
before the comments come I dont care who wins this home and away game.
either do the Spurs with Duncan out.
Curry vs Kawhi... Wow, didn't expect it to be this much in Curry's favour
Livingston can get buckets all day vs Spurs PG's
LMA is quiet but seems like an outlier so far
MVP MVP :D
In my best Jalen Rose voice
go spurs go :D
Quote from: Jayman on January 26, 2016, 05:01:25 PM
MVP MVP :D
$1.25 for him to win the regular season MVP is free money
I wish I could bet the field against warriors for the championship. $2.40 is a joke for them to win.
Why do you hate the Warriors so much?
Quote from: plumdog millionaire on January 26, 2016, 05:30:05 PM
Why do you hate the Warriors so much?
I dont hate them im just going against all the hype.
I like curry and klay in particular. I have the utmost respect for the Spurs even though as a Lebron fan its the team I would least like to see in the final. They have showed over a decade that they showed they should be the favorite to win the chip with years of dominance and experience.
The thunder is still very very dangerous. The west is a three horse race (despite the clippers being my team in the west) with Spurs Warriors Thunder.
obvisouly hoping the Cavs take it all but I wouldnt mind the Warriors in the final at all for Lebrons sake.
Gonna take a miracle for GS to not go back to back. Streets ahead of the rest of the comp. Unless injury strikes they are home
Quote from: quinny88 on January 26, 2016, 08:41:54 PM
Gonna take a miracle for GS to not go back to back. Streets ahead of the rest of the comp. Unless injury strikes they are home
Huge call
Quote from: Holz on January 26, 2016, 09:33:27 PM
Quote from: quinny88 on January 26, 2016, 08:41:54 PM
Gonna take a miracle for GS to not go back to back. Streets ahead of the rest of the comp. Unless injury strikes they are home
Huge call
Very big call. Today does not make me think any less of the Spurs at all.
Its gonna be a good series, and thats all we will know for now.
Quote from: Jayman on January 26, 2016, 09:37:26 PM
Quote from: Holz on January 26, 2016, 09:33:27 PM
Quote from: quinny88 on January 26, 2016, 08:41:54 PM
Gonna take a miracle for GS to not go back to back. Streets ahead of the rest of the comp. Unless injury strikes they are home
Huge call
Very big call. Today does not make me think any less of the Spurs at all.
In the past week they have beaten their 2 biggest threats by 30 and 34 points.
Just can't see anyone being good enough over 7 games.
Underrated rookie: Myles Turner. This kid will be really good.
DeMarcus Cousins with 56 yesterday. HUGE travel (4 steps by my count) by Troy Daniels before hitting the game winning 3 to sink the Kings 5 game winning streak in double OT
Quote from: quinny88 on January 26, 2016, 10:31:20 PM
Quote from: Jayman on January 26, 2016, 09:37:26 PM
Quote from: Holz on January 26, 2016, 09:33:27 PM
Quote from: quinny88 on January 26, 2016, 08:41:54 PM
Gonna take a miracle for GS to not go back to back. Streets ahead of the rest of the comp. Unless injury strikes they are home
Huge call
Very big call. Today does not make me think any less of the Spurs at all.
In the past week they have beaten their 2 biggest threats by 30 and 34 points.
Just can't see anyone being good enough over 7 games.
in the regular season they did.
post season a whole other ball game.
Quote from: valkorum on January 27, 2016, 12:42:21 PM
DeMarcus Cousins with 56 yesterday. HUGE travel (4 steps by my count) by Troy Daniels before hitting the game winning 3 to sink the Kings 5 game winning streak in double OT
Yet Kobe Bryant is an all star front court player over him.
aswell as Zaza Pachulia and Enes Kanter
Quote from: Holz on January 27, 2016, 12:55:20 PM
Quote from: valkorum on January 27, 2016, 12:42:21 PM
DeMarcus Cousins with 56 yesterday. HUGE travel (4 steps by my count) by Troy Daniels before hitting the game winning 3 to sink the Kings 5 game winning streak in double OT
Yet Kobe Bryant is an all star front court player over him.
aswell as Zaza Pachulia and Enes Kanter
Small market shines again ;)
Western Conference Player of the week - surely he will get player of the month as well. Averaging over 30PPG and 14RBG.
Scores/rebounds this month:
32/09 (PHO)
33/19 (OKC)
35/17 (DAL)
29/10 (LAL)
33/10 (GSW)
32/12 (NOP)
36/17 (UTA)
19/13 (LAC)
36/16 (LAL)
24/15 (ATL)
48/13 (IND)
56/12 (CHA)
Quote from: valkorum on January 27, 2016, 01:45:25 PM
Quote from: Holz on January 27, 2016, 12:55:20 PM
Quote from: valkorum on January 27, 2016, 12:42:21 PM
DeMarcus Cousins with 56 yesterday. HUGE travel (4 steps by my count) by Troy Daniels before hitting the game winning 3 to sink the Kings 5 game winning streak in double OT
Yet Kobe Bryant is an all star front court player over him.
aswell as Zaza Pachulia and Enes Kanter
Small market shines again ;)
Western Conference Player of the week - surely he will get player of the month as well. Averaging over 30PPG and 14RBG.
Scores/rebounds this month:
32/09 (PHO)
33/19 (OKC)
35/17 (DAL)
29/10 (LAL)
33/10 (GSW)
32/12 (NOP)
36/17 (UTA)
19/13 (LAC)
36/16 (LAL)
24/15 (ATL)
48/13 (IND)
56/12 (CHA)
def turned that early season poor-form around!!! :o 8) ;)
After spending an hour on the ESPN trade machine, I've hit the jackpot :D
Detroit give: Caldwell-Pope + Marcus Morris + Brandon Jennings + Detroit 2016 first round pick
Cleveland Cavaliers give: Kevin Love
Reason: Cleveland are paying 20 million for a third option who is border-line redundant in a potential finals matchup with the Warriors. Wherever he is on the court, Golden State attack him. Especially when they go to the Curry/Klay/Iggy/Barnes/Draymond lineup, he can't guard any of them. You flip him, you get KCP who has shown he can be one of the best Curry defenders in the league, Marcus Morris is a solid wing, and Jennings can be an upgrade at backup PG for some offense off the bench. The pick balances out the fact that Love is a max player. Detroit get Love to pair with Drummond - basically a perfect frontcourt, without wrecking the core of their team.
Makes both sides better in the short term and long term... Call it in!
Let me know if you want me to try and come up with a move for your team as the deadline approaches ;) it's a really cool little tool this, even though nothing I come up with will end up happening :P
More fakies :P
Utah give: Joe Ingles + 2017 Golden State first round pick
Atlanta give: Dennis Schroder
Reason: Utah desperately need some competent PG play if they are set on trying to beat Sacramento and Portland to get to that 8th seed. Schroder is a nice prospect stuck behind Jeff Teague, and in only giving up Ingles and a late first, it's worth a punt to see if he can thrive given more opportunity. Atlanta do this do give them more depth on the wing - Ingles is a nice player. Schroder doesn't see enough minutes for them, and hence getting a first round pick in return is good value.
And with the same reasoning above... Pelicans help replenish their pick stocks and open up some flexibility for the future to build around Davis.
Utah give: Trey Lyles + Trevor Booker + 2016 Jazz first round pick + 2016 Boston second round pick
New Orleans give: Jrue Holliday
Lakers give: Lou Williams
Chicago give: Kirk Hinrich + Aaron Brooks + E'Twaunn Moore + 2016 Bulls first round pick
Reason: The Bulls desperately need scoring, 26th ranked offense. They give up 3 worthless players to make the salaries match, and then their first round pick which shouldn't be anything too valuable. The Lakers should be sellers at the deadline, building up as many picks as they can as they rebuild.
#WhoSaysNo
New Orleans give: Tyreke Evans + Omer Asik + Norris Cole
Brooklyn give: Joe Johnson + Rondae Hollis-Jefferson + Shane Larkin + 2017 Boston 2nd round pick
Reason: The Nets get a solid player in his prime - they don't have a first round pick until 2020 so may as well try to be competitive. New Orleans get a couple of decent young prospects in Rondae and Larkin, Joe's massive expiring contract and most importantly get off of Asik's horrible contract.
I like this one!
Phoenix give: Tyson Chandler
Clippers give: Lance Stephenson + CJ Wilcox + Branden Dawson
Reason: The Suns got their timeline horribly wrong, they aren't even close to competing. They move on from Chandler and his 4-year contract to help bottom out this year, and gain some younger pieces. The Clippers would bank on Chandler still having a year or so left of good basketball and that he can be a quality backup centre for their playoff run.
Quote from: Jayman on January 28, 2016, 01:58:34 AM
Phoenix give: Tyson Chandler
Clippers give: Lance Stephenson + CJ Wilcox + Branden Dawson
Reason: The Suns got their timeline horribly wrong, they aren't even close to competing. They move on from Chandler and his 4-year contract to help bottom out this year, and gain some younger pieces. The Clippers would bank on Chandler still having a year or so left of good basketball and that he can be a quality backup centre for their playoff run.
Big problem with this one, Chandler won't play back up to anyone especially DJ, he left Dallas because they were trying to sign him.
Blake Griffin punched the Clippers equipment manager in the face twice
Broke an index finger, out 4-6weeks... then a suspension surely
Quote from: Jayman on January 28, 2016, 12:36:22 AM
After spending an hour on the ESPN trade machine, I've hit the jackpot :D
Detroit give: Caldwell-Pope + Marcus Morris + Brandon Jennings + Detroit 2016 first round pick
Cleveland Cavaliers give: Kevin Love
Reason: Cleveland are paying 20 million for a third option who is border-line redundant in a potential finals matchup with the Warriors. Wherever he is on the court, Golden State attack him. Especially when they go to the Curry/Klay/Iggy/Barnes/Draymond lineup, he can't guard any of them. You flip him, you get KCP who has shown he can be one of the best Curry defenders in the league, Marcus Morris is a solid wing, and Jennings can be an upgrade at backup PG for some offense off the bench. The pick balances out the fact that Love is a max player. Detroit get Love to pair with Drummond - basically a perfect frontcourt, without wrecking the core of their team.
Makes both sides better in the short term and long term... Call it in!
Let me know if you want me to try and come up with a move for your team as the deadline approaches ;) it's a really cool little tool this, even though nothing I come up with will end up happening :P
it will allow anything though
I just did
Varejo to Sixers for Embiid Okafor and Ish Smith
Love to Wolves for Wiggins + Towns + Rubio
Irving Wiggins James Okafor Towns
with I.Smith Embiid Thompson Mozgof Rubio J.R.Smith aint too bad
It's only meant to match salaries so they would work CBA wise, obviously you could do so many one sided deals if they work by salary
What about one for the Kings - we need a wing defender.
DMC, WCS, Rondo & Casspi are off the table
Quote from: valkorum on January 28, 2016, 11:31:59 AM
What about one for the Kings - we need a wing defender.
DMC, WCS, Rondo & Casspi are off the table
Glad you asked! The Kings are not an easy one though, as they traded away picks to offload their bad contracts to Philly.
Kings give: Kosta Koufus + Ben Mclemore + 2020 first round pick top 8 protected + Spurs 2016 second round pick
New Orleans give: Tyreke Evans
Kings give: Rudy Gay + Marco Bellinelli
Memphis give: Courtney Lee + Tony Allen + Vince Carter
Atlanta give: Thabo Sefalosha
Kings give: Ben Mclemore
Phoenix give: PJ Tucker + Markieff Morris
Kings give: Ben Mclemore + Marco Bellinelli + Caron Butler + 2016 Spurs second round pick + 2018 Portland second round pick
Think they are all reasonable deals that both sides would consider :) what do you think?
Quote from: Jayman on January 28, 2016, 01:13:02 PM
Glad you asked! The Kings are not an easy one though, as they traded away picks to offload their bad contracts to Philly.
Kings give: Kosta Koufus + Ben Mclemore + 2020 first round pick top 8 protected + Spurs 2016 second round pick
New Orleans give: Tyreke Evans
NO - Tyreke is not a great defender and has been at the Kings before. He needs the ball in his hands to be effective
Kings give: Rudy Gay + Marco Bellinelli
Memphis give: Courtney Lee + Tony Allen + Vince Carter
I don't mind this one, Lee adds depth and Allen adds defense. I assume VC is just to make the salary's match
Atlanta give: Thabo Sefalosha
Kings give: Ben Mclemore
I also dont mind this one - straight swap
Phoenix give: PJ Tucker + Markieff Morris
Kings give: Ben Mclemore + Marco Bellinelli + Caron Butler + 2016 Spurs second round pick + 2018 Portland second round pick
NO NO NO - We give up way too much to get a guy who is unproven in the NBA and a head case in Morris.
Think they are all reasonable deals that both sides would consider :) what do you think?
Interesting, Valk. I think the Memphis one is my favourite - only thing is that I'm not sure if the Grizzlies would want Rudy Gay back again.
Tyronn Lue to coach the east at the all-star game. Glad to see he's getting the recognition after putting in a full 1 week of head coaching, and lifting the Cavs to a 2-1 record.
::)
Quote from: Jayman on January 28, 2016, 02:54:39 PM
Tyronn Lue to coach the east at the all-star game. Glad to see he's getting the recognition after putting in a full 1 week of head coaching, and lifting the Cavs to a 2-1 record.
::)
To be fair he was the head coach all year
Isaiah is heading to the all-star game!! #ThanksPhoenix
;D
Quote from: Jayman on January 29, 2016, 12:18:44 PM
Isaiah is heading to the all-star game!! #ThanksPhoenix
;D
F-you Jayman! :P ;)
you really know how to kick a man when his team is down! (shower) :P :'( :-X ;)
Quote from: Holz on January 28, 2016, 10:18:22 AM
Quote from: Jayman on January 28, 2016, 12:36:22 AM
After spending an hour on the ESPN trade machine, I've hit the jackpot :D
Detroit give: Caldwell-Pope + Marcus Morris + Brandon Jennings + Detroit 2016 first round pick
Cleveland Cavaliers give: Kevin Love
Reason: Cleveland are paying 20 million for a third option who is border-line redundant in a potential finals matchup with the Warriors. Wherever he is on the court, Golden State attack him. Especially when they go to the Curry/Klay/Iggy/Barnes/Draymond lineup, he can't guard any of them. You flip him, you get KCP who has shown he can be one of the best Curry defenders in the league, Marcus Morris is a solid wing, and Jennings can be an upgrade at backup PG for some offense off the bench. The pick balances out the fact that Love is a max player. Detroit get Love to pair with Drummond - basically a perfect frontcourt, without wrecking the core of their team.
Makes both sides better in the short term and long term... Call it in!
Let me know if you want me to try and come up with a move for your team as the deadline approaches ;) it's a really cool little tool this, even though nothing I come up with will end up happening :P
it will allow anything though
I just did
Varejo to Sixers for Embiid Okafor and Ish Smith
Love to Wolves for Wiggins + Towns + Rubio
Irving Wiggins James Okafor Towns
with I.Smith Embiid Thompson Mozgof Rubio J.R.Smith aint too bad
I was just about to reply and say, looks great Jayman!
But Cavs would never do it despite the common sense financials and the GSW match-up
Quote from: valkorum on January 28, 2016, 02:28:41 PM
Quote from: Jayman on January 28, 2016, 01:13:02 PM
Glad you asked! The Kings are not an easy one though, as they traded away picks to offload their bad contracts to Philly.
Kings give: Kosta Koufus + Ben Mclemore + 2020 first round pick top 8 protected + Spurs 2016 second round pick
New Orleans give: Tyreke Evans
NO - Tyreke is not a great defender and has been at the Kings before. He needs the ball in his hands to be effective
Kings give: Rudy Gay + Marco Bellinelli
Memphis give: Courtney Lee + Tony Allen + Vince Carter
I don't mind this one, Lee adds depth and Allen adds defense. I assume VC is just to make the salary's match
Atlanta give: Thabo Sefalosha
Kings give: Ben Mclemore
I also dont mind this one - straight swap
Phoenix give: PJ Tucker + Markieff Morris
Kings give: Ben Mclemore + Marco Bellinelli + Caron Butler + 2016 Spurs second round pick + 2018 Portland second round pick
NO NO NO - We give up way too much to get a guy who is unproven in the NBA and a head case in Morris.
Think they are all reasonable deals that both sides would consider :) what do you think?
ha, ha! as a Phoenix fan I was just about to say that it looked good! ;)
but we're so shower right now, anything would be better than doing nothing ... :'( ;)
Wow, the refereeing in this Rockets vs Thunder game is atrocious!
Quote from: Jayman on January 30, 2016, 02:39:53 PM
Wow, the refereeing in this Rockets vs Thunder game is atrocious!
Haven't been watching, can only imagine it's against Thunder ::)
Warriors 108
Philly 105
That would have been a reasonable upset
Interesting rumour I heard; NYK looking at going after Jeff Teague...
Quote from: Toga on January 31, 2016, 06:30:25 PM
Interesting rumour I heard; NYK looking at going after Jeff Teague...
Yeah, Atlanta are looking to unleash Schroeder and NYC has no decent PG's, could work out for both teams.
Another rumour I've heard is Whiteside to the Lakers before the trade deadline, and possibly Durant then Westbrook in the next 2 years! :o
Boston ran down by Orlando :o
Equal third in the east baby!
Huge play for the OKC win, Westbrook ties it, Ibaka with a huge block and then KD comes up clutch with a deep 3 to win!
Man, Minnesota are going to be so good when they have a proper coach. Karl Towns is a transcendent player, pair him with Wiggins and wow.
Speaking of Wiggins
http://www.canishoopus.com/2016/2/1/10880850/the-timberwolves-need-to-start-getting-a-lot-more-from-andrew-wiggins
Quote from: Jayman on February 04, 2016, 06:24:58 PM
Man, Minnesota are going to be so good when they have a proper coach. Karl Towns is a transcendent player, pair him with Wiggins and wow.
Im crossing my fingers for simmons
Imagine that combo for 10 years
That would just say rigged to me. There is no way the Wolves deserve a top 2 pick let alone the number 1. The league already bailed out the Cavs, they won't be doing the same for Minnesota.
How good is my boy eh? Nobody has EVER shot the ball like he does!
Makes a steal then shoots the three straight away from nowhere! NOBODY has ever shot the ball like my boy Steph Curry!
Quote from: Mat0369 on February 04, 2016, 09:53:09 PM
That would just say rigged to me. There is no way the Wolves deserve a top 2 pick let alone the number 1. The league already bailed out the Cavs, they won't be doing the same for Minnesota.
Its a lotto though if they finish low they should stand a chance.
Its not rigged
Quote from: tbagrocks on February 04, 2016, 10:27:06 PM
How good is my boy eh? Nobody has EVER shot the ball like he does!
Makes a steal then shoots the three straight away from nowhere! NOBODY has ever shot the ball like my boy Steph Curry!
his shooting is NBA JAM right now, he's en fuego
Player A:
Stats per 100 possessions: 42.6 points, 7.5 rebounds, 9.1 assists, 51.1 FG%, 45.8 3pt%, 91.1 FT%
Advanced stats: 32.1 PER, 68.2 TS%, 63.8 eFG%, .338 WS/48, 12.5 BPM
Player B:
Stats per 100 possessions: 42.7 points, 8.8 rebounds, 8.1 assists, 52.6 FG%, 37.6 3pt%, 84.8 FT%
Advanced stats: 31.2 PER, 60.6 TS%, 55.0 eFG%, .285 WS/48, 10.6 BPM
Those are single season numbers, one current player, one retired. Take a guess :)
Steph and MJ I'm guessing. Playoff's is everything tho dude. Steph didn't even win the finals MVP last season! Still got a lot to prove.
Quote from: My Chumps on February 06, 2016, 12:53:08 AM
Steph and MJ I'm guessing. Playoff's is everything tho dude. Steph didn't even win the finals MVP last season! Still got a lot to prove.
Correct! Curry this season, and 26 year old Michael Jordan. As you say there is definitely a long way to go, but the guy is on track for just as good of a regular season statistically as MJ ever had. Crazy.
Quote from: Holz on February 05, 2016, 12:32:07 AM
Its a lotto though if they finish low they should stand a chance.
Its not rigged
That's debatable. Unless they show the ping pong balls drawn on live TV you can't say it is really a lotto. There have been a few to many 'coincidences' which keeps the conspiracy theory real
Quote from: Mat0369 on February 06, 2016, 01:41:59 AM
Quote from: Holz on February 05, 2016, 12:32:07 AM
Its a lotto though if they finish low they should stand a chance.
Its not rigged
That's debatable. Unless they show the ping pong balls drawn on live TV you can't say it is really a lotto. There have been a few to many 'coincidences' which keeps the conspiracy theory real
There is betting on it, if it was found to be rigged the nba would fall apart.
Its probability sometimes the unprobable happens
Quote from: Jayman on February 06, 2016, 01:01:42 AM
Quote from: My Chumps on February 06, 2016, 12:53:08 AM
Steph and MJ I'm guessing. Playoff's is everything tho dude. Steph didn't even win the finals MVP last season! Still got a lot to prove.
Correct! Curry this season, and 26 year old Michael Jordan. As you say there is definitely a long way to go, but the guy is on track for just as good of a regular season statistically as MJ ever had. Crazy.
Yet still he will have his knockers no matter what, some people just refuse to embrace greatness as it's happening...
It's laughable how angry Kobe fans are about him being ranked 12th on ESPN's all-time list.(http://content.boards.philadelphiaeagles.com/public/style_emoticons/default/sideroll.gif)
Most delusional type of NBA fans out there.
Report: The Clippers rebuffed talks with the Nuggets for Blake Griffin, but there’s still important info from this. http://
http://www.cbssports.com/nba/eye-on-basketball/25474590/nuggets-clippers-reportedly-had-talks-over-blake-griffin-six-things-to-know
And the forbes article http://www.forbes.com/sites/mitchlawrence/2016/02/05/clippers-looking-to-deal-blake-griffin/2/#23c61507365e
QuoteAs the Clippers await what the NBA will do to Blake Griffin for his involvement in a recent fight, the Clips are calling other teams about trading their perennial All-Star forward, industry sources tell Forbes.
The Clips have called the Nuggets about sending Griffin to Denver, according to sources with direct knowledge of the talks. The Nuggets have begun their due diligence, trying to see if it makes sense to put together a package for the five-time All-Star.
Denver is said to be somewhat leery of making a move for Griffin because, in part, the Nuggets don’t believe a superstar of Griffin’s magnitude would be willing to re-sign when he becomes an unrestricted free agent in 2018. That might seem like a long way off, but the Nuggets are still smarting from being forced to trade Carmelo Anthony in Feb., 2011 when he was approaching free agency and forced his way to New York. Griffin has played his entire career in Los Angeles.
At 26, Griffin is one of the NBA’s marquee stars, appearing as the main spokesman for KIA, the official car of the NBA. He didn’t make the All-Star team for the first time in his six-year pro career as he’s missed 19 of L.A.’s 49 games due to a leg injury and broken hand.
The Knicks have been mentioned as a potential destination if the Clippers break up their “Lob City†attack and move Griffin. But unless Anthony waives a no-trade clause and agrees to leave, New York would not have the necessary assets to send back in a blockbuster deal. Another potential obstacle for some potential suitors is Griffin’s broken right hand that could keep him out another five weeks.
The Nuggets are open to trading power forward Kenneth Faried, 26, who has been inconsistent in his first five seasons. Veteran forward Danilo Gallinari is also available in the right deal. But they intend to keep building around promising rookie PG Emmanuel Mudiay.
Griffin faces severe punishment from the NBA after getting into a fight on Jan. 23 with the Clippers’ longtime assistant equipment manager, Matias Testi, who is close to Griffin. The fight alarmed the league, which is close to finishing its investigation of the incident. The fight took place in Toronto as Griffin was sidelined with a leg injury that had KO’d him since Christmas.
“I’d say from the league’s standpoint, of course it’s the last thing that you want to see happen,’’ NBA commissioner Adam Silver told USAToday. “And whether it’s in the NBA, or in any industry, you have one co-worker, in essence, punching another co-worker. That’s a terrible thing. Blake has acknowledged that. But at the same time, I know he recognizes that there are consequences of his actions.â€
Clippers TOTALLY wouldn't go for this trade but I found a trade that would work for Kings & Clips
Clippers Give: Griffin, Redick
Kings Give: Gay, Belinelli, Acy, Butler
Nobody is trading for Rudy Gay, let alone for Blake Griffin. Every team that has offloaded him has laughed at the suckers that picked him up afterwards.
CELTICS
Cluuuuuuuutch!
Warriors are just ridiculous
As good as Curry has been these last couple of seasons, being named 23rd on ESPN's ALL TIME list I think is ridiculous, ahead of plenty of legends and greats of the game, Alan Iverson for one.
You can't say that in 2 seasons Curry has been the 23rd best player in NBA history!
If he play's like this I have no doubt he could complete the Mount Rushmore of basketball greats.
Jordan, Magic, Bird, Curry.
But, that's a long way away.
OKAY NEXT POINT, very proud of the Thunder's efforts today, although playoffs are very different, they proved they can match it with the best, without Roberson who is the normal starting SG and a great defensive player unlike Waiters.
We just need a much bigger contribution from the bench in big games. But it's good signs for the Thunder.
Crazy to think that losing by 8 to the Warriors is widely thought of as a good effort
I think assuming Curry just stopped playing today, 23rd might actually be too low for him. Being by far the best player on an all-time great team is a huge deal. I'd have him in the 17-21 range to be honest, but can understand that some would value longevity much higher.
Curry just locked up the MVP with that performance
Game as much closer than the 8pt margin. KD threw up 2 straight early possession 3pters only being down by 1 pt, then made some lazy defensive plays, as well as not boxing out on Green who stole a couple of easy offensive boards. OKC had no chance without him, but he made some unforced errors in those last 3mins. The difference was the hustle of guys like Iguodala, Green, Speights and Curry, OKC looked disinterested compared to GSW (they weren't, but just the difference in effort). GSW are such a well oiled machine especially in offense.
Tied game Curry with the ball
Gets the switch on to Durant
Fakes the blow by pulls up from 17ft
Durant does not bite
All over him challenges the shot...
Nothing but net 8)
Quote from: Jayman on February 07, 2016, 10:14:38 PM
I think assuming Curry just stopped playing today, 23rd might actually be too low for him. Being by far the best player on an all-time great team is a huge deal. I'd have him in the 17-21 range to be honest, but can understand that some would value longevity much higher.
surely your not serious on both statements there are soo many players with much much better careers at this point. I also dont but the all time great team thing they better take the title easy if people are talking like that.
this is abit of an insult to the all time greats.
Just below Kevin Garnett at 21 do you agree with that Jay. Your second greatest PF of all time is barely better then curry in his early stages of his career.
these players based on careers are lower
Isiah Thomas - 2 time champion only players to have more 20-10 assit games is Oscar and Magic
Dwayne Wade: not a wade fan but a 3 time champion a finals mvp going 34.7 PPG and 7.8 RPG
John Havlichek this one is disrepectfull, 8 time champion 2 time finals mvp 8 time defensive team of the year.
George Milkan
Bob Petit
Bob Cousy: 2 time MVP 6 championships
Curry is doing everything he can to work his way up the list but he isnt close to 23 yet.
As it stands he is a 1 time MVP, but almost a lock to go back to back. This is really good. He has 1 Championship which alot of people have put an asterix on with the competition falling down.
By the way in that Championship Series he went 26 points 6.3 Assits 5.2 Rebounds on 44% shooting and 38.5% 3 point shooting.
His playoff resume is very very weak with that questionable title and wasnt even the best player on the team in the series that was Iggy.
let him do something in the playoffs then come back to me about this list. Wade Thomas John George and the Bobs and many others should feel totally disrespected.
Too soon to define where he is right now as the ceiling is very high and the floor would be nothing short of tragedy...
I don't think you can put players in a list like that until their careers are over, was put in due to all he hype around him the fact that we've never seen a shooter like him. I have no doubt he'll earn his place some where in the top 30 once his careers over, the work the guy puts in off the court is reason enough that I believe he will, but what happens if he gets an injury that stops him like Rose, Roy, Penny, Hill, Penny etc...if that was the case he'd prob drop out of the top 50 I would think.
Quote from: jvalles69 on February 08, 2016, 12:05:01 PM
I don't think you can put players in a list like that until their careers are over, was put in due to all he hype around him the fact that we've never seen a shooter like him. I have no doubt he'll earn his place some where in the top 30 once his careers over, the work the guy puts in off the court is reason enough that I believe he will, but what happens if he gets an injury that stops him like Rose, Roy, Penny, Hill, Penny etc...if that was the case he'd prob drop out of the top 50 I would think.
so many variables really, he is torching the all time 3pt list so he is up there but he isn't even halfway through his career
Quote from: RiOtChEsS on February 08, 2016, 12:12:06 PM
Quote from: jvalles69 on February 08, 2016, 12:05:01 PM
I don't think you can put players in a list like that until their careers are over, was put in due to all he hype around him the fact that we've never seen a shooter like him. I have no doubt he'll earn his place some where in the top 30 once his careers over, the work the guy puts in off the court is reason enough that I believe he will, but what happens if he gets an injury that stops him like Rose, Roy, Penny, Hill, Penny etc...if that was the case he'd prob drop out of the top 50 I would think.
so many variables really, he is torching the all time 3pt list so he is up there but he isn't even halfway through his career
Yeah, if he does what he's doing now for another 5-7years, he'll prob be top 10 easy. I wouldn't be surprised if they move the 3pt line back just cos of him!
Quote from: jvalles69 on February 08, 2016, 12:26:29 PM
Quote from: RiOtChEsS on February 08, 2016, 12:12:06 PM
Quote from: jvalles69 on February 08, 2016, 12:05:01 PM
I don't think you can put players in a list like that until their careers are over, was put in due to all he hype around him the fact that we've never seen a shooter like him. I have no doubt he'll earn his place some where in the top 30 once his careers over, the work the guy puts in off the court is reason enough that I believe he will, but what happens if he gets an injury that stops him like Rose, Roy, Penny, Hill, Penny etc...if that was the case he'd prob drop out of the top 50 I would think.
so many variables really, he is torching the all time 3pt list so he is up there but he isn't even halfway through his career
Yeah, if he does what he's doing now for another 5-7years, he'll prob be top 10 easy. I wouldn't be surprised if they move the 3pt line back just cos of him!
yeah agreed
not sure they will move it back as he is the only 1 making it look that easy, would need to be players collectively
I do think the hack'a'whoever rule will be changed though, no more Drummond and Jordan at the line marathons
Quote from: RiOtChEsS on February 08, 2016, 12:40:09 PM
Quote from: jvalles69 on February 08, 2016, 12:26:29 PM
Quote from: RiOtChEsS on February 08, 2016, 12:12:06 PM
Quote from: jvalles69 on February 08, 2016, 12:05:01 PM
I don't think you can put players in a list like that until their careers are over, was put in due to all he hype around him the fact that we've never seen a shooter like him. I have no doubt he'll earn his place some where in the top 30 once his careers over, the work the guy puts in off the court is reason enough that I believe he will, but what happens if he gets an injury that stops him like Rose, Roy, Penny, Hill, Penny etc...if that was the case he'd prob drop out of the top 50 I would think.
so many variables really, he is torching the all time 3pt list so he is up there but he isn't even halfway through his career
Yeah, if he does what he's doing now for another 5-7years, he'll prob be top 10 easy. I wouldn't be surprised if they move the 3pt line back just cos of him!
yeah agreed
not sure they will move it back as he is the only 1 making it look that easy, would need to be players collectively
I do think the hack'a'whoever rule will be changed though, no more Drummond and Jordan at the line marathons
If curry keeps this form up in the playoffs for the next 5-7 years then he should make his way into the top 10.
really looking forward to this years playoffs.
All star weekend coming up too, check out these lineups! :o
Skills challenge: Beverly, Cousns, Dray Green, AD, McCollum, Anthony-Towns, Thomas, Clarkson (this should be a riot with the bigs in there). My tip is IT.
3pt shootout: Curry, Harden, Thompson, Middleton, Lowry, Redick, Bosh, Booker (Bosh LOL) Curry should take this one out, biggest threat is his splash brother, Redick as a dark horse.
Dunk comp: Lavine, Barton, Gordon and Drummond (I'm least excited for this one)
Quote from: jvalles69 on February 08, 2016, 01:44:39 PM
All star weekend coming up too, check out these lineups! :o
Skills challenge: Beverly, Cousns, Dray Green, AD, McCollum, Anthony-Towns, Thomas, Clarkson (this should be a riot with the bigs in there). My tip is IT.
3pt shootout: Curry, Harden, Thompson, Middleton, Lowry, Redick, Bosh, Booker (Bosh LOL) Curry should take this one out, biggest threat is his splash brother, Redick as a dark horse.
Dunk comp: Lavine, Barton, Gordon and Drummond (I'm least excited for this one)
Bosh has a very long stroke, not sure he will get all the balls off... so many double entendre's :D
I hope they separate the bigs and smalls in the skills challenge
Bigs on one side of the bracket
Smalls on the other side of the bracket.
Best big vs best small for the final. That would be awesome. If this is how its done then I predict Cousins v IT
How awesome would it be if Bosh wins the 3pt shootout. But I think it will be Curry again - back to back
Dunk contest - I hope Zac LaVine has something different this year, all his dunks were the same last year (through the legs or behind the back). That being said, after last year he did say he had other stuff in the kit bag. LaVine to win again.
West to win the All star game
I have a free bet to use on the NBA. As I don't follow the NBA too closely, is their any value bets coming up that people here could recommend ;)
Quote from: Rusty00 on February 08, 2016, 10:44:51 PM
I have a free bet to use on the NBA. As I don't follow the NBA too closely, is their any value bets coming up that people here could recommend ;)
Maybe look at something for All-Star weekend, which is only days away. Something like Steph to win the 3pt contest at $2.70 seems like good value.
Quote from: Holz on February 08, 2016, 10:40:57 AM
Quote from: Jayman on February 07, 2016, 10:14:38 PM
I think assuming Curry just stopped playing today, 23rd might actually be too low for him. Being by far the best player on an all-time great team is a huge deal. I'd have him in the 17-21 range to be honest, but can understand that some would value longevity much higher.
surely your not serious on both statements there are soo many players with much much better careers at this point. I also dont but the all time great team thing they better take the title easy if people are talking like that.
this is abit of an insult to the all time greats.
Just below Kevin Garnett at 21 do you agree with that Jay. Your second greatest PF of all time is barely better then curry in his early stages of his career.
these players based on careers are lower
Isiah Thomas - 2 time champion only players to have more 20-10 assit games is Oscar and Magic
Dwayne Wade: not a wade fan but a 3 time champion a finals mvp going 34.7 PPG and 7.8 RPG
John Havlichek this one is disrepectfull, 8 time champion 2 time finals mvp 8 time defensive team of the year.
George Milkan
Bob Petit
Bob Cousy: 2 time MVP 6 championships
Curry is doing everything he can to work his way up the list but he isnt close to 23 yet.
As it stands he is a 1 time MVP, but almost a lock to go back to back. This is really good. He has 1 Championship which alot of people have put an asterix on with the competition falling down.
By the way in that Championship Series he went 26 points 6.3 Assits 5.2 Rebounds on 44% shooting and 38.5% 3 point shooting.
His playoff resume is very very weak with that questionable title and wasnt even the best player on the team in the series that was Iggy.
let him do something in the playoffs then come back to me about this list. Wade Thomas John George and the Bobs and many others should feel totally disrespected.
He shouldn't be above Kevin yet, I agree on that. Garnett had insane prime years and has the longevity edge over Curry at the moment obviously.
I think it's fair enough that Curry is ranked over IT. Isiah although being the focal point of those Pistons teams, it's not close to what Steph is doing. Steph single handedly takes a pretty good team, to an all-time dominant team. I don't think Isiah did that. I think Havlicek is in a similar boat. Great player but isn't the reason for dominance like Curry is.
Wade is a tough one, had an amazing prime but it was short-lived and hard to gauge how good he really was when he was playing with one of the best ever. And his injury issues haven't really been able to let us see what he still had left the past few seasons.
Mikan, Petit and Cousy are from a completely different era so are hard to evaluate, but I don't think any of them were ever the best player in the world at any point - which Steph is at the moment.
I cannot at all see how last year's championship has an asterisk. They were the best team all season and only lost 5 games in the playoffs en route to winning the championship fairly comfortably. Steph had a 24.5 PER in the playoffs, which granted is not as good as his usual output but he was still the Warriors best player overall in the playoffs (highest PER, Win Shares), so can't say he didn't perform. Fair enough, Iggy was awesome in the playoffs, but I don't necessarily take anything away from Steph for that - just Steph being on the court allows guys like Iggy to be successful offensively.
I'm looking forward to seeing Steph this post-season - it seems like that will be a major factor in determining how he stacks up.
http://sports.yahoo.com/news/report-york-knicks-fire-head-155757170.html
obviously got their eye on someone...
Quote from: RiOtChEsS on February 09, 2016, 08:54:55 AM
http://sports.yahoo.com/news/report-york-knicks-fire-head-155757170.html
obviously got their eye on someone...
And just as I thought the Knicks were becoming less dysfucntional.. They'll never change with Dolan in charge.
Quote from: Jayman on February 08, 2016, 11:19:18 PM
I think it's fair enough that Curry is ranked over IT. Isiah although being the focal point of those Pistons teams, it's not close to what Steph is doing. Steph single handedly takes a pretty good team, to an all-time dominant team. I don't think Isiah did that. I think Havlicek is in a similar boat. Great player but isn't the reason for dominance like Curry is.
Ill address this one first, will be interesting to see what you come back with.
Isiah Thomas has two rings
his first when he had to beat James Worthy, Kareem and Magic in the finals in the year Magic was the league MVP and not only did that but did that in a sweep. Dumars did get the mvp but Isiah was probably the second best player on team comfortably much like steph was this year.
the difference Warriors 4-2 against 1 of the big 3. Pistons 4-0 against showtime
Ill also remind you that they had to take out a young Michael Jordan who was in his 5th year of his career so no rookie.
his second ring he had to come up against Michael Jordan in his 6th year as they made a big push and took them out in a 7 game series. This was with pippen and right before they three peated so they were close to elite.
his second ring he came up against clyde drexter who had knocked out a primed David Robinson on the way to the finals. they won 4-1 and Isiah picked up the Finals MVP
im sorry but 2 rings taking out the likes of Jordan, Pippen just before they three peated, taking out showtime lakers with worthy kareem and magic and then a finals MVP against clyde drexler and his squad.
Is far far more impressive then being the second best player in a finals team who took out a team with their second and third best players gone taking 6 games to do it. i dont care that they played Lebron nobody alone can do it, Jordan with Pippen couldnt even beat the pistons.
I should also add they waltzed into the finals on the back of playing teams with no PGs their floor admirals.
Im sorry but Stephs regualr season record is great 2 MVPs 1 scoring title, best 3 point shooting season ever.
his playoff resume is nothing, to me its not even close to top 100 of all time.
He can change that this year with a finals MVP and some wins against the spurs/thunder/cavs (hopefully fit) but for now he has shown me nothing.
putting him ahead of Thomas is disrespectful at this point.
here is a question.
I propose you this.
Warriors v Cavs last year.
Irving Love fully fit and Klay Thompson, Draymond Green dont play.
how do you have that game playing out?
Quote from: Holz on February 09, 2016, 10:47:22 AM
here is a question.
I propose you this.
Warriors v Cavs last year.
Irving Love fully fit and Klay Thompson, Draymond Green dont play.
how do you have that game playing out?
Think you answered it yourself
Quote from: Holz on February 09, 2016, 10:47:22 AM
nobody alone can do it
Works both ways, if that were the case then you should be saying Cavs beat three east teams that were worse than the top 5 seeds in the west and then beat a team missing two of their best players. WAY bigger asterisk than the opposite. There's not really any point to the exercise
Quote from: plumdog millionaire on February 09, 2016, 11:20:05 AM
Quote from: Holz on February 09, 2016, 10:47:22 AM
here is a question.
I propose you this.
Warriors v Cavs last year.
Irving Love fully fit and Klay Thompson, Draymond Green dont play.
how do you have that game playing out?
Think you answered it yourself
Quote from: Holz on February 09, 2016, 10:47:22 AM
nobody alone can do it
Works both ways, if that were the case then you should be saying Cavs beat three east teams that were worse than the top 5 seeds in the west and then beat a team missing two of their best players. WAY bigger asterisk than the opposite. There's not really any point to the exercise
Yes it would have been an asterix, but that didnt happen.
Curry has just been called a top 25 of all time ahead of isiah Thomas who beat Showtime and has a finals MVP against drexler.
Lebron has only 2 rings but it was against a young but star team in Durrant Westbrook Ibaka and a young Harden. The difference is Lebron almost beat this legondary Warriors team alone and was the real finals MVP last year.
Quote from: Holz on February 09, 2016, 11:24:38 AM
asterix
This guy?
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Quote from: Holz on February 09, 2016, 11:24:38 AM
Quote from: plumdog millionaire on February 09, 2016, 11:20:05 AM
Quote from: Holz on February 09, 2016, 10:47:22 AM
here is a question.
I propose you this.
Warriors v Cavs last year.
Irving Love fully fit and Klay Thompson, Draymond Green dont play.
how do you have that game playing out?
Think you answered it yourself
Quote from: Holz on February 09, 2016, 10:47:22 AM
nobody alone can do it
Works both ways, if that were the case then you should be saying Cavs beat three east teams that were worse than the top 5 seeds in the west and then beat a team missing two of their best players. WAY bigger asterisk than the opposite. There's not really any point to the exercise
Yes it would have been an asterix, but that didnt happen.
Curry has just been called a top 25 of all time ahead of isiah Thomas who beat Showtime and has a finals MVP against drexler.
Lebron has only 2 rings but it was against a young but star team in Durrant Westbrook Ibaka and a young Harden. The difference is Lebron almost beat this legondary Warriors team alone and was the real finals MVP last year.
I've got your back Holz, I completely agree. The competition and toughness today don't even compare one iota to that of the late 80's and early to mid 90's.
Quote from: jvalles69 on February 09, 2016, 02:28:55 PM
Quote from: Holz on February 09, 2016, 11:24:38 AM
Quote from: plumdog millionaire on February 09, 2016, 11:20:05 AM
Quote from: Holz on February 09, 2016, 10:47:22 AM
here is a question.
I propose you this.
Warriors v Cavs last year.
Irving Love fully fit and Klay Thompson, Draymond Green dont play.
how do you have that game playing out?
Think you answered it yourself
Quote from: Holz on February 09, 2016, 10:47:22 AM
nobody alone can do it
Works both ways, if that were the case then you should be saying Cavs beat three east teams that were worse than the top 5 seeds in the west and then beat a team missing two of their best players. WAY bigger asterisk than the opposite. There's not really any point to the exercise
Yes it would have been an asterix, but that didnt happen.
Curry has just been called a top 25 of all time ahead of isiah Thomas who beat Showtime and has a finals MVP against drexler.
Lebron has only 2 rings but it was against a young but star team in Durrant Westbrook Ibaka and a young Harden. The difference is Lebron almost beat this legondary Warriors team alone and was the real finals MVP last year.
I've got your back Holz, I completely agree. The competition and toughness today don't even compare one iota to that of the late 80's and early to mid 90's.
its a true to an extent.
but if you make your way through Spurs Thunder Cavs to take out a title then you get my respect.
Aldridge Leonard with the old legends is pretty tough
the pure talent of Durrant Westbrook combo
one of the greatest ever in Lebron with Irving as a legit all star
still in whole winning back in those days was tougher and what Thomas did taking out 3/10 greatest players of all time with a full team support is amazing.
Quote from: Holz on February 09, 2016, 04:14:30 PM
Quote from: jvalles69 on February 09, 2016, 02:28:55 PM
Quote from: Holz on February 09, 2016, 11:24:38 AM
Quote from: plumdog millionaire on February 09, 2016, 11:20:05 AM
Quote from: Holz on February 09, 2016, 10:47:22 AM
here is a question.
I propose you this.
Warriors v Cavs last year.
Irving Love fully fit and Klay Thompson, Draymond Green dont play.
how do you have that game playing out?
Think you answered it yourself
Quote from: Holz on February 09, 2016, 10:47:22 AM
nobody alone can do it
Works both ways, if that were the case then you should be saying Cavs beat three east teams that were worse than the top 5 seeds in the west and then beat a team missing two of their best players. WAY bigger asterisk than the opposite. There's not really any point to the exercise
Yes it would have been an asterix, but that didnt happen.
Curry has just been called a top 25 of all time ahead of isiah Thomas who beat Showtime and has a finals MVP against drexler.
Lebron has only 2 rings but it was against a young but star team in Durrant Westbrook Ibaka and a young Harden. The difference is Lebron almost beat this legondary Warriors team alone and was the real finals MVP last year.
I've got your back Holz, I completely agree. The competition and toughness today don't even compare one iota to that of the late 80's and early to mid 90's.
its a true to an extent.
but if you make your way through Spurs Thunder Cavs to take out a title then you get my respect.
Aldridge Leonard with the old legends is pretty tough
the pure talent of Durrant Westbrook combo
one of the greatest ever in Lebron with Irving as a legit all star
still in whole winning back in those days was tougher and what Thomas did taking out 3/10 greatest players of all time with a full team support is amazing.
Players didn't also sit out games to "rest", and they didn't get shutdown if they coudn't make finals. Give me a comp with the following lineups over todays any day:
Utah - Malone & Stockton
Houston - Hakeem
Orlando - Shaq & Penny
Bulls - MJ & Pippen
Phoenix - Barkley
Lakers - Magic & Kareem
Seattle - Kemp & Payton
Charlotte - LJ & Mourning
NY - Ewing & Starks
Indiana - Reggie
comparable teams today
OKC - Durant & Westbrook
GSW - Curry
Spurs - Duncan, Aldridge & Kawhi
Rumours flying everywhere that George Karl wont be the Kings coach past the All Star Weekend.
http://basketball.realgm.com/wiretap/240718/Kings-Intend-To-Fire-George-Karl-Before-All-Star-Break
http://fansided.com/2016/02/08/report-sacramento-kings-plan-fire-head-coach-george-karl-coming-days/?utm_source=FanSided&utm_medium=Network&utm_campaign=Around%20the%20Network
http://www.csnbayarea.com/kings/rewind-spiraling-kings-show-little-interest-cleveland
http://www.sactownroyalty.com/2016/2/8/10947386/the-sacramento-kings-will-fire-george-karl-before-the-all-star-break
Quote from: valkorum on February 09, 2016, 06:57:18 PM
Rumours flying everywhere that George Karl wont be the Kings coach past the All Star Weekend.
http://basketball.realgm.com/wiretap/240718/Kings-Intend-To-Fire-George-Karl-Before-All-Star-Break
http://fansided.com/2016/02/08/report-sacramento-kings-plan-fire-head-coach-george-karl-coming-days/?utm_source=FanSided&utm_medium=Network&utm_campaign=Around%20the%20Network
http://www.csnbayarea.com/kings/rewind-spiraling-kings-show-little-interest-cleveland
http://www.sactownroyalty.com/2016/2/8/10947386/the-sacramento-kings-will-fire-george-karl-before-the-all-star-break
Yeah Rondo and Cousins have both spoken about it, one of them was quoted as saying theres not much you can do at training when only 5 guys show up...not good.
Quote from: jvalles69 on February 09, 2016, 07:56:06 PM
Quote from: valkorum on February 09, 2016, 06:57:18 PM
Rumours flying everywhere that George Karl wont be the Kings coach past the All Star Weekend.
http://basketball.realgm.com/wiretap/240718/Kings-Intend-To-Fire-George-Karl-Before-All-Star-Break
http://fansided.com/2016/02/08/report-sacramento-kings-plan-fire-head-coach-george-karl-coming-days/?utm_source=FanSided&utm_medium=Network&utm_campaign=Around%20the%20Network
http://www.csnbayarea.com/kings/rewind-spiraling-kings-show-little-interest-cleveland
http://www.sactownroyalty.com/2016/2/8/10947386/the-sacramento-kings-will-fire-george-karl-before-the-all-star-break
Yeah Rondo and Cousins have both spoken about it, one of them was quoted as saying theres not much you can do at training when only 5 guys show up...not good.
^ It was an optional shootaround after a back to back
Quote from: plumdog millionaire on February 09, 2016, 08:23:32 PM
Quote from: jvalles69 on February 09, 2016, 07:56:06 PM
Quote from: valkorum on February 09, 2016, 06:57:18 PM
Rumours flying everywhere that George Karl wont be the Kings coach past the All Star Weekend.
http://basketball.realgm.com/wiretap/240718/Kings-Intend-To-Fire-George-Karl-Before-All-Star-Break
http://fansided.com/2016/02/08/report-sacramento-kings-plan-fire-head-coach-george-karl-coming-days/?utm_source=FanSided&utm_medium=Network&utm_campaign=Around%20the%20Network
http://www.csnbayarea.com/kings/rewind-spiraling-kings-show-little-interest-cleveland
http://www.sactownroyalty.com/2016/2/8/10947386/the-sacramento-kings-will-fire-george-karl-before-the-all-star-break
Yeah Rondo and Cousins have both spoken about it, one of them was quoted as saying theres not much you can do at training when only 5 guys show up...not good.
^ It was an optional shootaround after a back to back
I didn't see that bit, but would assume as a professional athlete wanting to play for your team you'd turn up...
After losing 7 out of 8, you would think you NEED to turn up.
Quote from: Holz on February 09, 2016, 10:47:22 AM
Quote from: Jayman on February 08, 2016, 11:19:18 PM
I think it's fair enough that Curry is ranked over IT. Isiah although being the focal point of those Pistons teams, it's not close to what Steph is doing. Steph single handedly takes a pretty good team, to an all-time dominant team. I don't think Isiah did that. I think Havlicek is in a similar boat. Great player but isn't the reason for dominance like Curry is.
Ill address this one first, will be interesting to see what you come back with.
Isiah Thomas has two rings
his first when he had to beat James Worthy, Kareem and Magic in the finals in the year Magic was the league MVP and not only did that but did that in a sweep. Dumars did get the mvp but Isiah was probably the second best player on team comfortably much like steph was this year.
the difference Warriors 4-2 against 1 of the big 3. Pistons 4-0 against showtime
Ill also remind you that they had to take out a young Michael Jordan who was in his 5th year of his career so no rookie.
his second ring he had to come up against Michael Jordan in his 6th year as they made a big push and took them out in a 7 game series. This was with pippen and right before they three peated so they were close to elite.
his second ring he came up against clyde drexter who had knocked out a primed David Robinson on the way to the finals. they won 4-1 and Isiah picked up the Finals MVP
im sorry but 2 rings taking out the likes of Jordan, Pippen just before they three peated, taking out showtime lakers with worthy kareem and magic and then a finals MVP against clyde drexler and his squad.
Is far far more impressive then being the second best player in a finals team who took out a team with their second and third best players gone taking 6 games to do it. i dont care that they played Lebron nobody alone can do it, Jordan with Pippen couldnt even beat the pistons.
I should also add they waltzed into the finals on the back of playing teams with no PGs their floor admirals.
Im sorry but Stephs regualr season record is great 2 MVPs 1 scoring title, best 3 point shooting season ever.
his playoff resume is nothing, to me its not even close to top 100 of all time.
He can change that this year with a finals MVP and some wins against the spurs/thunder/cavs (hopefully fit) but for now he has shown me nothing.
putting him ahead of Thomas is disrespectful at this point.
here is a question.
I propose you this.
Warriors v Cavs last year.
Irving Love fully fit and Klay Thompson, Draymond Green dont play.
how do you have that game playing out?
I'm not doubting that Isiah was a great, but just don't think he was ever as dominant as Curry. In Isiah's best ever statistical season, the Pistons went 46-36 and lost in the second round with Isiah finishing 9th in the MVP voting. Curry's best ever season (not including the one in progress), the Warriors went 67-15, won the championship without even being forced to a game 7, and Steph won the MVP. If you think that Jrue Holiday, Pat Beverley and Mike Conley are such amazing players that the Warriors should have an asterisk next to how they got to the finals - then you might want to re-think how you rate those guys. And if you want to talk about roads to the finals, Cleveland's wasn't exactly a blood-bath. An inexperienced and severely lacking in talent Boston team, a washed up Chicago Bulls and an over achieving, injured Hawks team.
In Isiah's amazing first ring you speak of, he had an 18.6 PER in the playoffs - that mark would rank 54th in this current NBA season. Vinnie Johnson led that Pistons post-season in PER. Dumars led them in Win Shares. John Salley led them in Win Shares per 48 minutes. Over the regular season it was Dantley who led the team in PER and offensive rating, Laimbeer had the most win shares and defensive rating. Statistically speaking, Isiah was little more than just a good player on those Pistons teams. In the finals, Dumars was far better than Isiah. Salley and Laimbeer with their defense, Rodman with his rebounding were just as crucial in those finals as Isiah.
You look at the season where Isiah won his next ring. Led the team in PER by 0.1. Laimbeer led the team in Win Shares, Box Plus-Minus, defensive rating and VORP. Rodman led the team in offensive rating. Everything I'm looking at suggests that Detroit was an all-round great team in particular defensively, with many very good players. Isiah doesn't stand out from the crowd. On the surface, it does seem like Isiah had an amazing 1989-90 playoff run.. But is it fair to say that the eastern conference finals that year vs Jordan was basically the finals that year? Isiah went 17.6 points, 40% shooting.
Point is, Isiah didn't take down Jordan, Magic etc as you say he did. The Detroit Pistons beat those guys. Steph was convincingly the best player on the Warriors all regular season, all playoffs and the finals MVP was a 50/50 that should have probably gone to Steph.
As for your hypothetical, that's completely unfair. Draymond is far superior to both Irving and Love. Even Klay Thompson is a much better player than Love. Klay vs Irving is a contest. Cleveland just weren't as good of a team as Golden State last year, injury ridden or not. Golden State had a 10.1 point differential last year, that ranks 8th all-time - they have a 12.6 this year which if they keep up will rank as the best ever (well actually the Spurs are at 13.4 right now so GSW might break the previous record and still not be first - crazy we have 2 all-time elite teams in the same season). Cleveland are really good but they just aren't in the same league.
Quote from: Jayman on February 10, 2016, 01:50:06 AM
Quote from: Holz on February 09, 2016, 10:47:22 AM
Quote from: Jayman on February 08, 2016, 11:19:18 PM
I think it's fair enough that Curry is ranked over IT. Isiah although being the focal point of those Pistons teams, it's not close to what Steph is doing. Steph single handedly takes a pretty good team, to an all-time dominant team. I don't think Isiah did that. I think Havlicek is in a similar boat. Great player but isn't the reason for dominance like Curry is.
Ill address this one first, will be interesting to see what you come back with.
Isiah Thomas has two rings
his first when he had to beat James Worthy, Kareem and Magic in the finals in the year Magic was the league MVP and not only did that but did that in a sweep. Dumars did get the mvp but Isiah was probably the second best player on team comfortably much like steph was this year.
the difference Warriors 4-2 against 1 of the big 3. Pistons 4-0 against showtime
Ill also remind you that they had to take out a young Michael Jordan who was in his 5th year of his career so no rookie.
his second ring he had to come up against Michael Jordan in his 6th year as they made a big push and took them out in a 7 game series. This was with pippen and right before they three peated so they were close to elite.
his second ring he came up against clyde drexter who had knocked out a primed David Robinson on the way to the finals. they won 4-1 and Isiah picked up the Finals MVP
im sorry but 2 rings taking out the likes of Jordan, Pippen just before they three peated, taking out showtime lakers with worthy kareem and magic and then a finals MVP against clyde drexler and his squad.
Is far far more impressive then being the second best player in a finals team who took out a team with their second and third best players gone taking 6 games to do it. i dont care that they played Lebron nobody alone can do it, Jordan with Pippen couldnt even beat the pistons.
I should also add they waltzed into the finals on the back of playing teams with no PGs their floor admirals.
Im sorry but Stephs regualr season record is great 2 MVPs 1 scoring title, best 3 point shooting season ever.
his playoff resume is nothing, to me its not even close to top 100 of all time.
He can change that this year with a finals MVP and some wins against the spurs/thunder/cavs (hopefully fit) but for now he has shown me nothing.
putting him ahead of Thomas is disrespectful at this point.
here is a question.
I propose you this.
Warriors v Cavs last year.
Irving Love fully fit and Klay Thompson, Draymond Green dont play.
how do you have that game playing out?
I'm not doubting that Isiah was a great, but just don't think he was ever as dominant as Curry. In Isiah's best ever statistical season, the Pistons went 46-36 and lost in the second round with Isiah finishing 9th in the MVP voting. Curry's best ever season (not including the one in progress), the Warriors went 67-15, won the championship without even being forced to a game 7, and Steph won the MVP. If you think that Jrue Holiday, Pat Beverley and Mike Conley are such amazing players that the Warriors should have an asterisk next to how they got to the finals - then you might want to re-think how you rate those guys. And if you want to talk about roads to the finals, Cleveland's wasn't exactly a blood-bath. An inexperienced and severely lacking in talent Boston team, a washed up Chicago Bulls and an over achieving, injured Hawks team.
In Isiah's amazing first ring you speak of, he had an 18.6 PER in the playoffs - that mark would rank 54th in this current NBA season. Vinnie Johnson led that Pistons post-season in PER. Dumars led them in Win Shares. John Salley led them in Win Shares per 48 minutes. Over the regular season it was Dantley who led the team in PER and offensive rating, Laimbeer had the most win shares and defensive rating. Statistically speaking, Isiah was little more than just a good player on those Pistons teams. In the finals, Dumars was far better than Isiah. Salley and Laimbeer with their defense, Rodman with his rebounding were just as crucial in those finals as Isiah.
You look at the season where Isiah won his next ring. Led the team in PER by 0.1. Laimbeer led the team in Win Shares, Box Plus-Minus, defensive rating and VORP. Rodman led the team in offensive rating. Everything I'm looking at suggests that Detroit was an all-round great team in particular defensively, with many very good players. Isiah doesn't stand out from the crowd. On the surface, it does seem like Isiah had an amazing 1989-90 playoff run.. But is it fair to say that the eastern conference finals that year vs Jordan was basically the finals that year? Isiah went 17.6 points, 40% shooting.
Point is, Isiah didn't take down Jordan, Magic etc as you say he did. The Detroit Pistons beat those guys. Steph was convincingly the best player on the Warriors all regular season, all playoffs and the finals MVP was a 50/50 that should have probably gone to Steph.
As for your hypothetical, that's completely unfair. Draymond is far superior to both Irving and Love. Even Klay Thompson is a much better player than Love. Klay vs Irving is a contest. Cleveland just weren't as good of a team as Golden State last year, injury ridden or not. Golden State had a 10.1 point differential last year, that ranks 8th all-time - they have a 12.6 this year which if they keep up will rank as the best ever (well actually the Spurs are at 13.4 right now so GSW might break the previous record and still not be first - crazy we have 2 all-time elite teams in the same season). Cleveland are really good but they just aren't in the same league.
I completely disagree with the bolded statement in your last paragraph. Kyrie and Love are as good if not better on any other team in the NBA. If Dray and Klay were the main guys on on any other team, no way are they as good as they are on that GSW roster...NO WAY. They've discovered the key to playing selflessly and efficiently together which is a damn hard thing to do, but both those guys numbers go down the toilet if they are the main men on another team. Yep, Love didn't take his T'wolves far on his own, and Kyrie the same with the Cavs, but they both put up great numbers and were consistent all-stars...Dray and Klay wouldn't be close to all-star status if they were the lone hand on another team...
The gap isn't as big when you consider that Draymond is a top 5 defender in the league
Quote from: jvalles69 on February 10, 2016, 03:27:12 AM
Quote from: Jayman on February 10, 2016, 01:50:06 AM
Quote from: Holz on February 09, 2016, 10:47:22 AM
Quote from: Jayman on February 08, 2016, 11:19:18 PM
I think it's fair enough that Curry is ranked over IT. Isiah although being the focal point of those Pistons teams, it's not close to what Steph is doing. Steph single handedly takes a pretty good team, to an all-time dominant team. I don't think Isiah did that. I think Havlicek is in a similar boat. Great player but isn't the reason for dominance like Curry is.
Ill address this one first, will be interesting to see what you come back with.
Isiah Thomas has two rings
his first when he had to beat James Worthy, Kareem and Magic in the finals in the year Magic was the league MVP and not only did that but did that in a sweep. Dumars did get the mvp but Isiah was probably the second best player on team comfortably much like steph was this year.
the difference Warriors 4-2 against 1 of the big 3. Pistons 4-0 against showtime
Ill also remind you that they had to take out a young Michael Jordan who was in his 5th year of his career so no rookie.
his second ring he had to come up against Michael Jordan in his 6th year as they made a big push and took them out in a 7 game series. This was with pippen and right before they three peated so they were close to elite.
his second ring he came up against clyde drexter who had knocked out a primed David Robinson on the way to the finals. they won 4-1 and Isiah picked up the Finals MVP
im sorry but 2 rings taking out the likes of Jordan, Pippen just before they three peated, taking out showtime lakers with worthy kareem and magic and then a finals MVP against clyde drexler and his squad.
Is far far more impressive then being the second best player in a finals team who took out a team with their second and third best players gone taking 6 games to do it. i dont care that they played Lebron nobody alone can do it, Jordan with Pippen couldnt even beat the pistons.
I should also add they waltzed into the finals on the back of playing teams with no PGs their floor admirals.
Im sorry but Stephs regualr season record is great 2 MVPs 1 scoring title, best 3 point shooting season ever.
his playoff resume is nothing, to me its not even close to top 100 of all time.
He can change that this year with a finals MVP and some wins against the spurs/thunder/cavs (hopefully fit) but for now he has shown me nothing.
putting him ahead of Thomas is disrespectful at this point.
here is a question.
I propose you this.
Warriors v Cavs last year.
Irving Love fully fit and Klay Thompson, Draymond Green dont play.
how do you have that game playing out?
I'm not doubting that Isiah was a great, but just don't think he was ever as dominant as Curry. In Isiah's best ever statistical season, the Pistons went 46-36 and lost in the second round with Isiah finishing 9th in the MVP voting. Curry's best ever season (not including the one in progress), the Warriors went 67-15, won the championship without even being forced to a game 7, and Steph won the MVP. If you think that Jrue Holiday, Pat Beverley and Mike Conley are such amazing players that the Warriors should have an asterisk next to how they got to the finals - then you might want to re-think how you rate those guys. And if you want to talk about roads to the finals, Cleveland's wasn't exactly a blood-bath. An inexperienced and severely lacking in talent Boston team, a washed up Chicago Bulls and an over achieving, injured Hawks team.
In Isiah's amazing first ring you speak of, he had an 18.6 PER in the playoffs - that mark would rank 54th in this current NBA season. Vinnie Johnson led that Pistons post-season in PER. Dumars led them in Win Shares. John Salley led them in Win Shares per 48 minutes. Over the regular season it was Dantley who led the team in PER and offensive rating, Laimbeer had the most win shares and defensive rating. Statistically speaking, Isiah was little more than just a good player on those Pistons teams. In the finals, Dumars was far better than Isiah. Salley and Laimbeer with their defense, Rodman with his rebounding were just as crucial in those finals as Isiah.
You look at the season where Isiah won his next ring. Led the team in PER by 0.1. Laimbeer led the team in Win Shares, Box Plus-Minus, defensive rating and VORP. Rodman led the team in offensive rating. Everything I'm looking at suggests that Detroit was an all-round great team in particular defensively, with many very good players. Isiah doesn't stand out from the crowd. On the surface, it does seem like Isiah had an amazing 1989-90 playoff run.. But is it fair to say that the eastern conference finals that year vs Jordan was basically the finals that year? Isiah went 17.6 points, 40% shooting.
Point is, Isiah didn't take down Jordan, Magic etc as you say he did. The Detroit Pistons beat those guys. Steph was convincingly the best player on the Warriors all regular season, all playoffs and the finals MVP was a 50/50 that should have probably gone to Steph.
As for your hypothetical, that's completely unfair. Draymond is far superior to both Irving and Love. Even Klay Thompson is a much better player than Love. Klay vs Irving is a contest. Cleveland just weren't as good of a team as Golden State last year, injury ridden or not. Golden State had a 10.1 point differential last year, that ranks 8th all-time - they have a 12.6 this year which if they keep up will rank as the best ever (well actually the Spurs are at 13.4 right now so GSW might break the previous record and still not be first - crazy we have 2 all-time elite teams in the same season). Cleveland are really good but they just aren't in the same league.
I completely disagree with the bolded statement in your last paragraph. Kyrie and Love are as good if not better on any other team in the NBA. If Dray and Klay were the main guys on on any other team, no way are they as good as they are on that GSW roster...NO WAY. They've discovered the key to playing selflessly and efficiently together which is a damn hard thing to do, but both those guys numbers go down the toilet if they are the main men on another team. Yep, Love didn't take his T'wolves far on his own, and Kyrie the same with the Cavs, but they both put up great numbers and were consistent all-stars...Dray and Klay wouldn't be close to all-star status if they were the lone hand on another team...
Jay your great stats had me going, yep fair point, good call. I still disagree as thomas was the leader of that team and orchastrated it all as the point.
You lost me on green over irving.
Irving is a top 5 talent on offense. Green having a great year but he hasnt supassed irving even with irving lack of d.
Klay doenst come close to irving.
Quote from: plumdog millionaire on February 10, 2016, 06:54:03 AM
The gap isn't as big when you consider that Draymond is a top 5 defender in the league
for 1 year
Irving a top 5 offensive player for the last few years.
defense is also kinf of influenced by your team. Irving can score in any system
Apparently the Kings are NOT firing Coach Karl
http://basketball.realgm.com/wiretap/240724/Kings-Decide-Not-To-Fire-George-Karl
Quote from: Holz on February 10, 2016, 10:17:03 AM
Quote from: plumdog millionaire on February 10, 2016, 06:54:03 AM
The gap isn't as big when you consider that Draymond is a top 5 defender in the league
for 1 year
Irving a top 5 offensive player for the last few years.
defense is also kinf of influenced by your team. Irving can score in any system
I'm going to respectfully disagree on all three counts:
1. It's more than one year, it's all of last year and this season; it's a safe assumption he'll continue to be elite through this year and right now Draymond is a top 5 defender there's no argument to that.
2. Last few years yes, but not clearly top 5. If you're talking all round offensive players, give me LeBron, Durant, Melo, Steph, Harden and CP3. Irving is in a pool with Griffin, Westbrook, Cousins, and even Wade and Duncan if you're talking since Irving was drafted.
3. No. Offensive players can look good on some teams (or systems) as opposed to others but only to the slightest extent is the opposite true. Bad defenders can be hid and masked on good defensive schemes but we're not talking about that with Dray.
I like Irving as a player, and when you consider basketball I think offence is slightly more important than defence (About 60% offence vs 40% defence in my opinion) just because great offence can beat great defence, disagree with that if you may. But give me a choice between him or Draymond and I'm going to have a hard time picking one over the other.
Quote from: plumdog millionaire on February 10, 2016, 01:56:47 PM
Quote from: Holz on February 10, 2016, 10:17:03 AM
Quote from: plumdog millionaire on February 10, 2016, 06:54:03 AM
The gap isn't as big when you consider that Draymond is a top 5 defender in the league
for 1 year
Irving a top 5 offensive player for the last few years.
defense is also kinf of influenced by your team. Irving can score in any system
I'm going to respectfully disagree on all three counts:
1. It's more than one year, it's all of last year and this season; it's a safe assumption he'll continue to be elite through this year and right now Draymond is a top 5 defender there's no argument to that.
2. Last few years yes, but not clearly top 5. If you're talking all round offensive players, give me LeBron, Durant, Melo, Steph, Harden and CP3. Irving is in a pool with Griffin, Westbrook, Cousins, and even Wade and Duncan if you're talking since Irving was drafted.
3. No. Offensive players can look good on some teams (or systems) as opposed to others but only to the slightest extent is the opposite true. Bad defenders can be hid and masked on good defensive schemes but we're not talking about that with Dray.
I like Irving as a player, and when you consider basketball I think offence is slightly more important than defence (About 60% offence vs 40% defence in my opinion) just because great offence can beat great defence, disagree with that if you may. But give me a choice between him or Draymond and I'm going to have a hard time picking one over the other.
I think the statements are made in relation to if Dray or Kyrie played on any team (thats what my opinions based on anyway), I think Kyrie would be Kyrie on any NBA team, but Dray would not be GSW Dray on every NBA team.
I'll give you that Irving is a better offensive player than Draymond, simply because creating your own shot is a major skill. But it is closer than you think. The Warriors have the best offense in the league, and Draymond leads them in assists, keep in mind he is a power forward and also plays 18% of his minutes at centre. No surprise that he has the best assist % in the league among forwards and centres.
He keeps an offense rolling which is by far the best in Warriors history and is even much improved from last year. Obviously having Stephen Curry makes his job so much easier, but still being the 2nd best offensive player on this team is a pretty huge deal (could make the argument for Klay but I would lean towards Draymond. Is close though).
ESPN have Draymond 13th in their offensive real plus-minus. Irving is 69th but I don't put much weight to that as he's been coming back from injury and was 10th in that stat last year. But still shows that Draymond isn't exactly a zero on offense. Draymond is shooting 3.3 threes a game this season and hitting 42% of them which is pretty damn valuable too.
As for defense, it isn't even close. I think Draymond is a top 2 defender in the league - he finished 2nd to Kawhi in the defensive player of the year voting last year. And was obviously all defensive first-team. He was first in ESPN's defensive real plus-minus last year, and is 4th this year. Opponents are shooting 37.6% this season when guarded by Draymond - pretty incredible. He can switch out onto the perimeter and guard guys out there, and only allows 42.2% when he's protecting the rim which is the 3rd best mark in the league.
To put it simply :P Kyrie offense > Draymond.. Draymond defense >>> Kyrie
Quote from: Jayman on February 10, 2016, 03:13:40 PM
I'll give you that Irving is a better offensive player than Draymond, simply because creating your own shot is a major skill. But it is closer than you think. The Warriors have the best offense in the league, and Draymond leads them in assists, keep in mind he is a power forward and also plays 18% of his minutes at centre. No surprise that he has the best assist % in the league among forwards and centres.
He keeps an offense rolling which is by far the best in Warriors history and is even much improved from last year. Obviously having Stephen Curry makes his job so much easier, but still being the 2nd best offensive player on this team is a pretty huge deal (could make the argument for Klay but I would lean towards Draymond. Is close though).
ESPN have Draymond 13th in their offensive real plus-minus. Irving is 69th but I don't put much weight to that as he's been coming back from injury and was 10th in that stat last year. But still shows that Draymond isn't exactly a zero on offense. Draymond is shooting 3.3 threes a game this season and hitting 42% of them which is pretty damn valuable too.
As for defense, it isn't even close. I think Draymond is a top 2 defender in the league - he finished 2nd to Kawhi in the defensive player of the year voting last year. And was obviously all defensive first-team. He was first in ESPN's defensive real plus-minus last year, and is 4th this year. Opponents are shooting 37.6% this season when guarded by Draymond - pretty incredible. He can switch out onto the perimeter and guard guys out there, and only allows 42.2% when he's protecting the rim which is the 3rd best mark in the league.
To put it simply :P Kyrie offense > Draymond.. Draymond defense >>> Kyrie
Irving is not > green on offense.
Irving is coming off a bad injury and still putting up 18.3 points a game, however in the last month when he has got back to almost himself he is putting up 26.2 points on 54.3% fg with 6.6 assists.
I know Green does get quite a few assists but irving is historically only 1 assist less then green is going at now. Thats why Lebron being more of a Point then Curry is.
Green is a decent liability on FT (as most C are) whereas Irving is almost automatic and his 14.4 points a game cant compare to the offensive powerhouse of a fit kyrie irving.
Green is in a great system but he is in no means an offesnive player even comparable to irving. Irving could probably go to half the teams in the NBA and contend for a scoring title if healthy.
I would love to see Green do this
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5XcQmOQO78Q (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5XcQmOQO78Q)
defensively Irving isnt close to Green but offensively its the same
Quote from: valkorum on February 10, 2016, 11:41:01 AM
Apparently the Kings are NOT firing Coach Karl
http://basketball.realgm.com/wiretap/240724/Kings-Decide-Not-To-Fire-George-Karl
bloody hell, surely it's only a matter of time, he knows about it, as if he wants to continue to coach them
plenty of decent coaches available atm too
the final second of Bucks Vs Celtics is mega LOL... mega ;D
the only thing stopping the cavs in my mind is this
Lebron James
2013: 40.6% 3pt
2014: 37.9% 3pt
2015: 34.4% 3pt
2016: 27.0% 3pt
based on his number of shots taken this year he has lost 0.5 points a game just from this. Not only that but missed 3 pointers can often lead to fast break points against.
he was turning into a great outside shooter im not sure what happend.
I see your point on Kyrie's fantastic ability to create his own shot, Holz. And that video is very impressive - not many guys can do that. But Draymond does other really important things on offense too. Have a look at this article.. http://uproxx.com/dimemag/draymond-green-4-on-3-stephen-curry-warriors/
It's incredible, he has such a high offensive IQ, makes the correct decisions whether to shoot or pass, and executes it well. I don't think Kyrie has that in him. Kyrie isn't close to the facilitator or offensive cog that Draymond is. They both do such different things well so it's hard to say who is better but my point is just that it's closer than you think.
Quote from: RiOtChEsS on February 10, 2016, 04:37:36 PM
the final second of Bucks Vs Celtics is mega LOL... mega ;D
Yeah this was bad. Coming back from 18 down with 8 minutes to go was very impressive, and then President Stevens drawing up a sick out of bounds play where Kelly got the foul - made two huge free throws. But then down the other end was just a complete mental lapse. Why go for the steal when the other option is a contested turn around over two defenders.
Quote from: Jayman on February 11, 2016, 12:44:25 AM
I see your point on Kyrie's fantastic ability to create his own shot, Holz. And that video is very impressive - not many guys can do that. But Draymond does other really important things on offense too. Have a look at this article.. http://uproxx.com/dimemag/draymond-green-4-on-3-stephen-curry-warriors/
It's incredible, he has such a high offensive IQ, makes the correct decisions whether to shoot or pass, and executes it well. I don't think Kyrie has that in him. Kyrie isn't close to the facilitator or offensive cog that Draymond is. They both do such different things well so it's hard to say who is better but my point is just that it's closer than you think.
Quote from: RiOtChEsS on February 10, 2016, 04:37:36 PM
the final second of Bucks Vs Celtics is mega LOL... mega ;D
Yeah this was bad. Coming back from 18 down with 8 minutes to go was very impressive, and then President Stevens drawing up a sick out of bounds play where Kelly got the foul - made two huge free throws. But then down the other end was just a complete mental lapse. Why go for the steal when the other option is a contested turn around over two defenders.
Conversation 1
Id take Draymond over Kyrie anyday of the week
Draymond's style of play only helps a team
Kyrie's style is out dated, iso ball is all but dead when it comes to winning championships, cant defend and halts ball movement
Conversation 2
I was shocked after the bone head foul by the Bucks and it's effect that the Celtic's would unravel like that
4 game suspension for Blake Griffin, what a joke ::)
Quote from: RiOtChEsS on February 11, 2016, 12:15:30 PM
4 game suspension for Blake Griffin, what a joke ::)
why's that?
I don't know much about the incident mind you - i'd read he'd injured his own hand/arm??
Sixers really need to move on Noel,
surely you could get quite abit for a rim protector.
with him out and Okafor the paint all to himself has put up 26 points 10 rebounds 5 assits 2 blocks with 5 minutes to go against demarcus cousins.
apparently have offers for both guys but they are waiting on the health of embiid.
Chris Paul, still a point god.
Leonard saving Spurs from going to OT against the Magic after a massive 3 from Fournier.
Chris Paul is having the best game I've seen all season.
Oh and news flash, Lance is still a complete knucklehead :P hit a three, trash talked everyone on the Celtic bench and whinged when he got a tech.
Quote from: Holz on February 11, 2016, 02:04:19 PM
Sixers really need to move on Noel,
surely you could get quite abit for a rim protector.
with him out and Okafor the paint all to himself has put up 26 points 10 rebounds 5 assits 2 blocks with 5 minutes to go against demarcus cousins.
apparently have offers for both guys but they are waiting on the health of embiid.
They are more likely to move Jah if Embiid gets healthy. Noel since the arrival of Ish smith leads the league in FG%, is active on the defensive side of the ball with blocks and steals and is actually a decent passer for a big guy. Jah is a better post up player and his moves are insane in the law post for a rookie, but Embiid is a similar player with better range. They argue that Jojo is the 6'ers best 3pt shooter but he hasn't been on the court yet, this means he can probably play that stretch 4 because teams have to respect his outside shooting ability and it allows Noel to play the 5. Again, this all depends on the health of Embiid, if he can't get healthy they keep both and figure out a way to make it work with a 3 man rotation involving Saric.
ISAIAH FREAKING THOMAS! Dude is a fantastic player
Overtime.
IT DA GOD
All Star baby
Irving just put up
35 points on 62.5% FG with 3/6 3 pointers and 7 assits.
Green better have a huge second half coming off 8 points last night and 6 points almost halfway through the 3rd.
they are not close offensively.
But Draymond on offence > Kyrie on defence
So taking your assumption that Kyrie is a top 5 offensive player and Draymond is at worst a top 5 defensive player then overall they are very verrrryyyy close in terms of value.
This is one of the games of the year
Quote from: Mat0369 on February 11, 2016, 03:04:24 PM
Quote from: Holz on February 11, 2016, 02:04:19 PM
Sixers really need to move on Noel,
surely you could get quite abit for a rim protector.
with him out and Okafor the paint all to himself has put up 26 points 10 rebounds 5 assits 2 blocks with 5 minutes to go against demarcus cousins.
apparently have offers for both guys but they are waiting on the health of embiid.
They are more likely to move Jah if Embiid gets healthy. Noel since the arrival of Ish smith leads the league in FG%, is active on the defensive side of the ball with blocks and steals and is actually a decent passer for a big guy. Jah is a better post up player and his moves are insane in the law post for a rookie, but Embiid is a similar player with better range. They argue that Jojo is the 6'ers best 3pt shooter but he hasn't been on the court yet, this means he can probably play that stretch 4 because teams have to respect his outside shooting ability and it allows Noel to play the 5. Again, this all depends on the health of Embiid, if he can't get healthy they keep both and figure out a way to make it work with a 3 man rotation involving Saric.
potentially true im a huge Okafor fan and would like to see him the focal point of the team, if it wasnt for this off field stuff then people should be all over him. Teams should make a big play for okafor, i just think okafor is more talented then noel so if you only have one then you build around okafor. Getting all 3 was a mistake but they kind of had to with Okafor and Embiid both slipping when they were number 1 or two players.
they certainly have alot of pieces and if can pull off some good trades then could move up quickly.
really would like to see okafor thrive in a team built around him, really can see him as a franchise player. Noel is a very very good role player but not a franchise guy in my books.
Quote from: plumdog millionaire on February 11, 2016, 03:32:56 PM
But Draymond on offence > Kyrie on defence
So taking your assumption that Kyrie is a top 5 offensive player and Draymond is at worst a top 5 defensive player then overall they are very verrrryyyy close in terms of value.
this was the call from Jay
Draymond is far superior to both Irving
that is ridiculous irving kills green on offense, the call was made they are similar on offense which i completely disagree with. This season as a player green is above irving.
Kyrie needs to get fit and he will overtake him though.
Remeber Green is young being 25 but Kyrie is only 23 and has 1 year more experience in the NBA.
Quote from: Holz on February 11, 2016, 03:39:00 PM
Quote from: plumdog millionaire on February 11, 2016, 03:32:56 PM
But Draymond on offence > Kyrie on defence
So taking your assumption that Kyrie is a top 5 offensive player and Draymond is at worst a top 5 defensive player then overall they are very verrrryyyy close in terms of value.
this was the call from Jay
Draymond is far superior to both Irving
that is ridiculous irving kills green on offense, the call was made they are similar on offense which i completely disagree with. This season as a player green is above irving.
Kyrie needs to get fit and he will overtake him though.
Remeber Green is young being 25 but Kyrie is only 23 and has 1 year more experience in the NBA.
My call was that they are close to even on offense, maybe slightly in favour of Kyrie, but then Draymond kills him on defense - hence why he is far more valuable. As Riot brought up.. I'm not sure the skills Irving has, contribute as much to a successful offense anymore. Ball stopping iso ball isn't going to win championships.
Draymond has proven he can be the 2nd best player on a championship team, and one that is about to be 48-4. Your turn Kyrie.
So that's wins over the Clippers, and Cavs for Boston heading into the all-star break
Quote from: Jayman on February 11, 2016, 03:54:38 PM
Draymond has proven he can be the 2nd best player on a championship team, and one that is about to be 48-4. Your turn Kyrie.
not really last year I think lots of people would argue that Klay was the number 2. He certainly was on the offensive side of the ball.
when it came to that series Iggy Curry were number 1 and 2.
in the one game Irving played through injury in the series by the way he went 23 points 6 assits and 1 turn over
by the way went 4 steals 2 blocks not bad for a man with no D
all i need is kyrie to stay fit. Crossing my fingers for that. then he can let his game do the talking.
got another clip for people to watch. from game 1 of the finals last year.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ilv4dt54_Fw (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ilv4dt54_Fw)
So what's the conclusion in the end? Kinda gets lost in the discussion
Quote from: plumdog millionaire on February 11, 2016, 04:25:17 PM
So what's the conclusion in the end? Kinda gets lost in the discussion
That the Warriors, mainly because of Steph, followed by Draymond - two elite, and impossible to replicate players - are one of the best teams of the modern era.
Holz?
Quote from: Holz on February 11, 2016, 03:36:02 PM
potentially true im a huge Okafor fan and would like to see him the focal point of the team, if it wasnt for this off field stuff then people should be all over him. Teams should make a big play for okafor, i just think okafor is more talented then noel so if you only have one then you build around okafor. Getting all 3 was a mistake but they kind of had to with Okafor and Embiid both slipping when they were number 1 or two players.
they certainly have alot of pieces and if can pull off some good trades then could move up quickly.
really would like to see okafor thrive in a team built around him, really can see him as a franchise player. Noel is a very very good role player but not a franchise guy in my books.
The Lakers should look at releasing the protection on their pick and making Philly an offer. They have a 19.9% chance at pick 1 and 18.1% chance of pick 2 giving them a 38% chance of a top 2 pick. After Simmons and Ingram there isn't a clear cut third guy and Okafor is likely better then all of them. There is also a 44.2% chance they have to give up the pick entirely because it lands outside the top 3 meaning it goes to Philly anyway. So maybe something like Okafor, Covington, Miami pick for Lakers unprotected pick and Jordan Clarkson.
As it stood earlier today with the Kings in the #9 slot, it added 3.7% to Philly's 46.5% chance of a top 2 pick. So they actually currently have a 50.2% chance. If Kings drop to say, 6th, that could increase to 59.9%. If they also received the Lakers unprotected pick, they gain another 38% chance of a top 2 pick giving them 88.2% chance of getting one of Simmons or Ingram.
Basically it means that the Lakers can develop a young core of Okafor, Russell, Randle, Nance Jr and RoCo, still have a first round pick that would give them a shot at someone like Trimble and they have money to bring in two max contract guys apparently.
Meanwhile in Philly they should see two of Simmons/Ingram/Brown/Dunn/Hield depending where the picks land, Saric comes over, Embiid should finally be healthy, they will have another late round first and it will be interesting to see what happens from there.
It makes sense for both teams looking at the percentages of where the picks will land, but there will be sticking points for both teams in regards to who and what should be involved in the deal.
Quote from: Jayman on February 11, 2016, 04:39:10 PM
Quote from: plumdog millionaire on February 11, 2016, 04:25:17 PM
So what's the conclusion in the end? Kinda gets lost in the discussion
That the Warriors, mainly because of Steph, followed by Draymond - two elite, and impossible to replicate players - are one of the best teams of the modern era.
Lebron described it the best, "the most healthy team in NBA history".
Remember when Steph had glass ankles and people thought he was going to be a bust? Times change and he's proved that wrong. 1 big injury to on of their big 3 and they struggle. You can't call a team one of the best teams of the modern era off 2 great seasons! That means you're putting them up their with the Spurs, Boston and even Miami, and I don't think they qualify in that group just yet.
Quote from: jvalles69 on February 11, 2016, 06:22:09 PM
Quote from: Jayman on February 11, 2016, 04:39:10 PM
Quote from: plumdog millionaire on February 11, 2016, 04:25:17 PM
So what's the conclusion in the end? Kinda gets lost in the discussion
That the Warriors, mainly because of Steph, followed by Draymond - two elite, and impossible to replicate players - are one of the best teams of the modern era.
Lebron described it the best, "the most healthy team in NBA history".
Remember when Steph had glass ankles and people thought he was going to be a bust? Times change and he's proved that wrong. 1 big injury to on of their big 3 and they struggle. You can't call a team one of the best teams of the modern era off 2 great seasons! That means you're putting them up their with the Spurs, Boston and even Miami, and I don't think they qualify in that group just yet.
Dude, they're going to break the best record of all-time...
Quote from: Jayman on February 11, 2016, 06:28:42 PM
Quote from: jvalles69 on February 11, 2016, 06:22:09 PM
Quote from: Jayman on February 11, 2016, 04:39:10 PM
Quote from: plumdog millionaire on February 11, 2016, 04:25:17 PM
So what's the conclusion in the end? Kinda gets lost in the discussion
That the Warriors, mainly because of Steph, followed by Draymond - two elite, and impossible to replicate players - are one of the best teams of the modern era.
Lebron described it the best, "the most healthy team in NBA history".
Remember when Steph had glass ankles and people thought he was going to be a bust? Times change and he's proved that wrong. 1 big injury to on of their big 3 and they struggle. You can't call a team one of the best teams of the modern era off 2 great seasons! That means you're putting them up their with the Spurs, Boston and even Miami, and I don't think they qualify in that group just yet.
Dude, they're going to break the best record of all-time...
Once again I don't care! They are not playing the same calibre of teams that the Bulls played in the 90's, players are whining doges these days who get their coaches sacked and have to "rest" so often they may aswell reduce the number of games played during regular season to get some higher quality out of the players! 1 injury and they fall well short of that record...
Also..I don't dislike of hate GSW, and I actually marvel at how ridiculous a shooter Steph Curry is not to mention the handles on the kid, but...people are losing their minds over this team which I think is slightly premature, when they win back to back then I think we can start considering them. I hope Cleveland, Clippers, OKC and Spurs are at full strenght this post season and we get to see some amazing 7 game series, Warriors knock off at least 2 of those fully healthy teams then I'm on board.
Quote from: jvalles69 on February 11, 2016, 06:38:28 PM
Once again I don't care! They are not playing the same calibre of teams that the Bulls played in the 90's, players are whining doges these days who get their coaches sacked and have to "rest" so often they may aswell reduce the number of games played during regular season to get some higher quality out of the players! 1 injury and they fall well short of that record...
It's not just wins and losses though, they are putting up numbers that are unheard of as a team. They were a top 10 team historically last year on numbers and are backing it up with an even better season. People keep doubting them yet they are consistently performing to a level that no other team has in the history of the game.
Oddly enough, the Spurs and Warriors this year are 1 and 2 all time in point differential. Creating a list of 10, out of the 8 other teams on that list, all but 1 won the championship, the team that didn't (Bucks), lost to another team on that list.
Quote from: Mat0369 on February 11, 2016, 07:02:05 PM
Quote from: jvalles69 on February 11, 2016, 06:38:28 PM
Once again I don't care! They are not playing the same calibre of teams that the Bulls played in the 90's, players are whining doges these days who get their coaches sacked and have to "rest" so often they may aswell reduce the number of games played during regular season to get some higher quality out of the players! 1 injury and they fall well short of that record...
It's not just wins and losses though, they are putting up numbers that are unheard of as a team. They were a top 10 team historically last year on numbers and are backing it up with an even better season. People keep doubting them yet they are consistently performing to a level that no other team has in the history of the game.
Oddly enough, the Spurs and Warriors this year are 1 and 2 all time in point differential. Creating a list of 10, out of the 8 other teams on that list, all but 1 won the championship, the team that didn't (Bucks), lost to another team on that list.
I think their are two sides, the doubters and the people who have jumped on them to be the geratest team, this is where I feel fence sitting is justified for while longer. ;)
Quote from: j959 on February 11, 2016, 01:25:58 PM
Quote from: RiOtChEsS on February 11, 2016, 12:15:30 PM
4 game suspension for Blake Griffin, what a joke ::)
why's that?
I don't know much about the incident mind you - i'd read he'd injured his own hand/arm??
he punched an equipment manager in the face at a restaurant, then again out the front of the restaurant, broke his hand ;D
Quote from: RiOtChEsS on February 12, 2016, 10:01:16 AM
he punched an equipment manager in the face at a restaurant, then again out the front of the restaurant, broke his hand ;D
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Dont forget that he actually followed the equipment manager outside to hit him again.
I don't feel that 4 games is enough. I would lose my job if I punched a fellow employee
Quote from: valkorum on February 12, 2016, 11:27:56 AM
Quote from: RiOtChEsS on February 12, 2016, 10:01:16 AM
he punched an equipment manager in the face at a restaurant, then again out the front of the restaurant, broke his hand ;D
Dont forget that he actually followed the equipment manager outside to hit him again.
I don't feel that 4 games is enough. I would lose my job if I punched a fellow employee
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they do seem to get away with anything.
people were calling for Dustin to be banned for a year.
Im sure an AFL player would probably be gone unless it was a superstar. saying that is a bench player in the nba punched someone they would be gone too.
@jayman
Just heard a rumour involving Boston
Kevin Love to Boston
Carmello to Cleveland
Picks to New York
Interesting - Its not a bad deal all round.
Quote from: valkorum on February 13, 2016, 03:27:58 PM
@jayman
Just heard a rumour involving Boston
Kevin Love to Boston
Carmello to Cleveland
Picks to New York
Interesting - Its not a bad deal all round.
How does that work though?
Irving james melo all scorers.
We need defense.
Melo won't go to Cleveland
Quote from: plumdog millionaire on February 13, 2016, 04:23:06 PM
Melo won't go to Cleveland
Why not, more chance of a Ring there than he will ever have at NY
Melo does have a no trade clause in his contract, so he has to agree to the trade.
Latest report I've seen..
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Nothing is happening with Kevin Love (shoulder) and a trade to the Celtics.
There will definitely be rumors around Love heading into the deadline because of how playoff teams attack him in pick-and-roll. Love's shoulder injury seems like it's minor, so he should be ready to roll next week.
Quote from: valkorum on February 13, 2016, 05:36:01 PM
Quote from: plumdog millionaire on February 13, 2016, 04:23:06 PM
Melo won't go to Cleveland
Why not, more chance of a Ring there than he will ever have at NY
Melo does have a no trade clause in his contract, so he has to agree to the trade.
He's mentioned so many times he's not leaving and it seems as if he's moving towards establishing his brand and that which is all based on the opportunities he gets in NY
But hey stranger things have happened
Quote from: valkorum on February 13, 2016, 03:27:58 PM
@jayman
Just heard a rumour involving Boston
Kevin Love to Boston
Carmello to Cleveland
Picks to New York
Interesting - Its not a bad deal all round.
This works on the trade machine.. :)
Boston get: Kevin Love
Cleveland get: Carmelo Anthony
New York get: David Lee, Jared Sullinger, Boston's unprotected 2016 pick (pick 23 right now), Dallas Mavericks 2016 first round pick top 7 protected (pick 19 right now)
Who say's no? Boston get an all-star in Kevin Love. Cleveland get a superior player in Carmelo and let's them go a bit smaller to match up with Golden State. New York get off of Carmelo's 4 year, 22.9 million dollar contract, not sure about you, but 34/35 year old Melo I don't think will be worth that. They also replenish their draft pick stocks and get a decent young player in Sullinger to build around Porzingis.
Quote from: Jayman on February 14, 2016, 12:43:52 PM
Quote from: valkorum on February 13, 2016, 03:27:58 PM
@jayman
Just heard a rumour involving Boston
Kevin Love to Boston
Carmello to Cleveland
Picks to New York
Interesting - Its not a bad deal all round.
This works on the trade machine.. :)
Boston get: Kevin Love
Cleveland get: Carmelo Anthony
New York get: David Lee, Jared Sullinger, Boston's unprotected 2016 pick (pick 23 right now), Dallas Mavericks 2016 first round pick top 7 protected (pick 19 right now)
Who say's no? Boston get an all-star in Kevin Love. Cleveland get a superior player in Carmelo and let's them go a bit smaller to match up with Golden State. New York get off of Carmelo's 4 year, 22.9 million dollar contract, not sure about you, but 34/35 year old Melo I don't think will be worth that. They also replenish their draft pick stocks and get a decent young player in Sullinger to build around Porzingis.
Carmelo says no!
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"There's always some trade s*** going,I don't pay attention to those rumors. I'm not going anywhere."-@carmeloanthony on latest trade rumors
The 3pt contest is the best event by far.
I'd be more impressed with Andre Drummond going 2/2 at the free throw line than dunking it like that.
AARON GORDON :o
They should have given 2 trophies.
That was the best dunk comp since the Vince Carter/Jason Richardson days!
Gordon was considerably more impressive imo.
So that was freaking amazing.
Dunk contest should just be AG and Zach going at it from now on.
Quote from: Jayman on February 14, 2016, 03:58:16 PM
Gordon was considerably more impressive imo.
Gordon had the 2 best dunks, but I wouldn't say he was "considerably" better than LaVine...LaVine did some ridiculous dunks too, but I agree Gordon shouldv'e won.
Quote from: plumdog millionaire on February 14, 2016, 04:09:03 PM
So that was freaking amazing.
Dunk contest should just be AG and Zach going at it from now on.
This. Best dunk contest ever.
Gordon was most definitely robbed, better first 2 dunks and even the 47 was easily 50
Gordon was ROBBED!!
Far out, just doing a dunk under both legs would be awesome.. but to do it while jumping over someone is INSANE
One other thing - LaVine just does under the leg or around the back dunks. I thought he was gonna bring something different this year.
One guy (on a facebook NBA page) swears he sore an article with the following trade... except he says he now can't find the article as proof.
Love, Shumpert to Boston for Bradley, Lee and a 1st round pick.
I just checked it in the trade machine and it works.
Quote from: valkorum on February 15, 2016, 12:30:41 PM
One guy (on a facebook NBA page) swears he sore an article with the following trade... except he says he now can't find the article as proof.
Love, Shumpert to Boston for Bradley, Lee and a 1st round pick.
I just checked it in the trade machine and it works.
why would the cavs do that unless they traded the 1st round pick?
their time is now.
Shumpert better then bradley and Love >>> Lee even though not the biggest love fan.
Quote from: Holz on February 15, 2016, 01:01:33 PM
Quote from: valkorum on February 15, 2016, 12:30:41 PM
One guy (on a facebook NBA page) swears he sore an article with the following trade... except he says he now can't find the article as proof.
Love, Shumpert to Boston for Bradley, Lee and a 1st round pick.
I just checked it in the trade machine and it works.
why would the cavs do that unless they traded the 1st round pick?
their time is now.
Shumpert better then bradley and Love >>> Lee even though not the biggest love fan.
Shumpert is not better than Bradley. But yeah the Cavs would get a lot more than that package if they trade Love.
Quote from: Jayman on February 15, 2016, 01:40:14 PM
Quote from: Holz on February 15, 2016, 01:01:33 PM
Quote from: valkorum on February 15, 2016, 12:30:41 PM
One guy (on a facebook NBA page) swears he sore an article with the following trade... except he says he now can't find the article as proof.
Love, Shumpert to Boston for Bradley, Lee and a 1st round pick.
I just checked it in the trade machine and it works.
why would the cavs do that unless they traded the 1st round pick?
their time is now.
Shumpert better then bradley and Love >>> Lee even though not the biggest love fan.
Shumpert is not better than Bradley. But yeah the Cavs would get a lot more than that package if they trade Love.
Shumpert is still great on d not bradley level though.but he has offensive game aswell. Which bradley is working on but i have shumpert just over bradley overall
Imagine the hype around the farewell tour that Duncan should get when he retires, considering an inferior player in Kobe is having a whole season basically dedicated to him.
Quote from: Jayman on February 15, 2016, 01:47:59 PM
Imagine the hype around the farewell tour that Duncan should get when he retires, considering an inferior player in Kobe is having a whole season basically dedicated to him.
Duncan is easily the superior player. However he will go out quiet, probably after winning a championship and announcing his retirement a week after.
Im actually thinking it could be after they win this year.
Duncan is the ultimate team player, what Kobe is doing has nothing to do with his team.
should i cash out on Paul George for Allstar MVP?
got him at 21/1 and can currently triple my outlay :-\
Quote from: RiOtChEsS on February 15, 2016, 03:05:54 PM
should i cash out on Paul George for Allstar MVP?
got him at 21/1 and can currently triple my outlay :-\
6 times my outlay now :-\ :-\
Quote from: RiOtChEsS on February 15, 2016, 03:17:14 PM
Quote from: RiOtChEsS on February 15, 2016, 03:05:54 PM
should i cash out on Paul George for Allstar MVP?
got him at 21/1 and can currently triple my outlay :-\
6 times my outlay now :-\ :-\
he will win it but kind of feel davis deserves it
12/13 FG for 24 points 6 rebounds and a steal in just 12 minutes is insane.
George probably gets it on the 8/15 3 pointers despite being out there an extra 9 minutes.
the big question is how do Klay and Stephn go great in the 3 point contest then the next day combine for 6/17
Quote from: Holz on February 15, 2016, 03:30:39 PM
Quote from: RiOtChEsS on February 15, 2016, 03:17:14 PM
Quote from: RiOtChEsS on February 15, 2016, 03:05:54 PM
should i cash out on Paul George for Allstar MVP?
got him at 21/1 and can currently triple my outlay :-\
6 times my outlay now :-\ :-\
he will win it but kind of feel davis deserves it
12/13 FG for 24 points 6 rebounds and a steal in just 12 minutes is insane.
George probably gets it on the 8/15 3 pointers despite being out there an extra 9 minutes.
yeah i rekn il ride it out, just needed someone else to verify ;)
Quote from: Holz on February 15, 2016, 02:29:43 PM
Quote from: Jayman on February 15, 2016, 01:47:59 PM
Imagine the hype around the farewell tour that Duncan should get when he retires, considering an inferior player in Kobe is having a whole season basically dedicated to him.
Duncan is easily the superior player. However he will go out quiet, probably after winning a championship and announcing his retirement a week after.
Im actually thinking it could be after they win this year.
Duncan is the ultimate team player, what Kobe is doing has nothing to do with his team.
One of the basketball topics we agree 100% on ;) Duncan doesn't get the recognition because he's quieter and in a smaller market. Will go out quietly on the back of a 60 win season. I think I'd have him about 4-7 spots above Kobe on an all-time list, but will have to go back and take a look.
Maybe Kobe is helping his team get Ben Simmons though :P
more rape in the awards, actually had AG at 6.50 for the Slam Dunk too ::)
Quote from: RiOtChEsS on February 15, 2016, 04:05:32 PM
more rape in the awards, actually had AG at 6.50 for the Slam Dunk too ::)
kinda feel like westbrook came home hard to take it. probably deserved it. kinda tough to win the MVP when your team got pumped by 23 no matter how good he was.
basically Lebron was Finals MVP last year but didnt get it as the team lost.
Threw a lazy $5 on Cousins at $51, no go hey? I'll watch the game later this evening.
Quote from: jvalles69 on February 15, 2016, 04:33:54 PM
Threw a lazy $5 on Cousins at $51, no go hey? I'll watch the game later this evening.
Pop only gave him 11 odd minutes. He had 11 points in that time at 100% shooting.
Quote from: valkorum on February 15, 2016, 05:01:37 PM
Quote from: jvalles69 on February 15, 2016, 04:33:54 PM
Threw a lazy $5 on Cousins at $51, no go hey? I'll watch the game later this evening.
Pop only gave him 11 odd minutes. He had 11 points in that time at 100% shooting.
11 minutes? Junk...
Just had a thought...they should bring back AG and Zach for next years dunk comp, but make it a game of Horse! How epic would that be, both guys trying to emulate each others dunks!
Quote from: jvalles69 on February 15, 2016, 05:29:23 PM
Just had a thought...they should bring back AG and Zach for next years dunk comp, but make it a game of Horse! How epic would that be, both guys trying to emulate each others dunks!
dont like that idea as everyone has their own style. So can imagine them struggling.
the issue is 50 dunks are common. What should happen 1 person dunk then the other and the judges vote on which is the best dunk.
Gordon had the best dunks but a really good 50 and a fantastic 50 are still a 50.
Gordon would have won under my system.
Quote from: Holz on February 15, 2016, 05:32:39 PM
Quote from: jvalles69 on February 15, 2016, 05:29:23 PM
Just had a thought...they should bring back AG and Zach for next years dunk comp, but make it a game of Horse! How epic would that be, both guys trying to emulate each others dunks!
dont like that idea as everyone has their own style. So can imagine them struggling.
the issue is 50 dunks are common. What should happen 1 person dunk then the other and the judges vote on which is the best dunk.
Gordon had the best dunks but a really good 50 and a fantastic 50 are still a 50.
Gordon would have won under my system.
was shocked that one of them didn't give Lavine a 9, his dunks were great, but not as good so the score needed to reflect that...
Tobias Harris traded to Detroit for Ersan Ilyasove and Brandon Jennings.
Pretty bad trade for Orlando ???
Quote from: Jayman on February 17, 2016, 12:16:49 PM
Tobias Harris traded to Detroit for Ersan Ilyasove and Brandon Jennings.
Pretty bad trade for Orlando ???
Not really - Orlando have many similar types of players in Harris, Oladipo, Hezonja, Fournier, Gordon
They pick up a starting PG in Jennings which gives them time to develop Payton & Napier (inj). Ilyasova can backup Vucevic and play some minutes at the 4 as well.
Quote from: valkorum on February 17, 2016, 12:24:06 PM
Quote from: Jayman on February 17, 2016, 12:16:49 PM
Tobias Harris traded to Detroit for Ersan Ilyasove and Brandon Jennings.
Pretty bad trade for Orlando ???
Not really - Orlando have many similar types of players in Harris, Oladipo, Hezonja, Fournier, Gordon
They pick up a starting PG in Jennings which gives them time to develop Payton & Napier (inj). Ilyasova can backup Vucevic and play some minutes at the 4 as well.
serious upgrade for Detroit though
Quote from: valkorum on February 17, 2016, 12:24:06 PM
Quote from: Jayman on February 17, 2016, 12:16:49 PM
Tobias Harris traded to Detroit for Ersan Ilyasove and Brandon Jennings.
Pretty bad trade for Orlando ???
Not really - Orlando have many similar types of players in Harris, Oladipo, Hezonja, Fournier, Gordon
They pick up a starting PG in Jennings which gives them time to develop Payton & Napier (inj). Ilyasova can backup Vucevic and play some minutes at the 4 as well.
Gave up 3.5 years of Tobias (23 years old!) - on a fair contract if he plays well - for 0.5 years of Jennings and 1.5 of Ersan with nothing else for the future. Win now move for the Magic even though:
1. They could have got much more for Harris this offseason (Maybe a 1st)
2. They shouldn't be even trying to win now
Gordon will be unleashed now, but I don't think Magic have finished making moves...Oladipo could be outta there.
Quote from: plumdog millionaire on February 17, 2016, 01:47:51 PM
Quote from: valkorum on February 17, 2016, 12:24:06 PM
Quote from: Jayman on February 17, 2016, 12:16:49 PM
Tobias Harris traded to Detroit for Ersan Ilyasove and Brandon Jennings.
Pretty bad trade for Orlando ???
Not really - Orlando have many similar types of players in Harris, Oladipo, Hezonja, Fournier, Gordon
They pick up a starting PG in Jennings which gives them time to develop Payton & Napier (inj). Ilyasova can backup Vucevic and play some minutes at the 4 as well.
Gave up 3.5 years of Tobias (23 years old!) - on a fair contract if he plays well - for 0.5 years of Jennings and 1.5 of Ersan with nothing else for the future. Win now move for the Magic even though:
1. They could have got much more for Harris this offseason (Maybe a 1st)
2. They shouldn't be even trying to win now
This ^
Detroit get a young player under contract for his prime while giving up nothing of future value. Can't believe Orlando couldn't even get a pick back in return!
Not opposed to moving Harris because Gordon is their PF of the future, but this is a major sell low.
Kings reportedly going strong for Pau Gasol
http://www.csnbayarea.com/kings/report-kings-going-hard-after-bulls-all-star-gasol
"The deal has plenty of issues before proceeding, but according to the report, the Kings would send prized free agent acquisition Kosta Koufos, former first-round pick Ben McLemore and reduce the restrictions on the team’s 2016 first round pick, which Chicago currently holds."
"Along with Gasol, the Kings would reportedly receive small forward Tony Snell. Sacramento was high on Snell during the 2013 NBA Draft process. They brought him in for two separate workouts before settling on McLemore with the seventh overall selection."
Pau is pushing hard against a trade and has pretty much said he wants to extend his contract with the Bulls...still might happen but don't think they will risk the trade only to have Pau leave anyway.
HAHAHAHA. Kings gonna King.
Why not just go after Snell and not pay a decent haul for 30 games of Pau Gasol? Do they really want to get swept in the first round that bad?
Quote from: Jayman on February 18, 2016, 10:46:07 PM
HAHAHAHA. Kings gonna King.
Why not just go after Snell and not pay a decent haul for 30 games of Pau Gasol? Do they really want to get swept in the first round that bad?
Pau's ($7.4M) contract is less than Koufos ($7.7M)
He's alluding to the picks.
You're giving up McLemore, Koufos, the restrictions on the first to a top 5 protected and probably another 1st rounder after the one to Philly becomes unprotected for Snell and Pau for the rest of this season (he'll bail once it's over) to try and potentially get swept by the Warriors.
Kings gonna King
Really liked the deadline for Detroit. Cleveland getting Frye is a nice pickup too.
I think Washington overpaid for Markieff, but if they can sort him out it might be worth it. Was a good player last season.
Not sure where Frye fits in behind Love, Thompson, Mozgov and LeBron but doesn't hurt to have a decent shooter
Meanwhile Kieff and D-Mo got 1sts and Tobias didn't...
Quote from: plumdog millionaire on February 19, 2016, 10:23:58 AM
Not sure where Frye fits in behind Love, Thompson, Mozgov and LeBron but doesn't hurt to have a decent shooter
Meanwhile Kieff and D-Mo got 1sts and Tobias didn't...
Frye certainly better then Varejo though.
its an ok move that will make a small difference.
Memphis had a great deadline too.. Getting a first round pick back for Jeff Green is hard to believe. Until you remember that Doc is the Clippers GM.
Quote from: Jayman on February 19, 2016, 10:57:07 AM
Memphis had a great deadline too.. Getting a first round pick back for Jeff Green is hard to believe. Until you remember that Doc is the Clippers GM.
isnt half of it getting lance of your books?
Quote from: Holz on February 19, 2016, 10:44:36 AM
Quote from: plumdog millionaire on February 19, 2016, 10:23:58 AM
Not sure where Frye fits in behind Love, Thompson, Mozgov and LeBron but doesn't hurt to have a decent shooter
Meanwhile Kieff and D-Mo got 1sts and Tobias didn't...
Frye certainly better then Varejo though.
its an ok move that will make a small difference.
Only one rim protector tho
Quote from: plumdog millionaire on February 19, 2016, 11:22:31 AM
Quote from: Holz on February 19, 2016, 10:44:36 AM
Quote from: plumdog millionaire on February 19, 2016, 10:23:58 AM
Not sure where Frye fits in behind Love, Thompson, Mozgov and LeBron but doesn't hurt to have a decent shooter
Meanwhile Kieff and D-Mo got 1sts and Tobias didn't...
Frye certainly better then Varejo though.
its an ok move that will make a small difference.
Only one rim protector tho
isnt much a problem if the "lock" to represent the West warriors make it through.
Your in big trouble if you come up against Aldridge.
Quote from: Holz on February 19, 2016, 01:20:28 PM
Quote from: plumdog millionaire on February 19, 2016, 11:22:31 AM
Quote from: Holz on February 19, 2016, 10:44:36 AM
Quote from: plumdog millionaire on February 19, 2016, 10:23:58 AM
Not sure where Frye fits in behind Love, Thompson, Mozgov and LeBron but doesn't hurt to have a decent shooter
Meanwhile Kieff and D-Mo got 1sts and Tobias didn't...
Frye certainly better then Varejo though.
its an ok move that will make a small difference.
Only one rim protector tho
isnt much a problem if the "lock" to represent the West warriors make it through.
Your in big trouble if you come up against Aldridge.
Gotta get there first, Cavs are no 'lock' either
http://www.nba.com/sixers/video/teams/sixers/2016/02/17/1455722327688-Jerami-Blocks.mp4-297914
http://www.csnne.com/boston-celtics/danny-ainge-other-team-backed-out-big-trade
just chumming the waters to appease the hungry fans or was there a big deal that just fell short?
Pacers steal 1 in OKC
Heat get passed the Hawks without Wade and Bosh
Quote from: RiOtChEsS on February 20, 2016, 03:26:29 PM
Pacers steal 1 in OKC
Heat get passed the Hawks without Wade and Bosh
Warriors are getting pumped by Portland :o
Quote from: RiOtChEsS on February 20, 2016, 03:39:00 PM
Quote from: RiOtChEsS on February 20, 2016, 03:26:29 PM
Pacers steal 1 in OKC
Heat get passed the Hawks without Wade and Bosh
Warriors are getting pumped by Portland :o
inb4 Holz trashing the Warriors :D
Quote from: plumdog millionaire on February 20, 2016, 03:40:54 PM
inb4 Holz trashing the Warriors :D
inb4 the Warriors come back and win
Quote from: plumdog millionaire on February 20, 2016, 03:40:54 PM
Quote from: RiOtChEsS on February 20, 2016, 03:39:00 PM
Quote from: RiOtChEsS on February 20, 2016, 03:26:29 PM
Pacers steal 1 in OKC
Heat get passed the Hawks without Wade Whiteside and Bosh
Warriors are getting pumped by Portland :o
inb4 Holz trashing the Warriors :D
they got it back to 6 at the half, its back out to 14 again :-\
Quote from: RiOtChEsS on February 20, 2016, 04:35:28 PM
Quote from: plumdog millionaire on February 20, 2016, 03:40:54 PM
Quote from: RiOtChEsS on February 20, 2016, 03:39:00 PM
Quote from: RiOtChEsS on February 20, 2016, 03:26:29 PM
Pacers steal 1 in OKC
Heat get passed the Hawks without Wade Whiteside and Bosh
Warriors are getting pumped by Portland :o
inb4 Holz trashing the Warriors :D
they got it back to 6 at the half, its back out to 14 again :-\
Just a regular season game. Actually got abit of respect for the warriors letting it go rather then going all out to win.
to me shows perhaps they are thinking of playoffs not being the greatest regualr season team ever.
Lillard was insane. 51 points 9/12 3 pointers 7 assits 6 steals 0 To take a bow
that has to be the greatest statistical game of the year easy.
Quote from: RiOtChEsS on February 20, 2016, 10:39:49 AM
http://www.csnne.com/boston-celtics/danny-ainge-other-team-backed-out-big-trade
just chumming the waters to appease the hungry fans or was there a big deal that just fell short?
The target was Jahil Okafor. Very interesting.
I'm happy with us just standing pat, but do hope we at least offered the Brooklyn pick to Atlanta for Al Horford.
MJax just said that the Warriors didn't have a security guard when he coached them.
Can that possibly be true?
Clippers on a 13-0 run in the final 2 minutes with all the starters subbed out :o 3 pt game with 5 seconds left
Quote from: RiOtChEsS on February 21, 2016, 03:57:24 PM
Clippers on a 13-0 run in the final 2 minutes with all the starters subbed out :o 3 pt game with 5 seconds left
This game was flowered up.
Quote from: Jayman on February 21, 2016, 04:00:06 PM
Quote from: RiOtChEsS on February 21, 2016, 03:57:24 PM
Clippers on a 13-0 run in the final 2 minutes with all the starters subbed out :o 3 pt game with 5 seconds left
This game was flowered up.
a) Why were the backups still in?
b) Why did they not call timeout after the steal?
c) Why didn't Wilcox pass?
Quote from: Jayman on February 21, 2016, 04:05:46 PM
Quote from: Jayman on February 21, 2016, 04:00:06 PM
Quote from: RiOtChEsS on February 21, 2016, 03:57:24 PM
Clippers on a 13-0 run in the final 2 minutes with all the starters subbed out :o 3 pt game with 5 seconds left
This game was flowered up.
a) Why were the backups still in?
b) Why did they not call timeout after the steal?
c) Why didn't Wilcox pass?
Yeah JGreen was wiiiiiiiiiiiiiiide open on the wing :-\
AD going for the elusive 50-20 game...
Quote from: Jayman on February 22, 2016, 10:43:51 AM
AD going for the elusive 50-20 game...
Im amazed,
lillard just put up the best stat game of the season in my books against the warriors. this game from AD is on another level.
from a man who loves numbers this was amazing
24/34 - wow
2/2 3 pointers - good
9/10 FT - very very solid
20 rebounds - 6 offensive - amazing
59 points - it will be the number of the night however the efficiency in which he scored is the really impressive thing. he just had a 90 70 100 night.
Only tuned in for the fourth quarter, but it was crazy. Never seen a big man as hot as he was.
Oh and he's 22 years old :P
Don't forget only 2 TO's
By comparison, the spurs have 60 points 17 boards in a half.
What a phenomenal player, shame his team his garbage.
Quote from: plumdog millionaire on February 22, 2016, 11:06:00 AM
Don't forget only 2 TO's
By comparison, the spurs have 60 points 17 boards in a half.
What a phenomenal player, shame his team his garbage.
really hope he moves. Cant see it happening with a 5 year contract and they wont trade him.
imagine him with an actual point guard instead of all these combo guards.
Quote from: Holz on February 22, 2016, 12:03:08 PM
Quote from: plumdog millionaire on February 22, 2016, 11:06:00 AM
Don't forget only 2 TO's
By comparison, the spurs have 60 points 17 boards in a half.
What a phenomenal player, shame his team his garbage.
really hope he moves. Cant see it happening with a 5 year contract and they wont trade him.
imagine him with an actual point guard instead of all these combo guards.
Happily have him at the Kings
5 - DMC
4 - AD
3 - Gay
2 - McLemore
1 - Rondo
LOOK OUT
Quote from: valkorum on February 22, 2016, 12:25:47 PM
Quote from: Holz on February 22, 2016, 12:03:08 PM
Quote from: plumdog millionaire on February 22, 2016, 11:06:00 AM
Don't forget only 2 TO's
By comparison, the spurs have 60 points 17 boards in a half.
What a phenomenal player, shame his team his garbage.
really hope he moves. Cant see it happening with a 5 year contract and they wont trade him.
imagine him with an actual point guard instead of all these combo guards.
Happily have him at the Kings
5 - DMC
4 - AD
3 - Gay
2 - McLemore
1 - Rondo
LOOK OUT
you would have to trade your whole team to get him though/
Quote from: Holz on February 22, 2016, 12:29:19 PM
Quote from: valkorum on February 22, 2016, 12:25:47 PM
Quote from: Holz on February 22, 2016, 12:03:08 PM
Quote from: plumdog millionaire on February 22, 2016, 11:06:00 AM
Don't forget only 2 TO's
By comparison, the spurs have 60 points 17 boards in a half.
What a phenomenal player, shame his team his garbage.
really hope he moves. Cant see it happening with a 5 year contract and they wont trade him.
imagine him with an actual point guard instead of all these combo guards.
Happily have him at the Kings
5 - DMC
4 - AD
3 - Gay
2 - McLemore
1 - Rondo
LOOK OUT
you would have to trade your whole team to get him though/
Yeh true
DMC
AD
Casspi
Curry (of the Seth variety)
Rondo
Koufos, Gay, Bellinelli & McLemore all gone
what I want to see is them do some good trades.
they should have a top 10 pick.
I wonder if they could make some cap room and chase a free agent. Ryan Adnerson and Eric Gordon are free agents end of the year.
some scary combos could come up.
Lebron James: he probably wont leave but imagine him at point forward and guarding the wings then you need to get through AD.
Kevin Durrant: This would just be scary both guys have huge wing spans and the scoring options would be insane.
Russ Westbrook: will probably casue a KD Westbrook thing again but no doubt it would be fun to watch.
they wont do anything and he will stay a 8th seed but they really should. its a huge waste to have him on this team. I just wish it was a better franchise. Flip it and say he was in New York with the current team im sure you could get a big name to join him.
Quote from: valkorum on February 22, 2016, 12:32:20 PM
Quote from: Holz on February 22, 2016, 12:29:19 PM
Quote from: valkorum on February 22, 2016, 12:25:47 PM
Quote from: Holz on February 22, 2016, 12:03:08 PM
Quote from: plumdog millionaire on February 22, 2016, 11:06:00 AM
Don't forget only 2 TO's
By comparison, the spurs have 60 points 17 boards in a half.
What a phenomenal player, shame his team his garbage.
really hope he moves. Cant see it happening with a 5 year contract and they wont trade him.
imagine him with an actual point guard instead of all these combo guards.
Happily have him at the Kings
5 - DMC
4 - AD
3 - Gay
2 - McLemore
1 - Rondo
LOOK OUT
you would have to trade your whole team to get him though/
Yeh true
DMC
AD
Casspi
Curry (of the Seth variety)
Rondo
Koufos, Gay, Bellinelli & McLemore all gone
If we're doing this...
AD
Mickey
Jerebko
J Young
Rozier
:D
Quote from: Holz on February 22, 2016, 12:42:18 PM
what I want to see is them do some good trades.
they should have a top 10 pick.
I wonder if they could make some cap room and chase a free agent. Ryan Adnerson and Eric Gordon are free agents end of the year.
some scary combos could come up.
Lebron James: he probably wont leave but imagine him at point forward and guarding the wings then you need to get through AD.
Kevin Durrant: This would just be scary both guys have huge wing spans and the scoring options would be insane.
Russ Westbrook: will probably casue a KD Westbrook thing again but no doubt it would be fun to watch.
they wont do anything and he will stay a 8th seed but they really should. its a huge waste to have him on this team. I just wish it was a better franchise. Flip it and say he was in New York with the current team im sure you could get a big name to join him.
Agreed. It's frustrating to have a transcendent player stuck on an incompetent franchise. They got AD, realised he's great and then tried to win straight away - which was a massive mistake. 2013 Draft, a year after taking Davis, they take the best player available at #6, Nerlens Noel, great move.. But trade him along with a 2014 first round pick to Philly for Jrue Holiday. That pick ended up being pick 10, which means guys like Elfrid Payton, Doug McDermott, Zach Lavine, Jusuf Nurkic, Gary Harris, Rodney Hood, Clint Capela, Kyle Anderson were available. I'd certainly rather any of those guys and Nerlens over Holiday... They then gave up a 2015 first round pick to Houston for Omer Asik - that ended up being pick 18, could have had a Bobby Portis or Jerian Grant in that spot. This latest off-season was another disaster - they gave Asik a 5-year 60 million dollar contract, and Ajinca 4 years 20 million. Both guy's play centre, which happens to be Davis' best position... What an allocation of resources.
The trade deadline a few days ago they did absolutely nothing. That was their last chance to try and get something back for free agents Eric Gordon and Ryan Anderson. Gordon has already tried to leave New Orleans before, and Anderson is going to require a massive contract to keep. And all they are going to do now is add wins to the team, worsening their draft pick, before leaving and New Orleans getting nothing in return.
Anthony Davis, Nerlens Noel, Tyreke Evans, Rodney Hood, Bobby Portis + whatever assets they could have gotten back for Gordon and Anderson, and then a lottery pick this year. Now that would be a great core for the Pelicans to go forward with.
Instead they are where they are now. Stuck, and wasting years of Davis.
To be fair, Jrue was an all-star and 23 when they traded for him. They didn't know about the stress fractures and he hasn't been healthy the entire time he has been there.
And you're also had a chance to look at who have the best potential in those drafts like Portis, Hood etc at the same time Peli's could've drafted junk. Jrue is actually playing out of his skin right now and has been since he came back from injury. Lot of if's in your equations...
Quote from: Jayman on February 22, 2016, 04:29:41 PM
Quote from: Holz on February 22, 2016, 12:42:18 PM
what I want to see is them do some good trades.
they should have a top 10 pick.
I wonder if they could make some cap room and chase a free agent. Ryan Adnerson and Eric Gordon are free agents end of the year.
some scary combos could come up.
Lebron James: he probably wont leave but imagine him at point forward and guarding the wings then you need to get through AD.
Kevin Durrant: This would just be scary both guys have huge wing spans and the scoring options would be insane.
Russ Westbrook: will probably casue a KD Westbrook thing again but no doubt it would be fun to watch.
they wont do anything and he will stay a 8th seed but they really should. its a huge waste to have him on this team. I just wish it was a better franchise. Flip it and say he was in New York with the current team im sure you could get a big name to join him.
Agreed. It's frustrating to have a transcendent player stuck on an incompetent franchise. They got AD, realised he's great and then tried to win straight away - which was a massive mistake. 2013 Draft, a year after taking Davis, they take the best player available at #6, Nerlens Noel, great move.. But trade him along with a 2014 first round pick to Philly for Jrue Holiday. That pick ended up being pick 10, which means guys like Elfrid Payton, Doug McDermott, Zach Lavine, Jusuf Nurkic, Gary Harris, Rodney Hood, Clint Capela, Kyle Anderson were available. I'd certainly rather any of those guys and Nerlens over Holiday... They then gave up a 2015 first round pick to Houston for Omer Asik - that ended up being pick 18, could have had a Bobby Portis or Jerian Grant in that spot. This latest off-season was another disaster - they gave Asik a 5-year 60 million dollar contract, and Ajinca 4 years 20 million. Both guy's play centre, which happens to be Davis' best position... What an allocation of resources.
The trade deadline a few days ago they did absolutely nothing. That was their last chance to try and get something back for free agents Eric Gordon and Ryan Anderson. Gordon has already tried to leave New Orleans before, and Anderson is going to require a massive contract to keep. And all they are going to do now is add wins to the team, worsening their draft pick, before leaving and New Orleans getting nothing in return.
Anthony Davis, Nerlens Noel, Tyreke Evans, Rodney Hood, Bobby Portis + whatever assets they could have gotten back for Gordon and Anderson, and then a lottery pick this year. Now that would be a great core for the Pelicans to go forward with.
Instead they are where they are now. Stuck, and wasting years of Davis.
in retrospect Holiday was a mistake but i dont mind it too much.
Gordon and Anderson though they should have done something.
Asik was the stupid move i was alluding too.
Holiday is actually pretty decent 18.5 points 4 rebounds 1.5 steals with 7.2 assits in his last 2 months (25 games)
what can they do as a small franchise. The only attraction they have is AD.
If they got a second sueprstar then everyone would flock to them, but they wont be able too.
;D everyone would give an arm and a leg for AD
He will stay, they wont trade, New Orleans could attract some big names to play with him
KAT putting on a show vs the Celtics at the moment. Can't remember seeing a more impressive rookie.
Im going to be annoying a revisit this Irving v Green offense talk. Last 5 games (excluding the game irving was take out early with the flu)
Green 10.2 PPG 5.4 APG
Irving 29 PPG 6.2 APG
these dont even compare.
Quote from: Holz on February 23, 2016, 03:00:02 PM
Im going to be annoying a revisit this Irving v Green offense talk. Last 5 games (excluding the game irving was take out early with the flu)
Green 10.2 PPG 5.4 APG
Irving 29 PPG 6.2 APG
these dont even compare.
Revisit this in the playoffs
And pick any 5 game stretch, you make arguments either way. It's completely arbitrary
Quote from: plumdog millionaire on February 23, 2016, 03:41:38 PM
And pick any 5 game stretch, you make arguments either way. It's completely arbitrary
But everyone's been making claims of 1.5 seasons with Green against 5 or so years of Kyrie...same thing.
Quote from: jvalles69 on February 23, 2016, 03:47:26 PM
Quote from: plumdog millionaire on February 23, 2016, 03:41:38 PM
And pick any 5 game stretch, you make arguments either way. It's completely arbitrary
But everyone's been making claims of 1.5 seasons with Green against 5 or so years of Kyrie...same thing.
Exact same thing?
Quote from: plumdog millionaire on February 23, 2016, 03:49:00 PM
Quote from: jvalles69 on February 23, 2016, 03:47:26 PM
Quote from: plumdog millionaire on February 23, 2016, 03:41:38 PM
And pick any 5 game stretch, you make arguments either way. It's completely arbitrary
But everyone's been making claims of 1.5 seasons with Green against 5 or so years of Kyrie...same thing.
Exact same thing?
Not exactly, but saying that Green is the better offensive player (that might not exactly what was said, but the comparison was still there) off 1.5 seasons to Kyries 5 is a bit of a stretch. Also think Holz was continuing on the fact that Kyrie is healthier and actually getting his legs back into form.
Lance Stephenson also had a really good 1.5 - 2 years, look where that guys gone...
Last 10 games..
Harden 30.2ppg 7.4apg
Curry 27.9ppg 6.6apg
Is Harden a better offensive player than Curry? ::)
Draymond has had to play centre a lot lately with Bogut and Ezeli out. Would hurt your offense having to bang with the big boys in the paint for an extended period of time. Besides, this wasn't even the main point of my argument - you disagreed that Green is a better player than Irving, not just offensively. Take the last 5 games, take any stretch of games, Draymond is just a lot better.
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Quote from: plumdog millionaire on February 23, 2016, 03:49:00 PM
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Quote from: plumdog millionaire on February 23, 2016, 03:41:38 PM
And pick any 5 game stretch, you make arguments either way. It's completely arbitrary
But everyone's been making claims of 1.5 seasons with Green against 5 or so years of Kyrie...same thing.
Exact same thing?
Not exactly, but saying that Green is the better offensive player (that might not exactly what was said, but the comparison was still there) off 1.5 seasons to Kyries 5 is a bit of a stretch. Also think Holz was continuing on the fact that Kyrie is healthier and actually getting his legs back into form.
5 games is way too little for any point to be made, that is all.
I get that the track record is important, but that doesn't disadvantage Green, it just gives Irving more credibility to the stats, but accounting for injuries it's only 3.5 seasons for Irving.
I think a huge factor in Green's favour is that when he became a starter the team went from a solid team to historically great offensively. He's only helped that. Whereas Kyrie did what he wanted on 21, 24 and 33 win teams, obviously taking injuries into account
Quote from: jvalles69 on February 23, 2016, 04:01:15 PM
Lance Stephenson also had a really good 1.5 - 2 years, look where that guys gone...
Exceptions to the rule
The only thing I will concede is that Green is the better all round player...but Kyrie is a way better offensive player than Green.
I have to say, for someone who only follows the NBA loosely, I enjoy reading the discussions/debates you guys have in this thread.
It's actually quite refreshing in this day and age to read some reasoned and in-control debates online without abuse being hurled at other posters who have different opinions :)
Quote from: Rusty00 on February 23, 2016, 04:31:40 PM
I have to say, for someone who only follows the NBA loosely, I enjoy reading the discussions/debates you guys have in this thread.
It's actually quite refreshing in this day and age to read some reasoned and in-control debates online without abuse being hurled at other posters who have different opinions :)
That is absolutely the best thing about this forum, no keyboard warriors here, some of the pages on facebook just make me angry with how dumb and uneducated some people are.
Quote from: jvalles69 on February 23, 2016, 04:14:43 PM
The only thing I will concede is that Green is the better all round player...but Kyrie is a way better offensive player than Green.
exactly, now choose who you want on your team ;)
I'm taking Green all day, durability, creates shots, defends every position...
Quote from: RiOtChEsS on February 23, 2016, 04:39:32 PM
Quote from: jvalles69 on February 23, 2016, 04:14:43 PM
The only thing I will concede is that Green is the better all round player...but Kyrie is a way better offensive player than Green.
exactly, now choose who you want on your team ;)
I'm taking Green all day, durability, creates shots, defends every position...
I would take Uncle Drew over Green and Kyrie any day! 8)
Quote from: plumdog millionaire on February 23, 2016, 03:41:38 PM
And pick any 5 game stretch, you make arguments either way. It's completely arbitrary
the numbers are valid for the last 2-3 months. and every year except the start of this year when injured (was still better)
Quote from: Holz on February 23, 2016, 05:10:38 PM
Quote from: plumdog millionaire on February 23, 2016, 03:41:38 PM
And pick any 5 game stretch, you make arguments either way. It's completely arbitrary
the numbers are valid for the last 2-3 months. and every year except the start of this year when injured (was still better)
Hard to judge Draymond when Mark Jackson had him on the bench watching David Lee post ups. Since the Warriors got Steve Kerr, he's been a lot better than Irving overall. I'm not sure what says otherwise, unless you're just looking at pure scoring and 1v1 ball.
Quote from: Jayman on February 23, 2016, 05:47:57 PM
Quote from: Holz on February 23, 2016, 05:10:38 PM
Quote from: plumdog millionaire on February 23, 2016, 03:41:38 PM
And pick any 5 game stretch, you make arguments either way. It's completely arbitrary
the numbers are valid for the last 2-3 months. and every year except the start of this year when injured (was still better)
Hard to judge Draymond when Mark Jackson had him on the bench watching David Lee post ups. Since the Warriors got Steve Kerr, he's been a lot better than Irving overall. I'm not sure what says otherwise, unless you're just looking at pure scoring and 1v1 ball.
not really since Irving has been fit he has been amazing on offense. Green has been amazing on defense but by no means is he alot better overall.
since the warriors got Kerr means last year.
Irving was better then Green last year.
IF I had to choose between Green and Irving for the Kings (with the current roster), I choose Green. Put him next to Cousins - wow
Quote from: valkorum on February 23, 2016, 06:22:53 PM
IF I had to choose between Green and Irving for the Kings (with the current roster), I choose Green. Put him next to Cousins - wow
If your building around one guy who do you go.
Incudently green irving would work well
Quote from: Holz on February 23, 2016, 06:03:00 PM
Quote from: Jayman on February 23, 2016, 05:47:57 PM
Quote from: Holz on February 23, 2016, 05:10:38 PM
Quote from: plumdog millionaire on February 23, 2016, 03:41:38 PM
And pick any 5 game stretch, you make arguments either way. It's completely arbitrary
the numbers are valid for the last 2-3 months. and every year except the start of this year when injured (was still better)
Hard to judge Draymond when Mark Jackson had him on the bench watching David Lee post ups. Since the Warriors got Steve Kerr, he's been a lot better than Irving overall. I'm not sure what says otherwise, unless you're just looking at pure scoring and 1v1 ball.
not really since Irving has been fit he has been amazing on offense. Green has been amazing on defense but by no means is he alot better overall.
since the warriors got Kerr means last year.
Irving was better then Green last year.
Breakdown
Isolation scoring is a dime a dozen
Guys that can literally do everything and defend all positions are rare
That is why id choose Green, he is a more valuable commodity with his rare skill set
Quote from: Holz on February 23, 2016, 06:03:00 PM
Quote from: Jayman on February 23, 2016, 05:47:57 PM
Quote from: Holz on February 23, 2016, 05:10:38 PM
Quote from: plumdog millionaire on February 23, 2016, 03:41:38 PM
And pick any 5 game stretch, you make arguments either way. It's completely arbitrary
the numbers are valid for the last 2-3 months. and every year except the start of this year when injured (was still better)
Hard to judge Draymond when Mark Jackson had him on the bench watching David Lee post ups. Since the Warriors got Steve Kerr, he's been a lot better than Irving overall. I'm not sure what says otherwise, unless you're just looking at pure scoring and 1v1 ball.
not really since Irving has been fit he has been amazing on offense. Green has been amazing on defense but by no means is he alot better overall.
since the warriors got Kerr means last year.
Irving was better then Green last year.
Disagree with that. It's by no means perfect, but Real Plus-Minus is usually quite a reliable stat and takes into account both offense and defense. In 2013-14 (before Kerr) Green was 38th, Irving ranked 231. 2014-15 Green 8th, Irving 38th. 2015-16 Draymond 3rd, Irving 172nd.
One thing that has impressed me looking into these two's stats since the start of last season is that Draymond has both a higher 3-point rate and free-throw rate than Irving (percentage of their shots which come from those spots). Obviously threes and free throws are two of the most efficient shots in basketball, so even though Draymond might not have as much raw shot creation talent as Irving, he's certainly taking the right ones. Irving shoots far more long twos (Draymond basically never takes them now) which is okay if you make them, but it's just harder to stay efficient.
Draymond is an excellent rebounder, especially for his size and puts up similar assist numbers despite having the ball in his hands far less. Irving over his career uses 28.2% of his team's plays, compared to Draymond at 16.6%. Granted, Irving turning the ball over less despite this usage is quite impressive. Probably the most convincing statistic though is that since the start of last season, the Cavs are 8.1 points better per 100 possessions when Irving is on the court than when he sits. Pretty good. The Warriors are +20.5 with Draymond.
Valk illustrated my point, saying that he would prefer the Green pairing with Cousins. Same goes for any superstar - Draymond fits perfectly with all of them. The things he does are rare, being able to defend 5 positions, hit threes and be an incredible ball mover on offense. Irving's ball dominant isolation style is just not as impressive. Sure, if you just had league-average players around them, then you might be able to win slightly more games with Irving than Draymond, but I'm not sure that's how we should measure players.
Plus minus is soo flawed. Green is playing with the starters who are killing teams. Plus minus has just as much to do with who you are playing with.
Stick green with a bunch of spuds and irving with spuds and see the plus minus.
Crossing my fingers for healthy cavs in playoffs.
My take on plus minus is how valuable YOU are while YOU are on the court?
Quote from: Cookie Monster on February 24, 2016, 02:01:38 PM
My take on plus minus is how valuable YOU are while YOU are on the court?
ok so what if you are a scrub on the court with a bunch of superstars and blow teams off the court. You would have a great plus or minus and you could just sit there doing nothing.
Anthony Davis -1.4
Festus Ezili + 5.2
so Ezili is a far superior player to AD?
Jahil Okafor is -9 and the second worst player in the NBA according to the stat.
Lets Just wait for Playoffs.
Im expecting Warriors to almost sweep every team to take the championship. To be the best team of this era they need to have no series even go to 7 games.
Quote from: Holz on February 24, 2016, 02:31:04 PM
Quote from: Cookie Monster on February 24, 2016, 02:01:38 PM
My take on plus minus is how valuable YOU are while YOU are on the court?
it depends what plus and minus you are using.
it has to do with who you are on the court with more for normal plus minus.
Anthony Davis -1.4
Harison Barnes +7.3
so Barnes is a far superior player to AD?
Jahil Okafor is -9 and the second worst player in the NBA according to the stat.
It's what I understood the stat to be, could have different interpretations of the in game stat than over a season/career
Blake Griffin would be the best example of that i would think, so good when he plays but the Clippers are better when he doesn't
Quote from: Holz on February 24, 2016, 02:33:05 PM
Lets Just wait for Playoffs.
Im expecting Warriors to almost sweep every team to take the championship. To be the best team of this era they need to have no series even go to 7 games.
w0w dude you must really love LeBron if you think that iso ball they are playing at the moment has a hope of hangin with GSW
I wouldnt be surprised if an East team works out how to shut that down and the Cavs dont even make it to the finals :-X
Quote from: RiOtChEsS on February 24, 2016, 02:36:26 PM
Quote from: Holz on February 24, 2016, 02:33:05 PM
Lets Just wait for Playoffs.
Im expecting Warriors to almost sweep every team to take the championship. To be the best team of this era they need to have no series even go to 7 games.
w0w dude you must really love LeBron if you think that iso ball they are playing at the moment has a hope of hangin with GSW
I wouldnt be surprised if an East team works out how to shut that down and the Cavs dont even make it to the finals :-X
iso is actually a legit strategy against the warriors. Lebron when he handled the ball last year took them to 6 games on his own. the Warriors defence isnt their strong point they have 103.5 points against compared to cavs at 96.8. I know they play up tempo but it could cause some problems against the Spurs/Cavs
I would say the Cavs have a better chance of making the finals then the Warriors actually.
the odds makers agree with me Cavs are shoter odds then the warriors.
Of course cavs are shorter odds for finals, they're in the East.
Quote from: JBs-Hawks on February 24, 2016, 02:53:44 PM
Of course cavs are shorter odds for finals, they're in the East.
This. They'll be underdogs in the finals no matter who they play.
I'm with Riot actually, would not rule out the Raptors at all from beating Cleveland.
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Quote from: RiOtChEsS on February 24, 2016, 02:36:26 PM
Quote from: Holz on February 24, 2016, 02:33:05 PM
Lets Just wait for Playoffs.
Im expecting Warriors to almost sweep every team to take the championship. To be the best team of this era they need to have no series even go to 7 games.
w0w dude you must really love LeBron if you think that iso ball they are playing at the moment has a hope of hangin with GSW
I wouldnt be surprised if an East team works out how to shut that down and the Cavs dont even make it to the finals :-X
iso is actually a legit strategy against the warriors. Lebron when he handled the ball last year took them to 6 games on his own. the Warriors defence isnt their strong point they have 103.5 points against compared to cavs at 96.8. I know they play up tempo but it could cause some problems against the Spurs/Cavs
I would say the Cavs have a better chance of making the finals then the Warriors actually.
the odds makers agree with me Cavs are shoter odds then the warriors.
i seem to recall once Iggy went to LeBron the Cavs didnt win a game...
Quote from: Jayman on February 24, 2016, 03:26:03 PM
Quote from: JBs-Hawks on February 24, 2016, 02:53:44 PM
Of course cavs are shorter odds for finals, they're in the East.
This. They'll be underdogs in the finals no matter who they play.
I'm with Riot actually, would not rule out the Raptors at all from beating Cleveland.
The statement was i wouldnt be suprised if someone in the east knocks out cavs.
My response is it will be less suprising if someone in the west knocks off the warriors.
Im actually saying that will probably happen.
Also thunder v cavs my money on lebron.
Lillard and McCollum are a crazy good duo, Plumlee does a really good job getting them the ball out of post ups and pick and rolls
Quote from: Holz on February 24, 2016, 05:09:51 PM
Quote from: Jayman on February 24, 2016, 03:26:03 PM
Quote from: JBs-Hawks on February 24, 2016, 02:53:44 PM
Of course cavs are shorter odds for finals, they're in the East.
This. They'll be underdogs in the finals no matter who they play.
I'm with Riot actually, would not rule out the Raptors at all from beating Cleveland.
The statement was i wouldnt be suprised if someone in the east knocks out cavs.
My response is it will be less suprising if someone in the west knocks off the warriors.
Im actually saying that will probably happen.
Also thunder v cavs my money on lebron.
The Thunder making the finals is an even more outrageous prediction than the Cavs winning it.
The way I see it is...
Tier 1: Golden State
Tier 2: San Antonio
Tier 3: Oklahoma City and Cleveland
Tier 4: Clippers and Raptors
Quote from: Jayman on February 24, 2016, 06:03:59 PM
Quote from: Holz on February 24, 2016, 05:09:51 PM
Quote from: Jayman on February 24, 2016, 03:26:03 PM
Quote from: JBs-Hawks on February 24, 2016, 02:53:44 PM
Of course cavs are shorter odds for finals, they're in the East.
This. They'll be underdogs in the finals no matter who they play.
I'm with Riot actually, would not rule out the Raptors at all from beating Cleveland.
The statement was i wouldnt be suprised if someone in the east knocks out cavs.
My response is it will be less suprising if someone in the west knocks off the warriors.
Im actually saying that will probably happen.
Also thunder v cavs my money on lebron.
The Thunder making the finals is an even more outrageous prediction than the Cavs winning it.
The way I see it is...
Tier 1: Golden State
Tier 2: San Antonio
Tier 3: Oklahoma City and Cleveland
Tier 4: Clippers and Raptors
Raps ~= Clippers? I think there's a slight gap because the clips at their best can hang with the best teams, including GSW, whereas the raps aren't capable of that calibre of play I reckon
Quote from: Jayman on February 24, 2016, 06:03:59 PM
Quote from: Holz on February 24, 2016, 05:09:51 PM
Quote from: Jayman on February 24, 2016, 03:26:03 PM
Quote from: JBs-Hawks on February 24, 2016, 02:53:44 PM
Of course cavs are shorter odds for finals, they're in the East.
This. They'll be underdogs in the finals no matter who they play.
I'm with Riot actually, would not rule out the Raptors at all from beating Cleveland.
The statement was i wouldnt be suprised if someone in the east knocks out cavs.
My response is it will be less suprising if someone in the west knocks off the warriors.
Im actually saying that will probably happen.
Also thunder v cavs my money on lebron.
The Thunder making the finals is an even more outrageous prediction than the Cavs winning it.
The way I see it is...
Tier 1: Golden State
Tier 2: San Antonio
Tier 3: Oklahoma City and Cleveland
Tier 4: Clippers and Raptors
Depends on matchups.
Spurs i have over warriors so if thats the game to get into the wcf and thunder can go in the other side.
I like thunder shot against spurs. I dont like themv warriors
Quote from: plumdog millionaire on February 24, 2016, 08:41:14 PM
Quote from: Jayman on February 24, 2016, 06:03:59 PM
Quote from: Holz on February 24, 2016, 05:09:51 PM
Quote from: Jayman on February 24, 2016, 03:26:03 PM
Quote from: JBs-Hawks on February 24, 2016, 02:53:44 PM
Of course cavs are shorter odds for finals, they're in the East.
This. They'll be underdogs in the finals no matter who they play.
I'm with Riot actually, would not rule out the Raptors at all from beating Cleveland.
The statement was i wouldnt be suprised if someone in the east knocks out cavs.
My response is it will be less suprising if someone in the west knocks off the warriors.
Im actually saying that will probably happen.
Also thunder v cavs my money on lebron.
The Thunder making the finals is an even more outrageous prediction than the Cavs winning it.
The way I see it is...
Tier 1: Golden State
Tier 2: San Antonio
Tier 3: Oklahoma City and Cleveland
Tier 4: Clippers and Raptors
Raps ~= Clippers? I think there's a slight gap because the clips at their best can hang with the best teams, including GSW, whereas the raps aren't capable of that calibre of play I reckon
Yeah you're probably right, in a vacuum, Clippers are a better team than Toronto. But if you're looking at it in terms of who has the best chance of winning the finals, then I'd say Toronto because they'll only have to beat 2 great teams, whereas the Clippers have basically an impossible road to the 'ship.
Overall, I see them roughly pretty similar depending on how Blake and Demarre Caroll come back.
Jeff Green has actually played really well down the stretch here. Horrible offensive foul call there though, looks like the Clipps will lose this. Hurts in the chase for the 3 seed with OKC.
Skip said something smart!
http://espn.go.com/video/clip?id=14842860&ex_cid=espnfb
Quote from: Jayman on February 26, 2016, 11:43:06 AM
Skip said something smart!
http://espn.go.com/video/clip?id=14842860&ex_cid=espnfb
thats uncanny i was about to post Skip just said the dumbest thing ever.
I have had enough of this hype. Warriors best team of this era, Nobody has a shot against warriors this is boring now its Curry greatest season ever.
Talk about living in the moment.
You could put an argument that he is having one of the best offensive seasons ever ( even though this is not true) but best season ever.
Do people realise there is a thing called defense? How good a defender is Steph?
I can bring up soo many better seasons.
my best is shaq 99-00 I know not the best D ( 3 blocks) but 29.7 PPG 13.6 RPG 3.8 APG 3 BPG 57.4% FG
Wilt had crazy numbers but its hard to compare.
Lebron James has seasons with almost as good offense but much much better defense.
I will end this with Jordan. Since we are talking best of all time.
Jordan had 5-6 seasons easy better then Steph. Steph is having a amazing offensive season, I would say Jordan was better on offense though. The difference Jordan v Steph on D is a joke. Jordan has a DPOY and is an 1st team defender (like lebron)
Its getting to the point of no longer being a joke its getting sad now.
Quote from: Holz on February 26, 2016, 12:19:52 PM
Quote from: Jayman on February 26, 2016, 11:43:06 AM
Skip said something smart!
http://espn.go.com/video/clip?id=14842860&ex_cid=espnfb
thats uncanny i was about to post Skip just said the dumbest thing ever.
I have had enough of this hype. Warriors best team of this era, Nobody has a shot against warriors this is boring now its Curry greatest season ever.
Talk about living in the moment.
You could put an argument that he is having one of the best offensive seasons ever ( even though this is not true) but best season ever.
Do people realise there is a thing called defense? How good a defender is Steph?
I can bring up soo many better seasons.
my best is shaq 99-00 I know not the best D ( 3 blocks) but 29.7 PPG 13.6 RPG 3.8 APG 3 BPG 57.4% FG
Wilt had crazy numbers but its hard to compare.
Lebron James has seasons with almost as good offense but much much better defense.
I will end this with Jordan. Since we are talking best of all time.
Jordan had 5-6 seasons easy better then Steph. Steph is having a amazing offensive season, I would say Jordan was better on offense though. The difference Jordan v Steph on D is a joke. Jordan has a DPOY and is an 1st team defender (like lebron)
Its getting to the point of no longer being a joke its getting sad now.
Player Efficiency Rating
Quote from: RiOtChEsS on February 26, 2016, 12:33:08 PM
Quote from: Holz on February 26, 2016, 12:19:52 PM
Quote from: Jayman on February 26, 2016, 11:43:06 AM
Skip said something smart!
http://espn.go.com/video/clip?id=14842860&ex_cid=espnfb
thats uncanny i was about to post Skip just said the dumbest thing ever.
I have had enough of this hype. Warriors best team of this era, Nobody has a shot against warriors this is boring now its Curry greatest season ever.
Talk about living in the moment.
You could put an argument that he is having one of the best offensive seasons ever ( even though this is not true) but best season ever.
Do people realise there is a thing called defense? How good a defender is Steph?
I can bring up soo many better seasons.
my best is shaq 99-00 I know not the best D ( 3 blocks) but 29.7 PPG 13.6 RPG 3.8 APG 3 BPG 57.4% FG
Wilt had crazy numbers but its hard to compare.
Lebron James has seasons with almost as good offense but much much better defense.
I will end this with Jordan. Since we are talking best of all time.
Jordan had 5-6 seasons easy better then Steph. Steph is having a amazing offensive season, I would say Jordan was better on offense though. The difference Jordan v Steph on D is a joke. Jordan has a DPOY and is an 1st team defender (like lebron)
Its getting to the point of no longer being a joke its getting sad now.
Player Efficiency Rating
widely renowned as being a largely offensive stat. His PER is why you can put a case for best offensive year ever.
Jordan has a PER marginally lower but far far superior D.
James has a 31.67 seasons with again better D.
the number is always weighted to advantage 3 pointers which is the reason why Steph is number 1.
each two point field goal made is worth about 1.65 points. A three point field goal made is worth 2.65 points. A missed field goal, though, costs a team 0.72 points. Given these values, with a bit of math we can show that a player will break even on his two point field goal attempts if he hits on 30.4% of these shots. On three pointers the break-even point is 21.4%. If a player exceeds these thresholds, and virtually every NBA player does so with respect to two-point shots, the more he shoots the higher his value in PERs. So a player can be an inefficient scorer and simply inflate his value by taking a large number of shots."
Curry isnt an ineffeicent scorer but taking and making alot of 3s is why his PER is soo high.
so given the two flaws of the PER is doenst really show D properly and is advantaging 3 pointers plays into stephs hands.
Im not going to even bother comparing Jordan to Curry.
But James v Curry i can pick 08/09 as both guys are basically the same age.
James PER 31.67 which is 4th best of all time (soon to be 5th best)
Lebron got the number 1 seed with basically nobody. Curry has 4-5 players better then Lebrons best support.
JJ been waived by Brooklyn. Who's he gonna go to? Cavs/OKC/Spurs/Clips/Warriors?
Quote from: jvalles69 on February 26, 2016, 12:57:35 PM
JJ been waived by Brooklyn. Who's he gonna go to? Cavs/OKC/Spurs/Clips/Warriors?
crosssing my fingers for Spurs Cavs. Clips makes the most sense.
probably will go to the warriors.
Quote from: Holz on February 26, 2016, 01:04:18 PM
Quote from: jvalles69 on February 26, 2016, 12:57:35 PM
JJ been waived by Brooklyn. Who's he gonna go to? Cavs/OKC/Spurs/Clips/Warriors?
crosssing my fingers for Spurs Cavs. Clips makes the most sense.
probably will go to the warriors.
All true, but OKC are the ones that desperately need a SG.
Quote from: Holz on February 26, 2016, 12:54:10 PM
Quote from: RiOtChEsS on February 26, 2016, 12:33:08 PM
Quote from: Holz on February 26, 2016, 12:19:52 PM
Quote from: Jayman on February 26, 2016, 11:43:06 AM
Skip said something smart!
http://espn.go.com/video/clip?id=14842860&ex_cid=espnfb
thats uncanny i was about to post Skip just said the dumbest thing ever.
I have had enough of this hype. Warriors best team of this era, Nobody has a shot against warriors this is boring now its Curry greatest season ever.
Talk about living in the moment.
You could put an argument that he is having one of the best offensive seasons ever ( even though this is not true) but best season ever.
Do people realise there is a thing called defense? How good a defender is Steph?
I can bring up soo many better seasons.
my best is shaq 99-00 I know not the best D ( 3 blocks) but 29.7 PPG 13.6 RPG 3.8 APG 3 BPG 57.4% FG
Wilt had crazy numbers but its hard to compare.
Lebron James has seasons with almost as good offense but much much better defense.
I will end this with Jordan. Since we are talking best of all time.
Jordan had 5-6 seasons easy better then Steph. Steph is having a amazing offensive season, I would say Jordan was better on offense though. The difference Jordan v Steph on D is a joke. Jordan has a DPOY and is an 1st team defender (like lebron)
Its getting to the point of no longer being a joke its getting sad now.
Player Efficiency Rating
widely renowned as being a largely offensive stat. His PER is why you can put a case for best offensive year ever.
Jordan has a PER marginally lower but far far superior D.
James has a 31.67 seasons with again better D.
the number is always weighted to advantage 3 pointers which is the reason why Steph is number 1.
each two point field goal made is worth about 1.65 points. A three point field goal made is worth 2.65 points. A missed field goal, though, costs a team 0.72 points. Given these values, with a bit of math we can show that a player will break even on his two point field goal attempts if he hits on 30.4% of these shots. On three pointers the break-even point is 21.4%. If a player exceeds these thresholds, and virtually every NBA player does so with respect to two-point shots, the more he shoots the higher his value in PERs. So a player can be an inefficient scorer and simply inflate his value by taking a large number of shots."
Curry isnt an ineffeicent scorer but taking and making alot of 3s is why his PER is soo high.
so given the two flaws of the PER is doenst really show D properly and is advantaging 3 pointers plays into stephs hands.
Im not going to even bother comparing Jordan to Curry.
But James v Curry i can pick 08/09 as both guys are basically the same age.
James PER 31.67 which is 4th best of all time (soon to be 5th best)
Lebron got the number 1 seed with basically nobody. Curry has 4-5 players better then Lebrons best support.
I was so disappointed this morning when I woke up and saw an email from my cousin who I grew up with during the 90's watching and playing bball, he put MJ and Curry in the same sentence... :'( It's spreading like the plague.
Quote from: jvalles69 on February 26, 2016, 01:12:36 PM
I was so disappointed this morning when I woke up and saw an email from my cousin who I grew up with during the 90's watching and playing bball, he put MJ and Curry in the same sentence... :'( It's spreading like the plague.
Im a Lebron fan who has made crazy calls that Lebron is as talented. I know this is a very big call and a wrong call but comeone curry has done nothing.
Quote from: Holz on February 26, 2016, 01:29:27 PM
Quote from: jvalles69 on February 26, 2016, 01:12:36 PM
I was so disappointed this morning when I woke up and saw an email from my cousin who I grew up with during the 90's watching and playing bball, he put MJ and Curry in the same sentence... :'( It's spreading like the plague.
Im a Lebron fan who has made crazy calls that Lebron is as talented. I know this is a very big call and a wrong call but comeone curry has done nothing.
Agreed...while Curry puts up another 40+pt game with 9 x 3pters and a 4th quarter to go... ::)
Quote from: jvalles69 on February 26, 2016, 01:56:44 PM
Quote from: Holz on February 26, 2016, 01:29:27 PM
Quote from: jvalles69 on February 26, 2016, 01:12:36 PM
I was so disappointed this morning when I woke up and saw an email from my cousin who I grew up with during the 90's watching and playing bball, he put MJ and Curry in the same sentence... :'( It's spreading like the plague.
Im a Lebron fan who has made crazy calls that Lebron is as talented. I know this is a very big call and a wrong call but comeone curry has done nothing.
Agreed...while Curry puts up another 40+pt game with 9 x 3pters and a 4th quarter to go... ::)
Brilliant offensive game.
I should be saying how fantastic he is going but now i need to compare him to Jordan. what did he do on defense and why was his +/- only 11 when they won by 16. 5 To wasnt great.
I have seen better.
I respect your argument and probably lean on that side of the narrative Holz but surely you get that you can't just point out one game and be like 'I've seen better'
Quote from: plumdog millionaire on February 26, 2016, 05:20:32 PM
I respect your argument and probably lean on that side of the narrative Holz but surely you get that you can't just point out one game and be like 'I've seen better'
this is one of if not his best games of his season/ever.
the numbers are crazy 74% FG for 51 points with 10/15 3 pointers. I have seen better was in regards to even Steph at his best (which I believe this is) isnt the best ever.
thats the benchmark he now has.
its a shame as if there wasnt all this hype I would be saying what a night. I love stats and this game is a thing of beauty but now i ask is it the best ever and sadly no its not even close.
I have no issue with Steph he is clearly the best player in the world at this stage (as much as it hurts to say a Lebron fan). He is on another level at this stage. This talk of best ever season on the best ever team though gets to me.
There is soo much expectations basically he needs to win a ring without going to any 7 game series. drop 30 points a night with 5+ 3 pointers. Basically he also has to win MVP next year.
I wonder if all the people saying how good he is think he will be the best next year. I wouldn't sleep on AD and Durrant and this all time stuff. He needs to peform at this level for another 5 years before we start talking Mount Rushmore.
So from 28 feet to 50 feet, Steph is 35-of-52 this season. Thats 67%. 2.02 points per possession. 101% true shooting
Just for more comparison, you're better off letting him take open lay ups, or pass to any open player under the basket. Heck you're better off sending him to the line every possession.
He's on track for the most effective and efficient offensive season ever
Lowry > Irving
Heat sign Joe Johnson 8) 8) 8)
Quote from: RiOtChEsS on February 28, 2016, 02:41:28 PM
Heat sign Joe Johnson 8) 8) 8)
You like the signing? The pieces on that team just don't seem to fit imo.
Quote from: Jayman on February 28, 2016, 03:10:42 PM
Quote from: RiOtChEsS on February 28, 2016, 02:41:28 PM
Heat sign Joe Johnson 8) 8) 8)
You like the signing? The pieces on that team just don't seem to fit imo.
They havent worked it out but a veteran ball handler, clutch jump shooter to the roster come playoff time i definitely good with
If your not watching the shootout between KD and Steph your missing out ;)
This is bonkers.
In case anyone forgot how good Kevin Durant is :P
I'm going to pass out.
Another 5 minutes of this :D
How about the ridiculous travel call on Steph... And then Donavon not taking a timeout when Durant was trapped in the corner ::)
Durant fouled out :o
Quote from: RiOtChEsS on February 28, 2016, 04:05:29 PM
Durant fouled out :o
I'm with JVG. Extra foul once the OT starts.
Curry has tied the NBA record for most threes in the season. There's still 24 games to go.
Yeah that Curry guy is average ;D
STEPH CURRY YOU ARE A BASKETBALL GOD
Holy shower, that was amazing
Quote from: RiOtChEsS on February 28, 2016, 04:21:55 PM
Yeah that Curry guy is average ;D
We are not worthy of him.
Quote from: Jayman on February 28, 2016, 04:24:45 PM
Quote from: RiOtChEsS on February 28, 2016, 04:21:55 PM
Yeah that Curry guy is average ;D
We are not worthy of him.
(http://stream1.gifsoup.com/view4/2035742/we-re-not-worthy-o.gif)
He is having the best season by anyone ever. Enjoy it people.
Cannot put into words how amazing the shower he is doing right now
yet still haters gonna hate ;D
Out fishing this morning...gonna record the foxtel replay...going to watch it before my ball game tomorrow...then gonna go 1/18 from long range! :P
Quote from: jvalles69 on February 28, 2016, 07:22:05 PM
Out fishing this morning...gonna record the foxtel replay...going to watch it before my ball game tomorrow...then gonna go 1/18 from long range! :P
haha ya definitely will after watching the crazy shooting in that game :D
Just some numbers to reflect what we're seeing at the moment :) Granted, these are mainly offensive but those happen to be the most important ones and its not like Steph's defense is at all bad so you could discredit these. He's 3rd in defensive RPM among PGs and opponents only shoot 43% against him - totally fine. Oh and then factor in that his team is 53-5.
Steph Curry 2015-16: 32.9 PER, .685 TS%, .340 WS/48, 13.3 BPM, 126 o.rating, 102 def rating, +26.3 on/off
Wilt Chamberlain 1961-62: 31.7 PER, .536 TS%, .286 WS/48
LeBron James 2012-13: 31.7 PER, .640 TS%, .322 WS/48, 11.6 BPM, 125 o.rating, 101 def rating, +15.3 on/off
Michael Jordan 1987-88: 31.7 PER, .603 TS%, .308 WS/48, 12.2 BPM, 123 o.rating, 101 def rating
Shaquille O'Neal 1999-00: 30.6 PER, .578 TS%, .283 WS/48, 9.7 BPM, 115 o.rating, 95 def rating
Kareem Abdull-Jabaar 1971-72: 29.9 PER, .603 TS%, .340 WS/48
Oscar Robertson 1963-64: 27.6 PER, .576 TS%, .278 WS/48
those stats seem inarguable...
Quote from: RiOtChEsS on February 29, 2016, 09:16:59 AM
those stats seem inarguable...
Question for Jay?
is Curry having the best season ever?
or are Kaly Draymond and the other Warriors being amazing?
alot of those stats are influenced by the team.
So either Curry all time great with a good team or curry is having a MVP quality season (not greatest) and the team around him is great.
I remind you the Spurs are 50-9 (better +/-) so if curry is having a all time great season then he better keep that up as it indicates if he drops down to just MVP the spurs are better.
Quote from: Holz on February 29, 2016, 09:54:09 AM
Quote from: RiOtChEsS on February 29, 2016, 09:16:59 AM
those stats seem inarguable...
Question for Jay?
is Curry having the best season ever?
or are Kaly Draymond and the other Warriors being amazing?
alot of those stats are influenced by the team.
So either Curry all time great with a good team or curry is having a MVP quality season (not greatest) and the team around him is great.
I remind you the Spurs are 50-9 (better +/-) so if curry is having a all time great season then he better keep that up as it indicates if he drops down to just MVP the spurs are better.
I think Curry is having the best season, and has a really good supporting cast. Put those two things together and you get a team who have a good chance to go 73-9.
I'm with you that the Spurs are awesome too, on track for the best point differential ever. Can't guarantee that the Warriors will beat them, but I presume they will. Actually after what we saw yesterday, I'm kinda thinking that OKC might match up best with the Warriors...
Quote from: Jayman on February 29, 2016, 12:07:58 PM
Quote from: Holz on February 29, 2016, 09:54:09 AM
Quote from: RiOtChEsS on February 29, 2016, 09:16:59 AM
those stats seem inarguable...
Question for Jay?
is Curry having the best season ever?
or are Kaly Draymond and the other Warriors being amazing?
alot of those stats are influenced by the team.
So either Curry all time great with a good team or curry is having a MVP quality season (not greatest) and the team around him is great.
I remind you the Spurs are 50-9 (better +/-) so if curry is having a all time great season then he better keep that up as it indicates if he drops down to just MVP the spurs are better.
I think Curry is having the best season, and has a really good supporting cast. Put those two things together and you get a team who have a good chance to go 73-9.
I'm with you that the Spurs are awesome too, on track for the best point differential ever. Can't guarantee that the Warriors will beat them, but I presume they will. Actually after what we saw yesterday, I'm kinda thinking that OKC might match up best with the Warriors...
Quote from: Jayman on February 24, 2016, 06:03:59 PM
The Thunder making the finals is an even more outrageous prediction than the Cavs winning it.
this is why I said the Thunder are a chance. Very very dangerous to Spurs and Warriors. I would love it as Cavs would find them the easiest with Lebron, KD kryptonite.
Thats the difference in the west with OKC and Warriors, GSW have a game winner in Curry, OKC have Durant and to a slightly lesser extent Westbrook, I wouldn't say Spurs have a proven game winner now, but have such a solid team.
Quote from: jvalles69 on February 29, 2016, 02:24:08 PM
Thats the difference in the west with OKC and Warriors, GSW have a game winner in Curry, OKC have Durant and to a slightly lesser extent Westbrook, I wouldn't say Spurs have a proven game winner now, but have such a solid team.
do they need a game winner?
I have always said there is no need to hit a game winner if you are up by 10
for the record I would say its Leonard. got to remember he does have the highest 3 point percentage in the league and a Finals MVP.
he can be a game winner on the other end of the floor with big stops.
http://espn.go.com/blog/new-york/knicks/post/_/id/64214/phil-jackson-compares-stephen-curry-to-mahmoud-abdul-rauf
http://www.foxsports.com/nba/story/oscar-robertson-says-steph-curry-shoots-so-well-because-modern-nba-defenses-are-trash-022516
On the bright side, at least none of us are this dumb :P
Quote from: Holz on February 29, 2016, 02:35:25 PM
Quote from: jvalles69 on February 29, 2016, 02:24:08 PM
Thats the difference in the west with OKC and Warriors, GSW have a game winner in Curry, OKC have Durant and to a slightly lesser extent Westbrook, I wouldn't say Spurs have a proven game winner now, but have such a solid team.
do they need a game winner?
I have always said there is no need to hit a game winner if you are up by 10
for the record I would say its Leonard. got to remember he does have the highest 3 point percentage in the league and a Finals MVP.
he can be a game winner on the other end of the floor with big stops.
That's what I meant, they have such a well rounded team they don't need one, but I think in crunch time if the games tight they don't have a proven guy to take the winning shot. Manu was prob the guy in the past, but I'd say they give it to Kawhi now, although he hasn't proved he can win games like that in the way Russ, KD and Curry can.
Quote from: jvalles69 on February 29, 2016, 02:55:15 PM
Quote from: Holz on February 29, 2016, 02:35:25 PM
Quote from: jvalles69 on February 29, 2016, 02:24:08 PM
Thats the difference in the west with OKC and Warriors, GSW have a game winner in Curry, OKC have Durant and to a slightly lesser extent Westbrook, I wouldn't say Spurs have a proven game winner now, but have such a solid team.
do they need a game winner?
I have always said there is no need to hit a game winner if you are up by 10
for the record I would say its Leonard. got to remember he does have the highest 3 point percentage in the league and a Finals MVP.
he can be a game winner on the other end of the floor with big stops.
That's what I meant, they have such a well rounded team they don't need one, but I think in crunch time if the games tight they don't have a proven guy to take the winning shot. Manu was prob the guy in the past, but I'd say they give it to Kawhi now, although he hasn't proved he can win games like that in the way Russ, KD and Curry can.
do you think he has proven that he can stop others from winning games though?
If it was 1 on 1 Leoanrd would beat curry easy but they will probably screen him most of the time soo it wont be 1 on 1.
Quote from: Holz on February 29, 2016, 03:27:35 PM
Quote from: jvalles69 on February 29, 2016, 02:55:15 PM
Quote from: Holz on February 29, 2016, 02:35:25 PM
Quote from: jvalles69 on February 29, 2016, 02:24:08 PM
Thats the difference in the west with OKC and Warriors, GSW have a game winner in Curry, OKC have Durant and to a slightly lesser extent Westbrook, I wouldn't say Spurs have a proven game winner now, but have such a solid team.
do they need a game winner?
I have always said there is no need to hit a game winner if you are up by 10
for the record I would say its Leonard. got to remember he does have the highest 3 point percentage in the league and a Finals MVP.
he can be a game winner on the other end of the floor with big stops.
That's what I meant, they have such a well rounded team they don't need one, but I think in crunch time if the games tight they don't have a proven guy to take the winning shot. Manu was prob the guy in the past, but I'd say they give it to Kawhi now, although he hasn't proved he can win games like that in the way Russ, KD and Curry can.
do you think he has proven that he can stop others from winning games though?
If it was 1 on 1 Leoanrd would beat curry easy but they will probably screen him most of the time soo it wont be 1 on 1.
that's why it's a team game Holz! ;)
(just teasing)
Quote from: Holz on February 29, 2016, 03:27:35 PM
Quote from: jvalles69 on February 29, 2016, 02:55:15 PM
Quote from: Holz on February 29, 2016, 02:35:25 PM
Quote from: jvalles69 on February 29, 2016, 02:24:08 PM
Thats the difference in the west with OKC and Warriors, GSW have a game winner in Curry, OKC have Durant and to a slightly lesser extent Westbrook, I wouldn't say Spurs have a proven game winner now, but have such a solid team.
do they need a game winner?
I have always said there is no need to hit a game winner if you are up by 10
for the record I would say its Leonard. got to remember he does have the highest 3 point percentage in the league and a Finals MVP.
he can be a game winner on the other end of the floor with big stops.
That's what I meant, they have such a well rounded team they don't need one, but I think in crunch time if the games tight they don't have a proven guy to take the winning shot. Manu was prob the guy in the past, but I'd say they give it to Kawhi now, although he hasn't proved he can win games like that in the way Russ, KD and Curry can.
do you think he has proven that he can stop others from winning games though?
If it was 1 on 1 Leoanrd would beat curry easy but they will probably screen him most of the time soo it wont be 1 on 1.
Yeah you can definitely look at it that way I guess, Kawhi on Curry/Durant, but we've seen Russ/Barnes/Klay hit game winners too so he can't guard them all, I think Kawhi is 1-2 years away from gaining that offensive killer instinct, although he might be forced to gain it now if these scenarios play out. They do have Green too though who is a solid wing defender himself.
Quote from: jvalles69 on February 29, 2016, 03:57:27 PM
Quote from: Holz on February 29, 2016, 03:27:35 PM
Quote from: jvalles69 on February 29, 2016, 02:55:15 PM
Quote from: Holz on February 29, 2016, 02:35:25 PM
Quote from: jvalles69 on February 29, 2016, 02:24:08 PM
Thats the difference in the west with OKC and Warriors, GSW have a game winner in Curry, OKC have Durant and to a slightly lesser extent Westbrook, I wouldn't say Spurs have a proven game winner now, but have such a solid team.
do they need a game winner?
I have always said there is no need to hit a game winner if you are up by 10
for the record I would say its Leonard. got to remember he does have the highest 3 point percentage in the league and a Finals MVP.
he can be a game winner on the other end of the floor with big stops.
That's what I meant, they have such a well rounded team they don't need one, but I think in crunch time if the games tight they don't have a proven guy to take the winning shot. Manu was prob the guy in the past, but I'd say they give it to Kawhi now, although he hasn't proved he can win games like that in the way Russ, KD and Curry can.
do you think he has proven that he can stop others from winning games though?
If it was 1 on 1 Leoanrd would beat curry easy but they will probably screen him most of the time soo it wont be 1 on 1.
Yeah you can definitely look at it that way I guess, Kawhi on Curry/Durant, but we've seen Russ/Barnes/Klay hit game winners too so he can't guard them all, I think Kawhi is 1-2 years away from gaining that offensive killer instinct, although he might be forced to gain it now if these scenarios play out. They do have Green too though who is a solid wing defender himself.
yep thats it i probably wouldnt want the ball in his hands yet for a game winner. But they are blowing teams off the court (biggest +/- ever) so maybe he wont have too.
Aldridge has shown to be pretty clutch as well if you need 2 points especially. I think they will win alot of games +5 points so there wont be a need. Remember 2014?
Quote from: Holz on February 29, 2016, 04:07:42 PM
Quote from: jvalles69 on February 29, 2016, 03:57:27 PM
Quote from: Holz on February 29, 2016, 03:27:35 PM
Quote from: jvalles69 on February 29, 2016, 02:55:15 PM
Quote from: Holz on February 29, 2016, 02:35:25 PM
Quote from: jvalles69 on February 29, 2016, 02:24:08 PM
Thats the difference in the west with OKC and Warriors, GSW have a game winner in Curry, OKC have Durant and to a slightly lesser extent Westbrook, I wouldn't say Spurs have a proven game winner now, but have such a solid team.
do they need a game winner?
I have always said there is no need to hit a game winner if you are up by 10
for the record I would say its Leonard. got to remember he does have the highest 3 point percentage in the league and a Finals MVP.
he can be a game winner on the other end of the floor with big stops.
That's what I meant, they have such a well rounded team they don't need one, but I think in crunch time if the games tight they don't have a proven guy to take the winning shot. Manu was prob the guy in the past, but I'd say they give it to Kawhi now, although he hasn't proved he can win games like that in the way Russ, KD and Curry can.
do you think he has proven that he can stop others from winning games though?
If it was 1 on 1 Leoanrd would beat curry easy but they will probably screen him most of the time soo it wont be 1 on 1.
Yeah you can definitely look at it that way I guess, Kawhi on Curry/Durant, but we've seen Russ/Barnes/Klay hit game winners too so he can't guard them all, I think Kawhi is 1-2 years away from gaining that offensive killer instinct, although he might be forced to gain it now if these scenarios play out. They do have Green too though who is a solid wing defender himself.
yep thats it i probably wouldnt want the ball in his hands yet for a game winner. But they are blowing teams off the court (biggest +/- ever) so maybe he wont have too.
Aldridge has shown to be pretty clutch as well if you need 2 points especially. I think they will win alot of games +5 points so there wont be a need. Remember 2014?
Yeah I was going to mention Aldridge, but as he's the new guy they might not necessarily want to put the ball in his hands yet, but I'd be relying on Kawhi and Aldridge for that game winner, will give them the confidence to keep doing it.
Quote from: Jayman on February 29, 2016, 02:50:04 PM
http://espn.go.com/blog/new-york/knicks/post/_/id/64214/phil-jackson-compares-stephen-curry-to-mahmoud-abdul-rauf
http://www.foxsports.com/nba/story/oscar-robertson-says-steph-curry-shoots-so-well-because-modern-nba-defenses-are-trash-022516
On the bright side, at least none of us are this dumb :P
i dont have an issue with the Phil statement, their strokes look similar, i dont think he is "comparing" them as the article seems to suggest...
but Oscar Robertson what in the blue hell have you been smokin? :o
Quote from: RiOtChEsS on February 29, 2016, 07:18:15 PM
Quote from: Jayman on February 29, 2016, 02:50:04 PM
http://espn.go.com/blog/new-york/knicks/post/_/id/64214/phil-jackson-compares-stephen-curry-to-mahmoud-abdul-rauf
http://www.foxsports.com/nba/story/oscar-robertson-says-steph-curry-shoots-so-well-because-modern-nba-defenses-are-trash-022516
On the bright side, at least none of us are this dumb :P
i dont have an issue with the Phil statement, their strokes look similar, i dont think he is "comparing" them as the article seems to suggest...
but Oscar Robertson what in the blue hell have you been smokin? :o
He's saying that we've seen someone like Curry before, and I just don't agree with that.
But I agree, the Oscar comments are just completely outrageous :-X
Quote from: RiOtChEsS on February 28, 2016, 09:55:23 PM
Quote from: jvalles69 on February 28, 2016, 07:22:05 PM
Out fishing this morning...gonna record the foxtel replay...going to watch it before my ball game tomorrow...then gonna go 1/18 from long range! :P
haha ya definitely will after watching the crazy shooting in that game :D
So didn't have a chance to watch the game hit, but dropped 24pts and 5/7 from behind the arc! ;D I've picked up Curry's bad habit of pulling his hands away as he shoots the ball though! >:(
I've said a few times that we're (Spurs) are surprisingly awful at closing out close games.
Kawhi did hit a game winner against the Magic the other day tho. Definitely think he's our guy in that situation but the only way he's gonna get it is if Parker doesn't touch it... dude refuses to pass.
Quote from: Jayman on February 29, 2016, 11:34:01 PM
Quote from: RiOtChEsS on February 29, 2016, 07:18:15 PM
Quote from: Jayman on February 29, 2016, 02:50:04 PM
http://espn.go.com/blog/new-york/knicks/post/_/id/64214/phil-jackson-compares-stephen-curry-to-mahmoud-abdul-rauf
http://www.foxsports.com/nba/story/oscar-robertson-says-steph-curry-shoots-so-well-because-modern-nba-defenses-are-trash-022516
On the bright side, at least none of us are this dumb :P
i dont have an issue with the Phil statement, their strokes look similar, i dont think he is "comparing" them as the article seems to suggest...
but Oscar Robertson what in the blue hell have you been smokin? :o
He's saying that we've seen someone like Curry before, and I just don't agree with that.
But I agree, the Oscar comments are just completely outrageous :-X
yeah stylistically, statistically is just madness and i dont think Phil is that silly #benefitofthedoubt
So Whiteside is 23/25 from the free throw line...D'angelo Russell just blew up for 39 pts...and Warriors win another game with a fluke 3 this time without Curry...exciting times in the NBA!
Coach Scott probably thinks he took too many threes
Quote from: plumdog millionaire on March 02, 2016, 07:54:42 PM
Coach Scott probably thinks he took too many threes
Yep, will probably bench him next game.. ::)
really liking our run home, these smaller lineups were forced to run (no Bosh) are helping guys like Dragic and Deng get going
JJ looks like he is fitting in well so far 8)
Quote from: RiOtChEsS on March 02, 2016, 10:24:20 PM
really liking our run home, these smaller lineups were forced to run (no Bosh) are helping guys like Dragic and Deng get going
JJ looks like he is fitting in well so far 8)
I think Bosh is really underrated and that Miami can't go far without him, but things are looking positive since the Joe signing. I feel like D Wade is the guy who doesn't fit with the style they should be running :-X
How funny would it be if Miami could knock off Cleveland
Quote from: RiOtChEsS on February 29, 2016, 07:18:15 PM
but Oscar Robertson what in the blue hell have you been smokin? :o
I think he may have been mis-interpreted.
Defence back then was a lot tougher because you could hand-check and body-check players and not be called for a foul. So defenders could play closer to the man which makes it tougher to get a jump shot off (hence why someone like Larry Bird could take 200 odd 3pt'ers and be considered a lights out shooter).
In current day defence you can't hand-check or body-check a player (unless its in the post :P) so you have to be a step back from your opponent. This gives players space to take more long range jump shots.
That coupled with the quick release of Curry's shot means he can shoot so many more long range shots.
Quote from: valkorum on March 03, 2016, 01:04:48 PM
Quote from: RiOtChEsS on February 29, 2016, 07:18:15 PM
but Oscar Robertson what in the blue hell have you been smokin? :o
I think he may have been mis-interpreted.
Defence back then was a lot tougher because you could hand-check and body-check players and not be called for a foul. So defenders could play closer to the man which makes it tougher to get a jump shot off (hence why someone like Larry Bird could take 200 odd 3pt'ers and be considered a lights out shooter).
In current day defence you can't hand-check or body-check a player (unless its in the post :P) so you have to be a step back from your opponent. This gives players space to take more long range jump shots.
That coupled with the quick release of Curry's shot means he can shoot so many more long range shots.
He has a point if curry played in that era then i dont think he would be anywhere as effecient and score as much. Still would just not these levels.
Thats why comparing his PER to jordan is ridicolous as is the statement he is having the best season ever
J-Will appreciation day (always happens on a Thursday)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jAG3JKIDmSQ
What a meltdown by the Thunder... Couple of tough losses this week
Quote from: plumdog millionaire on March 03, 2016, 06:06:44 PM
What a meltdown by the Thunder... Couple of tough losses this week
Was watching the box scores and they crumbled! :o
Quote from: plumdog millionaire on March 03, 2016, 06:06:44 PM
What a meltdown by the Thunder... Couple of tough losses this week
I don't think Donavon is very good. He's better than Brooks, but I thought the improvement would be really noticeable from the coaching change. That hasn't been the case.
Quote from: Jayman on March 03, 2016, 07:56:08 PM
Quote from: plumdog millionaire on March 03, 2016, 06:06:44 PM
What a meltdown by the Thunder... Couple of tough losses this week
I don't think Donavon is very good. He's better than Brooks, but I thought the improvement would be really noticeable from the coaching change. That hasn't been the case.
Yeah so far he has been solid, but forgettable in my opinion
Imagine this team with The Hon. Brad Stevens, MD. as coach
Quote from: plumdog millionaire on March 03, 2016, 09:03:22 PM
Quote from: Jayman on March 03, 2016, 07:56:08 PM
Quote from: plumdog millionaire on March 03, 2016, 06:06:44 PM
What a meltdown by the Thunder... Couple of tough losses this week
I don't think Donavon is very good. He's better than Brooks, but I thought the improvement would be really noticeable from the coaching change. That hasn't been the case.
Yeah so far he has been solid, but forgettable in my opinion
Imagine this team with The Hon. Brad Stevens, MD. as coach
He is the perfect human being.
Quote from: Holz on March 03, 2016, 01:38:32 PM
Quote from: valkorum on March 03, 2016, 01:04:48 PM
Quote from: RiOtChEsS on February 29, 2016, 07:18:15 PM
but Oscar Robertson what in the blue hell have you been smokin? :o
I think he may have been mis-interpreted.
Defence back then was a lot tougher because you could hand-check and body-check players and not be called for a foul. So defenders could play closer to the man which makes it tougher to get a jump shot off (hence why someone like Larry Bird could take 200 odd 3pt'ers and be considered a lights out shooter).
In current day defence you can't hand-check or body-check a player (unless its in the post :P) so you have to be a step back from your opponent. This gives players space to take more long range jump shots.
That coupled with the quick release of Curry's shot means he can shoot so many more long range shots.
He has a point if curry played in that era then i dont think he would be anywhere as effecient and score as much. Still would just not these levels.
Thats why comparing his PER to jordan is ridicolous as is the statement he is having the best season ever
Lolz Holz, Lolz ::)
Valk he could have worded his assessment a lot better and even still it doesnt have any merit, he is making it sound as though if you push up on Steph he cant blow by you and make plays...
"[Curry] has shot well because of what's going on in basketball today. In basketball today, it's almost like if you can dunk or make a three-point shot, you're the greatest thing since sliced bread...there have been some great shooters in the past...but here again, when I played...if you shot outside and hit it, the next time I'm going to be up on top of you. I'm going to pressure you with three-quarters, half-court defense. But now they don't do that. These coaches do not understand the game of basketball, as far as I'm concerned."All the while he is ignoring the fact just how far beyond the 3pt line this guy is lights out, the recent buzzer beater VS OKC the defender did push out meters beyond the 3pt line and Curry just pulled up from further out and drained it.
I dont have an issue with him trying to make a case that his era was harder or better or whatever he is aiming at but simply stating that "he shoots well because the defense is trash" is complete and utter horse shower, if this is the case then LeBron cant ever be the greatest, Kobe's numbers are inflated and every single statistic beyond the hand check era is pointless...
Quote from: RiOtChEsS on March 04, 2016, 11:43:15 AM
Quote from: Holz on March 03, 2016, 01:38:32 PM
Quote from: valkorum on March 03, 2016, 01:04:48 PM
Quote from: RiOtChEsS on February 29, 2016, 07:18:15 PM
but Oscar Robertson what in the blue hell have you been smokin? :o
I think he may have been mis-interpreted.
Defence back then was a lot tougher because you could hand-check and body-check players and not be called for a foul. So defenders could play closer to the man which makes it tougher to get a jump shot off (hence why someone like Larry Bird could take 200 odd 3pt'ers and be considered a lights out shooter).
In current day defence you can't hand-check or body-check a player (unless its in the post :P) so you have to be a step back from your opponent. This gives players space to take more long range jump shots.
That coupled with the quick release of Curry's shot means he can shoot so many more long range shots.
He has a point if curry played in that era then i dont think he would be anywhere as effecient and score as much. Still would just not these levels.
Thats why comparing his PER to jordan is ridicolous as is the statement he is having the best season ever
Lolz Holz, Lolz ::)
Valk he could have worded his assessment a lot better and even still it doesnt have any merit, he is making it sound as though if you push up on Steph he cant blow by you and make plays...
"[Curry] has shot well because of what's going on in basketball today. In basketball today, it's almost like if you can dunk or make a three-point shot, you're the greatest thing since sliced bread...there have been some great shooters in the past...but here again, when I played...if you shot outside and hit it, the next time I'm going to be up on top of you. I'm going to pressure you with three-quarters, half-court defense. But now they don't do that. These coaches do not understand the game of basketball, as far as I'm concerned."
All the while he is ignoring the fact just how far beyond the 3pt line this guy is lights out, the recent buzzer beater VS OKC the defender did push out meters beyond the 3pt line and Curry just pulled up from further out and drained it.
I dont have an issue with him trying to make a case that his era was harder or better or whatever he is aiming at but simply stating that "he shoots well because the defense is trash" is complete and utter horse shower, if this is the case then LeBron cant ever be the greatest, Kobe's numbers are inflated and every single statistic beyond the hand check era is pointless...
he would still score, can you honestly say he would drop 30 a night with a PER above 30, Like Jordan did?
He has been compared to those levels now. Its no surprise the older generation arent happy.
Quote from: RiOtChEsS on March 04, 2016, 11:43:15 AM
Lolz Holz, Lolz ::)
Valk he could have worded his assessment a lot better and even still it doesnt have any merit, he is making it sound as though if you push up on Steph he cant blow by you and make plays...
"[Curry] has shot well because of what's going on in basketball today. In basketball today, it's almost like if you can dunk or make a three-point shot, you're the greatest thing since sliced bread...there have been some great shooters in the past...but here again, when I played...if you shot outside and hit it, the next time I'm going to be up on top of you. I'm going to pressure you with three-quarters, half-court defense. But now they don't do that. These coaches do not understand the game of basketball, as far as I'm concerned."
All the while he is ignoring the fact just how far beyond the 3pt line this guy is lights out, the recent buzzer beater VS OKC the defender did push out meters beyond the 3pt line and Curry just pulled up from further out and drained it.
I dont have an issue with him trying to make a case that his era was harder or better or whatever he is aiming at but simply stating that "he shoots well because the defense is trash" is complete and utter horse shower, if this is the case then LeBron cant ever be the greatest, Kobe's numbers are inflated and every single statistic beyond the hand check era is pointless...
I agree he could have said it better, but your point of saying he did push up on him is totally disregarding the quote in bold (which I assume is from Oscar)
Oscar is saying that if a guy hits a 3, he starts picking him up from 3/4 court or half-court. The player defending Curry in the final moments started at the 3 point and pushed up - that's not a full court defence. That's a bad reaction to a situation that GSW created because they continued to play instead of calling a time out - smart play.
Your point of saying that if you press up on Curry, he will blow you away is absolutely spot on in current day NBA. He has fantastic handles and speed to get past a defender but in the past, players would body-check and hand-check their opponent so you couldnt blow past them.
2 different eras of basketball with 2 completely different styles and I personally like both (even though I played in the old style)
Old style - A lot more physical, half-court setup plays, a lot more post play.
Current sytle - Fast paced, outside shooters, pick and roll.
I know its only a regular season game but really excited to see what OKC bring tonight.
Westbrook will want to take curry out
Quote from: Holz on March 04, 2016, 03:29:51 PM
I know its only a regular season game but really excited to see what OKC bring tonight.
Westbrook will want to take curry out
Yeah he was really taking him out with that 5/21fg performance :D
Quote from: RiOtChEsS on March 04, 2016, 05:59:43 PM
Quote from: Holz on March 04, 2016, 03:29:51 PM
I know its only a regular season game but really excited to see what OKC bring tonight.
Westbrook will want to take curry out
Yeah he was really taking him out with that 5/21fg performance :D
he had a bad night and that highlights the weakness of the thunder.
1/8 3 point shooting shows he tried probably abit too hard and wont give up even if not his night.
when your team shots 4/20 from 3 point range you aint going to win.
Quote from: Holz on March 04, 2016, 06:08:19 PM
Quote from: RiOtChEsS on March 04, 2016, 05:59:43 PM
Quote from: Holz on March 04, 2016, 03:29:51 PM
I know its only a regular season game but really excited to see what OKC bring tonight.
Westbrook will want to take curry out
Yeah he was really taking him out with that 5/21fg performance :D
he had a bad night and that highlights the weakness of the thunder.
1/8 3 point shooting shows he tried probably abit too hard and wont give up even if not his night.
when your team shots 4/20 from 3 point range you aint going to win.
A big problem is even when they get open looks they're swinging the ball to the likes of Roberson, Foye, Waiters and Singler who just don't cut it
On a big possession late Westbrook did the right thing and passed up a good shot for a better shot in the corner... Only problem was that he passed it to Roberson, a 26% shooter from 3. It's kind of a huge problem as teams shade off him big time
I officially hate Steph Curry
YOU CANT BE THAT GOOD ITS NOT POSSIBLE NO
He's too good he's pissing me off, probably more so as i'm a Thunder fan.
Thunder have lost 10 games going into the 4th in the lead. If we had won those we'd be going for the record too.
But things like, Durant being double teamed with 15 seconds to go and not calling a time out or not helping him. or fouling on a potential game tying shot, or Westbrook taking fastbreak 3 when we had 15 seconds to make a play.
Stuff like that won't win us playoff matches,
Quote from: Holz on March 04, 2016, 11:59:53 AM
Quote from: RiOtChEsS on March 04, 2016, 11:43:15 AM
Quote from: Holz on March 03, 2016, 01:38:32 PM
Quote from: valkorum on March 03, 2016, 01:04:48 PM
Quote from: RiOtChEsS on February 29, 2016, 07:18:15 PM
but Oscar Robertson what in the blue hell have you been smokin? :o
I think he may have been mis-interpreted.
Defence back then was a lot tougher because you could hand-check and body-check players and not be called for a foul. So defenders could play closer to the man which makes it tougher to get a jump shot off (hence why someone like Larry Bird could take 200 odd 3pt'ers and be considered a lights out shooter).
In current day defence you can't hand-check or body-check a player (unless its in the post :P) so you have to be a step back from your opponent. This gives players space to take more long range jump shots.
That coupled with the quick release of Curry's shot means he can shoot so many more long range shots.
He has a point if curry played in that era then i dont think he would be anywhere as effecient and score as much. Still would just not these levels.
Thats why comparing his PER to jordan is ridicolous as is the statement he is having the best season ever
Lolz Holz, Lolz ::)
Valk he could have worded his assessment a lot better and even still it doesnt have any merit, he is making it sound as though if you push up on Steph he cant blow by you and make plays...
"[Curry] has shot well because of what's going on in basketball today. In basketball today, it's almost like if you can dunk or make a three-point shot, you're the greatest thing since sliced bread...there have been some great shooters in the past...but here again, when I played...if you shot outside and hit it, the next time I'm going to be up on top of you. I'm going to pressure you with three-quarters, half-court defense. But now they don't do that. These coaches do not understand the game of basketball, as far as I'm concerned."
All the while he is ignoring the fact just how far beyond the 3pt line this guy is lights out, the recent buzzer beater VS OKC the defender did push out meters beyond the 3pt line and Curry just pulled up from further out and drained it.
I dont have an issue with him trying to make a case that his era was harder or better or whatever he is aiming at but simply stating that "he shoots well because the defense is trash" is complete and utter horse shower, if this is the case then LeBron cant ever be the greatest, Kobe's numbers are inflated and every single statistic beyond the hand check era is pointless...
he would still score, can you honestly say he would drop 30 a night with a PER above 30, Like Jordan did?
He has been compared to those levels now. Its no surprise the older generation arent happy.
Absolutely, Holz. PER isn't a counting stat, the league average every season is always 15 - which makes it relevant in comparing across era's. I think if he played this way in the MJ era, he'd be even better and so would his teams, simply because he'd be just even more of an outlier. Teams struggle enough defending him in today's 3pt shooting era, imagine trying to stop him when he's shooting just completely different shots to everyone else! If you're saying he wouldn't be as efficient in the Oscar era, then I can agree with that but only because they had no 3pt line - so Steph's 28 foot jumpers are just worth 2, hence much less efficient.
The whole "defenses are crap now" thing is just ridiculous. What a pathetic way to try and rip on Steph. He's not Steve Novak for flowers sake, the dude has incredible quickness and speed, add that to his ball handling skills and you try guarding him for 3/4 up the court, you're just going to get roasted everytime. The brightest minds in basketball work in the NBA and if they can't figure out a way to stop Steph, it must be bloody hard and not just as simple as "Ohhhh back in my day we would have just picked him up full court" blah blah blah.
Yes LeBron, sometimes you do commit fouls..
These refs are terrible and LeBron has them on a string.
Quote from: Jayman on March 06, 2016, 01:41:28 PM
Yes LeBron, sometimes you do commit fouls..
These refs are terrible and LeBron has them on a string.
No Boston Bias?
Amazingly Lebron just moved to number 14 on the all time greatest list. Fantastic effort for a 31 year old.
Quote from: Holz on March 06, 2016, 05:18:41 PM
Quote from: Jayman on March 06, 2016, 01:41:28 PM
Yes LeBron, sometimes you do commit fouls..
These refs are terrible and LeBron has them on a string.
No Boston Bias?
Amazingly Lebron just moved to number 14 on the all time greatest list. Fantastic effort for a 31 year old.
??? 11yo ???
Don't mind the Kevin Martin signing at all! Hopefully he'll slot in to be a handy scorer off the bench.
Quote from: Holz on March 06, 2016, 05:18:41 PM
Quote from: Jayman on March 06, 2016, 01:41:28 PM
Yes LeBron, sometimes you do commit fouls..
These refs are terrible and LeBron has them on a string.
No Boston Bias?
Amazingly Lebron just moved to number 14 on the all time greatest list. Fantastic effort for a 11 year old.
No, he does this against every team. Gets every call and whines about the ones he doesn't get. I know he's still a top 2 player and all-time top 7 but since he's gone back to Cleveland he just hasn't been good to watch at all. Slows the game down, can't shoot, complains constantly - it's just miserable and I hope they get bounced early so we can at least have an entertaining east playoffs before the Spurs or Warriors win.
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Quote from: Holz on March 06, 2016, 05:18:41 PM
Quote from: Jayman on March 06, 2016, 01:41:28 PM
Yes LeBron, sometimes you do commit fouls..
These refs are terrible and LeBron has them on a string.
No Boston Bias?
Amazingly Lebron just moved to number 14 on the all time greatest list. Fantastic effort for a 11 year old.
No, he does this against every team. Gets every call and whines about the ones he doesn't get. I know he's still a top 2 player and all-time top 7 but since he's gone back to Cleveland he just hasn't been good to watch at all. Slows the game down, can't shoot, complains constantly - it's just miserable and I hope they get bounced early so we can at least have an entertaining east playoffs before the Spurs or Warriors win.
;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D yep this
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xlPJ3NAif8Q&feature=youtu.be
He's allowed to shoot jumpers again. All aboard the Jojo train!
Quote from: Mat0369 on March 06, 2016, 09:00:18 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xlPJ3NAif8Q&feature=youtu.be
He's allowed to shoot jumpers again. All aboard the Jojo train!
Saw this. He looks huge, there was a picture of him beside Nerlens and he looked 2 inches bigger and physically more built.
Jumping on the hype train big time!
Quote from: plumdog millionaire on March 06, 2016, 09:25:54 PM
Saw this. He looks huge, there was a picture of him beside Nerlens and he looked 2 inches bigger and physically more built.
Jumping on the hype train big time!
He grew 2 inches since the draft and is just all muscle.
(https://usatftw.files.wordpress.com/2015/12/screen-shot-2015-12-12-at-1-05-05-pm.jpg)
He posted this earlier in the year with the hashtag Shirley Temple after the media were trying to pile on him again because he apparently drinks a pitcher a day.
Even looking at him next to Jah and knowing the skills he has it's crazy
(http://thacover2.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/07/okafor-embiid.jpg)
putting more weight on a frame the feet cant handle already ;D ;D ;D
Glad he's shut the claims that he was out of shape. ROY 2016-17
Here is the pic he posted on Twitter
(http://i.imgur.com/22qcWyY.png)
I check his Twitter out every couple weeks, he normally has some pretty funny stuff on there.
I remember someone who had lower leg problems but massive talent.
people said he couldn't get healthy either
Quote from: Holz on March 06, 2016, 11:31:31 PM
I remember someone who had lower leg problems but massive talent.
people said he couldn't get healthy either
Sam Bowie? Andrew Bynum? Michael Olowokandi? Kwame Brown? Zydrynaus Ilgauskas? Bill Walton?
Not sure if anyone follows college as much as I do. But going to be interesting which teams go away from Simmons if they don't win the SEC which would be incredible if they did. I believe not playing in the tournament will hurt but he is too far infront still
Ingram could be the number 1 pick. It still looks like a 2 horse race but LSU is just a terrible team. I read the coaches seem to be avoiding running the offense through Simmons at the moment, he'll be a top 2 pick based on ceiling and the fact there is no one proven after him, but it wouldn't surprise me if a team like Philly go with Ingram instead.
Simmons terrible team, team terrible coach and he has a terrible jump shot so he can't win them games is how I see it. Ingram way too skinny for NBA but definitely has the class
People are starting to compare him to KD. You can put on size but class is permanent
Quote from: Mat0369 on March 07, 2016, 12:26:07 AM
Ingram could be the number 1 pick. It still looks like a 2 horse race but LSU is just a terrible team. I read the coaches seem to be avoiding running the offense through Simmons at the moment, he'll be a top 2 pick based on ceiling and the fact there is no one proven after him, but it wouldn't surprise me if a team like Philly go with Ingram instead.
Disagree with this. Every year people overthink it and end up trying to pick apart the standout prospect as it gets closer to the draft. Simmons has all this hype for a reason, he's the most talented player in the draft class, and one of the most gifted prospects we've seen over the last few years.
Quote from: Jayman on March 07, 2016, 02:04:07 AM
Disagree with this. Every year people overthink it and end up trying to pick apart the standout prospect as it gets closer to the draft. Simmons has all this hype for a reason, he's the most talented player in the draft class, and one of the most gifted prospects we've seen over the last few years.
Coming into this season Skal was viewed as a top prospect that could have possibly gone number one but has struggled at the college level, but because he was a top prospect heading into the season should a team draft him at 2? Hell no. Ingram has played lights out over the course of the season.
It's a two player draft, Ingram has done nothing to hurt his stock and keeps rising because of his ability to score. Simmons is an athlete that is really good at passing the rock but has a broken jump shot that hasn't improved, he is basically a 7 foot Ricky Rubio. Ingram is super skillful and has insane length (7'3" wingspan). It's not like a team is reaching for him, his biggest knock is his size because he is skinny.
Simmons isn't doing himself any favours by flunking his classes either. The questions are around what exactly is he doing in that time because he's game doesn't appear to be improving (could also be a coaching issue). It's going to be pretty funny if Ingram turns out to be the better NBA player and goes at pick 2, just hope Simmons doesn't have Oden's injury problems :P
Jokes aside, I'm not saying Simmons is going to be a bust, he'll probably be in the Andrew Wiggins mold but with better court vision. There is a real possibility that Ingram does become the better NBA player. It is a two player draft talent wise and then there is a drop off. A top two pick is going to be coveted.
I haven't seen him play yet but one guy I keep reading about is Buddy Hield. He is a bit older but he might be the best pure shooter in the draft. I think ge was sitting in the late teens earlier in the year but is looking at being around the 5 mark now
Quote from: Jayman on March 06, 2016, 11:48:28 PM
Quote from: Holz on March 06, 2016, 11:31:31 PM
I remember someone who had lower leg problems but massive talent.
people said he couldn't get healthy either
Sam Bowie? Andrew Bynum? Michael Olowokandi? Kwame Brown? Zydrynaus Ilgauskas? Bill Walton?
(http://assets0.ordienetworks.com/images/user_photos/1156700/Greg-Oden-Sad_fullsize.jpeg?91c651f8)
so can we pick Kevin Durant instead of this lemon yet?
Lakers I didn't expect that.
will be interesting to see if they can take the record now.
can only drop 3 games.
Have Spurs 3 times i would think they will take at least 1.
Portland twice
Clips once
Boston once
besides those 7 games should be pretty comfortable with the rest. saying that I wouldnt have picked today.
Spurs are only 2.5 games behind so if they win 2/3 of the matchups it could get very interesting.
Curry finally had an off night!
1 from 10 from 3 and then Thompson going 0 from 8, even Barnes went 0 from 4
Seems like the Lakers focussed on defending the 3 and it worked.
nothing but defence here between the Spurs and Indiana.
PG vs Kawhi battle is super intriguing!
http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2623084-lebron-james-kyrie-irving-reportedly-have-issues-with-on-court-chemistry
So that's Kyrie, Love and Blatt who LeBron has had an issue with in his short stint back with the Cavs. Who's next? ::)
Quote from: Jayman on March 09, 2016, 08:31:40 PM
http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2623084-lebron-james-kyrie-irving-reportedly-have-issues-with-on-court-chemistry
So that's Kyrie, Love and Blatt who LeBron has had an issue with in his short stint back with the Cavs. Who's next? ::)
The towel boy?
Quote from: valkorum on March 09, 2016, 09:11:53 PM
Quote from: Jayman on March 09, 2016, 08:31:40 PM
http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2623084-lebron-james-kyrie-irving-reportedly-have-issues-with-on-court-chemistry
So that's Kyrie, Love and Blatt who LeBron has had an issue with in his short stint back with the Cavs. Who's next? ::)
The towel boy?
The towel boy had it coming
http://www.fox29.com/news/local-news/103167802-story
Watching the Heat vs Bucks box scores and notice when Whiteside is on court Heat are winning and when he's been benched Bucks take the lead...why won't they truly unleash this guy? Seems destined to sit under the 30 min mark...
Quote from: Mat0369 on March 10, 2016, 03:39:22 PM
http://www.fox29.com/news/local-news/103167802-story
Damn. :(
Quote from: jvalles69 on March 10, 2016, 03:46:25 PM
Watching the Heat vs Bucks box scores and notice when Whiteside is on court Heat are winning and when he's been benched Bucks take the lead...why won't they truly unleash this guy? Seems destined to sit under the 30 min mark...
Not complaining as a Celtics fan ;D race to the 3 seed is on
Heard an interesting topic discussed today. If the NBA dissolved, wiping out all team needs, contracts etc. and there was a re-draft of current players. Who would be the top 10 taken? I've thought about it for a while and come up with this...
1. Steph Curry
2. Kevin Durant
3. Kawhi Leonard
4. Karl Towns
5. Anthony Davis
6. Paul George
7. James Harden
8. Russel Westbrook
9. Damian Lillard
10. LeBron James
Thoughts?
Quote from: Jayman on March 11, 2016, 11:43:14 PM
Heard an interesting topic discussed today. If the NBA dissolved, wiping out all team needs, contracts etc. and there was a re-draft of current players. Who would be the top 10 taken? I've thought about it for a while and come up with this...
1. Steph Curry
2. Kevin Durant
3. Kawhi Leonard
4. Karl Towns
5. Anthony Davis
6. Paul George
7. James Harden
8. Russel Westbrook
9. Damian Lillard
10. LeBron James
Thoughts?
Been listening to Dunc'd On, have we?
Quote from: plumdog millionaire on March 12, 2016, 12:00:14 AM
Quote from: Jayman on March 11, 2016, 11:43:14 PM
Heard an interesting topic discussed today. If the NBA dissolved, wiping out all team needs, contracts etc. and there was a re-draft of current players. Who would be the top 10 taken? I've thought about it for a while and come up with this...
1. Steph Curry
2. Kevin Durant
3. Kawhi Leonard
4. Karl Towns
5. Anthony Davis
6. Paul George
7. James Harden
8. Russel Westbrook
9. Damian Lillard
10. LeBron James
Thoughts?
Been listening to Dunc'd On, have we?
Yep. Less entertainment value than Simmons, but very knowledgeable.
Basically my only difference to their list (not including the order) is that I have LeBron over Cousins, I think.
1. Joel Embiid
2. Jah Okafor
3. Nerlans Noel
4. Jerami Grant
5. Dario Saric
6. Ish Smith
7. Robert Covington
8. Hollis Thompson
9. Nik Stauskas
10. Richaun Holmes
Quote from: Jayman on March 12, 2016, 12:04:15 AM
Quote from: plumdog millionaire on March 12, 2016, 12:00:14 AM
Quote from: Jayman on March 11, 2016, 11:43:14 PM
Heard an interesting topic discussed today. If the NBA dissolved, wiping out all team needs, contracts etc. and there was a re-draft of current players. Who would be the top 10 taken? I've thought about it for a while and come up with this...
Been listening to Dunc'd On, have we?
Yep. Less entertainment value than Simmons, but very knowledgeable.
Basically my only difference to their list (not including the order) is that I have LeBron over Cousins, I think.
Off topic, but Bill Simmons' analysis has really degraded recently, all he says is like 'he does stuff' or 'he's good', I reckon since he can't have ESPN guests there's no one to call him out on his random crap and he's kind of cocky when it comes to the NBA as opposed to NFL. Nate Duncan knows his shower though.
Quote from: Jayman on March 11, 2016, 11:43:14 PM
Heard an interesting topic discussed today. If the NBA dissolved, wiping out all team needs, contracts etc. and there was a re-draft of current players. Who would be the top 10 taken? I've thought about it for a while and come up with this...
1. Steph Curry
2. Kevin Durant
3. Kawhi Leonard
4. Karl Towns
5. Anthony Davis
6. Paul George
7. James Harden
8. Russel Westbrook
9. Damian Lillard
10. LeBron James
Thoughts?
Davis
Durrant
Leonard
Westbrook
Curry
Towns
James
IRVING
George
Lillard
I can defend every pick.
Davis over Curry by a huge huge margin.
Quote from: plumdog millionaire on March 12, 2016, 09:04:30 AM
Quote from: Jayman on March 12, 2016, 12:04:15 AM
Quote from: plumdog millionaire on March 12, 2016, 12:00:14 AM
Quote from: Jayman on March 11, 2016, 11:43:14 PM
Heard an interesting topic discussed today. If the NBA dissolved, wiping out all team needs, contracts etc. and there was a re-draft of current players. Who would be the top 10 taken? I've thought about it for a while and come up with this...
Been listening to Dunc'd On, have we?
Yep. Less entertainment value than Simmons, but very knowledgeable.
Basically my only difference to their list (not including the order) is that I have LeBron over Cousins, I think.
Off topic, but Bill Simmons' analysis has really degraded recently, all he says is like 'he does stuff' or 'he's good', I reckon since he can't have ESPN guests there's no one to call him out on his random crap and he's kind of cocky when it comes to the NBA as opposed to NFL. Nate Duncan knows his shower though.
100% agree. I was thinking about this exact thing the other day. The NBA guests he occasionally has on are still really good (basically any pod with Haralabob is awesome) but just his usual stuff with House is getting very repetitive. Stuff like him going on about body language is just yawn. I much prefer his coverage of NFL now, probably because him and Sal together are hilarious but also think he talks more sense.
Duncan doesn't have much personality through a podcast but yeah he knows his stuff and breaks it down really well. Stuff like the trade deadline simulation, mailbags etc. are as good as NBA pods get.
I wish Lowe did 2-3 a week though because he probably is still the best of the lot. ESPN and CBS ones are quite good apart from the fact I can't stand Windhorst, or Matt Moore haha.
Quote from: Jayman on March 12, 2016, 09:45:59 AM
Quote from: plumdog millionaire on March 12, 2016, 09:04:30 AM
Quote from: Jayman on March 12, 2016, 12:04:15 AM
Quote from: plumdog millionaire on March 12, 2016, 12:00:14 AM
Quote from: Jayman on March 11, 2016, 11:43:14 PM
Heard an interesting topic discussed today. If the NBA dissolved, wiping out all team needs, contracts etc. and there was a re-draft of current players. Who would be the top 10 taken? I've thought about it for a while and come up with this...
Been listening to Dunc'd On, have we?
Yep. Less entertainment value than Simmons, but very knowledgeable.
Basically my only difference to their list (not including the order) is that I have LeBron over Cousins, I think.
Off topic, but Bill Simmons' analysis has really degraded recently, all he says is like 'he does stuff' or 'he's good', I reckon since he can't have ESPN guests there's no one to call him out on his random crap and he's kind of cocky when it comes to the NBA as opposed to NFL. Nate Duncan knows his shower though.
100% agree. I was thinking about this exact thing the other day. The NBA guests he occasionally has on are still really good (basically any pod with Haralabob is awesome) but just his usual stuff with House is getting very repetitive. Stuff like him going on about body language is just yawn. I much prefer his coverage of NFL now, probably because him and Sal together are hilarious but also think he talks more sense.
Duncan doesn't have much personality through a podcast but yeah he knows his stuff and breaks it down really well. Stuff like the trade deadline simulation, mailbags etc. are as good as NBA pods get.
I wish Lowe did 2-3 a week though because he probably is still the best of the lot. ESPN and CBS ones are quite good apart from the fact I can't stand Windhorst, or Matt Moore haha.
House is literally his buddy from college, he's basically just a yes man to Bill and only balks at the excessively insane calls he makes (Like KD is a coward if he doesn't sign with Boston). Like having his dad on is cool maybe once a month but it feels a bit too regular, but even as a Celts/Pats fan its difficult to deal with the constant homerism (The amount of times they say 'we' in regards to the team gets really annoying imo).
Windhorst is such a jerk-off... Dude loves to bring up random shower like a training camp from 2009 when LeBron did this or some team meeting last month where LeBron said that, just to prove he's a confidant or he's in LeBron's circle or whatever... And ESPN keeps paying him for it cus they can't get enough.
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Heard an interesting topic discussed today. If the NBA dissolved, wiping out all team needs, contracts etc. and there was a re-draft of current players. Who would be the top 10 taken? I've thought about it for a while and come up with this...
1. Steph Curry
2. Kevin Durant
3. Kawhi Leonard
4. Karl Towns
5. Anthony Davis
6. Paul George
7. James Harden
8. Russel Westbrook
9. Damian Lillard
10. LeBron James
Thoughts?
Davis
Durrant
Leonard
Westbrook
Curry
Towns
James
IRVING
George
Lillard
I can defend every pick.
Davis over Curry by a huge huge margin.
The two I have the biggest problems with are Irving on it at all and Westbrook over Curry.
I cannot be convinced that you can build a team around Irving and expect to win and compete year in year out. Maybe in 2001 if you have the same model as Iverson's 76'ers but not in the current NBA.
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Davis
Durrant
Leonard
Westbrook
Curry
Towns
James
IRVING
George
Lillard
I can defend every pick.
Davis over Curry by a huge huge margin.
I've got to presume you're trolling us here Holz... How can Westbrook be above Curry? Russ is 27, how many more years of elite athleticism will he have left and how effective will he be when that declines? Steph's game is going to age beautifully because his IQ is off the charts and will likely be the best shooter in the league until he retires... Also, would like to hear why Irving > George, Lillard, Harden, Butler, Porzingis.
James above George is pretty crazy too :-X LBJ is 31 and can't shoot.. I'm not sure how many elite seasons he has left.
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Heard an interesting topic discussed today. If the NBA dissolved, wiping out all team needs, contracts etc. and there was a re-draft of current players. Who would be the top 10 taken? I've thought about it for a while and come up with this...
Been listening to Dunc'd On, have we?
Yep. Less entertainment value than Simmons, but very knowledgeable.
Basically my only difference to their list (not including the order) is that I have LeBron over Cousins, I think.
Off topic, but Bill Simmons' analysis has really degraded recently, all he says is like 'he does stuff' or 'he's good', I reckon since he can't have ESPN guests there's no one to call him out on his random crap and he's kind of cocky when it comes to the NBA as opposed to NFL. Nate Duncan knows his shower though.
100% agree. I was thinking about this exact thing the other day. The NBA guests he occasionally has on are still really good (basically any pod with Haralabob is awesome) but just his usual stuff with House is getting very repetitive. Stuff like him going on about body language is just yawn. I much prefer his coverage of NFL now, probably because him and Sal together are hilarious but also think he talks more sense.
Duncan doesn't have much personality through a podcast but yeah he knows his stuff and breaks it down really well. Stuff like the trade deadline simulation, mailbags etc. are as good as NBA pods get.
I wish Lowe did 2-3 a week though because he probably is still the best of the lot. ESPN and CBS ones are quite good apart from the fact I can't stand Windhorst, or Matt Moore haha.
House is literally his buddy from college, he's basically just a yes man to Bill and only balks at the excessively insane calls he makes (Like KD is a coward if he doesn't sign with Boston). Like having his dad on is cool maybe once a month but it feels a bit too regular, but even as a Celts/Pats fan its difficult to deal with the constant homerism (The amount of times they say 'we' in regards to the team gets really annoying imo).
Windhorst is such a jerk-off... Dude loves to bring up random shower like a training camp from 2009 when LeBron did this or some team meeting last month where LeBron said that, just to prove he's a confidant or he's in LeBron's circle or whatever... And ESPN keeps paying him for it cus they can't get enough.
Haha yeah exactly, no credentials whatsoever. Granted, I do think House is better in the NBA stuff than NFL - I almost couldn't listen to the NFL pods with him citing his ridiculous, pointless scenarios e.g. where team x is 12-38 following a loss by 14 points on the road, in the week before a bye. ::)
I laughed at the Durant thing, that was pretty funny, but I hope he was joking, haha. I think his Dad is a great guest to talk Celts/Pats stuff but yeah there isn't much variety anymore.
Lmao, I bet LeBron can't stand Windhorst. If I hear him talk for an hour and a half about the role he plays in AD's future by helping determine if he qualifies for the Rose Rule I'll freak. Even Skip and Stephen A are better than that guy.
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Quote from: Holz on March 12, 2016, 09:40:59 AM
Davis
Durrant
Leonard
Westbrook
Curry
Towns
James
IRVING
George
Lillard
I can defend every pick.
Davis over Curry by a huge huge margin.
I've got to presume you're trolling us here Holz... How can Westbrook be above Curry? Russ is 27, how many more years of elite athleticism will he have left and how effective will he be when that declines? Steph's game is going to age beautifully because his IQ is off the charts and will likely be the best shooter in the league until he retires... Also, would like to hear why Irving > George, Lillard, Harden, Butler, Porzingis.
James above George is pretty crazy too :-X LBJ is 31 and can't shoot.. I'm not sure how many elite seasons he has left.
Sorry westbrook i stuffed up as did on phone he should be after towns.
Lebron is there party due to box office attracting attention and players to play with him. It is a win now league, the guy has elite iq and passing i still stick him at point forward and watch his skill and brain do the work.
George is great but he isnt a legend like lebron. Duncan still a great rim protector at what 38.
Davis is young can do everything and willbe rhe best player in the league. He is stuck in a terribble system put him in a good one watch out.
Take out curry stick davis in golden state and it would be season over.
Durrant best offensive all round weapon yes over curry again give him a pass first point guard and he could drop 30+ a night.
Leonard is your quiet no fuss superstar. No greater organisian then the spurs. If you want to build a spurs like organisation then thats leonard. Defense wins championships so thats why im tipping they win.
Curry great but would love to see him alone.
People need to remember curry has 4 years on irving and 5 on davis.
Irving is cold bloded and a great player to build around give him time to mature and get healthy like steph did.
Best handles in the game and he can score at will when healthy. Cavs not the best fit for him.
Davis just insane any gm who didnt pick him should lose their job immeditely. The only reason not to is injury risk but upside so big its totally worth it.
"Michael Beasley was a very high draft choice."
"No pun intended"
Lmao (http://content.boards.philadelphiaeagles.com/public/style_emoticons/default/sideroll.gif)
C'mon Philly you pieces of shower! This could be the difference between Boston having the 3rd or 4th best lottery odds.
Don't know what's going on with the Thunder lately, before this season we were so good in closing out games and now we can't close a game out against the Timberwolves?
Not going to get anywhere if we have 26 turnovers in a game ::)
Hot take: Towns has a better career than AD
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Quote from: Jayman on March 12, 2016, 11:52:27 AM
Quote from: Holz on March 12, 2016, 09:40:59 AM
Davis
Durrant
Leonard
Westbrook
Curry
Towns
James
IRVING
George
Lillard
I can defend every pick.
Davis over Curry by a huge huge margin.
I've got to presume you're trolling us here Holz... How can Westbrook be above Curry? Russ is 27, how many more years of elite athleticism will he have left and how effective will he be when that declines? Steph's game is going to age beautifully because his IQ is off the charts and will likely be the best shooter in the league until he retires... Also, would like to hear why Irving > George, Lillard, Harden, Butler, Porzingis.
James above George is pretty crazy too :-X LBJ is 31 and can't shoot.. I'm not sure how many elite seasons he has left.
Sorry westbrook i stuffed up as did on phone he should be after towns.
Lebron is there party due to box office attracting attention and players to play with him. It is a win now league, the guy has elite iq and passing i still stick him at point forward and watch his skill and brain do the work.
George is great but he isnt a legend like lebron. Duncan still a great rim protector at what 38.
Davis is young can do everything and willbe rhe best player in the league. He is stuck in a terribble system put him in a good one watch out.
Take out curry stick davis in golden state and it would be season over.
Durrant best offensive all round weapon yes over curry again give him a pass first point guard and he could drop 30+ a night.
Leonard is your quiet no fuss superstar. No greater organisian then the spurs. If you want to build a spurs like organisation then thats leonard. Defense wins championships so thats why im tipping they win.
Curry great but would love to see him alone.
Last year, I would have agreed with you that at one stage Davis will be the best player in the world. But now Curry has the next couple of seasons on lock, and then by that time Towns will be better than AD anyway. I'm certainly with plum that Towns will have the better career.
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Quote from: Holz on March 12, 2016, 09:40:59 AM
Davis
Durrant
Leonard
Westbrook
Curry
Towns
James
IRVING
George
Lillard
I can defend every pick.
Davis over Curry by a huge huge margin.
I've got to presume you're trolling us here Holz... How can Westbrook be above Curry? Russ is 27, how many more years of elite athleticism will he have left and how effective will he be when that declines? Steph's game is going to age beautifully because his IQ is off the charts and will likely be the best shooter in the league until he retires... Also, would like to hear why Irving > George, Lillard, Harden, Butler, Porzingis.
James above George is pretty crazy too :-X LBJ is 31 and can't shoot.. I'm not sure how many elite seasons he has left.
Sorry westbrook i stuffed up as did on phone he should be after towns.
Lebron is there party due to box office attracting attention and players to play with him. It is a win now league, the guy has elite iq and passing i still stick him at point forward and watch his skill and brain do the work.
George is great but he isnt a legend like lebron. Duncan still a great rim protector at what 38.
Davis is young can do everything and willbe rhe best player in the league. He is stuck in a terribble system put him in a good one watch out.
Take out curry stick davis in golden state and it would be season over.
Durrant best offensive all round weapon yes over curry again give him a pass first point guard and he could drop 30+ a night.
Leonard is your quiet no fuss superstar. No greater organisian then the spurs. If you want to build a spurs like organisation then thats leonard. Defense wins championships so thats why im tipping they win.
Curry great but would love to see him alone.
Last year, I would have agreed with you that at one stage Davis will be the best player in the world. But now Curry has the next couple of seasons on lock, and then by that time Towns will be better than AD anyway. I'm certainly with plum that Towns will have the better career.
I'd take Wiggins to start with
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Davis
Durrant
Leonard
Westbrook
Curry
Towns
James
IRVING
George
Lillard
I can defend every pick.
Davis over Curry by a huge huge margin.
I've got to presume you're trolling us here Holz... How can Westbrook be above Curry? Russ is 27, how many more years of elite athleticism will he have left and how effective will he be when that declines? Steph's game is going to age beautifully because his IQ is off the charts and will likely be the best shooter in the league until he retires... Also, would like to hear why Irving > George, Lillard, Harden, Butler, Porzingis.
James above George is pretty crazy too :-X LBJ is 31 and can't shoot.. I'm not sure how many elite seasons he has left.
Sorry westbrook i stuffed up as did on phone he should be after towns.
Lebron is there party due to box office attracting attention and players to play with him. It is a win now league, the guy has elite iq and passing i still stick him at point forward and watch his skill and brain do the work.
George is great but he isnt a legend like lebron. Duncan still a great rim protector at what 38.
Davis is young can do everything and willbe rhe best player in the league. He is stuck in a terribble system put him in a good one watch out.
Take out curry stick davis in golden state and it would be season over.
Durrant best offensive all round weapon yes over curry again give him a pass first point guard and he could drop 30+ a night.
Leonard is your quiet no fuss superstar. No greater organisian then the spurs. If you want to build a spurs like organisation then thats leonard. Defense wins championships so thats why im tipping they win.
Curry great but would love to see him alone.
Last year, I would have agreed with you that at one stage Davis will be the best player in the world. But now Curry has the next couple of seasons on lock, and then by that time Towns will be better than AD anyway. I'm certainly with plum that Towns will have the better career.
I'd take Wiggins to start with
Slightly biased but Jabari>Wiggins
Embiid>Both :P
In order, I think this would be the lottery if you re-draft 2014.
Gordon
Wiggins
Jokic
Jabari
Hood
Smart
Exum
Mcdermott
Harris
LaVine
Capela
Randle
Clarkson
Nurkic
Ripping game vs OKC here!
Lmao, what a crazy game in Toronto. Drake, yes Drake, helps the Bulls commit a 5 second inbound turnover, but then Butler saves the day with what was probably the most impressive defensive play I've seen this season.
everyone got college basketball bracket done?
fair to say Bogut was fairly confident Curry would make the shot ;D
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=VbV9k3sIVdw
(sorry if I'm late to the party on this one :P)
Only a week late! Bogut dropped hie own 3 earlier today though.
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Only a week late! Bogut dropped hie own 3 earlier today though.
yeah thought so ;D I only just saw it on Back Page, and then they showed the 3 he hit as well
Today's game just showed how much this Crowder injury hurts the Celts. Starting Marcus at the three vs Paul George is really tough, but it's the best of some not so great options. And it doesn't get any easier with Durant tomorrow...
These next few weeks without Crowder are huge for Boston's playoff seeding - could stay at 3, could drop all the way to 6. I wouldn't be too upset with 6, I'd rather that than 4 or 5 just so we avoid Cleveland. Anyone else we can beat.
Get well soon, Bae!
This is even worse than I thought...
Yeah Crowder was ballin, it will sting...
I rekn we will hold onto the 3 seed from here out...
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Yeah Crowder was ballin, it will sting...
I rekn we will hold onto the 3 seed from here out...
I agree :(
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Quote from: RiOtChEsS on March 17, 2016, 05:24:44 PM
Yeah Crowder was ballin, it will sting...
I rekn we will hold onto the 3 seed from here out...
I agree :(
With Bosh going out, Deng has been ultra efficient, Richardson is emerging and Joey Joe Joe Johnson is gettin warm 8)
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Quote from: RiOtChEsS on March 17, 2016, 05:24:44 PM
Yeah Crowder was ballin, it will sting...
I rekn we will hold onto the 3 seed from here out...
I agree :(
With Bosh going out, Deng has been ultra efficient, Richardson is emerging and Joey Joe Joe Johnson is gettin warm 8)
Bosh is your best player though.. If he comes back healthy for playoff time, I think you could beat Toronto in the 2/3 matchup.
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Yeah Crowder was ballin, it will sting...
I rekn we will hold onto the 3 seed from here out...
I agree :(
With Bosh going out, Deng has been ultra efficient, Richardson is emerging and Joey Joe Joe Johnson is gettin warm 8)
Bosh is your best player though.. If he comes back healthy for playoff time, I think you could beat Toronto in the 2/3 matchup.
yeah i wasnt really clear, i was pointing out the depth is getting its groove on, Bosh can always slot straight back in ;)
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Quote from: RiOtChEsS on March 17, 2016, 05:24:44 PM
Yeah Crowder was ballin, it will sting...
I rekn we will hold onto the 3 seed from here out...
I agree :(
With Bosh going out, Deng has been ultra efficient, Richardson is emerging and Joey Joe Joe Johnson is gettin warm 8)
Bosh is your best player though.. If he comes back healthy for playoff time, I think you could beat Toronto in the 2/3 matchup.
yeah i wasnt really clear, i was pointing out the depth is getting its groove on, Bosh can always slot straight back in ;)
Richardson might just be the next really good 3 and D guy, locked up for another two years at just under $2 mil combined, wow.
Drafted 40th as well, classic example of the value of early 2nd round guys if you find a gem.
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Quote from: RiOtChEsS on March 17, 2016, 05:24:44 PM
Yeah Crowder was ballin, it will sting...
I rekn we will hold onto the 3 seed from here out...
I agree :(
With Bosh going out, Deng has been ultra efficient, Richardson is emerging and Joey Joe Joe Johnson is gettin warm 8)
Bosh is your best player though.. If he comes back healthy for playoff time, I think you could beat Toronto in the 2/3 matchup.
yeah i wasnt really clear, i was pointing out the depth is getting its groove on, Bosh can always slot straight back in ;)
Richardson might just be the next really good 3 and D guy, locked up for another two years at just under $2 mil combined, wow.
Drafted 40th as well, classic example of the value of early 2nd round guys if you find a gem.
that guy Devon Booker we were after before Winslow slid is lookin the goods too
RIP Celtics' playoff seed :(
Puttin a beatdown on the cavs right now 8)
Spurs are a sick team
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Spurs are a sick team
GSW are hangin around tho...
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Quote from: Jayman on March 20, 2016, 01:31:33 PM
Spurs are a sick team
GSW are hangin around tho...
Tonight's game is like what we'll see in the playoffs when its these two in the conference finals. Close all game, and will come down to who makes shots in the last couple of minutes.
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Spurs are a sick team
GSW are hangin around tho...
Tonight's game is like what we'll see in the playoffs when its these two in the conference finals. Close all game, and will come down to who makes shots in the last couple of minutes.
I dont see Curry shooting that bad 4 out of 7 games ;)
Back-to-back games didn't help GSW but still, pretty stoked with our D there.
When Curry's off his shot selection looks awful. Just goes to show how crazy it is when he's hitting them.
Still just a regular season game but hopefully this ends the championship is over already nobody can stop the warriors rubbish.
79 points, thats getting stopped.
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Still just a regular season game but hopefully this ends the championship is over already nobody can stop the warriors rubbish.
79 points, thats getting stopped.
Does the loss change anything for you?
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Still just a regular season game but hopefully this ends the championship is over already nobody can stop the warriors rubbish.
79 points, thats getting stopped.
Does the loss change anything for you?
loss of the warriors?
not really pretty much in the same boat as usual, I think they can be beaten when it comes to playoffs but i reckon they beat the spurs the next two times and will take out the bulls record.
I can conceded i probably now rate the spurs warriors on par (spurs ever soo slightly ahead) and then the thunder clippers capable of knocking both off ( but unlikely)
If spurs make the finals then they win as will probably take cavs out in 5. Warriors v Cavs probably will go to 7.
Thunder are capable of anything. Probably a little bias but i feel Thunder can beat anyone.
Hopefully that bad patch of performances are over and we can steam roll into the playoffs.
I like Donovans coaching of always having Westbrook and Durant on the floor!
LeBron unfollowed the Cavs on twitter ;D then when asked about it said "next question" ;D what a baby ;D
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LeBron unfollowed the Cavs on twitter ;D then when asked about it said "next question" ;D what a baby ;D
LeBron is the most calculated athlete I can ever remember. When he does something, we react to it - how is that a surprise to him?!
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Quote from: RiOtChEsS on March 23, 2016, 09:40:30 AM
LeBron unfollowed the Cavs on twitter ;D then when asked about it said "next question" ;D what a baby ;D
LeBron is the most calculated athlete I can ever remember. When he does something, we react to it - how is that a surprise to him?!
He likes him some drama since heading back to Ohio...
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LeBron unfollowed the Cavs on twitter ;D then when asked about it said "next question" ;D what a baby ;D
LeBron is the most calculated athlete I can ever remember. When he does something, we react to it - how is that a surprise to him?!
He likes him some drama since heading back to Ohio...
Drama started when he left Ohio.. Haha.
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LeBron unfollowed the Cavs on twitter ;D then when asked about it said "next question" ;D what a baby ;D
LeBron is the most calculated athlete I can ever remember. When he does something, we react to it - how is that a surprise to him?!
He likes him some drama since heading back to Ohio...
Drama started when he left Ohio.. Haha.
I rekn it shows the class of our organization, there wernt "distractions" in Miami, LeBron may have had his issues with it but it was dealt with in house and handled well, he felt ready to lead his home team to a title but perhaps overlooked the fact that the management in Cleveland is to quote an NBA legend "Turrrrrrrrible" and how that might effect his mindset :-X
Lebron should've known, he went from 2 unselfish players who want to win, to 2 guys who arguably care more about their own numbers rather than winning. Love Kyrie, but he needs to be the best player on his own team, and KLove has always cared about stats.
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LeBron unfollowed the Cavs on twitter ;D then when asked about it said "next question" ;D what a baby ;D
LeBron is the most calculated athlete I can ever remember. When he does something, we react to it - how is that a surprise to him?!
He likes him some drama since heading back to Ohio...
Drama started when he left Ohio.. Haha.
I rekn it shows the class of our organization, there wernt "distractions" in Miami, LeBron may have had his issues with it but it was dealt with in house and handled well, he felt ready to lead his home team to a title but perhaps overlooked the fact that the management in Cleveland is to quote an NBA legend "Turrrrrrrrible" and how that might effect his mindset :-X
I think LeBron in Cleveland would be fine if he just let everybody do their flowering jobs instead of getting involved with everything.
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Quote from: RiOtChEsS on March 23, 2016, 09:40:30 AM
LeBron unfollowed the Cavs on twitter ;D then when asked about it said "next question" ;D what a baby ;D
LeBron is the most calculated athlete I can ever remember. When he does something, we react to it - how is that a surprise to him?!
He likes him some drama since heading back to Ohio...
Drama started when he left Ohio.. Haha.
I rekn it shows the class of our organization, there wernt "distractions" in Miami, LeBron may have had his issues with it but it was dealt with in house and handled well, he felt ready to lead his home team to a title but perhaps overlooked the fact that the management in Cleveland is to quote an NBA legend "Turrrrrrrrible" and how that might effect his mindset :-X
I think LeBron in Cleveland would be fine if he just let everybody do their flowering jobs instead of getting involved with everything.
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Cavs down 10 vs... The Nets :o ;D
I've always given Lebron the benefit of the doubt, but now that he's come out saying he wants to play with a big 4 wtih CP3, Dwade and Melo, I can officially say I dislike the guy. Why come out and say this shower when you're playing with a team that has Kyrie and Love. Why would they want to play with Lebron?? I'm glad Dwade came out and said no comment, and don't put me in this, respect.
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Cavs down 10 vs... The Nets :o ;D
Between this and Phoenix beating LA yesterday, I'm giving up on getting the third best lottery odds :(
Quote from: jvalles69 on March 25, 2016, 01:54:52 PM
I've always given Lebron the benefit of the doubt, but now that he's come out saying he wants to play with a big 4 wtih CP3, Dwade and Melo, I can officially say I dislike the guy. Why come out and say this shower when you're playing with a team that has Kyrie and Love. Why would they want to play with Lebron?? I'm glad Dwade came out and said no comment, and don't put me in this, respect.
really? i gotta get a read of this...
Quote from: Jayman on March 25, 2016, 02:19:22 PM
Quote from: RiOtChEsS on March 25, 2016, 12:42:27 PM
Cavs down 10 vs... The Nets :o ;D
Between this and Phoenix beating LA yesterday, I'm giving up on getting the third best lottery odds :(
as long as your top 5 i rekn the chances are solid, rarely do the best odds get the number 1 pick (2 of the last 10?)
In light of recent events do we think LBJ stays in Cleveland next year?
Quote from: RiOtChEsS on March 25, 2016, 03:52:28 PM
In light of recent events do we think LBJ stays in Cleveland next year?
I'm of the opinion who gives a flower, and if he wins more titles with other studs on his team they don't count anyway. ::)
I think this is just showing that he is not in the conversation for greatest of all time. Had to form a "super team" so he could win a championship.
Quote from: RiOtChEsS on March 25, 2016, 03:52:28 PM
In light of recent events do we think LBJ stays in Cleveland next year?
Definitely.
this is all being way taken out of context.
during the all star weekend he mentioned at the end of his career he would love to play a year with his friends wade cp3 and melo. he said it was unlikely just something he would enjoy.
he wasnt saying this in the lead up to playoffs, he isnt trying to create a super team next year. He just has a dream of playing with his friends in his last few years in the nba.
this is a non story. who wouldnt like to play with their friends one day.
SB Nation has done the sums/trades and it can be done
Love traded for Carmello
Kyrie traded for CP3
Clear the books of everything else
Sign D-Wade on mid-level exception
Bird rights to re-sign Lebron
IF all of that did happen, you know there would be a bunch of guys who would be happy to take about $1M a year to be role players around those 4.
Quote from: valkorum on March 25, 2016, 06:41:43 PM
SB Nation has done the sums/trades and it can be done
Love traded for Carmello
Kyrie traded for CP3
Clear the books of everything else
Sign D-Wade on mid-level exception
Bird rights to re-sign Lebron
IF all of that did happen, you know there would be a bunch of guys who would be happy to take about $1M a year to be role players around those 4.
there would be zero need for melo.
a guy who just keeps shooting and has no D
paul lebron would be interesting as both can play point.
I doubt anyone wants to go to Cleveland ;D
LeBron gotta go elsewhere if he wants a 'super team'
Is he really signing 1 year deals in lieu of the new bigger CBA?
Or is he just going to pick and choose where he wants to be every year?
He is going to do the LeBron tour where he will play on 10 teams in 10 years claiming to bring a championship to every city. Up next is the New York Knicks!
Quote from: Mat0369 on March 26, 2016, 01:13:52 AM
He is going to do the LeBron tour where he will play on 10 teams in 10 years claiming to bring a championship to every city. Up next is the New York Knicks!
was actually thinking LAC, CP3 already there, LeBron signs with them, Griffin could easily be swung for Wade or Melo
Quote from: RiOtChEsS on March 26, 2016, 09:51:12 AM
was actually thinking LAC, CP3 already there, LeBron signs with them, Griffin could easily be swung for Wade or Melo
He won't want to move out of the east because then it means they have to play a good team before the finals.
Quote from: Mat0369 on March 26, 2016, 03:13:27 PM
Quote from: RiOtChEsS on March 26, 2016, 09:51:12 AM
was actually thinking LAC, CP3 already there, LeBron signs with them, Griffin could easily be swung for Wade or Melo
He won't want to move out of the east because then it means they have to play a good team before the finals.
but seriously what 'superstar' is going to Cleveland?
Id say if he is staying east there is more chance of heading back to Miami
Quote from: RiOtChEsS on March 27, 2016, 10:21:47 AM
but seriously what 'superstar' is going to Cleveland?
Id say if he is staying east there is more chance of heading back to Miami
Knicks have Porzingis, Melo and can probably bring in a couple of his boys. Isn't D-Wade a free agent? He also gets his big market, they don't have a coach that will reign him in which will appeal to him so he can get who he wants there and Phil Jackson in the front office.
Quote from: Mat0369 on March 27, 2016, 06:27:29 PM
Quote from: RiOtChEsS on March 27, 2016, 10:21:47 AM
but seriously what 'superstar' is going to Cleveland?
Id say if he is staying east there is more chance of heading back to Miami
Knicks have Porzingis, Melo and can probably bring in a couple of his boys. Isn't D-Wade a free agent? He also gets his big market, they don't have a coach that will reign him in which will appeal to him so he can get who he wants there and Phil Jackson in the front office.
D-Wade wont leave Miami, i should say i doubt...
Miami actually have assets to trade with as well, Bosh, Dragic, Winslow, Deng, Richardson, Johnson...
I think this Utah game is the toughest game Golden State has left on the schedule. They win this, 73 wins is a given.
Quote from: Jayman on March 31, 2016, 01:13:42 PM
I think this Utah game is the toughest game Golden State has left on the schedule. They win this, 73 wins is a given.
I know Pop will rest players but Spurs twice?
im tipping GSW to break the record then not make finals by the way
Is there anywhere I can watch the Knicks game???
Quote from: Holz on March 31, 2016, 01:20:26 PM
Quote from: Jayman on March 31, 2016, 01:13:42 PM
I think this Utah game is the toughest game Golden State has left on the schedule. They win this, 73 wins is a given.
I know Pop will rest players but Spurs twice?
im tipping GSW to break the record then not make finals by the way
I dont think the Spurs will at all try in the next two matchups. Maybe the game in San Antonio will be tough given the Spurs haven't lose their all season but this game in Utah off a back to back is probably tougher than vs the Spurs reserves team.
Pop showed his hand in that last matchup, and beat the Warriors. That's all he needed to see. Personally, I think he's sitting back and laughing at how hard the Warriors are going for the 73 wins. Falls perfectly into his plan really.. The Spurs will be prime come the WCF matchup.
The Warriors are placing emphasis on getting to 73 wins, but then play Anderson Varejao minutes in a close game... He literally ruins them when he is on the court.
Entertaining game though.
Quote from: Jayman on March 31, 2016, 02:46:37 PM
The Warriors are placing emphasis on getting to 73 wins, but then play Anderson Varejao minutes in a close game... He literally ruins them when he is on the court.
Entertaining game though.
wouldn't surprise me if varejo was a cavs spy.
cavs v warriors game 7. Warriors up by 1 with 5 seconds left he grabs a deffensive rebound then does a layup and cavs win by 1. then Varejo goes and high fives Lebron
So close, Utah. You'd have to think that the Bulls record is gone now.
I predict 74-8. Crazy..
Quote from: Jayman on March 31, 2016, 03:48:21 PM
So close, Utah. You'd have to think that the Bulls record is gone now.
I predict 74-8. Crazy..
My mate had 1.5k on Warriors to win 5+
Was sweating before they managed to get it to OT!
Quote from: Jayman on March 31, 2016, 03:48:21 PM
So close, Utah. You'd have to think that the Bulls record is gone now
4-14 FT in that last Q, trash
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on March 31, 2016, 06:31:14 PM
Quote from: Jayman on March 31, 2016, 03:48:21 PM
So close, Utah. You'd have to think that the Bulls record is gone now.
I predict 74-8. Crazy..
My mate had 1.5k on Warriors to win 5+
Was sweating before they managed to get it to OT!
:o
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on March 31, 2016, 06:31:14 PM
Quote from: Jayman on March 31, 2016, 03:48:21 PM
So close, Utah. You'd have to think that the Bulls record is gone now.
I predict 74-8. Crazy..
My mate had 1.5k on Warriors to win 5+
Was sweating before they managed to get it to OT!
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Haha, great pic and even funnier that I'm actually listening to Cube as I read this!
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on April 01, 2016, 08:57:57 AM
Haha, great pic and even funnier that I'm actually listening to Cube as I read this!
nice! which album? (im old enough to have been an angsty teen when "amerikkas most wanted" dropped)
Quote from: RiOtChEsS on April 01, 2016, 03:58:11 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on April 01, 2016, 08:57:57 AM
Haha, great pic and even funnier that I'm actually listening to Cube as I read this!
nice! which album? (im old enough to have been an angsty teen when "amerikkas most wanted" dropped)
That's crazy for me to think about dude. Golden years 8)
Quote from: My Chumps on April 01, 2016, 10:37:22 PM
Quote from: RiOtChEsS on April 01, 2016, 03:58:11 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on April 01, 2016, 08:57:57 AM
Haha, great pic and even funnier that I'm actually listening to Cube as I read this!
nice! which album? (im old enough to have been an angsty teen when "amerikkas most wanted" dropped)
That's crazy for me to think about dude. Golden years 8)
no pensioners card yet :D that album changed the landscape of music though, only 4 of us listened to hip hop in high school :o
No Crowder today vs the Warriors. This is going to get ugly :-\
Pumped for this game!
LeBron got away with a charge on The Hawks late in the game, he gets so many calls or not calls because he is LBJ ::)
Curry 9 TO's
Overrated
OVERRATED
Quote from: plumdog millionaire on April 02, 2016, 04:24:02 PM
Curry 9 TO's
Overrated
he is having the best nba season ever though and will one day overtake Jordan
Quote from: Holz on April 02, 2016, 07:11:41 PM
Quote from: plumdog millionaire on April 02, 2016, 04:24:02 PM
Curry 9 TO's
Overrated
he is having the best nba season ever though and will one day overtake Jordan
How much of what you are saying is sarcastic though
Quote from: plumdog millionaire on April 02, 2016, 07:34:52 PM
Quote from: Holz on April 02, 2016, 07:11:41 PM
Quote from: plumdog millionaire on April 02, 2016, 04:24:02 PM
Curry 9 TO's
Overrated
he is having the best nba season ever though and will one day overtake Jordan
How much of what you are saying is sarcastic though
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I'm up to the end of the third quarter and wow. What great basketball. Steph has been absolutely unbelievable, keeping them in it on the offensive end.
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Cheers Blazers ;)
I think Boston will need to go 5-1 in their last 6 to lock up the 3 seed - very possible with their next 3 games @ Lakers (with Crowder playing), Pelicans, Bucks.
Quote from: Jayman on April 03, 2016, 03:17:21 PM
Cheers Blazers ;)
I think Boston will need to go 5-1 in their last 6 to lock up the 3 seed - very possible with their next 3 games @ Lakers (with Crowder playing), Pelicans, Bucks.
Big result for the heat.
That means they have to go at least 2-1 vs Atlanta, Charlotte and Miami. That's some great scheduling right there man
CRYING JORDAN MEMES EVERYWHERE
What a finish. I thought I'd seen it all when Paige hit that shot.
I've never wanted the Suns to win more than I want them to win tonight...
@Mat - Hinkie was on Zach Lowe's pod. Pretty cool listen.
Karl Towns ties the game at Golden State with a minute to go :o
This kid is already a star.
HOW CAN THAT BE OVERTURNED!? #BanTheCharge
KAT FORCES THE TURNOVER!!
Overtime.
KAT just got switched onto Steph and forced an airball.
KARL ANTHONY TOWNS KARL ANTHONY TOWNS
I know they are 25-52 but geez these Wolves have a bright future.
KAT, Wiggins and Lavine just soo exciting.
just think they have potentially another top 5 pick to come on. If they could jag Simmons or Igram that would be insane.
Quote from: Holz on April 06, 2016, 04:19:51 PM
I know they are 25-52 but geez these Wolves have a bright future.
KAT, Wiggins and Lavine just soo exciting.
just think they have potentially another top 5 pick to come on. If they could jag Simmons or Igram that would be insane.
Completely agree. I've never seen a better 20 year old than Karl Towns. They get Simmons and its just unfair.
Quote from: Jayman on April 06, 2016, 04:23:21 PM
Quote from: Holz on April 06, 2016, 04:19:51 PM
I know they are 25-52 but geez these Wolves have a bright future.
KAT, Wiggins and Lavine just soo exciting.
just think they have potentially another top 5 pick to come on. If they could jag Simmons or Igram that would be insane.
Completely agree. I've never seen a better 20 year old than Karl Towns. They get Simmons and its just unfair.
Lebron?
still he is pretty good. kinda reminds me of when KG arrived not saying the same player just similar vibe. This time he has loads of talent. Still really like wiggins aswell.
here is one for you if Wolves landed a top 2 pick if i was westbrook I would head there.
Rubio can handle the ball
PG: Rubio
SG: Westbrook
SF: Wiggins
PF: Ingram/Simmons
C: Towns
Lavine
Muhammad
try taking that team out
Warriors cost me big time on the 6th leg of a multi, at home against the Wolves ffs ::)
Quote from: RiOtChEsS on April 06, 2016, 05:15:56 PM
Warriors cost me big time on the 6th leg of a multi, at home against the Wolves ffs ::)
Someone asked today on a Facebook betting page for some tips...Mine was abort all NBA bets until the regular season's over, too many DNP's, GTD's and shutdowns. ::)
Quote from: RiOtChEsS on April 06, 2016, 05:15:56 PM
Warriors cost me big time on the 6th leg of a multi, at home against the Wolves ffs ::)
would avoid the warriors they are stuck between going for the record and going for the championship.
I reckon they take neither.
2 games against spurs one in San Antonio
2 games against Memphis one in Memphis.
you would think they will lose 1 of them
Quote from: Holz on April 06, 2016, 04:30:51 PM
Quote from: Jayman on April 06, 2016, 04:23:21 PM
Quote from: Holz on April 06, 2016, 04:19:51 PM
I know they are 25-52 but geez these Wolves have a bright future.
KAT, Wiggins and Lavine just soo exciting.
just think they have potentially another top 5 pick to come on. If they could jag Simmons or Igram that would be insane.
Completely agree. I've never seen a better 20 year old than Karl Towns. They get Simmons and its just unfair.
Lebron?
still he is pretty good. kinda reminds me of when KG arrived not saying the same player just similar vibe. This time he has loads of talent. Still really like wiggins aswell.
here is one for you if Wolves landed a top 2 pick if i was westbrook I would head there.
Rubio can handle the ball
PG: Rubio
SG: Westbrook
SF: Wiggins
PF: Ingram/Simmons
C: Towns
Lavine
Muhammad
try taking that team out
Yeah sorry LeBron is probably the one you could argue. But I've got Towns over the likes of KD etc.
Quote from: Holz on April 06, 2016, 05:33:17 PM
Quote from: RiOtChEsS on April 06, 2016, 05:15:56 PM
Warriors cost me big time on the 6th leg of a multi, at home against the Wolves ffs ::)
would avoid the warriors they are stuck between going for the record and going for the championship.
I reckon they take neither.
2 games against spurs one in San Antonio
2 games against Memphis one in Memphis.
you would think they will lose 1 of them
They lose at San Antonio.
I still think the Warriors get 73.
Whats more impressive then 73-9 is 41-0 at home.
Anyone agree?
Quote from: Holz on April 06, 2016, 07:05:49 PM
Whats more impressive then 73-9 is 41-0 at home.
Anyone agree?
It's certainly arguable. I just think it's pretty awesome that we've got two record on the line when GS play Spurs in SA. Truly a special season.
Holy shower Hinkie stepped down(/fired?) as GM
Quote from: plumdog millionaire on April 07, 2016, 11:34:28 AM
Holy shower Hinkie stepped down(/fired?) as GM
we never got to see the end of his process.
the annoying thing for him is embiid will probably come back healthy, they trade okafor for a guard and then pick up simmons in the draft.
Quote from: Holz on April 07, 2016, 12:10:48 PM
Quote from: plumdog millionaire on April 07, 2016, 11:34:28 AM
Holy shower Hinkie stepped down(/fired?) as GM
we never got to see the end of his process.
the annoying thing for him is embiid will probably come back healthy, they trade okafor for a guard and then pick up simmons in the draft.
And Colangelo will take all the credit
Hinkie said he had lost 20lbs from November to January because it was so stressful...guess he's doing it for health reasons.
Philly is in a remarkably better position now than what they were when Hinkie was hired. Unfortunately, they were in an even better position yesterday.
Quote from: Jayman on April 07, 2016, 01:48:34 PM
Philly is in a remarkably better position now than what they were when Hinkie was hired. Unfortunately, they were in an even better position yesterday.
I still dont know why he got soo much ciritcism.
2013: they took Noel at pick 6. Thats looking pretty good besides Oldipio he was the best pick in top 10. Giannis Antetokounmpo at 15 was the only better later pick and he was never going to go at 6.
2014: Embiid at 3. I know he hasnt played a game but i stand by this pick up. Gordon at 4 and Smart at 6 maybe but the upside was much bigger in embiid (and still is)
Saric at 12 will dpeend if they can bring him over.. La Vine at 13 aint bad but at this stage he is just athletic.
2015: You have to go Okafor, Lakers should have taken him pick 2.
nobody has really screamed wow why didnt you go him.
Wiggins, Towns and Oladipo the only guys who look great and they all werent on the board.
all the other guys like Antetokounmpo were missed by many and at the time werent worth top 5 picks.
Quote from: Holz on April 07, 2016, 02:02:09 PM
Quote from: Jayman on April 07, 2016, 01:48:34 PM
Philly is in a remarkably better position now than what they were when Hinkie was hired. Unfortunately, they were in an even better position yesterday.
I still dont know why he got soo much ciritcism.
2013: they took Noel at pick 6. Thats looking pretty good besides Oldipio he was the best pick in top 10. Giannis Antetokounmpo at 15 was the only better later pick and he was never going to go at 6.
2014: Embiid at 3. I know he hasnt played a game but i stand by this pick up. Gordon at 4 and Smart at 6 maybe but the upside was much bigger in embiid (and still is)
Saric at 12 will dpeend if they can bring him over.. La Vine at 13 aint bad but at this stage he is just athletic.
2015: You have to go Okafor, Lakers should have taken him pick 2.
nobody has really screamed wow why didnt you go him.
Wiggins, Towns and Oladipo the only guys who look great and they all werent on the board.
all the other guys like Antetokounmpo were missed by many and at the time werent worth top 5 picks.
The bigger criticism is the lack of spending on FA's and not reaching the salary floor/barely reaching it for the time he was there. But everyone knew he was going to build through the draft, and when the time came, he would spend on the best FA's available.
Seems clear it was a personal decision though. Sixers wanted to bring someone on board to be his equal and that didn't fly with him, rightly so. Penned a 13 page letter, went on the Lowe Post to explain himself and resigned.
Haha yeah next year every team is under the cap so all that's left is how well he built through the draft...
For the losing they've done and the players they've acquired i don't see it as a positive, not totally a negative but it is not a positive
I only have a couple of criticisms throughout the whole Hinkie era.
1. Being overly cheap with his rookie contracts and losing a kid like KJ for nothing because of it.
2. Not taking advantage of the cap space he had by signing guys to deals which make them assets. Eg Corey Joseph, Bismack Biyombo, Aminu, Ed Davis. Those guys weren't going to be good enough to mess up his lottery ball strategy and they are at least good players. He signs a couple of those guys and the team looks a little better, he can better evaluate his talent on the team by giving them a better supporting cast, and he increases the team's assets. Instead, he just punted the space and now it's going to be very difficult to sign a guy to a good contract with all the teams with cap space.
3. Not until Collangelo came along did they get a half decent point guard. He drafted 2 active centres, but gave them no point guard to run the offense and get the ball to them in good spots. How can you evaluate the talent of big men when you're putting them in such a bad situation for them.
Those aren't huge criticisms and I think Hinkie did a fantastic job. He turned a team of Jrue Holliday, Evan Turner and Andrew Bynum into Noel, Saric, Embiid, Okafor, the highest ever chance at the number 1 pick this year, the Lakers pick, future kings picks, and a heap of cap space. His process was an intelligent one, and if the lottery balls had bounced differently they'd be sitting there with Karl Towns and Hinkie would look like a genius.
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Suns ;D
Raptors >:(
Kawhi is a monster
Quote from: Jayman on April 08, 2016, 02:04:12 PM
Suns ;D
Raptors >:(
Suns ... what, what?? What did I miss?? :P
I've just been hoping they tank for a highly unlikely chance at no1 pick ... even though remote, don't think Simmons would be a good fit?? ??? ;)
Quote from: j959 on April 08, 2016, 05:09:33 PM
Quote from: Jayman on April 08, 2016, 02:04:12 PM
Suns ;D
Raptors >:(
Suns ... what, what?? What did I miss?? :P
I've just been hoping they tank for a highly unlikely chance at no1 pick ... even though remote, don't think Simmons would be a good fit?? ??? ;)
They won a game :P I'm still holding out hope that Brooklyn can finish with a worse record than them, giving Boston the third best lottery odds ;)
Hinkie sold a hollow now to fans for the promise of a brighter future...
Hypothesize he did a good job all you like, meanwhile fans actually paid money for that sh!t and the future isnt exactly "brighter" :-X
Quote from: Jay on April 08, 2016, 11:30:46 AM
I only have a couple of criticisms throughout the whole Hinkie era.
1. Being overly cheap with his rookie contracts and losing a kid like KJ for nothing because of it.
2. Not taking advantage of the cap space he had by signing guys to deals which make them assets. Eg Corey Joseph, Bismack Biyombo, Aminu, Ed Davis. Those guys weren't going to be good enough to mess up his lottery ball strategy and they are at least good players. He signs a couple of those guys and the team looks a little better, he can better evaluate his talent on the team by giving them a better supporting cast, and he increases the team's assets. Instead, he just punted the space and now it's going to be very difficult to sign a guy to a good contract with all the teams with cap space.
3. Not until Collangelo came along did they get a half decent point guard. He drafted 2 active centres, but gave them no point guard to run the offense and get the ball to them in good spots. How can you evaluate the talent of big men when you're putting them in such a bad situation for them.
Those aren't huge criticisms and I think Hinkie did a fantastic job. He turned a team of Jrue Holliday, Evan Turner and Andrew Bynum into Noel, Saric, Embiid, Okafor, the highest ever chance at the number 1 pick this year, the Lakers pick, future kings picks, and a heap of cap space. His process was an intelligent one, and if the lottery balls had bounced differently they'd be sitting there with Karl Towns and Hinkie would look like a genius.
The only real mistake he made was not re-signing Ish which he admitted at the time. He put his eggs in the basket of waiting for Marshall and Wroten to get healthy and run the point while going with a rookie and an undersized shooting guard in the meantime. Wroten was cut and wasn't signed for a long time, Marshall is blah which was expected, Canaan is pretty bad and McConnell is more of your bench role player. It basically stunted the growth of two rookie bigs as there was no leadership or floor spacing while Canaan jacked up bad shots time after time. Ish isn't a world beater, but he had chemistry with Nerlens and helped lead the offense Brown wanted. It wasn't a coincidence they improved the second he came onto the team. Regardless of Jerry Colangelo they were probably going to bring Smith back.
Hinkie has done a really good job of getting maximum value out of his assets and building a solid core for them to build around. Bringing in Colangelo Jr. is a big mistake and the impatience of this ownership is basically going to end up with the team heading back into NBA purgatory overpaying guys to get them 30 more wins a year. I don't even understand how someone can agree to this plan and then bail so quickly, especially given the circumstances. If you are smart enough to understand what Hinkie was doing, how in the hell can you be so stupid to bail now and replace him with exactly the type of disaster that plagued this team for the previous decade? I know Colangelo Sr was basically forced on the ownership by the league, but the move alienated Hinkie and bringing in his son pushed him over the edge. Apparently he is also the one that leaked the 13 page resignation letter to the media. If they succeed it won't be because he stood down, but despite the fact he did.
Also Jay the reason he didn't use the cap space is because he wanted to be an attractive dumping ground for bad contracts to collect assets like they did with Jafail and Turiaf last year. Next year is the time they would look at adding free agents, it probably would have been after the last draft but they had to grab Okafor who was BPA so they couldn't start filling out the roster yet since all their potential stars are in the same position. I think he's always been open to signing a superstar or a free agent that could be part of the core going forward, he just wouldn't shell out ridiculous contracts to mid-level guys that catapult the Sixers to mediocrity, but no further. If the next phase is signing guys like that, guys like Dion Waiters, then I doubt he'd be on board with that.
Hinkie's smart enough to know the tanking can't continue indefinitely, but the "next phase" should be allowing the young guys to grow together, and swinging for the fences with a superstar signing should someone like that want to sign with Philly. It shouldn't be spending the cap space on over-priced, middle of the road guys. Jimmy Butler would have been the ideal target but I don't think he was ever leaving the Bulls.
The team was farked after the Bynum trade, Jrue had stress fractures in his legs which they never made public, but he was the only player with currency. Hinkie did an amazing job for clearing the picks Philly owes while getting maximum value for guys that were never going to be able to take the team to the next level. He cut the dead weight, managed to turn Jrue into Noel, turn MCW into the Lakers first round pick, drafted Embiid, Saric, Jah and Grant, has some good role players on cheap contracts like RoCo, Homes, TJ and Thompson, has an arsenal of picks including the Lakers first, the Heats first, the Thunders first (2 of those 3 will convert at the minimum) a pick swap with the Kings and a future first from a team that has been notoriously poor. Anyone that had an idea in Philly was 100% behind him and knew that he was behind where he expected to be after getting pick 3 in a 3 player draft twice in a row.
On a side note, Jojo has returned from Qatar where he has been rehabbing and is participating in full scrimmages for the first time that he has been in Philly. They might have finally got their superstar if there are no more setbacks. Add in a top 2 pick and they probably get superstar number two meaning the plan was a success.
http://www.philly.com/philly/sports/sixers/20160407_For_Sixers__it_s_the_end_of_Sam_Hinkie_error.html?viewGallery=y
"47 wins and 195 losses. That's the legacy now-resigned general manager Sam Hinkie leaves after nearly 3 seasons with the Sixers. People will call him a genius and an innovator, but at the end of the day there was never actually any plan besides tanking for picks."
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http://www.philly.com/philly/sports/sixers/20160407_For_Sixers__it_s_the_end_of_Sam_Hinkie_error.html?viewGallery=y
"47 wins and 195 losses. That's the legacy now-resigned general manager Sam Hinkie leaves after nearly 3 seasons with the Sixers. People will call him a genius and an innovator, but at the end of the day there was never actually any plan besides tanking for picks."
And it would have worked if they had just continued on the same path and not lost their patience after a relatively short time..
And that is unfortunately the circumstance in the NBA. You can't win a championship in the league without a superstar, to get a superstar when you're crap you have to go through the draft because they aren't going to sign with you in FA. To get one in the draft you need early picks, to get early picks you need the best odds to win the lottery. Superstars then attract superstars. You also don't give max contracts to mediocre players or you end up like the Pelicans.
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And that is unfortunately the circumstance in the NBA. You can't win a championship in the league without a superstar, to get a superstar when you're crap you have to go through the draft because they aren't going to sign with you in FA. To get one in the draft you need early picks, to get early picks you need the best odds to win the lottery. Superstars then attract superstars. You also don't give max contracts to mediocre players or you end up like the Pelicans.
Exactly free agents will/shpuld come if they land simmons or landed towns.
Wolves are pretty much the sixers wirh good lotery
Philadelphia will never, ever land a top tier free agent, ever :-X
NBA rookie contracts are 2 years with a 3rd year option, they wont have a winning record in the next 3 years ainec
Okafor will be out the door the minute his contract is up, Noel and Embiid may stay but how much will they play?
They have created this perpetual losing culture and will suffer with it long after they decide they now want to win
Shoot out going on in Atlanta, battling for the 3 seed. Celtics D not as disruptive as usual but getting good looks on offense.
Not without the usual horrendous charge call though..
Millsap is killing us..
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Shoot out going on in Atlanta, battling for the 3 seed. Celtics D not as disruptive as usual but getting good looks on offense.
Not without the usual horrendous charge call though..
hoping to tie it up tomorrow, what is the tie breaker i wonder...
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Quote from: Jay on April 10, 2016, 11:13:29 AM
Shoot out going on in Atlanta, battling for the 3 seed. Celtics D not as disruptive as usual but getting good looks on offense.
Not without the usual horrendous charge call though..
hoping to tie it up tomorrow, what is the tie breaker i wonder...
I tried to work out the 4-team tiebreaker between Miami, Atlanta, Charlotte, Boston. Didn't get very far :P
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Shoot out going on in Atlanta, battling for the 3 seed. Celtics D not as disruptive as usual but getting good looks on offense.
Not without the usual horrendous charge call though..
hoping to tie it up tomorrow, what is the tie breaker i wonder...
I tried to work out the 4-team tiebreaker between Miami, Atlanta, Charlotte, Boston. Didn't get very far :P
a win for us tomorrow literally gives us an identical conference and divisional record as your guys, so head to head?
do you think Doc Rivers is gonna keep resting starters the rest of the way being their seed is all locked up?
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Shoot out going on in Atlanta, battling for the 3 seed. Celtics D not as disruptive as usual but getting good looks on offense.
Not without the usual horrendous charge call though..
hoping to tie it up tomorrow, what is the tie breaker i wonder...
I tried to work out the 4-team tiebreaker between Miami, Atlanta, Charlotte, Boston. Didn't get very far :P
a win for us tomorrow literally gives us an identical conference and divisional record as your guys, so head to head?
do you think Doc Rivers is gonna keep resting starters the rest of the way being their seed is all locked up?
you guys own the series 2-0 so id say you guy will take it if it remains tied, we have 3 games left though so...
Blazers and Thunder drop one against the Wolves and Kings :o #gladicashedout
Eastern conference playoff seeding:
Atlanta have a one game lead in the loss column and have the tie-breaker over Charlotte and Boston already clinched. However, Miami have clinched the tie-breaker over Atlanta. Atlanta play @ Cleveland Tuesday and then @ Wizards on Thursday. So you would predict they finish 49-33. You'd have to say they are very likely to finish at the 3 seed.
Hornets, Heat and Celtics are all predicted to finish at 48-34 per http://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/2016-nba-picks/.
Miami play Orlando tomorrow, are @ Detroit Wednesday and back to back @ Boston Thursday. They have the tie-breaker over Atlanta, but not over Boston, and to be determined with Charlotte - which will come down to division won/lost percentage. Miami are currently 9-6, and Charlotte 7-7. So Charlotte need Miami to lose to Orlando, and then they'll need to beat the Wizards and Magic to tie up the division record. In that case, Charlotte will have the tie-breaker as they have the better conference record.
Boston play at home vs Charlotte and Miami, neither on back-to-backs. You'd have to say those two games will go a long way to deciding the seeding. We also already have the tie-breaker clinched over both Charlotte and Miami due to division record (somewhat helped by having Philly, Brooklyn and New York in our division :P).
Charlotte play @ Wizards tomorrow, @ Celtics and then at home vs the Magic to finish. The tie-breaker over Miami is the only relevant one they can claim, but even that is unlikely.
If Charlotte, Boston and Miami finish with the same record. The first round matchups will be Boston vs whoever wins the tie-breaker between Miami and Charlotte, Boston with home-court. And Atlanta vs whoever loses the Miami/Charlotte tie-breaker with Atl having home-court.
Western conference playoff seeding:
The Mavericks are locked in now leaving it between Houston and Utah for the 8th seed. The Jazz currently have a 1 game buffer and play @ Denver tomorrow, Mavericks and @ Lakers. However to make it interesting, Houston play Lakers, @ Wolves, and Kings. And Houston have a 2 game lead in conference record. You'd still say Utah because of the game lead but Houston are definitely not out of it.
The Mavericks can jump Memphis for the 6 seed too. They are currently equal in the loss column but play @ Clippers, @ Jazz and Spurs. Although, I'm not sure how many Clipper and Spur starters will play - my guess is not many. Memphis are @ Clippers and @ Warriors. And Dallas do have the tie-breaker over Memphis so they're odds on to avoid the dreaded Spurs and Warriors and instead play OKC in the first round.
Lottery odds:
The most important situation is the Brooklyn (Celtics) vs Suns. for the third best lottery odds. Brooklyn currently have 1 less win and go @ Pacers, who will still be trying to mathematically lock up a playoff spot, Wizards, and then Raptors who I assume will rest. Phoenix play the Kings and then @ Clippers.
If we cant get the 4th seed id rather us lose out ;)
Spurs are on a mission tonight! :o Playing elite D
And the bs foul calls for the Warriors begins ::)
Quote from: Jay on April 11, 2016, 10:42:48 AM
Spurs are on a mission tonight! :o Playing elite D
I want to see 41-0
invincible at home is probably the best regular season record ever. Better then 73-9 in my books.
Go Spurs Go.
im slowly turning into a spurs fan. How can you not they have been all class for this long. The only reason i havent been is they were the main team standing in the way of Lebron (3 finals against)
Spurs played a great 6 minute stretch to start the 3rd quarter. Then Curry just comes down hits two threes and the game's tied. Spurs margin for error is so small in this matchup.
72-9
Quote from: Jay on April 11, 2016, 12:34:05 PM
72-9
Now they have a 3 day break and then Memphis for the record. Barring a miracle you think they have got it in the bag.
:(
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Need Charlotte to get a win against Boston tomorrow, we need to pot out...
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Need Charlotte to get a win against Boston tomorrow, we need to pot out...
Pumped for this game!
Jerry Colangelo stood down and Josh Harris had a press conference introducing Bryan. There are a bunch of rumors flying around at the moment about the whole situation.
Theres a lot of talk going on about how people always suspected Harris just wanted to flip this team for a profit. Hinkie was supposed to build it back up so he could sell it for a huge profit, but Harris had a really bad year with his investments, and looks like he wants to flip it much quicker. That stuff all makes a lot of sense seeing what is going on here.
Josh Harris and Sam Hinkie supposedly had such a differing view towards the end, that Harris felt he couldn't even communicate that with him, and went behind his back to the commissioner. Harris doesn't care about basketball, and the narrative that he does is PR nonsense. He's a pure businessman and hedge fund guy through and through
Basically BC has come out and said he is going to make some trades and sign someone. The talk is he is going to go after DeRozan who is one of his boys from Toronto. There has also been trade rumors that have Noel and a first (not sure which one) going to the Cavs for Kyrie. He left Toronto in a pretty bad mess when he left. There were some posts on the Real GM boards from some Toronto fans detailing what happened. His best pickup in Lowry was his consolation prize after failing to get Steve Nash.....
So basically it sounds like he is going to do everything that Hinkie didn't. Trade away these assets for guys that aren't franchise changers and dish out big contracts to overpay guys
w0w car crash time in Philly :-\
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Need Charlotte to get a win against Boston tomorrow, we need to pot out...
Pumped for this game!
#celticstank
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Need Charlotte to get a win against Boston tomorrow, we need to pot out...
Pumped for this game!
#celticstank
celtic stank or celtics tank :D
2 games to go for the black mamba, i rekn he will go nuts in his last game in LA
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Need Charlotte to get a win against Boston tomorrow, we need to pot out...
Pumped for this game!
#celticstank
celtic stank or celtics tank :D
2 games to go for the black mamba, i rekn he will go nuts in his last game in LA
It got moved to espn 2 because Warriors ;D
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Need Charlotte to get a win against Boston tomorrow, we need to pot out...
Pumped for this game!
#celticstank
celtic stank or celtics tank :D
2 games to go for the black mamba, i rekn he will go nuts in his last game in LA
Tanky tank tank
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Need Charlotte to get a win against Boston tomorrow, we need to pot out...
Pumped for this game!
#celticstank
celtic stank or celtics tank :D
2 games to go for the black mamba, i rekn he will go nuts in his last game in LA
Tanky tank tank
Why? :-[
https://www.cleveland.com/cavs/index.ssf/2016/04/lebron_james_wishes_matthew_de.html
Of flower off LeBron. Delly is a 42% 3pt shooter who was wide open, meanwhile LeBron is not even at 30%. Great leadership not recommending one of your best 3pt shooters to shoot when he's open.
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Quote from: RiOtChEsS on April 11, 2016, 03:23:49 PM
Need Charlotte to get a win against Boston tomorrow, we need to pot out...
Pumped for this game!
#celticstank
celtic stank or celtics tank :D
2 games to go for the black mamba, i rekn he will go nuts in his last game in LA
Tanky tank tank
Why? :-[
Want that 6 seed baby (Stay away from the 1 vs 4/5 matchup). Atlanta have the tiebraker as well so 3 is out of reach
Quote from: Jay on April 12, 2016, 11:19:25 AM
https://www.cleveland.com/cavs/index.ssf/2016/04/lebron_james_wishes_matthew_de.html
Of flower off LeBron. Delly is a 42% 3pt shooter who was wide open, meanwhile LeBron is not even at 30%. Great leadership not recommending one of your best 3pt shooters to shoot when he's open.
His comment was i wish I had it the way I was shooting tonight
James was 4/5 from 3 point range
Delly was 1/4 before that shot.
when your hot your hot.
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Quote from: RiOtChEsS on April 11, 2016, 03:23:49 PM
Need Charlotte to get a win against Boston tomorrow, we need to pot out...
Pumped for this game!
#celticstank
celtic stank or celtics tank :D
2 games to go for the black mamba, i rekn he will go nuts in his last game in LA
Tanky tank tank
Why? :-[
Want that 6 seed baby (Stay away from the 1 vs 4/5 matchup). Atlanta have the tiebraker as well so 3 is out of reach
I'd be happy with that, certainly prefer the 6 to the 5 but I'm still after the 4 because home-court is a decent advantage for us. Although, we're playing like garbage at the moment...
Worst quarter Boston has played this season.
Quote from: Jay on April 12, 2016, 11:39:42 AM
Worst quarter Boston has played this season.
6 seed it is then haha.
5 seed would be the worst outcome
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Quote from: RiOtChEsS on April 11, 2016, 03:23:49 PM
Need Charlotte to get a win against Boston tomorrow, we need to pot out...
Pumped for this game!
#celticstank
celtic stank or celtics tank :D
2 games to go for the black mamba, i rekn he will go nuts in his last game in LA
Tanky tank tank
Why? :-[
Want that 6 seed baby (Stay away from the 1 vs 4/5 matchup). Atlanta have the tiebraker as well so 3 is out of reach
I'd be happy with that, certainly prefer the 6 to the 5 but I'm still after the 4 because home-court is a decent advantage for us. Although, we're playing like garbage at the moment...
fk yeah Hornets
This Celtics team never gives up. Would be nice to get a call from the refs though.
Oh and dayum RJ Hunter has a clean shooting stroke.
Turner has killed us...
Hopefully we don't drop the ball tomorrow so as we get the pleasure of a 1 game final before the playoffs 8) #4thseed #1gamefinal
Devon Booker becomes the fourth youngest person to score 1000 points :o
Quote from: RiOtChEsS on April 12, 2016, 01:14:16 PM
Hopefully we don't drop the ball tomorrow so as we get the pleasure of a 1 game final before the playoffs 8) #4thseed #1gamefinal
Not gonna lie, I want you guys first round 8) #BeatTheHeat
Quote from: Jay on April 13, 2016, 12:47:19 AM
Quote from: RiOtChEsS on April 12, 2016, 01:14:16 PM
Hopefully we don't drop the ball tomorrow so as we get the pleasure of a 1 game final before the playoffs 8) #4thseed #1gamefinal
Not gonna lie, I want you guys first round 8) #BeatTheHeat
Im not gonna lie either, i dont wanna see the C's unless we have to ;)
Nerlens Noel is in a lawsuit for trashing his rental property ???
They found weed and joint butts all over the place ::)
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Hopefully we don't drop the ball tomorrow so as we get the pleasure of a 1 game final before the playoffs 8) #4thseed #1gamefinal
Not gonna lie, I want you guys first round 8) #BeatTheHeat
Im not gonna lie either, i dont wanna see the C's unless we have to ;)
So Jay wants Heat v Celtics for R1 and Riot wants Heat v Hornets I gather
I'm projecting
Miami def Detroit
Atlanta def Washington
Charlotte def Orlando
Then it would be:
Boston @ Miami as the 3 v 6 if Miami wins, and
Miami @ Boston as the 4 v 5 if Boston wins
I don't even know what I prefer as a Celtics fan.
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Hopefully we don't drop the ball tomorrow so as we get the pleasure of a 1 game final before the playoffs 8) #4thseed #1gamefinal
Not gonna lie, I want you guys first round 8) #BeatTheHeat
Im not gonna lie either, i dont wanna see the C's unless we have to ;)
So Jay wants Heat v Celtics for R1 and Riot wants Heat v Hornets I gather
I'm projecting
Miami def Detroit
Atlanta def Washington
Charlotte def Orlando
Then it would be:
Boston @ Miami as the 3 v 6 if Miami wins, and
Miami @ Boston as the 4 v 5 if Boston wins
I don't even know what I prefer as a Celtics fan.
really want home court advantage, dont mind who we get if we get the 4th seed
ISO Joe. What a player
Bawston here we come
So Miami have moved in to the 3 seed and will clinch that with a win at Boston tomorrow - good luck ;)
However if Miami lose and Atlanta beat Washington. Atlanta will have the 3 seed. Boston the 4, Charlotte 5 and Miami 6 - I think that is right, as it will be based on the 3-way head to head records. If Miami and Atlanta lose, and Charlotte win we will have 4-way tie at 48-34 ::)
In that case, Miami will be the 3 as they will have won the division via tie-breaker over Atlanta. Atlanta 4 as they have tie breaker over Boston and Charlotte, Boston 5 and Charlotte 6. This would be the worst case scenario for me, I don't want to play Atlanta, and don't want Cleveland in round 2.
Detroit are locked in to the 8 to play Cleveland, and Indiana will go to Toronto.
Oh and, if Houston heat the Kings tomorrow, they get the privilege of being swept by the Warriors in round 1.
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So Miami have moved in to the 3 seed and will clinch that with a win at Boston tomorrow - good luck ;)
However if Miami lose and Atlanta beat Washington. Atlanta will have the 3 seed. Boston the 4, Charlotte 5 and Miami 6 - I think that is right, as it will be based on the 3-way head to head records. If Miami and Atlanta lose, and Charlotte win we will have 4-way tie at 48-34 ::)
In that case, Miami will be the 3 as they will have won the division via tie-breaker over Atlanta. Atlanta 4 as they have tie breaker over Boston and Charlotte, Boston 5 and Charlotte 6. This would be the worst case scenario for me, I don't want to play Atlanta, and don't want Cleveland in round 2.
Detroit are locked in to the 8 to play Cleveland, and Indiana will go to Toronto.
Oh and, if Houston heat the Kings tomorrow, they get the privilege of being swept by the Warriors in round 1.
Crazy finish to the season, good for the NBA
Indiana at Toronto, w0w that will be a good series
Heat are major underdogs going into tomorrow
Will Detroit take a shot at Cleveland tomorrow? will both teams just rest because they are getting each other regardless...
Is tomorrow the best regular season finale ever?
- Seeds 3-6 in the east all to be decided
- Warriors going for 73 wins
- Kobe's last game
Quote from: Jay on April 13, 2016, 09:50:46 PM
Is tomorrow the best regular season finale ever?
- Seeds 3-6 in the east all to be decided
- Warriors going for 73 wins
- Kobe's last game
spurs going for 41-0 would have been nice
Best that i can remember over the last 25 years...
Hearing whispers Patrick Ewing may get The Knicks job 8)
ESPN bringin their A game today
Kobe's last game on ESPN 1
Warriors on ESPN 2
Worst kept secret - Kings to fire George Karl
http://sports.yahoo.com/news/sources--kings-plan-to-dismiss-george-karl-on-thursday-160949970.html
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Worst kept secret - Kings to fire George Karl
http://sports.yahoo.com/news/sources--kings-plan-to-dismiss-george-karl-on-thursday-160949970.html
David Blatt is available :D
Celtics D ain't on tonight.. :-X
See ya on the weekend Miami! #BeatTheHeat
Inspired quarter by the Celtics!
Wow wow. 20-0 run for the Celts after being down 26.
Quote from: Jay on April 14, 2016, 12:42:48 PM
Wow wow. 20-0 run for the Celts after being down 26.
farrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrk :(
Crazy. Celts up ten :o
pros and cons to blowing a 26 pt lead on the road... will focus on the pros ;)
So 4 teams finish on 48 wins.
what happens Jay
3. Heat
4. Hawks
5. Celts
6. Hornets
What the hell.
Quote from: plumdog millionaire on April 14, 2016, 01:29:22 PM
3. Heat
4. Hawks
5. Celts
6. Hornets
What the hell.
So
Cavs v Detroit
Hawks v Celtics
Toronto v Pacer
Heat v Hornets
you would think Cavs v Hawks/Celtics
Toronto v Heat
KOBE BALLIN
HE GOING FOR 82
Pacers to take down raptors!
Quote from: plumdog millionaire on April 14, 2016, 01:29:22 PM
3. Heat
4. Hawks
5. Celts
6. Hornets
What the hell.
No home-court, playing Atlanta, Cleveland next round if we win. Worst possible scenario for the Celts.
Kobe nailed like 5 straight after missing 5 straight 8) 8)
I'm not the biggest Kobe fan out there but the video tribute got me slightly emotional.
All-time great channel flicking going on at the moment. Curry is on fire and Kobe shooting literally every possession ;D
Quote from: Jay on April 14, 2016, 02:09:06 PM
I'm not the biggest Kobe fan out there but the video tribute got me slightly emotional.
All-time great channel flicking going on at the moment. Curry is on fire and Kobe shooting literally every possession ;D
Sooo good hey :D
Cant believe we lost and kept the 3 seed :o
Whats the record for shots taken in a game? Kobe could smash it.
Quote from: jvalles69 on April 14, 2016, 02:16:13 PM
Whats the record for shots taken in a game? Kobe could smash it.
Jordan took 49 in 93
Curry needs 2 more triples for 400 in a season :o :o :o :o
Quote from: RiOtChEsS on April 14, 2016, 02:21:25 PM
Curry needs 2 more triples for 400 in a season :o :o :o :o
Can't explain how crazy this is.
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Curry needs 2 more triples for 400 in a season :o :o :o :o
Can't explain how crazy this is.
1 to go...
Kobe over 25pts was money for jam 8)
Kobe on 37, goin for 50...
flower Yeah Kobe!!!!!
Kobe with the game winner?
Please let it be
Today will make for an AWESOME 30 for 30.
Amazing day
I CANT STOP LAUGHING WHAT THE F IS THIS AHAHA
60 daggers 8) 8) 8) 8) 8) 8)
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Kobe with the game winner?
Please let it be
Kobe motherflowering Bryant
what a flowerin day dudes so awesome
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I CANT STOP LAUGHING WHAT THE F IS THIS AHAHA
Just some fkn crazy ass shower we saw today hahaha
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I CANT STOP LAUGHING WHAT THE F IS THIS AHAHA
Just some fkn crazy ass shower we saw today hahaha
speech afterwards ;D "all my career they tell me pass it, tonight they like don't pass it"
Congrats Lakers, 2015-16 NBA Champions! And Kobe Finals MVP, wow!
:P
Wow, will have to watch a replay of this game. Think he broke that most FG's record too...
Amazing!
Quote from: jvalles69 on April 14, 2016, 04:48:13 PM
Wow, will have to watch a replay of this game. Think he broke that most FG's record too...
took 50 shots, apparently he is the 5th guy to take 50 shots, none of the others from a recent era
So, the Warriors have won 73 games.
How's my boy! How about Kobe's 60 also!
Question is though, what is the magic number?
73 or 400 8)
Quote from: tbagrocks on April 14, 2016, 08:11:07 PM
How's my boy! How about Kobe's 60 also!
Question is though, what is the magic number?
73 or 400 8)
both
Quote from: RiOtChEsS on April 14, 2016, 11:35:51 PM
Quote from: tbagrocks on April 14, 2016, 08:11:07 PM
How's my boy! How about Kobe's 60 also!
Question is though, what is the magic number?
73 or 400 8)
both
Steph could beat 400 next year. 73-9 ain't getting broken for a very long time ;)
Quote from: Jay on April 14, 2016, 11:38:14 PM
Quote from: RiOtChEsS on April 14, 2016, 11:35:51 PM
Quote from: tbagrocks on April 14, 2016, 08:11:07 PM
How's my boy! How about Kobe's 60 also!
Question is though, what is the magic number?
73 or 400 8)
both
Steph could beat 400 next year. 73-9 ain't getting broken for a very long time ;)
Im not convinced, that is the ceiling surely, if he can make more crazy shots at a higher efficiency id be flabbergasted
Cavs over Pistons in 5
Raptors over Pacers in 7
Charlotte over Miami in 6
Boston over Atlanta in 7
Warriors over Rockets in 4
Spurs over Memphis in 4
OKC over Dallas in 6
Clippers over Portland in 5
Quote from: Jay on April 15, 2016, 05:04:45 PM
Cavs over Pistons in 5
Raptors over Pacers in 7
Charlotte over Miami in 6
Boston over Atlanta in 7
Warriors over Rockets in 4
Spurs over Memphis in 4
OKC over Dallas in 6
Clippers over Portland in 5
Cavs over Pistons in 4
Raptors over Pacers in 6
Miami over Hornets in 6
Atlanta over Boston in 7
Warriors over Rockets in 5
Spurs over Memphis in 4
OKC over Dallas in 4
Clippers over Blazers in 6
Cavs > Pistons in 4
Pacers > Raptors in 7
Miami > Hornets in 6
Atlanta > Boston in 7
Warriors > Rockets in 4
Spurs > Memphis in 4
OKC > Dallas in 5
Clippers > Portland in 5
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How's my boy! How about Kobe's 60 also!
Question is though, what is the magic number?
73 or 400 8)
both
Steph could beat 400 next year. 73-9 ain't getting broken for a very long time ;)
Im not convinced, that is the ceiling surely, if he can make more crazy shots at a higher efficiency id be flabbergasted
Yeah i'd almost say that the Warriors have a better shot at 74-8 than Steph beating 400+ :o I mean sheesh, nobody has pulled as many shots out of their arse and nevr will again :P
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Quote from: RiOtChEsS on April 14, 2016, 11:35:51 PM
Quote from: tbagrocks on April 14, 2016, 08:11:07 PM
How's my boy! How about Kobe's 60 also!
Question is though, what is the magic number?
73 or 400 8)
both
Steph could beat 400 next year. 73-9 ain't getting broken for a very long time ;)
Im not convinced, that is the ceiling surely, if he can make more crazy shots at a higher efficiency id be flabbergasted
Yeah i'd almost say that the Warriors have a better shot at 74-8 than Steph beating 400+ :o I mean sheesh, nobody has pulled as many shots out of their arse and nevr will again :P
haha i cant argue with that, should he top we would be witnessing another realm of sharp shooting
Cavs over Pistons in 4 (Pistons got nothing for Cavs)
Raptors over Pacers in 6 (Paul George will make this a series on his own)
Heat over Hornets in 6 (To much experience for the Hornets, may even wrap in 5)
Atlanta over Boston in 6 (Bostn will give the Hawks a run but Atlanta have the better pedigree)
Warriors over Rockets in 4 ( ???)
Spurs over Memphis in 4 ( ???)
OKC over Dallas in 4 ( ???)
Clippers over Portland in 6 (May go 7, Lillard and McCollum are a fantastic duo, they may surprise)
I'd like to see Paul George deliver this finals series! He certainly is good enough
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I'd like to see Paul George deliver this finals series! He certainly is good enough
if Indy could have just gotten to the 6th seed they could have possibly made the ECF
Pacers have already stole 1 :o
Quote from: RiOtChEsS on April 17, 2016, 09:54:07 AM
Pacers have already stole 1 :o
Raptors had no answer for George. Looking in serious trouble..
Quote from: Jay on April 17, 2016, 10:13:19 AM
Quote from: RiOtChEsS on April 17, 2016, 09:54:07 AM
Pacers have already stole 1 :o
Raptors had no answer for George. Looking in serious trouble..
If they lose the next game they could be cooked but i think Derozan and Lowry will be on in Game 2
Celtics been shooting bricks all half.
And there's the usual 3rd quarter run. Back down to 9. Let's go Celts
Avery Bradley strained right hamstring >:(
Ugh.
That was literally the first time I've watched Atlanta all year haha.
KD getting it done.
Good run by the C's, that Bradley injury is really gonna hurt them though...
Mavericks are Turrrrrrrrrible
Quote from: RiOtChEsS on April 17, 2016, 02:47:04 PM
Mavericks are Turrrrrrrrrible
Have a look at the list of players out through injury
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Mavericks are Turrrrrrrrrible
Have a look at the list of players out through injury
they had 11 in the first quarter :D
Pistons got closer than expected
Heat won by more than expected
Quote from: RiOtChEsS on April 18, 2016, 11:49:17 AM
Pistons got closer than expected
Heat won by more than expected
Spurs as advertised
Clips got away from Blazers in the 2nd half
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Quote from: RiOtChEsS on April 18, 2016, 11:49:17 AM
Pistons got closer than expected
Heat won by more than expected
Spurs as advertised
Clips got away from Blazers in the 2nd half
Fair summary. I thought the Pistons played really well and were right in it. SVG rolled with Baynes not Drummond down the stretch because of his FT shooting, which is fair enough but he's still your best player - I'd keep him out there as much as possible and live with the negatives. Cavs also unleashed Love at the 5 which Detroit could not guard at all.
I think the Hornets bounce back. And today just reassured me that the Blazers won't push LA.
Blazers are so streaky tho. They could easily snatch games if Lillard and CJ get hot.
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Quote from: RiOtChEsS on April 18, 2016, 11:49:17 AM
Pistons got closer than expected
Heat won by more than expected
Spurs as advertised
Clips got away from Blazers in the 2nd half
Fair summary. I thought the Pistons played really well and were right in it. SVG rolled with Baynes not Drummond down the stretch because of his FT shooting, which is fair enough but he's still your best player - I'd keep him out there as much as possible and live with the negatives. Cavs also unleashed Love at the 5 which Detroit could not guard at all.
I think the Hornets bounce back. And today just reassured me that the Blazers won't push LA.
SVG has been doing that for the last half of the season...
Hornets will play better but if we steal game 2...
McCollum had 9 points and Lillard wasnt at all himself, they will bounce back
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Quote from: RiOtChEsS on April 18, 2016, 04:26:06 PM
Quote from: RiOtChEsS on April 18, 2016, 11:49:17 AM
Pistons got closer than expected
Heat won by more than expected
Spurs as advertised
Clips got away from Blazers in the 2nd half
Fair summary. I thought the Pistons played really well and were right in it. SVG rolled with Baynes not Drummond down the stretch because of his FT shooting, which is fair enough but he's still your best player - I'd keep him out there as much as possible and live with the negatives. Cavs also unleashed Love at the 5 which Detroit could not guard at all.
I think the Hornets bounce back. And today just reassured me that the Blazers won't push LA.
SVG has been doing that for the last half of the season...
Hornets will play better but if we steal game 2...
McCollum had 9 points and Lillard wasnt at all himself, they will bounce back
I'll tell you this now, if the Pistons are rolling out Baynes at centre for large stretches, they ain't winning a game.
Kawhi back to back DPOY 8)
My pick has been Draymond each of the last two seasons but can't argue with Leonard.
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Quote from: RiOtChEsS on April 18, 2016, 11:49:17 AM
Pistons got closer than expected
Heat won by more than expected
Spurs as advertised
Clips got away from Blazers in the 2nd half
Fair summary. I thought the Pistons played really well and were right in it. SVG rolled with Baynes not Drummond down the stretch because of his FT shooting, which is fair enough but he's still your best player - I'd keep him out there as much as possible and live with the negatives. Cavs also unleashed Love at the 5 which Detroit could not guard at all.
I think the Hornets bounce back. And today just reassured me that the Blazers won't push LA.
SVG has been doing that for the last half of the season...
Hornets will play better but if we steal game 2...
McCollum had 9 points and Lillard wasnt at all himself, they will bounce back
I'll tell you this now, if the Pistons are rolling out Baynes at centre for large stretches, they ain't winning a game.
Brad Daugherty actually thinks the Heat can beat the Cavs ??? odd coming from a Cavs guy, whiteboard material?
Congrats Kawhi, well deserved
With Bosh the Heat would be a good shot!
Quote from: Jay on April 19, 2016, 12:33:10 AM
Kawhi back to back DPOY 8)
My pick has been Draymond each of the last two seasons but can't argue with Leonard.
The guy is a star probably have him the second best two way player in the game (ie. best player) after Lebron.
Reckon he might have overtaken Durrant due to his defence im not sure its close.
Mavs keeping it tight. Never underestimate the wizardry of Coach Carlisle, one of the few coaches that can make a team play greater than the sum of its parts
Along with president elect. Brad Stevens!
Toronto way too good for Pacers this time around. Indiana didn't get close at any stage in the match.
Raymond Felton outplaying Russell Westbrook... Yeah, didn't see this coming.
Raymond motherflowering Felton jesus christ
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Raymond motherflowering Felton jesus christ
They Mavs supporter here in the office just came past singing
RAY RAY, RAY RAY, RAAAAAAYMOND FELTON
I'm absolutely done with the 6th man of the year award. Why must it go to a high volume shooter every single year?
Crawford winning over Igoudala this season is just a joke. Iggy is the reigning finals MVP for a reason - he can guard any wing, handles the ball, and is a great catch and shoot player. He's also an integral part of one of the best 5-man lineups in NBA history.
Oh, but J-Craw scored more points and at an incredible 40% without being able to guard anyone. Congrats...
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I'm absolutely done with the 6th man of the year award. Why must it go to a high volume shooter every single year?
Crawford winning over Igoudala this season is just a joke. Iggy is the reigning finals MVP for a reason - he can guard any wing, handles the ball, and is a great catch and shoot player. He's also an integral part of one of the best 5-man lineups in NBA history.
Oh, but J-Craw scored more points and at an incredible 40% without being able to guard anyone. Congrats...
Where was Enes Kanter in the voting? Guy was posting regular double doubles off the bench, and offensive boards was crushing it, just horrible defense.
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Quote from: Jay on April 19, 2016, 11:38:58 PM
I'm absolutely done with the 6th man of the year award. Why must it go to a high volume shooter every single year?
Crawford winning over Igoudala this season is just a joke. Iggy is the reigning finals MVP for a reason - he can guard any wing, handles the ball, and is a great catch and shoot player. He's also an integral part of one of the best 5-man lineups in NBA history.
Oh, but J-Craw scored more points and at an incredible 40% without being able to guard anyone. Congrats...
Where was Enes Kanter in the voting? Guy was posting regular double doubles off the bench, and offensive boards was crushing it, just horrible defense.
Yes Kanter would have been more deserving than J-Craw also!
I also think SVG was pretty stiff to be fined 25k for pointing out something so spot on.
http://www.si.com/nba/2016/04/18/nba-playoffs-detroit-pistons-stan-van-gundy-lebron-james
Quote from: Jay on April 19, 2016, 11:38:58 PM
I'm absolutely done with the 6th man of the year award. Why must it go to a high volume shooter every single year?
Crawford winning over Igoudala this season is just a joke. Iggy is the reigning finals MVP for a reason - he can guard any wing, handles the ball, and is a great catch and shoot player. He's also an integral part of one of the best 5-man lineups in NBA history.
Oh, but J-Craw scored more points and at an incredible 40% without being able to guard anyone. Congrats...
Agreee with you except the horrible blasphemy in bold.
Man Atlanta's rotating D on driving Celtics players was epic today
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Man Atlanta's rotating D on driving Celtics players was epic today
Yeah we're really struggling to score. Bradley and Olynyk out really doesn't help that either, they are 2 of our 3 best offensive players. I think Olynyk will be ready to go for game 3, which is crucial.
Isaiah needs to get going if we want to hold home-court though - I like the adjustment Stevens made having Smart handle the ball and Isaiah playing off-ball.
I think our D outside of both first quarters has been really solid - just need to get off to a good start in Bawston. Series isn't over.
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Man Atlanta's rotating D on driving Celtics players was epic today
Yeah we're really struggling to score. Bradley and Olynyk out really doesn't help that either, they are 2 of our 3 best offensive players. I think Olynyk will be ready to go for game 3, which is crucial.
Isaiah needs to get going if we want to hold home-court though - I like the adjustment Stevens made having Smart handle the ball and Isaiah playing off-ball.
I think our D outside of both first quarters has been really solid - just need to get off to a good start in Bawston. Series isn't over.
Definitely not over, Game 3 is must win though
When teams struggle i hate it when they dont drive the ball to get fouled or take higher % shots, C's did that, Hawks just shut it down
Quote from: Jay on April 19, 2016, 11:38:58 PM
I'm absolutely done with the 6th man of the year award. Why must it go to a high volume shooter every single year?
Crawford winning over Igoudala this season is just a joke. Iggy is the reigning finals MVP for a reason - he can guard any wing, handles the ball, and is a great catch and shoot player. He's also an integral part of one of the best 5-man lineups in NBA history.
Oh, but J-Craw scored more points and at an incredible 40% without being able to guard anyone. Congrats...
Surprised Shaun Livingston doesn't get more of a look in too. Dude is soooo underrated.
http://espn.go.com/nba/story/_/id/15280048/minnesota-timberwolves-negotiate-tom-thibodeau-coach-scott-layden-gm
This could be huge for the Wolves, they will reach a fierce level under Thibs
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http://espn.go.com/nba/story/_/id/15280048/minnesota-timberwolves-negotiate-tom-thibodeau-coach-scott-layden-gm
This could be huge for the Wolves, they will reach a fierce level under Thibs
Good luck to the rest of the league.
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Quote from: RiOtChEsS on April 21, 2016, 09:38:05 AM
http://espn.go.com/nba/story/_/id/15280048/minnesota-timberwolves-negotiate-tom-thibodeau-coach-scott-layden-gm
This could be huge for the Wolves, they will reach a fierce level under Thibs
Good luck to the rest of the league.
Dynasty
Bring Jimmy Butler over :P
or just draft ben simmons.
Cavs to blow the Pistons outta the building in Game 2...
I'm continually astounded how LeBron makes his own calls, he ran into Drummond and stopped like he was gonna fall down 3 seconds later the baseline ref calls the foul on Drummond based on LeBron's actions, Drummond laughs and looks to SVG who is also laughing... is there a specific understanding between refs that come from the league about LeBron?
Pistons look on, particularly Drummond (10ft hook) and Jackson (jump shooting)
Miami all over Charlotte again
some numbers I dont like seeing
Lebron James - 1 assits (needs to be the point guard)
Love Mozgof and Shumpert Combining for 2/11 Fg
JR Keeping us afloat but Irving and James need more help.
Quote from: RiOtChEsS on April 21, 2016, 11:17:09 AM
I'm continually astounded how LeBron makes his own calls, he ran into Drummond and stopped like he was gonna fall down 3 seconds later the baseline ref calls the foul on Drummond based on LeBron's actions, Drummond laughs and looks to SVG who is also laughing... is there a specific understanding between refs that come from the league about LeBron?
It's truly remarkable. I know stars get the calls, especially in the playoffs but to the extent that LBJ does I can't remember seeing before.
Quote from: Jay on April 21, 2016, 01:11:49 PM
Quote from: RiOtChEsS on April 21, 2016, 11:17:09 AM
I'm continually astounded how LeBron makes his own calls, he ran into Drummond and stopped like he was gonna fall down 3 seconds later the baseline ref calls the foul on Drummond based on LeBron's actions, Drummond laughs and looks to SVG who is also laughing... is there a specific understanding between refs that come from the league about LeBron?
It's truly remarkable. I know stars get the calls, especially in the playoffs but to the extent that LBJ does I can't remember seeing before.
how about illegal screens not getting called
cough *GSW* cough
Quote from: Jay on April 21, 2016, 01:11:49 PM
Quote from: RiOtChEsS on April 21, 2016, 11:17:09 AM
I'm continually astounded how LeBron makes his own calls, he ran into Drummond and stopped like he was gonna fall down 3 seconds later the baseline ref calls the foul on Drummond based on LeBron's actions, Drummond laughs and looks to SVG who is also laughing... is there a specific understanding between refs that come from the league about LeBron?
It's truly remarkable. I know stars get the calls, especially in the playoffs but to the extent that LBJ does I can't remember seeing before.
Its not on youtube so im recording the game, will record off the tv an upload it to youtube to show just how bad it looks...
If anyone has the chance to watch the replay it happens early in the first quarter
Batum out for the rest of the first round.
Charlotte in 6 looking pretty bad now :-X
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Quote from: RiOtChEsS on April 21, 2016, 11:17:09 AM
I'm continually astounded how LeBron makes his own calls, he ran into Drummond and stopped like he was gonna fall down 3 seconds later the baseline ref calls the foul on Drummond based on LeBron's actions, Drummond laughs and looks to SVG who is also laughing... is there a specific understanding between refs that come from the league about LeBron?
It's truly remarkable. I know stars get the calls, especially in the playoffs but to the extent that LBJ does I can't remember seeing before.
Its not on youtube so im recording the game, will record off the tv an upload it to youtube to show just how bad it looks...
If anyone has the chance to watch the replay it happens early in the first quarter
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nA7j26f8CH8
ok so it wasnt 3 seconds that was an exaggeration, he clearly milks it though (check out Drummond and SVG reaction
Scott Brooks to the Wiz 5yr deal, does this entice Durant...
I'm not even sure that D12 > Ezeli at this point.. Dude's a shell of himself, on both ends.
Quote from: Jay on April 22, 2016, 01:07:13 PM
I'm not even sure that D12 > Ezeli at this point.. Dude's a shell of himself, on both ends.
I have NEVER seen D12 as a good player. The only move he has is "pick and roll" and he cant even do that these days.
OVER-RATED
Golden State getting touched up
Quote from: elephants on April 22, 2016, 01:47:35 PM
Golden State getting touched up
Only down by 7 at the half, got on a good run late. Speights been huge!
Warriors go on a 12-2 run as soon as i wager Houston -6pts ::)
Quote from: RiOtChEsS on April 22, 2016, 01:57:47 PM
Warriors go on a 12-2 run as soon as i wager Houston -6pts ::)
I'm on Golden State -4.5... I'd still rather be you atm haha
Warriors gone cold again, you're home mate
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Warriors gone cold again, you're home mate
ahhh mate i think we are both cooked :'(
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Warriors gone cold again, you're home mate
ahhh mate i think we are both cooked :'(
Think you're right mate! What are the chances! :(
Harrrrrrrdouken
Well there goes the 16-0 which some people were talking about.
Pretty intense finish to the game even if the bet was done.
If Livingston made that shot to put the Warriors up my 3 I would've been right in
Quote from: elephants on April 22, 2016, 03:47:21 PM
Pretty intense finish to the game even if the bet was done.
If Livingston made that shot to put the Warriors up my 3 I would've been right in
Thanks to Rockets my multi still looking good. However George forgot how to shoot
Quote from: R.Griffen on April 22, 2016, 05:11:49 PM
Quote from: elephants on April 22, 2016, 03:47:21 PM
Pretty intense finish to the game even if the bet was done.
If Livingston made that shot to put the Warriors up my 3 I would've been right in
Thanks to Rockets my multi still looking good. However George forgot how to shoot
Whats ya multi?
I'm finding in general the total score lines for most games are set way too high through the play-offs so far. Not ballsy enough to cash in though, scared I'll get a game that goes to OT and I lose cause of that haha
Quote from: Holz on April 22, 2016, 03:34:46 PM
Well there goes the 16-0 which some people were talking about.
surely that prediction came prior to Curry getting injured?
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Quote from: R.Griffen on April 22, 2016, 05:11:49 PM
Quote from: elephants on April 22, 2016, 03:47:21 PM
Pretty intense finish to the game even if the bet was done.
If Livingston made that shot to put the Warriors up my 3 I would've been right in
Thanks to Rockets my multi still looking good. However George forgot how to shoot
Whats ya multi?
I'm finding in general the total score lines for most games are set way too high through the play-offs so far. Not ballsy enough to cash in though, scared I'll get a game that goes to OT and I lose cause of that haha
Golden State 4-1
OKC 4-1
Cavs 4-0
Raptors 4-3
SWEDISH LARRY BIRD
Good to see Pacers Vs Raptors is a series #2-2
http://espn.go.com/nba/story/_/id/15305873/2016-nba-playoffs-league-says-james-harden-game-winner-houston-rockets-not-counted
The NBA came down harshly Friday in its review of the officials' crunch-time calls -- or lack thereof -- in the Houston Rockets' 97-96, Game 3 win over the Golden State Warriors, saying James Harden's game-winning shot should not have counted.
It was among five incorrect calls in the final two minutes, the NBA said in its assessment of officials' late-game performance dubbed the "Last Two Minute Report."
On the replay from Thursday night's game, it appeared Harden pushed off Golden State's Andre Iguodala before converting a 10-foot, step-back jumper with 2.7 seconds to play. The league said Harden initiated contact with Iguodala before hitting the basket.
what a crock of shower, the most iconic pull up jumper in the history of the NBA was the biggest push off you will ever see ::)
Heat look cooked in game 3 :(
Marcus Smart fined 5k for flopping. If you haven't seen it, please look it up :P
And IT avoids suspension for his hit on German Rondo. Bring on game 4 :)
Quote from: Jay on April 24, 2016, 10:37:07 AM
Marcus Smart fined 5k for flopping. If you haven't seen it, please look it up :P
Haha that's hilarious ;D
Durant is brick city atm ???
Has Kanter been the best player in the playoffs so far?
Quote from: R.Griffen on April 24, 2016, 01:41:30 PM
Has Kanter been the best player in the playoffs so far?
I'd say Whiteside, CP3 and Leonard have been better but Kanter certainly has been impressive.
Atlanta have Paul Millsap. Boston do not have Paul Millsap.
That's the difference so far tonight.
Curry has hurt his knee, MRI soon, it's starting to stack up #badmojo :-\
Tyronn Lue says LeBron does NOT get calls ;D
Evan Turner might single handedly cost the Celts this game
Jeff Teague with the clutchness...
Quote from: RiOtChEsS on April 25, 2016, 11:30:07 AM
Jeff Teague with the clutchness...
haha scratch that ;D his last play was gawd awful
Smart smothered Korver chasing him around screens in the first 3 quarters. Then in the fourth + OT so far, he's stopped Millsap. Fantastic versatility on D.
Strange call at the end, but guess all they wanted was to run clock.
I might have to buy myself a Marcus Smart jersey after this series... Which PG's can guard 6'8 guys like that!
Thomas is big time
THIS SERIES IS GOING BACK TO BOSTON
Quote from: plumdog millionaire on April 25, 2016, 07:46:28 PM
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Quote from: plumdog millionaire on April 25, 2016, 11:51:13 AM
THIS SERIES IS GOING BACK TO BOSTON
;D
Cleveland are stoked n gettin their popcorn
Why did you have to remind me :( Just want my team to win a playoff series
The rest sounds like a big deal, with older star players it carries some weight, but you guys are a young team so i dont think its a biggie
Steph out at least two weeks... Crushing :'(
Tim Duncan turns 40 today. So much respect to him, best at his position in history in my opinion.
Quote from: plumdog millionaire on April 26, 2016, 09:50:00 AM
Steph out at least two weeks... Crushing :'(
Man this sucks. Warriors dont beat the Clippers w/out Steph.
Quote from: Jay on April 26, 2016, 10:11:00 AM
Quote from: plumdog millionaire on April 26, 2016, 09:50:00 AM
Steph out at least two weeks... Crushing :'(
Man this sucks. Warriors dont beat the Clippers w/out Steph.
why not one of the greatest teams ever, They beat everyone without Point Guards and were legit champions so they should still win the chip without curry right.
for the record, jokes aside ill tip the warriors to take out the clippers.
probably a harsh call but perhaps they pushed too hard in the regular season rather then actually preparing for the playoffs like the spurs did.
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Quote from: plumdog millionaire on April 26, 2016, 09:50:00 AM
Steph out at least two weeks... Crushing :'(
Man this sucks. Warriors dont beat the Clippers w/out Steph.
why not one of the greatest teams ever, They beat everyone without Point Guards and were legit champions so they should still win the chip without curry right.
for the record, jokes aside ill tip the warriors to take out the clippers.
probably a harsh call but perhaps they pushed too hard in the regular season rather then actually preparing for the playoffs like the spurs did.
Holz coming in for that low hanging fruit
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Quote from: Holz on April 26, 2016, 10:29:21 AM
Quote from: Jay on April 26, 2016, 10:11:00 AM
Quote from: plumdog millionaire on April 26, 2016, 09:50:00 AM
Steph out at least two weeks... Crushing :'(
Man this sucks. Warriors dont beat the Clippers w/out Steph.
why not one of the greatest teams ever, They beat everyone without Point Guards and were legit champions so they should still win the chip without curry right.
for the record, jokes aside ill tip the warriors to take out the clippers.
probably a harsh call but perhaps they pushed too hard in the regular season rather then actually preparing for the playoffs like the spurs did.
Holz coming in for that low hanging fruit
I kept saying i would wait till the playoffs with the warriors going soo hard for regular season glory.
Just wait if the clippers win.
the warriors should have enough to go in favorites.
Klay is no joke.
Portland helping the warriros soo much, every game they win shortens the amount of time that steph is out for.
CP3 broken hand.
Warriors now in the conference finals
Quote from: Jay on April 26, 2016, 04:38:56 PM
CP3 broken hand.
Warriors now in the conference finals
could portland be a problem? I reckon they are a decent chance of making it to the warriors now.
my worst fear is warriors beat clippers/portland without curry then he comes back they win and people go even with a injured curry they won they are now the best team ever.
Quote from: Jay on April 26, 2016, 04:38:56 PM
CP3 broken hand.
Warriors now in the conference finals
Apparently he's done for the playoffs... NBA fans are getting robbed of CP3 vs Steph :'(
Quote from: Holz on April 26, 2016, 04:54:25 PM
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CP3 broken hand.
Warriors now in the conference finals
could portland be a problem? I reckon they are a decent chance of making it to the warriors now.
my worst fear is warriors beat clippers/portland without curry then he comes back they win and people go even with a injured curry they won they are now the best team ever.
I'm more worried of every team they face being riddled with injuries and them winning the title again, and now being able to use we had an injured player too!
Spurs vs thunder. This should be a very good series. Hopefully KD and co can get us the win
Quote from: Holz on April 26, 2016, 04:54:25 PM
Quote from: Jay on April 26, 2016, 04:38:56 PM
CP3 broken hand.
Warriors now in the conference finals
could portland be a problem? I reckon they are a decent chance of making it to the warriors now.
my worst fear is warriors beat clippers/portland without curry then he comes back they win and people go even with a injured curry they won they are now the best team ever.
I think Portland can certainly beat the Clippers now. I'd question whether anyone apart from Curry is as crucial to their team as CP3 is to the Clippers. This sucks, really wanted to see CP3 and Steph battle it out.
But fully healthy Portland still don't beat a a Warriors with injured Curry.
Quote from: Cookie311993 on April 26, 2016, 06:04:18 PM
Spurs vs thunder. This should be a very good series. Hopefully KD and co can get us the win
KD and co? You mean KD, Russ and the only two other mildly competent basketballers on the team?
Spurs bout to teach ya'll a lesson.
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Quote from: Cookie311993 on April 26, 2016, 06:04:18 PM
Spurs vs thunder. This should be a very good series. Hopefully KD and co can get us the win
KD and co? You mean KD, Russ and the only two other mildly competent basketballers on the team?
Spurs bout to teach ya'll a lesson.
Spurs will wipe the floor with OKC..
OKC are a trash organisation. How you can not be a legitimate title threat with two top 5 players is beyond me.
Blake Griffin si done for the rest of the playoffs also
PG turning it on in Toronto!
Quote from: RiOtChEsS on April 27, 2016, 09:52:42 AM
Blake Griffin si done for the rest of the playoffs also
far out how much luck can the clippers get, cakewalk into the conference finals without steph.
WTF Indy!
My gosh Toronto!
@Jay did Sullinger take on Big Baby's diet? wtf :o
Quote from: RiOtChEsS on April 27, 2016, 01:07:59 PM
@Jay did Sullinger take on Big Baby's diet? wtf :o
(http://www.boston.com/sports/basketball/celtics/extras/celtics_blog/sullingerfocus.jpg)(http://cdn.fansided.com/wp-content/blogs.dir/18/files/2015/12/tim-duncan-jared-sullinger-nba-san-antonio-spurs-boston-celtics12.jpg)
move over Big E Langston there's a new booty in town
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Pretty intense finish to the game even if the bet was done.
If Livingston made that shot to put the Warriors up my 3 I would've been right in
Thanks to Rockets my multi still looking good. However George forgot how to shoot
Whats ya multi?
I'm finding in general the total score lines for most games are set way too high through the play-offs so far. Not ballsy enough to cash in though, scared I'll get a game that goes to OT and I lose cause of that haha
Golden State 4-1
OKC 4-1
Cavs 4-0
Raptors 4-3
looking good so far
Quote from: RiOtChEsS on April 27, 2016, 01:07:59 PM
@Jay did Sullinger take on Big Baby's diet? wtf :o
Hahah yeah he's huge. And playing like a potato this series.
Theres a few Celtics fans around here, would like to hear thoughts on a few rumours going on with the Celts targeting Blake Griffin and Durant this off-season. Who would the Celt's give up to get Griffin?
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Quote from: RiOtChEsS on April 27, 2016, 01:07:59 PM
@Jay did Sullinger take on Big Baby's diet? wtf :o
Hahah yeah he's huge. And playing like a potato this series.
he looks so uncomfortable trying to get up and down the floor
Quote from: jvalles69 on April 27, 2016, 06:13:39 PM
Theres a few Celtics fans around here, would like to hear thoughts on a few rumours going on with the Celts targeting Blake Griffin and Durant this off-season. Who would the Celt's give up to get Griffin?
Griffin's value has probably bottomed out at the moment, but I think a fair offer is Brooklyn pick + AB+ filler for Griffin. I was thinking a deal like this at around trade deadline time too so nothing really has changed since then.
Jae Crowder is absolutely off limits, even if you offered me a straight swap Jae for Griff I'd say no as a celts fan. Smart and Isaiah the other untouchables in a Blake deal.
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Quote from: jvalles69 on April 27, 2016, 06:13:39 PM
Theres a few Celtics fans around here, would like to hear thoughts on a few rumours going on with the Celts targeting Blake Griffin and Durant this off-season. Who would the Celt's give up to get Griffin?
Griffin's value has probably bottomed out at the moment, but I think a fair offer is Brooklyn pick + AB+ filler for Griffin. I was thinking a deal like this at around trade deadline time too so nothing really has changed since then.
Jae Crowder is absolutely off limits, even if you offered me a straight swap Jae for Griff I'd say no as a celts fan. Smart and Isaiah the other untouchables in a Blake deal.
Even though Griffin's value seems low, it really isnt, i cant see the Celtics landing him without giving up a top 3 player plus picks
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Quote from: plumdog millionaire on April 28, 2016, 09:14:39 AM
Quote from: jvalles69 on April 27, 2016, 06:13:39 PM
Theres a few Celtics fans around here, would like to hear thoughts on a few rumours going on with the Celts targeting Blake Griffin and Durant this off-season. Who would the Celt's give up to get Griffin?
Griffin's value has probably bottomed out at the moment, but I think a fair offer is Brooklyn pick + AB+ filler for Griffin. I was thinking a deal like this at around trade deadline time too so nothing really has changed since then.
Jae Crowder is absolutely off limits, even if you offered me a straight swap Jae for Griff I'd say no as a celts fan. Smart and Isaiah the other untouchables in a Blake deal.
Even though Griffin's value seems low, it really isnt, i cant see the Celtics landing him without giving up a top 3 player plus picks
It's not absolutely low but the lowest it's been. He's pretty clearly not a top 10 player right now, but yeah if I was the Clippers I'd still treat him like a top 10 player obviously
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Quote from: RiOtChEsS on April 28, 2016, 11:07:08 AM
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Quote from: jvalles69 on April 27, 2016, 06:13:39 PM
Theres a few Celtics fans around here, would like to hear thoughts on a few rumours going on with the Celts targeting Blake Griffin and Durant this off-season. Who would the Celt's give up to get Griffin?
Griffin's value has probably bottomed out at the moment, but I think a fair offer is Brooklyn pick + AB+ filler for Griffin. I was thinking a deal like this at around trade deadline time too so nothing really has changed since then.
Jae Crowder is absolutely off limits, even if you offered me a straight swap Jae for Griff I'd say no as a celts fan. Smart and Isaiah the other untouchables in a Blake deal.
Even though Griffin's value seems low, it really isnt, i cant see the Celtics landing him without giving up a top 3 player plus picks
It's not absolutely low but the lowest it's been. He's pretty clearly not a top 10 player right now, but yeah if I was the Clippers I'd still treat him like a top 10 player obviously
I agree to be honest, I don't think they have enough to offer Clippers, he's had a down season but is a double double machine and can put bums on seats. I still think he's played his last game for the Clips, not sure where he'll end up though.
Disagree with Plum, I'd trade Crowder for Blake. Most likely scenario would be the Brooklyn pick this year + a player. Just can't see Doc wanting to rebuild though.
Few thoughts on the BOS/ATL series.. The Hawks have a much greater margin for error than Boston. If they play well, we can't beat them. If they play below their best and we play well, then we can get it to a 50/50 game down the stretch. It's a similar position to every team vs the Warriors. E.g. yesterday we had a 6 minute stretch where Atlanta was just missing everything, and we built a 10 point lead. Atlanta had a hot strech and they built a 20 point lead.
I'd banish Sullinger from this series and just go small around Jerebko and/or Amir more. But, none of this matters if Isaiah has a 0 point first half like last game.
COURTNEY LEE! BALL DONT LIE!
Charlotte and Miami trading blows.
Quote from: Jay on April 28, 2016, 01:20:19 PM
But, none of this matters if Isaiah has a 0 point first half like last game.
Didn't he do something similar when you beat the Warriors? ;)
Quote from: Jay on April 28, 2016, 01:29:44 PM
COURTNEY LEE! BALL DONT LIE!
Charlotte and Miami trading blows.
Charlotte to wrap it up now in game 6? Would be a disappointing end for Miami, and it'd totally ruin my multi haha.
Harden with 18 of Houston's 22 ::)
Not ruling us out, losing Game 5 on your home deck to Charlotte though :-[ i wanna puke
Blazers and Hornets come back from 0-2 down.. Something something teams that are up 2-0 win 93% of the time
Rumor going around that Jimmy Butler could be on his way out of Chicago in a trade in a look to rebuild. Philly and Celtics are being talked about as possible targets. The others include the Lakers and Wolves. Philly have two potential offers, one involving Noel and one involving Jah.
http://en.yibada.com/articles/119604/20160427/nba-trade-rumors-jimmy-butler-philadelphia-76ers-offer-best-rebuilding.htm
Quote from: Mat0369 on April 29, 2016, 01:47:41 AM
Rumor going around that Jimmy Butler could be on his way out of Chicago in a trade in a look to rebuild. Philly and Celtics are being talked about as possible targets. The others include the Lakers and Wolves. Philly have two potential offers, one involving Noel and one involving Jah.
http://en.yibada.com/articles/119604/20160427/nba-trade-rumors-jimmy-butler-philadelphia-76ers-offer-best-rebuilding.htm
why would they move Butler ??? he is the only player to keep on that team
3rd quarter of a playoff game 6. Isiah Thomas. Bad ankle.
This sounds all too familiar (http://www.nba.com/history/isiahheroic_moments.html) ;) the stage is set for you, IT. Lets goooo
Can't watch much more of this. Just chucking up bricks.
Gotta give up the betting, had Millsap over 17.5 pts, had 17, had Hawks -12.5 and after then being up by 26 win by 12 ::) #fmb
Bring on the lottery :(
Quote from: Jay on April 29, 2016, 02:06:19 PM
Bring on the lottery :(
Unlucky end to the season Jay - Bradley missing was huge.
At least you've got that really good lottery pick to look forward to.
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Quote from: Jay on April 29, 2016, 02:06:19 PM
Bring on the lottery :(
Unlucky end to the season Jay - Bradley missing was huge.
At least you've got that really good lottery pick to look forward to.
Ben Simmons will make all the pain go away ;D
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Quote from: Jay on April 29, 2016, 02:06:19 PM
Bring on the lottery :(
Unlucky end to the season Jay - Bradley missing was huge.
At least you've got that really good lottery pick to look forward to.
Ben Simmons will make all the pain go away ;D
Would have to be a solid chance with that PP/KG pick
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Quote from: Jay on April 29, 2016, 02:06:19 PM
Bring on the lottery :(
Unlucky end to the season Jay - Bradley missing was huge.
At least you've got that really good lottery pick to look forward to.
Ben Simmons will make all the pain go away ;D
Would have to be a solid chance with that PP/KG pick
31.3% chance at top 2 :o
But more exciting, Lakers have a 45% chance of losing their pick :P
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Quote from: Jay on April 29, 2016, 02:06:19 PM
Bring on the lottery :(
Unlucky end to the season Jay - Bradley missing was huge.
At least you've got that really good lottery pick to look forward to.
Ben Simmons will make all the pain go away ;D
Would have to be a solid chance with that PP/KG pick
31.3% chance at top 2 :o
But more exciting, Lakers have a 45% chance of losing their pick :P
oh the butthurt if that happens ;D
Simmons still guaranteed to go number one?
No chance the NBA lets the Lakes lose their pick :-X
Quote from: RiOtChEsS on April 29, 2016, 10:25:54 AM
why would they move Butler ??? he is the only player to keep on that team
My thoughts as well, unfortunately he is also the only Bull that can attract a kings ransom in value. The coach apparently wants to keep Noah which sounds ridiculous. Pau is old and gone, Rose is cooked and has no trade value. If they can get Jah, Covington and a couple of first (Heat and 2019 unprotected) for him it is a good starting point.
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Quote from: RiOtChEsS on April 29, 2016, 10:25:54 AM
why would they move Butler ??? he is the only player to keep on that team
My thoughts as well, unfortunately he is also the only Bull that can attract a kings ransom in value. The coach apparently wants to keep Noah which sounds ridiculous. Pau is old and gone, Rose is cooked and has no trade value. If they can get Jah, Covington and a couple of first (Heat and 2019 unprotected) for him it is a good starting point.
If Philly get Butler that would be amazing
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Quote from: Mat0369 on April 29, 2016, 11:10:46 PM
Quote from: RiOtChEsS on April 29, 2016, 10:25:54 AM
why would they move Butler ??? he is the only player to keep on that team
My thoughts as well, unfortunately he is also the only Bull that can attract a kings ransom in value. The coach apparently wants to keep Noah which sounds ridiculous. Pau is old and gone, Rose is cooked and has no trade value. If they can get Jah, Covington and a couple of first (Heat and 2019 unprotected) for him it is a good starting point.
If Philly get Butler that would be amazing
Simmons butler okafor embiid
Pacers on a run. Looking like a game 7.
Quote from: Jay on April 30, 2016, 12:40:07 PM
Pacers on a run. Looking like a game 7.
think i sort of predicted this :D
WOW Luke Walton hired as Lakers coach
ESPN â€@espn 2m2 minutes ago
BREAKING: The @Lakers have hired Luke Walton as their next head coach. He went 39-4 as Warriors interim coach.
Quote from: plumdog millionaire on April 30, 2016, 01:17:04 PM
WOW Luke Walton hired as Lakers coach
ESPN â€@espn 2m2 minutes ago
BREAKING: The @Lakers have hired Luke Walton as their next head coach. He went 39-4 as Warriors interim coach.
Ugh.
Quote from: Jay on April 30, 2016, 02:22:53 PM
Quote from: plumdog millionaire on April 30, 2016, 01:17:04 PM
WOW Luke Walton hired as Lakers coach
ESPN â€@espn 2m2 minutes ago
BREAKING: The @Lakers have hired Luke Walton as their next head coach. He went 39-4 as Warriors interim coach.
Ugh.
They can't get any worse... :D
About frickin time we showed up, now close this shower out plz
Austin Rivers looks like he is starring in a Rocky movie :o 11 stitches in all
Quote from: Jay on April 30, 2016, 02:22:53 PM
Quote from: plumdog millionaire on April 30, 2016, 01:17:04 PM
WOW Luke Walton hired as Lakers coach
ESPN â€@espn 2m2 minutes ago
BREAKING: The @Lakers have hired Luke Walton as their next head coach. He went 39-4 as Warriors interim coach.
Ugh.
?
Quote from: plumdog millionaire on April 30, 2016, 02:43:39 PM
Quote from: Jay on April 30, 2016, 02:22:53 PM
Quote from: plumdog millionaire on April 30, 2016, 01:17:04 PM
WOW Luke Walton hired as Lakers coach
ESPN â€@espn 2m2 minutes ago
BREAKING: The @Lakers have hired Luke Walton as their next head coach. He went 39-4 as Warriors interim coach.
Ugh.
?
Wanted the Lakers to do something stupid. They didn't :P
Quote from: Jay on April 30, 2016, 02:51:12 PM
Quote from: plumdog millionaire on April 30, 2016, 02:43:39 PM
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Quote from: plumdog millionaire on April 30, 2016, 01:17:04 PM
WOW Luke Walton hired as Lakers coach
ESPN â€@espn 2m2 minutes ago
BREAKING: The @Lakers have hired Luke Walton as their next head coach. He went 39-4 as Warriors interim coach.
Ugh.
?
Wanted the Lakers to do something stupid. They didn't :P
And here I was thinking you wanted the best for all teams...
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Quote from: plumdog millionaire on April 30, 2016, 01:17:04 PM
WOW Luke Walton hired as Lakers coach
ESPN â€@espn 2m2 minutes ago
BREAKING: The @Lakers have hired Luke Walton as their next head coach. He went 39-4 as Warriors interim coach.
Ugh.
?
Wanted the Lakers to do something stupid. They didn't :P
And here I was thinking you wanted the best for all teams...
*most teams :P
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Quote from: Jay on April 30, 2016, 02:22:53 PM
Quote from: plumdog millionaire on April 30, 2016, 01:17:04 PM
WOW Luke Walton hired as Lakers coach
ESPN â€@espn 2m2 minutes ago
BREAKING: The @Lakers have hired Luke Walton as their next head coach. He went 39-4 as Warriors interim coach.
Ugh.
They can't get any worse... :D
About frickin time we showed up, now close this shower out plz
Geez just watched the last 5mins. D-Wade took the flower over this game :o
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Quote from: plumdog millionaire on April 30, 2016, 01:17:04 PM
WOW Luke Walton hired as Lakers coach
ESPN â€@espn 2m2 minutes ago
BREAKING: The @Lakers have hired Luke Walton as their next head coach. He went 39-4 as Warriors interim coach.
Ugh.
They can't get any worse... :D
About frickin time we showed up, now close this shower out plz
Geez just watched the last 5mins. D-Wade took the flower over this game :o
Batman :D
Didn't want The Truth to go out like this but seems like he's about done :(
Quote from: Jay on April 30, 2016, 10:13:28 PM
Didn't want The Truth to go out like this but seems like he's about done :(
top career, Hall of Famer
Rekn the Spurs could actually sweep the Thunder
Pop is smart enough to know how to tighten the screws on that one dimensional offense and i dont think OKC can adjust...
Feels strange that the second round starts before the first finishes
Kawhi MF'N Leonard :o
Spurs on fire!
If the series goes like this, I highly doubt we'll see Durant at OKC next year and Westbrook the year after! :o
Quote from: RiOtChEsS on May 01, 2016, 11:33:21 AM
Kawhi MF'N Leonard :o
https://vine.co/v/iPE36HHBTLg
First play of the game, get out the way im takin this to the rack
Turns out only having 2 good players and a bad coach vs a whole team of great players and the best ever coach doesn't work too well.
Quote from: Jay on May 01, 2016, 01:38:14 PM
Turns out only having 2 good players and a bad coach vs a whole team of great players and the best ever coach doesn't work too well.
WHO WOULDA THUNKIT
Quote from: plumdog millionaire on May 01, 2016, 01:52:25 PM
Quote from: Jay on May 01, 2016, 01:38:14 PM
Turns out only having 2 good players and a bad coach vs a whole team of great players and the best ever coach doesn't work too well.
WHO WOULDA THUNKIT
Quote from: RiOtChEsS on May 01, 2016, 10:05:24 AM
Rekn the Spurs could actually sweep the Thunder
Pop is smart enough to know how to tighten the screws on that one dimensional offense and i dont think OKC can adjust...
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Spurs vs thunder. This should be a very good series. Hopefully KD and co can get us the win
KD and co? You mean KD, Russ and the only two other mildly competent basketballers on the team?
Spurs bout to teach ya'll a lesson.
Quote from: Jay on May 01, 2016, 01:38:14 PM
Turns out only having 2 good players and a bad coach vs a whole team of great players and the best ever coach doesn't work too well.
not sure that fair on Kanter and Ibaka but yeah the chemistry not there.
paid KD with a paul type and westbrook with say leonard!!!
Quote from: Holz on May 01, 2016, 07:52:46 PM
Quote from: Jay on May 01, 2016, 01:38:14 PM
Turns out only having 2 good players and a bad coach vs a whole team of great players and the best ever coach doesn't work too well.
not sure that fair on Kanter and Ibaka but yeah the chemistry not there.
paid KD with a paul type and westbrook with say leonard!!!
OKC vs CLE would be an interesting series...
If you love teams isolating and playing one on one streetball
Free flowing basketball will polarize true team ball in this series
Quote from: Holz on May 01, 2016, 07:52:46 PM
Quote from: Jay on May 01, 2016, 01:38:14 PM
Turns out only having 2 good players and a bad coach vs a whole team of great players and the best ever coach doesn't work too well.
not sure that fair on Kanter and Ibaka but yeah the chemistry not there.
paid KD with a paul type and westbrook with say leonard!!!
Chemistry? Chemistry isn't the issue - 80% of their roster is the issue.
KD should leave that mess.
Quote from: My Chumps on May 01, 2016, 08:52:35 PM
Quote from: Holz on May 01, 2016, 07:52:46 PM
Quote from: Jay on May 01, 2016, 01:38:14 PM
Turns out only having 2 good players and a bad coach vs a whole team of great players and the best ever coach doesn't work too well.
not sure that fair on Kanter and Ibaka but yeah the chemistry not there.
paid KD with a paul type and westbrook with say leonard!!!
Chemistry? Chemistry isn't the issue - 80% of their roster is the issue.
KD should leave that mess.
This is what happens when you command big money and dont
"lead"
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Quote from: Jay on May 01, 2016, 01:38:14 PM
Turns out only having 2 good players and a bad coach vs a whole team of great players and the best ever coach doesn't work too well.
not sure that fair on Kanter and Ibaka but yeah the chemistry not there.
paid KD with a paul type and westbrook with say leonard!!!
Chemistry? Chemistry isn't the issue - 80% of their roster is the issue.
KD should leave that mess.
This is what happens when you command big money and dont "lead"
I see your point but it's more of the organisations fault IMO. They've had five years with KD/Russ at the helm but haven't put the pieces around them.
Roberson starts ffs. It's atrocious.
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Quote from: Jay on May 01, 2016, 01:38:14 PM
Turns out only having 2 good players and a bad coach vs a whole team of great players and the best ever coach doesn't work too well.
not sure that fair on Kanter and Ibaka but yeah the chemistry not there.
paid KD with a paul type and westbrook with say leonard!!!
Chemistry? Chemistry isn't the issue - 80% of their roster is the issue.
KD should leave that mess.
This is what happens when you command big money and dont "lead"
I see your point but it's more of the organisations fault IMO. They've had five years with KD/Russ at the helm but haven't put the pieces around them.
Roberson starts ffs. It's atrocious.
My point is KD mentality is i do this
Westbrook's mentality is i do this
SOMEBODY had to work out how it could coexist beautifully rather than we have KD an RW... that's what their offense looks like
Something about trading James Harden :P
Quote from: Jay on May 01, 2016, 10:36:01 PM
Something about trading James Harden :P
past tense?
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Quote from: Jay on May 01, 2016, 01:38:14 PM
Turns out only having 2 good players and a bad coach vs a whole team of great players and the best ever coach doesn't work too well.
not sure that fair on Kanter and Ibaka but yeah the chemistry not there.
paid KD with a paul type and westbrook with say leonard!!!
Chemistry? Chemistry isn't the issue - 80% of their roster is the issue.
KD should leave that mess.
This is what happens when you command big money and dont "lead"
I see your point but it's more of the organisations fault IMO. They've had five years with KD/Russ at the helm but haven't put the pieces around them.
Roberson starts ffs. It's atrocious.
My point is KD mentality is i do this
Westbrook's mentality is i do this
SOMEBODY had to work out how it could coexist beautifully rather than we have KD an RW... that's what their offense looks like
Fair point.
Is that partly poor coaching too? Waaaaay too much iso ball?
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Quote from: My Chumps on May 01, 2016, 08:52:35 PM
Quote from: Holz on May 01, 2016, 07:52:46 PM
Quote from: Jay on May 01, 2016, 01:38:14 PM
Turns out only having 2 good players and a bad coach vs a whole team of great players and the best ever coach doesn't work too well.
not sure that fair on Kanter and Ibaka but yeah the chemistry not there.
paid KD with a paul type and westbrook with say leonard!!!
Chemistry? Chemistry isn't the issue - 80% of their roster is the issue.
KD should leave that mess.
This is what happens when you command big money and dont "lead"
I see your point but it's more of the organisations fault IMO. They've had five years with KD/Russ at the helm but haven't put the pieces around them.
Roberson starts ffs. It's atrocious.
My point is KD mentality is i do this
Westbrook's mentality is i do this
SOMEBODY had to work out how it could coexist beautifully rather than we have KD an RW... that's what their offense looks like
Fair point.
Is that partly poor coaching too? Waaaaay too much iso ball?
Not enough courage from "somewhere" to address it, the blame i guess is irrelevant :-\
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Quote from: Jay on May 01, 2016, 01:38:14 PM
Turns out only having 2 good players and a bad coach vs a whole team of great players and the best ever coach doesn't work too well.
not sure that fair on Kanter and Ibaka but yeah the chemistry not there.
paid KD with a paul type and westbrook with say leonard!!!
Chemistry? Chemistry isn't the issue - 80% of their roster is the issue.
KD should leave that mess.
This is what happens when you command big money and dont "lead"
I see your point but it's more of the organisations fault IMO. They've had five years with KD/Russ at the helm but haven't put the pieces around them.
Roberson starts ffs. It's atrocious.
My point is KD mentality is i do this
Westbrook's mentality is i do this
SOMEBODY had to work out how it could coexist beautifully rather than we have KD an RW... that's what their offense looks like
Its more they have never had a pg. Westbrook is the best sg in the league, they are forcing him to play point. He is racking up assists but its not his usual role.
They should have targeted rondo or someone like that.
Rondo on the Thunder would be hilarious
If they had kept Harden for 1 more year they woud've won the title and then could've all gone their separate ways, I feel sick watching 2 superstars like Durant and Westbrook under an organisation that made all the right moves, then started making all the wrong moves post Harden era.
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Pretty intense finish to the game even if the bet was done.
If Livingston made that shot to put the Warriors up my 3 I would've been right in
Thanks to Rockets my multi still looking good. However George forgot how to shoot
Whats ya multi?
I'm finding in general the total score lines for most games are set way too high through the play-offs so far. Not ballsy enough to cash in though, scared I'll get a game that goes to OT and I lose cause of that haha
Golden State 4-1
OKC 4-1
Cavs 4-0
Raptors 4-3
I'll leave this here with the $500 I collected from $6
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Quote from: elephants on April 22, 2016, 03:47:21 PM
Pretty intense finish to the game even if the bet was done.
If Livingston made that shot to put the Warriors up my 3 I would've been right in
Thanks to Rockets my multi still looking good. However George forgot how to shoot
Whats ya multi?
I'm finding in general the total score lines for most games are set way too high through the play-offs so far. Not ballsy enough to cash in though, scared I'll get a game that goes to OT and I lose cause of that haha
Golden State 4-1
OKC 4-1
Cavs 4-0
Raptors 4-3
I'll leave this here with the $500 I collected from $6
Impressive :o
Quote from: Jay on May 02, 2016, 03:08:23 PM
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Quote from: elephants on April 22, 2016, 03:47:21 PM
Pretty intense finish to the game even if the bet was done.
If Livingston made that shot to put the Warriors up my 3 I would've been right in
Thanks to Rockets my multi still looking good. However George forgot how to shoot
Whats ya multi?
I'm finding in general the total score lines for most games are set way too high through the play-offs so far. Not ballsy enough to cash in though, scared I'll get a game that goes to OT and I lose cause of that haha
Golden State 4-1
OKC 4-1
Cavs 4-0
Raptors 4-3
I'll leave this here with the $500 I collected from $6
Impressive :o
Actual? you bet it and collected?
Heat move on baybee, glad we are gettin the Raptors, i didnt want a series with Paul George
Quote from: RiOtChEsS on May 02, 2016, 04:19:14 PM
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Quote from: R.Griffen on April 22, 2016, 05:11:49 PM
Quote from: elephants on April 22, 2016, 03:47:21 PM
Pretty intense finish to the game even if the bet was done.
If Livingston made that shot to put the Warriors up my 3 I would've been right in
Thanks to Rockets my multi still looking good. However George forgot how to shoot
Whats ya multi?
I'm finding in general the total score lines for most games are set way too high through the play-offs so far. Not ballsy enough to cash in though, scared I'll get a game that goes to OT and I lose cause of that haha
Golden State 4-1
OKC 4-1
Cavs 4-0
Raptors 4-3
I'll leave this here with the $500 I collected from $6
Impressive :o
Actual? you bet it and collected?
Heat move on baybee, glad we are gettin the Raptors, i didnt want a series with Paul George
Even after Pacers were 3-3 I was getting like nothing for cash out bonus. I was so nervous watching the game
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Quote from: R.Griffen on April 22, 2016, 05:11:49 PM
Quote from: elephants on April 22, 2016, 03:47:21 PM
Pretty intense finish to the game even if the bet was done.
If Livingston made that shot to put the Warriors up my 3 I would've been right in
Thanks to Rockets my multi still looking good. However George forgot how to shoot
Whats ya multi?
I'm finding in general the total score lines for most games are set way too high through the play-offs so far. Not ballsy enough to cash in though, scared I'll get a game that goes to OT and I lose cause of that haha
Golden State 4-1
OKC 4-1
Cavs 4-0
Raptors 4-3
I'll leave this here with the $500 I collected from $6
Impressive :o
Actual? you bet it and collected?
Heat move on baybee, glad we are gettin the Raptors, i didnt want a series with Paul George
Even after Pacers were 3-3 I was getting like nothing for cash out bonus. I was so nervous watching the game
Epic mate, congrats, your shout :D
Kevin Love tried hard to shoot us out the game going 4/17
LBJ JR and Uncle Drew wont go 9/16 from 3 point range every night so he needs to lift if we want to take out the West.
LMA is going crazy this series! Dude can't miss :o
That was crazy.
Cant believe The Spurs dropped one
Cant believe Manu Ginobili didnt shoot that, on the drive 7ft from the hoop, defender to his right, ball in his left hand, ya gotta shoot that
Quote from: My Chumps on May 03, 2016, 01:37:15 PM
LMA is going crazy this series! Dude can't miss :o
Can you bet on finals MVP yet, cos this guy has got it on lock!
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Quote from: My Chumps on May 03, 2016, 01:37:15 PM
LMA is going crazy this series! Dude can't miss :o
Can you bet on finals MVP yet, cos this guy has got it on lock!
How about Leonard, Curry, James?
Quote from: Holz on May 03, 2016, 04:55:58 PM
Quote from: jvalles69 on May 03, 2016, 04:53:49 PM
Quote from: My Chumps on May 03, 2016, 01:37:15 PM
LMA is going crazy this series! Dude can't miss :o
Can you bet on finals MVP yet, cos this guy has got it on lock!
How about Leonard, Curry, James?
I think at this stage LMA would have better value than those guys, and he's taken his game to another level with the Spurs, and again in the early stages of the finals. Had a look and can't find anything on Sportsbet or Willy Hill though.
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Quote from: My Chumps on May 03, 2016, 01:37:15 PM
LMA is going crazy this series! Dude can't miss :o
Can you bet on finals MVP yet, cos this guy has got it on lock!
How about Leonard, Curry, James?
I think at this stage LMA would have better value than those guys, and he's taken his game to another level with the Spurs, and again in the early stages of the finals. Had a look and can't find anything on Sportsbet or Willy Hill though.
It's on Sportsbet
(https://i.gyazo.com/942bf0b360e4428e0ee48c6d2b21051c.png)
Quote from: jvalles69 on May 03, 2016, 05:08:41 PM
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Quote from: My Chumps on May 03, 2016, 01:37:15 PM
LMA is going crazy this series! Dude can't miss :o
Can you bet on finals MVP yet, cos this guy has got it on lock!
How about Leonard, Curry, James?
I think at this stage LMA would have better value than those guys, and he's taken his game to another level with the Spurs, and again in the early stages of the finals. Had a look and can't find anything on Sportsbet or Willy Hill though.
haha u chaps do know finals MVP is for "the finals" only, not playoffs ;)
Quote from: RiOtChEsS on May 03, 2016, 05:53:06 PM
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Quote from: My Chumps on May 03, 2016, 01:37:15 PM
LMA is going crazy this series! Dude can't miss :o
Can you bet on finals MVP yet, cos this guy has got it on lock!
How about Leonard, Curry, James?
I think at this stage LMA would have better value than those guys, and he's taken his game to another level with the Spurs, and again in the early stages of the finals. Had a look and can't find anything on Sportsbet or Willy Hill though.
haha u chaps do know finals MVP is for "the finals" only, not playoffs ;)
also its not even the best player in the finals is the best player on the winning team.
Y'all lucky Brooklyn didn't make the playoffs. Thats all ima say.
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Quote from: My Chumps on May 03, 2016, 01:37:15 PM
LMA is going crazy this series! Dude can't miss :o
Can you bet on finals MVP yet, cos this guy has got it on lock!
How about Leonard, Curry, James?
I think at this stage LMA would have better value than those guys, and he's taken his game to another level with the Spurs, and again in the early stages of the finals. Had a look and can't find anything on Sportsbet or Willy Hill though.
haha u chaps do know finals MVP is for "the finals" only, not playoffs ;)
also its not even the best player in the finals is the best player on the winning team.
Exactly, I see Spurs winning it all and LMA's form is too good to ignore, most likely will come up against Cavs, who's gonna defend him? If they beat GSW too in the conference, noone's going to stop him so see his western conference form being in the back of minds too if the MVP race is close.
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Quote from: My Chumps on May 03, 2016, 01:37:15 PM
LMA is going crazy this series! Dude can't miss :o
Can you bet on finals MVP yet, cos this guy has got it on lock!
How about Leonard, Curry, James?
I think at this stage LMA would have better value than those guys, and he's taken his game to another level with the Spurs, and again in the early stages of the finals. Had a look and can't find anything on Sportsbet or Willy Hill though.
haha u chaps do know finals MVP is for "the finals" only, not playoffs ;)
also its not even the best player in the finals is the best player on the winning team.
Exactly, I see Spurs winning it all and LMA's form is too good to ignore, most likely will come up against Cavs, who's gonna defend him? If they beat GSW too in the conference, noone's going to stop him so see his western conference form being in the back of minds too if the MVP race is close.
If they play the cavs though leoanrd will probably slow down lebron which is huge. Leonard is the best at slowing lebron down i have ever seen. Nobody can stop him but he comes close.
Thompson will win alot of offensive boards so that may eat into LMA rebound production.
in saying that its good odds, just think Leonard will get the nod.
Quote from: Holz on May 03, 2016, 06:44:44 PM
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Quote from: jvalles69 on May 03, 2016, 04:53:49 PM
Quote from: My Chumps on May 03, 2016, 01:37:15 PM
LMA is going crazy this series! Dude can't miss :o
Can you bet on finals MVP yet, cos this guy has got it on lock!
How about Leonard, Curry, James?
I think at this stage LMA would have better value than those guys, and he's taken his game to another level with the Spurs, and again in the early stages of the finals. Had a look and can't find anything on Sportsbet or Willy Hill though.
haha u chaps do know finals MVP is for "the finals" only, not playoffs ;)
also its not even the best player in the finals is the best player on the winning team.
Exactly, I see Spurs winning it all and LMA's form is too good to ignore, most likely will come up against Cavs, who's gonna defend him? If they beat GSW too in the conference, noone's going to stop him so see his western conference form being in the back of minds too if the MVP race is close.
If they play the cavs though leoanrd will probably slow down lebron which is huge. Leonard is the best at slowing lebron down i have ever seen. Nobody can stop him but he comes close.
Thompson will win alot of offensive boards so that may eat into LMA rebound production.
in saying that its good odds, just think Leonard will get the nod.
LeBron can stop LeBron, see: 2011 Finals
Before you get your knickers in a knot I'm just trolling m8
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Quote from: My Chumps on May 03, 2016, 01:37:15 PM
LMA is going crazy this series! Dude can't miss :o
Can you bet on finals MVP yet, cos this guy has got it on lock!
How about Leonard, Curry, James?
I think at this stage LMA would have better value than those guys, and he's taken his game to another level with the Spurs, and again in the early stages of the finals. Had a look and can't find anything on Sportsbet or Willy Hill though.
It's on Sportsbet
(https://i.gyazo.com/942bf0b360e4428e0ee48c6d2b21051c.png)
Thanks, it wouldn't show up on the app. Laid $10 LMA, if he averages a double double in the championship round and Spurs win, he should take MVP.
Finals MVP is not a bad market because of the randomness - best player on the team doesn't always win e.g. Igoudala, Pierce.
But yeah it always goes to the winning team. If LBJ couldn't win it last year on a losing team then no one ever can. I don't mind Klay at those odds. Or even Parker getting hot for a series is not out of the question, especially if Irving is guarding him. It's all matchups.
I dont mind the look of Draymond or Kawhi
Remember what Iggy did defensively carried a ton of weight last year in voting ;)
NBA admits 5 missed calls in the last 15 seconds of Spurs Thunder (http://animated-gifs.org/wp-content/uploads/2011/12/roflmao-ag1.gif)
Haha Wilbon ripped Ginobili for not shooting the shot #justsayin
Goran Dragic with a dagger 3! :o
Lowry WOW!
WHAT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I know wtf what a shot
D-Wade still a baaddddd booyyyyyy
Good to see the heat and raptors play a tough game, hope it goes to 7 games :P
meanwhile Portland big first quarter on warriors unlikely to keep going as it was 4/6 3s to 1/7 that trend could reverse very easily.
im actually not sure if warriors winning quickly is good or bad for curry.
Warriors are down 8 at the moment. They are a team that only manages to play 5 minutes of good basketball and still win games.
That was a terrible stretch of basketball summed up by the Green air ball.
Quote from: Mat0369 on May 04, 2016, 03:28:59 PM
That was a terrible stretch of basketball summed up by the Green air ball.
annnnnnnd then :D
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annnnnnnd then :D
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They are a team that only manages to play 5 minutes of good basketball and still win games.
Those 5 minutes are some of the most fun basketball you'll ever see though
Cleveland 18 made threes this half.........
Quote from: Jay on May 05, 2016, 12:05:17 PM
Cleveland 18 made threes this half.........
I reckon they will win this game.
Struggle to understand NBA scheduling sometimes. Why do we have a three day break mid series?
Quote from: My Chumps on May 05, 2016, 06:51:04 PM
Struggle to understand NBA scheduling sometimes. Why do we have a three day break mid series?
Yeah I hate this, happened last year too. Think it's so they have more games on weekends.
Larry Bird fires Frank Vogel :o
JV is a beast in the paint..
Oh Waaaaade ice-man haha
Toronto still up by a point with the ball and 37 seconds left.
My gosh, Kyle Lowry. When you're hot you're hot!
Dragic open 3, jeeeeesus.
Scores tied 86-86
Dragic :o
That last one from Lowry wasn't pretty.
To OT we go!
shoot the 3 miami
that would have been huge had we stolen game 2
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just started watching a replay of the game today, painful to watch already
Quote from: R.Griffen on May 06, 2016, 11:35:33 PM
just started watching a replay of the game today, painful to watch already
we come good in the 3rd
Reminder that the Cavs got Channing Frye for a packet of chips..
Hawks fans are yelling for the team to foul, they didnt, they are now walking out...
Fairly aggressive push their by Teague. If Cavs play like this all the time, I think I'll start looking forward to the big dance if they make it all the way. Any combo of Cavs vs Warriors/Spurs/OKC is going to be an epic series.
Wow, that was the most blatant double dribble I've ever seen by Kawhi! :o
Is there a reason why sometimes i can watch nba on sportsbet and sometimes i cant?
Quote from: JBs-Hawks on May 07, 2016, 12:50:18 PM
Is there a reason why sometimes i can watch nba on sportsbet and sometimes i cant?
I think if the game is being shown on ESPN Australia, then you can't...have you tried Wiliam Hill or Bet365?
Quote from: Jay on May 07, 2016, 12:26:28 PM
Reminder that the Cavs got Channing Frye for a packet of chips..
half eaten bag of chips at that :D
This is game 7 intensity 8)
I know Westbrook is a fantastic player, but hot take, I don't really enjoy watching him. He's in one gear the whole time, has patches where he is wildly out of control, and launches threes despite years of data proving he isn't good at them.
Quote from: Jay on May 07, 2016, 02:35:12 PM
I know Westbrook is a fantastic player, but hot take, I don't really enjoy watching him. He's in one gear the whole time, has patches where he is wildly out of control, and launches threes despite years of data proving he isn't good at them.
When he's on it's fun to watch, but yeah I pretty much agree. Pure energy and athleticism.
Two consecutive turnovers from Westbrook + Durant.
Let's close this out! #gospursgo
Memphis fire coach, Dave Joerger.
Wow... Him and Vogel very hard done by imo.
Quote from: Jay on May 08, 2016, 01:15:43 AM
Memphis fire coach, Dave Joerger.
Wow... Him and Vogel very hard done by imo.
absolutely, how Memphis stayed in the playoffs after the injuries they had defied logic
Whiteside sprained his knee, Valancuinas is killing us and our O is stagnant iso :-\
Why is Haslem in? What does he provide these days? ???
WHERE IS DRAGIC!?
And then call your last TO after a free throw rebound when down 4? Just push the ball!!
He should have trapped Demar in the corner instead of fouling straight away too. Was still 23 seconds left.
Spolestra botched the flower out of this.
This is why you need to close out games, let game 2 slip away, had them in the penalty at the 9 minute mark in this one... ::)
Since when is DWade stroking threes :o
Series tied 2-2. Spurs and Thunder
Quote from: Cookie311993 on May 09, 2016, 01:53:04 PM
Series tied 2-2. Spurs and Thunder
noooo
i can see it already these 2 battle it out 7 games get tired and then the warriors finish them off.
Im just crossing my fingers no injuries occur.
Quote from: Holz on May 09, 2016, 01:58:45 PM
Quote from: Cookie311993 on May 09, 2016, 01:53:04 PM
Series tied 2-2. Spurs and Thunder
noooo
i can see it already these 2 battle it out 7 games get tired and then the warriors finish them off.
Im just crossing my fingers no injuries occur.
Put another asterisks next to their title again right? ::) ::)
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Quote from: Cookie311993 on May 09, 2016, 01:53:04 PM
Series tied 2-2. Spurs and Thunder
noooo
i can see it already these 2 battle it out 7 games get tired and then the warriors finish them off.
Im just crossing my fingers no injuries occur.
Put another asterisks next to their title again right? ::) ::)
nah not pending injury to Leonard, LMA, Durrant or Westbrook.
By the way I said finish of the spurs/warriors not win the title :P
my Cavs on fire and I reckon they are now favorite for the title.
https://youtu.be/BlNmfkLlITI?t=1m53s
Let us breathe this in a minute and have a LOL at Jeff Teague now ;D ;D
Kings hire Dave joerger
http://basketball.realgm.com/wiretap/241845/Dave-Joerger-Hired-By-Kings-As-Head-Coach
Quote from: valkorum on May 10, 2016, 10:50:51 AM
Kings hire Dave joerger
http://basketball.realgm.com/wiretap/241845/Dave-Joerger-Hired-By-Kings-As-Head-Coach
Got yourself a good coach there, Valk! :)
Quote from: Jay on May 10, 2016, 11:14:01 AM
Quote from: valkorum on May 10, 2016, 10:50:51 AM
Kings hire Dave joerger
http://basketball.realgm.com/wiretap/241845/Dave-Joerger-Hired-By-Kings-As-Head-Coach
Got yourself a good coach there, Valk! :)
I certainly hope so. At least he knows how to coach dominant big guys
Wade turning back the clock this playoffs! Love it.
Oh my goodness, that's Steph Curry's music!!!
Btw, I'm very surprised they brought him back this soon.
when you bet on Dwade to go over 21pts before going to bed, then wake up check and realize u hit under ::) #yagonnahaveabadtime
Quote from: Jay on May 10, 2016, 02:00:26 PM
Oh my goodness, that's Steph Curry's music!!!
Btw, I'm very surprised they brought him back this soon.
they need him going 2-2 is very dangerous.
Lillard could go off in game 5 and be 3-2 up then your in massive trouble. Portland got a punchers chance with lillard McCollum
also it means he may get some rust off 0-5 at half time. If he did that in game 5 they could lose
As crazy as Portland were to run 3 straight possessions with McCollum on Iggy,
Lillard not getting a touch in a close game...
Who Better than CURRY
Quote from: Holz on May 10, 2016, 03:17:34 PM
Quote from: Jay on May 10, 2016, 02:00:26 PM
Oh my goodness, that's Steph Curry's music!!!
Btw, I'm very surprised they brought him back this soon.
they need him going 2-2 is very dangerous.
Lillard could go off in game 5 and be 3-2 up then your in massive trouble. Portland got a punchers chance with lillard McCollum
also it means he may get some rust off 0-5 at half time. If he did that in game 5 they could lose
This guy...
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Quote from: Jay on May 10, 2016, 02:00:26 PM
Oh my goodness, that's Steph Curry's music!!!
Btw, I'm very surprised they brought him back this soon.
they need him going 2-2 is very dangerous.
Lillard could go off in game 5 and be 3-2 up then your in massive trouble. Portland got a punchers chance with lillard McCollum
also it means he may get some rust off 0-5 at half time. If he did that in game 5 they could lose
This guy...
what do you mean?
its smart play by the warriors. You dont want to go 2-2 in the series which I think people would agree could have happend if curry missed today.
Curry was cold in the first half and then was amazing in the second. If he came back game 5 2-2 and came out cold and lillar red hot they could have been looking at 3-2 and not smart to put yourself in that position.
Curry looked good and they should take this 4-1 and rest up as Spurs Thunder battle it out.
Lebron already has his feet up and curry needs it more then him.
Steph was amazing in OT.. 17 points! That does not happen!
Interesting situation now, up 3-1 with two home games to come. Do you rest Steph for game 5? Play him limited minutes off the bench? Or unleash him to finish this series off for good..
Quote from: Jay on May 10, 2016, 10:20:55 PM
Steph was amazing in OT.. 17 points! That does not happen!
Interesting situation now, up 3-1 with two home games to come. Do you rest Steph for game 5? Play him limited minutes off the bench? Or unleash him to finish this series off for good..
Two 6 minute stints in the first half and then go for the kill in the second half...
They may already be broken, if the Warriors jump them double digits early in Game 5 i dont think they Portland rally
Steph Curry 1st Unanimous MVP in League History
Quote from: RiOtChEsS on May 11, 2016, 09:24:33 AM
Steph Curry 1st Unanimous MVP in League History
To be fair, there was that one year LeBron should have won unanimously but there was one Melo vote haha
I just want to say that we are witnessing a really special player at the peak of his powers. NBA posted his top 30 of the season and almost every highlight is unique and unprecedented in NBA history. It's freaking amazing.
Quote from: plumdog millionaire on May 11, 2016, 10:25:23 AM
Quote from: RiOtChEsS on May 11, 2016, 09:24:33 AM
Steph Curry 1st Unanimous MVP in League History
To be fair, there was that one year LeBron should have won unanimously but there was one Melo vote haha
I just want to say that we are witnessing a really special player at the peak of his powers. NBA posted his top 30 of the season and almost every highlight is unique and unprecedented in NBA history. It's freaking amazing.
KG and Shaq probably deserved unanimous too when they won it haha. But yeah, amazing season from Curry.
Damn it's good to see Timmy Duncan back balling! Last few games have been tough.
Quote from: My Chumps on May 11, 2016, 01:15:31 PM
Damn it's good to see Timmy Duncan back balling! Last few games have been tough.
5pts, 3rebs and 2blks aint' ballin'!
OKC would be so much better if Durant and Westbrook could keep their TO's down. How do you become such accomplished basketballers and not learn to keep your TO's down for god sake! And it has nothing to do with Spurs defence, they TO all the time!
What a game!! Thunder vs Spurs
Why the flower does tony parker take clutch shots its flowering mental
We have one of the best players in the league and we refuse to give him the ball
Up the thunder. We get the win 95-91. Lead series 3-2
Abysmal no call on Kawhi at the end, and to then call the slight swipe on Aldridge...
Spurs are flowerin useless :-X
I reckon thats game over. Thunder at home should close it.
Thunder looking good with Durrant Westbrook clicking, Kanter looks great. Adams looking very solid.
need more out of Ibaka though.
I have a feeling that it will go to game 7. Hopefully the Thunder can seal the deal in game 6
From the minute mark down to the last 10 seconds, Tony Parker took 4 of the 5 shots...
The 1 Aldridge shot came off a rebound of a Tony Parker miss...
This is your closer ??? you're paying Kawhi and LMA big bikkies and
your go to play is TP9 shooting over Westbrook
(http://vignette2.wikia.nocookie.net/survivor-rpg/images/e/e5/Jackie_Chan_Confused.jpg/revision/latest?cb=20140327212202)
Quote from: RiOtChEsS on May 11, 2016, 01:54:07 PM
From the minute mark down to the last 10 seconds, Tony Parker took 4 of the 5 shots...
The 1 Aldridge shot came off a rebound of a Tony Parker miss...
This is your closer ??? you're paying Kawhi and LMA big bikkies and
your go to play is TP9 shooting over Westbrook
(http://vignette2.wikia.nocookie.net/survivor-rpg/images/e/e5/Jackie_Chan_Confused.jpg/revision/latest?cb=20140327212202)
Same thing yesterday with McCollum handling the ball and taking the shots over Lillard in OT. :o ???
Quote from: jvalles69 on May 11, 2016, 02:04:09 PM
Quote from: RiOtChEsS on May 11, 2016, 01:54:07 PM
From the minute mark down to the last 10 seconds, Tony Parker took 4 of the 5 shots...
The 1 Aldridge shot came off a rebound of a Tony Parker miss...
This is your closer ??? you're paying Kawhi and LMA big bikkies and
your go to play is TP9 shooting over Westbrook
(http://vignette2.wikia.nocookie.net/survivor-rpg/images/e/e5/Jackie_Chan_Confused.jpg/revision/latest?cb=20140327212202)
Same thing yesterday with McCollum handling the ball and taking the shots over Lillard in OT. :o ???
somewhat similar but makes abit of sense.
at least mcCollum is their clear second best player.
I'm shocked the Spurs are facing elimination..
Quote from: Jay on May 11, 2016, 03:45:41 PM
I'm shocked the Spurs are facing elimination..
its the thunder the team that best matches up on them. 2 superstars so leoanrd cant stop both and they are young and quick.
Quote from: jvalles69 on May 11, 2016, 02:04:09 PM
Quote from: RiOtChEsS on May 11, 2016, 01:54:07 PM
From the minute mark down to the last 10 seconds, Tony Parker took 4 of the 5 shots...
The 1 Aldridge shot came off a rebound of a Tony Parker miss...
This is your closer ??? you're paying Kawhi and LMA big bikkies and
your go to play is TP9 shooting over Westbrook
(http://vignette2.wikia.nocookie.net/survivor-rpg/images/e/e5/Jackie_Chan_Confused.jpg/revision/latest?cb=20140327212202)
Same thing yesterday with McCollum handling the ball and taking the shots over Lillard in OT. :o ???
Yep it defies logic really doesn't it ???
Quote from: Holz on May 11, 2016, 03:54:47 PM
Quote from: Jay on May 11, 2016, 03:45:41 PM
I'm shocked the Spurs are facing elimination..
its the thunder the team that best matches up on them. 2 superstars so leoanrd cant stop both and they are young and quick.
I actually think OKC deserve to move on now, taken 2 games on a floor SA lost 1 game on all year
I'm an OKC fan and even I thought we'd be done in 5 games against the Spurs. So unconvincing all season but have looked very good during playoffs. Shame we have to get through GSW to get a shot at the title
I've got to say I'm starting to like the look of OKC vs Warriors matchup.
2 of arguably the best shooters/scorers going around in Curry and Durant (personally I think they are 1 and 2, Durants had a few setbacks with injury, but before then he was #1)
The 2 best trip dub play makers in the league in Westbrook and Green
OKC would need a few more guys to step up to match it with Klay and Iggy too.
Would be a very entertaining series!
Definitely not functioning like we used to. This could be a sad end for one of the GOATs :(
Still hoping we can take it to 7!
Definitely a more "sexy matchup" than the SA jvalles
I'm still gobsmacked they ran Parker at Westbrook down the stretch repeatedly ???
Quote from: RiOtChEsS on May 11, 2016, 05:40:25 PM
Definitely a more "sexy matchup" than the SA jvalles
I'm still gobsmacked they ran Parker at Westbrook down the stretch repeatedly ???
Always thought Spurs had the best chance to knock off GSW, but definitely don't think so any more. Duncan would play less than 10 minutes prob for the whole series!
If Spurs look like they are going to drop the next game, they'd surely have to roll with a lineup of Mills, Green, Kawhi and Aldridge with maybe Diaw or Duncan...can't let Parker or Ginobili in there any more. Has to be Lamarcus or Kawhi that they go to.
Quote from: jvalles69 on May 11, 2016, 05:10:22 PM
I've got to say I'm starting to like the look of OKC vs Warriors matchup.
2 of arguably the best shooters/scorers going around in Curry and Durant (personally I think they are 1 and 2, Durants had a few setbacks with injury, but before then he was #1)
The 2 best trip dub play makers in the league in Westbrook and Green
OKC would need a few more guys to step up to match it with Klay and Iggy too.
Would be a very entertaining series!
Kanter is stepping up what they need is great rim protection from Ibaka and Adams and they stand a good chance. If Durrant and Westbrook are on the warriors wont stop them. I rate the spurs D over the warriors and the thunder are scoring reasonably easy.
How can you rate anyone over the warriors when they have had a season like this? breaking all sorts of records. They are clearly the best team. I would love for OKC or the spurs to beat them but I cant see them doing it
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Quote from: RiOtChEsS on May 11, 2016, 05:40:25 PM
Definitely a more "sexy matchup" than the SA jvalles
I'm still gobsmacked they ran Parker at Westbrook down the stretch repeatedly ???
Always thought Spurs had the best chance to knock off GSW, but definitely don't think so any more. Duncan would play less than 10 minutes prob for the whole series!
If Spurs look like they are going to drop the next game, they'd surely have to roll with a lineup of Mills, Green, Kawhi and Aldridge with maybe Diaw or Duncan...can't let Parker or Ginobili in there any more. Has to be Lamarcus or Kawhi that they go to.
My thinking was that the Spurs are a far better team than everyone bar Golden State, and would be the team most likely to force a game 6 or 7 vs the Warriors - but struggle to see them coming out on top. OKC I gave the best shot of actually beating GSW in a 7-game series (even though that still is small). Reason being, the Warriors have never really found an answer for Durant, he averages 30.9 points on 52% shooting, 47% on threes vs them in his career. They have solid rim protection and length on the defensive perimeter.
And I agree with you, Duncan would be pretty close to out of the rotation vs the Warriors. Or at least, I would not play him a single second when Steph is in the game. All they do is run a PnR with Steph and Duncan's man, they get the switch and then Steph blows right by Duncan, or they don't switch and you leave Curry in space. I'd only bring Duncan in when GSW go to their bench units, and he can live in the paint with Ezeli.
As for this series, I'm not too sure what the Spurs do. I presume they'll just shorten the rotation, cut Kyle Anderson's minutes, that guy just has no place in these playoffs. I'd roll with Mills - Green - Ginobiilli - Leonard - Aldridge down the stretch. Spurs just need some offense desperately because KD and Russ are always going to get theirs. I'm going to pick the Spurs to pull this out.
Quote from: Jay on May 11, 2016, 08:10:13 PM
Quote from: jvalles69 on May 11, 2016, 05:59:14 PM
Quote from: RiOtChEsS on May 11, 2016, 05:40:25 PM
Definitely a more "sexy matchup" than the SA jvalles
I'm still gobsmacked they ran Parker at Westbrook down the stretch repeatedly ???
Always thought Spurs had the best chance to knock off GSW, but definitely don't think so any more. Duncan would play less than 10 minutes prob for the whole series!
If Spurs look like they are going to drop the next game, they'd surely have to roll with a lineup of Mills, Green, Kawhi and Aldridge with maybe Diaw or Duncan...can't let Parker or Ginobili in there any more. Has to be Lamarcus or Kawhi that they go to.
My thinking was that the Spurs are a far better team than everyone bar Golden State, and would be the team most likely to force a game 6 or 7 vs the Warriors - but struggle to see them coming out on top. OKC I gave the best shot of actually beating GSW in a 7-game series (even though that still is small). Reason being, the Warriors have never really found an answer for Durant, he averages 30.9 points on 52% shooting, 47% on threes vs them in his career. They have solid rim protection and length on the defensive perimeter.
And I agree with you, Duncan would be pretty close to out of the rotation vs the Warriors. Or at least, I would not play him a single second when Steph is in the game. All they do is run a PnR with Steph and Duncan's man, they get the switch and then Steph blows right by Duncan, or they don't switch and you leave Curry in space. I'd only bring Duncan in when GSW go to their bench units, and he can live in the paint with Ezeli.
As for this series, I'm not too sure what the Spurs do. I presume they'll just shorten the rotation, cut Kyle Anderson's minutes, that guy just has no place in these playoffs. I'd roll with Mills - Green - Ginobiilli - Leonard - Aldridge down the stretch. Spurs just need some offense desperately because KD and Russ are always going to get theirs. I'm going to pick the Spurs to pull this out.
w0w really? ya still think they can pull it out :o
The plays they ran down the stretch looked so un Spurs like, un Pop like, no ball movement at all
Why they didnt go to LMA and his elbow post up or just plain iso Kawhi on whoever, Thunder were in the penalty last 3 minutes
If anyone can do it, it's Pop, but if Durant and Westbrook can keep their TO's well below double figures then no chance. Over 10 TO's in the next 2 games between them and I think Spurs can take the series.
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Quote from: RiOtChEsS on May 11, 2016, 05:40:25 PM
Definitely a more "sexy matchup" than the SA jvalles
I'm still gobsmacked they ran Parker at Westbrook down the stretch repeatedly ???
Always thought Spurs had the best chance to knock off GSW, but definitely don't think so any more. Duncan would play less than 10 minutes prob for the whole series!
If Spurs look like they are going to drop the next game, they'd surely have to roll with a lineup of Mills, Green, Kawhi and Aldridge with maybe Diaw or Duncan...can't let Parker or Ginobili in there any more. Has to be Lamarcus or Kawhi that they go to.
My thinking was that the Spurs are a far better team than everyone bar Golden State, and would be the team most likely to force a game 6 or 7 vs the Warriors - but struggle to see them coming out on top. OKC I gave the best shot of actually beating GSW in a 7-game series (even though that still is small). Reason being, the Warriors have never really found an answer for Durant, he averages 30.9 points on 52% shooting, 47% on threes vs them in his career. They have solid rim protection and length on the defensive perimeter.
And I agree with you, Duncan would be pretty close to out of the rotation vs the Warriors. Or at least, I would not play him a single second when Steph is in the game. All they do is run a PnR with Steph and Duncan's man, they get the switch and then Steph blows right by Duncan, or they don't switch and you leave Curry in space. I'd only bring Duncan in when GSW go to their bench units, and he can live in the paint with Ezeli.
As for this series, I'm not too sure what the Spurs do. I presume they'll just shorten the rotation, cut Kyle Anderson's minutes, that guy just has no place in these playoffs. I'd roll with Mills - Green - Ginobiilli - Leonard - Aldridge down the stretch. Spurs just need some offense desperately because KD and Russ are always going to get theirs. I'm going to pick the Spurs to pull this out.
w0w really? ya still think they can pull it out :o
The plays they ran down the stretch looked so un Spurs like, un Pop like, no ball movement at all
Why they didnt go to LMA and his elbow post up or just plain iso Kawhi on whoever, Thunder were in the penalty last 3 minutes
It's more of a gut feel than anything :-X I can see game 6 being a Westbrook "show" and can't back Donavon to out-coach Pop. Feels like a 7-game series to me.
Great point on how the Spurs offense is looking. This play from a couple of years ago is what jumps out at me when I think of the Spurs. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BVNR8CWeoeI. Completely different style now.
Surely the way they're playing is on purpose
Quote from: plumdog millionaire on May 11, 2016, 10:36:05 PM
Surely the way they're playing is on purpose
Yeah course, and it is probably the best way to go with their personnel. Kawhi scored 0.99 points per possession in isolation over the regular season, ranked 6th in the league. And Aldridge ranked 10th in the league in 'post-ups' points per possession. Interestingly, Kawhi was 6th. Those two are their offensive weapons and aren't as much suited to the spacey, ball movement, pass up a good shot to get a great shot kinda system that the Spurs used to run.
Just interesting to note how much the style has changed in a short time. Shows how great a coach Pop is to be effective running any system.
Quote from: Jay on May 11, 2016, 10:56:56 PM
Quote from: plumdog millionaire on May 11, 2016, 10:36:05 PM
Surely the way they're playing is on purpose
Yeah course, and it is probably the best way to go with their personnel. Kawhi scored 0.99 points per possession in isolation over the regular season, ranked 6th in the league. And Aldridge ranked 10th in the league in 'post-ups' points per possession. Interestingly, Kawhi was 6th. Those two are their offensive weapons and aren't as much suited to the spacey, ball movement, pass up a good shot to get a great shot kinda system that the Spurs used to run.
Just interesting to note how much the style has changed in a short time. Shows how great a coach Pop is to be effective running any system.
Bill Belichick of the NBA
Alridge was off all game today hence why we didn't go to the post late.
But yeah, I was screaming for them to give the ball to Leonard at the end there. Tony Parker was just...
Quote from: Jay on May 11, 2016, 08:10:13 PM
As for this series, I'm not too sure what the Spurs do. I presume they'll just shorten the rotation, cut Kyle Anderson's minutes, that guy just has no place in these playoffs. I'd roll with Mills - Green - Ginobiilli - Leonard - Aldridge down the stretch. Spurs just need some offense desperately because KD and Russ are always going to get theirs. I'm going to pick the Spurs to pull this out.
Works offensively but someone gets absolutely bullied in that lineup on D + no boards. We got slaughtered on the boards. Turnover count was 20-7 and we still lost.
Honestly, the biggest issue emerging from this season IMO is TD isn't playing like TD. If he was playing like half of the guy we saw in the series vs the Clippers this would be so different. David West got bullied in game 4 when he played down the stretch. TD showed glimpses this morning but got monstered on the boards. Kanter is killing us on the glass.
Too many problems. Their guns are outgunning LMA + Kawhi. I wonder if Kawhi can play 45 minutes...
Yeah Tim's per 36 numbers (Usually really consistent year to year) have finally dropped off, what do you expect really
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Quote from: RiOtChEsS on May 11, 2016, 05:40:25 PM
Definitely a more "sexy matchup" than the SA jvalles
I'm still gobsmacked they ran Parker at Westbrook down the stretch repeatedly ???
Always thought Spurs had the best chance to knock off GSW, but definitely don't think so any more. Duncan would play less than 10 minutes prob for the whole series!
If Spurs look like they are going to drop the next game, they'd surely have to roll with a lineup of Mills, Green, Kawhi and Aldridge with maybe Diaw or Duncan...can't let Parker or Ginobili in there any more. Has to be Lamarcus or Kawhi that they go to.
My thinking was that the Spurs are a far better team than everyone bar Golden State, and would be the team most likely to force a game 6 or 7 vs the Warriors - but struggle to see them coming out on top. OKC I gave the best shot of actually beating GSW in a 7-game series (even though that still is small). Reason being, the Warriors have never really found an answer for Durant, he averages 30.9 points on 52% shooting, 47% on threes vs them in his career. They have solid rim protection and length on the defensive perimeter.
And I agree with you, Duncan would be pretty close to out of the rotation vs the Warriors. Or at least, I would not play him a single second when Steph is in the game. All they do is run a PnR with Steph and Duncan's man, they get the switch and then Steph blows right by Duncan, or they don't switch and you leave Curry in space. I'd only bring Duncan in when GSW go to their bench units, and he can live in the paint with Ezeli.
As for this series, I'm not too sure what the Spurs do. I presume they'll just shorten the rotation, cut Kyle Anderson's minutes, that guy just has no place in these playoffs. I'd roll with Mills - Green - Ginobiilli - Leonard - Aldridge down the stretch. Spurs just need some offense desperately because KD and Russ are always going to get theirs. I'm going to pick the Spurs to pull this out.
w0w really? ya still think they can pull it out :o
The plays they ran down the stretch looked so un Spurs like, un Pop like, no ball movement at all
Why they didnt go to LMA and his elbow post up or just plain iso Kawhi on whoever, Thunder were in the penalty last 3 minutes
It's more of a gut feel than anything :-X I can see game 6 being a Westbrook "show" and can't back Donavon to out-coach Pop. Feels like a 7-game series to me.
Great point on how the Spurs offense is looking. This play from a couple of years ago is what jumps out at me when I think of the Spurs. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BVNR8CWeoeI. Completely different style now.
I'd still feel the Spurs win if i hadn't seen how they ran those plays down the stretch, i listened to the Pop's presser and it wasn't brought up nor did he address it so it's probably what he was looking for :-\
That play is just pure basketball 8)
Good gawd we like to do things the hard way ::)
GSW are paying $1:06 today :o talk about overreaction to the last game...
that said i think they close out the series
Kyle Lowry without regard for human life!
Quote from: RiOtChEsS on May 12, 2016, 01:48:50 PM
Good gawd we like to do things the hard way ::)
GSW are paying $1:06 today :o talk about overreaction to the last game...
that said i think they close out the series
Fence sitting ;)
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Quote from: RiOtChEsS on May 12, 2016, 01:48:50 PM
Good gawd we like to do things the hard way ::)
GSW are paying $1:06 today :o talk about overreaction to the last game...
that said i think they close out the series
Fence sitting ;)
not sure there is a difference in thinking someone will do something and $1.06 which is basically a certainy.
39-31 Blazers. I still think warriors will win this game but $1.06 looking silly.
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Quote from: RiOtChEsS on May 12, 2016, 01:48:50 PM
Good gawd we like to do things the hard way ::)
GSW are paying $1:06 today :o talk about overreaction to the last game...
that said i think they close out the series
Fence sitting ;)
not sure there is a difference in thinking someone will do something and $1.06 which is basically a certainy.
39-31 Blazers. I still think warriors will win this game but $1.06 looking silly.
haha, would have been making the people nervous when Thompson was in foul trouble 4 minutes in. Didn't pick up any in the second but Green has 3 at the half now
Been keeping an eye on the live betting markets, Warriors are still paying $1.22 and Blazers paying $4...tempted to throw $10 on Blazers, but also if the Blazers blow the lead out get on Warriors...
Quote from: jvalles69 on May 12, 2016, 03:11:22 PM
Been keeping an eye on the live betting markets, Warriors are still paying $1.22 and Blazers paying $4...tempted to throw $10 on Blazers, but also if the Blazers blow the lead out get on Warriors...
yep that's what im waiting for, usually mid 3rd quarter they become more realistic odds
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Quote from: jvalles69 on May 12, 2016, 03:11:22 PM
Been keeping an eye on the live betting markets, Warriors are still paying $1.22 and Blazers paying $4...tempted to throw $10 on Blazers, but also if the Blazers blow the lead out get on Warriors...
yep that's what im waiting for, usually mid 3rd quarter they become more realistic odds
Think $7.50 is worth a punt for Blazers...
This Stephen guy does alright hey
Quote from: plumdog millionaire on May 12, 2016, 04:29:31 PM
This Stephen guy does alright hey
He is soooooo overrated that's sarcastic font ;)
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Quote from: RiOtChEsS on May 12, 2016, 03:29:22 PM
Quote from: jvalles69 on May 12, 2016, 03:11:22 PM
Been keeping an eye on the live betting markets, Warriors are still paying $1.22 and Blazers paying $4...tempted to throw $10 on Blazers, but also if the Blazers blow the lead out get on Warriors...
yep that's what im waiting for, usually mid 3rd quarter they become more realistic odds
Think $7.50 is worth a punt for Blazers...
I took the Blazers at $9 pregame (always gonna cash out)
Took the loot from that and bet the Warriors -6.5 at about the 9 minute mark thinking they were gonna explode :(
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This Stephen guy does alright hey
He is soooooo overrated that's sarcastic font ;)
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Steph Clutch Curry has a nice ring to it :D
now he has to earn it. Still really has never had a series on the line or done much in a finals series.
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Quote from: plumdog millionaire on May 12, 2016, 04:29:31 PM
This Stephen guy does alright hey
He is soooooo overrated that's sarcastic font ;)
HANDCHECKING
Steph Clutch Curry has a nice ring to it :D
now he has to earn it. Still really has never had a series on the line or done much in a finals series.
Your Warriors pessimism is getting old
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Quote from: plumdog millionaire on May 12, 2016, 04:29:31 PM
This Stephen guy does alright hey
He is soooooo overrated that's sarcastic font ;)
HANDCHECKING
Steph Clutch Curry has a nice ring to it :D
now he has to earn it. Still really has never had a series on the line or done much in a finals series.
Yea your right, 17 points in OT is flower all.
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Quote from: plumdog millionaire on May 12, 2016, 04:29:31 PM
This Stephen guy does alright hey
He is soooooo overrated that's sarcastic font ;)
HANDCHECKING
Steph Clutch Curry has a nice ring to it :D
now he has to earn it. Still really has never had a series on the line or done much in a finals series.
Your Warriors pessimism is getting old
Whatever you do Plum, don't read the comments on the NBA fb pages regarding Steph and the Warriors.. My goodness you lose brain cells just reading that stuff.
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Quote from: RiOtChEsS on May 12, 2016, 04:40:58 PM
Quote from: plumdog millionaire on May 12, 2016, 04:29:31 PM
This Stephen guy does alright hey
He is soooooo overrated that's sarcastic font ;)
HANDCHECKING
Steph Clutch Curry has a nice ring to it :D
now he has to earn it. Still really has never had a series on the line or done much in a finals series.
Your Warriors pessimism is getting old
its not pessimism, Im more then happy for him to go beserk in the playoffs and the warriors win the title. Im just not crowning anything yet.
Im not saying he isnt clutch, im not saying he isnt great. Im just saying he hasnt proven it yet.
for the record i think he has a good chance of doing so in the coming weeks.
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Quote from: plumdog millionaire on May 12, 2016, 04:29:31 PM
This Stephen guy does alright hey
He is soooooo overrated that's sarcastic font ;)
HANDCHECKING
Steph Clutch Curry has a nice ring to it :D
now he has to earn it. Still really has never had a series on the line or done much in a finals series.
Your Warriors pessimism is getting old
Whatever you do Plum, don't read the comments on the NBA fb pages regarding Steph and the Warriors.. My goodness you lose brain cells just reading that stuff.
Yep that's so true, those comments are literally the same 2/3 points. Reddit is so much better for the discussion and stuff.
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Quote from: plumdog millionaire on May 12, 2016, 04:29:31 PM
This Stephen guy does alright hey
He is soooooo overrated that's sarcastic font ;)
HANDCHECKING
Steph Clutch Curry has a nice ring to it :D
now he has to earn it. Still really has never had a series on the line or done much in a finals series.
Your Warriors pessimism is getting old
its not pessimism, Im more then happy for him to go beserk in the playoffs and the warriors win the title. Im just not crowning anything yet.
Im not saying he isnt clutch, im not saying he isnt great. Im just saying he hasnt proven it yet.
for the record i think he has a good chance of doing so in the coming weeks.
What does 'proven' mean when he's a two time MVP and favourite to win back to back titles...
Anyone still disbelieving in Steph Curry is like those who doubt Leicester wining the EPL! But guess what?
They already have ;) ...... if you get my drift
Let's see if I can explain this properly.
Steph Curry is a fantastic player and deserves his multiple MPV awards
BUT
He does not deserve to be in conversations about the greatest top 10 players etc. He has been good for 3 seasons (4 at the most). He has been in the league for 7 seasons (maybe 8 - need to double check). He averaged 30pts this season (his first time at that mark). Jordan averaged that for his career... INCLUDING his 2 seasons at Washington.
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Kyle Lowry without regard for human life!
one of the best sporting calls of all time.
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This Stephen guy does alright hey
He is soooooo overrated that's sarcastic font ;)
HANDCHECKING
Steph Clutch Curry has a nice ring to it :D
now he has to earn it. Still really has never had a series on the line or done much in a finals series.
Your Warriors pessimism is getting old
its not pessimism, Im more then happy for him to go beserk in the playoffs and the warriors win the title. Im just not crowning anything yet.
Im not saying he isnt clutch, im not saying he isnt great. Im just saying he hasnt proven it yet.
for the record i think he has a good chance of doing so in the coming weeks.
What does 'proven' mean when he's a two time MVP and favourite to win back to back titles...
I have been watching NBA for 26 seasons, seen countless hours of footage pre 1990
The Steph Curry 2016 season is some of the most incredible basketball i have ever seen in my life
It's even more impressive to me that he is 6'3 191lbs in a league that has long been dominated by lengthy above the rim players
Quote from: valkorum on May 12, 2016, 10:49:19 PM
Let's see if I can explain this properly.
Steph Curry is a fantastic player and deserves his multiple MPV awards
BUT
He does not deserve to be in conversations about the greatest top 10 players etc. He has been good for 3 seasons (4 at the most). He has been in the league for 7 seasons (maybe 8 - need to double check). He averaged 30pts this season (his first time at that mark). Jordan averaged that for his career... INCLUDING his 2 seasons at Washington.
More or less agree with this, I subscribe to the theory that you have to play at least 10 seasons before talking about career, all time discussions.
He's on track to be top 10 all time even if he regresses a little
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Quote from: plumdog millionaire on May 12, 2016, 04:29:31 PM
This Stephen guy does alright hey
He is soooooo overrated that's sarcastic font ;)
HANDCHECKING
Steph Clutch Curry has a nice ring to it :D
now he has to earn it. Still really has never had a series on the line or done much in a finals series.
Your Warriors pessimism is getting old
its not pessimism, Im more then happy for him to go beserk in the playoffs and the warriors win the title. Im just not crowning anything yet.
Im not saying he isnt clutch, im not saying he isnt great. Im just saying he hasnt proven it yet.
for the record i think he has a good chance of doing so in the coming weeks.
What does 'proven' mean when he's a two time MVP and favourite to win back to back titles...
I have been watching NBA for 26 seasons, seen countless hours of footage pre 1990
The Steph Curry 2016 season is some of the most incredible basketball i have ever seen in my life
It's even more impressive to me that he is 6'3 191lbs in a league that has long been dominated by lengthy above the rim players
Incredible yes, but the competition now does not compare to the competition in the 90's which is what makes MJ the GOAT hands down. He dominated ridiculously good players, not 1, but all of them.
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It's even more impressive to me that he is 6'3 191lbs in a league that has long been dominated by lengthy above the rim players
This is understated. Considering...
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He's on track to be top 10 all time even if he regresses a little
... who else is a legitimate contender for top 10-15 OAT at that height, let alone weight? Isaiah?
Surely Pop was trolling.. Anderson minutes in the first quarter, and GUARDING DURANT! Anderson is impossibly slow, he has no chance of sticking with KD for a second. Oh and Kevin Martin in too.. Whhyyy
Watching Thunder vs Spurs on ESPN, with my KD #35 jersey on. Hoping we can close this out and book a showdown with Curry and his Warriors
Some of these calls...
2 TO's in the first half between Westbrook and Durant…and they're winning, surprise, surprise.
This is brutal to watch and a brutal end for TD :(
Thunder are looking rather good, but the Spurs are looking ordinary
Assuming the thunder win, how much energy has been sapped from this series
What's with the Thunder stopping to a walk in the 4th.. 13 point game all of a sudden
:o
I personally don't think Duncan will retire, he'll go around 1 more time if it suits the team, if he needs to retire for Spurs to move forward then he'll retire.
Great win by the thunder! Awesome comeback in the series after the way it started
Hows David West feeling? Woulda made it further if he stayed with the Pacers! ;D
Great big humble pie for me after taking a lot of shower about the Thunder. Too quick, too big, too athletic. We didn't play the old Spurs game enough and couldn't match em head to head. Westbrook and KD went beast mode, had one off game between em. Congrats! I still hope KD leaves tho hahah
Too good, onto next year. Gotta fill out with some more athleticism around LMA + Kawhi. Ginobili + TD are probably done (god bless em), Parker should be playing 15-20 off the pine.
Timmy walking off the court was emotional :'(
have soo much respect for the spurs but the Thunder just match up great on them, young vibrant and can score at will.
They have 2 of the best 5 players in the NBA they are always a punches chance. I actually think they can take out the warriors if Ibaka does his job protecting the rim against curry.
Adams has looked real good and westbrook is dishing the ball with the best of them. Not sure the warriors can stop both of Durrant Westbrook.
OKC in 7.
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have soo much respect for the spurs but the Thunder just match up great on them, young vibrant and can score at will.
They have 2 of the best 5 players in the NBA they are always a punches chance. I actually think they can take out the warriors if Ibaka does his job protecting the rim against curry.
Adams has looked real good and westbrook is dishing the ball with the best of them. Not sure the warriors can stop both of Durrant Westbrook.
OKC in 7.
Just heard that OKC lead in the 4th in each of their 3 games against the Warriors. If they can close the games out and not choke then they are a chance
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Timmy walking off the court was emotional :'(
+13 on the night. Fought till the end!
I got a Tim Duncan jersey for my 8th birthday 12 years ago when I was an NBA Live nerd and followed the sport. I fell out of interest for a few too many years but I still own the jersey, and I still wear it. Love you so much TD. Spurs will never be the same without you!
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Timmy walking off the court was emotional :'(
+13 on the night. Fought till the end!
I got a Tim Duncan jersey for my 8th birthday 12 years ago when I was an NBA Live nerd and followed the sport. I fell out of interest for a few too many years but I still own the jersey, and I still wear it. Love you so much TD. Spurs will never be the same without you!
Must have been a well oversized jersey to still fit you now haha
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Timmy walking off the court was emotional :'(
+13 on the night. Fought till the end!
I got a Tim Duncan jersey for my 8th birthday 12 years ago when I was an NBA Live nerd and followed the sport. I fell out of interest for a few too many years but I still own the jersey, and I still wear it. Love you so much TD. Spurs will never be the same without you!
you fit in a a jersey from when you were 8?
Now I'm just picturing Chumps in a skin tight Jersey that looks like a crop top out in the back yard shooting hoops ;D
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Timmy walking off the court was emotional :'(
+13 on the night. Fought till the end!
I got a Tim Duncan jersey for my 8th birthday 12 years ago when I was an NBA Live nerd and followed the sport. I fell out of interest for a few too many years but I still own the jersey, and I still wear it. Love you so much TD. Spurs will never be the same without you!
Massive Duncan fan, not sure why Kobe gets so much more celebration. Duncan is in my top 5 best ever.
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Timmy walking off the court was emotional :'(
+13 on the night. Fought till the end!
I got a Tim Duncan jersey for my 8th birthday 12 years ago when I was an NBA Live nerd and followed the sport. I fell out of interest for a few too many years but I still own the jersey, and I still wear it. Love you so much TD. Spurs will never be the same without you!
Massive Duncan fan, not sure why Kobe gets so much more celebration. Duncan is in my top 5 best ever.
Because Kobe needs the celebration, Duncan has never needed it. Kobe to me isnt even in the same Tier as Duncan. The Dynasty of the Spurs is built on Duncan much like the patriots are built on Tom Brady.
I hope he goes around again next year.
Blow a team out by 40 then lose 4 of the next 5 games :o
I dont like the new Spurs offense but they have to commit to it now
If that is it for for Old Man Riverwalk i tip my cap to you Sir, a fine example of humility and greatness coexisting
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Timmy walking off the court was emotional :'(
+13 on the night. Fought till the end!
I got a Tim Duncan jersey for my 8th birthday 12 years ago when I was an NBA Live nerd and followed the sport. I fell out of interest for a few too many years but I still own the jersey, and I still wear it. Love you so much TD. Spurs will never be the same without you!
Massive Duncan fan, not sure why Kobe gets so much more celebration. Duncan is in my top 5 best ever.
Because Kobe needs the celebration, Duncan has never needed it. Kobe to me isnt even in the same Tier as Duncan. The Dynasty of the Spurs is built on Duncan much like the patriots are built on Tom Brady.
I hope he goes around again next year.
If Duncan does call it quits, both players really go out on the way they played throughout their careers. Kobe having to be the man and taking basically every shot in his final game. Timmy doing whats best for his team and getting on with it quietly. 2 living legends with such polarisingly opposite careers to get to legend status.
TD GPFOAT :-X
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Must have been a well oversized jersey to still fit you now haha
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you fit in a a jersey from when you were 8?
Hahaha, knew this would come up. Parents bought me a small mens jersey (forward thinkers) for my birthday and it still fits me, although its a bit tight and pretty out of shape. I'm not a huge guy - probably 5'10 on a good day and super skinny.
just watched a replay from today's draft camp. 2nd day is live at 5:00am aest on ESPN. Do you guys want it on here or do I start one up for 2016/17 season? Got a fair bit to say about it, no huge players but still interesting as always
It doesn't feel good with the other teams ready and waiting in the next round and we need 2 more wins...
This game is gonna get chippy real fast with the swallowed whistles
You need Whiteside back to win this series
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You need Whiteside back to win this series
Hopefully, he is day to day...
Sick of seeing Lowry and Derozan go left and elbow jumper, any chance we can force them right ffs ::)
Huzzah, force them right and they miss, what a concept
I'm rooting for the Raps but boy they are hard to watch... It's just 10-15 seconds of nothing and then a poorly run play for a DeRozan mid range shot... brick. Helps the Heat aren't much better, if at all
Their defence is pretty nice though, they have a few really good individual defensive players - Lowry, Carroll and Bismack, but Joseph and Norm are nice pieces off the bench.
Btw I like the Warriors in 7 in the WCF finals. Thoughts? (I know Holz has OKC in 4 :D)
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This is goin down to the wire
D-Wade's old man game is just beautiful.
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D-Wade's old man game is just beautiful.
Father Prime assumed the responsibility at the right time 8) bring on Gm7
Dropped $20 on Cavs for the title as I think OKC and Warriors will belt the living shower out of each other while Cavs will coast to the finals. Another $20 on the OKC/Dubs going to 7 games. Both paying $3.10.
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I'm rooting for the Raps but boy they are hard to watch... It's just 10-15 seconds of nothing and then a poorly run play for a DeRozan mid range shot... brick. Helps the Heat aren't much better, if at all
Their defence is pretty nice though, they have a few really good individual defensive players - Lowry, Carroll and Bismack, but Joseph and Norm are nice pieces off the bench.
Btw I like the Warriors in 7 in the WCF finals. Thoughts? (I know Holz has OKC in 4 :D)
I have thunder in 7 actually.
Warriors in 6.
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Warriors in 6.
actually i think that will happen but got to back in my pick.
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I'm rooting for the Raps but boy they are hard to watch... It's just 10-15 seconds of nothing and then a poorly run play for a DeRozan mid range shot... brick. Helps the Heat aren't much better, if at all
Their defence is pretty nice though, they have a few really good individual defensive players - Lowry, Carroll and Bismack, but Joseph and Norm are nice pieces off the bench.
Btw I like the Warriors in 7 in the WCF finals. Thoughts? (I know Holz has OKC in 4 :D)
I have thunder in 7 actually.
I would be surprised if Holz didn't have a GSW voodoo doll he sticks pins in ;D
Also, I'm on #HeatIsland tomorrow. Toronto will find a way to lose at home.
Warriors vs Thunder
LeBron vs Wade
We probably couldn't ask for better conference finals than that...
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Warriors in 6.
actually i think that will happen but got to back in my pick.
So what's your pick?
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Also, I'm on #HeatIsland tomorrow. Toronto will find a way to lose at home.
Warriors vs Thunder
LeBron vs Wade
We probably couldn't ask for better conference finals than that...
Shower i hope so, i really think there's a mental weakness in LeBron Wade
could exploit in a series
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Also, I'm on #HeatIsland tomorrow. Toronto will find a way to lose at home.
Warriors vs Thunder
LeBron vs Wade
We probably couldn't ask for better conference finals than that...
Shower i hope so, i really think there's a mental weakness in LeBron Wade could exploit in a series
Don't know if you guys listen to the Chris Mannix pod, but he's said in about 4 straight pods that if he were Wade he would bring up his friendship with LeBron at every opportunity. In interviews, social media, pre-game, mid-game, post-game, just to get under Kyrie and Love's skin. Which I find pretty funny if it happens hahaha
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Also, I'm on #HeatIsland tomorrow. Toronto will find a way to lose at home.
Warriors vs Thunder
LeBron vs Wade
We probably couldn't ask for better conference finals than that...
Shower i hope so, i really think there's a mental weakness in LeBron Wade could exploit in a series
Don't know if you guys listen to the Chris Mannix pod, but he's said in about 4 straight pods that if he were Wade he would bring up his friendship with LeBron at every opportunity. In interviews, social media, pre-game, mid-game, post-game, just to get under Kyrie and Love's skin. Which I find pretty funny if it happens hahaha
Wade has primarily been the alpha in their relationship, not in achievements but in life, if there is anyone that can unravel him mentally it's Father Prime, that siad no Whiteside game 7 :( it's gonna take someone else to get 20 odd to aid Wade's 30 odd and get us over the line
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Warriors in 6.
actually i think that will happen but got to back in my pick.
So what's your pick?
Thunder in 7. but thats a heart call more then it is a head.
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I'm rooting for the Raps but boy they are hard to watch... It's just 10-15 seconds of nothing and then a poorly run play for a DeRozan mid range shot... brick. Helps the Heat aren't much better, if at all
Their defence is pretty nice though, they have a few really good individual defensive players - Lowry, Carroll and Bismack, but Joseph and Norm are nice pieces off the bench.
Btw I like the Warriors in 7 in the WCF finals. Thoughts? (I know Holz has OKC in 4 :D)
I have thunder in 7 actually.
I would be surprised if Holz didn't have a GSW voodoo doll he sticks pins in ;D
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Warriors in 4
I need to have a rant, this is really frustrating me. People aren't happy that Steph is the only unanimous MVP in NBA history, which I understand. LBK, Shaq, KG and MJ all had seasons where they deserved to be unanimous. But that doesn't mean Steph didn't deserve it.
People saying that LeBron should have been MVP because he is the most VALUABLE is preposterous. The argument being made is that if you take LeBron off the Cavs, they suck, and if you take Steph off the Warriors, they'd be pretty good. This is what bugs me. If you take LeBron off the Cavs, they'd be a team with Kyrie Irving and Kevin Love in the eastern conference, those two players alone are better than anyone on the Celtics, who finished as the 5th seed in the east. They wouldn't become a 15-win team like the 2007-2010 Cavs would. If you take Steph off of the Warriors, yeah sure they'd still be pretty good, maybe a 5 seed? But with Steph, THEY WON 73 F'ING GAMES!!! Not enough is being made of being able to take an average playoff team, to the best team of all-time. Even if LeBron had a team of Kwame Brown's who he took to 55 wins, I'd still say Steph because the jump from being a 55 win team, to winning 73 is ridiculously large - I mean, no one has ever won 73 before this year!!
This season watching Steph has been like what I imagined watching MJ in the early 90s would be and I find it unbelievable how many people still don't realise this. Appreciate it, because he just put up a regular season as good as anyone in NBA history and I can't wait to see him make a bigger impact deep in the playoffs than what he did last year.
Agreed, Steph deserves the unanimous decision, he's done/doing some incredible things we've never seen on the court.
People have taken LBJ's comments and interpreted them their own way and run with it. Even Curry was a dickhead when asked about LBJ's comments saying he's "learnt not to listen". LBJ was taking about what valuable means in general terms and different interpretations of the term, and he also said that Curry was the best player this season and deserves MVP.
We blew it ::)
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Agreed, Steph deserves the unanimous decision, he's done/doing some incredible things we've never seen on the court.
People have taken LBJ's comments and interpreted them their own way and run with it. Even Curry was a dickhead when asked about LBJ's comments saying he's "learnt not to listen". LBJ was taking about what valuable means in general terms and different interpretations of the term, and he also said that Curry was the best player this season and deserves MVP.
I actually felt uncomfortable about what LBJ said, i didnt want to take it in the wrong context but it was odd and i left it there
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I need to have a rant, this is really frustrating me. People aren't happy that Steph is the only unanimous MVP in NBA history, which I understand. LBK, Shaq, KG and MJ all had seasons where they deserved to be unanimous. But that doesn't mean Steph didn't deserve it.
People saying that LeBron should have been MVP because he is the most VALUABLE is preposterous. The argument being made is that if you take LeBron off the Cavs, they suck, and if you take Steph off the Warriors, they'd be pretty good. This is what bugs me. If you take LeBron off the Cavs, they'd be a team with Kyrie Irving and Kevin Love in the eastern conference, those two players alone are better than anyone on the Celtics, who finished as the 5th seed in the east. They wouldn't become a 15-win team like the 2007-2010 Cavs would. If you take Steph off of the Warriors, yeah sure they'd still be pretty good, maybe a 5 seed? But with Steph, THEY WON 73 F'ING GAMES!!! Not enough is being made of being able to take an average playoff team, to the best team of all-time. Even if LeBron had a team of Kwame Brown's who he took to 55 wins, I'd still say Steph because the jump from being a 55 win team, to winning 73 is ridiculously large - I mean, no one has ever won 73 before this year!!
This season watching Steph has been like what I imagined watching MJ in the early 90s would be and I find it unbelievable how many people still don't realise this. Appreciate it, because he just put up a regular season as good as anyone in NBA history and I can't wait to see him make a bigger impact deep in the playoffs than what he did last year.
Be it people like those older players better or they just dont like Curry, fans try to protect or detract from greatness
I seen the MJ seasons in real time and they were great no doubt, Shaq's dominance in LA...
This season has been by far my favorite for 2 reasons other than the actual greatness of his season
1: At his size and game style he has revolutionized interest in basketball, people who liked basketball but were not physically gifted enough to play above the rim now believe that it can be done at the top level with hard work on skills and fundamentals (me)
2: Watching this season with my son and seeing the above impact it's had on him first hand, he doesn't want to dunk like MJ and the 90's basketball era made me, he wants to handle the ball well, he wants to work purely on shooting, he doesn't care for dunking at all.
Just going to talk some draft news
After the combine things I found out views are my own along with some help by ESPN
A few teams have Jaylen Brown(Cal) top 5. While others have him 15-20
Malachi Richardson(Syracuse) is around 20 in the big boards but keeps moving up. Wouldn't surprise me being 10-15 by draft day
Caris LeVert has more injuries than anyone I have seen in the last 2 years. Was top 10 once now late first round maybe second
Cheick Diallo(Kansas) Really raw didn't do much in college but was a top 10 high school player. Dominated the combine
Michael Gbinije(Syracuse) He is 24 but suits the NBA game style watch for him in the second round to light up the NBA
Melo Trimble(Maryland) Was Relton Roberts bad at the combine, will go back to College/D League or Europe
Caleb Swanigan(Purdue) Was big in college but inconsistent won't be drafted and should go back to College
Nigel Hayes(Louisville) Come up big in college but without playing in the tournament he decided to do the combine and wow was he bad. If he stays in college watch for him to be top 20 next year
Marcus Lee(Kansas) Tricky situation Kentucky were poorer than normal and have a good draft class. He needs to improve his stock to get drafted. Has talent but didn't get to show it much
Justin Jackson(North Carolina) Developed an outside shot but with Brice Johnson and Marcus Paige being North Carolina he should head back to school and watch him dominate next year. Very underrated.
Josh Hart(Villanova) Great college shooter with athleticism but struggled testing could go same as Jackson but I want him to stay back. He is good for the game of College basketball.
Demetrius Jackson(Notre Dame) Point guard had the second highest vertical leap (with run up) can shoot but is a poor man's Kemba Walker.
Robert Carter(Maryland) Can look like Korver from behind the 3 point line then can air ball his next 3 shots. Not really athletic but quick. I really like him but struggles at times. Could go second round.
Niang(Iowa State), Ellis(Kansas), Paige(North Carolina) Been the spirit of College basketball over the last 4 years don't seem to ever reach NBA level sadly
Denzel Valentine(Michigan State) Was the highest draft prospect at the combine. Didn't shine but didn't disappoint
Malcolm Brogdon(Virginia) Lights out shooting in the 5-5 which should get him drafted. Fancy him a lot
Ben Simmons, Brandon Ingram, Jamal Murray, Kris Dunn, Buddy Hield, Henry Ellenson, Jakob Poeltl, Jaylen Brown, Skal Labissiere, Deyonta Davis, Malik Beasley, Anthony Barber (injury), LeVert (injury), and Selden (injury) all didn't test as per normal for most top draft prospects
From what I have seen it still looks like
1. Ben Simmons
2. Brandon Ingram
3. Dragon Bender(International)
4. Buddy Hield
Just have to wait til Wednesday (our time) for the lottery to be drawn. Best outcome for me is Sixers get 1st pick, Kings get 2nd pick. Sixers take Ingram, Kings take Simmons (as SF)
Did you hear how Thon Maker went, Griff?
I'm so excited for the lottery! Does anyone know if it will be on NBA TV?
Pacers to promote Nate McMillan to head coach
Dragan Bender might be the GOAT name
Quote from: Jay on May 16, 2016, 02:36:50 PM
Did you hear how Thon Maker went, Griff?
I'm so excited for the lottery! Does anyone know if it will be on NBA TV?
He sat out the 5-5 in my opinion that was good for his stocks sitting out as he tested well. Playing against College players in the 5-5 I believe would have made him struggle very different style in the games at the draft combine
His athleticism surprised NBA scouts
Maximum Vertical Leap: 36.5’
Standing Vertical Leap: 32’
Lane Agility Time: 11.5 seconds
Three Quarter Sprint: 3.33 seconds
Shuttle Run: 3.09 seconds
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Dragan Bender might be the GOAT name
Yeah I love it best name I have seen in a while wish it was actually Dragon but Dragan is close enough
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Quote from: Jay on May 16, 2016, 02:36:50 PM
Did you hear how Thon Maker went, Griff?
I'm so excited for the lottery! Does anyone know if it will be on NBA TV?
He sat out the 5-5 in my opinion that was good for his stocks sitting out as he tested well. Playing against College players in the 5-5 I believe would have made him struggle very different style in the games at the draft combine
His athleticism surprised NBA scouts
Maximum Vertical Leap: 36.5’
Standing Vertical Leap: 32’
Lane Agility Time: 11.5 seconds
Three Quarter Sprint: 3.33 seconds
Shuttle Run: 3.09 seconds
Very interesting. Where do you see his draft range? Boston's non-lottery picks are 16 and 23. 16 I feel 16 is too high, but maybe I'd take the punt at 23!
Quote from: Jay on May 16, 2016, 02:36:50 PM
I'm so excited for the lottery! Does anyone know if it will be on NBA TV?
Halftime on ESPN game 1 of the WCF i believe
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Did you hear how Thon Maker went, Griff?
I'm so excited for the lottery! Does anyone know if it will be on NBA TV?
He sat out the 5-5 in my opinion that was good for his stocks sitting out as he tested well. Playing against College players in the 5-5 I believe would have made him struggle very different style in the games at the draft combine
His athleticism surprised NBA scouts
Maximum Vertical Leap: 36.5’
Standing Vertical Leap: 32’
Lane Agility Time: 11.5 seconds
Three Quarter Sprint: 3.33 seconds
Shuttle Run: 3.09 seconds
Very interesting. Where do you see his draft range? Boston's non-lottery picks are 16 and 23. 16 I feel 16 is too high, but maybe I'd take the punt at 23!
I reckon worth the 16 your in a postion where you need to take a risk to attract stars in my opinion. You can pick up a solid pick with your first pick, take the punt on the second and take another safe pick with 23.
I'm not a huge fan of Maker but 15 would be the earliest I'd want to take him. So yeah mid to late first round
I just wanna see where Ben Simmons ends up
Still another 24 hours til the lottery and Kings get the #2 pick ;)
I'm trying not to get my hopes up... But how should I celebrate when Boston gets the first pick? We've had enough bad luck in the lottery over the years - we're due!! Ben Simmons!!
Quote from: Jay on May 17, 2016, 12:02:42 PM
I'm trying not to get my hopes up... But how should I celebrate when Boston gets the first pick? We've had enough bad luck in the lottery over the years - we're due!! Ben Simmons!!
im not sure how people will celebrate in 2067 when you get pick 1 :P
Warriors are dominating us atm. Far too many turnovers
What's the best scenario for Simmons? Where does he prosper?
Also Warriors in 5
I'll follow whichever team Simmons ends up at
Quote from: Cookie311993 on May 17, 2016, 01:11:56 PM
I'll follow whichever team Simmons ends up at
Haha, I'll definitely be paying A LOT more attention to whichever team he ends up at.
Part of me is praying that it's not the Lakers, but I also think it'd be pretty fkn cool to see a young Aussie at the biggest team in the league.
Quote from: Jay on May 15, 2016, 11:15:43 PM
I need to have a rant, this is really frustrating me. People aren't happy that Steph is the only unanimous MVP in NBA history, which I understand. LBK, Shaq, KG and MJ all had seasons where they deserved to be unanimous. But that doesn't mean Steph didn't deserve it.
People saying that LeBron should have been MVP because he is the most VALUABLE is preposterous. The argument being made is that if you take LeBron off the Cavs, they suck, and if you take Steph off the Warriors, they'd be pretty good. This is what bugs me. If you take LeBron off the Cavs, they'd be a team with Kyrie Irving and Kevin Love in the eastern conference, those two players alone are better than anyone on the Celtics, who finished as the 5th seed in the east. They wouldn't become a 15-win team like the 2007-2010 Cavs would. If you take Steph off of the Warriors, yeah sure they'd still be pretty good, maybe a 5 seed? But with Steph, THEY WON 73 F'ING GAMES!!! Not enough is being made of being able to take an average playoff team, to the best team of all-time. Even if LeBron had a team of Kwame Brown's who he took to 55 wins, I'd still say Steph because the jump from being a 55 win team, to winning 73 is ridiculously large - I mean, no one has ever won 73 before this year!!
This season watching Steph has been like what I imagined watching MJ in the early 90s would be and I find it unbelievable how many people still don't realise this. Appreciate it, because he just put up a regular season as good as anyone in NBA history and I can't wait to see him make a bigger impact deep in the playoffs than what he did last year.
Agree dude.
To me, the argument that 'GS are stacked' lost all validity after they Portland series. They were lucky to go 2-1 up and then they needed Steph to bail them out in game 4. Portland would've really tested them that series without Curry, and Portland probably wouldn't have even been there if not for CP3 + Blake's injuries.
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Quote from: Cookie311993 on May 17, 2016, 01:11:56 PM
I'll follow whichever team Simmons ends up at
Haha, I'll definitely be paying A LOT more attention to whichever team he ends up at.
Part of me is praying that it's not the Lakers, but I also think it'd be pretty fkn cool to see a young Aussie at the biggest team in the league.
Especially if he goes #1 to them. That would be big for Aussie basketball. An Aussie #1 pick going to the biggest team in the Nba
Hopefully the Thunder can hold onto this 4th quarter lead unlike in the past 3 encounters with the Warriors
Can OKC hold on
Manage to pick up the win and go 1-0 up. Based on game 1, should be a good series
what I loved was an all round peformance
Durrant only went 33% with 26 and 10
Ibaka 11 points 11 rebounds
Adams 16 points 12 rebounds
Westbrook also 33% with 27 and 12 assists
the good thing is Durrant and Westbrook actually can be quite abit more efficient next game.
Reckon the difference was OKC's turnovers and defence cleaning it up in the 2nd half.
1st Half 2nd Half
OKC TO's 10 1
GSW FG 51% 36%
GSW Assists 18 8
Two promising signs for the Warriors (Early):
Only -2 on the offensive boards which was meant to be a major indicator going into the matchup
Seemed to get the better shots overall - If that trend continues they should still be the most likely to win
All that being said this has the makings of an all time classic series, really hope it goes to seven as a neutral fan!
Quote from: plumdog millionaire on May 17, 2016, 04:28:07 PM
Reckon the difference was OKC's turnovers and defence cleaning it up in the 2nd half.
1st Half 2nd Half
OKC TO's 10 1
GSW FG 51% 36%
GSW Assists 18 8
Two promising signs for the Warriors (Early):
Only -2 on the offensive boards which was meant to be a major indicator going into the matchup
Seemed to get the better shots overall - If that trend continues they should still be the most likely to win
All that being said this has the makings of an all time classic series, really hope it goes to seven as a neutral fan!
its tough to say if thats positive or negative.
If you look at it through Thunder Glasses (which I am) , they didnt get many offensive Boards and still won. What happens if they start getting them.
We clean things up and Russ finds his groove and we score 38 in the 3rd
Quote from: Holz on May 17, 2016, 04:47:06 PM
Quote from: plumdog millionaire on May 17, 2016, 04:28:07 PM
Reckon the difference was OKC's turnovers and defence cleaning it up in the 2nd half.
1st Half 2nd Half
OKC TO's 10 1
GSW FG 51% 36%
GSW Assists 18 8
Two promising signs for the Warriors (Early):
Only -2 on the offensive boards which was meant to be a major indicator going into the matchup
Seemed to get the better shots overall - If that trend continues they should still be the most likely to win
All that being said this has the makings of an all time classic series, really hope it goes to seven as a neutral fan!
its tough to say if thats positive or negative.
If you look at it through Thunder Glasses (which I am) , they didnt get many offensive Boards and still won. What happens if they start getting them.
It's promising. The fact they didn't get hammered on OREB's is a good thing, and the Warriors probably set out to do that.
You can play that game with anything man, what happens if Westbrook/KD shoot 40%+, what happens if OKC turn the ball over at a reasonable rate, what happens if the Warriors shoot 45%+ in a whole game. They're all interesting trends to monitor over the series and we'll see which one makes the major narrative.
KD and Russ go 17-51 and still get the win. Crazy.
Managed to get through the whole day without any spoilers and just finished watching it. I keep saying it, keep the TO's down and OKC win ball games, they need to take the ball off Durant for handling duties, he just seems to lose it over and over trying to be too tricky. Thought Warriors played a fairly bad game, so it's still their series to lose, but good start from OKC, Roberson is got a whole lot of confidence from the final game of the Spurs series and think he's going to make a massive difference in defense and the 1%ers.
Totally missed game 1 :( #waveswerepumping
I hope the Lakers lose there pick, they have had history of success, suffer a little longer :P
http://basketball.realgm.com/wiretap/241922/Lakers-Expected-To-Trade-Pick-If-It-Falls-To-No-3
REALGM are saying that if the Lakers fall to #3 they will look to trade their pick. So if they get #3 or #4 they will trade, if they fall to #5 it goes to 76'ers
Quote from: valkorum on May 18, 2016, 10:35:20 AM
http://basketball.realgm.com/wiretap/241922/Lakers-Expected-To-Trade-Pick-If-It-Falls-To-No-3
REALGM are saying that if the Lakers fall to #3 they will look to trade their pick. So if they get #3 or #4 they will trade, if they fall to #5 it goes to 76'ers
they wont even get the pick if they fall to 4
I'd rather see it go to Philly, they've been suffering for a long time and could do with some hope
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Quote from: valkorum on May 18, 2016, 10:35:20 AM
http://basketball.realgm.com/wiretap/241922/Lakers-Expected-To-Trade-Pick-If-It-Falls-To-No-3
REALGM are saying that if the Lakers fall to #3 they will look to trade their pick. So if they get #3 or #4 they will trade, if they fall to #5 it goes to 76'ers
they wont even get the pick if they fall to 4
I'd rather see it go to Philly, they've been suffering for a long time and could do with some hope
its a shallow draft though lakers getting 3 is the worst case for them. As someone who wants to see philly do good i think not getting a pick this year would be the best case. I just hope for their sake they get a top 2 pick as they need simmons or ingram. They really really need simmons.
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Quote from: valkorum on May 18, 2016, 10:35:20 AM
http://basketball.realgm.com/wiretap/241922/Lakers-Expected-To-Trade-Pick-If-It-Falls-To-No-3
REALGM are saying that if the Lakers fall to #3 they will look to trade their pick. So if they get #3 or #4 they will trade, if they fall to #5 it goes to 76'ers
they wont even get the pick if they fall to 4
I'd rather see it go to Philly, they've been suffering for a long time and could do with some hope
its a shallow draft though lakers getting 3 is the worst case for them. As someone who wants to see philly do good i think not getting a pick this year would be the best case. I just hope for their sake they get a top 2 pick as they need simmons or ingram. They really really need simmons.
well LA keep it, hopefully Sixers go number 1
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Quote from: valkorum on May 18, 2016, 10:35:20 AM
http://basketball.realgm.com/wiretap/241922/Lakers-Expected-To-Trade-Pick-If-It-Falls-To-No-3
REALGM are saying that if the Lakers fall to #3 they will look to trade their pick. So if they get #3 or #4 they will trade, if they fall to #5 it goes to 76'ers
they wont even get the pick if they fall to 4
I'd rather see it go to Philly, they've been suffering for a long time and could do with some hope
its a shallow draft though lakers getting 3 is the worst case for them. As someone who wants to see philly do good i think not getting a pick this year would be the best case. I just hope for their sake they get a top 2 pick as they need simmons or ingram. They really really need simmons.
well LA keep it, hopefully Sixers go number 1
yay philly, boston got stiffed
BORING
Brett Brown is a boss though
Draft Lottery Results
#14 - Bulls
#13 - Suns
#12 - Jazz
#11 - Magic
#10 - Bucks
#9 - Raptors
#8 - Kings
#7 - Nuggets
#6 - Pelicans
#5 - Timberwolves
#4 - Suns
#3 - Celtics
#2 - Lakers
#1 - 76'ers
Not a single change in the draft order - BORING
Ingram to Phily ;)
Quote from: R.Griffen on May 18, 2016, 11:31:46 AM
Ingram to Phily ;)
Simmons
Australian connection, plus all the 76's point guards suck so may as well take the best distributor in the draft
Quote from: RiOtChEsS on May 18, 2016, 11:35:41 AM
Quote from: R.Griffen on May 18, 2016, 11:31:46 AM
Ingram to Phily ;)
Simmons
Australian connection, plus all the 76's point guards suck so may as well take the best distributor in the draft
I just don't like Simmons. He can't shoot like his jump shot is awful
Quote from: R.Griffen on May 18, 2016, 11:38:02 AM
Quote from: RiOtChEsS on May 18, 2016, 11:35:41 AM
Quote from: R.Griffen on May 18, 2016, 11:31:46 AM
Ingram to Phily ;)
Simmons
Australian connection, plus all the 76's point guards suck so may as well take the best distributor in the draft
I just don't like Simmons. He can't shoot like his jump shot is awful
He is the best fit for them, an instant mismatch for any defender and a playmaker that will create better shots for the others
Shooting is something that will improve with better coaching and it's not like he cant score
Impressed with how the Raptors are approaching this, getting good looks
Cavs are and can be scratchy yet still hang around though which is concerning
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Quote from: R.Griffen on May 18, 2016, 11:31:46 AM
Ingram to Phily ;)
Simmons
Australian connection, plus all the 76's point guards suck so may as well take the best distributor in the draft
I just don't like Simmons. He can't shoot like his jump shot is awful
You don't know if he can shoot or not - he never took any.
Blatantly obvious the Raps are gonna have to double Kyrie, that iso is killing them
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Quote from: RiOtChEsS on May 18, 2016, 11:35:41 AM
Quote from: R.Griffen on May 18, 2016, 11:31:46 AM
Ingram to Phily ;)
Simmons
Australian connection, plus all the 76's point guards suck so may as well take the best distributor in the draft
I just don't like Simmons. He can't shoot like his jump shot is awful
I dont think they can go worng with this pick. they need a SF or a PG.
same for the lakers.
Celtics is the team in trouble, they could have really used one of the two.
You don't know if he can shoot or not - he never took any.
Bloody Hell Kyle Lowry is gonna have to play every minute just for Toronto to get good looks, Joseph is awful
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Quote from: Holz on May 18, 2016, 12:05:08 PM
Quote from: valkorum on May 18, 2016, 11:55:37 AM
Quote from: R.Griffen on May 18, 2016, 11:38:02 AM
Quote from: RiOtChEsS on May 18, 2016, 11:35:41 AM
Quote from: R.Griffen on May 18, 2016, 11:31:46 AM
Ingram to Phily ;)
Simmons
Australian connection, plus all the 76's point guards suck so may as well take the best distributor in the draft
I just don't like Simmons. He can't shoot like his jump shot is awful
I dont think they can go worng with this pick. they need a SF or a PG.
same for the lakers.
Celtics is the team in trouble, they could have really used one of the two.
You don't know if he can shoot or not - he never took any.
Yeah I know he hardly shot but when he did it wasn't pretty. His shooing will get better and is a better alround player. I wasn't a huge fan of Ingram either until late in the year he started making big shots. I just feel like 76's needed someone like Ingram but every other team I would tell them to take Simmons
Get the brooms out, Cavs!
Didn't watch Lakers much this year. I always thought of Russell as a SG but played PG in college due to Ohio State not being good. Was he as bad as people were saying?
Quote from: R.Griffen on May 18, 2016, 12:49:43 PM
Didn't watch Lakers much this year. I always thought of Russell as a SG but played PG in college due to Ohio State not being good. Was he as bad as people were saying?
I thought he was actually really good.
Quote from: Jay on May 18, 2016, 01:13:56 PM
Quote from: R.Griffen on May 18, 2016, 12:49:43 PM
Didn't watch Lakers much this year. I always thought of Russell as a SG but played PG in college due to Ohio State not being good. Was he as bad as people were saying?
I thought he was actually really good.
Okay just all the lakers supporters I asked didn't. I assume he played the point?
Quote from: R.Griffen on May 18, 2016, 12:47:03 PM
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Quote from: valkorum on May 18, 2016, 11:55:37 AM
Quote from: R.Griffen on May 18, 2016, 11:38:02 AM
Quote from: RiOtChEsS on May 18, 2016, 11:35:41 AM
Quote from: R.Griffen on May 18, 2016, 11:31:46 AM
Ingram to Phily ;)
Simmons
Australian connection, plus all the 76's point guards suck so may as well take the best distributor in the draft
I just don't like Simmons. He can't shoot like his jump shot is awful
I dont think they can go worng with this pick. they need a SF or a PG.
same for the lakers.
Celtics is the team in trouble, they could have really used one of the two.
You don't know if he can shoot or not - he never took any.
Yeah I know he hardly shot but when he did it wasn't pretty. His shooing will get better and is a better alround player. I wasn't a huge fan of Ingram either until late in the year he started making big shots. I just feel like 76's needed someone like Ingram but every other team I would tell them to take Simmons
Thing is Simmons will make the 76's shoot first guards better with his skill set, makes everyone better basically
Ingram will just be a talented shooter on a bad team with "still" nobody to distribute, that wont make the 76's better
Ingram fits the need so it will be interesting to see how they go. They have so many 4/5's and lack shooters
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Quote from: R.Griffen on May 18, 2016, 12:49:43 PM
Didn't watch Lakers much this year. I always thought of Russell as a SG but played PG in college due to Ohio State not being good. Was he as bad as people were saying?
I thought he was actually really good.
Okay just all the lakers supporters I asked didn't. I assume he played the point?
He has some arrogance and selfishness about his play which Byron Scott would bench him for
I expect the next coach will have instructions to give him all the minutes he can handle, giving us a clearer picture of him next season
Quote from: Mat0369 on May 18, 2016, 02:14:07 PM
Ingram fits the need so it will be interesting to see how they go. They have so many 4/5's and lack shooters
Surely u prefer Simmons?
Look how well bench players on the Cavs and Warriors shoot with LeBron and Draymond distributing and filling multiple holes
Simmons is the guy that free agents will look at and say i wanna play with that guy, he will get me clean looks
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Quote from: Mat0369 on May 18, 2016, 02:14:07 PM
Ingram fits the need so it will be interesting to see how they go. They have so many 4/5's and lack shooters
Surely u prefer Simmons?
Look how well bench players on the Cavs and Warriors shoot with LeBron and Draymond distributing and filling multiple holes
Simmons is the guy that free agents will look at and say i wanna play with that guy, he will get me clean looks
exactly the reason why Lebron is still the best player in my books is that he makes everyone else have better shots being the best passer in the league. If you can find a poor man's Lebron then you have to go for it. If someone could pass to their bigs then there offence would run much smoother. They still have plenty of picks and guys they can trade for a shooter.
Saric is coming in and the guy is a decent shot and can play small ball 4.
They really need to trade Okafur or Noel though. As much as i love Okafor i would move him on and they should get something decent for him.
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Quote from: RiOtChEsS on May 18, 2016, 02:24:52 PM
Quote from: Mat0369 on May 18, 2016, 02:14:07 PM
Ingram fits the need so it will be interesting to see how they go. They have so many 4/5's and lack shooters
Surely u prefer Simmons?
Look how well bench players on the Cavs and Warriors shoot with LeBron and Draymond distributing and filling multiple holes
Simmons is the guy that free agents will look at and say i wanna play with that guy, he will get me clean looks
exactly the reason why Lebron is still the best player in my books is that he makes everyone else have better shots being the best passer in the league. If you can find a poor man's Lebron then you have to go for it. If someone could pass to their bigs then there offence would run much smoother. They still have plenty of picks and guys they can trade for a shooter.
Saric is coming in and the guy is a decent shot and can play small ball 4.
They really need to trade Okafur or Noel though. As much as i love Okafor i would move him on and they should get something decent for him.
I'd rather Okafor over Noel
Quote from: R.Griffen on May 18, 2016, 03:05:00 PM
Quote from: Holz on May 18, 2016, 02:56:30 PM
Quote from: RiOtChEsS on May 18, 2016, 02:24:52 PM
Quote from: Mat0369 on May 18, 2016, 02:14:07 PM
Ingram fits the need so it will be interesting to see how they go. They have so many 4/5's and lack shooters
Surely u prefer Simmons?
Look how well bench players on the Cavs and Warriors shoot with LeBron and Draymond distributing and filling multiple holes
Simmons is the guy that free agents will look at and say i wanna play with that guy, he will get me clean looks
exactly the reason why Lebron is still the best player in my books is that he makes everyone else have better shots being the best passer in the league. If you can find a poor man's Lebron then you have to go for it. If someone could pass to their bigs then there offence would run much smoother. They still have plenty of picks and guys they can trade for a shooter.
Saric is coming in and the guy is a decent shot and can play small ball 4.
They really need to trade Okafur or Noel though. As much as i love Okafor i would move him on and they should get something decent for him.
I'd rather Okafor over Noel
agree.
however if Embiid is healthy do you go Embiid/Okafor or Noel/Embiid. Noel is great on the defensive end.
Saric is also a PF.
they need guards and small forwards.
Quote from: Holz on May 18, 2016, 03:17:29 PM
Quote from: R.Griffen on May 18, 2016, 03:05:00 PM
Quote from: Holz on May 18, 2016, 02:56:30 PM
Quote from: RiOtChEsS on May 18, 2016, 02:24:52 PM
Quote from: Mat0369 on May 18, 2016, 02:14:07 PM
Ingram fits the need so it will be interesting to see how they go. They have so many 4/5's and lack shooters
Surely u prefer Simmons?
Look how well bench players on the Cavs and Warriors shoot with LeBron and Draymond distributing and filling multiple holes
Simmons is the guy that free agents will look at and say i wanna play with that guy, he will get me clean looks
exactly the reason why Lebron is still the best player in my books is that he makes everyone else have better shots being the best passer in the league. If you can find a poor man's Lebron then you have to go for it. If someone could pass to their bigs then there offence would run much smoother. They still have plenty of picks and guys they can trade for a shooter.
Saric is coming in and the guy is a decent shot and can play small ball 4.
They really need to trade Okafur or Noel though. As much as i love Okafor i would move him on and they should get something decent for him.
I'd rather Okafor over Noel
agree.
however if Embiid is healthy do you go Embiid/Okafor or Noel/Embiid. Noel is great on the defensive end.
Saric is also a PF.
they need guards and small forwards.
It's a huge if, but IF Embiid is gonna be good to go i would move Noel, Embiid/Okafor is a better duo than Embiid/Noel imo
They need an engine, BS will make Canaan, Stauskas and Covington shoot more efficiently with his drive and kick game
Ingram needs to be on a team where there already is a solid PG so they elevate each others games (not sure LA is ideal)
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Quote from: RiOtChEsS on May 18, 2016, 02:24:52 PM
Quote from: Mat0369 on May 18, 2016, 02:14:07 PM
Ingram fits the need so it will be interesting to see how they go. They have so many 4/5's and lack shooters
Surely u prefer Simmons?
Look how well bench players on the Cavs and Warriors shoot with LeBron and Draymond distributing and filling multiple holes
Simmons is the guy that free agents will look at and say i wanna play with that guy, he will get me clean looks
exactly the reason why Lebron is still the best player in my books is that he makes everyone else have better shots being the best passer in the league. If you can find a poor man's Lebron then you have to go for it. If someone could pass to their bigs then there offence would run much smoother. They still have plenty of picks and guys they can trade for a shooter.
Saric is coming in and the guy is a decent shot and can play small ball 4.
They really need to trade Okafur or Noel though. As much as i love Okafor i would move him on and they should get something decent for him.
I'd rather Okafor over Noel
agree.
however if Embiid is healthy do you go Embiid/Okafor or Noel/Embiid. Noel is great on the defensive end.
Saric is also a PF.
they need guards and small forwards.
It's a huge if, but IF Embiid is gonna be good to go i would move Noel, Embiid/Okafor is a better duo than Embiid/Noel imo
They need an engine, BS will make Canaan, Stauskas and Covington shoot more efficiently with his drive and kick game
Ingram needs to be on a team where there already is a solid PG so they elevate each others games (not sure LA is ideal)
sadly Boston is ideal for Ingram.
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Quote from: Mat0369 on May 18, 2016, 02:14:07 PM
Ingram fits the need so it will be interesting to see how they go. They have so many 4/5's and lack shooters
Surely u prefer Simmons?
Look how well bench players on the Cavs and Warriors shoot with LeBron and Draymond distributing and filling multiple holes
Simmons is the guy that free agents will look at and say i wanna play with that guy, he will get me clean looks
exactly the reason why Lebron is still the best player in my books is that he makes everyone else have better shots being the best passer in the league. If you can find a poor man's Lebron then you have to go for it. If someone could pass to their bigs then there offence would run much smoother. They still have plenty of picks and guys they can trade for a shooter.
Saric is coming in and the guy is a decent shot and can play small ball 4.
They really need to trade Okafur or Noel though. As much as i love Okafor i would move him on and they should get something decent for him.
I'd rather Okafor over Noel
agree.
however if Embiid is healthy do you go Embiid/Okafor or Noel/Embiid. Noel is great on the defensive end.
Saric is also a PF.
they need guards and small forwards.
It's a huge if, but IF Embiid is gonna be good to go i would move Noel, Embiid/Okafor is a better duo than Embiid/Noel imo
They need an engine, BS will make Canaan, Stauskas and Covington shoot more efficiently with his drive and kick game
Ingram needs to be on a team where there already is a solid PG so they elevate each others games (not sure LA is ideal)
sadly Boston is ideal for Ingram.
I'd take ____ if i was the ____ and had the number 1 pick
76's: Simmons
Lakers: Simmons
Celtics: Simmons
Suns: Simmons
Minnesota: Ingram
NOLA: Ingram
Denver: Simmons
Kings: Ingram
Toronto: Ingram
Bucks: Simmons
I'd take ____ if i was the ____ and had the number 1 pick
76's: Simmons
Lakers: Simmons
Celtics: Simmons
Suns: Simmons
Minnesota: Ingram
NOLA: Ingram
Denver: Simmons
Kings: Hield
Toronto: Ingram
Bucks: Simmons
why would the bucks take simmons they have antetokounmpo
I'd take ____ if i was the ____ and had the number 1 pick
76's: Ingram
Lakers: Simmons
Celtics: Simmons
Suns: Bender
Minnesota: Ingram
NOLA: Simmons
Denver: Simmons
Kings: Ingram
Toronto: Bender
Bucks: Simmons
Quote from: valkorum on May 18, 2016, 05:40:19 PM
I'd take ____ if i was the ____ and had the number 1 pick
76's: Simmons
Lakers: Simmons
Celtics: Simmons
Suns: Simmons
Minnesota: Ingram
NOLA: Ingram
Denver: Simmons
Kings: Hield Stauskas?
Toronto: Ingram
Bucks: Simmons
FTFY
Quote from: plumdog millionaire on May 18, 2016, 05:57:46 PM
Quote from: valkorum on May 18, 2016, 05:40:19 PM
I'd take ____ if i was the ____ and had the number 1 pick
76's: Simmons
Lakers: Simmons
Celtics: Simmons
Suns: Simmons
Minnesota: Ingram
NOLA: Ingram
Denver: Simmons
Kings: Hield Stauskas?
Toronto: Ingram
Bucks: Simmons
FTFY
Nah, we only draft him with pick #8
I'd take Ingram #1 but I'm biased
I'm going to start watching some tape on these guys, but from the limited stuff I've seen and heard, I'd take Simmmons first no matter what.
Also, poor Sam Hinkie. They finally get some lottery luck and he isn't there for reasons which are ridiculous. He should get 100% of the credit if this team ever ends up good.
@Griff, what can you tell me about Domantas Sabonis? Big man out of Gonzaga. Haven't heard of him before, but nbadraft have him at 8 on their big board..
Quote from: Holz on May 18, 2016, 05:48:22 PM
why would the bucks take simmons they have antetokounmpo
I think that could be a deadly duo, they would fit beautifully, imagine playing this lineup
C: Monroe
PF: Antetokounmpo
SF: Parker
SG: Middleton
PG: Simmons
Apart from the 5 most of those positions are fluid, it's a matchup nightmare in pick and roll or post up situations, it's not a starting lineup but being able to run that would guarantee you're going to get a longer guy shooting over a smaller guy in every situation, you have 2 excellent shooters in Middleton and Parker and 2 excellent passers that are "point forwards"
http://basketball.realgm.com/wiretap/241942/76ers-Leaning-Toward-Selecting-Ben-Simmons-First-Overall
76'ers keen on Simmons
Quote from: Jay on May 18, 2016, 07:32:40 PM
I'm going to start watching some tape on these guys, but from the limited stuff I've seen and heard, I'd take Simmmons first no matter what.
Also, poor Sam Hinkie. They finally get some lottery luck and he isn't there for reasons which are ridiculous. He should get 100% of the credit if this team ever ends up good.
yep Hinkie did a great job.
Saric is coming back, I bet Embiid gets healthy. They could play playoffs in 2 years and people will give all the credit to the new guy.
Dont they have like 2 first rounders next year?
Surely they could try to package like Noel + lakers first rounder for something good.
Knicks hire Jeff Horny Hornacek
https://twitter.com/HowardBeck/status/733079407607353345
Decent hire! Not sure what happened to hiring a triangle coach though?
KD is locked in
12 points in 1:22. Your NBA MVP.
Two best shooters in the game going at it, amazing
Edit: 15 in 1:58
Looks like GSW arent happy about losing game 1.
Quote from: Jay on May 18, 2016, 10:56:23 PM
@Griff, what can you tell me about Domantas Sabonis? Big man out of Gonzaga. Haven't heard of him before, but nbadraft have him at 8 on their big board..
Gonzaga were poor this year but he was definitely a shining light. Was a double double machine, very good finisher with good efficiency. Defence was poor from what I can remember but he certainly has the size to be a shot blocker. He started shooting more and the end of the year, so he could develop a jump shot. I have him inside my top 10 plus look for him to add so numbers on offence in his rookie year
The things I'd do to Steph Curry... Got so hot in the third there.
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Quote from: Jay on May 18, 2016, 07:32:40 PM
I'm going to start watching some tape on these guys, but from the limited stuff I've seen and heard, I'd take Simmmons first no matter what.
Also, poor Sam Hinkie. They finally get some lottery luck and he isn't there for reasons which are ridiculous. He should get 100% of the credit if this team ever ends up good.
yep Hinkie did a great job.
Saric is coming back, I bet Embiid gets healthy. They could play playoffs in 2 years and people will give all the credit to the new guy.
Dont they have like 2 first rounders next year?
Surely they could try to package like Noel + lakers first rounder for something good.
so what was the wash-up re Hinkie in the end?? Did he get 'pushed aside' so he left or simply turfed out??
I agree with Marcz, 76ers should just take Simmons and he plays 'point fwd' but in the 'position-less' NBA where it seems to be heading for the near-to-medium term future, he could do this in the PG spot - why not??
he's not Magic but Johnson was 6ft8in as a PG - Giannis has been played as PG and isn't he 6ft11in??
so 2 smalls as shooters, 2 bigs and then Simmons distributing as point-fwd - imagine him on the break?? :o ;)
having said that, Ingram could spread the floor for the bigs with his shooting??
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Quote from: Holz on May 19, 2016, 10:37:21 AM
Quote from: Jay on May 18, 2016, 07:32:40 PM
I'm going to start watching some tape on these guys, but from the limited stuff I've seen and heard, I'd take Simmmons first no matter what.
Also, poor Sam Hinkie. They finally get some lottery luck and he isn't there for reasons which are ridiculous. He should get 100% of the credit if this team ever ends up good.
yep Hinkie did a great job.
Saric is coming back, I bet Embiid gets healthy. They could play playoffs in 2 years and people will give all the credit to the new guy.
Dont they have like 2 first rounders next year?
Surely they could try to package like Noel + lakers first rounder for something good.
so what was the wash-up re Hinkie in the end?? Did he get 'pushed aside' so he left or simply turfed out??
I agree with Marcz, 76ers should just take Simmons and he plays 'point fwd' but in the 'position-less' NBA where it seems to be heading for the near-to-medium term future, he could do this in the PG spot - why not??
he's not Magic but Johnson was 6ft8in as a PG - Giannis has been played as PG and isn't he 6ft11in??
so 2 smalls as shooters, 2 bigs and then Simmons distributing as point-fwd - imagine him on the break?? :o ;)
having said that, Ingram could spread the floor for the bigs with his shooting??
Pretty sure he and the owner fell out...
My theory is if you put both on that team one makes it a lot better, the other loses efficiency to make it slightly better...
Bill Simmons told the Toucher and Rich radio show in Boston that he believes Boston will trade pick #3 for Jahlil Okafor
and..... go....
Quote from: valkorum on May 20, 2016, 09:58:16 PM
Bill Simmons told the Toucher and Rich radio show in Boston that he believes Boston will trade pick #3 for Jahlil Okafor
and..... go....
Hope not. Centres who can't play defense are becoming incredibly less valuable.
Quote from: Jay on May 20, 2016, 10:06:43 PM
Quote from: valkorum on May 20, 2016, 09:58:16 PM
Bill Simmons told the Toucher and Rich radio show in Boston that he believes Boston will trade pick #3 for Jahlil Okafor
and..... go....
Hope not. Centres who can't play defense are becoming incredibly less valuable.
It's almost a strettttttttttttch to call him a C
Quote from: Jay on May 20, 2016, 10:06:43 PM
Quote from: valkorum on May 20, 2016, 09:58:16 PM
Bill Simmons told the Toucher and Rich radio show in Boston that he believes Boston will trade pick #3 for Jahlil Okafor
and..... go....
Hope not. Centres who can't play defense are becoming incredibly less valuable.
dont be silly its a great pick up.
get him out of philly and watch him thrive.
got lots of moves
Quote from: Jay on May 20, 2016, 10:06:43 PM
Quote from: valkorum on May 20, 2016, 09:58:16 PM
Bill Simmons told the Toucher and Rich radio show in Boston that he believes Boston will trade pick #3 for Jahlil Okafor
and..... go....
Hope not. Centres who can't play defense are becoming incredibly less valuable.
Might be unplayable in the playoffs if he doesn't develop at an above average rate on D
http://www.thescore.com/nba/news/1030538
Thibs cleaning house - 9 front office and basketball staff gone.
Toronto's offence still sucks but they put up a massive defensive effort with Joseph and Bismack killing it on D. Scola and PatPat also combined to annoy Love enough to force him out of the game.
Toronto had a lot of things go their way though - DeRozan shooting well, Cavs not shooting as lights out as they have been (Btw, the Cavs are the biggest 'jump shooting team' left in the playoffs), and a massive home crowd effort - but I reckon they always had the ability defensively to put up a good fight, and winning a game convincingly was quite impressive. See if they can put up more scrappy performances like this through the series.
LeBron's flopping tho...
Gotta love the Biz and his energy! Teams nearly gave up on him due to his ineptitude on offence but he's turned things around. Love it.
Cleveland didnt handle the adversity well at all...
Quote from: RiOtChEsS on May 22, 2016, 10:49:47 PM
Cleveland didnt handle the adversity well at all...
Pride game for the Raptors. Cavs in 5.
Quote from: Jay on May 23, 2016, 12:43:38 AM
Quote from: RiOtChEsS on May 22, 2016, 10:49:47 PM
Cleveland didnt handle the adversity well at all...
Pride game for the Raptors. Cavs in 5.
I thought it was more Cleveland couldn't get as deep in the lane and their outside shot wasn't falling...
Predictions for today:
OKC is up 10 late 3rd early 4th only to be run down by the GSW and lose a close one
Golden State are iccccce cold atm.
Though I guess if there's any team in the league that can turn around a 25 point half-time deficit its them.
Unless of course they put the cue in the rack and player their bench for the rest of the game.
Wow.
Quote from: Jay on May 23, 2016, 12:53:55 PM
Wow.
big call but I reckon OKC got this.
getting very interesting now at 2-1.
really hope it goes to 3-1 then we will see how good the warriors are.
Quote from: Holz on May 23, 2016, 12:57:04 PM
really hope it goes to 3-1 then we will see how good the warriors are.
Can't say I saw this result coming
C'mon OKC, I've got them in 7. Draymond Green might get suspended for the next game too, at least a fine for kicking Adams in the nads, he's done it in the past so they will take that into account. Could be back to back losses for the 1st time this year for OKC if Green misses.
State haven't lost back to back games all season
Quote from: R.Griffen on May 23, 2016, 01:54:53 PM
State haven't lost back to back games all season
this is the playoffs not the regular season. everything is going as i assumed except i had spurs here not thunder.
if green is out you would have to have thunder strong favorites at home. He would have to be gone if not then its just a case of its playoffs anything goes. there was no reason for him to lift his leg like that, he was having a bad game and was frustrated.
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Quote from: R.Griffen on May 23, 2016, 01:54:53 PM
State haven't lost back to back games all season
this is the playoffs not the regular season. everything is going as i assumed except i had spurs here not thunder.
if green is out you would have to have thunder strong favorites at home. He would have to be gone if not then its just a case of its playoffs anything goes. there was no reason for him to lift his leg like that, he was having a bad game and was frustrated.
And Jones got suspended yesterday for much less so Green HAS to go or it's BS.
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State haven't lost back to back games all season
this is the playoffs not the regular season. everything is going as i assumed except i had spurs here not thunder.
if green is out you would have to have thunder strong favorites at home. He would have to be gone if not then its just a case of its playoffs anything goes. there was no reason for him to lift his leg like that, he was having a bad game and was frustrated.
And Jones got suspended yesterday for much less so Green HAS to go or it's BS.
NBA conspiracy theory.
the NBA wants curry to be the new face of the NBA or at the very least wants Curry v Lebron.
I reckon he plays, which is a Joke.
he has done this in the past aswell.
Could be like that Heat/Spurs Finals where it went game for game up until game 7...
I don't think Draymond should be suspended for that.
Quote from: Jay on May 23, 2016, 07:27:24 PM
I don't think Draymond should be suspended for that.
I was thinking a fine, but at the same time he did it on purpose, impact was low, but the area is... "fragile"
Im fine with whichever way they rule it tbh
Quote from: Jay on May 23, 2016, 07:27:24 PM
I don't think Draymond should be suspended for that.
Why should Jones be suspended for this then?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZQ4qbjoZrpE (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZQ4qbjoZrpE)
Quote from: jvalles69 on May 23, 2016, 08:44:13 PM
Quote from: Jay on May 23, 2016, 07:27:24 PM
I don't think Draymond should be suspended for that.
Why should Jones be suspended for this then?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZQ4qbjoZrpE (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZQ4qbjoZrpE)
Because that was intentional and Draymond's wasn't. He was just trying to exaggerate the foul.
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Quote from: Jay on May 23, 2016, 07:27:24 PM
I don't think Draymond should be suspended for that.
Why should Jones be suspended for this then?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZQ4qbjoZrpE (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZQ4qbjoZrpE)
Because that was intentional and Draymond's wasn't. He was just trying to exaggerate the foul.
I thought kicking your leg out was dealt with in the past from guys like Bowan, Kobe and Manu? Pretty wreckless, he knew what he was doing and was definitely trying to make contact. Either way it'll be interesting to see the result.
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Quote from: Jay on May 23, 2016, 07:27:24 PM
I don't think Draymond should be suspended for that.
Why should Jones be suspended for this then?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZQ4qbjoZrpE (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZQ4qbjoZrpE)
Because that was intentional and Draymond's wasn't. He was just trying to exaggerate the foul.
I thought kicking your leg out was dealt with in the past from guys like Bowan, Kobe and Manu? Pretty wreckless, he knew what he was doing and was definitely trying to make contact. Either way it'll be interesting to see the result.
Definitely intentional, malicious no, how many games for a dick tap :D
“During a game, players â€" at times â€" flail their legs in an attempt to draw a foul,†VanDeWeghe continued, “but Green’s actions in this case warranted an additional penalty.â€
this is the conversation before this announcement
"ok so umm Green kicked a guy in a restricted area, geez that hurts the warriors chances and take abit of interest out of the game, what should we go with fellas? flailing leg?
nah that will never fly makes no sense.
you got anything better?
not really, but we suspended Jones for basically the same thing
I cant even spell his first name who cares, this is Draymond Green and the warriors might get knocked out
sigh ok
Its OK holz just another asterisks you can put next to steph after he wins another ring
Quote from: JBs-Hawks on May 24, 2016, 11:21:59 AM
Its OK holz just another asterisks you can put next to steph after he wins another ring
Nah this is even better. If/when they lose they have zero excuses.
The Cavs have officially became the favorites to win now.
Quote from: Holz on May 24, 2016, 11:27:44 AM
Quote from: JBs-Hawks on May 24, 2016, 11:21:59 AM
Its OK holz just another asterisks you can put next to steph after he wins another ring
Nah this is even better. If/when they lose they have zero excuses.
The Cavs have officially became the favorites to win now.
(http://s3.amazonaws.com/rapgenius/1377385109_kevin-hart-grandpa-o.gif)
Quote from: RiOtChEsS on May 24, 2016, 11:50:39 AM
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Quote from: JBs-Hawks on May 24, 2016, 11:21:59 AM
Its OK holz just another asterisks you can put next to steph after he wins another ring
Nah this is even better. If/when they lose they have zero excuses.
The Cavs have officially became the favorites to win now.
(http://s3.amazonaws.com/rapgenius/1377385109_kevin-hart-grandpa-o.gif)
they have though they are now favorites in the betting agencies Not because Green is playing but because its 2-1 Thunder
Weak & pathetic from the NBA. They upgrade to a flagrant 2 (and $25k fine) but still don't suspend him. He needed to be suspended for 1 game.
He's right. Moment thunder went 2-1 up the Cavs became favourite and Thunder dropped a lot in betting as well.
Sportsbet has it:
Cavs $2.20
Warriors $2.30
Thunder $4.20
Raptors $91.00
Warriors were under $2 and Thunder were up near 7
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Its OK holz just another asterisks you can put next to steph after he wins another ring
Nah this is even better. If/when they lose they have zero excuses.
The Cavs have officially became the favorites to win now.
(http://s3.amazonaws.com/rapgenius/1377385109_kevin-hart-grandpa-o.gif)
they have though they are now favorites in the betting agencies Not because Green is playing but because its 2-1 Thunder
Yeah that's fine but an asterisks good gawd gimme a break ::)
May as well rewrite every record book in every sport with these !#^* symbols all through them
As soon as I knew Cavs were going to coast I got on them for $3.10 to win the whole thing, Warriors/Thunder will come out of that matchup battered and bruised, and should go to 7. I think Raptors have won their only game.
Raptors up 16
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Quote from: JBs-Hawks on May 24, 2016, 11:21:59 AM
Its OK holz just another asterisks you can put next to steph after he wins another ring
Nah this is even better. If/when they lose they have zero excuses.
The Cavs have officially became the favorites to win now.
(http://s3.amazonaws.com/rapgenius/1377385109_kevin-hart-grandpa-o.gif)
they have though they are now favorites in the betting agencies Not because Green is playing but because its 2-1 Thunder
Yeah that's fine but an asterisks good gawd gimme a break ::)
May as well rewrite every record book in every sport with these !#^* symbols all through them
im not giving them an asterix.
im saying they wont win so there wont be any asterix to give.
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Quote from: JBs-Hawks on May 24, 2016, 11:21:59 AM
Its OK holz just another asterisks you can put next to steph after he wins another ring
Nah this is even better. If/when they lose they have zero excuses.
The Cavs have officially became the favorites to win now.
(http://s3.amazonaws.com/rapgenius/1377385109_kevin-hart-grandpa-o.gif)
they have though they are now favorites in the betting agencies Not because Green is playing but because its 2-1 Thunder
Yeah that's fine but an asterisks good gawd gimme a break ::)
May as well rewrite every record book in every sport with these !#^* symbols all through them
im not giving them an asterix.
im saying they wont win so there wont be any asterix to give.
I'm gonna be that guy
*asterisk.
http://basketball.realgm.com/wiretap/242000/Bradley-Beal-Looking-For-Max-Contract-In-Free-Agency
Bradley Beal looking for Max contract.
pump the brakes, we gotta series
Cavs title favourites ;D
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Quote from: JBs-Hawks on May 24, 2016, 11:21:59 AM
Its OK holz just another asterisks you can put next to steph after he wins another ring
Nah this is even better. If/when they lose they have zero excuses.
The Cavs have officially became the favorites to win now.
(http://s3.amazonaws.com/rapgenius/1377385109_kevin-hart-grandpa-o.gif)
they have though they are now favorites in the betting agencies Not because Green is playing but because its 2-1 Thunder
Yeah that's fine but an asterisks good gawd gimme a break ::)
May as well rewrite every record book in every sport with these !#^* symbols all through them
im not giving them an asterix.
im saying they wont win so there wont be any asterix to give.
I'm gonna be that guy
*asterisk.
Cavs need an *for salary cap ;)
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Quote from: JBs-Hawks on May 24, 2016, 11:21:59 AM
Its OK holz just another asterisks you can put next to steph after he wins another ring
Nah this is even better. If/when they lose they have zero excuses.
The Cavs have officially became the favorites to win now.
(http://s3.amazonaws.com/rapgenius/1377385109_kevin-hart-grandpa-o.gif)
they have though they are now favorites in the betting agencies Not because Green is playing but because its 2-1 Thunder
Yeah that's fine but an asterisks good gawd gimme a break ::)
May as well rewrite every record book in every sport with these !#^* symbols all through them
im not giving them an asterix.
im saying they wont win so there wont be any asterix to give.
I'm gonna be that guy
*asterisk.
Cavs need an *for salary cap ;)
Haha because of TT?
And low key Cleveland's D has been bad through the playoffs. Doesn't really matter though if they have prolonged stretches where they shoot the lights out and LeBron consistently gets to the rim
Putting my life savings on Cavs to win game 5
Hot take, whoever wins tomorrow becomes the title favourite.
Cannot wait for it!
Warriors slight favourites at home but man this is the biggest game of the playoffs so far! Until game 5 that is
Quote from: plumdog millionaire on May 24, 2016, 09:39:23 PM
Warriors slight favourites at home but man this is the biggest game of the playoffs so far! Until game 5 that is
They have to get the home court advantage first. They need to head home with the series tied at 2-2
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Quote from: plumdog millionaire on May 24, 2016, 09:39:23 PM
Warriors slight favourites at home but man this is the biggest game of the playoffs so far! Until game 5 that is
They have to get the home court advantage first. They need to head home with the series tied at 2-2
Yeah my bad jumped the gun!
It's pretty crazy how the entire NBA season rides on how well one player is shooting the ball :o
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Quote from: JBs-Hawks on May 24, 2016, 11:21:59 AM
Its OK holz just another asterisks you can put next to steph after he wins another ring
Nah this is even better. If/when they lose they have zero excuses.
The Cavs have officially became the favorites to win now.
(http://s3.amazonaws.com/rapgenius/1377385109_kevin-hart-grandpa-o.gif)
they have though they are now favorites in the betting agencies Not because Green is playing but because its 2-1 Thunder
Yeah that's fine but an asterisks good gawd gimme a break ::)
May as well rewrite every record book in every sport with these !#^* symbols all through them
im not giving them an asterix.
im saying they wont win so there wont be any asterix to give.
I'm gonna be that guy
*asterisk.
Cavs need an *for salary cap ;)
Haha because of TT?
And low key Cleveland's D has been bad through the playoffs. Doesn't really matter though if they have prolonged stretches where they shoot the lights out and LeBron consistently gets to the rim
Im being sarcastic ;)
If we are gonna * everything then 100m in luxury tax is also an *
geez the thunder look good. its not even like there shots are falling its simply 10/19 v 5/11 its weight of shots.
Quote from: My Chumps on May 25, 2016, 12:32:46 AM
It's pretty crazy how the entire NBA season rides on how well one player is shooting the ball :o
Steph starts 1-6 and they're 11 down. Hmmmm
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Quote from: My Chumps on May 25, 2016, 12:32:46 AM
It's pretty crazy how the entire NBA season rides on how well one player is shooting the ball :o
Steph starts 1-6 and they're 11 down. Hmmmm
good thing Ezelli and Brown combined for 6/6 or they would be a long way back.
A win today for the thunder could see us become the favourites for the championship
Quote from: Cookie311993 on May 25, 2016, 12:59:53 PM
A win today for the thunder could see us become the favourites for the championship
I reckon you would have to be. The Cavs have looked pretty bad in toronto but they should close in 6 or 7. The worrying thing for the thunder is durrant v Lebron. He has always struggled against him.
If the thunder do win this year i reckon they break free and will be the team to beat in the NBA for the next 3-4 years.
The improvement of Steven Adams in this post-season has been unbelievable. What a guy.
Quote from: Holz on May 25, 2016, 01:03:05 PM
Quote from: Cookie311993 on May 25, 2016, 12:59:53 PM
A win today for the thunder could see us become the favourites for the championship
I reckon you would have to be. The Cavs have looked pretty bad in toronto but they should close in 6 or 7. The worrying thing for the thunder is durrant v Lebron. He has always struggled against him.
If the thunder do win this year i reckon they break free and will be the team to beat in the NBA for the next 3-4 years.
Playing their best games in the playoffs. Which is what you want if you are to achieve success
Quote from: My Chumps on May 25, 2016, 01:03:58 PM
The improvement of Steven Adams in this post-season has been unbelievable. What a guy.
The last few games of the Spurs series he really picked up his play. He slowed down Leonard and Aldridge
Warriors are paying $7 on Sportsbet to win from here. Thunder have also gone favourites to win the west
Quote from: Cookie311993 on May 25, 2016, 01:10:13 PM
Warriors are paying $7 on Sportsbet to win from here. Thunder have also gone favourites to win the west
Cavs are now strong favorites to win it all at $2.10
Thunder $2.88
Warriors $3.30
I reckon thats harsh on the Thunder and pretty nice on the Cavs. Thunder look great and Cavs looked flat in the last 2.
Curry doesn't have explosiveness that he had during the regular season. I gotta think his knee still isn't quite right.
Lay is saving the day 12 points in 6 minutes. He is double OKCs score in this quarter.
I see you Holz deleting that post
And its an 8 point ball game.
Quote from: plumdog millionaire on May 25, 2016, 01:47:17 PM
I see you Holz deleting that post
was actually going to edit it with the klay comment but stuffed up.
what i said was so the excuses are coming already. Curry still hasnt done much its all been klay.
I also said Draymond Green has been terrible for what was an offensive powerhouse better then Irving.
1/5 shooting 2 assits and 6 turnovers.
Klay has been brilliant 19 points in the 3rd soo far. He is the only player on the warriors who is underrated. Always said he is the 2nd best on the team and for me is the best shooter in the NBA.
Steph would wanna pull his head in if wants to win this series
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Greatest Team Ever They Said
Quote from: Holz on May 25, 2016, 02:25:18 PM
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Greatest Team Ever They Said
didn't know a series was won with 3 wins...
OKC have got to be title favourites now. Such an impressive playoffs they've had since game 1 San Antonio.
However if any team can win 3 straight, it's Golden State. Although if Steph isn't Steph, this thing is over in 6 at the latest.
So...Lebron got the choke conversation when he missed crucial free throws, why isn't Curry getting the choke status when he's missing open shots in a crucial game?!
PS Dray Green has become my most hated player.
Quote from: Holz on May 25, 2016, 01:17:27 PM
Quote from: Cookie311993 on May 25, 2016, 01:10:13 PM
Warriors are paying $7 on Sportsbet to win from here. Thunder have also gone favourites to win the west
Cavs are now strong favorites to win it all at $2.10
Thunder $2.88
Warriors $3.30
I reckon thats harsh on the Thunder and pretty nice on the Cavs. Thunder look great and Cavs looked flat in the last 2.
It's hard to judge the east. Toronto were flat in Cleveland and the Cavs were flat in Toronto
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Quote from: Holz on May 25, 2016, 02:25:18 PM
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Greatest Team Ever They Said
didn't know a series was won with 3 wins...
yes but
Bulls
72-10 then 15-3 in playoffs for 87-13 season
Warriors
73-9 then 9-5 so far in playoffs for 82-14 season.
even if they win every game from here out thats 89-14 and hence an inferior season.
Quote from: Jay on May 25, 2016, 02:41:24 PM
OKC have got to be title favourites now. Such an impressive playoffs they've had since game 1 San Antonio.
However if any team can win 3 straight, it's Golden State. Although if Steph isn't Steph, this thing is over in 6 at the latest.
The Thunder are so physically dominant it's so impressive how they're just asserting themselves over these all time great teams. If they had a solid Afflalo type at SG that would be a freaking monster.
Quote from: plumdog millionaire on May 25, 2016, 03:39:11 PM
Quote from: Jay on May 25, 2016, 02:41:24 PM
OKC have got to be title favourites now. Such an impressive playoffs they've had since game 1 San Antonio.
However if any team can win 3 straight, it's Golden State. Although if Steph isn't Steph, this thing is over in 6 at the latest.
The Thunder are so physically dominant it's so impressive how they're just asserting themselves over these all time great teams. If they had a solid Afflalo type at SG that would be a freaking monster.
As impressive as the Adams/Kanter combo has been.
The lineup of Ibaka, Durant, Waiters, Roberson and Westbrook have outscored the Warriors starting 5, 96-32 in the last two games.
Thunder are dominating the Warriors at their own game, always believed the potential this group had and always said we needed more output from our bench and they've delivered.
I honestly think thunder will run away with it in game 5.
Yes Warriors have the potential to win the next 3 and they've earnt that right to have everyone think that.
But games 3 and 4, Thunder have dominated them in every way possible, don't see that changing soon.
Thunder 4-1
Cavs 4-2
Thunder v Cavs finals.
Regardless of the result I hope people fairly respect both of the teams competing in the WCF and the Spurs too for the amazing seasons they all put up
This has been a crazy turn around for the Thunder. Who genuinely thought they were a contender at the start of the playoffs? Who thought they were gonna get past the Spurs, especially after game 1?
It's all really pissed me off too because I wanted to see KD leave haha.
Quote from: plumdog millionaire on May 25, 2016, 06:18:57 PM
Regardless of the result I hope people fairly respect both of the teams competing in the WCF and the Spurs too for the amazing seasons they all put up
3 very strong sides in the western conference. It's a shame the East doesn't have the same quality
2 very tough match ups in a row for the Thunder, how much is left in the tank for a potential finals matchup with the Cavs
What are the chances of the Thunder winning game 5 and clinching the series?
I reckon it would be about 50-50 now
Im loving this situation
Warriors only need to win 1 game on the road
Yet OKC only need 1 more win...
Quote from: RiOtChEsS on May 25, 2016, 10:20:43 PM
Im loving this situation
Warriors only need to win 1 game on the road
Yet OKC only need 1 more win...
Yep same here. I think it's about 80/20 OKC at this point. Most likely outcome is GSW having a pride game on Friday, but then OKC closing it out game 6.
Cavs Raptors I have at about 90/10 Cavaliers. Think the Cavs win the next 2 but wouldn't be shocking if it goes 7.
Durant at $5.50 for Finals MVP... Don't mind that at all.
Quote from: Jay on May 25, 2016, 11:24:52 PM
Quote from: RiOtChEsS on May 25, 2016, 10:20:43 PM
Im loving this situation
Warriors only need to win 1 game on the road
Yet OKC only need 1 more win...
Yep same here. I think it's about 80/20 OKC at this point. Most likely outcome is GSW having a pride game on Friday, but then OKC closing it out game 6.
Cavs Raptors I have at about 90/10 Cavaliers. Think the Cavs win the next 2 but wouldn't be shocking if it goes 7.
Warriors dont look right atm but this team has caught lightning in a bottle moreso than any other in history, they still could :-X
Quote from: Jay on May 25, 2016, 11:30:19 PM
Durant at $5.50 for Finals MVP... Don't mind that at all.
I've got on Westbrook for the same price, borderline trip dubs every game will snatch it even if Durant averages over 35ppg. Ever been dual MVP's? Can see it happening for the first time if OKC win, and would be the very fitting if Durant and Westbrook shared the award.
Westbrook will get it if Okc win. LeBron will slow Durant down alot better them Kyrie will slow down Westbrook.
I remember the last time a LeBron James team let a 2-0 series lead get tied back up at 2-2. Then this happened https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K_uulujs-MM, and the LeBron team went down 2-3. And as far as I can remember, the series ended right there and no game 6 or 7 were ever played :)
This series has a few similarities! Wonder if the Raps can steal one in Cleveland though.
Quote from: Jay on May 26, 2016, 11:56:07 AM
I remember the last time a LeBron James team let a 2-0 series lead get tied back up at 2-2. Then this happened https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K_uulujs-MM, and the LeBron team went down 2-3. And as far as I can remember, the series ended right there and no game 6 or 7 were ever played :)
This series has a few similarities! Wonder if the Raps can steal one in Cleveland though.
That YouTube clip is my home page
Quote from: plumdog millionaire on May 26, 2016, 12:05:33 PM
Quote from: Jay on May 26, 2016, 11:56:07 AM
I remember the last time a LeBron James team let a 2-0 series lead get tied back up at 2-2. Then this happened https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K_uulujs-MM, and the LeBron team went down 2-3. And as far as I can remember, the series ended right there and no game 6 or 7 were ever played :)
This series has a few similarities! Wonder if the Raps can steal one in Cleveland though.
That YouTube clip is my home page
What a shot. Should've been a foul too!
It's funny how quickly I've forgotten that Boston era. I hated that team, but love Isaiah and Brad Stevens nowadays.
There is no way Lebron doesnt make it through the Raptors. They are junk in America.
barring an injury to Lebron im locking them in.
do i dare start going for the warriors so they are an easier match up :P
Today will be the first OKC Vs GSW matchup ive seen live, pretty bloody keen to see how this pans out
Hopefully we clinch the series today
If west brook catches fire this series is over.
2-12 and they are only down 8.
Couple things ive noticed.
Steph was hesitant to pull the trigger on his shot for his first 12 minutes
OKC could be shooting better and probably will start to
Westbrook is easily put off his game, teams should run out a fringe player to hard foul him early and jaw with him
This is exciting as shower, so much emotion.
Quote from: elephants on May 27, 2016, 01:07:52 PM
This is exciting as shower, so much emotion.
about to go up a notch or two ;)
Draymond Green just cannot help himself :-X
Quote from: RiOtChEsS on May 27, 2016, 01:37:05 PM
Draymond Green just cannot help himself :-X
Certainly not making many friends!
Quote from: RiOtChEsS on May 27, 2016, 01:37:05 PM
Draymond Green just cannot help himself :-X
But goddamn he's bringing energy tonight! Crucial.
Mo Speights :o
Curry with a flurry...
Quote from: My Chumps on May 27, 2016, 01:47:56 PM
Quote from: RiOtChEsS on May 27, 2016, 01:37:05 PM
Draymond Green just cannot help himself :-X
But goddamn he's bringing energy tonight! Crucial.
The energy is great just dont taunt the opposition ;)
Bring on game 6. Back at home now
Raptors on a hat trick today, can they force game 7...
Lebron quietly being a total beast this whole post season.
Curry apparently has been 70% this series
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Man the Cavs' 3 point shooting has been phenomenal this playoffs
Officiating has been painful to watch, 3 huge delays in game
Quote from: plumdog millionaire on May 28, 2016, 12:48:32 PM
Man the Cavs' 3 point shooting has been phenomenal this playoffs
They look on and primed to close out
James (Jones) has made 6 straight finals. What a player
Nothing more satisfying than seeing Draymond getting posterised by Adams! ;D
Anyone heard the Dejean-Jones story. Apparently got shot and killed after breaking into an appartment?
This is an incredible game.
Klay has kept 'em in it.
This is the best game of basketball I've ever seen
w0wee i cant turn up my surround sound any louder ;D 8) :o
Quote from: RiOtChEsS on May 26, 2016, 12:29:15 AM
Quote from: Jay on May 25, 2016, 11:24:52 PM
Quote from: RiOtChEsS on May 25, 2016, 10:20:43 PM
Im loving this situation
Warriors only need to win 1 game on the road
Yet OKC only need 1 more win...
Yep same here. I think it's about 80/20 OKC at this point. Most likely outcome is GSW having a pride game on Friday, but then OKC closing it out game 6.
Cavs Raptors I have at about 90/10 Cavaliers. Think the Cavs win the next 2 but wouldn't be shocking if it goes 7.
Warriors dont look right atm but this team has caught lightning in a bottle moreso than any other in history, they still could :-X
::) ;)
We have choked big time. Biggest game of the season
That was butt clenching stuff. Splash bros just being splash bros
Man-oh-man what a stretch by the splash bros.
Meanwhile KD and Russ didn't execute late.
Durant was horrible that game, what the flower was he doing? Westbrook is playing so smart and well, and Durant is playing like old Westbrook! What a choke! :o
Still shocked.
Predicting OKC by 4
Warriors by 4
Warriors by 16
KD + Russ too predictable down the stretch, Warriors by 6.
Il say GSW by 11+ but my gut says around 20
Anyone watching live?
Predictions:
Durant 30+ points
Westbrook 28 points 8 rebs 7 assists
Ibaka 12 points
No other Thunder players over 10 points
Curry under 30
Klay under 25
Draymond 10 points 12 rebs 8 assists
GSW supporting cast to play really really well
GSW 121 OKC 101
Iggy starting over HB.
ohh this is going to be a great game. I can just feel it.
22-17 Thunder game on.
Curry is looking good, this is his chance to show he could be the best in the world. Lets see if he takes it.
Quote from: RiOtChEsS on May 31, 2016, 11:32:24 AM
Anyone watching live?
I am. Espn has been my favourite channel since getting Foxtel.
Curry is playing emotionally already, needs a chill pill...
Quote from: Cookie311993 on May 31, 2016, 12:26:58 PM
Quote from: RiOtChEsS on May 31, 2016, 11:32:24 AM
Anyone watching live?
I am. Espn has been my favourite channel since getting Foxtel.
yep same, so good hey 8)
I reckon $2.45 is harsh on the thunder with a 5 point lead.
Quote from: RiOtChEsS on May 31, 2016, 12:28:15 PM
Curry is playing emotionally already, needs a chill pill...
Quote from: Cookie311993 on May 31, 2016, 12:26:58 PM
Quote from: RiOtChEsS on May 31, 2016, 11:32:24 AM
Anyone watching live?
I am. Espn has been my favourite channel since getting Foxtel.
yep same, so good hey 8)
Playoffs are the best. As a Thunder supporter this is the most I get to see them
Quote from: Holz on May 31, 2016, 12:31:09 PM
I reckon $2.45 is harsh on the thunder with a 5 point lead.
I'm not taking anything for granted. We were winning by 8 at half-time in game 6 and lost
Klay is brick laying atm
Whole GSW offense looks out of sync
Quote from: RiOtChEsS on May 31, 2016, 12:40:44 PM
Klay is brick laying atm
Whole GSW offense looks out of sync
Adams has been a beast this post season
OKC 10 Offensive rebounds before half-time
Big moments to finish the half; Curry goes 1v1 with Ibaka, gets blocked at the rim, leads to a Westbrook and-one on the fast break.
Just as I type this Curry hits a ridiculous layup to finish :P
How about Green grabbing Adams arm and dragging him to the ground?
That Curry layup :o
If the Warriors cant get in rhythm this could be trouble :-X
A real back and forth match. Thunder pull away, Warriors comeback
Unanimous MVP.
Man I love Shaun Livingston.
Episode 7: Return of the Westbrick
This could be the end of us right here. Interested to see what happens during free agency.
Hopefully we can keep Durant and had some pieces around him
I think thats over
3/18 3 point v 13/29 3 points
thats the difference.
big collapse by the thunder after being 3-1 up.
It's never over while Mo Speights is on the court :-X
Most of the time our missed 3's come when they aren't needed or they are rushed shots. Generally a combination of both
Ego players. Curry or Thompson hits a 3 and the thunder try and make it back straight away.
#Durant2Boston
Oh boy..
Do we have the clutch to keep it close and possibly win
Failing to win at home has really hurt us
Adams has had a good postseason and is a positive going forward.
Big 3rd quarter gets GSW home.
I dont really want either GSW or CAVS to win... but I am going for Cavs to win
1) Bogut has a championship
2) Mills has a championship
3) Delly doesn't have a championship
Therefore I want Delly to win a championship
I hope the Cavs lose. I hate all the Lebron James bandwagon fans. So man people changed allegiances to the Heat when he went there. Ditching the Cavs when they went to shower without him.
Now that he is back with the Cavs and they have a decent roster all the fans are back. I don't like that.
Best thing I was hoping for was a Thunder vs Raptors finals
I like seeing new teams challenging
Hopefully we can keep KD.
I think we need to try and find a SG who can score more points than Roberson. Roberson needs some shooting work. His defence has been very good this post season though
Quote from: Cookie311993 on May 31, 2016, 03:14:58 PM
Hopefully we can keep KD.
I think we need to try and find a SG who can score more points than Roberson. Roberson needs some shooting work. His defence has been very good this post season though
tbh i was shocked Morrow didnt get more minutes, OKC were 10 for 50 from 3 over the last 2 games, dude is a sniper
From what I've seen of Morrow, he doesn't offer much besides the 3pt shooting
Quote from: Cookie311993 on May 31, 2016, 03:27:20 PM
From what I've seen of Morrow, he doesn't offer much besides the 3pt shooting
nor was Robertson stopping Klay, if you intend on shooting the 3 and cant stop Klay you had to play Morrow
Roberson wasn't given the matchup on Thompson. Westbrook has marked him for majority of the series, followed by KD
However you dissect it, Morrow can shoot the 3 and OKC didnt play him when they were chucking up 25 a game @20%
Quote from: RiOtChEsS on May 31, 2016, 03:58:34 PM
However you dissect it, Morrow can shoot the 3 and OKC didnt play him when they were chucking up 25 a game @20%
Morrow was actually 2/2 from 3 out of that 10 for 50 so 8 for 48 from 3 :o
When Roberson air-balled that open three I literally laughed out loud. Then he turned down another wide open three and dished it to Waiters to brick one of his 0-5 from downtown.
Just a semi-decent three-and-D guy would help OKC so much. Roberson was excellent on D all playoffs but is a total liability on offence.
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Quote from: Holz on May 23, 2016, 12:57:04 PM
really hope it goes to 3-1 then we will see how good the warriors are.
They're alright hey? 73 wins gotta count for something
Quote from: plumdog millionaire on May 31, 2016, 05:17:26 PM
Quote from: elephants on May 23, 2016, 12:58:58 PM
Quote from: Holz on May 23, 2016, 12:57:04 PM
really hope it goes to 3-1 then we will see how good the warriors are.
They're alright hey? 73 wins gotta count for something
yeah they are doing good.
first healthy elite team they have beat in a playoff series.
never said they couldnt do it, just said they hadn't.
Curry was solid but i gotta give props to Klay his game 6 peformance is the main reason they are into the finals. Curry just finished it off.
looking forward to Lebron v Curry.
i think its the finals everyone wanted to see.
Quote from: Holz on May 31, 2016, 05:21:55 PM
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Quote from: elephants on May 23, 2016, 12:58:58 PM
Quote from: Holz on May 23, 2016, 12:57:04 PM
really hope it goes to 3-1 then we will see how good the warriors are.
They're alright hey? 73 wins gotta count for something
yeah they are doing good.
first healthy elite team they have beat in a playoff series.
never said they couldnt do it, just said they hadn't.
Curry was solid but i gotta give props to Klay his game 6 peformance is the main reason they are into the finals. Curry just finished it off.
looking forward to Lebron v Curry.
i think its the finals everyone wanted to see.
Klay is great because the threat of Curry allows him to be and Curry is great because of the threat Klay is himself. Since Curry plays on and off ball it's just that more ridiculous once you add his playmaking and shot creation. One is an 2 time MVP and the other is a high end number 2.
This series win should put most doubt to rest about how much of an all time great team we are watching unfold. Huge respect to the Thunder for running out another historic individual season in the Spurs and pushing this team all the way to Game 7. They might be the best Conference Final loser of all time too
Quote from: plumdog millionaire on May 31, 2016, 05:32:58 PM
This series win should put most doubt to rest about how much of an all time great team we are watching unfold. Huge respect to the Thunder for running out another historic individual season in the Spurs and pushing this team all the way to Game 7. They might be the best Conference Final loser of all time too
Big call!
I'll probably be supporting the Cavs in the finals. It'd be good to see Cleveland finally get a championship. Either way we get to see two modern greats do battle, should be an awesome series. Gonna be soooo many threes ;D
Quote from: My Chumps on May 31, 2016, 05:43:21 PM
Quote from: plumdog millionaire on May 31, 2016, 05:32:58 PM
This series win should put most doubt to rest about how much of an all time great team we are watching unfold. Huge respect to the Thunder for running out another historic individual season in the Spurs and pushing this team all the way to Game 7. They might be the best Conference Final loser of all time too
Big call!
I'll probably be supporting the Cavs in the finals. It'd be good to see Cleveland finally get a championship. Either way we get to see two modern greats do battle, should be an awesome series. Gonna be soooo many threes ;D
Recency bias at its finest.
Yeah for me it would be two awesome narratives for either team if they win:
For Cleveland, LeBron secures his stance as at least the 2nd GOAT and gets one for the 'Land.
For the Warriors, caps off a historic season and establishes them as a dynasty and one of the best stretches of basketball a team has played.
Either way we will be seeing two historically great players (Hoping Steph earns that title in the years to come), and one historically great team battling for their place in NBA lore.
Quote from: My Chumps on May 31, 2016, 04:48:49 PM
When Roberson air-balled that open three I literally laughed out loud. Then he turned down another wide open three and dished it to Waiters to brick one of his 0-5 from downtown.
Just a semi-decent three-and-D guy would help OKC so much. Roberson was excellent on D all playoffs but is a total liability on offence.
I couldn't believe we kept dishing the ball to him while he kept missing. The fact he only scored 4 points hurts. He can get all the defensive aspects. Double digits in rebounds
Quote from: plumdog millionaire on May 31, 2016, 05:32:58 PM
This series win should put most doubt to rest about how much of an all time great team we are watching unfold. Huge respect to the Thunder for running out another historic individual season in the Spurs and pushing this team all the way to Game 7. They might be the best Conference Final loser of all time too
what is an all time great team?
if you include 2011-2014 Heat, 2013-2014 Spurs, 2008-2010 lakers, 2000-2005 lakers, 2003-2007 Spurs and 2008-2010 Celtics as all time great teams from 2000 onwards then yes they have entered that realm is they win this year.
If your talking 90s Bulls, 80s Lakers 60s Celtics then not even close.
Quote from: Holz on June 01, 2016, 10:19:01 AM
Quote from: plumdog millionaire on May 31, 2016, 05:32:58 PM
This series win should put most doubt to rest about how much of an all time great team we are watching unfold. Huge respect to the Thunder for running out another historic individual season in the Spurs and pushing this team all the way to Game 7. They might be the best Conference Final loser of all time too
what is an all time great team?
if you include 2011-2014 Heat, 2013-2014 Spurs, 2008-2010 lakers, 2000-2005 lakers, 2003-2007 Spurs and 2008-2010 Celtics as all time great teams from 2000 onwards then yes they have entered that realm is they win this year.
If your talking 90s Bulls, 80s Lakers 60s Celtics then not even close.
Not saying they are there, those teams won 3+ titles - this team has only won one. In the salary cap era it's unlikely we see teams dominate with that amount of titles ever again.
Quote from: plumdog millionaire on June 01, 2016, 11:34:23 AM
Quote from: Holz on June 01, 2016, 10:19:01 AM
Quote from: plumdog millionaire on May 31, 2016, 05:32:58 PM
This series win should put most doubt to rest about how much of an all time great team we are watching unfold. Huge respect to the Thunder for running out another historic individual season in the Spurs and pushing this team all the way to Game 7. They might be the best Conference Final loser of all time too
what is an all time great team?
if you include 2011-2014 Heat, 2013-2014 Spurs, 2008-2010 lakers, 2000-2005 lakers, 2003-2007 Spurs and 2008-2010 Celtics as all time great teams from 2000 onwards then yes they have entered that realm is they win this year.
If your talking 90s Bulls, 80s Lakers 60s Celtics then not even close.
Not saying they are there, those teams won 3+ titles - this team has only won one. In the salary cap era it's unlikely we see teams dominate with that amount of titles ever again.
thats fine if thats the standard for all time greats then if the warriors win they join the likes of the 11-14 heat, 13-14 spurs etc..
back to back is a fair argument they join that.
If they can win say 4-5 out of 7 years then they can start entering another conversation.
Quote from: Holz on June 01, 2016, 12:16:37 PM
Quote from: plumdog millionaire on June 01, 2016, 11:34:23 AM
Quote from: Holz on June 01, 2016, 10:19:01 AM
Quote from: plumdog millionaire on May 31, 2016, 05:32:58 PM
This series win should put most doubt to rest about how much of an all time great team we are watching unfold. Huge respect to the Thunder for running out another historic individual season in the Spurs and pushing this team all the way to Game 7. They might be the best Conference Final loser of all time too
what is an all time great team?
if you include 2011-2014 Heat, 2013-2014 Spurs, 2008-2010 lakers, 2000-2005 lakers, 2003-2007 Spurs and 2008-2010 Celtics as all time great teams from 2000 onwards then yes they have entered that realm is they win this year.
If your talking 90s Bulls, 80s Lakers 60s Celtics then not even close.
Not saying they are there, those teams won 3+ titles - this team has only won one. In the salary cap era it's unlikely we see teams dominate with that amount of titles ever again.
thats fine if thats the standard for all time greats then if the warriors win they join the likes of the 11-14 heat, 13-14 spurs etc..
back to back is a fair argument they join that.
If they can win say 4-5 out of 7 years then they can start entering another conversation.
What they have over all those 21st century teams is the 73 wins, that's why they're being held to a different standard. Plus they have players who are changing how NBA basketball is played and transcending just the on court excellence. How I see it that's a big part of being an all time great team
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Quote from: Holz on June 01, 2016, 12:16:37 PM
Quote from: plumdog millionaire on June 01, 2016, 11:34:23 AM
Quote from: Holz on June 01, 2016, 10:19:01 AM
Quote from: plumdog millionaire on May 31, 2016, 05:32:58 PM
This series win should put most doubt to rest about how much of an all time great team we are watching unfold. Huge respect to the Thunder for running out another historic individual season in the Spurs and pushing this team all the way to Game 7. They might be the best Conference Final loser of all time too
what is an all time great team?
if you include 2011-2014 Heat, 2013-2014 Spurs, 2008-2010 lakers, 2000-2005 lakers, 2003-2007 Spurs and 2008-2010 Celtics as all time great teams from 2000 onwards then yes they have entered that realm is they win this year.
If your talking 90s Bulls, 80s Lakers 60s Celtics then not even close.
Not saying they are there, those teams won 3+ titles - this team has only won one. In the salary cap era it's unlikely we see teams dominate with that amount of titles ever again.
thats fine if thats the standard for all time greats then if the warriors win they join the likes of the 11-14 heat, 13-14 spurs etc..
back to back is a fair argument they join that.
If they can win say 4-5 out of 7 years then they can start entering another conversation.
What they have over all those 21st century teams is the 73 wins, that's why they're being held to a different standard. Plus they have players who are changing how NBA basketball is played and transcending just the on court excellence. How I see it that's a big part of being an all time great team
They also tried to get the best record not resting any players, hasn't bitten them yet, but was close with OKC. A lot of those other teams with great records prior to GSW rested players on a constant basis, I should know, flowered my fantasy teams up at the time! ::)
Up until the playoffs started i didnt think the Cavs were a true threat to any WC team
Since the playoffs began they have gone up another level in chemistry and efficiency, they are a legitimate contender
Quote from: plumdog millionaire on June 01, 2016, 12:21:58 PM
Quote from: Holz on June 01, 2016, 12:16:37 PM
Quote from: plumdog millionaire on June 01, 2016, 11:34:23 AM
Quote from: Holz on June 01, 2016, 10:19:01 AM
Quote from: plumdog millionaire on May 31, 2016, 05:32:58 PM
This series win should put most doubt to rest about how much of an all time great team we are watching unfold. Huge respect to the Thunder for running out another historic individual season in the Spurs and pushing this team all the way to Game 7. They might be the best Conference Final loser of all time too
what is an all time great team?
if you include 2011-2014 Heat, 2013-2014 Spurs, 2008-2010 lakers, 2000-2005 lakers, 2003-2007 Spurs and 2008-2010 Celtics as all time great teams from 2000 onwards then yes they have entered that realm is they win this year.
If your talking 90s Bulls, 80s Lakers 60s Celtics then not even close.
Not saying they are there, those teams won 3+ titles - this team has only won one. In the salary cap era it's unlikely we see teams dominate with that amount of titles ever again.
thats fine if thats the standard for all time greats then if the warriors win they join the likes of the 11-14 heat, 13-14 spurs etc..
back to back is a fair argument they join that.
If they can win say 4-5 out of 7 years then they can start entering another conversation.
What they have over all those 21st century teams is the 73 wins, that's why they're being held to a different standard. Plus they have players who are changing how NBA basketball is played and transcending just the on court excellence. How I see it that's a big part of being an all time great team
thats a regular season though, really should mean nothing its the playoffs that are important.
If we are going by those standards then Lebron is the greatest of all time not Jordan. even big Jordan fans might agree that James is a better talent but just couldn't win the finals. 6 straight finals cements that.
here is a interesting question. Warriors are being called an all time great team, if the Cavs beat them are they then an all time great team?
Cavs are not an all-time great team, and won't beat the Warriors. Golden State just overcame the toughest matchup they could face. Beating Cleveland will feel like a breeze compared!
Quote from: Jay on June 01, 2016, 03:52:57 PM
Cavs are not an all-time great team, and won't beat the Warriors. Golden State just overcame the toughest matchup they could face. Beating Cleveland will feel like a breeze compared!
we will see.
realistically if they do win they have 1 ring and one runnerup, just like golden state. so apart from the regualr season golden state has had they are the same.
it will not be a breeze not when the cavs have the best player on the planet on their side.
Quote from: Holz on June 01, 2016, 03:56:07 PM
Quote from: Jay on June 01, 2016, 03:52:57 PM
Cavs are not an all-time great team, and won't beat the Warriors. Golden State just overcame the toughest matchup they could face. Beating Cleveland will feel like a breeze compared!
we will see.
realistically if they do win they have 1 ring and one runnerup, just like golden state. so apart from the regualr season golden state has had they are the same.
it will not be a breeze not when the cavs have the best player on the planet on their side.
I still think GSW will win but this series is going to be as hard
Warriors are slightly off and the Cavs are at their peak, il be shocked if it is decided in under 6 games
If the regular season was as easy as some of you guys are implying those Heat and Lakers (With Pau) teams should have won 70+ games every year. Kobe and LeBron never rested in their primes plus they played more minutes
Quote from: plumdog millionaire on June 01, 2016, 10:25:13 PM
If the regular season was as easy as some of you guys are implying those Heat and Lakers (With Pau) teams should have won 70+ games every year. Kobe and LeBron never rested in their primes plus they played more minutes
(http://s2.quickmeme.com/img/52/52ff750cc585e4537802417a05f59406f0e495165602a2500d771b76833f0e13.jpg)
Quote from: plumdog millionaire on June 01, 2016, 10:25:13 PM
If the regular season was as easy as some of you guys are implying those Heat and Lakers (With Pau) teams should have won 70+ games every year. Kobe and LeBron never rested in their primes plus they played more minutes
the heat rested wade alot, he was never really healthy.
The greats dont even care about the regular season.
look at the spurs they just turn up win most games and then start their season in the playoffs and they finished 67-15
Their 73 regular season only counts if they win the championship. If not then their 2015 asterix season is ahead of their 2016 season.
Interesting debate surfacing with the new cover of 2k17 being announced.
Who's better/who would you rather have, Kawhi or Paul George?
Kawhi
Quote from: Holz on June 02, 2016, 10:18:42 AM
Quote from: plumdog millionaire on June 01, 2016, 10:25:13 PM
If the regular season was as easy as some of you guys are implying those Heat and Lakers (With Pau) teams should have won 70+ games every year. Kobe and LeBron never rested in their primes plus they played more minutes
the heat rested wade alot, he was never really healthy.
The greats dont even care about the regular season.
look at the spurs they just turn up win most games and then start their season in the playoffs and they finished 67-15
Their 73 regular season only counts if they win the championship. If not then their 2015 asterix season is ahead of their 2016 season.
Fair enough man. To me 73 wins is pretty damn good either way. Spurs haven't really proved resting works besides winning 1 title.
Quote from: My Chumps on June 02, 2016, 01:02:15 PM
Interesting debate surfacing with the new cover of 2k17 being announced.
Who's better/who would you rather have, Kawhi or Paul George?
no contest
Kawhi,
Curry or Kawhi, now and for the future?
Kawhi and Kawhi
Kawhi v Anyone in the league, for the future
only AD
Quote from: Holz on June 02, 2016, 03:19:54 PM
Quote from: My Chumps on June 02, 2016, 01:02:15 PM
Interesting debate surfacing with the new cover of 2k17 being announced.
Who's better/who would you rather have, Kawhi or Paul George?
no contest
Kawhi,
Curry or Kawhi, now and for the future?
Kawhi and Kawhi
Kawhi v Anyone in the league, for the future
only AD
I'd consider Towns
I'd consider Cousins but they wont put a "Bad Boy" on the cover
Interestingly unanimous then. I think PG's a better offensive player tbh.
Quote from: plumdog millionaire on June 02, 2016, 03:23:53 PM
Quote from: Holz on June 02, 2016, 03:19:54 PM
Quote from: My Chumps on June 02, 2016, 01:02:15 PM
Interesting debate surfacing with the new cover of 2k17 being announced.
Who's better/who would you rather have, Kawhi or Paul George?
no contest
Kawhi,
Curry or Kawhi, now and for the future?
Kawhi and Kawhi
Kawhi v Anyone in the league, for the future
only AD
I'd consider Towns
I'm not convinced Kawhi can be the undisputed #1 guy on a championship team yet. Don't get me wrong, I'd still take him over just about anyone but it is something he has to prove.
From what I've seen and development wise, there's a serious case to be made for Towns over AD.
Yep Towns > Davis for me too. He's just so polished and has a clean jumper already. I wouldn't be surprised if he has a Duncan like career...
Brook Lopez NBA 2k18 hype train begins now
Quote from: Holz on June 02, 2016, 10:18:42 AM
Quote from: plumdog millionaire on June 01, 2016, 10:25:13 PM
If the regular season was as easy as some of you guys are implying those Heat and Lakers (With Pau) teams should have won 70+ games every year. Kobe and LeBron never rested in their primes plus they played more minutes
The greats dont even care about the regular season.
look at the spurs they just turn up win most games and then start their season in the playoffs and they finished 67-15
Their 73 regular season only counts if they win the championship. If not then their 2015 asterix season is ahead of their 2016 season.
Michael Jordan disagrees and he is the greatest https://youtu.be/DIjMR2z1UJs?t=3m44s
Spurs have never won 70 games so why look at them,
only 2 teams in history have, it is rarefied airThe 73 win season counts in the history books as the best single season record ever, truly it's in there have a look,
indisputable *Season w0w, this is the same keyboard you support the *Patriots and Tom Brady with right ???
God Patriots supporters... I know right...
Quote from: RiOtChEsS on June 02, 2016, 04:39:25 PM
Quote from: Holz on June 02, 2016, 10:18:42 AM
Quote from: plumdog millionaire on June 01, 2016, 10:25:13 PM
If the regular season was as easy as some of you guys are implying those Heat and Lakers (With Pau) teams should have won 70+ games every year. Kobe and LeBron never rested in their primes plus they played more minutes
The greats dont even care about the regular season.
look at the spurs they just turn up win most games and then start their season in the playoffs and they finished 67-15
Their 73 regular season only counts if they win the championship. If not then their 2015 asterix season is ahead of their 2016 season.
Michael Jordan disagrees and he is the greatest https://youtu.be/DIjMR2z1UJs?t=3m44s
Spurs have never won 70 games so why look at them, only 2 teams in history have, it is rarefied air
The 73 win season counts in the history books as the best single season record ever, truly it's in there have a look, indisputable
*Season w0w, this is the same keyboard you support the *Patriots and Tom Brady with right ???
Michael Jordan as the Charlotte owner has shown that he knows very little about current basketball. Fantastic player and basketball IQ for when he is playing. He is a below average removed from that.
amazing talent, amazing athlete, best competitor the game has seen but thats it.
People need to stop saying best season ever, and replace with best regular season ever.
I go for the patriots but im not bias towards them. They wernt the best team last year and I dont think they will be this year. They also probably shouldn't have one against the sea hawks, they got lucky that they didnt run the ball.
Woah woah woah, crossed the line there Holz!! We all know that Belichick's Jedi mind tricks caused Seattle to run that ball ;D
Quote from: Jay on June 02, 2016, 05:55:21 PM
Woah woah woah, crossed the line there Holz!! We all know that Belichick's Jedi mind tricks caused Seattle to run that ball ;D
I still think Brady was a decent shot of winning anyway even if they scored then.
i also fall into the skip category.
Brady had made Belicheck.
Quote from: Holz on June 02, 2016, 05:11:24 PM
Quote from: RiOtChEsS on June 02, 2016, 04:39:25 PM
Quote from: Holz on June 02, 2016, 10:18:42 AM
Quote from: plumdog millionaire on June 01, 2016, 10:25:13 PM
If the regular season was as easy as some of you guys are implying those Heat and Lakers (With Pau) teams should have won 70+ games every year. Kobe and LeBron never rested in their primes plus they played more minutes
The greats dont even care about the regular season.
look at the spurs they just turn up win most games and then start their season in the playoffs and they finished 67-15
Their 73 regular season only counts if they win the championship. If not then their 2015 asterix season is ahead of their 2016 season.
Michael Jordan disagrees and he is the greatest https://youtu.be/DIjMR2z1UJs?t=3m44s
Spurs have never won 70 games so why look at them, only 2 teams in history have, it is rarefied air
The 73 win season counts in the history books as the best single season record ever, truly it's in there have a look, indisputable
*Season w0w, this is the same keyboard you support the *Patriots and Tom Brady with right ???
Michael Jordan as the Charlotte owner has shown that he knows very little about current basketball. Fantastic player and basketball IQ for when he is playing. He is a below average removed from that.
amazing talent, amazing athlete, best competitor the game has seen but thats it.
People need to stop saying best season ever, and replace with best regular season ever.
I go for the patriots but im not bias towards them. They wernt the best team last year and I dont think they will be this year. They also probably shouldn't have one against the sea hawks, they got lucky that they didnt run the ball.
You have barely made sense, MJ was talking about winning 70 games, something he is qualified to speak about because he won 70 games, the record is for best regular season im not confused about that, nor is anyone else in this thread.
My point about the asterisks is it is hypocritical to argue the Patriots dont deserve them while you're handing them out to flowering Golden State, i mean what are you smoking ??? the GSW just beat the teams in front of them, they didn't use PED's or try and bend the rules, they simply beat every team in front of them.
Quote from: Holz on June 02, 2016, 05:58:27 PM
i also fall into the skip category.
Lol in more ways than one
Quote from: plumdog millionaire on June 02, 2016, 10:10:11 PM
Quote from: Holz on June 02, 2016, 05:58:27 PM
i also fall into the skip category.
Lol in more ways than one
Hahaha Skip is a good laugh. "My heart is telling me that psychologically the Warriors have the mental edge over the Cavs, but my head tells me that the psychological edge the Warriors have might be undone by Cavs' motivation and willpower" ;D Still better than Stephen A tho.
Highly recommend the 'Disgrace of the Highest Order' series on Youtube if you're familiar with First Take, it's hilarious.
Quote from: Jay on June 02, 2016, 10:47:30 PM
Quote from: plumdog millionaire on June 02, 2016, 10:10:11 PM
Quote from: Holz on June 02, 2016, 05:58:27 PM
i also fall into the skip category.
Lol in more ways than one
Hahaha Skip is a good laugh. "My heart is telling me that psychologically the Warriors have the mental edge over the Cavs, but my head tells me that the psychological edge the Warriors have might be undone by Cavs' motivation and willpower" ;D Still better than Stephen A tho.
Highly recommend the 'Disgrace of the Highest Order' series on Youtube if you're familiar with First Take, it's hilarious.
(http://i.imgur.com/amMEA73.jpg)(https://cdn.meme.am/instances/60051286.jpg)
Quote from: RiOtChEsS on June 03, 2016, 09:15:57 AM
Quote from: Jay on June 02, 2016, 10:47:30 PM
Quote from: plumdog millionaire on June 02, 2016, 10:10:11 PM
Quote from: Holz on June 02, 2016, 05:58:27 PM
i also fall into the skip category.
Lol in more ways than one
Hahaha Skip is a good laugh. "My heart is telling me that psychologically the Warriors have the mental edge over the Cavs, but my head tells me that the psychological edge the Warriors have might be undone by Cavs' motivation and willpower" ;D Still better than Stephen A tho.
Highly recommend the 'Disgrace of the Highest Order' series on Youtube if you're familiar with First Take, it's hilarious.
(http://i.imgur.com/amMEA73.jpg)(https://cdn.meme.am/instances/60051286.jpg)
Annnnnnnnnnnnd for 2016 Stephen A Smith selects... The Warriors :(
Quote from: Jay on June 02, 2016, 10:47:30 PM
Quote from: plumdog millionaire on June 02, 2016, 10:10:11 PM
Quote from: Holz on June 02, 2016, 05:58:27 PM
i also fall into the skip category.
Lol in more ways than one
Hahaha Skip is a good laugh. "My heart is telling me that psychologically the Warriors have the mental edge over the Cavs, but my head tells me that the psychological edge the Warriors have might be undone by Cavs' motivation and willpower" ;D Still better than Stephen A tho.
Highly recommend the 'Disgrace of the Highest Order' series on Youtube if you're familiar with First Take, it's hilarious.
What does he even talk about half the time? And wow just watched 3 episodes, that was gold! Unexpected greatness.
Hawks and Sixers discussing a potential Teague-Noel swap
https://twitter.com/ShamsCharania/status/738488558701318144
Quote from: RiOtChEsS on June 02, 2016, 09:06:49 PM
Quote from: Holz on June 02, 2016, 05:11:24 PM
Quote from: RiOtChEsS on June 02, 2016, 04:39:25 PM
Quote from: Holz on June 02, 2016, 10:18:42 AM
Quote from: plumdog millionaire on June 01, 2016, 10:25:13 PM
If the regular season was as easy as some of you guys are implying those Heat and Lakers (With Pau) teams should have won 70+ games every year. Kobe and LeBron never rested in their primes plus they played more minutes
The greats dont even care about the regular season.
look at the spurs they just turn up win most games and then start their season in the playoffs and they finished 67-15
Their 73 regular season only counts if they win the championship. If not then their 2015 asterix season is ahead of their 2016 season.
Michael Jordan disagrees and he is the greatest https://youtu.be/DIjMR2z1UJs?t=3m44s
Spurs have never won 70 games so why look at them, only 2 teams in history have, it is rarefied air
The 73 win season counts in the history books as the best single season record ever, truly it's in there have a look, indisputable
*Season w0w, this is the same keyboard you support the *Patriots and Tom Brady with right ???
Michael Jordan as the Charlotte owner has shown that he knows very little about current basketball. Fantastic player and basketball IQ for when he is playing. He is a below average removed from that.
amazing talent, amazing athlete, best competitor the game has seen but thats it.
People need to stop saying best season ever, and replace with best regular season ever.
I go for the patriots but im not bias towards them. They wernt the best team last year and I dont think they will be this year. They also probably shouldn't have one against the sea hawks, they got lucky that they didnt run the ball.
You have barely made sense, MJ was talking about winning 70 games, something he is qualified to speak about because he won 70 games, the record is for best regular season im not confused about that, nor is anyone else in this thread.
My point about the asterisks is it is hypocritical to argue the Patriots dont deserve them while you're handing them out to flowering Golden State, i mean what are you smoking ??? the GSW just beat the teams in front of them, they didn't use PED's or try and bend the rules, they simply beat every team in front of them.
I know people are talking about the regular season. But if they are you must say best regular season ever. Not best season, they are two different things. It might only be 1 word but 1 word makes a difference.
no doubt warriors have had the best regular season ever. I personally would have given it to the spurs if they went 41-0 at home as thats perfection.
even if warriors sweep then the best season ever is still the bulls.
yeah there is no asterix on the pats last win. If your calling deflated footballs thats a joke, if your seing the seahawks wernt fully healthy then thats somewhat legit. Its true the warriors only beat whats in front of them and they cant change that. Its the same as saying lebron making 6 straight finals is only because he is in the east. there is truth in that but 6 straight is impressive in anyone's books. especially when its in 2 different teams just shows he is the difference.
anyway go Cavs go.
im not a warriors hater im just saying they are very good, not all time great. People get confused thinking that im calling them scrubs. They can easily beat the cavs they have the game but this is no walkover. It wont be like the 14 Spurs.
A couple of interesting articles
http://basketball.realgm.com/wiretap/242107/76ers-Hawks-Discussing-Nerlens-Noel-For-Jeff-Teague-Deal
http://basketball.realgm.com/wiretap/242105/Ben-Simmons-Hasnt-Committed-To-Workout-For-76ers-Lakers
Quote from: Holz on June 03, 2016, 10:19:53 AM
Quote from: RiOtChEsS on June 02, 2016, 09:06:49 PM
Quote from: Holz on June 02, 2016, 05:11:24 PM
Quote from: RiOtChEsS on June 02, 2016, 04:39:25 PM
Quote from: Holz on June 02, 2016, 10:18:42 AM
Quote from: plumdog millionaire on June 01, 2016, 10:25:13 PM
If the regular season was as easy as some of you guys are implying those Heat and Lakers (With Pau) teams should have won 70+ games every year. Kobe and LeBron never rested in their primes plus they played more minutes
The greats dont even care about the regular season.
look at the spurs they just turn up win most games and then start their season in the playoffs and they finished 67-15
Their 73 regular season only counts if they win the championship. If not then their 2015 asterix season is ahead of their 2016 season.
Michael Jordan disagrees and he is the greatest https://youtu.be/DIjMR2z1UJs?t=3m44s
Spurs have never won 70 games so why look at them, only 2 teams in history have, it is rarefied air
The 73 win season counts in the history books as the best single season record ever, truly it's in there have a look, indisputable
*Season w0w, this is the same keyboard you support the *Patriots and Tom Brady with right ???
Michael Jordan as the Charlotte owner has shown that he knows very little about current basketball. Fantastic player and basketball IQ for when he is playing. He is a below average removed from that.
amazing talent, amazing athlete, best competitor the game has seen but thats it.
People need to stop saying best season ever, and replace with best regular season ever.
I go for the patriots but im not bias towards them. They wernt the best team last year and I dont think they will be this year. They also probably shouldn't have one against the sea hawks, they got lucky that they didnt run the ball.
You have barely made sense, MJ was talking about winning 70 games, something he is qualified to speak about because he won 70 games, the record is for best regular season im not confused about that, nor is anyone else in this thread.
My point about the asterisks is it is hypocritical to argue the Patriots dont deserve them while you're handing them out to flowering Golden State, i mean what are you smoking ??? the GSW just beat the teams in front of them, they didn't use PED's or try and bend the rules, they simply beat every team in front of them.
I know people are talking about the regular season. But if they are you must say best regular season ever. Not best season, they are two different things. It might only be 1 word but 1 word makes a difference.
no doubt warriors have had the best regular season ever. I personally would have given it to the spurs if they went 41-0 at home as thats perfection.
even if warriors sweep then the best season ever is still the bulls.
yeah there is no asterix on the pats last win. If your calling deflated footballs thats a joke, if your seing the seahawks wernt fully healthy then thats somewhat legit. Its true the warriors only beat whats in front of them and they cant change that. Its the same as saying lebron making 6 straight finals is only because he is in the east. there is truth in that but 6 straight is impressive in anyone's books. especially when its in 2 different teams just shows he is the difference.
anyway go Cavs go.
im not a warriors hater im just saying they are very good, not all time great. People get confused thinking that im calling them scrubs. They can easily beat the cavs they have the game but this is no walkover. It wont be like the 14 Spurs.
So why call it "2015 asterisk season"
If you don't believe the Pats last bowl was an asterisk how can you say 2015 GSW is, it's hypocritical imo
Quote from: valkorum on June 03, 2016, 10:25:24 AM
A couple of interesting articles
http://basketball.realgm.com/wiretap/242107/76ers-Hawks-Discussing-Nerlens-Noel-For-Jeff-Teague-Deal
http://basketball.realgm.com/wiretap/242105/Ben-Simmons-Hasnt-Committed-To-Workout-For-76ers-Lakers
going for teague makes no sense unless get more back in return.
if your going to trade out okafor/noel should be a young guy.
I reckon they stuff up the sixers and make a sub par older team with guys like teague then rebuild in 2-3 years.
trust the process.
Game 1 Prediction GSW 91 CLE 85
Quote from: valkorum on June 03, 2016, 10:25:24 AM
A couple of interesting articles
http://basketball.realgm.com/wiretap/242107/76ers-Hawks-Discussing-Nerlens-Noel-For-Jeff-Teague-Deal
http://basketball.realgm.com/wiretap/242105/Ben-Simmons-Hasnt-Committed-To-Workout-For-76ers-Lakers
Great deal for the Hawks, Shroeder has proven he is ready be the top PG in Atlanta
They get a staunch defender to compliment their slick scoring front court
I don't hate it for the 76's either, veteran leadership and ball handling will get them better looks
Could also pave the way to pick Brandon Ingram...
Golden State to win this one, agree it'll be tight though!
Hope Cleveland's D shows up this series
Quote from: RiOtChEsS on June 03, 2016, 11:32:09 AM
Quote from: valkorum on June 03, 2016, 10:25:24 AM
A couple of interesting articles
http://basketball.realgm.com/wiretap/242107/76ers-Hawks-Discussing-Nerlens-Noel-For-Jeff-Teague-Deal
http://basketball.realgm.com/wiretap/242105/Ben-Simmons-Hasnt-Committed-To-Workout-For-76ers-Lakers
Great deal for the Hawks, Shroeder has proven he is ready be the top PG in Atlanta
They get a staunch defender to compliment their slick scoring front court
I don't hate it for the 76's either, veteran leadership and ball handling will get them better looks
Could also pave the way to pick Brandon Ingram...
but when Ingram/Simmons, Okafor, Embiid, Saric are in their prime this guy will be retired.
has been declining since his all star year.
i would rather punt on Dunn then him.
still dont understand why they dont draft Simmons and just stick him at PG.
Simmons, Smith, ?????, Saric, Embiid/Okafor
I reckon they actually target a SF.
Quote from: Holz on June 03, 2016, 12:02:10 PM
Quote from: RiOtChEsS on June 03, 2016, 11:32:09 AM
Quote from: valkorum on June 03, 2016, 10:25:24 AM
A couple of interesting articles
http://basketball.realgm.com/wiretap/242107/76ers-Hawks-Discussing-Nerlens-Noel-For-Jeff-Teague-Deal
http://basketball.realgm.com/wiretap/242105/Ben-Simmons-Hasnt-Committed-To-Workout-For-76ers-Lakers
Great deal for the Hawks, Shroeder has proven he is ready be the top PG in Atlanta
They get a staunch defender to compliment their slick scoring front court
I don't hate it for the 76's either, veteran leadership and ball handling will get them better looks
Could also pave the way to pick Brandon Ingram...
but when Ingram/Simmons, Okafor, Embiid, Saric are in their prime this guy will be retired.
has been declining since his all star year.
i would rather punt on Dunn then him.
still dont understand why they dont draft Simmons and just stick him at PG.
Simmons, Smith, ?????, Saric, Embiid/Okafor
I reckon they actually target a SF.
It's time to start winning, if the PG of the future is getting 20 minutes behind Teague who is passing on intricacies of the craft to him and improving the quality of shots other players it's a big win for the team, in 2 years Teague has done his job, the youth are ready to ascend to bigger things with a solid foundation in place.
Most teams have some veteran leadership and or veteran ball handling
Warriors should be starting Iggy.
Had $20 on Love for 1st bucket at $8, boom! 8)
Oh no, not Varejao...
MJax with the weekly "Barbosa and Livingston additions are so important to this team"
Quote from: jvalles69 on June 03, 2016, 12:14:02 PM
Had $20 on Love for 1st bucket at $8, boom! 8)
winner winner chicken dinner mate 8)
Quote from: Jay on June 03, 2016, 12:46:03 PM
MJax with the weekly "Barbosa and Livingston additions are so important to this team"
how good was that crossover high off glass 8)
Delly missed the ball by 2ft but hit hit the balls flush :o
Quote from: RiOtChEsS on June 03, 2016, 12:46:58 PM
Quote from: jvalles69 on June 03, 2016, 12:14:02 PM
Had $20 on Love for 1st bucket at $8, boom! 8)
winner winner chicken dinner mate 8)
Had Iggy pts,rebs,asts over 17.5 8)
Quote from: RiOtChEsS on June 03, 2016, 12:09:23 PM
Quote from: Holz on June 03, 2016, 12:02:10 PM
Quote from: RiOtChEsS on June 03, 2016, 11:32:09 AM
Quote from: valkorum on June 03, 2016, 10:25:24 AM
A couple of interesting articles
http://basketball.realgm.com/wiretap/242107/76ers-Hawks-Discussing-Nerlens-Noel-For-Jeff-Teague-Deal
http://basketball.realgm.com/wiretap/242105/Ben-Simmons-Hasnt-Committed-To-Workout-For-76ers-Lakers
Great deal for the Hawks, Shroeder has proven he is ready be the top PG in Atlanta
They get a staunch defender to compliment their slick scoring front court
I don't hate it for the 76's either, veteran leadership and ball handling will get them better looks
Could also pave the way to pick Brandon Ingram...
but when Ingram/Simmons, Okafor, Embiid, Saric are in their prime this guy will be retired.
has been declining since his all star year.
i would rather punt on Dunn then him.
still dont understand why they dont draft Simmons and just stick him at PG.
Simmons, Smith, ?????, Saric, Embiid/Okafor
I reckon they actually target a SF.
It's time to start winning, if the PG of the future is getting 20 minutes behind Teague who is passing on intricacies of the craft to him and improving the quality of shots other players it's a big win for the team, in 2 years Teague has done his job, the youth are ready to ascend to bigger things with a solid foundation in place.
Most teams have some veteran leadership and or veteran ball handling
But is it worth giving up a potential defensive powerhouse for a few years of veteran leadership? I'm not totally against it, I like Teague, but I definitely think they're getting the worst end of the deal. Unfortunately by having so many big men they've backed themselves into a corner now with Embiid and Saric coming back. They need to make a deal
this offseason and I think other teams realise that. Sticky situation.
Also if this goes to game 7 (as I'm predicting), am I the only one who thinks it should be on a neutral court? How good would game seven be at MSG! Instead, the Warriors get a huge advantage if it goes that far. I understand it with seeding throughout the conferences but the ultimate game of the season should be at the Mecca of basketball. Just an idea stemming from AFL but one that has a lot of merit IMO.
Hmmmm...
(http://i.imgur.com/bYSqKAJ.png)
Iggy with another good performance in a finals game.
The Warriors bench was amazing
76ers need to get some shooters in the side if they plan on drafting Simmons. He has the playmaking ability but his shooting is off. If they can't put shooters in the side around him while he develops then its gonna be a long season for Simmons and the 76ers
Quote from: My Chumps on June 03, 2016, 02:48:12 PM
Hmmmm...
(http://i.imgur.com/bYSqKAJ.png)
Has to sting considering in the 4th Klay and Steph were both under 10 points while 6 others were in double digits #wonthappenagain
Quote from: My Chumps on June 03, 2016, 02:06:26 PM
Quote from: RiOtChEsS on June 03, 2016, 12:09:23 PM
Quote from: Holz on June 03, 2016, 12:02:10 PM
Quote from: RiOtChEsS on June 03, 2016, 11:32:09 AM
Quote from: valkorum on June 03, 2016, 10:25:24 AM
A couple of interesting articles
http://basketball.realgm.com/wiretap/242107/76ers-Hawks-Discussing-Nerlens-Noel-For-Jeff-Teague-Deal
http://basketball.realgm.com/wiretap/242105/Ben-Simmons-Hasnt-Committed-To-Workout-For-76ers-Lakers
Great deal for the Hawks, Shroeder has proven he is ready be the top PG in Atlanta
They get a staunch defender to compliment their slick scoring front court
I don't hate it for the 76's either, veteran leadership and ball handling will get them better looks
Could also pave the way to pick Brandon Ingram...
but when Ingram/Simmons, Okafor, Embiid, Saric are in their prime this guy will be retired.
has been declining since his all star year.
i would rather punt on Dunn then him.
still dont understand why they dont draft Simmons and just stick him at PG.
Simmons, Smith, ?????, Saric, Embiid/Okafor
I reckon they actually target a SF.
It's time to start winning, if the PG of the future is getting 20 minutes behind Teague who is passing on intricacies of the craft to him and improving the quality of shots other players it's a big win for the team, in 2 years Teague has done his job, the youth are ready to ascend to bigger things with a solid foundation in place.
Most teams have some veteran leadership and or veteran ball handling
But is it worth giving up a potential defensive powerhouse for a few years of veteran leadership? I'm not totally against it, I like Teague, but I definitely think they're getting the worst end of the deal. Unfortunately by having so many big men they've backed themselves into a corner now with Embiid and Saric coming back. They need to make a deal this offseason and I think other teams realise that. Sticky situation.
Also if this goes to game 7 (as I'm predicting), am I the only one who thinks it should be on a neutral court? How good would game seven be at MSG! Instead, the Warriors get a huge advantage if it goes that far. I understand it with seeding throughout the conferences but the ultimate game of the season should be at the Mecca of basketball. Just an idea stemming from AFL but one that has a lot of merit IMO.
Tbh i don't think Noel is an elite defender, his post game is poor, his shot is broke and free throws a joke ;D
He gets defensive stats but fundamentally he wont be great, on a good team he is a role player at best
Last 10 games LeBron has lost Game 1, LeBron is 10-0 in Game 2s
That trade is the epitome of stupid. You can move the young guys on but you need to get decent value in return, Teague for Noel the 6'ers are getting bent over in a situation they don't need to be. If BC makes the trade it's truly ishing on what Hinkie was trying to do.
Teague is out of contract, he probably won't commit to Philly and ask for a max at the end of next year. So you're basically trading Nerlans for what could be a one year rental. Also for the record, PG's generally have their best season at 26. Further looking at the contract situation I read this and it sums it up perfectly.
'Bismack Biyombo is going go get $15 million a year this summer; Noel is still on his rookie deal for one more year, and the Sixers will be able sign him to an Early Bird extension this summer for a starting salary of no more than 25 percent of the 2017-18 salary cap. Teague, who is on a cheap contract now, will be a free agent in one year. His max salary will be 30 percent of the 2017-18 salary cap. He will also likely put up huge box score numbers in 2016-17 as the only fully functional guard on the team (no offense to Robert Covington or Ish Smith), and given the price the Sixers will have paid for him, it'd be a disaster for Philly to let him walk. Teague will be mighty expensive next summer if the Sixers trade for him this summer.'
If you draft Simmons he'll basically be running the point anyway. You want players to compliment him not a ball dominant point guard.
Still, even with playing out of position, Noel has accumulated 251 steals and 242 blocks so far in his two-year career. Here’s an extensive list of players who accumulated at least 250 steals and 240 blocks in the first two seasons of their NBA careers, dating back to the 1973-74 season, when steals and blocks were first recorded:
David Robinson
Nerlens Noel
That is all.
Again, not opposed to trading him, but not for Jeff Teague
Nerlens Noel isn't some transformational defender like Philly fans make him out to be, but he's sure as heck worth more than Jeff Teague!
Quote from: Jay on June 05, 2016, 02:46:41 PM
Nerlens Noel isn't some transformational defender like Philly fans make him out to be, but he's sure as heck worth more than Jeff Teague!
That being said, I would take him on the Celtics in a heartbeat. If they draft Chriss:
IT, Smart, Jae, Chriss, Noel (Assuming any trade would involve AB). So much defence.
Quote from: plumdog millionaire on June 05, 2016, 04:46:05 PM
Quote from: Jay on June 05, 2016, 02:46:41 PM
Nerlens Noel isn't some transformational defender like Philly fans make him out to be, but he's sure as heck worth more than Jeff Teague!
That being said, I would take him on the Celtics in a heartbeat. If they draft Chriss:
IT, Smart, Jae, Chriss, Noel (Assuming any trade would involve AB). So much defence.
I'd love him on the Celtics. Certainly would prefer him to Okafor.
When MJax says that Klay Thompson is the best two-way player in the league sans LeBron.
(http://thesportsquotient.com/media/posts/10930/kawhi-leonard-smiling.png)
How'd you find a photo of Kawhi smiling? :o
Come on Cavs, please make this an interesting series.
Bogut is swattin shower left right and centre
Never would have thought I'd be seeing Richard Jefferson play meaningful minutes in the finals at this age!
Warriors are on.
far out can somebody besides lebron do something
14 points 6 rebounds 7 assits 4 steals he is on fire
Irving Smith Love combined for 12.
LeCrab gettin called :D
Quote from: Holz on June 06, 2016, 12:16:10 PM
far out can somebody besides lebron do something
14 points 6 rebounds 7 assits 4 steals he is on fire
Irving Smith Love combined for 12.
5/13 shooting, 6 TO's, and -16 tho?
Skip Bayless
@RealSkipBayless
Only Cav playing like HE REALLY WANTS THIS is J.R. Smith.
Hahahahah yeah the rest of the Cavs are like "Nah we don't want to win a title, we're good."
I remember when we had a Draymond vs Kyrie debate on here :P
Quote from: Jay on June 06, 2016, 12:54:33 PM
I remember when we had a Draymond vs Kyrie debate on here :P
I was about to bring this up!
GET CURRY OUT OF THE GAME. WHY DOES KERR ALWAYS DO THIS
Seems like WCF was the real finals!
Quote from: plumdog millionaire on June 06, 2016, 12:55:37 PM
Quote from: Jay on June 06, 2016, 12:54:33 PM
I remember when we had a Draymond vs Kyrie debate on here :P
I was about to bring this up!
his one good game. He was terrible in the last series and if they were eliminated the blame should have gone almost 50% to him alone.
Irving hasnt been great though.
where were you last series Jay?
or game 1.
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i reckon this is abit of an overreaction.
game 1 cavs were right in it.
nobody has won a game away from home yet.
Cavs go from the best 3 point shooting team in playoffs history to 5 in a game.
When Golden State play well - 33 point win
When Cleveland plays well - 5 point win tops?
Quote from: My Chumps on June 06, 2016, 01:27:17 PM
Seems like WCF was the real finals!
This! Seems like the clear 3 best teams were all from the west. #RemoveConferences
Pretty happy with the $10 bet I chucked on Draymond for finals MVP @12 a few weeks back
Quote from: My Chumps on June 06, 2016, 05:13:39 PM
Pretty happy with the $10 bet I chucked on Draymond for finals MVP @12 a few weeks back
wow that looks like really low odds for a few weeks back.
Quote from: Holz on June 06, 2016, 01:42:27 PM
nobody has won a game away from home yet.
That is because Golden State haven't played away from home... Kinda irrelevant argument since what happen when Golden State played in Cleveland this season
I reckon Iggy is a good shot at getting the finals mvp after the 2 matches so far
Quote from: Holz on June 06, 2016, 05:20:15 PM
Quote from: My Chumps on June 06, 2016, 05:13:39 PM
Pretty happy with the $10 bet I chucked on Draymond for finals MVP @12 a few weeks back
wow that looks like really low odds for a few weeks back.
pre OKC series. IIRC it was something like Steph @2, LBJ @3.5 then Kyrie, Dray, Durant, Westbrook etc @10+
Steph played 25 minutes today, and no Warriors starter went above 35 minutes (Could have played less). 3 day break till game three also
Quote from: My Chumps on June 06, 2016, 05:13:39 PM
Pretty happy with the $10 bet I chucked on Draymond for finals MVP @12 a few weeks back
Quote from: Cookie311993 on June 06, 2016, 05:47:16 PM
I reckon Iggy is a good shot at getting the finals mvp after the 2 matches so far
Both the guys i bet on, also stuck a "why not bet" on Channing Frye @201
So what do the Cavs need to do in order to make this a series again?
Quote from: plumdog millionaire on June 08, 2016, 12:30:18 PM
So what do the Cavs need to do in order to make this a series again?
just hit their shots.
this is their 3 points made
Toronto 7/20, 9/33,
14/41,
13/41,10/21, 17/31 43/105 = 41% in wins 27/82 = 33% in losses
Warriors 7/21, 5/23 12/44 = 27%
They are a great 3 point team and the warriors dont have great D, i actually think the Cavs are abit too inexperienced. Love Irving this is basically their first finals.
Warriors looked very nervous last year but the injuries handed them the championship and broke the nervousness, thats what has made them soo great. Young teams rarely catch a break like that, look how hard Jordan had to play to win his first.
Quote from: plumdog millionaire on June 08, 2016, 12:30:18 PM
So what do the Cavs need to do in order to make this a series again?
Lebron needs to forget he plays with other players and take GSW 1 on 5 on offense. Stupid as it sounds, it's the only way the Cavs have a shot.
Quote from: Holz on June 08, 2016, 12:38:57 PM
Quote from: plumdog millionaire on June 08, 2016, 12:30:18 PM
So what do the Cavs need to do in order to make this a series again?
just hit their shots.
this is their 3 points made
Toronto 7/20, 9/33,14/41, 13/41,10/21, 17/31 43/105 = 41% in wins 27/82 = 33% in losses
Warriors 7/21, 5/23 12/44 = 27%
They are a great 3 point team and the warriors dont have great D, i actually think the Cavs are abit too inexperienced. Love Irving this is basically their first finals.
Warriors looked very nervous last year but the injuries handed them the championship and broke the nervousness, thats what has made them soo great. Young teams rarely catch a break like that, look how hard Jordan had to play to win his first.
You should check if that's true before saying it
Quote from: plumdog millionaire on June 08, 2016, 12:30:18 PM
So what do the Cavs need to do in order to make this a series again?
Start Shump over JR. And with Love out they should start Frye. Irving/Shump/LBJ/Frye/TT.
Put LeBron at the elbow, let him go to work, drive to the rim and try to find an open shooter. Thompson's man will help on LeBron but you need to keep him in there for his offensive rebounding. Warriors will probably try to make Shumpert beat them with his jumpshot, which I doubt he can do, but I think its the best chance they've got. One way to compete against the Warriors is crash the boards vs their small lineup. Which is why the Cavs going small wont really work too well. Thompson has to dominate the glass, and most importantly they need to hit their shots. Two or three of Frye, Irving, Shump and JR need to get hot from three. Shooting more threes makes the game more random, which the Cavs have to do now.
Shump is their best Curry defender imo, I'd just give him a shot guarding him 1v1 and not switching everything on D. Everything is a long shot at this stage, but I do expect them to play a lot better at home.
Warriors aren't allowing many open shots, their switching on D is preventing the need for weak side help, which means guys like Frye, JR, Love aren't getting wide open opportunities.
I think the Cavs just need to get their defensive strategy straight, and communicate well so the Warriors don't get bunnies at the basket. No Love will help that. And put LeBron in more situations where 3 guys can't sag off onto him and cramp the spacing, which they desperately need
Quote from: plumdog millionaire on June 08, 2016, 01:08:05 PM
Warriors aren't allowing many open shots, their switching on D is preventing the need for weak side help, which means guys like Frye, JR, Love aren't getting wide open opportunities.
I think the Cavs just need to get their defensive strategy straight, and communicate well so the Warriors don't get bunnies at the basket. No Love will help that. And put LeBron in more situations where 3 guys can't sag off onto him and cramp the spacing, which they desperately need
They've just got to shoot even if they aren't open tbh.
The huge problem that the Cavs have is that LeBron cannot shoot. They're just going under every PnR, and then having 3 bodies near him when he's going to the basket. I'd be keen to see them using LeBron as the roll man in a PnR a few times. Like what Golden State does with Draymond.
Quote from: plumdog millionaire on June 08, 2016, 12:47:44 PM
Quote from: Holz on June 08, 2016, 12:38:57 PM
Quote from: plumdog millionaire on June 08, 2016, 12:30:18 PM
So what do the Cavs need to do in order to make this a series again?
just hit their shots.
this is their 3 points made
Toronto 7/20, 9/33,14/41, 13/41,10/21, 17/31 43/105 = 41% in wins 27/82 = 33% in losses
Warriors 7/21, 5/23 12/44 = 27%
They are a great 3 point team and the warriors dont have great D, i actually think the Cavs are abit too inexperienced. Love Irving this is basically their first finals.
Warriors looked very nervous last year but the injuries handed them the championship and broke the nervousness, thats what has made them soo great. Young teams rarely catch a break like that, look how hard Jordan had to play to win his first.
You should check if that's true before saying it
their adjusted defensive rating is 7th in the league. Below the hawks at 2 who the Cavs torched and just above the cavs. They are in a 3 way tie for 4th in defensive efficiency and again well below the hawks and not too far ahead of Toronto.
so no they dont have great defense they have good defense. They have great offense.
the cavs shooting 27% is more about them being nervous being in the finals then the warriors doing great D.
also can we please just get rid of kevin love. the guy doesnt show up when its crunch time.
all he does is put up big points when the game is over.
even his game 1 where he was ok he shot 41% got 13 boards which is good but then 2 assists and 4 turnovers.
which we had wiggins back.
something needs to be done, cant have a big man who cant defend or shoot.
Either Lebron isn't the same player he once was and he knows it, or he needs to shoot the ball 30+ times in game 3. He's forcing so many passes and turning to over far too much. If they sag off you, shoot! You're not a terrible jump shooter and you need to remind people that.
In the 2013 series vs the Spurs, Kawhi sagged off all series and did a terrific job defending at the hoop, kept LBJ to less than 20 in the first three games. Then finally, he flowering realised then when he's wide open on the three point line he's gonna hit it more often than not, and that in turn opened up more opportunities to be aggressive and get to the rim. Watch game 7 highlights, he hits everything cause they leave him open.
So many times in this series they've gone under the pick and role and left him effectively wide open at the elbow, but he refuses to pull up and shoot. Just do it. Do it often. Stop throwing bad passes when you attack the rim and turning it over.
Quote from: Jay on June 08, 2016, 01:20:50 PM
Quote from: plumdog millionaire on June 08, 2016, 01:08:05 PM
Warriors aren't allowing many open shots, their switching on D is preventing the need for weak side help, which means guys like Frye, JR, Love aren't getting wide open opportunities.
I think the Cavs just need to get their defensive strategy straight, and communicate well so the Warriors don't get bunnies at the basket. No Love will help that. And put LeBron in more situations where 3 guys can't sag off onto him and cramp the spacing, which they desperately need
They've just got to shoot even if they aren't open tbh.
The huge problem that the Cavs have is that LeBron cannot shoot. They're just going under every PnR, and then having 3 bodies near him when he's going to the basket. I'd be keen to see them using LeBron as the roll man in a PnR a few times. Like what Golden State does with Draymond.
That could get more LeBron on Curry mismatches if they screened for Curry's man, advantage LeBron there.
But the biggest problem is the Cavs' defence imo. It was their problem going into the series and their half court as well as transition D has been terrible. Though at home I could see it improving a bit, but it has to be more than a bit if they want to win the series.
Quote from: Holz on June 08, 2016, 01:39:41 PM
Quote from: plumdog millionaire on June 08, 2016, 12:47:44 PM
Quote from: Holz on June 08, 2016, 12:38:57 PM
Quote from: plumdog millionaire on June 08, 2016, 12:30:18 PM
So what do the Cavs need to do in order to make this a series again?
just hit their shots.
this is their 3 points made
Toronto 7/20, 9/33,14/41, 13/41,10/21, 17/31 43/105 = 41% in wins 27/82 = 33% in losses
Warriors 7/21, 5/23 12/44 = 27%
They are a great 3 point team and the warriors dont have great D, i actually think the Cavs are abit too inexperienced. Love Irving this is basically their first finals.
Warriors looked very nervous last year but the injuries handed them the championship and broke the nervousness, thats what has made them soo great. Young teams rarely catch a break like that, look how hard Jordan had to play to win his first.
You should check if that's true before saying it
their adjusted defensive rating is 7th in the league. Below the hawks at 2 who the Cavs torched and just above the cavs. They are in a 3 way tie for 4th in defensive efficiency and again well below the hawks and not too far ahead of Toronto.
so no they dont have great defense they have good defense. They have great offense.
the cavs shooting 27% is more about them being nervous being in the finals then the warriors doing great D.
You're talking regular season though and apparently it doesn't matter
Also, was just having a look through some playoff lineup data. Of all lineups that have played 75 minutes together, Delly/Shump/LBJ/Jefferson/Frye is first with a net rating of 41. The next best has an 18 net rating. Obviously strength of opponent is not accounted for there, but I really like that lineup for Cleveland. You have your 3 best defensive players out there, and would actually allow for the switching strategy to work okay. And obviously need Frye out there as a lethal catch and shoot guy.
I said last year that the Cavs would not have been much better off, if at all in the finals, should Irving and Love had been healthy. They are just so bad defensively, that against the Warriors you just can't survive. Having guys like Delly, Shumpert and Thompson out there are just as valuable as Irving and Love in this series.
Quote from: Jay on June 08, 2016, 03:45:50 PM
Also, was just having a look through some playoff lineup data. Of all lineups that have played 75 minutes together, Delly/Shump/LBJ/Jefferson/Frye is first with a net rating of 41. The next best has an 18 net rating. Obviously strength of opponent is not accounted for there, but I really like that lineup for Cleveland. You have your 3 best defensive players out there, and would actually allow for the switching strategy to work okay. And obviously need Frye out there as a lethal catch and shoot guy.
I said last year that the Cavs would not have been much better off, if at all in the finals, should Irving and Love had been healthy. They are just so bad defensively, that against the Warriors you just can't survive. Having guys like Delly, Shumpert and Thompson out there are just as valuable as Irving and Love in this series.
You were saying before they should play Thompson for his rebounding, so would you prefer him in or not?
Quote from: plumdog millionaire on June 08, 2016, 02:41:43 PM
Quote from: Holz on June 08, 2016, 01:39:41 PM
Quote from: plumdog millionaire on June 08, 2016, 12:47:44 PM
Quote from: Holz on June 08, 2016, 12:38:57 PM
Quote from: plumdog millionaire on June 08, 2016, 12:30:18 PM
So what do the Cavs need to do in order to make this a series again?
just hit their shots.
this is their 3 points made
Toronto 7/20, 9/33,14/41, 13/41,10/21, 17/31 43/105 = 41% in wins 27/82 = 33% in losses
Warriors 7/21, 5/23 12/44 = 27%
They are a great 3 point team and the warriors dont have great D, i actually think the Cavs are abit too inexperienced. Love Irving this is basically their first finals.
Warriors looked very nervous last year but the injuries handed them the championship and broke the nervousness, thats what has made them soo great. Young teams rarely catch a break like that, look how hard Jordan had to play to win his first.
If the Cavs can't win because they are too inexperienced isn't that saying if Irving and Love played last year they would have lost anyway?
Also with only "good" defence how did they break the regular season record?
Quote from: R.Griffen on June 08, 2016, 04:00:14 PM
Quote from: plumdog millionaire on June 08, 2016, 02:41:43 PM
Quote from: Holz on June 08, 2016, 01:39:41 PM
Quote from: plumdog millionaire on June 08, 2016, 12:47:44 PM
Quote from: Holz on June 08, 2016, 12:38:57 PM
Quote from: plumdog millionaire on June 08, 2016, 12:30:18 PM
So what do the Cavs need to do in order to make this a series again?
just hit their shots.
this is their 3 points made
Toronto 7/20, 9/33,14/41, 13/41,10/21, 17/31 43/105 = 41% in wins 27/82 = 33% in losses
Warriors 7/21, 5/23 12/44 = 27%
They are a great 3 point team and the warriors dont have great D, i actually think the Cavs are abit too inexperienced. Love Irving this is basically their first finals.
Warriors looked very nervous last year but the injuries handed them the championship and broke the nervousness, thats what has made them soo great. Young teams rarely catch a break like that, look how hard Jordan had to play to win his first.
If the Cavs can't win because they are too inexperienced isn't that saying if Irving and Love played last year they would have lost anyway?
Also with only "good" defence how did they break the regular season record?
1.If the Cavs can't win because they are too inexperienced isn't that saying if Irving and Love played last year they would have lost anyway?
the warriors where also inexperienced, Lebron was the only star who had been there before. If just Irving was healthy i legit think cavs win the series and the warriors would still be trying to get their first win. Winning once does a great deal for your ocnifdence just ask lebron.
2. Also with only "good" defence how did they break the regular season record?
Because their offense was soo much better then the rest of the comp.
3. You're talking regular season though and apparently it doesn't matter
true to a point but its the biggest sample size, havent heard anything saying that warriors have suddenly lifted their defense. The thunder series they just out gunned them with both teams going big.
Quote from: plumdog millionaire on June 08, 2016, 03:57:38 PM
Quote from: Jay on June 08, 2016, 03:45:50 PM
Also, was just having a look through some playoff lineup data. Of all lineups that have played 75 minutes together, Delly/Shump/LBJ/Jefferson/Frye is first with a net rating of 41. The next best has an 18 net rating. Obviously strength of opponent is not accounted for there, but I really like that lineup for Cleveland. You have your 3 best defensive players out there, and would actually allow for the switching strategy to work okay. And obviously need Frye out there as a lethal catch and shoot guy.
I said last year that the Cavs would not have been much better off, if at all in the finals, should Irving and Love had been healthy. They are just so bad defensively, that against the Warriors you just can't survive. Having guys like Delly, Shumpert and Thompson out there are just as valuable as Irving and Love in this series.
You were saying before they should play Thompson for his rebounding, so would you prefer him in or not?
It's a tough one, but I think I prefer Thompson in there playing with Frye. The point of this post was just that if they want to go small, then it should be with defensive minded guards and wings not guys like Irving, Love and JR who the Warriors can easily take advantage of. But yeah if it was me, I think going bigger is the slightly better strategy. Overall, it's all just throwing darts and see which one hits really.
Agree to disagree, so far Warriors have played very good D, Zach Lowe/Nate Duncan/Others have said as much and I trust them 100% with it. There's no 'nervous'-ness at play here, only Skip Bayless would say something like that
Quote from: plumdog millionaire on June 08, 2016, 04:17:26 PM
Agree to disagree, so far Warriors have played very good D, Zach Lowe/Nate Duncan/Others have said as much and I trust them 100% with it. There's no 'nervous'-ness at play here, only Skip Bayless would say something like that
i think its more to do with love isnt very good and is a massive liability on offense.
Irving just isnt ready yet and not sure he meshes with James perfectly, kinda like Durrant Westbrook.
remember im a lebron fan and a Irving fan not a cavs fan. Lebron will almost always turn up.
Quote from: Holz on June 08, 2016, 04:21:32 PM
Quote from: plumdog millionaire on June 08, 2016, 04:17:26 PM
Agree to disagree, so far Warriors have played very good D, Zach Lowe/Nate Duncan/Others have said as much and I trust them 100% with it. There's no 'nervous'-ness at play here, only Skip Bayless would say something like that
i think its more to do with love isnt very good and is a massive liability on offense.
Irving just isnt ready yet and not sure he meshes with James perfectly, kinda like Durrant Westbrook.
remember im a lebron fan and a Irving fan not a cavs fan. Lebron will almost always turn up.
Kevin Love to Boston for two 2nd rounders confirmed
Quote from: plumdog millionaire on June 08, 2016, 04:24:46 PM
Quote from: Holz on June 08, 2016, 04:21:32 PM
Quote from: plumdog millionaire on June 08, 2016, 04:17:26 PM
Agree to disagree, so far Warriors have played very good D, Zach Lowe/Nate Duncan/Others have said as much and I trust them 100% with it. There's no 'nervous'-ness at play here, only Skip Bayless would say something like that
i think its more to do with love isnt very good and is a massive liability on offense.
Irving just isnt ready yet and not sure he meshes with James perfectly, kinda like Durrant Westbrook.
remember im a lebron fan and a Irving fan not a cavs fan. Lebron will almost always turn up.
Kevin Love to Boston for two 2nd rounders confirmed
is it possible to give him away for free/ trade him and then fit Durrant under the cap?
durrant wont do it just want to see if possible.
Quote from: Holz on June 08, 2016, 04:41:21 PM
Quote from: plumdog millionaire on June 08, 2016, 04:24:46 PM
Quote from: Holz on June 08, 2016, 04:21:32 PM
Quote from: plumdog millionaire on June 08, 2016, 04:17:26 PM
Agree to disagree, so far Warriors have played very good D, Zach Lowe/Nate Duncan/Others have said as much and I trust them 100% with it. There's no 'nervous'-ness at play here, only Skip Bayless would say something like that
i think its more to do with love isnt very good and is a massive liability on offense.
Irving just isnt ready yet and not sure he meshes with James perfectly, kinda like Durrant Westbrook.
remember im a lebron fan and a Irving fan not a cavs fan. Lebron will almost always turn up.
Kevin Love to Boston for two 2nd rounders confirmed
is it possible to give him away for free/ trade him and then fit Durrant under the cap?
durrant wont do it just want to see if possible.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wcz_kDCBTBk
Sounds like you're looking for excuses already Holz
Quote from: JBs-Hawks on June 08, 2016, 05:21:49 PM
Sounds like you're looking for excuses already Holz
never liked Love.
Lebron and Irving certainly have the game to beat the the warriors alone. Im still tipping them to take game 3 and 4 and then its anyone's game.
but wow I wish i could cheer on James irving and Wiggins
Wiggins wouldnt have helped much
Quote from: JBs-Hawks on June 08, 2016, 05:41:32 PM
Wiggins wouldnt have helped much
on defence he would have been great plus would have allowed more cap to spend.
Irving Shump James Wiggins TT in a small ball team would be great.
Quote from: Jay on June 08, 2016, 06:42:51 PM
Quote from: JBs-Hawks on June 08, 2016, 05:41:32 PM
Wiggins wouldnt have helped at all
But he scored 21 points per game this season! They lost game 1 89-104 with his +21 they would have won 110-104 \s
Kevin Love is a really good basketball player!!
Quote from: plumdog millionaire on June 08, 2016, 06:50:10 PM
Quote from: Jay on June 08, 2016, 06:42:51 PM
Quote from: JBs-Hawks on June 08, 2016, 05:41:32 PM
Wiggins wouldnt have helped at all
But he scored 21 points per game this season! They lost game 1 89-104 with his +21 they would have won 110-104 \s
I always read this thread and generally don't comment, but this made me chuckle. Love it haha
Quote from: elephants on June 09, 2016, 01:10:08 AM
Quote from: plumdog millionaire on June 08, 2016, 06:50:10 PM
Quote from: Jay on June 08, 2016, 06:42:51 PM
Quote from: JBs-Hawks on June 08, 2016, 05:41:32 PM
Wiggins wouldnt have helped at all
But he scored 21 points per game this season! They lost game 1 89-104 with his +21 they would have won 110-104 \s
I always read this thread and generally don't comment, but this made me chuckle. Love it haha
Yep it's cute ;D
Richard Jefferson starting with Love out. Lacks some Channing Frye tbh.
Quote from: Jay on June 09, 2016, 10:36:18 AM
Richard Jefferson starting with Love out. Lacks some Channing Frye tbh.
surely he comes of the bench alot.
If cavs win big today i think love has to go.
Cavs come out 9-0
wasn't this series supposed to be over? :P
please Cavs for the love of god make this a semi-entertaining series
Quote from: Holz on June 09, 2016, 12:15:49 PM
Cavs come out 9-0
wasn't this series supposed to be over? :P
After a combined 48 point loss you say the series is still tight and after being 9-0 up you say it's not over, lol
Quote from: plumdog millionaire on June 09, 2016, 12:21:05 PM
Quote from: Holz on June 09, 2016, 12:15:49 PM
Cavs come out 9-0
wasn't this series supposed to be over? :P
After a combined 48 point loss you say the series is still tight and after being 9-0 up you say it's not over, lol
isnt that showing consistency?
I never cared how much they lost by. Warriors won 2 at home. Cavs can win 2 at their home and its 2-2.
Game 1 was close and they could have won that. Game 2 they got blown out.
UNCLE DREW'S BACK
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Go Irving Go,
please cavs dont trade Irving.
Lebron could have 25 already if he would stop trying those low % fading shots in close, pump fake, attack the rim
Quote from: RiOtChEsS on June 09, 2016, 01:14:25 PM
Lebron could have 25 already if he would stop trying those low % fading shots in close, pump fake, attack the rim
I know if they lose this game im actually going to put the blame on him.
at least he hasn't shot a 3
whats interesting is if the warriors do win who do you give the MVP too?
I would have to say Green would be in the lead or Iggy again for slowing lebron.
Curry more turnovers then points.
WHAT DID I SAY
SEE WHAT HAPPENS WHEN THEY GIVE YOU ROOM LEBRON. YOU'RE NOT A BAD JUMP SHOOTER. MAKE EM GUARD YOU OUT THERE
Quote from: Holz on June 09, 2016, 01:27:27 PM
Quote from: RiOtChEsS on June 09, 2016, 01:14:25 PM
Lebron could have 25 already if he would stop trying those low % fading shots in close, pump fake, attack the rim
I know if they lose this game im actually going to put the blame on him.
at least he hasn't shot a 3
stood up when he needed too
9 points in 3 minutes on a 12-5 run to buffer the lead.
Irving still the star though and TT on the boards.
Kevin Who?
After today, Cleveland probably should not start Love if he's even active for game 5.
I didn't think Stephen A's drivel could get worse, boy do i feel silly ::)
Quote from: Jay on June 09, 2016, 03:15:53 PM
After today, Cleveland probably should not start Love if he's even active for game 5.
would you start wiggins? :P
Quote from: Holz on June 09, 2016, 03:29:59 PM
Quote from: Jay on June 09, 2016, 03:15:53 PM
After today, Cleveland probably should not start Love if he's even active for game 5.
would you start wiggins? :P
Nah they need to start Wilt, he averaged 30 :D
Quote from: Holz on June 09, 2016, 03:29:59 PM
Quote from: Jay on June 09, 2016, 03:15:53 PM
After today, Cleveland probably should not start Love if he's even active for game 5.
would you start wiggins? :P
Would Wiggins really offer more than Jefferson in this series?
I like Love and hope Boston can trade for him on the cheap, he's just a horrible matchup here. And they should do what I thought the Spurs should have done with Duncan and only play him where Curry is out of the game, or when he can match up with the Warriors bench unit e.g. a Speights or Ezeli type
Love stock plummeting, hope the Celts can snap him up cheap as you said J.
Good to see Cleveland's D show up for the sake of the series. If LeBron can stay hot shooting wise that will unlock so much offense for the Cavs.
One thing heading into game 4. If Golden State are going to win on the road, Steph just has to play better. A PER of 13.2 in these finals so far is garbage. Yes its difficult because Cleveland are constantly trapping him, but he's the best player in the league - needs to play like it if they want to wrap this thing up soon.
Those of you knocking Love have clearly never used him on 2k16... Actually a god from downtown somehow haha
Quote from: Jay on June 09, 2016, 11:09:28 PM
One thing heading into game 4. If Golden State are going to win on the road, Steph just has to play better. A PER of 13.2 in these finals so far is garbage. Yes its difficult because Cleveland are constantly trapping him, but he's the best player in the league - needs to play like it if they want to wrap this thing up soon.
he isnt the best player in the league and its showing.
he isnt a scrub but its proving to me that Leonard James and potentially Durrant/Westbrook are better (despite their chocking)
back to back MVPs without a finals MVP is interesting.
Have had to see social media posts after the first 2 games talking about the margins Cavs are being beaten by, Cavs win by 30+ and shower is silent. ::)
Quote from: jvalles69 on June 10, 2016, 02:30:26 PM
Have had to see social media posts after the first 2 games talking about the margins Cavs are being beaten by, Cavs win by 30+ and shower is silent. ::)
curry and the warriors can do no wrong, everyone knows that.
can you imagine the noise is lebron scored 2 in a half.
I think there was a stat with the lowest score through 3 games in a final from a player who has gone 30+ in the regular and curry was like 49 with 2nd and 3rd being around 80.
Quote from: Jay on June 09, 2016, 11:09:28 PM
One thing heading into game 4. If Golden State are going to win on the road, Steph just has to play better. A PER of 13.2 in these finals so far is garbage. Yes its difficult because Cleveland are constantly trapping him, but he's the best player in the league - needs to play like it if they want to wrap this thing up soon.
Sure Steph "can play better" and the Warriors are up 2-1 ;)
Personally i dont really care as long as the Warriors win the series
Quote from: Holz on June 10, 2016, 01:12:50 PM
Quote from: Jay on June 09, 2016, 11:09:28 PM
One thing heading into game 4. If Golden State are going to win on the road, Steph just has to play better. A PER of 13.2 in these finals so far is garbage. Yes its difficult because Cleveland are constantly trapping him, but he's the best player in the league - needs to play like it if they want to wrap this thing up soon.
he isnt the best player in the league and its showing.
No, he is the worlds best player. Didn't know a few "poor" games meant you weren't the best player anymore?
Quote from: R.Griffen on June 10, 2016, 06:01:10 PM
Quote from: Holz on June 10, 2016, 01:12:50 PM
Quote from: Jay on June 09, 2016, 11:09:28 PM
One thing heading into game 4. If Golden State are going to win on the road, Steph just has to play better. A PER of 13.2 in these finals so far is garbage. Yes its difficult because Cleveland are constantly trapping him, but he's the best player in the league - needs to play like it if they want to wrap this thing up soon.
he isnt the best player in the league and its showing.
No, he is the worlds best player. Didn't know a few "poor" games meant you weren't the best player anymore?
No its not having a few poor games its other players having superior Defense and or passing ability and then offense not far behind his.
Quote from: Holz on June 10, 2016, 06:03:07 PM
Quote from: R.Griffen on June 10, 2016, 06:01:10 PM
Quote from: Holz on June 10, 2016, 01:12:50 PM
Quote from: Jay on June 09, 2016, 11:09:28 PM
One thing heading into game 4. If Golden State are going to win on the road, Steph just has to play better. A PER of 13.2 in these finals so far is garbage. Yes its difficult because Cleveland are constantly trapping him, but he's the best player in the league - needs to play like it if they want to wrap this thing up soon.
he isnt the best player in the league and its showing.
No, he is the worlds best player. Didn't know a few "poor" games meant you weren't the best player anymore?
No its not having a few poor games its other players having superior Defense and or passing ability and then offense not far behind his.
And the ability to win games of basketball
Quote from: R.Griffen on June 10, 2016, 06:08:36 PM
Quote from: Holz on June 10, 2016, 06:03:07 PM
Quote from: R.Griffen on June 10, 2016, 06:01:10 PM
Quote from: Holz on June 10, 2016, 01:12:50 PM
Quote from: Jay on June 09, 2016, 11:09:28 PM
One thing heading into game 4. If Golden State are going to win on the road, Steph just has to play better. A PER of 13.2 in these finals so far is garbage. Yes its difficult because Cleveland are constantly trapping him, but he's the best player in the league - needs to play like it if they want to wrap this thing up soon.
he isnt the best player in the league and its showing.
No, he is the worlds best player. Didn't know a few "poor" games meant you weren't the best player anymore?
No its not having a few poor games its other players having superior Defense and or passing ability and then offense not far behind his.
And the ability to win games of basketball
I would say thats more a team thing.
Trade rumor time. This one is popping up again.
Noel and one, maybe both, late first round picks for Irving.
Mike Conley then comes in to replace Kyrie
Quote from: Mat0369 on June 11, 2016, 12:57:40 AM
Trade rumor time. This one is popping up again.
Noel and one, maybe both, late first round picks for Irving.
Mike Conley then comes in to replace Kyrie
Conley is more of a distributor than scorer but you already have an established ball handler... makes no sense imo
http://espn.go.com/nba/story/_/id/16070878/jeff-teague-atlanta-hawks-says-played-torn-patellar-tendon
This explains his terrible season, what a horrible decision to play through it
Quote from: RiOtChEsS on June 11, 2016, 11:56:41 AM
Quote from: Mat0369 on June 11, 2016, 12:57:40 AM
Trade rumor time. This one is popping up again.
Noel and one, maybe both, late first round picks for Irving.
Mike Conley then comes in to replace Kyrie
Conley is more of a distributor than scorer but you already have an established ball handler... makes no sense imo
Kinda makes sense for love not for irving.
Not trading irving unless paul is the smart move.
Kyrie would be a good move for the 76ers
Lebron wasn't shooting enough in the first half
That's game, folks.
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LeBron lost his cool today, he called Draymond and Steph dog, there was only one dog out there
Quote from: RiOtChEsS on June 11, 2016, 02:57:52 PM
LeBron lost his cool today, he called Draymond and Steph dog, there was only one dog out there
AND HIS NAME IS MOONDOG
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Quote from: plumdog millionaire on June 11, 2016, 03:10:06 PM
Quote from: RiOtChEsS on June 11, 2016, 02:57:52 PM
LeBron lost his cool today, he called Draymond and Steph dog, there was only one dog out there
AND HIS NAME IS MOONDOG
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Censored :D
Moondog would be in the doghouse :P
Quote from: RiOtChEsS on June 11, 2016, 11:56:41 AM
Conley is more of a distributor than scorer but you already have an established ball handler... makes no sense imo
They shed Irving's salary and Conley actually plays at the defensive end of the court. He also has a better 3 point percentage although he took around 50 less attempts this season. You can't just have Bron running the point all game every game. While they lose the volume scoring they gain a bit of efficiency and a hell of a lot of defense.
Quote from: Mat0369 on June 11, 2016, 03:17:06 PM
Quote from: RiOtChEsS on June 11, 2016, 11:56:41 AM
Conley is more of a distributor than scorer but you already have an established ball handler... makes no sense imo
They shed Irving's salary and Conley actually plays at the defensive end of the court. He also has a better 3 point percentage although he took around 50 less attempts this season. You can't just have Bron running the point all game every game. While they lose the volume scoring they gain a bit of efficiency and a hell of a lot of defense.
I dont think the deal makes them better
Quote from: RiOtChEsS on June 11, 2016, 04:02:01 PM
I dont think the deal makes them better
They probably need to move both Love and Kyrie if they move Irving. They will end up with Love, Thompson and Noel with the first two chewing up through a ton of cap space. The thing is Noel is a complimentary piece they can use. He is a menace on the defensive end and gives them a rim protector. If they can move Love for another wing scorer then maybe it works out, but what they have right now isn't working either. They are just on the soft side of the draw, they probably lose to 3 teams out West and a healthy Clippers is maybe 50/50.
Quote from: Mat0369 on June 11, 2016, 04:06:49 PM
Quote from: RiOtChEsS on June 11, 2016, 04:02:01 PM
I dont think the deal makes them better
They probably need to move both Love and Kyrie if they move Irving. They will end up with Love, Thompson and Noel with the first two chewing up through a ton of cap space. The thing is Noel is a complimentary piece they can use. He is a menace on the defensive end and gives them a rim protector. If they can move Love for another wing scorer then maybe it works out, but what they have right now isn't working either. They are just on the soft side of the draw, they probably lose to 3 teams out West and a healthy Clippers is maybe 50/50.
In my opinion "the superstar blueprint" is looking dated, "team ball" is rising above
Someone has been quiet on this thread...
LeSook blames Draymond for his own behavior, im sooooo surprised
Quote from: RiOtChEsS on June 11, 2016, 04:23:19 PM
In my opinion "the superstar blueprint" is looking dated, "team ball" is rising above
That's still not right. Looking at the Warriors who have had the best record in the history of the NBA and are looking at back to back championships, the have the best player in the league right now. Pretty much the analytics Hinkie was using to build the 6'ers is the following .
The components of the championship team â€" a player in the NBA 96th percentile, a player in the NBA 90th percentile, and a third player in the NBA 79% percentile. Find those, and the team is set. Find those, and you will have your championship.
So assuming every team has the maximum roster (15) that brings it to a total of 450 players in the league. So they would need a top 18 player, a top 45 player and a top 94 player. The Warriors probably have 4 or 5 guys that fit that category with Steph, Klay and Draymond probably in the top 20.
The difference is it is probably coming back to building a team and gaining chemistry compared to try and force that chemistry with big name FA's like the Cavs. You still need a superstar to win championships, it's just going to be a matter of how teams get them and how they play together. The Warriors only really traded for complimentary pieces, not guys to build their franchise around which has helped them establish that chemistry with their core group.
Exactly Steph grew into the best player in that system, Klay, Draymond grew into their roles, they grew into continuity
When was the last time you saw the Warriors act like this to each other
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You cant buy continuity
I think we might be saying the exact same thing just differently
Quote from: Mat0369 on June 12, 2016, 02:03:41 PM
I think we might be saying the exact same thing just differently
Haha yep that's why i said "Exactly" ;)
I've had like 4hrs sleep. My reading and comprehension ain't that good right now
Got on Curry yesterday for MVP at $1.80 pre Draymond suspension, come into $1.18 now.
Also reckon GSW will throw this game as if they win Dray can't celebrate with the team unless he fronts a 140K fine. Cavs paying $3 for the game 5 win, I'm on it!
Quote from: jvalles69 on June 13, 2016, 01:27:03 PM
Got on Curry yesterday for MVP at $1.80 pre Draymond suspension, come into $1.18 now.
Also reckon GSW will throw this game as if they win Dray can't celebrate with the team unless he fronts a 140K fine. Cavs paying $3 for the game 5 win, I'm on it!
Doubt they would throw a game
That was one thing Golden State didn't get to do which was win the final game on their home court. It has been bought up many times. Since they have a chance to win it at home I believe they will atleast try to take that opportunity
140k is a piss in the ocean for them. They'll just pay for the fine
If GSW close out in game 5:
It would be hard to give it too Draymond
Difficult to give it to Curry even if he plays well
With Draymond out Igoudala would be the most probable selection (and i cashed out for triple my outlay already :'( )
Igoudala should be MVP. Has been as good, if not better than last year. When will he stop being underrated ???
Quote from: Jay on June 13, 2016, 05:21:01 PM
Igoudala should be MVP. Has been as good, if not better than last year. When will he stop being underrated ???
Still paying $8 and will get huge minutes tomorrow, if GSW close out it will be his i rekn
I should have put money on him when I said about it before the series.
Would have made me a handy return
He has kept Lebron relatively quiet
Quote from: Cookie311993 on June 13, 2016, 09:15:54 PM
I should have put money on him when I said about it before the series.
Would have made me a handy return
He has kept Lebron relatively quiet
I did and then cashed out before game 4 as i dropped a 5er on it an cashed out just under 15
Cashed out my Draymond Finals MVP bet for just under 20 on a 5 dollar bet to, i put that on at the beginning of the OKC series
Quote from: RiOtChEsS on June 13, 2016, 06:09:49 PM
Quote from: Jay on June 13, 2016, 05:21:01 PM
Igoudala should be MVP. Has been as good, if not better than last year. When will he stop being underrated ???
Still paying $8 and will get huge minutes tomorrow, if GSW close out it will be his i rekn
Really? $8? I got him yesterday with Sportsbet for $34, a mate got him on TAB for $67 yesterday too! :o
Quote from: jvalles69 on June 13, 2016, 10:03:31 PM
Quote from: RiOtChEsS on June 13, 2016, 06:09:49 PM
Quote from: Jay on June 13, 2016, 05:21:01 PM
Igoudala should be MVP. Has been as good, if not better than last year. When will he stop being underrated ???
Still paying $8 and will get huge minutes tomorrow, if GSW close out it will be his i rekn
Really? $8? I got him yesterday with Sportsbet for $34, a mate got him on TAB for $67 yesterday too! :o
Yep i cant remember the odds i originally got on him
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Absolute BS suspension. Make no mistake, if the series was 2-2 or 1-3 Cavs way, Draymond would be playing today. Total shower.
Varejao's flopping is beyond ridiculous.
Quote from: Jay on June 14, 2016, 12:43:51 PM
Varejao's flopping is beyond ridiculous.
Such a crab. Delly 3 fouls in the first quarter now
LeBron 12 points too
Thompson on fire
Cavs just not missing at the moment, so many offensive rebounds too when they do.
My goodness
Amazing first half 8)
Quote from: elephants on June 14, 2016, 01:12:23 PM
Cavs just not missing at the moment, so many offensive rebounds too when they do.
And the scores are level, that's what happens when you trade 3 for 2
I had the Warriors to lead at HT/FT... Absolutely spewing.
im back from my long weekend away.
Lebron was terrible in game 4.
they face one of the biggest comebacks in NBA history.
Warriors did it against thunder (albeit with game 7 at home)
Lebron is turning up today, offensive boards and scoring 2s.
If they can jag this game, they stand a decent shot at winning at home and making this a 7 game series.
lets go Lebron.
Love is a non factor in this series, even if we go down this year if we move him on for something good I would feel comofrtable putting the cavs favorite to win next year.
Curry, Livingston, Thompson, Iggy and Barnes. A nice tall line up haha
Quote from: R.Griffen on June 14, 2016, 01:50:55 PM
Curry, Livingston, Thompson, Iggy and Barnes. A nice tall line up haha
Love it. Hey Cavs if you want to win, you've got to outscore this lineup.
Into hacking TT now. He's been such a beast this whole game it's hard to make the call to take him out.
Witnessing two all-time great finals shooting performances
Get outta here, Varejao ::)
Barnes missing the open 3's from the top is the difference of not having Green. The shot at the top is Green's shot
Yeah Barnes was tragic today.
Not surprised Cleveland won with Draymond suspended. Game 6 will be very interesting!
Amazed the Cavs shot those shots that well for an entire game, phenomenal
Kyrie was just lights out. Special stuff!
very happy with the result.
I fear it will be the same as last year a close game 1 loss costing them the game.
would have been 3-0 up last year and you would think they close.
2-3 down is still tough to come back from 3-2 up i reckon they would close easy.
Irving must not be traded, James Irving combo is worth pursuing.
Love was absolutely terrible 2 points and 3 defensive rebounds 2 blocks and 2 turnovers.
go cav go
Had a Dante Exam so didn't watch the game but from my usual round up seems like we're due for a regression to the mean game? What do people think, will we go to game 7?
Quote from: plumdog millionaire on June 14, 2016, 07:29:03 PM
Had a Dante Exam so didn't watch the game but from my usual round up seems like we're due for a regression to the mean game? What do people think, will we go to game 7?
I think the Warriors manage to close it out in Cleveland. They only lost there in game 3 because they lacked effort - they'll be fired up this time. Draymond back means the Cavs will not have two players scoring 40+ I don't think..
On a side note, today just showed how valuable Draymond is. With him out, the Warriors went from a fantastic defensive team, to giving up two efficient 40+ point performances. I think he is the most valuable defensive player in the league, even over Kawhi, so getting him back should help slow down the Cavaliers. Also underrated with Draymond is his offensive importance to this team, especially with Steph injured/struggling. Just had to have watched Harrison Barnes today flowering up the plays Draymond usually nails.
Game 6 is pretty close to a 50/50 even though I slightly favour Golden State. Would then obviously heavily favour the Warriors in a game 7 @ Oracle, but hey, you force a one-game decider and anything can happen!
For those who are interested in this sort of thing... According to FiveThirtyEight's model, LeBron's teams, on average, have had a 39% chance of winning the Finals over the 6 times he's been in it. MJ 66%, Duncan 68%, Bill Russell 72%, Kobe 69%, Magic 45%.
Quote from: plumdog millionaire on June 15, 2016, 11:26:39 PM
For those who are interested in this sort of thing... According to FiveThirtyEight's model, LeBron's teams, on average, have had a 39% chance of winning the Finals over the 6 times he's been in it. MJ 66%, Duncan 68%, Bill Russell 72%, Kobe 69%, Magic 45%.
makes sense
1. Spurs big 3 up against a young lebron - heavy underdogs
2. An experienced but older Mavs - this one they should have been favorites and lebron choked.
3. A young but very talented Thunder - tunder had just as much if not more talent but first trip to finals Miami should have been slight favourite and won.
4. A very very good spurs team with an old big 3 and Leonard - about a tie
5. Leonard got even better and big 3 was still great - I had edge to Spurs
6. Cavs injured even though it was a young team no way they were favourties.
7. "Greatest Team Ever"
so by my calucations
2 they should have been favorite
2 slight underdogs
1 even
1 no hope
so if he can pull 3-4 thats a fantastic effort.
LOL
http://www.sportsgrid.com/nba/cavs-fan-starts-gofundme-page-to-prevent-kevin-love-from-playing-in-game-6/
Quote from: valkorum on June 16, 2016, 12:35:39 PM
LOL
http://www.sportsgrid.com/nba/cavs-fan-starts-gofundme-page-to-prevent-kevin-love-from-playing-in-game-6/
Christ! Poor bloke.
Pretty funny article discussing "sentimental" MVP favourites (my votes with Richard Jefferson):
(http://i.imgur.com/jafyuIn.png?1)
As for Finals MVP, is this the most open we've ever seen it? Draymond, Curry, Igudala, Klay, LeBron, Irving are all realistic winners!
LeBron should be the Finals MVP obviously, as he's been the best player in the finals (and was last year too), but he won't get it unless Cleveland win. If it's going to be a Warrior I think it should go to Igoudala but will depend on how these next 1-2 games go.
All depends on these last few games. If Cavs win it's obviously Lebron, but for the Warriors it's just whoever plays well in the clinching game.
Please Cavs, win this one so I can watch game 7 live on monday morning at Varsity Bar! ;D
Quote from: jvalles69 on June 17, 2016, 11:12:00 AM
Please Cavs, win this one so I can watch game 7 live on monday morning at Varsity Bar! ;D
Varsity Bar is great.
Love the Notorious P.I.G
Please Cavs, win this one and then when game 7 always.
My dream scenario is Lebron Dunks on Curry for the game winning play.
Here we goooo
Wow, Dubs in some trouble early!
Some of these LeBron passes are as good as you'll ever see.
Gotta admit im a little worried about this peg back in the second quarter. Despite the 17 point lead.
How good is this guy Irving though.
Surely Kevin Love is gone even if we do win this.
Not playing him and we win.
Must be difficult to play when the reffing is different each game, just stick to one rationale.
Better dream scenario, Lebron crosses over Steph, then DESTROYS Draymond on the dunk! ;D
Imagine Cavs with Wiggins right now!
Quote from: jvalles69 on June 17, 2016, 01:25:02 PM
Better dream scenario, Lebron crosses over Steph, then DESTROYS Draymond on the dunk! ;D
Imagine Cavs with Wiggins right now!
not just that Cavs with Wiggins then another role player with the cap space :(
would be game over.
Barnes can't throw a rock into the ocean atm.
And who would have thought the two best players by far in the series would have been LeBron and Kyrie... Curry is slightly hobbled but you'd think him at at least 80% would be a top 2 player
Quote from: Holz on June 17, 2016, 11:17:40 AM
Quote from: jvalles69 on June 17, 2016, 11:12:00 AM
Please Cavs, win this one so I can watch game 7 live on monday morning at Varsity Bar! ;D
Varsity Bar is great.
Love the Notorious P.I.G
Please Cavs, win this one and then when game 7 always.
My dream scenario is Lebron Dunks on Curry for the game winning play.
Feel free to join. The Texan wins for me, with a few onion rings and deep fried pickles! ;D
If Iggy can't go in game 7, that's a 50/50 ball game!
LeBron is still the best player in the world.
Klay throwing it back to game 6 OKC
What one earth was Love doing on defense there.. Guarding Varejao like he's Curry? ::)
Steph didn't even try to get back on D there.
LeBron straight flexin
Quote from: Jay on June 17, 2016, 01:59:43 PM
LeBron is still the best player in the world.
Always was.
We are not worthy of LeBron.
Quote from: plumdog millionaire on June 17, 2016, 02:27:33 PM
LeBron straight flexin
Has killer instinct Lebron finally arrived?!?
shocking foul call
game was over anyway
Steph Curry ejected for throwing his mouthguard into the crowd is what I've heard! :o
why is TThompson/LeBron still on the floor? The game is over and TThompson has played 40+ minues
Quote from: jvalles69 on June 17, 2016, 02:36:35 PM
Steph Curry ejected for throwing his mouthguard into the crowd is what I've heard! :o
Word is the mouthguard hit a fan, suspension looming it seems!?!? :o
Quote from: jvalles69 on June 17, 2016, 02:40:15 PM
Quote from: jvalles69 on June 17, 2016, 02:36:35 PM
Steph Curry ejected for throwing his mouthguard into the crowd is what I've heard! :o
Word is the mouthguard hit a fan, suspension looming it seems!?!? :o
Damn, just watched the footage, he baseball pitched that thing and hit a fan in the front row, then flipped out looking like he was threatening the ref. He did apologise to the fan, but seriously, first time in 2 years things aren't going there way and he flips out. NBA has to take some sort of action even though it was an emotional moment, but he should know better! :o
Haha there's no chance Steph is suspended. Game 7 of the finals, man! :)
Quote from: jvalles69 on June 17, 2016, 02:50:51 PM
Quote from: jvalles69 on June 17, 2016, 02:40:15 PM
Quote from: jvalles69 on June 17, 2016, 02:36:35 PM
Steph Curry ejected for throwing his mouthguard into the crowd is what I've heard! :o
Word is the mouthguard hit a fan, suspension looming it seems!?!? :o
Damn, just watched the footage, he baseball pitched that thing and hit a fan in the front row, then flipped out looking like he was threatening the ref. He did apologise to the fan, but seriously, first time in 2 years things aren't going there way and he flips out. NBA has to take some sort of action even though it was an emotional moment, but he should know better! :o
Great troll
Quote from: R.Griffen on June 17, 2016, 02:55:32 PM
Quote from: jvalles69 on June 17, 2016, 02:50:51 PM
Quote from: jvalles69 on June 17, 2016, 02:40:15 PM
Quote from: jvalles69 on June 17, 2016, 02:36:35 PM
Steph Curry ejected for throwing his mouthguard into the crowd is what I've heard! :o
Word is the mouthguard hit a fan, suspension looming it seems!?!? :o
Damn, just watched the footage, he baseball pitched that thing and hit a fan in the front row, then flipped out looking like he was threatening the ref. He did apologise to the fan, but seriously, first time in 2 years things aren't going there way and he flips out. NBA has to take some sort of action even though it was an emotional moment, but he should know better! :o
Great troll
Lol.
Imagine the uproar if Lebron had done this. ::)
flower. Steph. Curry.
Quote from: jvalles69 on June 17, 2016, 02:58:42 PM
Quote from: R.Griffen on June 17, 2016, 02:55:32 PM
Quote from: jvalles69 on June 17, 2016, 02:50:51 PM
Quote from: jvalles69 on June 17, 2016, 02:40:15 PM
Quote from: jvalles69 on June 17, 2016, 02:36:35 PM
Steph Curry ejected for throwing his mouthguard into the crowd is what I've heard! :o
Word is the mouthguard hit a fan, suspension looming it seems!?!? :o
Damn, just watched the footage, he baseball pitched that thing and hit a fan in the front row, then flipped out looking like he was threatening the ref. He did apologise to the fan, but seriously, first time in 2 years things aren't going there way and he flips out. NBA has to take some sort of action even though it was an emotional moment, but he should know better! :o
Great troll
Lol.
Imagine the uproar if Lebron had done this. ::)
flower. Steph. Curry.
No way curry will get suspended.
Alot of shine is coming off the new golden boy.
If lebron did this he would be called a cry baby and a big choker.
If cavs win this series im going to be savage on the warriors.
Quote from: Holz on June 17, 2016, 03:03:28 PM
Quote from: jvalles69 on June 17, 2016, 02:58:42 PM
Quote from: R.Griffen on June 17, 2016, 02:55:32 PM
Quote from: jvalles69 on June 17, 2016, 02:50:51 PM
Quote from: jvalles69 on June 17, 2016, 02:40:15 PM
Quote from: jvalles69 on June 17, 2016, 02:36:35 PM
Steph Curry ejected for throwing his mouthguard into the crowd is what I've heard! :o
Word is the mouthguard hit a fan, suspension looming it seems!?!? :o
Damn, just watched the footage, he baseball pitched that thing and hit a fan in the front row, then flipped out looking like he was threatening the ref. He did apologise to the fan, but seriously, first time in 2 years things aren't going there way and he flips out. NBA has to take some sort of action even though it was an emotional moment, but he should know better! :o
Great troll
Lol.
Imagine the uproar if Lebron had done this. ::)
flower. Steph. Curry.
No way curry will get suspended.
Alot of shine is coming off the new golden boy.
If lebron did this he would be called a cry baby and a big choker.
If cavs win this series im going to be savage on the warriors.
Of course he won't get suspended, does he deserve to be for causing contact with a fan, for sure, but he could've drop kicked that fan in the face and he'd still be playing game 7.
It's all a business at the end of the day
Quote from: plumdog millionaire on June 17, 2016, 03:09:37 PM
It's all a business at the end of the day
I think they jumped too early and too hard on the curry/gws bandwagon.
Sure they are still favourties to win this year but Spurs another year of Leonard, Aldridge.
Cavs probably moving love who is doing nothing and Irving turning into a superstar
the whole thunder thing.
let alone Anthony Davis and the timberwolves who will be monsters soon.
It could have been GG if the wolves picked up Simmons.
QuoteAyesha Curry
â€@ayeshacurry
"I've lost all respect sorry this is absolutely rigged for money... Or ratings in not sure which. I won't be silent . Just saw it live sry."
Suspend this idiot too. ::)
Game 7 8)
Just hope some good memes come out of this
Quote from: plumdog millionaire on June 17, 2016, 03:41:29 PM
Just hope some good memes come out of this
There's not enough crying Jordan memes for my liking!
Quote from: Jay on June 17, 2016, 03:47:43 PM
Quote from: plumdog millionaire on June 17, 2016, 03:41:29 PM
Just hope some good memes come out of this
There's not enough crying Jordan memes for my liking!
(http://images.performgroup.com/di/library/sporting_news/eb/8/mj-stephen-curry-020916-getty-slidejpg_10it8kwrmaocr1fmpwxeumbnse.jpg?t=-869981646&h=600)
http://basketball.realgm.com/wiretap/242262/Stephen-Curry-Hits-Son-Of-Cavs-Minority-Owner-With-Mouthpiece
Ainge interested in Love
http://basketball.realgm.com/wiretap/242260/Danny-Ainge-Meets-With-Jeff-Schwartz
Quote from: Holz on June 17, 2016, 03:55:47 PM
Quote from: Jay on June 17, 2016, 03:47:43 PM
Quote from: plumdog millionaire on June 17, 2016, 03:41:29 PM
Just hope some good memes come out of this
There's not enough crying Jordan memes for my liking!
(http://images.performgroup.com/di/library/sporting_news/eb/8/mj-stephen-curry-020916-getty-slidejpg_10it8kwrmaocr1fmpwxeumbnse.jpg?t=-869981646&h=600)
That's weak af
(http://i.imgur.com/1FpEQDA.jpg)
I'm just going to leave this here...
(http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a48/jvalles69/FB_IMG_1466146288084%201_zpsmgceiikf.jpg) (http://s8.photobucket.com/user/jvalles69/media/FB_IMG_1466146288084%201_zpsmgceiikf.jpg.html)
Quote from: jvalles69 on June 17, 2016, 05:53:48 PM
I'm just going to leave this here...
Do you want one of the best players in the world suspended in game 7 of the finals because he got frustrated at having a third painfully weak foul called on him?
Quote from: Jay on June 17, 2016, 08:31:02 PM
Quote from: jvalles69 on June 17, 2016, 05:53:48 PM
I'm just going to leave this here...
Do you want one of the best players in the world suspended in game 7 of the finals because he got frustrated at having a third painfully weak foul called on him?
not to mention he didnt even throw it at the ref as Haslem did...
Side note, how flowering great is it that we get a game 7 in the NBA Finals this year, so bloody epic 8)
Quote from: My Chumps on June 03, 2016, 02:06:26 PM
Also if this goes to game 7 (as I'm predicting), am I the only one who thinks it should be on a neutral court? How good would game seven be at MSG! Instead, the Warriors get a huge advantage if it goes that far. I understand it with seeding throughout the conferences but the ultimate game of the season should be at the Mecca of basketball. Just an idea stemming from AFL but one that has a lot of merit IMO.
bringing this back up, would love a neutral game 7!
Quote from: RiOtChEsS on June 17, 2016, 10:01:41 PM
Quote from: Jay on June 17, 2016, 08:31:02 PM
Quote from: jvalles69 on June 17, 2016, 05:53:48 PM
I'm just going to leave this here...
Do you want one of the best players in the world suspended in game 7 of the finals because he got frustrated at having a third painfully weak foul called on him?
not to mention he didnt even throw it at the ref as Haslem did...
Side note, how flowering great is it that we get a game 7 in the NBA Finals this year, so bloody epic 8)
Preach, Riot. I can't wait for this game 7 8) I actually feel like this one is slightly more intriguing than the Spurs Heat one a couple of years back. Given, the standard of basketball has not nearly been as good this series compared to that one. Felt then that the Spurs had thrown literally everything they had at Miami in game 6, and having to play even better than that again on the road to close it out just wasn't likely. In this series, you've got the defending champs, 73-9, unanimous MVP, just came back from 1-3 down in the conf finals, went up 3-1 in the finals and now find themselves in a game 7. Cleveland will have the best player in this game, and have outplayed the Warriors in 3 of the last 4 games. I haven't been able to get a feel for this series, given all the blowouts, but going to enjoy this game that's for sure. I've got nothing attached to either side, just hoping for a ripper game. Not sure how it will play out, but the Warriors being favoured by 5 at the moment seems fair. As the Cavs really haven't gotten close to them in Golden State w/ Draymond. Whatever happens though, LeBron should absolutely 100% be the Finals MVP.
Via Howard Beck's Twitter:
FYI: NBA has a clear precedent on throwing mouthpieces: It's a fine, not a suspension. League officials affirm this.
Quote from: My Chumps on June 18, 2016, 12:21:17 AM
Quote from: My Chumps on June 03, 2016, 02:06:26 PM
Also if this goes to game 7 (as I'm predicting), am I the only one who thinks it should be on a neutral court? How good would game seven be at MSG! Instead, the Warriors get a huge advantage if it goes that far. I understand it with seeding throughout the conferences but the ultimate game of the season should be at the Mecca of basketball. Just an idea stemming from AFL but one that has a lot of merit IMO.
bringing this back up, would love you
I a neutral game 7!
Big fan of this
So pumped to be able to watch this game 7 live!
And yep, I don't want him to be suspended (25K fine it seems), want both teams as close to full strength as possible.
Let the best team win, theres still a chance for a LeChoke, but lets hope not for the sake of basketball! ;D
Quote from: Holz on June 18, 2016, 02:52:52 AM
Quote from: My Chumps on June 18, 2016, 12:21:17 AM
Quote from: My Chumps on June 03, 2016, 02:06:26 PM
Also if this goes to game 7 (as I'm predicting), am I the only one who thinks it should be on a neutral court? How good would game seven be at MSG! Instead, the Warriors get a huge advantage if it goes that far. I understand it with seeding throughout the conferences but the ultimate game of the season should be at the Mecca of basketball. Just an idea stemming from AFL but one that has a lot of merit IMO.
bringing this back up, would love you
I a neutral game 7!
Big fan of this
Just have a 1 off game imo like College final. College final always better especially this years.
Anyone up for a little FanFooty style competition for game 7? Winner gets to choose another contestant's display picture for a week. Steph Curry would look great underneath your name, Holz! ;D
Quote from: Jay on June 18, 2016, 05:48:46 PM
Anyone up for a little FanFooty style competition for game 7? Winner gets to choose another contestant's display picture for a week. Steph Curry would look great underneath your name, Holz! ;D
Nah i will be happy enough with a cavs win.
Not risking having that overatted guy my picture. Im not sure if irving isfully healthy and im not confident with any team having love
Quote from: Holz on June 18, 2016, 07:20:54 PM
Quote from: Jay on June 18, 2016, 05:48:46 PM
Anyone up for a little FanFooty style competition for game 7? Winner gets to choose another contestant's display picture for a week. Steph Curry would look great underneath your name, Holz! ;D
Nah i will be happy enough with a cavs win.
Not risking having that overatted guy my picture. Im not sure if irving isfully healthy and im not confident with any team having love
Can't back it up!!!
If it helps, Andre can't move and their starting centre is out
Quote from: plumdog millionaire on June 18, 2016, 08:11:32 PM
Quote from: Holz on June 18, 2016, 07:20:54 PM
Quote from: Jay on June 18, 2016, 05:48:46 PM
Anyone up for a little FanFooty style competition for game 7? Winner gets to choose another contestant's display picture for a week. Steph Curry would look great underneath your name, Holz! ;D
Nah i will be happy enough with a cavs win.
Not risking having that overatted guy my picture. Im not sure if irving isfully healthy and im not confident with any team having love
Can't back it up!!!
If it helps, Andre can't move and their starting centre is out
Do I smell excuses already? :P
Quote from: jvalles69 on June 19, 2016, 05:23:14 PM
Quote from: plumdog millionaire on June 18, 2016, 08:11:32 PM
Quote from: Holz on June 18, 2016, 07:20:54 PM
Quote from: Jay on June 18, 2016, 05:48:46 PM
Anyone up for a little FanFooty style competition for game 7? Winner gets to choose another contestant's display picture for a week. Steph Curry would look great underneath your name, Holz! ;D
Nah i will be happy enough with a cavs win.
Not risking having that overatted guy my picture. Im not sure if irving isfully healthy and im not confident with any team having love
Can't back it up!!!
If it helps, Andre can't move and their starting centre is out
Do I smell excuses already? :P
Nah bro just facts, fair play if the Cavs win imo. Balances it out from last year for not having Kyrie
I've implemented a fool proof plan
Chuck $10 on the Cavs and if they win im compensated...
If they lose im happy
Quote from: RiOtChEsS on June 19, 2016, 06:17:08 PM
I've implemented a fool proof plan
Chuck $10 on the Cavs and if they win im compensated...
If they lose im happy
I call it emotional hedging :P
Quote from: plumdog millionaire on June 19, 2016, 06:22:54 PM
Quote from: RiOtChEsS on June 19, 2016, 06:17:08 PM
I've implemented a fool proof plan
Chuck $10 on the Cavs and if they win im compensated...
If they lose im happy
I call it emotional hedging :P
Haha i like that :D $10 is pretty cheap for something as valuable as happiness, or that will buy me about 5 beers, again happiness ;)
Don't think I'll be able to sleep tonight! Game 7 lads ;D
Thinking about a sneaky MVP bet on Klay in case Dubs win...paying $11.50!
Quote from: Jay on June 19, 2016, 11:42:19 PM
Don't think I'll be able to sleep tonight! Game 7 lads ;D
I'm already frothin too young blood, ever since the GSW didn't close out in game 5 i've had this sick feeling in the pit of my stomach...
Finally this game is gonna put that feeling to rest, i just hope it delivers an epic tale deserved of a game 7 of the NBA Finals...
Warriors 107, Cavs 102.
this is electric
Good solid 1st, all the big names getting in on the action.
Green on fire from behind the arc
Treymond!!
Quote from: Jay on June 20, 2016, 11:59:48 AM
Treymond!!
geez if they win he has to be finals MVP.
a 38.8% 3 point shooter going 5/5 in the first half is a big outlier.
This game is still on but thats hard to overcome.
Work getting washed out today means I get to watch game 7.
Lebron with 4 turnovers in the first half.
Draymond on fire from 3 point land
Cavs aren't shooting good outside of the paint.
Once again the Warriors are winning due to the 3pt ability of their team
why is kerr continuing with varejao???? 4 turnovers this quarter tryin to get the ball to him
Quote from: RiOtChEsS on June 20, 2016, 12:48:49 PM
why is kerr continuing with varejao???? 4 turnovers this quarter tryin to get the ball to him
It was the main reason for the 10 point turn around
Quote from: RiOtChEsS on June 20, 2016, 12:48:49 PM
why is kerr continuing with varejao???? 4 turnovers this quarter tryin to get the ball to him
No idea.
made no sense whatsoever...
how good id this game though
Here we go! Final quarter of the season, time to make a name for yourself, certify your legacy. Let's flowering go!
Lebron looks ready to turn it on. Love's done a great job tonight on the boards. Curry and Klay need to get going to help Draymond out. Kyrie had a killer 3rd quarter.
This is beyond tense.
Could we be destined for overtime
Bad play Steph
Why is Lebron taking jump shots with Ezeli on him? Why is R-Jeff taking any shots at all!?!
AHHHHHHHHHH WOWWWWWW!!!
*Deep breaths*
Warriors gotta put Love in the PnR.
Holy flower, Lebrons greatest chase down block right there! :o
I think the Cavs have it
4pts is nice, but those freaks can hit 3's from anywhere...
GOATBron James
LeBron was flowering insane down the stretch, Congrats to Cleveland
I reckon Lebron will get the finals MVP, but Kyrie and Green had a very good finals series as well
That chase down block was absolutely unbelievable, what a win.
LEBRON the real mvp
Just tooooo good Wow, congrats Cavs
Doesn't help when curry misses 3-4 three point attempts at the death though ahahhaha
Cant describe how happy i am.
Lebron 3 clutch free throws then went to the rim and hit the game winning.
Go the real MVP
WOW WOW WOW WOW WOW
Hopefully the fans give some respect back to Love, he redeemed himself tonight. What a game! Will be interesting to see both teams off season moves, but this rivalry could go on for awhile!
The big thing will be to see what moves other sides make to try and get up and be competitive with these.
Lots of talk about the Celtics trying to assemble a side to challenge but not much else from the league
Where's Kyrie? He should be front and centre with Lebron! Lol at Usher getting in on the action.
Quote from: jvalles69 on June 20, 2016, 01:44:27 PM
Hopefully the fans give some respect back to Love, he redeemed himself tonight. What a game! Will be interesting to see both teams off season moves, but this rivalry could go on for awhile!
Love was amazing played great D. Cavs fans that were giving Love shower can get stuffed. Wouldn't have won without him
Quote from: R.Griffen on June 20, 2016, 01:50:11 PM
Quote from: jvalles69 on June 20, 2016, 01:44:27 PM
Hopefully the fans give some respect back to Love, he redeemed himself tonight. What a game! Will be interesting to see both teams off season moves, but this rivalry could go on for awhile!
Love was amazing played great D. Cavs fans that were giving Love shower can get stuffed. Wouldn't have won without him
100%. The guy had 2 dud games, was a beast all season, hope he leaves anyway, stuff those showerty fans.
Love played really well. Kyrie's 3 was insane. LeBron top 2 GOAT.
What a crap year, hardly angry or upset from the NBA result but all my Carolina teams come up short and my Carolina boy Barnes and the Warriors come up short
Don't check Skip Bayless twitter if you want to keep your sanity.
Just gonna leave this here again...
(https://i.imgur.com/amMEA73.jpg)
We can add 2016 Warriors to it also
Cant deny LBJ his greatness. #3 on GOAT list for me. If he didnt choke vs Mavs or Spurs he would prob be #1. Sick of flowering people with a basketball IQ of below 50 having the biggest voice ripping into LBJ like Skip...
Quote from: Jay on June 20, 2016, 02:11:10 PM
Don't check Skip Bayless twitter if you want to keep your sanity.
Hahaha I was literally thinking he'd sprout some "Kyrie is batman!" bullshower, unreal
AMAZING
LeBron James is greatness
Gee the Warriors missed Bogut though. Festus + Varejao were trash
Quote from: Andrew3747 on June 20, 2016, 02:13:50 PM
Cant deny LBJ his greatness. #3 on GOAT list for me. If he didnt choke vs Mavs or Spurs he would prob be #1. Sick of flowering people with a basketball IQ of below 50 having the biggest voice ripping into LBJ like Skip...
Hahaha you're back! #2 GOAT for me.
Just think the choke vs Mavs has screwed his legacy a lot. No top 10 player has ever done that before. He is easily the number 1 MVP of all time but falls short thanks to the 2 chokes. Have MJ and Shaq above him.
Isiah Thomas talking about how LeBron had to do everything whereas Jordan had to score.... MJ once averaged 32.5, 8 and 8 while winning DPOY.
So are the Cavs now the greatest team ever?
since they just beat them.
Is it time that we can call Curry a choker? we know it would have happend if it was the other way round.
Quote from: jvalles69 on June 20, 2016, 01:52:06 PM
Quote from: R.Griffen on June 20, 2016, 01:50:11 PM
Quote from: jvalles69 on June 20, 2016, 01:44:27 PM
Hopefully the fans give some respect back to Love, he redeemed himself tonight. What a game! Will be interesting to see both teams off season moves, but this rivalry could go on for awhile!
Love was amazing played great D. Cavs fans that were giving Love shower can get stuffed. Wouldn't have won without him
100%. The guy had 2 dud games, was a beast all season, hope he leaves anyway, stuff those showerty fans.
he had a good defensive game. But everyone would agree that he is not a good defensive player.
On the offensive end he still wasn't great today 3/9 shooting with 0/3 3 pointers.
no doubt i give him props today but if we could get a more defensive option then need to look at it.
Kyrie James were the reasons the Cavs won.
Also i have to give props to Draymond Green.
100% was the MVP of the Warriors.
Quote from: Holz on June 20, 2016, 02:50:55 PM
So are the Cavs now the greatest team ever?
since they just beat them.
Is it time that we can call Curry a choker? we know it would have happend if it was the other way round.
C'mon Holz, yes Curry didn't have a good series but he was obviously not 100% because of his knee.
Quote from: Jay on June 20, 2016, 03:03:35 PM
C'mon Holz, yes Curry didn't have a good series but he was obviously not 100% because of his knee.
Definitely seemed to be down on confidence from deep compared to his normal self. Was that the knee or just him lacking confidence after some quieter games?
Quote from: Toga on June 20, 2016, 03:07:50 PM
Quote from: Jay on June 20, 2016, 03:03:35 PM
C'mon Holz, yes Curry didn't have a good series but he was obviously not 100% because of his knee.
Definitely seemed to be down on confidence from deep compared to his normal self. Was that the knee or just him lacking confidence after some quieter games?
he was able to perform in this series and was pretty decent for 3 quarters then went cold in the 4th.
I saw enough from him health wise to say those missed shots were missed shots.
are you giving Curry an asterix.
Chocked in Playoffs * was somewhat injured.
Yeah, I'm tending to agree with you Holz. Knee may have slightly contributed, but those shots were ones he hit without trouble in the regular season. Looked down on confidence today and a few silly TO's is something he's going to have to learn from.
He was defended extremely well. Think Curry was just boxed out of the game. Cavs really stepped up rather than just gsw playing bad.
I cant make memes but i thought this was clever
(http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a376/sweetlilbitgirl/Dragon%20Cave/Dragon%20Cave%20Evolution/splashdemo.gif)
Golden State uses Splash Brothers.....
But nothing happened.
Quote from: Jay on June 20, 2016, 02:22:50 PM
Isiah Thomas talking about how LeBron had to do everything whereas Jordan had to score.... MJ once averaged 32.5, 8 and 8 while winning DPOY.
Dude's still salty about being kept off the dream team lol
Quote from: My Chumps on June 20, 2016, 03:46:54 PM
Quote from: Jay on June 20, 2016, 02:22:50 PM
Isiah Thomas talking about how LeBron had to do everything whereas Jordan had to score.... MJ once averaged 32.5, 8 and 8 while winning DPOY.
Dude's still salty about being kept off the dream team lol
As a Lebron fan I dont want to see this comparison yet. Jordan is still better at this point in Lebrons career. I think now its possible that he can overtake him as for me this erasers the Mavs series. so he is back on pace.
5-6 rings then we start talking.
All i know is Lebron is the best player now and that cant be argued.
Quote from: Holz on June 20, 2016, 03:12:23 PM
Quote from: Toga on June 20, 2016, 03:07:50 PM
Quote from: Jay on June 20, 2016, 03:03:35 PM
C'mon Holz, yes Curry didn't have a good series but he was obviously not 100% because of his knee.
Definitely seemed to be down on confidence from deep compared to his normal self. Was that the knee or just him lacking confidence after some quieter games?
he was able to perform in this series and was pretty decent for 3 quarters then went cold in the 4th.
I saw enough from him health wise to say those missed shots were missed shots.
are you giving Curry an asterix.
Chocked in Playoffs * was somewhat injured.
Cleveland did a great job on Curry. Trapping him off the PnR really worked well, and TT did an amazing job guarding him in mismatches. And Curry with his dumb turnovers and silly fouls definitely played worse than usual. But when a big got matched up with him, in the regular season he'd dance rings around them, this series he really hasn't been able to gain any separation which I think is because of his knee.
I don't think we should lose sight of what an amazing season he and the rest of the Warriors team had. I think the funniest storyline of these playoffs is that if a certain Warrior had hit opponent's in the nuts less often, we could have a different champion right now.. Sports are strange :P
He wont ever get passed MJ now imo. Has to do a lot. Ill put him ahead if he gets 3peat from here with mvps. Prob the only way he gets to number 1.
Quote from: Jay on June 20, 2016, 03:58:10 PM
Quote from: Holz on June 20, 2016, 03:12:23 PM
Quote from: Toga on June 20, 2016, 03:07:50 PM
Quote from: Jay on June 20, 2016, 03:03:35 PM
C'mon Holz, yes Curry didn't have a good series but he was obviously not 100% because of his knee.
Definitely seemed to be down on confidence from deep compared to his normal self. Was that the knee or just him lacking confidence after some quieter games?
he was able to perform in this series and was pretty decent for 3 quarters then went cold in the 4th.
I saw enough from him health wise to say those missed shots were missed shots.
are you giving Curry an asterix.
Chocked in Playoffs * was somewhat injured.
Cleveland did a great job on Curry. Trapping him off the PnR really worked well, and TT did an amazing job guarding him in mismatches. And Curry with his dumb turnovers and silly fouls definitely played worse than usual. But when a big got matched up with him, in the regular season he'd dance rings around them, this series he really hasn't been able to gain any separation which I think is because of his knee.
I don't think we should lose sight of what an amazing season he and the rest of the Warriors team had. I think the funniest storyline of these playoffs is that if a certain Warrior had hit opponent's in the nuts less often, we could have a different champion right now.. Sports are strange :P
It cant go both way.
He got all the praise in the regular season, talk of greatest season ever and all that. If thats true then he needs to get massive amounts of criticism now and the warriors as a whole, they were way too volatile.
Klay some nights crazy hot, another nights was cold. Green was pretty great all series but had a few quiet games aswell.
The difference is Cavs pretty much has a great performance from lebron every night. Game 4 his only bad game. Lebron keeps you in the game, Kyrie was just the tipping stone to get them the chip.
Im not going to be as harsh on Curry as people would expect, simply because I dont think he is that great. He isnt a generational player and the guy to take Lebrons crown.
Anthony Davis is probably the front runner
Just quietly though, Irving at 24 is making waves, Curry is 28 looking at their career progression Irving is ahead in my books.
Quote from: Holz on June 20, 2016, 04:06:44 PM
Quote from: Jay on June 20, 2016, 03:58:10 PM
Quote from: Holz on June 20, 2016, 03:12:23 PM
Quote from: Toga on June 20, 2016, 03:07:50 PM
Quote from: Jay on June 20, 2016, 03:03:35 PM
C'mon Holz, yes Curry didn't have a good series but he was obviously not 100% because of his knee.
Definitely seemed to be down on confidence from deep compared to his normal self. Was that the knee or just him lacking confidence after some quieter games?
he was able to perform in this series and was pretty decent for 3 quarters then went cold in the 4th.
I saw enough from him health wise to say those missed shots were missed shots.
are you giving Curry an asterix.
Chocked in Playoffs * was somewhat injured.
Cleveland did a great job on Curry. Trapping him off the PnR really worked well, and TT did an amazing job guarding him in mismatches. And Curry with his dumb turnovers and silly fouls definitely played worse than usual. But when a big got matched up with him, in the regular season he'd dance rings around them, this series he really hasn't been able to gain any separation which I think is because of his knee.
I don't think we should lose sight of what an amazing season he and the rest of the Warriors team had. I think the funniest storyline of these playoffs is that if a certain Warrior had hit opponent's in the nuts less often, we could have a different champion right now.. Sports are strange :P
It cant go both way.
He got all the praise in the regular season, talk of greatest season ever and all that. If thats true then he needs to get massive amounts of criticism now and the warriors as a whole, they were way too volatile.
Klay some nights crazy hot, another nights was cold. Green was pretty great all series but had a few quiet games aswell.
The difference is Cavs pretty much has a great performance from lebron every night. Game 4 his only bad game. Lebron keeps you in the game, Kyrie was just the tipping stone to get them the chip.
Im not going to be as harsh on Curry as people would expect, simply because I dont think he is that great. He isnt a generational player and the guy to take Lebrons crown.
Anthony Davis is probably the front runner
Just quietly though, Irving at 24 is making waves, Curry is 28 looking at their career progression Irving is ahead in my books.
Why can't it go both ways? Curry had one of the best offensive regular seasons of all-time and fully deserved unanimous MVP. Doesn't mean he is better than LeBron. Nobody in the league is better than LeBron.
Curry got hurt and didn't deliver in the playoffs. I'll still take him any day over Durant, Irving, Davis, Westbrook etc.
Quote from: Jay on June 20, 2016, 04:17:52 PM
Why can't it go both ways? Curry had one of the best offensive regular seasons of all-time and fully deserved unanimous MVP. Doesn't mean he is better than LeBron. Nobody in the league is better than LeBron.
Curry got hurt and didn't deliver in the playoffs. I'll still take him any day over Durant, Irving, Davis, Westbrook etc.
Because Curry had a fantastic offensive regular season.
To me he wasnt the most valuable player to his team, nor was he the best all round player in the game.
Lebron was the most important player too his team.
I also say he was the best all round player.
The talk was he was a clear standout and the pack and all those names I could argue a case for them being above Curry.
Leonard is a better 2 way player with elite defense and pretty good offense. Curry elite scoring (not passing) and good defense.
James does it all
Anthony Davis, Kawahi Leonard and Kyrie Irving are all much younger and not that far behind.
Even KD and Westbrook are younger.
in 10 years time we will not look back and go gee Curry was the player of that era.
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Quote from: Holz on June 20, 2016, 04:22:51 PM
Quote from: Jay on June 20, 2016, 04:17:52 PM
Why can't it go both ways? Curry had one of the best offensive regular seasons of all-time and fully deserved unanimous MVP. Doesn't mean he is better than LeBron. Nobody in the league is better than LeBron.
Curry got hurt and didn't deliver in the playoffs. I'll still take him any day over Durant, Irving, Davis, Westbrook etc.
Because Curry had a fantastic offensive regular season.
To me he wasnt the most valuable player to his team, nor was he the best all round player in the game.
Lebron was the most important player too his team.
I also say he was the best all round player.
The talk was he was a clear standout and the pack and all those names I could argue a case for them being above Curry.
Leonard is a better 2 way player with elite defense and pretty good offense. Curry elite scoring (not passing) and good defense.
James does it all
Anthony Davis, Kawahi Leonard and Kyrie Irving are all much younger and not that far behind.
Even KD and Westbrook are younger.
in 10 years time we will not look back and go gee Curry was the player of that era.
No respect smh
Quote from: plumdog millionaire on June 20, 2016, 04:28:33 PM
Quote from: Holz on June 20, 2016, 04:22:51 PM
Quote from: Jay on June 20, 2016, 04:17:52 PM
Why can't it go both ways? Curry had one of the best offensive regular seasons of all-time and fully deserved unanimous MVP. Doesn't mean he is better than LeBron. Nobody in the league is better than LeBron.
Curry got hurt and didn't deliver in the playoffs. I'll still take him any day over Durant, Irving, Davis, Westbrook etc.
Because Curry had a fantastic offensive regular season.
To me he wasnt the most valuable player to his team, nor was he the best all round player in the game.
Lebron was the most important player too his team.
I also say he was the best all round player.
The talk was he was a clear standout and the pack and all those names I could argue a case for them being above Curry.
Leonard is a better 2 way player with elite defense and pretty good offense. Curry elite scoring (not passing) and good defense.
James does it all
Anthony Davis, Kawahi Leonard and Kyrie Irving are all much younger and not that far behind.
Even KD and Westbrook are younger.
in 10 years time we will not look back and go gee Curry was the player of that era.
No respect smh
its more I think i respect the other guys soo highly.
curry is absolutely fantastic but so are the other guys.
Leonard is 24 years old and has been the best defensive player in the NBA the last 2 years. He is now an elite 3 point shooter despite not being as high volume. Is taking responsibility for being "the guy" of one of the best dynasty's ever.
Anthony Davis is a freak at 23 and is playing for a terrible team and getting quite a few injuries. He is highly effecient and if he can get his body and team right could be the best player of this generation.
Lebron james is still playing at an elite level and while his body is not what it was, he has improved in other areas.
Kd westbrook speak for themselves.
Kyrie is kinda like a young curry, injuries have slowed down his growth but his last 4 games in this playoffs have been amazing. You can argue he has shown more in playoffs then curry has.
saying its Curry then a big gap then these guys is showing no respect. Im not pushing curry down, im pulling all these other guys up.
Quote from: Holz on June 20, 2016, 04:22:51 PM
Quote from: Jay on June 20, 2016, 04:17:52 PM
Why can't it go both ways? Curry had one of the best offensive regular seasons of all-time and fully deserved unanimous MVP. Doesn't mean he is better than LeBron. Nobody in the league is better than LeBron.
Curry got hurt and didn't deliver in the playoffs. I'll still take him any day over Durant, Irving, Davis, Westbrook etc.
Because Curry had a fantastic offensive regular season.
To me he wasnt the most valuable player to his team, nor was he the best all round player in the game.
Lebron was the most important player too his team.
I also say he was the best all round player.
The talk was he was a clear standout and the pack and all those names I could argue a case for them being above Curry.
Leonard is a better 2 way player with elite defense and pretty good offense. Curry elite scoring (not passing) and good defense.
James does it all
Anthony Davis, Kawahi Leonard and Kyrie Irving are all much younger and not that far behind.
Even KD and Westbrook are younger.
in 10 years time we will not look back and go gee Curry was the player of that era.
He had the 8th best PER ever, his team went 73-9 yet they were outscored by 4.3 points per 100 possessions when he was off the court. He was the most valuable player this season. Is that because LeBron just paces himself through the regular season these days? Maybe. But I disagree with that we won't look back at him as an all-time great player. Honestly, I see him finishing in the top 20 all-time. One "bad" (had a higher PER than Klay, Russ and KD in the conference finals) playoffs doesn't change the fact that when you watched Steph Curry this season, you were basically watching someone playing as well as prime MJ. I certainly don't take anything away from his season because he was outplayed by one of the greatest of all-time.
Quote from: Jay on June 20, 2016, 04:38:39 PM
Quote from: Holz on June 20, 2016, 04:22:51 PM
Quote from: Jay on June 20, 2016, 04:17:52 PM
Why can't it go both ways? Curry had one of the best offensive regular seasons of all-time and fully deserved unanimous MVP. Doesn't mean he is better than LeBron. Nobody in the league is better than LeBron.
Curry got hurt and didn't deliver in the playoffs. I'll still take him any day over Durant, Irving, Davis, Westbrook etc.
Because Curry had a fantastic offensive regular season.
To me he wasnt the most valuable player to his team, nor was he the best all round player in the game.
Lebron was the most important player too his team.
I also say he was the best all round player.
The talk was he was a clear standout and the pack and all those names I could argue a case for them being above Curry.
Leonard is a better 2 way player with elite defense and pretty good offense. Curry elite scoring (not passing) and good defense.
James does it all
Anthony Davis, Kawahi Leonard and Kyrie Irving are all much younger and not that far behind.
Even KD and Westbrook are younger.
in 10 years time we will not look back and go gee Curry was the player of that era.
He had the 8th best PER ever, his team went 73-9 yet they were outscored by 4.3 points per 100 possessions when he was off the court. He was the most valuable player this season. Is that because LeBron just paces himself through the regular season these days? Maybe. But I disagree with that we won't look back at him as an all-time great player. Honestly, I see him finishing in the top 20 all-time. One "bad" (had a higher PER than Klay, Russ and KD in the conference finals) playoffs doesn't change the fact that when you watched Steph Curry this season, you were basically watching someone playing as well as prime MJ. I certainly don't take anything away from his season because he was outplayed by one of the greatest of all-time.
serious question.
you say One bad playoffs doesnt change anything.
But my question is has he had one great playoffs?
he was pretty good last year but Lebron was the best play in the series and everyone knows that. Iggy was the best for the warriors.
what have we seen in the playoffs?
Im not saying he cant im just saying he still hasn't shown an all time great performance in the playoffs yet.
People say Lebron is the greatest player in history of 46 minutes or greatest in the regular season then criticize him for his playoff performances, what has curry done.
Just a side note just saw lebron was #1 in points, rebounds, assist, steals, blocks for both teams in this series. The first time that has ever happend.
Lets no forget the fact that the game these days allows for great shooters to shine. Even though Curry is the GOAT pure shooter, it hightned by the fact that people just arent fouling/pressuring shooters as much as they used to. They are given a lot more space since protecting the rim from easy buckets is a better option. Players like Curry given space just makes him look better than he really is. As an offensive weapon, id gladly take Durant over Curry. Take back the clock 10 even maybe 6-7 years and prime Curry doesnt look this good.
No reasonable person said there was a massive gap in talent as you say. He just outplayed everyone by so much during the regular season and before he got injured as the stats show, and that's a truth no one can argue. He might be the most popular player since Jordan and is an face of the game. It's bigger than basketball with him
But it's also true that LeBron was better in a way that outplayed expectations relative to the season, and that's just a testament to him. No one doubts LeBron at his peak is better than all but 1 or 2 players we've seen and he performed as such
Quote from: plumdog millionaire on June 20, 2016, 04:51:13 PM
No reasonable person said there was a massive gap in talent as you say. He just outplayed everyone by so much during the regular season and before he got injured as the stats show, and that's a truth no one can argue. He might be the most popular player since Jordan and is an face of the game. It's bigger than basketball with him
But it's also true that LeBron was better in a way that outplayed expectations relative to the season, and that's just a testament to him. No one doubts LeBron at his peak is better than all but 1 or 2 players we've seen and he performed as such
greatest of all time season implies a gap. People generally think that the past is arguably tougher then the current generation of players. So you cant say greatest season ever and then not say there isnt a gap.
Anyway.
Today is about Lebron James, Kyrie Irving and Cleveland.
Coming from 1-3 behind is fantastic.
Dont think Curry is top 3 prob not even top 5 of GOAT single seasons.
Quote from: Andrew3747 on June 20, 2016, 04:55:45 PM
Dont think Curry is top 3 prob not even top 5 of GOAT single seasons.
we now have to say regular season.
As if you include playoffs its not a top 100 season. As surely playoffs count for much more.
Quote from: Holz on June 20, 2016, 04:53:58 PM
Quote from: plumdog millionaire on June 20, 2016, 04:51:13 PM
No reasonable person said there was a massive gap in talent as you say. He just outplayed everyone by so much during the regular season and before he got injured as the stats show, and that's a truth no one can argue. He might be the most popular player since Jordan and is an face of the game. It's bigger than basketball with him
But it's also true that LeBron was better in a way that outplayed expectations relative to the season, and that's just a testament to him. No one doubts LeBron at his peak is better than all but 1 or 2 players we've seen and he performed as such
greatest of all time season implies a gap. People generally think that the past is arguably tougher then the current generation of players. So you cant say greatest season ever and then not say there isnt a gap.
Anyway.
Today is about Lebron James, Kyrie Irving and Cleveland.
Coming from 1-3 behind is fantastic.
Not in terms of talent, just production as I said
Regular season still not in my top 5. Can think of 3 MJ seasons, 2 LBJ seasons, 2 Shaq seasons and even KGs 1 season as better than Currys.
Quote from: Holz on June 20, 2016, 04:45:20 PM
Quote from: Jay on June 20, 2016, 04:38:39 PM
Quote from: Holz on June 20, 2016, 04:22:51 PM
Quote from: Jay on June 20, 2016, 04:17:52 PM
Why can't it go both ways? Curry had one of the best offensive regular seasons of all-time and fully deserved unanimous MVP. Doesn't mean he is better than LeBron. Nobody in the league is better than LeBron.
Curry got hurt and didn't deliver in the playoffs. I'll still take him any day over Durant, Irving, Davis, Westbrook etc.
Because Curry had a fantastic offensive regular season.
To me he wasnt the most valuable player to his team, nor was he the best all round player in the game.
Lebron was the most important player too his team.
I also say he was the best all round player.
The talk was he was a clear standout and the pack and all those names I could argue a case for them being above Curry.
Leonard is a better 2 way player with elite defense and pretty good offense. Curry elite scoring (not passing) and good defense.
James does it all
Anthony Davis, Kawahi Leonard and Kyrie Irving are all much younger and not that far behind.
Even KD and Westbrook are younger.
in 10 years time we will not look back and go gee Curry was the player of that era.
He had the 8th best PER ever, his team went 73-9 yet they were outscored by 4.3 points per 100 possessions when he was off the court. He was the most valuable player this season. Is that because LeBron just paces himself through the regular season these days? Maybe. But I disagree with that we won't look back at him as an all-time great player. Honestly, I see him finishing in the top 20 all-time. One "bad" (had a higher PER than Klay, Russ and KD in the conference finals) playoffs doesn't change the fact that when you watched Steph Curry this season, you were basically watching someone playing as well as prime MJ. I certainly don't take anything away from his season because he was outplayed by one of the greatest of all-time.
serious question.
you say One bad playoffs doesnt change anything.
But my question is has he had one great playoffs?
he was pretty good last year but Lebron was the best play in the series and everyone knows that. Iggy was the best for the warriors.
what have we seen in the playoffs?
Im not saying he cant im just saying he still hasn't shown an all time great performance in the playoffs yet.
People say Lebron is the greatest player in history of 46 minutes or greatest in the regular season then criticize him for his playoff performances, what has curry done.
Just a side note just saw lebron was #1 in points, rebounds, assist, steals, blocks for both teams in this series. The first time that has ever happend.
Well in my opinion, Curry could have been the Finals MVP last year, thought he was pretty unlucky. He was the most valuable to his team even though he wasn't putting up amazing numbers. Just the threat of his shooting alone carried the whole Warriors offense. People say LeBron had an amazing finals, yet Iggy got the MVP for guarding LeBron? Can't have that both ways.
Game 7 vs OKC: 36 points, 13/24 FG, 7/12 threes, 5 rebounds, 8 assists, +18.
Game 4 in Cleveland: 38 points, 11/25 FG, 7/13 threes, 5 rebounds, 6 assists, +10.
First game back from injury, in Portland: 40 points, 16/32 FG, 5/16 threes, 9 rebounds, 8 assists, +21. Including a record 17 points in overtime.
You can go back to his first ever playoffs, 2013. 22 points in the third quarter vs Denver. 42 points in San Antonio.
Let's not pretend like the guy sucks in the playoffs.. If he doesn't slip on Montejunas' back sweat in the Houston series, he's probably the Finals MVP right now. But those are the breaks I guess.
LBJ was robbed and 99% of people should know that. NBA just didnt want to give it to the losing team.
Quote from: Jay on June 20, 2016, 05:02:48 PM
Quote from: Holz on June 20, 2016, 04:45:20 PM
Quote from: Jay on June 20, 2016, 04:38:39 PM
Quote from: Holz on June 20, 2016, 04:22:51 PM
Quote from: Jay on June 20, 2016, 04:17:52 PM
Why can't it go both ways? Curry had one of the best offensive regular seasons of all-time and fully deserved unanimous MVP. Doesn't mean he is better than LeBron. Nobody in the league is better than LeBron.
Curry got hurt and didn't deliver in the playoffs. I'll still take him any day over Durant, Irving, Davis, Westbrook etc.
Because Curry had a fantastic offensive regular season.
To me he wasnt the most valuable player to his team, nor was he the best all round player in the game.
Lebron was the most important player too his team.
I also say he was the best all round player.
The talk was he was a clear standout and the pack and all those names I could argue a case for them being above Curry.
Leonard is a better 2 way player with elite defense and pretty good offense. Curry elite scoring (not passing) and good defense.
James does it all
Anthony Davis, Kawahi Leonard and Kyrie Irving are all much younger and not that far behind.
Even KD and Westbrook are younger.
in 10 years time we will not look back and go gee Curry was the player of that era.
He had the 8th best PER ever, his team went 73-9 yet they were outscored by 4.3 points per 100 possessions when he was off the court. He was the most valuable player this season. Is that because LeBron just paces himself through the regular season these days? Maybe. But I disagree with that we won't look back at him as an all-time great player. Honestly, I see him finishing in the top 20 all-time. One "bad" (had a higher PER than Klay, Russ and KD in the conference finals) playoffs doesn't change the fact that when you watched Steph Curry this season, you were basically watching someone playing as well as prime MJ. I certainly don't take anything away from his season because he was outplayed by one of the greatest of all-time.
serious question.
you say One bad playoffs doesnt change anything.
But my question is has he had one great playoffs?
he was pretty good last year but Lebron was the best play in the series and everyone knows that. Iggy was the best for the warriors.
what have we seen in the playoffs?
Im not saying he cant im just saying he still hasn't shown an all time great performance in the playoffs yet.
People say Lebron is the greatest player in history of 46 minutes or greatest in the regular season then criticize him for his playoff performances, what has curry done.
Just a side note just saw lebron was #1 in points, rebounds, assist, steals, blocks for both teams in this series. The first time that has ever happend.
Well in my opinion, Curry could have been the Finals MVP last year, thought he was pretty unlucky. He was the most valuable to his team even though he wasn't putting up amazing numbers. Just the threat of his shooting alone carried the whole Warriors offense. People say LeBron had an amazing finals, yet Iggy got the MVP for guarding LeBron? Can't have that both ways.
Game 7 vs OKC: 36 points, 13/24 FG, 7/12 threes, 5 rebounds, 8 assists, +18.
Game 4 in Cleveland: 38 points, 11/25 FG, 7/13 threes, 5 rebounds, 6 assists, +10.
First game back from injury, in Portland: 40 points, 16/32 FG, 5/16 threes, 9 rebounds, 8 assists, +21. Including a record 17 points in overtime.
You can go back to his first ever playoffs, 2013. 22 points in the third quarter vs Denver. 42 points in San Antonio.
Let's not pretend like the guy sucks in the playoffs.. If he doesn't slip on Montejunas' back sweat in the Houston series, he's probably the Finals MVP right now. But those are the breaks I guess.
he doesnt suck in playoffs. But we are talking top 20 potential. its putting too much pressure on Curry he wont live up to it. If he wasnt being compared to all these greats then I would be off his back completely.
I can put a case that Irving has shown more in the playoffs. Injured last year came out big in game 1 before going down. This year he was the second best player in the series and made one of the big clutch plays on curry.
im just saying give him time then talk.
Quote from: Andrew3747 on June 20, 2016, 05:05:08 PM
LBJ was robbed and 99% of people should know that. NBA just didnt want to give it to the losing team.
Agree with this. I just operate under the assumption now that someone on a losing team will never win it.
Some good arguments going on.
I think Curry has hit his peak now, shame that he didn't get it going earlier due to those glass ankles, but I can't see him getting better than he already is now, he can get a whole lot smarter and maturer though which could prolong what he's doing offensively, don't see GSW relinquishing the top of the West for a while though.
Durant is on the decline since his foot problems, but prior to that he was better then than Curry is now, would take prime Durant over prime Curry any day. If he sticks with Westbrook, then I definitely see him continuing to decline, if he moves to his own team then I think he can get back to an MVP year.
Kawhi is sooo efficient in every way, but he doesn't have that ego yet that all the other superstars around him have. He'll always be that selfless team guy I think, which might not take him to the next level unfortunately. Depends what Pop can do with the team, but it's going to take getting rid of at least 2 of Duncan, Parker and Manu...I'd keep Duncan to come off the bench though. There is no handing of keys here, Kawhi needs to take them.
Lebron is past his peak, but his basketball IQ is the best in the league and he knows he can lean on teammates as well as flick the turbo switch on and off when he wants. Best in the universe. It's funny, he seems like he's playing at his peak now, but if you go back and look at his younger years, god damn he is a beast!
Davis is an absolute stud, on a showerty team with a porcelain body, the only 2 things keeping him from already taking the top mantle because I think he has all the pieces right now to be the top dog. No real weakness in his game now that he can hit the 3 too.
Westbrook is going to do Westbrook things with or without Durant for at least a few more years, although I can't see him getting big time success like an MVP or a title unless they can retain Durant and make some other type of big move.
Towns is the darkhorse IMO. Has all the same tools as Davis, but at a younger age. He could become scary good, he just soaks up information and uses it to better his game.
PSS
Game 3: Warriors scored 2 points in last 3:20.
Game 5: Warriors scored 1 points in last 6:40.
Game 7: Warriors scored 0 points in last 4:30.
That is insane defense against the best offensive team in the league...or is it a choke...I wonder?
Karl Towns is gonna be a monster. One of my favourites atm
Quote from: plumdog millionaire on June 20, 2016, 06:38:55 PM
Karl Towns is gonna be a monster. One of my favourites atm
Yeah if I'm starting a team give me Towns over Davis and Westbrook. Leonard and Durant would be 50/50 calls.
Quote from: Jay on June 20, 2016, 06:50:59 PM
Quote from: plumdog millionaire on June 20, 2016, 06:38:55 PM
Karl Towns is gonna be a monster. One of my favourites atm
Yeah if I'm starting a team give me Towns over Davis and Westbrook. Leonard and Durant would be 50/50 calls.
Minnesota are building a very strong side. Wiggins and Towns are absolute machines and they have another high draft pick this year
Davis>Towns. I dont even think its close either. Only argument would be injuries against Davis. In a vacuum a healthy Davis is easy the best C since Shaq/Hakeem.
Quote from: Cookie311993 on June 20, 2016, 06:55:19 PM
Quote from: Jay on June 20, 2016, 06:50:59 PM
Quote from: plumdog millionaire on June 20, 2016, 06:38:55 PM
Karl Towns is gonna be a monster. One of my favourites atm
Yeah if I'm starting a team give me Towns over Davis and Westbrook. Leonard and Durant would be 50/50 calls.
Minnesota are building a very strong side. Wiggins and Towns are absolute machines and they have another high draft pick this year
Idk don't rate Wiggins very highly at the moment. They have the 5th pick too so if Bender slips that's a nice fit
Quote from: jvalles69 on June 20, 2016, 06:35:21 PM
Kawhi is sooo efficient in every way, but he doesn't have that ego yet that all the other superstars around him have. He'll always be that selfless team guy I think, which might not take him to the next level unfortunately. Depends what Pop can do with the team, but it's going to take getting rid of at least 2 of Duncan, Parker and Manu...I'd keep Duncan to come off the bench though. There is no handing of keys here, Kawhi needs to take them.
does he need the ego, he reminds me very much of Duncan when he took the reigns from Robinson.
His game does the talking, he will probably never be a scoring champion but what he does on both ends of the court is amazing. At only 24 years old as well, his offense side picked up alot this year no reason it cant keep increasing, remember he has 3 years on Curry.
Durrant yeah the foot has slowed him down, agree his best is better then Curry's best. Would love to see him on a team with a passing point guard. Imagine the damage he could do say with a Chris Paul.
Imagine the damage that Lebron could do if he had his brain in the body of 26 year old lebron. It would be game over with the Jordan comparisons it would be the best basketballer ever. I just hope his body can hold up as he to me is still the best basketballer and will continue to be for a few years yet.
Towns is the sleeper but soo is Irving. It is possible he can do what curry is doing now but even greater. Curry might be the best shooter ever but Irving might have the best handles ever and he is a good shooter.
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Quote from: jvalles69 on June 20, 2016, 06:35:21 PM
Kawhi is sooo efficient in every way, but he doesn't have that ego yet that all the other superstars around him have. He'll always be that selfless team guy I think, which might not take him to the next level unfortunately. Depends what Pop can do with the team, but it's going to take getting rid of at least 2 of Duncan, Parker and Manu...I'd keep Duncan to come off the bench though. There is no handing of keys here, Kawhi needs to take them.
does he need the ego, he reminds me very much of Duncan when he took the reigns from Robinson.
His game does the talking, he will probably never be a scoring champion but what he does on both ends of the court is amazing. At only 24 years old as well, his offense side picked up alot this year no reason it cant keep increasing, remember he has 3 years on Curry.
Yeah, I'd argue he has to be if he wants to get to the top of the game. Elite player, but without more of a selfish mentality IMO he can't challenge to be the best.
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Quote from: jvalles69 on June 20, 2016, 06:35:21 PM
Kawhi is sooo efficient in every way, but he doesn't have that ego yet that all the other superstars around him have. He'll always be that selfless team guy I think, which might not take him to the next level unfortunately. Depends what Pop can do with the team, but it's going to take getting rid of at least 2 of Duncan, Parker and Manu...I'd keep Duncan to come off the bench though. There is no handing of keys here, Kawhi needs to take them.
does he need the ego, he reminds me very much of Duncan when he took the reigns from Robinson.
His game does the talking, he will probably never be a scoring champion but what he does on both ends of the court is amazing. At only 24 years old as well, his offense side picked up alot this year no reason it cant keep increasing, remember he has 3 years on Curry.
Yeah, I'd argue he has to be if he wants to get to the top of the game. Elite player, but without more of a selfish mentality IMO he can't challenge to be the best.
I do think he needs the ego, or to be playing alongside another player with that ego. Fair comparison to Duncan, but Duncan was/is a leader, very vocal, very intense which I don't see in Kawhi yet either. I need to see some sort of emotion/passion out of him to want it as bad as some of these other guys because as much as I love Kawhi, I don't see it.
Just finished re-watching the game and have a few thoughts looking back on it.
1. I think the Warriors' playing their centres too much may have cost them. Ezeli starting was strange to me, I just figured it was because Iggy was still hurt from last game, but then he ended up playing 37 minutes so must have been fine? And then, with 5 minutes to go they bring Ezeli back in? Season on the line and they have a lineup which has dominated everyone all season, and they choose not to go with it until about 2 minutes to go. LeBron hit a huge three in the fourth when he had Ezeli switched onto him. Along the same lines, Varejao playing 8 minutes in an NBA Finals game 7 is insane, and fittingly, he was a -9. If 6 of those minutes go to Livingston, Barbosa or both I think that would have made a huge difference. Barbosa only playing 4 minutes when he had proven this series that he could get to the basket, and also hit from deep. They didn't go small enough imo.
2. With a minute to go, Curry had Kevin Love switched onto him on the perimeter. This was the matchup that had everyone including me saying that Kevin Love can't be out there at the same time as Curry because he will just get destroyed. I counted 3 or 4 times in that possession where Curry could have blown by Love and get to the basket. And I've seen him cop some criticism for this. I'm not sure whether his knee stopped him from being able to get by a guy as slow as Love, or he just thought he could make a three like he had done all season, which is fair enough I guess.
3. I thought Lue coached a fantastic game, and was actually really good all series. He kept the faith in Love when a lot of people were saying they should go back to Jefferson. And Love rewarded them tonight, he was awesome on the offensive boards. You have to wonder whether he has now solidified his spot in Cleveland with his performance tonight? Lue also made the simple, but effective calls. For the Kyrie three with 50 seconds to go, all they did was get Curry matched up onto him and let him go to work. How many times did the Warriors do that? I can't remember them giving Curry and Iso with Kyrie even once today..
4. The LeBron block is one of the most amazing plays I've ever seen. He was literally not even in the frame when Iggy was putting the ball up off the glass. Which begs the question, better play, the LeBron block or the Ray Allen shot?
#couldntresist ;D
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Quote from: plumdog millionaire on June 20, 2016, 04:28:33 PM
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Quote from: Jay on June 20, 2016, 04:17:52 PM
Why can't it go both ways? Curry had one of the best offensive regular seasons of all-time and fully deserved unanimous MVP. Doesn't mean he is better than LeBron. Nobody in the league is better than LeBron.
Curry got hurt and didn't deliver in the playoffs. I'll still take him any day over Durant, Irving, Davis, Westbrook etc.
Because Curry had a fantastic offensive regular season.
To me he wasnt the most valuable player to his team, nor was he the best all round player in the game.
Lebron was the most important player too his team.
I also say he was the best all round player.
The talk was he was a clear standout and the pack and all those names I could argue a case for them being above Curry.
Leonard is a better 2 way player with elite defense and pretty good offense. Curry elite scoring (not passing) and good defense.
James does it all
Anthony Davis, Kawahi Leonard and Kyrie Irving are all much younger and not that far behind.
Even KD and Westbrook are younger.
in 10 years time we will not look back and go gee Curry was the player of that era.
No respect smh
+1
Forgot to add that the Bogut injury affected the Warriors more than I thought he would. Him playing the Ezeli/Varejao minutes would have made a difference.
Quote from: My Chumps on June 20, 2016, 02:15:29 PM
Gee the Warriors missed Bogut though. Festus + Varejao were trash
:P
First interesting rumour I've heard is Warriors are definitely looking to make some moves and old man Dirk is #1 trade target right now. Very interesting and would add a hole other dimension to this already impressive team!
Absolutely NO WAY Dirk would leave the Mavs.
Shout out to those Cavs winning in those ugly sleeved jerseys
Quote from: plumdog millionaire on June 21, 2016, 11:15:49 PM
Shout out to those Cavs winning in those ugly sleeved jerseys
Was waiting all game for Lebron to rip the sleeves off :P
http://basketball.realgm.com/wiretap/242298/Caron-Butler-Exercises-$15M-Player-Option-With-Kings
I did NOT expect this - Maybe there will be a sign and trade.
Its good to be the "Price" (son of the king)
http://basketball.realgm.com/wiretap/242293/LeBron-James-Jr-Has-Standing-Scholarship-Offers-From-Duke-Kentucky
Quote from: valkorum on June 22, 2016, 10:45:52 AM
Its good to be the "Price" (son of the king)
http://basketball.realgm.com/wiretap/242293/LeBron-James-Jr-Has-Standing-Scholarship-Offers-From-Duke-Kentucky
Good to see he doesnt have to take out a Student Loan to go to colledge.
I dont gamble but lakers at $126 to win the title.
there is a remote chance that Lebron KD go there but if it does they would need to be the favorites.
So Lebron has just bought a 21 million dollar mansion in LA...The lakers odds to win the title went from $301 to $167 during that time. :o
Quote from: jvalles69 on June 22, 2016, 12:20:34 PM
So Lebron has just bought a 21 million dollar mansion in LA...The lakers odds to win the title went from $301 to $167 during that time. :o
he did it in November last year.
He might leave for there at some point but its not this year. I think he will go when Melo contract runs out.
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So Lebron has just bought a 21 million dollar mansion in LA...The lakers odds to win the title went from $301 to $167 during that time. :o
he did it in November last year.
He might leave for there at some point but its not this year. I think he will go when Melo contract runs out.
I feel he is more chance going back to Miami because he loved it there
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So Lebron has just bought a 21 million dollar mansion in LA...The lakers odds to win the title went from $301 to $167 during that time. :o
he did it in November last year.
He might leave for there at some point but its not this year. I think he will go when Melo contract runs out.
I feel he is more chance going back to Miami because he loved it there
Yeah Miami seems to be on the cards it seems...
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Quote from: R.Griffen on June 22, 2016, 01:18:34 PM
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Quote from: jvalles69 on June 22, 2016, 12:20:34 PM
So Lebron has just bought a 21 million dollar mansion in LA...The lakers odds to win the title went from $301 to $167 during that time. :o
he did it in November last year.
He might leave for there at some point but its not this year. I think he will go when Melo contract runs out.
I feel he is more chance going back to Miami because he loved it there
Yeah Miami seems to be on the cards it seems...
http://deadspin.com/lebron-says-he-was-motivated-by-some-hurtful-parting-wo-1782291641
Quote from: Jay on June 22, 2016, 02:55:22 PM
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Quote from: R.Griffen on June 22, 2016, 01:18:34 PM
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Quote from: jvalles69 on June 22, 2016, 12:20:34 PM
So Lebron has just bought a 21 million dollar mansion in LA...The lakers odds to win the title went from $301 to $167 during that time. :o
he did it in November last year.
He might leave for there at some point but its not this year. I think he will go when Melo contract runs out.
I feel he is more chance going back to Miami because he loved it there
Yeah Miami seems to be on the cards it seems...
http://deadspin.com/lebron-says-he-was-motivated-by-some-hurtful-parting-wo-1782291641
Interesting, still went back to Miami through the year and worked out with DWade and other team mates. Just some salty players by the looks
Remember what happen when LeBron left Cleveland... The city went crazy not just a couple managers and a handful of players
Be shocked if he headed back to South Beach
Dont see him going to LA without others... however id fancy Clips over Lakers to get him, 1 of his 4 boys already there
Quote from: RiOtChEsS on June 22, 2016, 11:32:00 PM
Be shocked if he headed back to South Beach
Dont see him going to LA without others... however id fancy Clips over Lakers to get him, 1 of his 4 boys already there
Yeah I think if he leaves Cleveland its to play with his boys.
https://www.instagram.com/p/BG5Byk7iTGF/ #whycheapenit ::)
Trades starting to go down. PG's moving around.
Rose to knicks. Teague to pacers. George Hill to utah. Calderon ++ to bulls.
Quote from: jvalles69 on June 23, 2016, 10:15:57 AM
Trades starting to go down. PG's moving around.
Rose to knicks. Teague to pacers. George Hill to utah. Calderon ++ to bulls.
Actually dont mind that gamble from the Knicks
Teague to Indiana is a strong move from the Pacers
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Quote from: jvalles69 on June 23, 2016, 10:15:57 AM
Trades starting to go down. PG's moving around.
Rose to knicks. Teague to pacers. George Hill to utah. Calderon ++ to bulls.
Actually dont mind that gamble from the Knicks
Teague to Indiana is a strong move from the Pacers
Not sure wtf the Bulls are doin, cant get rid of Rose fast enough...
They get Calderon, Lopez and Jerian Grant while giving up Rose and a 2nd rounder ???
Lopez is a solid C on a good deal, and Grant has potential. Obviously decided Rose wasn't in their plans and decided to re-tool around Butler. Seems alright to me. Knicks have taken a gamble, and if it comes off, they get to give a huge contract to Rose next year. Congrats!
Not sure why Indiana would trade Hill for Teague ???
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Quote from: jvalles69 on June 23, 2016, 10:15:57 AM
Trades starting to go down. PG's moving around.
Rose to knicks. Teague to pacers. George Hill to utah. Calderon ++ to bulls.
Actually dont mind that gamble from the Knicks
Teague to Indiana is a strong move from the Pacers
Not sure wtf the Bulls are doin, cant get rid of Rose fast enough...
They get Calderon, Lopez and Jerian Grant while giving up Rose and a 2nd rounder ???
Well there goes the Bulls not worried about them at all anymore.
Knicks were very smart to take the gamble. If he can work on getting his body right which is capable and he can get back to all star level (not MVP) then Melo Rose Porzingas is a great combo.
Quote from: Jay on June 23, 2016, 10:55:05 AM
Lopez is a solid C on a good deal, and Grant has potential. Obviously decided Rose wasn't in their plans and decided to re-tool around Butler. Seems alright to me. Knicks have taken a gamble, and if it comes off, they get to give a huge contract to Rose next year. Congrats!
Not sure why Indiana would trade Hill for Teague ???
Legend wanted to make the team faster than it was last year and I suppose Teague is one of the quicker guys in the league. Not much of an upgrade from Hill though
They needed big men since both noah and gasol are opting out. Just means we get to see if Jimmy Butler is the franchise player we think he is.
Quote from: plumdog millionaire on June 23, 2016, 01:47:53 PM
Quote from: Jay on June 23, 2016, 10:55:05 AM
Lopez is a solid C on a good deal, and Grant has potential. Obviously decided Rose wasn't in their plans and decided to re-tool around Butler. Seems alright to me. Knicks have taken a gamble, and if it comes off, they get to give a huge contract to Rose next year. Congrats!
Not sure why Indiana would trade Hill for Teague ???
Legend wanted to make the team faster than it was last year and I suppose Teague is one of the quicker guys in the league. Not much of an upgrade from Hill though
Teague is definitely an upgrade on Hill! Teague had a down year last year and Hill gets injured all the time. Teague was an all-star 2 seasons ago. He was playing with a team who benched him for Schroeder and weren't hiding the fact that they wanted to trade him, had a fair bit of incentive to not give a shower at ATL.
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Quote from: Jay on June 23, 2016, 10:55:05 AM
Lopez is a solid C on a good deal, and Grant has potential. Obviously decided Rose wasn't in their plans and decided to re-tool around Butler. Seems alright to me. Knicks have taken a gamble, and if it comes off, they get to give a huge contract to Rose next year. Congrats!
Not sure why Indiana would trade Hill for Teague ???
Legend wanted to make the team faster than it was last year and I suppose Teague is one of the quicker guys in the league. Not much of an upgrade from Hill though
Teague is definitely an upgrade on Hill! Teague had a down year last year and Hill gets injured all the time. Teague was an all-star 2 seasons ago. He was playing with a team who benched him for Schroeder and weren't hiding the fact that they wanted to trade him, had a fair bit of incentive to not give a shower at ATL.
How is Teague that much of an upgrade? Kyle Korver was an all star that year, not saying undeservedly so but just that it doesn't put him in the same basket as John Wall or someone like that
He had basically the same stats from his all star year and shot career best from 3 last season
So have Atlanta conceded that Horford is leaving?
Also should we start a new thread/move to the draft thread for offseason?
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Quote from: Jay on June 23, 2016, 10:55:05 AM
Lopez is a solid C on a good deal, and Grant has potential. Obviously decided Rose wasn't in their plans and decided to re-tool around Butler. Seems alright to me. Knicks have taken a gamble, and if it comes off, they get to give a huge contract to Rose next year. Congrats!
Not sure why Indiana would trade Hill for Teague ???
Legend wanted to make the team faster than it was last year and I suppose Teague is one of the quicker guys in the league. Not much of an upgrade from Hill though
Teague is definitely an upgrade on Hill! Teague had a down year last year and Hill gets injured all the time. Teague was an all-star 2 seasons ago. He was playing with a team who benched him for Schroeder and weren't hiding the fact that they wanted to trade him, had a fair bit of incentive to not give a shower at ATL.
How is Teague that much of an upgrade? Kyle Korver was an all star that year, not saying undeservedly so but just that it doesn't put him in the same basket as John Wall or someone like that
He had basically the same stats from his all star year and shot career best from 3 last season
Just my opinion. I feel teague starts on any team in the NBA, Hill starts on about half of those teams, he's a backup and has only been starting because Indy don't have another decent PG.
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Quote from: Jay on June 23, 2016, 10:55:05 AM
Lopez is a solid C on a good deal, and Grant has potential. Obviously decided Rose wasn't in their plans and decided to re-tool around Butler. Seems alright to me. Knicks have taken a gamble, and if it comes off, they get to give a huge contract to Rose next year. Congrats!
Not sure why Indiana would trade Hill for Teague ???
Legend wanted to make the team faster than it was last year and I suppose Teague is one of the quicker guys in the league. Not much of an upgrade from Hill though
Teague is definitely an upgrade on Hill! Teague had a down year last year and Hill gets injured all the time. Teague was an all-star 2 seasons ago. He was playing with a team who benched him for Schroeder and weren't hiding the fact that they wanted to trade him, had a fair bit of incentive to not give a shower at ATL.
How is Teague that much of an upgrade? Kyle Korver was an all star that year, not saying undeservedly so but just that it doesn't put him in the same basket as John Wall or someone like that
He had basically the same stats from his all star year and shot career best from 3 last season
Just my opinion. I feel teague starts on any team in the NBA, Hill starts on about half of those teams, he's a backup and has only been starting because Indy don't have another decent PG.
Fair fair. Think they both start on an equal amount of teams, and maybe Hill could start at the 2 for some teams given his defence too.
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Quote from: Jay on June 23, 2016, 10:55:05 AM
Lopez is a solid C on a good deal, and Grant has potential. Obviously decided Rose wasn't in their plans and decided to re-tool around Butler. Seems alright to me. Knicks have taken a gamble, and if it comes off, they get to give a huge contract to Rose next year. Congrats!
Not sure why Indiana would trade Hill for Teague ???
Legend wanted to make the team faster than it was last year and I suppose Teague is one of the quicker guys in the league. Not much of an upgrade from Hill though
Teague is definitely an upgrade on Hill! Teague had a down year last year and Hill gets injured all the time. Teague was an all-star 2 seasons ago. He was playing with a team who benched him for Schroeder and weren't hiding the fact that they wanted to trade him, had a fair bit of incentive to not give a shower at ATL.
How is Teague that much of an upgrade? Kyle Korver was an all star that year, not saying undeservedly so but just that it doesn't put him in the same basket as John Wall or someone like that
He had basically the same stats from his all star year and shot career best from 3 last season
Just my opinion. I feel teague starts on any team in the NBA, Hill starts on about half of those teams, he's a backup and has only been starting because Indy don't have another decent PG.
Fair fair. Think they both start on an equal amount of teams, and maybe Hill could start at the 2 for some teams given his defence too.
That makes a lot more sense, I'd rather start him at SG with his 3pt range, decent defensive, but he's not a distributor.
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Quote from: Jay on June 23, 2016, 10:55:05 AM
Lopez is a solid C on a good deal, and Grant has potential. Obviously decided Rose wasn't in their plans and decided to re-tool around Butler. Seems alright to me. Knicks have taken a gamble, and if it comes off, they get to give a huge contract to Rose next year. Congrats!
Not sure why Indiana would trade Hill for Teague ???
Legend wanted to make the team faster than it was last year and I suppose Teague is one of the quicker guys in the league. Not much of an upgrade from Hill though
Teague is definitely an upgrade on Hill! Teague had a down year last year and Hill gets injured all the time. Teague was an all-star 2 seasons ago. He was playing with a team who benched him for Schroeder and weren't hiding the fact that they wanted to trade him, had a fair bit of incentive to not give a shower at ATL.
How is Teague that much of an upgrade? Kyle Korver was an all star that year, not saying undeservedly so but just that it doesn't put him in the same basket as John Wall or someone like that
He had basically the same stats from his all star year and shot career best from 3 last season
Just my opinion. I feel teague starts on any team in the NBA, Hill starts on about half of those teams, he's a backup and has only been starting because Indy don't have another decent PG.
Fair fair. Think they both start on an equal amount of teams, and maybe Hill could start at the 2 for some teams given his defence too.
That makes a lot more sense, I'd rather start him at SG with his 3pt range, decent defensive, but he's not a distributor.
He's the ideal PG for a team with Harden/George/LeBron type primary ball handler
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Quote from: Jay on June 23, 2016, 10:55:05 AM
Lopez is a solid C on a good deal, and Grant has potential. Obviously decided Rose wasn't in their plans and decided to re-tool around Butler. Seems alright to me. Knicks have taken a gamble, and if it comes off, they get to give a huge contract to Rose next year. Congrats!
Not sure why Indiana would trade Hill for Teague ???
Legend wanted to make the team faster than it was last year and I suppose Teague is one of the quicker guys in the league. Not much of an upgrade from Hill though
Teague is definitely an upgrade on Hill! Teague had a down year last year and Hill gets injured all the time. Teague was an all-star 2 seasons ago. He was playing with a team who benched him for Schroeder and weren't hiding the fact that they wanted to trade him, had a fair bit of incentive to not give a shower at ATL.
How is Teague that much of an upgrade? Kyle Korver was an all star that year, not saying undeservedly so but just that it doesn't put him in the same basket as John Wall or someone like that
He had basically the same stats from his all star year and shot career best from 3 last season
Just my opinion. I feel teague starts on any team in the NBA, Hill starts on about half of those teams, he's a backup and has only been starting because Indy don't have another decent PG.
Fair fair. Think they both start on an equal amount of teams, and maybe Hill could start at the 2 for some teams given his defence too.
That makes a lot more sense, I'd rather start him at SG with his 3pt range, decent defensive, but he's not a distributor.
He's the ideal PG for a team with Harden/George/LeBron type primary ball handler
Yeah exactly, thats why I rate Teague a lot higher than Hill, has a lot more to offer a team, will free up PG13 loads too. Only thing Teague needs to improve is his post season play, if he can up that part of his game he'll be up there with the top 10 PG's in the NBA.
Anyone watch The Jump? T-Mac told a pretty cool story. 2 days before he was drafted Jerry Krause had a meeting with him saying he was going to trade Scottie Pippen for him to play with MJ at the Bulls. MJ caught wind of it, called Krause and vetoed it, haha! That following season the Bulls went on to have the "best" regular/post season ever. Moral of the story, listen to MJ, lol. Would've been pretty cool seeing T-Mac alongside MJ though!
How awesome was this season...
1. Team won a record 73 regular season games
2. First ever unanimous MVP
3. A top 15 player of all time scored 60 points in his final ever game
4. The 73-9 team came back from 3-1 down in the conference finals including an all-time epic in game 6
5. Then blew a 3-1 lead in the finals, something that has never happened before.
6. An all-time epic game 7 of the finals including two historic plays
7. 2nd best player ever, bringing a title to a city that hadn't won in over 50 years.
Amazing.
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How awesome was this season...
1. Team won a record 73 regular season games
2. First ever unanimous MVP
3. A top 15 player of all time scored 60 points in his final ever game
4. The 73-9 team came back from 3-1 down in the conference finals including an all-time epic in game 6
5. Then blew a 3-1 lead in the finals, something that has never happened before.
6. An all-time epic game 7 of the finals including two historic plays
7. 2nd best player ever, bringing a title to a city that hadn't won in over 50 years.
Amazing.