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It is still early Jan, NAB cup is about a month away which is when we get into it, so I figured I would make a list of guys I want to keep an eye on/potentially fit into my team. Most of my smokey's come from the NAB comp anyway so I am not worried about anyone stealing my POD's yet   :P

The backs

Simmo
Lez
Ricky Henderson
Birch
Harbrow
Walker/Yarran
Geary
Roberton
La Bamba
Zak Jones
Whitecross
Walking Beundaid
Misc rookies

The rucks

Nic Nat
Minno
Berger (probably won't touch him unless he looks to play majority in the ruck)
Kreuz (similar to Leuenberger)
Belcho
Hammer (if Maric gets injured)
Tom Nicholls
Grundy

The forwards

Lids
BJ
Buddy
Harley
Christensen
Swan
Bruest
The Chad
Tom Mitchell
Walker
Craig Bird
Taylor Adams
Wellingham
Gus Monfries
Jeremy Cameron
Ziebell
Tom Bell
Garlett
Nick Graham
Jed Lamb
Chris Knights
Vardy
Reid
Sylvia
Salem
Dennis
Blease
Membrey
Kommer
Clark
Saad
Brandon Jack
Robbie Tarrant
Karnezis
Hogan
Harper
Menzel x2
Lambert
Misc Rookies

The mids

Gaz
Pendles
Sidebottom
Barlow
Heppell
Bryce
Boak
Danger
KJack
Hanners
Griff
Boyd
Brad Crouch
Armitage
Jack Steven
A Swallow
Joey
Scott Selwood
Wells
Rich
Van Berlo
Hallahan
Clay Smith (knee??)
Acres
Newton
Biggs
Hartung
Jed Anderson
Misc rookies

having trouble deciding on fwd choices Mat?   
More listed than mids?   

I think as usual right rookies and breakout player choice will be the deciding factor.   Would like to see a list of potential break outs.
ie 20+ points over 2014?

I think the forwards present a lot better value for money. A few of those guys are DPP players but I just listed them in their position as forwards. I will probably do a write up for why I am considering them. A lot of them when it comes down to it I probably won't go near for multiple reasons, but it is about weighing up the risk vs the reward. In these lists I haven't included rookies like Heeney, Brayshaw, Laverde, Goddard etc. which is why I have the msic rookies category.

I might start with the forwards now while I am watching the basketball

No surpised with the small back list. Backs are flowered this year!

Cross Clay off the list. Won't be ready for round 1.

Quote from: The_Captain on January 15, 2015, 02:36:33 PM
No surpised with the small back list. Backs are flowered this year!

A lot of those guys I don't think are worth their price either as I see a few on the decline in terms of points. With pre-season games coming around it will be interesting to see where guys are trialed and it might make me consider someone like Harry Taylor or Docherty/Newnes, but for the time being I would rather go cheaper at the position if I can and load up elsewhere.

Quote from: meow meow on January 15, 2015, 02:44:03 PM
Cross Clay off the list. Won't be ready for round 1.

That's disappointing for him, he is an awkward price in terms of fantasy but he is a talented kid. He struggled with his tank early and the injuries probably won't help

Im expecting Krezuer to get DPP in DT half way through the year as he will probably spend more time up front

You are going to be busy Matty watching all of them

Lids - Pretty obvious selection here, running mid that was always a lock as a defender, he should average over 100 so unless injury strikes I am likely to be starting him
BJ - Same as Lids, throw in the fact he was averaging quite a bit early in the season last year. He seems to start well then tail off from memory the last few seasons so if I pick him it will be early to get those big scores
Buddy - I mentioned this in another thread, Buddy plays the Bombers round 1, that is his team he destroys on a routine basis, he also only plays them once, if you want to be on the roller coaster you need to be there for the big scores and his big scores and that is going to be one

Harley - One of my faves, his body lets him down but the kid is a beast (as we saw against the Cats). I am pretty sure he can average 105, my questions are on his body so it might be a wait and see approach with Harley
Christensen - Body and role is the issue with this guy. New team that is now all of a sudden loaded in the midfield, if he plays his in and under role he had with the Cats he could be SC gold, it is just a question of health with his back/concussions
Swan - I am not sold on him, he had a huge drop off in scoring and people will say it is because he was injured. I will make 3 points with Swan, age catches up with everyone, as you get older you need to prepare your body better between games and he is not one to strike me as doing this and I don't think it is a coincidence that the most rotated player in the league struggled when the rotation on the cap came in.
Breust - There has always been more talk of him getting extra midfield time each season, if he can get his average up to 20 disposals a game he could be a good pick but he is more a guy that intrigues me that I probably won't touch until I see some proof
The Chad - Spent a lot of time forward which killed his scoring. Part of that was due to niggling early injuries, the other part of that was the emergence of Robbie Gray (well more Gray being healthy). Add in Monfries also injured for the majority of the season and a stronger midfield rotation for the Power it saw Chad spending more time away from the pill. If he was under 400k I would lean towards taking the risk but if he has a strong NAB with extended amounts of time in the middle I will have to seriously consider him
Tom Mitchell - Gun. The Swans are all about team balance so it will be interesting to see if he plays and if so where. In the guts he could easily push for a 100 average, in the NEAFL, well....The other problem with Tom is his body, he has never been healthy for a full season and at 400k I don't know if it is a risk worth taking
Walker - Tex was huge a couple of seasons ago when the Crows were a finals side. He will be going into the season healthy after having the knee reco in 2013 but a new coach and game plan means he is a giant question mark. KPP's are always risky, but if there is one that can average over 100 it will be Tex.
Craig Bird - He probably won't improve on his average, but unsubbed he averaged 90 for the season. He did seem to be tagging less then previous season but was still prone to the odd tagging job. If the Swans continue to win I would expect their players to still have a lot of points to go around, I probably won't pick him since he won't be top 6 and is too pricey to be a stepping stone in the high 400k region.
Taylor Adams - A young guy that showed plenty at the Giants in his first season. With Beams and Ball gone and Swan on the decline there is going to be room for some of these young Pies to step up. He is also probably too pricey to be a stepping stone close to 400k so unless there are really good signs that he is going to rack up the pill I will likely pass. He might push toward 90 this year but might be 1 or 2 seasons away from getting close to the ton
Wellingham - He is priced similarly to Adams and seems to be in pretty ishy form toward the end of the season. He could probably push towards a 90 average if he hits form and gets a good run but I doubt it. For all the hype he has never averaged over 82 so considering he is pricey and won't be a keeper he might be the first I cross off the list
Gus Monfries - Injury killed his season plain and simple. Priced at a 63 average (340k) and averaged 90 the previous season, he could be a very handy stepping stone although he would be a pricey one. He reminds me of JJK a couple seasons ago in terms of price
Jeremy Cameron - A combo of poor form and injuries really hurt Cameron, he is priced at 300k though. Many thought he would increase his 70 average from a couple of seasons ago but he went backwards. However, no Boyd, Patton with a knee, Giles gone, something tells me Cameron is going to get the majority of the delivery from a midfield that now has Ryan Griffen. He probably won't be a premium, but if we are looking at stepping stones he fits the bill. I will be keeping my eye on him come NAB cup
Ziebell - He has always been highly rated but injuries and suspension have killed him through his career. He would be a pretty big risk in hoping he can get everything right, but it will be interesting to see how he fares in the NAB where he sucked a few in to getting him last year..
Tom Bell - He is the human wrecking ball. A huuuuuuuggggggggeeeeee midfielder and one of my fav players at the club with the way he goes about it. With Brock and Robbo gone I think he cements his spot in the 22 running through the guts. He obviously has ability but hasn't had it all click yet. At 343k I will probably prefer Monfries, but don't be surprised by a 90 average for Tom Bell. He can butcher the ball, but he also wins the hard ball and has a big motor, he can also kick goal which is handy. He has had a few broken fingers/hands the last couple of seasons which has also seen him miss games

I will be continuing the other guys in another post

Quote from: tabs on January 15, 2015, 03:41:27 PM
Im expecting Krezuer to get DPP in DT half way through the year as he will probably spend more time up front

You are going to be busy Matty watching all of them

If the coach tanks Kreuze will play up forward, if he actually tries to keep his job he will be smart and play Kreuze in the ruck. Carlton were desperate for a competent ruck with the hack patrol of Warnock and Wood, plus Kreuze can't work in tandem with them and it makes the forward line too tall. You ideally want Kreuze in the ruck with Levi and Hendo up forward and Levi spells Kreuze in the ruck. Levi is better then Wood and Warnock combined so you can't push him out of the team for one of the mega spuds

I watched a lot of the NAB cup a couple years ago, I think that is why I did so well in SC that year, I think they have gone back to that formula so I will probably spend most of my weekends come Feb on the couch watching Footy. I will just make notes on guys I like and see how many of them impress me.

Quote from: meow meow on January 15, 2015, 02:44:03 PM
Cross Clay off the list. Won't be ready for round 1.

@ meow meow. Thoughts on J Johannisen with Missy now missing !

Garlett - New team, playing in a position they desperately need. Priced at about 260k so he is a stepping stone player. I expect Jeffy to try and impress early and when he has a good season he generally starts well. He averaged a ton through the first 10 rounds of 2013 and if we can get something similar he will be brilliant for cash generation. He is a confidence player so if he is looking good in the NAB he is one guy that it will translate early into the year. It is not about what he averages come seasons end with Jeff because he isn't a keeper, but if he gets you that production early you are in front of the competition with a very handy point of difference. 
Nick Graham- Graham has been really good at VFL level for the Blues the last couple of seasons, when he has come into the seniors it has generally been as the sub. I have always seen him as Brocks replacement, so with Brock gone, the plodder of Nick Graham should hopefully see some more game time in the 1's. I was using the Fanplanner when I made this list and it has him as DPP but he is actually just a pure mid. This has changed my thinking on him, if he was DPP I would seriously consider him at his price, but as a pure mid not so much. I would rather save same cash and go Van Berlo
Jed Lamb - He was rated by the Swans and went to the Giants for a crack at playing a bit more which never eventuated. He is an awkward price but he can score ok when he gets a crack at it. I just don't know if he will be getting games which is the first big cross against his name
Chris Knights - Knights is a gun, just very injury prone. At under 230k, if he is fit for round 1 he has to be considered since he has the ability to ton up on a regular basis, it is just he hasn't been on the park on a regular basis.
Vardy - Probably won't be ready early but he is talented relatively cheap. I don't know how Geelong plan on structuring up and when Vardy plays I don't know if can average more then 50 after a long layoff. It will hurt in terms of cash generation
Reid - Well he is injured again, but based on price he has to be looked at if he is ready to go round 1. I still probably won't touch him because he seems a guy that might average 60ish just because he might end up in lock down roles
Sylvia - I read he turned up fat for pre-season so what a great start already. On talent, he could at least average 80, on application, I might consider Dawson ahead of him. Not good signs already for Col
Salem - I really like him and he seems like a Paul Roos type of player. He was subbed a lot so he could build up a tank, but when he got going he could play. His 2nd year in the system could see him boost his average and with a crop of new kids getting the vest he should bump up the average.
Dennis - He can probably average 60 for the season and if the sub rule is abolished that will help him out as well. I don't know if he will get games or how many, but on price he could be good for cash generation
Blease - Well, he can run fast. Geelong need pace so that might help him get a game. If he is named round 1 and the sub rule is abolished I will look at him, but he is selfish and doesn't work defensively. His selfishness also sees him have a high clanger rate and the fact he is also an uncontested player. It looks like a bad recipe for SC

Forwards part 3 coming up

Awesome work man.

Membrey - So he is expected to get games at the Saints, but a young KPP guy in a potentially crappy Saints line up might mean bad news for scoring. He is coming under consideration but I want him to wow me with his NAB performances because from the small AFL sample size I don't know if he can make an impact right away. There might be a couple of other cheaper guys that can average higher.
Kommer - He is still recovering from injury but I loved him in my side a couple of seasons ago. He tackles and impacts plays which is SC gold, he is also pretty cheap and has a mature body with a full season of AFL experience. If fit I would prefer him over Membrey at this point
Clark - Body and mind the issue here, he can play, no doubt about it, even if he only averages 60 he will generate cash which is what we want. I want to see him play in the NAB before even looking at him though due to the past issues. The word navicular was never good when talked about with big guys and that was one of the issues Mitch had
Saad - Welcome back Ahmed, cheaper then Membrey with AFL experience. He also has a chip on his shoulder so if he is named for round 1 he could be very handy early in the season
Brandon Jack - The younger Jack is still working on improving his game and was a sub a fair bit when he was in the 1's last year. He has shown flashes of ability and if the Swans want to inject more pace into the team Jack could be a handy rookie priced player at some point next season, especially if the sub vest is gone
Robbie Tarrant - With the pick up of Waite and the emergence of Ben Brown I don't know how Tarrant fits in with the Roos. He had an entire season that was injury effected last year and he now starts priced at under 150k. Yes he is a KPP, but if he is named round 1 you would say he has solid JS as long as his body holds up. As an expensive F7 he could be a great option since he will have good job security and earn some cash along the way.
Karnezis - He burnt me in 2013, I was pretty pissed the entire season I had him in my starting team instead of Dwyer and I don't know if he fits in at the Pies. If he does get a gig I will look at his first two games before bringing him in because I would rather trade him in then trade him out once he spuds up again
Hogan - The most talked about rookie last season is now looking good to go this year. He is in front in terms of development compared to your usual young guy, if he is named round 1 I would rather him over someone like Karnezis, even if the ceiling does look like a 60 early in a young key forwards career. It is about the cash generation
Harper - Well he is cheap, so there is that. I think he has gone backward in his development, but if he is named early with no sub rule around he could be someone to consider
Menzel x2 - The older Menz is coming of nth knee reco. He is cheap, but his knees are shot, I don't know how good a pick he will be, the younger will be needed as a crumbing forward now more then ever with Carlton losing Jeffy and bringing in a spuddy Tutt as a replacement. There will be more midfield minutes up for grabs and if he looks to get some in the NAB he could be worth considering. I think he might be too expensive though
Lambert - My pick of the basement rookies. I wanted him at Carlton pretty badly, he is a half forward/mid and this is something Richmond lacks in terms of quality. He should have been drafted already and if he can get a game round 1 I am locking him in. Even a 50 average at his price should be enough to get a nice little cash boost

I'll do the other positions another day

Wow just realised Tom Bell is a fwd. He is a lock now for me

Quote from: tabs on January 15, 2015, 05:16:08 PM
Wow just realised Tom Bell is a fwd. He is a lock now for me

I didn't realise he was a fwd either lol.
Don't know about locking him in just yet :P

Decisions, decisions. If I go with ruck cover I probably won't go with someone like Bell/Monfries, but if I risk it and start Kreuz with no cover in the forward line then I might look at starting one of those guys. The one that I still think stands out isJeff Garlett if he kills it in the NAB. A 90 average from Jeffy early could be a difference maker. It probably sounds horrible at face value, but go and have a look at his early season scores every 2nd year.

I'm strongly considering starting him, will be a ridiculous POD cause everyone has written him off. Gotta wait to see how he goes in the NAB cup as you said. He is 250k so anything 80 plus would be awesome.

Am considering Garlett also lads, have put him in and taken him out of my fan planner squad a number of times, but I really did think the same as you guys, and think that he could well average 80+ and rise to $450kish and be a great stepping stone for a premium.

Quote from: _wato on January 15, 2015, 07:31:12 PM
Am considering Garlett also lads, have put him in and taken him out of my fan planner squad a number of times, but I really did think the same as you guys, and think that he could well average 80+ and rise to $450kish and be a great stepping stone for a premium.

Yeah agreed man but I'm unsure if it's worth the risk, everyone seems to be going with Bellchambers for 50k more but I reckon Giles will be #1 at Essendon and Belly won't be as good as everyone thinks. Do you have Belly as well?

Quote from: Vinny on January 15, 2015, 07:36:08 PM
Yeah agreed man but I'm unsure if it's worth the risk, everyone seems to be going with Bellchambers for 50k more but I reckon Giles will be #1 at Essendon and Belly won't be as good as everyone thinks. Do you have Belly as well?

Nah I brought the Belcho/Giles issue up in another thread as well. Giles won't leave GWS to go not play at another team so I expect him to be either the number 1 ruck or maybe a 60/40 split with Belch. I might do my ruck list now

Nic Nat - No Cox means he is officially the guy and will get the majority of the ruck work. He is a proven scorer but has just had injury issues the last couple of seasons. He seemed to be over it at the end of last year so a full pre-season with no hiccups means he is the lock of all locks
Minno - Does everyone remember the start of last year when Sauce was a never again and the spuddiest player going around? Yeah I do and Minno seems to be lumped into that category this season. The fact is top dollar guys since the Cox/Sandi glory days don't tend to back it up, I have brought this up time and time again with a bit of proof. So this brings me back to Minno, he has had the down year so a bounce back could be on the cards this season. He was also carrying an injury last season which saw him get dropped so he is one I am going to look at but at a similar price to Nic Nat (NN is cheaper) I will probably pass unless the midprice guys look cooked
Berger - So I was on the Leunberger bandwagon when he was coming off his achilles, however last year I was avoiding him for one reason in particular and that was the inclusion of Trent West. While West is a spud, he forced Leuenberger to play deep forward which killed his scoring, now we have Stef Martin in the team. Assuming Martin is going to force Leunberger to play forward I will be hesitant with him
Kreuz - Our coach is a spud. Add in his injury history, but if our coach decides to not be a massive f-wit and play him in his natural position lock and load him
Belcho- Giles is the factor here, if I start Bellchambers it will likely be as a forward for ruck cover but it depends on my strategy. If there are any rookie priced guys getting games they might get a look in at ruck 3 and I can gamble with my ruck injuries and pick someone like Jeffy
Hammer - Top two in the league for hitouts to advantage, if Maric gets injured close to the start of the season lock in the Hammer at his price.
Tom Nicholls - I think a lot of people will look at this a bit wtf. Tom Nicholls plays a very similar game to Nic Nat and the way he plays is brilliant for SC. Now that Smith is back and the Suns have tall timber it will be a battle between Nicholls and Smith for the #1 ruck role, if Nicholls wins out I really like him for his price. He is about 10k more then Kreuz. I am pretty sure during his run in 2013 he averaged 100 if you take out his sub game.
Grundy - 30k more then Belcho  and far more talented. I see him as a better player then Witts but he needs to stop giving away FA's. He would probably be the last choice out of the above guys

I can't believe you blokes are considering Jeff Garlett! An absolute hack!!!!

What I have taken out of his is your love for kreuz as number 1 ruck at blues ... Will have to pay more attention in nab for him

Love the thought of Tom Nichols though! Like him a lot

Quote from: eaglesman on January 15, 2015, 08:39:05 PM
I can't believe you blokes are considering Jeff Garlett! An absolute hack!!!!

What I have taken out of his is your love for kreuz as number 1 ruck at blues ... Will have to pay more attention in nab for him

Love the thought of Tom Nichols though! Like him a lot

He has kicked more then 40 goals a year twice (39 another year) so he isn't a hack. Take it from someone that has watched every AFL game he has played, he is a confidence player, when he is confident he is brilliant. If he is flying in the NAB it will translate into some good early season form. I am not looking at him as a keeper, but just  a stepping stone to a premium once he earns enough cash. He is priced mid 200's which is pretty good for this purpose, if he can average 80 early (which he is more then capable of) then you should get a nice price rise.

I have watch every game. I have done so for many years.
This bloke is not worth a supercoach selection.

Your summaries of just about every player so far have been really really good.
I would much prefer the saving of 50k for a Salem

Jeffy has to really be flying in the NAB though for me to consider him. As I said, he is a confidence player, if he is confident he kills it and when he kills it he has a ceiling. If the risk pays off you are probably a couple of steps in front of everyone. It is just someone to watch along with the other 30 forwards on my list  :P


I have also noticed some mistakes like rotation the cap instead of a cap on rotations  ::) Watching basketball and typing means my spelling and grammar is going to have a bad time

Really really enjoyed this read Matty.
I'm pretty set on my forward midfield and ruck line but would love to hear a write up on ur defense watch list.
Don't think there is a need for stepping stones in the forward line this year. Feel very confident I can pick four forward keepers.
Good stuff mate keep it coming

Quote from: Dayze on January 16, 2015, 01:47:41 AM
Really really enjoyed this read Matty.
I'm pretty set on my forward midfield and ruck line but would love to hear a write up on ur defense watch list.
Don't think there is a need for stepping stones in the forward line this year. Feel very confident I can pick four forward keepers.
Good stuff mate keep it coming

I will do that line next

Simmo - A couple of reasons I am looking at Simmo as a lock starter. First is the emergence of a couple of young guys at the Blues in Ciaran Sheehan and Dylan Buckley. Throw in Yaz and Docherty and there is a plethora of young rebounding defenders at the Blues. You also have Andrew Walker who I would prefer Carlton use up the ground but I am unsure if he will be as another rebounding defender. So what this means is I can see Simmo used on the wing where he has been so damaging in the past. If he looks to be playing mainly on the wing then he should comfortable average around the 95 mark. The Blues also have a pretty good early run of teams which should also help out Simmo
Seedsman - He was hurt by injury last season but at his price he looks a pretty good bet to increase his average with his line breaking pace and clean disposal. I think he is one guy that can improve his average, but the question is how much. In 2013 if you take away his sub game he averaged 82 which is alright but not fantastic. He is priced at a 68 which means he he is cheap for what he is capable of and he also has a huge ceiling.
Ricky Henderson - Had a brilliant run at the end of 2013 before getting injured where he looked the goods for the Crows racking up possessions while also kicking goals. He had an injury plagued season last year which means he is cheap this year. The question is where does he fit in and can he recapture form?
Birch - With the introduction of Chip it means Birch could be roaming around the back half a bit more freely. He is a damaging player which teams put a hell of a lot of time into because of his disposal. He was always one of my SC faves since he racked up the pill at a good rate for a defender, with a lack of premium options he could be a cheaper premium that pays off. He put up the odd stinker last year but was fairly durable which helps when players start falling like flies
Harbrow - The reason I have Harbrow here is the introduction of Malceski. I think this means he now moves up the ground and becomes the link run and carry player that breaks the lines along the wing. That is normally good for an 80-95 average, depending on the player and how good their ball use is. The thing you want to do is pick defenders that look to play in the middle and that is the role I think Harbrow will have, he is also reunited with his old coach in Rocket who already knows his capabilities so I expect the transition for Jarrod to be pretty seamless. He averaged 85 off HB in his last year with the Dogs so I see that as a starting point
Walker/Yarran - The reason I included these two together is I expect one to play up forward. The one that gets to play off HB/wing is the one to pick, hopefully we get an idea in the NAB cup as either of these guys could turn out to be really strong POD's
Geary - The reason I have included Geary starts with his price. He is relatively cheap, which is good, however he has been prone to defensive roles which hurts his scoring. The reason I am looking at Geary goes back to his 2013 season, in particular, his start to the season. He averaged 95 over his first 5 rounds, while it is a small sample size, you only need him to score well early to become a decent stepping stone. He is probably too pricey being over 300k for this, but if he looks to be racking up possessions off HB in the preseason I might consider him
Roberton - Another guy that had a decent start the season a couple of years ago when switching over to the Saints. At mid 200k he is an interesting price and with a lack of defenders if he can push to around a 75 average (his 2013 average which included two sub games) he could be a decent stepping stone. I probably won't consider him at this point but I will keep my eye on him through the NAB
La Bamba - I am not his biggest fan if I am being honest. One of my mates is a Melbourne supporter and was pretty pissed when he moved over there. He went to training around the Christmas/New Years period and his words to me were 'I hate him, but he looked really good out ther'. Roos has picked him up for a reason and from what I have read he looks to be doing a lot of stoppage work. In a year where premium defenders look to be around a 90, he very well could be one, especially if he is lining up at stoppages a fair chunk of the time
Zak Jones - When I watched him play for the Swans he impressed me, with Malceski gone a spot opens up in the team, if he can grab his opportunity he is cheap enough to warrant a selection.
Whitecross - Simply because he is cheap as chips and a talented player that has had bad luck with his knees.
Walking Beundaid - Mr Waters can't seem to shake the injury curse, he can score well, but he appears to be injured very often. The last injury was said to be career threatening which makes me hesitant even if he is good to go round 1
Harry Taylor - Put up decent numbers a couple years ago but he was down on form last year and he doesn't seem settled in one position. The pickups of Stanley and Mitch Clark intrigue me because it might mean he is more settled in defense and can play loose which will equal a lot of points from intercept marks.
Hurn - He is a gun and I really like him, my issue is that he has had 2 significant injuries in the past 2 seasons which have killed a lot of coaches. I took SC off last year but if I played I had Hurn locked and loaded due to his injury score which meant he was under priced. He is under priced again, but can I trust him to not get injured and ruin my season?

I'd like to throw Jason Johannisen on the watchlist.
Had a modest season but in the games that Higgins missed, JJ scored 118 and 107.
Will be either Biggs or Johannisen who takes over Higgins role.
Would like to get some Bulldogs supporters views on this.
On my watchlist. Keen to see his pre season games.

Gaz - The shoulder is the only real worry, if it looks good to go round 1 and he has no further setbacks then he is locked and loaded.
Pendles - The other SC star. He is cheaper then Rocky so he will be the guy I lock in as long as he isn't carrying any niggling injuries.
Sidebottom - My smokey pick, I looked at Steele's back end to last year pretty closely and he was a SC star. He averaged 122 in that time with one score under 100 and a high of 178. He had 5 scores under 100 and two of those were in the first two rounds. If he can keep pumping out those consistent scores and with his ceiling he could easily be a top 8 mid at the end of the season.
Barlow - He had a slow start when he returned from injury before hitting a purple patch. With Fyfe under a cloud Barlow is the cheaper accumulator of the pill. He has a poor bye but is one to monitor
Heppell - He has been slowly improving and the only thing stopping him from being a super premo is his disposal. He seems like the guy that will hit the next level. A poor bye is the issue here
Bryce - Bryce had his most consistent season in the league last year and appeared to have a harder edge. He had a slow first couple rounds before hitting a purple patch in the middle of the season. He could be a handy POD with his huge ceiling and I will keep my eye on him as I think he still has improvement in him
Boak - Another guy that keeps improving. He is Ports best player and their leader, but for SC I am not sure. Again another guy that could be a POD but someone I am looking at more in the draft game. Huge ceiling but too often he has sub 80 scores which will hurt his average.
Danger - He was  frustrating last year since he was carrying an injury and not scoring well in patches, but we know his ability and he wins the contested ball which is SC gold. He could bounce back for a 110+ average but with the way he plays he is prone to those little niggle. I might look at him more as an upgrade for a multitude of reasons starting with the contract year. If he looks fit and firing around the byes he could be one of my first upgrades.
KJack - I <3 him. He is up there with Eddie as my fav non Carlton player, I love the way he plays and it translates into SC points. He was carrying an injury for most of the season and eventually was pushed forward with Parker ready to take over in the guts. The big number that I noticed for Jack that was down last year were his tackle numbers. He is quite possibly the best two way mid in the comp and the fact his tackle numbers were down from about half way in the year says that something was up. If he is fit and firing I see him as really underpriced for what he is capable of, the man is a machine with a huge ceiling and could be the best available POD at that price range. He has also managed to get those clunker scores out of his game and his poor is still serviceable
Hanners - He had a horrid start to the season, but when Sydney turned there form around so did Hanners. From round 5 until his injury game Hanners averaged 124.4 which is just ridiculous. He then finished the season off with a 154 against the Tiges and 130 against the Crowley tag before a quiet prelim and GF. I see him as under priced and I am trying to flip a coin between Hanners and Jack

Griff- So Griff had the monster season before flopping. There were internal problems at the club which resulted in him being traded while he also had the back injury in the pre-season. If he is fit he could be a prime bounce back candidate at the new club. You have a strong supporting midfield, a huge ruck and he is so damaging that he can ruck up the points. At his price he is tempting
Boyd - We could say he is past it and the niggling injuries have probably killed his SC relevance, but he started the season fit last year and was back to his monster ways. With Griff gone the responsibility is going to fall back on Boyd and Libba which could see him push 110 again in his career.
Brad Crouch - He was verrrrryyyyyy good when he returned from injury and at his age you would expect him to keep getting better. The Crows would want him to push Thompson out of the team and take his role which was very lucrative scoring wise but maybe not enough to consider.
Armitage - The man has been talked about as a breakout candidate for years. He was supposed to be the Lenny/Ball replacement but never stepped up. He had injury issues last year but has demonstrated he can score well. If he looks damaging in the NAB he might be worth looking at but I don't think he can push the 110 mark so he probably is a pass. I will be looking at him for my draft team though
Jack Steven - The man is a gun plain and simple. If he can have an injury free pre-season and play most of the NAB cup I will look at locking him in. He has shown the ability to hit around the 110 mark and can go big in games which is what makes him appealing
A Swallow - He was coming off a season ending injury and was getting back into the groove of it last year. He is a proven guy that can hit around the 110 mark and fairly consistent in his performances which makes him the ideal mid 8 candidate. He also has a pretty handy bye which makes him even more appealing. The 500k price will need to be looked at as it is between him and a cheaper Jack Steven
Joey - After a hot start Joey finished with a whimper. Is age finally catching up? The thing is the man has still put up some huge scores but can he handle the attention? He tempts me, but I think I should stay away.

Scott Selwood - The youngest Selwood had a year that was a tale of poor form and injury. He is priced at an 80 average and went 105 the two seasons before. I see him as a very handy stepping stone as long as he stays away from those tagging roles. He also has a good by for this role which I like and is priced 100k cheaper then Griff. I think a Selwood/def mid price combo is likely to outscore a Griff/basement rookie combo which is making me lean towards this
Wells - Cheaper then Selwood and proven to be capable of high scores. Another guy I am considering in the stepping stone role as he has a high ceiling and that means cash quickly. He would have to be fit and played some NAB for me to consider him so I will keep an eye.
Rich - I see Rich as the poor mans Wells but the same principles apply. If Wells fails I might look at Rich for the same purpose.
Van Berlo - Cheap, verryyyyyyy cheap. If he can get his 65-70 average back it makes him worth it already considering he should have good job security.
Hallahan - Probably the 3rd option in the Wells/Rich/Hallahan trifecta.
Clay Smith - From what meow mentioned he is still nowhere near ready.
Acres - He had one of the worst performances I ever witnessed for a relatively high score. This makes me look at him as a cheap player to start with because if he can play that bad and still score decently imagine how he will score if he plays well?
Newton - Was highly rated at the Power and killed the SANFL. He goes to the Dees for opportunity and if he can get a gig in that midfield you have to consider him at his price
Biggs - Replace SANFL with NEAFL and Port with Sydney it sums up Biggs. If he is named for the Dogs he has to be considered.
Hartung - Young, pacey and cheap. If the sub vest is abolished and he looks to be lining up round 1, lock and load.
Jed Anderson - He looked the goods in the VFL game he got injured, at his price, if he is named round 1 I am locking him in. I think it will come down to one of him or Hartung


That is all of them for now

Good stuff man.

The AFL has already said the sub rule is staying.

I think the final decision will come around the NAB cup time. They are always changing their mind on things so I wouldn't be surprised if they do a backflip

Is fix your eyes on G.Horlin-Smith...! Christensen and Varcoe departures really open the door for a breakout from him!

I had looked at Horlin-Smith the last couple of seasons but I don't think he will be anything other then depth. Caddy and Guthrie have overtaken him in the midfield.

Quote from: fasttrack13 on January 18, 2015, 08:35:58 PM
Is fix your eyes on G.Horlin-Smith...! Christensen and Varcoe departures really open the door for a breakout from him!

I'm a Geelong fan and I love the hyphen! He is a good size, strong body, good in the contest and a smart runner. However he doesn't seem to have a whole lot of pace and that is what Geelong desperately need at the moment, plenty of ball winners, which GHS genuinely is, but geelong need more outside run. I'm expecting a big year from Motlop, assuming he's over his injuries. And I think Cockatoo will get games simply because we need his pace.

I think George is in the best 22 but not sure of his SC relevance.

If named cockatoo round 1 locked in for mine

Quote from: Woppa15 on January 20, 2015, 05:29:05 PM

Quote from: fasttrack13 on January 18, 2015, 08:35:58 PM
Is fix your eyes on G.Horlin-Smith...! Christensen and Varcoe departures really open the door for a breakout from him!

I'm a Geelong fan and I love the hyphen! He is a good size, strong body, good in the contest and a smart runner. However he doesn't seem to have a whole lot of pace and that is what Geelong desperately need at the moment, plenty of ball winners, which GHS genuinely is, but geelong need more outside run. I'm expecting a big year from Motlop, assuming he's over his injuries. And I think Cockatoo will get games simply because we need his pace.

I think George is in the best 22 but not sure of his SC relevance.

Where does Smedts fit into the scheme of things?

Quote from: Deadly6 on January 21, 2015, 11:43:56 AM

Quote from: Woppa15 on January 20, 2015, 05:29:05 PM

Quote from: fasttrack13 on January 18, 2015, 08:35:58 PM
Is fix your eyes on G.Horlin-Smith...! Christensen and Varcoe departures really open the door for a breakout from him!

I'm a Geelong fan and I love the hyphen! He is a good size, strong body, good in the contest and a smart runner. However he doesn't seem to have a whole lot of pace and that is what Geelong desperately need at the moment, plenty of ball winners, which GHS genuinely is, but geelong need more outside run. I'm expecting a big year from Motlop, assuming he's over his injuries. And I think Cockatoo will get games simply because we need his pace.

I think George is in the best 22 but not sure of his SC relevance.

Where does Smedts fit into the scheme of things?

The midfield depth at Geelong is Interesting at the moment.
You've got your regulars in: Selwood, Duncan, Stokes and Caddy.

Then you've got the older guys who will spend time in there but will also be making way for the younger crop: Johnson, Bartel, Kelly.

Then there's the young guys (3-5 years at club) who you would expect to get more mid time: GHS, Guthrie, Motlop, Smedts, Murdoch.

Then there's the new comers (1-2 years at club) who they will be wanting to get more time and development into: Cockatoo, Lang, Hartman.

The issue I see Geelong having is that they have a lot of mid/half fwd and mid/half back type players and only a handful of genuine midfielders. So it will come down to opponents and game day roles for a lot of the younger guys. Will be a definite wait and see on NAB to see who they're trying to promote to genuine midfielder status.

I guess that doesn't really answer your question about Smedts though

Quote from: Woppa15 on January 21, 2015, 01:07:21 PM

Quote from: Deadly6 on January 21, 2015, 11:43:56 AM

Quote from: Woppa15 on January 20, 2015, 05:29:05 PM

Quote from: fasttrack13 on January 18, 2015, 08:35:58 PM
Is fix your eyes on G.Horlin-Smith...! Christensen and Varcoe departures really open the door for a breakout from him!

I'm a Geelong fan and I love the hyphen! He is a good size, strong body, good in the contest and a smart runner. However he doesn't seem to have a whole lot of pace and that is what Geelong desperately need at the moment, plenty of ball winners, which GHS genuinely is, but geelong need more outside run. I'm expecting a big year from Motlop, assuming he's over his injuries. And I think Cockatoo will get games simply because we need his pace.

I think George is in the best 22 but not sure of his SC relevance.

Where does Smedts fit into the scheme of things?

The midfield depth at Geelong is Interesting at the moment.
You've got your regulars in: Selwood, Duncan, Stokes and Caddy.

Then you've got the older guys who will spend time in there but will also be making way for the younger crop: Johnson, Bartel, Kelly.

Then there's the young guys (3-5 years at club) who you would expect to get more mid time: GHS, Guthrie, Motlop, Smedts, Murdoch.

Then there's the new comers (1-2 years at club) who they will be wanting to get more time and development into: Cockatoo, Lang, Hartman.

The issue I see Geelong having is that they have a lot of mid/half fwd and mid/half back type players and only a handful of genuine midfielders. So it will come down to opponents and game day roles for a lot of the younger guys. Will be a definite wait and see on NAB to see who they're trying to promote to genuine midfielder status.

I guess that doesn't really answer your question about Smedts though

Fair enough, you're saying he's just one of many. He looked like he might crack it two seasons ago but hasn't progressed.

My rough first draft based on some of the guys named

Backs: Simmo, Shaw, LaBamba, Seed, R.Hendo, WhiteX, NBrown, HGoddard
Mids: Gaz, Pendles, Sidebum, Hanners, S Selwood, Van Berlo, Biggs, Boekhorst, Laverde, Freeman, Kark
Rucks: Nic Nat, Nicholls, Lobb
Forwards: Lids, BJ, Buddy, Jeffy, Kommer, Clark, Hogan, Lambert

18.2k left over

I was too tired to take a screen cap and surprisingly found it easier to type it out

I have the same rucks right now

Very unique side mate. Be careful with Hendo. With BSmith and Jaensch taking up the rebounding roles last year, plus the arrival of a new coach it's hard to see exactly what Hendo's role will be. And Nicholls, with Smith being in the frame again there are much better options imo. Also Jeff Garlett, he has only averaged over 73 once so you might need someone a bit more solid at F4. Loving the rest of the side and the unique picks like Hanners. Oh SSelwood, he's still struggling to get 100% and may miss round 1. Something to keep an eye on.

Quote from: Ricochet on January 30, 2015, 10:48:03 AM
Very unique side mate. Be careful with Hendo. With BSmith and Jaensch taking up the rebounding roles last year, plus the arrival of a new coach it's hard to see exactly what Hendo's role will be. And Nicholls, with Smith being in the frame again there are much better options imo. Also Jeff Garlett, he has only averaged over 73 once so you might need someone a bit more solid at F4. Loving the rest of the side and the unique picks like Hanners. Oh SSelwood, he's still struggling to get 100% and may miss round 1. Something to keep an eye on.

Yeah Scott selwood won't be in Your side ... Nichols is number 1 ruck for the Gold Coast ... People seem to have something against Henderson at that price will be worth it I feel

Quote from: eaglesman on January 30, 2015, 12:47:48 PM

Quote from: Ricochet on January 30, 2015, 10:48:03 AM
Very unique side mate. Be careful with Hendo. With BSmith and Jaensch taking up the rebounding roles last year, plus the arrival of a new coach it's hard to see exactly what Hendo's role will be. And Nicholls, with Smith being in the frame again there are much better options imo. Also Jeff Garlett, he has only averaged over 73 once so you might need someone a bit more solid at F4. Loving the rest of the side and the unique picks like Hanners. Oh SSelwood, he's still struggling to get 100% and may miss round 1. Something to keep an eye on.

Yeah Scott selwood won't be in Your side ... Nichols is number 1 ruck for the Gold Coast ... People seem to have something against Henderson at that price will be worth it I feel

Think ZSmith might have something to say about that but we'll see. Just feel there's better ruck options than Nicholls.
On Hendo. When he was scoring well a couple of years ago he was the crows main rebounder. Now BSmith is #1 (at an AA level too), followed by Jaensch. Not sure what Hendos role will be now. Especially with a new coach coming in. Too risky imo

Nice write-ups Matt. A lot of the guys I'm thinking of as well. Currently have Lumumba, Savage, Hanners, Greene, Krooooooz, Bennell and Tmitchell in as outsiders/potential breakouts.

Thoughts on Shane Savage? 90 average for the second half of his season with his new rebounding defenders role and is nicely priced at 370k. Shouldn't be a lack of ball in the back half for the Saints this year.

Quote from: Ricochet on January 30, 2015, 10:48:03 AM
Very unique side mate. Be careful with Hendo. With BSmith and Jaensch taking up the rebounding roles last year, plus the arrival of a new coach it's hard to see exactly what Hendo's role will be. And Nicholls, with Smith being in the frame again there are much better options imo. Also Jeff Garlett, he has only averaged over 73 once so you might need someone a bit more solid at F4. Loving the rest of the side and the unique picks like Hanners. Oh SSelwood, he's still struggling to get 100% and may miss round 1. Something to keep an eye on.

Just to explain a few of the picks, I have decided to go with guys I have done write ups on and have picked the pricier options as I can always downgrade them if need be as I get closer to the season compared to having to upgrade to those guys if they do kill it

Hendo is one guy I am keeping an eye on due to his back end of 2013 before he got injured and he did seem to start racking up the pill in a few games towards the end of last season and that seemed to have hurt Jaensch's scores. The NAB will be critical for a lot of the Adelaide boys as I think the coach will try and get them playing in the positions he wants before heading into the season proper. Considering he is 300k and the backs this year look pretty horrible he seems to represent a lot of value in terms of risk vs reward

If Nicholls is the number one ruck for the Suns I think I would prefer him over Kreuz/Berger just because Berger will be splitting time with Martin and our coach is a dick. He is also the most expensive of the 3 so I can always downgrade him to Kreuz if I do get cold feet and Kreuz does look to be lining up as the number 1 ruck.

As I said in my write up, Garlett started 2013 on fire and averaged something close to 100 over the first 9 rounds, the reason I currently have him in is as an expensive stepping stone that should average 75 but is priced at a 48. I don't see him as a keeper but a low end mid price player that can hopefully have a hot start, earn a shower load of cash and then load him off just before the byes to a premium. Again if I get cold feet or he looks horrible in the pre-season I can bring in a cheaper player since there seem to be a lot of rookie priced options on that line.

I hadn't really read much on Selwood yet since we don't hear much about the boys out west before the NAB starts. He was my preferred option out of Wells/Rich/Hallahan since when he doesn't tag he is generally good for a 105 average and was pretty durable prior to last season. He was the perfect mid 9/pricey stepping stone candidate. Again, he was the most expensive of those options so if he isn't good to go one of the other 3 comes into my side and I free up the cash to upgrade elsewhere

It is a first draft so when I get a better look at these guys I will start making some more definitive decisions. I think of the guys listed the only ones 100% locked and loaded in terms of premiums are Simpson, Gaz, Pendles, Sidebottom, Nic Nat and the 3 forwards

Quote from: My Chumps on January 30, 2015, 01:30:02 PM
Nice write-ups Matt. A lot of the guys I'm thinking of as well. Currently have Lumumba, Savage, Hanners, Greene, Krooooooz, Bennell and Tmitchell in as outsiders/potential breakouts.

Thoughts on Shane Savage? 90 average for the second half of his season with his new rebounding defenders role and is nicely priced at 370k. Shouldn't be a lack of ball in the back half for the Saints this year.

Savage intrigues me as well. If he looks to cement his spot on HB I might be looking at him a bit closer but there is always hype surrounding him each year before he gets dropped or is named the sub. I think I prefer Seedsman if he is fit just because he has such a huge ceiling and they can use his pace and line breaking ability in the team, especially since Young has been a huge flop for them.

I would also prefer Ibbotson if healthy but that is a big if

Quote from: Mat0369 on January 30, 2015, 02:57:50 PM

Hendo is one guy I am keeping an eye on due to his back end of 2013 before he got injured and he did seem to start racking up the pill in a few games towards the end of last season and that seemed to have hurt Jaensch's scores.

Jaensch averaged 95.9 with Hendo in the team.

Quote from: meow meow on January 30, 2015, 03:07:01 PM
Jaensch averaged 95.9 with Hendo in the team.

I thought Jaensch had the lean patch when Hendo came into the team but it was in fact the 4 weeks before (including the concussion game), my bad.

I need to play around with byes but I don't mind this one either

(http://i.imgur.com/7sMAN1A.png)

The thing is by having a dud R3 I will probably need a R/F in the forward line for cover. I think Lobb is a serious chance to play because Mummy will always miss games

Quote from: Mat0369 on January 30, 2015, 03:11:04 PM

Quote from: meow meow on January 30, 2015, 03:07:01 PM
Jaensch averaged 95.9 with Hendo in the team.

I thought Jaensch had the lean patch when Hendo came into the team but it was in fact the 4 weeks before (including the concussion game), my bad.

Brodie smith playing midfield will bring attention to jaensch from a forward shut down player making Henderson valuable. Either way with smith in the midfield Henderson SHOULD be above 80ppg

Quote from: fasttrack13 on January 30, 2015, 04:43:54 PM

Quote from: Mat0369 on January 30, 2015, 03:11:04 PM

Quote from: meow meow on January 30, 2015, 03:07:01 PM
Jaensch averaged 95.9 with Hendo in the team.

I thought Jaensch had the lean patch when Hendo came into the team but it was in fact the 4 weeks before (including the concussion game), my bad.

Brodie smith playing midfield will bring attention to jaensch from a forward shut down player making Henderson valuable. Either way with smith in the midfield Henderson SHOULD be above 80ppg

If he plays midfield. There's always talk of players getting more midfield roles during preseason. But when he's coming of an AA year off halfback, it'll be less likely he does move there permanently. Will be interesting to see come NAB

Quote from: Ricochet on January 30, 2015, 04:50:26 PM

Quote from: fasttrack13 on January 30, 2015, 04:43:54 PM

Quote from: Mat0369 on January 30, 2015, 03:11:04 PM

Quote from: meow meow on January 30, 2015, 03:07:01 PM
Jaensch averaged 95.9 with Hendo in the team.

I thought Jaensch had the lean patch when Hendo came into the team but it was in fact the 4 weeks before (including the concussion game), my bad.

Brodie smith playing midfield will bring attention to jaensch from a forward shut down player making Henderson valuable. Either way with smith in the midfield Henderson SHOULD be above 80ppg

If he plays midfield. There's always talk of players getting more midfield roles during preseason. But when he's coming of an AA year off halfback, it'll be less likely he does move there permanently. Will be interesting to see come NAB

Agreed Rico... It was a hypothetical comment. But I think the crows need smiths outside run and bal, use through that midfield, but I'm not sure he will.

Quote from: fasttrack13 on January 30, 2015, 04:53:52 PM

Quote from: Ricochet on January 30, 2015, 04:50:26 PM

Quote from: fasttrack13 on January 30, 2015, 04:43:54 PM

Quote from: Mat0369 on January 30, 2015, 03:11:04 PM

Quote from: meow meow on January 30, 2015, 03:07:01 PM
Jaensch averaged 95.9 with Hendo in the team.

I thought Jaensch had the lean patch when Hendo came into the team but it was in fact the 4 weeks before (including the concussion game), my bad.

Brodie smith playing midfield will bring attention to jaensch from a forward shut down player making Henderson valuable. Either way with smith in the midfield Henderson SHOULD be above 80ppg

If he plays midfield. There's always talk of players getting more midfield roles during preseason. But when he's coming of an AA year off halfback, it'll be less likely he does move there permanently. Will be interesting to see come NAB

Agreed Rico... It was a hypothetical comment. But I think the crows need smiths outside run and bal, use through that midfield, but I'm not sure he will.

Yep with ya mate. Will be interesting to see how much the new coach changes it up, if at all

Midfield premos all round 12!

Quote from: Ricochet on January 30, 2015, 05:00:20 PM
Yep with ya mate. Will be interesting to see how much the new coach changes it up, if at all

Hendo could also move to a half forward flank which will be interesting, he is too good a player to not get a game, but come NAB we might get a better idea.

Quote from: Jackross10 on January 30, 2015, 05:01:02 PM
Midfield premos all round 12!

Does it really matter? Come bye time you will be starting to upgrade you mids anyway and I can start getting in guys with round 11/13 byes then.

Playing around with teams again and I don't mind this one either

(http://i.imgur.com/riU98Ut.png)

2.7k left over

I don't know if I like loading in the backs since they make up so little of your total scoring output, but if the forward/mid rookies work out I think you give up a premium on that line to go two mid price options on another. Steven would be the key to this team working as he has shown the ability to average close to 110 otherwise Swan out to Membrey and Steven to Rockliff and 41.6k is a possibility

These are the last two teams I have been playing around with. I have been left with barely any cash in both sides

(http://i.imgur.com/d0Jz3pp.png)



(http://i.imgur.com/5i1A6Vq.png)

Like the first teams backline better.

Nah but in all seriousness I'm feeling Harley this year over Swallow. Maybe not for total points (although it should be close) but also because he's more likely to be a top 6 forward than Swallow to be a top 8-12 mid which you want at the end of your season.

I had the Swallow team and was looking at it and thinking, can Swallow bounce back to a 105-110 average and is he someone I would want in my final 8 mids. The answer was no and I didn't want to sink 500k into a mid 9 so I was trying to figure if I could get Harley into my team. I was slightly short on cash, made a few moves and there we had it. Harley has issues with his body, but on average I think he will be top 10 in his position, Swallow might be top 20 and on the bottom end of the 20.

I would love to roll with Gaz, Pendles, Sidebottom, Hanners and Jack Steven as my 5 mids but they all have the same bye. I think Steven and Swallow are likely to average around the same and with Steven being that much cheaper I would feel comfortable making that move.

I read that Harley was best on in the match sim for the Suns. I reallllllllyyyyyy want to start him but I know he is going to get injured at some point.

So I was fiddling around with some formations today

My F4 changed from Jeffy to Swan to Gus to Harley. I had to downgrade Whitecross and Lobb to Brown and Durdin to get the cash from Swan to Bennell.

(http://i.imgur.com/tzddOLM.png)

I have 25 k in the bank with this team

I also had Beams instead of Hanners and Goldstein in the ruck at one point if I do go Garlett up forward.

You're exposing yourself to 7 rookies from the outset, that's too many in my opinion. I think you need to bring at least 1 more premo into the mix, preferably a midfielder.

6/7 seems about right. To get another premium mid in means I am going to have to probably go with 12 keepers instead of the 13 I have an pick up a couple of extra mid priced players. The only guy cheaper then Hanners I am considering is Steven but with Hanners and the two Collingwood boys I am screwed in terms of pricing. I had Scooter in my first draft and he seems to be only sort of running now so he has a line through him for now.

Midfield and forward line is where I expect to make most of my cash generation with so many potential rookie priced players and I have gone for the pricier options so I can downgrade them but know what my cash limit is at. I would rather a Bennell/Salem combo then something like Wells and Bellchambers by swinging Laverde up forward (even though it gives me more cash). The trade down the track is more valuable to me in an upgrade situation.

I actually did a quick play around now and to get A Swallow into the mids I had to trade out Bennell, Biggs, Salem and Durdin to bring in Bellcho, Swallow, Robbie Tarrant and Read (who won't get a game). I prefer the first set of players to the 2nd.

Bellchambers I like as a pick given he can cover your rucks, he will also score higher than any rookie so it makes sense to me. If you are keen on keeping Durdin then swing him back for Jones and use Read/Cox as you swingman & captain's loophole. Salem is awkwardly priced I think, great footballer but there's so many cheap forward options this year that it makes sense go for value and make your money quicker. You have flexibility too, just swing Krakouer or Laverde forward and bring in another mid. There's also Caleb Daniel to consider as a cheap option.

The whole point of the Durdin pick is ruck coverage. I would rather the 40-50 potential score he can provide to avoid a donut and also generate some cash instead of sitting Read/Cox in my rucks and have Bellchambers do the same thing when I am not sold on him.

Salem is basically an expensive rookie since he is cheaper then Brayshaw/Petracca and he should play most games after being eased into footy last season. He also appears to be having a ripping preseason and should have better job security then some of the other rookies. I would also prefer to be able to downgrade to someone like Saad then have to find the cash to grab Salem as I get closer to the season. As the rookies start to shape around the NAB I will play around with it more, but the more cash I allocate to getting the best available rookies the easier it will make it for me to swing the changes.

Fair enough, not so sure Durdin will play loads of football this year, he' still very raw and talls take time. If he's named round one then fair enough, if he's not then I would just wait until he's on the bubble. I think for ruck coverage Belly & Cox is the way to go.

Quote from: Bully on February 09, 2015, 12:40:10 AM
Fair enough, not so sure Durdin will play loads of football this year, he' still very raw and talls take time. If he's named round one then fair enough, if he's not then I would just wait until he's on the bubble. I think for ruck coverage Belly & Cox is the way to go.

Everyone will be picking durdin if named round 1

But he won't be

Quote from: eaglesman on February 09, 2015, 12:48:44 AM

Quote from: Bully on February 09, 2015, 12:40:10 AM
Fair enough, not so sure Durdin will play loads of football this year, he' still very raw and talls take time. If he's named round one then fair enough, if he's not then I would just wait until he's on the bubble. I think for ruck coverage Belly & Cox is the way to go.

Everyone will be picking durdin if named round 1

But he won't be

I suspect that is correct so why not wait until he's on the bubble? There will be so few defensive downgrades so I'm more inclined to wait until he has a couple of games under his belt.

Ruck rookies are going to be tougher to find then defensive rookies. I had Lobb initially in there because I expect Mummy to get injured at some point, if Durdin is named round 1 then he is a lock as a ruck otherwise I will start with Lobb or Nankervis

For me I would do this
Delidio/Goddard out for Swan.
Durdin to Nankers who is likely to get games this year.
And that could get one of Lumummumumumba/Hanners into a super premium player.

That's what I would do.

Quote from: Money Shot on February 09, 2015, 08:07:04 PM
For me I would do this
Delidio/Goddard out for Swan.
Durdin to Nankers who is likely to get games this year.
And that could get one of Lumummumumumba/Hanners into a super premium player.

That's what I would do.

Just going from what I wrote earlier when I was doing my watch list

QuoteLids - Pretty obvious selection here, running mid that was always a lock as a defender, he should average over 100 so unless injury strikes I am likely to be starting him
BJ - Same as Lids, throw in the fact he was averaging quite a bit early in the season last year. He seems to start well then tail off from memory the last few seasons so if I pick him it will be early to get those big scores

Pretty much my 3 forward locks are Lids, BJ and Buddy and that isn't changing.

QuoteSwan - I am not sold on him, he had a huge drop off in scoring and people will say it is because he was injured. I will make 3 points with Swan, age catches up with everyone, as you get older you need to prepare your body better between games and he is not one to strike me as doing this and I don't think it is a coincidence that the most rotated player in the league struggled when the rotation on the cap came in.

I still stick by this and unless I see something to really sway me (which I haven't yet) I will be leaving him out of my team. The same reason guys like Judd and Pav are no longer fantasy options, age and their body. I did have him in one of my earlier drafts but I wasn't a huge fan of that team

QuoteLa Bamba - I am not his biggest fan if I am being honest. One of my mates is a Melbourne supporter and was pretty pissed when he moved over there. He went to training around the Christmas/New Years period and his words to me were 'I hate him, but he looked really good out ther'. Roos has picked him up for a reason and from what I have read he looks to be doing a lot of stoppage work. In a year where premium defenders look to be around a 90, he very well could be one, especially if he is lining up at stoppages a fair chunk of the time

The more I read the more he is a lock. He is doing a lot of stoppage work and if he looks to be doing that in the NAB he is locked and loaded.

QuoteHanners - He had a horrid start to the season, but when Sydney turned there form around so did Hanners. From round 5 until his injury game Hanners averaged 124.4 which is just ridiculous. He then finished the season off with a 154 against the Tiges and 130 against the Crowley tag before a quiet prelim and GF. I see him as under priced and I am trying to flip a coin between Hanners and Jack

I was tossing up Beams but I wouldn't be disappointed using the cash elsewhere and maybe bring in Goldstein if I did downgrade Bennell. I think Hanners could be top 10 this year so I am have pretty much locked him in at mid 4. Sidebottom and Hanners are the two POD's in the midfield I am really keen on.

The Nank move is one I am considering but for cash purposes at the moment I am leaving Durdin in as it will be easier to downgrade then upgrade.

Obviously the point of the thread initially was to create a list of guys I was contemplating and try and monitor their preseason performances in the NAB. I am just currently trying to create a team based around those guys and it will likely change again once the pre-season comp starts and I can gauge what the hell is going on in terms of where guys are playing.

So with the news on Waters, Birch and Lids I have swapped them out for the time being to Pearce, Newnes and Martin. I also have 72.9k in the bank to play around with as I get closer to the NAB.

I just decided to play around with a stronger back line and this is what I came up with

Simpson, Smith, Shaw, Birchall, Lumumba, Seedsman/Ibbo/Ricky Henderson, Lever, Hugh Goddard
Gaz, Pendles, Sidebottom, Hanners, Van Berlo, Biggs, Heeney, Boekhorst, Jed Anderson, Freeman, Krak
Nic Nat, Kreuz, Durdin
Goddard, Franklin, Martin, Salem, Laverde, Clark, Hogan, Lambert

It leaves me with $100 if I have Seedsman otherwise more cash with one of the other two.

Hanners is my only question mark.
I think you could go Lumumba to Whitecross and upgrade Salem.

It's a very interesting team!

Really rate it, but I personally can't go without a solid ruck back-up with NN and Krooz.

Not sure about Salem's scoring potential either.

I still prefer my prior team with Harley at F4 and Salem at F5. I think he should be a decent forward rookie option with a better tank this year and strong pre-season and I like committing the cash to him at this point compared to finding the cash for him later.

With the ruck cover I will go with a playing rookie if there is one otherwise I will take a punt with one of Drudin, Lobb or Nank as I don't like the Belcho option.

I just thought with how weak the backline looks I would see if I could get 5/6 keepers and see what the rest of my side looks like instead of the 4 I had.

Quote from: Mat0369 on February 08, 2015, 10:32:00 PM
So I was fiddling around with some formations today

My F4 changed from Jeffy to Swan to Gus to Harley. I had to downgrade Whitecross and Lobb to Brown and Durdin to get the cash from Swan to Bennell.

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I have 25 k in the bank with this team

I also had Beams instead of Hanners and Goldstein in the ruck at one point if I do go Garlett up forward.

I still like this team but maybe downgrade Waters to Whitex and get a super premium mid.
Would love your thoughts on mine.

That team with the tweaks of Waters, Birch and Lids out due to injury clouds and then replaced them with Newnes (temp), Martin and Pearce is the one I am running with into the NAB

Playing around with my team again and I have gone with a few options

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cash left over $116,900

I don't mind the cash left over to play around with in the NAB. Bennell has become Swan due to a few more question marks over Bennell at the moment. I am still not sold on Swan but I do have the cash to upgrade him need be. Pearce became Seed due to what I think might be better JS at the moment. Nicholls has become Belcho who after I saw his hitout to advantage numbers I am happy to slot into R2 in this side

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cash left over $2,100

The extra cash I spent on Birch who I like this year but I dislike the 5 premo defender set up. The other issue I have with Birch is his knee injury which is why I turned him into Newnes but all the other defenders have question marks as well

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cash left over $20,600

Pearce and Nicholls back in, Clark to Belcho and Durdin to Cox for ruck coverage

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cash left over $19,000

Belcho and Cox out (assuming Belcho suspensions) and Jeffy in with Durdin. Jeffy is one I named earlier in my write ups and keeps tempting me with the way he is flying this pre-season. If he keeps it up through the NAB I will have to seriously consider him.

Personally like team 1 the best mate. Have enough cash to get a decent rookie ruck if one pops up. Would upgrade Newnes, but I'm just not sold on him.

Quote from: Ricochet on February 24, 2015, 12:56:30 AM
Personally like team 1 the best mate. Have enough cash to get a decent rookie ruck if one pops up. Would upgrade Newnes, but I'm just not sold on him.

Agree team one is the better side. The reason for me is Nicholls. He is the 2nd choice ruck behind Zac Smith at the suns,

Yes he will get games but I just dunno what his role is going to be.

Quote from: Ricochet on February 24, 2015, 12:56:30 AM
Personally like team 1 the best mate. Have enough cash to get a decent rookie ruck if one pops up. Would upgrade Newnes, but I'm just not sold on him.

Team 1 is also the one I am leaning towards

I am not super confident with Newnes either but of the guys I am looking at priced above hiim, Malcho is too expensive, Brodie Smith has his own question marks, Birch got injured so he is now an upgrade tartget in my eyes, Hibbo has the ASADA stuff hanging over him and Hurn has managed an injury over the last two seasons which has seen his price drop heavily. I have him as a placeholder for now and I will monitor him in the NAB to see where he plays and how he uses the ball

Quote from: AaronKirk on February 24, 2015, 01:17:34 AM
Agree team one is the better side. The reason for me is Nicholls. He is the 2nd choice ruck behind Zac Smith at the suns,

Yes he will get games but I just dunno what his role is going to be.

Dixon is injured again which opens the door for a Smith/Nicholls combo. I see Nicholls shouldering most of the ruck work if that is the case as the Suns have always talked about Smith being able to play forward in some capacity. Of the mid price guys I prefer Nicholls to Leuenberger right now, but due to his price I see him as a decent placeholder for the minute. He is another I have had every intention of monitoring through the NAB and since Nicholls had pretty decent hit out to advantage numbers and high contested possession numbers I can't see the ruck changes hindering him.

And for those that can't be f'ed going back to read it

Quote from: Mat0369 on January 15, 2015, 08:18:45 PM
Tom Nicholls - I think a lot of people will look at this a bit wtf. Tom Nicholls plays a very similar game to Nic Nat and the way he plays is brilliant for SC. Now that Smith is back and the Suns have tall timber it will be a battle between Nicholls and Smith for the #1 ruck role, if Nicholls wins out I really like him for his price. He is about 10k more then Kreuz. I am pretty sure during his run in 2013 he averaged 100 if you take out his sub game.

i rate team 1 the best mate, love the hanners pick! Will have a massive year, great work!

Interesting structure in Rucks that you have gone with Matt. Could really pay off for you as it allows extra strength in other lines. You need to take risks to get the biscuit. I also will be keeping an eye on GC and Nicholls during NAB cup and may even go down to Metricon for lions/Suns clash.

Like Team 1 overall but all have merit. Would keep an eye on rookies in NAB cup and adjust accordingly.  Keep an eye on Dick at Carlton as a possible replacement for Brown.

If Nicholls shoulders most of the ruck I will definitely be picking him. Big watch in the nab for my team

Definitely like the last team heading into the NAB cup which will ultimately determine whether I rate the Nicholls pick.

Still think Mitchell > Swan tho.

There is not a lot of data to go on as they have only ever played one match together. That being against Adelaide, Round 8 2012

Smith played mostly in the ruck with Nicholls forward with some ruck time.

Smith had 20 disposals and 22 hitouts to Nicholls 11 and 10 respectively.

In all their other games, roughly speaking, Smith average 12.5 disposals and 18 hitouts compared to 12 disposals and 21 hitouts for Nicholls.

As noted Smith can go forward and at times as a resting forward has kicked goals.

When you take out their injury affected games from last year both average  roughly 12 disposals and 23 hitouts per game.
Smith scored 2.4 whilst Nicholls didn't trouble the scorers.

I wish I knew their HTA stats to see what sort of averages could be predicted for them but my gut tells me Smith is the better player and will have more ruck time, not that I am going to pick him, But I concede Nicholls could be an option, very ballsy option, but an option none the less.

Put it this way though, there numbers over their careers in terms of hitouts and disposal match Nic Nat who averages 12 disposals and 20.69 hitouts per game.

QuoteSwan - I am not sold on him, he had a huge drop off in scoring and people will say it is because he was injured. I will make 3 points with Swan, age catches up with everyone, as you get older you need to prepare your body better between games and he is not one to strike me as doing this and I don't think it is a coincidence that the most rotated player in the league struggled when the rotation on the cap came in.

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QuoteBreust - There has always been more talk of him getting extra midfield time each season, if he can get his average up to 20 disposals a game he could be a good pick but he is more a guy that intrigues me that I probably won't touch until I see some proof

Spent most of the time up forward and wasn't a huge factor

QuoteTaylor Adams - A young guy that showed plenty at the Giants in his first season. With Beams and Ball gone and Swan on the decline there is going to be room for some of these young Pies to step up. He is also probably too pricey to be a stepping stone close to 400k so unless there are really good signs that he is going to rack up the pill I will likely pass. He might push toward 90 this year but might be 1 or 2 seasons away from getting close to the ton

Looked the goods. He racked up the pill but butchered the ball on occasions. I am curious to see how he goes with a few A-Graders back and if his role continues.

QuoteReid - Well he is injured again, but based on price he has to be looked at if he is ready to go round 1. I still probably won't touch him because he seems a guy that might average 60ish just because he might end up in lock down roles

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QuoteKarnezis - He burnt me in 2013, I was pretty pissed the entire season I had him in my starting team instead of Dwyer and I don't know if he fits in at the Pies. If he does get a gig I will look at his first two games before bringing him in because I would rather trade him in then trade him out once he spuds up again

He started slow and finished with a bang. I am not sure if he fits into the 22 when they have a full squad and for the first 3 quarters I thought he clearly wouldn't be lining up round 1

QuoteGrundy - 30k more then Belcho  and far more talented. I see him as a better player then Witts but he needs to stop giving away FA's. He would probably be the last choice out of the above guys

Holy crap. He starred tonight, got his hands to everything, got a bit of the ball and kicked a goal. If he keeps it up he might be my R2 to start the year.

QuoteSeedsman - He was hurt by injury last season but at his price he looks a pretty good bet to increase his average with his line breaking pace and clean disposal. I think he is one guy that can improve his average, but the question is how much. In 2013 if you take away his sub game he averaged 82 which is alright but not fantastic. He is priced at a 68 which means he he is cheap for what he is capable of and he also has a huge ceiling

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QuoteBirch - With the introduction of Chip it means Birch could be roaming around the back half a bit more freely. He is a damaging player which teams put a hell of a lot of time into because of his disposal. He was always one of my SC faves since he racked up the pill at a good rate for a defender, with a lack of premium options he could be a cheaper premium that pays off. He put up the odd stinker last year but was fairly durable which helps when players start falling like flies

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QuoteWhitecross - Simply because he is cheap as chips and a talented player that has had bad luck with his knees.

DNP

QuotePendles - The other SC star. He is cheaper then Rocky so he will be the guy I lock in as long as he isn't carrying any niggling injuries.

DNP

Quote
Sidebottom - My smokey pick, I looked at Steele's back end to last year pretty closely and he was a SC star. He averaged 122 in that time with one score under 100 and a high of 178. He had 5 scores under 100 and two of those were in the first two rounds. If he can keep pumping out those consistent scores and with his ceiling he could easily be a top 8 mid at the end of the season.

Racked up the pill and with some extra attention he still found the ball and hit the score board. I have had him in my side since SC opened and I think off tonight he is locked and loaded.

QuoteHartung - Young, pacey and cheap. If the sub vest is abolished and he looks to be lining up round 1, lock and load.

A bit of a cameo role tonight, he did use his pace down the wing a few times but it wasn't awe inspiring

QuoteJed Anderson - He looked the goods in the VFL game he got injured, at his price, if he is named round 1 I am locking him in. I think it will come down to one of him or Hartung

Absolutely starred. As I said if he is named round 1 locked and loaded. He might get green but he is super talented and it showed, especially that passage of play to start the 2nd quarter.

So the guys on the list from the Eagles vs Carlton game

QuoteTom Bell - He is the human wrecking ball. A huuuuuuuggggggggeeeeee midfielder and one of my fav players at the club with the way he goes about it. With Brock and Robbo gone I think he cements his spot in the 22 running through the guts. He obviously has ability but hasn't had it all click yet. At 343k I will probably prefer Monfries, but don't be surprised by a 90 average for Tom Bell. He can butcher the ball, but he also wins the hard ball and has a big motor, he can also kick goal which is handy. He has had a few broken fingers/hands the last couple of seasons which has also seen him miss games

He had a really good game tonight but he still butchered the ball. If he can clean up that disposal lock, but I still think with the way he shanks his kicks a 90 is the best I can hope for but 85 is more realistic which I don't know if it is good enough at his price (too expensive to be a stepping stone)

QuoteNick Graham- Graham has been really good at VFL level for the Blues the last couple of seasons, when he has come into the seniors it has generally been as the sub. I have always seen him as Brocks replacement, so with Brock gone, the plodder of Nick Graham should hopefully see some more game time in the 1's. I was using the Fanplanner when I made this list and it has him as DPP but he is actually just a pure mid. This has changed my thinking on him, if he was DPP I would seriously consider him at his price, but as a pure mid not so much. I would rather save same cash and go Van Berlo

Did some good stuff but is probably too pricey for a rookie option as a mid only. He is also not a certainty for the best 22 but I like the way he plays

QuoteDennis - He can probably average 60 for the season and if the sub rule is abolished that will help him out as well. I don't know if he will get games or how many, but on price he could be good for cash generation

Not a horrible game, did a couple of good things and priced 181k is not a horrible pick if he plays, but I would prefer Salem at the price and there looks to be a lot of depth in the cheap options

QuoteMenzel x2 - The older Menz is coming of nth knee reco. He is cheap, but his knees are shot, I don't know how good a pick he will be, the younger will be needed as a crumbing forward now more then ever with Carlton losing Jeffy and bringing in a spuddy Tutt as a replacement. There will be more midfield minutes up for grabs and if he looks to get some in the NAB he could be worth considering. I think he might be too expensive though

Troy didn't play tonight. He had a corkie from the intraclub so I think he was rested

QuoteKreuz - Our coach is a spud. Add in his injury history, but if our coach decides to not be a massive f-wit and play him in his natural position lock and load him

With his injury I think it puts a line through him so I won't bring him up again

QuoteHurn - He is a gun and I really like him, my issue is that he has had 2 significant injuries in the past 2 seasons which have killed a lot of coaches. I took SC off last year but if I played I had Hurn locked and loaded due to his injury score which meant he was under priced. He is under priced again, but can I trust him to not get injured and ruin my season?

Got a bit a bit of the pill and that is not the issue, it is more his body and tonight was a tick for him.

QuoteWalking Beundaid - Mr Waters can't seem to shake the injury curse, he can score well, but he appears to be injured very often. The last injury was said to be career threatening which makes me hesitant even if he is good to go round 1

Retired so a line goes through his name

QuoteSimmo - A couple of reasons I am looking at Simmo as a lock starter. First is the emergence of a couple of young guys at the Blues in Ciaran Sheehan and Dylan Buckley. Throw in Yaz and Docherty and there is a plethora of young rebounding defenders at the Blues. You also have Andrew Walker who I would prefer Carlton use up the ground but I am unsure if he will be as another rebounding defender. So what this means is I can see Simmo used on the wing where he has been so damaging in the past. If he looks to be playing mainly on the wing then he should comfortable average around the 95 mark. The Blues also have a pretty good early run of teams which should also help out Simmo

Looked good and is still locked in as my number 1 defender. I thought he looked better then the stats indicated and he also spent a bit of time through the middle which I expect

QuoteWalker/Yarran - The reason I included these two together is I expect one to play up forward. The one that gets to play off HB/wing is the one to pick, hopefully we get an idea in the NAB cup as either of these guys could turn out to be really strong POD's

Tex didn't play and is a write off but Yaz is the guy to talk about. Racked up the touches in his half back role as I expected, however he got thrown forward for a period which I didn't like. He is a star, if only he had a certain role along the half back line and his body holds up.

QuoteBryce - Bryce had his most consistent season in the league last year and appeared to have a harder edge. He had a slow first couple rounds before hitting a purple patch in the middle of the season. He could be a handy POD with his huge ceiling and I will keep my eye on him as I think he still has improvement in him

DNP

QuoteScott Selwood - The youngest Selwood had a year that was a tale of poor form and injury. He is priced at an 80 average and went 105 the two seasons before. I see him as a very handy stepping stone as long as he stays away from those tagging roles. He also has a good by for this role which I like and is priced 100k cheaper then Griff. I think a Selwood/def mid price combo is likely to outscore a Griff/basement rookie combo which is making me lean towards this

DNP and pre-season injury makes me cross his name off my list.

going to turn a blind eye to Simpsons game tonight ... Looked in horrible touch to me

A couple of rushed touches but he still seemed to be in everything during the first half. Where he played is the main thing I was looking for, he will still push to average 95 so he is locked. Add in some more ball winners and he will be getting a lot of link up play as a receiver as well which is a plus.

I forget to add this guy last night

QuoteWellingham - He is priced similarly to Adams and seems to be in pretty ishy form toward the end of the season. He could probably push towards a 90 average if he hits form and gets a good run but I doubt it. For all the hype he has never averaged over 82 so considering he is pricey and won't be a keeper he might be the first I cross off the list

Showed flashes but not enough yet. It will be intersting to see what role he plays as West Coast need to do a bit more shuffling.

Game 1 Lions vs Saints

I missed this game so if anyone who saw it can chime in that would be great.

QuoteChristensen - Body and role is the issue with this guy. New team that is now all of a sudden loaded in the midfield, if he plays his in and under role he had with the Cats he could be SC gold, it is just a question of health with his back/concussions

DNP

QuoteMembrey - So he is expected to get games at the Saints, but a young KPP guy in a potentially crappy Saints line up might mean bad news for scoring. He is coming under consideration but I want him to wow me with his NAB performances because from the small AFL sample size I don't know if he can make an impact right away. There might be a couple of other cheaper guys that can average higher.

QuoteSaad - Welcome back Ahmed, cheaper then Membrey with AFL experience. He also has a chip on his shoulder so if he is named for round 1 he could be very handy early in the season

QuoteBerger - So I was on the Leunberger bandwagon when he was coming off his achilles, however last year I was avoiding him for one reason in particular and that was the inclusion of Trent West. While West is a spud, he forced Leuenberger to play deep forward which killed his scoring, now we have Stef Martin in the team. Assuming Martin is going to force Leunberger to play forward I will be hesitant with him

QuoteGeary - The reason I have included Geary starts with his price. He is relatively cheap, which is good, however he has been prone to defensive roles which hurts his scoring. The reason I am looking at Geary goes back to his 2013 season, in particular, his start to the season. He averaged 95 over his first 5 rounds, while it is a small sample size, you only need him to score well early to become a decent stepping stone. He is probably too pricey being over 300k for this, but if he looks to be racking up possessions off HB in the preseason I might consider him

QuoteRoberton - Another guy that had a decent start the season a couple of years ago when switching over to the Saints. At mid 200k he is an interesting price and with a lack of defenders if he can push to around a 75 average (his 2013 average which included two sub games) he could be a decent stepping stone. I probably won't consider him at this point but I will keep my eye on him through the NAB

QuoteArmitage - The man has been talked about as a breakout candidate for years. He was supposed to be the Lenny/Ball replacement but never stepped up. He had injury issues last year but has demonstrated he can score well. If he looks damaging in the NAB he might be worth looking at but I don't think he can push the 110 mark so he probably is a pass. I will be looking at him for my draft team though

QuoteJack Steven - The man is a gun plain and simple. If he can have an injury free pre-season and play most of the NAB cup I will look at locking him in. He has shown the ability to hit around the 110 mark and can go big in games which is what makes him appealing

QuoteAcres - He had one of the worst performances I ever witnessed for a relatively high score. This makes me look at him as a cheap player to start with because if he can play that bad and still score decently imagine how he will score if he plays well?

QuoteJoey - After a hot start Joey finished with a whimper. Is age finally catching up? The thing is the man has still put up some huge scores but can he handle the attention? He tempts me, but I think I should stay away.

QuoteRich - I see Rich as the poor mans Wells but the same principles apply. If Wells fails I might look at Rich for the same purpose.

Game 2 Dogs vs Tigers

QuoteChris Knights - Knights is a gun, just very injury prone. At under 230k, if he is fit for round 1 he has to be considered since he has the ability to ton up on a regular basis, it is just he hasn't been on the park on a regular basis.

He flashed and did some good stuff, if he is fit at his price he might be one to consider as an expensive rookie price/cheap mid price option

QuoteLids - Pretty obvious selection here, running mid that was always a lock as a defender, he should average over 100 so unless injury strikes I am likely to be starting him

DNP

QuoteLambert - My pick of the basement rookies. I wanted him at Carlton pretty badly, he is a half forward/mid and this is something Richmond lacks in terms of quality. He should have been drafted already and if he can get a game round 1 I am locking him in. Even a 50 average at his price should be enough to get a nice little cash boost

Star and if named round 1 lock and load.

QuoteHammer - Top two in the league for hitouts to advantage, if Maric gets injured close to the start of the season lock in the Hammer at his price.

He beat Wilbur around a lot of the contests and looked really good. If Maric gets injured he is my R2 without a doubt

QuoteMinno - Does everyone remember the start of last year when Sauce was a never again and the spuddiest player going around? Yeah I do and Minno seems to be lumped into that category this season. The fact is top dollar guys since the Cox/Sandi glory days don't tend to back it up, I have brought this up time and time again with a bit of proof. So this brings me back to Minno, he has had the down year so a bounce back could be on the cards this season. He was also carrying an injury last season which saw him get dropped so he is one I am going to look at but at a similar price to Nic Nat (NN is cheaper) I will probably pass unless the midprice guys look cooked

He had some spaz moments but also did some good stuff. Gave away a lot of frees and got away with a couple. I am curious to see his SC score and his HO to advantage numbers

QuoteBoyd - We could say he is past it and the niggling injuries have probably killed his SC relevance, but he started the season fit last year and was back to his monster ways. With Griff gone the responsibility is going to fall back on Boyd and Libba which could see him push 110 again in his career.

With Libba possibly doing an ACL he might come into contention. Probably still a no but might not be a bad POD

QuoteClay Smith - From what meow mentioned he is still nowhere near ready.

DNP

QuoteBiggs - Replace SANFL with NEAFL and Port with Sydney it sums up Biggs. If he is named for the Dogs he has to be considered.

DNP

A couple to add

Bob Murphy

He looked really good. Racked up the pill and used it exceptionally. I want to get him in as a possible D3


Nick Vlastuin

Another guy that played really well. Put his body on the line and busted his ass. It was a standout game and if I go with a 300k mid price back he probably stepped to the front of the line

Liam Picken

He played a lot through the middle as an attacking option, with the injury to Libba could he continue this role? He is likely to go back to tagging but in his role he looked like another mid price back option

Just saw Vlastuin's SC score, he looked a hell of a lot better then a 46. A lot of unrewarded efforts due to the scoring system

Bob with 61 in a half is good but considering he went at 100% efficiency that will be interesting.

Picken scored very well so he has certainly thrown his name up for that mid price defender role if he continues to play through the middle

Game 1 North Vs Crows

I didn't watch this one so North and Crows fans if you can fill in how players looked that would be great. I only got glimpses and it was a Wells goal, Betts goals and Waite goal otherwise I got no idea how the game played out

QuoteWalker - Tex was huge a couple of seasons ago when the Crows were a finals side. He will be going into the season healthy after having the knee reco in 2013 but a new coach and game plan means he is a giant question mark. KPP's are always risky, but if there is one that can average over 100 it will be Tex.

QuoteZiebell - He has always been highly rated but injuries and suspension have killed him through his career. He would be a pretty big risk in hoping he can get everything right, but it will be interesting to see how he fares in the NAB where he sucked a few in to getting him last year.

QuoteRobbie Tarrant - With the pick up of Waite and the emergence of Ben Brown I don't know how Tarrant fits in with the Roos. He had an entire season that was injury effected last year and he now starts priced at under 150k. Yes he is a KPP, but if he is named round 1 you would say he has solid JS as long as his body holds up. As an expensive F7 he could be a great option since he will have good job security and earn some cash along the way.

QuoteHarper - Well he is cheap, so there is that. I think he has gone backward in his development, but if he is named early with no sub rule around he could be someone to consider

DNP

QuoteRicky Henderson - Had a brilliant run at the end of 2013 before getting injured where he looked the goods for the Crows racking up possessions while also kicking goals. He had an injury plagued season last year which means he is cheap this year. The question is where does he fit in and can he recapture form?

QuoteDanger - He was  frustrating last year since he was carrying an injury and not scoring well in patches, but we know his ability and he wins the contested ball which is SC gold. He could bounce back for a 110+ average but with the way he plays he is prone to those little niggle. I might look at him more as an upgrade for a multitude of reasons starting with the contract year. If he looks fit and firing around the byes he could be one of my first upgrades.

DNP

QuoteBrad Crouch - He was verrrrryyyyyy good when he returned from injury and at his age you would expect him to keep getting better. The Crows would want him to push Thompson out of the team and take his role which was very lucrative scoring wise but maybe not enough to consider.

QuoteA Swallow - He was coming off a season ending injury and was getting back into the groove of it last year. He is a proven guy that can hit around the 110 mark and fairly consistent in his performances which makes him the ideal mid 8 candidate. He also has a pretty handy bye which makes him even more appealing. The 500k price will need to be looked at as it is between him and a cheaper Jack Steven

DNP

QuoteWells - Cheaper then Selwood and proven to be capable of high scores. Another guy I am considering in the stepping stone role as he has a high ceiling and that means cash quickly. He would have to be fit and played some NAB for me to consider him so I will keep an eye.

QuoteVan Berlo - Cheap, verryyyyyyy cheap. If he can get his 65-70 average back it makes him worth it already considering he should have good job security.

Game 2 Suns vs Cats

QuoteHarley - One of my faves, his body lets him down but the kid is a beast (as we saw against the Cats). I am pretty sure he can average 105, my questions are on his body so it might be a wait and see approach with Harley

He played mainly through the middle and had a fair bit of the pill. I had him in and out of my F4 spot. He, like a bunch of other players, struggled with his disposal at times but he looked good and any concerns on his calf should be stamped out. We just have to see which GC players are named and involved in the KHunt case

QuoteVardy - Probably won't be ready early but he is talented relatively cheap. I don't know how Geelong plan on structuring up and when Vardy plays I don't know if can average more then 50 after a long layoff. It will hurt in terms of cash generation

DNP

QuoteBlease - Well, he can run fast. Geelong need pace so that might help him get a game. If he is named round 1 and the sub rule is abolished I will look at him, but he is selfish and doesn't work defensively. His selfishness also sees him have a high clanger rate and the fact he is also an uncontested player. It looks like a bad recipe for SC

DNP

QuoteClark - Body and mind the issue here, he can play, no doubt about it, even if he only averages 60 he will generate cash which is what we want. I want to see him play in the NAB before even looking at him though due to the past issues. The word navicular was never good when talked about with big guys and that was one of the issues Mitch had

He looked very rusty and lacked some pace compared to the last time he played. I was worried that when he would come up against some AFL standard defenders he would struggle but when he kicked his 2nd goal he showed a bit of burst which made me second guess my initial evaluation. He is one to keep an eye on, especially at his price but is no certainty to be a lock

QuoteMenzel x2 - The older Menz is coming of nth knee reco. He is cheap, but his knees are shot, I don't know how good a pick he will be, the younger will be needed as a crumbing forward now more then ever with Carlton losing Jeffy and bringing in a spuddy Tutt as a replacement. There will be more midfield minutes up for grabs and if he looks to get some in the NAB he could be worth considering. I think he might be too expensive though

DNP

QuoteTom Nicholls - I think a lot of people will look at this a bit wtf. Tom Nicholls plays a very similar game to Nic Nat and the way he plays is brilliant for SC. Now that Smith is back and the Suns have tall timber it will be a battle between Nicholls and Smith for the #1 ruck role, if Nicholls wins out I really like him for his price. He is about 10k more then Kreuz. I am pretty sure during his run in 2013 he averaged 100 if you take out his sub game.

DNP

QuoteHarbrow - The reason I have Harbrow here is the introduction of Malceski. I think this means he now moves up the ground and becomes the link run and carry player that breaks the lines along the wing. That is normally good for an 80-95 average, depending on the player and how good their ball use is. The thing you want to do is pick defenders that look to play in the middle and that is the role I think Harbrow will have, he is also reunited with his old coach in Rocket who already knows his capabilities so I expect the transition for Jarrod to be pretty seamless. He averaged 85 off HB in his last year with the Dogs so I see that as a starting point

Played mainly down back with no Lemmens in the side but he did push up through the middle at times. He had some good runs down the wing but butchered it horribly. He looked like a poor mans Chris Yarran but he is still one to keep an eye on. It is still early in the pre-season and he might be one I swap Lumumba over too if I am not impressed with him

QuoteHarry Taylor - Put up decent numbers a couple years ago but he was down on form last year and he doesn't seem settled in one position. The pickups of Stanley and Mitch Clark intrigue me because it might mean he is more settled in defense and can play loose which will equal a lot of points from intercept marks.

He looked awesome. He was marking everything and used the ball well. He was even getting a forward tag from Stanley which made it even more impressive.

QuoteGaz - The shoulder is the only real worry, if it looks good to go round 1 and he has no further setbacks then he is locked and loaded.

DNP

QuoteHallahan - Probably the 3rd option in the Wells/Rich/Hallahan trifecta.

Got a lot of the pill in the first half but his disposal was the worst of any of the GC mids. I don't know if I will go with a 300k mid and I don't know if he did enough to sway me into locking him in. I will need to see his SC scores.


Darcy Lang and Adam Saad also impressed while Bartel and Kelly spent a lot of time in the guts.

Clark put in a good chase early in the game that was a good sign for me locked at this stage

Quote from: kilbluff1985 on March 01, 2015, 07:36:02 PM
Clark put in a good chase early in the game that was a good sign for me locked at this stage

He did chase but before the injuries he would have outran the guy he was chasing. He had the commitment but that quickness of the mark looked to be gone. When he kicked the 2nd goal he looked to be able to break away which is what made me change me mind from writing him off

Clark definitely a wait and see at this stage

Quote from: Mat0369 on March 01, 2015, 07:37:25 PM

Quote from: kilbluff1985 on March 01, 2015, 07:36:02 PM
Clark put in a good chase early in the game that was a good sign for me locked at this stage

He did chase but before the injuries he would have outran the guy he was chasing. He had the commitment but that quickness of the mark looked to be gone. When he kicked the 2nd goal he looked to be able to break away which is what made me change me mind from writing him off

yeah i'm not worried about his pace that much i just wanted to make sure the motivation was there which it seems to be

Quote from: Mat0369 on February 28, 2015, 07:03:46 PM

QuoteMembrey - So he is expected to get games at the Saints, but a young KPP guy in a potentially crappy Saints line up might mean bad news for scoring. He is coming under consideration but I want him to wow me with his NAB performances because from the small AFL sample size I don't know if he can make an impact right away. There might be a couple of other cheaper guys that can average higher.

Looks like he is being groomed to play the same role as Hamil did back in 2004. His defensive efforts were great but this may mean his scores will struggle. I aslo worry about the delivery i50 so would be doubtful about picking any of our talls. 

Quote from: Mat0369 on February 28, 2015, 07:03:46 PM

QuoteSaad - Welcome back Ahmed, cheaper then Membrey with AFL experience. He also has a chip on his shoulder so if he is named for round 1 he could be very handy early in the season

Like Membrey he seemed to play a very defensive style of game. Lonie looked great though which may mean that saad wont be upgraded, but it is too early to tell at this stage.

Quote from: Mat0369 on February 28, 2015, 07:03:46 PM

QuoteGeary - The reason I have included Geary starts with his price. He is relatively cheap, which is good, however he has been prone to defensive roles which hurts his scoring. The reason I am looking at Geary goes back to his 2013 season, in particular, his start to the season. He averaged 95 over his first 5 rounds, while it is a small sample size, you only need him to score well early to become a decent stepping stone. He is probably too pricey being over 300k for this, but if he looks to be racking up possessions off HB in the preseason I might consider him

Had a ripper game, would be between him a Newnes for best on ground imo. He still played in defense but it looked he had a license to roam off his man and get to contests especially when the saints pushed forward.

Quote from: Mat0369 on February 28, 2015, 07:03:46 PM

QuoteArmitage - The man has been talked about as a breakout candidate for years. He was supposed to be the Lenny/Ball replacement but never stepped up. He had injury issues last year but has demonstrated he can score well. If he looks damaging in the NAB he might be worth looking at but I don't think he can push the 110 mark so he probably is a pass. I will be looking at him for my draft team though

Looking great! Didn't necessarily rack up the possessions but certainly looks like his will have his best season yet. That being said I still doubt he will be SC relevant.

Quote from: Mat0369 on February 28, 2015, 07:03:46 PM

QuoteJack Steven - The man is a gun plain and simple. If he can have an injury free pre-season and play most of the NAB cup I will look at locking him in. He has shown the ability to hit around the 110 mark and can go big in games which is what makes him appealing

Only played 33% game time (IIRC). I've heard that he is still nursing a stress fracture in his thigh (same one as he played through last year) but is expected to be fine for round 1. I am personally worried we're going to play him this year despite him not being 100% fit. This makes me doubt he'll be at his best this year :(

Quote from: Mat0369 on February 28, 2015, 07:03:46 PM

QuoteAcres - He had one of the worst performances I ever witnessed for a relatively high score. This makes me look at him as a cheap player to start with because if he can play that bad and still score decently imagine how he will score if he plays well?

Hardly noticed him all game to be honest...

Quote from: Mat0369 on February 28, 2015, 07:03:46 PM

QuoteJoey - After a hot start Joey finished with a whimper. Is age finally catching up? The thing is the man has still put up some huge scores but can he handle the attention? He tempts me, but I think I should stay away.

Looked really good. If he can get back to end of 2013/early 2014 form he'll be an amazing pick. Like Steven he played most of last year injured, I think it  was a stress fracture in his shin, and as such I am also worried we will play him injured again so we wont see the best of him.

Thats my opinion but the replay is already available on the saints website if you want to watch.

I'll probably watch the Lions/Saints game in an hour or so, and give a few opinions then on my boyzzzzzz

Awesome, thanks Spanner. I might have a look over the next few days when I get some time and do my own update. A few of these guys like Armitage I am looking at for my draft side

Quote from: GoLions on March 01, 2015, 10:12:46 PM
I'll probably watch the Lions/Saints game in an hour or so, and give a few opinions then on my boyzzzzzz

Thanks mate.

Also just posting this here so I can refer back to it when I get to my laptop with all my teams

(http://i.imgur.com/yucI9HH.png)

I'll update this post as I finish each quarter

1st quarter
Rich seemed to have really good awareness of players around him as he didn't have much space, particularly early in the quarter. Quick hands allowed effective possession.
Leuey won almost all of his hitouts when in the ruck, couple were to advantage. Was moving around pretty well, got the ball on the wing at one point and had a bit of a run.
Will also add Claye Beams and Adcock looked really good. Taylor started the quarter well.

2nd quarter
Rich was a bit quieter, but likely due to the fact that the ball was in our forward half most of the quarter.
Leuey wasn't as impressive that quarter. Saints utilized 3rd man up a few times which worked well for them, and Longer used his body a lot better.
Adcock was good again. Bewick was fantastic. Claye slowed down a bit, whereas Dayne was apparently racking up some possies, however I hardly noticed him. Jaden McGrath looked very good.

3rd quarter
Rich started well, then disappeared. I think he was actually taken off for about 10 minutes or so, because I just did not see him anywhere on the ground for a good part of that quarter. Came back on with about 5 minutes or so to go, and got it a few times and used it well.
Like Rich, Leuey started alright too, but then Smith rucked for the middle part of the quarter, and Saints dominated the game. Leuey came back into ruck near the end and went ok. His work once the ball hit the ground was pretty good.
Dayne Beams, what can I say. He was everywhere. Claye was good in the first half of the quarter. Bewick was amazing again. Adcock was very good, although missed an easy shot on goal. His tackling has been great though. Lewy Taylor was outstanding.

4th quarter
Rich was a bit scrappy that quarter.
Weren't a lot of ball-ups or throw-ins, so Leuey didn't have many opportunities to do anything.
Bewick was pretty good. So was Rocky. Not really much else in that quarter.

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Didn't pay too much attention to the Saints players, but Lonie looked alright. Fisher started pretty badly, you could tell he hadn't played much footy in a while haha. His second half was good though. Geary was great.

Also, the umps could not do a good throw-in to save their lives. It was ridiculous.

Smart man bouncing on my man MacMillan!

Not a bad team few guys I wouldnt start but you got to be different to win it!

Quote from: fasttrack13 on March 01, 2015, 11:32:40 PM
Smart man bouncing on my man MacMillan!

Not a bad team few guys I wouldnt start but you got to be different to win it!

It is just one I was playing around with in terms of cash in the backline earlier. I screen capped it as it was a different structure and I figured I would post it to add to my collection. 2 premos, 1 breakout, 2 mid prices and 1 rookie. I don't think it is sustainable as Saad won't get games and I don't think Edwards will either. I need to free up cash and Crouch is the guy. Looking at the scores Jamie Mac hit about 90 and Crouch killed it which is why I added them in for now. I will watch the game myself if it does come up on replay like the Lions vs Saints later in the week.


Which also reminds me, Spanner or Dave (when you finish watching), what are your thoughts on how Dylan Roberton played? The stats don't look horrible and he was decent in his first season with the Saints. He could be another handy option at his price.

Quote from: Mat0369 on March 01, 2015, 11:40:54 PM
Which also reminds me, Spanner or Dave (when you finish watching), what are your thoughts on how Dylan Roberton played? The stats don't look horrible and he was decent in his first season with the Saints. He could be another handy option at his price.

Nah, don't know what he looks like so couldn't really pay much attention to him, although I did hear the commentator pronounce his name as Robertson instead of Roberton 2 or 3 times :P

I turned on the feed on the Saints website for 5 minutes earlier, I am sure one of the commentators is Terry Wallace. That explains it all

Quote from: I'm a little tea cup on March 01, 2015, 11:24:39 PM
I'll update this post as I finish each quarter

1st quarter
Rich seemed to have really good awareness of players around him as he didn't have much space, particularly early in the quarter. Quick hands allowed effective possession.
Leuey won almost all of his hitouts when in the ruck, couple were to advantage. Was moving around pretty well, got the ball on the wing at one point and had a bit of a run.
Will also add Claye Beams and Adcock looked really good. Taylor started the quarter well.

2nd quarter
Rich was a bit quieter, but likely due to the fact that the ball was in our forward half most of the quarter.
Leuey wasn't as impressive that quarter. Saints utilized 3rd man up a few times which worked well for them, and Longer used his body a lot better.
Adcock was good again. Bewick was fantastic. Claye slowed down a bit, whereas Dayne was apparently racking up some possies, however I hardly noticed him. Jaden McGrath looked very good.

3rd quarter
Rich started well, then disappeared. I think he was actually taken off for about 10 minutes or so, because I just did not see him anywhere on the ground for a good part of that quarter. Came back on with about 5 minutes or so to go, and got it a few times and used it well.
Like Rich, Leuey started alright too, but then Smith rucked for the middle part of the quarter, and Saints dominated the game. Leuey came back into ruck near the end and went ok. His work once the ball hit the ground was pretty good.
Dayne Beams, what can I say. He was everywhere. Claye was good in the first half of the quarter. Bewick was amazing again. Adcock was very good, although missed an easy shot on goal. His tackling has been great though. Lewy Taylor was outstanding.

4th quarter
Rich was a bit scrappy that quarter.
Weren't a lot of ball-ups or throw-ins, so Leuey didn't have many opportunities to do anything.
Bewick was pretty good. So was Rocky. Not really much else in that quarter.

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Didn't pay too much attention to the Saints players, but Lonie looked alright. Fisher started pretty badly, you could tell he hadn't played much footy in a while haha. His second half was good though. Geary was great.

Also, the umps could not do a good throw-in to save their lives. It was ridiculous.

Forgot to add, Rich took most of the kick-ins, so could be some easy points there for him.

great looking side mate.

Quote from: I'm a little tea cup on March 02, 2015, 08:24:20 PM
Forgot to add, Rich took most of the kick-ins, so could be some easy points there for him.

The question with that is did he do a Heath Shaw and kick it to himself every time?

With CD scoring I am pretty sure you don't actually gain points from an effective kicking unless you kick it to yourself but if you turn it over it is negative. I had Mark McVeigh when he was returning from injury and really cheap. He was playing in defense and was on Tip Rat. He turned it over from the kick out a couple of times and his score took a massive hit and when the kickout was a  good one he received nada. Lesson learnt

Quote from: Mat0369 on March 02, 2015, 09:50:41 PM

Quote from: I'm a little tea cup on March 02, 2015, 08:24:20 PM
Forgot to add, Rich took most of the kick-ins, so could be some easy points there for him.

The question with that is did he do a Heath Shaw and kick it to himself every time?

With CD scoring I am pretty sure you don't actually gain points from an effective kicking unless you kick it to yourself but if you turn it over it is negative. I had Mark McVeigh when he was returning from injury and really cheap. He was playing in defense and was on Tip Rat. He turned it over from the kick out a couple of times and his score took a massive hit and when the kickout was a  good one he received nada. Lesson learnt

He kicked it to himself most of the time, and usually went 55+ metres

Perfect

Quote from: Mat0369 on March 01, 2015, 11:40:54 PM
Which also reminds me, Spanner or Dave (when you finish watching), what are your thoughts on how Dylan Roberton played? The stats don't look horrible and he was decent in his first season with the Saints. He could be another handy option at his price.

He did ok but not great. He put on a lot more muscle since he played in 2013, presumably to improve his defensive nature. He is fighting for a spot with Shenton and Gilbert and I think he is currently third in line (Richo likes Shenton for some reason, I'm not a fan). However, he injured himself (hamstring) and is now unlikely to be ready for round 1.

Quote from: Spanner221 on March 04, 2015, 07:23:32 PM
He did ok but not great. He put on a lot more muscle since he played in 2013, presumably to improve his defensive nature. He is fighting for a spot with Shenton and Gilbert and I think he is currently third in line (Richo likes Shenton for some reason, I'm not a fan). However, he injured himself (hamstring) and is now unlikely to be ready for round 1.

I remember he was a bit of surprise his first year with the Saints before injuries hit him last season. The injury means he is another one to cross off the list. I guess Shenton will be lining up round 1 with Gilbert also injured.

Quote from: Mat0369 on March 04, 2015, 08:13:50 PM

Quote from: Spanner221 on March 04, 2015, 07:23:32 PM
He did ok but not great. He put on a lot more muscle since he played in 2013, presumably to improve his defensive nature. He is fighting for a spot with Shenton and Gilbert and I think he is currently third in line (Richo likes Shenton for some reason, I'm not a fan). However, he injured himself (hamstring) and is now unlikely to be ready for round 1.

I remember he was a bit of surprise his first year with the Saints before injuries hit him last season. The injury means he is another one to cross off the list. I guess Shenton will be lining up round 1 with Gilbert also injured.

The saints actually released an injury update after I posted that and said that Roberton should be ready for round 1 but will miss the rest of the nab cup.

That being said Savage, Ray and Webster are all injured leaving the Saints with no ready made Half back flanker. If none of them get up for round 1 he might be a chance to take that the spot but I think Wright or Acres may be tried instead. Wouldn't cross him off completely but he's definitely in the unlikely pile.

EDIT: Looks like he's fine!!! http://www.afl.com.au/news/2015-03-05/hamstring-tweaks-spark-review

Awesome work, thanks Spanner. He is a but over 267k and with everyone desperate for cheap defenders he is one that has to come under some consideration if fit and named.

Freo vs Melb

QuoteLa Bamba - I am not his biggest fan if I am being honest. One of my mates is a Melbourne supporter and was pretty pissed when he moved over there. He went to training around the Christmas/New Years period and his words to me were 'I hate him, but he looked really good out ther'. Roos has picked him up for a reason and from what I have read he looks to be doing a lot of stoppage work. In a year where premium defenders look to be around a 90, he very well could be one, especially if he is lining up at stoppages a fair chunk of the time

I have had him at D4/D5 all pre-season. He lined up in the center square, switched to the wing and rolled off half back. He was as advertised in terms of position so I am finding it hard to swap him out as his price. He used the ball well and got a fair few uncontested possessions but I would like to keep monitoring him over the next couple of games

QuoteBarlow - He had a slow start when he returned from injury before hitting a purple patch. With Fyfe under a cloud Barlow is the cheaper accumulator of the pill. He has a poor bye but is one to monitor

You don't watch the NAB for the guns. He did roll an ankle so lets hope it isn't serious.

QuoteNewton - Was highly rated at the Power and killed the SANFL. He goes to the Dees for opportunity and if he can get a gig in that midfield you have to consider him at his price

He got a lot of the pill early and kicked a great goal from tight on the boundary. Like most of the other guys out there tonight he butchered the ball. The best player out of him and Biggs will get a spot in my side likely.

QuoteGarlett - New team, playing in a position they desperately need. Priced at about 260k so he is a stepping stone player. I expect Jeffy to try and impress early and when he has a good season he generally starts well. He averaged a ton through the first 10 rounds of 2013 and if we can get something similar he will be brilliant for cash generation. He is a confidence player so if he is looking good in the NAB he is one guy that it will translate early into the year. It is not about what he averages come seasons end with Jeff because he isn't a keeper, but if he gets you that production early you are in front of the competition with a very handy point of difference.

He lit it up at times tonight while looking disinterested at other times. It was your classic Jeffy game. I still have my eye on him as a possible early mid price option as he can score well. I likely won't have the cash for him though

QuoteSylvia - I read he turned up fat for pre-season so what a great start already. On talent, he could at least average 80, on application, I might consider Dawson ahead of him. Not good signs already for Col

DNP, was probably in the stands eating a hot dog or 5

QuoteSalem - I really like him and he seems like a Paul Roos type of player. He was subbed a lot so he could build up a tank, but when he got going he could play. His 2nd year in the system could see him boost his average and with a crop of new kids getting the vest he should bump up the average.

Used the pill beautifully when he had it in hand, he struggled to find it early but when he did use it he looked like silk other then the missed shot on goal. He needs to get better defending in the air and improving his marking. He dropped a couple of marks he should have taken with ease. It will be interesting to see how he goes the next couple of games.

QuoteHogan - The most talked about rookie last season is now looking good to go this year. He is in front in terms of development compared to your usual young guy, if he is named round 1 I would rather him over someone like Karnezis, even if the ceiling does look like a 60 early in a young key forwards career. It is about the cash generation

Lockety lock. He is the perfect f7 candidate due to his job security.

A couple of others (rookies not included)

Nate Jones

I haven't seen him in any teams all pre-season and at his price people probably see better options, but he could make an interesting POD. He racks up the touches and wins the hard ball. The negative was his disposal today which was dirt at times but not many used it cleanly for both sides.

Ibbo

DNP, but I had him in a version of my team at some point

Clancee Pearce

He has basically been my D5 since Waters went down, he looked the goods and scored well. The Duff injury could help his shake job security so it is wait and see. He is still my preffered option over Macmillian

I went to watch the North vs Crows game and it won't work. Has it been down all week?

Swans vs Lions

QuoteBuddy - I mentioned this in another thread, Buddy plays the Bombers round 1, that is his team he destroys on a routine basis, he also only plays them once, if you want to be on the roller coaster you need to be there for the big scores and his big scores and that is going to be one

DNP

QuoteChristensen - Body and role is the issue with this guy. New team that is now all of a sudden loaded in the midfield, if he plays his in and under role he had with the Cats he could be SC gold, it is just a question of health with his back/concussions

DNP

QuoteTom Mitchell - Gun. The Swans are all about team balance so it will be interesting to see if he plays and if so where. In the guts he could easily push for a 100 average, in the NEAFL, well....The other problem with Tom is his body, he has never been healthy for a full season and at 400k I don't know if it is a risk worth taking

Quietly got a fair bit of the ball in the first 3 quarters. He didn't stand out but he got his touches. He spent a lot of time through the middle and he did use the ball by hand more often then not. I will keep my eye on him in the next couple if I want to save some cash and downgrade Swan.

QuoteCraig Bird - He probably won't improve on his average, but unsubbed he averaged 90 for the season. He did seem to be tagging less then previous season but was still prone to the odd tagging job. If the Swans continue to win I would expect their players to still have a lot of points to go around, I probably won't pick him since he won't be top 6 and is too pricey to be a stepping stone in the high 400k region.

I was considering him for my draft side more then anything. He did seem to play more forward and didn't really go through the guts at all. Looking like a pass with a fit Jack, Parker, JPK and Hanners running around

QuoteBrandon Jack - The younger Jack is still working on improving his game and was a sub a fair bit when he was in the 1's last year. He has shown flashes of ability and if the Swans want to inject more pace into the team Jack could be a handy rookie priced player at some point next season, especially if the sub vest is gone

He showed a bit, made a few mistakes but it was a good outing. I don't think he will get into the 22 and would be a vest candidate if he did but at his price he is one to consider over Salem.

QuoteBerger - So I was on the Leunberger bandwagon when he was coming off his achilles, however last year I was avoiding him for one reason in particular and that was the inclusion of Trent West. While West is a spud, he forced Leuenberger to play deep forward which killed his scoring, now we have Stef Martin in the team. Assuming Martin is going to force Leunberger to play forward I will be hesitant with him

Spent a lot of time in the ruck early and put in a nice chase. He then disappeared after the 1st quarter for me with a couple of cameo appearances. I am thinking of avoiding him based on this performance because I can see him playing forward a lot with Martin in the side. The Lions did run one ruck at a time subbing off for each other for the early parts of the game but I can't see it working.

QuoteZak Jones - When I watched him play for the Swans he impressed me, with Malceski gone a spot opens up in the team, if he can grab his opportunity he is cheap enough to warrant a selection.

DNP

QuoteKJack - I <3 him. He is up there with Eddie and Waite as my fav non Carlton player, I love the way he plays and it translates into SC points. He was carrying an injury for most of the season and eventually was pushed forward with Parker ready to take over in the guts. The big number that I noticed for Jack that was down last year were his tackle numbers. He is quite possibly the best two way mid in the comp and the fact his tackle numbers were down from about half way in the year says that something was up. If he is fit and firing I see him as really underpriced for what he is capable of, the man is a machine with a huge ceiling and could be the best available POD at that price range. He has also managed to get those clunker scores out of his game and his poor is still serviceable

Holy ish! He looked great out there covering the ground well and playing the majority of the game through the middle. Parker, Jack, JPK and Hanners all got a lot of the ball and played predominantly in the middle. I brought him in for Hanners tonight although both looked good. I think the injury might have got the better of him at the back end of last season and he could easily average around 110 if he keeps going through the guts.

QuoteHanners - He had a horrid start to the season, but when Sydney turned there form around so did Hanners. From round 5 until his injury game Hanners averaged 124.4 which is just ridiculous. He then finished the season off with a 154 against the Tiges and 130 against the Crowley tag before a quiet prelim and GF. I see him as under priced and I am trying to flip a coin between Hanners and Jack

I really wish the Swans didn't have the same bye as Collingwood and Gold Coast because I would probably have a bit of mid price madness and start both Jack and Hanners. I need to make a decision closer to the season.

QuoteRich - I see Rich as the poor mans Wells but the same principles apply. If Wells fails I might look at Rich for the same purpose.

I didn't really notice him all that much. When he was on screen he generally used the ball well but I don't think I will be considering any 300k mids based on funds


Parker and JPK both got a fair bit of the ball. Beams quietly accumulated and Rocky did some good stuff.

One guy I thought I had on the list but didn't

Gary Rohan

Horrible disposal tonight showed exactly why he isn't relevant. He butchers the ball far too often

Suns vs Giants

I missed this one so for anyone that watched it feel free to chime in, I will see if I can get a replay on Monday and also see if the North vs Crows game is available on that day

QuoteTom Nicholls - I think a lot of people will look at this a bit wtf. Tom Nicholls plays a very similar game to Nic Nat and the way he plays is brilliant for SC. Now that Smith is back and the Suns have tall timber it will be a battle between Nicholls and Smith for the #1 ruck role, if Nicholls wins out I really like him for his price. He is about 10k more then Kreuz. I am pretty sure during his run in 2013 he averaged 100 if you take out his sub game.

QuoteJed Lamb - He was rated by the Swans and went to the Giants for a crack at playing a bit more which never eventuated. He is an awkward price but he can score ok when he gets a crack at it. I just don't know if he will be getting games which is the first big cross against his name

QuoteHarley - One of my faves, his body lets him down but the kid is a beast (as we saw against the Cats). I am pretty sure he can average 105, my questions are on his body so it might be a wait and see approach with Harley

QuoteJeremy Cameron - A combo of poor form and injuries really hurt Cameron, he is priced at 300k though. Many thought he would increase his 70 average from a couple of seasons ago but he went backwards. However, no Boyd, Patton with a knee, Giles gone, something tells me Cameron is going to get the majority of the delivery from a midfield that now has Ryan Griffen. He probably won't be a premium, but if we are looking at stepping stones he fits the bill. I will be keeping my eye on him come NAB cup

QuoteHarbrow - The reason I have Harbrow here is the introduction of Malceski. I think this means he now moves up the ground and becomes the link run and carry player that breaks the lines along the wing. That is normally good for an 80-95 average, depending on the player and how good their ball use is. The thing you want to do is pick defenders that look to play in the middle and that is the role I think Harbrow will have, he is also reunited with his old coach in Rocket who already knows his capabilities so I expect the transition for Jarrod to be pretty seamless. He averaged 85 off HB in his last year with the Dogs so I see that as a starting point

DNP

QuoteGaz - The shoulder is the only real worry, if it looks good to go round 1 and he has no further setbacks then he is locked and loaded.

DNP

QuoteGriff- So Griff had the monster season before flopping. There were internal problems at the club which resulted in him being traded while he also had the back injury in the pre-season. If he is fit he could be a prime bounce back candidate at the new club. You have a strong supporting midfield, a huge ruck and he is so damaging that he can ruck up the points. At his price he is tempting

QuoteHallahan - Probably the 3rd option in the Wells/Rich/Hallahan trifecta.

DNP

Bendigo Bombers vs St Kilda

I'll be honest, I drifted in and out of concentration in this game as it wasn't of the best quality but I was listening to the commentators to hear certain names called quite often

QuoteBJ - Same as Lids, throw in the fact he was averaging quite a bit early in the season last year. He seems to start well then tail off from memory the last few seasons so if I pick him it will be early to get those big scores 3 coming up

DNP

QuoteMembrey - So he is expected to get games at the Saints, but a young KPP guy in a potentially crappy Saints line up might mean bad news for scoring. He is coming under consideration but I want him to wow me with his NAB performances because from the small AFL sample size I don't know if he can make an impact right away. There might be a couple of other cheaper guys that can average higher.

I didn't really notice him although he did read the ruck really well in the forward line to snap a shot on goal

QuoteKommer - He is still recovering from injury but I loved him in my side a couple of seasons ago. He tackles and impacts plays which is SC gold, he is also pretty cheap and has a mature body with a full season of AFL experience. If fit I would prefer him over Membrey at this point

DNP

QuoteSaad - Welcome back Ahmed, cheaper then Membrey with AFL experience. He also has a chip on his shoulder so if he is named for round 1 he could be very handy early in the season

He showed some zip and got on the end of a few. It was funny watching Chappy try and chase him and Ahmed looking back before bursting away. If he gets elevated he won't be a horrible option but I would think a 40 average is about right

QuoteBelcho- Giles is the factor here, if I start Bellchambers it will likely be as a forward for ruck cover but it depends on my strategy. If there are any rookie priced guys getting games they might get a look in at ruck 3 and I can gamble with my ruck injuries and pick someone like Jeffy

DNP - but the most valuable bit of info in this game might have come out of BJ's mouth, Bellchambers is the number 1 ruck in Bomber land

QuoteGeary - The reason I have included Geary starts with his price. He is relatively cheap, which is good, however he has been prone to defensive roles which hurts his scoring. The reason I am looking at Geary goes back to his 2013 season, in particular, his start to the season. He averaged 95 over his first 5 rounds, while it is a small sample size, you only need him to score well early to become a decent stepping stone. He is probably too pricey being over 300k for this, but if he looks to be racking up possessions off HB in the preseason I might consider him

He seemed to be roaming pretty freely and picked up some touches, wasn't spectacular and still butchered the ball in true Geary fashion at times. He still might be needed at his price but I am not 100% sold on him

QuoteRoberton - Another guy that had a decent start the season a couple of years ago when switching over to the Saints. At mid 200k he is an interesting price and with a lack of defenders if he can push to around a 75 average (his 2013 average which included two sub games) he could be a decent stepping stone. I probably won't consider him at this point but I will keep my eye on him through the NAB

DNP

QuoteHeppell - He has been slowly improving and the only thing stopping him from being a super premo is his disposal. He seems like the guy that will hit the next level. A poor bye is the issue here

DNP

QuoteArmitage - The man has been talked about as a breakout candidate for years. He was supposed to be the Lenny/Ball replacement but never stepped up. He had injury issues last year but has demonstrated he can score well. If he looks damaging in the NAB he might be worth looking at but I don't think he can push the 110 mark so he probably is a pass. I will be looking at him for my draft team though

To put it simply, he wasn't a prolific ball winner in this game

QuoteJack Steven - The man is a gun plain and simple. If he can have an injury free pre-season and play most of the NAB cup I will look at locking him in. He has shown the ability to hit around the 110 mark and can go big in games which is what makes him appealing

I wish the Saints didn't have the same bye as the Swans, Pies, Suns or Dockers. He looked great, he was zipping around, his body looked fine and he was winning contested footy to go with the outside stuff. His price is way to juicy and his ceiling is huge. I know it was a C-grade team they were playing, but his stats looked alright last week as well.

QuoteJoey - After a hot start Joey finished with a whimper. Is age finally catching up? The thing is the man has still put up some huge scores but can he handle the attention? He tempts me, but I think I should stay away.

Like Steven, he looked tempting, his disposal was spot on and while he didn't win a lot of contested stuff he played along the wing/half back getting a lot of the pill. If he plays a similar role I can see him averaging pretty well just because he can accumulate and is severely under priced but I would prefer Steven at this point

QuoteAcres - He had one of the worst performances I ever witnessed for a relatively high score. This makes me look at him as a cheap player to start with because if he can play that bad and still score decently imagine how he will score if he plays well?

He made a couple of mistakes but also did a couple of good things. Probably not in contention at this point for a mid rookie spot and might lose a spot to Joey if he does play HB

Another guy that looked pretty good was Edwards. He zipped around and looked explosive. He did seem like a green vest candidate though

Port vs West Coast

I missed this one so who ever can chime in go ahead

QuoteThe Chad - Spent a lot of time forward which killed his scoring. Part of that was due to niggling early injuries, the other part of that was the emergence of Robbie Gray (well more Gray being healthy). Add in Monfries also injured for the majority of the season and a stronger midfield rotation for the Power it saw Chad spending more time away from the pill. If he was under 400k I would lean towards taking the risk but if he has a strong NAB with extended amounts of time in the middle I will have to seriously consider him

DNP

QuoteWellingham - He is priced similarly to Adams and seems to be in pretty ishy form toward the end of the season. He could probably push towards a 90 average if he hits form and gets a good run but I doubt it. For all the hype he has never averaged over 82 so considering he is pricey and won't be a keeper he might be the first I cross off the list

QuoteGus Monfries - Injury killed his season plain and simple. Priced at a 63 average (340k) and averaged 90 the previous season, he could be a very handy stepping stone although he would be a pricey one. He reminds me of JJK a couple seasons ago in terms of price

DNP

QuoteNic Nat - No Cox means he is officially the guy and will get the majority of the ruck work. He is a proven scorer but has just had injury issues the last couple of seasons. He seemed to be over it at the end of last year so a full pre-season with no hiccups means he is the lock of all locks

DNP

QuoteHurn - He is a gun and I really like him, my issue is that he has had 2 significant injuries in the past 2 seasons which have killed a lot of coaches. I took SC off last year but if I played I had Hurn locked and loaded due to his injury score which meant he was under priced. He is under priced again, but can I trust him to not get injured and ruin my season?

DNP

QuoteBoak - Another guy that keeps improving. He is Ports best player and their leader, but for SC I am not sure. Again another guy that could be a POD but someone I am looking at more in the draft game. Huge ceiling but too often he has sub 80 scores which will hurt his average.

QuoteScott Selwood - The youngest Selwood had a year that was a tale of poor form and injury. He is priced at an 80 average and went 105 the two seasons before. I see him as a very handy stepping stone as long as he stays away from those tagging roles. He also has a good by for this role which I like and is priced 100k cheaper then Griff. I think a Selwood/def mid price combo is likely to outscore a Griff/basement rookie combo which is making me lean towards this

DNP

North vs Hawks

I tried watching this but stopped paying attention pretty quickly. The skills were horrible early but I kept it on in the background

QuoteRobbie Tarrant - With the pick up of Waite and the emergence of Ben Brown I don't know how Tarrant fits in with the Roos. He had an entire season that was injury effected last year and he now starts priced at under 150k. Yes he is a KPP, but if he is named round 1 you would say he has solid JS as long as his body holds up. As an expensive F7 he could be a great option since he will have good job security and earn some cash along the way.

Played back and looked ok. He is battling for Grima's spot with Tippett. If he gets a gig his job security should be alright but scoring potential is real low

QuoteHarper - Well he is cheap, so there is that. I think he has gone backward in his development, but if he is named early with no sub rule around he could be someone to consider

DNP

QuoteBreust - There has always been more talk of him getting extra midfield time each season, if he can get his average up to 20 disposals a game he could be a good pick but he is more a guy that intrigues me that I probably won't touch until I see some proof

Played forward mostly, so I would say his scoring will remain similar to his previous season.

QuoteZiebell - He has always been highly rated but injuries and suspension have killed him through his career. He would be a pretty big risk in hoping he can get everything right, but it will be interesting to see how he fares in the NAB where he sucked a few in to getting him last year..

He got a bit of the ball but when I was paying attention I didn't really notice him. He wasn't spectacular and at his price with his history of missing games it is a pass as of now

QuoteBirch - With the introduction of Chip it means Birch could be roaming around the back half a bit more freely. He is a damaging player which teams put a hell of a lot of time into because of his disposal. He was always one of my SC faves since he racked up the pill at a good rate for a defender, with a lack of premium options he could be a cheaper premium that pays off. He put up the odd stinker last year but was fairly durable which helps when players start falling like flies

DNP

QuoteWhitecross - Simply because he is cheap as chips and a talented player that has had bad luck with his knees.

DNP

QuoteA Swallow - He was coming off a season ending injury and was getting back into the groove of it last year. He is a proven guy that can hit around the 110 mark and fairly consistent in his performances which makes him the ideal mid 8 candidate. He also has a pretty handy bye which makes him even more appealing. The 500k price will need to be looked at as it is between him and a cheaper Jack Steven

He got a lot of the ball but his use was poor. I would like to watch him again but there are other options I prefer as of right now

QuoteWells - Cheaper then Selwood and proven to be capable of high scores. Another guy I am considering in the stepping stone role as he has a high ceiling and that means cash quickly. He would have to be fit and played some NAB for me to consider him so I will keep an eye.

DNP

QuoteHartung - Young, pacey and cheap. If the sub vest is abolished and he looks to be lining up round 1, lock and load.

Came on as the sub and had an impact. This is the role I think he will have come the regular season, he will be dressed in green before coming on and using his pace.

QuoteJed Anderson - He looked the goods in the VFL game he got injured, at his price, if he is named round 1 I am locking him in. I think it will come down to one of him or Hartung

Spent a lot of time forward with the Hawks A-Graders back. You can still see he has talent but after looking at the Hawks side on paper I can't see him fitting in come round 1 unless Cyril or Puopolo get injured

Also one more

Macmillan

Barely sighted for the first 3 quarters and I still prefer Pearce over him.

MacMillan was solid IMO, 10 disposals in the second half. Fact is Pearce isn't guaranteed a game...

Cats Vs Crows

QuoteWalker - Tex was huge a couple of seasons ago when the Crows were a finals side. He will be going into the season healthy after having the knee reco in 2013 but a new coach and game plan means he is a giant question mark. KPP's are always risky, but if there is one that can average over 100 it will be Tex.

Lead strong and worked hard, still probably won't be SC relevant in the real stuff but might make a decent forward option in the draft game. He layed out big Daws in one marking contest

QuoteRicky Henderson - Had a brilliant run at the end of 2013 before getting injured where he looked the goods for the Crows racking up possessions while also kicking goals. He had an injury plagued season last year which means he is cheap this year. The question is where does he fit in and can he recapture form?

DNP

QuoteDanger - He was  frustrating last year since he was carrying an injury and not scoring well in patches, but we know his ability and he wins the contested ball which is SC gold. He could bounce back for a 110+ average but with the way he plays he is prone to those little niggle. I might look at him more as an upgrade for a multitude of reasons starting with the contract year. If he looks fit and firing around the byes he could be one of my first upgrades.

Spent a bit of time behind the footy while still showing his regular burst and bash and crash. With the way he plays as a battering ram I don't think starting with him is a good option. The Crows might have to rest him forward for his body to recover some games and it doesn't bode well for his scoring. He might be one to consider as a sideways trade come finals time if he is on a tear but I think I will pass on Paddy early.

QuoteBrad Crouch - He was verrrrryyyyyy good when he returned from injury and at his age you would expect him to keep getting better. The Crows would want him to push Thompson out of the team and take his role which was very lucrative scoring wise but maybe not enough to consider.

He got a lot of in and under stuff which can make him hard to spot. He is one I am still tempted with as a M5 but I can't find the cash.

QuoteVan Berlo - Cheap, verryyyyyyy cheap. If he can get his 65-70 average back it makes him worth it already considering he should have good job security.

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Looked pretty good. He was moving well and was using his boot to try and penetrate through the Cat defense. Turned it over a couple of times but his job security is super. I think with Biggs nursing injuries already Newton and VB might be the way to go

QuoteVardy - Probably won't be ready early but he is talented relatively cheap. I don't know how Geelong plan on structuring up and when Vardy plays I don't know if can average more then 50 after a long layoff. It will hurt in terms of cash generation

DNP

QuoteBlease - Well, he can run fast. Geelong need pace so that might help him get a game. If he is named round 1 and the sub rule is abolished I will look at him, but he is selfish and doesn't work defensively. His selfishness also sees him have a high clanger rate and the fact he is also an uncontested player. It looks like a bad recipe for SC

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QuoteClark - Body and mind the issue here, he can play, no doubt about it, even if he only averages 60 he will generate cash which is what we want. I want to see him play in the NAB before even looking at him though due to the past issues. The word navicular was never good when talked about with big guys and that was one of the issues Mitch had

This is what I wrote after their last game

QuoteHe looked very rusty and lacked some pace compared to the last time he played. I was worried that when he would come up against some AFL standard defenders he would struggle but when he kicked his 2nd goal he showed a bit of burst which made me second guess my initial evaluation. He is one to keep an eye on, especially at his price but is no certainty to be a lock

Well after tonight, lock him in and throw away the key. His first quarter he got a bit lucky with the first two goals but the 3rd and the mark showed great signs. Finished with a bag and spent time in the ruck which is another plus.

QuoteMenzel x2 - The older Menz is coming of nth knee reco. He is cheap, but his knees are shot, I don't know how good a pick he will be, the younger will be needed as a crumbing forward now more then ever with Carlton losing Jeffy and bringing in a spuddy Tutt as a replacement. There will be more midfield minutes up for grabs and if he looks to get some in the NAB he could be worth considering. I think he might be too expensive though

DNP and has sustained a hamstring injury

QuoteHarry Taylor - Put up decent numbers a couple years ago but he was down on form last year and he doesn't seem settled in one position. The pickups of Stanley and Mitch Clark intrigue me because it might mean he is more settled in defense and can play loose which will equal a lot of points from intercept marks.

He was excellent again. If Lumumba flops over the next two Dees games I might bring Harry in instead. He racked up a lot of cheap touches but he also drifted forward at times which makes him a good fantasy prospect. A defender that can snag goals while getting lots of intercept marks is worth every penny.

QuoteDarcy Lang

Was not as good as last week. He flashed and did some brilliant stuff but was quiet in comparison. Only 66% TOG might have something to do with it but he could still find a spot in my midfield

QuoteBartel

Racked it up again. I currently still prefer BJ and Buddy but Dusty could become Jimmy at the end of next week. Price is an issue though

QuoteKelly

Rested after half time but spent time in the guts again. I think I will passy on James Kelly at this point

A couple others

Cockatoo impressed again and has some brilliant agility and can make guys miss. I think one of him or Lang will get game time in round 1 so it is between those two for a spot in my midfield I think

Smedts looked good in terms of getting the ball. He still made some mistakes but at his price and with the lack of cheap defenders he has to be considered in some capacity.

Quote from: Mat0369 on March 12, 2015, 10:38:18 PM
Cockatoo impressed again and has some brilliant agility and can make guys miss. I think one of him or Lang will get game time in round 1 so it is between those two for a spot in my midfield I think

Smedts looked good in terms of getting the ball. He still made some mistakes but at his price and with the lack of cheap defenders he has to be considered in some capacity.

I've been quietly keen on Smedts for a little bit now, but still need to see a bit more of him. Geez Cockatoo could be anything

Smedts has a lot of talent but he will find it difficult to break into that team. Varcoe played a bit off HB last year and with some of the older firm looking to play through the guts he could make the spot his own which is a positive, he just has to avoid green. The way my D5/D6 look right now is Geary and Pearce. I prefer Pearce over Geary if both are named so if someone like Smedts bobs up that is an extra 115k I can pocket by downgrading Geary.

I am a bit behind on these. I missed most of our game today and stopped paying attention quickly yesterday. I'll do a write up for the Port vs Richmond game later and when I watch our game I will do a write up then

mate can I get your thoughts on Simon White? two 100+ scores from the opening NAB games

Quote from: Ricochet on March 16, 2015, 11:52:03 AM
mate can I get your thoughts on Simon White? two 100+ scores from the opening NAB games

Also another one I'm interested in and trying to keep quiet, figured Mat would know best.

He seems to have become a much better player than he once was and I think that's attributed to a role change (was a defender, playing forward these days I think, similar to The Head). Looks to be much more comfortable and impressive now.

Quote from: Mat0369 on March 12, 2015, 10:38:18 PM

QuoteVan Berlo - Cheap, verryyyyyyy cheap. If he can get his 65-70 average back it makes him worth it already considering he should have good job security.

Looked pretty good. He was moving well and was using his boot to try and penetrate through the Cat defense. Turned it over a couple of times but his job security is super. I think with Biggs nursing injuries already Newton and VB might be the way to go
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You're a Carlton man, would you not prefer Cripps to NVB?

Quote from: Ricochet on March 16, 2015, 11:52:03 AM
mate can I get your thoughts on Simon White? two 100+ scores from the opening NAB games

I missed yesterdays game but he has been playing that 3rd tall forward role I think in both games. It is a role he started to play at the back end of last season and with the inclusion of Jaksch it is one that he will look to make his own. I do think Walker is probably the ideal guy for this role so it might change when he comes into the team, but he gives you a bit of versatility even though he isn't super at ground level. I think with White it will be buyer beware due to a couple of guys missing and how that might change his role when they do come back. It wouldn't surprise me if both he and Walker play in the forward line with Levi and Hendo since Walker is a match up nightmare, but it is something that will either help him out or hurt him since he won't see as many targets.

Quote from: Nige on March 16, 2015, 12:10:21 PM
You're a Carlton man, would you not prefer Cripps to NVB?

Cripps still ins't in the best 22.

My answer from the Cripps thread

Quote from: Mat0369 on February 27, 2015, 10:31:36 PM
Looking at Carlton's midfield I still seeing him playing reserves early. Bell is ahead of him and I think Graham and Cripps are fighting for one spot based on team structure.

I just see Carlton's center line looking something like this

Simpson Gibbs Bell
Ruck Murph Judd

Curnow and Carrots also rotating through there with guys like Boekhorst, Thomas, Docherty, Yarran, Whiley (injured), Everritt, Menzel and Buckley all pinch hitting if they get games.

and another thread when asked about Cripps

Quote from: Mat0369 on February 08, 2015, 03:30:54 PM
He will probably be fighting for Brock's spot but then again, Brock was fighting for a spot in the team. I think this could be another development year for him and he will predominantly play reserves footy. He doesn't have the pace that someone like Boekhorst will bring to the 22 and he hasn't got the ability to play forward yet. You also have the more experienced (in terms of development even though they are both young) ball magnet in Graham fighting for the same spot, Whiley comes in and adds another player with a similar skill set but better defensively.

The core midfield group to me looks like this

Murph, Gibbs, Judd, Simpson, Carrots (when healthy) and Curnow

You then have these guys rotating through in Docherty, Yarran, Thomas, Bell, Buckley, Menz, Everitt (pending on his role) and maybe even Walker (his role is the big unknown)

These are the guys then all pushing for spots

Cripps, Boekhorst, Graham, Whiley and maybe Tutt, Armfield and Holman as pinch hitters.

He can't play off HB, he can't play off HF, if he is selected it has to be as a pure mid and he isn't ahead of guys like Murph, Gibbs, Judd, Carrots, Curnow and Simmo when he gets his run through there. You also probably saw how good Everitt was yesterday (at least in the first quarter and a half I watched) and Bell has a few more tricks up his sleeve at this point. Just quickly looking at the best 22

Tuohy, Jamo, Jaksch
Yarran, Rowe, Docherty
Gibbs, Murph, Simmo
Thomas, Levi, Bell
Menzel, Hendo, White
Warnock, Judd, Curnow
Carrots, Everitt, Walker (when fit), Boekhorst (sub)

If they want the extra pace you also have Buckley, Tutt and Dennis. Ellard can also play a small forward role, Whiley, Graham and Cripps are the bigger bodied guys that will come in

I will watch the 2nd NAB game properly this time and will come back and revisit this. But I am paying for the job security of Van Berlo to go with that 60-70 average.

Cheers Mat, that's really insightful.

I suppose the Blues vs Pies game sold me on Cripps over NVB. I know they like him a lot and I reckon he's playing his way into the 22.

Nevertheless, you're the Carlton fan, you'd know best.

Cheers thanks man

I don't know if Walker will be there round 1 so Cripps presents a risk. If he manages to avoid the sub vest he will have a chance to cement a spot in the 22, but he could be fools gold playing round 1 and then getting dropped round 2 if Walker returns

So I am playing around with some structures in case the worst happens with some players

No Gaz and Bellchambers

Backs: Simpson, Shaw, Newnes, Lumumba, Geary/Taylor, Pearce/200k rookie, Brown, Saad
Mids: Pendles, Selwood, Sidebottom, K Jack/Hanners, Jack Steven, Newton, Cockatoo/Lang, Heeney, Vandenberg, Steele, Lambert
Rucks: Nic Nat, Grundy, Nank
Forwards: BJ, Buddy, Dusty, Jeffy, Salem, Clark, Hogan, Lamb

at least 44k

Bellchambers available and no Gaz

Backs: Simpson, Shaw, Newnes, Lumumba, Pearce, Brown, Hamling, Saad
Mids: Pendles, Selwood, Sidebottom, K Jack/Hanners, Jack Steven, Newton, Cockatoo/Lang, Heeney, Vandenberg, Steele, Lambert
Rucks: Nic Nat, Bellcho, Nank
Forwards: BJ, Buddy, Dusty, Harley, Salem, Clark, Hogan, Lamb

At least 33k in cash

No Gaz allows me to bring in Steven since I lose the 4th round 12 bye mid premo option.

I also have another team with Bellcho in the forward line, Grundy R2 and Mason Cox R3.

So I was working when the Saints game started and then heard they were 90 points down when I went to get some dinner. However I just saw Jack Steven has had 30+ touches.

Also for Rico and Nige, I watched our game again the other night against the Pies. White was playing the high half forward role the majority of the game and was almost like another mid. All the Carlton forwards were actually playing high up the ground around the ball to try and isolate one on ones inside 50. This lead to quite a few possessions but this is a role I have been wanting Walker to play for a while now and he probably will when he gets back which will be either round 1 or 2

Also there is a Cripps thread in the Carlton subforum, I put my thoughts post game and quoted a lot of what I had above.

Thanks mate cheers for the info. Might stay away from him now. The return of Walker has put me off

Quote from: Mat0369 on March 16, 2015, 11:56:49 PM
Bellchambers available and no Gaz

Backs: Simpson, Shaw, Newnes, Lumumba, Pearce, Brown, Hamling, Saad
Mids: Pendles, Selwood, Sidebottom, K Jack/Hanners, Jack Steven, Newton, Cockatoo/Lang, Heeney, Vandenberg, Steele, Lambert
Rucks: Nic Nat, Bellcho, Nank
Forwards: BJ, Buddy, Dusty, Harley, Salem, Clark, Hogan, Lamb

At least 33k in cash

I am liking this team a lot right now. I have Smedts in for Pearce at the moment and can go BJ to say someone like Swan for cash if I really need to as well

Quote from: Mat0369 on March 16, 2015, 11:56:49 PM
Bellchambers available and no Gaz

Backs: Simpson, Shaw, Newnes, Lumumba, Pearce, Brown, Hamling, Saad
Mids: Pendles, Selwood, Sidebottom, K Jack/Hanners, Jack Steven, Newton, Cockatoo/Lang, Heeney, Vandenberg, Steele, Lambert
Rucks: Nic Nat, Bellcho, Nank
Forwards: BJ, Buddy, Dusty, Harley, Salem, Clark, Hogan, Lamb

At least 33k in cash

I am leaning towards something similar to this. I have a feeling my team will completely change when the sides are announced at 6.30 on Thursday

Quote from: Mat0369 on March 31, 2015, 10:51:49 PM
I am leaning towards something similar to this. I have a feeling my team will completely change when the sides are announced at 6.30 on Thursday

And this is looking like the legit possibility.

So here is my team as it stands

(http://i.imgur.com/M4IGxpO.png)

So starting Oxley over Saad was my F up but I was still undecided on if I was getting Goodes or not. Sidebottom has a broken thumb so I might be burning a trade already. Cripps and Dusty have disappointed already, so did Lumumba to an extent. Tomorrow will be interesting. I at least have 155k in the bank

There is a report that 4-6 weeks for Sidebottom. I also saw him on the news saying he thought it was dislocated initially but it turns out it wasn't he will go get it checked this week so the time frame is still uncertain. I am thinking a sideways trade to Sloane or pick up Lewis and some cash if he kills the Cats. Sometimes with these injuries they can slap on a glove and be good to go the next week so I am tossing up waiting it out a week or if he is named and a late withdrawal they play the Crows so a swap to Sloane is very easy

If you have cover in mids matt why not even wait till next week and save a trade unless you really need to do 2 corrective trades next week.  That way you will get to see another game from contenders.  That is what I am doing if injury turns out to be lengthy. JPK, Kennedy options or even Wines or treloar at lesser prices.

Quote from: Ringo on April 06, 2015, 11:02:45 AM
If you have cover in mids matt why not even wait till next week and save a trade unless you really need to do 2 corrective trades next week.  That way you will get to see another game from contenders.  That is what I am doing if injury turns out to be lengthy. JPK, Kennedy options or even Wines or treloar at lesser prices.

I am not sure if I will have to make any more corrective trades or if any other injuries pop up. If I trade Sidebottom it will either have to be this week or I hold him until the price changes and if he is not back then I make my move. Guys like Sloane, Beams, Fyfe and Lewis I was looking at through the off season. I also don't have Gaz so I have the cash to make that move. So it is more a waiting game and you never know, he could line up this week once he gets the scans

So score for the week was 1962 which is a horrible start to the year. I am ranked 62,901 so that further illustrates the bad start. Sidebottom is now out since he is 6-8 weeks away, Gaz looks like the guy to bring in considering his record against the Saints even though he looked sore and not himself. You think if he survived the hit out he should be good to go and he is highly capable of busting out a 180 this weekend. Fyfe, Lewis and Sloane are the others I am considering so I will monitor Gaz this week and will decide later

Similar score to myself Mat. showerty start, but it's good to know the difference between the top 80000 is only 400.

Really wouldn't get Gaz in at this point. Was pretty lucky to pull out the score he did on the weekend with a few last quarter goals when the game was in the balance. Looked a long way from his usual self, just look at that Bennell to Ablett handball late in the last quarter; heading into an open goal square and he couldn't even use his left hand to receive it. I'd much rather Fyfe, Lewis or Dangerfield at this stage.

This is what I was thinking though, as bad as Gaz was, he still almost managed to snag 3 goals in the last quarter and scored 120. I was pretty happy I passed on him until that last quarter, I probably wouldn't be bringing him in for the first 5 weeks unless I had the injury to Sidebottom, the thing is if I pass on Gaz now, I know I will have to wait until the bye. Could that be too long to wait on him? It will probably get to Friday arvo and I will hit reverse trade, wait until Saturday and go with my gut

So something new to consider and I will have a better idea after tomorrow, but Bellcho could be a late out. Now where this causes an issue is my team looks like this


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So I have Bartel in doubt with cover in Hogan, Bellchambers with an injury cloud with no cover and Sidebottom needing to go. I had originally considered Gaz for Sidebottom, but if I make that move I don't have the cash to turn Bellchambers into Leuenberger if Bellcho is a late out which means I might have to go a cheaper option if that is the plan. Plan B is if Bartel is a late out and I pick Gaz then I turn Jimmy into Berger and shift Bellcho forward. Plan C is I go a cheaper option like Lewis for Sidebottom then turn Salem into Leuenberger which I am not keen on. Plan D is I risk it and cop a potential donut in the ruck meaning I am probably another 80 points behind

Bartel out, but it looks like Bellcho will be right.

Cripps also a late out so he is gone next week for the best available. I think if I can dump Cripps for Anderson next week it might free up the cash for any other corrective trades I need. NVB is probably the front runner though

Just a stroke of bad luck for you here. Bartel is a must keep as far as I'm concerned so just use Hogan as cover. As a bombers fan I think we will do everything we can to get bellcho up so hopefully he gets up and I think you just have to sit and hope.

Which leaves Sidey to a super premo or close to it as 1 trade for the week I reckon.

Put in Gaz, made him skipper, want to hit reverse trade already

Team is up shower creek, I am looking at a couple of trades this week. Cripps is gone, he becomes NVB, if Newton gets green he will bleed cash so he becomes Darcy Lang or Jed Anderson. I will hold Miller a week and monitor Lambert. I have to live with Gaz now, I am not going to burn another trade to get him out, there is no point.

Just thinking about it, I think I have nailed most of my rookie selections.

No Goodes in the back line, already have Oxley, Saad, McIntosh and Brown
Cripps the only issue in the mids with NVB attainable, Heeney, Ellis-Yolmen, Newton, Vandenberg and Miller (only real flop)
Salem, Clark, Hogan and Lonie in the forward line all look good at the minute.

I have a couple of options to fix my rookie situation, if Newton is the sub this week, I can afford to go Newton to NVB since Cripps has only played 2. I can also go Cripps to Darcy Lang who is another option that I liked in the pre-season. I can get a cash rise out of Miller and dump him to Lambert when Lambert is on the bubble.

Obviously trading in Gaz was a massive screw up, I have to decide if I burn a 2nd trade, cut my losses (which don't seem as bad considering my rookies are alright) and hope I hit my captain selections then it doesn't look all bad. I have a bunch of guys with huge ceilings that haven't really gone bang yet, when they do it could see me back in the hunt.

I'll post the team as it stands when I am less depressed thinking about it

I just read Lambert will be out a while so scrap that

Quote from: Mat0369 on April 14, 2015, 12:03:33 AM
I just read Lambert will be out a while so scrap that

Yeh 8 weeks by the sounds

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That is my team pre trades for this round

Round 2 score is 2016 (http://smileys.emoticonsonly.com/emoticons/v/vomit-2118.gif)

Round 2 rank 69,491 (http://smileys.emoticonsonly.com/emoticons/v/vomit-2118.gif)

Overall rank 65,833 (http://smileys.emoticonsonly.com/emoticons/v/vomit-2118.gif)

Gaz out indefinitely means I have already burnt one trade getting Sidey out, I still have the 3 or 4 guys I was looking at last week, I am also considering another POD

Newton/Cripps to NVB will be my other trade since the rest of my rookies apart from Miller look solid and most of my premos look good

So talk of Pendles missing as well doesnt help

If Pendles misses it is a week and I plan on bringing in Van Berlo anyway. That means one of Heeney or Ellis-Yolmen comes off the bench. It is not ideal, but it is not trade worthy

So who goes out for NVB? Surely you arent trading Pendles out?

Quote from: Capper on April 16, 2015, 04:41:54 PM
So who goes out for NVB? Surely you arent trading Pendles out?

Hell no. My plan was if Newton got the green it was him just because at 200k plus it is too much of a risk to keep him around in terms of earning cash, if he avoids the green vest (like it looks he will) then it was Cripps who I planned a correctional trade for this week originally.

For Gaz I am contemplating the following options

Fyfe
JPK
Sloane
Lewis
KJack and like 200k


That will give me a midfield of

Pendles ???, Selwood, Hanners, Jack Steven, NVB, Ellis-Yolmen, Vandneberg, Heeney, Newton/Cripps, Miller

Hence if Pendles misses CEY or Heeney comes on

I didnt start with Pendles, i had Sidey. I went Sidey and Walters to NVB and Tex after R1

We have similar mids, only difference is I have Fyfe, VB and Sloane and you have GAJ, Pendles and Steven.

Gotta get Fyfe in surely!

Quote from: My Chumps on April 17, 2015, 03:06:35 PM
Gotta get Fyfe in surely!

but Jack? :(

I am really undecided to be honest, I will pull the trigger tomorrow depending on what happens with my NVB trade and how much I need the cash

I ended up keeping Cripps and dumping Newton  :o

I am not fielding him though

I am trade curse. 3 guys I have traded in (Gaz, NVB and Jack) and they have scored at least 40 points under what they did the previous week. Let's see if my captains curse continues and Selwood spuds up

So to continue the carnage, Bartel injured. Straight swap to either Swan or Bont makes sense, I will probably go Swan and curse him. I can also afford Gray but I might give him a few extra weeks.

I will then next week grab 2 of Krak, Tarrant and WhiteX if they are on the bubble.

Quote from: Mat0369 on April 19, 2015, 08:57:56 PM
So to continue the carnage, Bartel injured. Straight swap to either Swan or Bont makes sense, I will probably go Swan and curse him. I can also afford Gray but I might give him a few extra weeks.

I will then next week grab 2 of Krak, Tarrant and WhiteX if they are on the bubble.

Yeah I'll be looking at Tarrant, Krak, WhiteX when they hit the bubble as well. Brown and Lamb potentially to be the ones traded out.
And yeah, unsure if I should go Bartel to Gray this week or not, as you already saw in my post in the R4 trades thread :P
Swan probably the best option for you

Yeah the original reason I didn't start Gray was so I could grab him on the cheap eventually. I know if I grab Swan he is going to suck it up but I might as well bite the bullet.  I'll post a pic later with all the info.

Let the barf fest begin

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1884 this week  (http://smileys.emoticonsonly.com/emoticons/v/vomit-2118.gif)

85779 ranking for this week (http://smileys.emoticonsonly.com/emoticons/v/vomit-2118.gif)

7952 total points (http://smileys.emoticonsonly.com/emoticons/v/vomit-2118.gif)

58,195 overall (http://smileys.emoticonsonly.com/emoticons/v/vomit-2118.gif)

It is officially my worst season ever, this is probably my worst non bye score in a long time.

$258,400 in the bank and 26 trades

I will look at break evens and decide between NVB or Heeney to Krak, not sure on who to dump to to Tarrant. Leaning towards Clark.

The KJack trade was an absolute killer so far

Just thought of another possible trade idea

Dump NVB and Heeney and swing Harley into the mids for this round.

It leaves me with 532k for upgrades next week. I think I like it

Quote from: Mat0369 on April 26, 2015, 11:49:40 PM
Just thought of another possible trade idea

Dump NVB and Heeney and swing Harley into the mids for this round.

It leaves me with 532k for upgrades next week. I think I like it

Yep I like that also! 

So now with Clark and Heeney out I have to go with a new plan. I have 3 options

1. NVB and Heeney to Krak and Taz

2. NVB and Clark to Krak and Taz

3. Clark and Heeney to Krak and Taz

Clark and Heeney both have cash to make so that makes me think it has to be option 1 or 2

Heeney has the higher BE out of him and Clark so that swings it to dump Heeney

We don't know how serious or long it will take for Clark to recover so that is a swing to dump Clark

Tom Mitchell is in and McGlynn out meaning that Heeney while out with an ankle, has to compete with two very good footballers to get back into the side, swing to dump Heeney

If Heeney misses next week, it may actually be a positive as it gives me someone to loophole my C wit the Cats playing the Pies on Friday and my loophole option Tom Read, swing to dump Clark

I make 10k less dumping Clark.

To be honest, I am leaning towards getting rid of Clark, even if it is the good foot, he has a history of injuries and as a KPP could score like crap regardless.Give me your thoughts guys

Option 1.
Clark should be back next week if we believe what we hear from his coach, where as Heeney is a very diff proposition.
As stated, he will now be 'in the mix' with McGlynn, TMitch etc. AND you will be forced to hold him until the 7 has rolled out of his average.

Option 1.

I ended up pulling the trigger and keeping Clark. If he misses next week I will turn him into McGovern possibly.

Quote from: Mat0369 on January 15, 2015, 08:18:45 PM
Grundy - 30k more then Belcho  and far more talented.

Freaking hindsight

So my week was looking on the up until today. It has probably been my best week so far which is still disappointing.

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Round 5 Score 2,252

Round 5 Rank 11,365

Total score 10,204

Overall rank 41,678

24 trades $532,700 in the bank

Not sure what I will do, Salem out to a couple of players could be on the cards.

My issues are Lumumba, Newnes, KJack and Bellcho

Simpson and Jack glare out to me as 2 players that just aren't doing good enough but should come good and pump out the gun scores you paid for. Belcho is an awkward one I reckon, I never expected him to go 85+ personally so if you got him to use as ruck cover in the end at F7 then maybe just stick fat with him too. Harry O is doing enough to hold his spot at the moment and Newnes is completely unknown. 50/50 call so im just holding the trade. But enough of the boring stuff.....

you've got $532,700 in the kitty! Hoooooochie Mumma you can have some fun this week

Fyfe is an out and out superstar/beast/freak/whatever you wanna call him so I think you need to get him in but it is at a hefty cost and may not suit your byes. If you like that idea I'd go salem to fyfe swinging swanny forward. That leaves you $160k to either hold or play with, possibly Newnes to a True Premium if he is annoying you.

If you dont want to pay top dollar for Fyfe I would be trying to stretch out the cash to gain 2 premiums, potentially;
Salem > Goddard leaving $310,800 in the bank so you can go another upgrade (even though the rest haven't fully mooed)
KMAC > Premium
OR
Hogan > Danger,Shiel,Mundy using Swan dpp

Hopefully they are some good brainstorming ideas

Simmo will be fine, he is not a worry, Jack on the other hand....

The idea of Bellcho for me was a place holder until I could get an idea on who the breakout rucks are. It turns out that guy is Grundy and I am spewing I didn't start with him as I had him locked if Essendon had suspensions over the first two rounds.

Looking at the trades I have left and the rookies available I am thinking of just the one trade if any. I am just going to keep stockpiling cash. I am thinking Salem to Glenn using Swan and next week another topped out rookie to Gray and McIntosh to McKenzie if he scores well. I have no interest in guys like Danger, I think there are some better options around. From there I should have a stronghold in cash and be able to do double upgrades going into the byes. Then through the byes I will use 9 trades to hopefully finish off my team.

So assuming I do that, it should look something like this

Salem>downgrade 23

McIntosh>downgrade
Rookie>upgrade 21

upgrade
upgrade 19

upgrade
upgrade 17

downgrade
downgrade 15

That should leave me with 19 'keepers'

Then that is another 9 trades through the byes

That should allow me to do another 3 upgrades and maybe a couple of sideways correctional trades.

That will leave me 6 trades for injuries

I agree with you/understand why you want to avoid the likes of danger and co but I'm assuming that is only because you already have Jack and Steven. I personally think Danger could be a real good option and my gut feeling is his next month will be big but he will end up as my M8 so I guess it's slightly different. Salem out as your only trade seems like a winner. I reckon an upgrade would be better just so you start gaining more points

Steven was originally in my side as a stepping stone to Gaz that could become a potential keeper. As you said, with Steven and Jack already in my team there is no point in taking another low end premo. I have room for 3 upgrade targets. I want Rocky, Fyfe and Sidebottom bringing in Danger is counterproductive to the end goal. The reason I am looking at not upgrading Salem this week is because I think Gray can still drop a bit and the extra coin will set me up for the week after.

All makes perfect sense, and hopefully you gain some $$$ for the wait, which you probably will.

Harley out makes me think I should bring in Gray this week but I don't want to cull any of my rookies yet

Quote from: Mat0369 on May 05, 2015, 05:08:29 PM
Harley out makes me think I should bring in Gray this week but I don't want to cull any of my rookies yet

I think I'm gonna cull Salem, not because I think he's peaked cash wise but just because I can't stand having him on the flowering field anymore.

Quote from: My Chumps on May 05, 2015, 05:53:30 PM
I think I'm gonna cull Salem, not because I think he's peaked cash wise but just because I can't stand having him on the flowering field anymore.

Salem I was culling for Glenn so I could have the option to upgrade next week if McKenzie looks a goer in defense. I have pretty much just stuck with the one trade in Salem to Glenn to bring Swan back forward. I will do a bit of loopholing and hope Gray doesn't go huge (like 150 odd)

Well Gray went 150 odd

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The worst season ever continues.

Round 6 Score 1,961

Round 6 Rank 110,495

Total score 12,165

Overall rank 53,638

Looking at BE's Hogan and Vanders out for McKenzie and Gray

Next week McIntosh out for Rocky and I will look at another upgrade then unless Stretch or Lever look too good to pass up for cash grabs

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Round 7 Score 1,940

Round 7 rank 99,343

Total Score 14,105

Overall rank 60,575

Ended up having to trade CEY for coverage and grabbed Gray

21 trades and $660,200

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Two trades I will make are Vanders and Lonie out for Sauce and Rocky leaving me with 19 trades and $269,600

Ox is a worry since he has topped out but I would rather make the other trades

Simpson back when?

Quote from: My Chumps on May 19, 2015, 01:11:16 PM
Simpson back when?

It turns out it was this week  :P

Thanks for the 149 Simmo

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Round 8 score 2,362

Round 8 rank 190  ;D

Total score 16,467

Overall rank 37,693

My overall is still crap but my sides are looking better.

19 trades and $269,600

I have a few guys that I might look at trading out but it will depend on downgrade options.

I am waiting for tomorrow but I am thinking Taz>Amon using Krak and Bumba to Hodge. Even though Hodgey has a high BE he looks to be the number 1 defender so I would just rather get on now and be on for the ride

I am going to go through my notes on each line and see who I was right and wrong about and which of my teams I should have in fact started with over the next few weeks