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Title: McKenna trouble
Post by: kilbluff1985 on September 18, 2014, 09:24:49 PM
Barrett reporting the Suns have failed to  commit to him in 2015
Title: Re: McKenna trouble
Post by: Ringo on September 18, 2014, 09:43:20 PM
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2014-09-18/bluey-meets-the-board

"GUY MCKENNA'S tenure as Gold Coast coach is on shaky ground after a Suns board meeting called for a full review of the football department.

Chairman John Witheriff confirmed the review would be conducted immediately with results to be known within the next fortnight."

Obviusly they failed to commit him till 2015 whilst review is being considered.  Obviusly he is in some trouble especially with tjhe Suns reserve grade side winless in the NEAFL.
Title: Re: McKenna trouble
Post by: Nige on September 18, 2014, 09:54:23 PM
This is getting really interesting!
Title: Re: McKenna trouble
Post by: AaronKirk on September 18, 2014, 10:05:21 PM
He will be gone.

The word on the street here over the last few weeks is that he needed to really come up with a good explanation apart from "Ablett was injured" for the reason they missed the finals. McKenna presented to the board and from what I have heard the board at this stage believe he is not the best person to coach them to a premiership in the next 5 years (which is their minimum target).

Added on top of that is the fact that there are a whole bunch of their young star players who will be out of contract in the next 2 seasons have basically said that they will leave if McKenna is still coach. Basically this is exactly what happened at Adelaide,  a falling out between key players and the coach and the coach is sacked.





Title: Re: McKenna trouble
Post by: RaisyDaisy on September 18, 2014, 10:10:30 PM
Barrett will be up any moment now on The Footy Show
Title: Re: McKenna trouble
Post by: RaisyDaisy on September 18, 2014, 10:13:55 PM
Looks like a full review is about to be done

I think we can assume that at the end of it, Guy probably wont be around
Title: Re: McKenna trouble
Post by: Grazz on September 18, 2014, 10:16:31 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on September 18, 2014, 10:13:55 PM
Looks like a full review is about to be done

I think we can assume that at the end of it, Guy probably wont be around

Yeh its what my gut is telling me also.
Title: Re: McKenna trouble
Post by: kilbluff1985 on September 18, 2014, 10:22:59 PM
Pretty harsh

They had other injuries to key players besides Ablett after round 16
Title: Re: McKenna trouble
Post by: Ricochet on September 18, 2014, 11:13:05 PM
Bomber to GC
Title: Re: McKenna trouble
Post by: Nige on September 19, 2014, 12:11:53 AM
I save this one for special occasions.

(http://i.imgur.com/sTr546k.gif)
Title: Re: McKenna trouble
Post by: T Dog on September 19, 2014, 11:04:05 AM
Internal reviews..pffft..just rubber stamping some decisions..if they were serious, surely an outside independent view may have been sought. If it is so obvious internally why isn't sorted already?  :-\
Did hear a good remark on the radio this morning..."There will be a queue from the Gold Coast to Warrnambool of hopeful coaches wanting to work with that list"  :D
Title: Re: McKenna trouble
Post by: SydneyRox on September 19, 2014, 03:16:33 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on September 18, 2014, 11:13:05 PM
Bomber to GC

You would think locking that in is just the best outcome
Title: Re: McKenna trouble
Post by: Capper on September 19, 2014, 03:22:36 PM
a couple of things

the GC havent played for weeks and this is only coming up now??

also is the fact that GAJ hasnt signed on yet a sign that he doesnt want McKenna to be there?

If GAj doesnt sign, how do you get other players, sponsors, coaches to that club?? Dont want this to turn out like the A-League and the GC club folds
Title: Re: McKenna trouble
Post by: Capper on September 19, 2014, 03:30:53 PM
It also appears that the NRL GC team will be relocated to Brisbane and be the 2nd Brisbane based team next year.

Not good for the GC
Title: Re: McKenna trouble
Post by: nrich102 on September 19, 2014, 05:33:09 PM
Quote from: tabs on September 19, 2014, 03:30:53 PM
It also appears that the NRL GC team will be relocated to Brisbane and be the 2nd Brisbane based team next year.

Not good for the GC
Whats this you're saying?
Title: Re: McKenna trouble
Post by: Capper on September 19, 2014, 05:34:36 PM
Quote from: nrich102 on September 19, 2014, 05:33:09 PM
Quote from: tabs on September 19, 2014, 03:30:53 PM
It also appears that the NRL GC team will be relocated to Brisbane and be the 2nd Brisbane based team next year.

Not good for the GC
Whats this you're saying?
The Gold Coast Suns will be the only sports team in the area, as the other 2 have either folded or moved
Title: Re: McKenna trouble
Post by: nrich102 on September 19, 2014, 06:01:50 PM
Quote from: tabs on September 19, 2014, 05:34:36 PM
Quote from: nrich102 on September 19, 2014, 05:33:09 PM
Quote from: tabs on September 19, 2014, 03:30:53 PM
It also appears that the NRL GC team will be relocated to Brisbane and be the 2nd Brisbane based team next year.

Not good for the GC
Whats this you're saying?
The Gold Coast Suns will be the only sports team in the area, as the other 2 have either folded or moved
I can't find anything on Titans relocating??

http://www.couriermail.com.au/sport/nrl/nrl-ceo-dave-smith-says-the-gold-coast-titans-will-not-be-moved-to-suncorp-stadium/story-fniabrr8-1227018291015 (http://www.couriermail.com.au/sport/nrl/nrl-ceo-dave-smith-says-the-gold-coast-titans-will-not-be-moved-to-suncorp-stadium/story-fniabrr8-1227018291015)
Title: Re: McKenna trouble
Post by: Capper on September 19, 2014, 06:02:49 PM
its on foxsports, let me find it
Title: Re: McKenna trouble
Post by: Capper on September 19, 2014, 06:05:46 PM
http://www.foxsports.com.au/nrl/nrl-premiership/sport-confidential-parramattas-toxic-boardroom-has-poisoned-another-great-with-eric-grothe-boycotting-the-clubs-presentation-dinner/story-fn2mcuj6-1227063297766?sv=dafe7b1bbc8873334ae4a086bd31f07a

QuoteTITANS FALL, THEY GO TO BRISBANE

YOU read it here first: Gold Coast Titans will be relocated a short drive north to become the competition
Title: Re: McKenna trouble
Post by: nrich102 on September 19, 2014, 06:08:38 PM
Thats all speculation, nothing confirmed yet. Does seem sorta likely though after reading that.
Title: Re: McKenna trouble
Post by: Capper on October 01, 2014, 12:18:55 PM
reports are he is gone

Trade Radio ‏@traderadio  2m2 minutes ago
Guy McKenna has been sacked reports @GerardWhateley
Title: Re: McKenna trouble
Post by: Mailman the 2nd on October 01, 2014, 12:20:04 PM
Yup he's out. They clearly were going to do it from the start of the "review" so i don't know why they didn't just do it immediately
Title: Re: McKenna trouble
Post by: Ricochet on October 01, 2014, 12:21:23 PM
Not sure I understand his sacking hey. From an outsider it looked like he has done a great job so far
Title: Re: McKenna trouble
Post by: Rusty00 on October 01, 2014, 12:24:58 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on October 01, 2014, 12:21:23 PM
Not sure I understand his sacking hey. From an outsider it looked like he has done a great job so far
It caught me by surprise as well, but then again so did the Sanderson sacking.

I guess there's a lot that goes on inside the clubs that we don't hear much about that may make the decisions clearer.
Title: Re: McKenna trouble
Post by: Ricochet on October 01, 2014, 12:26:25 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on September 18, 2014, 11:13:05 PM
Bomber to GC
Title: Re: McKenna trouble
Post by: Justin Bieber on October 01, 2014, 12:51:25 PM
We need you Bomber!!
Title: Re: McKenna trouble
Post by: Capper on October 01, 2014, 12:58:01 PM
Big call if Bomber is to go up there. I think his kids still being at school will see him not go up
Title: Re: McKenna trouble
Post by: kilbluff1985 on October 01, 2014, 01:07:47 PM
i wouldn't mind if he went up there wouldn't hold any grudges at all i just don't think he will, i will be surprised if he does anyway
Title: Re: McKenna trouble
Post by: T Dog on October 01, 2014, 01:11:34 PM
Does Gaz get on with Bomber?
Title: Re: McKenna trouble
Post by: Capper on October 01, 2014, 01:19:18 PM
Quote from: T Dog on October 01, 2014, 01:11:34 PM
Does Gaz get on with Bomber?
Good call!!! wouldnt think so
Title: Re: McKenna trouble
Post by: Spinking on October 01, 2014, 01:20:20 PM
Bomber commented that if he was to coach a Senior Team the GC would be the team to do it with...

http://www.foxsports.com.au/afl/afl-premiership/gold-coast-sacks-guy-mckenna-as-speculation-mounts-club-will-make-play-for-essendons-mark-thompson/story-e6frf3e3-1227075696214

Sounds like it is a very likely possibility to me...
Title: Re: McKenna trouble
Post by: Ricochet on October 01, 2014, 01:30:25 PM
Quote from: tabs on October 01, 2014, 01:19:18 PM
Quote from: T Dog on October 01, 2014, 01:11:34 PM
Does Gaz get on with Bomber?
Good call!!! wouldnt think so
Why so?
Title: Re: McKenna trouble
Post by: ossie85 on October 01, 2014, 01:55:41 PM

Ablett and Thompson apparentally didn't talk to each other for 5 months in 2010...

... some think if Ablett new that Thompson wasn't going to be at the Cats, he may have stayed with Geelong....

... but who knows.
Title: Re: McKenna trouble
Post by: Justin Bieber on October 01, 2014, 01:56:52 PM
Bombers probably like flower it, lets win a premiership.
Title: Re: McKenna trouble
Post by: Ricochet on October 01, 2014, 01:57:21 PM
Ah ok, fair enough. Hadn't heard that one
Title: Re: McKenna trouble
Post by: Nige on October 01, 2014, 02:01:10 PM
Bomber at the Suns would be epic as flower.  8)

Sad for McKenna though.  :(
Title: Re: McKenna trouble
Post by: T Dog on October 01, 2014, 02:27:20 PM
Quote from: ossie85 on October 01, 2014, 01:55:41 PM

Ablett and Thompson apparentally didn't talk to each other for 5 months in 2010...

... some think if Ablett new that Thompson wasn't going to be at the Cats, he may have stayed with Geelong....

... but who knows.

probably when Gaz wouldn't  decide / announce his next move. :-\
Title: Re: McKenna trouble
Post by: Nige on October 01, 2014, 02:38:57 PM
What a terrible press conference.  :-X
Title: Re: McKenna trouble
Post by: Master Q on October 01, 2014, 02:50:00 PM
Hopefully he gets an assistant job somewhere. He's a great guy.
Title: Re: McKenna trouble
Post by: Vinny on October 01, 2014, 02:52:29 PM
Yeah I feel sorry for him, seems like an awesome dude and I didn't think he did that badly. I thought he did well to be honest, I mean they lost the best player in the comp and who is also their skipper for half the season and struggled but the team is super young too and were on the verge of playing finals. Must have been something else going on..

Hope Bomber comes in if anyone, would be great for the Suns.
Title: Re: McKenna trouble
Post by: Mat0369 on October 01, 2014, 02:57:58 PM
A couple of the other names I heard thrown around on the radio were Ratten, Bolton and Mark Williams and Leigh Tudor
Title: Re: McKenna trouble
Post by: Ricochet on October 01, 2014, 03:07:06 PM
Jeez how many times did he mention Guys's "extraordinary contribution" to the club
Title: Re: McKenna trouble
Post by: Vinny on October 01, 2014, 03:08:24 PM
Anyone got a link for the press conference?
Title: Re: McKenna trouble
Post by: Ricochet on October 01, 2014, 03:08:58 PM
Quote from: Vinny on October 01, 2014, 03:08:24 PM
Anyone got a link for the press conference?
http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/gold-coast-sacks-guy-mckenna-as-speculation-mounts-club-will-make-play-for-essendons-mark-thompson/story-fni5f7ka-1227075696214

It'll make you cringe
Title: Re: McKenna trouble
Post by: Vinny on October 01, 2014, 03:15:57 PM
Thanks man, it didn't work but there is a live-stream and Guy is talking now.
Title: Re: McKenna trouble
Post by: Ricochet on October 01, 2014, 03:18:22 PM
Ah shower must have updated it. I'll see if I can find another
Title: Re: McKenna trouble
Post by: Vinny on October 01, 2014, 03:23:10 PM
Cheers Ric.



Man, he seems upset. Looks like he had a great bond with the boys. I thought he was gonna tear up when they mentioned a text from one of the players regarding his sacking. :(
Title: Re: McKenna trouble
Post by: Ricochet on October 01, 2014, 03:26:12 PM
yeh same. I guess he's been with them right there from the beginning. Even picked some up from school and shower like that
Title: Re: McKenna trouble
Post by: Mat0369 on October 01, 2014, 03:27:18 PM
I just heard a bit of the Rush Hour as I was driving home from getting some petrol. Garry Lyon is on and he has just relayed a whole lot of info that has either come from Hutchy or Purple

Bomber wants the job and he will choose GC over Essendon. He will take Sando with him as an assistant. The possible hurdle was his relationship with Gaz which was horrible at the end of his Geelong tenure. He and Gaz caught up on Brownlow night and had a chat to deal through everything. All is good and now comfortable between the two. The only other guy they like is Bolton from the Hawks
Title: Re: McKenna trouble
Post by: Vinny on October 01, 2014, 03:29:34 PM
That would be flowering awesome.

Bomber and Sando tag team! 8)
Title: Re: McKenna trouble
Post by: Toga on October 01, 2014, 03:39:01 PM
Interesting decision as I thought McKenna had done a reasonable job to this point, although GC's run home was pretty eye-opening I guess.

Bomber and Sando would be a great coaching panel to take this team to the next level.
Title: Re: McKenna trouble
Post by: Ricochet on October 01, 2014, 04:07:58 PM
Wow Jared Brennan goes whack

"So I just heard bluey got the flick....damn, a year late!!! In all seriousness though, feel for the players that didn't get the chance to develop and excel because of his stubbornness and one minded ways."
Title: Re: McKenna trouble
Post by: Toga on October 01, 2014, 04:08:53 PM
Well then...
Title: Re: McKenna trouble
Post by: Mailman the 2nd on October 01, 2014, 04:12:52 PM
Well Jared Brennan would know a lot about not excelling
Title: Re: McKenna trouble
Post by: Ricochet on October 01, 2014, 04:14:07 PM
Yeh and atleast McKenna kept his class
Title: Re: McKenna trouble
Post by: Nige on October 01, 2014, 04:14:14 PM
Oh Jared Brennan...
Title: Re: McKenna trouble
Post by: Justin Bieber on October 01, 2014, 04:46:28 PM
Jared sounds on the money though.
Title: Re: McKenna trouble
Post by: ossie85 on October 01, 2014, 04:47:40 PM
Quote from: whatlez on October 01, 2014, 04:46:28 PM
Jared sounds on the money though.


Gotta say, I know he had top talent, but the amount of young superstars they have is frightening. Hard to argue they haven't developed, when you compare them against the young talent of say Melbourne for instance.
Title: Re: McKenna trouble
Post by: Justin Bieber on October 01, 2014, 04:49:14 PM
Quote from: ossie85 on October 01, 2014, 04:47:40 PM
Quote from: whatlez on October 01, 2014, 04:46:28 PM
Jared sounds on the money though.


Gotta say, I know he had top talent, but the amount of young superstars they have is frightening. Hard to argue they haven't developed, when you compare them against the young talent of say Melbourne for instance.
GWS talent are developing faster/better. We are lucky we have Gary. Without Gary, the GC would be a very ordinary outfit. Don't want to say it.
Title: Re: McKenna trouble
Post by: ossie85 on October 01, 2014, 04:59:04 PM
Quote from: whatlez on October 01, 2014, 04:49:14 PM
Quote from: ossie85 on October 01, 2014, 04:47:40 PM
Quote from: whatlez on October 01, 2014, 04:46:28 PM
Jared sounds on the money though.


Gotta say, I know he had top talent, but the amount of young superstars they have is frightening. Hard to argue they haven't developed, when you compare them against the young talent of say Melbourne for instance.
GWS talent are developing faster/better. We are lucky we have Gary. Without Gary, the GC would be a very ordinary outfit. Don't want to say it.

It's not the Gold Coast's fault that the Giants spent all there money on Tom Scully. Plus they have a player called Callan Ward who ain't too bad.

The Suns had more wins at the same point in time. I'm not so sure to say the likes of Swallow, O'Meara, Bennell and co. have developed slower than Prestia, Coniglio and Whitfield...
Title: Re: McKenna trouble
Post by: JBs-Hawks on October 01, 2014, 05:02:02 PM
Think the major factor here is the lack of depth Mckenna has compiled. Sure their top end guns are good but their reserves team were woeful not winning a game in the Neafl where  gws and sydney were 4 teams.
Title: Re: McKenna trouble
Post by: Ringo on October 01, 2014, 05:10:21 PM
Think that was the deciding factor JB with the Reserves not winning a match, highlighting the lack of depth.

Lez Do you think Suns will make a play for Sauce to return home being a Southport Boy.
Title: Re: McKenna trouble
Post by: Master Q on October 01, 2014, 05:30:35 PM
Quote from: ossie85 on October 01, 2014, 04:59:04 PM
Quote from: whatlez on October 01, 2014, 04:49:14 PM
Quote from: ossie85 on October 01, 2014, 04:47:40 PM
Quote from: whatlez on October 01, 2014, 04:46:28 PM
Jared sounds on the money though.


Gotta say, I know he had top talent, but the amount of young superstars they have is frightening. Hard to argue they haven't developed, when you compare them against the young talent of say Melbourne for instance.
GWS talent are developing faster/better. We are lucky we have Gary. Without Gary, the GC would be a very ordinary outfit. Don't want to say it.

It's not the Gold Coast's fault that the Giants spent all there money on Tom Scully. Plus they have a player called Callan Ward who ain't too bad.

The Suns had more wins at the same point in time. I'm not so sure to say the likes of Swallow, O'Meara, Bennell and co. have developed slower than Prestia, Coniglio and Whitfield...
Prestia plays for GC. But anyway, I think they're pretty even. GWS have Toby Greene, Devon Smith, Cameron...
Title: Re: McKenna trouble
Post by: ossie85 on October 01, 2014, 05:35:57 PM

whoops, I meant Treloar :P No idea how I said Prestia
Title: Re: McKenna trouble
Post by: AaronKirk on October 01, 2014, 07:23:03 PM
Basically agree with what Mat said but have tad more closer information about the suns.

Bomber will coach the suns in 2015.

Bomber Thompson and Gary Ablett had a long and meaningful private conversation burying the hatchet during brownlow night.

Lock in Brenton Sanderson being Bomber's assistant.
Title: Re: McKenna trouble
Post by: kilbluff1985 on October 01, 2014, 08:29:49 PM
btw remember on Brownlow night Ablett said he would be surprised if he got sacked and that he (Ablett) was meeting with the board after Grand Final weekend so would be interesting to know what happened
Title: Re: McKenna trouble
Post by: Mat0369 on October 01, 2014, 11:28:48 PM
Campbell Brown was on the Rush Hour and they asked him about it. He said he wasn't surprised by the move and agrees with it. He said while McKenna has a lot of strengths including getting games into the right core group that will take them to a premiership, he also said that he had some glaring weaknesses he had not addressed. The example he gave was Clarko, he said you always knew where you stood with Clarko and he knew how to make the hard calls. The players have given the feedback to McKenna multiple times that he has to be harder on the group and stop sending mixed messages. He would tell players they were being rested when in fact they were being dropped. Brown said this was bad for the young group as it effected their psyche as they were trying to establish themselves and figuring where they were going wrong, with a lack of direct honest feedback and too much sugarcoating this hurt the group. So in the long run it looks like the right move. He said it had to be done now because they will play finals next year and the move would be far to difficult to make then. He said finals will be a lock next season and even Bill Brownless could get that squad into finals next season with the amount of talent they have