WXV Trade Talk

Started by meow meow, July 13, 2015, 07:35:23 PM

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DazBurg

Quote from: Jayman on November 01, 2015, 07:19:35 PM
5-way deal? Kinda makes the trade voting process interesting this week... Already got 6 accepted votes basically, even though to me, it looks extremely unfair for at least 2 teams involved.

actually that is a good point

hey guys lets do like a 13 team trade then it cannot be negged ;)

JBs-Hawks

And they have the admin vote :P

My Chumps

Steal for Toronto wowee.

DazBurg

Quote from: JBs-Hawks on November 01, 2015, 07:35:00 PM
And they have the admin vote :P

smart smart move indeed by these lot....worked out a way to bypass the voting system regardless of weather it is good or not ;)

Holz

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Quote from: DazBurg on November 01, 2015, 08:02:36 PM
Quote from: JBs-Hawks on November 01, 2015, 07:35:00 PM
And they have the admin vote :P

smart smart move indeed by these lot....worked out a way to bypass the voting system regardless of weather it is good or not ;)

purp isnt bias

Plus its not bypassing the sysem. I have had 15 coaches accept and my deal rejected.

Its because people are neg happy we need to mix deals. Its mainly as I dont trust any of my deals passing unless people think I lose.




Jroo

Anyone have any defenders for sale? Pick 19/PSD1 up for trade.

These guys also on the table

Defenders: Jonathan Marsh, Josh Prudden
Midfielders: Brendon Goddard, Chris Masten, Reece Conca, Daniel Wells, Kamdyn McIntosh, Cameron Ellis-Yolmen,Mark Whiley
Forwards: Maverick Weller, Adam Cooney, James Sicily, Liam McBean, James Rose*, Jesse Palmer*, Paul Stewart

RaisyDaisy

Quote from: RaisyDaisy on November 01, 2015, 07:28:02 PM
Toronto give: K. Jack + A. Everitt + S. Biggs + N31
Toronto get: J. Ziebell + N5

New Delhi give: J. Elliott
New Delhi get: K. Jack

Buenos Aires give: J. Ziebell + N3
Buenos Aires get: J. Elliott + L.Hansen + A. Everitt + S. Biggs + N31

Rio de Janeiro give: N5 + N43
Rio de Janeiro get: S. Thompson + R. Murphy + N. van Berlo + J. Walker + N32

Dublin give: S. Thompson + R. Murphy + M. Walters + L.Hansen + N. van Berlo + J. Walker + N32
Dublin get: C. Yarran + B. Dale + N3

Berlin give: C. Yarran + B. Dale
Berlin get: M. Walters + N43

Finding this quite challenging to asses. I feel like some teams are completely fine and fair in terms of what they are giving and what they are getting (Eg Berlin) but then some are not (Eg Holz getting raped IMO)

This is ugly to asses. Might need some convincing or explaining from those involved as to why and how this has come apart and benefits all teams

Purple 77

Holz came to me and said "Walters + Pick 43 FOR Yarran + Dale?"

I'm like, sure, that sounds good!

I didn't play any part in the 6 way. But I understand that Holz wanted it all included, maybe because he wouldn't want one aspect of the trade to be negged, and other aspect of the trade to be accepted. All or nothing kind of thing, I guess.

Ricochet

Think Holz's bit needs to be looked at in parts RD.

Originally this trade got negged.
Rio de Janeiro trade: Pick 5 + Pick 43
Dublin trade: Scott Thompson, Nathan van Berlo, Steve Johnson + Pick 32

Purps said it needed it a longer term option thrown in to pass. Holz threw in Walker. (and also swapped SJ with Murphy)

Rio de Janeiro trade: Pick 5 + N43
Dublin trade: Scott Thompson, Nathan van Berlo, Rob Murphy + Walker + Pick 32




He has then given N5 + Hansen for N3




Then leaves

Dublin give: M. Walters + N43
Dublin get: C. Yarran + B. Dale

JBs-Hawks

Quote from: RaisyDaisy on November 02, 2015, 12:58:52 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on November 01, 2015, 07:28:02 PM
Toronto give: K. Jack + A. Everitt + S. Biggs + N31
Toronto get: J. Ziebell + N5

New Delhi give: J. Elliott
New Delhi get: K. Jack

Buenos Aires give: J. Ziebell + N3
Buenos Aires get: J. Elliott + L.Hansen + A. Everitt + S. Biggs + N31

Rio de Janeiro give: N5 + N43
Rio de Janeiro get: S. Thompson + R. Murphy + N. van Berlo + J. Walker + N32

Dublin give: S. Thompson + R. Murphy + M. Walters + L.Hansen + N. van Berlo + J. Walker + N32
Dublin get: C. Yarran + B. Dale + N3

Berlin give: C. Yarran + B. Dale
Berlin get: M. Walters + N43

Finding this quite challenging to asses. I feel like some teams are completely fine and fair in terms of what they are giving and what they are getting (Eg Berlin) but then some are not (Eg Holz getting raped IMO)

This is ugly to asses. Might need some convincing or explaining from those involved as to why and how this has come apart and benefits all teams

Well you negged it when it was SJ +Thompson for 5. So he clearly had to add something  so he added Hansen  and also got a substantially better pick  too.

meow meow

Walters = Yarran
32 = Dale

Value the rest as picks

Thommo = 20
Bob = 16
NVB = 45
Hansen = 20
Walker = 40

Pick 3 for picks 16, 20, 20, 40, 45

Holz isn't losing

RaisyDaisy

Appreciate the breakdown and concepts lads

Looks like a neg free week then (From NY anyway)

kilbluff1985


Holz

Quote from: kilbluff1985 on November 02, 2015, 01:29:08 PM
poor Holz

I do think I have to lose trades for them to pass. but I can lose trades and still improve my team. Ill manage.

it will get to the point where Dublin collapses though unless i draft perfectly.




RaisyDaisy

@Rico - I don't asses trades like that, in terms of looking at last weeks deal. When I asses trades, it's how I put them - who are you trading and who are you getting - the other teams involved don't mean anything

Meow - when you say Pick 3 for those other picks again I probably don't totally agree because valuing established guns as picks probably doesn't work completely

The way I see it, Walters and 32 for Yarran and Dale is fair (like Meow said) and how I looked at it

Thompson, Murphy, Hansen, Walker and Van Berlo for Pick 3 is what I was surprised about initially