Is Travis Cloke the biggest potato in the AFL?

Started by Vinny, April 27, 2014, 10:48:13 PM

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Mailman the 2nd

Obviously he isn't the worst player, people aren't arguing that.

But like Scully, Franklin and the like, he's paid a lot of money for what he does and hence should be questioned if he can only manage 10 goals in 9 rounds of football.

Having a bad year is an understatement when fans and the media try to hype him as the strongest and best Full forward in the game, which he really isn't.

Don't forget you were pulling out selective evidence all the same as us Oss.

Premierships won by Travis Cloke: 1


Preimerships won by Mitch Morton: 1 ;)

ossie85

Quote from: Mailman the 2nd on May 24, 2014, 09:11:56 PM
Obviously he isn't the worst player, people aren't arguing that.

But like Scully, Franklin and the like, he's paid a lot of money for what he does and hence should be questioned if he can only manage 10 goals in 9 rounds of football.

Having a bad year is an understatement when fans and the media try to hype him as the strongest and best Full forward in the game, which he really isn't.

Don't forget you were pulling out selective evidence all the same as us Oss.

Premierships won by Travis Cloke: 1


Preimerships won by Mitch Morton: 1 ;)

Mitch Morton is a bnf winner, dual all aus, best contested mark in comp 5 years running,  proven goal kicker also :p

not arguing bad form at the moment

Nige

Quote from: Mailman the 2nd on May 24, 2014, 09:11:56 PM
Obviously he isn't the worst player, people aren't arguing that.
I'm pretty sure Vin is, hence the thread and all.  :P

Mailman the 2nd

Quote from: ossie85 on May 24, 2014, 09:15:03 PM
Quote from: Mailman the 2nd on May 24, 2014, 09:11:56 PM
Obviously he isn't the worst player, people aren't arguing that.

But like Scully, Franklin and the like, he's paid a lot of money for what he does and hence should be questioned if he can only manage 10 goals in 9 rounds of football.

Having a bad year is an understatement when fans and the media try to hype him as the strongest and best Full forward in the game, which he really isn't.

Don't forget you were pulling out selective evidence all the same as us Oss.

Premierships won by Travis Cloke: 1


Preimerships won by Mitch Morton: 1 ;)

Mitch Morton is a bnf winner, dual all aus, best contested mark in comp 5 years running,  proven goal kicker also :p

not arguing bad form at the moment

1 time Michael Roach medal averaged 0.4 goals less per game than Cloke over his career ;)

kilbluff1985

Quote from: NigeyS on May 24, 2014, 09:15:31 PM
Quote from: Mailman the 2nd on May 24, 2014, 09:11:56 PM
Obviously he isn't the worst player, people aren't arguing that.
I'm pretty sure Vin is, hence the thread and all.  :P

Rofl was gonna post same thing

Vinny

Haha well he is obviously is the worst in the AFL. :P


Toga

I would expect more from the key forward target in a top 8 team.

ossie85

Quote from: Toga on May 25, 2014, 12:45:47 AM
I would expect more from the key forward target in a top 8 team.

As do I for 2014

But the previous 5 years? He's been elite

kilbluff1985

Quote from: ossie85 on May 25, 2014, 07:33:54 AM
Quote from: Toga on May 25, 2014, 12:45:47 AM
I would expect more from the key forward target in a top 8 team.

As do I for 2014

But the previous 5 years? He's been elite

being elite for last 5 years doesn't win you any games this year if you don't perform imo he is costing them games the team has no confidence in him

ossie85

Quote from: kilbluff1985 on May 25, 2014, 07:47:05 AM
Quote from: ossie85 on May 25, 2014, 07:33:54 AM
Quote from: Toga on May 25, 2014, 12:45:47 AM
I would expect more from the key forward target in a top 8 team.

As do I for 2014

But the previous 5 years? He's been elite

being elite for last 5 years doesn't win you any games this year if you don't perform imo he is costing them games the team has no confidence in him

he is costing us I agree,  but if the team didn't have confidence in him he'd be dropped

Vinny

They aren't going to drop him, you can't have your highest paid player playing 2s.

Toga

Quote from: ossie85 on May 25, 2014, 07:33:54 AM
Quote from: Toga on May 25, 2014, 12:45:47 AM
I would expect more from the key forward target in a top 8 team.

As do I for 2014

But the previous 5 years? He's been elite

Yeah of course, when he's good he is dominant, but talking about this year he's been poor.

Vinny

He has still been overrated.

In his "elite" years, he wasn't very accurate. He was getting perfect delivery from pretty much the best midfield in the competition at the time. If he was in a mediocre side, he'd do flower all.

Nige

Your delusional hatred is getting a bit much Vin...

Vinny