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Reasons for one or the other:
Cash - Laird $564K v Z Williams $458K save 106K
Score history - L4Y 105.1,96.8,108.3,100.2 v 85.4,101.6,-,93.9 Laird more consistent
Laird is my first choice with Williams with the go to if I need to find cash. Williams has more potential upside, assuming playing mid at Carlton.
Jy Simpkin v Cripps v Walsh for M5
Simpkin has shown he is capable of scores over 120+ is 22 yrs old and ready to step up to prem mid status. (110+ EOY avg). Faded away in 2nd half of the year. Another preseason and primed to improve again.
Cripps is underpriced for what he is capable of and maybe with Williams and Walsh to help he might be more consistent. Walsh is a great footballer still 20yrs of age. More upside potential with Simpkin is my thought. What are your thoughts?
Simpkin not a top SC player IMO and also plays for NM (big handicap). Have tossed up the other two and leant with Cripps due to ceiling and slight cash saving
Quote from: crowls on January 06, 2021, 06:20:19 PM
Reasons for one or the other:
Cash - Laird $564K v Z Williams $458K save 106K
Score history - L4Y 105.1,96.8,108.3,100.2 v 85.4,101.6,-,93.9 Laird more consistent
Laird is my first choice with Williams with the go to if I need to find cash. Williams has more potential upside, assuming playing mid at Carlton.
I'm likely picking both. I'd go Laird in preference if I was only picking one.
Quote from: crowls on January 06, 2021, 06:33:37 PM
Jy Simpkin v Cripps v Walsh for M5
Simpkin has shown he is capable of scores over 120+ is 22 yrs old and ready to step up to prem mid status. (110+ EOY avg). Faded away in 2nd half of the year. Another preseason and primed to improve again.
Cripps is underpriced for what he is capable of and maybe with Williams and Walsh to help he might be more consistent. Walsh is a great footballer still 20yrs of age. More upside potential with Simpkin is my thought. What are your thoughts?
None of them. I'd go Rowell or Taranto instead.
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J Caldwell V J Hately
This one is doing my head in Both ave 64 last season. One played 6 games, one played 9, Any help here would be greatly appreciated. Purely on scoring alone please. Cheers pete.
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Neither
Agree. Hately, if you have to as better chance of some sort of increase as No 3 or 4 midfielder. Caldwell most likely behind Merrett, Shiel, McGrath, Langford, maybe Heppell
Hately, based on getting more game and mid time. Personally I would rather see heppel at BF and Caldwell in the middle for Essendon
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Thanks guys
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Close in price, but which is the best option ??
I Heeney $454,500 V J De Goey $435,200
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Quote from: Sabretooth Tigers on January 28, 2021, 01:22:46 PM
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Close in price, but which is the best option ??
I Heeney $454,500 V J De Goey $435,200
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Didn’t realise De Goey was so cheap!!!
Heeney seems like the safer option though and definitely has the runs on the board!
DeGoey is an impact player but not good for SC as he is too inconsistent.
De Goey is the new Stringer. Hard to see him being a consistent scorer.
B.Cunnington vs D.Prestia
Mid: Neale, Mitchell, Fyfe, Adams, Cripps, ????, W.Phillips, Pedlar (Collier-Dawkins, Durdin, Downie)
Fwd: Marshall, D.Martin, ????, Perkins, F.Macrae, Cockatoo, (Rowe, Spicer)
Danger & T.Powell
Vs
Bolton & Heppell
I would go Danger & T.Powell
Sidebottom v Dusty
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Sidebottom v Dusty
Dusty for me.
Thanks mate. I have Dusty, but was thinking Sidebottom, as he may get more mid time with Treloar gone.
Steele or Clarrie
Oliver
Grundy and mid rookie
Vs
Cripps/Rowell and Preuss?
Or wait and see which rookies play then decide, much prefer Grundy and a rookie to set and forget my rucks alongside Gawn, but we shall see!
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Grundy and mid rookie
Vs
Cripps/Rowell and Preuss?
Or wait and see which rookies play then decide, much prefer Grundy and a rookie to set and forget my rucks alongside Gawn, but we shall see!
Probably wait and see on rookies and more than likely will depend price on rookies as some who will play will be $180k plus.
Also remember Grundy and Gawn share the same bye so need to factor that in. Rd 14 bye is a little bit problematic given number of prems with that bye.
Which one of Tom Stewart, Ridley or Mills would you pick to replace Whitfield if need be due to his injury.
I have Stewart in my team so he is the guy. Next I would have Ridley and then Mills.
Dunkley or Dangerfield at F2?
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Which one of Tom Stewart, Ridley or Mills would you pick to replace Whitfield if need be due to his injury.
Mills has the Rd. 14 bye so I 'd go Stewart over Ridley by a smidgen, unless Ridley suited my bye set up. No much in it.
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Dunkley or Dangerfield at F2?
Dangerfield, subject to confirmed fitness. Groin or OSP? He is a concern to start and a concern to play the season out for me.
Grundy/Stewart/Atkins
VS
Preuss/Witherden/Macrae
Option ones gives me 2 guaranteed top premiums where as option 2 gives me a decent stepping stone depending how Preuss plays and then a potential top 10 defender in Witherden. Option 1 possibly safer, but Option 2 could give me that bigger reward if Preuss and Witherden play like definite keepers.
TIA
Grundy, Stewart and a rookie for me.
Think Gawn/Grundy are must haves if you can start them.
Really like the Stewart pick as well.
Yeah, will mean I have G/G, thanks mate, Atkins kind of just there as a place holder until rookies named, but should play and be alright for Gold Coast
Cripps/Stewart Vs Fyfe/Williams
1st option I feel are more durable and suit Rnd 14 Bye. Fyfe and Williams both have bad history but also the possibility of scoring well.
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Cripps/Stewart Vs Fyfe/Williams
1st option I feel are more durable and suit Rnd 14 Bye. Fyfe and Williams both have bad history but also the possibility of scoring well.
dependability and higher overall year points total for option 1.
plus save on potential trades for covering williams/fyfe
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Cripps/Stewart Vs Fyfe/Williams
1st option I feel are more durable and suit Rnd 14 Bye. Fyfe and Williams both have bad history but also the possibility of scoring well.
Cripps and Williams
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Cripps and Williams
Current set up with Rowell M6 and Rozee F2.
Danger, Neale & Rowell
Vs
Sidebottom, Merrett & Mitchell
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Danger, Neale & Rowell
Vs
Sidebottom, Merrett & Mitchell
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Personally would go DNR with no contest. Perhaps an interesting one ......
R Marshall V anyone else (if Marshall only to miss one week) ?? Would you be prepared to carry him and lose points for one round to save a trade and have that ruck back up. Modification As Marshall looks to be out for longer he becomes Dangerfield.
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Do Not Resuscitate - Isnt Mitchell suspect with injury preseason.
Rozee v Butters
Quote from: RoughRed on February 20, 2021, 09:57:38 AM
Rozee v Butters
Tough call.
Rozee probably at 100k cheaper. Both still on the rise.
Butters averaged 87 in SC last year , with only 2% CBAs across the season. He is touted to play a lot more midfield this year.
Reckon Rozee will be similar and at the price difference he’s the one for me.
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Rozee v Butters
Tough call.
Rozee probably at 100k cheaper. Both still on the rise.
Butters averaged 87 in SC last year , with only 2% CBAs across the season. He is touted to play a lot more midfield this year.
Reckon Rozee will be similar and at the price difference he’s the one for me.
Yeah difficult picking players like these 2 Rozee obviously cheaper but also a lot of low scoring games Butters showed way more last year but expensive , maybe a year to early for both ? at Butters price I think Greene or Heeney might be better options.
Sier vs Heppell?
Lots of vacancy in the MID at collingwood vs previous premium capable of 90-100
Aim is that this will be a cheap keeper for M8/9 by season end
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Sier vs Heppell?
Lots of vacancy in the MID at collingwood vs previous premium capable of 90-100
Aim is that this will be a cheap keeper for M8/9 by season end
Heppell, more history
Caldwell + Dusty vs. Rowell + Heeny
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Dusty and the drovers dog even. Dusty a noted big game player. I'll have my VC on him for Rd.1. First game of the season, first game in front of a crowd at the "G" for a year, and his team unfurls not one but two premiership flags. Something which has never happened before. If that's not a big game, what is ?? I wouldn't be surprised if he gets a super score for Rd.1. I reckon he could be a great POD VC first up and that most will probably double up on Gawn and Grundy. Cheers and best of luck K27.
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Quote from: Sabretooth Tigers on March 05, 2021, 01:59:23 AM
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Dusty and the drovers dog even. Dusty a noted big game player. I'll have my VC on him for Rd.1. First game of the season, first game in front of a crowd at the "G" for a year, and his team unfurls not one but two premiership flags. Something which has never happened before. If that's not a big game, what is ?? I wouldn't be surprised if he gets a super score for Rd.1. I reckon he could be a great POD VC first up and that most will probably double up on Gawn and Grundy. Cheers and best of luck K27.
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Cheers was thinking of VC on him too, but decided against it. He'll be up against my Blue Baggers
Rowell v Walsh
Neither. Split the difference and grab Cripps
Sticking with Rowell only played half a game last weeek and will probably only play 3/4 game on Monday as well. Rowell has spent the preseason strengthening his legs which should see him explode more.
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Neither. Split the difference and grab Cripps
I had Cripps till the Saints game. Plenty of CBAs but then plenty of time forward and crunching pack work and not really showing anything like his superpremo form of the good old days. Not interested in him until he shows he is back.
Short and Rowell v Duggan and Fyfe,
Quote from: Ringo on March 08, 2021, 10:50:55 AM
Short and Rowell v Duggan and Fyfe,
Pending how Rowell looks, Short + Rowell by a mile. Fyfe is primed to spend more time forward this season by every account. It didn't shape up that way last night but remember that Serong and Cerra also missed last night. Duggan is only playing midfield for as long as Yeo is out, allegedly. Additionally, Fyfe is a near certainty to miss a couple of games.
JDG+Rowell vs Heeney+Taranto
Quote from: IntegralX on March 08, 2021, 03:46:00 PM
JDG+Rowell vs Heeney+Taranto
Not really a fan of both forward picks. Both are injury risks and always a chance to play full-time in the forward line. I'd pick degoey as having the higher scoring potential but will always be a too much of a risk for me to consider. Both Rowell and Taranto are good picks but Rowell has the potential to become a super premo.
Williams missing Rd 1 but even previously to that I’ve been 50/50 on these picks.
Williams / Cripps v Daniel / Taranto
Not so sure on Taranto or Cripps too but I could go Bont instead and downgrade Williams to Hayden Young.
Quote from: Hazza09 on March 09, 2021, 03:28:09 AM
Williams missing Rd 1 but even previously to that I’ve been 50/50 on these picks.
Williams / Cripps v Daniel / Taranto
Not so sure on Taranto or Cripps too but I could go Bont instead and downgrade Williams to Hayden Young.
Daniel+ Taranto for me
A) Rowell, Lloyd, Jordon (mid bench)
B) Macrae, Duggan, Campbell (M6)
Quote from: billnats on March 09, 2021, 11:17:38 AM
A) Rowell, Lloyd, Jordon (mid bench)
B) Macrae, Duggan, Campbell (M6)
A) looks the best balanced but I'm not sold on Rowell, think there are better options around the 500k mark
Hunter Clark vs Liam Duggan
Both defenders in a similar price bracket, both look to play significant midfield minutes this season and both should improve to an 85-90+ average, good enough for D6
Who would you pick?
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Hunter Clark vs Liam Duggan
Both defenders in a similar price bracket, both look to play significant midfield minutes this season and both should improve to an 85-90+ average, good enough for D6
Who would you pick?
Not sure on either to be honest but Duggan did have a very strong finish to 2020.
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A) Rowell, Lloyd, Jordon (mid bench)
B) Macrae, Duggan, Campbell (M6)
A) looks the best balanced but I'm not sold on Rowell, think there are better options around the 500k mark
A Leaves me with $900 in the bank so would have to be a mid under Rowell’s price. Cunnington would be enticing but no preseason doesn’t help
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A) Rowell, Lloyd, Jordon (mid bench)
B) Macrae, Duggan, Campbell (M6)
A) looks the best balanced but I'm not sold on Rowell, think there are better options around the 500k mark
A Leaves me with $900 in the bank so would have to be a mid under Rowell’s price. Cunnington would be enticing but no preseason doesn’t help
Do you have Cripps? If not I would find the dough elsewhere.
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A) Rowell, Lloyd, Jordon (mid bench)
B) Macrae, Duggan, Campbell (M6)
A) looks the best balanced but I'm not sold on Rowell, think there are better options around the 500k mark
A Leaves me with $900 in the bank so would have to be a mid under Rowell’s price. Cunnington would be enticing but no preseason doesn’t help
Do you have Cripps? If not I would find the dough elsewhere.
No Cripps. Don’t have the coin for him. I have Merrett, Taranto and Bont already.
Last mid would be from my A or B choice in original post
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A) Rowell, Lloyd, Jordon (mid bench)
B) Macrae, Duggan, Campbell (M6)
A) looks the best balanced but I'm not sold on Rowell, think there are better options around the 500k mark
A Leaves me with $900 in the bank so would have to be a mid under Rowell’s price. Cunnington would be enticing but no preseason doesn’t help
Do you have Cripps? If not I would find the dough elsewhere.
No Cripps. Don’t have the coin for him. I have Merrett, Taranto and Bont already.
Last mid would be from my A or B choice in original post
Grab Rowell then, Lloyd will be super hard to get in, he's a flatliner with his consistency.
Duggan D4 and Impey F4
Vs
Stewart D3 + any sub 140k rook that isn’t already locked in (ex. Fullarton, Murray, Scott)
Quote from: IntegralX on March 09, 2021, 07:15:58 PM
Duggan D4 and Impey F4
Vs
Stewart D3 + any sub 140k rook that isn’t already locked in (ex. Fullarton, Murray, Scott)
1 keeper vs 1 maybe keeper, think you have to go the latter
Oliver & Dunkley vs Neale & Butters
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Oliver & Dunkley vs Neale & Butters
Oliver & Dunkley
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Rowell v Walsh
walsh by 5 lengths nz. no way rowell holds up for the season, longer quarters, less interchange faster game, 2nd yr but first yr player. rowell is bloody good but is a trap.
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Rowell v Walsh
walsh by 5 lengths nz. no way rowell holds up for the season, longer quarters, less interchange faster game, 2nd yr but first yr player. rowell is bloody good but is a trap.
Thanks mate. Will depend on rookie availability and cash leftover.
That said looking at Campbell v Bruhn
And have also been toying with Campbell & Dunkley v mid pricers Green & Phillips
Oliver v Merrett v Macrae?
Or they will average the same so just flip a coin?!
Macrae > Merrett > Oliver for me. I have the first 2 but not the 3rd. That extra 30k from Merrett over Oliver could be huge.
Macrae + Joe Daniher v Dunkley + T.Green/J.Caldwell
Quote from: Holz on March 10, 2021, 10:33:18 AM
Macrae + Joe Daniher v Dunkley + T.Green/J.Caldwell
Macrae + Daniher easily
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Macrae + Joe Daniher v Dunkley + T.Green/J.Caldwell
The first. And if you’re suss on Daniher for whatever reason it’s easy enough to grab Impey/Dow instead.
Impey vs Daniher?
Alright then, Daniher vs impey vs Dow
This one a lot of people will be choosing between. I can only fit 2 personally and it’ll be Daniher and impey at this stage. Dow is a big no thanks for me, despite the hype.
Quote from: bkimm32 on March 10, 2021, 01:01:47 PM
Alright then, Daniher vs impey vs Dow
This one a lot of people will be choosing between. I can only fit 2 personally and it’ll be Daniher and impey at this stage. Dow is a big no thanks for me, despite the hype.
Daniher
Quote from: bkimm32 on March 10, 2021, 01:01:47 PM
Alright then, Daniher vs impey vs Dow
This one a lot of people will be choosing between. I can only fit 2 personally and it’ll be Daniher and impey at this stage. Dow is a big no thanks for me, despite the hype.
I know Dow is fourth year breakout, but never shown the SC scoring ability required to be premium. I don't think his skills are up to AFL level. Likely future captain coach of Manangatang Tigers or Biloela Bombers. Am I missing something here with him?
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Quote from: bkimm32 on March 10, 2021, 01:01:47 PM
Alright then, Daniher vs impey vs Dow
This one a lot of people will be choosing between. I can only fit 2 personally and it’ll be Daniher and impey at this stage. Dow is a big no thanks for me, despite the hype.
I know Dow is fourth year breakout, but never shown the SC scoring ability required to be premium. I don't think his skills are up to AFL level. Likely future captain coach of Manangatang Tigers or Biloela Bombers. Am I missing something here with him?
It seems like Dow is being put in the position to succeed this season. Got roughly half the centre bounces in the practice match. Should get an extended run of games too. Make it break for him...
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Quote from: bkimm32 on March 10, 2021, 01:01:47 PM
Alright then, Daniher vs impey vs Dow
This one a lot of people will be choosing between. I can only fit 2 personally and it’ll be Daniher and impey at this stage. Dow is a big no thanks for me, despite the hype.
I know Dow is fourth year breakout, but never shown the SC scoring ability required to be premium. I don't think his skills are up to AFL level. Likely future captain coach of Manangatang Tigers or Biloela Bombers. Am I missing something here with him?
It seems like Dow is being put in the position to succeed this season. Got roughly half the centre bounces in the practice match. Should get an extended run of games too. Make it break for him...
He is, and he hasn’t really done much to justify it to this point.
Been chopping and changing and not sure which way to go!
Stewart / Taranto / Fullarton
vs
Clark / Bont / Dow
Had cripps in my side until yesterday which I replaced with Taranto.
I know many are going with a 3/5/2/2 set up but something isn’t sitting right with the 3 premo backline.
Quote from: Hazza09 on March 10, 2021, 07:06:00 PM
Been chopping and changing and not sure which way to go!
Stewart / Taranto / Fullarton
vs
Clark / Bont / Dow
Had cripps in my side until yesterday which I replaced with Taranto.
I know many are going with a 3/5/2/2 set up but something isn’t sitting right with the 3 premo backline.
I'm seriously considering a 5 premo backline, Briggs/Highmore/Kosi as rookies. Reckon this line could destroy some coaches.
Quote from: Hazza09 on March 10, 2021, 07:06:00 PM
Been chopping and changing and not sure which way to go!
Stewart / Taranto / Fullarton
vs
Clark / Bont / Dow
Had cripps in my side until yesterday which I replaced with Taranto.
I know many are going with a 3/5/2/2 set up but something isn’t sitting right with the 3 premo backline.
id go the first option. Its very hard to tell how many premo defenders is best to start the year. I have 4 plus clark at the moment due to the uncertainty if more than 3 rookie defenders will play this year. Last year i had a similar issue where i had the choice of Mcasey or Z.Gutherie to pick as rookies. I dont want to that to happen again. At the same time though i dont want my other lines (especially the mids) to be too weak.
Braeden Campbell V Dom Tyson
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Braeden Campbell V Dom Tyson
So long as he keeps getting picked - I'd say Tyson (some runs on the board)
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Tyson capable of scoring consistantly high, making fast cash, and playing off a much superior ruckman. I have both.
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Tyson capable of scoring consistantly high, making fast cash, and playing off a much superior ruckman. I have both.
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Thanks, yeah I would like to have both, but I have gone for Fantasia. I just think he will score well with the new rule.
If 4 defensive rookies get named rd 1:
Clark (D5) + Rowell (M4) vs Merrett + Rookie
that's a tough one , merrett is a big step up on rowell (based on expectations of 2nd year player, which rowell may eclipse).
but clark is a big step up on even a good rookie. def rookies look pretty average even if named.
if clark was 300-350 yeah go merrett and rook but hes only 240...
Clark/Dunkley v Daniel/Daniher
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Clark/Dunkley v Daniel/Daniher
Clark/Dunks
+1
Yes Clark and Dunks
Another one
Short/Dunks v Stewart/Dusty
Short v Howe similar price and Howe looked great in the AAMI.
Clark Vs Tyson for M6.
Without factoring in Clark being a much needed defender. If both were mids only for M6 who do you choose?
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Clark Vs Tyson for M6.
Without factoring in Clark being a much needed defender. If both were mids only for M6 who do you choose?
I'd go Clark.
Tyson V Heppell
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Clark Vs Tyson for M6.
Without factoring in Clark being a much needed defender. If both were mids only for M6 who do you choose?
I'd go Clark.
Tyson V Heppell
Heppell I think. Tyson doesn’t have that much JS imo, nor will he score that well in the real thing when Cunnington/Anderson/Dumont return.
Neale+Daniher (F3) vs Steele+Caldwell (F2)? Money isn’t a consideration because there’s nowhere to spend it atm
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Clark Vs Tyson for M6.
Without factoring in Clark being a much needed defender. If both were mids only for M6 who do you choose?
I'd go Clark.
Tyson V Heppell
I wouldn't take either of them, but if you do, Tyson seems riskier than Heppell IMO.
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Clark/Dunkley v Daniel/Daniher
Daniel/Daniher for me, not sold on Clark's JS, think you need a back-up plan if you go down this route
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I 'd go Clark and Dunkley. Joe's highest score for the last 3 seasons is 103, Clark is young, keen and developing and in my opinion has a far higher ceiling than Daniher. Job security is seen by many as Clark draw back, yet he stayed at Geelong rather than transfer when other teams showed interest in getting him. Dunkley and Daniel both good players, but also IMO Dunkley with the higher ceiling. After all it is about scoring the most points isn't it.
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I 'd go Clark and Dunkley. Joe's highest score for the last 3 seasons is 103, Clark is young, keen and developing and in my opinion has a far higher ceiling than Daniher. Job security is seen by many as Clark draw back, yet he stayed at Geelong rather than transfer when other teams showed interest in getting him. Dunkley and Daniel both good players, but also IMO Dunkley with the higher ceiling. After all it is about scoring the most points isn't it.
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Reasonable argument but no sideways available if Clark gets dropped. Will cost you 2 trades to fix defence if no other rooks get the call up. Also worth bearing in mind that Clark will be playing wing where the competition is intense.
Another point re. Daniher is he'll be getting top notch supply, can see him going at 85 for the season. In his AA year he had 20 scores over 70, be tough to get this consistency with Clark (even if he holds his spot).
Quote from: Bully on March 13, 2021, 02:32:49 PM
Another point re. Daniher is he'll be getting top notch supply, can see him going at 85 for the season. In his AA year he had 20 scores over 70, be tough to get this consistency with Clark (even if he holds his spot).
I'm picking Clark he stayed at the Cats for a reason and was everywhere in the last match , Daniher not a bad pick but he is a stand alone fwd. and they always throw garbage scores if the defenders are good and stops them scoring plus he has been injured for ever it seems.
Ridley vs Daniel vs Mills vs Doc
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Ridley vs Daniel vs Mills vs Doc
Daniel Ridley Mills Doc in that order for me.
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Ridley vs Daniel vs Mills vs Doc
Daniel by quite some margin
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Another point re. Daniher is he'll be getting top notch supply, can see him going at 85 for the season. In his AA year he had 20 scores over 70, be tough to get this consistency with Clark (even if he holds his spot).
I'm picking Clark he stayed at the Cats for a reason and was everywhere in the last match , Daniher not a bad pick but he is a stand alone fwd. and they always throw garbage scores if the defenders are good and stops them scoring plus he has been injured for ever it seems.
Scott has been cagey about Clark, I reckon it will be a week to week proposition.
Cripps V Rowell
Cripps. One is a proven 110+ scorer that will be in the majority of CB's. The other we have a small sample size and is coming off a long term injury with no idea how he will handle a tag.
Quote from: Ringo on March 13, 2021, 05:16:40 PM
Cripps V Rowell
Cripps - proven he can easily get to 115, needs some support in the midfield but Williams probably gets the hard tag.
Rowell - second year player coming back from shoulder surgery, has hardly been tested away from home, shortened quarters also helping his cause. Think the expectations on this guy are a tad bit high. Also a chance he gets managed, shoulders can be lingering concerns.
Quote from: Mat0369 on March 13, 2021, 05:22:04 PM
Cripps. One is a proven 110+ scorer that will be in the majority of CB's. The other we have a small sample size and is coming off a long term injury with no idea how he will handle a tag.
Thanks Guys - My thinking as well but just wondering how far behind I may be if Rowell comes out firing.
Quote from: Bully on March 13, 2021, 02:21:42 PM
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I 'd go Clark and Dunkley. Joe's highest score for the last 3 seasons is 103, Clark is young, keen and developing and in my opinion has a far higher ceiling than Daniher. Job security is seen by many as Clark draw back, yet he stayed at Geelong rather than transfer when other teams showed interest in getting him. Dunkley and Daniel both good players, but also IMO Dunkley with the higher ceiling. After all it is about scoring the most points isn't it.
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Reasonable argument but no sideways available if Clark gets dropped. Will cost you 2 trades to fix defence if no other rooks get the call up. Also worth bearing in mind that Clark will be playing wing where the competition is intense.
All good points Bully. But I'm keeping the Clark faith. As far as sideways is concerned I have enough ready $'s to go up to Hayden Young. Was planning long term keeping Clark as a Def/Mid emergency. Early days, reckon most of us still have several team changes we'll try out before the first bounce. Cheers and best of luck mate. Go Tiges !!!!
Which 2 of? Can afford any combo except Ziebell & Tyson.
Ziebell, Tyson, Dow, Daniher, Impey.
Quote from: Sabretooth Tigers on March 13, 2021, 05:28:43 PM
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I 'd go Clark and Dunkley. Joe's highest score for the last 3 seasons is 103, Clark is young, keen and developing and in my opinion has a far higher ceiling than Daniher. Job security is seen by many as Clark draw back, yet he stayed at Geelong rather than transfer when other teams showed interest in getting him. Dunkley and Daniel both good players, but also IMO Dunkley with the higher ceiling. After all it is about scoring the most points isn't it.
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Reasonable argument but no sideways available if Clark gets dropped. Will cost you 2 trades to fix defence if no other rooks get the call up. Also worth bearing in mind that Clark will be playing wing where the competition is intense.
All good points Bully. But I'm keeping the Clark faith. As far as sideways is concerned I have enough ready $'s to go up to Hayden Young. Was planning long term keeping Clark as a Def/Mid emergency. Early days, reckon most of us still have several team changes we'll try out before the first bounce. Cheers and best of luck mate. Go Tiges !!!!
Contingency plan good, only 1 trade to fix. Best of luck & enjoy the unfurling of two flags.
Quote from: dmac07 on March 13, 2021, 05:39:25 PM
Which 2 of? Can afford any combo except Ziebell & Tyson.
Ziebell, Tyson, Dow, Daniher, Impey.
Zeibell and Daniher for me. Seems to be the most popular at the moment.
A) Williams & Dunkley
B) Stewart & Butters
C) Laird & Phillips
Quote from: billnats on March 14, 2021, 11:49:57 AM
A) Williams & Dunkley
B) Stewart & Butters
C) Laird & Phillips
Option A if you are willing to cop a rookie score round 1
Option C if you want to go with a full deck
Quote from: Bully on March 14, 2021, 12:08:04 PM
Quote from: billnats on March 14, 2021, 11:49:57 AM
A) Williams & Dunkley
B) Stewart & Butters
C) Laird & Phillips
Option A if you are willing to cop a rookie score round 1
Option C if you want to go with a full deck
Williams can also be Duggan to avoid the rookie score R1 but think Williams is the better long term option of the two.
Quote from: billnats on March 14, 2021, 11:49:57 AM
A) Williams & Dunkley
B) Stewart & Butters
C) Laird & Phillips
For me it can't be A need a good start to the season and points are gold so I would go B Stewart reliable and Butters is really proving he can score well.
P:S just reading your post above Duggan and Dunkley , Duggan pumped out some good scores in latter part of last season.
Duggan vs Williams vs Witherden vs Docherty
Trying to find some value to make my $$$ stretch further, I’m short of filling a few rookie spots and suspect I’m too top heavy.
Quote from: Woppa15 on March 14, 2021, 04:58:45 PM
Duggan vs Williams vs Witherden vs Docherty
Trying to find some value to make my $$$ stretch further, I’m short of filling a few rookie spots and suspect I’m too top heavy.
Docherty
Quote from: Bully on March 14, 2021, 05:02:19 PM
Quote from: Woppa15 on March 14, 2021, 04:58:45 PM
Duggan vs Williams vs Witherden vs Docherty
Trying to find some value to make my $$$ stretch further, I’m short of filling a few rookie spots and suspect I’m too top heavy.
Docherty
+1
Lloyd + Rowell vs Daniel + Merrett
Quote from: Samsturmfels on March 14, 2021, 06:12:18 PM
Lloyd + Rowell vs Daniel + Merrett
Easy one Daniel + Merrett
Quote from: shaker on March 14, 2021, 06:20:28 PM
Quote from: Samsturmfels on March 14, 2021, 06:12:18 PM
Lloyd + Rowell vs Daniel + Merrett
Easy one Daniel + Merrett
thanks mate. For me i am still struggling to decide
DM scored on average 217.1 vs 224.6 LR. However Lloyd may be potential slightly overpriced and Rowell could potential be under-priced (but also overpriced).
Quote from: Samsturmfels on March 14, 2021, 06:27:51 PM
Quote from: shaker on March 14, 2021, 06:20:28 PM
Quote from: Samsturmfels on March 14, 2021, 06:12:18 PM
Lloyd + Rowell vs Daniel + Merrett
Easy one Daniel + Merrett
thanks mate. For me i am still struggling to decide
DM scored on average 217.1 vs 224.6 LR. However Lloyd may be potential slightly overpriced and Rowell could potential be under-priced (but also overpriced).
Lloyd & Merrett more chance to be keepers so there's that to consider.
As far as Neale goes, it all depends on how he starts, think he's 120 this year although I may be wrong. Risky leaving him out of course, but I think the Brisbane mids such as Berry & McCluggage will start to get a bigger slice of the pie.
Quote from: Bully on March 14, 2021, 07:03:54 PM
Quote from: Samsturmfels on March 14, 2021, 06:27:51 PM
Quote from: shaker on March 14, 2021, 06:20:28 PM
Quote from: Samsturmfels on March 14, 2021, 06:12:18 PM
Lloyd + Rowell vs Daniel + Merrett
Easy one Daniel + Merrett
thanks mate. For me i am still struggling to decide
DM scored on average 217.1 vs 224.6 LR. However Lloyd may be potential slightly overpriced and Rowell could potential be under-priced (but also overpriced).
Lloyd & Merrett more chance to be keepers so there's that to consider.
As far as Neale goes, it all depends on how he starts, think he's 120 this year although I may be wrong. Risky leaving him out of course, but I think the Brisbane mids such as Berry & McCluggage will start to get a bigger slice of the pie.
Just on that Neale comment Bully, is 120 enough to start him do you think? Or hope for a slow start and perhaps first upgrade?
If you don't start Neale, how do you plan on bringing him in? If he scores his average against each team leading up to the bye he won't drop under 600k using the Tooserious salary calculator. So if you plan on bringing him in early how do you plan on doing it? It's near impossible unless you're culling underperforming premiums and if you are it's a waste of a trade.
Quote from: Mat0369 on March 15, 2021, 12:32:38 AM
If you don't start Neale, how do you plan on bringing him in? If he scores his average against each team leading up to the bye he won't drop under 600k using the Tooserious salary calculator. So if you plan on bringing him in early how do you plan on doing it? It's near impossible unless you're culling underperforming premiums and if you are it's a waste of a trade.
It's a risk & the logistics will be difficult if he starts like he did last year. However, I'm not placing too much credence on last year's scores, they don't look right, not just for Neale but a host of others. I'm reasonably confident he'll dip below 650k & I'll back myself to grab him round 6 or 7. There's also injury to consider, in which case a sideways trade will be on the cards. Time will tell of course, I'm not oozing confidence but I know a slowish start might give me me a slight advantage. Don't think Neale & mid pricer will trump Cripps/Taranto in points or trades.
Quote from: Bully on March 15, 2021, 01:39:53 AM
Quote from: Mat0369 on March 15, 2021, 12:32:38 AM
If you don't start Neale, how do you plan on bringing him in? If he scores his average against each team leading up to the bye he won't drop under 600k using the Tooserious salary calculator. So if you plan on bringing him in early how do you plan on doing it? It's near impossible unless you're culling underperforming premiums and if you are it's a waste of a trade.
It's a risk & the logistics will be difficult if he starts like he did last year. However, I'm not placing too much credence on last year's scores, they don't look right, not just for Neale but a host of others. I'm reasonably confident he'll dip below 650k & I'll back myself to grab him round 6 or 7. There's also injury to consider, in which case a sideways trade will be on the cards. Time will tell of course, I'm not oozing confidence but I know a slowish start might give me me a slight advantage. Don't think Neale & mid pricer will trump Cripps/Taranto in points or trades.
or Neale and a rook & using the money saved elsewhere?
Quote from: j959 on March 15, 2021, 02:12:57 AM
Quote from: Bully on March 15, 2021, 01:39:53 AM
Quote from: Mat0369 on March 15, 2021, 12:32:38 AM
If you don't start Neale, how do you plan on bringing him in? If he scores his average against each team leading up to the bye he won't drop under 600k using the Tooserious salary calculator. So if you plan on bringing him in early how do you plan on doing it? It's near impossible unless you're culling underperforming premiums and if you are it's a waste of a trade.
It's a risk & the logistics will be difficult if he starts like he did last year. However, I'm not placing too much credence on last year's scores, they don't look right, not just for Neale but a host of others. I'm reasonably confident he'll dip below 650k & I'll back myself to grab him round 6 or 7. There's also injury to consider, in which case a sideways trade will be on the cards. Time will tell of course, I'm not oozing confidence but I know a slowish start might give me me a slight advantage. Don't think Neale & mid pricer will trump Cripps/Taranto in points or trades.
or Neale and a rook & using the money saved elsewhere?
(https://i.imgur.com/I4S6VNM.png)
Open to suggestions but can't see any way apart from a defender down to Clark, something I'm not too keen on.
Possibly Short/Stewart to Williams/Duggan and upgrade Bont to Neale?
Quote from: tommy10 on March 15, 2021, 02:01:09 PM
Possibly Short/Stewart to Williams/Duggan and upgrade Bont to Neale?
Bont to Neale will cost 98k, that means Short is out the question. Can do it with Stewart but that also entails copping a rookie score round 1 (if I take Williams). Not sold on Duggan, 50/50 to crack 95 this year but the West Coast midfield have some big names to return so it's fraught with risk. Thought about Witherden but would only take if I knew he would be the designated kick out guy.
Bont/Stewart vs Neale/Williams
Also need to scrap for another 10k which means downgrading another rookie. Not sure that's possible without cutting Briggs, that would effectively leave me without a loophole & ruck insurance.
Those that are going Flynn at R2, Gawn vs Grundy for first ruck?
Gawn worth the extra 100k?
Quote from: jfitty on March 15, 2021, 04:28:01 PM
Those that are going Flynn at R2, Gawn vs Grundy for first ruck?
Gawn worth the extra 100k?
The only flaw with this strategy is Flynn being supplanted by Briggs who is listed in defence/attack. Meek probably makes way for Darcy & Hunter will make way for Ryder. That leaves you in a difficult situation if the rookie rucks haven't made enough $$.
Lloyd and Phillips (swing to be a keeper FWD)
Or
Ridley and Cripps
Short/Macrae v Daniel or Ridley/Dangerfield???
Quote from: B. on March 15, 2021, 10:14:41 PM
Short/Macrae v Daniel or Ridley/Dangerfield???
Daniel/Dangerfield
Quote from: Fid on March 15, 2021, 10:19:16 PM
Quote from: B. on March 15, 2021, 10:14:41 PM
Short/Macrae v Daniel or Ridley/Dangerfield???
Daniel/Dangerfield
Cripps/Impey v Dangerfield (mid)/FWD rookie named
Quote from: B. on March 15, 2021, 10:29:56 PM
Quote from: Fid on March 15, 2021, 10:19:16 PM
Quote from: B. on March 15, 2021, 10:14:41 PM
Short/Macrae v Daniel or Ridley/Dangerfield???
Daniel/Dangerfield
Cripps/Impey v Dangerfield (mid)/FWD rookie named
I'd go the Dangerfield option, not that impressed with Impey
Quote from: hawkers65 on March 15, 2021, 08:42:33 PM
Lloyd and Phillips (swing to be a keeper FWD)
Or
Ridley and Cripps
I like Ridley and Cripps as a combo but I think Lloyd is also a must.
Ridley vs Stewart
I like both but Stewart is under priced due to his injury game. I'd have to go with Stewart in that situation.
Quote from: Mat0369 on March 16, 2021, 01:59:54 AM
I like both but Stewart is under priced due to his injury game. I'd have to go with Stewart in that situation.
Thanks Mat ...
Quote from: RoughRed on March 16, 2021, 02:02:17 AM
Thanks Mat ...
Can you manage to squeeze both in? They're both intercept players that take their teams kick outs. It's a pretty good combo for SC
Quote from: Mat0369 on March 16, 2021, 02:06:03 AM
Quote from: RoughRed on March 16, 2021, 02:02:17 AM
Thanks Mat ...
Can you manage to squeeze both in? They're both intercept players that take their teams kick outs. It's a pretty good combo for SC
Currently
Laird, Daniel, Stewart, Short, Clark, rook (rook rook)
Running GG as rucks so tapped out $-wise atm
Jordan Clark vs Hayden Young? Feels like Clark has the higher ceiling but Young the job security.
Quote from: Slick5 on March 16, 2021, 10:45:38 AM
Jordan Clark vs Hayden Young? Feels like Clark has the higher ceiling but Young the job security.
I think Clark is the better option here, and I think his JS issues are being overstated honestly. Clark almost walked last offseason, don't forget that.
Quote from: IntegralX on March 16, 2021, 11:32:28 AM
Quote from: Slick5 on March 16, 2021, 10:45:38 AM
Jordan Clark vs Hayden Young? Feels like Clark has the higher ceiling but Young the job security.
I think Clark is the better option here, and I think his JS issues are being overstated honestly. Clark almost walked last offseason, don't forget that.
My opinion is if he stays in team when Duncan returns his JS is strong, I am starting Young and if Clark stays in team when Duncan returns may downgrade as a correction trade for Rd 3,
::)
Jye Caldwell V Zac Bailiey. Purely in a scoring capability. Price irrelevant. What's your opinion of Zac Ringo ?
Based on preseason form both Bailey and Ryner were the 2 projected to take game to next level. Taken in the 2017 draft and coming into 4th year when a lot tend to break out. Will spend more time in the mids this year as has been said and possibly even more with Rayner injured.
Bailey scored 90SC points from 75% TOG with 2 goals and 3 frees against in the AAMI against Suns, Has looked good in the intra club as well.
Lachie Young v Wil Hamill v Connor Idun
Quote from: Ringo on March 16, 2021, 04:42:59 PM
Based on preseason form both Bailey and Ryner were the 2 projected to take game to next level. Taken in the 2017 draft and coming into 4th year when a lot tend to break out. Will spend more time in the mids this year as has been said and possibly even more with Rayner injured.
Bailey scored 90SC points from 75% TOG with 2 goals and 3 frees against in the AAMI against Suns, Has looked good in the intra club as well.
Thanks Ringo. Appreciate the help. He's F3 atm Danger, Dusty, Bailey, Ziebell, Daniher, Rowe //Brockman, Scott.
Cheers and the very best of British !!
;)
Worried about defensive rookies so I’m looking at bringing in J Clark at D5.
Current backline is: Laird, Llyod, Daniel, Short, L Jones, Highmore ( Kosi, Murray )
If I bring in Clark I’ll need to downgrade somewhere.
My options are:
Taranto
Rowell
Dusty
Short
and all 4 of those im iffy on trading out.
Quote from: Hazza09 on March 16, 2021, 06:49:47 PM
Worried about defensive rookies so I’m looking at bringing in J Clark at D5.
Current backline is: Laird, Llyod, Daniel, Short, L Jones, Highmore ( Kosi, Murray )
If I bring in Clark I’ll need to downgrade somewhere.
My options are:
Taranto
Rowell
Dusty
Short
and all 4 of those im iffy on trading out.
Rowell would be the one. Put simply, he doesn't have the scoring history & he's coming back from shoulder surgery.
Josh Kelly or Bont issue is have McCrae and Taranto or other choices
Quote from: whynot102 on March 16, 2021, 08:06:17 PM
Josh Kelly or Bont issue is have McCrae and Taranto or other choices
Bont.
Butters vs Bolton vs DeGoey vs Phillips? For F2.
Quote from: dmac07 on March 16, 2021, 08:34:47 PM
Butters vs Bolton vs DeGoey vs Phillips? For F2.
I really like Degoey but Butters may be safer pick.
If i require more cash for rookies, which trade would you do?
1) Rowell to Taranto
2) Neale to Merrett
3) Danger to Daniel/Ridley.
Im not sure if im comfortable with any of those trades. But at the moment im worried that im not going to have enough flexibility with my rookie selections. I have all the main popular rookies expected to play apart, its just the last two/three spots that may be tight for money if one of the 102k players arent picked apart from Scott.
Quote from: Samsturmfels on March 16, 2021, 08:41:41 PM
If i require more cash for rookies, which trade would you do?
1) Rowell to Taranto
2) Neale to Merrett
3) Danger to Daniel/Ridley.
Im not sure if im comfortable with any of those trades. But at the moment im worried that im not going to have enough flexibility with my rookie selections. I have all the main popular rookies expected to play apart, its just the last two/three spots that may be tight for money if one of the 102k players arent picked apart from Scott.
Rowell to Taranto easily for mine
Quote from: jfitty on March 16, 2021, 08:46:28 PM
Quote from: Samsturmfels on March 16, 2021, 08:41:41 PM
If i require more cash for rookies, which trade would you do?
1) Rowell to Taranto
2) Neale to Merrett
3) Danger to Daniel/Ridley.
Im not sure if im comfortable with any of those trades. But at the moment im worried that im not going to have enough flexibility with my rookie selections. I have all the main popular rookies expected to play apart, its just the last two/three spots that may be tight for money if one of the 102k players arent picked apart from Scott.
thanks mate. Ill might just have to wait and see. Im looking at Bruhn. Although his SP is shower, his JS could be potentially really high with a number of smaller GWS players injured. Also i wouldnt be surprised if heath chapman plays considering all of the talls Freo are missing now.
Rowell to Taranto easily for mine
Quote from: dmac07 on March 16, 2021, 08:34:47 PM
Butters vs Bolton vs DeGoey vs Phillips? For F2.
Butters for me
Bolton fighting for points in the Richmond team - they spread the point round
DeGoey does not seem to be able to stay on the park
Phillips just does not do it for me, new team and all but not convinced
I hate that I have ended up in this position but....
Neale/Dunkley vs Oliver/Danger
In an ideal world I’d be starting all 4 but loading up down back + Gawn/Grundy is making life difficult...
Quote from: Money Shot on March 16, 2021, 09:29:51 PM
I hate that I have ended up in this position but....
Neale/Dunkley vs Oliver/Danger
In an ideal world I’d be starting all 4 but loading up down back + Gawn/Grundy is making life difficult...
start all 4 and replace gawn with flynn. go old school
Quote from: crowls on March 16, 2021, 09:35:03 PM
Quote from: Money Shot on March 16, 2021, 09:29:51 PM
I hate that I have ended up in this position but....
Neale/Dunkley vs Oliver/Danger
In an ideal world I’d be starting all 4 but loading up down back + Gawn/Grundy is making life difficult...
start all 4 and replace gawn with flynn. go old school
Don’t tempt me...
Quote from: Money Shot on March 16, 2021, 09:29:51 PM
I hate that I have ended up in this position but....
Neale/Dunkley vs Oliver/Danger
In an ideal world I’d be starting all 4 but loading up down back + Gawn/Grundy is making life difficult...
Neale & Dunkley I reckon although pretty line ball.
Quote from: Money Shot on March 16, 2021, 09:41:58 PM
Quote from: crowls on March 16, 2021, 09:35:03 PM
Quote from: Money Shot on March 16, 2021, 09:29:51 PM
I hate that I have ended up in this position but....
Neale/Dunkley vs Oliver/Danger
In an ideal world I’d be starting all 4 but loading up down back + Gawn/Grundy is making life difficult...
start all 4 and replace gawn with flynn. go old school
Don’t tempt me...
Don't do it, can all turn to shizen if Briggs assumes the primary ruck role.
Oliver vs Steele
Oliver. Steele was the major beneficiary from the shortened games. He has struggled with his tank in previous seasons so it allowed him to play a larger percentage of games and saw his scoring go up.
Quote from: Mat0369 on March 16, 2021, 11:11:28 PM
Oliver. Steele was the major beneficiary from the shortened games. He has struggled with his tank in previous seasons so it allowed him to play a larger percentage of games and saw his scoring go up.
Or maybe he just raised his game to a new level last year.
Quote from: JBs-Hawks on March 16, 2021, 11:25:36 PM
Or maybe he just raised his game to a new level last year.
Possible, but guys like Neale and Trac would be in the 90's while Steele is probably looking at 85% at best. With the games extending out I'd want to see how his tank goes back at the longer quarters before forking out 658k for him
Dan Houston vs Duggan
Tom Mitchell & Toby Greene vs Taranto & Dunkley
Quote from: smashbox on March 17, 2021, 08:29:26 AM
Dan Houston vs Duggan
Tom Mitchell & Toby Greene vs Taranto & Dunkley
Duggan - only because Houston burnt me last year.
Taranto/Dunkley without hesitation
A) Laird, Rowell, Forward Rookie @ F4
B) Duggan, Fyfe, Forward Rookie
C) Laird, Tyson, Phillips
Quote from: smashbox on March 17, 2021, 08:29:26 AM
Dan Houston vs Duggan
Tom Mitchell & Toby Greene vs Taranto & Dunkley
My personal preference would be Duggan but imo no desernable difference between the two
Dunkley and Taranto for me. I question both TMitchell and TGreene capacity to play a full season.
Quote from: smashbox on March 17, 2021, 08:29:26 AM
Dan Houston vs Duggan
Tom Mitchell & Toby Greene vs Taranto & Dunkley
Houston for the first one
Second one is tough, I think the Mitchell/Greene combo could be a difference maker, I just don't trust Greene to stay on the park and we don't know how Mitchell will go after the off-season surgery. I'd probably lean towards option 2
Quote from: billnats on March 17, 2021, 08:51:58 AM
A) Laird, Rowell, Forward Rookie @ F4
B) Duggan, Fyfe, Forward Rookie
C) Laird, Tyson, Phillips
Probably option a. Laird is a much better than Duggan. Phillips doesn't move the needle for me. Fyfe I like over Rowell, but not enough to end up with Duggan instead of Laird.
Quote from: Mat0369 on March 16, 2021, 11:37:14 PM
Quote from: JBs-Hawks on March 16, 2021, 11:25:36 PM
Or maybe he just raised his game to a new level last year.
Possible, but guys like Neale and Trac would be in the 90's while Steele is probably looking at 85% at best. With the games extending out I'd want to see how his tank goes back at the longer quarters before forking out 658k for him
So your saying petracca has a better tank then steele? Anything to back this up?
Dusty vs Dunkley?
Quote from: JBs-Hawks on March 17, 2021, 11:45:33 AM
So your saying petracca has a better tank then steele? Anything to back this up?
Trac played 90.1% TOG last year. It was 4th in the AFL behind Gaff, Neale and Langdon. He looked in peak condition last year running both offensively and defensively and that's a large reason his points spiked. He probably rested forward more than what Steele did, but Trac was a machine last year.
I was shocked to see Steele up to 85.4 which was higher than Cripps, Macrae and Danger (all 85.1%).
I just had a quick scan over Steele's 2019 and there are a lot of 75-80% TOG through the middle of the season, but he actually started the season quite high which I found surprising looking at the numbers. In the last portion he pushes that up to 85-90% which is ideal for a gun mid.
Can’t make my mind up with the following players, one day out and starting to panic.
Murray ( or a equivalent D8 ), Taranto, Briggs, Waterman
Vs
J Clark, Ziebell, J Jordon ( or a equivalent M10 ), Warner
I could change Warner to Fullarton who I’m starting to warm too.
Even though I rate Taranto I need to bring in a D5 as I’m starting to get the feeling that L Jones might not get selected.
Option 1 gives you a potential keeper but zero cash gen. Option 2 I feel gives you more cash gen and a couple of guys that will be decent stepping stones. I would go with option 2.
Quote from: Hazza09 on March 17, 2021, 03:35:39 PM
Can’t make my mind up with the following players, one day out and starting to panic.
Murray ( or a equivalent D8 ), Taranto, Briggs, Waterman
Vs
J Clark, Ziebell, J Jordon ( or a equivalent M10 ), Warner
I could change Warner to Fullarton who I’m starting to warm too.
Even though I rate Taranto I need to bring in a D5 as I’m starting to get the feeling that L Jones might not get selected.
Option 2 - if Warner doesn't play then you could downgrade him. It'll be interesting to see if Waterman is named....only played a quarter I think in the AAMI game, so not very confident on him. You can pick up Briggs as a fwd too (depending on your backs).
Quote from: Mat0369 on March 17, 2021, 03:37:27 PM
Option 1 gives you a potential keeper but zero cash gen. Option 2 I feel gives you more cash gen and a couple of guys that will be decent stepping stones. I would go with option 2.
Yes I agree, replacing Taranto basically with Ziebell and improving my rookies.
I don’t really like the idea of it but with limited defensive rookies I’ve had to go Llyod, Laird, Daniel, Short and now J Clark.
Just can’t see how it’s going to be possibly to go with a D5 and D6 defensive positions with rookies.
I could replace Taranto with Rowell, but I love Rowell’s game for SC over Taranto’s.
The other option was to go Dusty to Dunkley but I just can’t make my mind up on that one too.
Grundy + Walsh + $15k
Vs
Neale + Draper + $106k
Quote from: Hazza09 on March 17, 2021, 03:56:09 PM
Yes I agree, replacing Taranto basically with Ziebell and improving my rookies.
I don’t really like the idea of it but with limited defensive rookies I’ve had to go Llyod, Laird, Daniel, Short and now J Clark.
Just can’t see how it’s going to be possibly to go with a D5 and D6 defensive positions with rookies.
I could replace Taranto with Rowell, but I love Rowell’s game for SC over Taranto’s.
The other option was to go Dusty to Dunkley but I just can’t make my mind up on that one too.
I'm personally taking Taranto. A lot of guys tend to break out in year 5 (which Taranto is coming into his 5th season now) and last year was a bit of a wash with the injury. The season before that he won a best and fairest in a team that made the GF before going huge on the big stage. Rowell should be clear of his injury but we have no idea how he will adjust to the tag since the one game he did get tagged he busted his shoulder instantly.
Quote from: RoughRed on March 17, 2021, 04:23:46 PM
Grundy + Walsh + $15k
Vs
Neale + Draper + $106k
I don't like the Draper pick. You need him to average 95-100 to be a decent stepping stone in the ruck. I feel Grundy and Walsh at least gives you two keepers.
Caldwell + Ziebell vs. Campbell + Bailey
Daniel vs Short?
Can’t have both..
Quote from: tkringle on March 17, 2021, 06:26:51 PM
Daniel vs Short?
Can’t have both..
I like Daniel!
I don’t think many people would be considering Short if he didn’t have his 160
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Quote from: JBs-Hawks on March 17, 2021, 11:45:33 AM
So your saying petracca has a better tank then steele? Anything to back this up?
Trac played 90.1% TOG last year. It was 4th in the AFL behind Gaff, Neale and Langdon. He looked in peak condition last year running both offensively and defensively and that's a large reason his points spiked. He probably rested forward more than what Steele did, but Trac was a machine last year.
I was shocked to see Steele up to 85.4 which was higher than Cripps, Macrae and Danger (all 85.1%).
I just had a quick scan over Steele's 2019 and there are a lot of 75-80% TOG through the middle of the season, but he actually started the season quite high which I found surprising looking at the numbers. In the last portion he pushes that up to 85-90% which is ideal for a gun mid.
You do realise they don’t just go off when there tired? They go off when the coaches tell them to with rotations...
Dow or Dom Tyson
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Dow or Dom Tyson
I'm going Tyson. Both having iffy JS, both butchwr it a bit, but Tyson can at least get 20+ touches and hit the scoreboard.
Fantasia+Dow vs Caldwell+Fullarton?
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Daniel vs Short?
Can’t have both..
I like Daniel!
I don’t think many people would be considering Short if he didn’t have his 160
True to a degree, I think he's fair weight with some potential to crack the ton, probably need to see how Houli is managed in his final season. Think he will take a fair chunk of the kick outs too.
::)
Tom Stewart v Callum Mills
:-\
Dow vs Daniher?
Quote from: Mat0369 on March 16, 2021, 11:11:28 PM
Oliver. Steele was the major beneficiary from the shortened games. He has struggled with his tank in previous seasons so it allowed him to play a larger percentage of games and saw his scoring go up.
Steele has struggled with his tank in previous seasons...?
Lol what
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Quote from: JBs-Hawks on March 16, 2021, 11:25:36 PM
Or maybe he just raised his game to a new level last year.
Possible, but guys like Neale and Trac would be in the 90's while Steele is probably looking at 85% at best. With the games extending out I'd want to see how his tank goes back at the longer quarters before forking out 658k for him
Wait.....
Did you really just say Jack Steele is going to struggle with running out full length games but CHRISTIAN PETRACCA will benefit from them???
Dude, you should not give fantasy advice lmao
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So your saying petracca has a better tank then steele? Anything to back this up?
Trac played 90.1% TOG last year. It was 4th in the AFL behind Gaff, Neale and Langdon. He looked in peak condition last year running both offensively and defensively and that's a large reason his points spiked. He probably rested forward more than what Steele did, but Trac was a machine last year.
I was shocked to see Steele up to 85.4 which was higher than Cripps, Macrae and Danger (all 85.1%).
I just had a quick scan over Steele's 2019 and there are a lot of 75-80% TOG through the middle of the season, but he actually started the season quite high which I found surprising looking at the numbers. In the last portion he pushes that up to 85-90% which is ideal for a gun mid.
You do realise they don’t just go off when there tired? They go off when the coaches tell them to with rotations...
Lol I don’t think this guy he ever played football before
And he’s crazy if he thinks Jack Steele isn’t going to spend 75% game time in the centre square this season with 10-15+% resting forward with as little time as possible rotating on the bench, being the captain and all this season, they will want his leadership on field as much as possible.
I mean will Steele score more than Petracca and Oliver? I’m not sure, maybe, maybe not... but fitness, aerobic capacity, TOG etc will not play a factor in that at all.
And either way 85% to 84.5% TOG or whatever numbers Mat gave is so marginal that it’s not even close being a determining factor when choosing premiums anyway....
Just so we don't get confused here -
Steele Sidebottom - elite endurance
Jack Steele - more a power athlete but is slowly improving his tank
I can’t believe I’m at this point but...
Lloyd/Butters/Hunter
Vs
Stewart/Dusty/Flynn + 25k
That 25k extra enables me to fix both Murray and Bergman if neither are named...
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I can’t believe I’m at this point but...
Lloyd/Butters/Hunter
Vs
Stewart/Dusty/Flynn + 25k
That 25k extra enables me to fix both Murray and Bergman if neither are named...
Last option, particularly given you get better rookies ie. Briggs
Taranto hasn’t moved from my team from day 1 but last minute thoughts:
A) Taranto, Rowell, Butters
B) Tyson, Kelly/Fyfe, Dunkley
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Taranto hasn’t moved from my team from day 1 but last minute thoughts:
A) Taranto, Rowell, Butters
B) Tyson, Kelly/Fyfe, Dunkley
Option B, two keepers in all probability
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Taranto hasn’t moved from my team from day 1 but last minute thoughts:
A) Taranto, Rowell, Butters
B) Tyson, Kelly/Fyfe, Dunkley
Option B, two keepers in all probability
Fyfe or Kelly?
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Taranto hasn’t moved from my team from day 1 but last minute thoughts:
A) Taranto, Rowell, Butters
B) Tyson, Kelly/Fyfe, Dunkley
Option B, two keepers in all probability
Fyfe or Kelly?
Kelly but both come with injury risk. My concern with Fyfe is he'll be expected to spend more time forward in the early rounds, particularly with Treacy out.
I have two that I'm super stumped on:
Walsh vs Cripps- Cripps has runs on the board but forward time worries me.
Macrae vs Oliver- both have a high floor and ceiling, but can only fit one into my team.
What does everyone think?
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I have two that I'm super stumped on:
Walsh vs Cripps- Cripps has runs on the board but forward time worries me.
Macrae vs Oliver- both have a high floor and ceiling, but can only fit one into my team.
What does everyone think?
Walsh and Macrae
Harmes or Jiath?
Quote from: Hoggyz_a_legend on March 18, 2021, 02:46:23 PM
I have two that I'm super stumped on:
Walsh vs Cripps- Cripps has runs on the board but forward time worries me.
Macrae vs Oliver- both have a high floor and ceiling, but can only fit one into my team.
What does everyone think?
Walsh + Macrae
Quote from: Hoggyz_a_legend on March 18, 2021, 02:46:23 PM
I have two that I'm super stumped on:
Walsh vs Cripps- Cripps has runs on the board but forward time worries me.
Macrae vs Oliver- both have a high floor and ceiling, but can only fit one into my team.
What does everyone think?
Cripps, think you have to go with previous scoring history.
Macrae, three consecutive 120 seasons whereas Oliver has only 1 (in a season with reduced match time)
Rowell or Toranto
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Harmes or Jiath?
Of the two, I'd say Jiath. But Webster, Fantasia, Young and Clark are better options around the same price imo.
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Rowell or Toranto
Taranto, don't like picking guys coming off serious injury
Cox V Dow ??
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Cox V Dow ??
Cox, good chance to make some cash at D7/8
lloyd & saunders (donut)
v
Howe/short/McDonald & daniher/dow/impey
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Cox V Dow ??
Cox, good chance to make some cash at D7/8
Thanks mate, and probably a good swing option with Briggs
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Cox V Dow ??
Cox, good chance to make some cash at D7/8
Thanks mate, and probably a good swing option with Briggs
Yep, roving loophole very handy.
Danger + Taranto
Vs
Dunkley + Rowell
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lloyd & saunders (donut)
v
Howe/short/McDonald & daniher/dow/impey
Short & Daniher
Is Oliver to Adams then fwd rookie to Dow worth it or could go Tyson to Dow or just hold
depends if dow breaks out, named on ball, personally id take the best rooks over him and probably him over the worst rooks. he's a gamble but a cheap one. and adams could match oliver so that side of it is no big issue.
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Is Oliver to Adams then fwd rookie to Dow worth it or could go Tyson to Dow or just hold
If Dow slays it then I'm open to trading Daniher or Ziebell but I don't think he's worth a restructure
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Danger + Taranto
Vs
Dunkley + Rowell
Danger & Taranto
agree but just. i just turned rowell into cripps, such a big ask 2nd year, almost first year to sustain the level, not get injured again, and he's not exactly basement price (rowell).
Love dunkley tho. nothing to stop you going dunkley - tarranto and having cash for possible rook improvements
Lloyd & Dow vs Short/Doch & Phillips
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Lloyd & Dow vs Short/Doch & Phillips
Short + Phillips
Dunkley, Bontempelli, H.Young
Vs
Rowell, De Goey, C.Daniel
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Lloyd & Dow vs Short/Doch & Phillips
Short + Phillips
Dunkley, Bontempelli, H.Young
Vs
Rowell, De Goey, C.Daniel
Top, Daniel I like but Rowell has only 5 games to his name & is coming back from injury. Bont looks in ripping form & Dogs have quite a few winnable games coming up.
Quote from: JBs-Hawks on March 17, 2021, 06:43:14 PM
You do realise they don’t just go off when there tired? They go off when the coaches tell them to with rotations...
Yes I do. But you also realise that the rotations are mostly predetermined and based off what the sports scientists say to get the maximum value out of guys? They will spend longer stints on the bench to get their breath back or they will rotate heavily to try and keep them fresh. Hence why you get guys going off the ground after they have kicked a goal. A perfect example of this is Nic Nat. They'll run him under 70% TOG because he is fresher and has a larger impact.
Quote from: bkimm32 on March 18, 2021, 10:16:05 AM
Steele has struggled with his tank in previous seasons...?
Lol what
It was a common complaint by guys that had him in their team. I actually found the numbers by season. 2017 he averaged 75.6%, 2018 he averaged 79.3%, 2019 it was 84.35 and 2020 it was 85.47. The 2019 percentage is actually a lot better than I originally thought it would be.
Quote from: bkimm32 on March 18, 2021, 10:20:08 AM
Wait.....
Did you really just say Jack Steele is going to struggle with running out full length games but CHRISTIAN PETRACCA will benefit from them???
Dude, you should not give fantasy advice lmao
No, I said Jack Steele has struggled to run out full length games in the past. The shorter length games would have helped these burst players that don't have elite endurance as they're on longer in the shorter form and can in turn get a larger percentage of the points than they would have in the past. Someone like Lachie Neale will still see 90% TOG, as will Christian Petracca as he will rest forward rather than on the bench like Dusty did tonight. Trac also improved his endurance running tenfold last offseason and it was visible from the get go and it allowed him to play majority midfield which he wasn't capable of in the past. Jack Macrae played 85% game time last year and will probably play 85% this year. That's a possible extra 13 minutes of game time he will be on for this year. In an extra 13 minutes per game I think Macrae could see a spike.
Quote from: bkimm32 on March 18, 2021, 10:29:52 AM
Lol I don’t think this guy he ever played football before
And he’s crazy if he thinks Jack Steele isn’t going to spend 75% game time in the centre square this season with 10-15+% resting forward with as little time as possible rotating on the bench, being the captain and all this season, they will want his leadership on field as much as possible.
I mean will Steele score more than Petracca and Oliver? I’m not sure, maybe, maybe not... but fitness, aerobic capacity, TOG etc will not play a factor in that at all.
And either way 85% to 84.5% TOG or whatever numbers Mat gave is so marginal that it’s not even close being a determining factor when choosing premiums anyway....
Again, you're looking at this completely wrong. My argument is that if a guy was running at 78% game time and suddenly jumped up to 85% with the shorter quarters I'd like to see him perform at a high level when the game has stretched out to full length again if I'm spending 658k. The numbers will be inflated for these players and jumping from 95 to 122 could be because of this. The positive for Steele is he was running out 85% of the full length games the previous year so he may be a chance to maintain that average but I likely see him dropping back. Oliver has had 3 seasons around the 110 mark so there is less risk in picking him because you know you'll likely get at least that.
H Jones v Henry
Jones will probably get a better run and is a little cheaper
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Caldwell + Ziebell vs. Campbell + Bailey
Also:
P Hunter + 1 of Gulden/Berry/Downie/Brockman/Powell
vs.
Meek + McNeil instead of one of Gulden/Berry/Downie/Brockman/Powell
I'd rather go Campbell and Ziebell even though that's not a choice.
I'd also take Hunter and Powell or Gulden
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I'd rather go Campbell and Ziebell even though that's not a choice.
I'd also take Hunter and Powell or Gulden
ty
Yeah I've got all those rookies listed, would just need to 'downgrade' one to McNeil to go Hunter up to Meek.
Didn't wanna go both Campbell+Ziebell as I've already got Daniher+Impey :P
I feel the cash gen opportunity is too good to pass up with both those guys. Ziebell could also turn into a F6/F7 keeper. I'm trying to pick the guys that I think will make me the most cash as quickly as possible and I think Campbell and Ziebell fit that category
Ridley v Caleb?
This one is doing my head in.
Macrae, Rowell, Flynn, harrison Jones, and Mcneil
vs
Gawn, Daniher, B Campbell, powell and warner
so 1 prem and better rookies vs 2 prem
caleb
Quote from: ants on March 19, 2021, 03:05:03 PM
This one is doing my head in.
Macrae, Rowell, Flynn, harrison Jones, and Mcneil
vs
Gawn, Daniher, B Campbell, powell and warner
so 1 prem and better rookies vs 2 prem
I would feel more comfortable with the Gawn option. If you still have Flynn on your bench under the Gawn option, then the rookies seem to be a lot more solid than the Macrae option. I think Daniher, Campbell, Powell are must haves, Warner right up there, and Flynn of course. You have to also consider what if Rowell doesn't become a top 10 keeper. You also have to find the cash later on to get Gawn into your side if he dominates like we expect him to.
How about Fullerton vs Jones?
Bergman over both if he gets named, but feeling that he won't
Also Butts vs Cox? (hehe)
Butts down back. Had him in my team but I worry once Doedee is back if his role changes.
I'd probably take Jones because if you're going the slow burn option you may as well get one with longer term job security
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How about Fullerton vs Jones?
Bergman over both if he gets named, but feeling that he won't
Also Butts vs Cox? (hehe)
Fullerton has a bit more breathing space, minimum 2 price rises I think. No expert on strained medials but McStay won't be doing a hell of a lot of running for a couple of weeks.
Port boys are tricky, Hartlett comes back too. I reckon you would have to bench them with a view they will be in and out.
He was referring to Harrison Jones not Lachie I believe.
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How about Fullerton vs Jones?
Bergman over both if he gets named, but feeling that he won't
Also Butts vs Cox? (hehe)
Fullerton has a bit more breathing space, minimum 2 price rises I think. No expert on strained medials but McStay won't be doing a hell of a lot of running for a couple of weeks.
Port boys are tricky, Hartlett comes back too. I reckon you would have to bench them with a view they will be in and out.
Thanks lads!
Harry Jones is the one I meant - feel he could be a slow burn, but possibly staying in the team longer than Fullerton will?
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How about Fullerton vs Jones?
Bergman over both if he gets named, but feeling that he won't
Also Butts vs Cox? (hehe)
Fullerton has a bit more breathing space, minimum 2 price rises I think. No expert on strained medials but McStay won't be doing a hell of a lot of running for a couple of weeks.
Port boys are tricky, Hartlett comes back too. I reckon you would have to bench them with a view they will be in and out.
Thanks lads!
Harry Jones is the one I meant - feel he could be a slow burn, but possibly staying in the team longer than Fullerton will?
Honestly don't have much of a clue where Essendon is concerned. If they are in rebuild mode then he probably gets a decent run, having an interrupted first year not great however, especially with fewer rotations. Slow burn absolutely, probably need 8 games.
Now with Downie not playing:
Sharp (Def/Mid) vs Berry (Mid)?
Fyfe vs Mitchell vs Kelly
Quote from: Wanderer on March 19, 2021, 07:51:12 PM
Now with Downie not playing:
Sharp (Def/Mid) vs Berry (Mid)?
Berry
In 5k short on Stewart which is tragic so
Houston or McDonald? Always liked both as POD's I just didn't have the stones when I could afford Stewart.
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Now with Downie not playing:
Sharp (Def/Mid) vs Berry (Mid)?
Berry
In 5k short on Stewart which is tragic so
Houston or McDonald? Always liked both as POD's I just didn't have the stones when I could afford Stewart.
I have McDonald FWIW. I watched him play the pre-season game and apart from not doing much in first qtr, he started doing what he did last year and racking up possessions in the last 3 qtrs. That's all I needed to see. Yes, his score was low due to poor disposal efficiency, but his role seems to be the same. Walsh had a low score in preseason game due to poor disposal efficiency but got a lot of it, so I think McDonald will do the same as Walsh did when the real stuff starts. McDonald was a massive POD for me last year and I'm backing him in again. I am not worried about Ziebel impacting him.
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Fyfe vs Mitchell vs Kelly
Mitchell only because he is way more durable and seems the safest pick.
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Now with Downie not playing:
Sharp (Def/Mid) vs Berry (Mid)?
Sharp given the shortage of rookie defenders, he's a steeple chaser which I also like.
Scott vs berry
Scott as a Emergency or Rowe / Berry?
Quote from: smashbox on March 19, 2021, 08:42:02 PM
Scott vs berry
Can you get both? If not, probably Berry
Meek vs. Hunter (R3)
Hunter
Neale + Daniher + $50.2K
v
Oliver + Caldwell
Neale gives another captain/vice captain option to match up with Gawn!
Neale and Daniher as you say extra c/vc options with rucks appearing to not be as high scoring this year.
Hunter v Flynn
Berry vs Downie
Quote from: Hazza09 on March 20, 2021, 01:20:51 PM
Berry vs Downie
Downie listed as emergency so Berry
Impey or Daniher?
I've got both but if I had to pick one it would be Daniher. He has a higher ceiling which is better for cash gen
Quote from: tkringle on March 20, 2021, 01:30:42 PM
Impey or Daniher?
Impey scoring will be more consistent, but Daniher has the higher ceiling. If the extra $20k saved on Impey doesn't help you elsewhere, then Daniher is the way to go IMO.
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Impey or Daniher?
Impey scoring will be more consistent, but Daniher has the higher ceiling. If the extra $20k saved on Impey doesn't help you elsewhere, then Daniher is the way to go IMO.
The 20K by going Impey will let me correct McNeil to Jordon before round 3. Think that’s worth it.
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Impey or Daniher?
Impey scoring will be more consistent, but Daniher has the higher ceiling. If the extra $20k saved on Impey doesn't help you elsewhere, then Daniher is the way to go IMO.
The 20K by going Impey will let me correct McNeil to Jordon before round 3. Think that’s worth it.
That sounds like the way to go.
Fullerton or Bergman
Quote from: smashbox on March 20, 2021, 08:27:38 PM
Fullerton or Bergman
Bergman I think, Port tend to give the youngsters a decent shot.
Ridley v Dusty
If danger gets more than three weeks I’m torn between these guys:
Mills vs Zorko
Trading Mills obviously means I’m shuffling players
Mills looked GREAT.
Zorko had 114 with 6 clangers and 5 free kicks against, that's 44 points off his score so 158.
That doesn't really help you does it :)
Can't go wrong.
Can not go wrong with either. Zorko benefited from the work Swans out into Neale and this may not be always the case.
Zorko needs to control his aggression especially as already been fined this year to avoid suspension.
Mills looked great in new role and in saying that Lions defence was pathetic so would like to see another week from Mills for true gauge but unfortunately do not have that option.
That is a little bit of the contra for both but as been said toss a coin.
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Ridley v Dusty
Dusty
Thanks mate. I'm still undecided what I'm gonna do I could do the following
-Danger/Rowell to
1) Walsh and Dusty
2) Walsh and Ridley
3) Titch and Taranto (plus about 50k in bank instead of 25k).
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Ridley v Dusty
Dusty
Thanks mate. I'm still undecided what I'm gonna do I could do the following
-Danger/Rowell to
1) Walsh and Dusty
2) Walsh and Ridley
3) Titch and Taranto (plus about 50k in bank instead of 25k).
Have you looked into which option is best for your bye structure?
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Ridley v Dusty
Dusty
Thanks mate. I'm still undecided what I'm gonna do I could do the following
-Danger/Rowell to
1) Walsh and Dusty
2) Walsh and Ridley
3) Titch and Taranto (plus about 50k in bank instead of 25k).
I like option 3, you get a top10 mid & a guy who should crack the ton & be suitable for M8. The cash will be handy for rookie corrections.
Walsh & Dusty still great picks but I suspect Dusty will have his days where he spends most of the time forward, hence more obtainable.
Ridley does look good but one season doesn't maketh the man.
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Ridley v Dusty
Dusty
Thanks mate. I'm still undecided what I'm gonna do I could do the following
-Danger/Rowell to
1) Walsh and Dusty
2) Walsh and Ridley
3) Titch and Taranto (plus about 50k in bank instead of 25k).
Have you looked into which option is best for your bye structure?
to be honest atm im more focused on which picks will score the most points for me. Bye structure will change quite alot before the byes.
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Ridley v Dusty
Dusty
Thanks mate. I'm still undecided what I'm gonna do I could do the following
-Danger/Rowell to
1) Walsh and Dusty
2) Walsh and Ridley
3) Titch and Taranto (plus about 50k in bank instead of 25k).
I like option 3, you get a top10 mid & a guy who should crack the ton & be suitable for M8. The cash will be handy for rookie corrections.
Walsh & Dusty still great picks but I suspect Dusty will have his days where he spends most of the time forward, hence more obtainable.
Ridley does look good but one season doesn't maketh the man.
Thanks mate. I do like option 2 because it gives me Titch, however i am worried that Taranto will spend too much time forward.
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Ridley v Dusty
Dusty
Thanks mate. I'm still undecided what I'm gonna do I could do the following
-Danger/Rowell to
1) Walsh and Dusty
2) Walsh and Ridley
3) Titch and Taranto (plus about 50k in bank instead of 25k).
I like option 3, you get a top10 mid & a guy who should crack the ton & be suitable for M8. The cash will be handy for rookie corrections.
Walsh & Dusty still great picks but I suspect Dusty will have his days where he spends most of the time forward, hence more obtainable.
Ridley does look good but one season doesn't maketh the man.
Thanks mate. I do like option 2 because it gives me Titch, however i am worried that Taranto will spend too much time forward.
Taranto could actually benefit from being forward but I suppose we need to see that on the scoreboard.
The other option is Titch/Zorko, do you have the funds for this?
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Ridley v Dusty
Dusty
Thanks mate. I'm still undecided what I'm gonna do I could do the following
-Danger/Rowell to
1) Walsh and Dusty
2) Walsh and Ridley
3) Titch and Taranto (plus about 50k in bank instead of 25k).
How about Titch and Zac Williams (or Hunter Clark)?
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Ridley v Dusty
Dusty
Thanks mate. I'm still undecided what I'm gonna do I could do the following
-Danger/Rowell to
1) Walsh and Dusty
2) Walsh and Ridley
3) Titch and Taranto (plus about 50k in bank instead of 25k).
How about Titch and Zac Williams (or Hunter Clark)?
Don't mind that suggestion either.
I think the goal here should be getting two keepers who are vying for top 10 in their respective lines. I'd even entertain going Sidebottom/Dusty as I think there's a strong chance they finish top 6 forwards.
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Ridley v Dusty
Dusty
Thanks mate. I'm still undecided what I'm gonna do I could do the following
-Danger/Rowell to
1) Walsh and Dusty
2) Walsh and Ridley
3) Titch and Taranto (plus about 50k in bank instead of 25k).
How about Titch and Zac Williams (or Hunter Clark)?
Don't mind that suggestion either.
I think the goal here should be getting two keepers who are vying for top 10 in their respective lines. I'd even entertain going Sidebottom/Dusty as I think there's a strong chance they finish top 6 forwards.
If Sidey can stay on the park, he will be top 6-8 forward easily, and we all know Dusty is going to be one of the best.
Heppell/Dusty or McGrath Stephenson
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Heppell/Dusty or McGrath Stephenson
Heppell/Dusty
Less risk, 1 absolute keeper & a really nice stepping stone to a Neale or Oliver.
Ranked 593rd so I’m going to trade hard and make a run.
Need to ditch Danger (already have the usual suspects Titch, Martin, Dunkley), and also have Nik Cox at D5 which is a problem.
Which should I do:
Danger > Ridley
Cox > Logan McDonald, Warner or maybe Fin Macrae if named
OR
Danger > Sidey (POD) and give Cox another week?
Fairly happy with the rest of the team, McNeil at M11 but not concerned.
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Ranked 593rd so I’m going to trade hard and make a run.
Need to ditch Danger (already have the usual suspects Titch, Martin, Dunkley), and also have Nik Cox at D5 which is a problem.
Which should I do:
Danger > Ridley
Cox > Logan McDonald, Warner or maybe Fin Macrae if named
OR
Danger > Sidey (POD) and give Cox another week?
Fairly happy with the rest of the team, McNeil at M11 but not concerned.
If you have a rookie at D5 I'd get a premo in quick smart. Watched Ridley and he looked sharp, long penetrating kicking. The only concern would be future lock down roles, not sure how the Bombers plan on using him.
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Ranked 593rd so I’m going to trade hard and make a run.
Need to ditch Danger (already have the usual suspects Titch, Martin, Dunkley), and also have Nik Cox at D5 which is a problem.
Which should I do:
Danger > Ridley
Cox > Logan McDonald, Warner or maybe Fin Macrae if named
OR
Danger > Sidey (POD) and give Cox another week?
Fairly happy with the rest of the team, McNeil at M11 but not concerned.
If you have a rookie at D5 I'd get a premo in quick smart. Watched Ridley and he looked sharp, long penetrating kicking. The only concern would be future lock down roles, not sure how the Bombers plan on using him.
Cheers Bully, that definitely seems the plan.
Have Lloyd, Laird, Stewart and Daniel already, so think Ridley would be the next best
Martin & Fantasia
Or
Taranto & Stephenson
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Martin & Fantasia
Or
Taranto & Stephenson
Martin & Fantasia
Bailey Smith v McGrath v Taranto?
Not sure if any of these guys will be Top 8-10 mids by this years end.
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Bailey Smith v McGrath v Taranto?
Not sure if any of these guys will be Top 8-10 mids by this years end.
Personally feel McGrath has the highest upside but Taranto comes in 60k cheaper so there's that to consider. Smith is spending more time in the back half which may affect his consistency, he's a jet but probably not the best pick in a team laden with fantasy stars.
Can you afford Zorko? He is 50/50 to be a top 6 forward so worth a punt.
Dusty or Zorko and Heppell or Stephenson and McGrath
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Dusty or Zorko and Heppell or Stephenson and McGrath
Dusty & Heppell.
I just think the odds of nailing two breakouts is pretty remote. There's certainly merit in both selections but you would be exposing yourself to a fair degree of risk.
Dusty Heppell vs Dunkley Rowe
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Dusty Heppell vs Dunkley Rowe
Dusty Heppell for mine.
How about Ridley vs Sidebottom for Danger?
Ridley
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Dusty Heppell vs Dunkley Rowe
Dusty Heppell for mine.
How about Ridley vs Sidebottom for Danger?
Ridley & Dunkley vs Dunkley B Smith
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Ridley & Dunkley vs Dunkley B Smith
Ridley and Dunkley easily and it's not even close.
Need to pick two to start:
Nik Cox vs Scott vs Harry Jones vs Bergman
Thinking the last two?
Bergman and Scott
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Bergman and Scott
Hopefully you went Scott?
Jordon or Scott?
Brockman or AScott
Boak v Brayshaw
Second trade this week? After Dow to Jordon.
Powell to Impey
Phillips to Butters
Phillips to Walker +191k, Switkowski +210k, Impey + 277k
H.Jones to L.McDonald.
Impey v Tex
Have money to afford either.
Phillips > Butters.
Impey imo. Don't like KPF's in sc.
Forward correction trade:
Campbell or Warner?
Don't mind the extra $$ saved going Warner, but Campbell might make cash a bit quicker?
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Forward correction trade:
Campbell or Warner?
Don't mind the extra $$ saved going Warner, but Campbell might make cash a bit quicker?
I am lucky enough to have both.
I would go Campbell and on the plus side he is DPP
Boak & Dunkley or Oliver and Butters
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Boak & Dunkley or Oliver and Butters
Oliver & Butters for me ... no real logic one way the other as they are both great selections, just gut feel :o
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Boak & Dunkley or Oliver and Butters
Toss up as Dunkley & Oliver are must haves.
Boak safer to hit 110 but could drop off from here and settle at 105 (don't think he goes lower). Butters has a lower floor but as a forward he stands more chance to be top 6.
Trade out Neale and H.Jones to Dusty and Tex for scoring and cash generation purposes
vs
saving the trades for the long-term (have already used 2 trades).
Really keen to have quick cash gen and i feel Tex can make some quick cash and am worried about Neale possibly playing with an injury/being stuck in Melbourne. However, nearly every year except 1 I have run out of trades at least a couple of weeks early before the last round (I have played 9 years). I am generally aggressive with Injuries and rookies to try and improve my teams. This year will mostly likely be worse for injuries (due to shorter breaks between seasons and lower interchange cap) and the new concussion rule protocols.
Thoughts?
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Trade out Neale and H.Jones to Dusty and Tex for scoring and cash generation purposes
vs
saving the trades for the long-term (have already used 2 trades).
Really keen to have quick cash gen and i feel Tex can make some quick cash and am worried about Neale possibly playing with an injury/being stuck in Melbourne. However, nearly every year except 1 I have run out of trades at least a couple of weeks early before the last round (I have played 9 years). I am generally aggressive with Injuries and rookies to try and improve my teams. This year will mostly likely be worse for injuries (due to shorter breaks between seasons and lower interchange cap) and the new concussion rule protocols.
Thoughts?
facing the same dilema. The pros are that Keep Neale given that he will still probably be a top 10 mid and save 2 trades - one to trade out and one to get back in.
Cons He has started poorly and will reduce in value so no issues if you are keeping. However if you feel you can use cash better and salvage points with the extra upgrades go for it.
So deciision for me is save 2 trades v increased points initially and then getting Neale when he bottoms out.
Same for me going to trade and get an extra Orem in with the cash
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Trade out Neale and H.Jones to Dusty and Tex for scoring and cash generation purposes
vs
saving the trades for the long-term (have already used 2 trades).
Really keen to have quick cash gen and i feel Tex can make some quick cash and am worried about Neale possibly playing with an injury/being stuck in Melbourne. However, nearly every year except 1 I have run out of trades at least a couple of weeks early before the last round (I have played 9 years). I am generally aggressive with Injuries and rookies to try and improve my teams. This year will mostly likely be worse for injuries (due to shorter breaks between seasons and lower interchange cap) and the new concussion rule protocols.
Thoughts?
facing the same dilema. The pros are that Keep Neale given that he will still probably be a top 10 mid and save 2 trades - one to trade out and one to get back in.
Cons He has started poorly and will reduce in value so no issues if you are keeping. However if you feel you can use cash better and salvage points with the extra upgrades go for it.
So deciision for me is save 2 trades v increased points initially and then getting Neale when he bottoms out.
Yeah its very hard to know. If we have bad luck with injuries later on the season we may be wishing we didn't do the trades. Some people say trades should be worth 150k or something like that. When i am tight on trades at the end of the season it may be the difference between having a premo on the field vs having to field a rookie/a 0. But at the same time, i want my overall rank to keep climbing and the only way to that is to keep improving your team.
Boak vs Brayshaw
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Boak vs Brayshaw
brayshaw 31 at 84% can't really go past boak either. two mot traded in players again (not in my team). Freo looking half good Fyfe playing fwd when back.
rozee back for port this week hopefully might take a few touches off butters and boak?
Tex v Impey v Warner.
Replacing Caldwell. Looking for cash gen and points.
Current thinking is Tex, Warner, Impey in that order.
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Tex v Impey v Warner.
Replacing Caldwell. Looking for cash gen and points.
Current thinking is Tex, Warner, Impey in that order.
That's the same order I would put them in as well
Big decision this week, still in the top 2k, unsure of going for gold or playing it safe:
Harry Jones > Campbell (only one trade)
OR
Nik Cox > Warner & Taranto > Brayshaw
Feel young Andy is the real deal this year
Drop Dow or Daniher?
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Drop Dow or Daniher?
Drop Dow who to date is a 1 in 50 chance to break the 80 barrier.
Who to field Bergman or Fullaton or Rowe?
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Who to field Bergman or Fullaton or Rowe?
Heard somewhere that Bergman likely to be the sub. Don’t have a source article or tweet that I can find for it though.
Brining in a defender-
Ridley or
Mills/Short and use the 70/80k spare from them for future upgrades
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Brining in a defender-
Ridley or
Mills/Short and use the 70/80k spare from them for future upgrades
Grab Ridley I think, looks to be a cut above.
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Brining in a defender-
Ridley or
Mills/Short and use the 70/80k spare from them for future upgrades
Grab Ridley I think, looks to be a cut above.
X2
agree plus you save 30-50k getting ridley now instead of later.
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Brining in a defender-
Ridley or
Mills/Short and use the 70/80k spare from them for future upgrades
Grab Ridley I think, looks to be a cut above.
X2
lock it in and throw away the key
Need to offload Caleb.
Short or Bowes?
Both look very similar but Bowes that little bit cheaper. Thinking Bowes to be that little bit different.
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Need to offload Caleb.
Short or Bowes?
Both look very similar but Bowes that little bit cheaper. Thinking Bowes to be that little bit different.
Decent POD but Short the better disposal efficiency & I wonder when they will revert back to Lukosius who is in my opinion a better kick.
Agree with the comment on Bowes and Luka being moved around is my concern with Bowes.
However this one Short v Houston. Houston could be a pod and with Ports injuries may become even my relevant. Against Shorts disposal efficiency. Thought Houlis return may effect him but did not appear to last week. What will happen when Vlastuin returns as well.
Been on the Houston train before. What's changed?
Houston looks the goods this year. I actually preferred him playing HB as he was able to roam free and had kick in duties. He moved into the guts and killed it but the worry is they may use him as a run with player which kills his average.
Doc and Rich are the other two floating under the radar
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Houston looks the goods this year. I actually preferred him playing HB as he was able to roam free and had kick in duties. He moved into the guts and killed it but the worry is they may use him as a run with player which kills his average.
Doc and Rich are the other two floating under the radar
Quite a few solid options, that's why Jiath might be too big a risk at this stage. Hurn at 410k is just about a lock for me, you know he will take 80% of the kick outs.
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Houston looks the goods this year. I actually preferred him playing HB as he was able to roam free and had kick in duties. He moved into the guts and killed it but the worry is they may use him as a run with player which kills his average.
Doc and Rich are the other two floating under the radar
Quite a few solid options, that's why Jiath might be too big a risk at this stage. Hurn at 410k is just about a lock for me, you know he will take 80% of the kick outs.
But Hurn is out with a calf for 2-3 weeks..
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Houston looks the goods this year. I actually preferred him playing HB as he was able to roam free and had kick in duties. He moved into the guts and killed it but the worry is they may use him as a run with player which kills his average.
Doc and Rich are the other two floating under the radar
Quite a few solid options, that's why Jiath might be too big a risk at this stage. Hurn at 410k is just about a lock for me, you know he will take 80% of the kick outs.
But Hurn is out with a calf for 2-3 weeks..
This is obviously down the track (coach said 1-2 weeks), will hope my D6 holds out until then, priority is midfield for now.
Honestly can't remember another year where most of the mids have significantly dipped below their starting price. Titch at 550k & Neale at 520ks crazy at this point in the year.
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Houston looks the goods this year. I actually preferred him playing HB as he was able to roam free and had kick in duties. He moved into the guts and killed it but the worry is they may use him as a run with player which kills his average.
Doc and Rich are the other two floating under the radar
Quite a few solid options, that's why Jiath might be too big a risk at this stage. Hurn at 410k is just about a lock for me, you know he will take 80% of the kick outs.
But Hurn is out with a calf for 2-3 weeks..
This is obviously down the track (coach said 1-2 weeks), will hope my D6 holds out until then, priority is midfield for now.
Honestly can't remember another year where most of the mids have significantly dipped below their starting price. Titch at 550k & Neale at 520ks crazy at this point in the year.
Yeah AFL injury list now saying 2-3 weeks. With his age it could stretch out as well given it’s a calf.
Yep after this week I am going to focus on the midfield as well. Who the top 8 after Macrae, Oliver and Steele are is unclear though. Might Target Titch.
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Houston looks the goods this year. I actually preferred him playing HB as he was able to roam free and had kick in duties. He moved into the guts and killed it but the worry is they may use him as a run with player which kills his average.
Doc and Rich are the other two floating under the radar
Quite a few solid options, that's why Jiath might be too big a risk at this stage. Hurn at 410k is just about a lock for me, you know he will take 80% of the kick outs.
But Hurn is out with a calf for 2-3 weeks..
This is obviously down the track (coach said 1-2 weeks), will hope my D6 holds out until then, priority is midfield for now.
Honestly can't remember another year where most of the mids have significantly dipped below their starting price. Titch at 550k & Neale at 520ks crazy at this point in the year.
Yeah AFL injury list now saying 2-3 weeks. With his age it could stretch out as well given it’s a calf.
Yep after this week I am going to focus on the midfield as well. Who the top 8 after Macrae, Oliver and Steele are is unclear though. Might Target Titch.
Titch probably my focus, I like a guaranteed 110 & a guy who rarely misses. After that I will probably roll the dice on Neale, by that stage a legit POD.
I have two parter
Steele vs Oliver vs Danger
I'm trading Daniel out and they're my three options. I feel Danger is due for a big one this week, is out of a lot of teams due to the suspension and could be an excellent POD.
Oliver could get the Worpel tag but has been great to start the year other than the GWS game.
Steele just keeps ticking along and is in 19% of teams. He could be a must have and I can comfortably get him in this week.
Part two
Jordon vs Daniher vs Campbell
I feel Campbell has more money to make once the 29 drops out of his rotation. He is the one I'm inclined to keep.
Daniher has stagnated but comes up against his old team that is struggling for KPD depth. A nice match up and could kick the cash gen off again
Jordon seems to be out of the rotation with Melksham back. 50% TOG is pretty bad and he has a 40ish BE. He was a bit of a wasted trade so far.
All my other rookies have negative BE's other than Kosi/Highmore and I can't swing them for Waterman anyway.
I can do my Danger/Oliver trade using just the one. If I grab Steele I'm just short so I would need to pull the trigger on part two tonight and can't wait and see
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I have two parter
Steele vs Oliver vs Danger
I'm trading Daniel out and they're my three options. I feel Danger is due for a big one this week, is out of a lot of teams due to the suspension and could be an excellent POD.
Oliver could get the Worpel tag but has been great to start the year other than the GWS game.
Steele just keeps ticking along and is in 19% of teams. He could be a must have and I can comfortably get him in this week.
Part two
Jordon vs Daniher vs Campbell
I feel Campbell has more money to make once the 29 drops out of his rotation. He is the one I'm inclined to keep.
Daniher has stagnated but comes up against his old team that is struggling for KPD depth. A nice match up and could kick the cash gen off again
Jordon seems to be out of the rotation with Melksham back. 50% TOG is pretty bad and he has a 40ish BE. He was a bit of a wasted trade so far.
All my other rookies have negative BE's other than Kosi/Highmore and I can't swing them for Waterman anyway.
I can do my Danger/Oliver trade using just the one. If I grab Steele I'm just short so I would need to pull the trigger on part two tonight and can't wait and see
I was a little shocked at Steele's ownership, roughly on par with Clarry, thought he would be around 10%. I'd like him at some stage but not at 650k.
Danger has a high BE, I'd probably wait on that, could see him start deep forward until he gets his mojo back.
Clarry is basically averaging 130 once you take out the De Boer game, good price & despite a high BE I'd grab him while you can, the 130 ensures he will bounce straight back up.
As for the rookies, I'd probably punt Jordon, I would have done the same but I needed the extra cash from Daniher. I reckon 50% game time indicates he's on the cusp of getting dropped.
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I have two parter
Steele vs Oliver vs Danger
I'm trading Daniel out and they're my three options. I feel Danger is due for a big one this week, is out of a lot of teams due to the suspension and could be an excellent POD.
Oliver could get the Worpel tag but has been great to start the year other than the GWS game.
Steele just keeps ticking along and is in 19% of teams. He could be a must have and I can comfortably get him in this week.
Part two
Jordon vs Daniher vs Campbell
I feel Campbell has more money to make once the 29 drops out of his rotation. He is the one I'm inclined to keep.
Daniher has stagnated but comes up against his old team that is struggling for KPD depth. A nice match up and could kick the cash gen off again
Jordon seems to be out of the rotation with Melksham back. 50% TOG is pretty bad and he has a 40ish BE. He was a bit of a wasted trade so far.
All my other rookies have negative BE's other than Kosi/Highmore and I can't swing them for Waterman anyway.
I can do my Danger/Oliver trade using just the one. If I grab Steele I'm just short so I would need to pull the trigger on part two tonight and can't wait and see
I was a little shocked at Steele's ownership, roughly on par with Clarry, thought he would be around 10%. I'd like him at some stage but not at 650k.
Hopefully he has a couple of quiet games including tonight. Would love to get him under 600k.
Quote from: Bully on April 15, 2021, 02:09:13 PM
I was a little shocked at Steele's ownership, roughly on par with Clarry, thought he would be around 10%. I'd like him at some stage but not at 650k.
Danger has a high BE, I'd probably wait on that, could see him start deep forward until he gets his mojo back.
Clarry is basically averaging 130 once you take out the De Boer game, good price & despite a high BE I'd grab him while you can, the 130 ensures he will bounce straight back up.
As for the rookies, I'd probably punt Jordon, I would have done the same but I needed the extra cash from Daniher. I reckon 50% game time indicates he's on the cusp of getting dropped.
Not stressed with Danger's BE as he has only played 1 game. He should slot back into the midfield this week although I saw Cameron is missing so he could spend extra time forward. If he smashes North this week (which he should) that number comes down anyway for his price rise. He also had the most CB's for the Cats in that game against the Crows so while playing a lot of forward he still had that time in the midfield.
Worpel could go to Oliver this week the same way he did to Brayshaw last week. You're probably right that Steele is too expensive but I am shocked he is in under 20% of teams. I should still be able to grab Oliver this week and Danger in a fortnight.
I'm also thinking Jordon is the weakest link. Unfortunately I'll have to pop Campbell on my mid bench this week.
Time to offload Meek to Treacy pocket the 110K? Dropped to Peel Thunder might not get another crack for a while.
Need to offload Danger.
Fyfe v Oliver v Walsh.
Thinking Oliver.
Uncertain about Fyfe going forward and whether or not Walsh can keep it up.
Lachie Jones ruled out, source Herald sun webby. Will miss a month source Port webby.
Doc vs Bowes
I need one to bring in as an upgrade this week for Jordan Clark. Unfortunately I don't have the cash for a Rich/Ryan who I prefer.
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Doc vs Bowes
I need one to bring in as an upgrade this week for Jordan Clark. Unfortunately I don't have the cash for a Rich/Ryan who I prefer.
IMO Docherty over Bowes ...
Not a lot of logic to it but i have seen Doc play live (in the past and last week) and think in a good side he is great, and in a bad side he is awesome
so ....
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Doc vs Bowes
I need one to bring in as an upgrade this week for Jordan Clark. Unfortunately I don't have the cash for a Rich/Ryan who I prefer.
Bowes I worry about with the kick outs, don't think he's as polished as Lukosius & as the season progresses I reckon he'll see less of it.
Docherty has a monster game in him, he does it every year, his floor is also rock solid.
I prefer the other too as well but you can't win them all if cash is limited. Grabbing Doch should be good for 100+ however, that's ok for D6.
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IMO Docherty over Bowes ...
Not a lot of logic to it but i have seen Doc play live (in the past and last week) and think in a good side he is great, and in a bad side he is awesome
so ....
He had iffy disposal when he first came to Carlton but he really cleaned it up and became a dominant ball winner out of the back half that would launch our attacks from defence. I don't think teams will key on him the way they did last season but he has had a few shanks which has hurt his scoring. When you look at his numbers they aren't too dissimilar from 2016 when he averaged 108. The main difference is his tackling where he is averaging under 1 per game but that has a lot to do with our midfield putting zero pressure up the ground so the ball is moving around pretty cleanly inside 50.
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Bowes I worry about with the kick outs, don't think he's as polished as Lukosius & as the season progresses I reckon he'll see less of it.
Docherty has a monster game in him, he does it every year, his floor is also rock solid.
I prefer the other too as well but you can't win them all if cash is limited. Grabbing Doch should be good for 100+ however, that's ok for D6.
I currently have defenders 1, 2, 4 and 7 based on average. The other guys are Bowes (3), Rich (5) and Mills (6).
Bowes has slowed down after his big round 1 to average around 90 over the last 3. It's not great but it's serviceable and more than fine for a D6 option. The floor seems to be coming from the kickins.
Rich and Mills I can't afford and I'd be inclined to grab Ryan over both for the rest of the season.
Doc is averaging 105 over the last 3 which is 9th in that frame. Again probably good enough for D6 in the long run.
I also really like Houston but the knock could probably see him miss this week and he will bleed cash.
Discount Brayshaw vs Walsh? Is the 110k a factor, or take the top-10 lock in Walsh?
Quote from: IntegralX on April 29, 2021, 09:58:57 PM
Discount Brayshaw vs Walsh? Is the 110k a factor, or take the top-10 lock in Walsh?
I'd be aiming for a top 10 mid at this stage.
Quote from: Bully on April 29, 2021, 11:08:49 PM
Quote from: IntegralX on April 29, 2021, 09:58:57 PM
Discount Brayshaw vs Walsh? Is the 110k a factor, or take the top-10 lock in Walsh?
I'd be aiming for a top 10 mid at this stage.
I guess it depends on how many mid premos you have already. I have just traded in Brayshaw and he's my M6 atm
Quote from: Fid on April 30, 2021, 06:49:52 AM
Quote from: Bully on April 29, 2021, 11:08:49 PM
Quote from: IntegralX on April 29, 2021, 09:58:57 PM
Discount Brayshaw vs Walsh? Is the 110k a factor, or take the top-10 lock in Walsh?
I'd be aiming for a top 10 mid at this stage.
I guess it depends on how many mid premos you have already. I have just traded in Brayshaw and he's my M6 atm
Same thinking here. If I trade him for Gulden, he'll be my M6.
Quote from: Fid on April 30, 2021, 06:49:52 AM
Quote from: Bully on April 29, 2021, 11:08:49 PM
Quote from: IntegralX on April 29, 2021, 09:58:57 PM
Discount Brayshaw vs Walsh? Is the 110k a factor, or take the top-10 lock in Walsh?
I'd be aiming for a top 10 mid at this stage.
I guess it depends on how many mid premos you have already. I have just traded in Brayshaw and he's my M6 atm
He would be my M5, with Taranto at M6
Clarry or Titchell and save $83k
Quote from: frenzy on May 03, 2021, 02:12:51 PM
Clarry or Titchell and save $83k
Tough one, I'd probably take Clarry but depends on how you plan on using the 83k.
My dilemma this week is Brayshaw vs Titch vs Josh Kelly, reckon this order is about right.
Quote from: frenzy on May 03, 2021, 02:12:51 PM
Clarry or Titchell and save $83k
Oliver. You want to be bringing in the guys you're certain are going to be in the top handful at this point. Oliver fits that and is probably worth the extra cash.
Quote from: Bully on May 03, 2021, 02:45:55 PM
Tough one, I'd probably take Clarry but depends on how you plan on using the 83k.
My dilemma this week is Brayshaw vs Titch vs Josh Kelly, reckon this order is about right.
I wouldn't go near Josh Kelly. I think Brayshaw has been amazing other than the two games the tag got to him. All the other scores have been over 110. The one thing to look at is he comes up against both those sides again in back to back games down the track. The Hawks game his score could have been even worse. They sent him to tag Mitchell at HT and that eventually broke the tag in the last quarter allowing him to rack up the touches at that point.
Quote from: Mat0369 on May 03, 2021, 03:08:18 PM
Quote from: Bully on May 03, 2021, 02:45:55 PM
Tough one, I'd probably take Clarry but depends on how you plan on using the 83k.
My dilemma this week is Brayshaw vs Titch vs Josh Kelly, reckon this order is about right.
I wouldn't go near Josh Kelly. I think Brayshaw has been amazing other than the two games the tag got to him. All the other scores have been over 110. The one thing to look at is he comes up against both those sides again in back to back games down the track. The Hawks game his score could have been even worse. They sent him to tag Mitchell at HT and that eventually broke the tag in the last quarter allowing him to rack up the touches at that point.
So Titch vs Brayshaw. Who's the best bet?
I kind of went into way too much depth here because I have Mitchell and other than round 1 he has been disappointing and I can't figure out why. He is second in overall disposals and second in effective disposals but he is scoring way lower than he did in 2017 and 2018. He is getting the ball but why is he scoring less?
A basic look at his numbers from 2017, 2018 and 2021 including finals. These are the differences per game
Kicks
13.9, 16.2, 11.4
Handballs
21.8, 18.1, 21.9
Marks
5.3, 4.7, 4.4
Tackles
6.5, 6.3, 4.1
Goal Assists
0.4, 0.5, 0.7
Goals
0.5, 0.5, 0.1
Inside 50's
3.5, 4.9, 3.6
Clearances
6.3, 8.0, 3.3
Frees For
1.4, 2.3, 1.0
Frees Against
1.6, 1.3, 1.4
Contested Possessions
14.77, 16.21, 10.71
Clangers
4.5, 4.2, 4.3
DE%
72.83, 71.95, 74.23
SC
118.9, 129.1, 101.6
So he is down a couple of kicks a game, maybe 1 mark a game, 2 tackles, half a goal, a boatload of clearances and contested possessions. His turnover numbers are down from 2018 but up from 2017, however his overall disposal efficiency is up from both of those seasons.
I wouldn't be too stressed about the kicks and marks. What worries me is the contested possession numbers have drastically fallen, he isn't tackling as much and he is 3-5 clearances down a game. There have been times he is starting out of the square at the CB's and the clearance numbers are down due to less repeat stoppages. I had a quick look at the contested possession percentage league wide and this is what I got as a result.
2017
37.4%
2018
38.9%
2019
39.5%
2020
40.4%
2021
37.9%
So while the overall percentage of contested possessions are down from last year and 2019, they are up from 2017 where he still had 4 more contested possessions per game and a 118 average. Round 1 he had 14 contested which was right around the 2017 number and he had the big score. Add in the 5 tackles which were also closer to the 2017 numbers and he produced his lone score over 110 for the season. If you think he can average that a week I'd probably grab Mitchell because the volume is 100% still there in terms of possessions. I just feel with less stoppages it's hurting how he wins the ball.
Superb analysis Matt, I suppose the increase in uncontested football has made a significant impact on various mids, Cripps suffereing too. There's also the fact Hawthorn are losing & not getting too many favours with the scaling & an increase in points down back.
Probably stick with Brayshaw for now & then reassess in a couple of weeks, can't see Titch becoming too expensive to bring in down the track.
Cripps is another issue altogether. There have been multiple times this year where a soft free kick has been paid against him resulting in a goal to the opposition that has seen his score plummet. That has probably hurt him a couple times this year where he should have hit the ton or had a big score.
He is also down 4 touches a game from 2018 (he was 9th in the AFL) and 3 down from 2019 (17th) to sit at around 25.71 per game which is good for 41st in the league.
This year he is averaging 13.29 contested possessions per game which is good for 11th in the AFL. 2018 he averaged 17.64 (1st) and 2019 he averaged 16.95 (2nd) so he is well down there.
He is 4th in the AFL for clangers per game (5.86). That is up from 2018 where he averaged 4.50 (8th) and 2019's 4.30 (10th) on less disposals. He is up in goal assists fractionally but down on tackles.
Interestingly there are maybe three players that seems to have stayed around their contested possession numbers from 2018/2019 that were in the top handful. Oliver has fractionally improved on both those seasons while Cunnington is right around his 2018/2019 numbers and Boak is the same as 2019 with 14 per game.
Quote from: Bully on May 04, 2021, 10:25:29 AM
Superb analysis Matt, I suppose the increase in uncontested football has made a significant impact on various mids
+1 - A great geeking analysis
I am a real Tich fan and when I watch him play he still seems to be everywhere
But as you point out Matt it is the drop in clearances and tackles that seem to be resulting in "lower" scores
I have him in my team and am happy (just) with the output but can not see him captaining again!
@Matt When I watch at Oliver playing (also in my team) i get concerned at his scoring because he, at times does not seem as prevalent, but so far he is one of the more consistent scorers - is that a result of primarily his contested possession numbers?
Quote from: RoughRed on May 04, 2021, 08:54:02 PM
@Matt When I watch at Oliver playing (also in my team) i get concerned at his scoring because he, at times does not seem as prevalent, but so far he is one of the more consistent scorers - is that a result of primarily his contested possession numbers?
Contested ball numbers have always been supercoach gold. Off the top of my head guys like Fyfe, JPK and Cripps have always had much higher SC to Fantasy ratio and this was off the back of their contested ball numbers. The fact that Oliver is still winning 16 a game is giving him a nice floor. Each contested possession is worth around 4.5 points alone. At 16 a game it gives him a solid 72 point starting base. There is also the scaling that comes into it which will change the value assigned and the total points distributed by the end of the match.
Looking at his AF to SC ratio along with Fyfe, Cripps and JPK's
Oliver
AF
Year Games Average
2016 13 68.9
2017 22 101.6
2018 22 109.1
2019 22 105.9
2020 17 91.7
2021 7 112.0
SC
Year Games Average
2016 13 70.3
2017 22 111.5
2018 22 114.7
2019 22 109.4
2020 17 122.2
2021 7 113.9
Fyfe
AF
Year Games Average
2010 16 68.1
2011 21 98.4
2012 9 89.0
2013 19 97.9
2014 18 102.3
2015 18 105.1
2016 5 98.6
2017 21 97.4
2018 15 102.1
2019 20 105.0
2020 14 75.4
2021 6 91.5
SC
Year Games Average
2010 16 72.6
2011 21 108.0
2012 9 93.2
2013 19 106.5
2014 18 122.3
2015 18 124.3
2016 5 105.4
2017 21 108.8
2018 15 113.9
2019 20 120.0
2020 14 113.2
2021 6 114.0
Cripps
AF
Year Games Average
2014 3 36.3
2015 20 86.2
2016 21 99.5
2017 15 98.3
2018 22 109.3
2019 20 101.5
2020 17 75.3
2021 7 89.7
SC
Year Games Average
2014 3 39.3
2015 20 96.3
2016 21 107.6
2017 15 97.7
2018 22 119.4
2019 20 117.1
2020 17 97.5
2021 7 84.3
JPK
AF
Year Games Average
2008 3 60.7
2009 10 71.8
2010 22 73.7
2011 22 86.5
2012 22 101.7
2013 22 91.0
2014 20 105.1
2015 22 107.5
2016 21 108.2
2017 19 98.0
2018 22 90.1
2019 19 100.3
2020 12 81.7
2021 7 88.9
SC
Year Games Average
2008 3 50.7
2009 10 80.8
2010 22 81.0
2011 22 96.1
2012 22 120.2
2013 22 105.4
2014 20 113.9
2015 22 110.2
2016 21 113.4
2017 19 102.6
2018 22 96.8
2019 19 106.6
2020 12 95.6
2021 7 90.9
Interestingly enough Cripps AF is higher than his SC this year while Oliver is almost 1:1. The Cripps drop will be tied to his CP drop while Oliver being closer to 1:1 is most likely because he has been ineffective in front of goal at important points of the game.
Oliver is averaging about 5 clangers a game but what needs to be taken into account is how the ball is turned over. If it is a contested possession clanger I believe the negative points are lower compared to an uncontested possession clanger. Because Oliver is generally first hands on the ball if he turns it over he isn't being punished the same way Mitchell may be this year.
So for example Shiels wins the clearance for the Hawks, hand passes it to Mitchell who is surrounded by players and gets tackled almost immediately. Mitchell hand passes the ball while being dragged down to not be caught holding the ball and the opposition end up with possession who are then tackled and it results in a ball up. It will count as an uncontested clanger handball which is a maximum penalty under the CD guidelines. There isn't a lot of transparency in the system due to their scaling and they way they categorise certain stats.
Duggan + Campbell OUT
May + A Brayshaw IN
$5.2K Kitty
OR
Duggan + Campbell OUT
Rookie (Murphy/Murray) + Walsh/McCluggage/Mundy IN
$190K Kitty
Mitchell has 14 contested and 4 tackles. Currently on 111
Quote from: Mat0369 on May 09, 2021, 03:06:54 PM
Mitchell has 14 contested and 4 tackles. Currently on 111
Think I missed my opportunity with Titch, hopefully Brayshaw repays the faith.
Sinking feeling now, reckon I've made a serious mistake taking Brayshaw over Titch, almost season defining.
I can feel a serious rage trade coming on.
Tex has to go!
Bolton M/F $498K BE 67 Av 109.3 Round 13 bye
or
Impey Fwd $452K BE 78 AV 98.3 Round 13 bye
Quote from: RoughRed on May 10, 2021, 10:37:30 AM
Tex has to go!
Bolton M/F $498K BE 67 Av 109.3 Round 13 bye
or
Impey Fwd $452K BE 78 AV 98.3 Round 13 bye
Has to be Impey with Bolton out for 2-3weeks
Which defender to complete my defence...
Lloyd 107.4 $558k 34%teams
or
Ridley 104.9 $488k 25% teams (would also give me 70k in the bank too)
Lloyd has been ever consistent and Ridley has had an injury game affected from concussion. I'm just worried with Ridley's few games back he's only score in the 80's or do you bank that he will improve again and start scoring over the ton?
Redman has been taking kickins. Ridley is amazing so I'd probably pick him and the 70k but both picks are great picks
Quote from: WhatsSC??? on May 10, 2021, 08:58:14 PM
Quote from: RoughRed on May 10, 2021, 10:37:30 AM
Tex has to go!
Bolton M/F $498K BE 67 Av 109.3 Round 13 bye
or
Impey Fwd $452K BE 78 AV 98.3 Round 13 bye
Has to be Impey with Bolton out for 2-3weeks
I like simple solutions .. give me more cash too!
Poulter vs RCD
The other option is I double downgrade but the plan was to turn Cripps into a premium mid instead.
Quote from: Mat0369 on May 14, 2021, 06:40:36 PM
Poulter vs RCD
The other option is I double downgrade but the plan was to turn Cripps into a premium mid instead.
Tough call, I'd be tempted to go both but I understand it's time to get Cripps off the field. If in doubt grab the guy with the DPP.
My thinking as well. Plus Flynn playing allows me to get one last price rise
Part 2, Poulter vs Scott on field?
Quote from: Mat0369 on May 14, 2021, 06:52:30 PM
Part 2, Poulter vs Scott on field?
Poulter, don't think Scott will get such an easy run against Port. Think last week he was the beneficiary of some very generous scaling.
In saying that is there any way you could manufacture a loop with Waterman?
Double downgrade to Collier-Dawkins
Or
Jump on Jelly??
Quote from: billnats on May 14, 2021, 08:27:55 PM
Double downgrade to Collier-Dawkins
Or
Jump on Jelly??
Double down, think you would be better off with one of Zerrett, Guthrie, Lyons or Fyfe.
Jelly is OK value but he could be playing forward at any given moment & could get injured.
Quote from: Bully on May 14, 2021, 06:56:07 PM
Poulter, don't think Scott will get such an easy run against Port. Think last week he was the beneficiary of some very generous scaling.
In saying that is there any way you could manufacture a loop with Waterman?
Nope. I have McCreery on my forward bench and no way to swing the DPP. Has to be one or the other.
Quote from: Mat0369 on May 14, 2021, 10:27:58 PM
Quote from: Bully on May 14, 2021, 06:56:07 PM
Poulter, don't think Scott will get such an easy run against Port. Think last week he was the beneficiary of some very generous scaling.
In saying that is there any way you could manufacture a loop with Waterman?
Nope. I have McCreery on my forward bench and no way to swing the DPP. Has to be one or the other.
Poulter would be my pick but Scott has a 5 round average of 60 so toss of a coin.
Powell/Scott to Heeney + one of Macrae/Guthrie/Lyons/Steele
vs.
Powell/Scott to D Martin + Boak
vs.
Powell/Jordon to D Martin + one of Macrae/Guthrie/Lyons/Steele
Quote from: SilverLion on May 20, 2021, 12:33:44 PM
Powell/Scott to Heeney + one of Macrae/Guthrie/Lyons/Steele
vs.
Powell/Scott to D Martin + Boak
vs.
Powell/Jordon to D Martin + one of Macrae/Guthrie/Lyons/Steele
Dusty + Macrae
welcome back Thursday night teams ::)
Zorko +$47,800 vs Hawkins + $74,900
I’ve gone with Zorko
Quote from: Mat0369 on May 21, 2021, 07:11:04 PM
Zorko +$47,800 vs Hawkins + $74,900
Here's another one
Poulter vs Scott vs Waterman
Quote from: Mat0369 on May 21, 2021, 10:39:59 PM
Here's another one
Poulter vs Scott vs Waterman
Have the same issue
Thinking Waterman/Poulter..
Still not sure haha
Need a mid upgrade.
I’ve already used Trade 1 to get Caleb Daniel.
Trade 2 thinking:
- Bont: GUN. But expensive. Plus I also have Macrae and Daniel
- Steele: looks underpriced and pretty consistent
- Josh Kelly: looks to have turned the corner with scoring as Giants find form?
Thoughts?
Quote from: Blues Blues Blues on May 22, 2021, 07:53:50 AM
Need a mid upgrade.
I’ve already used Trade 1 to get Caleb Daniel.
Trade 2 thinking:
- Bont: GUN. But expensive. Plus I also have Macrae and Daniel
- Steele: looks underpriced and pretty consistent
- Josh Kelly: looks to have turned the corner with scoring as Giants find form?
Thoughts?
Bont > Steele. Both great options. Steele more value
Does Kelly go to HFF with Greene out??
Quote from: B. on May 22, 2021, 07:27:28 AM
Have the same issue
Thinking Waterman/Poulter..
Still not sure haha
Waterman has the best matchup and will be seeing some midfield time which is tempting. Collingwood have Port so I'm thinking Poulter to the bench. Scott has the Saints so it's looking like a soft match up there as well
Quote from: Blues Blues Blues on May 22, 2021, 07:53:50 AM
Need a mid upgrade.
I’ve already used Trade 1 to get Caleb Daniel.
Trade 2 thinking:
- Bont: GUN. But expensive. Plus I also have Macrae and Daniel
- Steele: looks underpriced and pretty consistent
- Josh Kelly: looks to have turned the corner with scoring as Giants find form?
Thoughts?
Now is probably the time to start looking at bye structure. Steele is the best value option so he would be my choice. I'd rank the three options in order of Steele, Bont, Kelly but take your byes into account and grab the one that suits them the best
And I started Scott. Between that and not owning Oliver it's not looking like a great week so far
Already have Heppell and Merrett do I get Parish or go with Michell
Quote from: whynot102 on May 27, 2021, 09:00:04 PM
Already have Heppell and Merrett do I get Parish or go with Michell
Have to go Titch. you'll be punished in the round 13 bye round.
Titchell for M7... good price despite still having a reasonably high BE. Good byes for me (albeit being next week)
OR
Heeney for F5... tasty price, low BE so I get on now or never. Pretty crap bye for my structure.
Quote from: billnats on May 28, 2021, 03:37:54 PM
Titchell for M7... good price despite still having a reasonably high BE. Good byes for me (albeit being next week)
OR
Heeney for F5... tasty price, low BE so I get on now or never. Pretty crap bye for my structure.
Can't see another bargain priced forward on the horizon so you need to assess whether you can fully upgrade with the cash you have or whether you need to opt for a couple of cheapies.
Mitchell, Walsh or Fyfe
Fyfe is having issues with his foot. Walsh has been more consistent than Mitchell so I'd go with Walsh
I need to field two of the following
Jones
Highmore
Madden
Murphy
Which two?
Quote from: Mat0369 on May 28, 2021, 07:28:59 PM
I need to field two of the following
Jones
Highmore
Madden
Murphy
Which two?
Jones & Highmore
Murphy and Highmore
Quote from: Bully on May 28, 2021, 07:36:46 PM
Quote from: Mat0369 on May 28, 2021, 07:28:59 PM
I need to field two of the following
Jones
Highmore
Madden
Murphy
Which two?
Jones & Highmore
Actually ended up making a change and keeping Kosi. So it's two of Jones, Highmore, Kosi and Murphy. Would you field Kosi over Highmore/Jones.
Quote from: Mat0369 on May 28, 2021, 07:44:00 PM
Actually ended up making a change and keeping Kosi. So it's two of Jones, Highmore, Kosi and Murphy. Would you field Kosi over Highmore/Jones.
Probably not, Jones tired a little bit last week but was on track for a 60. I'd put that down to a lack of match fitness, the very reason I wouldn't play Murphy.
Quote from: Bully on May 28, 2021, 07:51:39 PM
Quote from: Mat0369 on May 28, 2021, 07:44:00 PM
Actually ended up making a change and keeping Kosi. So it's two of Jones, Highmore, Kosi and Murphy. Would you field Kosi over Highmore/Jones.
Probably not, Jones tired a little bit last week but was on track for a 60. I'd put that down to a lack of match fitness, the very reason I wouldn't play Murphy.
Any chance of looping at all. I am looping Jones and Murphy.
Nope. I have 4 prems and those 4 rookies down back
Obviously Whitfield is a great pick and he could fill my D6 but that would mean leaving Laird at M7 and only getting one more premium mid.
Or swing Laird back to D6 and get 2 more premium mids at M7 and 8.
Would you pass on Whitfield to bring in 2 more premium Mids?
Think Guthrie/Bont and Lyons are too far out of reach now so what value picks are the best in the mids out of Duncan/Fyfe/Boak/Kelly/Petracca?
Quote from: B. on June 03, 2021, 10:27:01 AM
Obviously Whitfield is a great pick and he could fill my D6 but that would mean leaving Laird at M7 and only getting one more premium mid.
Or swing Laird back to D6 and get 2 more premium mids at M7 and 8.
Would you pass on Whitfield to bring in 2 more premium Mids?
Think Guthrie/Bont and Lyons are too far out of reach now so what value picks are the best in the mids out of Duncan/Fyfe/Boak/Kelly/Petracca?
Whitfield capable of matching those mids and has a nice draw, at a tick over 500k I reckon there's solid value. Neale another wait and see.
Final Defender (unless I get lucky and trade up May)
Who should it be?
Mills? Lloyd? Whitfield?
Mills playing pure mid.
Lloyd is, well, Lloyd.
Whitfield real value at 500k, potential to match it with the premo mids
I suppose I should mention Hurn at 400k also :o
Laird. Docherty. Stewart. Ridley. May. Rookies…
Oliver. Macrae. Guthrie. Steele. Walsh. Jordan. Poulter. RCD. Bench Rookies…
Grundy. Gawn. CCJ
Zorko. Ziebell. Martin. Impey. Daniher. Heeney. Bench Rookies x2
$410k bank 13 trades
Hurn's bye might be moved which is good in a way but now that includes Dusty, Short & CCJ. Might be better to grab Whitfield for that round 14 cover.
Hurn a great buy for mine, grabbed him myself
CCJ or Bianco
Boak or Kelly?
Whitfield or Hall?
Looking at RCD, Rowe and Jordan out for Reeves and 2 of the above?
Currently leaning towards Kelly and Whitfield.
Quote from: Thewizz71 on June 10, 2021, 02:01:20 PM
Boak or Kelly?
Whitfield or Hall?
Looking at RCD, Rowe and Jordan out for Reeves and 2 of the above?
Currently leaning towards Kelly and Whitfield.
Whitfield and Kelly for mine
How about Hall v Hawkins?
Quote from: Blues Blues Blues on June 10, 2021, 02:50:56 PM
Quote from: Thewizz71 on June 10, 2021, 02:01:20 PM
Boak or Kelly?
Whitfield or Hall?
Looking at RCD, Rowe and Jordan out for Reeves and 2 of the above?
Currently leaning towards Kelly and Whitfield.
Whitfield and Kelly for mine
How about Hall v Hawkins?
Hall - just picking it off half back but injury risk.
Whitfield and Boak. I’ve gone those 2
I like Hawkins.
I grabbed Hawkins. I prefer him over Hall.
Zach Merrett v Sam Walsh?
Greene v Langford?
Quote from: Samsturmfels on June 19, 2021, 12:05:12 PM
Greene v Langford?
Langford intrigues me, won't go near Greene as I have some history of being burnt.
Quote from: Bully on June 19, 2021, 12:47:50 PM
Quote from: Samsturmfels on June 19, 2021, 12:05:12 PM
Greene v Langford?
Langford intrigues me, won't go near Greene as I have some history of being burnt.
I'm looking at Langford this week.
Trade Heeney or Poulter?
Quote from: Thewizz71 on June 19, 2021, 03:28:43 PM
Quote from: Bully on June 19, 2021, 12:47:50 PM
Quote from: Samsturmfels on June 19, 2021, 12:05:12 PM
Greene v Langford?
Langford intrigues me, won't go near Greene as I have some history of being burnt.
I'm looking at Langford this week.
Trade Heeney or Poulter?
Poulter is a bit of a butcher so I'd punt him first. Heeney would be ideal to loop with CCJ, reckon you can avoid the nasties by doing it this way.