http://www.afl.com.au/news/2017-12-14/major-changes-to-afl-match-review-panel
Big changes announced to MRP with one man review panel the biggest change.
Other changes
The AFL has also scrapped the one-match discount previously offered for early pleas, with clubs that elect to challenge MRP decisions now risking a $10,000 cost that will be included in their soft football department cap.
Three low-level offences in a season will no longer result in an automatic one-match suspension, with a fine now applicable for the third offence.
Cases referred directly to the Tribunal will attract at least a three-week suspension save for exceptional circumstances.
Staging will now attract a fine for a first offence.
Automatic loading for players with bad records has been scrapped.
Fines for low-level offences will increase from $2000 to $3000 for first offences, $3000 to $5000 for second offences and $5000 to $8000 for third offences.
Some great ideas here but will reserve judgement until after 2018 season. Will we see more decisions challenged without the risk of adding?
Yeah it all sounds great in theory but we will see how it goes.
The staging one was apparently already a rule. They just never enforce it
The three fines for low level offences change is pretty significant too, especially for the Brownlow.
Also the loading for previous bad records. Not sure whether I agree with that one or not. May be handy for Toby Greene though.
Are we going to see a change in the impact to head rule going by this comment from Hocking on Sen
Hocking on whether too much weight has been given to the impact of incidents: "A return to intent would be a far better way to go about it, and that will be part of my influence coming from a club"
This would be good if it was consistently applied.
Quote from: Ringo on December 14, 2017, 06:41:04 PM
Are we going to see a change in the impact to head rule going by this comment from Hocking on Sen
Hocking on whether too much weight has been given to the impact of incidents: "A return to intent would be a far better way to go about it, and that will be part of my influence coming from a club"
This would be good if it was consistently applied.
hope it moves this way.
teams will be pissed at players referred directly to tribunal. 3wk min will hurt.
I love the loading being removed. Why should you be punished for something you did in the past for your current report.
Overall, I think these are good changes.
Quote from: valkorum on December 16, 2017, 12:24:23 PM
I love the loading being removed. Why should you be punished for something you did in the past for your current report.
Overall, I think these are good changes.
because it shows you're a tosser. I liked the loading- it's like extra punishment because clearly you didn't learn from being a showerhead last time.
Quote from: Ziplock on December 20, 2017, 01:09:35 AM
Quote from: valkorum on December 16, 2017, 12:24:23 PM
I love the loading being removed. Why should you be punished for something you did in the past for your current report.
Overall, I think these are good changes.
because it shows you're a tosser. I liked the loading- it's like extra punishment because clearly you didn't learn from being a showerhead last time.
haha I initially read that as you calling Valk a tosser. I'm thinking, that's a bit harsh, before I read it again ;)
Quote from: Rusty00 on December 20, 2017, 11:24:38 AM
Quote from: Ziplock on December 20, 2017, 01:09:35 AM
Quote from: valkorum on December 16, 2017, 12:24:23 PM
I love the loading being removed. Why should you be punished for something you did in the past for your current report.
Overall, I think these are good changes.
because it shows you're a tosser. I liked the loading- it's like extra punishment because clearly you didn't learn from being a showerhead last time.
haha I initially read that as you calling Valk a tosser. I'm thinking, that's a bit harsh, before I read it again ;)
hahaha, well that's a miscommunication :P
Quote from: Ziplock on December 20, 2017, 01:09:35 AM
Quote from: valkorum on December 16, 2017, 12:24:23 PM
I love the loading being removed. Why should you be punished for something you did in the past for your current report.
Overall, I think these are good changes.
because it shows you're a tosser. I liked the loading- it's like extra punishment because clearly you didn't learn from being a showerhead last time.
The loading was ok for players that showed a pattern of being a grub (ie Toby Green) but it was bs when it came to 3 fines resulting in a report. Considering fines are handed out for doing next to nothing, I couldn't care less if someone did a jumper punch or got in a wrestle every week, it's not worth missing a game
Quote from: Ziplock on December 20, 2017, 01:09:35 AM
Quote from: valkorum on December 16, 2017, 12:24:23 PM
I love the loading being removed. Why should you be punished for something you did in the past for your current report.
Overall, I think these are good changes.
because it shows you're a tosser. I liked the loading- it's like extra punishment because clearly you didn't learn from being a showerhead last time.
So being a tosser gives you extra penalties?
Example
Mr Nice Guy jumper punches a guy exactly the same way as Toby Green does
Mr nice guy gets 1 week
Toby gets 2 weeks cos he is a tosser
That's a terrible way to adjudicate.
But that’s what happens in real life, so why should footy be any different?
Quote from: valkorum on December 28, 2017, 11:18:07 PM
Quote from: Ziplock on December 20, 2017, 01:09:35 AM
Quote from: valkorum on December 16, 2017, 12:24:23 PM
I love the loading being removed. Why should you be punished for something you did in the past for your current report.
Overall, I think these are good changes.
because it shows you're a tosser. I liked the loading- it's like extra punishment because clearly you didn't learn from being a showerhead last time.
So being a tosser gives you extra penalties?
Example
Mr Nice Guy jumper punches a guy exactly the same way as Toby Green does
Mr nice guy gets 1 week
Toby gets 2 weeks cos he is a tosser
That's a terrible way to adjudicate.
Mr nice guy will get 2 weeks next time because he clearly hasn't learnt anything
what's the use of giving people the same penalty if they're repeat offenders? what do they learn?
+1
Maybe wipe slate clean for start of season and then take seasons record into account for subsequent offences. As was said earlier why should a minor offence say Rd 1 draw a different penalty for someone with a clean record.
Anyway my personal opinion. and you can disagree, serial offenders usually attract more attention from umpires anyway,
^
it's not actually because they're a tosser, it's because the previously imposed penalty failed to stamp out their dangerous behaviour so the logic is that increasing the penalty will increase the motivation to not be a twat.
Quote from: Ringo on December 29, 2017, 09:18:31 PM
Maybe wipe slate clean for start of season and then take seasons record into account for subsequent offences. As was said earlier why should a minor offence say Rd 1 draw a different penalty for someone with a clean record.
Anyway my personal opinion. and you can disagree, serial offenders usually attract more attention from umpires anyway,
Agreed. Lindsay Thomas comes to mind.