anyone wanna give this a go i'm interested
B: Toovey, Frost, Brown
HB: Langdon, Reid, Williams
C: Sidebottom, Treloar, Adams
HF: Elliott, Moore, Howe
F: Swan, Cloke, De Goey
R: Grundy, Pendlebury, Greenwood
Int: Scharenberg, Aish, Crisp, Varcoe
EMG - Witts, Marsh, Broomhead, Caff, Oxley, Blair, Goldsack, Maynard, Fas
Absolutely in love with this team. Will go places very very soon.
The Caff will be fighting his way into the starting 22. Keep an eye on him. 8)
Quote from: _wato on October 23, 2015, 11:23:17 AM
B: Toovey, Frost, Brown
HB: Langdon, Reid, Williams
C: Sidebottom, Treloar, Adams
HF: Elliott, Moore, Howe
F: Swan, Cloke, De Goey
R: Grundy, Pendlebury, Greenwood
Int: Scharenberg, Aish, Crisp, Varcoe
EMG - Witts, Marsh, Broomhead, Caff, Oxley, Blair, Goldsack, Maynard, Fas
Absolutely in love with this team. Will go places very very soon.
This was my exact thoughts although I had Reid on the bench (Frost CHB, Brown FB) and Shaz on field, same thing.
I do think Aish will have to work his way into the team over one of Blair (defensive contribution), Ramsay (Barely lost when he played, defensive star), Caff (Tagged) and Broomhead (more of an offensive weapon) and I think that spot will be rotated based on opposition.
Oxley will be fighting it out with Shaz for sure but Shaz is first choice until Pre season shows more.
Early days, we will know a lot more about these youngsters come March :)
Pretty pumped!
Will be pushing for finals next year if everyone is fit. May not get there but still should see sustained success in the next few years
Can't really see any weaknesses in that side
Last time I checked you had 100 midfielders and little else, make sure you recruit more midfielders though!
Quote from: tbagrocks on October 23, 2015, 09:08:41 PM
Last time I checked you had 100 midfielders and little else, make sure you recruit more midfielders though!
I agree mate. A full back, Physio and a drink waiter for Big Trav would finish off the polish ;D
Quote from: T Dog on October 23, 2015, 09:11:10 PM
Quote from: tbagrocks on October 23, 2015, 09:08:41 PM
Last time I checked you had 100 midfielders and little else, make sure you recruit more midfielders though!
I agree mate. A full back, Physio and a drink waiter for Big Trav would finish off the polish ;D
How are those scientists going with those kicking boots?
Quote from: tbagrocks on October 23, 2015, 09:13:27 PM
Quote from: T Dog on October 23, 2015, 09:11:10 PM
Quote from: tbagrocks on October 23, 2015, 09:08:41 PM
Last time I checked you had 100 midfielders and little else, make sure you recruit more midfielders though!
I agree mate. A full back, Physio and a drink waiter for Big Trav would finish off the polish ;D
How are those scientists going with those kicking boots?
European geniuses quietly converting Agueros boots for Trav.
Quote from: _wato on October 23, 2015, 11:23:17 AM
B: Toovey, Frost, Brown
HB: Langdon, Reid, Williams
C: Sidebottom, Treloar, Adams
HF: Elliott, Moore, Howe
F: Swan, Cloke, De Goey
R: Grundy, Pendlebury, Greenwood
Int: Scharenberg, Aish, Crisp, Varcoe
EMG - Witts, Marsh, Broomhead, Caff, Oxley, Blair, Goldsack, Maynard, Fas
Absolutely in love with this team. Will go places very very soon.
Fasolo is in our best 22. he manage 27 goals this year. Blair always seems to get games as well
If you look at the squad, there is 11 players who have played seniors this season, who won't be in the best starting 22, so barring massive injury hits, no excuse for not making finals. 33 players to start with
Quote from: Peter on October 28, 2015, 05:31:22 AM
If you look at the squad, there is 11 players who have played seniors this season, who won't be in the best starting 22, so barring massive injury hits, no excuse for not making finals. 33 players to start with
Love the optimism but let's be realistic here.
Anyone that puts Collingwood in their top 8 is asking for disappointment. Port and Geelong are near certainties for the 8 so naturally 2 of the top 8 from last year (presumably Adelaide will be one) need to fall out of the 8. If Collingwood were to make it, 3 would need to fall out of the previous top 8 and I find that highly unlikely given nothing significant has happened to the top teams.
We are a very young team capable of a few big scalps, but it is surely going to be a struggle for the young team to remain consistent all throughout the year. At very best we enter the last few rounds with a small chance of slipping into 8th but again, things would need to go very right for us to be in that position.
Having a look at our draw, I see us ending with 12 wins +-1, which unfortunately will likely see us miss just again. I still think 2017 is when we will make finals with 2018 winning a final(s) and 2019/2020 being our premiership window.
they will be fighting for a spot in the 8 crazy if u deny that
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on November 06, 2015, 04:30:05 PM
they will be fighting for a spot in the 8 crazy if u deny that
top 5 8)
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on November 06, 2015, 04:30:05 PM
they will be fighting for a spot in the 8 crazy if u deny that
Not even sure if you read what I wrote. Small chance
Quote from: Spite on November 07, 2015, 08:30:36 PM
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on November 06, 2015, 04:30:05 PM
they will be fighting for a spot in the 8 crazy if u deny that
Not even sure if you read what I wrote. Small chance
actually i did
you imply you don't think they can make the 8 and i disagree
Pies just need a small incremental improvement to win 5 more games than last year.
Trading has been top notch.
Top 5 potential for sure as Cats and Tiges drop off.
Quote from: T Dog on November 08, 2015, 09:46:13 PM
Pies just need a small incremental improvement to win 5 more games than last year.
Trading has been top notch.
Top 5 potential for sure as Cats and Tiges drop off.
You would be the only one in football predicting a Cats
drop off next year mate ;)
Quote from: Grufflez on November 08, 2015, 11:12:55 PM
Quote from: T Dog on November 08, 2015, 09:46:13 PM
Pies just need a small incremental improvement to win 5 more games than last year.
Trading has been top notch.
Top 5 potential for sure as Cats and Tiges drop off.
You would be the only one in football predicting a Cats drop off next year mate ;)
;D I must be the only one who has looked at their backline
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on November 08, 2015, 02:59:04 AM
Quote from: Spite on November 07, 2015, 08:30:36 PM
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on November 06, 2015, 04:30:05 PM
they will be fighting for a spot in the 8 crazy if u deny that
Not even sure if you read what I wrote. Small chance
actually i did
you imply you don't think they can make the 8 and i disagree
Do you not think Cats or Port are ahead of us? And if you do (like most others), which 3 teams will drop out of the 8?
Spite speaks truth, A lot of over optimistic Collingwood supporters. Those players on paper may look good to your own supporters... But you are basing that on the potential of these young players, not what they can actually do now. Looking at that side, as it currently stands and on ability currently. Its very average and will struggle to make the 8. Putting them down for 9-11 at this stage.
Over on the BF boards and on FF a lot of collingwood supporters are slotting Aish straight into the 22. I don't see how Aish comes straight in, especially in front of players like Broomhead, Blair and Oxley who are more versatile. Is everyone just putting him in because of hype?
Quote from: eg6914 on November 22, 2015, 05:19:28 PM
Over on the BF boards and on FF a lot of collingwood supporters are slotting Aish straight into the 22. I don't see how Aish comes straight in, especially in front of players like Broomhead, Blair and Oxley who are more versatile. Is everyone just putting him in because of hype?
Aish is a mid?..that would do it 8)
Quote from: eg6914 on November 22, 2015, 05:19:28 PM
Over on the BF boards and on FF a lot of collingwood supporters are slotting Aish straight into the 22. I don't see how Aish comes straight in, especially in front of players like Broomhead, Blair and Oxley who are more versatile. Is everyone just putting him in because of hype?
Quote from: Spite on October 23, 2015, 01:31:47 PM
I do think Aish will have to work his way into the team over one of Blair (defensive contribution), Ramsay (Barely lost when he played, defensive star), Caff (Tagged) and Broomhead (more of an offensive weapon) and I think that spot will be rotated based on opposition.
Anyone think Jack Crisp will struggle for Mid time next season? With the likes of Greenwood, Trelour and others coming into the team?
Quote from: iZander on November 30, 2015, 10:31:06 PM
Anyone think Jack Crisp will struggle for Mid time next season? With the likes of Greenwood, Trelour and others coming into the team?
I rate Crisp pretty highly, finished 3rd in the b&f. I would play him in the mids over Greenwood. Also plays a run with role, though not as much of a tight lock down as Macaffer who could come back.
For all the good mids though I think we really need to develop some into half fwds/backs. Adams, Crisp, Treloar, Pendles, Aish, Greenwood, Macaffer, De Goey, Sidebottom are all pretty much mid only players at the moment and not enough room for them all.
Crisp is handy as a forward
Hope Macaffer doesnt get a game. Only plays one role and has been overtaken by Crisp who can play more than that role.
Mid only players I would have would be Treloar, Pendlebury, Greenwood and Adams because De Goey/Sidebottom/Aish can all play up forward. We already have enough defenders.
And quickly, what are our thoughts on Treloar next year as a fantasy prospect? I think he could definitely be relevant.
Quote from: _wato on December 06, 2015, 11:18:17 PM
Hope Macaffer doesnt get a game. Only plays one role and has been overtaken by Crisp who can play more than that role.
Mid only players I would have would be Treloar, Pendlebury, Greenwood and Adams because De Goey/Sidebottom/Aish can all play up forward. We already have enough defenders.
And quickly, what are our thoughts on Treloar next year as a fantasy prospect? I think he could definitely be relevant.
will obviously be relevant but i am scared off by premos at new clubs
Quote from: _wato on December 06, 2015, 11:18:17 PM
Hope Macaffer doesnt get a game. Only plays one role and has been overtaken by Crisp who can play more than that role.
Mid only players I would have would be Treloar, Pendlebury, Greenwood and Adams because De Goey/Sidebottom/Aish can all play up forward. We already have enough defenders.
And quickly, what are our thoughts on Treloar next year as a fantasy prospect? I think he could definitely be relevant.
Not worth a starting spot, but there's potential for a late upgrade. I still think there will be 10-12 others ahead of him next year though
I'm coping some slack over picking grundy as my second ruckman. I was just wondering your thoughts!
Quote from: Money Shot on December 07, 2015, 07:57:12 AM
I'm coping some slack over picking grundy as my second ruckman. I was just wondering your thoughts!
Its a fair point MS. Why isn't he your No1 ? a fair waste at 2 .
The way i can see us setting up next year
B: Frost, Brown, Varcoe
Frost to play the role that Maxwell did but better as third tall, Varcoe to take best small.
HB: Williams, Reid, Langdon
Reid to go backline allows for more flexibility through ruck and forward but ill get to that.
C: Crisp, Pendlebury, Sidebottom
Crisp to tag and run off and i think Aish may be helped into the side with Buckley looking to play both pendles and sidey off HB line as well as midfield.
HF: Howe, Moore, Swan
Howe straight in, Moore to really knuckle down at CHF and play 10% of Total game time in ruck. Swan may struggle for midfield time and i can see him being a more permanent forward.
FF: White, Cloke, Elliot
If white can get really fit then i see him in the side he can play 10% ruck time and then rome up the ground where he belongs. Hes a hit up player getting the ball at the centre or closer to half back like reiwaldt but he needs to lift work rate.
R: Grundy, Greenwood, Treloar
Grundy is our no.1 ruck, just for his effort around the ground puts him ahead of witts.
Bench From:
Adams - Probably plays every game
Broomhead - Plays every game
De Goey - Him and swan will compete a lot
Aish - not sure where he slots in but buckley rates him
Oxley - Where will he play?
Fasolo - Hes in my 22 if he gets fit and plays midfield.
Witts - If white underperforms early witts will play 2nd ruck but be prodominatly a forward with marking ability
Goldsack - Frost has his spot at this stage but itll be tight come round one.
Toovey&Ramsay - Both these guys oxley and varcoe fighting for two Defensive positions.
Marsh - Also could take White's spot and swing him with Reid which i really like the sound of...
Macaffer - Will have a more forward defensive role, can also play as an attacking forward. He also could take Over Jesse White, but that means Moore has to play a lot of ruck time.
Blair - Dont like the wee man, personally not in my team but bucks loves him.
Not a Pies man by any means, but surely Jesse White gets the flick in favour of somebody else, even if it means a slight shift in structure or moving a few bloke around?
The other 5 (with White out) making up the team for me would be Adams, De Goey, Toovey, Fas and the last spot is there for the taking, but I'd chuck Broomhead in, dude is really good.
No SHAG :'(
Quote from: Nige on December 10, 2015, 07:16:31 PM
Not a Pies man by any means, but surely Jesse White gets the flick in favour of somebody else, even if it means a slight shift in structure or moving a few bloke around?
The other 5 (with White out) making up the team for me would be Adams, De Goey, Toovey, Fas and the last spot is there for the taking, but I'd chuck Broomhead in, dude is really good.
Problem there is if you Take white out when Grundy rests it will be on the bench and Howe becomes second target which is a real problem for the pies. Luckily Fasolo, Elliot, De Goey can all mark. + if the other team has a small fwd line Reid can always be swung for Howe
So their are a lot of options for the pies
Quote from: tbagrocks on December 10, 2015, 08:17:05 PM
No SHAG :'(
Quote from: fasttrack13 on December 29, 2015, 01:20:22 AM
Quote from: Nige on December 10, 2015, 07:16:31 PM
Not a Pies man by any means, but surely Jesse White gets the flick in favour of somebody else, even if it means a slight shift in structure or moving a few bloke around?
The other 5 (with White out) making up the team for me would be Adams, De Goey, Toovey, Fas and the last spot is there for the taking, but I'd chuck Broomhead in, dude is really good.
Problem there is if you Take white out when Grundy rests it will be on the bench and Howe becomes second target which is a real problem for the pies. Luckily Fasolo, Elliot, De Goey can all mark. + if the other team has a small fwd line Reid can always be swung for Howe
So their are a lot of options for the pies Quote from: tbagrocks on December 10, 2015, 08:17:05 PM
No SHAG :'(
I think Grundy plays best when he plays 75-80% game time in the ruck 10% forward, 10-15% bench. Unfortunately for Witts so does he, and he isn't damging enough for a forward so I think he misses out.
IF Reid is fit I don't see a spot for White, Moore will play CHF/Back up ruck. Howe as third forward, second when Grundy on is on the bench, but Grundy will also have stints forward. They can also swing Reid forward for short patches each game insuring the pies always have Cloke, Howe and one of Moore/Grundy/Reid as forward targets. Elliot, Swan, De Goey, Crisp, Sidebottom and Broomhead/Fasolo/Blair (those last three all fighting for 1-2 spots in the team), fill the rest of the spots forward.
The thing about omitting White and Blair from the team is that it takes away 16% of their goalkicking based on 2015 stats. I don't particularly like them either but Treloar/Howe/Aish will struggle to cover that loss of scoring and I don't really see any others on the list who look set to lift their goal average significantly.
This season they scored 13 goals a game while conceding 14. I don't think their defence has improved any so they probably need 22 more goals to be legit finals contenders. It's going to be difficult.
Pendlebury and Swan to play more fwd apparently. Bux has stated he wants Pendles to be more of a goal scorer.
.......And then the bohemouth of Big Trav will score HUGE 8)
Obviously means keeping an eye on Pendles if picking him as a premium mid.
Its the whole team picture that needs considering not the one for one replacement with recruiting that has occurred.
May be a little one eyed but Go Pies Go Hard
Quote from: T Dog on December 29, 2015, 06:08:12 PM
Pendlebury and Swan to play more fwd apparently. Bux has stated he wants Pendles to be more of a goal scorer.
.......And then the bohemouth of Big Trav will score HUGE 8)
Obviously means keeping an eye on Pendles if picking him as a premium mid.
Its the whole team picture that needs considering not the one for one replacement with recruiting that has occurred.
May be a little one eyed but Go Pies Go Hard
Where did you hear this about Pendles?
Quote from: Money Shot on December 29, 2015, 07:14:19 PM
Quote from: T Dog on December 29, 2015, 06:08:12 PM
Pendlebury and Swan to play more fwd apparently. Bux has stated he wants Pendles to be more of a goal scorer.
.......And then the bohemouth of Big Trav will score HUGE 8)
Obviously means keeping an eye on Pendles if picking him as a premium mid.
Its the whole team picture that needs considering not the one for one replacement with recruiting that has occurred.
May be a little one eyed but Go Pies Go Hard
Where did you hear this about Pendles?
footy wire initially, then from a chronic member mate who knows this stuff. :-\
if i can find the link will post it.
Quote from: T Dog on December 29, 2015, 08:52:41 PM
Quote from: Money Shot on December 29, 2015, 07:14:19 PM
Quote from: T Dog on December 29, 2015, 06:08:12 PM
Pendlebury and Swan to play more fwd apparently. Bux has stated he wants Pendles to be more of a goal scorer.
.......And then the bohemouth of Big Trav will score HUGE 8)
Obviously means keeping an eye on Pendles if picking him as a premium mid.
Its the whole team picture that needs considering not the one for one replacement with recruiting that has occurred.
May be a little one eyed but Go Pies Go Hard
Where did you hear this about Pendles?
footy wire initially, then from a chronic member mate who knows this stuff. :-\
if i can find the link will post it.
Not good for SC :(
In comes Sloane I guess ....
This will be my first season starting without pendles :o
Pendles going forward a bit makes sense with Aish and Treloar coming in and Elliot wants to play midfield more
More time forward = more contested marks and goals and forward defensive tackles.
Pendles will still go in the guts and rack em up with gusto after a rest forward.