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Title: Trading Max Gawn Out
Post by: alex1234 on August 07, 2020, 10:08:07 AM
I am of the impression that Max Gawns upper shoulder injury is going to significantly reduce his scoring ability across the next 2-3 weeks and maybe even more

I started Gawn and so i have had the wonderful experience watching him as my captain average 145 for the last 10 weeks but now i feel it’s done

Is it so wrong the idea of Gawn averaging 100-110 for the next 8 weeks with a shoulder injury being not worth his current $722k price and thus trading him out before he drops again will significantly increase my points output - especially with the best 18 approach for more than half the rest of season


My initial thought is draper - with the spare cash from the trade i have being used to bring in petracca and fyfe in the same round as trading gawn out

have I lost the plot???
Title: Re: Trading Max Gawn Out
Post by: bkimm32 on August 07, 2020, 10:41:44 AM
Short answer - yes, you’ve lost the plot.
Title: Re: Trading Max Gawn Out
Post by: alex1234 on August 07, 2020, 10:44:26 AM
Quote from: bkimm32 on August 07, 2020, 10:41:44 AM
Short answer - yes, you’ve lost the plot.


This is comforting
Title: Re: Trading Max Gawn Out
Post by: bkimm32 on August 07, 2020, 10:48:46 AM
Quote from: alex1234 on August 07, 2020, 10:44:26 AM
Quote from: bkimm32 on August 07, 2020, 10:41:44 AM
Short answer - yes, you’ve lost the plot.


This is comforting
It has some merit, I suppose.

I just think while he might have a few down weeks at 100 or so (he’s just as likely to come out with a 150 this round) he’s going to get back to consistent 130+ after a month.

Meanwhile, assuming you make this trade, you’ll have a borderline best 22 ruckman on field, who’s played one game for a 70. You would have used 2 trades just to make 300k in the absolute best possible scenario. Just seems incredibly risky to me   
Title: Re: Trading Max Gawn Out
Post by: RaisyDaisy on August 07, 2020, 11:30:18 AM
And what's the plan in 2-3 weeks time when Gawn is healed and pumping out that 145avg? (Assuming he will even drop in ppg in the first place which is no guarantee at all)

Draper to Gawn would be impossible

Draper could get managed too

Title: Re: Trading Max Gawn Out
Post by: Wanderer on August 07, 2020, 11:40:49 AM
If you have heaps of trades left, then it's worth a punt to trade Gawn out, but not for Draper. You would need to trade out to a ruck that has rock solid JS, can still pump out decent scores and who has had his bye already. NicNat the only one I can see, and with NicNat comes the usual risks.
Title: Re: Trading Max Gawn Out
Post by: alex1234 on August 07, 2020, 11:49:58 AM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on August 07, 2020, 11:30:18 AM
And what's the plan in 2-3 weeks time when Gawn is healed and pumping out that 145avg? (Assuming he will even drop in ppg in the first place which is no guarantee at all)

Draper to Gawn would be impossible

Draper could get managed too


Draper not being cemented in best 22 is defiantly an issue, but i think the ideal of him being managed is as high as gawn being managed and i don’t have any r3 (102k)

Ideally if money permitted i’d go back up to a quality ruckman but i’ve accepted the fact that it won’t be gawn as his price will be too high

At the minute it’s either have gawn and an f6 and a d6 as rookies

or trade gawn out and have a full squad with draper

the cash flow issues are quite real at the minute
Title: Re: Trading Max Gawn Out
Post by: ants on August 08, 2020, 05:57:12 PM
Gawn to Marshall?
Title: Re: Trading Max Gawn Out
Post by: timtim on August 08, 2020, 05:59:45 PM
Thoughts on this...

Gawn â€"> Goldy

Gawn BE is 240 and expected to lose $50k over next two weeks while Goldy May hold steady/make 10-20K

You can cover a donut, make ~70K, and buy a few weeks too see just how much impact Gawn’s shoulder niggle has?
Title: Re: Trading Max Gawn Out
Post by: justaverage on August 08, 2020, 08:14:49 PM
If you have Draper I don't think he will be dropped, hold Max and assess the situation next week
Title: Re: Trading Max Gawn Out
Post by: crowls on August 08, 2020, 08:34:31 PM
Dont start gawn,  cry for 6 weeks
bring in Ladhams for 350k for two 120+ scores
move him to fwds and start draper and finally laugh now Gawn is rested.   
Took bloody long enough.    Need a couple of 80's from Gawn and I can go Ladhams to Gawn before the finals.
Title: Re: Trading Max Gawn Out
Post by: timtim on August 08, 2020, 08:44:57 PM
Quote from: crowls on August 08, 2020, 08:34:31 PM
Dont start gawn,  cry for 6 weeks
bring in Ladhams for 350k for two 120+ scores
move him to fwds and start draper and finally laugh now Gawn is rested.   
Took bloody long enough.    Need a couple of 80's from Gawn and I can go Ladhams to Gawn before the finals.

This. Love it

I just traded out Gawn to Oscar Mcinerney. No Smartin or Archie smith for next 5-6 weeks. Rucked solo last two games averaged 105/110-ish

Gawn BE 240 so he’ll lose a ton of cash once he’s back. With a bit of luck I’ll be able to go Oscar to Gawn

YOLO haha

Title: Re: Trading Max Gawn Out
Post by: crowls on August 08, 2020, 08:52:36 PM
good move on oscar timtim, I think it will pay off big time for you.  Looked at it but already had ladhams. 
Title: Re: Trading Max Gawn Out
Post by: Fid on August 08, 2020, 09:20:56 PM
Quote from: timtim on August 08, 2020, 08:44:57 PM
Quote from: crowls on August 08, 2020, 08:34:31 PM
Dont start gawn,  cry for 6 weeks
bring in Ladhams for 350k for two 120+ scores
move him to fwds and start draper and finally laugh now Gawn is rested.   
Took bloody long enough.    Need a couple of 80's from Gawn and I can go Ladhams to Gawn before the finals.

This. Love it

I just traded out Gawn to Oscar Mcinerney. No Smartin or Archie smith for next 5-6 weeks. Rucked solo last two games averaged 105/110-ish

Gawn BE 240 so he’ll lose a ton of cash once he’s back. With a bit of luck I’ll be able to go Oscar to Gawn

YOLO haha

Does anyone know how long Gawn is out for? 

I understand the BE, but if he is out this week and the next is it worth a trade?

Remembering that Gawn has a game in hand....
Title: Re: Trading Max Gawn Out
Post by: crowls on August 08, 2020, 09:25:20 PM
just  read an article that said he is just being rested because of sore knee not the shoulder/back issue he is carrying.  Sounds like back next week unfortunately for me.  https://t.co/YOG05mwpIg
Title: Re: Trading Max Gawn Out
Post by: alex1234 on August 11, 2020, 03:10:35 PM
https://t.co/dJI12KkWx2

Unfortunately don’t expect Max to be back 100% guaranteed

Maybe i should have had the balls to trade max to draper
Title: Re: Trading Max Gawn Out
Post by: Rusty00 on August 11, 2020, 03:31:07 PM
Quote from: alex1234 on August 11, 2020, 03:10:35 PM
https://t.co/dJI12KkWx2

Unfortunately don’t expect Max to be back 100% guaranteed

Maybe i should have had the balls to trade max to draper
Still no guarantee that Draper will play this week though.

In hindsight, if you were going to try a move like this, Gawn to Big O would have been the move to make - 2 weeks ago before Gawn played Adelaide when he was at his highest price and Big O had just acquired No.1 ruck duties at the Lions.

Easy to say in hindsight though ;)
Title: Re: Trading Max Gawn Out
Post by: PowerBug on August 11, 2020, 04:50:15 PM
I traded Gawn to Goldstein
Title: Re: Trading Max Gawn Out
Post by: Deadly6 on August 11, 2020, 05:47:47 PM
Quote from: PowerBug on August 11, 2020, 04:50:15 PM
I traded Gawn to Goldstein

Gawn -> Nic Nat. OK this week, next week????
Title: Re: Trading Max Gawn Out
Post by: Samsturmfels on August 11, 2020, 05:54:25 PM
Gawn to Nic Nat would have been the ideal trade if you did want to trade him (although will go up in $ the coming round). Nic Nat was only 487k and has had his bye.

Although I'm going to keep Gawn as i have Draper cover.
Title: Re: Trading Max Gawn Out
Post by: alex1234 on August 11, 2020, 06:35:29 PM
Quote from: Rusty00 on August 11, 2020, 03:31:07 PM
Quote from: alex1234 on August 11, 2020, 03:10:35 PM
https://t.co/dJI12KkWx2

Unfortunately don’t expect Max to be back 100% guaranteed

Maybe i should have had the balls to trade max to draper
Still no guarantee that Draper will play this week though.

In hindsight, if you were going to try a move like this, Gawn to Big O would have been the move to make - 2 weeks ago before Gawn played Adelaide when he was at his highest price and Big O had just acquired No.1 ruck duties at the Lions.

Easy to say in hindsight though ;)


I ended up trading Max to Goldstein - love a good hindsight though - maybe should have gone NN but i guess tine will tell
I’m hoping he holds his form the old Goatstein
Title: Re: Trading Max Gawn Out
Post by: Sabretooth Tigers on August 11, 2020, 07:12:50 PM
 ::)

Traded Gawn out and brought Petracca and Tom Mitchell in with the money, Balta from forward to ruck hasn't really worked but still have cash left to bring Gawn back if >>>>> ?
Title: Re: Trading Max Gawn Out
Post by: Goosey on August 11, 2020, 07:24:46 PM
Quote from: PowerBug on August 11, 2020, 04:50:15 PM
I traded Gawn to Goldstein
Me too, he tonned up but was still below expectation.
Title: Re: Trading Max Gawn Out
Post by: Goosey on August 11, 2020, 07:28:55 PM
Draper managed!!!
Title: Re: Trading Max Gawn Out
Post by: bkimm32 on August 11, 2020, 07:36:46 PM
Quote from: Goosey on August 11, 2020, 07:28:55 PM
Draper managed!!!
Welp first donut for the year, although technically doesn’t matter

That decision to trade Cameron for Draper 2 weeks ago instead of Rankine is looking really bad in hindsight
Title: Re: Trading Max Gawn Out
Post by: timtim on August 12, 2020, 12:48:12 AM
Quote from: bkimm32 on August 11, 2020, 07:36:46 PM
Quote from: Goosey on August 11, 2020, 07:28:55 PM
Draper managed!!!
Welp first donut for the year, although technically doesn’t matter

That decision to trade Cameron for Draper 2 weeks ago instead of Rankine is looking really bad in hindsight

Cameron out-scored Grundy 2 of the last 3 outings they played together

Quick trade him back in haha
Title: Re: Trading Max Gawn Out
Post by: crowls on August 12, 2020, 11:23:56 PM
gawn with pcl strain that will be managed over rest of year - jon ralph fox footy after ess/gcs game
Title: Re: Trading Max Gawn Out
Post by: Ingram on August 13, 2020, 12:53:07 AM
Gawn to Oliver feels so right.
Title: Re: Trading Max Gawn Out
Post by: Wanderer on August 13, 2020, 03:02:03 PM
Gawn to Ladhams, hopefully Ladhams price keeps increasing and Gawn's dropping, then pick Gawn back up in finals if he turns it around or grab best ruck available at that time. I have enough trades left.
Title: Re: Trading Max Gawn Out
Post by: North Melbournes Finest on August 13, 2020, 03:15:41 PM
I'm looking at trading Gawn to Nic Nat. Their prices are trending in other directions strongly, which means even in a couple of weeks you'd be able to trade Nic Nat back to Gawn for only a 40-60k price difference. But the 200k it generates for me this week allows me to trade a rookie to a premo.
Title: Re: Trading Max Gawn Out
Post by: Thewizz71 on August 13, 2020, 03:18:29 PM
Quote from: North Melbournes Finest on August 13, 2020, 03:15:41 PM
I'm looking at trading Gawn to Nic Nat. Their prices are trending in other directions strongly, which means even in a couple of weeks you'd be able to trade Nic Nat back to Gawn for only a 40-60k price difference. But the 200k it generates for me this week allows me to trade a rookie to a premo.
As a season long Nic Nat owner, a word of warning. Has been very frustrating with TOG around 70% max. Last 2 weeks very impressive scores, but those 80's & 90's when Gawn was smashing out 150+'s was vert depressing.
Beware  ???
Title: Re: Trading Max Gawn Out
Post by: North Melbournes Finest on August 13, 2020, 03:20:42 PM
Quote from: Thewizz71 on August 13, 2020, 03:18:29 PM
Quote from: North Melbournes Finest on August 13, 2020, 03:15:41 PM
I'm looking at trading Gawn to Nic Nat. Their prices are trending in other directions strongly, which means even in a couple of weeks you'd be able to trade Nic Nat back to Gawn for only a 40-60k price difference. But the 200k it generates for me this week allows me to trade a rookie to a premo.
As a season long Nic Nat owner, a word of warning. Has been very frustrating with TOG around 70% max. Last 2 weeks very impressive scores, but those 80's & 90's when Gawn was smashing out 150+'s was vert depressing.
Beware  ???
Yeah i definitely understand that, he's been getting more minutes lately though?
Title: Re: Trading Max Gawn Out
Post by: Samsturmfels on August 13, 2020, 03:28:07 PM
Quote from: North Melbournes Finest on August 13, 2020, 03:20:42 PM
Quote from: Thewizz71 on August 13, 2020, 03:18:29 PM
Quote from: North Melbournes Finest on August 13, 2020, 03:15:41 PM
I'm looking at trading Gawn to Nic Nat. Their prices are trending in other directions strongly, which means even in a couple of weeks you'd be able to trade Nic Nat back to Gawn for only a 40-60k price difference. But the 200k it generates for me this week allows me to trade a rookie to a premo.
As a season long Nic Nat owner, a word of warning. Has been very frustrating with TOG around 70% max. Last 2 weeks very impressive scores, but those 80's & 90's when Gawn was smashing out 150+'s was vert depressing.
Beware  ???
Yeah i definitely understand that, he's been getting more minutes lately though?
Pretty sure he had the most TOG since possibly 2016 im pretty sure i heard.
Title: Re: Trading Max Gawn Out
Post by: Rusty00 on August 13, 2020, 03:53:21 PM
Quote from: North Melbournes Finest on August 13, 2020, 03:15:41 PM
I'm looking at trading Gawn to Nic Nat. Their prices are trending in other directions strongly, which means even in a couple of weeks you'd be able to trade Nic Nat back to Gawn for only a 40-60k price difference. But the 200k it generates for me this week allows me to trade a rookie to a premo.
At the moment, I've settled on this as well. NicNat has some very appealing ruck match-ups to come.

Normally I wouldn't even consider this, but when the word "managed" is used when discussing someone's injury it doesn't prosper well for the coming weeks.
Title: Re: Trading Max Gawn Out
Post by: North Melbournes Finest on August 13, 2020, 03:55:16 PM
Quote from: Rusty00 on August 13, 2020, 03:53:21 PM
Quote from: North Melbournes Finest on August 13, 2020, 03:15:41 PM
I'm looking at trading Gawn to Nic Nat. Their prices are trending in other directions strongly, which means even in a couple of weeks you'd be able to trade Nic Nat back to Gawn for only a 40-60k price difference. But the 200k it generates for me this week allows me to trade a rookie to a premo.
At the moment, I've settled on this as well. NicNat has some very appealing ruck match-ups to come.

Normally I wouldn't even consider this, but when the word "managed" is used when discussing someone's injury it doesn't prosper well for the coming weeks.
At least the positive is, we'll get to see whether Gawn comes in before tonights game. Not that it matters for you guys but my 2nd trade if I trade Gawn out will be bringing in one of Haynes or Lloyd.
Title: Re: Trading Max Gawn Out
Post by: Bones Bombers on August 13, 2020, 05:42:04 PM
Quote from: North Melbournes Finest on August 13, 2020, 03:55:16 PM
Quote from: Rusty00 on August 13, 2020, 03:53:21 PM
Quote from: North Melbournes Finest on August 13, 2020, 03:15:41 PM
I'm looking at trading Gawn to Nic Nat. Their prices are trending in other directions strongly, which means even in a couple of weeks you'd be able to trade Nic Nat back to Gawn for only a 40-60k price difference. But the 200k it generates for me this week allows me to trade a rookie to a premo.
At the moment, I've settled on this as well. NicNat has some very appealing ruck match-ups to come.

Normally I wouldn't even consider this, but when the word "managed" is used when discussing someone's injury it doesn't prosper well for the coming weeks.
At least the positive is, we'll get to see whether Gawn comes in before tonights game. Not that it matters for you guys but my 2nd trade if I trade Gawn out will be bringing in one of Haynes or Lloyd.
We won’t though will we? Teams are only announced the night before the game each day.
Title: Re: Trading Max Gawn Out
Post by: no eye deer on August 13, 2020, 05:47:02 PM
Quote from: Bones Bombers on August 13, 2020, 05:42:04 PM
Quote from: North Melbournes Finest on August 13, 2020, 03:55:16 PM
Quote from: Rusty00 on August 13, 2020, 03:53:21 PM
Quote from: North Melbournes Finest on August 13, 2020, 03:15:41 PM
I'm looking at trading Gawn to Nic Nat. Their prices are trending in other directions strongly, which means even in a couple of weeks you'd be able to trade Nic Nat back to Gawn for only a 40-60k price difference. But the 200k it generates for me this week allows me to trade a rookie to a premo.
At the moment, I've settled on this as well. NicNat has some very appealing ruck match-ups to come.

Normally I wouldn't even consider this, but when the word "managed" is used when discussing someone's injury it doesn't prosper well for the coming weeks.
At least the positive is, we'll get to see whether Gawn comes in before tonights game. Not that it matters for you guys but my 2nd trade if I trade Gawn out will be bringing in one of Haynes or Lloyd.
We won’t though will we? Teams are only announced the night before the game each day.

Correct, unfortunately and its staying that way until the end of the season.
Title: Re: Trading Max Gawn Out
Post by: Bones Bombers on August 13, 2020, 06:10:09 PM
I just decided to trade Gawn to Goldy. Not real happy about having to sideways trade.
But it’s kind of the same as a rookie downgrade cash wise and I can still bring in Whitfield to improve the team overall.
Title: Re: Trading Max Gawn Out
Post by: shaker on August 13, 2020, 06:34:40 PM
Just on the AFL site Dee's ruck crisis with Luke Jackson doing a hammy and reported Gawn suffering from a tear behind his left shoulder and a PCL issue dose not sound to good.
Title: Re: Trading Max Gawn Out
Post by: justaverage on August 13, 2020, 08:10:14 PM
If I have to trade Gawn it will be to Neale