So, what do we think? What will the Tigers look like come Round 1, 2015? Will keep this updated as we have some more list changes.
OUT:
Daniel Jackson (retired)
Jake King (retired)
Aaron Edwards (delisted)
Brad Helbig (delisted)
Brett O'Hanlon (delisted)
*Todd Banfield (delisted)
*Cadeyn Williams (delisted)
*Ben Darrou (delisted)
*Orren Stephenson (delisted)
IN:
Taylor Hunt (DFA)
Corey Ellis (Pick 12 ND)
Connor Menadue (Pick 33 ND)
Nathan Drummond (Pick 52 ND)
Daniel Butler (Pick 67 ND)
Reece McKenzie (Pick 77 ND)
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Depth Chart
Backs
Locks: Alex Rance, Troy Chaplin, Steve Morris, David Astbury, Bachar Houli
Fringe: Chris Newman, Jake Batchelor, Dylan Grimes, Ricky Petterd
Depth: Matt Dea, Kamdyn McIntosh,
Midfielders
Locks: Trent Cotchin, Dustin Martin, Brett Deledio, Brandon Ellis, Anthony Miles
Fringe: Nick Vlastuin, Nathan Foley, Nathan Gordon, Reece Conca, Shaun Grigg, Corey Ellis
Depth: Matt Arnot, Matt Thomas, Connor Menadue, Nathan Drummond
Rucks
Locks: Ivan Maric
Fringe:
Depth: Shaun Hampson
Forwards
Locks: Jack Riewoldt, Shane Edwards
Fringe: Tyrone Vickery, Ben Griffiths, Chris Knights, Ben Lennon, Sam Lloyd
Depth: Todd Elton, Matthew McDonough, Liam McBean, Daniel Butler, Reece McKenzie
Best 22
FB: S.Morris, D.Astbury, T.Chaplin
HB: B.Houli, A.Rance, N.Vlastuin
C: B.Ellis, A.Miles, B.Deledio
HF: S.Edwards, B.Griffiths, N.Gordon
FF: D.Martin, J.Riewoldt, T.Vickery
Fol: I.Maric, T.Cotchin, R.Conca
I/C: R.Petterd, D.Grimes, N.Foley, C.Knights
Unlucky: S.Lloyd, J.Batchelor, C.Newman, S.Grigg, M.Thomas, B.Lennon
Credit to WCarey for the idea on the North board, very handy and creates some good discussion in the quiet time of year ;)
Obviously still have a lot of positions to fill on our player list in the coming weeks with 9 list changes and none incoming as of yet.
Glaringly obvious to me is that our forwards are fairly light on, and we could really use a crafty small forward up front, so this might be a position we look to target when recruiting.
Quote from: Toga on October 07, 2014, 05:00:51 PM
So, what do we think? What will the Tigers look like come Round 1, 2015? Will keep this updated as we have some more list changes.
OUT:
Daniel Jackson (retired)
Jake King (retired)
Aaron Edwards (delisted)
Brad Helbig (delisted)
Brett O'Hanlon (delisted)
*Todd Banfield (delisted)
*Cadeyn Williams (delisted)
*Ben Darrou (delisted)
*Orren Stephenson (delisted)
IN:
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Depth Chart
Backs
Locks: Alex Rance, Troy Chaplin, Steve Morris, David Astbury, Bachar Houli
Fringe: Chris Newman, Jake Batchelor, Dylan Grimes, Ricky Petterd
Depth: Matt Dea, Kamdyn McIntosh,
Midfielders
Locks: Trent Cotchin, Dustin Martin, Brett Deledio, Brandon Ellis, Anthony Miles
Fringe: Nick Vlastuin, Nathan Foley, Nathan Gordon, Reece Conca, Shaun Grigg, Matt Thomas
Depth: Matt Arnot
Rucks
Locks: Ivan Maric
Fringe:
Depth: Shaun Hampson
Forwards
Locks: Jack Riewoldt, Shane Edwards
Fringe: Tyrone Vickery, Ben Griffiths, Chris Knights, Ben Lennon, Sam Lloyd
Depth: Todd Elton, Matthew McDonoughm Liam McBean
Best 22
FB: S.Morris, D.Astbury, T.Chaplin
HB: B.Houli, A.Rance, N.Vlastuin
C: B.Ellis, A.Miles, B.Deledio
HF: S.Edwards, B.Griffiths, N.Gordon
FF: S.Lloyd, J.Riewoldt, T.Vickery
Fol: I.Maric, T.Cotchin, D.Martin
I/C: R.Conca, D.Grimes, N.Foley, C.Knights
Unlucky: R.Petterd, J.Batchelor, C.Newman, S.Grigg, M.Thomas, B.Lennon
Credit to WCarey for the idea on the North board, very handy and creates some good discussion in the quiet time of year ;)
Might want to rephrase that
Hm, might have to think about this one.
Can nearly add in Winderlich ;)
Quote from: Ricochet on October 07, 2014, 05:12:28 PM
Can nearly add in Winderlich ;)
Probably fills a bit of a void honestly. He'd replace Knights on the interchange or Lloyd up forward. Grigg or Petterd potentially in the 22 as well.
Quote from: Ricochet on October 07, 2014, 05:12:28 PM
Can nearly add in Winderlich ;)
Yeah man, would certainly add something to the team ;)
Quote from: Nige on October 07, 2014, 05:13:38 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on October 07, 2014, 05:12:28 PM
Can nearly add in Winderlich ;)
Probably fills a bit of a void honestly. He'd replace Knights on the interchange or Lloyd up forward. Grigg or Petterd potentially in the 22 as well.
Who would they replace though?
Quote from: Toga on October 07, 2014, 05:22:02 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on October 07, 2014, 05:12:28 PM
Can nearly add in Winderlich ;)
Yeah man, would certainly add something to the team ;)
Quote from: Nige on October 07, 2014, 05:13:38 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on October 07, 2014, 05:12:28 PM
Can nearly add in Winderlich ;)
Probably fills a bit of a void honestly. He'd replace Knights on the interchange or Lloyd up forward. Grigg or Petterd potentially in the 22 as well.
Who would they replace though?
I was thinking that if Winderlich replaces Lloyd up forward, Grigg or Petterd on the interchange for Knights.
Looks good, Toga.
But two clear changes, I'd make.
Petterd in for Knights. Petterd is close to a lock, Dimma loves him.
Conca in for Lloyd, with Dusty or Lids fwd.
Quote from: JROO8 on October 07, 2014, 07:14:53 PM
Looks good, Toga.
But two clear changes, I'd make.
Petterd in for Knights. Petterd is close to a lock, Dimma loves him.
Conca in for Lloyd, with Dusty or Lids fwd.
Toges had Conca on the interchange. ;)
Quote from: Toga on October 07, 2014, 05:00:51 PM
Credit to WCarey for the idea on the North board, very handy and creates some good discussion in the quiet time of year ;)
You're welcome ;)
Quote from: Nige on October 07, 2014, 08:09:35 PM
Quote from: JROO8 on October 07, 2014, 07:14:53 PM
Looks good, Toga.
But two clear changes, I'd make.
Petterd in for Knights. Petterd is close to a lock, Dimma loves him.
Conca in for Lloyd, with Dusty or Lids fwd.
Toges had Conca on the interchange. ;)
Really? :o
I swear he didn't? I must be seeing things, haha.
You guys should be chasing Garlett.
Quote from: JROO8 on October 07, 2014, 08:36:02 PM
Really? :o
I swear he didn't? I must be seeing things, haha.
Yeah, I did. But changed him on to the field if that's where you think he should be :P
Quote from: JBs-Hawks on October 07, 2014, 08:37:18 PM
You guys should be chasing Garlett.
Agree mate, fills the obvious hole in the team at the moment. Winderlich would be a good pickup, but is getting on a bit and his body has always been a bit shaky so I would be surprised if we didn't go after Garlett as well
If we can get Winderlich as a UFA good but reported in todays herald sun Dan Richardson said they would not trade for him they really seem intent on keeping the picks intact this year , as for Garlett prefer we steer clear look at him he is built like a whippet but rarely plays like one lazy in my opinion probably why Malthouse put a line through him well before the end of the season .
Quote from: shaker on October 08, 2014, 09:37:59 AM
If we can get Winderlich as a UFA good but reported in todays herald sun Dan Richardson said they would not trade for him they really seem intent on keeping the picks intact this year , as for Garlett prefer we steer clear look at him he is built like a whippet but rarely plays like one lazy in my opinion probably why Malthouse put a line through him well before the end of the season .
Yeah, I agree.
Just on Licka, I reckon we'll end up getting him through free agency, a bit like how the NDS joined the Roos (heard/read something the other day comparing the two).
Quote from: Nige on October 08, 2014, 09:44:50 AM
Quote from: shaker on October 08, 2014, 09:37:59 AM
If we can get Winderlich as a UFA good but reported in todays herald sun Dan Richardson said they would not trade for him they really seem intent on keeping the picks intact this year , as for Garlett prefer we steer clear look at him he is built like a whippet but rarely plays like one lazy in my opinion probably why Malthouse put a line through him well before the end of the season .
Yeah, I agree.
Just on Licka, I reckon we'll end up getting him through free agency, a bit like how the NDS joined the Roos (heard/read something the other day comparing the two).
Yeah the Bombers have to release him for it to happen as the Saints did with NDS if we can pick him up for nicks he would be worth a shot for a year or two fast classy player and a goal kicker the only drawback is he has been a bit fragile but those are the risks you take
Quote from: shaker on October 08, 2014, 09:50:46 AM
Quote from: Nige on October 08, 2014, 09:44:50 AM
Quote from: shaker on October 08, 2014, 09:37:59 AM
If we can get Winderlich as a UFA good but reported in todays herald sun Dan Richardson said they would not trade for him they really seem intent on keeping the picks intact this year , as for Garlett prefer we steer clear look at him he is built like a whippet but rarely plays like one lazy in my opinion probably why Malthouse put a line through him well before the end of the season .
Yeah, I agree.
Just on Licka, I reckon we'll end up getting him through free agency, a bit like how the NDS joined the Roos (heard/read something the other day comparing the two).
Yeah the Bombers have to release him for it to happen as the Saints did with NDS if we can pick him up for nicks he would be worth a shot for a year or two fast classy player and a goal kicker the only drawback is he has been a bit fragile but those are the risks you take
Yeah that's the only way we'll get him. Not confident though, Essendon are flowerwits to deal with.
So what team do we want to see run out rd 1?
A lot of water to go under the bridge over pre season but at this stage I'd like to see.
FB: Morris, Astbury, Chaplin
HB: Houli, Rance, Vlastuin
CR: Ellis, Miles, Deledio
HF: Martin, Griffiths, Edwards
FF: Lennon, Riewoldt, Lloyd
Fol: Maric, Cotchin, Hunt
Int: Vickery, Conca, Newman sub: McDonough
There's a battle for the back six but I think we can only afford to have 3 of Rance, Chappy, Astbury and Grimes. Rance is the only lock. The other 2 spots are a battle between the other 3.
Makes it very hard for mid sized backs like Batchelor, Dea and Petterd to break into the side.
The battle for mid spots is tough. Can't see a spot for regulars like Foley or Grigg though? Which leaves guys like Matty Thomas and Arnot (rookie anyway) a long way back.
Forward line is tough competition too but unfortunately it's not because of endless talent but more because of endless "maybe" players.
Jack the only lock as a tall. Vickery, Griffiths, Hampson and hopefully McBean and Elton all to fight for 1 or 2 spots. Please 1 of you have a monster season!
Small forwards are also a bit "meh" Titch is a lock but can't really say any of Lloyd, Lennon, Knights or Gordon scream out for a spot. Hopefully 1 or 2 of them really turn it on next year too.
A lot of blokes that should be busting their ass to get a game round 1 as there is definitely hefty competition for spots on all lines which is a great thing. Just hope that they pick the guys that earn it and want it the most and not just go with names (looking at Grigg)
I had a look at this a couple of weeks ago.
I reckon we'll go something like:
B: Morris Chaplin Astbury
HB: Houli Rance Vlastuin
M: Ellis Miles Grigg
HF: Lids Griffiths Shedwards
F: Vickery Jroo Dusty
Foll: Maric Cotch Petterd
Int: Hunt Conca Gordon
Sub: One of Lennon, Madonna, Newy or Foley.
I like Grimes, but see it hard for him to keep his spot with Astbury coming back. Maybe he could replace Chappy.
Petterd is a lock, IMO. Really impressed by him this year, he can play anywhere.
Gordon I think done enough to suggest he has a spot next year, in the 22. I'd rather play Lids and Dusty as fwds, meaning we can select another 1 or 2 mids, instead if Lloyd or Kmights.
Not sure on Grigg, still think they'll persist with him, as can't see one of Lennon or Madonna taking his spot just yet. By the end of the year, they may though.
Just dont like the look of Grigg on that right wing :-X
He is slow and not damaging with his disposal. Happy for him to prove me wrong though
Quote from: quinny88 on November 13, 2014, 03:00:15 PM
Just dont like the look of Grigg on that right wing :-X
He is slow and not damaging with his disposal. Happy for him to prove me wrong though
Yeah I agree, don't rate him either. Just think we'll give him another go, until he's forced out.
i thought Gordon would be getting the odd vest also?
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on November 13, 2014, 05:24:25 PM
i thought Gordon would be getting the odd vest also?
Yeah a chance.
I like him though, he's dangerous up forward.
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on November 13, 2014, 05:24:25 PM
i thought Gordon would be getting the odd vest also?
Nup, not anymore.
FB: Morris, Astbury, Chaplin
HB: Vlastuin, Rance, Houli
C: Ellis, Miles, Deledio
HF: Gordon, Griffiths, Knights
FF: Edwards, Riewoldt, Vickery
Foll: Maric, Cotchin, Martin
IC: Conca, Newman, Hunt
S: Grigg/Lennon/McDonough
Astbury fit has our backline looking strong - Chaplin won't have to take the resting ruck anymore and will return to that quarterback type role that he is suited to. Vlastuin could be a part of midfield rotations, but has a good intercept mark so don't mind him on the back flank. Rance and Houli are both locks, if Morris' shoulder is ok next year then he is as well.
Midfield is self-explanatory, and it's looking a lot better from the start with Miles in there. Martin/Edwards, Gordon/Deledio swapping on the ball, with Conca and Hunt both capable off the bench.
Griffiths, Vickery and Riewoldt should be able to play together, but if we're looking to go small some weeks then swap one of Griffiths/Vickery with Lloyd. Knights will play if fit IMO, although will compete with McDonough and Lennon for a starting spot.
None of us putting Grimes in despite a top 10 b&f finish?
Gonna be good competition for spots down back
Quote from: quinny88 on November 14, 2014, 12:29:24 PM
None of us putting Grimes in despite a top 10 b&f finish?
Gonna be good competition for spots down back
He finished 11th :P
Which is still pretty decent
I'm not sure who comes out for him though, I like him as he can play small or tall.
Quote from: quinny88 on November 14, 2014, 12:29:24 PM
None of us putting Grimes in despite a top 10 b&f finish?
Gonna be good competition for spots down back
Yeah, he'll be competing with Chappy for that third tall spot I think, while he deserves to play it means there's good competition.
Some of the more recent phantom drafts have us taking Sam Durdin at #12 - Grimes not fitting in to the team means for me it wouldn't make sense to get Durdin... What do you guys think?
Well 11th then lol. But yeah,I don't see a spot for him but maybe they will go with all 4?
Like you said Toga, he can play tall or small
He might actually be competing with Newman and Batch for a spot on the bench even when you think about it. He's quite a versatile defender so yeah, while he's the perfect size for a third tall he could also play on those shorter types that aren't too pacey
Only just noticed that Grimes finally got a decent amount of games in this season.
So I have updated the OP with our draftees last night. I can't really see any of them pushing for games in 2015 (except maybe Ellis).
Quote from: Toga on November 28, 2014, 10:47:21 AM
So I have updated the OP with our draftees last night. I can't really see any of them pushing for games in 2015 (except maybe Ellis).
I reckon Drummond could also be a chance if he works hard.
Reece McKenzie looks like he has the body to play, would he be a chance to push for games late in the season?
The AFL site posted their take on how each club's best 22 could look in Round 1.
Richmond
B: Dylan Grimes, Alex Rance, David Astbury
HB: Bachar Houli, Troy Chaplin, Steven Morris
C: Nick Vlastuin, Reece Conca, Brandon Ellis
HF: Dustin Martin, Ben Griffiths, Brett Deledio
F: Shane Edwards, Jack Riewoldt, Nathan Gordon
R: Ivan Maric, Trent Cotchin, Anthony Miles
I/C: Chris Newman, Taylor Hunt, Ricky Petterd
Sub: Nathan Foley
New: Taylor Hunt (Geelong)
Unavailable: Nil
Comment: The Tigers are playing Carlton in round one and the Blues have some tall options in their forward line, which could see the yellow and black go in with a bigger backline. Later on, a need for more run could see a reshuffle with Grimes a casualty in favour of Morris moving to a back pocket, Vlastuin to a back flank and Shaun Grigg onto a wing. Astbury's early season form before his knee injury this year sees him get the nod over Jake Batchelor. There's also scope to move the forward line around and bring in another tall, with Ty Vickery missing out based on the Tigers' preferred set-up late in the season that used Griffiths instead. Liam McBean could push for a senior debut at some stage after finishing fourth in the VFL's goalkicking. The likes of Sam Lloyd, Chris Knights and Matt McDonough will compete with Gordon for a spot in the forward line. The Tigers spent much of last season trying to discover Ben Lennon's best position and he'll be looking to break into the team early after off-season hip surgery. - Jennifer Phelan
The names that are probably the interesting omissions are Shaun Grigg and Tyrone Vickery, but Jen Phelan talks about them.
Looks pretty solid to me.
The Herald Sun's take on our best 22:
B: Troy Chaplin, David Astbury, Steven Morris
HB: Dylan Grimes, Alex Rance, Bachar Houli
C: Brandon Ellis, Dustin Martin, Shane Edwards
HF: Brett Deledio, Ben Griffiths, Nick Vlastuin
F: Ty Vickery, Jack Riewoldt, Ben Lennon
FOLL: Ivan Maric, Anthony Miles, Trent Cotchin
I/C: Chris Newman, Shaun Grigg, Taylor Hunt, Reece Conca
Not picked: Jake Batchelor, Nathan Foley, Nathan Gordon, Sam Lloyd, Chris Knights
Astbury returns from a knee injury and takes Batchelor’s spot. Ben Lennon will get more chances in his second season but Gordon, Lloyd and Knights are all contenders for that small forward spot. The Tigers say they want to play Riewoldt, Griffiths and Vickery in the same side.
I think Lennon or Grigg come out for Gordon, that's the only change I'd make.
Hurry up round 1
Been years since we've knocked off Collingwood. Reckon we owe them a few floggings
Quote from: quinny88 on January 24, 2015, 09:13:20 PM
Been years since we've knocked off Collingwood. Reckon we owe them a few floggings
No ;D
Surprised to see Cotchin in your best 22.
Quote from: Pkbaldy on January 25, 2015, 03:48:45 PM
Surprised to see Cotchin in your best 22.
Another all Australian year coming up for the champ ;)
Surely Petterd gets a run ahead of all those guys on the bench?!
Quote from: meow meow on January 26, 2015, 12:06:37 AM
Surely Petterd gets a run ahead of all those guys on the bench?!
Surprised he didn't even get a mention actually. He's definitely in the mix
Quote from: quinny88 on January 26, 2015, 12:11:43 AM
Quote from: meow meow on January 26, 2015, 12:06:37 AM
Surely Petterd gets a run ahead of all those guys on the bench?!
Surprised he didn't even get a mention actually. He's definitely in the mix
shower, totally didn't even notice.
In that case, Petterd and Gordon in for Lennon and Grigg.
Gordon's definitely thereabouts, can play as a smaller third tall option with his lead-up marking ability or as a winger with his running ability. Should be in the team.
Can't wait to see Chris Knights back in action, was playing so well when he was injured, can play HFF, pocket and mid.
I think he's ahead of guys like Gordon, Lloyd and Lennon and offers a bit more than them except maybe Lennon but he's still developing.
I don't know if he's likely round 1 but should be important to us this season if he stays fit.
Fully fit Knights easily makes tigers 22, he's a gun
Quote from: fasttrack13 on February 15, 2015, 02:43:41 PM
Fully fit Knights easily makes tigers 22, he's a gun
A gun? What has he done in the past 5 years other than get injured?
Quote from: meow meow on February 15, 2015, 06:02:31 PM
Quote from: fasttrack13 on February 15, 2015, 02:43:41 PM
Fully fit Knights easily makes tigers 22, he's a gun
A gun? What has he done in the past 5 years other than get injured?
You can be a gun and get injured Mate, doesn't change what a player is capable if fit. He's the sort of player who can get the Tigers above just scraping in the 8. Has the X-Factor.
Sounds like Stevie Morris will be filling the small forward role this year, playing that Jake King role.
Hardwick reaffirmed that defender Steven Morris, acting captain against the Dogs, would be used in a Jake King-style role up forward this season.
“He has been playing that role in our intra-club (matches). He had two shots on goal today when the ball wasn’t inside the forward 50 much. He makes the most of his opportunities and he puts enormous pressure on as well, so we’ll persevere with that one,†the coach said.
“I thought we missed Jake last year in that role, that pressure-type forward and intimidating force up there. He puts enormous pressure on and makes players around him better.
“He (Morris) played forward as a TAC (Cup) player, so he’s going back to the future in a way. And he’ll get better.â€
I don't like the sound of that.
In other news, Dimma has challenged Lambert, Elton and McBean to push for a round one spot.
Look, I'd honestly much rather him play as a defender, but it could work. I think he played quite well on the weekend.
As for Lambert, Elton and McBean pushing for a spot. Based on the game vs the Dogs, Lambert has to be close.
I'm not a big Elton fan, I don't see where he fits in to be honest, but he wasn't bad against the Dogs, still hasn't won me over yet.
McBean wasn't great, but I expect him to have a better crack at it in our next games.
I though Elton was really good on the weekend. He won't be playing round 1 with Rance, Chappy and Astbury back in the side though but it's good to see he looks comfortable down back and ready to step into the side if we needed him.
Morris as a forward could work! The way Vlastuin went in the Backline on the weekend was actually very Morris like so I could see a bit of a role change there.
McBean still looked a mile off to me. I know he's put on weight but he honestly still looks like a rake and no where near ready for AFL
Spots are getting tight! 15 best 22 players missing on the weekend and there were plenty that put their hand up
I actually thought all of the rookie listed lads had their moments too, which was really good to see.
However Menadue, Drummond, Butler and McKenzie did nothing inspiring.
Vlastuin was terrific, he's the next captain of our football club and I'm very excited for when that happens.
Lambert looks the goods and I can see him pushing for a round 1 spot, same with Knights... I will be stoked if we can get him in for a solid season this year, has a lot to offer.
Elton I don't think will play ahead of Rance, Chaplin, Astbury, Grimes but I think he showed he'll be able to slide in if we need him at some point this year.
I liked the look of Castagna in the back pocket early on as well, think he showed some very good signs!
I hope lambert plays for supercoach purposes more than anything else :P
He does look like a ready made gun too though
Jason Castagna feels like an upgrade on Ben Darrou who was on our rookie list for a few years. He can play both ends too, somewhat like Matt McDonough and Stevie Morris, which we know Dimma and co love.
Early days but right now I would probably have the round 1 team looking like..
FB: Chaplin, Astbury, Vlastuin
HB: Houli, Rance, Newman
C: Ellis, Martin, Conca
HF: Deledio, Grifiths, Knights
FF: Edwards, Riewoldt, Morris
Fol: Maric, Cotchin, Miles
Int: Hunt, Vickery, Lambert Sub: Foley
Quote from: quinny88 on March 03, 2015, 02:24:01 PM
Early days but right now I would probably have the round 1 team looking like..
FB: Chaplin, Astbury, Vlastuin
HB: Houli, Rance, Newman
C: Ellis, Martin, Conca
HF: Deledio, Grifiths, Knights
FF: Edwards, Riewoldt, Morris
Fol: Maric, Cotchin, Miles
Int: Hunt, Vickery, Lambert Sub: Foley
Yep. Based on what we've seen so far and if all those blokes are fit, that looks about right to me.
It's good that blokes like Gordon, Petterd, Lloyd, Grigg, Lennon etc are stiff to miss out. Competition for spots is great to see because our depth hasn't been there in the past, but it's looking better year after year.
Unless Gordon has gone backwards I would expect to see him and Grigg in the team who comes out I'm not sure maybe Hunt and Lambert ? to early to tell yet lets see what happens in the rest of the NAB .
Quote from: shaker on March 03, 2015, 02:54:22 PM
Unless Gordon has gone backwards I would expect to see him and Grigg in the team who comes out I'm not sure maybe Hunt and Lambert ? to early to tell yet lets see what happens in the rest of the NAB .
Maybe Knights? Can't imagine Hunt not playing round 1.
Lambert not a lock but that's just my personal 22
Quote from: quinny88 on March 03, 2015, 02:24:01 PM
Early days but right now I would probably have the round 1 team looking like..
FB: Chaplin, Astbury, Vlastuin
HB: Houli, Rance, Newman
C: Ellis, Martin, Conca
HF: Deledio, Grifiths, Knights
FF: Edwards, Riewoldt, Morris
Fol: Maric, Cotchin, Miles
Int: Hunt, Vickery, Lambert Sub: Foley
Haha Quinny hates Petterd :P I think he's a certainly in our best 22.
I'd take out Newman and Foley and bring in Petterd and Gordon.
Then I think two of Grigg, Hunt and Lambert will probably be picked, the other unlucky to miss out.
Still early days though.
Quote from: JROO8 on March 03, 2015, 05:17:18 PM
Quote from: quinny88 on March 03, 2015, 02:24:01 PM
Early days but right now I would probably have the round 1 team looking like..
FB: Chaplin, Astbury, Vlastuin
HB: Houli, Rance, Newman
C: Ellis, Martin, Conca
HF: Deledio, Grifiths, Knights
FF: Edwards, Riewoldt, Morris
Fol: Maric, Cotchin, Miles
Int: Hunt, Vickery, Lambert Sub: Foley
Haha Quinny hates Petterd :P I think he's a certainly in our best 22.
I'd take out Newman and Foley and bring in Petterd and Gordon.
Then I think two of Grigg, Hunt and Lambert will probably be picked, the other unlucky to miss out.
Still early days though.
Haha nah I don't mind him but I see him for what he is which is a gap filler. He can slot in anywhere but doesn't have a particular role that he fills any better than the guys in my best 22. Just my opinion though
Do you guys think we could line up with all four of Chaplin, Rance, Astbury and Grimes? For me, it would be too tall down back but I rate Grimes and it is hard for me to picture him being stuck in the VFL side.
I also think we could consider playing Vlaustin more in the midfield this year. He was drafted as a mid and I think after 2 seasons of developing down back he could be ready to step up to the midfield. Lids might spend less time in the mids this year given how good he was at half forward in the second half of last year.
Quote from: BigMac_93 on March 05, 2015, 10:34:20 PM
Do you guys think we could line up with all four of Chaplin, Rance, Astbury and Grimes? For me, it would be too tall down back but I rate Grimes and it is hard for me to picture him being stuck in the VFL side.
I also think we could consider playing Vlaustin more in the midfield this year. He was drafted as a mid and I think after 2 seasons of developing down back he could be ready to step up to the midfield. Lids might spend less time in the mids this year given how good he was at half forward in the second half of last year.
It's a tough one, because they're all quite good and should be in the team but Astbury and Grimes do have their injury troubles too.
We also have Jack, Ty, Griff (who can also play down back, not really needed though) up forward plus Ivan in the ruck.
It would be a tough call, but I think Grimes would be the first to be dropped/not get a gig.
Quote from: BigMac_93 on March 05, 2015, 10:34:20 PM
Do you guys think we could line up with all four of Chaplin, Rance, Astbury and Grimes? For me, it would be too tall down back but I rate Grimes and it is hard for me to picture him being stuck in the VFL side.
I also think we could consider playing Vlaustin more in the midfield this year. He was drafted as a mid and I think after 2 seasons of developing down back he could be ready to step up to the midfield. Lids might spend less time in the mids this year given how good he was at half forward in the second half of last year.
I think it will depend on the match ups of that week but Grimes is pretty versatile and often plays on a small so I don't see why they can't play together most weeks
Yep agree with Quinny, Grimes can play small as well as tall, so it's possible.
How do people rate Astbury, my mate reckons that if it weren't for injuries he'd be an AA full back, I thought that was an extreme statement on the other hand.
Quote from: Kellogscrunchynut on March 06, 2015, 11:37:56 AM
How do people rate Astbury, my mate reckons that if it weren't for injuries he'd be an AA full back, I thought that was an extreme statement on the other hand.
Because of his injuries we only have seen glimpses of how good he could be , so he needs to get through a full season to really see his potential
Quote from: Kellogscrunchynut on March 06, 2015, 11:37:56 AM
How do people rate Astbury, my mate reckons that if it weren't for injuries he'd be an AA full back, I thought that was an extreme statement on the other hand.
Big call, but if it weren't for injuries and all things considered, I think he's our second best defender behind Rance.
Whats Vlastuins role do you think?
Quote from: T Dog on March 06, 2015, 07:41:51 PM
Whats Vlastuins role do you think?
Probably half back with stints in the mid.
Axel Foley is having foot surgery, will be out of action until about Round 4 so that's a spot in the 22 open for somebody to seize and potentially keep depending on how they go.
Don't you really mean a spot is open for someone to wear green :P
Quote from: LF on March 11, 2015, 04:03:54 PM
Don't you really mean a spot is open for someone to wear green :P
Not necessarily. I mean while he's a decent sub option and out of the general 22 that he seems the most likely to get it, it has never been a certainty imo, I think this year will be a lot different sub wise.
Quote from: Nige on March 11, 2015, 04:35:32 PM
Quote from: LF on March 11, 2015, 04:03:54 PM
Don't you really mean a spot is open for someone to wear green :P
Not necessarily. I mean while he's a decent sub option and out of the general 22 that he seems the most likely to get it, it has never been a certainty imo, I think this year will be a lot different sub wise.
Hope so he is still playing decent footy but in saying that getting some games into the younger players is a nessecity
Quote from: LF on March 11, 2015, 04:37:48 PM
Quote from: Nige on March 11, 2015, 04:35:32 PM
Quote from: LF on March 11, 2015, 04:03:54 PM
Don't you really mean a spot is open for someone to wear green :P
Not necessarily. I mean while he's a decent sub option and out of the general 22 that he seems the most likely to get it, it has never been a certainty imo, I think this year will be a lot different sub wise.
Hope so he is still playing decent footy but in saying that getting some games into the younger players is a nessecity
I feel like the younger guys will be the sub and blokes like Newy, Axel and Grigg if they're in the side will get the red vest. That's my opinion though and is probably wrong.
What's everyone think after the nab challenge? I would reward guys that showed form.
Vickery ONLY there because it could help us stretch carltons defence.
FB: Chaplin, Astbury, Vlastuin
HB: Houli, Rance, Morris
C: Ellis, Martin, Conca
HF: Deledio, Griffiths, Edwards
FF: Lloyd, Riewoldt, Vickery
R: Maric, Cotchin, Miles
I/C: Hunt, Grimes, Lambert sub: McIntosh
Vlastuin Rance Astbury
Houli Chaplin Ellis
Lennon Miles Grigg
Lids JRoo Edwards
Morris Vickery Griffiths
Maric Cotchin Martin
Conca Petterd Gordon Lloyd (sub)
A few guys are pretty unlucky to miss out there, they include Knights, Lambert, Hunt, Grimes, McIntosh and Batchelor who have all been good recently. Newman and Foley missing through injury, but it's good to see we've got a bit of depth.
Reallllly hoping Lambert and McIntosh get named
I think the only spot in my 22 that may be up for grabs is Gordon's, my boy Beatle has done enough to start I think.
Lambert, Hunt or McIntosh will take his place. Not so sure anyone else will be displaced.
http://m.richmondfc.com.au/news/2015-03-23/lambert-elevated-to-senior-list
Lambert upgraded so you'd think he'd get a spot in the 22
FB: Morris, Astbury, Grimes
HB: Vlastuin, Rance, Houli
C: Ellis, Cotchin, Grigg
HF: Deledio, Griffiths, Knights
FF: Edwards, Riewoldt, Vickery
Fol: Maric, Miles, Martin
I/C: Conca, Lloyd, Hunt
Sub: Lambert
If Knights isn't fit for round 1 I think Lennon might play in his place, with either him or Lambert as sub. McIntosh unlucky to miss out, will be competing with Hunt and Grigg for a spot. Gordon also unlucky, could play instead of Lloyd, Grigg or even Vickery if we are looking too tall.
no love for Petterd Toga? thought he was pretty good for you last year?
mainly an XV question
Quote from: SydneyRox on March 26, 2015, 12:57:33 PM
no love for Petterd Toga? thought he was pretty good for you last year?
mainly an XV question
I think he has a spot, probably in for one of Lloyd/Hunt/Lambert in the team Toga posted. Dimma loves the bloke, it's hard to say. We'll find out soon though.
Petterd makes me nervous every time he gets the ball - hard worker, but just doesn't do much to excite me.
Lloyd's good form as a dangerous small forward should see him get a game in round 1, and I think Hunt looks like a more pacey, skilful version of Petterd so would prefer to see him in the team instead. Could take Lambert's spot I suppose.
Quote from: Toga on March 26, 2015, 01:06:33 PM
Petterd makes me nervous every time he gets the ball - hard worker, but just doesn't do much to excite me.
Lloyd's good form as a dangerous small forward should see him get a game in round 1, and I think Hunt looks like a more pacey, skilful version of Petterd so would prefer to see him in the team instead. Could take Lambert's spot I suppose.
Hunt's probably got better pace, but his disposal is worse than Ricky's.
Who would the Bean need to push out of the squad to get a game?
Quote from: Big Mac on March 26, 2015, 11:18:52 PM
Who would the Bean need to push out of the squad to get a game?
It's unlikely Jack would be pushed out. So Tyrone or Griff. There's a slim chance of him playing even with those 3 in the side, but that would probably be if Hampson and Maric were both injured and one or both had to play ruck, or Griff was played down back.
This is the fan voted best 22 which was on the club website.
http://www.richmondfc.com.au/news/2015-04-01/tiger-fans-best-22
Quote from: Nige on April 01, 2015, 01:30:46 PM
This is the fan voted best 22 which was on the club website.
http://www.richmondfc.com.au/news/2015-04-01/tiger-fans-best-22
Lambert:)
Few players out of form and out of position at the moment.
Right now I would say the best 22 is
FB: Vlastuin, Astbury, Batchelor
HB: Houli, Rance, Chaplin
C: Ellis, Martin, McIntosh
HF: Knights, Griffiths, Deledio
FF: Lloyd, Reiwoldt, Edwards
R: Maric, Cotchin, Miles
I/C: Hunt, Morris, Grigg sub: Gordon
Hunt I think should be used for what he's good at which is tagging. We still struggle with the games best mids and don't adapt if they get on top.
Morris is a defender, he can't play forward to save himself so don't play him there.
Defence have been great and hard to leave people out. Astbury in probably forces one of Grimes or Batchelor out.
Knights brings an X factor to the forward line
Quote from: quinny88 on April 13, 2015, 08:24:06 PM
Few players out of form and out of position at the moment.
Right now I would say the best 22 is
FB: Vlastuin, Astbury, Batchelor
HB: Houli, Rance, Chaplin
C: Ellis, Martin, McIntosh
HF: Knights, Griffiths, Deledio
FF: Lloyd, Reiwoldt, Edwards
R: Maric, Cotchin, Miles
I/C: Hunt, Morris, Grigg sub: Gordon
Hate to toot my own horn but this was the team that lined up apart from Newy in for Deledio and we won by 79 points 8)
If anyone from the RFC are reading this, I'm available
Hahaha, good form quinny!
Quote from: quinny88 on April 22, 2015, 06:26:29 PM
Quote from: quinny88 on April 13, 2015, 08:24:06 PM
Few players out of form and out of position at the moment.
Right now I would say the best 22 is
FB: Vlastuin, Astbury, Batchelor
HB: Houli, Rance, Chaplin
C: Ellis, Martin, McIntosh
HF: Knights, Griffiths, Deledio
FF: Lloyd, Reiwoldt, Edwards
R: Maric, Cotchin, Miles
I/C: Hunt, Morris, Grigg sub: Gordon
Hate to toot my own horn but this was the team that lined up apart from Newy in for Deledio and we won by 79 points 8)
If anyone from the RFC are reading this, I'm available
hahaha give the man a job