The 10th season of the Hyundai A-League is almost upon us! In anticipation, this is a thread for general league discussion, as well as pre-season predictions and a preview of the 2014/15 campaign by yours truly. This season promises to be an exciting one, with a heap of major positive transfer activity and a hype like never before.
Adelaide United
Coach: Josep Gombau
INS:
- Pablo Sanchez Alberto
- Craig Goodwin
- Dylan McGowan
- Jimmy Jeggo
OUTS:
- Jeronimo Neumann
- Jon McKain
- Michael Zullo
Brisbane Roar
Coach: Mike Mulvey
INS:
- Mensur Kurtisi
- Adam Sarota (loan)
- Daniel Bowles
OUTS:
- Besart Berisha
- Ivan Franjic
- Diogo Ferreira
Central Coast Mariners
Coach: Phil Moss
INS:
- Matthew Nash
- Malick Mane (loan)
- Richard Vernes (loan)
OUTS:
- Michael McGlinchey
- Marcos Flores
- Bernie Ibini
- Justin Pasfield
- Marcel Seip
- Mile Sterjovski
Melbourne City
Coach: John Vant Schip
INS:
- David Villa (guest for 10 games)
- Damien Duff
- Robert Koren
- Aaron Mooy
- Erik Paartalu
- James Brown
OUTS:
- Orlando Engelaar
- Harry Kewell
- Patrick Gerhardt
- Aziz Behich
Melbourne Victory
Coach: Kevin Muscat
INS:
- Bersart Berisha
- Carl Valeri
- Matthieu Delpierre
- Daniel Georgievski
- Fahid Ben Khalfallah
OUTS:
- James Troisi
- Tom Rogic
- Pablo Contreras
- Adama Traore
Newcastle Jets
Coach: Phil Stubbins
INS:
- Marcos Flores
- Jeronimo Neumann
- Billy Celeski
- Adrian Madaschi
- Jonny Steele
- Edson Montano
OUTS:
- Emile Heskey
- Adam Taggart
- Ruben Zadkovich
- Josh Brillante
- Michael Bridges
- James Brown
Perth Glory
Coach: Kenny Lowe
INS:
- Andy Keogh
- Youssouf Hersi
- Mitch Nichols
- Richard Garcia
- Ruben Zadkovich
- Dino Djulbic
- Diogo Ferreira
OUTS:
- William Gallas
- Shane Smeltz
- Steven McGarry
- Travis Dodd
- Jacob Burns
Sydney FC
Coach: Graham Arnold
INS:
- Shane Smeltz
- Alex Brosque
- Marc Janko
- Bernie Ibini
OUTS:
- Alessandro Del Piero
- Ranko Despotovic
- Richard Garcia
- Matt Thompson
Wellington Pheonix
Coach: Ernie Merrick
INS:
- Michael McGlinchey
- Nathan Burns
- Roly Bonevecia
OUTS:
- Carlos Hernandez
- Stein Huysegems
- Leo Bertos
Western Sydney Wanderers
Coach: Tony Popovic
INS:
- Vitor Saba
- Romeo Castelen
- Seyi Adeleke
- Antony Golex
- Brendan Hamill
OUTS:
- Shinji Ono
- Youssouf Hersi
- Aaron Mooy
- Jerome Polenz
- Adam DApuzzo
- Michael Beauchamp
Listed above are just some key ins and outs, with a few omitted.
Adelaide United: A lot is going right for this club. Gombau has had a long but successful pre-season continuing to solidify his possession game plan that mesmerized opponents all throughout the last campaign. What some people have not seen is that he is also strengthened his backroom staff with more staff from his days at Barcelona. He has not had to tinker too much with his squad, and rightly so. We do find yet another attacking Spanish player who will undoubtedly add more flair and danger to this side. They will look to get to a better start this year and keep on improving, with the title well in reach.
Brisbane Roar: Reigning champs with some good pre-season form. But Berisha, Berisha, Berisha. How will they go without him? Add full back Ivan Franjic to the list of departures too. They have signed Mensur Kurtisi effectively as his replacement. Expectations will be high for him and the squad this year, and only time will tell to see just how much these two key departures meant for this side.
Central Coast Mariners: Phil Moss with full pre-season under his belt, and after the relative success of last year despite saying goodbye to Arnold, I imagine he will not be changing too much with tactics this season. Transfer activity maybe a tad underwhelming, so questions will be asked about depth, especially in the final third. Top 6 expected.
Melbourne City: What has not been said about this club? New owners, new identity, half a new squad. Expectations are through the roof for this side both from their new mates in the Middle East, and the bookies. David Villas impact (albeit it for 10 games) cannot be understated, while the world class inclusions of Duff and Koren are already working really well in the pre-season. Add Mooy and Paartalu with huge talent; that is one midfield not to be reckoned with. Questions may be asked in the defence, but the potential for this side is scary.
Melbourne Victory: Gunning for the title this year without a doubt. Did well last season, missing out on the final by a whisker. They have added some quality inclusions all across the park, adding huge depth to this side. Berisha up front, supported by Pain, Finkler, Milligan, Valeri; the goals will flow. With Muscat getting improving every day and looking more and more settled, they are my title favourites.
Newcastle Jets: A lot of questions to be asked here. Though some class inclusions, there are doubts as to whether they truly make up for the outs. Faith has been placed, temporarily, in the coach, but fans and culture seem to be slowly dipping. On field, some vast improvements need to be made in order to realise the potential of the many young talents.
Perth Glory: Out with the young, in with old. Yes you read that correctly. Lowe has adopted for experience in all his inclusions, in a bid for short term success. This could be a recipe for disaster, though it might just work if luck goes their way, maybe. Hersi and Keogh will be forces to be reckoned with, while Nicols, Garcia and Zadkovich definitely know their way around the A-League. How this team gels together will be vital in determining their success.
Sydney: Attack, attack. Arnold has come in, identified the area of improvement, and added accordingly. Del Piero has done his time, so in come Smeltz, Ibini, Brosque and Janko. This side performed well at times last year, scaringly well at others, and even better this pre-season. Will be interesting to see who starts each match, but fans will have high expectations.
Wellington Phoenix: Ernie Merrick is an A-League winning coach, with a team so close to the bottom for so much of last season. Though he is a smart coach. He is tipped to move to a defensive tactic, while adding attacking talent to ensure the goals come when they need. Still improvements to be made, but they can pull out some superb performances as seen sporadically last year.
Western Sydney Wanderers: Who needs Ono, Hersi, Mooy, Beauchamp, Polenz and DApuzzo? They are in the Asian Champions League Grand Final, and are showing no signs of slowing down despite these key outs. A lot of credit goes to the manner in which Popovic is coaching. This side is very lucky. Saba is tipped to be their main playmaker, while we will see how the other inclusions fit in to the side.
Luigis tips:
1. Melbourne Victory
2. Adelaide
3. WSW
4. Brisbane
5. Melbourne City
6. Sydney
7. CCM
8. Perth
9. Wellington
10. Newcastle
Golden Boot: Berisha, followed closely by David Williams, Cirio and whoever plays the most games from Sydneys strikers.
Also be sure to check this out if you have got a spare 52 minutes. http://theworldgame.sbs.com.au/video/338099779656/A-League-2014-2015-Season-Preview A nice preview by SBS that covers most grounds for all clubs. Or otherwise, if you prefer reading (and do not have 52 minutes), check this out by FourFourTwo, very nice. http://www.fourfourtwo.com/au/news/fourfourtwo-ultimate-league-form-guide?page=0%2C0
Round 1 Fixtures
Fri 10 October 7.30pm: Victory v WSW
Sat 11 October 5.00pm: CCM v Newcastle
Sat 11 October 7.45pm: Sydney v Melbourne City
Sun 12 October 3.00pm: Wellington v Perth
Sun 12 October 5.00pm: Brisbane v Adelaide
Gr8 right up Luigi, can't wait for Friday night! Think Newcastle might be a suprise package, J. Neumann and Flores are both class.
Gotta love everybody writing us off, just like every other season, especially when we were robbed of the title
Keogh is elite, Hersi very good, Nichols+Ferreira+Garcia all good additions. That fat piece of shower who never ran in Smeltz gone is about time, Gallas was horse-shower, then a few old retirees where only McGarry was any good (flower you Jacob Burns you indisciplined dickhead who can't do anything good).
And we're getting Ruka btw :3
Kenny Lowe is the right man to lead us and we'll be back up there again
Vuko (Elite)
Jamo (Elite), Thwaite (Elite), Dulbic (Alright), Risdon (Elite)
Garcia (Pretty good), Hersi (Great), Nichols (Pretty Good), Sidnei (Elite but inconsistent)
Keogh (Elite), Ruka (Elite)
Quote from: Jukes on October 08, 2014, 05:58:33 PM
Vuko
Jamieson, Thwaite, Dulbic, Risdon
Garcia, Hersi, Nichols, Sidnei
Keogh, Ruka
Don't get me wrong. That's a good team and could have potential to tear us all a new one. But look at the
new players to the line up who, despite a pre-season, will still need time to adjust to a new team, coach, city & climate, tactics etc.
Sidnei seems likely to miss round 1 through injury, and you don't have
Ruka quite yet ;)
It's about if the side can hit the ground running from round 1, and whether these players connect well and adopt a cohesive game plan. Your side does look better than last year, though i'd still rather have Smeltz than verse him :P
Quote from: Jackross10 on October 08, 2014, 05:51:14 PM
Gr8 right up Luigi, can't wait for Friday night! Think Newcastle might be a suprise package, J. Neumann and Flores are both class.
Cheers man:) Good inclusions indeed, but will they make up for the players lost? Only time will tell.
This season is gonna be good, have a great feeling about it. #Glory4top4
This is how I think how the ladder will end up looking;
1. Brisbane
2. Melbourne City
3. Adelaide
4. Melbourne Victory
5. Western Sydney
6. Newcastle
7. Sydney
8. Central Coast
9. Perth
10. Wellington
Team lists are in http://www.a-league.com.au/article/hyundai-a-league-ins-and-outs/1roejxgrzgho1sd13do7evsbu
Notable Injury Abseentees
Juric
Spiranovic
Zadkovic
Sidnei
Theo
Notable International Duty Absentees
Milligan
Topor-Stanley
Ibini
Janko
Abbas
Well done Luigi Zadkovich is named in squad then says he's unavailable underneath nearly caught me out ;)
Quote from: shaker on October 09, 2014, 07:39:51 PM
Well done Luigi Zadkovich is named in squad then says he's unavailable underneath nearly caught me out ;)
haha yeah i thought i read multiple sources anyway that said he was unavailable!
Last sleep! Come on you boys in blue
Quote from: Jackross10 on October 09, 2014, 09:23:36 PM
Last sleep! Come on you boys in blue
I think you are confused... The roar wear orange!
4 hours <3
Going to the game tonight... only a few hours away :)
C'mon Victory! 8)
haha how easy was that
God 6 months of watching footy and NFL 24/7 and I'm bored after 20 minutes
Besart!! What a legend 8)
that was wicked
Lel WSW
very nice Victory. very nice.
Best night in the terrace. Was electric
Villa starting on the bench, can't wait to see how he goes. Will come on @ HT.
not a bad start at all City ;D
DAVID VILLA :-* :-* :-*
We are top of the league, say we are top of the league!
BANG
1-0 away, great cross Nicholls and delicate finish by Keogh.
Keep going lads, lets prove the doubters wrong.
Keogh >>>>>>>>>>> Villa, Del Piero, Thompson, Smeltz
Quote from: Jukes on October 12, 2014, 04:15:11 PM
Keogh >>>>>>>>>>> Villa, Del Piero, Thompson >>>>>>>>>>> Smeltz >>>>>>>>>>> Berish!t
Quote from: elephants on October 12, 2014, 04:24:34 PM
Quote from: Jukes on October 12, 2014, 04:15:11 PM
Keogh > McLaren >>>>>>> Villa, Del Piero, Thompson >>>>>>>>>>> Smeltz >>>>>>>>>>> Mario flowering Jardel >>>>>>>>>>>>> Berish!t
Haha YES. What a finish.
Cracking game between Brisbane and Adelaide, stoked to win again up there though, United looking good for a top four finish already
Just love the work of Bruce Djite, sad when he left but rapt he came back home! WHAT A STRIKE!
Quote from: Jukes on October 08, 2014, 05:58:33 PM
And we're getting Ruka btw :3
Nikita Rukavytsya signs for Western Sydney Wanderers, knocking back A-League rivals Perth Glory
Almost fell asleep at the Sydney FC game. Both teams looked rusty.
Too much room to give Villa but still a great goal.
Antonis volley would have brought the house down had it gone in
Quote from: tabs on October 13, 2014, 05:37:58 PM
Almost fell asleep at the Sydney FC game. Both teams looked rusty.
Too much room to give Villa but still a great goal.
Antonis volley would have brought the house down had it gone in
considering the circumstances; i'd almost agree actually.
Quote from: Luigi197 on October 13, 2014, 10:15:54 PM
Quote from: tabs on October 13, 2014, 05:37:58 PM
Almost fell asleep at the Sydney FC game. Both teams looked rusty.
Too much room to give Villa but still a great goal.
Antonis volley would have brought the house down had it gone in
considering the circumstances; i'd almost agree actually.
It was a dreadful game. There were onl 3 good moments, boths goals and the volley
Quote from: tabs on October 14, 2014, 12:25:44 PM
Quote from: Luigi197 on October 13, 2014, 10:15:54 PM
Quote from: tabs on October 13, 2014, 05:37:58 PM
Almost fell asleep at the Sydney FC game. Both teams looked rusty.
Too much room to give Villa but still a great goal.
Antonis volley would have brought the house down had it gone in
considering the circumstances; i'd almost agree actually.
It was a dreadful game. There were onl 3 good moments, boths goals and the volley
James Brown's crossbar! :o
Dugandzic -.-
Big match against the reds tonight, pretty confident we can get at least 1if not the 3 points. Hoping Besart scores again, already have a man crush!
Hearing about 1500 supporters are travelling which is very good!
Will be interesting watching soccer at AO..
Come on Melbourne !
Quote from: Jackross10 on October 17, 2014, 05:03:11 PM
Big match against the reds tonight, pretty confident we can get at least 1if not the 3 points. Hoping Besart scores again, already have a man crush!
Hearing about 1500 supporters are travelling which is very good!
Will be interesting watching soccer at AO..
Come on Melbourne !
Looking forward to watching this game have a feeling it might be a goal fest :P
Soooo, Brisbane still do this dive/pretend to be injured thing? Cool.
BRIshowerSTAIN BLOWN THE flower OUT
;D
Andy Keogh father my children.
#spoonbrizbane #donachiegoldenboot
Melbourne City to win the derby 2-1.
either way i'm excited for the match
CITY CITY CITY CITY CITY
Our time to shine baby.
City 3-2 in a thirller. Victory to get a red card. Villa brace.
Brishowerstain lelelel
Quote from: Jukes on October 24, 2014, 10:07:22 PM
Brishowerstain lelelel
ouft Sydney in form!
actually did tip Sydney :3
http://www.foxsports.com.au/football/a-league/josh-kennedy-to-melbourne-city-socceroos-hero-to-join-as-david-villa-exits-aleague/story-e6frf4ju-1227101865571 (http://www.foxsports.com.au/football/a-league/josh-kennedy-to-melbourne-city-socceroos-hero-to-join-as-david-villa-exits-aleague/story-e6frf4ju-1227101865571)
:o
Don't know if Jamie Young will last till they get Theo back he will have to do a lot better than last night
Quote from: nrich102 on October 25, 2014, 11:28:34 AM
http://www.foxsports.com.au/football/a-league/josh-kennedy-to-melbourne-city-socceroos-hero-to-join-as-david-villa-exits-aleague/story-e6frf4ju-1227101865571 (http://www.foxsports.com.au/football/a-league/josh-kennedy-to-melbourne-city-socceroos-hero-to-join-as-david-villa-exits-aleague/story-e6frf4ju-1227101865571)
:o
#upgrade
Quote from: shaker on October 25, 2014, 12:58:02 PM
Don't know if Jamie Young will last till they get Theo back he will have to do a lot better than last night
I miss when he was Theoklitos :'(
QuoteWhat's the time?
Oh it's 5-2!
Nah jokes it's 9.43
Classic
Besart and Archie. One team in Melbourne!
BESSSSSART!
THE GREATEST STRIKER IN THE WORLD.
Last night was one crazy party. Dominant performance.
"Get ebola you barrel boys"
Worth conceding just for that gem from a mate of mine on fb :3
Go u REDS, Ohhh Yeah
Well done to Wanderers on the 1-0 win. Pity they are on the bottom of the table
my word the A-League has gone up a notch this season.
My early money would be on another Adelaide United v Melbourne Victory GF. They've both looked sublime in patches and have good depth.... but very early days and as we've already seen there are some very strong teams and just about anybody can beat anybody on their day.
And Besart Berisha has to be without question the most prolific striker this league has ever had.
Wellington Phoenix have been an early surprise packet; Newcastle look pretty shoddy and early Wooden Spoon favourites; and Brisbane and WSW have struggled early so will need to lift. WSW will though once their ACL tournament is done and dusted. Hope they win it!!
Quote from: Tominator on October 28, 2014, 11:01:24 AM
my word the A-League has gone up a notch this season.
My early money would be on another Adelaide United v Melbourne Victory GF. They've both looked sublime in patches and have good depth.... but very early days and as we've already seen there are some very strong teams and just about anybody can beat anybody on their day.
And Besart Berisha has to be without question the most prolific striker this league has ever had.
Wellington Phoenix have been an early surprise packet; Newcastle look pretty shoddy and early Wooden Spoon favourites; and Brisbane and WSW have struggled early so will need to lift. WSW will though once their ACL tournament is done and dusted. Hope they win it!!
don't forget about Sydney FC :o
We are top of the league, say we are top of the league!
(http://i62.tinypic.com/16c5mvm.jpg)
Who needs Berisha when we have Pain? 8)
When Do Melbourne play Sydney.
I'm more interested in watching them than Brisbane at the moment. I've lost my wheels to the bandwagon
Quote from: Jackross10 on November 03, 2014, 10:09:03 PM
We are top of the league, say we are top of the league!
(http://i62.tinypic.com/16c5mvm.jpg)
Did you take this?
Quote from: Master Q on November 04, 2014, 12:34:39 AM
Quote from: Jackross10 on November 03, 2014, 10:09:03 PM
We are top of the league, say we are top of the league!
(http://i62.tinypic.com/16c5mvm.jpg)
Did you take this?
Yeah I took it MQ. Quick panorama on my iphone turned out to be perfect. Needed to be very quick because I didn't want the flare to go out :)
I was sitting around the blue north face banner
Top in November eh? Let me know if you beat United! Then you can start bragging about this season :P
Quote from: tbagrocks on November 04, 2014, 06:09:57 PM
Top in November eh? Let me know if you beat United! Then you can start bragging about this season :P
We drew :P
Quote from: Master Q on November 04, 2014, 05:54:42 PM
I was sitting around the blue north face banner
Hopefully not sitting ;) but yeah, what an atmosphere :)
"Everyone says the A-League is getting better every year but then you realise that Kenny Lowe is on top of the table."
Classic, #We'reGoingToWinTheLeague
Somewhat related, flowering hate how fox forces you to watch ads before a video, so if you have adblock running you can't watch it all. Damn corporate sluts.
Quote from: Jukes on November 09, 2014, 07:44:51 PM
"Everyone says the A-League is getting better every year but then you realise that Kenny Lowe is on top of the table."
Classic, #We'reGoingToWinTheLeague
Somewhat related, flowering hate how fox forces you to watch ads before a video, so if you have adblock running you can't watch it all. Damn corporate sluts.
hahahaha i like both of those. Perth gee proving me wrong so far! but haven't been 100% convincing yet so we'll see how they shape as the season wears on.
and lol about Foxsports videos i swear that's my number one issue in life too ahahah. on facebook too they should just post the video instead of a link to a very slow site with ads.
Andy Keogh's a gun but I'm still not 100% convinced about the rest of Perth's squad, although their early form has been pretty good
I still think Victory are the favourites for the title, their squad is jam-packed with talent
Adelaide should've taken the three points against Sydney on Friday night, clearly the better side, just didn't take their chances. AUFC are very underrated in the media too
But yeah, those four sides are the clear frontrunners at this early stage
Haha I think we'll finish top 3 and find some way to flower it all in finals. Its the Glory way really.
Quote from: elephants on November 09, 2014, 11:49:16 PM
Haha I think we'll finish top 3 and find some way to flower it all in finals. Its the Glory way really.
Pretty much! Im still surpirsed we have managed to draw some of those wins in the dying minutes.. always happens!
I like our side but!
Keogh leading the way. Also Nicholls, Thwaite, Ridson all great players! De Silva is a star when he subs on! Heski is a bit hot and cold. Lacks pace too. VUkavich is a hack... Which could prove to be a problem down the track...
Sydney is very lucky to come away with the 0-0 draw on Friday night against the Crows
The roar will still find a way to win, heard it here first ;) ;)
Would the Derby 20/12 be sold out?
Wanted to go but looks difficult.
Quote from: tor01doc on November 10, 2014, 07:38:55 PM
Would the Derby 20/12 be sold out?
Wanted to go but looks difficult.
At AAMI? If so, definitely. Book tickets now if you want to go.
AAMI yep.
Might go to Etihad in February instead.
IN JOSEP WE TRUST !!!!!!!!
flower off, Janjetovic.
He's killing it, can't see us getting the ball past him tonight.
Brisbane finally won. Had to come sooner or later and not a better chance to than against a VERY unconvincing Jets.
Adelaide won as most would've predicted. But did have to rely on a 94th winner.
Draw in the Big Blue. Half of their encounters in their history have been draws, but albeit despite missing key personnel, it could have been a goal fest if it weren't for some brilliant defending and keeping.
WSW lose again. A confidence filled Perth side continued their brilliant run against a very different looking Wanderers.
City v CCM.
WSW v CCM.
Newcastle were terrible the worst performance of any team so far this season
GLORRRRYYYYYYYYYYY #GoingToWinTheLeague #WAGOAT
Funny thing is though that this season I won't have been able to go to a game until the 20th of December, pretty much every game manages to clash with my (American) football games that I can't miss :3
Just saw on twitter madrid, inter and city coming to Australia ?
Quote from: strikes91 on November 16, 2014, 11:09:46 PM
Just saw on twitter madrid, inter and city coming to Australia ?
Yep. All will be in Melbourne I think.
Quote from: JROO8 on November 15, 2014, 08:22:25 PM
flower off, Janjetovic.
He's killing it, can't see us getting the ball past him tonight.
Both keepers did well that night. could have easily gone either way
Hoping Besart bags a couple tonight against his old team. C'mon Melbourne!
GLORY GLORY
Quote from: elephants on November 21, 2014, 11:44:38 PM
GLORY GLORY
far out... form is something amazing isn't it.
though special shoutout to LADkovich
Quote from: Luigi197 on November 22, 2014, 11:50:16 AM
Quote from: elephants on November 21, 2014, 11:44:38 PM
GLORY GLORY
far out... form is something amazing isn't it.
though special shoutout to LADkovich
There's a big difference between form and having the best team in the league m80
Quote from: Jukes on November 22, 2014, 03:56:42 PM
Quote from: Luigi197 on November 22, 2014, 11:50:16 AM
Quote from: elephants on November 21, 2014, 11:44:38 PM
GLORY GLORY
far out... form is something amazing isn't it.
though special shoutout to LADkovich
There's a big difference between form and having the best team in the league m80
now now let's not get too ahead of ourselves ;)
Table doesn't liiiiie <3
Yep, look who's undefeated ;)
Quote from: stew42 on November 22, 2014, 09:46:44 PM
Yep, look who's undefeated ;)
I'd rather have a defeat and two extra wins ;)
So, apparently Mike Mulkey has been sacked :o
Quote from: JROO8 on November 23, 2014, 02:13:17 PM
So, apparently Mike Mulkey has been sacked :o
a shame really :/
Quote from: JROO8 on November 23, 2014, 02:13:17 PM
So, apparently Mike Mulkey has been sacked :o
That will solve everything , soccer is a little bit to hasty for my liking :o
Quote from: Biff Tannen on November 22, 2014, 03:56:42 PM
Quote from: Luigi197 on November 22, 2014, 11:50:16 AM
Quote from: elephants on November 21, 2014, 11:44:38 PM
GLORY GLORY
far out... form is something amazing isn't it.
though special shoutout to LADkovich
There's a big difference between form and having the best team in the league m80
Agreed let's see if your form can continue . The best team In the league (Victory) will be tough to beat.
Quote from: Winnie the Pooh on November 25, 2014, 05:38:52 PM
Quote from: Biff Tannen on November 22, 2014, 03:56:42 PM
Quote from: Luigi197 on November 22, 2014, 11:50:16 AM
Quote from: elephants on November 21, 2014, 11:44:38 PM
GLORY GLORY
far out... form is something amazing isn't it.
though special shoutout to LADkovich
There's a big difference between form and having the best team in the league m80
Agreed let's see if your form can continue . The best team In the league (Victory) will be tough to beat.
Glory can't beat themselves mate
Quote from: elephants on November 25, 2014, 07:41:07 PM
Quote from: Winnie the Pooh on November 25, 2014, 05:38:52 PM
Quote from: Biff Tannen on November 22, 2014, 03:56:42 PM
Quote from: Luigi197 on November 22, 2014, 11:50:16 AM
Quote from: elephants on November 21, 2014, 11:44:38 PM
GLORY GLORY
far out... form is something amazing isn't it.
though special shoutout to LADkovich
There's a big difference between form and having the best team in the league m80
Agreed let's see if your form can continue . The best team In the league (Victory) will be tough to beat.
Glory can't beat themselves mate
They won't beat anyone come the finals. If they make it that is.
Quote from: Winnie the Pooh on November 26, 2014, 01:05:18 AM
Quote from: elephants on November 25, 2014, 07:41:07 PM
Quote from: Winnie the Pooh on November 25, 2014, 05:38:52 PM
Quote from: Biff Tannen on November 22, 2014, 03:56:42 PM
Quote from: Luigi197 on November 22, 2014, 11:50:16 AM
Quote from: elephants on November 21, 2014, 11:44:38 PM
GLORY GLORY
far out... form is something amazing isn't it.
though special shoutout to LADkovich
There's a big difference between form and having the best team in the league m80
Agreed let's see if your form can continue . The best team In the league (Victory) will be tough to beat.
Glory can't beat themselves mate
They won't beat anyone come the finals. If they make it that is.
Sorry man, its a bit hard to hear you from the TOP OF THE TABLE.
Quote from: elephants on November 26, 2014, 01:08:02 AM
Sorry man, its a bit hard to hear you from the TOP OF THE TABLE.
Quote from: Winnie the Pooh on November 26, 2014, 01:05:18 AM
Quote from: elephants on November 25, 2014, 07:41:07 PM
Quote from: Winnie the Pooh on November 25, 2014, 05:38:52 PM
Quote from: Biff Tannen on November 22, 2014, 03:56:42 PM
Quote from: Luigi197 on November 22, 2014, 11:50:16 AM
Quote from: elephants on November 21, 2014, 11:44:38 PM
GLORY GLORY
far out... form is something amazing isn't it.
though special shoutout to LADkovich
There's a big difference between form and having the best team in the league m80
Agreed let's see if your form can continue . The best team In the league (Victory) will be tough to beat.
Glory can't beat themselves mate
They won't beat anyone come the finals. If they make it that is.
What are we already 6-1 or something.. Gonna be hard to not make the finals from here. Gonna need to throw games to not make it. Glory premiers 2015# wahtttttttt!
Ill just wait till the end of the year.
they are "an accident waiting to happen"
from a Victory and former Roar fan (until Berisha left) lets talk when you win one.
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they are "an accident waiting to happen"
Based on what? You're great at throwing opinions and theories around hey...
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they are "an accident waiting to happen"
Based on what? You're great at throwing opinions and theories around hey...
years and years of disappointment from my glory friends who go to ever single game. Have looked really strong numerous times to fall down at the pointy end of the season. Have had too many good lists not to have won a single A league season.
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Ill just wait till the end of the year.
they are "an accident waiting to happen"
from a Victory and former Roar fan (until Berisha left) lets talk when you win one.
Berisha??? You mean that flopper #discgraceofahumanbeing
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Ill just wait till the end of the year.
they are "an accident waiting to happen"
from a Victory and former Roar fan (until Berisha left) lets talk when you win one.
Berisha??? You mean that flopper #discgraceofahumanbeing
two time championship winner you mean.
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Ill just wait till the end of the year.
they are "an accident waiting to happen"
from a Victory and former Roar fan (until Berisha left) lets talk when you win one.
Berisha??? You mean that flopper #discgraceofahumanbeing
two time championship winner you mean.
2000 time flopper
Besart will keep them championshipless.
Quote from: strikes91 on November 26, 2014, 11:40:35 PM
Besart will keep them championshipless.
Sooo, presumably you support Victory now?
@Holz, I didn't realise history determined all future endeavours! News to me!
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Besart will keep them championshipless.
Sooo, presumably you support Victory now?
@Holz, I didn't realise history determined all future endeavours! News to me!
eww no.
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Besart will keep them championshipless.
Sooo, presumably you support Victory now?
@Holz, I didn't realise history determined all future endeavours! News to me!
Happy to wait for them to prove me right. Have nothing against glory but as an organisation they have proven to fall down a lot.
The bookmakers know their stuff and there is a reason they are 4th favourites to win this year.
If history doesn't determine future endeavours than being top shouldnt mean anything either.
I don't think they have the best list and they dont have the best organisation.
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If history doesn't determine future endeavours than being top shouldnt mean anything either.
Hahahahhaa omfg I hope you're joking. When there has been a list turnover of about 70% each year for the last 5 years, looking at past results is pointless.
This team, that is out there and together right now is top of the table. That is why it means something.
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If history doesn't determine future endeavours than being top shouldnt mean anything either.
Hahahahhaa omfg I hope you're joking. When there has been a list turnover of about 70% each year for the last 5 years, looking at past results is pointless.
This team, that is out there and together right now is top of the table. That is why it means something.
Just using your words ele ;)
Great thing is in a few months we will have the answer
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If history doesn't determine future endeavours than being top shouldnt mean anything either.
Hahahahhaa omfg I hope you're joking. When there has been a list turnover of about 70% each year for the last 5 years, looking at past results is pointless.
This team, that is out there and together right now is top of the table. That is why it means something.
Just using your words ele ;)
Great thing is in a few months we will have the answer
Difference is, my words actually made sense :P
We have recruited well. Number 1 goal sneak Keogh is making a big difference.. Glory have played well in previous years and just had trouble slotting goals... Plenty of chances but a good finisher is what we have lacked. FFA cup finalists too. Cant complain there. Erybody just love to h8 glory!
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Quote from: Winnie the Pooh on November 27, 2014, 12:05:50 AM
If history doesn't determine future endeavours than being top shouldnt mean anything either.
Hahahahhaa omfg I hope you're joking. When there has been a list turnover of about 70% each year for the last 5 years, looking at past results is pointless.
This team, that is out there and together right now is top of the table. That is why it means something.
Just using your words ele ;)
Great thing is in a few months we will have the answer
Difference is, my words actually made sense :P
Lets see who ends up correct.
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Quote from: Winnie the Pooh on November 27, 2014, 12:05:50 AM
If history doesn't determine future endeavours than being top shouldnt mean anything either.
Hahahahhaa omfg I hope you're joking. When there has been a list turnover of about 70% each year for the last 5 years, looking at past results is pointless.
This team, that is out there and together right now is top of the table. That is why it means something.
Just using your words ele ;)
Great thing is in a few months we will have the answer
Difference is, my words actually made sense :P
Lets see who ends up correct.
No, no, you're missing the point haha
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Quote from: Winnie the Pooh on November 27, 2014, 12:05:50 AM
If history doesn't determine future endeavours than being top shouldnt mean anything either.
Hahahahhaa omfg I hope you're joking. When there has been a list turnover of about 70% each year for the last 5 years, looking at past results is pointless.
This team, that is out there and together right now is top of the table. That is why it means something.
Just using your words ele ;)
Great thing is in a few months we will have the answer
Difference is, my words actually made sense :P
Lets see who ends up correct.
No, no, you're missing the point haha
I'm not , too many times have I seen promise from glory to end up with no result. My friends are die hard glory fans , seen them get hurt year after year. Will happen again.
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Quote from: Winnie the Pooh on November 27, 2014, 12:05:50 AM
If history doesn't determine future endeavours than being top shouldnt mean anything either.
Hahahahhaa omfg I hope you're joking. When there has been a list turnover of about 70% each year for the last 5 years, looking at past results is pointless.
This team, that is out there and together right now is top of the table. That is why it means something.
Just using your words ele ;)
Great thing is in a few months we will have the answer
Difference is, my words actually made sense :P
Lets see who ends up correct.
No, no, you're missing the point haha
I'm not , too many times have I seen promise from glory to end up with no result. My friends are die hard glory fans , seen them get hurt year after year. Will happen again.
I'm saying history doesn't count for anything. You're saying if thats the case then the ladder is irrelevant. Dafuq!?
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Quote from: Winnie the Pooh on November 27, 2014, 12:05:50 AM
If history doesn't determine future endeavours than being top shouldnt mean anything either.
Hahahahhaa omfg I hope you're joking. When there has been a list turnover of about 70% each year for the last 5 years, looking at past results is pointless.
This team, that is out there and together right now is top of the table. That is why it means something.
Just using your words ele ;)
Great thing is in a few months we will have the answer
Difference is, my words actually made sense :P
Lets see who ends up correct.
No, no, you're missing the point haha
I'm not , too many times have I seen promise from glory to end up with no result. My friends are die hard glory fans , seen them get hurt year after year. Will happen again.
I'm saying history doesn't count for anything. You're saying if thats the case then the ladder is irrelevant. Dafuq!?
You can't say history counts for naught than say the ladder position shows how good they are as the ladder is based on history.
Haha come on Holz! by history he means the previous years. Of course a ladder is determined by the history.
I'm face-palming so god damn hard right now haha.
MOST OF OUR SQUAD HAS CHANGED FROM RECENT SEASONS. OUR SQUAD HASNT CHANGED SINCE ROUND 1.
I seriously don't know if you're serious or if you're just taking the piss :P
Quote from: elephants on November 27, 2014, 01:23:51 PM
I'm face-palming so god damn hard right now haha.
MOST OF OUR SQUAD HAS CHANGED FROM RECENT SEASONS. OUR SQUAD HASNT CHANGED SINCE ROUND 1.
I seriously don't know if you're serious or if you're just taking the piss :P
your organisation still has the same issues it has always had. its always been more than the list. Have had good lists in the past.
you still have the same owner and questionable coaching structure that has always existed. the game is not won just on your squad if it was you should have 1-2 wins by now.
I'm not even going to bother dude :p
Kenny Lowe is a new coach,, hes doing a decent jjob haha! Tony Sage cant really determine how they play or what they do. He just pays the bills lol!
Your killing us here Holz lol!
Quote from: noto07 on November 27, 2014, 02:35:56 PM
Kenny Lowe is a new coach,, hes doing a decent jjob haha! Tony Sage cant really determine how they play or what they do. He just pays the bills lol!
Your killing us here Holz lol!
was trying to kill the hype after seeing my friends get hurt year after year.
stuff it
Glory have this in the bag, your top of the ladder, its all but certain.
Haha, I simply stated facts though? :p
Haha I could see what was going on here.
On one hand, Perth's current list and form is great that does give a level of confidence in making finals.
On the other hand, previous year collapses would be considered... but only if they had the same coach and players. Which is not true.
I come to doubt how much influence Owners or backroom staff have had in previous collapses. Coz if that were true, surely they would've been gone with the previous coaches too.
Summary: Form and list right now points to a promising (but not secured by any means) season. Any team is capable of choking, but reasons from previous seasons change every time.
Peace out. Melb City for the win.
Good game between Victory and Adelaide first half , then little spat , please just play the game and now some poor acting , starting to get into soccer a bit more but this acting like they have been shot with the slightest contact just turns me back off this game >:(
My lad and I laughed when the pitch was littered with bodies.
Get up. Play the game.
Admittedly it was a great edgy match.
Must get to one soon.
Good fun last night, terrace was great, the tifo looked pretty mint!
BRISBANE GETTING BTFO BY THE BEST TEAM IN THE UNIVERSE
Quote from: Biff Tannen on November 29, 2014, 06:24:15 PM
BRISBANE GETTING BTFO BY THE BEST TEAM IN THE UNIVERSE
Mate, pls. Its clearly a fluke. We aren't going to win anything. Lucky to make finals, remember?
Good game Victory v United, and being a Adelaide supporter, I unfortunately thought Victory thoroughly deserved the win :(
Still dislike MuscRAT with a passion though :-X
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BRISBANE GETTING BTFO BY THE BEST TEAM IN THE UNIVERSE
Mate, pls. Its clearly a fluke. We aren't going to win anything. Lucky to make finals, remember?
I think you will make finals, probably not the grandfinal, if they do I'm tipping runnerup.
Yeahhhh early stages.. Injuries could still hurt.. Hershey got shot down by a sniper in the crowd lol! That hammy should see him miss 6 weeks+ id say!
Holy flower. The ref is having a flowering laugh
CHEATS GETTING BLOWN THE FLOWER OUT
Griffiths and Keogh <3
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that "handball" was not a penalty in a million years... A-League refs are just laughable seriously
Haven't seen the Perth penalty but heard that was another iffy call
AHAHAHAH yes glory!!! I know that ref... Old work aqqaintance lol. Was raging after that first penalty! Then laughing when we awarded the second... Celebrated hard when Keogh nailed it.. But originally thought he missed it when it hit the keepers foot!
this is ridiculous. fix ya shower cameras!
hey look at that. I'm claiming it :P
yeuh
floodgates - open
CCM are shower
ere we go; ere we go... ;D
Melbourne boys! Georgievski, what a goal ::)
does anyone else think that Melbourne Victory could be the Chelsea of the A-League?
Power club; wear blue; have fantastic depth; fear factor; egotistical managers; and are undefeated
I'm not suggesting that MVFC can go undefeated for the entire season - Adelaide, Sydney and Perth are genuine challengers - but they are looking very strong at this stage.
Nah, Chelsea is good, unlike Victory.
Victory fans aren't 100% plastic
So who's the A League equivalent of Man United? Laying shower on everyone when they're up and about but disappearing completely when shower gets tough?
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So who's the A League equivalent of Man United? Laying shower on everyone when they're up and about but disappearing completely when shower gets tough?
Glory fans when they lose again this year
except man u actually win. ;)
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So who's the A League equivalent of Man United? Laying shower on everyone when they're up and about but disappearing completely when shower gets tough?
Glory fans when they lose again this year
except man u actually win. ;)
Beats Sydney away - still loses.
Alright mate :p
Id say glory are the man city. Gonna take the tittle :p
ARCHIEEEE
Could of shared them fantasy wise greedy barbie
Thanks for the draw, our lead at the top continues to grow :D
FFA Cup on Tuesday night, predictions?
My tip (and hope) is Adelaide 2-1 Perth ... in extra time ... but I'm slightly biased 8)
1-1 in normal time. No goal in extra, goes to penalties and glory win with Keogh to seal the deal on the 5th penalty for us ;)
well played Adelaide, looking a huge threat for the title this year.
Quote from: Holz on December 17, 2014, 01:01:03 PM
well played Adelaide, looking a huge threat for the title this year.
Not if the final is played in Perth ::)
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well played Adelaide, looking a huge threat for the title this year.
Not if the final is played in Perth ::)
than its a lock as glory will be the opponent who fill find a way not to win.
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well played Adelaide, looking a huge threat for the title this year.
Not if the final is played in Perth ::)
than its a lock as glory will be the opponent who fill find a way not to win.
Not again Holz :P. We will have Nicholls and Hershi back by then too ;)
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well played Adelaide, looking a huge threat for the title this year.
Not if the final is played in Perth ::)
than its a lock as glory will be the opponent who fill find a way not to win.
Not again Holz :P. We will have Nicholls and Hershi back by then too ;)
will wait till Adelaide or Victory win the title for my next post about Glory :)
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well played Adelaide, looking a huge threat for the title this year.
Not if the final is played in Perth ::)
than its a lock as glory will be the opponent who fill find a way not to win.
Not again Holz :P. We will have Nicholls and Hershi back by then too ;)
will wait till Adelaide or Victory win the title for my next post about Glory :)
ahaha. You wont be able to resist until then. Glory is all the talk :). Get on board Holz!
About time we got some silverware. Go u Reds
Well done to Adelaide. 3 sleeps until the derby, officially sold out, going to be huge.
One sleep :))
YOU KEOGHING BEAUTY
Ffs shoot!
F|_|K yeah gloryyyy. You beauty !
7 points clear, eat it lelbourne :P
not too fussed. Victory will still make finals and take it out.
Quote from: Holz on January 03, 2015, 04:13:54 PM
not too fussed. Victory will still make finals and take it out.
Liessssssss! :P
Disappointing last night.. I feel we take too long to shoot, especially Barbarouses. I think we need to pass to Besart more aswell, he looked so hungry last night and I think the more we give it to him the more we will score. Also, not sure about Muscat? Using 1 sub in 40 degree heat
Also forgot to add.y money is on Melb City for the title, hate to say it but I reckon they will start finding some v good form now.
Quote from: Jackross10 on January 03, 2015, 07:22:57 PM
Also forgot to add.y money is on Melb City for the title, hate to say it but I reckon they will start finding some v good form now.
nek minnit lose to the mariners
every team seems to be losing games now...except the glory
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Quote from: Jackross10 on January 03, 2015, 07:22:57 PM
Also forgot to add.y money is on Melb City for the title, hate to say it but I reckon they will start finding some v good form now.
nek minnit lose to the mariners
every team seems to be losing games now...except the glory
haha yep, but no-one can back Glory for the title can they? :p
Get on the gloryyyyy training. Toot toot
Wellington looked very good today, Brisbane looked in disarray
Also I've seen 13 year old keepers better than Jamie Young, just saying..
Nathan Coe is unbelievable!
Quote from: JROO8 on January 06, 2015, 09:27:55 PM
Nathan Coe is unbelievable!
How good was he? Carl Valeri too 8)
Quote from: Tominator on January 04, 2015, 11:11:36 PM
Also I've seen 13 year old keepers better than Jamie Young, just saying..
Young is literally the worst keeper in the A-League. No idea why we're playing him instead of Acton. We really need Theo back.
Come on Melbourne! Huge match tonight! :)
inb4 LELbourne
What a week down at the Hunter Valley... thrashed 7-0 to Adelaide; lost Marcos Flores, Andrew Hoole and Scott Gallaway to transfers; the players threatening to boycott training and a revolt against Phil Stubbins. So Stubbins goes to his mate Tinkler up in Brisbane and nek minnit...
3 assistant coaches sacked and 5 players - Adrian Madaschi, captain Kew Jaliens, Billy Celeski, David Carney and Joel Griffiths - all have their contracts terminated.
Newcastle are fast becoming the next Gold Coast United. FFA are gonna have to revoke Tinkler's licence soon.
Something about obese mining magnates and A-League clubs don't go together..
Get rid of Newcastle... Wheres the next team going to come from?
BRING IN THE FNQ HEAT!!!!
Such a train wreck could only happen in the A league ha ha what a joke
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well played Adelaide, looking a huge threat for the title this year.
Not if the final is played in Perth ::)
than its a lock as glory will be the opponent who fill find a way not to win.
Not again Holz :P. We will have Nicholls and Hershi back by then too ;)
will wait till Adelaide or Victory win the title for my next post about Glory :)
Can we have your next post now instead Holz? :P
Perth can't win without cheating lol :P
Saying that, the salary cap is stupid and should be removed. The A League can't be a world class league with it.
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well played Adelaide, looking a huge threat for the title this year.
Not if the final is played in Perth ::)
than its a lock as glory will be the opponent who fill find a way not to win.
Not again Holz :P. We will have Nicholls and Hershi back by then too ;)
will wait till Adelaide or Victory win the title for my next post about Glory :)
Can we have your next post now instead Holz? :P
They haven't won yet, worried about Sydney.
The sad thing is now glory fans will say they would have won without the ban.
Quote from: nrich102 on April 11, 2015, 06:44:45 AM
Perth can't win without cheating lol :P
Saying that, the salary cap is stupid and should be removed. The A League can't be a world class league with it.
Imagine Melbourne City, then think of Newcastle and Central Coast
that's why we have a salary cap
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Quote from: nrich102 on April 11, 2015, 06:44:45 AM
Perth can't win without cheating lol :P
Saying that, the salary cap is stupid and should be removed. The A League can't be a world class league with it.
Imagine Melbourne City, then think of Newcastle and Central Coast
that's why we have a salary cap
Yeah, I can see that. But do we want the aleague to be worldclass or some league nobody's heard about?
lol, so Sydney lose three points and cop a fine but Glory are kicked out of finals?
Sick, seems fair.
Quote from: nrich102 on April 11, 2015, 06:44:45 AM
Perth can't win without cheating lol :P
Saying that, the salary cap is stupid and should be removed. The A League can't be a world class league with it.
;) also the limit on foreigners
Imagine if Gena bought the best ten players in the world at one club :o She wont because she's a cow but
Plus dudes like Cahill could suck up his pride, stop being a greedy dick and come back and play here ::) We need the very best talent we can get and blokes like Cahill aren't helping
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Quote from: nrich102 on April 11, 2015, 06:44:45 AM
Perth can't win without cheating lol :P
Saying that, the salary cap is stupid and should be removed. The A League can't be a world class league with it.
;) also the limit on foreigners
Imagine if Gena bought the best ten players in the world at one club :o She wont because she's a cow but
Plus dudes like Cahill could suck up his pride, stop being a greedy dick and come back and play here ::) We need the very best talent we can get and blokes like Cahill aren't helping
Not only guys like Cahill, but someone like Lucas Niell as well a few years back.
I see why we have all these salary cap things, but if guys like Tinkler want to own sports clubs they kind of deserve to lose...
Clubs will do what they have to do to achieve what they want. If that means getting sold to people with more money I think it will happen.
Quote from: elephants on April 11, 2015, 11:41:06 PM
lol, so Sydney lose three points and cop a fine but Glory are kicked out of finals?
Sick, seems fair.
haters gon hate. If we were based in a state such an melbourne or Sydney, we'd still be battling for top spot over our last couple games!
Ok I finally say it.
As predicted glory do nothing and Melbourne take out the title. The only annoying thing is Perth fans will say it was the ban.
You break the salary cap and still couldnt beat victory.
Quote from: Luigi197 on October 07, 2014, 08:38:02 PM
Luigis tips:
1. Melbourne Victory
2. Adelaide
3. WSW
4. Brisbane
5. Melbourne City
6. Sydney
7. CCM
8. Perth
9. Wellington
10. Newcastle
Golden Boot: Berisha, followed closely by David Williams, Cirio and whoever plays the most games from Sydney's strikers.
^^My tips from before the season.
Compared to the actual results:
1. Victory
2. Sydney
3. Adelaide
4. Wellington
5. City
6. Brisbane
*7. Perth
8. CCM
9. WSW.
10. Newcastle.
Golden Boot: Janko (16), Berisha (15), Burns (13), Keogh (12)
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Not sure how to judge my judgement on Perth. I didn't tip them to make the 6, and well according to the strict rules, they didn't legally? Obviously i overestimated WSW early on and underestimated Wellington and Sydney. But besides that ladder predictions weren't far off. Got Premier and Wooden Spoon winners correct aha. Got so close on tipping Berisha as the golden boot winner, and technically did get Janko right?? Williams and Cirio obviously didn't bag as many as i'd predicted, Cirio with third in the league for assists though.
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Even as a City fan i must congratulate Victory for the win. Thoroughly deserved.
Champions!!!! 8) 8)
Quote from: Holz on May 17, 2015, 07:10:22 PM
The only annoying thing is Perth fans will say it was the ban.
What a ridiculous comment. The ban was the only reason we weren't in finals so we never had a chance to do anything...
Should of been a glory victory grand final. Wouldn't of been a one sided joke if we played.
Tainted tittle for victory. Didn't have to play the best!
Quote from: elephants on May 18, 2015, 01:39:54 PM
Quote from: Holz on May 17, 2015, 07:10:22 PM
The only annoying thing is Perth fans will say it was the ban.
What a ridiculous comment. The ban was the only reason we weren't in finals so we never had a chance to do anything...
see,
even in the finals I dont see you going past Sydney or Melbourne, but now you have this excuse up your sleeve. Victory where the minor premiers regardless of the ban and crushed their opponents in the finals with 2 3-0 victories. there was nothing stopping them, even a glory over the salary cap.
Quote from: Holz on May 21, 2015, 11:03:26 AM
Quote from: elephants on May 18, 2015, 01:39:54 PM
Quote from: Holz on May 17, 2015, 07:10:22 PM
The only annoying thing is Perth fans will say it was the ban.
What a ridiculous comment. The ban was the only reason we weren't in finals so we never had a chance to do anything...
see,
even in the finals I dont see you going past Sydney or Melbourne, but now you have this excuse up your sleeve. Victory where the minor premiers regardless of the ban and crushed their opponents in the finals with 2 3-0 victories. there was nothing stopping them, even a glory over the salary cap.
Sydney suckkk. We would of crushed our way to the gf.
in the 3 times we played victory we won once and the other 2 were draws. Had them covered ezyyyyyyy
Quote from: Holz on May 21, 2015, 11:03:26 AM
Quote from: elephants on May 18, 2015, 01:39:54 PM
Quote from: Holz on May 17, 2015, 07:10:22 PM
The only annoying thing is Perth fans will say it was the ban.
What a ridiculous comment. The ban was the only reason we weren't in finals so we never had a chance to do anything...
see,
even in the finals I dont see you going past Sydney or Melbourne, but now you have this excuse up your sleeve. Victory where the minor premiers regardless of the ban and crushed their opponents in the finals with 2 3-0 victories. there was nothing stopping them, even a glory over the salary cap.
I love when people present their opinion as fact.
"I don't see you beating these teams therefore you wouldn't therefore you're lucky you have an excuse.
Yeah alright m8, tainted title for Victory.
Quote from: elephants on May 21, 2015, 11:48:21 AM
Quote from: Holz on May 21, 2015, 11:03:26 AM
Quote from: elephants on May 18, 2015, 01:39:54 PM
Quote from: Holz on May 17, 2015, 07:10:22 PM
The only annoying thing is Perth fans will say it was the ban.
What a ridiculous comment. The ban was the only reason we weren't in finals so we never had a chance to do anything...
see,
even in the finals I dont see you going past Sydney or Melbourne, but now you have this excuse up your sleeve. Victory where the minor premiers regardless of the ban and crushed their opponents in the finals with 2 3-0 victories. there was nothing stopping them, even a glory over the salary cap.
I love when people present their opinion as fact.
"I don't see you beating these teams therefore you wouldn't therefore you're lucky you have an excuse.
Yeah alright m8, tainted title for Victory.
Its not tainted you cheated and where caught. That's the fact. It's not like you were robbed.
Victory finished top and killed everyone in the finals. You can't do any more than that.
Quote from: Holz on May 21, 2015, 12:23:00 PM
Quote from: elephants on May 21, 2015, 11:48:21 AM
Quote from: Holz on May 21, 2015, 11:03:26 AM
Quote from: elephants on May 18, 2015, 01:39:54 PM
Quote from: Holz on May 17, 2015, 07:10:22 PM
The only annoying thing is Perth fans will say it was the ban.
What a ridiculous comment. The ban was the only reason we weren't in finals so we never had a chance to do anything...
see,
even in the finals I dont see you going past Sydney or Melbourne, but now you have this excuse up your sleeve. Victory where the minor premiers regardless of the ban and crushed their opponents in the finals with 2 3-0 victories. there was nothing stopping them, even a glory over the salary cap.
I love when people present their opinion as fact.
"I don't see you beating these teams therefore you wouldn't therefore you're lucky you have an excuse.
Yeah alright m8, tainted title for Victory.
Its not tainted you cheated and where caught. That's the fact. It's not like you were robbed.
Victory finished top and killed everyone in the finals. You can't do any more than that.
Its tainted. Not every side was given equal opportunity.
Of course, we paid some of our players more than we should have, but the punishment was ridiculous and eliminated us from the competition.
Tainted title.
Quote from: elephants on May 21, 2015, 12:25:02 PM
Quote from: Holz on May 21, 2015, 12:23:00 PM
Quote from: elephants on May 21, 2015, 11:48:21 AM
Quote from: Holz on May 21, 2015, 11:03:26 AM
Quote from: elephants on May 18, 2015, 01:39:54 PM
Quote from: Holz on May 17, 2015, 07:10:22 PM
The only annoying thing is Perth fans will say it was the ban.
What a ridiculous comment. The ban was the only reason we weren't in finals so we never had a chance to do anything...
see,
even in the finals I dont see you going past Sydney or Melbourne, but now you have this excuse up your sleeve. Victory where the minor premiers regardless of the ban and crushed their opponents in the finals with 2 3-0 victories. there was nothing stopping them, even a glory over the salary cap.
I love when people present their opinion as fact.
"I don't see you beating these teams therefore you wouldn't therefore you're lucky you have an excuse.
Yeah alright m8, tainted title for Victory.
Its not tainted you cheated and where caught. That's the fact. It's not like you were robbed.
Victory finished top and killed everyone in the finals. You can't do any more than that.
Its tainted. Not every side was given equal opportunity.
Of course, we paid some of our players more than we should have, but the punishment was ridiculous and eliminated us from the competition.
Tainted title.
yes they weren't I agree. All but one side played under a cap and had the same opportunity. One club played outside the rule and unfairly beat teams that played in the rules.
Glory's wins are tainted not Victory's championship.
Quote from: Holz on May 21, 2015, 02:54:50 PM
Quote from: elephants on May 21, 2015, 12:25:02 PM
Quote from: Holz on May 21, 2015, 12:23:00 PM
Quote from: elephants on May 21, 2015, 11:48:21 AM
Quote from: Holz on May 21, 2015, 11:03:26 AM
Quote from: elephants on May 18, 2015, 01:39:54 PM
Quote from: Holz on May 17, 2015, 07:10:22 PM
The only annoying thing is Perth fans will say it was the ban.
What a ridiculous comment. The ban was the only reason we weren't in finals so we never had a chance to do anything...
see,
even in the finals I dont see you going past Sydney or Melbourne, but now you have this excuse up your sleeve. Victory where the minor premiers regardless of the ban and crushed their opponents in the finals with 2 3-0 victories. there was nothing stopping them, even a glory over the salary cap.
I love when people present their opinion as fact.
"I don't see you beating these teams therefore you wouldn't therefore you're lucky you have an excuse.
Yeah alright m8, tainted title for Victory.
Its not tainted you cheated and where caught. That's the fact. It's not like you were robbed.
Victory finished top and killed everyone in the finals. You can't do any more than that.
Its tainted. Not every side was given equal opportunity.
Of course, we paid some of our players more than we should have, but the punishment was ridiculous and eliminated us from the competition.
Tainted title.
yes they weren't I agree. All but one side played under a cap and had the same opportunity. One club played outside the rule and unfairly beat teams that played in the rules.
Glory's wins are tainted not Victory's championship.
You're significantly over-estimating the impact of salary cap breaches on the rest of the competition haha. Yes its bad and needs to be stamped out, but players don't magically play better because they're being paid more than the FFA thinks they are.
I'm not trying to justify our breach of the salary cap. I'm just saying Victory didn't beat the best team in the league. Tainted trophy.
One fact is that Glory would not have had the same size and talent squad if they were under the normal salary cap rules.
Quote from: Luigi197 on May 21, 2015, 06:55:31 PM
One fact is that Glory would not have had the same size and talent squad if they were under the normal salary cap rules.
this exactly it, players dont play better with more money, but you can afford better players with more money.
P W L D + - = Points
MELBOURNE VICTORY 27 15 8 4 56 31 25 53
PERTH GLORY 27 14 8 5 45 35 10 50
cheating or no cheating Victory where better anyway. won more games conceded less goals and scored far far more goals. outscored the league by 25 points to only 10 by Glory.
so you broker the rules and still where inferior.
also Sydney FC where better too. Same amount of points but again a 17 point goal difference to 10.
SYDNEY FC 27 14 8 5 52 35 17 50
So in the end the best and second best team played off in the grandfinal and victory killed them 3-0.
You really think once Glory were banned from finals that they were going to be putting in 100%? The entire incentive is gone. Who cares how they ended up.
The fact you've gone into so much detail trying to justify how 'un-tainted' Melbourne's trophy was clearly highlights the fact you think it needs sufficient justification haha
Quote from: elephants on May 21, 2015, 11:45:19 PM
You really think once Glory were banned from finals that they were going to be putting in 100%? The entire incentive is gone. Who cares how they ended up.
The fact you've gone into so much detail trying to justify how 'un-tainted' Melbourne's trophy was clearly highlights the fact you think it needs sufficient justification haha
you said i presented opinion as fact. than I presented facts.
when glory finally win an A league ill say they are a good club. As Victory sit on 3/10 and 4/10 finals apperances, as the best A league team ever.
Haha oh well, good work. The title was tainted. Glory was easily the best team all season until they were found guilty of a salary cap breach.
Funny that when Sydney FC were found guilty they were only fined 44k and docked three points.
But when Glory were found guilty and were fined 269k and banned from finals.
Oh yeah, seems fair.
Quote from: elephants on May 22, 2015, 10:25:50 AM
Haha oh well, good work. The title was tainted. Glory was easily the best team all season until they were found guilty of a salary cap breach.
Funny that when Sydney FC were found guilty they were only fined 44k and docked three points.
But when Glory were found guilty and were fined 269k and banned from finals.
Oh yeah, seems fair.
keep your list together than you should romp it and win the title easy.
Quote from: Luigi197 on May 21, 2015, 06:55:31 PM
One fact is that Glory would not have had the same size and talent squad if they were under the normal salary cap rules.
It's one player.... No difference. Hershi was injured all year and Sidney is crap. Cut them 2 out and we are under.
Victory can celebrate knowing there the 2nd best side and won against the 3rd best. If they can celebrate that good on them.
Ahh bitter glory fans. I can understand never having won anything could make you that way, given how good westcoast has been.
pretty successful in early 2000s in Nsl.
West coast look pretty good to be right about now...
Definitely been a lot longer between drinks for The roos... what 99? 16 years, than us 8 years 06. The questions remains but how long will that keep ticking over until the fold/ bankrupt?
Quote from: Holz on May 22, 2015, 02:36:14 PM
Ahh bitter glory fans. I can understand never having won anything could make you that way, given how good westcoast has been.
Its tough when you've got 2-3 teams placed on a pedestal, if only we were based in the Eastern states dammit!
Dayum the bitterness is real.
But has someone done their research in when and how exactly Glory went over the cap?
I in fact believe that signing Keogh put them just over the salary cap already; but they still decided to buy Marinkovic next anyway. (or maybe it was switch those two names around, but the point remains).
Those two combined is somewhere around 75% of your goals scored, therefore likely around 60% of points on the ladder was due to them, and hence due to cheating.
PS: I do not support Victory in the A-league.
Why were our penalties immensely harsher than Sydney FCs payments to Dwight Yorke?
Other states are so threatened by WA's sporting dominance over their poverty-stricken states (Freo going to win the flag by a country mile, BBL champs, 50-over champs, best shield side, best a-league side, best Aussie NBL side, that f1 bloke...) that they have to go into damage control, lmao
Quote from: Luigi197 on May 25, 2015, 10:46:44 PM
Dayum the bitterness is real.
But has someone done their research in when and how exactly Glory went over the cap?
I in fact believe that signing Keogh put them just over the salary cap already; but they still decided to buy Marinkovic next anyway. (or maybe it was switch those two names around, but the point remains).
Those two combined is somewhere around 75% of your goals scored, therefore likely around 60% of points on the ladder was due to them, and hence due to cheating.
PS: I do not support Victory in the A-league.
From what i undertstand it was part of Keooghs contract that sent us over. Coupel of hundre thous. And then some extra payments that went to Mclaren.
Marinkovic is the markee player, from my understanding there salary isnt counted in cap. Every team allowed 1. So not sure where you spilling you BS from mate..
Quote from: The_Captain on May 26, 2015, 11:16:09 AM
Quote from: Luigi197 on May 25, 2015, 10:46:44 PM
Dayum the bitterness is real.
But has someone done their research in when and how exactly Glory went over the cap?
I in fact believe that signing Keogh put them just over the salary cap already; but they still decided to buy Marinkovic next anyway. (or maybe it was switch those two names around, but the point remains).
Those two combined is somewhere around 75% of your goals scored, therefore likely around 60% of points on the ladder was due to them, and hence due to cheating.
PS: I do not support Victory in the A-league.
From what i undertstand it was part of Keooghs contract that sent us over. Coupel of hundre thous. And then some extra payments that went to Mclaren.
Marinkovic is the markee player, from my understanding there salary isnt counted in cap. Every team allowed 1. So not sure where you spilling you BS from mate..
haha its all g mate chillax. regardless though, i still think that i not even you know fully the financial stats of who was being paid under and over the cap. but the fact that glory had players playing on the field, when according to the law they shouldn't have been there, hence renders their goals, assists, points, minutes; obsolete. therefore unworthy of appearing in finals over those who followed the laws.
Quote from: Luigi197 on May 26, 2015, 10:30:11 PM
Quote from: The_Captain on May 26, 2015, 11:16:09 AM
Quote from: Luigi197 on May 25, 2015, 10:46:44 PM
Dayum the bitterness is real.
But has someone done their research in when and how exactly Glory went over the cap?
I in fact believe that signing Keogh put them just over the salary cap already; but they still decided to buy Marinkovic next anyway. (or maybe it was switch those two names around, but the point remains).
Those two combined is somewhere around 75% of your goals scored, therefore likely around 60% of points on the ladder was due to them, and hence due to cheating.
PS: I do not support Victory in the A-league.
From what i undertstand it was part of Keooghs contract that sent us over. Coupel of hundre thous. And then some extra payments that went to Mclaren.
Marinkovic is the markee player, from my understanding there salary isnt counted in cap. Every team allowed 1. So not sure where you spilling you BS from mate..
haha its all g mate chillax. regardless though, i still think that i not even you know fully the financial stats of who was being paid under and over the cap. but the fact that glory had players playing on the field, when according to the law they shouldn't have been there, hence renders their goals, assists, points, minutes; obsolete. therefore unworthy of appearing in finals over those who followed the laws.
I think Keogh had about 250k deposited into his wife's account. On top of his salary which was around 250k as counted in salary cap. So we were 250 over there. And I think Mclaren had certain things paid for... Amounting to around 50k.
Some of those sides in the finals were a disgrace to watch..,, we could of had 6 out and still competed better than them!
Quote from: The_Captain on May 26, 2015, 11:20:49 PM
Quote from: Luigi197 on May 26, 2015, 10:30:11 PM
Quote from: The_Captain on May 26, 2015, 11:16:09 AM
Quote from: Luigi197 on May 25, 2015, 10:46:44 PM
Dayum the bitterness is real.
But has someone done their research in when and how exactly Glory went over the cap?
I in fact believe that signing Keogh put them just over the salary cap already; but they still decided to buy Marinkovic next anyway. (or maybe it was switch those two names around, but the point remains).
Those two combined is somewhere around 75% of your goals scored, therefore likely around 60% of points on the ladder was due to them, and hence due to cheating.
PS: I do not support Victory in the A-league.
From what i undertstand it was part of Keooghs contract that sent us over. Coupel of hundre thous. And then some extra payments that went to Mclaren.
Marinkovic is the markee player, from my understanding there salary isnt counted in cap. Every team allowed 1. So not sure where you spilling you BS from mate..
haha its all g mate chillax. regardless though, i still think that i not even you know fully the financial stats of who was being paid under and over the cap. but the fact that glory had players playing on the field, when according to the law they shouldn't have been there, hence renders their goals, assists, points, minutes; obsolete. therefore unworthy of appearing in finals over those who followed the laws.
I think Keogh had about 250k deposited into his wife's account. On top of his salary which was around 250k as counted in salary cap. So we were 250 over there. And I think Mclaren had certain things paid for... Amounting to around 50k.
Some of those sides in the finals were a disgrace to watch..,, we could of had 6 out and still competed better than them!
Victory just made everyone look ordinary.
might have needed 16 against them, not 6