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its round 2 and the champions league is start.
Stage 1 is a round robin group format to qualify for the top 8. the top 8 will than play each other once and there will be a finals series after that.
to make it through the group stage you need to finsih in the top 2 in your group.
Group 1:
Sao Paulo Pumas W W W
Greek Titans W L W
Spansih Stallions L W L
Wellington Warriors L L L
Group 2:
Macedonian Wolves W W W
Buenos Aires Armadillos W L W
Toronto Wolves L W L
Iceland Polar Bears L L L
Group 3:
Russian Roulette's W D W
Mexico City Suns W D W
Belgian Bashers L W L
Beijing Bears L L L
Group 4:
Cape Town Cobras W L W
Sweddish Metal W W L
Moscow Spetsnaz L W L
Belarus Bisons L L W
Ladder:
Buenos Aires Armadillos 5W 2L 101.69%
Mexico City Suns 5W 2L 107.17%
Sweddish Metal 5W 2L 105.88%
Sao Paulo Pumas 4W 3L 105.38%
Russian Roulette's 4W 3L 102.19%
Cape Town Cobras 2W 5L 95.52%
Greek Titans 2W 5L 90.24%
Macedonian Wolves 1W 6L 92.03%
Points Scored
Mexico City Suns 1076
Sao Paulo Pumas 1058
Sweddish Metal 1063
Buenos Aires Armadillos 1021
Russian Roulette's 1026
Cape Town Cobras 959
Macedonian Wolves 924
Greek Titans 906
Round 1 group stage
Sao Paulo Pumas 21.16 142 defeated Spanish Stallions 19.15 129
Greek Titans 16.14 110 defeated Wellington Warriors 15.14 103
Macedonian Wolves 20.14 129 drew Toronto Wolves 19.15 129
Buenos Aires Armadillos 21.16 142 defeated Iceland Polar Bears 17.15 117
Mexico City Suns 25.16 166 defeated Belgian Bashers 18.15 123
Russian Roulette's 20.18 138 defeated Beijing Bears14.13 97
Sweddish Metal 23.13 151 defeated Moscow Spetsnaz 18.14 122
Cape Town Cobras 20.20 140 defeated Belarus Bisons 16.13 109
Round 2 group stage
Sao Paulo Pumas (Crows Fan) 160 defeated Greek Titans (Spinking) 85
Wellington Warriors 109 lost to Spansih Stallions (Torp) 126
Macedonian Wolves (Scrads) 138 defeated Buenos Aires Armadillos (Nails) 131
Tortonto Wolves (RB) 151 defeated Iceland Polar Bears (HP) 143
Mexico City Suns 148 drew with Russian Roulette's (Nostra) 148
Beijing Bears 101 lost to Belgian Bashers (Ele) 143
Sweddish Metal (Nails) 137 defeated Cape Town Cobras 134
Belarus Bisons (Lahug) 136 lost to Moscow Spetsnaz 139
Round 3 group stage
Sao Paulo Pumas 157 defeated Wellington Warriors 113
Greek Titans 124 defeated Spansih Stallions 114
Macedonian Wolves 141 defeated Iceland Polar Bears 125
Buenos Aires Armadillos 181 defeated Tortonto Wolves 136
Mexico City Suns 156 defeated Beijing Bears 111
Russian Roulette's 146 defeated Belgian Bashers 141
Sweddish Metal 140 lost Belarus Bisons 141
Cape Town Cobras 140 defeated Moscow Spetsnaz 131
Round 1
Russian Roulettes 136 lost to Cape Town Cobras 140
Greek Titans 136 lost to Sao Paulo Pumas 164
Sweddish Metal 152 lost Buenos Aires Armadillos 155
Macedonian Wolves 133 lost to Mexico City Suns 157
Round 2
Sao Paulo Pumas 147 defeated Russian Roulettes 130
Buenos Aires Armadillos 156 defeated Cape Town Cobras 136
Mexico City Suns 167 defeated Greek Titans 112
Macedonian Wolves 124 lost to Sweddish Metal 150
Round 3
Russian Roulettes 159 defeated Buenos Aires Armadillos 157
Sao Paulo Pumas 140 lost to Mexico City Suns 168
Cape Town Cobras 144 defeated Macedonian Wolves 141
Greek Titans 127 lost Sweddish Metal 146
Round 4
Mexico City Suns 147 lost to Russian Roulettes 150
Macedonian Wolves 124 lost to Buenos Aires Armadillos 138
Sweddish Metal 157 lost to Sao Paulo Pumas 162
Greek Titans 149 defeated Cape Town Cobras 141
Round 5
Russian Roulettes 158 defeated Macedonian Wolves 140
Mexico City Suns 151 lost to Sweddish Metal 159
Buenos Aires Armadillos 144 defeated Greek Titans 117
Sao Paulo Pumas 147 defeated Cape Town Cobras 134
Round 6
Sweddish Metal 156 defeated Russian Roulettes 146
Greek Titans 141 defeated Macedonian Wolves 129
Cape Town Cobras 130 lost to Mexico City Suns 151
Sao Paulo Pumas 157 lost to Buenos Aires Armadillos 160
Round 7
Russian Roulettes 147 defeated Greek Titans 124
Sweddish Metal 143 defeated Cape Town Cobras 134
Macedonian Wolves 133 defeated Sao Paulo Pumas 131
Mexico City Suns 135 defeated Buenos Aires Armadillos 111
Prelimary Finals
Mexico City Suns 133 lost to Sao Paulo Pumas 143
Sweddish Metal 128 lost to Buenos Aires Armadillos 134
Grand Final
Sao Paulo Pumas defeated Buenos Aires Armadillos
So this is starting this round? Do we post our teams in here or in our own leagues thread and you find them?
Quote from: CrowsFan on April 03, 2013, 01:28:41 PM
So this is starting this round? Do we post our teams in here or in our own leagues thread and you find them?
yes it is starting this round. you dont have to post your teams here. I will find them in the world/euro threads. Will post the score matchups here.
the euro doesnt start till round 3, so they can post here if they want.
Russian Roulettes
B: Beau Waters 73, Shannon Hurn 36, Shaun Burgoyne 75, Harry O'Brien 80
M: Gary Ablett (c) 168, Dane Swan (vc) 117, Ryan Griffin 76, Ryan O'Keefe 92
R: Matthew Kruezer 91
F: Paul Chapman 90, Jack Riewoldt 103, Tory Dickson 42, Steven Motlop 79
U: Brent Moloney 101, Ben Howlett 117
Emerg:
Chris Yarran 78, Toby Greene 72, Lachlan Hansen 34
Final score .......1340
*with the equalisation factor (1.03) l think it becomes .......1380
Mexico City who? Never heard of 'em.
Quote from: elephants on April 03, 2013, 03:49:51 PM
Mexico City who? Never heard of 'em.
your in a hard group ele. Mexico City 2012 World Premiers. Russian Roullettes 2012 Euro Premiers.
Backs: B.Goddard, S.Hurn, C.Enright, J.Adcock.
Mids: S.Thompson, S.Sidebottom, B.Ebert, B.Moloney
Ruckman: I.Maric
Forwards: N.Riewoldt, J.Bartel, J.Lewis, A.Goodes.
good luck is all i can say.
Mexico 8)
Pffft, I'm far from concerned Holz. No need to worry about me.
Quote from: Holzman on April 03, 2013, 04:15:36 PM
Quote from: elephants on April 03, 2013, 03:49:51 PM
Mexico City who? Never heard of 'em.
your in a hard group ele. Mexico City 2012 World Premiers. Russian Roullettes 2012 Euro Premiers.
Backs: B.Goddard, S.Hurn, C.Enright, J.Adcock.
Mids: S.Thompson, S.Sidebottom, B.Ebert, B.Moloney
Ruckman: I.Maric
Forwards: N.Riewoldt, J.Bartel, J.Lewis, A.Goodes.
good luck is all i can say.
l dont really care who l play, but it seems a bit wierd to have the only 2 reigning premiers in the same group
Quote from: nostradamus on April 03, 2013, 04:52:00 PM
Quote from: Holzman on April 03, 2013, 04:15:36 PM
Quote from: elephants on April 03, 2013, 03:49:51 PM
Mexico City who? Never heard of 'em.
your in a hard group ele. Mexico City 2012 World Premiers. Russian Roullettes 2012 Euro Premiers.
Backs: B.Goddard, S.Hurn, C.Enright, J.Adcock.
Mids: S.Thompson, S.Sidebottom, B.Ebert, B.Moloney
Ruckman: I.Maric
Forwards: N.Riewoldt, J.Bartel, J.Lewis, A.Goodes.
good luck is all i can say.
l dont really care who l play, but it seems a bit wierd to have the only 2 reigning premiers in the same group
This. Why do I cop the hardest group stage!? Not that its a problem but how were group worked out?
Quote from: nostradamus on April 03, 2013, 04:52:00 PM
Quote from: Holzman on April 03, 2013, 04:15:36 PM
Quote from: elephants on April 03, 2013, 03:49:51 PM
Mexico City who? Never heard of 'em.
your in a hard group ele. Mexico City 2012 World Premiers. Russian Roullettes 2012 Euro Premiers.
Backs: B.Goddard, S.Hurn, C.Enright, J.Adcock.
Mids: S.Thompson, S.Sidebottom, B.Ebert, B.Moloney
Ruckman: I.Maric
Forwards: N.Riewoldt, J.Bartel, J.Lewis, A.Goodes.
good luck is all i can say.
l dont really care who l play, but it seems a bit wierd to have the only 2 reigning premiers in the same group
it goes by how you finsihed on the ladder.
So Suns finsihed 2nd and Roulettes finisehd 3rd. So coming up agasint the Suns is not really an issue as 2 teams go through. The issue for you is you get one of this seasons bolters in the Bashers who finished 7th instead of a team like the Titans who have gone young and are seeded 4th.
Look at group 1, thats an easy group for Sao Paulo, but than again they were the minor premiers.
Ah ok, cheers mate. Guess we will have to surprise a few to get outta this group!
Quote from: Holzman on April 03, 2013, 04:15:36 PM
Quote from: elephants on April 03, 2013, 03:49:51 PM
Mexico City who? Never heard of 'em.
your in a hard group ele. Mexico City 2012 World Premiers. Russian Roullettes 2012 Euro Premiers.
Backs: B.Goddard, S.Hurn, C.Enright, J.Adcock.
Mids: S.Thompson, S.Sidebottom, B.Ebert, B.Moloney
Ruckman: I.Maric
Forwards: N.Riewoldt, J.Bartel, J.Lewis, A.Goodes.
good luck is all i can say.
just out of curiosity Holz.....what team is it that you posted :P
I think its Maca's worlds team mate. Not 100% though :P
Quote from: nostradamus on April 03, 2013, 05:46:54 PM
Quote from: Holzman on April 03, 2013, 04:15:36 PM
Quote from: elephants on April 03, 2013, 03:49:51 PM
Mexico City who? Never heard of 'em.
your in a hard group ele. Mexico City 2012 World Premiers. Russian Roullettes 2012 Euro Premiers.
Backs: B.Goddard, S.Hurn, C.Enright, J.Adcock.
Mids: S.Thompson, S.Sidebottom, B.Ebert, B.Moloney
Ruckman: I.Maric
Forwards: N.Riewoldt, J.Bartel, J.Lewis, A.Goodes.
good luck is all i can say.
just out of curiosity Holz.....what team is it that you posted :P
yeah its the Mexico City Suns (Macca). your main competition.
Yeah thats it nostra. You and Maca will compete for 2nd spot.
Quote from: Holzman on April 03, 2013, 06:12:35 PM
Quote from: nostradamus on April 03, 2013, 05:46:54 PM
Quote from: Holzman on April 03, 2013, 04:15:36 PM
Quote from: elephants on April 03, 2013, 03:49:51 PM
Mexico City who? Never heard of 'em.
your in a hard group ele. Mexico City 2012 World Premiers. Russian Roullettes 2012 Euro Premiers.
Backs: B.Goddard, S.Hurn, C.Enright, J.Adcock.
Mids: S.Thompson, S.Sidebottom, B.Ebert, B.Moloney
Ruckman: I.Maric
Forwards: N.Riewoldt, J.Bartel, J.Lewis, A.Goodes.
good luck is all i can say.
just out of curiosity Holz.....what team is it that you posted :P
yeah its the Mexico City Suns (Macca). your main competition.
not if he doesnt have any utilities :P
Beijing are clearly going to win the spoon!
Why are we even bothering?
Why not just start off with the obvious Metal vs. Armadillos grand final? ;)
Quote from: Nails on April 04, 2013, 11:52:42 AM
Why are we even bothering?
Why not just start off with the obvious Metal vs. Armadillos grand final? ;)
l feel pretty safe in assuming they're both your teams then Nails ::)
Going to be very tough for the Bashers with Stanley, Daisy, Hmac and possibly Robinson out :(
Quote from: Ricochet on April 04, 2013, 05:09:44 PM
Going to be very tough for the Bashers with Stanley, Daisy, Hmac and possibly Robinson out :(
l think Robbo will be right, but yeah l doubt the others will get up
Still don't get how exactly the scaling will work. Has the ratio already been decided or does it change week to week? If changing each week does it only take in to account the teams in the champions league or in the entire league?
Quote from: CrowsFan on April 04, 2013, 05:53:18 PM
Still don't get how exactly the scaling will work. Has the ratio already been decided or does it change week to week? If changing each week does it only take in to account the teams in the champions league or in the entire league?
it will take into account the whole league. Im just running the numbers now to see if there is a big difference between last years figures and what happend in round 1 this year. I was just going to leave it as the ratio i calculated last year, to solve week to week outliers.
Ok cool. Was just wondering since some of the euro teams aren't playing this week so was wondering how you would work out the ratio. Nice to see its all sorted :)
Quote from: CrowsFan on April 04, 2013, 06:13:09 PM
Ok cool. Was just wondering since some of the euro teams aren't playing this week so was wondering how you would work out the ratio. Nice to see its all sorted :)
yeah all sorted, Euro teams get just under 3% added to their score because world teams on average last year scored 3% more than euro teams.
thats pretty close, SC scores are quite alot bigger but as its 14 euro teams to 18 it balances it out quite abit.
Macedonian Wolves Team:
B: Hamish Hartlett, Brent Guerra, Lewis Stevenson, Josh Gibson
M: Brent Stanton(C), Brad Ebert, Liam Shiels, Chris Masten
R: Matthew Leuenberger
F: Patty Ryder, Dustin Martin, Luke Breust, Josh J. Kennedy
U: David Mackay, Jay Schulz
E: Ryan Schoenmakers(B), Nathan Van Berlo(M), Michael Walters(F)
Backline weakened by Broughton, Howard and Pederson being injured/shower. Chose to go Jay Schulz as utility over NVB due to playing GWS. Tempted to go Brad Ebert captain but will stick with Stants. Worried about Liam Shiels.
Good luck to the Wolves side in 2013.
Spanish Stallions:
Defenders: Dyson Heppell, Nick Duigan, Marty Clarke, Nick Smith
Midfielders: Josh Kennedy (C), Patrick Dangerfield (VC), Daniel Rich, Jaeger O'Meara
Ruck: David Hale
Forwards: Lance Franklin, Jack Darling, Ben McGlynn, Stewart Crameri
Interchange: Patrick Karnezis, Jack Newnes
Emergencies: Tyrone Vickery, Nick Kommer, Mark Baguley
:)
Belgian Bashers
Grant Birchall, Bachar Houli, Brent Reilly, Dan Nicholson
Marc Murphy (C), Andrew Swallow (VC), Nathan Fyfe, Joel Selwood
Andrew Carrazzo, Matt Priddis
Matthew Lobbe
Mitch Robinson, Matthew Pavlich, Cyril Rioli, Craig Bird
EMG: Terlich, Gibson, J-Pod
Daisy, Hmac and Stanley out is painful :-\
as Holz knows but so everyone else does while HP is away i will be taking on the duties for Iceland here is the team for the champions league ;)
Iceland Polar Bears
Def: A.Rance, A.Mackie, J.Harbrow, C.Dempsey(VC)
Mids: S.Selwood, J.McVeigh(C), D.Wells, C.Judd
Ruck: Mumford
Fwds: J.Lewis, C.Mayne, J.Watts, L.Adams
Int: J.Griffin, H.Bennell
Emg: H.Grundy, M.Duncan, R.Stanley
Belarus Bison
Def: P. Duffield, H. Taylor, T. Chaplin, J. Russell
Mid: S. Mitchell (C), J. Kelly, D. Armitage, D. Mundy (VC)
Ruc: S. Jacobs
Fwd: D. Zorko, T. Rockliff, J. Roughead, C. Sylvia
Util: D. Jackson, J. Bolton
Emg: C. Jones, A. Monfries, L. Brown
Best two defenders still out :(
Mexico City Suns
Backs: B.Goddard (vc), S.Hurn, C.Enright, J.Adcock.
Mids: S.Sidebottom, B.Ebert, S.Thompson, B.Moloney.
Frwds: N.Riewoldt, J.Bartel, J.Lewis, A.Goodes.
Ruck: I.Maric (C).
Bench: L.Hodge, S.Crameri.
Emerg: B.Vince, D.Merrett, M.Blicavs.
Looking strong, only missing Sandilands and Lecras from the best 15.
Buenos Aires Armadillos
D - S D. Thompson, Burgoyne, Brennan, Gilbert
M - Swan, Carrazzo, Cross, Barlow
R - Cox
F - Chapman, Petrie, Schulz, P. Stewart
UTI - Kornes, J. McKenzie
Emg - Bradley, Dalziell!!!!, Jarrad Redden
Missing a few key players: Scotland, Chadley, Stevie J and Boomer Harvey to name a few.
Swedish Metal
EXV
D - Enright, Newman, Dempster, Bob Murphy
M - Jobe Watson (C), Scott Thompson (ade), Tuck, Montagna (VC)
R - Minson
F - NickRoo, Bartel, Cox, J. Brown
UTI - Hayes, D. Cross
Emg - D. Grimes, S. Martin, McLean
Erggg, shocking game from Houli really hurts my chances early :(
I'm off to a good start thanks to the ever reliable *cough cough* Jack Riewoldt 8)
so after reading it all im still a little confused on how it scres i know you have a system holz but just a quick question
for those from the worlds they still look at there team's score in terms of SC scoring
and in euro's teams still look in terms of DT?
and then it gets worked out from there?
sorry just wondering so i can sort of understand how the polar bears are doing during the weekend
basically each individual comps average score per team is taken, to create a weighting system
(for instance if worlds averaged 1600ppg and euros average 1100 ppg, the weighting would be 1600/1100= 1.4545, which means for the champions league the euros scores would be multiplied by 1.4545 to even them with the worlds scores)
I'm pretty sure that's how it works anyway.
the only massive weakness in this is if one competition has one, or a couple of very bad teams (i.e a massive standard deviation between the teams in the comps), which means that even though lets say euros have a lower average, that could be because our two last placed teams only average like 500 ppg.
CHAPLIN!!! ;)
But Jackson over C. Jones hurts. Was a coinflip and I flipped wrong.
Quote from: DazBurg on April 06, 2013, 12:40:50 AM
so after reading it all im still a little confused on how it scres i know you have a system holz but just a quick question
for those from the worlds they still look at there team's score in terms of SC scoring
and in euro's teams still look in terms of DT?
and then it gets worked out from there?
sorry just wondering so i can sort of understand how the polar bears are doing during the weekend
the Euros scores are multiplied by 1.03
ahhh ok now i get it
thanks zippy and nostra ;)
Clint Jones get the Wolves (the PROPER Wolves, none of this Macedonian crap :P) off to a good start.
Quote from: Torpedo10 on April 04, 2013, 09:32:47 PM
Spanish Stallions:
Defenders: Dyson Heppell 147, Nick Duigan Mark Baguley 85, Marty Clarke 81, Nick Smith 48
Midfielders: Josh Kennedy (C) 182, Patrick Dangerfield (VC) 95, Daniel Rich 47, Jaeger O'Meara 104
Ruck: David Hale 79
Forwards: Lance Franklin 90, Jack Darling 54, Ben McGlynn 68, Stewart Crameri 108
Interchange: Patrick Karnezis 9, Jack Newnes 52
1249
Emergencies: Tyrone Vickery, Nick Kommer, Mark Baguley
:)
Decent score but overall not a very good week. Will do CF's score now.
From Nostra's addition I lose against CF.
Spanish Stallions (19.14 128) lost to Sao Paulo Pumas (21.16.142)
Quote from: Torpedo10 on April 07, 2013, 10:08:07 PM
From Nostra's addition I lose against CF.
Spanish Stallions (19.14 128) lost to Sao Paulo Pumas (21.16.142)
Just be glad you only have to play me once :P
having a look at the scores it appears that the world teams are going to kill all the euro teams. Im not sure how people feel about this but im thinking about changing the calculation of the averages. for this reason. Will have to see if there is a fair way of doing this.
Mexico City Suns 171
New Dehli Tigers 97
thats a huge range.
It's because the season has started in general with significantly lower DT scores than you'd expect but the SC scores are quite high...
Belarus Bison
Def: P. Duffield 75, H. Taylor 31, T. Chaplin 93, J. Russell 71
Mid: S. Mitchell (C) 218, J. Kelly 85, D. Armitage 75, D. Mundy (VC) 70
Ruc: S. Jacobs 82
Fwd: D. Zorko 75, T. Rockliff 77, J. Roughead 72, C. Sylvia 33
Util: D. Jackson 67, J. Bolton 72
Score: 1057
Quote from: LaHug on April 08, 2013, 01:08:16 PM
It's because the season has started in general with significantly lower DT scores than you'd expect but the SC scores are quite high...
DT scores maybe low, but SC scores are constant - only 3300 available for each match.
As Worlds Admin, I'll protest changing the rules to back my boys up! Surely the huge differentials show they are more dominant?
Quote from: ossie85 on April 08, 2013, 01:54:15 PM
Quote from: LaHug on April 08, 2013, 01:08:16 PM
It's because the season has started in general with significantly lower DT scores than you'd expect but the SC scores are quite high...
DT scores maybe low, but SC scores are constant - only 3300 available for each match.
As Worlds Admin, I'll protest changing the rules to back my boys up! Surely the huge differentials show they are more dominant?
I will look into it, i was thinking just dropping the 2 lowest averages and the 2 best. Will probably keep it the same though. Will do the numbers in the afternoon and get the results up shoortly.
the hugr SD in the worlds is a worry though the difference between the best and worst team is crazy.
Quote from: ossie85 on April 08, 2013, 01:54:15 PM
Quote from: LaHug on April 08, 2013, 01:08:16 PM
It's because the season has started in general with significantly lower DT scores than you'd expect but the SC scores are quite high...
DT scores maybe low, but SC scores are constant - only 3300 available for each match.
As Worlds Admin, I'll protest changing the rules to back my boys up! Surely the huge differentials show they are more dominant?
I more meant that the good players seem to be scoring particularly highly. If there are 3300 points available and the bottom 22 in a game all score 50 points, that leaves 2200 points for the top 22. Not sure how well I'm explaining what I'm trying to say but I'm sure you get the gist...
Fair point LaHug, the superstars are especially super at the moment
Just out of curiosity, what are the actual results guys?
Quote from: Holzman on April 08, 2013, 01:56:50 PM
Quote from: ossie85 on April 08, 2013, 01:54:15 PM
Quote from: LaHug on April 08, 2013, 01:08:16 PM
It's because the season has started in general with significantly lower DT scores than you'd expect but the SC scores are quite high...
DT scores maybe low, but SC scores are constant - only 3300 available for each match.
As Worlds Admin, I'll protest changing the rules to back my boys up! Surely the huge differentials show they are more dominant?
I will look into it, i was thinking just dropping the 2 lowest averages and the 2 best. Will probably keep it the same though. Will do the numbers in the afternoon and get the results up shoortly.
the hugr SD in the worlds is a worry though the difference between the best and worst team is crazy.
l think the best way to achieve parity would be to look at the averages from last year of only the teams that are involved in this championship. That way it avoids the distortion of the very weak teams in any particular league
Quote from: nostradamus on April 08, 2013, 03:17:11 PM
Quote from: Holzman on April 08, 2013, 01:56:50 PM
Quote from: ossie85 on April 08, 2013, 01:54:15 PM
Quote from: LaHug on April 08, 2013, 01:08:16 PM
It's because the season has started in general with significantly lower DT scores than you'd expect but the SC scores are quite high...
DT scores maybe low, but SC scores are constant - only 3300 available for each match.
As Worlds Admin, I'll protest changing the rules to back my boys up! Surely the huge differentials show they are more dominant?
I will look into it, i was thinking just dropping the 2 lowest averages and the 2 best. Will probably keep it the same though. Will do the numbers in the afternoon and get the results up shoortly.
the hugr SD in the worlds is a worry though the difference between the best and worst team is crazy.
l think the best way to achieve parity would be to look at the averages from last year of only the teams that are involved in this championship. That way it avoids the distortion of the very weak teams in any particular league
aahh very clever nost.
Quote from: Holzman on April 08, 2013, 03:20:28 PM
Quote from: nostradamus on April 08, 2013, 03:17:11 PM
Quote from: Holzman on April 08, 2013, 01:56:50 PM
Quote from: ossie85 on April 08, 2013, 01:54:15 PM
Quote from: LaHug on April 08, 2013, 01:08:16 PM
It's because the season has started in general with significantly lower DT scores than you'd expect but the SC scores are quite high...
DT scores maybe low, but SC scores are constant - only 3300 available for each match.
As Worlds Admin, I'll protest changing the rules to back my boys up! Surely the huge differentials show they are more dominant?
I will look into it, i was thinking just dropping the 2 lowest averages and the 2 best. Will probably keep it the same though. Will do the numbers in the afternoon and get the results up shoortly.
the hugr SD in the worlds is a worry though the difference between the best and worst team is crazy.
l think the best way to achieve parity would be to look at the averages from last year of only the teams that are involved in this championship. That way it avoids the distortion of the very weak teams in any particular league
aahh very clever nost.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TkBQ4xUHAUA
^ That is a video about nost.
Well mostly the first 15 seconds really.
Quote from: Nails on April 08, 2013, 03:23:57 PM
Quote from: Holzman on April 08, 2013, 03:20:28 PM
Quote from: nostradamus on April 08, 2013, 03:17:11 PM
Quote from: Holzman on April 08, 2013, 01:56:50 PM
Quote from: ossie85 on April 08, 2013, 01:54:15 PM
Quote from: LaHug on April 08, 2013, 01:08:16 PM
It's because the season has started in general with significantly lower DT scores than you'd expect but the SC scores are quite high...
DT scores maybe low, but SC scores are constant - only 3300 available for each match.
As Worlds Admin, I'll protest changing the rules to back my boys up! Surely the huge differentials show they are more dominant?
I will look into it, i was thinking just dropping the 2 lowest averages and the 2 best. Will probably keep it the same though. Will do the numbers in the afternoon and get the results up shoortly.
the hugr SD in the worlds is a worry though the difference between the best and worst team is crazy.
l think the best way to achieve parity would be to look at the averages from last year of only the teams that are involved in this championship. That way it avoids the distortion of the very weak teams in any particular league
aahh very clever nost.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TkBQ4xUHAUA
^ That is a video about nost.
Well mostly the first 15 seconds really.
that cracked me up Nails .........very funny mate ;D
Quote from: Nails on April 08, 2013, 03:23:57 PM
Quote from: Holzman on April 08, 2013, 03:20:28 PM
Quote from: nostradamus on April 08, 2013, 03:17:11 PM
Quote from: Holzman on April 08, 2013, 01:56:50 PM
Quote from: ossie85 on April 08, 2013, 01:54:15 PM
Quote from: LaHug on April 08, 2013, 01:08:16 PM
It's because the season has started in general with significantly lower DT scores than you'd expect but the SC scores are quite high...
DT scores maybe low, but SC scores are constant - only 3300 available for each match.
As Worlds Admin, I'll protest changing the rules to back my boys up! Surely the huge differentials show they are more dominant?
I will look into it, i was thinking just dropping the 2 lowest averages and the 2 best. Will probably keep it the same though. Will do the numbers in the afternoon and get the results up shoortly.
the hugr SD in the worlds is a worry though the difference between the best and worst team is crazy.
l think the best way to achieve parity would be to look at the averages from last year of only the teams that are involved in this championship. That way it avoids the distortion of the very weak teams in any particular league
aahh very clever nost.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TkBQ4xUHAUA
^ That is a video about nost.
Well mostly the first 15 seconds really.
LOL Gold Nails
love it great call
love the movie too ;D
Sao Paulo Pumas 21.16 142 defeated Spanish Stallions 19.15 129
Greek Titans 16.14 110 defeated Wellington Warriors 15.14 104
Macedonian Wolves 20.14 134 defeated Toronto Wolves 19.15 129
Buenos Aires Armadillos 21.17 143 defeated Iceland Polar Bears 17.15 117
Mexico City Suns 26.15 171 defeated Belgian Bashers 18.15 123
Russian Roulette's 20.18 138 defeated Beijing Bears14.13 97
Sweddish Metal 23.13 151 defeated Moscow Spetsnaz 18.16 124
Cape Town Cobras 20.21 141 defeated Belarus Bisons 16.13 109
thats 4 wins to the euro and 4 wins the worlds. Amazingly all the higher ranking teams won.
Wow!! Mexico's score is very impressive, it's hard to see anyone competing with them if they keep that standard up
......but watch out guys, l cant see Ablett & Swan both having ordinary games at the same time again
Haha damn, we need Daisy/Hmac/Stanley back!!
Quote from: elephants on April 08, 2013, 10:04:20 PM
Haha damn, we need Daisy/Hmac/Stanley back!!
l watched Collingwood's VFL match on the weekend and Daisy played well, but he's not match fit. He could play this week, but l reckon he'll be the sub if he does though
Yeah he's looking slowish hey but the class is still all there!
l'm hoping they do what Essendon did with Zaka and give him 2 weeks of the vest. l'd love to get him nice n cheap for DT & SC
Okay sure but only if Bucks let's me know first so I know not to play him in euros :P
Provided the Armadillos can make it through round 1 unscathed they will look forward to the return of: Boyd, Stevie J, Scotland, Chad Cornes (if lucky) and Boomer Harvey.
Armadillos are glad to have got across the line in week 1 but are concerned that they're not playing the best team possible and your best is what is required to win in this league we feel.
Quote from: elephants on April 08, 2013, 11:12:53 PM
Okay sure but only if Bucks let's me know first so I know not to play him in euros :P
I'm sure he will Ele ::)
Brilliant stuff! 4 and 4, just how I like it
Good first win for the Cobras! :D
So who's losing to the Pumas next? The Titans or Warriors? :P
Quote from: CrowsFan on April 09, 2013, 03:34:17 PM
So who's losing to the Pumas next? The Titans or Warriors? :P
the titans. soft draw for you CF if i was in i could give you a run for your money.
Ahhh Holz and his humour ^ :P
Quote from: elephants on April 09, 2013, 05:24:07 PM
Ahhh Holz and his humour ^ :P
I know one team i coudl have beat this week. we might need to see if the bashers are deserving of a champions league spot with last years Euro wooden spoon winners accounting for them comfortably.
would have gone down to the pumas by 4 with a solid 138
With hindsight we would have been signfifcantly better loool
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So who's losing to the Pumas next? The Titans or Warriors? :P
the titans. soft draw for you CF if i was in i could give you a run for your money.
is the draw posted anywhere yet?
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So who's losing to the Pumas next? The Titans or Warriors? :P
the titans. soft draw for you CF if i was in i could give you a run for your money.
is the draw posted anywhere yet?
The groups are on page 1. You play each team once than the top 2 from each group makes the final 8. You play each team once to make the top 4 which is the final series.
Round 2 has not been posted yet. It's 1v2 and 3v4 in your groups this week
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So who's losing to the Pumas next? The Titans or Warriors? :P
the titans. soft draw for you CF if i was in i could give you a run for your money.
is the draw posted anywhere yet?
The groups are on page 1. You play each team once than the top 2 from each group makes the final 8. You play each team once to make the top 4 which is the final series.
Round 2 has not been posted yet. It's 1v2 and 3v4 in your groups this week
Tough week for the Roulettes then, playing the team l see as favourites for the title......Mexico.
But dont count us out completely, both Swan and Ablett were quiet last week and they usually come back with a vengeance when they do that ........hmmm which one to make captain ;)
*it could even be the pseudo world club championship match........
WXV Reigning Premiers, Mexico City Suns vs EXV Reigning Premiers, Russian Roulettes
it's just unfortunate that it's at this end of the competition
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So who's losing to the Pumas next? The Titans or Warriors? :P
the titans. soft draw for you CF if i was in i could give you a run for your money.
is the draw posted anywhere yet?
The groups are on page 1. You play each team once than the top 2 from each group makes the final 8. You play each team once to make the top 4 which is the final series.
Round 2 has not been posted yet. It's 1v2 and 3v4 in your groups this week
Tough week for the Roulettes then, playing the team l see as favourites for the title......Mexico.
But dont count us out completely, both Swan and Ablett were quiet last week and they usually come back with a vengeance when they do that ........hmmm which one to make captain ;)
*it could even be the pseudo world club championship match........
WXV Reigning Premiers, Mexico City Suns vs EXV Reigning Premiers, Russian Roulettes
it's just unfortunate that it's at this end of the competition
you can still both make it through the group, that is if the roulllettes are good enough :)
are we going to do that knockout comp? or not?
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So who's losing to the Pumas next? The Titans or Warriors? :P
the titans. soft draw for you CF if i was in i could give you a run for your money.
is the draw posted anywhere yet?
The groups are on page 1. You play each team once than the top 2 from each group makes the final 8. You play each team once to make the top 4 which is the final series.
Round 2 has not been posted yet. It's 1v2 and 3v4 in your groups this week
Tough week for the Roulettes then, playing the team l see as favourites for the title......Mexico.
But dont count us out completely, both Swan and Ablett were quiet last week and they usually come back with a vengeance when they do that ........hmmm which one to make captain ;)
*it could even be the pseudo world club championship match........
WXV Reigning Premiers, Mexico City Suns vs EXV Reigning Premiers, Russian Roulettes
it's just unfortunate that it's at this end of the competition
you can still both make it through the group, that is if the roulllettes are good enough :)
Gauntlet picked-up and accepted ;)
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So who's losing to the Pumas next? The Titans or Warriors? :P
the titans. soft draw for you CF if i was in i could give you a run for your money.
is the draw posted anywhere yet?
The groups are on page 1. You play each team once than the top 2 from each group makes the final 8. You play each team once to make the top 4 which is the final series.
Round 2 has not been posted yet. It's 1v2 and 3v4 in your groups this week
Tough week for the Roulettes then, playing the team l see as favourites for the title......Mexico.
But dont count us out completely, both Swan and Ablett were quiet last week and they usually come back with a vengeance when they do that ........hmmm which one to make captain ;)
*it could even be the pseudo world club championship match........
WXV Reigning Premiers, Mexico City Suns vs EXV Reigning Premiers, Russian Roulettes
it's just unfortunate that it's at this end of the competition
you can still both make it through the group, that is if the roulllettes are good enough :)
Gauntlet picked-up and accepted ;)
Bears wont make it through so really it will all come down to Russia v Belgium next week, winner goes through.
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So who's losing to the Pumas next? The Titans or Warriors? :P
the titans. soft draw for you CF if i was in i could give you a run for your money.
is the draw posted anywhere yet?
The groups are on page 1. You play each team once than the top 2 from each group makes the final 8. You play each team once to make the top 4 which is the final series.
Round 2 has not been posted yet. It's 1v2 and 3v4 in your groups this week
Tough week for the Roulettes then, playing the team l see as favourites for the title......Mexico.
But dont count us out completely, both Swan and Ablett were quiet last week and they usually come back with a vengeance when they do that ........hmmm which one to make captain ;)
*it could even be the pseudo world club championship match........
WXV Reigning Premiers, Mexico City Suns vs EXV Reigning Premiers, Russian Roulettes
it's just unfortunate that it's at this end of the competition
you can still both make it through the group, that is if the roulllettes are good enough :)
Gauntlet picked-up and accepted ;)
Bears wont make it through so really it will all come down to Russia v Belgium next week, winner goes through.
Unless of course we can actually beat Mexico ;)
Up against the Sweedish Metal.
They any good? :P
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So who's losing to the Pumas next? The Titans or Warriors? :P
the titans. soft draw for you CF if i was in i could give you a run for your money.
is the draw posted anywhere yet?
The groups are on page 1. You play each team once than the top 2 from each group makes the final 8. You play each team once to make the top 4 which is the final series.
Round 2 has not been posted yet. It's 1v2 and 3v4 in your groups this week
Tough week for the Roulettes then, playing the team l see as favourites for the title......Mexico.
But dont count us out completely, both Swan and Ablett were quiet last week and they usually come back with a vengeance when they do that ........hmmm which one to make captain ;)
*it could even be the pseudo world club championship match........
WXV Reigning Premiers, Mexico City Suns vs EXV Reigning Premiers, Russian Roulettes
it's just unfortunate that it's at this end of the competition
you can still both make it through the group, that is if the roulllettes are good enough :)
Gauntlet picked-up and accepted ;)
Bears wont make it through so really it will all come down to Russia v Belgium next week, winner goes through.
Huuuuuuge game. I'll admit I'm pretty pumped for it. Hopefully Daisy is sub this week so he can be fit and firing next week and I hear Stanners is having a groin test this week! C'mon!
Quote from: My Chumps on April 10, 2013, 01:05:02 PM
Up against the Sweedish Metal.
They any good? :P
they just took out the euro preason final, beating the best team in the comp (my team ;) ) so yeah they are good.
got 151 champion points this week so that puts them 2nd behind the suns.
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Up against the Sweedish Metal.
They any good? :P
they just took out the euro preason final, beating the best team in the comp (my team ;) ) so yeah they are good.
got 151 champion points this week so that puts them 2nd behind the suns.
Hmmm, hopefully Daisy is back and not the sub this week then! Broughton back too would help and Cotchin pumping out another 170 vs the Bulldogs :P
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Up against the Sweedish Metal.
They any good? :P
they just took out the euro preason final, beating the best team in the comp (my team ;) ) so yeah they are good.
got 151 champion points this week so that puts them 2nd behind the suns.
Hmmm, hopefully Daisy is back and not the sub this week then! Broughton back too would help and Cotchin pumping out another 170 vs the Bulldogs :P
Hopefully Brian Lake is back for our backline.
The biggest issue the Metal has is too many midfielders
This is our midfield:
Jobe Watson (C)
Scott Thompson (ade)
Shane Tuck
Leigh Montagna
Daniel Cross
Nick Dal Santo
Lenny Hayes
Adam Treloar
Adam Cooney
Brock McLean
our biggest issue is picking only 6 out of that lot. Last week we lost quite a few points playing Tuck and spuds over guys like Cooney.
The Roulettes big strength is in the midfeild too
Ablett
Swan
Griffen
ROK
Moloney
Hodge
Howlett
Greene
Broadbent
Lower (if he isnt used as a tagger)
but we have real weaknesses in defence and up forward
How do you guys end up with midfields like that?!
I thought mine last year was good with Watson, Cotchin, J Selwood, JPK and ROK...
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How do you guys end up with midfields like that?!
I thought mine last year was good with Watson, Cotchin, J Selwood, JPK and ROK...
Trading 8)
are we doing that eliminator thing?
I inherited most of the Metal, meow did most of the work, though I did add 1-2 of them to the list through trading (same way meow acquired them I think)
Right now the Metal are hurting with Lake (who could go huge @ Hawks) and Stevie J both missing. With Stevie J out it forces us to play J. Brown or similar.
I'm excited to see what our NAT Draft recruit Jono O'Rourke is capable of once he debuts.
l got most of them in the initial draft and was lucky enough to get first pick (Dane Swan), which meant my first pick in the National draft was No14 and l got Toby Greene with that ;D
Then l did alot of trading at the end of the season and got in Ablett amongst others, the best part was that l didnt actually persue Ablett but was offered a deal......which l reluctantly accepted ::)
I miss trading haha :P
Quote from: elephants on April 10, 2013, 03:12:07 PM
I miss trading haha :P
me too......wanna negotiate an early one for the end of the season :P
trade me swan and ablett?
Both nearing retirement age
You can have Treloar and O'Rourke - both future stars you can build a team around.
Quote from: Ziplock on April 10, 2013, 02:29:08 PM
are we doing that eliminator thing?
yes we are, that is in the second half of the season after the champions league.
next year im tipping goddard and gibbs will lose DPP. it will mean my midfield stands as this
Goddard Gibbs Deledio Pendlebury Boyd Barlow D.Swallow K.Simpson L.Athony
Quote from: Nails on April 10, 2013, 03:19:39 PM
trade me swan and ablett?
Both nearing retirement age
You can have Treloar and O'Rourke - both future stars you can build a team around.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YeZshcGzeB0
Quote from: Holzman on April 10, 2013, 03:28:24 PM
next year im tipping goddard and gibbs will lose DPP. it will mean my midfield stands as this
Goddard Gibbs Deledio Pendlebury Boyd Barlow D.Swallow K.Simpson L.Athony
l'm hoping Hodgey keeps up his half-back role and is a defender for me
Mitchell to play off the half back all season and get DPP.
Quote from: LaHug on April 11, 2013, 01:14:45 AM
Mitchell to play off the half back all season and get DPP.
if he goes 105+ I cant see them giving it to them. I dont think VS likes players scoring above 100 if they are not mids.
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Mitchell to play off the half back all season and get DPP.
if he goes 105+ I cant see them giving it to them. I dont think VS likes players scoring above 100 if they are not mids.
Goddard in the past still got def status with a 105+ average the season before iirc. Could be wrong, but it does happen I think.
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Mitchell to play off the half back all season and get DPP.
if he goes 105+ I cant see them giving it to them. I dont think VS likes players scoring above 100 if they are not mids.
Goddard in the past still got def status with a 105+ average the season before iirc. Could be wrong, but it does happen I think.
differnece is he was a back, i cant see VS turning a mid into a back after a 105+ season. Goddard will probably keep DPP, but gibbs is gone. I drafted him as a young 110+ mid anyway.
Gibbs Pendles Lids Barlow will be carying the eagles mid year when we are in the champions league.
VS does all the positions by where a player spends their TOG.
that's why blicavs was initially assigned as mid only- if you look up his vfl stats last year, he barely had any HOs, and subsequently was playing mostly as a really tall midfielder, I assume to fast track his development for the cats. They changed his positional status in the end because it was ridiculous to have a 198cm mid only player who was clearly playing a majority of his game in the ruck, although, tbh I don't think they would have changed it if there'd been a larger game sample size (he only played like 4 vfl games or somrthing).
basically, scoring has nothing to do with positional allocation, it's all where you've been playing. That's why SC and DT have essentially identical player position allocations, despite different scoring systems.
Agree Zip - but they have been inconsistent in the past. Even though Ablett plays in the midfield most of the time, I was still surprised he wasn't given mid-fwd status the year after he kicked over 40 goals
Blicavs the first ruck-mid I've seen (though maybe Goodes a long time ago)
To be fair though GAJ generally scores most of those goals running through the midfield, not lining up in the forward line.
Round 2 Matches:
Sao Paulo Pumas (Crows Fan) v Greek Titans (Spinking)
Wellington Warriors v Spansih Stallions (Torp)
Macedonian Wolves (Scrads) v Buenos Aires Armadillos (Nails)
Iceland Polar Bears (HP) v Belgian Bashers (Ele)
Mexico City Suns v Russian Roulette's (Nostra)
Beijing Bears v Belgian Bashers (Ele)
Sweddish Metal (Nails) v Cape Town Cobras
Belarus Bisons (Lahug) v Moscow Spetsnaz
Its Worlds v Euro again this week.
Russian Roulettes
B: Waters, Hurn, Burgoyne, O'Brien
M: Swan (c), Ablett (vc), Griffen, ROK
R: Kreuzer
F: Chappy, JRoo, Motlop, Dickson
U: Moloney, Hodge
Emerg
Yarran (def)
Howlett (mid)
Varcoe(mid/fwd)
Macedonian Wolves
B: Hamish Hartlett, Greg Broughton, Brent Guerra, Lewis Stevenson
M: Brent Stanton(C), Chris Masten(VC), Brad Ebert, Liam Shiels
R: Matthew Leuenberger
F: Patty Ryder, Dustin Martin, Josh J. Kennedy, Luke Breust
U: Michael Walters, Nathan Van Berlo
In: Broughton, Walters, Van Berlo
Out: Gibson, Mackay, Schulz
E: Ryan Schoenmakers(B), David Mackay(M), Jay Schulz(F)
Belarus Bison
Def: H. Scotland, P. Duffield, T. Chaplin, J. Russell
Mid: S. Mitchell (C), D. Armitage, D. Mundy, C. Jones
Ruc: S. Jacobs
Fwd: D. Zorko, T. Rockliff (VC), J. Roughead, A. Monfries
Util: D. Jackson, Q. Lynch
Emg: J. Bolton, L. Brown, M. Stokes
holz do i need to post iceland's team in here aswell as the euro's or just there?
Keep going, Duffy!!! Need to make up for Mundy not going...
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holz do i need to post iceland's team in here aswell as the euro's or just there?
just post in the euro i will just take the scores from the euro and world threads. you cant post two different teams so no point.
Good thing Nails has Watson too! Dodged a bullet there...
Results? :)
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Results? :)
sorry MC, have been swamped at work last few days, im doing the euro this afternoon and when thats done results will be posted up almost imeditely after that.
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Results? :)
sorry MC, have been swamped at work last few days, im doing the euro this afternoon and when thats done results will be posted up almost imeditely after that.
That's fine man! No rush, I was just wondering. Cheers!
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Results? :)
sorry MC, have been swamped at work last few days, im doing the euro this afternoon and when thats done results will be posted up almost imeditely after that.
That's fine man! No rush, I was just wondering. Cheers!
you have been spoilt with ossie, you will see just how good he is, in comparison to the champions league and euro.
Sao Paulo Pumas (Crows Fan) 160 defeated Greek Titans (Spinking) 85
Wellington Warriors 109 lost to Spansih Stallions (Torp) 127
Macedonian Wolves (Scrads) 148 defeated Buenos Aires Armadillos (Nails) 131
Tortonto Wolves (RB) 151 defeated Iceland Polar Bears (HP) 149
Mexico City Suns 148 defeated Russian Roulette's (Nostra) 141
Beijing Bears 101 lost to Belgian Bashers (Ele) 133
Sweddish Metal (Nails) 137 defeated Cape Town Cobras 134
Belarus Bisons (Lahug) 136 lost to Moscow Spetsnaz 139
just to make you all scared for next year. Eagles posted a 150 and boydy set to come in this week. Will put the world scores in, will have to check with ossie to get the home ground advantage removed.
4- 4 for the euro and worlds again. looks like the scoring system works.
How did I score 129 in the Euros but 133 in Champs league Holz?
Quote from: elephants on April 18, 2013, 01:49:10 AM
How did I score 129 in the Euros but 133 in Champs league Holz?
Euros scores get boosted slightly by 3% (I think) i.e. 129 * 1.03 to make up the scoring differences between a dream team and a supercoach system.
Ah, of course, Cheers man
Quote from: Holzman on April 18, 2013, 01:18:37 AM
Sao Paulo Pumas (Crows Fan) 160 defeated Greek Titans (Spinking) 85
Wellington Warriors 109 lost to Spansih Stallions (Torp) 127
Macedonian Wolves (Scrads) 148 defeated Buenos Aires Armadillos (Nails)
Tortonto Wolves (RB) v Iceland Polar Bears (HP) 149
Mexico City Suns 148 defeated Russian Roulette's (Nostra) 141
Beijing Bears 101 lost to Belgian Bashers (Ele) 133
Sweddish Metal (Nails) 137 defeated Cape Town Cobras 134
Belarus Bisons (Lahug) 136 v Moscow Spetsnaz
just to make you all scared for next year. Eagles posted a 150 and boydy set to come in this week. Will put the world scores in, will have to check with ossie to get the home ground advantage removed.
Does that mean l would have had a win if l had home ground advantage?
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Quote from: Holzman on April 18, 2013, 01:18:37 AM
Sao Paulo Pumas (Crows Fan) 160 defeated Greek Titans (Spinking) 85
Wellington Warriors 109 lost to Spansih Stallions (Torp) 127
Macedonian Wolves (Scrads) 148 defeated Buenos Aires Armadillos (Nails)
Tortonto Wolves (RB) v Iceland Polar Bears (HP) 149
Mexico City Suns 148 defeated Russian Roulette's (Nostra) 141
Beijing Bears 101 lost to Belgian Bashers (Ele) 133
Sweddish Metal (Nails) 137 defeated Cape Town Cobras 134
Belarus Bisons (Lahug) 136 v Moscow Spetsnaz
just to make you all scared for next year. Eagles posted a 150 and boydy set to come in this week. Will put the world scores in, will have to check with ossie to get the home ground advantage removed.
Does that mean l would have had a win if l had home ground advantage?
no home ground advantage in the champions league. But as the world scores include home ground advantage for say the armidilos i need to get the scores without the home ground advantage.
the euro is all done as obviously I have acess to all the scores, so have taken the scores without home ground advantage but i have added the 3% euro bonus.
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Quote from: Holzman on April 18, 2013, 01:18:37 AM
Sao Paulo Pumas (Crows Fan) 160 defeated Greek Titans (Spinking) 85
Wellington Warriors 109 lost to Spansih Stallions (Torp) 127
Macedonian Wolves (Scrads) 148 defeated Buenos Aires Armadillos (Nails)
Tortonto Wolves (RB) v Iceland Polar Bears (HP) 149
Mexico City Suns 148 defeated Russian Roulette's (Nostra) 141
Beijing Bears 101 lost to Belgian Bashers (Ele) 133
Sweddish Metal (Nails) 137 defeated Cape Town Cobras 134
Belarus Bisons (Lahug) 136 v Moscow Spetsnaz
just to make you all scared for next year. Eagles posted a 150 and boydy set to come in this week. Will put the world scores in, will have to check with ossie to get the home ground advantage removed.
Does that mean l would have had a win if l had home ground advantage?
no home ground advantage in the champions league. But as the world scores include home ground advantage for say the armidilos i need to get the scores without the home ground advantage.
the euro is all done as obviously I have acess to all the scores, so have taken the scores without home ground advantage but i have added the 3% euro bonus.
cheers Holz, thanks for that mate
That makes the Bashers vs Roulettes a huuuuuge game then!
Quote from: elephants on April 18, 2013, 07:05:48 PM
That makes the Bashers vs Roulettes a huuuuuge game then!
Sure does Ele, l hope we dont any have late outs to spoil it for one of us
....l'm just spewin l fell a little bit short against the Suns last week
Iceland Polar Bears
Def: C.Dempsey, A.Mackie, J.Harbrow, J. Carlisle.
Mids: S.Selwood, J.McVeigh (C), M.Duncan (VC), C.Judd.
Ruck: J.Griffin.
Fwds: J.Lewis, C.Mayne, R. Gray, R.Stanley.
Int: S. Mumford, C. Wingard.
Emg: D.Wells, A.Rance, L.Adams.
Not sure if meant to name a team or not, just to be sure :P.
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That makes the Bashers vs Roulettes a huuuuuge game then!
Sure does Ele, l hope we dont any have late outs to spoil it for one of us
....l'm just spewin l fell a little bit short against the Suns last week
Yeah you gave it a real crack! If Gazz doesn't get up it'd really help me with my decimated fwd line aha :P
Mexico can't be beaten. 8)
Round 1 scores without home advantage
Beijing Bears 965
Buenos Aires Armadillos 1419
Cape Town Cobras 1395
Mexico City Suns 1664
Moscow Spetsnaz 1224
Sao Paulo Pumas 1378
Toronto Wolves 1286
Wellington Warriors 1027
Round 2 scores without home advantage
Beijing Bears 1011
Buenos Aires Armadillos 1309
Cape Town Cobras 1357
Mexico City Suns 1485
Moscow Spetsnaz 1394
Sao Paulo Pumas 1598
Toronto Wolves 1506
Wellington Warriors 1091
top stuff ossie,
4-4 again so thats 8 wins euro, 8 wins worlds.
Edit - whoops, gave the Pumas too much credit in round 1
Great stuff Holz right back at ya!
fixed again
how fitting the 2 wolve teams now split the points with the first draw of the champions league.
Quote from: Holzman on April 18, 2013, 01:18:37 AM
Sao Paulo Pumas (Crows Fan) 160 defeated Greek Titans (Spinking) 85
Wellington Warriors 109 lost to Spansih Stallions (Torp) 127
Macedonian Wolves (Scrads) 148 defeated Buenos Aires Armadillos (Nails) 131
Tortonto Wolves (RB) 151 defeated Iceland Polar Bears (HP) 149
Mexico City Suns 148 defeated Russian Roulette's (Nostra) 141
Beijing Bears 101 lost to Belgian Bashers (Ele) 133
Sweddish Metal (Nails) 137 defeated Cape Town Cobras 134
Belarus Bisons (Lahug) 136 lost to Moscow Spetsnaz 139
just to make you all scared for next year. Eagles posted a 150 and boydy set to come in this week. Will put the world scores in, will have to check with ossie to get the home ground advantage removed.
4- 4 for the euro and worlds again. looks like the scoring system works.
Would have won this one if I had the ability to name the right team as well. Damn it!
Macedonian Wolves
B: Hamish Hartlett, Greg Broughton, Brent Guerra, Lewis Stevenson
M: Brent Stanton(C), Chris Masten(VC), Brad Ebert, Liam Shiels
R: Matthew Leuenberger
F: Jay Schulz, Dustin Martin, Josh J. Kennedy, Luke Breust
U: Michael Walters, David Mackay
E: Ryan Schoenmakers(B), Lewis Jetta(M/F), Ayce Cordy(F/R)
Out: Nathan Van Berlo, Patty Ryder
In: David Mackay, Jay Schulz
Belarus Bison
Def: H. Scotland, P. Duffield, T. Chaplin, H. Taylor
Mid: S. Mitchell (C), D. Armitage, D. Mundy, C. Jones
Ruc: S. Jacobs
Fwd: D. Zorko, T. Rockliff (VC), J. Roughead, A. Monfries
Util: C. Sylvia, D. Jackson
Emg: Q. Lynch, J. Russell, M. Stokes
Quote from: Holzman on April 18, 2013, 01:18:37 AM
Sao Paulo Pumas (Crows Fan) 160 defeated Greek Titans (Spinking) 85
Wellington Warriors 109 lost to Spansih Stallions (Torp) 127
Macedonian Wolves (Scrads) 148 defeated Buenos Aires Armadillos (Nails) 131
Tortonto Wolves (RB) 151 defeated Iceland Polar Bears (HP) 149
Mexico City Suns 148 defeated Russian Roulette's (Nostra) 141
Beijing Bears 101 lost to Belgian Bashers (Ele) 133
Sweddish Metal (Nails) 137 defeated Cape Town Cobras 134
Belarus Bisons (Lahug) 136 lost to Moscow Spetsnaz 139
just to make you all scared for next year. Eagles posted a 150 and boydy set to come in this week. Will put the world scores in, will have to check with ossie to get the home ground advantage removed.
4- 4 for the euro and worlds again. looks like the scoring system works.
I would have beaten almost every other team with that score :'(.
Armadillos realising their Champions league hopes were on the line SMASHED out a score of 181 (yes, this is without HGA)
Armadillos also looking forward to the return of Matthew Boyd next week.
WXV Scores without HGA
Beijing 1113
Buenos Aires 1813
Cape Town 1397
Mexico City 1559
Moscow 1313
Sao Paulo 1570
Toronto 1360
Wellington 1133
Glad to get the win over Moscow! Needed it.
when will last weeks results and this weeks fixtures be posted?
Quote from: nostradamus on April 24, 2013, 08:56:35 PM
when will last weeks results and this weeks fixtures be posted?
Unfortunately not till Friday. Just finishing off my busiest part of the year. Than should be smooth sailing from then on
Quote from: Holzman on April 24, 2013, 09:53:31 PM
Quote from: nostradamus on April 24, 2013, 08:56:35 PM
when will last weeks results and this weeks fixtures be posted?
Unfortunately not till Friday. Just finishing off my busiest part of the year. Than should be smooth sailing from then on
ok mate, all good ......l was just curious
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Quote from: Holzman on April 24, 2013, 09:53:31 PM
Quote from: nostradamus on April 24, 2013, 08:56:35 PM
when will last weeks results and this weeks fixtures be posted?
Unfortunately not till Friday. Just finishing off my busiest part of the year. Than should be smooth sailing from then on
ok mate, all good ......l was just curious
So am I really keen to see how many euro squads make the cut
Quote from: Holzman on April 24, 2013, 10:34:39 PM
Quote from: nostradamus on April 24, 2013, 10:00:21 PM
Quote from: Holzman on April 24, 2013, 09:53:31 PM
Quote from: nostradamus on April 24, 2013, 08:56:35 PM
when will last weeks results and this weeks fixtures be posted?
Unfortunately not till Friday. Just finishing off my busiest part of the year. Than should be smooth sailing from then on
ok mate, all good ......l was just curious
So am I really keen to see how many euro squads make the cut
l think l just snuck in for a win over the bashers....if l did l'm through 8)
But in all honesty l dont think any of the Euro teams can match it with the scoring potential of the top teams from the WXV :'(
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Quote from: nostradamus on April 24, 2013, 10:00:21 PM
Quote from: Holzman on April 24, 2013, 09:53:31 PM
Quote from: nostradamus on April 24, 2013, 08:56:35 PM
when will last weeks results and this weeks fixtures be posted?
Unfortunately not till Friday. Just finishing off my busiest part of the year. Than should be smooth sailing from then on
ok mate, all good ......l was just curious
So am I really keen to see how many euro squads make the cut
l think l just snuck in for a win over the bashers....if l did l'm through 8)
But in all honesty l dont think any of the Euro teams can match it with the scoring potential of the top teams from the WXV :'(
You could this week with swan probably going huge and ablett likely going big.
Eagles could do some damage I think.
Iceland Polar Bears
Def: C.Dempsey, A.Mackie, J.Harbrow, J. Carlisle.
Mids: S.Selwood (C), J.McVeigh (VC), M.Duncan, C.Judd.
Ruck: J.Griffin.
Fwds: J.Lewis, C.Mayne, R. Gray, L.Adams.
Int: D.Wells, C. Wingard.
Emg: S. Mumford, A.Rance, R.Stanley.
OUT: R. Stanley, S. Mumford.
IN: L. Adams, D. Wells.
Mummy gets the cut this week after a disappointing run of late.
So who am I playing this round??
he was a little spanish flea
Are we going to get results for this soon? I feel like we are 3 weeks behind now...
Shouldn't be too hard to work out the results of the non-scaled Worlds games in round 3 (it was a Worlds v Worlds match I believe, and I no home game advantage for those games)
Guess you didn't get around to it? :(
ok this is super dleayed but the results of the group stages are up. 4 euro teams and 4 worlds teams were eliminated so its all sqaure with a 4-4 spread for the ladder stages.
you play each team once and the fixtures are on the first page. Results arent up yet as i need to get the worlds scores wihtout home ground advantage.
Does this effectively mean that we've already played some of the round robin matches? ...... and if so where are we up to this week?
Quote from: nostradamus on May 14, 2013, 06:57:04 PM
Does this effectively mean that we've already played some of the round robin matches? ...... and if so where are we up to this week?
Yes we have played the first 3 rounds.
What about rounds 4-5-6 ? There has been enough rounds for them to be done
Or because the scores weren't updated they start now?
Bugger. Ah well, still gotta be content with 1 win I guess haha
Quote from: Nails on May 14, 2013, 07:47:53 PM
What about rounds 4-5-6 ? There has been enough rounds for them to be done
Or because the scores weren't updated they start now?
Rounds 2 3 4 of the afl were the group stages. Rounds 5 6 7 of the afl were the first 3 rounds of the play everyone once phase. So those 3 will be updated soon. This round will be round 4
Quote from: Holzman on May 14, 2013, 08:28:10 PM
Quote from: Nails on May 14, 2013, 07:47:53 PM
What about rounds 4-5-6 ? There has been enough rounds for them to be done
Or because the scores weren't updated they start now?
Rounds 2 3 4 of the afl were the group stages. Rounds 5 6 7 of the afl were the first 3 rounds of the play everyone once phase. So those 3 will be updated soon. This round will be round 4
Cool 8) ......am pretty interested to see how everyone's going
Round 5 scores (no HGA because of rivalry round)
Beijing Bears 1026
Buenos Aires Armadillos 1550
Cape Town Cobras 1400
Mexico City Suns 1572
Moscow Spetsnaz 1328
Sao Paulo Pumas 1642
Toronto Wolves 1419
Wellington Warriors 1187
Round 6 scores (minus HGA)
Beijing Bears 1151
Buenos Aires Armadillos 1563
Cape Town Cobras 1359
Mexico City Suns 1668
Moscow Spetsnaz 1333
Sao Paulo Pumas 1465
Toronto Wolves 1520
Wellington Warriors 1081
Round 7 scores (minus HGA)
Beijing Bears 978
Buenos Aires Armadillos 1574
Cape Town Cobras 1443
Mexico City Suns 1677
Moscow Spetsnaz 1370
Sao Paulo Pumas 1401
Toronto Wolves 1349
Wellington Warriors 988
Ladder:
Mexico City Suns 3W 0L 128%
Sao Paulo Pumas 2W 1L 119%
Sweddish Metal 2W 1L 110%
Buenos Aires Armadillos 2W 1L 105%
Cape Town Cobras 2W 1L 97%
Russian Roulette's 1W 2L 96%
Macedonian Wolves 0W 3L 88%
Greek Titans 0W 3L 79%
Points Scored
Mexico City Suns 492
Buenos Aires Armadillos 468
Sao Paulo Pumas 451
Sweddish Metal 448
Cape Town Cobras 420
Russian Roulette's 425
Macedonian Wolves 398
Greek Titans 375
finally got all the scores sorted, conrgrats to the Suns being the only undefeated team. Good showing by the worlds teams sitting in 1st 2nd 3rd and 5th.
lift your game Euro members you have the Eagles not even competing and have put up scores of 155 145 156 for a total of 456 and woudl be 3rd on total points.
Good to have 2 teams in the top 4 and the only Euros team in the top 4 :)
Quote from: Nails on May 15, 2013, 10:55:59 AM
Good to have 2 teams in the top 4 and the only Euros team in the top 4 :)
congrats nails, I woudl have you but im not in it :(
your ex team the titans strugling but at least they made the final 8.
Worlds domination!
Quote from: ossie85 on May 15, 2013, 11:14:12 AM
Worlds domination!
maybee its because the euro is a more even comp ossie ;)
which is a bit odd considering worlds is significantly more structured/ rigid than euros.
how have you ended up with such team disparity is beyond me :P
Quote from: Ziplock on May 15, 2013, 04:58:01 PM
which is a bit odd considering worlds is significantly more structured/ rigid than euros.
how have you ended up with such team disparity is beyond me :P
it is abit strange considering they block trades and I have never blockeda trade beofre (will next year). I think its because SC is the inferior scoring system and its very uneven compared to DT. Also the fact euro has only 14 teams its means most have quality players and the depth is quite strong.
Quote from: Holzman on May 15, 2013, 06:31:38 PM
Quote from: Ziplock on May 15, 2013, 04:58:01 PM
which is a bit odd considering worlds is significantly more structured/ rigid than euros.
how have you ended up with such team disparity is beyond me :P
it is abit strange considering they block trades and I have never blockeda trade beofre (will next year). I think its because SC is the inferior scoring system and its very uneven compared to DT. Also the fact euro has only 14 teams its means most have quality players and the depth is quite strong.
lol, SC inferior? DT is simpler, but simpler is not superior. SC at least attempts to measure reality (you can argue on how well it does it), DT doesn't care about reality.
But, the reason for the disparity was because of some very poor trading by some coaches.
this is what I'm confused about, like you have strong blocking systems... how come shower trades weren't blocked?
Quote from: Ziplock on May 15, 2013, 06:51:46 PM
this is what I'm confused about, like you have strong blocking systems... how come shower trades weren't blocked?
Cos people were too nice or didn't care or were afraid that people would block there trades :(
Quote from: ossie85 on May 15, 2013, 06:36:09 PM
Quote from: Holzman on May 15, 2013, 06:31:38 PM
Quote from: Ziplock on May 15, 2013, 04:58:01 PM
which is a bit odd considering worlds is significantly more structured/ rigid than euros.
how have you ended up with such team disparity is beyond me :P
it is abit strange considering they block trades and I have never blockeda trade beofre (will next year). I think its because SC is the inferior scoring system and its very uneven compared to DT. Also the fact euro has only 14 teams its means most have quality players and the depth is quite strong.
lol, SC inferior? DT is simpler, but simpler is not superior. SC at least attempts to measure reality (you can argue on how well it does it), DT doesn't care about reality.
But, the reason for the disparity was because of some very poor trading by some coaches.
The equalisation factor (1.03) should have been based on only the teams in the Champions League instead of across the whole league........this is the reason for the disparity in scoring
Pretty sure it was already adjusted to be like that just before the start of the comp Nostra
Quote from: Nails on May 15, 2013, 10:13:19 PM
Pretty sure it was already adjusted to be like that just before the start of the comp Nostra
Cheers Nails, l must have got it wrong. l thought it was based on the whole leagues
Quote from: nostradamus on May 15, 2013, 09:43:13 PM
Quote from: ossie85 on May 15, 2013, 06:36:09 PM
Quote from: Holzman on May 15, 2013, 06:31:38 PM
Quote from: Ziplock on May 15, 2013, 04:58:01 PM
which is a bit odd considering worlds is significantly more structured/ rigid than euros.
how have you ended up with such team disparity is beyond me :P
it is abit strange considering they block trades and I have never blockeda trade beofre (will next year). I think its because SC is the inferior scoring system and its very uneven compared to DT. Also the fact euro has only 14 teams its means most have quality players and the depth is quite strong.
lol, SC inferior? DT is simpler, but simpler is not superior. SC at least attempts to measure reality (you can argue on how well it does it), DT doesn't care about reality.
But, the reason for the disparity was because of some very poor trading by some coaches.
The equalisation factor (1.03) should have been based on only the teams in the Champions League instead of across the whole league........this is the reason for the disparity in scoring
That is one way too look at it, I really think its more to do with the fact that teams changed soo much over the trading, which wont be the case next year.
If you remove the titans and put the eagles into the comp than we would probably have 2 of the top 4/5 spots.
Quote from: nostradamus on May 15, 2013, 09:43:13 PM
Quote from: ossie85 on May 15, 2013, 06:36:09 PM
Quote from: Holzman on May 15, 2013, 06:31:38 PM
Quote from: Ziplock on May 15, 2013, 04:58:01 PM
which is a bit odd considering worlds is significantly more structured/ rigid than euros.
how have you ended up with such team disparity is beyond me :P
it is abit strange considering they block trades and I have never blockeda trade beofre (will next year). I think its because SC is the inferior scoring system and its very uneven compared to DT. Also the fact euro has only 14 teams its means most have quality players and the depth is quite strong.
lol, SC inferior? DT is simpler, but simpler is not superior. SC at least attempts to measure reality (you can argue on how well it does it), DT doesn't care about reality.
But, the reason for the disparity was because of some very poor trading by some coaches.
The equalisation factor (1.03) should have been based on only the teams in the Champions League instead of across the whole league........this is the reason for the disparity in scoring
Very much disagree! That punishes teams for doing extremely well.
Quote from: ossie85 on May 16, 2013, 07:56:06 AM
Quote from: nostradamus on May 15, 2013, 09:43:13 PM
Quote from: ossie85 on May 15, 2013, 06:36:09 PM
Quote from: Holzman on May 15, 2013, 06:31:38 PM
Quote from: Ziplock on May 15, 2013, 04:58:01 PM
which is a bit odd considering worlds is significantly more structured/ rigid than euros.
how have you ended up with such team disparity is beyond me :P
it is abit strange considering they block trades and I have never blockeda trade beofre (will next year). I think its because SC is the inferior scoring system and its very uneven compared to DT. Also the fact euro has only 14 teams its means most have quality players and the depth is quite strong.
lol, SC inferior? DT is simpler, but simpler is not superior. SC at least attempts to measure reality (you can argue on how well it does it), DT doesn't care about reality.
But, the reason for the disparity was because of some very poor trading by some coaches.
The equalisation factor (1.03) should have been based on only the teams in the Champions League instead of across the whole league........this is the reason for the disparity in scoring
Very much disagree! That punishes teams for doing extremely well.
It based across the whole league. If it wasnt i think it would be 5-6% not 3%
Holz wasn't it originally based off the whole league
but then you noticed like every team from one of the competitions won
Then you rejigged it to be only those team in the top 8 that affected the adjustment?
Quote from: Nails on May 16, 2013, 10:41:03 AM
Holz wasn't it originally based off the whole league
but then you noticed like every team from one of the competitions won
Then you rejigged it to be only those team in the top 8 that affected the adjustment?
no they still are for the whole leagues. The euro did compete 4 from both comp made it through but the worlds top 4 is hard to crack. they will probably win but the metal eagles roulettes can compete with the 3% handicap.
Quote from: ossie85 on May 16, 2013, 07:56:06 AM
Quote from: nostradamus on May 15, 2013, 09:43:13 PM
Quote from: ossie85 on May 15, 2013, 06:36:09 PM
Quote from: Holzman on May 15, 2013, 06:31:38 PM
Quote from: Ziplock on May 15, 2013, 04:58:01 PM
which is a bit odd considering worlds is significantly more structured/ rigid than euros.
how have you ended up with such team disparity is beyond me :P
it is abit strange considering they block trades and I have never blockeda trade beofre (will next year). I think its because SC is the inferior scoring system and its very uneven compared to DT. Also the fact euro has only 14 teams its means most have quality players and the depth is quite strong.
lol, SC inferior? DT is simpler, but simpler is not superior. SC at least attempts to measure reality (you can argue on how well it does it), DT doesn't care about reality.
But, the reason for the disparity was because of some very poor trading by some coaches.
The equalisation factor (1.03) should have been based on only the teams in the Champions League instead of across the whole league........this is the reason for the disparity in scoring
Very much disagree! That punishes teams for doing extremely well.
you mean rewards your competition for not appropriately adjudicating trade decision?
Indeed it does Zip
Quote from: Holzman on May 16, 2013, 09:30:56 AM
Quote from: ossie85 on May 16, 2013, 07:56:06 AM
Quote from: nostradamus on May 15, 2013, 09:43:13 PM
Quote from: ossie85 on May 15, 2013, 06:36:09 PM
Quote from: Holzman on May 15, 2013, 06:31:38 PM
Quote from: Ziplock on May 15, 2013, 04:58:01 PM
which is a bit odd considering worlds is significantly more structured/ rigid than euros.
how have you ended up with such team disparity is beyond me :P
it is abit strange considering they block trades and I have never blockeda trade beofre (will next year). I think its because SC is the inferior scoring system and its very uneven compared to DT. Also the fact euro has only 14 teams its means most have quality players and the depth is quite strong.
lol, SC inferior? DT is simpler, but simpler is not superior. SC at least attempts to measure reality (you can argue on how well it does it), DT doesn't care about reality.
But, the reason for the disparity was because of some very poor trading by some coaches.
The equalisation factor (1.03) should have been based on only the teams in the Champions League instead of across the whole league........this is the reason for the disparity in scoring
Very much disagree! That punishes teams for doing extremely well.
It based across the whole league. If it wasnt i think it would be 5-6% not 3%
thats the point l'm making
To be fair the current standings are only after 3 games. Remember where Essendon were after 9 games last year?
Can't really be certain until we've played every team once. Also the Greek Titans are a poor representative of the Euros competition to be honest. They only got in due to last year obviously but are a different team this year.
Swedish Metal are competitive at least. Also considering 4 teams from each comp made it through so not as drastic as some seem to make out.
Hand me the trophy now ;)
Haha why? Still the knockout phase after this, and we all know (me more than most) anything can happen in one off games...
Results from the last 2 rounds?
Mexico City Suns 147 lost to Russian Roulettes 150
Macedonian Wolves 124 lost to Buenos Aires Armadillos 138
Sweddish Metal 157 lost to Sao Paulo Pumas 162
Greek Titans 149 defeated Cape Town Cobras 141
the euro steps up this week. eagles scored a 159 which i think would have top scored the round.
Maca declares himself the winner than goes down.
Waiting on scores from worlds without home ground advantage.
Is that from the weekend just gone or the previous? I'll get you the WXV without HGA.
Quote from: Nails on May 28, 2013, 04:22:31 PM
Is that from the weekend just gone or the previous? I'll get you the WXV without HGA.
thats the weekend before. Im doing the euro this afternoon, but if you have the worlds scores than i can get the champs done for last week and this week.
That round the Pumas scored 1,615 without HGA. For the round just gone we scored 1,467.
Armadillos - 138
Pumas - 162
Cobras - ... they didn't update their team and their HGA was 27 so it depends on rounding up/down as they scored 144 without HGA
So I think they scored like 141 I guess?
The Metal would run into the Pumas when they're the only team to outscore them. Typical bloody bad luck I have vs. CF ::)
Defence: G.Broughton 88, L.Spurr 79, L.Dunn 66, J.Gwilt 83
Midfield: J.Watson (C) 288, J.Kennedy 151, R.O'Keefe 70, T.Cotchin (VC) 119
Forward: J.Garlett 84, T.Hawkins 79, C.Bird 37, J.Cameron 68
Ruck: Z.Smith 27
Utilities: A.Cooney 107, E.Curnow 72
1,418
So they scored 142
Would be nice if Chumps updated it for us :( lol
Quote from: Nails on May 28, 2013, 04:52:29 PM
The Metal would run into the Pumas when they're the only team to outscore them. Typical bloody bad luck I have vs. CF ::)
Haha you just love playing me don't you :P
Quote from: Holzman on May 28, 2013, 04:21:08 PM
Mexico City Suns 147 lost to Russian Roulettes 150
Macedonian Wolves 124 lost to Buenos Aires Armadillos 138
Sweddish Metal 157 lost to Sao Paulo Pumas 162
Greek Titans 149 defeated Cape Town Cobras 141
the euro steps up this week. eagles scored a 159 which i think would have top scored the round.
Maca declares himself the winner than goes down.
Waiting on scores from worlds without home ground advantage.
Isn't that 2 weeks ago? Not "steps up this week"
I did it from Worlds round 8 (i.e. AFL round 8)
Hey Nails, my Roulettes play your Metal this week 8)
A big game with both sitting on 3 wins 3 losses
Quote from: nostradamus on May 28, 2013, 07:03:06 PM
Hey Nails, my Roulettes play your Metal this week 8)
A big game with both sitting on 3 wins 3 losses
How can you both be sitting on 3 wins and 3 losses when there has only been 5 rounds played? ??? Plus the results from round 5 haven't been announced yet...
Quote from: CrowsFan on May 28, 2013, 07:27:14 PM
Quote from: nostradamus on May 28, 2013, 07:03:06 PM
Hey Nails, my Roulettes play your Metal this week 8)
A big game with both sitting on 3 wins 3 losses
How can you both be sitting on 3 wins and 3 losses when there has only been 5 rounds played? ??? Plus the results from round 5 haven't been announced yet...
ummm, because l stuffed up :-[
it's actually Metal 2 wins 3 losses and Roulettes 3 wins 2 losses right now, and we play this week
Ah ok right. Looks like maca has lost both his matches since declaring he should be handed the trophy, whereas I have won both, which means I am now on top! 8)
Quote from: CrowsFan on May 28, 2013, 07:49:13 PM
Ah ok right. Looks like maca has lost both his matches since declaring he should be handed the trophy, whereas I have won both, which means I am now on top! 8)
l started by playing all you guys from WXV and finish with the 3 from EXV
how are Metal 2 wins and 3 losses? Our match this weekend should have been a win vs. the Suns making us 3-2
Roulettes: 158
Metal: 159
Wolves 140
Titans: TBA
sorry guys super late need to leave work.
on a side note wathc out next year. Eagles pulled a 164.
Quote from: Nails on May 28, 2013, 07:59:24 PM
how are Metal 2 wins and 3 losses? Our match this weekend should have been a win vs. the Suns making us 3-2
l probably stuffed up again :P
QuoteRoulettes: 158
Metal: 159
This weekend does look good though Nostra. Though that score is deflated with the Hayes injury/sub lowering our total.
Quote from: Nails on May 28, 2013, 08:08:38 PM
QuoteRoulettes: 158
Metal: 159
This weekend does look good though Nostra. Though that score is deflated with the Hayes injury/sub lowering our total.
you're right it'll be a good match-up
BXV are going to be in this next year right?
are our scores going to be deducted to make it even? probably been posted before but not sure where
just asking because 3 of our teams scored close to 1900 last round
So... what rounds do you need?
This rounds scores are (AFL Round 9):
Buenos Aires: 1436
Cape Town: 1344
Mexico City: 1506
Sao Paulo: 1467
Last week (AFL Round 8):
Buenos Aires: 1383
Cape Town: 1418
Mexico City: 1465
Sao Paulo: 1615
So the below is almost correct for Round 8, except Cape Town should be 142 not 141
Mexico City Suns 147 lost to Russian Roulettes 150
Macedonian Wolves 124 lost to Buenos Aires Armadillos 138
Sweddish Metal 157 lost to Sao Paulo Pumas 162
Greek Titans 149 defeated Cape Town Cobras 141
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on May 29, 2013, 04:25:10 AM
BXV are going to be in this next year right?
are our scores going to be deducted to make it even? probably been posted before but not sure where
just asking because 3 of our teams scored close to 1900 last round
the other teams will be scaled up to match you.
thanks ossie, top stuff.
I don't even know what's happening with this?
Who am I playing, what's the ladder, etc...
Round 5
Russian Roulettes 158 defeated Macedonian Wolves 140
Mexico City Suns 151 lost to Sweddish Metal 159
Buenos Aires Armadillos 144 defeated Greek Titans 117
Sao Paulo Pumas 147 defeated Cape Town Cobras 134
Round 6
Sweddish Metal v Russian Roulettes
Greek Titans v Macedonian Wolves
Cape Town Cobras v Mexico City Suns
Sao Paulo Pumas v Buenos Aires Armadillos
Quote from: Maca24 on May 29, 2013, 10:35:30 AM
I don't even know what's happening with this?
Who am I playing, what's the ladder, etc...
its all in the opening post.
What happens next year Holz?
A hypothetical...
Say if Cape Town win this year's Champions league, but don't finish in the top 4 in the 2013 Worlds (btw - is it top 4 before or after finals?). Do they still qualify for next year's league?
Quote from: ossie85 on May 29, 2013, 02:57:25 PM
What happens next year Holz?
A hypothetical...
Say if Cape Town win this year's Champions league, but don't finish in the top 4 in the 2013 Worlds (btw - is it top 4 before or after finals?). Do they still qualify for next year's league?
I have been considering that only 4 teams can qualifiy from each comp at this stage so if last years premiers do than the team in 4th misses out which is abit unfair or you could do it so they get a bye through the group stages and have the best 7 from the group stages go through with lowest scoring team finsihing second in their group being eliminated.
Not sure on this yet.
Im leaning towards either the champions have to qualify or they get a bye in the group stages.
Quote from: Holzman on May 29, 2013, 03:04:20 PM
Quote from: ossie85 on May 29, 2013, 02:57:25 PM
What happens next year Holz?
A hypothetical...
Say if Cape Town win this year's Champions league, but don't finish in the top 4 in the 2013 Worlds (btw - is it top 4 before or after finals?). Do they still qualify for next year's league?
I have been considering that only 4 teams can qualifiy from each comp at this stage so if last years premiers do than the team in 4th misses out which is abit unfair or you could do it so they get a bye through the group stages and have the best 7 from the group stages go through with lowest scoring team finsihing second in their group being eliminated.
Not sure on this yet.
Im leaning towards either the champions have to qualify or they get a bye in the group stages.
I like the idea of last years champions getting the bye
No probs :) Just thinking it probably should be made clear now to avoid any potential controversy.
Sorry - is it the top 4 from each league before finals, or after finals?
Quote from: ossie85 on May 29, 2013, 03:17:41 PM
No probs :) Just thinking it probably should be made clear now to avoid any potential controversy.
Sorry - is it the top 4 from each league before finals, or after finals?
its before the finals and I have decided last years premiers get auto selection.
however to win the champs league you have to have a really strong side and you would be a shoe in to be top 4 wouldnt you? I cant imagine it ever hapenning.
now just need to decide if they get a bye in the group stages.
Could happen in Asians, super even top 10.
Quote from: JBs-Hawks on May 29, 2013, 05:07:05 PM
Could happen in Asians, super even top 10.
an asian team would have to win and with that even a comp its going to be hard.
Quote from: Holzman on May 29, 2013, 05:38:59 PM
Quote from: JBs-Hawks on May 29, 2013, 05:07:05 PM
Could happen in Asians, super even top 10.
an asian team would have to win and with that even a comp its going to be hard.
It's only even because 7-8 of our Best XV have been missing nearly every week.
Quote from: Nails on May 29, 2013, 05:41:59 PM
Quote from: Holzman on May 29, 2013, 05:38:59 PM
Quote from: JBs-Hawks on May 29, 2013, 05:07:05 PM
Could happen in Asians, super even top 10.
an asian team would have to win and with that even a comp its going to be hard.
It's only even because 7-8 of our Best XV have been missing nearly every week.
plus eagles are winning next year. I woudl probably win this year if i was in the comp.
Ossie, did you just delete a post? :o
So theoretically none of the competitions premiers could make the champions league? Say if they won the flag from fifth...
Yep nails, my own, made a mistake on phone
Quote from: ossie85 on May 29, 2013, 05:47:20 PM
So theoretically none of the competitions premiers could make the champions league? Say if they won the flag from fifth...
Yep nails, my own, made a mistake on phone
thats correct, you only auto qualify if you win the champions league. Much like in the EPL if you finsih in the top 4 you qualify.
So am I out or what?
Quote from: Maca24 on May 29, 2013, 06:45:22 PM
So am I out or what?
you're not out so it must be "what" :P
Quote from: Maca24 on May 29, 2013, 06:45:22 PM
So am I out or what?
you need to finsh top 4 and your 3rd so far.
Quote from: Holzman on May 29, 2013, 05:52:47 PM
Quote from: ossie85 on May 29, 2013, 05:47:20 PM
So theoretically none of the competitions premiers could make the champions league? Say if they won the flag from fifth...
Yep nails, my own, made a mistake on phone
thats correct, you only auto qualify if you win the champions league. Much like in the EPL if you finsih in the top 4 you qualify.
But the EPL doesn't have finals, so it isn't a fair comparison. I think the Champions league should guarantee the Champions make the league...
Quote from: ossie85 on May 30, 2013, 07:07:06 AM
Quote from: Holzman on May 29, 2013, 05:52:47 PM
Quote from: ossie85 on May 29, 2013, 05:47:20 PM
So theoretically none of the competitions premiers could make the champions league? Say if they won the flag from fifth...
Yep nails, my own, made a mistake on phone
thats correct, you only auto qualify if you win the champions league. Much like in the EPL if you finsih in the top 4 you qualify.
But the EPL doesn't have finals, so it isn't a fair comparison. I think the Champions league should guarantee the Champions make the league...
l totally agree........otherwise the title of the league itself is an oxy-moron
Yea should have the 4 prelim fiinalists. Reward for performing at the right time of year.
Damn it! Lost to Armadillos for the first time ever this round! Without HGA from either of us it finishes off 1,572 vs 1,602 :(
Quote from: CrowsFan on June 03, 2013, 10:48:57 PM
Damn it! Lost to Armadillos for the first time ever this round! Without HGA from either of us it finishes off 1,572 vs 1,602 :(
:D :D :D :D ARMADILLOS HERE WE GO!
Big week of Champions League for us this week. Pumas - one of the 3 teams above us before this round for Armadillos (WXVs)
Roulettes (sp?) - one of the 2 teams above us before this round for Metal (EXVs)
Think we beat both of you too :)
Congrats Nails. By the way if you look at the ladder you (Armadillos) are actually first, and me second. So we weren't actualyl above you ;)
Quote from: CrowsFan on June 03, 2013, 10:57:12 PM
Congrats Nails. By the way if you look at the ladder you (Armadillos) are actually first, and me second. So we weren't actualyl above you ;)
I was talking about WXV and EXV not Champions league. As in you're both teams that are one of very few above us. Therefore while we might not be above you in our respective leagues, it was very nice to get one up on you both here.
Ah ok that makes sense :)
Without HGA:
Buenos Aires: 1602
Cape Town: 1294
Mexico City: 1508
Sao Paulo: 1572
Up to 2nd :)
Top of the table clash this week, need to knock off Nails!
so results?
This sucks.
Quote from: Nails on June 07, 2013, 08:45:06 PM
so results?
This sucks.
Holz would probably appreciate help if you offered
I helped like last week :( lol I got uni assignments to do . It's alright I/we can wait no games from 3 weeks anyway.
Quote from: ossie85 on June 07, 2013, 08:54:40 PM
Quote from: Nails on June 07, 2013, 08:45:06 PM
so results?
This sucks.
Holz would probably appreciate help if you offered
It's alright ossie I'm up in Perth so when I get a free day I can smash it out.
No champs for 3 weeks
Understand being busy Holz, but in future I think this needs to be updated weekly. (Maybe get some help?)
Otherwise it loses momentum and isn't nearly as fun!
WXV Round 11 (AFL Round 11 + half of round 12) scores excl. HGA
Buenos Aires: 1,602
Cape Town: 1,243
Mexico City: 1,468
Sao Paulo: 1,553
Quote from: ossie85 on June 17, 2013, 02:07:07 PM
WXV Round 11 (AFL Round 11 + half of round 12) scores excl. HGA
Buenos Aires: 1,602
Cape Town: 1,243
Mexico City: 1,468
Sao Paulo: 1,553
Ooo without HGA makes me feel better
No Euros over MBR though (unless in rd13 Oss)
So not needed this week, cheers for the help though :)
No probs Nails
Moscow outscored you though this week - but still impressive
Yeah don't have to play Moscow again (unless we meet in finals) so it's nice.
Ossie there isn't any champs league over the 3 bye rounds, so no need to be putting up the scores :)
Quote from: CrowsFan on June 17, 2013, 03:29:07 PM
Ossie there isn't any champs league over the 3 bye rounds, so no need to be putting up the scores :)
Ah well, I just like bragging about my champions league children. Though Cape Town is looking a little sickly
Haha brag away :)
Quote from: ossie85 on June 17, 2013, 03:34:17 PM
Quote from: CrowsFan on June 17, 2013, 03:29:07 PM
Ossie there isn't any champs league over the 3 bye rounds, so no need to be putting up the scores :)
Ah well, I just like bragging about my champions league children. Though Cape Town is looking a little sickly
Put me up for adoption! I am not worthy! :P
AFL Round 15, no HGA
Buenos Aires: 1,114
Cape Town: 1,334
Mexico City: 1,352
Sao Paulo: 1,311
My kids have a lot of explaining to do
Can't believe I'm going to lose to the Macedonian Wolves! They hadn't won a game before this! ::)
l'd forgotten this was still going :o
.....am l still in it??
Any updates for this? Everyone of the final 8 have now played each other so in to the finals series right? Would be nice to know if I am still in it or not...
AFL Round 15 WXV Scores, minus HGA
Buenos Aires: 1346
Cape Town: 1226
Mexico City: 1324
Sao Paulo: 1431
No offence holz, but this has got to be the most poorly run competition going around. We are now 3 weeks behind in scores (I think, it's hard to tell since it's never updated) and no one had any idea who is still in and who isn't. Ossie gives you the scores from the WXV and you should have the scores from the euros so what's the hold up? You seem to have enough time to post about Dublin (and I assume your euro team), so why no scores for this?
I understand it's hard to run a comp, I have run the APL the last 2 (maybe 3 years), but there shouldn't really be an excuse for no updates (or even responses to questions) for so long!
Mexico City Suns 5W 2L 107.17%
Sweddish Metal 5W 2L 105.88%
Buenos Aires Armadillos 5W 2L 101.69%
Sao Paulo Pumas 4W 3L 105.38%
Russian Roulette's 4W 3L 102.19%
Cape Town Cobras 2W 5L 95.52%
Greek Titans 2W 5L 90.24%
Macedonian Wolves 1W 6L 92.03%
Mexico City Suns 1076
Sao Paulo Pumas 1058
Sweddish Metal 1063
Buenos Aires Armadillos 1021
Russian Roulette's 1026
Cape Town Cobras 959
Macedonian Wolves 924
Greek Titans 906
Here are the results after the 7 rounds where the teams battled off against each other.
Mexico City finsih with the minor premiership and the Pumas scrape in on percentage over the roulettes, despite scroing the second most points in the comp.
Worlds win the battle this year with 3 teams making it through this stage with the metal the sole Euro memeber left
Prelimary Final 1
Mexico City Suns v Sao Paulo Pumas
Prelimary Final 2
Sweddish Metal v Buenos Aires Armadillos
Prelim Final Results:
Mexico City Suns 133 lost to Sao Paulo Pumas 143
both teams put up low scores by their standards however the Pumas previaled taking out the minor premiers.
Sweddish Metal 128 lost to Buenos Aires Armadillos 134
the metal post one of their worst scores of the season and knocks himself out with the Dillos.
Its low scoring all round with the last euro member going down for an all Words battle for the title
CHAMPIONS LEAGUE GRANDFINAL
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Yeah didn't help McPharlin had one of his spuddiest games and Metal's VC Jobe scored 16...
Oh well it was my team vs. my team.
Kind of annoying, in every FF related comp (FTP) I always have my 2 teams playing off in the preliminary and not the final.
Oh my god it just had to be against the Dillos! Is that this round then?
Thanks for getting the results up holz, sorry I had a little dog before :)
Dillos have the Suns AND Pumas this round
#toughlife
lol at Buenos Aires complaining about making the Champions League final!
On behalf of the WXV competition, would like to thank Holzman for running this league. Commiserate the Europe teams for not making the final, and congratule the Pumas and Armadillos!
Next year - with 16 teams - should be awesome. Any thoughts on structure?
You must be proud of your underlings ossie ;)
Also there were 16 teams this year, so I would assume the same structure, but rather than 8 from worlds and euros, it will be 4 from each comp...
Quote from: CrowsFan on July 12, 2013, 01:23:22 PM
You must be proud of your underlings ossie ;)
Also there were 16 teams this year, so I would assume the same structure, but rather than 8 from worlds and euros, it will be 4 from each comp...
Yes, I didn't say that clearly :) With 16 teams from 4 comps it makes it even more interesting.
So Round Robin still the preference?
Hopefully Holz allows the premiers from each comp into it...
Dongs deserve a place and are top 4 material but unlucky flowerers.
Quote from: ossie85 on July 12, 2013, 01:24:20 PM
Quote from: CrowsFan on July 12, 2013, 01:23:22 PM
You must be proud of your underlings ossie ;)
Also there were 16 teams this year, so I would assume the same structure, but rather than 8 from worlds and euros, it will be 4 from each comp...
Yes, I didn't say that clearly :) With 16 teams from 4 comps it makes it even more interesting.
So Round Robin still the preference?
I was going to keep it the same as the round robin weeds out the weaker teams.
congrats to the worlds teams. Its a shame the best team in XVs the eagles didnt qualify as I think they would have been in the grandfinal.
::) Holz
Eagles are only marginally ahead of Metal in EXVs... and Metal fell short anyway.
Metal will win EXVs this season. Even with lots of our best players out like we have at the moment.
Quote from: Nails on July 12, 2013, 01:54:53 PM
::) Holz
Eagles are only marginally ahead of Metal in EXVs... and Metal fell short anyway.
Metal will win EXVs this season. Even with lots of our best players out like we have at the moment.
You average 145 a week I average 150.
plus you made it all the way to the semis and got knocked out becasue you scored 128 whereas the eagles pumped out a 153 and woudl have beat anyone this week.
Team Sheets for the Grand Final
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Shame Swan didn't go on with it. Gives Pumas a great chance especially if Ablett cuts loose.
Yeah thought I was in a lot of trouble when Swan was on 83 at HT. I'm sure it's going to be close, but I would say you still have the edge...
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Going to be an incredibly close finish (just as it should be for a final)! Minson, Zaharakis, Masten + 9 vs Cox, Dalziell + Barlow!
Any predictions on who will win from here?
Cox and Barlow I reckon have Zaha and Minson covered by at least 9 points...
Then Dalziell can go with Masten... just needs to avoid the vest.
I predict a tie. A shared Champions cup? What happens then?
Minson is the 6th highest scoring player in SC this year and Zaha averages 99 (excluding first game sub), so don't think Barlow and Cox have those two covered that easily. Masten also averages 99 and has scored hundreds his last 3 games, whereas Dalziell is very unpredictable, either scores big or goes low.
The way I see it is Minson equal to Cox, Zaha loses to Barlow, and Masten beats Dalziell. Going to be very close!
Don't know what happens if a tie. Maybe whoever scored more during the previous round robin thing?
I vote now if a tie we have a replay next week
Even more fun :)
There's a new comp starting next week. The World Cup or something, but a replay could always be fun :)
my moneys on the Pumas
Barlow 125 average over last 7 rounds. Hope he continues this form and pumps out another one of his 150+ Scores
Cox also to kick 10 goals and score 232
Dalziell to rack up 42 possessions and score 180.
I think we'd win if this happens.
Cox to kick 10 against a side who has only conceded 136 goals in 14 games, average of 9.7 per game seems unlikely :P
Clearly they haven't come up against Cox often enough.
Going by 3QT scores the scores are 1,399 for Pumas (just Masten left), and 1,324 for Dillos (Cox, Dalziell, Barlow). Going to be a tight finish!
World wins either way :)
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Pumas win! ;D ;D
Congrats Pumas. Terrible terrible week for the Dillos but a well deserved Puma victory.
Depressing week. Lost our chance at minor premiership in WXVs and lose champions league. Kill me now.
I thought when Zaha got subbed off the Pumas were stuffed!
Good win, and congrats CF!
Shame it's not WIs lol
Captain Swan wins me the Champions League.
Quote from: My Chumps on July 14, 2013, 08:09:14 PM
I thought when Zaha got subbed off the Pumas were stuffed!
Good win, and congrats CF!
I was at work today so didn't see that until I got home. Did not like it haha! Pretty poor score to win the champs league with, but going through a rough patch at the moment. Hopefully will be sorted by finals :)
Congrats Sao Paulo!
Congrats pumas, a very deserving winner have been consistently one of the best performers every week.
Apologise for the quality of administration in the comp, but I have moved into my new house, finished all my sudies and have my interent all set up now.
Bring on the world Cup.
Will be good next year with the mighy eagles a certainty to be in the comp
Congrats CF
Congrats CF and the Pumas!
Can't wait to see my Lambs here next year! >:D
Thanks guys. It's nice to see my team not choke in something haha! :D
Hopefully I will be back next year defending the cup :)
flowering pumas.
Haha nails you really do hate us don't you :P
Great stuff CF, well done
Quote from: CrowsFan on July 15, 2013, 11:35:31 AM
Haha nails you really do hate us don't you :P
Nails hates everyone. :P
Good job by the Pumas. Going to be fun for the Folders when we get to play teams from other competitions next season!
Is there any word yet on how to qualify for the league? Will it be the top 4 from the ladder, 4 highest scoring teams or those that make it to the Prelim Final?
Just noticed it says Mexico City in the grannie, not the Pumas on the front
How rude!
Hi again Holz :)
So, we have our final four in all comps now.
For Worlds, on a ladder basis, it is Mexico City, Buenos Aires, Moscow and Sao Paulo.
On a finals basis, it is Mexico City, Buenos Aires, Sao Paulo and Berlin.
I'm still of the belief it should be based on finals outcomes. Was wondering if you could leave it to each comp's Admin to decide which teams make the Champions league?
It either needs to be based on points scored of finals. That way, the Bison make it.
We had the 4th most points but finished 5th on the ladder. Made it to the prelims though. I think it'd be unfair for us to miss out because we had unfortunate match ups.
Obviously, I'm going to have bias towards my team though.
The intention was to follow the epl system and to create some incentive to make the top 4.
I'm alright with it being the top 4 scoring teams in the hone and away. I'm still against the final series counting. But if its really unpopular I'm moveable
Quote from: Holzman on August 19, 2013, 01:04:33 PM
The intention was to follow the epl system and to create some incentive to make the top 4.
The EPL doesn't have finals, so the Champion always makes the Champions league.
But I don't think you can call it a Champions league if it doesn't guarantee the Champions...
How about this as a compromise.... The Premier and the top point scorer are guaranteed to make the Champions league, and the other 2 (or 3) spots done by ladder positions before finals?
Like the idea however how would you decide on seedings.
In British this year
Top 4 at end of home and away : Winchester Werewolves, Nottingham Hoods, Swansea Breakers, Bradford Badgers
Semi Final Teams:
Winchester Werewolves, Swansea Breakers, Birmingham Bombers, Hebden Bridge Hedgehogs. The Hegehogs finished 8th and would surprise to see them go through to finals. So you could have the situation where the hedgehogs finish second and yet do not make champions league. Just throwing that possibility out as well.
Personally prefer the Top 4 from each comp (after finals) myself as the Top scoring creates some anomolies. Eg in British where we had a couple of team upheavals some teams played really low teams at their lowest point but other teams had to play them after a change of coaches where the points spread was not as great.
What I don't want is done team that sneaks into the finals than has a few good weeks and wins.
Are you ok with the premier and the next 3 highest point scoring teams making the champions league.
Quote from: Holzman on August 19, 2013, 01:35:13 PM
What I don't want is done team that sneaks into the finals than has a few good weeks and wins.
Why is that Holz? (That could have almost been Dublin this year and wouldn't have had a problem with that! Could still be Berlin) I think its great when the underdogs wins! Sport would be boring if the statistically best team always won. Given we had two teams from Worlds this year - Wellington and Beijing - that were clearly weren't up to scratch because of trading in the off season, there's no guarantee of quality for the next year anyway.
Quote from: Holzman on August 19, 2013, 01:35:13 PM
Are you ok with the premier and the next 3 highest point scoring teams making the champions league.
I share Ringo's concerns - point scoring isn't perfect, especially if you stop counting before finals (a team could be the best scoring team all year, but go crazy bad in the finals, and theoretically a team that misses the finals could have scored monstrously in the last 4 weeks if they qualified). But what I think isn't negotiable is that premiers need to be in next year.
Dongs deserve to be in the champs league.
We were tied for premiership favourtism coming into the season but due to bullshower injuries finished 5-8th placing.
However now with a more complete team we'll be vying for a spot in the Grand Final this weekend.
I would be more happy with the premier and the next 3 highest placed teams on the end of season ladder.
Just say in British this year if the Werewolves are defeated in the final (should they make it) if we are to use your system then the Werewolves would not make the Champions League which I do not think is right for the Minor Premiers. (For information Werewolves finished 5th on total points so you see the dilema but won the Minor premiership),
Injuries at wrong time also play a part in total scoring as well.
Not easy to solve Holz but maybe Minor Premiers. Premiers, Runner up in Premiership and next highest placed teams on the ladder,
I think premier and next 3 highest scoring teams seems fairest. Never going to get it perfect, but this way it rewards the teams who were best over the course of the whole season.
Quote from: BB67th on August 19, 2013, 04:34:41 PM
I think premier and next 3 highest scoring teams seems fairest. Never going to get it perfect, but this way it rewards the teams who were best over the course of the whole season.
What if one of those high scoring teams didn't actually make the finals?
Actually, that would have happened in Worlds
In 2012, Seoul was the 4th highest scoring team and missed the finals. Under this rule, they would have made the Champions League.
Quote from: ossie85 on August 19, 2013, 04:50:17 PM
Quote from: BB67th on August 19, 2013, 04:34:41 PM
I think premier and next 3 highest scoring teams seems fairest. Never going to get it perfect, but this way it rewards the teams who were best over the course of the whole season.
What if one of those high scoring teams didn't actually make the finals?
Hmmm well I just assumed the deviation between high scoring teams and their ladder positions wouldn't be as large. Does make it hard to decide who gets in and who doesn't....
BB using the British for example this year and as a a hypothetical if the Bombers were to beat the werewolves this year and using the Highest scoring the Werewolves would miss out beacuse they were only the 5th highest scoring team despite being the minor premiers
British XV Table
1. Werewolves
2. Hoods.
3. Breakers
4. Badgers
4th Highest Scoring
1. Badgers
2. Breakers.
3. Bombers (6th on the ladder)
4. Hoods
Well let's just all agree that I have qualified for next season no matter what ;)
Quote from: CrowsFan on August 19, 2013, 05:48:48 PM
Well let's just all agree that I have qualified for next season no matter what ;)
I'm with you CF! Haha.
didn't notice this conversation lol seems to have died down but
surely the highest scoring teams for the home and away season is the best and fairest way to measure teams in each comp with a larger sample then just 4 games or less in the finals
you can get lucky in the finals even with a weaker team
teams should be tested over the whole season to see if they deserve to be in this league not just a few games
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on August 25, 2013, 04:52:48 AM
didn't notice this conversation lol seems to have died down but
surely the highest scoring teams for the home and away season is the best and fairest way to measure teams in each comp with a larger sample then just 4 games or less in the finals
you can get lucky in the finals even with a weaker team
teams should be tested over the whole season to see if they deserve to be in this league not just a few games
Which means teams that don't make the finals can make the champions league.
I say, since the three methods all legitimate arguments:
The Premier
Minor Premier
Top Points Scorer
And the remaining spot or spots to be chosen by league Admin using their own criteria
Quote from: ossie85 on August 25, 2013, 05:33:25 AM
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on August 25, 2013, 04:52:48 AM
didn't notice this conversation lol seems to have died down but
surely the highest scoring teams for the home and away season is the best and fairest way to measure teams in each comp with a larger sample then just 4 games or less in the finals
you can get lucky in the finals even with a weaker team
teams should be tested over the whole season to see if they deserve to be in this league not just a few games
Which means teams that don't make the finals can make the champions league.
I say, since the three methods all legitimate arguments:
The Premier
Minor Premier
Top Points Scorer
And the remaining spot or spots to be chosen by league Admin using their own criteria
What if one team wins all 3 of them?
Yep, said spot or spots :)
The Lambs have top points & minor premier ready tied up in AXV! >:D
when do we know who and how the temas for next seasons champions league are decided i forgot what we decided ? :)
Armadillos would have scored 171 and Metal would have scored 190 if champs was on this week
#wishowerwas
Haha love the hashtag :P
A time when the filter got it wrong!
Quote from: CrowsFan on September 02, 2013, 08:15:46 AM
Haha love the hashtag :P
A time when the filter got it wrong!
lol! just noticed that :)
For Worlds, I think we have a clear 3:
Sao Paulo (Premier, reigning Champions trophy winner), Mexico City (Minor Premier, reigning World Cup winner) and Buenos Aires (won nothing, but scored really well!).
.... it's the 4th team I wonder a bit about. Would probably say Moscow just over Berlin after a more consistent year.
I'm just hoping ours isn't based on final ladder position, or my Bison will be devastated.
Finished 4th on points (pre-finals) but only 5th on the ladder. Made the grand final anyway with a solid finals series but were only runners up (because Nails was amazing and we have a million outs... got smashed!)
To be fair we had a few outs that would've been best 15
Chris Newman, Brock McLean, Bradd Dalziell
Adam Treloar would've got a place considering outs but he was also an out
That's the beauty of the Metal, have 4 outs? Doesn't matter still all gun.
Quote from: Nails on September 02, 2013, 12:07:24 PM
To be fair we had a few outs that would've been best 15
Chris Newman, Brock McLean, Bradd Dalziell
Adam Treloar would've got a place considering outs but he was also an out
That's the beauty of the Metal, have 4 outs? Doesn't matter still all gun.
It helps when St. Kilda plays against Freo's seconds... haha
But nah, solid team.
next years entrants will be the premiers and the 3 best ladder postions after the home and away season.
Worlds:
Sao Paulo
Mexico City
Buenos Aires
Moscow
Euro:
Serbia
Sweden
Russia
Macedonia
British:
Winchester
Nottingham
Swansea
Bradford
Asia:
Mongolia
Taiwan
Bangladesh
Manila
Sweden will be very strong
Mongoliaaaaaaaaaa
Winchester + Ablett + Cox ..... outside chance...
Quote from: Holzman on September 20, 2013, 10:42:07 AM
next years entrants will be the premiers and the 3 best ladder postions after the home and away season.
Euro:
Serbia
Sweden
Russia
Macedonia
What a joke... Finished 4th on points but finished 5th due to bad fortune. Made the grand final as evidence of being a top 4 team but couldn't win it. So, despite being a clear top 4 team from our competition, without a doubt, I don't make the champions league...
Quote from: LaHug on September 20, 2013, 06:12:49 PM
What a joke... Finished 4th on points but finished 5th due to bad fortune. Made the grand final as evidence of being a top 4 team but couldn't win it. So, despite being a clear top 4 team from our competition, without a doubt, I don't make the champions league...
Don't worry LH, I think Cairo should be there too. :P Alas, that's not the case. We'll show 'em in 2014 though. ;D
Quote from: LaHug on September 20, 2013, 06:12:49 PM
Quote from: Holzman on September 20, 2013, 10:42:07 AM
next years entrants will be the premiers and the 3 best ladder postions after the home and away season.
Euro:
Serbia
Sweden
Russia
Macedonia
What a joke... Finished 4th on points but finished 5th due to bad fortune. Made the grand final as evidence of being a top 4 team but couldn't win it. So, despite being a clear top 4 team from our competition, without a doubt, I don't make the champions league...
Defending champions and WXV Premiers the Sao Paulo Pumas are threatening to drop out of the competition unless the Bison are rightfully awarded a spot in the League! :o
Quote from: CrowsFan on September 20, 2013, 07:00:40 PM
Quote from: LaHug on September 20, 2013, 06:12:49 PM
Quote from: Holzman on September 20, 2013, 10:42:07 AM
next years entrants will be the premiers and the 3 best ladder postions after the home and away season.
Euro:
Serbia
Sweden
Russia
Macedonia
What a joke... Finished 4th on points but finished 5th due to bad fortune. Made the grand final as evidence of being a top 4 team but couldn't win it. So, despite being a clear top 4 team from our competition, without a doubt, I don't make the champions league...
Defending champions and WXV Premiers the Sao Paulo Pumas are threatening to drop out of the competition unless the Bison are rightfully awarded a spot in the League! :o
We'll take your place if you do. ;)
no matter how it is worked out a couple of teams per comp will be upset...
could be top 4 average scorers per round then you could have the 2 in the grand final not make it.
could be a mix of premier, minor premier, points
could be any mix or any method
same result - people will have valid reason to be upset,
but what can you do- have to pick a method and run with it.
???
Quote from: Holzman on September 20, 2013, 10:42:07 AM
next years entrants will be the premiers and the 3 best ladder postions after the home and away season.
Worlds:
Sao Paulo
Mexico City
Buenos Aires
Moscow
Huh, I would have thought it would be the 4 after finals, and hand on heart, I don't say that because I managed to get there. :P
But still, Moscow was the better team this year compared to Berlin. Would make sense I guess.
Honestly, its the Champions league. Only 4 teams are champions, the rest are lucky no matter how you count it :P
It is difficult to come up with a formula to take into consideration the various so called anomalies but I think that what has been decided is the fairest for all as it rewards the premier and the next 3 highest on the table as they have been consistent for the year and should be rewarded.
From a British perspective if we were to be based on average points for the year the British Competitors would have been in order:
Winchester (Premiers)
Bradford
Swansea
Birmingham
So the only change is order which would effect seedings and Birmingham replacing Nottingham. Nottingham and Birmingham illustrate the difficulty in coming up with a right formula -Nottingham finished 2nd on the table but 5th on average points whereas Birmingham finished 3rd on average points but 6th on the ladder.
So as Colli says come up with the formula and stick to it and some teams will be disappointed,
Get around Sweden and Buenos Aires! 8)
Will be seeing the Owls in a couple years too I hope.
The best 4 teams should be playing the Champions league. The best way to determine that? The last four teams left. If you finish top four then you theoretically make the final 4, not doing so is unfortunate for them. If a team comes from 8th and makes the GF, are they not the 2nd best team this season in that comp? They shouldn't be missing out.
Oh, and the reigning Champs league winners should automatically qualify for next season, regardless where they finish in their league. (Not sure if this already happens)
my two cents. :)
Quote from: PowerBug on September 21, 2013, 06:51:48 PM
The best 4 teams should be playing the Champions league. The best way to determine that? The last four teams left. If you finish top four then you theoretically make the final 4, not doing so is unfortunate for them. If a team comes from 8th and makes the GF, are they not the 2nd best team this season in that comp? They shouldn't be missing out.
Oh, and the reigning Champs league winners should automatically qualify for next season, regardless where they finish in their league. (Not sure if this already happens)
my two cents. :)
Strongly disagree, fantasy football is unpredictable and I vale the long home and away season compared to just a few games towards the end of the season. Belarus v Serbia is the example here.
Belarus made the grand final Serbia didn't yet I was undefeated in the home and away and easily scored the most points. The champions league isn't just a few weeks you need to perform for a long time so the home and away is the best indicator.
Both grand finalists should be guaranteed champions league entry at the very least then. The other two spots could go to ladder position? I'm not a fan of it going to total points scored since H&A season is based on H2H matches, not just total points.
yeah i agree with holz, more so becasue of the ridiculous AFL resting of players right in the middle of our fantasy finals, can really skew the results.
sure that means you get tested on your depth and its just bad luck if you get a few players out and go down in a final,
but seriously the best teams of the season have to be more accurately represented by the top 4?
the premier deserves a spot regardless, as Os says after all they are hte only real champion.
as for the reigning champions league winner, can't see how that is relevant given it was a year ago and we are a season past that result when working out the next seasons champions league qualifiers....
its the same as saying the people who qualified last season should automatically qualify the next season...
@ PB does seem harsh the GF loser doesnt make it but got to draw the line somewhere? idk
I'm just going off the UEFA champs league where the reigning champ automatically qualifies.
Line does need to be drawn somewhere yeah. It'll be impossible to please everyone.
Agree it is hard to decide but we need to draw the line.
in British Hedgehogs made the Grandfinal from 8th position and whilst they may be deserving of the spot should it be at the expense of a top 4 side who had the misfortune of injuries and restings effecting them in their final matches as one offs. Ladder position is fairest I think as it rewards consistent teams.
Quote from: PowerBug on September 21, 2013, 07:30:37 PM
I'm just going off the UEFA champs league where the reigning champ automatically qualifies.
Line does need to be drawn somewhere yeah. It'll be impossible to please everyone.
im leaving this one to holz :)
wouldnt have an issue with last years champs winner qualifying except for who an out of which comp misses out in his place (if he is not in the general criteria to qualify the following season) ?
does my head in ..... HOLZ, just grateful there will be one and someone to run it all to be honest.
Quote from: PowerBug on September 21, 2013, 07:30:37 PM
I'm just going off the UEFA champs league where the reigning champ automatically qualifies.
Line does need to be drawn somewhere yeah. It'll be impossible to please everyone.
I can't imagine a team that can win the champions league to ever not to qualify.
Quote from: Holzman on September 21, 2013, 07:57:04 PM
Quote from: PowerBug on September 21, 2013, 07:30:37 PM
I'm just going off the UEFA champs league where the reigning champ automatically qualifies.
Line does need to be drawn somewhere yeah. It'll be impossible to please everyone.
I can't imagine a team that can win the champions league to ever not to qualify.
I'm guessing you're saying in our Champions League, because it happened in Europe only two years ago with Chelsea.
Quote from: PowerBug on September 21, 2013, 08:33:13 PM
Quote from: Holzman on September 21, 2013, 07:57:04 PM
Quote from: PowerBug on September 21, 2013, 07:30:37 PM
I'm just going off the UEFA champs league where the reigning champ automatically qualifies.
Line does need to be drawn somewhere yeah. It'll be impossible to please everyone.
I can't imagine a team that can win the champions league to ever not to qualify.
I'm guessing you're saying in our Champions League, because it happened in Europe only two years ago with Chelsea.
Yeah, when Chelsea won in 2012 they finished 6th in the Premier League. Also when Liverpool won in 2005 they finished 5th in the premier league.
Quote from: CrowsFan on September 21, 2013, 08:41:16 PM
Quote from: PowerBug on September 21, 2013, 08:33:13 PM
Quote from: Holzman on September 21, 2013, 07:57:04 PM
Quote from: PowerBug on September 21, 2013, 07:30:37 PM
I'm just going off the UEFA champs league where the reigning champ automatically qualifies.
Line does need to be drawn somewhere yeah. It'll be impossible to please everyone.
I can't imagine a team that can win the champions league to ever not to qualify.
I'm guessing you're saying in our Champions League, because it happened in Europe only two years ago with Chelsea.
Yeah, when Chelsea won in 2012 they finished 6th in the Premier League. Also when Liverpool won in 2005 they finished 5th in the premier league.
Pumas won the Champions league, and only made the WXV top 4 on percentage....
Quote from: ossie85 on September 22, 2013, 07:45:01 AM
Pumas won the Champions league, and only made the WXV top 4 on percentage....
>:(
Quote from: Colliwobblers on September 21, 2013, 07:42:56 PM
wouldnt have an issue with last years champs winner qualifying except for who an out of which comp misses out in his place (if he is not in the general criteria to qualify the following season) ?
Whichever comp he comes from. So if it's Worlds, then the 4th ranked (however that is decided) Worlds club will miss out in place of the defending champs. I think it's right that you get a chance to defend your title.
I'm fairly sure that if you win the Champions League you are going to qualify anyway. It isn't like in the EPL where you play separate matches for Champions League and Regular League matches.
If you are scoring big enough each week to win the Champions League, you have probably scored well enough to make the top 4.
Why not like this:
Premiers from each comp automatically qualify. Then the other three teams from that comp qualify based on ladder position.
Unless a team wins the CL and for some reason is not among these qualifying teams. They then qualify in place of the lowest ranked team from their association based on the above (premiers > other teams).
Quote from: Memphistopheles on October 01, 2013, 07:21:13 PM
Why not like this:
Premiers from each comp automatically qualify. Then the other three teams from that comp qualify based on ladder position.
Unless a team wins the CL and for some reason is not among these qualifying teams. They then qualify in place of the lowest ranked team from their association based on the above (premiers > other teams).
that's how I would do it...
Quote from: Ziplock on October 01, 2013, 07:23:34 PM
Quote from: Memphistopheles on October 01, 2013, 07:21:13 PM
Why not like this:
Premiers from each comp automatically qualify. Then the other three teams from that comp qualify based on ladder position.
Unless a team wins the CL and for some reason is not among these qualifying teams. They then qualify in place of the lowest ranked team from their association based on the above (premiers > other teams).
that's how I would do it...
thats what Zolz said, just added in the previous winner in the method you guys stated. I think that makes sense too....
Quote from: Colliwobblers on October 01, 2013, 07:33:23 PM
Quote from: Ziplock on October 01, 2013, 07:23:34 PM
Quote from: Memphistopheles on October 01, 2013, 07:21:13 PM
Why not like this:
Premiers from each comp automatically qualify. Then the other three teams from that comp qualify based on ladder position.
Unless a team wins the CL and for some reason is not among these qualifying teams. They then qualify in place of the lowest ranked team from their association based on the above (premiers > other teams).
that's how I would do it...
thats what Zolz said, just added in the previous winner in the method you guys stated. I think that makes sense too....
Just lookig after Colli for when Werewolves wins the World Cup but drop out of the Top 4 in the British ;D ;D
Zolz = Holz
and Ringo - The Werewolves are never dropping out of the top 4 ;)
Hi Holz, my proposed fixture for 2014 Champions League and World Cup
We have 16 teams - 4 teams in each competition.
Rounds 1 to 11 (Each team plays every other team. Teams from the same competition have the games they play against each other in there competition as counting towards the Champions league. For example, Sao Paulo/Mexico City/Buenos Aires and Moscow will play each other in Worlds anyway. Each competition will need to adjust there fixtures so that all Champions league competitors play each other by round 11)
Rounds 12 to 15 (Finals)
Rounds 16 to 21 World Cup
Thoughts?
It's a good idea Os, but 3 of the 4 competitions already have their draw made. It would be a bit hard to go back and change all that now.
I'm not a fan sorry ossie. I like the way it was run this year as it makes it quite similar to the UEFA champions league. So breaking them in to 4 groups of 4 where you then play each team home and away. The top 2 then qualify and that's when you then play each team :)
Quote from: CrowsFan on January 06, 2014, 09:58:27 AM
I'm not a fan sorry ossie. I like the way it was run this year as it makes it quite similar to the UEFA champions league. So breaking them in to 4 groups of 4 where you then play each team home and away. The top 2 then qualify and that's when you then play each team :)
No probs :)
Just to throw a spanner in works still waiting to hear whether Sportal will continue their existing scoring system as we may have to change in British.
Agree with CF need to continue how we did it this year with a possible revision of weightings for each comp to be done again.
Quote from: Ringo on January 06, 2014, 11:43:12 AM
Just to throw a spanner in works still waiting to hear whether Sportal will continue their existing scoring system as we may have to change in British.
Agree with CF need to continue how we did it this year with a possible revision of weightings for each comp to be done again.
that would be a tradgedy after drafting and recruiting and trading for the format. If we change I think it has to be SC.
Probably looking to keep it constant as I like the UEFA league vibe as cf said.
Open to ideas on the scaling though was thinking something like a rolling scale.
Average world points + round world points/2 ?
So when it's a big dt,sb etc.. round it gets taken into account
So, has anymore been decided on this in relation to final rules and such?
I don't really understand the idea of a rolling scale. I think just take the scale now at the start of the season and apply that throughout the season. Again, like with with teams qualify, you will never get a completely fair way to have things, someone will always be advantaged. This, however, is the easiest way that people understand and can apply themselves.
I don't really like it when we are involving equations and average points from competitions and whatnot, keep it simple I say.
Quote from: BB67th on February 17, 2014, 05:22:14 PM
So, has anymore been decided on this in relation to final rules and such?
I don't really understand the idea of a rolling scale. I think just take the scale now at the start of the season and apply that throughout the season. Again, like with with teams qualify, you will never get a completely fair way to have things, someone will always be advantaged. This, however, is the easiest way that people understand and can apply themselves.
I don't really like it when we are involving equations and average points from competitions and whatnot, keep it simple I say.
New scoring in bxv makes it difficult
Quote from: ossie85 on February 17, 2014, 05:58:11 PM
Quote from: BB67th on February 17, 2014, 05:22:14 PM
So, has anymore been decided on this in relation to final rules and such?
I don't really understand the idea of a rolling scale. I think just take the scale now at the start of the season and apply that throughout the season. Again, like with with teams qualify, you will never get a completely fair way to have things, someone will always be advantaged. This, however, is the easiest way that people understand and can apply themselves.
I don't really like it when we are involving equations and average points from competitions and whatnot, keep it simple I say.
New scoring in bxv makes it difficult
Not anymore :P
So when is this starting this year? Round 2 like last year? Will the groups be made soon? :)
Quote from: Holzman on September 20, 2013, 10:42:07 AM
next years entrants will be the premiers and the 3 best ladder postions after the home and away season.
Worlds:
Sao Paulo
Mexico City
Buenos Aires
Moscow
Euro:
Serbia
Sweden
Russia
Macedonia
British:
Winchester
Nottingham
Swansea
Bradford
Asia:
Mongolia
Taiwan
Bangladesh
Manila
^ assuming the above is done by Premier and ladder positions, reckon the groups should be:
A: Sao Paulo, Sweden, Swansea, Manila
B: Mexico City, Russia, Bradford, Mongolia
C: Buenos Aires, Macedonia, Winchester, Taiwan
D: Moscow, Serbia, Nottingham, Bangladesh
For AXV it was:
Premiers: Bangladesh Bears
Ladder:
1. Mongolian Lambs
2. Taiwan Dolphins
3. Bangladesh Bears
4. Manila Folders
So the rankings would be Bangladesh, Lambs, Taiwan, Manila if I am correct? :)
yeah round 2, so will get the groups up and ready. All comps are running round 2 except the Euro i think so we will be posting teams here (just euro).
Ossie is right so Metal won the euro so the seedings for the euro are.
Sweden
Serbia
Russia
Macedonia
as its Worlds 1 Euro 2 British 3 Asia 4.
the first two from group 1 will be
Sao Paulo and Serbia
Holz, just a prod.
I'm too busy, but I imagine a bunch of other people would be happy to organise this if you don't have the time. Just let people know if so. Last season was a bit haphazard, and I think its best if people know who they are playing in advance rather than adhoc (otherwise its just numbers).
Oz