Just posting an initial team with structure. Left a lot of cash to play with when real prices announced in a few weeks time.
TEAM NAME: Ringos Rocky Road
DEF: A. Rance, D. Rampe, M. Hibberd, J. Carlisle, S. Edwards, J. Scrimshaw (I. Cumming, L. Keeffe)
MID: P. Dangerfield, R. Sloane, N. Fyfe, D. Heppell, D. Beams, T. Mzungu, W. Brodie, S. Petrevski-Seton (W. Hoskin-Elliott, H. Balic, N. Freeman)
RUC: S. Martin, P. Ryder (J. Witts)
FWD: D. Martin, D. Zorko, T. Lynch, J. Roughead, S. Crameri, A. Monfries (T. Taranto, J. Daicos)
CASH LEFT: $411,900
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Thanks Ringo, you are definitely one of natures gentlemen for not leaving me to hang out and dry by myself here.
And without a doubt, the second best team I have sen up to date. Best of luck next season, cheers from " pete the oldfart "
:) ;)
No problems Pete - Just wanted to get a structure up happy with.
Expect a lot action when SC Picker available next week.
Quote from: Ringo on November 29, 2016, 02:00:27 PM
Just posting an initial team with structure. Left a lot of cash to play with when real prices announced in a few weeks time.
TEAM NAME: Ringos Rocky Road
DEF: A. Rance, D. Rampe, M. Hibberd, J. Carlisle, S. Edwards, J. Scrimshaw (I. Cumming, L. Keeffe)
MID: P. Dangerfield, R. Sloane, N. Fyfe, D. Heppell, D. Beams, T. Mzungu, W. Brodie, S. Petrevski-Seton (W. Hoskin-Elliott, H. Balic, N. Freeman)
RUC: S. Martin, P. Ryder (J. Witts)
FWD: D. Martin, D. Zorko, T. Lynch, J. Roughead, S. Crameri, A. Monfries (T. Taranto, J. Daicos)
CASH LEFT: $411,900
Ryder is good value, S Martin not worth it if Archie Smith is playing alongside him. Beams will be up with Danger in terms of % in teams. Like your mid rookie bench as well.
Any news on Roughie actually playing next year?
I see Zac Merret getting M/F and being good value again. Agree with you on poor value in Def Prems wiht Doch, Simpson Shaw all being expensive.
Looking forward to Monday to see how it all shapes up.
Think we will be going with single ruck this year with Andrews and others giving relief for Stef.
Quote from: Ringo on December 01, 2016, 06:27:32 PM
Think we will be going with single ruck this year with Andrews and others giving relief for Stef.
Will bring Stef Martin back into contention if Fagan goes that way.
I really want the stefmeister but can't go past Maxy or Goldy tbh
Also got badly burnt by him last year so I'm sill hurting
Solid standard structure.
Until we know the pricing structure of the suspended players returning we really don't know what a good structure is do we?
First Attempt with release of SC Picker. $66k left to adjust rookies etc.
(https://i.gyazo.com/4bef82014edc04e9bb80c03a03d23957.png)
Stmadica is the obvious choice for loopholes given the number of late games Freo have. Looked at Cameron but Sydney have quite a few early games. Hunter from Adelaide another option with R/F.
Marc Murphy may become a rookie once I know which rookies may start to boost defence.
Do you think Martin and Jacobs can get close to matching Gawn and Goldy? If they can this is going to help massively saving a lot of coin! What can you tell me about Barrett from Brisbane? Heard big wraps on him but haven't seen him in anyone's side yet
Nice looking team Ringo. Impressive 15 keepers if they can all stay on the park.
Eddy, L Ryan, Myers and Berry will be popular rooks at this stage of the season as well.
Quote from: quinny88 on December 06, 2016, 05:25:41 AM
Do you think Martin and Jacobs can get close to matching Gawn and Goldy? If they can this is going to help massively saving a lot of coin! What can you tell me about Barrett from Brisbane? Heard big wraps on him but haven't seen him in anyone's side yet
Must have looked at side before I put up correct one :D :D (Note same as yours now) - Was playing around a little and put wrong one up.
Barrett is picked up as a rookie though and will have to await elevation. He was drafted as a zone selection by GWS in 2013 and we picked him up with our first rookie pick.
He starred for GWS in the NEAFL and is a speedy midfielder. Will be a definite down grade target when upgraded.
Quote from: Ringo on December 06, 2016, 09:49:23 AM
Quote from: quinny88 on December 06, 2016, 05:25:41 AM
Do you think Martin and Jacobs can get close to matching Gawn and Goldy? If they can this is going to help massively saving a lot of coin! What can you tell me about Barrett from Brisbane? Heard big wraps on him but haven't seen him in anyone's side yet
Must have looked at side before I put up correct one :D :D (Note same as yours now) - Was playing around a little and put wrong one up.
Barrett is picked up as a rookie though and will have to await elevation. He was drafted as a zone selection by GWS in 2013 and we picked him up with our first rookie pick.
He starred for GWS in the NEAFL and is a speedy midfielder. Will be a definite down grade target when upgraded.
Oh haha I see now. Definitely prefer that ruck combo ;)
Is there any chance for Barrett to be upgraded before the season starts?
Quote from: quinny88 on December 06, 2016, 04:10:49 PM
Quote from: Ringo on December 06, 2016, 09:49:23 AM
Quote from: quinny88 on December 06, 2016, 05:25:41 AM
Do you think Martin and Jacobs can get close to matching Gawn and Goldy? If they can this is going to help massively saving a lot of coin! What can you tell me about Barrett from Brisbane? Heard big wraps on him but haven't seen him in anyone's side yet
Must have looked at side before I put up correct one :D :D (Note same as yours now) - Was playing around a little and put wrong one up.
Barrett is picked up as a rookie though and will have to await elevation. He was drafted as a zone selection by GWS in 2013 and we picked him up with our first rookie pick.
He starred for GWS in the NEAFL and is a speedy midfielder. Will be a definite down grade target when upgraded.
Oh haha I see now. Definitely prefer that ruck combo ;)
Is there any chance for Barrett to be upgraded before the season starts?
There is a chance we promote a rookie ro replace Jaden McGrath who retired late. We only drafted 6 players and with McGraths retirement that only gives 39 on Senior List.
would certainly turn Macrae into Ainsworth and then turn Murphy into say Treloar and Sandi into Gawn
its pretty big injury punts and even if they pay off cant see them being uber premos.
Gawn Treloar Rookie v Murphy Sandi Macrae basically.
115 115 65 (bowes) v 100 100 95
thats a even game but more cash generation to the premo squad as you wont upgrade any of Murphy Macrae Sandi and also less injury prone to the premo squad so downside is lower.
Still basically a structure Holz and will be 1001 permutations prior to Rd 1.
Made some adjustments with a slightly more risk and posting her to compare with initial team. Pending any injuries etc will sit on these 2 teams till New Year. (Heard that before somewhere). Rookies place holders untill we see what rookies will likely start Rd 1.
(https://i.gyazo.com/d571b5b15e2386266810b9bb181f27aa.png)
Changes made
Downgraded Marc Murphy to Swallow. Risk here but Swallow at price to hard to ignore.
Added Hibberd to Defence (think Hibberd can return to 90+ especially at Demons)
Upgraded Sloane to Hanners. (Hanners still may become JPK just need to decide which one will step up more with Mitchells departure.)
Downgraded Lynch to Roughie.
If Swallow stays on park and reverts to 2014 scoring will have 16 potential keepers which may help trading and injuries. Hoping the likes of Swallow, Beams and Sandi can stay Healthy for first 7/8 rounds so they will make some nice coin and easy upgrades if the get injured.
Team Structure
(https://i.gyazo.com/1e2ea71b0bd98ac5c45f384a7570c4df.png)
Bye Structure
(https://i.gyazo.com/ff2465a61d4c9d7e5b0ee774679bbb63.png)
May have to look at Rd 13 when looking at final teams
Thanks to the Higginator spreadsheets have updated selected team.
http://www.jockreynolds.com.au/2016/12/11/the-higginator-v-17/
Of the 7 mid price players expecting to retain Beams, Ryder, Murphy, Roughead, Sandilands with Hibberd? Swallow if he stays on the park could join them as well. So basically if all 7 mid pricers fire and stay on the park I have 16 keepers. However know this is the desired but in reality will not happen so am relying on a minimum of four staying. Giving me 9 upgrades required with should cost 18 - 20 trades allowing 10 trades for injuries and corrections. That is the plan anyway.
Pfft, who has the time to look at the byes already :p
Looks pretty good though Ringo haha. I can't see myself starting any of the Swans mids as I never know which one is gonna burst out of the blocks from round 1, but Hanners had a great year so should be fine there aha
Only posted it because it comes up in the spreadsheet. Use Jocks spreadsheet each year for bye purposes.
Still no guarantee to start Hanners though he could become one of Neale, Sloane or Treloar. The only certainty is this will not be round 1 team.
Solid looking team Ringo
Yep, I'd be sitting on that til the new year now - no point wasting anymore time for now - just wait til NAB and go from there
Good looking Team Ringo. Well balanced in rooks, prems and returning injury low ballers.
Only thing missing is DPP between fwds and mids.
Quote from: crowls on December 23, 2016, 11:27:35 AM
Good looking Team Ringo. Well balanced in rooks, prems and returning injury low ballers.
Only thing missing is DPP between fwds and mids.
Will be correcting that when I see what rookies are available Rd 1. Although DPP not really a necessity in early Rds.
:)
Nice team as always Ringo, will be watching very carefully to see whether you start Beams in Rd.1. Without a doubt a magnificent footballer but I always get a little nervous about players being " managed for the rest of their careers. I hope he makes it, I love to see the best players out on the park, not in the pavilions. Will be very interesting to see whether S Selwood is played as an attacking mid during the NAB, he may be another possible money builder. Best of luck mate. ;)
Quote from: Sabretooth Tigers on December 26, 2016, 03:15:07 AM
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Nice team as always Ringo, will be watching very carefully to see whether you start Beams in Rd.1. Without a doubt a magnificent footballer but I always get a little nervous about players being " managed for the rest of their careers. I hope he makes it, I love to see the best players out on the park, not in the pavilions. Will be very interesting to see whether S Selwood is played as an attacking mid during the NAB, he may be another possible money builder. Best of luck mate. ;)
ST, no alternative universe where I would see myself giving S Selwood a start mate. so many better SC scoring options. :P
Played around a bit and now sitting on this team till NAB Cup and 1st Rd,
(https://i.gyazo.com/619d5c8c8a359299a50e3815bdcd890f.png)
Mostly Guns and Rookies but 4 midpricers who if they regain from following injury all capable of 95plus with exception of Ryder who is back up Ruck to Goldy and Sandi.
So 10 super premos + 4 possible premos. Gone strong in mids but with the fwd and defensive rookies/returning players available think ok to be a little weak on these lines,
Hanners could become Rocky if he shows reasonable form and attitude during NAB cup.
Murphy started last season strongly before injury, we know what Beams can do and Sandi although older can still put out the big score. Risks I am willing to take.
Have used some top priced rooks as well to allow for movement and adjustment.
$200k is too much for the bench, Schar out, McGrath back, rookie mid in.
How many games are you expecting Sandi to play?? I dont see him going to GAbba or one of the sydney games atleast
Thanks Capper - Will adjust rookies for RD 1 Placeholders at the moment and using some pricier ones so have options when we know which rookies are playing. Don't want to be caught with having to downgrade prems to accommodate playing rooks. McGrath and Taranto atm are my DPP links as well.
With Sandi prior to injury last season he played 21games in both 2013 and 2014 so if he stays fit expecting quite a few games but as you say he may miss Brisbane and Sydney.
Freo doesnt have a bad draw but 2 trips to Sydney, one to Brisbane he may miss.
If Sandi plays he will average top 5 ruck and much better than Belly who is the same price. Wasn't Sandi injured at training before xmas??
:-\
I'm concerned about how Sandilands may be managed next season. Most that have concerns are worried about interstate games in which he may be rested or the prospect of the 34 year old incurring injuries. I'm concerned about his TOG playing in the ruck. Don't know if Freo have someone on the up that they want to bring along quickly. But if they have Sandi's times may be reduced. You usually have more than 10 keepers in your sides Ringo. Possibly 11 if Beamer comes good, which is a chance
I'm sure we'll all have a lot more drafts before selection night. Cheers and best of luck mate
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Rucks giving me a bit of grief, Personally think Gawn is overpriced and we have been burnt each year with Rucks not following up string years the next. May go with Grundy, Was keen on Nicholls but with the arrival of Witts cooled. Martin also an option but waiting to see if Brisbane return to a single ruck.
Freo have 7 games at home before travelling to Brisbane in Rd 12 and 2 of the away games are at Adelaide so expect Sandi to play the majority and if he returns to form should have made sufficient cash to allow upgrade to a performing ruck around Rd 12.
Quote from: Ringo on January 14, 2017, 11:50:17 AM
Rucks giving me a bit of grief, Personally think Gawn is overpriced and we have been burnt each year with Rucks not following up string years the next. May go with Grundy, Was keen on Nicholls but with the arrival of Witts cooled. Martin also an option but waiting to see if Brisbane return to a single ruck.
Freo have 7 games at home before travelling to Brisbane in Rd 12 and 2 of the away games are at Adelaide so expect Sandi to play the majority and if he returns to form should have made sufficient cash to allow upgrade to a performing ruck around Rd 12.
All good points, but to me having Sandi means a double trade. If he gets good game time then he may piggy back you up near the price of a top ruckman you want. So far so good. But what about Paddy Ryder ?? How will the break effect the suspended players, will they weaken near the end of the season. Personally don't think they will, I think it more likely that they may start a bit slower instead. But either way I don't believe Ryder will become a top 7 forward, just maybe a handy final R/F reserve. Guess it comes back to how many absolute keepers you want to start with. Probably 26 just like me. Cheers.
Gawn is a lot of money up front. Historically rucks in SC have failed to back up the following year so your reasoning is sound. My feeling is Gawn is still entering his prime period of football and is committed to being the best ruck in the AFL. Yes he will lose value but you also get an exceptional C/VC option. All other ruck options come with risks as well. Grundy is likely to improve his output and get to 105+ this year. But would you use him as a reliable VC option. Don't think so.
Sandilands is a risk that is worthwhile for the potential upside and minimal downside. If he comes out firing we may be in a position to trade up by Rnd 9-10 to a Goldy, Grundy or Stef.
Ryder as R/F is a minimal risk option. Likely to avg 95+ as a forward is great return and come end of season would be F6/7.
My plan is Gawn, Sandi with Ryder in F3/4 at the start of the season. Goal is Gawn, (Goldy,Stef, Grundy) by mid season to run the season out.
I like your side Ringo..
I have a similar set up with 3 premo defence and forwards and potential 6 premo mids
Good side mate.
Sandi / Goldy combo will be very popular. Not sure if Thomas will get a game at Collingwood so watch him. 2 blokes coming off knee reco's in backline could be a risk although both seem to be travelling well at the moment.
Quote from: pietime on January 16, 2017, 12:57:09 PM
Good side mate.
Sandi / Goldy combo will be very popular. Not sure if Thomas will get a game at Collingwood so watch him. 2 blokes coming off knee reco's in backline could be a risk although both seem to be travelling well at the moment.
Thank You put Thomas in because of his price at $193k. Just to ensure I have wriggle room when we find out who is playing. I will probably not start Murphy and have a replacement in mind,
Quote from: Ringo on January 14, 2017, 11:50:17 AM
Rucks giving me a bit of grief, Personally think Gawn is overpriced and we have been burnt each year with Rucks not following up string years the next. May go with Grundy, Was keen on Nicholls but with the arrival of Witts cooled. Martin also an option but waiting to see if Brisbane return to a single ruck.
Freo have 7 games at home before travelling to Brisbane in Rd 12 and 2 of the away games are at Adelaide so expect Sandi to play the majority and if he returns to form should have made sufficient cash to allow upgrade to a performing ruck around Rd 12.
Geez you have nailed this, spot on with what I was thinking.
Posting my latest team here in case I lose it when SC opens tomorrow.
Slight adjustments from last team but one I am now sitting on.
(https://i.gyazo.com/617a0b296985199686b66c012aae0f69.png)
Only 10 keepers with 5 mid priced risky picks is to much for me. Could pay off handsomely or you could crash and burn :)
Fair comment and one thing for certain will not be my final team. Used Swallow and high priced rookies to make sure I had plenty of wriggle room when we know what rookies are playing round 1. So plenty of scope to upgrade some mid pricers if cheaper rook options come eg if Swallow goes down to say a 130k rookie then easy upgrade of Martin.
Hoping to turn Sandi into best ruck that is coming up. Been burnt previously with Rucks not backing up the following year - Jacobs, Goldy (last year). Martin etc - Each year we seem to have a ruck come from lower levels to be stand outs so keeping my eye on the likes of Grundy, Hickey and co. Sandi may even survive. Why Ryder must stay in forwards initially.
Hoping Beams has a hassle free season and one less trade.
Good team. Like that you have expensive rookies so that you can downgrade later on a potentially get a mid pricer to a premium.
Yeah I like that he used high priced rooks so that he can downgrade for a nice rook and upgrade to someone if needed to. That is my plan to and I think a lot of people are doing that plan to and it can be helpful to put some rooks in.
haha :D
Just did a team with weak defence based on the rookies that may be available - Strengthened rucks a little as well. Final team will probably be a mixture of the 2.
Still undecided on Macrae and whether to get rid of Ryder or keep for added ruck protection.
(https://i.gyazo.com/894eed23227809f84349173873cce2d8.png)
Again expensive rookies for wriggle room.
Love the mids, near indentical to mine, except gone with Murphy over Beams. Hopefully he works out for you, got burnt by him last year. :(
Rucks and forward line is fine, but I have concerns over the weakness of your backline, really feel you need another premium in D3...is there a reason why you went so weak?
Quote from: Sven on February 06, 2017, 01:14:31 PM
Love the mids, near indentical to mine, except gone with Murphy over Beams. Hopefully he works out for you, got burnt by him last year. :(
Rucks and forward line is fine, but I have concerns over the weakness of your backline, really feel you need another premium in D3...is there a reason why you went so weak?
Basically lack of cash but hoping with lower priced rookies can rectify. Feel this is the line where a lot of rookies will play if does not work out.
Yep. Ok if we get those defensive rookies. Planning for the same but will have to change if they don't come up or you will be eating doughnuts. I'm not sure on Macrae either. He should score well but can't really see him ever becoming unaffordable so can get him later. Ryder is popular and will save a trade if a ruck goes down... personal preference with him. I don't see him as a must but do see the appeal.
No problem with any of it.
McGrath, Louge, Keefe, Scharenberg, Hampton, Hibberd, Newman, Stewart, Long, Ryan
They are all good chances to play round one.
Also Berry is a small chance but was injured and would have been on the fringe of the best 22 anyways in my opinion.
Can't see why 6 out of those 10/11 won't line up and play consistently.
Had a play with a guns and rookies apart from Bob at D3. Depending on what rookies come up, and I have quite expensive ones, D3 or F3 could become another prem.
78k cash as well.
This team carries less risk than one above so just need to decide which structure to follow.
(https://i.gyazo.com/8074eaf303182bca6b5382aa393aeac5.png)
Not sure about Bob Murphy at his age think he might suffer some soft tissue issues after his ACL
Mids look strong
Rucks not sure on Stef after having him last year but you will know more about him and team than me
Forwards well just can't see all them rookies lining up R1 you never know but think it is a stretch you will probably have to unload a gun mid to fix it come first teams R1
Thanks Shaker - Hoping when it shakes down as i said to have a prem at D3 or F3 depending on what rookies are available.
There are about 12/15 rookies that are looking good in forward and defence and surely 7 will play each week (My hope if I stick with this structure).
Stef could quite easily become Goldy or Jacobs depending on the situation. Did not play in yesterdays Intraclub as a precaution but hopefully he gets 2 games in JLT to see how he is going this year.
Quote from: Ringo on February 11, 2017, 03:45:37 PM
Thanks Shaker - Hoping when it shakes down as i said to have a prem at D3 or F3 depending on what rookies are available.
There are about 12/15 rookies that are looking good in forward and defence and surely 7 will play each week (My hope if I stick with this structure).
Stef could quite easily become Goldy or Jacobs depending on the situation. Did not play in yesterdays Intraclub as a precaution but hopefully he gets 2 games in JLT to see how he is going this year.
Good team to sit on till we all know more the season not to far away now ;)
If the rookies all come up, should be good. I'm reaaaaaally tempted to start Stef haha
Quote from: GoLions on February 11, 2017, 09:13:57 PM
If the rookies all come up, should be good. I'm reaaaaaally tempted to start Stef haha
I went goldy+stef last year (BURNT) but i'm so tempted to go again with it!
Ringo, i reckon the team is pretty much spot on... Just Bob Murphy needs to go, ACL returning players don't bounce back well in terms of performance would assess him mid-year. Someone like Lloyd or around that mark would be a better investment if you're looking for a cheapy. Would try to get another premo there though
Thanks Shaker - Murphy is the place holder at the moment - I am hoping either D3 or F3 can be another prem when we know rookies playing., but comfortable playing Murphy if need be.
:)
You had J Matrin in some of your earlier teams. Would have thought him a better pick than Murph, any particular reason for taking him out ?? If Thurlow shows a bit in the pre season, perhaps Murph to him, plus $130 k cash ? Cheers. ;)
Pure $ with this team Sabre - With Guns and rookies I have a 2,6,2,2 set up with a possible prem either D3 or F3 depending on which rookies look like starting. Eye is on Thurlow and Martin in pre-season as well as Caddy/Heeney.
Getting close now.
When you downgrade the rookies to whoever is selected round one you will have enough cash to turn Murphy into Adams/Laird so I wouldn't be too stressed.
Good team overall.
My man Ringo. Just found out that David Myers will be out for 6-8 weeks. That's bad cause his in like nearly every supercoach team. Just want to keep you warned. Fell sorry for him he gets injured every year. Wish all the best for David Myers as I'm a bomber fan. Wish the best recover to David Myers.
Here is the article I read
http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/teams/essendon/david-myers-injury-curse-continues-sidelined-by-finger-injury-after-training-mishap/news-story/627031c254464978c0ab162075c90e31
Thanks Pure swag - Read it myself - Gee midfield rookies falling like flies.
For the record here is my latest team following Myers announcements,
(https://i.gyazo.com/2026908031e9bbd5304f3050c2d6db04.png)
Will probably change 100 times before Rd 1. Wriggle room to adjust. O'Meara could become Beams if he shows something in JLT 2 and 3. Definitely playing JLT2.
I like the look of your mids Ringo but I'm just not sure I can go that far, it seems awfully unbalanced. You're punting that 6 of your starting mids are going to be keepers. However in saying that it seems a lot more people are heading that way with their sides.
Very similar structure too my current line up. So obviously I'm a fan.
You have O'meara and Swallow while I have Trealor and rookie although with the current mid rookie problems I may go with your approach.
Possible changes being looked at and dependant on rookies available:
O'Meara to a rookie and McGrath to a a 3rd prem defender
Goldstein to Sandi and Ryder/Lycett/Boyd at F3 - Boyd coming into consideration due to Roughead injury.
Whatever happens hoping, barring injury, to have a minimum of 12 keepers. This should allow me after upgrades etc a minimum of 10 trades for injuries and finals. Famous last words as we are not in an ideal word. Reckon jhave 12 atm and could be 14 if both O'Meara and Swallow remain healthy and score consistently.
Thats the plan anyway.
Quote from: Ringo on February 22, 2017, 11:02:15 AM
Possible changes being looked at and dependant on rookies available:
O'Meara to a rookie and McGrath to a a 3rd prem defender
Goldstein to Sandi and Ryder/Lycett/Boyd at F3 - Boyd coming into consideration due to Roughead injury.
Whatever happens hoping, barring injury, to have a minimum of 12 keepers. This should allow me after upgrades etc a minimum of 10 trades for injuries and finals. Famous last words as we are not in an ideal word. Reckon jhave 12 atm and could be 14 if both O'Meara and Swallow remain healthy and score consistently.
Thats the plan anyway.
Boyd on my radar also
Team starting to take shape and this will probably be the team I sit on till round 1.
(https://i.gyazo.com/97c24802d9a6fa9d042b10770157108d.png)
Obviously some risks involved and you need to take to get the big biscuits. Murphy, Beams, Swallow, O'Meara and Roughy all coming back from injury the risks.
Still not 100% sold on Higgins, like Miller but with Ryder in Team can not afford 2 out in Rd 9 before other outs arise.
Interestingly with this team have no first year rookies on the field.
Wanted to see Beams in JLT before locking him. Looking at last night think he will effect Rockys score more than Zorko as both play similar roles.
Assuming all the risky players still playing and in my team at byes:
13 playing Rd 11
12 playing rd 12
11 Playing Rd 13.
Also have 60k cash.
Interestingly how you get drawn back to the mid priced players returning ;). But this team looks a lot more balanced.
Nice team Ringo, exactly the same structure as my own. Here's our head to head situation:
Monty vs Rance
Adams vs R.Murphy
Selwood vs Rocky
Zorko vs M.Murphy
Gawn vs Goldy
Higgins vs Macrae
That seems a pretty even tussle, would probably come down to captain's picks and rookie selections. You've also got a nice forward loophole option with the Ryder/Strnadica combo, this is something that has been largely overlooked.
Still trying to decide whether to go the Gawnstein rucks or use Sandi and Gawn with Nankervis the back ruck.
Quote from: Ringo on March 04, 2017, 01:58:21 PM
Still trying to decide whether to go the Gawnstein rucks or use Sandi and Gawn with Nankervis the back ruck.
Gawnstein is the safer option
Just did this slight adjustment and feel comfortable with it.
Pickett down to Parfitt allowing
Goldy to Gawn
Quote from: Ringo on March 04, 2017, 03:42:16 PM
Just did this slight adjustment and feel comfortable with it.
Pickett down to Parfitt allowing
Goldy to Gawn
Good decision ringo dont see Pickett starting and if he does JS will be suspect.
20 bucks who will score more points and average higher. Goldy or Gawn? For me it is Gawn being top 5 overall for the year. Goldy 110 average at best. Mind you if Sandi was 500K I would be starting Goldy but at 300k too good to overlook.
With the emergence of Nankervis as likely No 1 ruck at tigers, uncertainty with Gawn spending time forward and the effect of Preuss on Goldy though I would experiment a little.
Idea to upgrade rucks if required when we get an idea as to which rucks will be dominant for 2017.
Still not sure I will start with this structure but worth some consideration. Risk though with the low rucks but reckon Sandi and Nank can average 190 - 200 between them which is only 20ppg below the Gawn Goldy combo and you pick up on other lines.
(https://i.gyazo.com/0578f1a989b85c1d51f3d27417e741cb.png)
So basically have to decide this structure v one above.
I rate both structures highly. I'm jumping on the Nankervis bandwagon the same way everyone jumped on the Doggies last year.
Sandi looked great in JLT game on the weekend. I think that could work.
Myself, I'm sticking with Gawn and Nankervis. A very similar structure which the only difference is I have JOM at M6 instead of Beams and a couple of rookies.
Both I think will work, it's just a matter on your own opinion.
I toyed with a similar structure but in the end I asked myself two questions. 1. What happens if a ruck goes down early? & 2. Will Gawn be a top 2 ruck by season's end?
One can still have Nank in the forward line and to be fair, he's just as much use there as he is in the ruck. The only reasoning I can see in following this structure is to seal up F5 & F6. Those would appear to be the weak spots in most people's team. I'm currently trying to work that out for myself, it may even involve working out a cunning forward loophole strategy.
As you know, I have a very similar structure, I have one rookie on the field in the mids, bout the only difference.
But geez, there are some interesting player choices...
Howe? I really cant see him being a top 10 defender, he is used too inconsistently, and when he is played out of position, his SC score sucks. Would rather Vince at the same price. Keeffe will be a prominent feature, but his scoring potential worries me.
Shoenmakers. :/ JS is a huge issue, 36 games in 4 seasons.
Personally dont like Caddy, reckon he could be a bit of a trap pick. Hasnt set the world on fire, Macrae feels like a safer pick. Love the Higgins pick though, dont have the balls to pick him though, those injury concerns. :/
Best of luck though!
Quote from: Sven on March 06, 2017, 06:54:33 PM
As you know, I have a very similar structure, I have one rookie on the field in the mids, bout the only difference.
But geez, there are some interesting player choices...
Howe? I really cant see him being a top 10 defender, he is used too inconsistently, and when he is played out of position, his SC score sucks. Would rather Vince at the same price. Keeffe will be a prominent feature, but his scoring potential worries me.
Shoenmakers. :/ JS is a huge issue, 36 games in 4 seasons.
Personally dont like Caddy, reckon he could be a bit of a trap pick. Hasnt set the world on fire, Macrae feels like a safer pick. Love the Higgins pick though, dont have the balls to pick him though, those injury concerns. :/
Best of luck though!
Howe was one of the best performers from round 6 onwards, Vince is the one you should be very worried about, looks to be the primary tagger.
Slight change of Team 2
Caddy to Heeney
Keeffe to Marchbank.
Quote from: Bully on March 06, 2017, 07:13:50 PM
Quote from: Sven on March 06, 2017, 06:54:33 PM
As you know, I have a very similar structure, I have one rookie on the field in the mids, bout the only difference.
But geez, there are some interesting player choices...
Howe? I really cant see him being a top 10 defender, he is used too inconsistently, and when he is played out of position, his SC score sucks. Would rather Vince at the same price. Keeffe will be a prominent feature, but his scoring potential worries me.
Shoenmakers. :/ JS is a huge issue, 36 games in 4 seasons.
Personally dont like Caddy, reckon he could be a bit of a trap pick. Hasnt set the world on fire, Macrae feels like a safer pick. Love the Higgins pick though, dont have the balls to pick him though, those injury concerns. :/
Best of luck though!
Howe was one of the best performers from round 6 onwards, Vince is the one you should be very worried about, looks to be the primary tagger.
He was the 9th best performer behind Enright, Burgoyne, Docherty, Simpson, Boyd, Rance, McDonald and Shaw after Round 9. He also has the 3rd highest standard deviation out of the top 25 defenders, and his highest score was only 135 (unlike Shaw with 205). Not to mention his average in the first 6 rounds was just 57.75.
If you're after a keeper that will score high and score them consistently, I'd definitely be looking elsewhere. Stats dont lie. :)
Quote from: Ringo on March 06, 2017, 07:20:11 PM
Slight change of Team 2
Caddy to Heeney
Keeffe to Marchbank.
Nice changes, really looking at Marchbank myself.
Quote from: Sven on March 06, 2017, 08:16:12 PM
Quote from: Bully on March 06, 2017, 07:13:50 PM
Quote from: Sven on March 06, 2017, 06:54:33 PM
As you know, I have a very similar structure, I have one rookie on the field in the mids, bout the only difference.
But geez, there are some interesting player choices...
Howe? I really cant see him being a top 10 defender, he is used too inconsistently, and when he is played out of position, his SC score sucks. Would rather Vince at the same price. Keeffe will be a prominent feature, but his scoring potential worries me.
Shoenmakers. :/ JS is a huge issue, 36 games in 4 seasons.
Personally dont like Caddy, reckon he could be a bit of a trap pick. Hasnt set the world on fire, Macrae feels like a safer pick. Love the Higgins pick though, dont have the balls to pick him though, those injury concerns. :/
Best of luck though!
Howe was one of the best performers from round 6 onwards, Vince is the one you should be very worried about, looks to be the primary tagger.
He was the 9th best performer behind Enright, Burgoyne, Docherty, Simpson, Boyd, Rance, McDonald and Shaw after Round 9. He also has the 3rd highest standard deviation out of the top 25 defenders, and his highest score was only 135 (unlike Shaw with 205). Not to mention his average in the first 6 rounds was just 57.75.
If you're after a keeper that will score high and score them consistently, I'd definitely be looking elsewhere. Stats dont lie. :)
Quote from: Ringo on March 06, 2017, 07:20:11 PM
Slight change of Team 2
Caddy to Heeney
Keeffe to Marchbank.
Nice changes, really looking at Marchbank myself.
Howe averaged 100 after round 6, this was the point he was switched to defence. Be careful with the season stats, it doesn't tell the full story. Here's the breakdown from round 7 onwards.
100+ scores = 8
80-99 = 6
>80 = 2
Quote from: Bully on March 06, 2017, 08:28:57 PM
Quote from: Sven on March 06, 2017, 08:16:12 PM
Quote from: Bully on March 06, 2017, 07:13:50 PM
Quote from: Sven on March 06, 2017, 06:54:33 PM
As you know, I have a very similar structure, I have one rookie on the field in the mids, bout the only difference.
But geez, there are some interesting player choices...
Howe? I really cant see him being a top 10 defender, he is used too inconsistently, and when he is played out of position, his SC score sucks. Would rather Vince at the same price. Keeffe will be a prominent feature, but his scoring potential worries me.
Shoenmakers. :/ JS is a huge issue, 36 games in 4 seasons.
Personally dont like Caddy, reckon he could be a bit of a trap pick. Hasnt set the world on fire, Macrae feels like a safer pick. Love the Higgins pick though, dont have the balls to pick him though, those injury concerns. :/
Best of luck though!
Howe was one of the best performers from round 6 onwards, Vince is the one you should be very worried about, looks to be the primary tagger.
He was the 9th best performer behind Enright, Burgoyne, Docherty, Simpson, Boyd, Rance, McDonald and Shaw after Round 9. He also has the 3rd highest standard deviation out of the top 25 defenders, and his highest score was only 135 (unlike Shaw with 205). Not to mention his average in the first 6 rounds was just 57.75.
If you're after a keeper that will score high and score them consistently, I'd definitely be looking elsewhere. Stats dont lie. :)
Quote from: Ringo on March 06, 2017, 07:20:11 PM
Slight change of Team 2
Caddy to Heeney
Keeffe to Marchbank.
Nice changes, really looking at Marchbank myself.
Howe averaged 100 after round 6, this was the point he was switched to defence. Be careful with the season stats, it doesn't tell the full story. Here's the breakdown from round 7 onwards.
100+ scores = 8
80-99 = 6
>80 = 2
I'll just leave this here. Feel free to use this and make up your mind however you choose. :)
T 100+ = Total 100+ scores for 2016
SD = Standard Deviation for season.
Name | R17 | R18 | R19 | R20 | R21 | R22 | R23 | Av Last 6 | T 100+ | SD |
Corey Enright | 128 | 136 | 98 | 149 | 101 | 113 | 79 | 114.9 | 11 | 22.6 |
Shaun Burgoyne | 159 | 109 | 107 | 88 | 99 | 106 | 130 | 114.0 | 8 | 23.45 |
Sam Docherty | 138 | 112 | 107 | 104 | 92 | 110 | 102 | 109.3 | 16 | 19.82 |
Kade Simpson | 115 | 125 | 88 | 122 | 90 | 97 | 122 | 108.4 | 15 | 14.8 |
Matthew Boyd | 90 | 84 | - | 109 | 104 | 119 | 125 | 105.2 | 11 | 17.6 |
Alex Rance | 67 | 100 | 145 | 120 | 126 | 80 | 90 | 104.0 | 9 | 22.37 |
Tom McDonald | 111 | 74 | 94 | 111 | 102 | 108 | 121 | 103.0 | 7 | 23.16 |
Heath Shaw | 92 | 82 | 129 | 58 | 88 | 103 | 124 | 96.6 | 12 | 34.25 |
Zach Tuohy | 81 | 74 | 108 | 121 | 112 | 67 | 112 | 96.4 | 6 | 23.76 |
Jeremy Howe | 89 | 88 | 58 | 96 | 97 | 130 | 109 | 95.3 | 8 | 26.1 |
Quote from: Sven on March 06, 2017, 11:17:08 PM
Quote from: Bully on March 06, 2017, 08:28:57 PM
Quote from: Sven on March 06, 2017, 08:16:12 PM
Quote from: Bully on March 06, 2017, 07:13:50 PM
Quote from: Sven on March 06, 2017, 06:54:33 PM
As you know, I have a very similar structure, I have one rookie on the field in the mids, bout the only difference.
But geez, there are some interesting player choices...
Howe? I really cant see him being a top 10 defender, he is used too inconsistently, and when he is played out of position, his SC score sucks. Would rather Vince at the same price. Keeffe will be a prominent feature, but his scoring potential worries me.
Shoenmakers. :/ JS is a huge issue, 36 games in 4 seasons.
Personally dont like Caddy, reckon he could be a bit of a trap pick. Hasnt set the world on fire, Macrae feels like a safer pick. Love the Higgins pick though, dont have the balls to pick him though, those injury concerns. :/
Best of luck though!
Howe was one of the best performers from round 6 onwards, Vince is the one you should be very worried about, looks to be the primary tagger.
He was the 9th best performer behind Enright, Burgoyne, Docherty, Simpson, Boyd, Rance, McDonald and Shaw after Round 9. He also has the 3rd highest standard deviation out of the top 25 defenders, and his highest score was only 135 (unlike Shaw with 205). Not to mention his average in the first 6 rounds was just 57.75.
If you're after a keeper that will score high and score them consistently, I'd definitely be looking elsewhere. Stats dont lie. :)
Quote from: Ringo on March 06, 2017, 07:20:11 PM
Slight change of Team 2
Caddy to Heeney
Keeffe to Marchbank.
Nice changes, really looking at Marchbank myself.
Howe averaged 100 after round 6, this was the point he was switched to defence. Be careful with the season stats, it doesn't tell the full story. Here's the breakdown from round 7 onwards.
100+ scores = 8
80-99 = 6
>80 = 2
I'll just leave this here. Feel free to use this and make up your mind however you choose. :)
T 100+ = Total 100+ scores for 2016
SD = Standard Deviation for season.
Name | R17 | R18 | R19 | R20 | R21 | R22 | R23 | Av Last 6 | T 100+ | SD |
Corey Enright | 128 | 136 | 98 | 149 | 101 | 113 | 79 | 114.9 | 11 | 22.6 |
Shaun Burgoyne | 159 | 109 | 107 | 88 | 99 | 106 | 130 | 114.0 | 8 | 23.45 |
Sam Docherty | 138 | 112 | 107 | 104 | 92 | 110 | 102 | 109.3 | 16 | 19.82 |
Kade Simpson | 115 | 125 | 88 | 122 | 90 | 97 | 122 | 108.4 | 15 | 14.8 |
Matthew Boyd | 90 | 84 | - | 109 | 104 | 119 | 125 | 105.2 | 11 | 17.6 |
Alex Rance | 67 | 100 | 145 | 120 | 126 | 80 | 90 | 104.0 | 9 | 22.37 |
Tom McDonald | 111 | 74 | 94 | 111 | 102 | 108 | 121 | 103.0 | 7 | 23.16 |
Heath Shaw | 92 | 82 | 129 | 58 | 88 | 103 | 124 | 96.6 | 12 | 34.25 |
Zach Tuohy | 81 | 74 | 108 | 121 | 112 | 67 | 112 | 96.4 | 6 | 23.76 |
Jeremy Howe | 89 | 88 | 58 | 96 | 97 | 130 | 109 | 95.3 | 8 | 26.1 |
More interested in Howe's numbers from round 7 onwards.
I think your Nankilands set up requires some serious stones, but if the risks pay off it'll be a cracker team. I would prefer maybe a slight middleground between your two sides.
Here's the rather risky players I see in the nankilands team:
Nank, Zorko, Heeney, Howe, WHE, Schoey
combined with the already risky Sandi/Roughy/Beams/JOM/Swallow
Zorko is perhaps justified after carrying the team last year, but I still see him as a risk if Rocky and Beams both step up, and a couple of youngsters pull finger. But he's probably the least worrisome, worst case scenario he ends up M6-7 which is not ideal for someone priced at ~600k to start, but ok.
Heeney and Howe are priced such that they have to become keepers to be worthwhile, but neither has history of putting up prem numbers to back them up.
Nank is an inbetweener, needs to be moderately successful to pay off, I think my issue is more he's your starting R1. As you know I have him too, but as a fwd with the idea of covering Sandi if needed. If he maintains JLT form then great, but his primary role for me is ruck cover. I think he will need to be traded out eventually. But for someone who can start, hopefully put up a few 80s, and possibly turn into a keeper (outside chance), he works well.
WHE and Schoey again less of a worry given our current knowledge of rooks, but I'm not sure they will score well enough to rise much from their starting prices. Be interested in what you're projecting them to average?
Sandi/Roughy/Beams/JOM/Swallow are all punts that you're taking based off their history, and I have no problem with any of them - it's more that I think they are the risks you take, and the others could be shored up with slightly more solid options. Eg if you trade one of Zorko/Heeney/Howe down to a rook, you have a bunch of cash to splash around, which I think could result in net change of WHE out, Nank fwd, Gawn/Goldy to ruck, and change to play with to sort the other two prem-potentials to more concrete choices. Not 100% on my mental maths there, but that's where I'd be looking.
Thanks Kiwi - Nice suggestions and still playing around but the doubt with Gawn forward and influence on Goldy with Preuss is concerning a little. Would be great if Preuss did not play though.
Think Beams will effect Rocky more than zorko as Beams and Rocky are both in and under whereas Zorks is a little outside,
Still not 100% on Howe or Heeney, Have picked WHE and Schoey as expensive place holders/starters that can be changed if decent rookis start. Same applies for O'Meara as Swallow imo will rise quickly and be that stepping stone.
Hi Ringo
I prefer the second teams structure. I like the Zorko pick, think he will have a great year. Schoenmakers should play a lot and is very cheap. I heard Heeney will miss early rounds with glandular.
Good luck
Isaac Heeney is inuried and is gonna miss the start of the AFL Season here's the article
https://www.google.com.au/amp/s/coupler.foxsports.com.au/api/v1/article/amp/afl/isaac-heeney-to-miss-the-start-of-2017-afl-season-due-to-glandular-fever/news-story/6966b3f0b9feb12861812c4673a1bb67
Thanks all - Been keeping an eye on the injuries etc and been playing around with Team and this is team as it stands at the moment. Obviously will change again. Pretty settled on this structure just need to get the players right.
(https://i.gyazo.com/4c58725ec30287f1cd9c9f008bf6ea9f.png)
Have 90k cash to manouvre rookies and if all start Murphy will become Lloyd or ?
So ringo how did you get Fagan to drop Archie. Thanks from all of us.
Love the team structurally.
Think Nankervis is probably a better option than Ryder.
Final Final Sitting Team
Changes
Murphy to Howe
Caddy to Gunston
Ryder to Nankervis
(https://i.gyazo.com/7c2a2c543f60ebcba55e0bd5b0a67fa5.png)
Schoenmakers the only real issue I will deal with when final teams are available.
Structure
Prems over $500k
Mid Price $250k - $500k
Rookies < 250K
Def 3 - 0 - 5
Mids 5 - 3 - 3
Ruck 0 - 2 - 1
Fwd 2 - 1 - 5
Total 10 - 6 - 14
Of the 6 midpricers hoping 3/4 become keepers which is feasible.
Prem Mid Bye Structure
Rd 11 12 available
Rd 12 12 available
Rd 13 9 Available.
Will be looking at upgrading to Port and Suns players who are performing after Rd 9 bye and that will further assist byes.
Sitting on hands now following all my analysis although Pendles could become Zorko with concern over his injury but as we have learnt never underestimate a star with injury.
OK Looking at 2 different structure with rucks:
Team 1:
(https://i.gyazo.com/e66ff25a2503f527d82d00ef42e4d345.png)
Nankervis and Sandi in Rucks with Ryder Forward
11 definite keepers (including Beams and Roughy) Sandi, Ryder could make 13.
Team 2
(https://i.gyazo.com/5fac71b3212e05065df4c298c68b6893.png)
Martin and Sandilands in Ruck
See 12 definite keepers (including Beams and Martin) Sandi also a possibility,
Having difficulty like most in deciding which ruck structure and strategy to go, Sandi is a virtual must though. If Preuss not named may go Martin to Goldy given his juicy first few rounds.
Im not sure which team is better so ill just mention the things i like and dislike about both of those fwd/ruck structures
like: roughy, buddy
dislike: ryder, black
how about
Dahl, buddy, roughy and the nak in the fwd line
and sandilands plus a martin/goldy/grundy type??
Team 1 for me Ringo, as is similar set up to my last team. Cheers.
Love the team Ringo! What have you ended up going with coming into game one?
Will post final team after final teams tomorrow:
Decisions I am Looking at
Taranto v GHS
Vickers-Willis/Otten v Joel Smith
Out of those I'd go WHS, better JS should average about the same. I'd go Smith in defense out of those three, cheaper, and the other two are both on the extended bench. If Otten is named in the final squad I'd be awfully tempted though.
Edit: If you do mean Horlin-Smith, think he's a better option than Taranto too :)
Good luck for 2017 Ringo!
Final team for Rd 1
Def: Rance. Laird, Howe, Marchbank, Hampton, Otten (Stewart, Joel Smith)
Mids: Danger, Pendles, Kennedy, Selwood, Fyfe, Beams, O'Meara, Powell-Pepper (Barrett, Hibberd, Parfitt)
Rucks: Martin, Sandilands (Strnadica)
Feds: Dahlhaus, Franklin, Roughead, Nankervis, Hoskin-Elliott, Pickett >:( (Butler, Eddy)
Sticking with Rance unless he has another 2 bad games and i need to correct but banking him to finish top 10 again.
Taranto and Hoskin Elliott have been in and out of more team numerous times but have decided on WHE as I think he has the best JS, Looked at downgrading to Schoenmakers or Florent and just did not look right as both are probably fringe as well.
I like Hibberd in the midfield. It allows you to wait and see and make a correction on any line if you have to because you can swing Hibberd back if Smith fails and not have to search for a mid rookie because you also have the options with Pickett etc. down forward.
Good work with the Hoskin-Elliott pick so far, he looked good tonight. The pro and the con tonight was they used him at both ends. The pro is he has versatility keeping him in the side, the con is he saw less ball up forward.
Any particular reason you have gone Selwood over Rocky? It's one I have been debating but with less cash for Selwood I have taken Rocky.
Howe was excellent after QT tonight so you must be stoked with that pick as well.
Good team Ringo you should have a good year.
Thanks guys
Matt Just a gut feeling on Rocky - Beams and Rocky have virtually only played 2 games together with both fully fit. Not a big sample, and my feeling is they may take points off each other being similar players. Will be watching though and if he looks like averaging around the 120 will target as upgrade.
Pleased with my punt on Howe so hope he can maintain it.
Rd 1 Update
Rd 1 Score 2227
Rd 1 Rank 11746
Overall Rank 11746
Rd 1 Team
Def: Rance. Laird, Howe, Marchbank, Hampton, Otten (Stewart, Joel Smith)
Mids: Danger, Pendles, Kennedy, Selwood, Fyfe, Beams, O'Meara, Powell-Pepper (Barrett, Hibberd, Parfitt)
Rucks: Martin, Sandilands (Strnadica)
Fwds: Dahlhaus, Franklin, Roughead, Nankervis, Hoskin-Elliott, Pickett >:( (Butler, Eddy)
The Good
Laird, Howe, Marchbank, Danger, Pendles, JPK (Used as VC Loophole), Beams, SPP. Sandi, Franklin, Nankervis, Hoskin-Elliott, Butler
Strnadica with loophole option for majority year,
The Average
Hampton, Fyfe, Selwood, O'Meara, Steve Martin, Roughead, Stewart
The Bad
Dahlhaus, Rance and Rookies (my expectations min 50) Otten, J Smith, Barrett, Parfitt, Hibberd, Pickett, Eddy. Coaches error playing Pickett on field over Butler
Awaiting outcome of Smith injury. If for a while may use as loophole as I do not think too many options and if Cameron plays Strnadica to Cameron for cash generation. Can not have more than 1 non player on pine.
Will make final decision later in week to see if can wait another week or need to move to get another 2 corrective trades Rd 2.
Also interesting when I checked for Rd 2 really only 3 players on my team will probably not achieve B/E Rance 177, Selwood 122 (although possible), and Dahlhaus 117 and also possible. All other players if picked should achieve break evens.
Josh Smith the exception who should be traded either this week or next. Macreadie, Newman, Long the possible replacements. Also considering Smith as loophole given Melbourne play 12 Saturday night Sunday games and going Strnadica to Preuss for cash build.
Quote from: Ringo on March 30, 2017, 11:27:57 AM
Also interesting when I checked for Rd 2 really only 3 players on my team will probably not achieve B/E Rance 177, Selwood 122 (although possible), and Dahlhaus 117 and also possible. All other players if picked should achieve break evens.
Josh Smith the exception who should be traded either this week or next. Macreadie, Newman, Long the possible replacements. Also considering Smith as loophole given Melbourne play 12 Saturday night Sunday games and going Strnadica to Preuss for cash build.
Tbh i don't think it really matters what the BE is for your premos :p
Also, they still have another week to change that R3 BE ;)
Holding Smith and going Strnadica to Preuss is very risky imo, and i assume gets rid of your ability to switch Strnadica with Nank? If you can find 100k somewhere, I think McGrath is the best option after the obvious in Marchbank, Stewart, and Hampton. Otherwise waiting for Long is probably the way to go.
Rd 2 Update
Rd 2 Score 2342
Rd 1 Rank 1141
Overall Rank 918 (Up 10828 places)
Rd 2 Team
Def: Rance. Laird, Howe, Marchbank, Hampton, Otten (Stewart, Joel Smith)
Mids: Danger, Pendles, Kennedy, Selwood, Fyfe, Beams, O'Meara, Powell-Pepper (Barrett, Hibberd, Parfitt)
Rucks: Martin, Sandilands (Strnadica)
Fwds: Dahlhaus, Franklin, Roughead, Nankervis, Hoskin-Elliott, Butler(Pickett, Eddy)
The Good
Rance, Otten, Marchbank, Hampton, Stewart, Danger, Pendles, Jelwood, Fyfe, Beams, SPS, O'Meara, Martin, Nankervis, Franklin, WHE, Dahlhaus, Butler, Roughead, Eddy
Loopholing Otten and Stewart via Smith.
The Average
Howe, Barrett, Sandilands.
The Bad
Laird, Parfitt, Pickett, JPK
Did Not PLay
Smith
Hibberd
Strnadica
Happy with score this week with nearly all prems except Laird firing.
Still deciding whether to trade this week or look at Macreadie and Newman for another week and then trade Smith. Not sure what to do with Hibberd and may make decision later in week when teams announced as may have other issues,
I'd chuck JPK in the bad pile too.
I'd also wait a week on Smith. Maybe Hibberd to Houston via Pickett?
Thanks Wato - Just hope I can get on line again later in week. Using phone to hotspot as no internet at house we are staying in for the week.
YEP JPK in the bad but will bounce back this week.
Also thought of Hibberd to Houston or Pickett to Houston. But remember Eddy a late replacement so he may be gone as well so then Eddy to Houston.
Quote from: Ringo on April 03, 2017, 05:52:22 PM
Thanks Wato - Just hope I can get on line again later in week. Using phone to hotspot as no internet at house we are staying in for the week.
YEP JPK in the bad but will bounce back this week.
Also thought of Hibberd to Houston or Pickett to Houston. But remember Eddy a late replacement so he may be gone as well so then Eddy to Houston.
Give us a bell if you need help.
I think Eddy will hold his spot against the Crows. Hibberd has to go, he's rubbish.
Awesome rank this early in the season Ringo. Nice team and you've made 0 trades so far? You're in for a good year I reckon.
Hi Ringo, I have a very similar team to you and ranked 1438 with no trades so far. Where you've got me is I don't have WHE and am thinking of trading Roughy to him. Roughy may end up averaging 5-10 more than WHE but only make 60k whereas WHE should make 150+. The price difference between the two can also be used elsewhere either now or at a later date.
What would your gut tell you? Save a trade and pass on WHE or go for the cash? I've no other option to bring WHE in, only Roughie.
PS am also a Lions supporter.
AS you know I have both and am happy. As I tell most go with gut and depends you are going for overall or league win. I am still hopeful Roughie starts to gain fitness and play 4 quarters. He is improving each game. If going for overall need to get team set as quickly as possible and that is where cash generation comes in. My plan if Roughie does stagnate then WHE down and Roughie up.
Also whilst Brisbane have improved still expect us to finish 14 - 18 mainly due to the fact that I am finding it hard to see which sides will fall further apart from Suns. Just want to win more games this year.
Rd 3 Update
Rd 3 Score 2259
Rd 3 Rank 10196
Overall Rank 853 (Up 65)
League Wins 6/10
Rd 3 Team
Def: Rance. Laird, Howe, Marchbank, Hampton, Otten (Stewart, Hibberd)
Mids: Danger, Pendles, Kennedy, Selwood, Fyfe, Beams, O'Meara, Powell-Pepper (Barrett, Pickett, Parfitt)
Rucks: Martin, Sandilands (Strnadica)
Fwds: Dahlhaus, Franklin, Roughead, Nankervis, Hoskin-Elliott, Butler(Houston, Eddy)
The Good
Rance, Otten, Hampton, Danger, Pendles, Jelwood, Fyfe, JPK, Beams, Parfitt (on bench :( ) Barrett, Martin, Sandi, Nank, Dahlhaus, WHE, Roughy, Butler, Houston
The Average
Laird, Howe, SPP, Eddy, Marchbank
The Bad
Stewart, O'Meara, Pickett, Eddy
Did not Play
Hibberd, Strnadica
This weeks trade Newmann a definite in just deciding on a straight swap from Hibberd or Pickett using Hibberds DPP.
I would go Pickett to Newman.
Are you holding Eddy??
Waiting on teams Capper, Eddy still has a negative B/E of -35 so if named can stay on bench and already made 37k.
newman is a great cow. has looked well in the team. and can move up and snag a goal. his use of the ball is very good
team is looking solid ringo
Looks good Ringo.
My back 6 is very similar however I will be doing Stewart to Newman as I think Hibberd has a great chance of getting back into the Nth team and stay for a period of time, Esp while Nth are losing.
Still deciding which player will trade for Newman - Pickett, Hibberd and Stewart all in the frame.
Quote from: Ringo on April 10, 2017, 04:52:21 PM
Still deciding which player will trade for Newman - Pickett, Hibberd and Stewart all in the frame.
I'd stick with pickett and stewart. They're in the best 22's and probably have a spot for next few weeks, chance to get up to 200k. Also although it does sound counter productive you could trade hibberd back in later for hampton/otten/barrett and actually pocket some cash.
Scenario 1: Trade Pickett or Stewart
+20-30k in bank (NOW)
No Downgrade to Hibberd when he's on bubble
Only one 90k downgrade from either pickett/stewart later
(Cash In Bank : 120k)
Scenario 2: Trade Hibberd
+0k in bank (NOW)
Downgrade to hibberd down the track +100k<
Two 90k downgrades from pickett + stewart
(Cash In Bank : 280k)
Saying that wait on teams
It is just that Pickett and Stewart are getting close to their ceilings - Both now have positive B/E and if they score similar to last week will be close to maxing out next week anyway. Can not see both making the 90k at the moment with Pickett only going up $11k and Stewart $18k.
Quote from: Ringo on April 10, 2017, 06:01:30 PM
It is just that Pickett and Stewart are getting close to their ceilings - Both now have positive B/E and if they score similar to last week will be close to maxing out next week anyway. Can not see both making the 90k at the moment with Pickett only going up $11k and Stewart $18k.
I'm just banking on them scoring consecutive 60s
Quote from: fasttrack13 on April 10, 2017, 06:04:00 PM
Quote from: Ringo on April 10, 2017, 06:01:30 PM
It is just that Pickett and Stewart are getting close to their ceilings - Both now have positive B/E and if they score similar to last week will be close to maxing out next week anyway. Can not see both making the 90k at the moment with Pickett only going up $11k and Stewart $18k.
I'm just banking on them scoring consecutive 60s
Stewarts scores 57,60,and 22
Pickett 28,35,36
Not a lot to inspire getting 60's especially Pickett.
Quote from: Ringo on April 10, 2017, 06:09:13 PM
Quote from: fasttrack13 on April 10, 2017, 06:04:00 PM
Quote from: Ringo on April 10, 2017, 06:01:30 PM
It is just that Pickett and Stewart are getting close to their ceilings - Both now have positive B/E and if they score similar to last week will be close to maxing out next week anyway. Can not see both making the 90k at the moment with Pickett only going up $11k and Stewart $18k.
I'm just banking on them scoring consecutive 60s
Stewarts scores 57,60,and 22
Pickett 28,35,36
Not a lot to inspire getting 60's especially Pickett.
I think you're in a good enough position to take the punt on it. Worst comes to worst you trade them out in a few weeks at 150-170k. Still more than hibberd has done...
Team looks good Ringo, I would trade out Hibberd because Pickett and Stewart are still making some cash.
Like most had a real down week :(
Rd 4 Update
Rd4 Score 2063
Rd 4 Rank 17287
Overall Rank 1214 (Down 361)
League Wins 7/10
Trades Done - O'Meara to Swallow >:( Stewart to Newman :D
Rd 4 Team
Def: Rance. Laird, Howe, Marchbank, Hampton, Otten (Stewart, Hibberd) (Loopholed Stewart and Hampton)
Mids: Danger, Pendles, Kennedy, Selwood, Fyfe, Beams, Swallow, ParfitT (Barrett, Pickett,Powell-Pepper)
Rucks: Martin, Sandilands (Strnadica)
Fwds: Dahlhaus, Franklin, Roughead, Nankervis, Hoskin-Elliott, Butler(Houston, Eddy)
The Good
Laird, Howe, Otten, Newman, Jelwood, Kennedy, Martin, Sandilands, Dahlhaus, Nankervis, Butler, Houston
The Average
Marchbank, Hampton, Fyfe, Beams. Parfitt, SPP, WHE
The Bad
Rance, Danger, Pendles, Swallow, Roughead, Franklin
Did Not Play
Hibberd, Barrett, Strnadica, Eddy
Cash 108k Trades 27
Thinking these trades:
Eddy/SPP/Barrett to Balic
Roughead to Macrae
Waiting for teams to be announced but will know early which of the 3 are not named. Whoever has the highest B/E may be traded
Next week will bring in Fisher for cash. And possibly upgrade Marchbank to Adams.
Eddy/Barrett to Balic works well, if that gives you enough cash for Rough to Macrae would highly recommend (provided at least one of them doesn't play, I'd be hesitant if they both do). Macrae solid as, pretty much good for 95+ a week. Would probably give SPP one more week, should get his BE, and in the off chance he pulls an 80+ you'll be thankful for it. Next week maybe SPP to Fisher, Marchbank to Adams would be good too.
Quote from: Ringo on April 18, 2017, 12:27:10 PM
Like most had a real down week :(
Rd 4 Update
Rd4 Score 2063
Rd 4 Rank 17287
Overall Rank 1214 (Down 361)
League Wins 7/10
Trades Done - O'Meara to Swallow >:( Stewart to Newman :D
Rd 4 Team
Def: Rance. Laird, Howe, Marchbank, Hampton, Otten (Stewart, Hibberd) (Loopholed Stewart and Hampton)
Mids: Danger, Pendles, Kennedy, Selwood, Fyfe, Beams, Swallow, ParfitT (Barrett, Pickett,Powell-Pepper)
Rucks: Martin, Sandilands (Strnadica)
Fwds: Dahlhaus, Franklin, Roughead, Nankervis, Hoskin-Elliott, Butler(Houston, Eddy)
The Good
Laird, Howe, Otten, Newman, Jelwood, Kennedy, Martin, Sandilands, Dahlhaus, Nankervis, Butler, Houston
The Average
Marchbank, Hampton, Fyfe, Beams. Parfitt, SPP, WHE
The Bad
Rance, Danger, Pendles, Swallow, Roughead, Franklin
Did Not Play
Hibberd, Barrett, Strnadica, Eddy
Cash 108k Trades 27
Thinking these trades:
Eddy/SPP/Barrett to Balic
Roughead to Macrae
Waiting for teams to be announced but will know early which of the 3 are not named. Whoever has the highest B/E may be traded
Next week will bring in Fisher for cash. And possibly upgrade Marchbank to Adams.
good trades ringo. im glad i started with macrae. and i look to bring in adams next week via markbank too
Yeah it was a tough week.
I got Mcrae in last week at the last minute for O'Meara. Good move to get him in this week if you can.
Good trades Ringo, Macrae is a solid pick.
With Balic out plans into confusion:
So looking at three options
1) No Trades - hoping no late outs from my defenders as Newmann and Hibberd on bench
2) Trade Hibbert to Williamson for coverage.
3) Trade Barrett to Williamson and Roughy to Macrae.
Thinking of option1 holding this week. as not really fussed by Williamson.
Real downer of a week
Rd 5 Update
Rd 5 Score 2115
Rd 5 Rank 48629
Overall Rank 3614 (Down 2400)
League Wins 5/10
Trades Done - Hibberd to Williamson
Rd 5 Team
Def: Rance. Laird, Howe, Marchbank, Williamson, Otten (Newmann, Hampton) (Loopholed Williamson and Hampton)
Mids: Danger, Pendles, Kennedy, Selwood, Fyfe, Beams, Swallow, ParfitT (Barrett, Pickett,Powell-Pepper)
Rucks: Martin, Sandilands (Strnadica)
Fwds: Dahlhaus, Franklin, Roughead, Nankervis, Hoskin-Elliott, Butler(Houston, Eddy)
The Good
Laird, Howe, Otten, Hampton, Williamson, Dangerfield, Selwood, Fyfe, Beams, Martin, Sandilands, Dahlhaus, Nankervis, Houston, Butler.
The Average
Rance, Marchbank, JJ Kennedy, Parfitt, SPP
The Bad
Pendles (C), Swallow, Pickett, WHE, Roughy. Franklin.
Chopping and Changing the C between Selwood and Pendles >:(
Did Not Play
Newmann, Barrett, Strnadica, Eddy
Pendles is showing signs of injury so may have to do injury trade eventually.
hope to claw back some positions next week
Obviously wait for team announcements:
But Pickett/Eddy/SPP to Fisher
Roughy/WHE to Macrae or Zorko as a POD if I can afford.
Changed mind about a dozen times
After sleeping on it decided to bench Swallow as he will not lose any more cash:
Pickett to Balic (realise Pickett has not made much cash but starting to get too many non starters on bench)
Roughy to Macrae.
Leaves me 3 Defenders, 2 mids and 2 fwd prems to complete. 24 trades remaining and famous last words should have 8u.10 for sideways or injury.
Next week addressing rookies nearing ceiling to increase cash.
Rd 6 Update
Rd 6 Score 1919
Rd 6 Rank 79341
Overall Rank 6517 (Down 2903)
League Wins 3/10
Trades for Rd 6
Pickett to Balic
Roughead to Macrae
Rd 6 Team
Def: Rance. Laird, Howe, Marchbank, Newman, Otten (Williamson, Hampton)
Mids: Danger, Pendles, Kennedy, Selwood, Fyfe, Beams, Swallow, Balic (Barrett, Pickett,Powell-Pepper) Loopholed Swallow and SPP
Rucks: Martin, Sandilands (Strnadica)
Fwds: Dahlhaus, Franklin, Macrae, Nankervis, Hoskin-Elliott, Butler(Houston, Eddy)
First time for a long while excluding byes failed to reach 2000
The Good (Rookies who score above 60 good)
Laird, Rance, Otten, Marchbank, Williamson, Pendles, Balic, SPP, Sandilands, Macrae, WHE.
The Average (Rookies 40 -60)
Newman, Hampton, Parfitt, Franklin, Dahlhaus, Houston, Butler.
The Bad
Howe, Selwood, Danger (C), Fyfe, JPK, Beams, Martin, Nankervis.
DNP
Strnadica
Swallow
Eddy
Barrett
What to do this week
a) Parfitt to Myers if named Houston to Black/Parsons for cash.
b) Houston/Butler to Black/Parsons , Marchbank to Docherty/Simpson
c) Houston and Butler to Black and Parsons if both named.
d) Could also do Butler to Meyers via Balic to restore DPP and then maybe Houston to Black /Parsons
how many trades left??
Still have 24 Cap prior to this week.
Quote from: Ringo on May 01, 2017, 01:04:51 PM
What to do this week
a) Parfitt to Myers if named Houston to Black/Parsons for cash.
b) Houston/Butler to Black/Parsons , Marchbank to Docherty/Simpson
c) Houston and Butler to Black and Parsons if both named.
d) Could also do Butler to Meyers via Balic to restore DPP and then maybe Houston to Black /Parsons
I dont see Parfitt in your team
Docherty is a must
Does Black keep his spot after the Cats lost?
Houston to Myers in 2 weeks before his bye
Quote from: Capper on May 02, 2017, 01:58:43 AM
Quote from: Ringo on May 01, 2017, 01:04:51 PM
What to do this week
a) Parfitt to Myers if named Houston to Black/Parsons for cash.
b) Houston/Butler to Black/Parsons , Marchbank to Docherty/Simpson
c) Houston and Butler to Black and Parsons if both named.
d) Could also do Butler to Meyers via Balic to restore DPP and then maybe Houston to Black /Parsons
I dont see Parfitt in your team
Docherty is a must
Does Black keep his spot after the Cats lost?
Houston to Myers in 2 weeks before his bye
Pickett should be Parfitt.
Really struggling to decide on trades this week now with Beams out?
Options are
1) sit as have cover (except fwds) but not a favourable option as some cash cows will rise in value.
2) Parfitt to Myers and Houston to Parsons. Giving a cash bank of $280k for next week
3) Houston to Parsons only leaving Parfit to Myers until Myers on bubble
3) Parfitt/Houston to Myers/Parsons and Beams to Adams. Adams to move back when upgrading Hampton/Otten or Marchbank.
4) Houston to Parsons, Beams to Rockliff $30k remaining. Is it a week to early for Rockliff with a B/e of 205.
At the moment thinking 3 but thoughts or other options.
Why trade Houston over Parfitt?
Parfitt to Parsons, and upgrade Beams if you don't want to hold him imo
Quote from: GoLions on May 05, 2017, 12:43:38 PM
Why trade Houston over Parfitt?
Parfitt to Parsons, and upgrade Beams if you don't want to hold him imo
I have Parfitt stuck in mids with only Macrae and Dahlhaus as DPP Options. Can bring them into mids if need be but does weaken forward line considerably.
Quote from: Ringo on May 05, 2017, 01:28:38 PM
Quote from: GoLions on May 05, 2017, 12:43:38 PM
Why trade Houston over Parfitt?
Parfitt to Parsons, and upgrade Beams if you don't want to hold him imo
I have Parfitt stuck in mids with only Macrae and Dahlhaus as DPP Options. Can bring them into mids if need be but does weaken forward line considerably.
But either way you're trading in Parsons, just means Dahl is playing as a mid instead of as a forward. Next week you could easily trade someone like Houston, bring Dahl forward again, and get a mid :p
Settled on Parfitt to Parsons moving Macrae to mids and Beams to Bontempelli
Just need to decide who to play as Mid 8 out of Swallow, SPP and Balic.
Do not have forward cover though. Can bring Hampton/Williamson in if Newman does not make cut.
Like the plan, I prefer to have cover where possible, but sometimes the best option is to take the risk with no cover.
No cover due to suspensions or short term injuries is completely fair, its when they are non playing or LTI that the issues start.
Not sure what I will do just yet, Will prefer to hold Eddy, but if Hardwick is out he needs to go to avoid a donut. If I do this then downgrading Beams might be a really smart move as it means a few less trades in the upgrade phase.
Thanks LS have Nank and Eddy on foward bench so risk worth taking.
hope you haven't been destroyed by this carnage ringo
Late outs may hurt can cover a defence and mid late out but not a forward.
Rd 7 Update
Rd 7 Score 2046
Rd 7 Rank 26838
Overall Rank 5341 (Up 1176)
League Wins 6/10
Team Value $11,913,800
Trades for Rd 7
Parfitt to Parsons >:(
Beams to Bontempelli ;D
Rd 7 Team
Def: Rance. Laird, Howe, Marchbank,Williamson, Otten (Newman, Hampton)
Mids: Danger, Pendles, Kennedy, Selwood, Fyfe, Bontempelli, Swallow, Macrae (Barrett, Balic,Powell-Pepper)
Rucks: Martin, Sandilands (Strnadica)
Fwds: Dahlhaus, Franklin, Parsons, Houston, Hoskin-Elliott, Butler( Nankervis, Eddy)
The Good (Rookies who score above 60 good)
Laird, Marchbank, Bontempelli (c), Macrae, Swallow (mid pricer), Dahlhaus, Franklin,
The Average (Rookies 40 -60)
Rance, Williamson, Danger, Martin, WHE, SPP, Barrett, Otten* Hampton* Butler* Houston* Balic* (* only because starting rookies but now disappointing)
The Bad
Howe, Pendles, JPK, Selwood, Fyfe,Sandi, Parsons
DNP
Strnadica
Nankervis
Eddy
Newman
What next:
Parsons probably worth another go if named.
Hampton, Otten, Butler and Houston all will probably lose cash.
Will wait for teams to confirm but thinking these trades:
Hampton to McNiece if named (Higher B/E than Otten)
Houston to Mutimer if named (Higher B/E than Butler)
Doing this for cash generation as only 6k.
Then next week Otten to a prem defender. depending on cash Butler to a forward.
Your bye structure is superb. Myers will be on the bubble the following week, not interested??
Butler to Myers via Macrae DPP
Quote from: Capper on May 08, 2017, 01:00:50 PM
Your bye structure is superb. Myers will be on the bubble the following week, not interested??
Butler to Myers via Macrae DPP
Thought that as well.
been thinking about Hampton to McNeice and Otten to Tuohy as well. Will probably change my mind 100 times before Friday lockout.
Are you holding Swallow through his bye??
Swallow is the enigma for me so may hold during byes if I have cover and depending on his B/E. Also read an article in todays paper where Eade says he is happy to rest swallow to help extending his career,
http://www.couriermail.com.au/sport/afl/teams/gold-coast/gold-coast-could-rest-david-swallow-for-up-to-a-quarter-of-the-2017-season/news-story/a952e47695ddf9b2ee5c4515a8e1279a
"GOLD Coast are prepared to rest David Swallow for up to a quarter of the season to prolong his career, reasoning he is incapable of self-preservation."
hmmm a lot of cash wasted on the bench
Yep after reading that have to factor something in. Will probably keep till his B/e gets up there currently 44 which he should easily achieve.
Looking at a smokey fwd after Ports bye so hoping he stays down a little this week. Should have mid time especially with Gray carrying a groin injury and staying forward.
Can't fault those trades Ringo, whats the plan if Mutimer/McNiece don't get named though, go a week early on Myers? Berry?
Will reassess when teams announced if that is the case.
Latest plan and this gets rid of both Adelaide players:
Week 8
Hampton to McNiece/Berry
Otten to Tuohy Rd 12 Bye
Week 9
SPP to Myers
and maybe Houston to another rookie
Week 10
Butler to Wingard
If Swallow is rested through any of these rounds and at his ceiling will trade to ? decide at the time with byes in mind.
Surely Swallow doesnt fly 21 hours to China with the knee issues he is having.
Lynch might not play so that helps Otten. BE of 90 gets 80+ only loses a bit. Plays Dees, Lions, Dockers, Cats and Saints.
Quote from: Capper on May 10, 2017, 12:48:04 AM
Surely Swallow doesnt fly 21 hours to China with the knee issues he is having.
Lynch might not play so that helps Otten. BE of 90 gets 80+ only loses a bit. Plays Dees, Lions, Dockers, Cats and Saints.
Yeah Swallow already ruled out
Then i would trade out Hampton and Swallow
May keep Swallow depending on team announcements as I need a bit extra cash to upgrade him can only afford players below $500k if I trade him this week. Hampton definitely gone and 2nd trade dependent on teams
Edit
With Houston out and no real bench cover (Eddy Parsons) may now do the double down:
Houston to Myers a week early via Balic restoring my mid/fwd dpp
then Hampton to McNiece/Berry or Otten to Shaw/Tuohy.
Leaning towards double down.
if parsons is named will you still double down
Tough decision sammy - Think better keeping Otten than Hampton. Also Adelaide play Brisbane next week ;) so probably Otten may score more than Hampton.
Quote from: Ringo on May 10, 2017, 07:43:53 PM
Tough decision sammy - Think better keeping Otten than Hampton. Also Adelaide play Brisbane next week ;) so probably Otten may score more than Hampton.
well if hampton plays i hope he scores 100 against the lions
Ended up doing a double down - Hampton to Berry and Houston to Meyers a week early.
Have $300k in kitty now to do some upgrades.
Rd 8 Update
Rd 8 Score 2063
Rd 8 Rank 51074
Overall Rank 8194 (down 2853)
League Wins 1/10
Team Value $11,682,700
Trades for Rd 8
Hampton to Berry
Houston to Myers
Rd 7 Team
Def: Rance. Laird, Howe, Marchbank,Williamson, Newman (Berry, Otten)
Mids: Danger, Pendles, Kennedy, Selwood, Fyfe, Bontempelli, Powell-Pepper. Myers (Barrett, Swallow, Balic,)
Rucks: Martin, Sandilands (Strnadica)
Fwds: Dahlhaus, Franklin, , Macrae, Nankervis, Hoskin-Elliott, Butler( Parsons, Eddy)
The Good (Rookies who score above 60 good)
Laird, Rance, Newman, Marchbank, Berry, Danger, JPK, SPP, Martin, Sandilands, Macrae, Nankervis,
The Average (Rookies 40 -60)
Howe, Otten, Bont, Fyfe, Myers, Barrett, Franklin, WHE
The Bad
Williamson, Pendles. Selwood, Dahlhaus, Butler, Parsons
DNP
Strnadica
Swallow
Eddy
Balic
A few issues but just wondering which are major.
Butler, WHE, Otten , Williamson, Parsons and maybe Marchbank all nearing ceiling. So may cogitate for a while before deciding on Rd 9 trades as nothing stands out at the moment except maybe someone to Tuohy for bye purposes.
Byes atm 18/ 24/ 20
Prems 9/11/10
So basically trying to avoid bringing in rd11players atm.
trade out the ones with biggest breakevens eg butler.
touhy could be a good POD.
butler>yeo???
Via DPPs could go Butler to Tuohy. Just need to sort out priorities over the next 2 weeks with Port/Suns players looking at Harbrow and Wingard. (Part of bye strategies)
A couple of question marks there Doug
Missing R11 - Marchbank, Williamson, Newman, Berry, Martin, Strnadica, Kennedy, Bontempelli, Dahlhaus, Franklin, Macrae, Barrett (Swallow?? Eddy?? Balic?? Parsons??)
Missing R12 - Rance, Danger, Selwood, Strnadica, Nankervis, Parsons, Butler (Swallow?? Eddy?? Balic?? Newman??)
Missing R13 - Laird, Howe, Otten, Pendles, Sandilands, Strnadica, Fyfe, Myers, Balic, Hoskin-Elliott (Swallow?? Eddy??
Newman?? Parsons??)
Quote from: Capper on May 15, 2017, 09:27:22 PM
A couple of question marks there Doug
Missing R11 - Marchbank, Williamson, Newman, Berry, Martin, Strnadica, Kennedy, Bontempelli, Dahlhaus, Franklin, Macrae, Barrett (Swallow?? Eddy?? Balic?? Parsons??)
Missing R12 - Rance, Danger, Selwood, Strnadica, Nankervis, Parsons, Butler (Swallow?? Eddy?? Balic?? Newman??)
Missing R13 - Laird, Howe, Otten, Pendles, Sandilands, Strnadica, Fyfe, Myers, Balic, Hoskin-Elliott (Swallow?? Eddy??
Newman?? Parsons??)
Just quoting my byes from now for focus. Rd 11 is my main worry at the moment hence watching trading in Rd 11 prems. All being well and we know that plans never eventuate hope to have a port and sun prem playing as well. Harbrow/Pittard vying for a defence spot and Wingard/Dixon/Ryder for forward. Leaning towards Harbrow and Wingard at the moment.
Scheer on the bubble next week, no idea on his JS but if he plays R11-13 he will cover a donut
Quote from: Capper on May 15, 2017, 10:06:00 PM
Scheer on the bubble next week, no idea on his JS but if he plays R11-13 he will cover a donut
Scoring is garbage though haha. You could probably wait a week or 2 on him and pick him up R11 if you really need to.
Looking at trades
Butler to Yeo and then may hold as nothing stands out at the moment.
Quote from: Ringo on May 17, 2017, 05:02:24 PM
Looking at trades
Butler to Yeo and then may hold as nothing stands out at the moment.
OK so after teams announced:
Butler to Yeo
Dahlhaus to mids via Balic
Balic to Greenwood. Greenwood if playing all games will be OK to Rd 13 bye. Gone early and think Greenwood will score better than Bolton and Durdin.
Can loophole Barrett and Myers in mids and Greenwood and Parsons in forward.
Hope it does not bite me but benching Marchbank and playing Newmann, Otten and Berry. Otten playing forward with JJ dropped, Berry named on ball again leaving choice between Newmann and Marchbank.
What is Greenwood's JS like though? i got him in AF but not in SC yet
Think if he makes a show of it will stay - One of Galluci or Greenwood will go when Menzell returns imo.
Quote from: Ringo on May 19, 2017, 10:44:37 AM
Think if he makes a show of it will stay - One of Galluci or Greenwood will go when Menzell returns imo.
Menzel is no guarantee to return, been pretty poor when playing.
Quote from: TomK on May 19, 2017, 11:10:14 AM
Quote from: Ringo on May 19, 2017, 10:44:37 AM
Think if he makes a show of it will stay - One of Galluci or Greenwood will go when Menzell returns imo.
Menzel is no guarantee to return, been pretty poor when playing.
Thanks TK - Just trying to get an idea of Greenwoods JS by going early which I am probably going to do anyway.
Quote from: Ringo on May 19, 2017, 11:16:27 AM
Quote from: TomK on May 19, 2017, 11:10:14 AM
Quote from: Ringo on May 19, 2017, 10:44:37 AM
Think if he makes a show of it will stay - One of Galluci or Greenwood will go when Menzell returns imo.
Menzel is no guarantee to return, been pretty poor when playing.
Thanks TK - Just trying to get an idea of Greenwoods JS by going early which I am probably going to do anyway.
Gutsy move, hope it pays off for you
Team as it stood after Rd 9 and speaks for itself.
(https://i.gyazo.com/74167430835c4c8b10fe684a93decbb1.png)
As I have said previously rookie mistake made and missed 103 points by not checking e on Sandi. Will double check in future.
Rd9 Score 2176
Now ranked 9155 and did not drop as far as thought with the error and considering some big scores out there.
At a loss what to do now.
Thinking Marchbank down to ????? and Otten to Harbrow/Pittard.
Leaves me 16 trades and as i see it 2 defenders required, 2 mids required and 1 forward. So with down up will leave me 6 injury/luxury trades.
Gee I continue to suck at SC
Quote from: Ringo on May 22, 2017, 02:49:48 PM
Team as it stood after Rd 9 and speaks for itself.
(https://i.gyazo.com/74167430835c4c8b10fe684a93decbb1.png)
As I have said previously rookie mistake made and missed 103 points by not checking e on Sandi. Will double check in future.
Rd9 Score 2176
Now ranked 9155 and did not drop as far as thought with the error and considering some big scores out there.
At a loss what to do now.
Thinking Marchbank down to ????? and Otten to Harbrow/Pittard.
Leaves me 16 trades and as i see it 2 defenders required, 2 mids required and 1 forward. So with down up will leave me 6 injury/luxury trades.
Gee I continue to suck at SC
marchbank>mcinnes/perryman
then upgrade otten to a premo who suits your bye structure
At this stage, Marchbank to Perryman and Williamson to Harbrow. Suits bye structure and at this stage have good bye coverage. Otten could achieve break even and plays Rd 11 allowing upgrade Rd 12 - Looking at him to Docherty to complete.
Rd 10 Team: Coding black had bye, Green Rd 11 Bye, Purple Rd 12 Bye, Orange Rd 13 Bye
Def: Harbrow, Newman, Berry, Rance Laird, Howe (Otten, Perryman)
Mid: Bontempelli, Kennedy, Barrett, Dangerfield, Jelwood Pendles, Fyfe D Swallow (SPP Balic, Myers)
Ruck: Martin Sandilands ( Strnadica)
Fwds: Macrae, Dahlhaus, Franklin, Yeo, Nankervis Greenwood (Parsons WHE)
Next week will look at Barrets and Berrys B/e before deciding on trades - May not even trade unlesss needed to avoid donut as wanting Rd 11 Prems to complete team.
Sandi out this week, Nank to Rucks via DPP?
Yep - Although may consider an upgrade as O can not see Sandi going to Brisbane for Rd 12. Will Look at
Rd 10 Update:
Rd 10 Score 2175
Rd 10 Rank 28414
Overall Rank 9079 up 76
Trades:
Sandilands to Goldstein, Marchbank to Cox. Probably the worst 2 trades of my year but initial reasons good, Sandi will miss more games imo and nearing ceiling. With Cox been given 67 guernsey pretty sure he would have played. Due to Circumstances was not able to reverse the Cox trade on Friday.
Rd 10 Team:
Def: Otten, Newman, Berry, Rance Laird, Howe (Williamson, Cox)
Mid: Bontempelli, Kennedy, Barrett, Dangerfield, Jelwood Pendles, Fyfe D Swallow (SPP Balic, Myers)
Ruck: Martin Goldstein ( Strnadica)
Fwds: Macrae, Dahlhaus, Franklin, Yeo, Nankervis Greenwood (Parsons WHE)
Lot of disappointing players this week as well. With current ranking just going for the best I can so trades this week:
Williamson to Scharenberg
Berry to Tuohy
Balic to Scooter
Barrett has a low B.e and Balic not playing so getting rid of Balic removes another non scoring player.
Byes now ok as well 20/19/19 (will be 20/20/20 if Cox gets a call up)
Which of these options would you do:
Option 1
Williamson to Scharenberg
Berry to Tuohy
Balic to Scooter
or Option 2
Williamson to Scharenberg
Balic to Cousins
Barrett to Sloane.
Option 2 means I miss scooter and also heve to trade to fix Rd 13 bye.
i was contemplating Sloane as well but ruins my R13 team
Balic may come back.
I would go SPP to Scooter as Scooter will play R11 & 13 instead of SPP and score more.
How long are you holding on to Newman with a BE of 80?
Just worked out Option 3 and amazing what a time away can do:
Williamson to Scharenberg
Barrett to Scooter
WHE to Sloane via Balic - Means playing Greenwood or Parsons at F6 till final upgtrade.
Like this one.
Round 11 Update
Rd 11 Trades:
Barrett to Selwood
Williamson to Scharenberg
Balic to Bolton
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Thinking these trades pending team announcements:
Otten/Newmann to Docherty
Myers to Cousins
D Swallow to Rocky
Any other suggestions. leaving 2 Def upgrade 1 Fwd upgrade Selwood good enough atm for M8.
Definitely off Otten out of those 2 mate
Yeah i think your trades are spot on (Definitely trade Otten 1st though).
Should leave you enough cash to upgrade WHE to a forward next week and then look at Newman to Llyod the week after hopefully for profit.
Rd 12 Update as per below.
Rd 12 trades:
Myers to Cousins
Otten to Docherty
Swallow to Rockliff
VC Kennedy and C Rocky abject failures costing me dearly.
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Trading Plans and awaiting teams:
WHE to Westhoff, Wingard, Lynch or Heeney Completes forward line.
Schaz and Berry to Adams and Lloyd can wait a week or too for these as both have high B/e and both rookies achievable B/e.
leaving completed team:
Laird, Adams, Docherty, Rance, Howe, Lloyd (Newmann, Cox)
Danger, Jelwood, Bont, JPK, Rocky, Pendles, Fyfe, Scooter (SPP, Cousins, Bolton)
Martin, Goldy
Macrae, Dahlhaus, Yeo, Franklin Nankervis Wingard/Westhoff/Lynch/Heeney (Parsons, Greenwood)
Rookies may change with downgrades.
This should leave me 4/5 luxury injury trades. Fyfe is killing me like most but a bit reluctant to use one of the luxury trades now with team unfinished.
Your team is in good shape. i think you are right, fyfe is the last upgrade if needed. Maybe he just needs a rest and will fire after his bye.
Quote from: Carn on June 13, 2017, 02:20:36 PM
Your team is in good shape. i think you are right, fyfe is the last upgrade if needed. Maybe he just needs a rest and will fire after his bye.
Yeah, team looks good. Fyfe could easily come out and average 110+ after the byes.
Round 13 Update:
No trades done.
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Moved up over 4000 places during byes so reasonably happy despite the low scores.
Trades this week will depend on teams being named. Need to ascertain extent of Scooters injury as well.
Trades done today
Schaz to Witherden
SPP to Taylor Adams
Greenwood is on mid bench so hoping Scooter does not play. (Joys of playing round with team and reversing trades and not checking positions returned. Had Greenwood on field over WHE.)
Can Interchange Witherden and Berry should either be dropped.
JPK VC
If its any consolation I did the same thing, reversed last minute to get Mountford instead of Brown, didn't see that Parsons had the E. Sums up my year to be honest, all these small things have cost me big time.
Quote from: Ringo on June 23, 2017, 10:26:45 AM
Trades done today
Schaz to Witherden
SPP to Taylor Adams
Greenwood is on mid bench so hoping Scooter does not play. (Joys of playing round with team and reversing trades and not checking positions returned. Had Greenwood on field over WHE.)
Can Interchange Witherden and Berry should either be dropped.
JPK VC
Your brought in Schaz early and now bringing in Witherden early. What is his JS like??
Why not go with Ryan?? You can still move Berry in to the mids. Could have got Adams in a couple of weeks cheaper.
How are going to generate enough cash to upgrade WHE?
Made another rookie mistake forgot you can not reverse trades on Friday after Rd started. Was playing around with team and accidentally hit save so was stuck.
Always intended to bring Witherden in when named as it will be his position to lose. Been killing it in NEAFL. Berry down in a couple of weeks will assist cash flow.
Surprised you didn't go Berry to Ryan. Schaz has a lot more cash to make and should get back into the Pies squad fairly soon I would have thought.
Rd 14 Update
Trades:
Scharenberg to Witherden
SPP to Adams
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Rd 14 Team:
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Reasonably Happy
Wait on teams and injury reports before deciding on any trades if any.
Rd 15
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Did no trades - Not double checking e on Martin cost me 95 points so have now lost 215 points due to my errors in this regard over the season. Effecting overall rating so objective now to get to best possible rank.
Thinking Parsons to Stengle and WHE to Heeney. Could do Steele rather than Heeney as a cheaper option and save 80k. - Leaving me 6 trades, Awaiting Teams though.
DPP options to loophole and move with Witherden, Berry, Greenwood, Bolton.
Newman and Witherden can loophole a bit at D6 as well.
Rd 16 Update
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Rd 6 Trades:
Berry to Hibberd
WHE to Heeney
Copped a donut with JPK due to not moving Greenwood forward prior to friday's Bounce. This now makes a loss of 562 points for the season due to "rookie" errors.
Thinking of not trading this week pending injury reports and teams named.
If scooter plays this weekend are these trades 2 luxury,
Bolton to Brown to retain DPP and gain cash required.
Nank to Ryder. Ryder has a B/e of 52 this week and has a reasonable draw home. Based on averages over last 5 weeks will be gaining 27ppg which may help getting into Top 8.
Down to 4 trades though,
Rd 16 Update
No trades done
Yeo late out hurt especially with not being able to get Nanks 94 instead of Parsons 32. Oh well typical of my season.
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Thinking of these trades:
Option 1
Newman to Nyhuis
Rocky to Titchell
Option 2
Newman to Nyhuis
Cousins to Dayne Beams.
Option 1
Pros: High Scoring prem mid
Con Scooter at M/8 but can interchange with Greenwood/Witherden via DPP, Witherden at D6 probably more a pro than con.
Option 2:
Pros: Removes deadwood from bench (Cousins). Can possibly loophole Scooter and Rocky
Con: Some limiting of loopholes
Defence Bench Nyhuis and Cox a little week
Obviously will depend on injuries and teams.
Next week Parsons to Young for cash and then 3 trades for remainder of season.
Suggestions welcome.
Hmmm could you go Hibberd/Bolton/Parsons --> Any 102k rookie or Young, which would allow Newman --> Neale (via Witherden, Witherden at D6)?
Option 1 is good, but Rocky --> Titch is hard to justify IMO.
Option 2 is also good, but your midfield probably needs another one of Neale/Martin/Titch/Zerrett etc.
hold the phone...............
Pendles is a worry with his finger
Waiting on Pendles report.
Maybe Parsons to Young - or Newman to Nyhuis and Pendles to Mitchell. Hibberd out for season as well.