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AFL fantasy competitions => XVs Competitions => Topic started by: ossie85 on September 25, 2012, 02:22:31 PM

Poll
Question: How should inter-league competitions work next year?
Option 1: Only a Knock-Out Comp involving all teams from all 4 comps votes: 4
Option 2: Only a Champions League involving representatives from all 4 compts votes: 2
Option 3: Only a Champions League involving only Worlds and Euro comp this year, the rest the year after votes: 1
Option 4: Knock-Out Comp + Champions League from all 4 Comps votes: 18
Option 5: Knock-Out Comp + Champions League from Worlds and Euro votes: 13
Title: Inter-league Comps
Post by: ossie85 on September 25, 2012, 02:22:31 PM

Hi all, the other thread seems to be going a little round in circles, so how about we do a poll to decide?

Think the first poll should be what is actually going to be run next year...

Then we can decide what the rules/formats will be..

Does this sound fair to everyone?
Title: Re: Inter-league Comps
Post by: c4v3m4n on September 25, 2012, 02:32:07 PM
Quote from: ossie85 on September 25, 2012, 02:22:31 PM

Hi all, the other thread seems to be going a little round in circles, so how about we do a poll to decide?

Think the first poll should be what is actually going to be run next year...

Then we can decide what the rules/formats will be..

Does this sound fair to everyone?

Sounds good ossie. :)
Title: Re: Inter-league Comps
Post by: Colliwobblers on September 25, 2012, 05:16:06 PM
1. I think Holz should be allowed to run his knockout cup.

WHY: Every 15's team in every competition will have named a squad already for the weeks it runs. So there is ZERO extra effort involved for any coach of any team. And it is a good thing in including ALL 15's teams in an inter-15's tournament, where NOT ALL 15's teams will get to participate in the champions league - rightfully so.

2. I think STRONGLY, however c4 runs the champions league that it should TRY HARD TO include a balanced amount of teams from each 15's league, (the best of each league ) The champions, isn't that what's it's all about.....

3. I don't have any problem with the Asians and the British sitting the 2013 champions league out, although i DO think it would be all the better and more interesting and more VALID with all included.
Title: Re: Inter-league Comps
Post by: Ziplock on September 25, 2012, 05:27:35 PM
I would prefer a 4 way knock out comp, but just champs and euros for champs league (this year).
Title: Re: Inter-league Comps
Post by: tbagrocks on September 25, 2012, 05:39:55 PM
GET YOUR SUCCESS NOW OR MISS OUT

The Llamas are coming for ya, once we develope, like GWS you will all fear the Llama!
Title: Re: Inter-league Comps
Post by: monstrum on September 25, 2012, 05:40:28 PM
kinda agree with zip.. don't see who would get the call up from brittish or asians anyway?..  :-\

Title: Re: Inter-league Comps
Post by: Nails on September 25, 2012, 05:42:06 PM
I vote all 4 :o for both

Quote from: monstrum on September 25, 2012, 05:40:28 PM
kinda agree with zip.. don't see who would get the call up from brittish or asians anyway?..  :-\

It's not meant to start until like mid-season IIRC... therefore we'd have a rough idea of the best teams by then.
Title: Re: Inter-league Comps
Post by: monstrum on September 25, 2012, 05:43:30 PM
fare enough then cheers nails.

i floated my scoring idea of this ages ago when we were talking about the cross league comps..

how would the scoring work?
Title: Re: Inter-league Comps
Post by: Holz on September 25, 2012, 05:52:04 PM
Quote from: Ziplock on September 25, 2012, 05:27:35 PM
I would prefer a 4 way knock out comp, but just champs and euros for champs league (this year).

I agree with this Zip. The champions league should just be for the top 4 finishing sides of last year. Unfortunately that means no asian or British teams this year for that comp.

Thats why im strongly in favour of having the club world cup running alongside it so every team in the comp gets a shot at running in. So teams that were weak last year but have improved can have a shot at winning along with asian and british teams.

I dont see why you would be opposed to having the two. 
Title: Re: Inter-league Comps
Post by: Ziplock on September 25, 2012, 05:54:56 PM
I would say top 8 this year since there's only 2 comps
Title: Re: Inter-league Comps
Post by: c4v3m4n on September 25, 2012, 06:50:33 PM
Quote from: Colliwobblers on September 25, 2012, 05:16:06 PM
1. I think Holz should be allowed to run his knockout cup.

WHY: Every 15's team in every competition will have named a squad already for the weeks it runs. So there is ZERO extra effort involved for any coach of any team. And it is a good thing in including ALL 15's teams in an inter-15's tournament, where NOT ALL 15's teams will get to participate in the champions league - rightfully so.

2. I think STRONGLY, however c4 runs the champions league that it should TRY HARD TO include a balanced amount of teams from each 15's league, (the best of each league ) The champions, isn't that what's it's all about.....

3. I don't have any problem with the Asians and the British sitting the 2013 champions league out, although i DO think it would be all the better and more interesting and more VALID with all included.

1. What if coaches want to enter a different team in the knockout cup? :o

2. It will be the best of the best in the Champs League Colli. Wouldn't have it any other way. Had a new idea about the champions league which I think everyone can agree on. Finalists of each 15's competition from the previous year gains immediate entry into the following year's CL with the other two spots from each comp to be filled by the top teams in my ranking system as wildcard entries. :)

3. I too reckon they all should be included, but more than happy if people vote otherwise. :)
Title: Re: Inter-league Comps
Post by: Colliwobblers on September 25, 2012, 07:35:32 PM
@ c4

1. - they are welcome to enter a different line-up for the knock out cup if they choose to, but if not = ZERO EFFORT.

2. - agree with you, this sounds like the best of "all" worlds...

3. - agree with you agreeing with me.

:)
Title: Re: Inter-league Comps
Post by: Noz on September 25, 2012, 11:12:56 PM
What if we have a champions league where the top 2 from each competition qualify. For Asians and British we split into 2 groups each and have a Pre season knockout competition the 4 winners of there groups join the worlds and euro in the champions league.

Then again I think having all teams in a competition would be fun.
Title: Re: Inter-league Comps
Post by: roo boys! on September 26, 2012, 11:03:13 AM
Quote from: c4v3m4n on September 25, 2012, 06:50:33 PM


2. It will be the best of the best in the Champs League Colli. Wouldn't have it any other way. Had a new idea about the champions league which I think everyone can agree on. Finalists of each 15's competition from the previous year gains immediate entry into the following year's CL with the other two spots from each comp to be filled by the top teams in my ranking system as wildcard entries. :)

I like this idea c4!

I think KO comp + Champs league will be good, let's get them both started as soon as possible IMO!
Title: Re: Inter-league Comps
Post by: Holz on September 26, 2012, 12:26:54 PM
With 25 of 29 votes wanting the KO cup and the champs league looks like I will be running that next year. All 64 teams will be in the comp with the top 16 seeded. Battling it out over 7 weeks for glory.
Title: Re: Inter-league Comps
Post by: ossie85 on September 26, 2012, 12:32:25 PM
Quote from: Holzman on September 26, 2012, 12:26:54 PM
With 25 of 29 votes wanting the KO cup and the champs league looks like I will be running that next year. All 64 teams will be in the comp with the top 16 seeded. Battling it out over 7 weeks for glory.

6 weeks I think Holz (64 --> 32 --> 16 --> 8 -->4 --> 2)

Really looking forward to that though!
Title: Re: Inter-league Comps
Post by: Holz on September 26, 2012, 12:34:11 PM
Quote from: ossie85 on September 26, 2012, 12:32:25 PM
Quote from: Holzman on September 26, 2012, 12:26:54 PM
With 25 of 29 votes wanting the KO cup and the champs league looks like I will be running that next year. All 64 teams will be in the comp with the top 16 seeded. Battling it out over 7 weeks for glory.

6 weeks I think Holz (64 --> 32 --> 16 --> 8 -->4 --> 2)

Really looking forward to that though!

Right as usual Ossie. Looking good though. I think my Serbian eagles will get a decent seeding and are a chance to take it
Title: Re: Inter-league Comps
Post by: ossie85 on September 26, 2012, 12:41:42 PM

Thought about seeding everybody Holz? And have 1 v 64 kind of thing? Doesn't worry me either way, just curious

Maybe start a thread for this, I'm willing to call it confirmed!
Title: Re: Inter-league Comps
Post by: Holz on September 26, 2012, 05:16:37 PM
Quote from: ossie85 on September 26, 2012, 12:41:42 PM

Thought about seeding everybody Holz? And have 1 v 64 kind of thing? Doesn't worry me either way, just curious

Maybe start a thread for this, I'm willing to call it confirmed!

I have though about it. I was going to have it like the tennis and only the top quarter seeded. Than the rest just randomised. it will be so the number 1 and 2 seed will be on the opposite side of the draw so can only play in the finals. Im not opposed to seeding everyone but I would prefer only the top people get seeded.
Title: Re: Inter-league Comps
Post by: kilbluff1985 on December 16, 2012, 05:19:37 AM
do all the leagues have 18 teams? think i read somewhere one of them has 14 teams

i only ask as the league with less teams has a better chance of winning due to the teams in that league having more players to pick from
Title: Re: Inter-league Comps
Post by: Justin Bieber on December 16, 2012, 12:41:19 PM
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on December 16, 2012, 05:19:37 AM
do all the leagues have 18 teams? think i read somewhere one of them has 14 teams

i only ask as the league with less teams has a better chance of winning due to the teams in that league having more players to pick from
It's 64 team comp.

Euros has 14

British 18

Asian 16

Worlds 16 I think?

Total 64.

64 teams is a knockout like tennis. Winner moves on, loser exited.
Title: Re: Inter-league Comps
Post by: ossie85 on December 16, 2012, 12:55:53 PM

Worlds is 18, isn't one of Brits or Asia 14?
Title: Re: Inter-league Comps
Post by: Justin Bieber on December 16, 2012, 12:57:08 PM
Quote from: ossie85 on December 16, 2012, 12:55:53 PM

Worlds is 18, isn't one of Brits or Asia 14?
No.
Title: Re: Inter-league Comps
Post by: ossie85 on December 16, 2012, 01:17:08 PM

lol, well we have 66 teams :/
Title: Re: Inter-league Comps
Post by: elephants on December 16, 2012, 01:57:36 PM
Two teams to voluntarily sit out? Maybe two development teams who don't want to overplay their youg kids? ;)

Quote from: Holzman on September 26, 2012, 12:34:11 PM
Quote from: ossie85 on September 26, 2012, 12:32:25 PM
Quote from: Holzman on September 26, 2012, 12:26:54 PM
With 25 of 29 votes wanting the KO cup and the champs league looks like I will be running that next year. All 64 teams will be in the comp with the top 16 seeded. Battling it out over 7 weeks for glory.

6 weeks I think Holz (64 --> 32 --> 16 --> 8 -->4 --> 2)

Really looking forward to that though!

Right as usual Ossie. Looking good though. [ b]I think my Serbian eagles will get a decent seeding and are a chance to take it[/b]

Looks as though Belgium and Serbia will join forces as they fly the flag for the Euros XV!!
Title: Re: Inter-league Comps
Post by: Holz on December 16, 2012, 06:57:48 PM
Quote from: elephants on December 16, 2012, 01:57:36 PM
Two teams to voluntarily sit out? Maybe two development teams who don't want to overplay their youg kids? ;)

Quote from: Holzman on September 26, 2012, 12:34:11 PM
Quote from: ossie85 on September 26, 2012, 12:32:25 PM
Quote from: Holzman on September 26, 2012, 12:26:54 PM
With 25 of 29 votes wanting the KO cup and the champs league looks like I will be running that next year. All 64 teams will be in the comp with the top 16 seeded. Battling it out over 7 weeks for glory.

6 weeks I think Holz (64 --> 32 --> 16 --> 8 -->4 --> 2)

Really looking forward to that though!

Right as usual Ossie. Looking good though. [ b]I think my Serbian eagles will get a decent seeding and are a chance to take it[/b]

Looks as though Belgium and Serbia will join forces as they fly the flag for the Euros XV!!

Serbian bashers would be solo overpowered.

I think most and I would be the scariest though.

Swan ablett pendles lids Boyd barlow would be crazy.
Title: Re: Inter-league Comps
Post by: Justin Bieber on December 16, 2012, 07:02:32 PM
Maybe tbags Asian team? It will come last? Lol
Title: Re: Inter-league Comps
Post by: JBs-Hawks on December 16, 2012, 07:24:57 PM
And your British team  :P
Title: Re: Inter-league Comps
Post by: Justin Bieber on December 16, 2012, 07:27:06 PM
Quote from: JBs-Hawks on December 16, 2012, 07:24:57 PM
And your British team  :P
Lol if you think I have a bad team... Better than yours ::)

:)
Title: Re: Inter-league Comps
Post by: tbagrocks on December 16, 2012, 08:13:54 PM
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Title: Re: Inter-league Comps
Post by: elephants on December 16, 2012, 10:03:00 PM
Quote from: Holzman on December 16, 2012, 06:57:48 PM
Quote from: elephants on December 16, 2012, 01:57:36 PM
Two teams to voluntarily sit out? Maybe two development teams who don't want to overplay their youg kids? ;)

Quote from: Holzman on September 26, 2012, 12:34:11 PM
Quote from: ossie85 on September 26, 2012, 12:32:25 PM
Quote from: Holzman on September 26, 2012, 12:26:54 PM
With 25 of 29 votes wanting the KO cup and the champs league looks like I will be running that next year. All 64 teams will be in the comp with the top 16 seeded. Battling it out over 7 weeks for glory.

6 weeks I think Holz (64 --> 32 --> 16 --> 8 -->4 --> 2)

Really looking forward to that though!

Right as usual Ossie. Looking good though. [ b]I think my Serbian eagles will get a decent seeding and are a chance to take it[/b]

Looks as though Belgium and Serbia will join forces as they fly the flag for the Euros XV!!

Serbian bashers would be solo overpowered.

I think most and I would be the scariest though.

Swan ablett pendles lids Boyd barlow would be crazy.

Your mids and ruckmen, our forwards and depth. The backline? Well.. Gibbs, God, Stanley, Birch ;)
Title: Re: Inter-league Comps
Post by: Maca24 on December 16, 2012, 10:11:12 PM
We need to factor in that leagues with 16 teams will have stronger teams than the 18 team league of worlds.
Title: Re: Inter-league Comps
Post by: BB67th on December 16, 2012, 10:22:39 PM
I think that if you are mulitplying the scores by a factor which gives an even average to all of the comps scores, you are taking in all of the factors as teams are already scoring to a degree based on the strength and numbers of their competition.
Title: Re: Inter-league Comps
Post by: Holz on December 16, 2012, 11:12:46 PM
Quote from: BB67th on December 16, 2012, 10:22:39 PM
I think that if you are mulitplying the scores by a factor which gives an even average to all of the comps scores, you are taking in all of the factors as teams are already scoring to a degree based on the strength and numbers of their competition.

Yep that's it I'm using a weighting system which should give everyone a fair chance. The British teams will score the most and the euro the least but this will all be accounted for.
Title: Re: Inter-league Comps
Post by: Ziplock on December 16, 2012, 11:20:35 PM
the weighting is done basically by comparing teams in your own competition (euros compared to other eurs,british to other british), to deviswe a weighting system meaning that the higher scoring of some comps and thedifferent number of teams in others won't actually affect the game play.