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Hello all coaches of WXV,

I've decided to run a trial period during the offseason where we can try out new rules and new players! A few of the rules we will be using/trying:



Rules:
Nominations:
- Name only 15 as there is no need for emergencies. 1 Captain and VC.

Structure:
- You can FLOOD or ATTACK as often as you want.
If you have 5 forwards against the opposition 4 defenders, each forward gets +10% and the opposition defender loses 15%
If you have 5 forwards against the opposition 3 defenders, each forward gets +15% and the opposition defender loses 20%
If you have 4 forwards against the opposition 3 defenders, each forward gets +5% and the opposition defender loses 10%
Vice-versa.
If you have the same amount of forwards/defenders, no penalty.

Tagging:
- Nominate a player to tag a player of the same position. The tagger loses 15% just for playing a tagging role. The player being tagged loses 5% for the difference in TACKLES the tagger makes VS the tagged player. BUT if the player being tagged has the same or more tackles than the tagger, he breaks the tag and receives no penalty, while the tagger still loses 15%.
- Tagger loses 50% of their score. The player getting tagged loses 40%. Again players must be in the same position. BANNED!
As the coach if you choose to employ a tag, you then choose which of these two options you'd like to use.

Ruck OOP:
- If you name a player OOP in the ruck you still lose 50% of the score (as has always been the case). BUT, if that player is less than 190cm, not only do you lose 50% of your score, the opposition ruck gains 25%.

Form and Confidence:
- If you have a player that has increased his score for 3 weeks in a row, his next score gets a +10% confidence bonus (must have played all matches consecutively)
- If you have a player that has decreased his score for 3 weeks in a row, his next score gets a -10% confidence penalty (must have played all matches consecutively).

Mid-Match Tactics:
- This is something I've just thought of and decided to test it out. Prior to the game the coach can select one player they have named and one of the following:
- "Limit" A selected forward moves down back at the end of quarters to consolidate the teams position. That player receives a +3 bonus for each goal they kick.
- "3rd" A selected midfielder helps his ruckman out. The midfielder receives a +1 for each hitout that the ruckman loses to the other by.
- "Bigman" If you name a ruck in you interchange, you can move him forward and he receives +6 for every goal they kick.
- "Takeover" A selected defender plays their heart out. That player receives +1 for each percent over 85% disposal efficiency they have.
These can not be used on your captain.

Others:
- There will be no HGA.
- I may choose to add a weather element in later but at this stage I'm not 100% about it.



Basically you simply name a 15 man team then Levi will apply an Advanced Randomised Score to each player. These scores will be derived from all of that players 2016 scores as well as some scores where they are passed through a secret formula involving standard deviation. Levi then has some other secrets in store for these simulated matchups tehehe.

Hopefully we can have 5-6 games so there is room to use the "Form Confidence Rule." Before we start in a few weeks, I'll also let people suggest other rules we can try out.

Let us know if you're interested. Basically as a try out for some of the rules that weren't voted in, but will also give a chance to test out your new team and see if any adjustments need to be made. :)

Submit the team and then if you are going to make any changes just re-post and don't edit your original.

*puts hand up*

Love the concept of mid-match tactics btw

Quote from: Purple 77 on October 02, 2016, 07:39:17 PM
*puts hand up*

Love the concept of mid-match tactics btw

Agreed p. Love the idea but is there any limit to it? Right now, there's nothing to lose should you use it every week. Unlike Tagging, where there is a risk,

Quote from: Levi434 on October 02, 2016, 07:22:29 PM
Basically you simply name a 15 man team then Levi will apply an Advanced Randomised Score to each player. These scores will be derived from all of that players 2016 scores as well as some scores where they are passed through a secret formula involving standard deviation. Levi then has some other secrets in store for these simulated matchups tehehe.

So we wouldn't be able to name Heppell and Jaeger? :'(

Great idea!

Have all SC scores from 2012 on hand if you wanted them

If we're using random old scores can we draft some retired players too? Juddy would fit into the midfield very nicely.

Can I draft Nathan Buckley and Brad Johnson? No WXV history but have SC history. Could have an entirely new redraft with all players from 2006 onwards. Would be cool but heaps of work.

Quote from: Levi434 on October 03, 2016, 12:26:17 AM

Quote from: Jukes on October 02, 2016, 09:59:51 PM

Quote from: Levi434 on October 02, 2016, 07:22:29 PM
Basically you simply name a 15 man team then Levi will apply an Advanced Randomised Score to each player. These scores will be derived from all of that players 2016 scores as well as some scores where they are passed through a secret formula involving standard deviation. Levi then has some other secrets in store for these simulated matchups tehehe.

So we wouldn't be able to name Heppell and Jaeger? :'(

For those sort of players I'll use past scores etc. Players that were injured, suspended.

That's the beauty of summer league! Fyfe is never injured and Nic Nat is still fit! God is at 100% There shouldn't be problems with naming a team!

Great, I'll take 2012 Nic Nat thanks ;)

Quote from: meow meow on October 03, 2016, 03:57:57 PM
Can I draft Nathan Buckley and Brad Johnson? No WXV history but have SC history. Could have an entirely new redraft with all players from 2006 onwards. Would be cool but heaps of work.

I swear Oss proposed something like this a couple years back, I'd go look for it but ain't nobody got time fo dat

Quote from: meow meow on October 03, 2016, 03:31:19 PM
If we're using random old scores can we draft some retired players too? Juddy would fit into the midfield very nicely.

I guess we could add retired players. But I guess the main point is to try out the new rules with your team and see how it affects the comp. I don't think there will be a benefit if everyone just has amazing teams. Aren't these new rules introduced to try and create an element of strategy rather than just who has the better team?

Quote from: meow meow on October 03, 2016, 03:57:57 PM
Can I draft Nathan Buckley and Brad Johnson? No WXV history but have SC history. Could have an entirely new redraft with all players from 2006 onwards. Would be cool but heaps of work.

This sounds awesome! Again I guess there isn't a problem with this but as you said it would be a lot of work.

Maybe each team can have one player of their choice from the past then perhaps I'll introduce a feature where you can "rest" a few of your starters by trading them in to me and I'll give you a player of similar caliber in return. Thoughts on that?

So basically you can say: "I'll take Gary Ablett Sr. as my free player and I'd like to rest Patrick Cripps cause he is such a beauty and a beast."
Then I'll list a few possible players that you can choose from; "Chris Judd, Daniel Kerr, Scott West, Simon Black."

What do you think?

P.S. Jukes you can have 2017 Nic Nat :P Will score very well I guarantee. Nah just like all players, they will be passed through my advanced spreadsheet to determine their score.

Great concept Levi! count me in.

5 coaches in so far. Has anyone got a preference as to when we should start this?

Levi
Purple
Torp/Jukes
Meow
Adamant

Sorry if I've missed it but when does this start? Vin and I would be in if it starts after exams in like 5 weeks

Ps. Hope ur alright with that vin lel

No preference when it starts :)

Quote from: iZander on October 05, 2016, 04:50:21 PM
Sorry if I've missed it but when does this start? Vin and I would be in if it starts after exams in like 5 weeks

Ps. Hope ur alright with that vin lel

Haven't set a date yet but that sounds fair. I think a few would also be in a similar boat. So in a few weeks when exams/uni are done we can start it up!

Quote from: Levi434 on October 05, 2016, 04:53:58 PM

Quote from: iZander on October 05, 2016, 04:50:21 PM
Sorry if I've missed it but when does this start? Vin and I would be in if it starts after exams in like 5 weeks

Ps. Hope ur alright with that vin lel

Haven't set a date yet but that sounds fair. I think a few would also be in a similar boat. So in a few weeks when exams/uni are done we can start it up!

Sweet! count us in then!

Quote from: Levi434 on October 02, 2016, 07:22:29 PM

- Tagger loses 50% of their score. The player getting tagged loses 40%. Again players must be in the same position.

This rule is as broken as Fyfe's leg.

So I've decided to hit it with the ban.
Reasoning: Gary Ablett scores 142 but is tagged. His score now becomes 85. That is -57 points. Too many I recon.
Another example: Kade Kolodjashnij scores 123 whilst being tagged. His score now becomes 74. This one is -49.

Good move

All good and well to have all kinds of rules but when the fabric of the scoring is too impacted the end result ends up becoming bogus based off unique iffy rules and not a reflection of the straight up head to head battle

Quote from: iZander on October 05, 2016, 06:08:47 PM

Quote from: Levi434 on October 05, 2016, 04:53:58 PM

Quote from: iZander on October 05, 2016, 04:50:21 PM
Sorry if I've missed it but when does this start? Vin and I would be in if it starts after exams in like 5 weeks

Ps. Hope ur alright with that vin lel

Haven't set a date yet but that sounds fair. I think a few would also be in a similar boat. So in a few weeks when exams/uni are done we can start it up!

Sweet! count us in then!

Yeah I'm down, sounds mad!

This looks like it will be good fun!

I'll take over as the summer coach for NDT, will be a good chance to get familiar with the players and team structures!

Lets start this soon! 8)

Here are the current coaches in. I'm quite happy with 8 but if anyone wants to join I could probably expand to 10 or 12.

Berlin Brewers - Purple77
Moscow Spetsnaz -  Jukes and Torp
Christchurch Saints -  meow
Toronto Wolves - Adamant
Buenos Aires Armadillos -  Vinny and iZander 
New York Revolution - RaisyDaisy   
New Delhi Tigers: BB
Rio de Janeiro Jaguars - Levi

I'd like to start the first game on Sunday. So if no other coaches join in the next 24 hours I'll post the fixtures and then we can go from there.

I have no clue what is happening but Dublin is in

When did we say we were in?

Like Holz, I got no real idea about what's happening here, but if you need us in then cool

Quote from: RaisyDaisy on November 03, 2016, 05:58:23 PM
When did we say we were in?

Like Holz, I got no real idea about what's happening here, but if you need us in then cool

Just assumed you were in after commenting earlier ahaha ;D

Have an exam on Monday, but I'd be lying if I said I didn't have time for this.

Quote from: Levi434 on November 03, 2016, 05:38:05 PM
Lets start this soon! 8)

Here are the current coaches in. I'm quite happy with 8 but if anyone wants to join I could probably expand to 10 or 12.

Berlin Brewers - Purple77
Moscow Spetsnaz -  Jukes and Torp
Christchurch Saints -  meow
Toronto Wolves - Adamant
Buenos Aires Armadillos -  Vinny and iZander 
New York Revolution - RaisyDaisy   
New Delhi Tigers: BB
Rio de Janeiro Jaguars - Levi

I'd like to start the first game on Sunday. So if no other coaches join in the next 24 hours I'll post the fixtures and then we can go from there.

Ill have to withdraw unfortunately, dont finish exams till Tuesday and i really dont have the time, unless Vinny does but think he might be in exams atm as well???

iZander

Zander if you want I'll name your team for week 1 then you can take over after that?

So why do teams actually need to nominate to play this?

Aren't you just using averages plus your own  stuff to make up scores?

Not sure why we even need to nominate or enter a team?

Quote from: RaisyDaisy on November 03, 2016, 07:43:42 PM
So why do teams actually need to nominate to play this?

Aren't you just using averages plus your own  stuff to make up scores?

Not sure why we even need to nominate or enter a team?

Pretty much just name your team, captains, tagging etc and see first hand how the new rules work.

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I would recommend submitting your team like this:

Team Name: WXV Legends
Structure: Standard
Tagging: Kane Mitchell tagging Chris Judd
Mid-Match: "Limit" tactic for Matthew Pavlich

D: Danny Stanley, Nick Dal Santo, Troy Chaplin, Jed Adcock
M: Dane Swan(C), Matthew Stokes, Kane Mitchell, Brent Harvey
R: David Hale(VC)
F: Andrew Walker, Adam Cooney, Matthew Pavlich, Drew Petrie
I: James Gwilt, Xavier Ellis

Take a quick look over the rules in the OP before submitting just to be certain though.

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These players are in hot form and will receive a +10% confidence bonus:
Jack Steven
Joel Selwood
Aaron Hall
Sebastian Ross
Travis Boak
Dyson Heppell
Daniel Wells
Mitch Duncan

For these players to continue their hot-streak they need to score a 95.

These players are in cold form and will receive a -10% form penalty:
Steve Johnson
Justin Westhoff
Mason Wood
Jeremy Cameron
Nathan Hrovat
Joe Daniher
Toby McLean
Daniel Menzel

For these players to break their cold streak they need to score 80.

*Note all these players are "randomly" generated.

Once everyone has submitted their team, we can start! Lets go!

It seems like a bit of a disadvantage to name a team first. Knowing if the other team is attacking/flooding or if they're tagging a player can give you an advantage in selecting your team.

Maybe we should pm teams to Levi and he can post them all up after all have been submitted?

Quote from: Levi434 on November 03, 2016, 07:07:43 PM
Zander if you want I'll name your team for week 1 then you can take over after that?

That would be awesome mate!!!

(sorry for the late reply)

Quote from: BB67th on November 05, 2016, 05:19:05 PM
It seems like a bit of a disadvantage to name a team first. Knowing if the other team is attacking/flooding or if they're tagging a player can give you an advantage in selecting your team.

Maybe we should pm teams to Levi and he can post them all up after all have been submitted?

You can edit your team after posting though. So it's not set in stone. I'll set the lockout for Monday midday so any changes made after that won't be counted.

Actually just submit the team and then if you are going to make any changes just re-post and don't edit your original.

Quote from: iZander on November 05, 2016, 05:23:48 PM

Quote from: Levi434 on November 03, 2016, 07:07:43 PM
Zander if you want I'll name your team for week 1 then you can take over after that?

That would be awesome mate!!!

(sorry for the late reply)

Ok so we'll have Buenos VS The Legends team  8)

So a player doesn't have have
to be DPP to use "Limit" or "Bigman"?

Quote from: Levi434 on November 05, 2016, 06:25:44 PM

Quote from: iZander on November 05, 2016, 05:23:48 PM

Quote from: Levi434 on November 03, 2016, 07:07:43 PM
Zander if you want I'll name your team for week 1 then you can take over after that?

That would be awesome mate!!!

(sorry for the late reply)

Ok so we'll have Buenos VS The Legends team  8)

Dillos playing themselves?

Quote from: Torpedo10 on November 05, 2016, 06:52:28 PM
So a player doesn't have have
to be DPP to use "Limit" or "Bigman"?

Correct. They don't need to have DPP but need to be named in the appropriate spot. E.g. Bigman needs to be a ruck on the IC. Limit needs to be a forward listed in the forwards.

How the scores have been worked:

Each of that players scores over the last 2 years(that they have played) are within a spreadsheet. Each one of these scores has that players standard deviation attached to it either way.

For example:
Dean Cox scored 100 in a random round. His standard deviation is 20. So his scores become 80 - 100 - 120. Then each score in between the top and bottom numbers are included. So Dean Cox has a score anything between 80-120.

This is done to every round. So there are around 2000 possible scores per player.

Rio de Janeiro Jaguars:

Structure: Standard
Tagging: Ben Jacobs tagging Robbie Gray
Mid-Match: Limit tactic for Jack Watts

D: Matthew Boyd, Brayden Maynard, Jackson Ramsay, Aaron Francis
M: Gary Ablett(C), Ben Jacobs, Johnathan O'Rourke, Lewis Jetta
R: Will Minson(VC)
F: Jack Watts, Daniel Rioli, Gary Rohan, Cameron Pedersen
I: Elliot Yeo, Shaun McKernan

Got no Premiership players in the team. They need a break after their efforts in the finals.

Team Name: WXV Legends
Structure: Flood
Tagging: Kane Mitchell tagging Scott Pendlebury
Mid-Match: "Limit" tactic for Matthew Pavlich

D: Danny Stanley, Nick Dal Santo, Troy Chaplin, Jed Adcock, Andrew Walker
M: Dane Swan(C), Matthew Stokes, Kane Mitchell, Brent Harvey
R: David Hale(VC)
F: Adam Cooney, Matthew Pavlich, Drew Petrie
I: James Gwilt, Xavier Ellis

Team Name: Buenos Aires Armadillos
Structure: Flood
Tagging: Trent Dumont tagging Dane Swan
Mid-Match: Takeover for Easton Wood

D: Cale Hooker, Easton Wood, Zach Tuohy, Shane Biggs, Shaun Atley
M: Scott Pendlebury(C), Ed Curnow(VC), Isaac Smith, Trent Dumont
R: Tom Nicholls
F: Harley Bennell, Jamie Elliot, Shane Edwards
I: Richard Douglas, Andrejs Everitt

Berlin "2017 premiership or bust" Brewers

Structure: Flood
Tagging: Daniel Talia tagging Alex Rance
Mid-Match: "Limit" tactic for Lance Franklin

D: Michael Hibbed, Jamie MacMillan, Shaun Burgoyne, Daniel Talia, Michael Johnson
M: Nat Fyfe (C), Jack Steven, Tom Liberatore, Jack Viney
R: Max Gawn (VC)
F: Lance Franklin, Michael Walters, Mark LeCras
I: Jobe Watson, Stephen Hill

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Dan Talia has a pretty awful history, so why not embrace his awful score and make him a tagger?

I also had to check the STDEV and averages of Fyfe and Gawn just to make sure :P Fyfe won't be scoring less than 91, which is nice.

Here's hoping Buddy kicks a bag.

Stevie J also gets dropped for his poor form

That tagging thing doesn't make sense does it? Oh well.

Fyfe has an equal chance of scoring 203 as he does 15.

ahaha SJ. ;D

Quote from: Levi434 on November 06, 2016, 12:43:34 PM
That tagging thing doesn't make sense does it? Oh well.

For mids it makes more sense. But defenders should really only tag forwards and vice versa I guess :P and probably call it something else like "Shut-down" or something. But hey, this is what this comp is all about, ironing out the issues and testing things  8)

Surely tagging can only occur in the mids.

Quote from: meow meow on November 06, 2016, 04:17:01 PM
Surely tagging can only occur in the mids.

Probably a modification we can make in future weeks but for now we'll leave it.

Team Name: New York Revolution
Structure: Standard
Mid-Match: "Limit" tactic for Josh J Kennedy
Mid-Match: "3rd" tactic for Jordan Lewis

B: David Mundy, Josh Gibson, Tom McDonald, Shannon Hurn
M: Jordan Lewis (VC), Mitch Duncan (C), Tom Scully, David Armitage
R: Kurt Tippett
F: Josh J Kennedy, Isaac Heeney, Liam Picken, Daniel Menzel
I: Dom Tyson, Shaun Grigg

Starting Menzel even though he has a cold streak - reckon he can go 80+ to avoid the 10% loss
Duncan gets the C as he has +10% form confidence
Lewis loves being 3rd man up so we'll adopt the 3rd tactic there too
Assuming Mundy and Picken get DPP, which is fine for this trial

:)

I think you might only be able to put in one lot of mid-match tactics RD.

Here's the team for New Delhi.

Team Name: New Delhi Tigers
Structure: Standard
Tagging: Jack Ziebell tagging Gary Ablett
Mid-Match: "Limit" tactic for Jeremy Cameron

D: Bachar Houli, Jeremy Howe, Hamish Hartlett, Nick Vlastuin
M: Robbie Gray (C), Steele Sidebottom (VC), Marc Murphy, Jack Ziebell
R: Stefan Martin
F: Jack Darling, Jack Martin, Travis Cloke, Jeremy Cameron
I: Matt Crouch, Seb Ross


I'll back Cameron to overcome his poor form and kick a bag.
The team is looking quite strong, I'm backing NDT to take this competition out ;)

Ahh OK, didn't see that it was limited to one tactic. We'll remove the 3rd tactic.

Once Meow names his team I might add a Tag in, just because we might as well trial as many new rules as possible, but for now it's just JJK LIMIT and Duncan Form Boost

Team Name: New York Revolution
Structure: Standard
Mid-Match: "Limit" tactic for Josh J Kennedy

B: David Mundy, Josh Gibson, Tom McDonald, Shannon Hurn
M: Jordan Lewis (VC), Mitch Duncan (C), Tom Scully, David Armitage
R: Kurt Tippett
F: Josh J Kennedy, Isaac Heeney, Liam Picken, Daniel Menzel
I: Dom Tyson, Shaun Grigg

Gibbs tagging Monday
Waite limit

B: Joe Montagna, Bob, Dempster, Lever, McVeigh
M: Gibbs, Mitchell (vc), Fiorini (c), Wells
R: Sandilands
F: Waite, Higgo, Boyd
I: Griffen, Masten

Team Name: Toronto Wolves
Tagging: Scott Selwood tagging Dyson Heppell
Mid-Match: Takeover for Brodie Smith

D: Brodie Smith, Shane Savage, Jack Grimes (c), Riley Bonner
M: Jackson Macrae, Travis Boak (vc), Pearce Hanley, Mitch Wallis
R: Matthew Kreuzer
F: Taylor Walker, Jordan De Goey, Nathan Hrovat, Lewis Taylor
I: Scott Selwood, Sam Kerridge

OP says tagger needs to be from same position so can Gibbs tag Mundy seeing as we have him in def?

Quote from: RaisyDaisy on November 06, 2016, 08:01:02 PM
Ahh OK, didn't see that it was limited to one tactic. We'll remove the 3rd tactic.

Once Meow names his team I might add a Tag in, just because we might as well trial as many new rules as possible, but for now it's just JJK LIMIT and Duncan Form Boost

Team Name: New York Revolution
Structure: Standard
Mid-Match: "Limit" tactic for Josh J Kennedy

B: David Mundy, Josh Gibson, Tom McDonald, Shannon Hurn
M: Jordan Lewis (VC), Mitch Duncan (C), Tom Scully, David Armitage
R: Kurt Tippett
F: Josh J Kennedy, Isaac Heeney, Liam Picken, Daniel Menzel
I: Dom Tyson, Shaun Grigg

Liam Picken to tag Higgins

Team Name: Dublin
Tagging: Sloane Tags Fyfe (Sloane a Tackle Machine)
Mid-Match: Jroo - Limit

D: Alex Rance, Chris Yarran, Grant Birchall
M: J.Selwood (C), A.Treloar, B.Crouch, R.Sloane
R: T.Goldstein (VC)
F: J.Gunston, J.Roo, J.Westhoff, D.Martin, M.Daw
I: N.Jones, K.Jack

Quote from: Adamant on November 07, 2016, 01:25:45 AM
Team Name: Toronto Wolves
Tagging: Scott Selwood tagging Dyson Heppell
Mid-Match: Takeover for Brodie Smith

D: Brodie Smith, Shane Savage, Jack Grimes (c), Riley Bonner
M: Jackson Macrae, Travis Boak (vc), Pearce Hanley, Mitch Wallis
R: Matthew Kreuzer
F: Taylor Walker, Jordan De Goey, Brendon Ah Chee, Shane Kersten
I: Scott Selwood, Sam Kerridge

Ah Chee and Kersten in for Hrovat and Taylor.

Gibbs to tag Lewis then.

Pretty sure every team has submitted now.

First game is tomorrow! 8)

Quote from: Adamant on November 07, 2016, 01:25:45 AM
Team Name: Toronto Wolves
Tagging: Scott Selwood tagging Dyson Heppell
Mid-Match: Takeover for Brodie Smith

D: Brodie Smith, Shane Savage, Jack Grimes (c), Riley Bonner
M: Jackson Macrae, Travis Boak (vc), Pearce Hanley, Mitch Wallis
R: Matthew Kreuzer
F: Taylor Walker, Jordan De Goey, Nathan Hrovat, Lewis Taylor
I: Scott Selwood, Sam Kerridge

Can Scotty tag Hepp if Hepp goes in Mids and Scotty is on the interchange?

Also, could I choose to tag Scotty if he's tagging, or even tag him with Hepp to cancel it out?

Quote from: Torpedo10 on November 07, 2016, 04:26:10 PM

Quote from: Adamant on November 07, 2016, 01:25:45 AM
Team Name: Toronto Wolves
Tagging: Scott Selwood tagging Dyson Heppell
Mid-Match: Takeover for Brodie Smith

D: Brodie Smith, Shane Savage, Jack Grimes (c), Riley Bonner
M: Jackson Macrae, Travis Boak (vc), Pearce Hanley, Mitch Wallis
R: Matthew Kreuzer
F: Taylor Walker, Jordan De Goey, Nathan Hrovat, Lewis Taylor
I: Scott Selwood, Sam Kerridge

Can Scotty tag Hepp if Hepp goes in Mids and Scotty is on the interchange?

Also, could I choose to tag Scotty if he's tagging, or even tag him with Hepp to cancel it out?

I don't see any problem as long as the players are the official same position? It really makes no difference if Selwood and Wallis are swapped around.

And yes to both of the 2nd part.

Moscow Spetsnaz:

Structure: Standard
Hogan for Limit

D: Sam Docherty (VC), Steven May, Jack Hombsch, Lynden Dunn
M: Dyson Heppell (C), Stephen Coniglio Jack Crisp, Jaeger O'Meara
R: Nic Naitanui
F: Jesse Hogan, Tom Bell, Angus Monfries, Tom Bellchambers
I: Sam Menegola, Ryan "King" Bastinac

Preview:
What a rivalry this has been over the years. Obviously Berlin looking to bounce back after a horror season and Dublin out to prove they are still amongst WXV’s elite teams. It seemed like only a few days ago the WXV Grand Final was on but here we about to get the season underway with some “friendly” Summer League action.

Are we surprise that these teams have seemingly gone full strength? Perhaps Berlin itching for some action after not playing finals? Wouldn’t want to risk injury if I was any team in the comp. In fact I would take this opportunity to get some games in the young legs of my players. Perhaps we’ll see that later on and particularly after the draft.

We’re nearly underway here in the first Summer League matchup and it looks as though the tactics have already started! Berlin coach Purple 77 decided to withdraw Steve Johnson and play Daniel Talia. But it seems Dublin coach, Holz has countered that defensive shift by moving Dustin Martin who apparently is still a forward up there.

It looks as though Talia is going to do a job on Rance? A gun defender tagging another? It could work. In the middle the tackling machine Rory Sloane has moved across to Fyfe and he will tag the Berlin captain. In terms of Dublin’s captain, they’ve gone with the player in hot form, Joel Selwood. We’ll have to wait and see what sort of mid-match tactics each coach employs but it seems like Holz has persisted with the out of form Westhoff.


The Game:


Recap:
Daniel Talia went to Rance and did the job on him. Rance loses 5% per each of the 5 extra tackles Talia made meaning a 25% drop! What a game by Talia! Whilst his 95 will only get cut by 15%. Although the damage is probably not as deep as it could have been as Rance was only able to muster up 66 SC which goes down to 50. Overall Talia lost 14 to Rance losing 16.

Fyfe the Berlin saviour scored 108 meaning he gets that doubled but since he was tagged by Rory Sloane, means Fyfe loses 10% of his score as Sloane had 2 more tackles than him. However this is only 10% off the original not off the captain score. So Fyfe gets 98 + 108 = 206 total.

Jack Steven was on a hot streak coming in here and despite only getting 77 his streak takes him to 85. However, he won’t have the hot streak bonus for next round.

Berlin were up big approaching half-time and looked to consolidate their lead. They sent Buddy down back as a 6th defender and it payed big dividends. He took a few crucial marks to prevent Dublin from taking the momentum into the main break. Buddy gets a +3x3 as he kicked 3 goals.

Joel Selwood will continue his hot streak into next week with a huge 124 as Dublin’s captain. Combine that with the +13 he gets from the streak and you’ve got 261.

J. Roo kicked 2 goals with his left but at the very end of the game with Dublin only leading by 4 points, they sent him down back to provide an extra number and he did his job taking a crucial junk-time +6 Heath Shaw-like performance.

Westhoff breaks his cold-streak for next game with 94 but he still gets the -10% this week. He finishes on 85.

Great way to kick off the Summer League and I am very much looking forward to seeing what happens next!

Final Score:
Berlin 1370
Dublin 1440

Up Next:
We have the second game of our double-headed. Rio VS New Dehli as we get into the 1st ever Summer League! It's getting hot.

Amazing write up, just a clarification on the tagging

"Nominate a player to tag a player of the same position. The tagger loses 15% just for playing a tagging role. The player being tagged loses 5% for each TACKLE the tagger makes. BUT if the player being tagged has the same or more tackles than the tagger, he breaks the tag and receives no penalty, while the tagger still loses 15%"

I didnt know it was the difference in the tagging, it makes much more sense though just think this above rule needs to be reworded.

That was an awesome read  :D

Daniel Talia again proving why he received the WXVs 2016 Coaches Award.

Fyfe, Steven and Viney let me down  :-\

The amount of effort to get all those stats is beyond me btw.

Do my defenders get bonuses btw coz I flooded?

Quote from: Holz on November 08, 2016, 01:43:24 PM
Amazing write up, just a clarification on the tagging

"Nominate a player to tag a player of the same position. The tagger loses 15% just for playing a tagging role. The player being tagged loses 5% for each TACKLE the tagger makes. BUT if the player being tagged has the same or more tackles than the tagger, he breaks the tag and receives no penalty, while the tagger still loses 15%"

I didnt know it was the difference in the tagging, it makes much more sense though just think this above rule needs to be reworded.

Yep I'll reword that. The difference is what I was thinking the whole time. Basically because if a player has a day and gets 15 tackles then the player they tag lose 75% of their score. Unrealistic.

Quote from: Purple 77 on November 08, 2016, 01:43:37 PM
That was an awesome read  :D

Daniel Talia again proving why he received the WXVs 2016 Coaches Award.

Fyfe, Steven and Viney let me down  :-\

The amount of effort to get all those stats is beyond me btw.

Do my defenders get bonuses btw coz I flooded?

They would have but Holz counteracted that flood by attacking and playing an extra forward. So since both positions we equal there are no bonuses.

Preview:
A rematch of the 2016 WXV Grand Final here at the Summer League. Jaguars coach Levi, playing it safe by not rushing his Premiership heroes back. Whilst new NDT Assistant Coach, who has been given the reigns looks to extract a measure of revenge.

New Dehli have made new recruit Robbie Gray their captain in this one but Rio are definitely glad to have the number 1 tagger Ben Jacobs back and ready to take on Robbie in this one. On the other end Jack Ziebell who is yet another new recruit looks to be going to the returning Gary Ablett. Who of course is Rio’s captain in the absence of Cripps here today.

Both teams have kept their team structure looking standard at this stage but perhaps we’ll see some of those advanced in-game tactics which we saw in the first of this double-header?

We’re nearly underway here but we have to address the controversy surrounding this match-up. Many are wondering why Rio didn’t send a few of it’s gun over and have speculated that it’s due to them still partying from the Premiership? This of course means both Rio’s hot(Aaron Hall) and cold(Mason Wood) players aren’t here.

Equal pressure has been put on internally at The Tigers as Stand-in Coach BB67th stated he was backing them to take out the comp. Well it looks like Summer League title or bust for the New look New Dehli. They have backed Cameron to overcome his cold streak and of course have played the in form Seb Ross.



The Game:



Recap:
Rio stood not much chance in this one against a much stronger New Dehli. So they decided to take their captain Gary Ablett out of the game in the 4th to rest him for later. Apparently it was because Jack Ziebell was giving him a few hits off the ball which will be looked at by the MRP.

Ablett finished on 109 as captain but of course he was tagged meaning his score goes to 15% less as Ziebell had 3 more tackles than him. Which is 93. Meaning The Champ finishes on 93 + 109 = 202. Ziebell as tagger also then loses 15% meaning he finishes on 78. Overall GAJ lost 16 and Ziebell lost 13.

The Number 1 Tagger Ben Jacobs tagged Robbie Gray to a measly 120. Gary loses 15% has Jacobs had 5 tackles to Gray’s 3. Gray finishes on 108 but as captain he gets 228 overall. Jacobs 65 becomes 56 after he loses 15% from being a tagger.

Rio needed to stop the damage somehow and decided to put the top forward, Jack Watts down back for a little bit and it worked. As Watts had kicked 2 goals already he was able to muster a few clearing kicks from the defence to same Rio of further damage. He gets a +6 and finishes on 81.

NDT tried to have Cameron break out of his cold streak by sending him down back when the game was done to try and get his hands on the ball. It proved to be ineffective as Cameron was only able to manage a +3 as he only kicked 1 goal for the game. It looks as though he will continue to have this cold streak in the next game. He started on 52 and got the +3 from the limit. Now on 55 he loses 10% as he is cold and finishes on 50. On the contrary Seb Ross wasn’t able to break the 95 barrier to maintain his hot streak. He got 84 this week meaning still will get a +10% taking him to 93.

Two games in I think everything has worked well so far. Can't wait to see a few more experimental strategies.

Final Score:
Rio 1203
NDT 1339

Up Next:
Tomorrow it's Toronto VS Moscow in the 3rd game of the Summer League. It's getting hot.

Quote from: meow meow on November 07, 2016, 11:24:53 AM
Gibbs to tag Lewis then.

No tag employed now that the rule has been changed.

Awesome read :)

Tackle rule was as I read it, which is why I have Picken (tackling machine) tagging Higgins (Low tackle count)  8)

Changing my team just to see what happens with M4 :P

B: Murphy, McVeigh, Montagna, Dempster, Lever
M: Gibbs, Mitchell, Fiorini (c), Wigg
R: Sandi
F: Waite, Higgins, Boyd
I: Wells, Masten

Great write up there Levi, loving the stuff so far!!

Fantastic start for NDT, looking like we'll match my prediction of taking the comp out at this rate ;)

Quote from: BB67th on November 08, 2016, 07:10:32 PM
Great write up there Levi, loving the stuff so far!!

Fantastic start for NDT, looking like we'll match my prediction of taking the comp out at this rate ;)

Good work BB 8)

Quote from: Ricochet on November 09, 2016, 12:24:56 PM

Quote from: BB67th on November 08, 2016, 07:10:32 PM
Great write up there Levi, loving the stuff so far!!

Fantastic start for NDT, looking like we'll match my prediction of taking the comp out at this rate ;)

Good work BB 8)

Based on getting pumped by Dublin by over 100 points?  :P

Quote from: Holz on November 09, 2016, 12:28:07 PM

Quote from: Ricochet on November 09, 2016, 12:24:56 PM

Quote from: BB67th on November 08, 2016, 07:10:32 PM
Great write up there Levi, loving the stuff so far!!

Fantastic start for NDT, looking like we'll match my prediction of taking the comp out at this rate ;)

Good work BB 8)

Based on getting pumped by Dublin by over 100 points?  :P

We played Rio...

and

Pffft Dublin don't scare us ;)

Preview:
Toronto VS Moscow in what shapes up to be a battle of teams on the rise. Both teams had down years last year for different reasons be that injury or suspension. Here is a chance to get the year off on the right track.

A huge call has been made early in this one, Moscow Coach Torp has decided against a tag after originally it was thought he would go for the reverse-tag on Scooter. Could they be taking the Wolves lightly?

On the opposite end we are going to see something we’ve never seen before in Summer League and that is Toronto new signing Brodie Smith implement the “Takeover” strategy. Obviously Coach Adamant confident in his efficiency and ball use. This will be a good chance to see the difference as Moscow has gone with the popular tactic of the “Limit” for Jesse Hogan.

As mentioned Scott Selwood will be tagging. He’ll go to the returning gun Dyson Heppell. Both teams have also decided to keep their structure as standard.

Mid-week after the Wolves had named their team, they made a few sudden changes. Both Nathan Hrovat and Lewis Taylor were omitted for The Sneeze Machine Brendon Ah Chee and also the former Jaguar Shane Kersten. Many Toronto fans have speculated that Hrovat and Taylor both showed up out of shape to preseason training and this was a way for Adamant to law down the lay. Others have speculated that Taylor is just trash. Also Hrovat is Cold which is probably the real reason.

The captaincy battle will be crazy with first time captain Jack Grimes to lead the Wolves out against Dyson Heppell. Another battle to watch is in-form Travis Boak VS in-form Dyson Heppell. Seems like Dyson has a lot on his plate today.


The Game:



Recap:
Apparently injuries are not even a thing with ACL Nic Nat and Broken Leg Wallis both having great games. Moscow mids seemingly all went big with JOM being the only one not to ton.

Brodie Smith with the Takeover definitely did that scoring 103 at a 95% DE. This takes him up to 113 total as he was 10% over the DE cutoff of 85. Shows how good the tactic can be if you have the personnel. Compared to the limit strategy, for someone to get over 10 they need to boot at least 4 goals.

Jack Grimes as captain was only able to muster 71 which just won’t cut it at this level. The Wolves had 8 guys above him and could have cut the gap right down if they went with one of those. The good news for Toronto is that Travis Boak scored 102 which means he continues his hot streak into the next game but also gets a +10% in this one. Taking his score up to 113.

As tagger Scott Selwood loses 15% to take him down to 65.

Complex Dyson Heppell score. He is captain meaning his 107 is always counted. Then he was tagged as well as on a hot streak. So his score loses 4x5% for the difference in tackles. This takes his score to 86. Now since he is on a hot streak he gains +10% of that. So +9. Final score for Heppell is 107 + 95 = 202. He also gets to keep his hot streak into next game.

This was also the first chance I think the tagging worked really well with Selwood losing 11 to Heppell losing 21. It was just too bad for the Wolves that Heppell was on a hot streak. I think you'd take a +10 advantage each week if you could successfully pull it off.

Hogan went back on the Limit tactic and since he kicked 2 goals he receives a +6.

Very good game, some huge scores combined with a few spud ones. Both teams will need to step up to prevent being pumped by Dublin. And even further if they want to challenge the WXV Legends who we'll get to see in a few days time.

Final Score:
Toronto 1324
Moscow 1429

Up Next:
Tomorrow we have Christchurch VS New York. A battle of two teams with a lot to prove.

Quote from: Ricochet on November 09, 2016, 12:34:20 PM

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Quote from: BB67th on November 08, 2016, 07:10:32 PM
Great write up there Levi, loving the stuff so far!!

Fantastic start for NDT, looking like we'll match my prediction of taking the comp out at this rate ;)

Good work BB 8)

Based on getting pumped by Dublin by over 100 points?  :P

We played Rio...

and

Pffft Dublin don't scare us ;)

4:1

Another awesome write-up  :D

I'm a big fan of the hot and cold streaks btw.

Also liking the Limit strategy! It's not too overpowered and it would make opposing coaches bemoan that player whenever they kick a goal.

Despite maybe some fine-tuning to tagging, these little tactics that can potentially add 0-15 points are really good IMO. My first instinct would be to restrict its use, like use "Limit", "Takeover" etc only 3 times each per year or something.

These rules add to our game beautifully IMO, and seeing them in action has made me all the more a supporter of them  8)

Maybe 2018  :(

Quote from: Purple 77 on November 09, 2016, 12:46:08 PM
Also liking the Limit strategy! It's not too overpowered and it would make opposing coaches bemoan that player whenever they kick a goal.

Despite maybe some fine-tuning to tagging, these little tactics that can potentially add 0-15 points are really good IMO. My first instinct would be to restrict its use, like use "Limit", "Takeover" etc only 3 times each per year or something.

These rules add to our game beautifully IMO, and seeing them in action has made me all the more a supporter of them  8)

Maybe 2018  :(

I agree mate, they're perfect because they don't influence a match tooo much

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Quote from: BB67th on November 08, 2016, 07:10:32 PM
Great write up there Levi, loving the stuff so far!!

Fantastic start for NDT, looking like we'll match my prediction of taking the comp out at this rate ;)

Good work BB 8)

Based on getting pumped by Dublin by over 100 points?  :P

We played Rio...

and

Pffft Dublin don't scare us ;)

4:1

Grand Final appearances in last 365 days
0 : 1

(http://i64.tinypic.com/104hgm1.jpg)

It's settled next week.

Dublin VS New Dehli.

The Main Event.




I give the people what they want!

Quote from: Levi434 on November 09, 2016, 01:11:06 PM
It's settled next week.

Dublin VS New Dehli.

The Main Event.




I give the people what they want!

haha boom

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Quote from: Holz on November 09, 2016, 12:28:07 PM

Quote from: Ricochet on November 09, 2016, 12:24:56 PM

Quote from: BB67th on November 08, 2016, 07:10:32 PM
Great write up there Levi, loving the stuff so far!!

Fantastic start for NDT, looking like we'll match my prediction of taking the comp out at this rate ;)

Good work BB 8)

Based on getting pumped by Dublin by over 100 points?  :P

We played Rio...

and

Pffft Dublin don't scare us ;)

4:1

Grand Final appearances in last 365 days
0 : 1

(http://i64.tinypic.com/104hgm1.jpg)

Any Award of merit: Premierships,Minor Premierships, Idol Wins in the last 5 years

3:0 

Quote from: Holz on November 09, 2016, 01:16:56 PM

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Quote from: Holz on November 09, 2016, 12:28:07 PM

Quote from: Ricochet on November 09, 2016, 12:24:56 PM

Quote from: BB67th on November 08, 2016, 07:10:32 PM
Great write up there Levi, loving the stuff so far!!

Fantastic start for NDT, looking like we'll match my prediction of taking the comp out at this rate ;)

Good work BB 8)

Based on getting pumped by Dublin by over 100 points?  :P

We played Rio...

and

Pffft Dublin don't scare us ;)

4:1

Grand Final appearances in last 365 days
0 : 1

(http://i64.tinypic.com/104hgm1.jpg)

Any Award of merit: Premierships,Minor Premierships, Idol Wins in the last 5 years

3:0

That's hardly anything to brag about. NDT were the worst list in history until this year

We almost beat Dublin.  :o

Almost captain Dochers too, looking good! Just need NN back.  :'(

Quote from: Holz on November 09, 2016, 01:16:56 PM

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Quote from: Holz on November 09, 2016, 12:28:07 PM

Quote from: Ricochet on November 09, 2016, 12:24:56 PM

Quote from: BB67th on November 08, 2016, 07:10:32 PM
Great write up there Levi, loving the stuff so far!!

Fantastic start for NDT, looking like we'll match my prediction of taking the comp out at this rate ;)

Good work BB 8)

Based on getting pumped by Dublin by over 100 points?  :P

We played Rio...

and

Pffft Dublin don't scare us ;)

4:1

Grand Final appearances in last 365 days
0 : 1

(http://i64.tinypic.com/104hgm1.jpg)

Any Award of merit: Premierships,Minor Premierships, Idol Wins in the last 5 years

3:0

New assistant coach ready to take the competition by storm

0:1

:P

Preview:
Christchurch led by innovative Coach Meow are here today to challenge New York and their always excited Coach Raisy. Both teams probably thought they could have gone further last season and this is their chance to get off on the right foot. Both teams we’ve seen go astronomically huge before and a couple of interesting captain options in this one could serve well.

The captains are Brayden Florini and Mitch Duncan. Will be a very interesting one to watch. A couple of young gun players going head to head.

I can not wait to see what happens in this match-up particularly because Coach Meow has employed the flood option and New York have chosen not to respond! This means each of Christchurch’s defenders will gain +10% whilst New York forwards will lose 15%. New York’s defenders will gain only 5% whilst Christchurch’s forwards will lose 10%.

These bonuses will be on top of the hot streaks of Daniel Wells and Mitch Duncan. Meow has opted to drop the out of from Toby McLean whilst RaisyDaisy has left Dan Menzel in the team hoping he can find form.

Now the tagging battle has been discussed at length between these two teams with New York having the strategy seemingly down as they have sent Liam Picken over to Shaun Higgins cause Higgo can't tackle apprently.  Whilst Christchurch wanted to tag Mundy, then Lewis and now have left the tag altogether!

Both coaches have gone with the standard limit tactic for Waite and JJK respectively. Boring. I think this could have been a good chance for NY to try the "3rd" Tactic against Aaron Sandilands. I don't think Tippett will match the hitouts of Sandi.


The Game:


Recap:
I think the spreadsheet is pretty self-explanatory in regards to the bonuses the defenders/forward received due to the structure. I’ll take you through a few of them though.

Jarrad Waite as he kicked 3 goals within the limit tactic he gets a +9 taking him to 95 but since the structure didn’t favour him he loses 10% taking him down to 85. Altogether only a -1 from his original score.

Shaun Higgins. Higgins lost the tackle count to Picken by 5 meaning Higgo loses 25%. Add that to the structure penalty and he loses 35% all-up. Meaning his 79 goes down to 52. Well played NY.

Mitch Duncan was captain meaning he gets a guaranteed 85. But since he was also hot he moves to 94. So 179 total.

ahah Scully had 32 touches for 78.

JJK gets a +12 for the limit but he then loses 15% for the structure. So 86 -15% = 74.

Liam Picken as tagger lose 15% then another 15% for the negative structure. So his 71 loses 30% which takes him to 50.

Dan Menzel loses 10% from the cold streak and 15% from the structure. Meaning 66 - 25% = 50. Also this means he continues his cold streak next game.

Daniel Wells scored 89 and Mitch Duncan scored 85 meaning both of them lose their hot streak as they didn’t reach the 95 cutoff. They both still receive a 10% bonus this week though.

In regards to the "3rd" tactic I discussed earlier, a NY mid could have had a +40. As Sandi beat Tippet by 40 hitouts. This tactic is probably a bit overpowered so we'll have to see how it goes in the next few games.

Bonuses were pretty cool, I don't think they affected the game too much. I think the best options are to tag with a player receiving a bonus or not receiving any penalty. We saw Picken get hit 30% as he was a tagger in the wrong structure. Those sort of things will get ironed out when coaches start becoming more familiar with the rules.

Final Score:
Christchurch 1444
New York 1393

Up Next:
Buenos Aires VS The WXV Legends Team! Can not wait for that one. WXV Legends coach Paul Chapman said he has a few surprises in store.

Boyeast!

Quote from: meow meow on November 10, 2016, 02:32:48 PM
Boyeast!

its nice when Spuds like Fiorini have only played 2 games so their true ability is warped.

Quote from: Holz on November 10, 2016, 02:38:15 PM

Quote from: meow meow on November 10, 2016, 02:32:48 PM
Boyeast!

its nice when Spuds like Fiorini have only played 2 games so their true ability is warped.

Nice for everyone else maybe since his first game brings him down. His 125 SC/166 DT second match is closer to the mark. How many current players have put up a DT score like that in their entire career?!

Quote from: Levi434 on November 10, 2016, 01:22:58 PM
Bonuses were pretty cool, I don't think they affected the game too much. I think the best options are to tag with a player receiving a bonus or not receiving any penalty. We saw Picken get hit 30% as he was a tagger in the wrong structure. Those sort of things will get ironed out when coaches start becoming more familiar with the rules.

This pretty much got me. Not flooding/attacking cost us with all our forwards getting reamed in scoring. Tippett and Scully stiff too

Still think we can beat Church in the real stuff :P

Quote from: meow meow on November 10, 2016, 02:43:31 PM

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Quote from: meow meow on November 10, 2016, 02:32:48 PM
Boyeast!

its nice when Spuds like Fiorini have only played 2 games so their true ability is warped.

Nice for everyone else maybe since his first game brings him down. His 125 SC/166 DT second match is closer to the mark. How many current players have put up a DT score like that in their entire career?!

If he makes their best 22 and isn't playing in the NEAFL we can find out.

B: Harbrow, Thompson, Saad
HB: KK, May, Martin
C: Miller, Swallow, Hanley
HF: Sexton, 2MP, Hall
F: Day, Lynch, Matera
R: Nichols, Ablett, Barlow
I: Lyons, Rischitelli, Davis, Shaw

Rosa, Ah Chee, Lemon, Cannon, Lonergan, Witts, Grant, Hallahan, Schoenfeld

2 of the 3 gun recruits should replace Shaw and Davis. Rischitelli will miss the first half of the season and at 31 might not get back in. Hanley could easily play back at the expense of Saad and open up a spot on the wing. Plus there will be injuries. I'm confident of him being in, and after a solid run they'll never leave him out ever again. He's the future, Rosa isn't.

GC could be a contender in 3-4 years if they nail this draft.

Quote from: meow meow on November 10, 2016, 04:44:51 PM
B: Harbrow, Thompson, Saad
HB: KK, May, Martin
C: Miller, Swallow, Hanley
HF: Sexton, 2MP, Hall
F: Day, Lynch, Matera
R: Nichols, Ablett, Barlow
I: Lyons, Rischitelli, Davis, Shaw

Rosa, Ah Chee, Lemon, Cannon, Lonergan, Witts, Grant, Hallahan, Schoenfeld

2 of the 3 gun recruits should replace Shaw and Davis. Rischitelli will miss the first half of the season and at 31 might not get back in. Hanley could easily play back at the expense of Saad and open up a spot on the wing. Plus there will be injuries. I'm confident of him being in, and after a solid run they'll never leave him out ever again. He's the future, Rosa isn't.

GC could be a contender in 3-4 years if they nail this draft.

you have to stick Bowes and all the other draftees in the mix too,

Bowes i have in the 22.

Bowes and whoever replacing Shaw and Davis. Fior ahead of those two after a preseason I'd imagine, so he replaces Telli in the 22. And C'mon it's GC so most of them will be injured anyway so there will be spots galore available.

So no Buenos Aires v Legends today?  :(

Preview:
Truly tragic circumstances we have considered canceling the game but WXV Legends Coach Paul Chapman has requested this game be played to raise money for Jed’s surgery he will most likely need. Paul also stated that since they were now short a player, he would now take the field in place of his buddy.

Paul Chapman now takes his place on the interchange and since Jed Adcock is out, Xavier Ellis who was previously on the IC moves down back. The Legends are still employing the flood strategy, using the “Limit” for Pavlich and have Kane Mitchell tagging Captain Pendlebury.

On the other side, Buenos are also flooding. This means both teams backs receive a +15% and both teams forwards lose 20% due to the 5 on 3 matches around the ground. Buenos have decided to tag Captain Swanny with Trent Dumont. They’ve also decided to use the Takover strategy on Easton Wood.

There are no hot-streaks or cold-streaks to speak of in this match. However if Ed Curnow gets above 90 then he gains a hot streak.


The Game:


Recap:
Paul Chapman what the heck was he doing? 18 kicks 9 of those on goal, only managed 2 goals 7 behinds. Wow Chaps way to lose the game for your team ay?

Finally we get a close game! Only 4 SC points in it! A very very good game from Tom Nicholls bringing it home.

Easton Wood did NOT get over the 85% DE for his Takeover to activate! Leaving him without a bonus there but he does get the 20% structure bonus along with all the other backs. Spreadsheet shows all the bonuses/penalties so I don't need to go through them all.

Pendles was Captain for 104 but tagged so he lose 20% as he lost the tackle count 7-3. So he goes down to 84. So 104+84 = 188. Mitchell goes from 64 to 55.

Swan as C got 129. But he was able to break the Dumont tag as he got 5 more tackles! Meaning he gets the full captain score of 258. Dumont still loses 15% though.

Pavlich gets +6 for the Limit bonus which takes him to 76. But then he loses 20% from the structure. Leaving him only on 61.

Curnow got so close but couldn’t get over 90 for him to gain the hot streak.

Final Score:
Buenos Aires 1354
WXV Legends 1350

Up Next:
That's it for this round. More importantly than that! We have the exclusive footage of whodunit to Jed Adcock. Here it is:
http://oi65.tinypic.com/160a8lk.jpg

WHAT THE HECK! What a traitor!! I can not believe this utter filth!!! SOMETHING HAS TO HAPPEN ABOUT THIS!!!!

Chappy taking out Jed lol haha

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These players are in hot form and will receive a +10% confidence bonus:
Travis Boak
Dyson Heppell
Joel Selwood
Andrew Walker

For these players to continue their hot-streak they need to score a 95.

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These players are in cold form and will receive a -10% form penalty:
Daniel Menzel
Jeremy Cameron

For these players to break their cold streak they need to score 80.

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We'll do this week as a normal AFL week would be. So a game on Friday, 2 games Saturday and 2 Sunday.

Team Name: Dublin
Tagging:
Mid-Match: Jroo - Limit

D: Alex Rance, Chris Yarran, Grant Birchall, J.Weitering
M: J.Selwood (C), A.Treloar, B.Crouch, R.Sloane
R: T.Goldstein (VC)
F: J.Gunston, J.Roo, J.Westhoff, D.Martin
I: N.Jones, K.Jack

Holz if you can name DMart fwd then we're naming Gray fwd too

Quote from: Ricochet on November 15, 2016, 01:34:56 PM
Holz if you can name DMart fwd then we're naming Gray fwd too

Gray has been listed as a mid all year.

Dmart has been listed as a fwd all year.

that doesnt change untill positions come out.

I think Jack is a chance to get F/M but ill list him in the mids as thats where he is currently named.

I'll have Hall and Robbo up forward please. :)

Quote from: Holz on November 15, 2016, 12:55:41 PM
Team Name: Dublin
Tagging:
Mid-Match: Jroo - Limit

D: Alex Rance, Chris Yarran, Grant Birchall, T.Mcdonald
M: S.Hill, A.Treloar (C), B.Crouch, R.Sloane
R: T.Goldstein (VC)
F: J.Gunston, J.Roo, J.Westhoff, D.Martin
I: N.Jones, K.Jack

Rio de Janeiro Jaguars:

Structure: Standard
Tagging: No Pendles No tag :P
Mid-Match: Takeover on Kade Kolodjashnij

D: M. Boyd, B. Vince, K. Kolodjashnij, R. Tarrant
M: G. Ablett (C), D. Zaharakis, S. Thompson, M. Robinson
R: S. Jacobs (VC)
F: J. Watts, M. Wright, M. Wood, E. Yeo
I: D. Pearce, B. Jacobs

Team Name: WXV Legends
Structure: Standard
Tagging: Kane Mitchell tagging Sam Mitchell
Mid-Match: Match-fix tactic on Paul Chapman

D: Danny Stanley, Nick Dal Santo, Troy Chaplin, Corey Enright
M: Dane Swan(C), Matthew Stokes, Kane Mitchell, Brent Harvey
R: Dean Cox(VC)
F: Adam Cooney, Matthew Pavlich, Drew Petrie,
I: James Gwilt, Xavier Ellis

Match Fix?

Ah, great, just in time for Pendles.

Berlin "2017 premiership or bust" Brewers

Structure: Flood
Tagging: Jack Viney tagging Scott Pendlebury
Mid-Match: "Limit" tactic for Lance Franklin

D: Michael Hibberd, Jamie MacMillan, Shaun Burgoyne, Andrew Mackie, Michael Johnson
M: Nat Fyfe (C), Jack Steven, Tom Liberatore, Jack Viney
R: Max Gawn (VC)
F: Lance Franklin, Michael Walters, Mark LeCras
I: Jobe Watson, Stephen Hill

Still praying for a Buddy bag. Viney tackles in the double-figures every now and then, so hopefully he can negate Pendles.

D: Lever, Andrews, Wilson, McKenzie
M: Steele, Blakely, Fiorini (C), Neal-Bullen
R: Roughead
F: Hoskin-Elliott, Langford, McLean, Anderson
I: Stewart, Vardy

No tactics

Team Name: New Delhi Tigers
Structure: Flood
Tagging: None
Mid-Match: "Limit" tactic for Travis Cloke

D: Bachar Houli, Jeremy Howe, Hamish Hartlett, Nick Vlastuin, Nathan Krakouer
M: Robbie Gray (C), Steele Sidebottom (VC), Marc Murphy, Jack Ziebell
R: Stefan Martin
F: Jack Darling, Jack Martin, Travis Cloke
I: Matt Crouch, Seb Ross

Cameron gets dropped for his cold run of form, and Krakouer comes in to shore up the defense against Dublin's key goal scorers.

Dropping the tag this week to let Ziebs run a mock and score a big ton.

Quote from: Torpedo10 on November 08, 2016, 09:14:48 AM
Moscow Spetsnaz:
Tagging: Matt Rosa Tagging Joel Selwood
Structure: Flood
Hogan for Limit

D: Sam Docherty (VC), Steven May, Jack Hombsch, Lynden Dunn, Daniel Talia
M: Dyson Heppell (C), Stephen Coniglio Jack Crisp, Jaeger O'Meara
R: Nic Naitanui
F: Jesse Hogan, Tom Bell, Angus Monfries
I: Sam Menegola, Matt Rosa

Just to clarify, so because Moscow is flooding we would need to attack to counter that?

Quote from: RaisyDaisy on November 18, 2016, 12:14:48 PM
Just to clarify, so because Moscow is flooding we would need to attack to counter that?

Yep otherwise penalties.

New York Revolution

Structure: Attack
Tagging: Liam Picken tagging Jesse Hogan
Limit: Josh Kennedy

B: Mundy, Gibson, Tarrant
M: Selwood (C), Lewis (VC), Duncan, Scully
R: Tippett
F: Kennedy, Heeney, Picken, Stringer, Gresham
I: Tyson, Armitage

Preview:
Welcome to the 2nd week of Summer League the rules are becoming more clearly defined now. Some are sticking out as clearly wrong and others still yet to be made the decision on. At this stage I'm leaning towards BANNING the bonuses/penalties for the structure.

Jelwood with the everything in his first game for his new team! He didn't look too happy stepping out for his new team but the WXV Legend will have to carry NY much like he's carried Geelong in the past few years. At Dublin he could take a step back and let the other spuds carry his bags. But here not so much.

Interesting to note here today is that Jack Crisp the man who scored a huge 134 in the win last week has appeared to limp out onto the ground? Very weird sight to see someone get injured before the match even gets under way. We'll have to look into that as it might have something to do with Paul Chapman.


The Game:


Recap:
The tag of Matt Rosa was broken by Joel Selwood but Rosa still loses 15%.

Hogan the spud. Loses 25% from the Picken tag and then gains 9 points back from his Limit. Leaving him with 72. Picken goes down to 104.

Former Dubliner Joel Selwood went 127 to once again continue his hot streak! He gets a +10%. He finishes on 267.

JJK! What a huge BAG! 8 goals ZIP! Combine that with the limit tactic gets him + 24. Final score of 143. Two 140 scores from the NY forwards will have the rest of the comp on notice!

Jack Crisp obviously was affected by that injury and the more I think about it, the more I feel like it was blatant and intentionally done by a cunning individual. Chapppy please if you're reading this turn yourself in mate.


Final Score:
Moscow
New York

Up Next:
WXV Legends VS Christchurch. Can not wait for that one. Hopefully Paul Chapman has been detained by then.

selwood :(

Am I meant to have named a team?

Too many passengers.  :(

Dochers Captain would've gotten me within some sort of striking distance but still quite convincing.

Quote from: iZander on November 18, 2016, 08:38:20 PM
Am I meant to have named a team?

Just name a team by tomorrow man. :)

Team Name: Toronto Wolves
Structure: Attack
Tagging: No tagging
Mid-Match: Takeover for Shane Savage

D: Brodie Smith, Shane Savage, Jack Grimes
M: Scott Pendlebury (c), Jackson Macrae (vc), Pearce Hanley, Mitch Wallis
R: Matthew Kreuzer
F: Richard Douglas, Jordan De Goey, Nathan Hrovat, Shane Kersten, Angus Monfries
I: Scott Selwood, Sam Kerridge

Quote from: Levi434 on November 18, 2016, 10:28:55 PM

Quote from: iZander on November 18, 2016, 08:38:20 PM
Am I meant to have named a team?

Just name a team by tomorrow man. :)

Pretty depressing without pendles but for the best long term :P

Back: Hooker, Biggs, Wood, Tuohy
Mid: Boak, Issac Smith, Dumont, Parish
Ruck: Nicholls
Fwd: Walker, Elliot, Bennel, Edwards
I: Curnow (C), Currie

So it's gone from NY not having a captain option to Buenos Aires not?

This car just showed up to the stadium

(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/7/7d/Chrysler_300C_3.0_CRD_Limousine_(16716354046).jpg)

Preview:
Here we are today the 2nd match of round 2 in the 2016 Summer League. As noted earlier a very nice white limo showed up, and it was actually Paul Chapman who was inside along with a number of other individuals all of which were masked though.

We're trying to get an interview with Paul Chapman here but the only he he said was that: "Prepare for some domination. We're sick of the WXV thinking they can run everything. I'm sick of how people like me aren't allowed back into this glorified comp."

The most interesting thing to note is that the expected WXV Legends Team is yet to arrive at the building. We have no idea why but not one of their players is here yet. Hold on... it looks as though Paul Chapman is leading a team onto the field? 1.2.3.4 yep it looks like there are 15 guys there.

Take a look at these fine specimens! http://oi66.tinypic.com/314xg9d.jpg


The Game:


Recap:
The "Legends" of course captained Chappy and Christchurch stuck with Fiorini. Very good coaching by meow to not play any of his superstars as many of the Saints will be feeling it for the next few weeks. The Legends played a very dirty brand of football when they were without the ball. Cheap-shots, wet-willies, biting, scratching, kicking, stomping, high tackles, low tackles were all seen here today by the Legends. When they had the ball? Handballs galore! They passed it around for ages until they could get the ball into the hands of Chappy in the forward 50 where he would have a shot on goal with all 27 of his kicks. 16 of which went out on a full. AT 1 point Adam Schneider took a shot on goal and even though Chappy was triple-team he was very unhappy with Schneider. Chappy also did not lay a tackle.

Epic play from the Legends averaging over 5.2 handballs per kick and a huge team DE over 85% Andrew Walker on the hot streak got a +10% which resulted in +8. But won't be continuing it into the next game.

We also got a report mid match that during the half time interval. Shining light Jack Steele was attacked in the lockeroom by Clay Cameron and Louis Herbert! He was on 80 SC at the half but after the attack could only tackle his way to 88 for the game! These few tackles helped Christchurch amass a record 134 tackles for the game.

A major development has taken place there is something familiar about Paul Chapman's men. Apparently they are all former Rio de Janeiro Jaguars players! And we can confirm this fact! This is an outrage! Levi what the heck do you have to say for yourself?


Final Score:
WXV Legends 1301
Christchurch 1217

Up Next:
Paul Chapman continues his run of terror upon whoever is playing next!

Lol, great pic Levi :P

The best thing about this comp is Chappy! Haha loving it

Preview:
Both teams trying to gain an edge with the tactics here in this one. Adamant sticking with the "Takeover" tactic whilst Purple persisting with the seemingly standard "Limit." Berlin has elected to try and tag Toronto new recruit Pendles out of this one with occasional gun Jack Viney.

But the big match every is here to see is Kersten VS Mackie.

I kid. Fyfe VS Pendles! Here we go the 3rd and 4th best players in the league are ready to go head-to-head. Both are captain of their respective sides and dare I say will be perma-captain for the year? We're almost underway here and as you can see, Berlin tried to get an extra number back but Toronto has had none of that and shifted a man forward.

The Game:


Recap:
Obviously as due to the teams structure nullifying each other, no team gets the bonus or penalty.

Viney as tagger lose 15% which takes his 90 down to 77. His tag of Pendles was effective though as he had 3 more tackles. Meaning Pendles loses 15% also. Taking his 141 down to 120. Total gain of +8 by Berlin good work. Pendles finished on 261.

7 goals from the big Buddy gives him a +21! Taking him all the way up to 140!!!!!

Toronto again succesfully used the Takeover and got Savage a +5 onto his score.

It came down to Kerridge needing a big score to get the Wolves home. He needed 141 and despite 35 touches was "only" able to get 126 SC.

Just for the sake of conversation. If The Wolves went Macrae to tag Fyfe, they would have won. Then again lots of what if's in this game. If Pendles layed 1 more tackle or Buddy kicked 1 less goal. Welp that's the game! Overall promising signs for both teams here. Although I think Toronto will feel a little ripped off not being able to pull this one out.


Final Score:
Berlin 1521
Toronto 1507

Up Next:
Rio VS BAA. How will Buenos go without Pendles? Lets see.

Knew Viney was a good bet :D

Also knew Buddy would pay off at some stage! Cool to know that because of those strats, I won

That's a mighty fine effort from Toronto #PendlesEffect

Cloke would have scored 141 Ada ;)

Preview:
The Jaguars brought back 9 Premiership players for their first hitout since that GF. Although it's a sad day as Jaguars icon Robbie Tarrant has been traded and will be playing his last game in the pristine Jaguars colours here today. We wish Robbie the best! What a legend!

Ablett as C looked to have a big match with no tag coming. The midfield load was on him as there was no Cripps or Hall in the mids today.

Travvy Boak playing for his 3rd team in a few months and coming up against the team he won a Premiership with, is on a hot streak and needs 102 to continue it.

Rio has told KK to lift his DE up back to his premo level as he will be in charge of the takeover. Aires have decided to avoid tactics today, obviously still depressed after trading Pendles for a hack like Tex.

The Game:

Recap:
Travvvvvvyy could not muster up the 102 to continue his hot streak. So he now loses it. He does however get the +10% in this game moving him along to 75. Would have been interesting to see how Pendles would have done in this match.

KK was unable to get above 85 for the Takeover to activate so no bonuses here.

I'm becoming a fan of some of these tactics but I've grown unsure as to how the team structures will work. If BAA had of "Attacked" this week they would have won I believe. That's only if Rio didn't adjust accordingly. However, my biggest problem with it is that teams may well wait until 1 minute before lockout to submit their team in a unique structure to gain an advantage. Not a fan of that.

Final Score:
Rio 1473
Buenos 1375

Up Next:
The main event. Dublin VS NDT. A battle of two team who just hate each other. Well notreallyhateeee. Just dislike each other for 1.5-2.5 days a week.

The hate is real.


Dublin are pie

Quote from: Ricochet on November 20, 2016, 03:03:59 PM
The hate is real.


Dublin are pie

I have nothing against Ndt.

I have a healthy rivalry with teams like mexico who i have battled with for years

NDT just too irelevant to have all this talk about them. Dublin living with tall poppy syndrone so its just a struggle we live with. Sonetimes it would be nice to have a team where losing a final is the greatest achievement ever (free/Ndt) but have higher standards here.

Shots fired

Quote from: Purple 77 on November 20, 2016, 01:33:13 PM
That's a mighty fine effort from Toronto #PendlesEffect

Good to see the influence he's having already!

Quote from: Ricochet on November 20, 2016, 01:38:10 PM
Cloke would have scored 141 Ada ;)

Mabye if he was using an illegal glove and behinds were worth 30 SC. :P

Tention building

Quote from: Holz on November 22, 2016, 12:55:42 AM
Tention building

Yeah so. I have it ready. And I have had it ready to go since like 11 this morning but forgot to post it. Now I'll just wait out until tomorrow or something.

In the meantime, I've banned Chappy from coming to the game so fear not.

#NoChappyNoSummerLeague

Quote from: Holz on November 17, 2016, 03:48:09 PM

Quote from: Holz on November 15, 2016, 12:55:41 PM
Team Name: Dublin
Tagging:
Mid-Match: Jroo - Limit

D: Alex Rance, Chris Yarran, Grant Birchall, T.Mcdonald
M: S.Hill, A.Treloar (C), B.Crouch, R.Sloane
R: T.Goldstein (VC)
F: J.Gunston, J.Roo, J.Westhoff, D.Martin
I: N.Jones, K.Jack

So Holz... Since the game hasn't actually been posted yet, Weits in? :-X

Quote from: Ricochet on November 23, 2016, 11:17:32 AM

Quote from: Holz on November 17, 2016, 03:48:09 PM

Quote from: Holz on November 15, 2016, 12:55:41 PM
Team Name: Dublin
Tagging:
Mid-Match: Jroo - Limit

D: Alex Rance, Chris Yarran, Grant Birchall, T.Mcdonald
M: S.Hill, A.Treloar (C), B.Crouch, R.Sloane
R: T.Goldstein (VC)
F: J.Gunston, J.Roo, J.Westhoff, D.Martin
I: N.Jones, K.Jack

So Holz... Since the game hasn't actually been posted yet, Weits in? :-X

the game was played on Sunday so he was on a list at that point and levi has already made up the scorer.  Ill remove him next week though :(

last game for Yaz probably :( lets hope he gets his mind all sorted.

Preview:
Oi sorry for the delay lads. Had a bad Tinder date. Well ya see. My wifey found out I had a Tinder so she downloaded Tinder and synced it to my profile. Caught red handed! So I go on this date y'all. Bloody guess who's standing there? My wifey! What even! Far out! I weren't even rockin this just like a club, I'm so sick of bein so serious, it's makin my brain delirious. I'm just talkin the truth, telling you bout that che we do. Nah just kidding pals. Some stupid idiot told me I was gonna get IT. SO I naturally asked what IT meant? He said IT!!!! I said get stuffed mate I got Dublin VS NDT coming up! He told me that he was gonna get "The Sword" on me. Whatever...

Treloar VS Gray is a straight up uncontested, untagged matchup here today between the captains. Dublin needing to find a captain in the absence of the in-form Joel Selwood. Who turns out they traded for a much needed defender. TMac of very good quality especially now with Chris Yarran no longer in the game.

The advantage may well sit with NDT after the decided to use the "Flood" tactic. Their defenders get a +10%. Their forwards lose 10%. Whilst Dublin's forwards lose 15% but their backs gain 5%. Overall Dublin's team will lose 4.5% of it's total score and NDT will lose 2%. We'll see how that affects the game!

Both teams have used the limit tactic. Dublin on Jack Riewoldt and New Dehli on Travis Cloke. Hopefully Cloke has em working side to side.

The Game:

Recap:
Good to see big YAZ going out with a bang. 78 good points. Although just like the rest of the Dublin backs he gets a 5% bonus.

Treloar as C went only 202 whilst Robbie G went 276! Big advantage gained there by NDT. Although Rory Sloane single handedly closed that gap right back up! 168 ain't too shabby.

Riewoldt gets + 12 for the limit, taking him to 131 before his 15% structure penalty. Finishes on 112. All the other Dublin forwards also lose 15% because of structure.

All NDT backs get a +10%.

BIG Travvy CLOKE! Booted 3! Giving him +9 on his 72 taking him to 81 before his 10% penalty. Leaving him on 73.

Overall the bonuses/penalties brought the game much closer. Prior to everything Dublin were up 1451 to 1344.

Final Score:
Dublin 1523
New Dehli 1514

Up Next:
What do people think? Is it worth me spending an hour a game and maintaining my commitment to WXV? Thoughts on adding in weather, restings, VC bonuses, forward tactics, defensive tactics, change-up tactics, merchandising partnerships, crowd momentum meter, increased players on field, sub infractions, runner infractions, water-person bonuses, show-off bonus, fitness bonus, in week training, day-by-day training with bonuses associated to what training exercise you choose, fresh breath bonus, non-shower bonus, good sleep bonus, indoctrinated by Chappy bonus, react positively to the media bonus, react negatively to the media penalty, half time coach spray bonus, celebrity in attendance bonus, family bonus, friend bonus, live-scoring and therefore live coaching?

I'm feeling like adding all of these in. Call me young Nicki chiminey!

Wait so, if Weits played instead of Yarran (like he will have to this year), we'd most likely have won??

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Quote from: Ricochet on November 20, 2016, 03:03:59 PM
Dublin are pie

very smart coaching Rico and Ele.

All the bonuses for the different structure bumped up the team from your usual Dublin v NDT whitewash where its over at 1/4 time to a close contest. Shame that wont work in the real season and i worked out just then that 5 v 4 was a bigger advantage then 4 v3.

So even with the sneaky tactic the team with way too much talent turns up the victor as they should. The best thing is Tmac Rance Treloar Crouch Goldy Jones all went well under their average. While only Birchall Sloane Jroo went well over.

Thanks for the amazing write up Levi. Appreciate all the work you put into the site and worlds.

Quote from: Ricochet on November 23, 2016, 01:10:14 PM
Wait so, if Weits played instead of Yarran (like he will have to this year), we'd most likely have won??

or if I played Daw over Yarran and took out all the bonuses I would have destroyed you.

Quote from: Holz on November 23, 2016, 01:13:35 PM
very smart coaching Rico and Ele. BB.

Quote from: Holz on November 23, 2016, 01:13:35 PM
So even with the sneaky tactic the team with way too much talent turns up the victor as they should. The best thing is Tmac Rance Treloar Crouch Goldy Jones all went well under their average. While only Birchall Sloane Jroo went well over.

Sidey underperformed by about 250pts so yeh

Quote from: Holz on November 23, 2016, 01:13:35 PM
Thanks for the amazing write up Levi. Appreciate all the work you put into the site and worlds.

Can't disagree with this :). A mountain of work done by Levi, thanks mate

Well I can understand Chris Yarran retiring. Things don't get too much better than beating NDT.

I'm really liking the comp thus far Levi, fantastic write ups, and I'm always keen to try out a few extra rules if you want to add any more in - makes it a more fun competition with not much on the line!

So we're a few games in now, what are peoples thoughts on these new rules? Can we see any that would actually be good to have in WXV?

I don't mind the form confidence one but it would require a fair bit of work for Purps having to continually track so many players form so might not be practical

Limit I think is simple and could be introduced

Not sure anything else is practical or worthwhile yet

Quote from: RaisyDaisy on November 23, 2016, 07:52:58 PM
So we're a few games in now, what are peoples thoughts on these new rules? Can we see any that would actually be good to have in WXV?

I don't mind the form confidence one but it would require a fair bit of work for Purps having to continually track so many players form so might not be practical

Limit I think is simple and could be introduced

Not sure anything else is practical or worthwhile yet

I like the limit one alot, maybe some other like shut down king for spoils etc...

Don't like the fllooding, attack bonus but was good to test it out.

Form is good too.

Tagging has potenrial but don't think tackling is the best way. Not too sure on the best way

Quote from: RaisyDaisy on November 23, 2016, 07:52:58 PM
I don't mind the form confidence one but it would require a fair bit of work for Purps having to continually track so many players form so might not be practical

Wouldn't be any trouble at all :) I set up all my systems at the beginning of the year so that everything is automated. I reckon I could get my spreadsheet to do it automatically. Big fan of it too.

Limit is good. Flooding/Attacking didn't work as well as I thought it would IMO. I reckon the disposal efficiency one should be brought down to 75%. As Holz says, tagging has potential, but not convinced about tackles being the basis for it.

It'd be cool if SuperCoach announced, as well as D/M/R/F, the Tagging "T" position :P so we could use those players as taggers

Quote from: Purple 77 on November 23, 2016, 08:59:49 PM
It'd be cool if SuperCoach announced, as well as D/M/R/F, the Tagging "T" position :P so we could use those players as taggers

You could use fanfooty match stats and if they get the tag logo x amount of times

Quote from: Ricochet on November 23, 2016, 09:10:07 PM

Quote from: Purple 77 on November 23, 2016, 08:59:49 PM
It'd be cool if SuperCoach announced, as well as D/M/R/F, the Tagging "T" position :P so we could use those players as taggers

You could use fanfooty match stats and if they get the tag logo x amount of times

I've found those symbols to be a bit inaccurate in 2016 compared to other years, but a good thought

Good to see we're on the same page

We like Limit and confidence, don't care much for flood/attack and aren't sure Tag can be reasonably measured

That being said, liking a rule is one thing, but I think it's important that we don't saturate WXV with too many unique rules.

I agree with Holz that if there's going to be Limit, then there should also be an option for a defender to drift forward "to help the team kick goals" too, but like Tag it's hard to figure out what stat to use - don't think spoil is the answer. Also, with this, I think the rule should be that if a team uses Limit/Defender option then they cannot flood/attack. Doesn't make sense to be flooding (so only having 3 forwards to begin with) and then being able to send 1 of your 3 forwards down back, only leaving you with 2 forwards

Completely agree with the above. Fan of form and limit, not so much the different structures and tackles for tagging.

Quote from: RaisyDaisy on November 23, 2016, 10:18:19 PM
Good to see we're on the same page

We like Limit and confidence, don't care much for flood/attack and aren't sure Tag can be reasonably measured

That being said, liking a rule is one thing, but I think it's important that we don't saturate WXV with too many unique rules.

I agree with Holz that if there's going to be Limit, then there should also be an option for a defender to drift forward "to help the team kick goals" too, but like Tag it's hard to figure out what stat to use - don't think spoil is the answer. Also, with this, I think the rule should be that if a team uses Limit/Defender option then they cannot flood/attack. Doesn't make sense to be flooding (so only having 3 forwards to begin with) and then being able to send 1 of your 3 forwards down back, only leaving you with 2 forwards

Spoils isnt for tagging.

Instead of limit with 3 points perfect goal
You can play shut down and a defender gets +2 for spoils

Re-read what I said holz

Didn't say spoils was for tagging.