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Title: Bully's Boys
Post by: Bully on February 01, 2016, 07:28:25 PM
Backs - Simpson, Bartel, Rich, B. Smith, M. Brown (Ess), M. Adams   Bench: M. Brown (Eagles), A. Morgan

Midfield - Pendlebury, Ablett, Sloane, Rockliff, Liberatore, Crouch, Menegola, M. Hibberd    Bench: Gresham, Fiorini, Ahern

Rucks - Goldstein, Naitanui   Bench: Chol

Forwards - Deledio, Martin, Barlow, Leuenberger, Wells, Kerridge (Kommer, Petracca)

Bank - $39,100


Rookies still up in the air but this is the structure I'll be taking in all likelihood. I may replace Barlow with another premo but will wait and see if he has a solid preseason, hopefully he hasn't slowed down too much. Was tempted to pick Shaw but will wait for a dip in price, McVeigh on paper looks a given but no preseason is putting me off. Have picked Leuey as cover for my rucks and to use as a loophole down the track.
Title: Re: Bully's Boys
Post by: ben_020285 on February 01, 2016, 09:03:02 PM
Really like this team.

The only thing I would do is trade Wells for a cheap rookie and upgrade Leuey to a keeper.
Title: Re: Bully's Boys
Post by: Bully on February 01, 2016, 09:14:32 PM
Quote from: ben_020285 on February 01, 2016, 09:03:02 PM
Really like this team.

The only thing I would do is trade Wells for a cheap rookie and upgrade Leuey to a keeper.

I see your point and both players are on the watch list, if one goes down both will be omitted. The theory on having both comes down to upside (both have a 90 capability), DPP especially in the ruck and the lack of good forward rookies. Traditionally a premo & rookie combo will yield 160-180 points (100-110 + 60-70), the Wells & Leuey combo should be in the same ball park. It will cost an extra trade but I figure the same may happen if Goldy or Nic Nat have a week on the sidelines. All this is still subject to change depending on preseason form & fitness.
Title: Re: Bully's Boys
Post by: fanTCfool on February 01, 2016, 10:19:19 PM
Would highly recommend spending the extra few dollars to get Mitch King over Chol for loophole purposes
Title: Re: Bully's Boys
Post by: Bully on February 01, 2016, 10:22:10 PM
Quote from: fanTCfool on February 01, 2016, 10:19:19 PM
Would highly recommend spending the extra few dollars to get Mitch King over Chol for loophole purposes

Yes good point, I've just gone over the fixture and Richmond has a ridiculous number of early games.
Title: Re: Bully's Boys
Post by: AaronKirk on February 02, 2016, 03:31:01 AM
Excellent side that I cannot fault much at all.

Just one quick query? Do you see Rich doing enough to be a keeper in defense?

He has only gone above 90 once in the last 7 years, being in 2012 where he averaged 90.80.

I know he is training predominately with the midfield group ATM but with his history of being tagged and the number of decent mids at Brisbane do you thing he will be able to lift his output by 5PPG above his career average to be worth starting?



Title: Re: Bully's Boys
Post by: RaisyDaisy on February 02, 2016, 08:19:19 AM
Very similar side to my first draft Bully, but we seem to go with similar structured and styled sides don't we ;)

I've since removed Luey, but will bring him back in if he shows enough during nab - just concerned with his health and spuds he'll be tapping to

Title: Re: Bully's Boys
Post by: enzedder on February 02, 2016, 10:41:21 AM
Quote from: Bully on February 01, 2016, 09:14:32 PM
Quote from: ben_020285 on February 01, 2016, 09:03:02 PM
Really like this team.

The only thing I would do is trade Wells for a cheap rookie and upgrade Leuey to a keeper.

I see your point and both players are on the watch list, if one goes down both will be omitted. The theory on having both comes down to upside (both have a 90 capability), DPP especially in the ruck and the lack of good forward rookies. Traditionally a premo & rookie combo will yield 160-180 points (100-110 + 60-70), the Wells & Leuey combo should be in the same ball park. It will cost an extra trade but I figure the same may happen if Goldy or Nic Nat have a week on the sidelines. All this is still subject to change depending on preseason form & fitness.
Agree. Both still in my side...to stay or change determined by time and evidence.
Title: Re: Bully's Boys
Post by: Bully on February 03, 2016, 02:11:56 AM
Quote from: AaronKirk on February 02, 2016, 03:31:01 AM
Excellent side that I cannot fault much at all.

Just one quick query? Do you see Rich doing enough to be a keeper in defense?

He has only gone above 90 once in the last 7 years, being in 2012 where he averaged 90.80.

I know he is training predominately with the midfield group ATM but with his history of being tagged and the number of decent mids at Brisbane do you thing he will be able to lift his output by 5PPG above his career average to be worth starting?

It's a fair point and I'm really mulling over this one, every year I predict great things from Rich and he ends up disappointing me. I carried him all through last year and found myself tearing my hair out, such a classy footballer when on song but turns to dust the moment he gets some attention. In a perfect world Hanley gets the tag and Rich is left to roam free, certainly a big if however. I guess the thing that is swaying me on this occasion is the DPP, guys like this are gold when the injuries take their toll.  I've been strongly considering Boyd but he is destined to miss games, this could be costly in the long run.

Quote from: RaisyDaisy on February 02, 2016, 08:19:19 AM
Very similar side to my first draft Bully, but we seem to go with similar structured and styled sides don't we ;)

I've since removed Luey, but will bring him back in if he shows enough during nab - just concerned with his health and spuds he'll be tapping to

Yes Raisy, we started with near identical teams last year yet all my moves were puss and you had the Midas touch, hopefully I return to the top 1000 this year.
Title: Re: Bully's Boys
Post by: Bully on February 03, 2016, 02:41:21 AM
Here's my team if O'Meara hits full fitness.

Backs -  Simpson, Bartel, Rich, B. Smith, M. Hibberd, M. Adams (M. Brown, M. Hartley)

Mids - Pendlebury, Ablett, Sloane, Rockliff, Liberatore, O'Meara, Crouch, Menegola (Fiorini, Ahern, Freeman)

Rucks - Goldstein, Naitanui (King)

Forwards - Martin, Barlow, Franklin, Leuenberger, Wells, Kerridge (Kommer, Petracca)

Cash - $900
Title: Re: Bully's Boys
Post by: Ringo on February 03, 2016, 10:52:09 AM
Solid team and structure.  Worth sitting on till NAB cup.
Only real concern for me is Rich -  He is training with the mid group so may not give that run of HB and attract a run with role now which in the past has shown he can not handle.  Has been doing a lot of work with Simon Black in this regard so maybe this may be the season he shakes it but I have been waiting years for it.

Title: Re: Bully's Boys
Post by: Bully on February 08, 2016, 07:56:57 PM
Here's another version with Luey & O"Meara out.

Backs - Simpson, Bartel, Rich, B.Smith, Byrne, Collins (M.Brown W.C., Hartley)

Mids - Pendlebury, Ablett, Sloane, Rockliff, Wines, Liberatore, Crouch, Menegola (Jansen, Polkinghorne, M.Hibberd)

Rucks - Goldy. Naitanui (D.Wyatt)

Forwards - Martin, Barlow, Franklin, Wells, Kerridge, Petracca (M.Adams, M.Brown Ess.)

Cash - $1,800

Edit: Swapped Cotchin for Wines, have just looked at Port's draw and it's too good to ignore, the extra cash has enabled me to grab M.Brown from the Eagles.
Title: Re: Bully's Boys
Post by: NickyBoy on February 08, 2016, 09:46:39 PM
Definitely loving the Wines pick over Cotchin. Very nice team, i'd wait till NAB starts before changing it again.
Title: Re: Bully's Boys
Post by: Bully on February 12, 2016, 08:59:58 PM
Ok, with Gresham looking good in the intra club match, need some advice as to how to squeeze him in? Note - I will not compromise on my midfield premos.
Title: Re: Bully's Boys
Post by: Gigantor on February 12, 2016, 09:01:24 PM
Rich to Malceski?
Title: Re: Bully's Boys
Post by: Bully on February 12, 2016, 09:03:48 PM
Quote from: Gigantor on February 12, 2016, 09:01:24 PM
Rich to Malceski?

Good suggestion and one I was contemplating. Cheers.
Title: Re: Bully's Boys
Post by: RoughRed on February 12, 2016, 10:50:21 PM
I keep looking at Wells too but can not be convinced
Pricing is right but if I was going to run him it would be in the mids to give DPP
Just thinkin'
Prefer Anderson!
Title: Re: Bully's Boys
Post by: Bully on February 15, 2016, 04:12:50 PM
Quote from: RoughRed on February 12, 2016, 10:50:21 PM
I keep looking at Wells too but can not be convinced
Pricing is right but if I was going to run him it would be in the mids to give DPP
Just thinkin'
Prefer Anderson!

Wells is a bargain this year, if his body holds up. He's more than capable of being a forward keeper, something which could give owners a real leg up on the competition. The other aspect to consider is the ease at which one can make a correctional trade, if Anderson tears it up and Wells falters then I'll make the necessary adjustments. 
Title: Re: Bully's Boys
Post by: Mantis on February 15, 2016, 06:45:47 PM
I agree with ya mate, huge upside to wells. If he does fail a corrective trade isn't hard to do, either sideways or downgrade, plenty of options. Wells has the potential to be a great money maker whilst still pumping out decent enough scores.
Title: Re: Bully's Boys
Post by: Bully on March 02, 2016, 02:06:34 AM
The latest update with some expensive rookies in mind, still think I may have to make further cuts and may downgrade Selwood to Parker to free up some space.

Def - Laird, Simpson, Bartel, Smith, M.Brown, Collins (Hartley, Tippa)

Mids - Fyfe, Pendles, Ablett, Selwood, Rockliff, Libba, Crouch, Menadue (Gresham, Mathieson, MacPherson)

Rucks - Goldy, Naitanui (Wyatt)

Forwards - Martin, Barlow, Wells, B.Kennedy, Milera, Kerridge (Pickett, Grimley)

Cash - $8,300

Still unsure about Collins, Tippa, Mathieson & Pickett, no doubt there will be some more tweaking. There's not much fat left in the coffers but will bring in Parker for Selwood if need be. Hoping to swing Menadue back to the forward line and replace with a cheaper mid. D6 is a massive worry, Tucker is the guy I want in there but this isn't guaranteed, maybe Byrne-Jones will be the saving grace.
Title: Re: Bully's Boys
Post by: quinny88 on March 02, 2016, 02:24:27 AM
I wouldnt worry about D6 when you have Hartley there. Collins and Tippa are fine to sit on the bench.
I would write Selwood off personally. Risky going into a season with a guy that is touch and go to play (revert back to Ablett memories last year) Sloane/Ward for the same price as Selwood or go a Parker type and use the cash for rookies wherever its needed. Still plenty of Nab to be played out and Nab 3 is the important one that we will actually get to see teams as close as they will be to round 1 teams. Really nice team for now!
Title: Re: Bully's Boys
Post by: Ringo on March 02, 2016, 11:15:05 AM
Would not worry to much about Menadue to swing back as you have the flexibility of DPP with him. 

Selwood is a risk so would do that downgrade. Would also be watching Smith in the next 2 NAB matches to gauge his fitness and form.

Structure very sound
Title: Re: Bully's Boys
Post by: sammy123 on March 02, 2016, 08:10:35 PM
Quote from: Bully on March 02, 2016, 02:06:34 AM
The latest update with some expensive rookies in mind, still think I may have to make further cuts and may downgrade Selwood to Parker to free up some space.

Def - Laird, Simpson, Bartel, Smith, M.Brown, Collins (Hartley, Tippa)

Mids - Fyfe, Pendles, Ablett, Selwood, Rockliff, Libba, Crouch, Menadue (Gresham, Mathieson, MacPherson)

Rucks - Goldy, Naitanui (Wyatt)

Forwards - Martin, Barlow, Wells, B.Kennedy, Milera, Kerridge (Pickett, Grimley)


smith up back worries me hasn't set the world on fire

selwood and crouch may not play rd1

fwd line seems good

Cash - $8,300

Still unsure about Collins, Tippa, Mathieson & Pickett, no doubt there will be some more tweaking. There's not much fat left in the coffers but will bring in Parker for Selwood if need be. Hoping to swing Menadue back to the forward line and replace with a cheaper mid. D6 is a massive worry, Tucker is the guy I want in there but this isn't guaranteed, maybe Byrne-Jones will be the saving grace.
Title: Re: Bully's Boys
Post by: Bully on March 02, 2016, 08:25:10 PM
Crouch stays whether he plays round 1 or not, I'm willing to roll the dice as I believe it may only be a one weeker. I can always downgrade him to the best performed rookie after round 2. All this uncertainty makes him a POD, that suits me fine.

As for Selwood, apparently he's a good chance for the practice match against Richmond, can see him being ready for round 1. If not then it will probably be Parker, not a big issue at this stage.

Brodie Smith is a gamble but his finish to 2015 showed he was almost back to his best, 4 tons in his last 7 matches. He can put in the odd shocker but hopefully a move up the ground raises the floor a little.
Title: Re: Bully's Boys
Post by: Bully on March 05, 2016, 09:20:54 PM
Not overly confident with the mid rookies and feel they are overpriced to the hilt, the closer we get to kick off the more inclined I am to pick a powerhouse midfield. I have placed Whitecross / Dea in there at the moment but this could easily change to Harwood / Tucker or Weitering / M.Brown.There seems to be a number of solid options out there. I have started Cox instead of Wyatt and will use Petracca for the loophole instead.

Def - Laird, Bartel, Whitecross, Dea, Brown, Hartley (Collins, Tippa)

Mids - Fyfe, Danger, Pendles, Ablett, Rocky, Parker, Libba, Crouch (Menadue, Gresham, Petracca)

Rucks - Goldy, Naitanui (Cox)

Forwards - Martin, Barlow, Wells, B.Kennedy, Milera, Kerridge (Howard, Grimley)

Cash - $3,300

Risky strategy but provided the rookie defenders get games then it should come off. Whitecross played midfield against the Tigers so there's a chance he sees more time on the ball this year, he was a dud last year but has an 84 season to his name, will watch out for the next NAB match. Dea I don't really like but he will go to the bench and Tippa will move on the ground, ideally Tucker plays but not holding my breath. If none of these players get up I will rejig and take Parker out of the side. Other players in defence I may select are Aish & E.McKenzie.

Why the radicalism? Firstly, I want to get a good look at the players who will be top 6 defenders, last year it was a complete surprise and I think this year may be the same. I suspect the midfield rookies will really hurt many teams this year so want to steer clear. Mills playing as a tagger is an omininous sign and is typical of the Swans shenanigans.
Title: Re: Bully's Boys
Post by: RaisyDaisy on March 06, 2016, 12:00:48 PM
As impressive as that midfield looks, you just can't get away with that backline and you'll be missing out on a mid rookie

Yes there doesn't seem to be a lot of them, but with Petracca at M11 you should be able to get another 3-5 come rd1

No way that both WhiteX and Dea and all of those rookies can hold down the fort for 6-8 weeks

Other than that, our teams are the same in terms of structure and most premo's too. I have one less mid (Parker) but 1 more prem def (Shaw or Rance)
Title: Re: Bully's Boys
Post by: eaglesman on March 06, 2016, 01:12:52 PM
I had dea in my team a while ago but I will be juvenile and admit I was influenced by fan footy people to not pick him. Think he is a worthwhile pick .... Whitecross yeah it would be nice if we could be assured the starts and I like many would definitely be picking him ... I was happy with tippa yesterday so I think he plays

May consider a similar backline set up but with weitering just for the added security if one more defensive rookie shows reasonable job security.
Title: Re: Bully's Boys
Post by: Ringo on March 06, 2016, 02:38:59 PM
I think defense is maybe a little weak as well.  With a super strong midfield I would be tempted to drop Crouch and upgrade Whitecross. Few available - Even Hibberd to give you the Def/Mid DPP will give you another $200k to upgrade.
Title: Re: Bully's Boys
Post by: Mat0369 on March 06, 2016, 04:03:30 PM
Quote from: eaglesman on March 06, 2016, 01:12:52 PM
I had dea in my team a while ago but I will be juvenile and admit I was influenced by fan footy people to not pick him. Think he is a worthwhile pick .... Whitecross yeah it would be nice if we could be assured the starts and I like many would definitely be picking him ... I was happy with tippa yesterday so I think he plays

May consider a similar backline set up but with weitering just for the added security if one more defensive rookie shows reasonable job security.

I had him as a place holder at some point just due to price, I then had a look at his scores at AFL level and felt like puking so I bailed on him then and there.

While the midfield is impressive, it would be pretty tough to be dealing with the sub 50 scores on the other lines with all the rookies. I guess it's all relative and you're thinking at Crouch's price he is good for a 90 so the 90 from Crouch and 55 from Dea compared to a mid price defender and rookie mid is worth more total points.
Title: Re: Bully's Boys
Post by: Bully on March 06, 2016, 10:20:26 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on March 06, 2016, 12:00:48 PM
As impressive as that midfield looks, you just can't get away with that backline and you'll be missing out on a mid rookie

Yes there doesn't seem to be a lot of them, but with Petracca at M11 you should be able to get another 3-5 come rd1

No way that both WhiteX and Dea and all of those rookies can hold down the fort for 6-8 weeks

Other than that, our teams are the same in terms of structure and most premo's too. I have one less mid (Parker) but 1 more prem def (Shaw or Rance)

WhiteX and Dea are place holders at the moment, they are not the perfect scenario either. My preferred backline would be  -

Laird, Bartel, Harwood, Tucker, Brown, Hartley (Collins, Tippa)

As far as points are concerned, I really believe that Tucker will score as many as Mills etc. after all they will be playing a similar role. Ditto Hibberd if he gets a call-up. The extra points will come from a Parker vs Simpson scenario. If Harwood doesn't get picked I will consider Aish & Weitering. Marcus Adams also put in a better performance so he comes into contention.

The problem this year is the mid rookies, the only ones with some certainty are 200k players and I don't like their scoring potential. Grehsam looks solid enough and should play round 1, Menadue is another,but from there it becomes something of a raffle. Petracca probably won't play immediately, Mathieson has a small tank, Dunkley has a massive list of similar types in front of him, Hibberd probably won't play round 1 and the list goes on. Oliver might be a consideration but he's not cheap either.

Title: Re: Bully's Boys
Post by: Bully on March 13, 2016, 02:08:28 AM
So for the latest update, have resisted the temptation to play Crouch at M8, this has a lot to do with the lack of rookie options and some nerves about playing 2 premiums at the bookends. Instead I've divided the funds up and used them to bring in some midpricers and Callum Mills who I think is essential now that the cupboard is bare on the midfield bench. It's actually made me alter my loophole strategy and bring in Petracca, but more on that later.

Def - Laird, Bartel, T.McKenzie, Harwood, Brown, Hartley (Tippa, Ruggles)

Mids - Fyfe, Danger, Pendles, Ablett, Rockliff, Libba, Crouch, Mills (Menadue, Gresham, Petracca)

Rucks - Goldy, Naitanui (Grimley)

Forwards - Martin, Barlow, De Goey, Wells, Milera, Kerridge (Kommer, Adams)

$6,000

So in defence the latest addition is Cannon who has had a stellar NAB Cup and two previous seasons of 80+. Have had him before and know what to expect if he's not tied down to a negating role, Eade has been a bit coy in the pressers, not giving too much away, simply stating that Trent needs to tighten up his defensive game. I'm not totally committed to this selection but McKenzie has looked very impressive, much better than Malceski. As a back-up plan I will downgrade him to Weitering and bring back Ben Kennedy to M11.

In the mids it had to be Mills at M8, no choice now that all the cheap options are a pipe dream. Nevermind as it means there will be plenty of downgrade targets and Mills is good for 75 this year. Petracca is at M11 and I've mulled over this one for quite some time, I could go Weitering & Kennedy but something tells me that Petracca wil replace Kennedy in the long run. I think it will be sooner rather than later, possibly 2-3 games into the season. This is a calculated move because I think a loophole is critical, especially given Gaz is an unknown quantity, Pendles is ageing and Goldy can occasionally put in a stinker. There's also the benefits with his DPP, one can loophole the mids and the forwards, this is especially handy given Menadue plays a stack of Friday night games early in the year.

The rucks are the same only Grimley moves to D3.

Forwards have been altered slightly, Kennedy has been replaced with De Goey, I think this gives the team a much more robust look as De Goey looks a much better prospect and should be good for an 85 average. His disposal can occasionally let him down but compared to Kennedy I feel much more secure. With Wells & Kerridge already firing on all cylinders I feel confident there will be no Rohan holes. Milera has been very good so far and I think will average 70 this season.
Title: Re: Bully's Boys
Post by: GoLions on March 13, 2016, 02:25:34 AM
I literally did the exact same thing like 2 hours ago haha, our teams are almost identical. From what I can see, you have De Goey (who I am really keen on), Dusty, Bartel, Grimley, Ruggles and I have Bennedy, Zorko, Simmo, Currie, Broad. Everything else is exactly the same :P
Title: Re: Bully's Boys
Post by: Fid on March 13, 2016, 08:46:33 AM
Just 4 different to my side...

D1 - D3 and Mills
Title: Re: Bully's Boys
Post by: RaisyDaisy on March 13, 2016, 10:47:03 AM
"Pendles is aging" lol he is only 28

Yesterday he was interviewed after the game and the commentator said something like "old fella" to him, and he was like "old? I'm only 28!"

I played around with De Goey in my side at F3, because I really like him, but decided that he will prob average around 85ish so will need to be upgraded eventually, but then that might always get put off because other upgrades are required before him etc etc so I am leaving him out

I wouldn't be so grim about the mid rookie options. Davis at 102k has to be a decent chance, and Mathieson is very close. I too have Petracca at M11 providing me with DPP and a floating donut

I'm not convinced Ruggles will have long term solid JS just yet, and won't score well but you're a little limited with only 6k so might be worth freeing up a little cash

Solid looking side mate :)

Title: Re: Bully's Boys
Post by: Nige on March 13, 2016, 02:08:59 PM
Pretty nice team, Bully.

My only issue really is Cannon. There's probably about 20 other defender and then some I'd pick before him. I reckon you can do much better than picking him. Replace him with somebody else (Weitering is a good one you mentioned) and that's a solid line up.
Title: Re: Bully's Boys
Post by: Bully on March 13, 2016, 03:41:26 PM
Quote from: Nige on March 13, 2016, 02:08:59 PM
Pretty nice team, Bully.

My only issue really is Cannon. There's probably about 20 other defender and then some I'd pick before him. I reckon you can do much better than picking him. Replace him with somebody else (Weitering is a good one you mentioned) and that's a solid line up.

Haven't committed 100% to Cannon but his form has been very impressive, it seems as though something has clicked even though it's only the preseason. When weighing up the pros & cons, there's only 80k difference bewteen Cannon & Weitering, and there's a chance he hits top gear and becomes a keeper. Will make a final decision dependent on rookie selections.
Title: Re: Bully's Boys
Post by: Bully on March 14, 2016, 03:57:29 PM
This is probably pretty close to the final cut, there may be some issues at D8 but I'll deal with that in due course.

Def - Laird, Bartel, Rich, Dea, Brown, Hartley (Tippa, Ruggles)

Mids - Fyfe, Danger, Pendles, Ablett, Rockliff, Libba, Crouch, Mills (Oliver, Menadue, Gresham)

Rucks - Goldy, NicNat (Grimley)

Forwards - Martin, Barlow, Wells, B.Kennedy, Milera, Kerridge (MacCarthy, Adams)

In defence I've gone full circle and brought back Rich who was one of my first selected several months ago, I've just got a really good feeling about this year and sometimes you have to go on gut instinct. His 16 contested possessions in NAB 3 is a very positive sign and as a worse case scenario I can't see him dropping below 85. Dea comes back in due to his brilliant DE which has been better than Scott Pendlebury, both are basketballers so no surprises there. Ruggles looks a good chance to be promoted and replace Thurlow for the year, I will stick with this selection even if Broad is named, I just think Yarran will replace him when he's fit. Just my two cents on Broad, he's starting to look like a tweener to me, not agile and precise enough for the rebounders role, not tall and strong enough for the KP role.

Mid premos haven't been changed but in comes Oliver to join Mills, I honestly didn't want to spend so much but he's pretty hard to ignore, first year maybe but big bodied mids generally transition much easier than skinny runts like Parish. I have dumped the loophole for now, I just feel cash generation is more important and I want to use Petracca to deposit some money in the coffers. If a guy like Ruggles gets dumped then no tears will spilled, he will become the new loophole guy (another reason to steer clear of Broad).

Rucks are the same although Gawn is making a good case.

Forwards back to the structure I've had most of the year, Kommer is a joke so happy to give him the boot. I think MacCarthy will be good for 55-60 this year, be very similar to Lonie I would think.
Title: Re: Bully's Boys
Post by: Bully on March 18, 2016, 02:47:10 AM
Barring some big surprises at the selection table this will be my final team, finally feel satisfied with all my selections.

Def - Laird, Bartel, Rich, Weitering, Dea, Hartley (Brown, Tippa)

Mids - Fyfe, Danger, Pendlebury, Ablett, Rockliff, Libba, Crouch, Mills (Menadue, Gresham, Davis)

Rucks - Goldstein, Gawn (Grimley)

Forwards - Martin, Barlow, Wells, B.Kennedy, Milera, Kerridge (McCarthy, Adams)

Title: Re: Bully's Boys
Post by: quinny88 on March 18, 2016, 04:02:32 AM
Quote from: Bully on March 18, 2016, 02:47:10 AM
Barring some big surprises at the selection table this will be my final team, finally feel satisfied with all my selections.

Def - Laird, Bartel, Rich, Weitering, Dea, Hartley (Brown, Tippa)

Mids - Fyfe, Danger, Pendlebury, Ablett, Rockliff, Libba, Crouch, Mills (Menadue, Gresham, Davis)

Rucks - Goldstein, Gawn (Grimley)

Forwards - Martin, Barlow, Wells, B.Kennedy, Milera, Kerridge (McCarthy, Adams)

Really solid team Bully. Only thing I noticed is that you dont have any captains loophole options?
Title: Re: Bully's Boys
Post by: baz1 on March 18, 2016, 10:07:45 AM
Quote from: Bully on March 18, 2016, 02:47:10 AM
Barring some big surprises at the selection table this will be my final team, finally feel satisfied with all my selections.

Def - Laird, Bartel, Rich, Weitering, Dea, Hartley (Brown, Tippa)

Mids - Fyfe, Danger, Pendlebury, Ablett, Rockliff, Libba, Crouch, Mills (Menadue, Gresham, Davis)

Rucks - Goldstein, Gawn (Grimley)

Forwards - Martin, Barlow, Wells, B.Kennedy, Milera, Kerridge (McCarthy, Adams)

Nice looking team mate! Love the midfield structure and rucks looks safe as houses.

Only thoughts were whether you were concerned at all about Menadue and Gresham sitting on the pine potentially not playing, I know lack of mid rook options so I'm sure thats just for cash generation.

And defence looks solid - with 3 rookies down back on the field are you at all concerned about Bartel missing games or confident in him (as opposed to KK, Simpson?)

Overall, love it!
Title: Re: Bully's Boys
Post by: Bully on March 18, 2016, 02:07:55 PM
Quote from: quinny88 on March 18, 2016, 04:02:32 AM
Quote from: Bully on March 18, 2016, 02:47:10 AM
Barring some big surprises at the selection table this will be my final team, finally feel satisfied with all my selections.

Def - Laird, Bartel, Rich, Weitering, Dea, Hartley (Brown, Tippa)

Mids - Fyfe, Danger, Pendlebury, Ablett, Rockliff, Libba, Crouch, Mills (Menadue, Gresham, Davis)

Rucks - Goldstein, Gawn (Grimley)

Forwards - Martin, Barlow, Wells, B.Kennedy, Milera, Kerridge (McCarthy, Adams)

Really solid team Bully. Only thing I noticed is that you dont have any captains loophole options?

I'm going without because most will be playing Petracca as a loophole option, this will mean Martin will have to score 130+ against Carlton and Pendles/Martin 130+ in round 2. Martin scored 51 & 68 against the Blues last year, I'm betting that he won't suddenly reverse that trend. Pendles record against Richmond isn't that flash either with 85 & 106. By rounds 3-5 I will probably bring in Petracca and replace my worst performing mid/forward rookie, I'm also hoping to gain some monetary advantage from such a corrective trade. If Petracca is a no-show then I'll just sit on my money generators.

Quote from: baz1 on March 18, 2016, 10:07:45 AM
Quote from: Bully on March 18, 2016, 02:47:10 AM
Barring some big surprises at the selection table this will be my final team, finally feel satisfied with all my selections.

Def - Laird, Bartel, Rich, Weitering, Dea, Hartley (Brown, Tippa)

Mids - Fyfe, Danger, Pendlebury, Ablett, Rockliff, Libba, Crouch, Mills (Menadue, Gresham, Davis)

Rucks - Goldstein, Gawn (Grimley)

Forwards - Martin, Barlow, Wells, B.Kennedy, Milera, Kerridge (McCarthy, Adams)

Nice looking team mate! Love the midfield structure and rucks looks safe as houses.

Only thoughts were whether you were concerned at all about Menadue and Gresham sitting on the pine potentially not playing, I know lack of mid rook options so I'm sure thats just for cash generation.

And defence looks solid - with 3 rookies down back on the field are you at all concerned about Bartel missing games or confident in him (as opposed to KK, Simpson?)

Overall, love it!

KK still hasn't proven himself as a premo, want to see another year of solid scoring. I'm also keen to see how McKenzie, KK and Malceski operate together and want to be assured there will be no point pinching. As for Jimmy missing games, I fully expect that but he's undervalued due to his concussion game, I'm willing to cop the odd week out to get the extra value.
Title: Re: Bully's Boys
Post by: Bully on April 15, 2016, 02:22:14 AM
Had a very ordinary start to the year but somehow feel reasonably content with my structure, the team value is up around 10.08 million and still have 26 trades left after this week. Had bad luck on the injury front and I think that has set me back a tad, Rocky, Crouch & Rich have seen my average slide over the first 3 weeks. However, I have a strong plan over the coming weeks, Rocky is due to slip under 500k and Shaw could feasibly shed another 50k with another poor score. These two are my imminent targets along with possibly Sloane who has a tough run.

Def - Adams, Laird, Weitering, Bartel, Dea, Rich (Brown, Ruggles)

Mids - Danger, Ablett, Hall, Fyfe, Liberatore, Selwood, Pendlebury, Mills  (Menadue, Davis, Hewitt)

Rucks - Goldstein, Gawn (Cox)

Forwards - Wells, Martin, Kennedy, Kerridge, Papley, Barlow (Tippa, Cockatoo)

Note: Hall will be swung back to the forward line in due course, just waiting for the bargains to roll in and for Papley to add another 100k.
Title: Re: Bully's Boys
Post by: Ringo on April 15, 2016, 11:05:59 AM
I would sit this week Bully as rookies will continue to moo. Hewitt is a concern but no real options to trade down to so may have to ride that out for a week or two.
Title: Re: Bully's Boys
Post by: Bully on April 15, 2016, 11:38:08 AM
The timing of Hewitt's omission is fortuitous, Cox has been upgraded and looks like playing so Hewitt becomes the loophole for both Menadue and the captain. Given Mills hasn't been tearing up the track I'll settle on anything north of 70, something which is possible on a flat WA deck. As for the long range projections, not planning on any trades next week unless injury strikes or Barlow spuds it up in a major way.
Title: Re: Bully's Boys
Post by: AaronKirk on April 15, 2016, 01:35:54 PM
Mills playing in SA BTW.

I would be holding trades this week unless you have a lot of cash to make an upgrade. Let the cows moo and pick off your targets you have identified when they come down a bit more in price.
Title: Re: Bully's Boys
Post by: Bully on April 15, 2016, 02:49:51 PM
Quote from: AaronKirk on April 15, 2016, 01:35:54 PM
Mills playing in SA BTW.

So downgrade the target to 60?
Title: Re: Bully's Boys
Post by: RaisyDaisy on April 15, 2016, 03:06:15 PM
I'm looping Menadue with Mills too

Will bank Menadue if he goes 70+
Title: Re: Bully's Boys
Post by: Bully on April 18, 2016, 12:28:52 AM
Just another ballsed up weekend with rookies and loopholes, cost me another 120 points, that's about 350 for the year so I'm just about at my wits end. Anyhow, looking at culling Papley for Darcy Byrne-Jones and maybe replacing Barlow, although there seems to be a good case for the other Byrne. Not sure who I should cull for a second downgrade, Hewitt being the obvious choice although it would entail swinging Rich into the mids which I don't really want to do. Any suggestions?




Def - Adams, Laird, Weitering, Bartel, Dea, Rich (Brown, Ruggles)

Mids - Danger, Ablett, Hall, Fyfe, Liberatore, Selwood, Pendlebury, Mills  (Menadue, Davis, Hewitt)

Rucks - Goldstein, Gawn (Cox)

Forwards - Wells, Martin, Kennedy, Kerridge, Papley, Barlow (Tippa, Cockatoo)
Title: Re: Bully's Boys
Post by: Ringo on April 18, 2016, 12:37:35 PM
How much cash do you have - After the Paps trade do you have enough to upgrade Kennedy to either a prem mid via Menadue or a prem forawrd.  just an additional thought gicen Kennedy has a B/e of 56 and nearing ceiling.

Can not really see a way of getting both Byrne without moving Bartel or Rich to mids.
Title: Re: Bully's Boys
Post by: Bully on April 18, 2016, 09:12:10 PM
I have 2k in the bank and will have 100k from the Papley trade. The other option is to keep Barlow for now and wait for Rocky and Shaw to bottom out, that may make more sense instead of culling more rookies prematurely.
Title: Re: Bully's Boys
Post by: Bully on April 26, 2016, 01:41:52 AM
Should have taken my own advice but I was one of the donkeys who ditched Barlow in favour of Merrett, still could pay off but I've potentially thrown 70k out the window. Nevermind, mistakes do happen. Anyhow, I'm in the mood for a bargain and that player is Marc Murphy. He's 440k due to his injury and I liked his game on the weekend, looks to have regained some serious swagger. Last year he averaged 103 which I'll take at this stage, the benefit of such a move is I'll be able to lock in Shaw so I can nullify the 36% of teams that have him. The sacrificial lamb is Weitering, great job son, you've earned your keep.

Def - Shaw, Laird, Adams, Bartel, Rich, Byrne-Jones (Ruggles, Dea)

Mids - Dangerfield, Ablett, Hall, Selwood, Pendlebury, Liberatore, Murphy, Mills (Menadue, Hewitt, Davis)

Rucks - Goldy, Gawn (Cox)

Forwards - Merrett, Wells, Martin, Kerridge, Kennedy, Tippa  (Brown, Cockatoo)
Title: Re: Bully's Boys
Post by: Bully on May 02, 2016, 01:10:21 AM
Seems my trades last week were timed perfectly, replacing Shaw with Weitering was the winning move that enabled me to clinch all my league matches. Still seething about dropping Barlow but I won't be making anymore dumbass sideways rage trades, happens every year and I never seem to learn. In any case, Murphy did well enough and now has a BE of 51 so should start his steady climb back to 550k.

This week it's Rocky time, 486k and will only get better. People need to be reminded of Rocky's finish to last season, just for a recap he scored 135, 115, 145, 122, 146 & 152. The kid's still got it and it would be slightly disingenious to grab him only when he hits 'form'. The Rockstar will be back and he has a BE of 84, grab him now or waste 100k+ down the track. Next week Petracca is on the bubble so that's already a priority and there may even be some other rookies emerge from the pack.

Backs - Shaw, Laird, Bartel, Rich, Adams, Byrne-Jones (Dea, Ruggles)

Mids - Danger, Ablett, Selwood, Pendlebury, Liberatore, Murphy, Rockliff, Mills (Hewitt, Davis, Smith)

Rucks - Gawn, Goldy (Cox)

Forwards - Hall, Merrett, Wells, Martin, Kerridge, Cockatoo (Menadue, Brown)   

Title: Re: Bully's Boys
Post by: Bully on May 09, 2016, 01:03:56 PM
The curse of Rocky!!  :o :o :o

WTF! De Ja Vu, only this time I'm holding and putting the runt on the bench. Will probably be 2-3 but the plan is to beef up the bench for the bye period with fallen premos, don't want to be fielding too many rookies and this is where guys like Rocky will come in handy.

Anyhow, this week wasn't too bad given the Sunday carnage, pushed up 2000 spots and have climbed the charts for 4 straight weeks. Still some distance from the top 1000 hovering in the low 4000's but it's within sight for the first time this season.

This week will do a double downgrade, Petracca & Keays in for Mills & Davis, this puts 323k in the bank for two upgrades or possibly one upgrade and Darcy MacPherson. As far as rookies are concerned we're getting a little thin with Trengove being the only decent prospect pressing for selection. This could be the last real opportunity to put some cash in the bank.

Targets next week are McVeigh & Priddis, both have very high BE's and both are proven super premos in their respective positions. Seems strange to be looking at a guy like Priddis who has registered three 70 something scores but he's a much better player than that. BE is 152 so maybe best to wait a couple, in which case it will be McVeigh & MacPherson. Also keen on getting Zorko in at some stage.

Backs - Shaw, Bartel, Adams, Rich, Byrne-Jones, Brown (Laird, Ruggles)

Mids - Dangerfield, Selwood, Ablett, Pendlebury, Liberatore, Murphy, Petracca, Hewett (Rockliff, Keays, J.Smith)

Rucks - Gawn, Goldstein (Cox)

Forwards - Hall, Merrett, Martin, Wells, Kerridge, B.Kennedy (Menadue, Cockatoo)

Title: Re: Bully's Boys
Post by: Bully on May 16, 2016, 12:32:07 AM
What looked like an awful week wasn't too bad in the end, scored 2090 and managed to edge up into the 3000's. Last weeks trades went well with both Keays & Petracca scoring well with the added responsibility of covering for the spate of injuries. This week I've decided to rectify the backline instead of leaping on Priddis. I've changed course due to Brown's pathetic effort and the fact that Priddis still has a BE of 95, so shouldn't go up too much even if if kills it. If Hopper puts in another gun performance I may even bypass Priddis altogether and grab Zorko instead, but I'll leave that until next week.

So this weeks outs are Brown & Cockatoo with Docherty & MacPherson the new additions. I like these trades given Doch is due to shoot up in price and provides a 45 point improvement on Brown's output. Cockatoo to Macpherson also puts 180k in the coffers for next week.

Here's the team as it stands.

Def - Shaw, Docherty, Laird, Bartel, Rich, Byrne-Jones (Adams, Ruggles)

Mids - Dangerfield, Pendlebury, Selwood, Ablett, Liberatore, Murphy, Smith, Keays (Rockliff, Hewitt, MacPherson)

Rucks - Gawn, Goldy (Cox)

Forwards - Merrett, Hall, Martin, Wells, Kerrdige, B. Kennedy (Menadue, Petracca)

$294,100 in the bank
Title: Re: Bully's Boys
Post by: GoLions on May 16, 2016, 01:14:56 AM
Yeah I like the trades, although maybe something which I am considering;

Keep Brown, and trade Menadue instead. Move Brown into the forward line to get that fwd/def link wwith Adams. Seeing as Menadue and Brown are in about the same position in terms of cash generation and BE (I think), could be the better move for now.
Title: Re: Bully's Boys
Post by: Carn on May 16, 2016, 10:31:21 AM
Strong backline. Can I ask why you have chosen to upgrade your backline premos before your mids?
Title: Re: Bully's Boys
Post by: Bully on May 16, 2016, 11:15:52 AM
Quote from: Carn on May 16, 2016, 10:31:21 AM
Strong backline. Can I ask why you have chosen to upgrade your backline premos before your mids?

Really good question, I had planned on bringing in Priddis this week which would have pushed Murphy to M8 (obviously when Rockliff returns) but Hopper has changed all that. If his form this week is anything to go by then he could quite feasibly fill the M8-M9 position right through the bye period. I have two positions vacant in the mids, one for Gray/Priddis and one hopefully for Hannebury who is looking like a clear top 8.

Quote from: GoLions on May 16, 2016, 01:14:56 AM
Yeah I like the trades, although maybe something which I am considering;

Keep Brown, and trade Menadue instead. Move Brown into the forward line to get that fwd/def link wwith Adams. Seeing as Menadue and Brown are in about the same position in terms of cash generation and BE (I think), could be the better move for now.

I thought about trading Menadue but I'm holding given he'll be in the gun as early as next week. If Hopper knocks out another strong score it will be Hewitt to Hopper, Menadue to Zorko/Dahlhaus/Deledio/Montanga. I like the idea of having two swingmen but in the end Brown will need to go anyway. Being 300k he's absolutely maxed out, I think the time is right.
Title: Re: Bully's Boys
Post by: Bully on May 23, 2016, 01:09:42 PM
This was shaping up as the week from hell, just to give you an indication of my personal carnage, I had zero bench coverage apart from Cox. This changed when Ruggles got a late call-up, just as well as I wasn't too keen on Menadue being fielded. Last week's proposed trades were slightly modified, instead of ditching Brown, Hewitt got the chop. In the end there was little difference in their output and cash generation so not such a big issue.

So with the week done and dusted I ended up with a score of 2300 and rose 500 places into the low 3000's. The loss of MacPherson the only real low light but on the bright side, he made a quick 50k and is now the obvious trade for Hopper. Incidentally, last week's strategy of overlooking Priddis in favour of Docherty was a wise one both in term of points and cash generation. This week it's Priddis' turn, at 502k and with back to back hundreds he's a no brainer, M Brown has run his course so it's time to cut and run.

Def - Shaw, Docherty, Bartel, Laird, Rich, Adams (Byrne-Jones, Ruggles)

Mids - Dangerfield, Pendlebury, Selwood, Ablett, Priddis, Liberatore, Murphy, Rockliff  (Smith, Keays, Hopper)

Rucks - Goldstein, Gawn (Cox)

Forwards - Martin, Merrett, Hall, Wells, Kerridge, B.Kennedy (Menadue, Petracca)

So what's the strategy moving forward? I think next week may have to be either cash generation or a forward upgrade. Those on the short list are Zorko, Deledio & Montagna. Would love to get them all in at some stage but will assess the best option next week. Smith will probably rise to 280k so it could be time to cull him for Mathieson, that would put me in the market for a forward under the 540k mark.

Title: Re: Bully's Boys
Post by: Bully on May 30, 2016, 04:53:26 PM
Not a good week at all, dropped 500 places and had to cop Murphy's untimely injury which was as good as a donut. In the end I scored 2158 which could have been so much better had I VC'd Gawn instead of Goldy and didn't have to deal with a pathetic 12 from Murphy. Anyhow, time to put this week to bed and focus on the byes, this is the three week period which will be so critical to my chances of crashing through to the top 1000. Everything to date has been geared towards this and it has traditionally been a time when the serious contenders emerge from the pack.

Three pressing issues to deal with this week, Bennedy has to go as he will be leaking money with the 29 in his rolling average. Mathieson is also a priority, can't say he's set the world on fire but he's one of the few rookies who have a favourable bye structure. The other pressing need is getting rid of Murphy who looks set to hit 380k over the next few weeks, he may still be useful as a Hopper upgrade but will assess that in round 15. To complicate matters I'm particularly keen on Gray but will struggle to get everything else done so may have to cop a 15k price increase next week.

So this week's trades will likely be Murphy to Mathieson & Bennedy to Dahlhaus. I mulled over all the gun forwards - Zorko, Deledio & Joey, but have plumped for Luke given he's 40k cheaper than Zorko and has demonstrated a similar consistency with only a couple of blips. These moves should leave just enough in the coffers to do Menadue to Collins & Smith to Gray next week. That would effectively clear out most of my deadwood leading into round 13.

Backs - Shaw, Docherty, Bartel, Laird, Rich, Adams (Byrne-Jones, Ruggles)

Mids - Dangerfield, Pendlebury, Ablett, Selwood, Priddis, Liberatore, Rockliff, Hopper (Smith, Keays, Mathieson)

Rucks - Goldstein, Gawn  (Cox)

Forwards - Dahlhaus, Martin, Merrett, Hall, Wells, Kerridge (Menadue, Petracca)
Title: Re: Bully's Boys
Post by: Ringo on May 30, 2016, 05:58:50 PM
Solid plan Bully and hope the SC gods smile on you.
Title: Re: Bully's Boys
Post by: Bully on June 02, 2016, 10:07:07 PM
Quote from: Ringo on May 30, 2016, 05:58:50 PM
Solid plan Bully and hope the SC gods smile on you.

Reckon the gods have smiled on me already as Tucker has emerged and Trengove will get his first game. Slight change of plans now that Matho is off the board, Tucker in, Bennedy out, Murphy to Gray. That leaves 156k in the kitty for next week which will be enough for Dahlhaus.

Backs - Shaw, Docherty, Bartel, Laird, Rich, Byrne-Jones (Ruggles, Tucker)

Mids - Dangerfield, Pendlebury, Ablett, Selwood, Gray, Priddis, Liberatore, Rockliff (Smith, Keays, Hopper)

Rucks - Goldy, Gawn (Cox)

Forwards - Martin, Merrett, Hall, Wells, Kerridge, Adams (Petracca, Menadue)

Ruggles to Collins looks like a solid trade next week, will be touch and go as to whether I'll have the cash to go Menadue to Dahlhaus but here's hoping that Ruggles pumps out another 70 and Dahlhaus goes sub 100.
Title: Re: Bully's Boys
Post by: Bully on June 06, 2016, 01:50:00 PM
(http://i300.photobucket.com/albums/nn6/sco_9a/Rocky_zpsq4zug2nq.jpg) (http://s300.photobucket.com/user/sco_9a/media/Rocky_zpsq4zug2nq.jpg.html)

Thanks to GOAT I'm back in the game, held him through the tough times and he's paid back the faith. This week was by far my best for the year, 2497 and am now sitting at 1034, within reach of the top tier and fully prepared for the bye period. As far as trades go this week, I think it's time to offload Hall and bring in Zorko. I've been patiently waiting for a spud score to roll in but much like Hanners, it just hasn't materialised. The worst Zorko has dished up has been a 97, hardly terrible stuff but I'll use this as a buying opportunity given Brisbane have a nice run coming up playing Freo, West Coast at home, Richmond & Gold Coast. Thought long and hard about Dahlhaus given he's a bargain at 519k but with a 69 in the rolling average feel that he can be picked up either next week or in round 15.

So with Collins in for Ruggles and Hall making way for Zorko, the team is as follows.

Backs - Shaw, Docherty, Bartel, Laird, Rich, Byrne-Jones (Collins, Tucker)

Mids - Danger, Pendlebury, Ablett, Selwood, Priddis, Gray, Rockliff, Liberatore (Smith, Keays, Hopper)

Rucks - Goldy, Gawn (Cox)

Forwards - Zorko, Merrett, Martin, Wells, Kerridge, Adams (Petracca, Menadue)

Looking ahead to my final preparations for the bye rounds, I intend to use all three trades next week, it will only leave 7 trades left for the season but I should have enough money for an extra upgrade which will leave me with a full team by round 14. I think I'm going to run with Adams at D6 and Libba at M8 for now.

So this is how I hope it will pan out for that all important round 13.

Def - Shaw, Docherty, Bartel, Laird, Rich, Byrne-Jones (Collins, Tucker) = 6

Mids - Danger, Pendlebury, Ablett, Selwood, Priddis, Gray, Rockliff, Liberatore (Jansen, Trengove, Hopper) = 9

Rucks - Goldstein, Gawn (Cox) = 2

Forwards - Zorko, Merrett, Deledio, Martin, Wells, Kerridge (Adams, Petracca) =  5

Total = 22

This formation should eliminate all the poor rookie scores, the week after I plan on using the residual cash to bring in another defensive premo for Byrne-Jones, possibly Rance who looks to be excellent value. Dahlhaus or Joey will be on the cards the following week.
Title: Re: Bully's Boys
Post by: _wato on June 06, 2016, 07:55:51 PM
Team looks really really good man. What are your plans for Round 15 though?

Docherty, Laird, DBJ/Rance
Pendles, Ablett, Pridda, Gray, Libba, Smith
Gawn, Cox
Merrett, Dusty, Kerridge, Adams, Tracca

So two donuts?
Title: Re: Bully's Boys
Post by: RaisyDaisy on June 06, 2016, 07:57:15 PM
Pretty sure he will trade Hopper and one of Tucker/Collins after Rd14

Nice looking team Bully!

I'm having a cow a year :(

Good Luck with your pursuit of Top 100 - reckon you're a good chance :)
Title: Re: Bully's Boys
Post by: Bully on June 06, 2016, 08:41:22 PM
Quote from: _wato on June 06, 2016, 07:55:51 PM
Team looks really really good man. What are your plans for Round 15 though?

Docherty, Laird, DBJ/Rance
Pendles, Ablett, Pridda, Gray, Libba, Smith
Gawn, Cox
Merrett, Dusty, Kerridge, Adams, Tracca

So two donuts?

Menadue becomes Dahlhaus or Deledio next week, just need to monitor the health of my list at the end of round 12 to see if I need an additional round 14 player. The other move will be Tucker out, Adams back to defence and Joey to the forwards.

If I really need to generate cash I have a strategy which involves trading out a guy like Hopper, moving Kerridge to the mids, moving Cox to the forwards and bringing in a 102k ruck/forward. I intend to do this at some stage as I'm keen to loophole my forwards.

After the bye period I suspect I will only have 4-5 trades remaining. This will hopefully cover any long term injuries, it may be cutting things fine with 7 rounds to go but I'm prepared to roll the dice.

Quote from: RaisyDaisy on June 06, 2016, 07:57:15 PM
Pretty sure he will trade Hopper and one of Tucker/Collins after Rd14

Nice looking team Bully!

I'm having a cow a year :(

Good Luck with your pursuit of Top 100 - reckon you're a good chance :)

Cheers Raisy, I feel your pain, that was me last year, every single 50/50 decision turned out to be the wrong one. Sometimes SC can be a cruel game. I think you mentioned it earlier in the season but first instinct is usually the best one, that's been my mantra this year.
Title: Re: Bully's Boys
Post by: Bully on June 06, 2016, 09:12:29 PM
And I'll just add that Trengove will play round 15 so I should be fairly safe to get a full quota of players. The fact that all the rookies have their bye in round 14 or 15 is a real bonus this year, it's one reason I've loaded up for a full premo assault in round 13.
Title: Re: Bully's Boys
Post by: Bully on June 14, 2016, 07:06:16 PM
The agony and the ecstasy, well one would expect to be over the moon with a score of 2653, and don't get me wrong, I'm still delighted with that tally. But my decision to move the VC off Danger and onto Rocky cost me 105 points and left me out of the running for the weekly prize. As it turned out it would have been disappointment anyway, third place was 2767, so 9 points short of the $250 presuming I had the Danger windfall.

Anyhow, I'm into the top 1000 for the first time this year, ranked 378 and well placed with the byes coming up. I don't plan on anything too radical this week apart from some possible downgrades. I think Keays to Trengove is looking good and may also consider Hopper to Mathieson if named.

My targets for next week will be Montagna and Simpson, I'd also like to slip Deledio into the equation but would need to make an early call on Phillips this week. Still undecided whether I should go all guns blazing but will assess that when the teams are named.

So the team for this week will probably look something like this -

Defence - Shaw, Bartel, Rich, Byrne-Jones, Tucker, Collins (Docherty, Laird)

Mids - Dangerfield, Selwood, Priddis, Gray, Rockliff, Liberatore, Trengove, Hopper (Smith, Ablett, Pendlebury)

Rucks - Goldstein, Gawn (Cox)

Forwards - Zorko, Merrett, Wells, Adams, Petracca, Kerridge (Martin, Menadue)

So that tallies up to 21 starters and 13 premos, hopefully sufficient to get me something close to 2000.

I haven't quite worked out the permutations to acquire Joey & Simpson but hopefully I can rid myself of Menadue in the process. Phillips will also be a likely replacement for Smith.
Title: Re: Bully's Boys
Post by: Ringo on June 14, 2016, 07:30:46 PM
Nice Bully - Expect Mattho to replace Keays this week so you will be able to do that.

I am looking at Tags but he has a B/e of 122 so may not bring him in till Rd 15 given that I have 14 premos playing Rd 14 but will assess next week.
Title: Re: Bully's Boys
Post by: Bully on June 14, 2016, 07:42:48 PM
Quote from: Ringo on June 14, 2016, 07:30:46 PM
Nice Bully - Expect Mattho to replace Keays this week so you will be able to do that.

I am looking at Tags but he has a B/e of 122 so may not bring him in till Rd 15 given that I have 14 premos playing Rd 14 but will assess next week.

This is true, Joey could drop another 20k or so, will wait and assess the numbers for round 14. At the moment I have 19 starters, so may need to beef it up with another premo or two. Simpson is well priced at the moment so he's almost a certainty.
Title: Re: Bully's Boys
Post by: Bully on June 20, 2016, 07:40:32 PM
Not too bad this week apart from missing out on another Danger bonanza. Finished with 1948 and have moved up to 310 in the rankings. This week's trades will be Hopper to Montagna and DBJ to Simpson. I currently have 19 starters this week so don't need to jump on Phillips a week early. Next week I'll trade out Tucker and swing Adams back to D7, that should leave approximately 120k in the kitty.

The team this week is looking decent, with 16 premos and Kerridge, Jansen & Cox. I'll be hoping to hit 2000 and crash through to the top 100. Given my team will be threadbare next week it's critical I climb a 100 spots or so.

Def - Shaw, Docherty, Simpson, Bartel, Laird, Rich (Tucker, Collins)

Mids - Dangerfield, Selwood, Pendlebury, Ablett, Montanga, Rockliff, Jansen, Gray (Priddis, Liberatore, Trengove)

Rucks - Goldstein, Cox (Gawn)

Forwards - Zorko, Martin, Wells, Kerridge, Merrett, Adams (Petracca, Menadue)

The plan next week will be to bring in Deledio for Kerridge, that effectively leaves me with a full team but two glaring weak spots , that being Rich & Liberatore. Given I will only have 4 trades remaining, I'm not so sure I can deal with both and leave myself adequate injury trades. I could trade out Adams but i like having the security of an 80+ defender to cover for any injuries.

The other option would be to trade out Adams this week and then do a triple upgrade the week after. Rich to Boyd, Libba to Hannebury & Kerridge to Deledio. That leaves me only two trades for the rest of the season.

What do people reckon?
Title: Re: Bully's Boys
Post by: GoLions on June 20, 2016, 07:45:42 PM
I'd probably say upgrade Libba and keep Rich at this point.

Team is looking good man, hope you can crack into the top 100! :D
Title: Re: Bully's Boys
Post by: RaisyDaisy on June 20, 2016, 07:51:37 PM
Very similar position to myself Bully, in that trades are running very low and we still have guys like Libba that would be ideally upgraded

2 trades is a massive risk, so I think you need to just hold Libba and Rich for the next month or so and then if you still have a few trades left make that luxury then

I've got Libba and Hall, and would love to upgrade them both but just need to hold a few trades a bit longer
Title: Re: Bully's Boys
Post by: Bully on June 20, 2016, 08:12:40 PM
Quote from: GoLions on June 20, 2016, 07:45:42 PM
I'd probably say upgrade Libba and keep Rich at this point.

Team is looking good man, hope you can crack into the top 100! :D

I think that's probably the best wise thing to do, Hanners has a huge BE and is predicted to drop to 530k. If all goes to plan, I'll be able to pick him up for an additional 50k, hopefully the Kerridge to Deledio trade leaves just enough in the coffers.

Quote from: RaisyDaisy on June 20, 2016, 07:51:37 PM
Very similar position to myself Bully, in that trades are running very low and we still have guys like Libba that would be ideally upgraded

2 trades is a massive risk, so I think you need to just hold Libba and Rich for the next month or so and then if you still have a few trades left make that luxury then

I've got Libba and Hall, and would love to upgrade them both but just need to hold a few trades a bit longer

Two trades is cutting thing incredibly fine, no doubt about it. I really need to make allowances for the 2-3 week injuries & suspensions that will almost certainly occur in the last month of the season.
Title: Re: Bully's Boys
Post by: Bully on June 28, 2016, 02:56:11 AM
It has to be said that I'm disappointed with where I stand after the two byes, Zorko & Wells being late outs caused a fair bit of grief and despite scrambling to fill the void with Deledio I'm a long way out from where I planned leading into round 15. My rank of 266 has left me well out from the top 100 and it's now time to get really aggressive, whether that leaves me with few trades then so be it but I'm not going to be content with another mid table finish in the top 1000.

So this weeks trades will be Tucker to Phillips, Kerridge to Treloar, which leaves me with only 3 trades with one reserved for Dahlhaus (in all probability a swap for Libba). I have 50k in the bank so will also be looking at upgrading Petracca to another 100+ forward which will reduce the trades down to one. Living on the edge for sure but all teams are starting to look identical so best to go all guns blazing now rather than later.

Here's the team for this week.

Def - Shaw, Docherty, Simpson, Bartel, Laird, Rich (Adams, Collins)

Mids - Danger, Pendlebury, Selwood, Ablett, Rockliff, Treloar, Priddis, Gray (Liberatore, Trengove, Jansen)

Rucks - Goldy, Gawn (Cox)

Forwards - Zorko, Martin, Merrett, Montagna, Deledio, Petracca (Menadue, Phillips)

As far as this week is concerned, I have 19 starters with Menadue the 20th on the bench. My premos come to 14 which is solid in the scheme of things. This really has to be the week I make up the ground otherwise I sense it will be stagnation.
Title: Re: Bully's Boys
Post by: Bully on June 28, 2016, 01:13:18 PM
Version 2.0, have thought about the prospect of Petracca at F6 for 3 weeks and it makes me nervous, feel I need to address this now and wait patiently for Dahlhaus, meanwhile my cows will hopefully fatten enough to make a one trade transition. This particular model will use up all three trades this week but I will technically have a full team with Libba at M9, Collins at D7 and Phillips at F7 (for now of course). 98k in the kitty so I will require one of Trengove, Jansen, Menadue or Phillips to hit 320k (based on Dahlhaus dropping another 60k). It's a gamble but the salary predictor has him hitting 418k, it's a risk worth taking in my opinion.

Trades will be Petracca to Phillips, Kerridge to Treloar & Adams to Franklin. Team will be as follows.

Backs - Shaw, Docherty, Simpson, Bartel, Laird, Rich (Collins, Tucker)

Mids - Danger, Pendlebury, Ablett, Selwood, Rockliff, Treloar, Gray, Priddis (Liberatore, Trengove, Jansen)

Rucks - Goldy, Gawn (Cox)

Forwards - Zorko, Martin, Deledio, Merrett, Montagna, Franklin (Menadue, Phillips)

With two trades left this is risky but I can hold off trading for 2-3 weeks barring some major catastrophe.
Title: Re: Bully's Boys
Post by: RaisyDaisy on June 28, 2016, 01:23:57 PM
I know you're keen to complete your side and continue moving up the rankings, but don't get too caught up in the now

There's still 8-9 rounds of footy to go - and to only have 2 trades for such a long time is risky indeed

All it takes is one or two players to miss a couple of weeks, or cop and LTI and all the ground you make up now will be lost later in the season when you're relying on rookies or even worse, donuts

I've got 4 trades left myself, and still have 2 def rookies on field. It's been a rough year, but I can use two trades now to get another prem def into the side, but I think I might just delay that move for a few weeks just so I can try and get through the next few weeks with 4 trades, because all of a sudden 4 trades with only 4-5 weeks left is a lot more manageable.

Not ideal having to rely on 2 def rookies for a few more weeks and copping their scores, but I guess it's short term pain for hopefully long term gain

All that being said though, that team looks very good and I'd be very happy with that for the rest of the year so 2 trades left could potentially work, luck permitted

Good luck with whatever you decide mate

Title: Re: Bully's Boys
Post by: Bully on June 28, 2016, 01:51:16 PM
It's risky for sure but this is the round to make a charge, just about every team is looking the same and I feel I need to hit the top 100 now or it will never happen. I'm most vulnerable over the next few weeks but once I get Dahlhaus in the side I can wear long term injuries in the forwards and mids. Collins also looks a mainstay so no problems there.
Title: Re: Bully's Boys
Post by: Ringo on June 28, 2016, 02:42:49 PM
Have you any way of getting one of Menadue or Phillips to mids to give you a DPP to help out rather than both on forwards bench in these trades.  Something to think about but apart from that solid and worth the risk.
Title: Re: Bully's Boys
Post by: Bully on June 28, 2016, 03:49:08 PM
Quote from: Ringo on June 28, 2016, 02:42:49 PM
Have you any way of getting one of Menadue or Phillips to mids to give you a DPP to help out rather than both on forwards bench in these trades.  Something to think about but apart from that solid and worth the risk.

Not possible if I want maximum cash flow, something which is essential to complete my side with Dahlhaus as my final inclusion. My prediction is Menadue will be the one to hit the 320k mark, with the 130 in his rolling average he only needs an 80 this week and it's just about a done deal. By that stage the DPP is less of an issue as I have Libba & Trengove as cover, that's solid enough in the mids. Throw in Dahlhaus/Franklin at F7 and I can weather any short term absences. I'll still have 1 trade up the sleeve for any season ending injury.
Title: Re: Bully's Boys
Post by: Bully on July 08, 2016, 04:30:18 PM
Finished the bye period making only marginal gains, a bit disappointed with Trengove's axing given my trades were locked in on Thursday. Nevermind, I'm sitting at 325, not impossible to crack the top 100 from here but might be difficult given the sameness of many sides and the fact I'm down to 2 trades. My move of Libba to M9 was a long term decision which will pay off I believe, particularly given the poor job security of the rookies. I still want Dahlhaus and in a perfect world Jansen piles on the cash and I get my floating donut with Phillips (who is actually more valuable out of the side).

So with 2 trades left I'm holding firm for now, Rich is bugging me but he stays for now.

Def - Shaw, Docherty, Simpson, Bartel, Laird, Rich (Tucker. Collins)

Mids - Danger, Pendlebury, Ablett, Selwood, Rockliff, Gray, Priddis, Treloar (Liberatore, Jansen, Trengove)

Rucks - Goldy, gawn (Cox)

Forwards - Zorko, Martin, Merrett, Deledio, Montagna, Franklin (Menadue, Phillips)
Title: Re: Bully's Boys
Post by: PICCOLLO on July 08, 2016, 04:40:41 PM
Your fwd cover looks shaky but two trades mean you can't do anything but hold at this stage.  Libba at m9 works but a m/f premo would have been more helpful to cover the fwd line outs.

That said, you have a good rank and your team is capable of putting out some decent scores. Hopefully you can keep things together over the next few weeks. Good luck
Title: Re: Bully's Boys
Post by: Bully on July 08, 2016, 04:50:14 PM
Quote from: PICCOLLO on July 08, 2016, 04:40:41 PM
Your m/f cover looks shaky but two trades mean you can't do anything but hold at this stage.  Libba at m9 works but a m/f premo would have been more helpful to cover the fwd line outs.

That said, you have a good rank and your team is capable of putting out some decent scores. Hopefully you can keep things together over the next few weeks. Good luck

Yep, I'm incredibly vulnerable to any forwards missing in action. If the gods are smiling on me, I get through the next 3 weeks and get Dahlhaus to M10, I have 100k in the bank so need Jansen to hit 320k. This will enable me to use Phillips as a loophole for both lines and also provides solid cover if a forward goes down. Will be down to one trade but will have a very strong squad.
Title: Re: Bully's Boys
Post by: PICCOLLO on July 08, 2016, 04:54:49 PM
Quote from: Bully on July 08, 2016, 04:50:14 PM
Quote from: PICCOLLO on July 08, 2016, 04:40:41 PM
Your m/f cover looks shaky but two trades mean you can't do anything but hold at this stage.  Libba at m9 works but a m/f premo would have been more helpful to cover the fwd line outs.

That said, you have a good rank and your team is capable of putting out some decent scores. Hopefully you can keep things together over the next few weeks. Good luck

Yep, I'm incredibly vulnerable to any forwards missing in action. If the gods are smiling on me, I get through the next 3 weeks and get Dahlhaus to M10, I have 100k in the bank so need Jansen to hit 320k. This will enable me to use Phillips as a loophole for both lines and also provides solid cover if a forward goes down. Will be down to one trade but will have a very strong squad.


You'll have good cover after that. The other benefit is being able to loophole your bench premoes to eek out more of a score.  I have 7 premoes up fwd including Dahl. Just trying to hang on until he gets back and not have to field rookies.
Title: Re: Bully's Boys
Post by: Bully on July 12, 2016, 01:00:15 PM
Not being around the internet to loophole Danger cost me another 40 odd points, this has ultimately been the difference this year between top 100 and where I stand now. Moved up 6 spots so not the end of the world. With Ablett out I'm pretty much resigned to not picking up Dahlhaus, unless of course he is available closer to 2nd week of finals. Will pick up Hanners and just hope there are no more long term injuries.

One trade left in the bank, can deal with one more season ending injury and then hope my depth holds me in good stead.

Def - Shaw, Docherty, Simpson, Bartel, Laird, Rich (Tucker. Collins)

Mids - Danger, Pendlebury, Hannebury, Selwood, Rockliff, Gray, Priddis, Treloar (Liberatore, Jansen, Trengove)

Rucks - Goldy, Gawn (Cox)

Forwards - Zorko, Martin, Merrett, Deledio, Montagna, Franklin (Menadue, Phillips)
Title: Re: Bully's Boys
Post by: Bully on July 18, 2016, 01:46:49 AM
It seems very strange not being able to discuss trades but that's the way it's panned out with Laird's last minute omission. Untimely is an understatement given I had locked in the Ablett trade on Thursday and was scrambling around to prevent a donut in defence. With the complete picture I would have traded Ablett to Boyd and swung Libba back to M8, leaving one trade for a Dahlhaus inclusion. That wasn't possible and it was Libba for Boyd instead, with Hanners coming in for Gaz. Now with Deledio doubtful I will be relying on rookie scores for the next week or two, not ideal but not the end of the world either.

Anyhow, it was a good week with a 2482 score and I'm now sitting at 212 which is my highest rank for the year. The team is strong apart from the bench, but with zero trades it will be luck from this this point on. The final team is as follows.

Def - Docherty, Shaw, Simpson, Boyd, Bartel, Laird (Collins, Tucker)

Mids - Danger, Pendlebury, Hannebery, Selwood, Rockliff, Gray, Priddis, Treloar (Rich, Jansen Trengove)

Rucks - Goldy, Gawn (Cox)

Forwards - Zorko, Martin, Merrett, Montanga, Deledio, Franklin (Menadue, Phillips)

I reckon I was one trade short this year, Jansen to Dahlhaus would have been perfect but that's the way it goes. I still have cash sitting in the bank that will never be used, I guess that's just the price of refusing to eat a donut.

In hindsight was blowing my last trade worth it? Absolutely, even if Deledio is out for the year I have gained 90 points and have finally dealt with Rich. That's worth 200+ points alone. Chances are there will be more speed humps along the way but hopefully no more donuts, top 100 still an outside chance.