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Title: Euro Drafting and Trading at the end of the year.
Post by: Holz on May 29, 2012, 03:15:04 PM
Ok so alot of people have been asking and this is my plan for how the drafting will occur this year. Its open to change and imrpovement and any advice would be helpful but at this stage this is the plan.

Ok so first thing is that squads size will be increased this year you will have your list of 35 that you already have but you can add a rookie list of 6 players. Just an explanation of the rookie list, it will work basically like the real one and when one of your players is placed on the LTI list than you can replace them with the rookie. So for my team when Lecras went down i coudl have brought a player of my rookie list.  The plan is also for a mid season upgrade so you if you have no injuries you can take a guy of your rookie list and have 5 instead of 6 and 36 in your sqaud not 35. Need to read a litle more into the rookie list rules. But i think a mid season upgrade is good as if you have a star in the sqaud it would be frustrating not being able to play them.

Now the plan is that you take your 5 (or less if you skip) picks in the national draft and for this year you will have a max of 40 players so if you want you can keep your squad as it is. However to particpate in the rookie draft where leftover afl players will be you will need less than 40 pplayers to participate in this draft. This is the time where you drop players and every player you drop will be avilable for others to poach in the rookie draft.

So lets say i take my 5 picks in the national draft I have 40 players but i want to pick up Luke Parker in the rookie draft, I delist Kane Cornes and Pick up Parker. But PB my want Cornes so he takes him in the draft.


Now this part im still not sure and thats trading. You will be able to trade picksand im thinking of capping it at a max of 10 players leaving your club. I was originally thinking of having trade period the same as the real one but that may be too short and also it seems sensible to be able to trade after the natinoal draft and before the rookie draft.

So based on that there are 3 options with the last being the one im currenty going with.
1. Just one week in trade week (dont like this but is realisitic)
2. Can trade whenever you want in the offseason
3. Trading just before the national draft and a week after and than the rookie draft happens. Than a restricted trade period for 1 week DPP comes out.  So probably a limit of 4 players moved in the restricted.

With the last one you can fix up any DPP changes that cripple your team but the skill in trading will be in the unrestricted (or less restricted) trade period around the drafts.

With the trading in the draft trading round you will be able to trade 3 players for 1 if you want to but as soon as the rokoie draft occurs you must do 1 for 1 or 2 for 2 trades. This means if say I want lots of rookie draft picks i could trade 3 players and get 1 instead of delisting players.

Still working on it but this is the plan message back with things you like dont like. Or anyway way you would improve it. I will take it all into consideration.
Title: Re: Euro Drafting and Trading at the end of the year.
Post by: Justin Bieber on May 29, 2012, 03:30:25 PM
I recon trade whenver in the off-season.

But how many traded players can you have??
Title: Re: Euro Drafting and Trading at the end of the year.
Post by: Holz on May 29, 2012, 03:31:41 PM
Quote from: whatlez on May 29, 2012, 03:30:25 PM
I recon trade whenver in the off-season.

But how many traded players can you have??

The plan is a max of 10 players moving from your sqaud, like this year but with 10 instead of 6.
Title: Re: Euro Drafting and Trading at the end of the year.
Post by: elephants on May 29, 2012, 03:43:34 PM
I like it. Only got to the 5th line until my ADD kicked in but from what I can gather it looks good!

I assume the draft order be determined by the ladder?
Title: Re: Euro Drafting and Trading at the end of the year.
Post by: Holz on May 29, 2012, 03:45:16 PM
Quote from: elephants on May 29, 2012, 03:43:34 PM
I like it. Only got to the 5th line until my ADD kicked in but from what I can gather it looks good!

I assume the draft order be determined by the ladder?

yeah, and than finals performance for the top 8.

Made sure it was long as i wanted to try and cover as much as possible.
Title: Re: Euro Drafting and Trading at the end of the year.
Post by: elephants on May 29, 2012, 03:46:13 PM
Quote from: Holzman on May 29, 2012, 03:45:16 PM
Quote from: elephants on May 29, 2012, 03:43:34 PM
I like it. Only got to the 5th line until my ADD kicked in but from what I can gather it looks good!

I assume the draft order be determined by the ladder?

yeah, and than finals performance for the top 8.

Made sure it was long as i wanted to try and cover as much as possible.

Okay sweet!

*I don't have ADD.
Title: Re: Euro Drafting and Trading at the end of the year.
Post by: Ziplock on May 29, 2012, 03:46:32 PM
Quote from: whatlez on May 29, 2012, 03:30:25 PM
I recon trade whenver in the off-season.

But how many traded players can you have??
yeah, I agree with off season.
Title: Re: Euro Drafting and Trading at the end of the year.
Post by: Scrads on May 29, 2012, 03:47:49 PM
Looking like a very good plan so far Holz, nicely done. These are my questions at this stage:

1) Will both drafts have the same order ? Is the wooden spoon going to get effectively 2 #1 picks ?

2) will the rookie draft have a cap on how many non-rookie players we can take like last year ? That rule annoyed me to no end =P

3) are the rookie draft picks tradeable ?
Title: Re: Euro Drafting and Trading at the end of the year.
Post by: Holz on May 29, 2012, 03:48:18 PM
Quote from: elephants on May 29, 2012, 03:46:13 PM
Quote from: Holzman on May 29, 2012, 03:45:16 PM
Quote from: elephants on May 29, 2012, 03:43:34 PM
I like it. Only got to the 5th line until my ADD kicked in but from what I can gather it looks good!

I assume the draft order be determined by the ladder?

yeah, and than finals performance for the top 8.

Made sure it was long as i wanted to try and cover as much as possible.

Okay sweet!

*I don't have ADD.

watch out though the team with the best youth are looking like they will have pick 1 and 2 so we should be dominating in a few years. unless we are like melbourne and have all the youth and still suck.
Title: Re: Euro Drafting and Trading at the end of the year.
Post by: elephants on May 29, 2012, 03:49:36 PM
Quote from: Holzman on May 29, 2012, 03:48:18 PM
Quote from: elephants on May 29, 2012, 03:46:13 PM
Quote from: Holzman on May 29, 2012, 03:45:16 PM
Quote from: elephants on May 29, 2012, 03:43:34 PM
I like it. Only got to the 5th line until my ADD kicked in but from what I can gather it looks good!

I assume the draft order be determined by the ladder?

yeah, and than finals performance for the top 8.

Made sure it was long as i wanted to try and cover as much as possible.

Okay sweet!

*I don't have ADD.

watch out though the team with the best youth are looking like they will have pick 1 and 2 so we should be dominating in a few years. unless we are like melbourne and have all the youth and still suck.

True. I am kinda concerned about Zip. Has been smashed by injuries this year but has some awesome youth coming through and its likel some high picks to go with that...
Title: Re: Euro Drafting and Trading at the end of the year.
Post by: Holz on May 29, 2012, 03:51:13 PM
Quote from: Scrads on May 29, 2012, 03:47:49 PM
Looking like a very good plan so far Holz, nicely done. These are my questions at this stage:

1) Will both drafts have the same order ? Is the wooden spoon going to get effectively 2 #1 picks ?

2) will the rookie draft have a cap on how many non-rookie players we can take like last year ? That rule annoyed me to no end =P

3) are the rookie draft picks tradeable ?

thanks scrads knew i missed some things.

1. Yes the plan was the draft the same order so yes 2 number 1 picks. Not sure if this is overpowered but from what i have seen in a DT comp a number 1 pick isnt as powerful in a draft as in real life.  Because its harder to find a good DT player than a good player in my opinion.

2. No rookies cap you can go anyone you want

3. rookie drafted picks are tradeable so if you dont want any and you have a high pick you will be able to get rid of it.
Title: Re: Euro Drafting and Trading at the end of the year.
Post by: Holz on May 29, 2012, 03:52:09 PM
Quote from: elephants on May 29, 2012, 03:49:36 PM
Quote from: Holzman on May 29, 2012, 03:48:18 PM
Quote from: elephants on May 29, 2012, 03:46:13 PM
Quote from: Holzman on May 29, 2012, 03:45:16 PM
Quote from: elephants on May 29, 2012, 03:43:34 PM
I like it. Only got to the 5th line until my ADD kicked in but from what I can gather it looks good!

I assume the draft order be determined by the ladder?

yeah, and than finals performance for the top 8.

Made sure it was long as i wanted to try and cover as much as possible.

Okay sweet!

*I don't have ADD.

watch out though the team with the best youth are looking like they will have pick 1 and 2 so we should be dominating in a few years. unless we are like melbourne and have all the youth and still suck.

True. I am kinda concerned about Zip. Has been smashed by injuries this year but has some awesome youth coming through and its likel some high picks to go with that...

not scared about me? I have had Mummy, Lecras, Schnieder out for most of the season and Gubbs stuck in the mids. Not to forget i get the Jaeger Bomb next year!!!!!
Title: Re: Euro Drafting and Trading at the end of the year.
Post by: elephants on May 29, 2012, 03:53:30 PM
Quote from: Holzman on May 29, 2012, 03:52:09 PM
Quote from: elephants on May 29, 2012, 03:49:36 PM
Quote from: Holzman on May 29, 2012, 03:48:18 PM
Quote from: elephants on May 29, 2012, 03:46:13 PM
Quote from: Holzman on May 29, 2012, 03:45:16 PM
Quote from: elephants on May 29, 2012, 03:43:34 PM
I like it. Only got to the 5th line until my ADD kicked in but from what I can gather it looks good!

I assume the draft order be determined by the ladder?

yeah, and than finals performance for the top 8.

Made sure it was long as i wanted to try and cover as much as possible.

Okay sweet!

*I don't have ADD.

watch out though the team with the best youth are looking like they will have pick 1 and 2 so we should be dominating in a few years. unless we are like melbourne and have all the youth and still suck.

True. I am kinda concerned about Zip. Has been smashed by injuries this year but has some awesome youth coming through and its likel some high picks to go with that...

not scared about me? I have had Mummy, Lecras, Schnieder out for most of the season and Gubbs stuck in the mids. Not to forget i get the Jaeger Bomb next year!!!!!

Yeah, I guess you'll be kinda worrying.

With Jaeger Bomb coming in you won't need Priddis anymore will you...?
Title: Re: Euro Drafting and Trading at the end of the year.
Post by: Holz on May 29, 2012, 03:54:21 PM
Quote from: elephants on May 29, 2012, 03:53:30 PM
Quote from: Holzman on May 29, 2012, 03:52:09 PM
Quote from: elephants on May 29, 2012, 03:49:36 PM
Quote from: Holzman on May 29, 2012, 03:48:18 PM
Quote from: elephants on May 29, 2012, 03:46:13 PM
Quote from: Holzman on May 29, 2012, 03:45:16 PM
Quote from: elephants on May 29, 2012, 03:43:34 PM
I like it. Only got to the 5th line until my ADD kicked in but from what I can gather it looks good!

I assume the draft order be determined by the ladder?

yeah, and than finals performance for the top 8.

Made sure it was long as i wanted to try and cover as much as possible.

Okay sweet!

*I don't have ADD.

watch out though the team with the best youth are looking like they will have pick 1 and 2 so we should be dominating in a few years. unless we are like melbourne and have all the youth and still suck.

True. I am kinda concerned about Zip. Has been smashed by injuries this year but has some awesome youth coming through and its likel some high picks to go with that...

not scared about me? I have had Mummy, Lecras, Schnieder out for most of the season and Gubbs stuck in the mids. Not to forget i get the Jaeger Bomb next year!!!!!

Yeah, I guess you'll be kinda worrying.

With Jaeger Bomb coming in you won't need Priddis anymore will you...?

thats exactly why he is getting traded.
Title: Re: Euro Drafting and Trading at the end of the year.
Post by: elephants on May 29, 2012, 03:56:54 PM
Cool!

Where do we stand on tanking? Yay or Nay?

Not that we will... Just teams could if they wanted too and thus steal all the best picks in next year SUPER DRAFT...
Title: Re: Euro Drafting and Trading at the end of the year.
Post by: Scrads on May 29, 2012, 03:58:30 PM
Another question Holz, will the rookie draft picks automatically be our rookie list or can players from the rookie draft make up leftover spots on our senior list. Also, can we use our national draft picks on our rookie list or do they have to stay on the senior list.
Title: Re: Euro Drafting and Trading at the end of the year.
Post by: Ziplock on May 29, 2012, 03:59:20 PM
it's a possibility, but it'll be really obvious if teams tank, and surely a penalty would imposed...
Title: Re: Euro Drafting and Trading at the end of the year.
Post by: elephants on May 29, 2012, 03:59:42 PM
Quote from: Ziplock on May 29, 2012, 03:59:20 PM
it's a possibility, but it'll be really obvious if teams tank, and surely a penalty would imposed...

Yeah, I reckon there should be.
Title: Re: Euro Drafting and Trading at the end of the year.
Post by: Holz on May 29, 2012, 04:00:53 PM
Quote from: elephants on May 29, 2012, 03:56:54 PM
Cool!

Where do we stand on tanking? Yay or Nay?

Not that we will... Just teams could if they wanted too and thus steal all the best picks in next year SUPER DRAFT...

its hard to tank in DT but if it is detected the person will be moved to last on the draft.
Title: Re: Euro Drafting and Trading at the end of the year.
Post by: Justin Bieber on May 29, 2012, 04:03:21 PM
No one should be tanking Ele.

Only the Wolves just to make the rest of the comp close :P
Title: Re: Euro Drafting and Trading at the end of the year.
Post by: elephants on May 29, 2012, 04:04:26 PM
Quote from: Holzman on May 29, 2012, 04:00:53 PM
Quote from: elephants on May 29, 2012, 03:56:54 PM
Cool!

Where do we stand on tanking? Yay or Nay?

Not that we will... Just teams could if they wanted too and thus steal all the best picks in next year SUPER DRAFT...

its hard to tank in DT but if it is detected the person will be moved to last on the draft.

Yeah thats smart.

You could tank! I would just play Jetta over Robinson and make Rhyce Shaw captain. Then load up on players that aren't even playing like Darrou and Symes!
Title: Re: Euro Drafting and Trading at the end of the year.
Post by: BGK on May 29, 2012, 04:22:08 PM
Quote from: elephants on May 29, 2012, 04:04:26 PM
Quote from: Holzman on May 29, 2012, 04:00:53 PM
Quote from: elephants on May 29, 2012, 03:56:54 PM
Cool!

Where do we stand on tanking? Yay or Nay?

Not that we will... Just teams could if they wanted too and thus steal all the best picks in next year SUPER DRAFT...

its hard to tank in DT but if it is detected the person will be moved to last on the draft.

Yeah thats smart.

You could tank! I would just play Jetta over Robinson and make Rhyce Shaw captain. Then load up on players that aren't even playing like Darrou and Symes!

If this really is a super draft I think I'd rather have 2 middle picks than a number 1 and 28.
Title: Re: Euro Drafting and Trading at the end of the year.
Post by: Holz on May 29, 2012, 04:26:47 PM
Quote from: BGK on May 29, 2012, 04:22:08 PM
Quote from: elephants on May 29, 2012, 04:04:26 PM
Quote from: Holzman on May 29, 2012, 04:00:53 PM
Quote from: elephants on May 29, 2012, 03:56:54 PM
Cool!

Where do we stand on tanking? Yay or Nay?

Not that we will... Just teams could if they wanted too and thus steal all the best picks in next year SUPER DRAFT...

its hard to tank in DT but if it is detected the person will be moved to last on the draft.

Yeah thats smart.

You could tank! I would just play Jetta over Robinson and make Rhyce Shaw captain. Then load up on players that aren't even playing like Darrou and Symes!

If this really is a super draft I think I'd rather have 2 middle picks than a number 1 and 28.

I was having it like the normal draft so you get picks 1 and 15
Title: Re: Euro Drafting and Trading at the end of the year.
Post by: BGK on May 29, 2012, 04:32:45 PM
Quote from: Holzman on May 29, 2012, 04:26:47 PM
Quote from: BGK on May 29, 2012, 04:22:08 PM
Quote from: elephants on May 29, 2012, 04:04:26 PM
Quote from: Holzman on May 29, 2012, 04:00:53 PM
Quote from: elephants on May 29, 2012, 03:56:54 PM
Cool!

Where do we stand on tanking? Yay or Nay?

Not that we will... Just teams could if they wanted too and thus steal all the best picks in next year SUPER DRAFT...

its hard to tank in DT but if it is detected the person will be moved to last on the draft.

Yeah thats smart.

You could tank! I would just play Jetta over Robinson and make Rhyce Shaw captain. Then load up on players that aren't even playing like Darrou and Symes!

If this really is a super draft I think I'd rather have 2 middle picks than a number 1 and 28.

I was having it like the normal draft so you get picks 1 and 15

Hmmmmm. It is a massive hand out. With this and the rookie draft.
Title: Re: Euro Drafting and Trading at the end of the year.
Post by: elephants on May 29, 2012, 04:44:35 PM
Quote from: BGK on May 29, 2012, 04:32:45 PM
Quote from: Holzman on May 29, 2012, 04:26:47 PM
Quote from: BGK on May 29, 2012, 04:22:08 PM
Quote from: elephants on May 29, 2012, 04:04:26 PM
Quote from: Holzman on May 29, 2012, 04:00:53 PM
Quote from: elephants on May 29, 2012, 03:56:54 PM
Cool!

Where do we stand on tanking? Yay or Nay?

Not that we will... Just teams could if they wanted too and thus steal all the best picks in next year SUPER DRAFT...

its hard to tank in DT but if it is detected the person will be moved to last on the draft.

Yeah thats smart.

You could tank! I would just play Jetta over Robinson and make Rhyce Shaw captain. Then load up on players that aren't even playing like Darrou and Symes!

If this really is a super draft I think I'd rather have 2 middle picks than a number 1 and 28.

I was having it like the normal draft so you get picks 1 and 15

Hmmmmm. It is a massive hand out. With this and the rookie draft.

Yeah it is big stakes... Which is why coming last this year isn't all bad.
Title: Re: Euro Drafting and Trading at the end of the year.
Post by: Holz on May 29, 2012, 04:45:02 PM
Quote from: BGK on May 29, 2012, 04:32:45 PM
Quote from: Holzman on May 29, 2012, 04:26:47 PM
Quote from: BGK on May 29, 2012, 04:22:08 PM
Quote from: elephants on May 29, 2012, 04:04:26 PM
Quote from: Holzman on May 29, 2012, 04:00:53 PM
Quote from: elephants on May 29, 2012, 03:56:54 PM
Cool!

Where do we stand on tanking? Yay or Nay?

Not that we will... Just teams could if they wanted too and thus steal all the best picks in next year SUPER DRAFT...

its hard to tank in DT but if it is detected the person will be moved to last on the draft.

Yeah thats smart.

You could tank! I would just play Jetta over Robinson and make Rhyce Shaw captain. Then load up on players that aren't even playing like Darrou and Symes!

If this really is a super draft I think I'd rather have 2 middle picks than a number 1 and 28.

I was having it like the normal draft so you get picks 1 and 15

Hmmmmm. It is a massive hand out. With this and the rookie draft.

yes it does seem a little overpowered, im only thinking rookies dont start scoring well for a long time in DT. So looking at it this year.

1 Wingard:has been pretty bad this year nad will take a long time to payoff if he does.
2 Coniglio: has been ok but woouldnt make many squads this year, will have to wait 2-3 years for him to be a decent starter and will he be a big scoring player?
3. Patton: hasnt played and i dont think he will be a DT player anyway
4. Omera: Not playing
5. Dom Tyson: same as wingard
6. Tom Mitchell: hasnt played
7 Longer: hasnt played many
8. Butine: 1 game
9. Docherty:  no games

so you can see that a high draft pick adds very little to your team in the short run and its really hard to get a good pickup and infact some of the late picks have been really good pick ups.

14. Greene, 16 Ellis, 26 Smith


The national draft is definitely staying as it is, but im open to suggestions for the rookie draft.
Title: Re: Euro Drafting and Trading at the end of the year.
Post by: BGK on May 29, 2012, 04:47:53 PM
Quote from: Holzman on May 29, 2012, 04:45:02 PM
Quote from: BGK on May 29, 2012, 04:32:45 PM
Quote from: Holzman on May 29, 2012, 04:26:47 PM
Quote from: BGK on May 29, 2012, 04:22:08 PM
Quote from: elephants on May 29, 2012, 04:04:26 PM
Quote from: Holzman on May 29, 2012, 04:00:53 PM
Quote from: elephants on May 29, 2012, 03:56:54 PM
Cool!

Where do we stand on tanking? Yay or Nay?

Not that we will... Just teams could if they wanted too and thus steal all the best picks in next year SUPER DRAFT...

its hard to tank in DT but if it is detected the person will be moved to last on the draft.

Yeah thats smart.

You could tank! I would just play Jetta over Robinson and make Rhyce Shaw captain. Then load up on players that aren't even playing like Darrou and Symes!

If this really is a super draft I think I'd rather have 2 middle picks than a number 1 and 28.

I was having it like the normal draft so you get picks 1 and 15

Hmmmmm. It is a massive hand out. With this and the rookie draft.

yes it does seem a little overpowered, im only thinking rookies dont start scoring well for a long time in DT. So looking at it this year.

1 Wingard:has been pretty bad this year nad will take a long time to payoff if he does.
2 Coniglio: has been ok but woouldnt make many squads this year, will have to wait 2-3 years for him to be a decent starter and will he be a big scoring player?
3. Patton: hasnt played and i dont think he will be a DT player anyway
4. Omera: Not playing
5. Dom Tyson: same as wingard
6. Tom Mitchell: hasnt played
7 Longer: hasnt played many
8. Butine: 1 game
9. Docherty:  no games

so you can see that a high draft pick adds very little to your team in the short run and its really hard to get a good pickup and infact some of the late picks have been really good pick ups.

14. Greene, 16 Ellis, 26 Smith


The national draft is definitely staying as it is, but im open to suggestions for the rookie draft.

I agree that its not an advantage that the teams are going to get straight away but over a longer period it will certainly help.
Title: Re: Euro Drafting and Trading at the end of the year.
Post by: Justin Bieber on May 29, 2012, 04:49:21 PM
Ellis was not a good pick-up haah.
Title: Re: Euro Drafting and Trading at the end of the year.
Post by: elephants on May 29, 2012, 04:49:38 PM
Yeah like Coniglio, Tyson, Mitchell and Longer will be household names in 4-5 years... If you're getting 5 of the best of these each year it does outweight it a bit...
Title: Re: Euro Drafting and Trading at the end of the year.
Post by: Holz on May 29, 2012, 04:51:41 PM
Quote from: BGK on May 29, 2012, 04:47:53 PM
Quote from: Holzman on May 29, 2012, 04:45:02 PM
Quote from: BGK on May 29, 2012, 04:32:45 PM
Quote from: Holzman on May 29, 2012, 04:26:47 PM
Quote from: BGK on May 29, 2012, 04:22:08 PM
Quote from: elephants on May 29, 2012, 04:04:26 PM
Quote from: Holzman on May 29, 2012, 04:00:53 PM
Quote from: elephants on May 29, 2012, 03:56:54 PM
Cool!

Where do we stand on tanking? Yay or Nay?

Not that we will... Just teams could if they wanted too and thus steal all the best picks in next year SUPER DRAFT...

its hard to tank in DT but if it is detected the person will be moved to last on the draft.

Yeah thats smart.

You could tank! I would just play Jetta over Robinson and make Rhyce Shaw captain. Then load up on players that aren't even playing like Darrou and Symes!

If this really is a super draft I think I'd rather have 2 middle picks than a number 1 and 28.

I was having it like the normal draft so you get picks 1 and 15

Hmmmmm. It is a massive hand out. With this and the rookie draft.

yes it does seem a little overpowered, im only thinking rookies dont start scoring well for a long time in DT. So looking at it this year.

1 Wingard:has been pretty bad this year nad will take a long time to payoff if he does.
2 Coniglio: has been ok but woouldnt make many squads this year, will have to wait 2-3 years for him to be a decent starter and will he be a big scoring player?
3. Patton: hasnt played and i dont think he will be a DT player anyway
4. Omera: Not playing
5. Dom Tyson: same as wingard
6. Tom Mitchell: hasnt played
7 Longer: hasnt played many
8. Butine: 1 game
9. Docherty:  no games

so you can see that a high draft pick adds very little to your team in the short run and its really hard to get a good pickup and infact some of the late picks have been really good pick ups.

14. Greene, 16 Ellis, 26 Smith


The national draft is definitely staying as it is, but im open to suggestions for the rookie draft.

I agree that its not an advantage that the teams are going to get straight away but over a longer period it will certainly help.

Its a litttle overpowered this year with the superdraft and the rookie draft having some good players in it but i can see a few teams have alot of older players e.g. PB and at some stage alot of his players will retire and he will be down the bottom of the ladder (unless he trades) so these teams will need the picks to rebuild.
Title: Re: Euro Drafting and Trading at the end of the year.
Post by: elephants on May 29, 2012, 04:52:38 PM
Yeah, fair point.
Title: Re: Euro Drafting and Trading at the end of the year.
Post by: Holz on May 29, 2012, 05:11:56 PM
Quote from: elephants on May 29, 2012, 04:49:38 PM
Yeah like Coniglio, Tyson, Mitchell and Longer will be household names in 4-5 years... If you're getting 5 of the best of these each year it does outweight it a bit...

what do you mean getting 5 a year? your 1st and 2nd pick will be good but 3 4 5 are normally rubbish
Title: Re: Euro Drafting and Trading at the end of the year.
Post by: Holz on May 29, 2012, 05:12:55 PM
Quote from: whatlez on May 29, 2012, 04:49:21 PM
Ellis was not a good pick-up haah.

if you think that im happy to take him of your hands in the trade period.
Title: Re: Euro Drafting and Trading at the end of the year.
Post by: BGK on May 29, 2012, 05:17:26 PM
Quote from: Holzman on May 29, 2012, 05:12:55 PM
Quote from: whatlez on May 29, 2012, 04:49:21 PM
Ellis was not a good pick-up haah.

if you think that im happy to take him of your hands in the trade period.

Id be happy to take him too.

Quote from: Holzman on May 29, 2012, 05:11:56 PM
Quote from: elephants on May 29, 2012, 04:49:38 PM
Yeah like Coniglio, Tyson, Mitchell and Longer will be household names in 4-5 years... If you're getting 5 of the best of these each year it does outweight it a bit...

what do you mean getting 5 a year? your 1st and 2nd pick will be good but 3 4 5 are normally rubbish

Its going to be a little tough to swallow this year but it will even out over the course of a few years
Title: Re: Euro Drafting and Trading at the end of the year.
Post by: elephants on May 29, 2012, 05:17:39 PM
Quote from: Holzman on May 29, 2012, 05:12:55 PM
Quote from: whatlez on May 29, 2012, 04:49:21 PM
Ellis was not a good pick-up haah.

if you think that im happy to take him of your hands in the trade period.

Settle down tiger, get in line ;)

Quote from: Holzman on May 29, 2012, 05:11:56 PM
Quote from: elephants on May 29, 2012, 04:49:38 PM
Yeah like Coniglio, Tyson, Mitchell and Longer will be household names in 4-5 years... If you're getting 5 of the best of these each year it does outweight it a bit...

what do you mean getting 5 a year? your 1st and 2nd pick will be good but 3 4 5 are normally rubbish

Hird came from pick 73, Swan from the mid-40's and Ablett around there too. There are good players late in the draft ;)
What I mean though is that you'll get the best picks each round and thus 5 better players than everyone else if you pick right.
Title: Re: Euro Drafting and Trading at the end of the year.
Post by: MTTY on May 29, 2012, 05:18:10 PM
Seeing as its a superdraft it might not be a bad idea to have two expansion clubs?

Title: Re: Euro Drafting and Trading at the end of the year.
Post by: BGK on May 29, 2012, 05:19:02 PM
Quote from: elephants on May 29, 2012, 05:17:39 PM
Quote from: Holzman on May 29, 2012, 05:12:55 PM
Quote from: whatlez on May 29, 2012, 04:49:21 PM
Ellis was not a good pick-up haah.

if you think that im happy to take him of your hands in the trade period.

Settle down tiger, get in line ;)

Quote from: Holzman on May 29, 2012, 05:11:56 PM
Quote from: elephants on May 29, 2012, 04:49:38 PM
Yeah like Coniglio, Tyson, Mitchell and Longer will be household names in 4-5 years... If you're getting 5 of the best of these each year it does outweight it a bit...

what do you mean getting 5 a year? your 1st and 2nd pick will be good but 3 4 5 are normally rubbish

Hird came from pick 73, Swan from the mid-40's and Ablett around there too. There are good players late in the draft ;)
What I mean though is that you'll get the best picks each round and thus 5 better players than everyone else if you pick right.

Swan was actually 58
Title: Re: Euro Drafting and Trading at the end of the year.
Post by: BGK on May 29, 2012, 05:20:22 PM
Quote from: MTTY on May 29, 2012, 05:18:10 PM
Seeing as its a superdraft it might not be a bad idea to have two expansion clubs?

Yeah the new teams will be extremely light on for a few years. Do you think people will stay interested?
Title: Re: Euro Drafting and Trading at the end of the year.
Post by: elephants on May 29, 2012, 05:23:14 PM
Quote from: BGK on May 29, 2012, 05:19:02 PM
Quote from: elephants on May 29, 2012, 05:17:39 PM
Quote from: Holzman on May 29, 2012, 05:12:55 PM
Quote from: whatlez on May 29, 2012, 04:49:21 PM
Ellis was not a good pick-up haah.

if you think that im happy to take him of your hands in the trade period.

Settle down tiger, get in line ;)

Quote from: Holzman on May 29, 2012, 05:11:56 PM
Quote from: elephants on May 29, 2012, 04:49:38 PM
Yeah like Coniglio, Tyson, Mitchell and Longer will be household names in 4-5 years... If you're getting 5 of the best of these each year it does outweight it a bit...

what do you mean getting 5 a year? your 1st and 2nd pick will be good but 3 4 5 are normally rubbish

Hird came from pick 73, Swan from the mid-40's and Ablett around there too. There are good players late in the draft ;)
What I mean though is that you'll get the best picks each round and thus 5 better players than everyone else if you pick right.

Swan was actually 58

You get my point though, right?
Title: Re: Euro Drafting and Trading at the end of the year.
Post by: MTTY on May 29, 2012, 05:25:56 PM
Quote from: BGK on May 29, 2012, 05:20:22 PM
Quote from: MTTY on May 29, 2012, 05:18:10 PM
Seeing as its a superdraft it might not be a bad idea to have two expansion clubs?

Yeah the new teams will be extremely light on for a few years. Do you think people will stay interested?

I think they will.

With the two expansion teams we could have something like

Each team must choose 3 players to be restricted.

The new teams get to take any un-restricted player from another club (max of 1 player taken from each team by both expansion clubs together)

Also the expansion clubs are only allowed to pick up three players like this AND from those three they are allowed no more than one from each position.

After that we determine the draft orders whereby they should get a number of early picks.
Title: Re: Euro Drafting and Trading at the end of the year.
Post by: CrowsFan on May 29, 2012, 05:30:10 PM
Sounds interesting MT. If that was to happen I may be interested in stepping forward as a head coach. The Luxembourg Lemurs are looking for an EXV license ;)
Title: Re: Euro Drafting and Trading at the end of the year.
Post by: elephants on May 29, 2012, 05:39:45 PM
hahahaha thats a fantastic name CF!
Title: Re: Euro Drafting and Trading at the end of the year.
Post by: PowerBug on May 29, 2012, 05:43:33 PM
Only thing i recommend is that there is a timeslot for trading, so it doesn't go on forever like this one did. ::) Whether it's 1 week or 5 weeks i don't mind, but it needs a timeslot where nothing else happens during that time. :D

Other than that i'm happy with whatever is suggested.
Title: Re: Euro Drafting and Trading at the end of the year.
Post by: elephants on May 29, 2012, 05:45:20 PM
Quote from: PowerBug on May 29, 2012, 05:43:33 PM
Only thing i recommend is that there is a timeslot for trading, so it doesn't go on forever like this one did. ::) Whether it's 1 week or 5 weeks i don't mind, but it needs a timeslot where nothing else happens during that time. :D

Other than that i'm happy with whatever is suggested.

Whilst I'm more in favour of longer is better I tend to agree.

I propose a month... Thoughts?

Also we'd need to work out if it's WA TIME or EASTERN STATES TIME... Think there was some confusion last year.
Title: Re: Euro Drafting and Trading at the end of the year.
Post by: Scrads on May 29, 2012, 05:47:41 PM
Quote from: Scrads on May 29, 2012, 03:58:30 PM
Another question Holz, will the rookie draft picks automatically be our rookie list or can players from the rookie draft make up leftover spots on our senior list. Also, can we use our national draft picks on our rookie list or do they have to stay on the senior list.

Holz ?

Also whatlez, give Ellis a break he is doing okay for a 19 year old, he hasnt even missed a game yet, he will be hot property in years to come ;)
Title: Re: Euro Drafting and Trading at the end of the year.
Post by: Holz on May 29, 2012, 05:52:56 PM
Quote from: Scrads on May 29, 2012, 05:47:41 PM
Quote from: Scrads on May 29, 2012, 03:58:30 PM
Another question Holz, will the rookie draft picks automatically be our rookie list or can players from the rookie draft make up leftover spots on our senior list. Also, can we use our national draft picks on our rookie list or do they have to stay on the senior list.

Holz ?

Also whatlez, give Ellis a break he is doing okay for a 19 year old, he hasnt even missed a game yet, he will be hot property in years to come ;)

you pick your final team and therefore rookie list after the dpp changes so you cna put whoever you want on it.
Title: Re: Euro Drafting and Trading at the end of the year.
Post by: Holz on May 29, 2012, 05:53:58 PM
Quote from: elephants on May 29, 2012, 05:45:20 PM
Quote from: PowerBug on May 29, 2012, 05:43:33 PM
Only thing i recommend is that there is a timeslot for trading, so it doesn't go on forever like this one did. ::) Whether it's 1 week or 5 weeks i don't mind, but it needs a timeslot where nothing else happens during that time. :D

Other than that i'm happy with whatever is suggested.

Whilst I'm more in favour of longer is better I tend to agree.

I propose a month... Thoughts?

Also we'd need to work out if it's WA TIME or EASTERN STATES TIME... Think there was some confusion last year.

WA time, i was thinking around 3 weeks for the first trade period and than a week after DPP for the restricted one.
Title: Re: Euro Drafting and Trading at the end of the year.
Post by: Holz on May 29, 2012, 05:56:05 PM
Quote from: MTTY on May 29, 2012, 05:25:56 PM
Quote from: BGK on May 29, 2012, 05:20:22 PM
Quote from: MTTY on May 29, 2012, 05:18:10 PM
Seeing as its a superdraft it might not be a bad idea to have two expansion clubs?

Yeah the new teams will be extremely light on for a few years. Do you think people will stay interested?

I think they will.

With the two expansion teams we could have something like

Each team must choose 3 players to be restricted.

The new teams get to take any un-restricted player from another club (max of 1 player taken from each team by both expansion clubs together)

Also the expansion clubs are only allowed to pick up three players like this AND from those three they are allowed no more than one from each position.

After that we determine the draft orders whereby they should get a number of early picks.

there are already plans for this, i was thinking not next year but the year after introduce one team. The reason for this was becasue we still dont have our full squads yet. What are your opinions in this I would enter 1 team in one year and another the next.

Also if a person does want to pull out there team can be taken over and the incoming coach will be able to change the name if they want
Title: Re: Euro Drafting and Trading at the end of the year.
Post by: Torpedo10 on May 29, 2012, 05:57:45 PM
Quote from: elephants on May 29, 2012, 05:45:20 PM
Quote from: PowerBug on May 29, 2012, 05:43:33 PM
Only thing i recommend is that there is a timeslot for trading, so it doesn't go on forever like this one did. ::) Whether it's 1 week or 5 weeks i don't mind, but it needs a timeslot where nothing else happens during that time. :D

Other than that i'm happy with whatever is suggested.

Whilst I'm more in favour of longer is better I tend to agree.

I propose a month... Thoughts?

Also we'd need to work out if it's WA TIME or EASTERN STATES TIME... Think there was some confusion last year.
Yep.  :P
Title: Re: Euro Drafting and Trading at the end of the year.
Post by: MTTY on May 29, 2012, 05:58:32 PM
Quote from: Holzman on May 29, 2012, 05:56:05 PM
Quote from: MTTY on May 29, 2012, 05:25:56 PM
Quote from: BGK on May 29, 2012, 05:20:22 PM
Quote from: MTTY on May 29, 2012, 05:18:10 PM
Seeing as its a superdraft it might not be a bad idea to have two expansion clubs?

Yeah the new teams will be extremely light on for a few years. Do you think people will stay interested?

I think they will.

With the two expansion teams we could have something like

Each team must choose 3 players to be restricted.

The new teams get to take any un-restricted player from another club (max of 1 player taken from each team by both expansion clubs together)

Also the expansion clubs are only allowed to pick up three players like this AND from those three they are allowed no more than one from each position.

After that we determine the draft orders whereby they should get a number of early picks.

there are already plans for this, i was thinking not next year but the year after introduce one team. The reason for this was becasue we still dont have our full squads yet. What are your opinions in this I would enter 1 team in one year and another the next.

Also if a person does want to pull out there team can be taken over and the incoming coach will be able to change the name if they want

I like your idea Holz, just wanted to bring some sort of expansion idea to you incase you didn't already have one.  :)
Title: Re: Euro Drafting and Trading at the end of the year.
Post by: PowerBug on May 29, 2012, 05:59:55 PM
Wait, Holz, ummm, ok, i'm confused, did you.. hold on, did he just...

PM me Holz.
Title: Re: Euro Drafting and Trading at the end of the year.
Post by: Justin Bieber on May 29, 2012, 06:04:25 PM
Quote from: Scrads on May 29, 2012, 05:47:41 PM
Quote from: Scrads on May 29, 2012, 03:58:30 PM
Another question Holz, will the rookie draft picks automatically be our rookie list or can players from the rookie draft make up leftover spots on our senior list. Also, can we use our national draft picks on our rookie list or do they have to stay on the senior list.

Holz ?

Also whatlez, give Ellis a break he is doing okay for a 19 year old, he hasnt even missed a game yet, he will be hot property in years to come ;)

Yeah he's fine.


Also I was wondering if I could make my own team and take all the draft picks? Then sneakily trade them to the Wolves haha. But seriously I would really want my own team  :-X
Title: Re: Euro Drafting and Trading at the end of the year.
Post by: CrowsFan on May 29, 2012, 06:12:16 PM
Quote from: elephants on May 29, 2012, 05:39:45 PM
hahahaha thats a fantastic name CF!
Haha thanks. Another option is the Swiss Army Knives :P
Title: Re: Euro Drafting and Trading at the end of the year.
Post by: elephants on May 29, 2012, 06:19:36 PM
Quote from: CrowsFan on May 29, 2012, 06:12:16 PM
Quote from: elephants on May 29, 2012, 05:39:45 PM
hahahaha thats a fantastic name CF!
Haha thanks. Another option is the Swiss Army Knives :P
Hahah there actually are so many ridiculously good names you could make... Forces you to wonder how we have names like 'Suns' when there are option like Lemurs, Rocket and Gorrilas available.

How much more imposing does Gold Coast Gorillas sound than Gold Coast Suns??
Title: Re: Euro Drafting and Trading at the end of the year.
Post by: CrowsFan on May 29, 2012, 06:24:03 PM
Or Gold Coast Guerrillas :D
Title: Re: Euro Drafting and Trading at the end of the year.
Post by: BGK on May 29, 2012, 06:25:26 PM
I still think Hawka should've gone with the Dutch Ovens.
Title: Re: Euro Drafting and Trading at the end of the year.
Post by: elephants on May 29, 2012, 06:36:45 PM
Quote from: BGK on May 29, 2012, 06:25:26 PM
I still think Hawka should've gone with the Dutch Ovens.

YES!!
Title: Re: Euro Drafting and Trading at the end of the year.
Post by: Torpedo10 on May 29, 2012, 07:12:03 PM
Quote from: CrowsFan on May 29, 2012, 06:24:03 PM
Or Gold Coast Guerrillas :D
Have to be Euro CF.  :P
Title: Re: Euro Drafting and Trading at the end of the year.
Post by: CrowsFan on May 29, 2012, 07:12:59 PM
Quote from: Torpedo10 on May 29, 2012, 07:12:03 PM
Quote from: CrowsFan on May 29, 2012, 06:24:03 PM
Or Gold Coast Guerrillas :D
Have to be Euro CF.  :P
We were talking about the actual Gold Coast Suns and how they would be better with different name ::)
Title: Re: Euro Drafting and Trading at the end of the year.
Post by: Torpedo10 on May 29, 2012, 07:14:15 PM
Quote from: CrowsFan on May 29, 2012, 07:12:59 PM
Quote from: Torpedo10 on May 29, 2012, 07:12:03 PM
Quote from: CrowsFan on May 29, 2012, 06:24:03 PM
Or Gold Coast Guerrillas :D
Have to be Euro CF.  :P
We were talking about the actual Gold Coast Suns and how they would be better with different name ::)
Ah, well I agree with you on that.  :D
Title: Re: Euro Drafting and Trading at the end of the year.
Post by: elephants on May 29, 2012, 07:16:49 PM
Hahahahahah I like this thread.