I reckon I'll make this megathread for everything Richmond related this off-season.
We already know the delistings.
All discussion can be kept in here.
Mega thread ;D I like it!
Lots of list spaces free, will be interesting to see how we fill them
6 senior list, 3 rookie list
Quote from: Toga on September 09, 2014, 09:39:33 PM
Lots of list spaces free, will be interesting to see how we fill them
6 senior list, 3 rookie list
We'll take Shiel, WHE and maybe Danger.
Nah but seriously, need to bring in some kids.
Looking at the delistings, I think two things are somewhat certain.
We'll be getting a back up ruck, even if they're rookie listed.
A forwards of sorts will come in, not sure what type though.
Does Ivan Soldo take up a rookie spot as a Cat B rookie?
Yeah, can see us going after some more class in the middle, and probably a small/medium forward. Our talls are reasonably well stocked with Riewoldt, Griffiths, Vickery, McBean and Elton all staying on the list for the moment
Quote from: Toga on September 09, 2014, 10:01:07 PM
Does Ivan Soldo take up a rookie spot as a Cat B rookie?
Yeah, can see us going after some more class in the middle, and probably a small/medium forward. Our talls are reasonably well stocked with Riewoldt, Griffiths, Vickery, McBean and Elton all staying on the list for the moment
Surprised Elton survived.
Oh yeah, forgot about Soldo.
I heard that Richmond are pretty keen on Alex Woodward.
Quote from: Mr.Craig on September 09, 2014, 10:27:24 PM
I heard that Richmond are pretty keen on Alex Woodward.
YES PLS :o
is Ivan Soldo Maric's cousin??
Quote from: quinny88 on September 09, 2014, 11:49:24 PM
Quote from: NigeyS on September 09, 2014, 10:53:33 PM
Quote from: Mr.Craig on September 09, 2014, 10:27:24 PM
I heard that Richmond are pretty keen on Alex Woodward.
YES PLS :o
Who? ???
Young Hawk. Won the JJ Liston, aka the Brownlow equivalent in the VFL. ;)
He'd be a perfect fit with the current group.
I probably like him a bit more than most because we went to the same school (was the year above me). :P
We have kept the core of the team even with the cull which is good so hit the draft but any good young players at other teams like Woodward should be looked at Shiel or Mitchell would be sensational but doubt we have enough to offer in draft picks so would have cough up a pretty good player to have any chance with them if they are going to move on .
You boys have signed Ben Rutten as an assistant coach
Quote from: Ricochet on September 10, 2014, 05:05:17 PM
You boys have signed Ben Rutten as an assistant coach
Can't complain about that. 8)
http://www.richmondfc.com.au/news/2014-09-10/rutten-to-richmond
That's the article for those that wanna read it.
Good stuff. Are we still trying to get Lenny?
:o the Truck, taught by non other that Carey you know
What kind of player is Woodward? I know he's a midfielder, but does he play more on the outside or what?
Quote from: Toga on September 10, 2014, 07:16:02 PM
What kind of player is Woodward? I know he's a midfielder, but does he play more on the outside or what?
Hopefully! We need some quick outside players
Quote from: Toga on September 10, 2014, 07:16:02 PM
What kind of player is Woodward? I know he's a midfielder, but does he play more on the outside or what?
He's a tough, inside mid.
Kinda similar to Arnot.
Ah, ok. Think our main need at the moment is some more class and pace on the outside as Miles has improved our inside work a lot since he came in.
Yep we need a couple speedy wingers , funny we had a speedy player but he is at Port now anyone else find that a bit strange ?
Quote from: shaker on September 11, 2014, 09:26:13 AM
Yep we need a couple speedy wingers , funny we had a speedy player but he is at Port now anyone else find that a bit strange ?
We kept giving him the green vest which was stupid although his speed was handy for that role. I'm still kinda sad he left.
Quote from: NigeyS on September 11, 2014, 09:30:26 AM
Quote from: shaker on September 11, 2014, 09:26:13 AM
Yep we need a couple speedy wingers , funny we had a speedy player but he is at Port now anyone else find that a bit strange ?
We kept giving him the green vest which was stupid although his speed was handy for that role. I'm still kinda sad he left.
Kind of thinking we didn't use him very well when he did play full games but sadly he is the speedy player we need now he has certainly been setting it on fire over there
Yeah we definitely need someone with speed, to replace White.
TBH, White hasn't really improved at Port, pretty much doing the same he was doing at Richmond last year (unsubbed), it's just he looks better in a better team.
I hope we look at Weller or Laverde in the draft, they look like the kind of classy wingers we could really use.
Really hoping the Shiel/WHE rumours have some substance as well ;)
Yeah, I'm really keen on one of Weller, Ahern or Laverde.
Really want Shiel too.
Is Shiel really looking like leaving if so what would we be willing to put up to get him , can't remember but he was a very high draft pick ? our first pick won't do it are we willing to put up a good player maybe to another team to get another good pick for example Conca back west or give up our first pick plus a player to GWS , it would have to be a decent player to get it done ?
Quote from: shaker on September 11, 2014, 12:07:04 PM
Is Shiel really looking like leaving if so what would supporters be willing to put up to get him , can't remember but he was a very high draft pick ? our first pick won't do it are we willing to put up a good player maybe to another team to get another good pick for example Conca back west or give up our first pick plus a player to GWS , it would have to be a decent player to get it done ?
Just a rumour, so you'd think it's unlikely that he will move.
Wasn't drafted, he was pre-listed as a 17 year old.
I rate him as their best youngster, I'd give up our first rounder + someone like Conca in a heartbeat, even though I rate Recce too.
Tbh, I don't think we'll get him unless he walks out and since he's contracted beyond this year it's going to be very difficult.
Quote from: JROO8 on September 11, 2014, 12:11:05 PM
Quote from: shaker on September 11, 2014, 12:07:04 PM
Is Shiel really looking like leaving if so what would supporters be willing to put up to get him , can't remember but he was a very high draft pick ? our first pick won't do it are we willing to put up a good player maybe to another team to get another good pick for example Conca back west or give up our first pick plus a player to GWS , it would have to be a decent player to get it done ?
Just a rumour, so you'd think it's unlikely that he will move.
Wasn't drafted, he was pre-listed as a 17 year old.
I rate him as their best youngster, I'd give up our first rounder + someone like Conca in a heartbeat, even though I rate Recce too.
Tbh, I don't think we'll get him unless he walks out and since he's contracted beyond this year it's going to be very difficult.
Does not sound like it is going to happen but if it did would like to see us have a crack at him maybe we should look to draft for the best young speedsters available with what picks we have
So in Paige's latest phantom draft, she reckons the Suns love Laverde and will snap him up and reckons that Ahern may be our boy. I like Paul Ahern heaps, he's what we need (player comparison being Daisy) and I feel the same way about him as I did Beatle (Lennon) this time last year.
So Ill contact Sando and work out the details but
Jarred Lyons for Ty Vickery ok with your mob? Ok cool!
Quote from: tbagrocks on September 13, 2014, 04:03:23 PM
So Ill contact Sando and work out the details but
Jarred Lyons for Ty Vickery ok with your mob? Ok cool!
You don't want that hack
Quote from: elephants on September 13, 2014, 06:53:37 PM
Quote from: tbagrocks on September 13, 2014, 04:03:23 PM
So Ill contact Sando and work out the details but
Jarred Lyons for Ty Vickery ok with your mob? Ok cool!
You don't want that hack
are you serious sparkles? I dont know whether to report that response as spam or not?
Nothing to bloody talk about :-[
Name your best and worst moments of 2014!
Best: beating Sydney in round 23 to cap off the best ever comeback to the finals.
Worst: losing to Melbourne in Hafeys tribute game after his passing.
Quote from: quinny88 on September 15, 2014, 04:02:59 AM
Nothing to bloody talk about :-[
Name your best and worst moments of 2014!
Best: beating Sydney in round 23 to cap off the best ever comeback to the finals.
Worst: losing to Melbourne in Hafeys tribute game after his passing.
Nailed it. ;D :(
Well done to Rance on his AA selection. Absolute gun defender.
I remember a few years ago having to hold my breathe and cringe any time he had the ball but now he has become such a good attacking defender while still being arguably the best shut down defender in the game
flower Selwood looks good in a Tiges jumper.
(http://i.imgur.com/uWtHck9.jpg)
Haha doesn't he Jroo. He can keep it on :P
I don't mind it. We'd be the No.1 team for frees for is he came to us. Him and Miles rack them up like there's no tomorrow. :P
But yeah, Blease has left the Dees. I reckon we'll look at him.
Wouldn't be all that thrilled if we picked him up :-X
Quote from: Toga on September 17, 2014, 05:24:21 PM
Wouldn't be all that thrilled if we picked him up :-X
For a second I thought you were talking about Selwood :o
If we get him for free, I wouldn't be too concerned. He can run and that's what we need.
But he isn't a great footballer.
Quote from: Toga on September 17, 2014, 05:24:21 PM
Wouldn't be all that thrilled if we picked him up :-X
Yeah, neither. Given his history, too much risk for the possible but unlikely reward.
Depends whose spot he is taking on the list but would prefer to take a punt on some more younger blokes with some more upside.
(shaker will love me for saying this :P)
Quote from: Toga on September 17, 2014, 05:27:50 PM
Depends whose spot he is taking on the list but would prefer to take a punt on some more younger blokes with some more upside.
(shaker will love me for saying this :P)
Yeah, somebody like a Laverde or Ahern is perfect for this. They can run and are decent footballers. :P
Weller! O0
Quote from: Toga on September 17, 2014, 05:37:53 PM
Weller! O0
Would prefer Laverde or Ahern over Weller tbh. ;)
The stars have aligned..
We apparently have a mountain of cash.
Dangerfield has been rumoured to want to come to Victoria.
His coach/good friend Sando has been sacked.
Get it done Richmond!
Sando and Danger to the Tiges pls.
Quote from: Nige on September 17, 2014, 07:14:27 PM
Sando and Danger to the Tiges pls.
Package deal.. I like it
Quote from: Nige on September 17, 2014, 07:14:27 PM
Sando and Danger to the Tiges pls.
We'll give them Grigg, Hampson and Thomas.
The Crows love our spuds :P
Quote from: JROO8 on September 17, 2014, 07:17:06 PM
Quote from: Nige on September 17, 2014, 07:14:27 PM
Sando and Danger to the Tiges pls.
We'll give them Grigg, Hampson and Thomas.
The Crows love our spuds :P
Tank could win the Magarey medal again. :o
Thomas is alright!
It's funny I was just trying to think of another spud on our list that I can't stand but it's actually hard to think of them now :o
A few years ago I could have reeled off 10 spuds without blinking
Todd Elton was Pick 26 in his draft and is currently the biggest potato on our list. Crows need to replace Tex when he's poached by the Swans next year. :P
Quote from: Nige on September 17, 2014, 08:01:38 PM
Todd Elton was Pick 26 in his draft and is currently the biggest potato on our list. Crows need to replace Tex when he's poached by the Swans next year. :P
I actually liked the look of Elton in the 1 and only game he played.
The CHF position is still up for grabs IMO. Griffiths and Vickery are ahead but if McBean or Elton can have a huge pre season and go to the next level then theres a position there for them
Still think we could run with three talls as well if two of them really show they are worth spots next two Jack. None of them are that traditional third tall size though which makes it tough
For me (not including Jack)
Griffiths > McBean > Vickery > Elton
Big call to place the kid who hasn't played a game yet ahead of Vickery but I'm really excited about him as a prospect.
Another phantom draft with Paul Ahern going to us.
Here's what Jourdan Canil had to say.
Quote11. Richmond - Paul Ahern
Calder Cannons
Height: 181 cm
Weight: 77 kg
Position: Forward/midfielder
Player comparison: Travis Colyer (better kick)
Strengths: Pace, skilful, game winner
Areas needing improvement: Contested ball winning, two way running
Ahern is a fast half forward who has gradually worked into the midfield. He's an excellent kick on the run and could become a very damaging player if he can get it all together. He's a strong mark for a small forward. He can kick a small bag when needed, but he can also be wasteful in front of goal. He kicked 1.5 against Eastern and 0.3 against the Rebels this year. He's starting to find more of the footy but it's basically all outside ball. He doesn't tackle enough in the forward half, averaging just over one per game this year. He's a strong size and great over head. He is really starting to hit his straps, kicking three goals and being one of if not the best on ground against Western Australia.
Does anyone reckon Grigg could have a future as a tagger? since Jacko's gone his spot leaves a void.
Quote from: Kellogscrunchynut on September 19, 2014, 05:23:24 PM
Does anyone reckon Grigg could have a future as a tagger? since Jacko's gone his spot leaves a void.
It's possible. He didn't too badly as a tagger in games he did play that role this year.
I feel like his (Jacko's) place in the side should be filled by either a new recruit (Shiel?) or a young guy already on the list (Arnot etc).
Cotch now the father of a baby girl. Congrats to him and Brooke. 8)
Quote from: Nige on September 24, 2014, 08:03:14 PM
Cotch now the father of a baby girl. Congrats to him and Brooke. 8)
Poor Tiger fans :P
Quote from: elephants on September 24, 2014, 08:09:23 PM
Quote from: Nige on September 24, 2014, 08:03:14 PM
Cotch now the father of a baby girl. Congrats to him and Brooke. 8)
Poor Tiger fans :P
Cotch Jr will come soon enough.
Congrats to Cotchy and Brooke! But now you have to get busy again, we need a son! ;)
Start a bit of discussion... Who would you boys like to see in the Yellow & Black next season? ;)
Quote from: Toga on September 26, 2014, 10:33:20 AM
Start a bit of discussion... Who would you boys like to see in the Yellow & Black next season? ;)
Lots of youth from the draft especially a couple speedy wingers just no more mid age rejects from other clubs
Quote from: Toga on September 26, 2014, 10:33:20 AM
Start a bit of discussion... Who would you boys like to see in the Yellow & Black next season? ;)
P.Dangerfield. ;)
But yeah, hopefully we get one of the GWS boys - Shiel?
Oh, and as I have been saying for a while now... one of Laverde, Ahern or Weller. 8)
Dylan Shiel.
Seems to be a bit of love for Jordan De Goey in BigFooty Richmond board, definitely wouldn't mind him either.
I think we will end up with one of Laverde, Ahern, De Goey and Weller. Personally, I'd want them in that order.
My hopes are for Shiel and Weller :)
My only thing about Weller which is really minor is that I haven't seen as much of him as the others since he's from QLD and even though he's been killing it up there I guess it just leaves me wondering how he'd have fared up against the likes of De Goey, Ahern and Laverde for example in the TAC Cup.
Would've played against them at the U18 carnival no?
Quote from: Toga on September 26, 2014, 01:25:29 PM
Would've played against them at the U18 carnival no?
Yeah, but that wasn't much though.
Yeah I suppose. I think because he hasn't had as much exposure as the other blokes you're mentioning he could end up a steal, being underrated outside of Qld.
Quote from: Toga on September 26, 2014, 01:41:05 PM
Yeah I suppose. I think because he hasn't had as much exposure as the other blokes you're mentioning he could end up a steal, being underrated outside of Qld.
He'll still be a first rounder, that's for sure.
Quote from: Nige on September 26, 2014, 12:37:56 PM
Seems to be a bit of love for Jordan De Goey in BigFooty Richmond board, definitely wouldn't mind him either.
I think we will end up with one of Laverde, Ahern, De Goey and Weller. Personally, I'd want them in that order.
De Goey lacks pace, he's a good all rounder but not what we require at the moment, particularly after using first rounders on Conca, Vlas & Ellis. For mine he goes late first round early second.
I have Laverde, Ahern, Pickett & Weller in the same category, would be stoked with any. If Pickett goes to WC as expected and we are left with Weller, I'd pull out all the stops and get Garlett with our second pick. Not that Weller is slow (which he is not) but Garlett looks like he'd run a 20 metre sprint in 2.9 sec or less. We'd get a smooth mover in the Aish mould & a road runner, both would compliment our squad beautifully.
Quote from: Bully on September 26, 2014, 05:56:13 PM
Quote from: Nige on September 26, 2014, 12:37:56 PM
Seems to be a bit of love for Jordan De Goey in BigFooty Richmond board, definitely wouldn't mind him either.
I think we will end up with one of Laverde, Ahern, De Goey and Weller. Personally, I'd want them in that order.
De Goey lacks pace, he's a good all rounder but not what we require at the moment, particularly after using first rounders on Conca, Vlas & Ellis. For mine he goes late first round early second.
I have Laverde, Ahern, Pickett & Weller in the same category, would be stoked with any. If Pickett goes to WC as expected and we are left with Weller, I'd pull out all the stops and get Garlett with our second pick. Not that Weller is slow (which he is not) but Garlett looks like he'd run a 20 metre sprint in 2.9 sec or less. We'd get a smooth mover in the Aish mould & a road runner, both would compliment our squad beautifully.
The word is that the Suns like Laverde and Eagles should grab Pickett.
Honestly think we'll end up with Ahern (that's not just because I want him :P), he's pretty much what we need.
Would not mind the Tiges chasing a young athletic ruckman with one of the later picks bit like Blicavs , Hampson was really a waste of a pick last year they just should have used Stephenson
Quote from: shaker on September 27, 2014, 01:09:58 PM
Would not mind the Tiges chasing a young athletic ruckman with one of the later picks bit like Blicavs , Hampson was really a waste of a pick last year they just should have used Stephenson
There really isn't any standout or even decent ones, if we do grab one, it could be a while before we see them. I think the club might just invest heavily in Ivan Soldo who won't get a game for a few years anyway. If we get a ruckman, it's likely to be somebody from the VFL or another state league.
Quote from: Nige on September 27, 2014, 01:35:38 PM
Quote from: shaker on September 27, 2014, 01:09:58 PM
Would not mind the Tiges chasing a young athletic ruckman with one of the later picks bit like Blicavs , Hampson was really a waste of a pick last year they just should have used Stephenson
There really isn't any standout or even decent ones, if we do grab one, it could be a while before we see them. I think the club might just invest heavily in Ivan Soldo who won't get a game for a few years anyway. If we get a ruckman, it's likely to be somebody from the VFL or another state league.
Don't know if we really need another mature or experienced ruck it's just that Hampson is so one dimensional and if Maric goes down he is there I suppose , is he in his last year contract wise ?
Quote from: Nige on September 26, 2014, 09:14:26 PM
Quote from: Bully on September 26, 2014, 05:56:13 PM
Quote from: Nige on September 26, 2014, 12:37:56 PM
Seems to be a bit of love for Jordan De Goey in BigFooty Richmond board, definitely wouldn't mind him either.
I think we will end up with one of Laverde, Ahern, De Goey and Weller. Personally, I'd want them in that order.
De Goey lacks pace, he's a good all rounder but not what we require at the moment, particularly after using first rounders on Conca, Vlas & Ellis. For mine he goes late first round early second.
I have Laverde, Ahern, Pickett & Weller in the same category, would be stoked with any. If Pickett goes to WC as expected and we are left with Weller, I'd pull out all the stops and get Garlett with our second pick. Not that Weller is slow (which he is not) but Garlett looks like he'd run a 20 metre sprint in 2.9 sec or less. We'd get a smooth mover in the Aish mould & a road runner, both would compliment our squad beautifully.
The word is that the Suns like Laverde and Eagles should grab Pickett.
Honestly think we'll end up with Ahern (that's not just because I want him :P), he's pretty much what we need.
Weller starred today, probably enough to move into top 10 calculations. Reckon it will be Ahern or Laverde with our pick.
Quote from: shaker on September 27, 2014, 01:54:48 PM
Quote from: Nige on September 27, 2014, 01:35:38 PM
Quote from: shaker on September 27, 2014, 01:09:58 PM
Would not mind the Tiges chasing a young athletic ruckman with one of the later picks bit like Blicavs , Hampson was really a waste of a pick last year they just should have used Stephenson
There really isn't any standout or even decent ones, if we do grab one, it could be a while before we see them. I think the club might just invest heavily in Ivan Soldo who won't get a game for a few years anyway. If we get a ruckman, it's likely to be somebody from the VFL or another state league.
Don't know if we really need another mature or experienced ruck it's just that Hampson is so one dimensional and if Maric goes down he is there I suppose , is he in his last year contract wise ?
Marc Pittonet is one who I'm interested in, think he's in the 4th round to rookie territory. Will wait on his draft camp times before making a final call. He's a basketball convert too, these types generally do well.
Still keeping my fingers crossed for Weller ;) But wouldn't say no to Laverde either by the looks of him
Just saw this on Facebook.
Our top 5 scorers in 2014. Goals, behinds, games played in brackets.
Jack Riewoldt - 61.38 (23)
Dustin Martin - 27.15 (22)
Ty Vickery - 23.10 (12)
Shane Edwards - 22.16 (23)
Brett Deledio - 20.16 (19)
Boys, how do we feel about the club barely being mentioned in these trade rumours and even none of our players? Could that be a sign we're heading to the draft and recruiting some young fellas rather than bringing in guys like we did Hampson last year? Let's get some discussion going in the lead up to trade week.
Apparently Levi Greenwood is out of contract and we've shown interest in him but the Roos are likely to re-sign him given the season he'd had. That and he wants to stay. :P
Quote from: Nige on September 29, 2014, 09:38:59 AM
Boys, how do we feel about the club barely being mentioned in these trade rumours and even none of our players? Could that be a sign we're heading to the draft and recruiting some young fellas rather than bringing in guys like we did Hampson last year? Let's get some discussion going in the lead up to trade week.
You know how I feel about that Nige :) youth all the way this year that will freshen up our list and keep our squad intact but am not against them having a crack at any good young guys at other clubs
Quote from: shaker on September 29, 2014, 10:15:58 AM
Quote from: Nige on September 29, 2014, 09:38:59 AM
Boys, how do we feel about the club barely being mentioned in these trade rumours and even none of our players? Could that be a sign we're heading to the draft and recruiting some young fellas rather than bringing in guys like we did Hampson last year? Let's get some discussion going in the lead up to trade week.
You know how I feel about that Nige :) youth all the way this year that will freshen up our list and keep our squad intact but am not against them having a crack at any good young guys at other clubs
Agree, would rather stockpile picks and perhaps grab another in the top 30. We need more inside mids, there's a number on offer who could create some serious depth with our midfield stocks. A dream draft for me would go something along the lines of -
Weller/Pickett/Laverde/Ahern
Garlett/Menadue
Miller/Bampton/Blakely
To do this I think we need another pick in the 20's, maybe McDonough goes to Port/Adelaide and we trade up pick 48.
Quote from: Nige on September 29, 2014, 09:50:41 AM
Apparently Levi Greenwood is out of contract and we've shown interest in him but the Roos are likely to re-sign him given the season he'd had. That and he wants to stay. :P
Dusty is keen to get him over
(http://cdndata.bigfooty.com/2014/09/82712_cf0b1cdca9a31a0d7a4e13ab60caf86d.jpg)
But yeah, no chance he'll leave the Roos IMO.
Didn't watch many Roos games this year, is Levi a good outside runner?
Really hope we go with Weller in the draft (although I would be happy with Laverde/Ahern as well), but we really need some classy, pacey outside players if we are to be able to compete with the top teams. Port has a few of these types and it just showed how important this kind of player is becoming in the elimination final when the Tiges just got cut up on the outside.
Quote from: Toga on September 29, 2014, 03:06:35 PM
Didn't watch many Roos games this year, is Levi a good outside runner?
Really hope we go with Weller in the draft (although I would be happy with Laverde/Ahern as well), but we really need some classy, pacey outside players if we are to be able to compete with the top teams. Port has a few of these types and it just showed how important this kind of player is becoming in the elimination final when the Tiges just got cut up on the outside.
Levi's pretty good all over the ground, plus he can tag/run with and still accumulate heaps. Would be an improvement on Grigg imo.
Quote from: Nige on September 29, 2014, 03:11:52 PM
Quote from: Toga on September 29, 2014, 03:06:35 PM
Didn't watch many Roos games this year, is Levi a good outside runner?
Really hope we go with Weller in the draft (although I would be happy with Laverde/Ahern as well), but we really need some classy, pacey outside players if we are to be able to compete with the top teams. Port has a few of these types and it just showed how important this kind of player is becoming in the elimination final when the Tiges just got cut up on the outside.
Levi's pretty good all over the ground, plus he can tag/run with and still accumulate heaps. Would be an improvement on Grigg imo.
We need to replace Grigg with a Hill type, pace is what we are lacking on the wings.
Yeah, my main preference for the off-season is a pacey winger with good footskills - someone a bit like Lids even!
I think Weller is my favourite player in this mould from what I have seen so far, although Laverde and Ahern also look decent. But if we could attract someone Dylan Shiel using that pick then I would hope the club would do that in a heartbeat ;)
Is Jon O'Rourke someone the club should be looking at? Don't know a whole lot about him.
Quote from: Toga on September 29, 2014, 08:34:10 PM
Yeah, my main preference for the off-season is a pacey winger with good footskills - someone a bit like Lids even!
I think Weller is my favourite player in this mould from what I have seen so far, although Laverde and Ahern also look decent. But if we could attract someone Dylan Shiel using that pick then I would hope the club would do that in a heartbeat ;)
Is Jon O'Rourke someone the club should be looking at? Don't know a whole lot about him.
Still a bit of unknown about JOR. Injuries and stuff makes it hard to judge. Bit of a risky pick up honestly, which is why I'm not too keen.
Quote from: Nige on September 29, 2014, 08:40:40 PM
Quote from: Toga on September 29, 2014, 08:34:10 PM
Yeah, my main preference for the off-season is a pacey winger with good footskills - someone a bit like Lids even!
I think Weller is my favourite player in this mould from what I have seen so far, although Laverde and Ahern also look decent. But if we could attract someone Dylan Shiel using that pick then I would hope the club would do that in a heartbeat ;)
Is Jon O'Rourke someone the club should be looking at? Don't know a whole lot about him.
Still a bit of unknown about JOR. Injuries and stuff makes it hard to judge. Bit of a risky pick up honestly, which is why I'm not too keen.
Apparently GWS want a first round pick, given Polec cost Port a downgrade of pick 14 to 21, I think it's a bit rich. He's shown nothing to date, a 2nd rounder would be the most he would attract.
Is JOR the kind of winger we might be after though? Haven't really heard who is after him so far...
Quote from: Toga on September 29, 2014, 09:48:54 PM
Is JOR the kind of winger we might be after though? Haven't really heard who is after him so far...
Nah, he's not.
Herald Sun reckon we're in the market for an inside mid but we're laying low in trade talks and happy to go to he draft.
Shiel's not leaving the Giants this year at least and the chances of getting Levi Greenwood are slim to none.
Looks like it might be very quiet October for us.
I reckon we may look at Taylor Hunt, if we can't get Levi (I doubt it).
Quote from: JROO8 on September 30, 2014, 03:08:01 PM
I reckon we may look at Taylor Hunt, if we can't get Levi (I doubt it).
Don't mind Hunt, he has a bit of toe and has served an excellent apprenticeship.
Jack Dyer medal for 2014 is done and dusted.
Winner Trent Cotchin
2nd Brandon Ellis
3rd Dusty
4th Shane Edwards
5th Jack Riewoldt
Well done to Titch on coming 4th, not many would have predicated that at the start of the season but I reckon he's done very well for himself.
In other news, a small rumour has surfaced that we could look at Jason Tutt from the Dogs who wants out of the kennel.
Congrats Cotchy, still wasn't up to his 2012 standards this year but I think he still was instrumental in our turnaround, and his efforts this year have been a bit underrated.
Great efforts by Brando, Dusty and Titch as well, great to see them up there!
Said it in another thread but don't know much about Tutt and haven't really ever watched him play but after a quick search and reading his profiles he looks like the kind of player that we could do with. Sounds like he's pretty quick and has a neat kick on him, so might be a good fit for us.
Great effort by Cotch, although I thought Dusty would take it home!
About Tutt, he won't cost much and we need someone with speed, I'd rather him over someone like Blease.
Richmond has been rumoured as the club to have put a deal in front of exiting Bulldog, Jason Tutt.
Quote from: Nige on October 01, 2014, 03:12:16 PM
Richmond has been rumoured as the club to have put a deal in front of exiting Bulldog, Jason Tutt.
So has Carlton, don't think we'll stitch this one up.
So apparently Armitage, Anthony and Hannebery have been linked to us... :o ???
Just saw something about it on Twitter, first I'm hearing/seeing of this.
Lol what would u guys trade to get Hannebery?
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on October 01, 2014, 10:06:48 PM
Lol what would u guys trade to get Hannebery?
That's what I was thinking when I saw it.
Armitage would be a bit more believable, same with Anthony.
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on October 01, 2014, 10:06:48 PM
Lol what would u guys trade to get Hannebery?
Maybe could trade Vickery but Sydney might have to add their second rounder to get the deal accross ...
lol jks. no idea tbh....
But yeah all three of those definitely interesting prospects... Anthony seems to cop a bit of a knock on his disposal which makes me wonder whether we really need someone like him, but the other two would be gems! Could Armo be moved on by the Saints for the future, as McEvoy was?
So yeah this morning's trade winds on AFL.com have us linked with Armo, Greenwood and Hannebery - and says that Dusty is keen to sign on past the end of 2015!! :D
I would also think that someone like Luke Lowden would be of interest to us... We really need to look at investing in a younger ruckman to start taking over from Ivvy in a few years. Allthough he wouldn't be getting games for a couple of years you wouldn't think so might not be a club he would like to go to..
If went anywhere near that spud Anthony I wouldn't be too happy.
Armo is average, but Hanners is elite. I'd happily give up a bit to get him across.
So confirmed that we're interested in Levi.
http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/richmond-confirms-interest-in-north-melbourne-midfielder-levi-greenwood/story-fn69a32t-1227077521172
Tbh, I think it's unlikely he'll move. He's just had a breakout season at North, so I think he'd want to repay the faith they've had in him. It could be just a ploy by his manager to get Levi more cash from the Roos.
you know you would have to give up someone like Deledio to even come close to getting Hannerbery right?
I don't think you will get any of the three to be honest.
Quote from: Vinny on October 02, 2014, 12:41:41 PM
I don't think you will get any of the three to be honest.
Yeah I don't think we will either.
On the trade radio seemed like its unlikely that Greenwood is leaving North.
Dean Gore ran a 2.94 20 metres, he's just rocketed up the charts for our second rounder.
Quote from: Bully on October 02, 2014, 02:06:59 PM
Dean Gore ran a 2.94 20 metres, he's just rocketed up the charts for our second rounder.
If we picked up Dean Gore, I will cry a river in joy. :')
A few questions fellas.
Who was the most improved in 2014?
Who was the most disappointing in 2014?
Who do you think will be the most improved in 2015?
Who do you think needs to have a big year in 2015?
Quote from: Nige on October 02, 2014, 02:23:02 PM
A few questions fellas.
Who was the most improved in 2014?
Who was the most disappointing in 2014?
Who do you think will be the most improved in 2015?
Who do you think needs to have a big year in 2015?
Most Improved - Griffinator
Most Disappointing - Conca but his lack of preseason needs to be taken into account
Most Improved 2015 - Hopefully Vlaustin who went backwards
Who needs a big year - Conca again, his form in the first 7 rounds was great then fell apart, skinfolds looked disturbing I might add
Most Improved - Griffiths/Miles/Astbury
Most disappointing - Shaun Hampson/Reece Conca
Most Improved 2015 - Nick Vlastuin - as stated, he went backwards, needs to get his 2013 form back/ Nathan Gordon - think he could become a regular starter and kick 25+ goals next year
Who needs a big year - Vickery - Has to kick 40+ goals or else he'll be trade bait, has to prove a lo if Richmond are to take the next step, he needs to be the foil to Riewoldt/ Conca - needs to get his form back up where it was at the back end of last year, will need to show a lot also
One thing I have noticed is that some players are relied upon immensely around the ground and maybe too much - Cotchin 116 clearances to the next best Miles who had 84, then Edwards with 72.. Rebound 50's - Ellis 90 then Houli who had 59.. GOALS - Reiwoldt 58, Dusty 27, Vickers 23.. Such drastic decreases across the board, and with that said they simply need more blokes putting in if they are to become consistent. Very big year for Richmond and Dimma, as they need to strike soon - Newman, Chappy, Ivan etc won't be around forever, and I think they're important to their success with them playing good footy.
Richmond head of football, Dan Richardson has ruled out trading for Carlton pair Mitch Robinson and Jeff Garlett, while contracted Tigers Shaun Grigg and Tyrone Vickery would not be offered up.
I'm actually fairly happy with this news.
Neal-Bullen has just proved he's an elite endurance runner, I like him a lot, would definitely be a viable candidate for our second.
Jay Clark just tweeted this:
Levi Greenwood thanked people at the club but said nothing about his future. Still un-signed.
Get him to the Tigers! We're one of a couple.clubs interested. Out of contarct, so if he wants to comes to us our second rounder should get it done.;)
Quote from: JROO8 on October 03, 2014, 11:11:50 PM
Jay Clark just tweeted this:
Levi Greenwood thanked people at the club but said nothing about his future. Still un-signed.
Get him to the Tigers! We're one of a couple.clubs interested. Out of contarct, so if he wants to comes to us our second rounder should get it done.;)
That's kinda interesting. :o
Apparently this is the case...
Collingwood and the Western Bulldogs have made strong plays for out-of-contract North Melbourne midfielder Levi Greenwood, who is weighing up his future this weekend.
The Magpies, who have a more urgent need for mature midfielders given the imminent exit of Heritier Lumumba and likely departure of Dayne Beams, are understood to have offered a more significant contract to Greenwood than North, which is awaiting word on the 25-year-old's decision.
The Bulldogs, too, have made a pitch for Greenwood, having lost free agent Shaun Higgins to North and received a second-round draft pick in return.
Collingwood have reportedly tabled a four-year deal, which trumps the Bulldogs' offer of three.
It really looks like we're just sitting on our hands and waiting for the draft this year.
Quote from: Nige on October 04, 2014, 09:17:06 AM
It really looks like we're just sitting on our hands and waiting for the draft this year.
Yeah that's what I'm thinking. Tbh I wouldn't be surprised if we didn't complete a single trade.
Quote from: JROO8 on October 04, 2014, 10:44:42 AM
Quote from: Nige on October 04, 2014, 09:17:06 AM
It really looks like we're just sitting on our hands and waiting for the draft this year.
Yeah that's what I'm thinking. Tbh I wouldn't be surprised if we didn't complete a single trade.
Reading an article just before and seeing what Dan Richardson had to say, it appears we're still definitely interested but the club feels like he will stay at North and that's why they haven't actually bothered with offers. If he decides he wants to leave North, then we'll get involved.
Not too sure what I think of that approach though seeing as the Pies and Dogs have seemingly made offers.
Quote from: Nige on October 04, 2014, 11:05:11 AM
Quote from: JROO8 on October 04, 2014, 10:44:42 AM
Quote from: Nige on October 04, 2014, 09:17:06 AM
It really looks like we're just sitting on our hands and waiting for the draft this year.
Yeah that's what I'm thinking. Tbh I wouldn't be surprised if we didn't complete a single trade.
Reading an article just before and seeing what Dan Richardson had to say, it appears we're still definitely interested but the club feels like he will stay at North and that's why they haven't actually bothered with offers. If he decides he wants to leave North, then we'll get involved.
Not too sure what I think of that approach though seeing as the Pies and Dogs have seemingly made offers.
I like the tigers approach. Tell the other clubs to do that :P Give him some space and let him realise how good he has it at North. Repay the faith Greenwood!
Roos have increased there offer to Greenwood in $ and length think he will stay but what about Kyle Martin seen lots of people singing his praises but could not even crack it for a game at the Pies even with 27 possie avg. and 28 goals in 15 games in VFL , I would not be against giving him a chance for one year to prove himself , worth a go ?
Quote from: shaker on October 05, 2014, 12:47:55 PM
Roos have increased there offer to Greenwood in $ and length think he will stay but what about Kyle Martin seen lots of people singing his praises but could not even crack it for a game at the Pies even with 27 possie avg. and 28 goals in 15 games in VFL , I would not be against giving him a chance for one year to prove himself , worth a go ?
Kyle Martin retired from AFL football mate, he's not going to any other AFL or at any state league club. He's stated a desire to return to life as normal (I think he's qualify as a tradie of some kind iirc) and just play local footy for Noble Park.
Quote from: Nige on October 05, 2014, 12:53:18 PM
Quote from: shaker on October 05, 2014, 12:47:55 PM
Roos have increased there offer to Greenwood in $ and length think he will stay but what about Kyle Martin seen lots of people singing his praises but could not even crack it for a game at the Pies even with 27 possie avg. and 28 goals in 15 games in VFL , I would not be against giving him a chance for one year to prove himself , worth a go ?
Kyle Martin retired from AFL football mate, he's not going to any other AFL or at any state league club. He's stated a desire to return to life as normal (I think he's qualify as a tradie of some kind iirc) and just play local footy for Noble Park.
Don't know about you Nige but think there is something is very smelly at the Pies Beams leaving for his dads health but snubbing the Copeland and a players function at the races yesterday why would he do that ? is there more than we are hearing. Martin could be putting that out there to get noticed in a hectic trade period , would not be surprised if he gets a few phone calls and see him at another club next year
Quote from: shaker on October 05, 2014, 01:08:16 PM
Quote from: Nige on October 05, 2014, 12:53:18 PM
Quote from: shaker on October 05, 2014, 12:47:55 PM
Roos have increased there offer to Greenwood in $ and length think he will stay but what about Kyle Martin seen lots of people singing his praises but could not even crack it for a game at the Pies even with 27 possie avg. and 28 goals in 15 games in VFL , I would not be against giving him a chance for one year to prove himself , worth a go ?
Kyle Martin retired from AFL football mate, he's not going to any other AFL or at any state league club. He's stated a desire to return to life as normal (I think he's qualify as a tradie of some kind iirc) and just play local footy for Noble Park.
Don't know about you Nige but think there is something is very smelly at the Pies Beams leaving for his dads health but snubbing the Copeland and a players function at the races yesterday why would he do that ? is there more than we are hearing. Martin could be putting that out there to get noticed in a hectic trade period , would not be surprised if he gets a few phone calls and see him at another club next year
I think you're reading into it all a bit too much and need to chill out on the conspiracy theories.
Beams wants to go back to Queensland to be with his father, he obviously doesn't want to be with Collingwood anymore and it's probably his way of signalling his intent to sever ties and move on.
If Martin has stated he doesn't want to play AFL footy, he can't be forced to do that. If he's decided to choose a different career path other than being a footballer, let him be. Tom Swift gave up footy with the Eagles to become a doctor. If Martin wanted to move clubs, I'm sure he would have said something.
Don't know about conspiracy theories think it's very strange what Beams is doing if he only wants out because of his dads health as for Martin I see your point but maybe he is sick of doing all the work for no reward , 3 Liston trophies on the trot think his phone will be ringing
Quote from: shaker on October 05, 2014, 02:02:17 PM
Don't know about conspiracy theories think it's very strange what Beams is doing if he only wants out because of his dads health as for Martin I see your point but maybe he is sick of doing all the work for no reward , 3 Liston trophies on the trot think his phone will be ringing
I don't understand how it's strange. Yes, he's currently still contracted but he must not feel obligated to attend as a player that wants out of the club and is likely to depart. They can't force him to attend events or sanction him in any way.
Martin got a one year contract and was elevated from the rookie list after good form, so I don't know what you mean by 'all the work for no reward', not to mention with all the Pies midfield drama and departure of guys like Beams, Ball and Lumumba his chances would increase of playing weekly. Also, where the hell did you get that Liston stuff from? He hasn't won it...
Anyway, neither is coming to Richmond, let's keep this Richmond related.
It's very very strange that a player not attend those events for the club he is suppose to still love, but most importantly for his mates there, if the sole reason he wants to leave is family reasons only
Quote from: Ricochet on October 05, 2014, 02:21:06 PM
It's very very strange that a player not attend those events for the club he is suppose to still love, but most importantly for his mates there, if the sole reason he wants to leave is family reasons only
Yeah, I know and agree, I'm just not willing to start suggesting any suss is going on when we clearly don't know the full story.
My bad Nige 3 consecutive Best and Fairest read it wrong and yes it is not related to the Tiges so that's it no more but how can you agree with Rico and disagree with me when we are both saying what Beams did is strange ? :o
Quote from: shaker on October 05, 2014, 02:50:15 PM
My bad Nige 3 consecutive Best and Fairest read it wrong and yes it is not related to the Tiges so that's it no more but how can you agree with Rico and disagree with me when we are both saying what Beams did is strange ? :o
Haha my bad, not sure why I added the last bit. I meant to say "I don't know" but must have typed an extra bit and then backspaced and forgot to omit the bit that made it read the way it did. :o From memory I typed "I don't know, but I can see how it's strange"
It is strange, which is why I agreed with Rico, but I was assuming Beams' feelings.
Quote from: Nige on October 05, 2014, 03:25:03 PM
Quote from: shaker on October 05, 2014, 02:50:15 PM
My bad Nige 3 consecutive Best and Fairest read it wrong and yes it is not related to the Tiges so that's it no more but how can you agree with Rico and disagree with me when we are both saying what Beams did is strange ? :o
Haha my bad, not sure why I added the last bit. I meant to say "I don't know" but must have typed an extra bit and then backspaced and forgot to omit the bit that made it read the way it did. :o From memory I typed "I don't know, but I can see how it's strange"
It is strange, which is why I agreed with Rico, but I was assuming Beams' feelings.
Ha ha ha just wanted to know if you were disagreeing with me for the hell of it and like you said neither will be at the Tiges next year and as for " all the work and no reward " just that with the Pies season going downhill with form and injuries he still could not get a game ? and there seemed to be worse players than him getting games ;)
Quote from: shaker on October 05, 2014, 03:35:25 PM
Quote from: Nige on October 05, 2014, 03:25:03 PM
Quote from: shaker on October 05, 2014, 02:50:15 PM
My bad Nige 3 consecutive Best and Fairest read it wrong and yes it is not related to the Tiges so that's it no more but how can you agree with Rico and disagree with me when we are both saying what Beams did is strange ? :o
Haha my bad, not sure why I added the last bit. I meant to say "I don't know" but must have typed an extra bit and then backspaced and forgot to omit the bit that made it read the way it did. :o From memory I typed "I don't know, but I can see how it's strange"
It is strange, which is why I agreed with Rico, but I was assuming Beams' feelings.
Ha ha ha just wanted to know if you were disagreeing with me for the hell of it and like you said neither will be at the Tiges next year and as for " all the work and no reward " just that with the Pies season going downhill with form and injuries he still could not get a game ? and there seemed to be worse players than him getting games ;)
Kmart was on the rookie list for a lot of the season man, and what worse players got games ahead of him? I saw Josh Thomas almost win us the game off his own boot a time or two and players like broomhead and bennedy needed to get games for fear they would leave for adelaide.
Beams situation is suss though, agree with you there!
why is it suss? his dad has cancer and he wants to be closer so he can see him more nothing suss with that
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on October 05, 2014, 05:13:51 PM
why is it suss? his dad has cancer and he wants to be closer so he can see him more nothing suss with that
More in reference to his no-show at the b&f mate.
Quote from: Spite on October 05, 2014, 05:07:38 PM
Quote from: shaker on October 05, 2014, 03:35:25 PM
Quote from: Nige on October 05, 2014, 03:25:03 PM
Quote from: shaker on October 05, 2014, 02:50:15 PM
My bad Nige 3 consecutive Best and Fairest read it wrong and yes it is not related to the Tiges so that's it no more but how can you agree with Rico and disagree with me when we are both saying what Beams did is strange ? :o
Haha my bad, not sure why I added the last bit. I meant to say "I don't know" but must have typed an extra bit and then backspaced and forgot to omit the bit that made it read the way it did. :o From memory I typed "I don't know, but I can see how it's strange"
It is strange, which is why I agreed with Rico, but I was assuming Beams' feelings.
Ha ha ha just wanted to know if you were disagreeing with me for the hell of it and like you said neither will be at the Tiges next year and as for " all the work and no reward " just that with the Pies season going downhill with form and injuries he still could not get a game ? and there seemed to be worse players than him getting games ;)
Kmart was on the rookie list for a lot of the season man, and what worse players got games ahead of him? I saw Josh Thomas almost win us the game off his own boot a time or two and players like broomhead and bennedy needed to get games for fear they would leave for adelaide.
Beams situation is suss though, agree with you there!
Just that he could not get a game when they were going bad with injuries and form but if you want to discuss maybe we move it to Pies site only brought him up as a possible Tiges target
I hate this time of the year. So many BS rumours and speculation.
Someone wake me up when its over
With it looking likely that Greenwood will be leaving Arden St, do the Tiges get involved?
Quote from: Toga on October 06, 2014, 03:17:04 PM
With it looking likely that Greenwood will be leaving Arden St, do the Tiges get involved?
Looks like he's off to the Pies.
Nick Bowen ✔ @AFL_Nick
Collingwood list manager Derek Hine says Levi Greenwood has yet to make up his mind on his future.
Pls come to Tigerland Levi. :-*
Quote from: Toga on October 06, 2014, 04:01:39 PM
Nick Bowen ✔ @AFL_Nick
Collingwood list manager Derek Hine says Levi Greenwood has yet to make up his mind on his future.
Yeah just all rumors ATM but if he did become available think he will be hot property think we would probably have to cough up our 1st round to be a chance , don't know if he is worth that much but good mids don't come along everyday
http://www.theage.com.au/afl/afl-news/another-bomber-wants-out-jason-winderlich-wants-to-play-on-with-tigers-20141006-10r1mw.html
:o
I'm actually fine with this. If he's not going to cost much, which he shouldn't, this could work out nicely.
Quote from: Nige on October 06, 2014, 08:43:06 PM
http://www.theage.com.au/afl/afl-news/another-bomber-wants-out-jason-winderlich-wants-to-play-on-with-tigers-20141006-10r1mw.html
:o
I'm actually fine with this. If he's not going to cost much, which he shouldn't, this could work out nicely.
Wowee, just saw this.
I'd be pretty happy with Licka, he's a gun when fit. If his body can hold up, he'd be a great fit for us.
Would be that classy small forward we have been looking for. Knights could play a similar role when fit, so hopefully we can grab him and at least one of them will be fit :P
Quote from: Toga on October 06, 2014, 09:02:15 PM
Would be that classy small forward we have been looking for. Knights could play a similar role when fit, so hopefully we can grab him and at least one of them will be fit :P
This was literally my thought process when reading the article.
(https://fbcdn-sphotos-e-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xfp1/v/t1.0-9/10342012_726149817432580_5780837903489287877_n.png?oh=2b37e7eb91f4fd971554a8e12547d78c&oe=54AC1B99&__gda__=1420429072_c6a504aef5022dab4fbba35eabb81624)
Licka looks good in yellow and black, but then again... so does everybody. ;)
Just pasting these posts from the best 22 thread here as well since their subject matter fits in here.
Quote from: Nige on October 08, 2014, 09:44:50 AM
Quote from: shaker on October 08, 2014, 09:37:59 AM
If we can get Winderlich as a UFA good but reported in todays herald sun Dan Richardson said they would not trade for him they really seem intent on keeping the picks intact this year , as for Garlett prefer we steer clear look at him he is built like a whippet but rarely plays like one lazy in my opinion probably why Malthouse put a line through him well before the end of the season .
Yeah, I agree.
Just on Licka, I reckon we'll end up getting him through free agency, a bit like how the NDS joined the Roos (heard/read something the other day comparing the two).
Found this: http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/jason-winderlich-will-never-play-for-essendon-again-hoping-to-continue-career-with-richmond/story-fni5f6kv-1227083012172 and this: http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/jason-winderlich-will-never-play-for-essendon-again-hoping-to-continue-career-with-richmond/story-fni5f6kv-1227083012172
These five lines are the relevant bit
QuoteWinderlich triggered a contract extension with the Bombers this year, and consequently did not appear on the list of unrestricted free agents distributed to clubs recently.
It means Richmond would have to trade for him, or that Essendon could release him from the contract extension and allow him to join the Tigers with more ease.
In that scenario Essendon - currently restricted to picks 20, 50 and 68 in the national draft because of the club's draft penalties - would receive compensation for Winderlich's departure.
A life member and much-loved player at Essendon, Winderlich's contractual situation is similar to that faced by Nick Dal Santo, North Melbourne and St Kilda at the end of last season.
Dal Santo triggered a contract extension to remain at the Saints at the end of the 2013 season, but the club agreed to release him from that contract so that he could join North.
Well done Nige it looks like the Bombers will have to release him to have any chance of getting something for him which is a win win situation for us , keeping all our picks intact and getting him would be nice
Can we get Winderlich with free agency?
Quote from: Kellogscrunchynut on October 08, 2014, 04:03:28 PM
Can we get Winderlich with free agency?
Yes, but Essendon have to release him from his contract, from him to become a free agent.
Quote from: Kellogscrunchynut on October 08, 2014, 04:03:28 PM
Can we get Winderlich with free agency?
Yep. He should have been a free agent this year but had a clause in his contract to trigger a third year which would be 2015 a bit like Nick Dal Santo at the Saints.
However, if Essendon release him from his contract like the Saints did with NDS we could sign him as a free agent and the Bombers would probably get a compo pick.
Quote from: Nige on October 08, 2014, 04:10:56 PM
Quote from: Kellogscrunchynut on October 08, 2014, 04:03:28 PM
Can we get Winderlich with free agency?
Yep. He should have been a free agent this year but had a clause in his contract to trigger a third year which would be 2015 a bit like Nick Dal Santo at the Saints.
However, if Essendon release him from his contract like the Saints did with NDS we could sign him as a free agent and the Bombers would probably get a compo pick.
Would they actually get a compo pick though? Or would his contract be similar to Waite's?
Quote from: Big Mac on October 08, 2014, 04:24:09 PM
Quote from: Nige on October 08, 2014, 04:10:56 PM
Quote from: Kellogscrunchynut on October 08, 2014, 04:03:28 PM
Can we get Winderlich with free agency?
Yep. He should have been a free agent this year but had a clause in his contract to trigger a third year which would be 2015 a bit like Nick Dal Santo at the Saints.
However, if Essendon release him from his contract like the Saints did with NDS we could sign him as a free agent and the Bombers would probably get a compo pick.
Would they actually get a compo pick though? Or would his contract be similar to Waite's?
Not sure. I can definitely see the likeness between this situation at the Dal Santo one. Waite's like 32, Licka is 29 which would probably help Essendon's case. Might fetch a second or third round pick if Higgins got a second round pick.
Think they would get a third rounder at best for him, although it would depend on contract length and size obviously
Sweet is he fast?
flowering Licka.
@barrettdamian: Bombers have managed to talk Winderlich into a 180. Now looking at staying, after telling club two weeks ago he was out @traderadio
Bugger, hoping Knights can get and stay fit.
Reports Dahlhaus might be wanting out too from Barrett, do we make a play? :o
Quote from: Nige on October 10, 2014, 03:27:11 PM
Reports Dahlhaus might be wanting out too from Barrett, do we make a play? :o
you'd be silly not to.
Throw up a key fwd?
Quote from: Ricochet on October 10, 2014, 03:27:45 PM
Quote from: Nige on October 10, 2014, 03:27:11 PM
Reports Dahlhaus might be wanting out too from Barrett, do we make a play? :o
you'd be silly not to.
Throw up a key fwd?
Dogs would be keen on Griff or Tyrone, but they singed deals this year, so won't be traded.
Highly unlikely that we'll get him across.
Quote from: Ricochet on October 10, 2014, 03:27:45 PM
Quote from: Nige on October 10, 2014, 03:27:11 PM
Reports Dahlhaus might be wanting out too from Barrett, do we make a play? :o
you'd be silly not to.
Throw up a key fwd?
The club isn't interested in trading a tall apparently. I can't imagine Jack, Ty, Griff or Beanie going.
If anyone, Elton maybe, but he hasn't shown much and I doubt the Dogs would want him.
Quote from: JROO8 on October 10, 2014, 03:29:11 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on October 10, 2014, 03:27:45 PM
Quote from: Nige on October 10, 2014, 03:27:11 PM
Reports Dahlhaus might be wanting out too from Barrett, do we make a play? :o
you'd be silly not to.
Throw up a key fwd?
Dogs would be keen on Griff or Tyrone, but they singed deals this year, so won't be traded.
Highly unlikely that we'll get him across.
Doesn't mean much these days :P
We would be crazy not to go after Dahlhaus if he is not happy, could really use a small fwd like him especially if Winderlich is staying at Essendon..
I know Vickery signed a deal this season but he could still be used as trade bait, happy enough to hang on to him though ;)
Apparently a Tigerland trade bomb coming through shortly... :o
Yep here it is!
http://www.news.com.au/sport/afl/jack-trengove-could-be-traded-to-richmond-from-melbourne/story-fndv8t7m-1227086775552
Finally something outta Tigerland
Wow! That's a bit out of the blue!
Wouldn't complain with that, although I thought we might've been looking to hang on to our early draft picks this year
"The Demons are considering swapping the midfielder and selection No. 23 for the Tigers
Copy & paste issue again. ::)
But the deal is Pick 12 for Trengove + Pick 23... Not a bad move if you ask me
Hm, I wonder where he fits and who he pushes out.
I wonder if this is the end of Conca or Grigg.
So he's apparently reluctant to move but has completed the medical check and toured the facilities.
Quote from: Nige on October 10, 2014, 06:28:18 PM
So he's apparently reluctant to move but has completed the medical check and toured the facilities.
Yeah thought that was weird. Hopefully we can convince him to come across.
The drop from 12 to 23 isn't big, so I'd happily do that.
The quality of this year's draft comforts me in regards to the pick swap.
Quote from: Nige on October 10, 2014, 06:25:10 PM
Hm, I wonder where he fits and who he pushes out.
I wonder if this is the end of Conca or Grigg.
:o
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Hm, I wonder where he fits and who he pushes out.
I wonder if this is the end of Conca or Grigg.
:o
Eh, imo he hasn't quite come on like I think the club has thought he would.
I personally feel like he's stalled a bit and both Ellis and even Vlastuin have kinda gone past him.
Could send him back to WA for somebody. :P
Agree he probably stalled a bit in his development this year Nige but still think we need him as apart from Cotchin & Miles our inside mids aren't that flash (although Vlastuin is coming along nicely).
Think Trengove could push Grigg out of the side though for sure, looks like he'd be a bit of an upgrade on Griggy. Although what kind of player actually is Trengove? Admittedly don't watch a whole lot of Melbourne games but from what I've seen of him is he a bit of an inside/outside hybrid?
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Hm, I wonder where he fits and who he pushes out.
I wonder if this is the end of Conca or Grigg.
:o
Eh, imo he hasn't quite come on like I think the club has thought he would.
I personally feel like he's stalled a bit and both Ellis and even Vlastuin have kinda gone past him.
Could send him back to WA for somebody. :P
For Welly? Done. I post you confirm.
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Hm, I wonder where he fits and who he pushes out.
I wonder if this is the end of Conca or Grigg.
:o
Eh, imo he hasn't quite come on like I think the club has thought he would.
I personally feel like he's stalled a bit and both Ellis and even Vlastuin have kinda gone past him.
Could send him back to WA for somebody. :P
For Welly? Done. I post you confirm.
flower no!
The only way we'll take Welly is if you give up a pick upgrade, to take him.
So, Welly + 1st rounder for our 2nd rounder?
Him and Scully have both shown bugger all since being drafted , has he got speed no , has he shown hard ball winning ability no , thought the Tiges had woken up this year but no looks like they could get sucked in again :(
Quote from: shaker on October 10, 2014, 08:05:55 PM
Him and Scully have both shown bugger all since being drafted , has he got speed no , has he shown hard ball winning ability no , thought the Tiges had woken up this year but no looks like they could get sucked in again :(
Sorry man, don't agree.
Has shown a bit, early in his career.
He's not the fastest, but that's because of injuries.
The downgrade from pick 12 to 23 isn't massive, we'll still get a very good youngster that we want with that pick.
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Hm, I wonder where he fits and who he pushes out.
I wonder if this is the end of Conca or Grigg.
:o
Eh, imo he hasn't quite come on like I think the club has thought he would.
I personally feel like he's stalled a bit and both Ellis and even Vlastuin have kinda gone past him.
Could send him back to WA for somebody. :P
For Welly? Done. I post you confirm.
flower no!
The only way we'll take Welly is if you give up a pick upgrade, to take him.
So, Welly + 1st rounder for our 2nd rounder?
Welly is elite mate. Infinity times more premierships than Cotchin.
Quote from: shaker on October 10, 2014, 08:05:55 PM
Him and Scully have both shown bugger all since being drafted , has he got speed no , has he shown hard ball winning ability no , thought the Tiges had woken up this year but no looks like they could get sucked in again :(
flower outta here with the pessimistic shower.
As I said in the other thread, not a huge Trengove fan but there's no doubt he's better than Scully and has shown how good he can be, the burden of captaincy when he was so young plus a terrible foot injury means we haven't seen nearly half of what he can do. In the proposed/rumoured trade, we're definitely winning.
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Hm, I wonder where he fits and who he pushes out.
I wonder if this is the end of Conca or Grigg.
:o
Eh, imo he hasn't quite come on like I think the club has thought he would.
I personally feel like he's stalled a bit and both Ellis and even Vlastuin have kinda gone past him.
Could send him back to WA for somebody. :P
For Welly? Done. I post you confirm.
Pls. Send us old mate Scooter. ;)
You guys are desperate for the Tiges to do something even if it's crap this guy has shown little , if he is so good good why are the Dees looking to unload him so quick , have not heard " he a required player and we need good compo " line from them ,please
Very unlikely Melbourne would want pick 12 just to draft another midfielder. Something else would be at play here.
Quote from: Big Mac on October 10, 2014, 08:34:10 PM
Very unlikely Melbourne would want pick 12 just to draft another midfielder. Something else would be at play here.
2,3,12 for Danger? :P
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Very unlikely Melbourne would want pick 12 just to draft another midfielder. Something else would be at play here.
2,3,12 for Danger? :P
He's not worth that much :P
Quote from: shaker on October 10, 2014, 08:23:44 PM
You guys are desperate for the Tiges to do something even if it's crap this guy has shown little , if he is so good good why are the Dees looking to unload him so quick , have not heard " he a required player and we need good compo " line from them ,please
No. You're right. Let's not trade. Ever. From this year on the Richmond Football Club should always go to the draft and never trade for picks or players or explore free agency. In fact, better idea, let's fold and allow the AFL to create a Tasmanian team.
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You guys are desperate for the Tiges to do something even if it's crap this guy has shown little , if he is so good good why are the Dees looking to unload him so quick , have not heard " he a required player and we need good compo " line from them ,please
No. You're right. Let's not trade. Ever. From this year on the Richmond Football Club should always go to the draft and never trade for picks or players or explore free agency. In fact, better idea, let's fold and allow the AFL to create a Tasmanian team.
But first you'll give us Conca for Welly. Deal? :P
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You guys are desperate for the Tiges to do something even if it's crap this guy has shown little , if he is so good good why are the Dees looking to unload him so quick , have not heard " he a required player and we need good compo " line from them ,please
No. You're right. Let's not trade. Ever. From this year on the Richmond Football Club should always go to the draft and never trade for picks or players or explore free agency. In fact, better idea, let's fold and allow the AFL to create a Tasmanian team.
But first you'll give us Conca for Welly. Deal? :P
Nah, we're not supposed to trade according to shaker. Sorry.
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You guys are desperate for the Tiges to do something even if it's crap this guy has shown little , if he is so good good why are the Dees looking to unload him so quick , have not heard " he a required player and we need good compo " line from them ,please
No. You're right. Let's not trade. Ever. From this year on the Richmond Football Club should always go to the draft and never trade for picks or players or explore free agency. In fact, better idea, let's fold and allow the AFL to create a Tasmanian team.
But first you'll give us Conca for Welly. Deal? :P
Nah, we're not supposed to trade according to shaker. Sorry.
I feel like if I keep posting this, eventually one of you boys will be like "flower off ele, sick of your shower. We'll take the deal if you get flowered".
And then, and only then, I will celebrate like no tomorrow.
I actually rate Conca, expecting big things from him. Coming into the past few season I've been expecting Reece play like how Miles has played this season.
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You guys are desperate for the Tiges to do something even if it's crap this guy has shown little , if he is so good good why are the Dees looking to unload him so quick , have not heard " he a required player and we need good compo " line from them ,please
No. You're right. Let's not trade. Ever. From this year on the Richmond Football Club should always go to the draft and never trade for picks or players or explore free agency. In fact, better idea, let's fold and allow the AFL to create a Tasmanian team.
Don't be silly Nige the guy is a spud him and Scully will go down as the biggest flop for 1 , 2 in history I would rather seen us cough our first pick for Greenwood , Trengrove has shown nothing he's not fast , have not seen him getting much hard ball what is he going to bring to the Tiges ?
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You guys are desperate for the Tiges to do something even if it's crap this guy has shown little , if he is so good good why are the Dees looking to unload him so quick , have not heard " he a required player and we need good compo " line from them ,please
No. You're right. Let's not trade. Ever. From this year on the Richmond Football Club should always go to the draft and never trade for picks or players or explore free agency. In fact, better idea, let's fold and allow the AFL to create a Tasmanian team.
Don't be silly Nige the guy is a spud him and Scully will go down as the biggest flop for 1 , 2 in history I would rather seen us cough our first pick for Greenwood , Trengrove has shown nothing he's not fast , have not seen him getting much hard ball what is he going to bring to the Tiges ?
Did you not see any of the footy he played in his first season?
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You guys are desperate for the Tiges to do something even if it's crap this guy has shown little , if he is so good good why are the Dees looking to unload him so quick , have not heard " he a required player and we need good compo " line from them ,please
No. You're right. Let's not trade. Ever. From this year on the Richmond Football Club should always go to the draft and never trade for picks or players or explore free agency. In fact, better idea, let's fold and allow the AFL to create a Tasmanian team.
Don't be silly Nige the guy is a spud him and Scully will go down as the biggest flop for 1 , 2 in history I would rather seen us cough our first pick for Greenwood , Trengrove has shown nothing he's not fast , have not seen him getting much hard ball what is he going to bring to the Tiges ?
Did you not see any of the footy he played in his first season?
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I like it.
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You guys are desperate for the Tiges to do something even if it's crap this guy has shown little , if he is so good good why are the Dees looking to unload him so quick , have not heard " he a required player and we need good compo " line from them ,please
No. You're right. Let's not trade. Ever. From this year on the Richmond Football Club should always go to the draft and never trade for picks or players or explore free agency. In fact, better idea, let's fold and allow the AFL to create a Tasmanian team.
Don't be silly Nige the guy is a spud him and Scully will go down as the biggest flop for 1 , 2 in history I would rather seen us cough our first pick for Greenwood , Trengrove has shown nothing he's not fast , have not seen him getting much hard ball what is he going to bring to the Tiges ?
Did you not see any of the footy he played in his first season?
No does not jump to mind and nor do the other 4 or 5 years since , now tell me what he will bring to the Tiges that we don't already have and feel to answer that as well Nige.
If only we can convince Greenwood to come across.
Pick 12 for Trengove + Pick 23
Then send pick 23 to Norf for Levi 8)
Not sure what's happening with Levi though, said he was off to the Pies, but looks as though he could stay.
everyone looks good in the yellow and black. even Saints players would probably look good in y&b. having said that though don't go poaching any of our young guys
but just as an example, Nige do you maje those pictures yourself? if you do I'd like to see what Dunstan looks like in y&b. but then delete it straight away and I'll delete this here post
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everyone looks good in the yellow and black. even Saints players would probably look good in y&b. having said that though don't go poaching any of our young guys
but just as an example, Nige do you maje those pictures yourself? if you do I'd like to see what Dunstan looks like in y&b. but then delete it straight away and I'll delete this here post
Hahaha
you barbie jroo. alright you're in this game too
Quote from: brad on October 10, 2014, 09:33:36 PM
everyone looks good in the yellow and black. even Saints players would probably look good in y&b. having said that though don't go poaching any of our young guys
but just as an example, Nige do you maje those pictures yourself? if you do I'd like to see what Dunstan looks like in y&b. but then delete it straight away and I'll delete this here post
Nah, I don't. I get them from Facebook/Twitter. :P
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Quote from: brad on October 10, 2014, 09:33:36 PM
everyone looks good in the yellow and black. even Saints players would probably look good in y&b. having said that though don't go poaching any of our young guys
but just as an example, Nige do you maje those pictures yourself? if you do I'd like to see what Dunstan looks like in y&b. but then delete it straight away and I'll delete this here post
Hahaha
Nice one JRoo.
Oh shower..woops.
>:D
damn sorta
alright lets delete these posts shall we
no sir vincent
Quote from: brad on October 10, 2014, 09:33:36 PM
I'd like to see what Dunstan looks like in y&b. but then delete it straight away and I'll delete this here post
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I won't delete this one >:D
haha see what I mean. it really suits him.
I've brought shame to my family. lets delete this :( :P
It really does mate... Where do we sign? ;)
Richmond can sign their death certificate if they even think about poaching Sir Lukey Dunstan, Toges :P
(http://www.saints.com.au/staticfile/AFL%20Tenant/StKilda/Player%20Profiles/2014%20-%20Profiles/DUNSTAN%20Luke.png)
that's where it's at
thanks btw man :P
Haha no probs man ;)
Quote from: Nige on October 10, 2014, 08:50:27 PM
In fact, better idea, let's fold and allow the AFL to create a Tasmanian team.
Hey, that's a bit rough. I'm from Tasmania and I love the Tigers, but I still want a Tassie side in the AFL.
Saw something on Twitter about us apparently offering Conca to West Coast. :o
Quote from: Nige on October 13, 2014, 10:26:49 AM
Saw something on Twitter about us apparently offering Conca to West Coast. :o
Wouldn't surprise me, he is a WA boy.
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Saw something on Twitter about us apparently offering Conca to West Coast. :o
Wouldn't surprise me, he is a WA boy.
Left wondering what comes our way in return whether pick or player.
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Saw something on Twitter about us apparently offering Conca to West Coast. :o
Wouldn't surprise me, he is a WA boy.
Left wondering what comes our way in return whether pick or player.
Wellingham :P no but seriously, I'm not sure. Conca was pick 5 but I don't know if we'd offer up our pick 11 for him...
About Conca, it could possibly be that we trade #23 from Melbourne and Conca for Pick 11.
So basically we could trade Conca for Trengove and move our first rounder up one spot.
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About Conca, it could possibly be that we trade #23 from Melbourne and Conca for Pick 11.
So basically we could trade Conca for Trengove and move our first rounder up one spot.
I wouldn't mind that at all tbh.
All depends how much we want Pickett I guess!
I'd rather keep Conca and do the original deal, tbh.
Don't think it's worth trading Conca for a deal like that considering how much we have invested in him
Brett Anderson has reported on 1116 SEN that the Western Bulldogs have shown some interested in Richmond defender, Matthew Dea. The Bulldogs could sign him during the delisted free agency period on November 1st, with Richmond set to delist the 23 year-old.
Quote from: Nige on October 13, 2014, 06:39:36 PM
Brett Anderson has reported on 1116 SEN that the Western Bulldogs have shown some interested in Richmond defender, Matthew Dea. The Bulldogs could sign him during the delisted free agency period on November 1st, with Richmond set to delist the 23 year-old.
I'd be happy for him to move to get more opportunities, if he does get delisted.
I kinda like Matty Dea. Haven't ever seen him do a great deal wrong tbh. If he wants more game time I can't argue with that, but I'm selfish as I hate it when 99% of our players leave.
Quote from: Chelskiman on October 13, 2014, 07:13:14 PM
I kinda like Matty Dea. Haven't ever seen him do a great deal wrong tbh. If he wants more game time I can't argue with that, but I'm selfish as I hate it when 99% of our players leave.
I feel exactly the same.
I wouldn't be upset if he tried to gain a best 22 spot at another club, there are a few clubs who could definitely accommodate him.
I'd hope that if he did go to the Dogs, he was in fact a starter for them. Could they throw in Tutt in return? :P
I don't think we will delist him given how many we have already delisted. Pretty highly rated at the club from what I can see, was a part of the leadership group that went to Brazil last year, and is the obvious replacement for Newman at the end of next year.
Also just watched today's Footy Feed on AFL.com, says that both Melbourne and Richmond are pretty happy with the deal we have tabled for Trengove, and it's now up to him as to whether he wants to be a Tiger... The bloke reporting this seemed to think it's pretty likely he will be in the yellow and black next year ;)
Quote from: Toga on October 13, 2014, 07:45:05 PM
I don't think we will delist him given how many we have already delisted. Pretty highly rated at the club from what I can see, was a part of the leadership group that went to Brazil last year, and is the obvious replacement for Newman at the end of next year.
Yeah I reckon he could replace Newy.
In other news, I reckon Trengove deal could be done tomorrow :)
If we can wrp up the Trengove deal tomorrow that would be amazing!
Would be very surprised if the deal was pick 23 and Trengove for pick 12 though.
Why's that Big Mac, you reckon Melbourne will be asking for more?
Quote from: Big Mac on October 13, 2014, 07:52:30 PM
Would be very surprised if the deal was pick 23 and Trengove for pick 12 though.
That will be the deal, 100% IMO.
Quote from: Toga on October 13, 2014, 07:57:04 PM
Why's that Big Mac, you reckon Melbourne will be asking for more?
Could be a tad bias but I just think he would be worth a lot more to Melbourne. Has never really had a chance to develop (shower coaches, 186, captaincy, injuries etc) either. Depends on what we would be using the pick for I guess. Would still be expecting a 3rd rounder back though
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Would be very surprised if the deal was pick 23 and Trengove for pick 12 though.
AFL should step in and stop the rape aha
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Would be very surprised if the deal was pick 23 and Trengove for pick 12 though.
AFL should step in and stop the rape aha
Haha c'mon, even though it seems like a good trade for us, Trengove does have his risks!
picks 2,3 and 12 would be a really good get for Melbourne
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Would be very surprised if the deal was pick 23 and Trengove for pick 12 though.
AFL should step in and stop the rape aha
Haha c'mon, even though it seems like a good trade for us, Trengove does have his risks!
Former pick 2 + 23 for 12. Pls :p sure there's been injuries etc but he hasn't lost the talent.
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picks 2,3 and 12 would be a really good get for Melbourne
I think we need 12 to go with one of the other two for a trade
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Would be very surprised if the deal was pick 23 and Trengove for pick 12 though.
AFL should step in and stop the rape aha
Haha c'mon, even though it seems like a good trade for us, Trengove does have his risks!
Former pick 2 + 23 for 12. Pls :p sure there's been injuries etc but he hasn't lost the talent.
so they should have blocked the O' Rourke trade then?
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Would be very surprised if the deal was pick 23 and Trengove for pick 12 though.
AFL should step in and stop the rape aha
Haha c'mon, even though it seems like a good trade for us, Trengove does have his risks!
Former pick 2 + 23 for 12. Pls :p sure there's been injuries etc but he hasn't lost the talent.
so they should have blocked the O' Rourke trade then?
Completely different scenario.
Trengove has shown something at AFL level, great leadership skills, etc.
O'Rourke has done very little and was in fact a very surprising pick 2. Most had him closer to #10. GWS took him to keep the three Vic boys together.
So, no. Lol.
Quote from: Big Mac on October 13, 2014, 08:07:41 PM
Could be a tad bias but I just think he would be worth a lot more to Melbourne. Has never really had a chance to develop (shower coaches, 186, captaincy, injuries etc) either. Depends on what we would be using the pick for I guess. Would still be expecting a 3rd rounder back though
Yeah, I kind of thought that to start with as well to start with but it sounds like Melbourne is happy enough with the deal as it stands, just waiting for Jack to decide where he'd most like to continue his career...
Obviously has talent to burn but has been cruelled by injuries (never had a full preseason?) so hard to tell what his true value is
I think it has something to do with this navicular injury, it's destroyed him in the past and could explain why Dees are happy to let him go a that price.
Yeah, it would be vinny.
Trengove is obviously at the lowest market value he's been at so far in his career, after being a #2 pick with a great first couple of seasons before having his development ruined by having a club in crisis around him, and then a nasty injury that put him out for the whole season.
Richmond recruiters have obviously looked at the draft and figured there's no outstanding players that will be left by our pick that the club is really after, and so it's worth downgrading that pick and taking the pun on Trengove. Melbourne are looking at a fresh start and probably using that pick to trade for an established player like they did last year.
Could be a good trade for both clubs and a good move for Jack if he feels like he might be able to develop better at a fresh environment
Quote from: Toga on October 13, 2014, 09:11:10 PM
Yeah, it would be vinny.
Trengove is obviously at the lowest market value he's been at so far in his career, after being a #2 pick with a great first couple of seasons before having his development ruined by having a club in crisis around him, and then a nasty injury that put him out for the whole season.
Richmond recruiters have obviously looked at the draft and figured there's no outstanding players that will be left by our pick that the club is really after, and so it's worth downgrading that pick and taking the pun on Trengove. Melbourne are looking at a fresh start and probably using that pick to trade for an established player like they did last year.
Could be a good trade for both clubs and a good move for Jack if he feels like he might be able to develop better at a fresh environment
No pun intended?
(sorry could't help myself ;D )
Lol, clearly meant "worth downgrading that pick and taking the Punt (Rd) on Trengove" ;)
Pun intended 8)
Paige reckons Weller would slot in well at the Tiges, make of that what you will.
Quote from: Toga on October 13, 2014, 09:17:40 PM
Lol, clearly meant "worth downgrading that pick and taking the Punt (Rd) on Trengove" ;)
Pun intended 8)
Hahaha! Nice Toga! ;D
Quote from: Vinny on October 13, 2014, 09:04:34 PM
I think it has something to do with this navicular injury, it's destroyed him in the past and could explain why Dees are happy to let him go a that price.
He definitely lost a lot of pace after his second year which could be explained by the foot injury. Also why I was so keen to see what he could do next year.
Quote from: Nige on October 13, 2014, 09:18:32 PM
Paige reckons Weller would slot in well at the Tiges, make of that what you will.
Have been saying this for months!! :P
But if the pick lands Trengove I'm confident we could pick up a handy midfielder with picks 23 & 31 given the depth of this draft
Quote from: MTTY on October 13, 2014, 09:18:53 PM
Hahaha! Nice Toga! ;D
I do my best ;D
Have heard Conca is also on the table, seems he could be used to lure either Selwood or Shuey back to Victoria.
Quote from: Bully on October 13, 2014, 10:43:03 PM
Have heard Conca is also on the table, seems he could be used to lure either Selwood or Shuey back to Victoria.
I love Conca, but if we could get Selwood or Shuey for him I wouldn't be unhappy.
Quote from: Bully on October 13, 2014, 10:43:03 PM
Have heard Conca is also on the table, seems he could be used to lure either Selwood or Shuey back to Victoria.
Roughly 0% chance of that happening ;)
Yeah I'm not really for the idea of trading Conca for a pick from the Eagles or something, but would love to see Scooter or Shuey in the yellow and black! ;)
Quote from: elephants on October 13, 2014, 11:04:49 PM
Quote from: Bully on October 13, 2014, 10:43:03 PM
Have heard Conca is also on the table, seems he could be used to lure either Selwood or Shuey back to Victoria.
Roughly 0% chance of that happening ;)
Not confident but we are trying, first need to stitch up the Trengove deal before anything can go ahead.
Quote from: elephants on October 13, 2014, 11:04:49 PM
Quote from: Bully on October 13, 2014, 10:43:03 PM
Have heard Conca is also on the table, seems he could be used to lure either Selwood or Shuey back to Victoria.
Roughly 0% chance of that happening ;)
Imagine Shuey in a team where he isn't the first to get tagged
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Quote from: elephants on October 13, 2014, 11:04:49 PM
Quote from: Bully on October 13, 2014, 10:43:03 PM
Have heard Conca is also on the table, seems he could be used to lure either Selwood or Shuey back to Victoria.
Roughly 0% chance of that happening ;)
Imagine Shuey in a team where he isn't the first to get tagged
It'd be flowering amazing and I'd cry, a lot. In fact, this is highly appropriate if I saw Shuey in Y&B.
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BLT re: Trengove
So Trengove failed his medical :'(
Eh, we'll just grab Laverde, Ahern or Weller. ;)
Quote from: JROO8 on October 14, 2014, 10:21:21 AM
So Trengove failed his medical :'(
A bit disappointing but glad it comes out now rather than in a few months time. Think if we can grab Weller with that pick I'll be very happy 8)
Quote from: JROO8 on October 14, 2014, 10:21:21 AM
So Trengove failed his medical :'(
Glad the Tiges did not go head first with that one well done :)
Richmond have re-signed Jake Batchelor, Ricky Petterd, Matt Thomas, Matt Dea, Matt McDonough and Todd Elton.
Happy with all those re-signings. I'm a bit worried about McDonough though, need to start getting some games into him otherwise he might be looking for a trade home at the end of next year..
Also interesting that we've only offered Thomas a rookie spot considering the amount of games he played this year
Should note they're all one year deals except for Batch who signed a 2 year deal.
Taylor Hunt potentially going to end up as a delisted free agent, surely we'd have a look at him. Could be a handy addition.
We don't have any real taggers anymore since Jackson stopped doing jobs a couple of years ago... Grigg and Petterd do the odd run-with roles but probably wouldn't hurt to have a more defensive midfielder in Hunt on the list, he's got a bit of versatility about him as well and is fairly handy in the backline.
Wouldn't be fussed if we didn't go after him, but wouldn't be disappointed if we do get him ;)
Yeah I reckon we'll end up with Hunt. I would rather Whiley over him, but oh well.
Dan Richardson: Blair Hartley and the recruiting team is still working hard but it's unlikely that Richmond will be involved in any trades before today's deadline.
That's a shame. :(
As I just said in the trade thread, happy to back in Francis Jackson and the recruiting team here.
You'd think it means we're also certain to make a big move next year. ;)
Yeah as I've said for a while now, with guys like Greenwood available this year but no move made by the Tiges I think Blair & co must have something up their sleeve for next year's trade season.
Interests will now turn to the national draft, really hoping we jump on Weller if he's available to us
http://www.richmondfc.com.au/news/2014-10-16/richmond-retains-first-round-pick
Happy to hear this.
Sounds like we're definitely looking at somebody like Ahern or Weller.
Obviously no action from us but here's this...
From the Herald Sun's report card:
VERDICT: Well done to the medical staff who kiboshed a Titanic of a trade when they turned down Jack Trengove after a scan on his foot. Informed judges believe they offered pick 12 for David Armitage, and sniffed around Adelaide's Scott Thompson. Club denies both. Now look to the draft to find a pacy midfielder and potentially a clever small forward. Could they have done more to get another hard inside mid? Look at their rivals - Hawthorn and Port all got appreciably better, so they need to extract significant outside from the likes of Conca, Vlastuin, Lennon, Vickery, Griffiths and Co.
Seems a fair analysis... Would have been stoked with Armitage, but wasn't to be obviously.
Still hoping for Weller and a good small forward from later in the draft, and hopefully we go hard at the trade and FA periods next year when there are some bigger names available
Thompson :o
Quote from: JROO8 on October 16, 2014, 07:12:13 PM
Thompson :o
I reacted the same way when I read it.
Don't know how I would have felt about that.
I don't think that one would be true. Only a club in their premiership window (or Essendon :P) would be going after him at his age, Richmond is not there yet and therefore wouldn't be of much use to the club.
so, do you think your Tiges will actually do some (hard) pre-season training this coming period??
Maric's comments just before the 'wins on the trot' were pretty blunt saying the group didn't put in for pre-season 2014 ... ;)
Quote from: j959 on October 17, 2014, 01:33:57 PM
so, do you think your Tiges will actually do some (hard) pre-season training this coming period??
Maric's comments just before the 'wins on the trot' were pretty blunt saying the group didn't put in for pre-season 2014 ... ;)
Simply based on what happened this season, yes.
If we go anywhere close to repeating the atrocity of 3-10, I for one will be more than severely disappointed.
Quote from: Nige on October 17, 2014, 01:37:53 PM
Quote from: j959 on October 17, 2014, 01:33:57 PM
so, do you think your Tiges will actually do some (hard) pre-season training this coming period??
Maric's comments just before the 'wins on the trot' were pretty blunt saying the group didn't put in for pre-season 2014 ... ;)
Simply based on what happened this season, yes.
If we go anywhere close to repeating the atrocity of 3-10, I for one will be more than severely disappointed.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=84zY33QZO5o ;D
Just saw another phantom draft and I reckon it was spot on.
I think we're gonna end up with Liam Duggan now.
I think Collingwood are gonna grab Jayden Laverde which rules him out.
My boy Paul Ahern will probably go before our pick too, I'm thinking to either GWS or Geelong.
Suns have pick 8 and should take the local boy in Lachie Weller. They're the three I'd expect us to look at based on comments made by the club's personnel.
This leaves a few other options and I personally reckon Duggan is the pick of the bunch, as well as the guy we'd most likely take based on the type of player that he is.
I'd be very happy with Trent Cotchin Liam Duggan.
Reminds me exactly like Cotch.
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Teammate of Laverde.
He's a bit like Matt Suckling (has been compared to him on a few occasions), if you watch his highlights or have seen him play, it's easy to see why.
He's an outside player, not the slowest player going around and is a pretty good kick, so he does fit the bill.
I'd hope we could use him in that utility role because he's good enough to do it and do it well.
I think the club is just going to be looking at getting an upgrade on Shaun Grigg to use on the outside. Grigg did alright in the run-with roles he did this season but as a pure wing man he isn't great... Would be happy with any of the boys you mention, still really hope Weller slips to us though!
Quote from: Nige on October 18, 2014, 10:03:19 PM
Teammate of Laverde.
He's a bit like Matt Suckling (has been compared to him on a few occasions), if you watch his highlights or have seen him play, it's easy to see why.
He's an outside player, not the slowest player going around and is a pretty good kick, so he does fit the bill.
I'd hope we could use him in that utility role because he's good enough to do it and do it well.
Pretty good summary, reckon his ceiling would be as a wingman. He's not particularly fast or agile though, he tested very similarly to Lennon so the midfield could be several seasons away. Would be a good replacement for Newman in the meantime.
As for our later picks, the guys I'm keen on are Gore, Neal-Bullen, Menadue, Garlett & Daniel McKenzie. Caleb Daniel is another who I'd be stoked with, reckon he could be the steal of the draft.
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Quote from: Nige on October 18, 2014, 10:03:19 PM
Teammate of Laverde.
He's a bit like Matt Suckling (has been compared to him on a few occasions), if you watch his highlights or have seen him play, it's easy to see why.
He's an outside player, not the slowest player going around and is a pretty good kick, so he does fit the bill.
I'd hope we could use him in that utility role because he's good enough to do it and do it well.
Pretty good summary, reckon his ceiling would be as a wingman. He's not particularly fast or agile though, he tested very similarly to Lennon so the midfield could be several seasons away. Would be a good replacement for Newman in the meantime.
As for our later picks, the guys I'm keen on are Gore, Neal-Bullen, Menadue, Garlett & Daniel McKenzie. Caleb Daniel is another who I'd be stoked with, reckon he could be the steal of the draft.
I'm trying to do a phantom draft to predict who will be left for our second round pick.
I'd be stoked with Gore, Neal-Bullen or Menadue but sadly I think all three
may be gone.
We'd be silly not to look at them if they were around at 33 though.
Menadue will definitely be gone before 33, as for Neal-Bullen and Gore, I'm not sure. My Saints are liking Neal-Bullen so he could be going to the Saints at 21-22. And Menadue has been interview a couple of times from Collingwood and The Bulldogs so he might be gone by then. But Gore should still be there at 33. Would be a handy pick up at 33 actually.
Quote from: Nige on October 20, 2014, 10:07:45 AM
Quote from: Bully on October 19, 2014, 11:24:59 PM
Quote from: Nige on October 18, 2014, 10:03:19 PM
Teammate of Laverde.
He's a bit like Matt Suckling (has been compared to him on a few occasions), if you watch his highlights or have seen him play, it's easy to see why.
He's an outside player, not the slowest player going around and is a pretty good kick, so he does fit the bill.
I'd hope we could use him in that utility role because he's good enough to do it and do it well.
Pretty good summary, reckon his ceiling would be as a wingman. He's not particularly fast or agile though, he tested very similarly to Lennon so the midfield could be several seasons away. Would be a good replacement for Newman in the meantime.
As for our later picks, the guys I'm keen on are Gore, Neal-Bullen, Menadue, Garlett & Daniel McKenzie. Caleb Daniel is another who I'd be stoked with, reckon he could be the steal of the draft.
I'm trying to do a phantom draft to predict who will be left for our second round pick.
I'd be stoked with Gore, Neal-Bullen or Menadue but sadly I think all three may be gone.
We'd be silly not to look at them if they were around at 33 though.
Yes, all 3 could be gone but don't rule out Daniel McKenzie for our second. The guy is a jet and quite possibly the best raw athlete in this years crop. His TAC finals form was outstanding, he just seems to be improving with every match.
Wouldn't be surprised if we go De Goey & McKenzie, then hopefully Caleb Daniel with our third.
Quote from: Pkbaldy on October 20, 2014, 11:55:59 AM
Menadue will definitely be gone before 33, as for Neal-Bullen and Gore, I'm not sure. My Saints are liking Neal-Bullen so he could be going to the Saints at 21-22. And Menadue has been interview a couple of times from Collingwood and The Bulldogs so he might be gone by then. But Gore should still be there at 33. Would be a handy pick up at 33 actually.
Neal-Bullen just looks like a footballer to me, super impressed with his inside credentials & he has stepped up to the plate at SANFL level. His sprint times were below average but his tank is huge & he has above average agility. Definitely one who will make an impression next year. The Saints are also heavily into Caleb Daniel, if you manage to get both you have done exceedingly well, combine that with Petracca and it's a royal flush.
Quote from: Bully on October 20, 2014, 01:07:05 PM
Quote from: Pkbaldy on October 20, 2014, 11:55:59 AM
Menadue will definitely be gone before 33, as for Neal-Bullen and Gore, I'm not sure. My Saints are liking Neal-Bullen so he could be going to the Saints at 21-22. And Menadue has been interview a couple of times from Collingwood and The Bulldogs so he might be gone by then. But Gore should still be there at 33. Would be a handy pick up at 33 actually.
Neal-Bullen just looks like a footballer to me, super impressed with his inside credentials & he has stepped up to the plate at SANFL level. His sprint times were below average but his tank is huge & he has above average agility. Definitely one who will make an impression next year. The Saints are also heavily into Caleb Daniel, if you manage to get both you have done exceedingly well, combine that with Petracca and it's a royal flush.
I hope we get Petracca, McKenzie, Neal-Bullen and Daniel. Would be the quadrella for me.
With Richmond though, I think they're in dire need of another tall... Vickery isn't working out how they hoped, so they might make an early attack at Goddard or even McKenzie as their first pick. But it'll be super frustrating for them to go past Duggan, he would fit perfectly into that team. Neal-Bullen looks so much like a young Dane Swan, it's going to be good watching him mold into a star player, but he won't be there for Richmonds 2nd pick. I think Gore or Bampton would be good choices, both would add the extra grunt that they need.
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Quote from: Bully on October 20, 2014, 01:07:05 PM
Quote from: Pkbaldy on October 20, 2014, 11:55:59 AM
Menadue will definitely be gone before 33, as for Neal-Bullen and Gore, I'm not sure. My Saints are liking Neal-Bullen so he could be going to the Saints at 21-22. And Menadue has been interview a couple of times from Collingwood and The Bulldogs so he might be gone by then. But Gore should still be there at 33. Would be a handy pick up at 33 actually.
Neal-Bullen just looks like a footballer to me, super impressed with his inside credentials & he has stepped up to the plate at SANFL level. His sprint times were below average but his tank is huge & he has above average agility. Definitely one who will make an impression next year. The Saints are also heavily into Caleb Daniel, if you manage to get both you have done exceedingly well, combine that with Petracca and it's a royal flush.
I hope we get Petracca, McKenzie, Neal-Bullen and Daniel. Would be the quadrella for me.
With Richmond though, I think they're in dire need of another tall... Vickery isn't working out how they hoped, so they might make an early attack at Goddard or even McKenzie as their first pick. But it'll be super frustrating for them to go past Duggan, he would fit perfectly into that team. Neal-Bullen looks so much like a young Dane Swan, it's going to be good watching him mold into a star player, but he won't be there for Richmonds 2nd pick. I think Gore or Bampton would be good choices, both would add the extra grunt that they need.
Don't think there's any chance we'll pick up Goddard to be honest, we still have Elton developing as a key back and Vickery is doing just fine. His form prior to decking Cox was solid, he was averaging a touch under 2 goals a match which is all one could expect. He also provides good ruck cover. We also have Griffiths who looks to be an excellent prospect so talls aren't the issue.
Much prefer Gore over Bampton, the latter is not quick and could be found out at the highest level. Would be ok spending a third rounder but not a 2nd. Gore blitzed at the combine, for a human wrecking ball he is really quick, ran a 2.94sec/20m and did well with the jumping, not to mention a perfect score for the kicking. He ran 13.3 beep so a bit of work to be done with the tank, very similar to Vlastuin on that front.
Well the recruiting team have said they'll target mids which is good to hear.
Yeah I don't think we will be looking at a tall with our first pick, think you can lock in one of the wingers that have been mentioned in this thread since day one (Laverde, Ahern, Weller, Duggan), and it'll come down to best available out of these boys.
Think a small forward will also be something the club will look at, not sure where in the draft we might get one though, maybe around the 3rd round.
Just read this: http://www.richmondfc.com.au/news/2014-10-20/how-the-tigers-plan-for-the-draft
Apparently we're gonna use five picks.
The team's been planning it all out and seems to know the types they're after, here's hoping they nail the selections.
5 picks in the ND means we will be filling up our list through that avenue and not delisted FA's then. Happy enough with that
Quote from: Toga on October 20, 2014, 06:41:32 PM
5 picks in the ND means we will be filling up our list through that avenue and not delisted FA's then. Happy enough with that
Yeah, I went and checked after reading the article and that seems to be what's going to happen.
There's also an article out today saying the club is keen to sign Cotch and Tross before the 2015 season starts. Hopefully it happens because I don't think I could handle hearing the 'putting off contract talks' thing when it comes to two of our most important players.
Quote from: Nige on October 20, 2014, 06:45:22 PM
Quote from: Toga on October 20, 2014, 06:41:32 PM
5 picks in the ND means we will be filling up our list through that avenue and not delisted FA's then. Happy enough with that
Yeah, I went and checked after reading the article and that seems to be what's going to happen.
Wouldn't mind Taylor Hunt to be honest.
Quote from: Bully on October 20, 2014, 07:29:19 PM
Quote from: Nige on October 20, 2014, 06:45:22 PM
Quote from: Toga on October 20, 2014, 06:41:32 PM
5 picks in the ND means we will be filling up our list through that avenue and not delisted FA's then. Happy enough with that
Yeah, I went and checked after reading the article and that seems to be what's going to happen.
Wouldn't mind Taylor Hunt to be honest.
Same here, but I'm not opposed to filling the spots via the draft either.
Maybe they'll have a change of heart.
How many upgrades have we got to do, just Miles?
Quote from: Nige on October 20, 2014, 07:30:33 PM
Quote from: Bully on October 20, 2014, 07:29:19 PM
Quote from: Nige on October 20, 2014, 06:45:22 PM
Quote from: Toga on October 20, 2014, 06:41:32 PM
5 picks in the ND means we will be filling up our list through that avenue and not delisted FA's then. Happy enough with that
Yeah, I went and checked after reading the article and that seems to be what's going to happen.
Wouldn't mind Taylor Hunt to be honest.
Same here, but I'm not opposed to filling the spots via the draft either.
Maybe they'll have a change of heart.
How many upgrades have we got to do, just Miles?
Yeah I wouldn't mind Hunt, too.
Yeah just Miles, Thomas staying on the rookie lost for now.
flower yes
http://www.theage.com.au/afl/afl-news/richmond-to-play-14-home-and-away-games-at-mcg-in-2015-20141023-11at1h.html
Richmond to play 14 home and away games at MCG in 2015
Also from that article:
expected to play Carlton, Collingwood and Essendon twice in 2015
host the Western Bulldogs in round two
Richmond and Melbourne also appear to have been successful in their joint push to play each other on the eve of Anzac Day
just one trip to Perth which is expected to take place against Fremantle
Looks favourable...
Home game vs North... at Etihad. :o
Cal Twomey posted an article on the AFL site (it's in the U18 Draft thread if you wanna look at the whole thing). It's about who each club might take with their first, he are his thoughts for us:
RICHMOND
Pick 12: The Tigers are in a nice spot of the draft to wait and see what gets through. Corey Ellis, a smooth moving and smart left-footer, could be the player to land at Richmond. Although recovering from a foot injury, Ellis is low-risk and sees the game unfold well from half-back, the wing or a ball-winning midfield role. If Sam Durdin is available he might be hard to pass up as an athletic tall.
Around the mark: Sam Durdin, Lachie Weller, Liam Duggan
I'd be surprised to see us take Durdin, but Ellis, Weller and Duggan are definitely possibilities.
Poor selection, Weller, Duggan & Durdin have it all over Ellis. To me Ellis is a second rounder, I would be very disappointed if we went the 'safe' route.
Quote from: Bully on October 25, 2014, 07:39:22 PM
Poor selection, Weller, Duggan & Durdin have it all over Ellis. To me Ellis is a second rounder, I would be very disappointed if we went the 'safe' route.
He is right in that we are in a nice spot to take anybody that 'slips' through.
Quote from: Nige on October 25, 2014, 08:15:28 PM
Quote from: Bully on October 25, 2014, 07:39:22 PM
Poor selection, Weller, Duggan & Durdin have it all over Ellis. To me Ellis is a second rounder, I would be very disappointed if we went the 'safe' route.
He is right in that we are in a nice spot to take anybody that 'slips' through.
I wouldn't be disappointed with Weller, didn't think it possible but if GC pass then we might be in luck.
Quote from: Bully on October 25, 2014, 09:01:21 PM
Quote from: Nige on October 25, 2014, 08:15:28 PM
Quote from: Bully on October 25, 2014, 07:39:22 PM
Poor selection, Weller, Duggan & Durdin have it all over Ellis. To me Ellis is a second rounder, I would be very disappointed if we went the 'safe' route.
He is right in that we are in a nice spot to take anybody that 'slips' through.
I wouldn't be disappointed with Weller, didn't think it possible but if GC pass then we might be in luck.
Weller is almost certainly who we'll take if he gets to our pick imo.
Quote from: Nige on October 25, 2014, 08:15:28 PM
He is right in that we are in a nice spot to take anybody that 'slips' through.
Exactly. Just like we were last year with Lennon
Quote from: Bully on October 25, 2014, 09:01:21 PM
I wouldn't be disappointed with Weller, didn't think it possible but if GC pass then we might be in luck.
I would be more than happy with Weller, in fact that's who I am hoping we get still! 8)
Who would you guys like us to pick up from the delisted free agent pool?
Robbo?
Quote from: Kellogscrunchynut on October 26, 2014, 06:36:32 PM
Who would you guys like us to pick up from the delisted free agent pool?
Robbo?
Taylor Hunt is the main one.
We could take the punt on Robbo, but I wouldn't expect us to do so.
Honestly can't see us looking at too many others.
I'm wondering whether the club may consider Ben Newton though since it was said they're after mids in the draft.
I'm assuming Newton ignored the contract because another club said they'd offer better, I guess that depends on whether it was Richmond or not
Don't know how I'd feel about this.
I can't stand Robbo don't really rate him, but we could do with another big body, tough inside mid.
http://www.foxsports.com.au/afl/afl-premiership/richmond-considers-dumped-carlton-midfielder-mitch-robinson-as-a-delisted-free-agent/story-e6frf3e3-1227103999742
I would be all for taking him as a DFA or on the rookie list. Think he has a bit to add and is capable in the middle or up forward - a good replacement as a big bodied mid for Shane Tuck who we have missed a lot since he retired
Yeah, would be an upgrade on Matt Thomas and wouldn't cost anything, so I'm not completely against it.
I'm not against it either, but if he flowers up even once... he's gotta go.
But yeah, he's got something to offer and I think he is worth the punt.
Yeah, I agree with you guys. It's not the worst move in the world, but we gotta make sure we keep him in line.
Think this a good move by the Tiges he is only 25 I think , very hard at it and he is not to smart but even he must realize this would be his last chance plus he comes with no injury baggage would be a big win plus keeping our picks intact , he would add some grunt around the ball can kick a goal and if he gets rubbed out a couple of times so be it :)
He's meeting with the club today. Think he could be a really good get for you boys
The more I think about it the more I am wanting the club to pick him up.
Shane Tuck's importance as a hard nut bigger bodied mid was really underrated and think he was a huge part in Cotchin's standout 2012 season as Tuck was able to put blocks on and throw his body around a bit... Besides Ivan, not many of our onballers have really been able to do this to the same extent as Tucky.
Yeah, he's had off-field problems but if being thrown on the scrapheap hasn't given him a kick up the ass then what will. Deserves to be given a shot, here's hoping the interview goes well today :)
Honestly, I'd pass up Taylor Hunt to get Robbo instead. The guy has great talent and is actually a really good player on his day, if we can straighten him out in regards to his off-field issues, at his age, we could be making a really solid investment.
:o :-\ :-\
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lol lets be honest... Mitch Robbo isn't going to look good in any jumper
Quote from: Ricochet on October 28, 2014, 11:25:14 AM
lol lets be honest... Mitch Robbo isn't going to look good in any jumper
Hahahah, yep gotta agree with you there.
Robbo has not done that much wrong got in a fight at a concert when he was younger and went out with Garlett and got punched in the face the worst thing he did was lie about it and on a positive note it will be someone for Dusty to go out on the piss with :P
Quote from: Ricochet on October 28, 2014, 11:25:14 AM
lol lets be honest... Mitch Robbo isn't going to look good in any jumper
I'll give you that haha.
If that's how bad he's looking in a Tigers one (which looks good on most), can you imagine how terrible he'd look in a host of other jumpers?
Quote from: JROO8 on October 28, 2014, 11:27:07 AM
Quote from: Ricochet on October 28, 2014, 11:25:14 AM
lol lets be honest... Mitch Robbo isn't going to look good in any jumper
Hahahah, yep gotta agree with you there.
prison clothes?
Quote from: shaker on October 28, 2014, 11:31:21 AM
Robbo has not done that much wrong got in a fight at a concert when he was younger and went out with Garlett and got punched in the face the worst thing he did was lie about and on a positive note it will be someone for Dusty to go out on the piss with :P
Quote from: Ricochet on October 28, 2014, 11:25:14 AM
lol lets be honest... Mitch Robbo isn't going to look good in any jumper
Bang on the money.
We play the Dogs, Port and North in the NAB Cup (Challenge?). Thoughts?
Give McBean a run against some quality defenders.
Two tough matches that's good but some teams take it more seriously than others so we will see who they field same with the Tiges
Any news from this morning regarding Robbo?
Meh
@SammyHeraldSun: Ex @CarltonFC Mitch Robinson to play for @brisbanelions next yr. Chose Lions (2yr deal) over @Richmond_FC (1yr deal). http://t.co/8mKijuX5EK
flower
Quote from: nrich102 on October 28, 2014, 09:03:58 PM
flower
Not remotely interested in Robinson, Taylor Hunt on the other hand is precisely what we need.
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Not remotely interested in Robinson, Taylor Hunt on the other hand is precisely what we need.
He's a Lions supporter :P
But, yes I don't mind THunt
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Quote from: nrich102 on October 28, 2014, 09:03:58 PM
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Not remotely interested in Robinson, Taylor Hunt on the other hand is precisely what we need.
He's a Lions supporter :P
But, yes I don't mind THunt
His family is Richmond and I believe he had Chris Naish's number plastered on his face as a 6 year old.
Quote from: Bully on October 28, 2014, 09:59:37 PM
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Quote from: nrich102 on October 28, 2014, 09:03:58 PM
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Not remotely interested in Robinson, Taylor Hunt on the other hand is precisely what we need.
He's a Lions supporter :P
But, yes I don't mind THunt
His family is Richmond and I believe he had Chris Naish's number plastered on his face as a 6 year old.
Wat?
Still reckon Robbo has a lot to give tbh. Just needs his head pulled in.
http://www.foxsports.com.au/afl/afl-premiership/taylor-hunt-looking-to-restart-his-afl-career-at-richmond-after-being-delisted-by-geelong/story-e6frf3e3-1227105150291
Boom!
Basically, both us and the Lions were interested in T-Hunt and Robbo. It seems as though whoever picked up one guy would leave the other guy to the other team.
Hunt grew up a Tiges fan and so I think he'd be more than happy to join us and he's pretty much what we need. I think it's a win-win situation.
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2014-10-28/ty-tipped-for-big-year
I hope this is the case, I really do.
I like all three boys and think the 22 is definitely a whole lot better with them in it.
Also, here's an article on Lachie Weller as part of the AFL's countdown to the draft.
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2014-10-29/meet-lachie-weller
Quote from: Nige on October 28, 2014, 10:59:34 PM
http://www.foxsports.com.au/afl/afl-premiership/taylor-hunt-looking-to-restart-his-afl-career-at-richmond-after-being-delisted-by-geelong/story-e6frf3e3-1227105150291
Boom!
Basically, both us and the Lions were interested in T-Hunt and Robbo. It seems as though whoever picked up one guy would leave the other guy to the other team.
Hunt grew up a Tiges fan and so I think he'd be more than happy to join us and he's pretty much what we need. I think it's a win-win situation.
;D
Quote from: Nige on October 29, 2014, 09:17:43 AM
Also, here's an article on Lachie Weller as part of the AFL's countdown to the draft.
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2014-10-29/meet-lachie-weller
You shouldn't even think about getting him ;) If he slides to 12 it'll be a miracle for you guys.
Can't see Hampson getting a game unless Vickery , Griffiths or Maric are injured to be honest I think I would rather McBean get a run as he has shown to be a goalkicker and Hampson seems to be a bit one dimensional only being a good tap ruckman.
Quote from: shaker on October 29, 2014, 11:41:56 AM
Can't see Hampson getting a game unless Vickery , Griffiths or Maric are injured to be honest I think I would rather McBean get a run as he has shown to be a goalkicker and Hampson seems to be a bit one dimensional only being a good tap ruckman.
Hampson is insurance in case Ivan goes down like the first half of the year.
We don't have Orren anymore, so a young-ish ruck who is ready to play is probably a good move.
Quote from: Nige on October 29, 2014, 12:04:44 PM
Quote from: shaker on October 29, 2014, 11:41:56 AM
Can't see Hampson getting a game unless Vickery , Griffiths or Maric are injured to be honest I think I would rather McBean get a run as he has shown to be a goalkicker and Hampson seems to be a bit one dimensional only being a good tap ruckman.
Hampson is insurance in case Ivan goes down like the first half of the year.
We don't have Orren anymore, so a young-ish ruck who is ready to play is probably a good move.
Exactly that's what he is backup for Maric he would have to improve the rest of his game to force out Vickery or Griffiths can't see them playing all four and what is happening with McBean ? do you know if has beefed up any or is he still a twig
Quote from: shaker on October 29, 2014, 12:14:15 PM
Quote from: Nige on October 29, 2014, 12:04:44 PM
Quote from: shaker on October 29, 2014, 11:41:56 AM
Can't see Hampson getting a game unless Vickery , Griffiths or Maric are injured to be honest I think I would rather McBean get a run as he has shown to be a goalkicker and Hampson seems to be a bit one dimensional only being a good tap ruckman.
Hampson is insurance in case Ivan goes down like the first half of the year.
We don't have Orren anymore, so a young-ish ruck who is ready to play is probably a good move.
Exactly that's what he is backup for Maric he would have to improve the rest of his game to force out Vickery or Griffiths can't see them playing all four and what is happening with McBean ? do you know if has beefed up any or is he still a twig
This pre-season should be good for McBean, he'll get a run in the NAB games and hopefully can debut early.
WCE will also be meeting with Hunt later this week.
Quote from: Ricochet on October 29, 2014, 12:48:56 PM
WCE will also be meeting with Hunt later this week.
I still think we're a better chance at getting him.
Quote from: Nige on October 29, 2014, 12:58:51 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on October 29, 2014, 12:48:56 PM
WCE will also be meeting with Hunt later this week.
I still think we're a better chance at getting him.
Yep, massive Tigers fan growing up and you'd think he would want to stay in Vic.
Quote from: Ricochet on October 29, 2014, 12:48:56 PM
WCE will also be meeting with Hunt later this week.
My post from the WCE board:
Quote from: elephants on October 29, 2014, 01:13:21 PM
Very interested. Need to boost our midfield stocks and the kid can run through as a rebounding defender. Played a lot of his junior career as a halfback/wingman.
He also took his mum to Bali for his end of season trip = ripping bloke.
Still think he'll end up at the Tigers but its good to know we're interested.
Wouldn't be against picking up Robbo or Hunt, both have some good footy to add to the team.
Quote from: Toga on October 29, 2014, 01:22:18 PM
Wouldn't be against picking up Robbo or Hunt, both have some good footy to add to the team.
Looks like Robbo will be off to the Lions, as they've tabled a much better offer than us.
Quote from: JROO8 on October 29, 2014, 01:23:03 PM
Quote from: Toga on October 29, 2014, 01:22:18 PM
Wouldn't be against picking up Robbo or Hunt, both have some good footy to add to the team.
Looks like Robbo will be off to the Lions, as they've tabled a much better offer than us.
2 years compared to a one year deal from you guys got Brisbane over the line. An extra years job security would mean a lot to him.
Quote from: Grazz on October 29, 2014, 01:29:45 PM
Quote from: JROO8 on October 29, 2014, 01:23:03 PM
Quote from: Toga on October 29, 2014, 01:22:18 PM
Wouldn't be against picking up Robbo or Hunt, both have some good footy to add to the team.
Looks like Robbo will be off to the Lions, as they've tabled a much better offer than us.
2 years compared to a one year deal from you guys got Brisbane over the line. An extra years job security would mean a lot to him.
Especially with his clearly impaired 'decision making' area of his brain :P
Quote from: elephants on October 29, 2014, 01:34:30 PM
Quote from: Grazz on October 29, 2014, 01:29:45 PM
Quote from: JROO8 on October 29, 2014, 01:23:03 PM
Quote from: Toga on October 29, 2014, 01:22:18 PM
Wouldn't be against picking up Robbo or Hunt, both have some good footy to add to the team.
Looks like Robbo will be off to the Lions, as they've tabled a much better offer than us.
2 years compared to a one year deal from you guys got Brisbane over the line. An extra years job security would mean a lot to him.
Especially with his clearly impaired 'decision making' area of his brain :P
Yeh he's not the sharpest tool in the shed but a change of environment could be just the ticket for him to settle. I wouldn't of objected to loudly if the Crows had a crack at him. I think in the the right team he has a bit to offer them still.
The fixture is out!
Here's what we have: http://www.richmondfc.com.au/season/fixtures-and-results
Round 1 Thursday, April 02
CARL v RICH
Carlton Richmond
MCG 7:20pm A
Round 2 Saturday, April 11
RICH v WB
Richmond Western Bulldogs
MCG 1:45pm H
Round 3 Saturday, April 18
BL v RICH
Brisbane Lions Richmond
GAB 7:20pm A
Round 4 Friday, April 24
RICH v MELB
Richmond Melbourne
MCG 7:50pm H
Round 5 Saturday, May 02
RICH v GEEL
Richmond Geelong Cats
MCG 1:45pm H
Round 6 Saturday, May 09
NMFC v RICH
North Melbourne Richmond
BA 1:45pm A
Round 7 Sunday, May 17
RICH v COLL
Richmond Collingwood
MCG 3:20pm H
Round 8 Sunday, May 24
PORT v RICH
Port Adelaide Richmond
AO 4:10pm A
Round 9 Saturday, May 30
RICH v ESS
Richmond Essendon
MCG 7:20pm H
Round 10 Friday, June 05
FRE v RICH
Fremantle Richmond
PS 6:10pm A
Round 11 BYE
Round 12 Friday, June 19
RICH v WCE
Richmond West Coast Eagles
MCG 7:50pm H
Round 13 Friday, June 26
SYD v RICH
Sydney Swans Richmond
SCG 7:50pm A
Round 14 Saturday, July 04
RICH v GWS
Richmond GWS Giants
MCG 1:40pm H
Round 15 Friday, July 10
RICH v CARL
Richmond Carlton
MCG 7:50pm H
Round 16 Sunday, July 19
STK v RICH
St Kilda Richmond
ES 4:40pm A
Round 17 Saturday, July 25
RICH v FRE
Richmond Fremantle
MCG 4:35pm H
Round 18 Friday, July 31
HAW v RICH
Hawthorn Richmond
MCG 7:50pm A
Round 19 Friday, August 07
ADEL v RICH
Adelaide Crows Richmond
AO 7:20pm A
Round 20 Sunday, August 16
RICH v GCFC
Richmond Gold Coast Suns
MCG 1:10pm H
Round 21 Saturday, August 22
COLL v RICH
Collingwood Richmond
MCG 1:45pm A
Round 22 Saturday, August 29
ESS v RICH
Essendon Richmond
MCG 7:20pm A
Round 23 Friday, September 04
RICH v NMFC
Richmond North Melbourne
ES 12:00am H
Sorry for the ordinary layout, copied it straight from the link. Will try to find one with a better layout.
Wanna go on a mini holiday in round 3 Nige?
Quote from: GoLions on October 30, 2014, 03:11:57 PM
Wanna go on a mini holiday in round 3 Nige?
Funds permitting, I'm all for it. :D
We should get off to a better start than this year with a very good first 4 rounds :P
Quote from: shaker on October 30, 2014, 03:20:43 PM
We should get off to a better start than this year with a very good first 4 rounds :P
Our last seven games could be tricky, but after this season I'm not worried. :P
Quote from: shaker on October 30, 2014, 03:20:43 PM
We should get off to a better start than this year with a very good first 4 rounds :P
You had a soft start this year as well ;)
Just had a proper look and have got us losing about 7 or 8 games, with a few of them being 50-50.
We should make finals and I reckon based on the draw and stuff but without looking at other draws, I think about 6th is where we'll finish.
First month looks good, hopefully the boys can have a good start and take form into the rest of the season :)
Quote from: Ricochet on October 30, 2014, 03:35:38 PM
Quote from: shaker on October 30, 2014, 03:20:43 PM
We should get off to a better start than this year with a very good first 4 rounds :P
You had a soft start this year as well ;)
Yes but I don't think we will play as poorly as we did at the start of this year , surely they learned some lessons from that ;)
Quote from: shaker on October 30, 2014, 04:01:38 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on October 30, 2014, 03:35:38 PM
Quote from: shaker on October 30, 2014, 03:20:43 PM
We should get off to a better start than this year with a very good first 4 rounds :P
You had a soft start this year as well ;)
Yes but I don't think we will play as poorly as we did at the start of this year , surely they learned some lessons from that ;)
Yeh neither do I mate :)
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We better be 4-0, or at the worst 3-1, or we'll be in big trouble.
Quote from: JROO8 on October 31, 2014, 12:50:15 PM
We better be 4-0, or at the worst 3-1, or we'll be in big trouble.
I've got us 6-4 up until the bye. Losses to Freo, Port, North (can't believe I'm saying that) and one of Geelong/Essendon.
We should win the first month, beat the Pies and hopefully beat of Geelong/Essendon.
You have not factored in a loss to Brisbane at the Gabba.
Or Game 1 where you'll be up by 40 points and then lose by 30 in another historic Carlton win. ;)
Nahas delisted.
Maybe he's coming back to us? :P
On paper it looks like a soft opening, but this is Richmond we're talking about. Carlton always seem to find a few extra gears against us, the Dogs shocked us last year, Collingwood always beat us and Brisbane have recruited well. I'm not saying we'll be 0-4 or anything like that, but I wouldn't be surprised if we lost at least one of those games.
Quote from: JROO8 on October 31, 2014, 01:28:18 PM
Nahas delisted.
Maybe he's coming back to us? :P
I'd rather Tambling, Krakouer or Rodan. :-*
Hopefully Hammer has a big preseason. Good to see him working on his fitness.
Just needs to improve his marking. If he can provide something around the ground, he would be best 22.
http://m.afl.com.au/news/2014-10-31/tiger-hampson-admits-offfield-challenges-hurt-his-output
Quote from: Nige on October 31, 2014, 02:20:17 PM
Quote from: JROO8 on October 31, 2014, 01:28:18 PM
Nahas delisted.
Maybe he's coming back to us? :P
I'd rather Tambling, Krakouer or Rodan. :-*
Haha, wouldn't mind either of them back ;)
Especially my boy Tambling. Still hoping he makes a comeback some day and that he'll be better than Buddy :-\
Quote from: JROO8 on October 31, 2014, 02:22:18 PM
Quote from: Nige on October 31, 2014, 02:20:17 PM
Quote from: JROO8 on October 31, 2014, 01:28:18 PM
Nahas delisted.
Maybe he's coming back to us? :P
I'd rather Tambling, Krakouer or Rodan. :-*
Haha, wouldn't mind either of them back ;)
Especially my boy Tambling. Still hoping he makes a comeback some day and that he'll be better than Buddy :-\
He is better than Buddy, that's why he got drafted before him.
http://www.theage.com.au/afl/afl-news/taylor-hunt-to-find-new-home-at-richmond-20141031-11fa0j.html?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter
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Cool :)
I attempted to photoshop him into a Richmond jumper but failed. :P
Quote from: Nige on October 31, 2014, 11:32:49 PM
I attempted to photoshop him into a Richmond jumper but failed. :P
Couldn't find a jumper big enough?
Quote from: Mr.Craig on November 01, 2014, 12:41:06 AM
Quote from: Nige on October 31, 2014, 11:32:49 PM
I attempted to photoshop him into a Richmond jumper but failed. :P
Couldn't find a jumper big enough?
Are you thinking of Josh Hunt?
(http://i62.tinypic.com/2ykdnkm.png)
Taylor Hunt's manager has confirmed he will be at Punt Rd next year :)
Looks gr8 m8! 8)
Finally, some action! :D
THUNT, welcome to the club 8)
Quote from: Nige on October 30, 2014, 06:34:43 PM
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Back to where we belong. 9th?
Official, THunt is a Tiger 8)
http://www.richmondfc.com.au/news/2014-11-02/tigers-complete-hunt
How do you guys think he'll fit in? I reckon he replaces Jacko in our best 22. Can also play of a HBF, so I reckon he should play regularly next year.
He'll be best 22.
He's on a one-year deal, so he'll be given every chance to cement his spot and get a contract extension.
Yeah, I think he'll slot right in. Glad we wrapped up the deal though. I love progress!
Who does he replace though guys?
Seems like he could be a replacement for Newman who should retire at the end of the year, or does he come in earlier in place of Grigg?
Quote from: Toga on November 02, 2014, 07:35:41 PM
Who does he replace though guys?
Seems like he could be a replacement for Newman who should retire at the end of the year, or does he come in earlier in place of Grigg?
Both I'd say.
Dan Jackson was best 22 and did the run with role, that would be T-Hunt's best role imo. Does it a lot more effectively than Grigg.
Also, there's a question on Reddit asking which one player from the club we would clone if we could to benefit the team in some way.
I reckon having Dustin Martin x2 would be great.
last thing we wanted is Tigers to have a tagger >:( ::)
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2014-11-04/meet-liam-duggan
Let's hope he slips through to our pick.
Quote from: Chelskiman on November 04, 2014, 07:22:00 PM
Let's hope he slips through to our pick.
They say he's a top 10 chance, which he probably is, but as far as 'slipping' to our pick is concerned, I don't think it would be slipping. It would be about where I'd expect him to go, just outside the top 10 (unless a team inside the top 10 really fancies him) and no further than about 15.
I meant more in terms of let's hope he's still an option for us when it gets to our pick.
Quote from: Chelskiman on November 04, 2014, 07:49:19 PM
I meant more in terms of let's hope he's still an option for us when it gets to our pick.
Oh yeah, he certainly will be if he's there.
I'd still prefer Ahern or Weller, but I'd say the chances of them getting picked outside of the top 10 is very slim.
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2014-11-05/tiger-free-for-all
Exactly what I (we?) wanted to hear.
Awesome. Really hoping we make some big plays next year.
The tiges really need to put themselves in a desired position if they want to lure any free agents. A lot of clubs will be after Dangerfield and Cameron and based on the Tiges recruiting record from 2000-present I think they would be at the bottom of the order. Hardwick has done a fantastic job as coach. However, the only way I can see free agent guns picking Richmond over the more desired clubs (not necessarily better clubs though) is if Richmond can make the top four. I think they can do it, fantastic team, obviously (as at 2014) not ready to make an impact in the finals however they showed us this year that they are a finals team (incredible run home - I think everyone but the supporters doubted them). If they make the top 4, I can see Cameron a Victorian signing (as long as he isn't put off by Jroo taking the main role - I don't think we would be) or strongly considering the club. I think at this rate though players like Dangerfield would prefer a 17th place Demon's team than an 8th placed Tigers (more money) and I've heard Port will be targeting Dangerfield (not sure how that wouldn't breach our salary cap though if we vaunted him and Boak (both $700k salaries and Dangerfield would require a pay raise) and Tex Walker (however, these are only rumours atm with the most probability being targeting Tex). Richmond will need to convince free agents that they are worth spending the time with, have a bright future in the AFL (I believe players should already hold this opinion), and probably the most difficult task of establishing that they are the 'it' team in Melbourne (Collingwood - not matter how bad, Hawthorne and many other Victorian clubs will be targeting these players, in fact most clubs will, therefore, this is the most important aspect of luring in-demand players. Richmond lacks the appeal and they will really need to prove otherwise and build upon what they had at the end of the 2013 season if they want any chance of signing a high profile free agent). In summary, I think Richmond can finish in the top 4, the question is will they. This year is very important because if they don't I honestly can't see why any high-profile free agent would even consider the club to begin with (and they would have to settle for free agents at the worse end of the spectrum). This could be the Tiges most important season of the last 15 years, as their chief recruiter stated "the Tigers want to be in a position to lure these players to their club", they are going to have to provide some reason why these players should pick Richmond over the other 17 teams.
On a personal note, I really admire the Tigers and hope they've resigned Cotchin. I would hate it if he, by some fanciful chance, left to a club I hated - i.e. Collingwood (would hate Essendon too but they are too pathetic a team to think about haha)
I don't no where all this came from (not you, the article on the AFL website). All Dan Richardson said was
"Like all clubs, we are looking to have salary cap room to do what we need to improve our list," he said.
"It is fair to say we're setting ourselves up from that point of time."
Npw apparently we're after every player out of contract next year, haha.
Tbh, I don't think it's a big deal. It's unlikely we're going to get any of those guns when every club are after them. Obviously I'd love them both to come across, but it's much more likely we target someone who isn't such a big name such as a Shiel or Tomlinson for example.
But yes I agree with you, we'd need to perform on the field if we're any chance of getting a big name. I'm just saying it's not really a big deal if we don't get a gun across, it's pretty unlikely anyway.
IMO, we need to re-sign Cotch, Dusty and Rance before we can think about free-agency.
Quote from: JROO8 on November 06, 2014, 02:15:55 PM
I don't no where all this came from (not you, the article on the AFL website). All Dan Richardson said was
"Like all clubs, we are looking to have salary cap room to do what we need to improve our list," he said.
"It is fair to say we're setting ourselves up from that point of time."
Npw apparently we're after every player out of contract next year, haha.
Tbh, I don't think it's a big deal. It's unlikely we're going to get any of those guns when every club are after them. Obviously I'd love them both to come across, but it's much more likely we target someone who isn't such a big name such as a Shiel or Tomlinson for example.
But yes I agree with you, we'd need to perform on the field if we're any chance of getting a big name. I'm just saying it's not really a big deal if we don't get a gun across, it's pretty unlikely anyway.
IMO, we need to re-sign Cotch, Dusty and Rance before we can think about free-agency.
I'd rate two of those players higher than Dangerfield ;) & Rance is a gun full back
Yeah they need to deal with other issues first and I don't see why recruiting should be a big deal anyway. They have one of the best lists in the afl in terms of talent/prospective talent and besides Miles & Petterd (to an extent) recruiting from other clubs hasn't worked for them anyway. What I think is so good about the Tigers is their players are loyal, that's what will make them a strong team, they either are given a second chance or are recruited at the draft and obviously the club culture sees them form an attachment to the club, so strong that they are willing to put their bodies on the line (even in situations are reckless as a Jono Brown set-up) in the name of the team. I don't think fans should really care, whether or not they recruit, they have a fantastic list as is, they just need to work on consistency and they'll be a top 4 side. Shiel & Tomlinson would be great pick ups for the Tigers though, they already have the midfield depth but Shiel could be a nice inclusion to the interchange, or a half-forward flanker bombing it from 60m out. Tomlinson could make a great swing-man - something the Tigers really need. That would actually be my main concern, Cameron could serve as a centre-half forward and a development prospect, but do they really need him when they have a dual coleman medalist (who won when they were a bottom team I might add to make the feat more impressive) and their midfield depth is fantastic, bringing Danger in would just mean throwing some young talent out. It would improve the team, no doubt, but is it really necessary when their are more important roles to fill. I have to agree, I think Tomlinson would be the best target, a swingman is all they are missing (their EF against Port really showed that when they had to resort to Chaplin, yes Chaplin, marking the Hoff - it just doesn't work). Whatever happens, I don't think Tigers fans will be disappointed :)
Quote from: JROO8 on November 06, 2014, 02:15:55 PM
I don't no where all this came from (not you, the article on the AFL website). All Dan Richardson said was
"Like all clubs, we are looking to have salary cap room to do what we need to improve our list," he said.
"It is fair to say we're setting ourselves up from that point of time."
Npw apparently we're after every player out of contract next year, haha.
Tbh, I don't think it's a big deal. It's unlikely we're going to get any of those guns when every club are after them. Obviously I'd love them both to come across, but it's much more likely we target someone who isn't such a big name such as a Shiel or Tomlinson for example.
But yes I agree with you, we'd need to perform on the field if we're any chance of getting a big name. I'm just saying it's not really a big deal if we don't get a gun across, it's pretty unlikely anyway.
IMO, we need to re-sign Cotch, Dusty and Rance before we can think about free-agency.
Pretty much.
Re-signing the out of contract fellas is top priority.
Then we'll perform on-field to close the gap between our best (which is pretty damn good) and our worst (which is just ugly).
Once we do that and be a tad more consistent, we'll be fine and we'll definitely be an attractive club because we've shown that we can be already.
Quote from: powersuperkents on November 06, 2014, 02:42:34 PM
Quote from: JROO8 on November 06, 2014, 02:15:55 PM
I don't no where all this came from (not you, the article on the AFL website). All Dan Richardson said was
"Like all clubs, we are looking to have salary cap room to do what we need to improve our list," he said.
"It is fair to say we're setting ourselves up from that point of time."
Npw apparently we're after every player out of contract next year, haha.
Tbh, I don't think it's a big deal. It's unlikely we're going to get any of those guns when every club are after them. Obviously I'd love them both to come across, but it's much more likely we target someone who isn't such a big name such as a Shiel or Tomlinson for example.
But yes I agree with you, we'd need to perform on the field if we're any chance of getting a big name. I'm just saying it's not really a big deal if we don't get a gun across, it's pretty unlikely anyway.
IMO, we need to re-sign Cotch, Dusty and Rance before we can think about free-agency.
I'd rate two of those players higher than Dangerfield ;) & Rance is a gun full back
Yeah they need to deal with other issues first and I don't see why recruiting should be a big deal anyway. They have one of the best lists in the afl in terms of talent/prospective talent and besides Miles & Petterd (to an extent) recruiting from other clubs hasn't worked for them anyway. What I think is so good about the Tigers is their players are loyal, that's what will make them a strong team, they either are given a second chance or are recruited at the draft and obviously the club culture sees them form an attachment to the club, so strong that they are willing to put their bodies on the line (even in situations are reckless as a Jono Brown set-up) in the name of the team. I don't think fans should really care, whether or not they recruit, they have a fantastic list as is, they just need to work on consistency and they'll be a top 4 side. Shiel & Tomlinson would be great pick ups for the Tigers though, they already have the midfield depth but Shiel could be a nice inclusion to the interchange, or a half-forward flanker bombing it from 60m out. Tomlinson could make a great swing-man - something the Tigers really need. That would actually be my main concern, Cameron could serve as a centre-half forward and a development prospect, but do they really need him when they have a dual coleman medalist (who won when they were a bottom team I might add to make the feat more impressive) and their midfield depth is fantastic, bringing Danger in would just mean throwing some young talent out. It would improve the team, no doubt, but is it really necessary when their are more important roles to fill. I have to agree, I think Tomlinson would be the best target, a swingman is all they are missing (their EF against Port really showed that when they had to resort to Chaplin, yes Chaplin, marking the Hoff - it just doesn't work). Whatever happens, I don't think Tigers fans will be disappointed :)
Haha, yep agree with you there.
Although I'd say Maric has been a success and so has Houli. Grigg has also been serviceable.
People keep saying Richmond's recruiting is average but we've done quite well with a bunch of our recycled players, and our drafting has been great recently!
I think Shiel and Tomlinson would be very handy pickups next year though agreed ;)
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I don't no where all this came from (not you, the article on the AFL website). All Dan Richardson said was
"Like all clubs, we are looking to have salary cap room to do what we need to improve our list," he said.
"It is fair to say we're setting ourselves up from that point of time."
Npw apparently we're after every player out of contract next year, haha.
Tbh, I don't think it's a big deal. It's unlikely we're going to get any of those guns when every club are after them. Obviously I'd love them both to come across, but it's much more likely we target someone who isn't such a big name such as a Shiel or Tomlinson for example.
But yes I agree with you, we'd need to perform on the field if we're any chance of getting a big name. I'm just saying it's not really a big deal if we don't get a gun across, it's pretty unlikely anyway.
IMO, we need to re-sign Cotch, Dusty and Rance before we can think about free-agency.
I'd rate two of those players higher than Dangerfield ;) & Rance is a gun full back
Yeah they need to deal with other issues first and I don't see why recruiting should be a big deal anyway. They have one of the best lists in the afl in terms of talent/prospective talent and besides Miles & Petterd (to an extent) recruiting from other clubs hasn't worked for them anyway. What I think is so good about the Tigers is their players are loyal, that's what will make them a strong team, they either are given a second chance or are recruited at the draft and obviously the club culture sees them form an attachment to the club, so strong that they are willing to put their bodies on the line (even in situations are reckless as a Jono Brown set-up) in the name of the team. I don't think fans should really care, whether or not they recruit, they have a fantastic list as is, they just need to work on consistency and they'll be a top 4 side. Shiel & Tomlinson would be great pick ups for the Tigers though, they already have the midfield depth but Shiel could be a nice inclusion to the interchange, or a half-forward flanker bombing it from 60m out. Tomlinson could make a great swing-man - something the Tigers really need. That would actually be my main concern, Cameron could serve as a centre-half forward and a development prospect, but do they really need him when they have a dual coleman medalist (who won when they were a bottom team I might add to make the feat more impressive) and their midfield depth is fantastic, bringing Danger in would just mean throwing some young talent out. It would improve the team, no doubt, but is it really necessary when their are more important roles to fill. I have to agree, I think Tomlinson would be the best target, a swingman is all they are missing (their EF against Port really showed that when they had to resort to Chaplin, yes Chaplin, marking the Hoff - it just doesn't work). Whatever happens, I don't think Tigers fans will be disappointed :)
Haha, yep agree with you there.
Although I'd say Maric has been a success and so has Houli. Grigg has also been serviceable.
Should soon be able to add Taylor Hunt to the list.
Got a good feeling.
Same with Miles, I think he was drafted from the giants or suns originally wasnt he ?
Quote from: Szaboss on November 06, 2014, 03:53:58 PM
Same with Miles, I think he was drafted from the giants or suns originally wasnt he ?
Giants, taken as a zone selection.
Forgot about Houli, Maric, & Grigg (always rated him dt wise in Carlton - proved it in Richmond, even if it was short-lived due to a role change). Yeah I think the reason why Richmond is denigrated for the recruiting is because when they make a poor decision, the aftermath is much worse than other clubs (Knights was injury prone so of course people will criticise them in hindsight - Tambling was picked before Franklin so of course people are going to draw unfair comparisons - and Oakley-Nicholls is criticised even though only definitively better picks after him were Birchall & Jones - the rest are known injury prone players).
Tbh the Demons have the worst recruiting record out of all clubs. Richmond is just criticised because other Melbourne clubs either have rivalries with them or see them as a threat. Looking at the last five years, recruitment has been fantastic.
Just a interesting fact, Richmond have been lucky in the past due to teams tanking against them:
The Kruezer cup 2007
#1 Matt Kreuzer < #2Trent Cotchin
Demon's tanking 2009
#1 Tom Scully/#2 Jack Trengove < #3 Dustin Martin (better than both combined)
Ironic isn't it hahaha
Very ironic! :P
Just had a read about Knights hopefully his body holds up and he can have an impact in the forward line next year , could free up Martin would love to see him using his strength and bursting out of the middle and slotting long goals as a weekly highlight ;)
Yeah think Knights has a lot to add on the field if he can get himself fit, but it's also good to hear him admit that he's not guaranteed a starting spot any more with guys like Gordon, Lennon and McDonough all pushing for selection.
Quote from: Toga on November 07, 2014, 12:13:18 PM
Yeah think Knights has a lot to add on the field if he can get himself fit, but it's also good to hear him admit that he's not guaranteed a starting spot any more with guys like Gordon, Lennon and McDonough all pushing for selection.
That's what we want to see players striving for limited places in the team it is good for all teams and probably an area the Tiges can really improve in , in the past some of the players that have been getting a game have not really grabbed there chances maybe that is about to change in 2015 :P
(https://fbcdn-sphotos-g-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xaf1/v/t1.0-9/10312372_10152841874418276_3379402075028516758_n.jpg?oh=5fcc53d00d308b5869625c1b3ee1e4f0&oe=54D9016F&__gda__=1424314843_543727a9d70102b24ecbe3723824bf44)
::) whoever thought of that probs thought they were so smart lol
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on November 08, 2014, 01:14:44 AM
::) whoever thought of that probs thought they were so smart lol
Nothing wrong with a good pun.
I've just finished reviewing James Rose and I like the lad, seems to be more of a Billings type than an Aaron Edwards. He tested really well at the combine too, ran a 2.97sec/20m & a 14.6 beep. My gut feeling is he will become a midfielder, Sturt have been playing him down back & on a wing so the wheels are already in motion. Definitely one to consider with pick 52.
Quote from: Bully on November 09, 2014, 12:05:00 AM
I've just finished reviewing James Rose and I like the lad, seems to be more of a Billings type than an Aaron Edwards. He tested really well at the combine too, ran a 2.97sec/20m & a 14.6 beep. My gut feeling is he will become a midfielder, Sturt have been playing him down back & on a wing so the wheels are already in motion. Definitely one to consider with pick 52.
Pace of that calibre will be important to us, could do a lot worse with pick 52.
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Quote from: Bully on November 09, 2014, 12:05:00 AM
I've just finished reviewing James Rose and I like the lad, seems to be more of a Billings type than an Aaron Edwards. He tested really well at the combine too, ran a 2.97sec/20m & a 14.6 beep. My gut feeling is he will become a midfielder, Sturt have been playing him down back & on a wing so the wheels are already in motion. Definitely one to consider with pick 52.
Pace of that calibre will be important to us, could do a lot worse with pick 52.
I like him too, definitely a good value pick at 52.
Some observations from the pre-season training photos.
Madonna has shaved his head.
Bikkies clearly doesn't even lift.
McBean still looks like... a bean.
Conca has a filthy beard.
Batch looks like he might have a mullet.
Ivan's cousin Ivan already looks to have slimmed a tiny bit.
I really hope Lennon and McDonough come on a bit more this year and break into the senior side more regularly. Will be very handy!
Quote from: Nige on November 10, 2014, 01:37:30 PM
Some observations from the pre-season training photos.
Madonna has shaved his head.
Bikkies clearly doesn't even lift.
McBean still looks like... a bean.
Conca has a filthy beard head.
Batch looks like he might have a mullet.
Ivan's cousin Ivan already looks to have slimmed a tiny bit.
:P
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Quote from: Nige on November 10, 2014, 01:37:30 PM
Some observations from the pre-season training photos.
Madonna has shaved his head.
Bikkies clearly doesn't even lift.
McBean still looks like... a bean.
Conca has a filthy beard head.
Batch looks like he might have a mullet.
Ivan's cousin Ivan already looks to have slimmed a tiny bit.
:P
The beard has made it that much worse!
Late list change: @Richmond_FC delists Matt Arnot but says it will redraft him as a rookie
Quote from: Ricochet on November 10, 2014, 03:33:18 PM
Late list change: @Richmond_FC delists Matt Arnot but says it will redraft him as a rookie
Had a heard attack and cried before I finished reading that sentence. :(
Here's the article on it: http://www.richmondfc.com.au/news/2014-11-10/tigers-delist-arnot
I really hope he can do well enough to get a permanent elevation and have a good career.
Soon as I saw it I thought "Nige will be devo".
They are committing to re-sign him as a rookie, which at least means he has a role at Richmond in the future.
Brisbane said the same thing about Banfield and we took him before they could, not that it did us any good anyway, so anything could happen.
Quote from: nickstiges on November 11, 2014, 05:03:08 PM
Brisbane said the same thing about Banfield and we took him before they could, not that it did us any good anyway, so anything could happen.
Brisbane could've taken him before in the rookie draft but got Issac Conway instead
Looks like the three we're after is Liam Duggan, Corey Ellis and Lachie Weller.
At least one should be there at our pick.
Preference of those three is Weller, but I still reckon it's gonna be Duggan that ends up in yellow and black.
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2014-11-10/tigers-eye-classy-mids
Yeah, as you say Nige looks like it'll be between those three blokes. Personally think we're a monty to have one of Weller, Ahern, Duggan, De Goey to slip to us, my hopes are still that Weller will reach #12, but would be happy enough with Duggan. At this stage think Ellis would just be a last resort if none of the above slide through to us.
Quote from: Nige on November 11, 2014, 06:34:27 PM
Looks like the three we're after is Liam Duggan, Corey Ellis and Lachie Weller.
At least one should be there at our pick.
Preference of those three is Weller, but I still reckon it's gonna be Duggan that ends up in yellow and black.
The article loses all credibility when it states we'll consider Wright, from my understanding Weller is our first preference in the event Wright is off the table, followed by Duggan & then Ellis.
Don't care what Conca looks like, just want him to have a big season already.
He's been ok and is still young but I think he's overdue to break out. Getting a little impatient with him.
If he and to a lesser extent Vlastuin can have break out seasons then it will help massively and give us a very potent midfield
This season is make or break for Concs, and I have a feeling we might see a breakout of sorts from him! Was watching his highlights package from under 18s the other day, showed some real creativeness and flair that we haven't really seen at AFL level yet... Here's hoping he can give a bit of that!
Vlastuin dropped off a bit this year (would the emergence of Miles have anything to do with that?), but I'm sure he'll come good next year with another preseason under his belt :)
Conca might have to be the one who gets the Choco treatment in 2015.
Don't worry about Conca boys, he'll have a huge year for NDT next year ;)
Quote from: Nige on November 12, 2014, 10:23:03 PM
Conca might have to be the one who gets the Choco treatment in 2015.
Him and Vickery hopefully. If they have big breakout years then we move forward IMO
Agreed about Conca.
From the looks of it, he looks a bit slimmer, hopefully set for a big year!
Latest draft talk is we are seriously considering Cockatoo, make it happen FJ, please make it happen. (No more flankers like Duggan).
Quote from: JROO8 on November 13, 2014, 12:30:08 PM
Agreed about Conca.
From the looks of it, he looks a bit slimmer, hopefully set for a big year!
From the look of it he's auditioning for Beauty and the Geek. :P
Quote from: Bully on November 13, 2014, 02:54:17 PM
Latest draft talk is we are seriously considering Cockatoo, make it happen FJ, please make it happen. (No more flankers like Duggan).
I'd take him.
Still want Weller the most though.
Quote from: Nige on November 13, 2014, 02:56:42 PM
Quote from: Bully on November 13, 2014, 02:54:17 PM
Latest draft talk is we are seriously considering Cockatoo, make it happen FJ, please make it happen. (No more flankers like Duggan).
I'd take him.
Still want Weller the most though.
Agree, I watched the AIS vs Collingwood reserves game last night and Weller has 'it', just so composed, fast and and agile. His inside game is also grossly underrated. Duggan on the other hand was miles behind in development, those claiming he's the next Dal Santo have no idea, he plays like Chris Newman. If he makes it in the midfield it will take 2-3 years, completely outside when matched up against men.
Quote from: Nige on November 13, 2014, 02:56:42 PM
Still want Weller the most though.
He's come around!! 8)
Quote from: Toga on November 13, 2014, 06:20:07 PM
Quote from: Nige on November 13, 2014, 02:56:42 PM
Still want Weller the most though.
He's come around!! 8)
I've always wanted him more than Duggan, but I wanted Laverde and Ahern more.
No you can't take my spot as #LachiesNumberOneFanboy :-*
Who are we most likely to get? I haven't followed it at all this year
Not really sure quinny it's a bit up in the air at the moment.
Initially looked like we would take a winger like Duggan, Weller, Ahern or someone (which I still think we will probably go with) - Weller is my #1 choice out of them. Has pace, elite kicking skills and finds space, not to mention he's a Tiges supporter ;)
But then it started to sound like Peter Wright might slip out of the top 5, where he was widely tipped to go, and so there's been some speculation we might grab him if he's not gone by our pick. Tall ruck/forward (not sure which he's suited to yet) - we need a ruck to replace Maric down the track but I'm not sure Pete is the guy we need this year.
And then most recently a few phantom drafts have us linked with Sam Durdin, a tall utility that can play back, forward and pinch hit in the ruck. The competition for spots we've got for tall spots at both ends makes me think Durdin wouldn't really suit our needs at the moment.
All that being said I'm hoping we get Weller as I think he's gonna be exactly what we need, Deledio 2.0
Thanks toga. Weller it is!
Is Weller a Tiges supporter? :(
Quote from: elephants on November 14, 2014, 01:06:01 PM
Is Weller a Tiges supporter? :(
surely not , no one would own up tio being a tigers supporter :P
Depending on who goes picks 1-7 GC might not go for Weller at 8 and try for him at 15, which gives the tigers a chance at 12
Quote from: elephants on November 14, 2014, 01:06:01 PM
Is Weller a Tiges supporter? :(
Yeah he is! 8)
Still think you boys will be a chance for him with #11 - although Cal Twomey just said on his draft feed that Duggan and Weller are pretty neck-and-neck favourites for you boys with Cockatoo a close third.
Cockatoo would add something else to your midfield if that's the avenue the Eagles go down! :o
Quote from: Toga on November 14, 2014, 01:43:20 PM
Quote from: elephants on November 14, 2014, 01:06:01 PM
Is Weller a Tiges supporter? :(
Yeah he is! 8)
Still think you boys will be a chance for him with #11 - although Cal Twomey just said on his draft feed that Duggan and Weller are pretty neck-and-neck favourites for you boys with Cockatoo a close third.
Cockatoo would add something else to your midfield if that's the avenue the Eagles go down! :o
Haha yeah there's about 10 different names up there for #11 but I've got a few favs. Ahern would be a massive slider and at 11 we couldn't say no, Weller is the safe and secure option, he just looks like a footballer. And then Cockatoo is so so so much #yolo. Wish we had a pick in 16-20 to take him tbh, #11 is a massive risk :P
Haha yeah if it backfired with #11 the club would definitely have egg on its face... But could go the other way as well ;) Around that 20 mark is probably a safe spot to take him!
But yeah there's so many different contenders for the #10, #11 and #12 picks. As you can probably tell though I'm really hoping you guys pass up on Weller :-*
At the end of the day, the evening of the 27th is going to be full of surprises because the draft pool is so open.
The true wildcard is GWS because 4, 6 and 7 will shape the draft, plus then Gold Coast at 8 and Geelong at 10.
The Eagles and Tigers are without a doubt in the best position imo, because I'm fairly confident both teams will get somebody who surprisingly slips out of the 10.
Yeah exactly Nige, whatever the case, WCE and us are going to get some sliders due to teams ahead of us picking based on needs, just like last year with Lennon.
And I think the team that will really shape who falls to picks 11 & 12 will be Geelong - they are in the perfect position to grab a quality tall, but will they want to after trading for two big men in Clark and Stanley? That being said, if GWS picks two of Wright, Lever, Goddard, Durdin then WCE and Richmond will both just about be guaranteed a quality winger.
Quote from: Toga on November 14, 2014, 02:02:55 PM
Yeah exactly Nige, whatever the case, WCE and us are going to get some sliders due to teams ahead of us picking based on needs, just like last year with Lennon.
And I think the team that will really shape who falls to picks 11 & 12 will be Geelong - they are in the perfect position to grab a quality tall, but will they want to after trading for two big men in Clark and Stanley? That being said, if GWS picks two of Wright, Lever, Goddard, Durdin then WCE and Richmond will both just about be guaranteed a quality winger.
Yeah good thinking, I really think the Cata will have to go after a mid. They've lost a few mids and their current mids aren't getting any younger :-\
That being said i still think that Ahern will be the Cats #1 choice, and reckon he might just slip through to them.. Should mean that Duggan and/or Weller will slip through to #12?
I personally think Ahern's going to GWS.
They'll take him, Lever and either Laverde/De Goey or another tall like Goddard/Wright.
Whoever West Coast/we get is 110% based on who the Cats select. If Adelaide had it, I think it would be more clear cut, but the Cats can go either way and have so many options, it's anybody's guess.
I think given the option we will take Weller over Duggan (if that means anything haha)
Quote from: elephants on November 14, 2014, 08:22:56 PM
I think given the option we will take Weller over Duggan (if that means anything haha)
I think given the option, most teams would take Weller over Duggan.
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Quote from: elephants on November 14, 2014, 08:22:56 PM
I think given the option we will take Weller over Duggan (if that means anything haha)
I think given the option, most teams would take Weller over Duggan.
Twomey thinks Richmond would take Duggan over Weller atm
Quote from: Toga on November 14, 2014, 08:54:31 PM
Quote from: Nige on November 14, 2014, 08:45:25 PM
Quote from: elephants on November 14, 2014, 08:22:56 PM
I think given the option we will take Weller over Duggan (if that means anything haha)
I think given the option, most teams would take Weller over Duggan.
Twomey thinks Richmond would take Duggan over Weller atm
This bugs me.
I like Duggan, I really do... like I think he'll be a great player, but I don't really want him at Richmond and I can't work out why.
Know nothing about either of them but after just watching their highlights/interviews on the AFL site I really like the look of Duggan. Sounds like a future captain already and looks as smooth as they get on the field
Quote from: Nige on November 14, 2014, 08:45:25 PM
Quote from: elephants on November 14, 2014, 08:22:56 PM
I think given the option we will take Weller over Duggan (if that means anything haha)
I think given the option, most teams would take Weller over Duggan.
Cool, just saying WCE is one of those :p
Contract can wait, says young Giant Shiel
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2014-11-15/first-things-first-for-giant
Quote from: Nige on November 14, 2014, 09:18:12 PM
Quote from: Toga on November 14, 2014, 08:54:31 PM
Quote from: Nige on November 14, 2014, 08:45:25 PM
Quote from: elephants on November 14, 2014, 08:22:56 PM
I think given the option we will take Weller over Duggan (if that means anything haha)
I think given the option, most teams would take Weller over Duggan.
Twomey thinks Richmond would take Duggan over Weller atm
This bugs me.
I like Duggan, I really do... like I think he'll be a great player, but I don't really want him at Richmond and I can't work out why.
Duggan still has the makings of a Chris Newman, which isn't necessarily a bad thing, but I don't think he has the upside of Weller. At the moment we desperately need run & carry players, Weller is that very player and I also think many in the media are selling short his inside game. He's only 72kg yet has still managed to mix it with VFL players in terms of contested possessions, considering he should put on an additional 10 kg his ceiling is huge.
My concerns with Duggan mainly stem from his lack of power in the first 3 steps and his lack of agility. He's also been tagged out of matches at TAC level and I have some questions about his ability to handle the extra attention at AFL level. I'm seeing his absolute ceiling being a Kade Simpson type, his kicking is first class and his tackling is also top notch. He'll probably make for a wingman but not a speedy type. Having both Ellis & Duggan on the wings makes us a bit one paced in my opinion, we really need our own version of Brad Hill in the side.
Quote from: Bully on November 15, 2014, 06:03:15 PM
Duggan still has the makings of a Chris Newman, which isn't necessarily a bad thing, but I don't think he has the upside of Weller.
^ Pretty much sums up my thoughts on Duggan vs Weller!
Quote from: Bully on November 15, 2014, 06:03:15 PM
He'll probably make for a wingman but not a speedy type.
Shaun Grigg is kinda like that, but Duggan can actually football.
Quote from: Nige on November 15, 2014, 06:28:19 PM
Quote from: Bully on November 15, 2014, 06:03:15 PM
He'll probably make for a wingman but not a speedy type.
Shaun Grigg is kinda like that, but Duggan can actually football.
At the moment he's still very outside so I can see the similarities, he's a much better kick though, and has a better defensive game. Cavka is the one who would be an upgrade on Grigg, his work rate is exceptional and I think he will make an impact in 2015.
Paige's latest phantom draft has us getting Lachie Weller, Toby McLean, Matt Goodyear and Taylor Grace. I'd be rapt with that haul.
Don't know much about the others apart from Weller yet, what kind of players are they?
Quote from: Toga on November 17, 2014, 08:05:50 PM
Don't know much about the others apart from Weller yet, what kind of players are they?
I'll list the player comparisons, might be best way to explain them.
Toby McLean is compared to Jamie Elliott. Also was runner-up in TAC B&F and was best on in the granny.
Matt Goodyear is compared to Jono O'Rourke. Speedy, wins the ball, good defensive game.
Taylor Grace is compared to Nick Dal Santo. He's a year older than most of the guys (95 born as opposed to 96). Racks it up, good footy brain, not the quickest though.
Cool Nige, that's a good start to explaining how they play for sure!
As you know by now I am set on Weller and really hope we get him as I think he's exactly what we are crying out for! McLean sounds like he would fill another need for us in that crafty small fwd role which will be important that we start developing someone for. Added midfield depth is always a plus, wouldn't mind seeing some more versatile types with our later picks though. Can't wait for the draft!
Quote from: Toga on November 17, 2014, 10:06:03 PM
Can't wait for the draft!
Next Thursday cannot come quick enough.
For me it's Cockatoo, Weller or Wright, be stoked with any.
Second round, I reckon we'll get a shot at Gore, Cavka or Webb, again will be happy with any.
Third round I have a slightly longer list, most will be taken but one is sure to drop. Bampton, Lonie, Boekhorst & Rose.
Fourth round both Daniel & McGrath are the steals. McGuiness & Beasley would also have to come under serious consideration.
Quote from: Bully on November 17, 2014, 11:53:08 PM
For me it's Cockatoo, Weller or Wright, be stoked with any.
Second round, I reckon we'll get a shot at Gore, Cavka or Webb, again will be happy with any.
Third round I have a slightly longer list, most will be taken but one is sure to drop. Bampton, Lonie, Boekhorst & Rose.
Fourth round both Daniel & McGrath are the steals. McGuiness & Beasley would also have to come under serious consideration.
Weller.
Gore, Webb.
Lonie, Rose.
Daniel, McGuinness.
From the names you've mentioned, I'd like those fellas.
Trent Cotchin could be in line for a massive contract extension with Richmond (http://www.foxsports.com.au/afl/afl-premiership/trent-cotchin-could-be-in-line-for-a-massive-contract-extension-with-richmond/story-e6frf3e3-1227127464782?nk=a54d6f90705788d36fbd1ea25d3d214b).
Sounds like we're going to be looking at a massive contract to lock away Cotch now that he's entering free agency, good news!
The article also mentions that Rance will open contract talks after Christmas, but it seems unlikely he'll want to move unless he doesn't get the contract that he deserves.
Dustin Martin has returned to training in quality shape which is good to hear, must admit I was a bit worried seeing all the photos of him and Swanny in Vegas :P But it's good to hear that he's also hoping to re-sign with Richmond before he is out of contract at the end of 2015.
Lock in Cotch, Dusty and Tross then go hard at free-agency 8)
Quote from: JROO8 on November 19, 2014, 10:19:07 AM
Lock in Cotch, Dusty and Tross then go hard at free-agency 8)
Agreed.
I noticed this line at the bottom of the article too..
"Gale told SEN Radio yesterday the club still had a war-chest for a free agent next year but only on a targeted acquisition, not just to bring in a player for the sake of it."
So what do you guys think we would be lookng to target?
Truck starts his coaching career at the Tigers. Didnt know this was happening.
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2014-11-19/truck-gets-rolling
Quote from: quinny88 on November 19, 2014, 06:41:04 PM
Quote from: JROO8 on November 19, 2014, 10:19:07 AM
Lock in Cotch, Dusty and Tross then go hard at free-agency 8)
Agreed.
I noticed this line at the bottom of the article too..
"Gale told SEN Radio yesterday the club still had a war-chest for a free agent next year but only on a targeted acquisition, not just to bring in a player for the sake of it."
So what do you guys think we would be lookng to target?
Dangerfield and Shiel would be 2 to start with .
Quote from: quinny88 on November 19, 2014, 06:41:04 PM
So what do you guys think we would be lookng to target?
Sloane, Dangerfield, Shiel, Treloar, Tomlinson are names that spring to mind.
Have a look at this, won't be long before Brando is in the leadership group. Did lol when I saw Grigg as water boy :P
http://www.richmondfc.com.au/video/2014-11-19/micd-up-brandons-banter
Sloane im hoping will sign soon but yeh Danger is certainly an option. I have a bad feeling he aint going to stay. Geelong could be your stumbling block though as he comes from down that way but if the offer is good enough from the Tigers who knows you could snag him.
Yeah there's quite a few names up for grabs next year Grazzy so it will certainly be interesting to see who's loyal and stays at their original clubs and who goes. I think you're right that Sloane will re-sign, but Danger I'm not confident about. And I'm sure Geelong is probably gonna be his preferred team if he does leave, so we might be going after the GWS boys instead I reckon.
Breathing in all that rubbish from Punt Rd just can't be good
Quote from: Toga on November 19, 2014, 06:58:30 PM
Quote from: quinny88 on November 19, 2014, 06:41:04 PM
So what do you guys think we would be lookng to target?
Sloane, Dangerfield, Shiel, Treloar, Tomlinson are names that spring to mind.
Tomlinsom just re signed the other day but any of the other 4 would be fine
It's probably gonna be Shiel or Treloar I reckon.
So we all think a mid?
Sort of took what Gale said more as we will go after a certain player to fill a position. Can never have enough gun mids though I guess but maybe a forward would be on the radar? Hawkins is a FA next year ;)
Quote from: quinny88 on November 19, 2014, 07:19:38 PM
So we all think a mid?
Sort of took what Gale said more as we will go after a certain player to fill a position. Can never have enough gun mids though I guess but maybe a forward would be on the radar? Hawkins is a FA next year ;)
I still have bad memories of Kent Kingsley. :P
Quote from: Nige on November 19, 2014, 07:20:22 PM
Quote from: quinny88 on November 19, 2014, 07:19:38 PM
So we all think a mid?
Sort of took what Gale said more as we will go after a certain player to fill a position. Can never have enough gun mids though I guess but maybe a forward would be on the radar? Hawkins is a FA next year ;)
I still have bad memories of Kent Kingsley. :P
Hahaha don't we all :P he was already a dud though :P Hawkins is a gun
Quote from: quinny88 on November 19, 2014, 07:19:38 PM
So we all think a mid?
Sort of took what Gale said more as we will go after a certain player to fill a position. Can never have enough gun mids though I guess but maybe a forward would be on the radar? Hawkins is a FA next year ;)
Hawkins is a bit like Cloke inconsistent don't know if I would like to be paying mega bucks for him we are already forking out $700k for Jack , Dangerfield is showing all the signs he is leaving but there will be a bidding war for him he might even end up the highest paid player .
Quote from: shaker on November 19, 2014, 07:26:05 PM
Quote from: quinny88 on November 19, 2014, 07:19:38 PM
So we all think a mid?
Sort of took what Gale said more as we will go after a certain player to fill a position. Can never have enough gun mids though I guess but maybe a forward would be on the radar? Hawkins is a FA next year ;)
Hawkins is a bit like Cloke inconsistent don't know if I would like to be paying mega bucks for him we are already forking out $700k for Jack , Dangerfield is showing all the signs he is leaving but there will be a bidding war for him he might even end up the highest paid player .
Hawkins is a hell of a lot better and more consistent than cloke but yeah I know what you mean.
I think a lot more will be revealed during this year as to what position we need to fill.
If one of Vickery or Grifiths can have a massive breakout year then the need for a forward will be solved
I think Hawkins is probably already on mega bucks at Geelong so you'd need a big long term deal to get him
Quote from: Mailman the 2nd on November 19, 2014, 08:37:44 PM
I think Hawkins is probably already on mega bucks at Geelong so you'd need a big long term deal to get him
Yeah I don't think he would leave anyway was just throwing it out there.
If were gonna throw big money at someone I would rather it be Dangerfield
Quote from: quinny88 on November 19, 2014, 08:51:23 PM
Quote from: Mailman the 2nd on November 19, 2014, 08:37:44 PM
I think Hawkins is probably already on mega bucks at Geelong so you'd need a big long term deal to get him
Yeah I don't think he would leave anyway was just throwing it out there.
If were gonna throw big money at someone I would rather it be Dangerfield
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Quote from: Mailman the 2nd on November 19, 2014, 08:37:44 PM
I think Hawkins is probably already on mega bucks at Geelong so you'd need a big long term deal to get him
Yeah I don't think he would leave anyway was just throwing it out there.
If were gonna throw big money at someone I would rather it be Dangerfield
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Or Sloane I'm not picky 8)
If Danger does move on there is going to be frenzy on him he may well end up to expensive , maybe we would be better off chasing Treloar or Shiel
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Quote from: Mailman the 2nd on November 19, 2014, 08:37:44 PM
I think Hawkins is probably already on mega bucks at Geelong so you'd need a big long term deal to get him
Yeah I don't think he would leave anyway was just throwing it out there.
If were gonna throw big money at someone I would rather it be Dangerfield
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Or Sloane I'm not picky 8)
Used to like you people. :(
Jake Lever has suddenly come into the picture, if he's available I think we'll pounce.
Quote from: Bully on November 19, 2014, 10:19:39 PM
Jake Lever has suddenly come into the picture, if he's available I think we'll pounce.
At 12, surely not? :o
I'd still like Weller, but I reckon we should certainly take him if available, he's a top 10 player in this pool.
Quote from: Nige on November 19, 2014, 10:25:38 PM
Quote from: Bully on November 19, 2014, 10:19:39 PM
Jake Lever has suddenly come into the picture, if he's available I think we'll pounce.
At 12, surely not? :o
I'd still like Weller, but I reckon we should certainly take him if available, he's a top 10 player in this pool.
Lever was a star last year, plays like Mundy and could feasibly move into the midfield. With guys like Bonti coming to the fore, tall runners are becoming much more viable. He's not the quickest but he reads the play beautifully, super high footballing IQ. We have to call his name if available.
The club made a profit of 1.3 million dollars this year. That's the 10th year in a row we've made a profit.
Add to that the fact that it's only November and we already have over 36,000 members.
Just need it to translate onto the field now 8)
Choco has reportedly been diagnosed with lymphoma. :(
Wishing him and his family all the best in his fight.
Quote from: Nige on November 23, 2014, 07:06:34 PM
Choco has reportedly been diagnosed with lymphoma. :(
Wishing him and his family all the best in his fight.
A nasty diagnosis sadly...I am with you big Nige
Just saw that on Facebook hope he can make a recovery.
All the best to Choco & family, some unfortunate news :(
Surprised to hear that he will continue his job as development coach while getting treatment
That's good to hear though I think, I'm sure it would be good for him to keep busy. He will only do what he feels capable of and the club will obviously be doing the best thing by him throughout his treatment.
So we ended up with Ellis. We had the chance to take Weller too, which is a player I know a lot of you guys wanted.
I'll take Ellis.
Clearly we were after an outside mid, as seen in the trade period when we were after Trengove and Armo.
Ellis. :(
Menadue. :D
Drummond. 8)
Quote from: Chelskiman on November 27, 2014, 07:35:25 PM
So we ended up with Ellis. We had the chance to take Weller too, which is a player I know a lot of you guys wanted.
We could have drafted Weller/Laverde & Blakely/Neal-Bullen, poor choices. We also overlooked Gore at 52.
Quote from: Bully on November 27, 2014, 08:01:10 PM
Quote from: Chelskiman on November 27, 2014, 07:35:25 PM
So we ended up with Ellis. We had the chance to take Weller too, which is a player I know a lot of you guys wanted.
We could have drafted Weller/Laverde & Blakely/Neal-Bullen, poor choices. We also overlooked Gore at 52.
Ellis is by no means bad, it's just who we passed up for him.
I think Weller is going to be an out-and-out gun, which has me disappointed that we passed up on him, but obviously see something in Ellis, and his track record has been pretty good recently so it will be good to see what he can bring to the club.
Reece McKenzie could be an exciting one too!
I'll back our recruiting staff in. We've drafted pretty well in recent years
Yeah, you can't argue with our recruiting staff in recent times. Still sad to see we passed up on Weller though. As Nige said though, it's not as if Ellis is a spud or anything.
Corey Ellis is elite. His outside game is ridiculously good and he's just so composed and classy. He just doesn't have the pace I'd like which the others we could have taken do.
I think I'm most excited about Nathan Drummond though, I reckon he'll be the pick of our draftees. A year older than most of them too.
My humble apologies for giving you folks the bum steer, cannot believe we overlooked Weller & Blakely, I just feel really hollow about now.
Quote from: Nige on November 27, 2014, 08:45:00 PM
Corey Ellis is elite. His outside game is ridiculously good and he's just so composed and classy. He just doesn't have the pace I'd like which the others we could have taken do.
Oi flower off, where's Nige.
Quote from: elephants on November 27, 2014, 08:47:31 PM
Quote from: Nige on November 27, 2014, 08:45:00 PM
Corey Ellis is elite. His outside game is ridiculously good and he's just so composed and classy. He just doesn't have the pace I'd like which the others we could have taken do.
Oi flower off, where's Nige.
He's come around.
Quote from: Nige on November 27, 2014, 08:45:00 PM
Corey Ellis is elite. His outside game is ridiculously good and he's just so composed and classy. He just doesn't have the pace I'd like which the others we could have taken do.
I think I'm most excited about Nathan Drummond though, I reckon he'll be the pick of our draftees. A year older than most of them too.
At least we got pace with most of other draftees.
Yeah I like Drummond, recon he can play games next year.
Quote from: Bully on November 27, 2014, 08:45:25 PM
My humble apologies for giving you folks the bum steer, cannot believe we overlooked Weller & Blakely, I just feel really hollow about now.
Haha all good mate, would've been happy with them two. I was hoping we'd go with Blakely in the second round, but guess we didn't need him when we already got Ellis.
Yeah it sounds like Ellis is one of the best kicks in the draft and is quality on the outside but has a stronger inside game than most of the other options we were looking at. Just feel like a really pacey winger is what was really needed, but I'm not gonna complain with Corey 8)
I'm pretty happy over all with our picks. Yeah, we all wanted Weller, but Ellis should be good. Drummond was a great pick for us too, and Menadue also looks good. I don't think we have too much to complain about really!
Quote from: JROO8 on November 27, 2014, 08:48:35 PM
Quote from: Nige on November 27, 2014, 08:45:00 PM
Corey Ellis is elite. His outside game is ridiculously good and he's just so composed and classy. He just doesn't have the pace I'd like which the others we could have taken do.
I think I'm most excited about Nathan Drummond though, I reckon he'll be the pick of our draftees. A year older than most of them too.
At least we got pace with most of other draftees.
Yeah I like Drummond, recon he can play games next year.
Quote from: Bully on November 27, 2014, 08:45:25 PM
My humble apologies for giving you folks the bum steer, cannot believe we overlooked Weller & Blakely, I just feel really hollow about now.
Haha all good mate, would've been happy with them two. I was hoping we'd go with Blakely in the second round, but guess we didn't need him when we already got Ellis.
And that was my point heading into the draft, grab the best pacey option and then get a sliding inside mid, Blakely has domintaed at WAFL level, he stands to be a Luke Dunstan. Weller is all class, his inside game is just as accomplished as Ellis but his agility and pace is elite. Francis Jackson has officially lost my confidence, no way we compete with the top 4 whilst we keep recruiting clones.
Just looking at the highlights of all our pickups and it looks like we have gone for pace aside from Ellis.
That big forward looks like a brute too
Missed out on Gore & Jaden McGrath too, Drummond is a butcher of the ball, just awful disposal at times. I have no idea what Frank is thinking.
I was pretty surprised we passed up on Gore tbh, I think he would've been a very good pickup for us.
I haven't seen much of Menadue and Drummond so can't say much, but as quinny said McKenzie looks like a brute, could be a player down the track.
Screw you guys, McKenzie is a steal at that pick. :(
I would have been happy if Blues took him with 28. :(
Quote from: quinny88 on November 27, 2014, 09:01:26 PM
Just looking at the highlights of all our pickups and it looks like we have gone for pace aside from Ellis.
That big forward looks like a brute too
There was talk of McKenzie going to the Saints at like 21 or 41, so we've done okay. ;) Interesting decision given we have Jack, Tyrone, Griff, Beanie, Hammer and Elton.
Hammer and Elton to be delisted? :o
Drummond played for our VFL team this year btw for those that didn't know, so the club has had a chance to watch him all year.
Quote from: Bully on November 27, 2014, 09:05:48 PM
Missed out on Gore & Jaden McGrath too, Drummond is a butcher of the ball, just awful disposal at times. I have no idea what Frank is thinking.
Give them a chance to play bro. Every player that was drafted goes to their club with a clean slate. What they did at under 18 level counts for nothing now. If in 3 years we look back and the players we could have had are dominating while ours aren't even getting a game, then we can complain then. In recent times though we've made good calls more often than not
Happy with the McKenzie pick, that's about it when I look at the others on offer. For me the ideal draft would have been Weller, Blakely, Gore, McGrath, McKenzie.
I like how the Richmond team consulted on every pick, still haunted by the ghost of draft pasts :P
Quote from: tbagrocks on November 27, 2014, 09:37:19 PM
I like how the Richmond team consulted on every pick, still haunted by the ghost of draft pasts :P
Can you blame them? Haha
Quote from: Bully on November 27, 2014, 09:14:01 PM
Happy with the McKenzie pick, that's about it when I look at the others on offer. For me the ideal draft would have been Weller, Blakely, Gore, McGrath, McKenzie.
sorry :-X
http://www.richmondfc.com.au/video/2014-11-27/recruitment-zone-draft-review
Reasoning behind our picks. Makes me even more confident hearing it straight from the horses mouth
Selection No.12 - Corey Ellis (Western Jets/PEGS)
Francis Jackson says: "Corey's an elite ball user, an inside midfielder and is a very good decision-maker with great composure. He's a really good competitor. He will enable Trent and Dustin and Brett [Deledio] to perhaps play a little bit of a different role because he's just got fantastic ball use and his kicking efficiency is outstanding. He's a late-year birthday so we think he has a lot of development in him as well and needs to put on a bit of weight at 77kg but athletically and physically, he already competes really well."
Selection No.33 - Connor Menadue (Western Jets/Spotswood)
Francis Jackson says: "Connor is a bit more outside than Corey with terrific speed but also has elite endurance - he's a 10-minute three-kilometre runner. We felt that speed was really important for us. He's also got a bit of work to do physically, his body is very light at 188cm, and he will need to put on a lot of bulk to play at AFL level."
Selection No.52 - Nathan Drummond (Murray Bushrangers/Shepparton Bears)
Francis Jackson says: "Nathan is another with elite speed and can play inside and outside, with endurance. He's a 19-year-old so he came back to the TAC competition and he's physically ready to go. He played for our VFL team for three games this year and trained in our environment so we were able to observe how he adapted and how he took on the challenges presented to him each week - and he was terrific."
Selection No.67 - Daniel Butler (North Ballarat Rebels/Lake Wendouree)
Francis Jackson says: "He's also got elite speed, he played for Vic Country in the carnival as a small forward/defensive forward but also had stints on ball, and we think again he's a little bit different and can provide that defensive pressure. He also brings really good speed as well."
Selection No.77 - Reece McKenzie (Northern Knights/Marcellin)
Francis Jackson says: "He's a tall 197cm key forward who already weighs over 100kg with fantastic hands. He kicked 10 goals in a TAC game, is an outstanding mark and has kicked significant goals at TAC standard. He's [Carlton premiership player] Warren McKenzie's son. He's got a bit of work to do with his conditioning but he has strong ability to mark the ball and provides a point of difference for us - he played for Vic Metro in one carnival game and certainly had an impact."
I think I know why McKenzie was taken so late...
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Clubs are starting to learn off the successful Essendon recruit Dustin Fletcher
I hope I look that good at 44.
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I like him already!
McKenzie is the highlight for me, was an absolute steal this late.
Quote from: Nige on November 27, 2014, 10:59:27 PM
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Certainly a better comment than the guy that Carlton Recruited.
I back our recruiting staff to pick Ellis over Laverde and Weller, given that they have been doing exceptionally well the past few seasons.
Quote from: Kellogscrunchynut on November 27, 2014, 11:20:29 PM
I back our recruiting staff to pick Ellis over Laverde and Weller, given that they have been doing exceptionally well the past few seasons.
Back to type though, Conca, Vlastuin, Lennon, all one-paced without the game-breaking qualities that a Laverde or Weller would bring.
Quote from: Bully on November 27, 2014, 11:22:49 PM
Quote from: Kellogscrunchynut on November 27, 2014, 11:20:29 PM
I back our recruiting staff to pick Ellis over Laverde and Weller, given that they have been doing exceptionally well the past few seasons.
Back to type though, Conca, Vlastuin, Lennon, all one-paced without the game-breaking qualities that a Laverde or Weller would bring.
Very safe, cookie cutter pick is what somebody on Twitter said, I agree.
Quote from: Nige on November 27, 2014, 11:24:08 PM
Quote from: Bully on November 27, 2014, 11:22:49 PM
Quote from: Kellogscrunchynut on November 27, 2014, 11:20:29 PM
I back our recruiting staff to pick Ellis over Laverde and Weller, given that they have been doing exceptionally well the past few seasons.
Back to type though, Conca, Vlastuin, Lennon, all one-paced without the game-breaking qualities that a Laverde or Weller would bring.
Very safe, cookie cutter pick is what somebody on Twitter said, I agree.
Good description, I'm actually starting to lose faith in FJ, he appears to be in self-preservation mode. he has kept his job based on first rounders alone. his later picks have been very ordinary. Any mug can get a decent footballer with a first rounder, time to start thinking outside of the box like Stephen Wells.
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Quote from: Kellogscrunchynut on November 27, 2014, 11:20:29 PM
I back our recruiting staff to pick Ellis over Laverde and Weller, given that they have been doing exceptionally well the past few seasons.
Back to type though, Conca, Vlastuin, Lennon, all one-paced without the game-breaking qualities that a Laverde or Weller would bring.
Very safe, cookie cutter pick is what somebody on Twitter said, I agree.
Good description, I'm actually starting to lose faith in FJ, he appears to be in self-preservation mode. he has kept his job based on first rounders alone. his later picks have been very ordinary. Any mug can get a decent footballer with a first rounder, time to start thinking outside of the box like Stephen Wells.
Won't lie, I was hoping we were bolder with our selections. Wasn't to be though, I guess we'll have to see what happens this time next year.
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Certainly a better comment than the guy that Carlton Recruited.
Haha Blaine Boekhurst supports the Blues just so you know :p
Quote from: Bully on November 27, 2014, 11:22:49 PM
Quote from: Kellogscrunchynut on November 27, 2014, 11:20:29 PM
I back our recruiting staff to pick Ellis over Laverde and Weller, given that they have been doing exceptionally well the past few seasons.
Back to type though, Conca, Vlastuin, Lennon, all one-paced without the game-breaking qualities that a Laverde or Weller would bring.
Yep Ellis seems like another "vanilla" selection.
As long as he turns out to be a decent player I'll be happy.
Quote from: Kellogscrunchynut on November 27, 2014, 11:20:29 PM
I back our recruiting staff to pick Ellis over Laverde and Weller, given that they have been doing exceptionally well the past few seasons.
Yeah agree none of these 3 are sure bets to make the grade it's a lottery overall happy with our picks , the only thing I'm not happy with was that with pick 12 our best we did not grab a ready made hard nut like Robinson for nicks in the trade period as I doubt any of these young guys are going to see any game time this year and probably little the next
Quote from: shaker on November 28, 2014, 09:22:23 AM
Quote from: Kellogscrunchynut on November 27, 2014, 11:20:29 PM
I back our recruiting staff to pick Ellis over Laverde and Weller, given that they have been doing exceptionally well the past few seasons.
Yeah agree none of these 3 are sure bets to make the grade it's a lottery overall happy with our picks , the only thing I'm not happy with was that with pick 12 our best we did not grab a ready made hard nut like Robinson for nicks in the trade period as I doubt any of these young guys are going to see any game time this year and probably little the next
Both Menadue & Ellis won't see much action next year, a combination of Weller & Blakely will almost certainly make an immediate impact. All things being equal, this would have tipped the scales for me, we are now officially in our premiership window, every year we spend developing players is another year down the gurglar with our A-team. Our pace deficit disorder will not be fixed next season, Menadue is still 10kg away from senior football, Drummond I'm not sold on, his disposal can be shoddy. Blair just better get a big name like Dangerfield or we'll be jogging on the spot. Port have strengthened their list, even Brisbane look to be making huge strides, and I loved their draft selections too. Based on our trading & recruiting I can't see how or where the improvement will come from.
I like Blakely. We may have thought that he wouldn't be there at #32, so that's why we had to grab Ellis at #12.
Quote from: JROO8 on November 28, 2014, 12:27:55 PM
I like Blakely. We may have thought that he wouldn't be there at #32, so that's why we had to grab Ellis at #12.
We didn't play the odds in my opinion, both Blakely & Neal-Bullen were still on the board. If these guys went early, Miller would have slid down the order. We were really lucky Menadue wasn't snapped up because we would have been reaching for Drummond. Freo played it beautifully, they rated Weller even despite the fact they were desperate for a tall. They got top marks from me.
Quote from: elephants on November 27, 2014, 11:50:19 PM
Haha Blaine Boekhurst supports the Blues just so you know :p
So does Reece McKenzie :(
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Quote from: elephants on November 27, 2014, 11:50:19 PM
Haha Blaine Boekhurst supports the Blues just so you know :p
So does Reece McKenzie :(
Cannot believe we didn't pick him.
Do we have a pick in the pre-season draft?
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Haha Blaine Boekhurst supports the Blues just so you know :p
So does Reece McKenzie :(
Cannot believe we didn't pick him.
Blues butchered the draft in my opinion, both Boekhorst & DVR were a reach. The former was certain to be available at 28 and the latter was more of a third rounder. Laverde & Goddard would have been super picks at 19.
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Quote from: elephants on November 27, 2014, 11:50:19 PM
Haha Blaine Boekhurst supports the Blues just so you know :p
So does Reece McKenzie :(
Cannot believe we didn't pick him.
Blues butchered the draft in my opinion, both Boekhorst & DVR were a reach. The former was certain to be available at 28 and the latter was more of a third rounder. Laverde & Goddard would have been super picks at 19.
Word was Essendon would have taken Boekhorst at 20
Yeah I'm pretty annoyed, what could have been. :'(
Quote from: Bully on November 28, 2014, 12:22:19 PM
Quote from: shaker on November 28, 2014, 09:22:23 AM
Quote from: Kellogscrunchynut on November 27, 2014, 11:20:29 PM
I back our recruiting staff to pick Ellis over Laverde and Weller, given that they have been doing exceptionally well the past few seasons.
Yeah agree none of these 3 are sure bets to make the grade it's a lottery overall happy with our picks , the only thing I'm not happy with was that with pick 12 our best we did not grab a ready made hard nut like Robinson for nicks in the trade period as I doubt any of these young guys are going to see any game time this year and probably little the next
Both Menadue & Ellis won't see much action next year, a combination of Weller & Blakely will almost certainly make an immediate impact. All things being equal, this would have tipped the scales for me, we are now officially in our premiership window, every year we spend developing players is another year down the gurglar with our A-team. Our pace deficit disorder will not be fixed next season, Menadue is still 10kg away from senior football, Drummond I'm not sold on, his disposal can be shoddy. Blair just better get a big name like Dangerfield or we'll be jogging on the spot. Port have strengthened their list, even Brisbane look to be making huge strides, and I loved their draft selections too. Based on our trading & recruiting I can't see how or where the improvement will come from.
Ellis has got good skills some said he was in the top bracket in that department it is a shame he was injured and could not show anything before the draft the other picks are all players with good pace even the big guy in the future Ellis is player to be feeding these pacy players with the ball how many make the cut well like every club we have to wait and see , our improvement will come from players like Lennon , Vlastuin hopefully McBean can show something Conca needs to show something this year he has been dragging his heels and some of the fringe players , but yes the young guys will not see any game time but still think we can improve ;)
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Haha Blaine Boekhurst supports the Blues just so you know :p
So does Reece McKenzie :(
Cannot believe we didn't pick him.
Blues butchered the draft in my opinion, both Boekhorst & DVR were a reach. The former was certain to be available at 28 and the latter was more of a third rounder. Laverde & Goddard would have been super picks at 19.
Word was Essendon would have taken Boekhorst at 20
Really? I heard that it was Collingwood & Freo interested, Essendon weren't in the picture.
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I back our recruiting staff to pick Ellis over Laverde and Weller, given that they have been doing exceptionally well the past few seasons.
Yeah agree none of these 3 are sure bets to make the grade it's a lottery overall happy with our picks , the only thing I'm not happy with was that with pick 12 our best we did not grab a ready made hard nut like Robinson for nicks in the trade period as I doubt any of these young guys are going to see any game time this year and probably little the next
Both Menadue & Ellis won't see much action next year, a combination of Weller & Blakely will almost certainly make an immediate impact. All things being equal, this would have tipped the scales for me, we are now officially in our premiership window, every year we spend developing players is another year down the gurglar with our A-team. Our pace deficit disorder will not be fixed next season, Menadue is still 10kg away from senior football, Drummond I'm not sold on, his disposal can be shoddy. Blair just better get a big name like Dangerfield or we'll be jogging on the spot. Port have strengthened their list, even Brisbane look to be making huge strides, and I loved their draft selections too. Based on our trading & recruiting I can't see how or where the improvement will come from.
Ellis has got good skills some said he was in the top bracket in that department it is a shame he was injured and could not show anything before the draft the other picks are all players with good pace even the big guy in the future Ellis is player to be feeding these pacy players with the ball how many make the cut well like every club we have to wait and see , our improvement will come from players like Lennon , Vlastuin hopefully McBean can show something Conca needs to show something this year he has been dragging his heels and some of the fringe players , but yes the young guys will not see any game time but still think we can improve ;)
None of those guys have pace, this is our glaring weakness. Next year we will be relying solely on Drummond and I can't see it to be honest. The two players I was really keen on were Cocky & Weller, the former was snapped up early but we missed a golden opportunity to get the next best option. I really hope Port, Geelong, Freo & Hawthorn don't increase the gap but I get the sense that this is happening.
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Haha Blaine Boekhurst supports the Blues just so you know :p
So does Reece McKenzie :(
Cannot believe we didn't pick him.
Blues butchered the draft in my opinion, both Boekhorst & DVR were a reach. The former was certain to be available at 28 and the latter was more of a third rounder. Laverde & Goddard would have been super picks at 19.
Word was Essendon would have taken Boekhorst at 20
Really? I heard that it was Collingwood & Freo interested, Essendon weren't in the picture.
Yep, it was always Carlton v Essendon. Thats why he had to go at 19 if Carlton wanted him that bad
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Haha Blaine Boekhurst supports the Blues just so you know :p
So does Reece McKenzie :(
Cannot believe we didn't pick him.
Blues butchered the draft in my opinion, both Boekhorst & DVR were a reach. The former was certain to be available at 28 and the latter was more of a third rounder. Laverde & Goddard would have been super picks at 19.
Word was Essendon would have taken Boekhorst at 20
Really? I heard that it was Collingwood & Freo interested, Essendon weren't in the picture.
Yep, it was always Carlton v Essendon. Thats why he had to go at 19 if Carlton wanted him that bad
Essendon win that little stoush, Laverde is a gun in the making.
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Haha Blaine Boekhurst supports the Blues just so you know :p
So does Reece McKenzie :(
Cannot believe we didn't pick him.
Blues butchered the draft in my opinion, both Boekhorst & DVR were a reach. The former was certain to be available at 28 and the latter was more of a third rounder. Laverde & Goddard would have been super picks at 19.
Word was Essendon would have taken Boekhorst at 20
Really? I heard that it was Collingwood & Freo interested, Essendon weren't in the picture.
Yep, it was always Carlton v Essendon. Thats why he had to go at 19 if Carlton wanted him that bad
Essendon win that little stoush, Laverde is a gun in the making.
Yeh it'll be interesting to see how it turns out. Boekhorst has so much upside also, and there'll be a reason why Laverde slipped.
Bully you say none have pace Menadue , Drummond and Reece finished 3rd 6th and 2nd in the 20m sprint test and Butler is quoted as being pacy with good lateral movement and how many did we win in row with no fast players ? yes we need some new fast players but you make it sound like we are snails :P
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Bully you say none have pace Menadue , Drummond and Reece finished 3rd 6th and 2nd in the 20m sprint test and Butler is quoted as being pacy with good lateral movement and how many did we win in row with no fast players ? yes we need some new fast players but you make it sound like we are snails :P
Not at ll, just commenting on our improvement next year. Menadue is a project of sorts, think Bob Murphy in his draft year and you get a sense of how scrawny he is. I like his selection but he will take time, my earlier comments were mainly referring to immediate impact and maximising our premiership window. Menadue should be ready in 2017, I expect Ellis to be ready in 2016, that's just the reality as I see it. Reece was a great pick, he's the one guy who stands to be a real win for the club if he knuckles down and does the hard yards, but like the others he's 2-3 years away. His speed isn't really relevant to this discussion either, he's a KP player who will be a lead-up forward.
For the record, these were my favoured picks -
12 - Weller
33 - Blakely
52 - Gore
67 - McGrath
77 - McKenzie
The first 3 are AFL ready, have good speed and have significant experience in the state leagues. Drummond ticks a lot of boxes but his disposal can be horrendous, over the many years I have been following football I've never come across such awful DE stats. His form in the VFL was a little better but in no way is he polished. Boom or bust, there will be no middle ground with Drummond.
McGrath is the one we missed and I predict Richmond, along with many other clubs will regret it. The only reason he slid so far was due to a wretched run with injury, he's an AIS boy and starred against Collingwood Reserves, Brisbane got one of the steals of the draft.
I rate our haul as a 7/10, I think we addressed some holes in the list but didn't get the best player at each selection. FJ is starting to build a team of clones with his first rounders and it is wearing thin, he is so risk averse that it's highly unlikely we'll ever see a Bontempelli or Fyfe whilst he's in charge, it's also an approach that will probably see clubs like Brisbane & the Doggies leap frog us in the very near future.
you're right Blakely is AFL ready, but my grandma is quicker than him lol. I'm stoked Freo picked him up, he certainly isn't quick though
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Bully you say none have pace Menadue , Drummond and Reece finished 3rd 6th and 2nd in the 20m sprint test and Butler is quoted as being pacy with good lateral movement and how many did we win in row with no fast players ? yes we need some new fast players but you make it sound like we are snails :P
Not at ll, just commenting on our improvement next year. Menadue is a project of sorts, think Bob Murphy in his draft year and you get a sense of how scrawny he is. I like his selection but he will take time, my earlier comments were mainly referring to immediate impact and maximising our premiership window. Menadue should be ready in 2017, I expect Ellis to be ready in 2016, that's just the reality as I see it. Reece was a great pick, he's the one guy who stands to be a real win for the club if he knuckles down and does the hard yards, but like the others he's 2-3 years away. His speed isn't really relevant to this discussion either, he's a KP player who will be a lead-up forward.
For the record, these were my favoured picks -
12 - Weller
33 - Blakely
52 - Gore
67 - McGrath
77 - McKenzie
The first 3 are AFL ready, have good speed and have significant experience in the state leagues. Drummond ticks a lot of boxes but his disposal can be horrendous, over the many years I have been following football I've never come across such awful DE stats. His form in the VFL was a little better but in no way is he polished. Boom or bust, there will be no middle ground with Drummond.
McGrath is the one we missed and I predict Richmond, along with many other clubs will regret it. The only reason he slid so far was due to a wretched run with injury, he's an AIS boy and starred against Collingwood Reserves, Brisbane got one of the steals of the draft.
I rate our haul as a 7/10, I think we addressed some holes in the list but didn't get the best player at each selection. FJ is starting to build a team of clones with his first rounders and it is wearing thin, he is so risk averse that it's highly unlikely we'll ever see a Bontempelli or Fyfe whilst he's in charge, it's also an approach that will probably see clubs like Brisbane & the Doggies leap frog us in the very near future.
Well that's the position we find ourselves in from giving up picks for slow mid age players in previous years but what's done is done we have addressed the problem but a bit late and doubt many young guys bar the obvious ones will walk into teams next year when you finish round about mid pack unless you trade for higher picks think it is a bit of a lottery anyway we have 1 pick left so you never know ;)
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you're right Blakely is AFL ready, but my grandma is quicker than him lol. I'm stoked Freo picked him up, he certainly isn't quick though
He's an inside mid so speed isn't critical, he's agile though and can side step out of trouble. He's about as athletic as Matt Crouch, who I rate as a player despite his athletic limitations. Like Crouch, Blakely can find the ball, he just has a knack for reading the play. He averaged 7 clearances a match at u/18 level, this was despite playing in a poor side. He's also a very nice height, he will slot in nicely.
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you're right Blakely is AFL ready, but my grandma is quicker than him lol. I'm stoked Freo picked him up, he certainly isn't quick though
He's an inside mid so speed isn't critical, he's agile though and can side step out of trouble. He's about as athletic as Matt Crouch, who I rate as a player despite his athletic limitations. Like Crouch, Blakely can find the ball, he just has a knack for reading the play. He averaged 7 clearances a match at u/18 level, this was despite playing in a poor side. He's also a very nice height, he will slot in nicely.
I know, I've seen heaps of him in the WAFL. Just you mentioned he was quick above, he isn't
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you're right Blakely is AFL ready, but my grandma is quicker than him lol. I'm stoked Freo picked him up, he certainly isn't quick though
He's an inside mid so speed isn't critical, he's agile though and can side step out of trouble. He's about as athletic as Matt Crouch, who I rate as a player despite his athletic limitations. Like Crouch, Blakely can find the ball, he just has a knack for reading the play. He averaged 7 clearances a match at u/18 level, this was despite playing in a poor side. He's also a very nice height, he will slot in nicely.
I know, I've seen heaps of him in the WAFL. Just you mentioned he was quick above, he isn't
Probably needed to clarify those comments, first 3 steps are quick, he can get out of traffic easily, he just doesn't get of of first gear like some others.
Great news, Ellis has stress fractures very similar to Scharenberg. Just what I wanted to hear one day after the draft.
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Great news, Ellis has stress fractures very similar to Scharenberg. Just what I wanted to hear one day after the draft.
Isn't he still fine to start preseason training?
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Great news, Ellis has stress fractures very similar to Scharenberg. Just what I wanted to hear one day after the draft.
Isn't he still fine to start preseason training?
He may need surgery, it's a wait and see approach. I simply cannot fathom this decision on so many counts, no wonder the rest of the competition were lukewarm on Ellis. I've got a bad feeling about this one and it's such an important draft for the RFC.
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Great news, Ellis has stress fractures very similar to Scharenberg. Just what I wanted to hear one day after the draft.
Isn't he still fine to start preseason training?
He may need surgery, it's a wait and see approach. I simply cannot fathom this decision on so many counts, no wonder the rest of the competition were lukewarm on Ellis. I've got a bad feeling about this one and it's such an important draft for the RFC.
Calm down Bully the chance he was going to play this season was slim anyway we are not talking about a mid age player just a kid , thinking back Cotchin had a very bad start as well just take a deep breath all will be fine :)
http://www.theherald.com.au/story/2726253/police-seek-corey-ellis-after-mosque-attack/?cs=12
Well this guy is off to a great start.
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http://www.theherald.com.au/story/2726253/police-seek-corey-ellis-after-mosque-attack/?cs=12
Well this guy is off to a great start.
Not even the same Corey Ellis m8.
At least the players we picked hadn't slandered the club.
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Well this guy is off to a great start.
Not even the same Corey Ellis m8.
At least the players we picked hadn't slandered the club.
It was obviously tongue-in-cheek as hes a Blurs supporter :p remember that time you bailed for GC?
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http://www.theherald.com.au/story/2726253/police-seek-corey-ellis-after-mosque-attack/?cs=12
Well this guy is off to a great start.
Not even the same Corey Ellis m8.
At least the players we picked hadn't slandered the club.
It was obviously tongue-in-cheek as hes a Blurs supporter :p remember that time you bailed for GC?
Good times. 8)
Settle bully. Ellis will be a star and you will have to pretend you don't like him the rest of his career haha
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http://www.theherald.com.au/story/2726253/police-seek-corey-ellis-after-mosque-attack/?cs=12
Well this guy is off to a great start.
Not even the same Corey Ellis m8.
At least the players we picked hadn't slandered the club.
Haha why you mad? :P
Tbf though, he is a blues supporter so I'd disappointed if he wasn't annoyed about our showerty performances.
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Settle bully. Ellis will be a star and you will have to pretend you don't like him the rest of his career haha
He is unlikely to be a star, he will be workmanlike much like Conca. This has all the hallmarks of Frank overlooking Heppell, he gets too fixated on a player and fails to see everything else going on around him. Ellis also may need surgery on the foot, that is reason enough to push him out of the picture. Freo snapped up Weller and more power to them, he will be the more accomplished player, of that I have no doubt.
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Settle bully. Ellis will be a star and you will have to pretend you don't like him the rest of his career haha
He is unlikely to be a star, he will be workmanlike much like Conca. This has all the hallmarks of Frank overlooking Heppell, he gets too fixated on a player and fails to see everything else going on around him. Ellis also may need surgery on the foot, that is reason enough to push him out of the picture. Freo snapped up Weller and more power to them, he will be the more accomplished player, of that I have no doubt.
I don't know how you can say that when he hasn't even played a game yet haha. They all start on the same page. Under 18s counts for nothing now. Was known that he was injured when we got him. If you hear FJs interview he basically says that the fact that he played a lot of the year injured and is one of the younger players in the draft made him attractive as he has a lot of upside.
Heppell is no excitement machine though. Just an honest hard working and smooth moving mid.
The jury is still out on Conca with me tbh but apart from him I've been extremely happy with recent picks.
I'll save my judgment on this draft until a couple of years pass by
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Settle bully. Ellis will be a star and you will have to pretend you don't like him the rest of his career haha
He is unlikely to be a star, he will be workmanlike much like Conca. This has all the hallmarks of Frank overlooking Heppell, he gets too fixated on a player and fails to see everything else going on around him. Ellis also may need surgery on the foot, that is reason enough to push him out of the picture. Freo snapped up Weller and more power to them, he will be the more accomplished player, of that I have no doubt.
I don't know how you can say that when he hasn't even played a game yet haha. They all start on the same page. Under 18s counts for nothing now. Was known that he was injured when we got him. If you hear FJs interview he basically says that the fact that he played a lot of the year injured and is one of the younger players in the draft made him attractive as he has a lot of upside.
Heppell is no excitement machine though. Just an honest hard working and smooth moving mid.
The jury is still out on Conca with me tbh but apart from him I've been extremely happy with recent picks.
I'll save my judgment on this draft until a couple of years pass by
Heppell is an AA mid, Conca is about the 6th best midfielder at the club, we butchered that decision however you look at it. I'm not writing Ellis off but with the other talent available at 12 this decision is baffling in the extreme. As for Weller, I've watched quite a few games both at u/18 level and against men and he he is the real deal, his upside is far greater than Ellis given he has speed and will really improve his inside credentials as he puts on weight. For all the lavish praise re. Ellis' kicking, Weller is the better of the two, his DE is elite, he can kick at full pace and he regularly hits the scoreboard. It speaks volumes that every other club was wary of recruiting a guy who has had an injury affected year, I think Frank has really reached on this occasion.
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Settle bully. Ellis will be a star and you will have to pretend you don't like him the rest of his career haha
He is unlikely to be a star, he will be workmanlike much like Conca. This has all the hallmarks of Frank overlooking Heppell, he gets too fixated on a player and fails to see everything else going on around him. Ellis also may need surgery on the foot, that is reason enough to push him out of the picture. Freo snapped up Weller and more power to them, he will be the more accomplished player, of that I have no doubt.
I don't know how you can say that when he hasn't even played a game yet haha. They all start on the same page. Under 18s counts for nothing now. Was known that he was injured when we got him. If you hear FJs interview he basically says that the fact that he played a lot of the year injured and is one of the younger players in the draft made him attractive as he has a lot of upside.
Heppell is no excitement machine though. Just an honest hard working and smooth moving mid.
The jury is still out on Conca with me tbh but apart from him I've been extremely happy with recent picks.
I'll save my judgment on this draft until a couple of years pass by
Heppell is an AA mid, Conca is about the 6th best midfielder at the club, we butchered that decision however you look at it. I'm not writing Ellis off but with the other talent available at 12 this decision is baffling in the extreme. As for Weller, I've watched quite a few games both at u/18 level and against men and he he is the real deal, his upside is far greater than Ellis given he has speed and will really improve his inside credentials as he puts on weight. For all the lavish praise re. Ellis' kicking, Weller is the better of the two, his DE is elite, he can kick at full pace and he regularly hits the scoreboard. It speaks volumes that every other club was wary of recruiting a guy who has had an injury affected year, I think Frank has really reached on this occasion.
You do realize that with all your protests about Ellis there is nothing surer than him being a star in 2 or 3 years ha ha :P
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Settle bully. Ellis will be a star and you will have to pretend you don't like him the rest of his career haha
He is unlikely to be a star, he will be workmanlike much like Conca. This has all the hallmarks of Frank overlooking Heppell, he gets too fixated on a player and fails to see everything else going on around him. Ellis also may need surgery on the foot, that is reason enough to push him out of the picture. Freo snapped up Weller and more power to them, he will be the more accomplished player, of that I have no doubt.
I don't know how you can say that when he hasn't even played a game yet haha. They all start on the same page. Under 18s counts for nothing now. Was known that he was injured when we got him. If you hear FJs interview he basically says that the fact that he played a lot of the year injured and is one of the younger players in the draft made him attractive as he has a lot of upside.
Heppell is no excitement machine though. Just an honest hard working and smooth moving mid.
The jury is still out on Conca with me tbh but apart from him I've been extremely happy with recent picks.
I'll save my judgment on this draft until a couple of years pass by
Heppell is an AA mid, Conca is about the 6th best midfielder at the club, we butchered that decision however you look at it. I'm not writing Ellis off but with the other talent available at 12 this decision is baffling in the extreme. As for Weller, I've watched quite a few games both at u/18 level and against men and he he is the real deal, his upside is far greater than Ellis given he has speed and will really improve his inside credentials as he puts on weight. For all the lavish praise re. Ellis' kicking, Weller is the better of the two, his DE is elite, he can kick at full pace and he regularly hits the scoreboard. It speaks volumes that every other club was wary of recruiting a guy who has had an injury affected year, I think Frank has really reached on this occasion.
You do realize that with all your protests about Ellis there is nothing surer than him being a star in 2 or 3 years ha ha :P
I hope he is, but I can't help but feel uneasy about this decision.
The new recruits.
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Looking good in yellow and black.
Straight to the weights room boys!
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Straight to the weights room boys!
+1
Menadue could rival McBean!
Drummond looks a decent size, Menadue has got hours in the weights room ahead of him :P
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Drummond looks a decent size, Menadue has got hours in the weights room ahead of him :P
Yep, Drummond and Butler aren't a bad size.
Menadue is very skinny and a long way off but look at Fletcher he is coming up to 400 games Tuck the the record holder both thin players
Nick O'Kearney and Gach Nyoun will be training with us. They're two members of the possible draft crop next year.
So we grabbed Jayden Short, Jason Castagna and Kane Lambert in the rookie draft.
Hopefully Lambert can make an impact next year, dominated in the VFL this year.
I'd expect Lambert to show enough to get a promotion at some point during the year.
Arnot will have to work hard to get his elevation and Tank will probably be there in case something goes wrong (LTI or something).
Don't think we'll see Short or Castagna for a year or two unless they really impress and go full Miles. :P
Short is a very smart pick-up, he suffered a fractured jaw and missed the u/18 carnival but he's a super smart user of the ball and has excellent speed & agility. Closest thing to Robbie Gray in the draft pool, he's also very adept on both sides of his body.
Lambert is a little gun, should have been selected last year but was overlooked for some reason. Plug & play and it indicates we are finally waking up to the talent in the state leagues.
Castagna is more of a speculative pick and will take time, but we are tageting speedy mids which is good. Good luck to the kid.
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Plug & play and it indicates we are finally waking up to the talent in the state leagues.
Think we probably did this last year as well, picking up Gordon and Lloyd after excellent SANFL/VFL seasons :P
Get on the Kane Lambert hype train before it's too late. 8)
Quote from: Toga on December 03, 2014, 12:23:56 PM
Quote from: Bully on December 03, 2014, 12:12:20 PM
Plug & play and it indicates we are finally waking up to the talent in the state leagues.
Think we probably did this last year as well, picking up Gordon and Lloyd after excellent SANFL/VFL seasons :P
Yes, I should have acknowledged that but prior to 2013 our only state league pick-up in 5 years was Nahas. The club is learning a trick or two about succeeding in the deep end of the draft.
Forgot to mention Stephenson but at 30 years of age he doesn't count.
Cotch has signed a 5 year contract extension
Quote from: Ricochet on December 04, 2014, 08:54:51 AM
Cotch has signed a 5 year contract extension
8) 8) 8) 8) 8)
Just need to get Rance and Dusty signed now
Quote from: Ricochet on December 04, 2014, 08:54:51 AM
Cotch has signed a 5 year contract extension
Brilliant news to wake up to! ;D
But was there any doubt?
Gotta say, even I'm kinda happy about this. Cotchin and Richmond go together like PB & J :p
Quote from: elephants on December 04, 2014, 10:11:57 AM
Gotta say, even I'm kinda happy about this. Cotchin and Richmond go together like PB & J :p
Like PowerBug and Jayman?
Quote from: Ricochet on December 04, 2014, 10:25:08 AM
Quote from: elephants on December 04, 2014, 10:11:57 AM
Gotta say, even I'm kinda happy about this. Cotchin and Richmond go together like PB & J :p
Like PowerBug and Jayman?
#FFscutestcouples2014
Quote from: elephants on December 04, 2014, 10:28:57 AM
Quote from: Ricochet on December 04, 2014, 10:25:08 AM
Quote from: elephants on December 04, 2014, 10:11:57 AM
Gotta say, even I'm kinda happy about this. Cotchin and Richmond go together like PB & J :p
Like PowerBug and Jayman?
#FFscutestcouples2014
Surely you two will win #FFscutestcouples2014 ?
Quote from: JROO8 on December 04, 2014, 10:32:35 AM
Quote from: elephants on December 04, 2014, 10:28:57 AM
Quote from: Ricochet on December 04, 2014, 10:25:08 AM
Quote from: elephants on December 04, 2014, 10:11:57 AM
Gotta say, even I'm kinda happy about this. Cotchin and Richmond go together like PB & J :p
Like PowerBug and Jayman?
#FFscutestcouples2014
Surely you two will win #FFscutestcouples2014 ?
Edit: Why was #FFscutestcouples not an Elxam award? :o
http://www.richmondfc.com.au/news/2014-12-04/the-2015-tiger-player-numbers
2015 playing numbers.
No. 1 - Chris Newman
No. 2 - Dylan Grimes
No. 3 - Brett Deledio
No. 4 - Dustin Martin
No. 5 - Brandon Ellis
No. 6 - Shaun Grigg
No. 7 - Matt Dea
No. 8 - Jack Riewoldt
No. 9 - Trent Cotchin
No. 10 - Shane Edwards
No. 11 - Jake Batchelor
No. 12 - David Astbury
No. 13 - Ricky Petterd
No. 14 - Bachar Houli
No. 15 - Chris Knights
No. 16 - Shaun Hampson
No. 17 - vacant
No. 18 - Alex Rance
No. 19 - Matt Thomas
No. 20 - Ivan Maric
No. 21 - vacant
No. 22 - Nathan Gordon
No. 23 - vacant
No. 24 - Ben Griffiths
No. 25 - Troy Chaplin
No. 26 - Anthony Miles
No. 27 - Sam Lloyd
No. 28 - Taylor Hunt
No. 29 - Tyrone Vickery
No. 30 - Reece Conca
No. 31 - Nick Vlastuin
No. 32 - Corey Ellis
No. 33 - Kamdyn McIntosh
No. 34 - Liam McBean
No. 35 - Ben Lennon
No. 36 - Matthew McDonough
No. 37 - Connor Menadue
No. 38 - Steven Morris
No. 39 - Nathan Drummond
No. 40 - Daniel Butler
No. 41 - Nathan Foley
No. 42 - Reece McKenzie
No. 43 - Todd Elton
No. 44 - Matt Arnot
No. 45 - Jayden Short
No. 46 - Jason Castagna
No. 47 - Ivan Soldo
No. 48 - Kane Lambert
Any glaring changes?
Quote from: JROO8 on December 04, 2014, 04:49:40 PM
Quote from: Toga on December 04, 2014, 04:46:22 PM
Any glaring changes?
Grodon to 22, Lloyd to 27
Yeah, my bad. I should have posted that.
I was too busy changing the dashes because of the copypasta bug.
Quote from: Nige on November 30, 2014, 09:54:03 AM
The new recruits.
(https://fbcdn-sphotos-e-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xaf1/v/t1.0-9/10801830_751579974889564_4169197569349595154_n.jpg?oh=47c2d8f2c4d91e76231c976282b00b0b&oe=55084460&__gda__=1426418641_66cd48f6d9a3aba14e2953c233586605)
Lol, this five makes Kayne Turner look like a summo wrestler.
Turner is skinnier then the lot of them
http://www.foxsports.com.au/afl/afl-premiership/patrick-dangerfield-on-richmonds-radar-after-tigers-sign-trent-cotchin-for-five-years/story-e6frf3e3-1227145182886
;)
Quote from: Toga on December 05, 2014, 09:48:23 PM
http://www.foxsports.com.au/afl/afl-premiership/patrick-dangerfield-on-richmonds-radar-after-tigers-sign-trent-cotchin-for-five-years/story-e6frf3e3-1227145182886
;)
Every club is, haha.
I know that we along with St.Kilda will have gaps in the salary cap for him, will be a huge bidding war if he chooses to leave the Crows. I think Geelong have some bargaining pieces in their favour and should be the early favourites from here.
It's just good to hear that after a quiet trade period the club is looking to recruit at the end of 2015 when there is going to be a really good pool of out-of-contract and FA players :)
Quote from: Toga on December 05, 2014, 10:53:19 PM
It's just good to hear that after a quiet trade period the club is looking to recruit at the end of 2015 when there is going to be a really good pool of out-of-contract and FA players :)
Do you know of other big names in the free agency pool?
Sloane, Hawkins, Shiel, JCameron, Treloar are all coming out of contract iirc
Danger is from Geelong way so you think they would be in the box seat as long as they can match the cash Sloane Shiel or Treloar would be very nice if not Danger :P
Shiel has connections with Choco and we tried to bring him in a few years ago. If he decided to leave I recon we will be one of the frontrunners to secure him.
Quote from: BigMac_93 on December 06, 2014, 02:26:26 PM
Shiel has connections with Choco and we tried to bring him in a few years ago. If he decided to leave I recon we will be one of the frontrunners to secure him.
If I was dating a coaches daughter at that age, I'd be trying to get to as far away as possible from him lol
Deledio a veteran next year! :o
Joins Foley and Newman on the vets list...
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2014-12-08/the-veterans-list
28 is pretty young for a veteran I guess they've relaxed the rules in recent years.
Yeah, new rules for next season - player needs to have been at the club for 10 years, no restrictions on age... Just makes him sound so old!!
Do it mean that he isn't on the list of 38 or the club gets extra salary for him, Foley and Newman?
Club gets to pay veterans a fixed amount outside of the salary cap (a bit over 100K iirc).
@Richmond_FC: Steve Morris has been added to Richmond's leadership group for season 2015 - http://t.co/H68KUwLGmL
What do you guys think of this?
Quote from: JROO8 on December 10, 2014, 07:05:03 PM
@Richmond_FC: Steve Morris has been added to Richmond's leadership group for season 2015 - http://t.co/H68KUwLGmL
What do you guys think of this?
Haha wow, I was literally on my way to thread to post this.
I don't mind it, particularly because it was the team that voted him in apparently.
Good on him, I'm sure the boys see him as setting an example of how to attack the ball and giving it your best. Might not be the most gifted bloke, but tries his heart out!
Haha too slow Nige :P
At the end of last year I would've thought it was a really good move, but he had a disappointing season this year, but that's not his fault.
I think he'll be a decent leader, he'll lead the way with his actions and how he attacks the ball.
Quote from: JROO8 on December 10, 2014, 07:55:04 PM
Haha too slow Nige :P
Like, when I looked at the forum index, there weren't any new posts in the board, but when I clicked on the board to post it, I saw a new post from you in this thread and was like "Damn it Jroo!"
Even though hes only been at the club for 3 seasons I believe he has shown excellent leadership qualities, and obviously the leadership group agrees with me.
Walked the club today during morning training, saw Chris Newman jogging and yelled out a "Hey Chris". Got a wave. :D
Quote from: Kellogscrunchynut on December 10, 2014, 09:34:49 PM
Even though hes only been at the club for 3 seasons I believe he has shown excellent leadership qualities, and obviously the leadership group agrees with me.
Good to know you're advising the leadership group on these matters. :P
Wears his heart on his sleeve and plays with the passion and determination that everyone should.
Very good decision imo.
Jaryd Cachia's gonna be playing for our VFL side in 2015.
Quote from: Nige on December 16, 2014, 06:47:16 PM
Jaryd Cachia's gonna be playing for our VFL side in 2015.
Is that the ex blues guy?
Quote from: Nige on December 16, 2014, 11:42:17 PM
Quote from: Kellogscrunchynut on December 16, 2014, 11:35:59 PM
Quote from: Nige on December 16, 2014, 06:47:16 PM
Jaryd Cachia's gonna be playing for our VFL side in 2015.
Is that the ex blues guy?
Yep.
Should turn out to be a decent pick up, hopefully he can use the little experience at AFL level to good use.
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2014-12-17/new-tiger-under-knife?utm_medium=RSS
COREY Ellis is expected to resume training in January, despite Richmond's first pick at last month's NAB AFL Draft needing foot surgery this week.
The No.12 pick missed the end of the TAC Cup season with a stress fracture in his foot, which also saw him sit out testing at the NAB AFL Draft Combine.
He was out of his protective moonboot in the lead-up to the draft and began jogging gradually, but was under advice from his surgeon that if any soreness persisted he may require an operation.
The club said the 18-year-old was not expected to be sidelined for long after Friday's procedure.
"In consultation with our medical team, we have decided that the best course of action is for Corey to have minor surgery on his foot," Richmond's football manager, Dan Richardson, told the club's website.
"We were fully aware of Corey's condition when we drafted him, and that a procedure might be required at some stage. While he will not be rushed back into full training, we expect a full recovery early in 2015."
The Tigers targeted Ellis for his class, decision-making and poise in the midfield after a consistent season with the Western Jets and Vic Metro at the NAB AFL Under-18 Championships.
Hope it doesn't become a recurring issue for him, perhaps he would have gone higher in the draft if he hadn't of injured his foot.
Whats the deal with Nathan Drummond I've noticed a few people putting him in their fantasy sides is he likely to get early games?
Quote from: Kellogscrunchynut on December 17, 2014, 11:34:46 AM
Hope it doesn't become a recurring issue for him, perhaps he would have gone higher in the draft if he hadn't of injured his foot.
Whats the deal with Nathan Drummond I've noticed a few people putting him in their fantasy sides is he likely to get early games?
I guess it's because he is a year older and probably has the body to start. Don't think that he will. But you never know.
Quote from: Pkbaldy on December 17, 2014, 01:28:20 PM
Quote from: Kellogscrunchynut on December 17, 2014, 11:34:46 AM
Hope it doesn't become a recurring issue for him, perhaps he would have gone higher in the draft if he hadn't of injured his foot.
Whats the deal with Nathan Drummond I've noticed a few people putting him in their fantasy sides is he likely to get early games?
I guess it's because he is a year older and probably has the body to start. Don't think that he will. But you never know.
ball magnet
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on December 17, 2014, 04:02:45 PM
Quote from: Pkbaldy on December 17, 2014, 01:28:20 PM
Quote from: Kellogscrunchynut on December 17, 2014, 11:34:46 AM
Hope it doesn't become a recurring issue for him, perhaps he would have gone higher in the draft if he hadn't of injured his foot.
Whats the deal with Nathan Drummond I've noticed a few people putting him in their fantasy sides is he likely to get early games?
I guess it's because he is a year older and probably has the body to start. Don't think that he will. But you never know.
ball magnet
He also shanks the ball a lot, definitely not the best decision maker out there, Neal-Bullen should be a lock for everyone.
Some interesting tidbits from the Club 80 function, we were torn on the Ellis/Laverde decision and selected Ellis due to superior disposal. Menadue was rated in the top 20 and we were stoked he was available, Neal-Bullen was rated extremely high and was a very close second to Conner. Reece McKenzie slid due to personality issues but has been likened to Stewart Loewe, Lambert has impressed everyone since being a Tiger and should do very well, Short has also impressed with his attitude and was rated alongside Ahern leading into the season, he then suffered a broken jaw and missed selection for Vic Metro. Taylor Hunt was a little withdrawn, hopefully adjusts to the new environment sooner rather than later.
Quote from: Nige on December 16, 2014, 06:47:16 PM
Jaryd Cachia's gonna be playing for our VFL side in 2015.
Boo
Guy is a pretty good player, he can butcher the ball at times but he can find the pill and is very good defensively. I was pretty pissed we let him go
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2014-12-19/astburys-body-of-work
We're going into 2015 with dual vice captains with Ivan joining Lids as Cotch's deputies.
Quote from: Nige on January 12, 2015, 05:27:22 PM
We're going into 2015 with dual vice captains with Ivan joining Lids as Cotch's deputies.
Great career turn around for the big fella. Glad we took a chance on him and well deserved role as VC
Yeah good choice, reckon Ivan will be a great leader.
Been a leader since the day he set foot in the club, glad he is getting official recognition for it.
Deledio, Jroo, Rance and Edwards are elite according to Champion Data.
Good to see Shedwards get some recognition, but where's Cotch? :o
Quote from: JROO8 on January 15, 2015, 02:54:27 PM
Deledio, Jroo, Rance and Edwards are elite according to Champion Data.
Good to see Shedwards get some recognition, but where's Cotch? :o
I can believe that.
Can't see how Edwards is elite, not knocking on him though.
Quote from: Kellogscrunchynut on January 15, 2015, 03:12:19 PM
Can't see how Edwards is elite, not knocking on him though.
For his position (a small fwd who can push into midfield) he is. Seriously underrated IMO.
Good, I wouldn't say elite but CD have the stats I spose.
I don't know how they come up with that stuff. Would have thought Cotchin and Martin as a half forward/mid is elite in his position too.
Don't really care tbh I just want to see us have a big year and win a final or 2!
Quote from: JROO8 on January 15, 2015, 03:46:36 PM
Quote from: Kellogscrunchynut on January 15, 2015, 03:12:19 PM
Can't see how Edwards is elite, not knocking on him though.
For his position (a small fwd who can push into midfield) he is. Seriously underrated IMO.
Quote from: elephants on January 15, 2015, 03:48:14 PM
Good, I wouldn't say elite but CD have the stats I spose.
Big Griff playing up the ground a but more this year. Really excited for his season. Looks in ripping shape
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2015-01-28/tall-tiger-trimming-down
Quote from: quinny88 on January 28, 2015, 09:52:45 PM
Big Griff playing up the ground a but more this year. Really excited for his season. Looks in ripping shape
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2015-01-28/tall-tiger-trimming-down
I'm very very excited about Benny Griffiths this year, I think we've got a gem in him.
Quote from: Nige on January 28, 2015, 10:47:32 PM
Quote from: quinny88 on January 28, 2015, 09:52:45 PM
Big Griff playing up the ground a but more this year. Really excited for his season. Looks in ripping shape
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2015-01-28/tall-tiger-trimming-down
I'm very very excited about Benny Griffiths this year, I think we've got a gem in him.
Yeah he really came on in the back half of last year
another good NDT boy :P
I reckon he'll win an NDT premiership before he wins a premiership with the Tiges ;) #banter
Quote from: elephants on January 29, 2015, 01:38:11 PM
I reckon he'll win an NDT premiership before he wins a premiership with the Tiges ;) #banter
He can carry the Richmond team, but not the NDT one. :P
Quote from: elephants on January 29, 2015, 01:38:11 PM
I reckon he'll win an NDT premiership before he wins a premiership with the Tiges ;) #banter
sooo next year? #notbanter
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2015-01-30/jobe-the-second?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter
DUSTIN Martin will be challenged to take his midfield game to a new level in 2015 and become like Jobe Watson, Richmond coach Damien Hardwick says.
After an impressive third finish in the best and fairest, Martin is entering his sixth AFL season having added attacking weapons to his repertoire.
In the Tigers' run to the finals the 23-year-old became a match winner more than once when pushed forward to win crucial contests.
While Hardwick wants Martin to remain an explosive option inside 50 this season, he says it's time he became a midfield force much like the Essendon skipper on a more permanent basis.
"We think his running capacity has really improved over the course of his pre-seasons he's had with us, and we feel for him to take that next step as a player it's going to be the majority of him playing midfield," Hardwick told AFL.com.au.
"He needs to become a contested ball king, a tackle king in that area, much like a Jobe Watson type of player that's capable of setting up the game from the middle of the ground.
"We look forward to giving him that opportunity."
annnnd Dusty just replaced Goddard
Quote from: Ricochet on January 30, 2015, 03:31:25 PM
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2015-01-30/jobe-the-second?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter
DUSTIN Martin will be challenged to take his midfield game to a new level in 2015 and become like Jobe Watson, Richmond coach Damien Hardwick says.
After an impressive third finish in the best and fairest, Martin is entering his sixth AFL season having added attacking weapons to his repertoire.
In the Tigers' run to the finals the 23-year-old became a match winner more than once when pushed forward to win crucial contests.
While Hardwick wants Martin to remain an explosive option inside 50 this season, he says it's time he became a midfield force much like the Essendon skipper on a more permanent basis.
"We think his running capacity has really improved over the course of his pre-seasons he's had with us, and we feel for him to take that next step as a player it's going to be the majority of him playing midfield," Hardwick told AFL.com.au.
"He needs to become a contested ball king, a tackle king in that area, much like a Jobe Watson type of player that's capable of setting up the game from the middle of the ground.
"We look forward to giving him that opportunity."
annnnd Dusty just replaced Goddard
110 avg coming up. Comes into my side for one of Goddard or Deledio
Been in my side since day 1
61 days, 1 hour, 33 minutes, 35 seconds boys.
Quote from: Vinny on January 31, 2015, 05:44:30 PM
61 days, 1 hour, 33 minutes, 35 seconds boys.
Can't believe you're looking forward to losing so much. :o
Quote from: Nige on January 31, 2015, 05:49:32 PM
Quote from: Vinny on January 31, 2015, 05:44:30 PM
61 days, 1 hour, 33 minutes, 35 seconds boys.
Can't believe you're looking forward to losing so much. :o
+1 aren't you guys rebuilding?
The only thing I can garuntee about round 1 is that Richmind will build a 5 goal lead only to stuff it up and have it taken away and either just win or just lose. Last 4 or 5 times we've played this has happened iirc. Gives me a heart attack every time
True Quinny the play like cellar dwellers against everyone else, but against us they play like they're capable of finals footy.
Quote from: Kellogscrunchynut on February 02, 2015, 11:51:49 AM
True Quinny the play like cellar dwellers against everyone else, but against us they play like they're capable of finals footy.
This, yeah we'll probably lose given you guys are playing for Top 6 whilst we will be satisfied with Top 11th. But that means flower all when we play each other. Anything can happen. Surely you guys have learned that. :P
Quote from: Vinny on February 02, 2015, 07:32:21 PM
Quote from: Kellogscrunchynut on February 02, 2015, 11:51:49 AM
True Quinny the play like cellar dwellers against everyone else, but against us they play like they're capable of finals footy.
This, yeah we'll probably lose given you guys are playing for Top 6 whilst we will be satisfied with Top 11th. But that means flower all when we play each other. Anything can happen. Surely you guys have learned that. :P
Far too well for my liking.
It's because they know they're never out of the game against us.
Only ever a quick goal or 2 from a momentum swing
Yeeeep, that 2013 Elimination Final is my favourite game ever.
Rance putting off contract talks till the end of the season.
I don't think he will go anywhere but this is just going to be an annoying distraction for the club all year, even though they say it won't be
How many years has he got left?
Quote from: Kellogscrunchynut on February 06, 2015, 11:45:31 AM
How many years has he got left?
Out of contract at end of the season.
Highly doubt he'll move since both his parents and sister relocated to Melbourne from Perth during his time here but there's always that doubt when they put off talks until end of the year.
Rance talking about his contract situation. flower all really but at least he's not hiding from it. I wouldn't be too concerned if I was a richmond fan
http://www.afl.com.au/video/2015-02-10/alex-rance-breaks-contract-silence
Do you guys think Taylor Hunt will get games and if so what role will he play in the side?
(considering for supercoach)
Quote from: Money Shot on February 12, 2015, 07:53:21 AM
Do you guys think Taylor Hunt will get games and if so what role will he play in the side?
(considering for supercoach)
He's best 22. He'll either run off half back or play on the wing. There's a fairly good chance that he'll end up being our tagger/run-with player, don't pick him.
There's an interview on the richmond website with him and he says that he's been training with the midfield group and they are looking to free him up a bit. Still not a player I would pick but may increase his average. Definitely think he's best 22
He'll be around the bench and emergencies in the best 22-25.
Jaryd Cachia has been named captain of our VFL side for 2015.
Quote from: Nige on February 13, 2015, 05:56:53 PM
Jaryd Cachia has been captain of our VFL side for 2015.
Good to hear - He would be stoked with that
Quote from: Kellogscrunchynut on February 12, 2015, 05:24:51 PM
He'll be around the bench and emergencies in the best 22-25.
Yeah, I'm thinking left back. .................... probably at the clubrooms.
Quote from: Nige on February 13, 2015, 05:56:53 PM
Jaryd Cachia has been captain of our VFL side for 2015.
Do we still have Aaron Davey in the reserves side?
Quote from: Kellogscrunchynut on February 14, 2015, 12:22:20 AM
Quote from: Nige on February 13, 2015, 05:56:53 PM
Jaryd Cachia has been captain of our VFL side for 2015.
Do we still have Aaron Davey in the reserves side?
Can't find our VFL list for 2015 anywhere, not even sure if it's even finalised. When I find it, I'll probably post it.
Apparently Dusty has just signed a 2yr extension. Well done boys
Quote from: Ricochet on February 17, 2015, 06:44:31 PM
Apparently Dusty has just signed a 2yr extension. Well done boys
Do you know how much he's getting per season?
Quote from: Kellogscrunchynut on February 17, 2015, 06:47:21 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on February 17, 2015, 06:44:31 PM
Apparently Dusty has just signed a 2yr extension. Well done boys
Do you know how much he's getting per season?
What ever it took that is one distraction out of the way :)
Quote from: Kellogscrunchynut on February 17, 2015, 06:47:21 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on February 17, 2015, 06:44:31 PM
Apparently Dusty has just signed a 2yr extension. Well done boys
Do you know how much he's getting per season?
Everyone is saying 600k mate
Quote from: Kellogscrunchynut on February 17, 2015, 06:47:21 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on February 17, 2015, 06:44:31 PM
Apparently Dusty has just signed a 2yr extension. Well done boys
Do you know how much he's getting per season?
About tree fiddy.
http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/dustin-martin-sign-two-year-contract-extension-to-remain-at-richmond-until-end-of-2017/story-fni5f9jb-1227223146809
RICHMOND has locked away superstar midfielder Dustin Martin on a new two-year deal.
Martin, 23, put pen to paper at Punt Rd yesterday, tying him to the club until the end of 2017.
The signing leaves all-Australian defender Alex Rance as the only out-of-contract big-name Tiger after skipper Trent Cotchin committed for five more years late last year.
he club been massive for me,†Martin said last night.
Martin has played 109 games for the Tigers since being selected with pick No. 3 in the 2009 national draft behind Tom Scully and Jack Trengove.
He polled 13 Brownlow votes last season, finished third in the best and fairest and was named in the all-Australian squad.
It is the second two-year contract Martin has signed since his public fallout with the club at the end of 2013.
Richmond football boss Dan Richardson said Martin’s future at Tigerland was never in doubt, despite recent reports talks with the club were off.
“The discussions between the club and Ralph Carr Management were regular and amicable all the way through, and Dustin was always committed to continuing his career at Richmond,†Richardson said.
“It’s obviously great news, as Dustin is such a pivotal player in our plans for the future.
“Dustin’s development, both on and off the field, has been extremely impressive, and it’s exciting to think that at just 23, he still has scope for significant further improvement.
“Following a strong pre-season, we look forward to seeing him take another key step in his league career in 2015.â€
The cashed-up Tigers did not participate in last year’s trade period but are expected to make a serious play for a big-name free agent at the end of this season.
Adelaide free agent Patrick Dangerfield is the game’s biggest name to put off contract talks with his club, fuelling speculation he could be headed home to Victoria.
:-* 8) ;D
Quote from: Ricochet on February 17, 2015, 06:49:39 PM
Everyone is saying 600k mate
Decent amount glad he's not getting something outlandish.
Quote from: GoLions on February 17, 2015, 06:49:46 PM
About tree fiddy.
Dustin Martin is the Loch Ness monster confirmed.
Great signing for the Tiges!
Quote from: Ricochet on February 17, 2015, 06:50:29 PM
Adelaide free agent Patrick Dangerfield is the game’s biggest name to put off contract talks with his club, fuelling speculation he could be headed home to Victoria.
The media just can't help themselves can they? ::)
Quote from: TomK on February 17, 2015, 07:32:08 PM
Great signing for the Tiges!
Quote from: Ricochet on February 17, 2015, 06:50:29 PM
Adelaide free agent Patrick Dangerfield is the game’s biggest name to put off contract talks with his club, fuelling speculation he could be headed home to Victoria.
The media just can't help themselves can they? ::)
Boss says this article is a sentence short.
Just chuck in something about Dangerfield.
Now get Rance done and I'll be a happy man!
Whatever's left over is Dangers :P
In the Melbourne thread I put up training reports from bystanders at the session. There is no session today for us but one person did go and check out the Richmond session to compare. So I thought I'd chuck it up here for you all;
QuoteTraining wasn't on this morning, so because I have been to nearly every training session, went to the Tigers training this morning to compare notes, if you don't want to read just skip, will do as similar to my MFC reports
9 in rehab, including Martin and Petterd (surprise), Hampson was doing slow laps, he looked exhausted, but he gets to go to bed each night with Megan Gale so perhaps not that surprising
Similar ball movement drills involving lesser numbers, but strangely did not involve the ruck division
Also ball retention and movement by hand ball, there was a lot a waist grabbing and spinning type tackling, too much risk of head clashes for mine
The breaks between drills were longer than MFC, and one was particularly disorganised, coaches had to keep getting the numbers right
Hardwick and Williams sat high in the stand to watch the full field ball movement drill
Cotchin not very vocal which surprised me, compared to Dunn and Nathan Jones, Newman the most vocal
So much for Reiwoldt being a reformed character, in one drill he led and had the ball delivered to his feet which he mishandled, immediately stopped participating in the drill which went for about another 20 seconds, trudged back to sideline, think is was Ruttem who said "you can't get the lace out all the time Jack", to which Jack replied "not at my [censored] feet though",, couldn't see Roos wearing that behaviour
Rance and Vickery had a nice little tussle at the end that got quite willing
Cheers for that, don't really follow training sessions much. Just whatever is put up the Facebook page or gets out through Twitter. Some interesting points there, particularly those in the rehab group, didn't realise we had that many in there.
Lol this just sounds like a one eyed melbourne bloke thinking everything they do is better hahaha ::)
And Nige, the rehab group has a lot in being monitored with soreness. No serious injuries.
Would have nearly a full list to pick from it were tound 1 tommorow which is really good.
Quote from: quinny88 on February 18, 2015, 01:48:54 PM
And Nige, the rehab group has a lot in being monitored with soreness. No serious injuries.
Would have nearly a full list to pick from it were tound 1 tommorow which is really good.
That's what I thought, hadn't heard anyone having anything overly serious which is why I was surprised by the number.
Don't shoot the messenger haha.
Quote from: Barra13 on February 18, 2015, 01:55:10 PM
Don't shoot the messenger haha.
Haha it's all good I just couldn't help but laugh at every sentence having a negative ;D
On another note, I heard Richmond are running with an under 23's type team in the first nab challenge.
Good chance to see what some of the new kids are like. I might make the trip down to the old written oval and have a look at that!
Quote from: quinny88 on February 18, 2015, 01:46:45 PM
Lol this just sounds like a one eyed melbourne bloke thinking everything they do is better hahaha ::)
I lol'd :p
http://www.richmondfc.com.au/news/2015-02-20/riewoldt-stars-in-match-practice
Riewoldt stars in match practiceQuoteDeledio, who has been managing Achilles soreness, completed the session and was untroubled, along with Reece Conca, who has been on the comeback from a knee injury.
Dustin Martin, who this week signed a two-year contract extension, was dominant through the midfield.
Pleasingly for the Club, the players emerged unscathed from the match on the injury front.
Beanie kicked 3, get around him! 8)
Good to hear Lambert's doing well too.
Oh and I'm glad Conca shaved off the beard, it was filthy.
Did Drummond get a gig?
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2015-03-17/heart-blip-for-newman
The club revealed on Tuesday that the veteran defender had experienced "some discomfort" at training recently, which saw him have tests that confirmed a cardiac arrhythmia.
The 32-year-old has met with a specialist, and will have a procedure to correct the issue.
"Chris has seen a cardiologist specialising in this area, and he has confirmed that the diagnosis is a relatively benign one," the club's football manager, Dan Richardson, said on the Richmond website.
"However, the decision has been made to rectify the situation with a procedure to eliminate the trigger of the abnormal cardiac rhythm."
It is a frustrating interruption for the Tigers and Newman, who heads into his 15th AFL season with 251 games to his name. The club hopes the concern will not keep their former captain out for too long in the home and away season.
"The procedure is relatively straightforward and has been done successfully in many high level athletes, including AFL footballers," Richardson said.
"We are expecting that Chris will be off training for a couple of weeks, and then should be able to resume full training, and play soon after."
Richmond will play North Melbourne on Saturday in the third round of the NAB Challenge after some encouraging pre-season form, in its final hit-out before meeting Carlton on April 2.
Fuark, that's no good. Hopefully it all goes well for him and he's out on the park sooner rather than later. He's still got it and his leadership and presence is insane, we really do need him in what probably is his final year.
It's Richo's 40th birthday today! :o 8)
Happy birthday to the legend. ;D
Quote from: Nige on March 19, 2015, 11:46:24 AM
It's Richo's 40th birthday today! :o 8)
Happy birthday to the legend. ;D
He'd be drunk by now.
The Herald Sun decided to whip up an article about Dusty's new haircut. #newsworthy
Quote from: Nige on March 20, 2015, 09:21:31 PM
The Herald Sun decided to whip up an article about Dusty's new haircut. #newsworthy
Sounds like their territory.