Poll
Question:
How will Bennell react to this suspension and should I keep him ?? ??
Option 1: Trade Bennell out and forget him
votes: 10
Option 2: Hold until after his suspension and see what happens
votes: 36
For those who own him, what do we do with him?
With scores of 96 & 94 he's delivering what we paid for, or maybe slightly under. Is this a good sign considering he HASNT been very good and can only go up?
Quite a contrast to Dustys 140 odd and 50 :P
Thoughts?
Got him and wouldn't be trading him ... Has played poor in both to be honest and somehow is scoring 90+ ... Will improve I think
Quote from: eaglesman on April 13, 2015, 10:51:09 PM
Got him and wouldn't be trading him ... Has played poor in both to be honest and somehow is scoring 90+ ... Will improve I think
+1
x3
You have to be stoked with a 94 and 96 in losing teams. Bennell is the type of player that will score alot higher in winning teams then losing ones so if hes doing good in losing sides then you should be cheering.
and the last huge game I remember him playing was against the Cats. Just remember he will have Jed Bews probably playing on him this weekend.....
in match he has been horrible, i actually laughed when he got 90+ on the weekend. He has been well below his best, so im very happy with him in my team
I have him, and am very happy considering how bad the Suns and Bennell has played so far. Will average over 100
Quote from: Woppa15 on April 13, 2015, 10:56:16 PM
Quote from: eaglesman on April 13, 2015, 10:51:09 PM
Got him and wouldn't be trading him ... Has played poor in both to be honest and somehow is scoring 90+ ... Will improve I think
+1
Jesus trading a bloke for getting 90s is keen, hes played like a dog as well. Once the Suns get Rockets game plan he will dominate especially with Ablett out, more midfield time.
:'( >:( ::)
Love the way this guy plays and he could be anything, and is definitely very SC friendly. If he weren't suffering from "elephantitis" of the head, he'd be one of the best going around IMO. I just can't throw off the feeling that he'll crack a hissy fit while he's suspended and just go through the motions when he comes back rather than give it a red hot go. Now that GC have been connected with the idea of trading him I feel that he'll drop off a bit. What part of my brain that is functioning is saying hold, wait and see. Currently rated 1831 and projected (means SFA in reality} to score 2300 with him on the bench. Yet that part of me that wants to give the overall a shake says "trade". Could do with some help guys as I am totally stuffed on this one, feel that whichever way I go will be wrong but that to do nothing would be wrong too. Cheers and thanks in anticipation. Should be several others in the same "Bennell Boat" :-\
I can't see where his motivation will come from at least until GAZ comes back
The problem with predicting his next game is even Harley doesn't know which Harley will rock up on the day.
He gets a week off as a 'slap on the wrist' GCS can't afford for him to be out for any longer, 5 years in and people are beginning to qquestion their lack of success... They need to prove they aren't a 1-man team (yes I know they have plenty out, but their record without GAJ is putrid)
Hold.80s and 90s pretty good for an unpredictable talent
???
Please place a vote everybody. :'(
Don't trade him. Absolutely mental. Exact trades like this that people regret every year.
It is concerning, no doubt. But give him a proper go after his highest score of the year.
Make this decision once ur team is complete
Quote from: HotTiges on May 06, 2015, 12:52:12 PM
Hold.80s and 90s pretty good for an unpredictable talent
I have him as well it's only a week onto the bench ;)
Quote from: Dayze on May 06, 2015, 01:12:21 PM
Don't trade him. Absolutely mental. Exact trades like this that people regret every year.
It is concerning, no doubt. But give him a proper go after his highest score of the year.
Make this decision once ur team is complete
This makes sense. :)
Should I trade out my forward averaging 101?
hmmmm.
Is the idea of entertaining a trade, just heresay? Because I can't seem to find anything that's written in quotation whatsoever.
Agree he has to pick us his game, but I think he will, he has never been done or suspended over any off field incidents before this and I think this just might embarrass him and spur him on now that it's been made aware that it's either the team first principle or he can get out. Love the approach of Eade, and it does suck for SC but he will be back next week to prove a point, and I'm certain about that.
Quote from: HotTiges on May 06, 2015, 12:52:12 PM
Hold.80s and 90s pretty good for an unpredictable talent
Er, he's not. He's holding a 0 this week.
Quote from: batt on May 06, 2015, 05:02:44 PM
Should I trade out my forward averaging 101?
hmmmm.
You barrack for GC Batt, how do you think he'll come back ?? ??
Is he in your team ?? ??
Quote from: Sabretooth Tigers on May 06, 2015, 07:08:40 PM
You barrack for GC Batt, how do you think he'll come back ?? ??
Is he in your team ?? ??
I am possibly the most casual Suns supporter in the world, I don't really follow anyone any more but I do like the Suns a lot.
Anyway, yeah I do have Harley. It sounds like it was a pretty big gaffe from what I've read. There's absolutely no knowing how he'll score when he comes back, but he can't be in the kennel for long because the team desperately needs him. I don't see him cracking over this. The suspension is completely justified and there'd be no resistance to it.
You have to keep him, there's absolutely no way 60 points lost (at most) is worth trading for. You can make far bigger gains on overall later down the line when you have that extra trade. Re-evaluate in a fortnight's time if you still have the same concerns.
Quote from: batt on May 06, 2015, 07:36:32 PM
Quote from: Sabretooth Tigers on May 06, 2015, 07:08:40 PM
You barrack for GC Batt, how do you think he'll come back ?? ??
Is he in your team ?? ??
I am possibly the most casual Suns supporter in the world, I don't really follow anyone any more but I do like the Suns a lot.
Anyway, yeah I do have Harley. It sounds like it was a pretty big gaffe from what I've read. There's absolutely no knowing how he'll score when he comes back, but he can't be in the kennel for long because the team desperately needs him. I don't see him cracking over this. The suspension is completely justified and there'd be no resistance to it.
You have to keep him, there's absolutely no way 60 points lost (at most) is worth trading for. You can make far bigger gains on overall later down the line when you have that extra trade. Re-evaluate in a fortnight's time if you still have the same concerns.
:)
Thanks heaps batt, was never going to trade him. Was just extremely pissed off it happened when I was climbing the overall ladder and starting to get a bit out of my team. Will only trade this week if I have a long term injury. Picked Harley as a keeper so he stays unless something unforeseen happens. Best of luck mate and thanks for the help. Cheers. ;)
Umm you guys realise he was suspended in the pre-season for the same thing right?
But trading him is just plain stupid
Quote from: Mat0369 on May 06, 2015, 11:54:32 PM
Umm you guys realise he was suspended in the pre-season for the same thing right?
But trading him is just plain stupid
and he used to play up as a kid before he got drafted too.
Trade him to the Eagles pls
I'm pretty sure he is out for 1 week. Fella is POD, would be a bad choice to trade him just for 1 week. This is why you have bench cover.
Quote from: Ricochet on May 07, 2015, 10:57:42 AM
Quote from: Mat0369 on May 06, 2015, 11:54:32 PM
Umm you guys realise he was suspended in the pre-season for the same thing right?
But trading him is just plain stupid
and he used to play up as a kid before he got drafted too.
So he enjoys a drink - any other off-field issues to speak of though?
Quote from: Big Mac on May 08, 2015, 12:11:14 AM
So he enjoys a drink - any other off-field issues to speak of though?
KHunt was his mentor
Quote from: Big Mac on May 08, 2015, 12:11:14 AM
Quote from: Ricochet on May 07, 2015, 10:57:42 AM
Quote from: Mat0369 on May 06, 2015, 11:54:32 PM
Umm you guys realise he was suspended in the pre-season for the same thing right?
But trading him is just plain stupid
and he used to play up as a kid before he got drafted too.
So he enjoys a drink - any other off-field issues to speak of though?
Not 100% any more but he wasn't quite a Dayle Garlett level, but still had a crack
http://www.perthnow.com.au/sport/afl/harley-bennell-tried-to-fight-herald-suns-mark-robinson-at-brownlow-medal-count/story-fniv6860-1227345889900?utm_content=SocialFlow&utm_campaign=EditorialSF&utm_source=PerthNow&utm_medium=Twitter
HERALD Sun chief football writer Mark Robinson says suspended Gold Coast Suns midfielder Harley Bennell tried to fight him at last year’s Brownlow Medal count.
The Suns suspended Bennell this week, along with teammates Trent McKenzie and Brandon Matera, after they breached team drinking rules by drinking on Sunday afternoon.
Robinson, speaking on SEN, said he’d seen the alcohol problem at the Suns first-hand when Bennell aggressively approached him during the 2014 Brownlow ceremony.
“One of the players who were suspended wanted to fight me at last year’s Brownlow Medal,†Robinson said.
McKenzie and Matera weren’t invited to the count.
“I’m out on the balcony having a dart and talking with Jonathan Brown and he (Bennell) came up and had a crack.â€
“You know what he said? He said, ‘you think you know everything’.
Jonathan Brown stepped in to defuse the situation, but Bennell returned later and tried to remonstrate with Robinson a second time.
“Then Campbell Brown came out ... and he comes back again, Harley, and he has another crack,†Robinson recalled.
This time Brown â€" Bennell’s former teammate â€" was forced to intervene to prevent the confrontation from escalating.
“Campbell says, ‘he gets loose sometimes’ â€" coming from Campbell Brown,†Robinson said.
“He (Bennell) was just a little bit intoxicated.â€
He does sound like a bit of a knob
Drinking again?!?
Don't think I'll risk it despite his recent output.
Quote from: colmullet on May 08, 2015, 11:28:11 AM
He does sound like a bit of a knob
Yep, Robbo is a knob!
Not that i condone violence but it's a shame he didn't give him a crack, would be doing us all a favour :P
When it comes to Robbo, I reckon he's half-snockered most nights on his footy show. He's no more an expert on AFL footy than most of the guys on this site. Don't like him much and don't agree with much of what he has to say. Harley should have hauled off and let him have one.
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2015-05-10/around-the-state-leagues-how-your-clubs-players-fared-in-the-weekends-second-tier
QuoteBennell had 40 touches, kicked two goals and had 10 clearances to be the best player on the ground as the Suns defeated Southport by 14 points.
Nice, now stay of the beers dickhead and produce similar numbers this week against your future team (maybe without the goals).
Quote from: Mat0369 on May 11, 2015, 02:27:47 PM
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2015-05-10/around-the-state-leagues-how-your-clubs-players-fared-in-the-weekends-second-tier
QuoteBennell had 40 touches, kicked two goals and had 10 clearances to be the best player on the ground as the Suns defeated Southport by 14 points.
On a side note from that article. Jack steele got mention. Been playing well apparently
40 touches, 2 goals, 10 clearances, BOG, kid is a jet.
And who said, he wouldn't try?
I am bringing him in this week ...
Too risky?
Going for overall still (59th)
Quote from: Money Shot on May 14, 2015, 07:21:20 PM
I am bringing him in this week ...
Too risky?
Going for overall still (59th)
Not at all mate, I have him in and have been very very happy with him (apart from last week)
Has sooo much talent and has been on the verge of exploding, and with all the injuries at GC this could be the year he finally goes 105+ and I think he will
Quote from: Money Shot on May 14, 2015, 07:21:20 PM
I am bringing him in this week ...
Too risky?
Going for overall still (59th)
Would rather Gray or Goddard but assuming you have them already if you are ranked 59th
Go for it
Quote from: Big Mac on May 14, 2015, 07:23:51 PM
Quote from: Money Shot on May 14, 2015, 07:21:20 PM
I am bringing him in this week ...
Too risky?
Going for overall still (59th)
Would rather Gray or Goddard but assuming you have them already if you are ranked 59th
Go for it
Have Gray and I will get Goddard in next but think Bennell is going to go up and up from here on end and was just hoping you guys would boost my confidence :P
Just looked at his fixture and up until his bye he has
West Coast, Collingwood, Hawthorn, Sydney, Freo, Carlton .....
He has had easier opponents until now ...
Will this hinder his scoring?
Scores against opponents since his first year of 95+ scoring
WCE - 77, 73, 123, 103 avg (94)
Coll - 110, 75, 97 avg (94)
Hawks - 76, 96, 101 avg (91)
Syd - 100, 51, 68, 65 avg (71)
Freo - 141, 62 avg (101.5)
Carl - 99, 132, 61 avg (96.7)
Not overly impressive, but apart from Sydney, surprisingly consistent
Quote from: _wato on May 14, 2015, 07:39:04 PM
Scores against opponents since his first year of 95+ scoring
WCE - 77, 73, 123, 103 avg (94)
Coll - 110, 75, 97 avg (94)
Hawks - 76, 96, 101 avg (91)
Syd - 100, 51, 68, 65 avg (71)
Freo - 141, 62 avg (101.5)
Carl - 99, 132, 61 avg (96.7)
Not overly impressive, but apart from Sydney, surprisingly consistent
Cheers mate!!!
This is great and I think I will take a 90 avg for the time being anyways :)
Now missing his 3rd game for the year and has the bye next week, is it worth a luxury trade to grab a similar priced forward? I'm not concerned with his scoring output but these continual outs are really starting to hurt especially around the byes
Quote from: lukebomber on June 11, 2015, 07:29:01 PM
Now missing his 3rd game for the year and has the bye next week, is it worth a luxury trade to grab a similar priced forward? I'm not concerned with his scoring output but these continual outs are really starting to hurt especially around the byes
And even when he does play he butchers the ball. No consistency!
Happy I offloaded him to Buddy last week - knew he'd miss this week as there's no point playing him with the bye next week.
Seems to have paid off so far with Buddy's 121 and Bennell scoring 0
Will be a massive POD after the bye now.
Holding because I have other things to deal with.
Quote from: Frozensage on June 11, 2015, 07:38:57 PM
Quote from: lukebomber on June 11, 2015, 07:29:01 PM
Now missing his 3rd game for the year and has the bye next week, is it worth a luxury trade to grab a similar priced forward? I'm not concerned with his scoring output but these continual outs are really starting to hurt especially around the byes
And even when he does play he butchers the ball. No consistency!
His scores this year: 96, 94, 84, 85, 146, 72, 120, 74
Pretty dam consistent..
Quote from: batt on June 11, 2015, 08:08:23 PM
Will be a massive POD after the bye now.
Holding because I have other things to deal with.
+1
6.4% of teams. That is absolutely insane.
Jasper Pittard's in more teams FFS.
Quote from: batt on June 21, 2015, 08:25:44 PM
6.4% of teams. That is absolutely insane.
Jasper Pittard's in more teams FFS.
Why is it? He's missed the last 3 weeks (including the bye) with injury, plus another game out due to off field issues. He's ubreliable and although he has immense talent which is why I had him, he just isn't intelligent and makes the wrong decisions.
And he butchers the pill soooo often, which happens his ability to score really well every week. Just a frustrating player to own really, and you don't know which Harley will turn up every week
Quote from: _wato on June 21, 2015, 08:37:37 PM
Why is it? He's missed the last 3 weeks (including the bye) with injury, plus another game out due to off field issues. He's ubreliable and although he has immense talent which is why I had him, he just isn't intelligent and makes the wrong decisions.
And he butchers the pill soooo often, which happens his ability to score really well every week. Just a frustrating player to own really, and you don't know which Harley will turn up every week
I agree, but as you alluded to, on talent alone he should be in 20% of teams. It isn't beyond him to average 110 from here on out, he's just that good.
I'm very surprised so many jumped ship on him knowing that he's going to be a roller-coaster player. I think it's only up from here.
As a fwd he is fine as F6
Quote from: batt on June 21, 2015, 08:25:44 PM
6.4% of teams. That is absolutely insane.
Jasper Pittard's in more teams FFS.
I'm happy to be part of the 6.4% group, although it does sound more like the alcohol content of my Cooper's Stout . . . wait let me check . . . . . . . ahh, close 6.3% ;D
I've had him from the start and intend to keep him
I think you summed it up to a tee, Wato.
Would prefer Lid if he wasn't so expensive
Quote from: _wato on June 21, 2015, 08:37:37 PM
Quote from: batt on June 21, 2015, 08:25:44 PM
6.4% of teams. That is absolutely insane.
Jasper Pittard's in more teams FFS.
Why is it? He's missed the last 3 weeks (including the bye) with injury, plus another game out due to off field issues. He's ubreliable and although he has immense talent which is why I had him, he just isn't intelligent and makes the wrong decisions.
And he butchers the pill soooo often, which happens his ability to score really well every week. Just a frustrating player to own really, and you don't know which Harley will turn up every week
I'm just going to throw in my 2 cents. As a Bennell owner it's been a bit frustrating for sure because i feel like he hasn't been playing at his best... but he always seems to get a decent score somehow. I'm pretty sure champion data just like him haha.
Quote from: batt on June 21, 2015, 08:43:51 PM
Quote from: _wato on June 21, 2015, 08:37:37 PM
Why is it? He's missed the last 3 weeks (including the bye) with injury, plus another game out due to off field issues. He's ubreliable and although he has immense talent which is why I had him, he just isn't intelligent and makes the wrong decisions.
And he butchers the pill soooo often, which happens his ability to score really well every week. Just a frustrating player to own really, and you don't know which Harley will turn up every week
I agree, but as you alluded to, on talent alone he should be in 20% of teams. It isn't beyond him to average 110 from here on out, he's just that good.
I'm very surprised so many jumped ship on him knowing that he's going to be a roller-coaster player. I think it's only up from here.
Well it's a good thing CD don't hand out points on talent alone, then.
Quote from: H1bb3i2d on June 23, 2015, 12:04:25 AM
Well it's a good thing CD don't hand out points on talent alone, then.
Are you suggesting Harley should change his last name to Bennellempelli?
He is also only young and playing in a weak team. Imagine how good he would look playing in the Hawthorn forward line with the odd run in the middle. Could also have a beer with Dermie, Dipper and Dunstall after the game. :-*
Quote from: batt on June 21, 2015, 08:25:44 PM
6.4% of teams. That is absolutely insane.
Jasper Pittard's in more teams FFS.
agree its way too high. Why would you risk a guy who is injury prone and has offield issues in a team thats really struggling.
Im happy with Buddy Lids Gray Martin Swan Dahlous Goddard instead thankyou.
anyone other bennell owners worried bennell could be apart of this new scandal at the suns????.. stuck with him all year and i hope theres not repercussions if its all true and he's one.. hate to speculate but :-\ :-\ :-\
Quote from: netterzzzz on June 29, 2015, 12:36:05 PM
anyone other bennell owners worried bennell could be apart of this new scandal at the suns? ??? .. stuck with him all year and i hope theres not repercussions if its all true and he's one.. hate to speculate but :-\ :-\ :-\
I'd worry about a party boy who used to live with Hunt, yes.
Quote from: netterzzzz on June 29, 2015, 12:36:05 PM
anyone other bennell owners worried bennell could be apart of this new scandal at the suns????.. stuck with him all year and i hope theres not repercussions if its all true and he's one.. hate to speculate but :-\ :-\ :-\
He's probably not. Wasn't on the golf trip.
Quote from: netterzzzz on June 29, 2015, 12:36:05 PM
anyone other bennell owners worried bennell could be apart of this new scandal at the suns????.. stuck with him all year and i hope theres not repercussions if its all true and he's one.. hate to speculate but :-\ :-\ :-\
Not really worried at all
He probably still needs to grow up a bit, be alright in a year or two. Reckon he can average 110-120 when he matures.
Quote from: ronl on June 29, 2015, 06:54:27 PM
He probably still needs to grow up a bit, be alright in a year or two. Reckon he can average 110-120 when he matures.
Matures??
by doing this??
http://www.heraldsun.com.au/news/victoria/gold-coast-suns-player-harley-bennell-pictured-with-lines-of-speed/story-fnpp4dl6-1227424325236
Front page of Thursday's Courier Mail:
"White Line Fever" - Pictures of Bennell doing lines of what is said to be speed. Also drinking UDL, so not sure which is more offensive
Photos are from 2013 though, but still likely to cause some fall-out you'd think
Quote from: HotTiges on July 02, 2015, 12:20:05 AM
Quote from: ronl on June 29, 2015, 06:54:27 PM
He probably still needs to grow up a bit, be alright in a year or two. Reckon he can average 110-120 when he matures.
Matures??
by doing this??
http://www.heraldsun.com.au/news/victoria/gold-coast-suns-player-harley-bennell-pictured-with-lines-of-speed/story-fnpp4dl6-1227424325236
Beaten by *that* much...
Quote from: HotTiges on July 02, 2015, 12:20:05 AM
Quote from: ronl on June 29, 2015, 06:54:27 PM
He probably still needs to grow up a bit, be alright in a year or two. Reckon he can average 110-120 when he matures.
Matures??
by doing this??
http://www.heraldsun.com.au/news/victoria/gold-coast-suns-player-harley-bennell-pictured-with-lines-of-speed/story-fnpp4dl6-1227424325236
To be fair that picture was taken before the rd 1 Clash in 2013. Been several years since, but regardless the guy is a flog and is a NEVER again pick for me. No flogs allowed policy will be enforced next year.
Quote from: spudaroos on July 02, 2015, 12:23:33 AM
Quote from: HotTiges on July 02, 2015, 12:20:05 AM
Quote from: ronl on June 29, 2015, 06:54:27 PM
He probably still needs to grow up a bit, be alright in a year or two. Reckon he can average 110-120 when he matures.
Matures??
by doing this??
http://www.heraldsun.com.au/news/victoria/gold-coast-suns-player-harley-bennell-pictured-with-lines-of-speed/story-fnpp4dl6-1227424325236
To be fair that picture was taken before the rd 1 Clash in 2013. Been several years since, but regardless the guy is a flog and is a NEVER again pick for me. No flogs allowed policy will be enforced next year.
i'd be very surprised if he lined up on the weekend..
Quote from: HotTiges on July 02, 2015, 12:28:45 AM
Quote from: spudaroos on July 02, 2015, 12:23:33 AM
Quote from: HotTiges on July 02, 2015, 12:20:05 AM
Quote from: ronl on June 29, 2015, 06:54:27 PM
He probably still needs to grow up a bit, be alright in a year or two. Reckon he can average 110-120 when he matures.
Matures??
by doing this??
http://www.heraldsun.com.au/news/victoria/gold-coast-suns-player-harley-bennell-pictured-with-lines-of-speed/story-fnpp4dl6-1227424325236
To be fair that picture was taken before the rd 1 Clash in 2013. Been several years since, but regardless the guy is a flog and is a NEVER again pick for me. No flogs allowed policy will be enforced next year.
i'd be very surprised if he lined up on the weekend..
I hope for my own selfish reasons that they conduct a long-winded investigation into this so his ban happens next season or something. Would kill my team.
Quote from: HotTiges on July 02, 2015, 12:28:45 AM
Quote from: spudaroos on July 02, 2015, 12:23:33 AM
Quote from: HotTiges on July 02, 2015, 12:20:05 AM
Quote from: ronl on June 29, 2015, 06:54:27 PM
He probably still needs to grow up a bit, be alright in a year or two. Reckon he can average 110-120 when he matures.
Matures??
by doing this??
http://www.heraldsun.com.au/news/victoria/gold-coast-suns-player-harley-bennell-pictured-with-lines-of-speed/story-fnpp4dl6-1227424325236
To be fair that picture was taken before the rd 1 Clash in 2013. Been several years since, but regardless the guy is a flog and is a NEVER again pick for me. No flogs allowed policy will be enforced next year.
i'd be very surprised if he lined up on the weekend..
Really? Obviously it's not a good look for the game but I'm not sure they'll punish him for something he did over 2 years ago
Fair chance GC already knew about it anyway
This makes me grumpy. And not even from an SC perspective.
There would be over 100 players in the league that do drugs. Harley is just unfortunate that some rat captured and sold this old photo.
Quote from: HotTiges on July 02, 2015, 12:28:45 AM
Quote from: spudaroos on July 02, 2015, 12:23:33 AM
Quote from: HotTiges on July 02, 2015, 12:20:05 AM
Quote from: ronl on June 29, 2015, 06:54:27 PM
He probably still needs to grow up a bit, be alright in a year or two. Reckon he can average 110-120 when he matures.
Matures??
by doing this??
http://www.heraldsun.com.au/news/victoria/gold-coast-suns-player-harley-bennell-pictured-with-lines-of-speed/story-fnpp4dl6-1227424325236
To be fair that picture was taken before the rd 1 Clash in 2013. Been several years since, but regardless the guy is a flog and is a NEVER again pick for me. No flogs allowed policy will be enforced next year.
i'd be very surprised if he lined up on the weekend..
Key word
Quote from: MontyJnr on July 02, 2015, 12:58:10 AM
There would be over 100 players in the league that do drugs.
and some. It's everywhere these days
Breaking all over the various news channels here in SA this morning. Thrashing the story.
What 3 strike policy?
Quote from: justaverage on July 02, 2015, 08:43:31 AM
What 3 strike policy?
Dumbest drug policy in the history of sport.
You just new this guy was going to be involved I would be surprised if he is playing AFL next year
Quote from: Grazz on July 02, 2015, 08:51:15 AM
Quote from: justaverage on July 02, 2015, 08:43:31 AM
What 3 strike policy?
Dumbest drug policy in the history of sport.
If you go out on the piss and get caught you are paraded shamed and fined and suspended by the club and that is a legal substance but take and illegal substance and the afl covers it up and nothing is ever done I gotta agree with you Grazz it is so stupid :o
Quote from: MontyJnr on July 02, 2015, 12:58:10 AM
There would be over 100 players in the league that do drugs. Harley is just unfortunate that some rat captured and sold this old photo.
They didn't name him KHunt for nothing
I knew this guy would be involved with the drugs, doesn't take his career seriously at all. That being said you're all naive if you don't think this is a common thing in the AFL, I wouldn't say I'm well connected, but I've talked to and heard enough stories that there are a lot of guys in the AFL that go to local parties and do plenty of drugs all the time.
The guy threatens reporters at the Brownlow, does speed and coke regularly, drinks to excess and can still go out and tear it up on the football field. Just imagine if he was a disciplined player.
That said, he's a loose unit who GCS would be wanting to trade but I doubt anyone will take him. A promising career that will likely be over soon.
Quote from: PICCOLLO on July 02, 2015, 10:27:15 AM
The guy threatens reporters at the Brownlow, does speed and coke regularly, drinks to excess and can still go out and tear it up on the football field. Just imagine if he was a disciplined player.
That said, he's a loose unit who GCS would be wanting to trade but I doubt anyone will take him. A promising career that will likely be over soon.
I doubt his career will be over. There's plenty out there who are/were just as bad and turned it around. Clubs will still invest in him, even if GC won't.
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The guy threatens reporters at the Brownlow, does speed and coke regularly, drinks to excess and can still go out and tear it up on the football field. Just imagine if he was a disciplined player.
That said, he's a loose unit who GCS would be wanting to trade but I doubt anyone will take him. A promising career that will likely be over soon.
I doubt his career will be over. There's plenty out there who are/were just as bad and turned it around. Clubs will still invest in him, even if GC won't.
Interesting question about turning him around. Still wonder how it has got this far though. Who at GC is supposed to be looking after the players welfare? I am just starting to think that the coach change over may have had something to do with poor off field tolerances. Rocket brought in to lay down the law maybe.
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Quote from: Ricochet on July 02, 2015, 10:51:33 AM
Quote from: PICCOLLO on July 02, 2015, 10:27:15 AM
The guy threatens reporters at the Brownlow, does speed and coke regularly, drinks to excess and can still go out and tear it up on the football field. Just imagine if he was a disciplined player.
That said, he's a loose unit who GCS would be wanting to trade but I doubt anyone will take him. A promising career that will likely be over soon.
I doubt his career will be over. There's plenty out there who are/were just as bad and turned it around. Clubs will still invest in him, even if GC won't.
Interesting question about turning him around. Still wonder how it has got this far though. Who at GC is supposed to be looking after the players welfare? I am just starting to think that the coach change over may have had something to do with poor off field tolerances. Rocket brought in to lay down the law maybe.
Throw a bunch of kids up on the Gold Coast, give them more money than their parents earn, surround them with some questionable personalities and it can get ugly quick. Wouldn't be surprised if guys like JOM and Prestia are looking at their options
Quote from: Ricochet on July 02, 2015, 10:51:33 AM
Quote from: PICCOLLO on July 02, 2015, 10:27:15 AM
The guy threatens reporters at the Brownlow, does speed and coke regularly, drinks to excess and can still go out and tear it up on the football field. Just imagine if he was a disciplined player.
That said, he's a loose unit who GCS would be wanting to trade but I doubt anyone will take him. A promising career that will likely be over soon.
I doubt his career will be over. There's plenty out there who are/were just as bad and turned it around. Clubs will still invest in him, even if GC won't.
He's young so maybe you're right but he continues to defy the club despite suspensions, etc. lots of clubs won't risk getting him as he may influence their younger players.
He's an amazing talent but no club wants players that consider themselves 'untouchable'.
suspended again awesome... that's like 5 donuts I have got from him between injuries and suspensions.... never again!!
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Quote from: Ricochet on July 02, 2015, 10:51:33 AM
Quote from: PICCOLLO on July 02, 2015, 10:27:15 AM
The guy threatens reporters at the Brownlow, does speed and coke regularly, drinks to excess and can still go out and tear it up on the football field. Just imagine if he was a disciplined player.
That said, he's a loose unit who GCS would be wanting to trade but I doubt anyone will take him. A promising career that will likely be over soon.
I doubt his career will be over. There's plenty out there who are/were just as bad and turned it around. Clubs will still invest in him, even if GC won't.
Interesting question about turning him around. Still wonder how it has got this far though. Who at GC is supposed to be looking after the players welfare? I am just starting to think that the coach change over may have had something to do with poor off field tolerances. Rocket brought in to lay down the law maybe.
Throw a bunch of kids up on the Gold Coast, give them more money than their parents earn, surround them with some questionable personalities and it can get ugly quick. Wouldn't be surprised if guys like JOM and Prestia are looking at their options
Very true mate, age and a ton of money with a bad influence around is a recipe for disaster. Im not condoning it by any means but expecting kids which is what they are to get it right 100% of the time and not make mistakes is narrow minded. Young people will do stupid stuff and make mistakes simply because they think they know better or believe they won't get caught. I was young once and did plenty of dumb shower. I feel clubs have naive people looking after the welfare of their junior and senior players, these people can't see the forest for the trees. You can't simply take someone's word "No i haven't No i didn't" you need absolute proof and the only way to get that is to drug test inhouse during the off season aswell as during. For me if clubs are genuinely concerned and they should be then they need to raise the bar to a point where they can be 99.9% certain their players are doing the right thing by themselves and the club otherwise all they are doing is token gestures to meet the standards of due care and that my friends isn't actually caring about someone it's just going through the motions.
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There would be over 100 players in the league that do drugs. Harley is just unfortunate that some rat captured and sold this old photo.
They didn't name him KHunt for nothing
KHunt didnt take the photo. He was in the room with 3 chicks and a UDL i believe
KHunt had the photo of the golf day still on his instagram account
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Quote from: Ricochet on July 02, 2015, 10:51:33 AM
Quote from: PICCOLLO on July 02, 2015, 10:27:15 AM
The guy threatens reporters at the Brownlow, does speed and coke regularly, drinks to excess and can still go out and tear it up on the football field. Just imagine if he was a disciplined player.
That said, he's a loose unit who GCS would be wanting to trade but I doubt anyone will take him. A promising career that will likely be over soon.
I doubt his career will be over. There's plenty out there who are/were just as bad and turned it around. Clubs will still invest in him, even if GC won't.
Interesting question about turning him around. Still wonder how it has got this far though. Who at GC is supposed to be looking after the players welfare? I am just starting to think that the coach change over may have had something to do with poor off field tolerances. Rocket brought in to lay down the law maybe.
Throw a bunch of kids up on the Gold Coast, give them more money than their parents earn, surround them with some questionable personalities and it can get ugly quick. Wouldn't be surprised if guys like JOM and Prestia are looking at their options
Very true mate, age and a ton of money with a bad influence around is a recipe for disaster. Im not condoning it by any means but expecting kids which is what they are to get it right 100% of the time and not make mistakes is narrow minded. Young people will do stupid stuff and make mistakes simply because they think they know better or believe they won't get caught. I was young once and did plenty of dumb shower. I feel clubs have naive people looking after the welfare of their junior and senior players, these people can't see the forest for the trees. You can't simply take someone's word "No i haven't No i didn't" you need absolute proof and the only way to get that is to drug test inhouse during the off season aswell as during. For me if clubs are genuinely concerned and they should be then they need to raise the bar to a point where they can be 99.9% certain their players are doing the right thing by themselves and the club otherwise all they are doing is token gestures to meet the standards of due care and that my friends isn't actually caring about someone it's just going through the motions.
Well said Grazz. It is easy to call players stupid, dumb etc however regardless of environment they are still young men learning who they are. Yes a good club environment and off field support is needed. Imagine how it would be if all parents of young men turned their back on them. three years ago my son came to me with drug issues. I spent the next 24hours sitting over him as he came down and next months and years working with him. Today i am proud of person he has become. It is not right to turn our back on these kids. OTOH Khunt led these kids astray and what club would allow someone to live him when they doubted his integrity.
would love to see bennell suspended for rest of year. Then get on with being the support in midfield GCS need.
Well said. Yes they are professional well paid athletes doing what we would love to have been able to do, but they are still young, highly charged blokes in the prime of their life wanting a bit of fun along the way. Just like all of us except we could get away with it as Upper Timbucktoo Thirds were pretty casual on discipline.
He is great for football, let's hope football is great for him.
Next question is.... Do we trade him?
has he been ruled out yet?
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Next question is.... Do we trade him?
If you can make it work, I would. But I'm low on trades and have other problems, thinking I might let the dust settle and hope he plays next week.
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has he been ruled out yet?
Yes, Rocket ruled him out for this week.
Flower this clown, I've had enough of his shower. Can see his career on the scrap heap, plenty of other kids that don't get the oppurtuinty to play, any number would gladly take his spot.
Welcome to round 14 donuts.
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Quote from: Degsman on July 02, 2015, 04:19:06 PM
Next question is.... Do we trade him?
If you can make it work, I would. But I'm low on trades and have other problems, thinking I might let the dust settle and hope he plays next week.
I'm also low on trades and don't really want to drop him
Wish we knew how long he'd be out for
http://mobile.news.com.au/sport/afl/western-bulldogs-player-found-unconscious/story-fnelctok-1226443886175 (http://mobile.news.com.au/sport/afl/western-bulldogs-player-found-unconscious/story-fnelctok-1226443886175)
Could he follow this?
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Could he follow this? (http://mobile.news.com.au/sport/afl/western-bulldogs-player-found-unconscious/story-fnelctok-1226443886175)
I don't think so. Working in Harley's favour is the fact this was 2.5 years ago, before the season started. The AFL didn't catch him. So in that sense, they are powerless to do anything. Libba was caught at the time, hence the suspension.
The media is running riot with this but I don't think too much can happen suspension wise.
flowering great
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He probably still needs to grow up a bit, be alright in a year or two. Reckon he can average 110-120 when he matures.
Matures??
by doing this??
http://www.heraldsun.com.au/news/victoria/gold-coast-suns-player-harley-bennell-pictured-with-lines-of-speed/story-fnpp4dl6-1227424325236
To be fair that picture was taken before the rd 1 Clash in 2013. Been several years since, but regardless the guy is a flog and is a NEVER again pick for me. No flogs allowed policy will be enforced next year.
i'd be very surprised if he lined up on the weekend..
Really? Obviously it's not a good look for the game but I'm not sure they'll punish him for something he did over 2 years ago
Fair chance GC already knew about it anyway
Really...
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He probably still needs to grow up a bit, be alright in a year or two. Reckon he can average 110-120 when he matures.
Matures??
by doing this??
http://www.heraldsun.com.au/news/victoria/gold-coast-suns-player-harley-bennell-pictured-with-lines-of-speed/story-fnpp4dl6-1227424325236
To be fair that picture was taken before the rd 1 Clash in 2013. Been several years since, but regardless the guy is a flog and is a NEVER again pick for me. No flogs allowed policy will be enforced next year.
i'd be very surprised if he lined up on the weekend..
Really? Obviously it's not a good look for the game but I'm not sure they'll punish him for something he did over 2 years ago
Fair chance GC already knew about it anyway
Really...
Problem?
Hawthorn issued this statement regarding Taylor Duryea
http://www.hawthornfc.com.au/news/2015-07-02/hawthorn-football-club-statement
Not a smart move
Quote from: Capper on July 03, 2015, 01:19:59 PM
Hawthorn issued this statement regarding Taylor Duryea
http://www.hawthornfc.com.au/news/2015-07-02/hawthorn-football-club-statement
Not a smart move
Was investigated in Nov 2014...
They must be pre-empting any pics that might surface and being on the front foot. Pretty good move if you ask me.
Does everyone think he might be back next week?
Quote from: North Melbournes Finest on July 03, 2015, 07:13:50 PM
Does everyone think he might be back next week?
Every chance but nothing really confirmed so I traded him out for lids as need the win
Quote from: North Melbournes Finest on July 03, 2015, 07:13:50 PM
Does everyone think he might be back next week?
I'm holding him, but that's based on nothing other than the fact that I can cover him if he misses a few
Trade if you've got 8+ I think
Quote from: Big Mac on July 03, 2015, 11:07:27 PM
Quote from: North Melbournes Finest on July 03, 2015, 07:13:50 PM
Does everyone think he might be back next week?
I'm holding him, but that's based on nothing other than the fact that I can cover him if he misses a few
Trade if you've got 8+ I think
I have 11, you think even with the bye this week trade him?
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Quote from: Big Mac on July 03, 2015, 11:07:27 PM
Quote from: North Melbournes Finest on July 03, 2015, 07:13:50 PM
Does everyone think he might be back next week?
I'm holding him, but that's based on nothing other than the fact that I can cover him if he misses a few
Trade if you've got 8+ I think
I have 11, you think even with the bye this week trade him?
Crazy this week. Still got 5 games to survive this week for the rest of your players.
"Harley Bennell will miss one more match with the potential for another week after that." - @barrettdamian. #AFLFootyShow
If Rough is also out this week I have a really tough decision to make. Would love to keep Bennell being that he's one of my favourite players. But with 10 trades left and getting to the pointy end of the season, need to make sure I keep winning.
Quote from: HotTiges on July 07, 2015, 09:57:28 PM
"Harley Bennell will miss one more match with the potential for another week after that." - @barrettdamian. #AFLFootyShow
How does Barrett know?
Quote from: Big Mac on July 07, 2015, 10:19:01 PM
How does Barrett know?
Damo is employed by the AFL. The AFL have sent up some guys to do an investigation into the situation. Both the AFLPA and Harley have accepted he won't play this week as part of the punishment but the 2nd week is up to the AFL guys lodging the investigation. The AFLPA wants him to play next week.
Quote from: Mat0369 on July 07, 2015, 11:16:17 PM
Quote from: Big Mac on July 07, 2015, 10:19:01 PM
How does Barrett know?
Damo is employed by the AFL. The AFL have sent up some guys to do an investigation into the situation. Both the AFLPA and Harley have accepted he won't play this week as part of the punishment but the 2nd week is up to the AFL guys lodging the investigation. The AFLPA wants him to play next week.
ahhh okay
Do we know if 2 weeks is the maximum? Or could it be even longer?
The decision comes on Thursday but they are expecting it to only be this weekend
Maybe one of these weeks I will have a full premo team on the ground!
Looks like i'm going to have to play Dusty against Carlton :(
So no certainty to play next week either. Trade or hold ?
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2015-07-10/bennell-no-guarantee-to-return-next-week-says-eade (http://www.afl.com.au/news/2015-07-10/bennell-no-guarantee-to-return-next-week-says-eade)
hard enough trying to field a full team without having to have druggies sitting on the pine, fair enough if he was injured, but he aint.
Just used my 2nd trade for this week
Not on Bennell unfortunately
Just have to wait and hope I think
Get the feeling he wont play again this season and be another clubs problem next year. If not named again next week have to look at the Harley to Gaj option.
I wish the AFL or GC would come out and tell us whats happening with Bennell
I dont want to see what happened in the NRL, when the NRL pushed for the club to sack this player only for another club to pick him up 6 months later. So no compensation was received for the club and the 2nd club got a bargain
They need him out there
GC have been putrid this qtr
Available for NEAFL round 16
Available for Senior selection rd 17
So to trade or hold? Is he a fwd keeper?
Low on trade. Playing Steele. Just gonna keep
Quote from: AlexIsOnFire on July 16, 2015, 06:16:27 PM
Available for NEAFL round 16
Available for Senior selection rd 17
So to trade or hold? Is he a fwd keeper?
I'm wondering how he will perform when he's finally back in?
- will he be head flowered and struggle to score
- or will he be breathing fire and come out and smash it to prove everyone wrong?
Or will he be a sub risk?
Questions to ponder
Think it is time to forget about Harley and see what unfolds this season had him early on but got rid of him when he was injured and what has unfolded since you would have to think his days are numbered unless there is a remarkable turn around
Managed 37 disposals and a goal in a 130 point drubbing
Surely he's back this week
Quote from: Big Mac on July 19, 2015, 11:54:43 AM
Managed 37 disposals and a goal in a 130 point drubbing
Surely he's back this week
Hope so mate - I've held him long enough!!
Think they said he'll be back this week or available for selection something like that. :-\
Oh Harley my old friend, I have loved you, then hated you, then loved you, then hated you and now I find myself loving you again. Are you going to be my finals champion or will I look at the paper to find that u have celebrated ur great form by spending 3 days with strippers, coke and Booz? The million dollar question
Quote from: Spotted gum on August 01, 2015, 10:07:49 PM
Oh Harley my old friend, I have loved you, then hated you, then loved you, then hated you and now I find myself loving you again. Are you going to be my finals champion or will I look at the paper to find that u have celebrated ur great form by spending 3 days with strippers, coke and Booz? The million dollar question
Wish I knew where he lived
Hahahah, let's get there man. Should be a great night
Quote from: Spotted gum on August 01, 2015, 11:04:46 PM
Hahahah, let's get there man. Should be a great night
Pick me up on the way through. ;)
Hopefully a turning point to a great career.
Was tempted to trade him but with Gawn covering I didn't really have any reason to
A massive POD for me now 8)
If buddy doesn't get up I will be tempted to trade him in
136 against the lions last time. tempting....
and 126 nab
Started with him, shattered I had to trade him out a few weeks back, but couldn't hold for 3
3 trades left, gota dump beams and tempted to swing Grey to the mids and jump on bennell...
Quote from: petefisker on August 04, 2015, 08:44:47 PM
3 trades left, gota dump beams and tempted to swing Grey to the mids and jump on bennell...
You don't have to swing Gray to mids, Bennell is DPP. Unless it looks more aesthetically pleasing to you! ::)
I'm worried he will be tagged. He was last year against the Lions and clearly didn't handle it well (35 SC):
http://www.fanfooty.com.au/game/matchcentre.html?id=4951
Quote from: Gambino on August 06, 2015, 04:25:44 PM
I'm worried he will be tagged. He was last year against the Lions and clearly didn't handle it well (35 SC):
http://www.fanfooty.com.au/game/matchcentre.html?id=4951
Had 31 and kicked 2 against them this year
I'll back him to put in a similar performance
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Quote from: Gambino on August 06, 2015, 04:25:44 PM
I'm worried he will be tagged. He was last year against the Lions and clearly didn't handle it well (35 SC):
http://www.fanfooty.com.au/game/matchcentre.html?id=4951
Had 31 and kicked 2 against them this year
I'll back him to put in a similar performance
He wasn't tagged that game though. He has clearly been the Suns' most dominant mid since he has been back from suspension, so it makes sense that he would be tagged. Hope I am wrong though
Didn't think Brisbane tagged, or do they?
Quote from: _wato on August 06, 2015, 05:59:16 PM
Didn't think Brisbane tagged, or do they?
Bewick has at times, although he is in pretty poor form himself at the moment
Quote from: _wato on August 06, 2015, 05:59:16 PM
Didn't think Brisbane tagged, or do they?
Bewick, O'Brien and Robinson have tagged at various times this season. Robinson kept Fyfe reasonably quiet a few weeks ago
I'm thinking he's a really good guy to bring in now. The motivation to pay back the GCS and prove himself for next year is pretty big. You take away what a guy loves most, with the realistic chance he won't get it back, and you have a recipe for success.
Just got into trouble again. Charged with disorderly behavior on the weekend.
I wonder where he is going to end up?
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Just got into trouble again. Charged with disorderly behavior on the weekend.
I wonder where he is going to end up?
Hopefully North, kid has elite talent it's worth the punt.
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Just got into trouble again. Charged with disorderly behavior on the weekend.
I wonder where he is going to end up?
Hopefully North, kid has elite talent it's worth the punt.
Really the guy clearly has addiction problems any club that take him on are in for a bumpy ride
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Just got into trouble again. Charged with disorderly behavior on the weekend.
I wonder where he is going to end up?
Hopefully North, kid has elite talent it's worth the punt.
Really the guy clearly has addiction problems any club that take him on are in for a bumpy ride
Not sure about addiction, but he does have issues entertaining himself legally away from the footy field. Needs good people around him and a really good mentor Imo.
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Quote from: johnoP on September 07, 2015, 03:09:16 PM
Just got into trouble again. Charged with disorderly behavior on the weekend.
I wonder where he is going to end up?
Hopefully North, kid has elite talent it's worth the punt.
Really the guy clearly has addiction problems any club that take him on are in for a bumpy ride
Not sure about addiction, but he does have issues entertaining himself legally away from the footy field. Needs good people around him and a really good mentor Imo.
Be nice addition to Essendon midfield.
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Quote from: johnoP on September 07, 2015, 03:09:16 PM
Just got into trouble again. Charged with disorderly behavior on the weekend.
I wonder where he is going to end up?
Hopefully North, kid has elite talent it's worth the punt.
Really the guy clearly has addiction problems any club that take him on are in for a bumpy ride
Not sure about addiction, but he does have issues entertaining himself legally away from the footy field. Needs good people around him and a really good mentor Imo.
Be nice addition to Essendon midfield.
Well, he sure would fit in at the Bombers
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Quote from: johnoP on September 07, 2015, 03:09:16 PM
Just got into trouble again. Charged with disorderly behavior on the weekend.
I wonder where he is going to end up?
Hopefully North, kid has elite talent it's worth the punt.
Really the guy clearly has addiction problems any club that take him on are in for a bumpy ride
Not sure about addiction, but he does have issues entertaining himself legally away from the footy field. Needs good people around him and a really good mentor Imo.
Be nice addition to Essendon midfield.
Well, he sure would fit in at the Bombers
Hehehehe
As much as i would love to have him at Essendon the team Essendon hate in the brown and gold still have cap room after they got rid of buddy and are interested in Bennell.
I wonder if Geelong might have a crack at him instead/as well as Scotty Selwood. Bennell+Danger would be an epic trade.
Be interesting to know what kind of value teams will put on him.
He's young enough and good enough that every team will be interested.
Quote from: AaronKirk on September 07, 2015, 07:00:12 PM
As much as i would love to have him at Essendon the team Essendon hate in the brown and gold still have cap room after they got rid of buddy and are interested in Bennell.
Please, please please for the love of god please go anywhere but Hawthorn
If he does wind up at the Hawks, it's further proof that the free agency system isn't working for the AFL.
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Quote from: AaronKirk on September 07, 2015, 07:00:12 PM
As much as i would love to have him at Essendon the team Essendon hate in the brown and gold still have cap room after they got rid of buddy and are interested in Bennell.
Please, please please for the love of god please go anywhere but Hawthorn
If he does wind up at the Hawks, it's further proof that the free agency system isn't working for the AFL.
Give back Buddy then!
And hes not a free agent.
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Quote from: AaronKirk on September 07, 2015, 07:00:12 PM
As much as i would love to have him at Essendon the team Essendon hate in the brown and gold still have cap room after they got rid of buddy and are interested in Bennell.
Please, please please for the love of god please go anywhere but Hawthorn
If he does wind up at the Hawks, it's further proof that the free agency system isn't working for the AFL.
Give back Buddy then!
And hes not a free agent.
Sheeiiit good point, totally goofed that. Still, it would show the inherent flaw that
players want to go to better clubs.
Quote from: johnoP on September 07, 2015, 08:16:39 PM
I wonder if Geelong might have a crack at him instead/as well as Scotty Selwood. Bennell+Danger would be an epic trade.
Be interesting to know what kind of value teams will put on him.
He's young enough and good enough that every team will be interested.
He is, has of tonne of talent and that's whats saved him here a lesser player would probably be wandering the wastelands already.
There isn't a club in the land that would or shouldn't be looking at him except for maybe GWS due to the amount of youth they have, clubs with senior leadership groups should all be looking at him. A mentor would be great for him look at Dusty and the job Choco did there. The key and I stress the key to it all is the individual has to want it also and I hope Harley does otherwise it's a massive waste of a very gifted footballer.
He'll be a fantastic get for whatever team he finally signs with. But, as Grazz has said, he'll need a strong mentor to sort him out Just hope it's not Hawthorn or Sydney, they've already got top class players coming out of their ears.
Quote from: ronl on September 08, 2015, 09:22:15 AM
He'll be a fantastic get for whatever team he finally signs with. But, as Grazz has said, he'll need a strong mentor to sort him out Just hope it's not Hawthorn or Sydney, they've already got top class players coming out of their ears.
They'll have to give up something decent to get him though
Not quite in the same league but anyone picking him up has got to be wary of another Ben Cousins/Dayle Garlett type decline... Huge potential but he really needs to sort himself out. At the same time, I think we need to remember these guys are only human and will slip up, I've definitely had arguments with bouncers when I was off my face, but no-one cares because I'm not famous ;) I think it's right for the Suns to move him on though, he had his lifeline with them. For his sake, I hope it serves as a wake up call and he find success elsewhere.
As much as I would love him at West Coast I think it would be a bad idea for him personally to return to WA
He needs mentoring and a club with a strong culture.
Of the top of my head... every club other than GC, GWS, Melbourne or Carlton would work for him.
Maybe Geelong, maybe Richmond, what about North? Footscray....sorry, Western Bulldogs... there you go, WB, tough coach, tough players, do as you're told...could be a good fit...imagine HB, Libba and the Bont, full steam, feeding off one another? Oh yeah.
I am a Harley fanboy but I reckon he's a top 5 talent in the AFL, he just doesn't string it together consistently enough. All class, damaging, sees things others don't, unselfish, can kick goals. Does it all.
I don't give a damn where he ends up I just want him to succeed so badly. He is a pretty massive reason why I follow the Suns.
Don't f*** this up Harley, you could end up as one of the biggest wasted talents in history.