Poll
Question:
do Brisbane NEED a priority pick
Option 1: yes
votes: 6
Option 2: no
votes: 8
my opinion is yes
yes, but dont think they can get one because the precedence has been set with melbourne not getting one :P
Quote from: iZander on August 31, 2016, 09:45:31 PM
yes, but dont think they can get one because the precedence has been set with melbourne not getting one :P
hasn't Brisbane been down longer than Melbourne? i don't think you can compare the two
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on August 31, 2016, 09:49:13 PM
Quote from: iZander on August 31, 2016, 09:45:31 PM
yes, but dont think they can get one because the precedence has been set with melbourne not getting one :P
hasn't Brisbane been down longer than Melbourne? i don't think you can compare the two
gee i hope not, couldnt say for sure though
I think using past rejection for the priority pick is exactly what you should compare with :P
Melbourne got priority picks though, just didn't work out. or one at least, not sure if there were more
I think Brissy need one
well i'm saying Brisbanes future looks much worse then Melbournes ever did even before the last 2 years
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on August 31, 2016, 09:53:44 PM
well i'm saying Brisbanes future looks much worse then Melbournes ever did even before the last 2 years
mmm fair enough :P I reckon there might be some melbourne supporters that would disagree with that though :P
Brissy actually have some good players, especially in that mid, there was a time when Jonesy was a lone soldier at the dees :P
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on August 31, 2016, 09:49:13 PM
hasn't Brisbane been down longer than Melbourne? i don't think you can compare the two
Melbourne last played finals in 2006, Brisbane 2009. The answer is no they haven't, Melbourne were much more of a basket case and Brisbane don't deserve a pick.
The Dogs looked to be in a worse position before Beveridge got there and Port looked on the verge of shutting up shop when they were putting tarps on the seat and getting smashed every week. It turns quickly.
I think we're a pretty good chance of PP, especially because of the Essendon situation. I know you'll hate me for talking about this KB, but there are a lot of people that don't think Essendon deserve pick 1, and if someone like Eddie was to come out and say... Basically it gives the AFL a very good excuse to not give Essendon pick 1.
Quote from: nrich102 on August 31, 2016, 10:20:48 PM
I think we're a pretty good chance of PP, especially because of the Essendon situation. I know you'll hate me for talking about this KB, but there are a lot of people that don't think Essendon deserve pick 1, and if someone like Eddie was to come out and say... Basically it gives the AFL a very good excuse to not give Essendon pick 1.
I cant say i know the criteria for PP but im pretty sure thats not one :P
But certainly bias everywhere so could be factor for sure!!!
Think there would be some very angry Melbourne supporters if you were to get a PP though :P and probably rightly so
Melbourne didn't get one, so we won't. If we're still in the same position in another year or two, then maybe.
Quote from: iZander on August 31, 2016, 10:24:19 PM
Quote from: nrich102 on August 31, 2016, 10:20:48 PM
I think we're a pretty good chance of PP, especially because of the Essendon situation. I know you'll hate me for talking about this KB, but there are a lot of people that don't think Essendon deserve pick 1, and if someone like Eddie was to come out and say... Basically it gives the AFL a very good excuse to not give Essendon pick 1.
I cant say i know the criteria for PP but im pretty sure thats not one :P
But certainly bias everywhere so could be factor for sure!!!
Think there would be some very angry Melbourne supporters if you were to get a PP though :P and probably rightly so
There is no criteria for a PP, its at the AFL's discretion. Sure they have something drawn up somewhere, but it can't be that hard to justify giving us a pick.
Melbourne supports will have more than every right to be pissed if we get a pick.
If Brisbane got pick #1 and #3 and Essendon got #2 I wouldn't be too upset
All Brisbane need is better medical staff. I doubt they'd suck as much if Beams, Christo and Bell were playing.
And Melbourne did get a priority pick disguised as Frawley's compensation pick.
Quote from: nrich102 on August 31, 2016, 10:20:48 PM
I think we're a pretty good chance of PP, especially because of the Essendon situation. I know you'll hate me for talking about this KB, but there are a lot of people that don't think Essendon deserve pick 1, and if someone like Eddie was to come out and say... Basically it gives the AFL a very good excuse to not give Essendon pick 1.
people cant put aside there hate for Essendon to make a clear minded decision i really stopped caring about random peoples opinons on AFL a long time ago everyones biased
the AFL cant take it off us now anyway they should of thought of this at the start of the season
Quote from: meow meow on August 31, 2016, 10:36:25 PM
All Brisbane need is better medical staff. I doubt they'd suck as much if Beams, Christo and Bell were playing.
And Melbourne did get a priority pick disguised as Frawley's compensation pick.
maybe this will happen as well with any compo picks we get haha,
But no way should we get one as we have not been as low as the dees and they asked and was refused.
Quote from: Mat0369 on August 31, 2016, 10:10:34 PM
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on August 31, 2016, 09:49:13 PM
hasn't Brisbane been down longer than Melbourne? i don't think you can compare the two
Melbourne last played finals in 2006, Brisbane 2009. The answer is no they haven't, Melbourne were much more of a basket case and Brisbane don't deserve a pick.
The Dogs looked to be in a worse position before Beveridge got there and Port looked on the verge of shutting up shop when they were putting tarps on the seat and getting smashed every week. It turns quickly.
And people forget we were super unlucky in that our worst years were when the expansion clubs came in. So whilst Melbourne, Brisbane get their number of top 2/3 draft picks Port didn't draft inside the top 3 at all! (Hartlett 4, Wingard 6 were our highest I believe)
I think the AFL's pretty much set the precedent that if a club is struggling then the assistance they get will be in the form of $$$ for a new coach/CEO etc....Which helped us a lot more than a priority pick ever would have
Quote from: Big Mac on September 01, 2016, 12:21:14 AM
I think the AFL's pretty much set the precedent that if a club is struggling then the assistance they get will be in the form of $$$ for a new coach/CEO etc....Which helped us a lot more than a priority pick ever would have
Yep this is the way to go and the AFL is putting money into Brisbanes Football Department I believe so we can compete with other cllubs. Out football department is probably the leanest in the AFL due to our financial position. Suns may be in same boat.
I don't think another early draft pick is what they need. They need better facilities, bigger crowds, more entertainment/atmosphere, good internal leaders and role models. Not another highly rated kid who will be tempted by the lure of home/Victoria in 5 years time.
Not quite ele - The entertainment is there and the atmosphere at times is there. You will always have a dull atmosphere when team is losing as we are I can remember crowds of 35 - 40k at the Gabba in our premiership years. May seem light for you AFL states but very good for Brisbane especially now this season where we have had only 3 crowd figures over 20k.
Facilities will improve when the training ground moves to the Airport precinct but we are looking at 2020 for this. For those that are unaware Brisbane trains in 4 locations, management is accross 3 locations as well and the club has been trying to find suitable property to amalgamate all to one. This also has been some of the off field problems. Facilities at the Gabba also need an upgrade has they have been flooded twice.
The good internal leaders and role models is a real issue as can be seen who will replace Rocky as Captain if he is relieved and looks like being a choice in 2 Zorko and Beams and both have worrying traits as well.
We have another couple of good kids with our academy this year who will use our later picks on.
Only advantage of priority pick would be if we traded it to get another gun.
As I have said my personal opinion is we should not get a priority pick as some of our issues are from bad decisions and we have to live with that.