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Does anyone have a list of mature age rookies for 2021?
You can lock in Connor Downie as a 117k starting mid rookie. He was seriously impressive today.
Impey also did enough for me to warrant taking him as an expensive rookie at 210k. His JS is rock solid and he spent the entire game as the bounce of half back so has a SC friendly role.
Quote from: hawkers65 on February 24, 2021, 03:00:08 PM
You can lock in Connor Downie as a 117k starting mid rookie. He was seriously impressive today.
Impey also did enough for me to warrant taking him as an expensive rookie at 210k. His JS is rock solid and he spent the entire game as the bounce of half back so has a SC friendly role.
Yep also watched it Impey a bargain Downie certainly put his hand and looks a lock but have been playing to long to assume he plays R1.
Quote from: crowls on December 23, 2020, 10:56:52 AM
Does anyone have a list of mature age rookies for 2021?
Here are who I have identified over 18:
James Rowe - Crows - Forward
Tom Highmore - Saints - Back
Jacob Wehr - Giants - Back
Luke Parks - Blues
Lachlan McNeil = Dogs - Mid
Samson Ryah - Tigers - Ruck
Beau McCreery - Pies- Fwd/Mid
Quote from: shaker on February 24, 2021, 03:12:59 PM
Quote from: hawkers65 on February 24, 2021, 03:00:08 PM
You can lock in Connor Downie as a 117k starting mid rookie. He was seriously impressive today.
Impey also did enough for me to warrant taking him as an expensive rookie at 210k. His JS is rock solid and he spent the entire game as the bounce of half back so has a SC friendly role.
Yep also watched it Impey a bargain Downie certainly put his hand and looks a lock but have been playing to long to assume he plays R1.
Where do you guys see Impey averaging around?
I’m very tempted...
Quote from: Money Shot on February 24, 2021, 03:51:52 PM
Quote from: shaker on February 24, 2021, 03:12:59 PM
Quote from: hawkers65 on February 24, 2021, 03:00:08 PM
You can lock in Connor Downie as a 117k starting mid rookie. He was seriously impressive today.
Impey also did enough for me to warrant taking him as an expensive rookie at 210k. His JS is rock solid and he spent the entire game as the bounce of half back so has a SC friendly role.
Yep also watched it Impey a bargain Downie certainly put his hand and looks a lock but have been playing to long to assume he plays R1.
Where do you guys see Impey averaging around?
I’m very tempted...
Before his injury, Impey was in BnF form for us off half back. Including a 10 game stretch of 84, 99, 86, 82, 82, 58, 98, 75, 117 and 90 for an average of 87. So it's not like he's unproven. I see him averaging at least 75 with him having the security of being picked every week if fit.
Quote from: shaker on February 24, 2021, 03:12:59 PM
Quote from: hawkers65 on February 24, 2021, 03:00:08 PM
You can lock in Connor Downie as a 117k starting mid rookie. He was seriously impressive today.
Impey also did enough for me to warrant taking him as an expensive rookie at 210k. His JS is rock solid and he spent the entire game as the bounce of half back so has a SC friendly role.
Yep also watched it Impey a bargain Downie certainly put his hand and looks a lock but have been playing to long to assume he plays R1.
Most times, and teams, I would agree with this but the Hawks had a few retirements and have a few injuries, Isaac Smith left...their starting 22 will have a bunch of new faces this year
Lets see who I can think of that wont be Rd1 but played last year in the starting 22...
Poppy, Patton, Gunston, Sicily, Smith , Stratton, Wingard, Frawley, Henderson & Scully
If Downie doesnt start Rd 1 then Ill eat my hat, the Hawks will be scraping together a team when the season starts...
I expect Kosi to play a few & Moore to play on the wing a bit.
Greaves & CJ to feature often and Phillips on the other wing.
McGuiness to be unleashed
That still leaves 3 holes to fill if Grainger Barrass gets blooded early
Not a rookie but on a side note....
Worpel getting coached by one of the best midfielders the club has seen (Sam Mitchell), I expect Worps to improve again and if not become elite - then be very close to it
Everyone is into Zerrett in a year where his contract most definately maybe a distraction.....Im going with Worpel instead - IMO - better value, less risk, greater potential for PPG increase which is what SC is all about
Quote from: bowyanger on February 24, 2021, 05:54:31 PM
Most times, and teams, I would agree with this but the Hawks had a few retirements and have a few injuries, Isaac Smith left...their starting 22 will have a bunch of new faces this year
Lets see who I can think of that wont be Rd1 but played last year in the starting 22...
Poppy, Patton, Gunston, Sicily, Smith , Stratton, Wingard, Frawley, Henderson & Scully
If Downie doesnt start Rd 1 then Ill eat my hat, the Hawks will be scraping together a team when the season starts...
I expect Kosi to play a few & Moore to play on the wing a bit.
Greaves & CJ to feature often and Phillips on the other wing.
McGuiness to be unleashed
That still leaves 3 holes to fill if Grainger Barrass gets blooded early
Not a rookie but on a side note....
Worpel getting coached by one of the best midfielders the club has seen (Sam Mitchell), I expect Worps to improve again and if not become elite - then be very close to it
Everyone is into Zerrett in a year where his contract most definately maybe a distraction.....Im going with Worpel instead - IMO - better value, less risk, greater potential for PPG increase which is what SC is all about
Good feedback Bowyanger - thanks. Thought Worpel might have developed more last year, and definitely see the opportunity for ppg growth this year. Whether he is worth the risk maybe, for me would be Rowell v Worpel at M5. I am not as convinced as many on Rowell. Really still a first year player and expect his consistency to be suspect over a full year. However given what he has demonstrated he may be the one in 100 year player to pull it off.
Quote from: crowls on February 25, 2021, 10:08:49 AM
Quote from: bowyanger on February 24, 2021, 05:54:31 PM
Most times, and teams, I would agree with this but the Hawks had a few retirements and have a few injuries, Isaac Smith left...their starting 22 will have a bunch of new faces this year
Lets see who I can think of that wont be Rd1 but played last year in the starting 22...
Poppy, Patton, Gunston, Sicily, Smith , Stratton, Wingard, Frawley, Henderson & Scully
If Downie doesnt start Rd 1 then Ill eat my hat, the Hawks will be scraping together a team when the season starts...
I expect Kosi to play a few & Moore to play on the wing a bit.
Greaves & CJ to feature often and Phillips on the other wing.
McGuiness to be unleashed
That still leaves 3 holes to fill if Grainger Barrass gets blooded early
Not a rookie but on a side note....
Worpel getting coached by one of the best midfielders the club has seen (Sam Mitchell), I expect Worps to improve again and if not become elite - then be very close to it
Everyone is into Zerrett in a year where his contract most definately maybe a distraction.....Im going with Worpel instead - IMO - better value, less risk, greater potential for PPG increase which is what SC is all about
Good feedback Bowyanger - thanks. Thought Worpel might have developed more last year, and definitely see the opportunity for ppg growth this year. Whether he is worth the risk maybe, for me would be Rowell v Worpel at M5. I am not as convinced as many on Rowell. Really still a first year player and expect his consistency to be suspect over a full year. However given what he has demonstrated he may be the one in 100 year player to pull it off.
Worps or Rowell...flip a coin really
Gotta remember, Worpel hasnt played 50 games yet
Pay abit more and get Cripps or Walsh
Quote from: JBs-Hawks on February 25, 2021, 02:57:53 PM
Pay abit more and get Cripps or Walsh
Probably the best approach and downgrade only if cash poor. JB - Q without notice - total points for year - Cripps or Walsh.
Walsh I reckon
I watched the Nth V Saints pratice match on line today and Charlie Lazzaro (Nth) looked lively
Oliver Henry looking like the only Pie rookie in with a chance for a R1 start and Cockatoo looks no chance still battling a hamstring.
Jordan Clark played predominantly on the wing and is listed at 200k. I'm thinking we're going to be starting the Dow/Clark types this year
I’ve been saying it all pre-season... the Rookies aren’t there.
Yes, there are 10 - 12... but not the 15 - 16 we need for a Guns ‘n Rookies set-up.
I currently have only 3 sub-200k Rookies starting, with zero in Defense.
Quote from: Mat0369 on February 26, 2021, 07:44:44 PM
Jordan Clark played predominantly on the wing and is listed at 200k. I'm thinking we're going to be starting the Dow/Clark types this year
Clarke 241K and have him sitting at M6 currently but think he is still fighting for a wing spot with Smith joining the club.
Quote from: Colley Dogs on February 26, 2021, 11:02:25 PM
I’ve been saying it all pre-season... the Rookies aren’t there.
Yes, there are 10 - 12... but not the 15 - 16 we need for a Guns ‘n Rookies set-up.
I currently have only 3 sub-200k Rookies starting, with zero in Defense.
Still think G and R team is on course from the Pies we have Kelly and Henry looking likely think there will be a couple of North ones pop up I think Downie from the Hawks that's 5 from 3 teams but we will have to have more 200K types like Impey , Dow , Daniher players in this year so with the five I mentioned plus 3 200K players that makes 8 leaves 7 or 8 more from 15 teams think we will be fine ;)
Quote from: shaker on February 27, 2021, 09:11:40 AM
Quote from: Colley Dogs on February 26, 2021, 11:02:25 PM
I’ve been saying it all pre-season... the Rookies aren’t there.
Yes, there are 10 - 12... but not the 15 - 16 we need for a Guns ‘n Rookies set-up.
I currently have only 3 sub-200k Rookies starting, with zero in Defense.
Still think G and R team is on course from the Pies we have Kelly and Henry looking likely think there will be a couple of North ones pop up I think Downie from the Hawks that's 5 from 3 teams but we will have to have more 200K types like Impey , Dow , Daniher players in this year so with the five I mentioned plus 3 200K players that makes 8 leaves 7 or 8 more from 15 teams think we will be fine ;)
Hope you’re right, Shaker.
Easy to pivot back to G n R. Harder to go the other way if you have a selection of Rookie defenders from the Sunday games.
Hopefully clubs help us out by doing the marketing thing, and name their debutants in the lead up.
Wehr played in the 2s today.
Lachlan Jones played in the 1s, and by all accounts looked like he belonged.
I have Hayden Young F6, with Cox and Jones on the bench.
Am I the only one who believes the defensive Rookies aren’t there? (They’re there in talent, but not job security).
Is everyone still confident starting with 1, 2, or 3 defensive Rookies on the field?
Usually, I’m on the same page as the everyone... but maybe my radar is off this year??
Honestly, it's still too early to know
We're just wasting our time playing around with teams atm - hopefully we'll start to get a much clearer picture re the rookie situation over the coming weeks
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on February 27, 2021, 11:42:41 PM
Honestly, it's still too early to know
We're just wasting our time playing around with teams atm - hopefully we'll start to get a much clearer picture re the rookie situation over the coming weeks
+1
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on February 27, 2021, 11:42:41 PM
Honestly, it's still too early to know
We're just wasting our time playing around with teams atm - hopefully we'll start to get a much clearer picture re the rookie situation over the coming weeks
I’m sure you’re right, RD. But usually three weeks out from the season opener our structure is pretty much set. We rely on the pre-season comp for X v. Y with our Rookies, and fallen premiums.
This season the lack of JS among the defensive Rookies will 100% challenge the structure of teams, imo.
This is a new normal... and everyone’s treating it like business as usual.
Anyway... I’ll go away now. I can see I’m on a different wave length to everyone.
(Probably I’m way off base and I’ll have my worst season ever... and next season I’ll crawl back with my tail between my legs :D)
Quote from: shaker on February 27, 2021, 09:02:32 AM
Clarke 241K and have him sitting at M6 currently but think he is still fighting for a wing spot with Smith joining the club.
One of the reasons he stayed with the Cats is because he was promised more game time. Smith did miss the game and you also have Duncan/Menegola to rotate through the wings but I think he might stick.
Quote from: Mat0369 on February 28, 2021, 01:17:43 AM
Quote from: shaker on February 27, 2021, 09:02:32 AM
Clarke 241K and have him sitting at M6 currently but think he is still fighting for a wing spot with Smith joining the club.
One of the reasons he stayed with the Cats is because he was promised more game time. Smith did miss the game and you also have Duncan/Menegola to rotate through the wings but I think he might stick.
I'm thinking he will play a more half back role he did a couple of nice things in the scratch match will watch the community match with interest.
Forward and back rookies seem solid enough, but to me, at this stage, midfield rookies is slim pickings
Quote from: bkimm32 on February 28, 2021, 11:32:34 AM
Forward and back rookies seem solid enough, but to me, at this stage, midfield rookies is slim pickings
Back rookies? I don't think there is even one you can comfortably say is best 22.
Yeah I'm starting to think a Cumming type will bd be needed at D5
As of today, the only def rookies that seem to be somewhat of a remote chance imo are Jones and Highmore, and even that's a stretch
Let's hope that some of Edwards, Bianco, Gould, Wehr etc get named. Either way, for now, I think we need to look at the possibility of having Jones D6, and someone like Hayden Young at D5. Not ideal at all, but we can't be too surprised with most new rookies not playing last year which in turn limits their chances of an early debut
Stacked def and super light fwd line looking likely
Quote from: Colley Dogs on February 27, 2021, 11:09:51 PM
Wehr played in the 2s today.
Lachlan Jones played in the 1s, and by all accounts looked like he belonged.
I have Hayden Young F6, with Cox and Jones on the bench.
Am I the only one who believes the defensive Rookies aren’t there? (They’re there in talent, but not job security).
Is everyone still confident starting with 1, 2, or 3 defensive Rookies on the field?
Usually, I’m on the same page as the everyone... but maybe my radar is off this year??
;)
Hate to jinx you Colley, but at this point of time I am in full agreement with you. My current defence is:-
Lloyd, Laird, C Mills, L Duggan, H Young, L Jones // T Highmore, J Wehr
Have a much weakened forward line. But as a positive only have L Jones, T Powell and O Henry or J Rowe on the field , so only 3 playing rookies. Something to work back from if our worst nightmares don't come to fruition. Like you I would rather work back to Gun' n rookies than vice versa
::)
Quote from: Sabretooth Tigers on February 28, 2021, 02:40:04 PM
Quote from: Colley Dogs on February 27, 2021, 11:09:51 PM
Wehr played in the 2s today.
Lachlan Jones played in the 1s, and by all accounts looked like he belonged.
I have Hayden Young F6, with Cox and Jones on the bench.
Am I the only one who believes the defensive Rookies aren’t there? (They’re there in talent, but not job security).
Is everyone still confident starting with 1, 2, or 3 defensive Rookies on the field?
Usually, I’m on the same page as the everyone... but maybe my radar is off this year??
;)
Hate to jinx you Colley, but at this point of time I am in full agreement with you. My current defence is:-
Lloyd, Laird, C Mills, L Duggan, H Young, L Jones // T Highmore, J Wehr
Have a much weakened forward line. But as a positive only have L Jones, T Powell and O Henry or J Rowe on the field , so only 3 playing rookies. Something to work back from if our worst nightmares don't come to fruition. Like you I would rather work back to Gun' n rookies than vice versa
::)
Actually relieved to see a little consensus regarding the defensive rookies.
I’m still one step further along than most... with Hayden Young at D6, and Jones at D7.
But I feel a whole lot better about my reading of the situation. I thought I was going crazy.
As you say ST... easy to back out of this into GnR if 3+ are named. But I don’t see it.
:)
Quote from: Colley Dogs on March 01, 2021, 11:23:30 PM
Quote from: Sabretooth Tigers on February 28, 2021, 02:40:04 PM
Quote from: Colley Dogs on February 27, 2021, 11:09:51 PM
Wehr played in the 2s today.
Lachlan Jones played in the 1s, and by all accounts looked like he belonged.
I have Hayden Young F6, with Cox and Jones on the bench.
Am I the only one who believes the defensive Rookies aren’t there? (They’re there in talent, but not job security).
Is everyone still confident starting with 1, 2, or 3 defensive Rookies on the field?
Usually, I’m on the same page as the everyone... but maybe my radar is off this year??
;)
Hate to jinx you Colley, but at this point of time I am in full agreement with you. My current defence is:-
Lloyd, Laird, C Mills, L Duggan, H Young, L Jones // T Highmore, J Wehr
Have a much weakened forward line. But as a positive only have L Jones, T Powell and O Henry or J Rowe on the field , so only 3 playing rookies. Something to work back from if our worst nightmares don't come to fruition. Like you I would rather work back to Gun' n rookies than vice versa
::)
Actually relieved to see a little consensus regarding the defensive rookies.
I’m still one step further along than most... with Hayden Young at D6, and Jones at D7.
But I feel a whole lot better about my reading of the situation. I thought I was going crazy.
As you say ST... easy to back out of this into GnR if 3+ are named. But I don’t see it.
:)
Ditto!
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on February 28, 2021, 01:50:04 PM
As of today, the only def rookies that seem to be somewhat of a remote chance imo are Jones and Highmore, and even that's a stretch
Let's hope that some of Edwards, Bianco, Gould, Wehr etc get named. Either way, for now, I think we need to look at the possibility of having Jones D6, and someone like Hayden Young at D5. Not ideal at all, but we can't be too surprised with most new rookies not playing last year which in turn limits their chances of an early debut
Stacked def and super light fwd line looking likely
You're slipping RD. Cox is a shoe in to play round 1 and the perfect D6.
Quote from: bkimm32 on February 28, 2021, 11:32:34 AM
Forward and back rookies seem solid enough, but to me, at this stage, midfield rookies is slim pickings
LOL.
Not sure if you're serious.
Lloyd Laird Mills Short Duggen Cox Kotsch Highmore current setup. Feels crazy.
Quote from: Judd Magic on March 02, 2021, 12:59:55 AM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on February 28, 2021, 01:50:04 PM
As of today, the only def rookies that seem to be somewhat of a remote chance imo are Jones and Highmore, and even that's a stretch
Let's hope that some of Edwards, Bianco, Gould, Wehr etc get named. Either way, for now, I think we need to look at the possibility of having Jones D6, and someone like Hayden Young at D5. Not ideal at all, but we can't be too surprised with most new rookies not playing last year which in turn limits their chances of an early debut
Stacked def and super light fwd line looking likely
You're slipping RD. Cox is a shoe in to play round 1 and the perfect D6.
Haha, yeah by all reports he is a lock to play, but 170k+ for a guy who probably won't score well isn't exactly appealing to me, which is why I didn't even mention him, but we might not have a choice and he could be a forced selection
Other than Rowell and Walsh, I can't think of any other recent expensive rookies that actually turned out to be good picks, which is why I try to avoid them at all costs
Quote from: Judd Magic on March 02, 2021, 01:04:26 AM
Quote from: bkimm32 on February 28, 2021, 11:32:34 AM
Forward and back rookies seem solid enough, but to me, at this stage, midfield rookies is slim pickings
LOL.
Not sure if you're serious.
Couldn’t be more serious
Rookies also inclusive of 200k cows (Daniher and Impey etc)
Quote from: bkimm32 on March 02, 2021, 11:10:58 AM
Quote from: Judd Magic on March 02, 2021, 01:04:26 AM
Quote from: bkimm32 on February 28, 2021, 11:32:34 AM
Forward and back rookies seem solid enough, but to me, at this stage, midfield rookies is slim pickings
LOL.
Not sure if you're serious.
Couldn’t be more serious
Rookies also inclusive of 200k cows (Daniher and Impey etc)
Daniher and Impey are excellent Rookie priced players.
Can you please tell me two equally excellent Defensive Rookies??
Quote from: Colley Dogs on March 02, 2021, 12:29:30 PM
Quote from: bkimm32 on March 02, 2021, 11:10:58 AM
Quote from: Judd Magic on March 02, 2021, 01:04:26 AM
Quote from: bkimm32 on February 28, 2021, 11:32:34 AM
Forward and back rookies seem solid enough, but to me, at this stage, midfield rookies is slim pickings
LOL.
Not sure if you're serious.
Couldn’t be more serious
Rookies also inclusive of 200k cows (Daniher and Impey etc)
Daniher and Impey are excellent Rookie priced players.
Can you please tell me two equally excellent Defensive Rookies??
Clark and Hamill. If the defensive rookies are that much of a worry use your non playing loophole player in defence that's one less you have to worry about.
Quote from: Colley Dogs on March 02, 2021, 12:29:30 PM
Quote from: bkimm32 on March 02, 2021, 11:10:58 AM
Quote from: Judd Magic on March 02, 2021, 01:04:26 AM
Quote from: bkimm32 on February 28, 2021, 11:32:34 AM
Forward and back rookies seem solid enough, but to me, at this stage, midfield rookies is slim pickings
LOL.
Not sure if you're serious.
Couldn’t be more serious
Rookies also inclusive of 200k cows (Daniher and Impey etc)
Daniher and Impey are excellent Rookie priced players.
Can you please tell me two equally excellent Defensive Rookies??
There likely isn’t any defensive options that will be AS GOOD as Daniher (if he stays fit) and Impey but Young, Cox and Highmore each look to present pretty damn good value atm.
I just don’t see it in the midfield rookies. The high midfield draft picks this season (Phillips, Hollands, Perkins etc.) represent more risk than years gone by - due to no top aged under 18 exposed form. There isn’t as many notable mature aged state league rookie midfielders that look like they will be walk in best 22 players either, unlike in previous seasons.
I just think the midfield rookie priced players are really thin. We will know more by the end of the pre-season games, but this is just my initial thoughts. I’ve seen some teams on here and my structure is completely different, I currently have H. Young at d3 and I’m more than comfortable with that. He may move out to d4 by the time round 1 rolls around, but as of now I’m quite happy to go VERY lean in defense, trusting in the rookies. Every year the defensive premiums change massively a compared to other lines, I don’t want to be stuck with players like Laird, Stewart, Mills or Haynes when some other up and comers like Clark, Coffield or Duggan etc. may go past them as top 6 defenders.
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on March 02, 2021, 09:08:34 AM
Quote from: Judd Magic on March 02, 2021, 12:59:55 AM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on February 28, 2021, 01:50:04 PM
As of today, the only def rookies that seem to be somewhat of a remote chance imo are Jones and Highmore, and even that's a stretch
Let's hope that some of Edwards, Bianco, Gould, Wehr etc get named. Either way, for now, I think we need to look at the possibility of having Jones D6, and someone like Hayden Young at D5. Not ideal at all, but we can't be too surprised with most new rookies not playing last year which in turn limits their chances of an early debut
Stacked def and super light fwd line looking likely
You're slipping RD. Cox is a shoe in to play round 1 and the perfect D6.
Haha, yeah by all reports he is a lock to play, but 170k+ for a guy who probably won't score well isn't exactly appealing to me, which is why I didn't even mention him, but we might not have a choice and he could be a forced selection
Other than Rowell and Walsh, I can't think of any other recent expensive rookies that actually turned out to be good picks, which is why I try to avoid them at all costs
What about Bailey Smith, Serong, Rozee
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on February 28, 2021, 01:50:04 PM
As of today, the only def rookies that seem to be somewhat of a remote chance imo are Jones and Highmore, and even that's a stretch
Let's hope that some of Edwards, Bianco, Gould, Wehr etc get named. Either way, for now, I think we need to look at the possibility of having Jones D6, and someone like Hayden Young at D5. Not ideal at all, but we can't be too surprised with most new rookies not playing last year which in turn limits their chances of an early debut
Stacked def and super light fwd line looking likely
Sorry, couldn’t disagree more
Quote from: bkimm32 on March 02, 2021, 01:26:27 PM
Quote from: Colley Dogs on March 02, 2021, 12:29:30 PM
Quote from: bkimm32 on March 02, 2021, 11:10:58 AM
Quote from: Judd Magic on March 02, 2021, 01:04:26 AM
Quote from: bkimm32 on February 28, 2021, 11:32:34 AM
Forward and back rookies seem solid enough, but to me, at this stage, midfield rookies is slim pickings
LOL.
Not sure if you're serious.
Couldn’t be more serious
Rookies also inclusive of 200k cows (Daniher and Impey etc)
Daniher and Impey are excellent Rookie priced players.
Can you please tell me two equally excellent Defensive Rookies??
There likely isn’t any that defensive options that will be as good as Daniher (if he stays fit) and Impey but Young, Wehr and Highmore look to present pretty damn good value atm.
I just don’t see it in the midfield rookies. The high midfield draft picks this season (Phillips, Hollands, Perkins etc.) represent more risk than years gone by due to no top age under 18 exposed form. There isn’t as many notable mature aged state league rookie midfielders that look like they will be walk in best 22 players.
I just think the midfield rookie priced players are really thin. We will know more by the end of the pre-season games, but this is just my initial thoughts.
Agree with you about the Midfield Rookies... but less confident about the defensive Rookies.
Of the three you named, Young is the only one with job security at the moment (I’m assuming you mean North’s Young, and not Freo’s young). If Wehr, Highmore, Jones, Gould start, they offer great value. But I don’t see them being named. And if they’re named, I’m predicting omissions soon after. Can definitely see a revolving door scenario down back, which is a Supercoach nightmare.
I’m therefore running with Harmes at D5 & Hayden Young at D6, with Jones & Wehr on the bench.
In the mids, I’m running with two on-field Rookies. Along with the bench, here are my current five:
Ralphsmith; Gulden; Campbell; Powell; Ely Smith
Quote from: Colley Dogs on March 02, 2021, 01:40:43 PM
Quote from: bkimm32 on March 02, 2021, 01:26:27 PM
Quote from: Colley Dogs on March 02, 2021, 12:29:30 PM
Quote from: bkimm32 on March 02, 2021, 11:10:58 AM
Quote from: Judd Magic on March 02, 2021, 01:04:26 AM
Quote from: bkimm32 on February 28, 2021, 11:32:34 AM
Forward and back rookies seem solid enough, but to me, at this stage, midfield rookies is slim pickings
LOL.
Not sure if you're serious.
Couldn’t be more serious
Rookies also inclusive of 200k cows (Daniher and Impey etc)
Daniher and Impey are excellent Rookie priced players.
Can you please tell me two equally excellent Defensive Rookies??
There likely isn’t any that defensive options that will be as good as Daniher (if he stays fit) and Impey but Young, Wehr and Highmore look to present pretty damn good value atm.
I just don’t see it in the midfield rookies. The high midfield draft picks this season (Phillips, Hollands, Perkins etc.) represent more risk than years gone by due to no top age under 18 exposed form. There isn’t as many notable mature aged state league rookie midfielders that look like they will be walk in best 22 players.
I just think the midfield rookie priced players are really thin. We will know more by the end of the pre-season games, but this is just my initial thoughts.
Agree with you about the Midfield Rookies... but less confident about the defensive Rookies.
Of the three you named, Young is the only one with job security at the moment (I’m assuming you mean North’s Young, and not Freo’s young). If Wehr, Highmore, Jones, Gould start, they offer great value. But I don’t see them being named. And if they’re named, I’m predicting omissions soon after. Can definitely see a revolving door scenario down back, which is a Supercoach nightmare.
I’m therefore running with Harmes at D5 & Hayden Young at D6, with Jones & Wehr on the bench.
In the mids, I’m running with two on-field Rookies. Along with the bench, here are my current five:
Ralphsmith; Gulden; Campbell; Powell; Ely Smith
I meant Hayden from Freo but both fit the argument I guess
I’m a Saints fan and I’m predicting Highmore to play very early and play well. He’s going to be very similar to Calum Wilkie and I’d have 22 of him in our team.
I think Hayden Young’s an excellent solution for D6 imo (although I’d categorize him as a low end mid-pricer).
Bkimm... Do you think Frawley keeps out Highmore early?
The challenge isn’t only in finding a rookie that might start at D6... it’s in finding two on the bench that will play enough to make us cash.
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I think Hayden Young’s an excellent solution for D6 imo (although I’d categorize him as a low end mid-pricer).
Bkimm... Do you think Frawley keeps out Highmore early?
The challenge isn’t only in finding a rookie that might start at D6... it’s in finding two on the bench that will play enough to make us cash.
Completely different types of players. Frawley and Carlisle will be wrestling for the FB spot. I’d take Carlisle personally but Frawley was nice in our practice match against the Roos.
With the season ending injury to Paton, it opens up a small defensive spot, which Webster and Highmore will be fighting it out for. Webster has the runs on the board from 2018 but he fell out of favour in 2020 after an injury riddled 2019. He was a gun player, but I think maybe times up for him. Highmore obviously isn’t a small defender, but he will assume Wilkies role as an intercepting-rebounder and Wilkie will play Patons role as a small shut down defender. From all reports, Highmore has been ticking all the boxes, he took some great grabs running back with the flight in our practice match. He’s so similar to Wilkie in so many different ways, and I think he will have a huge start to his career just like Wilkie did. In saying all that, Coffield also plays a similar role to them, as an intercept/rebounder, so they may go for Webster over Highmore as more pure attacking defender.
That’s how I see it anyway.
Waterman 102k fwd... nice cash grab
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Quote from: Colley Dogs on March 02, 2021, 02:22:45 PM
I think Hayden Young’s an excellent solution for D6 imo (although I’d categorize him as a low end mid-pricer).
Bkimm... Do you think Frawley keeps out Highmore early?
The challenge isn’t only in finding a rookie that might start at D6... it’s in finding two on the bench that will play enough to make us cash.
Completely different types of players. Frawley and Carlisle will be wrestling for the FB spot. I’d take Carlisle personally but Frawley was nice in our practice match against the Roos.
With the season ending injury to Paton, it opens up a small defensive spot, which Webster and Highmore will be fighting it out for. Webster has the runs on the board from 2018 but he fell out of favour in 2020 after an injury riddled 2019. He was a gun player, but I think maybe times up for him. Highmore obviously isn’t a small defender, but he will assume Wilkies role as an intercepting-rebounder and Wilkie will play Patons role as a small shut down defender. From all reports, Highmore has been ticking all the boxes, he took some great grabs running back with the flight in our practice match. He’s so similar to Wilkie in so many different ways, and I think he will have a huge start to his career just like Wilkie did. In saying all that, Coffield also plays a similar role to them, as an intercept/rebounder, so they may go for Webster over Highmore as more pure attacking defender.
That’s how I see it anyway.
Appreciate the insight. Thank you.
Tyler Brockman looking good for the Hawks 3 goals in opening quarter
Brockman looked amazing. I'd probably lock him in ahead of Downie at this point
Lock Kosi in on the bench in defence
Quote from: Mat0369 on March 06, 2021, 05:54:03 PM
Brockman looked amazing. I'd probably lock him in ahead of Downie at this point
Didn’t watch it but Brockman had 10 possessions (3 goals) Downie had 17 possessions.
Majority of Brockman's touches came in that first quarter. Downie wkn a bit of the ball at the start of the third but his disposal was awful.
Is Jordan Clarke a lock at his price
Only thing that worries me with Clark is his role when Duncan gets back but you would think so. I had him in my midfield and have now moved him into defence considering the lack of rookie defenders
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Is Jordan Clarke a lock at his price
I'd like to think so, I had him locked in early on but now getting worried about his job security. He's only playing a half by the looks tonight and the cats seem intent on playing two 32+ year olds on the wings in Smith and Higgins with Duncan still to come back in.
He's in the mix bit not a lock for me now. Is Jiath an option for the Hawks at a similar price? I didn't see the Hawks game, is that intercepting role sustainable for him? What's his js like?
Briggs has destroyed Hickey. He has probably played himself into the spot for round 1.
Hickey is also freaking awful. They're better off playing Sinkers
I wish I trust GWS to play their young guys because they look to have some good ones. Briggs, Bruhn and Buckley have all been excellent
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I wish I trust GWS to play their young guys because they look to have some good ones. Briggs, Bruhn and Buckley have all been excellent
It looks as though Briggs will get a game before Flynn
Flynn had a sore hamstring which is why he didn't play today. Briggs has had a really good game so I don't know how he doesn't get the spot round 1.
Gulden has also looked good with the ball in his hand. He looks like he doesn't need a ton of touches to impact a game
Chad Warner $144k fwd anyone
Yeah saw him as well. I've been tinkering with my rookies all day and he was able to find a lot of the ball. I moved him onto my forward bench for Treacy
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Chad Warner $144k fwd anyone
Really like what I saw from him today - he's in for now
Mid and fwd rookies are turning up in droves. Def rookies however...I think we're down to 3 cheapies? An exxy rookie type (Clark/Young/Cox) at D5 is shaping up to be a must.
Smith not named for the Lions
So of the guys 250k and under, who has impressed? I have the following
DEF
Clark (also mid)
Buckley (also mid)
Idun
Butts
Guthrie (47 in a half)
Jones (43 in a half)
Briggs (also a forward)
Kosi
Highmore
Mid
Tyson
O'Neill (also forward)
Dow (also forward)
O'Halloran (only played a quarter for 23)
Campbell (also forward)
LOB (39 in 30% game time)
Bruhn
Powell
Brockman (also forward)
Downie (found a lot of the ball in the third quarter)
Gulden
Rucks
Meek
Forwards
Hanrahan
Impey
McDonald
Henry (34 in 34% TOG)
Fredrick (last years super spud)
Warner
Bergman
Rowe
Of the guys on the list the ones I currently have in my side are
Clark, Briggs, Kosi, Highmore, Dow, Campbell, Bruhn, Powell, Brockman, Gulden, Meek, Impey, Warner, Bergman and Rowe.
Someone told me that team announcements will be the same as last year and only put up 24 hours before games don't know if that is true? if that is true we will only see Sunday teams 1 hour before the 2 Saturday night games and that makes it more difficult with picking rookies in the early games where we used to at least know if rookies had made the squad for Sunday games on Fridays ?
Can anyone confirm that this is the case?
Yes shaker, 24 hours before, same as last year >:(
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Yes shaker, 24 hours before, same as last year >:(
Damn this could be a tricky start to the season.
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Yes shaker, 24 hours before, same as last year >:(
A bird in the hand is the way to go, if named & playing early then lock in.
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Yes shaker, 24 hours before, same as last year >:(
A bird in the hand is the way to go, if named & playing early then lock in.
Even if on bench and use loophole.
Quote from: shaker on March 08, 2021, 09:57:55 AM
Someone told me that team announcements will be the same as last year and only put up 24 hours before games don't know if that is true? if that is true we will only see Sunday teams 1 hour before the 2 Saturday night games and that makes it more difficult with picking rookies in the early games where we used to at least know if rookies had made the squad for Sunday games on Fridays ?
Can anyone confirm that this is the case?
I just realised how much of a mess this is going to be unless teams announce rookies heading into Round 1.
Giants, Saints, North, Port, Eagles and Suns all playing on Sunday.
So Briggs, Bruhn, Flynn, Highmore, Powell, Bergman and Jones all guys that we would be looking at in some capacity
Anthony Scott any chance Rd1
Do we think Dow is a lock? I just removed him from my team for a base priced rookie as I needed the extra cash to upgrade elsewhere. I just don’t see it with him personally. I think he could still be in and out of that Carlton side
Quote from: bkimm32 on March 09, 2021, 11:29:06 AM
Do we think Dow is a lock? I just removed him from my team for a base priced rookie as I needed the extra cash to upgrade elsewhere. I just don’t see it with him personally. I think he could still be in and out of that Carlton side
42 games & never hit 80, that is all the information I need
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Quote from: bkimm32 on March 09, 2021, 11:29:06 AM
Do we think Dow is a lock? I just removed him from my team for a base priced rookie as I needed the extra cash to upgrade elsewhere. I just don’t see it with him personally. I think he could still be in and out of that Carlton side
42 games & never hit 80, that is all the information I need
Understandable. What’s the alternative though? Do you really want Impey, leading to 4 hawks rookies? That’s why I’m thinking about holding onto Dow despite his mediocre scoring record.
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Do we think Dow is a lock? I just removed him from my team for a base priced rookie as I needed the extra cash to upgrade elsewhere. I just don’t see it with him personally. I think he could still be in and out of that Carlton side
42 games & never hit 80, that is all the information I need
Understandable. What’s the alternative though? Do you really want Impey, leading to 4 hawks rookies? That’s why I’m thinking about holding onto Dow despite his mediocre scoring record.
So many forward rookies now popping up as possible Rd 1 starters. Brockman, Fullarton, Rowe, Bergman, Chandler, Campbell and Treacey maybe.
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Do we think Dow is a lock? I just removed him from my team for a base priced rookie as I needed the extra cash to upgrade elsewhere. I just don’t see it with him personally. I think he could still be in and out of that Carlton side
42 games & never hit 80, that is all the information I need
Understandable. What’s the alternative though? Do you really want Impey, leading to 4 hawks rookies? That’s why I’m thinking about holding onto Dow despite his mediocre scoring record.
Impey is best 22, Dow is not, that to me is the fundamental difference. Impey at F5 and then one of Rowe/Scott/E,Smith on the field.
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Do we think Dow is a lock? I just removed him from my team for a base priced rookie as I needed the extra cash to upgrade elsewhere. I just don’t see it with him personally. I think he could still be in and out of that Carlton side
42 games & never hit 80, that is all the information I need
Understandable. What’s the alternative though? Do you really want Impey, leading to 4 hawks rookies? That’s why I’m thinking about holding onto Dow despite his mediocre scoring record.
Impey is best 22, Dow is not, that to me is the fundamental difference. Impey at F5 and then one of Rowe/Scott/E,Smith on the field.
Is Impey definitely best 22 though?
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Do we think Dow is a lock? I just removed him from my team for a base priced rookie as I needed the extra cash to upgrade elsewhere. I just don’t see it with him personally. I think he could still be in and out of that Carlton side
42 games & never hit 80, that is all the information I need
Understandable. What’s the alternative though? Do you really want Impey, leading to 4 hawks rookies? That’s why I’m thinking about holding onto Dow despite his mediocre scoring record.
Impey is best 22, Dow is not, that to me is the fundamental difference. Impey at F5 and then one of Rowe/Scott/E,Smith on the field.
Is Impey definitely best 22 though?
Much better security than Dow, can always swap them in round 3 as a correction trade.
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Do we think Dow is a lock? I just removed him from my team for a base priced rookie as I needed the extra cash to upgrade elsewhere. I just don’t see it with him personally. I think he could still be in and out of that Carlton side
42 games & never hit 80, that is all the information I need
Understandable. What’s the alternative though? Do you really want Impey, leading to 4 hawks rookies? That’s why I’m thinking about holding onto Dow despite his mediocre scoring record.
Impey is best 22, Dow is not, that to me is the fundamental difference. Impey at F5 and then one of Rowe/Scott/E,Smith on the field.
Is Impey definitely best 22 though?
Much better security than Dow, can always swap them in round 3 as a correction trade.
I’m not doubting that about Dow, imo his JS is very shaky at best.
Also, is it back to a 3 round average this season??
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Quote from: bkimm32 on March 09, 2021, 11:29:06 AM
Do we think Dow is a lock? I just removed him from my team for a base priced rookie as I needed the extra cash to upgrade elsewhere. I just don’t see it with him personally. I think he could still be in and out of that Carlton side
42 games & never hit 80, that is all the information I need
Understandable. What’s the alternative though? Do you really want Impey, leading to 4 hawks rookies? That’s why I’m thinking about holding onto Dow despite his mediocre scoring record.
Impey is best 22, Dow is not, that to me is the fundamental difference. Impey at F5 and then one of Rowe/Scott/E,Smith on the field.
Is Impey definitely best 22 though?
Much better security than Dow, can always swap them in round 3 as a correction trade.
I’m not doubting that about Dow, imo his JS is very shaky at best.
Also, is it back to a 3 round average this season??
I believe so.
Dow is one of the worst players in the comp
Absolute butcher
Impey is a lock for me. Best 22 and 70+ is certainly achievable and reasonable
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on March 09, 2021, 04:38:11 PM
Dow is one of the worst players in the comp
Absolute butcher
Impey is a lock for me. Best 22 and 70+ is certainly achievable and reasonable
I reckon both Impey & Daniher will hit 70, that would be a good result for rookie priced players.
Scott from the doggies might be a sneaky chance he looked ok couple of goals mature age fwd/mid 102K a couple of longer term injuries might help and see him get a gig R1.
Quote from: shaker on March 09, 2021, 06:01:10 PM
Scott from the doggies might be a sneaky chance he looked ok couple of goals mature age fwd/mid 102K a couple of longer term injuries might help and see him get a gig R1.
Banking on Scott or McNeill, don't think both will make it. Scott would be my preference.
I’ve got PTSD from Cavarra last season. If I’m taking a dodgy 102k rookie it’ll be Murray from Adelaide.
Quote from: IntegralX on March 09, 2021, 07:11:16 PM
I’ve got PTSD from Cavarra last season. If I’m taking a dodgy 102k rookie it’ll be Murray from Adelaide.
Murray is gone as soon as Talia returns, and he's not far off
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I’ve got PTSD from Cavarra last season. If I’m taking a dodgy 102k rookie it’ll be Murray from Adelaide.
Murray is gone as soon as Talia returns, and he's not far off
Not sure about that. Hartigans spot is up for grabs after all, and we all know McAsey was dreadful last season.
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I’ve got PTSD from Cavarra last season. If I’m taking a dodgy 102k rookie it’ll be Murray from Adelaide.
Murray is gone as soon as Talia returns, and he's not far off
Not sure about that. Hartigans spot is up for grabs after all, and we all know McAsey was dreadful last season.
I think Butts has that spot
Guess we'll find out
I would think Talia, Butts and Doedee are their key backs
Looks like Paul Hunter is going to get some serious game time early now
My rucks may become Grunter Flynn ::)
Not sure if this is the right thread to ask this - but who is everyone using as their loophole player this year?
Quote from: TexR74 on March 10, 2021, 04:33:04 PM
Not sure if this is the right thread to ask this - but who is everyone using as their loophole player this year?
Flynn/Briggs
Quote from: Bully on March 10, 2021, 04:37:29 PM
Quote from: TexR74 on March 10, 2021, 04:33:04 PM
Not sure if this is the right thread to ask this - but who is everyone using as their loophole player this year?
Flynn/Briggs
Plans can go astray as we know. Plan to use one of Briggs/Tracey initially and assess as we go along.
Quote from: Ringo on March 10, 2021, 05:10:24 PM
Quote from: Bully on March 10, 2021, 04:37:29 PM
Quote from: TexR74 on March 10, 2021, 04:33:04 PM
Not sure if this is the right thread to ask this - but who is everyone using as their loophole player this year?
Flynn/Briggs
Plans can go astray as we know. Plan to use one of Briggs/Tracey initially and assess as we go along.
Yes, plenty to unfold as we head to round 1. I must admit I love the potential of the Briggs/Flynn combo, floating donut plus $$ to be made.
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Quote from: Bully on March 10, 2021, 04:37:29 PM
Quote from: TexR74 on March 10, 2021, 04:33:04 PM
Not sure if this is the right thread to ask this - but who is everyone using as their loophole player this year?
Flynn/Briggs
Plans can go astray as we know. Plan to use one of Briggs/Tracey initially and assess as we go along.
Yes, plenty to unfold as we head to round 1. I must admit I love the potential of the Briggs/Flynn combo, floating donut plus $$ to be made.
Yep I have Flynn at R3 and Briggs at D8. Worst case scenario if both not playing easy downgrade to Meek Rd 3 as correctional trade.
Quote from: Bully on March 10, 2021, 05:13:39 PM
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Quote from: Bully on March 10, 2021, 04:37:29 PM
Quote from: TexR74 on March 10, 2021, 04:33:04 PM
Not sure if this is the right thread to ask this - but who is everyone using as their loophole player this year?
Flynn/Briggs
Plans can go astray as we know. Plan to use one of Briggs/Tracey initially and assess as we go along.
Yes, plenty to unfold as we head to round 1. I must admit I love the potential of the Briggs/Flynn combo, floating donut plus $$ to be made.
ATM I have a 102K GWS DEF. seeing that seems to be where the rookie shortage is but would prefer a MID. just depends on who gets a game.
Quote from: Bully on March 10, 2021, 05:13:39 PM
Quote from: Ringo on March 10, 2021, 05:10:24 PM
Quote from: Bully on March 10, 2021, 04:37:29 PM
Quote from: TexR74 on March 10, 2021, 04:33:04 PM
Not sure if this is the right thread to ask this - but who is everyone using as their loophole player this year?
Flynn/Briggs
Plans can go astray as we know. Plan to use one of Briggs/Tracey initially and assess as we go along.
Yes, plenty to unfold as we head to round 1. I must admit I love the potential of the Briggs/Flynn combo, floating donut plus $$ to be made.
It just feels pure wrong not having both Grundy and Gawn to begin with.
Quote from: bkimm32 on March 10, 2021, 03:45:18 PM
Looks like Paul Hunter is going to get some serious game time early now
Yep straight into R3 Marshall listed as 2-4 weeks and with Paddy seeming to be gone for a fair bit seems like a no brainer even when Marshall comes back I doubt they will want rucking on that foot for long periods.
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Quote from: bkimm32 on March 10, 2021, 03:45:18 PM
Looks like Paul Hunter is going to get some serious game time early now
Yep straight into R3 Marshall listed as 2-4 weeks and with Paddy seeming to be gone for a fair bit seems like a no brainer even when Marshall comes back I doubt they will want rucking on that foot for long periods.
at 102k he's hard to refuse, that 20k can make a difference
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Quote from: Ringo on March 10, 2021, 05:10:24 PM
Quote from: Bully on March 10, 2021, 04:37:29 PM
Quote from: TexR74 on March 10, 2021, 04:33:04 PM
Not sure if this is the right thread to ask this - but who is everyone using as their loophole player this year?
Flynn/Briggs
Plans can go astray as we know. Plan to use one of Briggs/Tracey initially and assess as we go along.
Yes, plenty to unfold as we head to round 1. I must admit I love the potential of the Briggs/Flynn combo, floating donut plus $$ to be made.
ATM I have a 102K GWS DEF. seeing that seems to be where the rookie shortage is but would prefer a MID. just depends on who gets a game.
If it helps have a look at any Hawks player for this they have 5 Sunday games in the first 6 Rounds and the 6th is Saturday night.
Quote from: Bully on March 10, 2021, 05:13:39 PM
Quote from: Ringo on March 10, 2021, 05:10:24 PM
Quote from: Bully on March 10, 2021, 04:37:29 PM
Quote from: TexR74 on March 10, 2021, 04:33:04 PM
Not sure if this is the right thread to ask this - but who is everyone using as their loophole player this year?
Flynn/Briggs
Plans can go astray as we know. Plan to use one of Briggs/Tracey initially and assess as we go along.
Yes, plenty to unfold as we head to round 1. I must admit I love the potential of the Briggs/Flynn combo, floating donut plus $$ to be made.
If all goes well with the rookies selected and no donut will look at Hawks 102k mids as they have 5 Sunday games in the 6 rounds announced.
Paddy Ryder taking personal leave. Does this open things up for rookie Paul Hunter?
Quote from: Wanderer on March 10, 2021, 06:46:36 PM
Paddy Ryder taking personal leave. Does this open things up for rookie Paul Hunter?
You would think so - even once Marshall comes back.
Gawn and Hunter/Flynn tempting..
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Quote from: Wanderer on March 10, 2021, 06:46:36 PM
Paddy Ryder taking personal leave. Does this open things up for rookie Paul Hunter?
You would think so - even once Marshall comes back.
Gawn and Hunter/Flynn tempting..
Just remember though Marshall is possibly just a couple of weeks away which may effect Hunter
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Paddy Ryder taking personal leave. Does this open things up for rookie Paul Hunter?
You would think so - even once Marshall comes back.
Gawn and Hunter/Flynn tempting..
Just remember though Marshall is possibly just a couple of weeks away which may effect Hunter
Marshall expected back between rounds 2-4, so we will get an initial price increase from Hunter as number one ruck, then he will be relegated to backup. Marshall won't ruck the whole game solo coming back from a foot injury. They will most likely ease him in. It all depends on the other ruck rookie options vs Hunter at a juicy price of $102,400.
Quote from: jfitty on March 10, 2021, 06:48:35 PM
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Paddy Ryder taking personal leave. Does this open things up for rookie Paul Hunter?
You would think so - even once Marshall comes back.
Gawn and Hunter/Flynn tempting..
I’d say mckernan goes out when Marshall comes back as they both play that ruck/forward role, Hunter will be the #1 ruck until paddy returns I’d say
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Quote from: jfitty on March 10, 2021, 06:48:35 PM
Quote from: Wanderer on March 10, 2021, 06:46:36 PM
Paddy Ryder taking personal leave. Does this open things up for rookie Paul Hunter?
You would think so - even once Marshall comes back.
Gawn and Hunter/Flynn tempting..
I’d say mckernan goes out when Marshall comes back as they both play that ruck/forward role, Hunter will be the #1 ruck until paddy returns I’d say
I think it's the opposite - McKernan can play fwd and ruck, whereas Hunter can only ruck, so I'd be going with Roma/Smack until Ryder returns
Obviously I could be wrong, but Hunter looks like a massive trap to me
Meek and Flynn are the only rookie rucks I'm looking at, and Flynn R3/Briggs D is what I've settled on as one will play and the other can be my loophole, and if Meek looks a must after 2 rounds then I will reassess and look to get him
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Paddy Ryder taking personal leave. Does this open things up for rookie Paul Hunter?
You would think so - even once Marshall comes back.
Gawn and Hunter/Flynn tempting..
I’d say mckernan goes out when Marshall comes back as they both play that ruck/forward role, Hunter will be the #1 ruck until paddy returns I’d say
I think it's the opposite - McKernan can play fwd and ruck, whereas Hunter can only ruck, so I'd be going with Roma/Smack until Ryder returns
Obviously I could be wrong, but Hunter looks like a massive trap to me
Meek and Flynn are the only rookie rucks I'm looking at, and Flynn R3/Briggs D is what I've settled on as one will play and the other can be my loophole, and if Meek looks a must after 2 rounds then I will reassess and look to get him
I was thinking the same about Mckernan.
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My rucks may become Grunter Flynn ::)
I actually had that a fortnight ago and then Flynn didn't play in the last game and Briggs looked good, changed the structure entirely but the rest of my team looked amazing with Flynn at R2 and Hunter R3
McKernan is bloody awful. I know it's about structure but the wraps on Hunter have been huge and I can't see them throwing Marshall in for 70% ruck time with stress fractures in his foot. I think Hunter is a viable R3 option with Ryder out and I would pick him over Meek. If Flynn was named for Round 1 that changes things a little bit as he looks to have the best chance of making a spot his own long term. I'm going to value the cash gen early over the loophole.
Quote from: Mat0369 on March 10, 2021, 11:37:36 PM
McKernan is bloody awful. I know it's about structure but the wraps on Hunter have been huge and I can't see them throwing Marshall in for 70% ruck time with stress fractures in his foot. I think Hunter is a viable R3 option with Ryder out and I would pick him over Meek. If Flynn was named for Round 1 that changes things a little bit as he looks to have the best chance of making a spot his own long term. I'm going to value the cash gen early over the loophole.
There’s just no way Saints put that load on Marshall again, especially coming off a significant injury. We recruited Ryder for a reason.
Hunter's stats in the SANFL are huge, clearly he's a workhorse, I would expect at least half a dozen games & I'd expect him to score strongly. Ryder is ageing, Marshall has stress fractures, McKernan is a spud.
On the topic of Flynn, he's dominated the NEAFL, do we have any other stats on the guy? I can't get it out of my head that Mummy will come back from the dead.
Quote from: Bully on March 11, 2021, 03:39:56 AM
Hunter's stats in the SANFL are huge, clearly he's a workhorse, I would expect at least half a dozen games & I'd expect him to score strongly. Ryder is ageing, Marshall has stress fractures, McKernan is a spud.
On the topic of Flynn, he's dominated the NEAFL, do we have any other stats on the guy? I can't get it out of my head that Mummy will come back from the dead.
McKernan hasn’t looked too bad in the pre season. Has a nice set of hands and looks okay around the ground. There’s worse ruck/forwards in the league.
Paul Hunter $102,400 RUC
SC Average: 136 (Nine matches, SANFL)
AAMI Series score: 77 (76 per cent TOG)
An injury to Rowan Marshall saw former Adelaide Hunter elevated onto the St Kilda list via the pre-season supplementary selection period. The 28-year-old earned his spot with a strong showing in the ruck for the Saints’ ‘A’ side in a recent internal trial. Hunter was also prominent early against Carlton without Paddy Ryder â€" who has since taken personal leave from the club â€" tallying 13 disposals, 23 hit-outs and 77 KFC SuperCoach points. It means the ruck reins are Hunter’s for the taking until Marshall returns. The ruckman produced some insane SANFL numbers in 2020, averaging a whopping 136 KFC SuperCoach points along with 16.6 disposals, 11.6 contested possessions, 30.3 hit-outs and 4.7 clearances across nine games for South Adelaide.
SC verdict: If he keeps his spot in the side for longer than the first month, Hunter could be the best ruck rookie of 2021. But does he make way as soon as Marshall returns in the early rounds? Probably, which makes it tough to start him if Flynn and Meek are both named.
Lloyd Meek $123,900 RUCK
SC average: 87 (WAFL 2019)
AAMI Series score: 75 (83 per cent TOG)
Meek, 22, has been waiting in the wings for some time now and an injury to Sean Darcy could see him make his long-awaited debut. The ruckman impressed around the ground during the Dockers’ trial match against West Coast while assuming the No.1 ruck mantle. Perhaps more significantly, Meek held his own competing against the athletic Nic Naitanui in the AAMI Series, until the reigning All-Australian ruckman was rested. The 203cm tall finished with 12 disposals, five clearances, 18 hitouts and 75 points in an encouraging showing, after he averaged 87 KFC SuperCoach points in seven WAFL games in 2019.
SC verdict: The fresh concerns surrounding Flynn â€" both injury wise and his claims to the No.1 ruck role â€" mean Meek could be the top ruck rookie. Personally, I feel that Flynn is still ahead, but Meek is the logical pick if Flynn is left out in Round 1.
Matthew Flynn $123,900 RUC
SC Average: N/A
AAMI Series score: DNP
Drafted as a project ruckman way back in 2015, Flynn is in the box seat to take the ruck reins and make his long-awaited debut following a pre-season blow to Braydon Preuss. The former Demon could miss half the season, giving Flynn the opportunity to shine for SuperCoaches. After playing as the Giants’ number one ruckman in their first practice match, coaches were shocked to see Flynn miss the Community Series with an ankle setback. The injury is only minor, and he appears likely to face the Saints in their season opener, but will the performance of fellow ruckman Kieran Briggs as Flynn’s replacement change the Giants’ thinking? Flynn has scoring pedigree in the state leagues, averaging above 95 KFC SuperCoach points in his last two NEAFL seasons in 2018 and 2019.
SC verdict: Some coaches â€" including your truly â€" may have jumped the gun on Flynn. He has the potential to be the best rookie of the bunch, akin to Reilly O’Brien and Marc Pittonet in previous seasons, but we need some certainty on his Round 1 spot, given the Giants play on the Sunday. Go with him as your R3 for now, with Lloyd Meek on standby.
The ruck situation at R3 will be interesting if Flynn doesn't get named. Even if he does he will be facing Hunter who I think has more runs on the board.
Meek has Darcy breathing down his neck, fraught with danger I would have thought.
I'm so tempted by Hunter and I don't think Marshall will be back anytime soon, stress fractures can be a son of a dog to manage. St Kilda probably know this too, that's why they put Hunter straight onto the main list (bypassing the rookie list). Clearly they expect him to play 6-10 games this year.
You won't know if Flynn is named by the time Meek plays unless they announce it earlier in the week. I'd have Flynn and shift to Hunter if he doesn't play
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You won't know if Flynn is named by the time Meek plays unless they announce it earlier in the week. I'd have Flynn and shift to Hunter if he doesn't play
Probs have to select Flynn if named but I suspect he's still a week off, that will be the real head scratcher. Do you risk Briggs for a week? What happens if Hunter towels him up & he becomes that annoying nothing man at D8. There's also a chance Mummy gets called up, so Flynn might not be the safe bet after all.
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You won't know if Flynn is named by the time Meek plays unless they announce it earlier in the week. I'd have Flynn and shift to Hunter if he doesn't play
Probs have to select Flynn if named but I suspect he's still a week off, that will be the real head scratcher. Do you risk Briggs for a week? What happens if Hunter towels him up & he becomes that annoying nothing man at D8. There's also a chance Mummy gets called up, so Flynn might not be the safe bet after all.
Crickey my head hurts with all this!
I do not know the other rookie rucks but the word about Fremantle is that Longmiur does not want to unsettle the the back line so Cox is off the list as backup ruck. Lobbe (6 to 8 weeks) is out so Treacy (Ruck/Fwd)is highly likely to be in the forwards.
This is also the call on the afl website with the mock teams just up today https://www.afl.com.au/news/560895/mock-teams-who-s-in-your-club-s-best-22-for-round-one-
D'arcy is listed as Test so may still get up for R1 - IMO this is unlikely. That said even if Meek plays R1 and does well I do not see the job security as the Fremantle structure IMO does not allow for 2 dedicated ruckmen.
However while Treacy will have superior job security IMO he will be playing primarily as a key forward with little ruck involvement so his SC scoring may be limited
Ratten said he expects Marshall will be back by Round 2 or 3, and worst case 4
I'm not starting Hunter - can always look to get him Round 3 if he looks a must and there's more clarity around his position in their side
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on March 11, 2021, 11:25:19 PM
Ratten said he expects Marshall will be back by Round 2 or 3, and worst case 4
I'm not starting Hunter - can always look to get him R3 if he looks a must and there's more clarity around his position in their side
Fair enough, Flynn is the way to go. Meek has Gawn so surely he gets his pants pulled down, Darcy also approaching full fitness. Can always do a correction trade if need be.
Do we still pick Briggs? I'm tempted to just pick Nick Murray and hope he gets a pay rise or two.
i got hunter for now until the fear sets in and i grab flynn pre lockout.
ive dumped briggs for murray , because im too poor for the 200-250k trio of options.
Quote from: Bully on March 11, 2021, 03:24:55 PM
Probs have to select Flynn if named but I suspect he's still a week off, that will be the real head scratcher. Do you risk Briggs for a week? What happens if Hunter towels him up & he becomes that annoying nothing man at D8. There's also a chance Mummy gets called up, so Flynn might not be the safe bet after all.
Briggs is worth the risk. He was really effective as a tap ruck in the game against the Swans and it felt like the Giants were making the best of his ruck work. If he comes out and performs effectively again you think the spot would be his.
I’m still going with Hunter. If he plays every week then I expect him to be better than Meek, Flynn and Briggs if they were also to play every week. Hunter is also 102k which is another positive.
Marshall has a stress injury so he may be a long term injury or in and out of the team.
Ryder is a unknown. Personal leave/ mental health....May be 5-10 weeks... who knows? It is all speculation...Jack Steven a case in point.
Further to my post above I’ll add when and if Marshall returns to the team he’ll become a major risk to whoever chooses to bring him in. He will need monitoring and resting with the possibility of more time on the sidelines.
Quote from: enzedder on March 12, 2021, 06:35:19 PM
I’m still going with Hunter. If he plays every week then I expect him to be better than Meek, Flynn and Briggs if they were also to play every week. Hunter is also 102k which is another positive.
Marshall has a stress injury so he may be a long term injury or in and out of the team.
Ryder is a unknown. Personal leave/ mental health....May be 5-10 weeks... who knows? It is all speculation...Jack Steven a case in point.
Fair enough logic, just keep some dough on the side for a correction trade (if need be).
Quote from: enzedder on March 12, 2021, 06:35:19 PM
I’m still going with Hunter. If he plays every week then I expect him to be better than Meek, Flynn and Briggs if they were also to play every week. Hunter is also 102k which is another positive.
Marshall has a stress injury so he may be a long term injury or in and out of the team.
Ryder is a unknown. Personal leave/ mental health....May be 5-10 weeks... who knows? It is all speculation...Jack Steven a case in point.
I'm thinking the same can't see Paddy rushing back and Ratten said they will not be rushing Marshall back but will wait to see what goes down at GWS good thing is they play each other R1.
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I’m still going with Hunter. If he plays every week then I expect him to be better than Meek, Flynn and Briggs if they were also to play every week. Hunter is also 102k which is another positive.
Marshall has a stress injury so he may be a long term injury or in and out of the team.
Ryder is a unknown. Personal leave/ mental health....May be 5-10 weeks... who knows? It is all speculation...Jack Steven a case in point.
I'm thinking the same can't see Paddy rushing back and Ratten said they will not be rushing Marshall back but will wait to see what goes down at GWS good thing is they play each other R1.
It's a tough one, Flynn seems to have the JS but Hunter appears to be the best ruck judging by his SANFL stats. The deciding factor is Briggs because you know if Flynn spuds it you will get the rewards in the backline.
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I’m still going with Hunter. If he plays every week then I expect him to be better than Meek, Flynn and Briggs if they were also to play every week. Hunter is also 102k which is another positive.
Marshall has a stress injury so he may be a long term injury or in and out of the team.
Ryder is a unknown. Personal leave/ mental health....May be 5-10 weeks... who knows? It is all speculation...Jack Steven a case in point.
I'm thinking the same can't see Paddy rushing back and Ratten said they will not be rushing Marshall back but will wait to see what goes down at GWS good thing is they play each other R1.
It's a tough one, Flynn seems to have the JS but Hunter appears to be the best ruck judging by his SANFL stats. The deciding factor is Briggs because you know if Flynn spuds it you will get the rewards in the backline.
I'm just happy there is a couple of cheap rucks this year ;)
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I’m still going with Hunter. If he plays every week then I expect him to be better than Meek, Flynn and Briggs if they were also to play every week. Hunter is also 102k which is another positive.
Marshall has a stress injury so he may be a long term injury or in and out of the team.
Ryder is a unknown. Personal leave/ mental health....May be 5-10 weeks... who knows? It is all speculation...Jack Steven a case in point.
I'm thinking the same can't see Paddy rushing back and Ratten said they will not be rushing Marshall back but will wait to see what goes down at GWS good thing is they play each other R1.
It's a tough one, Flynn seems to have the JS but Hunter appears to be the best ruck judging by his SANFL stats. The deciding factor is Briggs because you know if Flynn spuds it you will get the rewards in the backline.
I'm just happy there is a couple of cheap rucks this year ;)
Yep, highly unusual but I've never seen the backline in such disarray. This will cause quite a few headaches I suspect, particularly if someone like Clark fails to cement his spot.
The biggest surprise for me this year is the love of Rowell, 50% is staggering for a bloke who has played 5 games of AFL footy. Add the injury & it all looms as a recipe for disaster. Much better value with Taranto or if there are lingering doubts, grab a tried and trusted premo.
In any case, I feel ok about my squad, still looks weird with 5 premo defenders but aside from Highmore, the cupboard is bare.
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Quote from: enzedder on March 12, 2021, 06:35:19 PM
I’m still going with Hunter. If he plays every week then I expect him to be better than Meek, Flynn and Briggs if they were also to play every week. Hunter is also 102k which is another positive.
Marshall has a stress injury so he may be a long term injury or in and out of the team.
Ryder is a unknown. Personal leave/ mental health....May be 5-10 weeks... who knows? It is all speculation...Jack Steven a case in point.
I'm thinking the same can't see Paddy rushing back and Ratten said they will not be rushing Marshall back but will wait to see what goes down at GWS good thing is they play each other R1.
It's a tough one, Flynn seems to have the JS but Hunter appears to be the best ruck judging by his SANFL stats. The deciding factor is Briggs because you know if Flynn spuds it you will get the rewards in the backline.
I'm just happy there is a couple of cheap rucks this year ;)
Yep, highly unusual but I've never seen the backline in such disarray. This will cause quite a few headaches I suspect, particularly if someone like Clark fails to cement his spot.
The biggest surprise for me this year is the love of Rowell, 50% is staggering for a bloke who has played 5 games of AFL footy. Add the injury & it all looms as a recipe for disaster. Much better value with Taranto or if there are lingering doubts, grab a tried and trusted premo.
In any case, I feel ok about my squad, still looks weird with 5 premo defenders but aside from Highmore, the cupboard is bare.
I have Highmore too. Reckon Carlisle comes in for Frawley though so hopeful at best. That cupboard may still be bare.
Lachlan Jones at Port and Kosi at Hawthorn are our best cheap chances IMO.
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Quote from: enzedder on March 12, 2021, 06:35:19 PM
I’m still going with Hunter. If he plays every week then I expect him to be better than Meek, Flynn and Briggs if they were also to play every week. Hunter is also 102k which is another positive.
Marshall has a stress injury so he may be a long term injury or in and out of the team.
Ryder is a unknown. Personal leave/ mental health....May be 5-10 weeks... who knows? It is all speculation...Jack Steven a case in point.
I'm thinking the same can't see Paddy rushing back and Ratten said they will not be rushing Marshall back but will wait to see what goes down at GWS good thing is they play each other R1.
It's a tough one, Flynn seems to have the JS but Hunter appears to be the best ruck judging by his SANFL stats. The deciding factor is Briggs because you know if Flynn spuds it you will get the rewards in the backline.
I'm just happy there is a couple of cheap rucks this year ;)
Yep, highly unusual but I've never seen the backline in such disarray. This will cause quite a few headaches I suspect, particularly if someone like Clark fails to cement his spot.
The biggest surprise for me this year is the love of Rowell, 50% is staggering for a bloke who has played 5 games of AFL footy. Add the injury & it all looms as a recipe for disaster. Much better value with Taranto or if there are lingering doubts, grab a tried and trusted premo.
In any case, I feel ok about my squad, still looks weird with 5 premo defenders but aside from Highmore, the cupboard is bare.
I have Highmore too. Reckon Carlisle comes in for Frawley though so hopeful at best. That cupboard may still be bare.
Lachlan Jones at Port and Kosi at Hawthorn are our best cheap chances IMO.
With Paton and Geary out as well Highmore has to be a chance.
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Quote from: enzedder on March 12, 2021, 06:35:19 PM
I’m still going with Hunter. If he plays every week then I expect him to be better than Meek, Flynn and Briggs if they were also to play every week. Hunter is also 102k which is another positive.
Marshall has a stress injury so he may be a long term injury or in and out of the team.
Ryder is a unknown. Personal leave/ mental health....May be 5-10 weeks... who knows? It is all speculation...Jack Steven a case in point.
I'm thinking the same can't see Paddy rushing back and Ratten said they will not be rushing Marshall back but will wait to see what goes down at GWS good thing is they play each other R1.
It's a tough one, Flynn seems to have the JS but Hunter appears to be the best ruck judging by his SANFL stats. The deciding factor is Briggs because you know if Flynn spuds it you will get the rewards in the backline.
I'm just happy there is a couple of cheap rucks this year ;)
Yep, highly unusual but I've never seen the backline in such disarray. This will cause quite a few headaches I suspect, particularly if someone like Clark fails to cement his spot.
The biggest surprise for me this year is the love of Rowell, 50% is staggering for a bloke who has played 5 games of AFL footy. Add the injury & it all looms as a recipe for disaster. Much better value with Taranto or if there are lingering doubts, grab a tried and trusted premo.
In any case, I feel ok about my squad, still looks weird with 5 premo defenders but aside from Highmore, the cupboard is bare.
I have Highmore too. Reckon Carlisle comes in for Frawley though so hopeful at best. That cupboard may still be bare.
Lachlan Jones at Port and Kosi at Hawthorn are our best cheap chances IMO.
Highmore was in the A's today, Carlise in the B's
Hunter R3 with Briggs at D8. If Flynn gets the gig and Hunter gets dropped you can just do Briggs to Murray (assuming he holds his spot) and Hunter to Flynn as correction trades after round 2. Problem solved.
Quote from: Mat0369 on March 12, 2021, 11:02:11 PM
Hunter R3 with Briggs at D8. If Flynn gets the gig and Hunter gets dropped you can just do Briggs to Murray (assuming he holds his spot) and Hunter to Flynn as correction trades after round 2. Problem solved.
Not sure I would do a corrective trade for Murray, you either start him or worry about guys with rock solid JS. Talia & Doedee to come back.
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Quote from: shaker on March 12, 2021, 06:48:14 PM
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I’m still going with Hunter. If he plays every week then I expect him to be better than Meek, Flynn and Briggs if they were also to play every week. Hunter is also 102k which is another positive.
Marshall has a stress injury so he may be a long term injury or in and out of the team.
Ryder is a unknown. Personal leave/ mental health....May be 5-10 weeks... who knows? It is all speculation...Jack Steven a case in point.
I'm thinking the same can't see Paddy rushing back and Ratten said they will not be rushing Marshall back but will wait to see what goes down at GWS good thing is they play each other R1.
It's a tough one, Flynn seems to have the JS but Hunter appears to be the best ruck judging by his SANFL stats. The deciding factor is Briggs because you know if Flynn spuds it you will get the rewards in the backline.
I'm just happy there is a couple of cheap rucks this year ;)
Yep, highly unusual but I've never seen the backline in such disarray. This will cause quite a few headaches I suspect, particularly if someone like Clark fails to cement his spot.
The biggest surprise for me this year is the love of Rowell, 50% is staggering for a bloke who has played 5 games of AFL footy. Add the injury & it all looms as a recipe for disaster. Much better value with Taranto or if there are lingering doubts, grab a tried and trusted premo.
In any case, I feel ok about my squad, still looks weird with 5 premo defenders but aside from Highmore, the cupboard is bare.
I have Highmore too. Reckon Carlisle comes in for Frawley though so hopeful at best. That cupboard may still be bare.
Lachlan Jones at Port and Kosi at Hawthorn are our best cheap chances IMO.
Highmore was in the A's today, Carlise in the B's
While that is true most Saint fans would love for it to be Carlisle that comes in to the side. The defence works best with him in it. He had back issues that are likely ongoing and he was absent at the end of last year for the birth of his child but as he is playing now I can’t see how he is not best 22 unless something else has happened we don’t know about.
Possibly there are no suitable GWS match ups for him as Himmelberg and Finlayson aren’t the biggest of forwards.
Dow now in 34% of teams. I feel like if i dont select him i may regret it but wont be getting him ahead of Impey/Ziebell/Campbell. Although he may have more opportunity this year, his scoring history has been pretty bad.
Quote from: Samsturmfels on March 15, 2021, 08:12:14 PM
Dow now in 34% of teams. I feel like if i dont select him i may regret it but wont be getting him ahead of Impey/Ziebell/Campbell. Although he may have more opportunity this year, his scoring history has been pretty bad.
Fool's gold IMO, if he defies my expectations I'll do a correction trade with Ziebell or Daniher but 200k is a fair chunk of change. 34% is heartening however, it means other lines have been compromised.
That's 34% of teams out of the running already ;D
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That's 34% of teams out of the running already ;D
Then again there's 20% that still have Cockatoo in their team :o
I'm pretty sure that he has never strung 3 games in a row
Treacy suspended for 2 matches
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Treacy suspended for 2 matches
https://www.afl.com.au/news/562850/dockers-facing-tall-crisis-with-youngster-banned
Might be safe to dump Treacy now. Or keep him for a loophole.
Quote from: IntegralX on March 15, 2021, 11:24:17 PM
Might be safe to dump Treacy now. Or keep him for a loophole.
Not great news, he was a cheapie I was relying on. Suppose I now have to find funds for Fullerton.
Quote from: Bully on March 15, 2021, 08:19:32 PM
Fool's gold IMO, if he defies my expectations I'll do a correction trade with Ziebell or Daniher but 200k is a fair chunk of change. 34% is heartening however, it means other lines have been compromised.
It's easier to set aside the cash for someone and trade down compared to finding the cash later. He is going to have a pretty SC friendly role and see heavy use at the CB's. The coaches love him as well since we received trade offers for him and they knocked them back. I'm inclined to start him and then trade him out if he busts. I didn't think he would be in 34% of teams though
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Fool's gold IMO, if he defies my expectations I'll do a correction trade with Ziebell or Daniher but 200k is a fair chunk of change. 34% is heartening however, it means other lines have been compromised.
It's easier to set aside the cash for someone and trade down compared to finding the cash later. He is going to have a pretty SC friendly role and see heavy use at the CB's. The coaches love him as well since we received trade offers for him and they knocked them back. I'm inclined to start him and then trade him out if he busts. I didn't think he would be in 34% of teams though
Good chance to be dropped as well, 42 games of mediocrity tells me this is a longshot.
He played 20 and 19 games in year one and two before playing 3 last year. He had a knee injury last season which is why he only played 3 games. He probably isn't getting dropped
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He played 20 and 19 games in year one and two before playing 3 last year. He had a knee injury last season which is why he only played 3 games. He probably isn't getting dropped
He wasn't dropped because he's a top 5 draft pick, most clubs tend to give high picks time to sort themselves out. Think Dow is so far down the pecking order, well behind Cripps. Walsh, Williams, Setterfield & Petrevski-Seton. Throw in some cameos from Martin & Murphy & he's clearly expendable. He's a better pick in AFL Dreamteam, tends to find it but butcher it.
Quote from: IntegralX on March 15, 2021, 11:24:17 PM
Might be safe to dump Treacy now. Or keep him for a loophole.
who is everyone getting in for Treacy? Im thinking one of Fullarton or Waterman (if named).
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Might be safe to dump Treacy now. Or keep him for a loophole.
who is everyone getting in for Treacy? Im thinking one of Fullarton or Waterman (if named).
same here, it depends on who is named
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Might be safe to dump Treacy now. Or keep him for a loophole.
who is everyone getting in for Treacy? Im thinking one of Fullarton or Waterman (if named).
I think I'll be taking Fullarton with a view to a Treacy downgrade in round 5 or thereabouts.
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Might be safe to dump Treacy now. Or keep him for a loophole.
who is everyone getting in for Treacy? Im thinking one of Fullarton or Waterman (if named).
same here, it depends on who is named
The issue i have is that i only have 242.5k to spend on the two remaining rookies (which can be either both forwards or one of each forward/mid. I really need one of Waterman or trew to be named R1. Otherwise i could go Flynn to Hunter. But that could cost me alot of cash gen.
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Quote from: IntegralX on March 15, 2021, 11:24:17 PM
Might be safe to dump Treacy now. Or keep him for a loophole.
who is everyone getting in for Treacy? Im thinking one of Fullarton or Waterman (if named).
same here, it depends on who is named
The issue i have is that i only have 242.5k to spend on the two remaining rookies (which can be either both forwards or one of each forward/mid. I really need one of Waterman or trew to be named R1. Otherwise i could go Flynn to Hunter. But that could cost me alot of cash gen.
I've gone Short to Docherty which seems the path of least resistance, Doch should have averaged 95 without the injury game so comes with a decent discount.
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Might be safe to dump Treacy now. Or keep him for a loophole.
who is everyone getting in for Treacy? Im thinking one of Fullarton or Waterman (if named).
same here, it depends on who is named
The issue i have is that i only have 242.5k to spend on the two remaining rookies (which can be either both forwards or one of each forward/mid. I really need one of Waterman or trew to be named R1. Otherwise i could go Flynn to Hunter. But that could cost me alot of cash gen.
I've gone Short to Docherty which seems the path of least resistance, Doch should have averaged 95 without the injury game so comes with a decent discount.
I had Docherty for a while, but I was worried the effect both Saad and Williams (when resting) will have on his score
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Might be safe to dump Treacy now. Or keep him for a loophole.
who is everyone getting in for Treacy? Im thinking one of Fullarton or Waterman (if named).
same here, it depends on who is named
The issue i have is that i only have 242.5k to spend on the two remaining rookies (which can be either both forwards or one of each forward/mid. I really need one of Waterman or trew to be named R1. Otherwise i could go Flynn to Hunter. But that could cost me alot of cash gen.
I've gone Short to Docherty which seems the path of least resistance, Doch should have averaged 95 without the injury game so comes with a decent discount.
I had Docherty for a while, but I was worried the effect both Saad and Williams (when resting) will have on his score
yeah im pretty set on my premos. I could go a Rowell to Taranto, Danger to Walsh/Cripps/Daniel or even a Neale to Steele/Merrett. But i dont think it would be worth it, although if not enough cheap rookies get named i may be stuffed.
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Might be safe to dump Treacy now. Or keep him for a loophole.
who is everyone getting in for Treacy? Im thinking one of Fullarton or Waterman (if named).
same here, it depends on who is named
The issue i have is that i only have 242.5k to spend on the two remaining rookies (which can be either both forwards or one of each forward/mid. I really need one of Waterman or trew to be named R1. Otherwise i could go Flynn to Hunter. But that could cost me alot of cash gen.
I've gone Short to Docherty which seems the path of least resistance, Doch should have averaged 95 without the injury game so comes with a decent discount.
I had Docherty for a while, but I was worried the effect both Saad and Williams (when resting) will have on his score
Don't see a huge issue, Doch scored well with Simpson in the side. Williams likely spends more time in the middle, Saad effectively replaces Simpson.
Same deal with Short, Houli comes back and they have to share it around. Reckon both Short & Docherty will be in the 95-105 region.
Quote from: Bully on March 16, 2021, 12:13:14 PM
He wasn't dropped because he's a top 5 draft pick, most clubs tend to give high picks time to sort themselves out. Think Dow is so far down the pecking order, well behind Cripps. Walsh, Williams, Setterfield & Petrevski-Seton. Throw in some cameos from Martin & Murphy & he's clearly expendable. He's a better pick in AFL Dreamteam, tends to find it but butcher it.
Petrevski-Seton is a half back flanker now and won't play in the midfield. He has no impact on Dow. Murphy they want to play at half forward now and they want more pace in the midfield with Cripps so Setters and Curnow are your two wings. Our CB line-up will be a heavy rotation of Walsh, Cripps, Williams, Dow and Jack Martin spelling when needed.
While Dow can butcher the ball he hasn't been high possession guy. Most of his touches have been contested and in clearance situations. If he can use the ball effectively around the stoppages in scoring chains he could have a nice spike.
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He wasn't dropped because he's a top 5 draft pick, most clubs tend to give high picks time to sort themselves out. Think Dow is so far down the pecking order, well behind Cripps. Walsh, Williams, Setterfield & Petrevski-Seton. Throw in some cameos from Martin & Murphy & he's clearly expendable. He's a better pick in AFL Dreamteam, tends to find it but butcher it.
Petrevski-Seton is a half back flanker now and won't play in the midfield. He has no impact on Dow. Murphy they want to play at half forward now and they want more pace in the midfield with Cripps so Setters and Curnow are your two wings. Our CB line-up will be a heavy rotation of Walsh, Cripps, Williams, Dow and Jack Martin spelling when needed.
While Dow can butcher the ball he hasn't been high possession guy. Most of his touches have been contested and in clearance situations. If he can use the ball effectively around the stoppages in scoring chains he could have a nice spike.
If he cuts the clangers then there's some hope but there's plenty of risk, this is one I'm happy to observe and do a correction trade if needed.
Any chance Chapman gets a game rd 1? with Lobb, Treacy, Frederick all injured rd 1 (and possibly Darcy missing). Cox could be moved to the fwd line.
Quote from: Samsturmfels on March 16, 2021, 10:32:37 PM
Any chance Chapman gets a game rd 1? with Lobb, Treacy, Frederick all injured rd 1 (and possibly Darcy missing). Cox could be moved to the fwd line.
Maybe but even if he did he'd get a couple games at best. Cox is too valuable to Freo back there to move from defence for a long period of time.
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Any chance Chapman gets a game rd 1? with Lobb, Treacy, Frederick all injured rd 1 (and possibly Darcy missing). Cox could be moved to the fwd line.
Darcy, Frederick, Treacy are all around the 1-2 week mark. Add in Logue as well. It probably sees him only come in for that short period if he does play
AFL has approved the sub rule. This will be fun picking rookies
Quote from: Mat0369 on March 17, 2021, 01:33:11 PM
AFL has approved the sub rule. This will be fun picking rookies
Teams named the day before a match + medical subs = Flower Supercoach!
Whoever wins the $50k at season's end needs to be knighted as part of the prize.
Quote from: Mat0369 on March 17, 2021, 01:33:11 PM
AFL has approved the sub rule. This will be fun picking rookies
Why though?
Still pick rookies (and other players) based on who's named in the 22.. The sub may not come on at all.
We're going to get 23 man squads with subs not being named until final team announcements. Good luck knowing who is going to play on field in that situation
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We're going to get 23 man squads with subs not being named until final team announcements. Good luck knowing who is going to play on field in that situation
That's not quite right, per the AFL.com.au article:
"Clubs will name a 'normal' squad of 22 players and four emergencies the evening before the game, but they won't have to name the 23rd 'medical substitute' player until final teams are confirmed an hour before the first bounce."
Quote from: barlowlove on March 17, 2021, 02:38:43 PM
That's not quite right, per the AFL.com.au article:
"Clubs will name a 'normal' squad of 22 players and four emergencies the evening before the game, but they won't have to name the 23rd 'medical substitute' player until final teams are confirmed an hour before the first bounce."
That makes me feel a little bit better. Clubs normally hold out one emergency anyway so that's probably the norm. I was under the assumption we would get the old we randomly pick a sub from the 23 which would pretty much cook us.
Quote from: Mat0369 on March 17, 2021, 02:59:04 PM
That makes me feel a little bit better. Clubs normally hold out one emergency anyway so that's probably the norm. I was under the assumption we would get the old we randomly pick a sub from the 23 which would pretty much cook us.
Yep, its not as bad as it could be. I think the biggest concern is if you have a rookie playing well who is named as the 23rd and plays, it will kill their cash generation.
I also assume that if a player is named as a 23rd and does not take the field, it will count as a non-playing player, and not a playing zero. As this would also kill cash gen, loopholes etc.
Gonna be real fun when the rookie you're fielding gets named as the sub 1 hour before the match...
With Round 1 we get to wait and see then pick, but from Round 2 onwards after we've already picked our starting rookies in Round 1 this is gonna get ugly
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Gonna be real fun when the rookie you're fielding gets named as the sub 1 hour before the match...
With Round 1 we get to wait and see then pick, but from Round 2 onwards after we've already picked our starting rookies in Round 1 this is gonna get ugly
Ideally in this scenario, you aren't fielding them as they wouldn't have been named in the 22. But yes, we will be fairly stuck after Round 1 if any rookies are "dropped" to the 23rd man
It has me a little more hesitant on someone like Warner. He looked great on the weekend but if he is a fringe player they could name him emergency and then slot him as the sub. It is only supposed to be in case of injury, but I am curious to see if it also applies for the 20 minute concussion test window. Guys could come on for 15 minutes in the game, score a 15 and kill any chance of cash gen.
The typical subs previously were guys that were either quick, had good endurance and could come on as a set of fresh legs to impact the game. Guys like Warner, Gulden, Brockman, Downie, Bergman, Jones, Powell, Scott and even Jordan Clark could fit this mould. We also need to make sure we don't use anyone that is named an emergency for loophole purposes.
Well what happens if your sub comes on in the last quarter and scores 10. This could seriously hamper cash generation for rookies
McNeil (102k M) and Scott (102k M/F) both named to debut for Dogs
I'll be going with Scott and passing on McNeil at this stage
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McNeil (102k M) and Scott (102k M/F) both named to debut for Dogs
I'll be going with Scott and passing on McNeil at this stage
It's good to see both in. I'm thinking of doing the same and can swing the changes later if needed with Scott having DPP. Hannan is out for an extended period so McNeil should get a decent crack but may not score as well if he gets stuck deep for long periods.
Thought it would be simple if rookies named in the 22 then they play and the sub comes from one of the 4 emergencies. But as been said what is to stop club dropping someone from the 22 to the sub position and promoting an emergency. Real wait and see.
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Thought it would be simple if rookies named in the 22 then they play and the sub comes from one of the 4 emergencies. But as been said what is to stop club dropping someone from the 22 to the sub position and promoting an emergency. Real wait and see.
That's always been the case though. Nothing has really changed I don't think. Subs aren't like they were a few years ago, they can't just be brought on to impact games, it must be an injury or concussion that will prevent a player from playing for 12 days. If they're named in the 22 we play them, the risk of having a late change is still there like it has always been.
Is Ollie Henry worth getting in
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Is Ollie Henry worth getting in
Me thinks JS maybe an issue
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McNeil (102k M) and Scott (102k M/F) both named to debut for Dogs
I'll be going with Scott and passing on McNeil at this stage
I'll grab both, no drama sticking McNeill at M11
Thoughts on James Jordon
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Thoughts on James Jordon
1 week wonder, straight out for Viney unless he lights it up. Avoid.
How many sub 200K players is everyone starting?
I've stared at my team for so many hours I no longer see players, I see:
13 keepers
4 250k-450k players
3 sub 200k starting players
10 trades for injuries and corrections
Who goes out for Sidey?
Correct - so why bother IMO
Whats everyones views on:
Jordan v Berry v McNeil v Downie V Smith if named.
I feel berry will get some opportunity to play in the mids with Crouch out. McNeil is very cheap and could stay in team with Mclean out. Jordan has been talked up by a number of his team mates and im not sure if Downie and Smith actually play.
Atm i have Jordan, Berry and Downie due to scoring potential but am worried with job security for all of these players.
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Whats everyones views on:
Jordan v Berry v McNeil v Downie V Smith if named.
I feel berry will get some opportunity to play in the mids with Crouch out. McNeil is very cheap and could stay in team with Mclean out. Jordan has been talked up by a number of his team mates and im not sure if Downie and Smith actually play.
Atm i have Jordan, Berry and Downie due to scoring potential but am worried with job security for all of these players.
If in doubt grab the mature agers with a few preseasons under the belt.
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Whats everyones views on:
Jordan v Berry v McNeil v Downie V Smith if named.
I feel berry will get some opportunity to play in the mids with Crouch out. McNeil is very cheap and could stay in team with Mclean out. Jordan has been talked up by a number of his team mates and im not sure if Downie and Smith actually play.
Atm i have Jordan, Berry and Downie due to scoring potential but am worried with job security for all of these players.
If in doubt grab the mature agers with a few preseasons under the belt.
so Jordan and Smith? (Both 20).
Berry, Downie and Smith (if named) for me
No real interest in Jordan and McNeil at this stage
So needing 4 of Fullarton. Rowe. Warner. Cahill. Scott.will be F5-8, F6-8 if I can scrounge a little more cash
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Whats everyones views on:
Jordan v Berry v McNeil v Downie V Smith if named.
I feel berry will get some opportunity to play in the mids with Crouch out. McNeil is very cheap and could stay in team with Mclean out. Jordan has been talked up by a number of his team mates and im not sure if Downie and Smith actually play.
Atm i have Jordan, Berry and Downie due to scoring potential but am worried with job security for all of these players.
If in doubt grab the mature agers with a few preseasons under the belt.
so Jordan and Smith? (Both 20).
If Smith makes the cut although I suspect Mathieson will be the man. Jordan seems to be versatile & a good kick so I think this is a decent pick.
Brisbane and Port announcements would be nice
Are we picking Anthony Scott?
Warner and Downie seem like my most susceptible rookies, who would you replace for Scott (assuming all are named)
Dow may be a good SuperCoach pick up, or he may be a bad pick up... i don’t know
What I do know is he is an absolute crud footy player
Retract
Okay I’ve seen enough. paddy Dow is coming into my team next week. I’m convinced
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Okay I’ve seen enough. paddy Dow is coming into my team next week. I’m convinced
Ended up keeping him. Hopefully he keeps going.
Retract my retract
Lol
Paddy Dud
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Lol
Paddy Dud
Could be the one to make way for Williams, will have to wait and see.
Way worse players than Dow. We were obliterated in the middle after HT. LOB is the first out of the side. He looked really good in the first half so that's a positive.
Quote from: Mat0369 on March 19, 2021, 12:08:19 AM
Way worse players than Dow. We were obliterated in the middle after HT. LOB is the first out of the side. He looked really good in the first half so that's a positive.
Agree with Matt, LOB will be gone with making crucial errors. If Dow kicked the goal in the last, his scores could have gone to the mid 70s, 18 possies so got the ball, just doesn’t have the tank.
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Way worse players than Dow. We were obliterated in the middle after HT. LOB is the first out of the side. He looked really good in the first half so that's a positive.
He was still nowhere to be found after the first half
Quote from: tommy10 on March 19, 2021, 12:21:07 AM
Agree with Matt, LOB will be gone with making crucial errors. If Dow kicked the goal in the last, his scores could have gone to the mid 70s, 18 possies so got the ball, just doesn’t have the tank.
Pretty much my thinking as well. I've been pretty critical of him as a Carlton supporter but he actually showed signs tonight. He missed a lot of footy last year, but he needs to build his endurance if he is to make it at AFL level.
Quote from: bkimm32 on March 19, 2021, 12:25:10 AM
He was still nowhere to be found after the first half
69% TOG is the worry. He was the tied lowest with Gibbo of any non sub player. He was off the ground for a lot of that third quarter and one of his weaknesses is his lack of ability to run out games. 60% DE also isn't great. He did have 7 score involvements (tied with Walsh) and 8 of his 18 were contested which is a positive.
Having said that, Crippa was also nowhere to be found in the third quarter and struggled to find the pill. I think he only had 1 touch. The Richmond midfield got on top in the clearances and the two best mids for Carlton were Walsh and Newnes who were able to get to contest after contest due to their ability to cover the ground.
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Quote from: tommy10 on March 19, 2021, 12:21:07 AM
Agree with Matt, LOB will be gone with making crucial errors. If Dow kicked the goal in the last, his scores could have gone to the mid 70s, 18 possies so got the ball, just doesn’t have the tank.
Pretty much my thinking as well. I've been pretty critical of him as a Carlton supporter but he actually showed signs tonight. He missed a lot of footy last year, but he needs to build his endurance if he is to make it at AFL level.
Quote from: bkimm32 on March 19, 2021, 12:25:10 AM
He was still nowhere to be found after the first half
69% TOG is the worry. He was the tied lowest with Gibbo of any non sub player. He was off the ground for a lot of that third quarter and one of his weaknesses is his lack of ability to run out games. 60% DE also isn't great. He did have 7 score involvements (tied with Walsh) and 8 of his 18 were contested which is a positive.
Having said that, Crippa was also nowhere to be found in the third quarter and struggled to find the pill. I think he only had 1 touch. The Richmond midfield got on top in the clearances and the two best mids for Carlton were Walsh and Newnes who were able to get to contest after contest due to their ability to cover the ground.
How many clangers? Cbf checking the stats but I noticed 1 out on the full, 1 handball directly to the opposition in the centre of the ground resulting in a goal, as well as 1 or 2 kicks going directly to the opposition (not clangers). I didn’t notice him give away any obvious free kicks either, but I did notice that he should have gotten a couple that weren’t paid.
5. One was a free against where he was caught for illegal disposal. So 4 were by hand/foot. One of those was the handball early in the game before he settled and the other was the out on the full late.
I think the Blues will persist with Dow. He will get zero attention from the opposition, and with the Blues playing such an attacking game style, he will rack up the possessions against the lesser teams and will pump out a couple 90+ scores to go with his 60's. He might even get to the end of a string of possessions to kick a goal here and there like he did last night. That will be enough to be an effective cash cow.
Yup, don't need him to average 80. You just need him to get a few decent scores for the cash gen. If he can get to 350k and we downgrade him it's 250k in the bank and an easy upgrade of Daniher and Ziebell
Quote from: Mat0369 on March 19, 2021, 01:11:04 PM
Yup, don't need him to average 80. You just need him to get a few decent scores for the cash gen. If he can get to 350k and we downgrade him it's 250k in the bank and an easy upgrade of Daniher and Ziebell
Projection is if he scores 65 next week Dows B/E will be -12 so still making money. Only 9 SC points in the second half the big worry for me at this stage and a lot of reasons already stated.
I don't have Dow but for those that do I'm sure he'll score enough to make enough money and be an ok pick
He's just such a butcher I couldn't bring myself to pick him, but chances are that other similarly priced guys (Joe, Impey etc) will probably score similarly to him so it's probably not going to burn you
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Yup, don't need him to average 80. You just need him to get a few decent scores for the cash gen. If he can get to 350k and we downgrade him it's 250k in the bank and an easy upgrade of Daniher and Ziebell
Projection is if he scores 65 next week Dows B/E will be -12 so still making money. Only 9 SC points in the second half the big worry for me at this stage and a lot of reasons already stated.
JS still up in the air IMO, Williams comes back & perhaps LOB gets punted but he'll need to be on his toes. Tank clearly not suited to 75 rotations.
He is safe. We have Williams to come in next week, that's a straight swap for LOB. Jack Martin is probably another week away after that. Betts is competing for a spot with Fog/Gibbons
Highmore in!
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Yup, don't need him to average 80. You just need him to get a few decent scores for the cash gen. If he can get to 350k and we downgrade him it's 250k in the bank and an easy upgrade of Daniher and Ziebell
Projection is if he scores 65 next week Dows B/E will be -12 so still making money. Only 9 SC points in the second half the big worry for me at this stage and a lot of reasons already stated.
JS still up in the air IMO, Williams comes back & perhaps LOB gets punted but he'll need to be on his toes. Tank clearly not suited to 75 rotations.
JS is a risk with most rookies.
FullarTON confirmed in.
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Yup, don't need him to average 80. You just need him to get a few decent scores for the cash gen. If he can get to 350k and we downgrade him it's 250k in the bank and an easy upgrade of Daniher and Ziebell
Projection is if he scores 65 next week Dows B/E will be -12 so still making money. Only 9 SC points in the second half the big worry for me at this stage and a lot of reasons already stated.
JS still up in the air IMO, Williams comes back & perhaps LOB gets punted but he'll need to be on his toes. Tank clearly not suited to 75 rotations.
JS is a risk with most rookies.
Not prepared to spend 200k on a rookie with dubious JS.
One thing I’ve noticed with Dow is that when he gets tackled he looks like he gets absolutely smashed. Doesn’t look to be very strong in the core. Makes his possessions look rushed.
Are you guys going McNeil? I currently have Jordan, Downie and Berry on bench but could move Scott to the forward line incase one of Bergman or Warner ain't named.
Quote from: Samsturmfels on March 19, 2021, 06:03:22 PM
Are you guys going McNeil? I currently have Jordan, Downie and Berry on bench but could move Scott to the forward line incase one of Bergman or Warner ain't named.
I'm trying not too - feel he's Cavarra 2.0.
Scott I feel much more comfortable with out of the two.
For those that are worried about Dow, keep an eye on Tyson. Cunnington is probably a fortnight away minum, Garner injured his calf today and Dumont is still 2-4 weeks with his calf. Tyson may get a decent run if we're looking at more expensive options
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Are you guys going McNeil? I currently have Jordan, Downie and Berry on bench but could move Scott to the forward line incase one of Bergman or Warner ain't named.
I'm trying not too - feel he's Cavarra 2.0.
Scott I feel much more comfortable with out of the two.
Yeah I think I'll pick him up after 2 weeks if good enough pick. Would be good if we knew if Warner or Bergman were playing.
Quote from: Mat0369 on March 19, 2021, 06:12:37 PM
For those that are worried about Dow, keep an eye on Tyson. Cunnington is probably a fortnight away minum, Garner injured his calf today and Dumont is still 2-4 weeks with his calf. Tyson may get a decent run if we're looking at more expensive options
Tyson looking like a decent sideways, great contingency, just have to switch Dow to the middle.
Quote from: Samsturmfels on March 19, 2021, 06:03:22 PM
Are you guys going McNeil? I currently have Jordan, Downie and Berry on bench but could move Scott to the forward line incase one of Bergman or Warner ain't named.
Not at this stage. Should know if Warner plays shortly.
Warner, Gulden and Campbell named for the Swans
Downie emergency for the Hawks. Brockman and Kosi in the 22.
Sharp named for the Lions
Jones, Cox and Cahill named for the Bombers.
An interesting predicament with Downie - announced he was debuting, but is clearly going to be the medical sub,
Maybe we're better off picking McNeil, as this could happen to any rookie still (Lazarro, etc)
I hate not having sunday teams.
I've got
DEF: Kozi / H Sharp / Highmore
MID: Powell / Bruhn / Gulden / Brockman / Berry / Scott
RUCK: Flynn
FWD: Campbell / Warner / Henry / Rowe
All named I believe to this point except highmore, not sure I have enough $ for the Port lad if highmore isnt named and the port lad is....
Out goes Downie and in comes Sharp (or Berry).
Quote from: Colliwobblers on March 19, 2021, 07:46:42 PM
I hate not having sunday teams.
I've got
DEF: Kozi / H Jones / Highmore
MID: Powell / Bruhn / Gulden / Brockman / Berry / Scott
RUCK: Flynn
FWD: Campbell / Warner / Henry / Rowe
All named I believe to this point except highmore, not sure I have enough $ for the Port lad if highmore isnt named and the port lad is....
Highmore named to debut. No idea if he will be the sub though ala Downie..
https://twitter.com/stkildafc/status/1372702548835016705?s=21
Yup. Which is why I brought Sharp into my backline
Thanks mate, yeah, that's a bit rich - named to debut - then the sub and that is "assumed" he will debut.
This injury thing may get tightened up next round as its a farce.
It's a fatigue sub as it stands.
Not worth getting upset about, but about as stupid as the AFL have ever made themselves look, and they've had some real good cracks at it, so that's saying something. :D
Quote from: Mat0369 on March 19, 2021, 07:52:02 PM
Yup. Which is why I brought Sharp into my backline
We should know Saints squad before Sharp plays.
Quote from: Colliwobblers on March 19, 2021, 07:46:42 PM
I hate not having sunday teams.
I've got
DEF: Kozi / H Sharp / Highmore
MID: Powell / Bruhn / Gulden / Brockman / Berry / Scott
RUCK: Flynn
FWD: Campbell / Warner / Henry / Rowe
All named I believe to this point except highmore, not sure I have enough $ for the Port lad if highmore isnt named and the port lad is....
Edit -
H sharp in the backline there sorry.
Ok so I’m trying to get my head around this.
Currently have L Jones, Kosi and Highmore in my defence.
Downie, Scott and A Fyfe in my midfield.
Would it be wise to trade Jones to Sharp and wait for teams to be announced tomorrow at 6.25pm.
Thing is I need to decide if I bring in Jordon and don’t want to be left with Downie as a M10 donut, unless he is a sub.
Could also replace Sharp with Downie In my midfield in hope Jones is named or Briggs.
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Ok so I’m trying to get my head around this.
Currently have L Jones, Kosi and Highmore in my defence.
Downie, Scott and A Fyfe in my midfield.
Would it be wise to trade Jones to Sharp and wait for teams to be announced tomorrow at 6.25pm.
Thing is I need to decide if I bring in Jordon and don’t want to be left with Downie as a M10 donut, unless he is a sub.
Could also replace Sharp with Downie In my midfield in hope Jones is named or Briggs.
Jones playing SAFL, so very unlikely to be named.
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Quote from: Hazza09 on March 19, 2021, 08:14:52 PM
Ok so I’m trying to get my head around this.
Currently have L Jones, Kosi and Highmore in my defence.
Downie, Scott and A Fyfe in my midfield.
Would it be wise to trade Jones to Sharp and wait for teams to be announced tomorrow at 6.25pm.
Thing is I need to decide if I bring in Jordon and don’t want to be left with Downie as a M10 donut, unless he is a sub.
Could also replace Sharp with Downie In my midfield in hope Jones is named or Briggs.
Jones playing SAFL, so very unlikely to be named.
Thanks for this info!
Sharp or Berry
What’s everyone’s thoughts on Scott? Must have?
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What’s everyone’s thoughts on Scott? Must have?
I think so
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What’s everyone’s thoughts on Scott? Must have?
I think so
Certainly for my team ... spent all my money on defenders
Start Scott? Hard to loophole him tonight.
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Start Scott? Hard to loophole him tonight.
That is the reason I am using M11 as floating donut so can loop Scott tonight.
WTF? Henry
seriously
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Ok so I’m trying to get my head around this.
Currently have L Jones, Kosi and Highmore in my defence.
Downie, Scott and A Fyfe in my midfield.
Would it be wise to trade Jones to Sharp and wait for teams to be announced tomorrow at 6.25pm.
Thing is I need to decide if I bring in Jordon and don’t want to be left with Downie as a M10 donut, unless he is a sub.
Could also replace Sharp with Downie In my midfield in hope Jones is named or Briggs.
Jones playing SAFL, so very unlikely to be named.
Thanks for this info!
Jones left game early, so fresh and still might play.
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Ok so I’m trying to get my head around this.
Currently have L Jones, Kosi and Highmore in my defence.
Downie, Scott and A Fyfe in my midfield.
Would it be wise to trade Jones to Sharp and wait for teams to be announced tomorrow at 6.25pm.
Thing is I need to decide if I bring in Jordon and don’t want to be left with Downie as a M10 donut, unless he is a sub.
Could also replace Sharp with Downie In my midfield in hope Jones is named or Briggs.
Jones playing SAFL, so very unlikely to be named.
Thanks for this info!
Jones left game early, so fresh and still might play.
Maybe he will be the sub player... He at least needs some game time before next week
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Ok so I’m trying to get my head around this.
Currently have L Jones, Kosi and Highmore in my defence.
Downie, Scott and A Fyfe in my midfield.
Would it be wise to trade Jones to Sharp and wait for teams to be announced tomorrow at 6.25pm.
Thing is I need to decide if I bring in Jordon and don’t want to be left with Downie as a M10 donut, unless he is a sub.
Could also replace Sharp with Downie In my midfield in hope Jones is named or Briggs.
Jones playing SAFL, so very unlikely to be named.
Thanks for this info!
Jones left game early, so fresh and still might play.
Maybe he will be the sub player... He at least needs some game time before next week
Yeah maybe. Seems odd to not give him a full game if not playing seniors.
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Ok so I’m trying to get my head around this.
Currently have L Jones, Kosi and Highmore in my defence.
Downie, Scott and A Fyfe in my midfield.
Would it be wise to trade Jones to Sharp and wait for teams to be announced tomorrow at 6.25pm.
Thing is I need to decide if I bring in Jordon and don’t want to be left with Downie as a M10 donut, unless he is a sub.
Could also replace Sharp with Downie In my midfield in hope Jones is named or Briggs.
Jones playing SAFL, so very unlikely to be named.
Thanks for this info!
Jones left game early, so fresh and still might play.
Maybe he will be the sub player... He at least needs some game time before next week
Yeah maybe. Seems odd to not give him a full game if not playing seniors.
But a sub wouldn't be capable to play 2 matches in the weekend, and Port may not use the sub, so at least he would have played half a match
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Ok so I’m trying to get my head around this.
Currently have L Jones, Kosi and Highmore in my defence.
Downie, Scott and A Fyfe in my midfield.
Would it be wise to trade Jones to Sharp and wait for teams to be announced tomorrow at 6.25pm.
Thing is I need to decide if I bring in Jordon and don’t want to be left with Downie as a M10 donut, unless he is a sub.
Could also replace Sharp with Downie In my midfield in hope Jones is named or Briggs.
Jones playing SAFL, so very unlikely to be named.
Thanks for this info!
Jones left game early, so fresh and still might play.
Maybe he will be the sub player... He at least needs some game time before next week
Yeah maybe. Seems odd to not give him a full game if not playing seniors.
But a sub wouldn't be capable to play 2 matches in the weekend, and Port may not use the sub, so at least he would have played half a match
Yeah I'd expect him to travel to Melbourne.
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WTF? Henry
seriously
Never had a good Sc friendly role/scored badly in the preseason game.
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We should know Saints squad before Sharp plays.
I still have Highmore but I have put the E on Sharp instead just in case he is the sub. I made the move for Briggs.
Also if Jones played SANFL that means Bergman will debut.
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We should know Saints squad before Sharp plays.
I still have Highmore but I have put the E on Sharp instead just in case he is the sub. I made the move for Briggs.
Also if Jones played SANFL that means Bergman will debut.
Highmore definite, has been announced publicly.
So was Downie but he is still an emergency
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So was Downie but he is still an emergency
Don’t know if it’s wise to start with Jones and Downie if they are both emergencies.
But don’t know much about Jordon and Berry either.
Have no idea what to do.
I grabbed Sharp but I also have Highmore and Kosi for D6/D7. In the midfield I have gone with Scott, Brockman and Gulden as my three bench players. I have Campbell at M7 and Powell at M8. If you have Dow in the midfield and Campbell in the forward line you could always move him to your mids and grab a Harrison Jones/Fullarton for your forward line.
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So was Downie but he is still an emergency
Don’t know if it’s wise to start with Jones and Downie if they are both emergencies.
But don’t know much about Jordon and Berry either.
Have no idea what to do.
All are risky, Melbourne missing Viney & Melksham, the Crows missing Crouch. This one is a toss of the coin, probably go the older player & that is Jordon but I'm far from confident.
Quote from: Mat0369 on March 20, 2021, 02:45:48 AM
I grabbed Sharp but I also have Highmore and Kosi for D6/D7. In the midfield I have gone with Scott, Brockman and Gulden as my three bench players. I have Campbell at M7 and Powell at M8. If you have Dow in the midfield and Campbell in the forward line you could always move him to your mids and grab a Harrison Jones/Fullarton for your forward line.
That’s a good set up!
So I currently have Jones, Kosi & Highmore in defence, but I’ll bring in Sharp for Jones if he isn’t named.
I have Campbell M5, Gulden M6, Bruhn M7 and Powell M8 with Downie, Brockman & A Fyfe on the bench.
Bergman F5 and Fullarton F6 with Rowe and A Scott on the bench.
Don’t have Dow.
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Quote from: Mat0369 on March 20, 2021, 02:45:48 AM
I grabbed Sharp but I also have Highmore and Kosi for D6/D7. In the midfield I have gone with Scott, Brockman and Gulden as my three bench players. I have Campbell at M7 and Powell at M8. If you have Dow in the midfield and Campbell in the forward line you could always move him to your mids and grab a Harrison Jones/Fullarton for your forward line.
That’s a good set up!
So I currently have Jones, Kosi & Highmore in defence, but I’ll bring in Sharp for Jones if he isn’t named.
I have Campbell M5, Gulden M6, Bruhn M7 and Powell M8 with Downie, Brockman & A Fyfe on the bench.
Bergman F5 and Fullarton F6 with Rowe and A Scott on the bench.
Don’t have Dow.
That's the issue ... everyone waiting on PTA team announcement for Jones/Bergman ... :-X
I'm a bit worried even if they're named, it's a strong side so can they get to 5+ to make them worth the cash cow grab?? :-\
Quote from: Hazza09 on March 20, 2021, 02:53:10 AM
That’s a good set up!
So I currently have Jones, Kosi & Highmore in defence, but I’ll bring in Sharp for Jones if he isn’t named.
I have Campbell M5, Gulden M6, Bruhn M7 and Powell M8 with Downie, Brockman & A Fyfe on the bench.
Bergman F5 and Fullarton F6 with Rowe and A Scott on the bench.
Don’t have Dow.
Are you using Fyfe for loophole purposes? You can also swing him around with Sharp using the DPP.
I forgot about Bruhn because I searched by named rookies and that teams for that game haven't been released yet.
My gut tells me Bergman will play this week with Harlett out but could be out just as quick. With Scott locked you unfortunately can't swing him yet. Have you got Danger in your forward line currently? The other option is field Danger as a mid this week, bring in someone like Chad Warner if you can afford him and play him at F4 with Bergman at F5, Fullarton at F6 and bench Gulden.
Quote from: j959 on March 20, 2021, 03:00:29 AM
That's the issue ... everyone waiting on PTA team announcement for Jones/Bergman ... :-X
I'm a bit worried even if they're named, it's a strong side so can they get to 5+ to make them worth the cash cow grab?? :-\
I'm pretty sure Port have said they will have one debutant and I don't think they were referring to Aliir and Fantasia. If Jones played even a little bit of SANFL my gut says he will be the emergency and they were just getting some run into his legs this week just in case. That leaves the spot for Bergman. However you have the HH problem from next week
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Quote from: j959 on March 20, 2021, 03:00:29 AM
That's the issue ... everyone waiting on PTA team announcement for Jones/Bergman ... :-X
I'm a bit worried even if they're named, it's a strong side so can they get to 5+ to make them worth the cash cow grab?? :-\
I'm pretty sure Port have said they will have one debutant and I don't think they were referring to Aliir and Fantasia. If Jones played even a little bit of SANFL my gut says he will be the emergency and they were just getting some run into his legs this week just in case. That leaves the spot for Bergman. However you have the HH problem from next week
I'm torn on this one, tempted just to pick Lazzaro who should get quite a few games in a rebuilding North side.
North do have a pretty extensive injury list. They have Cunnington, Dumont and Garner all out of that midfield rotation with injury. Polec and Anderson are all racing the clock so there is no guarantee that Lazzaro will get an extended run of games. Tyson and Powell are probably ahead of him in the pecking order so once those guys start creeping back in he may get dropped pretty quickly
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North do have a pretty extensive injury list. They have Cunnington, Dumont and Garner all out of that midfield rotation with injury. Polec and Anderson are all racing the clock so there is no guarantee that Lazzaro will get an extended run of games. Tyson and Powell are probably ahead of him in the pecking order so once those guys start creeping back in he may get dropped pretty quickly
So Harrison Jones has the best JS in your opinion?
Yup. But I'd still take Bergman and his higher scoring potential over Jones
I'm settled on my rookie selections now
Deciding which ones to field though is a whole other thing ;D
Do we reckon Warner is worth the 30k over Brockman?
Take Scott 57 or start Gulden or Sharp
Quote from: whynot102 on March 20, 2021, 12:00:15 PM
Take Scott 57 or start Gulden or Sharp
57 from a rook is a pretty good start - I would bank it
Start on of Highmore, Kosi or Sharp in the Backline
Bergman confirmed to debut.
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I'm settled on my rookie selections now
Deciding which ones to field though is a whole other thing ;D
Who have you settled with RD?
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Bergman confirmed to debut.
Have you got a link because the only Port debuts i can confirm are Orazio and Aliir
https://www.portadelaidefc.com.au/news/882856/aliir-and-fantasia-set-for-port-adelaide-debuts
https://twitter.com/aflratings/status/1373056096575754240?s=21
Stringer already kicked 2 in the practice match today but I think Jones will still play when he's back. Chances are when Stringer is back Hooker will go FB.
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https://twitter.com/aflratings/status/1373056096575754240?s=21
Thank you. Weird they didn't present him his jumper with the other two. Maybe he's the sub
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Ok so I’m trying to get my head around this.
Currently have L Jones, Kosi and Highmore in my defence.
Downie, Scott and A Fyfe in my midfield.
Would it be wise to trade Jones to Sharp and wait for teams to be announced tomorrow at 6.25pm.
Thing is I need to decide if I bring in Jordon and don’t want to be left with Downie as a M10 donut, unless he is a sub.
Could also replace Sharp with Downie In my midfield in hope Jones is named or Briggs.
Jones playing SAFL, so very unlikely to be named.
Thanks for this info!
Jones left game early, so fresh and still might play.
Maybe he will be the sub player... He at least needs some game time before next week
Yeah maybe. Seems odd to not give him a full game if not playing seniors.
But a sub wouldn't be capable to play 2 matches in the weekend, and Port may not use the sub, so at least he would have played half a match
Yeah I'd expect him to travel to Melbourne.
Oh ok, Jones left game early because of a possible soft tissue.
Yup, just read that and came to post it here
https://twitter.com/PAFC/status/1373056518950588418?s=20
Field Bergman or Berry? if i field Bergman he has to play otherwise ill be forced to field Jones. But i feel Bergman may have the better role. I feel the crows will get smashed by the cats and unsure of where the crows will play Berry.
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Field Bergman or Berry? if i field Bergman he has to play otherwise ill be forced to field Jones. But i feel Bergman may have the better role. I feel the crows will get smashed by the cats and unsure of where the crows will play Berry.
Bergman for me, at least Port invest time into the kids. Berry possibly out next week when Crouch returns.
Warner v bergman js and scoring - thoughts?
Quote from: crowls on March 20, 2021, 01:43:59 PM
Warner v bergman js and scoring - thoughts?
Warner for JS, Bergman for scoring. But I will add that Jones suffering a soft tissue injury makes Bergman's case a little stronger.
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Warner v bergman js and scoring - thoughts?
Warner for JS, Bergman for scoring. But I will add that Jones suffering a soft tissue injury makes Bergman's case a little stronger.
Also have to worry about Hartlett returning
I think Bergman will score well, and I want to pick him, but I think I will wait until the Round 3 bubble to see with him
Wow, Jordon being talked up as the next Simon Black, jumped on Demonland and the consensus is vanilla. Think I will pass.
Meek is already on 30 and Gawn is on -4....
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Wow, Jordon being talked up as the next Simon Black, jumped on Demonland and the consensus is vanilla. Think I will pass.
I've got him, but on the bench :(
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Wow, Jordon being talked up as the next Simon Black, jumped on Demonland and the consensus is vanilla. Think I will pass.
I've got him, but on the bench :(
Switched in the last few minutes, gutted. Have the C on Gawn, feel my season is slipping away. :(
Dropped Jordon today dammit. Give him another week and grab if need be I guess.
I wouldn't be too fussed with Jordan right now. He looked pretty good but only had 15 touches and we have seen it in the past with a Dees rookie where they have a great round 1 and back it up with a couple of 30's. Mitch Hannan comes to mind
Quote from: Mat0369 on March 20, 2021, 05:37:01 PM
I wouldn't be too fussed with Jordan right now. He looked pretty good but only had 15 touches and we have seen it in the past with a Dees rookie where they have a great round 1 and back it up with a couple of 30's. Mitch Hannan comes to mind
Only 20 points for the second half, will wait and see. Have a contingency so no drama.
Rookies are fading in games. Round 1 and capped rotations with limited pre-season games will do that
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Rookies are fading in games. Round 1 and capped rotations with limited pre-season games will do that
Plus most of them haven't played competitive football for 18 months
At least I fielded Rowe, had to have some good news.
I've got the emergency on him. Anyone worth grabbing instead of Bergman to loophole him with?
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I've got the emergency on him. Anyone worth grabbing instead of Bergman to loophole him with?
Possible Sidebum?
Fullerton or bergman
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I've got the emergency on him. Anyone worth grabbing instead of Bergman to loophole him with?
Possible Sidebum?
Retract, Collingwood players locked. Think you might have to cop this on the chin or get a swingman at M11
Wouldn’t be doing anything silly just to get a rookie score in round 1
Gulden killing it, 112 at 3/4 time.
Quote from: Bully on March 20, 2021, 10:51:17 PM
Gulden killing it, 112 at 3/4 time.
Yep, and he's helping Rowe keep my bench warm
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Gulden killing it, 112 at 3/4 time.
Yep, and he's helping Rowe keep my bench warm
Cruel game, think we've all had a dose of bad luck.
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Gulden killing it, 112 at 3/4 time.
Yep, and he's helping Rowe keep my bench warm
Cruel game, think we've all had a dose of bad luck.
Both on the field ;)
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Gulden killing it, 112 at 3/4 time.
Yep, and he's helping Rowe keep my bench warm
Cruel game, think we've all had a dose of bad luck.
Both on the field ;)
Nice, reckon there will be some hard luck stories with rookies this week.
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Gulden killing it, 112 at 3/4 time.
Yep, and he's helping Rowe keep my bench warm
Cruel game, think we've all had a dose of bad luck.
Both on the field ;)
Nice, reckon there will be some hard luck stories with rookies this week.
Always hit and miss with rookies R1 I usually miss nice to have a couple of hits.
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Gulden killing it, 112 at 3/4 time.
Yep, and he's helping Rowe keep my bench warm
Cruel game, think we've all had a dose of bad luck.
Both on the field ;)
Nice, reckon there will be some hard luck stories with rookies this week.
Always hit and miss with rookies R1 I usually miss nice to have a couple of hits.
Yeah, there's always hit and misses. Makes a big difference 140 points or so over Scott and Campbell. Well done to those that had both on the field. Glad I had Brockman on the bench at least
So far so good
Jordan on the bench and Berry on field was a slight miss, but fortunately had all the low scoring rookies such as Sharp, Fullarton, Kosi, Brockman and Scott on the bench, and guys like Gulden, Rowe and Warner on field
Campbell on field, but assume everyone has that
Quote from: Bully on March 20, 2021, 11:37:16 PM
Nice, reckon there will be some hard luck stories with rookies this week.
Having a look at the rookies so far
Positives
Scott
Jordan
Berry
Rowe
Sharp (could probably be neutral tier but in a big loss and being cheaper he gets a positive)
Warner
McDonald
Gulden
Neutral
Dow
LOB
Jetta
Meek
Butts
Guthrie
Jones
Kosi
Impey
Campbell
Daniher
Horror Show
McNeil
Henry x 2
Cox
Cahill
Brockman
Fullarton
Guys like Hayden Young, Tom Hickey and Clark were all good to great if you had them as well.
Of the list I had the following
Kosi (on field)
Sharp (bench)
Campbell (field)
Gulden (bench)
Scott (field)
Brockman (bench)
Daniher (field)
Impey (field)
Dow (field)
Warner (filed)
Rowe (bench)
Two highest scores on the bench hurts
Anyone know who I can bring in for Briggs already have Highmore only have $132k could downgrade Tyson to Powell to free up cash
Quote from: whynot102 on March 21, 2021, 09:23:04 AM
Anyone know who I can bring in for Briggs already have Highmore only have $132k could downgrade Tyson to Powell to free up cash
If you downgrade Tyson the only ones I can think of are Idun for GWS or Young for Norf ?
Some SC price rise projections for our rookies after RD2........there are some higher priced players in the list.
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SC Gold with the very conservative prediction of Gulden and Flynn gaining +595k for the season. We can dream
Dow looked good in the first and struggled to find it in the second. Probably will be out of all the teams that have him next week if he keeps this up
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Dow looked good in the first and struggled to find it in the second. Probably will be out of all the teams that have him next week if he keeps this up
Dow to Jordon will be a very popular trade.
Dow rofl
Can someone please clarify when the first price change occurs?
Is it after just two rounds?
Or three?
Cheers
Quote from: tor01doc on March 26, 2021, 12:04:58 AM
Can someone please clarify when the first price change occurs?
Is it after just two rounds?
Or three?
Cheers
the change occurs round 3 so basically your last cash grab opportunity will be at the end of this round.
Price change happens at the completion of round 3. So you have this week and next week to bring in cash cows. If you think you have more than 2 corrections to make then make some this week. If you think you only have 2 or less issues to correct you can wait til next week.
:)
Only 2 games but is it possible that Gulden is shaping up as a keeper ??
???
Gulden is the captain
Warner and Campbell also been pretty handy so far
Lloyd has taught Campbell well on that half back line, looked great.
Warner was attending a lot of centre bounces too
DEF: Highmore
MID: Campbell (FWD), Powell, Gulden, Jordon, Berry
RUC: Flynn
FWD: Warner, Rowe, Brockman (MID)
They're the only must have rookies right? Maybe not all musts, but that's pretty much the best of the best?
I've got all of them, so I can't see any other rookies that I need to grab this week
Can't believe this could be the first time ever that I don't trade at Round 3 :o
I have them all but have spuds Kossi, Sharp, Scott and Fullarton and of course Dow.
Quote from: Ringo on March 28, 2021, 06:34:01 PM
I have them all but have spuds Kossi, Sharp, Scott and Fullarton and of course Dow.
We all have a few spud rookies, but if there's nobody to trade them to, then we just have to hold them
Kosi, Scott, Sharp, Fullarton are my duds, but I can't see any point in trading them to any other rookie I don't have as they appear to be just as bad
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on March 28, 2021, 06:37:22 PM
Quote from: Ringo on March 28, 2021, 06:34:01 PM
I have them all but have spuds Kossi, Sharp, Scott and Fullarton and of course Dow.
We all have a few spud rookies, but if there's nobody to trade them to, then we just have to hold them
Kosi, Scott, Sharp, Fullarton are my duds, but I can't see any point in trading them to any other rookie I don't have as they appear to be just as bad
Yes no urgent rookie trades. Just need to get correct ones on the ground.
Do not have Warner so may look at that
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on March 28, 2021, 06:28:11 PM
DEF: Highmore
MID: Campbell (FWD), Powell, Gulden, Jordon, Berry
RUC: Flynn
FWD: Warner, Rowe, Brockman (MID)
They're the only must have rookies right? Maybe not all musts, but that's pretty much the best of the best?
I've got all of them, so I can't see any other rookies that I need to grab this week
Can't believe this could be the first time ever that I don't trade at Round 3 :o
Don't rate Mcdonald?
Quote from: frenzy on March 28, 2021, 10:17:29 PM
Don't rate Mcdonald?
Looks like he will be a future gun of the comp, but being KPP and quite pricey I don't see him as a must by any means
I don't think Berry is a must. He had a whopping 7 disposals this week and 8 the week prior. He doesn't appear to be a ball winner and I can't imagine he averages 8.5 tackles a game on the year which has been his saving grace.
Quote from: Mat0369 on March 29, 2021, 01:02:04 AM
I don't think Berry is a must. He had a whopping 7 disposals this week and 8 the week prior. He doesn't appear to be a ball winner and I can't imagine he averages 8.5 tackles a game on the year which has been his saving grace.
The tackling is a great baseline however, once he hits 15 disposals he'll probably ton up.
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on March 28, 2021, 10:37:26 PM
Quote from: frenzy on March 28, 2021, 10:17:29 PM
Don't rate Mcdonald?
Looks like he will be a future gun of the comp, but being KPP and quite pricey I don't see him as a must by any means
yep cool, I'll take him thou. Gotta be better than Bergman Fullerton Rowe Jones Scott and Brockman. Pick one for me. :-\
Quote from: Bully on March 29, 2021, 01:27:10 AM
Quote from: Mat0369 on March 29, 2021, 01:02:04 AM
I don't think Berry is a must. He had a whopping 7 disposals this week and 8 the week prior. He doesn't appear to be a ball winner and I can't imagine he averages 8.5 tackles a game on the year which has been his saving grace.
The tackling is a great baseline however, once he hits 15 disposals he'll probably ton up.
Or he has 7 touches and a couple tackles and scores a bunch of 30's. I don't think those tackle numbers are sustainable in a season where I feel the overall number of tackles have dropped.
Quote from: Mat0369 on March 29, 2021, 01:40:40 AM
Quote from: Bully on March 29, 2021, 01:27:10 AM
Quote from: Mat0369 on March 29, 2021, 01:02:04 AM
I don't think Berry is a must. He had a whopping 7 disposals this week and 8 the week prior. He doesn't appear to be a ball winner and I can't imagine he averages 8.5 tackles a game on the year which has been his saving grace.
The tackling is a great baseline however, once he hits 15 disposals he'll probably ton up.
Or he has 7 touches and a couple tackles and scores a bunch of 30's. I don't think those tackle numbers are sustainable in a season where I feel the overall number of tackles have dropped.
Maybe but he's a low ball risk if you sit him on the bench, should hit 200k in a fortnight with a couple of 60s.
I’m really confused in how to approach this rookie situation.
I have Kosi, Sharp (D8), Bruhn, A Fyfe (M11), Fullarton & Scott.
2 of them will have to go.
I have to bring in Jordon and Warner as replacements.
I have played around with the Fyfe option but I could be left without a loophole if I do that, unless one of those boys above get dropped.
My problem is deciding which of the 6 need to go.
I saw Bruhn tonight against Freo and he looked way off it. At 159k and avg 40 is a real concern, he could even get dropped this week.
Quote from: Hazza09 on March 29, 2021, 03:24:46 AM
I’m really confused in how to approach this rookie situation.
I have Kosi, Sharp (D8), Bruhn, A Fyfe (M11), Fullarton & Scott.
2 of them will have to go.
I have to bring in Jordon and Warner as replacements.
I have played around with the Fyfe option but I could be left without a loophole if I do that, unless one of those boys above get dropped.
My problem is deciding which of the 6 need to go.
I saw Bruhn tonight against Freo and he looked way off it. At 159k and avg 40 is a real concern, he could even get dropped this week.
I'm in a similar boat, A.Fyfe stays if Sharp gets dropped, easy fix and you're not behind the eight ball in any way given so few have a viable D8. Can also loop the rookies.
Fullarton could be really handy to slip into r3 and you can basically do a straight swap with Flynn when he maxes out, 1 trade for any player on the park.
Bruhn probably goes, pocket some coin in the process.
Scott has DPP, perfect for looping the rookie forwards.
Quote from: Bully on March 29, 2021, 11:39:23 AM
Quote from: Hazza09 on March 29, 2021, 03:24:46 AM
I’m really confused in how to approach this rookie situation.
I have Kosi, Sharp (D8), Bruhn, A Fyfe (M11), Fullarton & Scott.
2 of them will have to go.
I have to bring in Jordon and Warner as replacements.
I have played around with the Fyfe option but I could be left without a loophole if I do that, unless one of those boys above get dropped.
My problem is deciding which of the 6 need to go.
I saw Bruhn tonight against Freo and he looked way off it. At 159k and avg 40 is a real concern, he could even get dropped this week.
I'm in a similar boat, A.Fyfe stays if Sharp gets dropped, easy fix and you're not behind the eight ball in any way given so few have a viable D8. Can also loop the rookies.
Fullarton could be really handy to slip into r3 and you can basically do a straight swap with Flynn when he maxes out, 1 trade for any player on the park.
Bruhn probably goes, pocket some coin in the process.
Scott has DPP, perfect for looping the rookie forwards.
You make some great points with Fullarton.
Have to wait for teams but i think I will be doing something very similar to yourself.
Yes Bruhn looked off the pace yesterday and knowing what Leon Cameron is like I can see him getting dropped soon, if not this week.
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on March 28, 2021, 10:37:26 PM
Quote from: frenzy on March 28, 2021, 10:17:29 PM
Don't rate Mcdonald?
Looks like he will be a future gun of the comp, but being KPP and quite pricey I don't see him as a must by any means
I feel that you can only have ONE of either Daniher or McDonald
Quote from: Bully on March 29, 2021, 11:39:23 AM
Quote from: Hazza09 on March 29, 2021, 03:24:46 AM
I’m really confused in how to approach this rookie situation.
I have Kosi, Sharp (D8), Bruhn, A Fyfe (M11), Fullarton & Scott.
2 of them will have to go.
I have to bring in Jordon and Warner as replacements.
I have played around with the Fyfe option but I could be left without a loophole if I do that, unless one of those boys above get dropped.
My problem is deciding which of the 6 need to go.
I saw Bruhn tonight against Freo and he looked way off it. At 159k and avg 40 is a real concern, he could even get dropped this week.
I'm in a similar boat, A.Fyfe stays if Sharp gets dropped, easy fix and you're not behind the eight ball in any way given so few have a viable D8. Can also loop the rookies.
Fullarton could be really handy to slip into r3 and you can basically do a straight swap with Flynn when he maxes out, 1 trade for any player on the park.
Bruhn probably goes, pocket some coin in the process.
Scott has DPP, perfect for looping the rookie forwards.
As you know Lions supporter - I expect Sharp to be dropped with both Gardner and Adams sent down to supplement team. However I am keeping Sharp at D8 for loophole although not good this week, and also DPP which can ais flexibility,
Fullarton will probably continue to play especially with Big O under injury cloud.
I forgot the Brisbane players can't fly out. Adams and Gardiner aren't exactly like for like options unless Brisbane want to go even taller. I'm assuming one will come in if McInerney can't go
Darcy Gardiner, Rhys Mathieson, Marcus Adams and Connor Ballenden have all been flown down. Mathieson for Sharp seems more likely
If Sharp is dropped then he will have to be a DPP ( D8 ).
Hopefully there are no issues in defence in the coming weeks.
If that’s the case with Sharp then Fyfe goes to Jordon and Scott / Fullarton to Warner.
Dev Robertson was already in Melbourne with the team so he may be the inclusion for Sharp. Not sure what the situation with Ely is though as not sure whether he went down or not. Berry is also apparently fit to come in as well.
Could Sharp be a risk of being the sub player though? I'm wary of dropped fringe players as loophole options
Quote from: Hazza09 on March 29, 2021, 07:43:13 PM
If Sharp is dropped then he will have to be a DPP ( D8 ).
Hopefully there are no issues in defence in the coming weeks.
If that’s the case with Sharp then Fyfe goes to Jordon and Scott / Fullarton to Warner.
Brisbane play a stack of early games though, that really blunts your loopholing capability. Now there is a chance that Sharp returns but it's super hard to see him scoring that well. The 20 rolls around for a few games so any cash will be minimal.
This week Sharp is totally useless, can't even loop Grundy. Next week no super premos to loop, maybe Dusty but against Port? Nah.
Fyfe also better for Highmore & Kosi to be looped which was the original intention.
Quote from: Bully on March 29, 2021, 09:09:13 PM
Quote from: Hazza09 on March 29, 2021, 07:43:13 PM
If Sharp is dropped then he will have to be a DPP ( D8 ).
Hopefully there are no issues in defence in the coming weeks.
If that’s the case with Sharp then Fyfe goes to Jordon and Scott / Fullarton to Warner.
Brisbane play a stack of early games though, that really blunts your loopholing capability. Now there is a chance that Sharp returns but it's super hard to see him scoring that well. The 20 rolls around for a few games so any cash will be minimal.
This week Sharp is totally useless, can't even loop Grundy. Next week no super premos to loop, maybe Dusty but against Port? Nah.
Fyfe also better for Highmore & Kosi to be looped which was the original intention.
Excellent points Bully.
Something for me to think about.
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Quote from: Bully on March 29, 2021, 09:09:13 PM
Quote from: Hazza09 on March 29, 2021, 07:43:13 PM
If Sharp is dropped then he will have to be a DPP ( D8 ).
Hopefully there are no issues in defence in the coming weeks.
If that’s the case with Sharp then Fyfe goes to Jordon and Scott / Fullarton to Warner.
Brisbane play a stack of early games though, that really blunts your loopholing capability. Now there is a chance that Sharp returns but it's super hard to see him scoring that well. The 20 rolls around for a few games so any cash will be minimal.
This week Sharp is totally useless, can't even loop Grundy. Next week no super premos to loop, maybe Dusty but against Port? Nah.
Fyfe also better for Highmore & Kosi to be looped which was the original intention.
Excellent points Bully.
Something for me to think about.
Great point!
Looks like Sharp might have to go instead of Fyfe if he’s dropped.
Then I’ll have to decide between Scott and Bruhn for Jordon
So Sharp has been omitted, which isn’t a huge surprise.
Does he need to go for Jordon?
could be the medical sub, someone has to go for Jordon :)
Quote from: Hazza09 on March 31, 2021, 07:36:00 PM
So Sharp has been omitted, which isn’t a huge surprise.
Does he need to go for Jordon?
Yep, D8 is a dead position so may as well put a decent loop in his place.
Quote from: Colliwobblers on March 31, 2021, 07:37:26 PM
could be the medical sub, someone has to go for Jordon :)
Coleman, Prior, Sharp & Matheson are emergencies.
Out of them 4 most likely Coleman or Matheson.
sharp scott or jones for jordon.
like my dpp loophole options. think jones is capable of a big score especially if stringer comes in and hooker goes back
tempted to trade sharp
Thinking the same hold Jones and trading Sharp
Quote from: crowls on March 31, 2021, 11:23:06 PM
sharp scott or jones for jordon.
like my dpp loophole options. think jones is capable of a big score especially if stringer comes in and hooker goes back
tempted to trade sharp
Quote from: whynot102 on March 31, 2021, 11:25:20 PM
Thinking the same hold Jones and trading SharpQuote from: crowls on March 31, 2021, 11:23:06 PM
sharp scott or jones for jordon.
like my dpp loophole options. think jones is capable of a big score especially if stringer comes in and hooker goes back
tempted to trade sharp
hey whynot, if jones strings two games together we will bloody geniuses
Let’s hope he does another 5 points won’t help us out
Quote from: crowls on March 31, 2021, 11:28:33 PM
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Thinking the same hold Jones and trading SharpQuote from: crowls on March 31, 2021, 11:23:06 PM
sharp scott or jones for jordon.
like my dpp loophole options. think jones is capable of a big score especially if stringer comes in and hooker goes back
tempted to trade sharp
hey whynot, if jones strings two games together we will bloody geniuses
Luke Parks (102k def) to debut for Carlton
He will replace Williamson who has been awful the first couple of rounds.
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on April 01, 2021, 02:58:58 PM
Luke Parks (102k def) to debut for Carlton
I just googled him and he is a Sydney Swans Academy graduate.......
19-year-old Luke Parks was the Blues’ sole rookie selection and a great one at that. The Sydney Swans Academy graduate moved over to the SANFL with Glenelg after being overlooked last year and was superb across a full League season. Intercept marking is his great strength and he should provide solid depth down back given Carlton is running a touch thin in that department, at least as far as talls go
He averaged 12 touches and 72 SC in the SANFL last year
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on April 01, 2021, 03:36:38 PM
He averaged 12 touches and 72 SC in the SANFL last year
Thanks RD
Sounds like worthwhile watching his 1st 2 games and see how he adapts to AFL
deven robertson excellent for the lions on debut. 17 touches with 7 marks and 7 tackles. would have scored well. nice upgrade target if he holds his spot.
Quote from: Colliwobblers on April 01, 2021, 11:37:32 PM
deven robertson excellent for the lions on debut. 17 touches with 7 marks and 7 tackles. would have scored well. nice upgrade target if he holds his spot.
Nice stats, 176k so will have to put in another 80+ game but certainly on the watchlist.
Need Kozi or Powell to get dropped!
Quote from: Colliwobblers on April 01, 2021, 11:37:32 PM
deven robertson excellent for the lions on debut. 17 touches with 7 marks and 7 tackles. would have scored well. nice upgrade target if he holds his spot.
Robertson wasn't on debut as he played a game last year.
Quote from: Ingram on April 02, 2021, 01:22:48 AM
Need Kozi or Powell to get dropped!
Powell playing today.
Highmore dropped!
So have Bergman and Hunter
Jones held his spot
Hope Kosi plays otherwise eating a doughnut unless Briggs gets a game
They may play Briggs coming up against Gawn. Two rucks wouldn't be a shock
Quote from: Mat0369 on April 02, 2021, 09:14:28 PM
They may play Briggs coming up against Gawn. Two rucks wouldn't be a shock
Fingers crossed, otherwise I am eating a donut!
Thoughts on Stefan Giro from Freo? was sub rd 1 and scored 63 sc last week. Has had 7 touches and 29 sc in the first quarter. I feel he has been un-noticed based he has been at Freo for a while and not in many sc teams.
I went early and got him this week. Has played well and a SC friendly role.
Will hold spot on this performance easy.
Quote from: HoleMeal on April 04, 2021, 05:19:52 PM
I went early and got him this week. Has played well and a SC friendly role.
Will hold spot on this performance easy.
Nice catch, will probably bring him in this week.
Thinking Dow to Giro or Waterman.
I mentioned Giro last week and nearly grabbed him, but now he's definitely an option
If Highmore doesn't return, my D6 is looking dicey, so I might even grab both Freo rookies this week in Giro and Chapman
The only way I can get Chapman however is by trading Powell
Earlier than planned, but might be forced to do it - will wait and see on that one
One of Sharp or Fullarton to Giro seems very likely
Glad I offloaded Dow. The Blues dominated and he still struggled.
Quote from: Wanderer on April 04, 2021, 08:38:14 PM
Glad I offloaded Dow. The Blues dominated and he still struggled.
Played a lot of half forward. It resulted in him getting caught in no mans land a lot. He has no idea how to hunt the ball when it's not a clearance situation.
The 3 frees against didn't help his score today. 1 was a holding the vall and the other two were high tackles the Freo players slid. He should have gotten a holding the other way which wasn't paid. He was also stiffed on a goal assisst where McKay was tackled and got a whopping 3 points for the mark and kick. He still needs to go this week regardless
Nik Cox or Chapman might need to come in for defence if Highmore/Sharp not named again. Kozi probably just hanging on as well
Not sure who I will punt, maybe the loophole but I'd prefer to keep as these rookies are a nightmare to predict. Rowe perhaps? That 19 has trashed his cash generation.
I forgot that Giro was the sub in Round 1 and actually scored 27 so goes up this week
SC Gold had him projected to score 49 and increase to 153k. He scored much more than 49, so will likely be 170k+
Not sure he's a great pick at that price now :-\
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on April 04, 2021, 10:34:25 PM
I forgot that Giro was the sub in Round 1 and actually scored 27 so goes up this week
SC Gold had him projected to score 49 and increase to 153k. He scored much more than 49, so will likely be 170k+
Not sure he's a great pick at that price now :-\
That's a bit too much unfortunately. Might just save the trade for Waterman.
Yeah, I might just look at Kosi to Chapman this week
Might even go a week early on Waterman just to ensure I have both trades free the following week
The 27 comes out of his rotation on his next price rise. So he could still make some decent coin with the run of games he has coming up. As long as you're able to bank some cash bringing Giro in it could be worthwhile. Probably no different to bringing in Dev Robertson who I'm also looking at for the week after.
I like Giro but I can't see a way to get him in unless I cull a rookie early, maybe Rowe goes & that may even fix the hole at F6 by swinging Campbell forward. That could be a plan.
Dear god Dow was just woeful today. Is Chapman from Freo close to a must? Thinking I go Dow to Chapman via Sharp. Bergman and Highmore should both come straight back in next week for teams that just copped floggings, Bruhn probably does too based on the sheer volume of injuries going around.
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on April 04, 2021, 10:46:19 PM
Yeah, I might just look at Kosi to Chapman this week
Might even go a week early on Waterman just to ensure I have both trades free the following week
Yeah I could do the same kosi to Chapman. I have both Highmore and sharp but don't have enough cash.
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Quote from: RaisyDaisy on April 04, 2021, 10:46:19 PM
Yeah, I might just look at Kosi to Chapman this week
Might even go a week early on Waterman just to ensure I have both trades free the following week
Yeah I could do the same kosi to Chapman. I have both Highmore and sharp but don't have enough cash.
I do not have cash to do Kosi to Chapman but thinking of Dow to him via DPPs - Brockman/Scott and Sharp.
Quote from: Ringo on April 05, 2021, 03:30:37 PM
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Quote from: RaisyDaisy on April 04, 2021, 10:46:19 PM
Yeah, I might just look at Kosi to Chapman this week
Might even go a week early on Waterman just to ensure I have both trades free the following week
Yeah I could do the same kosi to Chapman. I have both Highmore and sharp but don't have enough cash.
I do not have cash to do Kosi to Chapman but thinking of Dow to him via DPPs - Brockman/Scott and Sharp.
Kosi goes up in price this week, so it should be a sideways that won't require cash
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Yeah, I might just look at Kosi to Chapman this week
Might even go a week early on Waterman just to ensure I have both trades free the following week
Yeah I could do the same kosi to Chapman. I have both Highmore and sharp but don't have enough cash.
I do not have cash to do Kosi to Chapman but thinking of Dow to him via DPPs - Brockman/Scott and Sharp.
Kosi goes up in price this week, so it should be a sideways that won't require cash
Yep ... $ 20k maybe. Better than a poke in the eye with a blunt umpires whistle
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Yeah, I might just look at Kosi to Chapman this week
Might even go a week early on Waterman just to ensure I have both trades free the following week
Yeah I could do the same kosi to Chapman. I have both Highmore and sharp but don't have enough cash.
I do not have cash to do Kosi to Chapman but thinking of Dow to him via DPPs - Brockman/Scott and Sharp.
Kosi goes up in price this week, so it should be a sideways that won't require cash
Yep ... $ 20k maybe. Better than a poke in the eye with a blunt umpires whistle
Yeah think Kosi won't be playing next week he was rubbish Clarko didn't look impressed when he dropped that sitter close to goal.
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Yeah, I might just look at Kosi to Chapman this week
Might even go a week early on Waterman just to ensure I have both trades free the following week
Yeah I could do the same kosi to Chapman. I have both Highmore and sharp but don't have enough cash.
I do not have cash to do Kosi to Chapman but thinking of Dow to him via DPPs - Brockman/Scott and Sharp.
Kosi goes up in price this week, so it should be a sideways that won't require cash
Yep ... $ 20k maybe. Better than a poke in the eye with a blunt umpires whistle
Yeah think Kosi won't be playing next week he was rubbish Clarko didn't look impressed when he dropped that sitter close to goal.
Him and Brockman are both gone next week let's be honest. Brockman was lucky that Hawthorn won in Round 1 he's been on borrowed time since anyway.
Quote from: IntegralX on April 05, 2021, 08:23:52 PM
Him and Brockman are both gone next week let's be honest. Brockman was lucky that Hawthorn won in Round 1 he's been on borrowed time since anyway.
???
Brockman has been pretty good his first two games. He will hold his spot and he looked a lot more comfortable late in the game. O'Brien for Kosi is looking likely though. I might look to turn him into Parks or Waterman next week.
What do we know about Luke Parks?
I’m not entirely sure on Chapman but Kosi to Chapman is essentially a straight swap.
Would ideally like to bring in Jiath for Kosi but that’s going to require 2 trades.
I don’t have Dow, Phillips or Young so not sure who else to downgrade.
Quote from: Colliwobblers on April 05, 2021, 11:15:25 PM
What do we know about Luke Parks?
Intercept defender that went from the Swans academy to the SANFL. He didn't look out of place for a first gamer and gave a lot more than Williamson has so far this season. He had the opportunity to clunk a couple but went for the spoil instead. He was also coming up against a dysfunctional Freo forward line so I'd like to see him again.
The one downside with Parks is Marchbank. I believe he is finally fit and should start to see some reserves footy this weekend. He is warming his spot right now and will likely be out as soon as he is fit. Marchbank staying fit is a completely different story.
THE ROOKIES
Heath Chapman (Freo)
$148,800, Def
KFC SuperCoaches are well aware of the rookie crisis in defence and this young Docker looks to be the answer to our prayers.
Chapman was a shining light on a disappointing afternoon for the Dockers, gathering 18 disposals, eight intercept possessions, six tackles, five rebound 50s and 86 KFC SuperCoach points - an improvement from his 42 points on debut.
The first-round draftee was a prominent interceptor at under-18 level last year, averaging 10.5 intercepts, 4.6 intercept marks and a whopping 132 points per game in the WAFL Colts, providing an attacking springboard for
His aggressive play coupled with Fremantle’s mounting injury list â€" with Hayden Young the latest casualty - makes him a high-quality option in a line where we are bereft of rookies.
-The Advertiser
Kosi to Chappy locked.
Finlay Macrae likely to debut this week, great news for my sick bench.
Pies are talking multiple rookies. I'd honestly rather they come into calculations in a fortnight. I feel Waterman this week and Jones and Treacy next week will provide enough in terms of downgrades.
Bergman is likely to get a run with the Port injuries. He is a bubble boy for those that don't have him.
Be a brave man who trust a collingwood rookie.
Quote from: Colliwobblers on April 13, 2021, 12:43:09 AM
Be a brave man who trust a collingwood rookie.
Be a brave man not to trust a Macrae. ;)
Quote from: Bully on April 12, 2021, 09:05:50 PM
Finlay Macrae likely to debut this week, great news for my sick bench.
Confirmed as playing.
https://www.afl.com.au/news/583750/finn-is-in-pies-to-unleash-draftee-on-friday-night
With Adams LTI he might get a decent run at it, heaven forbid our club has a reality check and injects youth ::)
For those holding Highmore, Webster's injury may open the door, here's hoping.
Quote from: Bully on April 15, 2021, 10:26:56 PM
For those holding Highmore, Webster's injury may open the door, here's hoping.
And McKenzie was absolutely putrid
If Highmore can't get a look in next week then I'm not sure he will again anytime soon
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on April 16, 2021, 07:13:26 AM
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For those holding Highmore, Webster's injury may open the door, here's hoping.
And McKenzie was absolutely putrid
If Highmore can't get a look in next week then I'm not sure he will again anytime soon
Agree, we just him to play 2-3 games and then trade him if he's out again
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For those holding Highmore, Webster's injury may open the door, here's hoping.
And McKenzie was absolutely putrid
If Highmore can't get a look in next week then I'm not sure he will again anytime soon
Agree, we just him to play 2-3 games and then trade him if he's out again
With a -68 B/E cash generation for 2/3 games would be great,
So this week may be make or break for a lot of sides. We appear to have the following rookie options.
Defence
Mansell
Prior
Reid (1 game)
Mids
Robertson (may not play and pricey)
Macrae (1 game)
Perkins (price rise already)
Giro (see Perkins but fringe)
Forwards
Jones (gross)
Langdon (gross)
McCreery
Stone
Tom Campbell (double gross)
Treacy
Is there anyone worth grabbing right now?
Quote from: Mat0369 on April 23, 2021, 04:17:18 PM
So this week may be make or break for a lot of sides. We appear to have the following rookie options.
Defence
Mansell
Prior
Reid (1 game)
Mids
Robertson (may not play and pricey)
Macrae (1 game)
Perkins (price rise already)
Giro (see Perkins but fringe)
Forwards
Jones (gross)
Langdon (gross)
McCreery
Stone
Tom Campbell (double gross)
Treacy
Is there anyone worth grabbing right now?
Only one I'm considering right now is McCreery. He's been okay if unspectacular but gets the Bombers this week. I'm thinking he comes in for Campbell who appears topped out.
Highmore not named in VFL squad so probably on standby for Webster.
https://boxhillhawks.com.au/round-2-ins-outs/
Brockman named but no Kosi.
Ceglar injured! I had no idea. Okay, Nash for Lewis seems to be the move there so Kosi will play.
I just don't love the idea of picking any of those rookies
I might just cop the donut if Highmore doesn't get named (Ridley cover)
Menadue named for his 2nd game too, but not interested in him either
I already have Kosi so he covers Ridley this week. I need to dump Clark and it's either upgrade him to a premium or downgrade him to Mansell. I wouldn't be burning a trade to get Kosi in.
Quote from: Bully on April 23, 2021, 06:11:56 PM
https://boxhillhawks.com.au/round-2-ins-outs/
Brockman named but no Kosi.
The (dangerous) implication here is that Kosi won't be dropped this week then. I'm wondering if I'm willing to risk a donut off the back of this.
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https://boxhillhawks.com.au/round-2-ins-outs/
Brockman named but no Kosi.
The (dangerous) implication here is that Kosi won't be dropped this week then. I'm wondering if I'm willing to risk a donut off the back of this.
I reckon a trade is worth more than a donut at this point in the game but it's clearly a risk either way.
Quote from: IntegralX on April 23, 2021, 07:39:26 PM
The (dangerous) implication here is that Kosi won't be dropped this week then. I'm wondering if I'm willing to risk a donut off the back of this.
Kosi played well last week. I would be shocked if he was dropped. Ceglar injured and Nash out for Lewis seems to be the change.
Would rather miss a Kosi 40 than lose a trade.
McNeil came on nice and early for those that had him. That's pretty good for his cash gen with the 50 he scored. Bruhn on the other hand. 8 after coming on in the first quarter is a pretty awful result.
McNeill & Scott can almost sign off on a job well done, will be 100k profit from both with some scope to hit 150k. Just goes to show the value of mature age rookies.
Quote from: Bully on April 24, 2021, 01:08:47 AM
McNeill & Scott can almost sign off on a job well done, will be 100k profit from both with some scope to hit 150k. Just goes to show the value of mature age rookies.
Got both and they have been decent for $102K rookies.
I wasn't too keen on Mansell, but with Dunkley going down I am now going to grab him
Berry is injured so Berry to Mansell nets over 100k which is good enough for me, and with Vlas out for a few weeks I'll just hope Mansell can survive for a few more games, plus I avoid a donut down back with that too, but more importantly the cash I get from that trade, plus doing Campbell to Macrae (have to go early this week) means I can do Dunkley and a rookie to 2 prems next week
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I wasn't too keen on Mansell, but with Dunkley going down I am now going to grab him
Berry is injured so Berry to Mansell nets over 100k which is good enough for me, and with Vlas out for a few weeks I'll just hope Mansell can survive for a few more games, plus I avoid a donut down back with that too, but more importantly the cash I get from that trade, plus doing Campbell to Macrae (have to go early this week) means I can do Dunkley and a rookie to 2 prems next week
Sound planning, dependent on the Swans game I'll be doing some number crunching in order to grab Zorko/Sidey & hopefully Neale. Will be barracking hard for Curnow.
Thoughts on Deven Robertson with Neale out, his JS seems okay and has a BE of 1.
Quote from: Fid on April 26, 2021, 04:22:45 PM
Thoughts on Deven Robertson with Neale out, his JS seems okay and has a BE of 1.
Looking at him and/or Mitchell Lewis. Gotta be better than the dead rubbers I already have. Can't help but thinking Finlay Mcrae will be another one.
Collier-Dawkins to make an appearance, not sure about his scoring potential however, might be another slow burn.
Poulter to debut for the pies.
Quote from: tkringle on April 28, 2021, 05:11:35 PM
Poulter to debut for the pies.
What is the story on him?
Quote from: RoughRed on April 28, 2021, 09:47:49 PM
Quote from: tkringle on April 28, 2021, 05:11:35 PM
Poulter to debut for the pies.
What is the story on him?
Pick 30 in last years draft, expected to play on a wing but has played in all parts of the ground
@RD thanks, researching more now
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Thoughts on Deven Robertson with Neale out, his JS seems okay and has a BE of 1.
Looking at him and/or Mitchell Lewis. Gotta be better than the dead rubbers I already have. Can't help but thinking Finlay Mcrae will be another one.
I grabbed Dev last week as I was not keen on going early on anyone had traded Short into Def for Danger. Wanted Mills/LLoyd but bye put them off. Saw the game at Marvel between Lions and Carlton. With Neale out I expect Robertson to continue to get games and time around the ball. I am hoping for 70+ on the field coverage and cash gen of 150+ before trading out around the byes. 97 in first game exceeded expectations but happy to take it.
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Thoughts on Deven Robertson with Neale out, his JS seems okay and has a BE of 1.
Looking at him and/or Mitchell Lewis. Gotta be better than the dead rubbers I already have. Can't help but thinking Finlay Mcrae will be another one.
I grabbed Dev last week as I was not keen on going early on anyone had traded Short into Def for Danger. Wanted Mills/LLoyd but bye put them off. Saw the game at Marvel between Lions and Carlton. With Neale out I expect Robertson to continue to get games and time around the ball. I am hoping for 70+ on the field coverage and cash gen of 150+ before trading out around the byes. 97 in first game exceeded expectations but happy to take it.
His DPP is handy. I am getting smashed by the deadwood rookies on my bench. This week Dunks and Dusty to deal with now.
Well and truly behind in my cash leagues H2H and taking a risk going early on Frederick this week!
Yeah my worry is I bring in Macrae this week and he scores another 30 and gets dropped. That could be disastrous already carrying Highmore down back, Waterman in the forward line and Brockman in the midfield. Rowe and Chapman appear to have hit a wall while McCreery is a slow burn and Bergman is turning it over resulting in bigger DT scores.
The other available rookies are Atu, Farrar, Flanders and Menedue that have played under 2 games. The guys that have played over and are under 200k include Mansell, Treacy, Prior, Bruhn, Stone, Tom Campbell, Giro, Ruscoe, Jermaine Jones, Lazzaro, Langdon, Jones and McNeil.
I can only get a mid into my side so the two options right now are Robertson and Macrae.
Start Kosi or Chapman
Quote from: whynot102 on April 29, 2021, 09:42:32 PM
Start Kosi or Chapman
I would go Chapman, unless you think Kosi is going to kick another 5 goals
Nick Bryan to make his debut for the Bombers vs the Blues
essendonfc.com.au/news/923089/bryan-to-make-debut (http://essendonfc.com.au/news/923089/bryan-to-make-debut)
On the plus side for deciding what to do with our rookies, teams are going to be announced on the Thursday night again! Not sure if it is this week or in the next few.
Quote from: Mat0369 on May 04, 2021, 04:22:48 PM
On the plus side for deciding what to do with our rookies, teams are going to be announced on the Thursday night again! Not sure if it is this week or in the next few.
rnd 9 is likely start for thur night teams. what a relief!
Heads up for everyone that Frederick is out this week, but could be sub.
Defence has just been one disaster after another this year. What a debacle
thoughts on murray or murphy instead of frederick??
have they been named??
Quote from: Keeper27 on May 07, 2021, 05:25:26 PM
thoughts on murray or murphy instead of frederick??
have they been named??
Murphy named But for how long?
Think I'll have a stab at RCD, bigger points potential & can be looped tonight.
Quote from: Bully on May 07, 2021, 06:53:57 PM
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thoughts on murray or murphy instead of frederick??
have they been named??
Murphy named But for how long?
Think he will get a good run at it Bully. Really rated highly by the pies.
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thoughts on murray or murphy instead of frederick??
have they been named??
Murphy named But for how long?
Think he will get a good run at it Bully. Really rated highly by the pies.
I'm also concerned about his scoring potential, looks like a 50-55 average & that's probably a backward step if you're fielding him.
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Quote from: Keeper27 on May 07, 2021, 05:25:26 PM
thoughts on murray or murphy instead of frederick??
have they been named??
Murphy named But for how long?
Think he will get a good run at it Bully. Really rated highly by the pies.
I'm also concerned about his scoring potential, looks like a 50-55 average & that's probably a backward step if you're fielding him.
I will take a steady 55 given I have been coping Chapman's 20's recently!
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Quote from: Keeper27 on May 07, 2021, 05:25:26 PM
thoughts on murray or murphy instead of frederick??
have they been named??
Murphy named But for how long?
Think he will get a good run at it Bully. Really rated highly by the pies.
I'm also concerned about his scoring potential, looks like a 50-55 average & that's probably a backward step if you're fielding him.
I will take a steady 55 given I have been coping Chapman's 20's recently!
Will be on bench for me so happy with a slow burn to make cash and the cover.
Yeah I think I decided on Murphy as well. I'll field him this week with the Hawks playing the Eagles and Pies playing North, but he goes to the bench for me next week and I can structure up better grabbing RCD next week for my mid bench. Only issue is I will have no defensive cover if he gets dropped with Highmore at D8.
Howe back soon worries me but Keane and Poulter also have to make way. I feel my structure and the fact I can do a 1 down 1 up this week wins out.
Highmore not even a late in for Seb Ross.
Supercoach can GAGF. Murphy concussed, Frederick subbed in. Where is the delete back line option. Wasted so many trades trying to fix it this year it's beyond a joke
According to Brice Mitchell on Twitter....
Warner loses1k $329k new price 75BE topped out/plateaued
Gulden loses 15k already topped out
Jordan makes 38k $326k new price 19BE heading to 357k approx
Powell makes 23k $381k new price 58BE heading to 390k nearly topped out
Rowe makes 1k new price $235k 26BE could make another 25k over the next two weeks with 50s
Frederick makes 46k new price $170k BE 11 f***!
Berry loses 3k 209k new price BE 37
Collingwood are going to investigate/challenge and see if Murphy (and Roughead) can play next week, as both passed their concussion tests
Would be very helpful for me if Murphy can play next week
Powell on the chopping block this week, probs a downgrade for Byrnes.
Frederick playing spoils the party, was hoping to pick him up this week. I'm sure he gets games now that Houston is injured.
RCD likely to get a few more now that Sheds is injured, played ok I thought, needs to tidy up the disposal but his contested work was impressive.
Quote from: Bully on May 09, 2021, 10:14:30 AM
Powell on the chopping block this week, probs a downgrade for Byrnes.
Frederick playing spoils the party, was hoping to pick him up this week. I'm sure he gets games now that Houston is injured.
RCD likely to get a few more now that Sheds is injured, played ok I thought, needs to tidy up the disposal but his contested work was impressive.
Powell to Byrnes doesn't sound like a good trade at all. Byrnes will have shaky JS and Powell/Jordon should be the last 2 rookies to upgrade - they can stay on field for weeks to come. Who cares if they eventually lose a little cash - their points scoring trumps losing a few bucks
Plenty of other rookies that need to go first
I'll be grabbing Poulter this week and passing on RCD
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Powell on the chopping block this week, probs a downgrade for Byrnes.
Frederick playing spoils the party, was hoping to pick him up this week. I'm sure he gets games now that Houston is injured.
RCD likely to get a few more now that Sheds is injured, played ok I thought, needs to tidy up the disposal but his contested work was impressive.
Powell to Byrnes doesn't sound like a good trade at all. Byrnes will have shaky JS and Powell/Jordon should be the last 2 rookies to upgrade - they can stay on field for weeks to come. Who cares if they eventually lose a little cash - their points scoring trumps losing a few bucks
Plenty of other rookies that need to go first
I'll be grabbing Poulter this week and passing on RCD
Need to plug D6 so I'm making the move early, Kosi going up to premo defender unless he rips out another 80+ score.
Poulter has DPP so maybe a better option, will assess over the next few days.
How critical is Mills? Was looking at him as a potential upgrade but he's now 560k, might have missed that boat. Next best probably Rich.
If Murphy passed his concussion test why the hell did they sub him? Was absolutely killing it to that point as well.
I'm looking at Poulter over RCD as well for the DPP. Might even go the double down next week and load up the dollars to attack the upgrades heading into the byes
RICHMOND will unveil second-year player Hugo Ralphsmith on Saturday night against GWS.
The 188cm utility has impressed during the VFL this season and has been named an emergency for a number of rounds in 2021.
He will be the fourth Tiger to debut this season.
GOLD COAST will unleash its first debutant of the season, with Malcolm Rosas Jr to face the Brisbane Lions on Saturday.
Rosas Jr will come into the side for Nick Holman, who’ll miss the QClash after sustaining a concussion in the loss to St Kilda.
The 19-year-old will be named after a promising start to his 2021 VFL campaign, booting two goals and averaging 13 disposals
and five tackles across three games playing as a pressure small forward
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Highmore back in, that is good news indeed.
Finally can get some cash rolling into that spot
Quote from: Mat0369 on May 13, 2021, 07:07:26 PM
Finally can get some cash rolling into that spot
Highmore & L.Jones leading into the byes looks good on paper, pretty solid bench material.
Briggs to debut. That means no Flynn
Quote from: Mat0369 on May 13, 2021, 09:33:19 PM
Briggs to debut. That means no Flynn
Could be both possibly.
Tom Wilson, Ronin O'Connor and Hugo Ralphsmith debuting too
Sounds like Lachie Jones is a chance to be back next week as well - handy for us who don't have him
Quote from: Bully on May 13, 2021, 09:44:07 PM
Could be both possibly.
Unless he is replacing Keefe I highly doubt it. Article made it sound like he would ruck
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Could be both possibly.
Unless he is replacing Keefe I highly doubt it. Article made it sound like he would ruck
Rucking solo for an entire match would be a big call for a debutant, think there's some chance it will be split duties. In any case I'm trading Flynn next week, 40k or not.
Think we have to - 3 weeks from a game
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Could be both possibly.
Unless he is replacing Keefe I highly doubt it. Article made it sound like he would ruck
Rucking solo for an entire match would be a big call for a debutant, think there's some chance it will be split duties. In any case I'm trading Flynn next week, 40k or not.
Herald Sun suggesting Mummy will be taking his usual break, and it will be both Flynn and Briggs playing
The 21-year-old is likely to partner Flynn, with Mumford taking his usual break after a fortnight of playing, against Tigers premiership ruckman Toby Nankervis, who Briggs has been likened to.
In like Flynn, very handy cash injection, minimum 30k I reckon.
Too late to grab RCD? He has made 58.6k already which is a decent chunk of change but currently sits at $182,500 which isn't too bad. I'm looking for a downgrade target this week and we have absolutely 0. Jones is subject to a fitness test for Port so he could be back and he will be my preference if he is on the bubble.
Quote from: Mat0369 on May 19, 2021, 12:14:06 AM
Too late to grab RCD? He has made 58.6k already which is a decent chunk of change but currently sits at $182,500 which isn't too bad. I'm looking for a downgrade target this week and we have absolutely 0. Jones is subject to a fitness test for Port so he could be back and he will be my preference if he is on the bubble.
Is it worth looking at Nathan Murphy should Jones not get up. Cheaper than RCD and concussion protocols prevented playing last week.
Already have Murphy
Quote from: Mat0369 on May 19, 2021, 12:14:06 AM
Too late to grab RCD? He has made 58.6k already which is a decent chunk of change but currently sits at $182,500 which isn't too bad. I'm looking for a downgrade target this week and we have absolutely 0. Jones is subject to a fitness test for Port so he could be back and he will be my preference if he is on the bubble.
Not too late, RCD still in the frame to make 150k & will be useful over the byes.
Quote from: Mat0369 on May 19, 2021, 12:14:06 AM
Too late to grab RCD?
For most people, I'd say yes it's too late. You really need to get those rookies on the bubble. Depends on the rest of your team, how much money you have and bye planning though.
Will Lachlan Jones be the medical sub or do I go Murray
Quote from: whynot102 on May 21, 2021, 05:44:42 PM
Will Lachlan Jones be the medical sub or do I go Murray
the med sub will most likely come from the emerg's, probably Bergman my guess
Jones has been named so he can't be the sub this week at the minimum. He seems like a solid bet as a rookie. I'm grabbing him this week to run at D6 for the time being.
Quote from: Mat0369 on May 21, 2021, 06:48:44 PM
Jones has been named so he can't be the sub this week at the minimum. He seems like a solid bet as a rookie. I'm grabbing him this week to run at D6 for the time being.
Ditto
Madden is looking like a really good option for next week
Quote from: Mat0369 on May 21, 2021, 09:47:24 PM
Madden is looking like a really good option for next week
Plenty of ripe fwd rookies ready to cull too, so that works out well
DPP very handy more so for trading purposes moving forward too
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on May 21, 2021, 10:44:31 PM
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Madden is looking like a really good option for next week
Plenty of ripe fwd rookies ready to cull too, so that works out well
DPP very handy more so for trading purposes moving forward too
Will be his position to lose if he plays like last night very impressive. (Has some speed) Have both Payne and Answerth waiting in the wings returning from injury to put pressure on. May depend on opposition and setups.
Yeah was all set for the double upgrade but now not sure I want to pass on Madden.
With Lynch out Coleman-Jones likely to get a decent run. Could be the perfect downgrade for Flynn (he also has DPP).
Trent Bianco will make his AFL debut for the club this Saturday against Geelong.
The 20-year-old was told the news by coach Nathan Buckley in front of the squad on Thursday afternoon.
Coleman Jones looking like a good option, reckon he will get a good run, particularly with Lynch undergoing surgery. The fact he is DPP is hugely appealing, over the byes this will be handy, especially in tandem with Treacy.
Some footage of Cocky on the Brisbane website, looks to be building nicely.
Quote from: Bully on May 28, 2021, 04:38:40 PM
Some footage of Cocky on the Brisbane website, looks to be building nicely.
Was keeping that one to myself. Interesting though is who he will replace.
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Some footage of Cocky on the Brisbane website, looks to be building nicely.
Was keeping that one to myself. Interesting though is who he will replace.
Madden roulette.
Every chance he doesn't get a game this year
Couldn't trust him as far as you could throw him
Spewing I didn't grab Weightman after this first quarter.
Who would you go early on? Bianco or Reeves?
Quote from: Bully on May 31, 2021, 09:32:06 PM
Who would you go early on? Bianco or Reeves?
Both
Either way, these 2 plus CCJ are musts for everyone imo so whether you go early or not prob doesn't matter as you will end up getting both by next week anyway - nothing else coming through and time to milk some cows to these guys
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on May 31, 2021, 11:06:41 PM
Quote from: Bully on May 31, 2021, 09:32:06 PM
Who would you go early on? Bianco or Reeves?
Both
Either way, these 2 plus CCJ are musts for everyone imo so whether you go early or not prob doesn't matter as you will end up getting both by next week anyway - nothing else coming through and time to milk some cows to these guys
Some logic in grabbing them this week & then upgrading next week.
I'm waiting to grab CCJ after his bye. I'm thinking Reeves this week and could potentially go double up with the other two trades. Otherwise it's Kosi to Bianco, Flynn to Reeves and a single upgrade
Thinking of grabbing all 3 CCJ, Reeves and Bianco this week to improve benches. Kosi, Flynn and Brockman to go.
Anyone know what Holmes JS is like as he looms as a downgrade option after his bye this week.
Terrible. Will likely be in for Duncan and you have Duncan, Guthrie and Danger all likely ins post bye
Quote from: Mat0369 on June 01, 2021, 12:55:13 AM
I'm waiting to grab CCJ after his bye. I'm thinking Reeves this week and could potentially go double up with the other two trades. Otherwise it's Kosi to Bianco, Flynn to Reeves and a single upgrade
CCJ plays however, better to have his score this week just in case he busts out another ton. Reeves in next week.
Quote from: Bully on June 01, 2021, 03:41:41 PM
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I'm waiting to grab CCJ after his bye. I'm thinking Reeves this week and could potentially go double up with the other two trades. Otherwise it's Kosi to Bianco, Flynn to Reeves and a single upgrade
CCJ plays however, better to have his score this week just in case he busts out another ton. Reeves in next week.
Handy cover for Grundy this week and has DPP. With Nank out, he could be potential number 1 ruck if first year ruck Ryan isnt named...but they would need CCJ up FWD with Lynch out. So will be interesting who the Tiges select tonight.
Chol is the first choice ruck. I'm looking pretty cooked for next week so I will need Reeves on field. I still need to work out logistics but Madden and Highmore are making my life difficult