I will update this list periodically during the draft but lets keep all chat about the draft in here please.
1: Karl-Anthony Towns
2: D'Angelo Russel
3: Jalhil Okafor
4: Kristaps Porzingis
5: Mario Hezonja
6: Willie Cauley-Stein
7: Emmanuel Mudiay
8: Stanley Johnson
9: Frank Kaminsky
10: Justice Winslow
11: Myles Turner
12: Trey Lyles
13: Devin Booker
14: Cameron Payne
15: Kelly Oubre
16: Terry Rozier
17: Rashad Vaughn
18: Sam Dekker
19: Jerian Grant
20: Delon Wright
21: Justin Anderson
22: Bobby Portis
23: Rondae Hollis-Jefferson
24: Tyus Jones
25: Jarell Martin
26: Nikola Milutinov
27: Larry Nance Jr
28: RJ Hunter
29: Chris McCullough
30: Kevon Looney
31: Cedi Osman
32: Montrezl Harrell
33: Jordan Mickey
34: Anthony Brown
35: Guillermo Hernangomez
36: Rakeem Christmas
37: Richaun Holmes
38: Darrun Hilliard
39: Juan Vaulet
40: Josh Richardson
41: Pat Connaughton
42: Olivier Hanlan
43: Joseph Young
44; Andrew Harrison
45: Marcus Thornton
46: Normal Powell
47: Arturas Gudaitis
48: Dakari Johnson
49: Aaron White
50: Marcus Eriksson
51: Tyler Harvey
52: Satnam Singh
53: Sir'Dominic Pointer
54: Daniel Diez
55: Cady Lalanne
56: Branden Dawson
57: Nikola Radicevic
58: J.P Tokoto
59: Dimitrios Agravanis
60: Luka Mitrovic
Guessing game: Who will make the first trade during the draft?
word is the Celtics and the hornets are gonna exchange picks, players havent been named
Quote from: RiOtChEsS on June 26, 2015, 10:24:57 AM
word is the Celtics and the hornets are gonna exchange picks, players havent been named
Yep also heard the same news
Boston have the most stored picks so it would be a safe bet to assume they want to deal.
Kings are on the clock; Please pick Willie Cauley-Stein
Adrian Woj just tweeted that Kings selected Willie Cauley-Stein
WEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
Quote from: valkorum on June 26, 2015, 10:30:44 AM
Kings are on the clock; Please pick Willie Cauley-Stein
was just about to ask who u wanted
Quote from: RiOtChEsS on June 26, 2015, 10:33:13 AM
Quote from: valkorum on June 26, 2015, 10:30:44 AM
Kings are on the clock; Please pick Willie Cauley-Stein
was just about to ask who u wanted
Best big defender in the draft - we need one of them to put next to Cousins
Quote from: valkorum on June 26, 2015, 10:34:23 AM
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Quote from: valkorum on June 26, 2015, 10:30:44 AM
Kings are on the clock; Please pick Willie Cauley-Stein
was just about to ask who u wanted
Best big defender in the draft - we need one of them to put next to Cousins
yeah i like the pairing
Jayman's gonna be upset - he wanted Boston to trade up to get Willie Cauley-Stein
Nice, that starting 5 is actually looking good
Collison
Maclemore
Gay
WCS
DmC
this is increasing our chances on Booker
Marc Stein just tweeted that Celtics and Hornets are discussing a deal
Boston gives pick 16 & 28 for pick 9
Quote from: RiOtChEsS on June 26, 2015, 10:37:07 AM
Nice, that starting 5 is actually looking good
Collison
Maclemore
Gay
WCS
DmC
Yep, starting to look good to me as well. Bench needs some work now
w0w Mudiay to the Nuggets, Karl wants Lawson and Denver drafts a PG, Karl wants to trade a C and Kings draft a C
hoping Winslow slides to us, long shot but that would be 8)
yessssss we should get Booker or Winslow
Interesting choice - Pistons choose Stanley Johnson
Quote from: valkorum on June 26, 2015, 10:50:58 AM
Interesting choice - Hornets choose Stanley Johnson
Pistons ;)
Yeh I just edited. I was looking at who is picking next while writing that one :)
Word is Hornets keep their pick and take Frank "the tank" Kaminsky
Winslow please
Its official - Heat select Justice Winslow with pick #10
Quote from: RiOtChEsS on June 26, 2015, 10:46:26 AM
hoping Winslow slides to us, long shot but that would be 8)
got him :o
Whiteside
Bosh
Winslow
Wade
Dragic
Not to bad at all
Quote from: My Chumps on June 26, 2015, 11:02:40 AM
Quote from: RiOtChEsS on June 26, 2015, 10:46:26 AM
hoping Winslow slides to us, long shot but that would be 8)
got him :o
Quote from: valkorum on June 26, 2015, 11:02:22 AM
Its official - Heat select Justice Winslow with pick #10
Fk yessssssssssss so happy Justise Winslow #HeatNation
Quote from: valkorum on June 26, 2015, 11:03:25 AM
Whiteside
Bosh
Winslow
Wade
Dragic
Not to bad at all
dont forget Deng, Winslow could come off the bench
Jazz are listening to trade overtures for pick 12 - according to Woj
Quote from: valkorum on June 26, 2015, 11:08:26 AM
Jazz are listening to trade overtures for pick 12 - according to Woj
whoever picks Booker is gonna get a good player, he was the only guy i was looking at for us because i didnt think Winslow would slide
Quote from: RiOtChEsS on June 26, 2015, 11:12:24 AM
Quote from: valkorum on June 26, 2015, 11:08:26 AM
Jazz are listening to trade overtures for pick 12 - according to Woj
whoever picks Booker is gonna get a good player, he was the only guy i was looking at for us because i didnt think Winslow would slide
Thunder looking to move up
Screw you Lakers. Okafor was the obvious pick for 6'ers though, you can't pass up talent and Okafor had the most talent on the board. Trip tower rotation and let the cream rise. It gives you trade bait down the track. They still need a PG bad and another wing will go handy.
Quote from: RiOtChEsS on June 26, 2015, 11:12:24 AM
Quote from: valkorum on June 26, 2015, 11:08:26 AM
Jazz are listening to trade overtures for pick 12 - according to Woj
whoever picks Booker is gonna get a good player, he was the only guy i was looking at for us because i didnt think Winslow would slide
Woj saying Suns pick Booker with pick 13
Quote from: valkorum on June 26, 2015, 11:19:25 AM
Quote from: RiOtChEsS on June 26, 2015, 11:12:24 AM
Quote from: valkorum on June 26, 2015, 11:08:26 AM
Jazz are listening to trade overtures for pick 12 - according to Woj
whoever picks Booker is gonna get a good player, he was the only guy i was looking at for us because i didnt think Winslow would slide
Woj saying Suns pick Booker with pick 13
really good pick if they go there
Quote from: Mat0369 on June 26, 2015, 11:18:09 AM
Screw you Lakers. Okafor was the obvious pick for 6'ers though, you can't pass up talent and Okafor had the most talent on the board. Trip tower rotation and let the cream rise. It gives you trade bait down the track. They still need a PG bad and another wing will go handy.
dont mind the pairing of Okafor and Noel, compliment each other well
besides Embiid will never play, Oden V2.0 :D
Marc Stein saying Bucks closing in on deal with Raptors for Grievis Vasquez
Quote from: valkorum on June 26, 2015, 11:19:25 AM
Quote from: RiOtChEsS on June 26, 2015, 11:12:24 AM
Quote from: valkorum on June 26, 2015, 11:08:26 AM
Jazz are listening to trade overtures for pick 12 - according to Woj
whoever picks Booker is gonna get a good player, he was the only guy i was looking at for us because i didnt think Winslow would slide
Woj saying Suns pick Booker with pick 13
Its official
Quote from: valkorum on June 26, 2015, 11:23:08 AM
Marc Stein saying Bucks closing in on deal with Raptors for Grievis Vasquez
to back up i guess
Quote from: RiOtChEsS on June 26, 2015, 11:22:46 AM
dont mind the pairing of Okafor and Noel, compliment each other well
besides Embiid will never play, Oden V2.0 :D
Or you play throwback ball and have 2 guys with ridiculous post skills farking teams up week in week out with Noel blocking everything in sight
Quote from: valkorum on June 26, 2015, 11:23:08 AM
Marc Stein saying Bucks closing in on deal with Raptors for Grievis Vasquez
Deal is apparently:
Toronto get future 1st and pick 46
Quote from: Mat0369 on June 26, 2015, 11:25:06 AM
Quote from: RiOtChEsS on June 26, 2015, 11:22:46 AM
dont mind the pairing of Okafor and Noel, compliment each other well
besides Embiid will never play, Oden V2.0 :D
Or you play throwback ball and have 2 guys with ridiculous post skills farking teams up week in week out with Noel blocking everything in sight
too many talls is a great problem to have
Oubre drafted by Hawks traded to Wiz for pick 19 and two 2nd rounders
here come Boston
Woj is saying Terry Rozier to Boston
Terry Rozier ???
Quote from: RiOtChEsS on June 26, 2015, 11:45:37 AM
Terry Rozier ???
3 PG's on the roster now with Smart, Thomas and now Rozier - this pick doesnt make sense to me???
Quote from: valkorum on June 26, 2015, 11:52:26 AM
Quote from: RiOtChEsS on June 26, 2015, 11:45:37 AM
Terry Rozier ???
3 PG's on the roster now with Smart, Thomas and now Rozier - this pick doesnt make sense to me???
gotta be dealing someone u would think
So Oubre to Wiz, Hardaway Jr to Hawks, Jerian Grant to NY Knicks
Quote from: RiOtChEsS on June 26, 2015, 12:07:12 PM
So Oubre to Wiz, Hardaway Jr to Hawks, Jerian Grant to NY Knicks
Ho Grant's son
PG Jerian Grant
SG Shved/Galloway
SF Carmelo Anthony
PF Greg Monroe (rumoured FA signing)
C Porzingis
considerably better team than what they were turning out last season
Quote from: RiOtChEsS on June 26, 2015, 12:14:52 PM
PG Jerian Grant
SG Shved/Galloway
SF Carmelo Anthony
PF Greg Monroe (rumoured FA signing)
C Porzingis
considerably better team than what they were turning out last season
Definitely looks better - now the big question is can they all play the triangle
Quote from: valkorum on June 26, 2015, 12:16:29 PM
Quote from: RiOtChEsS on June 26, 2015, 12:14:52 PM
PG Jerian Grant
SG Shved/Galloway
SF Carmelo Anthony
PF Greg Monroe (rumoured FA signing)
C Porzingis
considerably better team than what they were turning out last season
Definitely looks better - now the big question is can they all play the triangle
wouldnt be surprised to see them tank again next year
Portis to the Bulls is an interesting pick, could be a steal
RHJ to Portland, with Aldridge not returning acquiring Vonleh, they r looking young
Quote from: RiOtChEsS on June 26, 2015, 12:36:19 PM
RHJ to Portland, with Aldridge not returning acquiring Vonleh, they r looking young
Brooklyn apparently looking to trade for RHJ - according to Woj
Cleveland to pick Tyus Jones but send him to Minnesota for Picks 31 & 36
edit: Also, potentially a future 1st rounder to Cavs as well
Quote from: valkorum on June 26, 2015, 12:42:31 PM
Cleveland to pick Tyus Jones but send him to Minnesota for Picks 31 & 36
edit: Also, potentially a future 1st rounder to Cavs as well
good move by Cavs, increase depth
here come the Spurs, this is always interesting
Quote from: RiOtChEsS on June 26, 2015, 12:46:27 PM
Quote from: valkorum on June 26, 2015, 12:42:31 PM
Cleveland to pick Tyus Jones but send him to Minnesota for Picks 31 & 36
edit: Also, potentially a future 1st rounder to Cavs as well
good move by Cavs, increase depth
Apparently Cavs trying to package up those 2 picks now
Also the future pick is a 2nd rounder from 2019 (not a future 1st rounder)
always international :D Nicola Milutinov
Quote from: RiOtChEsS on June 26, 2015, 12:52:32 PM
always international :D Nicola Milutinov
Will prob stash away in Europe
Quote from: valkorum on June 26, 2015, 12:52:04 PM
Quote from: RiOtChEsS on June 26, 2015, 12:46:27 PM
Quote from: valkorum on June 26, 2015, 12:42:31 PM
Cleveland to pick Tyus Jones but send him to Minnesota for Picks 31 & 36
edit: Also, potentially a future 1st rounder to Cavs as well
good move by Cavs, increase depth
Apparently Cavs trying to package up those 2 picks now
Also the future pick is a 2nd rounder from 2019 (not a future 1st rounder)
??? w0w what r they up to
Quote from: valkorum on June 26, 2015, 12:53:35 PM
Quote from: RiOtChEsS on June 26, 2015, 12:52:32 PM
always international :D Nicola Milutinov
Will prob stash away in Europe
yeah cap space for Aldridge allegedly
If the Spurs are going for Aldridge then it makes sense to draft & stash
Boston on the clock and likely to pick RJ Hunter
Quote from: valkorum on June 26, 2015, 01:04:24 PM
Boston on the clock and likely to pick RJ Hunter
Yep, its official
RJ Hunter for the C's is a decent value pick, he slid a bit
Quote from: valkorum on June 26, 2015, 12:58:59 PM
If the Spurs are going for Aldridge then it makes sense to draft & stash
home state is Texas an rumored to wanna head home
i dont think Jayman is gonna be disappointed, not elated either
id say we r gonna go a project big at 40
Quote from: RiOtChEsS on June 26, 2015, 01:07:00 PM
i dont think Jayman is gonna be disappointed, not elated either
He would be happy with Hunter as their 2nd pick.... unless a deal gets done involving one of the guards I think he is gonna be pretty upset with their 1st pick
Quote from: valkorum on June 26, 2015, 01:10:56 PM
Quote from: RiOtChEsS on June 26, 2015, 01:07:00 PM
i dont think Jayman is gonna be disappointed, not elated either
He would be happy with Hunter as their 2nd pick.... unless a deal gets done involving one of the guards I think he is gonna be pretty upset with their 1st pick
yeah that is a noodle scratcher atm
Quote from: RiOtChEsS on June 26, 2015, 01:09:20 PM
id say we r gonna go a project big at 40
if Looney keeps sliding tho :-X
Looney going to GSW at 30 - Woj just tweeted
Quote from: valkorum on June 26, 2015, 01:10:56 PM
Quote from: RiOtChEsS on June 26, 2015, 01:07:00 PM
i dont think Jayman is gonna be disappointed, not elated either
He would be happy with Hunter as their 2nd pick.... unless a deal gets done involving one of the guards I think he is gonna be pretty upset with their 1st pick
do u think maybe they had all their eggs in the WCS basket and trading with Charlotte, once the Kings swooped they didnt want to move up and couldnt find value moving back
Quote from: valkorum on June 26, 2015, 01:14:36 PM
Looney going to GSW at 30 - Woj just tweeted
great value for them
Quote from: RiOtChEsS on June 26, 2015, 01:15:42 PM
Quote from: valkorum on June 26, 2015, 01:14:36 PM
Looney going to GSW at 30 - Woj just tweeted
great value for them
Maybe not....
According to an NBA executive, Kevon Looney was red-flagged with a degenerative back as well as a hip issue. May require surgery down the road
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Looney going to GSW at 30 - Woj just tweeted
great value for them
Maybe not....
According to an NBA executive, Kevon Looney was red-flagged with a degenerative back as well as a hip issue. May require surgery down the road
yikes :-\
Cavs r on a cash stash mission with that traded pick, possibly similar pick with 36
Apparently Ty Lawson has a video of him smoking a hookah watching the draft. When he say Mudiay drafted at 7 he says
"Thats it, looks like I am going to Sacramento"
Quote from: valkorum on June 26, 2015, 01:32:02 PM
Apparently Ty Lawson has a video of him smoking a hookah watching the draft. When he say Mudiay drafted at 7 he says
"Thats it, looks like I am going to Sacramento"
wait what who was smokin a hookah :o
Jayman would be happy with Mickey, solid dude, low post game, blocks shots
Willy Hernangomez to the 76rs :-\
Christmas to the Cavs
Quote from: RiOtChEsS on June 26, 2015, 01:36:29 PM
Quote from: valkorum on June 26, 2015, 01:32:02 PM
Apparently Ty Lawson has a video of him smoking a hookah watching the draft. When he say Mudiay drafted at 7 he says
"Thats it, looks like I am going to Sacramento"
wait what who was smokin a hookah :o
Jayman would be happy with Mickey, solid dude, low post game, blocks shots
Definitely Ty Lawson - I have seen the image but cant load the video at work.
A little small for a genuine block shot / rim protector but still very good at that pick
Quote from: RiOtChEsS on June 26, 2015, 01:38:27 PM
Willy Hernangomez to the 76rs :-\
76'ers drafting 2 x C's - a little weird
hopefully Dakari Johnson to the Heat at 40, monster and 19
Quote from: valkorum on June 26, 2015, 01:43:48 PM
Quote from: RiOtChEsS on June 26, 2015, 01:36:29 PM
Quote from: valkorum on June 26, 2015, 01:32:02 PM
Apparently Ty Lawson has a video of him smoking a hookah watching the draft. When he say Mudiay drafted at 7 he says
"Thats it, looks like I am going to Sacramento"
wait what who was smokin a hookah :o
Jayman would be happy with Mickey, solid dude, low post game, blocks shots
Definitely Ty Lawson - I have seen the image but cant load the video at work.
A little small for a genuine block shot / rim protector but still very good at that pick
Quote from: RiOtChEsS on June 26, 2015, 01:38:27 PM
Willy Hernangomez to the 76rs :-\
76'ers drafting 2 x C's - a little weird
oh w0w maybe thats what George Karl likes about him ;D hookah brothers :P
Quote from: RiOtChEsS on June 26, 2015, 01:47:37 PM
Quote from: valkorum on June 26, 2015, 01:43:48 PM
Quote from: RiOtChEsS on June 26, 2015, 01:36:29 PM
Quote from: valkorum on June 26, 2015, 01:32:02 PM
Apparently Ty Lawson has a video of him smoking a hookah watching the draft. When he say Mudiay drafted at 7 he says
"Thats it, looks like I am going to Sacramento"
wait what who was smokin a hookah :o
Jayman would be happy with Mickey, solid dude, low post game, blocks shots
Definitely Ty Lawson - I have seen the image but cant load the video at work.
A little small for a genuine block shot / rim protector but still very good at that pick
Quote from: RiOtChEsS on June 26, 2015, 01:38:27 PM
Willy Hernangomez to the 76rs :-\
76'ers drafting 2 x C's - a little weird
oh w0w maybe thats what George Karl likes about him ;D hookah brothers :P
http://blogs.denverpost.com/nuggets/2015/06/25/watch-ty-lawson-smokes-hookah-while-watching-draft-says-im-going-to-sacramento/13040/
Josh Richardson :-\ dunno a thing about him
Celtics got a new Marcus Thornton :D
damn 76rs took another big :o
Plumlee and RHJ go to Portland for Steve Blake and Pat Connaughton
Quote from: RiOtChEsS on June 26, 2015, 02:10:53 PM
Plumlee and RHJ go to Portland for Steve Blake and Pat Connaughton
You think they are going to Aldridge.... pick up Batum in a trade and now Plumlee
Best name in the draft
Sir'Dominic Pointer
Heat got an absolute steal in Justise! Thought he was gonna be going to NYK if none of the big three slid.
Quote from: Toga on June 26, 2015, 02:43:01 PM
Heat got an absolute steal in Justise! Thought he was gonna be going to NYK if none of the big three slid.
yeah we did 8)
http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2506797-justise-winslow-to-heat-twitter-reacts-as-sf-is-selected-in-2015-nba-draft
Quote from: valkorum on June 26, 2015, 02:17:48 PM
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Plumlee and RHJ go to Portland for Steve Blake and Pat Connaughton
You think they are going to Aldridge.... pick up Batum in a trade and now Plumlee
http://www.sbnation.com/nba/2015/6/25/8849653/mason-plumlee-trade-blazers-nets-ronae-hollis-jefferson
Maybe I don't know this sport or something (that's probably it tbh), but why were four Kentucky players taken at picks 1, 6, 12, and 13 (plus 44 and 48) while two Badgers in Frankie and Dek were only taken at 9 and 18, despite the fact that we absolutely blew them the flower out in that big tournament?
Only college to have players drafted in the first 15 picks of the NFL and NBA drafts tho :D
Guess I gotta start going for Charlotte and Houston for Frank the Tank and Sammy
Probably because individually they are better (or lower risk) players.... :P
Quote from: Bane on June 26, 2015, 03:26:20 PM
Maybe I don't know this sport or something (that's probably it tbh), but why were four Kentucky players taken at picks 1, 6, 12, and 13 (plus 44 and 48) while two Badgers in Frankie and Dek were only taken at 9 and 18, despite the fact that we absolutely blew them the flower out in that big tournament?
Only college to have players drafted in the first 15 picks of the NFL and NBA drafts tho :D
Guess I gotta start going for Charlotte and Houston for Frank the Tank and Sammy
Not sure if you know much about college basketball but the teams that are successful in the championship play team basketball and a built to play as a team. Kentucky had raw talent that had been shown previously like in High School. When it come to winning 38 games in a row along the way players had off night. Guys like Towns, Lyles, Booker all won games for Kentucky which proved they were big time players
As a Phoenix Suns supporter I am very happy with the pick up of Booker 8)
I think he could of easily been a top 10 pick so happy with him :)
Let's hope we don't do any bad trades :-X
Quote from: Money Shot on June 26, 2015, 04:35:03 PM
As a Phoenix Suns supporter I am very happy with the pick up of Booker 8)
I think he could of easily been a top 10 pick so happy with him :)
Let's hope we don't do any bad trades :-X
agreed Booker was who i wanted the Heat to take until amazingly Winslow fell in our lap, Booker is an all round talent
Quote from: Money Shot on June 26, 2015, 04:35:03 PM
As a Phoenix Suns supporter I am very happy with the pick up of Booker 8)
I think he could of easily been a top 10 pick so happy with him :)
Let's hope we don't do any bad trades :-X
At pick 13 you cant complain about picking up Booker
Quote from: valkorum on June 26, 2015, 10:36:38 AM
Jayman's gonna be upset - he wanted Boston to trade up to get Willie Cauley-Stein
Yep. I just wanted to trade up, we have so many assets, I'd rather cash a few of them in for a potential all-star rather than just average players. We have enough of them. WCS to the Kings is interesting to me, not perfect fit but probably best player available. Needs to work on that jumper so he can play with Cousins.
Quote from: valkorum on June 26, 2015, 10:42:04 AM
Marc Stein just tweeted that Celtics and Hornets are discussing a deal
Boston gives pick 16 & 28 for pick 9
I wish. And the Hornets should have took that. Taking Kaminski at 9 was the worst selection of the draft imo. They already have bigs who can't defend (Jefferson, Zeller, Hawes). I just can't understand how they think Kamisky fits in well. A reach if I have ever seen one tbh.
Quote from: valkorum on June 26, 2015, 11:52:26 AM
Quote from: RiOtChEsS on June 26, 2015, 11:45:37 AM
Terry Rozier ???
3 PG's on the roster now with Smart, Thomas and now Rozier - this pick doesnt make sense to me???
Shocking decision. I'm not saying that Rozier will be a terrible player, although I haven't watched enough of him to have an informed opinion, I would have definitely preferred Dekker. And Rozier was going in the 2nd rounds in many mock drafts, so why not at least trade down and pick him up later whilst grabbing extra assets. It's the type of thing Boston usually do, but today, we blinked. Also makes you realise how valuable tanking is, compared to scraping into the playoffs and getting a mediocre pick.
Quote from: valkorum on June 26, 2015, 01:10:56 PM
Quote from: RiOtChEsS on June 26, 2015, 01:07:00 PM
i dont think Jayman is gonna be disappointed, not elated either
He would be happy with Hunter as their 2nd pick.... unless a deal gets done involving one of the guards I think he is gonna be pretty upset with their 1st pick
Exactly right. I prefer Hunter to Rozier, irrelevant of where they were drafted. I thought Hunter could go in the lottery.
This is why when you were celebrating each win I was saying its bad as should have tanked properly.
Big free agency might save you with the Boston name
Quote from: Holz on June 26, 2015, 06:34:50 PM
This is why when you were celebrating each win I was saying its bad as should have tanked properly.
Big free agency might save you with the Boston name
It was a fun season, just comes at a cost later on - which is silly that you penalise teams for trying to win.
Quote from: R.Griffen on June 26, 2015, 03:56:05 PM
Quote from: Bane on June 26, 2015, 03:26:20 PM
Maybe I don't know this sport or something (that's probably it tbh), but why were four Kentucky players taken at picks 1, 6, 12, and 13 (plus 44 and 48) while two Badgers in Frankie and Dek were only taken at 9 and 18, despite the fact that we absolutely blew them the flower out in that big tournament?
Only college to have players drafted in the first 15 picks of the NFL and NBA drafts tho :D
Guess I gotta start going for Charlotte and Houston for Frank the Tank and Sammy
Not sure if you know much about college basketball but the teams that are successful in the championship play team basketball and a built to play as a team. Kentucky had raw talent that had been shown previously like in High School. When it come to winning 38 games in a row along the way players had off night. Guys like Towns, Lyles, Booker all won games for Kentucky which proved they were big time players
Frankie and Dek were our best players by a country mile last season - Gasser, Koenig, and Hayes were alright but not necessities. They won games all season for us, especially late on - yes, including against cowucky.
Quote from: Bane on June 26, 2015, 06:55:24 PM
Quote from: R.Griffen on June 26, 2015, 03:56:05 PM
Quote from: Bane on June 26, 2015, 03:26:20 PM
Maybe I don't know this sport or something (that's probably it tbh), but why were four Kentucky players taken at picks 1, 6, 12, and 13 (plus 44 and 48) while two Badgers in Frankie and Dek were only taken at 9 and 18, despite the fact that we absolutely blew them the flower out in that big tournament?
Only college to have players drafted in the first 15 picks of the NFL and NBA drafts tho :D
Guess I gotta start going for Charlotte and Houston for Frank the Tank and Sammy
Not sure if you know much about college basketball but the teams that are successful in the championship play team basketball and a built to play as a team. Kentucky had raw talent that had been shown previously like in High School. When it come to winning 38 games in a row along the way players had off night. Guys like Towns, Lyles, Booker all won games for Kentucky which proved they were big time players
Frankie and Dek were our best players by a country mile last season - Gasser, Koenig, and Hayes were alright but not necessities. They won games all season for us, especially late on - yes, including against cowucky.
Helps being 22 years old going up against Freshman, which is why Kaminsky was drafted way too high. Had a great season in college but not enough upside to be a high pick in the NBA. Dekker I like, was great value for Houston.
Quote from: valkorum on June 26, 2015, 04:53:50 PM
Quote from: Money Shot on June 26, 2015, 04:35:03 PM
As a Phoenix Suns supporter I am very happy with the pick up of Booker 8)
I think he could of easily been a top 10 pick so happy with him :)
Let's hope we don't do any bad trades :-X
At pick 13 you cant complain about picking up Booker
can I complain about pick 13?? ;)
Quote from: j959 on June 26, 2015, 07:46:50 PM
Quote from: valkorum on June 26, 2015, 04:53:50 PM
Quote from: Money Shot on June 26, 2015, 04:35:03 PM
As a Phoenix Suns supporter I am very happy with the pick up of Booker 8)
I think he could of easily been a top 10 pick so happy with him :)
Let's hope we don't do any bad trades :-X
At pick 13 you cant complain about picking up Booker
can I complain about pick 13?? ;)
Booker was definitely the best player in that bracket of picks, Knight, Bledsoe, Booker is a wicked first 3
Quote from: Jayman on June 26, 2015, 07:07:40 PM
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Maybe I don't know this sport or something (that's probably it tbh), but why were four Kentucky players taken at picks 1, 6, 12, and 13 (plus 44 and 48) while two Badgers in Frankie and Dek were only taken at 9 and 18, despite the fact that we absolutely blew them the flower out in that big tournament?
Only college to have players drafted in the first 15 picks of the NFL and NBA drafts tho :D
Guess I gotta start going for Charlotte and Houston for Frank the Tank and Sammy
Not sure if you know much about college basketball but the teams that are successful in the championship play team basketball and a built to play as a team. Kentucky had raw talent that had been shown previously like in High School. When it come to winning 38 games in a row along the way players had off night. Guys like Towns, Lyles, Booker all won games for Kentucky which proved they were big time players
Frankie and Dek were our best players by a country mile last season - Gasser, Koenig, and Hayes were alright but not necessities. They won games all season for us, especially late on - yes, including against cowucky.
Helps being 22 years old going up against Freshman, which is why Kaminsky was drafted way too high. Had a great season in college but not enough upside to be a high pick in the NBA. Dekker I like, was great value for Houston.
"m-m-muh upside"
Upside is a complete bullshower term used by coaches/media/whoever to be bias towards a certain player for
whatever reasons and agendas they may have. Production will always be superior to "upside", assuming the players play at the same level. Should a player lack production, or even the required, technical skill for a position, the media will attempt to compensate by generously promoting their upside.
For example (to use a sport I'm more familiar with), Clowney went #1 in last year's NFL draft because of his "incredible" upside. He had 3 (three) sacks in his junior (final) year of college, but was hyped to the skies because of said upside. The same also contributed to him being a 5-star recruit out of high school. This was exposed, with just 7 tackles and no sacks in his first year in the NFL. But, of course, he'll continue to get opportunities and $$$ because of his "upside".
Also, being older = instant impact at a pro level.
A few of my thoughts on the draft
1. The two best value picks were Winslow, and Mudiay. Not sure how Miami managed to have Dragic, Wade, Deng, Bosh, Whiteside all on the roster last season, and then still manage to add Justise Winslow too, a kid who most had in the top 7. Pat Riley continues to work his magic. Mudiay was a top 5 prospect, can do everything at a well above average level except for shoot. But his shot isn't broken, with a bit of development he could get there. It will be interesting to see where Lawson goes now.
2. The worst value pick by a long way was Frank Kaminsky. I like his game, but #9 is a massive reach - from what I heard he would have slipped to mid-late teens if Charlotte hadn't taken him. Charlotte already having Zeller, Hawes and Jefferson just mean this isn't a good fit. I can't see him being that much better than Olynyk at NBA level.
3. I've been firmly on the Russell > Okafor bandwagon for a while now. The Lakers made the right move. I think he can fit next to Kobe, and Randle + Okafor together would have just been disaster defensively and floor spacing wise. #TrustTheProcess continued for Philly, they took the best talent available. Yawn. Whenever they realise they need to move on from either Noel or Embiid, Boston will be here :)
4. Valk, do the Kings think WCS and Cousins can play next to each other, or is this pick just insurance for when/if Cousins is moved?
5. The Knicks fans booing Porzingis were pathetic. We all knew there was a clear drop off after the top 3, and they took the guy with the greatest upside after those guys. Can't knock them for that.
6. Does anyone have any info as to why Cliff Alexander didn't get drafted? He was a high lottery guy this time last year.
7. Why did Milwaukee give up a first round pick for Vasquez? I'd want to gain a first rounder just for taking on the contract. He's a fine back-up PG but that's all he is.
8. The Blazers acquiring Vonleh a couple of days ago, and Plumlee today, all but assures me that Aldridge is leaving. Hear that the Spurs are his #1 destination, followed by Lakers.
9. Of course Looney falls all the way to the Warriors at #30.. High potential guy with great athleticism. Presume he'll be packaged to try and dump the David Lee contract though.
10. So Atlanta acquired Tim Hardaway - I kinda like it. They don't have too many options to improve if they bring the band back so bolstering the depth is a good idea. Could flourish in the Hawks' offensive system.
Quote from: Jayman on June 26, 2015, 05:53:14 PM
Yep. I just wanted to trade up, we have so many assets, I'd rather cash a few of them in for a potential all-star rather than just average players. We have enough of them. WCS to the Kings is interesting to me, not perfect fit but probably best player available. Needs to work on that jumper so he can play with Cousins.
Check out this video of his workout with the Kings - he can shoot, he just didnt need to on that Kentucky team.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RdPrggejbwQ
Quote from: Jayman on June 26, 2015, 09:13:55 PM
4. Valk, do the Kings think WCS and Cousins can play next to each other, or is this pick just insurance for when/if Cousins is moved?
C: WCS
PF: DMC
SF: Gay
SG: McLemore
PG: Collison
That definitely works in my books. WCS is very athletic and can spread the floor (he can actually shoot) and is great defensively.
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Quote from: Jayman on June 26, 2015, 05:53:14 PM
Yep. I just wanted to trade up, we have so many assets, I'd rather cash a few of them in for a potential all-star rather than just average players. We have enough of them. WCS to the Kings is interesting to me, not perfect fit but probably best player available. Needs to work on that jumper so he can play with Cousins.
Check out this video of his workout with the Kings - he can shoot, he just didnt need to on that Kentucky team.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RdPrggejbwQ
Yeah I heard he was hitting 10-15 footers in workouts, but I don't know if that means he'll be able to shoot at NBA level. Remember that studies have shown that FT% in college is the best translation of shooting into the NBA, and he was only 50-something from the line. I'm excited to watch the pairing, and I think WCS was
arguably best player available. Him or Mudiay.
Quote from: Jayman on June 26, 2015, 09:13:55 PM
A few of my thoughts on the draft
6. Does anyone have any info as to why Cliff Alexander didn't get drafted? He was a high lottery guy this time last year.
Alexander had been dealing with eligibility issues as the NCAA investigates his mother's connection to a loan firm. He also had other issues prior to this one was his grade from memory. When he played he didn't set the world on fire like most expected. I did expect him to be picked up very late. Wasn't a huge shock to me and a few others who followed him closely when he didn't get picked up. From high school though the kid can play it has just set him back a year or 2. If he goes overseas like some are expecting he will be back for 2016/2017.
For a guy to be top 10 pick this time last year and then not make the draft is very strange though
I might as well put my thoughts on the draft
1. Normally I like the guy who plays on the big teams and performers big in College, that being Okafor. However normally a number 2 pick in the draft would like a big who can impact the game right away. But that in mind LA are after bigs via trade and FA meaning they needed to replace the Kobe spot and Russell to me was the obvious choice for LA. I do think Okafor is better but the situation LA are in I would have taken Russell also.
2. Mudiay and Winslow did slide not guys who I would have expected to either. However once Winslow wasn't taken by Kings it was clear to me that Heat was going to land him as teams such as Charlotte was paying overs for players. But another one to also slide a touch was Harrell. Second round was very surprising the guy plays with energy night in night out. He improved his long range shot slightly but also has the ability to come up big on the board. This could be a Draymond Green type of development. Give him game time and he should improve greatly.
3. I wasn't a fan of Porzingis but he was the best player available same as Jay not sure why the booing was so bad. Not sure if Knicks is the type of team that Porzingis will improve greatly under but the ability is there. Gotta wait to see who the Knicks can add before I know his role for the season. Ball in hand for this guy is the key imo, however with Anthony how much shooting and touches of the ball will he get?
4. Seems to me in AFL, NBA, NHL not too sure about NFL but in the draft the good teams seem to get better and better through the draft. If Looney pick is not to sweeten the Lee deal he is a steal. State needed a power forward with Lee going out as some security. Need to see what trades are put in place and contract movements to see how deep on the bench he lines up at state or if he even is at State.
5. Stanley Johnson seems like the odd pick to everyone but apparently they had been after their man and knew he wasn't going before them so if that is what you wanted you got him. I like the upside in Johnson plays the corner 3 but will step inside with pace and get to the basket. Rumours are rumours so I won't even mention it. While this guy comes on to get the bench some minutes I can see him lighting up against smaller line ups or just poor defenders.
6. 76s. Okafor good pick goes with their rules of drafting but to me and Chris Ford and a lot of others was it thrown out of the window when selecting later picks. A PG is needed at the club. The PG doesn't even need shooting ability just someone to dribble and pass. Not point having depth when the starter is also a depth player. Should have packaged up those picks plus whatever is sitting at the bottom of the barrel to find a half decent PG or SG. Going to be a long season if Embiid is gone again.
7. Nothing special but Boston looking up playing it safe looking for upside but also instant inpact. They drafted well from what picks they had.
8. Thought I'd add my input on Towns can't go wrong with the upside or what he has shown. Just don't like the fact even though Kentucky was a super team that a guy can play 21 minutes per game and be the best player in the draft doesn't make sense to me but that's the NBA for you
9. Wasn't going to cover trades since Jay did that but WTF Vasquez! I am a fan one of my favourite players but I wouldn't even give up that much on 2k. A guy who has reached max potential why wouldn't you just hold and draft a young player to develop you never know. But with Vasquez he isn't going to be the next superstar.
10. Something teams are looking for is instant impact year after year, 2013/14 college season in Kentucky and their dream run Aaron Harrison hit 3 consecutive buzzer beaters the best I've seen nearly and won his team tournament matches doesn't get drafted. I dont care that he can't shoot it well very often but even this year he hit big shots when it was needed. His minutes on court in NBA would be better than throw away minutes to second or third string SG on most occasions
Wow! Not taking that deal could be the worst decision Charlotte have ever made.. 4 first round picks and they'd rather take. Kaminsky? I'm glad that Boston were making a huge play to move up, just a pity there wasn't a reasonable side on the other end of the phone.
QuoteThe Celtics made a strong final push to multiple teams in spots 4-9 on draft day. It culminated with an all-in effort in attempt to get Charlotte to deliver the No. 9 pick with Boston lusting for Duke forward Justise Winslow (the same player it coveted while trying to shuffle higher).
According to sources, the Celtics' final offer to the Hornets was a package featuring as many as six draft picks, including four potential first-round selections (a combination of picks from this draft and in the future). But the Hornets could not be swayed and turned down multiple offers to select Wisconsin center Frank Kaminsky.
Quote from: Jayman on June 27, 2015, 09:02:32 AM
Wow! Not taking that deal could be the worst decision Charlotte have ever made.. 4 first round picks and they'd rather take. Kaminsky? I'm glad that Boston were making a huge play to move up, just a pity there wasn't a reasonable side on the other end of the phone.
QuoteThe Celtics made a strong final push to multiple teams in spots 4-9 on draft day. It culminated with an all-in effort in attempt to get Charlotte to deliver the No. 9 pick with Boston lusting for Duke forward Justise Winslow (the same player it coveted while trying to shuffle higher).
According to sources, the Celtics' final offer to the Hornets was a package featuring as many as six draft picks, including four potential first-round selections (a combination of picks from this draft and in the future). But the Hornets could not be swayed and turned down multiple offers to select Wisconsin center Frank Kaminsky.
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dafuq is wrong with Charlotte, all those picks and took Frank instead ???
Quote from: Bane on June 26, 2015, 08:37:32 PM
For example (to use a sport I'm more familiar with), Clowney went #1 in last year's NFL draft because of his "incredible" upside. He had 3 (three) sacks in his junior (final) year of college, but was hyped to the skies because of said upside. The same also contributed to him being a 5-star recruit out of high school. This was exposed, with just 7 tackles and no sacks in his first year in the NFL. But, of course, he'll continue to get opportunities and $$$ because of his "upside".
Also, being older = instant impact at a pro level.
You mean the guy that tore his meniscus in the first game he played and struggled with injury all year to only play 4 games and go on IR?
Anyone seen this:
https://youtu.be/HsvaQR9hKDI
Haha that is great.
Quote from: Mat0369 on June 27, 2015, 03:30:39 PM
Quote from: Bane on June 26, 2015, 08:37:32 PM
For example (to use a sport I'm more familiar with), Clowney went #1 in last year's NFL draft because of his "incredible" upside. He had 3 (three) sacks in his junior (final) year of college, but was hyped to the skies because of said upside. The same also contributed to him being a 5-star recruit out of high school. This was exposed, with just 7 tackles and no sacks in his first year in the NFL. But, of course, he'll continue to get opportunities and $$$ because of his "upside".
Also, being older = instant impact at a pro level.
You mean the guy that tore his meniscus in the first game he played and struggled with injury all year to only play 4 games and go on IR?
Let me say it again
0 (ZERO) sacks in the NFL
3 (THREE) sacks in his junior year of college
Had they taken Mack they would've made the playoffs for sure (actually, swap their draft with the raiders and taken Carr they would've gone like 11-5 haha) - instead they got a guy who made no impact at all and regressed even further behind what you'd want from a number one pick. Sure is looking like another Courtney Brown
Quote from: Bane on June 28, 2015, 12:32:44 AM
Quote from: Mat0369 on June 27, 2015, 03:30:39 PM
Quote from: Bane on June 26, 2015, 08:37:32 PM
For example (to use a sport I'm more familiar with), Clowney went #1 in last year's NFL draft because of his "incredible" upside. He had 3 (three) sacks in his junior (final) year of college, but was hyped to the skies because of said upside. The same also contributed to him being a 5-star recruit out of high school. This was exposed, with just 7 tackles and no sacks in his first year in the NFL. But, of course, he'll continue to get opportunities and $$$ because of his "upside".
Also, being older = instant impact at a pro level.
You mean the guy that tore his meniscus in the first game he played and struggled with injury all year to only play 4 games and go on IR?
Let me say it again
0 (ZERO) sacks in the NFL
3 (THREE) sacks in his junior year of college
Had they taken Mack they would've made the playoffs for sure (actually, swap their draft with the raiders and taken Carr they would've gone like 11-5 haha) - instead they got a guy who made no impact at all and regressed even further behind what you'd want from a number one pick. Sure is looking like another Courtney Brown
Potential the word is potential, upside is a buzz word
Quote from: Bane on June 28, 2015, 12:32:44 AM
Let me say it again
0 (ZERO) sacks in the NFL
3 (THREE) sacks in his junior year of college
Had they taken Mack they would've made the playoffs for sure (actually, swap their draft with the raiders and taken Carr they would've gone like 11-5 haha) - instead they got a guy who made no impact at all and regressed even further behind what you'd want from a number one pick. Sure is looking like another Courtney Brown
And you can't judge a guys season when he was injured from the very first game, that is just stupid. If he was healthy the entire season fair enough, but he wasn't.
Looking forward to seeing which draftees make it to our shores for the upcoming NBL season! May decide if I keep my Wildcats membership or not!
Quote from: jvalles69 on June 29, 2015, 12:31:57 PM
Looking forward to seeing which draftees make it to our shores for the upcoming NBL season! May decide if I keep my Wildcats membership or not!
SATNAM SINGH would be nice
Quote from: valkorum on June 29, 2015, 01:52:10 PM
Quote from: jvalles69 on June 29, 2015, 12:31:57 PM
Looking forward to seeing which draftees make it to our shores for the upcoming NBL season! May decide if I keep my Wildcats membership or not!
SATNAM SINGH would be nice
Ennis was a sweet pick up, Daniels was a bit of a bust, but he was pretty young so i think we were asking a bit much of him to take on such a big load. Don't think his coordination had caught up to his length, a mate described him as "looking like a newborn lamb", lol!
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Quote from: Jayman on June 29, 2015, 05:05:15 PM
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any twitter reaction to that clip?? ;)
Unedited clip ;)
https://vine.co/v/eJXEQBMTxzL
Haha amazing how different camera angles can make such a big difference! Looks much better :P
yeah that was considerably more careful