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Welcome to the 2013 Pre-Season Trade Thread. Please note the special rules that relate to the 2013 PRE-SEASON Only!
CHAT CLIENT TO USE FOR FF MEMBERS DURING TRADE WINDOWS TO DISCUSS TRADES: http://www.ffelitechat.webs.com/
* If you need any info or help getting onto the chat ask almost any coach on FF will be able to walk you through it very simple.TRADINGThere will be two trade periods in each season.Post Season.AN AGREED TIME AFTER COMPLETION OF THE SEASON BEFORE THE NATIONAL DRAFT OF THE FOLLOWING SEASON
2 Week window to trade players, draft picks. Subject to extension on application by majority of teams.
MAXIMUM NUMBER OF LIST CHANGES = 4
A team must trade the same number of players in and out i.e 1 for 1 , 2 for 2.... ect. ect...
A team may trade a player and a draft pick swap for a player and a draft pick swap
( e.g Boyd and pick 14 for Swallow and pick 2)
Pre Season.
AN AGREED TIME AFTER THE PRESEASON/ROOKIE DRAFT PRIOR TO THE START OF THE SEASON
2 Week window to trade players only.
MAXIMUM NUMBER OF LIST CHANGES = 4
A team must trade the same number of players in and out i.e 1 for 1 , 2 for 2.... ect. ect...
*IMPORTANT NOTES ON LIST MANAGEMENTS DURING TRADES ( TRADE WINDOW #2 AND ALL FUTURE SEASONS)** You may trade a rookie listed player for another teams senior listed player, or visa versa. BUT
- The player you trade in MUST go onto the same list that the player you traded out was on (senior or rookie) TRADE BLOCKING / APPROVAL: ALL TRADES ARE TO BE SUBMITTED TO LEAGUE ADMINISTRATOR FOR APPROVAL.All trades agreed upon are to be PM'ed to League administrator (Colliwobblers) by BOTH parties, for approval.
Trades approved will be posted below in Trades Approved and reflected in Draft Thread under final list lodgment.
All draft picks traded will be reflected in the updated draft picks post below as well as on the Trades Thread.
PROPOSED AND APPROVED TRADES LISTING - TRADE PERIOD #1
*TRADE # 1Sri Lanken Strikers gives: Rockliff, Golby + National Draft pick # 51
PNG Headhunters gives: Gaff, Howe + National Draft pick # 21
VERDICT: APPROVED.
Balanced trade in scoring, potential and age, further balanced (Rockliff) by the pick trade.
*TRADE # 2Mongollian Lambs give: Luke Shuey + Trent Mckenzie
Austalian Ales give: Steele Sidebottom + National Draft pick # 36
VERDICT: APPROVED.
Balanced trade in scoring, player potential vs draft pick player potential. Trade slightly favors the Ales, but not enough to block and given the talent in this Nat Draft it should balance out.
*TRADE # 3Hong Kong Dongs give: National draft pick # 16
Tibetan Llamas give: James Kelly
VERDICT: APPROVED.
Trade is balanced James Kelly was a pick 17. James Kelly is already premium and a premium scorer right now, Pick # 16 should become a premium and remain a premium scorer for a lot longer, BUT won't be for a few years yet. The trade is balanced, but was sent back to the coaches based on their lists for further evidence to be provided to me that their lists could support such a trade. Nails was able to show he has talent enough (if just) coming through) and Tbagrocks was able to show he can still field a competitive midfield (if just).
*TRADE # 4Bangladesh Bears give: Dyson Heppell + Jasper Pittard + NAT pick 2 & 50.
Tibetan Llamas give: Paul Duffield + Dustin Martin + NAT pick 23 & 39.
VERDICT: APPROVED.
The trade is balanced, Heppell is equal in age and ability to Martin but Martin will outscore Heppell a little here duel to goal kicking points. Pittard has a big future anywhere as an attacking defender and a high draft pick himself. His youth and potential rate him as a better prospect long term than Duffield who is much, much older. But Duffield is close to premium defender so a worthy trade for Pittard. To further balance the trade A much higher Pick is given up to the side giving up Martin and Duffield - which is appropriate and acts as the final balance.
*TRADE # 5Eskimos give: Priddis, Hartlett and Rookie pick Round 5
Lambs Give: Rhys Palmer, Talyor Hunt, NAT draft pick 6
VERDICT: APPROVED.
Trade favors the Eskinos slightly but that is just an opinion and it is not EXTREMELY uneven and does not provide a HUGE advantage. Pick 6 is a strong balance for Hartlett, Priddis and a nothing rook pick almost equal to Palmer and Hunt.
*TRADE # 6Sri Lankan Strikers Give: National draft picks 21 and 35 + Luke Brown
Tibetan Llamas Give: Pearce Hanley and NAT picks 50 & 55
VERDICT: DENIED.
Trade denied on list and even issues, was not resubmitted for approval. Trade Canceled.
*TRADE # 7Headhunters give: Dale Thomas & Luke Parker + National Pick# 37
Vipers give: Alex Fasolo & Jack Trengove + National Pick# 46
VERDICT: APPROVED.
Trade is deemed to be even.
*TRADE # 8Folders give: NAT draft pick 11
Tigers give: Nathan Foley
VERDICT: APPROVED.
Similar to the previous trade of Kelly and 16, 11 is better than 16, Foley has 2-3 years more in him than Kelly.
Again trade is not EXTREME UNEVEN, and does not give either team a HUGE advantage over other teams.
*TRADE # 9Tigers give: Mark LeCras + NAT pick 26
Crocodiles give: Jack Ziebell + Rookie pick 12
VERDICT: APPROVED.
Trade is deemed to be even.
*TRADE # 10Llamas give: Brad Ebert, Heppell, Nat picks 50, 55, Rookie round 1(7) round 2 (23)
Recieve: Wingard, Trengove, Nat pick 5, 31, 33 Rookie, round 1 (5)
Eskimos give: Wingard, Nat picks 6, 31
Recieve: Brad Ebert, Nat pick 55, Rookie round 1 (7)
Elephants give: Nat picks 17, 33
Recieve: Nat 6, Rookie round 2 (23)
Headhunters give: Jack Trengove, Nat pick 5, Rookie round 1 (5)
Recieve: Heppell, Nat pick 17, 50
VERDICT: APPROVED.
For the complexity of it it is surprisingly even all round, certainly not EXTREME uneven nor does it give any one team a HUGE advantage over the other teams in the competition.
*TRADE # 11Eskimos give: Tory Dickson, NAT pick 47, PSD pick 7
Dolphins give: Daniel Merrett, NAT pick 45, PSD pick 13
VERDICT: APPROVED.
Trade is deemed to be even.
*TRADE # 12UAE TIGERS give: S Wright + Nat Pick #58
TAIWAN DOLPHINS give: X Ellis + Nat Pick #47
VERDICT: APPROVED.
Trade is deemed to be even enough to warrant no further explanation.
*TRADE # 13UAE Tigers give: Issac Smith + Pick 10 (ND)
Vipers give: Jack Steven + Pick 37 (ND)
VERDICT: APPROVED.
Trade is deemed to be even enough to warrant no further explanation.
*TRADE # 14Bangladesh Bears gives: Chris Knights + NAT Pick 18
UAE Tigers gives: NAT Pick 42 + NAT Pick 11
VERDICT: APPROVED.
Trade is deemed to be even enough to warrant no further explanation.
*TRADE # 15Auatralia Ales Give: Steve Johnson, pick 20 and pick 52
Vietnam Vipers Give: Monfries, pick 14 and pick 30
VERDICT: APPROVED.
Trade is deemed to be even enough to warrant no further explanation.
*TRADE # 16Hong Kong gives: Scott D. Thompson + Nat Draft Pick 48
Sri Lanka gives: Scotland + Rookie pick 19
VERDICT: APPROVED.
Trade is deemed to be even enough to warrant no further explanation.
*TRADE # 17Llamas to give: Nat pick 5, rookie pick 71
the Ales give: Nat picks 14, 30
VERDICT: APPROVED.
Trade is deemed to be even.
*TRADE # 18Bangladesh Bears give: Corey Enright + NAT Pick #11
Taiwan Dolphins give: Beau Waters + NAT Pick #58
VERDICT: APPROVED.
Trade deemed to be even.
*TRADE # 19Strikers (Jayman) Gives: NAT pick 35 + NAT Pick 48 + Rook pick 35
Eskimos (Koop) gives: Rhys Palmer + NAT Pick 45 + Rook Pick 15
VERDICT: APPROVED.
Trade deemed to be even.
*TRADE # 20Taiwan Dolphins Give: National Pick # 13 + Rookie Pick # 29
Australian Ales Give: Matt Rosa + Rookie Pick #4
VERDICT: APPROVED.
Trade deemed to be even.
*TRADE # 21Kathmandu Recieve: Shannon Byrnes and NAT pick 56
Bangkok Receive: NAT picks 35 and 48
VERDICT: APPROVED.
Trade deemed to be even.
*TRADE # 22TIGERS - JROO8 gives: Picks Nat 47 + Rookie 42 + Rookie 58
LAMBS - Picker_Man gives: Picks Nat 22 + Rookie 6 + Rookie 86
VERDICT: APPROVED. ( WITH TRADE IN WINDOW #2 TAKEN INTO CONSIDERATION )
*TRADE # 23Bangkok Crabs - Nostradamus gives: Adam Goodes and Dean Cox and Rook pick 88
Turkish Gazelles - Noz gives: Dion Prestia, Jonathan Griffin and Nat pick 41
VERDICT: APPROVED
*TRADE # 24Jroo gives 26nd, 26rook, 102rook
Koop gives 15nd, 13rook, 47 rook
VERDICT: APPROVED ( WITH TRADE IN WINDOW #2 TAKEN INTO CONSIDERATION )
*TRADE # 25Jroo8 gives Picks 37ND, 100R (compo pick), 101R (compo pick)
Maca gives Picks 12ND, 26ND, 44ND
VERDICT: APPROVED ( WITH TRADE IN WINDOW #2 TAKEN INTO CONSIDERATION )
*TRADE # 26Jroo8 gives Rookie 47
BB67 gives Pick 27Nd
VERDICT: APPROVED ( WITH TRADE IN WINDOW #2 TAKEN INTO CONSIDERATION )
REMAINING LIST MOVEMENTSWhatlez = 4
Adamant = 0
Jayman = 0
JbsHawks = 0
Monstrom = 0
Picker_man = 0
Tbagrocks = 0
Nostradamus = 1
Noz = 2
JROO8 = 0
BB67TH = 3
Maca24 = 3
Tor01doc = 0
Colliwobblers = 0
KoopKicka = 0
Nails = 2
UPDATED DRAFT PICKS NATIONAL & ROOKIE/PRE-SEASON POST TRADE PERIOD #1
DRAFTS COMPLETED REFER DRAFT THREAD FOR FINAL PICK LIST AND PICKS
UPDATED LIST LODGMENT POST TRADE PERIOD # 2
FINAL LISTS HERE: http://www.fanfooty.com.au/forum/index.php/topic,70532.0.html
PROPOSED AND APPROVED TRADES LISTING - TRADE PERIOD #2
I will post trades here for people who have come to an agreement to make a trade, but are not making that trade until trade window #2.
These trades are not made yet, they are not approved, and cannot be reflected on team lists. They are nothing more than a gentleman's agreement on a future trade already negotiated and agreed to between the trading teams.
I can give an indication if trades should pass or not but there are no guarantees and nothing is passed until window #2 opens and APPROVED goes underneath the trades.
TRADES IN BOLD ARE ENTERED AND PLAYERS ARE CHANGED ON PLAYER LISTS (THIS THREAD ONLY) AND LIST MOVEMENTS UPDATED.TRADE # 1.Picker_Man Gives: Carrazzo + Burgoyne
Monstrom Gives: Golby + VarcoeTRADE # 2.SRILANKA STRIKERS give: Grigg + Burgoyne
MONGOLIAN LAMBS give: Suckling + GrundyAPPROVEDTRADE # 3.TIGERS - JROO8 gives: Andrew Carrazzo + Ryan O'Keefe
LAMBS - Picker_Man gives: Shaun Higgins + Hamish Hartlett APPROVEDTRADE # 4. Jroo gives Dempster
Koop gives MerrettAPPROVEDTRADE # 5.Jroo8 gives Dylan Grimes
Maca gives Luke TapscottAPPROVEDTRADE # 6.Strikers give: Brodie Grundy + Steven May
Crocodiles give: Shannon Hurn + Levi CasboultAPPROVEDTRADE # 7.Jroo8 gives Daniel Merrett
BB67 gives Caolan MooneyAPPROVEDTRADE # 8.Jayman gives: Mitch Clark
Pickers gives: Shaun GriggAPPROVEDTRADE # 9.JROO8 gives Xavier Ellis
Noz gives Cameron PedersenAPPROVEDTRADE # 11.Bangladesh Bears (Adamant) gives: Shane Savage + Mason Shaw + Luke Hodge
Taiwan Dolphins (tor01doc) gives: Sharrod Wellingham + Trent Dennis-Lane + Alipate CarlileAPPROVEDTRADE # 12.MONGOLIAN LAMBS (picker_man & Toga) give: M.Golby + A.Otten + B.Murdoch
TIBETAN LLAMAS (tbagrocks) give: P.Hanley + S.Darley + A.BostonAPPROVEDTRADE # 13.PNG Headhunters (Monstrum) gives: Chris Mayne and Alex Fasolo
Lao Elephants (Whatlez) gives: David Swallow and Jeff GarlettAPPROVEDTRADE # 14.Picker_Man Gives - S.Selwood + C.Moller
Whatlez Gives - J.Riewoldt + B.StrattonAPPROVEDTRADE # 15.Bangladesh Bears (Adamant) gives: Michael Johnson + Brent Reilly
Manila Folders (BB67th) gives: Jordan Lewis + Ryan CrowleyAPPROVEDTRADE # 16.Manila Folders (BB67th) give: Daniel Nicholson
Lao Elephants (Whatlez) give: Chris MayneAPPROVEDTRADE # 17.UAE Tigers (JROO8) gives Jack Steven + Jake Stringer + Luke Tapscott
Bangcock Crabs (Nostradamus) gives Brent Stanton + Chirs Yarran + Dustin FletcherAPPROVEDTRADE # 18.Nostradamus gives Jarrod Harbrow
JROO8 gives Jesse LonerganAPPROVEDTRADE # 19.Sri Lanka Strikers (Jayman) give: Shaun Grigg, Jeremy Howe, Shannon Hurn
Mongolia Lambs give (Toga) : Steele Sidebottom, Mitch Clarke, Sam DarleyAPPROVEDTRADE # 20.Sri Lanka Strikers (Jayman) give: Andrew Gaff and Luke Brown
Tibet Llamas (Tbagrocks) give: Mitch Golby and Hamish McintoshAPPROVEDTRADE # 21.Vipers Give: Dale Thomas + Johnathon Ceglar
Strikers Give: Hamish Mcintosh + Rhys PalmerAPPROVEDTRADE # 22.Colliwobblers Gives: Jimmy Bartel + Kaiden Brand
Nails Gives: Troy Chaplin + Patrick KarnezisAPPROVEDTRADE # 23.TOGA (Mongolian Lambs) gives: Travis Varcoe
TOR01DOC (Taiwan Dolphins) gives: Luke HodgeAPPROVEDTRADE # 24.JROO8 (UAE Tigers) gives Brent Stanton + Dustin Fletcher + Caloan Mooney
Nails (Hong Kong Dongs) gives Clancee Pearce + Ryan Griffen + Sam BleaseAPPROVEDTRADE # 25.JROO8 gives Stephen Hill + Sam Blease
Colliwobblers give Issac Smith + Liam JonesAPPROVEDTRADE # 26.JROO8 gives Cameron Pedersen + Liam Jones
KoopKicka gives Sean Dempster + Allen Christensen APPROVEDTRADE # 27.JROO8 (Tigers) give Dennis Amrfield
Toga (Lambs) give Luke HodgeAPPROVEDTRADE # 28.Bangladesh Bears (Adamant) gives: David Mundy + Sharrod Wellingham
Turkey Gazelles (Noz) gives: Matthew Boyd + Ryan LesterAPPROVEDTRADE # 29.KoopKicka Gives Chris Masten + Jarryd Blair
JBsHawks Gives Stephen Motlop + Kieran HarperAPPROVEDTRADE # 30.Bangladesh Bears (Adamant) gives: Jordan Lewis + Jared Brennan + Ryan Lester
Taiwan Dolphins (tor01doc) gives: Andrew Walker + Greg Broughton + Mason ShawAPPROVEDTRADE # 31.Lambs (Toga) give: J.Schulz + J.Polec + A.Boston
Eskimos (KoopKicka & Memph) give: B.Lake + N.Bock + T.HuntAPPROVEDTRADE # 32.Lambs (Toga) give: Ben Stratton
Elephants (whatlez) give: Craig MollerAPPROVEDTRADE # 33.Nails Gives: Ben Howlett + Caolon Mooney
KK Gives: Jay Schulz + Shannon ByrnesAPPROVEDTRADE # 34.JROO8 gives Matt Wright + Luke Hodge
JROO8 gets Mitch Robinson + Stephen Hill
Colliwobblers gives Mitch Robinson + Stephen Hill
Colliwobblers gets Matt Wright + Hayden Crozier
Tbagrocks gives Hayden Crozier
Tbagrocks gets Lachie Neale
JBsHawks gives Lachie Neale
JbsHawks gets Luke HodgeAPPROVEDTRADE # 35.Colliwobblers Gives: S.Thompson + S.Johnson + H.Crozier
Picker_Man/Toga Gives : S.Grigg + S.Hurn + J.HoweAPPROVEDTRADE # 36.The Crabs (nost) give Tendai Mzungu + Lewis Stevenson
The Eskimos (koop) give Jared Polec + Steven MotlopAPPROVEDTRADE # 37.JROO8 gives Mitch Robinson
Adamant gives Dusty MartinAPPROVEDTRADE # 38.Ricochet gives Mark LeCras
Colliwobblers gives Luke ParkerAPPROVEDTRADE # 39.Koop Gives: Pendles + Dahlhaus + Cripps
Rico Gives: Cotchin + Lew.Jetta + MayAPPROVEDTRADE # 40.Crocs Give: Eddie Betts
Dolphins Give: Shane SavageAPPROVEDREMAINING LIST MOVEMENTSWhatlez = 1
Adamant = 0
Jayman = 0
JbsHawks = 3
Monstrom = 2
Picker_Man/Toga = 0
Tbagrocks = 1
Nostradamus = 0
Noz = 3
JROO8 = 0
BB67TH = 2
Maca24/Sid = 3
Tor01doc = 0
Colliwobblers = 0
KoopKicka = 0
Nails = 1
UPDATED LIST LODGMENT POST TRADE PERIOD #2
***UPDATE***
Provided the Initial draft is completed and there has been sufficient time for a minimum trade window of 2 weeks the folling will/must apply;
PRE NATIONAL AXVs DRAFT = All clubs must submit to me their final lists (Senior Only at this stage, no plaers can be on Rookie lists.) The lists must reflect all trades. Clubs must also submit to me their draft picks as they stand after trading.
I will have both these things anyway but it is the DUTY of all CLUBS to do this and submit the lists of players and trades to me for cross checking BEFORE WE CAN START THE NEXT DRAFT.
National Draft for AXVs will take place 1 hour after completion of the AFL National Draft. [ 22nd November 2012 ]
Rookie/Pre-Season Draft for AXVs will take place 1 hour following completion of the AFL Rookie Draft. [ 11th December 2012 ]
A trade window of 4 weeks will be opened immediately following completion of the AXVs Rookie/Pre-season draft.
Following this trade period, ALL Clubs will have 4 weeks to submit to me their final list lodgements.
Final Lists will consist of ;
SENIOR LIST = 40 Players.
(36 Players from the Initial Draft and 4 Players from the National draft.)
ROOKIE LIST = 6 Players.
(1 player from the NATIONAL DRAFT and ALL 5 players from the Rookie/Pre-Season draft.)
* In the event you PASS during the National draft and only pick for example 3 players from this draft ( or if you have traded in players during trade period #1 for your National draft picks), then the following applies.
* The players you trade in for your National draft picks ( up to 4 maximum list movements ) Go on your senior list.
* The players you draft first in the rookie pre-season draft where your Senior list is not FULL go onto your senior list first. Then onto your Rookie list.
THE BASIC RULE OF MAKING UP THE LISTS FOR THIS SEASON ARE THIS: PLAYERS GO ONTO YOUR SENIOR LIST AS PER DRAFTED TO YOUR TEAM OR TRADED TO YOUR TEAM ORDER, SO THE FIRST 40 PLAYERS TO JOIN YOUR LIST GO ON YOUR SENIOR LIST, THE LAST 6 PLAYERS TO JOIN YOUR LIST GO ON YOUR ROOKIE LIST.
Any questions let me know, and remember these dates, as the normal drafting time limits will apply so if you are not around you will be skipped, and potentially sacked if you fail to show up at all or have someone representing your club show up to these drafts. Failing to take part in trade windows is regretable but is also fine, failing to lodge your list after the trade periods will have consequences however so again remember the dates!
Just gettin on to stay updated ;)
I will post this now. IF you send me an offer and it contains a player over the age of 24, then you will be added to the hated list to the Elephants.
Trade smart and trade your youngun' ;)
On the Block:
Jack Redden ;)
Taylor Walker ;D
(lol jks)
Whatlez: gun midfeilder jude bolton, for redden?
After a quality forward.
The trade limit rule for the pre-2013 season has been repealed and brought into line with all future seasons.
Please check the rules so you are familiar with what the changes mean.
4 list movements maximum in each window.
One window after initial draft and before national draft.
One window after rookie/preseason draft and before first game.
Draft picks for draft picks trades do not count as list movements.
Any trade that involves a player is a list movement, whether it is a player for a player or a player for a draft pick.
That is basically it. You can agree upon and sign an agreement with a rival team for a trade you want to do if you run out of list movements for trade window #1, but you can't actually make the trade until window #2 if you have already used 4 list movements in window #1.
The decision to keep the limit at 4 in each was made to keep this season in line with all future seasons. And was the chosen setup of coaches in the original vote.
* A note on trading strategies for those who would have liked to make all 8 list movements in window #1.
* You can agree on a trade of player for player if it does not involve a draft pick, have both parties agree to the trade and LODGE THE TRADE WITH ME. Thus the trade is a "promise" for trade window #2.
* This way any trades that can be put off as they don't involve draft picks can be agreed to for TRADE WINDOW #2, and not made in TRADE WINDOW #1, thus not using up list movements in the all important first window.
* Obviously all trades involving draft picks must be made in trade window #1. as all drafts are over before trade window #2 opens.
* Where you trade a player for a draft pick, or a player for a player that = 1 list movement.
*SO IF you are trying to balance out a trade instead of using a player from each team neither really wants as a balance use draft picks from each team as these will not add to your list movements.
For example instead of Ablett + Gumbleton FOR Jack + Gunston - Make it Ablett + pick 60 for Jack + pick 2.
Just an example off the top of my head but you get the idea, that is one list movements instead of throwing other unwanted players into the trade for balance which would make it 2 list movements.
ALL COACHES THE AXVS 2012 TRADE WINDOW # 1. IS NOW OPEN.
This trade window will remain open up until midnight on the 11th of November 2012.
All trade proposals can be posted in this thread and agreed to in this thread for me to confirm or reject, or they can be PM to me by both parties.
If you are waiting on a ruling PM me in case I miss your trade in the thread.
Take note of the list of ALL TEAMS national and rookie/preseason draft picks above, and for your convenience all lists also listed above.
As I approve trades, I will update draft picks and players on lists in this thread immediately.
NOTE: I will NOT be updating lists on the draft thread, that is the lists as drafted.
Any questions let me know.
Ill kick things off then shall i..
Quote from: Jayman on October 01, 2012, 03:05:14 PM
Quote from: monstrum on October 01, 2012, 02:31:56 PM
Quote from: Jayman on October 01, 2012, 02:09:38 PM
In that case:
Rockliff, Golby + 4th round pick FOR Gaff, Howe + 2nd round pick
Alright, if that gets the deal done, lets do it!!
Great :) pleasure doing business with ya
After many discussions we have made a deal...
A MASSIVE DEAL!!!
Sri Lanken Strikers gives: Rockliff, Golby + 4th round pick
PNG Headhunters gives: Gaff, Howe + 2nd round pickAPPROVED
Quote from: monstrum on October 01, 2012, 04:41:27 PM
Ill kick things off then shall i..
Quote from: Jayman on October 01, 2012, 03:05:14 PM
Quote from: monstrum on October 01, 2012, 02:31:56 PM
Quote from: Jayman on October 01, 2012, 02:09:38 PM
In that case:
Rockliff, Golby + 4th round pick FOR Gaff, Howe + 2nd round pick
Alright, if that gets the deal done, lets do it!!
Great :) pleasure doing business with ya
After many discussions we have made a deal...
A MASSIVE DEAL!!!
Sri Lanken Strikers gives: Rockliff, Golby + 4th round pick
PNG Headhunters gives: Gaff, Howe + 2nd round pick
Great even trade guys, will be really good for Mons if Rocky is MID/FWD.
Quote from: Adamant on October 01, 2012, 05:19:18 PM
Quote from: monstrum on October 01, 2012, 04:41:27 PM
Ill kick things off then shall i..
Quote from: Jayman on October 01, 2012, 03:05:14 PM
Quote from: monstrum on October 01, 2012, 02:31:56 PM
Quote from: Jayman on October 01, 2012, 02:09:38 PM
In that case:
Rockliff, Golby + 4th round pick FOR Gaff, Howe + 2nd round pick
Alright, if that gets the deal done, lets do it!!
Great :) pleasure doing business with ya
After many discussions we have made a deal...
A MASSIVE DEAL!!!
Sri Lanken Strikers gives: Rockliff, Golby + 4th round pick
PNG Headhunters gives: Gaff, Howe + 2nd round pick
Great even trade guys, will be really good for Mons if Rocky is MID/FWD.
we think Rocky and Gaff are fairly even. And since we needed a fwd and our backs are strong, Golby or Howe seemed sensible. Will be good to get another young gun with that 2nd rounder also :P
Not counting on it, but yeh eould b s plus
Lol
** would be a plus<--- if rocky was fwd
to any of you looking for a premiership over the next couple of years. We have Heath Scotland up for trade! He is one of the highest scoring defenders in the league...PM me your offers
Thanks
Quote from: Colliwobblers on September 18, 2012, 10:41:34 PM
PROPOSED AND APPROVED TRADES LISTING - TRADE PERIOD #1
*TRADE # 1
Sri Lanken Strikers gives: Rockliff, Golby + National Draft pick # 51
PNG Headhunters gives: Gaff, Howe + National Draft pick # 21
VERDICT: APPROVED. Balanced trade in scoring, potential and age, further balanced (Rockliff) by the pick trade.
Thanks Colli :D congrats to us Mons, we are first on the board!
BANG! :D u beauty, took us a while to agree but turned out pretty fare, i really feel we both got a good deal, cheers jay! And the strikers
BANG!!! I remember in the euros it took like 3 weeks for a trade in it was like Connors for Cale Morton. :P
Probly coz this comp is run by a great mod ;)
Mongollian Lambs give: Luke Shuey + Trent Mckenzie
Austalian Ales give: Steele Sidebottom + Round 3 draft pick
Confirm :)
Quote from: JBs-Hawks on October 01, 2012, 07:44:53 PM
Mongollian Lambs give: Luke Shuey + Trent Mckenzie
Austalian Ales give: Steele Sidebottom + Round 3 draft pick
You realise Shuey only averages 11 less than Sidebum and McKenzie is easily better than rd 3 draft pick?
JB I want Mckenzie >:(
Quote from: Nails on October 01, 2012, 07:47:40 PM
Quote from: JBs-Hawks on October 01, 2012, 07:44:53 PM
Mongollian Lambs give: Luke Shuey + Trent Mckenzie
Austalian Ales give: Steele Sidebottom + Round 3 draft pick
You realise Shuey only averages 11 less than Sidebum and McKenzie is easily better than rd 3 draft pick?
I have another premium eagle being traded in 3 was to many and sidebum is a gun. mckenzie is an ave mid plenty of them come from pick 30+ in nat.....
Happy trading everyone PM ME DOME OFFERS!!
Quote from: JBs-Hawks on October 01, 2012, 07:44:53 PM
Mongollian Lambs give: Luke Shuey + Trent Mckenzie
Austalian Ales give: Steele Sidebottom + Round 3 draft pick
APPROVEDas with all trades reasoning will be on the main thread post wit the list of trades. I will get this one up there shortly and also change the lists to reflect trade #1 and this trade #2 as well as the pick lists.
CLARIFY WHETHER PICKS ARE NATIONAL OR ROOKIE, OR I ASSUME NATIONAL
I doubt you will be getting Redden anymore Pickers ;D
Wow everyone trading already. I don't know why everyone trades so early when we have just finished drafting. Shows that you didn't draft a good side IMO.
Quote from: BB67th on October 01, 2012, 08:55:53 PM
Wow everyone trading already. I don't know why everyone trades so early when we have just finished drafting. Shows that you didn't draft a good side IMO.
Or that you want to make a sure thing a super sure thing.
Quote from: BB67th on October 01, 2012, 08:55:53 PM
Wow everyone trading already. I don't know why everyone trades so early when we have just finished drafting. Shows that you didn't draft a good side IMO.
a side can always be improved mate. If a good offer is on the table then why not?
I agree with BB. I am more than happy with my squad and do not need to trade at all :)
Quote from: BB67th on October 01, 2012, 08:55:53 PM
Wow everyone trading already. I don't know why everyone trades so early when we have just finished drafting. Shows that you didn't draft a good side IMO.
This is too close to the bone for some!
Nice to have James Kelly on board :)
Grand final is looking even more of a sure thing :o
Quote from: Nails on October 01, 2012, 09:20:38 PM
Nice to have James Kelly on board :)
Grand final is looking even more of a sure thing :o
James Kelly has lsft Tibet chasing Premierships
The Llamas have pick 16 and you better not take the player we have in mind >:(
Quote from: Nails on October 01, 2012, 09:20:38 PM
Nice to have James Kelly on board :)
Grand final is looking even more of a sure thing :o
Nails, can you update your team thread with your starting line-up and everything else so it is easier to trade?
Is that serious?
Pick 16 of NAT for James Kelly?
Quote from: Adamant on October 01, 2012, 09:26:21 PM
Quote from: Nails on October 01, 2012, 09:20:38 PM
Nice to have James Kelly on board :)
Grand final is looking even more of a sure thing :o
Nails, can you update your team thread with your starting line-up and everything else so it is easier to trade?
Done ;)
Quote from: Nails on October 01, 2012, 09:30:04 PM
Quote from: Adamant on October 01, 2012, 09:26:21 PM
Quote from: Nails on October 01, 2012, 09:20:38 PM
Nice to have James Kelly on board :)
Grand final is looking even more of a sure thing :o
Nails, can you update your team thread with your starting line-up and everything else so it is easier to trade?
Done ;)
Nice :)
Tbag is going super young. Trading all his good players... And still hasn't gotten Tex ;)
Quote from: whatlez on October 01, 2012, 09:44:13 PM
Tbag is going super young. Trading all his good players... And still hasn't gotten Tex ;)
Look at the reasing in the trades list, I did throw it back on them to make me believe they were not in tbags case turning his side into GWS and in Nails case turning his side into a train wreck in 3 years time.
The trade is even but i did pass it reluctantly given the state of both their lists and what passed once may not pass twice ;) for them...
Still at 28 Kelly is worth no more or less than a pick 16 in all fairness, their lists aside it is a fair trade.
Quote from: Adamant on October 01, 2012, 09:31:54 PM
Quote from: Nails on October 01, 2012, 09:30:04 PM
Quote from: Adamant on October 01, 2012, 09:26:21 PM
Quote from: Nails on October 01, 2012, 09:20:38 PM
Nice to have James Kelly on board :)
Grand final is looking even more of a sure thing :o
Nails, can you update your team thread with your starting line-up and everything else so it is easier to trade?
Done ;)
Nice :)
You're meant to offer a man trades when you make him do that :(
Quote from: Nails on October 01, 2012, 09:55:34 PM
Quote from: Adamant on October 01, 2012, 09:31:54 PM
Quote from: Nails on October 01, 2012, 09:30:04 PM
Quote from: Adamant on October 01, 2012, 09:26:21 PM
Quote from: Nails on October 01, 2012, 09:20:38 PM
Nice to have James Kelly on board :)
Grand final is looking even more of a sure thing :o
Nails, can you update your team thread with your starting line-up and everything else so it is easier to trade?
Done ;)
Nice :)
You're meant to offer a man trades when you make him do that :(
lol sorry, I've nearly used up all my 4 list movements :(
Quote from: Nails on October 01, 2012, 09:55:34 PM
Quote from: Adamant on October 01, 2012, 09:31:54 PM
Quote from: Nails on October 01, 2012, 09:30:04 PM
Quote from: Adamant on October 01, 2012, 09:26:21 PM
Quote from: Nails on October 01, 2012, 09:20:38 PM
Nice to have James Kelly on board :)
Grand final is looking even more of a sure thing :o
Nails, can you update your team thread with your starting line-up and everything else so it is easier to trade?
Done ;)
Nice :)
You're meant to offer a man trades when you make him do that :(
Why you don't reply to offers :P
It's already done lez...
Pfft let nails think he's gunnu make it with his spuds ::)
Check out the headhunters list!! ;D
Wow. That sure is one strong opinion whatlez!
Brad Ebert, Mitch Wallis, Patrick Dangerfield...
Kelly would've struggled to even be in tbag's top 4 mids next season ::)
LYNCHING!!!!
LINCH SOMEONE!!!
Bangladesh Bears give: Dyson Heppell + Jasper Pittard + NAT pick 2 & 50.
Tibetan Llamas give: Paul Duffield + Dustin Martin + NAT pick 23 & 39.
tbag to confirm.
On a brighter note, the management in Bangladesh are butting heads with the Taiwanese.
Stand by for a mouth watering trade announcement*.
* A lot of excitement building in Taipei where Ma Ying-jeou is planning to announce a People's Democratic style public holiday for the people who don't work for the 'Government' - yes for both of them!
Quote from: Adamant on October 01, 2012, 10:30:00 PM
Bangladesh Bears give: Dyson Heppell + Jasper Pittard + NAT pick 2 & 50.
Tibetan Llamas give: Paul Duffield + Dustin Martin + NAT pick 23 & 39.
tbag to confirm.
Sorry, cooking tea and spudding up my trades :-[ got it right now
Confirm ;D
Quote from: Nails on October 01, 2012, 10:23:21 PM
Brad Ebert, Mitch Wallis, Patrick Dangerfield...
Kelly would've struggled to even be in tbag's top 4 mids next season ::)
Lol but you just mentioned 3... You only have this opinion because you are on the other side of the fence. Have you seen the other trades he has done? And when I say I will get the spoon, it's a joke. I could of easily drafted a lot younger team and put me on the bottom. Only because my oldest player is 24, does not mean I will get the spoon. Tbag is trading his 7th player, but like 3rd best averaging players for his team for the last pick of the first round in the draft? That is horrible. He needs a top 10 NAT pick for Kelly.
When put like that, whatlez's opinion sounds quite solid.
But what does it all mean?
Quote from: tor01doc on October 01, 2012, 10:48:52 PM
When put like that, whatlez's opinion sounds quite solid.
But what does it all mean?
Tbag will get the spoon, no doubt.
He does hold good press conferences though.
It means the Llamas can get the player they want in the draft, Kelly simply does not fit into our plans
If a player wants to leave for short term success then we will try and get something for that player rather than letting him go for nothing
Guys, The Bears will have 2 of Nick Riewoldt, Chris Knights & Boomer Harvey on the bench...
They are all/have been premiums in the past. We are looking to trade one for another average forward with decent JS and Corey Enright for a premium defender, who isnt older than about 28. Make an offer!
Quote from: Adamant on October 01, 2012, 10:30:00 PM
Bangladesh Bears give: Dyson Heppell + Jasper Pittard + NAT pick 2 & 50.
Tibetan Llamas give: Paul Duffield + Dustin Martin + NAT pick 23 & 39.
tbag to confirm.
APPROVEDagain description provided in trades approved list.
further comment to come on certain comments made above, I like to get my ducks in a row before i shoot MY mouth off so I'll line them up and then give you some feedback on certain comments made here previously.
I will also announce an avenue to appeal a trade the competing coaches feel is significantly
UNEVEN.
Quote from: Colliwobblers on October 01, 2012, 11:16:35 PM
Quote from: Adamant on October 01, 2012, 10:30:00 PM
Bangladesh Bears give: Dyson Heppell + Jasper Pittard + NAT pick 2 & 50.
Tibetan Llamas give: Paul Duffield + Dustin Martin + NAT pick 23 & 39.
tbag to confirm.
APPROVED
again description provided in trades approved list.
further comment to come on certain comments made above, I like to get my ducks in a row before i shoot MY mouth off so I'll line them up and then give you some feedback on certain comments made here previously.
I will also announce an avenue to appeal a trade the competing coaches feel is significantly UNEVEN.
Cheers Colli, and good doing business with you tbag :)
Yes that went much smoother than the other offers I was getting
I don't want to go down the path of everyone voting on trades as we all see things differently, need to have a governing body
Ok so let me get this right. I offered Tbag offered less one sided for Walker and he said no, but he would accept or even propose some of the offers he has currently?
And he loves Walker? That is inconsistant.
Quote from: whatlez on October 01, 2012, 11:46:22 PM
Ok so let me get this right. I offered Tbag offered less one sided for Walker and he said no, but he would accept or even propose some of the offers he has currently?
And he loves Walker? That is inconsistant.
Three top youngsters for one topliner is not a fair trade lez ::)
Quote from: tbagrocks on October 01, 2012, 11:54:53 PM
Quote from: whatlez on October 01, 2012, 11:46:22 PM
Ok so let me get this right. I offered Tbag offered less one sided for Walker and he said no, but he would accept or even propose some of the offers he has currently?
And he loves Walker? That is inconsistant.
Three top youngsters for one topliner is not a fair trade lez ::)
Guilty ;D
Eskimos give: Priddis, Hartlett and Rookie pick Round 5
Lambs Give: Rhys Palmer, Talyor Hunt, NAT draft pick 6
pickers to confirm.
Quote from: KoopKicka on October 02, 2012, 12:22:52 AM
Eskimos give: Priddis, Hartlett and Rookie pick Round 5
Lambs Give: Rhys Palmer, Talyor Hunt, NAT draft pick 6
pickers to confirm.
confirm.
Putting extreme value on the national draft !? :o
National draft picks 21 and 35 + Luke Brown FOR Pearce Hanley and NAT picks 50 & 55
confirmation tbagrocks?
Quote from: tbagrocks on October 02, 2012, 12:49:29 AM
What if: We get an assistant to CW for trading to take the pressure off him a little bit
1. We ask a senior from the Worlds/Euros
2. we nominate and then the 16 coaches vote ?
so CW will have someone to confurr trades with!
We voted against this, for good reason, trades sit for weeks in other competitions waiting for committees to pass them, discuss them vote on them.
Then you cant make other trades while you wait to see if the players you would trade ( or picks) are available or not.
I don't mind the pressure, it is a responsibility and as i laid out in my short story above i will allow an appeal process, and there are people i can trust and go as far as having post their view on the trades if it comes to a serious appeal of a decision in the future.
But lets leave the need for a committee or a vote for the EXTREME UNEVEN TRADES THAT ARE GENUINELY APPEALED.
As for the trade Whatlez complained about, he has a right to but better do it through a PM to me appealing it in future.
Outbursts and criticisms of trades, just spawn negativity and turn people off the process, it causes insult and offense to the people trading and is antisocial behavior.
If there is a naughty corner in AXVs Whatlez is sitting in it. >:(
Everyone is entitled to their opinion but if you want to criticize or comment on a trade extremely negatively just DON'T
If you want to APPEAL a trade - PM me.
Nails You are now in the naughty corner opposite the naughty corner Whatlez is in, and don't face each other ! :P
lol
Quote from: KoopKicka on October 02, 2012, 12:22:52 AM
Eskimos give: Priddis, Hartlett and Rookie pick Round 5
Lambs Give: Rhys Palmer, Talyor Hunt, NAT draft pick 6
pickers to confirm.
DENIED. Needs Palmer or Taylor to be upgraded to get through.It isn't far off guys, Full detail on analysis on the front trades list. Almost snuck through with a slight improvement on the Palmer side or a slight downgrade on the Priddis side it would pass.
As I said details on the list thread.
I'm not scared. :o
Quote from: whatlez on October 02, 2012, 01:18:58 AM
Quote from: Jayman on October 02, 2012, 01:13:02 AM
Quote from: tbagrocks on October 02, 2012, 01:09:19 AM
lol
you agree on PM but now you dont? :o
Yeah good call tbag. But that's dog to Jay.
By posting here, it gives us a chance to at least see what Colli's thoughts are, then we can go from there :)
I was "lol'ing" at CW's response to the naughty corner ;D
as the trade, I thought we had to have confirmation from CW before we posted here? I am not sure what to do, I doubt the trade will accepted just because I want a few mid picks!
Quote from: tbagrocks on October 02, 2012, 01:25:04 AM
I was "lol'ing" at CW's response to the naughty corner ;D
as the trade, I thought we had to have confirmation from CW before we posted here? I am not sure what to do, I doubt the trade will accepted just because I want a few mid picks!
I thought we posted here, then Colli gives us a yay or a nay and why :) I understand it may not be accepted but it gives us something to work on depending on Colli's thoughts...remember you offered it to me ::)
Quote from: Jayman on October 02, 2012, 01:00:11 AM
National draft picks 21 and 35 + Luke Brown FOR Pearce Hanley and NAT picks 50 & 55
confirmation tbagrocks?
DENIED. Trade is detrimental to the Llamas short term hopes of success.
Trade was even guys and well done there, but The Llamas defense is weakened by the trade and it is not in a position to be further weakened. While the Llamas boast high hopes and much promise for the future they are not going to be allowed to write off any hopes of PRESENT success. Which this trade does.
I am willing to trade my oldest players:
Michael Barlow at 24 years - 9 month.
Travis boak 24 years - 2 months
Scott Gumbleton 24 years - 2 months
Lachlan Hansen 24 years - 1 month
Stewart Crameri 24 years - 1 month
Jarryn Geary 24 years - 3 months*
My only other 24 year old is Goldstein, but he like our MVP, so he won't be leaving the Elephants.
If you interested in any of these players for a player at about equal playing ability, but a few younger than more than welcome to PM me ;)
If we ( that's my new bestie 14Brummy and I) be interested, what sweetener did you have in mind for the extra youth you are asking for?
If none, then why would anyone trade old like for young like?
Who do you want?
I am not looking to trade. I am happy with my squad.
Will Cw recons it isn't that even and he hasn't even put into prospective that Taylor Hunt will be a midfielder and he is a massive spud.
I am sure people would of thought it was unfair, they just do not want to express themselves. And Taylor Hunt is a midfield tagger. Check all Monty's reviews on his games. Majority he is mentioned tagging close to the top mid at each club...
Round 3 - Tagging Harvey
Round 4 - Tagging Cotchin
Round 5 - Tagging Black
Round 7 - Tagging Dangerfield
Round 8 - Tagging Swan
Round 9 - Tagging Griffen
Round 10 - Tagging Greene
Round 11 - Tagging Simpson
Round 12 - Tagging O'Keefe then moved
Round 15 - Tagging Ablett
Round 16 - Tagging Thomas
Round 17 - Tagging Watson
Round 20 - On Masten
Round 21 - Tagging Dal Santo
Round 23 - Tagging Jetta
Final - Tagging stephen Hill
According to Monty he played in defence 3 games.
Has nothing to do with hunt being a back..... Hartlett and priddis arnt backs and from colli he thinks hartlett is no chance off DPP.
So priddis for palmer and hunt, hartlett for nat 6 how the flower is that unfair.
Thought administration was in so extremely bad trades were stopped, this is not that.
Its a bad trade pickers no need to argue :P
Hartlett is worth Pick 1 minimum.
Palmer will be lucky to get a game after next season so therefore its Priddis for Hunt and i know which id prefer.
Quote from: JBs-Hawks on October 02, 2012, 03:47:40 PM
Its a bad trade pickers no need to argue :P
Hartlett is worth Pick 1 minimum.
Palmer will be lucky to get a game after next season so therefore its Priddis for Hunt and i know which id prefer.
+1
Yeah I didn't even know about Nails trade lol... :S
I didnt know you could do that, would of stopped all the spuds commenting :( stupid me!
But yeah still wasnt unfair i reckon haha, ohwell just got an irishman instead ;D
Still not confirmed :o
Anyone who needs a premium forward, I have Nick Riewoldt (125 avg this year) should play 2 more years & Chris Knights (Potential 110+ avg at the Tiges) on the trading block.
Looking for a premium defender, and could add Corey Enright to the deal for a short term replacement for the defender...
Here is my team:
DEF: P.Duffield - M.Johnson - C.Enright - B.Reilly
MID: J.Selwood - S.Mitchell - D.Mundy - S.Tuck
RUC: B.McEvoy
FWD: N.Fyfe - D.Martin - D.Stanley - N.Riewoldt
UTI: L.Hodge - D.Cross
BENCH: DEF: D.Cassisi (MID) - R.Murphy - J.Macdonald - J.Rivers - J.Toy - J.Gwilt
MID: B.Moloney - J.Brennan - M.Rischitelli - S.Savage - J.Gysberts - M.Thomas
RUC: N.Vardy - M.Jamar
FWD: C.Knights (MID) - B.Harvey (MID) - B.Staker (DEF) - I.Callinan - J.King - R.Petterd - C.Hitchcock
PM me an offer.
Big trade news coming out of the headhunters camp word is Vietnam Vipers have agreed to a deal which will see one of PNG's top midfielders make the trip across to the mainland in season 2013.
Pending confirmation and approval from bossman...
Headhunters give:
Dale Thomas & Luke Parker + National Pick# 37 (3rd rnd)
Vipers give:
Alex Fasolo & Jack Trengove + National Pick# 46 (3rd rnd)
Vipers win that hands down IMO.
Quote from: tor01doc on October 02, 2012, 11:46:23 PM
Vipers win that hands down IMO.
agreed. Even without the swap of picks :o
Obviously collie slightly wins but no reason to block the trade just mons fault for not getting a first rounder.
I'd say that one is pretty even actually...
Quote from: JBs-Hawks on October 02, 2012, 11:54:49 PM
Obviously collie slightly wins but no reason to block the trade just mons fault for not getting a first rounder.
yeah i agree :)
Whats everyones reasons for is being favoured to cw, i think its pretty even :)
Interested to hear though
Quote from: monstrum on October 02, 2012, 11:57:38 PM
Whats everyones reasons for is being favoured to cw, i think its pretty even :)
go for it then ;D
Quote from: monstrum on October 02, 2012, 11:57:38 PM
Whats everyones reasons for is being favoured to cw, i think its pretty even :)
Interested to hear though
Because Thomas is a premo and the other 3 aren't.
Quote from: Nails on October 02, 2012, 11:55:17 PM
I'd say that one is pretty even actually...
Dale Thomas - 25yo 125ave. Luke Parker 19yo (20yo this month) - 86 ave - pick 37
vs.
Fasolo 20yo - 100.14 ave Trengove 21yo - 100.18 ave - pick 46
Once you factor the ages in, I'd say it's either DEAD even or a very marginal win for the team getting Fasolo and Trengove.
^ posted at Palindrome o'clock. The winner is I.
Quote from: monstrum on October 02, 2012, 11:57:38 PM
Whats everyones reasons for is being favoured to cw, i think its pretty even :)
Interested to hear though
Its a slight win for Colli...
Daisy beats Fasolo (obviously as he's a premo) and Trengove is a little better than Parker. Will be very even if Trengove gets back to 2011 form.
Luke parkers average is sub/injury affected.
Damn I wanbt Fasolo. Mons can we talk? ;D
Quote from: whatlez on October 03, 2012, 12:03:58 AM
Damn I wanbt Fasolo. Mons can we talk? ;D
And I wanted blody Trengove can we talk ;D
Im all out of movements now, that is 4 for the headhunters
But Fasolo can move on again mons :o
You know who's on the out...
Is that right, i didnt no that. Im happy to hear offers but i wont be making any :)
Yeah the same player can move unlimited I'm pretty sure.
Mons you want Barlow right? ;)
Barlow would b good.
But daisy was my bait for a fwd, i need that fwd player
I can't PM anymore !
Mons if you're keen on Barlow please share :)
Nah mate dosnt fit into my side :-\
Ok.
Give me more PMs!
How do i do that? .....
;)
Got 2 more then ran it agin :( lol.
How's the most recent trades going?
Colli said earlier he'd confirm trades tomorro :(
Quote from: Colliwobblers on October 03, 2012, 01:55:04 AM
but let me get sober and off this boat and I will sign off on all trade proposals tomorrow might or Friday
:o
lol he doesn't even know what day it is ;D
lol, better not pull out of our deal :P
Trade between the Manila Folders and the UAE Tigers.
Folders give: NAT draft pick 12
Tigers give: Nathan Foley
Reasoning: As much as I would love to keep my first round draft pick, I am going for short term success and Nathan Foley will be a welcome addition to my midfield. Because of his age of injury concerns I feel he is worth about pick 12 with what he averages.
Quote from: BB67th on October 03, 2012, 04:30:36 PM
Trade between the Manila Folders and the UAE Tigers.
Folders give: NAT draft pick 12
Tigers give: Nathan Foley
Reasoning: As much as I would love to keep my first round draft pick, I am going for short term success and Nathan Foley will be a welcome addition to my midfield. Because of his age of injury concerns I feel he is worth about pick 12 with what he averages.
Yep I confirm this
Heavy trade fellas - well done.
Cw OK with it?
Is Foley better than Kelly?
Yes. Longer term I think.
Is 12th pick better than 17th?
All these nat picks going, what would pick 1 get? PM me
Yeah at this rate. Pick 1 is worth Trent Cotchin.
Same with pick # 5 certainly willing to part for the rightprice, hit me up :)
How people are rating. Michael Barlow should be worth pick 5? Actually he isn't worth that much ::)
Quote from: whatlez on October 03, 2012, 05:15:35 PM
How people are rating. Michael Barlow should be worth pick 5? Actually he isn't worth that much ::)
about 16/17 :P
Quote from: tbagrocks on October 03, 2012, 05:16:32 PM
Quote from: whatlez on October 03, 2012, 05:15:35 PM
How people are rating. Michael Barlow should be worth pick 5? Actually he isn't worth that much ::)
about 16/17 :P
He's 10x better than Kelly ::)
Like a dog with a bone. ::)
Quote from: tor01doc on October 03, 2012, 05:22:12 PM
Like a dog with a bone. ::)
Do you ever make sense? Or make relevant posts? :P
Grrrrrr
;D
Coffee time! 8)
Check out my front page. It's awesome!
Laos Elephants (http://www.fanfooty.com.au/forum/index.php/topic,66517.0.html)
I got a little directory and everything :)
I did look at it last night whatlez, very impressive, might plagerize dome of ur ideas ::)
Quote from: whatlez on October 03, 2012, 05:06:10 PM
Yeah at this rate. Pick 1 is worth Trent Cotchin.
Quit your flowering sooking, thats a good trade for both teams.
Quote from: whatlez on October 03, 2012, 05:44:50 PM
Check out my front page. It's awesome!
Laos Elephants (http://www.fanfooty.com.au/forum/index.php/topic,66517.0.html)
I got a little directory and everything :)
That's what the ladies tell me ;)
P.s this is the Trade thread not the discussion thread ::) maybe keep posting in the Draft thread and built that baby ;D
On a serious note...
National draft pick #5 is up for trade.
Also any of my other picks can be included if need be (they're pretty low atm)
PM me if ur interested, we'll sort something out
Quote from: JBs-Hawks on October 03, 2012, 05:47:33 PM
Quote from: whatlez on October 03, 2012, 05:06:10 PM
Yeah at this rate. Pick 1 is worth Trent Cotchin.
Quit your flowering sooking, thats a good trade for both teams.
What? It was a joke and response to what Holz commented ::)
Shut up JB, I was just joking.
Announcement coming via pm in a few hours and all trades will be reviewed also and decisions posted early tonight.
Trade between the UAE Tigers and the Kuala Lumpir Crocodiles
Tigers give: Mark LeCras + NAT pick 26
Crodoiles give: Jack Ziebell + Rookie pick 12
Reasoning: The Tigers need to strengthen there midfield while the Crocodiles are after another forward
Quote from: JROO8 on October 03, 2012, 06:50:45 PM
Trade between the UAE Tigers and the Kuala Lumpir Crocodiles
Tigers give: Mark LeCras + NAT pick 26
Crodoiles give: Jack Ziebell + Rookie pick 12
Reasoning: The Tigers need to strengthen there midfield while the Crocodiles are after another forward
Confirmed: We have loads of Mids but lack forward power. Lecras helps this. Pick swap bridges the gap between JZ and Lecras.
Quote from: Maca24 on October 03, 2012, 06:57:54 PM
Quote from: JROO8 on October 03, 2012, 06:50:45 PM
Trade between the UAE Tigers and the Kuala Lumpir Crocodiles
Tigers give: Mark LeCras + NAT pick 26
Crodoiles give: Jack Ziebell + Rookie pick 12
Reasoning: The Tigers need to strengthen there midfield while the Crocodiles are after another forward
Confirmed: We have loads of Mids but lack forward power. Lecras helps this. Pick swap bridges the gap between JZ and Lecras.
Reply to PM Maca...
Guys your supposed to pm offers to CW for confirmation before posting here ::) :P ;D
Quote from: Colliwobblers on October 02, 2012, 01:11:34 AM
Quote from: KoopKicka on October 02, 2012, 12:22:52 AM
Eskimos give: Priddis, Hartlett and Rookie pick Round 5
Lambs Give: Rhys Palmer, Talyor Hunt, NAT draft pick 6
pickers to confirm.
DENIED. Needs Palmer or Taylor to be upgraded to get through.
It isn't far off guys, Full detail on analysis on the front trades list. Almost snuck through with a slight improvement on the Palmer side or a slight downgrade on the Priddis side it would pass.
As I said details on the list thread.
APPROVED. Trade is not EXTREME UNEVEN. Trade Does not give either team a HUGE advantage over other teams.
(one team may arguably get better players, but it gives up good players - not spuds, and a VERY HIGH draft pick)
Quote from: monstrum on October 02, 2012, 11:41:59 PM
Big trade news coming out of the headhunters camp word is Vietnam Vipers have agreed to a deal which will see one of PNG's top midfielders make the trip across to the mainland in season 2013.
Pending confirmation and approval from bossman...
Headhunters give:
Dale Thomas & Luke Parker + National Pick# 37 (3rd rnd)
Vipers give:
Alex Fasolo & Jack Trengove + National Pick# 46 (3rd rnd)
Confirmed.
Me I think Daisy is as good as he is going to get but I like him better than Trengove (who has a much higher ceiling i think). Fasolo I feel i might regret heaps of improvement left in him, if parker doesn't come on and trengove lives up to the promise it would be a double lose for me but i got a better pick out of it so I'll take my chances.
APPROVED. Trade is neither EXTREME UNEVEN or gives a HUGE advantage to one team over other teams.
Nice, i feel like i wrote ur analysis of the trade lol ;)
Dnt forget parkers scores are massivly sub affected, i feel i could regret letting him go! But u gotta giv to get :)
To make it easier I will post it here, please all Coaches involved confirm pm to Colli
Trade 1.
Llamas give
Brad Ebert, Nat pick 55, Rookie pick 7
Escimos move pick 6
Wingard, Nat picks 6, 31
Trade 2.[/b
Llamas move pick 6
Nat pick 6, Rookie pick 87
Elephants give
Nat picks 17, 31
Trade 3.
Llamas move pick 17, Dyson Heppell
Heppell, Nat picks 17, 50
Headhunters move Jack Trengrove
Jack Trengove, Nat 5, Rookie 5
No worries i second that notion!
Quote from: BB67th on October 03, 2012, 04:30:36 PM
Trade between the Manila Folders and the UAE Tigers.
Folders give: NAT draft pick 12
Tigers give: Nathan Foley
Reasoning: As much as I would love to keep my first round draft pick, I am going for short term success and Nathan Foley will be a welcome addition to my midfield. Because of his age of injury concerns I feel he is worth about pick 12 with what he averages.
APPROVED.
Quote from: tbagrocks on October 03, 2012, 09:16:48 PM
To make it easier I will post it here, please all Coaches involved confirm pm to Colli
Trade 1.
Llamas give
Brad Ebert, Nat pick 55, Rookie pick 7
Escimos move pick 6
Wingard, Nat picks 6, 31
Trade 2.[/b
Llamas move pick 6
Nat pick 6, Rookie pick 87
Elephants give
Nat picks 17, 31
Trade 3.
Llamas move pick 17, Dyson Heppell
Heppell, Nat picks 17, 50
Headhunters move Jack Trengrove
Jack Trengove, Nat 5, Rookie 5
Might want to post where they are going :p
Llamas give
Brad Ebert, Heppell, Nat picks 50, 55, Rookie round 1(7) round 6 (87)
Recieve
Wingard, Trengove, Nat pick 5, 31, 33 Rookie, round 1 (5)
Eskimos give
Wingard, Nat picks 6, 31
Recieve
Brad Ebert, Nat pick 55, Rookie round 1 (7)
Elephants give
Nat picks 17, 33
Recieve,
Nat 6, Rookie round 2 (23)
Headhunters give
Jack Trengove, Nat pick 5, Rookie round 1 (5)
Recieve
Heppell, Nat pick 17, 50
How's that CW I think that's right
Poor bloke CW :-\
Quote from: Colliwobblers on October 03, 2012, 09:23:07 PM
Quote from: BB67th on October 03, 2012, 04:30:36 PM
Trade between the Manila Folders and the UAE Tigers.
Folders give: NAT draft pick 12
Tigers give: Nathan Foley
Reasoning: As much as I would love to keep my first round draft pick, I am going for short term success and Nathan Foley will be a welcome addition to my midfield. Because of his age of injury concerns I feel he is worth about pick 12 with what he averages.
APPROVED. pending trade alteration The folders do not have nat pick 12. They have nat pick 11.
Folders to confirm the pick number.
Quote from: Colliwobblers on October 03, 2012, 09:30:55 PM
Quote from: Colliwobblers on October 03, 2012, 09:23:07 PM
Quote from: BB67th on October 03, 2012, 04:30:36 PM
Trade between the Manila Folders and the UAE Tigers.
Folders give: NAT draft pick 12
Tigers give: Nathan Foley
Reasoning: As much as I would love to keep my first round draft pick, I am going for short term success and Nathan Foley will be a welcome addition to my midfield. Because of his age of injury concerns I feel he is worth about pick 12 with what he averages.
APPROVED. pending trade alteration The folders do not have nat pick 12. They have nat pick 11.
Folders to confirm the pick number.
Whoops my bad, thought it was pick 12. I approve it being pick 11 instead.
Quote from: Maca24 on October 03, 2012, 06:57:54 PM
Quote from: JROO8 on October 03, 2012, 06:50:45 PM
Trade between the UAE Tigers and the Kuala Lumpir Crocodiles
Tigers give: Mark LeCras + NAT pick 26
Crodoiles give: Jack Ziebell + Rookie pick 12
Reasoning: The Tigers need to strengthen there midfield while the Crocodiles are after another forward
Confirmed: We have loads of Mids but lack forward power. Lecras helps this. Pick swap bridges the gap between JZ and Lecras.
APPROVED.
Quote from: tbagrocks on October 03, 2012, 09:27:40 PM
Llamas give
Brad Ebert, Heppell, Nat picks 50, 55, Rookie round 1(7) round 6 (87)
Recieve
Wingard, Trengove, Nat pick 5, 31, 33 Rookie, round 1 (5)
Eskimos give
Wingard, Nat picks 6, 31
Recieve
Brad Ebert, Nat pick 55, Rookie round 1 (7)
Elephants give
Nat picks 17, 33
Recieve,
Nat 6, Rookie round 6 (87)
Headhunters give
Jack Trengove, Nat pick 5, Rookie round 1 (5)
Recieve
Heppell, Nat pick 17, 50
How's that CW I think that's right
DENIED - flower that too much effort to work out. But serious response is always in color (below) and give me an hour to update the picks and player lists and post it all up on front page post.
APPROVED.
Think there are some clear winners or losers, but opinions aren't my job, the trade is not EXTREME UNEVEN and no team in it all gains a HUGE advantage over any other teams through the deal. So it is all FINE :)
* JUST SO EVERYBODY UNDERSTANDS - YOU MAY ON TRADE A PLAYER YOU TRADED IN WITHOUT IT USING A LIST MOVEMENT.* IT IS ACTUALLY A LIST MOVEMENT BUT NOT WHEN I REFER BACK TO PRE-TRADE LIST, THEN THE CHANGE IS ONLY 1 LIST MOVEMENT NO MATTER HOW MANY TIMES YOU TRADE DIFFERENT PLAYERS THROUGH THAT SAME POSITION ON YOUR LIST ( IF THAT MAKES SENSE)
* Example.
Original list...
1. swan
2. ablett.
3. picken
4. spud
trade #1 picken for heppell
= 1 list movement and new list
1. swan
2. ablett.
3. heppell
4. spud
trade #2 hepell for donkey
= 0 list movement and new list
1. swan
2. ablett.
3. donkey
4. spud
trade #3 donkey for pick #6
= 0 list movement and new list
1. swan
2. ablett.
3.
4. spud
trade #4 pick 6 for cotchin
= 0 list movement and new list VS original list
1. swan 1. swan
2. ablett. 2. ablett
3.
cotchin 3.
picken4. spud 4. spud
BOLD is the only change (list movement) to your original list
Quote from: whatlez on October 03, 2012, 05:44:50 PM
Check out my front page. It's awesome!
Laos Elephants (http://www.fanfooty.com.au/forum/index.php/topic,66517.0.html)
I got a little directory and everything :)
You know what's hilarious? 50 posts per page. Your 45 resserves only shows as one page for me. ;D
lol nice 1 colli, thanks 8)
It needs to be noted that we changed rookie pick 87 to rookie pick 23. We made this change before the trade went through :)
me want 100+ defenders
trade me nowwwwwwwwwww
Message me if you have a defender who averaged 99+ we can work deals out :o
wonder if goddard will be considered a DEF next season, suppose he will have to be but time he will spend in the midfield for Essendon in 2013 = 96.273% at a rough estimate :)
OK Anyone who had PM a trade proposal to me feel free to post them in the thread, since the announcement i sent out there will be no complaining (much ) about trades and it will make it easier for me to find any outstanding trades :)
I will go through all my PM and check but just in case i miss one or ten maybe best to post here if you have one proposed waiting for approval.
Goddard will be a defender again next season, don't you worry ;)
Quote from: BB67th on October 03, 2012, 10:47:11 PM
Goddard will be a defender again next season, don't you worry ;)
Yeah and just imagine what he will score playing mostly mid - I pencil him in for 110-115. avg (DT)
would have considered starting him again as he was at ST K but now he is a LOCK.
Quote from: Colliwobblers on October 03, 2012, 10:49:28 PM
Quote from: BB67th on October 03, 2012, 10:47:11 PM
Goddard will be a defender again next season, don't you worry ;)
Yeah and just imagine what he will score playing mostly mid - I pencil him in for 110-115. avg (DT)
would have considered starting him again as he was at ST K but now he is a LOCK.
He will take Lids' spot as the #1 DT/SC defender.
Off the table:
Scott Pendlebery
Brad Ebert
Daniel Hannebery
Michael Hibberd
Cyril Rioli
Luke Dahlhaus
Paddy Ryder
Jarrad Redden
Would need an amazing offer:
David Ellard
Allen Christensen
Brian Lake
Anthony Morabito
Jarryd Blair
Jamie Cripps
Alan Didak
Up for discussion:
Everyone else:
You are tight koop. Didak is a spud & so is Morabito. :-X
would need an amazing offer for didak ???
pretty sure this's his last year
I'll give you an amazing offer for Didak:
3rd round rookie pick.
Quote from: Torpedo10 on October 04, 2012, 03:41:42 PM
You are tight koop. Didak is a spud & so is Morabito. :-X
Valid points there, Didak is my only genuine forward back up apart from Tory Dickson though (that can, when fit, play regularly), and Morabito is a former number 4 pick. ;)
Quote from: Nails on October 04, 2012, 03:46:40 PM
I'll give you an amazing offer for Didak:
3rd round rookie pick.
CW could never accept it, your getting ripped of nails!
Quote from: tbagrocks on October 04, 2012, 03:52:00 PM
Quote from: Nails on October 04, 2012, 03:46:40 PM
I'll give you an amazing offer for Didak:
3rd round rookie pick.
CW could never accept it, your getting ripped of nails!
yep, 4th round pick would be a 60-40 Koop's way too. :-X
Quote from: Torpedo10 on October 04, 2012, 03:53:04 PM
Quote from: tbagrocks on October 04, 2012, 03:52:00 PM
Quote from: Nails on October 04, 2012, 03:46:40 PM
I'll give you an amazing offer for Didak:
3rd round rookie pick.
CW could never accept it, your getting ripped of nails!
yep, 4th round pick would be a 60-40 Koop's way too. :-X
:P
Eskimos give: Tory Dickson, NAT pick 47, PSD pick 7
Dolphins give: Daniel Merrett, NAT pick 45, PSD pick 13
tor01doc to confirm, I think thats what we agreed on doc? i cant remember whether I said 1st or 2nd round PSD, if I said second, please correct me. :)
Why not Tory Dickson for Daniel Merrett??
That's pretty much what the trade actually is ::)
Quote from: whatlez on October 04, 2012, 11:33:47 PM
Why not Tory Dickson for Daniel Merrett??
That's pretty much what the trade actually is ::)
sssssshhhh lez, ;)
Quote from: KoopKicka on October 04, 2012, 11:34:18 PM
Quote from: whatlez on October 04, 2012, 11:33:47 PM
Why not Tory Dickson for Daniel Merrett??
That's pretty much what the trade actually is ::)
sssssshhhh lez, ;)
they just want me to earn my salary changing shower around on the draft lists :)
Yeah yeah.
Confirm away.
The lad is going to be a lawyer one day and who knows, we might need him!
Cheers.
Quote from: KoopKicka on October 04, 2012, 11:03:22 PM
Eskimos give: Tory Dickson, NAT pick 47, PSD pick 7
Dolphins give: Daniel Merrett, NAT pick 45, PSD pick 13
tor01doc to confirm, I think thats what we agreed on doc? i cant remember whether I said 1st or 2nd round PSD, if I said second, please correct me. :)
APPROVED
Quote from: tor01doc on October 05, 2012, 09:18:01 PM
Trade alert - wee ooh wee ooh wee ooh! ( the sound a siren makes according to my 3 year old )
The 2 Johnny come latelies - Jroo8 and I have agreed terms regarding the following trade.
X Ellis and pick 47 to Rooville
S Wright and pick 58 into the tuna fishing nets of the coast of Taiwan.
Quote from: JROO8 on October 05, 2012, 09:22:12 PM
And yes I confirm
APPROVED
UPDATE ON ALL TRADE ACTIVITY. 4 Team owners have traded themselves out, 3 Team owners have not picked up the phone at all.
Surprisingly, average list movements per team at this time is exactly 2.
ALSO ONE TRADE HAS BEEN "PROMISED" FOR TRADE PERIOD #2 WHICH WILL NOT BE PROCESSED NATURALLY UNTIL THAT TRADE WINDOW OPENS.
AGREEING TO A TRADE FOR TRADE WINDOW #2 IS FINE AND SUBMIT IT TO ME I WILL POST IT IN THAT WINDOW FOR YOU AND IT CAN BE PROCESSED (IF APPROVED) WHEN TRADE WINDOW #2 OPENS.
OBVIOUSLY WON'T COUNT AS A TRADE, THEREFORE WON'T COUNT AS A LIST MOVEMENT UNTIL THAT TIME.
Quote from: Colliwobblers on September 18, 2012, 10:41:34 PM
PROPOSED AND APPROVED TRADES LISTING - TRADE PERIOD #1
*TRADE # 1
Sri Lanken Strikers gives: Rockliff, Golby + National Draft pick # 51
PNG Headhunters gives: Gaff, Howe + National Draft pick # 21
VERDICT: APPROVED.
Balanced trade in scoring, potential and age, further balanced (Rockliff) by the pick trade.
*TRADE # 2
Mongollian Lambs give: Luke Shuey + Trent Mckenzie
Austalian Ales give: Steele Sidebottom + National Draft pick # 36
VERDICT: APPROVED.
Balanced trade in scoring, player potential vs draft pick player potential. Trade slightly favors the Ales, but not enough to block and given the talent in this Nat Draft it should balance out.
*TRADE # 3
Hong Kong Dongs give: National draft pick # 16
Tibetan Llamas give: James Kelly
VERDICT: APPROVED.
Trade is balanced James Kelly was a pick 17. James Kelly is already premium and a premium scorer right now, Pick # 16 should become a premium and remain a premium scorer for a lot longer, BUT won't be for a few years yet. The trade is balanced, but was sent back to the coaches based on their lists for further evidence to be provided to me that their lists could support such a trade. Nails was able to show he has talent enough (if just) coming through) and Tbagrocks was able to show he can still field a competitive midfield (if just).
*TRADE # 4
Bangladesh Bears give: Dyson Heppell + Jasper Pittard + NAT pick 2 & 50.
Tibetan Llamas give: Paul Duffield + Dustin Martin + NAT pick 23 & 39.
VERDICT: APPROVED.
The trade is balanced, Heppell is equal in age and ability to Martin but Martin will outscore Heppell a little here duel to goal kicking points. Pittard has a big future anywhere as an attacking defender and a high draft pick himself. His youth and potential rate him as a better prospect long term than Duffield who is much, much older. But Duffield is close to premium defender so a worthy trade for Pittard. To further balance the trade A much higher Pick is given up to the side giving up Martin and Duffield - which is appropriate and acts as the final balance.
*TRADE # 5
Eskimos give: Priddis, Hartlett and Rookie pick Round 5
Lambs Give: Rhys Palmer, Talyor Hunt, NAT draft pick 6
VERDICT: APPROVED.
Trade favors the Eskinos slightly but that is just an opinion and it is not EXTREMELY uneven and does not provide a HUGE advantage. Pick 6 is a strong balance for Hartlett, Priddis and a nothing rook pick almost equal to Palmer and Hunt.
*TRADE # 6
Sri Lankan Strikers Give: National draft picks 21 and 35 + Luke Brown
Tibetan Llamas Give: Pearce Hanley and NAT picks 50 & 55
VERDICT: DENIED.
Trade denied on list and even issues, was not resubmitted for approval. Trade Canceled.
*TRADE # 7
Headhunters give: Dale Thomas & Luke Parker + National Pick# 37
Vipers give: Alex Fasolo & Jack Trengove + National Pick# 46
VERDICT: APPROVED.
Trade is deemed to be even.
*TRADE # 8
Folders give: NAT draft pick 11
Tigers give: Nathan Foley
VERDICT: APPROVED.
Similar to the previous trade of Kelly and 16, 11 is better than 16, Foley has 2-3 years more in him than Kelly.
Again trade is not EXTREME UNEVEN, and does not give either team a HUGE advantage over other teams.
*TRADE # 9
Tigers give: Mark LeCras + NAT pick 26
Crocodiles give: Jack Ziebell + Rookie pick 12
VERDICT: APPROVED.
Trade is deemed to be even.
*TRADE # 10
Llamas
give: Brad Ebert, Heppell, Nat picks 50, 55, Rookie round 1(7) round 2 (23)
Recieve: Wingard, Trengove, Nat pick 5, 31, 33 Rookie, round 1 (5)
Eskimos
give: Wingard, Nat picks 6, 31
Recieve: Brad Ebert, Nat pick 55, Rookie round 1 (7)
Elephants
give: Nat picks 17, 33
Recieve: Nat 6, Rookie round 2 (23)
Headhunters
give: Jack Trengove, Nat pick 5, Rookie round 1 (5)
Recieve: Heppell, Nat pick 17, 50
VERDICT: APPROVED.
For the complexity of it it is surprisingly even all round, certainly not EXTREME uneven nor does it give any one team a HUGE advantage over the other teams in the competition.
*TRADE # 11
Eskimos give: Tory Dickson, NAT pick 47, PSD pick 7
Dolphins give: Daniel Merrett, NAT pick 45, PSD pick 13
VERDICT: APPROVED.
Trade is deemed to be even.
*TRADE # 12
UAE TIGERS give: S Wright + Nat Pick #58
TAIWAN DOLPHINS give: X Ellis + Nat Pick #47
VERDICT: APPROVED.
Trade is deemed to be even enough to warrant no further explanation.
REMAINING LIST MOVEMENTS
Whatlez = 4
Adamant = 2
Jayman = 2
JbsHawks = 2
Monstrom = 0
Picker_man = 0
Tbagrocks = 0
Nostradamus = 4
Noz = 4
JROO8 = 1
BB67TH = 3
Maca24 = 3
Tor01doc = 2
Colliwobblers = 2
KoopKicka = 0
Nails = 3
Was I meant to reply to that pm you sent me ages ago Colli?
I was busy, didn't read it and forgot about it...
You sent it like 5 days - week ago?
not sure but it doesnt matter, there was none htat needed a reply since voting for new coach...
there was a couple to read that were important, mainly the one about trade decisions going forward.
just to make sure we are all on the same page. :) hasn't been any issues since anyway so i think we're all good :)
I'm still open for trades.
Looking for a top 10 pick.
Barlow on the market.
In the second trade period I will be looking for a back-up forward with rock-solid JS, doesnt have to be relatively high scoring, can offer up plenty of defensive and midfield depth. :)
Yes I like whatlez would like picks....
I am late in the draft so could use some early picks, round 1 or even round 2 picks.
I am wanting: Pciks / Defender / Forward.
I am offering: Midfielders
All offers considered.
I have Picks 10 and 11 available. Looking for a good scoring forward :D
I want a pick between 8-15 with a starting forward for SJ.
In desperate need of a back :-/ both my 2nd round picks are on the table, also Grigg, Scully, Simpson, Gibson
PM me
Hey Jay
What went astray?
'We' had a great backline at one stage!
Check out The Dolphins' defence - anything of interest?
Quote from: tor01doc on October 06, 2012, 03:47:40 PM
Hey Jay
What went astray?
'We' had a great backline at one stage!
Check out The Dolphins' defence - anything of interest?
The loss of Golby has had an impact + the age of Burgoyne and Scotland...not the worst in the comp by a long shot, but its my weakest line :)
Waters.....
The Folders are also looking for a good scoring defender, age does not really matter. We have more forwards available for trade.
Who has NDS #4/#5/#6? We are keen for it.
PM me if you can help. Can offer Midfielders.
Also looking for a top defender U25.
Our first round pick is on the table. (10/11?)
Suckling, Houli, Hartlett, Malceski, Grundy, Smith...... 8)
Quote from: picker_man on October 06, 2012, 03:58:40 PM
Suckling, Houli, Hartlett, Malceski, Grundy, Smith...... 8)
haha you know I want Suckling ;) we'll be in talks
Quote from: Jayman on October 06, 2012, 04:00:25 PM
Quote from: picker_man on October 06, 2012, 03:58:40 PM
Suckling, Houli, Hartlett, Malceski, Grundy, Smith...... 8)
haha you know I want Suckling ;) we'll be in talks
His price has just risen :o haha :P
Anyone who wants a defender i have colin garland and tyson goldsack, i know theyre not premo's but they might be better than what u'v got, i duno PM me if interested
Anyone wanting a defender and doesnt care about age, I am very willing to get rid of Corey Enright.
Quote from: Adamant on October 06, 2012, 04:17:07 PM
Anyone wanting a defender and doesnt care about age, I am very willing to get rid of Corey Enright.
Sorry I can't reply to you. I went over my Message hourly limit ::) ::) ::)
Quote from: JROO8 on October 06, 2012, 04:37:11 PM
Quote from: Adamant on October 06, 2012, 04:17:07 PM
Anyone wanting a defender and doesnt care about age, I am very willing to get rid of Corey Enright.
Sorry I can't reply to you. I went over my Message hourly li it ::) ::) ::)
Haha np, that happened to me a week ago ;D
I'm offered a gun in Ben Stratton. Top 5 pick is expected.
Nathan Bock is on the market if your looking for some DPP FWD/DEF versatility, would need another defender in return though. :)
Quote from: whatlez on October 06, 2012, 04:41:02 PM
I'm offered a gun in Ben Stratton. Top 5 pick is expected.
That's just a joke.
UAE Tigers and Vietnam Vipers have made a trade
UAE Tigers give: Issac Smith + Pick 10 (ND)
Vipers give: Jack Steven + Pick 37 (ND)
Quote from: JROO8 on October 06, 2012, 09:10:59 PM
UAE Tigers and Vietnam Vipers have made a trade
UAE Tigers give: Issac Smith + Pick 10 (ND)
Vipers give: Jack Steven + Pick 37 (ND)
confirmed, a bit generous of me i think but i need to draft a gun fwd, after giving up fasolo.
Quote from: Colliwobblers on October 06, 2012, 09:21:56 PM
Quote from: JROO8 on October 06, 2012, 09:10:59 PM
UAE Tigers and Vietnam Vipers have made a trade
UAE Tigers give: Issac Smith + Pick 10 (ND)
Vipers give: Jack Steven + Pick 37 (ND)
confirmed, a bit generous of me i think but i need to draft a gun fwd, after giving up fasolo.
hmmm at 10 one might slip but there are a few that could go top 10! But I think I can guess who ;)
Lets talk about SJ collie ;)
Quote from: Colliwobblers on October 06, 2012, 09:21:56 PM
Quote from: JROO8 on October 06, 2012, 09:10:59 PM
UAE Tigers and Vietnam Vipers have made a trade
UAE Tigers give: Issac Smith + Pick 10 (ND)
Vipers give: Jack Steven + Pick 37 (ND)
confirmed, a bit generous of me i think but i need to draft a gun fwd, after giving up fasolo.
APPROVED
Bangladesh Bears gives: Chris Knights + NAT Pick 18
UAE Tigers gives: NAT Pick 42 + NAT Pick 11
JROO8 to confirm.
Quote from: JBs-Hawks on October 06, 2012, 11:01:35 PM
Lets talk about SJ collie ;)
hmmmm not sure how we can work this?
Quote from: Adamant on October 06, 2012, 11:10:25 PM
Bangladesh Bears gives: Chris Knights + NAT Pick 18
UAE Tigers gives: NAT Pick 42 + NAT Pick 11
JROO8 to confirm.
Confirmed! Happy to have Knights at the Tigers!!!
Quote from: JROO8 on October 06, 2012, 11:11:30 PM
Quote from: Adamant on October 06, 2012, 11:10:25 PM
Bangladesh Bears gives: Chris Knights + NAT Pick 18
UAE Tigers gives: NAT Pick 42 + NAT Pick 11
JROO8 to confirm.
Confirmed! Happy to have Knights at the Tigers!!!
APPROVED
Guys, National pick #11 is up for grabs.
Really looking for a gun defender or mid.
e.g. Enright + Pick #11 OR Tuck + Pick #11
for for
Birchall Stanton
PM me any offers.
How much better is Barlow better than Stanton?
Quote from: whatlez on October 07, 2012, 08:58:14 PM
How much better is Barlow better than Stanton?
I would rather Stanton in this comp tbh...
Quote from: Adamant on October 07, 2012, 09:06:53 PM
Quote from: whatlez on October 07, 2012, 08:58:14 PM
How much better is Barlow better than Stanton?
I would rather Stanton in this comp tbh...
That is the difference between us two.
Quote from: whatlez on October 07, 2012, 08:58:14 PM
How much better is Barlow better than Stanton?
-18 ppg
Quote from: whatlez on October 07, 2012, 09:08:35 PM
Quote from: Adamant on October 07, 2012, 09:06:53 PM
Quote from: whatlez on October 07, 2012, 08:58:14 PM
How much better is Barlow better than Stanton?
I would rather Stanton in this comp tbh...
That is the difference between us two.
I do love Barlow (being a freo supporter), but Stanton is only like a year older and has a massive ceiling. Barlow is extremely consistent, but rarely gets over 115 DT/SC.
stanton a fantasy slut, a top 5 midfielder scorer when and if he is either LEFT FREE or learns to handle a TAG and still score.
Barlow will beat Stanton next year.
Remember Barlow has the vest twice this year... and played 22 games to Stanton's 20
Quote from: whatlez on October 07, 2012, 09:31:06 PM
Barlow will beat Stanton next year.
Remember Barlow has the vest twice this year... and played 22 games to Stanton's 20
Barlow had a slow start to the season too he finished a lot stronger than he started ( or he seemed to anyway )
still think Stanton has a higher ceiling but with Goddard in the midfield and heppell and zaka and who knows who else stepping up, even if Stanton did stay in form and consistent, you would think his possessions on the outside would take some level of a hit by these guys....
Barlow could average 115 DT tho well within him to do so.
If Barlow averages 115 DT then expect a 150+ average here :D
Quote from: whatlez on October 07, 2012, 09:31:06 PM
Barlow will beat Stanton next year.
Remember Barlow has the vest twice this year... and played 22 games to Stanton's 20
Well, he has now had 2 years to get offer his leg soreness and should be back to 2010 form.
But even if you remove his vests, he only averaged 100.7 and has a pretty low ceiling :P
I am looking for a top 10 pick for Barlow and maybe something else ;)
Pick 9 is up for trade want a good forward in return
I also want an old defender with maybe a year left Chris Newman fits the bill
Quote from: Noz on October 08, 2012, 04:26:46 PM
Pick 9 is up for trade want a good forward in return
I also want an old defender with maybe a year left Chris Newman fits the bill
Newman for pick 9?
Quote from: Noz on October 08, 2012, 04:26:46 PM
Pick 9 is up for trade want a good forward in return
I also want an old defender with maybe a year left Chris Newman fits the bill
Im very willing to get rid of Enright if you're interested?
Quote from: Adamant on October 08, 2012, 04:32:06 PM
Quote from: Noz on October 08, 2012, 04:26:46 PM
Pick 9 is up for trade want a good forward in return
I also want an old defender with maybe a year left Chris Newman fits the bill
Im very willing to get rid of Enright if you're interested?
You're meant to trade me Enright you hack :O
Quote from: Nails on October 08, 2012, 04:35:57 PM
Quote from: Adamant on October 08, 2012, 04:32:06 PM
Quote from: Noz on October 08, 2012, 04:26:46 PM
Pick 9 is up for trade want a good forward in return
I also want an old defender with maybe a year left Chris Newman fits the bill
Im very willing to get rid of Enright if you're interested?
You're meant to trade me Enright you hack :O
lol im seeing what others are willing to give up first...
Quote from: Noz on October 08, 2012, 04:26:46 PM
Pick 9 is up for trade want a good forward in return
I also want an old defender with maybe a year left Chris Newman fits the bill
Then reply to my messages :p
Rumour has it that Strikers are making strong plays for Suckling and/or Hurn :o Will keep you posted
In other news...Ryan Schoenmakers is off to the highest bidder. PM me if interested
Who would waste a list movement on shoey lol
With this new released draft pick list showing 7 rounds and 133 picks, everything changes.
http://www.fanfooty.com.au/forum/index.php/topic,66557.msg862266.html#msg862266
http://www.afl.com.au/news/newsarticle/tabid/208/newsid/148933/default.aspx
OUR AXVS National draft doesn't change, but the value of the picks in OUR rookie/preseason draft do as there will be at least a few rounds of national draft picked players left over and available for selection along with the afl picked players in the rookie and afl preseason drafts, and the players we have remaining in out initial draft.
So to update....
AXVs NATIONAL DRAFT> 4 rounds of picks from:
1. Players picked in the AFL national draft.
2. Players picked in the AFL mini draft.
3. Players prelisted by clubs in any other fassion BEFORE the 22nd Novemeber (AFL National Draft).
4. Players left in the AXVs Initial draft pool.
AXVs ROOKIE/PRESEASON DRAFT> 6 rounds of picks from:
1. Players picked in the AFL Rookie Draft.
2. Players picked in the AFL pre-season draft.
3. Players picked in the AFL National draft ( THAT WERE NOT SELECTED IN THE AXVs NATIONAL DRAFT)
4. Players prelisted or added to an AFL list in any fassion BEFORE the 14th December (AFL PreSeason Draft)
5. Players left in the AXVs Initial draft pool.
So check out the link to the update AFL pick list as you consider your strategy and potential trades.
God Tom Scully is such a bad player for Melbourne to get so many compensation picks ::)
Me and Nost are the only two to not make an official list change. And Nost is the only one to make one trade... :o
Quote from: whatlez on October 09, 2012, 12:09:39 AM
God Tom Scully is such a bad player for Melbourne to get so many compensation picks ::)
Absolutely!
Lets hav a look in 3 years what theyve got in exchange for scully, him leaving was probably the best thing for them
Australia give Steve Johnson, Pick 20 and pick 52.
Vietnam give Angus Monfries, pick 14 and pick 30.
Steve Johnson, pick 20 and pick 52
For
Pick 48 (lol), pick 14 and pick 30 haha
Anyone want Scotland?
Pick 18, 37 and 47 available if anyone wants to swap picks
Quote from: whatlez on October 09, 2012, 05:26:59 PM
Steve Johnson, pick 20 and pick 52
For
Pick 48 (lol), pick 14 and pick 30 haha
Yea because thats exactly whats hes worth as he was a free agent and was walking to Port whether they traded or through free agency ::)
Quote from: Adamant on October 09, 2012, 06:17:49 PM
Quote from: Jayman on October 09, 2012, 06:00:10 PM
Quote from: monstrum on October 09, 2012, 05:45:20 PM
Quote from: Jayman on October 09, 2012, 05:42:47 PM
Anyone want Scotland?
Yep, what u askin?
will need a back in return
Enright for Scotland?
similar age...only difference is that Scotland is a better scorer :D so nah, a straight-swap wont work mate
Might offer you something in the next transfer period.
Quote from: Jayman on October 09, 2012, 06:19:25 PM
Quote from: Adamant on October 09, 2012, 06:17:49 PM
Quote from: Jayman on October 09, 2012, 06:00:10 PM
Quote from: monstrum on October 09, 2012, 05:45:20 PM
Quote from: Jayman on October 09, 2012, 05:42:47 PM
Anyone want Scotland?
Yep, what u askin?
will need a back in return
Enright for Scotland?
similar age...only difference is that Scotland is a better scorer :D so nah, a straight-swap wont work mate
Yeah, but he will miss the first 3 games...doesnt matter.
Quote from: JBs-Hawks on October 09, 2012, 04:35:23 PM
Australia give Steve Johnson, Pick 20 and pick 52.
Vietnam give Angus Monfries, pick 14 and pick 30.
Sure you havent been drinking to many of those ale's Jb :P
No one offered anything better and I needed to upgrade my picks ;)
Fair enough and monfries might go alright :-\
Anyone want my gun 22 year olds and below?
I want Scotland Jay... work a dealio? ;)
I don't want Scotland, but I'll sell you Stratton or Gartlett lol :P :)
Wellingham running wild on the expanses of Subiaco!
;D
Quote from: JBs-Hawks on October 09, 2012, 05:49:48 PM
Quote from: whatlez on October 09, 2012, 05:26:59 PM
Steve Johnson, pick 20 and pick 52
For
Monfries, pick 14 and pick 30 haha
Yea because thats exactly whats hes worth as he was a free agent and was walking to Port whether they traded or through free agency ::)
Confirmed
APPROVEDMe I was VERY reluctant to do the deal, the picks are gold in the draft. I have a shower FWD line monfries was my #2 man behind Robbo.
The issue - Monfries should be mid only in 2014. He was pcik #14 for the record and should flourish at port.
The deal was JB's and he pushed me , I wanted better picks in return from him.
Think he has the long term win by a mile with those picks and a 35 year old. But for now i need the old boy to score for me FWD.
on wellingham, who is going to tuck buddy in at night now? Lake? :)
After many discussions with a few teams, the Llaas have finally agreed on a deal
Llamas to give
Nat pick 5, rookie pick 71
the Ales give
Nat picks 14, 30
Quote from: tbagrocks on October 09, 2012, 11:51:09 PM
After many discussions with a few teams, the Llaas have finally agreed on a deal
Llamas to give
Nat pick 5, rookie pick 71
the Ales give
Nat picks 14, 30
Confirm
That seems reasonable.
Pick 6 = Pick 17 and 33
Pick 5 = Pick 14 and 30
Pick 4 = Pick 11 and 27
Lol
I'll trade my 2nd and 3rd round picks for someones 1st round
People really arn't getting the meaning of a deap draft ::) there are ripper players right through! Yeah the top 10 or so look exeptional but there is value there!
Tbag what would pick 33 and pick 49 be worth?
15-18?
Seriously? Wow...
Is there any of my players that anyone wants who aren't elite, but mediocre?
I'll sell for mid draft picks ;)
Quote from: whatlez on October 10, 2012, 12:16:11 AM
Tbag what would pick 33 and pick 49 be worth?
What about 29 and 45?
14-16
I'd do that.
Who's got those picks?
Cw
Kk
Nails
Any of you want to trade?
Quote from: tor01doc on October 10, 2012, 12:43:54 AM
I'd do that.
Who's got those picks?
Cw
Kk
Nails
Any of you want to trade?
Tbag has 16.
16 is reserved for a very nice player ;)
So then your answers aren't necessarily correct hey (Dir-)tbag?! :D
I had players in mind before I traded to get pick 2 and 16, also 14 and 30-33 ;D
You are the GWS of Asia.
Nice work.
Quote from: tor01doc on October 10, 2012, 01:04:00 AM
You are the GWS of Asia.
Nice work.
hmmm Patton and Greene would be nice but Cameron, Dev Smith I can't complane with also Hombsch, Darley and Edwards could turn into backline junkies. lol I went after Bulldog, Power, Gold Coast and GWS players as when my team is ready so will be these clubs peeking ;D Like having Collingwood and Hawthorn players now ;)
Quote from: JBs-Hawks on October 09, 2012, 11:56:25 PM
Quote from: tbagrocks on October 09, 2012, 11:51:09 PM
After many discussions with a few teams, the Llaas have finally agreed on a deal
Llamas to give
Nat pick 5, rookie pick 71
the Ales give
Nat picks 14, 30
Confirm
APPROVED
He's ALIVE!!!!!!!!! He's Alive!!! Hmmm it looks as if the llamas might be out of trades now :P Better get ready for the draft ;D
So who has Giles and are you worried about him possably leaving?
Quote from: Jayman on October 10, 2012, 01:11:58 AM
Quote from: Nails on October 10, 2012, 01:01:20 AM
Buenos Aires Hong Kong gives:Scott D. Thompson + Nat Draft Pick 48
Jayman's team Sri Lanka gives: Scotland + Rookie pick 19
Jayman, please quote reply to confirm with your reasoning and then I'll reply with my reasoning.
CONFIRM
I think the Strikers will benefit from this trade, as we are sending off one of our older players who wont have any affect during the years im looking at a premiership. Scott D. is a solid performer and will continue to be for a number of years. Pick 48 strengthens our position in the NAT draft also. The 'Dongs' also benefit from this trade as they get one of the best averaging backs going around :)
APPROVED - JUST !!!!!!
The picks go some way to balancing the trade, and so does Scotland's significant extra years in age. I see it as a BIG win to Nails but that is just my opinion as a Scotland fan, and given that Thompson is a premium and no spud and the picks add balance this is FAR from RIDICULOUS or UNEVEN in the EXTREME.
Concerns me as Nails list continues to get older, but as I have said in my PM until someone has ruined their list/team it is not my place to tell them how to manage it. We will see how it looks in a couple of seasons as those stars start to retire, I am sure Nails will have a plan to stay competitive in the years to come with his senior citizens list ;)
That Said & For Right Now:
The odds keep shortening on the Asian Cup spending Christmas in Hong Kong in 2013 :)
Chris Newman and/or Luke McPharlin now up for trade in this window or the next, pm me offers.
Honestly when I've seen Carlton play Scotland is no where near playing in that backline, he is dead set part of the midfield rotation!
Yeah, there's a risk he'll be mid only and it'll seriously flower our plans... But he'd be a good reserves midfielder anyway.
Honk Kong have to be a chance when they wave the Asian flag in the Champions league?
Quote from: tbagrocks on October 10, 2012, 06:47:59 PM
Honk Kong have to be a chance when they wave the Asian flag in the Champions league?
Yeah they will probably whine that we have no points cap on our lists, but that won't ever change.
We need to delist to a capped number of players, cannot add drafted players each season without delisting players, likewise need to delist players to promote rookies. That is our check on teams balance, if one or more teams develop super strong lists why tell them you have to trade guns out because your team is too good?
that seems ridiculous to me?
but then we also have trade restrictions they do not, limits on movements and even sided trades ( player/pick for same number of player/pick)
and all players retire eventually so Nails can't line up those stars forever.
Still if any team drafts talent well there is no reason they cant have 15 guns on the park every week of every season.
The Llamas will have fifteen guns every week, just might be developing guns ??? Still guns though!
Will trade for rookie pick number 1 next year and acquire Lance Franklin after delisting him
lol :D
Quote from: Nails on October 10, 2012, 07:01:07 PM
Will trade for rookie pick number 1 next year and acquire Lance Franklin after delisting him
lol :D
What you gonna give me for pick 1 :P Seriously though I expect to at least be competitive with the bottom clubs!
Is it only me or is sportsbet fantasy afl down now?
It's kinda depressing because I kind of wanted to use it to count how many players are top 100 :(
or can someone pm me a list of all the players and their averages? Similar to what was up at the start of the draft...
http://sportsbet.afl.virtualsports.com.au/?p=topplayers&sort=average&position=MID
Try that mate..
Quote from: Colliwobblers on October 10, 2012, 06:53:33 PM
Quote from: tbagrocks on October 10, 2012, 06:47:59 PM
Honk Kong have to be a chance when they wave the Asian flag in the Champions league?
Yeah they will probably whine that we have no points cap on our lists, but that won't ever change.
We need to delist to a capped number of players, cannot add drafted players each season without delisting players, likewise need to delist players to promote rookies. That is our check on teams balance, if one or more teams develop super strong lists why tell them you have to trade guns out because your team is too good?
that seems ridiculous to me?
but then we also have trade restrictions they do not, limits on movements and even sided trades ( player/pick for same number of player/pick)
and all players retire eventually so Nails can't line up those stars forever.
Still if any team drafts talent well there is no reason they cant have 15 guns on the park every week of every season.
Because points cap is euqilavant to salary cap in real life hence adding tl being realistic ;)
Quote from: JBs-Hawks on October 10, 2012, 07:17:10 PM
Quote from: Colliwobblers on October 10, 2012, 06:53:33 PM
Quote from: tbagrocks on October 10, 2012, 06:47:59 PM
Honk Kong have to be a chance when they wave the Asian flag in the Champions league?
Yeah they will probably whine that we have no points cap on our lists, but that won't ever change.
We need to delist to a capped number of players, cannot add drafted players each season without delisting players, likewise need to delist players to promote rookies. That is our check on teams balance, if one or more teams develop super strong lists why tell them you have to trade guns out because your team is too good?
that seems ridiculous to me?
but then we also have trade restrictions they do not, limits on movements and even sided trades ( player/pick for same number of player/pick)
and all players retire eventually so Nails can't line up those stars forever.
Still if any team drafts talent well there is no reason they cant have 15 guns on the park every week of every season.
Because points cap is euqilavant to salary cap in real life hence adding tl being realistic ;)
Salary cap = so rich clubs can't just go buy all the best players.
Seeing as we can't just go buy players here and we have to trade, it's not really relevant IMO. Why should we have a points cap? It just punishes teams for drafting well and helps teams that are spuds at drafting. The strong teams shouldn't get punished for choosing to draft older players. We're not buying them and do not have any advantage over you at the start of the competition. That's what the real life salary cap is, to prevent rich clubs from advantaging. We don't have rich/poor clubs here. We just have clubs that drafted young/old/middle aged. Therefore a cap would be irrelevant and unfair on those who chose to go old.
Provided a cap were in from the start it may be different, but then I would have drafted different also ;)
Quote from: monstrum on October 10, 2012, 07:15:22 PM
http://sportsbet.afl.virtualsports.com.au/?p=topplayers&sort=average&position=MID
Try that mate..
Thanks mate.
12 of our 15 are in the top 100 overall averages :) And it will be 13 out of 15 if Clancee Pearce maintains F/M DPP as we can then use Roughead in the emergencies.
D - Grimes,Scotland, Gram, McPharlin
M - Montagna, Griffen, Anthony, Kelly
R - Hale (or Roughead if Pearce Keeps DPP)
F - Franklin, Pavlich, Roughead, J. Brown
Int - Kornes, Hayes
Quote from: Nails on October 10, 2012, 07:21:41 PM
Quote from: JBs-Hawks on October 10, 2012, 07:17:10 PM
Quote from: Colliwobblers on October 10, 2012, 06:53:33 PM
Quote from: tbagrocks on October 10, 2012, 06:47:59 PM
Honk Kong have to be a chance when they wave the Asian flag in the Champions league?
Yeah they will probably whine that we have no points cap on our lists, but that won't ever change.
We need to delist to a capped number of players, cannot add drafted players each season without delisting players, likewise need to delist players to promote rookies. That is our check on teams balance, if one or more teams develop super strong lists why tell them you have to trade guns out because your team is too good?
that seems ridiculous to me?
but then we also have trade restrictions they do not, limits on movements and even sided trades ( player/pick for same number of player/pick)
and all players retire eventually so Nails can't line up those stars forever.
Still if any team drafts talent well there is no reason they cant have 15 guns on the park every week of every season.
Don't waste your breath arguing, your team is the one a points cap would effect so obviously your opinion is biased
Because points cap is euqilavant to salary cap in real life hence adding tl being realistic ;)
Salary cap = so rich clubs can't just go buy all the best players.
Seeing as we can't just go buy players here and we have to trade, it's not really relevant IMO. Why should we have a points cap? It just punishes teams for drafting well and helps teams that are spuds at drafting. The strong teams shouldn't get punished for choosing to draft older players. We're not buying them and do not have any advantage over you at the start of the competition. That's what the real life salary cap is, to prevent rich clubs from advantaging. We don't have rich/poor clubs here. We just have clubs that drafted young/old/middle aged. Therefore a cap would be irrelevant and unfair on those who chose to go old.
Provided a cap were in from the start it may be different, but then I would have drafted different also ;)
Salary cap = so rich teams can't dominate like premier league.
There's no such advantage in this competition therefore a cap would be pointless. Why should one coach be punished if others were too stupid to select the best players available?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ffJvDgBrwMI&feature=player_embedded
Found this in ESPN NBA Fantasyworld. Catchy or what?
World's play with a cap right?
Competition is really heating up for the services of Rhys Palmer using Rookie picks, get in quick if you still are interested! If not, a deal should be finalized soon! :)
Quote from: Nails on October 10, 2012, 08:12:58 PM
Salary cap = so rich teams can't dominate like premier league.
There's no such advantage in this competition therefore a cap would be pointless. Why should one coach be punished if others were too stupid to select the best players available?
Yeh u said it for me nails, i don't see the point of a cap.... :-\
I have picks 18 + 37 + 47 in the National Draft.
Willing to trade them all for a first round draft pick + rookie picks. Pm if your Intrested 8)
basically a salary cap is a salary cap, keeping that real to AFL means paying key forwards the most a few mids big and rucks and key defenders large and everyone else is thereabouts....
don't worlds do it on scoring of fantasy points - totally NOT relevant to an AFL salary cap?
Means Zorko and Gibson, neither who will earn huge money for 2 or 3 more seasons at least, would be considered in worlds to be "elite paid due to their scoring"
I'm not sure how they work it all out, if we become very imbalanced in future seasons we will have to look at working balances into the rules.
but if you ask me, if we do (teams) become imbalanced in the future it will be because certain teams are run better than others, or certain strategies are working better than others.
that and the imbalances that go with it are VERY prevalent in the AFL.
LET ME KNOW IF I HAVE MISSED ANY TRADES, HAVE UPDATED ALL I HAVE APPROVED ON THE FRONT PAGE, AND ALSO UPDATED LIST MOVEMENTS TALLY, UPDATED NAT AND ROOK PICK LISTS, UPDATED TEAM LISTS.
Eskimos Give: Rhys Palmer
Ales Give: Rookie Pick 4
JB to confirm! :)
Quote from: KoopKicka on October 11, 2012, 05:36:55 PM
Eskimos Give: Rhys Palmer
Ales Give: Rookie Pick 4
JB to confirm! :)
Confirm.
Reasoning, he's a shower player but basically getting him for free.
:o That couldn't go through? Well good luck with it!
Yeah how much I do not rate Palmer, that is pretty uneven.
Rookie Pick 4 will get you someone who didn't get picked in the first 500+ picks....
In koops defence he can snap up a mature aged rookie and it also opens up a list movement for him ;)
Not that i would protest on anyones trade i couldnt care less value ur players as u like... Just curious. Is it rook pick #4 or round # 4..?
Pick #4
That's pretty shower. Won't even get Moller for that ;)
yeah that trade should be our first vote, i rate plamer took him pick 16 in initial draft and even though i dont know what kk's plan is, thats a rediculouse trade.
KK, do you really think that the player you take with pick 4, will be as good as Rhys Palmer ???
Crazy...
maybe swap some other picks around guys try make it look a little bit fair ;)
Quote from: picker_man on October 11, 2012, 06:48:22 PM
yeah that trade should be our first vote, i rate plamer took him pick 16 in initial draft and even though i dont know what kk's plan is, thats a rediculouse trade.
Weren't you complaining about people commenting on trades :P
tbh rookie picks are underrated...
The rookie draft after 2001 super draft:
Carrazzo, Mark Jamar, Bret Thornton, Quentin Lynch, Matthew Boyd, Nathan Bock, Aaron Sandilands, Ben Rutten, Martin Mattner.
Rookie draft picks are like gold.
Quote from: JBs-Hawks on October 11, 2012, 07:02:46 PM
Quote from: picker_man on October 11, 2012, 06:48:22 PM
yeah that trade should be our first vote, i rate plamer took him pick 16 in initial draft and even though i dont know what kk's plan is, thats a rediculouse trade.
Weren't you complaining about people commenting on trades :P
sure was before the rules were changed though ;)
so who you giving me for rookie 6 then nails.....
Anyone want rookie #3
???
Sure. Thanks jayman.
Put it through colli :)
When did voting come into it? And ppeople can stop complaining about it there were 4-5 teams bidding and I was the highest bidder so obviously it is fair.
Hartlett + Nat 22 can go in a combo offer this trade period for 2 older guys if interested PM me ;)
Quote from: JBs-Hawks on October 11, 2012, 05:38:05 PM
Quote from: KoopKicka on October 11, 2012, 05:36:55 PM
Eskimos Give: Rhys Palmer
Ales Give: Rookie Pick 4
JB to confirm! :)
Confirm.
Reasoning, he's a shower player but basically getting him for free.
CANCELLED BY TRADING PARTY/PARTIES.Not anyones place to vote or suggest voting on trades, we will not change the rules mid trade window.
The rules were never changed have not been and will not be, it was always to be for me to Approve or reject trades.
All I have done over the period is send out a PM to all coaches to explain the spirit and guidelines in which I will make those decisions.
This trade would not have passed. Even had it not been cancelled, which it was before I was required to make a ruling.
A rookie pick for an established player of Palmers ability is EXTREME UNEVEN.
Had it have been a national pick even as low as 40 I would have had to let it pass, reluctantly but that would have been enough to drag it out of the EXTREME UNEVEN category which requires a trade to be blocked.
Happy for both parties to renegotiate the trade, but as I said I was informed by parties involved in the trade that it was cancelled before I had to rule on it.
This is not the first time I have been advised trades proposed and or agreed to have been cancelled in this trade window either, it has happened several times.
I am not sure what I will do if a trade is attempted to be canceled AFTER I APPROVE IT.
But I have so far in EVERY CASE, allowed any trade to be cancelled by trading parties BEFORE I rule on it.
Not sure what peoples thoughts on this are but I used the same logic as changing your pick in the draft before the next person picked.
I would imagine agreeing to trades then changing your mind would somewhat damage your reputation, but I also understand we have young people, inexperienced people in this competition, and I would prefer people annoy others by changing their minds than be locked into a deal they don't want by not changing their minds when they feel they should.....
Remember Palmer was a rising star winner ;)
::) lol what a spud now...
Quote from: whatlez on October 11, 2012, 09:11:16 PM
Remember Palmer was a rising star winner ;)
::) lol what a spud now...
Not the greatest season for Palmer still take out the sub-effected games and you have a player averaging well over 100ppg, not about to allow him to be traded fro a rookie pick and claim it not EXTREME UNEVEN.
Still I must reiterate, this trade never had the chance to be blocked it was cancelled.15 Games.
9 100+ Scores including 2 x 130+ , 2 x 120+ , 3 x 110+
High 136. Low 17. (Sub effected)
Average 97.
IN a team that got smashed most weeks and that will get better so will he. Should be a lock for a 120 average next season, in this competition it will be incredibly unlikely you will draft a rookie to score the same next season.
Gonna have to prove you wrong then. Come at me 2013 Barlow!!!
So what hind of pick would get Palmer then?
Quote from: tbagrocks on October 11, 2012, 09:50:54 PM
So what hind of pick would get Palmer then?
I don't want to say in advance what can and can't be done but realistically you would think around nat #40 upwards to about pick #10, anything above might be just an uneven as anything below 40.
Its really hard to say tho, even in sprtsbet a 97 average player who had two 50's and a 17, so reallly is a 105-110 average player is just too much for a rookie pick.
BUT AGAIN I MUST REITERATE - I DID NOT BLOCK THE TRADE, IT WAS CANCELLED. I am loathe to block any trade unless it is totally and obviously extremely uneven.
Even after 26 and a half beers from various boutique microbreweries and after losing tennis this seems a very good decision by cw.
Quote from: tor01doc on October 12, 2012, 02:23:12 AM
Quote from: Adamant on October 12, 2012, 02:20:58 AM
Done deal :)
Enright + Pick 11
for
Waters + Pick 58
Will let Colli know via PM, and will put it up in the trade thread tommorow.
Yes colliwobbler. Pass this deal.
APPROVED
trade is even enough both premiums, but waters is significantly younger so better pick comes with the older enright, pretty clear its even enough.
Anybody with a Birchall type backman around age 25 or younger that is available for trade, please throw me a PM.
Offering Tom Liberatore and Josh Caddy, as well as Picks.
We are also Searching for either Pick 1 or 2 in the Draft.
Quote from: Maca24 on October 12, 2012, 05:00:49 PM
Anybody with a Birchall type backman around age 25 or younger that is available for trade, please throw me a PM.
Offering Tom Liberatore and Josh Caddy, as well as Picks.
We are also Searching for either Pick 1 or 2 in the Draft.
Good luck.
I'm offering enough, surely I can land one :P
Yep definitely worthy of a top 10 backmen
You need something big to get Whitfield off me.
James Kelly is equal to pick 16
Nathan Foley is equal to pick 11 (who is like worse than Kelly... lol)
So pick 1 is equal to a Trent Cotchin or something around that.
I'm out of that race, 1 I have no list movements left so would have to wait for window #2, but more so the best I have back is Dempsey Howard and Myers :o
I have obviously nothing much worth picks either WHatlez, best I got is #10 not sure what I paid for that a fair bit i think but I'm keeping it :)
is an exciting draft that awaits us, hard to value picks, but when you do think Tyson, Greene, Coniglio, Patton, Caddy, the list goes on, get the right high draft pick players and the value is extremely high.
this year is supposed to be even more that way...
GET flowerED
I WANTED WATERS YOU DOG.
'Most everyone did. :-\
The Elephants have:
2008 Number One Draft Pick
2010 Number One Draft Pick
2011 Number One Draft Pick
2012 Number One draft Pick
:o :o :o
Could also have 2009 Number One Draft Pick, but he is a spud and don't rate. I have also been offered him at some time :o
Get Tambling! ;D
yeah nice Whatlez my British side has about 25 first round draft picks it's a bit young but the potential is there, thats a good number of pick #1's you have from recent years....
A defender who averages 100 is great but one who averages 99 is just as good Nathan Grima is officially on the trade table.
Quote from: Noz on October 12, 2012, 07:17:31 PM
A defender who averages 100 is great but one who averages 99 is just as good Nathan Grima is officially on the trade table.
INTERESTED
Quote from: Jayman on October 12, 2012, 07:29:55 PM
Quote from: Noz on October 12, 2012, 07:17:31 PM
A defender who averages 100 is great but one who averages 99 is just as good Nathan Grima is officially on the trade table.
INTERESTED
semi interested, i would have to ontrade one of my star mid recruits or stevie j to get grima, and that would involve me securing better draft picks with your grima, as i rate my daisy and steviej higher, but not out of the question... if you need a mid or the best forward in teh competiition. yeah yeah buddy who? taylor what?
Quote from: whatlez on October 12, 2012, 05:40:03 PM
You need something big to get Whitfield off me.
James Kelly is equal to pick 16
Nathan Foley is equal to pick 11 (who is like worse than Kelly... lol)
So pick 1 is equal to a Trent Cotchin or something around that.
Not quite sure I see your logic there...
In worlds (SC) Jonathan Giles was traded for Pick 5.
yeah depends what you need as to what something is worth.
one thing is for sure, key fwds key defenders and ruckmen are total fantasy SPUDS for years, but they go VERY HIGH in national drafts for a reason....
finding one who will become ELITE is very very hard.
picks can't just be measured against a players fantasy average points for value, so much more to it...
But Whatlez makes a point certain trades for picks have been varied in quality ( or perceived quality), but this is ok as only trades that are EXTREMELY RIDICULOUSLY UNEVEN get blocked so there will be a variety of deals go through, and some we will wonder at and some we will agree with.
I'm just saying, but Cotchin for Pick 1 would deserve to get negged.
Cotchin is probably worth two Top 5 picks. Cotchin is a proven star, is young, and was selection 5 in the Asians Draft.
Two top 5 picks are certainly no guarantees to get halfway to Cotchins scoring ability.
Quote from: Maca24 on October 13, 2012, 02:13:15 AM
I'm just saying, but Cotchin for Pick 1 would deserve to get negged.
Cotchin is probably worth two Top 5 picks. Cotchin is a proven star, is young, and was selection 5 in the Asians Draft.
Two top 5 picks are certainly no guarantees to get halfway to Cotchins scoring ability.
no elite player would get approval to be traded for any draft pick. not ever.
an old premium is very different to an ELITE ( which cotchin is )
so yeah i agree with you 100% :)
I don't know how many first round draft picks the Llamas have but at a guess close to 30 :o
Quote from: Maca24 on October 12, 2012, 11:36:25 PM
Quote from: whatlez on October 12, 2012, 05:40:03 PM
You need something big to get Whitfield off me.
James Kelly is equal to pick 16
Nathan Foley is equal to pick 11 (who is like worse than Kelly... lol)
So pick 1 is equal to a Trent Cotchin or something around that.
Not quite sure I see your logic there...
In worlds (SC) Jonathan Giles was traded for Pick 5.
Giles is pretty good. So for 4 picks better, you te a genuine superstar lol
The Folders are still interested in looking at a high scoring defender, not really fussed on age at the moment. We have extra forwards and a few mids available for trade as well as draft picks if anyone is interested.
Edit: Just to add a bit more to that, I would be looking at defenders who avg 100+ and I would be more inclined to trade players who don't have a place in my best XV and/or draft picks.
I am actually interested in some picks in 25-40 area.
Also a few of top 10 picks in addition would be nice :)
Most players on the table. Might post later a specific list.
Since my current negotiator is being difficult, Pendles is officially on the market. :)
Quote from: KoopKicka on October 13, 2012, 11:39:53 PM
Since my current negotiator is being difficult, Pendles is officially on the market. :)
hold the phones !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
make me a deal but OH my I am out of list movements. I have Beams and Daisy oh to top it off with pendles and seedsman once he breaks out and start an all pies midifeld would be Delicious!
seriously tho i would pay well for pendles, no list movements left but i have stevie j and some mids i traded in that i can on trade, and i have some picks in the national draft...
or perhaps we can pencil a deal for trade window #2.
Quote from: KoopKicka on October 13, 2012, 11:39:53 PM
Since my current negotiator is being difficult, Pendles is officially on the market. :)
:o like what the flower pot :o
Pick 6 is on the table. I am looking for a GREAT player for him.
Quote from: whatlez on October 14, 2012, 12:12:21 AM
Pick 6 is on the table. I am looking for a GREAT player for him.
You overvalue it.
Quote from: Maca24 on October 14, 2012, 01:25:06 PM
Quote from: whatlez on October 14, 2012, 12:12:21 AM
Pick 6 is on the table. I am looking for a GREAT player for him.
You overvalue it.
Yeah I do, but if Nathan Foley is equal to pick 10 then pick 6 should get a 120 ave midfielder...
Yea but you can't compare previous trades, that's what the supply and demand was at that time.
Quote from: JBs-Hawks on October 14, 2012, 04:54:49 PM
Yea but you can't compare previous trades, that's what the supply and demand was at that time.
Yeah you can.
Quote from: whatlez on October 14, 2012, 04:57:24 PM
Quote from: JBs-Hawks on October 14, 2012, 04:54:49 PM
Yea but you can't compare previous trades, that's what the supply and demand was at that time.
Yeah you can.
no you can't.
Nobody is saying that Foley was worth pick 6. Just because 2 people agreed on doesn't mean everyone agrees ::)
Foley is equal to pick 11.
Gives me an indication on how much these picks are worth.
In Euros Barlow was a straight swap for pick one :o
Quote from: whatlez on October 14, 2012, 05:34:17 PM
Foley is equal to pick 11.
Gives me an indication on how much these picks are worth.
In Euros Barlow was a straight swap for pick one :o
Its hard to say a select amount.
But Whitfield has a fair bit of worth.
"toot" With all the talant in the first round why is Whitefield so much better? I doubt he is!
A big has been made by the Elephants.
Whatlez has thrown, Walker, Barlow, Jroo and Barlow and Pick 1 onto the trade table.
Quote from: whatlez on October 14, 2012, 08:04:24 PM
A big has been made by the Elephants.
Whatlez has thrown, Walker, Barlow, Jroo and Barlow and Pick 1 onto the trade table.
I don't know what you are hoping to get but I will go into the contest for walker and pick #1
Forgot to say.
Super Preium Mid under age of 25.
Shaun Grigg is on the table if anyone wants him? He is a 128 average mid and at the age of 24, still improving.
Looking for a GUN back in return
Goes to have dinner
Nek Minnut
7 unread PM's :o
Hit the Pm's for the hour and will have to wait until about 7:10 until I can send another message lol ::)
Sorry Tbag... and others...
Quote from: Jayman on October 14, 2012, 08:15:02 PM
Shaun Grigg is on the table if anyone wants him? He is a 128 average mid and at the age of 24, still improving.
Looking for a GUN back in return
i will give u garrick ibbotson
Quote from: monstrum on October 14, 2012, 08:50:23 PM
Quote from: Jayman on October 14, 2012, 08:15:02 PM
Shaun Grigg is on the table if anyone wants him? He is a 128 average mid and at the age of 24, still improving.
Looking for a GUN back in return
i will give u garrick ibbotson
haha
Serious, i will
Beau Waters is up for trade!
Looking for a gun mid under 27/28yo.
e.g. Waters + Cross/Tuck/Hodge
for
Young defender + Gun Mid
Birchall and Breust up for sale looking for a top 3 mid forward and defender. Willing to also package Milne to get the trade done.
What the flower pot is going on!! Waters, Grigg, Birchell, fridge the Llamas may be winning premierships sooner than expected ::)
Quote from: tbagrocks on October 14, 2012, 09:45:57 PM
What the flower pot is going on!! Waters, Grigg, Birchell, fridge the Llamas may be winning premierships sooner than expected ::)
Dont forget Pendles, Barlow & Tex.
Maybe plan and draft better next time ::) I went short on mids and went after backs and forwards ;D
Quote from: JBs-Hawks on October 14, 2012, 09:39:04 PM
Birchall and Breust up for sale looking for a top 3 mid forward and defender. Willing to also package Milne to get the trade done.
INTERESTED
Quote from: Adamant on October 14, 2012, 09:33:28 PM
Beau Waters is up for trade!
Looking for a gun mid under 27/28yo.
e.g. Waters + Tuck
for
Young defender + Gun Mid
Will PM you in a sec, pretty keen :D
Quote from: Adamant on October 14, 2012, 08:51:48 PM
Quote from: monstrum on October 14, 2012, 08:50:23 PM
Quote from: Jayman on October 14, 2012, 08:15:02 PM
Shaun Grigg is on the table if anyone wants him? He is a 128 average mid and at the age of 24, still improving.
Looking for a GUN back in return
i will give u garrick ibbotson
haha
flower off! haha
Quote from: tbagrocks on October 14, 2012, 09:51:08 PM
Maybe plan and draft better next time ::) I went short on mids and went after backs and forwards ;D
I didn't get to draft :'(
www.ffelitechat.webs.com
If anyone wants to come on and talk trades ???
Quote from: tbagrocks on October 14, 2012, 09:51:08 PM
Maybe plan and draft better next time ::) I went short on mids and went after backs and forwards ;D
Coming from the spoon winner of 2013 ::)
Pick 9 is on the trade table to secure a gun forward, My 2nd round pick is also on the market if a package deal is to be done to secure a gun forward.
Quote from: KoopKicka on October 15, 2012, 08:27:53 PM
Quote from: Jayman on October 15, 2012, 08:27:20 PM
Jayman Gives: NAT pick 35 + NAT Pick 48 + Rook pick 35
Koop gives: Rhys Palmer + NAT Pick 45 + Rook Pick 15
Reasoning: I feel this trade is properly balanced. Pick 35 will be a very good player, and perhaps better than Palmer - the other 2 pick swaps balance this out.
confirmed.
APPROVED
I don't like it, but I don't have to like it and nor does anybody else, it is not extremely uneven so there is no grounds to block it.
terrible trade for koop...
I would've been willing to straight swap pick 32 for Palmer.
Palmer struggled in his 1st year at GWS...
But GAJ wasn't @ his best in his first year at GCS....
Palmer could come super good :o
Hard to say what 35 will get him but it could go either way, not uneven until palmer smashes it, OR until palmer flops and pick 35 smashed it.
can't know if it is even slightly uneven YET. I suspect Palmer has gone for a song but I think pick #35 won't disappoint either....
Not sure you can compare Palmer to Gary...
Conformation on the official list from the Gazelles on who is up for trade.
Daniel Kerr
Dion Prestia
Jordan Russell
Easton Wood
Pick #9
National Draft Pick Order Updated ( AFL DRAFT )
http://www.fanfooty.com.au/forum/index.php/topic,66557.msg862266.html#msg862266
http://www.afl.com.au/news/newsarticle/tabid/208/newsid/148933/default.aspx
Still looking for a super prem midfielder who is under 25. Not many around haha
Everyone is on the table except Redden.
ARRRRRRRRRRr
Internet @ Home has gone kaput. It should recover my days end surely... No idea why it's down.
If we're currently in negotiations for a player, please don't trade him to another club without speaking to me first! I should be back soon :(
Having to use McDonald's internet :( lol
Quote from: whatlez on October 17, 2012, 02:31:32 PM
Still looking for a super prem midfielder who is under 25. Not many around haha
Everyone is on the table except Redden.
So what exactly are you going to giveup for the super midfielder then?
Quote from: whatlez on October 17, 2012, 02:31:32 PM
Still looking for a super prem midfielder who is under 25. Not many around haha
Everyone is on the table except Redden.
You can Shuey for Taylor Walker and Pick 1
^ Lol Shuey is massively overrated.
U can hav callan ward for goldstein and pick#1
Quote from: monstrum on October 17, 2012, 06:36:27 PM
U can hav callan ward for goldstein and pick#1
Premium.
Quote from: monstrum on October 17, 2012, 06:36:27 PM
U can hav callan ward for goldstein and pick#1
I'm intersted in Ward
Quote from: monstrum on October 17, 2012, 06:36:27 PM
U can hav callan ward for goldstein and pick#1
Sorry Mons Goldy isnt moving. Him and swallow the best roos in this comp by miles.
Quote from: whatlez on October 17, 2012, 06:44:44 PM
Quote from: monstrum on October 17, 2012, 06:36:27 PM
U can hav callan ward for goldstein and pick#1
Premium.
So ur thinking: cotchin, deledio, danger, beams, marc murphy. That about it?
Quote from: monstrum on October 17, 2012, 06:52:09 PM
Quote from: whatlez on October 17, 2012, 06:44:44 PM
Quote from: monstrum on October 17, 2012, 06:36:27 PM
U can hav callan ward for goldstein and pick#1
Premium.
So ur thinking: cotchin, deledio, danger, beams, marc murphy. That about it?
Yeah. Where's Pendles?
U said under 25 he'll b 25 in jan..
Barlow will be 25 by next season...
Good to know
Picks 18,37 and 47 are up for trade if anyone's Intrested.
Is Gaff premium enough for you Lez? He is only 20 also.....
SUPER
For Pick 18 I am Intrested in a few late ND picks + early rookie picks if anyone's Intrested me message me
Feel like trading. I have pick 18,37 and 47 if anyones Intrested and look at my team if there is anyone your Intrested for trade period 2
Interested to see what gun backs people would give up for Conca.
PM me :)
Not many PM's Jay?
Conca averages 95!
A spud gun!! ;D
Quote from: tor01doc on October 21, 2012, 06:02:42 PM
Not many PM's Jay?
Conca averages 95!
A spud gun!! ;D
he's only 20... ::)
In his debut year I had 60$ on Conca to win the rising star....
Was never going to win it.
Proof - look at the names of 5 the last 7 winners -
Danyle
Daniel
Daniel
Dyson
Daniel.
Now, Daniel Conca - could be a gun!
Quote from: tor01doc on October 21, 2012, 09:57:52 PM
Was never going to win it.
Proof - look at the names of 5 the last 7 winners -
Danyle
Daniel
Daniel
Dyson
Daniel.
Now, Daniel Conca - could be a gun!
Dayle Garlett for 2013 rising star then?
Quote from: JBs-Hawks on October 21, 2012, 10:01:29 PM
Quote from: tor01doc on October 21, 2012, 09:57:52 PM
Was never going to win it.
Proof - look at the names of 5 the last 7 winners -
Danyle
Daniel
Daniel
Dyson
Daniel.
Now, Daniel Conca - could be a gun!
Dayle Garlett for 2013 rising star then?
Maybe Dom Tyson if he still qualifies?
I reckon if he were my kid, I would've named him Tom Dyson rather than Dom Tyson.
Anyone want to trade?
All my players + picks are available for trade at the right price
Here is my team thread
http://www.fanfooty.com.au/forum/index.php/topic,68409.0.html
Pick 35 is on sale, I am looking for a decent forward depth player in return. :)
Quote from: JROO8 on October 22, 2012, 08:32:35 PM
Anyone want to trade?
All my players + picks are available for trade at the right price
Here is my team thread
http://www.fanfooty.com.au/forum/index.php/topic,68409.0.html
You don't have any movements left? .
Quote from: JBs-Hawks on October 22, 2012, 09:23:23 PM
Quote from: JROO8 on October 22, 2012, 08:32:35 PM
Anyone want to trade?
All my players + picks are available for trade at the right price
Here is my team thread
http://www.fanfooty.com.au/forum/index.php/topic,68409.0.html
You don't have any movements left? .
Meant Next trade period
So 2 fine upstanding citizens who barrack for the mighty Hawks have agreed to terms regarding the following trade...
Taiwan Dolphins receive a much needed midfield boost and hopefully a good rookie type by getting Matt Rosa and Rookie 4.
Unfortunately Pick 13 in the National Draft and 29 in the Rookie Draft have been sent off shore in a big fat container to Australia.
Thanks to all and colliwobbler as well.
All out of trades now this period so off to NBA land to get another trade fix! ;D
Quote from: tor01doc on October 24, 2012, 12:02:17 PM
So 2 fine upstanding citizens who barrack for the mighty Hawks have agreed to terms regarding the following trade...
Taiwan Dolphins receive a much needed midfield boost and hopefully a good rookie type by getting Matt Rosa and Rookie 4.
Unfortunately Pick 13 in the National Draft and 29 in the Rookie Draft have been sent off shore in a big fat container to Australia.
Thanks to all and colliwobbler as well.
All out of trades now this period so off to NBA land to get another trade fix! ;D
Quote from: JBs-Hawks on October 24, 2012, 11:30:49 AM
Quote from: tor01doc on October 24, 2012, 09:16:06 AM
Good man.
So in summary
Rosa and rookie pick 4 move to the slightly humid Taiwanese capital of Taipei.
In exchange, national 13 and rookie 29 (I think it's 29 but cw will know) get shipped in a big container back to Australia.
This shores up the Dolphin's mids but leaves them a bit short in years to come but due to circumstances outside the current management's control, these painful deals need to be done.
Who would have picked N Lower so early?! ::)
Thanks JB and cw.
Confirmed
APPROVED
Super draft come at me
CHECK THE DRAFT PAGES GUYS WHEN YOU CAN !!!!
NATIONAL DRAFT NOT FAR WAY ABOUT 4 WEEKS !!!!
NEED TO MAKE SURE I HAVE NOT MISSED ANY TRADES AND THAT ALL YOUR PICKS AND YOUR LISTS ARE CORRECT !!!!!
Trades & Movements: http://www.fanfooty.com.au/forum/index.php/topic,68159.msg893178.html#msg893178
Pick Order: http://www.fanfooty.com.au/forum/index.php/topic,68159.msg893179.html#msg893179
Team Lists: http://www.fanfooty.com.au/forum/index.php/topic,68159.msg893180.html#msg893180
So close on so many deals but none got over the line lately so i still have 2 list movements left
Who wants some QUALITY youth and likes package deals......
Scooter Selwood + Hartlett + Nat 22 for 3 older QUALITY players
My game plan for round 1 - you are 'mutton dressed up as...', my friend!
Pick 35 is still on the table, would need a reliable depth forward in return. :)
Quote from: tor01doc on October 24, 2012, 11:02:03 PM
My game plan for round 1 - you are 'mutton dressed up as...', my friend!
Did you know you had a 'scrag end'?
I assume because that is of a lamb its directed at me but i have no idea what your on about lol
Go back a page pickers - if you dare!
Kathmandu Recieve: Shannon Byrnes and Nosts 4th round pick NAT
Bangkok Receive: NAT picks 35 and 48
Nostradamus to confirm.
Quote from: KoopKicka on October 25, 2012, 03:08:15 PM
Kathmandu Recieve: Shannon Byrnes and Nosts 4th round pick NAT
Bangkok Receive: NAT picks 35 and 48
Nostradamus to confirm.
Confirmed 8)
The Australian Ales will not be listening to any trade talks til December 1st.
Quote from: JBs-Hawks on October 25, 2012, 11:07:30 PM
The Australian Ales will not be listening to any trade talks til December 1st.
Thats cool Jb aslong as you read mine and reply instead im happy :P
Quote from: nostradamus on October 25, 2012, 03:12:00 PM
Quote from: KoopKicka on October 25, 2012, 03:08:15 PM
Kathmandu Recieve: Shannon Byrnes and Nosts 4th round pick NAT
Bangkok Receive: NAT picks 35 and 48
Nostradamus to confirm.
Confirmed 8)
APPROVED
Is that your reliable fwd backup KK lol :P Atleast bangkok is on the board :)
Why no spud wanna confirm a deal with me errrrr..... I'll think about...... Thats nice but no more thinking more trading ;D
Okay back on line and ready to trade, If you have submitted a trade to me please re send it, The Gazelles are re-opening their trade period.
Also please PM me any trades NOT APPROVED YET, and any future trades, just to make sure i get them all, usy looking for a new job the next few weeks.
scary but needed a change anyway and a change always means more $ :)
just PM me so I don't miss anything thanks
What more $$ to upgrade the merc to a lambo? :P
Quote from: JBs-Hawks on October 29, 2012, 09:56:28 PM
What more $$ to upgrade the merc to a lambo? :P
it's wishful thinking :) best to be positive no one likes a whiner it's quite unAustralian :) the merc is a baby merc a landcruiser or hsv ute will cost you a fair bit more than my little car :)
TRADE WINDOW #1 WILL OFFICIALLY CLOSE AT MIDNIGHT AEST THIS SUNDAY THE 11TH NOVEMBER 2012.
All coaches have been notified by PM.
Following this date the final AXVs draft orders will be posted on the DRAFT thread and the Draft dates will be set.
Quote from: picker_man on November 06, 2012, 12:17:14 PM
Quote from: JROO8 on November 06, 2012, 12:06:37 PM
Ok Colli we have a deal done
TRADE PERIOD 1
JROO8 gives Picks Nat 47 + Rookie 42 + Rookie 58
Picker_Man gives Picks Nat 22 + Rookie 6 + Rookie 86
APPROVED ( WITH TRADE IN WINDOW #2 TAKEN INTO CONSIDERATION )
TRADE PERIOD 2
JROO8 gives Andrew Carrazzo + Ryan O'Keefe
Picker_Man gives Shaun Higgins + Hamish Hartlett
picker_man to confirm
Yep i confirm this CW :) thanks.
Eww what are you thinking pickers.
Quote from: JBs-Hawks on November 06, 2012, 10:11:30 PM
Eww what are you thinking pickers.
He looks to be thinking of mixing it with the first year premiership challengers. Got two far better players but long term the win probably goes to jroo8, still it is all dependant on how you look at and what you place value on....
not uneven enough to block in any case. both happy with the outcome.
Pickers, you do realize Carrazzo and O'Keefe are both pure mids... :o
Quote from: Adamant on November 06, 2012, 10:36:24 PM
Pickers, you do realize Carrazzo and O'Keefe are both pure mids... :o
do you actually think they will be? i seriously doubt it, ROK should be a FWD/MID he only rotates through the middle still used fwd a LOT and will be more so the older he gets.
with Gibbs slated for much more mid time carrots will get the defensive jobs on fwds that gibbs did this season, malthouse has already done an article on his plans for gibbs, at carrots age he is a tagger / dangerous fwd locker downer till the end now i would think he should be DEF/MID
Quote from: Colliwobblers on November 06, 2012, 10:47:59 PM
Quote from: Adamant on November 06, 2012, 10:36:24 PM
Pickers, you do realize Carrazzo and O'Keefe are both pure mids... :o
do you actually think they will be? i seriously doubt it, ROK should be a FWD/MID he only rotates through the middle still used fwd a LOT and will be more so the older he gets.
with Gibbs slated for much more mid time carrots will get the defensive jobs on fwds that gibbs did this season, malthouse has already done an article on his plans for gibbs, at carrots age he is a tagger / dangerous fwd locker downer till the end now i would think he should be DEF/MID
They are both listed as pure mids on the Fanplanner.
Champion data only base positions on the players previous season, not on what the coaches say or articles, etc.
ROK is a small chance, but I never saw Carrots play in defence once. Oh well, Pickers could always chuck them in as utilities...
Hartlett went up in value due to DPP, not lose value?!?!
And I dont understand why jroo gets pick compo? Trying to even up the drafting after the team jroo was handed? :p
Quote from: JBs-Hawks on November 06, 2012, 11:15:41 PM
And I dont understand why jroo gets pick compo? Trying to even up the drafting after the team jroo was handed? :p
I guess guaranteed high scoring elite players such as rok and carrots demand a very high price and rightfuly so, mind you if carrots does go mid only his value is less.
I was close to a deal with pickers on stevie j and scotty T but i valued those old ducks too highly for his liking :)
so yeah it depends what you want as to what is fair and even. I needed the old guys to have any chance of mixing it with the best next season, pickers wanted them to be more able to compete immediately, obviously JRoo8 is taking a longer term approach and while he got a good deal, he also gave up 2 superstars in the deal, and there are only so many superstars available and 16 teams of us :)
Quote from: whatlez on November 06, 2012, 11:13:43 PM
Hartlett went up in value due to DPP, not lose value?!?!
Hamish will be one of the best players out of SA this decade ;)
Your all spuds no wanted to trade in Hartlett but now you all love him ??? I dont care i wanted okeefe + carrots or steviej + thompson and sent the boys heaps of offers so im happy i got a deal done :) + picks dont really interest me
and lol to the spuds going of fan planner..... ::)
spuds may be a little harsh and fan planner is a nice tool..
but i'm having to agree with pickers on this one. On both fronts.
Yeah, dont call me a spud :-[ nah jokes.
We'll see when the official prices and positions are released in December ;)
Anyone Intrested in Sandilands or Dempster (2nd trade period) Looking for youth.
Messgae me if your Intrested
Also not really keen on trading Hartlett or Deledio, BUT if I got the right offer I could move them on so message me if your Intrested :o
Quote from: Colliwobblers on November 06, 2012, 10:47:59 PM
Quote from: Adamant on November 06, 2012, 10:36:24 PM
Pickers, you do realize Carrazzo and O'Keefe are both pure mids... :o
do you actually think they will be? i seriously doubt it, ROK should be a FWD/MID he only rotates through the middle still used fwd a LOT and will be more so the older he gets.
with Gibbs slated for much more mid time carrots will get the defensive jobs on fwds that gibbs did this season, malthouse has already done an article on his plans for gibbs, at carrots age he is a tagger / dangerous fwd locker downer till the end now i would think he should be DEF/MID
Yeah carrots im almost 100% will be mid only. ROK more likely than not mid only too, he is a shot a F/M status.
Seems like a real one side trade in my eyes
to me its the 26th and 40th best mid (i took out the 1) for the 8th best back and 40th best forward. Add to that the huge age difference.
Hartlett just has way too much value now he is a back. To be honest Hartlett is almost worth both
Quote from: Holzman on November 08, 2012, 10:42:23 PM
Quote from: Colliwobblers on November 06, 2012, 10:47:59 PM
Quote from: Adamant on November 06, 2012, 10:36:24 PM
Pickers, you do realize Carrazzo and O'Keefe are both pure mids... :o
do you actually think they will be? i seriously doubt it, ROK should be a FWD/MID he only rotates through the middle still used fwd a LOT and will be more so the older he gets.
with Gibbs slated for much more mid time carrots will get the defensive jobs on fwds that gibbs did this season, malthouse has already done an article on his plans for gibbs, at carrots age he is a tagger / dangerous fwd locker downer till the end now i would think he should be DEF/MID
Yeah carrots im almost 100% will be mid only. ROK more likely than not mid only too, he is a shot a F/M status.
Seems like a real one side trade in my eyes
to me its the 26th and 40th best mid (i took out the 1) for the 8th best back and 40th best forward. Add to that the huge age difference.
Hartlett just has way too much value now he is a back. To be honest Hartlett is almost worth both
+1
Someone agrees! It would be much different if Carrots & ROK were DPP, but the fact is they will both be pure mids, with ROK a sneaky chance of DPP.
My question to pickers is...what are you going to do with an overload of gun midfielders?
You might have to cut Murphy, Sidebottom, S.Selwood, Priddis, McVeigh, Van Berlo, Carrots and ROK down to 6 spots :o
you forgot grigg adz ;) yeah who wants a premium mid i do have alot :o!
honestly i had no idea hartlett got DPP before trading, after being away over wkend i accepted JROO's offer before seeing it on Scrads Euro's team page. My fault i guess and been accepted so all good whats done is done hopefully my guys get DPP :)
I'm looking for a solid VC option Pickers. Think you can help me out? :)
Quote from: Jayman on November 08, 2012, 11:31:15 PM
I'm looking for a solid VC option Pickers. Think you can help me out? :)
im trying to work something out atm. doesnt look to good :( haha
lf there's anyone who thinks their a shot for the premiership and wants to bolster their team with Fletcher, Cox or Goodes let me know and we'll see if a trade can be sorted
Quote from: nostradamus on November 09, 2012, 12:05:00 AM
lf there's anyone who thinks their a shot for the premiership and wants to bolster their team with Fletcher, Cox or Goodes let me know and we'll see if a trade can be sorted
I recon I can give the 2014 title a shot, at least by 15 ;) Sadly those guys will be retired!
Well Pickers still has a couple of movements up his sleeve for trade window #2 and he has premium mids to offer so good chance he will have players many teams want available then and again the price of established stars is high for those who want an early premiership....
If anyone's Intrested in Hartlett, pm straight away as I won't be looking to trade him after tomorrow ( as I want draft picks and the trade will be for trade period 2)
Yeah but it's going to be hard for me to get him :-[
me and Noz have sorted a trade....
l give Adam Goodes and Dean Cox
Noz gives Dion Prestia, Jonathan Griffin ans 3rd Rnd Nat pick
.....Noz to confirm
Quote from: nostradamus on November 11, 2012, 01:17:37 AM
me and Noz have sorted a trade....
l give Adam Goodes and Dean Cox
Noz gives Dion Prestia, Jonathan Griffin ans 3rd Rnd Nat pick
.....Noz to confirm
Confirm
Looking for short term success and Cox and Goodes will help with that
.....and l'm happy to get a possible future gun, A Nat pick for another young prospect, as well as a back-up ruckman
I would love to trade some of my young guns for draft picks, dam CW and his rules >:( lol joking, but yeah I want draft picks and I also want Hartlett, Walker, Redden, Sloane, etc >:( give them to me >:(
I do like the concept of being close to AFL format and keeping Asians as a realistic comp, have people noticed the mess the Worlds ect got into? :-\
CW will get his Kudos when he wins the Dustin Fletcher award, whoever hasn't voted get on the front bar and vote for the Colliwoblers ;D
Lol Walker and Redden.
Also Nost needs to give 3 players for 3??
Quote from: whatlez on November 11, 2012, 02:22:31 AM
Lol Walker and Redden.
Also Nost needs to give 3 players for 3??
Yeah well I would've taken those two at 16/17 as well >:(
and yeah a trade needs to be player for player and pick for pick ;)
sorry guys, l thought it was like the Euros, where we just have to trim our lists if we go over quota
* l suppose that's what happens when you dont read the instrustions :-[
.....if we do have to have even trades, l'll just chuck in my last pick in the rookie draft to square the ledger
Noz to confirm ;)
Quote from: Noz on November 11, 2012, 01:22:23 AM
Quote from: nostradamus on November 11, 2012, 01:17:37 AM
me and Noz have sorted a trade....
l give Adam Goodes and Dean Cox
Noz gives Dion Prestia, Jonathan Griffin ans 3rd Rnd Nat pick
.....Noz to confirm
Confirm
Looking for short term success and Cox and Goodes will help with that
APPROVED - with Nost last rookie pick thrown in to even.
Anyone looking for a premium defender? Sean Dempster is available for trade. He averaged 99 in 2012
http://sportsbet.afl.virtualsports.com.au/player/669
If anyone's Intrested in Ziebell, Jack Steven, X.Ellis, Knights message me straight away as the trade period ends soon.
If anyone's Intrested in Hartlett, Higgins, Dempster, Sandilands for the next trade period message me as well, as I want draft picks and we would have to swap picks in this trade period
I WILL PROCESS TRADES FOR THE NEXT 7 DAYS IF YOU PM THEM TO ME ONCE FINALIZED I WILL ALLOW TRADES TO GO THROUGH UP UNTIL NEXT SUNDAY THE 18TH MIDNIGHT AEST.
ANYTHING AGREED TO WITH BOTH PARTIES PM TO ME BY THAT TIME I WILL PROCESS.
Quote from: Colliwobblers on November 11, 2012, 07:24:57 PM
I WILL PROCESS TRADES FOR THE NEXT 7 DAYS IF YOU PM THEM TO ME ONCE FINALIZED I WILL ALLOW TRADES TO GO THROUGH UP UNTIL NEXT SUNDAY THE 18TH MIDNIGHT AEST.
ANYTHING AGREED TO WITH BOTH PARTIES PM TO ME BY THAT TIME I WILL PROCESS.
Cool 8)
......well guys, if anyone has a good young Fwd they want to trade l've got some pretty good young mids that are up for grabs for the right offer
I feel like trading!
Jack Steven, Ziebell, X.Ellis or Knights can be traded this trade period, so message me if your interested!
Hartlett and Higgins can be traded for the next trade period and if anyone is looking for a defender, Sean Dempster averaged 99 on 2012 so message me if your interested in trading!
Pick 15 is on the table for a young quality defender, am willing to package something else to get the deal done, Clint Bartram has caused this. ::)
Tom Mitchell, Andrew Krakouer, Justin Sherman and Daniel Kerr are all on the trade table.
plenty of interest in trading you guys need to get on the chat together and work it out!!!! time is running out for window #1.
I will officially close the trade window Sunday at Midnight.
I may however process trades right up until the day before the AFL National draft - but that CANNOT BE GUARANTEED.
I start the new job Monday ;)
Congrats on the new Job mate
Congrats, Colli. All the best
How does this affect your NFL watching CW ???
Thanks Guys, and it has DESTROYED my NFL watching, haven't seen a game for three weeks - not even a packers game....
might get to catch one or two of the replays I record on 1 over the rest of the season, we will see....
Still keeping on top of my fantasy sides tho :)
Quote from: Colliwobblers on November 15, 2012, 10:03:34 PM
Thanks Guys, and it has DESTROYED my NFL watching, haven't seen a game for three weeks - not even a packers game....
might get to catch one or two of the replays I record on 1 over the rest of the season, we will see....
Still keeping on top of my fantasy sides tho :)
Up the Pats!!! ;D
Can anyone match the following?
Drummond
Lower
Dyson
Ugle
Skinner
Pattinson
Not complaining, just asking!
flower flower flower
need to get some trades done :(
my 4 teams are falling apart :'(
Quote from: Nails on November 16, 2012, 01:44:30 AM
flower flower flower
need to get some trades done :(
my 4 teams are falling apart :'(
4 teams !!!! lmfao .......something about eyes being bigger than belly, comes to mind
Quote from: tor01doc on November 16, 2012, 01:41:16 AM
Can anyone match the following?
Drummond
Lower
Dyson
Ugle
Skinner
Pattinson
Not complaining, just asking!
And now maybe add A Mc - Phucking - phee! ::)
Quote from: tor01doc on November 16, 2012, 11:48:04 PM
Quote from: tor01doc on November 16, 2012, 01:41:16 AM
Can anyone match the following?
Drummond
Lower
Dyson
Ugle
Skinner
Pattinson
Not complaining, just asking!
And now maybe add A Mc - Phucking - phee! ::)
thats a shocking run there.......maybe we should start callling you Lou Richards......he used to do the "kiss of death" in the herald-sun years ago
I think I had one. Flanagan who was like my third last pick...
Hey Pickerman
Is Murray Newman having a holiday?
Looking for draft picks from 8-15 and 23-28
All players expet Lids and Toby Greene are up for trade
Quote from: tor01doc on November 17, 2012, 09:51:40 AM
Hey Pickerman
Is Murray Newman having a holiday?
No idea :-\ whats muzza done??
Quote from: picker_man on November 17, 2012, 12:29:25 PM
Quote from: tor01doc on November 17, 2012, 09:51:40 AM
Hey Pickerman
Is Murray Newman having a holiday?
No idea :-\ whats muzza done??
http://www.afl.com.au/news/newsarticle/tabid/208/newsid/151234/default.aspx
Quote from: JROO8 on November 17, 2012, 12:34:07 PM
Quote from: picker_man on November 17, 2012, 12:29:25 PM
Quote from: tor01doc on November 17, 2012, 09:51:40 AM
Hey Pickerman
Is Murray Newman having a holiday?
No idea :-\ whats muzza done??
http://www.afl.com.au/news/newsarticle/tabid/208/newsid/151234/default.aspx
someone felt the wrath of a lamb ;D
Willing to package up Scott D. Thompson and Heath Grundy up in order to secure 1 quality defender in return
I am willing to part with Fyfe/Zaharakis, Brent Reilly, and Sam Mitchell to secure a premo mid (135+ Sportsbet average).
Anyone Intrested in doing some trading? Message me!
Willing to use pick 15 to secure a decent defender, preferably under 25, with around a 90 average. Willing to package one of my depth defenders (Clarke, Firrito etc.) along with Daniel Merrett/Alan Didak for the deal.
If anyone's Intrested in Jack Steven, message me ASAP as I will need to get the trade done by midnight. Also if anyone wants Hartlett or Higgins in trade period 2, last chance as I am looking for draft picks
Anyone Intrested in some last minute trades? Quickly message me, everyone could be moved on for the right price
Quote from: JROO8 on November 19, 2012, 01:44:12 PM
Sorry Colli we agreed to this yesterday
Quote from: KoopKicka on November 19, 2012, 01:13:02 AM
Quote from: JROO8 on November 19, 2012, 01:11:00 AM
Jroo gives Dempster + 26 + rook 26 + rook 99 rook 102
Koop gives Merrett + 15 + rook 13 + rook 47
Trade period 1
Jroo gives 26nd, 26rook, 99rook
Koop gives 15nd, 13rook, 47 rook
Trade Period 2
Jroo gives Dempster
Koop gives Merrett
Koop to confirm? I am still not sure and waiting on Zip
Confirm
APPROVED
Quote from: Maca24 on November 18, 2012, 09:41:20 PM
Quote from: JROO8 on November 18, 2012, 09:36:31 PM
Trade Done!
This is how it will look, but has to go over the 2 trade periods
Jroo8 gives Dylan Grimes + Picks 37ND, 100R (compo pick), 101R (compo pick)
Maca gives Luke Tapscott + Picks 12ND, 26ND, 44ND
Trade Period 1
Jroo8 gives Picks 37ND, 100R (compo pick), 101R (compo pick)
Maca gives Picks 12ND, 26ND, 44ND
Trade Period 2
Jroo8 gives Dylan Grimes
Maca gives Luke Tapscott
Maca to confirm
Confirmed.
APPROVED
TRDE WINDOW OFFICAILLY CLOSED - IF YOU MAKE FURTHER TRADES I WILL DO WHAT I CAN TO PROCESS AND UPDATE PICK LISTS AHEAD OF OUR NATIONAL DRAFT BUT DEFINATELY NO GUARANTEE.
FINAL PICK LISTS ARE UPDATED IN DRAFT THREAD
National: http://www.fanfooty.com.au/forum/index.php/topic,66557.msg862268.html#msg862268
NOTE: i AM A NICE GUY, IF YOU GET ME A PM OF AN AGREED UPON TRADE UP TO THE NIGHT OF THE AFL NATIONAL DRAFT, I SHOULD BE ABLE TO PROCESS THE TRADE FOR YOU, NO GUARANTEE BUT I SHOULD BE ABLE TO PUT IT THROUGH AND UPDATE ALL THE LISTS ON DRAFT NIGHT SO EVERYTHING IS RIGHT FOR THE DRAFT START THE FOLLOWING NIGHT.
I MAY OR MAY NOT BE ON AS THE DRAFT STARTS (OURS) BUT I HAVE SENT A PM TO WHATLEZ REMINDING HIM OF THE START TIME AND RULES, SO WHEN READY HE CAN JUST PICK AND AWAY WE GO.
Check your PM please tbag and JB
EVERYONE WHO HAS TRADED COMPENSATION PICKS, PLEASE BE AWARE THE PICKS YOU HAD OR TRADED HAVE NOW CHANGED. AND WILL CHANGE AGAIN AS I ALLOCATE FURTHER COMPENSATION PICKS AS THE ROOKIE/PRESEASON DRAFT COMPLETES (AFL).
YOU DON'T HAVE TO DO ANYTHING JUST BE AWARE THE REASON YOUR PICK 102 FOR EXAMPLE MAY NOW BE 103 IS THAT AS MORE PLAYERS RETIRE OR PLAYERS WHO ARE DELISTED AND DO NOT GET RELISTED ARE GIVEN COMPENSATION PICKS, OUR COMPENSATION PICK ORDER WILL CHANGE.
THIS IS DUE TO IT BEING BASED ON FIRST PLAYER DRAFTED GETS FIRST COMPENSATION PICK AND SO ON.
ANY QUESTIONS LET ME KNOW.
Anyone need a defender? Daniel Merrett and Luke Tapscott up for trade!
Anyone need a mid..... Murphy, Sidebottom, Selwood, Grigg, Priddis, O'keefe,Carrots, Mcveigh, Vanberlo..... anyone
I'll take Murphy
Quote from: picker_man on November 22, 2012, 05:28:08 PM
Anyone need a mid..... Murphy, Sidebottom, Selwood, Grigg, Priddis, O'keefe,Carrots, Mcveigh, Vanberlo..... anyone
I would take in this order...
Sidebottom
Murphy
Selwood
Priddis
Carrots
what are you looking for and why not wait until the second window? you are almost out of time.....
Quote from: Colliwobblers on November 22, 2012, 07:32:41 PM
Quote from: picker_man on November 22, 2012, 05:28:08 PM
Anyone need a mid..... Murphy, Sidebottom, Selwood, Grigg, Priddis, O'keefe,Carrots, Mcveigh, Vanberlo..... anyone
I would take in this order...
Sidebottom
Murphy
Selwood
Priddis
Carrots
what are you looking for and why not wait until the second window? you are almost out of time.....
yeah its for 2nd trade period just getting onto it now ;)
depends on which mid but deal has to involve a gun fwd
AXVS NATIONAL DRAFT IS OPEN.
Quote from: JROO8 on November 22, 2012, 10:03:48 PM
Quote from: Colliwobblers on November 22, 2012, 09:53:36 PM
try remember to PM the next guy on the list. :)
Colli, sorry cant respond to your pm, went over the 20 message limit.
Tbag accepted it straight away, but must have only sent it to me and not you. Is there anything we can do?
THIS IS WHAT YOU SUGGESTED - WHICH CANNOT BE DONE.
Quote from: JROO8 on November 22, 2012, 09:36:01 PM
Quote from: JROO8 on Today at 08:33:30 PM
Trade!
Trade period 1
Jroo gives Pick 12
Tbag gives rookie 5
Trade Period 2
Jroo gives Tapscott + Pick 27
Tbag gives Hanley + rookie 87
Tbag to confirm?
accept
THIS IS WHAT YOU CAN DO BUT I SHOULD NOT LET YOU IT IS TOO LATE BUT I WILL BECASUE IT DOES NOT EFFECT ANYONE ELSE.
Trade Window #1:
JROO8 Gives: Pick NAT 12 + Pick NAT 27
TBAGROCKS Gives: Pick ROOK 5 + Pick ROOK 87
Trade Window #2:
JROO8 Gives: Tapscott
TBAGROCKS Gives: Hanley
I NEED YOU BOTH TO CONFIRM THIS IN THE NEXT FEW MINUTES SO I CAN CHANGE EVERYTHING.
accept
Quote from: Colliwobblers on November 22, 2012, 10:22:43 PM
but jroo8 doesnt have nat pick #27 so WTF ?
Check your messages, I am getting next trade period
Colli, can't respond again due to sending 20 messages. BB is offline and don't think he will be back online for the night. Could you wait to the morning when he should confirm? If not Tbag already accepted the other trade and I will just do that, if BB won't respond. How long will you give me til BB67th responds? Thanks again Colli
Trade period 1
Jroo8 gives Rookie 47
BB67 gives Pick 27Nd
Trade Period 2
Jroo8 gives Daniel Merrett
BB67 gives rookie 91
APPROVED - this was sent to me before the trade window closed and i hadn't had time to process.
Keen to do a bit more trading in window two this time round.
Anyone is not off limits and once again only looking for players who are born before 1987.
So no more youth policy then whatlez?
Quote from: monstrum on November 28, 2012, 01:23:36 AM
So no more youth policy then whatlez?
Fuvk. I mean after
I need a defender and superstar Shaun Higgins is on the trade table
Brant Colledge
&
Harry Cunningham
I have a small feeling he is in the wrong thread
Quote from: whatlez on November 28, 2012, 04:21:44 PM
I have a small feeling he is in the wrong thread
Lol I think so
After some CD positional changes the Eskimos have realised they are in massive trouble, these players are on the table, need backup forwards desperately.
Andrew Embley
Taylor Hunt
Alan Didak
Aaron Joesph
Beau Wilkes
Liam Picken
I have plenty of forwards ;)
Menzel + merrett for dumpster and Barry looking a pretty silly trade now hey :P
Quote from: JBs-Hawks on November 28, 2012, 08:36:25 PM
I have plenty of forwards ;)
Menzel + merrett for dumpster and Barry looking a pretty silly trade now hey :P
Merrett was then trade for pick 27, so
Menzel + Hunter for Dempster + Barry ;D
Quote from: JBs-Hawks on November 28, 2012, 08:36:25 PM
I have plenty of forwards ;)
Menzel + merrett for dumpster and Barry looking a pretty silly trade now hey :P
:(
But anyways koops iv got plenty of forwards and they are available at the right price
I'd like early rookie picks, who has interest in a Jacobs or something for me to get some rookie, or late nat draft picks :o
Trade with me, I'm on the computer for a few hours :)
I don't want to say I told you so... but when I said Taylor Hunt is 100% guaranteed to be Mid only? I was right. So flower you all :P
Anyone need a forward? I have Higgins and looking for a defender in return.
Quote from: whatlez on November 30, 2012, 07:10:53 PM
I don't want to say I told you so... but when I said Taylor Hunt is 100% guaranteed to be Mid only? I was right. So flower you all :P
is there somewhere u can look at the positions for next year already>?
TWO POINTS TO CLARIFY.
1. TRADE WINDOW TWO COMMENCES AFTER THE AXVS ROOKIE/PRESEASON DRAFT.
2. PLAYERS WHO YOU TRADED IN DURING TRADE WINDOW #1 DO NOT COUNT AS LIST MOVEMENTS IF YOU ONTRADE THEM IN TRADE WINDOW #2.
The idea with limiting list movements was to not allow people to drastically change the team they drafted. On trading players you bring in does not serve to significantly change your team as it is still only the ONE ORIGINAL PLAYER you drafted that has left if you continue to on trade his replacement/s.
any clarification needed PM me.
Does trading someone drafted in the NAt draft count as a movement?
Also, I am willing to on-trade some of the following players that have recently come to Sri Lanka: A.Gaff, J.Howe, Scott D. Thompson, R.Palmer, H.Grundy, L.Casboult
Quote from: Jayman on December 02, 2012, 12:51:30 PM
Does trading someone drafted in the NAt draft count as a movement?
Also, I am willing to on-trade some of the following players that have recently come to Sri Lanka: A.Gaff, J.Howe, Scott D. Thompson, R.Palmer, H.Grundy, L.Casboult
yes anyone YOU drafted.
to everyone concerned: Heppell, Golby, Rockliff, Ward, Swallow and Bugg. Are off the table.
Especially to the offers like i'v had so far.
Quote from: monstrum on December 02, 2012, 03:29:22 PM
to everyone concerned: Heppell, Golby, Rockliff, Ward, Swallow and Bugg. Are off the table.
Especially to the offers like i'v had so far.
I agree, people are trying to get the better players for chicken feed
Players i'm willing to trade...
Def..
Garrick Ibbotson
Colin Garland
Tyson Goldsack
Mids..
David Armitage
David McKay
Jube Bolton
Karmichael Hunt
Aaron Mullet
Jordan Schroder
Fwds..
Chris Mayne
Lindsay Thomas
Mark Nicoski
some pretty good blokes in there i reckon.
some of the blokes will take a good deal to move from my list PM me any offers :)
Why not Fasolo!?!? :'(
And Jude Bolton is a forward ;)
did jude get dpp..? :o
wow thats awesome, same with rocky!... makes me feel a bit better for gettin rid of Daisy
Anyone need a young gun mid? Ziebell and Jack Steven are avavlbie, while Higgins and X.Ellis (who averages 120 if you take his sub affected game out) are also avavlbie
Why would you take his sub effected game out?
Quote from: JBs-Hawks on December 02, 2012, 08:05:24 PM
Why would you take his sub effected game out?
To show how much he averages when he's actually playing a full game ::)
Quote from: JROO8 on December 02, 2012, 08:07:14 PM
Quote from: JBs-Hawks on December 02, 2012, 08:05:24 PM
Why would you take his sub effected game out?
To show how much he averages when he's actually playing a full game ::)
There are two reasons why you shouldn't take Ellis' sub game out...
1. Without that sub game, he only played 2 games (and against Gold Coast and Port).
2. He is always injured, hence sub affected scores ;)
Yea but he's always gonna be a prime candidate for the sub ::)
Quote from: Colliwobblers on December 02, 2012, 02:30:13 PM
Quote from: Jayman on December 02, 2012, 12:51:30 PM
Does trading someone drafted in the NAt draft count as a movement?
Also, I am willing to on-trade some of the following players that have recently come to Sri Lanka: A.Gaff, J.Howe, Scott D. Thompson, R.Palmer, H.Grundy, L.Casboult
yes anyone YOU drafted
so I could trade James Stewart whom I took with the NAT 36 pick I got from Pickers?
Quote from: Jayman on December 02, 2012, 08:15:44 PM
Quote from: Colliwobblers on December 02, 2012, 02:30:13 PM
Quote from: Jayman on December 02, 2012, 12:51:30 PM
Does trading someone drafted in the NAt draft count as a movement?
Also, I am willing to on-trade some of the following players that have recently come to Sri Lanka: A.Gaff, J.Howe, Scott D. Thompson, R.Palmer, H.Grundy, L.Casboult
yes anyone YOU drafted
so I could trade James Stewart whom I took with the NAT 36 pick I got from Pickers?
Incorrect. New trading period = all previous player movements reset.
Quote from: whatlez on December 02, 2012, 08:20:45 PM
Quote from: Jayman on December 02, 2012, 08:15:44 PM
Quote from: Colliwobblers on December 02, 2012, 02:30:13 PM
Quote from: Jayman on December 02, 2012, 12:51:30 PM
Does trading someone drafted in the NAt draft count as a movement?
Also, I am willing to on-trade some of the following players that have recently come to Sri Lanka: A.Gaff, J.Howe, Scott D. Thompson, R.Palmer, H.Grundy, L.Casboult
yes anyone YOU drafted
so I could trade James Stewart whom I took with the NAT 36 pick I got from Pickers?
Incorrect. New trading period = all previous player movements reset.
I believe that is incorrect Whatlez. Players received in window 1 can be on-traded without the loss of a movement
Quote from: Adamant on December 02, 2012, 08:10:13 PM
Quote from: JROO8 on December 02, 2012, 08:07:14 PM
Quote from: JBs-Hawks on December 02, 2012, 08:05:24 PM
Why would you take his sub effected game out?
To show how much he averages when he's actually playing a full game ::)
There are two reasons why you shouldn't take Ellis' sub game out...
1. Without that sub game, he only played 2 games (and against Gold Coast and Port).
2. He is always injured, hence sub affected scores ;)
Was just trying to pump him up and get some people Intrested :P
Quote from: Jayman on December 02, 2012, 08:34:09 PM
Quote from: whatlez on December 02, 2012, 08:20:45 PM
Quote from: Jayman on December 02, 2012, 08:15:44 PM
Quote from: Colliwobblers on December 02, 2012, 02:30:13 PM
Quote from: Jayman on December 02, 2012, 12:51:30 PM
Does trading someone drafted in the NAt draft count as a movement?
Also, I am willing to on-trade some of the following players that have recently come to Sri Lanka: A.Gaff, J.Howe, Scott D. Thompson, R.Palmer, H.Grundy, L.Casboult
yes anyone YOU drafted
so I could trade James Stewart whom I took with the NAT 36 pick I got from Pickers?
Incorrect. New trading period = all previous player movements reset.
I believe that is incorrect Whatlez. Players received in window 1 can be on-traded without the loss of a movement
Yeah I'm with Jay. Thats what Colli told me
Quote from: Jayman on December 02, 2012, 08:34:09 PM
Quote from: whatlez on December 02, 2012, 08:20:45 PM
Quote from: Jayman on December 02, 2012, 08:15:44 PM
Quote from: Colliwobblers on December 02, 2012, 02:30:13 PM
Quote from: Jayman on December 02, 2012, 12:51:30 PM
Does trading someone drafted in the NAt draft count as a movement?
Also, I am willing to on-trade some of the following players that have recently come to Sri Lanka: A.Gaff, J.Howe, Scott D. Thompson, R.Palmer, H.Grundy, L.Casboult
yes anyone YOU drafted
so I could trade James Stewart whom I took with the NAT 36 pick I got from Pickers?
Incorrect. New trading period = all previous player movements reset.
I believe that is incorrect Whatlez. Players received in window 1 can be on-traded without the loss of a movement
I can on trade Rookie 51 and not be a list movement as it already cost us one in 1st trade period and you can do the same with Nat 36 Jay ;)
@Lez CW put a post up explaining why you can on trade players or players that where taken with picks that counted as a list movement (i.e swapped a player for pick) in the 1st trade window
Hmm well that's different rules to Euros I think...
Well so are you saying that all Nat picks do not count?
Quote from: whatlez on December 02, 2012, 09:08:44 PM
Hmm well that's different rules to Euros I think...
Well so are you saying that all Nat picks do not count?
Same as British different to Euro's.
Nah majority of nat players will cost you a list movement.
Rookie 51 wont cost me a list movement again because it already cost me one in 1st trade period
T.Mckenzie > Nat 36 = 1 list movement
Nat 36 > Rookie 51 = No list movement
Rookie 51 > a player i trade for = No list movement
8)
Quote from: whatlez on December 03, 2012, 08:00:07 AM
I accept the trade
Fasolo and mayne
For
Swallow and garlett
I agree to the trade with whatlez and holz down at Laos!
Sorry to anyone who was talking trade with mayne or Faz but whatlez has them now, i sorta lost track of offers towards the end.
@Holz: the swallow brothers are finally united!! :D
I accept if we're allowed yet... lol
You can't trade during draft period ::)
Quote from: tbagrocks on December 03, 2012, 02:57:47 PM
You can't trade during draft period ::)
stop us :P
Lambs Give: S.Selwood + C.Moller
Elephants Give: J.Riewoldt + B.Stratton
(when next trade period opens) Lez to confirm.
Accept again. Stratton is killer blow, but we will recover
Alright out of list movements :('Can i use my four from the first period :) and I know the answer :(
Quote from: whatlez on December 03, 2012, 03:37:30 PM
Accept again. Stratton is killer blow, but we will recover
Alright out of list movements :('Can i use my four from the first period :) and I know the answer :(
haha i knew stratton was a gun ;)
We can on trade players from the 1st trade period in the 2nd with no extra list movement making the two periods combined. So i dont see any reason why a list movement not used in the 1st cant be in the 2nd.... just my opinion though :)
i'm with u pickers he should be able to use em... just like anual leave haha ;)
Quote from: picker_man on December 03, 2012, 03:45:37 PM
Quote from: whatlez on December 03, 2012, 03:37:30 PM
Accept again. Stratton is killer blow, but we will recover
Alright out of list movements :('Can i use my four from the first period :) and I know the answer :(
haha i knew stratton was a gun ;)
We can on trade players from the 1st trade period in the 2nd with no extra list movement making the two periods combined. So i dont see any reason why a list movement not used in the 1st cant be in the 2nd.... just my opinion though :)
Yeah I reckon you might be able to. Message Colli, because he said we can on trade players from the first trade period so, Im with Picker and reckon you should be able to use them
Rules are rules and people seem to want to bend them to suit themselves
Toot toot - I find myself agreeing with you more often nowadays??!
Something about great minds...
is there actually a rule that says the trades are gone once the period ends? :P
I honestly thought you couldnt, but also thought you couldnt on trade players from trade period one..
Also tbag, y u no reply?!?!
YOU WERE ALLOWED 4 LIST MOVEMENTS IN TRADE WINDOW #1 AND YOU ARE ALLOWED 4 IN TRADE WINDOW #2.
they do not roll over window to window or season to season....
Yea that's what I thought. But you can use traded players for a seperate window to trade again without using a trade movement? That seems weird.
This means I could of just traded 4 players to someone then trade agree to trade the 4 players back so that you can still trade them in the second window?
Or we could just eliminate all this confusion and have no list movements :P
Or read the rules because of course they're in BLACK and WHITE hey cw??!! ;D
Quote from: tor01doc on December 03, 2012, 06:17:48 PM
Or read the rules because of course they're in BLACK and WHITE hey cw??!! ;D
All's that was being asked was if you can do it... get over it ::)
Quote from: whatlez on December 03, 2012, 05:56:24 PM
Yea that's what I thought. But you can use traded players for a seperate window to trade again without using a trade movement? That seems weird.
This means I could of just traded 4 players to someone then trade agree to trade the 4 players back so that you can still trade them in the second window?
the intention is to limit the changes to your original (drafted) list.
how many different players you trade in and out of your team in replacement of ONE of your players does not change your original list any more than ONE player (from your original (drafted) list.
makes sense i have spelt it out in other posts previously but if you need a nice big example of how it works i can do so again for you.
in short if you trade a player you drafted out, then keep trading the player you traded for him in and out many times, your list is still only one player different in the end - so ONE LIST MOVEMENT.
Okay I am keen to get some offers for Andrew Gaff, averaging 112 at only 20 years of age. Would like a gun back or fwd in return.
Please PM your best offer
ok guys theres been ALOT of interest in Golby to be traded, all the offers i have rejected straight up without even considering them, i'm putting him out there for discussion to see if there's anything i like that i can get in return..
PM ur interest :)
I'm not saying I want more list movements. But say I traded Walker, Redden, Barlow and Goldstein to you we say. And you give your 4 best players. This is done in trade period one. Then in trade period two we traded our players back. Would that count as 4 more list movements or that's your 4?
It would count as 4 but from the first period, zero from the second period
Therefore, being able to trade those 4 players on again in the second period, hence ginving you 8 trade movements but only losing 4 players. Having the option of losing 8. So yeah I did that with... um... someone.
Quote from: whatlez on December 03, 2012, 08:08:41 PM
Therefore, being able to trade those 4 players on again in the second period, hence ginving you 8 trade movements but only losing 4 players. Having the option of losing 8. So yeah I did that with... um... someone.
Yeah you traded them to me and I didn't trade them back :P
So if I want to trade rookie pick one, it will cost me a list movement in the next period? That is bullshower, I want to trade it before I get the player so it's not counted. Same with pickers trading Moller as he was a pick when we worked on the deal ;) During the draft...
here is an example.
your original drafted list (6 players for this exercise)
player 1
player 2
player 3
player 4
player 5
player 6
you trade player 2 for BOB
new list is
player 1
BOB
player 3
player 4
player 5
player 6
that is one list movement, one player on your list is different.
NOW, if you trade BOB for FRED then FRED for SAM, then SAM for FRANK, then FRANK for SUE, then SUE for TIM
your new list is
player 1
TIM
player 3
player 4
player 5
player 6
you have not made an additional change to your original list through all those trades, there is still only one different player on your list.
original list meaning drafted list in this season.
in future seasons it will be the list you end the season with is your original list, for trade window #1
for trade window #2 it will be the list you submit with new drafted players added and existing players delisted to make room for the new draftees. (still players you traded in in window #1 will not counts as a new list movement if they are on traded.
Oh well... This just means that Rookie Pick One cannot be on traded... for some reason I thought Window One counted until the Rookie Pre-Season draft started...
Quote from: whatlez on December 03, 2012, 07:57:51 PM
I'm not saying I want more list movements. But say I traded Walker, Redden, Barlow and Goldstein to you we say. And you give your 4 best players. This is done in trade period one. Then in trade period two we traded our players back. Would that count as 4 more list movements or that's your 4?
I reckon that example is ZERO trade movements but that you've used four trades per window and max'ed out for no net gain making you a bit of a noofer.
Or am I confused too?
So Cw I cannot trade Rookie Pick one it will become a player and hence I don't have a list movement left for the latest period?
All you can trade rookie one for is another rookie pick ;)
Or you could trade one of the players you traded in and the rookie pick for any player and a rookie pick.
It's hardly rocket science
Quote from: JBs-Hawks on December 04, 2012, 08:52:57 PM
All you can trade rookie one for is another rookie pick ;)
Or you could trade one of the players you traded in and the rookie pick for any player and a rookie pick.
It's hardly rocket science
No you can't. The trade period is after the rookie draft and picks can't be traded in the 2nd trade period
Aren't we talking about the current trade period?
Quote from: JBs-Hawks on December 04, 2012, 08:59:59 PM
Aren't we talking about the current trade period?
There is no current trade period. All the trades being posted atm are for 2nd trade period which is after rookie draft as JROO said so cant trades picks or its a list movement
No offense, but I think the way the trading period operated needs to be reviewed for next season.
I found it hard to get my head around with all the on trading and stuff :?
Quote from: Maca24 on December 04, 2012, 09:17:47 PM
No offense, but I think the way the trading period operated needs to be reviewed for next season.
I found it hard to get my head around with all the on trading and stuff :?
I agree with this.
and Jb if you don't even know the rules then it must be rocket science ::)
Clearly :P
Quote from: whatlez on December 04, 2012, 09:24:21 PM
Quote from: Maca24 on December 04, 2012, 09:17:47 PM
No offense, but I think the way the trading period operated needs to be reviewed for next season.
I found it hard to get my head around with all the on trading and stuff :?
I agree with this.
and Jb if you don't even know the rules then it must be rocket science ::)
I have no issue about counting the on trading of players you trade in as a list movement each time. Just means a LOT LESS trading will be possible each period.
We can put it to a vote closer to the end of next season.
Frankly if anything really about the setup of the rules regarding trading is confusing, rocket science isn't your thing, and probably nor is flipping burgers.
I have mentioned repeatedly that if anyone is confused i can explain it all, but i never hear any requests for explanations, or when i do they are simple questions which answered simply always have satisfied the people asking me about the rule or setting.
If you can't understand how the on trading works by my previous post on it several posts ago, I may struggle to be able to help you as it looks pretty clear to me, HOWEVER if you are still confused by it all as I say PM ME and I will go through it with you until you are enlightened :)
ok.
Ah Grasshopper,
Please lead me to enlightenment.
It is all that I seek.
In the meantime consider this...
Holding on to anger is like grasping a hot coal with the intention of throwing it at someone else; you are the one who gets burned.
Haha..
" anger is like an acid grasshopper, an acid which can do more harm to the vessell in which its held than anything to which it is poured".... Grasshoppah
you all take too much acid and don't read enough of the rules :)
i am not angry just perplexed at the continuing confusion that exists about the same point we have been over many times.
as i said we can vote on the topic of contention before the 2013 season ends and we enter that trade period.
Quote from: Colliwobblers on December 04, 2012, 11:19:13 PM
you all take too much acid and don't read enough of the rules :)
i am not angry just perplexed at the continuing confusion that exists about the same point we have been over many times.
as i said we can vote on the topic of contention before the 2013 season ends and we enter that trade period.
So you can on trade players, but if you don't use the movements in period one you can't get them back?
And if you on trade Nat/Rook picks in Period One you can on-trade them, but it you can't on trade initial Nat pick/Rookie picks?
Also since Oliver Wines was on traded, anyone keen? lol jokes.
::) picks do not count, but once you pick a player they then count as a movement if you choose to trade!
Quote from: tbagrocks on December 04, 2012, 11:30:04 PM
::) picks do not count, but once you pick a player they then count as a movement if you choose to trade!
but if you received the pick in a trade then draft the player then technically it is just a normal on-trade which is allowed
Quote from: Jayman on December 04, 2012, 11:36:54 PM
Quote from: tbagrocks on December 04, 2012, 11:30:04 PM
::) picks do not count, but once you pick a player they then count as a movement if you choose to trade!
but if you received the pick in a trade then draft the player then technically it is just a normal on-trade which is allowed
Hence Oliver Wines available for business.
Quote from: Jayman on December 04, 2012, 11:36:54 PM
Quote from: tbagrocks on December 04, 2012, 11:30:04 PM
::) picks do not count, but once you pick a player they then count as a movement if you choose to trade!
but if you received the pick in a trade then draft the player then technically it is just a normal on-trade which is allowed
But you didn't use a list movement to secure the pick so you can't
Any trading of picks does not count
Now pay attention...
Once you draft a player to your list they are now on your list and will count as a movement if traded, only players traded to your team (either window) can be on-traded at no expence
Yeah that's how the rule should work.
Quote from: tbagrocks on December 04, 2012, 11:42:36 PM
Any trading of picks does not count
Now pay attention...
Once you draft a player to your list they are now on your list and will count as a movement if traded, only players traded to your team (either window) can be on-traded at no expence
this is how the rule works.but to clarify, and I think the following covers it all....
Anyone you DRAFT to your team - then trade out "changes your list from it's drafted state" = list movement.
If you traded a player IN for a pick in window #1, this also "changes your list from it's drafted state" = list movement.
picks traded in period one (the only period picks could be traded) for other picks "does not change your list from it's original drafted state" = NO list movement.
Anyone you traded in in either window can be traded out again and this "does not change your list from it's original drafted state" = NO list movement.
and having 4 list movements PER WINDOW, I assumed to indicate they do not roll over from window #1 to window #2. They do not.
we could vote on changing this before we get to the window #2, but i very much doubt it will get through as most people chose to have 4 per window, and most people have used their 4 in window #1 and would have no benefit in allowing the few who didn't use theirs to get to use them in window #2.
I will revisit all rules on completion of season 2013 before we trade or draft, and we can vote on changes that will improve the competition for future seasons.
We can vote to change things earlier if serious concerns come up naturally.
I now understand Colli, however I still believe it is way to complicated. :P
In future I'll probably vote for a rule that considers on trading as a list movement.
So you get a cap on trading eg. 10-15 trades maximum.
And a trade is a trade :P
Much simpler and easier to keep track of.
Anyone Intrested in Ziebell or Higgins?
I need a defender :)
Quote from: JROO8 on December 05, 2012, 02:56:23 PM
Anyone Intrested in Ziebell or Higgins?
I need a defender :)
Lol no one wants them... Actually if I had more trades I would go for Ziebs.
How are you all so confused?
It seems pretty straight forward to me...
Quote from: Maca24 on December 05, 2012, 01:18:05 PM
I now understand Colli, however I still believe it is way to complicated. :P
In future I'll probably vote for a rule that considers on trading as a list movement.
So you get a cap on trading eg. 10-15 trades maximum.
And a trade is a trade :P
Much simpler and easier to keep track of.
Yes fair enough we will have this vote before the end of 2013 season trade window opes.
I want the Z man, but don't have the backs to trade :-[
Quote from: Colliwobblers on December 05, 2012, 06:00:13 PM
Quote from: Maca24 on December 05, 2012, 01:18:05 PM
I now understand Colli, however I still believe it is way to complicated. :P
In future I'll probably vote for a rule that considers on trading as a list movement.
So you get a cap on trading eg. 10-15 trades maximum.
And a trade is a trade :P
Much simpler and easier to keep track of.
Yes fair enough we will have this vote before the end of 2013 season trade window opes.
Really?? your gonna put a major rule that has been in place in atleast 3 of the 4 comps (unsure on WXV) for ages to a vote to change it just cause a few still dont get it :-\
Different coaches from different comps have used the on trading rule regularly for months and continuing to allow these rules to be voted on that most of have come to know is getting a bit of a joke...... New rules yeah but flower on-trading has been a part of XV's since i joined.
my prediction is that the vote will go the way of ontrading being allowed, given 90% of the AXVs coaches want trading trading and more trading I cannot see this changing.
however, I am not in a position to just say no! we are doing it my way.
from what i can gather 3 or 4 people don't like and or understand the rule, so that's not nearly enough to go changing it is it :)
still a democracy we be. within reason.
Just seems any rule at any time is up for vote..... just gotta get one or two pplz to complain with you
Quote from: picker_man on December 05, 2012, 10:09:08 PM
Just seems any rule at any time is up for vote..... just gotta get one or two pplz to complain with you
we are talking end of 2013 season, maybe by then they will understand the rule and the vote won't be necessary ;)
Quote from: Colliwobblers on December 05, 2012, 10:22:28 PM
Quote from: picker_man on December 05, 2012, 10:09:08 PM
Just seems any rule at any time is up for vote..... just gotta get one or two pplz to complain with you
we are talking end of 2013 season, maybe by then they will understand the rule and the vote won't be necessary ;)
hopefully they forget :)
I have a premium mid and 2 backs that werent on my original list that im willing to on trade....... if you know what i mean haha
But do you have any forwards?
PS Vietnam need defenders! :P
Quote from: tor01doc on December 05, 2012, 10:35:01 PM
But do you have any forwards?
PS Vietnam need defenders! :P
Lambs have 13 of them..... :)
13 - but only 3 1/2 decent ones! :P
5 decent ;) the rest are spuds haha
4 1/2 then - Tippett is only half the man he used to be (for 2013 anyway.)
haha fair call. 4 1/2 :)
Teams looking more settled with quite a few trades already pencilled in for the next window.
Rookie draft could be important.
Quote from: picker_man on December 05, 2012, 09:59:31 PM
Quote from: Colliwobblers on December 05, 2012, 06:00:13 PM
Quote from: Maca24 on December 05, 2012, 01:18:05 PM
I now understand Colli, however I still believe it is way to complicated. :P
In future I'll probably vote for a rule that considers on trading as a list movement.
So you get a cap on trading eg. 10-15 trades maximum.
And a trade is a trade :P
Much simpler and easier to keep track of.
Yes fair enough we will have this vote before the end of 2013 season trade window opes.
Really?? your gonna put a major rule that has been in place in atleast 3 of the 4 comps (unsure on WXV) for ages to a vote to change it just cause a few still dont get it :-\
Different coaches from different comps have used the on trading rule regularly for months and continuing to allow these rules to be voted on that most of have come to know is getting a bit of a joke...... New rules yeah but flower on-trading has been a part of XV's since i joined.
Worlds does not on trade and that was the first XV's comp.
Works a lot better IMO.
Nothing about the worlds trading is better :P
Worlds has too much trading. Hence Ossiie quitting for a bit because of poor rules. Not sure if it works better...
Another pending deal TBA the Headhunters have decided to bring in some experience which see's
Andrew Carrazzo and Shaun Burgoyne come to the club..
The services of Mitch Golby and Travis Varcoe will be missed.
Quote from: whatlez on December 06, 2012, 12:04:45 AM
Worlds has too much trading. Hence Ossiie quitting for a bit because of poor rules. Not sure if it works better...
That's not why he quit at all. ::)
Quote from: tbagrocks on December 05, 2012, 11:47:56 PM
Nothing about the worlds trading is better :P
The on trading rule being non existent is better. Just need a better confirmation system and a trade cap.
Quote from: monstrum on December 06, 2012, 12:30:37 AM
Another pending deal TBA the Headhunters have decided to bring in some experience which see's
Andrew Carrazzo and Shaun Burgoyne come to the club..
The services of Mitch Golby and Travis Varcoe will be missed.
the Lambs confirm the trade for next window.
Quote from: picker_man on December 06, 2012, 10:59:11 AM
Quote from: monstrum on December 06, 2012, 12:30:37 AM
Another pending deal TBA the Headhunters have decided to bring in some experience which see's
Andrew Carrazzo and Shaun Burgoyne come to the club..
The services of Mitch Golby and Travis Varcoe will be missed.
the Lambs confirm the trade for next window.
you don't need to post these trades until the next window is open. And i will need you to because i can't keep checking the trade thread to add trades to the pending window #2 list regularly enough and don't want to miss any.
so please feel free to post and agree to trades now, but remember you will need to post again and possibly PM me also when the trade window opens after our rookie draft, just so I can add them to the list approve them and update lists etc.
TRADE WINDOW #2 WILL OPEN AT 8PM AEDT ON MONDAY THE 14/01/2103.
YOU MUST HAVE CONFIRMED YOUR LIST AS I HAVE IT (can be found here, the draft thread, and the official team list thread) IS CORRECT BEFORE I WILL PROCESS ANY TRADES FOR YOUR TEAM. CONFIRM TO ME BY PM.
LIST MOVEMENTS FOR TRADE WINDOW #2 = 6 PER TEAM.
PRE AGREED TRADES WILL BE PROCESSED AS SOON AS THE TRADE WINDOW OPENS AND I WILL UPDATE A LIST OF REMAINING LIST MOVEMENTS PER TEAM AS WE GO AND UPDATE TEAM LISTS ON THIS THREAD ONLY AS WE GO.
ONCE WE HAVE COMPLETED THE TRADE WINDOW I WILL TRANSFER TEAM LISTS TO THE OFFICIAL TEAM LIST THREAD> ONCE COACHED HAVE SUBMITTED THEIR SENIOR AND ROOKIE LISTS>
FINAL LIST SUBMISSION INCLUDING YOUR SENIOR LIST AND ROOKIE LIST WILL BE REQUIRED WITHIN 7 DAYS OF THE TRADE WINDOW #2 CLOSING.
HAPPY TRADING.
My two trades are with pickers and mons. Have you guys confirmed your lists??
Quote from: whatlez on January 14, 2013, 02:24:34 PM
My two trades are with pickers and mons. Have you guys confirmed your lists??
Yeah i confirmed ours last night, so we should be all good to go ahead with it :)
Just got home from work, which means an hour or two more of work now on the pooter, so I'll get stuck into processing trades as soon as I am done.
I will start with all the liste proposed trade window #2 trades as per the first page of this thread.
If any have been cancelled I'll need to be told and whether they are cancelled mutually or who cancelled if only one party chose to cancel.
TRADE WINDOW #2 IS NOW OPEN.
* PLEASE POST ALL PROPOSED TRADES TO THIS THREAD AND PM TO ME*
* PLEASE PROPOSE TRADES IN THE FOLLOWING FORMAT:
COACH (not team name) GIVES:
COACH (not team name) GIVES:
* Does my head in checking who coaches each team for every trade :)
Do I have to PM my list in order for my trades already confirmed and listed in the trade window #2 post to go through?
My list on team thread is 100% accurate for post window 2.
Quote from: Jayman on January 14, 2013, 10:02:33 PM
Do I have to PM my list in order for my trades already confirmed and listed in the trade window #2 post to go through?
My list on team thread is 100% accurate for post window 2.
just need you to confirm that the list i have for you, in the team thread is correct as of RIGHT NOW BEFORE ANY TRADE WINDOW #2 TRADES.
just a PM to me saying its correct is all, if not stating what is incorrect. :)
if it is right on the official team list thread as of right now ( IGNORING ANY PROPOSED TRADE WINDOW #2 TRADES) pm me and you are good to go :)
EVERYONE ALSO CHECK IF YOU HAVE PROPOSED / PROMISED TRADE WINDOW #2 TRADES THAT THEY ARE IN THIS LIST - IF THEY ARE NOT POST THEM AGAIN AND AS WITH ALL TRADES PM TO ME ALSO.
http://www.fanfooty.com.au/forum/index.php/topic,68159.msg893181.html#msg893181
Let's get the ball rolling.
Bangladesh Bears (Adamant) gives: Shane Savage + Mason Shaw + Luke Hodge
Taiwan Dolphins (tor01doc) gives: Sharrod Wellingham + Trent Dennis-Lane + Alipate Carlile
tor01doc to confirm.
Quote from: Adamant on January 15, 2013, 12:07:00 AM
Let's get the ball rolling.
Bangladesh Bears (Adamant) gives: Shane Savage + Mason Shaw
Taiwan Dolphins (tor01doc) gives: Sharrod Wellingham + Trent Dennis-Lane
tor01doc to confirm.
Seriously?
Quote from: whatlez on January 15, 2013, 12:08:15 AM
Quote from: Adamant on January 15, 2013, 12:07:00 AM
Let's get the ball rolling.
Bangladesh Bears (Adamant) gives: Shane Savage + Mason Shaw
Taiwan Dolphins (tor01doc) gives: Sharrod Wellingham + Trent Dennis-Lane
tor01doc to confirm.
Seriously?
Forgot to add Hodge and Carlile haha.
It's better, but still... Yeah that's actually a lot fairer.
Quote from: Adamant on January 15, 2013, 12:11:24 AM
Quote from: whatlez on January 15, 2013, 12:08:15 AM
Quote from: Adamant on January 15, 2013, 12:07:00 AM
Let's get the ball rolling.
Bangladesh Bears (Adamant) gives: Shane Savage + Mason Shaw + The Mighty Luke Hodge
Taiwan Dolphins (tor01doc) gives: Sharrod Wellingham + Trent Dennis-Lane + Alipate Carlile
tor01doc confirms - just hope Savage stops wearing the vest.
All the trades that were listed for proposed for trade window #2 are approved except 2 which have been cancelled.
I am not updating the list movements or the team lists yet based on these trades to give coaches time to let me know if they are still going ahead with these trades or not.
Naturally as discussed there are consequences for reneging on a promised trade.
All new trades I will process and post tomorrow night.
Trade with meeeeeeeeeeeeee
Pendles, Ebert, Rioli, Dahl and Chrisso are untouchable at this point.
If anyone wants to trade with me, everyone besides Deledio and Greene could be traded
So how many list movements does people have in the second period updated?
Is the trade period open yet? I can't! not when on holiday!
PM me your old guns and I'll trade you some new JETs for your high average old farts.
PNG Headhunters (Monstrum) gives: Chris Mayne and Alex Fasolo
Lao Elephants (Whatlez) gives: David Swallow and Jeff Garlett
Mons to confirm.
Quote from: Nails on January 16, 2013, 08:03:23 PM
Is the trade period open yet? I can't! not when on holiday!
PM me your old guns and I'll trade you some new JETs for your high average old farts.
It is open Nails but don't panic, there has been ONE new trade only submitted yet and waiting for confirmation from the other party so you are not missing out on anything... yet.
A lot of the teams including you can't trade yet anyway until they have confirmed their lists to me :)
Quote from: whatlez on January 16, 2013, 09:26:53 PM
PNG Headhunters (Monstrum) gives: Chris Mayne and Alex Fasolo
Lao Elephants (Whatlez) gives: David Swallow and Jeff Garlett
Mons to confirm.
Affirmative
Quote from: Colliwobblers on January 17, 2013, 12:43:06 AM
Quote from: Nails on January 16, 2013, 08:03:23 PM
Is the trade period open yet? I can't! not when on holiday!
PM me your old guns and I'll trade you some new JETs for your high average old farts.
It is open Nails but don't panic, there has been ONE new trade only submitted yet and waiting for confirmation from the other party so you are not missing out on anything... yet.
A lot of the teams including you can't trade yet anyway until they have confirmed their lists to me :)
Your team lists thread says we have confirmed.
Good morning Asia,
My copy of the AFL prospectus thingo has just been delivered, woke me up but never mind.
Any of you have some pearls to cast before this swine as to how best use it?
Thanking you kindly.
PS Little Gary is training the Kerr-Ching stadium down here in Taipei!
I swear I don't know what you're saying half the time Doc,
Quote from: tbagrocks on January 17, 2013, 12:35:33 PM
I swear I don't know what you're saying half the time Doc,
Haha +1
Quote from: tor01doc on January 17, 2013, 12:17:14 PM
Good morning Asia,
Just greeting my fellow AXV coaches
My copy of the AFL prospectus thingo has just been delivered, woke me up but never mind.
The Champion data Prospectus was delivered and the gate bell woke me up.
Any of you have some pearls to cast before this swine as to how best use it?
Any of you clever people have any tips for me on how to use this publication?
Thanking you kindly.
Ta
PS Little Gary is training the Kerr-Ching stadium down here in Taipei!
A positive reference to my only good player!
Quote from: Jayman on January 17, 2013, 02:57:25 PM
Quote from: BB67th on January 17, 2013, 02:53:33 PM
Quote from: nrich102 on January 17, 2013, 12:58:44 PM
Quote from: JROO8 on January 17, 2013, 12:53:08 PM
Quote from: tbagrocks on January 17, 2013, 12:35:33 PM
I swear I don't know what you're saying half the time Doc,
Haha +1
LOL +2
+ 3
-1
-2
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Anyone keen to trade. I have Chris Mayne and Michael Barlow in a package if anyone is keen :)
Quote from: whatlez on January 17, 2013, 05:37:08 PM
Anyone keen to trade. I have Chris Mayne and Michael Barlow in a package if anyone is keen :)
Ill just have Mayne thanks
The trade we agreed to with Lez a while ago
S.Selwood + C.Moller
for
J.Riewoldt + B.Stratton
Quote from: picker_man on January 17, 2013, 09:24:28 PM
The trade we agreed to with Lez a while ago
S.Selwood + C.Moller
for
J.Riewoldt + B.Stratton
I'll accept ._.
Quote from: whatlez on January 17, 2013, 09:59:08 PM
Quote from: picker_man on January 17, 2013, 09:24:28 PM
The trade we agreed to with Lez a while ago
S.Selwood + C.Moller
for
J.Riewoldt + B.Stratton
I'll accept ._.
APPROVED
Quote from: monstrum on January 17, 2013, 11:21:05 AM
Quote from: whatlez on January 16, 2013, 09:26:53 PM
PNG Headhunters (Monstrum) gives: Chris Mayne and Alex Fasolo
Lao Elephants (Whatlez) gives: David Swallow and Jeff Garlett
Mons to confirm.
Affirmative
APPROVED
Quote from: tor01doc on January 15, 2013, 01:00:11 AM
Quote from: Adamant on January 15, 2013, 12:11:24 AM
Quote from: whatlez on January 15, 2013, 12:08:15 AM
Quote from: Adamant on January 15, 2013, 12:07:00 AM
Let's get the ball rolling.
Bangladesh Bears (Adamant) gives: Shane Savage + Mason Shaw + The Mighty Luke Hodge
Taiwan Dolphins (tor01doc) gives: Sharrod Wellingham + Trent Dennis-Lane + Alipate Carlile
tor01doc confirms - just hope Savage stops wearing the vest.
APPROVED
Quote from: Nails on January 17, 2013, 11:55:51 AM
Quote from: Colliwobblers on January 17, 2013, 12:43:06 AM
Quote from: Nails on January 16, 2013, 08:03:23 PM
Is the trade period open yet? I can't! not when on holiday!
PM me your old guns and I'll trade you some new JETs for your high average old farts.
It is open Nails but don't panic, there has been ONE new trade only submitted yet and waiting for confirmation from the other party so you are not missing out on anything... yet.
A lot of the teams including you can't trade yet anyway until they have confirmed their lists to me :)
Your team lists thread says we have confirmed.
I do recall you have confirmed so ignore my stupidity :-[
MONGOLIAN LAMBS (picker_man & Toga) give: M.Golby + A.Otten + B.Murdoch
TIBETAN LLAMAS (tbagrocks) give: P.Hanley + S.Darley + A.Boston
Quote from: Toga on January 17, 2013, 11:11:26 PM
MONGOLIAN LAMBS (picker_man & Toga) give: M.Golby + A.Otten + B.Murdoch
TIBETAN LLAMAS (tbagrocks) give: P.Hanley + S.Darley + A.Boston
This actually helps me short term as well as going forward, both defenders should when fit make the team as I was a little light on set to play defenders, saw an oppertunity to get Murdoch at the expence of a midfielder who could even should be a very good player
Long story short
CONFIRM
Quote from: tbagrocks on January 17, 2013, 11:51:37 PM
Quote from: Toga on January 17, 2013, 11:11:26 PM
MONGOLIAN LAMBS (picker_man & Toga) give: M.Golby + A.Otten + B.Murdoch
TIBETAN LLAMAS (tbagrocks) give: P.Hanley + S.Darley + A.Boston
This actually helps me short term as well as going forward, both defenders should when fit make the team as I was a little light on set to play defenders, saw an oppertunity to get Murdoch at the expence of a midfielder who could even should be a very good player
Long story short CONFIRM
Must rate Golby and Otten REALLY high :o
When does trading finish and Tbag check your messages >:(
Quote from: tbagrocks on January 17, 2013, 11:51:37 PM
Quote from: Toga on January 17, 2013, 11:11:26 PM
MONGOLIAN LAMBS (picker_man & Toga) give: M.Golby + A.Otten + B.Murdoch
TIBETAN LLAMAS (tbagrocks) give: P.Hanley + S.Darley + A.Boston
This actually helps me short term as well as going forward, both defenders should when fit make the team as I was a little light on set to play defenders, saw an oppertunity to get Murdoch at the expence of a midfielder who could even should be a very good player
Long story short CONFIRM
APPROVED
Quote from: whatlez on January 18, 2013, 01:30:43 AM
When does trading finish and Tbag check your messages >:(
At this stage it will finish at the start of the NAB cup however we have a few people away or going away so if possible I may extend it past that time.
***********************IMPORTANT************************
IT IS A SHOWERLOAD OF WORK FOR ME TO GO AND CHECK EVERY TRADE WINDOW #2 TRADE TO SEE IF PLAYERS BEING TRADED WERE TRADED INTO A TEAM IN TRADE WINDOW #1. ( IF THEY WERE IT DOESN'T COUNT AS A LIST MOVEMENT IN TRADE WINDOW #2)
SO I AM COUNTING ALL TRADES IN TRADE WINDOW #2 AS A NEW LIST MOVEMENT ( FOR NOW)
YOU THE TEAM COACH NEED TO PM ME IF ANY OF YOUR TRADE WINDOW #2 TRADES INVOLVE PLAYERS YOU HAVE ALREADY TRADED IN SO THAT I CAN CREDIT YOU THE LIST MOVEMENT BACK.
THANKS.
trade me your old farts you won't want in 1-2 seasons due to being too old that average high scores.
Go.
WON'T trade Grimes, Roughead, Pavlich or Buddy.
Quote from: Nails on January 19, 2013, 11:43:50 PM
trade me your old farts you won't want in 1-2 seasons due to being too old that average high scores.
Go.
WON'T trade Grimes, Roughead, Pavlich or Buddy.
ROK's still on the table for Pearce or Howlett ;)
Looking for a good forward. Will trade mids.
Oops - not him! ::)
trade with meeeeee
Are you back Coop? Or in USA still?
Quote from: KoopKicka on January 22, 2013, 07:45:23 PM
trade with meeeeee
Maybe no one trades with you cause you never reply ;)
Yeah im in the mood for trading as well! PM me if any Strikers interest you :D
Noz is back so all trades proposed so far have been approved and processed with team lists and remaining list movements now up to date for all teams.
All lists are confirmed everyone is available to trade.
REMEMBER FOR ALL TRADES ALREADY PROCESSED (ON THE LIST IN THIS THREAD) AND ALL FURUTE TRADES YOU PROPOSE...
YOU NEED TO PM ME TO TELL ME IF A PLAYER YOU TRADE OUT IS A PLAYER YOU TRADED IN IN EITHER TRADE PERIOD SO I CAN NOT COUNT IT AS A NEW LIST MOVEMENT FOR YOU.
please someone trade with me :'(
I need some high average oldies.
I'm after a defender.
Shaun Higgins, Colin Sylvia and Stephen Hill all on the trade table.
The Bears and Gazelles have struck a deal in the late hour of trade week(s)
The Gazelles have sent Daniel Kerr and have welcomed Sharrod Wellingham who is now at his third club.
The Gazelles would like to thank Kerr for his services in the off season and his input off the field has helped mature our younger crop of players.
We believe Sharrod can become a permeant member of the Gazelles starting 15.
Is that a joke trade or taking the piss?
The Gazelles have placed the following players up for trade.
Sam Fisher
Andrew Krakouer
Easton Wood
If you want to make an inquiry about anyone else pm me
*Does anyone know where the entire list of players who have changed positions are, I have been away for a while and haven't really kept up to date*
Quote from: whatlez on January 22, 2013, 11:27:34 PM
Is that a joke trade or taking the piss?
Was a bit iffy about this trade but i do believe Wellingham can have a good 2013.
Quote from: Noz on January 22, 2013, 11:31:13 PM
Quote from: whatlez on January 22, 2013, 11:27:34 PM
Is that a joke trade or taking the piss?
Was a bit iffy about this trade but i do believe Wellingham can have a good 2013.
I thought Adamant was trying to win the premiership... oh well, he's change his mind ::) lol.
Quote from: Noz on January 22, 2013, 11:25:29 PM
The Bears and Gazelles have struck a deal in the late hour of trade week(s)
The Gazelles have sent Daniel Kerr and have welcomed Sharrod Wellingham who is now at his third club.
The Gazelles would like to thank Kerr for his services in the off season and his input off the field has helped mature our younger crop of players.
We believe Sharrod can become a permeant member of the Gazelles starting 15.
What the flower are you on about Noz? I have never even spoken to you about a trade involving Wellingham and I wouldn't even consider this trade? :o
Trading a 29 year old in who averages 96. To a 24 year old Mid/Fwd who averages 111 and is at a new club.
Lol.
Go home Noz, you're drunk.
lol dafuq is going on?
While I'm here, I have players on the market, but I can see myself losing some of these players:
Dylan Shiel
Chris Mayne
Stewart Crameri
Alex Rance
Jarryn Geary
And others on my bench.
Rance, Crameri and Rance all interest me, lez. Have plenty of young guys to offer
Wait a minute it was in BXV i forgot i had a team in there
Whoops
Carry on Jayman.
Quote from: Noz on January 22, 2013, 11:40:57 PM
Wait a minute it was in BXV i forgot i had a team in there
Whoops
Someone still wants to trade you Wellingham for Kerr in British? :o
Quote from: BB67th on January 22, 2013, 11:44:43 PM
Quote from: Noz on January 22, 2013, 11:40:57 PM
Wait a minute it was in BXV i forgot i had a team in there
Whoops
Someone still wants to trade you Wellingham for Kerr in British? :o
Yeah i straight away declined.
Was pretty stoked i was getting Wellingham then i realised it was British :(
But then i remembered i already have Wellingham.
I should leave before i do something more stupid.
Quote from: Noz on January 22, 2013, 11:56:53 PM
Quote from: BB67th on January 22, 2013, 11:44:43 PM
Quote from: Noz on January 22, 2013, 11:40:57 PM
Wait a minute it was in BXV i forgot i had a team in there
Whoops
Someone still wants to trade you Wellingham for Kerr in British? :o
Yeah i straight away declined.
Was pretty stoked i was getting Wellingham then i realised it was British :(
But then i remembered i already have Wellingham
I should leave before i do something more stupid.
Haha, I was like "Wtf, I never agreed to this". Wellingham is a gun too, should improve by 5-10 points at West Coast. :)
Quote from: Adamant on January 23, 2013, 12:01:02 AM
Quote from: Noz on January 22, 2013, 11:56:53 PM
Quote from: BB67th on January 22, 2013, 11:44:43 PM
Quote from: Noz on January 22, 2013, 11:40:57 PM
Wait a minute it was in BXV i forgot i had a team in there
Whoops
Someone still wants to trade you Wellingham for Kerr in British? :o
Yeah i straight away declined.
Was pretty stoked i was getting Wellingham then i realised it was British :(
But then i remembered i already have Wellingham
I should leave before i do something more stupid.
Haha, I was like "Wtf, I never agreed to this". Wellingham is a gun too, should improve by 5-10 points at West Coast. :)
Haha yeah all your fwds are guns adz but ours will decline in ave like your great review on them ::)
Lol that was funny as Noz :P
Just more reason my bosses outside of Asia should contact me more often ;)
If there is any more reason as to why Asians is the greatest thing since Christs reserection then i'm a monkeys uncle
I can't wait for the Doc's responce here, should be a belter, if I can understand it :o
We'll last few posts have been prietty lame ::)
We're after an older defender any age who ave's prietty decent for 2 younger defenders?? or maybe Sidebum if price is
right ;)
Quote from: picker_man on January 23, 2013, 12:49:18 AM
We'll last few posts have been prietty lame ::)
We're after an older defender any age who ave's prietty decent for 2 younger defenders?? or maybe Sidebum if price is
right ;)
ok......l'd be happy to do Fletcher for Sidebottom 8)
Quote from: picker_man on January 23, 2013, 12:49:18 AM
We'll last few posts have been prietty lame ::)
We're after an older defender any age who ave's prietty decent for 2 younger defenders?? or maybe Sidebum if price is
right ;)
So one of those would be yours? :P
Sorry to intrude on the thread, but make sure people get any questions they have for the Folders press conference before it starts. Haven't received any questions yet so get some in!
Quote from: BB67th on January 23, 2013, 09:28:04 PM
Sorry to intrude on the thread, but make sure people get any questions they have for the Folders press conference before it starts. Haven't received any questions yet so get some in!
Ok, my question is......."Why are you holding a press conference?"
Clancee Pearce
Averaged 117 (unsubbed) as a 21yo. Is a total jet and quite a gun. Decent chance at winning DPP back for 2014 season imo.
Taking offers for him. After premo fwd or back. (Can be an older player)
Ok guys we've got a couple of players that we want to test the waters with
Chris Dawes .....we see him as being a big improver this year and worthy of a starting place on most teams, even if your strong enough in your forwards not to have him on ground he'd be fantastic bench cover (easily in Melbournes best 22 and part of their leadership group)
Dustin Fletcher .....stop laughing and think about it. The guy is a legend, and would be a starter for some teams. For those teams in contention for this years premiership, he'd be very good bench cover. lts also worth noting that against certain teams he has a fantastic record, so could also be used as a pinch hitter as well as excellent bench cover.
So if you want either of these players, PM me your offers.......we're pretty open minded about players we recieve, they just need to be young to fit in with our youth policy
I am putting Shaun Grigg on the trade pile. High-120 average last year at just age 24 - he is a solid VC option for any team.
PM me your offers - after backs, fwds and a backup ruck
The Folders are looking for a high scoring forward.
We are willing to give up one of our defenders in Mackie, Nicholson or Gilbert. Pm me any offers you have.
Okay I'm going all out here.
Taylor Walker is back on the trading block :O
Quote from: Jayman on January 24, 2013, 12:35:16 PM
I am putting Shaun Grigg on the trade pile. High-120 average last year at just age 24 - he is a solid VC option for any team.
PM me your offers - after backs, fwds and a backup ruck
Reply to my pm ;)
We can give you fwds & a back-up ruck!
Quote from: Toga on January 24, 2013, 08:38:31 PM
Quote from: Jayman on January 24, 2013, 12:35:16 PM
I am putting Shaun Grigg on the trade pile. High-120 average last year at just age 24 - he is a solid VC option for any team.
PM me your offers - after backs, fwds and a backup ruck
Reply to my pm ;)
We can give you fwds & a back-up ruck!
Sorry just saw that - replying now ;)
Bangladesh Bears (Adamant) gives: Michael Johnson + Brent Reilly
Manila Folders (BB67th) gives: Jordan Lewis + Ryan Crowley
BB to confirm.
Quote from: Adamant on January 24, 2013, 10:18:00 PM
Bangladesh Bears (Adamant) gives: Michael Johnson + Brent Reilly
Manila Folders (BB67th) gives: Jordan Lewis + Ryan Crowley
BB to confirm.
Confirm this trade
The Folders also have another trade to go through now.
Manila Folders (BB67th) give: Daniel Nicholson
Lao Elephants (Whatlez) give: Chris Mayne
Whatlez to confirm
Also guys, the Folders' press conference will be up momentarily, so head over to our team thread to check it out!
Quote from: BB67th on January 24, 2013, 10:21:35 PM
The Folders also have another trade to go through now.
Manila Folders (BB67th) give: Daniel Nicholson
Lao Elephants (Whatlez) give: Chris Mayne
Whatlez to confirm
Also guys, the Folders' press conference will be up momentarily, so head over to our team thread to check it out!
Decline.
Lol jokes.
Confirm 8)
Quote from: BB67th on January 24, 2013, 10:19:32 PM
Quote from: Adamant on January 24, 2013, 10:18:00 PM
Bangladesh Bears (Adamant) gives: Michael Johnson + Brent Reilly
Manila Folders (BB67th) gives: Jordan Lewis + Ryan Crowley
BB to confirm.
Confirm this trade
Nice trade BB :)
Sandover medalist, Kane Mitchell is up for trade for a decent averaging defender. Don't mind what age.
For people trying to contact me l have exceeded 20 messages in an hour, so l'm a bit stuck for a while.....sorry guys. Looks like all the trade talk will have to wait for a while
Quote from: nostradamus on January 25, 2013, 12:59:44 AM
For people trying to contact me l have exceeded 20 messages in an hour, so l'm a bit stuck for a while.....sorry guys. Looks like all the trade talk will have to wait for a while
Yeah that's the problem with sending messages to two of us in one :(
Quote from: whatlez on January 25, 2013, 01:03:01 AM
Quote from: nostradamus on January 25, 2013, 12:59:44 AM
For people trying to contact me l have exceeded 20 messages in an hour, so l'm a bit stuck for a while.....sorry guys. Looks like all the trade talk will have to wait for a while
Yeah that's the problem with sending messages to two of us in one :(
Damn it!!!
.....but still send through proposals and l'll answer when l can
I'm willing to chuck someone like Liam Shiels on the trade table. I'm looking for a forward.
Quote from: whatlez on January 24, 2013, 10:23:20 PM
Quote from: BB67th on January 24, 2013, 10:21:35 PM
The Folders also have another trade to go through now.
Manila Folders (BB67th) give: Daniel Nicholson
Lao Elephants (Whatlez) give: Chris Mayne
Whatlez to confirm
Also guys, the Folders' press conference will be up momentarily, so head over to our team thread to check it out!
Decline.
Lol jokes.
Confirm 8)
APPROVED - Listed on trade list but list movements and team lists not updated from this trade yet.
Quote from: BB67th on January 24, 2013, 10:19:32 PM
Quote from: Adamant on January 24, 2013, 10:18:00 PM
Bangladesh Bears (Adamant) gives: Michael Johnson + Brent Reilly
Manila Folders (BB67th) gives: Jordan Lewis + Ryan Crowley
BB to confirm.
Confirm this trade
APPROVED - Listed on trade list but list movements and team lists not updated from this trade yet.
Due to a certain coaches misunderstanding I think, a little confused by his reaction myself, I will clarify my above comment on the last two trades.
They are APPROVED - But not PROCESSED yet. This means I have not counted the list movements in my tally on the trade list yet or moved the players in the trade from each team to the other on the teams Lists in the trade thread.
This has nothing to do with teams lists being confirmed or not, I think I posted earlier quite clearly that every team list is now confirmed.
Actually I know I did.
Quote from: Colliwobblers on January 25, 2013, 10:39:32 AM
Due to a certain coaches misunderstanding I think, a little confused by his reaction myself, I will clarify my above comment on the last two trades.
They are APPROVED - But not PROCESSED yet. This means I have not counted the list movements in my tally on the trade list yet or moved the players in the trade from each team to the other on the teams Lists in the trade thread.
This has nothing to do with teams lists being confirmed or not, I think I posted earlier quite clearly that every team list is now confirmed.
Actually I know I did.
l thought it was pretty clear
I'm still after a defender. Willing to part with anyone on my team besides Brett Deledio, Toby Greene and Hamish Hartlett
Look at my team thread
http://www.fanfooty.com.au/forum/index.php/topic,68409.msg900608.html#msg900608
and pm me!
Lambs are after a premium back and are willing to trade stars in Steele Sidebottom, Mitch Clark, Jay Schulz and Matthew Priddis. PM me with offers.
If you are looking for some young backline breakout players I have on the table:
Tom McDonald
Ryan Harwood
Jarryn Geary
Josh Bootsma
Maverick Weller
Seb Tape
Also willing to sell some strong mids
Michael Barlow
Liam Shiels
Edit: Looking for a forward under the age of 25 who can fit on my field (odviously will need 2 of them)
The Bangkok Crabs would like to announce, that after protracted trade talks involving Stanton, Prestia, Mzungu, Yarran, Harbrow, Fletcher & Dawes, that negotiations have stagnated.
So if you have interest in any of these player send through a PM and we'll go from there
Quote from: nostradamus on January 26, 2013, 09:35:40 PM
The Bangkok Crabs would like to announce, that after protracted trade talks involving Stanton, Prestia, Mzungu, Yarran, Harbrow, Fletcher & Dawes, that negotiations have stagnated.
So if you have interest in any of these player send through a PM and we'll go from there
lf you have any proposals, send them to RidleyU as well......he's my Senior Assistant
*l'll be camping, fishing and drinking until tomorrow arvo 8)
The Bangkok Crabs would like to announce a trade with the UAE Tigers
We give .....Brent Stanton + Chris Yarran + Dustin Fletcher
JROO8 gives....Jack Steven + Jake Stringer + Luke Tapscott
This is a great deal for both teams. lt helps JROO8 in the race for the innaugural AXV premiership, and it strengthens our very young teams hopes in a few years time.
JROO to confirm 8)
Quote from: nostradamus on January 29, 2013, 12:32:29 AM
The Bangkok Crabs would like to announce a trade with the UAE Tigers
We give .....Brent Stanton + Chris Yarran + Dustin Fletcher
JROO8 gives....Jack Steven + Jake Stringer + Luke Tapscott
This is a great deal for both teams. lt helps JROO8 in the race for the innaugural AXV premiership, and it strengthens our very young teams hopes in a few years time.
JROO to confirm 8)
Yep confirm, improves my defence and midfield while giving up a bit of youth
Quote from: nostradamus on January 29, 2013, 12:32:29 AM
The Bangkok Crabs would like to announce a trade with the UAE Tigers
We give .....Brent Stanton + Chris Yarran + Dustin Fletcher
JROO8 gives....Jack Steven + Jake Stringer + Luke Tapscott
This is a great deal for both teams. lt helps JROO8 in the race for the innaugural AXV premiership, and it strengthens our very young teams hopes in a few years time.
JROO to confirm 8)
Really? Stants was a 1st round pick! Doesn't look right to me...
Quote from: Jayman on January 29, 2013, 12:39:42 AM
Quote from: nostradamus on January 29, 2013, 12:32:29 AM
The Bangkok Crabs would like to announce a trade with the UAE Tigers
We give .....Brent Stanton + Chris Yarran + Dustin Fletcher
JROO8 gives....Jack Steven + Jake Stringer + Luke Tapscott
This is a great deal for both teams. lt helps JROO8 in the race for the innaugural AXV premiership, and it strengthens our very young teams hopes in a few years time.
JROO to confirm 8)
Really? Stants was a 1st round pick! Doesn't look right to me...
It's quite obvious that Nos is going for a younger team and Stanton is 26. He also gets rid of Fletcher who is 37 and brings in a number 5 draft pick and Jack Steven who will be a premium mid by the end of the year.
Quote from: Jayman on January 29, 2013, 12:39:42 AM
Quote from: nostradamus on January 29, 2013, 12:32:29 AM
The Bangkok Crabs would like to announce a trade with the UAE Tigers
We give .....Brent Stanton + Chris Yarran + Dustin Fletcher
JROO8 gives....Jack Steven + Jake Stringer + Luke Tapscott
This is a great deal for both teams. lt helps JROO8 in the race for the innaugural AXV premiership, and it strengthens our very young teams hopes in a few years time.
JROO to confirm 8)
Really? Stants was a 1st round pick! Doesn't look right to me...
l'm really happy with it......
Steven will be peaking when our young players are good scorers
Jake Stringer is an absolute gun
and Tappy has alot of potential
.....overalll our team is very very youth orientated, and by the time they matured Stants would be 30, and have been a total waste. This way we get a player who will be in his prime then, a young gun and a player who might just be a good player too.
:o :o :o
Who will your captain be now Nost? Steven? Prestia?
Sorry guys but it looks whacked to me. Colli has some work to do here...
Quote from: Adamant on January 29, 2013, 12:56:02 AM
:o :o :o
Who will your captain be now Nost? Steven? Prestia?
Steven
Well nost is out of the premiership window (sorry) and he doesn't have the youth to match or even tbag in the future 8)
But Yarran is a shower scorer.
If Rids gives it the all clear ,then it's alright.
Quote from: whatlez on January 29, 2013, 01:32:04 AM
Well nost is out of the premiership window (sorry) and he doesn't have the youth to match or even tbag in the future 8)
But Yarran is a shower scorer.
l think we've got the best youth in our league, have another look you might change your mind......
http://www.fanfooty.com.au/forum/index.php/topic,67213.0.html
Quote from: whatlez on January 29, 2013, 01:37:21 AM
If Rids gives it the all clear ,then it's alright.
Haha that's true.
Quote from: Adamant on January 29, 2013, 01:40:34 AM
Quote from: whatlez on January 29, 2013, 01:37:21 AM
If Rids gives it the all clear ,then it's alright.
Haha that's true.
Rids is very happy, was involved in the trade at every stage ;)
Quote from: nostradamus on January 29, 2013, 01:40:15 AM
Quote from: whatlez on January 29, 2013, 01:32:04 AM
Well nost is out of the premiership window (sorry) and he doesn't have the youth to match or even tbag in the future 8)
But Yarran is a shower scorer.
l think we've got the best youth in our league, have another look you might change your mind......
http://www.fanfooty.com.au/forum/index.php/topic,67213.0.html
I did have a look and was impressed, but I think my starting mids in a few years will be too premier for your developing mids.
And just a heads up guys.......We will still be active in trading ;)
We have Tendai Mzungu and Harry O'Brien on the table, and possibly one other
......and surprise surprise we are looking for youth :o
Like our last trade this will benefit the other team straight away, and we will reap our reward in seasons ahead.......and again both teams will be happy with it......shock, horror ::)
Quote from: nostradamus on January 29, 2013, 01:48:23 AM
And just a heads up guys.......We will still be active in trading ;)
We have Tendai Mzungu and Harry O'Brien on the table, and possibly one other
......and surprise surprise we are looking for youth :o
Like our last trade this will benefit the other team straight away, and we will reap our reward in seasons ahead.......and again both teams will be happy with it......shock, horror ::)
I don't mind it. Im just scared :o haha nah, but you have potential in 3-4 years I have 1-2 and for 3 years on the top 8)
Quote from: whatlez on January 29, 2013, 01:51:51 AM
Quote from: nostradamus on January 29, 2013, 01:48:23 AM
And just a heads up guys.......We will still be active in trading ;)
We have Tendai Mzungu and Harry O'Brien on the table, and possibly one other
......and surprise surprise we are looking for youth :o
Like our last trade this will benefit the other team straight away, and we will reap our reward in seasons ahead.......and again both teams will be happy with it......shock, horror ::)
I don't mind it. Im just scared :o haha nah, but you have potential in 3-4 years I have 1-2 and for 3 years on the top 8)
3 years on top :o ......lmfao, no-one will ever be on top for 3 years. Well apart from the mighty Crabs that is 8)
Quote from: nostradamus on January 29, 2013, 12:32:29 AM
The Bangkok Crabs would like to announce a trade with the UAE Tigers
We give .....Brent Stanton + Chris Yarran + Dustin Fletcher
JROO8 gives....Jack Steven + Jake Stringer + Luke Tapscott
This is a great deal for both teams. lt helps JROO8 in the race for the innaugural AXV premiership, and it strengthens our very young teams hopes in a few years time.
JROO to confirm 8)
APPROVEDNot ridiculously uneven, Fletcher has one season left to be sure, tapscott and steven are likely future stars,
I would say stanton + Fletcher = Steven + tapscott, and I would say the other two are pretty irrelevant.
Close enough to even nowhere near to ridiculous. Stanton is the unbalance, but steven and tapscott both are younger than him and as I said fletcher is a one season prospect. Surely hibberd will be ready to replace him in 2014.
Quote from: nostradamus on January 29, 2013, 01:41:55 AM
Quote from: Adamant on January 29, 2013, 01:40:34 AM
Quote from: whatlez on January 29, 2013, 01:37:21 AM
If Rids gives it the all clear ,then it's alright.
Haha that's true.
Rids is very happy, was involved in the trade at every stage ;)
Just remembered that Rids hates Stanton though lol.
Quote from: Colliwobblers on January 29, 2013, 01:57:05 AM
Quote from: nostradamus on January 29, 2013, 12:32:29 AM
The Bangkok Crabs would like to announce a trade with the UAE Tigers
We give .....Brent Stanton + Chris Yarran + Dustin Fletcher
JROO8 gives....Jack Steven + Jake Stringer + Luke Tapscott
This is a great deal for both teams. lt helps JROO8 in the race for the innaugural AXV premiership, and it strengthens our very young teams hopes in a few years time.
JROO to confirm 8)
APPROVED
Not ridiculously uneven, Fletcher has one season left to be sure, tapscott and steven are likely future stars,
I would say stanton + Fletcher = Steven + tapscott, and I would say the other two are pretty irrelevant.
Close enough to even nowhere near to ridiculous. Stanton is the unbalance, but steven and tapscott both are younger than him and as I said fletcher is a one season prospect. Surely hibberd will be ready to replace him in 2014.
Thanks Colli
*the voice of reason* 8)
After quality defenders...
Please PM me, I got young premo mids up for offer
Clancee Pearce (117 unsub) Howlett (117)
James Kelly 128 ave
give me some 100+ ave defenders kgo.
Yeah the only thing is Tapscott isnt ever going to be a star haha.
Good Jroo though after having some spud players.
Quote from: whatlez on January 29, 2013, 03:13:44 AM
Yeah the only thing is Tapscott isnt ever going to be a star haha.
Good Jroo though after having some spud players.
3rd season this year tapscot will breakout which still only means about a 70 odd DT average but i think he will get to the lower level of premium and reach and maintain a defenders DT average of 80-85 just scraping into premium, he could surprise us and do better...
Willing to give up 137ppg, 25y.o Kieren Jack for a young 100ppg defender
PM me
Quote from: Colliwobblers on January 29, 2013, 01:57:05 AM
Quote from: nostradamus on January 29, 2013, 12:32:29 AM
The Bangkok Crabs would like to announce a trade with the UAE Tigers
We give .....Brent Stanton + Chris Yarran + Dustin Fletcher
JROO8 gives....Jack Steven + Jake Stringer + Luke Tapscott
This is a great deal for both teams. lt helps JROO8 in the race for the innaugural AXV premiership, and it strengthens our very young teams hopes in a few years time.
JROO to confirm 8)
APPROVED
Not ridiculously uneven, Fletcher has one season left to be sure, tapscott and steven are likely future stars,
I would say stanton + Fletcher = Steven + tapscott, and I would say the other two are pretty irrelevant.
Close enough to even nowhere near to ridiculous. Stanton is the unbalance, but steven and tapscott both are younger than him and as I said fletcher is a one season prospect. Surely hibberd will be ready to replace him in 2014.
Great call Colli.
I could not be happier with this trade. Both parties walk away very happy with the outcome. Thanks to JROO for all the negotiations over the past few days. Has been fun!
Stringer will be fwd only for 2013. Will gain DPP M/F in 2014 and become a star!
Tapscott has been dogged by injury and suspension his first couple of years in the system. I think this kid will go bang over the next 2 years. Melbourne don't exactly have a surplus of big bodied midfielders.
I think everyone agrees that Jack Steven will be an out and out premium by the end of the year and is young enough to compete with our up and coming young guns in 2 years time! St Kilda also have plenty of opportunity arising with Goddard leaving and Hayes prob playing his last season in 2013. Steven will also become our auto captain choice!
Quote from: Jayman on January 29, 2013, 10:56:06 AM
Willing to give up 137ppg, 26y.o Kieren Jack for a young 100ppg defender
PM me
25 year old*. Even better ;)
If anyone's interested in a premium midfielder, I have Brent Stanton who may be moved on if I can get a defender + a midfielder.
He could be packaged up with Sylvia and Higgins as well.
The Bangkok Crabs would like to announce another deal with the UAE Tigers.......
We give Jarrod Harbrow, Tigers give Jesse Lonergan
JROO8 to confirm 8)
Quote from: nostradamus on January 30, 2013, 09:32:04 PM
The Bangkok Crabs would like to announce another deal with the UAE Tigers.......
We give Jarrod Harbrow, Tigers give Jesse Lonergan
JROO8 to confirm 8)
Confirm.
Good doing business with you... again :)
Quote from: JROO8 on January 30, 2013, 09:33:29 PM
Quote from: nostradamus on January 30, 2013, 09:32:04 PM
The Bangkok Crabs would like to announce another deal with the UAE Tigers.......
We give Jarrod Harbrow, Tigers give Jesse Lonergan
JROO8 to confirm 8)
Confirm.
Good doing business with you... again :)
Ok now I'm getting scared :S... If I knew Harbrow was available, I might of dished a little more ;)
Quote from: whatlez on January 30, 2013, 09:45:34 PM
Quote from: JROO8 on January 30, 2013, 09:33:29 PM
Quote from: nostradamus on January 30, 2013, 09:32:04 PM
The Bangkok Crabs would like to announce another deal with the UAE Tigers.......
We give Jarrod Harbrow, Tigers give Jesse Lonergan
JROO8 to confirm 8)
Confirm.
Good doing business with you... again :)
Ok now I'm getting scared :S... If I knew Harbrow was available, I might of dished a little more ;)
Yea id have payed more then Lonergan for him
Quote from: whatlez on January 30, 2013, 09:45:34 PM
Quote from: JROO8 on January 30, 2013, 09:33:29 PM
Quote from: nostradamus on January 30, 2013, 09:32:04 PM
The Bangkok Crabs would like to announce another deal with the UAE Tigers.......
We give Jarrod Harbrow, Tigers give Jesse Lonergan
JROO8 to confirm 8)
Confirm.
Good doing business with you... again :)
Ok now I'm getting scared :S... If I knew Harbrow was available, I might of dished a little more ;)
Our list of young future elite Mids is looking pretty good now.....
Steven, Prestia, Treloar, Adams, O'Meara, Crouch, Lonergan 8)
Quote from: nostradamus on January 30, 2013, 09:54:29 PM
Quote from: whatlez on January 30, 2013, 09:45:34 PM
Quote from: JROO8 on January 30, 2013, 09:33:29 PM
Quote from: nostradamus on January 30, 2013, 09:32:04 PM
The Bangkok Crabs would like to announce another deal with the UAE Tigers.......
We give Jarrod Harbrow, Tigers give Jesse Lonergan
JROO8 to confirm 8)
Confirm.
Good doing business with you... again :)
Ok now I'm getting scared :S... If I knew Harbrow was available, I might of dished a little more ;)
Our list of young future elite Mids is looking pretty good now.....
Steven, Prestia, Treloar, Adams, O'Meara, Crouch, Lonergan 8)
Going to be a very strong Midfiled in 3-4 years time 8)
Quote from: nostradamus on January 30, 2013, 09:32:04 PM
The Bangkok Crabs would like to announce another deal with the UAE Tigers.......
Nostradamus gives Jarrod Harbrow
JROO8 gives Jesse Lonergan
JROO8 to confirm 8)
APPROVED
Anyone keen on Stanton?
Looking for a midfielder + a forward
For Stanton + Fletcher
PM if interested :)
Quote from: JROO8 on January 30, 2013, 10:11:26 PM
Quote from: nostradamus on January 30, 2013, 09:54:29 PM
Quote from: whatlez on January 30, 2013, 09:45:34 PM
Quote from: JROO8 on January 30, 2013, 09:33:29 PM
Quote from: nostradamus on January 30, 2013, 09:32:04 PM
The Bangkok Crabs would like to announce another deal with the UAE Tigers.......
We give Jarrod Harbrow, Tigers give Jesse Lonergan
JROO8 to confirm 8)
Confirm.
Good doing business with you... again :)
Ok now I'm getting scared :S... If I knew Harbrow was available, I might of dished a little more ;)
Our list of young future elite Mids is looking pretty good now.....
Steven, Prestia, Treloar, Adams, O'Meara, Crouch, Lonergan 8)
Going to be a very strong Midfiled in 3-4 years time 8)
I'll be finished by then ;)
Wish someone would pm me :(
Anyone got a player in the top 30 averages for the comp?
You could get a 117 average 21yo + someone else for your 1 gun.
Dane Swan to be + Good player for 1 good player...
Sounds like a dream, ey?
Sell me a forward born after 1987 :)
Collie how goes the final team ratings? ;)
Quote from: JBs-Hawks on January 31, 2013, 08:26:38 PM
Collie how goes the final team ratings? ;)
having a real job is over rated, i got home at 7pm last night and worked till 1am.
today i am home early i will process the two recent trades and make those team movements and then get on with rating the remaining teams.
good way of finding out in the prospectus who each rook plays for by name and what freako thinks of them at the same time, but a little time consuming.
should finish it tonight.
All good mate no rush just curious :)
Sri Lanka Strikers give: Shaun Grigg, Jeremy Howe, Shannon Hurn
Mongolia Lambs give: Steele Sidebottom, Mitch Clarke, Sam Darley
TOGA TO CONFIRM
This trade costs me 1 list movement as both Howe and Hurn are being on-traded
Quote from: Jayman on February 01, 2013, 12:48:17 PM
Sri Lanka Strikers give: Shaun Grigg, Jeremy Howe, Shannon Hurn
Mongolia Lambs give: Steele Sidebottom, Mitch Clarke, Sam Darley
TOGA TO CONFIRM
This trade costs me 1 list movement as both Howe and Hurn are being on-traded
A big
CONFIRM from me :P
Hurn provides much needed relief to my backline at the expense of two gun players in Clark & Sidebottom, who will be replaced by Grigg & Howe.
*Sidey, Clark and Darley are all being on-traded, so this trade costs us no list movements.*
Sri Lanka Strikers give: Andrew Gaff and Luke Brown
Tibet Llamas give: Mitch Golby and Hamish Mcintosh
TBAG TO CONFIRM
This costs 1 list movement as Gaff is being on-traded
I like it. Good trades Jay. Wish you were more active in British ;)
Quote from: Jayman on February 01, 2013, 03:51:42 PM
Sri Lanka Strikers give: Andrew Gaff and Luke Brown
Tibet Llamas give: Mitch Golby and Hamish Mcintosh
TBAG TO CONFIRM
This costs 1 list movement as Gaff is being on-traded
Sheesh what a busy 24 hours in fantasy land, nice working with you J to bad on JJ :-\
Confirm, a solid Midfielder to help us next year, of course most know my love for Browny i'm sure J is sorry to lose him but his team is ready to challange this year!
Quote from: tbagrocks on February 01, 2013, 06:45:19 PM
Quote from: Jayman on February 01, 2013, 03:51:42 PM
Sri Lanka Strikers give: Andrew Gaff and Luke Brown
Tibet Llamas give: Mitch Golby and Hamish Mcintosh
TBAG TO CONFIRM
This costs 1 list movement as Gaff is being on-traded
Sheesh what a busy 24 hours in fantasy land, nice working with you J to bad on JJ :-\
Confirm, a solid Midfielder to help us next year, of course most know my love for Browny i'm sure J is sorry to lose him but his team is ready to challange this year!
how many list movements tbag? for this trade - I have taken 2 off you for it, if one or both players is ontraded let me know so I can give you back the list movements.
thanks.
Golby was traded in mate, one movement cheers
Quote from: tbagrocks on February 02, 2013, 06:00:06 PM
Golby was traded in mate, one movement cheers
fixed - all trades to this point are processed and list movements and lists are adjusted accordingly. (lists on trade thread only are up to date.)
Anyone need a defender?
I have Hartlett (would need a very good offer), Yarran and Harbrow. Looking for a decent midfielder. PM if interested 8)
In desperate need for a few more forwards pm me if you want to make a trade for one.
Quote from: Noz on February 03, 2013, 01:58:36 AM
In desperate need for a few more forwards pm me if you want to make a trade for one.
Reply to my pm 8)
Ok I haven't made a trade yet time to get serious about a defender, i need a premium defender or at least a rapidly improving young defender who is worthy of a starting spot in any AXVS side week in week out,
Also a ruckman not an ultra premium no one would trade their starting ruckman but anyone who has a great backup option again for the right player the following are potentially available.
for the right player I am prepared to table the following;
Bartel !
Thomas !
Dom Tyson !
Jake Melksham
Anthony Miles
Chris Judd !
Isaac Smith
Luke Parker
Johnathon O'Rourke !
Quote from: Colliwobblers on February 03, 2013, 08:52:26 PM
Ok I haven't made a trade yet time to get serious about a defender, i need a premium defender or at least a rapidly improving young defender who is worthy of a starting spot in any AXVS side week in week out,
Also a ruckman not an ultra premium no one would trade their starting ruckman but anyone who has a great backup option again for the right player the following are potentially available.
for the right player I am prepared to table the following;
Bartel !
Thomas !
Dom Tyson !
Jake Melksham
Anthony Miles
Chris Judd !
Isaac Smith
Luke Parker
Johnathon O'Rourke !
The Bears have the best backline in the AXVs. PM me who you want for Daisy/Bartel.
Also, when will the Team Values be completed? Only Jay, whatlez and myself to go. 8)
Quote from: Adamant on February 03, 2013, 09:21:24 PM
Also, when will the Team Values be completed? Only Jay, whatlez and myself to go. 8)
sorry i'll do it now got a few player research things done today, guilt got the better of me :)
Quote from: Colliwobblers on February 03, 2013, 09:34:36 PM
Quote from: Adamant on February 03, 2013, 09:21:24 PM
Also, when will the Team Values be completed? Only Jay, whatlez and myself to go. 8)
sorry i'll do it now got a few player research things done today, guilt got the better of me :)
Thanks mate, our team value of 196 is 2nd only behind BB.
If BB didn't have Swanny as that massive captain option, I think we'd be the favourite.
Quote from: Adamant on February 03, 2013, 10:00:24 PM
Quote from: Colliwobblers on February 03, 2013, 09:34:36 PM
Quote from: Adamant on February 03, 2013, 09:21:24 PM
Also, when will the Team Values be completed? Only Jay, whatlez and myself to go. 8)
sorry i'll do it now got a few player research things done today, guilt got the better of me :)
Thanks mate, our team value of 196 is 2nd only behind BB.
If BB didn't have Swanny as that massive captain option, I think we'd be the favourite.
Lambs have some underrated players ;) Watch out lads, we're coming!
Adamant has someone like Wellingham who only has a 4, buy should be at least a 6 ??? And how is Stevie Johnson only a 6?
Quote from: whatlez on February 03, 2013, 10:13:24 PM
Adamant has someone like Wellingham who only has a 4, buy should be at least a 6 ??? And how is Stevie Johnson only a 6?
Yeah, I noticed SJ on 6 too. ???
We also have Mundy and Fyfe who both had injury ravaged seasons, and Dusty who just underperformed. They'll all smash their 2012 averages.
And tbag at 105... -_-
Danger at 9 and the rest at 4 or less... -_-
Quote from: Adamant on February 03, 2013, 10:18:52 PM
Quote from: whatlez on February 03, 2013, 10:13:24 PM
Adamant has someone like Wellingham who only has a 4, buy should be at least a 6 ??? And how is Stevie Johnson only a 6?
Yeah, I noticed SJ on 6 too. ???
We also have Mundy and Fyfe who both had injury ravaged seasons, and Dusty who just underperformed. They'll all smash their 2012 averages.
since he was mid only last year could SJ be being ranked on mids? ???
Quote from: Toga on February 03, 2013, 10:28:30 PM
Quote from: Adamant on February 03, 2013, 10:18:52 PM
Quote from: whatlez on February 03, 2013, 10:13:24 PM
Adamant has someone like Wellingham who only has a 4, buy should be at least a 6 ??? And how is Stevie Johnson only a 6?
Yeah, I noticed SJ on 6 too. ???
We also have Mundy and Fyfe who both had injury ravaged seasons, and Dusty who just underperformed. They'll all smash their 2012 averages.
since he was mid only last year could SJ be being ranked on mids? ???
Steve was forward only... :-X
Quote from: whatlez on February 03, 2013, 10:30:23 PM
Quote from: Toga on February 03, 2013, 10:28:30 PM
Quote from: Adamant on February 03, 2013, 10:18:52 PM
Quote from: whatlez on February 03, 2013, 10:13:24 PM
Adamant has someone like Wellingham who only has a 4, buy should be at least a 6 ??? And how is Stevie Johnson only a 6?
Yeah, I noticed SJ on 6 too. ???
We also have Mundy and Fyfe who both had injury ravaged seasons, and Dusty who just underperformed. They'll all smash their 2012 averages.
since he was mid only last year could SJ be being ranked on mids? ???
Steve was forward only... :-X
I think he means Wellingham and yeah, that's probably why.
Quote from: Adamant on February 03, 2013, 10:31:10 PM
Quote from: whatlez on February 03, 2013, 10:30:23 PM
Quote from: Toga on February 03, 2013, 10:28:30 PM
Quote from: Adamant on February 03, 2013, 10:18:52 PM
Quote from: whatlez on February 03, 2013, 10:13:24 PM
Adamant has someone like Wellingham who only has a 4, buy should be at least a 6 ??? And how is Stevie Johnson only a 6?
Yeah, I noticed SJ on 6 too. ???
We also have Mundy and Fyfe who both had injury ravaged seasons, and Dusty who just underperformed. They'll all smash their 2012 averages.
since he was mid only last year could SJ be being ranked on mids? ???
Steve was forward only... :-X
I think he means Wellingham and yeah, that's probably why.
oops shower yeah meant Wellingham ::)
Quote from: whatlez on February 03, 2013, 10:13:24 PM
Adamant has someone like Wellingham who only has a 4, buy should be at least a 6 ??? And how is Stevie Johnson only a 6?
Ratings are straight out of the prospectus (champion data) and are weighted with points by me as descibed in the link below;
the reasoning for my allocation of points is as folows...
it is a rating for this season only, totally ignores future stars, and totaly ignores elite players about to retire or break down.
9 points for an elite player - there is a huge gap between these and all others.
6 points for above average the difference between these players and average players is not so great
4 points for average players again as descibed for above average reasoning
2 points for below average players again as described for above average reasoning
1 point for poor - these guys were significantly worse than all other players.
3 points for a top 5 draft pick, even tho zorko and greene were not this is what is possible first season from the top 5 draft picks.
2 points for a first round draft pick, again slightly higher chance of contributing to your team in their first season.
1 point for all other draftees, little to no chance of making a major contribution to your team in their first season.
OF COURSE there are exceptions to all the above and of course the rankings give KPP defenders elite status and (9) points where they can be close to worthless in this competition.
so it isnt gospel or even very accurate in rating for our competition but it is EXACTLY ACCURATE in rating the quality of players we have on our lists according to real life AFL, and it is UNBIASED.
best I could come up with to rate the teams, and to be honest it looks about right so far (for 2013 only - then it all changes again).
Link: http://www.fanfooty.com.au/forum/index.php/topic,70532.msg960394.html#msg960394
explains how champion date defines the rankings elite average ect, and what points i allocated to each category.
Where is our actual rating
Thought I'd post all rankings in order here for an easier view.
1. Manila Folders (BB67th) - 199
2. Bangladesh Bears (Adamant) - 197
3. Hong Kong Dongs (Nails) - 194
4. Taiwan Dolphins (tor01doc) - 191
5. Mongolian Lambs (Toga & picker_man) - 185
6. Turkey Gazelles (Noz) - 167
7. UAE Tigers (JROO8) - 165
8. Australian Ales (JBs-Hawks) - 165
9. Sri Lanka Strikers (Jayman) - 163
10. Kathmandu Eskimos (KoopKicka) - 160
11. KL Crocodiles (Maca24 & Sid) - 154
12. PNG HeadHunters (monstrum) - 148
13. Lao Elephants (whatlez) - 147
14. Vietnam Vipers (Colliwobblers) - 145
15. Bangkok Crabs (nostradamus) - 125
16. Tibetan Llamas (tbagrocks) - 109
Thanks Adamant I just finished the last team and have moved them into rankings order. again the rankings are obviously flawed or the mighty vipers would be much much much much much much higher, surely, i demand a recount.
http://www.fanfooty.com.au/forum/index.php/topic,68159.msg893180.html#msg893180
Quote from: Colliwobblers on February 03, 2013, 11:34:08 PM
Thanks Adamant I just finished the last team and have moved them into rankings order. again the rankings are obviously flawed or the mighty vipers would be much much much much much much higher, surely, i demand a recount.
http://www.fanfooty.com.au/forum/index.php/topic,68159.msg893180.html#msg893180
I just did a re-count of mine and it's 197.
Quote from: Adamant on February 03, 2013, 11:12:31 PM
Thought I'd post all rankings in order here for an easier view.
1. Manila Folders (BB67th) - 199
2. Bangladesh Bears (Adamant) - 196
3. Hong Kong Dongs (Nails) - 194
4. Taiwan Dolphins (tor01doc) - 191
5. Mongolian Lambs (Toga & picker_man) - 185
6. Turkey Gazelles (Noz) - 167
7. UAE Tigers (JROO8) - 165
8. Australian Ales (JBs-Hawks) - 165
9. Sri Lanka Strikers (Jayman) - 163
10. Kathmandu Eskimos (KoopKicka) - 160
11. KL Crocodiles (Maca24 & Sid) - 154
12. PNG HeadHunters (monstrum) - 148
13. Lao Elephants (whatlez) - 145
14. Vietnam Vipers (Colliwobblers) - 145
15. Bangkok Crabs (nostradamus) - 125
16. Tibetan Llamas (tbagrocks) - 109
we're a bit higher than l expected :P
lol nost, don't worry that rating would be mine in British but i have over 20 first round draft picks in that comps team over the past 3 seasons so it is a plan to be great in the future.
certain teams have done that here and i think there will be a certain joy and satisfaction in watching the team you have develop and in a season or two or three go past most other teams as they have stars retire ect. ect.
as I said expect the 2014 ratings to be very different as last 2 years rooks develop and older players retire or drop off.
we will see, well done to the teams who are up the top will no doubt be the challenges for the title this season but hopefully we are all here for many seasons and i imagine over the next few much will change.
Quote from: Adamant on February 03, 2013, 11:40:23 PM
Quote from: Colliwobblers on February 03, 2013, 11:34:08 PM
Thanks Adamant I just finished the last team and have moved them into rankings order. again the rankings are obviously flawed or the mighty vipers would be much much much much much much higher, surely, i demand a recount.
http://www.fanfooty.com.au/forum/index.php/topic,68159.msg893180.html#msg893180
I just did a re-count of mine and it's 197.
i trust you i will change it. :)
i checked anyway for authenticity and you are right 197 it is.
I like how I see my team in the mid to higher area and I have one of the younger team 8)
Quote from: whatlez on February 03, 2013, 11:59:46 PM
I like how I see my team in the mid to higher area and I have one of the younger team 8)
your team as a few are is underrated with many players who must be right on the edge of going into the next bracket up, lots of 4's and 2's that are almost sure to be 6's and 4's this season right from the start, but that's how they rank them, as of the end of last season....
Quote from: Colliwobblers on February 04, 2013, 01:38:54 AM
Quote from: whatlez on February 03, 2013, 11:59:46 PM
I like how I see my team in the mid to higher area and I have one of the younger team 8)
your team as a few are is underrated with many players who must be right on the edge of going into the next bracket up, lots of 4's and 2's that are almost sure to be 6's and 4's this season right from the start, but that's how they rank them, as of the end of last season....
Ok I rated my team a little higher... Lol. But a lot of my players will up in ranks. E.g. Redden only a 6 ???
Quote from: whatlez on February 04, 2013, 01:52:04 AM
Quote from: Colliwobblers on February 04, 2013, 01:38:54 AM
Quote from: whatlez on February 03, 2013, 11:59:46 PM
I like how I see my team in the mid to higher area and I have one of the younger team 8)
your team as a few are is underrated with many players who must be right on the edge of going into the next bracket up, lots of 4's and 2's that are almost sure to be 6's and 4's this season right from the start, but that's how they rank them, as of the end of last season....
Ok I rated my team a little higher... Lol. But a lot of my players will up in ranks. E.g. Redden only a 6 ???
yeah and goldy, actually most of your 6's could be 9's next season if their improvement continues, but its more the 4s and the 2's that drag it down, you have some awesome 2's not the least patton and wines and green then all the 4's who are on the verge of 6's
Quote from: Colliwobblers on February 04, 2013, 01:57:08 AM
Quote from: whatlez on February 04, 2013, 01:52:04 AM
Quote from: Colliwobblers on February 04, 2013, 01:38:54 AM
Quote from: whatlez on February 03, 2013, 11:59:46 PM
I like how I see my team in the mid to higher area and I have one of the younger team 8)
your team as a few are is underrated with many players who must be right on the edge of going into the next bracket up, lots of 4's and 2's that are almost sure to be 6's and 4's this season right from the start, but that's how they rank them, as of the end of last season....
Ok I rated my team a little higher... Lol. But a lot of my players will up in ranks. E.g. Redden only a 6 ???
yeah and goldy, actually most of your 6's could be 9's next season if their improvement continues, but its more the 4s and the 2's that drag it down, you have some awesome 2's not the least patton and wines and green then all the 4's who are on the verge of 6's
Even Sam Day is only a 1 and he's a number 3 draft pick...
Quote from: whatlez on February 04, 2013, 01:59:08 AM
Quote from: Colliwobblers on February 04, 2013, 01:57:08 AM
Quote from: whatlez on February 04, 2013, 01:52:04 AM
Quote from: Colliwobblers on February 04, 2013, 01:38:54 AM
Quote from: whatlez on February 03, 2013, 11:59:46 PM
I like how I see my team in the mid to higher area and I have one of the younger team 8)
your team as a few are is underrated with many players who must be right on the edge of going into the next bracket up, lots of 4's and 2's that are almost sure to be 6's and 4's this season right from the start, but that's how they rank them, as of the end of last season....
Ok I rated my team a little higher... Lol. But a lot of my players will up in ranks. E.g. Redden only a 6 ???
yeah and goldy, actually most of your 6's could be 9's next season if their improvement continues, but its more the 4s and the 2's that drag it down, you have some awesome 2's not the least patton and wines and green then all the 4's who are on the verge of 6's
Even Sam Day is only a 1 and he's a number 3 draft pick...
woops, my bad you just went up 2 points he is worth (3).
still one behind monstrom but now clearly ahead of my shower outfit :)
actually because he played 15 games and was ranked as poor he should be 1 point, but it is borderline and it doesn't change the position your team is ranked so you can keep the (3) :) he was a top 5 draft pick after all i hope for his sake and the "local sides" it clicks for him this year.
Poor Sam Day, being thrown around like a $2 hooker.
Vipers Give: Dale Thomas + Johnathon Ceglar
Strikers Give: Hamish Mcintosh + Rhys Palmer
COLLI TO CONFIRM
Quote from: Colliwobblers on February 04, 2013, 02:53:09 AM
actually because he played 15 games and was ranked as poor he should be 1 point, but it is borderline and it doesn't change the position your team is ranked so you can keep the (3) :) he was a top 5 draft pick after all i hope for his sake and the "local sides" it clicks for him this year.
Even Ollie Wines is only worth 2...
Quote from: Jayman on February 04, 2013, 09:41:34 AM
Vipers Give: Dale Thomas + Johnathon Ceglar
Strikers Give: Hamish Mcintosh + Rhys Palmer
COLLI TO CONFIRM
Confirmed and
APPROVED
Quote from: whatlez on February 04, 2013, 01:08:32 PM
Quote from: Colliwobblers on February 04, 2013, 02:53:09 AM
actually because he played 15 games and was ranked as poor he should be 1 point, but it is borderline and it doesn't change the position your team is ranked so you can keep the (3) :) he was a top 5 draft pick after all i hope for his sake and the "local sides" it clicks for him this year.
Even Ollie Wines is only worth 2...
wines is outside top 5 picks but first round so = 2 :)
and i took the 2 points back off you for Sam Day - He is rated poor, (1) regardless of where he was drafted.... If I did that for him on your team I would have to do it for that kind of situation for every team, the likes of Grant (top 5 pick) on Nails team was also a top 5 drafted player but is rated poor so he gets (1) not (3).
better stay consistent.
not that the ratings by any means are going to decide the outcome of AXVs but they are what they are :)
Quote from: Colliwobblers on February 04, 2013, 06:50:19 PM
Quote from: whatlez on February 04, 2013, 01:08:32 PM
Quote from: Colliwobblers on February 04, 2013, 02:53:09 AM
actually because he played 15 games and was ranked as poor he should be 1 point, but it is borderline and it doesn't change the position your team is ranked so you can keep the (3) :) he was a top 5 draft pick after all i hope for his sake and the "local sides" it clicks for him this year.
Even Ollie Wines is only worth 2...
wines is outside top 5 picks but first round so = 2 :)
and i took the 2 points back off you for Sam Day - He is rated poor, (1) regardless of where he was drafted.... If I did that for him on your team I would have to do it for that kind of situation for every team, the likes of Grant (top 5 pick) on Nails team was also a top 5 drafted player but is rated poor so he gets (1) not (3).
better stay consistent.
not that the ratings by any means are going to decide the outcome of AXVs but they are what they are :)
I was saying Wines, because he will be a gun and only worth a two when someone like Plowman or O'Rouke will get a 3, but are nowhere near as fantasy relevant.
true i know, but if i picked who was fantasy relevant it would be by MY CHOOSING and therefore not as totally unbiased and concrete as it is going by the pure numbers,
it only rates this years 2 mini draft players as (1) also, because obviously they are completely irrelevant to the 2013 season, but looking at the quality of a side they are worth a lot more than (1), next year they will get upgraded to (3) as they are the same as top 5 draft picks being drafted ahead of the draft.
as I say the system is far from perfect and getting a 6 for redden and a 9 for a key defender is a HUGE distortion of scoring potential for this particular competition but it will have to do.
AS for wines I reckon you'll get at least (4) for him next season, maybe he'll do a toby greene and you'll get (6)
Yeah and I saw Luke McPharlin is a 9 and was like... wait a minute...
I guess the rating system doesn't matter too much anyway, the only important part about it is that the Folders have the highest score :D
Quote from: BB67th on February 04, 2013, 07:02:23 PM
I guess the rating system doesn't matter too much anyway, the only important part about it is that the Folders have the highest score :D
The ratings may not be perfectly suited to AXVS but they are are pretty accurate summary of the quality of each list (for this season).
Even with the inconsistencies I'd be happy with a higher number than a lower number still there is a lot of young future stars on the lists with lower numbers so future flags on the horizon.
Quote from: Colliwobblers on February 04, 2013, 07:08:52 PM
Quote from: BB67th on February 04, 2013, 07:02:23 PM
I guess the rating system doesn't matter too much anyway, the only important part about it is that the Folders have the highest score :D
The ratings may not be perfectly suited to AXVS but they are are pretty accurate summary of the quality of each list (for this season).
Even with the inconsistencies I'd be happy with a higher number than a lower number still there is a lot of young future stars on the lists with lower numbers so future flags on the horizon.
Ah thanks for the mention, talking about our flags already :o guess GWS gets mentiond on winning flags, wonder who will win first, GWS or Tibet?
Colliwobblers Gives: Jimmy Bartel + Kaiden Brand
Nails Gives: Troy Chaplin + Patrick Karnezis
Chaplin should be pretty good at the Tigers and is a lot younger than Bartel. However I felt it wasn't a decent enough compensation so I gave Karnezis for the worst bloke on Colli's list. He has a bright future. Both for the aging Bartel, I feel it is worth it as it'll give our team a huge boost.
Hale > Bench
Roughead > Ruck
Bartel > F3
Emg1 = R/F Emg2 = M Emg3 = D
Have all 4 spots covered w/ 3 emg...
Colli to confirm :)
:o ??? :o
Quote from: Nails on February 04, 2013, 08:47:33 PM
Colliwobblers Gives: Jimmy Bartel + Kaiden Brand
Nails Gives: Troy Chaplin + Patrick Karnezis
Chaplin should be pretty good at the Tigers and is a lot younger than Bartel. However I felt it wasn't a decent enough compensation so I gave Karnezis for the worst bloke on Colli's list. He has a bright future. Both for the aging Bartel, I feel it is worth it as it'll give our team a huge boost.
Hale > Bench
Roughead > Ruck
Bartel > F3
Emg1 = R/F Emg2 = M Emg3 = D
Have all 4 spots covered w/ 3 emg...
Colli to confirm :)
Confirmed
APPROVEDThis one is contentious however my #1 defender is dempsey and then there is howard and then there is spuds. i need to start 4.
my fwd line still boasts johnson and robinson.
My team will not compete really in 2013 so an ageing bartel who's DT numbers have gone down every season over the last 4 is only worth something this season, after Chaplin explodes this season he would be out of my reach,
karnezis is a first round draft pick only young and played last season neafl in the midfield, voss likes hi and he will get his chance, be a great future prospect for my team and cost me a spud rookie.
trade is fair although Nails stands to benefit most short term....
Quote from: tbagrocks on February 04, 2013, 09:21:54 PM
Quote from: JBs-Hawks on February 04, 2013, 08:51:01 PM
:o ??? :o
:o :o ???
i expected this, bartel is rated above average (6) and old Chaplin is rated above average (6) and young
karnezis is below average (2) and a prospect Brand is a rookie rated (1) and Nails will delist him same as I would have next season.
think the trade is pretty even especially considering my desperate need for a defender.
Still I expected a few :o ??? :o
Chaplin is rated above average because he is a KPP not because he is good at fantasy. Richmond wont want him kicking it out of defence lol.
Quote from: Colliwobblers on February 04, 2013, 09:31:49 PM
Quote from: tbagrocks on February 04, 2013, 09:21:54 PM
Quote from: JBs-Hawks on February 04, 2013, 08:51:01 PM
:o ??? :o
:o :o ???
i expected this, bartel is rated above average (6) and old Chaplin is rated above average (6) and young
karnezis is below average (2) and a prospect Brand is a rookie rated (1) and Nails will delist him same as I would have next season.
think the trade is pretty even especially considering my desperate need for a defender.
Still I expected a few :o ??? :o
I hope you are aware that Chaplin has had no preseason and is still recovering from the knee injury he suffered at Port.
Very doubtful for round 1 and might miss a few.
Who is this Ridley bloke?
Quote from: Nails on February 04, 2013, 09:49:32 PM
Who is this Ridley bloke?
I am the Senior Assistant to the Bangkok Crabs.
I'm out of list movements but these guys can be moved on for the right price. PM if you want any :)
Brent Stanton
Jack Ziebell
Dustin Fletcher
Jarrod Harbrow
Shaun Higgins
Hamish Hartlett
Chris Yarran
Quote from: Nails on February 04, 2013, 10:01:15 PM
Quote from: RidleyU on February 04, 2013, 09:51:55 PM
Quote from: Nails on February 04, 2013, 09:49:32 PM
Who is this Ridley bloke?
I am the Senior Assistant to the Bangkok Crabs.
Where did you come from?
Does it matter where I come from?
http://www.fanfooty.com.au/forum/index.php/topic,67213.0.html
As I have said, I am the Senior Assistant for the Crabs and have dealt with a few of the other coaches already.
Back to Chaplin...
http://www.news.com.au/sport/afl/jake-king-up-richmond-tigers-sleeve/story-fnelctok-1226565455677
A man is only as good as his roots.
Quote from: Nails on February 04, 2013, 10:32:48 PM
A man is only as good as his roots.
Nails don't be a spud
Ridley writes for some website. Not sure which one, but he probably knows a little more than you Nails... ::)
Quote from: whatlez on February 04, 2013, 10:48:31 PM
Ridley writes for some website. Not sure which one, but he probably knows a little more than you Nails... ::)
Anyone can write an article, doesn't mean you know anything.
Quote from: Nails on February 04, 2013, 10:50:08 PM
Quote from: whatlez on February 04, 2013, 10:48:31 PM
Ridley writes for some website. Not sure which one, but he probably knows a little more than you Nails... ::)
Anyone can write an article, doesn't mean you know anything.
Anyone can join a forum and play a fantasy 15's game and not have to explaine where they came from ;)
Quote from: Nails on February 04, 2013, 10:50:08 PM
Quote from: whatlez on February 04, 2013, 10:48:31 PM
Ridley writes for some website. Not sure which one, but he probably knows a little more than you Nails... ::)
Anyone can write an article, doesn't mean you know anything.
Excellent. Can you post a link to your articles Nails?
Just a bit odd, heaps of guys wanting to get involved in AXV, this guy signs up and is senior assistant within two weeks. Posts terrible articles about Todd Goldstein. Shouldn't be assistant coach with such anti-Goldstein articles :o
Quote from: RidleyU on February 04, 2013, 10:57:19 PM
Quote from: Nails on February 04, 2013, 10:50:08 PM
Quote from: whatlez on February 04, 2013, 10:48:31 PM
Ridley writes for some website. Not sure which one, but he probably knows a little more than you Nails... ::)
Anyone can write an article, doesn't mean you know anything.
Excellent. Can you post a link to your articles Nails?
People write gossip columns on celebrities. Writing an article is as much of an indication of knowledge as taking a poo is a sign you need to vomit.
Quote from: RidleyU on February 04, 2013, 10:31:44 PM
Quote from: Nails on February 04, 2013, 10:01:15 PM
Quote from: RidleyU on February 04, 2013, 09:51:55 PM
Quote from: Nails on February 04, 2013, 09:49:32 PM
Who is this Ridley bloke?
I am the Senior Assistant to the Bangkok Crabs.
Where did you come from?
Does it matter where I come from?
http://www.fanfooty.com.au/forum/index.php/topic,67213.0.html
As I have said, I am the Senior Assistant for the Crabs and have dealt with a few of the other coaches already.
Back to Chaplin...
http://www.news.com.au/sport/afl/jake-king-up-richmond-tigers-sleeve/story-fnelctok-1226565455677
Nice RidleyU, I am hoping he come good fast for my SC team he is a lock for SC for me this season hewill explode, here is hoping he comes good sooner rather than later.
a nice upgrade target if not.
While I care deeply about my AXVs team I have not drafted it likt the top 4 or 5 teams here for immediate success but rather for long term extended success, maybe not as long term as some but certainly there is no illusion from me that mt success here is not to be immediate...
hence losing bartel for a much younger Chaplin AND Karnezis makes sense to me , and it isn't unfair or ridiculous enought to Nails that he gets an unfair advantage over other teams in the comp so the trade goes through.
thanks for the link, I'll be watching chaplin but maybe not starting him now (SC)
and good to have you on the thread and in the comp (AXVS) that is :)
I don't like goldstein either but his 2011 season is hard to argue his ability on :)
Everyone has opinions, and no one has to like each other or their opinions or their articles but we try to at least pretend to be civil her in AXVS....
don't we Nails ;)
Quote from: Nails on February 04, 2013, 10:32:48 PM
A man is only as good as his roots.
OK. Since you asked.
I have been playing DT for over a decade. Started when it was with The Age. I started on fan footy quite a few years ago. Then went to DTT. And now I am an admin for www.afldreamers.com as well as the facebook group that has over 300 members including Adamant and Koops.
I have had a top finish of 27th. 3 top 100 finishes over the years. Finshed top 64 in the eliminator in 2011. Had a overall high ranking of 16th in 2012. Weekly high of 14th.
What about yourself?
Quote from: Colliwobblers on February 04, 2013, 11:01:55 PM
Quote from: RidleyU on February 04, 2013, 10:31:44 PM
Quote from: Nails on February 04, 2013, 10:01:15 PM
Quote from: RidleyU on February 04, 2013, 09:51:55 PM
Quote from: Nails on February 04, 2013, 09:49:32 PM
Who is this Ridley bloke?
I am the Senior Assistant to the Bangkok Crabs.
Where did you come from?
Does it matter where I come from?
http://www.fanfooty.com.au/forum/index.php/topic,67213.0.html
As I have said, I am the Senior Assistant for the Crabs and have dealt with a few of the other coaches already.
Back to Chaplin...
http://www.news.com.au/sport/afl/jake-king-up-richmond-tigers-sleeve/story-fnelctok-1226565455677
Nice RidleyU, I am hoping he come good fast for my SC team he is a lock for SC for me this season hewill explode, here is hoping he comes good sooner rather than later.
a nice upgrade target if not.
While I care deeply about my AXVs team I have not drafted it likt the top 4 or 5 teams here for immediate success but rather for long term extended success, maybe not as long term as some but certainly there is no illusion from me that mt success here is not to be immediate...
hence losing bartel for a much younger Chaplin AND Karnezis makes sense to me , and it isn't unfair or ridiculous enought to Nails that he gets an unfair advantage over other teams in the comp so the trade goes through.
thanks for the link, I'll be watching chaplin but maybe not starting him now (SC)
and good to have you on the thread and in the comp (AXVS) that is :)
I don't like goldstein either but his 2011 season is hard to argue his ability on :)
Everyone has opinions, and no one has to like each other or their opinions or their articles but we try to at least pretend to be civil her in AXVS....
don't we Nails ;)
I don't mind the trade to be honest just wanted to make sure you realised he might not be a round 1 proposition ;-)
Was no hostility until tbag and lez came in. Was just asking where he came from...
Seeing as it's odd for a bloke to be "senior assistant" within 2 weeks of joining FF when there's heaps on the outer who are keen.
You say Goldy = never again, however with HMAC gone = great for goldy. You also wrote off a 24yo ruck who is obviously still developing and not even near his prime. Putting a ruckman into a "never ever" list who is
A) Still Developing
B) Had a big opposition player for TOG traded away
C) Has proven premium scoring ability in seasons past
Reeks of anything but knowledge.
Quote from: RidleyU on February 04, 2013, 11:03:06 PM
Quote from: Nails on February 04, 2013, 10:32:48 PM
A man is only as good as his roots.
OK. Since you asked.
I have been playing DT for over a decade. Started when it was with The Age. I started on fan footy quite a few years ago. Then went to DTT. And now I am an admin for www.afldreamers.com as well as the facebook group that has over 300 members including Adamant and Koops.
I have had a top finish of 27th. 3 top 100 finishes over the years. Finshed top 64 in the eliminator in 2011. Had a overall high ranking of 16th in 2012. Weekly high of 14th.
What about yourself?
Finished 2nd overall in 2008.
Quote from: Nails on February 04, 2013, 11:10:02 PM
Quote from: RidleyU on February 04, 2013, 11:03:06 PM
Quote from: Nails on February 04, 2013, 10:32:48 PM
A man is only as good as his roots.
OK. Since you asked.
I have been playing DT for over a decade. Started when it was with The Age. I started on fan footy quite a few years ago. Then went to DTT. And now I am an admin for www.afldreamers.com as well as the facebook group that has over 300 members including Adamant and Koops.
I have had a top finish of 27th. 3 top 100 finishes over the years. Finshed top 64 in the eliminator in 2011. Had a overall high ranking of 16th in 2012. Weekly high of 14th.
What about yourself?
Finished 2nd overall in 2008.
Lol really :o :o
Quote from: Nails on February 04, 2013, 11:06:28 PM
Was no hostility until tbag and lez came in. Was just asking where he came from...
Seeing as it's odd for a bloke to be "senior assistant" within 2 weeks of joining FF when there's heaps on the outer who are keen.
You say Goldy = never again, however with HMAC gone = great for goldy. You also wrote off a 24yo ruck who is obviously still developing and not even near his prime. Putting a ruckman into a "never ever" list who is
A) Still Developing
B) Had a big opposition player for TOG traded away
C) Has proven premium scoring ability in seasons past
Reeks of anything but knowledge.
Firstly, you need to know that I am very well known outside of fanfooty and that this isnt the only forum for DT ;)
Now on to Goldy.
The Kangaroos have changed their game style. They now play a run and handball style out of the back line. This wasn't the case in 2011. HMac leaving does not mean a thing due to the fact they recruited Currie and elevated Daw off the rookie list. Plus the fact HMac was injured for the majority of 2012 anyways. Goldstein's top score was 140 against a Brisbane combo of Longer and Merrett. This inflates his average but it is true that you can only play the opposition every week. The new ruck rule is also a huge worry for Goldstein who scores 35% of his DT points by hit-outs. I can see wuite a few extra FA in 2013 for him with these new rules.
The articles I write are for entertainment. As I have always said, if people don't agree with them then fair enough.
flower off Nails.
Quote from: Nails on February 04, 2013, 11:10:02 PM
Finished 2nd overall in 2008.
Hmm, that's hard to believe when you're starting Brock McLean in your midfield this year. :o
RE: being well known blah blah blah
I used to be the only (non warnie/roy/vin) admin on DTTalk's chat...
Being well known doesn't make you good. I was simply asking where you hail from, no need to get your knickers in a knot. Found it odd someone would give you assistant coach so quickly.
At least this means I'll enjoy thrashing the crabs even more. We'll destroy the crabs.
Quote from: Adamant on February 04, 2013, 11:14:43 PM
Quote from: Nails on February 04, 2013, 11:10:02 PM
Finished 2nd overall in 2008.
Hmm, that's hard to believe when you're starting Brock McLean in your midfield this year. :o
117 average in his last 7 games. He's a gun.
Quote from: Nails on February 04, 2013, 11:10:02 PM
Quote from: RidleyU on February 04, 2013, 11:03:06 PM
Quote from: Nails on February 04, 2013, 10:32:48 PM
A man is only as good as his roots.
OK. Since you asked.
I have been playing DT for over a decade. Started when it was with The Age. I started on fan footy quite a few years ago. Then went to DTT. And now I am an admin for www.afldreamers.com as well as the facebook group that has over 300 members including Adamant and Koops.
I have had a top finish of 27th. 3 top 100 finishes over the years. Finshed top 64 in the eliminator in 2011. Had a overall high ranking of 16th in 2012. Weekly high of 14th.
What about yourself?
Finished 2nd overall in 2008.
You have made me laugh at least ;D
Quote from: Nails on February 04, 2013, 11:16:02 PM
117 average in his last 7 games. He's a gun.
What about the first 15 games?
draft thread, time to take the discussion to the discussion thread if in fact it is at all AXVS relevant?
passions run high as we approach the season, no hard feelings i am sure? i disagree vehemently with much that is written on this forum and the others i frequent and i have significant levels of hate for significant amounts of players (fantasy hate that is)
but lets not get personal or attack each other directly too much, there is a line and we are fast approaching it here i feel.....
Yeah Nails didn't come 2nd... ::) lol.
Quote from: Adamant on February 04, 2013, 11:17:37 PM
Quote from: Nails on February 04, 2013, 11:16:02 PM
117 average in his last 7 games. He's a gun.
What about the first 15 games?
Ever heard of a breakout? McLean had his. He's priced at a 100 average. Averaged like 103 without his sub games. And with the breakout should easily average higher. I also called his breakout last season in the thread that was mocking him. Everyone mocked me for it, he did go on to average over 100 after I said it however.
Quote from: Nails on February 04, 2013, 11:16:02 PM
RE: being well known blah blah blah
I used to be the only (non warnie/roy/vin) admin on DTTalk's chat...
Being well known doesn't make you good. I was simply asking where you hail from, no need to get your knickers in a knot. Found it odd someone would give you assistant coach so quickly.
At least this means I'll enjoy thrashing the crabs even more. We'll destroy the crabs.
Quote from: Adamant on February 04, 2013, 11:14:43 PM
Quote from: Nails on February 04, 2013, 11:10:02 PM
Finished 2nd overall in 2008.
Hmm, that's hard to believe when you're starting Brock McLean in your midfield this year. :o
117 average in his last 7 games. He's a gun.
I was chatting to Warnie last night. What is your name? I will tell him you said hi.
Quote from: RidleyU on February 04, 2013, 11:20:53 PM
Quote from: Nails on February 04, 2013, 11:16:02 PM
RE: being well known blah blah blah
I used to be the only (non warnie/roy/vin) admin on DTTalk's chat...
Being well known doesn't make you good. I was simply asking where you hail from, no need to get your knickers in a knot. Found it odd someone would give you assistant coach so quickly.
At least this means I'll enjoy thrashing the crabs even more. We'll destroy the crabs.
Quote from: Adamant on February 04, 2013, 11:14:43 PM
Quote from: Nails on February 04, 2013, 11:10:02 PM
Finished 2nd overall in 2008.
Hmm, that's hard to believe when you're starting Brock McLean in your midfield this year. :o
117 average in his last 7 games. He's a gun.
I was chatting to Warnie last night. What is your name? I will tell him you said hi.
Probably won't remember me, it was a while ago ;)
My name is on the left... unless you're too blind to read it.
Oh Adam, while you're here... give me one of your backmen that average 100+
Mmmmk?
We might be rivals, but we can trade this once ;)
Quote from: Nails on February 04, 2013, 11:24:01 PM
Quote from: RidleyU on February 04, 2013, 11:20:53 PM
Quote from: Nails on February 04, 2013, 11:16:02 PM
RE: being well known blah blah blah
I used to be the only (non warnie/roy/vin) admin on DTTalk's chat...
Being well known doesn't make you good. I was simply asking where you hail from, no need to get your knickers in a knot. Found it odd someone would give you assistant coach so quickly.
At least this means I'll enjoy thrashing the crabs even more. We'll destroy the crabs.
Quote from: Adamant on February 04, 2013, 11:14:43 PM
Quote from: Nails on February 04, 2013, 11:10:02 PM
Finished 2nd overall in 2008.
Hmm, that's hard to believe when you're starting Brock McLean in your midfield this year. :o
117 average in his last 7 games. He's a gun.
I was chatting to Warnie last night. What is your name? I will tell him you said hi.
Probably won't remember me, it was a while ago ;)
My name is on the left... unless you're too blind to read it.
He is actually part of the facebook group I run.
https://www.facebook.com/groups/AFLDreamers/
Feel free to join up and say g'day.
Sorry Colli - didn't wanted to detour this thread. Love this comp idea. Been fun so far wheeling and dealing.
Beware the Crabs in 2015 8)
We should still be pretty strong in 2015. It'll be interesting Crabs vs. Dongs
We'll still have Buddy, Grimes, Roughead and all our main premiums.
Quote from: Nails on February 04, 2013, 11:25:04 PM
Oh Adam, while you're here... give me one of your backmen that average 100+
Mmmmk?
We might be rivals, but we can trade this once ;)
My top 3 defenders are all in the top 6 highest averaging defenders of 2012. It would need a pretty good offer to move one of them on.
Also, the only real thing stopping me from winning the premiership is that I don't have a super premo captain option (like a Swan, Ablett, Pendles etc). Jelwood is a gun, but BB having Swanny x2 will probably cost me...
So I basically need a gun captain option to move one of them on. You are really lacking in that area too, so not sure how we could negotiate a trade...
My team still averages higher than yours... and that's before I made my most recent move.
We have now acquired Bartel if you didn't notice. That means my team improves by around 26ppg after it was already ahead of you to begin with.
Adam - how am I lacking? I have the 4th and 15th highest averages of 2012 in my team. That 4th average was on track for 3rd highest average until injury effected scores too (buddy)
l havent had a look at this thread for a couple of days........Damn Nails, a bit harsh on Rids there mate.
The fact that he was made a Senior Assistant after such a short time shouldnt be held against him in any way at all. lt was me who approached and appointed him, so if you have a gripe with anyone it should be me.
But even then it wouldnt be warranted, its my team so its my perogative to appoint anyone l want.
RidleyU has proven himself to be a very knowlegable and a valuable addition to the coaching panel of both the Bangkok Crabs and the Russian Roulettes......l only wish l'd appointed him sooner
He's a bloody good bloke, and will fit in well with all here......he loves his footy and is just as fanatical as the rest of us
Read it again nostra...
I don't/didn't have anything against him. I merely asked him where he came from out of pure interest, then lez/tbag/rids decided to take part in a joint operation of tying each others knickers in knots. I did not state rids was stupid or not knowledgeable. I did not state anything about him being stupid other than my belief RE: Goldstein saying it didn't reek of intelligence. I simply stated facts. Writing articles =/= intelligence.
I have nothing against him and much rather instead have more respect now if anything. Good to see the new fanfooty baby stands up for himself.
well said nost, and he and nails just clashed, it happens no big deal, no hard feelings i am sure. plenty of angst both ways not just nails, and i am certain there will be more throughout the season but here is generally mutual respect in this forum and that is all that matters.
mind you at one stage i was tempted to lock the thread for an hour or two and send everyone to the naughty corner.
i think from memory it was nails and whatlez i sent to the naughty corner last time ;D
Quote from: Nails on February 04, 2013, 11:43:15 PM
Read it again nostra...
I don't/didn't have anything against him. I merely asked him where he came from out of pure interest, then lez/tbag/rids decided to take part in a joint operation of tying each others knickers in knots. I did not state rids was stupid or not knowledgeable. I did not state anything about him being stupid other than my belief RE: Goldstein saying it didn't reek of intelligence. I simply stated facts. Writing articles =/= intelligence.
I have nothing against him and much rather instead have more respect now if anything. Good to see the new fanfooty baby stands up for himself.
I have Nails respect now 8)
All good fellas
*the naughty corner made me laugh Colli
Quote from: RidleyU on February 04, 2013, 11:45:58 PM
Quote from: Nails on February 04, 2013, 11:43:15 PM
Read it again nostra...
I don't/didn't have anything against him. I merely asked him where he came from out of pure interest, then lez/tbag/rids decided to take part in a joint operation of tying each others knickers in knots. I did not state rids was stupid or not knowledgeable. I did not state anything about him being stupid other than my belief RE: Goldstein saying it didn't reek of intelligence. I simply stated facts. Writing articles =/= intelligence.
I have nothing against him and much rather instead have more respect now if anything. Good to see the new fanfooty baby stands up for himself.
I have Nails respect now 8)
Seriously?
Something like that at least deserves 3x Sunglasses smilies.
Quote from: Nails on February 04, 2013, 11:29:27 PM
We should still be pretty strong in 2015. It'll be interesting Crabs vs. Dongs
We'll still have Buddy, Grimes, Roughead and all our main premiums.
rather unfortunate mix of names there........dongs and crabs are never a good mix :o
Quote from: Nails on February 04, 2013, 11:29:27 PM
We should still be pretty strong in 2015. It'll be interesting Crabs vs. Dongs
We'll still have Buddy, Grimes, Roughead and all our main premiums.
But buddy wont be fantasy relevant after lyon starts playing him in the back pocket :P
Quote from: JBs-Hawks on February 04, 2013, 11:59:44 PM
Quote from: Nails on February 04, 2013, 11:29:27 PM
We should still be pretty strong in 2015. It'll be interesting Crabs vs. Dongs
We'll still have Buddy, Grimes, Roughead and all our main premiums.
But buddy wont be fantasy relevant after lyon starts playing him in the back pocket :P
Lol.
Quote from: Nails on February 04, 2013, 11:35:17 PM
My team still averages higher than yours... and that's before I made my most recent move.
We have now acquired Bartel if you didn't notice. That means my team improves by around 26ppg after it was already ahead of you to begin with.
Adam - how am I lacking? I have the 4th and 15th highest averages of 2012 in my team. That 4th average was on track for 3rd highest average until injury effected scores too (buddy)
Late reply because my internet wasn't working, but meh.
We added added up our team's averages aaaaaages ago. Even back then, your team only averaged like 3 points ahead of us. Since then, we've gotten in guys like Waters, Lews, Wellingham, etc. You can't compare last years averages though anyway, I mean, Dusty, Fyfe, Mundy, Brennan, etc all had below par years. They'll all smash their 2012 averages.
I did forget that you had Buddy, but having the #1 pick in the draft is a huge bonus as your captain option. Don't forget, we had the second last pick of the first round. Buddy will struggle with contract talks on his mind. ;)
We did the averages after you already had Waters and that...
Quote from: Nails on February 05, 2013, 01:51:25 AM
We did the averages after you already had Waters and that...
Just had another look, and yeah, you're right. I did have Waters included in the averages, but definitely not Lewis and Wellingham. They average 111 and 120 respectively, so would've boosted our average a lot.
Someone trade with me.
Quote from: KoopKicka on February 05, 2013, 10:36:03 PM
Someone trade with me.
My Hibberd trade is still on the table. ;)
Hey Colli, l was just wondering if the Russian Roulettes were here instead of EXV what rating you would have given them?
Quote from: nostradamus on February 07, 2013, 01:03:10 AM
Hey Colli, l was just wondering if the Russian Roulettes were here instead of EXV what rating you would have given them?
i would have to go through the prospectus for every player on their list and rank the team, but please don't ask me to. TOO BUSY
the rankings are how champion data ranks the players not me, i assigned points for each bracket of champion data's rankings is all, but pretty much how the AXVs lists have been rated is how champion data ranks the AFL lists.
I was going to do average age and average draft pick for every team like they do to but -- forget it ! too much work
Quote from: Colliwobblers on February 07, 2013, 01:55:46 AM
Quote from: nostradamus on February 07, 2013, 01:03:10 AM
Hey Colli, l was just wondering if the Russian Roulettes were here instead of EXV what rating you would have given them?
i would have to go through the prospectus for every player on their list and rank the team, but please don't ask me to. TOO BUSY
the rankings are how champion data ranks the players not me, i assigned points for each bracket of champion data's rankings is all, but pretty much how the AXVs lists have been rated is how champion data ranks the AFL lists.
I was going to do average age and average draft pick for every team like they do to but -- forget it ! too much work
I was about to say. Don't ask him to do it for you lol.
Quote from: Colliwobblers on February 07, 2013, 01:55:46 AM
Quote from: nostradamus on February 07, 2013, 01:03:10 AM
Hey Colli, l was just wondering if the Russian Roulettes were here instead of EXV what rating you would have given them?
i would have to go through the prospectus for every player on their list and rank the team, but please don't ask me to. TOO BUSY
the rankings are how champion data ranks the players not me, i assigned points for each bracket of champion data's rankings is all, but pretty much how the AXVs lists have been rated is how champion data ranks the AFL lists.
I was going to do average age and average draft pick for every team like they do to but -- forget it ! too much work
sorry man, was a bit bored last night and got wondering.......might have to get off my lazy @rse and give it a go myself
* l reckon the Roulettes would crack the 200 eeeaaasssyyyy :P
Russian Roulettes...
Try Russian Spudettes.
Quote from: nostradamus on February 07, 2013, 10:16:09 AM
Quote from: Colliwobblers on February 07, 2013, 01:55:46 AM
Quote from: nostradamus on February 07, 2013, 01:03:10 AM
Hey Colli, l was just wondering if the Russian Roulettes were here instead of EXV what rating you would have given them?
i would have to go through the prospectus for every player on their list and rank the team, but please don't ask me to. TOO BUSY
the rankings are how champion data ranks the players not me, i assigned points for each bracket of champion data's rankings is all, but pretty much how the AXVs lists have been rated is how champion data ranks the AFL lists.
I was going to do average age and average draft pick for every team like they do to but -- forget it ! too much work
sorry man, was a bit bored last night and got wondering.......might have to get off my lazy @rse and give it a go myself
* l reckon the Roulettes would crack the 200 eeeaaasssyyyy :P
You have 6 less players though.
thats only 6 points lost though as they would be spuds
the eagles would surely take the record, i would have quite a few 9s.
Willing to trade Steele Sidebottom for a premium back under 30.
PM me :)
JROO8 (UAE Tigers) gives Brent Stanton + Dustin Fletcher + Caloan Mooney
For
Nails (Hong Kong Dongs) gives Clancee Pearce + Ryan Griffen + Sam Blease
JROO8 to confirm
This trade took over 50 PMs to work out. I feel perhaps we're paying over slightly, but what Stanton should bring to the team with BJ Goddard to detract as priceless.
I'm slightly in fear of Stanton getting tagged and spudding though, will be huge overs then.
Wish I could add in a side deal like, doesn't go through if Essendon are eliminated from 2013 lol.
Quote from: Nails on February 08, 2013, 12:52:24 AM
JROO8 (UAE Tigers) gives Brent Stanton + Dustin Fletcher + Caloan Mooney
For
Nails (Hong Kong Dongs) gives Clancee Pearce + Ryan Griffen + Sam Blease
JROO8 to confirm
This trade took over 50 PMs to work out. I feel perhaps we're paying over slightly, but what Stanton should bring to the team with BJ Goddard to detract as priceless.
I'm slightly in fear of Stanton getting tagged and spudding though, will be huge overs then.
Wish I could add in a side deal like, doesn't go through if Essendon are eliminated from 2013 lol.
Confirmed
And lol nah it's the risk you take if Stanton gets banned, too bad lol :p
JROO wins there I think, but Stanton looks so much better in the midfield than Griffen.
If you want to make a grand final win as likely as possible, sometimes you have to pay a bit overs and give up future potential.
Clancee could be a Dane Swan 2.0, kid is a jet. But he's not guaranteed to be a 2013 jet.
There's a chance he could out average Stanton in 2013 if Stants cops the huge tags, but shouldn't with BJ there lol
Quote from: Nails on February 08, 2013, 01:15:21 AM
If you want to make a grand final win as likely as possible, sometimes you have to pay a bit overs and give up future potential.
Clancee could be a Dane Swan 2.0, kid is a jet. But he's not guaranteed to be a 2013 jet.
There's a chance he could out average Stanton in 2013 if Stants cops the huge tags, but shouldn't with BJ there lol
I just hope you get an injury to one of your mids now, won't have Clancee as depth anymore. :D
We still have Howlett 117 unsubbed and Clinton Young 108 (should improve at Pies)
Quote from: Nails on February 08, 2013, 01:22:40 AM
We still have Howlett 117 unsubbed and Clinton Young 108 (should improve at Pies)
Great cover, but I think you're underrating us with Moloney, Rischitelli, and K.Mitchell.
Moloney is equal to young, if not better. Your comment last night of Moloney not being able to pass 95 was a joke. 110+ for sure.
I really rate Howlett though, he is a gun. Rischitelli had a shocker last year (he didn't have a pre-season), but if he gets back to 2010/11 form, he'll be 120+.
Mitchell will also be a great scorer when he plays. He is still on the rookie list, but Gray/Hartlett etc will get injured again, so he'll come in and gun it.
And yes Clancee loss (if colli approves) hurts our mid depth...
But that's part of the Bartel luxury.
Hale is a sufficient ruck @ 101 average.
Therefore if Howlett and Young are both unavailable for whatever reason
Bartel > Mids as cover
Hale > Ruck
Roughead > Fwds
And we don't lose that many points that way either :)
:o I say again :o
Nails you're hammering close your window faster than Dean Robinson can say "I didn't do it"
Quote from: tbagrocks on February 08, 2013, 01:51:18 AM
:o I say again :o
Nails you're hammering close your window faster than Dean Robinson can say "I didn't do it"
I have no idea what you're on about.
Wow I have to say its pretty one sided. But meh, Jroo deserves massive one sided trades.
Quote from: JROO8 on February 08, 2013, 12:57:14 AM
Quote from: Nails on February 08, 2013, 12:52:24 AM
JROO8 (UAE Tigers) gives Brent Stanton + Dustin Fletcher + Caloan Mooney
For
Nails (Hong Kong Dongs) gives Clancee Pearce + Ryan Griffen + Sam Blease
JROO8 to confirm
This trade took over 50 PMs to work out. I feel perhaps we're paying over slightly, but what Stanton should bring to the team with BJ Goddard to detract as priceless.
I'm slightly in fear of Stanton getting tagged and spudding though, will be huge overs then.
Wish I could add in a side deal like, doesn't go through if Essendon are eliminated from 2013 lol.
Confirmed
And lol nah it's the risk you take if Stanton gets banned, too bad lol :p
APPROVEDit's not massively uneven or unfair.
like Nails won his trade with me in a big way because i needed that defender, team needs have to be considered i think blease is a loss fletcher is a year prospect but nails replaces chaplin with this trade and gains a massive ceiling with stanton where jroo gets the young gun his team desires for its future success in blease and to a lesser extent pearce. i don't mind the trade, it is as expected JROO trading for the future and Nails trading for now.
one thing is for sure Stanton is captain material one week and bench material the next, we will see how well Nails predicts his scoring throughout the season :)
Only time I see Stants as captain is when Franklin is out injured :-x
Clancee Pearce is a greater prospect than Blease by a mile Colli.
He averaged 117 (unsubbed) as a 21yo and is Ross Lyon's pet. He'll be Dane Swan-esque. Kid is an absolute champion. 126 average in his last 7 games.
Yeah, definitely agree with Nails there.
Blease will never be a great fantasy scorer IMO. More of an impact player.
Clancee is a million times better.
Quote from: Nails on February 08, 2013, 02:11:23 AM
Only time I see Stants as captain is when Franklin is out injured :-x
Clancee Pearce is a greater prospect than Blease by a mile Colli.
He averaged 117 (unsubbed) as a 21yo and is Ross Lyon's pet. He'll be Dane Swan-esque. Kid is an absolute champion. 126 average in his last 7 games.
i disagree he is a fremantle hack and to compare him to Swan is ridiculous.
Blease is a kid, ofcourse he is an "impact player" no consistancy yet but he will get better and better clancee wont, to compare him to luke ball would flatter him, to compare him to Dane Swan is absolute and total sacrilidge and you should have your mouth washed out with soap for doing so ;D
Yeh because Ryan Griffin's just a spud ::)
Quote from: whatlez on February 08, 2013, 01:57:19 AM
Wow I have to say its pretty one sided. But meh, Jroo deserves massive one sided trades.
Haha 8)
TOGA (Mongolian Lambs) gives: Travis Varcoe
TOR01DOC (Taiwan Dolphins) gives: Luke Hodge
Good trade for both teams, doc needs fwds so he gets one in Varcoe, we get a bit of a risk in return but when he is fit we'll use Hodge as a utility or mid cover.
Tor01doc to confirm
Very difficult to offload the object of my mancrush, but Taiwan needs a forward so YES.
At least I can still write fan mail to Hodgey in true life. :-*
Hey cw I just remembered, what if Essendon get banned lets say. Nails loses Stanton and Fletcher. Because of that, I think we should delay this trade. Thoughts?
Quote from: whatlez on February 08, 2013, 11:40:20 AM
Hey cw I just remembered, what if Essendon get banned lets say. Nails loses Stanton and Fletcher. Because of that, I think we should delay this trade. Thoughts?
Yeah +1 what happens with the whole Essendon deal? Just bad luck and deal with it? ???
It's essentially caloan mooney for 3 decent scorers lol.
It needs to be on the maybe pile!
Quote from: Toga on February 08, 2013, 11:41:26 AM
Quote from: whatlez on February 08, 2013, 11:40:20 AM
Hey cw I just remembered, what if Essendon get banned lets say. Nails loses Stanton and Fletcher. Because of that, I think we should delay this trade. Thoughts?
Yeah +1 what happens with the whole Essendon deal? Just bad luck and deal with it? ???
I say bad luck and deal with it. They both agreed to do the trade now (while the whole essendon drug thing was going on), so Nails will have to cop the consequences IMO.
Well I think they may get suspended in doing so Nails won't win the premiership haha. Adam you just say that because Nails is your real close contendar
In saying that, its bad for the comp that if Nails wins the prem
Well, we try and make this as close to the real AFL, real AFL the coach would wait to know if the players were suspended, so maybe there should be a holding clause ;)
I only did it now 'cause there's only so many days in the trade period and I have to get it done within the trade period. Plus apparently adamant would trying to trade for them too, so he would've liked the hold ;)
Wellingham and Mundy for Stants :o
They won't get suspended.
Someone trade with me who doesnt treat me like an idiot would be nice.
Quote from: KoopKicka on February 08, 2013, 02:29:45 PM
Someone trade with me who doesnt treat me like an idiot would be nice.
You didn't get back to me :o
and I didn't treat you like an idiot :o
Quote from: Nails on February 08, 2013, 02:32:20 PM
Quote from: KoopKicka on February 08, 2013, 02:29:45 PM
Someone trade with me who doesnt treat me like an idiot would be nice.
You didn't get back to me :o
and I didn't treat you like an idiot :o
Writing your PM now
and not talking about you, but you dont have anyone I want. not your fault.
I'm about to run out of internet... not installed at our new house... I think i am
Phasir can make trades.
Hmm who is treat Coop like an idiot ???
Quote from: tor01doc on February 08, 2013, 02:27:53 PM
They won't get suspended.
+ 1 I think that Essendon may be ok.
Remiers said what they were taking were borderline legal.
Quote from: Nails on February 08, 2013, 12:50:00 PM
Well, we try and make this as close to the real AFL, real AFL the coach would wait to know if the players were suspended, so maybe there should be a holding clause ;)
I only did it now 'cause there's only so many days in the trade period and I have to get it done within the trade period. Plus apparently adamant would trying to trade for them too, so he would've liked the hold ;)
Wellingham and Mundy for Stants :o
What's wrong with that? that was a good offer. Just because you don't rate Mundy. ::)
Quote from: JROO8 on February 08, 2013, 05:42:48 PM
Quote from: tor01doc on February 08, 2013, 02:27:53 PM
They won't get suspended.
+ 1 I think that Essendon may be ok.
Remiers said what they were taking were borderline legal.
And you listen to anything Reimers says? lol
Quote from: JBs-Hawks on February 08, 2013, 07:03:45 PM
Quote from: JROO8 on February 08, 2013, 05:42:48 PM
Quote from: tor01doc on February 08, 2013, 02:27:53 PM
They won't get suspended.
+ 1 I think that Essendon may be ok.
Remiers said what they were taking were borderline legal.
And you listen to anything Reimers says? lol
Lol I knew someone was going to say that ::)
Quote from: Adamant on February 08, 2013, 07:01:10 PM
Quote from: Nails on February 08, 2013, 12:50:00 PM
Well, we try and make this as close to the real AFL, real AFL the coach would wait to know if the players were suspended, so maybe there should be a holding clause ;)
I only did it now 'cause there's only so many days in the trade period and I have to get it done within the trade period. Plus apparently adamant would trying to trade for them too, so he would've liked the hold ;)
Wellingham and Mundy for Stants :o
What's wrong with that? that was a good offer. Just because you don't rate Mundy. ::)
I liked the deal Ad was hard deciding which one to choose :-X
Nails gave me 3 players for Stanton, while I only got two from you which probably got it over the line.
Quote from: Adamant on February 08, 2013, 07:01:10 PM
Quote from: Nails on February 08, 2013, 12:50:00 PM
Well, we try and make this as close to the real AFL, real AFL the coach would wait to know if the players were suspended, so maybe there should be a holding clause ;)
I only did it now 'cause there's only so many days in the trade period and I have to get it done within the trade period. Plus apparently adamant would trying to trade for them too, so he would've liked the hold ;)
Wellingham and Mundy for Stants :o
What's wrong with that? that was a good offer. Just because you don't rate Mundy. ::)
I rate Mundy.
I'm not even talking about Mundy there, I'm saying if you were the one who did the trade, you'd appreciate the holding the trade until we find out if Essendon is banned or not :o
Quote from: Nails on February 08, 2013, 07:16:57 PM
Quote from: Adamant on February 08, 2013, 07:01:10 PM
Quote from: Nails on February 08, 2013, 12:50:00 PM
Well, we try and make this as close to the real AFL, real AFL the coach would wait to know if the players were suspended, so maybe there should be a holding clause ;)
I only did it now 'cause there's only so many days in the trade period and I have to get it done within the trade period. Plus apparently adamant would trying to trade for them too, so he would've liked the hold ;)
Wellingham and Mundy for Stants :o
What's wrong with that? that was a good offer. Just because you don't rate Mundy. ::)
I rate Mundy.
I'm not even talking about Mundy there, I'm saying if you were the one who did the trade, you'd appreciate the holding the trade until we find out if Essendon is banned or not :o
Well, I don't think you've got anything to worry about tbh. Unlikely that they'll be suspended.
I just meant that if you both agreed to it and Colli confirmed the trade, it should be locked in. If I was the one with Stanton, then I'd probably be the same as you though lol.
And JRoo, I would've considered adding Moloney, but I told you that I didn't have enough list movements left. Only got 1. :(
Quote from: whatlez on February 08, 2013, 11:40:20 AM
Hey cw I just remembered, what if Essendon get banned lets say. Nails loses Stanton and Fletcher. Because of that, I think we should delay this trade. Thoughts?
Even if the bombers were suspended for the season which totally won't happen, officials may be sacked players may be fined but i think actions against players in regards to suspension will only occur for future incidents.
i say that because it is my understanding that this is WAY bigger and more widespread than just the bombers players.
REGARDLESS however of whatever happens, anyone else can be caught too from any other club and suspended, and if so I won't undo any trades involving them, it is the same in essence as a player traded getting injured next week in training and being out for the season, the trade won't be cancelled for that.
SO THIS TRADE and ALL TRADES APPROVED will STAND.
Quote from: Toga on February 08, 2013, 11:03:24 AM
TOGA (Mongolian Lambs) gives: Travis Varcoe
TOR01DOC (Taiwan Dolphins) gives: Luke Hodge
Good trade for both teams, doc needs fwds so he gets one in Varcoe, we get a bit of a risk in return but when he is fit we'll use Hodge as a utility or mid cover.
Tor01doc to confirm
APPROVEDVarcoe is injury prone (so far) , Hodge is near retirement - even trade long term benefit with varcoe short term with Hodge.
Varcoe as a back for 2014 :o
I have decided Nails will have been back long enough to trade after his holiday so given this I intend to close trade window #2 at the original date of Friday the 15th February at 6PM EDT.
Any objections to this can be sent to me via PM, however htis gives us another 6 days to trade so not sure what issues there could be.
Get on with it :)
PM sent to all coaches. Please advise your assistants.
flower, 6 days left. :o
Someone trade with me.
Yeah seeing there is only 6 days left if anyone wants to trade with me pm.
I can in trade
Ryan Griffen
Clancee Pearce
Sam Blease
Chris Yarran
Jarrod Harbrow
Hamish Hartlett
Cameron Pedersen
Jack Ziebell
Shaun Higgins
Chris Knights
The Crabs are looking to trade the veterans of our team ::)
Mzungu 26
O'Brien 26
Dawes 24
if you're interested in any of these guys send through a PM and we'll see what can be sorted 8)
Looking to buy a prem mid. Or even a young starting forward.
Got lots of Backline depth and talented youngsters
Brodie Smith
Jarryd Geary
Tom McDonald
Daniel Nicholson
Alex Rance
Ryan Harwood
Josh Bootsma
PM me if You like 2-3 of them.
Quote from: JROO8 on February 12, 2013, 10:47:29 AM
Hey Colli, I've decided to do the trade.
JROO8 gives Stephen Hill + Sam Blease
Colliwobblers give Issac Smith + Liam Jones
I get one list movement back by trading back in Smith, but lose it as I trade Hill.
Colli to confirm
Confirmed
APPROVED
Quote from: KoopKicka on February 12, 2013, 10:52:18 AM
Quote from: JROO8 on February 12, 2013, 10:48:14 AM
Another trade Colli.
JROO8 gives Cameron Pedersen + Liam Jones
KoopKicka gives Sean Dempster + Allen Christensen
I use 0 list movements as Jones and Pedersen are both being on-traded and I get a list movement back as I'm trading Dempster back in.
Koop to confirm
confirm, this is one movement as Dempster is being ontraded.
APPROVED
Wow nice acquisition in Christensen there mate! Think you got a good deal there
Two big trades for me.
In: Allen Christensen, Sean Dempster, Issac Smith
Out: Cam Pedersen, Sam Blease, Stephen Hill
I have one list movement back so if anyone's interested in ANY of my players message me, I could trade Matt Wright if anyone's interested
Big ins for Jroo. Which player did you bring who won't count as a movement?
Quote from: whatlez on February 12, 2013, 08:14:41 PM
Big ins for Jroo. Which player did you bring who won't count as a movement?
Yep 8) lol Dempster and Issac Smith are both traded BACK in, so I get two list movemtms back, but I used one to trade Stephen Hill so have one left
Now that I have a list movement back, I've decide to put a few players up for trade:
Matty Wright - Gun fwd, averaged 110+ and is yet to fully break out
Lee Spurr - anyone looking for a defender should go for Spurr. Averaged in the 90's unsubbed in his first AFL season and will only improve.
If you like anyone else, PM me
Fine. I will take Lee Spurr, Jroo
Btw Cw I have 2 list movements left because I ontraded Chris Mayne. Forgot to mention.
Stanton could maybe be traded for the right defender + mid.
Anyone in need of a midfielder PM me, I have the 105 averaging Luke Hodge up for grabs if you can give me an 85 ave fwd or defender.
Lambs (Toga) give: Ben Stratton
Elephants (whatlez) give: Craig Moller
Both teams gain one list movement from this trade, as I picked up Moller in the initial draft, while lez picked up Stratton in the initial draft.
Whatlez to confirm
Quote from: Toga on February 14, 2013, 11:35:58 AM
Lambs (Toga) give: Ben Stratton
Elephants (whatlez) give: Craig Moller
Both teams gain one list movement from this trade, as I picked up Moller in the initial draft, while lez picked up Stratton in the initial draft.
Whatlez to confirm
To be Confirmed tomorrow. Get a list movement back...
Quote from: whatlez on February 14, 2013, 11:37:56 AM
Quote from: Toga on February 14, 2013, 11:35:58 AM
Lambs (Toga) give: Ben Stratton
Elephants (whatlez) give: Craig Moller
Both teams gain one list movement from this trade, as I picked up Moller in the initial draft, while lez picked up Stratton in the initial draft.
Whatlez to confirm
Confirmed. Got a list movement back...
Booooooooo,
good daylight robbery there Toga.
Quote from: Holzman on February 14, 2013, 12:08:08 PM
Quote from: whatlez on February 14, 2013, 11:37:56 AM
Quote from: Toga on February 14, 2013, 11:35:58 AM
Lambs (Toga) give: Ben Stratton
Elephants (whatlez) give: Craig Moller
Both teams gain one list movement from this trade, as I picked up Moller in the initial draft, while lez picked up Stratton in the initial draft.
Whatlez to confirm
Confirmed. Got a list movement back...
Booooooooo,
good daylight robbery there Toga.
Yeah I did benefit massively from that trade, cheer cheer cheer for whatlez being a champion, definitely owe him massively there!
Note: Trade not confirmed yet
Quote from: whatlez on February 14, 2013, 05:54:43 PM
Note: Trade not confirmed yet
so the trade is not confirmed yet or it is?
and i have credited you a list movements back as per your post on the previous page Whatlez re the ontrade.
Quote from: Toga on February 14, 2013, 02:43:22 AM
Quote from: JROO8 on February 14, 2013, 02:41:20 AM
Hey Colli, Toga and I have agreed to a trade
JROO8 (Tigers) give Dennis Amrfield
Toga (Lambs) give Luke Hodge
I use one list movement, while Toga uses none.
Toga to confirm
Confirmed.
APPROVED
I have Moller ATM. I'll edit it if I Toga needs his list movement.
Quote from: Toga on February 14, 2013, 11:35:58 AM
Lambs (Toga) give: Ben Stratton
Elephants (whatlez) give: Craig Moller
Both teams gain one list movement from this trade, as I picked up Moller in the initial draft, while lez picked up Stratton in the initial draft.
Whatlez to confirm
so this trade is NOT CONFIRMED at this stage? if not when and IF it gets confirmed please quote it and repost confirmation or I will forget to go back through the thread and find it to approve it and process it.
thanks
Yep ok. We changed our mind for moment/I couldn't delete on phone...
Quote from: Adamant on February 14, 2013, 10:50:58 PM
Hey Colli. A trade between Noz and myself
Bangladesh Bears (Adamant) gives: David Mundy + Sharrod Wellingham
Turkey Gazelles (Noz) gives: Matthew Boyd + Ryan Lester
Noz has already agreed to it.
Quote from: Noz on February 14, 2013, 10:18:35 PM
Yeah I accept but can you post it?
Can you quote this post and confirm it in the thread please mate? :)
APPROVED
Nice even trade there guys
Loosing Boyd may hurt but gaining Mundy and Wellingham will strength my premiership chances. Was also quite sad to see Lester go but I gain better forward depth in Wellingham.
Also Luke Ball may still be available for the right price.
Quote from: Jayman on February 14, 2013, 11:00:23 PM
Nice even trade there guys
Better than before.
Daniel Kerr for Sharrod Wellingham :P ::)
I think it's in Noz' favour, but oh well...
Quote from: whatlez on February 14, 2013, 11:14:24 PM
I think it's in Noz' favour, but oh well...
Yeah proabably favours Noz, due to Boyd's age.
Quote from: Toga on February 14, 2013, 11:35:58 AM
Lambs (Toga) give: Ben Stratton
Elephants (whatlez) give: Craig Moller
Both teams gain one list movement from this trade, as I picked up Moller in the initial draft, while lez picked up Stratton in the initial draft.
Whatlez to confirm
I'll confirm this time.
Adamant said he wanted to do this trade so he can put Boomer as F4 for the season i think he forgot that Harvey misses the first 6 games.
Adamant also told me I can't buy Dustin Martin because Harvey can play all year... ::)
Realistically i think Ads just made that trade so he can be in front with the team value.
Thanks Colli. Very happy with this trade. The team now looks like this.
DEF: Beau Waters, Danny Stanley, Paul Duffield, Jared Brennan
MID: Matthew Boyd, Joel Selwood, Nathan Fyfe, Sam Mitchell
RUC: Ben McEvoy
FWD: Dustin Martin, Jordan Lewis, Nick Riewoldt, Brent Harvey
UTI: Shane Tuck, Daniel Cross
Lester/Staker/Callinan will cover Harvey for the first 6 weeks.
I know this trade looks like a win to Noz on paper, but I really needed a gun captain option to compete with Swan, Franklin, etc and Boydy fits the bill perfectly. Harvey will average the same as Wellingham IMO and West Coast have said they'll use him as a tagger, which could mean a drop in average. This will hurt me long term no doubt, but I think this has definitely increased my premiership chances for 2013. Depth looks a little shaky, but that is a super strong team.
Who the frog is Ryan Lester ???
Thanks lez. :)
Now that I have one list movement back, I can do this trade:
Lambs (Toga) give: J.Schulz + J.Polec + A.Boston
Eskimos (KoopKicka & Memph) give: B.Lake + N.Bock + T.Hunt
KOOPKICKA or MEMPHISTOPHELES TO CONFIRM
Costs me two list movements, but since I got one back from lez & am trading Taylor Hunt back into my team, net list movement is zero. Gives me two older defence premiums, very happy and just about completes my team.
When did West Coast say that?
Good pep talk haha. Staker will return after Harvey.
Someone give me a defender for Luke Hodge :P
Quote from: tbagrocks on February 14, 2013, 11:24:36 PM
Who the frog is Ryan Lester ???
Some spud that averages like 80 lol.
Lester isn't a spud.
Quote from: whatlez on February 14, 2013, 11:26:28 PM
When did West Coast say that?
Good pep talk haha. Staker will return after Harvey.
"WEST Coast club champion Scott Selwood could be given even more ball-winning freedom this season, with recruit Sharrod Wellingham shaping as a strong run-with option for the Eagles."
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2013-02-05/sharrod-can-free-up-scott
Also, Staker could still play round 1 if all goes well, but realistically round 2-3.
They stay Staker could realistically play reserves at rd 3. Then not sure from then on.
Quote from: Noz on February 14, 2013, 11:06:37 PM
Loosing Boyd may hurt but gaining Mundy and Wellingham will strength my premiership chances. Was also quite sad to see Lester go but I gain better forward depth in Wellingham.
Also Luke Ball may still be available for the right price.
Premiership chances? ;D
Quote from: Noz on February 14, 2013, 11:22:08 PM
Realistically i think Ads just made that trade so he can be in front with the team value.
Haha I wouldn't make a trade just to be on top with the team value. It means nothing as it was based on last years averages.
Noz ::) we would've given you a better deal for Boyd you mug >:(
Lester/Staker/Callinan cover for 6 weeks? You realise you have to make the finals to win the grand final Adam? ;D
Quote from: whatlez on February 14, 2013, 11:31:29 PM
They stay Staker could realistically play reserves at rd 3. Then not sure from then on.
Meh, who cares about Lester/Staker etc. All that matters is that I got Boydy - 147 average last year. 8)
Roud 1 team
Defence: Heath Shaw, Nathan Grima, Sam Fisher, Shaun Atley
Midfield: Jobe Watson, David Mundy, Brad Sewell, Adam Goodes
Rucks: Ivan Maric
Forwards: Dean Cox, Paul Chapman, Sharrod Wellingham, Leigh Adams
Bench: Ben Cunnington, Mitch Duncan
Emergencies: Jack Viney, Brandon Ellis, Luke Ball
Once Gray gets back to his full fitness and Krakouer, Ellis and Kerr get back to their best i will have the best depth in the league.
Quote from: Adamant on February 14, 2013, 11:34:09 PM
Quote from: whatlez on February 14, 2013, 11:31:29 PM
They stay Staker could realistically play reserves at rd 3. Then not sure from then on.
Meh, who cares about Lester/Staker etc. All that matters is that I got Boydy - 147 average last year. 8)
Nice, so your C is 3 ppg better than our VC.
Quote from: Noz on February 14, 2013, 11:35:17 PM
Roud 1 team
Defence: Heath Shaw, Nathan Grima, Sam Fisher, Shaun Atley
Midfield: Jobe Watson, David Mundy, Brad Sewell, Adam Goodes
Rucks: Ivan Maric
Forwards: Dean Cox, Paul Chapman, Sharrod Wellingham, Leigh Adams
Bench: Ben Cunnington, Mitch Duncan
Emergencies: Jack Viney, Brandon Ellis, Luke Ball
Once Gray gets back to his full fitness and Krakouer, Ellis and Kerr get back to their best i will have the best depth in the league.
Hahaha Boydy?
Quote from: Noz on February 14, 2013, 11:35:17 PM
Roud 1 team
Defence: Heath Shaw, Nathan Grima, Sam Fisher, Shaun Atley
Midfield: Jobe Watson, David Mundy, Brad Sewell, Adam Goodes
Rucks: Ivan Maric
Forwards: Dean Cox, Paul Chapman, Sharrod Wellingham, Leigh Adams
Bench: Ben Cunnington, Mitch Duncan
Emergencies: Jack Viney, Brandon Ellis, Luke Ball
Once Gray gets back to his full fitness and Krakouer, Ellis and Kerr get back to their best i will have the best depth in the league.
How is that best depth?
Your bench averages 99 and 110
Our bench is 123 and 117
And then we have our midfield emg of 117, ruck fwd emg of 101 and Defender emg ave 85-90
Our mid DEPTH is better than your on field bench.
Cunnington is in the best shape of his life and will explode next year.
Duncan will spend more and more time in the midfield and this will result in a high fantasy score.
Quote from: Nails on February 14, 2013, 11:33:25 PM
Noz ::) we would've given you a better deal for Boyd you mug >:(
Lester/Staker/Callinan cover for 6 weeks? You realise you have to make the finals to win the grand final Adam? ;D
Haha an absolute worst case scenario is that I have to play an OOP at F4. My fixture for the first 6 weeks is this.
Round 1 - Crabs at home.
Round 2 - Crocodiles away.
Round 3 - Strikers at home.
Round 4 - Folders away.
Round 5 - Tigers at home.
Round 6 - Elephants away.
At very worst, I'll have 4 wins after round 6. Boomer should be fit and raring to go come finals and should hopefully pump out a few big ones.
Quote from: Nails on February 14, 2013, 11:35:55 PM
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Quote from: whatlez on February 14, 2013, 11:31:29 PM
They stay Staker could realistically play reserves at rd 3. Then not sure from then on.
Meh, who cares about Lester/Staker etc. All that matters is that I got Boydy - 147 average last year. 8)
Nice, so your C is 3 ppg better than our VC.
You had first pick in the draft... ::)
Quote from: Adamant on February 14, 2013, 11:41:42 PM
Quote from: Nails on February 14, 2013, 11:35:55 PM
Quote from: Adamant on February 14, 2013, 11:34:09 PM
Quote from: whatlez on February 14, 2013, 11:31:29 PM
They stay Staker could realistically play reserves at rd 3. Then not sure from then on.
Meh, who cares about Lester/Staker etc. All that matters is that I got Boydy - 147 average last year. 8)
Nice, so your C is 3 ppg better than our VC.
You had first pick in the draft... ::)
I traded for our VC :o
Hey everyone! Have a look at mongolia's backs now!
Hanley, Hurn, Lake, Houli (Malceski, Bock)
Sorry to interrupt, quite proud of myself right about now :P
Hey hey take it over to the discussion thread, leave this for trades ;)
Quote from: Toga on February 14, 2013, 11:43:15 PM
Hey everyone! Have a look at mongolia's backs now!
Hanley, Hurn, Lake, Houli (Malceski, Bock)
Sorry to interrupt, quite proud of myself right about now :P
Very nice Toga, good improvement there.
You've got me covered on depth easily, but my onfield players are much stronger.
Quote from: tbagrocks on February 14, 2013, 11:44:34 PM
Hey hey take it over to the discussion thread, leave this for trades ;)
Please don't tell us what to do.
Quote from: Noz on February 14, 2013, 11:49:14 PM
Quote from: tbagrocks on February 14, 2013, 11:44:34 PM
Hey hey take it over to the discussion thread, leave this for trades ;)
Please don't tell us what to do.
Then don't post in the wrong thread ;)
What if someone posted a trade in the middle of all that, you expect CW to sift through it all?
Quote from: tbagrocks on February 14, 2013, 11:51:23 PM
Quote from: Noz on February 14, 2013, 11:49:14 PM
Quote from: tbagrocks on February 14, 2013, 11:44:34 PM
Hey hey take it over to the discussion thread, leave this for trades ;)
Please don't tell us what to do.
Then don't post in the wrong thread ;)
What if someone posted a trade in the middle of all that, you expect CW to sift through it all?
Look mate if your going to keep going of topic please take it over to the discussion thread. Think about CW here.
Quote from: tbagrocks on February 14, 2013, 11:51:23 PM
Quote from: Noz on February 14, 2013, 11:49:14 PM
Quote from: tbagrocks on February 14, 2013, 11:44:34 PM
Hey hey take it over to the discussion thread, leave this for trades ;)
Please don't tell us what to do.
Then don't post in the wrong thread ;)
What if someone posted a trade in the middle of all that, you expect CW to sift through it all?
I did post a trade in that lol ::)
Quote from: Toga on February 14, 2013, 11:25:08 PM
Thanks lez. :)
Now that I have one list movement back, I can do this trade:
Lambs (Toga) give: J.Schulz + J.Polec + A.Boston
Eskimos (KoopKicka & Memph) give: B.Lake + N.Bock + T.Hunt
KOOPKICKA or MEMPHISTOPHELES TO CONFIRM
Costs me two list movements, but since I got one back from lez & am trading Taylor Hunt back into my team, net list movement is zero. Gives me two older defence premiums, very happy and just about completes my team.
Tick, Tick, Tick .........
trade period is nearly up.......we're looking to trade Mzungu and O'brien as a package deal or individually
*if its in a package deal we're willing to take 1 very good young player and an absolute spud if necessary
PM me quick and we'll go from there
Quote from: nostradamus on February 15, 2013, 12:46:21 AM
Tick, Tick, Tick .........
trade period is nearly up.......we're looking to trade Mzungu and O'brien as a package deal or individually
*if its in a package deal we're willing to take 1 very good young player and an absolute spud if necessary
PM me quick and we'll go from there
I think take what you get lol
I've thrown Sam Col on the table. Anyone cept Tbag keen?
Quote from: whatlez on February 15, 2013, 12:59:05 AM
Quote from: nostradamus on February 15, 2013, 12:46:21 AM
Tick, Tick, Tick .........
trade period is nearly up.......we're looking to trade Mzungu and O'brien as a package deal or individually
*if its in a package deal we're willing to take 1 very good young player and an absolute spud if necessary
PM me quick and we'll go from there
I think take what you get lol
???
Quote from: Toga on February 14, 2013, 11:25:08 PM
Thanks lez. :)
Now that I have one list movement back, I can do this trade:
Lambs (Toga) give: J.Schulz + J.Polec + A.Boston
Eskimos (KoopKicka & Memph) give: B.Lake + N.Bock + T.Hunt
KOOPKICKA or MEMPHISTOPHELES TO CONFIRM
Costs me two list movements, but since I got one back from lez & am trading Taylor Hunt back into my team, net list movement is zero. Gives me two older defence premiums, very happy and just about completes my team.
Confirm.
Think this means we have used all our list movements. Hunt is being on traded so no this counts as two lm for us I think?
Also we did one other trade but I haven't seen it posted. Colli did you get details about a Masten+Blair for Motlop+Harper deal between us and JBs Hawks (Australian Ales).
If not that's the deal - JBs-Hawks to confirm.
And for all those others asking about our trade situation - its Valentine's Day eve and I'm otherwise occupied ;) so i'll get back to you tomorrow.
Quote from: Memphistopheles on February 15, 2013, 01:23:15 AM
Quote from: Toga on February 14, 2013, 11:25:08 PM
Thanks lez. :)
Now that I have one list movement back, I can do this trade:
Lambs (Toga) give: J.Schulz + J.Polec + A.Boston
Eskimos (KoopKicka & Memph) give: B.Lake + N.Bock + T.Hunt
KOOPKICKA or MEMPHISTOPHELES TO CONFIRM
Costs me two list movements, but since I got one back from lez & am trading Taylor Hunt back into my team, net list movement is zero. Gives me two older defence premiums, very happy and just about completes my team.
Confirm.
Think this means we have used all our list movements. Hunt is being on traded so no this counts as two lm for us I think?
Also we did one other trade but I haven't seen it posted. Colli did you get details about a Masten+Blair for Motlop+Harper deal between us and JBs Hawks (Australian Ales).
If not that's the deal - JBs-Hawks to confirm.
And for all those others asking about our trade situation - its Valentine's Day eve and I'm otherwise occupied ;) so i'll get back to you tomorrow.
Is that serious????? Masten and Blair for motor and Harper?!?!? Harper is worst DT scorer in the AFL and Motlop Is massively overrated. Masten hasn't broken out and averages 115 and Blair is worth more than Harper and Motlop together.
If you are selling them for dirt. I'll offer up a big pile?
Quote from: whatlez on February 15, 2013, 01:26:04 AM
Quote from: Memphistopheles on February 15, 2013, 01:23:15 AM
Quote from: Toga on February 14, 2013, 11:25:08 PM
Thanks lez. :)
Now that I have one list movement back, I can do this trade:
Lambs (Toga) give: J.Schulz + J.Polec + A.Boston
Eskimos (KoopKicka & Memph) give: B.Lake + N.Bock + T.Hunt
KOOPKICKA or MEMPHISTOPHELES TO CONFIRM
Costs me two list movements, but since I got one back from lez & am trading Taylor Hunt back into my team, net list movement is zero. Gives me two older defence premiums, very happy and just about completes my team.
Confirm.
Think this means we have used all our list movements. Hunt is being on traded so no this counts as two lm for us I think?
Also we did one other trade but I haven't seen it posted. Colli did you get details about a Masten+Blair for Motlop+Harper deal between us and JBs Hawks (Australian Ales).
If not that's the deal - JBs-Hawks to confirm.
And for all those others asking about our trade situation - its Valentine's Day eve and I'm otherwise occupied ;) so i'll get back to you tomorrow.
Is that serious????? Masten and Blair for motor and Harper?!?!? Harper is worst DT scorer in the AFL and Motlop Is massively overrated. Masten hasn't broken out and averages 115 and Blair is worth more than Harper and Motlop together.
Yeah, agree with whatto here. That is massively one-sided.
Yeah Blair is a deadset gun and Masten will be a star!
It's worse than Swallow for Mackie lol. (British)
If anyone is looking for a last minute trade and interested in Steele Sidebottom then make me your best offer.
Am looking for a gun mid to cover for the loss of Sidey plus a 90+ back under 28y.o
Quote from: whatlez on February 14, 2013, 11:16:53 PM
Quote from: Toga on February 14, 2013, 11:35:58 AM
Lambs (Toga) give: Ben Stratton
Elephants (whatlez) give: Craig Moller
Both teams gain one list movement from this trade, as I picked up Moller in the initial draft, while lez picked up Stratton in the initial draft.
Whatlez to confirm
I'll confirm this time.
APPROVED
Quote from: Jayman on February 15, 2013, 02:05:02 AM
If anyone is looking for a last minute trade and interested in Steele Sidebottom then make me your best offer.
Am looking for a gun mid to cover for the loss of Sidey plus a 90+ back under 28y.o
So basically someone equal to Sidebottom plus 26 year old defender lol ::)
Quote from: Memphistopheles on February 15, 2013, 01:23:15 AM
Quote from: Toga on February 14, 2013, 11:25:08 PM
Thanks lez. :)
Now that I have one list movement back, I can do this trade:
Lambs (Toga) give: J.Schulz + J.Polec + A.Boston
Eskimos (KoopKicka & Memph) give: B.Lake + N.Bock + T.Hunt
KOOPKICKA or MEMPHISTOPHELES TO CONFIRM
Costs me two list movements, but since I got one back from lez & am trading Taylor Hunt back into my team, net list movement is zero. Gives me two older defence premiums, very happy and just about completes my team.
Confirm.
Think this means we have used all our list movements. Hunt is being on traded so no this counts as two lm for us I think?
Also we did one other trade but I haven't seen it posted. Colli did you get details about a Masten+Blair for Motlop+Harper deal between us and JBs Hawks (Australian Ales).
If not that's the deal - JBs-Hawks to confirm.
And for all those others asking about our trade situation - its Valentine's Day eve and I'm otherwise occupied ;) so i'll get back to you tomorrow.
I pmed Coli the trade but yes confirmed.
Quote from: whatlez on February 15, 2013, 01:04:30 AM
I've thrown Sam Col on the table. Anyone cept Tbag keen?
Funny ;D what possition player do you want
Quote from: whatlez on February 15, 2013, 02:11:00 AM
Quote from: Jayman on February 15, 2013, 02:05:02 AM
If anyone is looking for a last minute trade and interested in Steele Sidebottom then make me your best offer.
Am looking for a gun mid to cover for the loss of Sidey plus a 90+ back under 28y.o
So basically someone equal to Sidebottom plus 26 year old defender lol ::)
when did I say equal? A gun mid can be someone less valuable than Sidey e.g. 125 avg. Then a back makes up the difference. Btw dont offer me anyone over 28
Quote from: Memphistopheles on February 15, 2013, 01:23:15 AM
Quote from: Toga on February 14, 2013, 11:25:08 PM
Thanks lez. :)
Now that I have one list movement back, I can do this trade:
Lambs (Toga) give: J.Schulz + J.Polec + A.Boston
Eskimos (KoopKicka & Memph) give: B.Lake + N.Bock + T.Hunt
KOOPKICKA or MEMPHISTOPHELES TO CONFIRM
Costs me two list movements, but since I got one back from lez & am trading Taylor Hunt back into my team, net list movement is zero. Gives me two older defence premiums, very happy and just about completes my team.
Confirm.
APPROVEDJust- this is a ridiculous looking trade, however it is not really at all, there are a few points I will make as to the approval of it.
BOCK = 30 yrs old - only averaged 80 in his full season with GCS in 2011 not ultra premium but premium.
LAKE = 31 yrs old - will be close to an ultra premium defender this season but has to stay fit.
T HUNT = young, could be good, but clearly he is a tagger (at this stage) and his fantasy value is relatively low due to this.
VS.
SCHULZ = 27 yrs old never be elite but he is a low level premium, could post a DT average of 80+ easily if port improves.
POLEC = pick 5 in 2010 national draft, future star to be sure.
BOSTON = he's a damn rookie :o wtf? you say.... well he is actualy a bit of a gun, the only Queenslander named in the 2012 u18 all Australian team, he is a GCS listed rook been playing for broadbeach and playing very well, no chance of any fantasy worth this season maybe not ever at GCS until they cullthier list at least, but he should be a gun player in the future, stats from the NEAFL are impressive and he was first in the new goal kicking test at the 2012 combine, why he didn't get drafted - he was a GCS zone prelisting, bit dissapointing for him he is a rookie, but think he is one to watch in the future, so not nearly as worthless as he may seem at first glance.
So TOGA gets a big win for 2012, but I think the trade won't take too long to start favouring the eskimo's maybe a season or two...
Yep I Agree Colli - I definitely win short term - Lake will become my D4, while Bock will be a floating emg. Taylor Hunt will be ok as mid backup for years to come, but as you said his tagging roles will affect scoring. BUT with Geelong's next-gen midfield coming through he could turn out a gun.
Imo the Eskimos get a pretty good deal as well - Schulz averaged 115 SportsBet last year in a poor side. With side's improvement, plus a better midfield and support around him, could easily go 120+. Polec will be a star, and, despite a lot of people not rating Boston (lez ;) ) I actually think he has good potential.
But as you said, I gain for this year, with Lake and Bock being premiums NOW but retiring in a couple of years, while eskimos gain more in the long term!
Quote from: Toga on February 15, 2013, 02:40:00 AM
Yep I Agree Colli - I definitely win short term - Lake will become my D4, while Bock will be a floating emg. Taylor Hunt will be ok as mid backup for years to come, but as you said his tagging roles will affect scoring. BUT with Geelong's next-gen midfield coming through he could turn out a gun.
Imo the Eskimos get a pretty good deal as well - Schulz averaged 115 SportsBet last year in a poor side. With side's improvement, plus a better midfield and support around him, could easily go 120+. Polec will be a star, and, despite a lot of people not rating Boston (lez ;) ) I actually think he has good potential.
But as you said, I gain for this year, with Lake and Bock being premiums NOW but retiring in a couple of years, while eskimos gain more in the long term!
I don't mind the trade at all, boston is better than he looks i think he makes people think it is very uneven but keep an eye out for that kid....
ON ANOTHER NOTE I WILL PROCESS AND UPDATE ALL TRADES TOMORROW NIGHT, UNTIL I SAY SO THE TRADE WINDOW CAN REMAIN OPEN, IF IT RUNS PAST THE START OF THE FIRST NAB CUP GAME I DON'T REALLY MIND -DON'T THINK IT WILL MATTER.
I was sorry to see Boston leave Tibet :'(
Can on trade
Ziebell
Knights
Higgins
Pearce
Griffen
Christensen
Yarran
Harbrow
Hartlett
Hodge
Message me if you're interested in any!
Quote from: Colliwobblers on February 15, 2013, 02:42:39 AM
Quote from: Toga on February 15, 2013, 02:40:00 AM
Yep I Agree Colli - I definitely win short term - Lake will become my D4, while Bock will be a floating emg. Taylor Hunt will be ok as mid backup for years to come, but as you said his tagging roles will affect scoring. BUT with Geelong's next-gen midfield coming through he could turn out a gun.
Imo the Eskimos get a pretty good deal as well - Schulz averaged 115 SportsBet last year in a poor side. With side's improvement, plus a better midfield and support around him, could easily go 120+. Polec will be a star, and, despite a lot of people not rating Boston (lez ;) ) I actually think he has good potential.
But as you said, I gain for this year, with Lake and Bock being premiums NOW but retiring in a couple of years, while eskimos gain more in the long term!
I don't mind the trade at all, boston is better than he looks i think he makes people think it is very uneven but keep an eye out for that kid....
ON ANOTHER NOTE I WILL PROCESS AND UPDATE ALL TRADES TOMORROW NIGHT, UNTIL I SAY SO THE TRADE WINDOW CAN REMAIN OPEN, IF IT RUNS PAST THE START OF THE FIRST NAB CUP GAME I DON'T REALLY MIND -DON'T THINK IT WILL MATTER.
GIVE JB TIME TO SORT THAT SMEDTS TRADE OUT ??? ALSO
Yea not sure where Smedts came from? The Eskimoes wanted young forwards so I gave them Harper and Motlop and they gave me Masten and Blair.
Quote from: JBs-Hawks on February 15, 2013, 02:13:08 AM
Quote from: Memphistopheles on February 15, 2013, 01:23:15 AM
Quote from: Toga on February 14, 2013, 11:25:08 PM
Thanks lez. :)
Now that I have one list movement back, I can do this trade:
Lambs (Toga) give: J.Schulz + J.Polec + A.Boston
Eskimos (KoopKicka & Memph) give: B.Lake + N.Bock + T.Hunt
KOOPKICKA or MEMPHISTOPHELES TO CONFIRM
Costs me two list movements, but since I got one back from lez & am trading Taylor Hunt back into my team, net list movement is zero. Gives me two older defence premiums, very happy and just about completes my team.
Confirm.
Think this means we have used all our list movements. Hunt is being on traded so no this counts as two lm for us I think?
Also we did one other trade but I haven't seen it posted. Colli did you get details about a Masten+Blair for Motlop+Harper deal between us and JBs Hawks (Australian Ales).
If not that's the deal - JBs-Hawks to confirm.
And for all those others asking about our trade situation - its Valentine's Day eve and I'm otherwise occupied ;) so i'll get back to you tomorrow.
I pmed Coli the trade but yes confirmed.
it could be argued that motlop and harper will one day be as good as blair and masten, but i seriously doubt it, and you are trading 2 established lower level premiums for 2 developing kids....
trade makes no sense masten and blair are both young also.
blair is a fwd so i do not see why he would trade out a young fwd when looking for young fwds?
Balir (22) avg 104.7
Masten (23) avg 113.05
vs
motlop (22) avg 81.57
harper (20) avg 70.18
I have to think more on this trade it is borderline ridiculous. and borderline of giving an unfair advantage to a team over other teams by gaining a huge advantage through a trade.
I have let some uneven ones pass so i don't want to block one now and be inconsistant but the numbers and ages above are pretty clear.
I will decide on this tonight however i would consider renegotiating the trade again if young fwds are what you want why ditch a young fwd just to get one in who averages 30ppg less ?
To be fair cw, I think this trade is more one sided than a trade I almost got put through in British...
Swallow for Mackie lol.
The reason for that trade is as follows.
Harper although he didn't score as highly last season I'm putting that down to the second year blues. He's now in his third season and imo is likely to break out.
I don't have time at the moment but I can quote you three news articles which say he's set to play a lot more midfield time this season and has been one to watch on the training track. He is also dangerous around goals which score you plenty of points in this game.
Motlop is also set to play off a half-back flank in a run and carry role with Geelong in addition to spending time in the forward line. Those run and carry defenders like Goddard/Scotland/Hanley etc are some of the best scorers. And with the zones these days Motlop's pace could well see him being the one to finish off a move with a goal.
Also both these players are slightly younger than those we are trading away (Blair/Masten).
I also see Masten's score dropping off this season with a fully fit Eagles team and the addition of Wellingham.
I also see Blair's out put dropping slightly due to the change in Collingwood's playing style. Instead of them going along the boundary they'll be going up the middle which will mean there won't be as many possessions for their midfielders and not as much action for the small forwards (good for Cloke/Lynch though).
In conclusion while I think Masten and Blair are ahead (probably by about a season) of Harper and Motlop I see them catching up and surpassing them in the next 1-2 years. In about 2-3 years is when we'll be challenging for the flag imo so they suit us well.
Me and KoopKicka were both happy with this trade.
For the record also we want two young forwards not just one and felt we could field Embley in the fourth midfield spot so was willing to give up Masten.
I'm also of the opinion that Polec will also break out this season and should be ready to fill that last mid spot (with Pendles, Ebert and Hanneberry) once Embley has retired.
Im sorry Meth, but when your becomes competetive there will be power houses like me or nost 8)
Also Harper is probably the worst fantasy I have ever seen and has zero potential. Also who will he kick out of the mids? Except Harvey? Cunnington? Wells? Adams will play more mids... Atley as well. bastinac? L. Anthony? Who did I forgot?
This Motlop flog is the softest player in the AFL, massive outside player, relies on Geelong winning. With Geelong declining rapidly I dont see a spud like him kicking many goals.
JB needs to give up more or I canot see why Swallow for Mackiw didn'T go through?!?!
Quote from: whatlez on February 15, 2013, 01:22:18 PM
Im sorry Meth, but when your becomes competetive there will be power houses like me or nost 8)
Also Harper is probably the worst fantasy I have ever seen and has zero potential. Also who will he kick out of the mids? Except Harvey? Cunnington? Wells? Adams will play more mids... Atley as well. bastinac? L. Anthony? Who did I forgot?
This Motlop flog is the softest player in the AFL, massive outside player, relies on Geelong winning. With Geelong declining rapidly I dont see a spud like him kicking many goals.
JB needs to give up more or I canot see why Swallow for Mackiw didn'T go through?!?!
You're entitled to your opinion and we're entitled to ours.
Harper will be a big improver this season. He looked decent in 2011, had a bit of a case of the second year blues in 2012 and now is in his third year - the one where most players break out.
Motlop's a similar case. Both have a lot of potential, we think more than Blair and Masten and are willing to lose a bit this year in order to gain in the future.
Also this is not British, different scoring system so don't compare their trades to ours.
When I compair The British, I was getting Swallow :(
Anyone want Michael Rischitelli or Brent Moloney? looking for forward depth in return. PM me your best offer.
That is a flowering ridiculous trade...
Harper and Motlop both average at best players
For two players who are pretty much the same age as them but are already stars
I see absolutely zero reasoning to it, I'd give you more for Masten tbh.
Pending Colli's approval, a massive trade has just been agreed to by the Bears and Dolphins. Watch this space. 8)
Who are the Dolphins? And why doesn't anyone post here?
Quote from: whatlez on February 15, 2013, 05:42:50 PM
Who are the Dolphins? And why doesn't anyone post here?
Tawian Dolphins, doc's team.
Does it involve Gaz?
I am the Dolphin - goo goo g'joob!
Quote from: JROO8 on February 15, 2013, 05:46:51 PM
Quote from: whatlez on February 15, 2013, 05:42:50 PM
Who are the Dolphins? And why doesn't anyone post here?
Tawian Dolphins, doc's team.
Does it involve Gaz?
Possibly. ;)
Shower stirrer!
Did I just trade Gaz for *# :o@%@^
Quote from: tor01doc on February 15, 2013, 05:53:23 PM
Shower stirrer!
Did I just trade Gaz for *# :o@%@^
Haha, yeah GAJ isn't involved, but another Sun is. ;)
Wanna do some last minute trades?
Willing to trade
Hamish Hartlett, Chris Yarran, Jarrod Harbrow, Clancee Pearce, Ryan Griffen
Quote from: Adamant on February 15, 2013, 05:38:45 PM
Quote from: tor01doc on February 15, 2013, 05:33:45 PM
I hereby confirm the 3 for 3 trade proposed by my new bestie, Adamant assuming I have enough movements and so should he.
To be honest I have lost count.
Bye bye Walker, Broughton and Shaw.
Hello Lewis, Brennan and Lester.
I confirm this trade. Here it is again:
Bangladesh Bears (Adamant) gives: Jordan Lewis + Jared Brennan + Ryan Lester
Taiwan Dolphins (tor01doc) gives: Andrew Walker + Greg Broughton + Mason Shaw
I just checked and myself and doc both have enough list movements. Please post this in the trade thread, Colli. 8)
APPROVED
There it is! good doing business with you yet again, Doc. 8)
The team is now set and looks like this.
DEF: Beau Waters, Danny Stanley, Paul Duffield, Greg Broughton
MID: Matthew Boyd, Joel Selwood, Nathan Fyfe, Sam Mitchell
RUC: Ben McEvoy
FWD: Dustin Martin, Nick Riewoldt, Andrew Walker, Brent Harvey
UTI: Shane Tuck, Daniel Cross
The beauty of Broughts is that he has DPP. I can play him up forward for the first 6 weeks (when Harvey is out), and Bob Murphy can fill in at D4. He will then switch back when Boomer returns.
Look at that backline. :o
Come at me premiership!
Quote from: Adamant on February 15, 2013, 06:21:12 PM
There it is! good doing business with you yet again, Doc. 8)
The team is now set and looks like this.
DEF: Beau Waters, Danny Stanley, Paul Duffield, Greg Broughton
MID: Matthew Boyd, Joel Selwood, Nathan Fyfe, Sam Mitchell
RUC: Ben McEvoy
FWD: Dustin Martin, Nick Riewoldt, Andrew Walker, Brent Harvey
UTI: Shane Tuck, Daniel Cross
The beauty of Broughts is that he has DPP. I can play him up forward for the first 6 weeks (when Harvey is out), and Bob Murphy can fill in at D4. He will then switch back when Boomer returns.
Look at that backline. :o
Come at me premiership!
Nice team Ad, the only problem is your fwd line and with Broughtn DPP it's not too bad. But your team looks better with Boyd.
You, Nails and BB67th are all good chances for the premiership I reckon.
Quote from: JBs-Hawks on February 15, 2013, 02:13:08 AM
Quote from: Memphistopheles on February 15, 2013, 01:23:15 AM
Quote from: Toga on February 14, 2013, 11:25:08 PM
Thanks lez. :)
Also we did one other trade but I haven't seen it posted. Colli did you get details about a
KoopKicka Gives Chris Masten + Jarryd Blair
JBsHawks Gives Stephen Motlop + Kieran Harper
If not that's the deal - JBs-Hawks to confirm.
And for all those others asking about our trade situation - its Valentine's Day eve and I'm otherwise occupied ;) so i'll get back to you tomorrow.
I pmed Coli the trade but yes confirmed.
APPROVED
I approve this with great reluctance, my reasons are as follows...
1. both parties are very happy with the trade and insist on wanting it.
2. the players being traded favour one side, however not by SO MAY points as to give the trade winning team an unfair advantage over other teams.
( this because masten and blair and certainly NOT premiums, they are clearly a level below premium especially masten as he is mid only)
Not to the rest of the teams I passed it reluctantly but in fairness to these two teams, the rules WERE NEVER that a trade had to be even, and to pass other uneven trades and not this one would be unfair.
the rules are RIDICULOUS UNEVEN, AND UNFAIR ADVANTAGE.
i think this falls short in both categories JUST !
LOLOLOL Adam, you traded out Lewis and destroyed your team Walker is shower
Walker averages around 106 once you take his sub game out
Lewis averaged 119
Therefore 13ppg loss from Lewis > Walker....
Broughton is a simple 104 ave defender... Considering Brennan had a poor year
Brennan = Broughton
Lewis 10x greater than Walker
Lester > Shaw
How does that help your premiership hopes? It doesn't at all.
Quote from: Colliwobblers on February 15, 2013, 06:29:21 PM
Quote from: JBs-Hawks on February 15, 2013, 02:13:08 AM
Quote from: Memphistopheles on February 15, 2013, 01:23:15 AM
Quote from: Toga on February 14, 2013, 11:25:08 PM
Thanks lez. :)
Also we did one other trade but I haven't seen it posted. Colli did you get details about a
KoopKicka Gives Chris Masten + Jarryd Blair
JBsHawks Gives Stephen Motlop + Kieran Harper
If not that's the deal - JBs-Hawks to confirm.
And for all those others asking about our trade situation - its Valentine's Day eve and I'm otherwise occupied ;) so i'll get back to you tomorrow.
I pmed Coli the trade but yes confirmed.
APPROVED
I approve this with great reluctance, my reasons are as follows...
1. both parties are very happy with the trade and insist on wanting it.
2. the players being traded favour one side, however not by SO MAY points as to give the trade winning team an unfair advantage over other teams.
( this because masten and blair and certainly NOT premiums, they are clearly a level below premium especially masten as he is mid only)
Not to the rest of the teams I passed it reluctantly but in fairness to these two teams, the rules WERE NEVER that a trade had to be even, and to pass other uneven trades and not this one would be unfair.
the rules are RIDICULOUS UNEVEN, AND UNFAIR ADVANTAGE.
i think this falls short in both categories JUST !
That's like a 60ppg advantage... That's like a 4% bonus to some teams. HUGELY unfair and ridiculous imo. I vote to veto/get this trade reviewd (we can do this can't we?)
It's 2 spuds at the same age as 2 guns. It's hugely unfair Colli.
Quote from: Nails on February 15, 2013, 06:31:33 PM
Quote from: Colliwobblers on February 15, 2013, 06:29:21 PM
Quote from: JBs-Hawks on February 15, 2013, 02:13:08 AM
Quote from: Memphistopheles on February 15, 2013, 01:23:15 AM
Quote from: Toga on February 14, 2013, 11:25:08 PM
Thanks lez. :)
Also we did one other trade but I haven't seen it posted. Colli did you get details about a
KoopKicka Gives Chris Masten + Jarryd Blair
JBsHawks Gives Stephen Motlop + Kieran Harper
If not that's the deal - JBs-Hawks to confirm.
And for all those others asking about our trade situation - its Valentine's Day eve and I'm otherwise occupied ;) so i'll get back to you tomorrow.
I pmed Coli the trade but yes confirmed.
APPROVED
I approve this with great reluctance, my reasons are as follows...
1. both parties are very happy with the trade and insist on wanting it.
2. the players being traded favour one side, however not by SO MAY points as to give the trade winning team an unfair advantage over other teams.
( this because masten and blair and certainly NOT premiums, they are clearly a level below premium especially masten as he is mid only)
Not to the rest of the teams I passed it reluctantly but in fairness to these two teams, the rules WERE NEVER that a trade had to be even, and to pass other uneven trades and not this one would be unfair.
the rules are RIDICULOUS UNEVEN, AND UNFAIR ADVANTAGE.
i think this falls short in both categories JUST !
That's like a 60ppg advantage... That's like a 4% bonus to some teams. HUGELY unfair and ridiculous imo. I vote to veto/get this trade reviewd (we can do this can't we?)
It's 2 spuds at the same age as 2 guns. It's hugely unfair Colli.
Yeah JB wins massively there. Nothing we can do really now that Colli has approved it.
Quote from: Nails on February 15, 2013, 06:29:39 PM
LOLOLOL Adam, you traded out Lewis and destroyed your team Walker is shower
Walker averages around 106 once you take his sub game out
Lewis averaged 119
Therefore 13ppg loss from Lewis > Walker....
Broughton is a simple 104 ave defender... Considering Brennan had a poor year
Brennan = Broughton
Lewis 10x greater than Walker
Lester > Shaw
How does that help your premiership hopes? It doesn't at all.
Walker is far from shower, he'll go 110-115+ under Mick.
Broughton had a shower year as well, he'll be around the 115 mark too.
This also gives me better flexibilty and depth with Broughton's DPP.
I don't rate Lester and couldn't care less about trading him for Shaw. Much of a muchness IMO.
Seriously, I really can't be bothered arguing anymore. Have fun with your pathetic backline and midfield.
Quote from: JROO8 on February 15, 2013, 06:33:45 PM
Quote from: Nails on February 15, 2013, 06:31:33 PM
Quote from: Colliwobblers on February 15, 2013, 06:29:21 PM
Quote from: JBs-Hawks on February 15, 2013, 02:13:08 AM
Quote from: Memphistopheles on February 15, 2013, 01:23:15 AM
Quote from: Toga on February 14, 2013, 11:25:08 PM
Thanks lez. :)
Also we did one other trade but I haven't seen it posted. Colli did you get details about a
KoopKicka Gives Chris Masten + Jarryd Blair
JBsHawks Gives Stephen Motlop + Kieran Harper
If not that's the deal - JBs-Hawks to confirm.
And for all those others asking about our trade situation - its Valentine's Day eve and I'm otherwise occupied ;) so i'll get back to you tomorrow.
I pmed Coli the trade but yes confirmed.
APPROVED
I approve this with great reluctance, my reasons are as follows...
1. both parties are very happy with the trade and insist on wanting it.
2. the players being traded favour one side, however not by SO MAY points as to give the trade winning team an unfair advantage over other teams.
( this because masten and blair and certainly NOT premiums, they are clearly a level below premium especially masten as he is mid only)
Not to the rest of the teams I passed it reluctantly but in fairness to these two teams, the rules WERE NEVER that a trade had to be even, and to pass other uneven trades and not this one would be unfair.
the rules are RIDICULOUS UNEVEN, AND UNFAIR ADVANTAGE.
i think this falls short in both categories JUST !
That's like a 60ppg advantage... That's like a 4% bonus to some teams. HUGELY unfair and ridiculous imo. I vote to veto/get this trade reviewd (we can do this can't we?)
It's 2 spuds at the same age as 2 guns. It's hugely unfair Colli.
Yeah JB wins massively there. Nothing we can do really now that Colli has approved it.
I think that this trade is ridiculously uneven. I mean you are trading two young guns for two players who might have some potential who are each a year younger. Really I don't know what the unfair trade rule is in for if trades like this still get passed....
Quote from: BB67th on February 15, 2013, 06:37:57 PM
Quote from: JROO8 on February 15, 2013, 06:33:45 PM
Quote from: Nails on February 15, 2013, 06:31:33 PM
Quote from: Colliwobblers on February 15, 2013, 06:29:21 PM
Quote from: JBs-Hawks on February 15, 2013, 02:13:08 AM
Quote from: Memphistopheles on February 15, 2013, 01:23:15 AM
Quote from: Toga on February 14, 2013, 11:25:08 PM
Thanks lez. :)
Also we did one other trade but I haven't seen it posted. Colli did you get details about a
KoopKicka Gives Chris Masten + Jarryd Blair
JBsHawks Gives Stephen Motlop + Kieran Harper
If not that's the deal - JBs-Hawks to confirm.
And for all those others asking about our trade situation - its Valentine's Day eve and I'm otherwise occupied ;) so i'll get back to you tomorrow.
I pmed Coli the trade but yes confirmed.
APPROVED
I approve this with great reluctance, my reasons are as follows...
1. both parties are very happy with the trade and insist on wanting it.
2. the players being traded favour one side, however not by SO MAY points as to give the trade winning team an unfair advantage over other teams.
( this because masten and blair and certainly NOT premiums, they are clearly a level below premium especially masten as he is mid only)
Not to the rest of the teams I passed it reluctantly but in fairness to these two teams, the rules WERE NEVER that a trade had to be even, and to pass other uneven trades and not this one would be unfair.
the rules are RIDICULOUS UNEVEN, AND UNFAIR ADVANTAGE.
i think this falls short in both categories JUST !
That's like a 60ppg advantage... That's like a 4% bonus to some teams. HUGELY unfair and ridiculous imo. I vote to veto/get this trade reviewd (we can do this can't we?)
It's 2 spuds at the same age as 2 guns. It's hugely unfair Colli.
Yeah JB wins massively there. Nothing we can do really now that Colli has approved it.
I think that this trade is ridiculously uneven. I mean you are trading two young guns for two players who might have some potential who are each a year younger. Really I don't know what the unfair trade rule is in for if trades like this still get passed....
TWO young guns who have shown they are guns for two players pretty much who haven't shown much of anything at pretty much the same age. Ridiculous. It's like trading Rockliff and Redden for 2 blokes drafted 2 seasons ago who MIGHT be good
Any player in the AFL MIGHT be good. But they've haven't shown it and there's no reason for such a stupid trade.
Quit your whinging it was the Eskimoes that wanted the trade, theyve identified the talent and acted apon. Not like the Ales are a threat anyway ;)
Quote from: Adamant on February 15, 2013, 06:34:51 PM
Quote from: Nails on February 15, 2013, 06:29:39 PM
LOLOLOL Adam, you traded out Lewis and destroyed your team Walker is shower
Walker averages around 106 once you take his sub game out
Lewis averaged 119
Therefore 13ppg loss from Lewis > Walker....
Broughton is a simple 104 ave defender... Considering Brennan had a poor year
Brennan = Broughton
Lewis 10x greater than Walker
Lester > Shaw
How does that help your premiership hopes? It doesn't at all.
Walker is far from shower, he'll go 110-115+ under Mick.
Broughton had a shower year as well, he'll be around the 115 mark too.
This also gives me better flexibilty and depth with Broughton's DPP.
I don't rate Lester and couldn't care less about trading him for Shaw. Much of a muchness IMO.
Seriously, I really can't be bothered arguing anymore. Have fun with your pathetic backline and midfield.
You seem to think every player who has a bad season will improve... Have you not heard of just being bad or having one good season? There's no guarantee Broughton will be better than last year.
Players can have /bad/ seasons but they're not really bad. It's just how they are now.
Overall your team (based roughly on 2012 predictions) now averages less.
Quote from: JBs-Hawks on February 15, 2013, 06:42:15 PM
Quit your whinging it was the Eskimoes that wanted the trade, theyve identified the talent and acted apon. Not like the Ales are a threat anyway ;)
But it's a ridiculous trade.
If Jukes was Coach he'd trade you Swan, Ablett and Pedles for Stanton and 2 average blokes
Just because a team wants a player and overpays huge doesn't mean it can't be ridiculously unfair.
a 30 point per game avarage is not ridiculous uneven in sportsbet when talking about a mid and a fwd.
swan at 150 for masten at 105 would be ridiculously uneven
not masten at 105 for harper at 75
as i said it is right on the limit, but the truth is masten and blair are not premiums if they are pick them for your DT and SC teams....
this is one of the FACTS that got the trade through. motlop WILL improve and so WILL harper, blair and masten won't much if at all, so that 30 point a game differential should be less by the end of 2013 making the trade more even in reality.
@ Nails I don't agree with the trade either but your comparison is ridiculous, Rocky and Redden are the same as masten and blair now are they ?
So then if it was blocked and harper and motlop became jets, what would you have to say? Have you even watched them play before they are both going to be stars, class oozes through eachs veins.
Quote from: Colliwobblers on February 15, 2013, 06:43:46 PM
a 30 point per game avarage is not ridiculous uneven in sportsbet when talking about a mid and a fwd.
swan at 150 for masten at 105 would be ridiculously uneven
not masten at 105 for harper at 75
as i said it is right on the limit, but the truth is masten and blair are not premiums if they are pick them for your DT and SC teams....
this is one of the FACTS that got the trade through. motlop WILL improve and so WILL harper, blair and masten won't much if at all, so that 30 point a game differential should be less by the end of 2013 making the trade more even in reality.
@ Nails I don't agree with the trade either but your comparison is ridiculous, Rocky and Redden are the same as masten and blair now are they ?
We at the Eskimos feel Steven Motlop is a long term prospect who, along with Hibberd, will become the foundations for our backline for years to come. (Once Motlop gets that) We also feel Harper is a long term prospect as key forwards are gold in this gme and they often take longer to mature. Masten we feel will stagnate this year with Wellingham and the return of Embley and Blair will the arrival of Clinton Young and return of Ball, and Collingwoods new playing style.
Quote from: Nails on February 15, 2013, 06:42:26 PM
Quote from: Adamant on February 15, 2013, 06:34:51 PM
Quote from: Nails on February 15, 2013, 06:29:39 PM
LOLOLOL Adam, you traded out Lewis and destroyed your team Walker is shower
Walker averages around 106 once you take his sub game out
Lewis averaged 119
Therefore 13ppg loss from Lewis > Walker....
Broughton is a simple 104 ave defender... Considering Brennan had a poor year
Brennan = Broughton
Lewis 10x greater than Walker
Lester > Shaw
How does that help your premiership hopes? It doesn't at all.
Walker is far from shower, he'll go 110-115+ under Mick.
Broughton had a shower year as well, he'll be around the 115 mark too.
This also gives me better flexibilty and depth with Broughton's DPP.
I don't rate Lester and couldn't care less about trading him for Shaw. Much of a muchness IMO.
Seriously, I really can't be bothered arguing anymore. Have fun with your pathetic backline and midfield.
You seem to think every player who has a bad season will improve... Have you not heard of just being bad or having one good season? There's no guarantee Broughton will be better than last year.
Players can have /bad/ seasons but they're not really bad. It's just how they are now.
Overall your team (based roughly on 2012 predictions) now averages less.
2012 averages are irrelevant. Fyfe averaged only 117 last year ffs. ::)
How have my latest trades affected my average anyway?
OUT: Mundy, Wellingham, Brennan, Lewis, Lester
IN: Boyd, Harvey, Broughton, Walker, M.Shaw
It's actually improved it greatly. ???
Blair 104 vs. Harper 70 = 34 advantage
Masten 113 vs. Motlop 81 = 32 point advantage
= 66 points gained 2 player vs. 2 player
So basically the team gaining Blair and Masten don't even lose Harper because they gain 66 points (4 short of Harper's) average in this trade.
The Boyd trade helped a lot
But the other trade caused you to decline a lot IMO.
Brennan = Broughton
Lewis 10x greater than Walker, you can't deny that. Lewis is easily better than Walker
Anyone interested in Luke Hodge?
Looking for someone slightly younger
Quote from: Nails on February 15, 2013, 06:53:48 PM
The Boyd trade helped a lot
But the other trade caused you to decline a lot IMO.
Brennan = Broughton
Lewis 10x greater than Walker, you can't deny that. Lewis is easily better than Walker
I definitley agree that Lewis is much better than Walker, but Broughton is easily better than Brennan.
His DPP is so valuable too, especially with Boomer missing the first 6 weeks...
Can we now stop the arguing on who's team is better, etc and let the season do the talking?
But the season is so far away, we need to argue, we're rivals ;)
Need something to do in between. Becoming one of FF's fiercest XVs rivalries. I need something to do Adam, don't deny me of it :-X
Quote from: Nails on February 15, 2013, 07:01:22 PM
But the season is so far away, we need to argue, we're rivals ;)
Need something to do in between. Becoming one of FF's fiercest XVs rivalries. I need something to do Adam, don't deny me of it :-X
Haha fine, but I really can't be bothered with anymore banter tonight...
Our rivalry will be flowering epic though. >:D
will blair and maten be in his best 15 ? really ? i would be very surprised if JB has to play masten in his midfield or blair in his fwd line for that matter, maybe one will make the utility position but if you look at his list that is even doubtful.
for the record the facts are that
Masten, Blair, Motlop are all rated by champion data as AVERAGE PLAYERS
harper is rated as BELOW AVERAGE PLAYER.
as for what points he gains well that depends n if he plays those players, being middle of the road players there is no guarantee he will, and you need to look at this
this is what matters - i don't care really WHO LOSES IN A TRADE OR BY HOW MUCH
i do care if a team gets an unfair advantage over other teams through an uneven trade.....
so to work that out
HOW MUCH MORE WILL MATEN and or BLAIR score than THE PLAYER IN JBSHAWKS team that he REPLACES FOR THEM.
so if he takes Pearce (96 avg ) out and puts masten in (113) he gains 17 points per game.
if he takes gunston (88 avg) out and puts blair in (103) he gains 15 points per game.
SO CRY FOR KOOP IF YOU WANT TO
BUT DON'T GO ACTING LIKE HE IS GAINING 66 POINTS PER GAME AND THE REST OF US SUFFER BECAUSE OF THAT BECAUSE THAT IS NOT HOW IT WORKS HE GAINS 32 ( in this example), WHICH OVER A COMPLETE 15 WITH CAPTAIN AND VICE CAPTAIN IS FLOWER ALL NO ?
i think if you do the maths the guy who got boyd gains a whole hell of a lot more over the rest of us for that trade which no one really complained about....
Quote from: Colliwobblers on February 15, 2013, 07:04:11 PM
i think if you do the maths the guy who got boyd gains a whole hell of a lot more over the rest of us for that trade which no one really complained about....
I got Boydy. 8)
Yeah, the trade was really even on paper, mabye even a slight win to Noz.
But if you look at my team and who they replaced, it was:
OUT: Wellingham (111 average) + Mundy (120 average, although will be 130 next year IMO)
IN: Harvey (117 average) + Boyd (147 average and my captain)
Blair is JBs' no.3 forward
Masten his no.5 mid (so therefore bench)
So yes, they both comfortably line up in his best XV.
Quote from: Colliwobblers on February 15, 2013, 07:04:11 PM
i think if you do the maths the guy who got boyd gains a whole hell of a lot more over the rest of us for that trade which no one really complained about....
Yes but Boyd is old and 1-2 years left... Therefore it's a sacrifice long term He's old = not as valuable
This trade is young premium x2 vs. young nothing. There is no long term sacrifice.
Colli is the administrator and what he says goes ;) he's fair & impartial and deserves to have his opinions and decisions respected
*and besides, both sides are happy........so :-X
Quote from: Nails on February 15, 2013, 07:09:50 PM
Blair is JBs' no.3 forward
Masten his no.5 mid (so therefore bench) UTILITY.
So yes, they both comfortably line up in his best XV.
Contraversy on the last day, love it!! ;D
Personally i think some sort of voting system on trades needs to be implemented next yr, dont think it works the way it is setup atm
How the flower is Motlop going to be defender?? Varcoe will be a defender and Motlop will get delisted a year.
Harper is probably the worst player in the comp. Soft as anything, weak as piss, outside player, cannot win the ball, averages 20 in DT
I see two spuds for two good players.
Let's look at the draft:
Blair = Pick 127
Masten Pick 159
Harper Pick 359
Motlop Pick 276
Come on Cw. Make the right choice.
Lol a motor at pick 276. ;D
While I may not still agree with the trade, Colli has now given us his reasoning for the trade and there is some evidence to make it fair. Seeing as we also all agreed that he would have the last say on trades, we have to respect his decision and go with it. Possibly we look at doing trading a different way next year, but for now this trade will go through.
Quote from: Colliwobblers on February 15, 2013, 06:43:46 PM
not masten at 105 for harper at 75
this is one of the FACTS that got the trade through. motlop WILL improve and so WILL harper, blair and masten won't much if at all, so that 30 point a game differential should be less by the end of 2013 making the trade more even in reality.
You realise Masten is 113 and Harper is 70? That's 43 points not 30.
You can't guarantee it's a FACT Motlop/Harper will improve. There's no guarantee. They might never improve. That's like guaranteeing Tambling was going to be a star.
Well if this trade was with say Eskimoes and Bears. Would it be approved?
Quote from: whatlez on February 15, 2013, 07:16:19 PM
How the flower is Motlop going to be defender?? Varcoe will be a defender and Motlop will get delisted a year.
Harper is probably the worst player in the comp. Soft as anything, weak as piss, outside player, cannot win the ball, averages 20 in DT
I see two spuds for two good players.
Let's look at the draft:
Blair = Pick 127
Masten Pick 159
Harper Pick 359
Motlop Pick 276
Come on Cw. Make the right choice.
If you think Motlop will be getting delisted this season you're delusional - he is easily in the Cat's best 22.
The other Motlop's perhaps (Daniel and whoever else it was) were spuds but Motlop is very highly rated at Geelong and from watching their games last season I rate him as well.
I remember seeing twice in once game where because of the zone everyone was in the other forward half. Geelong got a long ball forward and Motlop ran onto it, outpaced all the defenders and goaled.
As mentioned before it looks like he'll spend some as a halfback link man/sweeper for Geelong this which is fantasy gold and could see him as a valued fwd/def next season. Also Harper will be a fwd/mid either next season or the season after.
Also don't quote where players were drafted in this league as I could give you numerous examples of retrospectively poor drafting.
Motlop was pick 39 in the AFL National draft and Harper pick 27. Sure Masten was pick #3 (lol) but Blair was pick #91.
Matthew Boyd was pick 21 in the rookie draft and look how he turned out...
Anyway we're out of list movements now but these are the players who have been traded in. If anyone wants to make a last minute deal we would consider it. We would possibly consider moving on Polec who will be a gun but only for a very good deal.
Looking for defenders.
Brad Ebert
Cam Pedersen
Shannon Byrnes
Steve Motlop
Kieran Harper
Liam Jones
Jared Polec
Andrew Boston
Jay Schulz
Quote from: whatlez on February 15, 2013, 07:16:19 PM
How the flower is Motlop going to be defender?? Varcoe will be a defender and Motlop will get delisted a year.
Harper is probably the worst player in the comp. Soft as anything, weak as piss, outside player, cannot win the ball, averages 20 in DT
I see two spuds for two good players.
Let's look at the draft:
Blair = Pick 127
Masten Pick 159
Harper Pick 359
Motlop Pick 276
Come on Cw. Make the right choice.
Harper worst player in AFL? lol
Motlop delisted? even bigger LOL
Clearly you know flower all about footy, go hire 15 assistants to do you bidding for you.
Quote from: whatlez on February 15, 2013, 07:16:19 PM
Blair = Pick 127
Masten Pick 159
Harper Pick 359
Motlop Pick 276
In Euros last season i got 2 guys who were picked higher than the two i traded away. And at the end of the season i regretted the trade.
Just sayin.
But seriously Harper will never be a fantasy player and Motlop is ordinary at best.
Why doesn't JB just throw a sweetener in or something?
When my bad trade got rejected. I threw in Hartlett.
Quote from: Nails on February 15, 2013, 07:20:12 PM
Quote from: Colliwobblers on February 15, 2013, 06:43:46 PM
not masten at 105 for harper at 75
this is one of the FACTS that got the trade through. motlop WILL improve and so WILL harper, blair and masten won't much if at all, so that 30 point a game differential should be less by the end of 2013 making the trade more even in reality.
You realise Masten is 113 and Harper is 70? That's 43 points not 30.
You can't guarantee it's a FACT Motlop/Harper will improve. There's no guarantee. They might never improve. That's like guaranteeing Tambling was going to be a star.
Seriously Nails? Not a great argument.
You can't guarantee for a FACT that any of the players tbag or one of the teams going for young guns got will improve either. Does that mean they have no currency in the trade market and would that stop a trade being approved for one of them and a premium?
As pointed out above Boyd was pick 21 in the rookie draft. Cox was also a late pick in the rookie draft. Would you have brought them into your team when they were young before they broke out - no.
But, in this style of game (drafting not dt) if you have a player when they break out you benefit greatly.
We're picking them up now before they do.
Quote from: Adamant on February 15, 2013, 07:32:20 PM
Why doesn't JB just throw a sweetener in or something?
Iv got a back door deal for JPK and Shuey to get general soreness over the next two seasons against the Eskimoes.
Quote from: JBs-Hawks on February 15, 2013, 07:34:46 PM
Quote from: Adamant on February 15, 2013, 07:32:20 PM
Why doesn't JB just throw a sweetener in or something?
Iv got a back door deal for JPK and Shuey to get general soreness over the next two seasons against the Eskimoes.
lol fair enough.
Harper went in the 23rd round of our draft. Why wasn't he taken before hand!?! Lol
Don't you just love deadlines?
Quote from: Memphistopheles on February 15, 2013, 07:33:37 PM
Quote from: Nails on February 15, 2013, 07:20:12 PM
Quote from: Colliwobblers on February 15, 2013, 06:43:46 PM
not masten at 105 for harper at 75
this is one of the FACTS that got the trade through. motlop WILL improve and so WILL harper, blair and masten won't much if at all, so that 30 point a game differential should be less by the end of 2013 making the trade more even in reality.
You realise Masten is 113 and Harper is 70? That's 43 points not 30.
You can't guarantee it's a FACT Motlop/Harper will improve. There's no guarantee. They might never improve. That's like guaranteeing Tambling was going to be a star.
Seriously Nails? Not a great argument.
You can't guarantee for a FACT that any of the players tbag or one of the teams going for young guns got will improve either. Does that mean they have no currency in the trade market and would that stop a trade being approved for one of them and a premium?
As pointed out above Boyd was pick 21 in the rookie draft. Cox was also a late pick in the rookie draft. Would you have brought them into your team when they were young before they broke out - no.
But, in this style of game (drafting not dt) if you have a player when they break out you benefit greatly.
We're picking them up now before they do.
Do you even know how the rookie draft used to work?
And you can't compare real life AFL drafts to Fantasy drafts, they look for totally different things.
You're trading out 2 players who have already broken out for players you hope will increase to the level of the players you just traded out.
Quote from: JBs-Hawks on February 15, 2013, 07:29:24 PM
Quote from: whatlez on February 15, 2013, 07:16:19 PM
How the flower is Motlop going to be defender?? Varcoe will be a defender and Motlop will get delisted a year.
Harper is probably the worst player in the comp. Soft as anything, weak as piss, outside player, cannot win the ball, averages 20 in DT
I see two spuds for two good players.
Let's look at the draft:
Blair = Pick 127
Masten Pick 159
Harper Pick 359
Motlop Pick 276
Come on Cw. Make the right choice.
Harper worst player in AFL? lol
Motlop delisted? even bigger LOL
Clearly you know flower all about footy, go hire 15 assistants to do you bidding for you.
Thank you JB.
I remember last season Kevin Sheedy said if he'd stayed at the Bombers he would have tried to trade away Jobe Watson and look at him now.
Both these kids - Harper and Motlop have played two seasons and showed plenty of potential, but they're not nearly at their full potential. Masten and Blair have played more than that and I judge their potential to be less than the aforementioned players.
PS - I love a good bit of controversy/banter so bring it! At least this is bring all the coaches out of the woodwork :D
Don't judge the trade until the end of this season. Then i'll tell you if we made a mistake or not.
Quote from: whatlez on February 15, 2013, 07:16:19 PM
How the flower is Motlop going to be defender?? Varcoe will be a defender and Motlop will get delisted a year.
Harper is probably the worst player in the comp. Soft as anything, weak as piss, outside player, cannot win the ball, averages 20 in DT
I see two spuds for two good players.
Let's look at the draft:
Blair = Pick 127
Masten Pick 159
Harper Pick 359
Motlop Pick 276
Come on Cw. Make the right choice.
dont wont to way into this too much. Harper is a good player, he is being groomed as the replacement of Boomer, rated very highly at North and I rate him as one of our best young players.
Will likely keep forward status all his career playing of that HFF and drifting into the midfield from time to time. His average is decimated from green vests. I predict he will get none this year as he has worked hard in the off season and expext someone new to pick up the vest.
Well JB surely will back you up... He is getting Ablett for Dawson.
Quote from: Holzman on February 15, 2013, 07:38:24 PM
Quote from: whatlez on February 15, 2013, 07:16:19 PM
How the flower is Motlop going to be defender?? Varcoe will be a defender and Motlop will get delisted a year.
Harper is probably the worst player in the comp. Soft as anything, weak as piss, outside player, cannot win the ball, averages 20 in DT
I see two spuds for two good players.
Let's look at the draft:
Blair = Pick 127
Masten Pick 159
Harper Pick 359
Motlop Pick 276
Come on Cw. Make the right choice.
dont wont to way into this too much. Harper is a good player, he is being groomed as the replacement of Boomer, rated very highly at North and I rate him as one of our best young players.
Will likely keep forward status all his career playing of that HFF and drifting into the midfield from time to time. His average is decimated from green vests. I predict he will get none this year as he has worked hard in the off season and expext someone new to pick up the vest.
No. You wanted him in the initial draft and I said no spuds.
Who/what I think of myself as in AXVs:
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Quote from: Holzman on February 15, 2013, 07:38:24 PM
Quote from: whatlez on February 15, 2013, 07:16:19 PM
How the flower is Motlop going to be defender?? Varcoe will be a defender and Motlop will get delisted a year.
Harper is probably the worst player in the comp. Soft as anything, weak as piss, outside player, cannot win the ball, averages 20 in DT
I see two spuds for two good players.
Let's look at the draft:
Blair = Pick 127
Masten Pick 159
Harper Pick 359
Motlop Pick 276
Come on Cw. Make the right choice.
dont wont to way into this too much. Harper is a good player, he is being groomed as the replacement of Boomer, rated very highly at North and I rate him as one of our best young players.
Will likely keep forward status all his career playing of that HFF and drifting into the midfield from time to time. His average is decimated from green vests. I predict he will get none this year as he has worked hard in the off season and expext someone new to pick up the vest.
Holz has essentially summed up my thoughts on him. And he's a North fan - I'm an Eagles nut. I think that this will be Boomers last year?
Also the upside of this is that everyone now wants to trade with us! LOL #bringiton #sendmeyouroffers
Coaches in Asian = 16
Coaches who want to reject trade = 13
*Admin, and other coaches make up the other 3.
Last minute trade... anyone want Moloney or Rischitelli? both close to premium mids when they are up and going.
Still looking for either defender of forward depth.
Ignore me.JB has a shower team as well so meh. At least Eskimoes won't any competition in a few years 8)
l'm still looking to trade Mzungu and/or O'Brien for some youth
Colli can we please have until Midnight tonight? In talks for a trade but need/want to talk to my assistant about it before I put one through :(
Those who complain about trades so much and suggest a voting system for following seasons are the same ones who will bloack any trade they see giving any team an advantage for the same reason and mentality that makes them complain about the trades.
don't be surprised if we switch to a voting sstem if no trade ever gets approved. but that suits me just fine i don't care much for trading.
as for your evaluations of the 4 players involved it is a little dissapointing you seem to say so much and know so little about the players in question.
some clown said " motlop is an outside player who only will do well if Geelong wins "
i don't usually ctiticize people but if you want to run your mouth off in here get your facts straight first.
here is a fact - " Motlop recorded the most pressure acts at Geelong of any fwd ".
here is another one " Motlops kicking into the fwd 50 resulted in a mark for his team 34% of the time the 4th highest percentage of the 175 players in the afl who recorded at least 40 kicks"
another one? " ranked 4 at the cats for goals, 5th for scoreboard impact"
HE WILL BE DELISTED NEXT SEASON ?
as for Harper well Holz obviously knows a lot more about him than any of the rest of you and obviously Memph does too.
harper who was involved in 9 substitutions averaged the 2nd fewest minutes of all north players
- still ranked 4 at north for goals
- 5th for scoreboard impact
- 4th for pressure acts
the spud can't kick straight - 25 goals 18 behinds, you think if he learns to kick straight and plays full games he will average 70 ?
I think in future without wasting my time or energy whenever anyone makes a stupid, argumentative or incorrect post i will just delete it and ignore them.
and next season you are free to all vote on trades but don't ask me to change the system when you all block each others trades.
Quote from: Adamant on February 15, 2013, 07:47:24 PM
Last minute trade... anyone want Moloney or Rischitelli? both close to premium mids when they are up and going.
Still looking for either defender of forward depth.
my offer is still on the table :P you didn't reply to me!
AS FOR THE CLOSING OF THE TRADE WINDOW - I am not inclined to rush to process and approve all the trades tonight during the footy so as i said this morning UNTIL i close it it will remain open.
midnight sounds about close to when i will be ready to close it.
I don't mind teams getting an advantage, I only neg voted about 5 trades in Worlds and I voted on over 100 iirc
It's just this
Trading 2 young stars
for 2 young okay players. Harper and Motlop might be good AFL players but doesn't mean they'll be great FANTASY players. Similar to Judd/Simon Black. Both Bloody stars, but not fantasy relevant in reality.
Therefore pressure acts and whatever else you want to use to impress us with Motlop/Harper is 100% irrelevant. Pressure acts or accurate kicking doesn't score you sportsbet fantasy points.
I understand getting an advantage, but 2 for 2 of same age but 2 stars and 2 non-stars is cray-cray imo.
Quote from: Toga on February 15, 2013, 07:56:03 PM
Quote from: Adamant on February 15, 2013, 07:47:24 PM
Last minute trade... anyone want Moloney or Rischitelli? both close to premium mids when they are up and going.
Still looking for either defender of forward depth.
my offer is still on the table :P you didn't reply to me!
I did reply to you mate
I'm not trading Stanton for Priddis, Lake and Armfield
Armfield would be about our 10th fwd option
Priddis would struggle to get on the field and would be a -30ppg downgrade (once you take into consider VC)
Then Lake is only an 8 ppg improvement over Newman.
No thanks.
Quote from: Colliwobblers on February 15, 2013, 07:55:00 PM
Those who complain about trades so much and suggest a voting system for following seasons are the same ones who will bloack any trade they see giving any team an advantage for the same reason and mentality that makes them complain about the trades.
don't be surprised if we switch to a voting sstem if no trade ever gets approved. but that suits me just fine i don't care much for trading.
as for your evaluations of the 4 players involved it is a little dissapointing you seem to say so much and know so little about the players in question.
some clown said " motlop is an outside player who only will do well if Geelong wins "
i don't usually ctiticize people but if you want to run your mouth off in here get your facts straight first.
here is a fact - " Motlop recorded the most pressure acts at Geelong of any fwd ".
here is another one " Motlops kicking into the fwd 50 resulted in a mark for his team 34% of the time the 4th highest percentage of the 175 players in the afl who recorded at least 40 kicks"
another one? " ranked 4 at the cats for goals, 5th for scoreboard impact"
HE WILL BE DELISTED NEXT SEASON ?
as for Harper well Holz obviously knows a lot more about him than any of the rest of you and obviously Memph does too.
harper who was involved in 9 substitutions averaged the 2nd fewest minutes of all north players
- still ranked 4 at north for goals
- 5th for scoreboard impact
- 4th for pressure acts
the spud can't kick straight - 25 goals 18 behinds, you think if he learns to kick straight and plays full games he will average 70 ?
I think in future without wasting my time or energy whenever anyone makes a stupid, argumentative or incorrect post i will just delete it and ignore them.
and next season you are free to all vote on trades but don't ask me to change the system when you all block each others trades.
Harper and Motlop aren't spuds, without a doubt.
I wouldn't like a voting system, every trade will be blocked like Colli said
Just let the trade go through! We don't want a flowering voting system, that'd be really annoying...
Quote from: JROO8 on February 15, 2013, 07:59:57 PM
Quote from: Colliwobblers on February 15, 2013, 07:55:00 PM
Those who complain about trades so much and suggest a voting system for following seasons are the same ones who will bloack any trade they see giving any team an advantage for the same reason and mentality that makes them complain about the trades.
don't be surprised if we switch to a voting sstem if no trade ever gets approved. but that suits me just fine i don't care much for trading.
as for your evaluations of the 4 players involved it is a little dissapointing you seem to say so much and know so little about the players in question.
some clown said " motlop is an outside player who only will do well if Geelong wins "
i don't usually ctiticize people but if you want to run your mouth off in here get your facts straight first.
here is a fact - " Motlop recorded the most pressure acts at Geelong of any fwd ".
here is another one " Motlops kicking into the fwd 50 resulted in a mark for his team 34% of the time the 4th highest percentage of the 175 players in the afl who recorded at least 40 kicks"
another one? " ranked 4 at the cats for goals, 5th for scoreboard impact"
HE WILL BE DELISTED NEXT SEASON ?
as for Harper well Holz obviously knows a lot more about him than any of the rest of you and obviously Memph does too.
harper who was involved in 9 substitutions averaged the 2nd fewest minutes of all north players
- still ranked 4 at north for goals
- 5th for scoreboard impact
- 4th for pressure acts
the spud can't kick straight - 25 goals 18 behinds, you think if he learns to kick straight and plays full games he will average 70 ?
I think in future without wasting my time or energy whenever anyone makes a stupid, argumentative or incorrect post i will just delete it and ignore them.
and next season you are free to all vote on trades but don't ask me to change the system when you all block each others trades.
Harper and Motlop aren't spuds, without a doubt.
I wouldn't like a voting system, every trade will be blocked like Colli said
'
Worlds involved around 100 trades with a voting system... I think 4-5 trades got declined...
Uhmmm Nails... Do you think that since I quoted Adamant's post I might be talking to him? Nothing was even said about you lol ::) ???
Quote from: Toga on February 15, 2013, 08:04:13 PM
Uhmmm Nails... Do you think that since I quoted Adamant's post I might be talking to him? Nothing was even said about you lol ::) ???
I don't like to speak when spoken to. I speak when not spoken to.
I vote against voting.
Federal, State and Council and now Asians - no thank you.
Although, if there were fines for not voting, to be paid to colliwobblers, then maybe he'd go for it.
To vote for not voting
Is that not a vote in and of itself for voting to be enabled?
Quote from: Colliwobblers on February 15, 2013, 07:55:00 PM
Those who complain about trades so much and suggest a voting system for following seasons are the same ones who will bloack any trade they see giving any team an advantage for the same reason and mentality that makes them complain about the trades.
don't be surprised if we switch to a voting sstem if no trade ever gets approved. but that suits me just fine i don't care much for trading.
as for your evaluations of the 4 players involved it is a little dissapointing you seem to say so much and know so little about the players in question.
some clown said " motlop is an outside player who only will do well if Geelong wins "
i don't usually ctiticize people but if you want to run your mouth off in here get your facts straight first.
here is a fact - " Motlop recorded the most pressure acts at Geelong of any fwd ".
here is another one " Motlops kicking into the fwd 50 resulted in a mark for his team 34% of the time the 4th highest percentage of the 175 players in the afl who recorded at least 40 kicks"
another one? " ranked 4 at the cats for goals, 5th for scoreboard impact"
HE WILL BE DELISTED NEXT SEASON ?
as for Harper well Holz obviously knows a lot more about him than any of the rest of you and obviously Memph does too.
harper who was involved in 9 substitutions averaged the 2nd fewest minutes of all north players
- still ranked 4 at north for goals
- 5th for scoreboard impact
- 4th for pressure acts
the spud can't kick straight - 25 goals 18 behinds, you think if he learns to kick straight and plays full games he will average 70 ?
I think in future without wasting my time or energy whenever anyone makes a stupid, argumentative or incorrect post i will just delete it and ignore them.
and next season you are free to all vote on trades but don't ask me to change the system when you all block each others trades.
l for one fully support you Colli, and think that if we went to the voting system everything would be compromised
Quote from: Nails on February 15, 2013, 08:09:22 PM
To vote for not voting
Is that not a vote in and of itself for voting to be enabled?
Can one veto a vote without it counting as a vote but rather a veto?
Quote from: Nails on February 15, 2013, 08:05:36 PM
Quote from: Toga on February 15, 2013, 08:04:13 PM
Uhmmm Nails... Do you think that since I quoted Adamant's post I might be talking to him? Nothing was even said about you lol ::) ???
I don't like to speak when spoken to. I speak when not spoken to.
:P ::)
I'm that spud mentioned :D lol.
I'm over it now. I'm happy in two years, one team will not be competetive. Just sayin'
Lol Wut I didn't notice Kieran Harper only averaged 49.1 in DT. And Motlop averaged 58 in DT. I thought they bad, but not that bad lol.
I just want to take this opportunity to say that the mighty Taiwanese Dolphins are still undefeated!
Taipei rules - OK! 8)
Quote from: whatlez on February 15, 2013, 08:32:26 PM
Lol Wut I didn't notice Kieran Harper only averaged 49.1 in DT. And Motlop averaged 58 in DT. I thought they bad, but not that bad lol.
this isnt DT and i said clown not spud.
I've used up my quota of PM's this hour sorry for anyone trying to contact me.
Post here if you want to discuss something, talk to KoopKicka or else I'll get back to you later.
^ I hate that PM quota thing. Why is it in place? Any chance we could ask m0nty to scrap it? ???
Man I got a bargain w/ Old man Fletcher.
STAR
Quote from: Nails on February 15, 2013, 09:07:29 PM
Man I got a bargain w/ Old man Fletcher.
STAR
Hahah ::)
Looking good early though
Bangladesh Bears (Adamant) gives: Michael Rischitelli
Mongolian Lambs (Toga) gives: Dennis Armfield
Toga to confirm.
Dont shut the window just yet, still negotiating.
Quote from: Adamant on February 15, 2013, 11:56:27 PM
Bangladesh Bears (Adamant) gives: Michael Rischitelli
Mongolian Lambs (Toga) gives: Dennis Armfield
Toga to confirm.
CONFIRMHoping Rischi can get back to his 2011 form, will give us a fantastic mid emg. Think Armfield has good potential though, so a bit sorry to see him go.
Not trying to start an argument here Ada...
But Risky Television has shown premium numbers. Armfield top DT average of 62? Not sure what you see there.
I'm not sure you can trade ??? footy's started and trade period is over? ???
Quote from: Nails on February 16, 2013, 12:10:26 AM
Not trying to start an argument here Ada...
But Risky Television has shown premium numbers. Armfield top DT average of 62? Not sure what you see there.
Armfield is an M/F in carlton's best 22, ave 85 sportsbet last year and has increased his ave by 10pts every year since he was recruited as a mature-ager...
He needed fwd depth, i needed mid depth! ;)
Quote from: tbagrocks on February 16, 2013, 12:14:28 AM
I'm not sure you can trade ??? footy's started and trade period is over? ???
Colli said it'll close @ midnight or when he says so a bit earlier. :)
Quote from: Nails on February 16, 2013, 12:10:26 AM
Not trying to start an argument here Ada...
But Risky Television has shown premium numbers. Armfield top DT average of 62? Not sure what you see there.
Why are you against every single trade I make?
We need forward depth and Armfield averaged 66 (DT) if you remove his sub affected games.
Rischitelli was completing a specialised program to overcome HS tendonitis issues that he had last season and didn't join the main group until after Christmas. His pre-season has been delayed yet again, and I don't think he can get back to old form...
If he does get back to old form however, it is a massive win to Toga.
Would've given you Giansiracusa for him possibly/probably
Gia > Armfield for your title hopes imo.
Nails Gives: Ben Howlett + Caolon Mooney
KK Gives: Jay Schulz + Shannon Byrnes
Nails to confirm.
Quote from: Nails on February 16, 2013, 12:20:11 AM
Would've given you Giansiracusa for him possibly/probably
Gia > Armfield for your title hopes imo.
Gia is shower. He'll average around the same as Armfield, but is much older and doesn't have DPP.
Also, Armfield averaged higher than Risky last year so im probably the one taking a risk! :o
Although he is one of my footy man-crushes so I'm happy with him either way lol :-*
Quote from: KoopKicka on February 16, 2013, 12:21:47 AM
Nails Gives: Ben Howlett + Caolon Mooney
KK Gives: Jay Schulz + Shannon Byrnes
Nails to confirm.
Confirmed.
117 average @ 23yo for Howlett and going to be a premium in Asians so it'll be sad to see him go.
Mooney managed to break into a top 4 side (albeit as a sub) so sad to see him go.
Schulz should be good fwd cover and Byrnes will be interesting.
Ontrading Mooney so uses up my last movement.
Quote from: KoopKicka on February 16, 2013, 12:21:47 AM
Nails Gives: Ben Howlett + Caolon Mooney
KK Gives: Jay Schulz + Shannon Byrnes
Nails to confirm.
You guys said that you wouldn't trade Schulz. ::)
Quote from: Adamant on February 16, 2013, 12:25:26 AM
Quote from: KoopKicka on February 16, 2013, 12:21:47 AM
Nails Gives: Ben Howlett + Caolon Mooney
KK Gives: Jay Schulz + Shannon Byrnes
Nails to confirm.
You guys said that you wouldn't trade Schulz. ::)
Did I?
Sorry :o But Howlett was too good to pass up.
I wouldn't trade Schultz, will be a gun this year if... he does play most games
Quote from: tbagrocks on February 16, 2013, 12:28:38 AM
I wouldn't trade Schultz, will be a gun this year if... he does play most games
2nded. If he stays on the park 50+ goals easily.
Quote from: Toga on February 15, 2013, 11:59:53 PM
Quote from: Adamant on February 15, 2013, 11:56:27 PM
Bangladesh Bears (Adamant) gives: Michael Rischitelli
Mongolian Lambs (Toga) gives: Dennis Armfield
Toga to confirm.
CONFIRM
Hoping Rischi can get back to his 2011 form, will give us a fantastic mid emg. Think Armfield has good potential though, so a bit sorry to see him go.
Quote from: Adamant on February 16, 2013, 12:31:31 AM
Hey Colli, I posted a trade with Toga in the section (Rischitelli for Armfield), but I just realised that I don't have the list movements to do it. :o
Michael Johnson wasn't on-traded, which means I had 0 left. Please cancel this trade.
CANCELLED
TRADE WINDOW IS OPEN UNTIL I CLOSE IT - IF THERE ARE NO OBJECTIONS GIVEN THE NAB CUP HAS ALREADY STARTED I AM HAPPY TO KEEP THE TRADE WINDOW OPEN UNTIL SOME TIME TOMORROW NIGHT.
I WOULD THINK ABOUT 8PM.
Quote from: SilkySkills on February 16, 2013, 12:31:53 AM
Quote from: tbagrocks on February 16, 2013, 12:28:38 AM
I wouldn't trade Schultz, will be a gun this year if... he does play most games
2nded. If he stays on the park 60+ goals easily.
Fixed
It can close now if you like Colli ;) as long as you approve my trade :D
Quote from: tbagrocks on February 16, 2013, 12:37:57 AM
Quote from: SilkySkills on February 16, 2013, 12:31:53 AM
Quote from: tbagrocks on February 16, 2013, 12:28:38 AM
I wouldn't trade Schultz, will be a gun this year if... he does play most games
2nded. If he stays on the park 60+ goals easily.
Fixed
I didn't want to sound too biased. tbh i think he'll be 2nd in the coleman if he plays them all.
Don't close it yet I still need Brad Crouch and Taylor Walker, possible Sam Col :P but Lez is a trading nazi so that's unlikely ::)
Quote from: SilkySkills on February 16, 2013, 12:44:20 AM
Quote from: tbagrocks on February 16, 2013, 12:37:57 AM
Quote from: SilkySkills on February 16, 2013, 12:31:53 AM
Quote from: tbagrocks on February 16, 2013, 12:28:38 AM
I wouldn't trade Schultz, will be a gun this year if... he does play most games
2nded. If he stays on the park 60+ goals easily.
Fixed
I didn't want to sound too biased. tbh i think he'll be 2nd in the coleman if he plays them all.
He has been super impressive when he has actually played for Port, second behind the great man is possible yeah ;D
Quote from: tbagrocks on February 16, 2013, 12:45:06 AM
Don't close it yet I still need Brad Crouch and Taylor Walker, possible Sam Col :P but Lez is a trading nazi so that's unlikely ::)
No Sam Col s worth a lot more than what you propose. And you propose nothing. Lol,
Quote from: tbagrocks on February 16, 2013, 12:46:09 AM
Quote from: SilkySkills on February 16, 2013, 12:44:20 AM
Quote from: tbagrocks on February 16, 2013, 12:37:57 AM
Quote from: SilkySkills on February 16, 2013, 12:31:53 AM
Quote from: tbagrocks on February 16, 2013, 12:28:38 AM
I wouldn't trade Schultz, will be a gun this year if... he does play most games
2nded. If he stays on the park 60+ goals easily.
Fixed
I didn't want to sound too biased. tbh i think he'll be 2nd in the coleman if he plays them all.
He has been super impressive when he has actually played for Port, second behind the great man is possible yeah ;D
Yeah Tex will win and be the best fwd in the fantasy game.
Quote from: tbagrocks on February 16, 2013, 12:28:38 AM
I wouldn't trade Schultz, will be a gun this year if... he does play most games
Hopefully for you Butcher steals his thunder.
The offer to get Howlett was to good to pass up.
Our midfield is now set for the next 4 seasons at least imo.
Pendlebury (25), Ebert (23), Howlett (24) and Hannebery (22). Plus Polec (20) should break into that elite category by then.
Also IMO our forward line could be locked in as well.
Rioli (24), Dahlhaus (20), Motlop(22), Harper (21).
We were sad to lose Howlett, but the trade just gave our team superior balance to before
110-115 ave mid cover
113 ave fwd for cover
Therefore can use the fwd as a bench/utility if we lose a mid. It gives us the ability to cover fwds w/ mids and mids w/ fwds.
It works a real treat.
Yeah I can see the idea behind it
Butcher is going to almost be Taylor Walker mark 2, his body is a worry however :-\
PB you're not helping me trading in the great man ::)
Hey I got a great idea, lets have the whole draft over again :P
Lez you don't deserve Col and you know it, the No 1 Rook pick was way in your advantage, also no guarantee he will make it, small skinny kid with no defencive ability
Quote from: tbagrocks on February 16, 2013, 12:56:42 AM
Yeah I can see the idea behind it
Butcher is going to almost be Taylor Walker mark 2, his body is a worry however :-\
PB you're not helping me trading in the great man ::)
Hey I got a great idea, lets have the whole draft over again :P
Lez you don't deserve Col and you know it, the No 1 Rook pick was way in your advantage, also no guarantee he will make it, small skinny kid with no defencive ability
Lez and I both deserved the top Rookie/Nat picks (even though I traded pick 2).
You guys all got to pick captains in the initial draft, while we had to settle for guys like Jelwood and Redden. ::)
Redden (22), Barlow (25), S.selwood (22), Boak (24), Shiel (19), Shiels (21)
With Whitfield (18) and Wines (18)
I think I am set for 8 years 8)
Fair enough Ads i'll go with that, although you got a far better VC option than Nails ect
Dangerfield 22, Trengove 21, Wallis 20, Gaff 20, Clay Smith 19, Wingard 19,
Toumpas 18, Macrae 18
got you beat
Quote from: tbagrocks on February 16, 2013, 01:04:39 AM
Fair enough Ads i'll go with that, although you got a far better VC option than Nails ect
Dangerfield 22, Trengove 21, Wallis 20, Gaff 20, Clay Smith 19, Wingard 19,
Toumpas 18, Macrae 18
got you beat
Lol dog please. Trengove lol.
dog? What are you a black fella from America?
I know more about Trengove than you think ;) Somebody might have seen him for Sturt and If Melbourne didn't tank and get two picks for certain they would have taken the South Aussie at pick one ;)
Someone trade me someone young for Hodge... Please :)
Quote from: tbagrocks on February 16, 2013, 01:11:52 AM
dog? What are you a black fella from America?
I know more about Trengove than you think ;) Somebody might have seen him for Sturt and If Melbourne didn't tank and get two picks for certain they would have taken the South Aussie at pick one ;)
Do you think Scully is good?
Besides how is an older Trav Boak any better ::)
Bock is a jet. Ask anyone.
Quote from: JROO8 on February 16, 2013, 01:14:13 AM
Someone trade me someone young for Hodge... Please :)
Heath Hocking
Quote from: Nails on February 16, 2013, 12:23:33 AM
Quote from: KoopKicka on February 16, 2013, 12:21:47 AM
Nails Gives: Ben Howlett + Caolon Mooney
KK Gives: Jay Schulz + Shannon Byrnes
Nails to confirm.
Confirmed.
APPROVED
Quote from: whatlez on February 16, 2013, 01:22:04 AM
Bock is a jet. Ask anyone.
And Trengove isn't ::) neither is Scully ::) Judd? Rioli? Just say'n, jet players don't natually score well
Ok mate let's have a bet, Trengove will out score Boak, you'd be favorite i'll admit that as yes he is a jet, bet fantasy wise he hasen't done it, Trengove is just almost as likely to boom even with no pre-season
So what's the bet?
Also I'll bet that Rory Laird is a better footballer than Sam Col, let's see in four years ;)
@ Adamant, yeah looking through the thread for trades to process, i have posted cancelled on that one ... OOPS.
You're the one who loves Sam Col lol.
I go on that bet. Boak to out score on average over Trengove.
Quote from: whatlez on February 16, 2013, 01:32:38 AM
You're the one who loves Sam Col lol.
I go on that bet. Boak to out score on average over Trengove.
You're the one who picked him over Mitchell, Martin ect, I just wanted to join my three boys Benny, Col and Jimmy, Col has never played a senior game, big risk if you ask me, worth taking yes but a risk
Ok the higher average wins, the Tex cup ::)
Quote from: tbagrocks on February 16, 2013, 01:39:56 AM
Quote from: whatlez on February 16, 2013, 01:32:38 AM
You're the one who loves Sam Col lol.
I go on that bet. Boak to out score on average over Trengove.
You're the one who picked him over Mitchell, Martin ect, I just wanted to join my three boys Benny, Col and Jimmy, Col has never played a senior game, big risk if you ask me, worth taking yes but a risk
Ok the higher average wins, the Tex cup ::)
Picked who over Martin, Mitchell etc ???
Quote from: whatlez on February 16, 2013, 01:46:55 AM
Quote from: tbagrocks on February 16, 2013, 01:39:56 AM
Quote from: whatlez on February 16, 2013, 01:32:38 AM
You're the one who loves Sam Col lol.
I go on that bet. Boak to out score on average over Trengove.
You're the one who picked him over Mitchell, Martin ect, I just wanted to join my three boys Benny, Col and Jimmy, Col has never played a senior game, big risk if you ask me, worth taking yes but a risk
Ok the higher average wins, the Tex cup ::)
Picked who over Martin, Mitchell etc ???
Really? You took Col before Osborne, Mitchell and Kyle Martin or have you forgotten ???
Quote from: tbagrocks on February 16, 2013, 01:51:51 AM
Quote from: whatlez on February 16, 2013, 01:46:55 AM
Quote from: tbagrocks on February 16, 2013, 01:39:56 AM
Quote from: whatlez on February 16, 2013, 01:32:38 AM
You're the one who loves Sam Col lol.
I go on that bet. Boak to out score on average over Trengove.
You're the one who picked him over Mitchell, Martin ect, I just wanted to join my three boys Benny, Col and Jimmy, Col has never played a senior game, big risk if you ask me, worth taking yes but a risk
Ok the higher average wins, the Tex cup ::)
Picked who over Martin, Mitchell etc ???
Really? You took Col before Osborne, Mitchell and Kyle Martin or have you forgotten ???
Oh those players. Yeah the the others are still on the rookie list.
I need all coaches to submit your 6 rookie listed players ASAP so I can finalize team lists tonight. Trade window will close tonight some time and following that i need all teams rookie lists, just the 6 going on your rookie list is all i need from you.
if you have finished trading you might as well submit the rookies to be now no need to wait for the trade window to end.
Really trading is still going?
Working tonight, can I submit my rookies after work (around 10pm) pl0x?
Quote from: Nails on February 16, 2013, 01:05:44 PM
Working tonight, can I submit my rookies after work (around 10pm) pl0x?
yeah no problem nails.
yes whatlez no one is actually trading so far, but i missed the start of the nab cup so was no reason to close it i will tonight some time. bit hard to have people trying to finalize trades after work before the footy started last night so i extended it.
Quote from: JROO8 on February 16, 2013, 02:04:04 PM
Quote from: Colliwobblers on February 16, 2013, 02:02:20 PM
yep do we have all 3 confirmed?
Yep, just realized Tbag only sent his confirmation post to me
Quote from: tbagrocks on February 16, 2013, 01:58:36 PM
Quote from: JROO8 on February 16, 2013, 01:52:59 PM
Ok Colli a big 4 way trade
JROO8 gives Matt Wright + Luke Hodge
JROO8 gets Mitch Robinson + Stephen Hill
Colliwobblers gives Mitch Robinson + Stephen Hill
Colliwobblers gets Matt Wright + Hayden Crozier
Tbagrocks gives Hayden Crozier
Tbagrocks gets Lachie Neale
JBsHawks gives Lachie Neale
JbsHawks gets Luke Hodge
Colli, Tbag and JB to confirm
Give me Wright >:( :P
Confirm
Confirmed by all coaches through PM
APPROVED
JROO the big winner there.
Colli, not sure what you are thinking - you took Robbo early for a reason and Hill beats Crozier comfortably.
Quote from: Jayman on February 16, 2013, 02:33:25 PM
JROO the big winner there.
Colli, not sure what you are thinking - you took Robbo early for a reason and Hill beats Crozier comfortably.
I don't think Hill beats Crozier. I'd rather Crozier over Hill.
Hill isn't so great. Only averaged 88 SB points and isn't a accumulator of the ball, so will never be a real high scorer.
Crozier is a first round draft pick and will be a gun in a few years time. He has a skinny frame, but yeah once he puts on some muscle,he'll be a gun.
Quote from: Jayman on February 16, 2013, 02:33:25 PM
JROO the big winner there.
Colli, not sure what you are thinking - you took Robbo early for a reason and Hill beats Crozier comfortably.
yes Hill beats crozier for now. But i have a ridiculous amount of midfield depth at that age and level, i need to add depth to fwd for the next 2 seasons which crozier as a first round pick and his efforts so far are impressive at the lower level was a good get for my team.
robbo i took on average only, dont really like him as a player and he has had run with roles regularly ths due to his hardness could see mick develop him into a macaffer (defensive fwd type role) ? and he is always a change to be injured or suspended.
wright was the second only to dangerfield at the crows last season in improvement and should see plenty of midfield time again in 2013 AND he ranked elite in score assists clearances and topped 30 possessions twice showing he could become an elite midfielder, something i think robbo never will.
it is a risk and again robbo is simply worth MORE right now but i have a feeling wright will be better in the long run, a goal kicking midfielder in sportsbet is the ultimate get.
time will tell.
but im not arguing JROO wins as of right now.
Quote from: Jayman on February 16, 2013, 02:33:25 PM
JROO the big winner there.
Colli, not sure what you are thinking - you took Robbo early for a reason and Hill beats Crozier comfortably.
I'd call Jroo the loser
Wright = Robinson
Hodge >>> Hill
JRoo loses,
Colli loses,
Tbag meh.
JBs wins huge.
VS made a few boners and Crozier is a mid only :P
Quote from: tbagrocks on February 16, 2013, 03:00:39 PM
VS made a few boners and Crozier is a mid only :P
in sportsbet he is a FWD only which is his correct position.
@ Nails - Hodge is worthless to those of us with young sides, and to be honest he might think his body (knees) will hold up for another season or two- but most people are not so confident about his body as he seems to be.
again time will tell.
Ok, Dustin Martin is available for trade. PM me your best offer.
Quote from: Colliwobblers on February 16, 2013, 03:06:34 PM
Quote from: tbagrocks on February 16, 2013, 03:00:39 PM
VS made a few boners and Crozier is a mid only :P
in sportsbet he is a FWD only which is his correct position.
@ Nails - Hodge is worthless to those of us with young sides, and to be honest he might think his body (knees) will hold up for another season or two- but most people are not so confident about his body as he seems to be.
again time will tell.
Yeah he's a FWD only.
http://supercoach.heraldsun.com.au/player/235
And yeah a lot of people were concerned about Hodge and his injuries.
I didn't know that ::) wouldn't of traded :P
I havnt posted a trade in ages!! its been good to get back into it :)
CW Gives: S.Thompson + S.Johnson + H.Crozier
We Give: S.Grigg + S.Hurn + J.Howe
CW to confirm.
wow big trade guys
Wow nice. That puts your team way stronger pickers/toga
There goes all of Colli's forward premiums... :P
Quote from: whatlez on February 16, 2013, 06:29:46 PM
Wow nice. That puts your team way stronger pickers/toga
Pretty happy with it. Lose promising younger guns in Howe & Grigg but gain massively from the older guys - thommo is the kind of VC material we need for this year, while Stevie should further strengthen our fwds 8)
Now we know why CW left the window open :P
Quote from: Adamant on February 16, 2013, 06:30:42 PM
There goes all of Colli's forward premiums... :P
Yes they are all gone.
i think it is really well balanced considering the Lambs are in the premiership window, and the vipers are in the ??? bulldogs window ???
and no tbag this offer came out of nowhere from pickers and it just worked for me so i took it. I want to do well in 2013 so the loss of those two ELITE players hurts a lot but I have to be looking ahead given the reality of my poor quality list at present.
Quote from: picker_man on February 16, 2013, 06:26:55 PM
I havnt posted a trade in ages!! its been good to get back into it :)
CW Gives: S.Thompson + S.Johnson + H.Crozier
We Give: S.Grigg + S.Hurn + J.Howe
CW to confirm.
Confirm
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Quote from: Colliwobblers on February 16, 2013, 06:55:19 PM
Quote from: Adamant on February 16, 2013, 06:30:42 PM
There goes all of Colli's forward premiums... :P
Yes they are all gone.
i think it is really well balanced considering the Lambs are in the premiership window, and the vipers are in the ??? bulldogs window ???
and no tbag this offer came out of nowhere from pickers and it just worked for me so i took it. I want to do well in 2013 so the loss of those two ELITE players hurts a lot but I have to be looking ahead given the reality of my poor quality list at present.
I was going to write exactly the same thing, is really well balanced imo and works we'll for both of us :)
and yeah i approached CW with this trade a few hrs ago he had no idea it was coming ;)
given the nab cup has already started, footy is on people are busy, i have had tim to make final trades in order to give others the same opportunity such as nails and others who may have worked or played all day i am not going to close the trade window until 2PM QLD TIME tomorrow.
but then I WILL CLOSE IT and that will be that. Teams will be finalized and coaches WILL give me their rookie lists :)
enjoy the footy
Quote from: Colliwobblers on February 16, 2013, 09:44:26 PM
given the nab cup has already started, footy is on people are busy, i have had tim to make final trades in order to give others the same opportunity such as nails and others who may have worked or played all day i am not going to close the trade window until 2PM QLD TIME tomorrow.
but then I WILL CLOSE IT and that will be that. Teams will be finalized and coaches WILL give me their rookie lists :)
enjoy the footy
Excellent, thanks for the update Colli.
Possibly some big developments at the Eskimos going down.
Was just settling in for a nice quite arvo/evening to watch my beloved Eagles play and then all of a sudden the trade offers/deals flooded in (to be fair I did propose one deal myself).
Eagles looking good again, embley lecras kennedy nicoski back should be another top 4 finish and another crack at the flag.
Hmmm the Lambs are definitely trying to build a strong side here. Should make for some good rivalry matches when we beat them ;)
Ok so I've been talking to a club about a trade but we're a bit stuck so I thought I'd post here and see if anyone else is interested in getting involved in a three-way deal.
We want a good, young defender (24 or under) that we can start ahead of (Dale) Morris and (Marty) Clarke.
We're willing to put an AFL top 5 draft pick in Polec on the table.
We are out of list movements but the following players could be on-traded should the right offer come in.
Howlett
Pedersen
Liam Jones
Motlop
Harper
Polec
Boston
Mooney
Brad Ebert
PM if you're interested.
Quote from: BB67th on February 16, 2013, 11:03:08 PM
Hmmm the Lambs are definitely trying to build a strong side here. Should make for some good rivalry matches when we beat them ;)
we had a strong side before the trade :P but we are looking forward to the rivalry BB :) you guys are lucky you have Swan without him you wouldnt worry many haha ;D
Quote from: picker_man on February 16, 2013, 11:31:52 PM
Quote from: BB67th on February 16, 2013, 11:03:08 PM
Hmmm the Lambs are definitely trying to build a strong side here. Should make for some good rivalry matches when we beat them ;)
we had a strong side before the trade :P but we are looking forward to the rivalry BB :) you guys are lucky you have Swan without him you wouldnt worry many haha ;D
We have a good all round side mate, that don't get affected by too many injuries or suspensions. I don't see how we won't get the premiership this year :D
Quote from: picker_man on February 16, 2013, 11:31:52 PM
Quote from: BB67th on February 16, 2013, 11:03:08 PM
Hmmm the Lambs are definitely trying to build a strong side here. Should make for some good rivalry matches when we beat them ;)
we had a strong side before the trade :P but we are looking forward to the rivalry BB :) you guys are lucky you have Swan without him you wouldnt worry many haha ;D
Haha so true. Swanny is the only thing that gives them a chance at the premiership.
Anyone want Chris Mayne?
Quote from: BB67th on February 16, 2013, 11:39:41 PM
Anyone want Chris Mayne?
He's injured. ;) You traded him to whatlez though, remember?
Yeah I'll take Mayne back lol.
Get around Barlow fellas 8)
Quote from: Adamant on February 16, 2013, 11:40:43 PM
Quote from: BB67th on February 16, 2013, 11:39:41 PM
Anyone want Chris Mayne?
He's injured. ;) You traded him to whatlez though, remember?
Yes that's why I said who wants him, it looks quite serious. And I got him off Whatlez.
Quote from: BB67th on February 16, 2013, 11:48:02 PM
Quote from: Adamant on February 16, 2013, 11:40:43 PM
Quote from: BB67th on February 16, 2013, 11:39:41 PM
Anyone want Chris Mayne?
He's injured. ;) You traded him to whatlez though, remember?
Yes that's why I said who wants him, it looks quite serious. And I got him off Whatlez.
Ohh, I thought you traded him to whatlez lol.
What exactelly for Mayne then?
Quote from: Adamant on February 16, 2013, 11:50:09 PM
Quote from: BB67th on February 16, 2013, 11:48:02 PM
Quote from: Adamant on February 16, 2013, 11:40:43 PM
Quote from: BB67th on February 16, 2013, 11:39:41 PM
Anyone want Chris Mayne?
He's injured. ;) You traded him to whatlez though, remember?
Yes that's why I said who wants him, it looks quite serious. And I got him off Whatlez.
Ohh, I thought you traded him to whatlez lol.
Yeah I'll take him back... But half price lol.
Quote from: tbagrocks on February 16, 2013, 11:51:07 PM
What exactelly for Mayne then?
Well I really don't want to trade him now, I sort of thought he would be out for the entire season when he did his injury and panicked :P
....What would you offer though?
I'll give you Jarryn Geary.
Quote from: Adamant on February 16, 2013, 11:35:46 PM
Quote from: picker_man on February 16, 2013, 11:31:52 PM
Quote from: BB67th on February 16, 2013, 11:03:08 PM
Hmmm the Lambs are definitely trying to build a strong side here. Should make for some good rivalry matches when we beat them ;)
we had a strong side before the trade :P but we are looking forward to the rivalry BB :) you guys are lucky you have Swan without him you wouldnt worry many haha ;D
Haha so true. Swanny is the only thing that gives them a chance at the premiership.
Glad im not the only one who thinks that way, you kill them on everyline imo Adz ;)
Quote from: BB67th on February 16, 2013, 11:33:30 PM
Quote from: picker_man on February 16, 2013, 11:31:52 PM
Quote from: BB67th on February 16, 2013, 11:03:08 PM
Hmmm the Lambs are definitely trying to build a strong side here. Should make for some good rivalry matches when we beat them ;)
we had a strong side before the trade :P but we are looking forward to the rivalry BB :) you guys are lucky you have Swan without him you wouldnt worry many haha ;D
We have a good all round side mate, that don't get affected by too many injuries or suspensions. I don't see how we won't get the premiership this year :D
You have Nicholson, Mackie, Gilbert, Bastinac, Vince, Ballantyne, Foley, Minson on the field surely your backups arnt that good haha
Quote from: whatlez on February 16, 2013, 11:45:46 PM
Yeah I'll take Mayne back lol.
Get around Barlow fellas 8)
Lol i knew when Barlow was killing it you would say something haha. Wanna trade him?? lol
I have Nicholson god dammit >:(. Change your team thread?!?!
Quote from: whatlez on February 16, 2013, 11:56:46 PM
I have Nicholson god dammit >:(. Change your team thread?!?!
Hahaha yes I am getting around to that tomorrow, don't worry.
And Pickers they may not be the highest scorers, but they score consistently every round of the year, and I know I am going to get good scoring out of them, and then with people like Swan, Zorko, Goddard and Cloke around them, they will be a great team.
Geary for Mayne?
Quote from: BB67th on February 16, 2013, 11:59:21 PM
Quote from: whatlez on February 16, 2013, 11:56:46 PM
I have Nicholson god dammit >:(. Change your team thread?!?!
Hahaha yes I am getting around to that tomorrow, don't worry.
And Pickers they may not be the highest scorers, but they score consistently every round of the year, and I know I am going to get good scoring out of them, and then with people like Swan, Zorko, Goddard and Cloke around them, they will be a great team.
fair enough BB :) should be a great game when we play you, I hope those guys you mentioned dont fire or we will be in trouble :(
what do you want for Mayne? Look at my team thread imo.
PM me.
I was only joking about trading Mayne.
The Folders aren't actively looking to do anymore trading now as the period ends tomorrow, but if we are going to do any, we would need replacement players for those in the best XV or some good kids for depth.
Get around Motlop lol ::)
And then Masten and Blair going reasonable well ::)
With deadline approaching the Strikers are keen to trade. Can only on-trade so here is the list of players we could move.
Scott D. Thompson
Matt Suckling (close to off the table)
Heath Grundy
Levi Casboult
Steele Sidebottom
Sam Darley
Mitch Golby (close to off the table)
Dale Thomas (close to off the table)
Jon Ceglar
PM me with a reasonable offer and I'm sure we could get something done.
I can on trade:
Mitch Robinson
Hamish Hartlett
Shaun Higgins
Chris Knights
Jack Ziebell
Calncee Pearce
Ryan Griffen
Chris Yarran
Jarrod Harbrow
Allen Christensen
Quote from: whatlez on February 17, 2013, 12:44:59 AM
Get around Motlop lol ::)
And then Masten and Blair going reasonable well ::)
yes Whatlez you sound like a broken record ::) we all know the trade sucked....
but motlop had 2 more possessions than caddy did in his full game.... nab cup game #1 (for him) not much to go by.
Quote from: Colliwobblers on February 17, 2013, 02:20:32 AM
Quote from: whatlez on February 17, 2013, 12:44:59 AM
Get around Motlop lol ::)
And then Masten and Blair going reasonable well ::)
yes Whatlez you sound like a broken record ::) we all know the trade sucked....
but motlop had 2 more possessions than caddy did in his full game.... nab cup game #1 (for him) not much to go by.
Caddy is a horrible players and fantasy scorer. Not a good comparison.
As if Boak's any better ::) Barlow got lucky
Quote from: whatlez on February 17, 2013, 03:34:47 AM
Quote from: Colliwobblers on February 17, 2013, 02:20:32 AM
Quote from: whatlez on February 17, 2013, 12:44:59 AM
Get around Motlop lol ::)
And then Masten and Blair going reasonable well ::)
yes Whatlez you sound like a broken record ::) we all know the trade sucked....
but motlop had 2 more possessions than caddy did in his full game.... nab cup game #1 (for him) not much to go by.
Caddy is a horrible players and fantasy scorer. Not a good comparison.
but caddy has potential at least to be a lower level luke ball in and under inside midfielder in time and make the lower level of premiumness...
Quote from: Colliwobblers on February 17, 2013, 12:57:58 PM
Quote from: whatlez on February 17, 2013, 03:34:47 AM
Quote from: Colliwobblers on February 17, 2013, 02:20:32 AM
Quote from: whatlez on February 17, 2013, 12:44:59 AM
Get around Motlop lol ::)
And then Masten and Blair going reasonable well ::)
yes Whatlez you sound like a broken record ::) we all know the trade sucked....
but motlop had 2 more possessions than caddy did in his full game.... nab cup game #1 (for him) not much to go by.
Caddy is a horrible players and fantasy scorer. Not a good comparison.
but caddy has potential at least to be a lower level luke ball in and under inside midfielder in time and make the lower level of premiumness...
Caddy has no potential. I was ecstatic when he was leaving the Gold Coast.
Trading finishes in like 2 hours yeah?
If anyone wants to do any last minute trades I'm willing to trade any of these players
Ziebell
Knights
Higgins
Pearce
Griffen
Christensen
Yarran
Harbrow
Hartlett
Robinson
Quote from: JROO8 on February 17, 2013, 02:56:59 PM
Trading finishes in like 2 hours yeah?
If anyone wants to do any last minute trades I'm willing to trade any of these players
Ziebell
Knights
Higgins
Pearce
Griffen
Christensen
Yarran
Harbrow
Hartlett
Robinson
just pm me if you are working on a trade and dont quite get it done by 2pm i may be able to process it a little later
Quote from: Colliwobblers on February 17, 2013, 03:07:43 PM
Quote from: JROO8 on February 17, 2013, 02:56:59 PM
Trading finishes in like 2 hours yeah?
If anyone wants to do any last minute trades I'm willing to trade any of these players
Ziebell
Knights
Higgins
Pearce
Griffen
Christensen
Yarran
Harbrow
Hartlett
Robinson
just pm me if you are working on a trade and dont quite get it done by 2pm i may be able to process it a little later
Nah it's fine, I'm happy for it to finally end.
Adam and I have got a trade done, I'll pm it to you now
No, don't do it! Adam is already decent enough.
Quote from: Nails on February 17, 2013, 03:36:14 PM
No, don't do it! Adam is already decent enough.
Too late :P
AS stated anyone working on trades who has PM me before two can still get them through tonight.
As SOME have done this and effectively have longer to trade, note that EVERYONE has until I officially announce the trade window as closed to conduct trades.
This will be sometime early tonight. Just to ensure everyone has the same amount of time to trade, even tho anyone trading was supposed to PM me trades before 2 today which some have.
I won't get them processed until sometime tonight so i don't want anyone thinking some people got longer than others.
so in summary EVERYONE has until i post the window is closed in this thread TONIGHT.
Very happy to announce a late trade between the Crabs and the Eskimos
l give Mzungu + Stevenson
Koop gives Polec + Motlop
.....both sides are very happy with this trade
We add some more quality youth to our team of young guns.
Koop gains 2 likely best 22 players.
.....Koop to confirm
Quote from: nostradamus on February 17, 2013, 08:29:28 PM
Very happy to announce a late trade between the Crabs and the Eskimos
l give Mzungu + Stevenson
Koop gives Polec + Motlop
.....both sides are very happy with this trade
We add some more quality youth to our team of young guns.
Koop gains 2 likely best 22 players.
.....Koop to confirm
Confirm
Quote from: Nails on February 17, 2013, 09:44:50 PM
Quote from: nostradamus on February 17, 2013, 08:29:28 PM
l give Mzungu + Stevenson
Who is team L? :-\
team L ::)
is this clear enough.........
The Crabs give Tendai Mzungu + Lewis Stevenson
The Eskimos give Jared Polec + Steven Motlop
You typed
"l give"
As in "L give"
not I give lol, hence me questioning who L is :o
Quote from: Memphistopheles on February 17, 2013, 08:58:39 PM
Quote from: nostradamus on February 17, 2013, 08:29:28 PM
Very happy to announce a late trade between the Crabs and the Eskimos
l give Mzungu + Stevenson
Koop gives Polec + Motlop
.....both sides are very happy with this trade
We add some more quality youth to our team of young guns.
Koop gains 2 likely best 22 players.
.....Koop to confirm
Confirm
APPROVED
need everyone's rookie listed 6 players ASAP please
trade window is nearing its final drawn out triple extended close too so get a move on if you are planning to get any further trades through.
Quote from: Nails on February 17, 2013, 10:31:32 PM
You typed
"l give"
As in "L give"
not I give lol, hence me questioning who L is :o
hmmmm :-X
Quote from: Adamant on February 17, 2013, 10:44:30 PM
Quote from: Colliwobblers on February 17, 2013, 10:44:00 PM
Quote from: JROO8 on February 17, 2013, 10:41:55 PM
Hey Colli, not sure if you got this before, but me and Adam have done a trade.
JROO8 gives Mitch Robinson
Adamant gives Dusty Martin
Adam to confirm
adamant can you confirm asap.
Confirmed.
APPROVED
Quote from: Colliwobblers on February 17, 2013, 10:33:26 PM
need everyone's rookie listed 6 players ASAP please
trade window is nearing its final drawn out triple extended close too so get a move on if you are planning to get any further trades through.
Going as fast as possible mate! :D
Quote from: Colliwobblers on February 17, 2013, 10:47:55 PM
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Quote from: Colliwobblers on February 17, 2013, 10:44:00 PM
Quote from: JROO8 on February 17, 2013, 10:41:55 PM
Hey Colli, not sure if you got this before, but me and Adam have done a trade.
JROO8 gives Mitch Robinson
Adamant gives Dusty Martin
Adam to confirm
adamant can you confirm asap.
Confirmed.
APPROVED
Dusty :-* :-* :-* :-* :-*
Quote from: JROO8 on February 17, 2013, 10:49:59 PM
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Quote from: Colliwobblers on February 17, 2013, 10:44:00 PM
Quote from: JROO8 on February 17, 2013, 10:41:55 PM
Hey Colli, not sure if you got this before, but me and Adam have done a trade.
JROO8 gives Mitch Robinson
Adamant gives Dusty Martin
Adam to confirm
adamant can you confirm asap.
Confirmed.
APPROVED
Dusty :-* :-* :-* :-* :-*
Robbo! He is finally at the Bears. >:D
Quote from: Adamant on February 17, 2013, 10:51:33 PM
Quote from: JROO8 on February 17, 2013, 10:49:59 PM
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Quote from: JROO8 on February 17, 2013, 10:41:55 PM
Hey Colli, not sure if you got this before, but me and Adam have done a trade.
JROO8 gives Mitch Robinson
Adamant gives Dusty Martin
Adam to confirm
adamant can you confirm asap.
Confirmed.
APPROVED
Dusty :-* :-* :-* :-* :-*
Robbo! He is finally at the Bears. >:D
you never offered me martin for him ::) i prefer Wright anyway so glad you didn't :)
Wow, the Bears get Robbo! I'm actually slightly worried now. :o
Quote from: Colliwobblers on February 17, 2013, 10:54:24 PM
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Quote from: Colliwobblers on February 17, 2013, 10:44:00 PM
Quote from: JROO8 on February 17, 2013, 10:41:55 PM
Hey Colli, not sure if you got this before, but me and Adam have done a trade.
JROO8 gives Mitch Robinson
Adamant gives Dusty Martin
Adam to confirm
adamant can you confirm asap.
Confirmed.
APPROVED
Dusty :-* :-* :-* :-* :-*
Robbo! He is finally at the Bears. >:D
you never offered me martin for him ::) i prefer Wright anyway so glad you didn't :)
I'm happy.
I started with Matty Wright + Dennis Amrfield and turned them into Dusty Martin and Stephen Hill :P
Quote from: NigeyS on February 17, 2013, 10:54:42 PM
Wow, the Bears get Robbo! I'm actually slightly worried now. :o
Slightly worried? you were never worried before. :o
Quote from: Adamant on February 17, 2013, 10:56:44 PM
Quote from: NigeyS on February 17, 2013, 10:54:42 PM
Wow, the Bears get Robbo! I'm actually slightly worried now. :o
Slightly worried? you were never worried before. :o
I just had a look at how the Bears' team for 2013 looks, it's actually a lot better than I first realised. :(
Quote from: NigeyS on February 17, 2013, 10:54:42 PM
Wow, the Bears get Robbo! I'm actually slightly worried now. :o
you honestly think robbo will outscore martin by enough to worry about? i don't think he gets as much mid time under Mick if gibbs is coming into the mids especially, unless carrots stops rotating through and judd plays fwd - can't see that happening...
anyway we will see, i think robbo martin and wright are all pretty much apples for apples just robbo is more established as a premium but also less room for improvement than the other two who have just really broken out.
time will tell,
and @ JROO8 in the end that is a slight upgrade over the two players if you ask me so yeah god job.
and @ NigeyS all preseason the Bears have been ranked 2nd and for a brief moment 1st, great team, bit light on for developing talent which may bring about a tough patch in a season or three like all the top teams but right now great team.
Unless Dustu does actually go bang, Wright will be the better scorer here
*waits for Nails to go on a rant about me losing the trade*
Yeah really like some of the top teams (mine included) but reckon there could be some retirements not far away which will leave is in a rough patch.
What happens with retirements? Do we get compensation based on their worth? ???
Quote from: Colliwobblers on February 17, 2013, 11:00:53 PM
Quote from: NigeyS on February 17, 2013, 10:54:42 PM
Wow, the Bears get Robbo! I'm actually slightly worried now. :o
you honestly think robbo will outscore martin by enough to worry about? i don't think he gets as much mid time under Mick if gibbs is coming into the mids especially, unless carrots stops rotating through and judd plays fwd - can't see that happening...
anyway we will see, i think robbo martin and wright are all pretty much apples for apples just robbo is more established as a premium but also less room for improvement than the other two who have just really broken out.
time will tell,
and @ JROO8 in the end that is a slight upgrade over the two players if you ask me so yeah god job.
and @ NigeyS all preseason the Bears have been ranked 2nd and for a brief moment 1st, great team, bit light on for developing talent which may bring about a tough patch in a season or three like all the top teams but right now great team.
Haha Colli, I hear ya. They are pretty even, I guess my reaction was more or less for the reason you stated in Robbo being more recognised as a premium, but you are definitely spot on. Even as a Tigers fan, I'm still a little concerned as to how Martin will go, but I'd love for him to go nuts and pull out some massive scores though.
Quote from: Colliwobblers on February 17, 2013, 11:00:53 PM
Quote from: NigeyS on February 17, 2013, 10:54:42 PM
Wow, the Bears get Robbo! I'm actually slightly worried now. :o
you honestly think robbo will outscore martin by enough to worry about? i don't think he gets as much mid time under Mick if gibbs is coming into the mids especially, unless carrots stops rotating through and judd plays fwd - can't see that happening...
anyway we will see, i think robbo martin and wright are all pretty much apples for apples just robbo is more established as a premium but also less room for improvement than the other two who have just really broken out.
time will tell,
and @ JROO8 in the end that is a slight upgrade over the two players if you ask me so yeah god job.
and @ NigeyS all preseason the Bears have been ranked 2nd and for a brief moment 1st, great team, bit light on for developing talent which may bring about a tough patch in a season or three like all the top teams but right now great team.
Pretty much my thoughts too Colli. I think Dusty will tear it up this year, but I had to bring in Robbo for safety.
I do however disagree with you saying that Robbo has no more room for improvement. After all, he is only 2 years older than Dusty.
He had a serious eye injury late in the year which affected his last 2 games. He also missed the 4 weeks prior due to the injury. Removing these games and his average shoots up about 5 points.
Mick doesn't generally tag, so Robbo shouldn't be finding himself getting jobs as often or at all. I think he'll increase his average by at least 5ppg.
Another factor in the straight swap was that Dusty is pretty much guaranteed to be a pure mid in the next 2 years, whereas Robbo should keep it for quite some time. Dusty's off field issues (rumours) are also pretty concerning...
Quote from: NigeyS on February 17, 2013, 10:58:14 PM
Quote from: Adamant on February 17, 2013, 10:56:44 PM
Quote from: NigeyS on February 17, 2013, 10:54:42 PM
Wow, the Bears get Robbo! I'm actually slightly worried now. :o
Slightly worried? you were never worried before. :o
I just had a look at how the Bears' team for 2013 looks, it's actually a lot better than I first realised. :(
Woah, woah, what is this? Am I actually seeing a Folders coach saying another team is a realistic threat to our premiership! :o
I'm disappointed Nigey, you have obviously failed to see that a Bear has no chance against the superior organisational skills that a Manila Folder provides one with.
Quote from: Adamant on February 17, 2013, 11:02:42 PM
*waits for Nails to go on a rant about me losing the trade*
Don't pick on Nails he never upsets anybody here, an outstanding member of the AXVS community, where would we be without Nails, he is a joy and a ray of happy sunshine in the thread at all times... :P
@ Toga, no you get NOTHING - just like an AFL club, that is why you SHOULD run a balanced list. When a player retires or is deisted you can only replace them with a player you draft in the national draft.
when you draft players in the national draft and none of your list has retired or been delisted - you need to delist players to make room on your list for the draft picks you CHOOSE to take. i.e if you have pick 120 you might not want to delist anyone to get the player you would pick at pick 120, or delist one anyway and promote a rookie off your rookie list instead.
@ Adamant, yeah robbo can improve a little on his current ability and yes his scoring was down last season due to
a) injury
b) dud coach and game plan)
c) some run with lock down roles which your right Mick doesn't roll that way the great man is a friend of fantasy football coaches :)
@ BB = Classic :)
Colli, trade period is closing soon?
I'm not asking for it to be extended :P
Quote from: JROO8 on February 17, 2013, 11:13:15 PM
Colli, trade period is closing soon?
soon someone in WA memph pm'ed me a trade on time i just need it confirmed and i will have it posted and approved and we are done, they are 2 hours behind so it could be an hour or two yet, i think the trade is still pending i am over trade window #2 :)
not too long but not yet...
Quote from: Colliwobblers on February 17, 2013, 11:15:20 PM
Quote from: JROO8 on February 17, 2013, 11:13:15 PM
Colli, trade period is closing soon?
soon someone in WA memph pm'ed me a trade on time i just need it confirmed and i will have it posted and approved and we are done, they are 2 hours behind so it could be an hour or two yet, i think the trade is still pending i am over trade window #2 :)
not too long but not yet...
I too am waiting on Memph...
Quote from: BB67th on February 17, 2013, 11:09:50 PM
Quote from: NigeyS on February 17, 2013, 10:58:14 PM
Quote from: Adamant on February 17, 2013, 10:56:44 PM
Quote from: NigeyS on February 17, 2013, 10:54:42 PM
Wow, the Bears get Robbo! I'm actually slightly worried now. :o
Slightly worried? you were never worried before. :o
I just had a look at how the Bears' team for 2013 looks, it's actually a lot better than I first realised. :(
Woah, woah, what is this? Am I actually seeing a Folders coach saying another team is a realistic threat to our premiership! :o
I'm disappointed Nigey, you have obviously failed to see that a Bear has no chance against the superior organisational skills that a Manila Folder provides one with.
Yes boss. Sorry boss. Please don't fire me boss. :'(
Haha gold Nigey ;D
Quote from: Toga on February 17, 2013, 11:47:07 PM
Haha gold Nigey ;D
I'll flee to Mongolia or Bangladesh if I get axed. ::)
Quote from: NigeyS on February 17, 2013, 11:51:46 PM
Quote from: Toga on February 17, 2013, 11:47:07 PM
Haha gold Nigey ;D
I'll flee to Mongolia or Bangladesh if I get axed. ::)
Well, well, well, conspiring with other clubs too! And he names 2 players that didn't even play in our pre-season side..... I may have to hire an integrity officer to follow you around and see what you are up too.... :P
Quote from: BB67th on February 18, 2013, 12:09:25 AM
Quote from: NigeyS on February 17, 2013, 11:51:46 PM
Quote from: Toga on February 17, 2013, 11:47:07 PM
Haha gold Nigey ;D
I'll flee to Mongolia or Bangladesh if I get axed. ::)
Well, well, well, conspiring with other clubs too! And he names 2 players that didn't even play in our pre-season side..... I may have to hire an integrity officer to follow you around and see what you are up too.... :P
:-[ I feel like my job security is decreasing rapidly. Ohai unemployment. :o
doesn't look like Memph is going to make the deadline.....
still waiting on rookie list from the following;
Nails
Noz
Jayman
Macca/Sid
Monstrom
Koop
Tbag
speaking of Macca, Sid and Monstrom - where are they ?
Watching Downton Abbey! ;D
Quote from: Colliwobblers on February 18, 2013, 01:02:25 AM
doesn't look like Memph is going to make the deadline.....
still waiting on rookie list from the following;
Nails
Noz
Jayman
Macca/Sid
Monstrom
Koop
Tbag
speaking of Macca, Sid and Monstrom - where are they ?
Sid hasn't been online in nearly a month.
Macca comes on randomly each day for a short period of time and goes off. Never replies to PMs.
Not sure about mons, but he's never that active. Mabye ask tabs (mons' assistant) to submit their rookie list?
Former front bar king Sid is losing his touch :P
Um Sorry Colli - what trade was that?
The one I pm-ed you about was the Stevenson+Mzungu for Motlop+Polec.
At least that's what I thought - did anyone else think we were getting a trade through for them?
Trade between us and the Bears broke down as did the one between us and the Tigers.
Or maybe I'm missing something?
thats all good mate i just remember you or Jay mentioning you had something you were working on.
in this case
THE AXVS TRADE WINDOW #2 IS NOW OFFICIALLY CLOSED
LISTS ARE FINALIZED AND POSTED HERE: http://www.fanfooty.com.au/forum/index.php/topic,70532.msg960394.html#msg960394
PLEASE SUBMIT YOUR 6 ROOKIE LISTED PLAYERS TO ME ASAP
Nails has voted.
the tally was
A -6
B - 1
C -6
this without me voting, i would have voted C.
Nails voted A
that would make it
A - 7
B - 1
C - 7
being that A and C are tied, I have to in fairness count B a vote for trading on A's tally.
This means the KL CROCODILES will have 4 list movements to use.
The KL CROCODILES, can trade with whoever they like. It does not matter who the other teams trade in or out.
NO OTHER TEAMS CAN TRADE BETWEEN THEMSELVES ONLY WITH THE KL CROCODILES.
The normal ist movement rules apply, so the KL CROCODILES can on trade players they traded in in trade periods 1 and 2 without that counting as a list movement.
Other teams are welcome to approach the KL CROCODILES with offers.
This "extra" damn it ! trade period will end on Sunday the 3rd of March at 6PM real time (QLD). No exceptions.
Trade thread will be unlocked for the duration.
Ricochet I suggest you review the trade thread on the first posts you will see the list of trades from both trade periods and can work out from there who you have already traded in/out over the 2 periods.
Thanks Coll.
Boys I'll look into it a bit more tomorrow but if your interested send any offers through ;)
But I discovered they don't have Crouch :-[
Quote from: Ricochet on February 22, 2013, 02:43:44 AM
Thanks Coll.
Boys I'll look into it a bit more tomorrow but if your interested send any offers through ;)
Give me some depth Rico!
Quote from: Adamant on February 22, 2013, 02:55:38 AM
Quote from: Ricochet on February 22, 2013, 02:43:44 AM
Thanks Coll.
Boys I'll look into it a bit more tomorrow but if your interested send any offers through ;)
Give me some depth Rico!
Ha well we traded you your depth when we gave two premo's for one with pick 2, and thankyou very much for Jimmy the Gun ;D
Quote from: tbagrocks on February 22, 2013, 02:58:02 AM
Quote from: Adamant on February 22, 2013, 02:55:38 AM
Quote from: Ricochet on February 22, 2013, 02:43:44 AM
Thanks Coll.
Boys I'll look into it a bit more tomorrow but if your interested send any offers through ;)
Give me some depth Rico!
Ha well we traded you your depth when we gave two premo's for one with pick 2, and thankyou very much for Jimmy the Gun ;D
Thanks for Dusty and Duffman. 8)
Ric the key to being a good coach is trading out your best players for another team's worst players
Then when the players you on traded get injured you'll look like a genius. Let me help you look like a genius.
Quote from: Nails on February 22, 2013, 03:04:50 AM
Ric the key to being a good coach is trading out your best players for another team's worst players
Then when the players you on traded get injured you'll look like a genius. Let me help you look like a genius.
Ahhh i see. I knew something wasn't right when we turned a bottom 4 team into a premiership contender in Euros. I'll have to chat to Ele about that so we can do it right next trade period :P
Quote from: Nails on February 22, 2013, 03:04:50 AM
Ric the key to being a good coach is trading out your best players for another team's worst players
Then when the players you on traded get injured you'll look like a genius. Let me help you look like a genius.
Shhh! Don't give away these secrets.
After the first 6 rounds and 100 picks Tibet had a very good and challanging team :o pretty sure the only player above 20 in the next 100 was GC start ruckman Zac Smith
People kept picking all my targets so I went for the gun kids :P stuck to this for the remainder of the drafts and trades, changed strategy completely, have now got the best young team (without question) in XV's, our midfield has only gun ball winners no potatos to be found ;) 8)
I'm sorry, but I don't like this. Some teams are going to be fortunate ::)
Quote from: whatlez on February 22, 2013, 11:42:12 AM
I'm sorry, but I don't like this. Some teams are going to be fortunate ::)
Boo hoo.
Ric has all the power and has good trading skills, only KL will win in any trades imo
Just to clarify Colli - are three way (club) deals allowed in this period?
Not that I have, or am thinking of, arranging any just curious.
Quote from: Memphistopheles on February 22, 2013, 02:50:24 PM
Just to clarify Colli - are three way (club) deals allowed in this period?
Not that I have, or am thinking of, arranging any just curious.
l highly doubt it, as it would entail trades between clubs other than KL
Quote from: whatlez on February 22, 2013, 11:42:12 AM
I'm sorry, but I don't like this. Some teams are going to be fortunate ::)
Get in and make sure it is you!!
I see your logic though.
@ Whatlez - yeah well thats unavoidable to give the team that had no trades in trade window 2 due to lack of activity the opportunity to trade they need someone to trade with, that someone can't be everyone.
as it is people like JB, You, Me, BB have made very few trades by our own choices, where as people like JROO have made too bloody many trades by his own choices.
so it is not like we all made the exact same number of trades anyway, and if you were worried it would disadvantage you to not trade as much as other teams, you had all trade period 2 to trade like JROO to keep up... but you didn't.
count the trades per team you will find it is already VERY UNEVEN and that is only by each of our individual choices.
@ Memphistopheles - three way trades, no we can achieve what we are desiring which is to give the CROCS only the chance to make some trades without involving 3 way trades. so we will not do three way trades.
@ JBsHawks - Ricochet will only get to make trades that favour him if people are silly enough or desperate enough to accept those trades. So he should get plenty :)
Fellas my team thread is up and running. Its not 100% finished yet, but team list is there if you want to make offers.
http://www.fanfooty.com.au/forum/index.php/topic,72574.0.html
Quote from: Ricochet on February 23, 2013, 02:44:02 AM
Fellas my team thread is up and running. Its not 100% finished yet, but team list is there if you want to make offers.
http://www.fanfooty.com.au/forum/index.php/topic,72574.0.html
Wow Ric, did you do all that yourself? looks awesome! 8)
Ric doesnt work at his work so he spent the day on it haha ;D
Quote from: elephants on February 23, 2013, 03:05:42 AM
Ric doesnt work at his work so he spent the day on it haha ;D
haha there's a difference between working and pretending to work
Quote from: Ricochet on February 23, 2013, 02:44:02 AM
Fellas my team thread is up and running. Its not 100% finished yet, but team list is there if you want to make offers.
http://www.fanfooty.com.au/forum/index.php/topic,72574.0.html
quality, any club without cheerleaders should be sacked :) nice work on the thread.
Quote from: Colliwobblers on February 23, 2013, 12:26:04 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on February 23, 2013, 02:44:02 AM
Fellas my team thread is up and running. Its not 100% finished yet, but team list is there if you want to make offers.
http://www.fanfooty.com.au/forum/index.php/topic,72574.0.html
quality, any club without cheerleaders should be sacked :) nice work on the thread.
Oregon.. oops i mean Crocs do produce quality cheerleaders
Had a pretty hectic wkend fellas and inbox is littered with DT Elite pms's so apologies if i didn't get back to on offers. Might have to resend them because i can't find them all :)
oh and noone is off limits ;)
That's what we like to hear Ric :D
Check out Taiwan's cheerleaders!! :-*
Quote from: tor01doc on February 25, 2013, 09:59:59 PM
Check out Taiwan's cheerleaders!! :-*
the best cheerleaders? and the best jokes !
haven't read your thread in awhile.... laughed out loud which was refreshing.
Wellingham is a SPUD, pretty little hair flicking spud, all those with the high expectations of him will be sorely disappointed.
Lol you took the deal.
I got offered those 3 for Redden, Selwood and Nicholson. I spose he gave away less lol.
I swear people just trade for the sake of it ::)
Cotchin sucks
Where did the trade go?
Quote from: whatlez on March 03, 2013, 11:36:38 PM
Where did the trade go?
psyched out? peer pressure? or a better offer?
it wasn't confirmed so it never existed i suppose :)
Well Masten (top score against Collingwood) and Blair (did well against West Coast) for 2 spuds. You can see why they were keen lol.
Quote from: Colliwobblers on March 03, 2013, 11:38:54 PM
Quote from: whatlez on March 03, 2013, 11:36:38 PM
Where did the trade go?
psyched out? peer pressure? or a better offer?
it wasn't confirmed so it never existed i suppose :)
Apparently the trade deadline was extended?
Is this right Colli?
An official announcement would be good if true...
Quote from: JBs-Hawks on March 03, 2013, 08:59:39 PM
I swear people just trade for the sake of it ::)
We have our reasons dude ::) Don't like it? Don't post.
1. @ Whatlez- yes that trade was shower, no it was not quite so bad it gave unfair advantage to the team who won the trade _JUST
But i will be stricter next season as this was obviously widely accepted as being too far. too uneven - done now !
2. @ ele re JB - think JB wasn't being nasty - just think he might have seen the trade as so even it was pointless? :) either way seems pretty even to me ? doesn't it?
3. THE TRADE WINDOW FOR THE NEW TEAM OWNER HAS OFFICIALLY BEEN EXTENDED UNTIL NEXT SUNDAY. THE TRADE PERIOD WAS GIVEN TO THEM TO GET TRADES DONE, THEY HAVE NOT MANAGED TO DO SO, SO I EXTENDED IT FOR THEM. AFTER ALL THE REST OF US HAD A LOT LONGER THAN ONE WEEK TO TRADE. THEY HAVE ONE MORE FULL WEEK.
Alright, no probs. Trades aren't pointless though just because they're even in your eyes.
People rate players differently ;)
Quote from: elephants on March 04, 2013, 12:07:12 AM
Alright, no probs. Trades aren't pointless though just because they're even in your eyes.
People rate players differently ;)
the trade whatlez was refering to by the way was not yours it was an infamous trade involving Blair and Masten....
and I shouldn't speak for JB i am not sure what he meant :)
anyway keep calm and lock swan
Quote from: Colliwobblers on March 04, 2013, 12:10:03 AM
Quote from: elephants on March 04, 2013, 12:07:12 AM
Alright, no probs. Trades aren't pointless though just because they're even in your eyes.
People rate players differently ;)
the trade whatlez was refering to by the way was not yours it was an infamous trade involving Blair and Masten....
and I shouldn't speak for JB i am not sure what he meant :)
anyway keep calm and lock swan
Ironic enough, Jb came out of that trade cheering.
Do you know what makes the great Oz jealous?
The great AXV banter :o ;D
Keep it up guys ;)
yes we have the best characters on FF, sadly one of the best we just lost but we gain a good one in his place i feel.
Still not happy having lost the Doc.
Quote from: Colliwobblers on March 04, 2013, 12:00:36 AM
2. @ ele re JB - think JB wasn't being nasty - just think he might have seen the trade as so even it was pointless? :) either way seems pretty even to me ? doesn't it?
Spot on Collie, wasnt being nasty just thought the players being traded were so like for like that it was pretty much pointless lol
ok first trade with myself and Colli
Crocodiles Give: Lecras
Vipers Give: Parker
We really need mid depth at KL and with Lecras being one of the oldest on our list, we are happy to move him on for young gun mid.
Quote from: JBs-Hawks on March 04, 2013, 01:21:52 AM
Quote from: Colliwobblers on March 04, 2013, 12:00:36 AM
2. @ ele re JB - think JB wasn't being nasty - just think he might have seen the trade as so even it was pointless? :) either way seems pretty even to me ? doesn't it?
Spot on Collie, wasnt being nasty just thought the players being traded were so like for like that it was pretty much pointless lol
Haha all good dude 8)
Quote from: Ricochet on March 05, 2013, 02:35:00 AM
ok first trade with myself and Colli
Crocodiles Give: Lecras
Vipers Give: Parker
We really need mid depth at KL and with Lecras being one of the oldest on our list, we are happy to move him on for young gun mid.
Wow I would have thought our offer for LeCras was better than that :o
You guys must rate parker :P
Parker for fyfe next euros trade period? ;)
Quote from: JBs-Hawks on March 05, 2013, 09:17:13 AM
You guys must rate parker :P
Parker for fyfe next euros trade period? ;)
Haha lock it in. Parker is a gun, just had a very very interrupted year.
Fractured his jaw RD1 and was subbed. Was expected to miss 2-3 weeks and then came up the very next week for Freo but only scored 81. He then averaged 112 over then next 4 games to RD6 with scores of 109, 133, 86, 122. Then in RD7 he received a cork to the knee and was subbed out just after half time for 62. The next week he pumped out a 139. He had a quiet game the following week and then had his collarbone pinned after breaking it in RD10, missed up until RD18.
Was a tough year to gauge with so many unlucky injuries... Broken jaw, then a cork, then a collarbone. Outside that his numbers are very impressive.
Sydney have too many similar. E.g Hanners, K.Jack, other Jack, Bird. Dont rate Parker.
And is Lecras really your oldest?
Quote from: whatlez on March 05, 2013, 01:20:57 PM
Sydney have too many similar. E.g Hanners, K.Jack, other Jack, Bird. Dont rate Parker.
And is Lecras really your oldest?
27 this year, 29-30 when we would need him. Others like Johncock and Kosi are older.
Actually on that... Johncocks for sale. Averaged 90 unsubbed this year, quality forward cover. Will take any youth
Quote from: Ricochet on March 05, 2013, 01:27:10 PM
Quote from: whatlez on March 05, 2013, 01:20:57 PM
Sydney have too many similar. E.g Hanners, K.Jack, other Jack, Bird. Dont rate Parker.
And is Lecras really your oldest?
27 this year, 29-30 when we would need him. Others like Johncock and Kosi are older.
Actually on that... Johncocks for sale. Averaged 90 unsubbed this year, quality forward cover. Will take any youth
Hey mate,
Sorting out the new Dolphins team thread now but if you want to examine our youngsters and let me know then there's a possibility of a deal.
A couple more good players and we could be challenging for a top 4 spot/the premiership.
Let me know.
Quote from: whatlez on March 05, 2013, 01:20:57 PM
Sydney have too many similar. E.g Hanners, K.Jack, other Jack, Bird. Dont rate Parker.
And is Lecras really your oldest?
Silly mate - Parker = Breakout
Yeah I rate Parker he is Boltons replacement. Will breakout with full games all season BUT I traded out Johnson due to his age and Lecras is that few years younger and by the time my team is contending lecca will still be 28-29
as for parker, sad to see him go but i have these youngsters - too many.
Dayne Beams*
Shaun Grigg*
Chris Judd - OLD
Luke Parker - GONE
Rhys Palmer
Sam Blease*
Anthony Miles*
Dom Tyson*
Jonathan O'Rourke*
Jake Melksham
Cale Morton
Kane Lucas*
Paul Seedsman*
Bradley Hill*
Tim McGenniss
Matt Jones*
Martin Gleeson
so yeah a bit spoilt for young talented high draft pick mid talent, just need 4 or 5 to step up over the next 2 seasons.
You and me both brother
Quote from: Ricochet on March 05, 2013, 02:35:00 AM
ok first trade with myself and Colli
Crocodiles Give: Lecras
Vipers Give: Parker
We really need mid depth at KL and with Lecras being one of the oldest on our list, we are happy to move him on for young gun mid.
Confirmed
APPROVEDTeam lists and ratingson team thread adjusted and trade thread updated.
You have 5 more days Ricochet
Quote from: Colliwobblers on March 05, 2013, 09:06:23 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on March 05, 2013, 02:35:00 AM
ok first trade with myself and Colli
Crocodiles Give: Lecras
Vipers Give: Parker
We really need mid depth at KL and with Lecras being one of the oldest on our list, we are happy to move him on for young gun mid.
Confirmed
APPROVED
Team lists and ratingson team thread adjusted and trade thread updated.
You have 5 more days Ricochet
Damn you Colli :P
Would love to have had LeCras at the Dolphins. Our forward line could do with a boost.
Great pick up. Think you win this trade IMO. Parker is good but goals are worth 12 in this game and LeCras has shown he can kick bags.
Parker will be a premium mid in a season or two guaranteed but my hope is Lecca gets back to rotating through the midfield and still gets his 2 goals a game that is the best that can be hoped from him still nowhere near the best forwards in this comp even at his best he wasn't close.
but i am happy with him suits my structure but when Parker = Dangerfield / Cotchin I will have regrets to be sure...
Quote from: Colliwobblers on March 05, 2013, 09:16:42 PM
Parker will be a premium mid in a season or two guaranteed but my hope is Lecca gets back to rotating through the midfield and still gets his 2 goals a game that is the best that can be hoped from him still nowhere near the best forwards in this comp even at his best he wasn't close.
but i am happy with him suits my structure but when Parker = Dangerfield / Cotchin I will have regrets to be sure...
Yeah that won't be happening, well maybe he'll be better than Cotchin but so could a blind goat
Funny that legit Brownlow medalist Trent Cotchin sucks.
Quote from: whatlez on March 05, 2013, 10:29:37 PM
Funny that legit Brownlow medalist Trent Cotchin sucks.
how is he a legit brownlow medallist? :o
Quote from: Jayman on March 05, 2013, 10:31:11 PM
Quote from: whatlez on March 05, 2013, 10:29:37 PM
Funny that legitsoon-to-be Brownlow medalist Trent Cotchin sucks.
how is he a legit brownlow medallist? :o
Not quite yet ;)
Quote from: Jayman on March 05, 2013, 10:31:11 PM
Quote from: whatlez on March 05, 2013, 10:29:37 PM
Funny that legit Brownlow medalist Trent Cotchin sucks.
how is he a legit brownlow medallist? :o
Watson's on cannibus
Cotch doesn't suck. Come on tbag ::)
Oh and to those that say we lost... 200x2=400. That is all ;)
Ok trade with me and Koop
Pendles + Dahlhaus + Cripps for Cotchin + Jetta + May
Quote from: Ricochet on March 06, 2013, 11:05:06 PM
Ok trade with me and Koop
Pendles + Dahlhaus + Cripps for Cotchin + Jetta + May
So it's basically the same as last trade. flower if KK had Cotchin during the tree period. It would of been realistic to get him :(
Quote from: whatlez on March 06, 2013, 11:11:35 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on March 06, 2013, 11:05:06 PM
Ok trade with me and Koop
Pendles + Dahlhaus + Cripps for Cotchin + Jetta + May
So it's basically the same as last trade. flower if KK had Cotchin during the tree period. It would of been realistic to get him :(
Yea it is. I was away when it was posted last time
Quote from: whatlez on March 06, 2013, 11:11:35 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on March 06, 2013, 11:05:06 PM
Ok trade with me and Koop
Pendles + Dahlhaus + Cripps for Cotchin + Jetta + May
So it's basically the same as last trade. flower if KK had Cotchin during the tree period. It would of been realistic to get him :(
yeah but pendles is a significant payment for him, not like he has given him away, i'd take pendles any day but cotchin is younger and may have the spikes in scoring that pendles doesn't often have.
but i doubt he will be as consistent as pendles, no ne really is.
looks a fair and even trade, thats that tho 3+1 list movements = 4 game over. I did say 4 didn't I?
I will approve this and update lists and all that tomorrow night too busy now :)
Nice win for the team getting Pendles.
May and Lecca free list movements, no?
Quote from: elephants on March 06, 2013, 11:57:43 PM
May and Lecca free list movements, no?
Oh yeah anyone you have ontraded ( not on your original drafted pre both trade period list ) does not count as a list movement.
likewise if you manage to trade a player back in to your side that was originally drafted then traded out that actually counts an giving you a list movement back.
certain wiley asians coaches figured this out during trade period 2 :)
Yeah cool so I'm fairly sure we have two to spend still :)
Awesome get with Pendles there Ric! reckon you have won massively there. I rate Pendles as close to most valuable in the comp.
Cotch is a jet, but he's only had one season of premium scoring. He could continue to smash it or mabye drop a few points. Either way, he's a risk.
Funny that it hasn't been confirmed from KK yet lol.
I would laugh if he rejects...
Cotchin will win Brownlow this year, Pendles won't, how is Pendles better?
Pendles might be marginally up atm, But Sir Trent will pass him and retire with 5 brownlows and 155 DT ave.
If pendles was in the Richmond midfield and cotch in the magpie midfield id go to the tab right now and put $100 on pendles
Sir Trent moved out to 11$. Get on now
Pendles >> Cotch.
We haven't seen thr best of Pendles yet, quote me on it.
I recon we haven't seen the best of John Patton
Quote from: tbagrocks on March 07, 2013, 12:57:16 PM
I recon we haven't seen the best of John Patton
No way ??? ::)
We haven't seen the best of Jack Martin
Quote from: Ricochet on March 06, 2013, 11:05:06 PM
Ok trade with me and Koop
Pendles + Dahlhaus + Cripps for Cotchin + Jetta + May
confirm
Quote from: KoopKicka on March 07, 2013, 02:24:03 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on March 06, 2013, 11:05:06 PM
Ok trade with me and Koop
Pendles + Dahlhaus + Cripps for Cotchin + Jetta + May
confirm
APPROVEDBut please post it as
Coach Gives: ... + .... + ...
Coach Gives .... + .... + ....
thanks :)
Quote from: Colliwobblers on March 07, 2013, 07:20:50 PM
Quote from: KoopKicka on March 07, 2013, 02:24:03 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on March 06, 2013, 11:05:06 PM
Ok trade with me and Koop
Pendles + Dahlhaus + Cripps for Cotchin + Jetta + May
confirm
APPROVED
But please post it as
Coach Gives: ... + .... + ...
Coach Gives .... + .... + ....
thanks :)
Ah sorry, here you go.
Koop Gives: Pendles + Dahlhaus + Cripps
Rico Gives: Cotchin + Lew.Jetta + May
Trade between Dolphins and Crocs.
Crocs Give: Eddie Betts
Dolphins Give: Shane Savage
Lets hope Memph gets here in time to confirm...
Ahhhh, damn.
Quote from: elephants on March 10, 2013, 07:53:21 PM
Trade between Dolphins and Crocs.
Crocs Give: Eddie Betts
Dolphins Give: Shane Savage
Lets hope Memph gets here in time to confirm...
if he confirms this in the next day or so i will put it through.
otherwise your trade window is closed.i will update team lists with this last trade if he confirms it and we are all set for the start of the season..
Memph is confirming now (he's just on his phone).
Cheers Colli.
Quote from: elephants on March 10, 2013, 07:53:21 PM
Trade between Dolphins and Crocs.
Crocs Give: Eddie Betts
Dolphins Give: Shane Savage
Lets hope Memph gets here in time to confirm...
Confirm.
Quote from: Memphistopheles on March 10, 2013, 08:55:17 PM
Quote from: elephants on March 10, 2013, 07:53:21 PM
Trade between Dolphins and Crocs.
Crocs Give: Eddie Betts
Dolphins Give: Shane Savage
Lets hope Memph gets here in time to confirm...
Confirm.
APPROVED
Quote from: Colliwobblers on March 10, 2013, 08:57:19 PM
Quote from: Memphistopheles on March 10, 2013, 08:55:17 PM
Quote from: elephants on March 10, 2013, 07:53:21 PM
Trade between Dolphins and Crocs.
Crocs Give: Eddie Betts
Dolphins Give: Shane Savage
Lets hope Memph gets here in time to confirm...
Confirm.
APPROVED
Excellent. Pleased with this one as our forward depth was very poor. Betts is consistant and should play every week plushe is a good goalkicker.
Also Savage was going 2 be on the bench for us as I rate Lower above him. Also while he has a huge ceiling (150+) I think Hill and Anderson may threaten his spot this season.
Savage's spot is very safe lol.
Quote from: JBs-Hawks on March 11, 2013, 12:04:06 AM
Savage's spot is very safe lol.
He's looked very ordinary this pre-season and Anderson and Hill impressed me a lot against Richmond. If I was Clarko I wouldn't be starting him over those two.
he will take whitecrosses role, anderson/hill are fighting for youngs role. the whole hawks team has looked average :P
Quote from: JBs-Hawks on March 11, 2013, 01:07:26 AM
he will take whitecrosses role, anderson/hill are fighting for youngs role. the whole hawks team has looked average :P
They have for a while ;) ;D
that must be why they are flag favourites and beat the cows in the prelim last year ::)
I believe the crows were tanking for draft picks ;)
Suckers out also leaves a bit of a gap on half-back/wing :)
Lake takes the spot (sort of with a bit of a shuffle lol)
Quote from: JBs-Hawks on March 11, 2013, 01:41:10 AM
Lake takes the spot (sort of with a bit of a shuffle lol)
Ahh alright, too easy
TRADE WINDOWS CLOSED - ALL OF THEM - DONE - DUSTED - NO MORE !
Don't lock it!!haha