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Title: Welcome to Domestic Sixes (D6s)/General discussion thread
Post by: PowerBug on January 28, 2015, 11:14:13 PM
Welcome to the home thread for Domestic Sixes, a brand new cricket fantasy game in which 8 teams and their managers will use their squads of Australian domestic players to try and win three trophies; the 4 Day Shield, the OneDay Cup, and the Twenty20 Trophy.

The coaches are the following, and next to their names will be the team they are in charge of:
PowerBug- Admin
Jayman - ACT Cockatoos
BratPack - Northern Territory Kangaroos
R. Griffen - Tasmania Devils
Nige and PkBaldy - Victoria Possums
nrich- Queensland Koalas
Torpedo10 - West Australia Swans
Scrads - New South Wales Platypuses
Koop (fanTCfool assistant) - South Australia Wombats

If you wish to join a team please contact the relevant manager.


- The Australian domestic summer has 3 competitions, the Sheffield Shield, the Matador Cup, and the Twenty20 Big Bash.
- The Sheffield Shield is a 4 Day competition which spans the majority of the Australian summer.
- The Australian summer begins with the Matador One Day Cup held in the space of a few weeks in October.
- The T20 BigBash runs in the middle of the summer, through December and January
- The fixtures to the 2016/17 season can be found by clicking this link (http://forum.fanfooty.com.au/index.php/topic,107906.0.html)
- Domestic 6s competition will have it's own competition for each of these three leagues

Everything regarding how D6s is run can be found in Rules and FAQs thread

PowerBug
D6s Organiser
Title: Re: Welcome to Domestic Sixes (D6s)
Post by: PowerBug on March 01, 2015, 10:04:44 PM
South Australian Wombats
Full time contracts: {20}
Cameron White   B
Ed Cowan   B
Shaun Marsh   B
Jordan Silk   B
George Bailey   B
Kelvin Smith   B
Alex Doolan   B
Tom Beaton   B
Jason Sangha   B
Chris Hartley   W
Ben McDermott   W
John Hastings   A
Jack Wildermuth   A
Arjun Nair   A
Peter Siddle   F
Chadd Sayers   F
Nathan Lyon   F
Gary Putland   F
Mitch Swepson   F
Gurinder Sandhu   F


New South Wales Platypuses
Full time contracts: {19}
Callum Ferguson   B
Kurtis Patterson   B
Jonathon Wells   B
Chris Lynn   B
Jake Lehmann   B
Matt Renshaw   B
Jake Doran   B
Alex Carey   B
Sam Raphael   B
Brad Haddin   W
Ashton Agar   A
Shane Watson   A
Stephen O'Keefe   A
Adam Zampa   A/F
David Moody   F
Doug Bollinger   F
Gabe Bell   F
Nathan Coulter-Nile   F
Will Somerville   F


Queensland Koalas
Full time contracts: {15}
Joe Burns   B
Nathan Reardon   B
Ben Rohrer   B
Sam Heazlett   B
Travis Head   B/A
Will Bosisto   B/A
Sam Whiteman   W
Seb Gotch   W
James Faulkner   A
Simon Milenko   A
Peter George   F
Joel Paris   F
Mark Steketee   F
Cameron Boyce   F
Michael Cormack   F


Victoria Possums
Full time contracts: {20}
Michael Klinger   B
Beau Webster   B
Jake Weatherald   B
Travis Dean   B
Caleb Jewell   B
Peter Handscomb   B/W
Jimmy Pierson   W
Sam Harper   W
Ashton Turner   B/A
Dan Christian   A
Michael Stoinis   A
Michael Neser   A
Joe Mennie   A/F
Michael Beer   F
Jyhe Richardson   F
Josh Lalor   F
Hamish Kingston   F
Billy Stanlake   F
Chris Tremain   F
Nick Benton   F


Northern Territory Kangaroos
Full time contracts: {20}
Cameron Bancroft   B/W
Aaron Finch   B
Rob Quiney   B
Peter Forrest   B
Dominic Michael   B
Matthew Wade   W
Ryan Carters   W
Glenn Maxwell   A
Sean Abbott   A
Ben Dwarshius   A
Hilton Cartwright   A
Alex Gregory   A
Trent Copeland   A
Jason Behrendorff   F
Simon Mackin   F
Fawad Ahmed   F
Luke Feldman   F
Ryan Lees   F
Clint McKay   F
Mitch Johnson   F


Australian Capital Territory Cockatoos
Full time contracts: {19}
Adam Voges   B
Alex Ross   B
Joe Rogers   B
Marcus Harris   B
Nick Larkin   B
Nick Stevens   B
Steve Smith   B
Peter Nevill   W
Tim Paine   W
Tom Triffit   W
Evan Gulbis   A
James Hopes   A
Andrew Fekete   F
Andrew Tye   F
Jon Holland   F
Nathan Rimmington   F
Sam Rainbird   F
Scott Boland   F
Xavier Doherty   F

Tasmania Devils
Full time contracts: {20}
Tom Cooper   B
Usman Khawaja   B
David Hussey   B
Daniel Hughes   B
David Warner   B
Moises Henriques   A
Ben Cutting   A
Jason Floros   A
Matt Short   A
Ian Holland   A
Aaron Ayre   W
Jay Lenton   W
Jackson Bird   F
Ben Hilfenhaus   F
Alastair McDermott   F
Kane Richardson   F
Ryan Duffield   F
Cameron Gannon   F
Jake Reed   F
Dan Worrall   F

West Australia Swans
Full time contracts: {18}
Nic Maddinson   B
Marnus Labuschagne   B
Charlie Hemphrey    B
Ben Dunk   B
Scott Henry   B
Tim Ludeman   W
Harry Nielsen   W
Mitchell Marsh   A
Chris Green   A
James Pattinson   F
Patrick Cummins   F
Mitchell Starc   F
James Muirhead   F
Josh Hazlewood   F
Cameron Valente   F
Tom Andrews   F
Harry Conway   F
Joch Nicholas   F
Title: Re: Welcome to Domestic Sixes (D6s)
Post by: Nige on March 01, 2015, 11:43:08 PM
Change the NT colour, you can barely read it.
Title: Re: Welcome to Domestic Sixes (D6s)
Post by: Pkbaldy on March 02, 2015, 09:39:19 AM
Quote from: Nige on March 01, 2015, 11:43:08 PM
Change the NT colour, you can barely read it.

What are you talking about? It's Blue? easy to read.
Title: Re: Welcome to Domestic Sixes (D6s)
Post by: PowerBug on March 02, 2015, 09:29:29 PM
Ok, all team lists should be updated in this thread, if you see any mistakes with prices, notify me and we can double check.
Title: Re: Welcome to Domestic Sixes (D6s)
Post by: Nige on March 03, 2015, 10:51:41 PM
We're still missing Turner on your list in the OP, PB.

Apart from that, it's all good.  :)
Title: Re: Welcome to Domestic Sixes (D6s)
Post by: PowerBug on July 24, 2015, 02:04:42 PM
Ok I have double checked the team lists with my excel spreadsheet which had a backup of the lists and everything looks correct now :)
Title: Re: Welcome to Domestic Sixes (D6s)
Post by: R.Griffen on July 24, 2015, 03:50:09 PM
Quote from: PowerBug on July 24, 2015, 02:04:42 PM
Ok I have double checked the team lists with my excel spreadsheet which had a backup of the lists and everything looks correct now :)

Dave Hussey retired I think wanna check some of them
Title: Re: Welcome to Domestic Sixes (D6s)
Post by: PowerBug on July 24, 2015, 07:06:03 PM
Quote from: R.Griffen on July 24, 2015, 03:50:09 PM
Quote from: PowerBug on July 24, 2015, 02:04:42 PM
Ok I have double checked the team lists with my excel spreadsheet which had a backup of the lists and everything looks correct now :)

Dave Hussey retired I think wanna check some of them
I'm not looking into retirements. It will be up to managers to de-list their players. A de-listing thread will be up in the coming weeks.
Title: Re: Welcome to Domestic Sixes (D6s)/General discussion thread
Post by: PowerBug on October 03, 2015, 12:37:37 PM
Final full time contracts for season 1.

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Title: Re: Welcome to Domestic Sixes (D6s)/General discussion thread
Post by: BB67th on October 03, 2015, 08:31:17 PM
Quote from: PowerBug on October 03, 2015, 12:37:37 PM
Final full time contracts for season 1.

(http://i57.tinypic.com/120oz87.jpg)
http://i57.tinypic.com/120oz87.jpg
Queensland has de-listed Trent Lawford.
Title: Re: Welcome to Domestic Sixes (D6s)/General discussion thread
Post by: PowerBug on October 03, 2015, 09:49:22 PM
Fixed :)
Title: Re: Welcome to Domestic Sixes (D6s)/General discussion thread
Post by: Nige on October 04, 2015, 08:20:55 AM
Vic delisted Haberfield
Title: Re: Welcome to Domestic Sixes (D6s)/General discussion thread
Post by: PowerBug on October 04, 2015, 11:20:02 PM
Got an obvious error on the ACT Cockatoos list. Xavier Doherty is a bowler (F), not a batsman (B).
Title: Re: Welcome to Domestic Sixes (D6s)/General discussion thread
Post by: PowerBug on December 16, 2015, 12:47:47 PM
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http://i67.tinypic.com/33e0bgo.jpg
Title: Re: Welcome to Domestic Sixes (D6s)/General discussion thread
Post by: PowerBug on December 18, 2015, 12:58:36 AM
Alright the 2nd post in this thread is fully updated with the info you can see in the image above. If anyone has any positions they want changed just say so at any time then we can look into doing something about it :)
Title: Re: Welcome to Domestic Sixes (D6s)/General discussion thread
Post by: PowerBug on December 24, 2015, 12:22:18 AM
After (not so) extensive discussion, it has been decided by the D6s board of management (Which is just me, really :P) that the position of manager at SA Wombats will no longer be held by JBs-Hawks. Reason for the termination is general inactivty and neglect of team.

From now to the end of the season I will be taking over the position as manager. The position will be discussed come the end of the season. The rest of you were messaged about this and no one voiced any major concerns to this being the case. There will be more input required from the other 7 managers regarding league decisions now, to make sure that overall we are all happy (or at least content) with the decisions made.
Title: Re: Welcome to Domestic Sixes (D6s)/General discussion thread
Post by: PowerBug on December 29, 2015, 06:55:25 PM
Things to discuss during off season (Or before, if people are keen):
- Squad sizes (Possible cap change) and squad makeup (E.g. is it okay if team A was to own 5 keepers or Team B to own 15 Batsmen)
- Player Poaching (as was discussed Pre-Season 1, but now we'll have some numbers to look at)
- Performance reviews for managers (Having a proper warning system in place)
- Ability to keep the same T20 Contract players without going through the auction (Like how the BBL clubs generally keep the same Internationals each season, they don't go onto an open market)
- Naming of players for T20 Trophy (Change makeup, change number)
- Home Ground Advantage for T20 Trophy (I think it's too small currently)
- Scoring systems for OD Cup and FC Shield (General inquires)
- Re-naming of franchises for T20 Trophy (Cosmetic change)
- Possible sub rule?

They are listed in order of importance according to me. Feel free to discuss now if you want. Also note that anything that changes will begin from next season. E.g if the T20 player retention comes in next season all player swill be on an open market still, then from S3 the option will be available.
Title: Re: Welcome to Domestic Sixes (D6s)/General discussion thread
Post by: PowerBug on January 26, 2016, 03:59:41 PM
So with 2/3 competitions completed, here is the overall club standings, which in the end will determine the best performing team for the season.

   OD   T20   Total
NT   5   10   15
QLD   10   4   14
VIC   4   8   12
ACT   8   4   12
TAS   3   6   9
WA   6   1   7
NSW   2   2   4
SA   1   3   4

NT have the lead, QLD, VIC, ACT very close behind. Just for reference here is where we sit if we include the FC shield current standings:

   OD   T20   FC   Total
VIC   4   8   8   20
QLD   10   4   5   19
NT   5   10   3   18
ACT   8   4   6   18
NSW   2   2   10   14
WA   6   1   4   11
TAS   3   6   1   10
SA   1   3   2   6

It's very tight for the run to the finish. With two rounds left in the shield and only 1 match seperating 8th and 4th, this can change around heaps still.
Title: Re: Welcome to Domestic Sixes (D6s)/General discussion thread
Post by: nrich102 on January 31, 2016, 03:40:01 PM
NSW will be happy that Clarke will be making a comeback  :P
Title: Re: Welcome to Domestic Sixes (D6s)/General discussion thread
Post by: PowerBug on January 31, 2016, 08:52:10 PM
Quote from: nrich102 on January 31, 2016, 03:40:01 PM
NSW will be happy that Clarke will be making a comeback  :P
It's nothing more than BBL though. Not sure how this is news because this was always his plan to play cricket, it just won't be for Australia.
Title: Re: Welcome to Domestic Sixes (D6s)/General discussion thread
Post by: nrich102 on January 31, 2016, 10:01:18 PM
Don't think he ruled out playing first class, idk tho.
Title: Re: Welcome to Domestic Sixes (D6s)/General discussion thread
Post by: Pkbaldy on February 05, 2016, 08:31:35 PM
Things to discuss during off season (Or before, if people are keen):
- Squad sizes 16-18 and squad makeup Yes, as long as it won't go overboard
- Player Poaching If coaches didn't name players 50% of the time they played in a shield match they can be brought off that team for the price they paid for them. EG, Possums only played Tremain 3 times yet played 7 matches. Can be poached via reverse ladder waiver.
- Performance reviews for managers Yes, but nothing too bad. Lack of viable choices for coaches as is.
- Ability to keep the same T20 Contract players without going through the auction Nope, new set of players for every team, makes it more fun
- Naming of players for T20 Trophy Fine as is imo
- Home Ground Advantage for T20 Trophy Prefer if there was 0
- Scoring systems for OD Cup and FC Shield Perfectly fine
- Re-naming of franchises for T20 Trophy Most definitely, but naming each team to a rural/inland town of that state E.G Bendigo Storm (VIC) or Dubbo Miners (NSW)
- Possible sub rule? Yes, just in case a player is removed from a Shield game to play for Australia, the next EMG should come on for that player (Coach can decide weather to bring EMG on or use the half game player but in a certain time frame.
Title: Re: Welcome to Domestic Sixes (D6s)/General discussion thread
Post by: nrich102 on February 06, 2016, 11:56:35 PM
Things to discuss during off season (Or before, if people are keen):
- Squad sizes (Possible cap change) and squad makeup (E.g. is it okay if team A was to own 5 keepers or Team B to own 15 Batsmen) I don't think we need too many restrictions. Maybe a cap at 20 players and a minimum of 15 or something. Don't think theres much need to control positions.
- Player Poaching (as was discussed Pre-Season 1, but now we'll have some numbers to look at) Like what PK said there, should be resstricted to only one or 2 per team tho.
- Performance reviews for managers (Having a proper warning system in place) What PK said again. With limited interest we can't really do too much in terms of sacking people, but I'm sure there's one or 2 people who want to get involved.
- Ability to keep the same T20 Contract players without going through the auction (Like how the BBL clubs generally keep the same Internationals each season, they don't go onto an open market) I think the option to keep one t20 player season to season would work. Would have to have to have a fee attached tho of course.
- Naming of players for T20 Trophy (Change makeup, change number) I find it a bit wierd naming 8 players in a 6 player comp, but I don't see any reason other than that to change.
- Home Ground Advantage for T20 Trophy (I think it's too small currently) I don't really mind tbh
- Scoring systems for OD Cup and FC Shield (General inquires) Looks good to me
- Re-naming of franchises for T20 Trophy (Cosmetic change) Yeah I'm in with this. Don't think there should be restrictions on where teams are located though.
- Possible sub rule? Yeah, think one might be needed. Not for injuries, but for rained out games or players getting called to play for Australia like Stoinis recently. Also would have to have a time restriction on it eg if they play more than 2 days their full score counts.


Also while Im at it, when positions are looked at. Bosisto bowled 42 overs in the shield game just gone, so I think he should be an all rounder rather than a batsman.
Title: Re: Welcome to Domestic Sixes (D6s)/General discussion thread
Post by: PowerBug on February 07, 2016, 10:49:44 AM
Positions can be looked into changing at any time, i will make the decision unless I am undecided where it will go to a vote for the other 6 franchises (3-3 then I have to make the final call)
Title: Re: Welcome to Domestic Sixes (D6s)/General discussion thread
Post by: PowerBug on February 08, 2016, 08:04:00 PM
- Squad sizes (Possible cap change)
So the reason behind me thinking about reducing the cap is that it will help keep the comp equal, and avoid teams from becoming too good or too bad. There's a few players on some lists which are not really used, and it's allowing some teams to kind of hoard the excess. An example of this is Brad Haddin and Mitchell Johnson. Currently with 25 players and no position restrictions, a manager (and smart managers like BP and Scrads) are able to use up a full time contract for these players, whilst not needing to cut any other of their young talent. By reducing the max squad size, it will make giving these ex-Aussie NATs full time contracts a risk, something which it is not currently.

Thus I propose that the squad size for each team is between 12 and 18 players inclusive.

- Squad makeup (E.g. is it okay if team A was to own 5 keepers or Team B to own 15 Batsmen)
We also have a potential issue in squad balance. It mainly revolves around there not being enough keepers to go around, but can also be viewed as some franchises having an imbalanced squad, which you wouldn't see to such an extent.

I suggest that each squad shall be allowed the following:
Bats: 4-8
AR: 2-5
Keep: 1-2
Bowl: 4-8

This allows for a bit of flexibility but keeps a general balance on squads. When looking at the current squads here's a list of who breaks the previous restrictions:
TAS: 6 ARs, 0 Keep, 9 Bowl
WA: 3 Bat, 1 AR, 3 Keep
VIC: 3 Keep, 9 Bowl
NSW: 10 Bat
ACT: 3 Keep
NT: 10 Bowl
SA: 1 AR

Well done QLD I guess ;)


Any changes we make regarding the above two points will have to be met by clubs by the start of the next season, so they may trade, sign and delist as they wish, break as many cap restrictions as they like, as long as come the start of the season they are under. If they are over in any area then forced de-listings is an easy fix. If they are over then focrced signings are needed, but they will incur a fee of some kind.






So there's a start for the rest of you, let's discuss :)
Title: Re: Welcome to Domestic Sixes (D6s)/General discussion thread
Post by: nrich102 on February 08, 2016, 09:45:00 PM
I don't feel that a cap on players per position is needed, because at the moment the only restriction on teams are 2 bowlers and 2 batsman, with All Rounders contributing as well. So really you could get away with only 3 bats. I'm not really convinced either way tho.

All for a cap on squads though, I don't think it will change to much.
Title: Re: Welcome to Domestic Sixes (D6s)/General discussion thread
Post by: BratPack on February 09, 2016, 03:46:37 AM
How about you take your restrictions and shove them?  :P
Title: Re: Welcome to Domestic Sixes (D6s)/General discussion thread
Post by: PowerBug on February 10, 2016, 05:06:46 PM
Quote from: BratPack on February 09, 2016, 03:46:37 AM
How about you take your restrictions and shove them?  :P
Would you like to make a serious post about the proposed changes? :)


Quote from: nrich102 on February 08, 2016, 09:45:00 PM
I don't feel that a cap on players per position is needed, because at the moment the only restriction on teams are 2 bowlers and 2 batsman, with All Rounders contributing as well. So really you could get away with only 3 bats. I'm not really convinced either way tho.

All for a cap on squads though, I don't think it will change to much.
As I was typing it out, I was starting to feel the same way.
Title: Re: Welcome to Domestic Sixes (D6s)/General discussion thread
Post by: Scrads on February 11, 2016, 04:02:31 PM
Agree to a cap on squad sizes. I think 15 or 16 works well.

Not sure a cap on squad make-up is necessary, particularly the cap on ARs seeing as they are legitimate options for both positions. Also this can be impacted by players changing positions season-to-season.
Title: Re: Welcome to Domestic Sixes (D6s)/General discussion thread
Post by: PowerBug on February 17, 2016, 03:43:09 PM
- Squad sizes (Possible cap change)
The cap for next season will be 20 players with an aim to cut it down to 18 for Season 3. Reason being is some teams have exactly 20 or more than 20 players and it would be unfair for those teams to make such vast cuts especially if they planned to acquire free agents during the off season.

- Squad makeup (E.g. is it okay if team A was to own 5 keepers or Team B to own 15 Batsmen)
No action will happen for this suggestion
Title: Re: Welcome to Domestic Sixes (D6s)/General discussion thread
Post by: PowerBug on February 17, 2016, 05:36:43 PM
- Player Poaching
Unfortunately my efforts at spreadsheeting the T20 competition wasn't very useful for looking at which players played games but weren't named. And in truth it's probably best to avoid using those numbers as most teams use their T20 contracted players anyway.

For the basis of decided when a "player is named" the numbers I will use below will have guys named as emergencies as not counting. If we proceed with a poaching system emergencies may count as being named players.

So, here are some players worth using as examples.

One Day Cup
Charlie Hemphrey - named 0 times/played 3 games, avg: 39.33 (WA)
Marnus Labuschagne - 0/3, 6.33
Jimmy Peirson - 0/5, 16.60 (VIC)
Matt Dixon - 0/4, 52.50
Will Bosisto - 0/6, 28.50 (QLD)
Seb Gotch - 0/6, 17.83
Simon Milenko - 0/4, 20.50
Nathan Reardon - 3/6, 78.33
Shane Watson - 0/3, 45.00 (NSW)
Alex Ross - 0/6, 34.17 (ACT)
Andrew Fekete - 3/6, 57.83
Andrew Tye - 2/5, 79.40
Xavier Doherty - 0/6, 54.16
Scott Boland - 0/5, 48.80
Dominic Michael - 2/6, 64.17 (NT)
Hilton Cartwright - 0/5, 53.80
Alex Gregory - 0/5, 7.40
Ryan Lees - 0/3, 28.33
Clive Rose - 0/4, 40.25
Ed Cowan - 0/5, 61.2 (SA)
Gary Putland - 0/4, 34.75

All these players were not named in at least 3 matches of the OD Cup. The ones in red were not named in at least 4 matches.

First Class Shield
Dan Worrall - 0/5, 103.40 (TAS)
Kelvin Smith - 0/3, 11.00 (SA)
Sam Rainbird - 2/5, 97.40 (ACT)
Chris Tremain - 0/5, 114.00 (VIC)
Beau Webster - 0/5, 117.60
Hamish Kingston - 0/3, 88.00
Ashton Turner - 0/3, 93.67
Gurinder Sandhu - 3/6, 47.67
Matt Renshaw - 2/6, 110.33 (NSW)
Doug Bollinger - 3/6, 97.00
Mark Cosgrove - 3/7, 61.71 (QLD)
Ben Rohrer - 0/6, 43.83
Will Bosisto - 3/6, 57.00
Sam Heazlett - 1/6, 101.67
Rob Quiney - 4/7, 75.00 (NT)
Simon Mackin - 0/3, 119.67
Fawad Ahmed - 3/7, 84.57
Clint McKay - 0/3, 47.33

And there is everyone that hasn't been named for at least 3 shield matches despite playing in them.
Title: Re: Welcome to Domestic Sixes (D6s)/General discussion thread
Post by: PowerBug on February 17, 2016, 10:43:17 PM
- Player Poaching (Part 2)
The biggest issue with this is determining which players are not being used. Let's look at some examples of the players above:

Chris Tremain - VIC
Hasn't been named from 5 matches in the Shield. I don't believe he played in the OD Cup. He was named in 3/6 Rounds for the T20 Trophy (Unsure if the Gades had any bye rounds there but he played every game for them). Imo a player like this would be one of those that can be poached, expecially when you consider his Shield average which includes a 0 from the game that was washed out on Day 1.

Alex Ross - ACT
Jayman did not name Alex Ross for any of the 6 games where he could've named him in the OD Cup. There are many reasons for why this may be the case, but look after the OD Cup. Ross has been named for 6/7 Shield Matches and from was also named in each match he played in the T20 Trophy (Also captained too). Does a player like this deserve to be put up for poaching? I believe they do not.

Will Bosisto - QLD
Played the entire OD Cup (For the CAXI) and wasn't named once (probably rightly so only had 1 good game) and has been named in 3 of his last 4 Shield matches after putting up some good numbers. He's a young player that will improve and the Koalas have taken steps to name him where possible I feel without comprimising their team strength, but he also has only been named 3/12 times when you look at the raw numbers. Where do you draw the line? You can put Heazlett and Renshaw in this group as well.

Clint McKay - NT
Hasn't been named for any of the 3 Shield matches he has played. He didn't get a game during the OD Cup because of the returning Aussie internationals, but he is a T20 specialist (Just noticed he barely got named for that as well so maybe this case he would be in trouble). But say there was a player which was a T20 specialist (Even Andrew Tye who failed the OD requirements) who doesn't get named for their D6s side in the longer forms but plays the shortest form. And I said above to exclude the short form stuff from our calculations. Does a player like that deserve to be poached? He plays a big role for the side


As usual I would really like some input on this stuff the earlier we sort it out the better. Once we have an idea on what will need to happen for a player to be poachable, then we can work out how to actually poach the player.
Title: Re: Welcome to Domestic Sixes (D6s)/General discussion thread
Post by: nrich102 on February 18, 2016, 12:22:45 AM
I think players should have to be a certain age (23/24) before they can be poached. I mean, surely it's fair enough not playing a 20yo week in week out is normal.

Also, CAXI shouldn't count as game time  :P
Title: Re: Welcome to Domestic Sixes (D6s)/General discussion thread
Post by: BratPack on February 18, 2016, 05:08:32 AM
I agree with the 23/24 rule, I think it would help too if the teams had one "Right to Match/Block" card like they used to in the IPL, like if someone wanted to poach McKay from me and I wanted to keep him for T20 purposes, I could use the card to stop them, say by adding another 50% to his salary where as if he goes he goes for the price paid
Title: Re: Welcome to Domestic Sixes (D6s)/General discussion thread
Post by: PowerBug on February 18, 2016, 10:48:25 AM
Quote from: BratPack on February 18, 2016, 05:08:32 AM
I agree with the 23/24 rule, I think it would help too if the teams had one "Right to Match/Block" card like they used to in the IPL, like if someone wanted to poach McKay from me and I wanted to keep him for T20 purposes, I could use the card to stop them, say by adding another 50% to his salary where as if he goes he goes for the price paid
Yeah I was thinking of some kind of payment which lets the team keep hold of the player as well.

Didn't think of age though, that's a good one.
Title: Re: Welcome to Domestic Sixes (D6s)/General discussion thread
Post by: PowerBug on February 22, 2016, 12:17:53 PM
So how about this then:

Any player aged 24 or over at the start of a season (1st October just to pick a date) is eligible to be poached at seasons end providing either:
- During the Matador Cup (assuming the current format stays for next season) they are not named in 4 or more of the games they play.
- During the Sheffield Shield they are not named in 4 or more of the games they play.
- During BOTH compeitions they play 3 more games than they are named for.
(Note: A player named as an emergency WILL COUNT as having been named for their D6s side, even if they are not required on field)

If a player meets one of these then the current manager has the option to pay $100,000 to hold onto the player, otherwise he will join the free agents pool for the next season where he will be available to every manager




The effect I expect it will have:
This should be the final piece to the equalisation puzzle I feel. So instead of a full poaching system where teams can take player directly, they go into the open market for everyone. This will increase the interest in the pre-season auction, make teams put some focus on giving some lesser players a run (or at least chuck them at E3)

Thoughts?
Title: Re: Welcome to Domestic Sixes (D6s)/General discussion thread
Post by: Torpedo10 on February 22, 2016, 05:44:05 PM
Quote from: PowerBug on February 22, 2016, 12:17:53 PM
So how about this then:

Any player aged 24 or over at the start of a season (1st October just to pick a date) is eligible to be poached at seasons end providing either:
- During the Matador Cup (assuming the current format stays for next season) they are not named in 4 or more of the games they play.
- During the Sheffield Shield they are not named in 4 or more of the games they play.
- During BOTH compeitions they play 3 more games than they are named for.
(Note: A player named as an emergency WILL COUNT as having been named for their D6s side, even if they are not required on field)

If a player meets one of these then the current manager has the option to pay $100,000 to hold onto the player, otherwise he will join the free agents pool for the next season where he will be available to every manager




The effect I expect it will have:
This should be the final piece to the equalisation puzzle I feel. So instead of a full poaching system where teams can take player directly, they go into the open market for everyone. This will increase the interest in the pre-season auction, make teams put some focus on giving some lesser players a run (or at least chuck them at E3)

Thoughts?
I like this idea a lot, those who aren't used should go open market.
Title: Re: Welcome to Domestic Sixes (D6s)/General discussion thread
Post by: PowerBug on February 24, 2016, 12:14:48 AM
It would certainly be easier than finding a system which allows players to be privately poached.

It also allows for stratgic plays where the manager who owns the player can choose to let him go (not pay the $100k fee) but then try to re-purchase him for a cheaper price.
Title: Re: Welcome to Domestic Sixes (D6s)/General discussion thread
Post by: BratPack on February 24, 2016, 02:45:28 PM
I like it, brings a lot of strategy into the game
Title: Re: Welcome to Domestic Sixes (D6s)/General discussion thread
Post by: PowerBug on February 24, 2016, 07:48:46 PM
- Performance review for managers
This is going to be really difficult because as stated I think we are short on numbers as it is. I might leave this discussion to last.
Title: Re: Welcome to Domestic Sixes (D6s)/General discussion thread
Post by: PowerBug on February 24, 2016, 07:59:09 PM
- Ability to keep the same T20 Contract players without going through the auction
So I was thinking if you were to purchase a player through the T20 Auction, that come the next season you have the option to hold that player for say, 50% of what you paid for him the previous season (And let that continue to drop each successive season). And we can each do this up to two times a season.

Season 1 auction has no bearing on this, so the S2 auction will be all in, then from S3 we can do the buy back process.

Thoughts?
Title: Re: Welcome to Domestic Sixes (D6s)/General discussion thread
Post by: nrich102 on February 24, 2016, 08:22:16 PM
I think it's good but there should be a limit of just one carry over player per season imo.
Title: Re: Welcome to Domestic Sixes (D6s)/General discussion thread
Post by: BratPack on February 26, 2016, 10:55:10 AM
Quote from: PowerBug on February 24, 2016, 07:59:09 PM
- Ability to keep the same T20 Contract players without going through the auction
So I was thinking if you were to purchase a player through the T20 Auction, that come the next season you have the option to hold that player for say, 50% of what you paid for him the previous season (And let that continue to drop each successive season). And we can each do this up to two times a season.

Season 1 auction has no bearing on this, so the S2 auction will be all in, then from S3 we can do the buy back process.

Thoughts?

I'm less enthused on that idea to be honest. I like the idea of keeping a a T20 Contract but I don't think he should be discounted. I mean sure you have one less spot to play with but if you discount you're just adding money to what is already a bloated team's bidding budget because they have one less player. Again I think to open up strategy you give players the option to hold their player at what they paid or throw him back and try and get him cheaper.

Or like nrich said limit it to one keeper. Because based on this season if the same teams existed (I know S2 is all in but I'm just making an example) if I knew I had a 50% discount. I'd keep my 3 internationals and with two slots on any new ones I'd just bid 300k+ on them
Title: Re: Welcome to Domestic Sixes (D6s)/General discussion thread
Post by: PowerBug on March 01, 2016, 03:30:39 PM
- Player Poaching (Final decision)
Any player aged 24 or over at the start of a season (1st October just to pick a date) is eligible to be poached at seasons end providing either:
- During the Matador Cup (assuming the current format stays for next season) they are not named in 3 of the games they play.
- During the Sheffield Shield they are not named in 4 or more of the games they play.
(Note: A player named as an emergency WILL COUNT as having been named for their D6s side, even if they are not required on field)

If a player meets one of these then the current manager has the option to pay $100,000 to hold onto the player, otherwise he will join the free agents pool for the next season where he will be available to every manager.





Slight change as I forgot that the Matador Cup only had 3 minor rounds, the data above was from the whols comp. In finals teams shouldn't have to worry about making sure their players all get a game.
Title: Re: Welcome to Domestic Sixes (D6s)/General discussion thread
Post by: PowerBug on March 01, 2016, 03:32:32 PM
- Ability to keep the same T20 Contract players without going through the auction
So I was thinking if you were to purchase a player through the T20 Auction, that come the next season you have the option to hold that player for 75% of what you paid for him the previous season (And let that continue to drop each successive season). And we can each do this up to one time a season.

Season 1 auction has no bearing on this, so the S2 auction will be all in, then from S3 we can do the buy back process.






Made a couple of changes to the original suggestion, a bit of a middle ground from what both nrich and BP said on the topic. This sound better?
Title: Re: Welcome to Domestic Sixes (D6s)/General discussion thread
Post by: nrich102 on March 01, 2016, 07:02:12 PM
Sounds good to me :)
Title: Re: Welcome to Domestic Sixes (D6s)/General discussion thread
Post by: BratPack on March 02, 2016, 11:01:16 AM
That works better. One player at 75% is better than 2 at 50%
Title: Re: Welcome to Domestic Sixes (D6s)/General discussion thread
Post by: nrich102 on May 10, 2016, 08:55:47 PM
Wattup?

We looking to continue this competition into next year? State squads have come out, so we can probably get crack a lackin soonish.
Title: Re: Welcome to Domestic Sixes (D6s)/General discussion thread
Post by: PowerBug on May 10, 2016, 08:57:23 PM
July will be my month hopefully.  Noticed all the state squads are out which is good :)
Title: Re: Welcome to Domestic Sixes (D6s)/General discussion thread
Post by: PowerBug on May 18, 2016, 09:26:19 PM
30th June I finish, 25th July I return. Plan is to send something to everyone in that time :)
Title: Re: Welcome to Domestic Sixes (D6s)/General discussion thread
Post by: PowerBug on August 09, 2016, 12:41:24 AM
So july didn't exactly happen, but it's all starting to happen now :) Start looking around, please post so I know that you're all alive and keen as well!!
Title: Re: Welcome to Domestic Sixes (D6s)/General discussion thread
Post by: nrich102 on August 09, 2016, 08:03:23 AM
I'm keen!
Title: Re: Welcome to Domestic Sixes (D6s)/General discussion thread
Post by: PowerBug on August 09, 2016, 09:27:46 PM
Quote from: nrich102 on August 09, 2016, 08:03:23 AM
I'm keen!
You get bonus points for commenting first :P
Title: Re: Welcome to Domestic Sixes (D6s)/General discussion thread
Post by: Torpedo10 on August 09, 2016, 09:31:25 PM
Cautiously waiting,  ;)
Title: Re: Welcome to Domestic Sixes (D6s)/General discussion thread
Post by: PowerBug on August 09, 2016, 09:33:20 PM
Quote from: Torpedo10 on August 09, 2016, 09:31:25 PM
Cautiously waiting,  ;)
You have a lot of work to do this season Torp do get your team up to scratch :) You won't get lucky with a cancelled Bangladesh tour to get Matador Cup wins this time!!
Title: Re: Welcome to Domestic Sixes (D6s)/General discussion thread
Post by: Torpedo10 on August 09, 2016, 10:39:01 PM
Quote from: PowerBug on August 09, 2016, 09:33:20 PM
Quote from: Torpedo10 on August 09, 2016, 09:31:25 PM
Cautiously waiting,  ;)
You have a lot of work to do this season Torp do get your team up to scratch :) You won't get lucky with a cancelled Bangladesh tour to get Matador Cup wins this time!!
Remember I got thrown into this because Jukes bailed, I think we've done ok so far.   :P

This competition is naturally flawed because the best don't have any use.  ;)
Title: Re: Welcome to Domestic Sixes (D6s)/General discussion thread
Post by: nrich102 on August 09, 2016, 10:45:50 PM
Quote from: PowerBug on August 09, 2016, 09:27:46 PM
Quote from: nrich102 on August 09, 2016, 08:03:23 AM
I'm keen!
You get bonus points for commenting first :P
An extra $100k pls  :-* :-*
Title: Re: Welcome to Domestic Sixes (D6s)/General discussion thread
Post by: PowerBug on August 09, 2016, 10:47:08 PM
Quote from: Torpedo10 on August 09, 2016, 10:39:01 PM
Quote from: PowerBug on August 09, 2016, 09:33:20 PM
Quote from: Torpedo10 on August 09, 2016, 09:31:25 PM
Cautiously waiting,  ;)
You have a lot of work to do this season Torp do get your team up to scratch :) You won't get lucky with a cancelled Bangladesh tour to get Matador Cup wins this time!!
Remember I got thrown into this because Jukes bailed, I think we've done ok so far.   :P

This competition is naturally flawed because the best don't have any use.  ;)
It's different I think, not flawed ;)

Yes you could say he did, but I think the main problem was the fact little selections were made, as opposed to the wrong selections ;) Anyway you have free selections at the Free Agency table (Picks 2 and 4) so make sure you pick decent players with them :P
Title: Re: Welcome to Domestic Sixes (D6s)/General discussion thread
Post by: BratPack on August 19, 2016, 08:41:20 PM
Define "Decent" players  :P
Title: Re: Welcome to Domestic Sixes (D6s)/General discussion thread
Post by: PowerBug on August 23, 2016, 10:10:19 PM
Quote from: BratPack on August 19, 2016, 08:41:20 PM
Define "Decent" players  :P
Better than Cam Valente (Who will be good but there were so many better options)

Okay, now that everyone has either responded to me or on here, time to get things underway :)
Title: Re: Welcome to Domestic Sixes (D6s)/General discussion thread
Post by: PowerBug on August 24, 2016, 10:07:27 PM
The Next 3 posts will be about the scoring systems, and my proposed changes. All these are up for discussion of course and I'd like to see some!!

First Class Shield
(Season 1 Format, parts in red are proposed changes)
1 run = 1 point
Getting out = -10 (Excluding bowlers)
Duck = -10 (Excluding bowlers)
50 runs in one innings = 30 points
100 runs in one innings = 30 points*

1 wicket = 25 points [Up from 20]
Maiden = 2 points
5 wickets in one innings = 30 points
10 wickets in one match = 70 points [Up from 60]

Catch = 10 points
Runout (last player affecting run out) = 20 points
Stumping = 10 points

Changes here are around the bowlers. Right now 10 wickets = 200 runs, and I think teams score more than 200 runs per innings, so this has been adjusted to 25 which is probably a more accurate reflection. Also surprisingly there weren't many 10 wicket matches by players last season, so I've bumped that up to 70 points.

*This used to say 60 points, but I've changed it so it reads 30 now. It isn't a change in the scoring system, just a wording change. When a player reaches 50 runs he gets a 30 point bonus, when he reaches 100 runs he gets another 30 point bonus. Same thing as before, wording changed.
Title: Re: Welcome to Domestic Sixes (D6s)/General discussion thread
Post by: PowerBug on August 24, 2016, 10:10:08 PM
One Day Cup
1 run = 1 point
Duck = -10 (Excluding bowlers)
Every 6 hit = 6 points
50 runs in one innings = 20 points
100 runs in one innings = 50 points
Strike rate of 100-124.99 = 15 points
Strike rate of 125+ = 25 points
(Must score 30 runs to qualify)

1 wicket = 25 points
Maiden = 6 points
3 wickets in one innings = 20 points
5 wickets in one innings = 50 points [No previous bonus for 5WI]
Economy rate of 5.01-6.0 = 15 points [Prevoiusly 4.51]
Economy rate of 5.0 rpo or less = 25 points [Previously 4.50]
(Must bowl 4 overs to qualify)

Catch = 10 points
Stumping = 10 points
Runout (last player affecting run out) = 20 points [Previously 10 points]

Again, changes for the bowlers. There was no 5 wicket haul bonus, now there is. The economy bonus has gone up making it easier to achieve (Some Matador matches will be in Perth this season so should be higher scores too). And lastly runouts are now more valuable.
Title: Re: Welcome to Domestic Sixes (D6s)/General discussion thread
Post by: PowerBug on August 24, 2016, 10:12:51 PM
T20 Trophy
1 run = 1 point
Duck = -20 (Excluding Bowlers)
Strike Rate 150+ = 20 points
Strike Rate 130 to 149.99 = 12 points
(must score 20+ runs for SR bonus)

1 wicket = 20 points
Maiden = 12 points
6 or less rpo = 20 points
6.01 to 8 rpo = 12 points
(must bowl 3 overs for economy bonus)

Catch = 12 points
Stumping = 15 points
Run out (Final player affecting Runout) = 12 points

This was the scoring system used by the BBL Fantasy crew last season. We will be following their scoring system again so if they make changes, so will we.
Title: Re: Welcome to Domestic Sixes (D6s)/General discussion thread
Post by: Torpedo10 on August 24, 2016, 10:18:43 PM
Supportive of all the changes suggested PB!
Title: Re: Welcome to Domestic Sixes (D6s)/General discussion thread
Post by: Scrads on August 28, 2016, 11:27:16 AM
No issues from me, all seems good :)
Title: Re: Welcome to Domestic Sixes (D6s)/General discussion thread
Post by: nrich102 on August 28, 2016, 01:11:47 PM
Looks good to me
Title: Re: Welcome to Domestic Sixes (D6s)/General discussion thread
Post by: BratPack on August 29, 2016, 07:11:17 AM
seems fine to me
Title: Re: Welcome to Domestic Sixes (D6s)/General discussion thread
Post by: R.Griffen on August 29, 2016, 10:42:02 AM
I agree, looks good
Title: Re: Welcome to Domestic Sixes (D6s)/General discussion thread
Post by: Nige on August 29, 2016, 12:20:55 PM
yeah nah, it kewl.
Title: Re: Welcome to Domestic Sixes (D6s)/General discussion thread
Post by: PowerBug on September 19, 2016, 06:09:43 PM
http://forum.fanfooty.com.au/index.php/topic,104333.msg1655274.html#msg1655274
Basically completely updated now :) Please take serious note of the following sections:
- Bottom of 3.2
- 4.1 Player Poaching
- 6.3 (and thus 9.3) is yet to be decided.
- 7
- 8.1 (TWO reserves)
- 10.2 Bankruptcy (Please inform me if you think any of your de-listees deserve compensation payments)

(http://i66.tinypic.com/309qxe1.jpg)
http://i66.tinypic.com/309qxe1.jpg
Current squads for every team
Title: Re: Welcome to Domestic Sixes (D6s)
Post by: PowerBug on September 30, 2016, 05:35:06 PM
4.1 Player Poaching
Any player aged 24 or over at the start of a season (1st October 2016) is eligible to be poached at seasons end providing either:
- During the Matador Cup they are not named in 2 or more of the games they play.
- During the Sheffield Shield they are not named in 4 or more of the games they play.
- During the T20 BigBash they are not named in 4 or more of the game they play
- They aren't named for a total of 8 or more matches that they play across all forms.
(Note: A player named as an emergency WILL COUNT as having been named for their D6s side, even if they are not required on field)

Listed below are the players that are over the age limit
South Australian Wombats
Cameron White   B
Ed Cowan   B
Shaun Marsh   B
Jordan Silk   B
George Bailey   B
Alex Doolan   B
Tom Beaton   B
Chris Hartley   W
John Hastings   A
Peter Siddle   F
Chadd Sayers   F
Nathan Lyon   F
Gurinder Sandhu   F


New South Wales Platypuses
Callum Ferguson   B
Jonathon Wells   B
Chris Lynn   B
Jake Lehmann   B
Alex Carey   B
Sam Raphael   B
Brad Haddin   W
Shane Watson   A
Stephen O'Keefe   A
Adam Zampa   A/F
Doug Bollinger   F
Nathan Coulter-Nile   F
Will Somerville   F


Queensland Koalas
Joe Burns   B
Nathan Reardon   B
Ben Rohrer   B
Sam Whiteman   W
James Faulkner   A
Simon Milenko   A
Peter George   F
Cameron Boyce   F


Victoria Possums
Michael Klinger   B
Travis Dean   B
Peter Handscomb   B/W
Dan Christian   A
Marcus Stoinis   A
Michael Neser   A
Joe Mennie   A/F
Michael Beer   F
Josh Lalor   F
Hamish Kingston   F
Chris Tremain   F
Nick Benton   F


Northern Territory Kangaroos
Aaron Finch   B
Rob Quiney   B
Peter Forrest   B
Dominic Michael   B
Matthew Wade   W
Ryan Carters   W
Glenn Maxwell   A
Sean Abbott   A
Hilton Cartwright   A
Trent Copeland   A
Jason Behrendorff   F
Simon Mackin   F
Fawad Ahmed   F
Luke Feldman   F
Clint McKay   F
Mitch Johnson   F


Australian Capital Territory Cockatoos
Adam Voges   B
Alex Ross   B
Joe Rogers   B
Marcus Harris   B
Nick Larkin   B
Steve Smith   B
Peter Nevill   W
Tim Paine   W
Tom Triffit   W
Evan Gulbis   A
James Hopes   A
Andrew Fekete   F
Andrew Tye   F
Jon Holland   F
Nathan Rimmington   F
Sam Rainbird   F
Scott Boland   F
Xavier Doherty   F

Tasmania Devils
Tom Cooper   B
Usman Khawaja   B
David Hussey   B
Daniel Hughes   B
David Warner   B
Moises Henriques   A
Ben Cutting   A
Jason Floros   A
Ian Holland   A
Aaron Ayre   W
Jay Lenton   W
Jackson Bird   F
Ben Hilfenhaus   F
Alister McDermott   F
Kane Richardson   F
Ryan Duffield   F
Cameron Gannon   F
Jake Reed   F
Dan Worrall   F

West Australia Swans
Nic Maddinson   B
Charlie Hemphrey    B
Ben Dunk   B
Scott Henry   B
Tim Ludeman   W
Mitchell Marsh   A
James Pattinson   F
Mitchell Starc   F
Josh Hazlewood   F
Harry Conway   F
Josh Nicholas   F
Title: Re: Welcome to Domestic Sixes (D6s)/General discussion thread
Post by: PowerBug on March 10, 2017, 06:10:21 PM
Season 3 Free Agency Compo Picks:
Pick 1: NSW Platypuses
Pick 2: WA Swans
Pick 3: NSW Platypuses
Pick 4: WA Swans
Pick 5: Q Koalas
Pick 6: SA Wombats/ACT Cockatoos (Depends on result of FC Final)