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Poll
Question: Three rounds to go - from the five teams at 6-7 sharing positions 5 through 9, which two teams do you think will play finals football?
Option 1: Santiago votes: 4
Option 2: Houston votes: 0
Option 3: Anaheim votes: 4
Option 4: Ottawa votes: 0
Option 5: New Brooklyn votes: 4
Title: Round 14 Thread (AFL Round 16)
Post by: Jukes on July 02, 2016, 06:19:03 PM
Information
Seeing as we have a Thursday-night game this round, we will allow teams to name UNLIMITED emergencies. You can name the standard four, or five, or six, or twenty - whatever you wish. Just try to remember to make your sub the last guy on your emergency list, just in case shower goes down!

Also, for the poll - yes I realise Chicago, Carolina, and San Fran can still drop out and Colorado, Las Vegas, and Quito can still make it, but let's ignore that for the poll.

Fixtures
Colorado Avalanche vs Anaheim Mighty Ducks
A must-win for the Ducks for their finals aspirations - although they'll want to improve on the 101 they scored last time they visited Denver. Colorado can't afford to lose if they want to continue their slim finals hopes. I'd back Anaheim to get the job done and possibly vault themselves back into the six.
New Brooklyn Hawks vs Boston Terriers
Of all teams to come up against this week, the Hawks would not be wanting to face Boston in a game they should hope to win to play finals. If the hawks are lucky, Boston will have their fourth sub-par score of the season and NBH will capitalise - I don't see that happening, however, putting a dent in the Hawks' finals chances.
Houston Bombers vs Carolina Panthers
Very interesting clash this one. The Panthers are sitting pretty in third spot, but must travel to the inconsistent Bombers who are just as likely to score 102 as they are 124 (the scores they had against the Grizzlies within a month). If this game had been played in round 13 the Bombers would have gotten up by 10 points - in fact, these teams have alternated scoring higher than each other the last 7 weeks. Anything can happen, but I have a sneaking suspicion the home side will be motivated by the finals hunt and get the points.
Quito Quetzals vs Chicago Sharks
Bottom-placed Quito were outstanding last round against Santiago, and now have a chance to take it up to the second-placed Sharks. Could be a great way to kickstart a miraculous run to a finals spot, but I'll back the Sharks to take the win.
Ottawa Otters vs San Francisco Grizzlies
Much has changed since these sides last met in round 4, a 23-point Grizzly win. Ottawa has gone 4-5 and has gravitated around an even ledger all season but has only scored 306 points in the last three weeks, while the Grizzlies have won 8 of 9 and have scored the second most points in the league. Ottawa need a win to keep their finals hopes going, but I don't think they'll get it - unless SF has a meltdown.
Santiago Cockerels vs Las Vegas Sinners
The Sinners have been stringing together good scores for a while now, and will test Santiago as they look to solidify their spot in fifth after going down to bottom-placed Quito last round, while Vegas did the Cockerels a favour and knocked off fellow 6-7 side Ottawa and need to win if they want to keep their finals chances alive. Santiago should get home, although the Sinners will put up a fight.

Ladder
Boston Terriers   10   3   1646   1496   110.03
Chicago Sharks   9   4   1509   1461   103.29
Carolina Panthers   9   4   1514   1479   102.37
San Francisco Grizzlies   8   5   1581   1511   104.63
Santiago Cockerels   6   7   1545   1538   100.46
Houston Bombers   6   7   1466   1473   99.52
-------------------------------------------------------------
Anaheim Mighty Ducks    6   7   1486   1496   99.33
Ottawa Otters   6   7   1483   1515   97.89
New Brooklyn Hawks   6   7   1432   1498   95.59
Colorado Avalanche   4   9   1439   1486   96.84
Las Vegas Sinners   4   9   1331   1381   96.38
Quito Quetzals   4   9   1454   1535   94.72

Lockout will occur at the start of Port Adelaide vs Hawthorn at 7:50pm EST on Thursday the 7th of July.

Full Fixture list: http://forum.fanfooty.com.au/index.php/topic,105841.0.html
Team lists: http://forum.fanfooty.com.au/index.php/topic,99246.0.html

Team Submission
D: A. Player, B. Player, C. Player, D. Player
M: E. Player (c) or (cc), F. Player (vc) or (cc), G. Player, H. Player, I. Player, J. Player
R: K. Player
F: L. Player (evc), M. Player, N. Player, O. Player
U: P. Player, Q. Player, R. Player
Emg: S. Player, T. Player, U. Player, V. Player, X. Player, Y. Player, Z. Player, A.A. Player, B.B. Player (sub)
Underline indicating this-round-only selection.

-You must name either a captain (x2) and vice-captain (x1.5) or two co-captains (1.75x each), in addition to the emergency vice-captain. If listed captaincy options are exhausted the first-named non-captain midfielder is promoted.
-Emergencies can be of ANY position and in ANY order.
-Sub SHOULD be named as the last man on the bench to avoid them being called up as a regular replacement.
Title: Re: Round 14 Thread (AFL Round 16)
Post by: Jukes on July 02, 2016, 06:26:43 PM
Might as well get my team done early:
D: H. Shaw (evc), Z. Williams, J. Pittard, K. Kolodjashnij
M: A. Miles, S. Coniglio (cc), K. Jack, J. Steven (cc), O. Wines, J. Viney
R: S. Martin
F: B. Deledio, L. Montagna, T. Hawkins, E. Betts
U: C. Guthrie, A. Swallow, R. Douglas

Emg: M. Shaw, B. Maynard, P. Wright, O. McDonald, S.D. Thompson, J. Garlett, N. Smith, D. Pearce (sub)
Title: Re: Round 14 Thread (AFL Round 16)
Post by: Jukes on July 02, 2016, 07:50:08 PM
And a few trade and draft highlights I'll point out from the last couple years - I'll exclude trades made lopsided by Dons banned players like the Steven-for-Hibberd trade.

2015/16 Trade Period - Colorado boom and bust!
Boston trade: Pick 49
Colorado trade: James Kelly
For the short-term, a massive win by Boston - Kelly is averaging 98, while Colorado passed on their pick. Kelly getting picked up again was obviously good luck, but this could be a big factor in Boston's premiership race and Colorado's finals hopes.

Boston trade: Tom Scully and RD Pick 11
Colorado trade: Ryan Bastinac and Sebastian Ross
No big winners here, but I don't think either coach expected Scully (84 average -> 99) and Ross (68 -> 92) to blossom into such fantasy relevant players, while Bastinac has been going relatively well (85 average).

Anaheim trade: Ed Curnow and Pick 44
Colorado trade: Dane Swan and Pick 26
Swan hasn't scored a point this season, and his career may very well be over. Curnow is averaging 105. Hopefully (for the Ducks, at least) this doesn't cost them a finals spot.

Colorado trade: Dale Thomas and Ben Brown
New Brooklyn trade: Shaun Atley and Kristian Jaksch
Not a competition-changing win, but just to contrast to the previous trade mentioned - Daisy has averaged 82 and Brown 73, while Atley is only averaging 62 and continues to not live up to potential, with Jaksch toiling in the VFL.

Chicago trade: Matt Rosa
Anaheim trade: 2016 NAT Round One Selection
Was it worth trading their first pick, what will probably be between Picks 5 and 8, for Matt Rosa, who will turn 30 before the year is out and is averaging 69 right now (85 if you exclude his two injury-affected games)? Possibly...

2014/15 Trade Period - Danger trade looms large
Houston trade: Jackson Thurlow and Nathan Wright
Quito trade: Joe Daniher
Daniher hasn't torn up the fantasy world just yet - but Thurlow and Wright have combined for 73 points across 2 games this season.

Anaheim trade: Will Minson + Bernie Vince
Colorado trade: Zac Smith + NAT 22 (Caleb Daniel)
Very interesting trade here - Minson has played just 10 (including today) of the 36 possible games since this trade - a big fall from his 114 average in 2013. Zac Smith, meanwhile, has been carving out a respectable season at Geelong (78 average from 14 games), and Caleb Daniel has had a solid second season - but, unfortunately for Anaheim, Vince - now of Houston - is having a career year with a 104 average.

Anaheim trade: Jarryd Roughead + Andrew Gaff
Chicago trade: Patrick Dangerfield + NAT 10 (Jarrod Pickett - NBH)
Unfortunately for Chicago, Roughy has missed all 2016 and Gaff has averaged just 85. As we all know, Danger has been torching opponents on his way to a 135 average (including scores of 162, 166, 173, and 229) and possibly kept Anaheim in finals contention, while pick 10 changed hands a few times before becoming Jarrod Pickett.

Brooklyn trade: Trent Cotchin
Boston trade: NAT Picks 10, 11 and 24
The aforementioned Pickett (yet to debut), Caleb Marchbank (7 games in 1 1/2 seasons for an average of 46), and Dan McKenzie (9 games for an average of 48). For Trent Cotchin - who is averaging 106.5 this season. Yes, there's plenty of time for this trade to turn around, and draft picks have a reasonably large luck component, but this looks like a robbery.

2015 Rookie Draft Steals
5. Orazio Fantastia - Anaheim Mighty Ducks - in between Jordan Dawson and Harris Andrews, Fantasia has been showing all the signs of being a fantastic player.
33. Josh Smith - Boston Terriers and 38. Ryan Davis - Boston Terriers - neither have really been required by the Terriers, but they provide solid depth and possible future starters.

2015 Top-Up Draft Steals
9. James Sicily - Chicago Sharks (Stewart Crameri) - his 68 average isn't huge, but he's played every game and has been a great pick-up for a mostly unwanted player.

2014 National Draft Steals
13. Las Vegas Sinners - Jordan De Goey and 20. Las Vegas Sinners - Connor Blakely - both players have certainly had good seasons so far and show many good signs for the future - although unfortunately Blakely was traded to the Terriers.
22. Anaheim Mighty Ducks - Caleb Daniel - a part of the Minson/Vince/Smith trade, is no Bernie Vince but is giving his all and has a bright future.

2014 Recycled Player Draft Steals, Flops, and Mini-Redraft
12. Boston Terriers - Todd Goldstein - obviously the first round was full of guns (the worst player arguably being O'Meara (injury and still young), Tyson (still young), or Hartlett), but taking Goldy - who averaged 129 last season and 113 so far this season - was a master stroke and could deliver the Terriers the title they fell just short of last season.
29. San Francisco Grizzlies - Heath Shaw - speaking of delivering titles, taking the best defender in fantasy this late had a huge impact on the 2015 Premiership, averaging 112.6 last year, with 112.4 this season too (including a 46 that didn't count in this competition!).
35. Santiago Cockerels -  Reece Conca - now for a not-so-good selection. Coming off 18/81 and 18/78 (games/average), he has played just five games in 2015 and 2016 at an average of 62. Only 23, but when you look at the guys taken behind him...
43. Colorado Avalanche - Luke Hodge and 52. Quito Quetzals - Sam Mitchell - I guess everybody looks a bit foolish now for passing on these guys for 42 and 51 selections because of age. Injury has obviously taken it's toll on Hodgey this season, but his 108 average last season was very valuable and he still has a couple years left in the tank, while Sammy has gone 109 and 105 and also has a few years left still.
51. Brooklyn Hawks - Sam Day - the guy taken ahead of Mitchell doesn't look like he'll set the world on fire anytime soon. Harsh maybe seeing as he's a D/F, is still just 23 and plays almost every week, but meh.
54. New Jersey Devils - Jake Neade - he plays every game at least - but it looks like he's a career 50s average. Definitely better options left.
64. Quito Quetzals - Chris Dawes - do I need to say anything? Maybe just look at the guy picked next...
65. San Francisco Grizzlies - Leigh Montagna - see below post.
71. Santiago Cockerels - Max Gawn - see below post. The two guys taken before him? Adam Kennedy (7/60 and 10/55) and Nathan Gordon (9/44 and 0/0), who are both lucky to not be awarded flop status - I'll give them a pass due to being taken so late.

Jukes' Redraft-Redraft:
1. Todd Goldstein (12 - Boston)
2. Heath Shaw (29 - San Francisco)
3. Dustin Martin (2 - Peru)
4. Max Gawn (71 - Santiago)
5. Tom Rockliff (1 - Las Vegas)
6. Jack Steven (10 - Anaheim)
7. Brett Deledio (17 - San Francisco)
8. Bryce Gibbs (3 - New Brooklyn)
9. Ollie Wines (5 - San Francisco)
10. Shane Mumford (14 - Peru)
11. Sam Mitchell (52 - Quito)
12. Leigh Montagna (65 - San Francisco)


And a previous piece for the intial draft - obviously a fair bit has changed since then!

Quote from: Jukes on June 29, 2015, 10:30:55 PM
And if anybody wants to see some great and terrible drafting from the initial draft;

GREAT
21. Nathan Fyfe (JBsHawks)
48. Todd Goldstein (Memphistopheles)
54. Dyson Heppell (SydneyRox)
62. Alex Rance (Football Factory)
69. Dustin Martin (FisherSaints)
90. Dylan Shiel (gossiboy)
94. Travis Boak (Football Factory)
96. David Armitage (Nigey)
115. Daniel Hannebery (Jukes)
116. Luke Parker (Torp)
138. Robbie Gray (Nails)
183. Dion Prestia (Nails)
202. Liam Shiels (Nails)
205. Tom McDonald (Torp)
221. Brandon Ellis (nrich102)
225. Matthew Lobbe (Nigey)
231. Sam Docherty (Gossiboy)
238. Stefan Martin (Jukes)
264. Jack Gunston (KoopKicka)
270. Matthew Jaensch (Jukes)
275. Anthony Miles (Jukes)
283. Eddie Betts (kilbluff1985)
309. Aaron Sandilands (JBsHawks)
315. Tom Bell (kilbluff1985)
326. Lachie Neale (kilbluff1985)
350. Cale Hooker (Football Factory)
376. Rory Laird (Toga)
465. Mark Blicavs (memphistopholes)
560. Levi Greenwood (memphistopholes)
595. Jonathon Ceglar (Jukes)
607. Easton Wood (Jayman)
630. Lynden Dunn (SydneyRox)
639. Jeremy McGovern (Jayman)

TERRIBLE
1. Gary Ablett Junior (Nigey)
23. Ben McEvoy (Nails)
33. Jack Grimes (Nigey)
46. Dale Thomas (Jukes)
52. Jonathan Giles (Torp)
59. Matthew Wright (kilbluff1985)
60. Dean Cox (FisherSaints)
63. Beau Waters (Jayman)
68. Danny Stanley (nrich102)
71. Tom Bellchambers (gossiboy)
79. Mitch Robinson (GreenMoon)
86. Jonathon Griffin (SydneyRox)
92. Nathan Grima (FisherSaints)
97. Arryn Siposs (Nigey)
142. Greg Broughton (Jukes)
165. Lewis Stevenson (FisherSaints)
176. Tim Mohr (Memphistopholes)
201. Liam Anthony (Toga)
219. Majak Daw (kilbluff1985)
228. Jordan Gysberts (nrich102)
251. Curtly Hampton (kilbluff1985)
255. Scott Gumbleton (Jayman)
263. Marty Clarke (Gossiboy)
320. Quinten Lynch (Nigey)
388. Karmichael Hunt (nrich102)
403. Luke McGuane (Jukes)
409. Sam Blease (KoopKicka)
468. Josh Bootsma (Torp)
554. Richard Tambling (Nails)
574. Brad D1ck (Football Factory)

Great, but...
74. Tom Liberatore (Nails) - current injury clouding his future as an elite player
83. Michael Hurley (Jukes) - traded him before he got good for Sylvia :'(
292. Elliot Yeo (nrich102) - also traded him for chips (and then he got traded again for slightly more but still not enough chips!)
385. Eric Mackenzie (Nigey) - also injury-concerns
397. Josh Thomas (Torp) - if not done for drugs would've been a gun
512. Adam Oxley (Nigey) - delisted, picked up at #1 in the recent mid-season draft

For those who want a look, http://forum.fanfooty.com.au/index.php/topic,99158.msg1479574.html#msg1479574


Additionally, here's a last-time-they-played for this week's match-ups:
Colorado Avalanche 14.15.99 lost to Anaheim Mighty Ducks 14.17.101
New Brooklyn Hawks 17.10.112 lost to Boston Terriers 20.9.129
Carolina Panthers 17.12.114 defeated Houston Bombers 15.16.106
Chicago Sharks 19.10.124 defeated Quito Quetzals 16.10.106
San Francisco Grizzlies 20.10.130 defeated Ottawa Otters 16.11.107
Santiago Cockerels 21.7.133 defeated Las Vegas Sinners 18.14.122
Title: Re: Round 14 Thread (AFL Round 16)
Post by: T Dog on July 02, 2016, 07:54:29 PM
Colorado certainly gets involved   :o
Title: Re: Round 14 Thread (AFL Round 16)
Post by: Nige on July 02, 2016, 10:47:27 PM
I think my initial draft was actually really good with the exception of a handful of picks (Grimes, Siposs, Lynch to name a few). Some of the depth/talent was spot on, just a few seasons too early on them!
Title: Re: Round 14 Thread (AFL Round 16)
Post by: powersuperkents on July 02, 2016, 11:07:25 PM
I got Maxy Gawn for pick 71 in the Recycle Draft

Surely that's the greatest draft steal in history (115ppg average so far)
Title: Re: Round 14 Thread (AFL Round 16)
Post by: Jukes on July 02, 2016, 11:48:19 PM
Quote from: powersuperkents on July 02, 2016, 11:07:25 PM
I got Maxy Gawn for pick 71 in the Recycle Draft

Surely that's the greatest draft steal in history (115ppg average so far)

Thanks for the reminder, was going to add that in earlier but got distracted haha - will add those guys in now!

Just as much as a steal from that draft I feel was me taking Leigh Montagna at #65 - nobody knew Gawn would turn out to be elite, while Joey had averaged 102, 97, 125, 115, 101, 99, 115, and 89 in the 8 seasons previous (111 last season and at 99 atm even with a few stinkers) and was only just the wrong side of 30. The four guys taken previously? Clay Smith, Dumont, Duryea, and Dawes. Was a premiership winning move I say ;D

In fact, I did very well in the redraft - probably the reason I took out the flag! Ollie Wines, Brett Deledio, Heath Shaw, Andrew Swallow, Ben Howlett, and Leigh Montagna - 4 of which I've included in my first round redraft, in addition to trading for Jack Steven who is also up there in the redraft.
Title: Re: Round 14 Thread (AFL Round 16)
Post by: popedelio on July 03, 2016, 12:43:51 PM
Great review of the drafts and trades Jukesy!! Top notch effort and a good read.

Quote from: Jukes on July 02, 2016, 07:50:08 PM

Anaheim trade: Jarryd Roughead + Andrew Gaff
Chicago trade: Patrick Dangerfield + NAT 10 (Jarrod Pickett - NBH)
Unfortunately for Chicago, Roughy has missed all 2016 and Gaff has averaged just 85. As we all know, Danger has been torching opponents on his way to a 135 average (including scores of 162, 166, 173, and 229) and possibly kept Anaheim in finals contention, while pick 10 changed hands a few times before becoming Jarrod Pickett.

Reason I made this trade was I knew both Parker and Danger were going to lose their FWD eligibility and needed a forward, didn't look too bad in 2015 with Gaff going 104 and Roughy 97 as fwd vs Danger 120, but this year Danger has been fire and Gaff has regressed and Roughy just being damn unlucky :'(
Title: Re: Round 14 Thread (AFL Round 16)
Post by: Jukes on July 03, 2016, 04:11:17 PM
Quote from: popedelio on July 03, 2016, 12:43:51 PM
Great review of the drafts and trades Jukesy!! Top notch effort and a good read.

Quote from: Jukes on July 02, 2016, 07:50:08 PM

Anaheim trade: Jarryd Roughead + Andrew Gaff
Chicago trade: Patrick Dangerfield + NAT 10 (Jarrod Pickett - NBH)
Unfortunately for Chicago, Roughy has missed all 2016 and Gaff has averaged just 85. As we all know, Danger has been torching opponents on his way to a 135 average (including scores of 162, 166, 173, and 229) and possibly kept Anaheim in finals contention, while pick 10 changed hands a few times before becoming Jarrod Pickett.

Reason I made this trade was I knew both Parker and Danger were going to lose their FWD eligibility and needed a forward, didn't look too bad in 2015 with Gaff going 104 and Roughy 97 as fwd vs Danger 120, but this year Danger has been fire and Gaff has regressed and Roughy just being damn unlucky :'(

Cheers mate :D

Yeah it made sense at the time, but with hindsight you certainly could use Danger over Gaff for your flag hopes this season!
Title: Re: Round 14 Thread (AFL Round 16)
Post by: kilbluff1985 on July 03, 2016, 05:18:32 PM
from memory i don't think we even discussed that trade was probably the quickest trade discussion on a high profile player ever
Title: Re: Round 14 Thread (AFL Round 16)
Post by: kilbluff1985 on July 03, 2016, 05:38:30 PM
and b4 injuries this year i was expected to be a contender that's why the Rosa trade makes sense
Title: Re: Round 14 Thread (AFL Round 16)
Post by: popedelio on July 04, 2016, 12:53:34 AM
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on July 03, 2016, 05:18:32 PM
from memory i don't think we even discussed that trade was probably the quickest trade discussion on a high profile player ever

I think that is because our organisations have a great trade relationship ;D
Title: Re: Round 14 Thread (AFL Round 16)
Post by: popedelio on July 04, 2016, 11:30:14 AM
Chicago Sharks

D: Tom McDonald, Josh Gibson (EVC), Shaun Burgoyne, Tom Sheridan
M: Joel Selwood (CC), Andrew Gaff, Luke Parker (CC), Liam Picken, Dom Tyson, Sam Gibson
R: Callum Sinclair
F: Brent Harvey, Tom T. Lynch, Jake Stringer, Sam Kerridge
U: Michael Rischitelli [M], Danel Wells [F/M], Elliot Yeo [D/M]
Emg: Clayton Oliver [M], Courtenay Dempsey [D], Rory Lobb [R/F], Daniel Menzel [F] (sub)
Title: Re: Round 14 Thread (AFL Round 16)
Post by: Pkbaldy on July 04, 2016, 01:24:15 PM
Why did so many vote for me?? O.o I voted for Santiago haha...


Ummm Tdog won a trade with me... I lost Lachie Hunter for Nathan Freeman and a Rookie Pick Upgrade (Daniel Currie).
Title: Re: Round 14 Thread (AFL Round 16)
Post by: nas on July 04, 2016, 05:40:00 PM
Carolina Panthers.

Def: Sam Docherty - Sam Mayes - Matthew Boyd - Nathan Krakouer.
Mid: JPKennedy - Callum Ward (VC) - Dylan Shiel - Marcus Bontempelli (C) - Josh Kelly - Shane Edwards.
Ruck: Shane Mumford.
Fwd: Dustin Martin (EVC) - Steve Johnson - Cyril Rioli - Jack Redpath.
Util: Mitch Brown (B/F), - Brodie Grundy (R), -  Rory Atkins (M).

Emerg: John Patton (F), - C Menadue (M/F), - Sam Day (B/F), - Levi Casboult (F) - Jay Schulz (F) (Sub).
Title: Re: Round 14 Thread (AFL Round 16)
Post by: Jukes on July 04, 2016, 09:10:51 PM
And since this is the round of review, for those who are interested, here are approximate team scores if they had their banned players back and playing for them - I am adding the difference between the player's 2015 averages (with one exception) and 75, 75 being the average SC score (3300/44), times by 13. If a player failed to average 75 I haven't included them in the comparison.

Points Rank.Team Name   Real Points Scored + Added Points for Banned Players = Adjusted Score   New Points Rank
1. Boston Terriers   1646 + 0 = 1646   1st
2. San Francisco Grizzlies    1581 + 22.8 = 1603.8   2nd
3. Santiago Cockerels   1545 + 0 = 1545   3rd
4. Carolina Panthers   1514 + 4.16* = 1518.16   6th
5. Chicago Sharks   1509 + 9.19 = 1518.19   5th
6. Anaheim Mighty Ducks   1486 + 49.14 = 1535.14   4th
7. Ottawa Otters  1483 + 0 = 1483 7th
8. Houston Bombers   1466 + 13.78 = 1479.78 8th
9. Quito Quetzals   1454 + 0 = 1454 10th
10. Colorado Avalanche   1439 + 16.81 = 1455.81 9th
11. New Brooklyn Hawks   1432 + 0 = 1432 11th
12. Las Vegas Sinners   1331 + 0 = 1332 12th
*Myers had 2015 ruined by injury, so I made his score an average of his 2014 and 2015 averages, equalling 79.8.

Obviously this doesn't account for other factors such as team depth, players averaging under 75 starting, player positions, and top-up players picked up, but I think it's a fair guide. Anaheim jump a couple spots due to their banned trio of Heppell, Hurley, and Hibberd, while Carolina shoot down a couple spots. Boston stay in first but have their lead cut by about a third due to Stanton's points for San Francisco. The bottom half of the ladder remains mostly unchanged, with just Colorado narrowly jumping Quito.
Title: Re: Round 14 Thread (AFL Round 16)
Post by: T Dog on July 04, 2016, 09:14:27 PM
But next year, after a full rebuild, cleanout of deadwood, new coaching panel and list management strategy change Colorado will....will... be 9th. Hang on ..thats an AFL team plan.   ::) leave it with me   :-\
Title: Re: Round 14 Thread (AFL Round 16)
Post by: kilbluff1985 on July 04, 2016, 09:17:12 PM
Jukes could u easily do one for Anaheim with no injuries also and no banned players?
Title: Re: Round 14 Thread (AFL Round 16)
Post by: Jukes on July 04, 2016, 11:18:48 PM
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on July 04, 2016, 09:17:12 PM
Jukes could u easily do one for Anaheim with no injuries also and no banned players?

Every team has injuries, and some players are more injury-prone than others, so I don't think that's that fair of a comparison - and it would be pretty hard to do aha, but I'll give it a shot - I'll probably miss a fair few players, and I've implemented a qualifier of having played 8 games or under. One big limitation of this, however, is that it mostly doesn't take into account injuries to players who ooze potential but are yet to break that 75 barrier, and of course the limitations of the bombers list that were mentioned previously.

Few notes:
Santiago - M. Lobbe does not qualify for this, but him being injured has certainly impacted Santiago.
Quito - C. Yarran, like Lobbe, does not qualify but should be considered
Anaheim - D. Smith could be given an addition, but has averaged 75.5 without injuries so does not qualify, despite averaging 90.2 and 87.9 the last two seasons

Points Rank.Team Name   Real Points Scored + Added Points for Banned Players + Added Points for Injuries = Adjusted Score   New Points Rank
1. Boston Terriers   1646 + 0 + 11.2 = 1657.2   1st
2. San Francisco Grizzlies    1581 + 22.8 + 10.39 = 1614.19   2nd
3. Santiago Cockerels   1545 + 0 + 19.67 = 1564.67   4th
4. Carolina Panthers   1514 + 4.16 + 0 = 1518.16   7th
5. Chicago Sharks   1509 + 9.19 + 20.65 = 1538.84   5th
6. Anaheim Mighty Ducks   1486 + 49.14 + 50.1 = 1585.24   3rd
7. Ottawa Otters  1483 + 0 + 14.19 = 1497.19   8th
8. Houston Bombers   1466 + 13.78 + 40.83 = 1520.61   6th
9. Quito Quetzals   1454 + 0 + 39.56 = 1493.56   9th
10. Colorado Avalanche   1439 + 16.81 + 11.01 = 1466.82   10th
11. New Brooklyn Hawks   1432 + 0 + 5.84 = 1437.84   11th
12. Las Vegas Sinners   1331 + 0 + 31.08 = 1362.08   12th
Title: Re: Round 14 Thread (AFL Round 16)
Post by: Pkbaldy on July 05, 2016, 03:20:59 PM
New Brooklyn Hawks

DEF: Lee Spurr, Nathan Wilson, Daniel Talia, Taylor Duryea
MID: Steele Sidebottom (C), Patrick Cripps, Jack Newnes (VC), Tom Liberatore, Brad Crouch, Matt Crouch
RUCK: Sam Jacobs
FWD: Daisy Thomas, Jack Gunston, Lewis Taylor, Jamie Cripps
UTIL: Mark Blicavs, Tim Membrey, Mav Weller
EMG: Jake Lever (D), Blake Acres (M) (SUB), Daniel Currie (R), Reece Conca (F)
Title: Re: Round 14 Thread (AFL Round 16)
Post by: T Dog on July 06, 2016, 12:42:02 PM
Colorado Avalanche

Backs:  J. Bartel; T. Bugg; Z. Tuohy; R. Tarrant;
Mids:  S. Thompson; D. Mundy (DVC); I. Smith; L. Hunter (C); T. Scully (VC); B. Ebert;
Ruck:  T. Hickey;
Forwards:  S. Gray; M. Hutchings; D. Kent; A. Hall
Utilities:   E. Curnow;  L. Hodge; B. McKenzie
Reserves:  J. Harbrow (D); W. Minson (R); T. Varcoe (F); L. Jong (M)
Title: Re: Round 14 Thread (AFL Round 16)
Post by: powersuperkents on July 06, 2016, 08:40:12 PM
Santiago Cockerels

B: Dane Rampe, Nick Malceski, Steven May, Jarman Impey
M: Hamish Hartlett, Mitch Duncan, Lachie Whitfield, Gary Ablett Jnr. (C), Jack Macrae, Luke Shuey
R: Max Gawn (VC)
F: Josh Jenkins, Charlie Cameron, Josh J. Kennedy,
U: Dayne Zorko (EVC), David Armitage, Luke Dunstan

E: Alex Sexton (m/f), David Astbury (def), Sam Frost (r/f),Touk Miller (sub)
Title: Re: Round 14 Thread (AFL Round 16)
Post by: kilbluff1985 on July 06, 2016, 09:37:27 PM
Anaheim Mighty Ducks

D: Enright, Birchall, Fantasia, B Smith
M: Danger (C), Hanners (VC), Boak (EVC), Greenwood, Zerrett, T Greene
R: Nicholls
F: Stokes, C Daniel, Vandenberg, M Wood
I/C: Tippa, Stretch, S Butler

Emerg: Brooksby (R), C Wagner(sub)
Title: Re: Round 14 Thread (AFL Round 16)
Post by: SydneyRox on July 06, 2016, 10:18:00 PM
Sinners

DEF: Harry Taylor, Nick Haynes, Brad Sheppard, Zak Jones
MID: Tom Rockliff (C), Jordan Lewis(VC), Jack Ziebell, Josh Caddy, Tom Mitchell, Jake Lloyd
RUCK: Jonathon Griffin
FWD: Lance Franklin(EVC), Justin Westhoff, Taylor Walker,James Rose
UTI: Jeff Garlett, Jordan DeGoey, Clay Smith
EMERG:  Lachie Plowman(DEF), Jarryd Lyons(FWD), Ben Keays(MID), Gary Rohan(FWD), Luke Russell(Fwd/Mid), Shaun Hampson(Ruc), George Hewett (SUB)(MID)

Title: Re: Round 14 Thread (AFL Round 16)
Post by: Nige on July 07, 2016, 04:16:16 PM
Ottawa Otters

Easton Wood, Jeremy McGovern, Matthew Broadbent, Jason Johannisen
Adam Treloar (c), Dion Prestia (vc), Pearce Hanley, Ben Cunnington, Liam Shiels, Nathan Jones (evc)
Ben McEvoy
Jesse Hogan, Luke Breust, Charlie Dixon, Sam Lloyd
Tom Cutler, Billy Hartung, Phil Davis

Cam Sutcliffe (def), Jarryd Blair (fwd), Andrew Walker (def/fwd), Karl Amon (mid/fwd - sub)
Title: Re: Round 14 Thread (AFL Round 16)
Post by: kilbluff1985 on July 07, 2016, 07:54:30 PM
Anaheim Mighty Ducks

D: Enright, Birchall, Fantasia, B Smith
M: Danger (C), Hanners (VC), Boak (EVC), Zerrett, T Greene, Seedsman
R: Nicholls
F: D Smith, C Daniel, Vandenberg, M Wood
I/C: Tippa, Stretch, C Wagner

Emerg: Brooksby (R), Butler (D), D Tucker (sub), J White (fwd)
Title: Re: Round 14 Thread (AFL Round 16)
Post by: Jay on July 07, 2016, 08:36:16 PM
Houston Bombers

D: Alex Rance (EVC), Jamie Macmillan, Andrew Mackie, Dylan Roberton
M: Rory Sloane (C), Bernie Vince (VC), Taylor Adams, Brandon Ellis, Stephen Hill, Jack Crisp
R: Matthew Kreuzer
F: Steven Motlop, Jack Riewoldt, Michael Walters, Lachie Henderson
I/C: Paul Puopolo, Koby Stevens, Jack Darling

E: Jacob Weitering (d), Chris Masten (m)(sub), Bradley Hill (m), Brandon Matera (f)
Title: Re: Round 14 Thread (AFL Round 16)
Post by: T Dog on July 08, 2016, 12:10:49 PM
Quote from: T Dog on July 06, 2016, 12:42:02 PM
Colorado Avalanche

Backs:  J. Bartel; T. Bugg; Z. Tuohy; R. Tarrant;
Mids:  S. Thompson; D. Mundy (DVC); I. Smith; L. Hunter (C); T. Scully (VC); B. Ebert;
Ruck:  T. Hickey;
Forwards:  S. Gray; M. Hutchings; D. Kent; A. Hall
Utilities:   E. Curnow; L. Hodge; B. McKenzie
Reserves:  J. Harbrow (D); W. Minson (R); T. Varcoe (F); L. Jong (M)

Update:

Backs:  J. Bartel; J. Harbrow; Z. Tuohy; R. Tarrant;
Mids:  S. Thompson; D. Mundy (DVC); I. Smith; L. Hunter (C); T. Scully (VC); B. Ebert;
Ruck:  T. Hickey;
Forwards: A. Fasolo; M. Hutchings; D. Kent; A. Hall
Utilities:   E. Curnow;  L. Hodge; B. McKenzie
Reserves:  T. Varcoe (D); S. Naismith (R); L. Jong (F); D. Parish (M)(Sub)
Title: Re: Round 14 Thread (AFL Round 16)
Post by: elephants on July 08, 2016, 07:47:21 PM
D: Laird, Biggs, Rich, Hurn
M: Pendles (VC), Priddis, Neale, Cotchin, Dal Santo, Ross (C)
R: Goldy
F: Riewoldt, Lecca, Robinson, Watts
I: Howe, Wallis, Kelly

EMG: Welly, Basti, J.Martin

Missed out on Robbie Gray's score because Thursday nights always catch me off guard lol
Title: Re: Round 14 Thread (AFL Round 16)
Post by: kilbluff1985 on July 08, 2016, 07:54:00 PM
Anaheim Mighty Ducks

D: Enright, Birchall, Fantasia, B Smith
M: Danger (C), Hanners (VC), Boak (EVC), Zerrett, T Greene, Vandenberg
R: Nicholls
F: D Smith, C Daniel, M Wood, D Rioli
I/C: Tippa, Stretch, C Wagner

Emerg: Brooksby (R), Butler (D), D Tucker (sub), J White (fwd)
Title: Re: Round 14 Thread (AFL Round 16)
Post by: powersuperkents on July 08, 2016, 08:01:19 PM
Quote from: powersuperkents on July 06, 2016, 08:40:12 PM
Santiago Cockerels - Unofficial Scores

B: Dane Rampe (138), Nick Malceski (71), Steven May (79), Jarman Impey (75)
M: Hamish Hartlett (81), Mitch Duncan (95), Lachie Whitfield (53), Gary Ablett Jnr. (148), Jack Macrae (126), Luke Shuey (131)
R: Max Gawn (212)
F: Josh Jenkins (90), Charlie Cameron (47), Josh J. Kennedy (115), Alex Sexton (75)
U: Dayne Zorko (94), David Armitage (94), Luke Dunstan (80)

E: Alex Sexton (75), David Astbury (def), Sam Frost (r/f), Touk Miller (139)
1, 896 + 47 HGA = 1, 943 or 130 points

Touk Miller subbed in for Charlie Cameron

Sexton from E1 to F4
Title: Re: Round 14 Thread (AFL Round 16)
Post by: powersuperkents on July 10, 2016, 12:12:28 AM
I literally just noticed that I only named 3 forwards...  :-[

Sexton comes in as E1 (moves straight to F4)
Title: Re: Round 14 Thread (AFL Round 16)
Post by: Jukes on July 10, 2016, 03:40:47 AM
^ Indeed he does

I'll be doing all the scores this week as Nige is busy, have them all up to date atm (but too lazy to give an update) - they'll be up pretty quickly tomorrow afternoon I'd imagine. Related, Nige will be doing all the scores for next round as I'll be in Bali from the 11th to 21st.

Also, bloody Peter Wright continues to press for selection (70, 104 and 136 since his bye), but I know the week I name him he'll put out a 40 ;-; it's a hard life
Title: Re: Round 14 Thread (AFL Round 16)
Post by: nas on July 10, 2016, 08:58:07 AM
Quote from: nas on July 04, 2016, 05:40:00 PM
Carolina Panthers.

Def: Sam Docherty (107) - Sam Mayes (82) - Matthew Boyd (107) - Nathan Krakouer (78).
Mid: JPKennedy (117) - Callan Ward (VC 78 +39 = 117) - Dylan Shiel (80) - Marcus Bontempelli (C 140 x 2 = 280) - Josh Kelly (95) - Shane Edwards (85).
Ruck: Shane Mumford (106).
Fwd: Dustin Martin (111) - Steve Johnson (44) - Cyril Rioli (108) - Jack Redpath (76).
Util: Mitch Brown (70) (B/F), - Brodie Grundy (91) (R), -  Rory Atkins (76) (M).

Emerg: John Patton (64) (F), - C Menadue (71) (M/F), - Sam Day (55) (B/F), - Levi Casboult (32) (F) - Jay Schulz (63) (F) (Sub).

18 / 1830
Title: Re: Round 14 Thread (AFL Round 16)
Post by: Pkbaldy on July 10, 2016, 05:51:02 PM
Quote from: Pkbaldy on July 05, 2016, 03:20:59 PM
New Brooklyn Hawks

DEF: Lee Spurr 45, Nathan Wilson DNP, Daniel Talia 122, Taylor Duryea 90
MID: Steele Sidebottom 254 (C), Patrick Cripps 102, Jack Newnes (VC), Tom Liberatore 47, Brad Crouch 109, Matt Crouch 87
RUCK: Sam Jacobs 114
FWD: Daisy Thomas 53, Jack Gunston 95, Lewis Taylor 44, Jamie Cripps
UTIL: Mark Blicavs 83, Tim Membrey, Mav Weller
EMG: Jake Lever 97 (D), Blake Acres (M) (SUB), Daniel Currie (R), Reece Conca (F)

Lever on for Wilson. 14/1342
Title: Re: Round 14 Thread (AFL Round 16)
Post by: kilbluff1985 on July 10, 2016, 06:34:58 PM
M Wood joins the injury list
Title: Re: Round 14 Thread (AFL Round 16)
Post by: Jukes on July 10, 2016, 08:30:06 PM
Colorado Avalanche 16.11.107 lost to Anaheim Mighty Ducks 17.8.110
(Real: 1598 vs 1649)

They weren't that convincing, but Dangerfield has (as usual) driven the Ducks back to an even 7-7 record, while the Avalanche can unfortunately say goodbye to finals football. Brad Ebert getting injured on just 10 was probably the killer blow for the home team, with that 51-point differential only requiring a 61 from Brad (and it would've positively affected their HGA too). Zach Merrett also starred for the Ducks, while Hodge was the best for the Avalanche.

Best
Colorado: Hodge, Kent, Harbrow, Fasolo
Anaheim: Dangerfield, Merrett, Nicholls, Hannebery, McDonald-Tipungwuti


New Brooklyn Hawks 18.12.120 lost to Boston Terriers 19.11.125
(Real: 1799 vs 1870)

Very unlucky for the hawks as they put up a very impressive performance to no avail. Boston keep winning, while finals will be very hard to achieve from here for the New Yorkers.

Best
New Brooklyn: Sidebottom, Talia, Jacobs, B. Crouch, P. Cripps, Newnes, Membrey
Boston: Laird, Priddis, Neale, Howe, Hurn, Watts, Ross, Goldstein, Riewoldt, Cotchin, Pendlebury


Houston Bombers 17.10.112 lost to Carolina Panthers 19.9.123
(Real: 1682 vs 1850)

Marcus Bontempelli, what more can you say! A huge 140 as captain has done the bulk of the work in getting the Panthers over the line, although not without help. Houston just weren't up to the task and could have placed their finals hopes in jeopardy.

Best
Houston: Sloane, Mackie, Adams, Masten, Macmillan, Puopolo
Carolina: Bontempelli, Kennedy, Martin, Rioli, Boyd, Docherty, Mumford


Quito Quetzals 16.10.106 lost to Chicago Sharks 18.10.118
(Real: 1583 vs 1771)

Four games, four visiting victories. The Sharks maintain second spot with a comfortable victory in Quito, although Rischitelli's early injury didn't help. Quito join Colorado as out of the finals race, unfortuantely.

Best
Quito: Lynch, Mitchell, Goddard
Chicago: McDonald, Parker, Burgoyne, Gibson, Stringer, Selwood, Yeo


Ottawa Otters 17.11.113 lost to San Francisco Grizzlies 18.12.120
(Real: 1696 vs 1802)

A gritty win by the Grizzlies, largely on the back of co-captain Steven's mammoth 170. Hogan was big up forward for the home team, while McGovern and Broadbent held strong down back. I know it's a bit weird to say this considering they just scored 120, but the Grizzlies will need to improve.

Best
Ottawa: Broadbent, Hogan, Prestia, McGovern, Jones
San Francisco: Steven, Jack, Viney, Wines


Santiago Cockerels 20.10.130 defeated Las Vegas Sinners 16.9.106
(Real: 1946 vs 1585)

Big big win by the Cockerels who look to set up a big finals assault. Captain Ablett was injured and will miss time on the run home, but others stood up - and this win could have been larger if not for Kennedy's inaccuracy (the spud). The Sinners will also definitely join the teams sitting on the sidelines come finals time, although their form of late will give them hope for 2017.

Best
Santiago: Gawn, Miller, Rampe, Shuey, Macrae, Kennedy
Las Vegas: Mitchell, Lewis
Title: Re: Round 14 Thread (AFL Round 16)
Post by: Jukes on July 10, 2016, 08:59:15 PM
Ladder
Boston Terriers   11   3   1771   1616   109.59
Chicago Sharks   10   4   1627   1567   103.83
Carolina Panthers   10   4   1637   1591   102.89
San Francisco Grizzlies   9   5   1701   1624   104.74
Santiago Cockerels   7   7   1675   1644   101.89
Anaheim Mighty Ducks    7   7   1596   1603   99.56
-------------------------------------------------------------
Houston Bombers   6   8   1578   1596   98.87
Ottawa Otters   6   8   1596   1635   97.61
New Brooklyn Hawks   6   8   1552   1623   95.56
Colorado Avalanche   4   10   1546   1596   96.87
Las Vegas Sinners   4   10   1437   1511   95.10
Quito Quetzals   4   10   1560   1653   94.37
Title: Re: Round 14 Thread (AFL Round 16)
Post by: powersuperkents on July 10, 2016, 09:12:12 PM
We live to fight another erratic day  :P

This is just getting too intense. I can barely watch, it's a lot of pressure being in the conflict zone (i.e. 5th to 9th)  :-\

Title: Re: Round 14 Thread (AFL Round 16)
Post by: T Dog on July 10, 2016, 09:15:56 PM
I am having a doubt   >:(  It just may be tricky for Colorado to finish top 4.  :-\