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Title: World Cup
Post by: Holz on July 16, 2013, 02:34:19 PM
Euro: Average 129.67 (Multiplier 102.9%)

Serbian Eagles       155.66
Swedish Metal      148.27
Russian Roulettes      145.84
Belarus Bison      142.85
Iceland Polar Bears      139.47
Macedonian Wolves      136.30
Belgain Bashers      136.11
Scotlands Savage Sons      133.02
English Lions      127.23
Vatican City Valkyries      125.26
Greek Titans      124.51
Spanish Stallions      122.64
Norwegian Trolls      119.83
Dutch Dinos      111.04

Worlds Average 133.38

Sao Paulo Pumas    153.62
Mexico City Suns    153.38
Buenos Aires Armadillos151.077
Toronto Wolves    142.23
Moscow Spetsnaz    140.69
Cairo Sands     137.62
Seoul Magpies    137.00
Cape Town Cobras    136.92
London Royals     136.31
Berlin Brewers    135.62
Dublin Destroyers    134.85
New York Revolution     134.54
PNL Reindeers    132.54
Tokyo Samurai    132.23
Pacific Islanders    113.92
New Delhi Tigers    110.85
Wellington Warriors    110.62
Beijing Thunder    106.85

Asian Average 173.11 (Multiplier 77.05%)

Mongolian Lambs   148.06
Bangladesh Bears   142.92
Manila Folders   142.54
Hongkong Dongs   139.12
Taiwon Dolphins   139.04
UAE Tigers                     137.41
Australian Ales   136.58
PNG Head Hunters   135.52
Srilanka Strikers   133.30
Turkey Gazelles   133.01
Laos Elephants   130.36
KL Crocodiles   126.37
Bangkok Crabs   124.99
Vietnam Vipers   123.41
Kathmandu Eskimos   122.20
Tibetan Llamas   119.30

British Avergae 153.79 (Multiplier 86.73%%

Bradford Badgers    146.08
Nottingham Hoods    142.86
Winchester Werewolves 141.93
Swansea Breakers    141.06
Birmingham Bombers    141.06
Hastings Hurricanes   140.19
Hebden Bridge Hedgehog139.70
Newcastle Falcons    138.95
Huddersfield Hawks    138.33
Oxford Owls    131.21
Staines Steins   129.91
Crosby Cruisers   128.30
Leeds Leaches    127.56
Manchester Magic    126.75
Bilston Bunnies    124.89
Swindon Swaggers    122.29
Grope Lane    121.05
Liverpool Lobsters    118.76


SEEDS

1.Serbian Eagles    155.66
2.Sao Paulo Pumas    153.62
3.Mexico City Suns    153.38
4.Buenos Aires Armadillos151.077
5.Swedish Metal   148.27
6.Mongolian Lambs   148.06
7.Bradford Badgers    146.08
8.Russian Roulettes   145.84
9.Bangladesh Bears   142.92
10.Nottingham Hoods    142.86
11.Belarus Bison   142.85
12.Manila Folders   142.54
13.Toronto Wolves    142.23
14.Winchester Werewolves 141.93
15.Swansea Breakers    141.06
16.Birmingham Bombers 141.06


Non-Seeded

Moscow Spetsnaz    140.69
Hastings Hurricanes   140.19
Hebden Bridge Hedgehogs 139.70
Iceland Polar Bears   139.47
Hongkong Dongs   139.12
Taiwon Dolphins   139.04
Newcastle Falcons    138.95
Huddersfield Hawks    138.33
Cairo Sands     137.62
UAE Tigers   137.41
Seoul Magpies    137.00
Cape Town Cobras    136.92
Australian Ales   136.58
London Royals     136.31
Macedonian Wolves   136.3
Belgain Bashers   136.11
Berlin Brewers    135.62
PNG Head Hunters   135.52
Dublin Destroyers    134.85
New York Revolution     134.54
Srilanka Strikers   133.30
Scotlands Savage Sons   133.02
Turkey Gazelles   133.01
PNL Reindeers    132.54
Tokyo Samurai    132.23
Oxford Owls    131.21
Laos Elephants   130.36
Staines Steins   129.91
Crosby Cruisers   128.30
Leeds Leaches    127.56
English Lions   127.23
Manchester Magic    126.75
KL Crocodiles   126.37
Vatican City Valkyries   125.26
Bangkok Crabs   124.99
Bilston Bunnies    124.89
Greek Titans                    124.51
Vietnam Vipers   123.41
Spanish Stallions   122.64
Swindon Swaggers    122.29
Kathmandu Eskimos   122.20
Grope Lane    121.05
Norwegian Trolls   119.83
Tibetan Llamas   119.30
Liverpool Lobsters    118.76
Pacific Islanders    113.92
Dutch Dinos                    111.04
New Delhi Tigers    110.85


Eliminated

Wellington Warriors    110.62
Beijing Thunder    106.85[/b]





Title: Re: World Cup
Post by: ossie85 on July 16, 2013, 02:36:31 PM

Awesome go Worlds! We have 18 teams, 14 of them good! Go team(s) :P
Title: Re: World Cup
Post by: Holz on July 16, 2013, 05:09:51 PM
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Title: Re: World Cup
Post by: Justin Bieber on July 16, 2013, 05:39:11 PM
Badgers will be around 150.
Title: Re: World Cup
Post by: BB67th on July 16, 2013, 05:44:18 PM
So this is a knockout comp yeah? Round 23 would be the last match?
Title: Re: World Cup
Post by: Justin Bieber on July 16, 2013, 05:46:08 PM
Do you put into perspective that Euros only has 14 teams so the talent is stronger? E.g. 14 teams best 15 will be stronger than Worlds 18 teams beat 15.

So Euros only play 210 players each week, Worlds play 270 players per week. Therefore, the strength of the Euros squads to be stronger.
Title: Re: World Cup
Post by: Holz on July 16, 2013, 05:47:15 PM
Quote from: BB67th on July 16, 2013, 05:44:18 PM
So this is a knockout comp yeah? Round 23 would be the last match?

thats correct.
Title: Re: World Cup
Post by: Holz on July 16, 2013, 05:48:59 PM
Quote from: whatlez on July 16, 2013, 05:46:08 PM
Do you put into perspective that Euros only has 14 teams so the talent is stronger? E.g. 14 teams best 15 will be stronger than Worlds 18 teams beat 15.

So Euros only play 210 players each week, Worlds play 270 players per week. Therefore, the strength of the Euros squads to be stronger.

the scaling takes care of all that. euro have stronger teams but DT is the lowest scoring game but at the end of the day thats what the 2.9% bonus is for. If the euro had 18 comps im sure the scaling would be 4-5%
Title: Re: World Cup
Post by: BB67th on July 16, 2013, 05:50:23 PM
Quote from: whatlez on July 16, 2013, 05:46:08 PM
Do you put into perspective that Euros only has 14 teams so the talent is stronger? E.g. 14 teams best 15 will be stronger than Worlds 18 teams beat 15.

So Euros only play 210 players each week, Worlds play 270 players per week. Therefore, the strength of the Euros squads to be stronger.
So therefore their scores so far this season are also higher. These gets balanced out through the percentage multiplier so that everyone theoretically is on a level playing field.
Title: Re: World Cup
Post by: BB67th on July 16, 2013, 05:51:07 PM
Quote from: Holzman on July 16, 2013, 05:47:15 PM
Quote from: BB67th on July 16, 2013, 05:44:18 PM
So this is a knockout comp yeah? Round 23 would be the last match?

thats correct.
Also, how does the seeding work? Is the top quarter seeded, and the rest random?
Title: Re: World Cup
Post by: Justin Bieber on July 16, 2013, 05:51:56 PM
Quote from: Holzman on July 16, 2013, 05:48:59 PM
Quote from: whatlez on July 16, 2013, 05:46:08 PM
Do you put into perspective that Euros only has 14 teams so the talent is stronger? E.g. 14 teams best 15 will be stronger than Worlds 18 teams beat 15.

So Euros only play 210 players each week, Worlds play 270 players per week. Therefore, the strength of the Euros squads to be stronger.

the scaling takes care of all that. euro have stronger teams but DT is the lowest scoring game but at the end of the day thats what the 2.9% bonus is for. If the euro had 18 comps im sure the scaling would be 4-5%

Okay cool, you've compensated for it. Badgers will be up there, but British will lose points.
Title: Re: World Cup
Post by: Toga on July 16, 2013, 05:54:36 PM
Nice work Holz! Get around the Lambs!!
Title: Re: World Cup
Post by: Holz on July 16, 2013, 06:02:28 PM
Quote from: BB67th on July 16, 2013, 05:51:07 PM
Quote from: Holzman on July 16, 2013, 05:47:15 PM
Quote from: BB67th on July 16, 2013, 05:44:18 PM
So this is a knockout comp yeah? Round 23 would be the last match?

thats correct.
Also, how does the seeding work? Is the top quarter seeded, and the rest random?

yeah im thinking 16 seeds than the rest random. Like in the tennis.
Title: Re: World Cup
Post by: KoopKicka on July 16, 2013, 06:21:16 PM
Quote from: Holzman on July 16, 2013, 06:02:28 PM
Quote from: BB67th on July 16, 2013, 05:51:07 PM
Quote from: Holzman on July 16, 2013, 05:47:15 PM
Quote from: BB67th on July 16, 2013, 05:44:18 PM
So this is a knockout comp yeah? Round 23 would be the last match?

thats correct.
Also, how does the seeding work? Is the top quarter seeded, and the rest random?

yeah im thinking 16 seeds than the rest random. Like in the tennis.

I like this idea.
Title: Re: World Cup
Post by: BB67th on July 16, 2013, 06:51:16 PM
Quote from: KoopKicka on July 16, 2013, 06:21:16 PM
Quote from: Holzman on July 16, 2013, 06:02:28 PM
Quote from: BB67th on July 16, 2013, 05:51:07 PM
Quote from: Holzman on July 16, 2013, 05:47:15 PM
Quote from: BB67th on July 16, 2013, 05:44:18 PM
So this is a knockout comp yeah? Round 23 would be the last match?

thats correct.
Also, how does the seeding work? Is the top quarter seeded, and the rest random?

yeah im thinking 16 seeds than the rest random. Like in the tennis.

I like this idea.
Yeah that sounds good.
Title: Re: World Cup
Post by: CrowsFan on July 16, 2013, 06:55:59 PM
Looks good :)

Those Eagles look very strong though! Hopefully my Pumas can get out of their form slump and get back to top form. Over the first 11 rounds I was averaging 156.64, but the last 3 rounds I've averaged just 138.67, a massive 18 points per game drop! :o
Title: Re: World Cup
Post by: Nige on July 16, 2013, 07:16:03 PM
Cairo are 17th on average. Gah. :P
Title: Re: World Cup
Post by: roo boys! on July 16, 2013, 07:21:10 PM
Quote from: NigeyS on July 16, 2013, 07:16:03 PM
Cairo are 17th on average. Gah. :P
Haha! Wonder if the Petrenko/Hutchings sagas would have made the difference :P

Happy with where the Wolves sit, not gonna take out the whole thing but if they could take out a few of the "big boys" that would be nice :)
Title: Re: World Cup
Post by: Adamant on July 16, 2013, 07:30:04 PM
When does this start?
Title: Re: World Cup
Post by: CrowsFan on July 16, 2013, 07:31:31 PM
Quote from: Adamant on July 16, 2013, 07:30:04 PM
When does this start?
This week
Title: Re: World Cup
Post by: Adamant on July 16, 2013, 07:34:10 PM
Quote from: CrowsFan on July 16, 2013, 07:31:31 PM
Quote from: Adamant on July 16, 2013, 07:30:04 PM
When does this start?
This week

Nice, cheers.
Title: Re: World Cup
Post by: tbagrocks on July 16, 2013, 07:40:10 PM
Llamas not bottom 5 ;D  Next year, top 5 :o
Title: Re: World Cup
Post by: Holz on July 16, 2013, 07:46:10 PM
Quote from: NigeyS on July 16, 2013, 07:16:03 PM
Cairo are 17th on average. Gah. :P

We still have British to come so you woukdnt have been seeded anyway. Just hope you don't draw the eagles first up.
Title: Re: World Cup
Post by: Toga on July 16, 2013, 07:58:45 PM
Quote from: tbagrocks on July 16, 2013, 07:40:10 PM
Llamas not bottom 5 ;D  Next year, top 5 :o

Nope! :P
Title: Re: World Cup
Post by: Ziplock on July 16, 2013, 08:19:41 PM
man, massive discrepancy in worlds averages.

4/5 of the bottom teams and 3/4 of the top teams.

I feel sorry for asia- their comp seems significantly the most even one, and subsequently they're disadvantaged :P
Title: Re: World Cup
Post by: Toga on July 16, 2013, 08:26:00 PM
You'll learn not to feel sorry for the Lambs ;)
Title: Re: World Cup
Post by: Nige on July 16, 2013, 09:14:50 PM
I'm actually really happy to be sitting in 17th (even without British). Our forward line isn't great, and we've had the sagas as RB mentioned. Oh... And now we have Beams back!  ;D
Title: Re: World Cup
Post by: Colliwobblers on July 16, 2013, 09:43:25 PM
awesome effort mate, well done, bring in the british and let the Asians show everyone where the future of the world lies....

Title: Re: World Cup
Post by: Colliwobblers on July 16, 2013, 09:45:35 PM
just thinking also Holz, it may make a bit of a difference to our AXVS scoring / ratings that we played over all 3 bye rounds, where i know British didn't not sure on worlds or Euros but obviously those three rounds took a toll on the average scores for our teams across the season.

not sure it matters just wondering what effect it might have across the 4 comps when working it all out ?
Title: Re: World Cup
Post by: Toga on July 16, 2013, 09:52:13 PM
Quote from: Colliwobblers on July 16, 2013, 09:45:35 PM
just thinking also Holz, it may make a bit of a difference to our AXVS scoring / ratings that we played over all 3 bye rounds, where i know British didn't not sure on worlds or Euros but obviously those three rounds took a toll on the average scores for our teams across the season.

not sure it matters just wondering what effect it might have across the 4 comps when working it all out ?

Yeah I got caned R12 :-X
Title: Re: World Cup
Post by: CrowsFan on July 16, 2013, 09:55:17 PM
Quote from: Colliwobblers on July 16, 2013, 09:45:35 PM
just thinking also Holz, it may make a bit of a difference to our AXVS scoring / ratings that we played over all 3 bye rounds, where i know British didn't not sure on worlds or Euros but obviously those three rounds took a toll on the average scores for our teams across the season.

not sure it matters just wondering what effect it might have across the 4 comps when working it all out ?
Think the only fair thing to do would be to ignore those 3 rounds from the teams averages. Otherwise the British teams will get a bigger boost in their scoring and make them better than the others...
Title: Re: World Cup
Post by: Holz on July 16, 2013, 09:56:20 PM
Quote from: Colliwobblers on July 16, 2013, 09:45:35 PM
just thinking also Holz, it may make a bit of a difference to our AXVS scoring / ratings that we played over all 3 bye rounds, where i know British didn't not sure on worlds or Euros but obviously those three rounds took a toll on the average scores for our teams across the season.

not sure it matters just wondering what effect it might have across the 4 comps when working it all out ?

Didn't know that. Euro isn't on and the world's combined round 11 and 12.  Will have to do it without the byes.
Title: Re: World Cup
Post by: KoopKicka on July 16, 2013, 11:57:45 PM
Quote from: Toga on July 16, 2013, 09:52:13 PM
Quote from: Colliwobblers on July 16, 2013, 09:45:35 PM
just thinking also Holz, it may make a bit of a difference to our AXVS scoring / ratings that we played over all 3 bye rounds, where i know British didn't not sure on worlds or Euros but obviously those three rounds took a toll on the average scores for our teams across the season.

not sure it matters just wondering what effect it might have across the 4 comps when working it all out ?

Yeah I got caned R12 :-X

who by I wonder? ;)
Title: Re: World Cup
Post by: Ziplock on July 17, 2013, 03:03:56 AM
Have to remove the bye rounds or it would completely skew the multiplier.
Title: Re: World Cup
Post by: Toga on July 17, 2013, 07:23:49 AM
Quote from: KoopKicka on July 16, 2013, 11:57:45 PM
who by I wonder? ;)

The bye, and a very lucky team! :P
Title: Re: World Cup
Post by: Justin Bieber on July 17, 2013, 07:58:18 AM
Yeah if Eagles played during the byes then they wouldn't be first
Title: Re: World Cup
Post by: Ringo on July 17, 2013, 09:39:09 AM
Apologies for my slackness guys was unaware we would be participating this year.  Have just sent British Points to date through to Holz. 

For information to date in order the top 6 points scores from British are:

Bradford Badgers
Nottingham Hoods
Winchester Warewolves
Birmingham Bombers
Swansea Breakers
Hastings Hurricanes
Title: Re: World Cup
Post by: ossie85 on July 17, 2013, 09:46:44 AM

Judging by the seeds - it really highlights the need for Worlds equalisation measures!


Note - a bonus 50,000 membership points for any World team that takes a dive against my Swaggers :P
Title: Re: World Cup
Post by: JBs-Hawks on July 17, 2013, 09:55:09 AM
Quote from: ossie85 on July 17, 2013, 09:46:44 AM

Judging by the seeds - it really highlights the need for Worlds equalisation measures!


Note - a bonus 50,000 membership points for any World team that takes a dive against my Swaggers :P
Ok alwyn davey will be my captain :P
Title: Re: World Cup
Post by: CrowsFan on July 17, 2013, 09:57:22 AM
Quote from: ossie85 on July 17, 2013, 09:46:44 AM

Judging by the seeds - it really highlights the need for Worlds equalisation measures!


Note - a bonus 50,000 membership points for any World team that takes a dive against my Swaggers :P
Talking about membership points, do I get any for winning the Champions league?
Title: Re: World Cup
Post by: Holz on July 17, 2013, 09:57:33 AM
Quote from: whatlez on July 17, 2013, 07:58:18 AM
Yeah if Eagles played during the byes then they wouldn't be first

actually given my depth I probably would have done better than most during the byes and could even be more infront. The thing in this comp I think is you need to be constatly putting out good scores.

If your one of these teams that goes 160 or 130 your in trouble, on your down day you will go out.
Title: Re: World Cup
Post by: ossie85 on July 17, 2013, 10:05:28 AM
Quote from: CrowsFan on July 17, 2013, 09:57:22 AM
Quote from: ossie85 on July 17, 2013, 09:46:44 AM

Judging by the seeds - it really highlights the need for Worlds equalisation measures!


Note - a bonus 50,000 membership points for any World team that takes a dive against my Swaggers :P
Talking about membership points, do I get any for winning the Champions league?

... No, but you get 5 points for each win :P
Title: Re: World Cup
Post by: CrowsFan on July 17, 2013, 10:26:33 AM
Quote from: ossie85 on July 17, 2013, 10:05:28 AM
Quote from: CrowsFan on July 17, 2013, 09:57:22 AM
Quote from: ossie85 on July 17, 2013, 09:46:44 AM

Judging by the seeds - it really highlights the need for Worlds equalisation measures!


Note - a bonus 50,000 membership points for any World team that takes a dive against my Swaggers :P
Talking about membership points, do I get any for winning the Champions league?

... No, but you get 5 points for each win :P
Well that's disappointing. Think about all the bandwaggon fans I would get for being the best team in the world!
Title: Re: World Cup
Post by: ossie85 on July 17, 2013, 10:57:05 AM

9 wins in this comp = 45 points already :) Don't be greedy!
Title: Re: World Cup
Post by: Nige on July 17, 2013, 01:08:48 PM
Quote from: ossie85 on July 17, 2013, 10:57:05 AM
Don't be greedy!

Too late for that, he already has 5 rucks.  >:(

Yes, so do Cairo... but ours aren't very good.

The Pumas can actually start 3 quality rucks if they wanted, while sometimes, I don't even want to start any of ours.  :(
Title: Re: World Cup
Post by: Holz on July 17, 2013, 01:50:25 PM
Quote from: ossie85 on July 16, 2013, 02:36:31 PM

Awesome go Worlds! We have 18 teams, 14 of them good! Go team(s) :P

16 now, 2 auto eliminated.
Title: Re: World Cup
Post by: Holz on July 17, 2013, 01:51:42 PM
In the seeds we have 4 Euro, 4 Worlds 3 Asian and 5 British.

seems pretty fair to me.

Anyone have issues with the scaling?
Title: Re: World Cup
Post by: ossie85 on July 17, 2013, 02:23:06 PM
Quote from: Holzman on July 17, 2013, 01:50:25 PM
Quote from: ossie85 on July 16, 2013, 02:36:31 PM

Awesome go Worlds! We have 18 teams, 14 of them good! Go team(s) :P

16 now, 2 auto eliminated.

hmmm, not entirely sure how I feel about that. But they do probably deserve it. If we had the time, could have been good to have 'qualifiers', but understand the difficulty. Might push that Beijing and Wellington get automatic qualification for next year's events? Might be pushing it..


Go the Swaggers!

And good stuff Holz... look forward to the fixture
Title: Re: World Cup
Post by: Holz on July 17, 2013, 02:26:42 PM
Quote from: ossie85 on July 17, 2013, 02:23:06 PM
Quote from: Holzman on July 17, 2013, 01:50:25 PM
Quote from: ossie85 on July 16, 2013, 02:36:31 PM

Awesome go Worlds! We have 18 teams, 14 of them good! Go team(s) :P

16 now, 2 auto eliminated.

hmmm, not entirely sure how I feel about that. But they do probably deserve it. If we had the time, could have been good to have 'qualifiers', but understand the difficulty. Might push that Beijing and Wellington get automatic qualification for next year's events? Might be pushing it..


Go the Swaggers!

And good stuff Holz... look forward to the fixture

the intention of the comp is a knockout. Realisticall the whole season has been a qualifcation to get into it. 64 out of the 66 teams get in.

Not sure about the auto qualify for next year, im reluctant as being the 65th and 66th teams in the XVs if they do it again I dont think they deserve to push a better team out.


Draw out soon
Title: Re: World Cup
Post by: Holz on July 17, 2013, 02:39:07 PM
Can anyone find a nice easy template where I can put in 64 teams?
Title: Re: World Cup
Post by: Toga on July 17, 2013, 03:03:25 PM
This (http://www.tennis.com.au/vic/files/2010/10/64-Draw.pdf) might work?
Title: Re: World Cup
Post by: Holz on July 17, 2013, 03:09:06 PM
Quote from: Toga on July 17, 2013, 03:03:25 PM
This (http://www.tennis.com.au/vic/files/2010/10/64-Draw.pdf) might work?

thanks toga, looking for one i can fill in on line though.
Title: Re: World Cup
Post by: Toga on July 17, 2013, 03:13:52 PM
Ah, right... I'll have a look for you! :)
Title: Re: World Cup
Post by: Toga on July 17, 2013, 03:18:55 PM
This (http://challonge.com/tournament/bracket_generator) should do the trick! 8)
Title: Re: World Cup
Post by: PowerBug on July 17, 2013, 03:32:49 PM
The two clubs i'm involved with ranked 17th and 18th.. :( Probably gonna get a top 10 seed now aswell.
Title: Re: World Cup
Post by: KoopKicka on July 17, 2013, 03:34:04 PM
how much Im praying that I dont get a seed :P
Title: Re: World Cup
Post by: ossie85 on July 17, 2013, 03:41:11 PM

You have to beat the seeds anyway, and if you beat them early, you inherit there draw.

Bring on the seeds!
Title: Re: World Cup
Post by: KoopKicka on July 17, 2013, 03:49:30 PM
Quote from: ossie85 on July 17, 2013, 03:41:11 PM

You have to beat the seeds anyway, and if you beat them early, you inherit there draw.

Bring on the seeds!

Not if you have shotty team you dont want to face the seeds early :P

Plus I need Ellard, Clarke and Maister back and Rioli to hit his straps again before Im confident to face a seed. :P
Title: Re: World Cup
Post by: PowerBug on July 17, 2013, 03:55:41 PM
When does this start? If it's this week then i hope i don't have a seed, as i'm missing Cornes and Dangerfield :( At least next week i get Cornes back. :D
Title: Re: World Cup
Post by: Toga on July 17, 2013, 04:01:05 PM
Missing Stevie J this week, y'all can't talk! :P

But should gain Houli, Dixon which will help.
Title: Re: World Cup
Post by: Adamant on July 17, 2013, 04:13:25 PM
We're currently missing Matthew Boyd, Beau Waters, Paul Duffield (should be back this week though) Shane Tuck, Brent Moloney and Daniel Cross.

But I suppose we've played most of the season without Boyd and Waters, and we haven't really had our best 15 all fit and firing yet...

Can't wait to see what we can do when that happens. >:D
Title: Re: World Cup
Post by: Justin Bieber on July 17, 2013, 04:59:51 PM
Did bye get taken out? But meh, Badgers will win :)
Title: Re: World Cup
Post by: roo boys! on July 17, 2013, 05:01:03 PM
Can't really speak for the other comps but a seeded team would be very unlucky to come up against Moscow or Dublin in the first round!
Title: Re: World Cup
Post by: KoopKicka on July 17, 2013, 05:09:07 PM
would also be very unlucky to come up against a Hong Kong or Taiwan.
Title: Re: World Cup
Post by: Holz on July 17, 2013, 05:10:55 PM
Quote from: roo boys! on July 17, 2013, 05:01:03 PM
Can't really speak for the other comps but a seeded team would be very unlucky to come up against Moscow or Dublin in the first round!

have done the draw. just working out making it look good.

the Spetnaz has drawn a low seed
the destroyers, hongkong havent.
taiwon has drawn a top 4 seed
Cape Town Cobras have drawn a top 4 seed
Title: Re: World Cup
Post by: Toga on July 17, 2013, 05:14:07 PM
Did you use that draw generator I posted? Work alright?
Title: Re: World Cup
Post by: Holz on July 17, 2013, 05:15:39 PM
Quote from: Toga on July 17, 2013, 05:14:07 PM
Did you use that draw generator I posted? Work alright?

ended up doing it by hand, but thanks anyway
Title: Re: World Cup
Post by: roo boys! on July 17, 2013, 05:16:29 PM
Quote from: Holzman on July 17, 2013, 05:10:55 PM
Quote from: roo boys! on July 17, 2013, 05:01:03 PM
Can't really speak for the other comps but a seeded team would be very unlucky to come up against Moscow or Dublin in the first round!

the Spetnaz has drawn a low seed

:-\ Ordinary last week but the man who no-one really knows what he does around there in Torp has promised to promote all of their dominant reserves players this week.

Seriously though, they're a bloody good side so hopefully it's not me haha

Would have much rather drawn Cape Town (Sorry MC :P)
Title: Re: World Cup
Post by: Holz on July 17, 2013, 05:21:57 PM
Quote from: roo boys! on July 17, 2013, 05:16:29 PM
Quote from: Holzman on July 17, 2013, 05:10:55 PM
Quote from: roo boys! on July 17, 2013, 05:01:03 PM
Can't really speak for the other comps but a seeded team would be very unlucky to come up against Moscow or Dublin in the first round!

the Spetnaz has drawn a low seed

:-\ Ordinary last week but the man who no-one really knows what he does around there in Torp has promised to promote all of their dominant reserves players this week.

Seriously though, they're a bloody good side so hopefully it's not me haha

Would have much rather drawn Cape Town (Sorry MC :P)

you have a good first round, a very dangerous non seed round 2, than your screwed
Title: Re: World Cup
Post by: roo boys! on July 17, 2013, 05:23:47 PM
Screwed = Eagles?

I'd be pretty happy to get through to the 3rd round I guess. Like I said I know I'm not shot at winning the whole thing....yet ;)
Title: Re: World Cup
Post by: Holz on July 17, 2013, 05:25:35 PM
Quote from: roo boys! on July 17, 2013, 05:23:47 PM
Screwed = Eagles?

I'd be pretty happy to get through to the 3rd round I guess. Like I said I know I'm not shot at winning the whole thing....yet ;)

Im not going to say no ;)
Title: Re: World Cup
Post by: KoopKicka on July 17, 2013, 05:44:21 PM
The Dillos are going to be knocked out first round.  ;D

Very unlucky to draw Taiwan though.
Title: Re: World Cup
Post by: Holz on July 17, 2013, 05:45:06 PM
The draw is up on the 1st page.

Eagles v Cobras,

Cobras a tricky round 1 oponent but I should have there measure.
Title: Re: World Cup
Post by: Toga on July 17, 2013, 05:48:44 PM
Grope Lane? Who are these peoples?

Will have to research them. :P
Title: Re: World Cup
Post by: PowerBug on July 17, 2013, 05:49:14 PM
Just remembered that i'm an assistant of the Metal, not the Spetsnaz ::) And the metal might meet by British team the Hurricanes in Rd 2 :O
Title: Re: World Cup
Post by: Ricochet on July 17, 2013, 06:01:10 PM
Got the Folders covered  ;)
Title: Re: World Cup
Post by: Adamant on July 17, 2013, 06:03:57 PM
Good to have a bye this week. :)
Title: Re: World Cup
Post by: Holz on July 17, 2013, 06:04:56 PM
Quote from: Adamant on July 17, 2013, 06:03:57 PM
Good to have a bye this week. :)

your trolls sure dont, the Bisons are tough
Title: Re: World Cup
Post by: ossie85 on July 17, 2013, 06:06:08 PM
Ah, crap. Maca, how do those points sound :P swaggers did score well though last week
Title: Re: World Cup
Post by: Torpedo10 on July 17, 2013, 06:06:43 PM
2 of my teams, Manchester and Spain face off round 1.  ::)
Title: Re: World Cup
Post by: Holz on July 17, 2013, 06:07:53 PM
Quote from: Torpedo10 on July 17, 2013, 06:06:43 PM
2 of my teams, Manchester and Spain face off round 1.  ::)

at least 1 will make it to the next round
Title: Re: World Cup
Post by: Adamant on July 17, 2013, 06:13:08 PM
Quote from: Holzman on July 17, 2013, 06:04:56 PM
Quote from: Adamant on July 17, 2013, 06:03:57 PM
Good to have a bye this week. :)

your trolls sure dont, the Bisons are tough

Yeah, I was talking about the Bears. The Trolls are a write-off this year, I've only just taken over and haven't done any trading yet!
Title: Re: World Cup
Post by: Nige on July 17, 2013, 06:26:47 PM
Cairo have the 5th seeded Metal.

Chill guys, we got dis.  ;)
Title: Re: World Cup
Post by: tbagrocks on July 17, 2013, 06:37:35 PM
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAndddddddddddddd so the banter begins!

http://forum.fanfooty.com.au/index.php/topic,62863.15.html

;D
Title: Re: World Cup
Post by: Purple 77 on July 17, 2013, 06:44:01 PM
The Winchester Wolves huh?

(without looking at their team)

Piece of cake!

I play to types of wolves then this week, Winchester and Toronto in Worlds  :-\
Title: Re: World Cup
Post by: Holz on July 17, 2013, 06:48:52 PM
Quote from: Purple 77 on July 17, 2013, 06:44:01 PM
The Winchester Wolves huh?

(without looking at their team)

Piece of cake!

I play to types of wolves then this week, Winchester and Toronto in Worlds  :-\

actually the warewolves just couldnt fit the name in
Title: Re: World Cup
Post by: BB67th on July 17, 2013, 06:50:54 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on July 17, 2013, 06:01:10 PM
Got the Folders covered  ;)
Good for Manila to start off with an easy win.
Title: Re: World Cup
Post by: tbagrocks on July 17, 2013, 07:05:15 PM
Quote from: BB67th on July 17, 2013, 06:50:54 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on July 17, 2013, 06:01:10 PM
Got the Folders covered  ;)
Good for Manila to start off with an easy win.
Folders AXV favs, will cause damage here too!
Title: Re: World Cup
Post by: nrich102 on July 17, 2013, 07:29:39 PM
Tough start against Moscow :(
Title: Re: World Cup
Post by: KoopKicka on July 17, 2013, 07:31:29 PM
Quote from: nrich102 on July 17, 2013, 07:29:39 PM
Tough start against Moscow :(

then you face the wrath of the Eskimos :P
Title: Re: World Cup
Post by: Toga on July 17, 2013, 07:32:50 PM
Quote from: tbagrocks on July 17, 2013, 07:05:15 PM
Quote from: BB67th on July 17, 2013, 06:50:54 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on July 17, 2013, 06:01:10 PM
Got the Folders covered  ;)
Good for Manila to start off with an easy win.
Folders AXV favs, will cause damage here too!

Where is the love for the Lambies Bagdaddy? ;)
Title: Re: World Cup
Post by: tbagrocks on July 17, 2013, 08:10:51 PM
Yes top 4 in Asia is highly competitive but you will all know I've been a Folder fan since early AXV

Good luck Togs you got my support!
Title: Re: World Cup
Post by: Colliwobblers on July 17, 2013, 08:33:01 PM
Quote from: Purple 77 on July 17, 2013, 06:44:01 PM
The Winchester Wolves huh?

(without looking at their team)

Piece of cake!

I play to types of wolves then this week, Winchester and Toronto in Worlds  :-\

The Winchester Werewolves, poor scores and losses 3 out of the first 5 rounds with several injured premiums, every game since we have summarily devoured the opposition and 9 or 10 wins straight, we don't even remember how to spell lose :)

(if we want to know how to spell it we can always ask our brother club in Asia, the hapless Vipers, they got lose covered  ::) )

Not the star power of some teams but plenty of bite.... 

Top of the ladder but seeded below 2 other British teams, shows we are consistent but lack star captain scoring still, we will hold our own...
Title: Re: World Cup
Post by: Ziplock on July 17, 2013, 09:10:03 PM
What the valkyries lack in scoring potential, we make up for in depth


mwhahahahahahaahahahahaha.


WE'RE GOING TO EAT YA'LL!
Title: Re: World Cup
Post by: Holz on July 17, 2013, 09:11:20 PM
Quote from: Ziplock on July 17, 2013, 09:10:03 PM
What the valkyries lack in scoring potential, we make up for in depth


mwhahahahahahaahahahahaha.


WE'RE GOING TO EAT YA'LL!

You sure have me covered in the depth of bench standard  players department. The whole team is basically bench players.
Title: Re: World Cup
Post by: Ziplock on July 18, 2013, 03:40:22 AM
you just wait, my boys have been taking it easy to lure you all into a false sense of security.
Title: Re: World Cup
Post by: Justin Bieber on July 18, 2013, 08:24:09 AM
Yeow my Asian vs my Euros team ;D

And Badgers vs Bashers. They could pull out a great score :S
Title: Re: World Cup
Post by: Purple 77 on July 18, 2013, 10:31:49 AM
Quote from: Colliwobblers on July 17, 2013, 08:33:01 PM
Quote from: Purple 77 on July 17, 2013, 06:44:01 PM
The Winchester Wolves huh?

(without looking at their team)

Piece of cake!

I play to types of wolves then this week, Winchester and Toronto in Worlds  :-\

The Winchester Werewolves, poor scores and losses 3 out of the first 5 rounds with several injured premiums, every game since we have summarily devoured the opposition and 9 or 10 wins straight, we don't even remember how to spell lose :)

(if we want to know how to spell it we can always ask our brother club in Asia, the hapless Vipers, they got lose covered  ::) )

Not the star power of some teams but plenty of bite.... 

Top of the ladder but seeded below 2 other British teams, shows we are consistent but lack star captain scoring still, we will hold our own...

Haha, that is also a good summary of my team... not really any star power, but can pull out big scores every so often.

Let the games begin I say!
Title: Re: World Cup
Post by: roo boys! on July 18, 2013, 04:23:58 PM
Quote from: Purple 77 on July 18, 2013, 10:31:49 AM
Quote from: Colliwobblers on July 17, 2013, 08:33:01 PM
Quote from: Purple 77 on July 17, 2013, 06:44:01 PM
The Winchester Wolves huh?

(without looking at their team)

Piece of cake!

I play to types of wolves then this week, Winchester and Toronto in Worlds  :-\

The Winchester Werewolves, poor scores and losses 3 out of the first 5 rounds with several injured premiums, every game since we have summarily devoured the opposition and 9 or 10 wins straight, we don't even remember how to spell lose :)

(if we want to know how to spell it we can always ask our brother club in Asia, the hapless Vipers, they got lose covered  ::) )

Not the star power of some teams but plenty of bite.... 

Top of the ladder but seeded below 2 other British teams, shows we are consistent but lack star captain scoring still, we will hold our own...

Haha, that is also a good summary of my team... not really any star power, but can pull out big scores every so often.

Let the games begin I say!
6 months ago Buddy was THE star power :P
Title: Re: World Cup
Post by: Holz on July 18, 2013, 04:26:12 PM
Quote from: roo boys! on July 18, 2013, 04:23:58 PM
Quote from: Purple 77 on July 18, 2013, 10:31:49 AM
Quote from: Colliwobblers on July 17, 2013, 08:33:01 PM
Quote from: Purple 77 on July 17, 2013, 06:44:01 PM
The Winchester Wolves huh?

(without looking at their team)

Piece of cake!

I play to types of wolves then this week, Winchester and Toronto in Worlds  :-\

The Winchester Werewolves, poor scores and losses 3 out of the first 5 rounds with several injured premiums, every game since we have summarily devoured the opposition and 9 or 10 wins straight, we don't even remember how to spell lose :)

(if we want to know how to spell it we can always ask our brother club in Asia, the hapless Vipers, they got lose covered  ::) )

Not the star power of some teams but plenty of bite.... 

Top of the ladder but seeded below 2 other British teams, shows we are consistent but lack star captain scoring still, we will hold our own...

Haha, that is also a good summary of my team... not really any star power, but can pull out big scores every so often.

Let the games begin I say!
6 months ago Buddy was THE star power :P

to think I was willing to give away a large chunck of my stars to get him. Im going for him in the Euro and Worlds again but my offer just dropped alot.
Title: Re: World Cup
Post by: Purple 77 on July 18, 2013, 05:04:27 PM
Quote from: roo boys! on July 18, 2013, 04:23:58 PM
Quote from: Purple 77 on July 18, 2013, 10:31:49 AM
Quote from: Colliwobblers on July 17, 2013, 08:33:01 PM
Quote from: Purple 77 on July 17, 2013, 06:44:01 PM
The Winchester Wolves huh?

(without looking at their team)

Piece of cake!

I play to types of wolves then this week, Winchester and Toronto in Worlds  :-\

The Winchester Werewolves, poor scores and losses 3 out of the first 5 rounds with several injured premiums, every game since we have summarily devoured the opposition and 9 or 10 wins straight, we don't even remember how to spell lose :)

(if we want to know how to spell it we can always ask our brother club in Asia, the hapless Vipers, they got lose covered  ::) )

Not the star power of some teams but plenty of bite.... 

Top of the ladder but seeded below 2 other British teams, shows we are consistent but lack star captain scoring still, we will hold our own...

Haha, that is also a good summary of my team... not really any star power, but can pull out big scores every so often.

Let the games begin I say!
6 months ago Buddy was THE star power :P

Sigh, I was thinking that when I typed that  ::)  :'(

Quote from: Holzman on July 18, 2013, 04:26:12 PM
to think I was willing to give away a large chunck of my stars to get him. Im going for him in the Euro and Worlds again but my offer just dropped alot.

Still gonna take quite a bit, have no doubt he'll average 100+ with the Giants  :P
Title: Re: World Cup
Post by: tbagrocks on July 18, 2013, 05:34:21 PM
Quote from: tbagrocks on July 17, 2013, 06:37:35 PM
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAndddddddddddddd so the banter begins!

http://forum.fanfooty.com.au/index.php/topic,62863.15.html

;D
Sorry I got mixed up with the Islanders :P

Llamas playing here, check out the banter ;D
http://forum.fanfooty.com.au/index.php/topic,44939.msg1160773.html#new
Title: Re: World Cup
Post by: Holz on July 18, 2013, 05:43:47 PM
Quote from: tbagrocks on July 18, 2013, 05:34:21 PM
Quote from: tbagrocks on July 17, 2013, 06:37:35 PM
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAndddddddddddddd so the banter begins!

http://forum.fanfooty.com.au/index.php/topic,62863.15.html

;D
Sorry I got mixed up with the Islanders :P

Llamas playing here, check out the banter ;D
http://forum.fanfooty.com.au/index.php/topic,44939.msg1160773.html#new

you might want to have a good team before you start up the banter ;)

The Rusians are beasts they have this in the bag.
Title: Re: World Cup
Post by: tbagrocks on July 18, 2013, 05:51:54 PM
Nothing scares a Llama ;)

Bit like AJ taunting Kaitlyn ;D
Title: Re: World Cup
Post by: kilbluff1985 on July 18, 2013, 07:09:51 PM
Bombers score suffering due to Murphy as captain most of the year
Title: Re: World Cup
Post by: Nails on July 19, 2013, 09:30:15 AM
Congrats on upsetting 4th Seed Armadillos this weekend Dolphins.

Very nice win and huge upset seeing 4th seed eliminated early.
Title: Re: World Cup
Post by: Toga on July 19, 2013, 11:47:26 AM
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on July 18, 2013, 07:09:51 PM
Bombers score suffering due to Murphy as captain most of the year

Yeah same with us we got his 20-odd when Hodge KO'ed him ::) :(
Title: Re: World Cup
Post by: Holz on July 19, 2013, 11:53:15 AM
Dublin is in real trouble this week with only 3 backman playing.

watch out for this team, here is the eagles squad (you dont need to post sqauds here). This Includes Boyd, Swallow out of the squad and Sandi warming up on the bench.

Backs:  B.Gibbs, B.Goddard, H.Shaw, N.Malceski
Mids:   S.Pendlebury (C), R.Douglas,  B.Deledio, M.Barlow (VC)
Ruck    T.Goldstien
Forwards T.Cloke, M.Lecras, B.Harvey, D.Petrie
Utilities A.Walker, K.Simpson
Title: Re: World Cup
Post by: ossie85 on July 19, 2013, 12:19:07 PM
Quote from: Holzman on July 19, 2013, 11:53:15 AM
(you dont need to post sqauds here).

That will change though I assume when teams don't make the finals/eliminated/bye after Round 19?
Title: Re: World Cup
Post by: Holz on July 19, 2013, 12:24:08 PM
Quote from: ossie85 on July 19, 2013, 12:19:07 PM
Quote from: Holzman on July 19, 2013, 11:53:15 AM
(you dont need to post sqauds here).

That will change though I assume when teams don't make the finals/eliminated/bye after Round 19?

thats correct. hmm didnt think of that looks like I will have to do the scores for those games. More time than i thought. Still you woudl think alot of those teams will be eliminated.
Title: Re: World Cup
Post by: ossie85 on July 19, 2013, 12:38:22 PM

Yeah, most will be eliminated for sure. But some of the contenders are likely to get a week 2 finals bye also.

I'm happy to do the Worlds scores Holz
Title: Re: World Cup
Post by: Holz on July 19, 2013, 12:40:44 PM
Quote from: ossie85 on July 19, 2013, 12:38:22 PM

Yeah, most will be eliminated for sure. But some of the contenders are likely to get a week 2 finals bye also.

I'm happy to do the Worlds scores Holz

would be much appreciated ossie. Spink/I will do the euro anyway. I dont mind doing the Asian/British i assume there will be under 10 squads left who arent playing that week.
Title: Re: World Cup
Post by: Nige on July 19, 2013, 01:26:39 PM
Quote from: Holzman on July 19, 2013, 11:53:15 AM
Dublin is in real trouble this week with only 3 backman playing.

watch out for this team, here is the eagles squad (you dont need to post sqauds here). This Includes Boyd, Swallow out of the squad and Sandi warming up on the bench.

Backs:  B.Gibbs, B.Goddard, H.Shaw, N.Malceski
Mids:   S.Pendlebury (C), R.Douglas,  B.Deledio, M.Barlow (VC)
Ruck    T.Goldstien
Forwards T.Cloke, M.Lecras, B.Harvey, D.Petrie
Utilities A.Walker, K.Simpson

Holy shower, you must have trade raped some poor lads to get a team like that...  :o
Title: Re: World Cup
Post by: kilbluff1985 on July 19, 2013, 01:33:18 PM
Lol that teams insane Dafuq
Title: Re: World Cup
Post by: Holz on July 19, 2013, 01:34:38 PM
Quote from: NigeyS on July 19, 2013, 01:26:39 PM
Quote from: Holzman on July 19, 2013, 11:53:15 AM
Dublin is in real trouble this week with only 3 backman playing.

watch out for this team, here is the eagles squad (you dont need to post sqauds here). This Includes Boyd, Swallow out of the squad and Sandi warming up on the bench.

Backs:  B.Gibbs, B.Goddard, H.Shaw, N.Malceski
Mids:   S.Pendlebury (C), R.Douglas,  B.Deledio, M.Barlow (VC)
Ruck    T.Goldstien
Forwards T.Cloke, M.Lecras, B.Harvey, D.Petrie
Utilities A.Walker, K.Simpson

Holy shower, you must have trade raped some poor lads to get a team like that...  :o

I did have a pretty good team last year that got hit by mass injuries which resulted in me getting the spoon and mass picks. Douglas i picked up in the rookie draft. Goddard i got before he moved clubs for my 2nd round pick in mumford + extra stuff.

Goldy i picked up cheap for Shuey + extra when he was averaging only 78. Gibbs was my first round pick so him getting DPP really helped.

got pendles for cotchin which at the time people said I was losing out in the trade


I did trade away alot of youth and have no bench I lost JOM!!!! , Shiel, Coniglio, Ellis, Polec, Knights, Brodie Smith, Shuey to get guys like Shaw and Lids.

basically guys like eski, cloke, gibbs, lecras massively imrpvoed from the year before.

and guys i brougth in Goddard, Shaw, Goldy,Walker,Boomer all are doing better than i thougth they would,
Title: Re: World Cup
Post by: Nige on July 19, 2013, 01:37:48 PM
Quote from: Holzman on July 19, 2013, 01:34:38 PM
Quote from: NigeyS on July 19, 2013, 01:26:39 PM
Quote from: Holzman on July 19, 2013, 11:53:15 AM
Dublin is in real trouble this week with only 3 backman playing.

watch out for this team, here is the eagles squad (you dont need to post sqauds here). This Includes Boyd, Swallow out of the squad and Sandi warming up on the bench.

Backs:  B.Gibbs, B.Goddard, H.Shaw, N.Malceski
Mids:   S.Pendlebury (C), R.Douglas,  B.Deledio, M.Barlow (VC)
Ruck    T.Goldstien
Forwards T.Cloke, M.Lecras, B.Harvey, D.Petrie
Utilities A.Walker, K.Simpson

Holy shower, you must have trade raped some poor lads to get a team like that...  :o

I did have a pretty good team last year that got hit by mass injuries which resulted in me getting the spoon and mass picks. Douglas i picked up in the rookie draft. Goddard i got before he moved clubs for my 2nd round pick in mumford + extra stuff.

Goldy i picked up cheap for Shuey + extra when he was averaging only 78. Gibbs was my first round pick so him getting DPP really helped.

got pendles for cotchin which at the time people said I was losing out in the trade


I did trade away alot of youth and have no bench I lost JOM!!!! , Shiel, Coniglio, Ellis, Polec, Knights, Brodie Smith, Shuey

So it sounds like you did some pretty productive things in the off-season. But damn, some of those names that were traded away could have been handy.
Title: Re: World Cup
Post by: Adamant on July 19, 2013, 01:44:32 PM
Quote from: Holzman on July 19, 2013, 01:34:38 PM
Quote from: NigeyS on July 19, 2013, 01:26:39 PM
Quote from: Holzman on July 19, 2013, 11:53:15 AM
Dublin is in real trouble this week with only 3 backman playing.

watch out for this team, here is the eagles squad (you dont need to post sqauds here). This Includes Boyd, Swallow out of the squad and Sandi warming up on the bench.

Backs:  B.Gibbs, B.Goddard, H.Shaw, N.Malceski
Mids:   S.Pendlebury (C), R.Douglas,  B.Deledio, M.Barlow (VC)
Ruck    T.Goldstien
Forwards T.Cloke, M.Lecras, B.Harvey, D.Petrie
Utilities A.Walker, K.Simpson

Holy shower, you must have trade raped some poor lads to get a team like that...  :o

I did have a pretty good team last year that got hit by mass injuries which resulted in me getting the spoon and mass picks. Douglas i picked up in the rookie draft. Goddard i got before he moved clubs for my 2nd round pick in mumford + extra stuff.

Goldy i picked up cheap for Shuey + extra when he was averaging only 78. Gibbs was my first round pick so him getting DPP really helped.

got pendles for cotchin which at the time people said I was losing out in the trade

I did trade away alot of youth and have no bench I lost JOM!!!! , Shiel, Coniglio, Ellis, Polec, Knights, Brodie Smith, Shuey to get guys like Shaw and Lids.

basically guys like eski, cloke, gibbs, lecras massively imrpvoed from the year before.

and guys i brougth in Goddard, Shaw, Goldy,Walker,Boomer all are doing better than i thougth they would,

That was a massive win for you all along. Cotchin was coming off a breakout season (Rockliff anyone?) and Pendles is always a safe 115+ average...

Damn it pickers, now I'm left with Cotchin instead of Pendles. ::)

Hard to believe that's your team without Boyd, and to a lesser extent Sandi. Unbelievable.
Title: Re: World Cup
Post by: Holz on July 19, 2013, 01:53:17 PM
Quote from: Adamant on July 19, 2013, 01:44:32 PM
Quote from: Holzman on July 19, 2013, 01:34:38 PM

got pendles for cotchin which at the time people said I was losing out in the trade


That was a massive win for you all along. Cotchin was coming off a breakout season (Rockliff anyone?) and Pendles is always a safe 115+ average...

Damn it pickers, now I'm left with Cotchin instead of Pendles. ::)


At the time is was really 50/50. Pendles coming off an injury year i thought he was good for a 113-116, he is beating my expectation this year. Cotchin was coming off a 120 in the second half of the season and people were talking about him being the new swan.

was worried about a come down, he hasnt switched roles like rocky did though, at worst i was thinking 108+
Title: Re: World Cup
Post by: Ziplock on July 19, 2013, 02:23:52 PM
I was a bit iffy on that trade, and I dunno if I would have done it in that situation-  I did think the security of pendles scoring  dominated cotchin though :P
Title: Re: World Cup
Post by: KoopKicka on July 19, 2013, 02:24:24 PM
I look at that team and Im sitting here with Caolan Mooney at U2 :P
Title: Re: World Cup
Post by: Holz on July 19, 2013, 02:35:31 PM
Quote from: Ziplock on July 19, 2013, 02:23:52 PM
I was a bit iffy on that trade, and I dunno if I would have done it in that situation-  I did think the security of pendles scoring  dominated cotchin though :P

yeah the safety of pendles was what i was after, I was well aware that cotchin could have kept his form up and at 23 coming off a 120 second half the trade definately wasnt one sided. I had quite a few people tell me that I was crazy trading away cotchin.

I didnt expect this differential though, I assumed they would have scored within 5 points of each other.
Title: Re: World Cup
Post by: Hawka on July 19, 2013, 02:54:06 PM
gonna be hard for the Dino's to gain the win
Title: Re: World Cup
Post by: Colliwobblers on July 19, 2013, 03:03:11 PM
Quote from: Holzman on July 19, 2013, 11:53:15 AM
Dublin is in real trouble this week with only 3 backman playing.

watch out for this team, here is the eagles squad (you dont need to post sqauds here). This Includes Boyd, Swallow out of the squad and Sandi warming up on the bench.

Backs:  B.Gibbs, B.Goddard, H.Shaw, N.Malceski
Mids:   S.Pendlebury (C), R.Douglas,  B.Deledio, M.Barlow (VC)
Ruck    T.Goldstien
Forwards T.Cloke, M.Lecras, B.Harvey, D.Petrie
Utilities A.Walker, K.Simpson

that has to be the most ridiculous team in all 4 comps, looks like there must be only 4 teams in the comp.....

all premiums every line, how did that happen?  and 3 more premiums not in the starting 15....
Title: Re: World Cup
Post by: KoopKicka on July 19, 2013, 03:03:50 PM
Quote from: Colliwobblers on July 19, 2013, 03:03:11 PM
Quote from: Holzman on July 19, 2013, 11:53:15 AM
Dublin is in real trouble this week with only 3 backman playing.

watch out for this team, here is the eagles squad (you dont need to post sqauds here). This Includes Boyd, Swallow out of the squad and Sandi warming up on the bench.

Backs:  B.Gibbs, B.Goddard, H.Shaw, N.Malceski
Mids:   S.Pendlebury (C), R.Douglas,  B.Deledio, M.Barlow (VC)
Ruck    T.Goldstien
Forwards T.Cloke, M.Lecras, B.Harvey, D.Petrie
Utilities A.Walker, K.Simpson

that has to be the most ridiculous team in all 4 comps, looks like there must be only 4 teams in the comp.....

all premiums every line, how did that happen?  and 3 more premiums not in the starting 15....

looking at all the other teams this is just ridiculous tbh.
Title: Re: World Cup
Post by: PowerBug on July 19, 2013, 03:06:11 PM
And that, my friends, is why there should always be a cap on trading.
Title: Re: World Cup
Post by: CrowsFan on July 19, 2013, 03:09:50 PM
So who are these Huddersfield Hawks then?
Title: Re: World Cup
Post by: Nige on July 19, 2013, 03:10:31 PM
Quote from: PowerBug on July 19, 2013, 03:06:11 PM
And that, my friends, is why there should always be a cap on trading.
Haha bloody oath.
Title: Re: World Cup
Post by: Justin Bieber on July 19, 2013, 03:20:35 PM
Quote from: Colliwobblers on July 19, 2013, 03:03:11 PM
Quote from: Holzman on July 19, 2013, 11:53:15 AM
Dublin is in real trouble this week with only 3 backman playing.

watch out for this team, here is the eagles squad (you dont need to post sqauds here). This Includes Boyd, Swallow out of the squad and Sandi warming up on the bench.

Backs:  B.Gibbs, B.Goddard, H.Shaw, N.Malceski
Mids:   S.Pendlebury (C), R.Douglas,  B.Deledio, M.Barlow (VC)
Ruck    T.Goldstien
Forwards T.Cloke, M.Lecras, B.Harvey, D.Petrie
Utilities A.Walker, K.Simpson

that has to be the most ridiculous team in all 4 comps, looks like there must be only 4 teams in the comp.....

all premiums every line, how did that happen?  and 3 more premiums not in the starting 15....
Well there are only 14 teams not 16 or 18. But last year he had spuds like Lecras, Cloke, Malceski etc and now they are good.
Title: Re: World Cup
Post by: Holz on July 19, 2013, 03:23:44 PM
Quote from: Colliwobblers on July 19, 2013, 03:03:11 PM
Quote from: Holzman on July 19, 2013, 11:53:15 AM
Dublin is in real trouble this week with only 3 backman playing.

watch out for this team, here is the eagles squad (you dont need to post sqauds here). This Includes Boyd, Swallow out of the squad and Sandi warming up on the bench.

Backs:  B.Gibbs, B.Goddard, H.Shaw, N.Malceski
Mids:   S.Pendlebury (C), R.Douglas,  B.Deledio, M.Barlow (VC)
Ruck    T.Goldstien
Forwards T.Cloke, M.Lecras, B.Harvey, D.Petrie
Utilities A.Walker, K.Simpson

that has to be the most ridiculous team in all 4 comps, looks like there must be only 4 teams in the comp.....

all premiums every line, how did that happen?  and 3 more premiums not in the starting 15....

this is how it happend.

Malceski last year was a 72 average player this year 89 +12
Douglas last year was a 72 avergae player this year 101 +29
Cloke last year was a 75 average player this year 95 +20
Walker last year was a 75 avergae player this year 82 +7
barlow last year was a 96 average player this year 110 +14
goldy last year was a 79 average player this year 89 + 10

from my starting 15 this week only Lids and Simpson have gone down on averages, the other 12 (minus lecras) have gone up on average 9.8 points.

its simple alot of guys who where average last year became premo. If guys like Eski, Douglas, Walker etc.. didnt break out than I wouldnt be looking anywhere near as strong.
Title: Re: World Cup
Post by: Colliwobblers on July 19, 2013, 03:53:28 PM
ok ill give you the others but almost anyone would have known cloke barlow and goldy would return to genuine premium status ;)

malceski was always capable of this but admitably had to wonder if "this year" would ever happen....

walker and douglas were just smart moves

no complaints from me, trading is part of the game, some do it well others not so well, but it will be a long time before anyone rivals this team.......

well done :)  I'm jealous is all .!
Title: Re: World Cup
Post by: Adamant on July 19, 2013, 04:16:32 PM
Just found when Holz' picked Douglas in the rookie draft. Some of the replies are gold. ;D

Quote from: Holzman on December 30, 2012, 02:20:43 PM
Richard Douglas,

82 average without the subs will come in handy if he can average 85+ 

I only have Pearce on the bench than it goes to omeara i think douglas can outscore omeara.

Quote from: Adamant on January 05, 2013, 10:04:07 PM
I just got back from a holiday, and checked the last few picks. A bit of a delayed reply, but oh well lol. :P

Douglas - a 25 year old who averaged 82 without subs and close to 90 back in 2010 is a massive steal at pick #79. He could even be a chance for DPP down the track too. Nice.

8)

Quote from: picker_man on January 06, 2013, 06:52:14 AM
hahah dont think that surprise will come Holz, Douglas will struggle to ave 80+ imo. He's no longer a midfielder we have plenty of younger better players ahead of him in there and his role played as a HF last year wont see him have much value in Euro's unless he gets DPP in future yrs. A 26 yr old mid (when season starts) who has never ave over 88, is always going to be a sub candidate for us and has had two lenghty injuries keeping him out for 7 & 6 weeks in past two seasons, in comparision to some of the younger guys taken around #79  dont really see why this pick would be singled out.......

Haha good prediction pickers.

Quote from: whatlez on January 06, 2013, 05:09:53 PM
Douglas, spud. Won't make Adelaide team or will be sub. Nuff said, reasons why he slipped.

Even better lol.
Title: Re: World Cup
Post by: Holz on July 19, 2013, 04:18:08 PM
Quote from: Colliwobblers on July 19, 2013, 03:53:28 PM
ok ill give you the others but almost anyone would have known cloke barlow and goldy would return to genuine premium status ;)


haha lez didnt. However this was before Hmac was traded.
Title: Re: World Cup
Post by: roo boys! on July 19, 2013, 04:25:27 PM
Quote from: Holzman on July 19, 2013, 03:23:44 PM
Quote from: Colliwobblers on July 19, 2013, 03:03:11 PM
Quote from: Holzman on July 19, 2013, 11:53:15 AM
Dublin is in real trouble this week with only 3 backman playing.

watch out for this team, here is the eagles squad (you dont need to post sqauds here). This Includes Boyd, Swallow out of the squad and Sandi warming up on the bench.

Backs:  B.Gibbs, B.Goddard, H.Shaw, N.Malceski
Mids:   S.Pendlebury (C), R.Douglas,  B.Deledio, M.Barlow (VC)
Ruck    T.Goldstien
Forwards T.Cloke, M.Lecras, B.Harvey, D.Petrie
Utilities A.Walker, K.Simpson

that has to be the most ridiculous team in all 4 comps, looks like there must be only 4 teams in the comp.....

all premiums every line, how did that happen?  and 3 more premiums not in the starting 15....

this is how it happend.

Malceski last year was a 72 average player this year 89 +12
Douglas last year was a 72 avergae player this year 101 +29
Cloke last year was a 75 average player this year 95 +20
Walker last year was a 75 avergae player this year 82 +7
barlow last year was a 96 average player this year 110 +14
goldy last year was a 79 average player this year 89 + 10

from my starting 15 this week only Lids and Simpson have gone down on averages, the other 12 (minus lecras) have gone up on average 9.8 points.

its simple alot of guys who where average last year became premo. If guys like Eski, Douglas, Walker etc.. didnt break out than I wouldnt be looking anywhere near as strong.
That's sensational Holz! Great work.
Title: Re: World Cup
Post by: Ziplock on July 19, 2013, 04:50:55 PM
Quote from: Colliwobblers on July 19, 2013, 03:03:11 PM
Quote from: Holzman on July 19, 2013, 11:53:15 AM
Dublin is in real trouble this week with only 3 backman playing.

watch out for this team, here is the eagles squad (you dont need to post sqauds here). This Includes Boyd, Swallow out of the squad and Sandi warming up on the bench.

Backs:  B.Gibbs, B.Goddard, H.Shaw, N.Malceski
Mids:   S.Pendlebury (C), R.Douglas,  B.Deledio, M.Barlow (VC)
Ruck    T.Goldstien
Forwards T.Cloke, M.Lecras, B.Harvey, D.Petrie
Utilities A.Walker, K.Simpson

that has to be the most ridiculous team in all 4 comps, looks like there must be only 4 teams in the comp.....

all premiums every line, how did that happen?  and 3 more premiums not in the starting 15....

holz got the wooden spoon last year due to injuries + form drops, but his team was stacked with youth so he spent the trade period trading off things like pick 1 national, omeara etc. for players who'd under performed like cloke, barlow.

and cw- goldy, cloke and barlow weren't certainties... personally I didn't pick any of them in my DT :P There were doubts over goldy based on how many hit outs made up his point %, on cloke as a key forward in general, on barlows recovery from his leg.

Here are the trades holz made for reference, I'll bold the ones that probably shouldn't have passed (at that point in time, not in hindsight), although they're all justifiable imo :P

Eagles Receive: Michael Barlow
Dino's Receive: Nat Pick 1


Eagles Receive: Goldstein + Harper + Polec
Son's Receive: Shuey + Nat Pick 15 + Nat Pick 30

Dinos receive: Michael Johnson
Eagles Reciieve: Andrew Walker

EAGLES TRADE: TRENT COTCHIN
TROLLS TRADE: SCOTT PENDLEBURY

Serbia Receive: Brett Deledio + Pick 7
Greece Receive: Dylan Shiel + Stephen Coniglio + Brandon Ellis + Daniel Pearce.

Spain Receive: Matt Priddis+Mitchell Grigg
Serbia Receive: Matthew Boyd.

Serbia Trade: Rookie 29 + Rookie 43
Norway Trade: Drew Petrie

Serbia Trade: Shane Mumford + Jared Polec + Todd Elton + Nat 44 + Rookie 15
Iceland Trade: Brendan Goddard + Rookie 8

Serbia trade chris knights + nat 16 + Campbell Heath
Belgium trade Brodie smith + rookie 35 + rookie 65

Serbia Trades - K.Cornes
Norway Trades - B.Harvey

Holz gives: Rookie 1 + Rookie 35 + Rookie 57
Holz gets: Aaron Sandilands + Rookie 6
(3 way trade)

IN hindsight, several of them (like the petrie  one and goddard one) shouldn't have passed, but hey, hindsight's a dog :P
ftr, the last trade is reasonable (on face value it doesn't look so), but considering brock mclean was unpicked in the rookie draft at the time and averaged over 100 unsubbed, makes it pretty reasonable. 

basically, everything (with the exception of sandi's injury) just went right for holz :P

he's team is pretty old though, especially his forward line which will be destroyed in 2 years tops  :P
Title: Re: World Cup
Post by: Holz on July 19, 2013, 04:56:28 PM
I stand by the goddard one, it was before he was traded at stkilda he would be a 95 average player and he isnt that young. To be fair mummy was coming off an injury plagued 82 average season, going 91 the year before being a top 3 ruck in the comp.

The Barlow for pick 1 was the only trade I think should have gotten canceled.

however its knowhere near the worst trade ever.

Joel Selwood for Liam Shiels.


he's team is pretty old though, especially his forward line which will be destroyed in 2 years tops


that is is, im losing walker to defense. Harvey and Petrie dont have long left. Im also going to lose goddard to gibbs to the midfield and im going to be getting late picks for a few years. Boyd hasnt got long left and eski is 29 and injury prone. I have absolutely no youth coming in.

Hogan and Swallow are my only decent youth.

Title: Re: World Cup
Post by: Ricochet on July 19, 2013, 04:58:14 PM
Quote from: Ziplock on July 19, 2013, 04:50:55 PM
he's team is pretty old though, especially his forward line which will be destroyed in 2 years tops  :P
And then in come the Bashers  ;)
Title: Re: World Cup
Post by: roo boys! on July 19, 2013, 05:02:37 PM
Quote from: Ziplock on July 19, 2013, 04:50:55 PM

Serbia Trade: Rookie 29 + Rookie 43
Norway Trade: Drew Petrie

I bloody hope Rookie picks are worth a lot more than they are in Worlds...know McLean was available as you said but would be interesting to see who was taken at picks 29 and 43. Quite the trade
Title: Re: World Cup
Post by: Holz on July 19, 2013, 05:16:30 PM
Quote from: roo boys! on July 19, 2013, 05:02:37 PM
Quote from: Ziplock on July 19, 2013, 04:50:55 PM

Serbia Trade: Rookie 29 + Rookie 43
Norway Trade: Drew Petrie

I bloody hope Rookie picks are worth a lot more than they are in Worlds...know McLean was available as you said but would be interesting to see who was taken at picks 29 and 43. Quite the trade

rookie picks are very valuable in the euro, we only have 14 teams and small lists so there are heaps of good players avilable.

also petrie is a SC player he isnt that good at DT.

check out some of the picks


8. JBs - Shaun Atley
23. Nails - Brent Staker
24. Pickers - Arryn Siposs , i traded him for clancee pearce.
34. Hawka - Brett Goodes
43. Scrads - Majak Daw
47. Spinking - Kane Lucas
65. Holz - Robbie Tarrant
71. Holz - Charlie Dixon
79. Holz - Richard Douglas

I think everyone would agree that picking up the 11th highest scoring player at that pick would probably be the greatest pick in XVs history. I was looking through the list of unpicked playersand just wanted a guy to sit on my bench thought I was a genious thinking he might go up to 80 given he was a best and fairest winner.
Title: Re: World Cup
Post by: roo boys! on July 19, 2013, 05:19:35 PM
I would know, Richard Douglas spent a small amount of time at the Wolves before I though "Nah, Clint Young will do the job...."
Title: Re: World Cup
Post by: kilbluff1985 on July 19, 2013, 05:34:08 PM
i got Matt Jones with pick 63 out of 70 or something in the BXV Draft i would have picked him much earlier but that was my teams first pick in the draft i think lol

nobody knew much about him then but i did thought that was a bargain

not sure why i posted that must be bored
Title: Re: World Cup
Post by: Justin Bieber on July 19, 2013, 05:39:27 PM
Quote from: Holzman on July 19, 2013, 04:18:08 PM
Quote from: Colliwobblers on July 19, 2013, 03:53:28 PM
ok ill give you the others but almost anyone would have known cloke barlow and goldy would return to genuine premium status ;)


haha lez didnt. However this was before Hmac was traded.

Yeah I traded him... But that was with Hmac dominating and Goldy didn't get a game at the time of the deal was made.
Title: Re: World Cup
Post by: Colliwobblers on July 19, 2013, 06:40:07 PM
forgot Euro was DT, changes my comments a little, in regards to cloke and goldy, both far better SC options at their positions.

I must admit i would have given goldy up cheap for DT too, and i would have been wrong but who knew.....

hard to work out what a ruck is worth in DT with the changes so many are worthless, think tom nichols is better than 80% of the premiums so far.....
Title: Re: World Cup
Post by: Ziplock on July 19, 2013, 06:43:22 PM
Quote from: roo boys! on July 19, 2013, 05:02:37 PM
Quote from: Ziplock on July 19, 2013, 04:50:55 PM

Serbia Trade: Rookie 29 + Rookie 43
Norway Trade: Drew Petrie

I bloody hope Rookie picks are worth a lot more than they are in Worlds...know McLean was available as you said but would be interesting to see who was taken at picks 29 and 43. Quite the trade

there were still some pretty decent players left (mostly youth with potential) - euros rookie is quality ;) I think those picks bounced around a bit more, but 29 ended up being hampson and 43 daw.
Title: Re: World Cup
Post by: Ricochet on July 19, 2013, 06:46:14 PM
Quote from: Colliwobblers on July 19, 2013, 06:40:07 PM
forgot Euro was DT, changes my comments a little, in regards to cloke and goldy, both far better SC options at their positions.

I must admit i would have given goldy up cheap for DT too, and i would have been wrong but who knew.....

hard to work out what a ruck is worth in DT with the changes so many are worthless, think tom nichols is better than 80% of the premiums so far.....
Yeh ruckmen in DT based comps aren't worth that much. Atm there are 9 players averaging between 80 and 92. Annnd Nic Nat, Bellchambers, McEvov, Maric, Griffin, Giles, Mummy and Sandi are all averaging less than 80.
Title: Re: World Cup
Post by: My Chumps on July 19, 2013, 08:07:26 PM
Just my luck to get the Eagles first round!  :-\
Title: Re: World Cup
Post by: Toga on July 19, 2013, 08:15:35 PM
Quote from: My Chumps on July 19, 2013, 08:07:26 PM
Just my luck to get the Eagles first round!  :-\

At least the THUNDER isn't around to cause troubles for your lot! ;D
Title: Re: World Cup
Post by: Nails on July 19, 2013, 08:20:30 PM
Armadillos look similar to Eagles when fully fit. So do the Suns.
Title: Re: World Cup
Post by: My Chumps on July 19, 2013, 09:00:24 PM
Quote from: Toga on July 19, 2013, 08:15:35 PM
Quote from: My Chumps on July 19, 2013, 08:07:26 PM
Just my luck to get the Eagles first round!  :-\

At least the THUNDER isn't around to cause troubles for your lot! ;D
Hahaha, was that the greatest moment in franchise history? :P


And in that draft, DAYUM. Getting Dixon at pick 71...
Title: Re: World Cup
Post by: Toga on July 19, 2013, 09:11:19 PM
Haha you know it Chumpy! :P
Title: Re: World Cup
Post by: CrowsFan on July 19, 2013, 09:27:09 PM
Quote from: Nails on July 19, 2013, 08:20:30 PM
Armadillos look similar to Eagles when fully fit. So do the Suns.
No mention of the Pumas?
Title: Re: World Cup
Post by: KoopKicka on July 19, 2013, 11:03:42 PM
Eskimos 164/2
Vipers 154.5/2 (VC played)

Didnt start great, but the Vipers started worse ;D
Title: Re: World Cup
Post by: Colliwobblers on July 19, 2013, 11:08:30 PM
the Vipers are terrible, but BEAMS will get me over the line.
Title: Re: World Cup
Post by: tbagrocks on July 20, 2013, 12:27:58 AM
Quote from: Colliwobblers on July 19, 2013, 11:08:30 PM
the Vipers are terrible, but BEAMS will get me over the line.
Might want to win your AXV game first!

Oh right, Beans in, Danger out :P  Nice win!
Title: Re: World Cup
Post by: Justin Bieber on July 20, 2013, 09:25:47 AM
Quote from: KoopKicka on July 19, 2013, 11:03:42 PM
Eskimos 164/2
Vipers 154.5/2 (VC played)

Didnt start great, but the Vipers started worse ;D
How the fuvk did 2 spud teams draw each other?
Title: Re: World Cup
Post by: Colliwobblers on July 20, 2013, 02:18:44 PM
spuds today stars tomorrow, the vipers will rise again
Title: Re: World Cup
Post by: Scrads on July 20, 2013, 06:19:52 PM
Quote from: Holzman on July 19, 2013, 05:16:30 PM
Quote from: roo boys! on July 19, 2013, 05:02:37 PM
Quote from: Ziplock on July 19, 2013, 04:50:55 PM

Serbia Trade: Rookie 29 + Rookie 43
Norway Trade: Drew Petrie

I bloody hope Rookie picks are worth a lot more than they are in Worlds...know McLean was available as you said but would be interesting to see who was taken at picks 29 and 43. Quite the trade

rookie picks are very valuable in the euro, we only have 14 teams and small lists so there are heaps of good players avilable.

also petrie is a SC player he isnt that good at DT.

check out some of the picks


8. JBs - Shaun Atley
23. Nails - Brent Staker
24. Pickers - Arryn Siposs , i traded him for clancee pearce.
34. Hawka - Brett Goodes
43. Scrads - Majak Daw
47. Spinking - Kane Lucas
65. Holz - Robbie Tarrant
71. Holz - Charlie Dixon
79. Holz - Richard Douglas

I think everyone would agree that picking up the 11th highest scoring player at that pick would probably be the greatest pick in XVs history. I was looking through the list of unpicked playersand just wanted a guy to sit on my bench thought I was a genious thinking he might go up to 80 given he was a best and fairest winner.

Chris Masten was a pick halfway through our rookie '3rd draft' when we were constructing our initial squads, has been good :)
Title: Re: World Cup
Post by: roo boys! on July 21, 2013, 10:32:54 AM
Wolves on track for our record lowest score, could well be knocked out first round here.
Title: Re: World Cup
Post by: Toga on July 21, 2013, 11:39:22 AM
Still got two thirds of my XV to come haha!
Title: Re: World Cup
Post by: PowerBug on July 21, 2013, 12:25:49 PM
I think the Islanders are going to knock me out...
Title: Re: World Cup
Post by: Jay on July 21, 2013, 12:49:07 PM
Quote from: PowerBug on July 21, 2013, 12:25:49 PM
I think the Islanders are going to knock me out...
Never underestimate Pacific :P
Title: Re: World Cup
Post by: PowerBug on July 21, 2013, 12:59:51 PM
The scores that are used here, do they include the HGA and other bonuses we get from our other comps?
Title: Re: World Cup
Post by: Ziplock on July 21, 2013, 01:17:16 PM
uhhhh

I'm not sure about HGA, but it would include things like halving OOP and vicecaptains in some comps.
Title: Re: World Cup
Post by: Nails on July 21, 2013, 01:18:42 PM
Pretty sure no HGA

As there was no HGA in Champs either.
Title: Re: World Cup
Post by: BB67th on July 21, 2013, 01:19:46 PM
Quote from: PowerBug on July 21, 2013, 12:59:51 PM
The scores that are used here, do they include the HGA and other bonuses we get from our other comps?
Pretty sure it includes everything but HGA, then you use the multiplier to get the final score. I assume that you would also not get any early team updating bonuses like the 20 point bonus in British?
Title: Re: World Cup
Post by: Nails on July 21, 2013, 01:21:56 PM
One possible flaw in the weighting system might not have considered

If we're excluding HGA...

I'm pretty sure the weighting is based on scores with HGA however though. Also due to different ways HGA is worked out it'd sorta skew the data as well and make weighting not perfect.
Title: Re: World Cup
Post by: PowerBug on July 21, 2013, 01:22:20 PM
It depends how the multiplier was created though. If it was created with HGA and other bonuses, then they should count here.
Title: Re: World Cup
Post by: Holz on July 21, 2013, 06:43:13 PM
Quote from: BB67th on July 21, 2013, 01:19:46 PM
Quote from: PowerBug on July 21, 2013, 12:59:51 PM
The scores that are used here, do they include the HGA and other bonuses we get from our other comps?
Pretty sure it includes everything but HGA, then you use the multiplier to get the final score. I assume that you would also not get any early team updating bonuses like the 20 point bonus in British?

Correct stuff like OOP gets counted but no home ground advantage.
Title: Re: World Cup
Post by: Colliwobblers on July 21, 2013, 06:44:41 PM
Holz has this shower under control :)

Vipers get up but do the werewolves.....

not a great fantasy week for he all conquering werewolves..
Title: Re: World Cup
Post by: JBs-Hawks on July 21, 2013, 06:48:26 PM
And Asians 1.5x VC multiplier?
Title: Re: World Cup
Post by: Holz on July 21, 2013, 06:50:45 PM
Quote from: JBs-Hawks on July 21, 2013, 06:48:26 PM
And Asians 1.5x VC multiplier?

It's counted
Title: Re: World Cup
Post by: ossie85 on July 21, 2013, 06:51:21 PM
Quote from: JBs-Hawks on July 21, 2013, 06:48:26 PM
And Asians 1.5x VC multiplier?

That should count because of the multiplier (Holz ninja!)

HGA - and I think all 4 comps do it the same - should all work out in the wash. Happy for it not to be included on this end
Title: Re: World Cup
Post by: Colliwobblers on July 21, 2013, 06:51:46 PM
Quote from: Holzman on July 21, 2013, 06:50:45 PM
Quote from: JBs-Hawks on July 21, 2013, 06:48:26 PM
And Asians 1.5x VC multiplier?

It's counted

see - what did i say - never doubt the HOLZ MAN  ;)
Title: Re: World Cup
Post by: Ziplock on July 21, 2013, 06:54:01 PM
I'm glad HGA isn't counted. Everything else should be though, good job :)
Title: Re: World Cup
Post by: Colliwobblers on July 21, 2013, 06:57:56 PM
Quote from: ossie85 on July 21, 2013, 06:51:21 PM
Quote from: JBs-Hawks on July 21, 2013, 06:48:26 PM
And Asians 1.5x VC multiplier?

That should count because of the multiplier (Holz ninja!)

HGA - and I think all 4 comps do it the same - should all work out in the wash. Happy for it not to be included on this end

AXVS uses a % of total team score - think a HGA should be set not dependant on one players performance ( as in lowest doubled)

AXVS rocks just like a tbag does :)
Title: Re: World Cup
Post by: Nails on July 21, 2013, 06:59:38 PM
Multiplier was created with HGA though surely :-X

It doesn't matter, looks good to me anyway

Shame at least half my teams will be gone.
Title: Re: World Cup
Post by: Holz on July 21, 2013, 07:00:31 PM
Just found out about the Asian hone ground advantage. I think it's 3% for hga. So to fix it up changing the multiplier by 1.5% and no home ground advantage. Will keep the seeds and the draw the same

The British 20 point I can't count for in the scaling but it won't count.
Title: Re: World Cup
Post by: Holz on July 21, 2013, 07:01:36 PM
Quote from: Nails on July 21, 2013, 06:59:38 PM
Multiplier was created with HGA though surely :-X

It doesn't matter, looks good to me anyway

Shame at least half my teams will be gone.

It was but as everyone has it the same except Asia the 1.5% bonus should make everything even.
Title: Re: World Cup
Post by: Colliwobblers on July 21, 2013, 07:02:59 PM
everyone just needs to wise up and change to the AXVS method for future seasons  :o
Title: Re: World Cup
Post by: ossie85 on July 21, 2013, 07:12:49 PM
Quote from: Colliwobblers on July 21, 2013, 07:02:59 PM
everyone just needs to wise up and change to the AXVS method for future seasons  :o

:/ I like my way better :)
Title: Re: World Cup
Post by: Colliwobblers on July 21, 2013, 07:22:26 PM
Quote from: ossie85 on July 21, 2013, 07:12:49 PM
Quote from: Colliwobblers on July 21, 2013, 07:02:59 PM
everyone just needs to wise up and change to the AXVS method for future seasons  :o

:/ I like my way better :)

you do 50% of lowest scoring player?

we may too after this season, lots of first season rules / settings to be reviewed post finals, we will see....

as I say each to his own, and may the best Asian win  8)
Title: Re: World Cup
Post by: ossie85 on July 21, 2013, 07:24:21 PM
Quote from: Colliwobblers on July 21, 2013, 07:22:26 PM
Quote from: ossie85 on July 21, 2013, 07:12:49 PM
Quote from: Colliwobblers on July 21, 2013, 07:02:59 PM
everyone just needs to wise up and change to the AXVS method for future seasons  :o

:/ I like my way better :)

you do 50% of lowest scoring player?

we may too after this season, lots of first season rules / settings to be reviewed post finals, we will see....

as I say each to his own, and may the best Asian win  8)

Double the low scoring (not half). Also thought of maybe a fixed HGA
Title: Re: World Cup
Post by: Colliwobblers on July 21, 2013, 07:29:23 PM
haha yes 200% yes double that is what i meant, it is more interesting your method but very erratic as in you never know if you will actually get a HGA or not.

ours works out about 55 points a game, not sure if it is enough given an average team score around 1800.

we will review, my feel is you want a real HGA but it cant be too big that it decides every game either.

bit of a balance....
Title: Re: World Cup
Post by: ossie85 on July 21, 2013, 07:30:44 PM

Very much so - I reckon over almost 2 years we've had about 10 games decided on HGA

Memberships might come into next year also!
Title: Re: World Cup
Post by: Colliwobblers on July 21, 2013, 07:34:09 PM
Quote from: ossie85 on July 21, 2013, 07:30:44 PM

Very much so - I reckon over almost 2 years we've had about 10 games decided on HGA

Memberships might come into next year also!

you are too advanced for me, i need 3 of me to match the work you do in words...

also something for us to discuss post finals "assistants for me"

our comp is fairly raw but the main important thing is we have outstanding coaches of all the teams,very active and committed.

or should be committed  ;D  one of the two
Title: Re: World Cup
Post by: ossie85 on July 21, 2013, 07:38:19 PM

The Asians is outstanding btw CW, don't sell yourself short!
Title: Re: World Cup
Post by: PowerBug on July 21, 2013, 07:44:06 PM
Do teams with decmial point scores get rounded off? And what happens if rounded off scores are equal, do we go on absolute score or team ranking?
Title: Re: World Cup
Post by: Holz on July 21, 2013, 07:47:39 PM
Quote from: PowerBug on July 21, 2013, 07:44:06 PM
Do teams with decmial point scores get rounded off? And what happens if rounded off scores are equal, do we go on absolute score or team ranking?

raw scores
Title: Re: World Cup
Post by: PowerBug on July 21, 2013, 07:48:24 PM
Nomination for closest match of the KO Cup

Pacific Islanders (Worlds)
SC score: 1332
Scale: 1
Result: 1332

Hastings Hurricanes (British)
Sportal score: 1540
Scale: 0.8673
Result: 1335.642
Title: Re: World Cup
Post by: Holz on July 21, 2013, 07:55:16 PM
I think the top seed just got knocked out round 1.

Cobras 153.

Title: Re: World Cup
Post by: PowerBug on July 21, 2013, 08:15:59 PM
Meanwhile the 5th seeds Sweidsh Metal:

Swedish Metal (Euros)
DT score: 1353
Scale: 1.029
Result: 1392.237

Cairo Sands (Worlds)
SC score: 1540
Scale: 1
Result: 1540

Not sure exactly on Cairo's score, just using what ossie has written in the Worlds thread, it's more than the Metal anyway. 5th seeds knocked out, and Cairo will play Hastings in Rd 2.
Title: Re: World Cup
Post by: Nige on July 21, 2013, 08:18:12 PM
Wooo! Go Cairo! Bring on them Hurricanes.  8)
Title: Re: World Cup
Post by: Scrads on July 21, 2013, 08:18:56 PM
League admins, I think the subtle differences between the comps (HGA, VC, list sizes, amount of teams) is a good thing, it would be a little bland if the 4 comps were exactly the same just with different scoring methods.
Title: Re: World Cup
Post by: ossie85 on July 21, 2013, 08:44:33 PM

WXV Scores without HGA

Beijing Thunder   1051
Berlin Brewers   1378
Buenos Aires Armadillos   1160
Cairo Sands   1502
Cape Town Cobras   1470
Dublin Destroyers   1554
London Royals   1268
Mexico City Suns   1468
Moscow Spetsnaz   1408
New Delhi Tigers   1231
New York Revolution   1323
Pacific Islanders   1332
PNL Reindeers   1424
Sao Paulo Pumas   1471
Seoul Magpies   1114
Tokyo Samurai   1141
Toronto Wolves   1245
Wellington Warriors   1128
Title: Re: World Cup
Post by: Holz on July 21, 2013, 08:48:54 PM
thanks ossie, will wait for all 4 leagues before i get started so may take a day or two. Hopefully should be out tomorrow
Title: Re: World Cup
Post by: Ziplock on July 21, 2013, 09:00:34 PM
Quote from: ossie85 on July 21, 2013, 07:30:44 PM

Very much so - I reckon over almost 2 years we've had about 10 games decided on HGA

Memberships might come into next year also!

really  :S

I swear heaps of euros games have been decided by HGA :P
Title: Re: World Cup
Post by: Holz on July 21, 2013, 09:06:27 PM
Quote from: Ziplock on July 21, 2013, 09:00:34 PM
Quote from: ossie85 on July 21, 2013, 07:30:44 PM

Very much so - I reckon over almost 2 years we've had about 10 games decided on HGA

Memberships might come into next year also!

really  :S

I swear heaps of euros games have been decided by HGA :P

yeah we have alot of close games.
Title: Re: World Cup
Post by: Colliwobblers on July 21, 2013, 09:11:52 PM
AXVS SCORES WITHOUT HGA  also without rounding.

BEARS - 1896.5

ESKIMOS - 1605

ALES - 1792.5

GAZELLES - 1647

VIPERS - 1875.5

HEAD HUNTERS - 1646.5

DONGS - 1829.5

LAMBS - 1836

CRABS - 1629.5

STRIKERS - 1723.5

TIGERS - 1882

DOLPHINS - 1839.5

LLAMAS - 1687.5

CROCODILES - 1548

FOLDERS - 1765.5

ELEPHANTS - 1648.5
Title: Re: World Cup
Post by: PowerBug on July 21, 2013, 09:28:12 PM
Results so far:

Multipliers:
British: 0.8673
Asians: 0.7591
Euros: 1.029

Top Half:
Gazelles (Asians) 1250.24
Hedgehogs (British) 1365.13

Samurai (Worlds) 1141
Dongs (Asians) 1388.77

Bunnies (British) 1364.26
Wolves (Worlds) 1245 13th seeds knocked out

Armadillos (Worlds) 1160 4th seeds knocked out
Dolphins (Asians) 1396.36

Head Hunters (Asians) 1249.86
Magpies (Worlds) 1114

Lobsters (British) 1272.33
Owls (British) 1420.64

Bombers (British) 1348.65 16th seeds knocked out
Tigers (Asians) 1428.63

Folders (Asians) 1340.19 12th seeds knocked out
Crocodiles (Asians) 1175.09

Falcons (British) 1098
Destroyers (Worlds) 1554

Bottom Half:
Metal (Euros) 1392.23 5th seeds knocked out
Sands (Worlds) 1502

Islanders (Worlds) 1332
Hurricanes (British) 1335.64

Leeches (British) 1111.01
Strikers (Asians) 1308.31

Breakers (British) 1443.19 15th seeds through
Spetsnaz (Worlds) 1408

Vipers (Asians) 1423.69
Eskimos (Asians) 1218.36

Swaggers (British) 1267.99
Suns (Worlds) 1468 3rd seeds through

Lambs (Asians) 1393.71 6th seeds through
Giants (British) 1108.41

Steins (British) 1195.14
Tigers (Worlds) 1231

Royals (Worlds) 1268
Reindeers (Worlds) 1424

Ales (Asians) 1360.69
Hoods (British) 1405.03 10th seeds through

Werewolves (British) 1399.82 14th seeds through
Brewers (Worlds) 1378

Hawks (British) 1403.29
Pumas (Worlds) 1471 2nd seeds through


Worlds losing teams left,right and centre. Sao Paulo show why they are seeded 2nd, likewise Mexico and 3rd.



Slowly adding more results as I look through the completed teams. :)
Title: Re: World Cup
Post by: Nige on July 21, 2013, 09:32:20 PM
The Reindeers got a win! #Yay4BunnyAndPNL
Title: Re: World Cup
Post by: Colliwobblers on July 21, 2013, 09:41:26 PM
Asians running amok  ;D
Title: Re: World Cup
Post by: Ringo on July 21, 2013, 09:56:46 PM
BXVS SCORES WITHOUT HGA

Bradford Badgers 1615
Liverpool Lobsters 1467
Winchester Werewolves 1614
Manchester Magic 1380
Huddersfield Hawks 1618
Leeds Leeches 1281
Bilston Bunnies 1573
Crosby Cruisers 1074
Grope Lane Giants 1278
Newcastle Falcons 1266
Oxford Owls 1638
Birmingham Bombers 1555
Hastings Hurricanes 1540
Staines Steins 1378
Swansea Breakers 1664
Hebden Bridge Hedgehogs 1574
Nottingham Hoods 1620
Swindon Swaggers 1462

Have not completed double check but will, advise any changes.
Title: Re: World Cup
Post by: Holz on July 21, 2013, 09:58:55 PM
should have everything updated tomorrow night guys. no clue how these guys do it.
Title: Re: World Cup
Post by: PowerBug on July 21, 2013, 10:45:44 PM
Seeds through:
2 - Sao Paulo W
3 - Mexico W
6 - Lambs A
10 - Hoods B
14 - Werewolves B
15 - Breakers B

Seeds out:
4 - Armadillos W
5 - Metal E
12 - Folders A
13 - Wolves W
16 - Bombers B

All others are unknown, probably because they have Euros scores in them and those scores aren't put through yet.
Title: Re: World Cup
Post by: Colliwobblers on July 21, 2013, 10:50:07 PM
werewolves :)  lambs :)

folders :(
Title: Re: World Cup
Post by: Toga on July 21, 2013, 10:50:48 PM
#Baa

Go you Lambies!

Looks like we have the NDT next week!
Title: Re: World Cup
Post by: KoopKicka on July 21, 2013, 10:52:27 PM
How are the folders out? looks to me like they beat the crocs? ???
Title: Re: World Cup
Post by: Colliwobblers on July 21, 2013, 10:54:52 PM
Quote from: KoopKicka on July 21, 2013, 10:52:27 PM
How are the folders out? looks to me like they beat the crocs? ???

well if they were playing the crocs (our crocs) it is a typo and they are definitely still in :)
Title: Re: World Cup
Post by: BB67th on July 22, 2013, 08:02:44 AM
Quote from: Colliwobblers on July 21, 2013, 10:54:52 PM
Quote from: KoopKicka on July 21, 2013, 10:52:27 PM
How are the folders out? looks to me like they beat the crocs? ???

well if they were playing the crocs (our crocs) it is a typo and they are definitely still in :)
Yes don't worry Colli, we are still alive and well. We have big plans here to represent Asia and win this Cup.
Title: Re: World Cup
Post by: Ringo on July 22, 2013, 10:51:02 AM
Quote from: Ringo on July 21, 2013, 09:56:46 PM
BXVS SCORES WITHOUT HGA

Bradford Badgers 1643
Liverpool Lobsters 1467
Winchester Werewolves 1614
Manchester Magic 1380
Huddersfield Hawks 1618
Leeds Leeches 1281
Bilston Bunnies 1573
Crosby Cruisers 1074
Grope Lane Giants 1278
Newcastle Falcons 1266
Oxford Owls 1638
Birmingham Bombers 1555
Hastings Hurricanes 1540
Staines Steins 1531
Swansea Breakers 1664
Hebden Bridge Hedgehogs 1574
Nottingham Hoods 1559
Swindon Swaggers 1462

Have not completed double check but will, advise any changes.
After double checking couple of changes Bradford Badgers go to 1643, Steins go to 1531 (Captains score had not been doubled) and Nottingham Hoods go down to 1559 (Player oop not halved),
Title: Re: World Cup
Post by: Memphistopheles on July 22, 2013, 11:48:28 AM
Quote from: BB67th on July 22, 2013, 08:02:44 AM
Quote from: Colliwobblers on July 21, 2013, 10:54:52 PM
Quote from: KoopKicka on July 21, 2013, 10:52:27 PM
How are the folders out? looks to me like they beat the crocs? ???

well if they were playing the crocs (our crocs) it is a typo and they are definitely still in :)
Yes don't worry Colli, we are still alive and well. We have big plans here to represent Asia and win this Cup.

You'll have to get past the Dolphins first...

Crushed the fourth seeds. As if the ladder-leading Asians team isn't seeded.

It's alright we're happy to be the underdogs...
Title: Re: World Cup
Post by: Toga on July 22, 2013, 11:50:53 AM
The highest-seeded Asians team and #6 seed will also have something to say about that as well BB67th! ;)

@Memph, seeding was done on average score per round, not ladder position!
Title: Re: World Cup
Post by: PowerBug on July 22, 2013, 04:10:04 PM
Quote from: BB67th on July 22, 2013, 08:02:44 AM
Quote from: Colliwobblers on July 21, 2013, 10:54:52 PM
Quote from: KoopKicka on July 21, 2013, 10:52:27 PM
How are the folders out? looks to me like they beat the crocs? ???

well if they were playing the crocs (our crocs) it is a typo and they are definitely still in :)
Yes don't worry Colli, we are still alive and well. We have big plans here to represent Asia and win this Cup.
Oops, typo. Colour coded correctly just typed wrong :P
Title: Re: World Cup
Post by: My Chumps on July 22, 2013, 05:30:08 PM
Quote from: Holzman on July 21, 2013, 07:55:16 PM
I think the top seed just got knocked out round 1.

Cobras 153.
This could be the greatest thing ever  :P
Title: Re: World Cup
Post by: Nige on July 22, 2013, 05:31:53 PM
Quote from: My Chumps on July 22, 2013, 05:30:08 PM
Quote from: Holzman on July 21, 2013, 07:55:16 PM
I think the top seed just got knocked out round 1.

Cobras 153.
This could be the greatest thing ever  :P
Especially when you didn't even name a team this week.  :P
Title: Re: World Cup
Post by: My Chumps on July 22, 2013, 05:34:10 PM
Quote from: NigeyS on July 22, 2013, 05:31:53 PM
Quote from: My Chumps on July 22, 2013, 05:30:08 PM
Quote from: Holzman on July 21, 2013, 07:55:16 PM
I think the top seed just got knocked out round 1.

Cobras 153.
This could be the greatest thing ever  :P
Especially when you didn't even name a team this week.  :P
Quiet you :P
Title: Re: World Cup
Post by: Holz on July 22, 2013, 05:37:02 PM
Quote from: My Chumps on July 22, 2013, 05:30:08 PM
Quote from: Holzman on July 21, 2013, 07:55:16 PM
I think the top seed just got knocked out round 1.

Cobras 153.
This could be the greatest thing ever  :P


and I think i got a 149, my lowest score for a long time  :(
Title: Re: World Cup
Post by: Holz on July 22, 2013, 05:40:07 PM
forgot you had home ground advantage 149 v 147 ( i think)

Eagles Win
(http://www.greeleydowntown.com/sites/default/files/blog-photos/newyearseveimage1.jpg)
Title: Re: World Cup
Post by: My Chumps on July 22, 2013, 06:23:01 PM
... f*ck. Got my hopes up and all Holz :P
Title: Re: World Cup
Post by: Justin Bieber on July 22, 2013, 08:04:44 PM
Quote from: NigeyS on July 21, 2013, 09:32:20 PM
The Reindeers got a win! #Yay4BunnyAndPNL

About bloody time! We can't buy a win in World's to save our life ::).
Title: Re: World Cup
Post by: LaHug on July 23, 2013, 02:19:44 PM
Just a heads up, Holz. The plural of Bison is Bison. We are the Belarus Bison! I think I mentioned this when Euros first started. Every time someone says "bisons", I kill a kitten out of rage.
You've been warned.
Title: Re: World Cup
Post by: Holz on July 23, 2013, 02:21:44 PM
Quote from: LaHug on July 23, 2013, 02:19:44 PM
Just a heads up, Holz. The plural of Bison is Bison. We are the Belarus Bison! I think I mentioned this when Euros first started. Every time someone says "bisons", I kill a kitten out of rage.
You've been warned.

no problem im a dog lover ;)

im sure there are a myriad of gramatical errors in the team names.
Title: Re: World Cup
Post by: LaHug on July 23, 2013, 02:23:23 PM
Quote from: Holzman on July 23, 2013, 02:21:44 PM
Quote from: LaHug on July 23, 2013, 02:19:44 PM
Just a heads up, Holz. The plural of Bison is Bison. We are the Belarus Bison! I think I mentioned this when Euros first started. Every time someone says "bisons", I kill a kitten out of rage.
You've been warned.

no problem im a dog lover ;)

im sure there are a myriad of gramatical errors in the team names.
Well, I didn't want to mention it, but you've been putting "Lahug" in brackets next to the Bison in Euros the whole time when I'm LaHug. ;)
Title: Re: World Cup
Post by: Holz on July 23, 2013, 02:26:59 PM
will be changed Lahug coach of the Bison

also will do the scores tonight, was waiting on the euro but I will do that and than get this sorted.

Will be interesting to see how many seeds go out.
Title: Re: World Cup
Post by: Nails on July 23, 2013, 02:48:10 PM
And somewhere in Euros I forgot where

It says "Sweddish Metal"

Grinds my gears.
Title: Re: World Cup
Post by: LaHug on July 23, 2013, 02:52:45 PM
Quote from: Holzman on July 23, 2013, 02:26:59 PM
will be changed Lahug coach of the Bison

also will do the scores tonight, was waiting on the euro but I will do that and than get this sorted.

Will be interesting to see how many seeds go out.
LaHug!!!
Not sure if you did that just to set me off or not... :P
Title: Re: World Cup
Post by: Holz on July 23, 2013, 03:08:39 PM
Quote from: LaHug on July 23, 2013, 02:52:45 PM
Quote from: Holzman on July 23, 2013, 02:26:59 PM
will be changed Lahug coach of the Bison

also will do the scores tonight, was waiting on the euro but I will do that and than get this sorted.

Will be interesting to see how many seeds go out.
LaHug!!!
Not sure if you did that just to set me off or not... :P

I actually had it all set out to be 100% correct with LaHug coach of the Bison, my brain kicked in though and somehow typed it as Lahug
Title: Re: World Cup
Post by: Ziplock on July 23, 2013, 03:41:08 PM
I'm out against greece :(

1234- 1157 :(

devastated because I was tossing up between jarrad grant and krakouer... and ended up going krakouer on the basis that he was playing gold coast,  and grant sucks + was playing the hawks.

good call there ziplock. Literally lost you the game :(

Title: Re: World Cup
Post by: Adamant on July 23, 2013, 03:47:16 PM
Quote from: Holzman on July 23, 2013, 02:21:44 PM
Quote from: LaHug on July 23, 2013, 02:19:44 PM
Just a heads up, Holz. The plural of Bison is Bison. We are the Belarus Bison! I think I mentioned this when Euros first started. Every time someone says "bisons", I kill a kitten out of rage.
You've been warned.

no problem im a dog lover ;)

im sure there are a myriad of gramatical errors in the team names.

You've still listed pickers as head coach of the Trolls, Holz. :P
Title: Re: World Cup
Post by: Colliwobblers on July 23, 2013, 04:22:44 PM
Quote from: LaHug on July 23, 2013, 02:52:45 PM
Quote from: Holzman on July 23, 2013, 02:26:59 PM
will be changed Lahug coach of the Bison

also will do the scores tonight, was waiting on the euro but I will do that and than get this sorted.

Will be interesting to see how many seeds go out.
LaHug!!!
Not sure if you did that just to set me off or not... :P

i just say "huggy"

should that be "Huggy"   ???
Title: Re: World Cup
Post by: LaHug on July 23, 2013, 04:47:06 PM
Quote from: Colliwobblers on July 23, 2013, 04:22:44 PM
Quote from: LaHug on July 23, 2013, 02:52:45 PM
Quote from: Holzman on July 23, 2013, 02:26:59 PM
will be changed Lahug coach of the Bison

also will do the scores tonight, was waiting on the euro but I will do that and than get this sorted.

Will be interesting to see how many seeds go out.
LaHug!!!
Not sure if you did that just to set me off or not... :P

i just say "huggy"

should that be "Huggy"   ???
Surely all names should technically have a capital first letter. They're proper nouns.
Title: Re: World Cup
Post by: Nails on July 23, 2013, 05:38:34 PM
Names shouldn't have a capital letter in the middle of them tbh.

Should be Lahug or La_Hug
Title: Re: World Cup
Post by: BB67th on July 23, 2013, 05:47:05 PM
Are full results for the first round coming out soon?
Title: Re: World Cup
Post by: Nige on July 23, 2013, 05:48:57 PM
Quote from: BB67th on July 23, 2013, 05:47:05 PM
Are full results for the first round coming out soon?

Quote from: Holzman on July 23, 2013, 02:26:59 PM
also will do the scores tonight, was waiting on the euro but I will do that and than get this sorted.
Title: Re: World Cup
Post by: LaHug on July 23, 2013, 06:25:47 PM
Quote from: Nails on July 23, 2013, 05:38:34 PM
Names shouldn't have a capital letter in the middle of them tbh.

Should be Lahug or La_Hug
McDonald
Title: Re: World Cup
Post by: Nails on July 23, 2013, 07:04:01 PM
Quote from: LaHug on July 23, 2013, 06:25:47 PM
Quote from: Nails on July 23, 2013, 05:38:34 PM
Names shouldn't have a capital letter in the middle of them tbh.

Should be Lahug or La_Hug
McDonald

Mc is a prefix and not really part of the name.
Title: Re: World Cup
Post by: AFEV on July 23, 2013, 07:08:38 PM
Quote from: Nails on July 23, 2013, 07:04:01 PM
Quote from: LaHug on July 23, 2013, 06:25:47 PM
Quote from: Nails on July 23, 2013, 05:38:34 PM
Names shouldn't have a capital letter in the middle of them tbh.

Should be Lahug or La_Hug
McDonald
Mc is a prefix and not really part of the name.
La is a prefix and not really part of the name.
Title: Re: World Cup
Post by: BB67th on July 23, 2013, 07:24:57 PM
Quote from: NigeyS on July 23, 2013, 05:48:57 PM
Quote from: BB67th on July 23, 2013, 05:47:05 PM
Are full results for the first round coming out soon?

Quote from: Holzman on July 23, 2013, 02:26:59 PM
also will do the scores tonight, was waiting on the euro but I will do that and than get this sorted.
My bad, didn't see that bit.
Title: Re: World Cup
Post by: LaHug on July 23, 2013, 07:43:38 PM
Quote from: Sid on July 23, 2013, 07:08:38 PM
Quote from: Nails on July 23, 2013, 07:04:01 PM
Quote from: LaHug on July 23, 2013, 06:25:47 PM
Quote from: Nails on July 23, 2013, 05:38:34 PM
Names shouldn't have a capital letter in the middle of them tbh.

Should be Lahug or La_Hug
McDonald
Mc is a prefix and not really part of the name.
La is a prefix and not really part of the name.
:)
Title: Re: World Cup
Post by: Memphistopheles on July 23, 2013, 08:35:25 PM
Quote from: Toga on July 22, 2013, 11:50:53 AM
The highest-seeded Asians team and #6 seed will also have something to say about that as well BB67th! ;)

@Memph, seeding was done on average score per round, not ladder position!

I know mate, just stirring the pot.

You'd seriously not want to come up against us with Ablett in the form that he is.

Alson only the second time this season I've nailed the VC spot. Might have to keep giving Kreuzer a run now.
Title: Re: World Cup
Post by: Toga on July 23, 2013, 09:23:53 PM
Haha ok! :P

Erryone just wait till we have Stevie J, Murph, Dixo & now Hanley back on the park at the same time!! Hopefully Hanley is only out for a pair :-X
Title: Re: World Cup
Post by: Holz on July 23, 2013, 11:00:41 PM
1 Serbian Eagles 149 v Cape Town Cobras 147
Turkey Gazelles 127 v Hebden Hedgehogs 137
Toky Samurai 114 v Hongkong Dongs 141
Bliston Bunnies 136 v 13 Toronto Wolves 125
9 Bangladesh Bears 146 v English Lions 124
Crosby Cruisers 93 v Dutch Dinos 117
Machester Magic 120 v Spanish Stallions 131
Belgian Bashers 135 v 7 Bradford Badgers 140
4. Buenos Aires Dillos 116 v Taiwon Dolphins 142
PNG Head Hunters 127 v Seoul Magpies 112
Liverpool Lobsters 127 v Oxford Owls 142
UAE Tigers 145 v 16 Birmingham Bombers 135
12. Mainla Folders 136 v KL Crocodiles 119
Newcastle Falcons 110 v Dublin Destroyers 155
Macedonian Wolves 135 v New York Revolution 132
Tiebtan Llamas 130 v 8. Russian Roulletes 155
5. Swedish Metal 139 v Cairo Sands 150
Pacific Islanders 133 v Hastings Hurricanes 134
Leeds Leachers 111 v Srilanka Strikers 133
Norwegian Trolls 117 v 11.Belarus Bison 130
15. Swanse Breakers 144 v Moscow Spetnaz 141
Vietnam Vipers 145 v Kathmandu Eskimos 124
Vitcan City Valkyries 119 v Greek Titans 127
Swindon Swaggers 127 v 3. Mexico City Suns 147
6. Mongolian Lambs 141 v Grope Lane 111
Staines Steins 120 v New Dehli Tigers 123
London Royals 127 v PNL Reindeers 142
Australian Ales 138 v 10. Notingham Hoods 141
14. Winchester Wolves 140 v Berlin Brewers 138
Bangkok Crabs 126 v Iceland Poler Bears 124
Laos Elephants 127 v Scotlands Savage Sons  122
Huddersfield Hawks 140 v 2. Sao Paulo Pumas 147

missing 2 euro scores

Top 5 Scores of the week

1. Dublin Destroyers 155
1. Russian Roulette's 155
3. Cairo Sands 150
4. Serbian Eagles 149
5. Cape Town Cobras 147
5. Sao Paulo Pumas 147

Lucky Winner of the Week: New Dehli Tigers 117 (tied 6th lowest score of the week)

Unlucky Loser of the Week: Cabe Town Cobras 147 (tied 5th highest score of the week)
Title: Re: World Cup
Post by: Holz on July 23, 2013, 11:25:33 PM
1.Serbian Eagles    
2.Sao Paulo Pumas    
3.Mexico City Suns    
4.Buenos Aires Armadillos
5.Swedish Metal   
6.Mongolian Lambs   
7.Bradford Badgers    
8.Russian Roulettes   
9.Bangladesh Bears   
10.Nottingham Hoods    
11.Belarus Bisons   
12.Manila Folders   
13.Toronto Wolves    
14.Winchester Werewolves
15.Swansea Breakers    
16.Birmingham Bombers

There were 4 casualties this week with the injury plagued armadillos being the highest seed to crach out of the tournament. The Metal were unlucky to go down to a strong sands outfit. Top seeds eagles faced a scare in a high scroing afair with the Cobras, just getting through with the euro bonus. The number 2 seed pumas did it slightly easier in a tough battle with the Hawks.

Title: Re: World Cup
Post by: ossie85 on July 24, 2013, 07:04:26 AM
Poor swaggers - almost literally had no chance
Title: Re: World Cup
Post by: Justin Bieber on July 24, 2013, 07:57:31 AM
What did my team the sons score?
Title: Re: World Cup
Post by: Purple 77 on July 24, 2013, 10:34:18 AM
Nearly claimed a seeded team in the Warewolves, good game Winchester!

Oh well, maybe next year.
Title: Re: World Cup
Post by: Holz on July 24, 2013, 10:36:22 AM
Quote from: whatlez on July 24, 2013, 07:57:31 AM
What did my team the sons score?

your asian team knocked out your euro team. At least one was garunteed to get into round 2.
Title: Re: World Cup
Post by: Ringo on July 24, 2013, 11:39:50 AM
8 British Teams through to the next Round.  Lets bring the cup home to Britain where it belongs, % scaling may count against us in the long run given that none of our teams made the top 5. Looks like we need to score a minimum of 1750 in our leagues to reach the top going by first week.
Title: Re: World Cup
Post by: Holz on July 24, 2013, 11:45:30 AM
Quote from: Ringo on July 24, 2013, 11:39:50 AM
8 British Teams through to the next Round.  Lets bring the cup home to Britain where it belongs, % scaling may count against us in the long run given that none of our teams made the top 5. Looks like we need to score a minimum of 1750 in our leagues to reach the top going by first week.

the top 5 all euro and worlds. You might be in abit of trouble ringo.

the cup might go to Britians neighbour in Dublin though ;)
Title: Re: World Cup
Post by: Nails on July 24, 2013, 11:46:53 AM
Is anyone interested in the fact that when Holz does the weighting he does it so his team is the best ranking team of the lot? :o

Suspicious much? I think so!
Title: Re: World Cup
Post by: Justin Bieber on July 24, 2013, 11:48:16 AM
I think Euros rig the weighing
Title: Re: World Cup
Post by: Holz on July 24, 2013, 11:54:51 AM
Quote from: whatlez on July 24, 2013, 11:48:16 AM
I think Euros rig the weighing

its only a 2.9% increase from the worlds and the worlds normally pump out big averages. the top World teams at the moment are faultering abit. The dillos were pumping out 150+ easy when they were at full strength.

If anything the disadvantage to the british and asian as being first year comps they are abit more even. I find comps becomes less even in the trade period and middle of the road team either trade in old guns to lift thier chances or go down the youth path.
Title: Re: World Cup
Post by: Nails on July 24, 2013, 12:01:04 PM
Quote from: Holzman on July 24, 2013, 11:54:51 AM
Quote from: whatlez on July 24, 2013, 11:48:16 AM
I think Euros rig the weighing

its only a 2.9% increase from the worlds and the worlds normally pump out big averages. the top World teams at the moment are faultering abit. The dillos were pumping out 150+ easy when they were at full strength.

If anything the disadvantage to the british and asian as being first year comps they are abit more even. I find comps becomes less even in the trade period and middle of the road team either trade in old guns to lift thier chances or go down the youth path.

Chapman, Boyd, Stevie J, Kornes, Burgoyne. Cross, C. Cornes, Warnock (premo ruck in SC), Sam Gilbert (premo defender without his injury game) all missing from my worlds team last week.

9 players who'd probably all make best XV. It's sickening.
Title: Re: World Cup
Post by: Holz on July 24, 2013, 12:03:04 PM
Quote from: Nails on July 24, 2013, 12:01:04 PM
Quote from: Holzman on July 24, 2013, 11:54:51 AM
Quote from: whatlez on July 24, 2013, 11:48:16 AM
I think Euros rig the weighing

its only a 2.9% increase from the worlds and the worlds normally pump out big averages. the top World teams at the moment are faultering abit. The dillos were pumping out 150+ easy when they were at full strength.

If anything the disadvantage to the british and asian as being first year comps they are abit more even. I find comps becomes less even in the trade period and middle of the road team either trade in old guns to lift thier chances or go down the youth path.

Chapman, Boyd, Stevie J, Kornes, Burgoyne. Cross, C. Cornes, Warnock (premo ruck in SC), Sam Gilbert (premo defender without his injury game) all missing from my worlds team last week.

9 players who'd probably all make best XV. It's sickening.

you should get alot of those back soon, lucky for us your elimanted.
Title: Re: World Cup
Post by: Ringo on July 24, 2013, 12:04:28 PM
For next year though I reckon we use finishing positions from this year as the qualif1ers with the Top 16 sides from each comp qualifying for the Cup.  Top 4 from each the automatic Top 4 seeds and we use the % weighting from the season to Determine rank within the 16. (Ranking Teams against each other rather than average score).

% weighting was the only option available for this year and the % are calculated well.,  British were disadvantaged by 2 relative high scoring rounds which inflated the average. For those in British will know the rounds where we had teams score in excess of 2000 points. 
Title: Re: World Cup
Post by: Holz on July 24, 2013, 12:14:18 PM
Quote from: Ringo on July 24, 2013, 12:04:28 PM
For next year though I reckon we use finishing positions from this year as the qualif1ers with the Top 16 sides from each comp qualifying for the Cup.  Top 4 from each the automatic Top 4 seeds and we use the % weighting from the season to Determine rank within the 16. (Ranking Teams against each other rather than average score).

% weighting was the only option available for this year and the % are calculated well.,  British were disadvantaged by 2 relative high scoring rounds which inflated the average. For those in British will know the rounds where we had teams score in excess of 2000 points.

thing is though ringo if you had those high scoring rounds before, whats to stop that happening again and you guys knocking out a bunch of seeds.

the major issue with your idea is teams can change alot with DPP and trades. Look at the eagles last year they were cripled with injuries. than the post season came, alot of players overcame injruies e.g. lecras. Got some very handy DPP e.g. Gibbs and traded very very hard getting rid of all my depth and youth.

Would have been unseeded could have drawn a big seed and kncoked them out.
Title: Re: World Cup
Post by: Hawka on July 24, 2013, 12:32:32 PM
We actually won :.)

lol i just realised the team i beat is the minnow of the world cup haha
Title: Re: World Cup
Post by: Holz on July 24, 2013, 12:35:59 PM
Quote from: Hawka on July 24, 2013, 12:32:32 PM
We actually won :.)

lol i just realised the team i beat is the minnow of the world cup haha

yep, you got the lucky winner of the week with the 6th lowest score but pulled out a win.

you have the 9th seed Bangladesh Bears next round so your going to have to pull out a personal best to take them out.
Title: Re: World Cup
Post by: Colliwobblers on July 24, 2013, 07:11:56 PM
Quote from: Purple 77 on July 24, 2013, 10:34:18 AM
Nearly claimed a seeded team in the Warewolves, good game Winchester!

Oh well, maybe next year.

was a close game, tough week for us i played a spud for cover and gibbs was shocking. wrong captain too.

British is a funny comp there can be huge scores but there can just as easily be very low scores.
Title: Re: World Cup
Post by: Colliwobblers on July 24, 2013, 07:13:51 PM
11 Asians teams through :)

superb.
Title: Re: World Cup
Post by: nostradamus on July 24, 2013, 07:59:48 PM
l can't believe the Crabs won, we're performing way better than we have any right to with such an incredibly young team.

Happy with the Roulettes too  8)

The Crabs willl struggle to last very long in this comp, but with a bit of luck the Roulettes should get close to the pointy end
Title: Re: World Cup
Post by: Justin Bieber on July 25, 2013, 08:06:32 AM
Is there a OP edit? Or....
Title: Re: World Cup
Post by: Holz on July 25, 2013, 11:25:05 AM
Watch out Hedgehogs, the Eagles are coming

(http://download.gamezone.com/uploads/image/data/1100896/sonic_losing_rings.png)
Title: Re: World Cup
Post by: Ringo on July 25, 2013, 01:07:06 PM
Quote from: Holzman on July 24, 2013, 12:14:18 PM
Quote from: Ringo on July 24, 2013, 12:04:28 PM
For next year though I reckon we use finishing positions from this year as the qualif1ers with the Top 16 sides from each comp qualifying for the Cup.  Top 4 from each the automatic Top 4 seeds and we use the % weighting from the season to Determine rank within the 16. (Ranking Teams against each other rather than average score).

% weighting was the only option available for this year and the % are calculated well.,  British were disadvantaged by 2 relative high scoring rounds which inflated the average. For those in British will know the rounds where we had teams score in excess of 2000 points.

thing is though ringo if you had those high scoring rounds before, whats to stop that happening again and you guys knocking out a bunch of seeds.

the major issue with your idea is teams can change alot with DPP and trades. Look at the eagles last year they were cripled with injuries. than the post season came, alot of players overcame injruies e.g. lecras. Got some very handy DPP e.g. Gibbs and traded very very hard getting rid of all my depth and youth.

Would have been unseeded could have drawn a big seed and kncoked them out.
Can understand Holz but I am trying to work out a fairer way for seeds. Speaking from the British, but not sure whether the same in other competitions, seedings fell this way for British team and I will put in Brackets position on British Ladder when competition commenced.
7. Bradford Badgers (6)
10. Nottingham Hoods (2)
14. Winchester Werewolves (1)
15. Swansea Breakers (3)
16, Birmingham Bombers (4)
No disrespect to Lez as he had 3 high scoring rounds but should he go into Worlds as Top seed from British. Do not know the answer though just pointing out the anomalies this year.
Maybe in working out seeds use net for and against or % as it would be a common denominator across all comps.
Title: Re: World Cup
Post by: Holz on July 25, 2013, 01:40:17 PM
Quote from: Ringo on July 25, 2013, 01:07:06 PM
Quote from: Holzman on July 24, 2013, 12:14:18 PM
Quote from: Ringo on July 24, 2013, 12:04:28 PM
For next year though I reckon we use finishing positions from this year as the qualif1ers with the Top 16 sides from each comp qualifying for the Cup.  Top 4 from each the automatic Top 4 seeds and we use the % weighting from the season to Determine rank within the 16. (Ranking Teams against each other rather than average score).

% weighting was the only option available for this year and the % are calculated well.,  British were disadvantaged by 2 relative high scoring rounds which inflated the average. For those in British will know the rounds where we had teams score in excess of 2000 points.

thing is though ringo if you had those high scoring rounds before, whats to stop that happening again and you guys knocking out a bunch of seeds.

the major issue with your idea is teams can change alot with DPP and trades. Look at the eagles last year they were cripled with injuries. than the post season came, alot of players overcame injruies e.g. lecras. Got some very handy DPP e.g. Gibbs and traded very very hard getting rid of all my depth and youth.

Would have been unseeded could have drawn a big seed and kncoked them out.
Can understand Holz but I am trying to work out a fairer way for seeds. Speaking from the British, but not sure whether the same in other competitions, seedings fell this way for British team and I will put in Brackets position on British Ladder when competition commenced.
7. Bradford Badgers (6)
10. Nottingham Hoods (2)
14. Winchester Werewolves (1)
15. Swansea Breakers (3)
16, Birmingham Bombers (4)
No disrespect to Lez as he had 3 high scoring rounds but should he go into Worlds as Top seed from British. Do not know the answer though just pointing out the anomalies this year.
Maybe in working out seeds use net for and against or % as it would be a common denominator across all comps.

not sure about that system, could mean teams that are lucky and have played alot of weak teams in the first half of the year are advantaged.

I dont think who you played should come into it or where you are on the ladder.

Elxam DT is a great example of this. My team had scored top 10 points but is sitting 36th as I have had the most points score on my easy. A seeding of 36 for me woudl be abit ridicolous given the number 1 seed lez would have scored less points than me.

With the pure scroing it doesnt have the bias of who you have played and while lez obviously doesnt consitently go big, the fact he has done it 3 times this year and has scored the most points makes him a big threat.

the champs league is al about ladder postion.
Title: Re: World Cup
Post by: Toga on July 25, 2013, 02:22:56 PM
Yeah IMO it should be based on scoring (as Holz has done for this year).

For example, my Asians team the Lambs are top seeded Asian team because we are leading the comp for total points FOR - followed by the Folders who are like five hundred points behind us... But the Dolphins are on top of the ladder, despite them being the fourth-highest-scoring team!

If we did ladder positions IMO it would be a lot based on luck (and the last year's draw), rather than strength of your team...
Title: Re: World Cup
Post by: ossie85 on July 25, 2013, 02:35:52 PM

Yeah, I like the highest scoring seeds for sure.

Maybe though - and it has flaws - that 4 seeds from each comp?
Title: Re: World Cup
Post by: Holz on July 25, 2013, 02:47:07 PM
Quote from: ossie85 on July 25, 2013, 02:35:52 PM

Yeah, I like the highest scoring seeds for sure.

Maybe though - and it has flaws - that 4 seeds from each comp?

are you sugesting it so just each team had 4 seeds or

say top 4 seeds are the highest from each comp, than 5-8 next highest etc..

as with 4 4 3 5 the seeding was pretty even this year. British had the most seeds but their seeds werent as high as say the worlds.
Title: Re: World Cup
Post by: Ringo on July 25, 2013, 03:27:21 PM
Just going back to the for and against calculations iy would be as follows for British.

Badgers + 126
Hoods +230
Werewolves + 252
Breakers +191
Bombers +87

So if using for and against it takes into consideration any advantage by possibly playing weaker teams early.  IMO it is a more realistic seeding method reflecting the competition coming out of. Just putting it out there as an alternative for those teams that have yet to play the weaker teams when we rate for the World Cup. Still not the ideal situation but maybe closer to true rankings.
Title: Re: World Cup
Post by: Ziplock on July 25, 2013, 03:32:15 PM
the seeds are spread out the way they are due to discrepancies in scoring between teams in their individual competitions. British is  a more evenly distributed competition compared to worlds, so subsequently had more seeds.

I just did the standard deviations for each competition:

Euros: 12.39
Worlds: 14.2
Asia: 8.32
British: 8.63

When all the scores are multiplied by their multipliers however to even them out

Euros: 12.75
Worlds: 14.2
Asia: 6.41
British: 7.48

so these standard deviations and discrepancies in the competitions would show why the seedings are a bit odd

probably messes with the multipliers as well tbh.
Title: Re: World Cup
Post by: LaHug on July 25, 2013, 03:36:05 PM
HOLZ! You didn't change "Bisons" to "Bison" when you update the draw >:(
Title: Re: World Cup
Post by: Holz on July 25, 2013, 03:37:13 PM
Quote from: LaHug on July 25, 2013, 03:36:05 PM
HOLZ! You didn't change "Bisons" to "Bison" when you update the draw >:(

I did however change your name to LaHug in the Euro.
Title: Re: World Cup
Post by: Justin Bieber on July 25, 2013, 03:41:26 PM
The Badgers lead on overall points by a mile. I should be top seed, but 7th overall low considering how much I'm winning in the British comp.  Despite 5th or 6th I have the highest against and have lost to teams who pulled out season high at that stage.
Title: Re: World Cup
Post by: Holz on July 25, 2013, 03:47:21 PM
Quote from: whatlez on July 25, 2013, 03:41:26 PM
The Badgers lead on overall points by a mile. I should be top seed, but 7th overall low considering how much I'm winning in the British comp.  Despite 5th or 6th I have the highest against and have lost to teams who pulled out season high at that stage.

and the Ealges arent deserving of top spot?

We havent even looked like losing all year.
Title: Re: World Cup
Post by: ossie85 on July 25, 2013, 03:54:56 PM

Yeah, I'm happy with Holz seedings :)

The standard deviation thing was interesting! For me though, it has pros and cons either way.

With my Swaggers out of the picture, I'm now unbias towards my World teams.

Go DUBLIN!! The only team on the left side of the draw!

Cairo v Pacific guarantees one team in the quarters.

Titans no match for the rampaging Mexico City Suns.

New Delhi! Can the fairytale continue? (Elephants first win!)

Reendeers deserve some glory after an unlucky World's season

And the Pumas going for the sweep!

Title: Re: World Cup
Post by: LaHug on July 25, 2013, 03:57:24 PM
Quote from: Holzman on July 25, 2013, 03:37:13 PM
Quote from: LaHug on July 25, 2013, 03:36:05 PM
HOLZ! You didn't change "Bisons" to "Bison" when you update the draw >:(

I did however change your name to LaHug in the Euro.
http://youtu.be/lDK9QqIzhwk?t=1m32s
Title: Re: World Cup
Post by: Nige on July 25, 2013, 05:11:58 PM
Cairo look to be in a good spot.  8)
Title: Re: World Cup
Post by: Justin Bieber on July 25, 2013, 05:50:10 PM
Quote from: Holzman on July 25, 2013, 03:47:21 PM
Quote from: whatlez on July 25, 2013, 03:41:26 PM
The Badgers lead on overall points by a mile. I should be top seed, but 7th overall low considering how much I'm winning in the British comp.  Despite 5th or 6th I have the highest against and have lost to teams who pulled out season high at that stage.

and the Ealges arent deserving of top spot?

We havent even looked like losing all year.

Nah but the British really are getting a poor scaling.
Title: Re: World Cup
Post by: Jay on July 25, 2013, 05:52:32 PM
Did the Islanders get through? :o
Title: Re: World Cup
Post by: Ziplock on July 25, 2013, 06:12:39 PM
Quote from: whatlez on July 25, 2013, 05:50:10 PM
Quote from: Holzman on July 25, 2013, 03:47:21 PM
Quote from: whatlez on July 25, 2013, 03:41:26 PM
The Badgers lead on overall points by a mile. I should be top seed, but 7th overall low considering how much I'm winning in the British comp.  Despite 5th or 6th I have the highest against and have lost to teams who pulled out season high at that stage.

and the Ealges arent deserving of top spot?

We havent even looked like losing all year.

Nah but the British really are getting a poor scaling.

yeah... because your competition is significantly higher scoring :S
Title: Re: World Cup
Post by: ossie85 on July 25, 2013, 07:00:08 PM
Quote from: Jayman on July 25, 2013, 05:52:32 PM
Did the Islanders get through? :o

Check out front page
Title: Re: World Cup
Post by: PowerBug on July 25, 2013, 07:01:16 PM
You made an error in the 2nd round matchups. Says Pacific vs Cairo yet on the previous page says Hastings won.
Title: Re: World Cup
Post by: Jay on July 25, 2013, 07:02:26 PM
Quote from: ossie85 on July 25, 2013, 07:00:08 PM
Quote from: Jayman on July 25, 2013, 05:52:32 PM
Did the Islanders get through? :o

Check out front page
I did and it says Islanders will play Cairo but I thought I lost to Hastings.
Title: Re: World Cup
Post by: PowerBug on July 25, 2013, 07:04:38 PM
Quote from: Holzman on July 23, 2013, 11:00:41 PM
Pacific Islanders 133 v Hastings Hurricanes 134
Title: Re: World Cup
Post by: Holz on July 25, 2013, 08:44:21 PM
Quote from: PowerBug on July 25, 2013, 07:01:16 PM
You made an error in the 2nd round matchups. Says Pacific vs Cairo yet on the previous page says Hastings won.

Thanks pb. Sorry for the mistake jay
Title: Re: World Cup
Post by: LaHug on July 26, 2013, 01:07:27 AM
Quote from: Holzman on July 25, 2013, 08:44:21 PM
Quote from: PowerBug on July 25, 2013, 07:01:16 PM
You made an error in the 2nd round matchups. Says Pacific vs Cairo yet on the previous page says Hastings won.

Thanks pb. Sorry for the mistake jay
You know, while you're fixing this, you could drop an 's' from the end of "Bisons"... :P
Title: Re: World Cup
Post by: Toga on July 26, 2013, 08:20:32 AM
Quote from: ossie85 on July 25, 2013, 03:54:56 PM
New Delhi! Can the fairytale continue? (Elephants first win!)

No way, jose!!

Lambies in the way! :P
Title: Re: World Cup
Post by: PowerBug on July 26, 2013, 10:44:44 PM
Cairo too good, i give up already. :P
Title: Re: World Cup
Post by: Justin Bieber on July 27, 2013, 12:04:36 AM
PNL CAN DO THIS! I BELIEVE IN YOU GUYS DESPITE YOUR HORRENDOUS BAD LUCK IN WORLDS! WE CAN BEAT NOTTINGHAM AND TAKE OVER THEIR HOODS!
Title: Re: World Cup
Post by: kilbluff1985 on July 27, 2013, 01:14:12 AM
Quote from: Hellopplz on July 27, 2013, 12:04:36 AM
PNL CAN DO THIS! I BELIEVE IN YOU GUYS DESPITE YOUR HORRENDOUS BAD LUCK IN WORLDS! WE CAN BEAT NOTTINGHAM AND TAKE OVER THEIR HOODS!

after reading that attempted joke your avatar is pretty good commentary lol  :P
Title: Re: World Cup
Post by: Justin Bieber on July 27, 2013, 02:06:09 AM
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on July 27, 2013, 01:14:12 AM
Quote from: Hellopplz on July 27, 2013, 12:04:36 AM
PNL CAN DO THIS! I BELIEVE IN YOU GUYS DESPITE YOUR HORRENDOUS BAD LUCK IN WORLDS! WE CAN BEAT NOTTINGHAM AND TAKE OVER THEIR HOODS!
after reading that attempted joke your avatar is pretty good commentary lol  :P
Going off last round, PNL would have beaten Nottingham by 1 point, so it's possible! That, and I want our supporters to be proud of something this season :P.
Title: Re: World Cup
Post by: Ringo on July 27, 2013, 10:35:05 AM
Quote from: Hellopplz on July 27, 2013, 02:06:09 AM
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on July 27, 2013, 01:14:12 AM
Quote from: Hellopplz on July 27, 2013, 12:04:36 AM
PNL CAN DO THIS! I BELIEVE IN YOU GUYS DESPITE YOUR HORRENDOUS BAD LUCK IN WORLDS! WE CAN BEAT NOTTINGHAM AND TAKE OVER THEIR HOODS!
after reading that attempted joke your avatar is pretty good commentary lol  :P
Going off last round, PNL would have beaten Nottingham by 1 point, so it's possible! That, and I want our supporters to be proud of something this season :P.
Not out of the question as the Hoods only have 3 playing forwards so are playing a player oop.  Will be offset by both Pendles and Ablett though.
Title: Re: World Cup
Post by: PowerBug on July 28, 2013, 09:03:32 AM
So Cairo Sands look like they'll score about 1450, so for me to beat them i'll need 1450*(1/0.8673) am i right? So i'll need to score about 1680 in the Sportal system. :o And i'm currently 792/8, Captain Cornes to come today.

Should be in for another nailbiter.
Title: Re: World Cup
Post by: Nige on July 28, 2013, 11:05:15 AM
Quote from: PowerBug on July 28, 2013, 09:03:32 AM
So Cairo Sands look like they'll score about 1450, so for me to beat them i'll need 1450*(1/0.8673) am i right? So i'll need to score about 1680 in the Sportal system. :o And i'm currently 792/8, Captain Cornes to come today.

Should be in for another nailbiter.

Don't you even dare.  :P
Title: Re: World Cup
Post by: Holz on July 28, 2013, 11:50:27 AM
Folders are in trouble if my 4 players left get their average Dublin will go 160+
Title: Re: World Cup
Post by: Colliwobblers on July 28, 2013, 12:05:28 PM
Quote from: Holzman on July 28, 2013, 11:50:27 AM
Folders are in trouble if my 4 players left get their average Dublin will go 160+

Folders are not in trouble :)

(1724 from 8 + C + VC) FOLDERS  5 to play should go around 2200  whatever that equates to ?
Title: Re: World Cup
Post by: Holz on July 28, 2013, 12:09:01 PM
Quote from: Colliwobblers on July 28, 2013, 12:05:28 PM
Quote from: Holzman on July 28, 2013, 11:50:27 AM
Folders are in trouble if my 4 players left get their average Dublin will go 160+

Folders are not in trouble :)

(1724 from 8 + C + VC) FOLDERS  5 to play should go around 2200  whatever that equates to ?

That's ridicoulous I betterr not go out with a 160. It equates to high 160s by the way. How do you even score that highly can you link/post the scores.
Title: Re: World Cup
Post by: Colliwobblers on July 28, 2013, 01:11:11 PM
* Note captain and vice captain scores NOT counted in the number shown - eg 7 + C + VC means 9 played including C and VC.

Game Centre:   http://forum.fanfooty.com.au/index.php/topic,84803.msg1165080.html#msg1165080

CRABS (1325 from 10 + C + VC) v (1088.5 from 7 + C + VC) CROCODILES

STRIKERS (1279.5 from 9 + VC) v (1724 from 8 + C + VC) FOLDERS

TIGERS (1056 from 11) v (1091 from 8 + C) ELEPHANTS

DOLPHINS (1370 from 9 + C + VC) v (766 from 6 + VC) LLAMAS

BEARS (1529 from 10 + C) v (838 from 9) ESKIMOS

ALES (1092 from 8 + C) v (1373.5 from 7 + C + VC) GAZELLES

LAMBS (927 from 6 + C) v (1,202 from 7 + C + VC) DONGS

HEAD HUNTERS (1395 from 12 + C) v (1376 from 12 + C) VIPERS

Favourites in BOLD as voted by 7 coaches.

Team Lists with individual Scores:  http://forum.fanfooty.com.au/index.php/topic,84802.0.html
Title: Re: World Cup
Post by: Colliwobblers on July 28, 2013, 01:14:57 PM
and for the record BB is away so you need to blame nrich for the team :)
Title: Re: World Cup
Post by: Nails on July 28, 2013, 01:21:42 PM
Maybe I should have made Kornes VC.
Title: Re: World Cup
Post by: Colliwobblers on July 28, 2013, 01:26:31 PM
Quote from: Nails on July 28, 2013, 01:21:42 PM
Maybe I should have made Kornes VC.

I just think you should hire an assistant coach with one job " Your captains coach". how much less stressful would your week be without having to pick captains :)

at least you have options !!
Title: Re: World Cup
Post by: Nige on July 28, 2013, 04:00:25 PM
I pray to God that naming Mackenzie over Newman doesn't cost us the win. Not sure how Hastings are tracking though...
Title: Re: World Cup
Post by: PowerBug on July 28, 2013, 05:42:58 PM
Quote from: NigeyS on July 28, 2013, 04:00:25 PM
I pray to God that naming Mackenzie over Newman doesn't cost us the win. Not sure how Hastings are tracking though...
#crap Cornes spudded.

You'll probably beat me unscaled.
Title: Re: World Cup
Post by: Nige on July 28, 2013, 05:48:32 PM
Quote from: PowerBug on July 28, 2013, 05:42:58 PM
Quote from: NigeyS on July 28, 2013, 04:00:25 PM
I pray to God that naming Mackenzie over Newman doesn't cost us the win. Not sure how Hastings are tracking though...
#crap Cornes spudded.

You'll probably beat me unscaled.

Mackenzie's SC is gonna finish fairly nice it seems, Grigg and Mummy are tracking nicely. Only sweating on Eski.
Title: Re: World Cup
Post by: PowerBug on July 28, 2013, 08:41:20 PM
Cairo almost beat me without my multiplier being used. :P
Title: Re: World Cup
Post by: Nige on July 28, 2013, 08:43:38 PM
Quote from: PowerBug on July 28, 2013, 08:41:20 PM
Cairo almost beat me without my multiplier being used. :P

:o
Title: Re: World Cup
Post by: Justin Bieber on July 28, 2013, 08:44:35 PM
Badgers with season low. Out she goes.
Title: Re: World Cup
Post by: BB67th on July 28, 2013, 08:51:10 PM
By my calculations, the Folders get a massive 171 points after scaling which is enough to defeat Dublin's mid 160s score. The Folders certainly turned up this week :o  Onwards to the next round now!
Title: Re: World Cup
Post by: ossie85 on July 28, 2013, 08:58:39 PM

World Scores without HGA


Cairo Sands   1450
Dublin Destroyers   1600
Mexico City Suns   1489
New Delhi Tigers   1248
PNL Reindeers   1338
Sao Paulo Pumas   1422
Title: Re: World Cup
Post by: Nige on July 28, 2013, 09:01:47 PM
The loss of HGA wiping 100 off our score.  :(
Title: Re: World Cup
Post by: ossie85 on July 28, 2013, 09:02:45 PM
Quote from: NigeyS on July 28, 2013, 09:01:47 PM
The loss of HGA wiping 100 off our score.  :(

60!
Title: Re: World Cup
Post by: Nige on July 28, 2013, 09:09:15 PM
Quote from: ossie85 on July 28, 2013, 09:02:45 PM
Quote from: NigeyS on July 28, 2013, 09:01:47 PM
The loss of HGA wiping 100 off our score.  :(

60!

True. :P I think I'm just a little upset because it looked better with HGA.  ;D
Title: Re: World Cup
Post by: Holz on July 28, 2013, 09:11:23 PM
Quote from: BB67th on July 28, 2013, 08:51:10 PM
By my calculations, the Folders get a massive 171 points after scaling which is enough to defeat Dublin's mid 160s score. The Folders certainly turned up this week :o  Onwards to the next round now!

That's ridicoulous, Asians are dangerous with very up and down scores.
Title: Re: World Cup
Post by: Colliwobblers on July 28, 2013, 09:12:13 PM
AXVS FINAL SCORES - NOT ROUNDED - WITHOUT HGA - INCLUDES 50% PENALTY FOR PLAYERS NAMED OOP.


CRABS (1507.5) v (1786.5) CROCODILES

STRIKERS (1987.5) v (2224) FOLDERS

TIGERS (1764.5) v (1821.5) ELEPHANTS

DOLPHINS (1794) v (1456) LLAMAS

BEARS (2071) v (1489) ESKIMOS

ALES (1592.5) v (2037.5) GAZELLES

LAMBS (1880.5) v (1727) DONGS

HEAD HUNTERS (1674.5) v (1642.5) VIPERS
Title: Re: World Cup
Post by: Nige on July 28, 2013, 09:19:30 PM
So, Cairo vs Strikers?
Title: Re: World Cup
Post by: Ziplock on July 28, 2013, 09:23:25 PM
the large goal bonus in asians means that their scores will fluctuate a lot :P
Title: Re: World Cup
Post by: PowerBug on July 28, 2013, 09:41:56 PM
Quote from: NigeyS on July 28, 2013, 09:19:30 PM
So, Cairo vs Strikers?
Correct! Belarus didn't score enough, so Strikers play Cairo in Rd 3.
Title: Re: World Cup
Post by: Ringo on July 28, 2013, 09:49:17 PM
British XV's scores without home ground advantage for those through to second round,

Hebden Bridge Hedgehogs 1598
Bilston Bunnies 1650
Bradford Badgers 1455
Oxford Owls 1367
Hastings Hurricanes 1575
Swansea Breakers 1835
Nottingham Hoods 1583
Winchester Werewolves 1758

Title: Re: World Cup
Post by: LaHug on July 28, 2013, 09:53:08 PM
Wtf?! How did Strikers (and other Asians) score so highly?! What kind of crazy scoring system do they have? :o
I scored the tiniest bit above the average that got me my seed, Strikers scored miles above their average.
Disappointing way to bail out as it wasn't a poor performance from my Bison :(
Title: Re: World Cup
Post by: Jay on July 28, 2013, 09:55:40 PM
Quote from: LaHug on July 28, 2013, 09:53:08 PM
Wtf?! How did Strikers (and other Asians) score so highly?! What kind of crazy scoring system do they have? :o
I scored the tiniest bit above the average that got me my seed, Strikers scored miles above their average.
Disappointing way to bail out as it wasn't a poor performance from my Bison :(
Sorry LH. Thats what happens when you have Sidey getting x1,5 though ;D
Title: Re: World Cup
Post by: Colliwobblers on July 28, 2013, 09:56:29 PM
Asians :)

get around em'
Title: Re: World Cup
Post by: PowerBug on July 28, 2013, 10:10:11 PM
Quote from: PowerBug on July 28, 2013, 09:03:32 AM
So Cairo Sands look like they'll score about 1450,

Quote from: ossie85 on July 28, 2013, 08:58:39 PM
Cairo Sands   1450


Just sayin' :P
Title: Re: World Cup
Post by: Holz on July 28, 2013, 10:30:09 PM
Quote from: Colliwobblers on July 28, 2013, 09:56:29 PM
Asians :)

get around em'

They will have their down weeks and out they go.
Title: Re: World Cup
Post by: Nige on July 28, 2013, 10:35:08 PM
Quote from: PowerBug on July 28, 2013, 10:10:11 PM
Quote from: PowerBug on July 28, 2013, 09:03:32 AM
So Cairo Sands look like they'll score about 1450,

Quote from: ossie85 on July 28, 2013, 08:58:39 PM
Cairo Sands   1450

Just sayin' :P

Good call!

Quote from: PowerBug on July 28, 2013, 09:41:56 PM
Quote from: NigeyS on July 28, 2013, 09:19:30 PM
So, Cairo vs Strikers?
Correct! Belarus didn't score enough, so Strikers play Cairo in Rd 3.

Woooo! Bring it you Lankans!
Title: Re: World Cup
Post by: nostradamus on July 28, 2013, 10:57:36 PM
A tough week coming up for The Russian Roulettes, we come up against the Manila Folders who are in red hot form

Really need my midfield......Ablett, Swan, Griffen & ROK.......to gun it to stand any chance l think
Title: Re: World Cup
Post by: Nails on July 28, 2013, 11:18:36 PM
I was thinking and I think I might have one issue with the weighting... we probably won't be able to work it out...

But anyway, I'd say generally as the season wears on there are more injuries and more XVs teams struggling to field a full team.

The weighting does take into account the 14 teams in XVs and the different scoring amounts and whatnot...

But the one thing I don't think it truly compensates for is the depth. As we all know the Eagles have a best lineup. This is brought back by some of the weighting but I don't think it truly accounts for the depth. The better players EXVs have in depth in the early rounds aren't getting used much due to minimal injury, but it is giving them a benefit in these later rounds.

Maybe I'm wrong though, or am I confused? IDK
Title: Re: World Cup
Post by: Holz on July 28, 2013, 11:43:56 PM
Quote from: Nails on July 28, 2013, 11:18:36 PM
I was thinking and I think I might have one issue with the weighting... we probably won't be able to work it out...

But anyway, I'd say generally as the season wears on there are more injuries and more XVs teams struggling to field a full team.

The weighting does take into account the 14 teams in XVs and the different scoring amounts and whatnot...

But the one thing I don't think it truly compensates for is the depth. As we all know the Eagles have a best lineup. This is brought back by some of the weighting but I don't think it truly accounts for the depth. The better players EXVs have in depth in the early rounds aren't getting used much due to minimal injury, but it is giving them a benefit in these later rounds.

Maybe I'm wrong though, or am I confused? IDK

It is a point I have thought about but in the case of the eagles is not really true. The reason why I shot up the ladder is I traded away allmy depth iI actually only have 5 forwards, 1 decent ruck and 6 good mids my backline defence is insane though. I'm just lucky I haven't had many injuries I think the most I ever haves had is 3 starters out and when that happens I had to play 2 defenders in the utility spot.
Title: Re: World Cup
Post by: LaHug on July 29, 2013, 12:24:24 AM
One thing I'm curious about is how the average for each comp changes per round. For example, I know a while back (before this comp started) there was an awesome round for SC but it was a poor round for DT. Obviously, this would mean Worlds teams scored higher on average while the EXV teams scored lower.
My query is, would it be better to do scaling on a per round basis? That way, if we have a week where scoring is particularly week in one comp but particularly strong in another, we wouldn't have something like the top scorer for the week in Euro losing to a team who was only the 6th best WXV team that week, just because it was SC friendly and the opposite for DT.
I know nothing about the other scoring systems but I'm sure they have good weeks and bad weeks while other comps have the opposite as well.

If this is completely stupid or doesn't even make sense, feel free to shut me down or disregard :)
Title: Re: World Cup
Post by: Holz on July 29, 2013, 12:56:30 AM
Quote from: LaHug on July 29, 2013, 12:24:24 AM
One thing I'm curious about is how the average for each comp changes per round. For example, I know a while back (before this comp started) there was an awesome round for SC but it was a poor round for DT. Obviously, this would mean Worlds teams scored higher on average while the EXV teams scored lower.
My query is, would it be better to do scaling on a per round basis? That way, if we have a week where scoring is particularly week in one comp but particularly strong in another, we wouldn't have something like the top scorer for the week in Euro losing to a team who was only the 6th best WXV team that week, just because it was SC friendly and the opposite for DT.
I know nothing about the other scoring systems but I'm sure they have good weeks and bad weeks while other comps have the opposite as well.

If this is completely stupid or doesn't even make sense, feel free to shut me down or disregard :)

That is a good idea maybee the scaling should be comp average for the season + comp round average divided by 2.
Title: Re: World Cup
Post by: LaHug on July 29, 2013, 01:44:51 AM
Quote from: Holzman on July 29, 2013, 12:56:30 AM
Quote from: LaHug on July 29, 2013, 12:24:24 AM
One thing I'm curious about is how the average for each comp changes per round. For example, I know a while back (before this comp started) there was an awesome round for SC but it was a poor round for DT. Obviously, this would mean Worlds teams scored higher on average while the EXV teams scored lower.
My query is, would it be better to do scaling on a per round basis? That way, if we have a week where scoring is particularly week in one comp but particularly strong in another, we wouldn't have something like the top scorer for the week in Euro losing to a team who was only the 6th best WXV team that week, just because it was SC friendly and the opposite for DT.
I know nothing about the other scoring systems but I'm sure they have good weeks and bad weeks while other comps have the opposite as well.

If this is completely stupid or doesn't even make sense, feel free to shut me down or disregard :)

That is a good idea maybee the scaling should be comp average for the season + comp round average divided by 2.
:) Anything to even it up in the case of freakishly good/bad rounds for a scoring system sounds good to me.
Title: Re: World Cup
Post by: ossie85 on July 29, 2013, 05:34:01 AM
Sc has the same amount of points each round, no such thing as a good or bad round.

Other scoring systems for sure though
Title: Re: World Cup
Post by: Ringo on July 29, 2013, 08:47:02 AM
Just thinking out Loud for next year/

maybe use the weighting system to decide the seedings and then to make the competition fair all teams then use the SC scoring for the World Cup.  Not ideal because certain scoring systems favour different types of players but probably more fairer than current scaling system.
Title: Re: World Cup
Post by: LaHug on July 29, 2013, 11:46:31 AM
Quote from: Ringo on July 29, 2013, 08:47:02 AM
Just thinking out Loud for next year/

maybe use the weighting system to decide the seedings and then to make the competition fair all teams then use the SC scoring for the World Cup.  Not ideal because certain scoring systems favour different types of players but probably more fairer than current scaling system.
I don't like this at all...
Title: Re: World Cup
Post by: Holz on July 29, 2013, 12:16:35 PM
Quote from: LaHug on July 29, 2013, 11:46:31 AM
Quote from: Ringo on July 29, 2013, 08:47:02 AM
Just thinking out Loud for next year/

maybe use the weighting system to decide the seedings and then to make the competition fair all teams then use the SC scoring for the World Cup.  Not ideal because certain scoring systems favour different types of players but probably more fairer than current scaling system.
I don't like this at all...

agreed ringo. Certain teams woudl get massive advantages.

for example the stallions are a bttom 4 euro team, but they would be a pretty killer SC team.

Danger JPK Nic Nat and Buddy are their best 4 players. average DTers but gun SC players.
Title: Re: World Cup
Post by: Toga on July 29, 2013, 12:48:49 PM
I don't really like that either :-\

The Lambs fwd line is: Stevie J, Jroo, Tippett, Petrie with other guys like Dixon & Bock in the team - very KPF heavy, as the SportsBet scoring method favors Key Fwds more than other comps... So doing it using Sc would seriously hurt the Lamb's chances :(
Title: Re: World Cup
Post by: Ringo on July 29, 2013, 01:39:10 PM
It is probably a case of which system is considered the fairest with the huge variations in scores with Asians and British effected by scaling v a fixed scoring system. Both systems have flaws and I accept the arguments now coming against a fixed scoring system as I was unfamiliar with other scoring systems. Can now see how the Asian teams would be disadvantaged by a fixed SC system.
Not an easy solution to come up with that does not disadvantage any XV comp.  From the British system and based on last weeks scores to get into the top 5 for the week a team would have to score 1745 points to match the minimum 147 using the scaling. Only 2/3 teams may do that each week and some have already been eliminated. As can be seen from last week not one British Team made the Top 5 as no team scored more than 1731 showing the possible wide variation week to week along with the Asians. Euros and Worlds are more consistent and stable.  Whilst it may not be an issue in the early rounds it may be as the competition progresses.
Please note not objecting to the competition just exploring all options to make it fair across the 4 competitions which is proving difficult and Holz has done a good job with the scaling as the option.
Title: Re: World Cup
Post by: ossie85 on July 29, 2013, 01:54:18 PM

How about this....

Scale each competition, with the highest scoring team for that round given a score of '100', and all others scored relatively to that.

I.e.

The Dublin Destroyers score 1650, we give them a score of 100.

The Sao Paulo Pumas score 1500, we give them a score of 1500/1650 = 90.91

And we do that for each league.

If a tie (like 100 v 100), you countback previous rounds?

Title: Re: World Cup
Post by: Ziplock on July 29, 2013, 01:56:52 PM
isn't there a statistical method that gives you a numerical result based on the average and standard deviation? If we use something like that it should roughly limit some of the issues...

that being said, just because the comps with high scoring can go really high, considering we base it off their average they can also go really low, so it evens out :P
Title: Re: World Cup
Post by: Holz on July 29, 2013, 02:26:54 PM
Quote from: Ziplock on July 29, 2013, 01:56:52 PM
isn't there a statistical method that gives you a numerical result based on the average and standard deviation? If we use something like that it should roughly limit some of the issues...

that being said, just because the comps with high scoring can go really high, considering we base it off their average they can also go really low, so it evens out :P

exactly while the asians can knock out teams "better" than them they have to keep posting good scores or they are out.

look at Dublin v Folders.

Dublin 155 and 160 consistent. Folders 140 and omething like 170. If they played round 1 Folders would of got killed.
Title: Re: World Cup
Post by: Toga on July 29, 2013, 03:22:39 PM
Yeah no worries Ringo not saying what you're suggesting is out of the question but just pointing out why things could get complicated with each comps' different scoring...

If you were wondering, goals are worth 12 points alone in Asians, that's why KPFs are more valuable than in something like DT.

I'm not too fussed how it's sorted TBH, happy with the way it's being run at the moment but if something better came up then no problems! :)
Title: Re: World Cup
Post by: Justin Bieber on July 29, 2013, 03:24:53 PM
If its a wet weekend then the British scoring will be Inflated due to lots of contested ball , but may disadvantage Asian due to less goals and key forwards scoring less.
Title: Re: World Cup
Post by: ossie85 on July 29, 2013, 03:36:12 PM
Quote from: whatlez on July 29, 2013, 03:24:53 PM
If its a wet weekend then the British scoring will be Inflated due to lots of contested ball , but may disadvantage Asian due to less goals and key forwards scoring less.

Which is why SC is awesome - rain, hail or shine - 3,300 points per match.
Title: Re: World Cup
Post by: Justin Bieber on July 29, 2013, 03:37:09 PM
Quote from: ossie85 on July 29, 2013, 03:36:12 PM
Quote from: whatlez on July 29, 2013, 03:24:53 PM
If its a wet weekend then the British scoring will be Inflated due to lots of contested ball , but may disadvantage Asian due to less goals and key forwards scoring less.

Which is why SC is awesome - rain, hail or shine - 3,300 points per match.

Didn't disagree
Title: Re: World Cup
Post by: Holz on July 29, 2013, 03:38:45 PM
Quote from: ossie85 on July 29, 2013, 03:36:12 PM
Quote from: whatlez on July 29, 2013, 03:24:53 PM
If its a wet weekend then the British scoring will be Inflated due to lots of contested ball , but may disadvantage Asian due to less goals and key forwards scoring less.

Which is why SC is awesome - rain, hail or shine - 3,300 points per match.

guns team v gun team 3300
spud team v spud team 3300

thats why SC is flawed.
Title: Re: World Cup
Post by: ossie85 on July 29, 2013, 03:53:15 PM
Quote from: Holzman on July 29, 2013, 03:38:45 PM
Quote from: ossie85 on July 29, 2013, 03:36:12 PM
Quote from: whatlez on July 29, 2013, 03:24:53 PM
If its a wet weekend then the British scoring will be Inflated due to lots of contested ball , but may disadvantage Asian due to less goals and key forwards scoring less.

Which is why SC is awesome - rain, hail or shine - 3,300 points per match.

guns team v gun team 3300
spud team v spud team 3300

thats why SC is flawed.

that's the same as saying if a gun team beats another gun team it should be worth more than 4 points, while if a spud team beats a spud team it should be worth less! Each game with 4 points in the AFL, only 4 points are available.

Anyway, aren't you coming 4th in the SC comp :P


Title: Re: World Cup
Post by: Holz on July 29, 2013, 03:58:34 PM
Quote from: ossie85 on July 29, 2013, 03:53:15 PM
Quote from: Holzman on July 29, 2013, 03:38:45 PM
Quote from: ossie85 on July 29, 2013, 03:36:12 PM
Quote from: whatlez on July 29, 2013, 03:24:53 PM
If its a wet weekend then the British scoring will be Inflated due to lots of contested ball , but may disadvantage Asian due to less goals and key forwards scoring less.

Which is why SC is awesome - rain, hail or shine - 3,300 points per match.

guns team v gun team 3300
spud team v spud team 3300

thats why SC is flawed.

that's the same as saying if a gun team beats another gun team it should be worth more than 4 points, while if a spud team beats a spud team it should be worth less! Each game with 4 points in the AFL, only 4 points are available.

Anyway, aren't you coming 4th in the SC comp :P

I am i still dont like the scoring to me it seems made up on the spot. basically i just pick guys who virtual sport seems to be bias towards. I still have no clue how the players get their scores.
Title: Re: World Cup
Post by: ossie85 on July 29, 2013, 04:04:32 PM

SC isn't perfect for sure - but I don't think they are bias. They at least attempt to measure reality, and not only that, create comparable results over time. But I've had this argument many times :P
Title: Re: World Cup
Post by: Holz on July 29, 2013, 04:10:09 PM
Quote from: ossie85 on July 29, 2013, 04:04:32 PM

SC isn't perfect for sure - but I don't think they are bias. They at least attempt to measure reality, and not only that, create comparable results over time. But I've had this argument many times :P

If i win SC though, than my opinion changes and I will be pro SC.
Title: Re: World Cup
Post by: nrich102 on July 29, 2013, 04:14:40 PM
SC is like communism. It seems like a good idea, but it isn't
Title: Re: World Cup
Post by: nostradamus on July 29, 2013, 06:26:38 PM
l think the current equalization system is fine. If we changed it to any specific scoring system (DT, SC, Sportsbet etc) then it would unfairly advantage teams under that umbrella, as they have been specifically selected to score well for it
Title: Re: World Cup
Post by: Ziplock on July 29, 2013, 06:31:38 PM
Quote from: ossie85 on July 29, 2013, 03:53:15 PM
Quote from: Holzman on July 29, 2013, 03:38:45 PM
Quote from: ossie85 on July 29, 2013, 03:36:12 PM
Quote from: whatlez on July 29, 2013, 03:24:53 PM
If its a wet weekend then the British scoring will be Inflated due to lots of contested ball , but may disadvantage Asian due to less goals and key forwards scoring less.

Which is why SC is awesome - rain, hail or shine - 3,300 points per match.

guns team v gun team 3300
spud team v spud team 3300

thats why SC is flawed.

that's the same as saying if a gun team beats another gun team it should be worth more than 4 points, while if a spud team beats a spud team it should be worth less! Each game with 4 points in the AFL, only 4 points are available.

Anyway, aren't you coming 4th in the SC comp :P

Do any of us actually believe that teams should be getting 4 points for beating melbourne and gws? :P
Title: Re: World Cup
Post by: Colliwobblers on July 29, 2013, 06:34:07 PM
sure - as long as we all get to play them the SAME amount of times - which we DON'T

can't complain about the draw, i made one and lets just say it needs work for next season :)
Title: Re: World Cup
Post by: My Chumps on July 29, 2013, 09:09:16 PM
Quote from: nrich102 on July 29, 2013, 04:14:40 PM
SC is like communism. It seems like a good idea, but it isn't
Hahahaha, lost it  :P
Title: Re: World Cup
Post by: SydneyRox on July 30, 2013, 06:04:14 PM
When was round 2 being played?
Title: Re: World Cup
Post by: CrowsFan on July 30, 2013, 06:06:08 PM
Last round. Results aren't up yet though.
Title: Re: World Cup
Post by: Holz on July 30, 2013, 06:10:35 PM
Quote from: SydneyRox on July 30, 2013, 06:04:14 PM
When was round 2 being played?

yeah CF is right last round. Results up tonight
Title: Re: World Cup
Post by: Torpedo10 on July 30, 2013, 06:58:04 PM
SC>DT for the moment.   ;)
Title: Re: World Cup
Post by: Holz on July 30, 2013, 09:09:45 PM
1. Serbian Eagles 160 v Hebden Hedehogs 139
Hongkong Dongs 133 v Bliston Bunnies 143
9. Bangladesh Bears 159 v Dutch Dions 108
Spanish Stallions 103 v 7. Bradford Badgers 126
Taiwon Dolphins 138 v PNG Head Hunters 129
Oxford Owls 119 v UAE Tigers 136
12. Manilla Folders 171 v Dublin Destroyers 160
Macedonian Wolves 1369 v 8.Russian Roulettes 163
Cairo Sands 145 v Hastings Hurricanes 137
Srilanka Strikers 153 v 11.Belarus Bison 143
15. Swansea Breakers 159 v Vietnam Vipers 127
Greek Titans 124 v 3. Mexico City Suns 149
6. Mongolian Lambs 145 v New Dehli Tigers 125
PNL Reindeers 134 v 10.Notingham Hoods 137
14. Winchester Wolves 152 v Bangkok Crabs 116
Laos Elephants 140 v 2.Sao Paulo Pumas 142

Top 5

1. Manilla Folders 171
2. Russian Roulettes 163
3. Dublin Destroyers 160
3. Serbain Eagles 160
5. Bangladesh Bears 159
5. Swansea Breakers 159

unlucky loser:  Dublin Destroyers 160

lucky winner: Bradford Badgers 126

Manilla send out a warning shot to the rest of the comp with a massive 171 in the game of the round taking out the top scoring team from last week and 3rd biggest score of this week in Dublin. Dublin were the last world team on the LHS of the draw and one of the comps favourites. Every seed when through except for the bison.  7th seed Badgers were lucky to go through with the lowest winning score of the round ans 2nd seed Pumas just got through with a 2 point win. The eagles post another big score and look to be one of the teams to beat, The Russian lead by Swan and Ablett got the 2nd biggest score the week and set up a monster clash with the folders.



1.Serbian Eagles    
2.Sao Paulo Pumas    
3.Mexico City Suns    
4.Buenos Aires Armadillos
5.Swedish Metal   
6.Mongolian Lambs   
7.Bradford Badgers    
8.Russian Roulettes   
9.Bangladesh Bears   
10.Nottingham Hoods    
11.Belarus Bisons   
12.Manila Folders   
13.Toronto Wolves    
14.Winchester Werewolves
15.Swansea Breakers    
16.Birmingham Bombers
Title: Re: World Cup
Post by: My Chumps on July 30, 2013, 09:16:11 PM
If the Eagles win this thing I'll be mighty pissed off :P
Title: Re: World Cup
Post by: Holz on July 30, 2013, 09:17:32 PM
Quote from: My Chumps on July 30, 2013, 09:16:11 PM
If the Eagles win this thing I'll be mighty pissed off :P

dont worry i got my own back this week. check out Dublin pump out a monster score and get killed.
Title: Re: World Cup
Post by: My Chumps on July 30, 2013, 09:19:50 PM
Quote from: Holzman on July 30, 2013, 09:17:32 PM
Quote from: My Chumps on July 30, 2013, 09:16:11 PM
If the Eagles win this thing I'll be mighty pissed off :P

dont worry i got my own back this week. check out Dublin pump out a monster score and get killed.
Damn man! Where or what the hell is the Manilla Folders anyway?! :P
Title: Re: World Cup
Post by: BB67th on July 30, 2013, 09:24:19 PM
Quote from: My Chumps on July 30, 2013, 09:19:50 PM
Quote from: Holzman on July 30, 2013, 09:17:32 PM
Quote from: My Chumps on July 30, 2013, 09:16:11 PM
If the Eagles win this thing I'll be mighty pissed off :P

dont worry i got my own back this week. check out Dublin pump out a monster score and get killed.
Damn man! Where or what the hell is the Manilla Folders anyway?! :P
I think you will find that it is Manila :P
Title: Re: World Cup
Post by: Ringo on July 30, 2013, 09:25:26 PM
Still second half of results to be put up Holz.
Title: Re: World Cup
Post by: Maca24 on July 30, 2013, 09:29:47 PM
How'd Mexico go?
Title: Re: World Cup
Post by: Holz on July 30, 2013, 09:39:11 PM
Quote from: Ringo on July 30, 2013, 09:25:26 PM
Still second half of results to be put up Holz.

fully updated, did it in 2 sections.

your lucky Maca, now you need to take out a seed.
Title: Re: World Cup
Post by: nostradamus on July 30, 2013, 09:50:32 PM
Damn l hope my Roulettes can get past the Folders this week

*l think it's only fair that they throw this one for me.........l gave them their name afterall  ;)
Title: Re: World Cup
Post by: Holz on July 30, 2013, 09:51:55 PM
Quote from: nostradamus on July 30, 2013, 09:50:32 PM
Damn l hope my Roulettes can get past the Folders this week

*l think it's only fair that they throw this one for me.........l gave them their name afterall  ;)

they are up and down you should take them out this week. I think they went under 140 in the first week.

Avenge me Nost, do it for the Euro
Title: Re: World Cup
Post by: Justin Bieber on July 30, 2013, 09:52:43 PM
PNL just fell short agains the Hoods :(. Although, compared to some of the beastly scores put up (Manila :o ), doubted we would have lasted too long anyway.
Title: Re: World Cup
Post by: BB67th on July 30, 2013, 09:53:14 PM
Quote from: nostradamus on July 30, 2013, 09:50:32 PM
Damn l hope my Roulettes can get past the Folders this week

*l think it's only fair that they throw this one for me.........l gave them their name afterall  ;)
Going to be an interesting game between us seeing as we both have Swanny as the skipper. I expect a tough game.
Title: Re: World Cup
Post by: Colliwobblers on July 30, 2013, 09:57:57 PM
hoping for another 142 from the pumas and my werewolves will take out that #2 seed. Not much fares well against a werewolf  ;D
Title: Re: World Cup
Post by: Holz on July 30, 2013, 10:00:19 PM
Quote from: Colliwobblers on July 30, 2013, 09:57:57 PM
hoping for another 142 from the pumas and my werewolves will take out that #2 seed. Not much fares well against a werewolf  ;D

you dont want to play Russia than, they might have a silver bullet in their chamber.
Title: Re: World Cup
Post by: nostradamus on July 30, 2013, 10:05:51 PM
Quote from: BB67th on July 30, 2013, 09:53:14 PM
Quote from: nostradamus on July 30, 2013, 09:50:32 PM
Damn l hope my Roulettes can get past the Folders this week

*l think it's only fair that they throw this one for me.........l gave them their name afterall  ;)
Going to be an interesting game between us seeing as we both have Swanny as the skipper. I expect a tough game.

You never know l might go for Ablett or Griffen  :-X
Title: Re: World Cup
Post by: Toga on July 30, 2013, 10:13:09 PM
Hoods: Ablett & Pendles! :o

Hope my boys can rise to the occasion!
Title: Re: World Cup
Post by: Nige on July 30, 2013, 10:20:54 PM
Quote from: Toga on July 30, 2013, 10:13:09 PM
Hope my boys can rise to the occasion!

If not, everyone's invited to Football Factory's place for roast lamb.  ;D
Title: Re: World Cup
Post by: CrowsFan on July 30, 2013, 11:21:25 PM
Quote from: Colliwobblers on July 30, 2013, 09:57:57 PM
hoping for another 142 from the pumas and my werewolves will take out that #2 seed. Not much fares well against a werewolf  ;D
Don't know how you've been going in your comp, but the Pumas are well out of form, which would mean that you would be favourites for the match. From the first 11 rounds I averaged 156.64 (high of 173, low of 142), but over the last 5 rounds my average has dropped to 141.60 (high of 150, low of 131). Shocking form to be in as we approach finals! :(
Title: Re: World Cup
Post by: Colliwobblers on July 30, 2013, 11:28:29 PM
Quote from: CrowsFan on July 30, 2013, 11:21:25 PM
Quote from: Colliwobblers on July 30, 2013, 09:57:57 PM
hoping for another 142 from the pumas and my werewolves will take out that #2 seed. Not much fares well against a werewolf  ;D
Don't know how you've been going in your comp, but the Pumas are well out of form, which would mean that you would be favourites for the match. From the first 11 rounds I averaged 156.64 (high of 173, low of 142), but over the last 5 rounds my average has dropped to 141.60 (high of 150, low of 131). Shocking form to be in as we approach finals! :(

i'm going ok in my comp - or Ringo's comp rather :)

well that's no good, i sincerely hope your team bounces back and returns to form AFTER this round :)

but to be honest while consistent my team is generally not a high scoring one very blue collar - which suits the comp it is in i guess...
Title: Re: World Cup
Post by: Justin Bieber on July 31, 2013, 08:17:52 AM
I got really butt hurt last round and somehow won :)

I swear I was versing Torps magic not Stallions. Phew :)
Title: Re: World Cup
Post by: Torpedo10 on July 31, 2013, 08:22:18 AM
Quote from: whatlez on July 31, 2013, 08:17:52 AM
I got really butt hurt last round and somehow won :)

I swear I was versing Torps magic not Stallions. Phew :)
If you had been would've been a 50 point win.  :o
Title: Re: World Cup
Post by: Ringo on July 31, 2013, 09:54:25 AM
5 British Teams still left - Let the might of Britannia reign in this comp. Show those Ruskis a thing or 2.
Title: Re: World Cup
Post by: Memphistopheles on July 31, 2013, 01:09:45 PM
Quote from: nostradamus on July 30, 2013, 10:05:51 PM
Quote from: BB67th on July 30, 2013, 09:53:14 PM
Quote from: nostradamus on July 30, 2013, 09:50:32 PM
Damn l hope my Roulettes can get past the Folders this week

*l think it's only fair that they throw this one for me.........l gave them their name afterall  ;)
Going to be an interesting game between us seeing as we both have Swanny as the skipper. I expect a tough game.

You never know l might go for Ablett or Griffen  :-X

Seriously how the flower do you have Ablett, Swan and Griffen. That's just ridiculous - your comp must be so one-sided it's not funny.
Title: Re: World Cup
Post by: Nails on July 31, 2013, 01:13:12 PM
To be fair, Griffen was pretty shower last year

I'm flowering mad I traded him last year (in AXVs)
Title: Re: World Cup
Post by: Holz on July 31, 2013, 01:20:39 PM
Quote from: Memphistopheles on July 31, 2013, 01:09:45 PM
Quote from: nostradamus on July 30, 2013, 10:05:51 PM
Quote from: BB67th on July 30, 2013, 09:53:14 PM
Quote from: nostradamus on July 30, 2013, 09:50:32 PM
Damn l hope my Roulettes can get past the Folders this week

*l think it's only fair that they throw this one for me.........l gave them their name afterall  ;)
Going to be an interesting game between us seeing as we both have Swanny as the skipper. I expect a tough game.

You never know l might go for Ablett or Griffen  :-X

Seriously how the flower do you have Ablett, Swan and Griffen. That's just ridiculous - your comp must be so one-sided it's not funny.

this is dream team griffen was only a 97 average player last year thats very average. If it was a SC comp I would agree with you. Plus both are old and his other lines arent that great.

Title: Re: World Cup
Post by: SydneyRox on July 31, 2013, 02:59:56 PM
Running up against #1 Seeds this week, Bunnies are going to struggle :(

Pendles, Boyd, Delidio, Barlow

Vs

Beams, Douglas, Corey, Curnow

Doesnt quite sound like much of a comp!!

:(
Title: Re: World Cup
Post by: Holz on July 31, 2013, 03:04:59 PM
Quote from: SydneyRox on July 31, 2013, 02:59:56 PM
Running up against #1 Seeds this week, Bunnies are going to struggle :(

Pendles, Boyd, Delidio, Barlow

Vs

Beams, Douglas, Corey, Curnow

Doesnt quite sound like much of a comp!!

:(

your unlucky I got boyd back. Lids has been in shocking form.

Beams over Pendles is a big win given mine is DT. Barlow for Curnow is the difference though
Title: Re: World Cup
Post by: Maca24 on July 31, 2013, 03:06:45 PM
Last weeks results?
C'mon Holz.
Title: Re: World Cup
Post by: Holz on July 31, 2013, 03:08:40 PM
Quote from: Maca24 on July 31, 2013, 03:06:45 PM
Last weeks results?
C'mon Holz.

check out page 24, scores updated on that page.

havent been able to update the draw yet as not on the comp I saved it on. Updating now.
Title: Re: World Cup
Post by: Maca24 on July 31, 2013, 03:12:09 PM
No worries!
Dublin unlucky.
Title: Re: World Cup
Post by: Holz on July 31, 2013, 03:18:03 PM
Round 3: When Seeds Colide


1.Serbian Eagles v  Bilston Bunnies
9.Bangladesh Bears v 7.Bradford Badgers
Taiwon Dolphins v UAE Tigers
12.Manila Folders v 8.Russian Roulettes
Cairo Sands v Srilanka Strikers
15.Swansea Breakers v  3.Mexico City Suns
6.Mongolian Lambs v 10.Nottingham Hoods
14.Winchester Wolves v 2.Sao Paulo Pumas








Title: Re: World Cup
Post by: ossie85 on July 31, 2013, 05:17:40 PM
Awesome holz! Only 3 worlds left and they are all on the same side! Decent chance of making final
Title: Re: World Cup
Post by: Nige on July 31, 2013, 05:22:01 PM
Quote from: ossie85 on July 31, 2013, 05:17:40 PM
Awesome holz! Only 3 worlds left and they are all on the same side! Decent chance of making final

We got this.  ;)
Title: Re: World Cup
Post by: CrowsFan on July 31, 2013, 05:31:33 PM
Quote from: ossie85 on July 31, 2013, 05:17:40 PM
Awesome holz! Only 3 worlds left and they are all on the same side! Decent chance of making final
Can't see me getting through this round. Sloane and Masten out of my mids really hurts! :(
Title: Re: World Cup
Post by: Toga on July 31, 2013, 05:31:42 PM
Go Asia!! Still heaps of Asians left! 8)
Title: Re: World Cup
Post by: Colliwobblers on July 31, 2013, 05:36:12 PM
Quote from: Toga on July 31, 2013, 05:31:42 PM
Go Asia!! Still heaps of Asians left! 8)

we are a very balanced comp, lots of even solid teams, and a few superpowers to boot. we have spuds, but even our spuds are better than your average spud  ;D  i should know i am a better than average spud  :o

may the best Asian win ;)
Title: Re: World Cup
Post by: Toga on July 31, 2013, 05:39:58 PM
SuperLambs!! #Baaa
Title: Re: World Cup
Post by: CrowsFan on August 03, 2013, 07:10:01 PM
Quote from: Colliwobblers on July 30, 2013, 11:28:29 PM
Quote from: CrowsFan on July 30, 2013, 11:21:25 PM
Quote from: Colliwobblers on July 30, 2013, 09:57:57 PM
hoping for another 142 from the pumas and my werewolves will take out that #2 seed. Not much fares well against a werewolf  ;D
Don't know how you've been going in your comp, but the Pumas are well out of form, which would mean that you would be favourites for the match. From the first 11 rounds I averaged 156.64 (high of 173, low of 142), but over the last 5 rounds my average has dropped to 141.60 (high of 150, low of 131). Shocking form to be in as we approach finals! :(

i'm going ok in my comp - or Ringo's comp rather :)

well that's no good, i sincerely hope your team bounces back and returns to form AFTER this round :)

but to be honest while consistent my team is generally not a high scoring one very blue collar - which suits the comp it is in i guess...
So glad you also have Roughead and Gunston in your team. Shocking performances by both of them :(
Title: Re: World Cup
Post by: Colliwobblers on August 03, 2013, 07:12:22 PM
Quote from: CrowsFan on August 03, 2013, 07:10:01 PM
Quote from: Colliwobblers on July 30, 2013, 11:28:29 PM
Quote from: CrowsFan on July 30, 2013, 11:21:25 PM
Quote from: Colliwobblers on July 30, 2013, 09:57:57 PM
hoping for another 142 from the pumas and my werewolves will take out that #2 seed. Not much fares well against a werewolf  ;D
Don't know how you've been going in your comp, but the Pumas are well out of form, which would mean that you would be favourites for the match. From the first 11 rounds I averaged 156.64 (high of 173, low of 142), but over the last 5 rounds my average has dropped to 141.60 (high of 150, low of 131). Shocking form to be in as we approach finals! :(

i'm going ok in my comp - or Ringo's comp rather :)

well that's no good, i sincerely hope your team bounces back and returns to form AFTER this round :)

but to be honest while consistent my team is generally not a high scoring one very blue collar - which suits the comp it is in i guess...
So glad you also have Roughead and Gunston in your team. Shocking performances by both of them :(

you have this one, my team is shot to pieces, captain priddis rested (hope eagles lose for it) well i always hope they lose but ....

gunston - spudded, roughead - ordinary, vlastuin pathetic, gibson ordinary, captaincy down to ball....
Title: Re: World Cup
Post by: CrowsFan on August 03, 2013, 08:01:56 PM
Quote from: Colliwobblers on August 03, 2013, 07:12:22 PM
Quote from: CrowsFan on August 03, 2013, 07:10:01 PM
Quote from: Colliwobblers on July 30, 2013, 11:28:29 PM
Quote from: CrowsFan on July 30, 2013, 11:21:25 PM
Quote from: Colliwobblers on July 30, 2013, 09:57:57 PM
hoping for another 142 from the pumas and my werewolves will take out that #2 seed. Not much fares well against a werewolf  ;D
Don't know how you've been going in your comp, but the Pumas are well out of form, which would mean that you would be favourites for the match. From the first 11 rounds I averaged 156.64 (high of 173, low of 142), but over the last 5 rounds my average has dropped to 141.60 (high of 150, low of 131). Shocking form to be in as we approach finals! :(

i'm going ok in my comp - or Ringo's comp rather :)

well that's no good, i sincerely hope your team bounces back and returns to form AFTER this round :)

but to be honest while consistent my team is generally not a high scoring one very blue collar - which suits the comp it is in i guess...
So glad you also have Roughead and Gunston in your team. Shocking performances by both of them :(

you have this one, my team is shot to pieces, captain priddis rested (hope eagles lose for it) well i always hope they lose but ....

gunston - spudded, roughead - ordinary, vlastuin pathetic, gibson ordinary, captaincy down to ball....
Only 200 from Ablett as captain, wouldn't say I have this one by any means... :-\
Title: Re: World Cup
Post by: Adamant on August 03, 2013, 11:35:20 PM
I'm gone this week. Absolutely terrible for round for us.
Title: Re: World Cup
Post by: Nige on August 03, 2013, 11:37:32 PM
Not liking our chances, I think the Strikers might have us...
Title: Re: World Cup
Post by: Justin Bieber on August 04, 2013, 09:50:02 AM
Quote from: Adamant on August 03, 2013, 11:35:20 PM
I'm gone this week. Absolutely terrible for round for us.
Yep Badgers having a good round.
Title: Re: World Cup
Post by: Nige on August 04, 2013, 04:27:16 PM
We're gonna lose to the Strikers. This is flowering bullshower. Asians scoring system is whack. VC multiplier is a joke. Tagging should be forbidden, flower you Kornes.

Rant to be continued after final scores.
Title: Re: World Cup
Post by: Colliwobblers on August 04, 2013, 04:29:29 PM
LOL Nigey- AXVS scoring system and VC multiplier are irrelevant Holz formula takes them into consideration. but how about when a key defender in SC scores 110 and in AXVS he scores 33 ?

as for tagging i could not agree more :)

look forward to continued rant however  ;D
Title: Re: World Cup
Post by: Nige on August 04, 2013, 04:33:29 PM
Quote from: Colliwobblers on August 04, 2013, 04:29:29 PM
LOL Nigey- AXVS scoring system and VC multiplier are irrelevant Holz formula takes them into consideration. but how about when a key defender in SC scores 110 and in AXVS he scores 33 ?

as for tagging i could not agree more :)

look forward to continued rant however  ;D

Sorry Colli, just a tad upset.  :( Not looking forward to Jay bragging either though.  >:( We've been doing so well lately. Can't believe we're gonna crash out.  :'( At least we're in the WXVs finals.  ;D
Title: Re: World Cup
Post by: Colliwobblers on August 04, 2013, 04:42:08 PM
no need to be sorry the rant was quality - not nails quality but a good rant regardless :)

our scoring is a little silly but it was the only one left :)  and it does make creating a list interesting and at least different.

honestly don't know how Holz does the formula for intercomp scoring it cannot be perfect but if I know holz ( that's the guy beating me in SC this week  >:( )  it will be as close to perfect as possible.

Good luck in the worlds finals.
Title: Re: World Cup
Post by: Jay on August 04, 2013, 04:43:48 PM
;) GO YOU SRI LANKANS!

Quote from: NigeyS on August 04, 2013, 04:27:16 PM
We're gonna lose to the Strikers. This is flowering bullshower. Asians scoring system is whack. VC multiplier is a joke. Tagging should be forbidden, flower you Kornes.

Rant to be continued after final scores.
Quote from: NigeyS on August 04, 2013, 04:33:29 PM
Quote from: Colliwobblers on August 04, 2013, 04:29:29 PM
LOL Nigey- AXVS scoring system and VC multiplier are irrelevant Holz formula takes them into consideration. but how about when a key defender in SC scores 110 and in AXVS he scores 33 ?

as for tagging i could not agree more :)

look forward to continued rant however  ;D

Sorry Colli, just a tad upset.  :( Not looking forward to Jay bragging either though.  >:( We've been doing so well lately. Can't believe we're gonna crash out.  :'( At least we're in the WXVs finals.  ;D
Title: Re: World Cup
Post by: Nige on August 04, 2013, 04:45:46 PM
Quote from: Colliwobblers on August 04, 2013, 04:42:08 PM
no need to be sorry the rant was quality - not nails quality but a good rant regardless :)

:o Thank you!  ;D ;D ;D

It's quite tough to beat Nails' ranting, it's on a god-tier level of it's own.  8)
Title: Re: World Cup
Post by: ossie85 on August 04, 2013, 09:03:36 PM

WXV scores without HGA

Cairo Sands   1436
Mexico City Suns   1503
Sao Paulo Pumas   1360
Title: Re: World Cup
Post by: Colliwobblers on August 04, 2013, 09:05:29 PM
AXVS SCORES WITHOUT HGA

CRABS (1522.5) v (1703.5) LLAMAS

STRIKERS (2013.5) v (1825) BEARS

TIGERS (1767.5) v (1904) LAMBS

DOLPHINS (1417.5) v (1626) ELEPHANTS

VIPERS (1628) v (1777.5) CROCODILES

DONGS (1796.5) v (1649) ALES

GAZELLES (1985) v (1948) HEAD HUNTERS

ESKIMOS (1638) v (1957) FOLDERS
Title: Re: World Cup
Post by: CrowsFan on August 04, 2013, 09:13:23 PM
Managed to beat the Werewolves with a score of 136. How lucky! In to the quarter finals I go :)
Title: Re: World Cup
Post by: Ringo on August 04, 2013, 09:19:09 PM
Score Update without HGA and Bonuses for British Teams remaining in World Cup.

Bilston Bunnies 1398
Bradford Badgers 1827
Swansea Breakers 1560
Nottingham Hoods 1392
Winchester Werewolves 1440

Title: Re: World Cup
Post by: Colliwobblers on August 04, 2013, 09:19:23 PM
Quote from: CrowsFan on August 04, 2013, 09:13:23 PM
Managed to beat the Werewolves with a score of 136. How lucky! In to the quarter finals I go :)

no luck we had a barry crocker, but well done on the win seed #2 you probable deserved it, good luck in the rest of the cup.
Title: Re: World Cup
Post by: CrowsFan on August 04, 2013, 09:25:09 PM
Cheers colli. Just wish my players would find the form they had at the start of the season when I was pumping out 160+ regularly. Ossie pointed out I have lost 4 of my last 6 games in worlds :(

Good luck for your finals campaign colli :)
Title: Re: World Cup
Post by: Nige on August 04, 2013, 09:36:15 PM
Absolutely smashed by the Strikers. I'm at a loss for words, it's not even possible for a Worlds team to get close to 2013.5 is it? What a joke. 
Title: Re: World Cup
Post by: Toga on August 04, 2013, 09:36:33 PM
So I think the Lambs are through to the quarters as well, after beating the Hoods?

Lambs vs Pumas next week, could be a good one!
Title: Re: World Cup
Post by: CrowsFan on August 04, 2013, 09:37:38 PM
On current form you've got me covered easily toga ;)
Title: Re: World Cup
Post by: CrowsFan on August 04, 2013, 09:39:18 PM
Quote from: NigeyS on August 04, 2013, 09:36:15 PM
Absolutely smashed by the Strikers. I'm at a loss for words, it's not even possible for a Worlds team to get close to 2013.5 is it? What a joke.
That equates to 1551 for us, so yes entirely possible ;)
Title: Re: World Cup
Post by: Toga on August 04, 2013, 09:39:39 PM
Well see though, Sloaney & Masten back could help you out I think! :-X

We're pretty consistent around the 1900-2000 SB points per week but haven't been going huge as much recently. I'm a bit nervous about this weekend tbh!

Time will tell!
Title: Re: World Cup
Post by: CrowsFan on August 04, 2013, 09:41:16 PM
From what I've read Sloane won't be given the clearance to train until at least Wednesday, so may miss this week, and Masten out for another week or 2 :(
Title: Re: World Cup
Post by: Nige on August 04, 2013, 09:43:50 PM
Quote from: CrowsFan on August 04, 2013, 09:39:18 PM
Quote from: NigeyS on August 04, 2013, 09:36:15 PM
Absolutely smashed by the Strikers. I'm at a loss for words, it's not even possible for a Worlds team to get close to 2013.5 is it? What a joke.
That equates to 1551 for us, so yes entirely possible ;)

Oh, I didn't even know haha. My bad. Still lost by like 115. So yeah, if Douglas didn't get tagged, Eski didn't have a shower first quarter because of his injury and Beams didn't get robbed, we would have won. Not cool. Yeah, I'm being bitter, but I don't care.  :P
Title: Re: World Cup
Post by: Jay on August 04, 2013, 09:48:46 PM
Quote from: NigeyS on August 04, 2013, 09:43:50 PM
Quote from: CrowsFan on August 04, 2013, 09:39:18 PM
Quote from: NigeyS on August 04, 2013, 09:36:15 PM
Absolutely smashed by the Strikers. I'm at a loss for words, it's not even possible for a Worlds team to get close to 2013.5 is it? What a joke.
That equates to 1551 for us, so yes entirely possible ;)

Oh, I didn't even know haha. My bad. Still lost by like 115. So yeah, if Douglas didn't get tagged, Eski didn't have a shower first quarter because of his injury and Beams didn't get robbed, we would have won. Not cool. Yeah, I'm being bitter, but I don't care.  :P
Where's my congratulations message? :P

Strikers went mental this week!
Title: Re: World Cup
Post by: Colliwobblers on August 04, 2013, 09:57:36 PM
Nigey not feeling well right now :)

congrats Jay - Go you good Asian !   ;D
Title: Re: World Cup
Post by: Nige on August 04, 2013, 10:10:13 PM
Quote from: Jayman on August 04, 2013, 09:48:46 PM
Quote from: NigeyS on August 04, 2013, 09:43:50 PM
Quote from: CrowsFan on August 04, 2013, 09:39:18 PM
Quote from: NigeyS on August 04, 2013, 09:36:15 PM
Absolutely smashed by the Strikers. I'm at a loss for words, it's not even possible for a Worlds team to get close to 2013.5 is it? What a joke.
That equates to 1551 for us, so yes entirely possible ;)

Oh, I didn't even know haha. My bad. Still lost by like 115. So yeah, if Douglas didn't get tagged, Eski didn't have a shower first quarter because of his injury and Beams didn't get robbed, we would have won. Not cool. Yeah, I'm being bitter, but I don't care.  :P
Where's my congratulations message? :P

Strikers went mental this week!
Not getting one.  >:(

Quote from: Colliwobblers on August 04, 2013, 09:57:36 PM
Nigey not feeling well right now :)

congrats Jay - Go you good Asian !   ;D

The feeling is not very nice. I'll get over it... eventually.  :P :P
Title: Re: World Cup
Post by: nrich102 on August 05, 2013, 06:04:13 AM
Somehow we may just end up winning :o
Title: Re: World Cup
Post by: Justin Bieber on August 05, 2013, 07:19:07 AM
Badgers beat Bears without scaling :D
Title: Re: World Cup
Post by: BB67th on August 06, 2013, 07:57:21 AM
Manila continue to power forward, and now we have an All-Asian matchup against the Tigers next week. Hope that we can continue our strong form and keep moving forward.
Title: Re: World Cup
Post by: Holz on August 06, 2013, 05:24:32 PM
Round 3: When Seeds Colide


1.Serbian Eagles 144 v  Bilston Bunnies 121
9.Bangladesh Bears 141 v 7.Bradford Badgers 159
Taiwon Dolphins109 v UAE Tigers 136
12.Manila Folders 151 v 8.Russian Roulettes 137
Cairo Sands 144 v Srilanka Strikers 155
15.Swansea Breakers 135 v  3.Mexico City Suns 150
6.Mongolian Lambs 131 v 10.Nottingham Hoods 121
14.Winchester Wolves 125 v 2.Sao Paulo Pumas 136


Top 5:
1. Bradford Badgers 159
2Srilanka Strikers 155
3.Manila Folders 151
4.Mexico City Suns 150
5.Cairo Sands 144
5.Serbian Eagles 144

unlucky loser: Cairo Sands 144 tied 5th highest score

lucky winner: Mongolian Lambs 131 3rd lowest socre.


1.Serbian Eagles    
2.Sao Paulo Pumas    
3.Mexico City Suns    
4.Buenos Aires Armadillos
5.Swedish Metal   
6.Mongolian Lambs   
7.Bradford Badgers    
8.Russian Roulettes   
9.Bangladesh Bears   

10.Nottingham Hoods    
11.Belarus Bisons   
12.Manila Folders   
13.Toronto Wolves    
14.Winchester Werewolves
15.Swansea Breakers    
16.Birmingham Bombers


Title: Re: World Cup
Post by: Holz on August 06, 2013, 05:40:14 PM
Round 4

1.Serbian Eagles   v 7.Bradford Badgers  
UAE Tigers  v  12.Manila Folders
Srilanka Strikers v 3.Mexico City Suns
6.Mongolian Lambs v 2.Sao Paulo Pumas  


4 Asians, 2 Worlds, 1 British and 1 Euro team remain. With the Eagles and Badgers playing each other one comp will be eliminated this week. Tigers and Folders play each other so at least 1 Asian team is making the final 4. Suns and Pumas start as favourites to keep the Worlds hope alive.

Im tipping 1 Euro, 2 Worlds, 1 Asian at the end of this round.
Title: Re: World Cup
Post by: Nige on August 06, 2013, 05:43:11 PM
Unlucky loser, eh? Gee, that one hurts a little.  :(
Title: Re: World Cup
Post by: CrowsFan on August 06, 2013, 05:46:30 PM
If maca and I both end up winning this round, then that will mean we will be playing each other 3 weeks in a row (played each other final round of the WXV, then playing each other this week in first week of finals)! :o
Title: Re: World Cup
Post by: Nige on August 06, 2013, 05:49:31 PM
Quote from: CrowsFan on August 06, 2013, 05:46:30 PM
If maca and I both end up winning this round, then that will mean we will be playing each other 3 weeks in a row (played each other final round of the WXV, then playing each other this week in first week of finals)! :o

A best of three series?  :o I like it!
Title: Re: World Cup
Post by: CrowsFan on August 06, 2013, 05:56:02 PM
Quote from: NigeyS on August 06, 2013, 05:49:31 PM
Quote from: CrowsFan on August 06, 2013, 05:46:30 PM
If maca and I both end up winning this round, then that will mean we will be playing each other 3 weeks in a row (played each other final round of the WXV, then playing each other this week in first week of finals)! :o

A best of three series?  :o I like it!
It would also be the 5th time we have played each other this season. Played twice in the Champions. First lost 168 to 140 in the round of 8, but then beat them in the preliminary final 143 to 133. Quite a rivalry we're building!
Title: Re: World Cup
Post by: Nige on August 06, 2013, 06:01:43 PM
Quote from: CrowsFan on August 06, 2013, 05:56:02 PM
Quote from: NigeyS on August 06, 2013, 05:49:31 PM
Quote from: CrowsFan on August 06, 2013, 05:46:30 PM
If maca and I both end up winning this round, then that will mean we will be playing each other 3 weeks in a row (played each other final round of the WXV, then playing each other this week in first week of finals)! :o

A best of three series?  :o I like it!
It would also be the 5th time we have played each other this season. Played twice in the Champions. First lost 168 to 140 in the round of 8, but then beat them in the preliminary final 143 to 133. Quite a rivalry we're building!
The MexiPaulo Rivalry?  :P
Title: Re: World Cup
Post by: CrowsFan on August 06, 2013, 06:09:58 PM
Quote from: NigeyS on August 06, 2013, 06:01:43 PM
Quote from: CrowsFan on August 06, 2013, 05:56:02 PM
Quote from: NigeyS on August 06, 2013, 05:49:31 PM
Quote from: CrowsFan on August 06, 2013, 05:46:30 PM
If maca and I both end up winning this round, then that will mean we will be playing each other 3 weeks in a row (played each other final round of the WXV, then playing each other this week in first week of finals)! :o

A best of three series?  :o I like it!
It would also be the 5th time we have played each other this season. Played twice in the Champions. First lost 168 to 140 in the round of 8, but then beat them in the preliminary final 143 to 133. Quite a rivalry we're building!
The MexiPaulo Rivalry?  :P
Not the Sao City Rivalry? :P
Title: Re: World Cup
Post by: Colliwobblers on August 06, 2013, 06:18:36 PM
Lambs to bounce back, highest scoring AXVS team for the season

#Baaaaa
Title: Re: World Cup
Post by: Justin Bieber on August 06, 2013, 06:20:38 PM
Quote from: Holzman on August 06, 2013, 05:40:14 PM
Round 4

1.Serbian Eagles   v 7.Bradford Badgers  
UAE Tigers  v  12.Manila Folders
Srilanka Strikers v 3.Mexico City Suns
6.Mongolian Lambs v 2.Sao Paulo Pumas  


4 Asians, 2 Worlds, 1 British and 1 Euro team remain. With the Eagles and Badgers playing each other one comp will be eliminated this week. Tigers and Folders play each other so at least 1 Asian team is making the final 4. Suns and Pumas start as favourites to keep the Worlds hope alive.

Im tipping 1 Euro, 2 Worlds, 1 Asian at the end of this round.

Badgers would of murdered you this week.
Title: Re: World Cup
Post by: Adamant on August 06, 2013, 06:58:57 PM
Can't believe we lost to a team with Paul Puopolo at F1. ::)

Expected to go a lot further here, terrible week for us.

Title: Re: World Cup
Post by: Justin Bieber on August 06, 2013, 07:49:44 PM
Quote from: Adamant on August 06, 2013, 06:58:57 PM
Can't believe we lost to a team with Paul Puopolo at F1. ::)

Expected to go a lot further here, terrible week for us.
Puopolo is in awesome form. Game goes on contested footy and no marks.
Title: Re: World Cup
Post by: Ringo on August 06, 2013, 07:58:52 PM
Keep the British flag flying Lez. We are all behind you Pull out a 2000 mate.
Title: Re: World Cup
Post by: Colliwobblers on August 06, 2013, 08:02:23 PM
Quote from: Ringo on August 06, 2013, 07:58:52 PM
Keep the British flag flying Lez. We are all behind you Pull out a 2000 mate.

cough - um NO - i am playing the dirty badger this week in BXVS finals, so 1350 thanks lez..
Title: Re: World Cup
Post by: SydneyRox on August 06, 2013, 10:50:45 PM
cmon lez!!

#youcandoit
Title: Re: World Cup
Post by: nrich102 on August 07, 2013, 06:21:04 AM
we lost by the multiplier :(
Title: Re: World Cup
Post by: Toga on August 07, 2013, 09:38:20 AM
Quote from: Colliwobblers on August 06, 2013, 06:18:36 PM
Lambs to bounce back, highest scoring AXVS team for the season

#Baaaaa

8)

Need to nail my C/VC choices this week if I'm to win I think... :-X
Title: Re: World Cup
Post by: CrowsFan on August 10, 2013, 03:24:42 PM
Congrats on making it to the semis Lambs...
Title: Re: World Cup
Post by: Toga on August 10, 2013, 06:31:30 PM
Why do you say that CF? Houli, Steve, Hanley, Jroo all good without being spectacular... :-X
Title: Re: World Cup
Post by: Nige on August 10, 2013, 06:35:20 PM
Quote from: Toga on August 10, 2013, 06:31:30 PM
Why do you say that CF? Houli, Steve, Hanley, Jroo all good without being spectacular... :-X

Have you seen the poor Pumas? Duncan subbed for 4 SC.
Title: Re: World Cup
Post by: CrowsFan on August 10, 2013, 07:05:00 PM
Quote from: Toga on August 10, 2013, 06:31:30 PM
Why do you say that CF? Houli, Steve, Hanley, Jroo all good without being spectacular... :-X
I have Houli myself. But basically because as Nigey pointed out I had Duncan who scored 4. Basically playing with 14 players...
Title: Re: World Cup
Post by: Toga on August 10, 2013, 07:40:48 PM
Oh bugger, bad luck mate. But you have GAJ who will score like three players' worth this week lol :-X
Title: Re: World Cup
Post by: Nige on August 10, 2013, 10:38:35 PM
Quote from: Toga on August 10, 2013, 07:40:48 PM
Oh bugger, bad luck mate. But you have GAJ who will score like three players' worth this week lol :-X

So, I think you might have jinxed GAJ.  :o
Title: Re: World Cup
Post by: Toga on August 11, 2013, 12:18:48 AM
:o

Did not see that coming....
Title: Re: World Cup
Post by: CrowsFan on August 11, 2013, 12:22:14 AM
As I said in the Worlds thread, that score was 32 points less than his previous lowest score this season! :o
Title: Re: World Cup
Post by: Maca24 on August 11, 2013, 02:18:51 PM
How is my opponent going?
Title: Re: World Cup
Post by: Jay on August 11, 2013, 05:53:05 PM
Quote from: Maca24 on August 11, 2013, 02:18:51 PM
How is my opponent going?
shower,
Title: Re: World Cup
Post by: Colliwobblers on August 11, 2013, 08:49:27 PM
a VERY tough week for the AXVS scores across the board. might be the week for SC i feel.

Teams still in it from AXVS final scores no HGA:

UAE Tigers - (2034)

MONGOLIAN LAMBS (1887)

MANILA FOLDERS (1972)

SRI LANKA STRIKERS (1688.5)
Title: Re: World Cup
Post by: CrowsFan on August 11, 2013, 08:50:57 PM
Well the Lambs have smashed the Pumas!
Title: Re: World Cup
Post by: Colliwobblers on August 11, 2013, 08:53:23 PM
Quote from: CrowsFan on August 11, 2013, 08:50:57 PM
Well the Lambs have smashed the Pumas!

AXVS got to be scaled down remember ?
Title: Re: World Cup
Post by: Maca24 on August 11, 2013, 08:54:14 PM
I the strikers score 1688 and I score 1366 in worlds, do I lose? :P
Title: Re: World Cup
Post by: BB67th on August 11, 2013, 08:55:42 PM
Folders lose to the Tigers....

How are they still alive here :O
Title: Re: World Cup
Post by: Colliwobblers on August 11, 2013, 08:56:21 PM
Quote from: Maca24 on August 11, 2013, 08:54:14 PM
I the strikers score 1688 and I score 1366 in worlds, do I lose? :P

I'm not sure it gets scaled down that much :)

best ask Holz i don't know his Einstein formula

@ BB - Tigers for the Cup  :o  JROO is up and about
Title: Re: World Cup
Post by: Ringo on August 11, 2013, 09:01:02 PM
Bradford Badgers British score without scaling is 1614 Ben McGlyns 18 really hurting,
Title: Re: World Cup
Post by: Jroo on August 11, 2013, 09:04:39 PM
Quote from: BB67th on August 11, 2013, 08:55:42 PM
Folders lose to the Tigers....

How are they still alive here :O
I've got no idea lol. Somehow I've made it to the last 4  :o
Title: Re: World Cup
Post by: CrowsFan on August 11, 2013, 09:04:52 PM
Quote from: Colliwobblers on August 11, 2013, 08:53:23 PM
Quote from: CrowsFan on August 11, 2013, 08:50:57 PM
Well the Lambs have smashed the Pumas!

AXVS got to be scaled down remember ?
Yeah I know. Their scaled down score is 1,454, which is still far better than my 1,310.

The other scaled Asian scores are:

Tigers - 1,567
Folders - 1,519
Strikers - 1,301
Title: Re: World Cup
Post by: CrowsFan on August 11, 2013, 09:05:37 PM
Quote from: Maca24 on August 11, 2013, 08:54:14 PM
I the strikers score 1688 and I score 1366 in worlds, do I lose? :P
Maca you scored 1,320 (without HGA), but luckily enough it was just enough to win.
Title: Re: World Cup
Post by: CrowsFan on August 11, 2013, 09:12:20 PM
So basically the results are:

Eages 137 lost to Badgers 140
Tigers 157 defeated Folders 152
Strikers 130 lost to Suns 132
Lambs 145 defeated Pumas 131

So the top 2 seeds both crash out in the quarter finals! :o
Title: Re: World Cup
Post by: ossie85 on August 11, 2013, 09:19:42 PM

Go Mexico City!
Title: Re: World Cup
Post by: Ringo on August 11, 2013, 09:27:19 PM
WE in British Salute Bradford and encourage you to take it all the way.
Title: Re: World Cup
Post by: Maca24 on August 11, 2013, 10:55:16 PM
Serbian Eagles also out   ;D
Hopefully I can make the final!
Title: Re: World Cup
Post by: Toga on August 12, 2013, 11:07:02 AM
Hopefully not Maca! >:D

Lambs will be looking for a good week, bring on the Suns!!
Title: Re: World Cup
Post by: Holz on August 14, 2013, 09:53:23 PM
1. Serbian Eages 137 v 7.Bradford Badgers 140[/b]
UAE Tigers 157 v 12. Manilla Folders 152
Srilanka Strikers 130 v 3.Meixco City Suns 132
6.Mongolian Lambs 145 v Sao Paulo Pumas 131

top 5
UAE Tigers 157
Manilla Folders 152
Mongolian Lambs 145
Bradford Badgers 140
Serbian Eages 137

unlucky loser: Manilla Folders 152 2nd best score of the week and go out.

lucky winner: Meixco City Suns 132 3rd worst score of the round and scrape through.


1.Serbian Eagles    
2.Sao Paulo Pumas    
3.Mexico City Suns    
4.Buenos Aires Armadillos
5.Swedish Metal   
6.Mongolian Lambs   
7.Bradford Badgers    
8.Russian Roulettes   
9.Bangladesh Bears   

10.Nottingham Hoods    
11.Belarus Bisons   
12.Manila Folders   
13.Toronto Wolves    
14.Winchester Werewolves
15.Swansea Breakers    
16.Birmingham Bombers

1 unseeded team remains.

1 British, 1 World and 2 Asian Teams are left to take the title.
Title: Re: World Cup
Post by: Ringo on August 15, 2013, 11:07:30 AM
Go you Badgers keep them coming.
Title: Re: World Cup
Post by: Holz on August 15, 2013, 11:09:03 AM
Not too happy about this, put up my weakest score all year and lose in the qualification final in the euro and get knocked out. My first loss all year coming at the worst time of the season.

even worse I had Swallow on utility spot, switched to Dixon and lost 4 points. lost the euro and world cup by 3 points.
Title: Re: World Cup
Post by: ossie85 on August 15, 2013, 11:27:31 AM

Go Maca!

And for the love of God, we can't have an all-Asian final :/
Title: Re: World Cup
Post by: Colliwobblers on August 15, 2013, 02:25:31 PM
May the best Asian win.

And I'm claiming Whatty as an Asian anyway - so 3 chances....
Title: Re: World Cup
Post by: Nails on August 15, 2013, 03:49:58 PM
Go Badgers, the only team I don't have real hate/reason to want to suck remaining
Title: Re: World Cup
Post by: nrich102 on August 15, 2013, 03:50:41 PM
2nd highest score and we still lose :(
Title: Re: World Cup
Post by: Justin Bieber on August 15, 2013, 04:23:24 PM
Quote from: Nails on August 15, 2013, 03:49:58 PM
Go Badgers, the only team I don't have real hate/reason to want to suck remaining

Yay :D lol
Title: Re: World Cup
Post by: CrowsFan on August 15, 2013, 05:33:25 PM
Woo go Badgers! (I am still the number 1 supporter right?) :D
Title: Re: World Cup
Post by: Torpedo10 on August 15, 2013, 08:05:00 PM
Quote from: CrowsFan on August 15, 2013, 05:33:25 PM
Woo go Badgers! (I am still the number 1 supporter right?) :D
Bandwagoner.   ;)
Title: Re: World Cup
Post by: Justin Bieber on August 15, 2013, 08:06:25 PM
Quote from: CrowsFan on August 15, 2013, 05:33:25 PM
Woo go Badgers! (I am still the number 1 supporter right?) :D
Yep. The Badgers have support all over the world lol
Title: Re: World Cup
Post by: CrowsFan on August 15, 2013, 08:23:52 PM
Quote from: Torpedo10 on August 15, 2013, 08:05:00 PM
Quote from: CrowsFan on August 15, 2013, 05:33:25 PM
Woo go Badgers! (I am still the number 1 supporter right?) :D
Bandwagoner.   ;)
How am I a bandwagoner when I was named number 1 supporter basically the day the club was formed? If anything I am hipster because I liked them before they were cool :P
Title: Re: World Cup
Post by: Holz on August 15, 2013, 08:28:24 PM
Quote from: CrowsFan on August 15, 2013, 08:23:52 PM
Quote from: Torpedo10 on August 15, 2013, 08:05:00 PM
Quote from: CrowsFan on August 15, 2013, 05:33:25 PM
Woo go Badgers! (I am still the number 1 supporter right?) :D
Bandwagoner.   ;)
How am I a bandwagoner when I was named number 1 supporter basically the day the club was formed? If anything I am hipster because I liked them before they were cool :P

still not cool.

Take out the comp Lez, im angry at the badgers but technically im an unofficial assistant coach.
Title: Re: World Cup
Post by: Toga on August 15, 2013, 10:31:24 PM
#Baaa >:D

Go you Lambies!
Title: Re: World Cup
Post by: Maca24 on August 15, 2013, 10:44:38 PM
Hodgey back in!
Mexicooooo.
Title: Re: World Cup
Post by: Maca24 on August 16, 2013, 10:45:29 PM
Good start!
Hodge, Lewis and Sidebottom  8)
Glad I dropped Lake.
Title: Re: World Cup
Post by: Toga on August 16, 2013, 11:32:55 PM
Not glad I brought him in to the seniors.... ::)
Title: Re: World Cup
Post by: Justin Bieber on August 17, 2013, 09:09:35 AM
Pop :D

Form of his life :)

But Maxwell :( lol
Title: Re: World Cup
Post by: Jroo on August 17, 2013, 10:52:45 AM
Quote from: whatlez on August 17, 2013, 09:09:35 AM
Pop :D

Form of his life :)

But Maxwell :( lol
Issac Smith was our only player last night and kicked three goals, so I think he'll get a decent score.
Lol I noticed we both have Griffen captain  :o
Title: Re: World Cup
Post by: Jroo on August 18, 2013, 11:23:39 AM
Tigers v Badgers match up is going to be very close.
Tigers 888 unscaled and 684 scaled.
Spurr, Sandilands, Sylvia, Lee, Douglas, Griffen (C) and my Emergency for Ziebell (Farren Ray or Troy Menzel)

Badgers 682 unscaled and 591 scaled.
Barlow, Mzungu, J.White, B.Smith, Minson, Petrenko, Griffen (C)
Title: Re: World Cup
Post by: Toga on August 18, 2013, 11:36:01 AM
Stevie J with a massive 181 as skipper, and a 190 from Big Drew has surely helped the Lambies out a bit.

Malceski, Cooney, Pyke, Tippett, McVeigh to come.
Title: Re: World Cup
Post by: Justin Bieber on August 18, 2013, 01:15:06 PM
The Badgers are going terrible. Probs going to go down.
Title: Re: World Cup
Post by: Toga on August 18, 2013, 01:35:05 PM
How are the Suns going?
Title: Re: World Cup
Post by: Jroo on August 18, 2013, 01:39:03 PM
Quote from: whatlez on August 18, 2013, 01:15:06 PM
The Badgers are going terrible. Probs going to go down.
Sandilands subbed off, flower  >:(
Title: Re: World Cup
Post by: CrowsFan on August 18, 2013, 01:46:40 PM
Quote from: Toga on August 18, 2013, 01:35:05 PM
How are the Suns going?
1,210 with Scott Thompson, Vince, Nick Riewoldt and Sandi left to play today.
Title: Re: World Cup
Post by: Toga on August 18, 2013, 01:51:32 PM
Ok cheers CF, so progress from our game:




Lambs: 1,157 from 10 (891 scaled)

Still to come: O'Keefe (VC), Malceski, Cooney, Pyke, Tippett, McVeigh



Suns: 1,210 from 11

Still to come: Thompson, Vince, Riewoldt, Sandilands




Suns have to be in the box seat atm, although Sandi concussion sub and ROK x 1.5 may help us out a bit..
Title: Re: World Cup
Post by: Jroo on August 18, 2013, 02:13:46 PM
Game over for me.
Sandi subbed and Spurr doing nothing.
Barlow and Mzungu killing it.
flower  >:( :'(
Title: Re: World Cup
Post by: Nige on August 18, 2013, 02:14:51 PM
Sandi's been subbed, the Lambs' chances just improved. #Baaa
Title: Re: World Cup
Post by: Justin Bieber on August 18, 2013, 02:19:51 PM
Quote from: JROO8 on August 18, 2013, 02:13:46 PM
Game over for me.
Sandi subbed and Spurr doing nothing.
Barlow and Mzungu killing it.
flower  >:( :'(

Badgers back in the game with Sandi going down.

The difference will be if Griffen gets high disposals and contested possessions or goals and lots of marks.
Title: Re: World Cup
Post by: Toga on August 18, 2013, 02:26:16 PM
Quote from: NigeyS on August 18, 2013, 02:14:51 PM
Sandi's been subbed, the Lambs' chances just improved. #Baaa

Do we have a new supporter? :P
Title: Re: World Cup
Post by: Nige on August 18, 2013, 02:29:52 PM
Quote from: Toga on August 18, 2013, 02:26:16 PM
Quote from: NigeyS on August 18, 2013, 02:14:51 PM
Sandi's been subbed, the Lambs' chances just improved. #Baaa

Do we have a new supporter? :P

Just quietly, I've always been a fan.  ;) #SupportABrother
Title: Re: World Cup
Post by: nrich102 on August 18, 2013, 04:30:46 PM
Quote from: NigeyS on August 18, 2013, 02:29:52 PM
Quote from: Toga on August 18, 2013, 02:26:16 PM
Quote from: NigeyS on August 18, 2013, 02:14:51 PM
Sandi's been subbed, the Lambs' chances just improved. #Baaa

Do we have a new supporter? :P

Just quietly, I've always been a fan.  ;) #SupportABrother
First you leave to the Llamas, then start supporting our rivals? Traitor.
Title: Re: World Cup
Post by: Toga on August 18, 2013, 04:37:55 PM
Quote from: NigeyS on August 18, 2013, 02:29:52 PM
Quote from: Toga on August 18, 2013, 02:26:16 PM
Quote from: NigeyS on August 18, 2013, 02:14:51 PM
Sandi's been subbed, the Lambs' chances just improved. #Baaa

Do we have a new supporter? :P

Just quietly, I've always been a fan.  ;) #SupportABrother

Yeww! Get around the lambies! #baa


Quote from: nrich102 on August 18, 2013, 04:30:46 PM
First you leave to the Llamas, then start supporting our rivals? Traitor.

He's a smart one isn't he? ;) #baaaanter
Title: Re: World Cup
Post by: Nige on August 18, 2013, 04:40:18 PM
If you can't beat them, bleat with them.  :P
Title: Re: World Cup
Post by: Toga on August 18, 2013, 05:29:27 PM
Tippett the only player doing anything for us tbh... And now subbed off >:(

He'll get a good score but not feeling confident about it :-\
Title: Re: World Cup
Post by: Colliwobblers on August 18, 2013, 08:31:02 PM
AXVS

Tigers = 1591

Lambs = 1823
Title: Re: World Cup
Post by: Justin Bieber on August 18, 2013, 08:32:19 PM
Badgers got like 1460 without Scaling
Title: Re: World Cup
Post by: Ringo on August 18, 2013, 09:08:53 PM
Confirming Badgers score without HGA is 1442.
Title: Re: World Cup
Post by: ossie85 on August 18, 2013, 09:10:24 PM

1530 for Mexico City
Title: Re: World Cup
Post by: Toga on August 18, 2013, 09:12:03 PM
So 1,405 with scaling for the Lambs. Congrats Maca24 & the Suns, the Lambs wish you luck in the finals! :)
Title: Re: World Cup
Post by: Maca24 on August 18, 2013, 09:38:23 PM
Thanks Toga!
Bring on the Badgers :)
Title: Re: World Cup
Post by: Holz on August 18, 2013, 09:41:49 PM
Carn suns.

Do it for the world's.
Title: Re: World Cup
Post by: AFEV on August 18, 2013, 10:32:37 PM
Quote from: Holzman on August 18, 2013, 09:41:49 PM
Carn suns.

Do it for the world's.
And for humanity.

I'm not sure I can tolerate a year of Lez being the reigning world champ. :P
Title: Re: World Cup
Post by: specky92 on August 18, 2013, 10:34:23 PM
Year of the Badger!  ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: World Cup
Post by: Nige on August 18, 2013, 10:36:03 PM
Quote from: specky92 on August 18, 2013, 10:34:23 PM
Year of the Badger!  ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

(http://i562.photobucket.com/albums/ss67/robbywu/badger.gif)
Title: Re: World Cup
Post by: Colliwobblers on August 19, 2013, 12:01:14 AM
Well done to all The AXVS teams, great effort to get so many so far.

Good luck to the grand finalists.
Title: Re: World Cup
Post by: Justin Bieber on August 19, 2013, 07:43:33 AM
Quote from: NigeyS on August 18, 2013, 10:36:03 PM
Quote from: specky92 on August 18, 2013, 10:34:23 PM
Year of the Badger!  ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

(http://i562.photobucket.com/albums/ss67/robbywu/badger.gif)

Hahaha that's our mascot! :P

Quote from: Holzman on August 18, 2013, 09:41:49 PM
Carn suns.

Do it for the world's.

I thought you were unofficial assistant coach :( lol
Title: Re: World Cup
Post by: Ringo on August 19, 2013, 08:36:21 AM
Even though you were eliminated in British guys you will still have to lodge a team this week in the thread so I can advise results.  Keep the British Flag flying and may you have an injury free run.
Title: Re: World Cup
Post by: specky92 on August 19, 2013, 09:06:26 AM
Quote from: Ringo on August 19, 2013, 08:36:21 AM
Even though you were eliminated in British guys you will still have to lodge a team this week in the thread so I can advise results.  Keep the British Flag flying and may you have an injury free run.
thanks Ringo, was just wondering where to post,
Title: Re: World Cup
Post by: Justin Bieber on August 19, 2013, 03:09:28 PM
Quote from: specky92 on August 19, 2013, 09:06:26 AM
Quote from: Ringo on August 19, 2013, 08:36:21 AM
Even though you were eliminated in British guys you will still have to lodge a team this week in the thread so I can advise results.  Keep the British Flag flying and may you have an injury free run.
thanks Ringo, was just wondering where to post,

Might post the stellar team here
Title: Re: World Cup
Post by: Jroo on August 19, 2013, 04:49:04 PM
Quote from: Colliwobblers on August 19, 2013, 12:01:14 AM
Well done to all The AXVS teams, great effort to get so many so far.

Good luck to the grand finalists.
Thans Colli, very glad that I made it to the last four considering I finished 10th in the AXVs comp.
Thanks to Holz,an for running this comp, it was awesome and I'm looking forward to it again next year  :D
Good luck to the Badgers and Suns it's going to be a good match up  :)
Title: Re: World Cup
Post by: Justin Bieber on August 19, 2013, 05:33:03 PM
Dance Badger's Dance

(http://i562.photobucket.com/albums/ss67/robbywu/badger.gif)
Title: Re: World Cup
Post by: My Chumps on August 20, 2013, 04:12:23 PM
For a moment there I didn't think that was his tail...
Title: Re: World Cup
Post by: specky92 on August 20, 2013, 04:23:20 PM
Quote from: My Chumps on August 20, 2013, 04:12:23 PM
For a moment there I didn't think that was his tail...
Haha, I guess we'll leave it up FTP your imagination
Title: Re: World Cup
Post by: Justin Bieber on August 22, 2013, 08:39:15 PM
Pop out!!!! He's been our flowering MVP!!
Title: Re: World Cup
Post by: Colliwobblers on August 22, 2013, 08:50:35 PM
that hurts he has been sensational.
Title: Re: World Cup
Post by: Justin Bieber on August 24, 2013, 04:34:14 PM
So why is the final in round 22 not 23? Just wondering in the logic lol
Title: Re: World Cup
Post by: ossie85 on August 24, 2013, 04:35:26 PM
Scott Thompson for the Suns is huge!
Title: Re: World Cup
Post by: specky92 on August 24, 2013, 04:35:59 PM
Quote from: whatlez on August 24, 2013, 04:34:14 PM
So why is the final in round 22 not 23? Just wondering in the logic lol
#ScottyThompson  :o
Title: Re: World Cup
Post by: specky92 on August 24, 2013, 04:36:32 PM
Quote from: ossie85 on August 24, 2013, 04:35:26 PM
Scott Thompson for the Suns is huge!
beat me to it,  :-X
Title: Re: World Cup
Post by: Justin Bieber on August 24, 2013, 04:38:12 PM
Quote from: specky92 on August 24, 2013, 04:35:59 PM
Quote from: whatlez on August 24, 2013, 04:34:14 PM
So why is the final in round 22 not 23? Just wondering in the logic lol
#ScottyThompson  :o

#BernieVince
Title: Re: World Cup
Post by: Justin Bieber on August 24, 2013, 04:40:16 PM
Quote from: whatlez on August 24, 2013, 04:38:12 PM
Quote from: specky92 on August 24, 2013, 04:35:59 PM
Quote from: whatlez on August 24, 2013, 04:34:14 PM
So why is the final in round 22 not 23? Just wondering in the logic lol
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Title: Re: World Cup
Post by: Justin Bieber on August 25, 2013, 06:03:24 PM
Well the Badgers lost the World Cup.
Title: Re: World Cup
Post by: Holz on August 25, 2013, 06:05:51 PM
Congrats maca truly dominant year.
Title: Re: World Cup
Post by: specky92 on August 25, 2013, 08:24:11 PM
Fairly sure we lost pre scaling, aha, the big guns have let us down, :( well done maca
Title: Re: World Cup
Post by: CrowsFan on August 25, 2013, 08:38:00 PM
Congrats maca. The worlds continue to dominate, picking up the champions league and world cup! ;D
Title: Re: World Cup
Post by: Justin Bieber on August 25, 2013, 08:47:11 PM
Funny and ironic we get season low score :(
Title: Re: World Cup
Post by: Maca24 on August 25, 2013, 08:50:54 PM
Quote from: whatlez on August 25, 2013, 08:47:11 PM
Funny and ironic we get season low score :(
We went huge so don't think it would have mattered?

Thanks guys, appreciate it :)
Title: Re: World Cup
Post by: Colliwobblers on August 25, 2013, 08:54:38 PM
congrats macca, pity your from worlds but well done on the cup. :)
Title: Re: World Cup
Post by: Maca24 on August 25, 2013, 09:02:11 PM
Quote from: Colliwobblers on August 25, 2013, 08:54:38 PM
congrats macca, pity your from worlds but well done on the cup. :)
Thanks Colli! We had a really good week.
Title: Re: World Cup
Post by: My Chumps on August 25, 2013, 09:03:35 PM
Congrats Maca!
Title: Re: World Cup
Post by: Toga on August 26, 2013, 10:46:43 AM
Congrats Mac! :)
Title: Re: World Cup
Post by: Ringo on August 26, 2013, 11:20:42 AM
Congratulations Macca well done and well played Lez to get to the final an awesome achievement in it's own right.

Officially Bradford Badgers scored 1383 there 2nd Lowest score of the year and what a time for them to produce this poor effort. With only 3 players toning it up was always going to be difficult to win.
Title: Re: World Cup
Post by: ossie85 on August 26, 2013, 11:26:26 AM

The WXV final is between the Champions League Premier Sao Paulo against the World Cup Champion Mexico City. Titanic battle for sure