http://www.nmfc.com.au/news/2016-08-24/farewell-our-champions
The club has made the decision to not offer any of the above a contract for 2017.. not sure how I feel about this. Harvey and Dal in particular
Don't think its quite sunk in yet that we'll only get to see these guys play a couple more times. Not allowing any of them to go out on their own terms either kinda sucks
Firrito definitely the right call
Petrie yeh probably as well
Dal Santo 50/50
Harvey stiff
Huge.
Boomer very very stiff.
Going to cull Waite too?
Keep Waite but cull Boomer. What kinda logic is that? :o
Making salary cap space or did they spend it all Wood after his 5 good games?
Quote from: meow meow on August 24, 2016, 01:59:18 PM
Making salary cap space or did they spend it all Wood after his 5 good games?
Yeah I thought clearing up space to make a play at a big name but I'm not really sure who it could be? Unless Brad is just trying to emulate Geelong's last few years clearing out champions against their will?
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Quote from: meow meow on August 24, 2016, 01:59:18 PM
Making salary cap space or did they spend it all Wood after his 5 good games?
Yeah I thought clearing up space to make a play at a big name but I'm not really sure who it could be? Unless Brad is just trying to emulate Geelong's last few years clearing out champions against their will?
Chris Mayne
Not criticising the decision... Though if a player is still in your top 5, I don't really think it matters how old they are.
But the timing seems way off to me.
https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=1766736743609892&id=1541340319482870
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Quote from: meow meow on August 24, 2016, 01:59:18 PM
Making salary cap space or did they spend it all Wood after his 5 good games?
Yeah I thought clearing up space to make a play at a big name but I'm not really sure who it could be? Unless Brad is just trying to emulate Geelong's last few years clearing out champions against their will?
Chris Mayne
Mayne's not exactly a big fish though. if they're clearing iut blokes like Harvey to get blokes like Mayne... well that's pretty flowered :P
Quote from: ossie85 on August 24, 2016, 02:25:40 PM
Not criticising the decision... Though if a player is still in your top 5, I don't really think it matters how old they are.
But the timing seems way off to me.
Exactly. And that's been the club's stance on Boomer for the last few years which is what makes this all the more puzzling
As for the timing, Scott said they brought the decision forward given the possibility that this weekend could be the clubs last game in Melbourne, thus giving fans the opportunity to go and potentially farewell the players
The more I think about this the more and more frustrated I am
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Quote from: meow meow on August 24, 2016, 01:59:18 PM
Making salary cap space or did they spend it all Wood after his 5 good games?
Yeah I thought clearing up space to make a play at a big name but I'm not really sure who it could be? Unless Brad is just trying to emulate Geelong's last few years clearing out champions against their will?
Chris Mayne
Mayne's not exactly a big fish though. if they're clearing iut blokes like Harvey to get blokes like Mayne... well that's pretty flowered :P
ha not exactly big fish, he's nowhere near it :P
I'm curious as to who Scott reckons Boomer is holding out of the side, if he claims this decision has been made to give young guys opportunity
No youngsters have really been knocking down the door, I can see my boy Ryan Clarke filling Dal's shoes, but as for Boomer's role if noone is knocking down the door then why gift them games simply because they're young?
Kayne Turner to fill Harvey's boots. Hasn't played all year.
This is very very strange, two years ago they go after older blokes with experience and now they're all against it.
North will be a rabble without Dal and Boomer
Happy to have Boomer, Dal and Petrie at the hawks for a year!
Quote from: Ricochet on August 24, 2016, 01:15:48 PM
Firrito definitely the right call
Petrie yeh probably as well
Dal Santo 50/50
Harvey stiff
Feel the same mate.
Congrats to all on great careers.
Special mention to Boomer, feel he's a little stiff but progress waits for no man. Wether it's the right call or not only time will tell.
I'll always be grateful to him for the video message he sent that was sincere to a mate who was dying from cancer recently. It meant a hell of alot to John and I know he got a big thrill upon receiving it.
Games record holder (can't see anyone going past it), Premiership player and a great ambassador for our wonderful game.
All the best to all of them with whatever they decide to do in the future.
Quote from: meow meow on August 24, 2016, 01:59:18 PM
Making salary cap space or did they spend it all Wood after his 5 good games?
5 good games is better than no good games!
Yes you know who im talking about ;)
Boyd
Quote from: JBs-Hawks on August 24, 2016, 02:50:59 PM
Happy to have Boomer, Dal and Petrie at the hawks for a year!
Yeah I'd take Boomer at the Eegs for a year or two
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Quote from: meow meow on August 24, 2016, 01:59:18 PM
Making salary cap space or did they spend it all Wood after his 5 good games?
5 good games is better than no good games!
Yes you know who im talking about ;)
Boyd
Hahaha we all know who this is about ;)
Quote from: Koop on August 24, 2016, 01:27:03 PM
Keep Waite but cull Boomer. What kinda logic is that? :o
They are keeping Waite over Petrie based on form this year. That's also if Waite actually decides to go around again.
Quote from: roo boys! on August 24, 2016, 02:39:57 PM
I'm curious as to who Scott reckons Boomer is holding out of the side, if he claims this decision has been made to give young guys opportunity
No youngsters have really been knocking down the door, I can see my boy Ryan Clarke filling Dal's shoes, but as for Boomer's role if noone is knocking down the door then why gift them games simply because they're young?
Jed Anderson would be the guy. They brought him in this year to fill Boomers role in the future. The funny thing with the decision on Boomer is 2 weeks ago after a poor game a lot of people were saying he shouldn't go around again even though he has had his best or second best year hitting the scoreboard. 2 weeks later North actually make the call and the same people will be jumping up and down saying how could they not give Boomer one more year.
I think it might end up being the right call on Boomer for a few reasons. The first is for North to move forward as a club they can't keep relying so heavily on their over 30's like Boomer, Petrie, Waite, Dal etc. They need the next bracket of guys to step up and they may have blown their wad topping up for a premiership run. Once they hit that age it becomes harder to back up week to week before they hit a wall and the performances go off a cliff. You would rather make the call heading into the next season while they are still playing decent footy then hold them for that extra 12 months and have them be a liability. While Boomer's form hasn't been terrible over the course of the season, he is having more bad games with each passing year as you would expect. The last thing they want to do is start playing him in the VFL if his form doesn't warrant selection. We also don't tend to see how guys recover from week to week, if it is taking more and more for him to get up each week the club will be able to see the decline on his body before the general public and supporters do.
I'm actually more surprised they didn't keep Nicky Dal around for one more year just because I think he is one they could get away with playing at the lower level if his form doesn't warrant senior selection.
Feels wrong seeing Harvey dismissed in a wholesale cull like this. I'd expect someone of his eminence/achievement to at least get his own tweet, as opposed to sharing it with 3 others.
Ill go against everyone here and say good call!
Guys like Dumont, Anderson, Turner, Clarke, Hibberd, Mckenzie even Daw up forward need more game time (most of those who played this year only played because of injuries to others) and with Brown, Wood, Waite and Daw dont think petrie will be missed. Also guys like Aaron black who could be playing at some clubs.
Already lost Bastinac last year because of opportunity and rumours that Aaron black wanted to leave because of it. No doubt if they were to keep playing these older guys there would be someone else who would leave for opportunity.
http://www.foxsports.com.au/video/afl/afl/north-bombshell-boomer-axed!542108
Quote from: iZander on August 24, 2016, 05:19:22 PM
Ill go against everyone here and say good call!
Guys like Dumont, Anderson, Turner, Clarke, Hibberd, Mckenzie even Daw up forward need more game time (most of those who played this year only played because of injuries to others) and with Brown, Wood, Waite and Daw dont think petrie will be missed. Also guys like Aaron black who could be playing at some clubs.
Already lost Bastinac last year because of opportunity and rumours that Aaron black wanted to leave because of it. No doubt if they were to keep playing these older guys there would be someone else who would leave for opportunity.
I agree with the first three, but cutting Boomer based on this is so silly imo. He's still in their best 5 players!
Good call the right decision for club you just can't keep playing guys that old , Boomer was playing the best of all 4 but think it's time for him to hang up the boots and be satisfied with what he has achieved.
Brutal by the club, will be good to hear Jim's view on Thurs night. So I guess this means they won't be going after Barlow or Mayne? If they do it will be even more savage.
As Pav said today in his presser "it's a brutal business" and he's right, there's little room for sentiment left in the game.
Sometimes clubs get a perfect opportunity to see off their club favorites sometimes it doesn't pan out the way they would like.
Let's face it when was the right time going to be to say goodbye to Boomer, whenever or however it happened it probably was never going to be what someone of his status in the club deserved. I'm certain the club will honor all 4 off the ground with functions and dinners etc as well as any club could. I think the club has made the right call, arguably gone a year early on a couple namely NDS and Boomer but over the long run I feel they'll of be seen to of made the right call as harsh as it may seem to be right now.
Quote from: Ricochet on August 24, 2016, 01:15:48 PM
Firrito definitely the right call
Petrie yeh probably as well
Dal Santo 50/50
Harvey stiff
Haha, I thought the EXACT same!
I don't buy into the whole taking away opportunities from younger kids argument when it comes to Boomer
Just because the guy won't be around for 10 years doesn't mean you should cull him. Nothing wrong with having 20-21 young players plus him playing
If Wells is able to play on, then why isn't Boomer? Neither are long term
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Quote from: Ricochet on August 24, 2016, 01:15:48 PM
Firrito definitely the right call
Petrie yeh probably as well
Dal Santo 50/50
Harvey stiff
Haha, I thought the EXACT same!
I don't buy into the whole taking away opportunities from younger kids argument when it comes to Boomer
Just because the guy won't be around for 10 years doesn't mean you should cull him. Nothing wrong with having 20-21 young players plus him playing
If Wells is able to play on, then why isn't Boomer? Neither are long term
Now RD, you have to make sure you have room for Farren Ray.
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Firrito definitely the right call
Petrie yeh probably as well
Dal Santo 50/50
Harvey stiff
Haha, I thought the EXACT same!
I don't buy into the whole taking away opportunities from younger kids argument when it comes to Boomer
Just because the guy won't be around for 10 years doesn't mean you should cull him. Nothing wrong with having 20-21 young players plus him playing
If Wells is able to play on, then why isn't Boomer? Neither are long term
Now RD, you have to make sure you have room for Farren Ray.
Waite and Nahas are thrilled to have survived!
Quote from: Ricochet on August 24, 2016, 01:15:48 PM
Firrito definitely the right call - Yep, was done two years ago, got 2 bonus years
Petrie yeh probably as well - yep, should of finished last year, but was contracted this year.
Dal Santo 50/50 - Nup, 100% cooked, has zero pace and unaccountable for his opponent, liability this year already.
Harvey stiff - Maybe, but Brad Scott said the exact same things about Boomer last year and was hesitant to give him this year.
Probably the right call atm, so long as Waite, Ray and Nahas follow out the door at seasons end.
We are the only team in the comp that hasn't got one single game into their 2014 recruits, not one and that's partially because we keep playing these blokes.
It's not so much the decisions to cut them but rather the timing and way they did it.
They would have known these calls were going to be made 6 weeks ago and should have told the players and given them a chance to make the "retirement" announcement to the public and media so it could be seen as a celebration of their career rather than a sacking. Most veterans get this respect even though most have been told by the club that their time is up before they were necessarily ready to give it away.
Can garuntee Firrito and Petrie would have bowed out at the end of the year anyway and Boomer and Dal santo are still easily playing well enough to go around again but if they didn't want them to then they should have given them the chance to announce that on their own terms.
I like the Theory we are making room in the salary cap for a big fish, maybe Jaeger, Lol. Seems strange the day after the Roos cull, he says he wants a trade. We live in hope. :D
Boomer will have no problem finding another club for a short-term coaching/player contract imo
Clarkson was interested in him last season when Nth were still yet to resign him, so I suspect a short-term modest contract with Hawthorn could be a possibility
I;m not surprised on boomer, but I dunno if it's the right call.
Yeah he's really old now, but frankly if he's still one of your best players, and you see yourself tilting for a premiership in the next season (which north probably do) then you should be keeping him.
Maybe Brad Scott had a couple too many concussions back in the day? :P
Quote from: Ziplock on August 27, 2016, 12:32:35 PM
I;m not surprised on boomer, but I dunno if it's the right call.
Yeah he's really old now, but frankly if he's still one of your best players, and you see yourself tilting for a premiership in the next season (which north probably do) then you should be keeping him.
Maybe Brad Scott had a couple too many concussions back in the day? :P
+1
Agree completely, it just doesn't make sense - esp. considering that Boomer carried them through last year's finals campaign (so he's basically the one player they can rely on come finals time)
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I;m not surprised on boomer, but I dunno if it's the right call.
Yeah he's really old now, but frankly if he's still one of your best players, and you see yourself tilting for a premiership in the next season (which north probably do) then you should be keeping him.
Maybe Brad Scott had a couple too many concussions back in the day? :P
+1
Agree completely, it just doesn't make sense - esp. considering that Boomer carried them through last year's finals campaign (so he's basically the one player they can rely on come finals time)
I think Brad Scott knows they arent making finals the next few years :P Lucky to be in it this year. Great call imo
Can't believe there has been so much outrage over Boomer great player but he is pushing 40 the club has given the fans a chance to say goodbye to him and the other guys at home so well done to Norf for that , as for Boomer playing on at another club next year if my club even thought about getting him I would be furious
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I;m not surprised on boomer, but I dunno if it's the right call.
Yeah he's really old now, but frankly if he's still one of your best players, and you see yourself tilting for a premiership in the next season (which north probably do) then you should be keeping him.
Maybe Brad Scott had a couple too many concussions back in the day? :P
+1
Agree completely, it just doesn't make sense - esp. considering that Boomer carried them through last year's finals campaign (so he's basically the one player they can rely on come finals time)
I think Brad Scott knows they arent making finals the next few years :P Lucky to be in it this year. Great call imo
I've got to agree with this observation as well. They are obviously aiming to rebuild. But what I don't understand is their interest in Chris Mayne if they are hoping to make a minor rebuild. It's best to go all in, or hold what you need and trade like Geelong did.
I think he's trying to emulate what his brother did with Geelong to free up salary cap space, but even Geelong keep Enright and Bartel (although it could explain the retention of Waite and Wells). I just think, if they aren't going to do a full rebuild, Harvey would be one to keep in the short-term.
I don't see them making finals next year though - I don't see them making it past week one of this finals series either
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Crossed Mayne off the list already if he was ever really on it. I doubted they would chase him as it would be odd after the delistings they made to then chase Mayne.
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Crossed Mayne off the list already if he was ever really on it. I doubted they would chase him as it would be odd after the delistings they made to then chase Mayne.
Really interesting news, especially in regards to Jaeger :-\
Will Jaeger ever return to fitness, because at this point his future is looking grim :(
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Crossed Mayne off the list already if he was ever really on it. I doubted they would chase him as it would be odd after the delistings they made to then chase Mayne.
Really interesting news, especially in regards to Jaeger :-\
Will Jaeger ever return to fitness, because at this point his future is looking grim :(
I don't know mate I hope he can as it would be a cruel blow if the injury finished him before it all began really.
Certainly a buyer beware situation with him though, failing a test at North doesn't fill me with much confidence.
Other clubs will surely put him through the ringer testing him out like North have.
Looking at the Roo's situation he'd be a player they'd love to have on their list if fit so seeing they failed him it doesn't look good.
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Crossed Mayne off the list already if he was ever really on it. I doubted they would chase him as it would be odd after the delistings they made to then chase Mayne.
Really interesting news, especially in regards to Jaeger :-\
Will Jaeger ever return to fitness, because at this point his future is looking grim :(
I don't know mate I hope he can as it would be a cruel blow if the injury finished him before it all began really.
Certainly a buyer beware situation with him though, failing a test at North doesn't fill me with much confidence.
Other clubs will surely put him through the ringer testing him out like North have.
Looking at the Roo's situation he'd be a player they'd love to have on their list if fit so seeing they failed him it doesn't look good.
There's absolutely no way the Suns are getting two first rounders - I don't think many clubs would risk a top 10 at this point.
I know that if all the Vic teams pass at the trade table, both SA teams aren't interested (I don't know anything about his home state though). But he has requested Vic as his preferred destination so we need not worry about that at this point.
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Crossed Mayne off the list already if he was ever really on it. I doubted they would chase him as it would be odd after the delistings they made to then chase Mayne.
Really interesting news, especially in regards to Jaeger :-\
Will Jaeger ever return to fitness, because at this point his future is looking grim :(
I don't know mate I hope he can as it would be a cruel blow if the injury finished him before it all began really.
Certainly a buyer beware situation with him though, failing a test at North doesn't fill me with much confidence.
Other clubs will surely put him through the ringer testing him out like North have.
Looking at the Roo's situation he'd be a player they'd love to have on their list if fit so seeing they failed him it doesn't look good.
There's absolutely no way the Suns are getting two first rounders - I don't think many clubs would risk a top 10 at this point.
I know that if all the Vic teams pass at the trade table, both SA teams aren't interested (I don't know anything about his home state though). But he has requested Vic as his preferred destination so we need not worry about that at this point.
Absolutely, the Suns asking for a great deal for him has to be out of the question, his value due to the injury and long lay off has diminished considerably and after North knocking him back it's possibly dropped further now. Surely they'll realise this.
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Crossed Mayne off the list already if he was ever really on it. I doubted they would chase him as it would be odd after the delistings they made to then chase Mayne.
Really interesting news, especially in regards to Jaeger :-\
Will Jaeger ever return to fitness, because at this point his future is looking grim :(
I don't know mate I hope he can as it would be a cruel blow if the injury finished him before it all began really.
Certainly a buyer beware situation with him though, failing a test at North doesn't fill me with much confidence.
Other clubs will surely put him through the ringer testing him out like North have.
Looking at the Roo's situation he'd be a player they'd love to have on their list if fit so seeing they failed him it doesn't look good.
There's absolutely no way the Suns are getting two first rounders - I don't think many clubs would risk a top 10 at this point.
I know that if all the Vic teams pass at the trade table, both SA teams aren't interested (I don't know anything about his home state though). But he has requested Vic as his preferred destination so we need not worry about that at this point.
Absolutely, the Suns asking for a great deal for him has to be out of the question, his value due to the injury and long lay off has diminished considerably and after North knocking him back it's possibly dropped further now. Surely they'll realise this.
Yep, hoping they ask for too much, perfect for us!!!!!!!!!
PSD 1 he is!! :D
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Crossed Mayne off the list already if he was ever really on it. I doubted they would chase him as it would be odd after the delistings they made to then chase Mayne.
Really interesting news, especially in regards to Jaeger :-\
Will Jaeger ever return to fitness, because at this point his future is looking grim :(
I don't know mate I hope he can as it would be a cruel blow if the injury finished him before it all began really.
Certainly a buyer beware situation with him though, failing a test at North doesn't fill me with much confidence.
Other clubs will surely put him through the ringer testing him out like North have.
Looking at the Roo's situation he'd be a player they'd love to have on their list if fit so seeing they failed him it doesn't look good.
There's absolutely no way the Suns are getting two first rounders - I don't think many clubs would risk a top 10 at this point.
I know that if all the Vic teams pass at the trade table, both SA teams aren't interested (I don't know anything about his home state though). But he has requested Vic as his preferred destination so we need not worry about that at this point.
Absolutely, the Suns asking for a great deal for him has to be out of the question, his value due to the injury and long lay off has diminished considerably and after North knocking him back it's possibly dropped further now. Surely they'll realise this.
Yep, hoping they ask for too much, perfect for us!!!!!!!!!
PSD 1 he is!! :D
Don't forget his value will keep declining if he keeps failing fitness tests
Either the Suns take a mid-to-late first rounder or Essendon will get him for free