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Title: Australian Survivor S4: Champions v Contenders 2
Post by: Nige on June 23, 2019, 02:40:51 PM
I'm thinking that this deserves it's own thread like we've done for the past few Survivor seasons.

This will almost certainly start airing once Masterchef is done in a few weeks which means it might finish around the time the next American season starts which works nicely.

There's been a number of number of names officially released as contestants this season, while several others have been rumoured and are 'unofficially' confirmed.
Title: Re: Australian Survivor S4: Champions v Contenders 2
Post by: North Melbournes Finest on June 23, 2019, 02:51:33 PM
Really disappointed that they're again using celebrities with little game sense to try and build hype for the show. It's better when it's full of everyday people.
Title: Re: Australian Survivor S4: Champions v Contenders 2
Post by: jvalles69 on June 24, 2019, 11:24:40 AM
Quote from: North Melbournes Finest on June 23, 2019, 02:51:33 PM
Really disappointed that they're again using celebrities with little game sense to try and build hype for the show. It's better when it's full of everyday people.

It is annoying when there are so many real fans out there.  Seems to be famous ppl vs ppl who want to famous.
Title: Re: Australian Survivor S4: Champions v Contenders 2
Post by: Nige on July 23, 2019, 12:27:34 PM
So the full cast was announced the other day and this starts tomorrow.

The social media team reckons it's the best season yet, which is a pretty bold call to make considering they're well aware of the reception the previous seasons have gotten. For those who don't really follow the Australian Survivor socials, they're actually pretty good with their fan and community engagement, and they definitely understand and watch how everything they put out is received and respond accordingly.

Here's a list of all the cast with individual pics and like two lines on each: https://10daily.com.au/entertainment/tv/a190719xqvft/australian-survivor-2019-heres-your-full-list-of-champions-and-contenders-20190721

(https://cdn.newsapi.com.au/image/v1/266744e909b0bc4c459ab9df00e3e337)
Title: Re: Australian Survivor S4: Champions v Contenders 2
Post by: RaisyDaisy on July 23, 2019, 12:44:38 PM
Looking forward to this

Not quite sure how they plan on spinning Luke as a Champion
Title: Re: Australian Survivor S4: Champions v Contenders 2
Post by: Nige on July 23, 2019, 01:12:36 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on July 23, 2019, 12:44:38 PM
Looking forward to this

Not quite sure how they plan on spinning Luke as a Champion
Most people love him and so they won't need to do much, he's the people's champion!
Title: Re: Australian Survivor S4: Champions v Contenders 2
Post by: jvalles69 on July 25, 2019, 06:11:29 PM
Early thoughts?  Looks a whole lot more polished, by why oh why so many episodes in a week FFS?

Think the poker player looks like he'll go far, plenty characters with little to 0 screen time.  I'm not sure if Susie Maroney or the stacked blonde on the contenders tribe actually speak?  Nova seems like a weirdo.  Platinum blonde dude sounds/looks like a douche of the maximum order.
Title: Re: Australian Survivor S4: Champions v Contenders 2
Post by: Nige on July 25, 2019, 06:35:51 PM
It's always been multiple episodes a week, and as far as I'm concerned, that's a good thing. Australian Survivor has 24 contestants. There's no way they'd be doing an episode a week. It started yesterday and is on again tonight, then will run Sunday, Monday, Tuesday as its regular timeslots once Bachelor starts on Wednesday, nothing wrong with that.

Anyway, definitely seems like it has potential to be an interesting season. Overall, the champions are weaker and the contenders are stronger I think. Low visibility of the contenders last night was because they didn't go to tribal. Andy is definitely being set up as the villain for however long he lasts (I think he'll go pre-merge) but he's entertaining and yesterday he won them the IC, which is why he got so much airtime.

Susie was an odd one to complain about not speaking, she didn't have a lot of content overall, but she said more than Simon who was probably the quietest champion over the course of the episode.

I expect we'll get more focus and content from the contenders tonight and hopefully get to hear from more than Andy, Daisy, John and Baden.
Title: Re: Australian Survivor S4: Champions v Contenders 2
Post by: RaisyDaisy on July 25, 2019, 09:53:22 PM
Complaining about multiple episodes a week?  ???

3 eps a week is nice

I like the look of John the mullet - he's a fighter and real team player

The stacked blonde (Sam?) is certainly easy on the eyes  ;)

Baden looks like he could struggle a bit

Title: Re: Australian Survivor S4: Champions v Contenders 2
Post by: jvalles69 on July 25, 2019, 10:18:59 PM
3 is fine, I just assumed it was 5, but I guess that's just crossover weeks.
Title: Re: Australian Survivor S4: Champions v Contenders 2
Post by: Nige on July 25, 2019, 10:52:30 PM
If anyone wants to see more of Sam, she was on The Amazing Race Australia S1.

And speaking of, apparently 10's reviving TAR and it'll air later this year (so probably after Survivor finishes) with Beau Ryan as host.
Title: Re: Australian Survivor S4: Champions v Contenders 2
Post by: jvalles69 on July 26, 2019, 12:16:34 AM
Quote from: Nige on July 25, 2019, 10:52:30 PM
If anyone wants to see more of Sam, she was on The Amazing Race Australia S1.

And speaking of, apparently 10's reviving TAR and it'll air later this year (so probably after Survivor finishes) with Beau Ryan as host.

And if you want to see more...checkout her Instagram.  :P
Title: Re: Australian Survivor S4: Champions v Contenders 2
Post by: jvalles69 on July 26, 2019, 01:00:53 PM
Pretty hardcore challenge last night!  That suction from the mud would be nuts on top of the weight already.

The reward challenge was a bit strange sitting someone out, but not everyone participating anyway, and ET going twice...or did they edit runs out?

Refraining from looking at betting odds at this stage...
Title: Re: Australian Survivor S4: Champions v Contenders 2
Post by: Nige on July 26, 2019, 01:20:51 PM
JLP tweeted that it took 30 mins for the teams to drag the boxes through the mud, it looked brutal. Challenges like that are part of the reason I don't think I could ever do the show hahaha.

Generally, with challenges like the reward challenge, there are turns they edit out, but teams would have been able to pick the combinations they wanted. They just pick and choose the ones for television, hence why we saw Baden and Hannah have a go but eventually get beaten with ease. We never saw Simon participate even though he seemed like an obvious choice but I'm sure he would have had at least one go.

Also haven't looked at the odds but wouldn't be surprised if Pia is the favourite with the bookies. That confessional of hers in ep 1 about either being first boot or the winner was very convenient, and editors love soundbites that foreshadow like that. I think she's got all the skills to make it far/to the end. But the Australian Survivors are also pretty clever, she might just be being set up for a deep run without winning, despite that confessional.
Title: Re: Australian Survivor S4: Champions v Contenders 2
Post by: kilbluff1985 on July 26, 2019, 10:08:12 PM
love luke
Title: Re: Australian Survivor S4: Champions v Contenders 2
Post by: SilverLion on July 29, 2019, 12:11:07 PM
Love that they brought Luke back as well, was my favourite from S2.
Title: Re: Australian Survivor S4: Champions v Contenders 2
Post by: jvalles69 on July 29, 2019, 12:49:07 PM
Quote from: SilverLion on July 29, 2019, 12:11:07 PM
Love that they brought Luke back as well, was my favourite from S2.

Wasn't a massive fan of him in the previous season, but he's certainly growing on me in this season.
Title: Re: Australian Survivor S4: Champions v Contenders 2
Post by: kilbluff1985 on July 29, 2019, 01:10:28 PM
btw was surprised that survivor super fan guy on contenders didnt talk about looking for a clue with the box like how luke did with the raft
Title: Re: Australian Survivor S4: Champions v Contenders 2
Post by: jvalles69 on July 30, 2019, 11:43:18 AM
The witch rarely goes home this early! Glad it happened though, couldn't stand that nasty dog.
Title: Re: Australian Survivor S4: Champions v Contenders 2
Post by: kilbluff1985 on July 31, 2019, 02:03:43 AM
lol david
Title: Re: Australian Survivor S4: Champions v Contenders 2
Post by: kilbluff1985 on August 05, 2019, 04:45:50 PM
so contenders will be resting 4 tonight lol
Title: Re: Australian Survivor S4: Champions v Contenders 2
Post by: Nige on August 05, 2019, 05:28:43 PM
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on August 05, 2019, 04:45:50 PM
so contenders will be resting 4 tonight lol
Tribe swap in the preview
Title: Re: Australian Survivor S4: Champions v Contenders 2
Post by: kilbluff1985 on August 05, 2019, 05:38:29 PM
Quote from: Nige on August 05, 2019, 05:28:43 PM
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on August 05, 2019, 04:45:50 PM
so contenders will be resting 4 tonight lol
Tribe swap in the preview

rigged
Title: Re: Australian Survivor S4: Champions v Contenders 2
Post by: jvalles69 on August 06, 2019, 12:03:48 PM
Lol at Daves comment about not liking Sam's face so she's got to go.  ;D
Title: Re: Australian Survivor S4: Champions v Contenders 2
Post by: RaisyDaisy on August 06, 2019, 12:42:44 PM
Quote from: jvalles69 on August 06, 2019, 12:03:48 PM
Lol at Daves comment about not liking Sam's face so she's got to go.  ;D

Haha yeah that made me laugh too lol

Title: Re: Australian Survivor S4: Champions v Contenders 2
Post by: jvalles69 on August 06, 2019, 01:38:39 PM
Really like Abbey, but man she can be naive, calling Harry the most genuine family man after he lied about a child, she's too emotional to go to the end.

Also don't really like Dave as he's playing the villain, but he could definitely match it with the Americans on the US version.
Title: Re: Australian Survivor S4: Champions v Contenders 2
Post by: kilbluff1985 on August 07, 2019, 05:49:10 PM
feel like we getting different challenges than usual which is good
Title: Re: Australian Survivor S4: Champions v Contenders 2
Post by: SilverLion on August 09, 2019, 04:32:14 PM
Wonder how many episodes before Black actually starts playing the game lol
Title: Re: Australian Survivor S4: Champions v Contenders 2
Post by: Nige on August 09, 2019, 05:35:22 PM
Quote from: jvalles69 on August 06, 2019, 01:38:39 PM
Really like Abbey, but man she can be naive, calling Harry the most genuine family man after he lied about a child, she's too emotional to go to the end.

Also don't really like Dave as he's playing the villain, but he could definitely match it with the Americans on the US version.

Calling her naive because she's showing emotion? There's no way for her to actually know whether Harry actually has a kid or not. We the viewers have the benefit of that, but there's no way she'd have known at the time. Emotion isn't a bad thing either, means you're keeping it real. I have no doubt Abbey is long for the game, she's well connected and has formed strong bonds that will help make it deep.

Dave's a great part of this season. Super entertaining villain. I like that he's actually breaking the model archetype quite a bit and gaming hard (even if he's gone power crazy and is overplaying like hell).

Quote from: kilbluff1985 on August 07, 2019, 05:49:10 PM
feel like we getting different challenges than usual which is good

Agreed, it's been a really good season for challenges so far. Lots of unique ones and the classics (or elements of the classics) that they've brought back are great.

Quote from: SilverLion on August 09, 2019, 04:32:14 PM
Wonder how many episodes before Black actually starts playing the game lol

Simon's done well to be the last really staunch member of the 'sporty 7' left standing. I think the swap really helped him get the fresh start he needed too. He even got a confessional now and seems a bit more involved now. He's probably playing the game more than the edit is letting on (that was the case for Sam too from all reports) but he's obviously not that relevant to the main storylines going on and was ultimately just another member of a big alliance whose main members (the visible game players) were getting picked off, but the swap came at the right time for him as I said.
Title: Re: Australian Survivor S4: Champions v Contenders 2
Post by: North Melbournes Finest on August 10, 2019, 12:43:50 PM
David has been my favourite from the start. There's nothing better than a great villain they make the game interesting, imagine if we had a bunch of Simon Black's the show would be cancelled within two weeks. David has been a great find and beyond this season I think we'll be seeing a lot more of David.
Title: Re: Australian Survivor S4: Champions v Contenders 2
Post by: RaisyDaisy on August 10, 2019, 02:30:18 PM
I agree, David has been awesome

Title: Re: Australian Survivor S4: Champions v Contenders 2
Post by: kilbluff1985 on August 12, 2019, 02:07:11 PM
one of the best tribals last night lol
Title: Re: Australian Survivor S4: Champions v Contenders 2
Post by: Nige on August 12, 2019, 10:07:07 PM
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on August 12, 2019, 02:07:11 PM
one of the best tribals last night lol
And they managed to top it tonight, phenomenal viewing honestly.
Title: Re: Australian Survivor S4: Champions v Contenders 2
Post by: jvalles69 on August 13, 2019, 11:30:35 AM
Simon Black lived up to my childhood expectations, first the speech then challenge domination.  :-*
Title: Re: Australian Survivor S4: Champions v Contenders 2
Post by: SilverLion on August 19, 2019, 11:32:00 AM
Quote from: jvalles69 on August 13, 2019, 11:30:35 AM
Simon Black lived up to my childhood expectations, first the speech then challenge domination.  :-*
Title: Re: Australian Survivor S4: Champions v Contenders 2
Post by: kilbluff1985 on August 20, 2019, 02:02:54 PM
 :'(
Title: Re: Australian Survivor S4: Champions v Contenders 2
Post by: RaisyDaisy on August 20, 2019, 02:23:37 PM
It's hilarious how much Andy rates himself as a player but he's so out of his depth and bad  ;D
Title: Re: Australian Survivor S4: Champions v Contenders 2
Post by: jvalles69 on August 20, 2019, 11:28:54 PM
Geezus, they way particular cast members are "finding" idols is an actual farce.
Title: Re: Australian Survivor S4: Champions v Contenders 2
Post by: RaisyDaisy on August 21, 2019, 12:33:48 AM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on August 20, 2019, 02:23:37 PM
It's hilarious how much Andy rates himself as a player but he's so out of his depth and bad  ;D

Haha, timed this well

Was gold watching him just sit there as Luke outed him hahaha
Title: Re: Australian Survivor S4: Champions v Contenders 2
Post by: Rusty00 on August 21, 2019, 11:07:55 AM
Quote from: jvalles69 on August 20, 2019, 11:28:54 PM
Geezus, they way particular cast members are "finding" idols is an actual farce.
This is the first real season I've watched most of. Is it usual for there to be this many idols?
Title: Re: Australian Survivor S4: Champions v Contenders 2
Post by: jvalles69 on August 21, 2019, 11:20:59 AM
Quote from: Rusty00 on August 21, 2019, 11:07:55 AM
Quote from: jvalles69 on August 20, 2019, 11:28:54 PM
Geezus, they way particular cast members are "finding" idols is an actual farce.
This is the first real season I've watched most of. Is it usual for there to be this many idols?

It's becoming a bit more frequent, but over the last few seasons including US there have been quite a few multiple idols in play.  I just find it funny how particular survivors seem to find the idol all the time, and that reward challenge Daisy one was ridiculous with how much she got out of it!
Title: Re: Australian Survivor S4: Champions v Contenders 2
Post by: kilbluff1985 on August 27, 2019, 03:10:09 PM
 ;)
Title: Re: Australian Survivor S4: Champions v Contenders 2
Post by: crowls on August 27, 2019, 10:48:54 PM
david - done and dusted.       luke wont hold on, as nobody is game to go into final three with him.
baden, harry, maybe daisy/pia to win.
Title: Re: Australian Survivor S4: Champions v Contenders 2
Post by: jvalles69 on August 28, 2019, 11:11:06 AM
Quote from: crowls on August 27, 2019, 10:48:54 PM
david - done and dusted.       luke wont hold on, as nobody is game to go into final three with him.
baden, harry, maybe daisy/pia to win.

I haven't been game to look at the betting odds as it's probably already known.  :-\
Title: Re: Australian Survivor S4: Champions v Contenders 2
Post by: jvalles69 on August 28, 2019, 11:20:01 AM
Lol, Daisy is a moron.
Title: Re: Australian Survivor S4: Champions v Contenders 2
Post by: RaisyDaisy on August 28, 2019, 01:34:51 PM
Quote from: jvalles69 on August 28, 2019, 11:20:01 AM
Lol, Daisy is a moron.

She's so easy to play against and they know it. Just place the smallest amount of doubt/fear towards her and she crumbles

They even said that John would get the votes as Daisy/Harry was too predictable, but then she does the opposite because the smallest amount of fear turns her to mush

Title: Re: Australian Survivor S4: Champions v Contenders 2
Post by: jvalles69 on August 28, 2019, 01:39:44 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on August 28, 2019, 01:34:51 PM
Quote from: jvalles69 on August 28, 2019, 11:20:01 AM
Lol, Daisy is a moron.

She's so easy to play against and they know it. Just place the smallest amount of doubt/fear towards her and she crumbles

They even said that John would get the votes as Daisy/Harry was too predictable, but then she does the opposite because the smallest amount of fear turns her to mush

And she's selfish, there was never a scenario where she wouldn't play the idol for herself I don't think, she's all talk and then pussies out.  Who put the solitary vote on Harry?  That was weird.
Title: Re: Australian Survivor S4: Champions v Contenders 2
Post by: RaisyDaisy on September 02, 2019, 09:51:22 PM
Thought she was going to whimp out, but that was *lick fingers* delicious

Can't wait to see tomorrow's ep!
Title: Re: Australian Survivor S4: Champions v Contenders 2
Post by: jvalles69 on September 03, 2019, 02:37:50 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on September 02, 2019, 09:51:22 PM
Thought she was going to whimp out, but that was *lick fingers* delicious

Can't wait to see tomorrow's ep!

I don't really see the point of what Abbey did?  It's almost like making a move for the sake of it, bad timing in my opinion especially if Simon wins (which from the ad it looks unlikely, but that could be to throw us off).  Abbey was basically top 3 with Pia and Janine, now she drops to a group that could end up with Abbey, Luke, Harry, Baden and Daisy...she's 5th on that list IMO.
Title: Re: Australian Survivor S4: Champions v Contenders 2
Post by: RaisyDaisy on September 03, 2019, 03:24:52 PM
Quote from: jvalles69 on September 03, 2019, 02:37:50 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on September 02, 2019, 09:51:22 PM
Thought she was going to whimp out, but that was *lick fingers* delicious

Can't wait to see tomorrow's ep!

I don't really see the point of what Abbey did?  It's almost like making a move for the sake of it, bad timing in my opinion especially if Simon wins (which from the ad it looks unlikely, but that could be to throw us off).  Abbey was basically top 3 with Pia and Janine, now she drops to a group that could end up with Abbey, Luke, Harry, Baden and Daisy...she's 5th on that list IMO.

I agree about the timing - I questioned that too - probably best to blindside to get them out, not when they can possibly return

As for the second part, she was never going to win vs Pia/Janine anyway as she has just hidden behind those two all season basically, but now she has a better chance vs champions, and they now have the numbers even if Simon returns. At least she can possibly win if she's vs 1-2 contenders at the end, where as she would be zero chance against Janine/Pia

Looking forward to see how it all plays out
Title: Re: Australian Survivor S4: Champions v Contenders 2
Post by: jvalles69 on September 03, 2019, 04:48:05 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on September 03, 2019, 03:24:52 PM
Quote from: jvalles69 on September 03, 2019, 02:37:50 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on September 02, 2019, 09:51:22 PM
Thought she was going to whimp out, but that was *lick fingers* delicious

Can't wait to see tomorrow's ep!

I don't really see the point of what Abbey did?  It's almost like making a move for the sake of it, bad timing in my opinion especially if Simon wins (which from the ad it looks unlikely, but that could be to throw us off).  Abbey was basically top 3 with Pia and Janine, now she drops to a group that could end up with Abbey, Luke, Harry, Baden and Daisy...she's 5th on that list IMO.

I agree about the timing - I questioned that too - probably best to blindside to get them out, not when they can possibly return

As for the second part, she was never going to win vs Pia/Janine anyway as she has just hidden behind those two all season basically, but now she has a better chance vs champions, and they now have the numbers even if Simon returns. At least she can possibly win if she's vs 1-2 contenders at the end, where as she would be zero chance against Janine/Pia

Looking forward to see how it all plays out

I think she's also zero chance against Harry and Luke too, a toss up with Baden, Simon and Daisy...but at least she would make final 3, don't think she does in the current scenario.
Title: Re: Australian Survivor S4: Champions v Contenders 2
Post by: jvalles69 on September 11, 2019, 11:25:07 AM
Luke playing MVP level Survivor.
Title: Re: Australian Survivor S4: Champions v Contenders 2
Post by: RaisyDaisy on September 18, 2019, 08:45:12 AM
As soon as Baden won the final challenge you just knew that it was actually him who was going to be picking the winner, as whoever he chose was always going to win

9-0 landslide said it all. Overall I thought it was an excellent season, really loved it

As for next season, having an All-stars season with returning players when there's only been 3 seasons seems pretty silly lol that's 33% of all people to ever have played returning lol

I guess it could be all-stars vs new people, but the impression I got from the short trailer I saw suggested the former. Guess we'll have to wait and see - either way can't wait!
Title: Re: Australian Survivor S4: Champions v Contenders 2
Post by: JBs-Hawks on September 18, 2019, 03:16:59 PM
Yea was spewing he chose Pia
Title: Re: Australian Survivor S4: Champions v Contenders 2
Post by: jvalles69 on September 18, 2019, 06:31:02 PM
Pretty sure the cast has been leaked for the all-star season coming up.
Title: Re: Australian Survivor S4: Champions v Contenders 2
Post by: Nige on September 18, 2019, 07:35:29 PM
Honestly this was a really good season. It got especially interesting after merge I thought. We got a lot of top tier characters and that made it all the better.

Baden winning the FIC was fun I thought, even though I really wanted it to be Harry after Luke went at F4, I loved how he was just showertalking the entire time and then stepped off like it was nothing after he won when Harry and Pia needed help down.

Unfortunately for him, he was damned either way. I daresay Harry would have swept the floor with him as well, but it does suck that he didn't even get a single vote. His awkward nature got the better of him when the jury arked up whereas Pia was able to bite back.

Speaking of, she was a solid winner but her winner's edit seemed relatively obvious, the foreshadowing from her confessional in ep 1 certainly didn't help.

Love that Luke's getting all this money from the gofundme, shows the generosity of people and just how good a fella he is that everyone loves him and wants to get behind him.

Quote from: jvalles69 on September 18, 2019, 06:31:02 PM
Pretty sure the cast has been leaked for the all-star season coming up.
It has.

It's also basically been confirmed by Kat from S1 as well.

We have a 5-7-7-5 split from the 4 seasons thus far and I think it's actually a pretty solid cast for the most part.

We'll make a new thread for it.