Howe to Ridley
Noble to Butler (via DPP)
Howe Fyfe to Boak Lloyd. Love the idea of Ridley but I have Short so don't want to double up on risk.
Howe out for ?. I need to see BE's for my second trade. Might grab Hill
Got Stewart, Howe and Fyfe with a 67 overall rank ??? ???
Tempted to keep Fyfe.. Stewart & Howe to Daniel & Lloyd.. But might depend on whether one of Bennell or Pickett come back in.
Howe --> Lloyd
Fyfe --> T.Mitchell
I avoided most of the injuries this week after the carnage of last week.
Only have Howe and Hamill (hopefully Danger is all good)
Howe > Daniel is 90% locked in. Don't trust Maynard to keep his role with Howe out, Sicily seems to only turn up for a quarter, Lloyd is too expensive.
The other trade will depend on selection.
I think I'll bring in one of Green, Bennell or Hill. They all carry huge risks though which sucks.
Also, does someone mind giving me Viney's BE?
Quote from: jbjimmyjb on June 28, 2020, 11:43:54 PM
Also, does someone mind giving me Viney's BE?
125
I need to trade Howe, but other than that I am not sure what I will be doing
There's a lot of rookies/160-200k types on the bubble this week, and although it's not a great bunch, I am starting to think we might not have too many more rookie downgrade options come through now, so I'm considering a double downgrade this week just to ensure I have rookies making money - not to mention my bench cover is loaded with donuts atm too
1 rookie and 1 premo, or 2 rookies? Will likely just need to wait to see team selections
Howe to Lloyd and BZT to Serong via DPP. Holding Fyfe for now. Luckily most of the first gamers were anywhere from awful to average aside from Serong/Hill. It does, however, mean I need one of Pickett/Bennell/Robertson to play.
I was thinking a double downgrade due to the sheer amount of rookies that are due to play. So Howe to Hill was the move I was initially thinking. Then I saw the scores Rivers, King, Brander, Budarick and Taylor came up with this week.
Right now if I was to go Howe to Hill I'd have to field 4 of Noble Starcevich, Rivers, Williamson, Young and Hill/Brander in defense and 3 of Taylor, Budarick, King, Cameron and Brander/Hill.
I'm contemplating Ridley so I finally put my money where my mouth is and bring him into my side. He also banks me about 100k which I can use for future upgrades.
I currently have Nic Nat at R2 and Pitto at R3. I like the juicy matchups for him, but with Pitto killing it I'm thinking I need the points on the field and make the two trades that way.
the fixture has been changed this week for the covid curse.
tigers v melb now and syd play westcoast :o
Two of Howe, Stewart and Fyfe to two players that are no doubt about to get injured. ::)
Five injured premiums in two weeks must be some kind of record for me.
Quote from: no eye deer on June 29, 2020, 03:15:09 PM
Two of Howe, Stewart and Fyfe to two players that are no doubt about to get injured. ::)
Five injured premiums in two weeks must be some kind of record for me.
Let us know who you chose as replacements as early as you can so I know who to avoid ... lol
thinking viney/sturt to hill/bennell
need some rooks that will score and viney BE 125 this week so he has probably maxxed out. Leaves me with 370k for upgrades next week or week after. Probably bring whitfield back in two weeks time. danger, lloyd or daniel all targets as well.
Viney 7th highest average pure mid?
Quote from: Ingram on June 29, 2020, 07:23:21 PM
Viney 7th highest average pure mid?
viney was always a cash grab option. BE 125 is a historic 85-90 scorer, outside round 1 massive score he is likely to lose cash this week. Time to grab the cash and move on, free's up cash for next upgrade.
Definitely something to consider. I can hold Fyfe and go Howe/Viney to Ridley/Boak with 41k in the kitty.
Anyone fancy dicks on?
Will make heaps of gash - oops - cash
Can trade in 1 who would yas go?
Maynard/Daniel/Haynes/Saad
Thinking: Howe to Bomtempelli, C.Taylor to Hill.
Leaves me with 300k to hopefully go T.Brown to Dangerfield next week. My midfield would be elite.
Neale, Fyfe, Cripps, Mitchell, Bontempelli, Dangerfield, Rowell and Hannebury (unless I trade him this week?).
Quote from: Dmoney$ on June 30, 2020, 12:03:57 AM
Can trade in 1 who would yas go?
Maynard/Daniel/Haynes/Saad
I'll make a seperate poll. Think everyone will be asking this question!
Anyone holding Fyfe?
Quote from: bkimm32 on June 30, 2020, 09:08:53 AM
Anyone holding Fyfe?
Yeah going to hold at this stage
Do we think it's too late to bring in Simpkin or are we thinking he's a FWD keeper?
Quote from: mjmmjm34 on June 30, 2020, 11:28:03 AM
Do we think it's too late to bring in Simpkin or are we thinking he's a FWD keeper?
He keeps racking up the high scores and I have been avoiding him due to lack of high scoring history, but becoming hard to pass up now.
My first trade will be Howe- Simpkin via Brander
Unsure who to trade Stewart for
Lloyd/Daniel/Haynes/Ridley??
Man, Whitfield is 40K cheaper than Simpkin. :o
Quote from: jvalles69 on June 30, 2020, 03:22:02 PM
Man, Whitfield is 40K cheaper than Simpkin. :o
yep, Whitfield to Simpkin last week already netted $90k ;)
Quote from: frenzy on June 30, 2020, 03:38:12 PM
Quote from: jvalles69 on June 30, 2020, 03:22:02 PM
Man, Whitfield is 40K cheaper than Simpkin. :o
yep, Whitfield to Simpkin last week already netted $90k ;)
+1
At the moment Howe to Lloyd and possibly Fyfe to Gaff depending on how long Fyfe is esrimated to be out. If I keep Fyfe will look at a rookie downgrade for further cash.
I know those who traded out Whitfield might have been able to generate some cash from it. If you decide to get him back in, you would have used a trade to get him out, then another to get him back in. If he gets injured again, you will use another trade to get him out again and for what? Some extra cash?
Quote from: Wanderer on June 30, 2020, 04:32:40 PM
I know those who traded out Whitfield might have been able to generate some cash from it. If you decide to get him back in, you would have used a trade to get him out, then another to get him back in. If he gets injured again, you will use another trade to get him out again and for what? Some extra cash?
Cash that enables upgrade of other areas of your team. Already 34 points ahead as well after 1 week.
Quote from: Rusty00 on June 30, 2020, 04:58:23 PM
Quote from: Wanderer on June 30, 2020, 04:32:40 PM
I know those who traded out Whitfield might have been able to generate some cash from it. If you decide to get him back in, you would have used a trade to get him out, then another to get him back in. If he gets injured again, you will use another trade to get him out again and for what? Some extra cash?
Cash that enables upgrade of other areas of your team. Already 34 points ahead as well after 1 week.
Or never started with him. 8)
Quote from: jvalles69 on June 30, 2020, 05:14:11 PM
Quote from: Rusty00 on June 30, 2020, 04:58:23 PM
Quote from: Wanderer on June 30, 2020, 04:32:40 PM
I know those who traded out Whitfield might have been able to generate some cash from it. If you decide to get him back in, you would have used a trade to get him out, then another to get him back in. If he gets injured again, you will use another trade to get him out again and for what? Some extra cash?
Cash that enables upgrade of other areas of your team. Already 34 points ahead as well after 1 week.
Or never started with him. 8)
Brown or Taylor will become Whitfield in another week or two. For loose change really. 8)
Currently running with Howe/Stewart -> Ridley/TMitch.
May "risk it" by going Simpkin instead of TMitch ???
Pickett to Serong locked in
just don't know if i should trade Howe to Maynard or Stephen Hill
if i go Hill i can upgrade Noble next week and nearly have enough cash for upgrading Starc or whoever to
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on June 30, 2020, 06:39:53 PM
Pickett to Serong locked in
just don't know if i should trade Howe to Maynard or Stephen Hill
if i go Hill i can upgrade Noble next week and nearly have enough cash for upgrading Starc or whoever to
What if Pickett is named this week?
Quote from: frenzy on June 30, 2020, 05:40:01 PM
Quote from: jvalles69 on June 30, 2020, 05:14:11 PM
Quote from: Rusty00 on June 30, 2020, 04:58:23 PM
Quote from: Wanderer on June 30, 2020, 04:32:40 PM
I know those who traded out Whitfield might have been able to generate some cash from it. If you decide to get him back in, you would have used a trade to get him out, then another to get him back in. If he gets injured again, you will use another trade to get him out again and for what? Some extra cash?
Cash that enables upgrade of other areas of your team. Already 34 points ahead as well after 1 week.
Or never started with him. 8)
Brown or Taylor will become Whitfield in another week or two. For loose change really. 8)
I can't wait to come up against the teams in the finals that spent so many trades bringing him in and out. That's if the season lasts that long. There will be carnage during finals for sure.
It's a good strategy if you are going for overall though.
Loving Boak flying under the radar. Bit ridiculous really.
Quote from: Wanderer on June 30, 2020, 07:45:21 PM
Quote from: frenzy on June 30, 2020, 05:40:01 PM
Quote from: jvalles69 on June 30, 2020, 05:14:11 PM
Quote from: Rusty00 on June 30, 2020, 04:58:23 PM
Quote from: Wanderer on June 30, 2020, 04:32:40 PM
I know those who traded out Whitfield might have been able to generate some cash from it. If you decide to get him back in, you would have used a trade to get him out, then another to get him back in. If he gets injured again, you will use another trade to get him out again and for what? Some extra cash?
Cash that enables upgrade of other areas of your team. Already 34 points ahead as well after 1 week.
Or never started with him. 8)
Brown or Taylor will become Whitfield in another week or two. For loose change really. 8)
I can't wait to come up against the teams in the finals that spent so many trades bringing him in and out. That's if the season lasts that long. There will be carnage during finals for sure.
It's a good strategy if you are going for overall though.
I think LUCK is the only thing that separates the top end of supercoach. You could be sitting up top and avoided this weeks carnage, how? luck. But I also think you need to generate your own luck. I had big plans for Naismith if he tonned up again last week and didn't destroy his knee. But as Luck has it, I cancelled them and we move on.
Did anyone watch the Freo game? How did Serong look compared to Tom Green?
Quote from: Wanderer on June 30, 2020, 04:32:40 PM
I know those who traded out Whitfield might have been able to generate some cash from it. If you decide to get him back in, you would have used a trade to get him out, then another to get him back in. If he gets injured again, you will use another trade to get him out again and for what? Some extra cash?
Trading Whitfield to Simpkin last week was a good move. For the purpose of this example, let's assume you start with $0 in the bank.
Whitfield was $537k. Scored 85. Now he is 483k.
Simpkin was $483k. Scored 119. Now he is 520k.
You can see that trade banked $54k, Simpkin is now 37k more expensive than Whitfield and an extra 34 points were gained on field.
Now let's look at next week...
If Whitfield scores 100, he will drop to ~450k.
If Simpkin scores 100, he will rise to ~550k.
The trade banked 54k, Simpkin is now 100k more expensive than Whitfield and an extra 34 points were gained in Round 4.
If Noble scores 60 this week, he will rise to ~285k.
If Curtis Taylor scores 60 this week, he will rise to ~250k.
If you trade Noble to a 123k rookie, you will have 162k. If you use this 162k to trade Taylor, you will have 412k (466k with the 54k gained from the initial Whitfield trade). This would be enough to bring in Whitfield at ~450k and 3 trades have been used.
If you kept Whitfield and made the same Noble/Taylor trades, you will have 412k. You will then need to find an extra 138k from a 3rd trade if you wanted Simpkin. If you want a cheaper alternative to Simpkin, the cheapest Top 6/8 contenders in any position (outside of Whitfield) are probably Laird at ~490k, Bailey Smith at ~500k & Dusty at ~515k which still require a 3rd trade to generate the cash required.
Basically, you still spend the same amount of trades either way and gain points if you got Simpkin.
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on June 30, 2020, 06:39:53 PM
Pickett to Serong locked in
just don't know if i should trade Howe to Maynard or Stephen Hill
if i go Hill i can upgrade Noble next week and nearly have enough cash for upgrading Starc or whoever to
Will Howes injury effect Maynards role? Has he been plying half back or in the middle?
Quote from: JBs-Hawks on July 01, 2020, 12:43:18 AM
Did anyone watch the Freo game? How did Serong look compared to Tom Green?
I didn't watch the Freo game but I watched the GWS game and Green looked like he did in the pre-season. My only issue is I don't trust the Giants. They have had young guys kill it in the past and Cameron will still drop them. At least with Serong he is cheaper and might get a decent run at it. I think I prefer the risky pick of Hill with the injury issues over Serong though.
Quote from: MontyJnr on July 01, 2020, 01:44:57 PM
Trading Whitfield to Simpkin last week was a good move. For the purpose of this example, let's assume you start with $0 in the bank.
Whitfield was $537k. Scored 85. Now he is 483k.
Simpkin was $483k. Scored 119. Now he is 520k.
You can see that trade banked $54k, Simpkin is now 37k more expensive than Whitfield and an extra 34 points were gained on field.
Now let's look at next week...
If Whitfield scores 100, he will drop to ~450k.
If Simpkin scores 100, he will rise to ~550k.
The trade banked 54k, Simpkin is now 100k more expensive than Whitfield and an extra 34 points were gained in Round 4.
If Noble scores 60 this week, he will rise to ~285k.
If Curtis Taylor scores 60 this week, he will rise to ~250k.
If you trade Noble to a 123k rookie, you will have 162k. If you use this 162k to trade Taylor, you will have 412k (466k with the 54k gained from the initial Whitfield trade). This would be enough to bring in Whitfield at ~450k and 3 trades have been used.
If you kept Whitfield and made the same Noble/Taylor trades, you will have 412k. You will then need to find an extra 138k from a 3rd trade if you wanted Simpkin. If you want a cheaper alternative to Simpkin, the cheapest Top 6/8 contenders in any position (outside of Whitfield) are probably Laird at ~490k, Bailey Smith at ~500k & Dusty at ~515k which still require a 3rd trade to generate the cash required.
Basically, you still spend the same amount of trades either way and gain points if you got Simpkin.
I had 24 trades heading into last round. If I made the two trades from that round it would leave me with 22 heading into round 5 of a 17 round season. That's 13 weeks and 22 trades. I can just about make trades every week and not have to worry. The key is to get cash gen in your team without compromising points and structure. Whitfield to Simpkin did exactly that. It's no worse than people trading Pickett to Serong or Hill this week. In fact you made more cash on that downgrade of Whitfield to Simpkin and still have a keeper for the time being.
I currently have Grundy, Nic Nat and Pittonet as my three rucks. I was thinking that I should trade Nic Nat this week because I have Pitto sitting on my bench and it feels like it's a lot of points to be sitting there right now. The cash from Nic Nat could have been utilised to send a rookie to the bench and trade in a premium.
Now that the games have been flipped about, it turns out Pitto plays on Thursday and I'm thinking of using my trades for an effective loophole. I put the E on Pittonet, if he scores trash I keep Nic Nat and trade a rookie. If he scores 90 or higher I dump Nic Nat to a premium and bank the points.
Here is a list of my other rookies and their B/E's
Starcevich - 11 keep
Noble - 17 keep
Rivers - -15 keep
Young - -21 keep
Williamson - -26 keep
Rowell - 21 Brownlow
Pickett - 29 hold
Brown - 2 keep
McInereny - -1 keep
Bennell - -11 keep
Taylor - 39 unsure
Brander - 12 unsure
Budarick - 1 keep
King - 33 keep
Cameron - -16 keep
They all have lowish BE's and cash still to make. Brander had a bit of a stinker last week so the cash gen could slow. Taylor is plodding with back to back poor scores but still has cash to make. King and Pickett haven't made enough cash to be worth trading. I'm thinking it has to be one of Taylor or Brander out in that situation. If I am downgrading Hill makes the most sense. I can also upgrade to someone like a Ceglar if I trade Howe to Ridley.
If I trade out Nic Nat I could get a combo of Ridley and Walters or Lloyd/Daniel and Smith. The other option is I do Howe to Hill and Nic Nat to a premium to try and do the upgrade the following week to Whitfield who will have that awful 8 out of his rotating average. If I trade Howe to Ridley this week that leaves me with the option of also making a Brander to any player 580k and under if the prices change enough. That could see me grab any premium forward/defender that isn't Lloyd/Walters and under.
In the end I'll be moving Nic Nat over the next fortnight, it's just if I pull the trigger this week. The quick summary of options is
Howe and Taylor to Ridley and Hill
Howe and Taylor to Ridley and Ceglar
Howe and Taylor to Daniel/Lloyd and Hill
Howe and Nic Nat to Daniel/Lloyd and Smith
Howe and Nic Nat to Ridley and Walters
Howe and Nic Nat to Hill and Walters/Smith
Any thoughts?
Have gone from
Howe/Viney to Lloyd/Boak
Now I'm
Howe/Fyfe to Ridley/Serong.
631k in the bank. Absolute madness I know but next week Viney is Boak/Gaff and Taylor/King becomes Whitfield.
Ride the Serong train til Fyfe has a price drop, then switch back if it's a good move.
At this stage I'm looking at Howe to Williamson and Taylor to Hill, which should allow me to double upgrade next week - a bottomed out Whitfield and Premo mid
I’m thinking a double down that’s going to leave me with 700k
:/
I just hope my rookies hold their end of the bargain for this round so I can go bang next week
Decided on Howe to Ridley, 2nd trade is tougher, Fyfe to Serong is better long term, but for cash league Fyfe to Simpkin seems the better move to keep the scores rolling in. If Serong can outdo his 70 odd this past week it's prob worth going Serong, I wouldn't lose too many points...
Stay away from Ridley guys...
I want him to myself
So seems like everyone’s holding Fyfe?
For me, keeping it simple:
Howe > Lloyd
Stewart > Daniel
Ridley is tempting, but going to play it safe while my overall rank is still healthy..
Avoided injuries no Fyfe,Howe,
Important to get trades right this week as upgrades looming
Viney/Pickett to Hill/Bennell 412K in cash
Viney/Pickett to Hill/Serong 367K cash
not sure I want to cash in pickett, is good enough to avg 80+ as a mature age player- need him playing though! problem is all other rooks are generating cash and not ready to cull.
Following week gives me enough to double upgrade for two of Hurn/Whitfield/Ceglar -probably Hurn/Ceglar with Whitfield the week after. atm have 4/6/2/4 keepers
Got plenty of non playing rooks hurting me, Rankine, Sturt, BZT be nice if they could start getting games this week.
Quote from: mjmmjm34 on June 30, 2020, 11:28:03 AM
Do we think it's too late to bring in Simpkin or are we thinking he's a FWD keeper?
It’s hard to say because he’s soaking up all of Cunningtons midfield time lately.
Quote from: IntegralX on July 02, 2020, 12:28:47 PM
Quote from: mjmmjm34 on June 30, 2020, 11:28:03 AM
Do we think it's too late to bring in Simpkin or are we thinking he's a FWD keeper?
It’s hard to say because he’s soaking up all of Cunningtons midfield time lately.
Played just as much mid in the first two rounds when Cunnington was there so I don't expect Cunners to impact him too much
Obviously he won't keep up the 120+ avg, but should still remain a Top fwd
Quote from: jfitty on July 02, 2020, 10:44:23 AM
For me, keeping it simple:
Howe > Lloyd
Stewart > Daniel
Ridley is tempting, but going to play it safe while my overall rank is still healthy..
My first thought was Howe to Lloyd too, but I'm just not impressed by Lloyd's numbers at his price
Besides the 1 good score of 140+, his other scores have been meh. Yes he clicked over 100 in the past two games, but barely, and that's not worth 590k imo
Decided on Lloyd to Daniel and Fyfe to Gaff. Hoping to get 2 playing forward rookies to save reversal.
Just realised I may be forced to trade Fyfe, and with the AFL hubs likely condensing the schedule it's making me reconsider holding Fyfe anyway.
Now leaning to Howe > Ridley/Lloyd/Daniel and Fyfe > Gaff.
At present, pending teams, Howe to Ridley & M.Picket to S.Hill via Rivers to mid.
looks like Hibberd is in for the bombers.
Quote from: frenzy on July 02, 2020, 05:23:43 PM
looks like Hibberd is in for the bombers.
And probably straight back out next week when Zerrett returns
Wouldn't be going early on him
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on July 02, 2020, 05:34:06 PM
Quote from: frenzy on July 02, 2020, 05:23:43 PM
looks like Hibberd is in for the bombers.
And probably straight back out next week when Zerrett returns
Wouldn't be going early on him
If he plays well, then he must be some chance of pushing out Zaharakis who is in horrible form.
You're right though, you wouldn't go early on him.
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on July 02, 2020, 05:34:06 PM
Quote from: frenzy on July 02, 2020, 05:23:43 PM
looks like Hibberd is in for the bombers.
And probably straight back out next week when Zerrett returns
Wouldn't be going early on him
Lol, he was all the rage in the pre-season. ;D
A bit more to think about now, With Noble and Brander out I have 3 non playing def rookies and 3 non playing fwd rookies.
Plan was Viney>Hill and [pickett>serong/bennell] with a preference for bennell.
so Bennell not playing. Now it is Hill and someone to cover Def/Fwds If Sturt plays I have 6 on the field forward,
Could do Noble to Hill gives me 6 Def and no emergency
Viney to ??
Is it too late to consider Williamson and I move Rivers to mids.
Trade Brander or Noble for Hill?
Quote from: benharris222 on July 02, 2020, 08:02:06 PM
Trade Brander or Noble for Hill?
Brander is injured so I say he goes
Quote from: shaker on July 02, 2020, 08:05:00 PM
Quote from: benharris222 on July 02, 2020, 08:02:06 PM
Trade Brander or Noble for Hill?
Brander is injured so I say he goes
How long for though? If it’s only minor and a week or two, he may be back sooner than Noble
BE's aren't too dissimilar and the fact that Noble was dropped would have me trade him. Plus you pocket more cash making the trade.
I'm thinking Noble to Hill and one of Daniel or Ridley for Howe. I'm undecided on that one.
Have Naismith and Noble which I'm looking to trade $589k to bring in 2 players. Thinking 4 options
1.
Noble > Ridley
Naismith > Mahony
2
Naismith > Mahony
Noble > Parfitt
3
Naismith > Serong
Noble > Ridley
4. (double downgrade)
Naismith > Serong
Noble > Hill
Any thoughts?
Ridley and Serong or Ridley and Hill
Quote from: Mat0369 on July 02, 2020, 08:19:03 PM
Ridley and Serong or Ridley and Hill
Ridely and Hill the best option
Quote from: Mat0369 on July 02, 2020, 08:19:03 PM
Ridley and Serong or Ridley and Hill
I'm short for Ridley and Hill by like 12k unfortunately.
I meant Serong and Hill (double downgrade) as the other one. Brain fart. You could double downgrade and take one more look at Ridley. If he looks legit jump on board next week
Noble to Hill and Howe to Lloyd or Noble to Ridley and Howe to Maynard
Other option Howe to Hill Pickett or rookie to T Mitchell/Kelly/Gaff
Howe -> Hill
Taylor -> Simpkin
- Howe to Ridley
- Noble to Hill
Howe to Maynard
Robertson to Serong
Locked in. Aarts will be a must next week
Went Noble to Hill and Howe to Lloyd
I stuck with Howe/Stewart > Lloyd/Daniel
Have to play McHenry for Fyfe, but gives me a reason to watch that game I guess ::)
Have 3 zeros in defence: Howe, Noble, Brander. Plus Fyfe, but might hold him.
Thinking:
Howe and Noble
To
Sicily and Ridley
Quote from: IntegralX on July 03, 2020, 08:08:40 PM
Howe to Maynard
Robertson to Serong
Locked in. Aarts will be a must next week
Hope so, a good rookie forward will help immensely!
Went Noble + Pickett to Hill + Serong.
Gaff & hill
Or
Simpkin & Ridley
Gone Howe -> Maynard.
Hoping he can keep going with his scoring with Howe out.
Next one - Stewart -> ????????????. Thinking Daniel or Simpkin.
Really stuck this week, I’m looking at these 2 trades.
Pickett & Taylor for Hill & Sarong
or
Pickett & Bennell for Hill & Sarong
I was originally planning on Pickett to Hill via Budarick but wouldn’t mind Serong, liked the look of him last week.