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Collingwood pair on drug test

Started by Ricochet, March 30, 2015, 01:58:55 PM

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T Dog

People who recut and sell recreational drugs must take more care in who they distribute their product to  8)

Barra13

Quote from: Mailman the 2nd on March 31, 2015, 03:04:31 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on March 31, 2015, 01:56:48 PM
Quote from: Samsturmfels on March 31, 2015, 01:53:12 PM
heres the facts we currently have
1) they were tested 3 days after they had returned from NZ
2) they were room mates in NZ
3) they wern't aware that they had taken the drug (according to neil balme)

so in my opinion theres a high chance that it was in a meal they had when they were at NZ
The NZ Beef industry has squashed that theory already.

Can you imagine them ever admitting that there could be steroids in their meat?

Can you imagine the players ever admitting that they took steroids?

Mailman the 2nd

Quote from: Barra13 on March 31, 2015, 08:15:03 PM
Quote from: Mailman the 2nd on March 31, 2015, 03:04:31 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on March 31, 2015, 01:56:48 PM
Quote from: Samsturmfels on March 31, 2015, 01:53:12 PM
heres the facts we currently have
1) they were tested 3 days after they had returned from NZ
2) they were room mates in NZ
3) they wern't aware that they had taken the drug (according to neil balme)

so in my opinion theres a high chance that it was in a meal they had when they were at NZ
The NZ Beef industry has squashed that theory already.

Can you imagine them ever admitting that there could be steroids in their meat?

Can you imagine the players ever admitting that they took steroids?

2 players is not the same as a national meat industry that feeds 4.471 million people. Which one do you think will get more negative press?

Mr.Craig

Innocent or guilty, I've always thought there was something a little off about Josh Thomas.

T Dog

Quote from: Mr.Craig on March 31, 2015, 08:42:20 PM
Innocent or guilty, I've always thought there was something a little off about Josh Thomas.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ua-pNYOKnBM

What?

JBs-Hawks

Quote from: Mailman the 2nd on March 31, 2015, 08:33:06 PM
Quote from: Barra13 on March 31, 2015, 08:15:03 PM
Quote from: Mailman the 2nd on March 31, 2015, 03:04:31 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on March 31, 2015, 01:56:48 PM
Quote from: Samsturmfels on March 31, 2015, 01:53:12 PM
heres the facts we currently have
1) they were tested 3 days after they had returned from NZ
2) they were room mates in NZ
3) they wern't aware that they had taken the drug (according to neil balme)

so in my opinion theres a high chance that it was in a meal they had when they were at NZ
The NZ Beef industry has squashed that theory already.

Can you imagine them ever admitting that there could be steroids in their meat?

Can you imagine the players ever admitting that they took steroids?

2 players is not the same as a national meat industry that feeds 4.471 million people. Which one do you think will get more negative press?

The 2 playes got caught with clen in there system.

The meat industry hasnt.

Mailman the 2nd

Quote from: JBs-Hawks on March 31, 2015, 08:50:43 PM
Quote from: Mailman the 2nd on March 31, 2015, 08:33:06 PM
Quote from: Barra13 on March 31, 2015, 08:15:03 PM
Quote from: Mailman the 2nd on March 31, 2015, 03:04:31 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on March 31, 2015, 01:56:48 PM
Quote from: Samsturmfels on March 31, 2015, 01:53:12 PM
heres the facts we currently have
1) they were tested 3 days after they had returned from NZ
2) they were room mates in NZ
3) they wern't aware that they had taken the drug (according to neil balme)

so in my opinion theres a high chance that it was in a meal they had when they were at NZ
The NZ Beef industry has squashed that theory already.

Can you imagine them ever admitting that there could be steroids in their meat?

Can you imagine the players ever admitting that they took steroids?

2 players is not the same as a national meat industry that feeds 4.471 million people. Which one do you think will get more negative press?

The 2 playes got caught with clen in there system.

The meat industry hasnt.

Yeah they got caught. Clenbuterol is still available as a animal health product in New Zealand though and can be used for cattle, so really its just a PR statement than the truth

Grazz

NZ use it for horses only i think mate.

Mailman the 2nd

Quote from: Grazz on March 31, 2015, 09:26:44 PM
NZ use it for horses only i think mate.

To my knowledge, Planipart solution (used on sheep and cattle which contains clenb.) is readily available in New Zealand and Australia

http://www.drugs.com/international/planipart.html

Grazz

Quote from: Mailman the 2nd on March 31, 2015, 09:33:32 PM
Quote from: Grazz on March 31, 2015, 09:26:44 PM
NZ use it for horses only i think mate.

To my knowledge, Planipart solution (used on sheep and cattle which contains clenb.) is readily available in New Zealand and Australia

http://www.drugs.com/international/planipart.html

While clenbuterol is used in livestock in some countries, New Zealand beef industry association chairman Bill Falconer was adamant that was not the case in his country.

"Clenbuterol is not present in the Australian food chain. It is not present in the New Zealand food chain, it has occurred in China and Mexico but it is not an issue here," Ings told 3AW. ;D

"It's a veterinary drug in Australia, it's a veterinary drug in New Zealand; it's only approved for use in racehorses.

Quotes from this article  http://www.afl.com.au/news/2015-03-31/kiwis-beef-over-clenbuterol

Mailman the 2nd

Quote from: Grazz on March 31, 2015, 09:42:37 PM
Quote from: Mailman the 2nd on March 31, 2015, 09:33:32 PM
Quote from: Grazz on March 31, 2015, 09:26:44 PM
NZ use it for horses only i think mate.

To my knowledge, Planipart solution (used on sheep and cattle which contains clenb.) is readily available in New Zealand and Australia

http://www.drugs.com/international/planipart.html

While clenbuterol is used in livestock in some countries, New Zealand beef industry association chairman Bill Falconer was adamant that was not the case in his country.

"Clenbuterol is not present in the Australian food chain. It is not present in the New Zealand food chain, it has occurred in China and Mexico but it is not an issue here," Ings told 3AW. ;D

"It's a veterinary drug in Australia, it's a veterinary drug in New Zealand; it's only approved for use in racehorses.

Quotes from this article  http://www.afl.com.au/news/2015-03-31/kiwis-beef-over-clenbuterol

Yeah, and he lied.

http://www.infopest.com.au/extra/asp/infopest/nra/labels.asp?prodcode=35963&LabelType=L
http://www.petceutics.com.au/planipart-inj.html
http://www.boehringer-ingelheim.com.au/our_business/animal_health/products_new_zealand.html
http://www.sciquest.org.nz/node/35407

All that is required is a basic veterinary prescription in some cases (probably not even that). These are all within the last 10 years as well.

What he was referring to was in China where people were hospitalized due to clenbuterol residue poisoning in pigs

Grazz

Im comfortable it isn't in beef cattle going to market in NZ tbh.

Mailman the 2nd

Quite possibly, but he glosses over the fact that it is legal and used on cattle in New Zealand and uses irrelevant cases in China to divert attention.

frenzy

there ya go ASADA, see if you can botch this one as well.

shaker

Quote from: Mailman the 2nd on March 31, 2015, 10:07:34 PM
Quite possibly, but he glosses over the fact that it is legal and used on cattle in New Zealand and uses irrelevant cases in China to divert attention.

It is probably used by vets for individual animals but not administered to the whole of the cattle industry like in China and Mexico