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Title: Swans Preseason 2015 thread
Post by: stew42 on September 27, 2014, 08:31:51 PM
So now I guess we can bring up one of these.

What should we target in the trade period? Who should we draft? Who should we delist/will retire? What will our best 22 be like next year?
Title: Re: Swans Preseason 2015 thread
Post by: stew42 on September 27, 2014, 09:00:55 PM
Stew42's Best 22 next year (trades pending, subject to change):

B: N Smith, T Richards, D Rampe
HB: R Shaw, H Grundy, A Johnson
M: N Malceski, D Hannebury, K Jack
HF: Jetta, Franklin, Cunningham
F: McGlynn, Tippett, Reid
Foll: Pyke, Kennedy, Parker
Int: Rohan, Mitchell, Lloyd, Bird

I actually hope Goodes retires, time for Membrey to step up imo, who can take Cunners' or Lloyd's spot. Biggs would also be knocking on the door...
Title: Re: Swans Preseason 2015 thread
Post by: roo boys! on September 27, 2014, 09:09:49 PM
Looks like you reckon Shaw will go around again stew?
Title: Re: Swans Preseason 2015 thread
Post by: stew42 on September 27, 2014, 09:24:48 PM
Not too sure, missed that one! If he does go, move Mal to halfback and bring in another mid
Title: Re: Swans Preseason 2015 thread
Post by: Mailman the 2nd on September 27, 2014, 09:38:13 PM
No way Johnson will be up by round 1
Title: Re: Swans Preseason 2015 thread
Post by: Capper on September 27, 2014, 10:46:21 PM
Doubt AJ will play next year at all. Shaw will play next year but after that who knows. Eski is similar.

We cant keep playing Eski and Shaw off the HB line though as the pressure we got today showed.

I would also like to see Smith as one of the captains with Macca. Nothing against KJack but i think Smith will be a future captain
Title: Re: Swans Preseason 2015 thread
Post by: Toga on September 27, 2014, 10:56:40 PM
You guys have got a steal locked in with Pick 17 in Heeney by the looks of it, I gather it will take a while before he'll break into the team though?
Title: Re: Swans Preseason 2015 thread
Post by: Nige on September 27, 2014, 10:58:43 PM
Quote from: Toga on September 27, 2014, 10:56:40 PM
You guys have got a steal locked in with Pick 17 in Heeney by the looks of it, I gather it will take a while before he'll break into the team though?
He's a serious talent. Honestly wouldn't be surprised to see him crack the seniors at some stage in 2015.
Title: Re: Swans Preseason 2015 thread
Post by: Capper on September 27, 2014, 11:15:32 PM
Quote from: Nige on September 27, 2014, 10:58:43 PM
Quote from: Toga on September 27, 2014, 10:56:40 PM
You guys have got a steal locked in with Pick 17 in Heeney by the looks of it, I gather it will take a while before he'll break into the team though?
He's a serious talent. Honestly wouldn't be surprised to see him crack the seniors at some stage in 2015.
he is a gun and has been tearing it up ion the 2s and championships.

Pretty sure our first 3 picks are already in place for this year with Heaney, abe?? and Dunkley
Title: Re: Swans Preseason 2015 thread
Post by: Toga on September 27, 2014, 11:17:39 PM
Pretty sure Dunkley is next year tabsy as he's also been touted as a first rounder.

Can you see Heeney breaking in for some games next year or think he'll be a few more years off given the talent of your list?
Title: Re: Swans Preseason 2015 thread
Post by: Capper on September 27, 2014, 11:21:07 PM
I couldnt find the link about our first 3 picks but i remember Dunkley will go with 3rd round pick as Heaney and I think Abe (not sure) will go with our first 2 picks via academy
Title: Re: Swans Preseason 2015 thread
Post by: Toga on September 27, 2014, 11:25:06 PM
Check this (http://www.theage.com.au/afl/afl-news/andrew-dunkleys-teenage-son-josh-hopes-to-join-swans-20140522-zrkyt.html) article out, says Dunkley is eligible to be drafted end of 2015.

Pretty sure he's been tipped to cost the Swans an early pick as well.
Title: Re: Swans Preseason 2015 thread
Post by: Capper on September 27, 2014, 11:42:16 PM
ok so Dunkley is the year after. I was right with Abe but there was a 3rd player that we might take from the academy this year.

We cant stack up on all mids though
Title: Re: Swans Preseason 2015 thread
Post by: stew42 on September 28, 2014, 04:42:23 AM
I like the look of Jack Hiscox, medium fwd, but crumbs very well, plays more like a small
Title: Re: Swans Preseason 2015 thread
Post by: Mailman the 2nd on September 28, 2014, 10:48:27 AM
Quote from: stew42 on September 28, 2014, 04:42:23 AM
I like the look of Jack Hiscox, medium fwd, but crumbs very well, plays more like a small

I've played with him, he's crazy fast (like 800m nationals fast) and a very strong mark as well. He's got regular reserves games interstate with Davis and Henney so we might pick him up later in the draft?
Title: Re: Swans Preseason 2015 thread
Post by: Mailman the 2nd on September 28, 2014, 01:38:01 PM
Think this is a big preseason for Reid, Cunningham, Lloyd, Shaw and Goodes.

If Goodes and Shaw go again, they have to get their bodies and fitness up to scratch. Let down too many times during the season. I'd almost rather neither play on into 2015 though.

Reid's progress is pretty straightforward, just needs to make consistent impacts.

Lloyd and Cunningham have to make the next step.
Title: Re: Swans Preseason 2015 thread
Post by: stew42 on September 28, 2014, 07:15:36 PM
Quote from: Mailman the 2nd on September 28, 2014, 01:38:01 PM
Think this is a big preseason for Reid, Cunningham, Lloyd, Shaw and Goodes.

If Goodes and Shaw go again, they have to get their bodies and fitness up to scratch. Let down too many times during the season. I'd almost rather neither play on into 2015 though.

Reid's progress is pretty straightforward, just needs to make consistent impacts.

Lloyd and Cunningham have to make the next step.
Anakin and Cunners have the added incentive of Titch knocking on the door...

Plus if Shaw leaves, does that open the door for someone like Biggs? Or will we trade someone in?

I'm really worried about Reid. Ok, he'll only be 23 next year, but his development has been painfully slow. Looked third-rate in the GF, and didn't have too many game where he dominated, despite having the luxury of taking the third best defender. I also don't think we need a LRT-like swingman in our team (unless he's brilliant, which Reid currently isn't). I might even be putting him on the trade table and see what people offer.
Title: Re: Swans Preseason 2015 thread
Post by: Toga on September 28, 2014, 07:26:32 PM
Apparently Malceski looking at signing with the Suns...
Title: Re: Swans Preseason 2015 thread
Post by: Nige on September 28, 2014, 07:41:01 PM
Quote from: Toga on September 28, 2014, 07:26:32 PM
Apparently Malceski looking at signing with the Suns...
Heard this too, would love that.
Title: Re: Swans Preseason 2015 thread
Post by: Capper on September 28, 2014, 10:48:18 PM
So it appears that the Saints are after Luke Parker with pick 1 in the draft
Title: Re: Swans Preseason 2015 thread
Post by: kilbluff1985 on September 28, 2014, 10:53:00 PM
Quote from: tabs on September 28, 2014, 10:48:18 PM
So it appears that the Saints are after Luke Parker with pick 1 in the draft

Wow but unlikely Swans will bite surely

Petracca similar to Parker I think
Title: Re: Swans Preseason 2015 thread
Post by: Ziplock on September 28, 2014, 10:58:10 PM
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on September 28, 2014, 10:53:00 PM
Quote from: tabs on September 28, 2014, 10:48:18 PM
So it appears that the Saints are after Luke Parker with pick 1 in the draft

Wow but unlikely Swans will bite surely

Petracca similar to Parker I think
seriously doubt it. Unless Parker wanted out, I don't see why Sydney would trade a young player who's just established himself as a gun for a player who might become one.
Title: Re: Swans Preseason 2015 thread
Post by: Vinny on September 28, 2014, 11:00:27 PM
Quote from: Nige on September 28, 2014, 07:41:01 PM
Quote from: Toga on September 28, 2014, 07:26:32 PM
Apparently Malceski looking at signing with the Suns...
Heard this too, would love that.
That would be awesome, would take GC to next level and screw Sydney.
Title: Re: Swans Preseason 2015 thread
Post by: Mr.Craig on September 28, 2014, 11:00:42 PM
Saints are dreaming.
Title: Re: Swans Preseason 2015 thread
Post by: Ziplock on September 28, 2014, 11:03:30 PM
http://www.smh.com.au/afl/sydney-swans/adam-goodes-advised-to-bow-out-of-the-sydney-swans-sooner-rather-than-later-20140928-10n6n8.html

I don't think there's much risk in him going around again if he feels up to it- worst case scenario if he really can't hold his spot sydney could just be like 'yeah, goodes is injured and out for the season.'
Title: Re: Swans Preseason 2015 thread
Post by: Mailman the 2nd on September 29, 2014, 01:30:05 AM
Quote from: Mr.Craig on September 28, 2014, 11:00:42 PM
Saints are dreaming.

Quote from: Vinny on September 28, 2014, 11:00:27 PM
Quote from: Nige on September 28, 2014, 07:41:01 PM
Quote from: Toga on September 28, 2014, 07:26:32 PM
Apparently Malceski looking at signing with the Suns...
Heard this too, would love that.
That would be awesome, would take GC to next level and screw Sydney.

I'd say the same to you, but Carlton are doing that themselves
Title: Re: Swans Preseason 2015 thread
Post by: stew42 on September 29, 2014, 02:16:56 AM
Quote from: Ziplock on September 28, 2014, 10:58:10 PM
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on September 28, 2014, 10:53:00 PM
Quote from: tabs on September 28, 2014, 10:48:18 PM
So it appears that the Saints are after Luke Parker with pick 1 in the draft

Wow but unlikely Swans will bite surely

Petracca similar to Parker I think
seriously doubt it. Unless Parker wanted out, I don't see why Sydney would trade a young player who's just established himself as a gun for a player who might become one.
And tbh we don't like first round draft picks :P
Title: Re: Swans Preseason 2015 thread
Post by: Capper on September 29, 2014, 05:51:58 PM
Quote from: stew42 on September 29, 2014, 02:16:56 AM
Quote from: Ziplock on September 28, 2014, 10:58:10 PM
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on September 28, 2014, 10:53:00 PM
Quote from: tabs on September 28, 2014, 10:48:18 PM
So it appears that the Saints are after Luke Parker with pick 1 in the draft

Wow but unlikely Swans will bite surely

Petracca similar to Parker I think
seriously doubt it. Unless Parker wanted out, I don't see why Sydney would trade a young player who's just established himself as a gun for a player who might become one.
And tbh we don't like first round draft picks :P
except Jude Bolton
Title: Re: Swans Preseason 2015 thread
Post by: Mailman the 2nd on September 29, 2014, 05:57:00 PM
Carlton more or less completely out of trying to get Mitchell traded so he'll be here next year.

Parker won't be traded, St.Kilda would be more likely to turn pick 1 into more 1st rounders.

Malceski looks like he's gone.

Another backman and ruckman need to be targeted this period. Derickx and Laidler were whatever players, need to get something more.
Title: Re: Swans Preseason 2015 thread
Post by: Toga on September 29, 2014, 07:36:39 PM
Could Giles be an option Mailman?
Title: Re: Swans Preseason 2015 thread
Post by: Mailman the 2nd on September 29, 2014, 07:46:45 PM
Probably, not sure how he's been tracking so far this year though. We'll be in a less favourable trading/drafting position than any other club so if he's wanted elsewhere we'd have to prioritize him.
Title: Re: Swans Preseason 2015 thread
Post by: Toga on September 29, 2014, 08:50:24 PM
Yeah fair enough, you'd think a mid-range pick would be enough to get him off the Giants so I could see you guys going after him with a third or fourth rounder. Obviously need someone to start taking over from Pykey who is getting on a bit, and Giles showed in 2013 that he was a pretty handy ruckman who was more than capable up forward, so could see him making a good pairing with Kurt.

Although he's obviously after more opportunity, so if someone like the Dogs/Blues/Bombers were to chase him there's a chance he would prefer to go to Victoria if it means he has a more defined position in the firsts.
Title: Re: Swans Preseason 2015 thread
Post by: Capper on September 30, 2014, 12:05:40 PM
Joel Patfull wants to come to Sydney.

http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/trade-whispers-who-is-your-club-chasing-in-the-afl-free-agency-draft-period/story-fnp04d70-1227074447591
Title: Re: Swans Preseason 2015 thread
Post by: Ringo on September 30, 2014, 12:09:51 PM
Think if he goes to Sydney Tabs it will be GWS but who knows
Title: Re: Swans Preseason 2015 thread
Post by: Capper on September 30, 2014, 12:11:45 PM
Quote from: Ringo on September 30, 2014, 12:09:51 PM
Think if he goes to Sydney Tabs it will be GWS but who knows
I know he is a back but is he KPP or a rebounder??

Dont watch many Lions games
Title: Re: Swans Preseason 2015 thread
Post by: Ringo on September 30, 2014, 04:03:45 PM
Pure KPP Tabs - plays way above his height and usually takes the 3rd tall forward. He also plys a lock down role when required.
Title: Re: Swans Preseason 2015 thread
Post by: Capper on September 30, 2014, 04:15:16 PM
That would help as Rampe is currently taking the 3rd tall
Title: Re: Swans Preseason 2015 thread
Post by: Toga on September 30, 2014, 04:57:51 PM
Would be a great addition to the Swans back six.
Title: Re: Swans Preseason 2015 thread
Post by: Capper on September 30, 2014, 05:26:25 PM
Would only need him for a short time whilst AJ, X and Aliir are still coming through
Title: Re: Swans Preseason 2015 thread
Post by: Toga on September 30, 2014, 05:27:04 PM
Patfull is a very solid player, think you might be underestimating him haha ;)
Title: Re: Swans Preseason 2015 thread
Post by: Capper on October 01, 2014, 12:37:37 AM
I think X gets more game time next year if we dont get Patful. Doubt we will but worth a try
Title: Re: Swans Preseason 2015 thread
Post by: Capper on October 01, 2014, 05:39:57 PM
Quote from: Ringo on September 30, 2014, 12:09:51 PM
Think if he goes to Sydney Tabs it will be GWS but who knows

It is Sydney and not GWS for Patful

http://www.afl.com.au/news/2014-09-30/trade-winds-tuesday
QuotePatfull eyes move south
Brisbane Lions defender Joel Patfull is reportedly keen to move to a Sydney club a year before he comes out of contract.

The Herald Sun reported on Tuesday that Patfull, who is contracted until the end of next season, was seeking a trade to this year's runner-up.

Lions talent acquisition and retention manager Peter Schwab said the club remained hopeful the valuable defender would play out his career in Brisbane before relocating to the harbour city.     

"I think Joel has ideas of moving to Sydney after his playing career, and that's known by us," Schwab told SEN.

"But right at the moment
Title: Re: Swans Preseason 2015 thread
Post by: SydneyRox on October 01, 2014, 06:07:10 PM
Yeah he def wanted the Swans. Not sure we can get anything done though. He would be a 1st round pick most likely.

So unless one of our fringe like Membrey want to go to Brisbane dont think we have a lot to deal
Title: Re: Swans Preseason 2015 thread
Post by: Capper on October 01, 2014, 06:17:47 PM
Tomy Walsh will be returning to Ireland

http://www.sydneyswans.com.au/news/2014-10-01/walsh-heads-home
Title: Re: Swans Preseason 2015 thread
Post by: Capper on October 01, 2014, 06:19:32 PM
http://www.sydneyswans.com.au/news/2014-10-01/swans-make-three-list-changes

QuoteThe Sydney Swans can advise the following changes to the senior list for the 2015 season.

Senior listed players Jordan Lockyer and Matthew Dick have been delisted, while Tommy Walsh has advised the Club that he will return home to Ireland.

Walsh was recruited to the Club via a trade with St Kilda at the end of the 2011 season.

He made his AFL debut in round 8, 2012 and played a further two matches that year.

He returned to the team again in 2013 but his season ended when he was struck down with a serious hamstring injury.

Sydney Swans General Manager - Football, Dean Moore said the Club wished to thank all of the players for their contribution.

These changes follow the retirements of Ryan O'Keefe and Lewis Roberts-Thomson.

Title: Re: Swans Preseason 2015 thread
Post by: elephants on October 01, 2014, 06:20:29 PM
Lockyer delisted! :D

Step 1) Let the Swans delist Lockyer
Step 2) Pick him up for freeeee!
Title: Re: Swans Preseason 2015 thread
Post by: Capper on October 01, 2014, 06:20:44 PM
I thought Dick may be delisted after missing out on the NEAFL GF side.

Le will be happy that Lockyer will be returning to Perth
Title: Re: Swans Preseason 2015 thread
Post by: Capper on October 01, 2014, 06:22:29 PM
Quote from: elephants on October 01, 2014, 06:20:29 PM
Lockyer delisted! :D

Step 1) Let the Swans delist Lockyer
Step 2) Pick him up for freeeee!
hmmm dont know if the Eagles take him though
Title: Re: Swans Preseason 2015 thread
Post by: elephants on October 01, 2014, 06:23:18 PM
Quote from: tabs on October 01, 2014, 06:22:29 PM
Quote from: elephants on October 01, 2014, 06:20:29 PM
Lockyer delisted! :D

Step 1) Let the Swans delist Lockyer
Step 2) Pick him up for freeeee!
hmmm dont know if the Eagles take him though

It's unlikely, but if it happened I'd be absolutely chuffed.
Title: Re: Swans Preseason 2015 thread
Post by: Capper on October 01, 2014, 06:24:38 PM
Quote from: elephants on October 01, 2014, 06:23:18 PM
Quote from: tabs on October 01, 2014, 06:22:29 PM
Quote from: elephants on October 01, 2014, 06:20:29 PM
Lockyer delisted! :D

Step 1) Let the Swans delist Lockyer
Step 2) Pick him up for freeeee!
hmmm dont know if the Eagles take him though

It's unlikely, but if it happened I'd be absolutely chuffed.
good luck to the kid, i hope he does get picked up
Title: Re: Swans Preseason 2015 thread
Post by: Nige on October 01, 2014, 06:25:01 PM
Poor Lockyer.  :(

Spends 4 seasons at the Swans, gets his number stolen by Spuddy and then gets delisted without playing a game. Rough.
Title: Re: Swans Preseason 2015 thread
Post by: elephants on October 01, 2014, 06:26:08 PM
Quote from: Nige on October 01, 2014, 06:25:01 PM
Poor Lockyer.  :(

Spends 4 seasons at the Swans, gets his number stolen by Spuddy and then gets delisted without playing a game. Rough.

On the plus side, he got to live on the NSW coast and get paid by an AFL club to play in the NEAFL :P #woulddoit/10
Title: Re: Swans Preseason 2015 thread
Post by: Nige on October 01, 2014, 06:27:20 PM
Quote from: elephants on October 01, 2014, 06:26:08 PM
Quote from: Nige on October 01, 2014, 06:25:01 PM
Poor Lockyer.  :(

Spends 4 seasons at the Swans, gets his number stolen by Spuddy and then gets delisted without playing a game. Rough.

On the plus side, he got to live on the NSW coast and get paid by an AFL club to play in the NEAFL :P #woulddoit/10
Haha, true that.
Title: Re: Swans Preseason 2015 thread
Post by: Capper on October 01, 2014, 06:35:16 PM
Quote from: Nige on October 01, 2014, 06:25:01 PM
Poor Lockyer.  :(

Spends 4 seasons at the Swans, gets his number stolen by Spuddy and then gets delisted without playing a game. Rough.
3 seasons, pick up in the 2011 draft
Title: Re: Swans Preseason 2015 thread
Post by: Nige on October 01, 2014, 06:42:23 PM
Quote from: tabs on October 01, 2014, 06:35:16 PM
Quote from: Nige on October 01, 2014, 06:25:01 PM
Poor Lockyer.  :(

Spends 4 seasons at the Swans, gets his number stolen by Spuddy and then gets delisted without playing a game. Rough.
3 seasons, pick up in the 2011 draft
Whoops, can't math.  :P
Title: Re: Swans Preseason 2015 thread
Post by: Capper on October 01, 2014, 06:43:13 PM
Quote from: elephants on October 01, 2014, 06:26:08 PM
Quote from: Nige on October 01, 2014, 06:25:01 PM
Poor Lockyer.  :(

Spends 4 seasons at the Swans, gets his number stolen by Spuddy and then gets delisted without playing a game. Rough.

On the plus side, he got to live on the NSW coast and get paid by an AFL club to play in the NEAFL :P #woulddoit/10
+10% pay as well :P
Title: Re: Swans Preseason 2015 thread
Post by: elephants on October 01, 2014, 06:44:34 PM
Quote from: tabs on October 01, 2014, 06:43:13 PM
Quote from: elephants on October 01, 2014, 06:26:08 PM
Quote from: Nige on October 01, 2014, 06:25:01 PM
Poor Lockyer.  :(

Spends 4 seasons at the Swans, gets his number stolen by Spuddy and then gets delisted without playing a game. Rough.

On the plus side, he got to live on the NSW coast and get paid by an AFL club to play in the NEAFL :P #woulddoit/10
+10% pay as well :P

Hahaa geez of course!
Title: Re: Swans Preseason 2015 thread
Post by: Capper on October 01, 2014, 07:59:50 PM
Takes a pay cut to join the eagles
Title: Re: Swans Preseason 2015 thread
Post by: SydneyRox on October 01, 2014, 11:54:57 PM
http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/adam-goodes-informs-sydney-swans-he-wants-to-play-in-2015-afl-season/story-fni5fan7-1227076945368

Goodes going to play on next year. Think this almost certainly means Eski is gone
Title: Re: Swans Preseason 2015 thread
Post by: SydneyRox on October 02, 2014, 11:25:24 AM
http://www.sydneyswans.com.au/news/2014-10-02/harley-appointed-gm-football

Tom Harley appointed as the new GM Football. Great get IMO. Another strong and respected leadership voice around the club.
Title: Re: Swans Preseason 2015 thread
Post by: Ricochet on October 02, 2014, 11:41:33 AM
http://www.news.com.au/sport/afl/victorian-forward-tim-membrey-requests-trade/story-fndv8ujy-1227077570836?sv=20195c3e7e6ccb07622f4402250560aa#.VCypaQguBlI.twitter

Tim Membrey has also requested to be traded for more senior opportunities
Title: Re: Swans Preseason 2015 thread
Post by: SydneyRox on October 02, 2014, 11:51:00 AM
Bit of a shame, but you cant blame him. Would think we might get a 2nd round for him?
Title: Re: Swans Preseason 2015 thread
Post by: Mailman the 2nd on October 02, 2014, 11:55:01 AM
Quote from: SydneyRox on October 02, 2014, 11:51:00 AM
Bit of a shame, but you cant blame him. Would think we might get a 2nd round for him?

Depends on the club, if there aren't many interested 3rd round might be all
Title: Re: Swans Preseason 2015 thread
Post by: Ricochet on October 02, 2014, 11:59:17 AM
Yeh I think a 2nd round might be a bit high tbh. On talent he's probably worth it based on what we hear but don't think clubs will pay that
Title: Re: Swans Preseason 2015 thread
Post by: Vinny on October 02, 2014, 12:01:46 PM
3rd round IMO, he has only played one AFL game.
Title: Re: Swans Preseason 2015 thread
Post by: SydneyRox on October 02, 2014, 12:14:10 PM
Quote from: Vinny on October 02, 2014, 12:01:46 PM
3rd round IMO, he has only played one AFL game.

it will most likely land there. you are right, but some hype and a few clubs chasing might boost it up. He is afl ready, and will most likely make an impact if he plays, which you cant say for most 3rd round picks.
Title: Re: Swans Preseason 2015 thread
Post by: Mailman the 2nd on October 02, 2014, 12:21:22 PM
He is, but we don't really have any bargaining chips. You also have to take into account he was pick 40-something in the draft so overall we don't have a huge case to argue for better.

It's a shame, because he looks like he could be getting 30-40 goal seasons easy IMO
Title: Re: Swans Preseason 2015 thread
Post by: Mailman the 2nd on October 02, 2014, 12:46:16 PM
lol I at least we know we're Mitch Morton is up now :P  http://mitchmortonproperty.com.au/
Title: Re: Swans Preseason 2015 thread
Post by: Mr.Craig on October 02, 2014, 04:51:22 PM
Quote from: SydneyRox on October 02, 2014, 11:25:24 AM
http://www.sydneyswans.com.au/news/2014-10-02/harley-appointed-gm-football

Tom Harley appointed as the new GM Football. Great get IMO. Another strong and respected leadership voice around the club.

Think he saw it as his best chance to get revenge on Hawthorn.
Title: Re: Swans Preseason 2015 thread
Post by: Toga on October 02, 2014, 05:27:08 PM
Yeah I think you'll be lucky to get more than a 3rd round pick for him, although I'm sure there will be a few interested clubs.
Title: Re: Swans Preseason 2015 thread
Post by: Capper on October 02, 2014, 05:51:32 PM
Pretty much Goodes staying has meant that Membrey wants to go. I dont see Goodes playing all H&A games next year so Membrey would have got some senior games.

Hopefully he isnt the next Jesse White
Title: Re: Swans Preseason 2015 thread
Post by: SydneyRox on October 02, 2014, 09:56:29 PM
what do you think we get for eski? 2nd round, which might as well be 3rd.
Title: Re: Swans Preseason 2015 thread
Post by: Mailman the 2nd on October 03, 2014, 01:12:01 AM
2nd. With 3 or more clubs firmly interested and him getting AA should push him into the 2nd round bracket
Title: Re: Swans Preseason 2015 thread
Post by: Mailman the 2nd on October 03, 2014, 03:43:54 PM
https://twitter.com/emmasq/status/517892447032983553

Seems to suggest we'll pick up all 3 nominated in the Academy picks
Title: Re: Swans Preseason 2015 thread
Post by: Ricochet on October 03, 2014, 03:48:36 PM
What's Abe Davis like? haven't heard his name around much
Title: Re: Swans Preseason 2015 thread
Post by: Mailman the 2nd on October 03, 2014, 03:53:00 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on October 03, 2014, 03:48:36 PM
What's Abe Davis like? haven't heard his name around much

One of the better academy talls I think. I've played against him before when I was younger. Can play forward or back so I guess he's a project player.
Title: Re: Swans Preseason 2015 thread
Post by: Capper on October 03, 2014, 04:06:08 PM
Quote from: Mailman the 2nd on October 03, 2014, 03:43:54 PM
https://twitter.com/emmasq/status/517892447032983553

Seems to suggest we'll pick up all 3 nominated in the Academy picks
yes

http://www.afl.com.au/news/2014-10-03/drafts-dynamic-dozen

QuoteThe Sydney Swans will gain priority access to three academy prospects in midfielders Isaac Heeney and Jack Hiscox, and mobile tall Abe Davis.

Heeney, perhaps the most complete midfielder in the draft pool, will cost the club its first pick (No.17) with a rival likely to bid an early selection.
Title: Re: Swans Preseason 2015 thread
Post by: Capper on October 03, 2014, 04:09:23 PM
Quote from: tabs on September 27, 2014, 11:15:32 PM
Quote from: Nige on September 27, 2014, 10:58:43 PM
Quote from: Toga on September 27, 2014, 10:56:40 PM
You guys have got a steal locked in with Pick 17 in Heeney by the looks of it, I gather it will take a while before he'll break into the team though?
He's a serious talent. Honestly wouldn't be surprised to see him crack the seniors at some stage in 2015.
he is a gun and has been tearing it up ion the 2s and championships.

Pretty sure our first 3 picks are already in place for this year with Heaney, abe?? and Dunkley
Quote from: tabs on September 27, 2014, 11:21:07 PM
I couldnt find the link about our first 3 picks but i remember Dunkley will go with 3rd round pick as Heaney and I think Abe (not sure) will go with our first 2 picks via academy
Quote from: tabs on September 27, 2014, 11:42:16 PM
ok so Dunkley is the year after. I was right with Abe but there was a 3rd player that we might take from the academy this year.

We cant stack up on all mids though
Quote from: stew42 on September 28, 2014, 04:42:23 AM
I like the look of Jack Hiscox, medium fwd, but crumbs very well, plays more like a small
Yes Hiscox was the third i was thinking of
Title: Re: Swans Preseason 2015 thread
Post by: Mailman the 2nd on October 03, 2014, 04:14:52 PM
I think (hope) our 2nd round pick will be kept intact.

Heeney 100% 1st round. Don't think clubs will be willing to put a 2nd round on either Davis/Hiscox so I think we'd get them for 3rd and 4th.
Title: Re: Swans Preseason 2015 thread
Post by: Capper on October 03, 2014, 04:20:07 PM
I think we need to decide on what to do with the Rucks and backs. We have Derickx, Naismith and Nankervis to back up Pyke.

Dont see Derickx staying on pass next year.

Hopefully we take a back with our 2nd round
Title: Re: Swans Preseason 2015 thread
Post by: kilbluff1985 on October 03, 2014, 05:13:58 PM
Sydney rookie Patrick Mitchell has informed the club that he will be returning home to America.
Title: Re: Swans Preseason 2015 thread
Post by: Mailman the 2nd on October 03, 2014, 05:38:43 PM
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on October 03, 2014, 05:13:58 PM
Sydney rookie Patrick Mitchell has informed the club that he will be returning home to America.

A shame, although he was very far off the progression. Not everyone is Mike Pyke  :'(
Title: Re: Swans Preseason 2015 thread
Post by: Capper on October 03, 2014, 05:40:58 PM
Yes a fish definitely out of water.
Title: Re: Swans Preseason 2015 thread
Post by: Capper on October 03, 2014, 05:46:33 PM
Hiscox looking good. Set new record in 3km trial and 16.1 in the beep

http://www.afl.com.au/news/2014-10-03/swans-choice-flies-at-combine
Title: Re: Swans Preseason 2015 thread
Post by: Mailman the 2nd on October 03, 2014, 05:50:19 PM
Quote from: Mailman the 2nd on September 28, 2014, 10:48:27 AM
Quote from: stew42 on September 28, 2014, 04:42:23 AM
I like the look of Jack Hiscox, medium fwd, but crumbs very well, plays more like a small

I've played with him, he's crazy fast (like 800m nationals fast)
Title: Re: Swans Preseason 2015 thread
Post by: BoredSaint on October 03, 2014, 09:04:15 PM
what happens if Sydney trade their first pick? Do they get to select Heeney with their next pick or because they don't have a first round pick anymore, anyone can pick him up?
Title: Re: Swans Preseason 2015 thread
Post by: Ziplock on October 03, 2014, 09:11:47 PM
Quote from: BoredSaint on October 03, 2014, 09:04:15 PM
what happens if Sydney trade their first pick? Do they get to select Heeney with their next pick or because they don't have a first round pick anymore, anyone can pick him up?

the bidding happens prior to trade period I'm pretty sure.
Title: Re: Swans Preseason 2015 thread
Post by: Ringo on October 03, 2014, 09:20:48 PM
Yep Bidding takes place Monday before trade period starts so can not happen.
Title: Re: Swans Preseason 2015 thread
Post by: BoredSaint on October 03, 2014, 09:26:22 PM
Quote from: Ringo on October 03, 2014, 09:20:48 PM
Yep Bidding takes place Monday before trade period starts so can not happen.
So they can't trade that pick and the other 2 picks for the 3 academy players
Title: Re: Swans Preseason 2015 thread
Post by: Mailman the 2nd on October 03, 2014, 10:20:26 PM
Quote from: BoredSaint on October 03, 2014, 09:26:22 PM
Quote from: Ringo on October 03, 2014, 09:20:48 PM
Yep Bidding takes place Monday before trade period starts so can not happen.
So they can't trade that pick and the other 2 picks for the 3 academy players

All F/S and Academy bidding occurs before trade period. Once you commit a pick to a particular player, you cant do anything else with it
Title: Re: Swans Preseason 2015 thread
Post by: Capper on October 03, 2014, 10:49:12 PM
Sydney Swans @sydneyswans  9m 9 minutes ago
Rhyce Shaw and @adamroy37 will be back with the Swans next year. More: http://bit.ly/YZeQdH  #SkiltonMedal #goswans
Title: Re: Swans Preseason 2015 thread
Post by: stew42 on October 05, 2014, 04:36:12 PM
Dangerous words, I know, but would anyone have rathered keep Membrey over Goodes? I think I would've...
Title: Re: Swans Preseason 2015 thread
Post by: SydneyRox on October 05, 2014, 04:49:52 PM
Quote from: stew42 on October 05, 2014, 04:36:12 PM
Dangerous words, I know, but would anyone have rathered keep Membrey over Goodes? I think I would've...

honestly, i think he just inst up to the grade, towers is almost the same type of player, he got 3-4games this year, so it isnt just goodes or reid he has to get in front of
Title: Re: Swans Preseason 2015 thread
Post by: Mailman the 2nd on October 05, 2014, 05:12:24 PM
I like Membrey a lot more than Towers though. He showed he can lead and his height is misleading considering how he can mark.

Towers just feels like a poor crumber at the moment. He had the record for best vertical jump but I haven't sen it at all yet
Title: Re: Swans Preseason 2015 thread
Post by: My Chumps on October 05, 2014, 11:58:53 PM
Goodes was far from our worst player in the Granny. Don't think he's much of an issue as far as going another year.

Reece Shaw though has to be dropped if Malceski stays. Can't afford to have Eski, Rohan and Shaw in the same backline, and Shaw's the worst with the footy and has the least potential.

Sam Reid has to learn to play in the backline or he should be traded. I love the kid but we can't afford to have KTip, Buddy, Goodes and Reid up front. Surely we'd get something pretty good for him too?

I also reckon McGlynn has to go back to more of a crumbing forward role. He's been good this year in the guts, don't get me wrong, but it's not where we need him right now.
Title: Re: Swans Preseason 2015 thread
Post by: Mailman the 2nd on October 06, 2014, 12:28:24 PM
So Heeney, Hiscox and Davis go for rounds 1,2 and 4 respectively. Bit disappointing we don't have 2nd but I wonder what type of player we'll look at for round 3.
Title: Re: Swans Preseason 2015 thread
Post by: SydneyRox on October 06, 2014, 12:48:15 PM
Still should get a 2nd round compo for Eski. Plus most likely another 3rd for membrey. If all the Reid talk pans out could be more.

Though I would be hopeful we could work a defender like Patfull into the trade talks.
Title: Re: Swans Preseason 2015 thread
Post by: sammy123 on October 06, 2014, 04:27:32 PM
Well from watching the Grand final. I would ask rohan and jetta. To look elsewhere both were diagusting. Jetta looked uninterested
Title: Re: Swans Preseason 2015 thread
Post by: sammy123 on October 06, 2014, 04:28:14 PM
Wish eski would stay such a quality defender
Title: Re: Swans Preseason 2015 thread
Post by: Mailman the 2nd on October 06, 2014, 04:35:23 PM
Malceski is happy to stay if we can squeeze him in. Rohan and Jetta are best 22 staples for years to come.
Title: Re: Swans Preseason 2015 thread
Post by: My Chumps on October 06, 2014, 05:02:03 PM
Pretty confident Eski will stay tbh. His manager said he wants to stay, just about meeting his needs.
Title: Re: Swans Preseason 2015 thread
Post by: AFEV on October 06, 2014, 11:15:09 PM
Quote from: My Chumps on October 06, 2014, 05:02:03 PM
Pretty confident Eski will stay tbh. His manager said he wants to stay, just about meeting his needs.
Guess you didn't. Would have preferred to see Eski stay at the Swans. :(
Title: Re: Swans Preseason 2015 thread
Post by: Ziplock on October 06, 2014, 11:16:37 PM
Suns for the 8 :P

Title: Re: Swans Preseason 2015 thread
Post by: kilbluff1985 on October 06, 2014, 11:18:18 PM
Quote from: Ziplock on October 06, 2014, 11:16:37 PM
Suns for the 8 :P

Duh!
Title: Re: Swans Preseason 2015 thread
Post by: SydneyRox on October 06, 2014, 11:18:21 PM
yeah, not very happy but it is what it is.

We have eski covered to replace, but not sure it bodes well for future losses either.
Title: Re: Swans Preseason 2015 thread
Post by: Mailman the 2nd on October 06, 2014, 11:24:59 PM
Definitely disappointed given all the support the club gave him with his knee reco's to get him where he is today but whatever.

Hope he does well
Title: Re: Swans Preseason 2015 thread
Post by: My Chumps on October 07, 2014, 12:09:13 AM
Absolutely flowering useless management on our behalf. Feeling the sting of paying Buddy/Tip so much already.


The team that beat us by 60 flowering points add an All Australian full back and we lose an All Australian half-back. Now we have to deal with Reece Shaw as the main ball user from half back. flower me.

Bloody hope we sign Patful now.
Title: Re: Swans Preseason 2015 thread
Post by: Ringo on October 07, 2014, 11:59:59 AM
Patful for your Eski compo pick will be fine
Title: Re: Swans Preseason 2015 thread
Post by: SydneyRox on October 07, 2014, 01:02:38 PM
Quote from: Ringo on October 07, 2014, 11:59:59 AM
Patful for your Eski compo pick will be fine

Round 2? Listening to trade radio I am nervous... Hope they put us out of our misery today!
Title: Re: Swans Preseason 2015 thread
Post by: Ringo on October 07, 2014, 06:32:09 PM
This is BS and not a Sydney Fan

AFL ‏@AFL 9m9 minutes ago

The Swans
Title: Re: Swans Preseason 2015 thread
Post by: SydneyRox on October 07, 2014, 06:33:55 PM
BS you think should have been rnd1?

Still happy to give us Patful for pick 40? :P

Title: Re: Swans Preseason 2015 thread
Post by: Ringo on October 07, 2014, 06:34:47 PM
Do SR based on the Frawley Compensation pick and was hoping for a pick in the 20's for Patful.
Title: Re: Swans Preseason 2015 thread
Post by: JBs-Hawks on October 07, 2014, 06:35:29 PM
By the looks of it, to get a rd 1 compo pick you need to have atleast 2m + earning power left.
Title: Re: Swans Preseason 2015 thread
Post by: Ricochet on October 07, 2014, 06:48:31 PM
Malceski deal was 3 years at 500k thats why its 2nd round. Can't really expect more than that given age tbh
Title: Re: Swans Preseason 2015 thread
Post by: Ziplock on October 07, 2014, 07:03:29 PM
Quote from: JBs-Hawks on October 07, 2014, 06:35:29 PM
By the looks of it, to get a rd 1 compo pick you need to have atleast 2m + earning power left.
Quote from: Ricochet on October 07, 2014, 06:48:31 PM
Malceski deal was 3 years at 500k thats why its 2nd round. Can't really expect more than that given age tbh

End of round 1 would have been reasonable, it would have been pick (20?) which given eski's ability and age probs would have been right.


then again, Buddy's compo was worse :P


Title: Re: Swans Preseason 2015 thread
Post by: Ricochet on October 07, 2014, 07:06:03 PM
True but its not based on ability ;)
Title: Re: Swans Preseason 2015 thread
Post by: Ziplock on October 07, 2014, 07:23:24 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on October 07, 2014, 07:06:03 PM
True but its not based on ability ;)
500k isn't a small contract.

Also, the ability of a player should be factored in with their age- as in it should take into account how many years they have left rather than how old they are.
Title: Re: Swans Preseason 2015 thread
Post by: Ricochet on October 07, 2014, 07:26:33 PM
Quote from: Ziplock on October 07, 2014, 07:23:24 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on October 07, 2014, 07:06:03 PM
True but its not based on ability ;)
500k isn't a small contract.

Also, the ability of a player should be factored in with their age- as in it should take into account how many years they have left rather than how old they are.
yeh I know and I agree ability should be included. But it isn't unfortunately. Think it was the 3 years and his age that = 2nd round.  compared to Higgins who got 4 years at 400k = 2nd round also, and is younger
Title: Re: Swans Preseason 2015 thread
Post by: Capper on October 11, 2014, 04:08:45 PM
Im surprised we got a R2, thought it might be a R3 for Esky
Title: Re: Swans Preseason 2015 thread
Post by: elephants on October 11, 2014, 04:21:19 PM
Quote from: tabs on October 11, 2014, 04:08:45 PM
Im surprised we got a R2, thought it might be a R3 for Esky

Classic. Bloody AFL love Sydney its ridiculous. Special treatment galore.

:P
Title: Re: Swans Preseason 2015 thread
Post by: Mailman the 2nd on October 11, 2014, 04:30:23 PM
Quote from: elephants on October 11, 2014, 04:21:19 PM
Quote from: tabs on October 11, 2014, 04:08:45 PM
Im surprised we got a R2, thought it might be a R3 for Esky

Classic. Bloody AFL love Sydney its ridiculous. Special treatment galore.

:P

God forbid the best defender in the afl gets adequate compensation!
Title: Re: Swans Preseason 2015 thread
Post by: Capper on October 14, 2014, 03:39:06 PM
Quote from: Mailman the 2nd on October 11, 2014, 04:30:23 PM
Quote from: elephants on October 11, 2014, 04:21:19 PM
Quote from: tabs on October 11, 2014, 04:08:45 PM
Im surprised we got a R2, thought it might be a R3 for Esky

Classic. Bloody AFL love Sydney its ridiculous. Special treatment galore.

:P

God forbid the best defender in the afl gets adequate compensation!
i wouldnt say best defender, he got alot of ball as no one was with him
Title: Re: Swans Preseason 2015 thread
Post by: Mailman the 2nd on October 14, 2014, 03:44:25 PM
I'd say its a fair statement.

Of all the defender roles, he's further ahead than anyone else.

Key Backs there are 5-6 who you can throw a blanket around.

Offensive Backs it goes Malceski then Smith and Hibberd are a bit behind and then a decent gap after
Title: Re: Swans Preseason 2015 thread
Post by: elephants on October 14, 2014, 04:22:39 PM
Best rebounder all season, best defender? Debatable.
Title: Re: Swans Preseason 2015 thread
Post by: SydneyRox on October 14, 2014, 04:26:42 PM
Quote from: elephants on October 14, 2014, 04:22:39 PM
Best rebounder all season, best defender? Debatable.

I am not arguing one way or the other, but if you say the best defender of the year comes from the back 6 from the AA Team, you could mount a pretty reasonable argument that Eski had the best year of them all.

Hooker, Talia, N.Smith

Eski, Rance, B.Smith


Title: Re: Swans Preseason 2015 thread
Post by: Capper on October 15, 2014, 04:19:15 PM
Wow, Plough is still not over what the Swans did to him 10 years ago
Title: Re: Swans Preseason 2015 thread
Post by: Ziplock on October 15, 2014, 04:39:06 PM
Quote from: tabs on October 15, 2014, 04:19:15 PM
Wow, Plough is still not over what the Swans did to him 10 years ago

He did get pretty shafted :P
Title: Re: Swans Preseason 2015 thread
Post by: Capper on October 15, 2014, 04:48:19 PM
Quote from: Ziplock on October 15, 2014, 04:39:06 PM
Quote from: tabs on October 15, 2014, 04:19:15 PM
Wow, Plough is still not over what the Swans did to him 10 years ago

He did get pretty shafted :P
yeah, i only found out today that he left, thought he was fired from tiges
Title: Re: Swans Preseason 2015 thread
Post by: SydneyRox on October 15, 2014, 05:15:43 PM
Quote from: Ziplock on October 15, 2014, 04:39:06 PM
Quote from: tabs on October 15, 2014, 04:19:15 PM
Wow, Plough is still not over what the Swans did to him 10 years ago

He did get pretty shafted :P

best decision the club has ever made.... sorry but plough would never had led to 05,06
Title: Re: Swans Preseason 2015 thread
Post by: SydneyRox on October 15, 2014, 05:17:40 PM
I am concerned by one thing I read today regarding salary space which means we will also lose Biggs for nothing since we apparently dont have the cash to upgrade him to the main list? While he is a long way behind others in the midfield side of things, seems a shame we are getting rid of this talent. Lamb, Membrey, and probably Biggs for nothing at all because we dont have room to negotiate.
Title: Re: Swans Preseason 2015 thread
Post by: Toga on October 15, 2014, 05:35:38 PM
I heard a couple of weeks back that Biggs was requesting a trade... But haven't heard anything since... What's the deal there?

Is he on the rookie list and needing to be upgraded, but you don't have the space? So what happens?
Title: Re: Swans Preseason 2015 thread
Post by: SydneyRox on October 15, 2014, 05:52:52 PM
Quote from: Toga on October 15, 2014, 05:35:38 PM
I heard a couple of weeks back that Biggs was requesting a trade... But haven't heard anything since... What's the deal there?

Is he on the rookie list and needing to be upgraded, but you don't have the space? So what happens?

I didnt hear he was asking to trade, but that others were knocking and looking.

He is a rookie and has been rookie for 3years I think. Too long that we cant simply leave him on the rookie list. Hasnt been delisted as yet and no trade, so i assume if we cant upgrade he will get delisted along with Membrey and go somewhere in the PSD.

Would be a great pickup IMO for most clubs.
Title: Re: Swans Preseason 2015 thread
Post by: Toga on October 15, 2014, 05:54:37 PM
Yeah I'm not sure if that's just a rumour or what, but that's what I heard somewhere. Agree that there would be a few clubs interested in him if he went to the PSD
Title: Re: Swans Preseason 2015 thread
Post by: Capper on October 15, 2014, 06:15:39 PM
Quote from: SydneyRox on October 15, 2014, 05:52:52 PM
Quote from: Toga on October 15, 2014, 05:35:38 PM
I heard a couple of weeks back that Biggs was requesting a trade... But haven't heard anything since... What's the deal there?

Is he on the rookie list and needing to be upgraded, but you don't have the space? So what happens?

I didnt hear he was asking to trade, but that others were knocking and looking.

He is a rookie and has been rookie for 3years I think. Too long that we cant simply leave him on the rookie list. Hasnt been delisted as yet and no trade, so i assume if we cant upgrade he will get delisted along with Membrey and go somewhere in the PSD.

Would be a great pickup IMO for most clubs.
So X is already on the seniors list and i think Lloyd is as well. Surely if Membrey goes we have the room? Doubt he will be there for the Swans to re-pick him

Would rather de-list Derickx than Biggs
Title: Re: Swans Preseason 2015 thread
Post by: SydneyRox on October 15, 2014, 06:52:25 PM
Quote from: tabs on October 15, 2014, 06:15:39 PM
Quote from: SydneyRox on October 15, 2014, 05:52:52 PM
Quote from: Toga on October 15, 2014, 05:35:38 PM
I heard a couple of weeks back that Biggs was requesting a trade... But haven't heard anything since... What's the deal there?

Is he on the rookie list and needing to be upgraded, but you don't have the space? So what happens?

I didnt hear he was asking to trade, but that others were knocking and looking.

He is a rookie and has been rookie for 3years I think. Too long that we cant simply leave him on the rookie list. Hasnt been delisted as yet and no trade, so i assume if we cant upgrade he will get delisted along with Membrey and go somewhere in the PSD.

Would be a great pickup IMO for most clubs.
So X is already on the seniors list and i think Lloyd is as well. Surely if Membrey goes we have the room? Doubt he will be there for the Swans to re-pick him

Would rather de-list Derickx than Biggs

If i can find it I will post it, but saw an article saying they have committed to upgrading X and Lloyd. No mention of Biggs.

The mention of Biggs was that we couldnt afford to upgrade him, but that didnt make sense to me looking simply at the in/outs

Title: Re: Swans Preseason 2015 thread
Post by: SydneyRox on October 15, 2014, 07:01:18 PM
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2014-10-14/trade-wrap-trade-period-set-to-explode

The relevant part...

The Swans have committed to three Academy players in the upcoming NAB AFL Draft, as well as rookies Jake Lloyd and Xavier Richards, who have been promoted to the senior list. 
   
It is understood there is insufficient cap space to also promote Biggs to a 38-man primary list, but he is a player the Swans would expect compensation for losing.

Essendon is also understood to be pursuing the 23-year-old, who played three games in 2014 and two finals in 2013.

If Biggs does not find a home by Thursdays 2pm trade deadline, he would be expected to move freely as a delisted free agent, given the Swans are unable to promote him and he can't be retained as a rookie for a fourth season.

Title: Re: Swans Preseason 2015 thread
Post by: JBs-Hawks on October 15, 2014, 07:02:40 PM
Dem COLA feels
Title: Re: Swans Preseason 2015 thread
Post by: SydneyRox on October 15, 2014, 07:09:21 PM
I dont get it though

With ROK, Eski, LRT going out, there are some decent dollars.

Walsh, Lockyer and Dick were all on the main list.

So that is 6 spots, with only Lockyer and Dick on reduced.

We have committed to 3 academy players and upgrading 2 players? Surely the nett worth of those plus Biggs is less than the top 6?
Title: Re: Swans Preseason 2015 thread
Post by: Ziplock on October 15, 2014, 07:13:55 PM
Quote from: SydneyRox on October 15, 2014, 07:09:21 PM
I dont get it though

With ROK, Eski, LRT going out, there are some decent dollars.

Walsh, Lockyer and Dick were all on the main list.

So that is 6 spots, with only Lockyer and Dick on reduced.

We have committed to 3 academy players and upgrading 2 players? Surely the nett worth of those plus Biggs is less than the top 6?

must be the reduction in cola?
Title: Re: Swans Preseason 2015 thread
Post by: SydneyRox on October 15, 2014, 07:19:12 PM
yeah maybe, but factor in Goodes, Richards, Shaw and maybe Pyke going next year, year after there should be close the $1m they need to lose there.
Title: Re: Swans Preseason 2015 thread
Post by: Dudge on October 15, 2014, 08:28:20 PM
Bottemless pit of money I say :)
Title: Re: Swans Preseason 2015 thread
Post by: Mailman the 2nd on October 15, 2014, 08:32:58 PM
Quote from: SydneyRox on October 15, 2014, 07:19:12 PM
yeah maybe, but factor in Goodes, Richards, Shaw and maybe Pyke going next year, year after there should be close the $1m they need to lose there.

Yeah but it gets reduced year by year for two of them, so we're making concessions this year already
Title: Re: Swans Preseason 2015 thread
Post by: stew42 on October 16, 2014, 02:40:52 PM
Absolutely shattered that we lost two of my favourite reserves players in Membrey and Biggs :(
Title: Re: Swans Preseason 2015 thread
Post by: Capper on October 16, 2014, 03:15:57 PM
Quote from: stew42 on October 16, 2014, 02:40:52 PM
Absolutely shattered that we lost two of my favourite reserves players in Membrey and Biggs :(
missed all of todays trade news but dont see membrey's name mentioned anywhere. Will he go to the PSD then? If we cant keep Biggs then surely we cant keep Membrey.
Title: Re: Swans Preseason 2015 thread
Post by: stew42 on October 16, 2014, 03:18:45 PM
Quote from: tabs on October 16, 2014, 03:15:57 PM
Quote from: stew42 on October 16, 2014, 02:40:52 PM
Absolutely shattered that we lost two of my favourite reserves players in Membrey and Biggs :(
missed all of todays trade news but dont see membrey's name mentioned anywhere. Will he go to the PSD then? If we cant keep Biggs then surely we cant keep Membrey.
Yup he's gone. Saints have said that they'll use pick 1 of preseason draft on him.

In other news, who else would prefer that we kept Biggsy and that Shaw retired instead?
Title: Re: Swans Preseason 2015 thread
Post by: Toga on October 16, 2014, 03:19:41 PM
Membrey will go at Pick 1 in the Preseason draft to the Saints
Title: Re: Swans Preseason 2015 thread
Post by: Capper on October 16, 2014, 03:30:10 PM
Quote from: SydneyRox on October 15, 2014, 07:09:21 PM
I dont get it though

With ROK, Eski, LRT going out, there are some decent dollars.

Walsh, Lockyer and Dick were all on the main list.

So that is 6 spots, with only Lockyer and Dick on reduced.

We have committed to 3 academy players and upgrading 2 players? Surely the nett worth of those plus Biggs is less than the top 6?
i dont think that LRT would have been on the same money as PEbbles and Esky but surely that still gives us breathing room in the cap?

Does this mean that our nat picks will be Heeney, Hiscox, Davis and 2 rookie elevations. Then our list will be filled with rookies
Title: Re: Swans Preseason 2015 thread
Post by: Capper on October 17, 2014, 12:22:21 PM
Quote from: Mailman the 2nd on October 11, 2014, 04:30:23 PM
Quote from: elephants on October 11, 2014, 04:21:19 PM
Quote from: tabs on October 11, 2014, 04:08:45 PM
Im surprised we got a R2, thought it might be a R3 for Esky

Classic. Bloody AFL love Sydney its ridiculous. Special treatment galore.

:P

God forbid the best defender in the afl gets adequate compensation!
So glad we got a Round 2 compensation pick for Esky so now we can sit there and watch as we pass on the pick
Title: Re: Swans Preseason 2015 thread
Post by: Capper on October 17, 2014, 01:29:52 PM
Quote from: tabs on October 17, 2014, 12:22:21 PM
Quote from: Mailman the 2nd on October 11, 2014, 04:30:23 PM
Quote from: elephants on October 11, 2014, 04:21:19 PM
Quote from: tabs on October 11, 2014, 04:08:45 PM
Im surprised we got a R2, thought it might be a R3 for Esky

Classic. Bloody AFL love Sydney its ridiculous. Special treatment galore.

:P

God forbid the best defender in the afl gets adequate compensation!
So glad we got a Round 2 compensation pick for Esky so now we can sit there and watch as we pass on the pick
Glad we got a pick for picks as well to pass on
Title: Re: Swans Preseason 2015 thread
Post by: stew42 on November 08, 2014, 03:36:35 AM
My thoughts about Reid in 2011: "Wow, this guy will be great for us. Elite potential."

My thoughts now:
(http://i.imgur.com/xgL4eSV.gif)
Title: Re: Swans Preseason 2015 thread
Post by: Mr.Craig on November 09, 2014, 01:25:37 AM
In retrospect that 5 year deal he got seems...less than wise. You look at his last four years and there's basically been zero improvement. It's a shame because I think everyone can see the potential there but it's just not being realised.

Title: Re: Swans Preseason 2015 thread
Post by: stew42 on November 09, 2014, 01:28:48 AM
The sad thing is that I think the only spot for him where he can flourish atm is CHB. Looks weak and lost as the 3rd tall fwd :(
Title: Re: Swans Preseason 2015 thread
Post by: Mr.Craig on November 09, 2014, 01:34:29 AM
I think part of the problem is psychological tbh.
Title: Re: Swans Preseason 2015 thread
Post by: Mailman the 2nd on November 09, 2014, 09:16:18 AM
Eh I'm a lot less skeptical. He's still only 23 years old and I think his goalkicking has actually been cleaned up a lot. I think the fact that Adam Goodes is in the side as a 4th tall just disrupts his on field ability too much. As soon as Tippet and Franklin came in with Goodes Reid was never going to be kicking more than 20-25 goals in a season with them.

Not to mention he had a really crap year last year with injury which derailed all his good progress in 2011 and 2012 so I don't think his return this year was that bad.

I would hardly say there's been 0 improvement over the 4 years. He was going really well up until last year and he's getting back on track
Title: Re: Swans Preseason 2015 thread
Post by: Mr.Craig on November 09, 2014, 01:34:30 PM
I was speaking more from a statistical viewpoint. There obviously should have been development in certain areas between the ages of 19 and 22 but until you actually see the results on the park it's hard to quantify that as an outsider.
Title: Re: Swans Preseason 2015 thread
Post by: Mailman the 2nd on November 09, 2014, 03:09:58 PM
31 goals in 2012 for a 20 year old was a good improvement from his first real season in 2011. Had he not got injured and Tippett hadn't been traded in I would've been confident he could've gone to 40-50 goals in a season.

Now the entire landscape for him has changed. It's easy for a small guy to hang around the big two and keep their stats up but for a young Tall like him he was never going to open up the field on his return. He's not even in the main trio targets like the Hawks have he's a bit more like a David Hale type player (obviously not a serious ruckman though).

This year he's added a couple of utility skills to his kit in the ruck and defence (e.g. when he saved the game vs. Port) to the point where I think the 5 year deal was justified.

Title: Re: Swans Preseason 2015 thread
Post by: SydneyRox on November 10, 2014, 06:21:41 PM
I think at the time we didnt have a lot of choice, there were plenty of teams ready to offer him a good long deal. He hasnt gone on as well as we might have hoped, but with Tippett and Buddy there now he needs to play a role rather than be the 40-50 goal a year fwd.
If he gets over the injuries from this year, then he will become more of a factor. In a rotating fwd line his role is easily the hardest and the easiest to criticise. 
Title: Re: Swans Preseason 2015 thread
Post by: Capper on November 11, 2014, 03:28:07 PM
If he can get his body right then he will be a great player either roaming in the forward line or swinging from HB
Title: Re: Swans Preseason 2015 thread
Post by: Mailman the 2nd on November 18, 2014, 02:42:27 PM
http://www.sydneyswans.com.au/news/2014-11-17/preseason-kicks-off

1st to 4th years got back onto the track
Title: Re: Swans Preseason 2015 thread
Post by: Capper on November 19, 2014, 04:43:43 PM
Nice to see Lloyd Perris get third in the time trial but im wondering if it was meant to be Jake Lloyd instead.
QuoteHiscox took an early lead and consistently increased his gap on the field throughout the time-trial, taking out the honours from Rampe, Lloyd Perris, Cunningham and Dan Robinson.

Wouldnt have thought he would be back so soon after his 2nd ACL reco
Title: Re: Swans Preseason 2015 thread
Post by: SydneyRox on November 19, 2014, 06:24:03 PM
Quote from: tabs on November 19, 2014, 04:43:43 PM
Nice to see Lloyd Perris get third in the time trial but im wondering if it was meant to be Jake Lloyd instead.
QuoteHiscox took an early lead and consistently increased his gap on the field throughout the time-trial, taking out the honours from Rampe, Lloyd Perris, Cunningham and Dan Robinson.

Wouldnt have thought he would be back so soon after his 2nd ACL reco

Looks to be right, which is great news for all my respective Xv's that I took him in!!

Further down the article

" Tom Derickx, Aliir Aliir and Perris all returned following the respective injuries which ruled them out of the second-half of the 2014 season, with Perris particularly impressive on his resumption from a ruptured anterior cruciate "
Title: Re: Swans Preseason 2015 thread
Post by: Capper on November 20, 2014, 05:39:16 PM
Quote from: SydneyRox on November 19, 2014, 06:24:03 PM
Quote from: tabs on November 19, 2014, 04:43:43 PM
Nice to see Lloyd Perris get third in the time trial but im wondering if it was meant to be Jake Lloyd instead.
QuoteHiscox took an early lead and consistently increased his gap on the field throughout the time-trial, taking out the honours from Rampe, Lloyd Perris, Cunningham and Dan Robinson.

Wouldnt have thought he would be back so soon after his 2nd ACL reco

Looks to be right, which is great news for all my respective Xv's that I took him in!!

Further down the article

" Tom Derickx, Aliir Aliir and Perris all returned following the respective injuries which ruled them out of the second-half of the 2014 season, with Perris particularly impressive on his resumption from a ruptured anterior cruciate "
that is outstanding if he has done that, or some of the boys need to lift a lot
Title: Re: Swans Preseason 2015 thread
Post by: stew42 on November 25, 2014, 05:12:18 PM
Good article here: http://www.sydneyswans.com.au/news/2014-11-25/swans-confident-in-draft-depth

Particularly:
QuoteWhile the Swans will play a small role on draft night, Beatson confirmed the club would be more active at the Rookie Draft on December 3.
"We'll have a minimum of four picks in the rookie draft," he said.

"There might be some target areas that we need to identify and see whether we can assist the list.

"That of course depends on who is there and who gets through the National Draft.

"Our earliest pick in the rookie draft will still be pick 17, so we're a fair way in."
Title: Re: Swans Preseason 2015 thread
Post by: Capper on November 28, 2014, 01:15:46 PM
blah blah blah stfu

http://www.sydneyswans.com.au/video/2014-11-27/swanstv-afl-reconsiders-trade-ban
Title: Re: Swans Preseason 2015 thread
Post by: My Chumps on November 28, 2014, 01:33:23 PM
With Heeney officially joining last night, does he contend straight away for a starting spot over Lloyd/Cunningham?
Title: Re: Swans Preseason 2015 thread
Post by: SydneyRox on November 28, 2014, 01:43:16 PM
Quote from: My Chumps on November 28, 2014, 01:33:23 PM
With Heeney officially joining last night, does he contend straight away for a starting spot over Lloyd/Cunningham?

Some real interesting choices for the coach to make! You would have to say Cunners is safe IMO, Lloyd??
Title: Re: Swans Preseason 2015 thread
Post by: Capper on November 28, 2014, 03:21:40 PM
Quote from: SydneyRox on November 28, 2014, 01:43:16 PM
Quote from: My Chumps on November 28, 2014, 01:33:23 PM
With Heeney officially joining last night, does he contend straight away for a starting spot over Lloyd/Cunningham?

Some real interesting choices for the coach to make! You would have to say Cunners is safe IMO, Lloyd??
it would be a tough call to drop Lloyd for Heeney after Lloyd's performances this year
Title: Re: Swans Preseason 2015 thread
Post by: Mailman the 2nd on November 28, 2014, 03:39:25 PM
I think he does at some point, but I'd be surprised if he plays more than 5-7 games.

Remember guys like Craig Bird were dropped to the NEAFL at the beginning of the year so I think there will be a bit of shuffling around guys like B.Jack, Heeney, Mitchell and Lloyd until Horse finds his right combination
Title: Re: Swans Preseason 2015 thread
Post by: My Chumps on November 28, 2014, 05:32:14 PM
Definitely think Mitchell has to be in our best 21. Got crushed in the contested ball in that grand final.
Title: Re: Swans Preseason 2015 thread
Post by: SydneyRox on December 07, 2014, 01:55:24 PM
From afl.com today - our round 1 team

Sydney Swans

B: Nick Smith, Ted Richards, Sam Reid
HB: Gary Rohan, Heath Grundy, Dane Rampe
C: Kieren Jack, Josh Kennedy, Harry Cunningham
HF: Tom Mitchell, Lance Franklin, Dan Hannebery
F: Adam Goodes, Kurt Tippett, Ben McGlynn
R: Mike Pyke, Luke Parker, Jarrad McVeigh
I/C: Rhyce Shaw, Lewis Jetta, Craig Bird
Sub: Jake Lloyd

New players: None
Unavailable: Alex Johnson (knee)

Comment: Expect minor tweaks to the Swans' best line-up after their crushing Grand Final defeat. Sam Reid could vacate a crowded forward line and look to add to size in defence, while Gary Rohan shapes as a full-time replacement off half-back for departed All Australian Nick Malceski. Tom Mitchell has made an eye-catching start to pre-season and the time may be right to thrust the clearance specialist into senior football consistently, easing in off half-forward. Disappointing Grand Final performances shouldn't force Lewis Jetta and Jake Lloyd out of the team, but there will be pressure ahead of round one from prized draftee Isaac Heeney and Brandon Jack, who is yet to carve out his role at the Swans. Zak Jones has enjoyed a strong start to pre-season and is eyeing a role in the backline
Title: Re: Swans Preseason 2015 thread
Post by: Ricochet on December 07, 2014, 04:17:50 PM
Quote from: SydneyRox on December 07, 2014, 01:55:24 PM
while Gary Rohan shapes as a full-time replacement off half-back for departed All Australian Nick Malceski.

Thoughts?? I know he went back there a bit at the end of the year
Title: Re: Swans Preseason 2015 thread
Post by: Mailman the 2nd on December 07, 2014, 06:03:36 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on December 07, 2014, 04:17:50 PM
Quote from: SydneyRox on December 07, 2014, 01:55:24 PM
while Gary Rohan shapes as a full-time replacement off half-back for departed All Australian Nick Malceski.

Thoughts?? I know he went back there a bit at the end of the year

Definitely will be, or at least given every opportunity. He tore apart North in the Prelim and with more application in 2015 he can easily be a faster version of rhyce shaw
Title: Re: Swans Preseason 2015 thread
Post by: SydneyRox on December 08, 2014, 03:06:47 PM
Quote from: Mailman the 2nd on December 07, 2014, 06:03:36 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on December 07, 2014, 04:17:50 PM
Quote from: SydneyRox on December 07, 2014, 01:55:24 PM
while Gary Rohan shapes as a full-time replacement off half-back for departed All Australian Nick Malceski.

Thoughts?? I know he went back there a bit at the end of the year

Definitely will be, or at least given every opportunity. He tore apart North in the Prelim and with more application in 2015 he can easily be a faster version of rhyce shaw

Yeah, he looked good. This is his starting position, though Zak Jones is aiming for the same role.
Title: Re: Swans Preseason 2015 thread
Post by: stew42 on December 08, 2014, 04:56:07 PM
New numbers: http://www.sydneyswans.com.au/news/2014-12-08/cygnets-in-famous-numbers

Heeney to wear O'Keefe's #5, Abe Davis #9, Jack Hiscox #17, Rose #1, Newman #28, Dan Robinson #27, McLaren #30, Melican #43, Foote #45
Title: Re: Swans Preseason 2015 thread
Post by: kilbluff1985 on December 08, 2014, 10:09:03 PM
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2014-12-08/new-swans-dream-number
Title: Re: Swans Preseason 2015 thread
Post by: Capper on December 10, 2014, 04:42:38 PM
So Robo keeps his same number and neither X or Lloyd get their numbers updated
Title: Re: Swans Preseason 2015 thread
Post by: SydneyRox on December 10, 2014, 05:06:19 PM
Quote from: tabs on December 10, 2014, 04:42:38 PM
So Robo keeps his same number and neither X or Lloyd get their numbers updated

and Heeney gets 5. What does it tell you?  ;)
Title: Re: Swans Preseason 2015 thread
Post by: Capper on December 10, 2014, 05:11:26 PM
Quote from: SydneyRox on December 10, 2014, 05:06:19 PM
Quote from: tabs on December 10, 2014, 04:42:38 PM
So Robo keeps his same number and neither X or Lloyd get their numbers updated

and Heeney gets 5. What does it tell you?  ;)
Heeney takes Pebbles spot in the 2s  :P
Title: Re: Swans Preseason 2015 thread
Post by: SydneyRox on December 10, 2014, 05:23:08 PM
Quote from: tabs on December 10, 2014, 05:11:26 PM
Quote from: SydneyRox on December 10, 2014, 05:06:19 PM
Quote from: tabs on December 10, 2014, 04:42:38 PM
So Robo keeps his same number and neither X or Lloyd get their numbers updated

and Heeney gets 5. What does it tell you?  ;)
Heeney takes Pebbles spot in the 2s  :P

LOL - you are prob right. I was going to say who was the last youngster to go straight into single figures thinking about Hanners.

But Abe got #9 and Rose got the #1 that Membrey got from the get go as well.  :-\
Title: Re: Swans Preseason 2015 thread
Post by: Capper on December 16, 2014, 02:52:06 PM
http://www.sydneyswans.com.au/news/2014-12-15/swans-coaching-reshuffle

The Sydney Swans coaching team has reshuffled ahead of the 2015 season, with Josh Francou stepping up to the senior coaching ranks.

Francou, who headed up the club's development department for the past 12 months, will take on a new role as an assistant midfield coach next season alongside Stuart Dew, who will continue his role as midfield and strategy coach.

With Francou moving into the senior role, Marty Mattner will take on a new role within the club's development department, while Jared Crouch will step up as the Head of Development.
Title: Re: Swans Preseason 2015 thread
Post by: Capper on December 16, 2014, 02:56:16 PM
Longmire said Dane Rampe, Brandon Jack and Tom Mitchell were among the club's best performers, and highlighted Dan Hannebery's impressive effort in the three-kilometre time-trial as one of the best individual efforts to date.

"There are a number of blokes who have come back in terrific condition," he said.

"We're really happy that all the younger kids, who came back before the senior group came back to training, are in terrific condition.

"Guys like (Dane) Rampe, Brandon Jack and Tom Mitchell have set a really high standard to be able to put some real pressure on physically.

"Then the next group coming through, the older blokes, have been just as good, and we've had Daniel Hannebery turn up and run just under a PB for his three-kilometre time-trial.
Title: Re: Swans Preseason 2015 thread
Post by: stew42 on December 21, 2014, 10:46:56 AM
Brandon Jack using Sammy Naismith to measure rooms
https://twitter.com/brandonjack33/status/546078730272006146

Title: Re: Swans Preseason 2015 thread
Post by: Capper on December 22, 2014, 12:50:08 PM
haha cant see him lying the other way
Title: Re: Swans Preseason 2015 thread
Post by: Capper on December 23, 2014, 11:09:44 AM
Buddy and Jacinta are now engaged.

Not relevant at all but it gets me 1 post more closer to 10000
Title: Re: Swans Preseason 2015 thread
Post by: SydneyRox on December 23, 2014, 11:51:58 AM
Quote from: tabs on December 23, 2014, 11:09:44 AM
Buddy and Jacinta are now engaged.

Not relevant at all but it gets me 1 post more closer to 10000

Keep up the good work, it has been a pretty quiet off season for the Swans

Title: Re: Swans Preseason 2015 thread
Post by: My Chumps on December 23, 2014, 08:07:13 PM
Quote from: SydneyRox on December 23, 2014, 11:51:58 AM
Quote from: tabs on December 23, 2014, 11:09:44 AM
Buddy and Jacinta are now engaged.

Not relevant at all but it gets me 1 post more closer to 10000

Keep up the good work, it has been a pretty quiet off season for the Swans
Yeah it has, apart from the whole trade ban thing :P

Glad Buddy's got some stability in his life  8)
Title: Re: Swans Preseason 2015 thread
Post by: Capper on January 19, 2015, 03:51:15 PM
AFL Fantasy Prices

PLAYER   POSITION   PRICE
J. Kennedy   MID   $595,000
L. Parker   MID   $585,000
B. McGlynn   MID   $581,000
K. Jack   MID   $561,000
J. McVeigh   MID   $550,000
D. Hannebery   MID   $547,000
L. Franklin   FWD   $536,000
C. Bird   FWD, MID   $472,000
L. Jetta   FWD, MID   $436,000
T. Mitchell   FWD, MID   $432,000
R. Shaw   DEF   $422,000
M. Pyke   RUC   $382,000
D. Rampe   DEF   $380,000
H. Grundy   DEF   $358,000
J. Lloyd   FWD, MID   $353,000
K. Tippett   FWD   $350,000
A. Goodes   FWD   $348,000
N. Smith   DEF   $347,000
H. Cunningham   FWD, MID   $340,000
T. Richards   DEF   $317,000
S. Reid   FWD   $312,000
T. Derickx   RUC   $301,000
J. Laidler   DEF   $289,000
G. Rohan   DEF   $270,000
I. Heeney   MID   $246,000
D. Towers   FWD   $208,000
B. Jack   FWD   $190,000
J. Rose   FWD   $185,000
J. Hiscox   MID   $182,000
S. Naismith   RUC   $165,000
A. Johnson   DEF   $142,000
A. Davis   DEF, FWD   $142,000
Z. Jones   DEF   $142,000
A. Aliir   DEF   $120,000
N. Newman   DEF   $120,000
T. Nankervis   RUC   $120,000
S. McLaren   FWD, RUC   $120,000
L. Melican   DEF   $120,000
L. Perris   MID   $120,000
G. Hewett   MID   $120,000
H. Marsh   MID   $120,000
D. Robinson   MID   $120,000
X. Richards   DEF   $120,000
J. Foote   MID   $120,000
Title: Re: Swans Preseason 2015 thread
Post by: My Chumps on January 19, 2015, 07:06:40 PM
Anyone else strongly considering Dan Han this year? Maybe not enough points to go around that star studded midfield but I reckon he's set to go 110+.
Title: Re: Swans Preseason 2015 thread
Post by: Capper on January 21, 2015, 01:51:32 PM
Quote from: My Chumps on January 19, 2015, 07:06:40 PM
Anyone else strongly considering Jared Polec this year? Maybe not enough points to go around that star studded midfield but I reckon he's set to go 110+.
shhh!!!!!!!
Title: Re: Swans Preseason 2015 thread
Post by: SydneyRox on January 21, 2015, 02:00:33 PM
love him but I dont think polec is the go.
Title: Re: Swans Preseason 2015 thread
Post by: My Chumps on January 21, 2015, 03:19:54 PM
 8)
Title: Re: Swans Preseason 2015 thread
Post by: GoLions on January 29, 2015, 11:11:06 PM
Just read on facebook that Alex Johnson will miss all of 2015 with the same knee injury. Anyone have any sources to back that up? Extremely unlucky if true.
Title: Re: Swans Preseason 2015 thread
Post by: Ricochet on January 30, 2015, 10:54:26 AM
Quote from: GoLions on January 29, 2015, 11:11:06 PM
Just read on facebook that Alex Johnson will miss all of 2015 with the same knee injury. Anyone have any sources to back that up? Extremely unlucky if true.
Yep here it is man

http://www.afl.com.au/news/2015-01-30/swan-to-miss-season

Poor bloke. Couldn't imagine going through what he, Morabito, Menzel and co have.
Title: Re: Swans Preseason 2015 thread
Post by: SydneyRox on January 30, 2015, 11:30:08 AM
Yeah, it really is horrible news for a young kid that showed so much promise. Hopefully he can get back playing, three years is a long time to be rehabbing!

Title: Re: Swans Preseason 2015 thread
Post by: Capper on January 30, 2015, 01:30:19 PM
Sounds like it will be longer than just this year though if he hasnt had the op yet

QuoteThe 22-year-old is set to undergo a bone graft operation in March to prepare him for his next reconstruction.

Title: Re: Swans Preseason 2015 thread
Post by: Ricochet on February 04, 2015, 01:44:52 PM
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2015-02-04/swans-learn-down-back?utm_medium=RSS

THE SYDNEY Swans are trialling tall forward Sam Reid and wingman Lewis Jetta in new backline roles in an effort to make their line-up more flexible in 2015.

After losing free agent Nick Malceski to Gold Coast at the end of last season, the Swans have earmarked Jetta as a potential replacement running off half-back, where his pace and penetrating kick can be an asset.

The 196cm Reid, meanwhile, who kicked 17 goals in 20 games last season, could add height to a backline that will be led by Ted Richards (192cm) and Heath Grundy (192cm).

Both Reid and Jetta played backline roles in the Swans' intra-club match in Coffs Harbour on Wednesday morning, impressing coach John Longmire.
Title: Re: Swans Preseason 2015 thread
Post by: My Chumps on February 04, 2015, 01:56:13 PM
Really, really hope that Reid can make the transition successfully. Need some good quality key defenders coming up for when Richards and Grundy are past it.

Jetta's interesting. Definitely has a better disposal than most of the guys we've got down there atm. Not sure about his defensive capabilities tho.
Title: Re: Swans Preseason 2015 thread
Post by: Capper on February 04, 2015, 06:43:17 PM
Quote from: My Chumps on February 04, 2015, 01:56:13 PM
Really, really hope that Reid can make the transition successfully. Need some good quality key defenders coming up for when Richards and Grundy are past it.

Jetta's interesting. Definitely has a better disposal than most of the guys we've got down there atm. Not sure about his defensive capabilities tho.
my thoughts exactly
Title: Re: Swans Preseason 2015 thread
Post by: Mailman the 2nd on February 04, 2015, 08:11:45 PM
Reid yes, he's already had some minor experience down back.

Jetta much less keen on. Why not just keep him in the same position that he had his breakout season in? I understand the environment in the forward line has changed a lot but I would've thought he'd fit in well
Title: Re: Swans Preseason 2015 thread
Post by: SydneyRox on February 04, 2015, 08:57:56 PM
i think both of these might be more a fit for structure thing to give us flexibilty. fully expect rohan/heeney/laidler to fill out the backline. Reid working as a swingman role works for me. jetts learning new roles to cover injury works, but i would much prefer him running into an open fwd line than trying to deliver off half back
Title: Re: Swans Preseason 2015 thread
Post by: My Chumps on February 04, 2015, 10:48:58 PM
Quote from: SydneyRox on February 04, 2015, 08:57:56 PM
i think both of these might be more a fit for structure thing to give us flexibilty. fully expect rohan/heeney/laidler to fill out the backline. Reid working as a swingman role works for me. jetts learning new roles to cover injury works, but i would much prefer him running into an open fwd line than trying to deliver off half back
He's such a penetrating/long kick tho which is probably why Horse is testing him down there. 
Title: Re: Swans Preseason 2015 thread
Post by: Capper on February 05, 2015, 02:35:01 PM
Quote from: My Chumps on February 04, 2015, 10:48:58 PM
Quote from: SydneyRox on February 04, 2015, 08:57:56 PM
i think both of these might be more a fit for structure thing to give us flexibilty. fully expect rohan/heeney/laidler to fill out the backline. Reid working as a swingman role works for me. jetts learning new roles to cover injury works, but i would much prefer him running into an open fwd line than trying to deliver off half back
He's such a penetrating/long kick tho which is probably why Horse is testing him down there.
is Jetts learning a new role to cover Rooster??
Title: Re: Swans Preseason 2015 thread
Post by: SydneyRox on February 05, 2015, 02:48:40 PM
Quote from: tabs on February 05, 2015, 02:35:01 PM
Quote from: My Chumps on February 04, 2015, 10:48:58 PM
Quote from: SydneyRox on February 04, 2015, 08:57:56 PM
i think both of these might be more a fit for structure thing to give us flexibilty. fully expect rohan/heeney/laidler to fill out the backline. Reid working as a swingman role works for me. jetts learning new roles to cover injury works, but i would much prefer him running into an open fwd line than trying to deliver off half back
He's such a penetrating/long kick tho which is probably why Horse is testing him down there.
is Jetts learning a new role to cover Rooster??

I think its just an issue of having as many players being able to adapt into different roles if there are injuries etc.

The idea of Rohan and Jetta streaming out of the backline breaking through zones and kicking into the fwd line sounds like a handfull?

Title: Re: Swans Preseason 2015 thread
Post by: Mailman the 2nd on February 05, 2015, 03:44:14 PM
Maybe offensively, but McVeigh, Rohan, Shaw and Rampe are strong offensive defenders while having respectably strong defensive capabilites.

Jetta isn't particularly defensive. He doesn't have a big leap to help him either like Rohan does.
Title: Re: Swans Preseason 2015 thread
Post by: Ricochet on February 12, 2015, 10:07:21 AM
http://www.sydneyswans.com.au/news/2015-02-11/forward-focus-for-robbo?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter

Forward focus for Robbo

One common question every pre-season centres around the bargain picks in AFL Fantasy.

As Fantasy coaches shuffle the names on their whiteboards, they ponder who are the players who might be ready to take the next step to senior level, that can be picked up on the cheap?

Dan Robinson is one who may fit the bill, with a change of role paying dividends for the third year Swan.

After being rookie listed from the QBE Swans Academy in 2012, Robinson spent his first two years on the Swans’ list playing and staring in the midfield in the NEAFL.

This pre-season, however, Robinson has been moved into the forward line and is earning high praise from his teammates and coaches for his performance on the training track.

Swans coach John Longmire has earmarked Robinson to be one of the club’s big improvers this year and potentially follow in the footsteps of Harry Cunningham and Jake Lloyd who impressed in the senior team last year.

“Dan’s had a terrific pre-season,” Longmire said.

“We know he’s been a good midfielder, he played a lot in our reserves as a midfielder and did a really good job there.

“He probably would’ve played last year if he had the opportunity if he was on the senior list.

“This year, he’s had another really good pre-season, particularly as a smart half-forward â€" he uses the ball well, he can mark overhead and he’s a good kick for goal.”
Title: Re: Swans Preseason 2015 thread
Post by: SydneyRox on February 12, 2015, 11:24:13 AM
Damn was certain robbo was on the downlow.....

Title: Re: Swans Preseason 2015 thread
Post by: Capper on February 12, 2015, 03:33:18 PM
Quote from: SydneyRox on February 12, 2015, 11:24:13 AM
Damn was certain robbo was on the downlow.....
Well he was
Title: Re: Swans Preseason 2015 thread
Post by: Mailman the 2nd on February 12, 2015, 04:00:59 PM
Longmire is kinda earmarking everyone lol
Title: Re: Swans Preseason 2015 thread
Post by: LF on February 12, 2015, 04:05:24 PM
Quote from: Mailman the 2nd on February 12, 2015, 04:00:59 PM
Longmire is kinda confusing everyone lol
Title: Re: Swans Preseason 2015 thread
Post by: Capper on February 12, 2015, 05:19:01 PM
Quote from: LF on February 12, 2015, 04:05:24 PM
Quote from: Mailman the 2nd on February 12, 2015, 04:00:59 PM
Longmire is kinda confusing everyone lol
thats just how good the squad is
Title: Re: Swans Preseason 2015 thread
Post by: Capper on February 16, 2015, 02:52:19 PM
Heeney

“In his soccer he scored 68 goals in 12 games, when they were really young. But then he picked up a cricket bat and played an age above himself in division one up here in Newcastle and his batting average was 216”
Adam Heeney on his son Isaac

http://www.afl.com.au/news/2015-02-16/he-just-wants-to-play
Title: Re: Swans Preseason 2015 thread
Post by: T Dog on February 16, 2015, 03:01:22 PM
in my desperate search for defenders this year, I was wondering if anyone has heard how Gary Rohan is going this pre season?
Title: Re: Swans Preseason 2015 thread
Post by: Capper on February 16, 2015, 03:09:06 PM
Quote from: T Dog on February 16, 2015, 03:01:22 PM
in my desperate search for defenders this year, I was wondering if anyone has heard how Gary Rohan is going this pre season?
just reading this now

http://www.afl.com.au/news/2015-02-16/painfree-swan-to-soar
Title: Re: Swans Preseason 2015 thread
Post by: T Dog on February 16, 2015, 03:15:52 PM
Quote from: tabs on February 16, 2015, 03:09:06 PM
Quote from: T Dog on February 16, 2015, 03:01:22 PM
in my desperate search for defenders this year, I was wondering if anyone has heard how Gary Rohan is going this pre season?
just reading this now

http://www.afl.com.au/news/2015-02-16/painfree-swan-to-soar

Thanks Tabs. Nicely priced, just may be the early season pick I need.  ;)
Title: Re: Swans Preseason 2015 thread
Post by: Capper on February 16, 2015, 03:37:32 PM
Quote from: T Dog on February 16, 2015, 03:15:52 PM
Quote from: tabs on February 16, 2015, 03:09:06 PM
Quote from: T Dog on February 16, 2015, 03:01:22 PM
in my desperate search for defenders this year, I was wondering if anyone has heard how Gary Rohan is going this pre season?
just reading this now

http://www.afl.com.au/news/2015-02-16/painfree-swan-to-soar

Thanks Tabs. Nicely priced, just may be the early season pick I need.  ;)
Sounds like he will be rebounding
QuoteRohan's greatest asset is his ability to break games open with blinding runs from the defensive 50.

But his speed can be a detriment, with the 23-year-old acknowledging he has had to work hard on his kicking on the run.

"When I go to kick it, I've got to ease off a bit in those last two steps," Rohan says.

"I've worked a lot with Nick Davis in the pre-season as well and I'm probably kicking the best I have for a while which gives me more confidence.

"I'll back myself now which is good."
Title: Re: Swans Preseason 2015 thread
Post by: SydneyRox on February 16, 2015, 03:46:39 PM
my only concern is the information coming out of the swans doesnt match this article, that also references no one.

i do like to hear his info regarding taking a few steps to steady before disposal, was one area he did lack
Title: Re: Swans Preseason 2015 thread
Post by: Capper on February 16, 2015, 06:52:33 PM
Thinking about Jetta's role.......

Does he take Shaw's spot if Shaw doesn't hold his own in the first couple of weeks. I would prefer Jetta on the wing with the masssive boot kicking in to the 50 or kicking goals
Title: Re: Swans Preseason 2015 thread
Post by: SydneyRox on February 16, 2015, 06:54:34 PM
Quote from: tabs on February 16, 2015, 06:52:33 PM
Thinking about Jetta's role.......

Does he take Shaw's spot if Shaw doesn't hold his own in the first couple of weeks. I would prefer Jetta on the wing with the masssive boot kicking in to the 50 or kicking goals

Yeah, me too. Rohan into defense with Heeney/Jones or someone like that, Shaw/Laidler working through the other side, but only until the young kids are ready.

Leave Jetta on the wing and give Bjack the other.
Title: Re: Swans Preseason 2015 thread
Post by: Capper on February 16, 2015, 06:57:49 PM
Yes, Jones could be a straight replacement for Esky as well

BJack could be the sub, does have good wheels
Title: Re: Swans Preseason 2015 thread
Post by: jeff on February 26, 2015, 04:15:29 PM
Heeney is going to be an absolute Jet.

howmuchforbuddy.com

Title: Re: Swans Preseason 2015 thread
Post by: Ricochet on March 03, 2015, 04:58:23 PM
Looks like Tippett will miss 3-4 weeks after a knock to the knee
Title: Re: Swans Preseason 2015 thread
Post by: SydneyRox on March 04, 2015, 10:45:00 AM
Quote from: Ricochet on March 03, 2015, 04:58:23 PM
Looks like Tippett will miss 3-4 weeks after a knock to the knee

still saying he will be right for rnd 1.

not the best situation though
Title: Re: Swans Preseason 2015 thread
Post by: Capper on March 04, 2015, 01:10:01 PM
NAB Challenge squads: Sydney Swans v Lions

2. Rhyce  Shaw
4. Daniel Hannebery
5. Isaac Heeney
6. Tom Mitchell
7. Harry Cunningham
9. Abaina Davis
11. Jeremy Laidler
12. Josh Kennedy
13. Toby Nankervis
14. Craig Bird
15. Kieren Jack
16. Gary Rohan
17. Jack Hiscox
20. Sam Reid
21. Ben McGlynn
22. Dean Towers
24. Dane Rampe
26. Luke Parker
27. Daniel Robinson
29. George Hewett
31. Harrison Marsh
32. Lewis Jetta
33. Brandon Jack
35. Sam Naismith
38. Mike Pyke
39. Heath Grundy
40. Nick Smith
42. Xavier Richards
43. Lewis Melican

Missing
1. James Rose
3. Jarrad McVeigh (inj)
8. Kurt Tippett (inj)
10. Zak Jones
19. Tom Derickx
23.  Lance Franklin (inj)
25. Ted Richards
28. Nic Newman
30. Sean McLaren
34. Alex Johnson (inj)
36. Aliir Aliir (inj)
37. Adam Goodes
41. Lloyd Perris (inj)
44. Jake Lloyd (inj)
45. Jordan Foote

QuoteThe Swans will be without star forward duo Lance Franklin, whose troublesome right knee is being managed, and Kurt Tippett, who suffered a lower leg setback in Friday's intra-club match.

Adam Goodes has also been rested after a standout performance in the intra-club, with defender Ted Richards (hamstring), Jarrad McVeigh (calf) and Jake Lloyd (elbow) others missing.
Title: Re: Swans Preseason 2015 thread
Post by: Capper on March 04, 2015, 01:13:03 PM
Quote from: SydneyRox on March 04, 2015, 10:45:00 AM
Quote from: Ricochet on March 03, 2015, 04:58:23 PM
Looks like Tippett will miss 3-4 weeks after a knock to the knee

still saying he will be right for rnd 1.

not the best situation though
yeah could be a lot better

QuoteSYDNEY Swans star Kurt Tippett will not play in the NAB Challenge after suffering a lower leg injury in last Friday's intra-club match.

The Swans are hopeful, however, he will be available for round one despite missing up to four weeks of training as a result of the setback.

Tippett, who has otherwise enjoyed a strong pre-season, hurt his right tibia/fibula joint during the intra-club game at Marrickville.

"Kurt has had an outstanding pre-season so we don’t expect this setback to significantly impact his readiness for round one," Swans football manager Tom Harley said in a statement provided to AFL.com.au.

"He is likely to sit out our three NAB Challenge matches but at this stage remains on track for round one."
Title: Re: Swans Preseason 2015 thread
Post by: Mailman the 2nd on March 04, 2015, 04:47:50 PM
Not sure why Rose and Jones are missing the game
Title: Re: Swans Preseason 2015 thread
Post by: Capper on March 04, 2015, 05:46:14 PM
http://www.sydneyswans.com.au/news/2015-03-04/horse-hands-over-the-reins

Horse hands over the reins to his assistants for the NAB Challenge
QuoteSydney Swans coach John Longmire will hand the reins to his assistants during the NAB Challenge series.

John Blakey will call the shots this Friday night in Coffs Harbour when the Swans take on the Brisbane Lions at C.ex International Stadium.

Forwards coach Henry Playfair will take charge for the Swans’ second NAB Challenge match against Fremantle at Drummoyne Oval, while senior assistant Stuart Dew will be in the hot seat for the team’s final hit-out ahead of the season proper, against GWS in Canberra.
Title: Re: Swans Preseason 2015 thread
Post by: SydneyRox on March 12, 2015, 12:36:03 PM
http://www.sydneyswans.com.au/news/2015-03-11/round-one-selection-heats-up

Young Swans pushing for round 1.

and the Ins / Outs for NAB2 vs Freo

Adam Goodes, Lance Franklin, Ted Richards, Jarrad McVeigh, Tom Derickx and Jake Lloyd have all been named in the 29 man squad.

Sam Reid, Ben McGlynn, Abe Davis, Harry Marsh, Lewis Melican and George Hewett are out of the squad that lost to Brisbane in Coffs Harbour last week.

In: Derickx, Franklin, Goodes, McVeigh, Richards, Lloyd

Out: Davis, Marsh, McGlynn, Reid, Melican, Hewett

No massive surprises, Reid and Mcglynn being rested after getting knocks in NAB1, the others bar Melican didnt play.

Will be interesting to see how they utilise the 3 ruckmen or if they drop Nank/Derickx once the final teams are named.

Title: Re: Swans Preseason 2015 thread
Post by: Capper on March 12, 2015, 02:08:05 PM
the article says tippo also named to play but he wont, Lloyd also not there

SYDNEY SWANS v FREMANTLE
Drummoyne Oval, Sunday 15 March, 4.10pm AEDT

Sydney Swans
2. Rhyce Shaw, 3. Jarrad McVeigh, 4. Dan Hannebery, 5. Isaac Heeney, 6. Tom Mitchell, 7. Harry Cunningham, 11. Jeremy Laidler, 12. Josh Kennedy, 13. Toby Nankervis, 14. Craig Bird, 15. Kieren Jack, 16. Gary Rohan, 17. Jack Hiscox, 19. Tom Derickx, 22. Dean Towers, 23. Lance Franklin, 24. Dane Rampe, 25. Ted Richards, 26. Luke Parker, 27. Daniel Robinson, 32. Lewis Jetta, 33. Brandon Jack, 35. Sam Naismith, 37. Adam Goodes, 38. Mike Pyke, 39. Heath Grundy, 40. Nick Smith, 42. Xavier Richards.

Title: Re: Swans Preseason 2015 thread
Post by: Capper on March 12, 2015, 02:08:39 PM
also on a good note

http://www.sydneyswans.com.au/news/2015-03-12/nab-challenge-live-stream

Sunday’s NAB Challenge match against Fremantle at Drummoyne Oval is set to be streamed live on sydneyswans.com.au for Swans fans to enjoy wherever they are in the world.

Tune into the live stream from 4.10pm (EST) to catch all the action with a number of senior players set to return to the side for their first game of the pre-season
Title: Re: Swans Preseason 2015 thread
Post by: Capper on March 12, 2015, 03:37:23 PM
http://www.sydneyswans.com.au/news/2015-03-10/hannebery-a-settled-swan

Sounds promising for the "rookies" but how do they get into the team
Title: Re: Swans Preseason 2015 thread
Post by: FactHunt on March 15, 2015, 07:57:37 PM
Anyone watch the game today guys? Im interested who looks to be settling into a rebounding def role with eski gone?
Title: Re: Swans Preseason 2015 thread
Post by: SydneyRox on March 15, 2015, 08:58:15 PM
Quote from: FactHunt on March 15, 2015, 07:57:37 PM
Anyone watch the game today guys? Im interested who looks to be settling into a rebounding def role with eski gone?

it is clearly jettas for now. took a number of the kick ins as well, but dont think he did one to himself which was one of eskis ways of racking up points.

rohan also played through the role.


Title: Re: Swans Preseason 2015 thread
Post by: Mailman the 2nd on March 15, 2015, 09:15:45 PM
So far

Highlights:

Heeney pretty much completely solid all round in all areas. Similar to Heppell I think he's a bit on the thin side though, so I reckon next year is when he'll really shine.

Luke Parker pretty much 100%

Towers looked a lot better than he did for the entirety of last year

Disappointments:

Not much preseason development for the forwards. Franklin didn't really need to play, but Reid and Tippett injured again means Goodes will have a decent workload for the first couple of rounds.

No real other new standouts other than Heeney. I was hoping one of Hiscox, Robinson, Nank, Naismith , B.Jack or Melican would put in a good showing in one of the games, but I guess they were all given limited TOG
Title: Re: Swans Preseason 2015 thread
Post by: SydneyRox on March 15, 2015, 09:26:36 PM
i liked robinson, especially when he got a run on the ball. some quick hands and poise, but his time playing that role was limited
Title: Re: Swans Preseason 2015 thread
Post by: Mailman the 2nd on March 15, 2015, 09:28:40 PM
Yeah I thought he was decent but I really wanted him to get a 100% go to try and rack it up  :'(

I guess Horse probably already has a fair idea of all their potential anyway so maybe it wasn't needed
Title: Re: Swans Preseason 2015 thread
Post by: SydneyRox on March 15, 2015, 09:34:57 PM
still looked rusty as well, guys missed a lot of targets and dropped easy (ish) marks
Title: Re: Swans Preseason 2015 thread
Post by: Capper on March 16, 2015, 04:29:30 PM
Quote from: SydneyRox on March 15, 2015, 08:58:15 PM
Quote from: FactHunt on March 15, 2015, 07:57:37 PM
Anyone watch the game today guys? Im interested who looks to be settling into a rebounding def role with eski gone?

it is clearly jettas for now. took a number of the kick ins as well, but dont think he did one to himself which was one of eskis ways of racking up points.

rohan also played through the role.
if only we can get Shaw to stop doing this
Title: Re: Swans Preseason 2015 thread
Post by: SydneyRox on March 16, 2015, 04:42:56 PM
Quote from: tabs on March 16, 2015, 04:29:30 PM
Quote from: SydneyRox on March 15, 2015, 08:58:15 PM
Quote from: FactHunt on March 15, 2015, 07:57:37 PM
Anyone watch the game today guys? Im interested who looks to be settling into a rebounding def role with eski gone?

it is clearly jettas for now. took a number of the kick ins as well, but dont think he did one to himself which was one of eskis ways of racking up points.

rohan also played through the role.
if only we can get Shaw to stop doing this

LOL - swear he has himself in all fantasy games, not sure he ever takes a normal kickout!!
Title: Re: Swans Preseason 2015 thread
Post by: Capper on March 16, 2015, 04:46:14 PM
Quote from: SydneyRox on March 16, 2015, 04:42:56 PM
Quote from: tabs on March 16, 2015, 04:29:30 PM
Quote from: SydneyRox on March 15, 2015, 08:58:15 PM
Quote from: FactHunt on March 15, 2015, 07:57:37 PM
Anyone watch the game today guys? Im interested who looks to be settling into a rebounding def role with eski gone?

it is clearly jettas for now. took a number of the kick ins as well, but dont think he did one to himself which was one of eskis ways of racking up points.

rohan also played through the role.
if only we can get Shaw to stop doing this

LOL - swear he has himself in all fantasy games, not sure he ever takes a normal kickout!!
i hope he never takes a kick out again.

I dont know what is more nerv racking

Shaw taking a kick in or watching him run past and accept a HB off a player and run off
Title: Re: Swans Preseason 2015 thread
Post by: My Chumps on March 18, 2015, 12:00:46 PM
Quote from: Capper on March 16, 2015, 04:46:14 PM
Quote from: SydneyRox on March 16, 2015, 04:42:56 PM
Quote from: tabs on March 16, 2015, 04:29:30 PM
Quote from: SydneyRox on March 15, 2015, 08:58:15 PM
Quote from: FactHunt on March 15, 2015, 07:57:37 PM
Anyone watch the game today guys? Im interested who looks to be settling into a rebounding def role with eski gone?

it is clearly jettas for now. took a number of the kick ins as well, but dont think he did one to himself which was one of eskis ways of racking up points.

rohan also played through the role.
if only we can get Shaw to stop doing this

LOL - swear he has himself in all fantasy games, not sure he ever takes a normal kickout!!
i hope he never takes a kick out again.

I dont know what is more nerv racking

Shaw taking a kick in or watching him run past and accept a HB off a player and run off
And Hawthorn still tagged him in the 2012 GF  ;D
Title: Re: Swans Preseason 2015 thread
Post by: Capper on March 23, 2015, 05:15:17 PM
Towers and Heeney the standouts for Dew in PreSeason

http://www.sydneyswans.com.au/news/2015-03-23/towers-and-heeney-preseason-standouts
Title: Re: Swans Preseason 2015 thread
Post by: Capper on March 23, 2015, 05:16:38 PM
Macca, Buddy and KJack appear to be ok to play R1.

No word on McGlynn and Tippett though

http://www.sydneyswans.com.au/news/2015-03-23/stars-set-for-round-one
http://www.sydneyswans.com.au/news/2015-03-22/swans-stars-cleared-of-injury
Title: Re: Swans Preseason 2015 thread
Post by: Capper on March 23, 2015, 05:43:09 PM
BOOOOOM!!

Smashed the membership record

http://www.sydneyswans.com.au/news/2015-03-21/swans-break-membership-record
Title: Re: Swans Preseason 2015 thread
Post by: Capper on March 23, 2015, 05:48:13 PM
AJ to get his 4th reco in August if all goes well

QuoteA series of complications and infections, which will hopefully come to a head after  his fourth reconstruction scheduled for August, has seen Johnson experience adversity which no up-and-comer should ever experience.

http://www.sydneyswans.com.au/news/2015-03-19/mcveighs-hearfelt-message-to-aj
Title: Re: Swans Preseason 2015 thread
Post by: Capper on March 24, 2015, 03:33:00 PM
Will be a great swing man to have

http://www.sydneyswans.com.au/news/2015-03-24/reid-ready-to-learn-new-craft
Title: Re: Swans Preseason 2015 thread
Post by: SydneyRox on March 24, 2015, 06:03:44 PM
Quote from: Capper on March 24, 2015, 03:33:00 PM
Will be a great swing man to have

http://www.sydneyswans.com.au/news/2015-03-24/reid-ready-to-learn-new-craft

i think they need to let him settle in defence before the try to create a swingman, let him learn the ropes for a season at least.
Title: Re: Swans Preseason 2015 thread
Post by: Capper on March 25, 2015, 12:50:28 PM
ok round 1 team, who do we think will make it?
Title: Re: Swans Preseason 2015 thread
Post by: SydneyRox on March 25, 2015, 01:02:41 PM
Ok, here is a crack


Backs:      Rhyce Shaw, Ted Richards, Nick Smith
HBback:   Dane Rampe, Heath Grundy, Lewis Jetta
CTR:        Jarrod McVeigh, Kieren Jack, Daniel Hannebery
HFwd:     Craig Bird, Lance Franklin, Harry Cunningham
Fwd:       Adam Goodes, Kurt Tippett, Ben McGlynn
Foll:        Mike Pyke, Josh Kennedy, Luke Parker
Int:         Sam Reid, Gary Rohan, Isaac Heeney(S), Tom Mitchell

Wow, thats pretty hard. Couldnt find room for Towers, Lloyd, Bjack or a backup ruckman like Naismith/Nank.

So IMO the most at risk is Mitchell, and Towers might be the one to take his spot.

If McGlynn misses, Lloyd comes in.
If Tippett misses Towers or Naismith come in.



Title: Re: Swans Preseason 2015 thread
Post by: elephants on March 25, 2015, 01:05:04 PM
Lost a fair bit of confidence in Tom Mitchell :/ sitting at F4 in SC and AF
Title: Re: Swans Preseason 2015 thread
Post by: SydneyRox on March 25, 2015, 01:14:36 PM
Quote from: elephants on March 25, 2015, 01:05:04 PM
Lost a fair bit of confidence in Tom Mitchell :/ sitting at F4 in SC and AF

Vs GWS he got a lot of ball, but negatives include

Poor disposal
Started as SUB
Lack of speed
Started as SUB  :-X
Title: Re: Swans Preseason 2015 thread
Post by: elephants on March 25, 2015, 01:18:35 PM
Dammit Sydney just play the fker :(
Title: Re: Swans Preseason 2015 thread
Post by: Ricochet on March 25, 2015, 01:19:53 PM
Quote from: elephants on March 25, 2015, 01:18:35 PM
Dammit Sydney just play the fker :(
Title: Re: Swans Preseason 2015 thread
Post by: Capper on March 25, 2015, 02:19:39 PM
Quote from: SydneyRox on March 25, 2015, 01:02:41 PM
Ok, here is a crack


Backs:      Rhyce Shaw, Ted Richards, Nick Smith
HBback:   Dane Rampe, Heath Grundy, Lewis Jetta
CTR:        Jarrod McVeigh, Kieren Jack, Daniel Hannebery
HFwd:     Craig Bird, Lance Franklin, Harry Cunningham
Fwd:       Adam Goodes, Kurt Tippett, Ben McGlynn
Foll:        Mike Pyke, Josh Kennedy, Luke Parker
Int:         Sam Reid, Gary Rohan, Isaac Heeney(S), Tom Mitchell

Wow, thats pretty hard. Couldnt find room for Towers, Lloyd, Bjack or a backup ruckman like Naismith/Nank.

So IMO the most at risk is Mitchell, and Towers might be the one to take his spot.

If McGlynn misses, Lloyd comes in.
If Tippett misses Towers or Naismith come in.
here is my crack not too much difference

B: Rhyce Shaw, Ted Richards, Nicholas Smith
HB: Lewis Jetta, Heath Grundy, Dane Rampe
C: Daniel Hannebery, Jarrad McVeigh, Tom Mitchell 
HF: Ben McGlynn, Lance Franklin, Kieren Jack
F: Adam Goodes, Kurt Tippett, Craig Bird
Foll: Mike Pyke, Josh Kennedy, Luke Parker (c)
Int: Issac Heeney, Sam Reid, Jake Lloyd, Gary Rohan (s)

Wasnt sure whether to go Lloyd or Cunners. Towers and BJack unlucky.

Similar McGlynn misses Cunners comes in, Towers comes in for Tippett, XR or Laidler for Def.

I dont see Goodes playing all 22 so Towers will see some game time this year
Title: Re: Swans Preseason 2015 thread
Post by: My Chumps on March 26, 2015, 10:48:36 PM
Hopefully Reid really cements a spot in that back six this year otherwise we might be in a bit of strife.

Also reckon that McGlynn should go back to his forward role and only pinch hit in the mids. Rohan should play solely up front too. Too shaky down back to be a viable option.

I wish we didn't have to play Shaw. Hopefully Jetta really solidifies his spot back there and we can give him the flick.
Title: Re: Swans Preseason 2015 thread
Post by: SydneyRox on April 02, 2015, 07:51:16 PM
Quote from: SydneyRox on March 25, 2015, 01:02:41 PM
Ok, here is a crack


Backs:      Rhyce Shaw, Ted Richards, Nick Smith
HBback:   Dane Rampe, Heath Grundy, Lewis Jetta
CTR:        Jarrod McVeigh, Kieren Jack, Daniel Hannebery
HFwd:     Craig Bird, Lance Franklin, Harry Cunningham
Fwd:       Adam Goodes, Kurt Tippett, Ben McGlynn
Foll:        Mike Pyke, Josh Kennedy, Luke Parker
Int:         Sam Reid, Gary Rohan, Isaac Heeney(S), Tom Mitchell

Wow, thats pretty hard. Couldnt find room for Towers, Lloyd, Bjack or a backup ruckman like Naismith/Nank.

So IMO the most at risk is Mitchell, and Towers might be the one to take his spot.

If McGlynn misses, Lloyd comes in.
If Tippett misses Towers or Naismith come in.

This is how it landed.

B Rhyce Shaw, Heath Grundy, Nick Smith
HB Dane Rampe, Ted Richards, Gary Rohan
C Harry Cunningham, Josh P. Kennedy, Craig Bird
HF Kieren Jack, Sam Reid, Adam Goodes
F Isaac Heeney, Lance Franklin, Kurt Tippett
FOL Mike Pyke, Dan Hannebery, Luke Parker
I/C Jeremy Laidler, Lewis Jetta, Jake Lloyd, Dean Towers
EMG Tom Mitchell, Sam Naismith, Daniel Robinson

McVeigh and McGlynn out injured, Mitchell cant get a gig?? Robinson unlucky IMO to miss out to Lloyd
Title: Re: Swans Preseason 2015 thread
Post by: Mailman the 2nd on April 02, 2015, 07:55:21 PM
Towers and Laidler over Mitchell   :-X
Title: Re: Swans Preseason 2015 thread
Post by: Gigantor on April 02, 2015, 10:50:25 PM
Towers is a real surprise, a lot of talls. Buddy Tippet Reid Goode's Pyke
Title: Re: Swans Preseason 2015 thread
Post by: Capper on April 02, 2015, 11:36:17 PM
not really, coaches were talking him up in the preseason
Title: Re: Swans Preseason 2015 thread
Post by: SydneyRox on April 03, 2015, 01:02:56 AM
Quote from: Capper on April 02, 2015, 11:36:17 PM
not really, coaches were talking him up in the preseason

has looked very good.
Title: Re: Swans Preseason 2015 thread
Post by: elephants on April 03, 2015, 12:05:50 PM
Someone needs to go to jail for this discrimination of Tom Mitchell.
Title: Re: Swans Preseason 2015 thread
Post by: My Chumps on April 08, 2015, 03:47:49 PM
Quote from: elephants on April 03, 2015, 12:05:50 PM
Someone needs to go to jail for this discrimination of Tom Mitchell.