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Title: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Ricochet on September 01, 2014, 02:44:32 PM
Thought I'd start something up because a few have popped up today.

Interesting one about Paddy Ryder

Tom Browne ‏@TomBrowne7  16m
Just to reiterate, as I reported on #7NewsMelb last night, Paddy Ryder wants a trade to @brisbanelions . Shapes as significant trade story
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Nige on September 01, 2014, 02:48:20 PM
He wants one?  :o

That's huge...
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: RaisyDaisy on September 01, 2014, 03:05:53 PM
That seems so randon and weird  :o

With Leuy, Martin and West already, it sounds even more odd... Gold Coast on the other hand could use him!
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: GoLions on September 01, 2014, 03:07:21 PM
Wow, really? He'd be 3rd ruck at best.

Polkinghorne (delisted) wants to go back to Victoria apparently, wonder if anyone will actually take him haha
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Ricochet on September 01, 2014, 03:09:15 PM
They'd play him up fwd I would assume
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: GoLions on September 01, 2014, 03:11:44 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on September 01, 2014, 03:09:15 PM
They'd play him up fwd I would assume
Yeah but considering we're rebuilding, we're gonna want to get as many games into guys like McStay, Freeman, Close, and Paine as we can. Getting Ryder would just delay the development of at least 1 of those guys.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Ricochet on September 01, 2014, 03:16:10 PM
Quote from: GoLions16 on September 01, 2014, 03:11:44 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on September 01, 2014, 03:09:15 PM
They'd play him up fwd I would assume
Yeah but considering we're rebuilding, we're gonna want to get as many games into guys like McStay, Freeman, Close, and Paine as we can. Getting Ryder would just delay the development of at least 1 of those guys.
Ryder's only 26 though man. About to hit his prime and will help some of these young boys out. I would imagine you'd have to give up a decent starter to get him though. Its a strange rumour
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: SydneyRox on September 01, 2014, 03:38:39 PM
Very strange. Including why would Ryder want to go to QLD?
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Jroo on September 01, 2014, 03:40:01 PM
Ryder is gun, would be a good get for the Lions even though they don't need him.
Berger in the ruck, Paddy up forward and Martin in the midfield  :o
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Ringo on September 01, 2014, 03:54:41 PM
Reckon Ryder to Brisbane is strange.  Maybe if being used forward to assist development of youngsters would be good as McGuance appears to be a fail.. Would allow Sauce to return to defence.

Is this a reason why Lisle was delisted.

This may be a sound forward line going forward:
Green, Freeman/McStay, Ryder
Zorko, Resting Ruck, Staker
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Mailman the 2nd on September 01, 2014, 04:36:39 PM
Ryder is a very strong ruckman. Easily would fit into the starting 22 of any club
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: nrich102 on September 01, 2014, 05:22:49 PM
Lol...
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Purple 77 on September 01, 2014, 05:44:17 PM
I wonder if Brisbane are willing to take his baggage (ASADA stuff)?
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Ringo on September 01, 2014, 07:59:37 PM
Nailed it money and if Brisbane pay overs eg Fevola I will tear my membership up this time. fair enough we have room under our Salary cap with retirements and only paying 95% for the last couple of years but we should be spending it shoring up youngsters as well.  Aish should be the No 1 priority now. 
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Toga on September 01, 2014, 08:37:31 PM
Certainly an interesting one, not sure whether he'd be a good fit for the team though ???
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Nige on September 02, 2014, 10:23:46 AM
Not a trade rumour but...

BREAKING

3AW are reporting that a Melbourne-based AFL star is set to retire after having "one last falling out" with his coach.

They have confirmed that the player is NOT from Collingwood nor Essendon.

Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: GoLions on September 02, 2014, 10:27:15 AM
Was gonna say, been hearing it's Swan, but didn't think he'd retire so thought it must be someone older and they had it wrong
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Spite on September 02, 2014, 10:29:00 AM
Would have guessed Harry Lumumba but glad to hear that's not the case!
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Ricochet on September 02, 2014, 10:34:05 AM
McLean? Or Yaz?
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: GoLions on September 02, 2014, 10:38:49 AM
Quote from: Ricochet on September 02, 2014, 10:34:05 AM
McLean? Or Yaz?
It said "star"
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Ricochet on September 02, 2014, 10:39:33 AM
Quote from: GoLions16 on September 02, 2014, 10:38:49 AM
Quote from: Ricochet on September 02, 2014, 10:34:05 AM
McLean? Or Yaz?
It said "star"
As you would know GL, the standards are lower in Melbourne ;) :P
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: GoLions on September 02, 2014, 10:41:11 AM
Quote from: Ricochet on September 02, 2014, 10:39:33 AM
Quote from: GoLions16 on September 02, 2014, 10:38:49 AM
Quote from: Ricochet on September 02, 2014, 10:34:05 AM
McLean? Or Yaz?
It said "star"
As you would know GL, the standards are lower in Melbourne ;) :P
Yeah, and a lot higher up north!
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Mailman the 2nd on September 02, 2014, 10:44:17 AM
Quote from: GoLions16 on September 02, 2014, 10:41:11 AM
Quote from: Ricochet on September 02, 2014, 10:39:33 AM
Quote from: GoLions16 on September 02, 2014, 10:38:49 AM
Quote from: Ricochet on September 02, 2014, 10:34:05 AM
McLean? Or Yaz?
It said "star"
As you would know GL, the standards are lower in Melbourne ;) :P
Yeah, and a lot higher up north!

That's why they're signing McGuane on a 10 year deal
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Jay on September 02, 2014, 10:46:04 AM
Quote from: Ricochet on September 02, 2014, 10:34:05 AM
McLean? Or Yaz?
Robbo?
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: GoLions on September 02, 2014, 10:46:34 AM
Quote from: Mailman the 2nd on September 02, 2014, 10:44:17 AM
Quote from: GoLions16 on September 02, 2014, 10:41:11 AM
Quote from: Ricochet on September 02, 2014, 10:39:33 AM
Quote from: GoLions16 on September 02, 2014, 10:38:49 AM
Quote from: Ricochet on September 02, 2014, 10:34:05 AM
McLean? Or Yaz?
It said "star"
As you would know GL, the standards are lower in Melbourne ;) :P
Yeah, and a lot higher up north!

That's why they're signing McGuane on a 10 year deal
McGuane will be McGone once his contract runs out
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Ricochet on September 02, 2014, 10:47:50 AM
Quote from: Jayman on September 02, 2014, 10:46:04 AM
Quote from: Ricochet on September 02, 2014, 10:34:05 AM
McLean? Or Yaz?
Robbo?
Yeh thats a good one. Thinking these 3 could just get a trade though. Must be someone older if they have retired. Thought Waite initially but he had interest from other clubs?
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Jay on September 02, 2014, 10:50:09 AM
Quote from: Ricochet on September 02, 2014, 10:47:50 AM
Quote from: Jayman on September 02, 2014, 10:46:04 AM
Quote from: Ricochet on September 02, 2014, 10:34:05 AM
McLean? Or Yaz?
Robbo?
Yeh thats a good one. Thinking these 3 could just get a trade though. Must be someone older if they have retired. Thought Waite initially but he had interest from other clubs?
Robbo seems like a major loose cannon, maybe he just can't be flowered with footy anymore. Wouldn't surprise me tbh.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: GoLions on September 02, 2014, 10:55:39 AM
Quote from: Jayman on September 02, 2014, 10:50:09 AM
Quote from: Ricochet on September 02, 2014, 10:47:50 AM
Quote from: Jayman on September 02, 2014, 10:46:04 AM
Quote from: Ricochet on September 02, 2014, 10:34:05 AM
McLean? Or Yaz?
Robbo?
Yeh thats a good one. Thinking these 3 could just get a trade though. Must be someone older if they have retired. Thought Waite initially but he had interest from other clubs?
Robbo seems like a major loose cannon, maybe he just can't be flowered with footy anymore. Wouldn't surprise me tbh.
He actually seemed like a decent bloke in an AMA he did a while back

flowering hate him out on the field though haha
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: JBs-Hawks on September 02, 2014, 11:27:38 AM
Ceeya later Juddy!
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Ricochet on September 02, 2014, 11:53:53 AM
Spite suggested Sewell
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Nige on September 02, 2014, 12:01:30 PM
Sewell would make sense.

I can't think of too many others that it could realistically be.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Spite on September 02, 2014, 12:29:46 PM
Quote from: ///////////////////////// on September 02, 2014, 12:11:58 PM
Dogs going hard at Casboult and Bellchambers. Open to trading Minson.

Higgins to Carlton is as good as done.

Would be great for bulldogs. Hope it works out.

Would leave essendon a little short with no belly or Ryder though
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Mailman the 2nd on September 02, 2014, 01:11:41 PM
Don't think essendon would let both go.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: kilbluff1985 on September 02, 2014, 01:20:40 PM
i can see us trading Belly but not Ryder

Minson could be an interesting get as he could ruck and Ryder could play forward
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Ricochet on September 02, 2014, 01:22:34 PM
Belly to Bulldogs, Minson to Essendon seems reasonable
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Nige on September 02, 2014, 01:27:26 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on September 02, 2014, 01:22:34 PM
Belly to Bulldogs, Minson to Essendon seems reasonable
Yeah, I reckon it's a good trade for both sides.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Ricochet on September 02, 2014, 01:36:42 PM
Rohan CT ‏@RohanCT  2m
Carlton offering Higgins $525 k per year to ward off other suitors. All Free Agency is achieving is inflating avg. players contracts.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: SydneyRox on September 02, 2014, 01:38:41 PM
Thats exactly why the AFLPA wanted it in!

Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: kilbluff1985 on September 02, 2014, 01:39:02 PM
Mat will not be happy lol
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Nige on September 02, 2014, 01:41:18 PM
I wonder if Higgins to Carlton will be Daisy all over again.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Mailman the 2nd on September 02, 2014, 01:49:40 PM
Such a bad move by Carlton if it actually happens.

Quote from: Ricochet on September 02, 2014, 01:36:42 PM
Rohan CT ‏@RohanCT  2m
Carlton offering Higgins $525 k per year to ward off other suitors. All Free Agency is achieving is inflating avg. players contracts.
Quote from: SydneyRox on September 02, 2014, 01:38:41 PM
Thats exactly why the AFLPA wanted it in!

Pretty much all it was ever going to achieve
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: RaisyDaisy on September 02, 2014, 02:16:51 PM
525k for Higgins

Unbelievable  :o

He is worth 300-350k MAX

Would have to have a clause in it re his injury history - needs to play X amount of games
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Ricochet on September 02, 2014, 02:26:33 PM
Don't think he'd have a injury clause RD. He's only had one season in the last 6 years where he's missed a bucketload of games

Agree he's not worth 500k tho
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: SydneyRox on September 02, 2014, 02:29:22 PM
that is almost irresponsible by carlton. after daisy's lukewarm first season on big $$
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Ziplock on September 02, 2014, 04:16:12 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on September 02, 2014, 10:47:50 AM
Quote from: Jayman on September 02, 2014, 10:46:04 AM
Quote from: Ricochet on September 02, 2014, 10:34:05 AM
McLean? Or Yaz?
Robbo?
Yeh thats a good one. Thinking these 3 could just get a trade though. Must be someone older if they have retired. Thought Waite initially but he had interest from other clubs?

Yeah, I'd guess robbo.

Quote from: NigeyS on September 02, 2014, 01:27:26 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on September 02, 2014, 01:22:34 PM
Belly to Bulldogs, Minson to Essendon seems reasonable
Yeah, I reckon it's a good trade for both sides.

Win-Win really.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Nige on September 02, 2014, 04:31:42 PM
Quote from: ///////////////////////// on September 02, 2014, 04:25:29 PM
Quote from: NigeyS on September 02, 2014, 10:23:46 AM
Not a trade rumour but...

BREAKING

3AW are reporting that a Melbourne-based AFL star is set to retire after having "one last falling out" with his coach.

They have confirmed that the player is NOT from Collingwood nor Essendon.

Boyd
That... would make sense.  :o
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: RaisyDaisy on September 02, 2014, 04:53:35 PM
Quote from: ///////////////////////// on September 02, 2014, 04:25:29 PM
Quote from: NigeyS on September 02, 2014, 10:23:46 AM
Not a trade rumour but...

BREAKING

3AW are reporting that a Melbourne-based AFL star is set to retire after having "one last falling out" with his coach.

They have confirmed that the player is NOT from Collingwood nor Essendon.

Boyd

Good call

Hasnt been offered a new contract last I heard too
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Toga on September 02, 2014, 05:39:44 PM
525K for Higgins? Wow
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Mr.Craig on September 02, 2014, 09:17:18 PM
Carlton, always good for a giggle.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: nrich102 on September 03, 2014, 07:21:16 AM
http://m.afl.com.au/news/2014-09-02/mitch-is-trade-bait (http://m.afl.com.au/news/2014-09-02/mitch-is-trade-bait)

:o
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: DazBurg on September 03, 2014, 07:37:11 AM
not sure if this is true or BS
but read somewhere that apparently Ryder's GF lives in QLD

again not sure if true or not
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Nige on September 03, 2014, 09:19:42 AM
Not sure if any of these have been said before but...

Dogs interested in Levi Casboult, Sam Reid and Tim Membrey

Port interested in Luke Lowden.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Mailman the 2nd on September 03, 2014, 09:39:56 AM
Dont think the bulldogs would have any players to offer Sydney
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: SydneyRox on September 03, 2014, 10:58:24 AM
Quote from: Mailman the 2nd on September 03, 2014, 09:39:56 AM
Dont think the bulldogs would have any players to offer Sydney

they can have Reid and membrey for Bont  8)
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: ADEZ on September 03, 2014, 02:43:42 PM
2014 AFL Offseason ‏@theafloffseason  1m
Luke Lowden has told the Hawthorn Football Club that he will be heading to Port Adelaide to further his opportunities in 2015. The out of contract 24 year old, who has played just one game for the Hawks will sign with Port as a delisted free agent, on a two-year deal. The AFL Free Agency period begins in 25 days.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Mr.Craig on September 03, 2014, 02:49:28 PM
Unfortunately I had a feeling that would happen. Port will probably try to return Renouf to us.  :P
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: nrich102 on September 03, 2014, 08:17:11 PM
Talk that we're going to sell Merrett :o wat?
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Ringo on September 03, 2014, 08:19:40 PM
Merrett for Ryder  ;)

Seriously though have heard the rumour but nothing confirmed.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Mailman the 2nd on September 03, 2014, 08:20:21 PM
Wouldn't be suprised if it was because he almost decapitated 2 people on the field
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: kilbluff1985 on September 03, 2014, 09:15:46 PM
Quote from: Ringo on September 03, 2014, 08:19:40 PM
Merrett for Ryder  ;)

Seriously though have heard the rumour but nothing confirmed.

No just no
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Ricochet on September 04, 2014, 12:13:14 AM
It would allow Carlisle to play up fwd
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: kilbluff1985 on September 04, 2014, 06:48:15 AM
Quote from: Ricochet on September 04, 2014, 12:13:14 AM
It would allow Carlisle to play up fwd

For what a year? The guys like 31 next i would rather be getting games into Steinberg or Pears
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: DazBurg on September 04, 2014, 07:08:03 AM
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on September 04, 2014, 06:48:15 AM
Quote from: Ricochet on September 04, 2014, 12:13:14 AM
It would allow Carlisle to play up fwd

For what a year? The guys like 31 next i would rather be getting games into Steinberg or Pears
this
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Ricochet on September 04, 2014, 08:48:19 AM
You never know he might do a Fletch ;)
Woulda thought that if Sauce did come down it would be a 2-3yr deal
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: kilbluff1985 on September 04, 2014, 08:51:10 AM
Quote from: Ricochet on September 04, 2014, 08:48:19 AM
You never know he might do a Fletch ;)
Woulda thought that if Sauce did come down it would be a 2-3yr deal

puhlease there is only one Fletch
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Ricochet on September 04, 2014, 10:05:04 AM
From the AFL Trade Rumours, Draft & Offseason News facebook page


Patrick Ryder and his management are believed to believed looking into a clause in his contract that good see him walk out on the Bombers as an Delisted Free Agent at the end of the year.

Ryder signed a 4 year deal at the start of the 2012 season and is currently contracted to Essendon until the end of 2016 but could leave the club due to a breach of his duty of care during the supplements scandal of 2011 and 2012.

With a number of clubs looking for a player of Ryder's capabilities he is expected field plenty of big offers.

If this was to happen the Bombers would not receive any compensation due a new rule which was pushed by the AFLPA which was introduced due to the Bombers scandal.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Nige on September 04, 2014, 10:44:29 AM
This is turning out to be a better story than the Frawley one.  :o :P
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Mailman the 2nd on September 04, 2014, 10:49:52 AM
Brisbane pretty much get him for free. Although if I was freo id ne offering him a good deal
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Toga on September 04, 2014, 11:05:05 AM
Does he suit the needs of Brisbane or GWS though? :-X
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Ricochet on September 04, 2014, 11:06:27 AM
Quote from: Mailman the 2nd on September 04, 2014, 10:49:52 AM
Brisbane pretty much get him for free. Although if I was freo id ne offering him a good deal
Yes please.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: RaisyDaisy on September 04, 2014, 11:48:30 AM
Made its way onto afl.com.au

http://www.afl.com.au/news/2014-09-04/ryder-headed-for-storm

Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Mr.Craig on September 04, 2014, 12:18:24 PM
Already shaping as an interesting trade period.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Ricochet on September 04, 2014, 12:34:15 PM
Also saw talk that the Ryder rumours are just keeping the attention away from Carlisle's future at the Bombers
No idea on his contract status though
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: shaker on September 04, 2014, 12:42:28 PM
With Ryder looking like bailing out of the Bombers is this the start of players who will sue the club ?
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Ricochet on September 04, 2014, 02:03:49 PM
http://www.theage.com.au/afl/afl-news/brisbane-lions-may-offer-secondround-pick-for-essendons-paddy-ryder-20140904-10cc1x.html

Essendon became aware it had a genuine problem with Paddy Ryder some weeks ago, but Ryder's problem with the club began, in truth, in the first half of last year.

That was when the star ruckman and his pregnant fiancee Jessica McDonald became increasingly alarmed at the health risks posed by the 2011-2012 Bombers' drugs program. Ryder's interview with officials from the Australian Sports Anti-Doping Agency and the AFL did nothing to alleviate the couple's fears.

Small grievances between the Ryder family and the club followed, the Essendon players received show-cause letters from ASADA and the Bombers agreed its players and their families would be subject to annual health checks as a result of the program that has brought shame upon the club.

Should Ryder walk, both his management and his preferred club, the Brisbane Lions, seem prepared to deal with the Bombers through a compromise trade that would see the Lions sacrifice a second-round pick - around No. 20 - to gain the services of the talented player who is worth significantly more on the open market.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: jvalles69 on September 04, 2014, 02:33:16 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on September 04, 2014, 02:03:49 PM
http://www.theage.com.au/afl/afl-news/brisbane-lions-may-offer-secondround-pick-for-essendons-paddy-ryder-20140904-10cc1x.html

Essendon became aware it had a genuine problem with Paddy Ryder some weeks ago, but Ryder's problem with the club began, in truth, in the first half of last year.

That was when the star ruckman and his pregnant fiancee Jessica McDonald became increasingly alarmed at the health risks posed by the 2011-2012 Bombers' drugs program. Ryder's interview with officials from the Australian Sports Anti-Doping Agency and the AFL did nothing to alleviate the couple's fears.

Small grievances between the Ryder family and the club followed, the Essendon players received show-cause letters from ASADA and the Bombers agreed its players and their families would be subject to annual health checks as a result of the program that has brought shame upon the club.

Should Ryder walk, both his management and his preferred club, the Brisbane Lions, seem prepared to deal with the Bombers through a compromise trade that would see the Lions sacrifice a second-round pick - around No. 20 - to gain the services of the talented player who is worth significantly more on the open market.

Bombers deserve sweet FA!
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Ringo on September 04, 2014, 03:03:24 PM
Quote from: Toga on September 04, 2014, 11:05:05 AM
Does he suit the needs of Brisbane or GWS though? :-X
Honest assessment for Brisbane Togs. Unless Brisbane want to get rid of one of Berger or Martin (who has just signed a new contract for 2 years) can not see him coming.  Do not see him being able to hold down a Key Forward position. He is a definite RF and if it means losing one of Berger or Martin I think there would be a riot among members who are just getting over the Fevola Debacle with Bradshaw and Rischa.
may be wrong on the key forward but that is my opinion. Interesting though Dempsey still gets a mention in some rumours linking to Brisbane and we know how he is friends with Ryder.
Personally I think we will probably be keeping our powder dry this year to make the gig play for Beams next year.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: jvalles69 on September 04, 2014, 03:22:03 PM
Quote from: Ringo on September 04, 2014, 03:03:24 PM
Quote from: Toga on September 04, 2014, 11:05:05 AM
Does he suit the needs of Brisbane or GWS though? :-X
Honest assessment for Brisbane Togs. Unless Brisbane want to get rid of one of Berger or Martin (who has just signed a new contract for 2 years) can not see him coming.  Do not see him being able to hold down a Key Forward position. He is a definite RF and if it means losing one of Berger or Martin I think there would be a riot among members who are just getting over the Fevola Debacle with Bradshaw and Rischa.
may be wrong on the key forward but that is my opinion. Interesting though Dempsey still gets a mention in some rumours linking to Brisbane and we know how he is friends with Ryder.
Personally I think we will probably be keeping our powder dry this year to make the gig play for Beams next year.

Could Martin play that role similar to Darling?  Up forward as the link up player, pushing into midfield?
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Bill Manspeaker on September 04, 2014, 03:37:18 PM
Quote from: jvalles69 on September 04, 2014, 02:33:16 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on September 04, 2014, 02:03:49 PM
http://www.theage.com.au/afl/afl-news/brisbane-lions-may-offer-secondround-pick-for-essendons-paddy-ryder-20140904-10cc1x.html

Essendon became aware it had a genuine problem with Paddy Ryder some weeks ago, but Ryder's problem with the club began, in truth, in the first half of last year.

That was when the star ruckman and his pregnant fiancee Jessica McDonald became increasingly alarmed at the health risks posed by the 2011-2012 Bombers' drugs program. Ryder's interview with officials from the Australian Sports Anti-Doping Agency and the AFL did nothing to alleviate the couple's fears.

Small grievances between the Ryder family and the club followed, the Essendon players received show-cause letters from ASADA and the Bombers agreed its players and their families would be subject to annual health checks as a result of the program that has brought shame upon the club.

Should Ryder walk, both his management and his preferred club, the Brisbane Lions, seem prepared to deal with the Bombers through a compromise trade that would see the Lions sacrifice a second-round pick - around No. 20 - to gain the services of the talented player who is worth significantly more on the open market.

Bombers deserve sweet FA!

yep, pretty much. I thought they weren't getting any compensation?
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: RaisyDaisy on September 04, 2014, 03:55:38 PM
Burger and Ryder to ruck/fwd and as for Martin, the guy is the ultimate utility and can play anywhere

Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Ricochet on September 04, 2014, 04:47:11 PM
Casboult has re-signed with Carlton ending that rumour
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: RaisyDaisy on September 04, 2014, 04:48:12 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on September 04, 2014, 04:47:11 PM
Casboult has re-signed with Carlton ending that rumour

Now he just needs to learn how to kick and he could be anything

Near on best set of dukes in the caper at the moment
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Big Mac on September 04, 2014, 06:08:38 PM
Frost has requested a trade to a Vic club. Would be a great pick up
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Jroo on September 04, 2014, 06:10:37 PM
Quote from: Big  Mac on September 04, 2014, 06:08:38 PM
Frost has requested a trade to a Vic club. Would be a great pick up
Kristian Jaksch has too.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Jroo on September 04, 2014, 06:12:58 PM
Along with Ryder, Carlisle might go too
http://www.triplem.com.au/adelaide/sport/afl/news/2014/9/essendons-paddy-ryder-and-jake-carlisle-rumoured-to-be-looking-to-please-guilty-an-move-on/
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: JBs-Hawks on September 04, 2014, 06:14:31 PM
Carlisle to the Hawks. I like :)
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Mailman the 2nd on September 04, 2014, 06:15:56 PM
I'm 200% sure Carlisle wants to live in Bondi for the rest of his career
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: RaisyDaisy on September 04, 2014, 08:49:55 PM
Rumour on League Teams that Port have offered Tex Walker 1M to switch to them  :o
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: RaisyDaisy on September 04, 2014, 08:55:20 PM
Damian Barrett reporting that Harry O has played his last game for Collingwood

Sounds like Harry is extremely overly sensitive about off field stuff
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Ricochet on September 04, 2014, 08:55:53 PM
Carlton going very hard after Tom Mitchell but his manager has said he's not going anywhere
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: SydneyRox on September 04, 2014, 09:57:41 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on September 04, 2014, 08:55:53 PM
Carlton going very hard after Tom Mitchell but his manager has said he's not going anywhere

Carlton have zero to offer the swans.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Samsturmfels on September 04, 2014, 11:12:34 PM
Quote from: Big  Mac on September 04, 2014, 06:08:38 PM
Frost has requested a trade to a Vic club. Would be a great pick up
To the Pies?
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Bill Manspeaker on September 04, 2014, 11:53:09 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on September 04, 2014, 08:55:20 PM
Damian Barrett reporting that Harry O has played his last game for Collingwood

Sounds like Harry is extremely overly sensitive about off field stuff everything

Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: SydneyRox on September 04, 2014, 11:59:04 PM
yeah, sounds like harry is done at the pies
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Capper on September 05, 2014, 12:03:06 AM
I have heard that Merritt wants out of Lions as it looks like the Ryder deal will go through and he will play down back next year, which is what he doesnt want to do
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Mat0369 on September 05, 2014, 12:18:08 AM
I just saw this thread

Quote from: kilbluff1985 on September 02, 2014, 01:39:02 PM
Mat will not be happy lol

Damn right I am not happy. What a f'ing joke

Quote from: tabs on September 05, 2014, 12:03:06 AM
I have heard that Merritt wants out of Lions as it looks like the Ryder deal will go through and he will play down back next year, which is what he doesnt want to do

They had it on 360 tonight.


Also on the Ryder thing, whenever I watched Essendon play this year he looked like their most dangerous forward and their most dangerous ruck. He could play as a permanent forward at Brisbane which is what they might want to do. It would be a great signing.

Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Ricochet on September 05, 2014, 01:47:19 PM
Lumumba to Melb?
Apparently Roos is a big fan and Dawes is one of his best mates.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Mat0369 on September 05, 2014, 02:01:01 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on September 02, 2014, 01:36:42 PM
Rohan CT ‏@RohanCT  2m
Carlton offering Higgins $525 k per year to ward off other suitors. All Free Agency is achieving is inflating avg. players contracts.


After looking at this again, who the hell is RohanCT?
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Mailman the 2nd on September 05, 2014, 02:21:21 PM
No one
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: GoLions on September 05, 2014, 03:41:56 PM
Quote from: tabs on September 05, 2014, 12:03:06 AM
I have heard that Merritt wants out of Lions as it looks like the Ryder deal will go through and he will play down back next year, which is what he doesnt want to do
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2014-09-05/key-lion-going-nowhere
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Mat0369 on September 05, 2014, 03:48:33 PM
Quote from: Mailman the 2nd on September 05, 2014, 02:21:21 PM
No one

This is what pisses me off at this time of the year, douches with no credibility making crap up and trying to pass it off as legit.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Ricochet on September 05, 2014, 04:00:46 PM
Quote from: Mat0369 on September 05, 2014, 02:01:01 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on September 02, 2014, 01:36:42 PM
Rohan CT ‏@RohanCT  2m
Carlton offering Higgins $525 k per year to ward off other suitors. All Free Agency is achieving is inflating avg. players contracts.


After looking at this again, who the hell is RohanCT?
Not exactly sure where he's employed but he breaks news across twitter and posts pretty informed opinions about footy. Also good for some banter as well and seems like a decent bloke
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Purple 77 on September 05, 2014, 04:36:42 PM
If Lumumba came cheap, I wouldn't be opposed to him coming to melbourne.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: _wato on September 05, 2014, 05:35:52 PM
Quote from: Purple 77 on September 05, 2014, 04:36:42 PM
If Lumumba came cheap, I wouldn't be opposed to him coming to melbourne.

Watts or Frawley in return?
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: kilbluff1985 on September 05, 2014, 05:40:27 PM
Lamumba + NAT Pick 8

for

NAT Pick 2

lock it in Eddie
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Purple 77 on September 05, 2014, 05:58:08 PM
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on September 05, 2014, 05:40:27 PM
Lamumba + NAT Pick 8

for

NAT Pick 2

lock it in Eddie

Oh, god I hope not.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Mat0369 on September 05, 2014, 06:10:13 PM
Quote from: Purple 77 on September 05, 2014, 05:58:08 PM
Oh, god I hope not.

If it makes you feel better, I have this really bad feeling we are going to go after him to add to the band of overrated rejects that we are going to pay way to much for
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Capper on September 05, 2014, 06:19:47 PM
Quote from: Mat0369 on September 05, 2014, 06:10:13 PM
Quote from: Purple 77 on September 05, 2014, 05:58:08 PM
Oh, god I hope not.

If it makes you feel better, I have this really bad feeling we are going to go after him to add to the band of overrated rejects that we are going to pay way to much for
One of mick's boys like Daisy. No doubt Mick will look at him
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Mat0369 on September 05, 2014, 06:28:13 PM
Quote from: tabs on September 05, 2014, 06:19:47 PM
One of mick's boys like Daisy. No doubt Mick will look at him

If we sign him it will be beyond dumb.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Mailman the 2nd on September 05, 2014, 06:39:01 PM
Yeah Carlton's list is fill to the brim with Shaun Higgin's type already. Would be a huge mistake
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Spite on September 05, 2014, 07:02:17 PM
Quote from: Purple 77 on September 05, 2014, 05:58:08 PM
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on September 05, 2014, 05:40:27 PM
Lamumba + NAT Pick 8

for

NAT Pick 2

lock it in Eddie

Oh, god I hope not.

We have Darcy Moore waiting as a f/s pick so I don't think that will happen.

Unless the rules states that we can do that and select Darcy as a second round pick but I'm pretty sure that's not allowed because f/a bidding happens at the beginning of the trade period and the pick is then locked out.

Lumumba for O'rourke or for watts, would be happy with either honestly
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: henry on September 06, 2014, 12:31:04 PM
Quote from: Spite on September 05, 2014, 07:02:17 PM
Quote from: Purple 77 on September 05, 2014, 05:58:08 PM
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on September 05, 2014, 05:40:27 PM
Lamumba + NAT Pick 8

for

NAT Pick 2

lock it in Eddie

Oh, god I hope not.

We have Darcy Moore waiting as a f/s pick so I don't think that will happen.

Unless the rules states that we can do that and select Darcy as a second round pick but I'm pretty sure that's not allowed because f/a bidding happens at the beginning of the trade period and the pick is then locked out.

Lumumba for O'rourke or for watts, would be happy with either honestly
After investing so much in him not sure the Dees would be willing to let Watts go when maybe he's starting to hit his peak.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Big Mac on September 06, 2014, 02:32:19 PM
Yeh there's no chance Watts is going for Lumumba. Would probably offer our third rounder for him
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Samsturmfels on September 06, 2014, 09:16:37 PM
Adelaide have delisted McKernan and Graham.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Jay on September 07, 2014, 11:35:42 AM
Quote from: Samsturmfels on September 06, 2014, 09:16:37 PM
Adelaide have delisted McKernan and Graham.

Good riddance
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Nige on September 07, 2014, 11:53:31 AM
Rumours Carlton may be interested in McKernan.

Lions are making a play for Dayne Beams.

Lumumba's as good as gone from the Pies, Dees leading the race.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Big Mac on September 07, 2014, 11:55:20 AM
Quote from: NigeyS on September 07, 2014, 11:53:31 AM
Rumours Carlton may be interested in McKernan.

Lions are making a play for Dayne Beams.

Lumumba's as good as gone from the Pies, Dees leading the race.

Carlton seem to be interested in everyone
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Nige on September 07, 2014, 11:56:39 AM
Quote from: Big  Mac on September 07, 2014, 11:55:20 AM
Quote from: NigeyS on September 07, 2014, 11:53:31 AM
Rumours Carlton may be interested in McKernan.

Lions are making a play for Dayne Beams.

Lumumba's as good as gone from the Pies, Dees leading the race.

Carlton seem to be interested in everyone
They probably would even look at Angus Graham.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: nrich102 on September 07, 2014, 12:55:50 PM
Carlton could look at the great man himself :o Sam Michael!!


Quote from: NigeyS on September 07, 2014, 11:53:31 AM
Rumours Carlton may be interested in McKernan.

Lions are making a play for Dayne Beams.

Lumumba's as good as gone from the Pies, Dees leading the race.
Would like to see Beams come up here, but it could possibly spell the end for Claye, Crisp and other fringe midfielders at the lions
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Jay on September 07, 2014, 01:09:55 PM
Quote from: nrich102 on September 07, 2014, 12:55:50 PM
Carlton could look at the great man himself :o Sam Michael!!


Quote from: NigeyS on September 07, 2014, 11:53:31 AM
Rumours Carlton may be interested in McKernan.

Lions are making a play for Dayne Beams.

Lumumba's as good as gone from the Pies, Dees leading the race.
Would like to see Beams come up here, but it could possibly spell the end for Claye, Crisp and other fringe midfielders at the lions
I wouldn't give a flower about those boys if it means you got Beams ;)
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: nrich102 on September 07, 2014, 01:10:36 PM
Quote from: Jayman on September 07, 2014, 01:09:55 PM
Quote from: nrich102 on September 07, 2014, 12:55:50 PM
Carlton could look at the great man himself :o Sam Michael!!


Quote from: NigeyS on September 07, 2014, 11:53:31 AM
Rumours Carlton may be interested in McKernan.

Lions are making a play for Dayne Beams.

Lumumba's as good as gone from the Pies, Dees leading the race.
Would like to see Beams come up here, but it could possibly spell the end for Claye, Crisp and other fringe midfielders at the lions
I wouldn't give a flower about those boys if it means you got Beams ;)
true dat
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: JBs-Hawks on September 07, 2014, 02:19:35 PM
Doubt it would spell the end for claye seeing he would be the main reason you get dayne
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Ringo on September 07, 2014, 03:03:48 PM
Do not think Brisbane will make a play for Dayne Beams this year. Next year for sure - Would allow the likes of Aish, Robbo, mayes to gel more together with Rich and Redden who had injury interruptions and imo Window does not open until 2016 when Beams would be a welcome addition.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Samsturmfels on September 07, 2014, 07:44:02 PM
Rumour, that Mitch Clark will be returning next year (not to Melbourne though), Clark to the Pies?
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Nige on September 07, 2014, 08:19:04 PM
Jon Ralph has said Mitch Clark will return to football in 2015 but it will not be with the Demons.

According to Jon Ralph Clark feels a move to a successful club will be best for him, Clark's partner is doing a course in Melbourne so he will not be leaving Victoria.

He is on Melbourne's list until the 31st of October so Melbourne does have the right to trade him.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Big Mac on September 07, 2014, 08:20:58 PM
Won't comment until I hear something from Mitch himself
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: elephants on September 07, 2014, 11:00:49 PM
Quote from: ///////////////////////// on September 07, 2014, 07:07:09 PM
Liam Jones has rejected the contract offer that WB have put in front of him and wants to see what offers come his way during the trade period.

Out of contract players:

Gia (Retired)
Tom Williams (Retired)
Brett Goodes
Christian Howard
Easton Wood
Liam Jones
Jason Tutt
Daniel Pearce
Tom Young
Shaun Higgins - Restricted Free Agent
Lin Jong (R)
Mark Austin (R)
Jack Redpath (R)
Alex Greenwood (R)

Holy flower that's a lot of out of contract players. Easton Wood head and shoulders above those mentioned.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Master Q on September 07, 2014, 11:15:27 PM
Quote from: Big  Mac on September 07, 2014, 08:20:58 PM
Won't comment until I hear something from Mitch himself
Poor form if he doesn't stay with Melbourne IMO.

I mean one of the main reasons he retired was that he was guilty about being paid so much yet hardly playing... could always just come back to Melbourne and pay them back via loyalty  :-X
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Mailman the 2nd on September 08, 2014, 12:13:26 AM
Melbourne could well be one of the reasons why he wanted to quit in the first place.

Not referring to the club performing badly, but it could've been factors like location,schedule, all his injuries etc.

If he needs a fresh start then that's what he should go for, he certainly won't be paid as much though
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Capper on September 08, 2014, 12:17:23 AM
Quote from: Master Q on September 07, 2014, 11:15:27 PM
Quote from: Big  Mac on September 07, 2014, 08:20:58 PM
Won't comment until I hear something from Mitch himself
Poor form if he doesn't stay with Melbourne IMO.

I mean one of the main reasons he retired was that he was guilty about being paid so much yet hardly playing... could always just come back to Melbourne and pay them back via loyalty  :-X
have to agree with Q. How can he come to Victoria and not play for the dees after feely guilty about not playing
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: henry on September 08, 2014, 12:31:03 AM
Quote from: tabs on September 08, 2014, 12:17:23 AM
Quote from: Master Q on September 07, 2014, 11:15:27 PM
Quote from: Big  Mac on September 07, 2014, 08:20:58 PM
Won't comment until I hear something from Mitch himself
Poor form if he doesn't stay with Melbourne IMO.

I mean one of the main reasons he retired was that he was guilty about being paid so much yet hardly playing... could always just come back to Melbourne and pay them back via loyalty  :-X
have to agree with Q. How can he come to Victoria and not play for the dees after feely guilty about not playing

Yeah I agree, though as mentioned there could be stuff going on there that triggered/deteriorated his condition, maybe best for him to go somewhere else. He is a real talent, Melbourne fans would feel disappointed if he ended up playing well for another club.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Capper on September 08, 2014, 12:52:10 AM
Quote from: ///////////////////////// on September 07, 2014, 07:07:09 PM
Liam Jones has rejected the contract offer that WB have put in front of him and wants to see what offers come his way during the trade period.

Out of contract players:

Gia (Retired)
Tom Williams (Retired)
Brett Goodes
Christian Howard
Easton Wood
Liam Jones
Jason Tutt
Daniel Pearce
Tom Young
Shaun Higgins - Restricted Free Agent
Lin Jong (R)
Mark Austin (R)
Jack Redpath (R)
Alex Greenwood (R)
that is a long list puss.

I think the majority of this list will go
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: elephants on September 08, 2014, 02:12:21 AM
Quote from: ///////////////////////// on September 08, 2014, 01:50:19 AM
Quote from: tabs on September 08, 2014, 12:52:10 AM
Quote from: ///////////////////////// on September 07, 2014, 07:07:09 PM

Gia (Retired)
Tom Williams (Retired)
Brett Goodes
Christian Howard
Easton Wood - trade
Liam Jones - re-sign!
Jason Tutt
Daniel Pearce
Tom Young
Shaun Higgins - gone
Lin Jong (R) - upgrade
Mark Austin (R)
Jack Redpath (R)
Alex Greenwood (R)
that is a long list puss.

I think the majority of this list will go

That's how it should be. A quarter of the list can be turned over and it's not going to hurt at all due to having great drafts recently.
I like Wood but he'll probably have to be let go. GWS wanted him when they poached Ward and have been hot on him ever since. Might have to lose him to bring Jaksch to the club and that's why he hasn't been re-signed yet.

Jones will probably walk, and it's a silly move to let him do so since he has more talent than Cordy and Campbell combined. Redpath being played ahead of him this season was an absolute disgrace so I can see why L-Jizz is exploring his options.

Not a Tommy Campbell fan!? Trading Wood definitely makes sense, Jaksch would be a good get for the Doggies.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: kilbluff1985 on September 08, 2014, 02:16:12 AM
will Frost get picked up? Saints might be interested
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Big Mac on September 08, 2014, 05:28:01 PM
Just made a post on Mitch Clark in the Melbourne discussion thread
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: MTTY on September 08, 2014, 05:33:54 PM
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on September 08, 2014, 02:16:12 AM
will Frost get picked up? Saints might be interested

I reckon the Dees will be interested tbh. If we lose Frawley, plus Clark, then we'd be in the market for a good key position player. Frost can player either end, so it'd make sense for us to make a play for him.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: JBs-Hawks on September 08, 2014, 06:57:25 PM
Which Frost?
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: kilbluff1985 on September 08, 2014, 06:58:26 PM
Quote from: JBs-Hawks on September 08, 2014, 06:57:25 PM
Which Frost?

GWS

him and Jaksch want to be traded
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Pkbaldy on September 09, 2014, 07:56:55 AM
I think the Saints are going to try and swoop up a key forward in this trade period... Hopefully Clark, only if he has his shower together. But I wouldn't mind taking the risk on Jaksch. Seems fairly handy and still young.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Nige on September 09, 2014, 09:50:37 AM
I expect the Dogs and Saints to try the hardest the get Jaksch.

Would be handy for either of them.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Toga on September 09, 2014, 09:58:56 AM
Carlton should be in the mix as well
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: kilbluff1985 on September 09, 2014, 01:01:56 PM
Quote from: Pkbaldy on September 09, 2014, 07:56:55 AM
I think the Saints are going to try and swoop up a key forward in this trade period... Hopefully Clark, only if he has his shower together. But I wouldn't mind taking the risk on Jaksch. Seems fairly handy and still young.

he wants to go to a successful club
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Pkbaldy on September 09, 2014, 01:42:17 PM
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on September 09, 2014, 01:01:56 PM
Quote from: Pkbaldy on September 09, 2014, 07:56:55 AM
I think the Saints are going to try and swoop up a key forward in this trade period... Hopefully Clark, only if he has his shower together. But I wouldn't mind taking the risk on Jaksch. Seems fairly handy and still young.

he wants to go to a successful club

And what 'successful' club would take a punt on a loose cannon like him?
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: SydneyRox on September 09, 2014, 01:50:32 PM
Quote from: Pkbaldy on September 09, 2014, 01:42:17 PM
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on September 09, 2014, 01:01:56 PM
Quote from: Pkbaldy on September 09, 2014, 07:56:55 AM
I think the Saints are going to try and swoop up a key forward in this trade period... Hopefully Clark, only if he has his shower together. But I wouldn't mind taking the risk on Jaksch. Seems fairly handy and still young.

he wants to go to a successful club

And what 'successful' club would take a punt on a loose cannon like him?

not many.

Carlton like to tell people they are successful.... Same as North...

Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Ricochet on September 09, 2014, 02:07:47 PM
Ross pretty much ruled out Clark going to Freo this morning at his press conference
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: RaisyDaisy on September 09, 2014, 02:20:10 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on September 09, 2014, 02:07:47 PM
Ross pretty much ruled out Clark going to Freo this morning at his press conference

Yeah pretty sure Mitch needs to stay in Melbourne because his partner is studying or something here
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Pkbaldy on September 09, 2014, 02:32:52 PM
Quote from: SydneyRox on September 09, 2014, 01:50:32 PM
Quote from: Pkbaldy on September 09, 2014, 01:42:17 PM
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on September 09, 2014, 01:01:56 PM
Quote from: Pkbaldy on September 09, 2014, 07:56:55 AM
I think the Saints are going to try and swoop up a key forward in this trade period... Hopefully Clark, only if he has his shower together. But I wouldn't mind taking the risk on Jaksch. Seems fairly handy and still young.

he wants to go to a successful club

And what 'successful' club would take a punt on a loose cannon like him?

not many.

Carlton like to tell people they are successful.... Same as North...

St Kilda actually have a chance of making finalsl in the next 3-5 years, depending on how our young players mature... Calton though... Probably 15-150 years? Somewhere between that margin I guess. If they pick up Higgins i'll be over the moon, 2 overpaid sheep dogs in the same team.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: SydneyRox on September 09, 2014, 02:42:29 PM
Clark is 26 though. You would want to making the finals in 1-2 year to reap the benefits of him before he turns turns 30. He is unlikely to be a match winning fwd in 4-5 years.

Some would say he is never going to be a match winning fwd
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Spite on September 09, 2014, 03:17:44 PM
Quote from: SydneyRox on September 09, 2014, 02:42:29 PM
Clark is 26 though. You would want to making the finals in 1-2 year to reap the benefits of him before he turns turns 30. He is unlikely to be a match winning fwd in 4-5 years.

Some would say he is never going to be a match winning fwd

Lots of older forwards are pretty good, Rooey, brown dog etc but I know what you mean.

Really hope he comes to the pies for lumumba, finally would get a talented forward to line up with cloke
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: SydneyRox on September 09, 2014, 03:40:29 PM
Quote from: Spite on September 09, 2014, 03:17:44 PM
Quote from: SydneyRox on September 09, 2014, 02:42:29 PM
Clark is 26 though. You would want to making the finals in 1-2 year to reap the benefits of him before he turns turns 30. He is unlikely to be a match winning fwd in 4-5 years.

Some would say he is never going to be a match winning fwd

Lots of older forwards are pretty good, Rooey, brown dog etc but I know what you mean.

Really hope he comes to the pies for lumumba, finally would get a talented forward to line up with cloke

Whats wrong with White???  8)

Seriously though, if Reid can get back to fitness he would be a better option than Clark
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Ringo on September 09, 2014, 05:16:50 PM
Couple of strong rumours from up North for you

Sauce Merrett defintely off the trade table.

Berger may be trade bait if Brisbane land Ryder - Could be part of deal with pies to get Dayne Beams.

Suns are chasing Hawks midfielder Mitch Hallahan and Swans Nick Malceski but will not commence discussions until after finals.

Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: SydneyRox on September 09, 2014, 05:18:29 PM
Berger to the pies would actually open the door for beams, sounds like a reasonable option

Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: jvalles69 on September 09, 2014, 05:21:10 PM
Anyone know if West Coast are trageting anyone?
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Ricochet on September 09, 2014, 05:21:37 PM
Interesting about Hallahan with the strength of the Suns midfield already.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: RaisyDaisy on September 09, 2014, 05:31:05 PM
Quote from: jvalles69 on September 09, 2014, 05:21:10 PM
Anyone know if West Coast are trageting anyone?

I cant remember the last time we targetted anyone

We seem to just get kids, and build them in house

Yeo was probably the only one, but he wanted to come home.

I'd love to hear a story about WCE chasing a big player! Never happens though :(
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: LF on September 09, 2014, 05:31:56 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on September 09, 2014, 05:31:05 PM
Quote from: jvalles69 on September 09, 2014, 05:21:10 PM
Anyone know if West Coast are trageting anyone?

I cant remember the last time we targetted anyone

We seem to just get kids, and build them in house

Pretty sure Simpson has said we aren`t
But that doesn`t mean a thing
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: jvalles69 on September 09, 2014, 05:38:58 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on September 09, 2014, 05:31:05 PM
Quote from: jvalles69 on September 09, 2014, 05:21:10 PM
Anyone know if West Coast are trageting anyone?

I cant remember the last time we targetted anyone

We seem to just get kids, and build them in house

Yeo was probably the only one, but he wanted to come home.

I'd love to hear a story about WCE chasing a big player! Never happens though :(

Think we made a mistake losing Ebert...need one more tough in and under player and a veteran in the backline to add some experience.  I heard a while back we might go after Malceski as his wife is from WA.  I'm not too fussed about picking up a big name, we do draft players pretty well, but some guys to give us a bit more leadership would be nice.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Mr.Craig on September 09, 2014, 05:39:16 PM
Quote from: Ringo on September 09, 2014, 05:16:50 PM
Suns are chasing Hawks midfielder Mitch Hallahan.

Would be interesting to know what GC would put on the table.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: kilbluff1985 on September 09, 2014, 05:43:38 PM
Quote from: Mr.Craig on September 09, 2014, 05:39:16 PM
Quote from: Ringo on September 09, 2014, 05:16:50 PM
Suns are chasing Hawks midfielder Mitch Hallahan.

Would be interesting to know what GC would put on the table.

yeah and considering the Hawks don't really need anything hard to see a deal happening
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Ricochet on September 09, 2014, 05:51:31 PM
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on September 09, 2014, 05:43:38 PM
Quote from: Mr.Craig on September 09, 2014, 05:39:16 PM
Quote from: Ringo on September 09, 2014, 05:16:50 PM
Suns are chasing Hawks midfielder Mitch Hallahan.

Would be interesting to know what GC would put on the table.

yeah and considering the Hawks don't really need anything hard to see a deal happening
Would probably like an A Grade midfielder for when Mitchell, Hodge, Burgoyne go I guess. Which is why its weird to hear something involving Hallahan going.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: kilbluff1985 on September 09, 2014, 05:53:05 PM
they might strongly consider it if they offered Cannon or KK
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: kilbluff1985 on September 09, 2014, 06:05:06 PM
Quote from: ///////////////////////// on September 09, 2014, 06:00:55 PM
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on September 09, 2014, 05:53:05 PM
they might strongly consider it if they offered Cannon or KK

WTF? Why would GC offer up one of these guns for a VFL player?

you obviously have no idea about Hallahan
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Mailman the 2nd on September 09, 2014, 06:10:59 PM
They wouldn't offer the best half back flank prospects in the country for a midfielder
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: kilbluff1985 on September 09, 2014, 06:14:01 PM
Quote from: Mailman the 2nd on September 09, 2014, 06:10:59 PM
They wouldn't offer the best half back flank prospects in the country for a midfielder

for one of the best midfield prospects in the country he isn't going to go cheap
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Mr.Craig on September 09, 2014, 06:14:11 PM
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on September 09, 2014, 05:43:38 PM
yeah and considering the Hawks don't really need anything hard to see a deal happening

We could definitely do with a key defender which is why Hawthorn have been mentioned in regards to Frawley and another quality mid certainly wouldn't go astray.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Mailman the 2nd on September 09, 2014, 06:19:48 PM
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on September 09, 2014, 06:14:01 PM
Quote from: Mailman the 2nd on September 09, 2014, 06:10:59 PM
They wouldn't offer the best half back flank prospects in the country for a midfielder

for one of the best midfield prospects in the country he isn't going to go cheap

Gold Coast would rather trade their first pick over any of their gun players. Positions like the one's KK and McKenzie fill are much rarer to find strong talent in so they're worth a lot more at this stage
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: kilbluff1985 on September 09, 2014, 06:23:10 PM
Quote from: Mailman the 2nd on September 09, 2014, 06:19:48 PM
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on September 09, 2014, 06:14:01 PM
Quote from: Mailman the 2nd on September 09, 2014, 06:10:59 PM
They wouldn't offer the best half back flank prospects in the country for a midfielder

for one of the best midfield prospects in the country he isn't going to go cheap

Gold Coast would rather trade their first pick over any of their gun players. Positions like the one's KK and McKenzie fill are much rarer to find strong talent in so they're worth a lot more at this stage

why would Hawks trade Hallahan for a first rounder when he is just as good as anyone they will get
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Mailman the 2nd on September 09, 2014, 06:27:15 PM
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on September 09, 2014, 06:23:10 PM
Quote from: Mailman the 2nd on September 09, 2014, 06:19:48 PM
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on September 09, 2014, 06:14:01 PM
Quote from: Mailman the 2nd on September 09, 2014, 06:10:59 PM
They wouldn't offer the best half back flank prospects in the country for a midfielder

for one of the best midfield prospects in the country he isn't going to go cheap

Gold Coast would rather trade their first pick over any of their gun players. Positions like the one's KK and McKenzie fill are much rarer to find strong talent in so they're worth a lot more at this stage

why would Hawks trade Hallahan for a first rounder when he is just as good as anyone they will get

The kid has played 6 games lol, no team is going to pay best 22 players for that regardless of how you spin it.

Maybe they spoke to him and he wants to move to the Gold Coast? idk
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: kilbluff1985 on September 09, 2014, 06:29:15 PM
he is only not best 22 because it's the Hawks, would be at most other clubs
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Mailman the 2nd on September 09, 2014, 06:38:01 PM
And all of Gold Coast's A-graders would be best 22 would be guaranteed best 22 at all clubs. I'm not really sure why they would downgrade to a guy playing VFL football, regardless of how he's rated outside
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Nige on September 10, 2014, 09:09:03 AM
Kyle Hardingham is likely to seek a trade.

Martin Gleeson and Ben Howlett still unsigned.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Nige on September 10, 2014, 09:20:30 AM
Geelong have tabled a five-year deal to James Frawley in the vicinity of $500,000 a season.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Ricochet on September 10, 2014, 10:02:51 AM
Melbourne are after Frost (GWS) to replace Frawley
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Nige on September 10, 2014, 10:07:43 AM
Apparently the Crows have offered Jeremy Cameron a big money and lengthy contract.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Ricochet on September 10, 2014, 10:08:07 AM
Quote from: NigeyS on September 10, 2014, 10:07:43 AM
Apparently the Crows have offered Jeremy Cameron a big money and lengthy contract.
to replace tex :o
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Nige on September 10, 2014, 10:11:37 AM
Quote from: Ricochet on September 10, 2014, 10:08:07 AM
Quote from: NigeyS on September 10, 2014, 10:07:43 AM
Apparently the Crows have offered Jeremy Cameron a big money and lengthy contract.
to replace tex :o
Maybe the Crows are conceding that the Swans will poach Tex.  :P
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: RaisyDaisy on September 10, 2014, 10:14:13 AM
I posted a few pages back that Port have apparently offered Tex a massive deal  :o
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: RaisyDaisy on September 10, 2014, 10:14:48 AM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on September 04, 2014, 08:49:55 PM
Rumour on League Teams that Port have offered Tex Walker 1M to switch to them  :o
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Sweetness on September 10, 2014, 10:20:06 AM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on September 10, 2014, 10:14:13 AM
I posted a few pages back that Port have apparently offered Tex a massive deal  :o

Hinkley said that was rubbish.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Purple 77 on September 10, 2014, 10:30:45 AM
That Frawley offer should land us Pick 3, he doesn't go to Hawthorn (just because I have a mate that goes for Hawthorn and I really don't want him to "have" frawley), and he goes to my second club in Geelong... so if not staying at the dees, that's my next best scenario  :P
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: SydneyRox on September 10, 2014, 10:33:03 AM
Quote from: NigeyS on September 10, 2014, 10:11:37 AM
Quote from: Ricochet on September 10, 2014, 10:08:07 AM
Quote from: NigeyS on September 10, 2014, 10:07:43 AM
Apparently the Crows have offered Jeremy Cameron a big money and lengthy contract.
to replace tex :o
Maybe the Crows are conceding that the Swans will poach Tex.  :P

shhhhh DAMN nige....  >:(
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: elephants on September 10, 2014, 10:53:27 AM
Hmm, Howlett eh
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Ricochet on September 10, 2014, 11:14:36 AM
Looks like Goldsack will reject an offer from Port and stay at the Pies
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: RaisyDaisy on September 10, 2014, 11:55:10 AM
Melbourne are making a play for Sam Frost
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Ricochet on September 10, 2014, 12:02:06 PM
Warren Tredrea saying Port were never interested in Goldsack and hadn't even spoke to him :-\
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: SydneyRox on September 10, 2014, 01:07:50 PM
Quote from: elephants on September 10, 2014, 10:53:27 AM
Hmm, Howlett eh

:o
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Ricochet on September 10, 2014, 01:12:51 PM
Hawks have ruled out Mitch Clark according to the Herald Sun
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: TomK on September 10, 2014, 03:19:43 PM
Quote from: NigeyS on September 10, 2014, 10:07:43 AM
Apparently the Crows have offered Jeremy Cameron a big money and lengthy contract.
Highly doubt he'd come, but would be amazing
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Ricochet on September 10, 2014, 04:40:08 PM
Bulldogs CEO on this trade period

- Bulldogs have the capability of being quite aggressive in making offers
- [on Frawley and MClark] "Clearly you want someone who's going to have a significant proportion of their career left. Having said that, you never say never. We want someone to come in for an extended period but you don't rule anything out"
- the club is continuing to have discussions with Shaun Higgins and is hopeful of getting a deal done
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Ricochet on September 10, 2014, 04:49:33 PM
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2014-09-10/suns-wont-rule-out-mitch-pitch?utm_medium=RSS

(http://i58.tinypic.com/260910k.png)

Robbo to GC?
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Vinny on September 10, 2014, 04:51:27 PM
Saying something like that doesn't help his chances at Carlton.

What would we get for him?
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: SydneyRox on September 10, 2014, 04:52:19 PM
Quote from: Vinny on September 10, 2014, 04:51:27 PM
Saying something like that doesn't help his chances at Carlton.

What would we get for him?

What chances? They want to trade him?
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Vinny on September 10, 2014, 04:54:24 PM
I meant more that it doesn't show that he even wants to stay.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Spite on September 10, 2014, 04:56:20 PM
Quote from: Vinny on September 10, 2014, 04:54:24 PM
I meant more that it doesn't show that he even wants to stay.

But its been said they don't want him so why would he try and stay?

Rumours going Lumuba for Mitch Clark - please be true!
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Vinny on September 10, 2014, 04:57:49 PM
It was just a smart ass annoy carlton kind of post by Robbo okay. :P
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Spite on September 10, 2014, 05:01:03 PM
Quote from: Vinny on September 10, 2014, 04:57:49 PM
It was just a smart ass annoy carlton kind of post by Robbo okay. :P

haha i get what you mean but surely seeing he is a smart arse makes you feel better about getting rid of him?
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Ricochet on September 10, 2014, 05:01:36 PM
Adelaide also said Henderson was trade bait last trade period :P
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Mat0369 on September 10, 2014, 05:05:41 PM
The unfortunate thing with Robbo is the club has said they will either trade or delist him, regardless of how much he wants to be at the club
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Vinny on September 10, 2014, 05:07:17 PM
Quote from: Spite on September 10, 2014, 05:01:03 PM
Quote from: Vinny on September 10, 2014, 04:57:49 PM
It was just a smart ass annoy carlton kind of post by Robbo okay. :P

haha i get what you mean but surely seeing he is a smart arse makes you feel better about getting rid of him?
Yeah haha it does a bit.

Quote from: Mat0369 on September 10, 2014, 05:05:41 PM
The unfortunate thing with Robbo is the club has said they will either trade or delist him, regardless of how much he wants to be at the club
:o
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Mat0369 on September 10, 2014, 05:14:32 PM
http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/mitch-robinson-left-shocked-at-being-dumped-by-carlton-according-to-manager/story-fni5f5nx-1227046723395?nk=136b45fbc71ec87c03bcefec4cab58f8

QuoteThe Blues are working to engineer a trade, but even if there are no suitors Robinson will be offered up as a delisted free agent. He has just come out of contract.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Vinny on September 10, 2014, 05:27:38 PM
Wow, I hope we can work something out.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Mat0369 on September 10, 2014, 05:30:53 PM
Same here, we can be letting players go for nothing, especially someone like Mitch
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: JBs-Hawks on September 10, 2014, 05:31:23 PM
Why would someone trade when they can get him as a free agent?
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: SydneyRox on September 10, 2014, 05:32:05 PM
Most clubs would be happy to pick up Robbo.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Mat0369 on September 10, 2014, 05:35:02 PM
Quote from: JBs-Hawks on September 10, 2014, 05:31:23 PM
Why would someone trade when they can get him as a free agent?

Pretty much. The only reason a club might trade for him is if there is interest from multiple clubs and they don't want to get into a bidding war with other teams in terms of cash
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: RaisyDaisy on September 10, 2014, 05:41:12 PM
Quote from: SydneyRox on September 10, 2014, 05:32:05 PM
Most clubs would be happy to pick up Robbo.

I'm not sure about that

I hope WCE doesnt touch him. Robbo's a hack. There, I said it  :P
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Ricochet on September 10, 2014, 05:46:21 PM
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2014-09-10/lions-circle-unhappy-paddy?utm_medium=RSS

THE BRISBANE Lions have confirmed speaking to Paddy Ryder's manager and are well and truly in the hunt for the Essendon ruckman's services.

General manager of football operations Dean Warren told lions.com.au the club had spoken to Ryder's manager Paul Connors, who confirmed his client was interested in heading north.

Ryder has two years remaining on his contract with the Bombers, but Warren said the Lions would be more than happy to accommodate the 26-year-old if he wanted to move.

"Paul Connors has spoken to us and has said Paddy Ryder isn't completely happy at Essendon," Warren said.

"Obviously Paddy's contracted though and my understanding is Paddy and Essendon will sit down this week or next and work through his future at Essendon.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Sweetness on September 10, 2014, 06:49:58 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on September 10, 2014, 05:46:21 PM
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2014-09-10/lions-circle-unhappy-paddy?utm_medium=RSS

THE BRISBANE Lions have confirmed speaking to Paddy Ryder's manager and are well and truly in the hunt for the Essendon ruckman's services.

With Leuy and S.Martin, why would they chase Paddy?
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Jroo on September 10, 2014, 06:51:01 PM
Quote from: Sweetness on September 10, 2014, 06:49:58 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on September 10, 2014, 05:46:21 PM
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2014-09-10/lions-circle-unhappy-paddy?utm_medium=RSS

THE BRISBANE Lions have confirmed speaking to Paddy Ryder's manager and are well and truly in the hunt for the Essendon ruckman's services.

With Leuy and S.Martin, why would they chase Paddy?
Berger could be on the move, but even if he stays Paddy as a forward would be handy.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: SydneyRox on September 10, 2014, 06:53:45 PM
Ryder does his best work as a ruck, but if he was allowed to play a high forward Richo/Buddy role he could be very handy
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Mat0369 on September 10, 2014, 06:53:59 PM
Yeah Paddy as a forward. I said this earlier, but some of the Bombers games I watched Paddy looked like their best ruck and forward. I think they would look to play him as a stay at home forward.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Sweetness on September 10, 2014, 06:54:58 PM
Quote from: JROO8 on September 10, 2014, 06:51:01 PM
Quote from: Sweetness on September 10, 2014, 06:49:58 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on September 10, 2014, 05:46:21 PM
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2014-09-10/lions-circle-unhappy-paddy?utm_medium=RSS

THE BRISBANE Lions have confirmed speaking to Paddy Ryder's manager and are well and truly in the hunt for the Essendon ruckman's services.

With Leuy and S.Martin, why would they chase Paddy?
Berger could be on the move, but even if he stays Paddy as a forward would be handy.

Haha just looked in the Brisbane thread, where Ringo reckons Leuy is trade bait for Dayne Beams....
That would be massive.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Ricochet on September 10, 2014, 07:03:07 PM
Looks like Goldsack has signed a 3 year deal with the pies
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Ringo on September 10, 2014, 07:24:00 PM
Quote from: JROO8 on September 10, 2014, 06:51:01 PM
Quote from: Sweetness on September 10, 2014, 06:49:58 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on September 10, 2014, 05:46:21 PM
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2014-09-10/lions-circle-unhappy-paddy?utm_medium=RSS

THE BRISBANE Lions have confirmed speaking to Paddy Ryder's manager and are well and truly in the hunt for the Essendon ruckman's services.

With Leuy and S.Martin, why would they chase Paddy?
Berger could be on the move, but even if he stays Paddy as a forward would be handy.
We have confirmed that Ryder's management have approached us so we will be following through.
Ryder will more than likely be used forward but will give ruck depth - Something we did not have this year with Martin having to do sole ruck for 12 games.  West will be in rehab for at least half of mext season as well.  In 3 of his last 6 seasons Berger has played 5 games or less so strategy after approach may be sound.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Mat0369 on September 10, 2014, 07:40:06 PM
We will take Berger at Carlton, you guys can have Robbie Warnock and Cam Wood
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: nrich102 on September 10, 2014, 08:52:03 PM
Quote from: Mat0369 on September 10, 2014, 07:40:06 PM
We will take Berger at Carlton, you guys can have Robbie Warnock and Cam Wood
Bahahahaha. Good one mat.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Mr.Craig on September 10, 2014, 10:15:44 PM
"Essendon coach James Hird has contacted Mitch Clark and his management about a possible move to the Bombers according to Fox Sports."
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Ricochet on September 10, 2014, 10:18:41 PM
Makes sense. Replaces Ryder basically and can play a fwd/ruck role with Belly
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Mr.Craig on September 10, 2014, 10:24:31 PM
Also read that the Bulldogs are offering 5 years to Jaksch which is just stupid.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: elephants on September 10, 2014, 10:26:09 PM
Quote from: Mr.Craig on September 10, 2014, 10:24:31 PM
Also read that the Bulldogs are offering 5 years to Jaksch which is just stupid.

That's ridiculous lol.

Although I guess its been done before with Hogan/Jack Martin etc.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Nige on September 10, 2014, 10:30:12 PM
The new, trendy thing to do is offer big contracts dollars to scare off other clubs - Carlton doing the same with Higgins iirc.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Mr.Craig on September 10, 2014, 10:33:49 PM
It'll all come back to bite them.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Capper on September 10, 2014, 10:43:40 PM
Quote from: NigeyS on September 10, 2014, 10:30:12 PM
The new, trendy thing to do is offer big contracts dollars to scare off other clubs - Carlton doing the same with Higgins iirc.
They dont need a big contract to scare off clubs for higgins, just a contract will do. Still cant believe Blues are going after him
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: strikes91 on September 10, 2014, 10:48:12 PM
http://www.theage.com.au/afl/afl-news/brisbane-to-make-offer-to-ryder-within-days-20140910-10f3hp.html
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Nige on September 11, 2014, 09:13:53 AM
As many as four clubs with million-dollar offers circled Essendon's Jake Carlisle last week urging him to leave the Bombers under the drugs "get-out clause" according to the Herald Sun.



The Lions are confident Paddy Ryder, who has two years to run on a contract, will accept a five-year offer worth an estimated $650,000 a season according to the Herald Sun.



Carlton have put a four-year deal in front of homesick GWS swingman, Kristian Jacksch, whilst the Western Bulldogs have reportedly tabled an initial five-year deal.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Pkbaldy on September 11, 2014, 11:10:14 AM
Quote from: NigeyS on September 11, 2014, 09:13:53 AM
As many as four clubs with million-dollar offers circled Essendon's Jake Carlisle last week urging him to leave the Bombers under the drugs "get-out clause" according to the Herald Sun.



The Lions are confident Paddy Ryder, who has two years to run on a contract, will accept a five-year offer worth an estimated $650,000 a season according to the Herald Sun.



Carlton have put a four-year deal in front of homesick GWS swingman, Kristian Jacksch, whilst the Western Bulldogs have reportedly tabled an initial five-year deal.

Surely they will use him as a power forward then? Or they plan on trading Leuy?
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Nige on September 11, 2014, 11:22:00 AM
Not player news but...

Mark McVeigh is joining GWS as an assistant coach.

Simon Goodwin apparently firming to take over Melbourne after Paul Roos.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: kilbluff1985 on September 11, 2014, 06:19:14 PM
Despite circling rumours, Anthony McConville, the manager of Bomber forward Jake Carlisle, says he wants to remain at the club and loves playing at Essendon.
"These rumours are completely untrue and baseless," McConville said.
"I spoke to Jake, and he laughed at the suggestion that he would leave the Bombers."
"He loves the Club, is contracted for next season."
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Ringo on September 11, 2014, 06:34:41 PM
Quote from: Pkbaldy on September 11, 2014, 11:10:14 AM
Quote from: NigeyS on September 11, 2014, 09:13:53 AM
As many as four clubs with million-dollar offers circled Essendon's Jake Carlisle last week urging him to leave the Bombers under the drugs "get-out clause" according to the Herald Sun.



The Lions are confident Paddy Ryder, who has two years to run on a contract, will accept a five-year offer worth an estimated $650,000 a season according to the Herald Sun.



Carlton have put a four-year deal in front of homesick GWS swingman, Kristian Jacksch, whilst the Western Bulldogs have reportedly tabled an initial five-year deal.

Surely they will use him as a power forward then? Or they plan on trading Leuy?
Correct - Will allow Sauce to revert to Defence where his heart is and give us back ruck up when injury strikes.  Although I do not consider him to be the answer to our forward woes.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Vinny on September 11, 2014, 06:36:43 PM
Far out Carlton.

4 years for Jacksch?!

Higgins at 525k?!

Stop please. :(
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: RaisyDaisy on September 11, 2014, 08:07:32 PM
Quote from: ///////////////////////// on September 11, 2014, 08:06:24 PM
Quote from: Vinny on September 11, 2014, 06:36:43 PM
Far out Carlton.

4 years for Jacksch?!

Higgins at 525k?!

Stop please. :(

Far out Carlton.

JJK, Dangerfield and Rance for Judd and Armfield

This is when Carlton destroyed themselves and they're paying the price now.

No amount of digging is going to get the Blues out of this hole. Should just have a cleanout and start again.

In regards to JJK, pretty sure we also got a pick from them that landed us Masten :D
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Spite on September 11, 2014, 08:07:51 PM
Quote from: ///////////////////////// on September 11, 2014, 08:06:24 PM
Quote from: Vinny on September 11, 2014, 06:36:43 PM
Far out Carlton.

4 years for Jacksch?!

Higgins at 525k?!

Stop please. :(

Far out Carlton.

JJK, Dangerfield and Rance for Judd and Armfield

This is when Carlton destroyed themselves and they're paying the price now.

No amount of digging is going to get the Blues out of this hole. Should just have a cleanout and start again.

Agreed. Higgins and KJ are not the answer.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Mr.Craig on September 11, 2014, 10:11:38 PM
"According to Channel 7's Tom Browne, Melbourne's Sam Blease has requested a trade to Carlton. Browne was the one that originally broke the Paddy Ryder to Brisbane trade."
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Mat0369 on September 11, 2014, 10:14:17 PM
That is a joke right?
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: JBs-Hawks on September 11, 2014, 10:14:27 PM
Another seagull to Carlton.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Ricochet on September 11, 2014, 10:16:57 PM
Watch them all go to the Blues... and then watch Mick actually make it all work :o
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Mat0369 on September 11, 2014, 10:32:24 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on September 11, 2014, 10:16:57 PM
Watch them all go to the Blues... and then watch Mick actually make it all work get sacked

fixed
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Nige on September 11, 2014, 10:37:30 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on September 11, 2014, 10:16:57 PM
Watch them all go to the Blues... and then watch Mick actually make it all work :o
It can't get any worse than the Daisy acquisition right?
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: kilbluff1985 on September 11, 2014, 10:45:30 PM
A mate played tennis against Allessio tonight he said Carlisle not going anywhere but they have some work to do if they want  to keep Ryder
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Mat0369 on September 11, 2014, 10:46:51 PM
Quote from: NigeyS on September 11, 2014, 10:37:30 PM
It can't get any worse than the Daisy acquisition right?

Oh it can
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Spite on September 11, 2014, 10:54:49 PM
Carlton (*rebuilding*) plan;

Step 1) Delist all Carlton duds
Step 2) Replace with others clubs duds
Step 3) Never admit to rebuilding, always say attempting to play finals
Step 4) Never play finals but optimistic for next season
Step 5) ???
Step 6) Profit
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Spite on September 11, 2014, 10:56:45 PM
Hurley, Heppell, Carlisle offered big money from a rival club according to footy show
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Nige on September 11, 2014, 10:58:56 PM
Quote from: Spite on September 11, 2014, 10:56:45 PM
Hurley, Heppell, Carlisle offered big money from a rival club according to footy show
Beat me to it.

Clubs (plural) I think they did say though.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Spite on September 11, 2014, 11:02:29 PM
Quote from: NigeyS on September 11, 2014, 10:58:56 PM
Quote from: Spite on September 11, 2014, 10:56:45 PM
Hurley, Heppell, Carlisle offered big money from a rival club according to footy show
Beat me to it.

Clubs (plural) I think they did say though.

They said it was "life changing money" but I didn't know to which player they were talking about (I think it was hurly?!)
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Nige on September 11, 2014, 11:05:58 PM
Quote from: Spite on September 11, 2014, 11:02:29 PM
Quote from: NigeyS on September 11, 2014, 10:58:56 PM
Quote from: Spite on September 11, 2014, 10:56:45 PM
Hurley, Heppell, Carlisle offered big money from a rival club according to footy show
Beat me to it.

Clubs (plural) I think they did say though.

They said it was "life changing money" but I didn't know to which player they were talking about (I think it was hurly?!)
Probably all of them.

Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Mat0369 on September 11, 2014, 11:06:12 PM
And Carlton is looking at Higgins, McKernan, Blease and luring Cox out of retirement

We better be looking at getting Hurley
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: kilbluff1985 on September 11, 2014, 11:14:27 PM
I can't handle it anymore so sick of it

Just leave us alone
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Vinny on September 11, 2014, 11:27:59 PM
Why can't we look at Hurley, Heppell, Shiel, WHE etc.

I'd love any of those 4. :'(
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: RaisyDaisy on September 11, 2014, 11:28:32 PM
Quote from: Mat0369 on September 11, 2014, 11:06:12 PM
And Carlton is looking at Higgins, McKernan, Blease and luring Cox out of retirement

We better be looking at getting Hurley

Cant fathom why Cox, the clubs leading game player, would come out of retirement and play for another club

Cant see it happening, and would be shocked if it happened

It was Carlisle that the Massive Money was apparently offered to
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Mat0369 on September 11, 2014, 11:29:00 PM
(http://i.imgur.com/16Oke3N.jpg)
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Mr.Craig on September 11, 2014, 11:35:17 PM
I think Mick going to Carlton was just a massive Collingwood conspiracy to destroy the Blues once and for all.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: ADEZ on September 11, 2014, 11:45:09 PM
Quote from: Mr.Craig on September 11, 2014, 11:35:17 PM
I think Mick going to Carlton was just a massive Collingwood conspiracy to destroy the Blues once and for all.
(http://cdn.scahw.com.au/cdn-1cf544ccbab1bb0/ImageVaultFiles/id_286558/cf_7/Malthouse-McGuire-Carlton-Meme-Original.jpg)
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Spite on September 12, 2014, 12:54:35 AM
Quote from: ///////////////////////// on September 12, 2014, 12:00:13 AM
Carlton destroyed themselves by always trying to top up with established players. Take a look at the trade and draft thread I just posted and it's clear to see that their recruiter is to blame. The 2007 Judd trade/draft was the dumbest move ever.

At least they didn't give up anything for Daisy.

Except a large chunk of their salary cap!  ::)
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Bill Manspeaker on September 12, 2014, 12:58:08 AM
think that was implied Spite :P

or should I have posted the Rainier Wolfcastle picture?  ;D
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Spite on September 12, 2014, 01:02:57 AM
Quote from: brad on September 12, 2014, 12:58:08 AM
think that was implied Spite :P

or should I have posted the Rainier Wolfcastle picture?  ;D

Oh my bad, brain switches off past... I was going to say 12 but I'll say about 5pm.  :P
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Bill Manspeaker on September 12, 2014, 01:09:35 AM
Quote from: Spite on September 12, 2014, 01:02:57 AM
Quote from: brad on September 12, 2014, 12:58:08 AM
think that was implied Spite :P

or should I have posted the Rainier Wolfcastle picture?  ;D

Oh my bad, brain switches off past... I was going to say 12 but I'll say about 5pm.  :P
brains have a switch? why didn't somebody tell me! where is the ON button?
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: nrich102 on September 12, 2014, 06:55:47 AM
Will Carlton give up a first round pick for Blease?
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Vinny on September 12, 2014, 07:09:39 AM
Quote from: nrich102 on September 12, 2014, 06:55:47 AM
Will Carlton give up a first round pick for Blease?
No.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: nrich102 on September 12, 2014, 07:15:37 AM
Quote from: Vinny on September 12, 2014, 07:09:39 AM
Quote from: nrich102 on September 12, 2014, 06:55:47 AM
Will Carlton give up a first round pick for Blease?
No.
(https://i1.sndcdn.com/artworks-000033142460-81drse-t200x200.jpg?e76cf77)

Bryce Gibbs & 1st round pick for Blease
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Ricochet on September 12, 2014, 09:37:15 AM
http://www.news.com.au/sport/afl/gold-coast-eye-courtenay-dempsey-as-suns-look-to-bolster-an-inexperienced-list/story-fndv8hfz-1227055733668

GOLD Coast and rival clubs will aggressively pursue Essendon defender Courtenay Dempsey as the Suns attempt to bolster their list with established talent.

Dempsey is seen by the Suns to be available as rivals circle a club already reeling from the potential departure of ruckman Patrick Ryder to Brisbane.

Dempsey has another year on his contract but is from Cairns and endured a troubled season that included being suspended by the club.

He admitted he "went off the rails" which led to his banishment and while he returned to play football in Round 6 he was the substitute in the last two games of the season.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Nige on September 12, 2014, 09:39:35 AM
This is thoroughly entertaining.  ;D
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Purple 77 on September 12, 2014, 09:42:31 AM
Maybe Blease could be a good player at another club... he certainly has the talent. But maybe not the engine or a defensive willingness.

Maybe a good club could set him straight? Either way, I assumed he would be delisted. 3rd or 4th round pick would be cool.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Nige on September 12, 2014, 09:44:38 AM
Quote from: Purple 77 on September 12, 2014, 09:42:31 AM
Maybe a good club could set him straight?
Well then he probably shouldn't go to Carlton.  :P
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: elephants on September 12, 2014, 09:55:01 AM
Quote from: NigeyS on September 12, 2014, 09:39:35 AM
This is thoroughly entertaining.  ;D
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Pkbaldy on September 12, 2014, 10:12:02 AM
Quote from: Purple 77 on September 12, 2014, 09:42:31 AM
Maybe Blease could be a good player at another club... he certainly has the talent. But maybe not the engine or a defensive willingness.

Maybe a good club could set him straight? Either way, I assumed he would be delisted. 3rd or 4th round pick would be cool.

I reckon he has potential... Bring him to the Saints!
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: kilbluff1985 on September 12, 2014, 11:38:57 AM
not sure why GC want Dempsey
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Ricochet on September 12, 2014, 11:45:49 AM
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on September 12, 2014, 11:38:57 AM
not sure why GC want Dempsey
Looking for experience man

Quote from: Ricochet on September 12, 2014, 09:37:15 AM
http://www.news.com.au/sport/afl/gold-coast-eye-courtenay-dempsey-as-suns-look-to-bolster-an-inexperienced-list/story-fndv8hfz-1227055733668

GOLD Coast and rival clubs will aggressively pursue Essendon defender Courtenay Dempsey as the Suns attempt to bolster their list with established talent.

Dempsey is seen by the Suns to be available as rivals circle a club already reeling from the potential departure of ruckman Patrick Ryder to Brisbane.

Dempsey has another year on his contract but is from Cairns and endured a troubled season that included being suspended by the club.

He admitted he "went off the rails" which led to his banishment and while he returned to play football in Round 6 he was the substitute in the last two games of the season.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Nige on September 12, 2014, 12:43:09 PM
Has been some mention of a Lumumba for Clark trade between the Pies and Dees.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Nige on September 12, 2014, 02:33:23 PM
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2014-09-12/worth-a-look
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Ricochet on September 12, 2014, 02:36:21 PM
Quote from: NigeyS on September 12, 2014, 02:33:23 PM
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2014-09-12/worth-a-look
Freo to look at Hardingham. Could be handy for us
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: kilbluff1985 on September 12, 2014, 02:52:29 PM
Wondering what people think of this

Ryder signed a contract during the year

anyone that was really upset with the club and was considering leaving would never have signed a new contract

so taking the above into account i don't think he should be able to use that as an excuse
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Ricochet on September 12, 2014, 03:51:52 PM
Apparently Adelaide have contacted Schoenmakers
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Mat0369 on September 12, 2014, 04:18:07 PM
Blease is not worth pick 103 and Carlton will probably trade Melbourne Mitch Robinson and a top 30 pick for him ::)
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: elephants on September 12, 2014, 07:44:19 PM
Quote from: NigeyS on September 12, 2014, 02:33:23 PM
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2014-09-12/worth-a-look

Robinson? Yes if we aren't paying overs.
Jetta? Eh, bit much like Hill for my liking. Maybe worth a rookie list spot.
Hardingham? Not too keen, don't think we need him at either end really.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Nige on September 12, 2014, 08:10:16 PM
Clint Jones linked to Melbourne and Gold Coast.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Purple 77 on September 12, 2014, 09:21:51 PM
Quote from: NigeyS on September 12, 2014, 08:10:16 PM
Clint Jones linked to Melbourne and Gold Coast.

Ahhhhhh bugger.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Nige on September 12, 2014, 09:23:04 PM
Quote from: Purple 77 on September 12, 2014, 09:21:51 PM
Quote from: NigeyS on September 12, 2014, 08:10:16 PM
Clint Jones linked to Melbourne and Gold Coast.

Ahhhhhh bugger.
Something about the Dees looking at Jason Tutt from the Dogs.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Purple 77 on September 12, 2014, 09:24:12 PM
Quote from: NigeyS on September 12, 2014, 09:23:04 PM
Quote from: Purple 77 on September 12, 2014, 09:21:51 PM
Quote from: NigeyS on September 12, 2014, 08:10:16 PM
Clint Jones linked to Melbourne and Gold Coast.

Ahhhhhh bugger.
Something about the Dees looking at Jason Tutt from the Dogs.

Lol, really? A Sam Blease replacement  :P

Meh, sure, I liked what I saw of him this year, I only paid attention to him because I have him in Worlds  :P
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Nige on September 12, 2014, 09:35:16 PM
Quote from: Purple 77 on September 12, 2014, 09:24:12 PM
Quote from: NigeyS on September 12, 2014, 09:23:04 PM
Quote from: Purple 77 on September 12, 2014, 09:21:51 PM
Quote from: NigeyS on September 12, 2014, 08:10:16 PM
Clint Jones linked to Melbourne and Gold Coast.

Ahhhhhh bugger.
Something about the Dees looking at Jason Tutt from the Dogs.

Lol, really? A Sam Blease replacement  :P

Meh, sure, I liked what I saw of him this year, I only paid attention to him because I have him in Worlds  :P
Potentially another Demon on your Berlin list eh?  ;)
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Mr.Craig on September 12, 2014, 11:59:30 PM
"Adelaide have reportedly contacted Ryan Shoenmakers' management about a potential move to the Crows. ‪#‎AFLTrades‬ Source: SEN"

Is Lyons uncontracted? I wouldn't necessarily be unhappy with that swap.

Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Mr.Craig on September 13, 2014, 12:11:32 AM
To answer my own question, apparently Lyons has asked for a trade so there's the possibility of something being worked out there. Don't know how he'd go actually cracking the side but might be handy.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: RaisyDaisy on September 13, 2014, 04:56:42 AM
Quote from: NigeyS on September 12, 2014, 08:10:16 PM
Clint Jones linked to Melbourne and Gold Coast.

He's a spud, and 30 years old. Should just retire. Sounds harsh, but the game has passed him

Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: henry on September 13, 2014, 12:18:40 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on September 13, 2014, 04:56:42 AM
Quote from: NigeyS on September 12, 2014, 08:10:16 PM
Clint Jones linked to Melbourne and Gold Coast.

He's a spud, and 30 years old. Should just retire. Sounds harsh, but the game has passed him
Agreed. Had a couple of good games this year but is too slow.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Sweetness on September 13, 2014, 12:40:35 PM
Quote from: Mr.Craig on September 12, 2014, 11:59:30 PM
"Adelaide have reportedly contacted Ryan Shoenmakers' management about a potential move to the Crows. ‪#‎AFLTrades‬ Source: SEN"

Is Lyons uncontracted? I wouldn't necessarily be unhappy with that swap.

Lyons is a talent, been absolutely carving up in the SANFL.
And yeah pretty sure his contract is up at the end of the year.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Nige on September 14, 2014, 11:58:14 AM
The Herald Sun are reporting that Paddy Ryder could walk out on Essendon as early as this week, however the Bombers are demanding a high pick and a senior player in return for Ryder.

The Bombers are understood to be ready to file court action should Ryder walk out on the club whilst contracted, through an AFL player association rule that allows Essendon players to move freely to another club due to the on-going drugs saga which created an 'unsafe work environment'.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Mailman the 2nd on September 14, 2014, 01:34:47 PM
So is Essendon going to be contesting the rule that the players association made? Surely the club would've had to agree to it to some extent when it was put forward
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Ringo on September 14, 2014, 02:56:47 PM
Correct me if I am wrong but should Ryder decide to walk he would have to go into the draft or does the clause that he is using to void contract make him an unrestricted free agent. 
Think Bombers are trying to sort out a ruling early to stop other players doing the same.  The sticking point could be the definition of "unsafe workplace"
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: SydneyRox on September 14, 2014, 02:59:48 PM
I think the wording says he becomes an unrestricted free agent. Allowing him to sign anywhere.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: shaker on September 14, 2014, 03:22:10 PM
Think the Bombers might have to get used to going to court can see players suing them down the track , when it boils down to it Hirds supplement program has been and will continue to be a massive cock up
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Ringo on September 14, 2014, 03:47:20 PM
Thanks for the clarification delisted free agent as oppossed to unrestricted free agent makes sense.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: RaisyDaisy on September 14, 2014, 05:31:14 PM
Looks like the Pies are the front runners to get Mitch Clarke
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Spite on September 14, 2014, 05:32:57 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on September 14, 2014, 05:31:14 PM
Looks like the Pies are the front runners to get Mitch Clarke

Really really hope so!
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: GoLions on September 14, 2014, 05:43:27 PM
Quote from: Spite on September 14, 2014, 05:32:57 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on September 14, 2014, 05:31:14 PM
Looks like the Pies are the front runners to get Mitch Clarke

Really really hope so!
Ok, and meanwhile some other team will be overjoyed at landing Mitch Clark at their club ;)
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Nige on September 14, 2014, 05:45:55 PM
Quote from: GoLions16 on September 14, 2014, 05:43:27 PM
Quote from: Spite on September 14, 2014, 05:32:57 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on September 14, 2014, 05:31:14 PM
Looks like the Pies are the front runners to get Mitch Clarke

Really really hope so!
Ok, and meanwhile some other team will be overjoyed at landing Mitch Clark at their club ;)
Very much so!  ;)
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Spite on September 14, 2014, 05:48:57 PM
Quote from: GoLions16 on September 14, 2014, 05:43:27 PM
Quote from: Spite on September 14, 2014, 05:32:57 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on September 14, 2014, 05:31:14 PM
Looks like the Pies are the front runners to get Mitch Clarke

Really really hope so!
Ok, and meanwhile some other team will be overjoyed at landing Mitch Clark at their club ;)

Pies to land both! 😜
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Nige on September 14, 2014, 06:25:26 PM
West Coast's Callum Sinclair is up for trade if if a satisfactory deal is offered according to the Herald Sun.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Rusty00 on September 14, 2014, 09:42:21 PM
Quote from: Nige on September 14, 2014, 06:25:26 PM
West Coast's Callum Sinclair is up for trade if if a satisfactory deal is offered according to the Herald Sun.
Imagine Jukes if he went to Essendon :o
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: kilbluff1985 on September 14, 2014, 11:53:40 PM
The Herald Sun is reporting that Essendon are interested in young Gold Coast ruckman Daniel Gorringe who has apparently requested a trade for further first team opportunities.
Was a top ten draft pick, stands at 200cm, 98kg and is 22 years of age.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Sweetness on September 15, 2014, 12:01:25 AM
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on September 14, 2014, 11:53:40 PM
The Herald Sun is reporting that Essendon are interested in young Gold Coast ruckman Daniel Gorringe who has apparently requested a trade for further first team opportunities.
Was a top ten draft pick, stands at 200cm, 98kg and is 22 years of age.

Worth chasing especially if Ryder is on the move.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: tbagrocks on September 15, 2014, 12:01:46 AM
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on September 14, 2014, 11:53:40 PM
The Herald Sun is reporting that Essendon are interested in young Gold Coast ruckman Daniel Gorringe who has apparently requested a trade for further first team opportunities.
Was a top ten draft pick, stands at 200cm, 98kg and is 22 years of age.
It's his own fault for re-signing in the first place ::)  stupid young flog, but sheesh, doesn't surprise me

Either Day or Gorringe to return to Adelaide. There's my tip!
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Sweetness on September 15, 2014, 12:04:40 AM
Quote from: tbagrocks on September 15, 2014, 12:01:46 AM
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on September 14, 2014, 11:53:40 PM
The Herald Sun is reporting that Essendon are interested in young Gold Coast ruckman Daniel Gorringe who has apparently requested a trade for further first team opportunities.
Was a top ten draft pick, stands at 200cm, 98kg and is 22 years of age.
It's his own fault for re-signing in the first place ::)  stupid young flog, but sheesh, doesn't surprise me

Either Day or Gorringe to return to Adelaide. There's my tip!

Talia and Day.
Good luck opposition forwards.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: nrich102 on September 15, 2014, 07:34:23 AM
Quote from: Sweetness on September 15, 2014, 12:04:40 AM
Quote from: tbagrocks on September 15, 2014, 12:01:46 AM
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on September 14, 2014, 11:53:40 PM
The Herald Sun is reporting that Essendon are interested in young Gold Coast ruckman Daniel Gorringe who has apparently requested a trade for further first team opportunities.
Was a top ten draft pick, stands at 200cm, 98kg and is 22 years of age.
It's his own fault for re-signing in the first place ::)  stupid young flog, but sheesh, doesn't surprise me

Either Day or Gorringe to return to Adelaide. There's my tip!

Talia and Day.
Good luck opposition forwards.
Day is better as a forward than as a back. He won't be moving though.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Ringo on September 15, 2014, 10:06:12 AM
Gorringe is stuck behind Smith, Dixon and Nichols so understandable that he is chasing alternates. Looked good when called upon late in the season due to injuries.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Tominator on September 15, 2014, 11:22:30 AM
not sure if posted earlier (just found the thread) but Ryan Schoenmakers to the Crows was rumoured at the weekend

Is it a legitimate possibility? What do Hawks fans think on this? I reckon we'd probably have to offload a 2nd-round pick or maybe a fringe player to land him. Would definitely add some experience with the retirement of Rutten

Also, Dan Gorringe being an SA boy could be a good pick-up as well. Jonathon Giles is also rated as a chance to return to SA after falling out of favour at GWS. With Angus Graham and Spud McKernan now gone, we need at least one of those two
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Mr.Craig on September 15, 2014, 12:25:04 PM
Quote from: Tominator on September 15, 2014, 11:22:30 AM
not sure if posted earlier (just found the thread) but Ryan Schoenmakers to the Crows was rumoured at the weekend

Is it a legitimate possibility? What do Hawks fans think on this? I reckon we'd probably have to offload a 2nd-round pick or maybe a fringe player to land him. Would definitely add some experience with the retirement of Rutten

He is contracted to the end of next year but it's still a real possibility. I'm not sure giving up a second rounder would be acceptable to the Crows given they had a couple of compromised drafts. Something might be able to be worked out.

Grimley to Adelaide has also been mention but I find that hard to believe given the Crows already have Walker, Jenkins and Lynch.

The most intriguing Crows/Hawks related trade talk revolves around the possibility that Adelaide might take offers for Dangerfield instead of risking losing out next year. I honestly don't think anything like that will happen because half of SA would start a riot but it's fun to daydream about.  :P
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: RaisyDaisy on September 15, 2014, 06:15:58 PM
Not sure if mentioned but Frawley visited Freo on the weekend and they are right in the hunt with Geelong to get him now
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: kilbluff1985 on September 15, 2014, 08:12:24 PM
no idea what this means but was taken today

(http://i59.tinypic.com/11rr81z.jpg)
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: GoLions on September 15, 2014, 08:13:09 PM
EP? Essendon Poos?
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: kilbluff1985 on September 15, 2014, 08:16:02 PM
Quote from: GoLions on September 15, 2014, 08:13:09 PM
EP? Essendon Poos?

flower off
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: GoLions on September 15, 2014, 08:16:35 PM
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on September 15, 2014, 08:16:02 PM
Quote from: GoLions on September 15, 2014, 08:13:09 PM
EP? Essendon Poos?

flower off
(http://img1.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20130919021215/gtawiki/images/d/df/Calm-your-tits_o_857534.jpg)
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: kilbluff1985 on September 15, 2014, 08:19:54 PM
(http://i62.tinypic.com/2jadkw9.jpg)
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: GoLions on September 15, 2014, 08:21:32 PM
(http://media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m466nmT7Y01r35j72.gif)
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Mr.Craig on September 15, 2014, 09:30:59 PM
confused.jpg
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: kilbluff1985 on September 15, 2014, 09:37:34 PM
Just a casual Monday night convo between Dave and I

Nothing to see here move along
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Nige on September 15, 2014, 09:38:19 PM
I'm not fazed by the Dave/KB combo, it's nrich's img posting fail that's bugging me.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Tominator on September 15, 2014, 09:43:11 PM
eggs poached ... ??
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Ricochet on September 16, 2014, 12:38:46 AM
apparently Port in the running for Ryder now. According to Caro
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Mr.Craig on September 16, 2014, 01:05:45 AM
I can't even picture that in my head.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Nige on September 16, 2014, 10:26:32 AM
Is this Port's way of trying to get back at Essendon for having interest in Gorringe from the Suns?  ??? :P
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: ADEZ on September 16, 2014, 10:28:50 AM
I wish we could pull it off, would be the perfect fit, tall athletic forward that will be able to give Lobbe much deserved breaks
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Ricochet on September 16, 2014, 01:56:40 PM
Adeladie have met with ROK, but wanting him for a coaching role
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Mr.Craig on September 16, 2014, 05:35:39 PM
17 days until the action begins.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Nige on September 16, 2014, 05:40:38 PM
Quote from: Mr.Craig on September 16, 2014, 05:35:39 PM
17 days until the action begins.
Can't come quick enough.  :P
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: strikes91 on September 16, 2014, 07:14:44 PM
Ryder in Brisbane having a BBQ with the Lions Board

BBQ

BBQ

BBQ

Reports he enjoyed his steak and chips, 5 year deal accepted
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Football Factory on September 16, 2014, 07:43:21 PM
Guess we wont have to worry about him not playing for 2 years then
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: SydneyRox on September 16, 2014, 08:31:13 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on September 16, 2014, 01:56:40 PM
Adeladie have met with ROK, but wanting him for a coaching role

GWS apparantly have also. Still think he is holding out to play
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Mr.Craig on September 16, 2014, 08:35:09 PM
Collingwood's Heritier Lumumba is now certain to depart Collingwood in this season Trade Period, Likely for a draft pick in the late 20's.

Melbourne, Another Victorian based club and a Western Australian club are all interested according to the Herald Sun.

It seems unlikely there would be a direct swap for Lumumba and Clark, with the risk attached to the Melbourne player meaning the Pies might give up less to acquire him.

- Herald Sun
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: elephants on September 16, 2014, 08:43:51 PM
Oh interesting. I assume the Western Australian club is us. Not too sure how I feel about this...
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Master Q on September 16, 2014, 08:46:39 PM
Stay away from Carlton pls.

Mick and Lumamba would probably start a political party with all their complaints.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: elephants on September 16, 2014, 09:06:06 PM
Quote from: Master Q on September 16, 2014, 08:46:39 PM
Mick and Lumamba would probably start a political party with all their complaints.

lol'd :') Can just imagine Harry storming out of parliament because someone degraded someone during question time.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Big Mac on September 16, 2014, 09:11:18 PM
Clark not a fair swap for Lumumba? eddie pls
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: JBs-Hawks on September 16, 2014, 09:14:55 PM
Quote from: Big  Mac on September 16, 2014, 09:11:18 PM
Clark not a fair swap for Lumumba? eddie pls

Yea collingwood should send the first rounder to even it up.


Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Vinny on September 16, 2014, 09:15:30 PM
Eddie is such a flog, it hurts my brain.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Mailman the 2nd on September 16, 2014, 09:43:51 PM
Quote from: Vinny on September 16, 2014, 09:15:30 PM
Eddie is such a flog, it hurts my brain.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: SydneyRox on September 16, 2014, 09:54:58 PM
Quote from: Vinny on September 16, 2014, 09:15:30 PM
Eddie is such a flog, it hurts my brain.


try giving him no thought. works for me  8)
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: stew42 on September 16, 2014, 10:59:08 PM
Quote from: Mailman the 2nd on September 16, 2014, 09:43:51 PM
Quote from: Vinny on September 16, 2014, 09:15:30 PM
Eddie is such a flog, it hurts my brain.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: stew42 on September 16, 2014, 10:59:41 PM
Note the Swans fans all agreeing  :P
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Nige on September 17, 2014, 08:29:03 AM
Port Adelaide, GWS and now Sydney are the other three clubs in the race to secure Paddy Ryder's signature.

Port Adelaide's ability to offer immediate finals action is seen as a major attraction to Ryder, who has played just two finals with Essendon in 170 games since debuting in 2006.

Sydney have come to the fore, given they are heavily reliant on 30-year old Mike Pyke. Ryder, who is set to also meet with Sydney are seen as 'unlikely' to secure his signature given the lack of salary cap room after acquiring Buddy Franklin as a free agent last year. However Sydney insiders believe that with the departures of Nick Malceski and Ryan O'Keefe 'and one more' the Swans may be able to heavily back-end Ryder's contract, pinning their hopes on luring Ryder to play in a side whose premiership window is wide open.

GWS are considered outsiders in the deal since they successfully lured former Swan and Cat, Shane Mumford during the trade period, and have an abundance of developing talls already on their books.



Inb4 Ryder ends up a Swan.  ::)
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Mailman the 2nd on September 17, 2014, 08:35:02 AM
Can't see it happening, would mean that Sydney would have to play another tall on top of all the ones they already have.

We'll just pick a lowly rated ruck and create another Shane Mumford thanks  8)
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: meow meow on September 17, 2014, 09:25:09 AM
Quote from: Mailman the 2nd on September 17, 2014, 08:35:02 AM
Can't see it happening, would mean that Sydney would have to play another tall on top of all the ones they already have.

We'll just pick a lowly rated ruck and create another Shane Mumford thanks  8)

Geelong created Mumford and he wasn't lowly rated. He moved to Syd on a $450,000-a-year contract.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Ringo on September 17, 2014, 09:30:51 AM
Brisbane are tabling a 4 year offer worth $2.5m for Ryder.  We acknowledge we are behind Port Adelaide if Ryder chooses success as first criteria.




Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Purple 77 on September 17, 2014, 09:37:15 AM
Quote from: Big  Mac on September 16, 2014, 09:11:18 PM
Clark not a fair swap for Lumumba? eddie pls

ikr. Yet the article then goes on to say that melbourne might have to add a draft pick because of the uncertainty of his health  ::)

If this was a fantasy comp, you'd be keeping Clark because his market value is ridiculously low. But, unfortunately this is real life and your players have a mind of their own  :-X
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Mailman the 2nd on September 17, 2014, 10:03:10 AM
Quote from: meow meow on September 17, 2014, 09:25:09 AM
Quote from: Mailman the 2nd on September 17, 2014, 08:35:02 AM
Can't see it happening, would mean that Sydney would have to play another tall on top of all the ones they already have.

We'll just pick a lowly rated ruck and create another Shane Mumford thanks  8)

Geelong created Mumford and he wasn't lowly rated. He moved to Syd on a $450,000-a-year contract.

They were playing Mark Blake over him lol, Swans have a pretty good history with trading in ruckmen!
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: RaisyDaisy on September 17, 2014, 10:59:08 AM
The Herald Sun can reveal Padraig Lucey, a part time pool lifeguard from County Kerry, will join the Cats on a two year deal.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Spite on September 17, 2014, 12:48:31 PM
The article that Mr C posted is a little different than what Eddie and collingwood say in today's herald sun print.

Summary;
- pies think they can get a mid to late 20s pick for 27 year old, lumumba who has played an incredible 186 games in 8 seasons showing his rb durability
- lumumba won't go to Carlton
- completely up in the air where he will go between a WA, Vic based club and Melbourne
- Eddie thinks Clark is probably worth 3rd round + for the risk associated

If lumumba goes to let's say bulldogs for pick late 20s then pies would offer an early 30s pick to dees for Clark. If the pies just so happen trade lumumba to dees, they'd still expect a late 20s pick and give an early 30s for Clark. You have to do what's best for the club which would mean trying to get the best deals possible. I think Clark is better than lumumba but if I were Eddie, I would keep saying how big of a risk Clark is to scare away other teams and also get him cheaper. And then you'd talk up lumumba on purpose to get the most for him. It makes perfect sense why he would say the things he said
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Ricochet on September 17, 2014, 01:29:40 PM
From 2014 AFL Offeason on twitter/facebook

‪#‎TheRecruit‬ contestant who has been playing with Beauauris in the VAFA, Waylon Manson has reportedly been spotted at Collingwood today, undergoing fitness testing and an interview.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: SydneyRox on September 17, 2014, 02:19:32 PM
Unless he has put some work in, we all know his fitness is shower!!

Deserves a crack, but I wouldnt want to waste anything more than a rookie spot on him.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Ricochet on September 17, 2014, 02:37:25 PM
From 2014 AFL Offeason on twitter/facebook

Carlton's Jeff Garlett has reportedly requested a trade to Collingwood.
Both Essendon and West Coast have been named as other clubs to express the interest in the small forward.

Mitch Robinson may have found two potential suitors, with North Melbourne and Hawthorn signalling interest in the maligned forward/midfielder.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Ricochet on September 17, 2014, 02:42:00 PM
Also

http://www.perthnow.com.au/sport/afl/fremantle-offer-james-frawley-3m-for-five-year-deal/story-fniv64vs-1227061568883

FREE agent James Frawley is considering a five-year contract worth $3 million to join Fremantle from next season.

And in a frantic bid to bolster their big man stocks the Dockers have entered discussions with disgruntled Carlton forward Jarrad Waite.

Frawley, 26, next week, is considering a deal worth $600,000 a season from next year if he takes Fremantle's offer and walks out on Melbourne as an unrestricted free agent.

It is understood that Geelong has offered Frawley in the region of $500,000 a season over five years.

Fremantle could have won Frawley's commitment if a request from his management for a seven-year deal was agreed.

Dockers officials are believed to have ruled out such a lengthy contract to a player about to turn 26.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: elephants on September 17, 2014, 02:44:05 PM
flower you then Garlett :P
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Ricochet on September 17, 2014, 02:45:06 PM
Didn't think he would come home with the family issues he has over here
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Mailman the 2nd on September 17, 2014, 02:46:03 PM
Imagine if Frawley became Sylvia 2.0  :-X
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Spite on September 17, 2014, 02:47:14 PM
Would love garlett at the pies! Here comes the forward line we have dreamed about for years.

Wonder how we will do all these trades with no salary cap space at all... ;)
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: RaisyDaisy on September 17, 2014, 03:05:51 PM
Quote from: Mailman the 2nd on September 17, 2014, 02:46:03 PM
Imagine if Frawley became Gumbleton 2.0  :-X
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Pkbaldy on September 17, 2014, 03:23:44 PM
Quote from: Spite on September 17, 2014, 02:47:14 PM
Would love garlett at the pies! Here comes the forward line we have dreamed about for years.

Wonder how we will do all these trades with no salary cap space at all... ;)

Don't you have enough small forwards who go missing constantly?
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Mr.Craig on September 17, 2014, 03:32:32 PM
A lot of Hawks fans have been grinding their teeth about Mitch Rob. I almost want it to be true just to see how it all plays out.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Sweetness on September 17, 2014, 04:04:34 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on September 17, 2014, 02:42:00 PM
Also

http://www.perthnow.com.au/sport/afl/fremantle-offer-james-frawley-3m-for-five-year-deal/story-fniv64vs-1227061568883

FREE agent James Frawley is considering a five-year contract worth $3 million to join Fremantle from next season.

Frawley, 26, next week, is considering a deal worth $600,000 a season from next year if he takes Fremantle's offer and walks out on Melbourne as an unrestricted free agent.


He's not worth that much surely?
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Mat0369 on September 17, 2014, 04:08:30 PM
Quote from: Mr.Craig on September 17, 2014, 03:32:32 PM
A lot of Hawks fans have been grinding their teeth about Mitch Rob. I almost want it to be true just to see how it all plays out.

He would be a handy replacement for Sewell. He is younger and better then Simpkin
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: _wato on September 17, 2014, 04:11:39 PM
Please no to Garlett.. We already have an endless abundance of small fwd/mids, it does my scone in! I'd rather give game time to Karnezis/KMart/Thomas/BenKen etc than give him games. Good player but not disciplined enough - However it would be nice to have a 40+ goal a year kicker, something we have lacked (good small forwards)

Our forwardline would be essentially second rate when I compare it to others..

Sidebottom, Cloke, White
Garlett, Clark, Elliot

Seems like we're scraping out of the barrel when you look at Sydney/Hawthorn/Port Adelaide etc lolllll
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Spite on September 17, 2014, 04:42:50 PM
Quote from: _wato on September 17, 2014, 04:11:39 PM
Please no to Garlett.. We already have an endless abundance of small fwd/mids, it does my scone in! I'd rather give game time to Karnezis/KMart/Thomas/BenKen etc than give him games. Good player but not disciplined enough - However it would be nice to have a 40+ goal a year kicker, something we have lacked (good small forwards)

Our forwardline would be essentially second rate when I compare it to others..

Sidebottom, Cloke, White
Garlett, Clark, Elliot

Seems like we're scraping out of the barrel when you look at Sydney/Hawthorn/Port Adelaide etc lolllll

Reads much better when you say;

Sidey, Cloke, Elliot
Garlett, Waylen, Clark  😜

All those smaller players minus karny (because he isn't small) are midfielders. None are forwards and just because we have had a lack of small forwards since didak, doesn't mean we can stuff small mids into the pockets. Karny is being groomed as a tall mid and will probably play wing. Lumumba and ball out free up room for Kmart and JT in and hopefully Clint young doesn't play and we can play another mid.

Then everyone's happy, a dynamic forward line of actual forwards, a more settled backline (with Reid back there) and a midfield of up and comers.

Although the team will be very very very young
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Ricochet on September 17, 2014, 04:43:40 PM
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2014-09-17/speedy-blease-exits-dees

SAM Blease and Melbourne have agreed to part ways, with the 23-year-old seeking opportunities elsewhere after playing just two senior games in 2014.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Jroo on September 17, 2014, 04:50:41 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on September 17, 2014, 04:43:40 PM
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2014-09-17/speedy-blease-exits-dees

SAM Blease and Melbourne have agreed to part ways, with the 23-year-old seeking opportunities elsewhere after playing just two senior games in 2014.
I'd say he's a good chance of landing at Richmond.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: SydneyRox on September 17, 2014, 04:52:00 PM
Quote from: JROO8 on September 17, 2014, 04:50:41 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on September 17, 2014, 04:43:40 PM
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2014-09-17/speedy-blease-exits-dees

SAM Blease and Melbourne have agreed to part ways, with the 23-year-old seeking opportunities elsewhere after playing just two senior games in 2014.
I'd say he's a good chance of landing at Richmond.

Where all spuds go to die......

:P
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Mr.Craig on September 17, 2014, 04:55:04 PM
Quote from: Spite on September 17, 2014, 04:42:50 PM
Quote from: _wato on September 17, 2014, 04:11:39 PM
Please no to Garlett.. We already have an endless abundance of small fwd/mids, it does my scone in! I'd rather give game time to Karnezis/KMart/Thomas/BenKen etc than give him games. Good player but not disciplined enough - However it would be nice to have a 40+ goal a year kicker, something we have lacked (good small forwards)

Our forwardline would be essentially second rate when I compare it to others..

Sidebottom, Cloke, White
Garlett, Clark, Elliot

Seems like we're scraping out of the barrel when you look at Sydney/Hawthorn/Port Adelaide etc lolllll

Reads much better when you say;

Sidey, Cloke, Elliot
Garlett, Waylen, Clark  😜

All those smaller players minus karny (because he isn't small) are midfielders. None are forwards and just because we have had a lack of small forwards since didak, doesn't mean we can stuff small mids into the pockets. Karny is being groomed as a tall mid and will probably play wing. Lumumba and ball out free up room for Kmart and JT in and hopefully Clint young doesn't play and we can play another mid.

Then everyone's happy, a dynamic forward line of actual forwards, a more settled backline (with Reid back there) and a midfield of up and comers.

Although the team will be very very very young

Hey, where's Broomhead in all that!?
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Spite on September 17, 2014, 04:56:47 PM
Quote from: Mr.Craig on September 17, 2014, 04:55:04 PM
Quote from: Spite on September 17, 2014, 04:42:50 PM
Quote from: _wato on September 17, 2014, 04:11:39 PM
Please no to Garlett.. We already have an endless abundance of small fwd/mids, it does my scone in! I'd rather give game time to Karnezis/KMart/Thomas/BenKen etc than give him games. Good player but not disciplined enough - However it would be nice to have a 40+ goal a year kicker, something we have lacked (good small forwards)

Our forwardline would be essentially second rate when I compare it to others..

Sidebottom, Cloke, White
Garlett, Clark, Elliot

Seems like we're scraping out of the barrel when you look at Sydney/Hawthorn/Port Adelaide etc lolllll

Reads much better when you say;

Sidey, Cloke, Elliot
Garlett, Waylen, Clark  😜

All those smaller players minus karny (because he isn't small) are midfielders. None are forwards and just because we have had a lack of small forwards since didak, doesn't mean we can stuff small mids into the pockets. Karny is being groomed as a tall mid and will probably play wing. Lumumba and ball out free up room for Kmart and JT in and hopefully Clint young doesn't play and we can play another mid.

Then everyone's happy, a dynamic forward line of actual forwards, a more settled backline (with Reid back there) and a midfield of up and comers.

Although the team will be very very very young

Hey, where's Broomhead in all that!?

Replace broomhead with Sidey and Sidey may play hbf or you know, the wing where I forgot to mention him 😜
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Mat0369 on September 17, 2014, 04:57:27 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on September 17, 2014, 04:43:40 PM
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2014-09-17/speedy-blease-exits-dees

SAM Blease and Melbourne have agreed to part ways, with the 23-year-old seeking opportunities elsewhere after playing just two senior games in 2014.

At least that puts an end to the rumor of us trading for him.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Ricochet on September 17, 2014, 04:57:33 PM
Luke Tapscott has requested a trade to Carlton according to Triple M.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Rusty00 on September 17, 2014, 04:57:57 PM
Quote from: Sweetness on September 17, 2014, 04:04:34 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on September 17, 2014, 02:42:00 PM
Also

http://www.perthnow.com.au/sport/afl/fremantle-offer-james-frawley-3m-for-five-year-deal/story-fniv64vs-1227061568883

FREE agent James Frawley is considering a five-year contract worth $3 million to join Fremantle from next season.

Frawley, 26, next week, is considering a deal worth $600,000 a season from next year if he takes Fremantle's offer and walks out on Melbourne as an unrestricted free agent.


He's not worth that much surely?
Most free agents are not worth as much as they get ;)
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Toga on September 17, 2014, 04:58:31 PM
Interesting... Tappy showed a bit as a junior but hasn't done much since, could be a good get for Carlton if they can get his development right.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Ricochet on September 17, 2014, 04:59:53 PM
From 2014 AFL Offeason on twitter/facebook

Kristian Jaksch could be bound for the Western Bulldogs since the Dogs have become "confident" of luring the homesick key position forward/defender.
Jaksch, who grew up a Western Bulldogs supporter is set to accept a five-year deal from the Bulldogs according to 3AW.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Mat0369 on September 17, 2014, 05:07:26 PM
So replace Blease with Tapscott. I didn't mind Tapscott when he was drafted, he could be a Robbo replacement but not as good. I still wouldn't trade for him
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Nige on September 17, 2014, 05:19:13 PM
I can see us looking at Blease, I'm not sure where he fits in though. I don't actually see him being best 22.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Mr.Craig on September 17, 2014, 05:30:52 PM
So, are Carlton going to have 50 guys on field next year?
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Nige on September 17, 2014, 05:32:20 PM
Quote from: Mr.Craig on September 17, 2014, 05:30:52 PM
So, are Carlton going to have 50 guys on field next year?
Yes.  :P
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Mr.Craig on September 17, 2014, 05:34:51 PM
Quote from: Nige on September 17, 2014, 05:32:20 PM
Quote from: Mr.Craig on September 17, 2014, 05:30:52 PM
So, are Carlton going to have 50 guys on field next year?
Yes.  :P

But still lose?
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Jroo on September 17, 2014, 05:50:17 PM
Lol
@Robbo_heraldsun: twitter rumors abound from adelaide. 1. Coach gone. 2. Dangerfield's walked. 3. Drugs. 4. None of the above
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Nige on September 17, 2014, 05:56:58 PM
Quote from: JROO8 on September 17, 2014, 05:50:17 PM
Lol
@Robbo_heraldsun: twitter rumors abound from adelaide. 1. Coach gone. 2. Dangerfield's walked. 3. Drugs. 4. None of the above
Classic.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Jroo on September 17, 2014, 06:13:33 PM
Quote from: JROO8 on September 17, 2014, 05:50:17 PM
Lol
@Robbo_heraldsun: twitter rumors abound from adelaide. 1. Coach gone. 2. Dangerfield's walked. 3. Drugs. 4. None of the above
Looks as though it's #1.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Nige on September 17, 2014, 06:14:11 PM
Mark Ricciuto, come on down.  ;) :P
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Jroo on September 17, 2014, 06:21:45 PM
Yep so Sando sacked.
@GerardWhateley: Breaking: Brenton Sanderson has been sacked as coach of @Adelaide_FC
Not a massive surprise, tbh. Hasn't done much since they made the top four (with an easy draw  :P)
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Nige on September 17, 2014, 06:22:23 PM
Quote from: JROO8 on September 17, 2014, 06:21:45 PM
Yep so Sando sacked.
@GerardWhateley: Breaking: Brenton Sanderson has been sacked as coach of @Adelaide_FC
Not a massive surprise, tbh. Hasn't done much since they made the top four (with an easy draw  :P)
Did like Sando tbh.

Interested to see who replaces him.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: RaisyDaisy on September 17, 2014, 06:29:09 PM
WOW, this has really caught me by surprise

But in hindsight, I guess it shouldnt have?
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Spite on September 17, 2014, 06:30:34 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on September 17, 2014, 06:29:09 PM
WOW, this has really caught me by surprise

But in hindsight, I guess it shouldnt have?

Same here mate
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Mat0369 on September 17, 2014, 06:34:48 PM
Nah it is still surprising
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: meow meow on September 17, 2014, 06:42:45 PM
One of the main selling points of Dangerfield staying was because he liked the coach. Could be trouble on the horizon.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: henry on September 17, 2014, 06:43:38 PM
Yeah really surprised by that, didn't think he was under pressure at all, since I didn't rate the crows list that much and they finished about where I expected them, 8-11th.

Wouldn't be completely against robbo coming to hawthorn, but I would rather us play the likes of hallahan and woodward instead.

If Ryder goes to the swans that's ridiculous - surely that's toungue in cheek lol.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Big Mac on September 17, 2014, 06:58:37 PM
Quote from: meow meow on September 17, 2014, 06:42:45 PM
One of the main selling points of Dangerfield staying was because he liked the coach. Could be trouble on the horizon.

Have heard rumours of Picks 2, 3 and Toumpas for Dangerfield + pick 9
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Mr.Craig on September 17, 2014, 07:01:22 PM
That would certainly shake up the trade period.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: JBs-Hawks on September 17, 2014, 07:06:04 PM
Schoenmakers and Hawks first pick for Danger :P
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Mr.Craig on September 17, 2014, 07:10:59 PM
Quote from: JBs-Hawks on September 17, 2014, 07:06:04 PM
Schoenmakers and Hawks first pick for Danger :P

Considering what we gave up for Big Boy I think that's wishful thinking.

But I wish it too.  ;)
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: JBs-Hawks on September 17, 2014, 07:14:13 PM
Quote from: Mr.Craig on September 17, 2014, 07:10:59 PM
Quote from: JBs-Hawks on September 17, 2014, 07:06:04 PM
Schoenmakers and Hawks first pick for Danger :P

Considering what we gave up for Big Boy I think that's wishful thinking.

But I wish it too.  ;)

We can chuck in Simpkin as a sweetener :p
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: meow meow on September 17, 2014, 07:15:53 PM
Dangerfield to the Swans!
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: SydneyRox on September 17, 2014, 07:31:53 PM
Quote from: meow meow on September 17, 2014, 07:15:53 PM
Dangerfield to the Swans!

ssshhhhhhhh  :-X

Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: nrich102 on September 17, 2014, 08:29:37 PM
The lions have some room in the cap... Shame Green, Zorks and Squizzy are all better than Dangerfield.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Jay on September 17, 2014, 08:32:09 PM
Quote from: meow meow on September 17, 2014, 06:42:45 PM
One of the main selling points of Dangerfield staying was because he liked the coach. Could be trouble on the horizon.
Dangerfield was the one who wanted Sando gone, and now he's got what he wants, he'll re-sign.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Ziplock on September 17, 2014, 08:44:20 PM
Quote from: henry on September 17, 2014, 06:43:38 PM
Yeah really surprised by that, didn't think he was under pressure at all, since I didn't rate the crows list that much and they finished about where I expected them, 8-11th.

Wouldn't be completely against robbo coming to hawthorn, but I would rather us play the likes of hallahan and woodward instead.

If Ryder goes to the swans that's ridiculous - surely that's toungue in cheek lol.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Pkbaldy on September 17, 2014, 08:49:37 PM
Quote from: nrich102 on September 17, 2014, 08:29:37 PM
The lions have some room in the cap... Shame Green, Zorks and Squizzy are all better than Dangerfield.

Calm ya farm!
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Dudge on September 17, 2014, 08:59:09 PM
Quote from: Jayman on September 17, 2014, 08:32:09 PM
Quote from: meow meow on September 17, 2014, 06:42:45 PM
One of the main selling points of Dangerfield staying was because he liked the coach. Could be trouble on the horizon.
Dangerfield was the one who wanted Sando gone, and now he's got what he wants, he'll re-sign.

that's  a sad state of affairs if true
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Sweetness on September 17, 2014, 08:59:56 PM
Quote from: Dudge on September 17, 2014, 08:59:09 PM
Quote from: Jayman on September 17, 2014, 08:32:09 PM
Quote from: meow meow on September 17, 2014, 06:42:45 PM
One of the main selling points of Dangerfield staying was because he liked the coach. Could be trouble on the horizon.
Dangerfield was the one who wanted Sando gone, and now he's got what he wants, he'll re-sign.

that's  a sad state of affairs if true

I thought Danger got on well with Sando...
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Spite on September 17, 2014, 09:00:53 PM
Quote from: Sweetness on September 17, 2014, 08:59:56 PM
Quote from: Dudge on September 17, 2014, 08:59:09 PM
Quote from: Jayman on September 17, 2014, 08:32:09 PM
Quote from: meow meow on September 17, 2014, 06:42:45 PM
One of the main selling points of Dangerfield staying was because he liked the coach. Could be trouble on the horizon.
Dangerfield was the one who wanted Sando gone, and now he's got what he wants, he'll re-sign.

that's  a sad state of affairs if true

I thought Danger got on well with Sando...

Yeah pretty sure they got on?
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Jay on September 17, 2014, 09:05:26 PM
Quote from: Spite on September 17, 2014, 09:00:53 PM
Quote from: Sweetness on September 17, 2014, 08:59:56 PM
Quote from: Dudge on September 17, 2014, 08:59:09 PM
Quote from: Jayman on September 17, 2014, 08:32:09 PM
Quote from: meow meow on September 17, 2014, 06:42:45 PM
One of the main selling points of Dangerfield staying was because he liked the coach. Could be trouble on the horizon.
Dangerfield was the one who wanted Sando gone, and now he's got what he wants, he'll re-sign.

that's  a sad state of affairs if true

I thought Danger got on well with Sando...

Yeah pretty sure they got on?
Yeah I thought they did too, but that is what has been floating around over here. And it wouldn't surprise me at all.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: elephants on September 17, 2014, 09:25:13 PM
Sooo no player is bigger than the club doesn't apply to the Crows? Boy, that's kinda sad.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Jay on September 17, 2014, 09:26:59 PM
Quote from: elephants on September 17, 2014, 09:25:13 PM
Sooo no player is bigger than the club doesn't apply to the Crows? Boy, that's kinda sad.
Agreed.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: meow meow on September 17, 2014, 09:27:32 PM
Quote from: Jayman on September 17, 2014, 08:32:09 PM
Quote from: meow meow on September 17, 2014, 06:42:45 PM
One of the main selling points of Dangerfield staying was because he liked the coach. Could be trouble on the horizon.
Dangerfield was the one who wanted Sando gone, and now he's got what he wants, he'll re-sign.

Apparently it was Tex. Maybe both.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Jay on September 17, 2014, 09:29:59 PM
Quote from: meow meow on September 17, 2014, 09:27:32 PM
Quote from: Jayman on September 17, 2014, 08:32:09 PM
Quote from: meow meow on September 17, 2014, 06:42:45 PM
One of the main selling points of Dangerfield staying was because he liked the coach. Could be trouble on the horizon.
Dangerfield was the one who wanted Sando gone, and now he's got what he wants, he'll re-sign.

Apparently it was Tex. Maybe both.
Haha and Tex is going to be poached by the Power ::)
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Nige on September 17, 2014, 09:33:59 PM
Quote from: Jayman on September 17, 2014, 09:29:59 PM
Quote from: meow meow on September 17, 2014, 09:27:32 PM
Quote from: Jayman on September 17, 2014, 08:32:09 PM
Quote from: meow meow on September 17, 2014, 06:42:45 PM
One of the main selling points of Dangerfield staying was because he liked the coach. Could be trouble on the horizon.
Dangerfield was the one who wanted Sando gone, and now he's got what he wants, he'll re-sign.

Apparently it was Tex. Maybe both.
Haha and Tex is going to be poached by the Power ::)
So Danger to either the Cats or Tiges and Tex to the Power? You can have Todd Elton and Matt Thomas.  ;)
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: meow meow on September 17, 2014, 09:40:15 PM
Chairman Rob Chapman, directors Andrew Payze and Mark Ricciuto, head of football David Noble and Sanderson were involved in the post-season analysis, which came after players, including key forward Taylor Walker, reportedly criticised the coach and some of his assistants in their exit interviews.

http://www.afl.com.au/news/2014-09-17/sanderson
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Jay on September 17, 2014, 09:41:23 PM
Quote from: meow meow on September 17, 2014, 09:40:15 PM
Chairman Rob Chapman, directors Andrew Payze and Mark Ricciuto, head of football David Noble and Sanderson were involved in the post-season analysis, which came after players, including key forward Taylor Walker, reportedly criticised the coach and some of his assistants in their exit interviews.

http://www.afl.com.au/news/2014-09-17/sanderson
Ricciuto best mates with Goodwin, done deal. It was a crap season, not surprised some of the senior guys turned on Sando.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: JBs-Hawks on September 17, 2014, 09:55:25 PM
Tex just jealous that Sando could out bench him.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: SydneyRox on September 17, 2014, 10:27:49 PM
Quote from: meow meow on September 17, 2014, 07:15:53 PM
Dangerfield to the Swans!

S'pose  he could get a game in the NEAFL for us?

Straight swap for ROK
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Sweetness on September 17, 2014, 11:13:09 PM
Quote from: JBs-Hawks on September 17, 2014, 09:55:25 PM
Tex just jealous that Sando could out bench him.

He does have a serious chest.
Reckon he might end up at Collingwood with good mate Bucks.

Very interested to see who gets the top gig.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Nige on September 17, 2014, 11:29:23 PM
Dayne Beams has rejected an offer to head to Brisbane, and is in talks to renew his contact beyond 2015.

1116 SEN have reported that Beams has just built a house in Melbourne, has settled down with his girlfriend and his mother too, has moved to Melbourne.

It comes as earlier reports suggested that the Lions would not be trading their pick 4 in the national draft.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Ringo on September 18, 2014, 09:02:33 AM
Interesting too that his brother is only signed to 2015 and with family moving to Melbourne will Claye be a target at end of next season for some clubs.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Spite on September 18, 2014, 10:41:51 AM
Quote from: Ringo on September 18, 2014, 09:02:33 AM
Interesting too that his brother is only signed to 2015 and with family moving to Melbourne will Claye be a target at end of next season for some clubs.

That awkward moment when Collingwood chase Claye
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Ricochet on September 18, 2014, 10:51:44 AM
Rob Chapman: "I'll pre-empt the next question, is this the opportunity to sign Dangerfield Walker & Sloane? There's no guarantee they will sign"
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: JBs-Hawks on September 18, 2014, 11:01:43 AM
Goodes to retire,  Ryder to Swans.

Surely taking the piss!
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Ricochet on September 18, 2014, 11:02:14 AM
RUCKMAN Jonathan Giles is seeking a trade from Greater Western Sydney after struggling for opportunities behind Shane Mumford in 2014

http://www.afl.com.au/news/2014-09-18/giant-wants-out
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Nige on September 18, 2014, 11:04:07 AM
Quote from: Ricochet on September 18, 2014, 11:02:14 AM
RUCKMAN Jonathan Giles is seeking a trade from Greater Western Sydney after struggling for opportunities behind Shane Mumford in 2014

http://www.afl.com.au/news/2014-09-18/giant-wants-out
Saw this coming tbh, means Rory Lobb will get more of a go now.

Likely to go back to SA, whether it be the Crows or Power (both could definitely use him).

Edit: Just read saying that he'll go anywhere in a bid to reignite his career. I still think he'll end up at one of the SA clubs and Gorringe will go to the other.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Mailman the 2nd on September 18, 2014, 11:08:19 AM
Coughsendgilesandrydertosydneycough
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Nige on September 18, 2014, 11:11:42 AM
Quote from: Mailman the 2nd on September 18, 2014, 11:08:19 AM
Coughsendgilesandrydertosydneycough
Oh, didn't you hear?

Every player is going to the Swans.

The SSFL where all 18 clubs are the Swans and they just play each other.  :P
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Toga on September 18, 2014, 11:13:43 AM
Surely the Bulldogs and Blues would have a good look at Jon?
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Mailman the 2nd on September 18, 2014, 11:13:51 AM
Sounds like an improvement to me ;)
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Nige on September 18, 2014, 11:15:15 AM
Quote from: Mailman the 2nd on September 18, 2014, 11:13:51 AM
Sounds like an improvement to me ;)
Sydney should get promoted to the EPL where they can use their billions to buy Messi and Ronaldo and park them up forward with Buddy, Tippett and friends.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Ricochet on September 18, 2014, 11:40:23 AM
Well Goodwin has signed on at Melbourne. Press Conference at 12:30
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Nige on September 18, 2014, 12:38:55 PM
Not sure whether this was already posted or not but...

Fremantle have also entered the race to secure free agent, Jarrad Waite's signature, since he too held discussions with the Dockers management during the week.

Waite has been offered a one-year contract extension by the Blues, whilst North Melbourne have tabled a one year deal, with an activation clause for a second year should he play 16 games in 2015.

Waite has already told the Dockers that he will only move interstate for a two-year deal.

Source: Herald Sun
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Tominator on September 18, 2014, 12:46:55 PM
I cannot understand Sanderson's sacking. They should have said "you have a year to turn this around" which would have kicked them into gear. Mark Ricciuto has blood on his hands and so do the board. If it is a player revolt that has forced their hand, that's very disappointing. IMO Crows players always seem to have a mentality that good things will come to them, without having to work hard; that they think they're better than they really are. The fishbowl media environment in Adelaide that constantly pumps them up doesn't help either.

But in the last few years, Crows have had a lot go wrong that hasn't been Sando's fault.

We lost Gunston, Davis, Bock and Tippett to other clubs - four very good KPPs. We've lost Taylor Walker to an ACL which affected all of 2013, and in 2014 he was below-par because he needs a solid pre-season under his belt.  We had no first-round draft picks for two years cos of the Tippett saga. Despite this we still jagged the Crouch brothers. And Sando had no senior assistant for the best part of 2 years - Dean Bailey was suspended in 2013 then died before the 2014 season.

We may have lost games we should have won; we may have underachieved, but to have all that happen and only just miss out on finals two years in a row is not the end of the world. It's not like we were competing for the wooden spoon.

It's easy to forget we have one of the youngest lists in the comp, and to get within a kick of the GF in 2012 was no mean feat. We could really have mounted something next season if we played to our best.

Clearly there are in-house dramas going on as well though.. But with Bomber and Goodwin off the table I really don't know where the next choice will come from.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: SydneyRox on September 18, 2014, 01:06:21 PM
Quote from: JBs-Hawks on September 18, 2014, 11:01:43 AM
Goodes to retire,  Ryder to Swans.

Surely taking the piss!

:-*
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Mr.Craig on September 18, 2014, 01:35:07 PM
Quote from: Nige on September 18, 2014, 11:15:15 AM
Quote from: Mailman the 2nd on September 18, 2014, 11:13:51 AM
Sounds like an improvement to me ;)
Sydney should get promoted to the EPL where they can use their billions to buy Messi and Ronaldo and park them up forward with Buddy, Tippett and friends.

They will start their own sport called "Sydneyball" and win the premiership every year as the only team.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: meow meow on September 18, 2014, 01:39:36 PM
Quote from: SydneyRox on September 18, 2014, 01:06:21 PM
Quote from: JBs-Hawks on September 18, 2014, 11:01:43 AM
Goodes to retire,  Ryder to Swans.

Surely taking the piss!

:-*

Malceski is headed west by all reports so that should free up some Paddy money

Quote from: Toga on September 18, 2014, 11:13:43 AM
Surely the Bulldogs and Blues would have a good look at Jon?

Would like him. Would give up pick 6 for Giles, Jaksch and their end of round 1 compensation pick that they have. KPF forward problem solved in one hit.

Quote from: Ringo on September 18, 2014, 09:02:33 AM
Interesting too that his brother is only signed to 2015 and with family moving to Melbourne will Claye be a target at end of next season for some clubs.

He's only signed on for one year because he's actually not very good and doesn't deserve a long contract.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: SydneyRox on September 18, 2014, 03:01:56 PM
Quote from: meow meow on September 18, 2014, 01:39:36 PM
Quote from: SydneyRox on September 18, 2014, 01:06:21 PM
Quote from: JBs-Hawks on September 18, 2014, 11:01:43 AM
Goodes to retire,  Ryder to Swans.

Surely taking the piss!

:-*

Malceski is headed west by all reports so that should free up some Paddy money





The sticking point with Eski is apparantly the 3rd year. Swans offering 2 he wants 3.

Cant see many clubs offering him (he just turned 30) a 3yr deal?

No guarantees he leaves yet.

Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: meow meow on September 18, 2014, 03:17:49 PM
There have been a few rumblings in recent days that Carlton ruckman Matthew Kreuzer could be on his way to Collingwood.

Source: MMM
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Spite on September 18, 2014, 03:21:18 PM
Quote from: meow meow on September 18, 2014, 03:17:49 PM
There have been a few rumblings in recent days that Carlton ruckman Matthew Kreuzer could be on his way to Collingwood.

Source: MMM

That was squashed by a few people man and even the herald sun today said it's not true
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Toga on September 18, 2014, 04:20:46 PM
That would be a big move but can't see it happening, the Blues have invested so much in him
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Ricochet on September 19, 2014, 09:50:22 AM
From 2014 AFL Offeason on twitter/facebook

- Adelaide's Patrick Dangerfield has said rumours about him leaving the Crows are 'ridiculous', Dangerfield has said he only met Hawthorn coach Alistair Clarkson to talk about "pumping up" the international rules series.

- Carlton football manager Andrew McKay has confirmed the club's interest in Sydney's Tom Mitchell.

- Jon Ralph is reporting Guy McKenna is safe but only for tonight. On notice and reviews to come. Might not last the summer.

- Damien Barrett has reported on last nights footy show that Paddy Ryder met earlier in the week with James Hird, telling the Essendon coach that he will not be at the club in 2015, using the words "deal with it" in what is arguably going to be a very messy split between the Ryder camp and Essendon.
It is understood that he wishes to activate a AFLPA implemented clause that allows Essendon players to move freely to a club of their choice as a delisted free agent despite whether or not he is contracted.




Not much new there
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Nige on September 19, 2014, 09:57:38 AM
So Danger is leaving.  :P
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: SydneyRox on September 19, 2014, 01:52:33 PM
Quote from: Spite on September 18, 2014, 03:21:18 PM
Quote from: meow meow on September 18, 2014, 03:17:49 PM
There have been a few rumblings in recent days that Carlton ruckman Matthew Kreuzer could be on his way to Collingwood.

Source: MMM

That was squashed by a few people man and even the herald sun today said it's not true

How much would the blues give up for Mitchell??
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Capper on September 19, 2014, 02:53:28 PM
Quote from: Nige on September 18, 2014, 11:15:15 AM
Quote from: Mailman the 2nd on September 18, 2014, 11:13:51 AM
Sounds like an improvement to me ;)
Sydney should get promoted to the EPL where they can use their billions to buy Messi and Ronaldo and park them up forward with Buddy, Tippett and friends.
Dont forget Suarez as he is good with his hands
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: stew42 on September 19, 2014, 03:37:43 PM
Quote from: SydneyRox on September 19, 2014, 01:52:33 PM
Quote from: Spite on September 18, 2014, 03:21:18 PM
Quote from: meow meow on September 18, 2014, 03:17:49 PM
There have been a few rumblings in recent days that Carlton ruckman Matthew Kreuzer could be on his way to Collingwood.

Source: MMM

That was squashed by a few people man and even the herald sun today said it's not true

How much would the blues give up for Mitchell??
Would we take Kreuz and a 1st/2nd round draft pick?
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: SydneyRox on September 19, 2014, 04:02:08 PM
Quote from: stew42 on September 19, 2014, 03:37:43 PM
Quote from: SydneyRox on September 19, 2014, 01:52:33 PM
Quote from: Spite on September 18, 2014, 03:21:18 PM
Quote from: meow meow on September 18, 2014, 03:17:49 PM
There have been a few rumblings in recent days that Carlton ruckman Matthew Kreuzer could be on his way to Collingwood.

Source: MMM

That was squashed by a few people man and even the herald sun today said it's not true

How much would the blues give up for Mitchell??
Would we take Kreuz and a 1st/2nd round draft pick?

I hope he stays, but you could really push for a good deal the way the Blues keep salivating.

How about.

Kruezer + 1st Round

Mitch + 2nd round

Only real issue I would think is we would have to use the higher pick on Heeney rather than use 16 on Heeney and 6 on someone else good!
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: kilbluff1985 on September 19, 2014, 04:06:17 PM
why would you even want Kruezer
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Mailman the 2nd on September 19, 2014, 04:07:11 PM
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on September 19, 2014, 04:06:17 PM
why would you even want Kruezer

Because we only have 1 decent ruckman, same reason we'd be interested in Giles and Ryder?
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Jroo on September 19, 2014, 04:09:10 PM
No chance Kreuzer will leave/Blues will trade him.
Swans definitely a chance for Paddy though.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: kilbluff1985 on September 19, 2014, 04:09:46 PM
Quote from: Mailman the 2nd on September 19, 2014, 04:07:11 PM
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on September 19, 2014, 04:06:17 PM
why would you even want Kruezer

Because we only have 1 decent ruckman, same reason we'd be interested in Giles and Ryder?

Kruezer is way to injury pron though, Ryder i can understand
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Mat0369 on September 19, 2014, 04:16:00 PM
Umm if Sydney wanted Kreuz they would have to be sending a 1st not Carlton
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: _wato on September 19, 2014, 04:25:00 PM
Quote from: Mat0369 on September 19, 2014, 04:16:00 PM
Umm if Sydney wanted Kreuz they would have to be sending a 1st not Carlton

Yeah agree, Swans would be sending the first round pick and Carlton the second, think you're all over estimating Mitchell's current value against Kreuzers

Would Carlton be happy with Krezuer traded for Mitchell and say pick 30-40?
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Mat0369 on September 19, 2014, 04:42:33 PM
Let's put it this way, if we could get a 2nd round pick for Hampson, Kreuzer is worth a hell of a lot more, regardless of injuries. Also slow mids are a dime a dozen, Sydney are not going to get as much as they think they can for him if he does want to leave considering how much money is on that contract. While he is contracted and will stay if a trade is not met, a 2nd round pick and a solid player seems about right. That is probably why Robbos name was mentioned.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Mailman the 2nd on September 19, 2014, 05:14:20 PM
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on September 19, 2014, 04:09:46 PM
Quote from: Mailman the 2nd on September 19, 2014, 04:07:11 PM
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on September 19, 2014, 04:06:17 PM
why would you even want Kruezer

Because we only have 1 decent ruckman, same reason we'd be interested in Giles and Ryder?

Kruezer is way to injury pron though, Ryder i can understand

Yeah personally I wouldn't want Kreuzer over Ryder either. Giles comes pretty cheap too.


Quote from: Mat0369 on September 19, 2014, 04:42:33 PM
Let's put it this way, if we could get a 2nd round pick for Hampson, Kreuzer is worth a hell of a lot more, regardless of injuries. Also slow mids are a dime a dozen, Sydney are not going to get as much as they think they can for him if he does want to leave considering how much money is on that contract. While he is contracted and will stay if a trade is not met, a 2nd round pick and a solid player seems about right. That is probably why Robbos name was mentioned.

This isn't Richmond offering for Hampson, the ball is completely in Sydney's court, Carlton doesn't have much room to dictate how they can get him.

Mitchell isn't just a dime a dozen "slow mid" anyway. He's a ready made 21 year old inside midfielder. He was worth a early first round pick when he got drafted and if anything he's done more than justify that
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Jroo on September 19, 2014, 06:14:22 PM
Sydney's Tim Membrey has been targeted by multiple Victorian clubs according to SEN, Membrey is currently out of contract at the end of the season.

https://m.facebook.com/AFLSeasonAndOffSeasonNews/posts/354022644771970
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Spite on September 19, 2014, 07:00:25 PM
Quote from: JROO8 on September 19, 2014, 06:14:22 PM
Sydney's Tim Membrey has been targeted by multiple Victorian clubs according to SEN, Membrey is currently out of contract at the end of the season.

https://m.facebook.com/AFLSeasonAndOffSeasonNews/posts/354022644771970

Anyone who wants him would probably need to trade Sydney a first round pick for him  ;D
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Nige on September 19, 2014, 07:01:59 PM
Quote from: Spite on September 19, 2014, 07:00:25 PM
Quote from: JROO8 on September 19, 2014, 06:14:22 PM
Sydney's Tim Membrey has been targeted by multiple Victorian clubs according to SEN, Membrey is currently out of contract at the end of the season.

https://m.facebook.com/AFLSeasonAndOffSeasonNews/posts/354022644771970

Anyone who wants him would probably need to trade Sydney a first round pick for him  ;D
No, they'd have to trade their best 3 players.  ::)
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Mailman the 2nd on September 19, 2014, 07:11:28 PM
3rd round probably, Would've been early 2nd if we had played him more
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: kilbluff1985 on September 19, 2014, 07:38:45 PM
all over facebook that Ryder has requested a trade :'(
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: SydneyRox on September 19, 2014, 07:42:59 PM
Quote from: Nige on September 19, 2014, 07:01:59 PM
Quote from: Spite on September 19, 2014, 07:00:25 PM
Quote from: JROO8 on September 19, 2014, 06:14:22 PM
Sydney's Tim Membrey has been targeted by multiple Victorian clubs according to SEN, Membrey is currently out of contract at the end of the season.

https://m.facebook.com/AFLSeasonAndOffSeasonNews/posts/354022644771970

Anyone who wants him would probably need to trade Sydney a first round pick for him  ;D
No, they'd have to trade their best 3 players.  ::)
Quote from: Spite on September 19, 2014, 07:00:25 PM
Quote from: JROO8 on September 19, 2014, 06:14:22 PM
Sydney's Tim Membrey has been targeted by multiple Victorian clubs according to SEN, Membrey is currently out of contract at the end of the season.

https://m.facebook.com/AFLSeasonAndOffSeasonNews/posts/354022644771970

Anyone who wants him would probably need to trade Sydney a first round pick for him  ;D


The jealous colour doenst suit you boys.  8)

A good 2nd or 3rd round will more likely be enough.

Sydney cant help it if we have so much depth, that players in our NEAFL side will be best 22 for most other clubs

Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Mailman the 2nd on September 19, 2014, 07:47:03 PM
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on September 19, 2014, 07:38:45 PM
all over facebook that Ryder has requested a trade :'(

Media keeps saying it too, probably would have to wait for Ryder to make a statement first
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Jroo on September 19, 2014, 07:59:21 PM
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on September 19, 2014, 07:38:45 PM
all over facebook that Ryder has requested a trade :'(
Yep Ryder is gone.
@FOXSportsNews: Reports @EssendonFC ruckman Paddy Ryder has formally requested a trade from the club #AFL
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Nige on September 19, 2014, 08:23:37 PM
Damien Barrett has reported that Fremantle have now tabled a whopping seven-year deal to free agent James Frawley on what is believed to be worth $3 million.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Ringo on September 19, 2014, 08:38:36 PM
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2014-09-19/ryder-quits-bombers

Confirmation that Ryder has requested a trade
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Southstorm on September 19, 2014, 08:48:11 PM
I can only sit back and shudder at what we're going to receive in return for one of our best players.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Mailman the 2nd on September 19, 2014, 09:12:03 PM
Quote from: Southstorm on September 19, 2014, 08:48:11 PM
I can only sit back and shudder at what we're going to receive in return for one of our best players.

It'll be better than a lot of clubs got for their great players
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Tominator on September 19, 2014, 09:17:02 PM
Jon Ralph said what's widely been reported already

The three main contenders are Port, Brisbane and GWS. Sydney have ruled themselves out apparently - surprising giving their current stocks of tall players!
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Purple 77 on September 19, 2014, 09:39:56 PM
Quote from: Nige on September 19, 2014, 08:23:37 PM
Damien Barrett has reported that Fremantle have now tabled a whopping seven-year deal to free agent James Frawley on what is believed to be worth $3 million.

Damn, if they want him that bad then bloomin take him  :P
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Big Mac on September 19, 2014, 09:44:32 PM
Quote from: Purple 77 on September 19, 2014, 09:39:56 PM
Quote from: Nige on September 19, 2014, 08:23:37 PM
Damien Barrett has reported that Fremantle have now tabled a whopping seven-year deal to free agent James Frawley on what is believed to be worth $3 million.

Damn, if they want him that bad then bloomin take him  :P
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Mailman the 2nd on September 19, 2014, 10:01:40 PM
Yeah idk what Freo are thinking there.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Nige on September 19, 2014, 10:02:37 PM
West Coast have thrown their hat into the ring, to lure home WA native, and current disgruntled Magpie, Heritier Lumumba. It is understood that Lumumba will return from Perth later next week, where he will hold a meeting with Collingwood and inform the club of his decision.

Melbourne also believe they will snare the 199-gamer, with Lumumba settled in Melbourne.

Either way, Lumumba will link up with a former premiership teammate - Sharrod Wellingham at the Eagles or Chris Dawes at the Dees.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: JBs-Hawks on September 19, 2014, 10:02:46 PM
Sylvia needs a mate in the WAFL
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: nrich102 on September 19, 2014, 10:02:47 PM
Ross Lyon is mad
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: elephants on September 19, 2014, 10:22:01 PM
Quote from: Nige on September 19, 2014, 10:02:37 PM
West Coast have thrown their hat into the ring, to lure home WA native, and current disgruntled Magpie, Heritier Lumumba. It is understood that Lumumba will return from Perth later next week, where he will hold a meeting with Collingwood and inform the club of his decision.

Melbourne also believe they will snare the 199-gamer, with Lumumba settled in Melbourne.

Either way, Lumumba will link up with a former premiership teammate - Sharrod Wellingham at the Eagles or Chris Dawes at the Dees.

West Coast, pls.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: LF on September 19, 2014, 10:25:33 PM
Quote from: elephants on September 19, 2014, 10:22:01 PM
Quote from: Nige on September 19, 2014, 10:02:37 PM
West Coast have thrown their hat into the ring, to lure home WA native, and current disgruntled Magpie, Heritier Lumumba. It is understood that Lumumba will return from Perth later next week, where he will hold a meeting with Collingwood and inform the club of his decision.

Melbourne also believe they will snare the 199-gamer, with Lumumba settled in Melbourne.

Either way, Lumumba will link up with a former premiership teammate - Sharrod Wellingham at the Eagles or Chris Dawes at the Dees.

West Coast, pls.

Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: SydneyRox on September 20, 2014, 12:46:59 AM
harry would be a good fit at WC. you would think
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: elephants on September 20, 2014, 12:55:11 AM
Quote from: SydneyRox on September 20, 2014, 12:46:59 AM
harry would be a good fit at WC. you would think

Poor kick, exposable defensively, self-centred and immensely over-sensitive. Seriously polarising figure, not something we need at all.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Vinny on September 20, 2014, 12:59:52 AM
Tom Mitchell, yes pls.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Capper on September 20, 2014, 02:09:25 AM
Quote from: SydneyRox on September 19, 2014, 07:42:59 PM
Quote from: Nige on September 19, 2014, 07:01:59 PM
Quote from: Spite on September 19, 2014, 07:00:25 PM
Quote from: JROO8 on September 19, 2014, 06:14:22 PM
Sydney's Tim Membrey has been targeted by multiple Victorian clubs according to SEN, Membrey is currently out of contract at the end of the season.

https://m.facebook.com/AFLSeasonAndOffSeasonNews/posts/354022644771970

Anyone who wants him would probably need to trade Sydney a first round pick for him  ;D
No, they'd have to trade their best 3 players.  ::)
Quote from: Spite on September 19, 2014, 07:00:25 PM
Quote from: JROO8 on September 19, 2014, 06:14:22 PM
Sydney's Tim Membrey has been targeted by multiple Victorian clubs according to SEN, Membrey is currently out of contract at the end of the season.

https://m.facebook.com/AFLSeasonAndOffSeasonNews/posts/354022644771970

Anyone who wants him would probably need to trade Sydney a first round pick for him  ;D


The jealous colour doenst suit you boys.  8)

A good 2nd or 3rd round will more likely be enough.

Sydney cant help it if we have so much depth, that players in our NEAFL side will be best 22 for most other clubs
Dear any Swans player going to another team for more game time,

Please talk to LAmb

Regards
Swans Supporters
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: SydneyRox on September 20, 2014, 09:30:52 AM
If Jed isnt available, please contact Jessie White @ the VFL
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Ricochet on September 20, 2014, 09:40:05 AM
Swans players get games at Sydney and can't at other clubs but Sydney > other clubs. ... #logic
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Sweetness on September 20, 2014, 09:43:42 AM
Quote from: Ricochet on September 20, 2014, 09:40:05 AM
Swans players get games at Sydney and can't at other clubs but Sydney > other clubs. ... #logic

Puzzling indeed..
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: _wato on September 20, 2014, 11:29:07 AM
1116 SEN are reporting that Titch is supposedly meeting with Carlton a week after the Grand Final to have a talk with Carlton.

Carlton has already been in talks with his parents, reported yesterday. Carlton are understood to also be willing to part ways with their first round selection, #6 in the 2014 National Draft.

Talk about paying overs.. Lol
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Nige on September 20, 2014, 11:31:27 AM
Sydney must be laughing.

Pick 6 and Heeney? Holy shower.

Or if they really wanted they could trade Essendon pick 6 for Ryder since Essendon don't have a first round pick.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Mailman the 2nd on September 20, 2014, 12:10:57 PM
Still would rather keep Mitchell
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: henry on September 20, 2014, 12:23:09 PM
Quote from: Mailman the 2nd on September 20, 2014, 12:10:57 PM
Still would rather keep Mitchell
Than have pick 6? :o.

That's massive overs.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Toga on September 20, 2014, 12:31:09 PM
But if they get pick 6 they would have to use that on Heeney though wouldn't they? ???
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Big Mac on September 20, 2014, 12:34:42 PM
Quote from: Toga on September 20, 2014, 12:31:09 PM
But if they get pick 6 they would have to use that on Heeney though wouldn't they? ???

Nah i'm pretty sure the F/S and academy selections are sorted out before the trade period starts
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Nige on September 20, 2014, 12:38:05 PM
Quote from: Big  Mac on September 20, 2014, 12:34:42 PM
Quote from: Toga on September 20, 2014, 12:31:09 PM
But if they get pick 6 they would have to use that on Heeney though wouldn't they? ???

Nah i'm pretty sure the F/S and academy selections are sorted out before the trade period starts
I think they can still take him with 18. Not sure on the rules there.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: _wato on September 20, 2014, 12:42:53 PM
Spot on lads, I think it does all happen before the trade period starts so any selection that Sydney get before #18 through the trade period I suppose they can choose on whoever they like. Same with Collingwood - they'll lock in Moore at #8 but if we were to trade and gain a selection higher, we wouldn't have to use it on him.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Mailman the 2nd on September 20, 2014, 12:58:53 PM
Quote from: henry on September 20, 2014, 12:23:09 PM
Quote from: Mailman the 2nd on September 20, 2014, 12:10:57 PM
Still would rather keep Mitchell
Than have pick 6? :o.

That's massive overs.

That's what he was worth when he was drafted, hasn't changed either
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Spite on September 20, 2014, 02:18:22 PM
Win win for both clubs, Carlton get a good young gun mid and swans get a nice pick and free up salary cap room at the same time. Better to have more money on the field than playing in the reserves
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Vinny on September 20, 2014, 02:55:51 PM
T.Mitchell + T.Membrey for Pick 6 and 4th rounder? Sure, done deal.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Capper on September 20, 2014, 03:07:58 PM
as i said on chat

membrey linked to dogs, suns and lions
Titch linked to Blues, Eagles and dees
im hearing lumumba to Swans or Giants
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Mailman the 2nd on September 20, 2014, 03:30:02 PM
Quote from: Vinny on September 20, 2014, 02:55:51 PM
T.Mitchell + T.Membrey for Pick 6 and 4th rounder? Sure, done deal.

Doesn't sound like Carlton are interested in membrey
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: _wato on September 20, 2014, 03:32:08 PM
Lumumba to Swans? Interesting.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Vinny on September 20, 2014, 03:33:34 PM
Quote from: Mailman the 2nd on September 20, 2014, 03:30:02 PM
Quote from: Vinny on September 20, 2014, 02:55:51 PM
T.Mitchell + T.Membrey for Pick 6 and 4th rounder? Sure, done deal.

Doesn't sound like Carlton are interested in membrey
Haha yeah, heard nothing but think he would help us.

Oh well, one is enough. :P
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Mailman the 2nd on September 20, 2014, 03:35:03 PM
Quote from: Vinny on September 20, 2014, 03:33:34 PM
Quote from: Mailman the 2nd on September 20, 2014, 03:30:02 PM
Quote from: Vinny on September 20, 2014, 02:55:51 PM
T.Mitchell + T.Membrey for Pick 6 and 4th rounder? Sure, done deal.

Doesn't sound like Carlton are interested in membrey
Haha yeah, heard nothing but think he would help us.

Oh well, one is enough. :P

How about you take Membrey and we'll leave it at that  ;)
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Vinny on September 20, 2014, 03:53:27 PM
Quote from: Mailman the 2nd on September 20, 2014, 03:35:03 PM
Quote from: Vinny on September 20, 2014, 03:33:34 PM
Quote from: Mailman the 2nd on September 20, 2014, 03:30:02 PM
Quote from: Vinny on September 20, 2014, 02:55:51 PM
T.Mitchell + T.Membrey for Pick 6 and 4th rounder? Sure, done deal.

Doesn't sound like Carlton are interested in membrey
Haha yeah, heard nothing but think he would help us.

Oh well, one is enough. :P

How about you take Membrey and we'll leave it at that  ;)
Nah, we will take TMitch thanks. You can have Kane Lucas if ya like cause we are good lads at Carlton :P
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Mat0369 on September 20, 2014, 05:04:18 PM
Straight swap though Vin
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Mailman the 2nd on September 20, 2014, 05:16:14 PM
We'll give you our last pick in the rookie draft for Lucas
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Master Q on September 20, 2014, 05:17:31 PM
Quote from: Mailman the 2nd on September 20, 2014, 05:16:14 PM
We'll give you our last pick in the rookie draft for Lucas
Deal
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Mat0369 on September 20, 2014, 06:09:19 PM
Yeah I will also take that
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Ricochet on September 20, 2014, 06:09:52 PM
Sounds like Malceski will stay at Sydney
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: meow meow on September 21, 2014, 03:26:45 AM
Not related to any off season trades, but every time I see Mat0369's photo I think of this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F2tUpQCFWX0

Also, check out who the 4th comment is from, back in 2008!
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Nige on September 21, 2014, 09:31:13 AM
Hahahaha Billie Smedts!
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Ricochet on September 21, 2014, 03:30:59 PM
From 2014 AFL Offeason on twitter/facebook

Jon Ralph had said he believes North Melbourne will need to make some bold decisions in the trade period to close the gap from the top teams.

"So, will a club like North Melbourne be bold enough to look at Bastinac and Black and say we don't think we can get enough from them and look elsewhere?" Ralph asked on SEN.

North Melbourne have been linked to Carlton's Jarrad Waite and the Bulldogs Shaun Higgins.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: My Chumps on September 22, 2014, 01:29:46 AM
Quote from: _wato on September 20, 2014, 03:32:08 PM
Lumumba to Swans? Interesting.
Surely only if Eski leaves.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: ADEZ on September 22, 2014, 11:25:59 AM
2014 AFL Offseason ‏@theafloffseason  3m
Essendon are remaining defiant and has said it will not trade Patrick Ryder for a lesser pick or player, potentially forcing Ryder to the courts to break his contract.
The Ryder camp is adamant a pick around Brisbane
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Bill Manspeaker on September 22, 2014, 12:38:01 PM
copy/paste bug strikes again dezzy :P
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: ADEZ on September 22, 2014, 12:58:04 PM
Quote from: brad on September 22, 2014, 12:38:01 PM
copy/paste bug strikes again dezzy :P
Damn haha can't get it,

https://www.facebook.com/AFLSeasonAndOffSeasonNews/posts/355266684647566 (https://www.facebook.com/AFLSeasonAndOffSeasonNews/posts/355266684647566)

Essendon should face that they wronged their players and cut their losses
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Nige on September 22, 2014, 02:21:43 PM
Surprise surprise...

Sydney has entered the race for Melbourne defender James Frawley, with reports of a six-year, $800,000 per season offer has been tabled.

Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: jvalles69 on September 22, 2014, 02:23:43 PM
Quote from: Nige on September 22, 2014, 02:21:43 PM
Surprise surprise...

Sydney has entered the race for Melbourne defender James Frawley, with reports of a six-year, $800,000 per season offer has been tabled.

What a flowering joke!
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: elephants on September 22, 2014, 02:33:24 PM
Quote from: Nige on September 22, 2014, 02:21:43 PM
Surprise surprise...

Sydney has entered the race for Melbourne defender James Frawley, with reports of a six-year, $800,000 per season offer has been tabled.

I'm calling total BS on that one man :P Saw it earlier and just went pfft nup.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Nige on September 22, 2014, 02:47:26 PM
Quote from: elephants on September 22, 2014, 02:33:24 PM
Quote from: Nige on September 22, 2014, 02:21:43 PM
Surprise surprise...

Sydney has entered the race for Melbourne defender James Frawley, with reports of a six-year, $800,000 per season offer has been tabled.

I'm calling total BS on that one man :P Saw it earlier and just went pfft nup.
I've decided I'm not putting anything beyond the Swans.

I'm already prepared to hear that Fyfe, Rocky, Danger and GAJ are all buying houses next door to Buddy and will be joining the Swans on 23 year contracts.  :P
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Mailman the 2nd on September 22, 2014, 02:57:37 PM
I doubt we've tabled any offers, given our season hasn't even finished yet lol
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: shaker on September 22, 2014, 03:50:26 PM
Ha ha don't think they can keep paying players amounts like that and Frawley is only worth just over 1/2 of that , the Swans need to think about there young guns who are going to command big bucks in the not to distant future
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Bill Manspeaker on September 22, 2014, 04:26:25 PM
Quote from: shaker on September 22, 2014, 03:50:26 PM
Ha ha don't think they can keep paying players amounts like that and Frawley is only worth just over 1/2 of that , the Swans need to think about there young guns who are going to command big bucks in the not to distant future
think you underestimate the AFL's love for Sydney :P
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Ringo on September 22, 2014, 04:42:49 PM


Quote from: ADEZ on September 22, 2014, 11:25:59 AM
2014 AFL Offseason ‏@theafloffseason  3m
Essendon are remaining defiant and has said it will not trade Patrick Ryder for a lesser pick or player, potentially forcing Ryder to the courts to break his contract.
The Ryder camp is adamant a pick around Brisbane

The actual article if you wish to read in full.

http://www.couriermail.com.au/sport/afl/essendon-plays-hard-ball-on-paddy-ryder-trade/story-fnia3zb2-1227065847098

"The Ryder camp is adamant a pick around Brisbane's second-round selection (about No.25 after compensation picks) is fair in the circumstances. Port Adelaide's first pick is about No.15 (including compensation picks)."

Dreaming if they think they can get this:

"Privately, the club has said it would only consider a trade deal if rivals are prepared to trade a top-five pick or player of the calibre of Port star Ollie Wines or Brisbane's Pearce Hanley."
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Nails on September 22, 2014, 04:54:14 PM
Quote from: Ringo on September 22, 2014, 04:42:49 PM


Quote from: ADEZ on September 22, 2014, 11:25:59 AM
2014 AFL Offseason ‏@theafloffseason  3m
Essendon are remaining defiant and has said it will not trade Patrick Ryder for a lesser pick or player, potentially forcing Ryder to the courts to break his contract.
The Ryder camp is adamant a pick around Brisbane

The actual article if you wish to read in full.

http://www.couriermail.com.au/sport/afl/essendon-plays-hard-ball-on-paddy-ryder-trade/story-fnia3zb2-1227065847098

"The Ryder camp is adamant a pick around Brisbane's second-round selection (about No.25 after compensation picks) is fair in the circumstances. Port Adelaide's first pick is about No.15 (including compensation picks)."

Dreaming if they think they can get this:

"Privately, the club has said it would only consider a trade deal if rivals are prepared to trade a top-five pick or player of the calibre of Port star Ollie Wines or Brisbane's Pearce Hanley."

LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL

So they've got a player who WANTS to leave and could potentially walk for FREE

But they'll only bargain for a player or pick worth 2x his value? wtf
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: quinny88 on September 22, 2014, 05:06:58 PM
Who has been running Essendon the past couple of years?  :o sounds like Charlie Sheen and Kermit the frog to me
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Justin Bieber on September 22, 2014, 06:45:54 PM
Crazy Bombers logic...
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Nige on September 23, 2014, 08:58:09 AM
The Bombers have met with Victorian-bound swingman Kristian Jaksch who could be included in a deal that may see Ryder head to the Giants should it be his destination of choice.



The Brisbane Lions are hopeful that they will know Patrick Ryder's intentions before the weekend is out.

He has met with Brisbane, Port Adelaide and GWS, however it is understood the Bombers are more inclined to deal with the Giants, such is the quality of the kids wanting to return back to Victoria.



Patrick Dangerfield says it is completely in the hands of the club as to whether his name is raised as a trade option.

The 24-year-old Victorian will qualify for free agency at the end of 2015, and a trade this off-season would ensure the Crows get appropriate value for their superstar.

In the past 24 hours, he has been strongly linked with a move to the Melbourne Football Club, for what could include Melbourne's Frawley compensation pick, and one of Jimmy Toumpas or Jack Trengove.

Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: shaker on September 23, 2014, 09:08:53 AM
Quote from: brad on September 22, 2014, 04:26:25 PM
Quote from: shaker on September 22, 2014, 03:50:26 PM
Ha ha don't think they can keep paying players amounts like that and Frawley is only worth just over 1/2 of that , the Swans need to think about there young guns who are going to command big bucks in the not to distant future
think you underestimate the AFL's love for Sydney :P

Isn't there million dollar freebie which is paying for Buddy to start winding back from next year ?
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Mailman the 2nd on September 23, 2014, 10:17:31 AM
Quote from: shaker on September 23, 2014, 09:08:53 AM
Quote from: brad on September 22, 2014, 04:26:25 PM
Quote from: shaker on September 22, 2014, 03:50:26 PM
Ha ha don't think they can keep paying players amounts like that and Frawley is only worth just over 1/2 of that , the Swans need to think about there young guns who are going to command big bucks in the not to distant future
think you underestimate the AFL's love for Sydney :P

Isn't there million dollar freebie which is paying for Buddy to start winding back from next year ?

Yes but if you want to fit in here you have to say it anyway
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Spite on September 23, 2014, 01:05:47 PM
Quote from: Mailman the 2nd on September 23, 2014, 10:17:31 AM
Quote from: shaker on September 23, 2014, 09:08:53 AM
Quote from: brad on September 22, 2014, 04:26:25 PM
Quote from: shaker on September 22, 2014, 03:50:26 PM
Ha ha don't think they can keep paying players amounts like that and Frawley is only worth just over 1/2 of that , the Swans need to think about there young guns who are going to command big bucks in the not to distant future
think you underestimate the AFL's love for Sydney :P

Isn't there million dollar freebie which is paying for Buddy to start winding back from next year ?

Yes but if you want to fit in here you have to say it anyway

Here, as in the forum, or here, as in life? Because if you live in a non-nsw state, everyone thought COLA was ridiculous and was exploited and aren't gonna be happy with the swans because of it...
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Ricochet on September 23, 2014, 01:23:23 PM
From 2014 AFL Offeason on twitter/facebook

Geelong have been linked to the Western Bulldogs Will Minson and Hawthorn's Luke Lowden according to Jay Clark and SEN.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Toga on September 23, 2014, 01:28:28 PM
Both would be very good fits at Geelong, they need a ruck that can stay fit to really compete with teams like Sydney and Hawthorn.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Ricochet on September 23, 2014, 01:30:36 PM
Agree mate. Also reports TMitchell will stay at Sydney now
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: jvalles69 on September 23, 2014, 01:59:03 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on September 23, 2014, 01:30:36 PM
Agree mate. Also reports TMitchell will stay at Sydney now

Damn it, was hoping the rumours to West Coast were true. :(
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: eg6914 on September 23, 2014, 04:34:49 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on September 23, 2014, 01:23:23 PM
From 2014 AFL Offeason on twitter/facebook

Geelong have been linked to the Western Bulldogs Will Minson and Hawthorn's Luke Lowden according to Jay Clark and SEN.
wow then who the flower will ruck for western bulldogs then :o
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Nige on September 23, 2014, 04:37:07 PM
Quote from: eg6914 on September 23, 2014, 04:34:49 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on September 23, 2014, 01:23:23 PM
From 2014 AFL Offeason on twitter/facebook

Geelong have been linked to the Western Bulldogs Will Minson and Hawthorn's Luke Lowden according to Jay Clark and SEN.
wow then who the flower will ruck for western bulldogs then :o
Tommy Campbell.

I imagine the Dogs will make a play for Giles though.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: kilbluff1985 on September 23, 2014, 04:40:11 PM
Quote from: Nige on September 23, 2014, 04:37:07 PM
Quote from: eg6914 on September 23, 2014, 04:34:49 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on September 23, 2014, 01:23:23 PM
From 2014 AFL Offeason on twitter/facebook

Geelong have been linked to the Western Bulldogs Will Minson and Hawthorn's Luke Lowden according to Jay Clark and SEN.
wow then who the flower will ruck for western bulldogs then :o
Tommy Campbell.

I imagine the Dogs will make a play for Giles though.

Gorringe more likely
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Nige on September 23, 2014, 04:41:35 PM
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on September 23, 2014, 04:40:11 PM
Quote from: Nige on September 23, 2014, 04:37:07 PM
Quote from: eg6914 on September 23, 2014, 04:34:49 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on September 23, 2014, 01:23:23 PM
From 2014 AFL Offeason on twitter/facebook

Geelong have been linked to the Western Bulldogs Will Minson and Hawthorn's Luke Lowden according to Jay Clark and SEN.
wow then who the flower will ruck for western bulldogs then :o
Tommy Campbell.

I imagine the Dogs will make a play for Giles though.

Gorringe more likely
Giles is probably a better fit since they kinda need a forward too and Giles is more than handy as a forward.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: kilbluff1985 on September 23, 2014, 04:43:19 PM
maybe but Gorringe much younger
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: jvalles69 on September 23, 2014, 04:53:39 PM
Yeah I think Dogs will look for youth...we'll trade Callum Sinclair to them for something, anyone over there from WA?  No Josh Hill's please.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Ricochet on September 23, 2014, 04:55:13 PM
Quote from: jvalles69 on September 23, 2014, 04:53:39 PM
Yeah I think Dogs will look for youth...we'll trade Callum Sinclair to them for something, anyone over there from WA?  No Josh Hill's please.
I think Jason Johannisen is the only WA boy on their list
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Nails on September 23, 2014, 04:56:31 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on September 23, 2014, 04:55:13 PM
Quote from: jvalles69 on September 23, 2014, 04:53:39 PM
Yeah I think Dogs will look for youth...we'll trade Callum Sinclair to them for something, anyone over there from WA?  No Josh Hill's please.
I think Jason Johannisen is the only WA boy on their list

He's a GUN though. Worth lots more than Sinclair.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Mr.Craig on September 23, 2014, 04:58:38 PM
Quote from: jvalles69 on September 23, 2014, 04:53:39 PM
Yeah I think Dogs will look for youth...we'll trade Callum Sinclair to them for something, anyone over there from WA?  No Josh Hill's please.

Sinclair signed a two year deal a couple of months ago. Can't see him going anywhere.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Toga on September 23, 2014, 05:02:06 PM
Giles is only 26 though so not like he's that old... And I'm sure they can look to the draft to top up as well
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: elephants on September 23, 2014, 05:30:33 PM
Quote from: jvalles69 on September 23, 2014, 04:53:39 PM
Yeah I think Dogs will look for youth...we'll trade Callum Sinclair to them for something, anyone over there from WA?  No Josh Hill's please.

Id take Wallis :p
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Mr.Craig on September 23, 2014, 07:13:18 PM
I sense Wallis would benefit from moving clubs.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Purple 77 on September 23, 2014, 08:34:01 PM
Quote from: Nige on September 23, 2014, 08:58:09 AM
In the past 24 hours, he has been strongly linked with a move to the Melbourne Football Club, for what could include Melbourne's Frawley compensation pick, and one of Jimmy Toumpas or Jack Trengove.

Hmm. So telepathy does work.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Nige on September 24, 2014, 08:54:24 AM
North joins chase for Lumumba (http://www.afl.com.au/news/2014-09-24/north-chasing-lumumba)

He's more in demand than I thought he'd be.  :o
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Sweetness on September 24, 2014, 09:25:03 AM
Quote from: Nige on September 23, 2014, 08:58:09 AM

Patrick Dangerfield says it is completely in the hands of the club as to whether his name is raised as a trade option.

In the past 24 hours, he has been strongly linked with a move to the Melbourne Football Club, for what could include Melbourne's Frawley compensation pick, and one of Jimmy Toumpas or Jack Trengove.

Source?
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Nige on September 24, 2014, 09:48:13 AM
Essendon's Patrick Ryder is likely to be traded to Port Adelaide after the Power have committed to trading away their Pick.16.

Brisbane have refused to trade their Pick 4 leaving them with Pick 22 as the next available selection.

- The Age.

Quote from: Sweetness on September 24, 2014, 09:25:03 AM
Quote from: Nige on September 23, 2014, 08:58:09 AM

Patrick Dangerfield says it is completely in the hands of the club as to whether his name is raised as a trade option.

In the past 24 hours, he has been strongly linked with a move to the Melbourne Football Club, for what could include Melbourne's Frawley compensation pick, and one of Jimmy Toumpas or Jack Trengove.

Source?
Same AFL page on Facebook/Twitter that a bulk of these off-season rumours are coming from. They generally have sources linked or give them. The one above is an example.

Didn't provide a source for this one.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Vinny on September 24, 2014, 10:11:34 AM
Ryder is great for Port and I don't think Brisbane really need him to be honest. But seriously, what type of person wants to live in Adelaide? :P
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: SydneyRox on September 24, 2014, 01:25:33 PM
Quote from: elephants on September 23, 2014, 05:30:33 PM
Quote from: jvalles69 on September 23, 2014, 04:53:39 PM
Yeah I think Dogs will look for youth...we'll trade Callum Sinclair to them for something, anyone over there from WA?  No Josh Hill's please.

Id take Wallis :p

surely another in and under player who lacks pace is the last thing the eagles need?
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: elephants on September 24, 2014, 01:32:26 PM
Quote from: SydneyRox on September 24, 2014, 01:25:33 PM
Quote from: elephants on September 23, 2014, 05:30:33 PM
Quote from: jvalles69 on September 23, 2014, 04:53:39 PM
Yeah I think Dogs will look for youth...we'll trade Callum Sinclair to them for something, anyone over there from WA?  No Josh Hill's please.

Id take Wallis :p

surely another in and under player who lacks pace is the last thing the eagles need?

Wallis isn't slow, and we only need 1-2 quick outside players to complete our midfield. Nothing wrong with having more than what we need, as a Sydney fan you'd know all about that ;)
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: strikes91 on September 24, 2014, 04:15:21 PM
Quote from: Nige on September 24, 2014, 09:48:13 AM
Essendon's Patrick Ryder is likely to be traded to Port Adelaide after the Power have committed to trading away their Pick.16.

Brisbane have refused to trade their Pick 4 leaving them with Pick 22 as the next available selection.

- The Age.

Quote from: Sweetness on September 24, 2014, 09:25:03 AM
Quote from: Nige on September 23, 2014, 08:58:09 AM

Patrick Dangerfield says it is completely in the hands of the club as to whether his name is raised as a trade option.

In the past 24 hours, he has been strongly linked with a move to the Melbourne Football Club, for what could include Melbourne's Frawley compensation pick, and one of Jimmy Toumpas or Jack Trengove.

Source?
Same AFL page on Facebook/Twitter that a bulk of these off-season rumours are coming from. They generally have sources linked or give them. The one above is an example.

Didn't provide a source for this one.

What happens if we want to go to Brisbane ? They have to deal with 24
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: shaker on September 24, 2014, 06:39:12 PM
So Beams does want to go home big blow for the Pies  :o
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Purple 77 on September 24, 2014, 06:50:02 PM
Quote from: shaker on September 24, 2014, 06:39:12 PM
So Beams does want to go home big blow for the Pies  :o

WOW!

I heard the rumours, but never thought it would happen!
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Toga on September 24, 2014, 07:09:00 PM
Quote from: Purple 77 on September 24, 2014, 06:50:02 PM
I heard the rumours, but never thought it would happen!
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Mr.Craig on September 24, 2014, 07:49:42 PM
Quote from: Vinny on September 24, 2014, 10:11:34 AM
Ryder is great for Port and I don't think Brisbane really need him to be honest. But seriously, what type of person wants to live in Adelaide? :P

Shut up, we've got an expressway that goes in both directions now.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Grazz on September 24, 2014, 08:37:35 PM
Quote from: Mr.Craig on September 24, 2014, 07:49:42 PM
Quote from: Vinny on September 24, 2014, 10:11:34 AM
Ryder is great for Port and I don't think Brisbane really need him to be honest. But seriously, what type of person wants to live in Adelaide? :P

Shut up, we've got an expressway that goes in both directions now.

Now all we need is for it to go all the way to Darlington atleast.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Nige on September 25, 2014, 10:55:50 AM
North Melbourne have reportedly tabled a three-year, $400,000 per season offer to Western Bulldogs restricted free agent, Shaun Higgins.



Melbourne coach Paul Roos is "absolutely interested" in brokering a trade for Adelaide's Patrick Dangerfield.

Melbourne currently have Pick 2 and will likely receive Pick 3 for James Frawley if he leaves via Free Agency.



Collingwood are hopeful it can retain Dayne Beams next season, despite him telling the club he wants to return home to be closer to family in Queensland.

Beams met with coach Nathan Buckley on Wednesday to request a trade back to his home state so he can be nearer to his father, who is suffering from cancer.

However, the Magpies are starting to put some measures in place to try to convince Beams to stay.

Collingwood CEO Gary Pert said the club was exploring a number of solutions, including provisions where Beams would be allowed to spend more time in Queensland.


Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Ricochet on September 25, 2014, 10:59:44 AM
Quote from: Nige on September 25, 2014, 10:55:50 AM
North Melbourne have reportedly tabled a three-year, $400,000 per season offer to Western Bulldogs restricted free agent, Shaun Higgins.



Melbourne coach Paul Roos is "absolutely interested" in brokering a trade for Adelaide's Patrick Dangerfield.

Melbourne currently have Pick 2 and will likely receive Pick 3 for James Frawley if he leaves via Free Agency.



Collingwood are hopeful it can retain Dayne Beams next season, despite him telling the club he wants to return home to be closer to family in Queensland.

Beams met with coach Nathan Buckley on Wednesday to request a trade back to his home state so he can be nearer to his father, who is suffering from cancer.

However, the Magpies are starting to put some measures in place to try to convince Beams to stay.

Collingwood CEO Gary Pert said the club was exploring a number of solutions, including provisions where Beams would be allowed to spend more time in Queensland.
Wrong thread mate?
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Mr.Craig on September 25, 2014, 12:47:03 PM
Well, I guess it sort of could involve the draft.  :-\
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Nige on September 25, 2014, 01:33:32 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on September 25, 2014, 10:59:44 AM
Quote from: Nige on September 25, 2014, 10:55:50 AM
North Melbourne have reportedly tabled a three-year, $400,000 per season offer to Western Bulldogs restricted free agent, Shaun Higgins.



Melbourne coach Paul Roos is "absolutely interested" in brokering a trade for Adelaide's Patrick Dangerfield.

Melbourne currently have Pick 2 and will likely receive Pick 3 for James Frawley if he leaves via Free Agency.



Collingwood are hopeful it can retain Dayne Beams next season, despite him telling the club he wants to return home to be closer to family in Queensland.

Beams met with coach Nathan Buckley on Wednesday to request a trade back to his home state so he can be nearer to his father, who is suffering from cancer.

However, the Magpies are starting to put some measures in place to try to convince Beams to stay.

Collingwood CEO Gary Pert said the club was exploring a number of solutions, including provisions where Beams would be allowed to spend more time in Queensland.
Wrong thread mate?
Yep...  :-[

Posted the start re: Father/Sons and must have forgot to change threads.  :P
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: My Chumps on September 25, 2014, 02:36:13 PM
Beams to Brisbane
Leunberger to Collingwood
Ryder to Brisbane
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: kilbluff1985 on September 25, 2014, 02:38:28 PM
Quote from: My Chumps on September 25, 2014, 02:36:13 PM
Beams to Brisbane
Leunberger to Collingwood
Ryder to Brisbane

and what do Essendon get in that calculation?
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: meow meow on September 25, 2014, 02:40:02 PM
Collingwood don't have to trade Beams. I doubt they will, but if they do it'll be for a hell of a lot more than Leuenberger.

Geelong interested in Mitch Clark now.

Higgins 100% gone from the Dogs, most likely to North.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: roo boys! on September 25, 2014, 02:40:51 PM
Quote from: meow meow on September 25, 2014, 02:40:02 PM
Higgins 100% gone from the Dogs, most likely to North.
Better not be on the rumoured 400k
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: meow meow on September 25, 2014, 02:44:34 PM
Quote from: roo boys! on September 25, 2014, 02:40:51 PM
Quote from: meow meow on September 25, 2014, 02:40:02 PM
Higgins 100% gone from the Dogs, most likely to North.
Better not be on the rumoured 400k

That's what we were paying him and offered him the same again this time. He wouldn't leave for a pay cut. We offered him 2 years and he wants 3.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: SydneyRox on September 25, 2014, 02:48:34 PM
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on September 25, 2014, 02:38:28 PM
Quote from: My Chumps on September 25, 2014, 02:36:13 PM
Beams to Brisbane
Leunberger to Collingwood
Ryder to Brisbane

and what do Essendon get in that calculation?

the arse because Ryder can walk for nothing

Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: roo boys! on September 25, 2014, 02:49:00 PM
Quote from: meow meow on September 25, 2014, 02:44:34 PM
Quote from: roo boys! on September 25, 2014, 02:40:51 PM
Quote from: meow meow on September 25, 2014, 02:40:02 PM
Higgins 100% gone from the Dogs, most likely to North.
Better not be on the rumoured 400k

That's what we were paying him and offered him the same again this time. He wouldn't leave for a pay cut. We offered him 2 years and he wants 3.
Is he worth it?
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: meow meow on September 25, 2014, 03:03:11 PM
Quote from: roo boys! on September 25, 2014, 02:49:00 PM
Quote from: meow meow on September 25, 2014, 02:44:34 PM
Quote from: roo boys! on September 25, 2014, 02:40:51 PM
Quote from: meow meow on September 25, 2014, 02:40:02 PM
Higgins 100% gone from the Dogs, most likely to North.
Better not be on the rumoured 400k

That's what we were paying him and offered him the same again this time. He wouldn't leave for a pay cut. We offered him 2 years and he wants 3.
Is he worth it?

On talent yes. On output no.

He's a capable AFL player but has never lived up to his potential. A change of clubs might be best for him, or he might just continue to drift along and be an average player being paid overs. Worth a shot in North's position.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Bill Manspeaker on September 25, 2014, 03:08:46 PM
Quote from: My Chumps on September 25, 2014, 02:36:13 PM
Beams to Brisbane
Leunberger to Collingwood
Ryder to Brisbane
Beams and Ryder for Leuenberger? Brisbane would laughing all the way to the bank
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Ricochet on September 25, 2014, 04:28:42 PM
Triple M Adelaide reporting that Alistair Clarkson has accepted an offer to become the coach of the Adelaide ???
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Purple 77 on September 25, 2014, 04:36:42 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on September 25, 2014, 04:28:42 PM
Triple M Adelaide reporting that Alistair Clarkson has accepted an offer to become the coach of the Adelaide ???

???
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: RaisyDaisy on September 25, 2014, 04:36:57 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on September 25, 2014, 04:28:42 PM
Triple M Adelaide reporting that Alistair Clarkson has accepted an offer to become the coach of the Adelaide ???

Just Adelaide trying to stay involved in Footy this week :P
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: SydneyRox on September 25, 2014, 04:38:32 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on September 25, 2014, 04:36:57 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on September 25, 2014, 04:28:42 PM
Triple M Adelaide reporting that Alistair Clarkson has accepted an offer to become the coach of the Adelaide ???

Just Adelaide trying to stay involved in Footy this week :P

LOL - dont worry they are going to be too involved next week when the Dangerfield trade talk really ramps up
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Tominator on September 25, 2014, 04:40:26 PM
Could somebody please outline the Trade and FA period this year? I forget which how long they go for and which one starts first?
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Mat0369 on September 25, 2014, 04:42:04 PM
Quote from: meow meow on September 25, 2014, 02:40:02 PM
Higgins 100% gone from the Dogs, most likely to North.

(http://img4.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20130405172835/glee/images/3/33/Yes_yes_yes.gif)
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: SydneyRox on September 25, 2014, 04:46:25 PM
Quote from: Tominator on September 25, 2014, 04:40:26 PM
Could somebody please outline the Trade and FA period this year? I forget which how long they go for and which one starts first?

http://www.afl.com.au/news/2014-07-17/key-trade-draft-and-free-agency-dates
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: My Chumps on September 25, 2014, 05:06:49 PM
Quote from: Mat0369 on September 25, 2014, 04:42:04 PM
Quote from: meow meow on September 25, 2014, 02:40:02 PM
Higgins 100% gone from the Dogs, most likely to North.

(http://img4.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20130405172835/glee/images/3/33/Yes_yes_yes.gif)
Holy shower the loop on that GIF is flowering perfect
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Holz on September 25, 2014, 05:18:20 PM
Quote from: roo boys! on September 25, 2014, 02:49:00 PM
Quote from: meow meow on September 25, 2014, 02:44:34 PM
Quote from: roo boys! on September 25, 2014, 02:40:51 PM
Quote from: meow meow on September 25, 2014, 02:40:02 PM
Higgins 100% gone from the Dogs, most likely to North.
Better not be on the rumoured 400k

That's what we were paying him and offered him the same again this time. He wouldn't leave for a pay cut. We offered him 2 years and he wants 3.
Is he worth it?

surely we dont need him as a rebounding defenders with NDS Atley Mullett and Lmac.

i assume he will play up front.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Mat0369 on September 25, 2014, 05:27:38 PM
Quote from: Holzman on September 25, 2014, 05:18:20 PM
surely we dont need him as a rebounding defenders with NDS Atley Mullett and Lmac.

i assume he will play up front.

I don't care where he plays, as long as it is not at Carlton
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Ricochet on September 25, 2014, 05:28:52 PM
Geelong have delisted
Nick Bourke, George Burbury, Jordan Schroder, Jackson Sheringham and Jesse Stringer.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Mat0369 on September 25, 2014, 05:30:09 PM
Old man Sheringham.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Holz on September 25, 2014, 06:07:47 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on September 25, 2014, 05:28:52 PM
Geelong have delisted
Nick Bourke, George Burbury, Jordan Schroder, Jackson Sheringham and Jesse Stringer.

NOooooooooo
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Ricochet on September 25, 2014, 07:08:43 PM
bit of talk that Liam Jones has requested to be traded to Carlton
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: My Chumps on September 25, 2014, 07:23:48 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on September 25, 2014, 05:28:52 PM
Geelong have delisted
Nick Bourke, George Burbury, Jordan Schroder, Jackson Sheringham and Jesse Stringer.
Wow. Burbury played a fair few games early in the season.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Mat0369 on September 25, 2014, 07:31:13 PM
Why do they keep linking spuds with Carlton?
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: elephants on September 25, 2014, 07:41:04 PM
Quote from: Mat0369 on September 25, 2014, 07:31:13 PM
Why do they keep linking spuds with Carlton?

Trying to keep all the spuds in one side ;)
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Mat0369 on September 25, 2014, 07:52:21 PM
Quote from: elephants on September 25, 2014, 07:41:04 PM
Trying to keep all the spuds in one side ;)

Shouldn't they be going to Richmond then?
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Toga on September 25, 2014, 07:53:35 PM
Last time I checked Andy Collins was on his way to Visy, not the other way around mate! #visyspudfarm ;)
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Jroo on September 25, 2014, 08:01:50 PM
Quote from: elephants on September 25, 2014, 07:41:04 PM
Quote from: Mat0369 on September 25, 2014, 07:31:13 PM
Why do they keep linking spuds with Carlton?

Trying to keep all the spuds in one side ;)
Haha, the only spud not to be linked with Carlton yet is Mitch Robinson. Won't be long before they announce he'll make a return  :P
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Nige on September 25, 2014, 08:03:05 PM
Quote from: JROO8 on September 25, 2014, 08:01:50 PM
Quote from: elephants on September 25, 2014, 07:41:04 PM
Quote from: Mat0369 on September 25, 2014, 07:31:13 PM
Why do they keep linking spuds with Carlton?

Trying to keep all the spuds in one side ;)
Haha, the only spud not to be linked with Carlton yet is Mitch Robinson. Won't be long before they announce he'll make a return  :P
Decided to retain his services.  ;)
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: ADEZ on September 25, 2014, 10:05:11 PM
Now Essendon want Wingard for Ryder ::)
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Noz on September 25, 2014, 10:12:58 PM
Quote from: ADEZ on September 25, 2014, 10:05:11 PM
Now Essendon want Wingard for Ryder ::)


HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

Essendon still on the drugs?
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Nige on September 25, 2014, 11:05:16 PM
Noz, shorten your haha please, it flowers up the page formatting.

But yes... apparently it's true,

In typical Adrian Doddoro style, Essendon have demanded Chad Wingard in return for Paddy Ryder.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Noz on September 25, 2014, 11:18:10 PM
Quote from: Nige on September 25, 2014, 11:05:16 PM
Noz, shorten your haha please, it flowers up the page formatting.

But yes... apparently it's true,

In typical Adrian Doddoro style, Essendon have demanded Chad Wingard in return for Paddy Ryder.

:(
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Toga on September 25, 2014, 11:28:10 PM
Lol, gl with that, Essendon ;)
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Nige on September 25, 2014, 11:29:10 PM
Quote from: Noz on September 25, 2014, 11:18:10 PM
Quote from: Nige on September 25, 2014, 11:05:16 PM
Noz, shorten your haha please, it flowers up the page formatting.

But yes... apparently it's true,

In typical Adrian Doddoro style, Essendon have demanded Chad Wingard in return for Paddy Ryder.

:(
You can make it long if you use the marquee button under the centering one.  ;)
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Mailman the 2nd on September 25, 2014, 11:40:46 PM
Quote from: Nige on September 25, 2014, 11:05:16 PM
In typical Adrian Doddoro style, Essendon have demanded Chad Wingard in return for Paddy Ryder.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Ziplock on September 25, 2014, 11:52:54 PM
Quote from: Mailman the 2nd on September 25, 2014, 11:40:46 PM
Quote from: Nige on September 25, 2014, 11:05:16 PM
In typical Adrian Doddoro style, Essendon have demanded Chad Wingard in return for Paddy Ryder.

Breaking news- Adrian Doddoro and FARK are the same person.


note- the one trade request fark has sent me this off season has actually been relatively reasonable, kudos
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Noz on September 25, 2014, 11:55:39 PM
Ryder wanted to leave the club but still wanted to try and work out a fair deal in return. Doddoro has come out with a extremely laughable trade option as he still thinks Ryder will stay. I would not be surprised if Ryder saw this as an insult and walked out to enter the PSD and leave Essendon with nothing
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Mat0369 on September 26, 2014, 12:00:15 AM
While reading the article on Ryder, I saw this

Carlton key forward Jarrad Waite, meanwhile, has yet to inform the Blues of whether he will be staying with them.
Waite has been offered a deal by North Melbourne, while Carlton has made a concerted push to retain him in recent weeks, having upgraded its offer to the forward
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Vinny on September 26, 2014, 12:02:03 AM
Thank god Higgins is being linked strongly to North instead.

Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Nige on September 26, 2014, 08:59:47 AM
The herald sun are reporting that Brisbane may hand over pick four and Matthew Leuenberger to Adelaide, with the Crows to offload Patrick Dangerfield to Collingwood, allowing Beams to move to Brisbane.

The Pies will not accept another player along with pick four unless it is Rockliff, Rich or Aish all of whom are not on the table.

Pearce Hanley however, has been mentioned with the Lions not ruling him out.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: GoLions on September 26, 2014, 09:18:34 AM
no
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Toga on September 26, 2014, 09:29:51 AM
I don't think the Lions would do that. Beams is good, yes, but they're not going to move some of their best players to Collingwood to get him, especially considering he has already said he wants to move up to Queensland.

Collingwood - maybe you should've taken Aish when you had the chance ;)
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: RaisyDaisy on September 26, 2014, 10:47:31 AM
Dangerfield in Collingwood colours would just look wrong
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: SydneyRox on September 26, 2014, 11:02:04 AM
thing is, if the Lions dont deal then GC almost certainly will.

Imagine Beams running next to GAJ, JOM, Swallow and Prestia...
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Toga on September 26, 2014, 11:08:35 AM
Did the best I could :P

(http://i57.tinypic.com/2n0owfq.png)
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Toga on September 26, 2014, 11:09:08 AM
Quote from: SydneyRox on September 26, 2014, 11:02:04 AM
thing is, if the Lions dont deal then GC almost certainly will.

Imagine Beams running next to GAJ, JOM, Swallow and Prestia...

But then what will they be expected to give up? ???
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: RaisyDaisy on September 26, 2014, 11:16:01 AM
Quote from: Toga on September 26, 2014, 11:08:35 AM
Did the best I could :P

(http://i57.tinypic.com/2n0owfq.png)

Actually doesnt look as bad I thought  :'(
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: shaker on September 26, 2014, 12:31:43 PM
If Danger is traded he might have a say where he wants to go but still think there is a chance he will sign on long term deal with the Crows
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: _wato on September 26, 2014, 12:37:44 PM
Quote from: Toga on September 26, 2014, 11:09:08 AM
But then what will they be expected to give up? ???

There two first round picks I would assume being pick #7 and pick #14.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: SydneyRox on September 26, 2014, 12:56:40 PM
Quote from: _wato on September 26, 2014, 12:37:44 PM
Quote from: Toga on September 26, 2014, 11:09:08 AM
But then what will they be expected to give up? ???

There two first round picks I would assume being pick #7 and pick #14.

Throw in a young fringe and reckon that would get the deal done.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Toga on September 26, 2014, 01:07:30 PM
But if Collingwood are saying they would only want Aish, Rockliff or Rich then why would they accept a GC fringe player? Doesn't make sense..

Could understand if the two first rounders would get the closer though.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Nige on September 26, 2014, 01:08:05 PM
Pies will want GAJ, Prestia, Dwallow and Bennell for Beams.  :P
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Ricochet on September 26, 2014, 03:49:26 PM
Tom Browne ‏@TomBrowne7  2m
understanding is Ryder has selected @PAFC over @brisbanelions , announcement expected Monday , early next week #afl @EssendonFC
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Nige on September 26, 2014, 03:50:54 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on September 26, 2014, 03:49:26 PM
Tom Browne ‏@TomBrowne7  2m
understanding is Ryder has selected @PAFC over @brisbanelions , announcement expected Monday , early next week #afl @EssendonFC
Brisbane probably aren't too worried since Beams is available. Might be interesting to see what the Bombers do now.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Ringo on September 26, 2014, 05:08:17 PM
Brisbane have ruled out the three way trade saying offer for Beams Pick 4 and a player. Have not named the player so will be interesting to see how it pans out. There are a number of players that Brisbane can offer who come from Victoria but can not see Hanley being offered given we have just signed his young brother
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Southstorm on September 26, 2014, 07:27:55 PM
Quote from: Nige on September 26, 2014, 03:50:54 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on September 26, 2014, 03:49:26 PM
Tom Browne ‏@TomBrowne7  2m
understanding is Ryder has selected @PAFC over @brisbanelions , announcement expected Monday , early next week #afl @EssendonFC
Brisbane probably aren't too worried since Beams is available. Might be interesting to see what the Bombers do now.
Hopefully we shut up and take the pick without too much argument. Pick 16 is more than fair given the circumstances, maybe we could get some fringe rookie as well. Only the most clueless would ask Port to give up Wingard for a player who is practically a free agent but clueless perfectly describes Essendon at times I'm afraid.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Samsturmfels on September 26, 2014, 09:51:35 PM
Quote from: Ringo on September 26, 2014, 05:08:17 PM
Brisbane have ruled out the three way trade saying offer for Beams Pick 4 and a player. Have not named the player so will be interesting to see how it pans out. There are a number of players that Brisbane can offer who come from Victoria but can not see Hanley being offered given we have just signed his young brother
what are the chances of Brisbane giving up Golby
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Ringo on September 26, 2014, 10:03:07 PM
That was my thoughts Sam Pies would want a replacement for Lumumba and Golby fits the bill. Whether Pies would accept 4 + Golby for beams is the question.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: kilbluff1985 on September 26, 2014, 10:05:22 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on September 26, 2014, 11:16:01 AM
Quote from: Toga on September 26, 2014, 11:08:35 AM
Did the best I could :P

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Actually doesnt look as bad I thought  :'(

needs less teeth and more tattoos
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: RaisyDaisy on September 26, 2014, 10:16:24 PM
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on September 26, 2014, 10:05:22 PM
needs less teeth and more tattoos

(http://oi58.tinypic.com/29bj9xc.jpg)
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: elephants on September 27, 2014, 02:57:54 AM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on September 26, 2014, 10:16:24 PM
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on September 26, 2014, 10:05:22 PM
needs less teeth and more tattoos

(http://oi58.tinypic.com/29bj9xc.jpg)

HAHAHAHA :')

Even got the racing stripes, so impressed!
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: shaker on September 27, 2014, 12:51:58 PM
Ha ha very good but think he might be in the red and blue if he goes just think the Dees will be able to satisfy the Crows demands better than the Pies
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Mr.Craig on September 28, 2014, 01:22:26 PM
Gold Coast have thrown their hat into the ring for Dayne Beams, with the Suns reportedly speaking to Collingwood about a potential deal.

Collingwood look to gain the best deal possible for the homeward bound-Magpie, and could easily trump cross-town rivals Brisbane since they have flagged their intentions to offer their two first-round draft selections at 7 and 14 and potentially a player.

Brisbane are not willing to part ways with youngsters James Aish or Sam Mayes, and have categorically taken Tom Rockliff, Pearce Hanley and Jack Redden out of discussions.

Collingwood will also potentially engage another club, reportedly Adelaide, on a three-way deal with the Pies skipper, Scott Pendlebury having already met with Patrick Dangerfield and his manager Paul Connors about a move to the Westpac Centre.

Collingwood's salary cap space has opened up drastically in the past two years with Heath Shaw, Dale Thomas and soon to be Dayne Beams and Heritier Lumumba all walking away from the club, the Pies will have the money to lure Dangerfield with a suggested salary cap space of $1.3 million available.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: RaisyDaisy on September 28, 2014, 03:20:21 PM
Herald Sun reporting that Liam Anthony will be delisted by North

Holz will be gutted!
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Ringo on September 28, 2014, 03:26:31 PM
Just to advise Mr C that Brisbane were waiting till this week to formally speak to Collingwood. The only thing at this stage Brisbane have ruled out are the prems you mentioned and being involved in a three way deal with Crows.

Brisbane have confirmed that they will initially be offering pick 4 and a player (possibly Mitch Golby) for Beams.

Also we have been advised that Ryder will not be coming to Brisbane so expect an announcement from Port this week.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: strikes91 on September 28, 2014, 04:27:57 PM
Buckley sounds fairly certain that Beams will definetly not be at Collingwood next year. Wants pick 4 and a ready made player. Can only see us offering a Golby, Harwood, Bewick or Lester
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Ricochet on September 28, 2014, 04:35:39 PM
Hawks the frontrunners to get Frawley now apparently
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Mr.Craig on September 28, 2014, 06:58:13 PM
Quote from: Ringo on September 28, 2014, 03:26:31 PM
Just to advise Mr C that Brisbane were waiting till this week to formally speak to Collingwood. The only thing at this stage Brisbane have ruled out are the prems you mentioned and being involved in a three way deal with Crows.

Brisbane have confirmed that they will initially be offering pick 4 and a player (possibly Mitch Golby) for Beams.

Also we have been advised that Ryder will not be coming to Brisbane so expect an announcement from Port this week.

Not my words, should have put quote marks but I'm lazy. :-[
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Nige on September 28, 2014, 07:01:48 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on September 28, 2014, 04:35:39 PM
Hawks the frontrunners to get Frawley now apparently
Which has brought about talk/speculation that it could mean Lake is done since he's apparently out of contract.

Don't believe it at all, he's been a key part of going back to back.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Toga on September 28, 2014, 07:27:57 PM
Lake said today at the Hawks' post-GF function that he's pretty keen to go around again
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: GoLions on September 28, 2014, 09:55:06 PM
http://www.news.com.au/sport/afl/dayne-beams-will-rebuff-collingwood-attempts-to-retain-him-demanding-trade-to-brisbane-lions/story-fndv8g1a-1227073150293
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: strikes91 on September 28, 2014, 09:59:23 PM
well he definitely wont be there next year.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: GoLions on September 28, 2014, 10:44:01 PM
Take this with a grain of salt, but yeah, from "AFL Draft, Trade, Free Agency, List and General News" Facebook page:

"Damien Barrett has reported that Collingwood's Alex Fasolo has requested a trade out of the club, despite signing a two year deal midway through the season."
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Mr.Craig on September 28, 2014, 10:48:58 PM
There will be 50 players at Carlton next year and 10 at Collingwood...
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Holz on September 28, 2014, 11:36:09 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on September 28, 2014, 03:20:21 PM
Herald Sun reporting that Liam Anthony will be delisted by North

Holz will be gutted!

Tempted to give up fantasy football.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: elephants on September 28, 2014, 11:39:57 PM
Quote from: GoLions on September 28, 2014, 10:44:01 PM
Take this with a grain of salt, but yeah, from "AFL Draft, Trade, Free Agency, List and General News" Facebook page:

"Damien Barrett has reported that Collingwood's Alex Fasolo has requested a trade out of the club, despite signing a two year deal midway through the season."

WCE pls take notice.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: roo boys! on September 29, 2014, 08:46:56 AM
Quote from: Holzman on September 28, 2014, 11:36:09 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on September 28, 2014, 03:20:21 PM
Herald Sun reporting that Liam Anthony will be delisted by North

Holz will be gutted!

Tempted to give up fantasy football.

If he gets picked up at a club where he will get games...keep an eye on him for your fantasy sides.

Makes sense delisting him from North's perspective though, has been given plenty of chances and has fallen so far down the pecking order its hard to see much advantage in keeping him. Shame, as he has always been a big time ball magnet, and you hear reports of him getting 35 touches in the VFL just about every second week, but too one dimensional and it seems ultimately his poor disposal and decision making has cost him.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: kilbluff1985 on September 29, 2014, 09:30:11 AM
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2014-09-29/aflcomaus-draft-and-trade-primer
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Ringo on September 29, 2014, 09:36:56 AM
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2014-09-29/trade-winds-clarks-call

Looks like it is up to Lions to sort out deal with Pies for Beams with Gold Coast Suns pulling out of the race due to insufficient space in Salary Cap. Beams has also knocked back the latest offer from Pies.

Also down to a choice between Pies and Cats for Mitch Clark and Jaksch will be making a decision between Carlton and St Kilda.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Pkbaldy on September 29, 2014, 10:06:05 AM
Dream trade: Lyons to St Kilda in pick No. 21. - Harry Thring

No way in hell the Saints would do this... Maybe 4th round pick.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: TomK on September 29, 2014, 11:13:05 AM
Quote from: Pkbaldy on September 29, 2014, 10:06:05 AM
Dream trade: Lyons to St Kilda in pick No. 21. - Harry Thring

No way in hell the Saints would do this... Maybe 4th round pick.
Doubt the crows would give up Lyons for a 4th rounder.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Mat0369 on September 29, 2014, 11:16:32 AM
Whispers: On the free agency front, the Blues have withdrawn from the race for Western Bulldog Shaun Higgins and are still awaiting an answer from spearhead Jarrad Waite on whether he is staying or joining North Melbourne.

(http://content.boards.philadelphiaeagles.com/public/style_emoticons/default/towel.gif)
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Jroo on September 29, 2014, 11:18:33 AM
Quote from: GoLions on September 28, 2014, 10:44:01 PM
Take this with a grain of salt, but yeah, from "AFL Draft, Trade, Free Agency, List and General News" Facebook page:

"Damien Barrett has reported that Collingwood's Alex Fasolo has requested a trade out of the club, despite signing a two year deal midway through the season."
So this wasn't true.
@AlexFasolo: Haven't requested a trade. Don't want to play anywhere else, even if someone out there did want me...
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Vinny on September 29, 2014, 11:20:54 AM
Quote from: Mat0369 on September 29, 2014, 11:16:32 AM
Whispers: On the free agency front, the Blues have withdrawn from the race for Western Bulldog Shaun Higgins and are still awaiting an answer from spearhead Jarrad Waite on whether he is staying or joining North Melbourne.

(http://content.boards.philadelphiaeagles.com/public/style_emoticons/default/towel.gif)
:D
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Jroo on September 29, 2014, 11:39:38 AM
The Waite is over, he's gone.
@CarltonFC: BREAKING: Jarrad Waite has informed the Carlton Football Club that it is his intention to pursue opportunities elsewhere next season.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Mat0369 on September 29, 2014, 11:40:38 AM
NOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Vinny on September 29, 2014, 11:43:05 AM
Daamn, what will we get for him?
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Mat0369 on September 29, 2014, 11:44:10 AM
Nothing. He is too old for a compo pick I think
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Capper on September 29, 2014, 11:47:35 AM
North, Freo and Pies interested in Waite, North the leader

Frawley may go to Hawks now
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Mat0369 on September 29, 2014, 11:51:34 AM
If he leaves I can only see him going to a contender. I am just going to pretend there is still a chance we can sign him and be in denial
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Mailman the 2nd on September 29, 2014, 12:00:27 PM
Quote from: Vinny on September 29, 2014, 11:43:05 AM
Daamn, what will we get for him?

He'll be on a short term deal and is pretty old so nothing
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Jroo on September 29, 2014, 12:47:16 PM
It's been rumoured for some time, but now it's official.
@ClarkyHeraldSun: CONFIRMED: GWS No. 2 draft pick Jono O'Rourke has requested a trade. Giants want a first-round pick in return. More @superfooty

I reckon he lands at the Saints.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Mr.Craig on September 29, 2014, 12:52:24 PM
GWS certainly ballsed up that draft selection.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: SydneyRox on September 29, 2014, 12:57:20 PM
Quote from: Mat0369 on September 29, 2014, 11:44:10 AM
Nothing. He is too old for a compo pick I think

age isnt a determi ation?

or bynothing do youmean under value? 3rd round?
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Spinking on September 29, 2014, 01:06:01 PM
Quote from: JROO8 on September 29, 2014, 12:47:16 PM
It's been rumoured for some time, but now it's official.
@ClarkyHeraldSun: CONFIRMED: GWS No. 2 draft pick Jono O'Rourke has requested a trade. Giants want a first-round pick in return. More @superfooty

I reckon he lands at the Saints.

Pick 1 for GWS first 2 picks + ORourke. Sounds fair ;)
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Mr.Craig on September 29, 2014, 01:07:37 PM
Quote from: SydneyRox on September 29, 2014, 12:57:20 PM
Quote from: Mat0369 on September 29, 2014, 11:44:10 AM
Nothing. He is too old for a compo pick I think

age isnt a determi ation?

or bynothing do youmean under value? 3rd round?

It's an old article obviously but I found this...

"The formula for compensation is based on the size and length of the contract and the age of the player. For instance, Brendon Goddard would almost certainly deliver a first-round pick. However, there are various permutations. Clubs that lose a player to free agency but gain a player could receive less, depending on the value of the player they recruit. For instance, if St Kilda lost Goddard, but gained another player of less quality, the compensation would be based on the difference between the players, meaning the Saints may only receive a third-round pick plus their new player. If the player gained is judged to be at the same level to the one lost, the relevant club would receive nothing."

http://www.theage.com.au/afl/afl-news/afl-free-agency-how-it-works-20121001-26ue3.html
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: RaisyDaisy on September 29, 2014, 01:08:47 PM
Any explanation as to how O'Rourke went at 2 and has barely got games?
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Nige on September 29, 2014, 01:11:22 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on September 29, 2014, 01:08:47 PM
Any explanation as to how O'Rourke went at 2 and has barely got games?
Victim of a combination of injuries and the Giants midfield depth.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Torpedo10 on September 29, 2014, 01:13:44 PM
Quote from: Nige on September 29, 2014, 01:11:22 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on September 29, 2014, 01:08:47 PM
Any explanation as to how O'Rourke went at 2 and has barely got games?
Victim of a combination of injuries and the Giants midfield depth.
Going to good teams is almost always a curse.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Nige on September 29, 2014, 01:19:56 PM
Quote from: Torpedo10 on September 29, 2014, 01:13:44 PM
Quote from: Nige on September 29, 2014, 01:11:22 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on September 29, 2014, 01:08:47 PM
Any explanation as to how O'Rourke went at 2 and has barely got games?
Victim of a combination of injuries and the Giants midfield depth.
Going to good teams is almost always a curse.
Apparently the Hawks are leading the race for him...  :o ???

Giants, like most other clubs, want a quality pick or player for him.  :P
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: krk004 on September 29, 2014, 01:20:11 PM
Quote from: JROO8 on September 29, 2014, 12:47:16 PM
It's been rumoured for some time, but now it's official.
@ClarkyHeraldSun: CONFIRMED: GWS No. 2 draft pick Jono O'Rourke has requested a trade. Giants want a first-round pick in return. More @superfooty

I reckon he lands at the Saints.

via the PSD?
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Nige on September 29, 2014, 01:22:20 PM
Patrick Keane ‏@AFL_PKeane 22s

AFL today advised clubs that Free Agency Compensation will be advised at time of player move,not at end of Free Agency Period as previously.

Patrick Keane ‏@AFL_PKeane 15s

AFL also issued updated Free Agency list to all clubs. 1 Restricted Free Agent (Shaun Higgins) and 13 Unrestricted Free Agents remain.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Bill Manspeaker on September 29, 2014, 01:28:26 PM
Quote from: Nige on September 29, 2014, 01:22:20 PM
Patrick Keane ‏@AFL_PKeane 22s

AFL today advised clubs that Free Agency Compensation will be advised at time of player move,not at end of Free Agency Period as previously.
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Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Ziplock on September 29, 2014, 01:31:35 PM
Quote from: krk004 on September 29, 2014, 01:20:11 PM
Quote from: JROO8 on September 29, 2014, 12:47:16 PM
It's been rumoured for some time, but now it's official.
@ClarkyHeraldSun: CONFIRMED: GWS No. 2 draft pick Jono O'Rourke has requested a trade. Giants want a first-round pick in return. More @superfooty

I reckon he lands at the Saints.

via the PSD?

Quote from: Mr.Craig on September 29, 2014, 12:52:24 PM
GWS certainly ballsed up that draft selection.

Quote from: Nige on September 29, 2014, 01:11:22 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on September 29, 2014, 01:08:47 PM
Any explanation as to how O'Rourke went at 2 and has barely got games?
Victim of a combination of injuries and the Giants midfield depth.

I don't think it was a draft screw up, I think the recruiting team went in with the intention of snagging as many extremely talented players from every position with the probability that even if they misfired with some, the others would work out.

There was always a chance that anyone taken at any pick would flop- O'Rourke has just been hampered by injuries for the past few years though and starved of opportunities as other uninjured youngsters subsequently developed faster than him... that being said, easily worth a first round. If I was O'Rourke though I wouldn't want to go to the saints... entirely possible the same situation could unfold again.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Capper on September 29, 2014, 01:37:03 PM
Quote from: Nige on September 29, 2014, 01:22:20 PM
Patrick Keane ‏@AFL_PKeane 22s

AFL today advised clubs that Free Agency Compensation will be advised at time of player move,not at end of Free Agency Period as previously.

Patrick Keane ‏@AFL_PKeane 15s

AFL also issued updated Free Agency list to all clubs. 1 Restricted Free Agent (Shaun Higgins) and 13 Unrestricted Free Agents remain.
do we know who the 13 are??
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Nige on September 29, 2014, 01:38:33 PM
Quote from: tabs on September 29, 2014, 01:37:03 PM
Quote from: Nige on September 29, 2014, 01:22:20 PM
Patrick Keane ‏@AFL_PKeane 22s

AFL today advised clubs that Free Agency Compensation will be advised at time of player move,not at end of Free Agency Period as previously.

Patrick Keane ‏@AFL_PKeane 15s

AFL also issued updated Free Agency list to all clubs. 1 Restricted Free Agent (Shaun Higgins) and 13 Unrestricted Free Agents remain.
do we know who the 13 are??
Jason Porplyzia - Adelaide
Jarrad Waite - Carlton
Leroy Jetta - Essendon
Dustin Fletcher - Essendon
Luke McPharlin - Fremantle
Brad Sewell - Hawthorn
James Frawley - Melbourne
Michael Firrito - N/Melbourne
Tom Logan - P/Adelaide
James Gwilt - St.Kilda
Clint Jones - St.Kilda
Adam Goodes - Sydney
Nick Malceski - Sydney
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Capper on September 29, 2014, 01:40:21 PM
Quote from: brad on September 29, 2014, 01:28:26 PM
Quote from: Nige on September 29, 2014, 01:22:20 PM
Patrick Keane ‏@AFL_PKeane 22s

AFL today advised clubs that Free Agency Compensation will be advised at time of player move,not at end of Free Agency Period as previously.
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i agree, muich better than last year
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Capper on September 29, 2014, 01:42:58 PM
Quote from: Nige on September 29, 2014, 01:38:33 PM
Quote from: tabs on September 29, 2014, 01:37:03 PM
Quote from: Nige on September 29, 2014, 01:22:20 PM
Patrick Keane ‏@AFL_PKeane 22s

AFL today advised clubs that Free Agency Compensation will be advised at time of player move,not at end of Free Agency Period as previously.

Patrick Keane ‏@AFL_PKeane 15s

AFL also issued updated Free Agency list to all clubs. 1 Restricted Free Agent (Shaun Higgins) and 13 Unrestricted Free Agents remain.
do we know who the 13 are??
Jason Porplyzia - Adelaide
Jarrad Waite - Carlton
Leroy Jetta - Essendon
Dustin Fletcher - Essendon
Luke McPharlin - Fremantle
Brad Sewell - Hawthorn
James Frawley - Melbourne
Michael Firrito - N/Melbourne
Tom Logan - P/Adelaide
James Gwilt - St.Kilda
Clint Jones - St.Kilda
Adam Goodes - Sydney
Nick Malceski - Sydney
Thanks Nige.

Wasnt Gwilt and Jones delisted and Jetta left/quit/retired??

Porp wont get another contract and i think Sewell will stay as Rioli may retire!!
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Nige on September 29, 2014, 01:45:38 PM
Quote from: tabs on September 29, 2014, 01:42:58 PM
Quote from: Nige on September 29, 2014, 01:38:33 PM
Quote from: tabs on September 29, 2014, 01:37:03 PM
Quote from: Nige on September 29, 2014, 01:22:20 PM
Patrick Keane ‏@AFL_PKeane 22s

AFL today advised clubs that Free Agency Compensation will be advised at time of player move,not at end of Free Agency Period as previously.

Patrick Keane ‏@AFL_PKeane 15s

AFL also issued updated Free Agency list to all clubs. 1 Restricted Free Agent (Shaun Higgins) and 13 Unrestricted Free Agents remain.
do we know who the 13 are??
Jason Porplyzia - Adelaide
Jarrad Waite - Carlton
Leroy Jetta - Essendon
Dustin Fletcher - Essendon
Luke McPharlin - Fremantle
Brad Sewell - Hawthorn
James Frawley - Melbourne
Michael Firrito - N/Melbourne
Tom Logan - P/Adelaide
James Gwilt - St.Kilda
Clint Jones - St.Kilda
Adam Goodes - Sydney
Nick Malceski - Sydney
Thanks Nige.

Wasnt Gwilt and Jones delisted and Jetta left/quit/retired??

Porp wont get another contract and i think Sewell will stay as Rioli may retire!!
Yeah, exactly. Half the list is delisted, will retire or are looking for a new club.

Eski, Frawley and Waite are the big three of interest really.

Waite almost certainly headed for North, but Eski and Frawls still being targeted by a number of clubs.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: _wato on September 29, 2014, 02:11:48 PM
Quote from: tabs on September 29, 2014, 01:42:58 PM
Thanks Nige.

Wasnt Gwilt and Jones delisted and Jetta left/quit/retired??

Porp wont get another contract and i think Sewell will stay as Rioli may retire!!

Rioli may retire? Are you actually serious?
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Mr.Craig on September 29, 2014, 03:05:53 PM
Nah, Rioli to Sydney surely...
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: JBs-Hawks on September 29, 2014, 03:06:59 PM
Quote from: Mr.Craig on September 29, 2014, 03:05:53 PM
Nah, Rioli to Sydney surely...

On a $30m 20 year deal
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Mr.Craig on September 29, 2014, 03:07:45 PM
Quote from: JBs-Hawks on September 29, 2014, 03:06:59 PM
Quote from: Mr.Craig on September 29, 2014, 03:05:53 PM
Nah, Rioli to Sydney surely...

On a $30m 20 year deal

And no compo...
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Toga on September 29, 2014, 03:23:50 PM
Will be interesting to see where O'Rourke goes and what he will be able to do next year, depends on what the Giants demand in return for him he could end up a steal
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: RaisyDaisy on September 29, 2014, 04:52:24 PM
Andrew McKay has confirmed that they are not chasing Tom Mitchell, but if he said he wanted out of Sydney they would look at him

Jaksch and Liam Jones are on their radar

Higgins is not

He expects Robbo and Garlett to be traded in the coming weeks

http://www.afl.com.au/news/2014-09-29/blues-not-poaching-swan
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Bill Manspeaker on September 29, 2014, 04:58:23 PM
apparently Josh Mahoney stated on trade radio that Melbourne will offer picks 2 and 3 for Dangerfield
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Mr.Craig on September 29, 2014, 05:05:14 PM
Quote from: brad on September 29, 2014, 04:58:23 PM
apparently Josh Mahoney stated on trade radio that Melbourne will offer picks 2 and 3 for Dangerfield

That would certainly be cause for consideration but how are Melbourne getting Pick 3 off GWS?
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Mat0369 on September 29, 2014, 05:06:24 PM
Frawley compo pick
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Nige on September 29, 2014, 05:06:28 PM
Quote from: Mr.Craig on September 29, 2014, 05:05:14 PM
Quote from: brad on September 29, 2014, 04:58:23 PM
apparently Josh Mahoney stated on trade radio that Melbourne will offer picks 2 and 3 for Dangerfield

That would certainly be cause for consideration but how are Melbourne getting Pick 3 off GWS?
They're clearly assuming that they'll get Pick 3 as compensation for old mate Frawley.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Bill Manspeaker on September 29, 2014, 05:08:33 PM
yeah the 3 is the compo pick for Frawley
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Mr.Craig on September 29, 2014, 05:27:11 PM
Seriously hope all this talk about O'Rourke and Hawthorn is hot air. Not interested at all.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Ringo on September 29, 2014, 05:44:51 PM
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2014-09-29/lumumba-nominates-dees

Lumumba has told Pies his preferred destination is Dees.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Big Mac on September 29, 2014, 05:53:09 PM
Quote from: Ringo on September 29, 2014, 05:44:51 PM
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2014-09-29/lumumba-nominates-dees

Lumumba has told Pies his preferred destination is Dees.

Actually pretty happy about this - I wonder what we've offered him
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Mailman the 2nd on September 29, 2014, 05:59:15 PM
Manager said that he'd be worth a mid 2nd round pick, so thats probably what Melbourne will offer unless there's a player that wants to head to Collingwood.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: kilbluff1985 on September 29, 2014, 06:00:16 PM
Quote from: Mailman the 2nd on September 29, 2014, 05:59:15 PM
Manager said that he'd be worth a mid 2nd round pick, so thats probably what Melbourne will offer unless there's a player that wants to head to Collingwood.

half of Melbourne's list probably do
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Big Mac on September 29, 2014, 06:12:30 PM
Quote from: Mailman the 2nd on September 29, 2014, 05:59:15 PM
Manager said that he'd be worth a mid 2nd round pick, so thats probably what Melbourne will offer unless there's a player that wants to head to Collingwood.

Not sure if you were replying to me - I was more asking what we offered to get him to nominate us (i.e. what sort of $$$)


Quote from: kilbluff1985 on September 29, 2014, 06:00:16 PM
Quote from: Mailman the 2nd on September 29, 2014, 05:59:15 PM
Manager said that he'd be worth a mid 2nd round pick, so thats probably what Melbourne will offer unless there's a player that wants to head to Collingwood.

half of Melbourne's list probably do

Kind of beating a dead horse there mate
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: kilbluff1985 on September 29, 2014, 06:16:55 PM
i'll beat a dead horse if i want :P
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Mailman the 2nd on September 29, 2014, 06:18:12 PM
Quote from: Big  Mac on September 29, 2014, 06:12:30 PM
Quote from: Mailman the 2nd on September 29, 2014, 05:59:15 PM
Manager said that he'd be worth a mid 2nd round pick, so thats probably what Melbourne will offer unless there's a player that wants to head to Collingwood.

Not sure if you were replying to me - I was more asking what we offered to get him to nominate us (i.e. what sort of $$$)


Decent I assume, can't imagine it would be a whole lot over 300-350k
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Nige on September 29, 2014, 06:20:29 PM
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on September 29, 2014, 06:16:55 PM
i'll beat a dead horse if i want :P
KB and friends have been spotted in an interesting disguise. :o

(http://www.rottenchestnuts.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/10/beating_a_dead_horse.jpg)
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: roo boys! on September 29, 2014, 06:24:12 PM
Happy he's not going to North..can't stand the bloke. Can certainly play, but we've got stacks of guys to run it off half back anyway.

Waite and Higgins still seem likely to join North.

Good to see the Dees getting active trade wise too.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Ricochet on September 29, 2014, 06:32:05 PM
During the year I thought this was going to be a boring trade period given the list of FA's... it's turned into something completely different
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: JBs-Hawks on September 29, 2014, 06:37:17 PM
Quote from: Mr.Craig on September 29, 2014, 05:27:11 PM
Seriously hope all this talk about O'Rourke and Hawthorn is hot air. Not interested at all.

Il be happy with him. Getting a pick 2 for pick 20 with two years of development  in him so he can immediately  challenge for spots
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Ricochet on September 29, 2014, 06:40:27 PM
So the big talk the other day was that Pendles met with Danger the other day for a coffee... Looks like Pendles may be shutting that down lol

(http://i62.tinypic.com/2h52t83.png)
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Vinny on September 29, 2014, 06:41:46 PM
Haha that shutdown would be heartbreaking from someone like Pendles. :P
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Purple 77 on September 29, 2014, 06:51:24 PM
@Lumumba, cool! Think Pick 22 is fair.


Very promising to see melbourne are willing and active this trade period  :D
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: elephants on September 29, 2014, 06:52:33 PM
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on September 29, 2014, 06:16:55 PM
i'll beat off a dead horse if i want :P

Dude wtf...
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: kilbluff1985 on September 29, 2014, 06:54:26 PM
Quote from: elephants on September 29, 2014, 06:52:33 PM
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on September 29, 2014, 06:16:55 PM
i'll beat off a dead horse if i want :P

Dude wtf...

lighten up ele
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Ricochet on September 29, 2014, 06:57:20 PM
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on September 29, 2014, 06:54:26 PM
Quote from: elephants on September 29, 2014, 06:52:33 PM
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on September 29, 2014, 06:16:55 PM
i'll beat off a dead horse if i want :P

Dude wtf...

lighten up ele
He was man lol
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: My Chumps on September 29, 2014, 07:22:16 PM
Man I hope Dangerfield ends up at the Dees  :o
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Vinny on September 29, 2014, 07:26:27 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on September 29, 2014, 06:57:20 PM
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on September 29, 2014, 06:54:26 PM
Quote from: elephants on September 29, 2014, 06:52:33 PM
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on September 29, 2014, 06:16:55 PM
i'll beat off a dead horse if i want :P

Dude wtf...

lighten up ele
He was man lol
Hahaha
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: RaisyDaisy on September 29, 2014, 07:31:08 PM
Quote from: Vinny on September 29, 2014, 07:26:27 PM
Hahaha

Classic Vinny  ;D
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: stew42 on September 29, 2014, 07:52:22 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on September 29, 2014, 06:40:27 PM
So the big talk the other day was that Pendles met with Danger the other day for a coffee... Looks like Pendles may be shutting that down lol

(http://i62.tinypic.com/2h52t83.png)
There are some REEEEEEALLY stupid rumours that Pendles might leave Collingwood. I want to smack them across the face!
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: GoLions on September 29, 2014, 07:53:23 PM
Quote from: stew42 on September 29, 2014, 07:52:22 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on September 29, 2014, 06:40:27 PM
So the big talk the other day was that Pendles met with Danger the other day for a coffee... Looks like Pendles may be shutting that down lol

(http://i62.tinypic.com/2h52t83.png)
There are some REEEEEEALLY stupid rumours that Pendles might leave Collingwood. I want to smack them across the face!
I think that was more in relation to the rumours of Danger leaving the Crows, not Pendles leaving the Pies
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Nige on September 29, 2014, 08:14:50 PM
The Age are reporting that GWS are set to move up the draft order to pick one, via a trade with St Kilda to help the Giants secure gun goalkicking midfielder, Christian Petracca in the draft.

The Giants are set to throw in a 'sweetener' and it's been mooted the names of Kristian Jaksch and/or Jonathan O'Rourke could be involved in the deal.

There have been murmurs that the Giants may demand pick one, and St Kilda's pick 21 in return for a package deal of pick three, Jaksch and O'Rourke which would trump clubs such as Carlton who've shown interest in Jaksch, whilst Collingwood, North Melbourne, Richmond, Hawthorn and Western Bulldogs have pursued O'Rourke.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Toga on September 29, 2014, 08:41:31 PM
Interesting... As I said on the Saints board it doesn't surprise me that the Giants are trying to move into the top 2 picks, as the three standout mids of the draft crop (Petracca, Brayshaw and Heeney) will all be unavailable by that point, and it's not as if the Giants need any of the tall forwards that sit around that Pick 3-6 region.

Might be a good move for both teams.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Nige on September 29, 2014, 08:43:50 PM
Quote from: Toga on September 29, 2014, 08:41:31 PM
Interesting... As I said on the Saints board it doesn't surprise me that the Giants are trying to move into the top 2 picks, as the three standout mids of the draft crop (Petracca, Brayshaw and Heeney) will all be unavailable by that point, and it's not as if the Giants need any of the tall forwards that sit around that Pick 3-6 region.

Might be a good move for both teams.
Not really sure they need any more mids either though which is my problem. O'Rourke was Pick 2 and became a victim of their mid depth. Petracca is more likely to carve out a better career at the Saints imo.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Toga on September 29, 2014, 08:46:33 PM
Yeah, agreed mate. But GWS would benefit from a bullocking goal-kicking mid like Petracca than they would from a tall forward like McCartin/Wright I think.

But yeah I think Petracca would probably be better off at the Saints as well, not sure whether that will have any affect on negotiations however. Would be interesting to see whether Petracca would get games at the Giants if he ends up going there.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: kilbluff1985 on September 29, 2014, 08:48:58 PM
Petracca is ready made for the AFL should get games at any bottom 8 teams
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Ricochet on September 29, 2014, 09:10:58 PM
Essendon is set to reject Port Adelaide's first-round draft pick in exchange for star ruckman Paddy Ryder.
The Bombers will tell Power chiefs when they meet for the opening day of trade talks next month that any deal must include a senior player of a similar calibre to Ryder
- Herald Sun.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Nige on September 29, 2014, 09:15:18 PM
Can GWS, Sydney, Essendon and Collingwood please be kicked out of the AFL and be replaced by 4 state league teams like Norwood and Port Melbourne?  ::) :P
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Big Mac on September 29, 2014, 09:15:53 PM
Essendon  ::)
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Mailman the 2nd on September 29, 2014, 09:16:41 PM
Quote from: Nige on September 29, 2014, 09:15:18 PM
Can GWS, Sydney, Essendon and Collingwood please be kicked out of the AFL and be replaced by 4 state league teams like Norwood and Port Melbourne?  ::) :P

There there Nigey Richmond's season hasn't started yet
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Toga on September 29, 2014, 09:23:51 PM
Who are they gonna be hoping for then? Not as if Port are going to give up one of their stars so not really sure what they're expecting ???
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Nige on September 29, 2014, 09:24:03 PM
Quote from: Mailman the 2nd on September 29, 2014, 09:16:41 PM
Quote from: Nige on September 29, 2014, 09:15:18 PM
Can GWS, Sydney, Essendon and Collingwood please be kicked out of the AFL and be replaced by 4 state league teams like Norwood and Port Melbourne?  ::) :P

There there Nigey Richmond's season hasn't started yet
:(
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: elephants on September 29, 2014, 09:25:29 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on September 29, 2014, 06:57:20 PM
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on September 29, 2014, 06:54:26 PM
Quote from: elephants on September 29, 2014, 06:52:33 PM
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on September 29, 2014, 06:16:55 PM
i'll beat off a dead horse if i want :P

Dude wtf...

lighten up ele
He was man lol

Haha I should've bolded it. Glad someone picked it up ;)



I really hope Ryder walks into the draft haha
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Spanner221 on September 30, 2014, 01:13:56 AM
Quote from: tabs on September 29, 2014, 01:42:58 PM
Quote from: Nige on September 29, 2014, 01:38:33 PM
Quote from: tabs on September 29, 2014, 01:37:03 PM
Quote from: Nige on September 29, 2014, 01:22:20 PM
Patrick Keane ‏@AFL_PKeane 22s

AFL today advised clubs that Free Agency Compensation will be advised at time of player move,not at end of Free Agency Period as previously.

Patrick Keane ‏@AFL_PKeane 15s

AFL also issued updated Free Agency list to all clubs. 1 Restricted Free Agent (Shaun Higgins) and 13 Unrestricted Free Agents remain.
do we know who the 13 are??
Jason Porplyzia - Adelaide
Jarrad Waite - Carlton
Leroy Jetta - Essendon
Dustin Fletcher - Essendon
Luke McPharlin - Fremantle
Brad Sewell - Hawthorn
James Frawley - Melbourne
Michael Firrito - N/Melbourne
Tom Logan - P/Adelaide
James Gwilt - St.Kilda
Clint Jones - St.Kilda
Adam Goodes - Sydney
Nick Malceski - Sydney
Thanks Nige.

Wasnt Gwilt and Jones delisted and Jetta left/quit/retired??

Porp wont get another contract and i think Sewell will stay as Rioli may retire!!

Not sure if it's already been mentioned but Gwilt and Jones are still on St Kilda list. They're just been told they will not be offered new contracts. After October 31 they become delisted free agents.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: RaisyDaisy on September 30, 2014, 07:35:38 AM
Really surprised to read that Joel Patfull wants to be traded to Sydney
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: strikes91 on September 30, 2014, 07:48:14 AM
Chasing success. Don't blame him his career is running out. I'm expecting that this comes into a beams trade as well.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Toga on September 30, 2014, 08:06:21 AM
Wow, would not have expected that! Where did you here that RD?

Especially after I saw an article only a few weeks ago about Brisbane starting to build a really strong SA contingent. But yeah I guess he's after some success before it's too late.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Ricochet on September 30, 2014, 08:48:40 AM
yeh also read that. was on the free agency Facebook page I think
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: kilbluff1985 on September 30, 2014, 08:50:20 AM
so when does it start tomorrow is it?
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Nige on September 30, 2014, 08:56:48 AM
Wow, Patfull would be a massive loss for Brisbane. One of their better players and a strong leader at the club.

Assuming Eski leaves, he'd slot straight in (probably would even if Eski didn't).
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Big Mac on September 30, 2014, 09:03:15 AM
Quote from: kilbluff1885 on September 30, 2014, 08:50:20 AM
so when does it start tomorrow is it?

http://www.westernbulldogs.com.au/news/2014-09-29/key-trade-draft-and-free-agency-dates (http://www.westernbulldogs.com.au/news/2014-09-29/key-trade-draft-and-free-agency-dates)
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: kilbluff1985 on September 30, 2014, 09:09:42 AM
wonder how much money the AFL gets for having NAB before everything ::)
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Ringo on September 30, 2014, 09:42:17 AM
Quote from: Nige on September 30, 2014, 08:56:48 AM
Wow, Patfull would be a massive loss for Brisbane. One of their better players and a strong leader at the club.

Assuming Eski leaves, he'd slot straight in (probably would even if Eski didn't).
Patful has made it known that he wants to base his after football pursuits in Sydney and this is where the rumours started. Patful is contracted for 12 months and will become a restricted free agent next year so in our interests to get a trade done if possible.
He has stated no preference for either team so a 3 way trade with GWS to get Beams may eventuate giving Pies 2 first round picks. Brisbane are not keen on giving up second round pick until after Academy bidding as it is suspected 2nd pick may be required to secure Liam Dawson.
Would not mind this eventuating but probably unlikely Sydney give Pies Malceski, Brisbane give Sydney Patful and Pies give Beams.

Another player who may be offered as trade bait is Daniel Merrett, Merett has admitted form this year was down and may benefit from a new environment.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: RaisyDaisy on September 30, 2014, 09:46:01 AM
Read it on Herald Sun

Also Sauce Merrett is shopping around now and looking at options to leave
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Ringo on September 30, 2014, 09:48:34 AM
Just edited my post RD to include that, He is still a required player though according to Warren.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Ricochet on September 30, 2014, 09:57:38 AM
Found it interesting that Derek Hine has said this morning that Dean Warren hasn't even spoken to the pies yet
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Ricochet on September 30, 2014, 10:34:28 AM
Its been confirmed that Liam Jones has requested a trade to Carlton
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Nige on September 30, 2014, 10:37:27 AM
Quote from: Ricochet on September 30, 2014, 10:34:28 AM
Its been confirmed that Liam Jones has requested a trade to Carlton
I hear both Dogs and Blues fans rejoicing.  :P
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Mailman the 2nd on September 30, 2014, 10:51:29 AM
Malceski is a free agent, so he won't be part of a trade involving Patful if that's indeed what he wants to do.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: TomK on September 30, 2014, 11:43:20 AM
Petroro on O'Rourke: He's had interest from Hawthorn and St Kilda plus a few others #NABTradeRadio

Petroro on Jonathan Giles: Both Adelaide clubs, @Adelaide_FC and @PAFC have shown interest #NABTradeRadio

Petroro on James Gwilt: There's been a couple of clubs interested over last couple of weeks. Two clubs reasonably interested #NABTradeRadio

Adelaide better not be interested in Gwilt.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Pkbaldy on September 30, 2014, 11:45:46 AM
Quote from: TomK on September 30, 2014, 11:43:20 AM
Petroro on O'Rourke: He's had interest from Hawthorn and St Kilda plus a few others #NABTradeRadio

Petroro on Jonathan Giles: Both Adelaide clubs, @Adelaide_FC and @PAFC have shown interest #NABTradeRadio

Petroro on James Gwilt: There's been a couple of clubs interested over last couple of weeks. Two clubs reasonably interested #NABTradeRadio

Adelaide better not be interested in Gwilt.

Milera wants to go back to SA. So Gwilt and Milera in a package deal to Adelaide ;)
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: TomK on September 30, 2014, 11:49:55 AM
Quote from: Pkbaldy on September 30, 2014, 11:45:46 AM
Quote from: TomK on September 30, 2014, 11:43:20 AM
Petroro on O'Rourke: He's had interest from Hawthorn and St Kilda plus a few others #NABTradeRadio

Petroro on Jonathan Giles: Both Adelaide clubs, @Adelaide_FC and @PAFC have shown interest #NABTradeRadio

Petroro on James Gwilt: There's been a couple of clubs interested over last couple of weeks. Two clubs reasonably interested #NABTradeRadio

Adelaide better not be interested in Gwilt.

Milera wants to go back to SA. So Gwilt and Milera in a package deal to Adelaide ;)
Please no ahah
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Pkbaldy on September 30, 2014, 11:52:06 AM
Quote from: TomK on September 30, 2014, 11:49:55 AM
Quote from: Pkbaldy on September 30, 2014, 11:45:46 AM
Quote from: TomK on September 30, 2014, 11:43:20 AM
Petroro on O'Rourke: He's had interest from Hawthorn and St Kilda plus a few others #NABTradeRadio

Petroro on Jonathan Giles: Both Adelaide clubs, @Adelaide_FC and @PAFC have shown interest #NABTradeRadio

Petroro on James Gwilt: There's been a couple of clubs interested over last couple of weeks. Two clubs reasonably interested #NABTradeRadio

Adelaide better not be interested in Gwilt.

Milera wants to go back to SA. So Gwilt and Milera in a package deal to Adelaide ;)
Please no ahah

I'll be generous and give you Clinton Jones too haha. For that Lyon fella who we want apparently?
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: TomK on September 30, 2014, 11:54:42 AM
Quote from: Pkbaldy on September 30, 2014, 11:52:06 AM
Quote from: TomK on September 30, 2014, 11:49:55 AM
Quote from: Pkbaldy on September 30, 2014, 11:45:46 AM
Quote from: TomK on September 30, 2014, 11:43:20 AM
Petroro on O'Rourke: He's had interest from Hawthorn and St Kilda plus a few others #NABTradeRadio

Petroro on Jonathan Giles: Both Adelaide clubs, @Adelaide_FC and @PAFC have shown interest #NABTradeRadio

Petroro on James Gwilt: There's been a couple of clubs interested over last couple of weeks. Two clubs reasonably interested #NABTradeRadio

Adelaide better not be interested in Gwilt.

Milera wants to go back to SA. So Gwilt and Milera in a package deal to Adelaide ;)
Please no ahah

I'll be generous and give you Clinton Jones too haha. For that Lyon fella who we want apparently?
Done! ahah

Regarding Lyons, David Noble said yesterday that they were currently working with him to sign a new contract and he is happy here. Seems like he won't be traded.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Ricochet on September 30, 2014, 11:55:29 AM
If Patful does move to Sydney they're expecting GWS rather than the Swans and it would be a pick in the 20s
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: TomK on September 30, 2014, 11:58:17 AM
Apparently no SA based clubs have made contact about Shoenmakers. Interesting considering the rumours of him to the Crows.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: kilbluff1985 on September 30, 2014, 01:12:36 PM
BREAKING:
The Age is reporting that Mitch Clark has nominated Geelong as his club of choice.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Nige on September 30, 2014, 01:14:11 PM
Quote from: kilbluff1885 on September 30, 2014, 01:12:36 PM
BREAKING:
The Age is reporting that Mitch Clark has nominated Geelong as his club of choice.
Which means Lumumba is probably going to the Dees for Pick 22 and will play no part in a deal between the Dees and Pies for Clark.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Ricochet on September 30, 2014, 01:15:12 PM
That would be huge for Geelong. Would also give Kersten/Brown/etc more time to develop as a 3rd tall fwd rather than a #2
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Mr.Craig on September 30, 2014, 01:22:20 PM
Quote from: TomK on September 30, 2014, 11:43:20 AM
Petroro on O'Rourke: He's had interest from Hawthorn and St Kilda plus a few others #NABTradeRadio

Hawthorn can get a better player at Pick 18 than O'Rourke. Hope they realise that.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: kilbluff1985 on September 30, 2014, 01:22:32 PM
Gold Coast ruckman Daniel Gorringe has requested a trade away from the Gold Coast Suns and has nominated Port Adelaide as his preference of choice.
Gorringe, a former top ten pick, has had limited opportunities at the Suns and has struggled since the beginning of his career.

very strange choice
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Mr.Craig on September 30, 2014, 01:24:28 PM
Quote from: kilbluff1885 on September 30, 2014, 01:22:32 PM
Gold Coast ruckman Daniel Gorringe has requested a trade away from the Gold Coast Suns and has nominated Port Adelaide Magpies as his preference of choice.
Gorringe, a former top ten pick, has had limited opportunities at the Suns and has struggled since the beginning of his career.

very strange choice
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: RaisyDaisy on September 30, 2014, 01:34:51 PM
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2014-09-30/live-draft-combine-trade-and-free-agency-news

Live Updates
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Nige on September 30, 2014, 01:42:53 PM
Quote from: Mr.Craig on September 30, 2014, 01:24:28 PM
Quote from: kilbluff1885 on September 30, 2014, 01:22:32 PM
Gold Coast ruckman Daniel Gorringe has requested a trade away from the Gold Coast Suns and has nominated Port Adelaide Magpies as his preference of choice.
Gorringe, a former top ten pick, has had limited opportunities at the Suns and has struggled since the beginning of his career.

very strange choice
He's clearly been in hibernation during this whole Ryder saga, unless he knows something we all don't.  :o
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Vinny on September 30, 2014, 01:45:57 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on September 30, 2014, 01:34:51 PM
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2014-09-30/live-draft-combine-trade-and-free-agency-news

Live Updates
Awesome, thanks man.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Jay on September 30, 2014, 01:46:36 PM
Quote from: Nige on September 30, 2014, 01:42:53 PM
Quote from: Mr.Craig on September 30, 2014, 01:24:28 PM
Quote from: kilbluff1885 on September 30, 2014, 01:22:32 PM
Gold Coast ruckman Daniel Gorringe has requested a trade away from the Gold Coast Suns and has nominated Port Adelaide Magpies as his preference of choice.
Gorringe, a former top ten pick, has had limited opportunities at the Suns and has struggled since the beginning of his career.

very strange choice
He's clearly been in hibernation during this whole Ryder saga, unless he knows something we all don't.  :o
He'll end up at Adelaide.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Vinny on September 30, 2014, 01:47:18 PM
Carlton will take Gorringe! Then we will delist Wood and Warnock.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: RaisyDaisy on September 30, 2014, 02:23:47 PM
Confirmed: Mitch Clark has nominated Geelong, so now they will negotiate with Melbourne

I guess that rules out the Lumumba swap

Higgins has also told WB that he is leaving - North and another club are interested
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Big Mac on September 30, 2014, 02:24:45 PM
Quote from: kilbluff1885 on September 30, 2014, 01:12:36 PM
BREAKING:
The Age is reporting that Mitch Clark has nominated Geelong as his club of choice.

Still can't believe that the guy has no inclination to repay the MFC. Oh well, I will look forward to booing him next year
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Bill Manspeaker on September 30, 2014, 02:48:52 PM
Quote from: Big  Mac on September 30, 2014, 02:24:45 PM
Quote from: kilbluff1885 on September 30, 2014, 01:12:36 PM
BREAKING:
The Age is reporting that Mitch Clark has nominated Geelong as his club of choice.

Still can't believe that the guy has no inclination to repay the MFC. Oh well, I will look forward to booing him next year
just asked a question on this on your board. I thought this might be the case. he really screwed the Dees
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: JBs-Hawks on September 30, 2014, 03:00:14 PM
Clearly a shower human being.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: RaisyDaisy on September 30, 2014, 03:00:49 PM
Cats confident that Clark is in a good space and his foot is fine
Even though they look like getting Clark, they are still interested in Frawley
They expect Vardy to be up and running next season
They are aware that Taylor Hunt is exploring his options
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Noz on September 30, 2014, 03:24:57 PM
Terry Wallace believes the bulldogs will be lucky to get anything higher than a pick above a fourth round pick for Shaun Higgins
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Purple 77 on September 30, 2014, 03:36:07 PM
And a big flower you to you to Mitch Clark, by now most disliked player in the comp!
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Ringo on September 30, 2014, 03:42:08 PM
Quote from: Purple 77 on September 30, 2014, 03:36:07 PM
And a big flower you to you to Mitch Clark, by now most disliked player in the comp!
Has never been my favourite player Purps after requesting a trade to go back to WA and ended up in Melbourne. Speaks with forked tongue and do not trust him or his manager.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Toga on September 30, 2014, 04:29:06 PM
Still don't understand the Clark situation, I hope the Dees get something decent for him.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Big Mac on September 30, 2014, 04:55:55 PM
Varcoe for Clark gaining legs. Also just had a read of the Geelong BF board - Man they say some stupid things over there. Practically frothing at the mouth at the prospect of having Clark next to Hawkins next year, but all of them only willing to give up Taylor Hunt.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: meow meow on September 30, 2014, 05:03:38 PM
Clark is going to be a flop anyway. The Dees are better off without him.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: RaisyDaisy on September 30, 2014, 05:09:48 PM
Quote from: meow meow on September 30, 2014, 05:03:38 PM
Clark is going to be a flop anyway. The Dees are better off without him.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Hellopplz on September 30, 2014, 06:29:18 PM
Quote from: Ringo on September 29, 2014, 09:36:56 AM
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2014-09-29/trade-winds-clarks-call

Looks like it is up to Lions to sort out deal with Pies for Beams with Gold Coast Suns pulling out of the race due to insufficient space in Salary Cap. Beams has also knocked back the latest offer from Pies.

Also down to a choice between Pies and Cats for Mitch Clark and Jaksch will be making a decision between Carlton and St Kilda.
Jaksch could be so good at either Blues/Saints! They need a tall forward and he would slip in well.

I reckon Clark will flop as well. Taylor Hunt is a solid tagger but reckon Demons will get a pick in like the 3rd round for him probably.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Ricochet on September 30, 2014, 10:50:22 PM
Paige Cardona ‏@paigecardona  43m43 minutes ago
Jason Tutt might just be wearing Yellow and Black next year. If it happens,you heard it here first! Typical Blair Hartley-type move.

???
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Mr.Craig on September 30, 2014, 11:13:59 PM
My sides!

http://i.imgur.com/hCamWbl.jpg
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Nige on September 30, 2014, 11:26:14 PM
Quote from: Mr.Craig on September 30, 2014, 11:13:59 PM
My sides!

http://i.imgur.com/hCamWbl.jpg
Just saw this before. So accurate, so good.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Toga on September 30, 2014, 11:28:12 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on September 30, 2014, 10:50:22 PM
Paige Cardona ‏@paigecardona  43m43 minutes ago
Jason Tutt might just be wearing Yellow and Black next year. If it happens,you heard it here first! Typical Blair Hartley-type move.

???

DOn't know much about him but at a glance it looks like he's the kind of player we do need.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Nige on September 30, 2014, 11:31:36 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on September 30, 2014, 10:50:22 PM
Paige Cardona ‏@paigecardona  43m43 minutes ago
Jason Tutt might just be wearing Yellow and Black next year. If it happens,you heard it here first! Typical Blair Hartley-type move.

???
Yeah, not on big on Paige these days. Fairly sure she was the one who suggested we trade Lids to the Giants or something like that.

Still, I do like this move. Tutt's quick and operates mainly on the outside and can drift forward and kick goals (3 on debut from memory?). Wouldn't be a bad acquisition in place of Matty White. Still hope McDonough could be that player though.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Mr.Craig on September 30, 2014, 11:46:23 PM
Quote from: Nige on September 30, 2014, 11:31:36 PM
(3 on debut from memory?).

4.

How could you forget? The commentators remind us about it every time he's touched the ball for the last 3 years.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Mat0369 on September 30, 2014, 11:55:48 PM
Quote from: Mr.Craig on September 30, 2014, 11:13:59 PM
My sides!

http://i.imgur.com/hCamWbl.jpg

My favourite part is the 'thinking chair'
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: RaisyDaisy on October 01, 2014, 07:23:12 AM
Quote from: Ricochet on September 30, 2014, 10:50:22 PM
Paige Cardona ‏@paigecardona  43m43 minutes ago
Jason Tutt might just be wearing Yellow and Black next year. If it happens,you heard it here first! Typical Blair Hartley-type move.

???

Why do people follow this flog?

Sam Landsberger from HS reported his departure 2 hours before her post, and the Herald Sun article mentions a Victorian Club after him

Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Ricochet on October 01, 2014, 08:29:27 AM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on October 01, 2014, 07:23:12 AM
Quote from: Ricochet on September 30, 2014, 10:50:22 PM
Paige Cardona ‏@paigecardona  43m43 minutes ago
Jason Tutt might just be wearing Yellow and Black next year. If it happens,you heard it here first! Typical Blair Hartley-type move.

???

Why do people follow this flog?
Because when it comes to U18 stuff she's pretty switched on.  You just have to filter her other shower
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Dudge on October 01, 2014, 08:32:42 AM
What a strange move by Mitch, having had/got depression, you would of thought he'd put the least amount of pressure on himself as possible. By leaving the Dee's, everyone will be watching and questioning his every move now. Sure way to put the spotlight on yourself I would of thought
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Nige on October 01, 2014, 09:19:50 AM
Quote from: Ricochet on October 01, 2014, 08:29:27 AM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on October 01, 2014, 07:23:12 AM
Quote from: Ricochet on September 30, 2014, 10:50:22 PM
Paige Cardona ‏@paigecardona  43m43 minutes ago
Jason Tutt might just be wearing Yellow and Black next year. If it happens,you heard it here first! Typical Blair Hartley-type move.

???

Why do people follow this flog?
Because when it comes to U18 stuff she's pretty switched on.  You just have to filter her other shower
Yeah, to be fair to Paige, she definitely knows her stuff when it comes to the U18s and usually gets stuff right in that department.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Ringo on October 01, 2014, 09:21:23 AM
Agree Dudge - Will be under more spotlight than ever because of circumstances.

http://www.afl.com.au/news/2014-10-01/dees-target-defenders

Dees chasing Merrett and Frost and along with Lumumba would give them a nice back line even with Frawleys departure.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Ricochet on October 01, 2014, 12:38:34 PM
from 2014 AFL Offseason Page
- Both Taylor Hunt and Travis Varcoe have declined an offer to join Melbourne as part of a deal for Mitch Clark.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Capper on October 01, 2014, 01:02:13 PM
Firrito has signed a 1 year extension. Makes the Norf salary cap issue even more interesting
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Nige on October 01, 2014, 01:53:55 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on October 01, 2014, 12:38:34 PM
from 2014 AFL Offseason Page
- Both Taylor Hunt and Travis Varcoe have declined an offer to join Melbourne as part of a deal for Mitch Clark.
Well, that's interesting...  :o
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: JBs-Hawks on October 01, 2014, 02:20:03 PM
Hunt must enjoy the VFL
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Mat0369 on October 01, 2014, 02:24:02 PM
I don't know why anyone would want Travis Varcoe
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Big Mac on October 01, 2014, 02:26:17 PM
Quote from: Mat0369 on October 01, 2014, 02:24:02 PM
I don't know why anyone would want Travis Varcoe

On face-value I agree but he would be a hell of an upgrade on Matt Jones or whoever else we throw in that position
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Mat0369 on October 01, 2014, 03:00:06 PM
Quote from: Big  Mac on October 01, 2014, 02:26:17 PM
On face-value I agree but he would be a hell of an upgrade on Matt Jones or whoever else we throw in that position

The last thing you guys need is another outside player that butchers the ball
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Nige on October 01, 2014, 03:12:51 PM
Richmond has been rumoured as the club to have put a deal in front of exiting Bulldog, Jason Tutt.



Chris Pelchen has confirmed that the club has met with former small-forward, Ahmed Saad's management.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Purple 77 on October 01, 2014, 03:44:24 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on October 01, 2014, 12:38:34 PM
from 2014 AFL Offseason Page
- Both Taylor Hunt and Travis Varcoe have declined an offer to join Melbourne as part of a deal for Mitch Clark.

Oh thank god.

If we would have got Lumumba for Clark with Collingwood, IMO Varcoe or Hunt isn't as good as Lumumba so I wasn't very happy with these rumours.

I'm happy with the quoted one though  :P
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Spite on October 01, 2014, 04:12:36 PM
If Stretch goes to Dees with the low 20s pick, what would they give up for Lumumba?
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Nige on October 01, 2014, 04:16:34 PM
Quote from: Spite on October 01, 2014, 04:12:36 PM
If Stretch goes to Dees with the low 20s pick, what would they give up for Lumumba?
They'll probably try to get Stretch with their 3rd rounder and keep 22 for Lumumba.

Alternatively, bid 22 for Stretch and trade in a pick around the mark for Lumumba.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Big Mac on October 01, 2014, 04:41:03 PM
Quote from: Spite on October 01, 2014, 04:12:36 PM
If Stretch goes to Dees with the low 20s pick, what would they give up for Lumumba?

Surely no-one would bid on Stretch with their first-rounder (or Saints with their second rounder)? Honestly don't know what we would give up for Lumumba - I was hoping it would be 'Clarke' (I saw it spelt this way on the news this morning)
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Nige on October 01, 2014, 08:31:19 PM
Tutt nominated the Blues as his club of choice apparently.  :o
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Spite on October 01, 2014, 08:39:52 PM
Quote from: Nige on October 01, 2014, 08:31:19 PM
Tutt nominated the Blues as his club of choice apparently.  :o

Lol so the way to fix blues forward line woes is to recruit the Bulldogs failed forward line players haha
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Big Mac on October 01, 2014, 09:50:12 PM
Quote from: Spite on October 01, 2014, 08:39:52 PM
Quote from: Nige on October 01, 2014, 08:31:19 PM
Tutt nominated the Blues as his club of choice apparently.  :o

Lol so the way to fix blues forward line woes is to recruit the Bulldogs failed forward line players haha

:P
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Ringo on October 02, 2014, 08:55:11 AM
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2014-10-02/trade-winds-thursday

Surprise in this is linking of Dan Hannebury to Tigers.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Toga on October 02, 2014, 09:03:48 AM
Would not complain with that! ;)
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: SydneyRox on October 02, 2014, 09:35:33 AM
Quote from: Toga on October 02, 2014, 09:03:48 AM
Would not complain with that! ;)

ha! good luck with that
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Rusty00 on October 02, 2014, 10:41:54 AM
Where's this rumour about Hannebury come from? Is he reportably not happy at Sydney for whatever reason or is it just that other clubs want him?
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Jroo on October 02, 2014, 10:42:03 AM
Quote from: Toga on October 02, 2014, 09:03:48 AM
Would not complain with that! ;)
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Ringo on October 02, 2014, 10:56:59 AM
Also a rumour circulating that Winderlich wants to play on bit at another club.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Mailman the 2nd on October 02, 2014, 11:02:05 AM
I think Hannebery would cost Richmond a bit more than they can afford
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: SydneyRox on October 02, 2014, 11:05:21 AM
Quote from: Mailman the 2nd on October 02, 2014, 11:02:05 AM
I think Hannebery would cost Richmond a bit more than they can afford

Yeah, not much on their list that they would likely part with would get it done

The guy from Richmond pretty much squashed this one on trade radio
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Ricochet on October 02, 2014, 11:05:36 AM
Quote from: Ringo on October 02, 2014, 10:56:59 AM
Also a rumour circulating that Winderlich wants to play on bit at another club.
His manager just said he hasn't spoken to any other clubs and would love to stay at Essendon
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: SydneyRox on October 02, 2014, 11:07:17 AM
Interested to hear the next interview if the Dogs are actually chasing Sam Reid. Not sure that the plan the trade radio guys came up with of 25+26 would get it done
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Mailman the 2nd on October 02, 2014, 11:11:03 AM
Quote from: SydneyRox on October 02, 2014, 11:07:17 AM
Interested to hear the next interview if the Dogs are actually chasing Sam Reid. Not sure that the plan the trade radio guys came up with of 25+26 would get it done

Probably depends on whether he's happy to stay or not. It might have to happen if he does, otherwise they'll probably just leave it.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Ricochet on October 02, 2014, 11:12:23 AM
Blues hoping a 3rd round pick will get it done for Liam Jones

Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: SydneyRox on October 02, 2014, 11:18:39 AM
Quote from: Ricochet on October 02, 2014, 11:12:23 AM
Blues hoping a 3rd round pick will get it done for Liam Jones

yeah and dogs want a first round...

surprised to hear them say they would be happy for a round three compensation for Waite? Sounds about right but the fact they agree??  :o
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Mailman the 2nd on October 02, 2014, 11:28:22 AM
Quote from: SydneyRox on October 02, 2014, 11:18:39 AM
Quote from: Ricochet on October 02, 2014, 11:12:23 AM
Blues hoping a 3rd round pick will get it done for Liam Jones

yeah and dogs want a first round...

LOL
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Ricochet on October 02, 2014, 11:28:43 AM
and in other news Tom Harley leaves Channel 7 to be Sydney's new footy manager
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: SydneyRox on October 02, 2014, 11:31:43 AM
Quote from: Ricochet on October 02, 2014, 11:28:43 AM
and in other news Tom Harley leaves Channel 7 to be Sydney's new footy manager

Big get for the Swans i think
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Jroo on October 02, 2014, 11:34:06 AM
Quote from: Ricochet on October 02, 2014, 11:28:43 AM
and in other news Tom Harley leaves Channel 7 to be Sydney's new footy manager
Brilliant news, I can't stand listening to him on Ch7.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Ricochet on October 02, 2014, 11:38:34 AM
http://www.news.com.au/sport/afl/victorian-forward-tim-membrey-requests-trade/story-fndv8ujy-1227077570836?sv=20195c3e7e6ccb07622f4402250560aa#.VCypaQguBlI.twitter

Membrey requests trade
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: The_Captain on October 02, 2014, 11:41:04 AM
Quote from: Ringo on September 30, 2014, 03:42:08 PM
Quote from: Purple 77 on September 30, 2014, 03:36:07 PM
And a big flower you to you to Mitch Clark, by now most disliked player in the comp!
Has never been my favourite player Purps after requesting a trade to go back to WA and ended up in Melbourne. Speaks with forked tongue and do not trust him or his manager.

Also not a fan. Dog act to the Dees after all they have done for him.

Who would want him on their list! He is likely to quit half way through the year and want to go to a new team the next season if things are tough for the team.

Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: _wato on October 02, 2014, 12:08:36 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on October 02, 2014, 11:38:34 AM
http://www.news.com.au/sport/afl/victorian-forward-tim-membrey-requests-trade/story-fndv8ujy-1227077570836?sv=20195c3e7e6ccb07622f4402250560aa#.VCypaQguBlI.twitter

Membrey requests trade

Was bound to happen.. Hopefully moves somewhere and gets a spot on someone's list where he would get sufficient game time, seems like a fairly good player, just surrounded by a very very good team.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: SydneyRox on October 02, 2014, 12:17:32 PM
Quote from: _wato on October 02, 2014, 12:08:36 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on October 02, 2014, 11:38:34 AM
http://www.news.com.au/sport/afl/victorian-forward-tim-membrey-requests-trade/story-fndv8ujy-1227077570836?sv=20195c3e7e6ccb07622f4402250560aa#.VCypaQguBlI.twitter

Membrey requests trade

Was bound to happen.. Hopefully moves somewhere and gets a spot on someone's list where he would get sufficient game time, seems like a fairly good player, just surrounded by a very very good team.

yeah it is a shame. He has worked hard to get to the point of playing a game at the swans, but his defensive game wasnt always there apparently. going to a dogs/carlton he could do well.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Noz on October 02, 2014, 12:38:09 PM
Shaun Higgins will sign with North Melbourne first thing monday morning.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Mat0369 on October 02, 2014, 12:49:38 PM
Quote from: SydneyRox on October 02, 2014, 11:18:39 AM
yeah and dogs want a first round...

surprised to hear them say they would be happy for a round three compensation for Waite? Sounds about right but the fact they agree??  :o

The Dogs are lucky if they get a 3rd for him

I think they know with Jarrad's age and the fact it will be a 2 year deal they are lucky to get anything at all for him. When he is officially gone I will probably cry
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Jroo on October 02, 2014, 01:00:35 PM
@gullanHeraldSun: James Frawley has chosen Hawthorn @ClarkyHeraldSun all over it @superfooty

@ClarkyHeraldSun: James Frawley has chosen the Hawks over the Cats. Major coup for the reitgning premier. See @superfooty


Surely this means Lake is gone?  :'(
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: kilbluff1985 on October 02, 2014, 01:02:00 PM
wowee
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Vinny on October 02, 2014, 01:03:30 PM
:o

I thought he went Cats? Or was that just speculation?
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Grazz on October 02, 2014, 01:08:24 PM
Quote from: Vinny on October 02, 2014, 01:03:30 PM
:o

I thought he went Cats? Or was that just speculation?

Must of been mate, its everywhere now he's joined the Hawks. I thought the Cats were in the box seat. Well done Hawks.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: krk004 on October 02, 2014, 01:14:18 PM
Frawley to Hawks, possibly on less than what he originally was seeking.

Perhaps pk 3 isn't the comp pk outcome for Demons............. ???
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: kilbluff1985 on October 02, 2014, 01:14:54 PM
(http://i61.tinypic.com/f0t2z6.gif)
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Spite on October 02, 2014, 01:29:40 PM
Lol Hanners absolutely loves buddy, why would he leave? He seems happy!
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: _wato on October 02, 2014, 03:13:46 PM
Suck shower Geelong, don't have any remorse for you whatsoever.

However I dunno why he would of chosen Hawthorn (apart from success) but he has to play well otherwise he'll get shafted for someone else, as seen with Mcevoy.. Very interesting - I wonder where they have him playing if they were to keep Lake? He still has a lot to give in my opinion.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: meow meow on October 02, 2014, 03:32:37 PM
Lake will go around again IMO.

Frawley could push someone like Stratton out of the best 22. Teams rarely ever get their best 22 on the park anyway so there will always be a spot that he can fill.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Jroo on October 02, 2014, 04:25:33 PM
Quote from: meow meow on October 02, 2014, 03:32:37 PM
Lake will go around again IMO.

Frawley could push someone like Stratton out of the best 22. Teams rarely ever get their best 22 on the park anyway so there will always be a spot that he can fill.
Yeah Lake committed for another year.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: roo boys! on October 02, 2014, 04:28:33 PM
Spangher, Lake, Gibson, Frawley looks pretty strong for key defensive posts to me.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: meow meow on October 02, 2014, 05:02:48 PM
Quote from: _wato on October 02, 2014, 03:13:46 PM
I wonder where they have him playing if they were to keep Lake? He still has a lot to give in my opinion.

Chip to play KPD leaving Lake to take the small forwards every week ;D. Absolutely destroyed Wingard!
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Purple 77 on October 02, 2014, 06:01:52 PM
flower me Frawley, the one club I didn't want you to go to!

It would really be the icing on the flower-you-cake if we didn't get Pick 3 because the pay is less  >:(
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Grazz on October 02, 2014, 06:16:26 PM
Quote from: Purple 77 on October 02, 2014, 06:01:52 PM
flower me Frawley, the one club I didn't want you to go to!

It would really be the icing on the flower-you-cake if we didn't get Pick 3 because the pay is less  >:(

Tbh Purps i can't see how Frawley is worth pick 3, a second round pick is more realistic. Do you think he's worth pick 3 when the likes of Buddy and Goddard were only worth second rnd picks. Dudge was saying having two years to run on his contract boost's his compo pick but to me that isn't right either. I just don't see him being worth that high a compo pick.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Mr.Craig on October 02, 2014, 06:25:37 PM
If the compensation is truly based around age and the size of the contract as the AFL claims then I would love to hear their justification for Buddy being worth Pick 19 and Frawley 3. I think it's just a sneaky way of essentially handing Melbourne a priority pick.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Grazz on October 02, 2014, 06:27:12 PM
Quote from: Mr.Craig on October 02, 2014, 06:25:37 PM
If the compensation is truly based around age and the size of the contract as the AFL claims then I would love to hear their justification for Buddy being worth Pick 19 and Frawley 3. I think it's just a sneaky way of essentially handing Melbourne a priority pick.

Yeh i dont get it tbh. :-\
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: JBs-Hawks on October 02, 2014, 06:27:56 PM
Quote from: Mr.Craig on October 02, 2014, 06:25:37 PM
If the compensation is truly based around age and the size of the contract as the AFL claims then I would love to hear their justification for Buddy being worth Pick 19 and Frawley 3. I think it's just a sneaky way of eseentially handing Melbourne a priority pick.

Its because they are both getting the best pick they can. The best compensation available is after your first pick. Hawthorn got the best compensation possible, Saints did for Goddard and Melbourne deserve to for Frawley. Just looks outrageous because Melbourne are a low team and have a good first round pick which just means they need the extra compensation.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Spite on October 02, 2014, 06:29:36 PM
Quote from: Mr.Craig on October 02, 2014, 06:25:37 PM
If the compensation is truly based around age and the size of the contract as the AFL claims then I would love to hear their justification for Buddy being worth Pick 19 and Frawley 3. I think it's just a sneaky way of essentially handing Melbourne a priority pick.

What? Buddy got the highest compensation possible, you just won the flag so you got it after your first pick. If you came last that year, you would get pick 2. It's all the formula, the formula has its flaws but there was no sneaky business, just a flawed forumula
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Grazz on October 02, 2014, 06:31:02 PM
Cheers JB. Don't like that system but if thats how it works then so be it.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Big Mac on October 02, 2014, 06:40:01 PM
Quote from: Grazz on October 02, 2014, 06:31:02 PM
Cheers JB. Don't like that system but if thats how it works then so be it.

It's more of an equalisation thing because stronger teams are far less reliant on their star players than a weak team is. So stronger teams would receive a lesser pick than a weak team would for the same player (even though they would both be awarded the same compensation in the AFL's eyes i.e. 'first round').
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Grazz on October 02, 2014, 06:48:08 PM
Quote from: Big  Mac on October 02, 2014, 06:40:01 PM
Quote from: Grazz on October 02, 2014, 06:31:02 PM
Cheers JB. Don't like that system but if thats how it works then so be it.

It's more of an equalisation thing because stronger teams are far less reliant on their star players than a weak team is. So stronger teams would receive a lesser pick than a weak team would for the same player (even though they would both be awarded the same compensation in the AFL's eyes i.e. 'first round').

Thanks Mac, i understand the sentiment behind it but i dont see how it's working. We now have players saying i'll go here or here but nowhere else, of course their choices are top clubs or those with a finals chance. So the bigger clubs are loading up on this available talent and the equalisation as it were meant to be isnt really equalising the comp. The comp was more equal 5-6 years ago than it is now. I dont think this system is working as it was designed to do, my two cents worth.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Mr.Craig on October 02, 2014, 06:50:20 PM
Quote from: Spite on October 02, 2014, 06:29:36 PM
Quote from: Mr.Craig on October 02, 2014, 06:25:37 PM
If the compensation is truly based around age and the size of the contract as the AFL claims then I would love to hear their justification for Buddy being worth Pick 19 and Frawley 3. I think it's just a sneaky way of essentially handing Melbourne a priority pick.

What? Buddy got the highest compensation possible, you just won the flag so you got it after your first pick. If you came last that year, you would get pick 2. It's all the formula, the formula has its flaws but there was no sneaky business, just a flawed forumula

These are the rules as published by the AFL.

"A club that has a net loss of players transferring to/from other clubs as free agents in one transfer period is entitled to compensation via National Draft picks allocated by the AFL.

The compensation formula produces a points rating for players based on:

1. The new contract of the free agent;
2. The age of the free agent.

Draft picks are allocated to clubs based on the net total points for free agents lost and gained during the transfer period.

Draft picks will be allocated to one of five places:

1st round
end of 1st round
2nd round
end of 2nd round
3rd round

In applying the formula, an expert committee reviews the formula outcomes. The committee has the power to recommend alternative outcomes to GM - Football Operations where the formula produces a materially anomalous result."

Nowhere in that does it stipulate that the compensation is tied to final ladder position or has to come after a team's selection in any given round. Hawthorn was given a pick at the end of the first round because that's what the AFL judged was fair compensation. You can argue that in the committee review stage it was suggested that due to Hawthorn's strong list they weren't deserving of a higher selection but it is not a specifically outlined in the rules.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Spite on October 02, 2014, 07:02:47 PM
Quote from: Mr.Craig on October 02, 2014, 06:50:20 PM
Quote from: Spite on October 02, 2014, 06:29:36 PM
Quote from: Mr.Craig on October 02, 2014, 06:25:37 PM
If the compensation is truly based around age and the size of the contract as the AFL claims then I would love to hear their justification for Buddy being worth Pick 19 and Frawley 3. I think it's just a sneaky way of essentially handing Melbourne a priority pick.

What? Buddy got the highest compensation possible, you just won the flag so you got it after your first pick. If you came last that year, you would get pick 2. It's all the formula, the formula has its flaws but there was no sneaky business, just a flawed forumula

These are the rules as published by the AFL.

"A club that has a net loss of players transferring to/from other clubs as free agents in one transfer period is entitled to compensation via National Draft picks allocated by the AFL.

The compensation formula produces a points rating for players based on:

1. The new contract of the free agent;
2. The age of the free agent.

Draft picks are allocated to clubs based on the net total points for free agents lost and gained during the transfer period.

Draft picks will be allocated to one of five places:

1st round
end of 1st round
2nd round
end of 2nd round
3rd round

In applying the formula, an expert committee reviews the formula outcomes. The committee has the power to recommend alternative outcomes to GM - Football Operations where the formula produces a materially anomalous result."

Nowhere in that does it stipulate that the compensation is tied to final ladder position or has to come after a team's selection in any given round. Hawthorn was given a pick at the end of the first round because that's what the AFL judged was fair compensation. You can argue that in the committee review stage it was suggested that due to Hawthorn's strong list they weren't deserving of a higher selection but it is not a specifically outlined in the rules.

Haha nah man, its because they published it incorrectly :P

http://www.afl.com.au/news/2013-02-03/press-for-changes-to-fa-compensation

"The first year of free agency saw clubs awarded compensation picks that were tied with the club's respective finishing ladder position. This meant St Kilda was awarded pick 13 for losing restricted free agent Brendon Goddard because the Saints already held pick 12.

But under the revised system discussed by some clubs, picks would only be allocated to the end of each round of the draft, meaning the Saints would have still received a first-round pick for Goddard but it would have been used at the end of the round (pick 24 overall in 2012.)"

The system was reviewed but there hasn't been any changes so I assume the first scenario still stands. It is tied to finishing order. Also in the formula there are other criteria such as where the player has finished in the clubs past best and fairest awards. I know that is one of the criteria because the media keep mentioning it for Frawley and they have mentioned it in the past but it isn't in you link either. I don't know why that article isn't up to date or showing correct information...
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Big Mac on October 02, 2014, 07:07:07 PM
Quote from: Grazz on October 02, 2014, 06:48:08 PM
Quote from: Big  Mac on October 02, 2014, 06:40:01 PM
Quote from: Grazz on October 02, 2014, 06:31:02 PM
Cheers JB. Don't like that system but if thats how it works then so be it.

It's more of an equalisation thing because stronger teams are far less reliant on their star players than a weak team is. So stronger teams would receive a lesser pick than a weak team would for the same player (even though they would both be awarded the same compensation in the AFL's eyes i.e. 'first round').

Thanks Mac, i understand the sentiment behind it but i dont see how it's working. We now have players saying i'll go here or here but nowhere else, of course their choices are top clubs or those with a finals chance. So the bigger clubs are loading up on this available talent and the equalisation as it were meant to be isnt really equalising the comp. The comp was more equal 5-6 years ago than it is now. I dont think this system is working as it was designed to do, my two cents worth.

I definitely agree with you there.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Mr.Craig on October 02, 2014, 07:10:33 PM
Quote from: Spite on October 02, 2014, 07:02:47 PM
Quote from: Mr.Craig on October 02, 2014, 06:50:20 PM
Quote from: Spite on October 02, 2014, 06:29:36 PM
Quote from: Mr.Craig on October 02, 2014, 06:25:37 PM
If the compensation is truly based around age and the size of the contract as the AFL claims then I would love to hear their justification for Buddy being worth Pick 19 and Frawley 3. I think it's just a sneaky way of essentially handing Melbourne a priority pick.

What? Buddy got the highest compensation possible, you just won the flag so you got it after your first pick. If you came last that year, you would get pick 2. It's all the formula, the formula has its flaws but there was no sneaky business, just a flawed forumula

These are the rules as published by the AFL.

"A club that has a net loss of players transferring to/from other clubs as free agents in one transfer period is entitled to compensation via National Draft picks allocated by the AFL.

The compensation formula produces a points rating for players based on:

1. The new contract of the free agent;
2. The age of the free agent.

Draft picks are allocated to clubs based on the net total points for free agents lost and gained during the transfer period.

Draft picks will be allocated to one of five places:

1st round
end of 1st round
2nd round
end of 2nd round
3rd round

In applying the formula, an expert committee reviews the formula outcomes. The committee has the power to recommend alternative outcomes to GM - Football Operations where the formula produces a materially anomalous result."

Nowhere in that does it stipulate that the compensation is tied to final ladder position or has to come after a team's selection in any given round. Hawthorn was given a pick at the end of the first round because that's what the AFL judged was fair compensation. You can argue that in the committee review stage it was suggested that due to Hawthorn's strong list they weren't deserving of a higher selection but it is not a specifically outlined in the rules.

Haha nah man, its because they published it incorrectly :P

http://www.afl.com.au/news/2013-02-03/press-for-changes-to-fa-compensation

"The first year of free agency saw clubs awarded compensation picks that were tied with the club's respective finishing ladder position. This meant St Kilda was awarded pick 13 for losing restricted free agent Brendon Goddard because the Saints already held pick 12.

But under the revised system discussed by some clubs, picks would only be allocated to the end of each round of the draft, meaning the Saints would have still received a first-round pick for Goddard but it would have been used at the end of the round (pick 24 overall in 2012.)"

The system was reviewed but there hasn't been any changes so I assume the first scenario still stands. It is tied to finishing order. Also in the formula there are other criteria such as where the player has finished in the clubs past best and fairest awards. I know that is one of the criteria because the media keep mentioning it for Frawley and they have mentioned it in the past but it isn't in you link either. I don't know why that article isn't up to date or showing correct information...

If you're saying the AFL don't know their own rules, well that I can believe. :D

Okay well, all I can say is that they misled me. :-[

Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Spite on October 02, 2014, 07:24:25 PM
Quote from: Mr.Craig on October 02, 2014, 07:10:33 PM
Quote from: Spite on October 02, 2014, 07:02:47 PM
Quote from: Mr.Craig on October 02, 2014, 06:50:20 PM
Quote from: Spite on October 02, 2014, 06:29:36 PM
Quote from: Mr.Craig on October 02, 2014, 06:25:37 PM
If the compensation is truly based around age and the size of the contract as the AFL claims then I would love to hear their justification for Buddy being worth Pick 19 and Frawley 3. I think it's just a sneaky way of essentially handing Melbourne a priority pick.

What? Buddy got the highest compensation possible, you just won the flag so you got it after your first pick. If you came last that year, you would get pick 2. It's all the formula, the formula has its flaws but there was no sneaky business, just a flawed forumula

These are the rules as published by the AFL.

"A club that has a net loss of players transferring to/from other clubs as free agents in one transfer period is entitled to compensation via National Draft picks allocated by the AFL.

The compensation formula produces a points rating for players based on:

1. The new contract of the free agent;
2. The age of the free agent.

Draft picks are allocated to clubs based on the net total points for free agents lost and gained during the transfer period.

Draft picks will be allocated to one of five places:

1st round
end of 1st round
2nd round
end of 2nd round
3rd round

In applying the formula, an expert committee reviews the formula outcomes. The committee has the power to recommend alternative outcomes to GM - Football Operations where the formula produces a materially anomalous result."

Nowhere in that does it stipulate that the compensation is tied to final ladder position or has to come after a team's selection in any given round. Hawthorn was given a pick at the end of the first round because that's what the AFL judged was fair compensation. You can argue that in the committee review stage it was suggested that due to Hawthorn's strong list they weren't deserving of a higher selection but it is not a specifically outlined in the rules.

Haha nah man, its because they published it incorrectly :P

http://www.afl.com.au/news/2013-02-03/press-for-changes-to-fa-compensation

"The first year of free agency saw clubs awarded compensation picks that were tied with the club's respective finishing ladder position. This meant St Kilda was awarded pick 13 for losing restricted free agent Brendon Goddard because the Saints already held pick 12.

But under the revised system discussed by some clubs, picks would only be allocated to the end of each round of the draft, meaning the Saints would have still received a first-round pick for Goddard but it would have been used at the end of the round (pick 24 overall in 2012.)"

The system was reviewed but there hasn't been any changes so I assume the first scenario still stands. It is tied to finishing order. Also in the formula there are other criteria such as where the player has finished in the clubs past best and fairest awards. I know that is one of the criteria because the media keep mentioning it for Frawley and they have mentioned it in the past but it isn't in you link either. I don't know why that article isn't up to date or showing correct information...

If you're saying the AFL don't know their own rules, well that I can believe. :D

Okay well, all I can say is that they misled me. :-[

Haha i think they posted a simple version for people to try and understand. I remember reading a few years ago in the Herald Sun the whole thing explained but it was really complicated! I cant find that same article again :(
They may have changed it and I could very well be wrong!
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Purple 77 on October 02, 2014, 07:49:55 PM
Quote from: Grazz on October 02, 2014, 06:16:26 PM
Quote from: Purple 77 on October 02, 2014, 06:01:52 PM
flower me Frawley, the one club I didn't want you to go to!

It would really be the icing on the flower-you-cake if we didn't get Pick 3 because the pay is less  >:(

Tbh Purps i can't see how Frawley is worth pick 3, a second round pick is more realistic. Do you think he's worth pick 3 when the likes of Buddy and Goddard were only worth second rnd picks. Dudge was saying having two years to run on his contract boost's his compo pick but to me that isn't right either. I just don't see him being worth that high a compo pick.

I think it's a joke that Frawley would attract Pick 3, but Mac and JBs make the good points regarding it. Realistically he is worth a pick in the 20s IMO.



IMO, melbourne desperately need this pick anyway to cover the structural loss Frawley, and to some extent Clark left us with.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Nige on October 02, 2014, 07:57:27 PM
Carlton are closing in on securing Kristian Jaksch, whilst the Hawks look close to gaining Jonathan O'Rourke with the Saints cooling interest in the pair of Giants.

St Kilda at this stage look as though they will be holding on to their first round pick.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Nige on October 02, 2014, 07:59:44 PM
The Western Bulldogs are looking at trading their First Round Pick (#5) and a player to Melbourne for the James Frawley Compensation Pick (If it is Pick #3) to recruit a Key Forward in this years National Draft according to Brett Anderson from Inside Footy.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Nails on October 02, 2014, 08:03:16 PM
Quote from: Nige on October 02, 2014, 07:59:44 PM
The Western Bulldogs are looking at trading their First Round Pick (#5) and a player to Melbourne for the James Frawley Compensation Pick (If it is Pick #3) to recruit a Key Forward in this years National Draft according to Brett Anderson from Inside Footy.

sounds like a few dicks are getting wet over McCartin
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Spite on October 02, 2014, 08:06:04 PM
Quote from: Nails on October 02, 2014, 08:03:16 PM
Quote from: Nige on October 02, 2014, 07:59:44 PM
The Western Bulldogs are looking at trading their First Round Pick (#5) and a player to Melbourne for the James Frawley Compensation Pick (If it is Pick #3) to recruit a Key Forward in this years National Draft according to Brett Anderson from Inside Footy.

sounds like a few dicks are getting wet over McCartin

I read this as;

"Carlton are the only team that can bid on Moore to stop Pies getting him at pick 28"

Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Grazz on October 02, 2014, 08:13:56 PM
Quote from: Purple 77 on October 02, 2014, 07:49:55 PM
Quote from: Grazz on October 02, 2014, 06:16:26 PM
Quote from: Purple 77 on October 02, 2014, 06:01:52 PM
flower me Frawley, the one club I didn't want you to go to!

It would really be the icing on the flower-you-cake if we didn't get Pick 3 because the pay is less  >:(

Tbh Purps i can't see how Frawley is worth pick 3, a second round pick is more realistic. Do you think he's worth pick 3 when the likes of Buddy and Goddard were only worth second rnd picks. Dudge was saying having two years to run on his contract boost's his compo pick but to me that isn't right either. I just don't see him being worth that high a compo pick.

I think it's a joke that Frawley would attract Pick 3, but Mac and JBs make the good points regarding it. Realistically he is worth a pick in the 20s IMO.



IMO, melbourne desperately need this pick anyway to cover the structural loss Frawley, and to some extent Clark left us with.

Yep fair enough mate, not having a go at the Dee's or you i just think the system is fast becoming flawed. The way it has been explained the Dee's should be granted pick 3 and fair enough.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: kilbluff1985 on October 03, 2014, 07:27:11 AM
free agency begins ;D
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Ricochet on October 03, 2014, 09:42:16 AM
talking about Schoenmakers atm and how he'd be a great get for Freo. Really don't mind that
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Nige on October 03, 2014, 09:49:11 AM
Yay, the fun begins.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Nige on October 03, 2014, 09:55:52 AM
Carlton is expected to secure Western Bulldogs forward Liam Jones soon after the trade period opens on Monday.

Jones has agreed to terms with the Blues and both clubs are believed to be satisfied pick No.43 is a sufficient swap.

Bulldog Jason Tutt is also expected to get to the Blues in exchange for Carlton's fourth round pick, No.62.

- Herald Sun
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: SydneyRox on October 03, 2014, 09:56:08 AM
hallahan to gold coast! good move for both ?
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Mat0369 on October 03, 2014, 10:23:16 AM
Quote from: Nige on October 03, 2014, 09:55:52 AM
Carlton is expected to secure Western Bulldogs forward Liam Jones soon after the trade period opens on Monday.

Jones has agreed to terms with the Blues and both clubs are believed to be satisfied pick No.43 is a sufficient swap.

Bulldog Jason Tutt is also expected to get to the Blues in exchange for Carlton's fourth round pick, No.62.

- Herald Sun

EEEEEEEWWWWWWWWWWW
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Mat0369 on October 03, 2014, 10:27:38 AM
Jarrad officially signed with North  :'(

So has Higgins
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Ricochet on October 03, 2014, 10:27:57 AM
Also this

- Carlton & Bulldogs have come to an agreement, Liam Jones & Jason Tutt for picks 43 & 62! Trade to be done after monday.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: roo boys! on October 03, 2014, 10:30:03 AM
Quote from: Mat0369 on October 03, 2014, 10:27:38 AM
Jarrad officially signed with North  :'(

So has Higgins
Sorry mate  :-\

But from a North perspective, two handy signings who can hopefully take the club to the next step. Good to see them getting active in the first couple hours of the FA window!

Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Ricochet on October 03, 2014, 10:37:56 AM
So Bullies have a couple of days to decide whether to match Norths offer for Higgins or not.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Ricochet on October 03, 2014, 10:45:11 AM
Jon Ralph reporting that Higgins has been offered a four year deal at 400k
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Ricochet on October 03, 2014, 11:28:45 AM
Geelong and Melbourne have reportedly agreed to Pick 33 in exchange for Mitch Clark, Melbourne will then on trade Pick 33 to Collingwood for Heritier Lumumba.
- Jon Ralph
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Vinny on October 03, 2014, 11:30:04 AM
I thought he was going to Hawks? What the flower is going on. :P
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Big Mac on October 03, 2014, 11:32:51 AM
Quote from: Vinny on October 03, 2014, 11:30:04 AM
I thought he was going to Hawks? What the flower is going on. :P

Frawley is the one going to the hawks  :P
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Vinny on October 03, 2014, 11:34:58 AM
Shiiiit. ;D
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Samsturmfels on October 03, 2014, 11:52:23 AM
hopefully George Burbury gets picked up.

Roos now have to many tall forwards now: Petrie, Brown, Daw, Black, Waite and Tarrant .

Tarrant to be traded?



#TradeRadio
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Big Mac on October 03, 2014, 11:55:25 AM
Is Majak still contracted?
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Ricochet on October 03, 2014, 12:00:36 PM
West Coast have offered a 2 year deal to Malceski
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: roo boys! on October 03, 2014, 12:05:14 PM
Quote from: Big  Mac on October 03, 2014, 11:55:25 AM
Is Majak still contracted?
Yeah to the end of 2015, as is Tarrant

Black to 2017
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: RaisyDaisy on October 03, 2014, 12:08:49 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on October 03, 2014, 12:00:36 PM
West Coast have offered a 2 year deal to Malceski

I'd be happy with that!

Malceski, Hurn and Waters rebounding off the HB would be delicious and dangerous!
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: SydneyRox on October 03, 2014, 12:12:39 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on October 03, 2014, 12:08:49 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on October 03, 2014, 12:00:36 PM
West Coast have offered a 2 year deal to Malceski

I'd be happy with that!

Malceski, Hurn and Waters rebounding off the HB would be delicious and dangerous!

2 years isnt enough. Swans have 2 on the table already and GC have 3 from reports
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Big Mac on October 03, 2014, 12:28:45 PM
Quote from: roo boys! on October 03, 2014, 12:05:14 PM
Quote from: Big  Mac on October 03, 2014, 11:55:25 AM
Is Majak still contracted?
Yeah to the end of 2015, as is Tarrant

Black to 2017

cheers - makes it very interesting
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: LF on October 03, 2014, 12:32:48 PM
Quote from: Samsturmfels on October 03, 2014, 11:52:23 AM
hopefully George Burbury gets picked up.

Roos now have to many tall forwards now: Petrie, Brown, Daw, Black, Waite and Tarrant .

Tarrant to be traded?



#TradeRadio

Well Petrie is only contracted until the end of next season so you would assume he'll retire then.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Nige on October 03, 2014, 12:34:52 PM
One of Daw or Tarrant is definitely done imo.

Even though Petrie has one year and Waite has two, they've got Aaron Black, Ben Brown and Mason Wood plus whichever one of Tarrant/Daw is retained.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: roo boys! on October 03, 2014, 12:37:10 PM
Quote from: LF on October 03, 2014, 12:32:48 PM
Quote from: Samsturmfels on October 03, 2014, 11:52:23 AM
hopefully George Burbury gets picked up.

Roos now have to many tall forwards now: Petrie, Brown, Daw, Black, Waite and Tarrant .

Tarrant to be traded?



#TradeRadio

Well Petrie is only contracted until the end of next season so you would assume he'll retire then.
I wouldn't be surprised to see him go on longer, especially if North, as many expect them to, will be pushing for premiership success around 2016.

Quote from: Nige on October 03, 2014, 12:34:52 PM
One of Daw or Tarrant is definitely done imo.

Even though Petrie has one year and Waite has two, they've got Aaron Black, Ben Brown and Mason Wood plus whichever one of Tarrant/Daw is retained.
Yeah you'd think so. Black Brown and Wood will most likely be the midfield in future years, unless they bring in another.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: RaisyDaisy on October 03, 2014, 12:47:33 PM
The West Australian reporting that the Eagles have pulled out of the race for Nick Malceski, baulking at the 30-year-old's wish for a three-year deal.

:(
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Vinny on October 03, 2014, 12:53:45 PM
Hope he goes to Gold Coast, would be some much needed experience.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Ricochet on October 03, 2014, 12:55:22 PM
 Essendon has signed Conor McKenna as a category B rookie.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Big Mac on October 03, 2014, 01:13:41 PM
Dees keen on Dahlhaus apparently
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Ricochet on October 03, 2014, 01:16:10 PM
Quote from: Big  Mac on October 03, 2014, 01:13:41 PM
Dees keen on Dahlhaus apparently
Yep and Bullies CEO jumping straight on the front foot saying he's def not on the table
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Nige on October 03, 2014, 01:18:01 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on October 03, 2014, 01:16:10 PM
Quote from: Big  Mac on October 03, 2014, 01:13:41 PM
Dees keen on Dahlhaus apparently
Yep and Bullies CEO jumping straight on the front foot saying he's def not on the table
Garlick was pretty quick to say no. Can't see them giving him up.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Purple 77 on October 03, 2014, 01:30:13 PM
Gotta love the dees activeness at chasing some good players! Very happy at their attitude so far  :D
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: My Chumps on October 03, 2014, 01:46:39 PM
I'd be demanding a trade if I were Aaron Black.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Ricochet on October 03, 2014, 01:47:38 PM
Quote from: My Chumps on October 03, 2014, 01:46:39 PM
I'd be demanding a trade to Freo if I were Aaron Black.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: T Dog on October 03, 2014, 01:48:16 PM
Quote from: My Chumps on October 03, 2014, 01:46:39 PM
I'd be demanding a trade if I were Aaron Black.

Yep..straight to the Pies   :)
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Big Mac on October 03, 2014, 01:53:01 PM
Quote from: T Dog on October 03, 2014, 01:48:16 PM
Quote from: My Chumps on October 03, 2014, 01:46:39 PM
I'd be demanding a trade if I were Aaron Black.

Yep..straight to the Pies   :)

I thought you already had Jesse White as your resident 'spud' forward?
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: T Dog on October 03, 2014, 02:03:26 PM
If we only had one Big Mac,  I would be a lot happier  >:(
This trade period is looking ominous for the Pies.
Could put them back a few years sadly.

On the upside..there just may be a great plan ready to be unrolled to replace the last 12 - 15 months player movements both from and to the club.  ???
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Samsturmfels on October 03, 2014, 02:48:53 PM
Hopefully Pies can get greenwood. Pick 4 and Golby, and it would also be good if we grabbed J.Garlett
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: LF on October 03, 2014, 02:50:08 PM
Quote from: Samsturmfels on October 03, 2014, 02:48:53 PM
Hopefully Pies can get greenwood. Pick 4 and Golby, and it would also be good if we grabbed J.Garlett

Levi Greenwood "had a great year...he's a player we don't want to lose", says Walsh. The next 48-72 hours is important to come to terms with Greenwood. "We don't think we're far away...we understand the attention in the market".
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: SydneyRox on October 03, 2014, 02:53:39 PM
Quote from: Samsturmfels on October 03, 2014, 02:48:53 PM
Hopefully Pies can get greenwood. Pick 4 and Golby, and it would also be good if we grabbed J.Garlett

that would be considered a pretty good trade period even losing beams...
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Vinny on October 03, 2014, 03:20:32 PM
I am 100% sure Greenwood will stay at North and it just an attempt for some more money.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Jroo on October 03, 2014, 03:22:16 PM
Quote from: Vinny on October 03, 2014, 03:20:32 PM
I am 100% sure Greenwood will stay at North and it just an attempt for some more money.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: SydneyRox on October 03, 2014, 03:24:15 PM
trade radio boys make a compelling arguement he wont fit in the 22 once you bring waite and higgins in
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Spite on October 03, 2014, 03:26:57 PM
Quote from: SydneyRox on October 03, 2014, 03:24:15 PM
trade radio boys make a compelling arguement he wont fit in the 22 once you bring waite and higgins in

24 touches in a half in a must win finals should somewhat cement his place?

Bastinac will be dropped for sure and probably wright for higgins?

I would absolutely love Levi if he came to the Pies!
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Jroo on October 03, 2014, 03:29:25 PM
Quote from: SydneyRox on October 03, 2014, 03:24:15 PM
trade radio boys make a compelling arguement he wont fit in the 22 once you bring waite and higgins in
Lol, he was close to their best player this year. I wouldn't mind him at the Tiges!
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Vinny on October 03, 2014, 03:31:29 PM
He averaged the 2nd most disposals and 4th most tackles at North. Will be a chance for BNF you would think too.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Grazz on October 03, 2014, 03:33:07 PM
To get Waite and Higgins is very handy for the Roo's but if it leads to loosing Greenwood due to salary issues then it really tarnishes the deal. Roo's have to retain Greenwood but is the money there.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: roo boys! on October 03, 2014, 03:37:12 PM
Quote from: Grazz on October 03, 2014, 03:33:07 PM
To get Waite and Higgins is very handy for the Roo's but if it leads to loosing Greenwood due to salary issues then it really tarnishes the deal. Roo's have to retain Greenwood but is the money there.
That's the issue I'm a bit concerned about. Not sure how North is sitting salary cap wise but would hope they've ensured they have enough to keep Greenwood.

Quote from: JROO8 on October 03, 2014, 03:29:25 PM
Quote from: SydneyRox on October 03, 2014, 03:24:15 PM
trade radio boys make a compelling arguement he wont fit in the 22 once you bring waite and higgins in
Lol, he was close to their best player this year. I wouldn't mind him at the Tiges!
Greenwood will go close to taking home the Syd Barker tonight as Vinny said, no way he's not best 22. Doesn't even play the same role as Higgins or Waite so not sure how that comes about.

Would think Jacobs/Mullett/Bastinac give way for Higgins, and perhaps Black for Waite.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Mailman the 2nd on October 03, 2014, 03:38:11 PM
Malceski's manager says he's keen to stay at Sydney
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Jroo on October 03, 2014, 03:39:41 PM
Quote from: JROO8 on October 03, 2014, 03:29:25 PM
Quote from: SydneyRox on October 03, 2014, 03:24:15 PM
trade radio boys make a compelling arguement he wont fit in the 22 once you bring waite and higgins in
Lol, he was close to their best player this year. I wouldn't mind him at the Tiges!
Greenwood will go close to taking home the Syd Barker tonight as Vinny said, no way he's not best 22. Doesn't even play the same role as Higgins or Waite so not sure how that comes about.

Would think Jacobs/Mullett/Bastinac give way for Higgins, and perhaps Black for Waite.
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Yeah, I reckon he finishes top 2.

Agreed, Black for Waite is a no-brainer and Greenwood is easily ahead of the others. No way will he not be best 22.

I don't think he'll leave, but if another club comes to him with a much better offer than Norf's, I'm sure he'd consider it.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Capper on October 03, 2014, 03:44:49 PM
i thought North were in salary cap trouble? yet they bring in Missy Higgins and Waite. How can they possibly keep Greenwood then
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Mailman the 2nd on October 03, 2014, 03:47:21 PM
Doubt Greenwood would be on much dough at all. You'd have to be wary whether he'll return to his rubbish form from past years
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Ricochet on October 03, 2014, 03:47:51 PM
Quote from: tabs on October 03, 2014, 03:44:49 PM
i thought North were in salary cap trouble? yet they bring in Missy Higgins and Waite. How can they possibly keep Greenwood then
Must be learning off Sydney ;)
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: My Chumps on October 03, 2014, 03:54:10 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on October 03, 2014, 03:47:51 PM
Quote from: tabs on October 03, 2014, 03:44:49 PM
i thought North were in salary cap trouble? yet they bring in Missy Higgins and Waite. How can they possibly keep Greenwood then
Must be learning off Sydney ;)
Still a little disappointed we didn't sign Frawley :P
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: roo boys! on October 03, 2014, 03:59:27 PM
Quote from: tabs on October 03, 2014, 03:44:49 PM
i thought North were in salary cap trouble? yet they bring in Missy Higgins and Waite. How can they possibly keep Greenwood then
Were they? Concerning  :-\

Perhaps a couple moving onto the veterans list or something in that regard. Not too sure how the new veterans list works


Quote from: Mailman the 2nd on October 03, 2014, 03:47:21 PM
Doubt Greenwood would be on much dough at all. You'd have to be wary whether he'll return to his rubbish form from past years
Recall hearing its around 300-350k
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Capper on October 03, 2014, 04:02:25 PM
FS and academy players named

http://www.afl.com.au/news/2014-10-03/drafts-dynamic-dozen

Collingwood
Darcy Moore (Father-son)

Western Bulldogs
Zaine Cordy (Father-son)

Melbourne
Billy Stretch (Father-son)

West Coast
Alec Waterman (Father-son)

Sydney Swans
Isaac Heeney (academy)
Jack Hiscox (academy)
Abe Davis (academy)

GWS Giants
Jack Steele (academy)
Jeremy Finlayson (academy)

Brisbane Lions
Josh Clayton (Father-son)
Liam Dawson (academy)
Harris Andrews (academy)

Jake Long, the son of Essendon legend Michael Long, has been nominated under the pre-selection rookie draft rule, where the club will get access to him if he is not picked in the national draft.

Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Capper on October 03, 2014, 04:03:11 PM
Quote from: My Chumps on October 03, 2014, 03:54:10 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on October 03, 2014, 03:47:51 PM
Quote from: tabs on October 03, 2014, 03:44:49 PM
i thought North were in salary cap trouble? yet they bring in Missy Higgins and Waite. How can they possibly keep Greenwood then
Must be learning off Sydney ;)
Still a little disappointed we didn't sign Frawley :P
We will get Ryder though  8)
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Ricochet on October 03, 2014, 05:43:48 PM
Patrick Keane ‏@AFL_PKeane
WBulldogs have advised AFL they will not match NMelb offer for Restricted Free Agent Shaun Higgins. Higgins now able to join Kangaroos.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Ricochet on October 03, 2014, 05:47:28 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on October 03, 2014, 05:43:48 PM
Patrick Keane ‏@AFL_PKeane
WBulldogs have advised AFL they will not match NMelb offer for Restricted Free Agent Shaun Higgins. Higgins now able to join Kangaroos.
also...


AFL has advised Carlton that due to contract amount offer to J Waite & player's age, there will be no compensation for his move to NMelb.

AFL has advised WBulldogs that due to NMelb contract amount offer to SHiggins & player's age, club will be eligible for r2 compensation pick
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: SydneyRox on October 03, 2014, 06:20:21 PM
round 2 seems high to me?
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: meow meow on October 03, 2014, 06:24:05 PM
Quote from: SydneyRox on October 03, 2014, 06:20:21 PM
round 2 seems high to me?

It is too high. He's an absolute spud, the most overrated player in the competition! Soft as butter! Lazy! Got dropped this season because he is just not very good. He's almost as shower as Liam Jones.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Mailman the 2nd on October 03, 2014, 06:25:52 PM
Quote from: meow meow on October 03, 2014, 06:24:05 PM
Quote from: SydneyRox on October 03, 2014, 06:20:21 PM
round 2 seems high to me?

It is too high. He's an absolute spud, the most overrated player in the competition! Soft as butter! Lazy! Got dropped this season because he is just not very good. He's almost as shower as Liam Jones.

Wouldn't call him overrated, don't many people rate him too highly. Definitely wouldn't be 2nd round for mine though.

Dogs get lucky, chance to get another strong player if they pick right
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Nige on October 03, 2014, 06:27:47 PM
Quote from: Mailman the 2nd on October 03, 2014, 06:25:52 PM
Quote from: meow meow on October 03, 2014, 06:24:05 PM
Quote from: SydneyRox on October 03, 2014, 06:20:21 PM
round 2 seems high to me?

It is too high. He's an absolute spud, the most overrated player in the competition! Soft as butter! Lazy! Got dropped this season because he is just not very good. He's almost as shower as Liam Jones.

Wouldn't call him overrated, don't many people rate him too highly. Definitely wouldn't be 2nd round for mine though.

Dogs get lucky, chance to get another strong player if they pick right
I think you took meow's post a tad too literally...
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: meow meow on October 03, 2014, 06:32:59 PM
Seriously though, if Shaun Hampson is worth pick 28 then Higgins is worth pick 26. He'll play 80+ games for North
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Mat0369 on October 03, 2014, 06:33:11 PM
Nah, he is pretty shower

I think if the Dogs get a 2nd rounder for Higgins Melbourne are guaranteed pick 3 for Chip
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Ricochet on October 03, 2014, 06:37:54 PM
Remember guys compo picks are based on $$$ and age, not ability. so can't really compare players
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Mailman the 2nd on October 03, 2014, 06:40:00 PM
Quote from: Nige on October 03, 2014, 06:27:47 PM
Quote from: Mailman the 2nd on October 03, 2014, 06:25:52 PM
Quote from: meow meow on October 03, 2014, 06:24:05 PM
Quote from: SydneyRox on October 03, 2014, 06:20:21 PM
round 2 seems high to me?

It is too high. He's an absolute spud, the most overrated player in the competition! Soft as butter! Lazy! Got dropped this season because he is just not very good. He's almost as shower as Liam Jones.

Wouldn't call him overrated, don't many people rate him too highly. Definitely wouldn't be 2nd round for mine though.

Dogs get lucky, chance to get another strong player if they pick right
I think you took meow's post a tad too literally...

Sorry I really couldn't see the sarcasm even looking back at it now.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Mat0369 on October 03, 2014, 06:41:50 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on October 03, 2014, 06:37:54 PM
Remember guys compo picks are based on $$$ and age, not ability. so can't really compare players

Hence why if Higgins is worth a 2nd rounder then Chip is worth pick 3. I am expecting Chip has a longer contract worth more money then Higgins
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Nige on October 03, 2014, 06:47:48 PM
Quote from: Mailman the 2nd on October 03, 2014, 06:40:00 PM
Quote from: Nige on October 03, 2014, 06:27:47 PM
Quote from: Mailman the 2nd on October 03, 2014, 06:25:52 PM
Quote from: meow meow on October 03, 2014, 06:24:05 PM
Quote from: SydneyRox on October 03, 2014, 06:20:21 PM
round 2 seems high to me?

It is too high. He's an absolute spud, the most overrated player in the competition! Soft as butter! Lazy! Got dropped this season because he is just not very good. He's almost as shower as Liam Jones.

Wouldn't call him overrated, don't many people rate him too highly. Definitely wouldn't be 2nd round for mine though.

Dogs get lucky, chance to get another strong player if they pick right
I think you took meow's post a tad too literally...

Sorry I really couldn't see the sarcasm even looking back at it now.
Didn't say it was sarcastic, I just said you took it a bit too literally.  :P
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: tbagrocks on October 03, 2014, 06:49:45 PM
Face it, AFL free agency is the worst concept in sport, with the compensation incuded

I blame that idiot Dumbetriou as usual! Bet he doesn't give back the money he stole though
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Mat0369 on October 03, 2014, 06:51:16 PM
FA is fine, it is just some clubs have no idea how to take advantage of the system yet
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Ricochet on October 03, 2014, 06:52:37 PM
Quote from: Mat0369 on October 03, 2014, 06:41:50 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on October 03, 2014, 06:37:54 PM
Remember guys compo picks are based on $$$ and age, not ability. so can't really compare players

Hence why if Higgins is worth a 2nd rounder then Chip is worth pick 3. I am expecting Chip has a longer contract worth more money then Higgins
yeh was more at the Hampson comparisons that have pooped up a few times.
North supposedly tabled a four year 400k deal and Frawley has been rumoured to take less money than other offers to go to Hawks so it's going to be line ball whether Melb get 3 or not


Quote from: Mat0369 on October 03, 2014, 06:51:16 PM
FA is fine, it is just some clubs have no idea how to take advantage of the system yet
agree.  Think we're in the minority that think so though
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Mat0369 on October 03, 2014, 06:56:13 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on October 03, 2014, 06:52:37 PM
yeh was more at the Hampson comparisons that have pooped up a few times.
North supposedly tabled a four year 400k deal and Frawley has been rumoured to take less money than other offers to go to Hawks so it's going to be line ball whether Melb get 3 or not

agree.  Think we're in the minority that think so though

People are going to complain that the best team in Hawthorn got Frawley (remember they have a lot of cash they were going to use to keep Buddy)

Then they will complain that Melbourne were compensated for losing Frawley with pick 3

The moral of the story, people are going to complain
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: meow meow on October 03, 2014, 07:08:01 PM
Hawks would have lost Jordan Lewis if Buddy had have stayed. The fact that the salary cap opened up enough so that the Hawks could keep him, and are able to bring in Frawley (without needing to use a pick) is proof that there shouldn't be compensation picks given. The salary cap space opened up is enough compensation. When extra picks are handed out it throws the whole equalisation system of a salary cap and draft out of whack.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: tbagrocks on October 03, 2014, 07:21:05 PM
Quote from: meow meow on October 03, 2014, 07:08:01 PM
Hawks would have lost Jordan Lewis if Buddy had have stayed. The fact that the salary cap opened up enough so that the Hawks could keep him, and are able to bring in Frawley (without needing to use a pick) is proof that there shouldn't be compensation picks given. The salary cap space opened up is enough compensation. When extra picks are handed out it throws the whole equalisation system of a salary cap and draft out of whack.
Blah blah, what are Melbourne supposed to do? ???

Yeah FA works wonders, StKilda and the Demons going great guns with this new age device! ::)
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Ricochet on October 03, 2014, 07:23:54 PM
Quote from: tbagrocks on October 03, 2014, 07:21:05 PM
Quote from: meow meow on October 03, 2014, 07:08:01 PM
Hawks would have lost Jordan Lewis if Buddy had have stayed. The fact that the salary cap opened up enough so that the Hawks could keep him, and are able to bring in Frawley (without needing to use a pick) is proof that there shouldn't be compensation picks given. The salary cap space opened up is enough compensation. When extra picks are handed out it throws the whole equalisation system of a salary cap and draft out of whack.
Blah blah, what are Melbourne supposed to do? ???

Yeah FA works wonders, StKilda and the Demons going great guns with this new age device! ::)
Its only been a couple of year man. I'm sure Demons will be much better off in 3 years with whoever they take with 3 then keeping Frawley
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: meow meow on October 03, 2014, 07:34:07 PM
They'll be much better when they add this year's pick 2, plus three former top 4 picks in Hogan, Toumpas and Trengove who didn't play 5 games between them this year. FA isn't why they're down the bottom of the ladder.

They can sign another FA next season with the cap space opened up, without needing to use a pick, similar to how the Hawks did it with Buddy/Frawley AND they will have an extra pick #3 on their list.

All they need to do is find someone who is chasing money instead of a premiership.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Mat0369 on October 03, 2014, 07:37:27 PM
Quote from: meow meow on October 03, 2014, 07:08:01 PM
Hawks would have lost Jordan Lewis if Buddy had have stayed. The fact that the salary cap opened up enough so that the Hawks could keep him, and are able to bring in Frawley (without needing to use a pick) is proof that there shouldn't be compensation picks given. The salary cap space opened up is enough compensation. When extra picks are handed out it throws the whole equalisation system of a salary cap and draft out of whack.

The compensation is needed for the lower clubs at this point in time. There are still restrictions on player movement and while having money in the salary cap is a good thing for a top club that loses a highly regarded player (Buddy), the lower clubs struggle to attract the attention of these marquee players. By giving them an adequate compensation pick in return for the loss it allows them to build the list from within and then attract these guns while they are on the way up. In the case of Melbourne, if they do manage to get pick 3, they can then offload this with pick 2 to try and attract a gun of their own. They are not going to attract someone in the right age bracket that the club will want to target as they have restrictions. Until players are allowed to move without restrictions the ideal situation of no compensation won't exist. The fact players have to wait so long to become unrestricted or restricted free agents hampers this process and the picks are needed, especially in the case of a team like Melbourne. If Melbourne chose to let go of Frawley this year, with compo picks playing no role, and their were no restrictions on player movement, they would have gone after someone like Fyfe hard. They would have been able offer something like Fyfe $1.2 mill a year that Freo had the option of matching (he would be restricted). However the current restrictions in place as to the age group of players that become available don't allow them to do this.

Also tbag, the Saints allowed their players to walk and have received adequate compensation in the likes of Dunstan for the Big Boy trade and trading on the Dal pick (which they mutually decided to exercise the option of him becoming a FA) for Billy Longer. They want to look to the future and build from the ground up.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: meow meow on October 03, 2014, 08:03:27 PM
Quote from: Mat0369 on October 03, 2014, 07:37:27 PM
Quote from: meow meow on October 03, 2014, 07:08:01 PM
Hawks would have lost Jordan Lewis if Buddy had have stayed. The fact that the salary cap opened up enough so that the Hawks could keep him, and are able to bring in Frawley (without needing to use a pick) is proof that there shouldn't be compensation picks given. The salary cap space opened up is enough compensation. When extra picks are handed out it throws the whole equalisation system of a salary cap and draft out of whack.

The compensation is needed for the lower clubs at this point in time. There are still restrictions on player movement and while having money in the salary cap is a good thing for a top club that loses a highly regarded player (Buddy), the lower clubs struggle to attract the attention of these marquee players. By giving them an adequate compensation pick in return for the loss it allows them to build the list from within and then attract these guns while they are on the way up. In the case of Melbourne, if they do manage to get pick 3, they can then offload this with pick 2 to try and attract a gun of their own. They are not going to attract someone in the right age bracket that the club will want to target as they have restrictions. Until players are allowed to move without restrictions the ideal situation of no compensation won't exist. The fact players have to wait so long to become unrestricted or restricted free agents hampers this process and the picks are needed, especially in the case of a team like Melbourne. If Melbourne chose to let go of Frawley this year, with compo picks playing no role, and their were no restrictions on player movement, they would have gone after someone like Fyfe hard. They would have been able offer something like Fyfe $1.2 mill a year that Freo had the option of matching (he would be restricted). However the current restrictions in place as to the age group of players that become available don't allow them to do this.

Also tbag, the Saints allowed their players to walk and have received adequate compensation in the likes of Dunstan for the Big Boy trade and trading on the Dal pick (which they mutually decided to exercise the option of him becoming a FA) for Billy Longer. They want to look to the future and build from the ground up.

The draft is what allows teams from build from within. Melbourne get an advantage over Carlton as it is due to ladder position. The Blues are being disadvantaged even more with Melb receiving an extra first round pick. All it is going to do is create an uneven draft.

I'm not sure that I understand your logic. How could Melb chase 1.2 mil Fyfe by losing a 500k player in Frawley?
Melbourne can front load contracts this year with the money they would have paid Chip, then next season there will be more room in the cap so they can go out and get a FA to replace Chip. It might take 12 months but it ends up being fair. The salary cap evens things out. The fact that they'll also have pick #3 on their list is an unfair leg up on every other team in the competition.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Mat0369 on October 03, 2014, 08:13:30 PM
Quote from: meow meow on October 03, 2014, 08:03:27 PM
The draft is what allows teams from build from within. Melbourne get an advantage over Carlton as it is due to ladder position. The Blues are being disadvantaged even more with Melb receiving an extra first round pick. All it is going to do is create an uneven draft.

I'm not sure that I understand your logic. How could Melb chase 1.2 mil Fyfe by losing a 500k player in Frawley?
Melbourne can front load contracts this year with the money they would have paid Chip, then next season there will be more room in the cap so they can go out and get a FA to replace Chip. It might take 12 months but it ends up being fair. The salary cap evens things out. The fact that they'll also have pick #3 on their list is an unfair leg up on every other team in the competition.

I will break this up

How can they chase Fyfe? Because they also lost Mitch Clark. Frawley to stay at Melbourne would have cost them about $800k  a season (that's what he was asking). The 800k they gain from losing Chip and the 700k+ they get off the books with Clark allows them to chase after Fyfe. It is addition by subtraction, but the way the FA rules are set, a side like Melbourne is severely hampered in chasing a top star. This is why they are compensated through the draft for losing their best players. When it will come to the next crop of FA to choose a club, they will most likely go to a premiership contender on less cash then close to a mill at the Dees. The only way Melbourne are going to attract the type of player they want is through a trade and that can only happen by giving them draft concessions to throw around at other clubs.

Also to say that Carlton are being disadvantaged in the draft, there is not that great a difference from pick 5 to pick 6. It is not like all the clubs are being knocked down 8 spots in the draft, it is one pick in the first round going to a team that has lost a key player to an opposing club.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: BoredSaint on October 03, 2014, 08:19:27 PM
People are saying Hawks were hard done by by getting only pick 19 for Buddy. Imagine if they got pick 3 or something after just winning the flag..
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: meow meow on October 03, 2014, 08:35:33 PM
They didn't gain 800K in the salary cap just because he was asking for that much. They probably opened up 600K which is what they would have been paying him.

Clark is irrelevant to the Frawley deal. That money is opened up regardless of losing a free agent. That might be spent to lure Lumumba and another player to the club via traditional trades so you can't include that in your example.

I think you are underestimating greed. Throw a million dollar contract at enough players and one will budge.

I'll show you how FA evens things up without the need of a compo pick. 1.2 million dollars is being spent every season.

2015
600K to Frawley, 600K to Jones             OR              Front load Jones' contract for 1.2M
2016
600K to Frawley, 600K to Jones             OR              300K to Jones, 900K on FA Ben Reid     
2016
600K to Frawley, 600K to Jones             OR              300K to Jones, 900K on Ben Reid
2017
600K to Frawley, 600K to Jones             OR              600K to Jones, 600K on Ben Reid

Nathan Jones gets paid a total of 2.4 mil regardless.

The Demons could lure Reid on a 3 year deal worth 2.4 mil (average of 800K a season). They could pick him up as a free agent, which doesn't require them to use a pick. Reid is just as good as Frawley so they have lost nothing there. AND they have the player taken with that extra pick #3 on their list.

Is playing one season without a "gun" player worth getting a pick 3 who'll play 12-14 seasons?
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Pkbaldy on October 03, 2014, 08:35:39 PM
Quote from: BoredSaint on October 03, 2014, 08:19:27 PM
People are saying Hawks were hard done by by getting only pick 19 for Buddy. Imagine if they got pick 3 or something after just winning the flag..

They'd take our Billings  :'(
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: tbagrocks on October 03, 2014, 08:51:25 PM
So, cant anyone see the problem here? Solving who and what gets what for whom in trade draft concessions? Sheesh, what a mess

Yeah and just nah, FA will never work is as most of us do. Want an equal competition. NEVER
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Big Mac on October 03, 2014, 09:17:10 PM
I just realised this.

In 2010, Frawley signed a deal with Melbourne which would last until 2014. In order for Melbourne to meet the minimum salary cap, they heavily front-ended his contract, so much so that in his final years at the club he would no longer be one of the highest paid players there. In 2012, the AFL introduced Free Agency, which stipulates that if a player in their final year at their respective club does not receive a salary in the top 25%, they will become an unrestricted free agent. Melbourne had no knowledge of such a rule at the time of signing Frawley's contract, and as such, Frawley receives a salary in 2014 that does not fall in the top 25% making him an unrestricted free agent.

Now, assume that Frawley decides to accept a deal from Hawthorn which would see him earn 450k over 4 years, a deal Melbourne would have easily matched had he been a restricted free agent. If this deal is not significant enough to warrant first round compensation, could Melbourne take legal action?
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Ziplock on October 03, 2014, 09:38:39 PM
Quote from: Big  Mac on October 03, 2014, 09:17:10 PM
I just realised this.

In 2010, Frawley signed a deal with Melbourne which would last until 2014. In order for Melbourne to meet the minimum salary cap, they heavily front-ended his contract, so much so that in his final years at the club he would no longer be one of the highest paid players there. In 2012, the AFL introduced Free Agency, which stipulates that if a player in their final year at their respective club does not receive a salary in the top 25%, they will become an unrestricted free agent. Melbourne had no knowledge of such a rule at the time of signing Frawley's contract, and as such, Frawley receives a salary in 2014 that does not fall in the top 25% making him an unrestricted free agent.

Now, assume that Frawley decides to accept a deal from Hawthorn which would see him earn 450k over 4 years, a deal Melbourne would have easily matched had he been a restricted free agent. If this deal is not significant enough to warrant first round compensation, could Melbourne take legal action?

I thought only bottom 25% were unrestricted free agents?
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: meow meow on October 03, 2014, 09:40:18 PM
No. That would be like every club suing the AFL when they changed the veterans list rule.

4 years at 450K would get band 2 compo - end of round 1 pick.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: tor01doc on October 03, 2014, 09:49:13 PM
Quote from: tbagrocks on October 03, 2014, 08:51:25 PM
So, cant anyone see the problem here? Solving who and what gets what for whom in trade draft concessions? Sheesh, what a mess

Yeah and just nah, FA will never work is as most of us do. Want an equal competition. NEVER

The draft needs to be more lop sided in favour of teams finishing lower.

In basketball - you only have 5 on the court at any one time.

AFL teams need more favours to get back up the ladder.

Maybe of the first 36 picks, top 2 get none, teams 3 - 6 get one, teams 7 - 11 get 2, teams 12 - 16 get 3 and bottom 4 get 4 each - or something similar using lottery system.

Free agency has actually helped better teams so draft needs to rebalance that.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: elephants on October 03, 2014, 09:53:55 PM
Quote from: meow meow on October 03, 2014, 06:24:05 PM
Quote from: SydneyRox on October 03, 2014, 06:20:21 PM
round 2 seems high to me?

It is too high. He's an absolute spud, the most overrated player in the competition! Soft as butter! Lazy! Got dropped this season because he is just not very good. He's almost as shower as Liam Jones.

Dropped because of his intention to leave. No point playing a want away player over a developing kid!
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Big Mac on October 03, 2014, 09:57:15 PM
Quote from: Ziplock on October 03, 2014, 09:38:39 PM
Quote from: Big  Mac on October 03, 2014, 09:17:10 PM
I just realised this.

In 2010, Frawley signed a deal with Melbourne which would last until 2014. In order for Melbourne to meet the minimum salary cap, they heavily front-ended his contract, so much so that in his final years at the club he would no longer be one of the highest paid players there. In 2012, the AFL introduced Free Agency, which stipulates that if a player in their final year at their respective club does not receive a salary in the top 25%, they will become an unrestricted free agent. Melbourne had no knowledge of such a rule at the time of signing Frawley's contract, and as such, Frawley receives a salary in 2014 that does not fall in the top 25% making him an unrestricted free agent.

Now, assume that Frawley decides to accept a deal from Hawthorn which would see him earn 450k over 4 years, a deal Melbourne would have easily matched had he been a restricted free agent. If this deal is not significant enough to warrant first round compensation, could Melbourne take legal action?

I thought only bottom 25% were unrestricted free agents?

Copy and paste issues but it explains it all here - http://www.afl.com.au/afl-hq/the-afl-explained/free-agency (http://www.afl.com.au/afl-hq/the-afl-explained/free-agency)
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Big Mac on October 03, 2014, 10:02:37 PM
Quote from: meow meow on October 03, 2014, 09:40:18 PM
No. That would be like every club suing the AFL when they changed the veterans list rule.

Would you mind explaining? I don't think I was old to enough to understand back then, or more likely just not old enough to care  :P
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: meow meow on October 03, 2014, 10:08:49 PM
Quote from: Big  Mac on October 03, 2014, 10:02:37 PM
Quote from: meow meow on October 03, 2014, 09:40:18 PM
No. That would be like every club suing the AFL when they changed the veterans list rule.

Would you mind explaining? I don't think I was old to enough to understand back then, or more likely just not old enough to care  :P

Clubs gave players contracts based on the assumption that they would be able to pay half their wage outside of the cap. Then the AFL changed the rules and that would have affected list management and made some teams have to cut a player that they originally could afford. There's not much difference here.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: meow meow on October 03, 2014, 10:14:36 PM
In 2020 the Dogs are going to finish last, and lose 10 star players to free agency, and then hold picks 1-11.

The remaining players will have their contracts heavily front loaded and the kids will be paid peanuts.

In 2021 the Dogs will go out and sign 10 superstars via free agency with the space left in the salary cap. So in the space of 2 seasons they will have replaced every player they lost with like-for-like, and gotten 12 first round draft picks.

That would be possible under the current system. Fair?
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: tbagrocks on October 03, 2014, 10:31:28 PM
Quote from: meow meow on October 03, 2014, 10:14:36 PM
In 2020 the Dogs are going to finish last, and lose 10 star players to free agency, and then hold picks 1-11.

The remaining players will have their contracts heavily front loaded and the kids will be paid peanuts.

In 2021 the Dogs will go out and sign 10 superstars via free agency with the space left in the salary cap. So in the space of 2 seasons they will have replaced every player they lost with like-for-like, and gotten 12 first round draft picks.

That would be possible under the current system. Fair?
No. But sheesh, maybe talk actual sense to actual circumstances?
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: strikes91 on October 03, 2014, 10:44:19 PM
(http://cdndata.bigfooty.com/2014/10/83837_f3f462938f060bd0cbd0e5be98fbf9b9.jpg)

(http://cdndata.bigfooty.com/2014/10/83830_39ed950317c84ca4deff05245163ab4f.jpg)

wont be at the pies next year fo sure
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Samsturmfels on October 03, 2014, 10:46:50 PM
What do u guys think of this 3-Way trade idea
Beams to Lions and Merrett or Patfull to Sydney
pick 4 + Sam Reid to Pies
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Samsturmfels on October 03, 2014, 10:48:51 PM
Quote from: strikes91 on October 03, 2014, 10:44:19 PM
(http://cdndata.bigfooty.com/2014/10/83837_f3f462938f060bd0cbd0e5be98fbf9b9.jpg)

(http://cdndata.bigfooty.com/2014/10/83830_39ed950317c84ca4deff05245163ab4f.jpg)

wont be at the pies next year fo sure
That's pretty funny
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Mailman the 2nd on October 03, 2014, 10:49:45 PM
Sydney wont be trading Reid for Merrett or for Patful. They're already developing him as a player who can play back
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Mat0369 on October 04, 2014, 12:01:44 AM
This is the way FA should work

All players have a 2 year rookie deal, they are untouchable by other clubs once that deal expires

At the end of their next contract they are restricted FA's, it works the same way as it does now, but teams can place a tender on these players.

The way the tender work is if they fit into a pricing/draft bracket (high paid player, former high pick) the team can place a round tender in that position. So for example, if Frawley was a restricted FA, they can place a first round tender on him. That means Frawley can sign a 1 year deal the team at that tendered price, sign a contract extension with his current team or teams can place a bid on him. If the team puts a bid on him Melbourne can choose to match or they get a 1st round pick from the team that signs him. If a player signs a tender, they effectively sign a 1 year deal. At the end of that contract they can either become an unrestricted free agent or be franchise tagged by the team

A franchise tag means a team signs the player to a 1 year deal where they get a contract that is a 1 year deal with an average salary of the top 10 highest paid players in their position.

So after the restricted FA contract, players become unrestricted and can leave for nothing, however if a team loses more then they gain in the FA period, they can be compensated in draft picks from the end of the 3rd round and each round after.

I can pretty much guarantee this is the mold the AFL will follow and in about 5 years time or whenever the next CBA is up, this is how it will work

Because FA is still in it's infancy and they have restricted movement, teams will be compensated accordingly through draft picks as they can't go out and chase younger guys to fill the void left by the older players leaving to play in premiership windows.



I also want to make the point that the good teams will still build from within. They will draft and develop their own players, they won't be going to free agency to fix their issues. Does anyone honestly believe that Hawthorn won their last two premierships due to free agency? They built the majority of that list, they did get a few key players but they were smart about who they targeted and traded for them. Teams that will get into bidding wars or try and raid all the free agents available will not succeed. Go and have a look at the NFL. The best teams in the league built their squads. They have 53 man rosters so it is probably the closest thing we can get to the NFL in terms of roster size. Check out the Washington Redskins and their history through free agency and quick fixes. Their is a proven formula and the smart teams are exploiting it while the not so smart sides are playing catch-up.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Big Mac on October 04, 2014, 11:49:09 AM
Teams might not build their list from free agency but that's not the issue. The issue is that teams challenging for a premiership can constantly keep 'topping up' on talent and never require a rebuild because of a constant influx of star players. They can also pay  these players less than market value because of the lure of success. The weaker teams that these players are coming from receive compensation, develop the player and then have them taken from a top club as soon as they hit their prime. The weak team constantly has players leaving the club and therefore is never able to actually challenge for anything, again causing more players to leave for success.

Meow also mentions that weaker clubs can simply throw money at free agents to get them to their club. But how much extra do these free agents need to be paid? There really isn't much difference between earning 600k a year or 700/800k a year. Players still live the same lifestyle and can still build a sizeable nest egg. Why not have a premiership medallion to go along with it as well?

What about something like Hardwick's suggestion?

http://www.afl.com.au/news/2014-07-31/hardwicks-nfl-solution (http://www.afl.com.au/news/2014-07-31/hardwicks-nfl-solution)
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Ringo on October 04, 2014, 12:36:10 PM
Pies have issued an ultimatum to Brisbane to have deal for Beams completed by 5:00pm on Friday.

They are still demanding Pick 4/5 and a Prize player so the week will be interesting. Beams can walk to PSD next year and Pies will get nothing so trust they do not remain pig headed as this is way over for Beams. Also Pick 4/5 which Brisbane is offering is way under,

On another note Lions have fielded enquiries from Bulldogs, Crows and demons for Sauce Merrett,
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: GoLions on October 04, 2014, 02:19:25 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on October 03, 2014, 06:52:37 PM
Quote from: Mat0369 on October 03, 2014, 06:41:50 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on October 03, 2014, 06:37:54 PM
Remember guys compo picks are based on $$$ and age, not ability. so can't really compare players

Hence why if Higgins is worth a 2nd rounder then Chip is worth pick 3. I am expecting Chip has a longer contract worth more money then Higgins
yeh was more at the Hampson comparisons that have pooped up a few times.
North supposedly tabled a four year 400k deal and Frawley has been rumoured to take less money than other offers to go to Hawks so it's going to be line ball whether Melb get 3 or not
I can't be the only one who laughed at this.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Ricochet on October 04, 2014, 04:03:33 PM
Quote from: GoLions on October 04, 2014, 02:19:25 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on October 03, 2014, 06:52:37 PM
Quote from: Mat0369 on October 03, 2014, 06:41:50 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on October 03, 2014, 06:37:54 PM
Remember guys compo picks are based on $$$ and age, not ability. so can't really compare players

Hence why if Higgins is worth a 2nd rounder then Chip is worth pick 3. I am expecting Chip has a longer contract worth more money then Higgins
yeh was more at the Hampson comparisons that have pooped up a few times.
North supposedly tabled a four year 400k deal and Frawley has been rumoured to take less money than other offers to go to Hawks so it's going to be line ball whether Melb get 3 or not
I can't be the only one who laughed at this.
At which part?
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: RaisyDaisy on October 04, 2014, 04:19:56 PM
Pooped, instead of popped ;)
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Ricochet on October 04, 2014, 04:33:23 PM
oh haha didn't even noticed it bolded. my bad lol
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Master Q on October 05, 2014, 11:23:35 AM
Hawks posted this on their website then quickly removed it.

(https://i.imgur.com/Y6Nw3RO.jpg)
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Nige on October 05, 2014, 11:29:47 AM
Quote from: Master Q on October 05, 2014, 11:23:35 AM
Hawks posted this on their website then quickly removed it.

(https://i.imgur.com/Y6Nw3RO.jpg)
KB beat ya to it in the Hawks board.  ;)
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Master Q on October 05, 2014, 11:38:05 AM
Thought I'd post it here for people who don't visit that awful place  :P
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: kilbluff1985 on October 05, 2014, 02:55:18 PM
(http://i60.tinypic.com/jr9t95.jpg)
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Vinny on October 05, 2014, 02:58:00 PM
That applies more to the Bombers board more being full of ASADA/Hird bullshower. :P
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: kilbluff1985 on October 05, 2014, 02:58:51 PM
Quote from: Vinny on October 05, 2014, 02:58:00 PM
That applies more to the Bombers board more being full of ASADA/Hird bullshower. :P

Vinny don't ruin my meme
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Nige on October 05, 2014, 08:46:18 PM
Howlett apparently knocked back the Bombers contract offer and Carlton and Freo are circling.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: SydneyRox on October 05, 2014, 09:09:08 PM
Quote from: Nige on October 05, 2014, 08:46:18 PM
Howlett apparently knocked back the Bombers contract offer and Carlton and Freo are circling.

Well he wont move to Freo...
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: elephants on October 05, 2014, 09:12:47 PM
Quote from: SydneyRox on October 05, 2014, 09:09:08 PM
Quote from: Nige on October 05, 2014, 08:46:18 PM
Howlett apparently knocked back the Bombers contract offer and Carlton and Freo are circling.

Well he wont move to Freo...

Why not?
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: SydneyRox on October 05, 2014, 09:15:24 PM
Quote from: elephants on October 05, 2014, 09:12:47 PM
Quote from: SydneyRox on October 05, 2014, 09:09:08 PM
Quote from: Nige on October 05, 2014, 08:46:18 PM
Howlett apparently knocked back the Bombers contract offer and Carlton and Freo are circling.

Well he wont move to Freo...

Why not?

seems like no one wants to go there lately. Any half decent person they chase doesnt want to move across the country. Spuds come running though!
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Big Mac on October 05, 2014, 09:18:57 PM
Quote from: SydneyRox on October 05, 2014, 09:15:24 PM
Quote from: elephants on October 05, 2014, 09:12:47 PM
Quote from: SydneyRox on October 05, 2014, 09:09:08 PM
Quote from: Nige on October 05, 2014, 08:46:18 PM
Howlett apparently knocked back the Bombers contract offer and Carlton and Freo are circling.

Well he wont move to Freo...

Why not?

seems like no one wants to go there lately. Any half decent person they chase doesnt want to move across the country. Spuds come running though!

Sylvia  8)
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: elephants on October 05, 2014, 09:19:19 PM
Quote from: SydneyRox on October 05, 2014, 09:15:24 PM
Quote from: elephants on October 05, 2014, 09:12:47 PM
Quote from: SydneyRox on October 05, 2014, 09:09:08 PM
Quote from: Nige on October 05, 2014, 08:46:18 PM
Howlett apparently knocked back the Bombers contract offer and Carlton and Freo are circling.

Well he wont move to Freo...

Why not?

seems like no one wants to go there lately. Any half decent person they chase doesnt want to move across the country. Spuds come running though!

We need a COLFFA

Cost of living flowering far away allowance.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: SydneyRox on October 05, 2014, 09:21:53 PM
Might help. Have heard a couple of radio conversations on the topic of WA clubs not being on the radar for people moving clubs. Extra travel, shorter careers etc. Not sure how much actual fact there is, but plenty of scare mongering, one of the commentators blamed the agents.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Ricochet on October 05, 2014, 09:23:17 PM
Quote from: SydneyRox on October 05, 2014, 09:15:24 PM
Quote from: elephants on October 05, 2014, 09:12:47 PM
Quote from: SydneyRox on October 05, 2014, 09:09:08 PM
Quote from: Nige on October 05, 2014, 08:46:18 PM
Howlett apparently knocked back the Bombers contract offer and Carlton and Freo are circling.

Well he wont move to Freo...

Why not?

seems like no one wants to go there lately. Any half decent person they chase doesnt want to move across the country. Spuds come running though!
Difference is Howlett is from WA.

I dont think we need someone like Howlett though tbh
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: SydneyRox on October 05, 2014, 09:32:37 PM
ah. didnt realise that. Howlett not the worst player going round.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Ricochet on October 05, 2014, 09:35:13 PM
Quote from: SydneyRox on October 05, 2014, 09:32:37 PM
ah. didnt realise that. Howlett not the worst player going round.
Yeh I like him. Don't think we need any more of his type was what I meant
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Mr.Craig on October 05, 2014, 09:41:33 PM
Such a hot and cold player.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Nails on October 05, 2014, 09:51:10 PM
Quote from: Mr.Craig on October 05, 2014, 09:41:33 PM
Such a hot and cold player.

But mostly cold.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Mr.Craig on October 05, 2014, 10:26:21 PM
Quote from: Nails on October 05, 2014, 09:51:10 PM
Quote from: Mr.Craig on October 05, 2014, 09:41:33 PM
Such a hot and cold player.

But mostly cold.

Tepid?
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Pkbaldy on October 05, 2014, 11:05:26 PM
The Age tonight have reported that St Kilda are leading the chase for Sydney forward Tim Membrey.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Mailman the 2nd on October 06, 2014, 12:33:56 AM
Smart from St.Kilda. He'd work well with Riewoldt
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Grazz on October 06, 2014, 12:44:42 AM
Quote from: Mailman the 2nd on October 06, 2014, 12:33:56 AM
Smart from St.Kilda. He'd work well with Riewoldt

He could lead up behind NRoo so when the ball goes over Nicks head it hits him on the chest.  :P
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Bill Manspeaker on October 06, 2014, 12:49:13 AM
Quote from: Grazz on October 06, 2014, 12:44:42 AM
Quote from: Mailman the 2nd on October 06, 2014, 12:33:56 AM
Smart from St.Kilda. He'd work well with Riewoldt

He could lead up behind NRoo so when the ball goes over Nicks head it hits him on the chest.  :P

lmao. so true. so true. so painful  :( ;D
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Grazz on October 06, 2014, 01:04:12 AM
Quote from: brad on October 06, 2014, 12:49:13 AM
Quote from: Grazz on October 06, 2014, 12:44:42 AM
Quote from: Mailman the 2nd on October 06, 2014, 12:33:56 AM
Smart from St.Kilda. He'd work well with Riewoldt

He could lead up behind NRoo so when the ball goes over Nicks head it hits him on the chest.  :P

lmao. so true. so true. so painful  :( ;D

Haha sorry buddy just my morbid sense of humour.  :P
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Bill Manspeaker on October 06, 2014, 01:07:57 AM
Quote from: Grazz on October 06, 2014, 01:04:12 AM
Quote from: brad on October 06, 2014, 12:49:13 AM
Quote from: Grazz on October 06, 2014, 12:44:42 AM
Quote from: Mailman the 2nd on October 06, 2014, 12:33:56 AM
Smart from St.Kilda. He'd work well with Riewoldt

He could lead up behind NRoo so when the ball goes over Nicks head it hits him on the chest.  :P

lmao. so true. so true. so painful  :( ;D

Haha sorry buddy just my morbid sense of humour.  :P

all good mate, love it :P have to remember to nominate this one for the Trev Marmalade award  8)
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Mat0369 on October 06, 2014, 01:10:23 AM
Carlton need someone like Howlett. He is a guy that can probably play that half forward/mid role instead of forcing our mids like Murph/Judd/McLean to play their instead. As others have said he is hot and cold. If we can get him to gain some consistency that is one pick up I would agree with.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Grazz on October 06, 2014, 01:11:21 AM
Lol tbh ive seen funnier stuff, comedy isnt my strong point. :P
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Mr.Craig on October 06, 2014, 01:44:02 AM
Bloody hell, will be happy when the action starts again.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Grazz on October 06, 2014, 01:47:49 AM
Quote from: Mr.Craig on October 06, 2014, 01:44:02 AM
Bloody hell, will be happy when the action starts again.

Yep the lead up to the draft is going to drag like crazy to. :(
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Ricochet on October 06, 2014, 09:28:09 AM
Bond confirming we haven't got much interest in Howlett
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: R.Griffen on October 06, 2014, 09:43:28 AM
ahah didn't know that, a caller just pointed out that they traded pick 46 for Trent Dennis Lane and with 46 Sydney got Tim Membrey. Now Saints want Membrey and TDL doesn't play anymore
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: R.Griffen on October 06, 2014, 09:46:00 AM
Official Frawley to Hawks
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: kilbluff1985 on October 06, 2014, 10:20:04 AM
yes we knew Saints were in the lead to get Membrey but he has also nominated them as his preferred club now

St Kilda list manager Ameet Bains has confirmed on trade radio that Sydney forward Tim Membrey has indicated he would like a trade to the saints.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: LF on October 06, 2014, 10:20:29 AM
The players who have been nominated but had no bids placed on them will automatically join their clubs: Josh Clayton (Brisbane), Alec Waterman (West Coast), Jeremy Finlayson (GWS)

A recap... In the first round (understanding the picks will be adjusted), Isaac Heeney joins the Swans with pick 17, and Darcy Moore joins Collingwood at pick 8.

In the second round... Jack Steele joins the Giants at pick 23.

In the third round... Billy Stretch joins the Dees with pick 39

Liam Dawson will be the Lions' pick 41, and Harris Andrews joins the Lions at pick 61

Zaine Cordy joins the Bulldogs in the fourth round at pick 61.

Jack Hiscox joins the Swans in the second round at pick 36 and Abe Davis at pick 73.



Melbourne bid pick two on Isaac Heeney, to which Sydney matched with pick 17.
Western Bulldogs bid pick five on Darcy Moore, to which Collingwood matched with pick 8.
North bid pick 15 on Jack Steele, to which GWS matched with pick 23.
Adelaide bid pick 29 on Billy Stretch, to which Melbourne matched with pick 39.
Richmond bid pick 31 on Liam Dawson, to which Brisbane matched with pick 41.
Fremantle bid pick 32 on Jack Hiscox, to which Sydney matched with pick 36.
North Melbourne bid pick 34 on Harris Andrews, to which Brisbane matched with pick 60.
Fremantle bid pick 51 for Zaine Cordy, to which the Western Bulldogs matched with pick 61.
Geelong bid pick 70 on Abe Davis, to which the Swans matched with pick 73.

The remaining three players who didn't receive a bid - Josh Clayton (Brisbane), Alec Waterman (West Coast) and Jeremy Finlayson (GWS) - will join those clubs with their last selection.

*Please note these are the correct draft selections before free agency compensation picks are added to the draft, such as the Bulldogs' pick 26 for Shaun Higgins.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: kilbluff1985 on October 06, 2014, 10:23:38 AM
Quote from: LF on October 06, 2014, 10:20:29 AM
The players who have been nominated but had no bids placed on them will automatically join their clubs: Josh Clayton (Brisbane), Alec Waterman (West Coast), Jeremy Finlayson (GWS)

so those clubs just get 1 less pick in the draft i assume?
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Toga on October 06, 2014, 10:52:04 AM
I assume it would be their last pick in the draft that they would have to use kb
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Jroo on October 06, 2014, 10:57:07 AM
Quote from: Toga on October 06, 2014, 10:52:04 AM
I assume it would be their last pick in the draft that they would have to use kb
Yeah that's right, they just have to use their last pick.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Toga on October 06, 2014, 10:58:27 AM
So Frawley compensation pick will probably be announced today... What do people think Melbourne gets?
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Ricochet on October 06, 2014, 11:00:22 AM
End of first round would be fair based on value.
Pick 3 would be fair if looking at equalisation.

If reports on what Higgins was offered were correct, I reckon Frawley will be end of first round.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: kilbluff1985 on October 06, 2014, 11:02:36 AM
i think pick 3 is fair enough might not be a popular opinion but he is there best key defender

i just think it's funny some people think Frawley is not best 22 @Hawks mainly on facebook not here
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Ricochet on October 06, 2014, 11:03:35 AM
Yeh I don't think he's as great as people are making out to be. Wouldn't be a top 10 defender the comp
Good role player, but pick 3 is a win for Melb
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Toga on October 06, 2014, 11:05:02 AM
Quote from: Ricochet on October 06, 2014, 11:03:35 AM
Good role player, but pick 3 is a win for Melb

On face value, it probably is a win, but it still sets them back a few years in development
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: kilbluff1985 on October 06, 2014, 11:05:44 AM
Quote from: Ricochet on October 06, 2014, 11:03:35 AM
Yeh I don't think he's as great as people are making out to be. Wouldn't be a top 10 defender the comp
Good role player, but pick 3 is a win for Melb

you never really know though he might flourish being in a good team wont be under so much pressure
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Ricochet on October 06, 2014, 11:12:35 AM
Quote from: Toga on October 06, 2014, 11:05:02 AM
Quote from: Ricochet on October 06, 2014, 11:03:35 AM
Good role player, but pick 3 is a win for Melb

On face value, it probably is a win, but it still sets them back a few years in development
which tbh man would suit them. They have enough defenders to replace Frawley down back, and they have Hogan to come in and replace him up forward. Top 3 picks are huge and generally make an impact within a couple of years. Like if we look at the fairly current previous pick 3s
Billings
Plowman
Tyson
Day
DMartin
SHill
All apart from Plowman made an impact within the first 1-3 of years of their career
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Toga on October 06, 2014, 11:18:26 AM
Yeah I'm not against what you're saying at all Rico and I think you're probably right as well! If they can pick up someone like Sam Frost to cover the loss of Frawls it could well turn into a win for Melbourne if they get pick 3 as well.

Will be interesting to see how the AFL will rule on it
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Ricochet on October 06, 2014, 11:20:31 AM
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on October 06, 2014, 11:05:44 AM
Quote from: Ricochet on October 06, 2014, 11:03:35 AM
Yeh I don't think he's as great as people are making out to be. Wouldn't be a top 10 defender the comp
Good role player, but pick 3 is a win for Melb

you never really know though he might flourish being in a good team wont be under so much pressure
Yeh but if that's the case that would just suit Melb even more so though man. "Might" be a better player at Hawks but still just an OK player at Melb, they'd rather pick 3


Quote from: Toga on October 06, 2014, 11:18:26 AM
Yeah I'm not against what you're saying at all Rico and I think you're probably right as well! If they can pick up someone like Sam Frost to cover the loss of Frawls it could well turn into a win for Melbourne if they get pick 3 as well.

Will be interesting to see how the AFL will rule on it
Yeh agree mate. Tbh I don't think they'll get 3, but I hope they do.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: nrich102 on October 06, 2014, 11:42:23 AM
Lions Give: Pick 4 and Crisp
Lions Get: Beams

Collingwood Give: Beams
Collingwood Get: Dangerfield and GWS 3rd/4th round pick

Adelaide Give: Dangerfield
Adelaide Get: Giles and Pick 4

GWS Give: Giles and 3rd/4th round pick
GWS Get: Crisp

Could this trade fall through? GWS win the trade really, and Adelaide or Brisbane lose it.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Jroo on October 06, 2014, 11:48:12 AM
Crows have come out and said they won't trade Danger for picks 2 and 3, why would they trade him for pick 4 and Giles?  :P
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: nrich102 on October 06, 2014, 11:49:11 AM
Quote from: JROO8 on October 06, 2014, 11:48:12 AM
Crows have come out and said they won't trade Danger for picks 2 and 3, why would they trade him for pick 4 and Giles?  :P
Ok, well I guess that trade won't fall through  :P
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: The_Captain on October 06, 2014, 11:50:53 AM
Quote from: nrich102 on October 06, 2014, 11:42:23 AM
Lions Give: Pick 4 and Crisp
Lions Get: Beams

Collingwood Give: Beams
Collingwood Get: Dangerfield and GWS 3rd/4th round pick

Adelaide Give: Dangerfield
Adelaide Get: Giles and Pick 4

GWS Give: Giles and 3rd/4th round pick
GWS Get: Crisp

Could this trade fall through? GWS win the trade really, and Adelaide or Brisbane lose it.

Geez. I reckon Adelaide losing out on that one. I reckon they can get a 3 way done without GWS.. Lions just gotta find sonething else to give to Adelaide instead of Crsip. I think Collingvwood getting just Dangerfield is fine..
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Ricochet on October 06, 2014, 11:51:40 AM
Wonder if Brissie have offered Pick 4 and Mayes to Pies. That should be about right imo
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: nrich102 on October 06, 2014, 11:54:40 AM
Quote from: Ricochet on October 06, 2014, 11:51:40 AM
Wonder if Brissie have offered Pick 4 and Mayes to Pies. That should be about right imo
If we trade Mayes I would seriously consider supporting GC.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Ricochet on October 06, 2014, 11:56:42 AM
Quote from: nrich102 on October 06, 2014, 11:54:40 AM
Quote from: Ricochet on October 06, 2014, 11:51:40 AM
Wonder if Brissie have offered Pick 4 and Mayes to Pies. That should be about right imo
If we trade Mayes I would seriously consider supporting GC.
haha but you get Beams man. Based on age and output, he's a top 5 most valuable mid in the comp... maybe even top 3
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: nrich102 on October 06, 2014, 12:01:27 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on October 06, 2014, 11:56:42 AM
Quote from: nrich102 on October 06, 2014, 11:54:40 AM
Quote from: Ricochet on October 06, 2014, 11:51:40 AM
Wonder if Brissie have offered Pick 4 and Mayes to Pies. That should be about right imo
If we trade Mayes I would seriously consider supporting GC.
haha but you get Beams man. Based on age and output, he's a top 5 most valuable mid in the comp... maybe even top 3
But Mayes is Mayes  :-\ I dont want to lose Mayes.

I dont see why Collingwood wont take one of Lester or Crisp or Golby  ???
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: JBs-Hawks on October 06, 2014, 12:03:48 PM
Quote from: nrich102 on October 06, 2014, 12:01:27 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on October 06, 2014, 11:56:42 AM
Quote from: nrich102 on October 06, 2014, 11:54:40 AM
Quote from: Ricochet on October 06, 2014, 11:51:40 AM
Wonder if Brissie have offered Pick 4 and Mayes to Pies. That should be about right imo
If we trade Mayes I would seriously consider supporting GC.
haha but you get Beams man. Based on age and output, he's a top 5 most valuable mid in the comp... maybe even top 3
But Mayes is Mayes  :-\ I dont want to lose Mayes.

I dont see why Collingwood wont take one of Lester or Crisp or Golby  ???

Cos they're shower. Gotta give up alot of good stuff to get the best. Not just a pick and a vfl standard player. Those  guys cant get a game in a shower brisbane team why would they get one at collingwood
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Ricochet on October 06, 2014, 12:07:01 PM
Quote from: nrich102 on October 06, 2014, 12:01:27 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on October 06, 2014, 11:56:42 AM
Quote from: nrich102 on October 06, 2014, 11:54:40 AM
Quote from: Ricochet on October 06, 2014, 11:51:40 AM
Wonder if Brissie have offered Pick 4 and Mayes to Pies. That should be about right imo
If we trade Mayes I would seriously consider supporting GC.
haha but you get Beams man. Based on age and output, he's a top 5 most valuable mid in the comp... maybe even top 3
But Mayes is Mayes  :-\ I dont want to lose Mayes.

I dont see why Collingwood wont take one of Lester or Crisp or Golby  ???
Well because its Beams those three aren't really up to the level to make it a fair deal. Just my opinion tho
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Toga on October 06, 2014, 12:15:18 PM
Quote from: JBs-Hawks on October 06, 2014, 12:03:48 PM
Cos they're shower. Gotta give up alot of good stuff to get the best. Not just a pick and a vfl standard player. Those  guys cant get a game in a shower brisbane team why would they get one at collingwood

Quote from: Ricochet on October 06, 2014, 12:07:01 PM
Well because its Beams those three aren't really up to the level to make it a fair deal. Just my opinion tho
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Tominator on October 06, 2014, 12:17:05 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on October 06, 2014, 11:51:40 AM
Wonder if Brissie have offered Pick 4 and Mayes to Pies. That should be about right imo

I'd offer that to the Crows in the three-way trade. Mayes is an SA boy so if he's gonna leave Brisbane I don't think he'd go to Victoria

Adelaide
OUT: Dangerfield    IN: Mayes, Pick 4

Brisbane
OUT: Mayes, Pick 4    IN: Beams

Collingwood
OUT: Beams     IN: Dangerfield
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Nails on October 06, 2014, 12:19:34 PM
Quote from: Tominator on October 06, 2014, 12:17:05 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on October 06, 2014, 11:51:40 AM
Wonder if Brissie have offered Pick 4 and Mayes to Pies. That should be about right imo

I'd offer that to the Crows in the three-way trade. Mayes is an SA boy so if he's gonna leave Brisbane I don't think he'd go to Victoria

Adelaide
OUT: Dangerfield    IN: Mayes, Pick 4

Brisbane
OUT: Mayes, Pick 4    IN: Beams

Collingwood
OUT: Beams     IN: Dangerfield

Massive overs. Mayes is a future Beams. He's the best kid on our list. Better than Aish and Taylor.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Ricochet on October 06, 2014, 12:20:01 PM
Quote from: Tominator on October 06, 2014, 12:17:05 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on October 06, 2014, 11:51:40 AM
Wonder if Brissie have offered Pick 4 and Mayes to Pies. That should be about right imo

I'd offer that to the Crows in the three-way trade. Mayes is an SA boy so if he's gonna leave Brisbane I don't think he'd go to Victoria

Adelaide
OUT: Dangerfield    IN: Mayes, Pick 4

Brisbane
OUT: Mayes, Pick 4    IN: Beams

Collingwood
OUT: Beams     IN: Dangerfield
Yeh I reckon that's about right man
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Ringo on October 06, 2014, 12:27:34 PM
reckon with Pies rebuilding it could be pick 4 and pick 26 for Beams. Do not see why Pies would not take Lester though as he is worth a 2nd round pick anyway.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: The_Captain on October 06, 2014, 12:27:54 PM
Geez i dont think its fair for Brissy giving up pick 4 and mayes. Needs to be pick 4 and a player... Just a matter of someone who can play a role for Adelaide.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Ricochet on October 06, 2014, 12:28:52 PM
Really don't think Pies will take two picks for Beams
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Ringo on October 06, 2014, 12:30:17 PM
That is the latest rumour coming out Richo
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: The_Captain on October 06, 2014, 12:31:18 PM
They wikl want a ready made mid like danger... has to be Adelaide, Coll and Bris 3 way trade to get this done.. Just a matter of bris and Ade getting something sorted
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Mailman the 2nd on October 06, 2014, 12:31:51 PM
Collingwood already have a ton of kids and small players. They need regular 22 players with ready AFL experience.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Ricochet on October 06, 2014, 12:32:49 PM
Yeh everything from Collingwood has said they want a ready made player. And tbh they deserve one if losing Beams. Like I said before, in my opinion he is a top 3-5 most valuable midfielder in the comp if you take into account age
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: WCarey18 on October 06, 2014, 12:38:57 PM
Collingwood have supposedly put in an offer for Levi Greenwood from North, which might be the catalyst for a three-way trade to get Beams to Brisbane.

Collingwood give: Dayne Beams and picks 45 and 64.
Collingwood receive: Levi Greenwood and pick 4

North give: Levi Greenwood and picks 34 and 71.
North receive: picks 24, 45 and 64

Brisbane give: picks 4 and 24
Brisbane receive: Dayne Beams and picks 34 and 71

Thoughts?

I reckon its a fair deal for all parties. Greenwood is worth IMO pick 20-25, and with a shuffle of picks Collingwood and Brisbane exchange Beams for pick 4.

Win-win.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Toga on October 06, 2014, 12:41:15 PM
I was thinking Greenwood could well be a catalyst to the Beams trade. Is a ready made replacement for Beams (albeit not to as high standards as Beams), so if they could get him and Pick #4 in a deal for Beams I think you can lock it in.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: WCarey18 on October 06, 2014, 12:44:11 PM
Quote from: Toga on October 06, 2014, 12:41:15 PM
I was thinking Greenwood could well be a catalyst to the Beams trade. Is a ready made replacement for Beams (albeit not to as high standards as Beams), so if they could get him and Pick #4 in a deal for Beams I think you can lock it in.

Far better chance of this happening than a Dangerfield - Beams trade.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: shaker on October 06, 2014, 12:48:20 PM
Looks good for the Pies and Lions don't know if Norf will be to happy giving up a good player a pick in the 30's for a pick in the 20's and one in the 40's and swapping a much later one ?
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Toga on October 06, 2014, 12:50:37 PM
They haven't been able to come up with a deal that keeps him happy (he is out of contract), so if he's on the move I think a pick in the second round would almost get it done.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: shaker on October 06, 2014, 12:53:01 PM
Quote from: Toga on October 06, 2014, 12:50:37 PM
They haven't been able to come up with a deal that keeps him happy (he is out of contract), so if he's on the move I think a pick in the second round would almost get it done.

Yeah but the Tiges have shown interest in him what do you think they would give Norf for him there first round ?
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: WCarey18 on October 06, 2014, 12:56:25 PM
Quote from: shaker on October 06, 2014, 12:53:01 PM
Quote from: Toga on October 06, 2014, 12:50:37 PM
They haven't been able to come up with a deal that keeps him happy (he is out of contract), so if he's on the move I think a pick in the second round would almost get it done.

Yeah but the Tiges have shown interest in him what do you think they would give Norf for him there first round ?

If they did offer pick 11, I'd take it. Think thats overs for Richmond.

Greenwood is good, but not that good. Hence the early second from Brisbane/Collingwood.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: shaker on October 06, 2014, 01:04:16 PM
Quote from: WCarey18 on October 06, 2014, 12:56:25 PM
Quote from: shaker on October 06, 2014, 12:53:01 PM
Quote from: Toga on October 06, 2014, 12:50:37 PM
They haven't been able to come up with a deal that keeps him happy (he is out of contract), so if he's on the move I think a pick in the second round would almost get it done.

Yeah but the Tiges have shown interest in him what do you think they would give Norf for him there first round ?

If they did offer pick 11, I'd take it. Think thats overs for Richmond.

Greenwood is good, but not that good. Hence the early second from Brisbane/Collingwood.

It is overs by a bit I just think pick 24 is a bit under his value and who knows what other teams would offer plus there giving up a mid 30's pick for mid 40's one as well
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Toga on October 06, 2014, 01:05:24 PM
Have also heard Richmond are interested but sounds like they will only make a play for him once they have heard that he is seeking to move to another club.. Agree that Pick 11 would be overs, so might involve a player and a pick if the Tigers enter the race.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: WCarey18 on October 06, 2014, 01:08:04 PM
Quote from: shaker on October 06, 2014, 01:04:16 PM
Quote from: WCarey18 on October 06, 2014, 12:56:25 PM
Quote from: shaker on October 06, 2014, 12:53:01 PM
Quote from: Toga on October 06, 2014, 12:50:37 PM
They haven't been able to come up with a deal that keeps him happy (he is out of contract), so if he's on the move I think a pick in the second round would almost get it done.

Yeah but the Tiges have shown interest in him what do you think they would give Norf for him there first round ?

If they did offer pick 11, I'd take it. Think thats overs for Richmond.

Greenwood is good, but not that good. Hence the early second from Brisbane/Collingwood.

It is overs by a bit I just think pick 24 is a bit under his value and who knows what other teams would offer plus there giving up a mid 30's pick for mid 40's one as well

Okay....how about this then.

Collingwood gives: Beams and picks 30 and 65
Collingwood receives: Greenwood and pick 4

Brisbane gives: picks 4 and 24
Brisbane receives: Beams and pick 30

North gives: Greenwood
North recieves: picks 24 and 65.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Ricochet on October 06, 2014, 01:12:54 PM
Brissie absolutely kill that
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: SydneyRox on October 06, 2014, 01:14:31 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on October 06, 2014, 01:12:54 PM
Brissie absolutely kill that

Hell yeah, if that deal got offered to brisbane they couldnt sign it fast enough
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Ricochet on October 06, 2014, 01:14:51 PM
from 2014 AFL Offseason page

- News coming through via 3AW is that Levi Greenwood has requested a trade to Collingwood. Greenwood tied for second in North's B&F.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: GoLions on October 06, 2014, 01:21:50 PM
Quote from: SydneyRox on October 06, 2014, 01:14:31 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on October 06, 2014, 01:12:54 PM
Brissie absolutely kill that

Hell yeah, if that deal got offered to brisbane they couldnt sign it fast enough
I would be ok with that 3-way deal hahaha
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: GoLions on October 06, 2014, 01:22:39 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on October 06, 2014, 01:14:51 PM
from 2014 AFL Offseason page

- News coming through via 3AW is that Levi Greenwood has requested a trade to Collingwood. Greenwood tied for second in North's B&F.
Things just started to get a bit raunchy in here.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: meow meow on October 06, 2014, 01:24:56 PM
Quote from: Nige on October 03, 2014, 09:55:52 AM
Jones has agreed to terms with the Blues and both clubs are believed to be satisfied pick No.43 is a sufficient swap.

Sounds like Dalrymple is not satisfied with pick 43 for Jones. "Key forwards who dominate state league football don't grow on trees"

Said he expected to, and would have been happy to give up pick 25 for Cordy.

Said we've had no talks with Jaksch.

Might be looking for an experienced key back (Merrett?)

Unlikely to try to trade up to a top 3 pick to grab McCartin
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: shaker on October 06, 2014, 01:25:19 PM
Now that Greenwood is out of Norf lets see who else is interested not to many players like him available could be a few
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: WCarey18 on October 06, 2014, 01:26:28 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on October 06, 2014, 01:14:51 PM
from 2014 AFL Offseason page

- News coming through via 3AW is that Levi Greenwood has requested a trade to Collingwood. Greenwood tied for second in North's B&F.

:o

Can't wait to see if thats a fact. Massive news and adds more fuel to the fire about a three-way trade.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: GoLions on October 06, 2014, 01:29:17 PM
Quote from: WCarey18 on October 06, 2014, 01:08:04 PM
Quote from: shaker on October 06, 2014, 01:04:16 PM
Quote from: WCarey18 on October 06, 2014, 12:56:25 PM
Quote from: shaker on October 06, 2014, 12:53:01 PM
Quote from: Toga on October 06, 2014, 12:50:37 PM
They haven't been able to come up with a deal that keeps him happy (he is out of contract), so if he's on the move I think a pick in the second round would almost get it done.

Yeah but the Tiges have shown interest in him what do you think they would give Norf for him there first round ?

If they did offer pick 11, I'd take it. Think thats overs for Richmond.

Greenwood is good, but not that good. Hence the early second from Brisbane/Collingwood.

It is overs by a bit I just think pick 24 is a bit under his value and who knows what other teams would offer plus there giving up a mid 30's pick for mid 40's one as well

Okay....how about this then.

Collingwood gives: Beams and picks 30 and 65
Collingwood receives: Greenwood and pick 4

Brisbane gives: picks 4 and 24
Brisbane receives: Beams and pick 30

North gives: Greenwood
North recieves: picks 24 and 65. 30
Thoughts on those changes?
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: WCarey18 on October 06, 2014, 01:32:29 PM
Quote from: GoLions on October 06, 2014, 01:29:17 PM
Quote from: WCarey18 on October 06, 2014, 01:08:04 PM
Quote from: shaker on October 06, 2014, 01:04:16 PM
Quote from: WCarey18 on October 06, 2014, 12:56:25 PM
Quote from: shaker on October 06, 2014, 12:53:01 PM
Quote from: Toga on October 06, 2014, 12:50:37 PM
They haven't been able to come up with a deal that keeps him happy (he is out of contract), so if he's on the move I think a pick in the second round would almost get it done.

Yeah but the Tiges have shown interest in him what do you think they would give Norf for him there first round ?

If they did offer pick 11, I'd take it. Think thats overs for Richmond.

Greenwood is good, but not that good. Hence the early second from Brisbane/Collingwood.

It is overs by a bit I just think pick 24 is a bit under his value and who knows what other teams would offer plus there giving up a mid 30's pick for mid 40's one as well

Okay....how about this then.

Collingwood gives: Beams and picks 30 and 65
Collingwood receives: Greenwood and pick 4

Brisbane gives: picks 4 and 24
Brisbane receives: Beams and pick 30

North gives: Greenwood
North recieves: picks 24 and 65. 30
Thoughts on those changes?

If Brisbane are happy giving away pick 4 and 24 for Beams, then deal. Though all this recent talk, I doubt Brisbane would give away pick 24 without getting something back, like pick 30, or even North's pick 37.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: GoLions on October 06, 2014, 01:34:23 PM
Quote from: WCarey18 on October 06, 2014, 01:32:29 PM
Quote from: GoLions on October 06, 2014, 01:29:17 PM
Quote from: WCarey18 on October 06, 2014, 01:08:04 PM
Quote from: shaker on October 06, 2014, 01:04:16 PM
Quote from: WCarey18 on October 06, 2014, 12:56:25 PM
Quote from: shaker on October 06, 2014, 12:53:01 PM
Quote from: Toga on October 06, 2014, 12:50:37 PM
They haven't been able to come up with a deal that keeps him happy (he is out of contract), so if he's on the move I think a pick in the second round would almost get it done.

Yeah but the Tiges have shown interest in him what do you think they would give Norf for him there first round ?

If they did offer pick 11, I'd take it. Think thats overs for Richmond.

Greenwood is good, but not that good. Hence the early second from Brisbane/Collingwood.

It is overs by a bit I just think pick 24 is a bit under his value and who knows what other teams would offer plus there giving up a mid 30's pick for mid 40's one as well

Okay....how about this then.

Collingwood gives: Beams and picks 30 and 65
Collingwood receives: Greenwood and pick 4

Brisbane gives: picks 4 and 24
Brisbane receives: Beams and pick 30

North gives: Greenwood
North recieves: picks 24 and 65. 30
Thoughts on those changes?

If Brisbane are happy giving away pick 4 and 24 for Beams, then deal. Though all this recent talk, I doubt Brisbane would give away pick 24 without getting something back, like pick 30, or even North's pick 37.
Yeah I don't really know how much Greenwood will be worth. Maybe you guys give us 37 like you said. Also depends on whether we lose any of Merrett/Patfull, and what we get in return if they are to leave.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: WCarey18 on October 06, 2014, 01:36:46 PM
Quote from: GoLions on October 06, 2014, 01:34:23 PM
Quote from: WCarey18 on October 06, 2014, 01:32:29 PM
Quote from: GoLions on October 06, 2014, 01:29:17 PM
Quote from: WCarey18 on October 06, 2014, 01:08:04 PM
Quote from: shaker on October 06, 2014, 01:04:16 PM
Quote from: WCarey18 on October 06, 2014, 12:56:25 PM
Quote from: shaker on October 06, 2014, 12:53:01 PM
Quote from: Toga on October 06, 2014, 12:50:37 PM
They haven't been able to come up with a deal that keeps him happy (he is out of contract), so if he's on the move I think a pick in the second round would almost get it done.

Yeah but the Tiges have shown interest in him what do you think they would give Norf for him there first round ?

If they did offer pick 11, I'd take it. Think thats overs for Richmond.

Greenwood is good, but not that good. Hence the early second from Brisbane/Collingwood.

It is overs by a bit I just think pick 24 is a bit under his value and who knows what other teams would offer plus there giving up a mid 30's pick for mid 40's one as well

Okay....how about this then.

Collingwood gives: Beams and picks 30 and 65
Collingwood receives: Greenwood and pick 4

Brisbane gives: picks 4 and 24
Brisbane receives: Beams and pick 30

North gives: Greenwood
North recieves: picks 24 and 65. 30
Thoughts on those changes?

If Brisbane are happy giving away pick 4 and 24 for Beams, then deal. Though all this recent talk, I doubt Brisbane would give away pick 24 without getting something back, like pick 30, or even North's pick 37.
Yeah I don't really know how much Greenwood will be worth. Maybe you guys give us 37 like you said. Also depends on whether we lose any of Merrett/Patfull, and what we get in return if they are to leave.

I reckon North's pick 37 would get it done. An early second pick and pick upgrade is about the right price IMO.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: shaker on October 06, 2014, 01:37:20 PM
I think Greenwood's currency just went up if he is really leaving lets just see what unfolds but he going to create great interest 
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Toga on October 06, 2014, 01:39:25 PM
Yeah it will be interesting to see if he has actually nominated Collingwood yet. A few clubs are obviously interested, so if he was going to leave there might be a few clubs putting nice contracts in front of him
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: TomK on October 06, 2014, 01:42:11 PM
BREAKING: @sydneyswans forward Tim Membrey has officially requested a trade to @stkildafc
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: WCarey18 on October 06, 2014, 01:43:14 PM
Quote from: TomK on October 06, 2014, 01:42:11 PM
BREAKING: @sydneyswans forward Tim Membrey has officially requested a trade to @stkildafc

Source? Unsurprising though.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: T Dog on October 06, 2014, 01:43:48 PM
Quote from: Toga on October 06, 2014, 01:39:25 PM
Yeah it will be interesting to see if he has actually nominated Collingwood yet. A few clubs are obviously interested, so if he was going to leave there might be a few clubs putting nice contracts in front of him

North should deal direct with Pies and go hard for Beames.. :o
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: TomK on October 06, 2014, 01:44:33 PM
Quote from: WCarey18 on October 06, 2014, 01:43:14 PM
Quote from: TomK on October 06, 2014, 01:42:11 PM
BREAKING: @sydneyswans forward Tim Membrey has officially requested a trade to @stkildafc

Source? Unsurprising though.
AFL Trade Radio
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Ricochet on October 06, 2014, 01:45:27 PM
Yep

CONFIRMATION
List Manager Ameet Bains has confirmed that Sydney Swans forward Tim Membrey has requested a trade to St Kilda.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: WCarey18 on October 06, 2014, 01:46:19 PM
Quote from: TomK on October 06, 2014, 01:44:33 PM
Quote from: WCarey18 on October 06, 2014, 01:43:14 PM
Quote from: TomK on October 06, 2014, 01:42:11 PM
BREAKING: @sydneyswans forward Tim Membrey has officially requested a trade to @stkildafc

Source? Unsurprising though.
AFL Trade Radio

Haha, got it. Page hadn't refreshed.  ::)

Does Pick 38 get it done?
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Toga on October 06, 2014, 01:51:11 PM
Quote from: WCarey18 on October 06, 2014, 01:46:19 PM
Does Pick 38 get it done?

Might not even have to give that much? Membrey was #47 in his draft class, wouldn't have thought his value would have increased since then but idk
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: WCarey18 on October 06, 2014, 01:59:08 PM
Quote from: Toga on October 06, 2014, 01:51:11 PM
Quote from: WCarey18 on October 06, 2014, 01:46:19 PM
Does Pick 38 get it done?

Might not even have to give that much? Membrey was #47 in his draft class, wouldn't have thought his value would have increased since then but idk

Though IIRC, Membrey was touted as a top-20 pick in that draft, and somehow landed at Sydney for a steal. Has performed well in NEAFL, kicking 100 goals across the last two seasons.

Pick 38 for Membrey and pick 55 then perhaps.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Jroo on October 06, 2014, 02:06:15 PM
Quote from: WCarey18 on October 06, 2014, 01:59:08 PM
Quote from: Toga on October 06, 2014, 01:51:11 PM
Quote from: WCarey18 on October 06, 2014, 01:46:19 PM
Does Pick 38 get it done?

Might not even have to give that much? Membrey was #47 in his draft class, wouldn't have thought his value would have increased since then but idk

Though IIRC, Membrey was touted as a top-20 pick in that draft, and somehow landed at Sydney for a steal. Has performed well in NEAFL, kicking 100 goals across the last two seasons.

Pick 38 for Membrey and pick 55 then perhaps.
Yeah this, surprised he slipped so low.
That seems fair, since Membrey wants out and can walk for free.

Greenwood to the Pies, good move by the Pies to bring him across. Wouldn't mind him at the Tiges, but not sure we could match their offer, no way would I give up our first rounder for him.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Spite on October 06, 2014, 02:11:39 PM
Hope greenwood comes for a second or third round pick. If not, I'd let him go to the rookie draft since not many below the pies would snap him up if he put a 400k bounty on his head
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: WCarey18 on October 06, 2014, 02:17:29 PM
Quote from: Spite on October 06, 2014, 02:11:39 PM
Hope greenwood comes for a second or third round pick. If not, I'd let him go to the rookie draft since not many below the pies would snap him up if he put a 400k bounty on his head

No way North would let him walk for a third-round pick. Early second at best. Don't think Collingwood's pick 30 will enough though.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: elephants on October 06, 2014, 02:29:52 PM
Given how beastly Greenwood was, anything less than a top-15 pick is a massive steal for whoever gets him imo. The bloke is a goal-kicking midfielder that tackles and possesses an enormous tank!
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Mailman the 2nd on October 06, 2014, 02:34:40 PM
Quote from: JROO8 on October 06, 2014, 02:06:15 PM
Quote from: WCarey18 on October 06, 2014, 01:59:08 PM
Quote from: Toga on October 06, 2014, 01:51:11 PM
Quote from: WCarey18 on October 06, 2014, 01:46:19 PM
Does Pick 38 get it done?

Might not even have to give that much? Membrey was #47 in his draft class, wouldn't have thought his value would have increased since then but idk

Though IIRC, Membrey was touted as a top-20 pick in that draft, and somehow landed at Sydney for a steal. Has performed well in NEAFL, kicking 100 goals across the last two seasons.

Pick 38 for Membrey and pick 55 then perhaps.
Yeah this, surprised he slipped so low.
That seems fair, since Membrey wants out and can walk for free.

I'm pretty sure he's contracted
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Jroo on October 06, 2014, 02:36:24 PM
Quote from: Mailman the 2nd on October 06, 2014, 02:34:40 PM
Quote from: JROO8 on October 06, 2014, 02:06:15 PM
Quote from: WCarey18 on October 06, 2014, 01:59:08 PM
Quote from: Toga on October 06, 2014, 01:51:11 PM
Quote from: WCarey18 on October 06, 2014, 01:46:19 PM
Does Pick 38 get it done?

Might not even have to give that much? Membrey was #47 in his draft class, wouldn't have thought his value would have increased since then but idk

Though IIRC, Membrey was touted as a top-20 pick in that draft, and somehow landed at Sydney for a steal. Has performed well in NEAFL, kicking 100 goals across the last two seasons.

Pick 38 for Membrey and pick 55 then perhaps.
Yeah this, surprised he slipped so low.
That seems fair, since Membrey wants out and can walk for free.

I'm pretty sure he's contracted
Nah, don't think he is
http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/tim-membrey-puts-contract-talks-on-hold-amid-sydneys-loaded-forward-line/story-fni5fan7-1227064471118?nk=ee93ddcfed7c7202565cbed3413738f6

So a third rounder or something like that should get it done.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Mailman the 2nd on October 06, 2014, 02:39:39 PM
ah ok never mind. Yeah probably pick 55 or whatever
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: SydneyRox on October 06, 2014, 02:41:40 PM
Membrey picking the saints is good news, Round 3 is pick 38 so I reckon thats about right.

Would be an major bonus if they paid 21
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: WCarey18 on October 06, 2014, 02:42:08 PM
Quote from: elephants on October 06, 2014, 02:29:52 PM
Given how beastly Greenwood was, anything less than a top-15 pick is a massive steal for whoever gets him imo. The bloke is a goal-kicking midfielder that tackles and possesses an enormous tank!

I'd take pick 4 from Brisbane in a three-way deal.  ;D
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Toga on October 06, 2014, 02:43:21 PM
Don't think you have any chance of getting #21 Syd, and think you might even be lucky to get #38.

He's obviously got a great amount of talent, but I don't think his value would have increased since he was drafted given he didn't really get any games in his time at the Swans.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Jroo on October 06, 2014, 02:44:30 PM
Quote from: Toga on October 06, 2014, 02:43:21 PM
Don't think you have any chance of getting #21 Syd, and think you might even be lucky to get #38.

He's obviously got a great amount of talent, but I don't think his value would have increased since he was drafted given he didn't really get any games in his time at the Swans.
Yeah agreed, I reckon you'd be pretty lucky to get #38.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Ringo on October 06, 2014, 03:02:27 PM
Agree Pick 38 for a player who has played one game in Seniors is overs.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: WCarey18 on October 06, 2014, 03:17:01 PM
Here's an intriguing thought....

Is there a way to get a four-way trade down to get Beams to Brisbane, Greenwood to Collingwood, and O'Rourke to North?

Brisbane gives: pick 4 + pick 24
Brisbane receives: Beams + pick 30

GWS gives: O'Rourke
GWS receives: pick 17 + pick 24

North gives: Greenwood + pick 17
North receives: O'Rourke

Collingwood gives: Beams + pick 30
Collingwood receives: Greenwood + pick 4
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Jroo on October 06, 2014, 03:19:53 PM
Quote from: WCarey18 on October 06, 2014, 03:17:01 PM
Here's an intriguing thought....

Is there a way to get a four-way trade down to get Beams to Brisbane, Greenwood to Collingwood, and O'Rourke to North?

Brisbane gives: pick 4 + pick 24
Brisbane receives: Beams + pick 30

GWS gives: O'Rourke
GWS receives: pick 17 + pick 24

North gives: Greenwood + pick 17
North receives: O'Rourke

Collingwood gives: Beams + pick 30
Collingwood receives: Greenwood + pick 4
Collingwood wouldn't accept that and no way Norf would pay Greenwood + a first rounder for JOR.

Looks like JOR is heading to the Hawks/Saints,  atm anyway.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: AFEV on October 06, 2014, 03:20:17 PM
Pick 61 or whatever it is for Z Cordy is a major steal. Very agile for his size, could be a very good player for the Bulldogs.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: SydneyRox on October 06, 2014, 03:20:26 PM
Quote from: Ringo on October 06, 2014, 03:02:27 PM
Agree Pick 38 for a player who has played one game in Seniors is overs.

From the trade radio grab just now, seems like it is going to be a straight forward swap for 38

Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: The_Captain on October 06, 2014, 03:25:05 PM
Quote from: JROO8 on October 06, 2014, 03:19:53 PM
Quote from: WCarey18 on October 06, 2014, 03:17:01 PM
Here's an intriguing thought....

Is there a way to get a four-way trade down to get Beams to Brisbane, Greenwood to Collingwood, and O'Rourke to North?

Brisbane gives: pick 4 + pick 24
Brisbane receives: Beams + pick 30

GWS gives: O'Rourke
GWS receives: pick 17 + pick 24

North gives: Greenwood + pick 17
North receives: O'Rourke

Collingwood gives: Beams + pick 30
Collingwood receives: Greenwood + pick 4
Collingwood wouldn't accept that and no way Norf would pay Greenwood + a first rounder for JOR.

Looks like JOR is heading to the Hawks/Saints,  atm anyway.

Surely not the hawks... Do they even pay there players. How do they get Frawley? wasnt that spud requesting 600k a year?
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: WCarey18 on October 06, 2014, 03:28:00 PM
Quote from: JROO8 on October 06, 2014, 03:19:53 PM
Quote from: WCarey18 on October 06, 2014, 03:17:01 PM
Here's an intriguing thought....

Is there a way to get a four-way trade down to get Beams to Brisbane, Greenwood to Collingwood, and O'Rourke to North?

Brisbane gives: pick 4 + pick 24
Brisbane receives: Beams + pick 30

GWS gives: O'Rourke
GWS receives: pick 17 + pick 24

North gives: Greenwood + pick 17
North receives: O'Rourke

Collingwood gives: Beams + pick 30
Collingwood receives: Greenwood + pick 4
Collingwood wouldn't accept that and no way Norf would pay Greenwood + a first rounder for JOR.

Looks like JOR is heading to the Hawks/Saints,  atm anyway.

Instead of just shutting it down, perhaps you could make a suggestion on improvements? No reason why O'Rourke can't come to North, not like O'Rourke has said where he'd like to end up....
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Ricochet on October 06, 2014, 03:30:38 PM
Quote from: noto07 on October 06, 2014, 03:25:05 PM
Quote from: JROO8 on October 06, 2014, 03:19:53 PM
Quote from: WCarey18 on October 06, 2014, 03:17:01 PM
Here's an intriguing thought....

Is there a way to get a four-way trade down to get Beams to Brisbane, Greenwood to Collingwood, and O'Rourke to North?

Brisbane gives: pick 4 + pick 24
Brisbane receives: Beams + pick 30

GWS gives: O'Rourke
GWS receives: pick 17 + pick 24

North gives: Greenwood + pick 17
North receives: O'Rourke

Collingwood gives: Beams + pick 30
Collingwood receives: Greenwood + pick 4
Collingwood wouldn't accept that and no way Norf would pay Greenwood + a first rounder for JOR.

Looks like JOR is heading to the Hawks/Saints,  atm anyway.

Surely not the hawks... Do they even pay there players. How do they get Frawley? wasnt that spud requesting 600k a year?
Lost Buddy and now Sewell. So they have room
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Jroo on October 06, 2014, 03:32:01 PM
Quote from: WCarey18 on October 06, 2014, 03:28:00 PM
Quote from: JROO8 on October 06, 2014, 03:19:53 PM
Quote from: WCarey18 on October 06, 2014, 03:17:01 PM
Here's an intriguing thought....

Is there a way to get a four-way trade down to get Beams to Brisbane, Greenwood to Collingwood, and O'Rourke to North?

Brisbane gives: pick 4 + pick 24
Brisbane receives: Beams + pick 30

GWS gives: O'Rourke
GWS receives: pick 17 + pick 24

North gives: Greenwood + pick 17
North receives: O'Rourke

Collingwood gives: Beams + pick 30
Collingwood receives: Greenwood + pick 4
Collingwood wouldn't accept that and no way Norf would pay Greenwood + a first rounder for JOR.

Looks like JOR is heading to the Hawks/Saints,  atm anyway.

Instead of just shutting it down, perhaps you could make a suggestion on improvements? No reason why O'Rourke can't come to North, not like O'Rourke has said where he'd like to end up....
Well currently this is what I've heard
@superfooty: Correction, 2-way race for Jono O'Rourke between Saints and Hawks. St Kilda and Carlton chasing Jaksch too!

Not sure why JOR would want to come to Norf and Pick 17 and Greenwood is way overs.

Collingwood wouldn't do that either, they wouldn't trade Beams for 4 + 24, so not sure why they'd give up 30, too  :P

I can't see a 3/4 way trade happening.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Holz on October 06, 2014, 03:34:31 PM
Quote from: WCarey18 on October 06, 2014, 03:28:00 PM
Quote from: JROO8 on October 06, 2014, 03:19:53 PM
Quote from: WCarey18 on October 06, 2014, 03:17:01 PM
Here's an intriguing thought....

Is there a way to get a four-way trade down to get Beams to Brisbane, Greenwood to Collingwood, and O'Rourke to North?

Brisbane gives: pick 4 + pick 24
Brisbane receives: Beams + pick 30

GWS gives: O'Rourke
GWS receives: pick 17 + pick 24

North gives: Greenwood + pick 17
North receives: O'Rourke

Collingwood gives: Beams + pick 30
Collingwood receives: Greenwood + pick 4
Collingwood wouldn't accept that and no way Norf would pay Greenwood + a first rounder for JOR.

Looks like JOR is heading to the Hawks/Saints,  atm anyway.

Instead of just shutting it down, perhaps you could make a suggestion on improvements? No reason why O'Rourke can't come to North, not like O'Rourke has said where he'd like to end up....

We will keep greenwood, we are pushing for a premiership and he is a vital player. I doubt north are stupid enough to let him leave at all and im sure they planned the Higgins and Waite moves coordinating with greenwood. Getting Higgins and Waite was to push for a flag so to drop Greenwood for an unproven player goes completely against the plan, might as well just kept Greenwood and not sign higgins.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: meow meow on October 06, 2014, 03:38:35 PM
Quote from: Holz on October 06, 2014, 03:34:31 PM
We will keep greenwood

Collingwood, Richmond and the Bulldogs have offered him a better contract than North have.


Pies asked for either of Hanley, Zorko, Aish or Mayes in the Beams deal.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: WCarey18 on October 06, 2014, 03:47:15 PM
Quote from: Holz on October 06, 2014, 03:34:31 PM
Quote from: WCarey18 on October 06, 2014, 03:28:00 PM
Quote from: JROO8 on October 06, 2014, 03:19:53 PM
Quote from: WCarey18 on October 06, 2014, 03:17:01 PM
Here's an intriguing thought....

Is there a way to get a four-way trade down to get Beams to Brisbane, Greenwood to Collingwood, and O'Rourke to North?

Brisbane gives: pick 4 + pick 24
Brisbane receives: Beams + pick 30

GWS gives: O'Rourke
GWS receives: pick 17 + pick 24

North gives: Greenwood + pick 17
North receives: O'Rourke

Collingwood gives: Beams + pick 30
Collingwood receives: Greenwood + pick 4
Collingwood wouldn't accept that and no way Norf would pay Greenwood + a first rounder for JOR.

Looks like JOR is heading to the Hawks/Saints,  atm anyway.

Instead of just shutting it down, perhaps you could make a suggestion on improvements? No reason why O'Rourke can't come to North, not like O'Rourke has said where he'd like to end up....

We will keep greenwood, we are pushing for a premiership and he is a vital player. I doubt north are stupid enough to let him leave at all and im sure they planned the Higgins and Waite moves coordinating with greenwood. Getting Higgins and Waite was to push for a flag so to drop Greenwood for an unproven player goes completely against the plan, might as well just kept Greenwood and not sign higgins.

I hope we can keep him too, but the longer this drags on, the less likely we are to keep him.  :-\

If North are going to want a midfielder in return, this is where our trade will fail, as there a few available on the table. O'Rourke would be our best bet, as I doubt we could pry Howlett from Essendon (if that rumor is true...)
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: WCarey18 on October 06, 2014, 03:49:39 PM
Quote from: meow meow on October 06, 2014, 03:38:35 PM
Quote from: Holz on October 06, 2014, 03:34:31 PM
We will keep greenwood

Collingwood, Richmond and the Bulldogs have offered him a better contract than North have.


Pies asked for either of Hanley, Zorko, Aish or Mayes in the Beams deal.

Brisbane have told Collingwood today that they will NOT be getting a player in return for Beams.

Source: @AyrtonWoolley
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Ricochet on October 06, 2014, 03:55:53 PM
Melbourne's James Strauss is set to leave the club after the out of contract Demon was told to look for a new home by coach Roos.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Mr.Craig on October 06, 2014, 04:11:09 PM
Been very quiet on the Mitch Robinson front. I wonder what's going on there.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: elephants on October 06, 2014, 04:13:37 PM
Quote from: Mr.Craig on October 06, 2014, 04:11:09 PM
Been very quiet on the Mitch Robinson front. I wonder what's going on there.

Massive head-case but he's got plenty of ability. Should land somewhere you'd think.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: sammy123 on October 06, 2014, 04:24:53 PM
Quote from: WCarey18 on October 06, 2014, 03:49:39 PM
Quote from: meow meow on October 06, 2014, 03:38:35 PM
Quote from: Holz on October 06, 2014, 03:34:31 PM
We will keep greenwood

Collingwood, Richmond and the Bulldogs have offered him a better contract than North have.


Pies asked for either of Hanley, Zorko, Aish or Mayes in the Beams deal.

Brisbane have told Collingwood today that they will NOT be getting a player in return for Beams.

Source: @AyrtonWoolley



I understand brisbane saying no. But beams isnt worth pick 4 in the draft. He's a superstar one of the better players in the game. Brisbane should give up one of those players listed.

Good on collingwood for standing up. Brisbane are offering them crap
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Mailman the 2nd on October 06, 2014, 04:37:19 PM
Quote from: elephants on October 06, 2014, 04:13:37 PM
Quote from: Mr.Craig on October 06, 2014, 04:11:09 PM
Been very quiet on the Mitch Robinson front. I wonder what's going on there.

Massive head-case but he's got plenty of ability. Should land somewhere you'd think.

No clubs care about him yet because Carlton don't want him and most will just wait for him to be delisted before taking him
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: _wato on October 06, 2014, 04:40:37 PM
Brisbane have said they aren't offering a player at all? They must have rocks in their head if they honestly believe Merrett (only player they have offered) and pick 4 will be enough.

That's about as pathetic as us offering Brisbane pick 4 and Hudson for Rockliff? Would never happen.

They need to understand that all their players can't be placed off limits or nothing will happen. Surely Beams must be disgruntled that they aren't offering anything that is even half decent to the Pies, giving the sense they don't value him much and I'm sure all he wants is to get up there and move on from this saga too.

Pick 4 and Mayes if no other party is to get involved Lions, or you better start managing some trade ideas worth considering hahahaha
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Ricochet on October 06, 2014, 04:42:57 PM
Mitch Cleary ‏@cleary_mitch  4m4 minutes ago
Levi Greenwood will announce his football future tomorrow. Away in Bali, will decide between North Melb, Coll & WBD. No offer from Richmond
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Nige on October 06, 2014, 04:47:20 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on October 06, 2014, 04:42:57 PM
Mitch Cleary ‏@cleary_mitch  4m4 minutes ago
Levi Greenwood will announce his football future tomorrow. Away in Bali, will decide between North Melb, Coll & WBD. No offer from Richmond
:( Bugger. Would have liked him to be in yellow and black.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Toga on October 06, 2014, 04:50:56 PM
Bit of a shame as he's the kind of player the Tiges could probably do with. Club must have something planned for next year's crop of Free Agents or something as it seems like they are happy to sit on their hands for the moment
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: shaker on October 06, 2014, 04:55:46 PM
Quote from: Toga on October 06, 2014, 04:50:56 PM
Bit of a shame as he's the kind of player the Tiges could probably do with. Club must have something planned for next year's crop of Free Agents or something as it seems like they are happy to sit on their hands for the moment

Does not mean they won't only takes a phone call
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Nige on October 06, 2014, 04:56:06 PM
Quote from: Toga on October 06, 2014, 04:50:56 PM
Bit of a shame as he's the kind of player the Tiges could probably do with. Club must have something planned for next year's crop of Free Agents or something as it seems like they are happy to sit on their hands for the moment
Just said the same thing on chat. Must have plans for next year and be content with recruiting the kids this year.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Samsturmfels on October 06, 2014, 05:22:43 PM
Another 3 way deal idea
Brisbane get beams and lose pick 3 + 24
North get pick 24 and lose Greenwood
Collingwood get pick 4 and Greenwood, and lose beams
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Ricochet on October 06, 2014, 05:23:39 PM
Thats probably the way they're heading I reckon man
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Tominator on October 06, 2014, 05:24:21 PM
Quote from: elephants on October 06, 2014, 04:13:37 PM
Quote from: Mr.Craig on October 06, 2014, 04:11:09 PM
Been very quiet on the Mitch Robinson front. I wonder what's going on there.

Massive head-case but he's got plenty of ability. Should land somewhere you'd think.

Hearing rumours of a Liam Jones - Mitch Robinson straight swap. If both parties are willing, that'd be a win-win trade

No trades completed on day 1 of the window. A lot of clubs really demanding high prices for their players now, and want maximum return (and then some) for their players who want out
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Big Mac on October 06, 2014, 05:26:51 PM
Quote from: Tominator on October 06, 2014, 05:24:21 PM
No trades completed on day 1 of the window. A lot of clubs really demanding high prices for their players now, and want maximum return (and then some) for their players who want out

Yeh I really thought the Clark and H' deals would be sorted by now - let the clubs get on to more pressing trades
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: GoLions on October 06, 2014, 05:28:57 PM
Quote from: _wato on October 06, 2014, 04:40:37 PM
Brisbane have said they aren't offering a player at all? They must have rocks in their head if they honestly believe Merrett (only player they have offered) and pick 4 will be enough.

That's about as pathetic as us offering Brisbane pick 4 and Hudson for Rockliff? Would never happen.

They need to understand that all their players can't be placed off limits or nothing will happen. Surely Beams must be disgruntled that they aren't offering anything that is even half decent to the Pies, giving the sense they don't value him much and I'm sure all he wants is to get up there and move on from this saga too.

Pick 4 and Mayes if no other party is to get involved Lions, or you better start managing some trade ideas worth considering hahahaha
I'd imagine that if it's gonna be even remotely a fair deal for Collingwood, a third team will get involved. Remember only a year ago we lost 5 kids to the "go home" factor, so the younger kids we took last year might not look favourably on us if we traded someone of high value for Beams.
Also, if a trade doesn't get done, think it hurts you more than us tbh. We have plenty of mids, obviously Beams would be fantastic to have, but we still have Rich and Redden to come back from last year, Zorko can go in mids when necessary, and all our young kids like Aishyyyyyy.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: GoLions on October 06, 2014, 05:31:35 PM
Quote from: sammy123 on October 06, 2014, 04:24:53 PM
Quote from: WCarey18 on October 06, 2014, 03:49:39 PM
Quote from: meow meow on October 06, 2014, 03:38:35 PM
Quote from: Holz on October 06, 2014, 03:34:31 PM
We will keep greenwood

Collingwood, Richmond and the Bulldogs have offered him a better contract than North have.


Pies asked for either of Hanley, Zorko, Aish or Mayes in the Beams deal.

Brisbane have told Collingwood today that they will NOT be getting a player in return for Beams.

Source: @AyrtonWoolley



I understand brisbane saying no. But beams isnt worth pick 4 in the draft. He's a superstar one of the better players in the game. Brisbane should give up one of those players listed.

Good on collingwood for standing up. Brisbane are offering them crap
We didn't say we were going to stick with just offering pick 4 either. It looks as though we'll be tossing in either our 2nd round pick as well, or if we get something from Merrett/Patfull (should they happen to go). Or we don't get him and continue on as we were, and the Pies either deal with the Suns or get stuck with a player who doesn't want to be there.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: nrich102 on October 06, 2014, 05:36:53 PM
Does anyone remember how last trade period the Lions were trade graped with the go home 5 and all?? Surely its our turn to get a deal we win :P
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Ricochet on October 06, 2014, 05:37:38 PM
Pick 3 for Melb. Good result
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: GoLions on October 06, 2014, 05:40:41 PM
I guess pick 4 to the Pies is officially off the table as well now :P
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Cambo on October 06, 2014, 06:14:20 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on October 06, 2014, 05:37:38 PM
Pick 3 for Melb. Good result

What a joke
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Jay on October 06, 2014, 06:17:36 PM
Quote from: Cambo on October 06, 2014, 06:14:20 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on October 06, 2014, 05:37:38 PM
Pick 3 for Melb. Good result

What a joke
Surely an under the table priority pick?
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Vinny on October 06, 2014, 06:18:48 PM
Has Jaksch nominated Carlton officially as his preferred destination?
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Ricochet on October 06, 2014, 06:19:34 PM
Quote from: Cambo on October 06, 2014, 06:14:20 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on October 06, 2014, 05:37:38 PM
Pick 3 for Melb. Good result

What a joke
How's it a joke?
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Big Mac on October 06, 2014, 06:21:49 PM
Quote from: Jayman on October 06, 2014, 06:17:36 PM
Quote from: Cambo on October 06, 2014, 06:14:20 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on October 06, 2014, 05:37:38 PM
Pick 3 for Melb. Good result

What a joke
Surely an under the table priority pick?

Wouldn't matter if it was Sam Blease leaving the club - It's all about contract length, value, the player's age and the ladder position of the team losing the player
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Toga on October 06, 2014, 06:23:27 PM
Quote from: Vinny on October 06, 2014, 06:18:48 PM
Has Jaksch nominated Carlton officially as his preferred destination?

Nope, although I'm pretty sure his manager said today that he was probably leaning towards wanting to go to the Blues ;)
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Jroo on October 06, 2014, 06:24:53 PM
Quote from: Big  Mac on October 06, 2014, 06:21:49 PM
Quote from: Jayman on October 06, 2014, 06:17:36 PM
Quote from: Cambo on October 06, 2014, 06:14:20 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on October 06, 2014, 05:37:38 PM
Pick 3 for Melb. Good result

What a joke
Surely an under the table priority pick?

Wouldn't matter if it was Sam Blease leaving the club - It's all about contract length, value, the player's age and the ladder position of the team losing the player
Yep exactly, they're the rules! Not saying they're right, but according to the rules that's what the Dees should get.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: meow meow on October 06, 2014, 06:27:15 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on October 06, 2014, 06:19:34 PM
Quote from: Cambo on October 06, 2014, 06:14:20 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on October 06, 2014, 05:37:38 PM
Pick 3 for Melb. Good result

What a joke
How's it a joke?

All compo picks are a joke.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Vinny on October 06, 2014, 06:34:02 PM
Quote from: Toga on October 06, 2014, 06:23:27 PM
Quote from: Vinny on October 06, 2014, 06:18:48 PM
Has Jaksch nominated Carlton officially as his preferred destination?

Nope, although I'm pretty sure his manager said today that he was probably leaning towards wanting to go to the Blues ;)
Sweet, thanks man. I am happy to take the punt on him as long as it doesn't take Pick 6!


Kane Lucas has got some interest in Freo I've heard. What you guys think Ric/Valk?
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Ringo on October 06, 2014, 06:57:55 PM
Just remember Pies fans you traded Karnezis for spud Jackson Paine last year just because Karnezis named you as club of choice and were left with nothing else.
If you guys think Pick 5 has not got a lot of currency then you have rocks in your head as well. If Rocky has expressed a desire to go to Pies I would be accepting Pick 4 and a Fasolo, Blair or similar is what we are offering with Golby.

Unfortunately because of the go home factor last year we are not in an overly strong position player wise which is why we can not afford to give the players you ask for.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Ricochet on October 06, 2014, 07:08:08 PM
Essendon now asking for Hartlett in exchange for Ryder. Thats pretty fair imo
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Ricochet on October 06, 2014, 07:11:08 PM
Quote from: Vinny on October 06, 2014, 06:34:02 PM
Kane Lucas has got some interest in Freo I've heard. What you guys think Ric/Valk?
Don't mind it because he shouldn't cost us flower all. Will just create more competition for spots (although there is already quite a bit of competition there)
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Vinny on October 06, 2014, 07:17:02 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on October 06, 2014, 07:11:08 PM
Quote from: Vinny on October 06, 2014, 06:34:02 PM
Kane Lucas has got some interest in Freo I've heard. What you guys think Ric/Valk?
Don't mind it because he shouldn't cost us flower all. Will just create more competition for spots (although there is already quite a bit of competition there)
Fair enough haha.

3rd rounder? Even though he is a spud, high draft pick and has AFL experience. :P

2nd? No? Okay. :(
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Toga on October 06, 2014, 07:17:50 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on October 06, 2014, 07:08:08 PM
Essendon now asking for Hartlett in exchange for Ryder. Thats pretty fair imo

Would Hartlett want to move, being an Adelaide boy though?
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Mat0369 on October 06, 2014, 07:36:16 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on October 06, 2014, 07:08:08 PM
Essendon now asking for Hartlett in exchange for Ryder. Thats pretty fair imo

Sarcasm?

Quote from: Ricochet on October 06, 2014, 07:11:08 PM
Don't mind it because he shouldn't cost us flower all. Will just create more competition for spots (although there is already quite a bit of competition there)

You can get him to compete with Pearce for the outside midfield position that butchers the ball
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Ricochet on October 06, 2014, 07:37:53 PM
Quote from: Vinny on October 06, 2014, 07:17:02 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on October 06, 2014, 07:11:08 PM
Quote from: Vinny on October 06, 2014, 06:34:02 PM
Kane Lucas has got some interest in Freo I've heard. What you guys think Ric/Valk?
Don't mind it because he shouldn't cost us flower all. Will just create more competition for spots (although there is already quite a bit of competition there)
Fair enough haha.

3rd rounder? Even though he is a spud, high draft pick and has AFL experience. :P

2nd? No? Okay. :(
1st rounder? OK deal :P
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: WCarey18 on October 06, 2014, 07:49:40 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on October 06, 2014, 07:08:08 PM
Essendon now asking for Hartlett in exchange for Ryder. Thats pretty fair imo

Let me guess pick 16 and Harlett for Ryder?  ::)
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Ricochet on October 06, 2014, 07:58:31 PM
Quote from: WCarey18 on October 06, 2014, 07:49:40 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on October 06, 2014, 07:08:08 PM
Essendon now asking for Hartlett in exchange for Ryder. Thats pretty fair imo

Let me guess pick 16 and Harlett for Ryder?  ::)
No... Just the payer.  Pick 16 wasn't enough by itself
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Mr.Craig on October 06, 2014, 08:04:12 PM
I think that's fair.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Vinny on October 06, 2014, 08:04:18 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on October 06, 2014, 07:37:53 PM
Quote from: Vinny on October 06, 2014, 07:17:02 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on October 06, 2014, 07:11:08 PM
Quote from: Vinny on October 06, 2014, 06:34:02 PM
Kane Lucas has got some interest in Freo I've heard. What you guys think Ric/Valk?
Don't mind it because he shouldn't cost us flower all. Will just create more competition for spots (although there is already quite a bit of competition there)
Fair enough haha.

3rd rounder? Even though he is a spud, high draft pick and has AFL experience. :P

2nd? No? Okay. :(
1st rounder? OK deal :P
Too easy man! Done. 8)
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Toga on October 06, 2014, 08:06:12 PM
It's not unfair, but will what Hartlett wants be a factor in negotiations?

Being a West Adelaide boy not sure he'd be wanting to move away from Adelaide, especially with how Port is shaping up as a team
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Ricochet on October 06, 2014, 08:07:43 PM
Yeh not sure why his name has come up either Toges
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Mat0369 on October 06, 2014, 08:08:49 PM
You guys are seriously underrating Hartlett. There is no way Port make that deal. And considering Essendon could very well walk away with nothing they should take the pick and shut the F up
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Nige on October 06, 2014, 08:09:09 PM
Can't imagine too many Port players wanting to go to Essendon considering where both teams are at.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: kilbluff1985 on October 06, 2014, 08:11:00 PM
Quote from: Mat0369 on October 06, 2014, 08:08:49 PM
You guys are seriously underrating Hartlett. There is no way Port make that deal. And considering Essendon could very well walk away with nothing they should take the pick and shut the F up

you would take pick 16 for Kreuzer if he wanted to leave?
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Mat0369 on October 06, 2014, 08:12:23 PM
Quote from: Ringo on October 06, 2014, 06:57:55 PM
Just remember Pies fans you traded Karnezis for spud Jackson Paine last year just because Karnezis named you as club of choice and were left with nothing else.
If you guys think Pick 5 has not got a lot of currency then you have rocks in your head as well. If Rocky has expressed a desire to go to Pies I would be accepting Pick 4 and a Fasolo, Blair or similar is what we are offering with Golby.

Unfortunately because of the go home factor last year we are not in an overly strong position player wise which is why we can not afford to give the players you ask for.

What exactly has Karnezis done to prove he is worth more then Paine? Paine had some pretty good VFL form where Karnezis has struggled to even find a position and has been a huge bust. There is no way Collingwood should accept Golby, Crisp of Lester in that deal. I think they would rather wait 12 months.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Toga on October 06, 2014, 08:13:37 PM
Not underrating Hartlett as I think he is a seriously good player mate. But so is Ryder... So on face value, a swap of the two wouldn't be an unfair deal, but as to whether I think it would happen, I'd say no chance.

Essendon does not have the leverage in this deal to be asking for Port's elite players unfortunately, so given the situation I don't think a trade like this would eventuate... But Dodoro is one stubborn mother flowerer :P
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Mat0369 on October 06, 2014, 08:14:53 PM
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on October 06, 2014, 08:11:00 PM
you would take pick 16 for Kreuzer if he wanted to leave?

There is a difference between Kreuz and Ryder, Ryder can walk for nothing while Kreuzer is contracted. I would probably take pick 10 for Kreuz now though with his injuries
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Mat0369 on October 06, 2014, 08:16:01 PM
Quote from: Toga on October 06, 2014, 08:13:37 PM
Not underrating Hartlett as I think he is a seriously good player mate. But so is Ryder... So on face value, a swap of the two wouldn't be an unfair deal, but as to whether I think it would happen, I'd say no chance.

Essendon does not have the leverage in this deal to be asking for Port's elite players unfortunately, so given the situation I don't think a trade like this would eventuate... But Dodoro is one stubborn mother flowerer :P

If the deal was happening in a situation where Ryder could break contract and leave for nothing, yeah sure, but Essendon have no leverage at all in this deal.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Toga on October 06, 2014, 08:19:17 PM
Yeah, that's what I'm saying dude. A deal like this won't get done, because Essendon isn't really in a position to bargain so really they're gonna have to take what they can get (as we saw with Brisbane last year).
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: nrich102 on October 06, 2014, 08:29:18 PM
Quote from: Mat0369 on October 06, 2014, 08:12:23 PM
Quote from: Ringo on October 06, 2014, 06:57:55 PM
Just remember Pies fans you traded Karnezis for spud Jackson Paine last year just because Karnezis named you as club of choice and were left with nothing else.
If you guys think Pick 5 has not got a lot of currency then you have rocks in your head as well. If Rocky has expressed a desire to go to Pies I would be accepting Pick 4 and a Fasolo, Blair or similar is what we are offering with Golby.

Unfortunately because of the go home factor last year we are not in an overly strong position player wise which is why we can not afford to give the players you ask for.

What exactly has Karnezis done to prove he is worth more then Paine? Paine had some pretty good VFL form where Karnezis has struggled to even find a position and has been a huge bust. There is no way Collingwood should accept Golby, Crisp of Lester in that deal. I think they would rather wait 12 months.
Karmezis was in Brisbanes best 22 IMO, however I believe that he let the club know early in the year that he wanted to move, so they didn't play him. Karny is better than Pain in the butt by a long way.

Pick 5 and Golby/Crisp/Lester is a fair deal.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Mr.Craig on October 06, 2014, 08:30:00 PM
The thing is, Port are desperate for a goalkicking ruckman. Absolutely desperate. You could make an argument that Hawthorn wouldn't have two premierships if it wasn't for Hale.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: GoLions on October 06, 2014, 08:33:30 PM
Quote from: nrich102 on October 06, 2014, 08:29:18 PM
Quote from: Mat0369 on October 06, 2014, 08:12:23 PM
Quote from: Ringo on October 06, 2014, 06:57:55 PM
Just remember Pies fans you traded Karnezis for spud Jackson Paine last year just because Karnezis named you as club of choice and were left with nothing else.
If you guys think Pick 5 has not got a lot of currency then you have rocks in your head as well. If Rocky has expressed a desire to go to Pies I would be accepting Pick 4 and a Fasolo, Blair or similar is what we are offering with Golby.

Unfortunately because of the go home factor last year we are not in an overly strong position player wise which is why we can not afford to give the players you ask for.

What exactly has Karnezis done to prove he is worth more then Paine? Paine had some pretty good VFL form where Karnezis has struggled to even find a position and has been a huge bust. There is no way Collingwood should accept Golby, Crisp of Lester in that deal. I think they would rather wait 12 months.
Karmezis was in Brisbanes best 22 IMO, however I believe that he let the club know early in the year that he wanted to move, so they didn't play him. Karny is better than Pain in the butt by a long way.

Pick 5 and Golby/Crisp/Lester is a fair deal.
Correct. My Aunty is also his Aunty or cousin or some shower, so they told me about it fairly early on in the season (especially with them being Pies supporters). No point developing a kid any further for another club.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Nige on October 06, 2014, 08:44:12 PM
http://www.theage.com.au/afl/afl-news/another-bomber-wants-out-jason-winderlich-wants-to-play-on-with-tigers-20141006-10r1mw.html

I'm fine with this.

Bombers probably going to play hardball though and demand Cotch or Lids in return.  ::)
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: sammy123 on October 06, 2014, 08:48:32 PM
Quote from: GoLions on October 06, 2014, 05:31:35 PM
Quote from: sammy123 on October 06, 2014, 04:24:53 PM
Quote from: WCarey18 on October 06, 2014, 03:49:39 PM
Quote from: meow meow on October 06, 2014, 03:38:35 PM
Quote from: Holz on October 06, 2014, 03:34:31 PM
We will keep greenwood

Collingwood, Richmond and the Bulldogs have offered him a better contract than North have.


Pies asked for either of Hanley, Zorko, Aish or Mayes in the Beams deal.

Brisbane have told Collingwood today that they will NOT be getting a player in return for Beams.

Source: @AyrtonWoolley



I understand brisbane saying no. But beams isnt worth pick 4 in the draft. He's a superstar one of the better players in the game. Brisbane should give up one of those players listed.

Good on collingwood for standing up. Brisbane are offering them crap
We didn't say we were going to stick with just offering pick 4 either. It looks as though we'll be tossing in either our 2nd round pick as well, or if we get something from Merrett/Patfull (should they happen to go). Or we don't get him and continue on as we were, and the Pies either deal with the Suns or get stuck with a player who doesn't want to be there.


Yeah but even 2 draft picks isnt worth it. Beams has to be a straight swap for a Brisbane elite player.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Mr.Craig on October 06, 2014, 08:51:18 PM
When you play hardball sometimes you get beamed.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Jroo on October 06, 2014, 08:59:36 PM
Not surprised by this
@theafloffseason: Carlton have shown interest in North Melbourne's Liam Anthony.

Carlton need more spuds ::)
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Nige on October 06, 2014, 09:00:40 PM
Quote from: JROO8 on October 06, 2014, 08:59:36 PM
Not surprised by this
@theafloffseason: Carlton have shown interest in North Melbourne's Liam Anthony.

Carlton need more spuds ::)
Carlton will probably relocate to Brisbane so they can show interest in Beams soon.  :P
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Vinny on October 06, 2014, 09:01:17 PM
Quote from: JROO8 on October 06, 2014, 08:59:36 PM
Not surprised by this
@theafloffseason: Carlton have shown interest in North Melbourne's Liam Anthony.

Carlton need more spuds ::)
No please, we don't need him.

I want games into Cripps, Graham, Bell, Buckley etc.

Go away Liam.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: GoLions on October 06, 2014, 09:01:41 PM
Quote from: sammy123 on October 06, 2014, 08:48:32 PM
Quote from: GoLions on October 06, 2014, 05:31:35 PM
Quote from: sammy123 on October 06, 2014, 04:24:53 PM
Quote from: WCarey18 on October 06, 2014, 03:49:39 PM
Quote from: meow meow on October 06, 2014, 03:38:35 PM
Quote from: Holz on October 06, 2014, 03:34:31 PM
We will keep greenwood

Collingwood, Richmond and the Bulldogs have offered him a better contract than North have.


Pies asked for either of Hanley, Zorko, Aish or Mayes in the Beams deal.

Brisbane have told Collingwood today that they will NOT be getting a player in return for Beams.

Source: @AyrtonWoolley



I understand brisbane saying no. But beams isnt worth pick 4 in the draft. He's a superstar one of the better players in the game. Brisbane should give up one of those players listed.

Good on collingwood for standing up. Brisbane are offering them crap
We didn't say we were going to stick with just offering pick 4 either. It looks as though we'll be tossing in either our 2nd round pick as well, or if we get something from Merrett/Patfull (should they happen to go). Or we don't get him and continue on as we were, and the Pies either deal with the Suns or get stuck with a player who doesn't want to be there.


Yeah but even 2 draft picks isnt worth it. Beams has to be a straight swap for a Brisbane elite player.
Beams is the one that wants to go though. If we swap an elite player (possibly with pick 4) then we effectively gain nothing from the trade and therefore there is no point in us trading at all.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: nrich102 on October 06, 2014, 09:09:38 PM
I think someone got it wrong somewhere, he's going to play for the northern blues in the vfl :P
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Dudge on October 06, 2014, 09:26:50 PM
Quote from: Mr.Craig on October 06, 2014, 08:30:00 PM
The thing is, Port are desperate for a goalkicking ruckman. Absolutely desperate. You could make an argument that Hawthorn wouldn't have two premierships if it wasn't for Hale.

You can make a argument for the chicken OR the egg aswell ;)
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Boomz on October 06, 2014, 09:34:09 PM
Cmon guys if your club was losing a top 5 ruckman in his prime you would be playing hardball too... Yes he could possibly use a clause to get out anyway but it's day 1 of trade week ffs if they were going around saying we accept pick 16 I'd be pretty worried.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Nails on October 06, 2014, 09:54:57 PM
Quote from: Boomz on October 06, 2014, 09:34:09 PM
Cmon guys if your club was losing a top 5 ruckman in his prime you would be playing hardball too... Yes he could possibly use a clause to get out anyway but it's day 1 of trade week ffs if they were going around saying we accept pick 16 I'd be pretty worried.

Shame Paddy isn't in the top 5 doe.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Tominator on October 06, 2014, 09:57:04 PM
Quote from: Toga on October 06, 2014, 06:23:27 PM
Quote from: Vinny on October 06, 2014, 06:18:48 PM
Has Jaksch nominated Carlton officially as his preferred destination?

Nope, although I'm pretty sure his manager said today that he was probably leaning towards wanting to go to the Blues ;)

Leaning toward it but hasn't decided for certain yet. Some interest from the Bulldogs and St Kilda too.

His agent, Matt Bain, also represents Tim Membrey, who's just requested to go to St Kilda - he'd be a ripper get who shouldn't cost too much either. I remember having Membrey pencilled in as a Top 20 pick in my own Phantom Draft back in 2012, but he somehow got to Pick 46 in the 2012 draft. So maybe Bain might try and get Membrey and Jaksch to both go to the Saints, but who knows

Jonathan O'Rourke is also tossing up St Kilda and Hawthorn amongst other clubs.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Dudge on October 06, 2014, 09:59:51 PM
Quote from: Boomz on October 06, 2014, 09:34:09 PM
Cmon guys if your club was losing a top 5 ruckman in his prime you would be playing hardball too... Yes he could possibly use a clause to get out anyway but it's day 1 of trade week ffs if they were going around saying we accept pick 16 I'd be pretty worried.

The thing is, he want's out mate. It's not like Port poached him 12 months ago. Everyone has to remember, he want's out regardless of where he goes. Just so happens he picked Port. So we'll give Hartlett, who hasn't said he wants to go. Do we throw in Boak as a sweetener?
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Boomz on October 06, 2014, 10:04:49 PM
Quote from: Nails on October 06, 2014, 09:54:57 PM
Quote from: Boomz on October 06, 2014, 09:34:09 PM
Cmon guys if your club was losing a top 5 ruckman in his prime you would be playing hardball too... Yes he could possibly use a clause to get out anyway but it's day 1 of trade week ffs if they were going around saying we accept pick 16 I'd be pretty worried.

Shame Paddy isn't in the top 5 doe.

Eh not as a ruckman alone but he kicked 20 goals and 7th for hitouts and at 26 he's still got a few good years in him. Not saying we shouldn't accept 16 but if we were going out and accepting 16 on the first day of trade week that would send a pretty clear message we are scared as flower about the get out clause and all others would come rushing. All clubs asking for ridiculous stuff at this point.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Boomz on October 06, 2014, 10:07:13 PM
Quote from: Dudge on October 06, 2014, 09:59:51 PM
Quote from: Boomz on October 06, 2014, 09:34:09 PM
Cmon guys if your club was losing a top 5 ruckman in his prime you would be playing hardball too... Yes he could possibly use a clause to get out anyway but it's day 1 of trade week ffs if they were going around saying we accept pick 16 I'd be pretty worried.

The thing is, he want's out mate. It's not like Port poached him 12 months ago. Everyone has to remember, he want's out regardless of where he goes. Just so happens he picked Port. So we'll give Hartlett, who hasn't said he wants to go. Do we throw in Boak as a sweetener?

Yes but he's contracted even with the clause that's gonna be yet another long legal battle if he goes that route (no I don't want it) so why should the club give in this early? Literally happens every trade period and either the club refusing to budge gets burned or they accept the deal at the end of the day...
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Toga on October 06, 2014, 10:27:27 PM
BREAKING:
The Gold Coast Suns have won the signature of Sydney Swans defender Nick Malceski according to The Age.

http://www.theage.com.au/afl/afl-news/sun-rises-for-swan-nick-malceski-with-threeyear-gold-coast-deal-20141006-10r2og.html
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Toga on October 06, 2014, 10:30:55 PM
The Gold Coast SUNS have signed Sydney Swans defender Nick Malceski as an unrestricted free agent.

http://www.goldcoastfc.com.au/news/2014-10-06/gc-suns-land-malceski

(https://fbcdn-sphotos-e-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xpa1/v/t1.0-9/10350416_10152374215505509_8372606494168040004_n.jpg?oh=727faad6ad5bf41bf8abd60bff4419ac&oe=54C3924F&__gda__=1420592473_fe0bd60553f306a1878619a9ac5240e2)
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: roo boys! on October 06, 2014, 10:32:38 PM
Suns looking dangerous!
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Dudge on October 06, 2014, 10:34:54 PM
Quote from: Boomz on October 06, 2014, 10:07:13 PM
Quote from: Dudge on October 06, 2014, 09:59:51 PM
Quote from: Boomz on October 06, 2014, 09:34:09 PM
Cmon guys if your club was losing a top 5 ruckman in his prime you would be playing hardball too... Yes he could possibly use a clause to get out anyway but it's day 1 of trade week ffs if they were going around saying we accept pick 16 I'd be pretty worried.

The thing is, he want's out mate. It's not like Port poached him 12 months ago. Everyone has to remember, he want's out regardless of where he goes. Just so happens he picked Port. So we'll give Hartlett, who hasn't said he wants to go. Do we throw in Boak as a sweetener?

Yes but he's contracted even with the clause that's gonna be yet another long legal battle if he goes that route (no I don't want it) so why should the club give in this early? Literally happens every trade period and either the club refusing to budge gets burned or they accept the deal at the end of the day...

I know where you're coming from Boomz, I'm just  getting paranoid haha
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Nails on October 06, 2014, 10:46:33 PM
That's an up yours to everyone saying Free Agency is only for players going to top 4.

Leaves grand finalist side to go to a team not even in top 8.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: WCarey18 on October 06, 2014, 10:48:59 PM
Quote from: Toga on October 06, 2014, 10:30:55 PM
The Gold Coast SUNS have signed Sydney Swans defender Nick Malceski as an unrestricted free agent.

http://www.goldcoastfc.com.au/news/2014-10-06/gc-suns-land-malceski

(https://fbcdn-sphotos-e-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xpa1/v/t1.0-9/10350416_10152374215505509_8372606494168040004_n.jpg?oh=727faad6ad5bf41bf8abd60bff4419ac&oe=54C3924F&__gda__=1420592473_fe0bd60553f306a1878619a9ac5240e2)

Be interesting to keep an eye on compensation after Carlton received nothing for Waite....
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: kilbluff1985 on October 06, 2014, 10:51:13 PM
They should get a pick after there first one for him
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Bill Manspeaker on October 06, 2014, 11:04:52 PM
he is 30 though... pretty sure age is taken into account
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Boomz on October 06, 2014, 11:06:33 PM
I'd say end of first round...
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Big Mac on October 06, 2014, 11:10:33 PM
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on October 06, 2014, 10:51:13 PM
They should get a pick after there first one for him

He's a great player there's no doubting that but the compensation isn't based on ability - 30 years old and only on a 3 year deal...will be interesting to see how the afl rules on this.

Quote from: Nails on October 06, 2014, 10:46:33 PM
That's an up yours to everyone saying Free Agency is only for players going to top 4.

Leaves grand finalist side to go to a team not even in top 8.

Not the same going to an expansion club imo
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: SydneyRox on October 06, 2014, 11:11:58 PM
Gutted. One of my fav Swans players. Wish him all the best.

An end of first round for a 2014 All Australian, premiership player, who signed a 3yr deal seems good, after 2nd round would be unders? Maybe end of first round instead of after our 1st round pick.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: kilbluff1985 on October 06, 2014, 11:14:59 PM
3 years isn't even a short contract though it's pretty average so dunno why you saying only

It's probably a good move after what they did with O'Keefe this year good for him and the club IMO
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Ziplock on October 06, 2014, 11:17:45 PM
3 year contract is a pretty reasonable length, end of first round?
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Mailman the 2nd on October 06, 2014, 11:25:59 PM
It won't be, FA is always crappy compensation they'll give like 2nd or 3rd round at best
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Ricochet on October 06, 2014, 11:30:29 PM
Quote from: Nails on October 06, 2014, 10:46:33 PM
That's an up yours to everyone saying Free Agency is only for players going to top 4.

Leaves grand finalist side to go to a team not even in top 8.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: SydneyRox on October 06, 2014, 11:31:56 PM
Quote from: Mailman the 2nd on October 06, 2014, 11:25:59 PM
It won't be, FA is always crappy compensation they'll give like 2nd or 3rd round at best

If shaun higgins is worth a 2nd round pick then Eski is worth more, surely.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Ricochet on October 06, 2014, 11:41:41 PM
Quote from: SydneyRox on October 06, 2014, 11:31:56 PM
Quote from: Mailman the 2nd on October 06, 2014, 11:25:59 PM
It won't be, FA is always crappy compensation they'll give like 2nd or 3rd round at best

If shaun higgins is worth a 2nd round pick then Eski is worth more, surely.
Higgins was offered a pretty ridic deal though, and is younger. Age will play a big part
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: stew42 on October 06, 2014, 11:44:39 PM
Breaking News: Hawthorn has lodged a request for a priority pick with the AFL. "We just thought it would be funny."
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: WCarey18 on October 06, 2014, 11:48:24 PM
IIRC, Matt White was offered a similar deal to go to Port (500k over 3 years). He's 3 years younger, yet the AFL gave Richmond pick 67 in return as compo.

Third round, otherwise this whole FA compo is a joke.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Ricochet on October 06, 2014, 11:49:06 PM
Matt White on 500k a year?
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: _wato on October 06, 2014, 11:53:06 PM
No excuses for Gold Coast now, surely.. Great list
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Jroo on October 06, 2014, 11:55:39 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on October 06, 2014, 11:49:06 PM
Matt White on 500k a year?
More likely 500k over three years :P

Eski a good signing, Swans will probably only get a 2nd rounder for them, if they're lucky though.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Pkbaldy on October 06, 2014, 11:59:18 PM
Quote from: JROO8 on October 06, 2014, 11:55:39 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on October 06, 2014, 11:49:06 PM
Matt White on 500k a year?
More likely 500k over three years :P

Eski a good signing, Swans will probably only get a 2nd rounder for them, if they're lucky though.

167k a year? Seems a cheap haha
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: henry on October 07, 2014, 12:33:59 AM
Quote from: WCarey18 on October 06, 2014, 11:48:24 PM
IIRC, Matt White was offered a similar deal to go to Port (500k over 3 years). He's 3 years younger, yet the AFL gave Richmond pick 67 in return as compo.

Third round, otherwise this whole FA compo is a joke.

If you're saying he's on 500k a year, I'm calling bs lol, but I'm not sure that's what you're saying. :P


Does anyone else think it's weird that GC are offering a 3 year deal to a guy who is 30 with really dodgy knees? I certainly wouldn't be giving him a 3 year deal, I think that's bizarre. :o
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: _wato on October 07, 2014, 12:44:53 AM
All Australian half back, premiership player, coming off a fantastic year, and fills their needs in a proper half back who can sit behind the play and dictate terms for them so Mckenzie can take the tall with May/Thompson?

I don't find it weird it all, I find it very intelligent for them - added much experience and all they need now is another good quick small forward/mid and they should by continuing to unearth their depth. become a very challenging side in the not too distant future.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Mr.Craig on October 07, 2014, 12:48:44 AM
Quote from: henry on October 07, 2014, 12:33:59 AM
Quote from: WCarey18 on October 06, 2014, 11:48:24 PM
IIRC, Matt White was offered a similar deal to go to Port (500k over 3 years). He's 3 years younger, yet the AFL gave Richmond pick 67 in return as compo.

Third round, otherwise this whole FA compo is a joke.

If you're saying he's on 500k a year, I'm calling bs lol, but I'm not sure that's what you're saying. :P


Does anyone else think it's weird that GC are offering a 3 year deal to a guy who is 30 with really dodgy knees? I certainly wouldn't be giving him a 3 year deal, I think that's bizarre. :o

I'd suggest there are probably clauses in the third year.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: SydneyRox on October 07, 2014, 01:19:12 AM
Quote from: Mr.Craig on October 07, 2014, 12:48:44 AM
Quote from: henry on October 07, 2014, 12:33:59 AM
Quote from: WCarey18 on October 06, 2014, 11:48:24 PM
IIRC, Matt White was offered a similar deal to go to Port (500k over 3 years). He's 3 years younger, yet the AFL gave Richmond pick 67 in return as compo.

Third round, otherwise this whole FA compo is a joke.

If you're saying he's on 500k a year, I'm calling bs lol, but I'm not sure that's what you're saying. :P


Does anyone else think it's weird that GC are offering a 3 year deal to a guy who is 30 with really dodgy knees? I certainly wouldn't be giving him a 3 year deal, I think that's bizarre. :o

I'd suggest there are probably clauses in the third year.

not sure, reports are swans offered him 2 with a trigger for 3. He wanted a full three.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Hellopplz on October 07, 2014, 02:58:09 AM
Quote from: Ricochet on October 06, 2014, 07:08:08 PM
Essendon now asking for Hartlett in exchange for Ryder. Thats pretty fair imo
Quote from: Mat0369 on October 06, 2014, 08:08:49 PM
You guys are seriously underrating Hartlett. There is no way Port make that deal. And considering Essendon could very well walk away with nothing they should take the pick and shut the F up
It's a fair deal but given that Ryder could walk, no position to play hardball. As Boomz said though, can't give in straight away, but we're bound to accept #16 + youngish guy I'd imagine (Probably Butcher/Moore) for him as he could walk for free. Bombers should be realistic under the circumstances...

Quote from: henry on October 07, 2014, 12:33:59 AM
Does anyone else think it's weird that GC are offering a 3 year deal to a guy who is 30 with really dodgy knees? I certainly wouldn't be giving him a 3 year deal, I think that's bizarre. :o
Other teams offered Eski 2 year deals, only way to get him over is 3 years and offers Suns experience. I'm sure they'll gamble that extra year with his injuries in order to actually have him play for the side! If nobody offered him 3 years, I'd imagine he'd have stayed a Swan. Simple for Suns, just offer him an extra year compared to other clubs in order to entice him to join the side.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: kilbluff1985 on October 07, 2014, 07:53:18 AM
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2014-10-06/malceski-becomes-a-sun

it's official
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: nrich102 on October 07, 2014, 08:23:35 AM
Just going to the better state  :P
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Nige on October 07, 2014, 09:18:22 AM
Good move Eski.  8)

Doesn't look bad in a Suns guernsey either.  ;)
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Nige on October 07, 2014, 09:37:12 AM
Rumours include...

Essendon demanding one of Hartlett, Wingard or Wines for Ryder.

Apparently the Lions and Pies have almost agreed to trade Redden + Pick 5 for Beams.

North interested in Varcoe, Crows interested in L.Jones.

Carlton might have to give up their first rounder for Jaksch and the Giants Pick 18 (or whatever it is, can't remember the exact number).
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: GoLions on October 07, 2014, 09:41:53 AM
Quote from: Nige on October 07, 2014, 09:37:12 AM
Apparently the Lions and Pies have almost agreed to trade Redden + Pick 5 for Beams.
Since when? I know the Magpies have asked for him, but haven't heard anything saying we'd even consider it.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Jay on October 07, 2014, 09:44:57 AM
Quote from: Nige on October 07, 2014, 09:37:12 AM
Crows interested in L.Jones.
Ohhh surely not. Because having Jenkins, Podsiadly and Lynch isn't already bad enough ::)
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Ricochet on October 07, 2014, 09:58:32 AM
Varcoe is 50/50 to stay or go to the Eagles
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Ricochet on October 07, 2014, 10:00:32 AM
CONFIRMED
Levi Greenwood has officially asked North Melbourne for a trade to Collingwood.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: kilbluff1985 on October 07, 2014, 10:02:40 AM
if Pies got pick 5, Redden and Greenwood that would be a huge win even if losing Beams

dunno about the Redden rumour though it's way overs
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Toga on October 07, 2014, 10:07:39 AM
Quote from: GoLions on October 07, 2014, 09:41:53 AM
Quote from: Nige on October 07, 2014, 09:37:12 AM
Apparently the Lions and Pies have almost agreed to trade Redden + Pick 5 for Beams.
Since when? I know the Magpies have asked for him, but haven't heard anything saying we'd even consider it.

Think this would be overs for Beams - he is an elite player, but Redden is thereabouts as well..
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Ricochet on October 07, 2014, 10:08:50 AM
dunno. Reckon is slightly overs but not as bad as some suggest. if  Pies chucked in a 2nd rounder it'd proly be fair.  doubt Brissie would let Redden go tho, or that Redden wants to go
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Toga on October 07, 2014, 10:10:21 AM
Quote from: Ricochet on October 07, 2014, 10:08:50 AM
doubt Brissie would let Redden go tho, or that Redden wants to go

This is why I'm confused about where this rumour is coming from :P
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: JBs-Hawks on October 07, 2014, 10:12:12 AM
Surely just a straight swap redden for beams
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Toga on October 07, 2014, 10:13:08 AM
Yeah I agree, if the Lions were to let Redden go then yeah I'm not sure the Pick 4 would be necessary
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Jay on October 07, 2014, 10:14:12 AM
Quote from: Toga on October 07, 2014, 10:10:21 AM
Quote from: Ricochet on October 07, 2014, 10:08:50 AM
doubt Brissie would let Redden go tho, or that Redden wants to go

This is why I'm confused about where this rumour is coming from :P
Does Redden get a say though? If they trade him, he's got to go.. Bernie didn't want to leave Adelaide last year. It happens.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: JBs-Hawks on October 07, 2014, 10:17:29 AM
Quote from: Jayman on October 07, 2014, 10:14:12 AM
Quote from: Toga on October 07, 2014, 10:10:21 AM
Quote from: Ricochet on October 07, 2014, 10:08:50 AM
doubt Brissie would let Redden go tho, or that Redden wants to go

This is why I'm confused about where this rumour is coming from :P
Does Redden get a say though? If they trade him, he's got to go.. Bernie didn't want to leave Adelaide last year. It happens.

If only redden  didnt hate the crows you could send danger to collingwood beams to brisbane and Redden  to the crows
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: kilbluff1985 on October 07, 2014, 10:18:42 AM
The AFL website is reporting that Adelaide and Essendon are leading the race for GWS Giants ruckman Jonathan Giles.

i like this news
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: T Dog on October 07, 2014, 10:20:07 AM
Winderlich to Tiges?  :o
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: WCarey18 on October 07, 2014, 10:20:18 AM
Quote from: JBs-Hawks on October 07, 2014, 10:17:29 AM
Quote from: Jayman on October 07, 2014, 10:14:12 AM
Quote from: Toga on October 07, 2014, 10:10:21 AM
Quote from: Ricochet on October 07, 2014, 10:08:50 AM
doubt Brissie would let Redden go tho, or that Redden wants to go

This is why I'm confused about where this rumour is coming from :P
Does Redden get a say though? If they trade him, he's got to go.. Bernie didn't want to leave Adelaide last year. It happens.

If only redden  didnt hate the crows you could send danger to collingwood beams to brisbane and Redden  to the crows

I love how people still believe there's a chance that Danger is going anywhere this year....

http://www.afl.com.au/news/2014-10-06/danger-trade-ridiculous
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: T Dog on October 07, 2014, 10:30:24 AM
Coonie on the move?  He is only 27, same age as Ryder  :o
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Nige on October 07, 2014, 10:30:49 AM
Quote from: Ricochet on October 07, 2014, 10:00:32 AM
CONFIRMED
Levi Greenwood has officially asked North Melbourne for a trade to Collingwood.
Wow, bit shocked. I really like the guy but I'm surprised by this.

Changing his stripes.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: WCarey18 on October 07, 2014, 10:36:18 AM
Quote from: Ricochet on October 07, 2014, 10:00:32 AM
CONFIRMED
Levi Greenwood has officially asked North Melbourne for a trade to Collingwood.

Source??
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Ricochet on October 07, 2014, 10:37:23 AM
Quote from: WCarey18 on October 07, 2014, 10:36:18 AM
Quote from: Ricochet on October 07, 2014, 10:00:32 AM
CONFIRMED
Levi Greenwood has officially asked North Melbourne for a trade to Collingwood.

Source??
Heraldsun, Trade Radio and AFL Trades page
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Ringo on October 07, 2014, 10:47:50 AM
If Redden was to be traded to Collingwood with Pick 4 for beams I would expect us to seek one of collingwoods picks in the 20s to be added as it is overs.  Redden for Beams should be a straight swap though if Brisbane want to go that way.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: WCarey18 on October 07, 2014, 11:10:00 AM
Quote from: Ricochet on October 07, 2014, 10:37:23 AM
Quote from: WCarey18 on October 07, 2014, 10:36:18 AM
Quote from: Ricochet on October 07, 2014, 10:00:32 AM
CONFIRMED
Levi Greenwood has officially asked North Melbourne for a trade to Collingwood.

Source??
Heraldsun, Trade Radio and AFL Trades page

Seeing a lack of confirmation anywhere...

Herald Sun still reporting that "Collingwood a frontrunner to secure North's Levi Greenwood", no mention on AFL site, @traderadio, and you'd be silly to believe anything Facebook says.

@robbo_heraldsun only said "Suspect Levi greenwood today announces he wants to move to collingwood #dealdone" and thats hardly a confirmation, keyword 'suspect'.

Last I heard he gets back to from holidaying in Bali today, and will meet with his manager to discuss contract options. North raised their offer on the weekend, with even more money and a longer tenure.

http://www.theaustralian.com.au/sport/afl/levi-greenwood-mulls-higher-offer-to-remain-at-north-melbourne/story-fnca0u4y-1227080745157?nk=e7e214da4a0efb66971e2fd13bd034fc
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Toga on October 07, 2014, 11:11:26 AM
Yeah I still haven't seen anything "official" yet. AFL live feed said: "Levi Greenwood has attracted interest from the Pies and Tigers" but that's all I have found so far.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Ricochet on October 07, 2014, 11:17:35 AM
Quote from: WCarey18 on October 07, 2014, 11:10:00 AM
Quote from: Ricochet on October 07, 2014, 10:37:23 AM
Quote from: WCarey18 on October 07, 2014, 10:36:18 AM
Quote from: Ricochet on October 07, 2014, 10:00:32 AM
CONFIRMED
Levi Greenwood has officially asked North Melbourne for a trade to Collingwood.

Source??
Heraldsun, Trade Radio and AFL Trades page

Seeing a lack of confirmation anywhere...

Herald Sun still reporting that "Collingwood a frontrunner to secure North's Levi Greenwood", no mention on AFL site, @traderadio, and you'd be silly to believe anything Facebook says.

@robbo_heraldsun only said "Suspect Levi greenwood today announces he wants to move to collingwood #dealdone" and thats hardly a confirmation, keyword 'suspect'.

Last I heard he gets back to from holidaying in Bali today, and will meet with his manager to discuss contract options. North raised their offer on the weekend, with even more money and a longer tenure.

http://www.theaustralian.com.au/sport/afl/levi-greenwood-mulls-higher-offer-to-remain-at-north-melbourne/story-fnca0u4y-1227080745157?nk=e7e214da4a0efb66971e2fd13bd034fc

AFL 24/7 ‏@Afltrade  1h1 hour ago
BREAKING: North Melbourne's Levi Greenwood has officially requested a trade to Collingwood! #AFL #AFLTradeWeek #AFLTrades #AFLTrade

2014 AFL Offseason ‏@theafloffseason  1h1 hour ago
CONFIRMED
Levi Greenwood has officially asked North Melbourne for a trade to Collingwood.

Mark Robinson ‏@Robbo_heraldsun  1h1 hour ago
Suspect Levi greenwood today announces he wants to move to collingwood. #dealdone

They're the three mate. key word is #dealdone from Robbo. AFL Trades pages are usually pretty good also
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: The_Captain on October 07, 2014, 11:19:37 AM
Any ideas on the trade that would happening?
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: WCarey18 on October 07, 2014, 11:25:35 AM
Quote from: Ricochet on October 07, 2014, 11:17:35 AM
Quote from: WCarey18 on October 07, 2014, 11:10:00 AM
Quote from: Ricochet on October 07, 2014, 10:37:23 AM
Quote from: WCarey18 on October 07, 2014, 10:36:18 AM
Quote from: Ricochet on October 07, 2014, 10:00:32 AM
CONFIRMED
Levi Greenwood has officially asked North Melbourne for a trade to Collingwood.

Source??
Heraldsun, Trade Radio and AFL Trades page

Seeing a lack of confirmation anywhere...

Herald Sun still reporting that "Collingwood a frontrunner to secure North's Levi Greenwood", no mention on AFL site, @traderadio, and you'd be silly to believe anything Facebook says.

@robbo_heraldsun only said "Suspect Levi greenwood today announces he wants to move to collingwood #dealdone" and thats hardly a confirmation, keyword 'suspect'.

Last I heard he gets back to from holidaying in Bali today, and will meet with his manager to discuss contract options. North raised their offer on the weekend, with even more money and a longer tenure.

http://www.theaustralian.com.au/sport/afl/levi-greenwood-mulls-higher-offer-to-remain-at-north-melbourne/story-fnca0u4y-1227080745157?nk=e7e214da4a0efb66971e2fd13bd034fc

AFL 24/7 ‏@Afltrade  1h1 hour ago
BREAKING: North Melbourne's Levi Greenwood has officially requested a trade to Collingwood! #AFL #AFLTradeWeek #AFLTrades #AFLTrade

2014 AFL Offseason ‏@theafloffseason  1h1 hour ago
CONFIRMED
Levi Greenwood has officially asked North Melbourne for a trade to Collingwood.

Mark Robinson ‏@Robbo_heraldsun  1h1 hour ago
Suspect Levi greenwood today announces he wants to move to collingwood. #dealdone

They're the three mate. key word is #dealdone from Robbo. AFL Trades pages are usually pretty good also

Hashtags mean absolutely zilch. Laughable you even think so. Robbo "suspects" Levi will make announcement, never said "Levi will announce".

Quote from: NoMoreRumorDo we have any confirmation that Levi Greenwood has asked to be traded to Collingwood? Or is this just another rumor....
Quote from: Ben WaterworthJust a whisper, but a very strong one and a lot of people going with it.

http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/trade-whispers-the-latest-news-during-the-afls-trade-period/story-fnp04d70-1227074447591
http://www.scribblelive.com/Event/AFL_trade_period_-_day_2_Oct_7/129264359

Taken from Herald Sun's Trade Whisper page. No confirmation.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Ricochet on October 07, 2014, 11:27:08 AM
Quote from: WCarey18 on October 07, 2014, 11:25:35 AM
Quote from: Ricochet on October 07, 2014, 11:17:35 AM
Quote from: WCarey18 on October 07, 2014, 11:10:00 AM
Quote from: Ricochet on October 07, 2014, 10:37:23 AM
Quote from: WCarey18 on October 07, 2014, 10:36:18 AM
Quote from: Ricochet on October 07, 2014, 10:00:32 AM
CONFIRMED
Levi Greenwood has officially asked North Melbourne for a trade to Collingwood.

Source??
Heraldsun, Trade Radio and AFL Trades page

Seeing a lack of confirmation anywhere...

Herald Sun still reporting that "Collingwood a frontrunner to secure North's Levi Greenwood", no mention on AFL site, @traderadio, and you'd be silly to believe anything Facebook says.

@robbo_heraldsun only said "Suspect Levi greenwood today announces he wants to move to collingwood #dealdone" and thats hardly a confirmation, keyword 'suspect'.

Last I heard he gets back to from holidaying in Bali today, and will meet with his manager to discuss contract options. North raised their offer on the weekend, with even more money and a longer tenure.

http://www.theaustralian.com.au/sport/afl/levi-greenwood-mulls-higher-offer-to-remain-at-north-melbourne/story-fnca0u4y-1227080745157?nk=e7e214da4a0efb66971e2fd13bd034fc

AFL 24/7 ‏@Afltrade  1h1 hour ago
BREAKING: North Melbourne's Levi Greenwood has officially requested a trade to Collingwood! #AFL #AFLTradeWeek #AFLTrades #AFLTrade

2014 AFL Offseason ‏@theafloffseason  1h1 hour ago
CONFIRMED
Levi Greenwood has officially asked North Melbourne for a trade to Collingwood.

Mark Robinson ‏@Robbo_heraldsun  1h1 hour ago
Suspect Levi greenwood today announces he wants to move to collingwood. #dealdone

They're the three mate. key word is #dealdone from Robbo. AFL Trades pages are usually pretty good also

Hashtags mean absolutely zilch. Laughable you even think so. Robbo "suspects" Levi will make announcement, never said "Levi will announce".

Quote from: NoMoreRumorDo we have any confirmation that Levi Greenwood has asked to be traded to Collingwood? Or is this just another rumor....
Quote from: Ben WaterworthJust a whisper, but a very strong one and a lot of people going with it.

http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/trade-whispers-the-latest-news-during-the-afls-trade-period/story-fnp04d70-1227074447591
http://www.scribblelive.com/Event/AFL_trade_period_-_day_2_Oct_7/129264359

Taken from Herald Sun's Trade Whisper page. No confirmation.
Lol Robbo wouldn't even tweet it if it didn't carry some weight mate
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: The_Captain on October 07, 2014, 11:29:16 AM
AHaha must have some validity to it for him to stake his rep on it by tweeting..

But then again.. I'm no fan of Robbo !
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: My Chumps on October 07, 2014, 11:48:31 AM
My thoughts on the Eski deal;
Quote from: My Chumps on October 07, 2014, 12:09:13 AM
The team that beat us by 60 flowering points add an All Australian full back and we lose an All Australian half-back. Now we have to deal with Reece Shaw as the main ball user from half back. flower me.

Bloody hope we sign Patful now.
Losing Mumford, Malceski, Membrey and potentially Sam Reid for Buddy and Tippett. 

Any word on Joel Patful by the way gents? Still a possibility?
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Ricochet on October 07, 2014, 11:52:08 AM
to be fair MC, that team did give you Buddy last year :P

Um haven't heard much on Patful personally except they expect him to head that way.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: WCarey18 on October 07, 2014, 12:03:24 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on October 07, 2014, 11:52:08 AM
to be fair MC, that team did give you Buddy last year :P

Um haven't heard much on Patful personally except they expect him to head that way.

Wouldn't mind seeing a trade like this, though its unlikely since O'Rourke is said to be leaning towards Hawthorn.

Beams to Brisbane, Patfull + Nth's 3rd Round to GWS, O'Rourke to North, Greenwood + pick 5 to Coll.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: SydneyRox on October 07, 2014, 12:03:57 PM
Mumford hurt a lot more than Eski will and Membrey wont even be noticed.

Sam Reid is such an interesting one, he just hasnt taken off, is that due to everyone else in the fwd line being more of a focus? Is it he is still only 23(next year) and started a lot skinnier than most other 'power' forwards.

If we traded him for something a little overs, then I dont think that long term it would be a bad thing. We dont need mids, with Heeney and Mills coming through, Mithcell, Robinson, Perris, Biggs etc all waiting for more time it is a defender we need.

What about a trade that gets us a #1 kpp defender, that I think would suit us better.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Ringo on October 07, 2014, 12:06:07 PM
Patful for Malceski compo pick will get it done.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: The_Captain on October 07, 2014, 12:09:00 PM
Quote from: WCarey18 on October 07, 2014, 12:03:24 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on October 07, 2014, 11:52:08 AM
to be fair MC, that team did give you Buddy last year :P

Um haven't heard much on Patful personally except they expect him to head that way.

Wouldn't mind seeing a trade like this, though its unlikely since O'Rourke is said to be leaning towards Hawthorn.

Beams to Brisbane, Patfull + Nth's 3rd Round to GWS, O'Rourke to North, Greenwood + pick 5 to Coll.

HUh??? so Brisbane give up Patful for Beams.... No chance...
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Jroo on October 07, 2014, 12:10:21 PM
Quote from: My Chumps on October 07, 2014, 11:48:31 AM
My thoughts on the Eski deal;
Quote from: My Chumps on October 07, 2014, 12:09:13 AM
The team that beat us by 60 flowering points add an All Australian full back and we lose an All Australian half-back. Now we have to deal with Reece Shaw as the main ball user from half back. flower me.

Bloody hope we sign Patful now.
Losing Mumford, Malceski, Membrey and potentially Sam Reid for Buddy and Tippett. 

Any word on Joel Patful by the way gents? Still a possibility?
Patful to GWS looking more likely.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Ricochet on October 07, 2014, 12:10:41 PM
Quote from: noto07 on October 07, 2014, 12:09:00 PM
Quote from: WCarey18 on October 07, 2014, 12:03:24 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on October 07, 2014, 11:52:08 AM
to be fair MC, that team did give you Buddy last year :P

Um haven't heard much on Patful personally except they expect him to head that way.

Wouldn't mind seeing a trade like this, though its unlikely since O'Rourke is said to be leaning towards Hawthorn.

Beams to Brisbane, Patfull + Nth's 3rd Round to GWS, O'Rourke to North, Greenwood + pick 5 to Coll.

HUh??? so Brisbane give up Patful for Beams.... No chance...
Parful and N5 man.

Not sure on North giving up Greenwood + their 3rd rounder for O'Rourke though
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: WCarey18 on October 07, 2014, 12:12:34 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on October 07, 2014, 12:10:41 PM
Quote from: noto07 on October 07, 2014, 12:09:00 PM
Quote from: WCarey18 on October 07, 2014, 12:03:24 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on October 07, 2014, 11:52:08 AM
to be fair MC, that team did give you Buddy last year :P

Um haven't heard much on Patful personally except they expect him to head that way.

Wouldn't mind seeing a trade like this, though its unlikely since O'Rourke is said to be leaning towards Hawthorn.

Beams to Brisbane, Patfull + Nth's 3rd Round to GWS, O'Rourke to North, Greenwood + pick 5 to Coll.

HUh??? so Brisbane give up Patful for Beams.... No chance...
Parful and N5 man.

Not sure on North giving up Greenwood + their 3rd rounder for O'Rourke though

If North could get O'Rourke for a straight swap, it'd be great, but I threw in a 3rd rounder to balance it out, as I dont think GWS would take a straight swap for O'Rourke and Patfull.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: WCarey18 on October 07, 2014, 12:15:58 PM
Glenn McFarlane
@MaccaHeraldSun
BREAKING: Levi Greenwood has requested trade to @CollingwoodFC

Damn. Still hope its not true.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: RaisyDaisy on October 07, 2014, 12:16:25 PM
So Greenwood wanting to go to Collingwood. That move is 100% based on $$ right?

North are in way better shape than Collingwood
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: The_Captain on October 07, 2014, 12:17:54 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on October 07, 2014, 12:10:41 PM
Quote from: noto07 on October 07, 2014, 12:09:00 PM
Quote from: WCarey18 on October 07, 2014, 12:03:24 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on October 07, 2014, 11:52:08 AM
to be fair MC, that team did give you Buddy last year :P

Um haven't heard much on Patful personally except they expect him to head that way.

Wouldn't mind seeing a trade like this, though its unlikely since O'Rourke is said to be leaning towards Hawthorn.

Beams to Brisbane, Patfull + Nth's 3rd Round to GWS, O'Rourke to North, Greenwood + pick 5 to Coll.

HUh??? so Brisbane give up Patful for Beams.... No chance...
Parful and N5 man.

Not sure on North giving up Greenwood + their 3rd rounder for O'Rourke though

Well that makes more sense. Was thinking cant be srs!

Orourke is a bit of a risk. Struggled to get games considering he was a pick 2. North will be pretty reluctant there out of all the sides id say
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Ricochet on October 07, 2014, 12:22:17 PM
Greenwood deal expected to be 4 years @ $400k
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: WCarey18 on October 07, 2014, 12:27:38 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on October 07, 2014, 12:22:17 PM
Greenwood deal expected to be 4 years @ $400k

I'll be shocked if thats the case. Its not much more than what Kangas would have offered. Start of the year North offered $280k for two, by this weekend, it would have had to be at least $350k for 3 years.

$50k more and sacrifice the chance at a premiership...good riddance.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: shaker on October 07, 2014, 12:34:08 PM
That's what Greenwood has requested but what will Norf expect for him maybe more than being thrown around , can't understand why Norf has let this happen a mid in his prime and chasing and old player like Waite  :o
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Toga on October 07, 2014, 12:34:53 PM
The AFL live feed just posted an update that Greenwood had officially requested a trade to Collingwood... Now it's gone ???

A lot of speculation about this one!
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: The_Captain on October 07, 2014, 12:36:01 PM
The suspense is killing me!        :P
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Bill Manspeaker on October 07, 2014, 12:37:09 PM
Pickers confirmed it on trade radio
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: LF on October 07, 2014, 12:37:19 PM
Quote from: Toga on October 07, 2014, 12:34:53 PM
The AFL live feed just posted an update that Greenwood had officially requested a trade to Collingwood... Now it's gone ???

A lot of speculation about this one!

Its still there
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Toga on October 07, 2014, 12:37:26 PM
And it's back up again... I guess if the AFL are reporting it, it must be official? :P

12.15pm: CONFIRMED: Levi Greenwood requests trade to Collingwood

Wow, that's huge. Finished 3rd in North's best and fairest this year with an outstanding season. Big blow to a side building a list they hope will be in the mix for a flag next  year
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Ricochet on October 07, 2014, 12:39:19 PM
I guess if its one area that North have a lot of depth, its their mids. They'd be backing Basti to step back up to that level he showed last year and they'll get a full season from Swallow.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: The_Captain on October 07, 2014, 12:42:08 PM
Yeah, if they can get something good for him it will be no major loss for North.. Their mids are incredible.

Swallow, Ziebell, Wells, Harvey, Gibson, Cunnington, Bastinac.

They are just lacking a real good full forward to help petrie out of being a real good top 4 side! I spose they are thinking Waite could be a short term solution?
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: WCarey18 on October 07, 2014, 12:45:29 PM
Quote from: noto07 on October 07, 2014, 12:42:08 PM
Yeah, if they can get something good for him it will be no major loss for North.. Their mids are incredible.

Swallow, Ziebell, Wells, Harvey, Gibson, Cunnington, Bastinac.

They are just lacking a real good full forward to help petrie out of being a real good top 4 side! I spose they are thinking Waite could be a short term solution?

Lets not forget Anthony. :P
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Mr.Craig on October 07, 2014, 12:48:56 PM
Maybe a lesson learned that if Rico says something is confirmed, it's probably confirmed...
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: SydneyRox on October 07, 2014, 12:49:32 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on October 07, 2014, 12:22:17 PM
Greenwood deal expected to be 4 years @ $400k

Isnt that the same numbers as Higgins?

I know who I would rather pay for!
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Ricochet on October 07, 2014, 12:57:55 PM
Jeff Garlett requesting a trade to Melbourne
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Spite on October 07, 2014, 01:09:41 PM
Quote from: Mr.Craig on October 07, 2014, 12:48:56 PM
Maybe a lesson learned that if Rico says something is confirmed, it's probably confirmed...
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Vinny on October 07, 2014, 01:16:21 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on October 07, 2014, 12:57:55 PM
Jeff Garlett requesting a trade to Melbourne
:'(
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Spite on October 07, 2014, 01:17:08 PM
Quote from: WCarey18 on October 07, 2014, 12:27:38 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on October 07, 2014, 12:22:17 PM
Greenwood deal expected to be 4 years @ $400k

I'll be shocked if thats the case. Its not much more than what Kangas would have offered. Start of the year North offered $280k for two, by this weekend, it would have had to be at least $350k for 3 years.

$50k more and sacrifice the chance at a premiership...good riddance.

If you're shocked by that, wait until you see what you get for him ;)

Pick 30-34 (depends on Harry lumumba) pick coming your way!  :-X
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Purple 77 on October 07, 2014, 01:21:33 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on October 07, 2014, 12:57:55 PM
Jeff Garlett requesting a trade to Melbourne

What???!!
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: SydneyRox on October 07, 2014, 01:22:28 PM
Just got my first RT from @traderadio 8)
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Purple 77 on October 07, 2014, 01:22:59 PM
Quote from: Purple 77 on October 07, 2014, 01:21:33 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on October 07, 2014, 12:57:55 PM
Jeff Garlett requesting a trade to Melbourne

What???!!

Take away anything from JKH and I'll come for you Garlett!


But I don't hate the idea of him coming over... as long as it is for a 4th rounder.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Purple 77 on October 07, 2014, 01:24:27 PM
Oh bloody hell I don't need another melbourne player in my WXVs with Garlett already there lol
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: My Chumps on October 07, 2014, 01:31:02 PM
Quote from: Purple 77 on October 07, 2014, 01:24:27 PM
Oh bloody hell I don't need another melbourne player in my WXVs with Garlett already there lol
We'll take em :P

Honestly though Garlett's got a lot of potential. Only issue is they've already got JKH, Salem and Barry who can play that small forwards role.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: GoLions on October 07, 2014, 01:36:34 PM
Justin Leppitsch @JLeppitsch  14h 14 hours ago
@david41779452 reddo going nowhere
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: JBs-Hawks on October 07, 2014, 01:44:00 PM
Quote from: WCarey18 on October 07, 2014, 12:27:38 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on October 07, 2014, 12:22:17 PM
Greenwood deal expected to be 4 years @ $400k

I'll be shocked if thats the case. Its not much more than what Kangas would have offered. Start of the year North offered $280k for two, by this weekend, it would have had to be at least $350k for 3 years.

$50k more and sacrifice the chance at a premiership...good riddance.

Kangas arent a chance at a premiership lol.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Bill Manspeaker on October 07, 2014, 01:50:52 PM
Quote from: JBs-Hawks on October 07, 2014, 01:44:00 PM
Quote from: WCarey18 on October 07, 2014, 12:27:38 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on October 07, 2014, 12:22:17 PM
Greenwood deal expected to be 4 years @ $400k

I'll be shocked if thats the case. Its not much more than what Kangas would have offered. Start of the year North offered $280k for two, by this weekend, it would have had to be at least $350k for 3 years.

$50k more and sacrifice the chance at a premiership...good riddance.

Kangas arent a chance at a premiership lol.

I reckon they're a big chance JB
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Mr.Craig on October 07, 2014, 02:02:29 PM
Well, a bigger chance than Collingwood that's for sure.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Purple 77 on October 07, 2014, 02:07:42 PM
Quote from: My Chumps on October 07, 2014, 01:31:02 PM
Quote from: Purple 77 on October 07, 2014, 01:24:27 PM
Oh bloody hell I don't need another melbourne player in my WXVs with Garlett already there lol
We'll take em :P

Honestly though Garlett's got a lot of potential. Only issue is they've already got JKH, Salem and Barry who can play that small forwards role.

Kent too. I personally don't rate Barry, don't even think he can even play that role IMO. He only got in the senior side for being a tagger, yet Melbourne didn't play him as a one  ???


I also think the ultimate goal for Salem is to play in the midfield, but yeah I  think there are other clubs that could use him more than us
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Rusty00 on October 07, 2014, 02:15:46 PM
Quote from: Purple 77 on October 07, 2014, 02:07:42 PM
........... but yeah I  think there are other clubs that could use him more than us
Like Carlton :-X
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Vinny on October 07, 2014, 02:27:34 PM
Quote from: Rusty00 on October 07, 2014, 02:15:46 PM
Quote from: Purple 77 on October 07, 2014, 02:07:42 PM
........... but yeah I  think there are other clubs that could use him more than us
Like Carlton :-X
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Ricochet on October 07, 2014, 02:46:21 PM
Pies now looking at Treloar and GWS if Brissie can't come to the table with an appropriate Beams deal
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Purple 77 on October 07, 2014, 02:47:01 PM
If Carlton needed him they would have been playing him  :P he didn't get injured or anything this year

Must have rubbed Malthouse the wrong way?
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: WCarey18 on October 07, 2014, 02:48:35 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on October 07, 2014, 02:46:21 PM
Pies now looking at Treloar and GWS if Brissie can't come to the table with an appropriate Beams deal

@barrettdamian: Something @CollingwoodFC is very keen on, is the possibility of @GWS_Giants Adam Treloar being part of the Beams deal

@barrettdamian: Collingwood has an idea, if Brisbane don't offer more than pick 5, they're going to explore options for Beams

Best to always include sources.  :P
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Ricochet on October 07, 2014, 02:56:09 PM
Meh its only rumour and talk so nothing official.


If Pies can land Treloar and Greenwood for Beams and Lumumba they have done very well
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: WCarey18 on October 07, 2014, 02:59:26 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on October 07, 2014, 02:56:09 PM
Meh its only rumour and talk so nothing official.

If Pies can land Treloar and Greenwood for Beams and Lumumba they have done very well

Agreed. North were front runners bringing Waite and Higgins for nothing, but have taken a massive step back losing Greenwood.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: strikes91 on October 07, 2014, 03:27:54 PM
Can't see GWS trading Treloar.

and why do the pies want Pick 5 and Hanley but just a straight swap for treloar, why not pick 4 and treloar like they've been pushing brisbane
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Bill Manspeaker on October 07, 2014, 03:35:41 PM
what's the use of Beams leaving if he doesn't get to his prefered destination
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: WCarey18 on October 07, 2014, 03:37:32 PM
Quote from: brad on October 07, 2014, 03:35:41 PM
what's the use of Beams leaving if he doesn't get to his prefered destination

Has said he'd like to go to Brisbane all along, but if he can't get there (due to trade loggerheads), he'd have to settle for GWS, and I'm sure they'd gladly have him.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: SydneyRox on October 07, 2014, 03:38:22 PM
Beams to Swans for Reid and Membrey 8)
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Jay on October 07, 2014, 03:41:46 PM
Quote from: WCarey18 on October 07, 2014, 03:37:32 PM
Quote from: brad on October 07, 2014, 03:35:41 PM
what's the use of Beams leaving if he doesn't get to his prefered destination

Has said he'd like to go to Brisbane all along, but if he can't get there (due to trade loggerheads), he'd have to settle for GWS, and I'm sure they'd gladly have him.
You know Western Sydney isn't in Queensland, right? :P
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: elephants on October 07, 2014, 03:43:50 PM
Quote from: Jayman on October 07, 2014, 03:41:46 PM
Quote from: WCarey18 on October 07, 2014, 03:37:32 PM
Quote from: brad on October 07, 2014, 03:35:41 PM
what's the use of Beams leaving if he doesn't get to his prefered destination

Has said he'd like to go to Brisbane all along, but if he can't get there (due to trade loggerheads), he'd have to settle for GWS, and I'm sure they'd gladly have him.
You know Western Sydney isn't in Queensland, right? :P

Its closer than Vic though? #clutchingatstraws :P
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: WCarey18 on October 07, 2014, 03:45:29 PM
Well we all love a trade discussion, so how about this one then. Involves Beams, Greenwood and now Treloar.

Brisbane gives: Pick 5 and Patfull
Brisbane receives: Beams

Collingwood gives: Beams and Pick 30
Collingwood receives: Treloar and Greenwood

GWS gives: Treloar and O'Rourke
GWS receives: Patfull and Picks 5, 30 and 54

Norf gives: Greenwood and Pick 54
Norf recieves: O'Rourke.

Quote from: Jayman on October 07, 2014, 03:41:46 PM
Quote from: WCarey18 on October 07, 2014, 03:37:32 PM
Quote from: brad on October 07, 2014, 03:35:41 PM
what's the use of Beams leaving if he doesn't get to his prefered destination

Has said he'd like to go to Brisbane all along, but if he can't get there (due to trade loggerheads), he'd have to settle for GWS, and I'm sure they'd gladly have him.
You know Western Sydney isn't in Queensland, right? :P

*facepalm* Yes, I did. But for a moment there, in between the exam study, GWS = Greater Western Suburbs of Brisbane.  ::)
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Pkbaldy on October 07, 2014, 03:48:12 PM
Quote from: WCarey18 on October 07, 2014, 03:45:29 PM
Well we all love a trade discussion, so how about this one then. Involves Beams, Greenwood and now Treloar.

Brisbane gives: Pick 5 and Patfull
Brisbane receives: Beams

Collingwood gives: Beams and Pick 30
Collingwood receives: Treloar and Greenwood

GWS gives: Treloar and O'Rourke
GWS receives: Patfull and Picks 5, 30 and 54

Norf gives: Greenwood and Pick 54
Norf recieves: O'Rourke.

Quote from: Jayman on October 07, 2014, 03:41:46 PM
Quote from: WCarey18 on October 07, 2014, 03:37:32 PM
Quote from: brad on October 07, 2014, 03:35:41 PM
what's the use of Beams leaving if he doesn't get to his prefered destination

Has said he'd like to go to Brisbane all along, but if he can't get there (due to trade loggerheads), he'd have to settle for GWS, and I'm sure they'd gladly have him.
You know Western Sydney isn't in Queensland, right? :P

*facepalm* Yes, I did. But for a moment there, in between the exam study, GWS = Greater Western Suburbs of Brisbane.  ::)

No... Some of it isn't to bad. But Treloar isn't going to go anywhere buddy.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: T Dog on October 07, 2014, 03:49:43 PM
C'mon...Stef Martin and pick 5 to the pies....C'mon   ;D
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Ricochet on October 07, 2014, 04:10:35 PM
(http://i58.tinypic.com/2ds0fuv.png)

hahaha
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Nails on October 07, 2014, 04:34:41 PM
GWS gives: Treloar and O'Rourke
GWS receives: Patfull and Picks 5, 30 and 54

That'd be the worst trade in AFL history.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: WCarey18 on October 07, 2014, 04:43:55 PM
Quote from: Nails on October 07, 2014, 04:34:41 PM
GWS gives: Treloar and O'Rourke
GWS receives: Patfull and Picks 5, 30 and 54

That'd be the worst trade in AFL history.

I can think of worse. Jordan McMahon for pick 19.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Ricochet on October 07, 2014, 04:46:22 PM
Jon Ralph reporting that Jon O'Rourke has told Hawthorn they are his preferred home
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: roo boys! on October 07, 2014, 04:49:13 PM
Leaving a club that's shown years worth of faith in you, and when you finally come good, go on the hunt for more coin thinking you're a topline midfielder. Good riddance Greenwood!

Two ways to look at this, either North did the right thing by not paying overs for a player who's had one good season, ensuring the rest of the team stayed together, or North flowered up big time recruiting the two free agents and not having enough $$ left over to pay Greenwood.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but a lot of great teams of recent years have taken paycuts in order to keep their whole team together, is that right? Geelong after Ablett left springs to mind. Maybe these are the sort of players we need at North anyway, not money hungry blokes.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: strikes91 on October 07, 2014, 04:49:32 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on October 07, 2014, 04:46:22 PM
Jon Ralph reporting that Jon O'Rourke has told Hawthorn they are his preferred home

What will Hawthorn hand over ?
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Bill Manspeaker on October 07, 2014, 04:50:08 PM
Quote from: WCarey18 on October 07, 2014, 04:43:55 PM
Quote from: Nails on October 07, 2014, 04:34:41 PM
GWS gives: Treloar and O'Rourke
GWS receives: Patfull and Picks 5, 30 and 54

That'd be the worst trade in AFL history.

I can think of worse. Jordan McMahon for pick 19.
Raph Clarke for pick 8
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: WCarey18 on October 07, 2014, 04:59:02 PM
Quote from: roo boys! on October 07, 2014, 04:49:13 PM
Leaving a club that's shown years worth of faith in you, and when you finally come good, go on the hunt for more coin thinking you're a topline midfielder. Good riddance Greenwood!

Two ways to look at this, either North did the right thing by not paying overs for a player who's had one good season, ensuring the rest of the team stayed together, or North flowered up big time recruiting the two free agents and not having enough $$ left over to pay Greenwood.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but a lot of great teams of recent years have taken paycuts in order to keep their whole team together, is that right? Geelong after Ablett left springs to mind. Maybe these are the sort of players we need at North anyway, not money hungry blokes.

I reckon its a bit of both.

According to Liam Pickering, the latest contract offer from North was "too little, too late" which suggests that North had focused their attention on securing Higgins and Waite over Greenwood.

Apparently the biggest reason he wants to go to Collingwood is because they offered him a longer contract = more money and stability. Choosing stability isn't a bad thing, but wow, its an exceptional move considering how close we are to a possible flag and how long we've stood beside him.

Bad North for not giving him a reasonable deal, Bad Greenwood for walking out like this.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: shaker on October 07, 2014, 05:02:58 PM
Don't know what Norf are paying Waite and Higgins but if it was more than they offered Greenwood I think they flowered up
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Ricochet on October 07, 2014, 05:06:29 PM
I don't think North can start to think or get upset that Waite + Higgins pushed Greenwood out. Yes Greenwood had a ripper year but in terms of structure Waite will add so much more up fwd and Higgins will add that clean outside use. Plus the depth of the North mids should cover the loss of Greenwood.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Rusty00 on October 07, 2014, 05:09:11 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on October 07, 2014, 05:06:29 PM
I don't think North can start to think or get upset that Waite + Higgins pushed Greenwood out. Yes Greenwood had a ripper year but in terms of structure Waite will add so much more up fwd and Higgins will add that clean outside use. Plus the depth of the North mids should cover the loss of Greenwood.
Agree. On face value it appears North stuffed it, but if Greenwood was asking overs based on 1 good year, then they made the right call.

Now they can use that 1 good year in their favour by getting a good deal for him ;)
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: WCarey18 on October 07, 2014, 05:13:35 PM
Quote from: shaker on October 07, 2014, 05:02:58 PM
Don't know what Norf are paying Waite and Higgins but if it was more than they offered Greenwood I think they flowered up

Heard Higgins is on $400k over 3 years, I think. What the should have offered Greenwood.  ::)

Quote from: Ricochet on October 07, 2014, 05:06:29 PM
I don't think North can start to think or get upset that Waite + Higgins pushed Greenwood out. Yes Greenwood had a ripper year but in terms of structure Waite will add so much more up fwd and Higgins will add that clean outside use. Plus the depth of the North mids should cover the loss of Greenwood.

I suppose we can be sad until the cows come home...but its probably the best way to look at it. Though its a big risk bringing in two injury-prone players, let alone a 30yo old one. Then loosing a decent midfielder as a result.

Hopefully we can snag someone for Greenwood.

Quote from: Rusty00 on October 07, 2014, 05:09:11 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on October 07, 2014, 05:06:29 PM
I don't think North can start to think or get upset that Waite + Higgins pushed Greenwood out. Yes Greenwood had a ripper year but in terms of structure Waite will add so much more up fwd and Higgins will add that clean outside use. Plus the depth of the North mids should cover the loss of Greenwood.
Agree. On face value it appears North stuffed it, but if Greenwood was asking overs based on 1 good year, then they made the right call.

Now they can use that 1 good year in their favour by getting a good deal for him ;)

Wasn't asking overs. North offered him $280k for two years at the start of the season, then after his explosive season, Collingwood nabbed him for $400k for 4 years. About right price, and surprised North couldn't match it. Very surprised.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: roo boys! on October 07, 2014, 05:15:49 PM
Quote from: WCarey18 on October 07, 2014, 04:59:02 PM
Quote from: roo boys! on October 07, 2014, 04:49:13 PM
Leaving a club that's shown years worth of faith in you, and when you finally come good, go on the hunt for more coin thinking you're a topline midfielder. Good riddance Greenwood!

Two ways to look at this, either North did the right thing by not paying overs for a player who's had one good season, ensuring the rest of the team stayed together, or North flowered up big time recruiting the two free agents and not having enough $$ left over to pay Greenwood.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but a lot of great teams of recent years have taken paycuts in order to keep their whole team together, is that right? Geelong after Ablett left springs to mind. Maybe these are the sort of players we need at North anyway, not money hungry blokes.

I reckon its a bit of both.

According to Liam Pickering, the latest contract offer from North was "too little, too late" which suggests that North had focused their attention on securing Higgins and Waite over Greenwood.

Apparently the biggest reason he wants to go to Collingwood is because they offered him a longer contract = more money and stability. Choosing stability isn't a bad thing, but wow, its an exceptional move considering how close we are to a possible flag and how long we've stood beside him.

Bad North for not giving him a reasonable deal, Bad Greenwood for walking out like this.
Yeah fair enough mate.

A 3 year deal compared to a 4 year deal for a player his age shouldn't really be enough to move from a top 4 finisher to a side that finished outside the 8 should it?

I'm going to go ahead and blame Greenwood. But as Rico says, plenty of depth at the club to replace him with, one area that North have really built over the last few years more than any is the midfield. With Waite up forward this potentially cuts Ziebell's forward time right back down again and we see him move into the contested role he used to play, and Bastinac to take the next step in the middle.

Would still like to see O'Rourke in a North jumper too but looking more and more likely he's headed to the Hawks
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Cambo on October 07, 2014, 05:31:23 PM
Quote from: JBs-Hawks on October 07, 2014, 01:44:00 PM
Quote from: WCarey18 on October 07, 2014, 12:27:38 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on October 07, 2014, 12:22:17 PM
Greenwood deal expected to be 4 years @ $400k

I'll be shocked if thats the case. Its not much more than what Kangas would have offered. Start of the year North offered $280k for two, by this weekend, it would have had to be at least $350k for 3 years.

$50k more and sacrifice the chance at a premiership...good riddance.

Kangas arent a chance at a premiership lol.

Good to see im not the only one laughing at all these Kanga's fan's that think they are a chance at a Premiership  ;D ;D ;D
Good team maybe but genuine chance...............Dreaming............ :o
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: WCarey18 on October 07, 2014, 05:46:48 PM
Quote from: roo boys! on October 07, 2014, 05:15:49 PM
Quote from: WCarey18 on October 07, 2014, 04:59:02 PM
Quote from: roo boys! on October 07, 2014, 04:49:13 PM
Leaving a club that's shown years worth of faith in you, and when you finally come good, go on the hunt for more coin thinking you're a topline midfielder. Good riddance Greenwood!

Two ways to look at this, either North did the right thing by not paying overs for a player who's had one good season, ensuring the rest of the team stayed together, or North flowered up big time recruiting the two free agents and not having enough $$ left over to pay Greenwood.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but a lot of great teams of recent years have taken paycuts in order to keep their whole team together, is that right? Geelong after Ablett left springs to mind. Maybe these are the sort of players we need at North anyway, not money hungry blokes.

I reckon its a bit of both.

According to Liam Pickering, the latest contract offer from North was "too little, too late" which suggests that North had focused their attention on securing Higgins and Waite over Greenwood.

Apparently the biggest reason he wants to go to Collingwood is because they offered him a longer contract = more money and stability. Choosing stability isn't a bad thing, but wow, its an exceptional move considering how close we are to a possible flag and how long we've stood beside him.

Bad North for not giving him a reasonable deal, Bad Greenwood for walking out like this.
Yeah fair enough mate.

A 3 year deal compared to a 4 year deal for a player his age shouldn't really be enough to move from a top 4 finisher to a side that finished outside the 8 should it?

I'm going to go ahead and blame Greenwood. But as Rico says, plenty of depth at the club to replace him with, one area that North have really built over the last few years more than any is the midfield. With Waite up forward this potentially cuts Ziebell's forward time right back down again and we see him move into the contested role he used to play, and Bastinac to take the next step in the middle.

Would still like to see O'Rourke in a North jumper too but looking more and more likely he's headed to the Hawks

Yeah, our midfield depth is definitely great enough to cover the loss, but I'd still like North to explore the option of replacing him. Of all the rumors going there are very few midfielders on offer...Robinson, Varcoe and Blease are the only two that spring to mind after O'Rourke.  :-X

As mentioned in my Best 22 post in the Norf section our midfield depth currently looks like:

Andrew Swallow, Daniel Wells, Nick Dal Santo, Jack Ziebell, Ben Cunnington, Sam Gibson, Ryan Bastinac, Liam Anthony, Kayne Turner, Jamie MacMillan, Ben Jacobs, Trent Dumont, Brad McKenzie, Timothy McGuiness

Of those, Swallow, Wells, Dal Santo, Ziebell, Cunnington, Gibson, Turner are on the field. After that you have Bastinac, MacMillan, Jacobs and Dumont (who made great strides in the VFL in his debut year) who will play throughout the year. I think we will be right, but I'm greedy and another one would be nice.  :P
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Tominator on October 07, 2014, 06:11:49 PM
To the delight of Hawthorn and St Kilda (amongst others), O'Rourke left GWS in search of greater opportunities. He chose Hawthorn.

Box Hill will be ecstatic.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: WCarey18 on October 07, 2014, 06:13:02 PM
Quote from: Tominator on October 07, 2014, 06:11:49 PM
To the delight of Hawthorn and St Kilda (amongst others), O'Rourke left GWS in search of greater opportunities. He chose Hawthorn.

The Box Hill Hawks will be absolutely ecstatic.

This. Hard to see O'Rourke pushing his way into the 22 straightaway. Strange choice if he is looking for "greater opportunities".
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: SydneyRox on October 07, 2014, 06:19:23 PM
Quote from: WCarey18 on October 07, 2014, 06:13:02 PM
Quote from: Tominator on October 07, 2014, 06:11:49 PM
To the delight of Hawthorn and St Kilda (amongst others), O'Rourke left GWS in search of greater opportunities. He chose Hawthorn.

The Box Hill Hawks will be absolutely ecstatic.

This. Hard to see O'Rourke pushing his way into the 22 straightaway. Strange choice if he is looking for "greater opportunities".

LOL - straight away? He couldnt get a regular game with the Giants, Hawks have arguably the strongest midfield in the comp after they smashed what was thought to be the best in the comp in the GF

If he wanted more games, should have chosen the saints, would have stood a fighting chance!
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Jroo on October 07, 2014, 06:24:33 PM
Second rounder for Eski. Seems fair.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Toga on October 07, 2014, 06:25:27 PM
Yeah, sounds about right to me
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: SydneyRox on October 07, 2014, 06:25:57 PM
Quote from: JROO8 on October 07, 2014, 06:24:33 PM
Second rounder for Eski. Seems fair.

Happier with that than 3rd round. The number (approx 40) is unders but the round 1 @ 22 odd would be too high
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Noz on October 07, 2014, 06:35:11 PM
Sydney shouldnt get a compensation pick for Malceski
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: SydneyRox on October 07, 2014, 06:49:06 PM
Quote from: Noz on October 07, 2014, 06:35:11 PM
Sydney shouldnt get a compensation pick for Malceski

Why not?? 3 years @ 500k is a longer and more expensive deal than Waite got and only $100k behind the overall money that Higgins left for?

Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Mr.Craig on October 07, 2014, 07:15:16 PM
Who comes into the Sydney line up for Mal?
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Noz on October 07, 2014, 07:36:30 PM
Quote from: SydneyRox on October 07, 2014, 06:49:06 PM
Quote from: Noz on October 07, 2014, 06:35:11 PM
Sydney shouldnt get a compensation pick for Malceski

Why not?? 3 years @ 500k is a longer and more expensive deal than Waite got and only $100k behind the overall money that Higgins left for?

Because in reality he was an unrestricted free agent, Really if an unrestricted player leaves no matter the cost or contract length a compensation pick shouldnt work.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Big Mac on October 07, 2014, 07:39:31 PM
Quote from: Noz on October 07, 2014, 07:36:30 PM
Quote from: SydneyRox on October 07, 2014, 06:49:06 PM
Quote from: Noz on October 07, 2014, 06:35:11 PM
Sydney shouldnt get a compensation pick for Malceski

Why not?? 3 years @ 500k is a longer and more expensive deal than Waite got and only $100k behind the overall money that Higgins left for?

Because in reality he was an unrestricted free agent, Really if an unrestricted player leaves no matter the cost or contract length a compensation pick shouldnt work.

The Unrestricted and Restricted tags are only based on what the player was paid in the final year of their contract - So someone can be on 1mil a year but if their contract is heavily front-loaded they can still qualify for Unrestricted free agency
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: kilbluff1985 on October 07, 2014, 07:41:49 PM
Manager of Essendon midfielder Ben Howlett, Jason Doven says Howlett is now likely to stay at the club after coach James Hird survived the sack from yesterday's board meeting.
Doven says that Howlett was considering his options had Hird been sacked, however Howlett has spoken to Hird in the last 24 hours and looks likely to remain at the club.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Mailman the 2nd on October 07, 2014, 07:43:14 PM
Quote from: Noz on October 07, 2014, 07:36:30 PM
Quote from: SydneyRox on October 07, 2014, 06:49:06 PM
Quote from: Noz on October 07, 2014, 06:35:11 PM
Sydney shouldnt get a compensation pick for Malceski

Why not?? 3 years @ 500k is a longer and more expensive deal than Waite got and only $100k behind the overall money that Higgins left for?

Because in reality he was an unrestricted free agent, Really if an unrestricted player leaves no matter the cost or contract length a compensation pick shouldnt work.

That makes 0 sense.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: GoLions on October 07, 2014, 07:51:51 PM
(https://scontent-b-hkg.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xpa1/v/t1.0-9/1229905_330987497080580_8981988214393324396_n.jpg?oh=b3715bbff208e31757e4fc16d553c0e1&oe=54C9B776)

ha
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Mat0369 on October 07, 2014, 08:04:48 PM
Quote from: Mr.Craig on October 07, 2014, 07:15:16 PM
Who comes into the Sydney line up for Mal?

Probably Laidler or Jones. Rohan and Shaw become the rebound defenders while Laidler can play 3rd tall with Rampe. Jones played a bit off half back in the games he got. Johnson would have been the one you think but having another reco you think it would be one of Laids or Jones. The other option is McVeigh goes to half back and Tom Mitchell moves into the midfield rotation.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Nige on October 07, 2014, 08:08:29 PM
Quote from: Mat0369 on October 07, 2014, 08:04:48 PM
Quote from: Mr.Craig on October 07, 2014, 07:15:16 PM
Who comes into the Sydney line up for Mal?

Probably Laidler or Jones. Rohan and Shaw become the rebound defenders while Laidler can play 3rd tall with Rampe. Jones played a bit off half back in the games he got. Johnson would have been the one you think but having another reco you think it would be one of Laids or Jones. The other option is McVeigh goes to half back and Tom Mitchell moves into the midfield rotation.
My money is on Laidler. Played most games even with Eski in the side and just seems the logical replacement.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: WCarey18 on October 07, 2014, 08:23:52 PM
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on October 07, 2014, 07:41:49 PM
Manager of Essendon midfielder Ben Howlett, Jason Doven says Howlett is now likely to stay at the club after coach James Hird survived the sack from yesterday's board meeting.
Doven says that Howlett was considering his options had Hird been sacked, however Howlett has spoken to Hird in the last 24 hours and looks likely to remain at the club.

James Hird has also today said that Paddy Ryder will remain at Essendon if a trade cant be brokered.

Is it just me or is he truly delusional? Now he's going to tell his players they can't leave?  ::) Hope Ryder explores his 'get-out' clause, takes Essendon to court, wins, and leaves for nothing.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Dudge on October 07, 2014, 09:01:59 PM
Can't understand for the life of me, why you would want a player, that doesn't want to even be there. Come-on James, surely you're better than that
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: JBs-Hawks on October 07, 2014, 09:05:06 PM
Quote from: Dudge on October 07, 2014, 09:01:59 PM
Can't understand for the life of me, why you would want a player, that doesn't want to even be there. Come-on James, surely you're better than that

Then offer up a fair trade. Dont just try get him for chips  because he wants to play for you. Remember Nick Stevens wanting to goto Collingwood  ;)
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: SydneyRox on October 07, 2014, 09:18:55 PM
Quote from: Mat0369 on October 07, 2014, 08:04:48 PM
Quote from: Mr.Craig on October 07, 2014, 07:15:16 PM
Who comes into the Sydney line up for Mal?

Probably Laidler or Jones. Rohan and Shaw become the rebound defenders while Laidler can play 3rd tall with Rampe. Jones played a bit off half back in the games he got. Johnson would have been the one you think but having another reco you think it would be one of Laids or Jones. The other option is McVeigh goes to half back and Tom Mitchell moves into the midfield rotation.

i prefer the mcveigh option. an extra mid into the rotation and mcveigh who is one of our best users putting the ball where it needs 5o go.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Big Mac on October 07, 2014, 09:21:31 PM
Quote from: Tominator on October 07, 2014, 09:16:36 PM
Just some food for thought.. Do you guys see this as a good or bad thing for the game?

It certainly raises questions about what the purpose of free agency is.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Tominator on October 07, 2014, 09:26:38 PM
Just a little something about the increased power players have with trades, in the wake of free agency.. Made my own thread cos I didn't want this to get off-topic

What do you guys think? Is it good or bad for the game?

http://forum.fanfooty.com.au/index.php/topic,99240.0.html
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: SydneyRox on October 07, 2014, 09:27:28 PM
Quote from: Big  Mac on October 07, 2014, 09:21:31 PM
Quote from: Tominator on October 07, 2014, 09:16:36 PM
Just some food for thought.. Do you guys see this as a good or bad thing for the game?

It certainly raises questions about what the purpose of free agency is.

i do yhink the next step is no copensation
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Spite on October 07, 2014, 09:31:45 PM
Quote from: JBs-Hawks on October 07, 2014, 09:05:06 PM
Quote from: Dudge on October 07, 2014, 09:01:59 PM
Can't understand for the life of me, why you would want a player, that doesn't want to even be there. Come-on James, surely you're better than that

Then offer up a fair trade. Dont just try get him for chips  because he wants to play for you. Remember Nick Stevens wanting to goto Collingwood  ;)

Ha! We offered Didak for him and they rejected it! So glad that happened!
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: nrich102 on October 07, 2014, 10:07:25 PM
@theafloffseason: Carlton proposed including Mitch Robinson in a trade with the Western Bulldogs for Liam Jones and Jason Tutt but... http://t.co/VdjdhVB5BA

Not really sure what this is based off, but interesting none the less..
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Rusty00 on October 07, 2014, 10:08:00 PM
Quote from: Spite on October 07, 2014, 09:31:45 PM
Quote from: JBs-Hawks on October 07, 2014, 09:05:06 PM
Quote from: Dudge on October 07, 2014, 09:01:59 PM
Can't understand for the life of me, why you would want a player, that doesn't want to even be there. Come-on James, surely you're better than that

Then offer up a fair trade. Dont just try get him for chips  because he wants to play for you. Remember Nick Stevens wanting to goto Collingwood  ;)

Ha! We offered Didak for him and they rejected it! So glad that happened!
Pretty sure it was the other way round, Port asked for Didak and you guys refused. Worked out well for you in the end though ;)
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: roo boys! on October 07, 2014, 10:22:11 PM
Quote from: nrich102 on October 07, 2014, 10:07:25 PM
@theafloffseason: Carlton proposed including Mitch Robinson in a trade with the Western Bulldogs for Liam Jones and Jason Tutt but... http://t.co/VdjdhVB5BA

Not really sure what this is based off, but interesting none the less..
Would like it if Robbo found a club...for WXV purposes only.

Starting to get a bit concerned  :-\
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Ricochet on October 07, 2014, 10:26:11 PM
http://www.foxsports.com.au/afl/afl-premiership/elliott-kavanagh-joins-paddy-ryder-jason-winderlich-in-asking-for-trade-from-essendon/story-e6frf3e3-1227083071279?from=public_rss&utm_medium=twitter&utm_source=twitterfeed

ESSENDON midfielder Elliott Kavanagh is the latest Bomber to request a trade.

The Herald Sun reveal the wingman wants to change clubs after growing frustrated by a lack of senior opportunities under coach Mark Thompson this year

Ruckman Paddy Ryder and speedster Jason Winderlich have both quit the club, while Ben Howlett's future hinges on the reappointment of coach James Hird.

However, lawyer Chris Pollard said Essendon had strong grounds to contest Ryder's move to Port Adelaide in court, as the Bombers yesterday continued their hard line stance in trade talks.

Pollard said the Bombers could also take action against Port for inducing a breach of contract, saying "clearly he (Ryder) has been wined and dined by Port Adelaide".
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: kilbluff1985 on October 07, 2014, 10:28:19 PM
not bothered about Kavanagh has not really shown any of the potential we thought he had
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Mat0369 on October 07, 2014, 10:33:39 PM
Ryder said he was going to Brisbane before Port jumped in the race. Was he winded and dined to go to the Lions as well? The fact is they can contest the clause, but the players association will be all over it and it stands due to the court cases. Essendon need new lawyers
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: kilbluff1985 on October 07, 2014, 10:35:49 PM
Quote from: Mat0369 on October 07, 2014, 10:33:39 PM
Ryder said he was going to Brisbane before Port jumped in the race. Was he winded and dined to go to the Lions as well? The fact is they can contest the clause, but the players association will be all over it and it stands due to the court cases. Essendon need new lawyers

the clause is total bs

if he was so upset about the 2012 supplements program he wouldn't have signed a new deal this year that's a pretty good argument imo
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: SydneyRox on October 07, 2014, 10:36:29 PM
Quote from: roo boys! on October 07, 2014, 10:22:11 PM
Quote from: nrich102 on October 07, 2014, 10:07:25 PM
@theafloffseason: Carlton proposed including Mitch Robinson in a trade with the Western Bulldogs for Liam Jones and Jason Tutt but... http://t.co/VdjdhVB5BA

Not really sure what this is based off, but interesting none the less..
Would like it if Robbo found a club...for WXV purposes only.

Starting to get a bit concerned  :-\

no doubt he will go somewhere, just wont be a priority for anyone

Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Ricochet on October 07, 2014, 10:39:10 PM
http://www.smh.com.au/afl/afl-news/varcoe-may-join-collingwood-in-threeway-deal-20141007-10rld6.html

Geelong premiership player Travis Varcoe could become a Collingwood player, by becoming the missing link in a three-way trade with Melbourne and Geelong involving Heritier Lumumba and Mitch Clark
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: LF on October 07, 2014, 10:39:42 PM
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on October 07, 2014, 10:35:49 PM
Quote from: Mat0369 on October 07, 2014, 10:33:39 PM
Ryder said he was going to Brisbane before Port jumped in the race. Was he winded and dined to go to the Lions as well? The fact is they can contest the clause, but the players association will be all over it and it stands due to the court cases. Essendon need new lawyers

the clause is total bs

if he was so upset about the 2012 supplements program he wouldn't have signed a new deal this year that's a pretty good argument imo

Obviously didn`t know prior to signing that the supplements could harm his unborn child
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: kilbluff1985 on October 07, 2014, 10:41:13 PM
Quote from: LF on October 07, 2014, 10:39:42 PM
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on October 07, 2014, 10:35:49 PM
Quote from: Mat0369 on October 07, 2014, 10:33:39 PM
Ryder said he was going to Brisbane before Port jumped in the race. Was he winded and dined to go to the Lions as well? The fact is they can contest the clause, but the players association will be all over it and it stands due to the court cases. Essendon need new lawyers

the clause is total bs

if he was so upset about the 2012 supplements program he wouldn't have signed a new deal this year that's a pretty good argument imo

Obviously didn`t know prior to signing that the supplements could harm his unborn child

pretty sure that was out in the media last year
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Ziplock on October 07, 2014, 10:42:47 PM
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on October 07, 2014, 10:41:13 PM
Quote from: LF on October 07, 2014, 10:39:42 PM
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on October 07, 2014, 10:35:49 PM
Quote from: Mat0369 on October 07, 2014, 10:33:39 PM
Ryder said he was going to Brisbane before Port jumped in the race. Was he winded and dined to go to the Lions as well? The fact is they can contest the clause, but the players association will be all over it and it stands due to the court cases. Essendon need new lawyers

the clause is total bs

if he was so upset about the 2012 supplements program he wouldn't have signed a new deal this year that's a pretty good argument imo

Obviously didn`t know prior to signing that the supplements could harm his unborn child

pretty sure that was out in the media last year

I'm pretty sure the players were advised about it this year...
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Vinny on October 07, 2014, 10:47:07 PM
I am pretty sure if I was Ryder and the club said they'd hold me back after being told an unborn baby of mine could be screwed cause they drugged me, I'd walk for nothing, take them to court and flower em up. :P
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: _wato on October 07, 2014, 10:48:49 PM
Please not Varcoe, I plead with you! Don't get him Collingwood..
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: SydneyRox on October 07, 2014, 10:49:18 PM
Quote from: Vinny on October 07, 2014, 10:47:07 PM
I am pretty sure if I was Ryder and the club said they'd hold me back after being told an unborn baby of mine could be screwed cause they drugged me, I'd walk for nothing, take them to court and flower em up. :P

Yup. 100% No doubt. I would.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Mat0369 on October 07, 2014, 10:50:35 PM
I will use this for the Ryder example. Back in the 70's most people thought asbestos was harmless. Tradies would routinely remove asbestos without protective gear at the instruction of their employers. Eventually they found out the side effects it caused. Let's say that they had signed a contract with a company while the investigation was looking into how harmful asbestos actually is. The company had an idea that maybe they shouldn't be doing this but instead continued to let their employees removing the asbestos. Once the players found out the side effects and what it could cause to their unborn children along with their own health they wanted to leave their employer breaking the contrace as they felt it was an unsafe working environment/practice and could potentially have long lasting effects. Would that be fair enough? No one would think twice about it.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Noz on October 07, 2014, 10:50:48 PM
Whats the point of Ryder leaving now anyway? If the supplements might hurt his unborn child moving states won't exactly cure it.

Its Ryder's excuse to leave a sinking ship should of left when Gus and Crameris left
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: kilbluff1985 on October 07, 2014, 10:53:46 PM
Quote from: Noz on October 07, 2014, 10:50:48 PM
Whats the point of Ryder leaving now anyway? If the supplements might hurt his unborn child moving states won't exactly cure it.

Its Ryder's excuse to leave a sinking ship should of left when Gus and Crameris left

exactly
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Ziplock on October 07, 2014, 10:55:34 PM
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on October 07, 2014, 10:53:46 PM
Quote from: Noz on October 07, 2014, 10:50:48 PM
Whats the point of Ryder leaving now anyway? If the supplements might hurt his unborn child moving states won't exactly cure it.

Its Ryder's excuse to leave a sinking ship should of left when Gus and Crameris left

exactly

yeah, like, what's the point of leaving your girlfriend if she cheated on you and gave you AIDS. She promised not to do it again, and it's not like breaking up with her is going to cure your AIDS and uncheat her on you.

good point.

I am convinced.

now all we need is for Ryder to see this post.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Torpedo10 on October 07, 2014, 10:57:28 PM
Quote from: Ziplock on October 07, 2014, 10:55:34 PM
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on October 07, 2014, 10:53:46 PM
Quote from: Noz on October 07, 2014, 10:50:48 PM
Whats the point of Ryder leaving now anyway? If the supplements might hurt his unborn child moving states won't exactly cure it.

Its Ryder's excuse to leave a sinking ship should of left when Gus and Crameris left

exactly

yeah, like, what's the point of leaving your girlfriend if she cheated on you and gave you AIDS. She promised not to do it again, and it's not like breaking up with her is going to cure your AIDS and uncheat her on you.

good point.

I am convinced.

now all we need is for Ryder to see this post.
does he have Social Media? Screenshot and post.   :P
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Vinny on October 07, 2014, 10:59:48 PM
Quote from: Ziplock on October 07, 2014, 10:55:34 PM
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on October 07, 2014, 10:53:46 PM
Quote from: Noz on October 07, 2014, 10:50:48 PM
Whats the point of Ryder leaving now anyway? If the supplements might hurt his unborn child moving states won't exactly cure it.

Its Ryder's excuse to leave a sinking ship should of left when Gus and Crameris left

exactly

yeah, like, what's the point of leaving your girlfriend if she cheated on you and gave you AIDS. She promised not to do it again, and it's not like breaking up with her is going to cure your AIDS and uncheat her on you.

good point.

I am convinced.

now all we need is for Ryder to see this post.
hahahah so good
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: GoLions on October 07, 2014, 10:59:59 PM
Quote from: Ziplock on October 07, 2014, 10:55:34 PM
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on October 07, 2014, 10:53:46 PM
Quote from: Noz on October 07, 2014, 10:50:48 PM
Whats the point of Ryder leaving now anyway? If the supplements might hurt his unborn child moving states won't exactly cure it.

Its Ryder's excuse to leave a sinking ship should of left when Gus and Crameris left

exactly

yeah, like, what's the point of leaving your girlfriend if she cheated on you and gave you AIDS. She promised not to do it again, and it's not like breaking up with her is going to cure your AIDS and uncheat her on you.

good point.

I am convinced.

now all we need is for Ryder to see this post.
hahahaha
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: kilbluff1985 on October 07, 2014, 11:01:47 PM
i'm entitled to my opinion and don't have to defend it
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: My Chumps on October 07, 2014, 11:10:46 PM
Quote from: Ziplock on October 07, 2014, 10:55:34 PM
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on October 07, 2014, 10:53:46 PM
Quote from: Noz on October 07, 2014, 10:50:48 PM
Whats the point of Ryder leaving now anyway? If the supplements might hurt his unborn child moving states won't exactly cure it.

Its Ryder's excuse to leave a sinking ship should of left when Gus and Crameris left

exactly

yeah, like, what's the point of leaving your girlfriend if she cheated on you and gave you AIDS. She promised not to do it again, and it's not like breaking up with her is going to cure your AIDS and uncheat her on you.

good point.

I am convinced.

now all we need is for Ryder to see this post.
A flowering Plus, 10/10, well played Zarts
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Vinny on October 07, 2014, 11:12:25 PM
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on October 07, 2014, 11:01:47 PM
i'm entitled to my opinion  and don't have to but I can't defend it
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: kilbluff1985 on October 07, 2014, 11:13:37 PM
Quote from: Vinny on October 07, 2014, 11:12:25 PM
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on October 07, 2014, 11:01:47 PM
hahaha
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: tbagrocks on October 07, 2014, 11:17:13 PM
Quote from: Dudge on October 07, 2014, 09:01:59 PM
Can't understand for the life of me, why you would want a player, that doesn't want to even be there. Come-on James, surely you're better than that
Apparently not! Starting to think he's just a DH, never liked him myself tbh, something about him

Pity about that wife, someone should just come out and call her a dog. Cant sew for getting called a dog

Ill do it! Tanya Hird, you are a flogging dog!
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Spite on October 07, 2014, 11:24:34 PM
Quote from: _wato on October 07, 2014, 10:48:49 PM
Please not Varcoe, I plead with you! Don't get him Collingwood..

No no no no no no no no no no no no no! Worst news I've heard today (granted I've had a good day)
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: LF on October 07, 2014, 11:26:22 PM
Quote from: Spite on October 07, 2014, 11:24:34 PM
Quote from: _wato on October 07, 2014, 10:48:49 PM
Please not Varcoe, I plead with you! Don't get him Collingwood..

No no no no no no no no no no no no no! Worst news I've heard today (granted I've had a good day)

Best news I`ve heard today :D
Means he won`t be coming to West Coast then hope its true
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Noz on October 07, 2014, 11:28:30 PM
Quote from: Ziplock on October 07, 2014, 10:55:34 PM
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on October 07, 2014, 10:53:46 PM
Quote from: Noz on October 07, 2014, 10:50:48 PM
Whats the point of Ryder leaving now anyway? If the supplements might hurt his unborn child moving states won't exactly cure it.

Its Ryder's excuse to leave a sinking ship should of left when Gus and Crameris left

exactly

yeah, like, what's the point of leaving your girlfriend if she cheated on you and gave you AIDS. She promised not to do it again, and it's not like breaking up with her is going to cure your AIDS and uncheat her on you.

good point.

I am convinced.

now all we need is for Ryder to see this post.

If his going to have children then yeah the smart thing to do is inject pig intestines or whatever it was into your body

I don't care if it was sanctioned by the AFL if he really cared about his family he wouldn't do it.

Ryder is just another attention seeking player. If he took the drugs than he will be found guilty and get punished like the rest of them anyway. His nowhere near an innocent person in all of this.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Jroo on October 07, 2014, 11:54:17 PM
Cooney could be off to the Dogs  :o
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: strikes91 on October 07, 2014, 11:56:39 PM
Quote from: JROO8 on October 07, 2014, 11:54:17 PM
Cooney could be off to the Dogs  :o

Hope the dogs offer the dogs pick 6 in return.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Ziplock on October 08, 2014, 12:18:34 AM
Quote from: Noz on October 07, 2014, 11:28:30 PM
Quote from: Ziplock on October 07, 2014, 10:55:34 PM
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on October 07, 2014, 10:53:46 PM
Quote from: Noz on October 07, 2014, 10:50:48 PM
Whats the point of Ryder leaving now anyway? If the supplements might hurt his unborn child moving states won't exactly cure it.

Its Ryder's excuse to leave a sinking ship should of left when Gus and Crameris left

exactly

yeah, like, what's the point of leaving your girlfriend if she cheated on you and gave you AIDS. She promised not to do it again, and it's not like breaking up with her is going to cure your AIDS and uncheat her on you.

good point.

I am convinced.

now all we need is for Ryder to see this post.

If his going to have children then yeah the smart thing to do is inject pig intestines or whatever it was into your body

I don't care if it was sanctioned by the AFL if he really cared about his family he wouldn't do it.

Ryder is just another attention seeking player. If he took the drugs than he will be found guilty and get punished like the rest of them anyway. His nowhere near an innocent person in all of this.

The players are absolvable of blame, but that doesn't mean they're the ones ultimately in the wrong here.

You were a little vague, but I assume we're still referring to AOD-9604? Do you think any of the players had any idea of what was going into them? I doubt most of them even knew the name of the drug, let alone whether it was approved (which it wasn't) or potential side effects. They would of assumed that the club and their licensed officials knew what they were doing- hence the claim that essendon breached their duty of care.

Think about all the vaccinations etc. people take, especially at school etc. The majority of people don't even question it, you just go and get it, most parents give their consent without looking into what tests the vaccinations have passed, potential side effects etc. If schools started being like- here, have this ebola vaccine, it'll stop your kids dying a hideous death, a large majority of people would jump on it without even looking at the trials that have been run. If it then turns out the drug adverse affects like, for instance, thalidomide and hadn't passed proper trials, yeah the parents would be to blame for not checking up on that shower, but the schools would still get absolutely destroyed for having breached their duty of care.

Same concept.

(note, I'm not saying that vaccines should be inherently treated as suspicious/ bad, because they're not and anyone who believes so is an ignorant danger to society, but it's just being used as an example).

So yeah, we have legal precedents in place which means that maybe Ryder + all the AOD takers deserve punishment, but that doesn't mean essendon didn't royally flower them over and that they aren't in their rights to leave the club. I know I've taken flu vaccines from the doctor without asking specifically what strands it protects against/ what trials it's undergone, doesn't mean I don't   'really care about [my] family'.

That's a huge flowering call to make on someone, and you should have some flowering concrete proof to back it up before you start throwing it around.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: DazBurg on October 08, 2014, 07:58:18 AM
Quote from: Ziplock on October 08, 2014, 12:18:34 AM
Quote from: Noz on October 07, 2014, 11:28:30 PM
Quote from: Ziplock on October 07, 2014, 10:55:34 PM
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on October 07, 2014, 10:53:46 PM
Quote from: Noz on October 07, 2014, 10:50:48 PM
Whats the point of Ryder leaving now anyway? If the supplements might hurt his unborn child moving states won't exactly cure it.

Its Ryder's excuse to leave a sinking ship should of left when Gus and Crameris left

exactly

yeah, like, what's the point of leaving your girlfriend if she cheated on you and gave you AIDS. She promised not to do it again, and it's not like breaking up with her is going to cure your AIDS and uncheat her on you.

good point.

I am convinced.

now all we need is for Ryder to see this post.

If his going to have children then yeah the smart thing to do is inject pig intestines or whatever it was into your body

I don't care if it was sanctioned by the AFL if he really cared about his family he wouldn't do it.

Ryder is just another attention seeking player. If he took the drugs than he will be found guilty and get punished like the rest of them anyway. His nowhere near an innocent person in all of this.

The players are absolvable of blame, but that doesn't mean they're the ones ultimately in the wrong here.

You were a little vague, but I assume we're still referring to AOD-9604? Do you think any of the players had any idea of what was going into them? I doubt most of them even knew the name of the drug, let alone whether it was approved (which it wasn't) or potential side effects. They would of assumed that the club and their licensed officials knew what they were doing- hence the claim that essendon breached their duty of care.

Think about all the vaccinations etc. people take, especially at school etc. The majority of people don't even question it, you just go and get it, most parents give their consent without looking into what tests the vaccinations have passed, potential side effects etc. If schools started being like- here, have this ebola vaccine, it'll stop your kids dying a hideous death, a large majority of people would jump on it without even looking at the trials that have been run. If it then turns out the drug adverse affects like, for instance, thalidomide and hadn't passed proper trials, yeah the parents would be to blame for not checking up on that shower, but the schools would still get absolutely destroyed for having breached their duty of care.

Same concept.

(note, I'm not saying that vaccines should be inherently treated as suspicious/ bad, because they're not and anyone who believes so is an ignorant danger to society, but it's just being used as an example).

So yeah, we have legal precedents in place which means that maybe Ryder + all the AOD takers deserve punishment, but that doesn't mean essendon didn't royally flower them over and that they aren't in their rights to leave the club. I know I've taken flu vaccines from the doctor without asking specifically what strands it protects against/ what trials it's undergone, doesn't mean I don't   'really care about [my] family'.

That's a huge flowering call to make on someone, and you should have some flowering concrete proof to back it up before you start throwing it around.

yeah but besides the media beat up
what exactly could harm his unborn child?

AOD? you mean the drug that is approved now for testing in America?.....looks lie a lot of lawsuits in the states are coming then

or the fact essendon say they cannot say exactly what they took?
if that is the case ofc you can claim it could harm your unborn if you took    a or B even if it was never took

not saying Essendon has done nothing wrong at all but i'd like to see the truth to the damage rather then scare tactics to get players to actually make deals with ASADA
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Nige on October 08, 2014, 08:04:27 AM
Cooney to the Blues?  ??? U avin a giggle ther m8?  :o

Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Ricochet on October 08, 2014, 08:44:31 AM
SEN saying that Christensen is looking to be traded to a Qld club
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: kilbluff1985 on October 08, 2014, 08:48:26 AM
Quote from: Ricochet on October 08, 2014, 08:44:31 AM
SEN saying that Christensen is looking to be traded to a Qld club

:o what's he worth? early 2nd rounderish ?
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Nige on October 08, 2014, 08:58:39 AM
Quote from: Ricochet on October 08, 2014, 08:44:31 AM
SEN saying that Christensen is looking to be traded to a Qld club
I reckon the Suns would be interested.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Nige on October 08, 2014, 09:00:38 AM
Matt Granland ‏@MattGranlandSEN 19m19 minutes ago

SEN trade Sentral: Daniel Harford says Geelong's Allen Christensen could request a trade to Queensland club today, stay tuned

Kaine Reynolds ‏@kreyn29 2m2 minutes ago

Christensen is from Lara, grew up a Geelong fan and has said that he'd never want to be anywhere else. Would be stunned if rumour is true.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Ricochet on October 08, 2014, 09:04:53 AM
Quote from: Nige on October 08, 2014, 08:58:39 AM
Quote from: Ricochet on October 08, 2014, 08:44:31 AM
SEN saying that Christensen is looking to be traded to a Qld club
I reckon the Suns would be interested.
Yep definitely and Brissie would be silly not to be interested
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: kilbluff1985 on October 08, 2014, 09:48:04 AM
Bombers keen on Jaksch
As AFL.com.au reported that Greater Western Sydney tall Kristian Jaksch may find it difficult moving to preferred destination Carlton, it emerged Essendon was interested in the 20-year-old.

The Herald Sun reports the Bombers are keen to make a pitch to Jaksch, who has so far not considered them as a possible new home. 
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Nails on October 08, 2014, 10:04:07 AM
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on October 08, 2014, 09:48:04 AM
Bombers keen on Jaksch
As AFL.com.au reported that Greater Western Sydney tall Kristian Jaksch may find it difficult moving to preferred destination Carlton, it emerged Essendon was interested in the 20-year-old.

The Herald Sun reports the Bombers are keen to make a pitch to Jaksch, who has so far not considered them as a possible new home.

Essendon would be a good club to move to.

He'd be an absolute lock in their best 5 after the bans are handed out.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: kilbluff1985 on October 08, 2014, 10:07:55 AM
Quote from: Nails on October 08, 2014, 10:04:07 AM
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on October 08, 2014, 09:48:04 AM
Bombers keen on Jaksch
As AFL.com.au reported that Greater Western Sydney tall Kristian Jaksch may find it difficult moving to preferred destination Carlton, it emerged Essendon was interested in the 20-year-old.

The Herald Sun reports the Bombers are keen to make a pitch to Jaksch, who has so far not considered them as a possible new home.

Essendon would be a good club to move to.

He'd be an absolute lock in their best 5 after the bans are handed out.

top 5 is exaggerating

Daniher, Goddard, Chapman, Z Merrett and Zaharakis who never got injected
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Ricochet on October 08, 2014, 10:20:28 AM
Jon Ralph

Seems no doubt Allen Christensen wants out of Geelong. Believes the town - not the club - has become toxic for him. Time for a change
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: kilbluff1985 on October 08, 2014, 10:25:26 AM
Quote from: Ricochet on October 08, 2014, 10:20:28 AM
Jon Ralph

Seems no doubt Allen Christensen wants out of Geelong. Believes the town - not the club - has become toxic for him. Time for a change

is it just me or is that weird choice of words the toxic bit
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Ricochet on October 08, 2014, 10:26:46 AM
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on October 08, 2014, 10:25:26 AM
Quote from: Ricochet on October 08, 2014, 10:20:28 AM
Jon Ralph

Seems no doubt Allen Christensen wants out of Geelong. Believes the town - not the club - has become toxic for him. Time for a change

is it just me or is that weird choice of words the toxic bit
Yeh its all about personal issues by the sounds. But its seriously gaining some legs.
The Cats are going to release a statement soon
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Nails on October 08, 2014, 10:38:29 AM
Nick Bowen ‏@AFL_Nick 44s43 seconds ago

Lions recruitment manager Peter Schwab told http://AFL.com.au  he spoke with Christensen's manager last night, but main focus is Beams
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Nails on October 08, 2014, 10:40:12 AM
Rockliff
Redden
Rich
Aish
Taylor
Beams
Christensen
Hanley

flower that is a midfield of the future. Better than Lions triple premiership midfield.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Ricochet on October 08, 2014, 10:40:26 AM
GC could throw up their first round compo pick... which they recevied from Geelong fro Caddy... which Geelong received for Gary Ablett...
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: kilbluff1985 on October 08, 2014, 10:44:41 AM
hard to see Brisbane getting both unless they get Beams for pick 5 + Golby then get Christensen with pick 25 or whatever
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Ricochet on October 08, 2014, 10:47:21 AM
Yeh and GC will beat that with pick 15.



Greg Swann says there has been no real interest in Dan Merrett. he wants to stay and the Lions want him.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Ricochet on October 08, 2014, 10:51:46 AM
lol


(http://i60.tinypic.com/9jj7yc.png)
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Justin Bieber on October 08, 2014, 11:22:11 AM
Quote from: Nails on October 08, 2014, 10:40:12 AM
Rockliff
Redden
Rich
Aish
Taylor
Beams
Christensen
Hanley

flower that is a midfield of the future. Better than Lions triple premiership midfield.

Funny that you think that midfield is better than the GC's current midfield lol
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Nails on October 08, 2014, 11:33:24 AM
GC only have 2 good mids and that's it.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Ricochet on October 08, 2014, 11:46:11 AM
Kyle Hardingham has told Bombers he wants out

This is going to continue to get real ugly for the Bombers
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: shaker on October 08, 2014, 11:52:14 AM
Hardingham and Kavanagh wants out to things are getting worse day by day even in the 50/50 column in todays paper there was supporters saying after 42 years that they would not be supporting them anymore  they have had enough
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Boomz on October 08, 2014, 12:16:59 PM
lol not denying it's getting worse but the Hardingham one has been around for ages & he'll end up going PSD at best. Bit player. Rate Kavanagh but he hasn't done anything to prove his potential in 3 years... Wants more opportunities but did SFA in the VFL to warrant them. Fresh start might do him good I guess.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Justin Bieber on October 08, 2014, 12:17:53 PM
Quote from: Nails on October 08, 2014, 11:33:24 AM
GC only have 2 good mids and that's it.

If you aren't including Prestia then you're delusional.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: GoLions on October 08, 2014, 12:35:55 PM
Quote from: Nails on October 08, 2014, 10:40:12 AM
Rockliff
Redden
Rich
Aish
Taylor
Beams
Christensen
Hanley

flower that is a midfield of the future. Better than Lions triple premiership midfield.
And Zorko :)
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Jroo on October 08, 2014, 01:04:01 PM
Chirsto is a massive loss for the Cats, he's their best young player, just been hampered by injuries.
He's off the Suns, doubt he'll go the the Lions.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Justin Bieber on October 08, 2014, 01:24:02 PM
Quote from: JROO8 on October 08, 2014, 01:04:01 PM
Chirsto is a massive loss for the Cats, he's their best young player, just been hampered by injuries.
He's off the Suns, doubt he'll go the the Lions.

Motlop? I rate him higher.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Jroo on October 08, 2014, 01:26:25 PM
Quote from: whatlez on October 08, 2014, 01:24:02 PM
Quote from: JROO8 on October 08, 2014, 01:04:01 PM
Chirsto is a massive loss for the Cats, he's their best young player, just been hampered by injuries.
He's off the Suns, doubt he'll go the the Lions.

Motlop? I rate him higher.
Yeah he's a gun, same with Duncan, but once Christo is 100% fit he'll be better  ;)
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: meow meow on October 08, 2014, 03:27:35 PM
Quote from: meow meow on October 06, 2014, 01:24:56 PM
Might be looking for an experienced key back (Merrett?)

Dogs interested in Tom Lonergan
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Spite on October 08, 2014, 03:52:55 PM
WCE are behind in the "race" for Varcoe :'(
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Nige on October 08, 2014, 04:00:33 PM
Can I ask why there is so much hate for Varcoe?

I don't think he's anywhere near as bad as people are making him out to be.

Like honestly, he's played 125 games for one of the better teams in the competition since 2006 and has got two premiership medals to his name so he's obviously decent enough.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Purple 77 on October 08, 2014, 04:18:53 PM
However true, when he was linked to the demons as part of the Clark trade, I was the opposite of keen to get him  :-\

Maybe it's just the lack of potential to be better than what he currently is? I think he may have over-achieved in his career. Not saying being in the best 22 in 2 premiership sides is easy mind you.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Toga on October 08, 2014, 04:26:58 PM
Quote from: strikes91 on October 07, 2014, 11:56:39 PM
Quote from: JROO8 on October 07, 2014, 11:54:17 PM
Cooney could be off to the Dogs  :o

Hope the dogs offer the dogs pick 6 in return.

Lol
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: WCarey18 on October 08, 2014, 04:30:10 PM
Quote from: Toga on October 08, 2014, 04:26:58 PM
Quote from: strikes91 on October 07, 2014, 11:56:39 PM
Quote from: JROO8 on October 07, 2014, 11:54:17 PM
Cooney could be off to the Dogs  :o

Hope the dogs offer the dogs pick 6 in return.

Lol

I've heard they've asked for pick 6 and one of Libba, Wallis or Dalhaus for Cooney.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Jroo on October 08, 2014, 04:32:05 PM
Quote from: strikes91 on October 07, 2014, 11:56:39 PM
Quote from: JROO8 on October 07, 2014, 11:54:17 PM
Cooney could be off to the Dogs  :o

Hope the dogs offer the dogs pick 6 in return.
Haha, obviously I made a mistake. ::)
Dogs have offered him to the BLUES.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: WCarey18 on October 08, 2014, 04:35:41 PM
Terry Wallace has suggested that the Dogs trade Cooney to improve their draft order...

Pick 2 FOR Cooney and Pick 6, fair?
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Spite on October 08, 2014, 04:46:28 PM
Quote from: WCarey18 on October 08, 2014, 04:35:41 PM
Terry Wallace has suggested that the Dogs trade Cooney to improve their draft order...

Pick 2 FOR Cooney and Pick 6, fair?

Not too bad but why would Dees want Cooney? Doesn't seem like an amazing fit imo
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Mr.Craig on October 08, 2014, 04:49:13 PM
Hawks have made plays for him in the past. Wonder if they are still interested.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: My Chumps on October 08, 2014, 04:51:54 PM
Quote from: Spite on October 08, 2014, 04:46:28 PM
Quote from: WCarey18 on October 08, 2014, 04:35:41 PM
Terry Wallace has suggested that the Dogs trade Cooney to improve their draft order...

Pick 2 FOR Cooney and Pick 6, fair?

Not too bad but why would Dees want Cooney? Doesn't seem like an amazing fit imo
Similar to the pick up of Vince last season which I'd say has been a success. Although Cooney is obviously a bit more injury prone.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Big Mac on October 08, 2014, 05:16:19 PM
Quote from: Spite on October 08, 2014, 04:46:28 PM
Quote from: WCarey18 on October 08, 2014, 04:35:41 PM
Terry Wallace has suggested that the Dogs trade Cooney to improve their draft order...

Pick 2 FOR Cooney and Pick 6, fair?

Not too bad but why would Dees want Cooney? Doesn't seem like an amazing fit imo

Would be much keener on taking Brayshaw instead
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: kilbluff1985 on October 08, 2014, 06:11:48 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on October 08, 2014, 11:46:11 AM
Kyle Hardingham has told Bombers he wants out

This is going to continue to get real ugly for the Bombers

lol they are nothing players they are only leaving to try and get senior games i'm not even slightly concerned about them leaving i used to rate Hardingham but his disposal is shocking
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: GoLions on October 08, 2014, 06:37:35 PM
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on October 08, 2014, 06:11:48 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on October 08, 2014, 11:46:11 AM
Kyle Hardingham has told Bombers he wants out

This is going to continue to get real ugly for the Bombers

lol they are nothing players they are only leaving to try and get senior games i'm not even slightly concerned about them leaving i used to rate Hardingham but his disposal is shocking
Yeah Ryder is pretty bad. I'd imagine you'd take a 4th rounder for a nothing player then, yes? Yes? Ok, it's settled then.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: kilbluff1985 on October 08, 2014, 06:38:34 PM
Quote from: GoLions on October 08, 2014, 06:37:35 PM
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on October 08, 2014, 06:11:48 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on October 08, 2014, 11:46:11 AM
Kyle Hardingham has told Bombers he wants out

This is going to continue to get real ugly for the Bombers

lol they are nothing players they are only leaving to try and get senior games i'm not even slightly concerned about them leaving i used to rate Hardingham but his disposal is shocking
Yeah Ryder is pretty bad. I'd imagine you'd take a 4th rounder for a nothing player then, yes? Yes? Ok, it's settled then.

i was talking about Kav and Hardingham don't be a smartass
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: GoLions on October 08, 2014, 06:40:46 PM
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on October 08, 2014, 06:38:34 PM
Quote from: GoLions on October 08, 2014, 06:37:35 PM
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on October 08, 2014, 06:11:48 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on October 08, 2014, 11:46:11 AM
Kyle Hardingham has told Bombers he wants out

This is going to continue to get real ugly for the Bombers

lol they are nothing players they are only leaving to try and get senior games i'm not even slightly concerned about them leaving i used to rate Hardingham but his disposal is shocking
Yeah Ryder is pretty bad. I'd imagine you'd take a 4th rounder for a nothing player then, yes? Yes? Ok, it's settled then.

i was talking about Kav and Hardingham don't be a smartass
Then be specific, don't generalize ;)
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Vinny on October 08, 2014, 06:41:51 PM
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on October 08, 2014, 06:38:34 PM
Quote from: GoLions on October 08, 2014, 06:37:35 PM
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on October 08, 2014, 06:11:48 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on October 08, 2014, 11:46:11 AM
Kyle Hardingham has told Bombers he wants out

This is going to continue to get real ugly for the Bombers

lol they are nothing players they are only leaving to try and get senior games i'm not even slightly concerned about them leaving i used to rate Hardingham but his disposal is shocking
Yeah Ryder is pretty bad. I'd imagine you'd take a 4th rounder for a nothing player then, yes? Yes? Ok, it's settled then.

i was talking about Kav and Hardingham don't be a smartass
Y u mad bro? #hird420blazeit #getrekt #ryderforbootsma #donedeal

kidding soz
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: elephants on October 08, 2014, 06:43:03 PM
Quote from: Vinny on October 08, 2014, 06:41:51 PM
#hird420blazeit

Yes.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: kilbluff1985 on October 08, 2014, 06:43:22 PM
Quote from: GoLions on October 08, 2014, 06:40:46 PM
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on October 08, 2014, 06:38:34 PM
Quote from: GoLions on October 08, 2014, 06:37:35 PM
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on October 08, 2014, 06:11:48 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on October 08, 2014, 11:46:11 AM
Kyle Hardingham has told Bombers he wants out

This is going to continue to get real ugly for the Bombers

lol they are nothing players they are only leaving to try and get senior games i'm not even slightly concerned about them leaving i used to rate Hardingham but his disposal is shocking
Yeah Ryder is pretty bad. I'd imagine you'd take a 4th rounder for a nothing player then, yes? Yes? Ok, it's settled then.


i was talking about Kav and Hardingham don't be a smartass
Then be specific, don't generalize ;)


it was obvious, why would i call Ryder a nothing player or that he is trying to get senior games
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Nige on October 08, 2014, 06:43:56 PM
Quote from: Vinny on October 08, 2014, 06:41:51 PM
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on October 08, 2014, 06:38:34 PM
Quote from: GoLions on October 08, 2014, 06:37:35 PM
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on October 08, 2014, 06:11:48 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on October 08, 2014, 11:46:11 AM
Kyle Hardingham has told Bombers he wants out

This is going to continue to get real ugly for the Bombers

lol they are nothing players they are only leaving to try and get senior games i'm not even slightly concerned about them leaving i used to rate Hardingham but his disposal is shocking
Yeah Ryder is pretty bad. I'd imagine you'd take a 4th rounder for a nothing player then, yes? Yes? Ok, it's settled then.

i was talking about Kav and Hardingham don't be a smartass
Y u mad bro? #hird420blazeit #getrekt #ryderforbootsma #donedeal

kidding soz
#soznotsoz
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Vinny on October 08, 2014, 06:46:38 PM
(http://i.gyazo.com/ab3d9f6b46a2ec6d9236cd3f2696e79c.png)
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: GoLions on October 08, 2014, 06:47:05 PM
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on October 08, 2014, 06:43:22 PM
Quote from: GoLions on October 08, 2014, 06:40:46 PM
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on October 08, 2014, 06:38:34 PM
Quote from: GoLions on October 08, 2014, 06:37:35 PM
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on October 08, 2014, 06:11:48 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on October 08, 2014, 11:46:11 AM
Kyle Hardingham has told Bombers he wants out

This is going to continue to get real ugly for the Bombers

lol they are nothing players they are only leaving to try and get senior games i'm not even slightly concerned about them leaving i used to rate Hardingham but his disposal is shocking
Yeah Ryder is pretty bad. I'd imagine you'd take a 4th rounder for a nothing player then, yes? Yes? Ok, it's settled then.

i was talking about Kav and Hardingham don't be a smartass
Then be specific, don't generalize ;)
it was obvious, why would i call Ryder a nothing player or that he is trying to get senior games
Cause now it's kinda humorous. Especially vinny's post hahaha, classic vinnamon
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: kilbluff1985 on October 08, 2014, 06:49:37 PM
http://m.theage.com.au/afl/afl-news/afl-trade-news-radical-plan-discussed-to-get-paddy-ryder-to-port-adelaide-20141008-1137n5.html

this is interesting
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Mr.Craig on October 08, 2014, 06:50:38 PM
Quote from: Vinny on October 08, 2014, 06:46:38 PM
(http://i.gyazo.com/ab3d9f6b46a2ec6d9236cd3f2696e79c.png)

You Hird it here first folks.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Toga on October 08, 2014, 06:51:42 PM
Lol Hird smoking on his crack AOD pipe
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: elephants on October 08, 2014, 07:12:19 PM
Quote from: meow meow on October 06, 2014, 01:24:56 PM
Might be looking for an experienced key back (Merrett?)

Why did M.Talia spend all season in the VFL? Thought his performances were pretty good in 2013 were pretty good and the word 'solid' comes up heaps when describing his 2014 VFL efforts.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Mr.Craig on October 08, 2014, 07:30:25 PM
Quote from: elephants on October 08, 2014, 07:12:19 PM
Quote from: meow meow on October 06, 2014, 01:24:56 PM
Might be looking for an experienced key back (Merrett?)

Why did M.Talia spend all season in the VFL? Thought his performances were pretty good in 2013 were pretty good and the word 'solid' comes up heaps when describing his 2014 VFL efforts.

They gave Goodes, Howard and Young the boot so they must have some faith that he'll be able to play a role in 2015.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Tominator on October 08, 2014, 07:33:47 PM
Quote from: elephants on October 08, 2014, 07:12:19 PM
Quote from: meow meow on October 06, 2014, 01:24:56 PM
Might be looking for an experienced key back (Merrett?)

Why did M.Talia spend all season in the VFL? Thought his performances were pretty good in 2013 were pretty good and the word 'solid' comes up heaps when describing his 2014 VFL efforts.

Tom Rehn reported yesterday on Trade Radio that the Crows could very well make a move for him. Not sure what we'd offer in return, maybe Jarryd Lyons if he knocks back a contract?

Phil Davis is also a possibility to return to the Crows, but would probably have to accept a paycut.

I'd be very happy if we got two of Schoenmakers, Davis and/or M.Talia... picture the Talia brothers in defence  8)
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: elephants on October 08, 2014, 07:35:20 PM
Quote from: Tominator on October 08, 2014, 07:33:47 PM
Quote from: elephants on October 08, 2014, 07:12:19 PM
Quote from: meow meow on October 06, 2014, 01:24:56 PM
Might be looking for an experienced key back (Merrett?)

Why did M.Talia spend all season in the VFL? Thought his performances were pretty good in 2013 were pretty good and the word 'solid' comes up heaps when describing his 2014 VFL efforts.

Tom Rehn reported yesterday on Trade Radio that the Crows could very well make a move for him. Not sure what we'd offer in return, maybe Jarryd Lyons if he knocks back a contract?

Phil Davis is also a possibility to return to the Crows, but would probably have to accept a paycut.

I'd be very happy if we got two of Schoenmakers, Davis and/or M.Talia... picture the Talia brothers in defence  8)

Davis back to the Crows!? What sort of reception would he get?
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Mr.Craig on October 08, 2014, 07:36:47 PM
"Talia handballs to Talia. He kicks long to Crouch who passes it to Crouch in the square."
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Grazz on October 08, 2014, 07:38:32 PM
Quote from: elephants on October 08, 2014, 07:35:20 PM
Quote from: Tominator on October 08, 2014, 07:33:47 PM
Quote from: elephants on October 08, 2014, 07:12:19 PM
Quote from: meow meow on October 06, 2014, 01:24:56 PM
Might be looking for an experienced key back (Merrett?)

Why did M.Talia spend all season in the VFL? Thought his performances were pretty good in 2013 were pretty good and the word 'solid' comes up heaps when describing his 2014 VFL efforts.

Tom Rehn reported yesterday on Trade Radio that the Crows could very well make a move for him. Not sure what we'd offer in return, maybe Jarryd Lyons if he knocks back a contract?

Phil Davis is also a possibility to return to the Crows, but would probably have to accept a paycut.

I'd be very happy if we got two of Schoenmakers, Davis and/or M.Talia... picture the Talia brothers in defence  8)

Davis back to the Crows!? What sort of reception would he get?

Can't imagine it would be a warm one. He can stay where he is for all i care.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Mat0369 on October 08, 2014, 08:05:42 PM
If Lonergan leaves Geelong they could be cooked.

Varcoe blows, he hasn't been relevant in 3 years. The only reason he gets a game at the Cats is because of his pace.

The Dogs senior players were baked by the coach at their end of season reviews, that is when the rumors of the players calling for the coaches head came out. Cooney might be one of those guys which might be a reason he is up for trade.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Dudge on October 08, 2014, 08:11:38 PM
 ;)
Quote from: Mr.Craig on October 08, 2014, 07:36:47 PM
"Talia handballs to Talia. He kicks long to Crouch who passes it to Crouch in the square."

" Talia misses Talia with the handball, Crouch picks it up, does a blind turn, and runs into Crouch, who goes off with the blood rule"  ;)
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: nas on October 08, 2014, 08:16:16 PM
Quote from: Dudge on October 08, 2014, 08:11:38 PM
;)
Quote from: Mr.Craig on October 08, 2014, 07:36:47 PM
"Talia handballs to Talia. He kicks long to Crouch who passes it to Crouch in the square."

" Talia misses Talia with the handball, Crouch picks it up, does a blind turn, and runs into Crouch, who goes off with the blood rule"  ;)

& there is a lot of Sauce pouring out, creating a Dangerfield
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Dudge on October 08, 2014, 08:36:29 PM
Quote from: nas on October 08, 2014, 08:16:16 PM
Quote from: Dudge on October 08, 2014, 08:11:38 PM
;)
Quote from: Mr.Craig on October 08, 2014, 07:36:47 PM
"Talia handballs to Talia. He kicks long to Crouch who passes it to Crouch in the square."

" Talia misses Talia with the handball, Crouch picks it up, does a blind turn, and runs into Crouch, who goes off with the blood rule"  ;)

& there is a lot of Sauce pouring out, creating a Dangerfield

I Betts you're Wright for Shaw
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: nas on October 08, 2014, 08:42:49 PM
Quote from: Dudge on October 08, 2014, 08:36:29 PM
Quote from: nas on October 08, 2014, 08:16:16 PM
Quote from: Dudge on October 08, 2014, 08:11:38 PM
;)
Quote from: Mr.Craig on October 08, 2014, 07:36:47 PM
"Talia handballs to Talia. He kicks long to Crouch who passes it to Crouch in the square."

" Talia misses Talia with the handball, Crouch picks it up, does a blind turn, and runs into Crouch, who goes off with the blood rule"  ;)

& there is a lot of Sauce pouring out, creating a Dangerfield

I Betts you're Wright for Shaw

& at Knight you could feed him to the Lyons as long as a Walker doesn't see you, otherwise you could Laird in the Brown, with a Lynch mob.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Jroo on October 08, 2014, 09:02:57 PM
Dogs clearly keen on Lonergan  :o
@LuffG0305: 500k for Tom Lonergan. Definition of aggressive. Like it.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Big Mac on October 08, 2014, 09:03:38 PM
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on October 08, 2014, 06:49:37 PM
http://m.theage.com.au/afl/afl-news/afl-trade-news-radical-plan-discussed-to-get-paddy-ryder-to-port-adelaide-20141008-1137n5.html

this is interesting

How is that legal?
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Mailman the 2nd on October 08, 2014, 09:06:44 PM
Quote from: Big  Mac on October 08, 2014, 09:03:38 PM
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on October 08, 2014, 06:49:37 PM
http://m.theage.com.au/afl/afl-news/afl-trade-news-radical-plan-discussed-to-get-paddy-ryder-to-port-adelaide-20141008-1137n5.html

this is interesting

How is that legal?

Because the AFL would rather put every other club down the order of the draft than see another showerstorm Essendon court case
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: kilbluff1985 on October 08, 2014, 09:41:53 PM
Why isn't it legal?

Let Ryder go and get a compo pick then Port trade us pick 17 for like Hardingham and pick 50 or something
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Toga on October 08, 2014, 09:43:26 PM
Is that draft tampering of sorts? :-X
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Nige on October 08, 2014, 09:52:12 PM
Sportsbet delivering again.

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Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: kilbluff1985 on October 08, 2014, 09:54:24 PM
Something should get done tomorrow
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: WCarey18 on October 08, 2014, 09:56:51 PM
Quote from: Mailman the 2nd on October 08, 2014, 09:06:44 PM
Quote from: Big  Mac on October 08, 2014, 09:03:38 PM
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on October 08, 2014, 06:49:37 PM
http://m.theage.com.au/afl/afl-news/afl-trade-news-radical-plan-discussed-to-get-paddy-ryder-to-port-adelaide-20141008-1137n5.html

this is interesting

How is that legal?

Because the AFL would rather put every other club down the order of the draft than see another showerstorm Essendon court case

The question I have...if Ryder does explore his get-out clause, and nullifies his contract, is he a un/restricted FA, or a delisted FA?

I was under the impression that if ANY Essendon player explored the clause and won they would be delisted FA...otherwise what becomes of Elliot Kavanagh if he walks? He cant be a restricted FA?
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Big Mac on October 08, 2014, 10:39:43 PM
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on October 08, 2014, 09:41:53 PM
Why isn't it legal?

Let Ryder go and get a compo pick then Port trade us pick 17 for like Hardingham and pick 50 or something

They are creating a pick that doesn't exist and are using it an a trade. Sure it's great for Essendon and Port but how is it fair for the rest of the competition? There will be back-pedalling tomorrow.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Grazz on October 08, 2014, 10:41:50 PM
Quote from: Big  Mac on October 08, 2014, 10:39:43 PM
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on October 08, 2014, 09:41:53 PM
Why isn't it legal?

Let Ryder go and get a compo pick then Port trade us pick 17 for like Hardingham and pick 50 or something

They are creating a pick that doesn't exist and are using it an a trade. Sure it's great for Essendon and Port but how is it fair for the rest of the competition? There will be back-pedalling tomorrow.

Are the AFL just making stuff up now or is it more to do with keeping Ryders story and feelings off the front/back pages.  ???
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Mailman the 2nd on October 08, 2014, 10:55:31 PM
Quote from: WCarey18 on October 08, 2014, 09:56:51 PM
Quote from: Mailman the 2nd on October 08, 2014, 09:06:44 PM
Quote from: Big  Mac on October 08, 2014, 09:03:38 PM
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on October 08, 2014, 06:49:37 PM
http://m.theage.com.au/afl/afl-news/afl-trade-news-radical-plan-discussed-to-get-paddy-ryder-to-port-adelaide-20141008-1137n5.html

this is interesting

How is that legal?

Because the AFL would rather put every other club down the order of the draft than see another showerstorm Essendon court case

The question I have...if Ryder does explore his get-out clause, and nullifies his contract, is he a un/restricted FA, or a delisted FA?

I was under the impression that if ANY Essendon player explored the clause and won they would be delisted FA...otherwise what becomes of Elliot Kavanagh if he walks? He cant be a restricted FA?

That's exactly why the AFL is offering these bullshower deals to Essendon/Port because they don't want it to happen
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: GoLions on October 08, 2014, 11:17:42 PM
(http://i.gyazo.com/0c2ce015d4b68527d4c2a1fa242d3cb3.png)

Wouldn't mind if this is true. I'd be flowering pissed if we gave up a top player, definitely not worth a trade like that.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: kilbluff1985 on October 08, 2014, 11:21:12 PM
cool he will just screw them over and quit next year and they get nothing ::)
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: elephants on October 08, 2014, 11:23:37 PM
Quote from: GoLions on October 08, 2014, 11:17:42 PM
(http://i.gyazo.com/0c2ce015d4b68527d4c2a1fa242d3cb3.png)

Wouldn't mind if this is true. I'd be flowering pissed if we gave up a top player, definitely not worth a trade like that.

Will make for very interesting viewing. If Beams is seriously legit about wanting to be close to his dad it would be interesting to see if he said fk u to Collingwood and headed North to play NEAFL... (Assuming he can break contract in this circumstance).

Its a pretty dog move to keep a player away from their cancer battling father. Maybe if Eddie funds weekly visits to Brissie each week...
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Jay on October 08, 2014, 11:24:23 PM
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on October 08, 2014, 11:21:12 PM
cool he will just screw them over and quit next year and they get nothing ::)
Won't he be restricted next year? So Collingwood can just match any offer and keep him until he eventually becomes unrestricted...
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: kilbluff1985 on October 08, 2014, 11:25:51 PM
Quote from: Jayman on October 08, 2014, 11:24:23 PM
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on October 08, 2014, 11:21:12 PM
cool he will just screw them over and quit next year and they get nothing ::)
Won't he be restricted next year? So Collingwood can just match any offer and keep him until he eventually becomes unrestricted...

he can just do a Tippett though cant he?
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: GoLions on October 08, 2014, 11:35:49 PM
Quote from: Jayman on October 08, 2014, 11:24:23 PM
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on October 08, 2014, 11:21:12 PM
cool he will just screw them over and quit next year and they get nothing ::)
Won't he be restricted next year? So Collingwood can just match any offer and keep him until he eventually becomes unrestricted...
I doubt the Pies would have the salary cap space to match what we offer him though, although who knows what can happen in a year
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Mailman the 2nd on October 08, 2014, 11:46:44 PM
Quote from: Jayman on October 08, 2014, 11:24:23 PM
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on October 08, 2014, 11:21:12 PM
cool he will just screw them over and quit next year and they get nothing ::)
Won't he be restricted next year? So Collingwood can just match any offer and keep him until he eventually becomes unrestricted...

You know he could just not sign Collingwood's contract right?
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: strikes91 on October 09, 2014, 12:04:39 AM
Collingwood getting out of hand. whats wrong with 5 and 25 for someone that wants out ?
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Jay on October 09, 2014, 12:12:26 AM
Quote from: strikes91 on October 09, 2014, 12:04:39 AM
Collingwood getting out of hand. whats wrong with 5 and 25 for someone that wants out ?
Just playing hardball I presume, no point accepting it now... Wait until closer to the deadline and see if Brisbane up their offer.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Spite on October 09, 2014, 12:27:43 AM
Quote from: Jayman on October 09, 2014, 12:12:26 AM
Quote from: strikes91 on October 09, 2014, 12:04:39 AM
Collingwood getting out of hand. whats wrong with 5 and 25 for someone that wants out ?
Just playing hardball I presume, no point accepting it now... Wait until closer to the deadline and see if Brisbane up their offer.

Yeah exactly, wait until last minute to accept the two picks IF we have too.

Beams dad lives on the GC by the way for those that didn't know
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Justin Bieber on October 09, 2014, 12:29:50 AM
I don't think people realise that Beams can just walk out on Collingwood next year. There is no matching deals shower. It's like getting delisted almost. You just got to the draft and get picked up. Greenwood could do it if he wants to screw North. But if he does, would be funny if everyone passed for him haha.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: strikes91 on October 09, 2014, 12:42:18 AM
Quote from: Jayman on October 09, 2014, 12:12:26 AM
Quote from: strikes91 on October 09, 2014, 12:04:39 AM
Collingwood getting out of hand. whats wrong with 5 and 25 for someone that wants out ?
Just playing hardball I presume, no point accepting it now... Wait until closer to the deadline and see if Brisbane up their offer.

If I was Brisbane's mob i'd be telling them 5 and 25 is available for the remaining period of time, hit us up when if/you want to
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Mr.Craig on October 09, 2014, 12:53:34 AM
Pretty distasteful that AFL clubs can treat players like cattle.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: GoLions on October 09, 2014, 01:04:06 AM
Hahahaha best call

(http://i.gyazo.com/20d207d31872f4d6ccc49bb8bebf8005.png)
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Mr.Craig on October 09, 2014, 01:54:54 AM
Wouldn't mind us pulling off another 2001 style super trade. :P
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: DazBurg on October 09, 2014, 07:43:55 AM
Quote from: Mailman the 2nd on October 08, 2014, 10:55:31 PM
Quote from: WCarey18 on October 08, 2014, 09:56:51 PM
Quote from: Mailman the 2nd on October 08, 2014, 09:06:44 PM
Quote from: Big  Mac on October 08, 2014, 09:03:38 PM
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on October 08, 2014, 06:49:37 PM
http://m.theage.com.au/afl/afl-news/afl-trade-news-radical-plan-discussed-to-get-paddy-ryder-to-port-adelaide-20141008-1137n5.html

this is interesting

How is that legal?

Because the AFL would rather put every other club down the order of the draft than see another showerstorm Essendon court case

The question I have...if Ryder does explore his get-out clause, and nullifies his contract, is he a un/restricted FA, or a delisted FA?

I was under the impression that if ANY Essendon player explored the clause and won they would be delisted FA...otherwise what becomes of Elliot Kavanagh if he walks? He cant be a restricted FA?

That's exactly why the AFL is offering these bullshower deals to Essendon/Port because they don't want it to happen

really depends what the 2nd deal is

the fact they are exploring letting ryder go and getting compo for seems a bit dodgy
but it is exactly what richmond want us to do with winderlich
and exactly what stkilda and nicky dal done last year

only reason anyone bats an eye atm is because it is essendon
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Big Mac on October 09, 2014, 08:00:19 AM
Quote from: The BeDazzler on October 09, 2014, 07:43:55 AM

really depends what the 2nd deal is

the fact they are exploring letting ryder go and getting compo for seems a bit dodgy
but it is exactly what richmond want us to do with winderlich
and exactly what stkilda and nicky dal done last year

only reason anyone bats an eye atm is because it is essendon

Richmond just want to pick Winderlich up as a FA though? I didn't think they wanted to do any shoddy secondary deals where some spud is supposedly worth a first rounder.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: kilbluff1985 on October 09, 2014, 08:53:26 AM
Quote from: Big  Mac on October 09, 2014, 08:00:19 AM
Quote from: The BeDazzler on October 09, 2014, 07:43:55 AM

really depends what the 2nd deal is

the fact they are exploring letting ryder go and getting compo for seems a bit dodgy
but it is exactly what richmond want us to do with winderlich
and exactly what stkilda and nicky dal done last year

only reason anyone bats an eye atm is because it is essendon

regarding the second deal with a spud for a first rounder all they have to do is like add pick 50 to the player still might be overs but it's not like way overs

Richmond just want to pick Winderlich up as a FA though? I didn't think they wanted to do any shoddy secondary deals where some spud is supposedly worth a first rounder.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Noz on October 09, 2014, 08:54:19 AM
Why are Saints so open to trading the number 1 pick

Petracca will be the perfect fit for a team like St Kilda and they need all the young guns they can get.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: kilbluff1985 on October 09, 2014, 08:59:28 AM
Quote from: Noz on October 09, 2014, 08:54:19 AM
Why are Saints so open to trading the number 1 pick

Petracca will be the perfect fit for a team like St Kilda and they need all the young guns they can get.

they would only go for a young player like they apparently asked about Parker tabs said
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Nige on October 09, 2014, 09:04:40 AM
Quote from: Mr.Craig on October 09, 2014, 12:53:34 AM
Pretty distasteful that AFL clubs can treat players like cattle.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: shaker on October 09, 2014, 09:24:50 AM
Quote from: whatlez on October 09, 2014, 12:29:50 AM
I don't think people realise that Beams can just walk out on Collingwood next year. There is no matching deals shower. It's like getting delisted almost. You just got to the draft and get picked up. Greenwood could do it if he wants to screw North. But if he does, would be funny if everyone passed for him haha.

Yes think the Pies will take those 2 picks in the end it could backfire and they get zip next year he could even sit out next year or go on compassionate leave to be with his father
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Noz on October 09, 2014, 09:32:34 AM
Quote from: shaker on October 09, 2014, 09:24:50 AM
Quote from: whatlez on October 09, 2014, 12:29:50 AM
I don't think people realise that Beams can just walk out on Collingwood next year. There is no matching deals shower. It's like getting delisted almost. You just got to the draft and get picked up. Greenwood could do it if he wants to screw North. But if he does, would be funny if everyone passed for him haha.

Yes think the Pies will take those 2 picks in the end it could backfire and they get zip next year he could even sit out next year or go on compassionate leave to be with his father

Why do so many people think he will sit out, It will never happen
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: shaker on October 09, 2014, 09:49:38 AM
Quote from: Noz on October 09, 2014, 09:32:34 AM
Quote from: shaker on October 09, 2014, 09:24:50 AM
Quote from: whatlez on October 09, 2014, 12:29:50 AM
I don't think people realise that Beams can just walk out on Collingwood next year. There is no matching deals shower. It's like getting delisted almost. You just got to the draft and get picked up. Greenwood could do it if he wants to screw North. But if he does, would be funny if everyone passed for him haha.

Yes think the Pies will take those 2 picks in the end it could backfire and they get zip next year he could even sit out next year or go on compassionate leave to be with his father

Why do so many people think he will sit out, It will never happen

No a deal will get done reported in todays paper Greg Swann said if the Pies think they will keep him next season , well good luck with that .
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Ringo on October 09, 2014, 09:55:15 AM
Quote from: Noz on October 09, 2014, 09:32:34 AM
Quote from: shaker on October 09, 2014, 09:24:50 AM
Quote from: whatlez on October 09, 2014, 12:29:50 AM
I don't think people realise that Beams can just walk out on Collingwood next year. There is no matching deals shower. It's like getting delisted almost. You just got to the draft and get picked up. Greenwood could do it if he wants to screw North. But if he does, would be funny if everyone passed for him haha.

Yes think the Pies will take those 2 picks in the end it could backfire and they get zip next year he could even sit out next year or go on compassionate leave to be with his father

Why do so many people think he will sit out, It will never happen
He will still be paid under his contract only missing the match payments. And as I said earlier he could do a Mitch Clarke and retire due to stress and then sign with Brisbane or Suns when he is ready.
He could also play next year not sign a contract and walk to the PSD where Brisbane would be the only club in a position to meet his stated conditions.

Seriously though I suspect a deal may be done close to Friday deadline as Pies will not to run the risk of getting Zilch next year. Suspect it will be pick 5 and a lower player such as Lester or Golby or Senior Player and pick 25.

On another note Leppa spoke with Allan Christensen yesterday.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: shaker on October 09, 2014, 10:01:48 AM
Quote from: Ringo on October 09, 2014, 09:55:15 AM
Quote from: Noz on October 09, 2014, 09:32:34 AM
Quote from: shaker on October 09, 2014, 09:24:50 AM
Quote from: whatlez on October 09, 2014, 12:29:50 AM
I don't think people realise that Beams can just walk out on Collingwood next year. There is no matching deals shower. It's like getting delisted almost. You just got to the draft and get picked up. Greenwood could do it if he wants to screw North. But if he does, would be funny if everyone passed for him haha.

Yes think the Pies will take those 2 picks in the end it could backfire and they get zip next year he could even sit out next year or go on compassionate leave to be with his father

Why do so many people think he will sit out, It will never happen
He will still be paid under his contract only missing the match payments. And as I said earlier he could do a Mitch Clarke and retire due to stress and then sign with Brisbane or Suns when he is ready.
He could also play next year not sign a contract and walk to the PSD where Brisbane would be the only club in a position to meet his stated conditions.

Seriously though I suspect a deal may be done close to Friday deadline as Pies will not to run the risk of getting Zilch next year. Suspect it will be pick 5 and a lower player such as Lester or Golby or Senior Player and pick 25.

On another note Leppa spoke with Allan Christensen yesterday.

Pick 5 and 25 for me then the Pies can put up 25 for Greenwood
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: kilbluff1985 on October 09, 2014, 10:03:18 AM
that's what i believe will happen shaker

Pies will be keen to get a deal done today you would think and get Greenwood tomorrow
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Nails on October 09, 2014, 10:08:34 AM
So because Melbourne got the biggest overs of all time for Frawley, Lions pick went from 4th to 5th? That is a joke. Frawley is sh1t, this is sh1t flower

Also read in the paper Collingwood want Pick 5 + Jack Redden

WHATTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTt

Redden straight swap maybe.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: kilbluff1985 on October 09, 2014, 10:43:57 AM
CONFIRMED:
We have our first trade!
GWS Giants will receive picks 19 & 40 from Hawthorn in exchange for midfielder Jonathan O'Rourke and pick 43.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: LF on October 09, 2014, 10:46:42 AM
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on October 09, 2014, 10:43:57 AM
CONFIRMED:
We have our first trade!
GWS Giants will receive picks 19 & 40 from Hawthorn in exchange for midfielder Jonathan O'Rourke and pick 43.

Lol quite funny what was posted on the AFL site

(http://i1344.photobucket.com/albums/p660/rdw206/trade_zps37753ef6.png) (http://s1344.photobucket.com/user/rdw206/media/trade_zps37753ef6.png.html)
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Jroo on October 09, 2014, 10:48:22 AM
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on October 09, 2014, 10:43:57 AM
CONFIRMED:
We have our first trade!
GWS Giants will receive picks 19 & 40 from Hawthorn in exchange for midfielder Jonathan O'Rourke and pick 43.
Finally! Seems like a fair deal for both parties.

About Beams, I don't blame Collingwood for playing hard ball. He's one of the top mids in the comp and he's still young. Pick 5 + Pick 25 or a player such as Lester is no where near Beams' value. Collingwood want two first round picks back or the equivalent, which is fair.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: kilbluff1985 on October 09, 2014, 10:49:49 AM
but they can turn 5 and 25 into 5 + Greenwood
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Jroo on October 09, 2014, 10:52:51 AM
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on October 09, 2014, 10:49:49 AM
but they can turn 5 and 25 into 5 + Greenwood
They don't want 25 though, they can easily trade their second rounder for Greenwood anyway.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Rusty00 on October 09, 2014, 11:05:14 AM
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on October 09, 2014, 10:43:57 AM
CONFIRMED:
We have our first trade!
GWS Giants will receive picks 19 & 40 from Hawthorn in exchange for midfielder Jonathan O'Rourke and pick 43.
Hmmn. Not sure how I feel about this.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: WCarey18 on October 09, 2014, 11:06:25 AM
Time to get back on the trading bandwagon, and boy do I have a monster trade for you all!

Brisbane gives: J. Redden + pick 5 + pick 25
Brisbane receives: D. Beams + A. Christensen

Geelong give: T. Varcoe + A. Christensen + pick 14
Geelong receive: M. Clark + pick 5 + pick 30

Collingwood gives: D. Beams, H. Lumumba + pick 30
Collingwood receives: J. Redden, L. Greenwood, T. Varcoe + pick 16

Brisbane gives: J. Redden + pick 5 + pick 25
Brisbane receives: D. Beams and A. Christensen

North gives: L. Greenwood + pick 16
North receives: pick 14 + pick 23

Melbourne give: M. Clark + pick 23
Melbourne receive: H. Lumumba + pick 25 + pick 35

Monster trade I know, but it might work out for all parties. Essentially, its two three way trades combined. One for Clark-Lumumba-Varcoe, and then one for Beams-Greenwood-Redden.

I'd be happy from a North perspective, feels about right for Greenwood (early 2nd round) + pick upgrade. Rest don't really care, fight over it. :P
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: kilbluff1985 on October 09, 2014, 11:08:13 AM
Quote from: JROO8 on October 09, 2014, 10:52:51 AM
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on October 09, 2014, 10:49:49 AM
but they can turn 5 and 25 into 5 + Greenwood
They don't want 25 though, they can easily trade their second rounder for Greenwood anyway.

the few picks between Brisbane and Pies 2nd rounder might be the difference between North accepting it for Greenwood or not pick 25 looks better then pick 29
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: WCarey18 on October 09, 2014, 11:10:36 AM
Quote from: LF on October 09, 2014, 10:46:42 AM
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on October 09, 2014, 10:43:57 AM
CONFIRMED:
We have our first trade!
GWS Giants will receive picks 19 & 40 from Hawthorn in exchange for midfielder Jonathan O'Rourke and pick 43.

Lol quite funny what was posted on the AFL site

(http://i1344.photobucket.com/albums/p660/rdw206/trade_zps37753ef6.png) (http://s1344.photobucket.com/user/rdw206/media/trade_zps37753ef6.png.html)

haha. Awesome.

I feel thats about right for O'Rourke. Late first round pick and a pick downgrade. Fair to me.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Ricochet on October 09, 2014, 11:11:29 AM
Honestly think Redden + N25 is a fair trade. But Brissie will never let Redden go, and I don't think Redden would want to go tbh
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: kilbluff1985 on October 09, 2014, 11:11:34 AM
Quote from: WCarey18 on October 09, 2014, 11:06:25 AM
Time to get back on the trading bandwagon, and boy do I have a monster trade for you all!

Brisbane gives: J. Redden + pick 5 + pick 25
Brisbane receives: D. Beams + A. Christensen

Geelong give: T. Varcoe + A. Christensen + pick 14
Geelong receive: M. Clark + pick 5 + pick 30

Collingwood gives: D. Beams, H. Lumumba + pick 30
Collingwood receives: J. Redden, L. Greenwood, T. Varcoe + pick 16

Brisbane gives: J. Redden + pick 5 + pick 25
Brisbane receives: D. Beams and A. Christensen

North gives: L. Greenwood + pick 16
North receives: pick 14 + pick 23

Melbourne give: M. Clark + pick 23
Melbourne receive: H. Lumumba + pick 25 + pick 35

Monster trade I know, but it might work out for all parties. Essentially, its two three way trades combined. One for Clark-Lumumba-Varcoe, and then one for Beams-Greenwood-Redden.

I'd be happy from a North perspective, feels about right for Greenwood (early 2nd round) + pick upgrade. Rest don't really care, fight over it. :P

Brisbane giving up way to much they would never do it Beams is worth Redden and Christensen is worth pick 25ish but pick 5 is way overs
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Ricochet on October 09, 2014, 11:13:09 AM
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on October 09, 2014, 11:11:34 AM
Quote from: WCarey18 on October 09, 2014, 11:06:25 AM
Time to get back on the trading bandwagon, and boy do I have a monster trade for you all!

Brisbane gives: J. Redden + pick 5 + pick 25
Brisbane receives: D. Beams + A. Christensen

Geelong give: T. Varcoe + A. Christensen + pick 14
Geelong receive: M. Clark + pick 5 + pick 30

Collingwood gives: D. Beams, H. Lumumba + pick 30
Collingwood receives: J. Redden, L. Greenwood, T. Varcoe + pick 16

Brisbane gives: J. Redden + pick 5 + pick 25
Brisbane receives: D. Beams and A. Christensen

North gives: L. Greenwood + pick 16
North receives: pick 14 + pick 23

Melbourne give: M. Clark + pick 23
Melbourne receive: H. Lumumba + pick 25 + pick 35

Monster trade I know, but it might work out for all parties. Essentially, its two three way trades combined. One for Clark-Lumumba-Varcoe, and then one for Beams-Greenwood-Redden.

I'd be happy from a North perspective, feels about right for Greenwood (early 2nd round) + pick upgrade. Rest don't really care, fight over it. :P

Brisbane giving up way to much they would never do it Beams is worth Redden and Christensen is worth pick 25ish but pick 5 is way overs
Beams > Redden
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Toga on October 09, 2014, 11:15:45 AM
Quote from: Jayman on October 08, 2014, 11:24:23 PM
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on October 08, 2014, 11:21:12 PM
cool he will just screw them over and quit next year and they get nothing ::)
Won't he be restricted next year? So Collingwood can just match any offer and keep him until he eventually becomes unrestricted...

He'll be out of contract next year so he simply has to walk to the PSD if no deal gets done. Hope for his sake that Collingwood get him to Brisbane this year though.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Jroo on October 09, 2014, 11:17:01 AM
Quote from: Ricochet on October 09, 2014, 11:13:09 AM
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on October 09, 2014, 11:11:34 AM
Quote from: WCarey18 on October 09, 2014, 11:06:25 AM
Time to get back on the trading bandwagon, and boy do I have a monster trade for you all!

Brisbane gives: J. Redden + pick 5 + pick 25
Brisbane receives: D. Beams + A. Christensen

Geelong give: T. Varcoe + A. Christensen + pick 14
Geelong receive: M. Clark + pick 5 + pick 30

Collingwood gives: D. Beams, H. Lumumba + pick 30
Collingwood receives: J. Redden, L. Greenwood, T. Varcoe + pick 16

Brisbane gives: J. Redden + pick 5 + pick 25
Brisbane receives: D. Beams and A. Christensen

North gives: L. Greenwood + pick 16
North receives: pick 14 + pick 23

Melbourne give: M. Clark + pick 23
Melbourne receive: H. Lumumba + pick 25 + pick 35

Monster trade I know, but it might work out for all parties. Essentially, its two three way trades combined. One for Clark-Lumumba-Varcoe, and then one for Beams-Greenwood-Redden.

I'd be happy from a North perspective, feels about right for Greenwood (early 2nd round) + pick upgrade. Rest don't really care, fight over it. :P

Brisbane giving up way to much they would never do it Beams is worth Redden and Christensen is worth pick 25ish but pick 5 is way overs
Beams > Redden
Yeah Beams = Redden + N5 pretty much.
Christo > 25, so I don't know.

But that looks quite fair to most teams WC. Good stuff.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Toga on October 09, 2014, 11:17:24 AM
Quote from: Big  Mac on October 09, 2014, 08:00:19 AM
Quote from: The BeDazzler on October 09, 2014, 07:43:55 AM

really depends what the 2nd deal is

the fact they are exploring letting ryder go and getting compo for seems a bit dodgy
but it is exactly what richmond want us to do with winderlich
and exactly what stkilda and nicky dal done last year

only reason anyone bats an eye atm is because it is essendon

Richmond just want to pick Winderlich up as a FA though? I didn't think they wanted to do any shoddy secondary deals where some spud is supposedly worth a first rounder.

This ^

Nothing wrong with arranging the player to go FA, the problem is going to be pre-arranging a dodgy second deal where Essendon ship off an average player for Port's 1st round pick.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: kilbluff1985 on October 09, 2014, 11:17:32 AM
making memes is fun :P

(http://i61.tinypic.com/2lndaw8.jpg)
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Toga on October 09, 2014, 11:18:27 AM
Not sure how I feel about the O'Rourke deal, considering Hawthorn is essentially getting a #2 draft pick with a few years of development for a very late first round pick... I know he's had his injury troubles but surely GWS would've had other offers for him!
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Ricochet on October 09, 2014, 11:20:01 AM
Yeh agree mate, just makes you think though that maybe he isn't as good as the #2 pick he went at.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Spite on October 09, 2014, 11:20:01 AM
Why do people think Christo for pick 25 is fair?!
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: WCarey18 on October 09, 2014, 11:20:26 AM
Quote from: JROO8 on October 09, 2014, 11:17:01 AM
Quote from: Ricochet on October 09, 2014, 11:13:09 AM
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on October 09, 2014, 11:11:34 AM
Quote from: WCarey18 on October 09, 2014, 11:06:25 AM
Time to get back on the trading bandwagon, and boy do I have a monster trade for you all!

Brisbane gives: J. Redden + pick 5 + pick 25
Brisbane receives: D. Beams + A. Christensen

Geelong give: T. Varcoe + A. Christensen + pick 14
Geelong receive: M. Clark + pick 5 + pick 30

Collingwood gives: D. Beams, H. Lumumba + pick 30
Collingwood receives: J. Redden, L. Greenwood, T. Varcoe + pick 16

Brisbane gives: J. Redden + pick 5 + pick 25
Brisbane receives: D. Beams and A. Christensen

North gives: L. Greenwood + pick 16
North receives: pick 14 + pick 23

Melbourne give: M. Clark + pick 23
Melbourne receive: H. Lumumba + pick 25 + pick 35

Monster trade I know, but it might work out for all parties. Essentially, its two three way trades combined. One for Clark-Lumumba-Varcoe, and then one for Beams-Greenwood-Redden.

I'd be happy from a North perspective, feels about right for Greenwood (early 2nd round) + pick upgrade. Rest don't really care, fight over it. :P

Brisbane giving up way to much they would never do it Beams is worth Redden and Christensen is worth pick 25ish but pick 5 is way overs
Beams > Redden
Yeah Beams = Redden + N5 pretty much.
Christo > 25, so I don't know.

But that looks quite fair to most teams WC. Good stuff.

Yeah, the Beams + Christensen FOR Redden + pick 5 + 25 was the hardest. For me Christensen > pick 25, but Redden + pick 5 > Beams, so really it kinda balances out. Brisbane would be hurt by the loss of Redden, but be ecstatic they got BOTH Beams and Christensen.

Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: kilbluff1985 on October 09, 2014, 11:21:08 AM
Quote from: Toga on October 09, 2014, 11:18:27 AM
Not sure how I feel about the O'Rourke deal, considering Hawthorn is essentially getting a #2 draft pick with a few years of development for a very late first round pick... I know he's had his injury troubles but surely GWS would've had other offers for him!

he nominated Hawks as his preferred club
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Ricochet on October 09, 2014, 11:22:05 AM
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on October 09, 2014, 11:21:08 AM
Quote from: Toga on October 09, 2014, 11:18:27 AM
Not sure how I feel about the O'Rourke deal, considering Hawthorn is essentially getting a #2 draft pick with a few years of development for a very late first round pick... I know he's had his injury troubles but surely GWS would've had other offers for him!

he nominated Hawks as his preferred club
Doesn't mean thye have to trade him there though if they are getting much better offers elsewhere
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Nails on October 09, 2014, 11:23:22 AM
Jack Redden 1 year younger than Beams.

Wouldn't do it. Redden showed what he can do which was just as good as beams in Redden's 2nd half of the season

Redden for Beams or flower off Pies imo.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Jroo on October 09, 2014, 11:30:17 AM
Quote from: Nails on October 09, 2014, 11:23:22 AM
Jack Redden 1 year younger than Beams.

Wouldn't do it. Redden showed what he can do which was just as good as beams in Redden's 2nd half of the season

Redden for Beams or flower off Pies imo.
C'mon Nails, Beams is way better than Redden.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: kilbluff1985 on October 09, 2014, 11:33:19 AM
Quote from: JROO8 on October 09, 2014, 11:30:17 AM
Quote from: Nails on October 09, 2014, 11:23:22 AM
Jack Redden 1 year younger than Beams.

Wouldn't do it. Redden showed what he can do which was just as good as beams in Redden's 2nd half of the season

Redden for Beams or flower off Pies imo.
C'mon Nails, Beams is way better than Redden.

"way better" might be exaggerating
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: GoLions on October 09, 2014, 11:43:57 AM
Quote from: Ricochet on October 09, 2014, 11:11:29 AM
Honestly think Redden + N25 is a fair trade. But Brissie will never let Redden go, and I don't think Redden would want to go tbh
It would be a fair trade, but Redden doesn't want to go. After what happened last year, we can't be making a trade like that. I'd prefer if we didn't get Beams at all, would make for a better culture around the club and probably encourage our younger kids to re-sign as well.
And if Beams happens to leave the Pies next year, then sweet.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: WCarey18 on October 09, 2014, 11:46:25 AM
Quote from: GoLions on October 09, 2014, 11:43:57 AM
Quote from: Ricochet on October 09, 2014, 11:11:29 AM
Honestly think Redden + N25 is a fair trade. But Brissie will never let Redden go, and I don't think Redden would want to go tbh
It would be a fair trade, but Redden doesn't want to go. After what happened last year, we can't be making a trade like that. I'd prefer if we didn't get Beams at all, would make for a better culture around the club and probably encourage our younger kids to re-sign as well.
And if Beams happens to leave the Pies next year, then sweet.

Perhaps Brisbane could ask Redden to take one for the team, go to Collingwood for a year, then end of the season, say he is unhappy and request a trade back? :P lol
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: SydneyRox on October 09, 2014, 11:46:57 AM
I think the way it is looking, Brisbane just need to make sure they have room for Beams in the cap for 2016 and beyond.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Ricochet on October 09, 2014, 11:48:19 AM
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on October 09, 2014, 11:33:19 AM
Quote from: JROO8 on October 09, 2014, 11:30:17 AM
Quote from: Nails on October 09, 2014, 11:23:22 AM
Jack Redden 1 year younger than Beams.

Wouldn't do it. Redden showed what he can do which was just as good as beams in Redden's 2nd half of the season

Redden for Beams or flower off Pies imo.
C'mon Nails, Beams is way better than Redden.

"way better" might be exaggerating
24 years old and and a Premiership Player, All Australian, club Fairest and Best and for the past 4 seasons has averaged 28 possies and 1.2 goals a game.

compared to Redden who is the same age this year with none of those accolades above and for the past 4 seasons averaging 23.6 possies and 0.5 goals a game.

Redden still a very good player but Beams is on another level
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: WCarey18 on October 09, 2014, 11:48:53 AM
Quote from: SydneyRox on October 09, 2014, 11:46:57 AM
I think the way it is looking, Brisbane just need to make sure they have room for Beams in the cap for 2016 and beyond.

Shouldn't be that hard, just front load his contract....  ???
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Ricochet on October 09, 2014, 11:49:31 AM
Quote from: GoLions on October 09, 2014, 11:43:57 AM
Quote from: Ricochet on October 09, 2014, 11:11:29 AM
Honestly think Redden + N25 is a fair trade. But Brissie will never let Redden go, and I don't think Redden would want to go tbh
It would be a fair trade, but Redden doesn't want to go. After what happened last year, we can't be making a trade like that. I'd prefer if we didn't get Beams at all, would make for a better culture around the club and probably encourage our younger kids to re-sign as well.
And if Beams happens to leave the Pies next year, then sweet.
Yeh agree man, can't see it happening
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Jroo on October 09, 2014, 11:53:29 AM
Quote from: Ricochet on October 09, 2014, 11:48:19 AM
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on October 09, 2014, 11:33:19 AM
Quote from: JROO8 on October 09, 2014, 11:30:17 AM
Quote from: Nails on October 09, 2014, 11:23:22 AM
Jack Redden 1 year younger than Beams.

Wouldn't do it. Redden showed what he can do which was just as good as beams in Redden's 2nd half of the season

Redden for Beams or flower off Pies imo.
C'mon Nails, Beams is way better than Redden.

"way better" might be exaggerating
24 years old and and a Premiership Player, All Australian, club Fairest and Best and for the past 4 seasons has averaged 28 possies and 1.2 goals a game.

compared to Redden who is the same age this year with none of those accolades above and for the past 4 seasons averaging 23.6 possies and 0.5 goals a game.

Redden still a very good player but Beams is on another level
Yeah exactly, he's right up there with Fyfe, Danger, Cotch and co. He's probably shown more than all of them (well maybe apart from Fyfe), to this stage of his career.
Redden isn't on that level.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: kilbluff1985 on October 09, 2014, 11:54:44 AM
still think pick 5 would be overs Redden + 25 then maybe
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Ringo on October 09, 2014, 11:55:52 AM
For the life of me can not see why the Pies would not accept Pick 5 and Lester.

Reddan is one year younger than Beams and imo

Career Season Averages Reddan
   
Year    Team    Games    Kicks    Handballs    Disposals    Marks    Goals    Behinds    Tackles    Hitouts    Frees For    Frees Ag.    Brownlow
2014    Brisbane    14    13.4    10.4    23.9    5.1    0.4    0.3    7.0    1.5    1.4    1.5    0.36
2013    Brisbane    22    11.2    10.7    21.9    4.0    0.4    0.3    6.7    1.1    1.4    1.4    0.05
2012    Brisbane    22    12.0    13.0    25.0    4.9    0.5    0.1    6.4    0.5    1.6    1.5    0.27
2011    Brisbane    22    12.9    11.0    23.9    5.4    0.6    0.2    7.6    0.6    1.3    1.3    0.05
2010    Brisbane    22    8.7    8.8    17.5    5.2    0.2    0.5    5.2    0    1.0    1.1    
2009    Brisbane    10    7.4    6.4    13.8    3.7    0.6    0.4    3.5    0    0.4    0.8    
Career       112    11.1    10.4    21.5    4.8    0.4    0.3    6.3    0.6    1.2    1.3    0.12

Career Season Averages Beams
Year    Team    Games    Kicks    Handballs    Disposals    Marks    Goals    Behinds    Tackles    Hitouts    Frees For    Frees Ag.    Brownlow
2014    Collingwood    19    14.6    12.5    27.2    3.6    1.2    0.8    5.3    0    1.1    0.8    0.84
2013    Collingwood    8    13.6    14.9    28.5    4.6    0.8    0.4    3.9    0    1.9    0.9    0.14
2012    Collingwood    24    15.8    15.0    30.9    4.5    1.2    0.7    4.2    0    1.0    0.4    0.90
2011    Collingwood    16    11.8    11.1    22.8    5.1    1.3    0.6    3.6    0    0.8    0.5    0.07
2010    Collingwood    25    10.2    10.2    20.4    4.3    1.0    1.3    3.0    0    0.6    0.5    0.10
2009    Collingwood    18    7.9    9.7    17.7    4.7    0.8    0.6    2.3    0.1    0.8    0.4    0.31
Career       110    12.3    12.0    24.3    4.4    1.1    0.8    3.7    0    0.9    0.5    0.45
   
So try telling me the difference between the two is worth pick 5 You are dreaming.

Do not mind throwing in pick 25 but pick 5 and Reddan dreaming.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Ricochet on October 09, 2014, 11:58:06 AM
They're the same age Ringo, both born in 1990 and both drafted in 2008...
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: WCarey18 on October 09, 2014, 11:58:16 AM
Quote from: Ringo on October 09, 2014, 11:55:52 AM

Do not mind throwing in pick 25 but pick 5 and Reddan dreaming.

Agree that Pick 5 + Redden for Beams is a bit much, but Ringo, as a Lions supporter would you be happy with

Pick 5 + Pick 25 + Redden FOR Beams and Christensen?
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Jroo on October 09, 2014, 12:00:36 PM
Quote from: Ringo on October 09, 2014, 11:55:52 AM
For the life of me can not see why the Pies would not accept Pick 5 and Lester.

Reddan is one year younger than Beams and imo

Career Season Averages Reddan
   
Year    Team    Games    Kicks    Handballs    Disposals    Marks    Goals    Behinds    Tackles    Hitouts    Frees For    Frees Ag.    Brownlow
2014    Brisbane    14    13.4    10.4    23.9    5.1    0.4    0.3    7.0    1.5    1.4    1.5    0.36
2013    Brisbane    22    11.2    10.7    21.9    4.0    0.4    0.3    6.7    1.1    1.4    1.4    0.05
2012    Brisbane    22    12.0    13.0    25.0    4.9    0.5    0.1    6.4    0.5    1.6    1.5    0.27
2011    Brisbane    22    12.9    11.0    23.9    5.4    0.6    0.2    7.6    0.6    1.3    1.3    0.05
2010    Brisbane    22    8.7    8.8    17.5    5.2    0.2    0.5    5.2    0    1.0    1.1    
2009    Brisbane    10    7.4    6.4    13.8    3.7    0.6    0.4    3.5    0    0.4    0.8    
Career       112    11.1    10.4    21.5    4.8    0.4    0.3    6.3    0.6    1.2    1.3    0.12

Career Season Averages Beams
Year    Team    Games    Kicks    Handballs    Disposals    Marks    Goals    Behinds    Tackles    Hitouts    Frees For    Frees Ag.    Brownlow
2014    Collingwood    19    14.6    12.5    27.2    3.6    1.2    0.8    5.3    0    1.1    0.8    0.84
2013    Collingwood    8    13.6    14.9    28.5    4.6    0.8    0.4    3.9    0    1.9    0.9    0.14
2012    Collingwood    24    15.8    15.0    30.9    4.5    1.2    0.7    4.2    0    1.0    0.4    0.90
2011    Collingwood    16    11.8    11.1    22.8    5.1    1.3    0.6    3.6    0    0.8    0.5    0.07
2010    Collingwood    25    10.2    10.2    20.4    4.3    1.0    1.3    3.0    0    0.6    0.5    0.10
2009    Collingwood    18    7.9    9.7    17.7    4.7    0.8    0.6    2.3    0.1    0.8    0.4    0.31
Career       110    12.3    12.0    24.3    4.4    1.1    0.8    3.7    0    0.9    0.5    0.45
   
So try telling me the difference between the two is worth pick 5 You are dreaming.

Do not mind throwing in pick 25 but pick 5 and Reddan dreaming.
I'd say Beams is worth a bit more than Redden.
He wins a lot more of the ball and kicks goals.
Collingwood won't trade Beams unless they get pick 5, too.
Lions would probably ask for their 2nd rounder, but Pies would probably only offer third rounder.

So, Beams + 3rd rounder for Redden + 1st rounder would be more than fair.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: GoLions on October 09, 2014, 12:05:41 PM
Quote from: JROO8 on October 09, 2014, 12:00:36 PM
I'd say Beams is worth a bit more than Redden.
He wins a lot more of the ball and kicks goals.
Collingwood won't trade Beams unless they get pick 5, too.
Lions would probably ask for their 2nd rounder, but Pies would probably only offer third rounder.

So, Beams + 3rd rounder for Redden + 1st rounder would be more than fair.
I would be 100% against that. Not because I don't think it's a fair trade btw, but mainly because of the reasons I mentioned earlier. And plus, we didn't go after Beams, he said he wants to leave Collingwood and come to us. If it was the other way around, and let's say Hanley or Rocky wanted to leave Brisbane and go to Collingwood, would the Pies give up a top 5 draft pick (or a 2nd rounder) and one of Pendles/Beams/Sidebum? I doubt it.
If we were lacking in the midfield department, I'd probably be more inclined for us to trade one of our better players. But we're not. We have a midfield that should be extremely good for many years to come. What we need is a good key forward and defender, so therefore we shouldn't be losing our top players for another mid.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Jroo on October 09, 2014, 12:08:22 PM
Quote from: GoLions on October 09, 2014, 12:05:41 PM
Quote from: JROO8 on October 09, 2014, 12:00:36 PM
I'd say Beams is worth a bit more than Redden.
He wins a lot more of the ball and kicks goals.
Collingwood won't trade Beams unless they get pick 5, too.
Lions would probably ask for their 2nd rounder, but Pies would probably only offer third rounder.

So, Beams + 3rd rounder for Redden + 1st rounder would be more than fair.
I would be 100% against that. Not because I don't think it's a fair trade btw, but mainly because of the reasons I mentioned earlier. And plus, we didn't go after Beams, he said he wants to leave Collingwood and come to us. If it was the other way around, and let's say Hanley or Rocky wanted to leave Brisbane and go to Collingwood, would the Pies give up a top 5 draft pick (or a 2nd rounder) and one of Pendles/Beams/Sidebum? I doubt it.
If we were lacking in the midfield department, I'd probably be more inclined for us to trade one of our better players. But we're not. We have a midfield that should be extremely good for many years to come. What we need is a good key forward and defender, so therefore we shouldn't be losing our top players for another mid.
Yeah for sure, you guys would want to give up Redden. Not sure what you can offer on top of pick 5 to get the deal done, though.

But who knows, I guess we'll find out tomorrow?
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: GoLions on October 09, 2014, 12:15:04 PM
Quote from: JROO8 on October 09, 2014, 12:08:22 PM
Quote from: GoLions on October 09, 2014, 12:05:41 PM
Quote from: JROO8 on October 09, 2014, 12:00:36 PM
I'd say Beams is worth a bit more than Redden.
He wins a lot more of the ball and kicks goals.
Collingwood won't trade Beams unless they get pick 5, too.
Lions would probably ask for their 2nd rounder, but Pies would probably only offer third rounder.

So, Beams + 3rd rounder for Redden + 1st rounder would be more than fair.
I would be 100% against that. Not because I don't think it's a fair trade btw, but mainly because of the reasons I mentioned earlier. And plus, we didn't go after Beams, he said he wants to leave Collingwood and come to us. If it was the other way around, and let's say Hanley or Rocky wanted to leave Brisbane and go to Collingwood, would the Pies give up a top 5 draft pick (or a 2nd rounder) and one of Pendles/Beams/Sidebum? I doubt it.
If we were lacking in the midfield department, I'd probably be more inclined for us to trade one of our better players. But we're not. We have a midfield that should be extremely good for many years to come. What we need is a good key forward and defender, so therefore we shouldn't be losing our top players for another mid.
Yeah for sure, you guys would want to give up Redden. Not sure what you can offer on top of pick 5 to get the deal done, though.

But who knows, I guess we'll find out tomorrow?
I wouldn't be surprised if it was something like picks 5, 25, and Golby/Lester/Crisp
That, or a 3-way deal where the Pies get a good player from another club.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Jroo on October 09, 2014, 12:21:49 PM
Quote from: GoLions on October 09, 2014, 12:15:04 PM
Quote from: JROO8 on October 09, 2014, 12:08:22 PM
Quote from: GoLions on October 09, 2014, 12:05:41 PM
Quote from: JROO8 on October 09, 2014, 12:00:36 PM
I'd say Beams is worth a bit more than Redden.
He wins a lot more of the ball and kicks goals.
Collingwood won't trade Beams unless they get pick 5, too.
Lions would probably ask for their 2nd rounder, but Pies would probably only offer third rounder.

So, Beams + 3rd rounder for Redden + 1st rounder would be more than fair.
I would be 100% against that. Not because I don't think it's a fair trade btw, but mainly because of the reasons I mentioned earlier. And plus, we didn't go after Beams, he said he wants to leave Collingwood and come to us. If it was the other way around, and let's say Hanley or Rocky wanted to leave Brisbane and go to Collingwood, would the Pies give up a top 5 draft pick (or a 2nd rounder) and one of Pendles/Beams/Sidebum? I doubt it.
If we were lacking in the midfield department, I'd probably be more inclined for us to trade one of our better players. But we're not. We have a midfield that should be extremely good for many years to come. What we need is a good key forward and defender, so therefore we shouldn't be losing our top players for another mid.
Yeah for sure, you guys would want to give up Redden. Not sure what you can offer on top of pick 5 to get the deal done, though.

But who knows, I guess we'll find out tomorrow?
I wouldn't be surprised if it was something like picks 5, 25, and Golby/Lester/Crisp
That, or a 3-way deal where the Pies get a good player from another club.
Yeah that wouldn't be too bad.

What are your thoughts on Pick 5 + Mayes for Beams?
Collingwood do that, but again looks like Brisbane won't be trading Mayes.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: shaker on October 09, 2014, 12:22:51 PM
Does anyone think about Reddan that he might not want to go anywhere ?
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: GoLions on October 09, 2014, 12:22:57 PM
Quote from: JROO8 on October 09, 2014, 12:21:49 PM
Quote from: GoLions on October 09, 2014, 12:15:04 PM
Quote from: JROO8 on October 09, 2014, 12:08:22 PM
Quote from: GoLions on October 09, 2014, 12:05:41 PM
Quote from: JROO8 on October 09, 2014, 12:00:36 PM
I'd say Beams is worth a bit more than Redden.
He wins a lot more of the ball and kicks goals.
Collingwood won't trade Beams unless they get pick 5, too.
Lions would probably ask for their 2nd rounder, but Pies would probably only offer third rounder.

So, Beams + 3rd rounder for Redden + 1st rounder would be more than fair.
I would be 100% against that. Not because I don't think it's a fair trade btw, but mainly because of the reasons I mentioned earlier. And plus, we didn't go after Beams, he said he wants to leave Collingwood and come to us. If it was the other way around, and let's say Hanley or Rocky wanted to leave Brisbane and go to Collingwood, would the Pies give up a top 5 draft pick (or a 2nd rounder) and one of Pendles/Beams/Sidebum? I doubt it.
If we were lacking in the midfield department, I'd probably be more inclined for us to trade one of our better players. But we're not. We have a midfield that should be extremely good for many years to come. What we need is a good key forward and defender, so therefore we shouldn't be losing our top players for another mid.
Yeah for sure, you guys would want to give up Redden. Not sure what you can offer on top of pick 5 to get the deal done, though.

But who knows, I guess we'll find out tomorrow?
I wouldn't be surprised if it was something like picks 5, 25, and Golby/Lester/Crisp
That, or a 3-way deal where the Pies get a good player from another club.
Yeah that wouldn't be too bad.

What are your thoughts on Pick 5 + Mayes for Beams?
Collingwood do that, but again looks like Brisbane won't be trading Mayes.
From what I've seen over the last year or so, Mayes REALLY wants to stay at Brisbane. I don't think it would be good for the club if we traded him.
It would be a fair trade though.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Ricochet on October 09, 2014, 12:25:53 PM
Quote from: shaker on October 09, 2014, 12:22:51 PM
Does anyone think about Reddan that he might not want to go anywhere ?
yeh reckon everyone thinks that man. Everyone is just throwing up possible fair trades
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Nails on October 09, 2014, 12:27:35 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on October 09, 2014, 11:58:06 AM
They're the same age Ringo, both born in 1990 and both drafted in 2008...

Jack Redden - 9th December 1990

He'll be 24 year old for all of season 2015

Dayne Beams - 12th Feb 1990

He'll be 25 year old for all of season 2015

For all intents and purposes Redden is 1 year younger than Beams.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: GoLions on October 09, 2014, 12:27:57 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on October 09, 2014, 12:25:53 PM
Quote from: shaker on October 09, 2014, 12:22:51 PM
Does anyone think about Reddan that he might not want to go anywhere ?
yeh reckon everyone thinks that man. Everyone is just throwing up possible fair trades
And I honestly think that if another Lion wanted out (exluding Sauce and Patfull), it would've been made known by now. So I guess everyone wants to stay, which is good for us :)
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Ringo on October 09, 2014, 12:29:28 PM
Remember as GL has said Beams is requesting a trade. Similar to our go home Boys last year requesting trades we had to take what we could get and in my opinion could have got more for some of them. Pies screwed us with Paine for Karnezis so can not expect us to give more for Beams who wants to come.

Brisbane are rebuilding after the go home boys in losing 5 developing players and can not afford to lose any more and this is the real sticking point Pies want a player and Brisbane can not afford to give a player. That is why I think a third club has to become involved to get the deal done.

I really do not want a situation where we trade players who do not want to go and destabilise the club like we seen with the Fevola trade with players wanting out.

Deep down i do not mind if we do not get Beams this year as we will get him next year and Pies get nothing which would suit me fine to stick it up the pies.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Toga on October 09, 2014, 12:31:13 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on October 09, 2014, 11:22:05 AM
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on October 09, 2014, 11:21:08 AM
Quote from: Toga on October 09, 2014, 11:18:27 AM
Not sure how I feel about the O'Rourke deal, considering Hawthorn is essentially getting a #2 draft pick with a few years of development for a very late first round pick... I know he's had his injury troubles but surely GWS would've had other offers for him!

he nominated Hawks as his preferred club
Doesn't mean thye have to trade him there though if they are getting much better offers elsewhere

This ^

I don't understand the "preferred club" argument, it's basically making these young kids free agents. He wanted to go to a Victorian club, why wouldn't the Giants just go and say to the Victorian clubs O'Rourke is for sale, best offer gets him.. I dunno I just don't like it.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Toga on October 09, 2014, 12:33:01 PM
And yeah, the Beams/Lions situation is similar to the Ryder/Essendon situation...

Ryder and Beams want to leave their clubs, and while Port/Brisbane want to recruit them, they didn't go asking them to leave the club. Both Essendon and Collingwood have every right to play hardball, but in the end, they're gonna have to take what they can get or lose their players for nothing in 1-2 years time.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Ricochet on October 09, 2014, 12:33:47 PM
Quote from: Nails on October 09, 2014, 12:27:35 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on October 09, 2014, 11:58:06 AM
They're the same age Ringo, both born in 1990 and both drafted in 2008...

Jack Redden - 9th December 1990

He'll be 24 year old for all of season 2015

Dayne Beams - 12th Feb 1990

He'll be 25 year old for all of season 2015

For all intents and purposes Redden is 1 year younger than Beams.
haha well 10months younger :P

but yeh, AFL clubs don't look at it that closely
Born in the same year, drafted in the same year, same time in AFL. Can't really go into it much more than that
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Nails on October 09, 2014, 12:34:05 PM
Quote from: Ringo on October 09, 2014, 12:29:28 PM
Remember as GL has said Beams is requesting a trade. Similar to our go home Boys last year requesting trades we had to take what we could get and in my opinion could have got more for some of them. Pies screwed us with Paine for Karnezis so can not expect us to give more for Beams who wants to come.

Brisbane are rebuilding after the go home boys in losing 5 developing players and can not afford to lose any more and this is the real sticking point Pies want a player and Brisbane can not afford to give a player. That is why I think a third club has to become involved to get the deal done.

I really do not want a situation where we trade players who do not want to go and destabilise the club like we seen with the Fevola trade with players wanting out.

Deep down i do not mind if we do not get Beams this year as we will get him next year and Pies get nothing which would suit me fine to stick it up the pies.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Nails on October 09, 2014, 12:35:46 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on October 09, 2014, 12:33:47 PM
Quote from: Nails on October 09, 2014, 12:27:35 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on October 09, 2014, 11:58:06 AM
They're the same age Ringo, both born in 1990 and both drafted in 2008...

Jack Redden - 9th December 1990

He'll be 24 year old for all of season 2015

Dayne Beams - 12th Feb 1990

He'll be 25 year old for all of season 2015

For all intents and purposes Redden is 1 year younger than Beams.
haha well 10months younger :P

but yeh, AFL clubs don't look at it that closely
Born in the same year, drafted in the same year, same time in AFL. Can't really go into it much more than that

they do look at it. It's not like a "yeah that'll do"

Players retire on their age and how their body feels, not which season they're drafted in.

You also have to consider the fact Beams is a lot more injury prone compared to Redden. Redden had played over 100 consecutive up until this year's injury. Beams has never played a full 22.

Coaches will also be taking that into account.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Ricochet on October 09, 2014, 12:39:44 PM
Quote from: Nails on October 09, 2014, 12:35:46 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on October 09, 2014, 12:33:47 PM
Quote from: Nails on October 09, 2014, 12:27:35 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on October 09, 2014, 11:58:06 AM
They're the same age Ringo, both born in 1990 and both drafted in 2008...

Jack Redden - 9th December 1990

He'll be 24 year old for all of season 2015

Dayne Beams - 12th Feb 1990

He'll be 25 year old for all of season 2015

For all intents and purposes Redden is 1 year younger than Beams.
haha well 10months younger :P

but yeh, AFL clubs don't look at it that closely
Born in the same year, drafted in the same year, same time in AFL. Can't really go into it much more than that

they do look at it. It's not like a "yeah that'll do"

Players retire on their age and how their body feels, not which season they're drafted in.

You also have to consider the fact Beams is a lot more injury prone compared to Redden. Redden had played over 100 consecutive up until this year's injury. Beams has never played a full 22.

Coaches will also be taking that into account.
Yep they'll definitely look at injury history. But they won't put much into whether a player is born in February or December when they are still so young and both born in 1990. Maybe if they were 30/31 and they were comparing the two in a trade but at this stage of their careers it is minimal.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Spite on October 09, 2014, 01:08:02 PM
Why do you keep saying the Pies screwed you over Ringo?

Paine was developing nicely for us (and we could have used him this season for sure) while karnezis in injury prone, has OP and didn't play a single game.

I think it was a pretty fair trade, no need to be so mad.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: meow meow on October 09, 2014, 01:12:45 PM
The Pies are just waiting to see what Brisbane get from GWS for Patful. There's talk of it being pick 19. Pies want 5 and 19 instead of 5 and 25.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Justin Bieber on October 09, 2014, 01:16:49 PM
So many pages to catch up on. So very few time..
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Ringo on October 09, 2014, 01:18:16 PM
Quote from: Spite on October 09, 2014, 01:08:02 PM
Why do you keep saying the Pies screwed you over Ringo?

Paine was developing nicely for us (and we could have used him this season for sure) while karnezis in injury prone, has OP and didn't play a single game.

I think it was a pretty fair trade, no need to be so mad.
Just think we could have done a little better Similar to your situation with Beams we were asking a little more and this trade was one of the last done for the period as Karnezis wanted to go home and nominated Pies (Do not agree with young players being able to nominate clubs and my views on that are well known regardless of which club). Think we were asking for a pick and you offered the player from memory.

Will Offer Paine back to you with pick 5 for Beams if you still think paine was developing well.

And just mad at the moment as neither side seem to be moving much in their demands. After all should not players welfare be the main consideration as what was thrown at us last year. 
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: WCarey18 on October 09, 2014, 01:19:59 PM
Quote from: whatlez on October 09, 2014, 01:16:49 PM
So many pages to catch up on. So very few time..

Summary: Opinions on the value of Beams and Redden.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: WCarey18 on October 09, 2014, 01:25:41 PM
To add more fuel to the fire...

Been thinking about this, and it's unlikely a deal will arise here.

Pick 2 + Pick 3 FOR Dangerfield was knocked back.

So, surely Beams HAS to be worth more than pick 5 + pick 25?
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: kilbluff1985 on October 09, 2014, 01:32:49 PM
Quote from: WCarey18 on October 09, 2014, 01:25:41 PM
To add more fuel to the fire...

Been thinking about this, and it's unlikely a deal will arise here.

Pick 2 + Pick 3 FOR Dangerfield was knocked back.

So, surely Beams HAS to be worth more than pick 5 + pick 25?

you cant compare the scenario we know Beams wants to go to Queensland will end up there one way or another we don't actually know if Dangerfield wants to play for Melbourne or even leave the Crows and he is a bit better then Beams imo but maybe not much
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: WCarey18 on October 09, 2014, 01:43:07 PM
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on October 09, 2014, 01:32:49 PM
Quote from: WCarey18 on October 09, 2014, 01:25:41 PM
To add more fuel to the fire...

Been thinking about this, and it's unlikely a deal will arise here.

Pick 2 + Pick 3 FOR Dangerfield was knocked back.

So, surely Beams HAS to be worth more than pick 5 + pick 25?

you cant compare the scenario we know Beams wants to go to Queensland will end up there one way or another we don't actually know if Dangerfield wants to play for Melbourne or even leave the Crows and he is a bit better then Beams imo but maybe not much

Fair call, different scenarios. Beams wants to leave. Just a thought.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: JBs-Hawks on October 09, 2014, 01:55:31 PM
Just wait til Beams goes to Gws to be with Heath Shaw and lions playing hardball will bite them in the ass.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Ricochet on October 09, 2014, 02:04:36 PM
So not sure how much weight this carries but there's this from Tim Rosen:

- Don't get too excited about this Kangas fans, as I can't 100% confirm it yet...but I've heard there is still a chance Levi Greenwood stays

- My understanding is that hewas reluctant to leave, even after "poor" offers from the Kangas, but was encouraged to look elsewhere by manager

- Can now confirm that Greenwood is considering staying. There is still a chance Kangas supporters!
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Toga on October 09, 2014, 02:08:56 PM
That's interesting! Will make it harder for Brisbane to get Beams if that is the case I think
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Ricochet on October 09, 2014, 02:09:33 PM
wow is an understatment...


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Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Toga on October 09, 2014, 02:10:19 PM
Surely not :o
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Ricochet on October 09, 2014, 02:10:57 PM
Yep it's official now
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Toga on October 09, 2014, 02:12:58 PM
No way...
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Toga on October 09, 2014, 02:13:29 PM
And we thought there were some big chips up for grabs already... Wow!
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Spinking on October 09, 2014, 02:14:15 PM
That is crazy! What the hell has happened down at Whitten Oval?

Any reasons given?
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Ricochet on October 09, 2014, 02:15:07 PM
Statement from ESP: "After ongoing consultation with the Bulldogs, his family and management, Ryan Griffen has requested a trade to GWS"

"At 28, Ryan feels a fresh start outside Melbourne after 202 games with the
Western Bulldogs is the right thing for him."

"The decision has not come lightly and has been extremely difficult for all
involved."

"It has been made with the intent that the Bulldogs are duly
compensated for granting Ryan a release from the final year of his contract."

Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Toga on October 09, 2014, 02:15:18 PM
In other news...

1.24pm: Breaking news: The Advertiser is reporting Port Adelaide and Essendon's controversial plan to make ruckman Paddy Ryder a free agent has been blocked by the AFL. We'll have more as it comes to hand.

No surprises there really IMO, seemed dodgy from the outset
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: WCarey18 on October 09, 2014, 02:19:16 PM
GWS will offer picks four and seven in the NAB AFL Draft to secure Ryan Griffen, Damian Barrett reports on NAB AFL Trade Radio.

Update: Carlton to get Jaksch and Mark Wiley + 19 in exchange for pick 7, then GWS to use pick 4 and 7 FOR Griffen.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Toga on October 09, 2014, 02:19:39 PM
2.05pm: GWS will offer picks four and seven in the NAB AFL Draft to secure Ryan Griffen, Damian Barrett reports on NAB AFL Trade Radio.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: R.Griffen on October 09, 2014, 02:20:53 PM
Looks like I need to find a new favourite player since I hate GWS that much
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Jay on October 09, 2014, 02:22:02 PM
Quote from: WCarey18 on October 09, 2014, 02:19:16 PM
GWS will offer picks four and seven in the NAB AFL Draft to secure Ryan Griffen, Damian Barrett reports on NAB AFL Trade Radio.
Surely that's overs... Just pick 4 is fair for him
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Noz on October 09, 2014, 02:23:08 PM
Quote from: Jayman on October 09, 2014, 02:22:02 PM
Quote from: WCarey18 on October 09, 2014, 02:19:16 PM
GWS will offer picks four and seven in the NAB AFL Draft to secure Ryan Griffen, Damian Barrett reports on NAB AFL Trade Radio.
Surely that's overs... Just pick 4 is fair for him

Overs?

Bloke is 28 has been in the prime of his career for 6 years still has 3-4 years left of premium footy.

Has been a leader for most of his career.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Spite on October 09, 2014, 02:24:33 PM
4 and 7 for griff and you lot are complaining about beams not worth 5 and a player? ;)
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: kilbluff1985 on October 09, 2014, 02:24:39 PM
it's the nose i'm telling you scaring everybody away

given his age 2 top 10 picks might be the right move for the Dogs if they draft well
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Ricochet on October 09, 2014, 02:25:04 PM
Will be interesting what the final deal is. If true that Griffen is worth 4 and 7 then how does that compare to Beams' value...
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Jay on October 09, 2014, 02:25:18 PM
Quote from: Noz on October 09, 2014, 02:23:08 PM
Quote from: Jayman on October 09, 2014, 02:22:02 PM
Quote from: WCarey18 on October 09, 2014, 02:19:16 PM
GWS will offer picks four and seven in the NAB AFL Draft to secure Ryan Griffen, Damian Barrett reports on NAB AFL Trade Radio.
Surely that's overs... Just pick 4 is fair for him

Overs?

Bloke is 28 has been in the prime of his career for 6 years still has 3-4 years left of premium footy.

Has been a leader for most of his career.
Well if Griff goes for 4 and 7, then Pies deserve two top 5 picks for Beams.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: WCarey18 on October 09, 2014, 02:26:17 PM
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on October 09, 2014, 02:24:39 PM
given his age 2 top 10 picks might be the right move for the Dogs if they draft well

Agreed, the lose a captain, but their rebuild would be in earnest now.

Quote from: Ricochet on October 09, 2014, 02:25:04 PM
Will be interesting what the final deal is. If true that Griffen is worth 4 and 7 then how does that compare to Beams' value...

Pandoras box has been opened...thanks Griffen.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Ricochet on October 09, 2014, 02:31:39 PM
(http://i58.tinypic.com/23h5zli.jpg)
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: WCarey18 on October 09, 2014, 02:32:18 PM
The Western Bulldogs position is that Ryan is a contracted player and he will be required to fulfil his contract in 2015. (source: @westernbulldogs)

The Western Bulldogs can confirm Ryan Griffens management have communicated to the Club that Ryan wants to pursue a trade. (source: @westernbulldogs)
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: meow meow on October 09, 2014, 02:34:53 PM
Would take Shiel and a top 10 pick for him.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Ricochet on October 09, 2014, 02:36:46 PM
Lock in Cal Ward next year
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: meow meow on October 09, 2014, 02:37:36 PM
Griff for Ward!
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: WCarey18 on October 09, 2014, 02:38:37 PM
Jon Patton + ? FOR Griffen? Dogs lock in that KPF they've been begging for.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: meow meow on October 09, 2014, 02:42:13 PM
Quote from: WCarey18 on October 09, 2014, 02:38:37 PM
Jon Patton + ? FOR Griffen? Dogs lock in that KPF they've been begging for.

TOBY GREENE TO THE DOGS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: RaisyDaisy on October 09, 2014, 02:50:07 PM
Cant be a good sign when the captain of the club requests to be traded out
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: WCarey18 on October 09, 2014, 02:52:19 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on October 09, 2014, 02:50:07 PM
Cant be a good sign when the captain of the club requests to be traded out

Rift between Griffen and McCartney it appears. But yeah, ouch. No club wants to lose their captain.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: SydneyRox on October 09, 2014, 02:53:30 PM
Surely 4 and 7 is well overs for Griffen! - like the patton idea WC
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: WCarey18 on October 09, 2014, 02:57:29 PM
Quote from: SydneyRox on October 09, 2014, 02:53:30 PM
Surely 4 and 7 is well overs for Griffen! - like the patton idea WC

If I was the Dogs I'd be asking for him. One of Boyd, Cameron or Patton + pick(s).

Would think it would be in there best interests going forward to either consider Patton + Giles in a trade for Griffen, or to take picks 4 and 7 and draft well.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Nails on October 09, 2014, 03:00:45 PM
Griffen turns 29 next season. Most players drop off at 31yo...

Surely Cameron (super gun) or Boyd alone would be worth more than Griffen. GWS aren't going to pay through the nose for a guy who has like 2 good years left. He was hopeless this season too.

The asking prices being mentioned here is ridiculous.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Ringo on October 09, 2014, 03:01:53 PM
Just as 5 and a senior player is over for Beams, 4 and 7 is over for Griffen.  His Career average is is very similar to Beams and Redden.  Patton or Giles plus pick would be fair imo. Giles would even help Minson.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: WCarey18 on October 09, 2014, 03:04:31 PM
Quote from: Nails on October 09, 2014, 03:00:45 PM
Griffen turns 29 next season. Most players drop off at 31yo...

Surely Cameron (super gun) or Boyd alone would be worth more than Griffen. GWS aren't going to play through the nose for a guy who has like 2 good years left. He was hopeless this season too.

The asking prices being mentioned here is ridiculous.

If GWS are prepared to offer picks 4 and 7, clearly they don't think he is hopeless. I just said it would be in the Dogs bests interest to ask about one of Boyd, Cameron or Patton in a trade for Griffen.

Quote from: Ringo on October 09, 2014, 03:01:53 PM
Just as 5 and a senior player is over for Beams, 4 and 7 is over for Griffen.  His Career average is is very similar to Beams and Redden.  Patton or Giles plus pick would be fair imo. Giles would even help Minson.

Going to be interesting to see what repercussions (if any) this trade will have on the Beams trade. But yeah, Giles would be a great addition and should be considered.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Spite on October 09, 2014, 03:05:58 PM
Quote from: Ringo on October 09, 2014, 03:01:53 PM
Just as 5 and a senior player is over for Beams, 4 and 7 is over for Griffen.  His Career average is is very similar to Beams and Redden.  Patton or Giles plus pick would be fair imo. Giles would even help Minson.

It's not stats based Ringo. 23 touches from Griffen are magic and 23 touches from redden are decent. Big difference between them
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Mat0369 on October 09, 2014, 03:07:50 PM
What the hell is going on? I don't want to give up our first round pick for Jaksch and another tagger. Screw that.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Nige on October 09, 2014, 03:08:53 PM
shower, had to catch up on a bit.  :P

Still really don't get why JOR wanted to go to the Hawks, but eh... it's done.

Beams situation... might be interesting to see what he says about all this if anything when he gets back from his holiday with Heater, Sidey and Young.

Ryder to Port is just getting annoying because Essendon.

Griffen wanting to leave is huge, interesting to see how this works out. I wonder if Cal Ward had a word in his ear, seems to have worked out well for him. Dogs should maybe look at getting in Giles as part of the deal, would be handy.

If Greenwood stays, well that's flowering interesting after the drama of the past couple of days.

Oh yeah, and pls get Licka to the Tiges.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: WCarey18 on October 09, 2014, 03:09:18 PM
Quote from: Mat0369 on October 09, 2014, 03:07:50 PM
What the hell is going on? I don't want to give up our first round pick for Jaksch and another tagger. Screw that.

You'd receive a first round draft pick back though.

Deal is Pick 7 FOR Jaksch + Whiley + Pick 19
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Mat0369 on October 09, 2014, 03:13:41 PM
Quote from: WCarey18 on October 09, 2014, 03:09:18 PM
You'd receive a first round draft pick back though.

Deal is Pick 7 FOR Jaksch + Whiley + Pick 19

Pick 19 is effectively a 2nd round pick. Carlton should not be trading pick 7, it is counterproductive to what they should be trying to do as a club this year.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Mr.Craig on October 09, 2014, 03:14:30 PM
I'd take 4 and 7 for Griff in a heartbeat.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Purple 77 on October 09, 2014, 03:16:50 PM
MFC website jumped the gun :P

http://www.melbournefc.com.au/news/2014-10-09/goalkicking-garlett-becomes-a-dee (http://www.melbournefc.com.au/news/2014-10-09/goalkicking-garlett-becomes-a-dee)
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Ricochet on October 09, 2014, 03:17:48 PM
yep

Trade paperwork lodged:
Carlton exchange Jeff Garlett & rd5 pick (curr. 83) to Melb for its rd4 pick (curr. 61) & its rd5 pick (curr. 79).
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Toga on October 09, 2014, 03:18:05 PM
Melbourne give Pick 61 and Pick 79, Carlton give Garlett and Pick 83

Great trade by the Dees if that's the case 8)
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Purple 77 on October 09, 2014, 03:19:29 PM
Very happy with that trade! To think we snared one of the best small forwards (2014 aside) in the comp with a fourth rounder!

Well done dees!
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: WCarey18 on October 09, 2014, 03:20:05 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on October 09, 2014, 03:17:48 PM
yep

Trade paperwork lodged:
Carlton exchange Jeff Garlett & rd5 pick (curr. 83) to Melb for its rd4 pick (curr. 61) & its rd5 pick (curr. 79).

Not sure what to make of this one. Seems like the Dees got a steal, but it is Garlett after all...

Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: SydneyRox on October 09, 2014, 03:20:15 PM
Quote from: Toga on October 09, 2014, 03:18:05 PM
Melbourne give Pick 61 and Pick 79, Carlton give Garlett and Pick 83

Great trade by the Dees if that's the case 8)

Yeah Dees massive win there
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Mat0369 on October 09, 2014, 03:24:58 PM
We may as well have delisted him.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: SydneyRox on October 09, 2014, 03:27:56 PM
and everyone knows he was worth more than robbo, so you have set the bar pretty low there.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: WCarey18 on October 09, 2014, 03:28:56 PM
Quote from: Mat0369 on October 09, 2014, 03:24:58 PM
We may as well have delisted him.

Who was your leading goalkicker in 2013? And top 3 in other years?

You'd be stupid to delist him.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: meow meow on October 09, 2014, 03:30:30 PM
Quote from: WCarey18 on October 09, 2014, 03:28:56 PM
Quote from: Mat0369 on October 09, 2014, 03:24:58 PM
We may as well have delisted him.

Who was your leading goalkicker in 2013? And top 3 in other years?

You'd be stupid to delist him.

He means they basically gave him away for nothing anyway.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: WCarey18 on October 09, 2014, 03:31:58 PM
Quote from: meow meow on October 09, 2014, 03:30:30 PM
Quote from: WCarey18 on October 09, 2014, 03:28:56 PM
Quote from: Mat0369 on October 09, 2014, 03:24:58 PM
We may as well have delisted him.

Who was your leading goalkicker in 2013? And top 3 in other years?

You'd be stupid to delist him.

He means they basically gave him away for nothing anyway.

Indeed, you are correct. My apologies.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Jroo on October 09, 2014, 03:39:17 PM
Wow Griffen  :o

Good get by the Dees, Garlett will provide a good crumbing forward target for their spud talls.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Toga on October 09, 2014, 03:41:44 PM
Quote from: JROO8 on October 09, 2014, 03:39:17 PM
Wow Griffen  :o

Good get by the Dees, Garlett will provide a good crumbing forward target for their spud talls.

Enter Hogan :)
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Vinny on October 09, 2014, 03:52:58 PM
flower all this.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: elephants on October 09, 2014, 03:54:25 PM
Quote from: Vinny on October 09, 2014, 03:52:58 PM
flower all this.

+1 notafan
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: shaker on October 09, 2014, 04:00:54 PM
Nothing for days then bang finally
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Spite on October 09, 2014, 04:13:20 PM
Quote from: shaker on October 09, 2014, 04:00:54 PM
Nothing for days then bang finally

Sounds like Ele's private life
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Ricochet on October 09, 2014, 04:23:17 PM
Quote from: Spite on October 09, 2014, 04:13:20 PM
Quote from: shaker on October 09, 2014, 04:00:54 PM
Nothing for days then bang finally

Sounds like Ele's private life
haha!
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: WCarey18 on October 09, 2014, 04:32:47 PM
From AFL site:

Reports surfacing the Joel Patfull to GWS trade is imminent. @AFL_mikewhiting has the story.

http://www.afl.com.au/news/2014-10-09/lions-defender-joel-patfull-on-the-brink-of-gws-switch

Patfull for Pick 21 is the rumored deal.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Jroo on October 09, 2014, 04:34:39 PM
Quote from: WCarey18 on October 09, 2014, 04:32:47 PM
From AFL site:

Reports surfacing the Joel Patfull to GWS trade is imminent. @AFL_mikewhiting has the story.

http://www.afl.com.au/news/2014-10-09/lions-defender-joel-patfull-on-the-brink-of-gws-switch

Patfull for Pick 21 is the rumored deal.
And then that pick could be used to get Christo.

If lions can get Christo and Beams, without giving up Aish, Redden, Mayes and co., they're midfield is going to look very strong  :o
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: elephants on October 09, 2014, 04:41:22 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on October 09, 2014, 04:23:17 PM
Quote from: Spite on October 09, 2014, 04:13:20 PM
Quote from: shaker on October 09, 2014, 04:00:54 PM
Nothing for days then bang finally

Sounds like Ele's private life
haha!

Haha flower you both.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Jroo on October 09, 2014, 04:45:27 PM
Actually #21 could help get Beams.

Beams for 5, 21, 25 might have to do, for the Pies.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: WCarey18 on October 09, 2014, 04:48:55 PM
Quote from: JROO8 on October 09, 2014, 04:45:27 PM
Actually #21 could help get Beams.

Beams for 5, 21, 25 might have to do, for the Pies.

Reckon Brisbane would be focussed on using #21 to get Christensen more than throwing more picks to get Beams.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: nrich102 on October 09, 2014, 04:51:54 PM
$100 Griffen will end up at Sydney somehow :P
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: _wato on October 09, 2014, 04:52:44 PM
Quote from: nrich102 on October 09, 2014, 04:51:54 PM
$100 Griffen will end up at Sydney somehow :P

I'll take you up on that bet, and I'll give you my bank details too 8)
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: _wato on October 09, 2014, 04:55:14 PM
I honestly think Christensen should be focusing on getting to Gold Coast through one of their first round picks and Brisbane should use that extra pick to get Beams.. Let's face it, Christensen isn't needed at Brisbane and Gold Coast do need him and would absolutely love him up there..

Dunno why Brisbane would go after Christensen as well as Beams, because they would end up with a plethora of midfielders and small forwards but no key forwards and no depth as key defenders hahahaha
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: WCarey18 on October 09, 2014, 04:57:09 PM
Quote from: nrich102 on October 09, 2014, 04:51:54 PM
$100 Griffen will end up at Sydney somehow :P

$100 he ends at Hawthorn.  ::)
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Nails on October 09, 2014, 04:57:50 PM
Quote from: _wato on October 09, 2014, 04:55:14 PM
I honestly think Christensen should be focusing on getting to Gold Coast through one of their first round picks and Brisbane should use that extra pick to get Beams.. Let's face it, Christensen isn't needed at Brisbane and Gold Coast do need him and would absolutely love him up there..

Dunno why Brisbane would go after Christensen as well as Beams, because they would end up with a plethora of midfielders and small forwards but no key forwards and no depth as key defenders hahahaha

Lions have a plethora of developing key forwards ATM :-X
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Ringo on October 09, 2014, 05:01:44 PM
Tend to agree with you there Wato - Taylor, Zorko, Green and now Christensen all under 176cm is that too many smalls.

Question is will Pies accept 3 picks
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: henry on October 09, 2014, 05:03:08 PM
Quote from: WCarey18 on October 09, 2014, 04:57:09 PM
Quote from: nrich102 on October 09, 2014, 04:51:54 PM
$100 Griffen will end up at Sydney somehow :P

$100 he ends at Hawthorn.  ::)

We'd take him  :P. I rated him as one of the top 5 players in the comp last year. I was so surprised when I saw he wanted out, but he is older than I thought. Also, he may actually be trying to help his club by making sure they get adequate compensation by leaving this year rather than him leaving through FA next year and them possibly not doing as well.
I rate him extremely highly, I think he's pretty much worth picsk 4 and 7, if not then at least one of those picks and a player.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Justin Bieber on October 09, 2014, 05:06:01 PM
Quote from: elephants on October 09, 2014, 04:41:22 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on October 09, 2014, 04:23:17 PM
Quote from: Spite on October 09, 2014, 04:13:20 PM
Quote from: shaker on October 09, 2014, 04:00:54 PM
Nothing for days then bang finally

Sounds like Ele's private life
haha!

Haha flower you both.

Fixed ;)
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Sweetness on October 09, 2014, 05:09:54 PM
Apparently Jeremy Cameron flew into Adelaide an hour or so ago. There has been a rumor that the Crows have been trying to do a deal with GWS to bring Cameron to the club.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: WCarey18 on October 09, 2014, 05:10:33 PM
Quote from: whatlez on October 09, 2014, 05:06:01 PM
Quote from: elephants on October 09, 2014, 04:41:22 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on October 09, 2014, 04:23:17 PM
Quote from: Spite on October 09, 2014, 04:13:20 PM
Quote from: shaker on October 09, 2014, 04:00:54 PM
Nothing for years then bang finally

Sounds like whatlez's private life
haha!

Haha flower you both.

Fixed ;)

Got your back Ele.  ;D
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: _wato on October 09, 2014, 05:10:53 PM
Quote from: Nails on October 09, 2014, 04:57:50 PM
Lions have a plethora of developing key forwards ATM :-X

You just hit the nail right on the head mate.. The importance of the word, 'developing' meaning they aren't ready yet, and for Brisbane if they were to make a second trade after Beams it shouldn't be after another small but a developed power forward who could slot straight in.

Maybe I could've been better in my wording, but that's what I was getting at ^^
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: nrich102 on October 09, 2014, 05:26:35 PM
Quote from: _wato on October 09, 2014, 05:10:53 PM
Quote from: Nails on October 09, 2014, 04:57:50 PM
Lions have a plethora of developing key forwards ATM :-X

You just hit the nail right on the head mate.. The importance of the word, 'developing' meaning they aren't ready yet, and for Brisbane if they were to make a second trade after Beams it shouldn't be after another small but a developed power forward who could slot straight in.

Maybe I could've been better in my wording, but that's what I was getting at ^^
Watch Close, McStay and Jono Brown Freeman dominate next year ;)

Yeah, maybe they are still developing, butthe game time should help them develop.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Mat0369 on October 09, 2014, 05:27:07 PM
I would give up pick 6 for Cameron but not for Jaksch
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Mailman the 2nd on October 09, 2014, 05:27:45 PM
Griffen at 28 is nowhere near worth 4+7 lol.

I'd take 4 and 7  9 times out of 10
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Tominator on October 09, 2014, 05:27:59 PM
Cameron spotted in Adelaide today, does that mean anything I wonder?
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: LF on October 09, 2014, 05:28:40 PM
5.13pm: And the bombs keep dropping. Now the Sydney Swans have reportedly been told by the AFL they are unable to trade any players into the club this year or in 2015 unless they agree to bring an immediate end to the Cost of Living Allowance, according to the The Age.
The directive reportedly restricts the Swans from recruiting any free agents - restricted or unrestricted - until the end of 2017.
"We're not happy about it, we don't understand it and we'll continue to talk to them about it. We think we're being penalised for complying with AFL rules," Swans CEO Andrew Ireland said.
"The only way we've been able to recruit players in the past is by losing other players and creating enough salary cap space to bring players in, like every other club.
"We haven't broken any rules, we've complied with the AFL's rules and this is their rule. The only reason players have received COLA is because the AFL has said we have to pay it.
"It wasn't optional. We argued for it and we believed we should have kept it, but in the end they put the rule in place and we had to comply."
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Jroo on October 09, 2014, 05:30:10 PM
Lol, just when you thought it couldn't any crazier.
Swans banned from trading for the next two years. Can only bring in picks, not players.

@emmasq: The AFL has banned Sydney from trading anyone into the club http://t.co/32nFB03TSM via @theage
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: WCarey18 on October 09, 2014, 05:30:21 PM
Quote from: LF on October 09, 2014, 05:28:40 PM
5.13pm: And the bombs keep dropping. Now the Sydney Swans have reportedly been told by the AFL they are unable to trade any players into the club this year or in 2015 unless they agree to bring an immediate end to the Cost of Living Allowance.

Well thats one way of doing business.  :o
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Mailman the 2nd on October 09, 2014, 05:31:10 PM
No that's ok AFL its not like you created COLA or anything its only fair to wreck our offseason for 2 season straight  ::)
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Ricochet on October 09, 2014, 05:33:19 PM
lol what the hell is going on
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Toga on October 09, 2014, 05:35:26 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on October 09, 2014, 05:33:19 PM
lol what the hell is going on
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Jay on October 09, 2014, 05:38:13 PM
Quote from: Toga on October 09, 2014, 05:35:26 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on October 09, 2014, 05:33:19 PM
lol what the hell is going on
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: WCarey18 on October 09, 2014, 05:39:52 PM
Quote from: Jayman on October 09, 2014, 05:38:13 PM
Quote from: Toga on October 09, 2014, 05:35:26 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on October 09, 2014, 05:33:19 PM
lol what the hell is going on

(http://i.imgur.com/uPEt3PO.jpg)
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: nrich102 on October 09, 2014, 05:40:15 PM
Quote from: Jayman on October 09, 2014, 05:38:13 PM
Quote from: Toga on October 09, 2014, 05:35:26 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on October 09, 2014, 05:33:19 PM
lol what the hell is going on
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: SydneyRox on October 09, 2014, 05:40:37 PM
Absolute bull shower!!

How and why do they Swans get punished?? Broke no rules, following them by getting rid of COLA and now they dump this crap??
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Bill Manspeaker on October 09, 2014, 05:42:26 PM
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Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Mr.Craig on October 09, 2014, 05:43:14 PM
I don't necessarily agree with COLA but that is straight up one of the most bizarre things the AFL has ever done.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: tbagrocks on October 09, 2014, 05:48:44 PM
Quote from: Mr.Craig on October 09, 2014, 05:43:14 PM
I don't necessarily agree with COLA but that is straight up one of the most bizarre things the AFL has ever done.
Not having a go at you at all because you're a Hawk Craigy. But on a similar line, how then was the Premier allowed to sign a bottom club's best defender and pay absolutely nothing to get him?

FA isn't a horrible idea but, top 4 clubs should not be able to sign Free Agents. Have to keep it fair somehow!
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Nige on October 09, 2014, 05:49:14 PM
I'm down with it, onya AFL!
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: SydneyRox on October 09, 2014, 05:50:59 PM
Quote from: Mr.Craig on October 09, 2014, 05:43:14 PM
I don't necessarily agree with COLA but that is straight up one of the most bizarre things the AFL has ever done.

The next thing I dont understand is, COLA phase out effects GWS as well, so why are they not getting the same treatment?
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: meow meow on October 09, 2014, 05:59:32 PM
Quote from: Tominator on October 09, 2014, 05:27:59 PM
Cameron spotted in Adelaide today, does that mean anything I wonder?

Jeremy Cameron ‏@Jezzacameron 31s32 seconds agoVery interesting day today.. Even on front 9 into an 11 over back 9. Maybe my clone in Adelaide should have played #lol #Sydney

Whoever makes up this bullshower should be fired if they're in the media, and people shouldn't believe chumps on the street.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Nige on October 09, 2014, 06:01:01 PM
Quote from: meow meow on October 09, 2014, 05:59:32 PM
Quote from: Tominator on October 09, 2014, 05:27:59 PM
Cameron spotted in Adelaide today, does that mean anything I wonder?

Jeremy Cameron ‏@Jezzacameron 31s32 seconds agoVery interesting day today.. Even on front 9 into an 11 over back 9. Maybe my clone in Adelaide should have played #lol #Sydney

Whoever makes up this bullshower should be fired if they're in the media, and people shouldn't believe chumps on the street.
Just posted the same tweet in the Crows board, had a laugh.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Big Mac on October 09, 2014, 06:13:45 PM
Quote from: nrich102 on October 09, 2014, 05:40:15 PM
Quote from: Jayman on October 09, 2014, 05:38:13 PM
Quote from: Toga on October 09, 2014, 05:35:26 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on October 09, 2014, 05:33:19 PM
lol what the hell is going on
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Nige on October 09, 2014, 06:15:48 PM
Quote from: Big  Mac on October 09, 2014, 06:13:45 PM
Quote from: nrich102 on October 09, 2014, 05:40:15 PM
Quote from: Jayman on October 09, 2014, 05:38:13 PM
Quote from: Toga on October 09, 2014, 05:35:26 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on October 09, 2014, 05:33:19 PM
lol what the hell is going on
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Sweetness on October 09, 2014, 06:20:06 PM
Quote from: Nige on October 09, 2014, 06:01:01 PM
Quote from: meow meow on October 09, 2014, 05:59:32 PM
Quote from: Tominator on October 09, 2014, 05:27:59 PM
Cameron spotted in Adelaide today, does that mean anything I wonder?

Jeremy Cameron ‏@Jezzacameron 31s32 seconds agoVery interesting day today.. Even on front 9 into an 11 over back 9. Maybe my clone in Adelaide should have played #lol #Sydney

Whoever makes up this bullshower should be fired if they're in the media, and people shouldn't believe chumps on the street.

Apparently someone saw him at Kooyonga golf course. Which is in Adelaide....
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Toga on October 09, 2014, 06:26:41 PM
Quote from: Nige on October 09, 2014, 06:15:48 PM
Quote from: Big  Mac on October 09, 2014, 06:13:45 PM
Quote from: nrich102 on October 09, 2014, 05:40:15 PM
Quote from: Jayman on October 09, 2014, 05:38:13 PM
Quote from: Toga on October 09, 2014, 05:35:26 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on October 09, 2014, 05:33:19 PM
lol what the hell is going on
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: elephants on October 09, 2014, 06:33:54 PM
Quote from: Nige on October 09, 2014, 05:49:14 PM
I'm down with it, onya AFL!

Hell yeah!
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Mr.Craig on October 09, 2014, 06:41:22 PM
Quote from: tbagrocks on October 09, 2014, 05:48:44 PM
Not having a go at you at all because you're a Hawk Craigy. But on a similar line, how then was the Premier allowed to sign a bottom club's best defender and pay absolutely nothing to get him?

You need to think of it as a three way deal. Franklin to Sydney, Frawley to Hawthorn, Melbourne get Pick 2.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Nige on October 09, 2014, 06:45:34 PM
Quote from: Mr.Craig on October 09, 2014, 06:41:22 PM
Quote from: tbagrocks on October 09, 2014, 05:48:44 PM
Not having a go at you at all because you're a Hawk Craigy. But on a similar line, how then was the Premier allowed to sign a bottom club's best defender and pay absolutely nothing to get him?

You need to think of it as a three way deal. Franklin to Sydney, Frawley to Hawthorn, Melbourne get Pick 2.
2complicated4me
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Mr.Craig on October 09, 2014, 06:53:29 PM
Quote from: Nige on October 09, 2014, 06:45:34 PM
Quote from: Mr.Craig on October 09, 2014, 06:41:22 PM
Quote from: tbagrocks on October 09, 2014, 05:48:44 PM
Not having a go at you at all because you're a Hawk Craigy. But on a similar line, how then was the Premier allowed to sign a bottom club's best defender and pay absolutely nothing to get him?

You need to think of it as a three way deal. Franklin to Sydney, Frawley to Hawthorn, Melbourne get Pick 2.
2complicated4me

Richmond gets nothing.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Nige on October 09, 2014, 06:54:02 PM
Quote from: Mr.Craig on October 09, 2014, 06:53:29 PM
Quote from: Nige on October 09, 2014, 06:45:34 PM
Quote from: Mr.Craig on October 09, 2014, 06:41:22 PM
Quote from: tbagrocks on October 09, 2014, 05:48:44 PM
Not having a go at you at all because you're a Hawk Craigy. But on a similar line, how then was the Premier allowed to sign a bottom club's best defender and pay absolutely nothing to get him?

You need to think of it as a three way deal. Franklin to Sydney, Frawley to Hawthorn, Melbourne get Pick 2.
2complicated4me

Richmond gets nothing.
Pls.  :(
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: tbagrocks on October 09, 2014, 06:54:41 PM
Quote from: Mr.Craig on October 09, 2014, 06:41:22 PM
Quote from: tbagrocks on October 09, 2014, 05:48:44 PM
Not having a go at you at all because you're a Hawk Craigy. But on a similar line, how then was the Premier allowed to sign a bottom club's best defender and pay absolutely nothing to get him?

You need to think of it as a three way deal. Franklin to Sydney, Frawley to Hawthorn, Melbourne get Pick 2.
Yes yes, Im down with this theory as far as the salary cap is concerned, I get it

Doesn't mean I agree with it, but I understand it

This is when what Walshy said Tuesday, you don't have success when a players wants 1.2 mil a year. Paddy either wants team success or he simply is traded away! Boom! There it is in a nutshell, Hey Buddy?
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Mr.Craig on October 09, 2014, 07:03:26 PM
Quote from: tbagrocks on October 09, 2014, 06:54:41 PM
Quote from: Mr.Craig on October 09, 2014, 06:41:22 PM
Quote from: tbagrocks on October 09, 2014, 05:48:44 PM
Not having a go at you at all because you're a Hawk Craigy. But on a similar line, how then was the Premier allowed to sign a bottom club's best defender and pay absolutely nothing to get him?

You need to think of it as a three way deal. Franklin to Sydney, Frawley to Hawthorn, Melbourne get Pick 2.
Yes yes, Im down with this theory as far as the salary cap is concerned, I get it

Doesn't mean I agree with it, but I understand it

This is when what Walshy said Tuesday, you don't have success when a players wants 1.2 mil a year. Paddy either wants team success or he simply is traded away! Boom! There it is in a nutshell, Hey Buddy?

Just to add to what I wrote, there was the ripple effect from Buddy too which saw Mumford and White forced out. Sure White went to a top 8 (at the time) team but Mummy went to GWS so there's an example of a lesser team benefiting from free agency in a roundabout way.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Noz on October 09, 2014, 07:06:07 PM
This all started when the muppets over in GWS offered Tom Scully that multi million deal.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Mr.Craig on October 09, 2014, 07:10:16 PM
Quote from: Noz on October 09, 2014, 07:06:07 PM
This all started when the muppets over in GWS offered Tom Scully that multi million deal.

Are you saying that certain players are being paid way more than they're worth and it's become a kind of retarded arms race that will end up sinking some clubs? Because you'd be right.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Noz on October 09, 2014, 07:24:54 PM
Quote from: Mr.Craig on October 09, 2014, 07:10:16 PM
Quote from: Noz on October 09, 2014, 07:06:07 PM
This all started when the muppets over in GWS offered Tom Scully that multi million deal.

Are you saying that certain players are being paid way more than they're worth and it's become a kind of retarded arms race that will end up sinking some clubs? Because you'd be right.

No im saying that ever since Scully left thats the thing that tipped this entire system over the edge and why AFL introduced free agency.

Now most of the out of contract players want to get paid overs because if a bloke who had of played 31 games worth millions of dollars why isn't everyone .

If free agency continues to play out like this then clubs like Western Bulldogs will always be down the bottom because as soon as someone good comes then a richer club just plucks them away and the process starts all over again.

If you an established club like a Hawthorn or Sydney or even Fremantle why would you waste your time putting 3-4 years into a kid letting him develop when each year you can just go to a lower tier club and steal one of their guns giving up nothing in return and continue your premiership hunt.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Nige on October 09, 2014, 07:36:32 PM
Quote from: Mr.Craig on October 09, 2014, 07:10:16 PM
Quote from: Noz on October 09, 2014, 07:06:07 PM
This all started when the muppets over in GWS offered Tom Scully that multi million deal.

Are you saying that certain players are being paid way more than they're worth and it's become a kind of retarded arms race that will end up sinking some clubs? Because you'd be right.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Mailman the 2nd on October 09, 2014, 07:42:04 PM
Quote from: Noz on October 09, 2014, 07:24:54 PM
If you an established club like a Hawthorn or Sydney or even Fremantle why would you waste your time putting 3-4 years into a kid letting him develop when each year you can just go to a lower tier club and steal one of their guns giving up nothing in return and continue your premiership hunt.

Lucky for you Noz the AFL already took care of that
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Noz on October 09, 2014, 07:47:15 PM
This should be a new rule

Any club who finishes inside the top 4 can not partake in Free agency unless a player leaves then they can add someone. No Compensation regardless

Any club who finishes in the bottom half of the 8 can only add 1 restricted player to the club

Any club who finishes outside the top 8 can add as many free agents as they want Compensation as normal
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Big Mac on October 09, 2014, 07:48:56 PM
Quote from: Noz on October 09, 2014, 07:47:15 PM
This should be a new rule

Any club who finishes inside the top 4 can not partake in Free agency unless a player leaves then they can add someone. No Compensation regardless

Any club who finishes in the bottom half of the 8 can only add 1 restricted player to the club

Any club who finishes outside the top 8 can add as many free agents as they want Compensation as normal

http://www.afl.com.au/news/2014-07-31/hardwicks-nfl-solution (http://www.afl.com.au/news/2014-07-31/hardwicks-nfl-solution)

I posted this a while back.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Nails on October 09, 2014, 07:49:17 PM
Quote from: Noz on October 09, 2014, 07:24:54 PM
Quote from: Mr.Craig on October 09, 2014, 07:10:16 PM
Quote from: Noz on October 09, 2014, 07:06:07 PM
This all started when the muppets over in GWS offered Tom Scully that multi million deal.

Are you saying that certain players are being paid way more than they're worth and it's become a kind of retarded arms race that will end up sinking some clubs? Because you'd be right.

No im saying that ever since Scully left thats the thing that tipped this entire system over the edge and why AFL introduced free agency.

Now most of the out of contract players want to get paid overs because if a bloke who had of played 31 games worth millions of dollars why isn't everyone .

If free agency continues to play out like this then clubs like Western Bulldogs will always be down the bottom because as soon as someone good comes then a richer club just plucks them away and the process starts all over again.

If you an established club like a Hawthorn or Sydney or even Fremantle why would you waste your time putting 3-4 years into a kid letting him develop when each year you can just go to a lower tier club and steal one of their guns giving up nothing in return and continue your premiership hunt.

Except those clubs are full of good kids?  :-X
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Noz on October 09, 2014, 07:51:32 PM
Quote from: Big  Mac on October 09, 2014, 07:48:56 PM
Quote from: Noz on October 09, 2014, 07:47:15 PM
This should be a new rule

Any club who finishes inside the top 4 can not partake in Free agency unless a player leaves then they can add someone. No Compensation regardless

Any club who finishes in the bottom half of the 8 can only add 1 restricted player to the club

Any club who finishes outside the top 8 can add as many free agents as they want Compensation as normal

http://www.afl.com.au/news/2014-07-31/hardwicks-nfl-solution (http://www.afl.com.au/news/2014-07-31/hardwicks-nfl-solution)

I posted this a while back.

Yeah I remember reading that somewhere but couldn't remember where.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: KoopKicka on October 09, 2014, 08:09:36 PM
Quote from: Toga on October 09, 2014, 06:26:41 PM
Quote from: Nige on October 09, 2014, 06:15:48 PM
Quote from: Big  Mac on October 09, 2014, 06:13:45 PM
Quote from: nrich102 on October 09, 2014, 05:40:15 PM
Quote from: Jayman on October 09, 2014, 05:38:13 PM
Quote from: Toga on October 09, 2014, 05:35:26 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on October 09, 2014, 05:33:19 PM
lol what the hell is going on
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: tbagrocks on October 09, 2014, 08:14:10 PM
Have a look at us ........

Wonderful legacy that idiot Dumbetriou left behind for us fans isn't it ::)
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Mr.Craig on October 09, 2014, 08:20:43 PM
Quote from: Noz on October 09, 2014, 07:24:54 PM
If free agency continues to play out like this then clubs like Western Bulldogs will always be down the bottom because as soon as someone good comes then a richer club just plucks them away and the process starts all over again.

It's funny you should mention the Bulldogs the day that it comes to light Griffen has issues with the club and wants to leave. If clubs create an environment where players are thriving then they will have far less desire to take the money and run.

I would hazard a guess that the majority of Hawthorn's best 25 could be on more money at a different club. Instead of shedding tears over free agency, bottom 8 teams should be expending effort on building better workplaces.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Big Mac on October 09, 2014, 08:26:02 PM
Quote from: Mr.Craig on October 09, 2014, 08:20:43 PM
Quote from: Noz on October 09, 2014, 07:24:54 PM
If free agency continues to play out like this then clubs like Western Bulldogs will always be down the bottom because as soon as someone good comes then a richer club just plucks them away and the process starts all over again.

It's funny you should mention the Bulldogs the day that it comes to light Griffen has issues with the club and wants to leave. If clubs create an environment where players are thriving then they will have far less desire to take the money and run.

I would hazard a guess that the majority of Hawthorn's best 25 could be on more money at a different club. Instead of shedding tears over free agency, bottom 8 teams should be expending effort on building better workplaces.

How do you suppose teams do this? Melbourne has possibly the best CEO/Coaching duo in the competition (even managed a profit this year somehow) but Frawley still 'took the money and ran'
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: KoopKicka on October 09, 2014, 08:29:04 PM
Quote from: Big  Mac on October 09, 2014, 08:26:02 PM
Quote from: Mr.Craig on October 09, 2014, 08:20:43 PM
Quote from: Noz on October 09, 2014, 07:24:54 PM
If free agency continues to play out like this then clubs like Western Bulldogs will always be down the bottom because as soon as someone good comes then a richer club just plucks them away and the process starts all over again.

It's funny you should mention the Bulldogs the day that it comes to light Griffen has issues with the club and wants to leave. If clubs create an environment where players are thriving then they will have far less desire to take the money and run.

I would hazard a guess that the majority of Hawthorn's best 25 could be on more money at a different club. Instead of shedding tears over free agency, bottom 8 teams should be expending effort on building better workplaces.

How do you suppose teams do this? Melbourne has possibly the best CEO/Coaching duo in the competition (even managed a profit this year somehow) but Frawley still 'took the money and ran'

Pfft..... :P Im pretty sure Port proved they did.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Noz on October 09, 2014, 08:32:20 PM
Quote from: Mr.Craig on October 09, 2014, 08:20:43 PM
Quote from: Noz on October 09, 2014, 07:24:54 PM
If free agency continues to play out like this then clubs like Western Bulldogs will always be down the bottom because as soon as someone good comes then a richer club just plucks them away and the process starts all over again.

It's funny you should mention the Bulldogs the day that it comes to light Griffen has issues with the club and wants to leave. If clubs create an environment where players are thriving then they will have far less desire to take the money and run.

I would hazard a guess that the majority of Hawthorn's best 25 could be on more money at a different club. Instead of shedding tears over free agency, bottom 8 teams should be expending effort on building better workplaces.

Harbrow, Ward, Higgins, Griffen, Cooney (possible), Minson (possible) these are all players who have been approached by other clubs in the past couple of years through this free agency block.

How can you sell the Western Bulldogs to a player when you have become the most vulnerable club of this modern day free agency period. Bulldogs are going no where because they get their players stolen from them. Pretty hard to build a workplace when you have nothing to build it on
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Mr.Craig on October 09, 2014, 08:44:12 PM
Quote from: Noz on October 09, 2014, 08:32:20 PM
Quote from: Mr.Craig on October 09, 2014, 08:20:43 PM
Quote from: Noz on October 09, 2014, 07:24:54 PM
If free agency continues to play out like this then clubs like Western Bulldogs will always be down the bottom because as soon as someone good comes then a richer club just plucks them away and the process starts all over again.

It's funny you should mention the Bulldogs the day that it comes to light Griffen has issues with the club and wants to leave. If clubs create an environment where players are thriving then they will have far less desire to take the money and run.

I would hazard a guess that the majority of Hawthorn's best 25 could be on more money at a different club. Instead of shedding tears over free agency, bottom 8 teams should be expending effort on building better workplaces.

Harbrow, Ward, Higgins, Griffen, Cooney (possible), Minson (possible) these are all players who have been approached by other clubs in the past couple of years through this free agency block.

How can you sell the Western Bulldogs to a player when you have become the most vulnerable club of this modern day free agency period. Bulldogs are going no where because they get their players stolen from them. Pretty hard to build a workplace when you have nothing to build it on

Surely you of all people would understand what I'm talking about. Think about what Port have done in recent times.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Mr.Craig on October 09, 2014, 08:53:11 PM
Quote from: Big  Mac on October 09, 2014, 08:26:02 PM
Quote from: Mr.Craig on October 09, 2014, 08:20:43 PM
Quote from: Noz on October 09, 2014, 07:24:54 PM
If free agency continues to play out like this then clubs like Western Bulldogs will always be down the bottom because as soon as someone good comes then a richer club just plucks them away and the process starts all over again.

It's funny you should mention the Bulldogs the day that it comes to light Griffen has issues with the club and wants to leave. If clubs create an environment where players are thriving then they will have far less desire to take the money and run.

I would hazard a guess that the majority of Hawthorn's best 25 could be on more money at a different club. Instead of shedding tears over free agency, bottom 8 teams should be expending effort on building better workplaces.

How do you suppose teams do this? Melbourne has possibly the best CEO/Coaching duo in the competition (even managed a profit this year somehow) but Frawley still 'took the money and ran'

Hawthorn has possibly the best CEO/Coaching duo in the competition but Franklin still 'took the money' and ran.

Gooses gonna goose. Doesn't mean the farm can't prosper. Just gotta keep sowing the right seeds.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: WCarey18 on October 09, 2014, 08:53:19 PM
Quote from: Mr.Craig on October 09, 2014, 08:44:12 PM
Quote from: Noz on October 09, 2014, 08:32:20 PM
Quote from: Mr.Craig on October 09, 2014, 08:20:43 PM
Quote from: Noz on October 09, 2014, 07:24:54 PM
If free agency continues to play out like this then clubs like Western Bulldogs will always be down the bottom because as soon as someone good comes then a richer club just plucks them away and the process starts all over again.

It's funny you should mention the Bulldogs the day that it comes to light Griffen has issues with the club and wants to leave. If clubs create an environment where players are thriving then they will have far less desire to take the money and run.

I would hazard a guess that the majority of Hawthorn's best 25 could be on more money at a different club. Instead of shedding tears over free agency, bottom 8 teams should be expending effort on building better workplaces.

Harbrow, Ward, Higgins, Griffen, Cooney (possible), Minson (possible) these are all players who have been approached by other clubs in the past couple of years through this free agency block.

How can you sell the Western Bulldogs to a player when you have become the most vulnerable club of this modern day free agency period. Bulldogs are going no where because they get their players stolen from them. Pretty hard to build a workplace when you have nothing to build it on

Surely you of all people would understand what I'm talking about. Think about what Port have done in recent times.

(http://covers.booktopia.com.au/big/9781921804502/kochie-s-best-jokes-volume-5.jpg)

First thing that springs to my mind. How many Chairman of AFL clubs have joke books?  :-X
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: kilbluff1985 on October 09, 2014, 08:56:54 PM
just when you think nothing else interesting will happen today

(http://i58.tinypic.com/20qhxzo.jpg)
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: roo boys! on October 09, 2014, 09:00:46 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on October 09, 2014, 02:04:36 PM
So not sure how much weight this carries but there's this from Tim Rosen:

- Don't get too excited about this Kangas fans, as I can't 100% confirm it yet...but I've heard there is still a chance Levi Greenwood stays

- My understanding is that hewas reluctant to leave, even after "poor" offers from the Kangas, but was encouraged to look elsewhere by manager

- Can now confirm that Greenwood is considering staying. There is still a chance Kangas supporters!
I take it back! Levi you're not a shower, money hungry bloke after all, your kicking isn't THAT bad, and this year wasn't just a flash in the pan! :P

Had a feeling Pickering would be behind this in some way or another...
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Nails on October 09, 2014, 09:01:24 PM
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on October 09, 2014, 08:56:54 PM
just when you think nothing else interesting will happen today

(http://i58.tinypic.com/20qhxzo.jpg)

Normally when you say "nothing else interesting will happen today"

You're meant to actually following it up with something interesting.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: kilbluff1985 on October 09, 2014, 09:09:23 PM
Quote from: Nails on October 09, 2014, 09:01:24 PM
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on October 09, 2014, 08:56:54 PM
just when you think nothing else interesting will happen today

(http://i58.tinypic.com/20qhxzo.jpg)

Normally when you say "nothing else interesting will happen today"

You're meant to actually following it up with something interesting.

i doubt everyone shares your opinion
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: GoLions on October 09, 2014, 09:10:04 PM
hahahahahaha
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Toga on October 09, 2014, 09:10:38 PM
Quote from: GoLions on October 09, 2014, 09:10:04 PM
hahahahahaha
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: LF on October 09, 2014, 09:11:05 PM
Quote from: Toga on October 09, 2014, 09:10:38 PM
Quote from: GoLions on October 09, 2014, 09:10:04 PM
hahahahahaha
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: WCarey18 on October 09, 2014, 09:11:49 PM
Quote from: LF on October 09, 2014, 09:11:05 PM
Quote from: Toga on October 09, 2014, 09:10:38 PM
Quote from: GoLions on October 09, 2014, 09:10:04 PM
hahahahahaha
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Nige on October 09, 2014, 09:14:02 PM
Quote from: WCarey18 on October 09, 2014, 09:11:49 PM
Quote from: LF on October 09, 2014, 09:11:05 PM
Quote from: Toga on October 09, 2014, 09:10:38 PM
Quote from: GoLions on October 09, 2014, 09:10:04 PM
hahahahahaha
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: kilbluff1985 on October 09, 2014, 09:14:03 PM
spastics
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: GoLions on October 09, 2014, 09:14:30 PM
Quote from: Whipped on October 09, 2014, 09:14:03 PM
spastics
Whipped.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Mr.Craig on October 09, 2014, 09:16:44 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IIEVqFB4WUo
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Ringo on October 09, 2014, 09:17:01 PM
Careful whipped that is uncalled for and can lead to a ban - Unsatisfactory language and you have been warned,
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Jroo on October 09, 2014, 09:17:47 PM
Griff could stay at the Dogs.
@TonySheahan: @Dylan_2112 there is a strong suggestion Griffen told the club it's McCartney or him, so he sought a trade

Well, if McCartney gets sacked.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: WCarey18 on October 09, 2014, 09:18:56 PM
Quote from: Whippy on October 09, 2014, 09:14:30 PM
Quote from: Whipped on October 09, 2014, 09:14:03 PM
spastics
Whipped.

Quote from: Ringo on October 09, 2014, 09:17:01 PM
Careful whipped that is uncalled for and can lead to a ban - Unsatisfactory language and you have been warned,

And with a name like Whippy...  :-X :o
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: GoLions on October 09, 2014, 09:43:05 PM
http://www.news.com.au/sport/afl/allen-christensen-nominates-brisbane-as-preferred-destination-joel-patfull-to-be-traded/story-fndv7pj3-1227085565624
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Noz on October 09, 2014, 09:44:17 PM
Sooner or later everyone ends up in Sydney
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: tbagrocks on October 09, 2014, 09:46:13 PM
Whipped, Carey, same person? :o

Stop disturbing the peace!

Is it my fault Jeremy Cameron wants to join Adelaide?
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: meow meow on October 09, 2014, 09:57:25 PM
Word is that the AFL banned SYD from bringing players in because they were the club that Griffen requested to be traded to, after they offered him a big money contract. HOW?
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: WCarey18 on October 09, 2014, 10:04:19 PM
Quote from: meow meow on October 09, 2014, 09:57:25 PM
Word is that the AFL banned SYD from bringing players in because they were the club that Griffen requested to be traded to, after they offered him a big money contract. HOW?

Word is he was approached during the year. Though I heard it was only GWS that approached him.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Nige on October 09, 2014, 10:07:18 PM
Quote from: meow meow on October 09, 2014, 09:57:25 PM
Word is that the AFL banned SYD from bringing players in because they were the club that Griffen requested to be traded to, after they offered him a big money contract. HOW?
They're clearly looking out for him, doesn't deserve to be playing NEAFL.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Mailman the 2nd on October 09, 2014, 10:17:42 PM
Sydney wouldn't have been able to take Ryder or Griffen anyway considering Goodes didn't retire.

I mean we couldn't even keep Malceski...
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Samsturmfels on October 09, 2014, 10:32:51 PM
Not sure if already mentioned, anyway I heard SEN are saying that the pies will get Aish + Pick 5 for Beams....
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: WCarey18 on October 09, 2014, 10:40:59 PM
http://www.essendonfc.com.au/news/2014-10-09/howlett-signs-new-deal

Howlett has signed a new two-year deal. Guess he's off the trade table...
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: kilbluff1985 on October 09, 2014, 10:51:54 PM
Quote from: WCarey18 on October 09, 2014, 10:40:59 PM
http://www.essendonfc.com.au/news/2014-10-09/howlett-signs-new-deal

Howlett has signed a new two-year deal. Guess he's off the trade table...

Posted in Bombers board. 30 min earlier :P
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Spite on October 09, 2014, 10:52:20 PM
Quote from: WCarey18 on October 09, 2014, 10:40:59 PM
http://www.essendonfc.com.au/news/2014-10-09/howlett-signs-new-deal

Howlett has signed a new two-year deal. Guess he's off the trade table...

Well Hird is staying then it seems!
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: SydneyRox on October 09, 2014, 10:53:45 PM
http://www.gopetition.com/petitions/fairness-and-transparency-in-the-afl.html

If anyone is interested someone has created a petition to the AFL regarding the absurd ruling against the Swans today.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Noz on October 09, 2014, 10:57:04 PM
Quote from: SydneyRox on October 09, 2014, 10:53:45 PM
http://www.gopetition.com/petitions/fairness-and-transparency-in-the-afl.html

If anyone is interested someone has created a petition to the AFL regarding the absurd ruling against the Swans today.

Whoever made this petition surely can't be serious? Claiming that the way you have been treated is unfair?

You guys have been giving a generous living allowance to help accommodate for an expensive life in sydney but instead you buy a premiership with it?
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: My Chumps on October 09, 2014, 10:58:58 PM
Quote from: Noz on October 09, 2014, 10:57:04 PM
Quote from: SydneyRox on October 09, 2014, 10:53:45 PM
http://www.gopetition.com/petitions/fairness-and-transparency-in-the-afl.html

If anyone is interested someone has created a petition to the AFL regarding the absurd ruling against the Swans today.

Whoever made this petition surely can't be serious? Claiming that the way you have been treated is unfair?

You guys have been giving a generous living allowance to help accommodate for an expensive life in sydney but instead you buy a premiership with it?
"Buy a premiership"

last I checked we lost, lol
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Noz on October 09, 2014, 11:04:34 PM
Quote from: My Chumps on October 09, 2014, 10:58:58 PM
Quote from: Noz on October 09, 2014, 10:57:04 PM
Quote from: SydneyRox on October 09, 2014, 10:53:45 PM
http://www.gopetition.com/petitions/fairness-and-transparency-in-the-afl.html

If anyone is interested someone has created a petition to the AFL regarding the absurd ruling against the Swans today.

Whoever made this petition surely can't be serious? Claiming that the way you have been treated is unfair?

You guys have been giving a generous living allowance to help accommodate for an expensive life in sydney but instead you buy a premiership with it?
"Buy a premiership"

last I checked we lost, lol

You have Franklin for 10 years, Tippet for X amount of years you can win the premiership for the next 5 years
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Mailman the 2nd on October 09, 2014, 11:13:29 PM
Quote from: Noz on October 09, 2014, 10:57:04 PM
Quote from: SydneyRox on October 09, 2014, 10:53:45 PM
http://www.gopetition.com/petitions/fairness-and-transparency-in-the-afl.html

If anyone is interested someone has created a petition to the AFL regarding the absurd ruling against the Swans today.

Whoever made this petition surely can't be serious? Claiming that the way you have been treated is unfair?

You guys have been giving a generous living allowance to help accommodate for an expensive life in sydney but instead you buy a premiership with it?

What do you mean "instead"?

Each player was paid 9.8% more, there's nothing else to it. That's not "buying a premiership".
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Mat0369 on October 09, 2014, 11:27:58 PM
The ruling against the Swans is a joke, I don't understand how you can place a ruling that a team can not gain a player via trade or free agency when they have not broken any rules.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: kilbluff1985 on October 09, 2014, 11:36:24 PM
yeah so if a player requests a trade what happens?
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Mailman the 2nd on October 09, 2014, 11:37:33 PM
Quote from: Whipped on October 09, 2014, 11:36:24 PM
yeah so if a player requests a trade what happens?

They can't come to Sydney. That's (possibly) why Patful is headed to GWS.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Mat0369 on October 09, 2014, 11:40:43 PM
Sydney can trade for picks. So they can trade a player out, but only receive draft picks in return
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: kilbluff1985 on October 09, 2014, 11:44:33 PM
Quote from: Mailman the 2nd on October 09, 2014, 11:37:33 PM
Quote from: Whipped on October 09, 2014, 11:36:24 PM
yeah so if a player requests a trade what happens?

They can't come to Sydney. That's (possibly) why Patful is headed to GWS.

i mean what if a Sydney player requests a trade

if one has family concerns and they want to go home but cant i think players association should get involved
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: WCarey18 on October 09, 2014, 11:46:45 PM
Quote from: Whipped on October 09, 2014, 11:36:24 PM
yeah so if a player requests a trade what happens?

Well, by  my understanding, if a player is traded into Sydney for the next two years, then Sydney forfeits COLA immediately, putting their cap in serious danger.

Its two years because they are currently in the process of phasing COLA out, and will be free of it in the 2017 season.

Interesting stance by the AFL.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Mr.Craig on October 09, 2014, 11:49:21 PM
Might have to loan Buddy out for a few games a year.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Mat0369 on October 09, 2014, 11:50:19 PM
Quote from: Whipped on October 09, 2014, 11:44:33 PM
i mean what if a Sydney player requests a trade

if one has family concerns and they want to go home but cant i think players association should get involved

Quote from: Mat0369 on October 09, 2014, 11:40:43 PM
Sydney can trade for picks. So they can trade a player out, but only receive draft picks in return
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Justin Bieber on October 09, 2014, 11:50:45 PM
I love this ruling. Sydney are cheating cows  and this ruling is delightful :)
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: My Chumps on October 09, 2014, 11:52:59 PM
I just cannot fathom how we are now being punished for something that the AFL implemented.

I'll be pretty despondent if this is why we've missed out on Patful and Ryan Griffen.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Mailman the 2nd on October 10, 2014, 12:07:59 AM
Quote from: Whipped on October 09, 2014, 11:44:33 PM
Quote from: Mailman the 2nd on October 09, 2014, 11:37:33 PM
Quote from: Whipped on October 09, 2014, 11:36:24 PM
yeah so if a player requests a trade what happens?

They can't come to Sydney. That's (possibly) why Patful is headed to GWS.

i mean what if a Sydney player requests a trade

if one has family concerns and they want to go home but cant i think players association should get involved

Yeah Sydney would only be able to recieve picks.

Players Association is already all over it
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Ziplock on October 10, 2014, 12:16:34 AM
If the intention of this rule is to stop players from coming to sydney and receiving COLA over the next couple of year (which I think it is), then the AFL surely could have just implemented a rule saying players traded in don't receive COLA.

If it isn't that, then Sydney are being penalised for having followed the rules the AFL set out.

If you disagree with that you're either a moron or unimaginably blinded by bias.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Justin Bieber on October 10, 2014, 12:28:38 AM
Quote from: My Chumps on October 09, 2014, 11:52:59 PM
I just cannot fathom how we are now being punished for something that the AFL implemented.

I'll be pretty despondent if this is why we've missed out on Patful and Ryan Griffen.
If Sydney got Patful, Griffen and kept Malceski, oh the uproar. I know I would give them shower all over social media
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Mailman the 2nd on October 10, 2014, 12:31:00 AM
Quote from: whatlez on October 10, 2014, 12:28:38 AM
Quote from: My Chumps on October 09, 2014, 11:52:59 PM
I just cannot fathom how we are now being punished for something that the AFL implemented.

I'll be pretty despondent if this is why we've missed out on Patful and Ryan Griffen.
If Sydney got Patful, Griffen and kept Malceski, oh the uproar. I know I would give them shower all over social media

You realise they wouldn't have 9.8% on their contracts right? #clueless
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Justin Bieber on October 10, 2014, 12:35:14 AM
Quote from: Mailman the 2nd on October 10, 2014, 12:31:00 AM
Quote from: whatlez on October 10, 2014, 12:28:38 AM
Quote from: My Chumps on October 09, 2014, 11:52:59 PM
I just cannot fathom how we are now being punished for something that the AFL implemented.

I'll be pretty despondent if this is why we've missed out on Patful and Ryan Griffen.
If Sydney got Patful, Griffen and kept Malceski, oh the uproar. I know I would give them shower all over social media

You realise they wouldn't have 9.8% on their contracts right? #clueless
Lol the amount of shower Sydney get on Facebook is enough. Calling me clueless is amusing.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Mr.Craig on October 10, 2014, 01:06:29 AM
Just throwing it out there but this feels like it's Buddy related. The AFL seemed pretty keen for him to land at GWS, then Sydney came in to the picture. Does anyone think this is just some petty revenge? I know they could have blocked the trade and screwed Sydney that way, but still...
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Ricochet on October 10, 2014, 01:07:21 AM
Not sure Craigy but do get the feeling there is a looooot more to this than we know
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Spite on October 10, 2014, 01:10:37 AM
Quote from: Mr.Craig on October 10, 2014, 01:06:29 AM
Just throwing it out there but this feels like it's Buddy related. The AFL seemed pretty keen for him to land at GWS, then Sydney came in to the picture. Does anyone think this is just some petty revenge? I know they could have blocked the trade and screwed Sydney that way, but still...

Agreed, they should have blocked the trade back then, now they are just digging a hole
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: kilbluff1985 on October 10, 2014, 01:12:48 AM
i often wonder how much stuff happens we don't find out about
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Mr.Craig on October 10, 2014, 01:15:20 AM
Quote from: Whipped on October 10, 2014, 01:12:48 AM
i often wonder how much stuff happens we don't find out about

I'll go with lots.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Mat0369 on October 10, 2014, 01:16:49 AM
They realise the fact that Sydney gave him such a long contract means it will hurt their long term future? 5 years into this 9 year deal the Swans could have the shell of the player we see today and still have to pay him out, even if he sits in the reserves.

You also can't have the COLA in place then complain when a team gives out a ridiculous long term contract to get the big market free agent while also having to clear room off their books to get him. Also if they want to phase out the COLA, you have to look at the kids that are freshly drafted and move out their or the rookie listed players. They are the ones that will suffer out of this and it will hurt them more financially, especially with their long term future. What the AFL should do with the COLA is that rookie contracted players and rookie listed players either get their housing funded by the club or they can receive extra payments for rent. Much like the house the GWS boys lived in when they first moved over. It means you can remove it from the COLA and still make it fair to the guys that it will actually effect the most.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: kilbluff1985 on October 10, 2014, 01:20:40 AM
the Buddy deal should never have been approved due to the length of it
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Mr.Craig on October 10, 2014, 01:23:37 AM
Did Sydney know COLA was being phased out when they did the deal? I can't remember.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Mat0369 on October 10, 2014, 01:36:54 AM
Quote from: Mr.Craig on October 10, 2014, 01:23:37 AM
Did Sydney know COLA was being phased out when they did the deal? I can't remember.

From memory, nope. It happened afterwards when teams had a crack at them for signing Buddy and the unfair advantage that COLA caused.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Justin Bieber on October 10, 2014, 01:48:14 AM
Yeah Sydney shot themselves in the foot. The whole Buddy, Tippett, wanting Frawley, but were forbidden to bid for him. Then they probably said we can afford Griffin, oh and Patful. We could also keep Malceski if we really wanted to. Then the AFL was like, nope, Sydney you aren't Chelsea or Man Utd. We're not rigging the sport to help Sydney out anymore.


Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Justin Bieber on October 10, 2014, 01:57:27 AM
I don't think one can argue that if Sydney weren't on the top of the ladder year after year then their membership, crowd attendence and general popularity of AFL in Sydney will have them travelling better than the Brisbane Lions. If Sydney have had the 7 year run of the Lions then I doubt 15 people would attend a home game. Thus making the AFL give them several advantages to keep the popularity of the sport up in the state.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: tbagrocks on October 10, 2014, 02:42:56 AM
Yet, they allow the best defender from a bottom club to join the Premier who have to give up ........

Absolutely nothing to get him? :o

Do they even listen to themselves think over at AFL house?

I blame that idiot Dumbetriou as usual
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: kilbluff1985 on October 10, 2014, 02:44:27 AM
Quote from: tbagrocks on October 10, 2014, 02:42:56 AM

I blame that idiot Dumbetriou as usual

really ? nobody knew :P
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Mr.Craig on October 10, 2014, 02:49:46 AM
It's the first I'm hearing of it...
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: JBs-Hawks on October 10, 2014, 07:41:01 AM
Quote from: tbagrocks on October 10, 2014, 02:42:56 AM
Yet, they allow the best defender from a bottom club to join the Premier who have to give up ........

Absolutely nothing to get him? :o

Do they even listen to themselves think over at AFL house?

I blame that idiot Dumbetriou as usual

We gave up Buddy, get over it.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Nige on October 10, 2014, 08:13:32 AM
Quote from: JBs-Hawks on October 10, 2014, 07:41:01 AM
Quote from: tbagrocks on October 10, 2014, 02:42:56 AM
Yet, they allow the best defender from a bottom club to join the Premier who have to give up ........

Absolutely nothing to get him? :o

Do they even listen to themselves think over at AFL house?

I blame that idiot Dumbetriou as usual

We gave up Buddy, get over it.
Asking tbag to get over something is like asking for the moon.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Nige on October 10, 2014, 09:12:59 AM
So apparently Melbourne, Collingwood and Geelong are working together for that three-way deal for Clark, Lumumba and Varcoe.

Eagles pulled out of the race for Varcoe but North still interested.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Cambo on October 10, 2014, 09:37:06 AM
Quote from: Nige on October 10, 2014, 09:12:59 AM
So apparently Melbourne, Collingwood and Geelong are working together for that three-way deal for Clark, Lumumba and Varcoe.

Eagles pulled out of the race for Varcoe but North still interested.

Dont understand why Collingwood want another small man in the team.  I can understand why they are happy to move Lumumba but they need to get something decient in return (he was 4th in the B&F)...
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Ricochet on October 10, 2014, 09:50:50 AM
Lions will continue to play hardball by the looks

@JLeppitsch: BL fans. Dont listen to those that have plans to destabilize us. Kids will not be traded. BTW Did you hear pendles wants out. It's that easy
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: kilbluff1985 on October 10, 2014, 09:52:17 AM
lol
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Ringo on October 10, 2014, 10:05:10 AM
Why not start another rumour its easy as Leppa tweeted.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Ricochet on October 10, 2014, 10:12:31 AM
I wouldn't, a lot of the ridiculous rumours have come true this year lol. Beams, Clark, Frawley, Western Bulldogs player/coach rift.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Ricochet on October 10, 2014, 10:17:42 AM
reports are Brendon McCartney is at the club atm to resign
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Nige on October 10, 2014, 10:27:59 AM
Quote from: Ricochet on October 10, 2014, 10:17:42 AM
reports are Brendon McCartney is at the club atm to resign
It's never a quiet year on the coach front.

Still Gold Coast position up for grabs and who knows about the Essendon saga.

Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Nige on October 10, 2014, 10:30:54 AM
Yeah, they reckon he's not going to leave the kennel as coach as he'll resign.

Captain and coach both gone now? Wowee.

Surely Bomber Thompson is a candidate, heard he wants to stay in Melbourne.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Jroo on October 10, 2014, 10:32:01 AM
Quote from: Nige on October 10, 2014, 10:30:54 AM
Yeah, they reckon he's not going to leave the kennel as coach as he'll resign.

Captain and coach both gone now? Wowee.

Surely Bomber Thompson is a candidate, heard he wants to stay in Melbourne.
Griff may stay if the coach leave, though?
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Nige on October 10, 2014, 10:37:32 AM
Quote from: JROO8 on October 10, 2014, 10:32:01 AM
Quote from: Nige on October 10, 2014, 10:30:54 AM
Yeah, they reckon he's not going to leave the kennel as coach as he'll resign.

Captain and coach both gone now? Wowee.

Surely Bomber Thompson is a candidate, heard he wants to stay in Melbourne.
Griff may stay if the coach leave, though?
Dunno tbh.

Definitely going to be an interesting second week of the trade period.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Ricochet on October 10, 2014, 11:32:39 AM
Cooney having a medical at North today. Reports are a 4th rounder will get it done
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: T Dog on October 10, 2014, 11:35:26 AM
Quote from: Ricochet on October 10, 2014, 11:32:39 AM
Cooney having a medical at North today. Reports are a 4th rounder will get it done


Coondog to Coonroo?
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: kilbluff1985 on October 10, 2014, 11:35:51 AM
Quote from: Ricochet on October 10, 2014, 11:32:39 AM
Cooney having a medical at North today. Reports are a 4th rounder will get it done

wtf 4th round ?
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Ricochet on October 10, 2014, 11:37:29 AM
Quote from: Whipped on October 10, 2014, 11:35:51 AM
Quote from: Ricochet on October 10, 2014, 11:32:39 AM
Cooney having a medical at North today. Reports are a 4th rounder will get it done

wtf 4th round ?
? he's old and injury prone. They won't pay much for him man
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: SydneyRox on October 10, 2014, 11:37:44 AM
Quote from: JROO8 on October 10, 2014, 10:32:01 AM
Quote from: Nige on October 10, 2014, 10:30:54 AM
Yeah, they reckon he's not going to leave the kennel as coach as he'll resign.

Captain and coach both gone now? Wowee.

Surely Bomber Thompson is a candidate, heard he wants to stay in Melbourne.
Griff may stay if the coach leave, though?

I would push him if I were them, it sends the wrong message to the rest of the playing group if they sack the coach and beg him to stay.

The traderadio boys have the best plan, trade him to GWS, include a pick and get Boyd.

Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: kilbluff1985 on October 10, 2014, 11:37:54 AM
Quote from: Ricochet on October 10, 2014, 11:37:29 AM
Quote from: Whipped on October 10, 2014, 11:35:51 AM
Quote from: Ricochet on October 10, 2014, 11:32:39 AM
Cooney having a medical at North today. Reports are a 4th rounder will get it done

wtf 4th round ?
? he's old and injury prone. They won't pay much for him man

i know but i was thinking like 2nd round
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: SydneyRox on October 10, 2014, 11:38:50 AM
Quote from: Ricochet on October 10, 2014, 11:37:29 AM
Quote from: Whipped on October 10, 2014, 11:35:51 AM
Quote from: Ricochet on October 10, 2014, 11:32:39 AM
Cooney having a medical at North today. Reports are a 4th rounder will get it done

wtf 4th round ?
? he's old and injury prone. They won't pay much for him man

4th round too much IMO.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Ricochet on October 10, 2014, 11:39:56 AM
Quote from: Whipped on October 10, 2014, 11:37:54 AM
Quote from: Ricochet on October 10, 2014, 11:37:29 AM
Quote from: Whipped on October 10, 2014, 11:35:51 AM
Quote from: Ricochet on October 10, 2014, 11:32:39 AM
Cooney having a medical at North today. Reports are a 4th rounder will get it done

wtf 4th round ?
? he's old and injury prone. They won't pay much for him man

i know but i was thinking like 2nd round
lol no way man. At very very best Cooney would a 3rd
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: LF on October 10, 2014, 11:44:32 AM
http://www.foxsports.com.au/afl/afl-premiership/brendan-mccartney-finished-as-western-bulldogs-coach-after-crisis-talks/story-e6frf3e3-1227086125964

This came up on my FB news feed
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: WCarey18 on October 10, 2014, 11:45:26 AM
Quote from: Ricochet on October 10, 2014, 11:32:39 AM
Cooney having a medical at North today. Reports are a 4th rounder will get it done

:o Deal.

We'll also take Griffin for Greenwood and pick 16.

Kangaroos 2015: The Lost Dogs Home.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: elephants on October 10, 2014, 11:45:39 AM
Quote from: Ricochet on October 10, 2014, 11:39:56 AM
Quote from: Whipped on October 10, 2014, 11:37:54 AM
Quote from: Ricochet on October 10, 2014, 11:37:29 AM
Quote from: Whipped on October 10, 2014, 11:35:51 AM
Quote from: Ricochet on October 10, 2014, 11:32:39 AM
Cooney having a medical at North today. Reports are a 4th rounder will get it done

wtf 4th round ?
? he's old and injury prone. They won't pay much for him man

i know but i was thinking like 2nd round
lol no way man. At very very best Cooney would a 3rd

Haha yeah, if Greenwood is worth a second then Cooney is definitely a fourth.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: LF on October 10, 2014, 11:57:19 AM
Brendan McCartney has resigned
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: elephants on October 10, 2014, 11:58:25 AM
Quote from: LF on October 10, 2014, 11:57:19 AM
Brendan McCartney has resigned

Re-signed or resigned? Massive difference ;)
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: shaker on October 10, 2014, 11:59:41 AM
McCartney gone looks like Griffen will be staying I would say , at least Griffen had the courage to come out and say it was the coach that led him to want out
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: SydneyRox on October 10, 2014, 12:04:37 PM
Quote from: shaker on October 10, 2014, 11:59:41 AM
McCartney gone looks like Griffen will be staying I would say , at least Griffen had the courage to come out and say it was the coach that led him to want out

I think it really sends the wrong message to let him stay.

Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: WCarey18 on October 10, 2014, 12:05:14 PM
Quote from: shaker on October 10, 2014, 11:59:41 AM
McCartney gone looks like Griffen will be staying I would say , at least Griffen had the courage to come out and say it was the coach that led him to want out

Hardly. If anything, it looks like they are still going to lose them both regardless of Maccas resignation!
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Ricochet on October 10, 2014, 12:05:42 PM
Quote from: elephants on October 10, 2014, 11:58:25 AM
Quote from: LF on October 10, 2014, 11:57:19 AM
Brendan McCartney has resigned

Re-signed or resigned? Massive difference ;)
lol yeh was confused there too

So yeh he has resigned. Wonder if Griff stays now
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Mat0369 on October 10, 2014, 12:10:57 PM
Very very very bad move by the Dogs. Bomber won't go there either. McCartney is one of his former assistants and was loved and respected by the Geelong boys. That was one of the reasons Matty Scarlett, Cam Mooney, Ben Graham and Joel Corey were all working with the Dogs
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: shaker on October 10, 2014, 12:12:18 PM
Quote from: SydneyRox on October 10, 2014, 12:04:37 PM
Quote from: shaker on October 10, 2014, 11:59:41 AM
McCartney gone looks like Griffen will be staying I would say , at least Griffen had the courage to come out and say it was the coach that led him to want out

I think it really sends the wrong message to let him stay.


Think that this shows the people in charge were not listening to what players were saying , think him leaving shows they want to keep there players
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: elephants on October 10, 2014, 12:13:33 PM
Quote from: Mat0369 on October 10, 2014, 12:10:57 PM
Very very very bad move by the Dogs. Bomber won't go there either. McCartney is one of his former assistants and was loved and respected by the Geelong boys. That was one of the reasons Matty Scarlett, Cam Mooney, Ben Graham and Joel Corey were all working with the Dogs

Couldn't agree more. The deal they were apparently being thrown for Griffen was mint. Should've taken it. No player is bigger than the club.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Nige on October 10, 2014, 12:29:49 PM
Quote from: elephants on October 10, 2014, 12:13:33 PM
No player is bigger than the club.
Not anymore...  :-\
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Ricochet on October 10, 2014, 12:30:39 PM
Clubs will always consider a playing group's opinion. There's nothing new here
Same thing happened at Adelaide this year
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Nige on October 10, 2014, 12:31:46 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on October 10, 2014, 12:30:39 PM
Clubs will always consider a playing group's opinion. There's nothing new here
Same thing happened at Adelaide this year
Which is pretty much why Hird is still in the job.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: elephants on October 10, 2014, 12:39:11 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on October 10, 2014, 12:30:39 PM
Clubs will always consider a playing group's opinion. There's nothing new here
Same thing happened at Adelaide this year

Fair point. But in this scenario, what are the Dogs thinking. Griffen has had one elite season, now recurring back issues has stopped him doing anything good this year. What they were being offered basically sets up their rebuild and gets rid of disgruntled older players that were just stifling the development of kids.

If I supported the Dogs, I'd be sooooo pissed right now.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Ricochet on October 10, 2014, 12:40:52 PM
Quote from: elephants on October 10, 2014, 12:39:11 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on October 10, 2014, 12:30:39 PM
Clubs will always consider a playing group's opinion. There's nothing new here
Same thing happened at Adelaide this year

Fair point. But in this scenario, what are the Dogs thinking. Griffen has had one elite season, now recurring back issues has stopped him doing anything good this year. What they were being offered basically sets up their rebuild and gets rid of disgruntled older players that were just stifling the development of kids.

If I supported the Dogs, I'd be sooooo pissed right now.
Yeh big time man, if GWS are offering 4 and 7 or something with Boyd then Bullies would be stupid not to take it.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: shaker on October 10, 2014, 12:48:28 PM
If they get rid of Griffen now it makes no sense losing the coach , agree a very bad day for the Doggies  :o
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Noz on October 10, 2014, 12:52:33 PM
The board need to make a decision and get rid of Griff as well.

If he doesn't want to be at the club then fine let him go players can't control the club
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Toga on October 10, 2014, 01:14:44 PM
Quote from: JROO8 on October 10, 2014, 10:32:01 AM
Griff may stay if the coach leave, though?

Bridges have been burned.. So not sure he will be staying either way
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Jroo on October 10, 2014, 02:05:50 PM
Another deal
@traderadio: DONE DEAL: Shane Casley confirms LIVE on air that Joel Patfull will be traded to GWS for pick 21 #NABTradeRadio
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Ricochet on October 10, 2014, 02:12:12 PM
Another trade! yeooooow



haha but seriously, good trade for both teams there
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: kilbluff1985 on October 10, 2014, 02:12:12 PM
Huge news for GWS
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Jroo on October 10, 2014, 02:14:02 PM
Yeah just ask Ringo, Patful is really underrated, he'll be great. GWS don't even need that pick, so good deal for both parties. Should help the Lions get Christo.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Ricochet on October 10, 2014, 02:15:34 PM
Yeh it should, but still not sure how Brissie get Christo when GC can offer up a first rounder
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Nige on October 10, 2014, 02:17:25 PM
Finally another deal.

Has Christo nominated a club of choice?
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: ADEZ on October 10, 2014, 02:20:39 PM
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BzjeWXGCUAA74b_.jpg)

Everybody does seem to look good in GWS colours :o
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: My Chumps on October 10, 2014, 02:21:27 PM
Sort of a strange decision by Patful, isn't it?
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Mat0369 on October 10, 2014, 02:23:22 PM
His post football career is going to be in Sydney which is why he requested the trade. I got no idea what it is, but that's what I read
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: GoLions on October 10, 2014, 02:27:50 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on October 10, 2014, 02:15:34 PM
Yeh it should, but still not sure how Brissie get Christo when GC can offer up a first rounder
Suns refused to offer first rounder IIRC

Quote from: Nige on October 10, 2014, 02:17:25 PM
Finally another deal.

Has Christo nominated a club of choice?
Brisbane

Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: GoLions on October 10, 2014, 02:28:53 PM
Quote from: GoLions on October 09, 2014, 09:43:05 PM
http://www.news.com.au/sport/afl/allen-christensen-nominates-brisbane-as-preferred-destination-joel-patfull-to-be-traded/story-fndv7pj3-1227085565624
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Ricochet on October 10, 2014, 02:33:49 PM
Quote from: GoLions on October 10, 2014, 02:27:50 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on October 10, 2014, 02:15:34 PM
Yeh it should, but still not sure how Brissie get Christo when GC can offer up a first rounder
Suns refused to offer first rounder IIRC
Oh really? wow. Ok cool thanks man
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: kilbluff1985 on October 10, 2014, 02:35:41 PM
If they get Griff they will be really strong next year
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: SydneyRox on October 10, 2014, 02:35:52 PM
I would have though 15 for Christensen is a little overs as well
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: My Chumps on October 10, 2014, 02:44:18 PM
Balm saying now that they'll accept #21 from Brisbane if offered.

Sad to see Christo go from my second team. He's always been one of my favourites  :'(
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Ricochet on October 10, 2014, 02:44:49 PM
Wow bargain for Brissie
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Jroo on October 10, 2014, 02:46:37 PM
Wow, pick 21 is a bargain for Christo.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: elephants on October 10, 2014, 02:47:28 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on October 10, 2014, 02:44:49 PM
Wow bargain for Brissie
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Ricochet on October 10, 2014, 02:48:20 PM
Balme also said that Hunt more likely to move than stay
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: SydneyRox on October 10, 2014, 02:48:25 PM
Brisbane looking like being the big winners this year after getting @ss r@ped last year with so many guys leaving

Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: kilbluff1985 on October 10, 2014, 02:48:43 PM
Surely they are already on the phone to the cats to confirm they crazy if it's not done today
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Mailman the 2nd on October 10, 2014, 02:49:54 PM
Everyone aboard the Brisbane hype train choo choo
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: GoLions on October 10, 2014, 02:53:19 PM
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on October 10, 2014, 02:48:43 PM
Surely they are already on the phone to the cats to confirm they crazy if it's not done today
Depends on the Beams situation. Pies might want 21 to go with 5 and 25, or 21 instead of 25, who knows.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: LF on October 10, 2014, 02:58:18 PM
Damian Barrett        ✔ @barrettdamian
Follow
Bombers have managed to talk Winderlich into a 180. Now looking at staying, after telling club two weeks ago he was out @traderadio
11:41 AM - 10 Oct 2014
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Ricochet on October 10, 2014, 02:59:41 PM
also from Damien Barrett on Dahlhaus and another club

"He was giving it consideration. I don't expect he would've gone down same path. He's far from happy."
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Nige on October 10, 2014, 03:25:37 PM
Can Dahl please come to the Tiges? Make him an offer Richmond!
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: meow meow on October 10, 2014, 03:37:45 PM
Quote from: Nige on October 10, 2014, 03:25:37 PM
Can Dahl please come to the Tiges?

(http://www.tacomaworld.com/gallery/data/500/grumpy-cat-no1.jpg)
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Grazz on October 10, 2014, 04:08:06 PM
Brisbane not budging from picks 5 and 25 says Peter Schwab. Fair enough to stand your ground Brissy, picks 5 and 25 in the draft will get a couple of good youngen's.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: GoLions on October 10, 2014, 04:15:29 PM
Quote from: Grazz on October 10, 2014, 04:08:06 PM
Brisbane not budging from picks 5 and 25 says Peter Schwab. Fair enough to stand your ground Brissy, picks 5 and 25 in the draft will get a couple of good youngen's.
Very happy with this :)
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Grazz on October 10, 2014, 04:30:26 PM
Quote from: GoLions on October 10, 2014, 04:15:29 PM
Quote from: Grazz on October 10, 2014, 04:08:06 PM
Brisbane not budging from picks 5 and 25 says Peter Schwab. Fair enough to stand your ground Brissy, picks 5 and 25 in the draft will get a couple of good youngen's.
Very happy with this :)

Reckon most of ya's would be mate, club has traded well this year after last years disaster they endured. Those two picks could snare a couple of good future prospects or better yet.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Ricochet on October 10, 2014, 04:47:35 PM
Tom Lonergan is staying at the Cats
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Jroo on October 10, 2014, 04:54:05 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on October 10, 2014, 04:47:35 PM
Tom Lonergan is staying at the Cats
Big call, by Tom  :o
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Ringo on October 10, 2014, 05:06:39 PM
Nrisbane now finalising due diligence on Christo and will offer pick 21 - Peter Scwab has said also that if 5 and 25 do not get deal done for Beams then we will go into the draft with those picks.

Means we have the Cash to get beams for next to nothing next year via PSD.  Adsmire the club for refusing to budge on youngsters after last year.

Patful advised the club he had after football business interests in Sydney and would not be adverse to a trade to one of the Sydney clubs to finish his career.  Sad to see him go but see it as rewarding his wishes for good service to the club.
As I said very under rated player who rarely has a bad game and solid in taking the 3rd tall and playing well above his height.  His experience will be good for the Giants.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: SydneyRox on October 10, 2014, 05:07:30 PM
Quote from: Ringo on October 10, 2014, 05:06:39 PM
Nrisbane now finalising due diligence on Christo and will offer pick 41 - Peter Scwab has said also that if 5 and 25 do not get deal done for Beams then we will go into the draft with those picks.

Means we have the Cash to get beams for next to nothing next year via PSD.  Adsmire the club for refusing to budge on youngsters after last year

was that a typo??
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: GoLions on October 10, 2014, 05:08:19 PM
Quote from: SydneyRox on October 10, 2014, 05:07:30 PM
Quote from: Ringo on October 10, 2014, 05:06:39 PM
Nrisbane now finalising due diligence on Christo and will offer pick 41 - Peter Scwab has said also that if 5 and 25 do not get deal done for Beams then we will go into the draft with those picks.

Means we have the Cash to get beams for next to nothing next year via PSD.  Adsmire the club for refusing to budge on youngsters after last year

was that a typo??
Yes :P

(http://i.gyazo.com/e8d59850a337d57fc52fac3dbe2941ca.png)
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Ringo on October 10, 2014, 05:11:58 PM
What typo fixed - Accidentally hit post button before I finished and checked.  added the piece on Patful.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Ricochet on October 10, 2014, 05:34:33 PM
Strong words from the Pies

http://www.collingwoodfc.com.au/news/2014-10-10/pies-lions-cease-negotiations

Negotiations between the Collingwood Football Club and the Brisbane Lions over Dayne Beams ceased at 5pm on Friday evening.

Out of respect to Dayne, Collingwood worked as hard as it could to construct an equitable deal with the Lions who pursued the contracted 24 year-old All-Australian midfielder but, ultimately, didn't value him as Collingwood does.

As everyone is aware, Dayne requested a trade to Brisbane for personal reasons, something Collingwood agreed to consider as long as the outcome returned appropriate compensation.

Unfortunately, this was not forthcoming.Collingwood's position from the outset was that a good player and an early draft pick was a fair return, although the club did consider the possibility of a combination of draft picks. Even this failed to produce a solution.

Now that negotiations with Brisbane have ceased, Collingwood is free to pursue other opportunities involving players and picks. The club remains open to offers from other clubs for Dayne, if that is his wish.

If not, at the conclusion of the trade period the club will look to sit down with Dayne to prepare for the 2015 season.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: GoLions on October 10, 2014, 05:37:01 PM
GL;HF Collingwood
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Jroo on October 10, 2014, 05:57:33 PM
 ???
@ClarkyHeraldSun: Another trade bombshell @superfooty
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Ricochet on October 10, 2014, 05:57:40 PM
mickwarner ‏@heraldsunmick  13s14 seconds ago
@ClarkyHeraldSun with a Tigerland trade bomb @superfooty

???
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Toga on October 10, 2014, 05:58:53 PM
:o
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Ricochet on October 10, 2014, 05:58:57 PM
Jack Trengove could be a Tiger  :o


Link
http://www.news.com.au/sport/afl/jack-trengove-could-be-traded-to-richmond-from-melbourne/story-fndv8t7m-1227086775552
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Mr.Craig on October 10, 2014, 05:59:43 PM
Hmmm.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: SydneyRox on October 10, 2014, 06:02:12 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on October 10, 2014, 05:34:33 PM
Strong words from the Pies

http://www.collingwoodfc.com.au/news/2014-10-10/pies-lions-cease-negotiations

Negotiations between the Collingwood Football Club and the Brisbane Lions over Dayne Beams ceased at 5pm on Friday evening.

Out of respect to Dayne, Collingwood worked as hard as it could to construct an equitable deal with the Lions who pursued the contracted 24 year-old All-Australian midfielder but, ultimately, didn't value him as Collingwood does.

As everyone is aware, Dayne requested a trade to Brisbane for personal reasons, something Collingwood agreed to consider as long as the outcome returned appropriate compensation.

Unfortunately, this was not forthcoming.Collingwood's position from the outset was that a good player and an early draft pick was a fair return, although the club did consider the possibility of a combination of draft picks. Even this failed to produce a solution.

Now that negotiations with Brisbane have ceased, Collingwood is free to pursue other opportunities involving players and picks. The club remains open to offers from other clubs for Dayne, if that is his wish.

If not, at the conclusion of the trade period the club will look to sit down with Dayne to prepare for the 2015 season.

(http://servingnorthcounty.com/files/2010/10/Cut-Your-Nose-Off-Short-Sale-Vista-Shadowridge-2.jpg)
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Jroo on October 10, 2014, 06:03:21 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on October 10, 2014, 05:58:57 PM
Jack Trengove could be a Tiger  :o


Link
http://www.news.com.au/sport/afl/jack-trengove-could-be-traded-to-richmond-from-melbourne/story-fndv8t7m-1227086775552
Nice.  8)
"The Demons are considering swapping the midfielder and selection No. 23 for the Tigers
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: SydneyRox on October 10, 2014, 06:04:56 PM
Quote from: JROO8 on October 10, 2014, 06:03:21 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on October 10, 2014, 05:58:57 PM
Jack Trengove could be a Tiger  :o


Link
http://www.news.com.au/sport/afl/jack-trengove-could-be-traded-to-richmond-from-melbourne/story-fndv8t7m-1227086775552
Nice.  8)
"The Demons are considering swapping the midfielder and selection No. 23 for the Tigers

Would you want him?

:o
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Ricochet on October 10, 2014, 06:05:42 PM
Quote from: SydneyRox on October 10, 2014, 06:04:56 PM
Quote from: JROO8 on October 10, 2014, 06:03:21 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on October 10, 2014, 05:58:57 PM
Jack Trengove could be a Tiger  :o


Link
http://www.news.com.au/sport/afl/jack-trengove-could-be-traded-to-richmond-from-melbourne/story-fndv8t7m-1227086775552
Nice.  8)
"The Demons are considering swapping the midfielder and selection No. 23 for the Tigers

Would you want him?

:o
Former #2 draft pick who obviously has some talent. I would jump at him if I was Richmond
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Toga on October 10, 2014, 06:05:56 PM
I wouldn't say no to him, obviously got a lot of talent.. Just depends on who the Tiges think they might be able to get at Pick 12 as opposed to Pick 23
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: SydneyRox on October 10, 2014, 06:06:40 PM
Seems to be a lot of former #2 picks who havent done much floating round....
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: WCarey18 on October 10, 2014, 06:10:47 PM
Deal is reported to be Jack Trengove + pick 23 FOR Pick 12.

http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/jack-trengove-could-be-traded-to-richmond-from-melbourne/story-fni5f9jb-1227086775552
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Jroo on October 10, 2014, 06:12:56 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on October 10, 2014, 06:05:42 PM
Quote from: SydneyRox on October 10, 2014, 06:04:56 PM
Quote from: JROO8 on October 10, 2014, 06:03:21 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on October 10, 2014, 05:58:57 PM
Jack Trengove could be a Tiger  :o


Link
http://www.news.com.au/sport/afl/jack-trengove-could-be-traded-to-richmond-from-melbourne/story-fndv8t7m-1227086775552
Nice.  8)
"The Demons are considering swapping the midfielder and selection No. 23 for the Tigers

Would you want him?

:o
Former #2 draft pick who obviously has some talent. I would jump at him if I was Richmond
Yeah has shown a bit in his short career. Injuries have really affected him in the last few years, so a fresh start would be beneficial for him IMO.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: ADEZ on October 10, 2014, 06:13:29 PM
Good deal for both clubs IMO, Trengove clearly has the talent and could use a fresh start considering how young he had to carry the burden of captaincy and it would place Melbourne nicely with picks 2, 3 and 12
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Noz on October 10, 2014, 06:14:45 PM
Why do Melbourne have to add pick 23?
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Ricochet on October 10, 2014, 06:15:03 PM
Yeh and although it didn't work out, his experience as a captain and leedership would be invaluable
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: elephants on October 10, 2014, 06:18:24 PM
Monumental steal for the Tiges imo
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Nige on October 10, 2014, 06:21:37 PM
Personally have never been a huge Jack Trengove fan, but the dude does have serious talent and was a No.2 pick for good reason.

Not sure how I feel about giving up #12 but I guess that's what it's gonna take.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Purple 77 on October 10, 2014, 06:45:00 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on October 10, 2014, 05:58:57 PM
Jack Trengove could be a Tiger  :o


Link
http://www.news.com.au/sport/afl/jack-trengove-could-be-traded-to-richmond-from-melbourne/story-fndv8t7m-1227086775552

Absolutely devastated at the rumour, let alone that it could actually happen!

Jack Trengove is absolute quality! I just can't believe it, just... just don't let it happen Roos!

Just, awful news  :'(
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Noz on October 10, 2014, 06:50:08 PM
Out Trengove, Frawley
In Brayshaw, McCartin, Cockatoo/Laverde

Melbourne will be winners in the end
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Purple 77 on October 10, 2014, 06:52:19 PM
It's only Trengove's absence from the field that has made him lose "favourite player" status from me  :'(

This guy had veteran maturity when he was drafted... he's just got so much quality... a person a club like melbourne needs! I just don't understand why Roos would look to move him on? He's got that defensive mantra and everything?

He played the entire 2013 season on the back of no pre-season, and on a dodgy foot as it was later revealed; fixed in 2014.

And to think Pick 23 has to be added to him as well?! Another reason not to trade him, his market value is ridiculously low!
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: ADEZ on October 10, 2014, 06:53:51 PM
Quote from: Noz on October 10, 2014, 06:50:08 PM
Out Trengove, Frawley
In Brayshaw, McCartin, Cockatoo/Laverde

Melbourne will be winners in the end
;)
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Nails on October 10, 2014, 06:55:21 PM
I still think it's bullshower Brisbane's pick got pushed from 4 to 5 because of a useless flowering hack like James Frawley

in a draft like this 4>5 is a big deal.

You seriously have to be flowering joking. Pick 3 for James Frawley meaning Brisbane and co. get displaced.

Melbourne essentially get a guaranteed stud for a hack player in Frawley. WOW WHAT A TRADE.

Melbourne would have traded Frawley for pick 20 if offered imo, instead they get a pick 3 because of stupid shower. flower.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: JBs-Hawks on October 10, 2014, 06:58:31 PM
Quote from: Purple 77 on October 10, 2014, 06:52:19 PM
It's only Trengove's absence from the field that has made him lose "favourite player" status from me  :'(

This guy had veteran maturity when he was drafted... he's just got so much quality... a person a club like melbourne needs! I just don't understand why Roos would look to move him on? He's got that defensive mantra and everything?

He played the entire 2013 season on the back of no pre-season, and on a dodgy foot as it was later revealed; fixed in 2014.

And to think Pick 23 has to be added to him as well?! Another reason not to trade him, his market value is ridiculously low!

Kids a gun, dont be stupid Melbourne!
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Big Mac on October 10, 2014, 07:07:12 PM
Would be shattered if Trengove left  :'(

Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Ricochet on October 10, 2014, 07:08:53 PM
(http://i59.tinypic.com/285u8g.png)
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Ricochet on October 10, 2014, 07:13:15 PM
http://www.melbournefc.com.au/melbourne/news/2014-10-10/melbourne-may-trade-trengove

"We said after our last game to our playing list that we would look at all avenues to improve our list. Richmond came to us with a potential deal, Jack is aware of this and all parties will now take some time to consider our options," a Melbourne spokeperson said.

However with the Tigers looking to bolster their midfield and being a club on the rise, Trengove might be recharged by a new environment.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Toga on October 10, 2014, 07:19:08 PM
Money on Toumpas being the other high draft pick that could be moved on :P
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Nige on October 10, 2014, 08:23:12 PM
Quote from: Toga on October 10, 2014, 07:19:08 PM
Money on Toumpas being the other high draft pick that could be moved on :P
Can tbag handle it?
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Dudge on October 10, 2014, 08:42:20 PM
Quote from: Nige on October 10, 2014, 08:23:12 PM
Quote from: Toga on October 10, 2014, 07:19:08 PM
Money on Toumpas being the other high draft pick that could be moved on :P
Can tbag handle it?

Yeah because it's part of the Dangerfeild trade :P
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Mat0369 on October 10, 2014, 09:02:40 PM
If the Dees let Trengove go it is because they know he can't recover from the foot. Navicular injuries are pretty serious
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Toga on October 10, 2014, 09:07:50 PM
They are, but you'd think Richmond will be going through some serious meds with him to make sure the problem isn't going to be ongoing.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Nige on October 10, 2014, 09:12:52 PM
He apparently completed the medical check, but the foot injury does have me a little worried.

Still, he's a good player and would slot in nicely.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Nails on October 10, 2014, 11:02:44 PM
inb4 Footscray and Melbourne fold because they have no players left.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Justin Bieber on October 10, 2014, 11:04:35 PM
Quote from: Nails on October 10, 2014, 11:02:44 PM
inb4 Footscray and Melbourne and Essendon fold because they have no players left.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: meow meow on October 10, 2014, 11:24:54 PM
When you've got BONT, you only need one.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Noz on October 11, 2014, 12:24:07 AM
Quote from: Nails on October 10, 2014, 11:02:44 PM
inb4 Footscray and Melbourne fold because they have no players left.

WestMelbourne Bombers

#GetAroundThem
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: WCarey18 on October 11, 2014, 12:33:40 AM
Quote from: Noz on October 11, 2014, 12:24:07 AM
Quote from: Nails on October 10, 2014, 11:02:44 PM
inb4 Footscray and Melbourne fold because they have no players left.

WestMelbourne Bombers

#GetAroundThem

I think you mean the West Melbourne Bloodhounds.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Justin Bieber on October 11, 2014, 12:45:29 AM
Quote from: meow meow on October 10, 2014, 11:24:54 PM
When you've got BONT, you only need one.

Bont to Sydney  somehow.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Nige on October 11, 2014, 09:19:07 AM
Quote from: whatlez on October 11, 2014, 12:45:29 AM
Quote from: meow meow on October 10, 2014, 11:24:54 PM
When you've got BONT, you only need one.

Bont to Sydney  somehow.
Yeah, for sure. They'll just be like "flower the trade ban" and pay him a ridiculous amount for the next 20 years.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Big Mac on October 11, 2014, 09:24:21 AM
Quote from: Nige on October 11, 2014, 09:19:07 AM
Quote from: whatlez on October 11, 2014, 12:45:29 AM
Quote from: meow meow on October 10, 2014, 11:24:54 PM
When you've got BONT, you only need one.

Bont to Sydney  somehow.
Yeah, for sure. They'll just be like "flower the trade ban" and pay him a ridiculous amount for the next 20 years.

#TomScully2.0
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: kilbluff1985 on October 11, 2014, 10:30:51 AM
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2014-10-11/trade-winds-saturday
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Ricochet on October 11, 2014, 04:08:37 PM
Essendon will sign James Gwilt on Monday
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: WCarey18 on October 11, 2014, 04:12:13 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on October 11, 2014, 04:08:37 PM
Essendon will sign James Gwilt on Monday

Meh.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Jroo on October 11, 2014, 04:15:55 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on October 11, 2014, 04:08:37 PM
Essendon will sign James Gwilt on Monday
Bombers obviously desperate for players, they won't have many soon  ;)
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Nails on October 11, 2014, 05:09:36 PM
Latest news

Bombers talk Kosi out of retirement signing him up to a 4 year 3.2 million dollar deal.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: WCarey18 on October 11, 2014, 05:11:16 PM
Quote from: Nails on October 11, 2014, 05:09:36 PM
Latest news

Bombers talk Kosi out of retirement signing him up to a 4 year $3.20 deal.

Fixed. Due to Essendon's lack of money, and Kosi's actual worth.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Nails on October 11, 2014, 05:13:52 PM
$3.20....

You could get a homeless man to play for Essendon for $3,200 atm.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: kilbluff1985 on October 11, 2014, 06:06:42 PM
Gwilt? wtf
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: elephants on October 11, 2014, 06:08:11 PM
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on October 11, 2014, 06:06:42 PM
Gwilt? wtf

Hey, I'd take him. Could be one of only a handful of eligible players next yr :P #banter
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: DazBurg on October 11, 2014, 07:04:16 PM
personally do not think it is that bad of a move
and gwilt may flourish  if not needing to be #1 or #2
defender
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Jroo on October 11, 2014, 07:25:06 PM
Quote from: The BeDazzler on October 11, 2014, 07:04:16 PM
personally do not think it is that bad of a move
and gwilt may flourish  if not needing to be #1 or #2
defender
Yeah he's actually not that bad. Just at the Saints he's been their number 1 or 2 defender.
At the Bombers he'll be their number 3-4 defender*

*If they don't receive bans  :P
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: ADEZ on October 11, 2014, 07:35:08 PM
I lol'd ::) ::)

7 News are reporting that Brisbane will turn their attention to offering pick 5 for Patrick Ryder with Collingwood 'apparently' closing negotiations on the Beams deal.

Source - AFL Draft, Trade, Free Agency, List and General News FB page
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: GoLions on October 11, 2014, 07:54:00 PM
That'd be kinda funny haha
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Cambo on October 11, 2014, 08:17:32 PM
Quote from: GoLions on October 11, 2014, 07:54:00 PM
That'd be kinda funny haha

I agree.  It would show how stupid Brisbane really are....
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: GoLions on October 11, 2014, 08:21:35 PM
Quote from: Cambo on October 11, 2014, 08:17:32 PM
Quote from: GoLions on October 11, 2014, 07:54:00 PM
That'd be kinda funny haha

I agree.  It would show how stupid Brisbane really are....
And why is that? Ryder would be of more use to us than Beams would, providing we use him as a key forward
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Grazz on October 11, 2014, 08:34:18 PM
Yeh i dont really see where the Lions have been stupid more the opposite in fact. ???
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: kilbluff1985 on October 11, 2014, 08:35:51 PM
Cambo is a Pies supporter explains it lol
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Grazz on October 11, 2014, 08:38:11 PM
Ah ok.  :-X
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Cambo on October 11, 2014, 08:49:32 PM
Quote from: GoLions on October 11, 2014, 08:21:35 PM
Quote from: Cambo on October 11, 2014, 08:17:32 PM
Quote from: GoLions on October 11, 2014, 07:54:00 PM
That'd be kinda funny haha

I agree.  It would show how stupid Brisbane really are....
And why is that? Ryder would be of more use to us than Beams would, providing we use him as a key forward
Beams is one of the best mids in the comp and is also deadly when up forward.  Ryder is a very good forward/ruck but far from elite.  He is the sort of player who is great for a couple of games then goes completely missing for a few.
I find it funny that Brizzy had a shot at an elite mid and let it slip. Will be interesting to see where Beams ends up as I doubt he will ever don the Black & White again.
Yes im a Pies supporter  ;D
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Vinny on October 11, 2014, 08:51:13 PM
Ryder is elite in his position.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Nails on October 11, 2014, 08:51:46 PM
Brisbane offered a fair deal for him. Not their fault Collingwood are stupid and wanted incredible overs.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: GoLions on October 11, 2014, 08:56:05 PM
Quote from: Cambo on October 11, 2014, 08:49:32 PM
Quote from: GoLions on October 11, 2014, 08:21:35 PM
Quote from: Cambo on October 11, 2014, 08:17:32 PM
Quote from: GoLions on October 11, 2014, 07:54:00 PM
That'd be kinda funny haha

I agree.  It would show how stupid Brisbane really are....
And why is that? Ryder would be of more use to us than Beams would, providing we use him as a key forward
Beams is one of the best mids in the comp and is also deadly when up forward.  Ryder is a very good forward/ruck but far from elite.  He is the sort of player who is great for a couple of games then goes completely missing for a few.
I find it funny that Brizzy had a shot at an elite mid and let it slip. Will be interesting to see where Beams ends up as I doubt he will ever don the Black & White again.
Yes im a Pies supporter  ;D
I don't think you understand what I said. Let's say you have a midfield of Ablett, Pendlebury, Selwood, Fyfe, JPK, and Rockliff. Your forward line consists of a bunch of 18-20 year olds who have all played a handful of games. All of a sudden, Beams wants to come to your club, but so does Ryder. Who would you rather have?

Quote from: Vinny on October 11, 2014, 08:51:13 PM
Ryder is elite in his position.
Agreed.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: GoLions on October 11, 2014, 10:18:32 PM
All of this is from "AFL Draft, Trade, Free Agency, List and General News" on Facebook



Via Twitter "@SamLandsberger: GWS def Sam Frost could join Melbourne in pre-season draft. Frost - to help cover Frawley - for nothing and pick 3 would be a big Dees win."



Allen Christensen has today passed a medical screening with the Brisbane Lions. He will join the club on Monday morning, as Geelong and Brisbane agree to receive and trade respectively pick 21.



Brisbane have reportedly ceased interest in Carlton's Mitch Robinson.



The AFL have revealed that Collingwood and Brisbane will play each other in Round 1, 2015.



Jack Crisp could be the circuit breaker to help the Lions secure Dayne Beams reports The Age.

Crisp has told Brisbane officials he would be happy to move back to Victoria if a trade can be brokered, otherwise he would accept a new two-year deal the Lions have tabled for him.

Crisp has attracted interest not form Collingwood, but from Essendon who are keen to secure his services. The Bulldogs have also shown interest.

A trade between the Lions and Bombers, likely for a draft selection, would allow the Lions to re-enter a complex five-club trade they had initially declined to get the deal processed.

It would involve the following:

GEELONG: In - Mitch Clark, pick 21 Out - Travis Varcoe, Allen Christensen
COLLINGWOOD: In - Levi Greenwood, Travis Varcoe, Pick 5, Out - Dayne Beams, Heritier Lumumba
NORTH MELBOURNE: In - Pick 25, Out - Levi Greenwood
MELBOURNE: In - Heritier Lumumba, Out - Mitch Clark
BRISBANE: In - Dayne Beams, Out - Pick 5, 25



Let's see how much of it is true.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Justin Bieber on October 11, 2014, 10:20:52 PM
Gwilt is a good player imo.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Toga on October 11, 2014, 10:39:46 PM
Quote from: GoLions on October 11, 2014, 10:18:32 PM
GEELONG: In - Mitch Clark, pick 21 Out - Travis Varcoe, Allen Christensen
COLLINGWOOD: In - Levi Greenwood, Travis Varcoe, Pick 5, Out - Dayne Beams, Heritier Lumumba
NORTH MELBOURNE: In - Pick 25, Out - Levi Greenwood
MELBOURNE: In - Heritier Lumumba, Out - Mitch Clark
BRISBANE: In - Dayne Beams, Out - Pick 5, 25

Where does Crisp fit in all that? :P
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: GoLions on October 11, 2014, 10:56:23 PM
Quote from: Toga on October 11, 2014, 10:39:46 PM
Quote from: GoLions on October 11, 2014, 10:18:32 PM
GEELONG: In - Mitch Clark, pick 21 Out - Travis Varcoe, Allen Christensen
COLLINGWOOD: In - Levi Greenwood, Travis Varcoe, Pick 5, Out - Dayne Beams, Heritier Lumumba
NORTH MELBOURNE: In - Pick 25, Out - Levi Greenwood
MELBOURNE: In - Heritier Lumumba, Out - Mitch Clark
BRISBANE: In - Dayne Beams, Out - Pick 5, 25

Where does Crisp fit in all that? :P
No idea, especially if it's true that Brisbane were the only ones to reject it yesterday as we were awaiting the results of Christensen's medical. Might mean we add Crisp to a club, and get another pick in return.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: WCarey18 on October 12, 2014, 12:01:48 AM
Quote from: GoLions on October 11, 2014, 10:56:23 PM
Quote from: Toga on October 11, 2014, 10:39:46 PM
Quote from: GoLions on October 11, 2014, 10:18:32 PM
GEELONG: In - Mitch Clark, pick 21 Out - Travis Varcoe, Allen Christensen
COLLINGWOOD: In - Levi Greenwood, Travis Varcoe, Pick 5, Out - Dayne Beams, Heritier Lumumba
NORTH MELBOURNE: In - Pick 25, Out - Levi Greenwood
MELBOURNE: In - Heritier Lumumba, Out - Mitch Clark
BRISBANE: In - Dayne Beams, Out - Pick 5, 25

Where does Crisp fit in all that? :P
No idea, especially if it's true that Brisbane were the only ones to reject it yesterday as we were awaiting the results of Christensen's medical. Might mean we add Crisp to a club, and get another pick in return.

North should go for pick 21 IMO, 25 still seems too low. Be also happy to throw some picks around with Geelong to upgrade our first rounder.

I suggested this trade, just fill in the ? and its pretty much good to go.

Collingwood gives: Beams, Lumumba and pick 30
Collingwood receives: Redden, Greenwood, Varcoe and pick 16

Brisbane gives: ? and picks 5 and 25
Brisbane receives: Beams and Christensen

North gives: Greenwood and pick 16
North receives: picks 14 and 23

Geelong give: Varcoe, Christensen and pick 14
Geelong receive: Clark and picks 5 and 30

Melbourne give: Clark and pick 23
Melbourne receive: Lumumba and picks 25 and 35
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: JBs-Hawks on October 12, 2014, 12:07:15 AM
Dont think the people doing  this trade are going to be listening to your  suggestions ;)
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: GoLions on October 12, 2014, 12:15:54 AM
Too many picks involved hahaha

Also, Lions and Cats have agreed on 21 for Christensen, so that won't be a part of the 5-club deal, as it's completely irrelevant from other deals.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Noz on October 12, 2014, 11:15:19 AM
Quote from: WCarey18 on October 12, 2014, 12:01:48 AM
Quote from: GoLions on October 11, 2014, 10:56:23 PM
Quote from: Toga on October 11, 2014, 10:39:46 PM
Quote from: GoLions on October 11, 2014, 10:18:32 PM
GEELONG: In - Mitch Clark, pick 21 Out - Travis Varcoe, Allen Christensen
COLLINGWOOD: In - Levi Greenwood, Travis Varcoe, Pick 5, Out - Dayne Beams, Heritier Lumumba
NORTH MELBOURNE: In - Pick 25, Out - Levi Greenwood
MELBOURNE: In - Heritier Lumumba, Out - Mitch Clark
BRISBANE: In - Dayne Beams, Out - Pick 5, 25

Where does Crisp fit in all that? :P
No idea, especially if it's true that Brisbane were the only ones to reject it yesterday as we were awaiting the results of Christensen's medical. Might mean we add Crisp to a club, and get another pick in return.

North should go for pick 21 IMO, 25 still seems too low. Be also happy to throw some picks around with Geelong to upgrade our first rounder.

I suggested this trade, just fill in the ? and its pretty much good to go.

Collingwood gives: Beams, Lumumba and pick 30
Collingwood receives: Redden, Greenwood, Varcoe and pick 16

Brisbane gives: ? and picks 5 and 25
Brisbane receives: Beams and Christensen

North gives: Greenwood and pick 16
North receives: picks 14 and 23

Geelong give: Varcoe, Christensen and pick 14
Geelong receive: Clark and picks 5 and 30

Melbourne give: Clark and pick 23
Melbourne receive: Lumumba and picks 25 and 35

Collingwood receive Redden without Brisbane giving him up and somehow Geelong end up with pick 5?
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: GoLions on October 12, 2014, 11:22:16 AM
Quote from: Noz on October 12, 2014, 11:15:19 AM
Quote from: WCarey18 on October 12, 2014, 12:01:48 AM
Quote from: GoLions on October 11, 2014, 10:56:23 PM
Quote from: Toga on October 11, 2014, 10:39:46 PM
Quote from: GoLions on October 11, 2014, 10:18:32 PM
GEELONG: In - Mitch Clark, pick 21 Out - Travis Varcoe, Allen Christensen
COLLINGWOOD: In - Levi Greenwood, Travis Varcoe, Pick 5, Out - Dayne Beams, Heritier Lumumba
NORTH MELBOURNE: In - Pick 25, Out - Levi Greenwood
MELBOURNE: In - Heritier Lumumba, Out - Mitch Clark
BRISBANE: In - Dayne Beams, Out - Pick 5, 25

Where does Crisp fit in all that? :P
No idea, especially if it's true that Brisbane were the only ones to reject it yesterday as we were awaiting the results of Christensen's medical. Might mean we add Crisp to a club, and get another pick in return.

North should go for pick 21 IMO, 25 still seems too low. Be also happy to throw some picks around with Geelong to upgrade our first rounder.

I suggested this trade, just fill in the ? and its pretty much good to go.

Collingwood gives: Beams, Lumumba and pick 30
Collingwood receives: Redden, Greenwood, Varcoe and pick 16

Brisbane gives: ? and picks 5 and 25
Brisbane receives: Beams and Christensen

North gives: Greenwood and pick 16
North receives: picks 14 and 23

Geelong give: Varcoe, Christensen and pick 14
Geelong receive: Clark and picks 5 and 30

Melbourne give: Clark and pick 23
Melbourne receive: Lumumba and picks 25 and 35

Collingwood receive Redden without Brisbane giving him up and somehow Geelong end up with pick 5?
There's a number of flaws haha. Pick 35 also comes from nowhere to end at the Dees. Pies will obviously get pick 5. Doubt they will involve mini pick upgreades/downgrades. And like I said before, 21 and Christensen won't be a part of the deal.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: kilbluff1985 on October 12, 2014, 11:23:04 AM
it's a ghost team to add suspense
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Ricochet on October 12, 2014, 12:00:53 PM
Initially thought that if Brissie miss out on Beams it would be a huge mistake on their part, but if they land Ryder its a big win. Obviously nowhere near the level Beams is on but in terms of structure and lack of fwds Ryder would be preferred surely
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: nas on October 12, 2014, 12:42:18 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on October 12, 2014, 12:00:53 PM
Initially thought that if Brissie miss out on Beams it would be a huge mistake on their part, but if they land Ryder its a big win. Obviously nowhere near the level Beams is on but in terms of structure and lack of fwds Ryder would be preferred surely

Hope that that doesn't happen & continues on to the Power, but if did Pick 5 + a player to make this happen? Tho he has nominated Power other things have happened in the past re Clarke scenario. Happens, would Power go after Giles?
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Hellopplz on October 12, 2014, 02:51:37 PM
Quote from: nas on October 12, 2014, 12:42:18 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on October 12, 2014, 12:00:53 PM
Initially thought that if Brissie miss out on Beams it would be a huge mistake on their part, but if they land Ryder its a big win. Obviously nowhere near the level Beams is on but in terms of structure and lack of fwds Ryder would be preferred surely
Hope that that doesn't happen & continues on to the Power, but if did Pick 5 + a player to make this happen? Tho he has nominated Power other things have happened in the past re Clarke scenario. Happens, would Power go after Giles?
Well early speculation was that he was going to Lions before deciding on Port, so can understand if Lions nab him.

And reckon if Port can't get Ryder, they'll grab either Giles or Gorringe, who has nominated them as his preferred club. Can see them grabbing one of these two if not Ryder to help backup Lobbe (and Redden).
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Jroo on October 12, 2014, 07:05:21 PM
MASSIVE NEWS
@AFL_petryan: Could Cheney join @Adelaide_FC? http://t.co/PvCl6fYOsm #tradeperiod
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: roo boys! on October 12, 2014, 07:10:49 PM
Quote from: JROO8 on October 12, 2014, 07:05:21 PM
MASSIVE NEWS
@AFL_petryan: Could Cheney join @Adelaide_FC? http://t.co/PvCl6fYOsm #tradeperiod
Well, that ends the Hawks premiership window
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: shaker on October 12, 2014, 07:28:18 PM
Beams trade close with the Lions throwing in Crisp plus 5 and 25 just saw on evening news
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Pkbaldy on October 12, 2014, 08:10:21 PM
Quote from: shaker on October 12, 2014, 07:28:18 PM
Beams trade close with the Lions throwing in Crisp plus 5 and 25 just saw on evening news

Yeah I saw this too. Don't know how much you can listen to this Tom Browne guy though. We will see.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: meow meow on October 12, 2014, 08:15:25 PM
Griffen and Cooney might both be off to GWS.

Essendon and NM have also shown interest in Cooney too.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Nails on October 12, 2014, 08:19:18 PM
Crisp > Beams.

Look at dat SC average by Crisp and factor in his age.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: meow meow on October 12, 2014, 08:28:24 PM
Quote from: Nails on October 12, 2014, 08:19:18 PM
Crisp > Beams.

Look at dat SC average by Crisp and factor in his age.

That makes a lot of sense. At the same age Beams was averaging 100 in SC, had played 30 more games including a Premiership.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Nails on October 12, 2014, 08:36:46 PM
Quote from: meow meow on October 12, 2014, 08:28:24 PM
Quote from: Nails on October 12, 2014, 08:19:18 PM
Crisp > Beams.

Look at dat SC average by Crisp and factor in his age.

That makes a lot of sense. At the same age Beams was averaging 100 in SC, had played 30 more games including a Premiership.

Jack Crisp averaged 85.5
Dayne Beams average 84.8

84.8 is not greater than 85.5
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: meow meow on October 12, 2014, 08:52:44 PM
Oh my mistake. I just looked at Beams averaging 100 in his 3rd year on an AFL list and Crisp averaging 85 from his 6 games in season 3. Lock him in for 100+ next year then?

Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: GoLions on October 12, 2014, 08:55:08 PM
Quote from: meow meow on October 12, 2014, 08:52:44 PM
Oh my mistake. I just looked at Beams averaging 100 in his 3rd year on an AFL list and Crisp averaging 85 from his 6 games in season 3. Lock him in for 100+ next year then?
I think Nails is being a tad sneaky by saying that Crisp averaged 85.5 when he was 20, and Beams averaged 84.8 when he was 20 :P
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: meow meow on October 12, 2014, 09:06:57 PM
Can't argue with his logic. 20 is 20.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: tbagrocks on October 12, 2014, 09:47:00 PM
Yeah SC scores, they tell the true story of a players value

Just ask Pendlebury, Rockliff, Ablett who all missed finals

Then ask Boaky, Hodgey, Burgoyne, Franklin, Walters, Westhoff, Zeibell, Swallow ect..

Hmmmmmm
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Mr.Craig on October 12, 2014, 09:51:21 PM
Quote from: roo boys! on October 12, 2014, 07:10:49 PM
Quote from: JROO8 on October 12, 2014, 07:05:21 PM
MASSIVE NEWS
@AFL_petryan: Could Cheney join @Adelaide_FC? http://t.co/PvCl6fYOsm #tradeperiod
Well, that ends the Hawks premiership window

Rebuilding phase. We'll be back in contention in a decade.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: elephants on October 12, 2014, 09:51:34 PM
Waaaait, so SC scores don't make someone a good player? But finals success does?

Geez, Ablett has been shower since he left Geelong then I guess.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: kilbluff1985 on October 12, 2014, 09:51:47 PM
wtf tbag

players don't make the finals teams do

using that as a measuring tool is lol
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: JBs-Hawks on October 12, 2014, 09:55:33 PM
All crows are shower then
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: GoLions on October 12, 2014, 09:56:33 PM
Quote from: tbagrocks on October 12, 2014, 09:47:00 PM
Yeah SC scores, they tell the true story of a players value

Just ask Pendlebury, Rockliff, Ablett who all missed finals

Then ask Boaky, Hodgey, Burgoyne, Franklin, Walters, Westhoff, Zeibell, Swallow ect..

Hmmmmmm
Tex - Didn't make finals
Tippett - Made GF
GUNston - Won GF

I agree with you 100% teabs.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: tbagrocks on October 12, 2014, 09:57:15 PM
Are you kidding me? So everything CD records in their view makes a good player but what they don't like doesn't? :o

Just an example, use your own flowering brains to work stuff out and stop letting the stats fool you into what you are supposed to think

   ::)
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: kilbluff1985 on October 12, 2014, 10:02:08 PM
if a player averaged 30 touches a game and on average 25 were contested with 85% efficiency i'd say he would be a gun
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: tbagrocks on October 12, 2014, 10:06:10 PM
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on October 12, 2014, 10:02:08 PM
if a player averaged 30 touches a game and on average 25 were contested with 85% efficiency i'd say he would be a gun
Except that doesn't happen

Who decides what is or isn't an effective disposal anyway? CD? They get it wrong, nobody's perfect, especially CD
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: nrich102 on October 12, 2014, 10:07:24 PM
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on October 12, 2014, 10:02:08 PM
if a player averaged 30 touches a game and on average 25 were contested with 85% efficiency i'd say he would be a gun
Nah hes a flowering spud :P
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Ricochet on October 12, 2014, 10:09:45 PM
Quote from: tbagrocks on October 12, 2014, 10:06:10 PM
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on October 12, 2014, 10:02:08 PM
if a player averaged 30 touches a game and on average 25 were contested with 85% efficiency i'd say he would be a gun
Except that doesn't happen

Who decides what is or isn't an effective disposal anyway? CD? They get it wrong, nobody's perfect, especially CD
CD is the closest thing we have to perfect man
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: eg6914 on October 12, 2014, 10:11:34 PM
Quote from: Mr.Craig on October 12, 2014, 09:51:21 PM
Quote from: roo boys! on October 12, 2014, 07:10:49 PM
Quote from: JROO8 on October 12, 2014, 07:05:21 PM
MASSIVE NEWS
@AFL_petryan: Could Cheney join @Adelaide_FC? http://t.co/PvCl6fYOsm #tradeperiod
Well, that ends the Hawks premiership window

Rebuilding phase. We'll be back in contention in a decade.
Hands down greatest joke in this thread
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: tbagrocks on October 12, 2014, 10:16:27 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on October 12, 2014, 10:09:45 PM
Quote from: tbagrocks on October 12, 2014, 10:06:10 PM
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on October 12, 2014, 10:02:08 PM
if a player averaged 30 touches a game and on average 25 were contested with 85% efficiency i'd say he would be a gun
Except that doesn't happen

Who decides what is or isn't an effective disposal anyway? CD? They get it wrong, nobody's perfect, especially CD
CD is the closest thing we have to perfect man
I'll forget Taylor Walker didn't hear that!

I call bs anyway, CD ::)
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: elephants on October 12, 2014, 10:27:57 PM
Much better using the tbag methodology.

Every Adelaide Crows player > life.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: tbagrocks on October 12, 2014, 10:40:47 PM
Just imagine for a second here, a Taylor Walker or Nick Riewoldt  runs his opponent ragged

Nick Roo simply outclasses and outworks his opp all day and takes 15 uncontested marks and 0 contested

How does he rate CD wise?   Roo is BOG by a mile but, does CD recognise his work and ability to take a mark uncontested?

Or does he need to take contested marks (Lazy? If he just sits and cant outsmart his opp but still takes the mark) to be considered a good game?

Yeah but CD is totally thy bees knees and nothing else matters
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Ricochet on October 12, 2014, 10:45:52 PM
But if he didn't outwork his opponent he may not have gotten those uncontested marks let alone a mark at all...

I guess the point is man, we don't have anything as accurate or more accurate than CD
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Vinny on October 12, 2014, 10:48:09 PM
Why do you play SC if you hate it so much?
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: tbagrocks on October 12, 2014, 10:54:25 PM
Quote from: Vinny on October 12, 2014, 10:48:09 PM
Why do you play SC if you hate it so much?
I don't hate it but I disagree sometimes

I play because I can use their flawed system to help me gain a good position in their comps, also I enjoy it. Not perfect but it favours players I like as in Tex, Priddis, Sloane, Kennedy ect

#ELXAM finalist before injuries and suspensions ruined my quest
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Noz on October 12, 2014, 11:10:35 PM
Quote from: JROO8 on October 12, 2014, 07:05:21 PM
MASSIVE NEWS
@AFL_petryan: Could Cheney join @Adelaide_FC? http://t.co/PvCl6fYOsm #tradeperiod

Whats the massive news?
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Ricochet on October 13, 2014, 11:11:52 AM
Tom Boyd requesting a trade from GWS :o

Griffen will go to GWS and Boyd to Bullies
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: kilbluff1985 on October 13, 2014, 11:13:14 AM
Quote from: Ricochet on October 13, 2014, 11:11:52 AM
Tom Boyd requesting a trade from GWS :o

Griffen will go to GWS and Boyd to Bullies

wowee
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Ricochet on October 13, 2014, 11:14:15 AM
but then GWS have just released this

http://www.gwsgiants.com.au/news/2014-10-13/giants-wont-trade-boyd

CEO David Matthews said: "With Ryan Griffen indicating he will seek a trade to the GIANTS, we are in discussions with the Western Bulldogs.  We have been clear with them that despite any speculation or interest, Tom Boyd will not be traded under any circumstances.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: kilbluff1985 on October 13, 2014, 11:18:27 AM
Western Bulldogs
@westernbulldogs
The Club confirm we've been informed by Tom Boyds management he
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: RaisyDaisy on October 13, 2014, 11:20:27 AM
Boyd wants to be a Bulldog

http://www.westernbulldogs.com.au/news/2014-10-13/boyd-wants-to-be-a-bulldog

"The Western Bulldogs have communicated to GWS that we are prepared to achieve this outcome through a direct trade for Ryan Griffen"
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: LF on October 13, 2014, 11:20:33 AM
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on October 13, 2014, 11:18:27 AM
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Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: kilbluff1985 on October 13, 2014, 11:23:14 AM
wonder if Giants would want Cooney and Griff

i don't mean just for Boyd
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Nige on October 13, 2014, 11:30:20 AM
Patton, Cameron, Boyd and McCarthy... I think it was almost inevitable one would leave.

Kind of surprised it was Boyd though.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: WCarey18 on October 13, 2014, 11:30:42 AM
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on October 13, 2014, 11:23:14 AM
wonder if Giants would want Cooney and Griff

i don't mean just for Boyd

Bulldogs have offered a straight swap - Griffen FOR Boyd.

Worth thinking about, but GWS are right to say no.

19yo KPF taken at pick 1 > 28yo established midfielder.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Ricochet on October 13, 2014, 11:32:27 AM
Don't mind this

Griff + N6 for Boyd + 2nd rounder
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: kilbluff1985 on October 13, 2014, 11:36:21 AM
it's funny seeing some comments from people who don't rate Boyd which is pretty harsh
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: RaisyDaisy on October 13, 2014, 11:39:59 AM
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on October 13, 2014, 11:36:21 AM
it's funny seeing some comments from people who don't rate Boyd which is pretty harsh

I think it will take much longer for Boyd to adjust, compared to Cameron and Patton based on what I saw of Boyd.

The trade is a win for both clubs IMO
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Ricochet on October 13, 2014, 11:44:43 AM
lol

(http://i62.tinypic.com/1z38mzq.png)
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Jroo on October 13, 2014, 11:50:40 AM
Wow! Don't blame him though, he'd be getting a massive offer. Remember how much they offered Lonergan?
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Noz on October 13, 2014, 12:18:55 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on October 13, 2014, 11:39:59 AM
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on October 13, 2014, 11:36:21 AM
it's funny seeing some comments from people who don't rate Boyd which is pretty harsh

I think it will take much longer for Boyd to adjust, compared to Cameron and Patton based on what I saw of Boyd.

The trade is a win for both clubs IMO

Boyd took more strides in his first season then Patton has taken in his entire career
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Mr.Craig on October 13, 2014, 12:55:38 PM
The GWS feeding frenzy has well and truly kicked off.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Ricochet on October 13, 2014, 12:57:23 PM
Mitch Cleary saying paperwork for Christensen to Brissie for N21 to be lodged 3pm today
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Nige on October 13, 2014, 01:17:05 PM
Quote from: JROO8 on October 13, 2014, 11:50:40 AM
Wow! Don't blame him though, he'd be getting a massive offer. Remember how much they offered Lonergan?
That's definitely what they'll throw at him.

Patton gone for a majority of, if not, the season and if Boyd goes... Cam McCarthy could be getting a fair few games!
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Jroo on October 13, 2014, 01:24:07 PM
Quote from: Nige on October 13, 2014, 01:17:05 PM
Quote from: JROO8 on October 13, 2014, 11:50:40 AM
Wow! Don't blame him though, he'd be getting a massive offer. Remember how much they offered Lonergan?
That's definitely what they'll throw at him.

Patton gone for a majority of, if not, the season and if Boyd goes... Cam McCarthy could be getting a fair few games!
@srahul_35: The Bulldogs have offered Boyd $5.5m/6 years and $3m over the first 2 years. How can you blame a 19yo for wanting that much money?
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: elephants on October 13, 2014, 01:29:44 PM
Quote from: JROO8 on October 13, 2014, 01:24:07 PM
Quote from: Nige on October 13, 2014, 01:17:05 PM
Quote from: JROO8 on October 13, 2014, 11:50:40 AM
Wow! Don't blame him though, he'd be getting a massive offer. Remember how much they offered Lonergan?
That's definitely what they'll throw at him.

Patton gone for a majority of, if not, the season and if Boyd goes... Cam McCarthy could be getting a fair few games!
@srahul_35: The Bulldogs have offered Boyd $5.5m/6 years and $3m over the first 2 years. How can you blame a 19yo for wanting that much money?

Holy flowering shower.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Justin Bieber on October 13, 2014, 01:30:09 PM
Poor Patton. Had a similar offer, but did hid knee :(
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Bill Manspeaker on October 13, 2014, 01:32:38 PM
yeah Patton's knee could have cost him a lot of money
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Nige on October 13, 2014, 01:33:45 PM
Quote from: elephants on October 13, 2014, 01:29:44 PM
Quote from: JROO8 on October 13, 2014, 01:24:07 PM
Quote from: Nige on October 13, 2014, 01:17:05 PM
Quote from: JROO8 on October 13, 2014, 11:50:40 AM
Wow! Don't blame him though, he'd be getting a massive offer. Remember how much they offered Lonergan?
That's definitely what they'll throw at him.

Patton gone for a majority of, if not, the season and if Boyd goes... Cam McCarthy could be getting a fair few games!
@srahul_35: The Bulldogs have offered Boyd $5.5m/6 years and $3m over the first 2 years. How can you blame a 19yo for wanting that much money?

Holy flowering shower.
Giants have said he's going nowhere, let's see how this plays out.  :o
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: kilbluff1985 on October 13, 2014, 01:47:37 PM
still whispers Dempsey might get traded makes the Gwilt signing for sensible
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: meow meow on October 13, 2014, 01:48:23 PM
If GWS don't trade Boyd, something tells me that there might be another wooden spoon in our future in 2015. We'll get him now, or next year with pick 1. GWS are just delaying the inevitable, same as we're doing if we keep Griffen.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Bill Manspeaker on October 13, 2014, 01:50:13 PM
Quote from: meow meow on October 13, 2014, 01:48:23 PM
If GWS don't trade Boyd, something tells me that there might be another wooden spoon in our future in 2015. We'll get him now, or next year with pick 1. GWS are just delaying the inevitable, same as we're doing if we keep Griffen.

think we're in the box seat again for pick 1
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: WCarey18 on October 13, 2014, 01:51:09 PM
Quote from: Nige on October 13, 2014, 01:33:45 PM
Quote from: elephants on October 13, 2014, 01:29:44 PM
Quote from: JROO8 on October 13, 2014, 01:24:07 PM
Quote from: Nige on October 13, 2014, 01:17:05 PM
Quote from: JROO8 on October 13, 2014, 11:50:40 AM
Wow! Don't blame him though, he'd be getting a massive offer. Remember how much they offered Lonergan?
That's definitely what they'll throw at him.

Patton gone for a majority of, if not, the season and if Boyd goes... Cam McCarthy could be getting a fair few games!
@srahul_35: The Bulldogs have offered Boyd $5.5m/6 years and $3m over the first 2 years. How can you blame a 19yo for wanting that much money?

Holy flowering shower.
Giants have said he's going nowhere, let's see how this plays out.  :o

Is he really worth $1.5m per year for the first two?
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: kilbluff1985 on October 13, 2014, 01:52:40 PM
Quote from: WCarey18 on October 13, 2014, 01:51:09 PM
Quote from: Nige on October 13, 2014, 01:33:45 PM
Quote from: elephants on October 13, 2014, 01:29:44 PM
Quote from: JROO8 on October 13, 2014, 01:24:07 PM
Quote from: Nige on October 13, 2014, 01:17:05 PM
Quote from: JROO8 on October 13, 2014, 11:50:40 AM
Wow! Don't blame him though, he'd be getting a massive offer. Remember how much they offered Lonergan?
That's definitely what they'll throw at him.

Patton gone for a majority of, if not, the season and if Boyd goes... Cam McCarthy could be getting a fair few games!
@srahul_35: The Bulldogs have offered Boyd $5.5m/6 years and $3m over the first 2 years. How can you blame a 19yo for wanting that much money?

Holy flowering shower.
Giants have said he's going nowhere, let's see how this plays out.  :o

Is he really worth $1.5m per year for the first two?

it's called front loading
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: meow meow on October 13, 2014, 01:53:31 PM
Quote from: brad on October 13, 2014, 01:50:13 PM
Quote from: meow meow on October 13, 2014, 01:48:23 PM
If GWS don't trade Boyd, something tells me that there might be another wooden spoon in our future in 2015. We'll get him now, or next year with pick 1. GWS are just delaying the inevitable, same as we're doing if we keep Griffen.

think we're in the box seat again for pick 1

Haha probably. How many is that, 27 spoons now? Either way, Boyd could just refuse to sign, refuse to agree to any trades, put himself in the draft and the Giants end up with nothing while Boyd ends up back in Vic on a huge contract.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: meow meow on October 13, 2014, 01:55:15 PM
Quote from: Jukes on October 13, 2014, 01:49:22 PM
AFL Draft, Trade, Free Agency, List and General News
6 mins

:o :o :o Big news!
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Jukes on October 13, 2014, 02:06:39 PM
Let's try it again


AFL Draft, Trade, Free Agency, List and General News
The proposed five-way Beams trade;
Collingwood:
IN: Pick 5, Levi Greenwood, Travis Varcoe, Jack Crisp
OUT: Dayne Beams, Heritier Lumumba, pick 25
BRISBANE:
IN: Dayne Beams, Allen Christensen
OUT: Pick 5, 21, 25, Jack Crisp
MELBOURNE:
IN: Heritier Lumumba
OUT: Mitch Clark
NORTH MELBOURNE:
IN: Pick 25
OUT: Levi Greenwood
GEELONG:
IN: Pick Mitch Clark, Pick 21
OUT: Travis Varcoe, Allen Christensen
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Ricochet on October 13, 2014, 02:08:42 PM
Going by that there are two pick 25s lol. Not sure what they did there

Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: My Chumps on October 13, 2014, 02:08:49 PM
Brisbane fans would have to be flowering estatic if that goes through ^

Quote from: Ricochet on October 13, 2014, 11:32:27 AM
Don't mind this

Griff + N6 for Boyd + 2nd rounder
Waaaaay overs from the Dogs considering both players now want to leave.

Straight swap, maybe Griff + second rounder surely.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Ricochet on October 13, 2014, 02:11:22 PM
Quote from: My Chumps on October 13, 2014, 02:08:49 PM
Brisbane fans would have to be flowering estatic if that goes through ^

Quote from: Ricochet on October 13, 2014, 11:32:27 AM
Don't mind this

Griff + N6 for Boyd + 2nd rounder
Waaaaay overs from the Dogs considering both players now want to leave.

Straight swap, maybe Griff + second rounder surely.
Boyd is a key fwd and was last years number 1 pick man. Griffen is a midfielder and 29 next year. Plus GWS have said Boyd is not up for trade. Bullies will have to pay to get him.
Griff + N6 for Boyd + 2nd rounder is fair imo, and won't be surprised if Bullies offer a later pick than the 2nd rounder
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Rusty00 on October 13, 2014, 02:21:20 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on October 13, 2014, 02:08:42 PM
Going by that there are two pick 25s lol. Not sure what they did there
I assumed that it meant Collingwood on-traded Pick 25. Although technically then it shouldn't have Pick 25 listed under both "ins" and "outs" for Collingwood ;)
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Ricochet on October 13, 2014, 02:21:58 PM
Quote from: Rusty00 on October 13, 2014, 02:21:20 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on October 13, 2014, 02:08:42 PM
Going by that there are two pick 25s lol. Not sure what they did there
I assumed that it meant Collingwood on-traded Pick 25. Although technically then it shouldn't have Pick 25 listed under both "ins" and "outs" for Collingwood ;)
haha yeh thats what I was thinking.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Jukes on October 13, 2014, 02:31:04 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on October 13, 2014, 02:08:42 PM
Going by that there are two pick 25s lol. Not sure what they did there

25 goes from Brisbane to Pies to North

And apparantly giles -> dons
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Ricochet on October 13, 2014, 02:34:09 PM
Quote from: Jukes on October 13, 2014, 02:31:04 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on October 13, 2014, 02:08:42 PM
Going by that there are two pick 25s lol. Not sure what they did there

25 goes from Brisbane to Pies to North

And apparantly giles -> dons
Yeh they just needed to show two 25s as INs as well, or only showed the one 25 leaving Brissie
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: WCarey18 on October 13, 2014, 02:43:36 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on October 13, 2014, 02:34:09 PM
Quote from: Jukes on October 13, 2014, 02:31:04 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on October 13, 2014, 02:08:42 PM
Going by that there are two pick 25s lol. Not sure what they did there

25 goes from Brisbane to Pies to North

And apparantly giles -> dons
Yeh they just needed to show two 25s as INs as well, or only showed the one 25 leaving Brissie

I've heard that it could be Collingwood's pick 30 leaving to go to North for Greenwood as well. They knocked back pick 30 from Collingwood, can't see them taking a pick thats 5 places higher.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: AaronKirk on October 13, 2014, 03:01:58 PM
Quote from: Jukes on October 13, 2014, 02:31:04 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on October 13, 2014, 02:08:42 PM
Going by that there are two pick 25s lol. Not sure what they did there

25 goes from Brisbane to Pies to North

And apparantly giles -> dons

Luke Lowden had a medical check at the dons today. He will replace Ryder as the ruck, not Giles.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Nige on October 13, 2014, 03:03:13 PM
Quote from: AaronKirk on October 13, 2014, 03:01:58 PM
Quote from: Jukes on October 13, 2014, 02:31:04 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on October 13, 2014, 02:08:42 PM
Going by that there are two pick 25s lol. Not sure what they did there

25 goes from Brisbane to Pies to North

And apparantly giles -> dons

Luke Lowden had a medical check at the dons today. He will replace Ryder as the ruck, not Giles.
It's looking that way, I reckon Giles will probably end up at the Crows.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Ricochet on October 13, 2014, 03:38:42 PM
done deal

http://www.lions.com.au/brisbanelions/news/2014-10-13/lions-land-christensen

The Brisbane Lions today lodged the paperwork for a trade that will see former Geelong premiership player Allen Christensen join the Club.

The Lions acquired the talented 23-year-old midfielder in return for Pick No.21, which the Club received from GWS in exchange for veteran defender, Joel Patfull.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Jroo on October 13, 2014, 03:39:07 PM
#steal
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: GoLions on October 13, 2014, 03:39:21 PM
 8)
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: T Dog on October 13, 2014, 03:41:20 PM
Quote from: JROO8 on October 13, 2014, 03:39:07 PM
#steal

Yeah, Big time heist - unless his injury is still iffy I suppose  ???
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Mr.Craig on October 13, 2014, 03:41:47 PM
Quote from: Nige on October 13, 2014, 01:17:05 PM
Cam McCarthy could be getting a fair few games!

James Stewart too.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: elephants on October 13, 2014, 03:44:31 PM
Quote from: T Dog on October 13, 2014, 03:41:20 PM
Quote from: JROO8 on October 13, 2014, 03:39:07 PM
#steal

Yeah, Big time heist - unless his injury is still iffy I suppose  ???

Yeah I feel like Geelong may have factored that in when accepting pick 21 for him.. 23 y.o with a dud back :s
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Jroo on October 13, 2014, 03:46:01 PM
Quote from: elephants on October 13, 2014, 03:44:31 PM
Quote from: T Dog on October 13, 2014, 03:41:20 PM
Quote from: JROO8 on October 13, 2014, 03:39:07 PM
#steal

Yeah, Big time heist - unless his injury is still iffy I suppose  ???

Yeah I feel like Geelong may have factored that in when accepting pick 21 for him.. 23 y.o with a dud back :s
Bit harsh. It's not like they wanted to trade him, he wanted to go and Brisbane were the only option.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Ricochet on October 13, 2014, 03:47:20 PM
They didn't really put up much of a fight did they. Either their really good blokes... or there's more to it :-X
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Mr.Craig on October 13, 2014, 03:58:12 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on October 13, 2014, 03:47:20 PM
They didn't really put up much of a fight did they. Either their really good blokes... or there's more to it :-X

It's my impression that Geelong aren't too bad to deal with, especially compared to some other teams.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: elephants on October 13, 2014, 03:58:42 PM
Quote from: JROO8 on October 13, 2014, 03:46:01 PM
Quote from: elephants on October 13, 2014, 03:44:31 PM
Quote from: T Dog on October 13, 2014, 03:41:20 PM
Quote from: JROO8 on October 13, 2014, 03:39:07 PM
#steal

Yeah, Big time heist - unless his injury is still iffy I suppose  ???

Yeah I feel like Geelong may have factored that in when accepting pick 21 for him.. 23 y.o with a dud back :s
Bit harsh. It's not like they wanted to trade him, he wanted to go and Brisbane were the only option.

Course not, but they caved very easily. Think you misinterpreted my post? Haha
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Big Mac on October 13, 2014, 03:59:16 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on October 13, 2014, 03:47:20 PM
They didn't really put up much of a fight did they. Either their really good blokes... or there's more to it :-X

I've heard he has some pretty serious off-field issues
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: meow meow on October 13, 2014, 04:05:53 PM
21 is about right. He has a ton of talent but he has battled injury for most of his career and he'll probably be one of those players forever. 21 isn't a spud pick and Steven Wells will make sure it is put to good use.

He just wanted to get out of Geelong. Not the club, the city. I don't blame him.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Grazz on October 13, 2014, 04:06:26 PM
Is it just me or have contracts suddenly become not worth the paper they are written on.  ???
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Mr.Craig on October 13, 2014, 04:07:45 PM
Quote from: Grazz on October 13, 2014, 04:06:26 PM
Is it just me or have contracts suddenly become not worth the paper they are written on.  ???

I'll give you a five year contract if you retract that statement.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: WCarey18 on October 13, 2014, 04:12:14 PM
Quote from: Mr.Craig on October 13, 2014, 04:07:45 PM
Quote from: Grazz on October 13, 2014, 04:06:26 PM
Is it just me or have contracts suddenly become not worth the paper they are written on.  ???

I'll give you a five year contract if you retract that statement.

Only if its front loaded.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Grazz on October 13, 2014, 04:18:29 PM
Quote from: Mr.Craig on October 13, 2014, 04:07:45 PM
Quote from: Grazz on October 13, 2014, 04:06:26 PM
Is it just me or have contracts suddenly become not worth the paper they are written on.  ???

I'll give you a five year contract if you retract that statement.


Quote from: WCarey18 on October 13, 2014, 04:12:14 PM
Quote from: Mr.Craig on October 13, 2014, 04:07:45 PM
Quote from: Grazz on October 13, 2014, 04:06:26 PM
Is it just me or have contracts suddenly become not worth the paper they are written on.  ???

I'll give you a five year contract if you retract that statement.

Only if its front loaded.

Lol, gotta say the amount of contacted players saying im out, oh by the way i want to go here is making me think whats the point of a contract these days.  :-\
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Ringo on October 13, 2014, 05:24:54 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on October 13, 2014, 03:38:42 PM
done deal

http://www.lions.com.au/brisbanelions/news/2014-10-13/lions-land-christensen

The Brisbane Lions today lodged the paperwork for a trade that will see former Geelong premiership player Allen Christensen join the Club.

The Lions acquired the talented 23-year-old midfielder in return for Pick No.21, which the Club received from GWS in exchange for veteran defender, Joel Patfull.
I would take Patful for Christensen anyday which is effectively what this trade is  ;D ;D
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: WCarey18 on October 13, 2014, 05:27:19 PM
Quote from: Ringo on October 13, 2014, 05:24:54 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on October 13, 2014, 03:38:42 PM
done deal

http://www.lions.com.au/brisbanelions/news/2014-10-13/lions-land-christensen

The Brisbane Lions today lodged the paperwork for a trade that will see former Geelong premiership player Allen Christensen join the Club.

The Lions acquired the talented 23-year-old midfielder in return for Pick No.21, which the Club received from GWS in exchange for veteran defender, Joel Patfull.
I would take Patful for Christensen anyday which is effectively what this trade is  ;D ;D

Agreed, good win for the Lions!
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Jukes on October 13, 2014, 05:29:55 PM
Quote from: Ringo on October 13, 2014, 05:24:54 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on October 13, 2014, 03:38:42 PM
done deal

http://www.lions.com.au/brisbanelions/news/2014-10-13/lions-land-christensen

The Brisbane Lions today lodged the paperwork for a trade that will see former Geelong premiership player Allen Christensen join the Club.

The Lions acquired the talented 23-year-old midfielder in return for Pick No.21, which the Club received from GWS in exchange for veteran defender, Joel Patfull.
I would take Patful for Christensen anyday which is effectively what this trade is  ;D ;D

You could look at it as a two-time best and fairest winner for a guy who has missed 30 games in four years...

Really could go either way, hopefully Christensen goes bang though for my axviii side :3
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Capper on October 13, 2014, 05:40:45 PM
Quote from: Jukes on October 13, 2014, 05:29:55 PM
Quote from: Ringo on October 13, 2014, 05:24:54 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on October 13, 2014, 03:38:42 PM
done deal

http://www.lions.com.au/brisbanelions/news/2014-10-13/lions-land-christensen

The Brisbane Lions today lodged the paperwork for a trade that will see former Geelong premiership player Allen Christensen join the Club.

The Lions acquired the talented 23-year-old midfielder in return for Pick No.21, which the Club received from GWS in exchange for veteran defender, Joel Patfull.
I would take Patful for Christensen anyday which is effectively what this trade is  ;D ;D

You could look at it as a two-time best and fairest winner for a guy who has missed 30 games in four years...

Really could go either way, hopefully Christensen goes bang though for my axviii side :3
What would have been interesting is if Patful went to the Swans instead. There would be no way that the Swans would give up their first pickso it would have been the Esky pick (late 2nd round) which probably wouldnt have got the job done
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Ringo on October 13, 2014, 05:52:48 PM
Our win then TABS and you can blame the AFL if you like for changing rules for you.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Toga on October 13, 2014, 06:13:04 PM
Quote from: meow meow on October 13, 2014, 04:05:53 PM
21 is about right. He has a ton of talent but he has battled injury for most of his career and he'll probably be one of those players forever. 21 isn't a spud pick and Steven Wells will make sure it is put to good use.

^
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Nige on October 13, 2014, 06:41:20 PM
Anthony Hudson has reported on 1116 SEN that North Melbourne's Kieran Harper could be traded by the time trade week wraps up on Thursday at 2pm.

Harper, who has suffered an array of injuries since being selected at pick 23 in the 2010 National Draft could also be delisted by the Roos, who will re-list him as a rookie unless he is snapped up as a delisted free agent or selected by another club in the rookie draft.

Harper has played 40 games since debuting in 2011.



Brett Anderson has reported on 1116 SEN that the Western Bulldogs have shown some interested in Richmond defender, Matthew Dea. The Bulldogs could sign him during the delisted free agency period on November 1st, with Richmond set to delist the 23 year-old.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Memphistopheles on October 13, 2014, 07:15:25 PM
Quote from: Big  Mac on October 13, 2014, 03:59:16 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on October 13, 2014, 03:47:20 PM
They didn't really put up much of a fight did they. Either their really good blokes... or there's more to it :-X

I've heard he has some pretty serious off-field issues

I have heard this as well. Really surprised the back story hasn't leaked out yet but that's credit to the club I think.

I'm not sure why he was so keen to go to Queensland but I know he definitely wanted out of Geelong for an off-field reason and the Cats were willing enough to accommodate a deal where they get slightly unders for him so they must have been aware of this.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Nige on October 13, 2014, 07:27:20 PM
Sam McClure ‏@sam_mcclure 41s42 seconds ago

Hawthorn big wraps for Suban. Were seeking straight swap deal for Shoenmakers. Ross Lyon declined.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Ziplock on October 13, 2014, 07:34:20 PM
Quote from: meow meow on October 13, 2014, 01:53:31 PM
Quote from: brad on October 13, 2014, 01:50:13 PM
Quote from: meow meow on October 13, 2014, 01:48:23 PM
If GWS don't trade Boyd, something tells me that there might be another wooden spoon in our future in 2015. We'll get him now, or next year with pick 1. GWS are just delaying the inevitable, same as we're doing if we keep Griffen.

think we're in the box seat again for pick 1

Haha probably. How many is that, 27 spoons now? Either way, Boyd could just refuse to sign, refuse to agree to any trades, put himself in the draft and the Giants end up with nothing while Boyd ends up back in Vic on a huge contract.
Quote from: JROO8 on October 13, 2014, 01:24:07 PM
Quote from: Nige on October 13, 2014, 01:17:05 PM
Quote from: JROO8 on October 13, 2014, 11:50:40 AM
Wow! Don't blame him though, he'd be getting a massive offer. Remember how much they offered Lonergan?
That's definitely what they'll throw at him.

Patton gone for a majority of, if not, the season and if Boyd goes... Cam McCarthy could be getting a fair few games!
@srahul_35: The Bulldogs have offered Boyd $5.5m/6 years and $3m over the first 2 years. How can you blame a 19yo for wanting that much money?

100% fair enough Boyd wanting to leave for that money. That being said, I don't think the giants will move him on, unless there's something substantial and he can't walk atm, he's still contracted. I know it'd be best for Boyd, but honestly I  really don't like draftees moving after a single season.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Nige on October 13, 2014, 07:39:15 PM
Stevo reckons Boyd's been offered $1.1m a year for at least 5 years, maybe 6 or 7.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: WCarey18 on October 13, 2014, 07:42:40 PM
Quote from: Nige on October 13, 2014, 07:39:15 PM
Stevo reckons Boyd's been offered $1.1m a year for at least 5 years, maybe 6 or 7.

In a contract that will overshadow Buddys for years to come....$20m over 15 years.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Mat0369 on October 13, 2014, 07:43:56 PM
That is ridiculous money to offer a kid that has barely played any football.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Jay on October 13, 2014, 07:44:11 PM
Hate the whole concept of these young kids that have proved nothing getting to choose where they want to play. If they're contracted, they should have no right to leave unless there are circumstances greater than football e.g. Beams wanting to be with his Dad.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Ricochet on October 13, 2014, 07:45:25 PM
Dont mind our interest in Schoey. Doubt we'd let Subes go though
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Big Mac on October 13, 2014, 07:49:43 PM
Quote from: Jayman on October 13, 2014, 07:44:11 PM
Hate the whole concept of these young kids that have proved nothing getting to choose where they want to play. If they're contracted, they should have no right to leave unless there are circumstances greater than football e.g. Beams wanting to be with his Dad.

Pretty easy to abuse that rule though
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Toga on October 13, 2014, 07:50:34 PM
That is a huge amount of money for a 19 year old kid :o
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Mr.Craig on October 13, 2014, 07:50:57 PM
Quote from: Nige on October 13, 2014, 07:27:20 PM
Sam McClure ‏@sam_mcclure 41s42 seconds ago

Hawthorn big wraps for Suban. Were seeking straight swap deal for Shoenmakers. Ross Lyon declined.

Surprised Freo didn't bite at that. Ibbo is struggling to play a full season, Johnson about to turn 30, McPharlin turning 33, Dawson turning 29. Tanner Smith has only played one game, Alex Pearce hasn't played a game. Silvagni will be coming back but it would have to be a concern for them surely.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Jay on October 13, 2014, 07:52:44 PM
Quote from: Big  Mac on October 13, 2014, 07:49:43 PM
Quote from: Jayman on October 13, 2014, 07:44:11 PM
Hate the whole concept of these young kids that have proved nothing getting to choose where they want to play. If they're contracted, they should have no right to leave unless there are circumstances greater than football e.g. Beams wanting to be with his Dad.

Pretty easy to abuse that rule though
Yeah of course. If a player wants out he should be traded to the club offering up the most in return. None of this nominating a club crap.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Ricochet on October 13, 2014, 07:55:37 PM
Quote from: Mr.Craig on October 13, 2014, 07:50:57 PM
Quote from: Nige on October 13, 2014, 07:27:20 PM
Sam McClure ‏@sam_mcclure 41s42 seconds ago

Hawthorn big wraps for Suban. Were seeking straight swap deal for Shoenmakers. Ross Lyon declined.

Surprised Freo didn't bite at that. Ibbo is struggling to play a full season, Johnson about to turn 30, McPharlin turning 33, Dawson turning 29. Tanner Smith has only played one game, Alex Pearce hasn't played a game. Silvagni will be coming back but it have to be a concern for them surely.
yeh its no secret that McPharlin's replacement is needed asap. But with quite a few key possie kids developing in the 2s the other key defender spots arent as much of a concern. Schoey would be perfect tho, would be surprised if we didn't have a crack
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Toga on October 13, 2014, 07:55:49 PM
Quote from: Jayman on October 13, 2014, 07:52:44 PM
If a player wants out he should be traded to the club offering up the most in return. None of this nominating a club crap.

This!

Players that are eligible for FA are allowed to nominate which club they would like to go to... Fair enough, most of these blokes have been loyal servants to their clubs for 7-8 years before they are eligible for FA. Kids that have only played 1-2 seasons should be able to nominate their state of choice, and then it's up to the club to find the best deal available to them
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Big Mac on October 13, 2014, 07:59:10 PM
Quote from: Jayman on October 13, 2014, 07:52:44 PM
Quote from: Big  Mac on October 13, 2014, 07:49:43 PM
Quote from: Jayman on October 13, 2014, 07:44:11 PM
Hate the whole concept of these young kids that have proved nothing getting to choose where they want to play. If they're contracted, they should have no right to leave unless there are circumstances greater than football e.g. Beams wanting to be with his Dad.

Pretty easy to abuse that rule though
Yeah of course. If a player wants out he should be traded to the club offering up the most in return. None of this nominating a club crap.

Yeh that sounds good. It would also help to separate free agency and trading

Edit: What Toges said
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Ricochet on October 13, 2014, 08:01:47 PM
Gotta also look at it from other side fellas. Clubs will be reluctant to trade for a player if he doesn't want to go to a club/state. Nominating clubs has been going on foreva, it just wasnt made public as much
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Ringo on October 13, 2014, 08:41:10 PM
Quote from: Toga on October 13, 2014, 07:55:49 PM
Quote from: Jayman on October 13, 2014, 07:52:44 PM
If a player wants out he should be traded to the club offering up the most in return. None of this nominating a club crap.

This!

Players that are eligible for FA are allowed to nominate which club they would like to go to... Fair enough, most of these blokes have been loyal servants to their clubs for 7-8 years before they are eligible for FA. Kids that have only played 1-2 seasons should be able to nominate their state of choice, and then it's up to the club to find the best deal available to them
I agree 100% with this.  A club has spent at least 2 years developing players and as such should be entitled to fair compensation for their investment by getting the best possible deal for the player but keeping his wishes as well.
Looking at our go home boys from last year Longer Nominated St Kilda, Karnezis nominated Collingwood Docherty nominated Carlton all saying they wanted to return to Victoria.  Should we not have had the right to negotiate with all Victorian Clubs and then accepting best offer, What right has young kids to nominate clubs next we will have draftees refusing to go although we started to see that already.  Tme for the AFL to grow some intestinal fortitude and look after clubs who develop youngsters only to see them go to other clubs for very little return.
As such disagree with you Richo as we are looking after the players wish just not allowing them to dictate which is the case at present. Think until players become FA they should be forbidden to nominate club of choice,
We now have at least 2 clubs in every state which should allow clubs to get the best possible deal for their players.

Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Toga on October 13, 2014, 08:58:11 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on October 13, 2014, 08:01:47 PM
Gotta also look at it from other side fellas. Clubs will be reluctant to trade for a player if he doesn't want to go to a club/state. Nominating clubs has been going on foreva, it just wasnt made public as much

Yeah I agree that clubs will be reluctant to trade for a bloke that doesn't want to go to a particular state, but O'Rourke for instance... What's stopping him from saying I want to be traded to Victoria, letting the Giants negotiate the best deal for him from one of the Vic teams...

He gets to go to Victoria as he wanted, and the club gets the best possible compensation for the investment they made into him two years ago. Win/win, unlike the current scenarios folding out, particularly Brisbane's misfortune last year
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Grazz on October 13, 2014, 09:03:40 PM
The AFL need to grow a pair and start clamping down on rookies with only a minimum amount of service to their draft club. You sign a contract then you must honour that contract. I have no dramas with FA's that have put years into a club looking to secure their futures. If the AFL are unable to clamp down on the rookies then i can see a massive problem down the track for all clubs. For example a bottom club uses pick 1 or 2 to secure a gun rookie spend a year or two grooming them only to see a club with a sizeable amount of spare cash offer up 7 figure deals to lure them away. What ever happened to clubs not being allowed to even communicate with a player under contract either directly or via their manager, large fines should be in place to deter this for the clubs that try and removal of manager accreditation if said manager is party to it. A contract is a contract you need to man up and honour it.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Big Mac on October 13, 2014, 09:08:36 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on October 13, 2014, 08:01:47 PM
Gotta also look at it from other side fellas. Clubs will be reluctant to trade for a player if he doesn't want to go to a club/state. Nominating clubs has been going on foreva, it just wasnt made public as much

But then players would only request a trade if they were happy to go anywhere wouldn't they?
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Nige on October 13, 2014, 09:33:54 PM
Gary Ayres apparently interested in the Doggies coaching job!  8)
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Grazz on October 13, 2014, 09:45:46 PM
Quote from: Big  Mac on October 13, 2014, 09:08:36 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on October 13, 2014, 08:01:47 PM
Gotta also look at it from other side fellas. Clubs will be reluctant to trade for a player if he doesn't want to go to a club/state. Nominating clubs has been going on foreva, it just wasnt made public as much

But then players would only request a trade if they were happy to go anywhere wouldn't they?

Yep correct. If you want out of a club bad enough then you would/should be willing to go anywhere as long as the money is equal or better.
If non FA's or contracted players are allowed to dictate where they go then you will see over time (not long) the AFL comp become so lop sided that only 7-8 clubs will continually be the ones pushing for a flag. Prior to free agency coming in the comp was about as fair as it could be if the AFL allow non FA's and contracted players to dictate now then it will quickly spiral into a comp we dont recognise anymore as being on a fair and level playing field, the bottom clubs will continue to have young players poached. Sure they may get low draft picks as compo only to see it happen again and again and they will circle the bottom of the comp continually.
Last but not least if you want to break a contract then you sit out of AFL football for 12 months (1 season) unless there is serious and legitimate reasons for you wanting to do so. Going home cause you miss mum isn't one of those reasons. Toughen up princesses your old enough to vote, to drink and call the shots on your own life and how its done, man up. If your going to miss mummy then dont go in the first place and screw over a club that has paid you a good wage and set you on the path to a well paid career.
If your good enough you'll earn your dollars but you have to show loyalty to those that gave you an opportunity in a Competition you begged to be part of.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Nige on October 13, 2014, 09:57:39 PM
Brett Anderson ‏@BrettAndersonIF 11m11 minutes ago

Adam Cooney is likely to be a Bomber by end of trade period. How deal looks remains up in the air though. #TradeSENtral #AFLTrades
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Jukes on October 13, 2014, 10:04:14 PM
Heppell, Watson, Cooney, Goddard, Stanton, Zaharakis, Howlett, Myers

#EliteEight
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Jay on October 13, 2014, 10:07:55 PM
Quote from: Jukes on October 13, 2014, 10:04:14 PM
Heppell, Watson, Cooney, Goddard, Stanton, Zaharakis, Howlett, Myers

#Suspensions
Fixed
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Mailman the 2nd on October 13, 2014, 10:08:00 PM
Quote from: Jukes on October 13, 2014, 10:04:14 PM
Heppell, Watson, Cooney, Goddard, Stanton, Zaharakis, Howlett, Myers

#EliteEight

#EliteThreePlusFiveOthers
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: elephants on October 13, 2014, 10:08:57 PM
Hahaha!
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Grazz on October 13, 2014, 10:13:07 PM
Quote from: Mailman the 2nd on October 13, 2014, 10:08:00 PM
Quote from: Jukes on October 13, 2014, 10:04:14 PM
Heppell, Watson, Cooney, Goddard, Stanton, Zaharakis, Howlett, Myers

#EliteEight

#EliteThreePlusFiveOthers

Lol (http://i1143.photobucket.com/albums/n624/Grazz64/e8125b5ex50_zps6ece5d08.gif) (http://s1143.photobucket.com/user/Grazz64/media/e8125b5ex50_zps6ece5d08.gif.html)
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: SydneyRox on October 13, 2014, 10:29:48 PM
Quote from: Mailman the 2nd on October 13, 2014, 10:08:00 PM
Quote from: Jukes on October 13, 2014, 10:04:14 PM
Heppell, Watson, Cooney, Goddard, Stanton, Zaharakis, Howlett, Myers

#EliteEight

#EliteThreePlusFiveOthers

;D
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Ricochet on October 13, 2014, 10:35:00 PM
Quote from: Ringo on October 13, 2014, 08:41:10 PM
Quote from: Toga on October 13, 2014, 07:55:49 PM
Quote from: Jayman on October 13, 2014, 07:52:44 PM
If a player wants out he should be traded to the club offering up the most in return. None of this nominating a club crap.

This!

Players that are eligible for FA are allowed to nominate which club they would like to go to... Fair enough, most of these blokes have been loyal servants to their clubs for 7-8 years before they are eligible for FA. Kids that have only played 1-2 seasons should be able to nominate their state of choice, and then it's up to the club to find the best deal available to them
I agree 100% with this.  A club has spent at least 2 years developing players and as such should be entitled to fair compensation for their investment by getting the best possible deal for the player but keeping his wishes as well.
Looking at our go home boys from last year Longer Nominated St Kilda, Karnezis nominated Collingwood Docherty nominated Carlton all saying they wanted to return to Victoria.  Should we not have had the right to negotiate with all Victorian Clubs and then accepting best offer, What right has young kids to nominate clubs next we will have draftees refusing to go although we started to see that already.  Tme for the AFL to grow some intestinal fortitude and look after clubs who develop youngsters only to see them go to other clubs for very little return.
As such disagree with you Richo as we are looking after the players wish just not allowing them to dictate which is the case at present. Think until players become FA they should be forbidden to nominate club of choice,
We now have at least 2 clubs in every state which should allow clubs to get the best possible deal for their players.
Think you missed my main point mate. Nominating clubs isn't new. 40 years ago if a player wanted a trade they would nominate a club of choice and the club would do their best to faciltate a trade to that club. Its not so much dictating as what its made out to be, its just clubs will try and still look after the player leaving as much as possible, as long as they can work out a fair deal.

Its just that its more public and in the media now
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Jukes on October 13, 2014, 10:41:43 PM
Future goat
Brownlow medallist and captain
Brownlow medallist
Dual-AA and 2013 B&F
Best outside player in the AFL
Most clutch player in the comp and 2012 B&F
A guy who can kick 5 from the midfield in big games when we need it (Crows last year, tigers this year...) and only like 16
Most underrated player on the side, extremely damaging kick

That's an elite 8 (it's a basketball reference if you didn't know)
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Samsturmfels on October 13, 2014, 10:42:08 PM
Mark Whiley has attracted significant interest from Collingwood, which is proving to be a stumbling block that is currently holding up a proposed deal for Carlton.
Source: Facebook,  AFL draft, trade, free agency, list and general news
Edit: not true
http://m.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/kristian-jaksch-and-mark-whiley-set-to-be-traded-to-carlton-from-gws-giants/story-fn69a32t-1227089202874
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Jay on October 13, 2014, 10:44:07 PM
Quote from: Jukes on October 13, 2014, 10:41:43 PM
Future goat
Brownlow medallist and captain
Brownlow medallist
Dual-AA and 2013 B&F
Best outside player in the AFL
Most clutch player in the comp and 2012 B&F
A guy who can kick 5 from the midfield in big games when we need it (Crows last year, tigers this year...) and only like 16
Most underrated player on the side, extremely damaging kick

That's an elite 8 (it's a basketball reference if you didn't know)
Its not 8 when 5 of them won't be eligible to play next year...
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Jukes on October 13, 2014, 10:45:27 PM
Oh, from that drug scandal that nobody has ever seen a single shred of evidence from? Yeah, seems likely.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Ricochet on October 13, 2014, 10:45:38 PM
Quote from: Big  Mac on October 13, 2014, 09:08:36 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on October 13, 2014, 08:01:47 PM
Gotta also look at it from other side fellas. Clubs will be reluctant to trade for a player if he doesn't want to go to a club/state. Nominating clubs has been going on foreva, it just wasnt made public as much

But then players would only request a trade if they were happy to go anywhere wouldn't they?
Not sure I follow man? Players request a trade, nominate where they want to go, then the club tries to make it happen. If they can get them there they will, if not they'll look elsewhere. Similar to Collingwood speaking to GWS when they thought they couldn't get a fair trade from Brissie.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Jay on October 13, 2014, 10:46:37 PM
Quote from: Jukes on October 13, 2014, 10:45:27 PM
Oh, from that drug scandal that nobody has ever seen a single shred of evidence from? Yeah, seems likely.
The captain admitting he took a banned substance isn't enough evidence?
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Grazz on October 13, 2014, 10:51:04 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on October 13, 2014, 10:35:00 PM
Quote from: Ringo on October 13, 2014, 08:41:10 PM
Quote from: Toga on October 13, 2014, 07:55:49 PM
Quote from: Jayman on October 13, 2014, 07:52:44 PM
If a player wants out he should be traded to the club offering up the most in return. None of this nominating a club crap.

This!

Players that are eligible for FA are allowed to nominate which club they would like to go to... Fair enough, most of these blokes have been loyal servants to their clubs for 7-8 years before they are eligible for FA. Kids that have only played 1-2 seasons should be able to nominate their state of choice, and then it's up to the club to find the best deal available to them
I agree 100% with this.  A club has spent at least 2 years developing players and as such should be entitled to fair compensation for their investment by getting the best possible deal for the player but keeping his wishes as well.
Looking at our go home boys from last year Longer Nominated St Kilda, Karnezis nominated Collingwood Docherty nominated Carlton all saying they wanted to return to Victoria.  Should we not have had the right to negotiate with all Victorian Clubs and then accepting best offer, What right has young kids to nominate clubs next we will have draftees refusing to go although we started to see that already.  Tme for the AFL to grow some intestinal fortitude and look after clubs who develop youngsters only to see them go to other clubs for very little return.
As such disagree with you Richo as we are looking after the players wish just not allowing them to dictate which is the case at present. Think until players become FA they should be forbidden to nominate club of choice,
We now have at least 2 clubs in every state which should allow clubs to get the best possible deal for their players.
Think you missed my main point mate. Nominating clubs isn't new. 40 years ago if a player wanted a trade they would nominate a club of choice and the club would do their best to faciltate a trade to that club. Its not so much dictating as what its made out to be, its just clubs will try and still look after the player leaving as much as possible, as long as they can work out a fair deal.

Its just that its more public and in the media now

Nuh i didnt miss it and i agree it has gone on for along time. I neglected to mention that the clubs have brought some of this on themselves by accommodating players so much wanting out of contracts. Its a mess and i dont have all the answers but enforcing contracts would be a good place to start.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Jukes on October 13, 2014, 10:53:12 PM
Quote from: Jayman on October 13, 2014, 10:46:37 PM
Quote from: Jukes on October 13, 2014, 10:45:27 PM
Oh, from that drug scandal that nobody has ever seen a single shred of evidence from? Yeah, seems likely.
The captain admitting he took a banned substance isn't enough evidence?

The banned substance that wasn't/isn't actually banned? Yeah that.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Ricochet on October 13, 2014, 10:58:45 PM
Quote from: Grazz on October 13, 2014, 10:51:04 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on October 13, 2014, 10:35:00 PM
Quote from: Ringo on October 13, 2014, 08:41:10 PM
Quote from: Toga on October 13, 2014, 07:55:49 PM
Quote from: Jayman on October 13, 2014, 07:52:44 PM
If a player wants out he should be traded to the club offering up the most in return. None of this nominating a club crap.

This!

Players that are eligible for FA are allowed to nominate which club they would like to go to... Fair enough, most of these blokes have been loyal servants to their clubs for 7-8 years before they are eligible for FA. Kids that have only played 1-2 seasons should be able to nominate their state of choice, and then it's up to the club to find the best deal available to them
I agree 100% with this.  A club has spent at least 2 years developing players and as such should be entitled to fair compensation for their investment by getting the best possible deal for the player but keeping his wishes as well.
Looking at our go home boys from last year Longer Nominated St Kilda, Karnezis nominated Collingwood Docherty nominated Carlton all saying they wanted to return to Victoria.  Should we not have had the right to negotiate with all Victorian Clubs and then accepting best offer, What right has young kids to nominate clubs next we will have draftees refusing to go although we started to see that already.  Tme for the AFL to grow some intestinal fortitude and look after clubs who develop youngsters only to see them go to other clubs for very little return.
As such disagree with you Richo as we are looking after the players wish just not allowing them to dictate which is the case at present. Think until players become FA they should be forbidden to nominate club of choice,
We now have at least 2 clubs in every state which should allow clubs to get the best possible deal for their players.
Think you missed my main point mate. Nominating clubs isn't new. 40 years ago if a player wanted a trade they would nominate a club of choice and the club would do their best to faciltate a trade to that club. Its not so much dictating as what its made out to be, its just clubs will try and still look after the player leaving as much as possible, as long as they can work out a fair deal.

Its just that its more public and in the media now

Nuh i didnt miss it and i agree it has gone on for along time. I neglected to mention that the clubs have brought some of this on themselves by accommodating players so much wanting out of contracts. Its a mess and i dont have all the answers but enforcing contracts would be a good place to start.
yeh yep this breaking contract stuff is very worrying. Just a lot jumping up and down about players nominating clubs when it has always happened. Its just a process of trade
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Grazz on October 13, 2014, 11:08:38 PM
Agree. Enforce contracts or tell them to sit out for a season their choice. I can't believe the AFL can not see where this all heading considering they are desperate for a fair and even comp.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Toga on October 13, 2014, 11:09:37 PM
This is going to be a big issue in the next decade or so with the huge long-term contracts that some players are getting/going to be getting in coming years after a certain someone changed the game!
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Toga on October 13, 2014, 11:12:29 PM
Fox Sports reporting that the Brisbane/Collingwood deal is as good as done..

"The Magpies have broken the Beams deadlock with an agreement that will net the club picks No. 5, 25 and Crisp from the Lions in exchange for the onball superstar."

http://www.foxsports.com.au/afl/afl-premiership/jack-crisp-completes-dayne-beams-trade-between-collingwood-and-brisbane/story-e6frf3e3-1227089247224
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Grazz on October 13, 2014, 11:15:24 PM
Quote from: Toga on October 13, 2014, 11:12:29 PM
Fox Sports reporting that the Brisbane/Collingwood deal is as good as done..

"The Magpies have broken the Beams deadlock with an agreement that will net the club picks No. 5, 25 and Crisp from the Lions in exchange for the onball superstar."

http://www.foxsports.com.au/afl/afl-premiership/jack-crisp-completes-dayne-beams-trade-between-collingwood-and-brisbane/story-e6frf3e3-1227089247224

Congrats Lions, building a very good list after being savaged last year.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Justin Bieber on October 14, 2014, 12:23:57 AM
Quote from: Jukes on October 13, 2014, 10:04:14 PM
Heppell, Watson, Cooney, Goddard, Stanton, Zaharakis, Howlett, Myers

#EliteEight

Who's Myers? And Howlett? Also surely Gwilt gets a mention??
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: meow meow on October 14, 2014, 12:30:20 AM
You'll have to give up a 3rd round pick for Cooney, that's how elite he has been lately.

I'd still back Bont over those 8 combined.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Grazz on October 14, 2014, 12:32:49 AM
So far Brisbane winning the trade period comfortably. Most improved by a long shot.  :o
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Ringo on October 14, 2014, 09:43:51 AM
Quote from: Grazz on October 14, 2014, 12:32:49 AM
So far Brisbane winning the trade period comfortably. Most improved by a long shot.  :o
Yep even if it means missing out on draft picks.  With the recruiting last year and the trdaes this year no real need for early draft picks this year.  Only issue we have is a Key Forward is missing while youngsters Close, Freeman, McStay develop.
Will need a key defender as well in the future with Merrett and Maguire both 30.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: GoLions on October 14, 2014, 09:55:11 AM
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2014-10-14/green-light-for-beams

Can't wait :D
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Jroo on October 14, 2014, 10:02:15 AM
Wished they'd hurry up and announce the Beams deal, that's holding up a few trades atm.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Ricochet on October 14, 2014, 10:03:46 AM
Quote from: JROO8 on October 14, 2014, 10:02:15 AM
Wished they'd hurry up and announce the Beams deal, that's holding up a few trades atm.
yeh man keen to see what else there is. Hoping for a few surprises
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: GoLions on October 14, 2014, 10:05:40 AM
Quote from: Ricochet on October 14, 2014, 10:03:46 AM
Quote from: JROO8 on October 14, 2014, 10:02:15 AM
Wished they'd hurry up and announce the Beams deal, that's holding up a few trades atm.
yeh man keen to see what else there is. Hoping for a few surprises
Haven't had enough already? haha
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Ricochet on October 14, 2014, 10:10:25 AM
Quote from: GoLions on October 14, 2014, 10:05:40 AM
Quote from: Ricochet on October 14, 2014, 10:03:46 AM
Quote from: JROO8 on October 14, 2014, 10:02:15 AM
Wished they'd hurry up and announce the Beams deal, that's holding up a few trades atm.
yeh man keen to see what else there is. Hoping for a few surprises
Haven't had enough already? haha
haha I'm allowed to be greedy :P

something along to the lines of Jezza Cameron signs 10 year deal with Freo
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: GoLions on October 14, 2014, 10:12:30 AM
Quote from: Ricochet on October 14, 2014, 10:10:25 AM
Quote from: GoLions on October 14, 2014, 10:05:40 AM
Quote from: Ricochet on October 14, 2014, 10:03:46 AM
Quote from: JROO8 on October 14, 2014, 10:02:15 AM
Wished they'd hurry up and announce the Beams deal, that's holding up a few trades atm.
yeh man keen to see what else there is. Hoping for a few surprises
Haven't had enough already? haha
haha I'm allowed to be greedy :P

something along to the lines of Jezza Cameron signs 10 year deal with Freo
And Fyfe to Brisbane? Sounds good to me :)
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Ricochet on October 14, 2014, 10:15:01 AM
Quote from: GoLions on October 14, 2014, 10:12:30 AM
Quote from: Ricochet on October 14, 2014, 10:10:25 AM
Quote from: GoLions on October 14, 2014, 10:05:40 AM
Quote from: Ricochet on October 14, 2014, 10:03:46 AM
Quote from: JROO8 on October 14, 2014, 10:02:15 AM
Wished they'd hurry up and announce the Beams deal, that's holding up a few trades atm.
yeh man keen to see what else there is. Hoping for a few surprises
Haven't had enough already? haha
haha I'm allowed to be greedy :P

something along to the lines of Jezza Cameron signs 10 year deal with Freo
And Fyfe to Brisbane? Sounds good to me :)
throw in the Beams brothers and Hanley and you sir have a deal
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: MTTY on October 14, 2014, 10:15:21 AM
http://www.melbournefc.com.au/news/2014-10-14/trengove-reaggravates-navicular-injury

Trengove deal is off
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: GoLions on October 14, 2014, 10:18:01 AM
Quote from: Ricochet on October 14, 2014, 10:15:01 AM
Quote from: GoLions on October 14, 2014, 10:12:30 AM
Quote from: Ricochet on October 14, 2014, 10:10:25 AM
Quote from: GoLions on October 14, 2014, 10:05:40 AM
Quote from: Ricochet on October 14, 2014, 10:03:46 AM
Quote from: JROO8 on October 14, 2014, 10:02:15 AM
Wished they'd hurry up and announce the Beams deal, that's holding up a few trades atm.
yeh man keen to see what else there is. Hoping for a few surprises
Haven't had enough already? haha
haha I'm allowed to be greedy :P

something along to the lines of Jezza Cameron signs 10 year deal with Freo
And Fyfe to Brisbane? Sounds good to me :)
throw in the Beams brothers and Hanley and you sir have a deal
We'll give you McGuane instead. That sounds pretty fair to me.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Jroo on October 14, 2014, 10:18:39 AM
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Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Nige on October 14, 2014, 10:20:49 AM
Quote from: MTTY on October 14, 2014, 10:15:21 AM
http://www.melbournefc.com.au/news/2014-10-14/trengove-reaggravates-navicular-injury

Trengove deal is off
:(

Oh Weller, come on down Lachie.  ;) :P
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: kilbluff1985 on October 14, 2014, 10:20:54 AM
(http://i57.tinypic.com/2vjahe9.jpg)
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: GoLions on October 14, 2014, 10:22:18 AM
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on October 14, 2014, 10:20:54 AM
(http://i57.tinypic.com/2vjahe9.jpg)
It took me longer to get that than I care to admit
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Toga on October 14, 2014, 10:22:29 AM
Quote from: MTTY on October 14, 2014, 10:15:21 AM
http://www.melbournefc.com.au/news/2014-10-14/trengove-reaggravates-navicular-injury

Trengove deal is off

Unlucky for Jack but gotta say I'm very glad this came out now rather than after a trade to Richmond.. Hopefully he can get himself right
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Toga on October 14, 2014, 10:23:50 AM
Quote from: Nige on October 14, 2014, 10:20:49 AM]
Oh Weller, come on down Lachie.  ;) :P

You've come around at last! :P
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Ricochet on October 14, 2014, 10:24:16 AM
Feel sorry for the kid. Hopefully the surgery is a success and he can have a decent year
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: kilbluff1985 on October 14, 2014, 10:25:16 AM
Quote from: GoLions on October 14, 2014, 10:22:18 AM
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on October 14, 2014, 10:20:54 AM
(http://i57.tinypic.com/2vjahe9.jpg)
It took me longer to get that than I care to admit

yeah Nige interrupted as usual  :P
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Jroo on October 14, 2014, 10:26:12 AM
Quote from: Toga on October 14, 2014, 10:22:29 AM
Quote from: MTTY on October 14, 2014, 10:15:21 AM
http://www.melbournefc.com.au/news/2014-10-14/trengove-reaggravates-navicular-injury

Trengove deal is off

Unlucky for Jack but gotta say I'm very glad this came out now rather than after a trade to Richmond.. Hopefully he can get himself right
Yeah that's the only positive I guess. As you said, hopefully he get's his body right as when he does, we all know how good he can be.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Nige on October 14, 2014, 10:37:00 AM
Quote from: Toga on October 14, 2014, 10:23:50 AM
Quote from: Nige on October 14, 2014, 10:20:49 AM]
Oh Weller, come on down Lachie.  ;) :P

You've come around at last! :P
I'll be honest, I still want Ahern more. Basically conceded that Laverde will be gone which means, it's either Ahern or Weller which is a flip of the coin tbh.  ;)
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Grazz on October 14, 2014, 11:17:03 AM
Quote from: Ringo on October 14, 2014, 09:43:51 AM
Quote from: Grazz on October 14, 2014, 12:32:49 AM
So far Brisbane winning the trade period comfortably. Most improved by a long shot.  :o
Yep even if it means missing out on draft picks.  With the recruiting last year and the trdaes this year no real need for early draft picks this year.  Only issue we have is a Key Forward is missing while youngsters Close, Freeman, McStay develop.
Will need a key defender as well in the future with Merrett and Maguire both 30.

Absolutely, id sacrifice a couple of draft picks to gain what you have so far without a second thought.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Ricochet on October 14, 2014, 11:20:14 AM
Wow thought it was close to being finalised

"It's not done + dusted yet. There's still a little bit of water to go under the bridge," - Paul Connors
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: kilbluff1985 on October 14, 2014, 11:23:22 AM
Eddie lied  >:(
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: T Dog on October 14, 2014, 11:24:13 AM
A "teaser" on SEN. Huddo says big name coach story will be released in next half hour. No hints though  >:(
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Toga on October 14, 2014, 11:38:37 AM
Apparently Bulldogs might be in to Brett Ratten?
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Nige on October 14, 2014, 11:40:32 AM
Quote from: Toga on October 14, 2014, 11:38:37 AM
Apparently Bulldogs might be in to Brett Ratten?
They've got some bloody solid candidates, that's good news.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Ricochet on October 14, 2014, 11:42:06 AM
Quote from: Toga on October 14, 2014, 11:38:37 AM
Apparently Bulldogs might be in to Brett Ratten?
Good get if true. Just done another apprenticeship under the best in the business
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Ricochet on October 14, 2014, 12:03:05 PM
From Nick Bowen

Jonathan Giles nominates Essendon as his preferred new home over Adelaide. Story on http://AFL.com.au  soon
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: GoLions on October 14, 2014, 12:03:12 PM
11.50am: BREAKING - exclusive news from @AFL_Nick coming up very soon on AFL.com.au regarding a player move. Stay tuned!
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: GoLions on October 14, 2014, 12:03:54 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on October 14, 2014, 12:03:05 PM
From Nick Bowen

Jonathan Giles nominates Essendon as his preferred new home over Adelaide. Story on http://AFL.com.au  soon
I'm guessing that was it, hahaha
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Ricochet on October 14, 2014, 12:05:07 PM
Quote from: GoLions on October 14, 2014, 12:03:54 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on October 14, 2014, 12:03:05 PM
From Nick Bowen

Jonathan Giles nominates Essendon as his preferred new home over Adelaide. Story on http://AFL.com.au  soon
I'm guessing that was it, hahaha
Nah probably just "Pearce Hanley to Fremantle"... nothing too major ;)
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: GoLions on October 14, 2014, 12:05:39 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on October 14, 2014, 12:05:07 PM
Quote from: GoLions on October 14, 2014, 12:03:54 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on October 14, 2014, 12:03:05 PM
From Nick Bowen

Jonathan Giles nominates Essendon as his preferred new home over Adelaide. Story on http://AFL.com.au  soon
I'm guessing that was it, hahaha
Nah probably just "Pearce Hanley to Fremantle"... nothing too major ;)
You watch your tongue
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Ricochet on October 14, 2014, 12:06:16 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on October 14, 2014, 12:03:05 PM
From Nick Bowen

Jonathan Giles nominates Essendon as his preferred new home over Adelaide. Story on http://AFL.com.au  soon
Here's the link

http://www.afl.com.au/news/2014-10-14/giles-picks-bombers
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Nige on October 14, 2014, 12:06:55 PM
Giles to Essendon should be a good move. Will fit in nicely with Ryder gone.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: RaisyDaisy on October 14, 2014, 12:08:58 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on October 14, 2014, 12:03:05 PM
From Nick Bowen

Jonathan Giles nominates Essendon as his preferred new home over Adelaide. Story on http://AFL.com.au  soon

Good decision with Ryder going
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Ringo on October 14, 2014, 12:12:25 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on October 14, 2014, 11:20:14 AM
Wow thought it was close to being finalised

"It's not done + dusted yet. There's still a little bit of water to go under the bridge," - Paul Connors
Heard on the grape vine that there was the possibility of a late pick being added by Pies so just wondering whether that is the sticking point. Do not think we need to go down that track just get it done with Picks 5, 25 and Crisp.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: kilbluff1985 on October 14, 2014, 12:14:08 PM
yeah i'm happy if we get Giles i like him is pretty handy forward so he and Belly can rotate
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Toga on October 14, 2014, 12:15:14 PM
Giles would be a very good pickup for the Dons, and it'd be a good career move for him as well IMO.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: JBs-Hawks on October 14, 2014, 12:19:05 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on October 14, 2014, 11:42:06 AM
Quote from: Toga on October 14, 2014, 11:38:37 AM
Apparently Bulldogs might be in to Brett Ratten?
Good get if true. Just done another apprenticeship under the best in the business
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Mr.Craig on October 14, 2014, 12:22:54 PM
Soooo, Crows have two ruckmen at the club and one of them has never played a game...

They better work quickly unless they want to draft someone.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Mr.Craig on October 14, 2014, 12:26:23 PM
What's the record for player turnover? Brisbane will be up to 12 if Crisp goes.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: TomK on October 14, 2014, 12:27:24 PM
Quote from: Mr.Craig on October 14, 2014, 12:22:54 PM
Soooo, Crows have two ruckmen at the club and one of them has never played a game...

They better work quickly unless they want to draft someone.
Lowden looks likely atm.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Toga on October 14, 2014, 12:28:45 PM
Quote from: Mr.Craig on October 14, 2014, 12:26:23 PM
What's the record for player turnover? Brisbane will be up to 12 if Crisp goes.

And I thought Richmond had a lot with 9 :P
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Ricochet on October 14, 2014, 12:35:50 PM
Quote from: Toga on October 14, 2014, 12:28:45 PM
Quote from: Mr.Craig on October 14, 2014, 12:26:23 PM
What's the record for player turnover? Brisbane will be up to 12 if Crisp goes.

And I thought Richmond had a lot with 9 :P
Pies last couple of years must be up there near the top with Brissie surely
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: T Dog on October 14, 2014, 12:39:06 PM
Vossy   :o  Midfield manager at Port
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Ricochet on October 14, 2014, 12:39:32 PM
wow thats a huge get
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: kilbluff1985 on October 14, 2014, 12:40:34 PM
being on the recruit with darren burgess would of played a big part in this i think
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: KoopKicka on October 14, 2014, 12:42:03 PM
Quote from: T Dog on October 14, 2014, 12:39:06 PM
Vossy   :o  Midfield manager at Port

Beat me to it. :(
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Rusty00 on October 14, 2014, 12:49:36 PM
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on October 14, 2014, 12:40:34 PM
being on the recruit with darren burgess would of played a big part in this i think
Shaun Hart being there as well wouldn't have hurt ;)
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: kilbluff1985 on October 14, 2014, 12:51:48 PM
Quote from: Rusty00 on October 14, 2014, 12:49:36 PM
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on October 14, 2014, 12:40:34 PM
being on the recruit with darren burgess would of played a big part in this i think
Shaun Hart being there as well wouldn't have hurt ;)

did you make the same comment on facebook? lol  :-X
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Rusty00 on October 14, 2014, 12:54:08 PM
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on October 14, 2014, 12:51:48 PM
Quote from: Rusty00 on October 14, 2014, 12:49:36 PM
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on October 14, 2014, 12:40:34 PM
being on the recruit with darren burgess would of played a big part in this i think
Shaun Hart being there as well wouldn't have hurt ;)

did you make the same comment on facebook? lol  :-X
haha, no I'm not a facebook regular ;)
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Bill Manspeaker on October 14, 2014, 12:54:33 PM
Rhys Stanley to the Cats for 21?

http://m.theage.com.au/afl/afl-news/saints-and-cats-talk-on-rhys-stanley-20141014-115pzx.html#ixzz3G4sTpVCm
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Noz on October 14, 2014, 01:02:32 PM
Vossy and Wagner reunite
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Ricochet on October 14, 2014, 01:13:16 PM
Quote from: brad on October 14, 2014, 12:54:33 PM
Rhys Stanley to the Cats for 21?

http://m.theage.com.au/afl/afl-news/saints-and-cats-talk-on-rhys-stanley-20141014-115pzx.html#ixzz3G4sTpVCm

Could be on here

http://www.saints.com.au/news/2014-10-14/trade-period-day-7

"We have had inquiries about Rhys Stanley from several clubs, as we have had about a number of our players. We will continue to explore any potential deal that is in line with our list management strategy," List Manager Ameet Bains tells SAINTS.com.au.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Ricochet on October 14, 2014, 01:13:59 PM
Glenn McFarlane ‏@MaccaHeraldSun  1m1 minute ago
@GoldCoastSUNS has offered @HawthornFC midfielder Mitch Hallahan a long-term deal. Likely to accept. More @superfooty
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: elephants on October 14, 2014, 01:18:14 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on October 14, 2014, 01:13:16 PM
Quote from: brad on October 14, 2014, 12:54:33 PM
Rhys Stanley to the Cats for 21?

http://m.theage.com.au/afl/afl-news/saints-and-cats-talk-on-rhys-stanley-20141014-115pzx.html#ixzz3G4sTpVCm

Could be on here

http://www.saints.com.au/news/2014-10-14/trade-period-day-7

"We have had inquiries about Rhys Stanley from several clubs, as we have had about a number of our players. We will continue to explore any potential deal that is in line with our list management strategy," List Manager Ameet Bains tells SAINTS.com.au.

Thought Stanley showed some good signs at the end of the season
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Nige on October 14, 2014, 01:20:32 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on October 14, 2014, 01:13:59 PM
Glenn McFarlane ‏@MaccaHeraldSun  1m1 minute ago
@GoldCoastSUNS has offered @HawthornFC midfielder Mitch Hallahan a long-term deal. Likely to accept. More @superfooty
There was something in the live feed about him being a little worried about the mid depth at the Hawks with O'Rourke coming in or something like that.

Hopefully he slots in, played quite well for the Hawks in his few games for them and is too good to be playing state leagues.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Ricochet on October 14, 2014, 01:21:22 PM
Yeh its a weird one, would have thought the midfield talent/depth is greater at GC
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: JBs-Hawks on October 14, 2014, 01:23:08 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on October 14, 2014, 01:21:22 PM
Yeh its a weird one, would have thought the midfield talent/depth is greater at GC

High end talent is but they have no depth
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: kilbluff1985 on October 14, 2014, 01:23:18 PM
he is much better then most of the depth at GC though like Lonergan
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Ricochet on October 14, 2014, 01:25:04 PM
Quote from: JBs-Hawks on October 14, 2014, 01:23:08 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on October 14, 2014, 01:21:22 PM
Yeh its a weird one, would have thought the midfield talent/depth is greater at GC

High end talent is but they have no depth
Yeh agree, but when Mitchell/Burgoyne go Hawks depth is probably worse than GC yeh? Got some good kids coming through but would have thought Hallahan would be infront of them
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Nige on October 14, 2014, 01:25:48 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on October 14, 2014, 01:21:22 PM
Yeh its a weird one, would have thought the midfield talent/depth is greater at GC
Only 22 though, so he's basically as young as most of group anyway. Not to mention he's probably a bit better than a bit of their mid depth.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Mr.Craig on October 14, 2014, 01:26:27 PM
I think the words "long term offer" probably played a factor in his decision.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Ricochet on October 14, 2014, 01:27:52 PM
Quote from: Nige on October 14, 2014, 01:25:48 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on October 14, 2014, 01:21:22 PM
Yeh its a weird one, would have thought the midfield talent/depth is greater at GC
Only 22 though, so he's basically as young as most of group anyway. Not to mention he's probably a bit better than a bit of their mid depth.
Says he's worried about opportunity with O'rourke coming in though. In a year GC mids will deeper imo
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: kilbluff1985 on October 14, 2014, 01:28:24 PM
wonder if Hawks will get there pick 16 or whatever compo pick or there 2nd rounder i'd say 2nd rounder
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Mr.Craig on October 14, 2014, 01:30:36 PM
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on October 14, 2014, 01:28:24 PM
wonder if Hawks will get there pick 16 or whatever compo pick or there 2nd rounder i'd say 2nd rounder

2nd round would be a very good outcome.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Ricochet on October 14, 2014, 01:37:31 PM
Hawks lads, apart from your two old boys would there be anyone else from your mids that would be infront of Hallahan currently other than these guys

Lewis
Hill
ISmith
Shiels
Langford
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Mr.Craig on October 14, 2014, 01:39:55 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on October 14, 2014, 01:37:31 PM
Hawks lads, apart from your two old boys would there be anyone else from your mids that would be infront of Hallahan currently other than these guys

Lewis
Hill
ISmith
Shiels
Langford

I would have put Woodward ahead of him. He would have felt pressure for a spot from Anderson and Hartung too, even though they play different types of roles.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Justin Bieber on October 14, 2014, 01:40:39 PM
First-round compo for Hallahan? Haha good joke.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Ricochet on October 14, 2014, 01:41:27 PM
Quote from: Mr.Craig on October 14, 2014, 01:39:55 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on October 14, 2014, 01:37:31 PM
Hawks lads, apart from your two old boys would there be anyone else from your mids that would be infront of Hallahan currently other than these guys

Lewis
Hill
ISmith
Shiels
Langford

I would have put Woodward ahead of him. He would have felt pressure for a spot from Anderson and Hartung too, even though they play different types of roles.
Ah yep ok. yeh just trying to get my head around why he would leave for opportunity when it looks as though Hawks are a better fit. Must be some serious $$$ involved
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Mr.Craig on October 14, 2014, 02:50:23 PM
TomRehn9
Port confirms more than pick 17 is on table for Ryder. He says "95% of these deals end up getting done." Gorringe also on radar.

Pick or player I wonder.



Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Ricochet on October 14, 2014, 02:53:09 PM
Pies will get 5,25 and Jack Crisp. Lions will get Beams and pick 67. Story on @cmail_sport soon.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Ricochet on October 14, 2014, 02:56:11 PM
Pickering on trade radio that Tom Boyd will come home either this year or next year when his contract expires.

He's having a fair crack at Damien Barrett as well haha
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: WCarey18 on October 14, 2014, 02:58:46 PM
Quote from: Mr.Craig on October 14, 2014, 02:50:23 PM
TomRehn9
Port confirms more than pick 17 is on table for Ryder. He says "95% of these deals end up getting done." Gorringe also on radar.

Pick or player I wonder.

From the start its been rumored to be Butcher + pick 17 FOR Ryder.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Mr.Craig on October 14, 2014, 03:02:32 PM
Would rather steak knives than Butcher.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: nas on October 14, 2014, 03:02:41 PM
Quote from: WCarey18 on October 14, 2014, 02:58:46 PM
Quote from: Mr.Craig on October 14, 2014, 02:50:23 PM
TomRehn9
Port confirms more than pick 17 is on table for Ryder. He says "95% of these deals end up getting done." Gorringe also on radar.

Pick or player I wonder.

From the start its been rumored to be Butcher + pick 17 FOR Ryder.

& / or Newton
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Ricochet on October 14, 2014, 03:02:59 PM
Liam Pickering confirmed that Greenwood isn't reconsidering and will end up at the Pies
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Grazz on October 14, 2014, 03:07:14 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on October 14, 2014, 02:56:11 PM
Pickering on trade radio that Tom Boyd will come home either this year or next year when his contract expires.

He's having a fair crack at Damien Barrett as well haha

He told Barrett he wouldn't discuss a players salary but Damien had to ask 2 more times and then got told its none of his business.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Ricochet on October 14, 2014, 03:08:30 PM
Quote from: Grazz on October 14, 2014, 03:07:14 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on October 14, 2014, 02:56:11 PM
Pickering on trade radio that Tom Boyd will come home either this year or next year when his contract expires.

He's having a fair crack at Damien Barrett as well haha

He told Barrett he wouldn't discuss a players salary but Damien had to ask 2 more times and then got told its none of his business.
haha yeh I had a good laugh at it
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Tominator on October 14, 2014, 03:24:44 PM
so 48 hours left and the Crows haven't signed anyone. I'm starting to get a bit worried - we need a back-up ruck and another key defender but we haven't made any major moves yet. I hope we don't get Luke Lowden and Kyle Cheney - would much rather Dan Gorringe and Ryan Schoenmakers or even Michael Talia.... or what if we swooped for Paddy Ryder..?

But we HAVE TO GET ACTIVE

Are we gonna land anyone?
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: WCarey18 on October 14, 2014, 03:39:02 PM
Quote from: Tominator on October 14, 2014, 03:24:44 PM
so 48 hours left and the Crows haven't signed anyone. I'm starting to get a bit worried - we need a back-up ruck and another key defender but we haven't made any major moves yet. I hope we don't get Luke Lowden and Kyle Cheney - would much rather Dan Gorringe and Ryan Schoenmakers or even Michael Talia.... or what if we swooped for Paddy Ryder..?

But we HAVE TO GET ACTIVE

Are we gonna land anyone?

Kyle Cheney.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Rusty00 on October 14, 2014, 03:46:18 PM
Quote from: Mr.Craig on October 14, 2014, 03:02:32 PM
Would rather steak knives than Butcher.
Blunt ones
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Pkbaldy on October 14, 2014, 03:49:45 PM
Ameet Bains on twitter talk today.

Few interesting things if you go for the Saints.

http://www.sfnews.com.au/#!what-did-ameet-bains-say-on-live-chat/cfjs (http://www.sfnews.com.au/#!what-did-ameet-bains-say-on-live-chat/cfjs)
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Ricochet on October 14, 2014, 04:02:38 PM
N21 for Stanley looking like a real possibility
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: WCarey18 on October 14, 2014, 04:05:26 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on October 14, 2014, 04:02:38 PM
N21 for Stanley looking like a real possibility

So Patfull = Christensen = Stanley? Huh.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Pkbaldy on October 14, 2014, 04:07:34 PM
Quote from: WCarey18 on October 14, 2014, 04:05:26 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on October 14, 2014, 04:02:38 PM
N21 for Stanley looking like a real possibility

So Patfull = Christensen = Stanley? Huh.

Nope, just means the Saints win!


Quote from: Ricochet on October 14, 2014, 04:02:38 PM
N21 for Stanley looking like a real possibility

Sure does, then we will probably keep pick 1 because that'll be 3 picks inside the first 22, which is what the Saints were after.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: SydneyRox on October 14, 2014, 04:08:54 PM
Quote from: WCarey18 on October 14, 2014, 04:05:26 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on October 14, 2014, 04:02:38 PM
N21 for Stanley looking like a real possibility

So Patfull = Christensen = Stanley? Huh.

Yeah, that sentence does not make sense....
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Jukes on October 14, 2014, 04:09:21 PM
Quote from: Jukes on October 13, 2014, 02:31:04 PM
And apparantly giles -> dons

called it
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Nige on October 14, 2014, 04:40:16 PM
Port Adelaide have offered Pick 17 and 37 for Essendon's Patrick Ryder according to the Herald Sun.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Justin Bieber on October 14, 2014, 04:41:36 PM
Take it Essendon.

Lions getting robbed in Beams trade. Especially for someone who wants out and value should decrease
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: kilbluff1985 on October 14, 2014, 04:47:48 PM
Quote from: Jukes on October 14, 2014, 04:09:21 PM
Quote from: Jukes on October 13, 2014, 02:31:04 PM
And apparantly giles -> dons

called it

big flowering whoop i been calling it since he and Ryder requested a trade

take 17 and 37 for Ryder and trade 37 for Giles
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Big Mac on October 14, 2014, 04:51:10 PM
Are Collingwood just holding up the rest of the trade period to flower with everyone or what?
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Ricochet on October 14, 2014, 04:52:20 PM
Quote from: Big  Mac on October 14, 2014, 04:51:10 PM
Are Collingwood just holding up the rest of the trade period to flower with everyone or what?
Think everything's good to go, just a jold up to do with Varcoe I think. Few people reporting it will be done tomorrow
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: roo boys! on October 14, 2014, 04:53:41 PM
If this Beams deal gets done it probably means Greenwood for pick 25 will end up eventuating. :(
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Jroo on October 14, 2014, 04:55:34 PM
Quote from: roo boys! on October 14, 2014, 04:53:41 PM
If this Beams deal gets done it probably means Greenwood for pick 25 will end up eventuating. :(
Was going to happen, anyway. This way you get a slightly better pick  :P
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: WCarey18 on October 14, 2014, 04:57:45 PM
Quote from: roo boys! on October 14, 2014, 04:53:41 PM
If this Beams deal gets done it probably means Greenwood for pick 25 will end up eventuating. :(

Not unless Geelong comes through with a pick upgrade. #wishfulthinking
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Jay on October 14, 2014, 05:02:27 PM
Flower you Jonathon Giles  >:(
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: kilbluff1985 on October 14, 2014, 05:07:13 PM
i want to see Giles in a Bomber jumper
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: roo boys! on October 14, 2014, 05:10:07 PM
Quote from: JROO8 on October 14, 2014, 04:55:34 PM
Quote from: roo boys! on October 14, 2014, 04:53:41 PM
If this Beams deal gets done it probably means Greenwood for pick 25 will end up eventuating. :(
Was going to happen, anyway. This way you get a slightly better pick  :P
Not sure if North were going to accept pick 30 and some reports are saying Greenwood isn't unhappy with the club or anything so doubt he was going to walk out on them.

Ah well, I guess he's as good as gone.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Jroo on October 14, 2014, 05:16:58 PM
So looks like Boyd is staying, for now.

"The GIANTS welcome comments by Tom Boyd's manager that he will honour his contract with the club. Liam Pickering told Trade Radio that Boyd would play for the GIANTS in 2015 if he was not traded. Chief Executive David Matthews said: "Given we have said Tom will not be traded under any circumstances we are pleased that any ambiguity has been removed and we look forward to welcoming Tom back to training next month and preparing for the 2015 season."
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Mr.Craig on October 14, 2014, 05:21:28 PM
Will be amusing if Patton goes to the Dogs next year after all this.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Nige on October 14, 2014, 06:03:24 PM
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on October 14, 2014, 05:07:13 PM
i want to see Giles in a Bomber jumper
(https://encrypted-tbn2.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQaOvKEBRouRebXRWPE4vRrqbI9BuikoEh227yU1_Cl7JomRXD6Qg)
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: kilbluff1985 on October 14, 2014, 06:10:24 PM
good job Nige ;D
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Jukes on October 14, 2014, 06:16:36 PM
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on October 14, 2014, 04:47:48 PM
Quote from: Jukes on October 14, 2014, 04:09:21 PM
Quote from: Jukes on October 13, 2014, 02:31:04 PM
And apparantly giles -> dons

called it

big flowering whoop i been calling it since he and Ryder requested a trade

take 17 and 37 for Ryder and trade 37 for Giles

wow, rude
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Grazz on October 14, 2014, 06:17:48 PM
Courtesy of a Ben Sutton tweet:

Trades by year
2010: 20
2011: 31
2012: 28
2013: 27
2014: 4*

Wow, is there a hidden message in this. Any meaning to it, such a big discrepancy from years gone by. :-\
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Vinny on October 14, 2014, 06:21:06 PM
Fingers crossed shower goes down late and there is like 20 more deals.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Mr.Craig on October 14, 2014, 06:23:08 PM
Somehow this will be the fault of free agency... :P
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Pkbaldy on October 14, 2014, 06:23:38 PM
Quote from: Vinny on October 14, 2014, 06:21:06 PM
Fingers crossed shower goes down late and there is like 20 more deals.

Turn 4 into 34 will be fine by me ;) haha
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Grazz on October 14, 2014, 06:29:50 PM
Quote from: Vinny on October 14, 2014, 06:21:06 PM
Fingers crossed shower goes down late and there is like 20 more deals.

Hope your right, surely the Beams deal isn't holding every other team that hasn't moved. Crazy how little action there's been.
Been listening to trade for hours and hours over the trade period for sweet FA. Probably won't get to tune in tomorrow for to long and  it will probably go nuts.  :(
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: meow meow on October 14, 2014, 06:30:42 PM
Add the 5 FA's and we're up to 9
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Pkbaldy on October 14, 2014, 06:32:04 PM
Quote from: Grazz on October 14, 2014, 06:29:50 PM
Quote from: Vinny on October 14, 2014, 06:21:06 PM
Fingers crossed shower goes down late and there is like 20 more deals.

Hope your right, surely the Beams deal isn't holding every other team that hasn't moved. Crazy how little action there's been.
Been listening to trade for hours and hours over the trade period for sweet FA. Probably won't get to tune in tomorrow for to long and  it will probably go nuts.  :(
Two Saints trades I think are to come;

Membrey to Saints
Stanley to Cats
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Grazz on October 14, 2014, 06:32:55 PM
Quote from: meow meow on October 14, 2014, 06:30:42 PM
Add the 5 FA's and we're up to 9

I been wondering why they aren't included in the number, can anyone fill me in ?
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: meow meow on October 14, 2014, 06:51:11 PM
Quote from: Grazz on October 14, 2014, 06:32:55 PM
Quote from: meow meow on October 14, 2014, 06:30:42 PM
Add the 5 FA's and we're up to 9

I been wondering why they aren't included in the number, can anyone fill me in ?

They're not exactly trades, since clubs don't trade anything for the players.


Jones & Tutt
Cooney
Griffen

There's 3 more to come.

Giles
Ryder
Beams/Crisp
Heritier/Clark/Varcoe
Membrey
Stanley
Greenwood
Gorringe
Hallahan
Lowden ?
Robinson ?
Warnock ?

what else?
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Purple 77 on October 14, 2014, 07:00:22 PM
Quote from: meow meow on October 14, 2014, 06:51:11 PM
Quote from: Grazz on October 14, 2014, 06:32:55 PM
Quote from: meow meow on October 14, 2014, 06:30:42 PM
Add the 5 FA's and we're up to 9

I been wondering why they aren't included in the number, can anyone fill me in ?

They're not exactly trades, since clubs don't trade anything for the players.


Jones & Tutt
Cooney
Griffen

There's 3 more to come.

Giles
Ryder
Beams/Crisp
Heritier/Clark/Varcoe
Membrey
Stanley
Greenwood
Gorringe
Hallahan
Lowden ?
Robinson ?
Warnock ?

what else?

Sam Frost wants to be traded to the Dees I think.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Nige on October 14, 2014, 07:09:20 PM
Quote from: Purple 77 on October 14, 2014, 07:00:22 PM
Quote from: meow meow on October 14, 2014, 06:51:11 PM
Quote from: Grazz on October 14, 2014, 06:32:55 PM
Quote from: meow meow on October 14, 2014, 06:30:42 PM
Add the 5 FA's and we're up to 9

I been wondering why they aren't included in the number, can anyone fill me in ?

They're not exactly trades, since clubs don't trade anything for the players.


Jones & Tutt
Cooney
Griffen

There's 3 more to come.

Giles
Ryder
Beams/Crisp
Heritier/Clark/Varcoe
Membrey
Stanley
Greenwood
Gorringe
Hallahan
Lowden ?
Robinson ?
Warnock ?

what else?

Sam Frost wants to be traded to the Dees I think.
Jaksch and Whiley.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: SydneyRox on October 14, 2014, 07:13:18 PM
Also sounds like Membrey wont be a trade. More likely to walk and go into PSD
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Toga on October 14, 2014, 07:17:26 PM
Why wouldn't the Swans take what they can get for him, especially given the trade ban? ???
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Nige on October 14, 2014, 07:18:05 PM
North Melbourne's Keiran Harper could join the Western Bulldogs in the Adam Cooney trade after successfully completing a medical.

It is understood North's offer for Cooney will also involve an exchange of draft picks, with the Roos' second-round pick, No. 36, possibly also in play.

- AFL Website.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Nige on October 14, 2014, 07:20:56 PM
Gold Coast have rejected Port Adelaide's offer of Pick 37 for Daniel Gorringe.

- SEN



Neil Balme has said Taylor Hunt probably won't have a spot on Geelong's list for next season, Balme has said he expects he'll find another club but not sure which club.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Noz on October 14, 2014, 07:31:57 PM
Sam Frost and Tim Membrey won't be apart of trade week they will fall to Melbourne and Saints in the PSD
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: T Dog on October 14, 2014, 08:35:08 PM
Quote from: Grazz on October 14, 2014, 06:17:48 PM
Courtesy of a Ben Sutton tweet:

Trades by year
2010: 20
2011: 31
2012: 28
2013: 27
2014: 4*

Wow, is there a hidden message in this. Any meaning to it, such a big discrepancy from years gone by. :-\

Yes  :)
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: henry on October 14, 2014, 08:52:15 PM
Disappointed about Hallahan leaving if that happens, I really rate him and he showed he can play well in the highest level this year after dominating in the VFL. Can understand his decision if true, but he was quoted as saying he wanted to stay  :(. We got o'rourke and frawley, guess we can't have everything.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: elephants on October 14, 2014, 09:03:06 PM
Quote from: Jukes on October 14, 2014, 06:16:36 PM
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on October 14, 2014, 04:47:48 PM
Quote from: Jukes on October 14, 2014, 04:09:21 PM
Quote from: Jukes on October 13, 2014, 02:31:04 PM
And apparantly giles -> dons

called it

big flowering whoop i been calling it since he and Ryder requested a trade

take 17 and 37 for Ryder and trade 37 for Giles

wow, rude

I don't often do this, but agreed. Chill kb.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: roo boys! on October 14, 2014, 09:19:21 PM
Quote from: Nige on October 14, 2014, 07:18:05 PM
North Melbourne's Keiran Harper could join the Western Bulldogs in the Adam Cooney trade after successfully completing a medical.

It is understood North's offer for Cooney will also involve an exchange of draft picks, with the Roos' second-round pick, No. 36, possibly also in play.

- AFL Website.
Not sure what to think of this one.

Big wraps on Harper but has had his fair share of injuries and has been given chances...his time at North is probably up.

Not sure how other north fans feel but I wouldn't mind Cooney at all, I reckon he could play a role.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: My Chumps on October 14, 2014, 09:24:05 PM
Reckon Kane Turner's taken Harpers spot RB?

Also think Cooney's an absolute steal for that much. North making some terrific additions for the short term.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Bill Manspeaker on October 14, 2014, 09:30:36 PM
so ..uh... just read on BF Saints board someone on Demonland or something said JPK to Melb for 2 & 3?

guessing it's just a bullshower rumour, but didn't expect that

http://demonland.com/forums/index.php?/topic/37502-the-josh-kennedy-revelation/
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Toga on October 14, 2014, 09:34:18 PM
If that happens... Wow!

Maybe explains why Melbourne were chasing Pick 12
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: roo boys! on October 14, 2014, 09:35:45 PM
Quote from: My Chumps on October 14, 2014, 09:24:05 PM
Reckon Kane Turner's taken Harpers spot RB?

Also think Cooney's an absolute steal for that much. North making some terrific additions for the short term.
In a way, I don't think he's taken his spot he's just pushed him even further back in the pecking order.

Was being groomed as the replacement for Boomer however Harper hasn't taken the steps required after a promising start, plus he'll probably end up retiring before Boomer does :P
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Mailman the 2nd on October 14, 2014, 09:42:15 PM
Quote from: brad on October 14, 2014, 09:30:36 PM
so ..uh... just read on BF Saints board someone on Demonland or something said JPK to Melb for 2 & 3?

guessing it's just a bullshower rumour, but didn't expect that

http://demonland.com/forums/index.php?/topic/37502-the-josh-kennedy-revelation/

I'm sure JPK is stoked to head to Melbourne from Sydney lol.

If he wanted to be in Melbourne/get lots of money he'd just go back to Hawthorn
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Bill Manspeaker on October 14, 2014, 09:48:57 PM
Quote from: Mailman the 2nd on October 14, 2014, 09:42:15 PM
Quote from: brad on October 14, 2014, 09:30:36 PM
so ..uh... just read on BF Saints board someone on Demonland or something said JPK to Melb for 2 & 3?

guessing it's just a bullshower rumour, but didn't expect that

http://demonland.com/forums/index.php?/topic/37502-the-josh-kennedy-revelation/

I'm sure JPK is stoked to head to Melbourne from Sydney lol.

If he wanted to be in Melbourne/get lots of money he'd just go back to Hawthorn
yeah I honestly can't see this happening. would be huge for Melbourne though
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Noz on October 14, 2014, 09:53:22 PM
Why are people disappointed with the lack of trades?

Trade week is not for entertainment.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Grazz on October 14, 2014, 09:54:24 PM
Would be a huge get for the Dee's but im reluctant to believe it tbh.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Mr.Craig on October 14, 2014, 10:28:24 PM
I actually laughed out loud at that one.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: SydneyRox on October 14, 2014, 10:42:31 PM
Quote from: brad on October 14, 2014, 09:48:57 PM
Quote from: Mailman the 2nd on October 14, 2014, 09:42:15 PM
Quote from: brad on October 14, 2014, 09:30:36 PM
so ..uh... just read on BF Saints board someone on Demonland or something said JPK to Melb for 2 & 3?

guessing it's just a bullshower rumour, but didn't expect that

http://demonland.com/forums/index.php?/topic/37502-the-josh-kennedy-revelation/

I'm sure JPK is stoked to head to Melbourne from Sydney lol.

If he wanted to be in Melbourne/get lots of money he'd just go back to Hawthorn
yeah I honestly can't see this happening. would be huge for Melbourne though

LOL - an amazing thread! pure rubbish! but i tried to read from post one and have spent 30minutes there almost and not been able to keep up to get to the end!!  :o

some very excited dees
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: elephants on October 14, 2014, 10:44:13 PM
Haha Sydney fans. Quick quick shut it downZzzz!!!
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: SydneyRox on October 14, 2014, 10:54:31 PM
while it is an interesting discussion point i cant see the swans 1. giving up arguably their most influential player and 2. Convincing JPK he needs to go for the good of the team
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Grazz on October 14, 2014, 10:57:13 PM
Quote from: SydneyRox on October 14, 2014, 10:54:31 PM
while it is an interesting discussion point i cant see the swans 1. giving up arguably their most influential player and 2. Convincing JPK he needs to go for the good of the team

Yep pretty much how most would see it Syd.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: meow meow on October 14, 2014, 11:00:20 PM
Swans would take it 10 times out of 10 if they were 10th on the ladder, not in premiership contention. Can't blame Paul Roos for trying though.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Big Mac on October 14, 2014, 11:13:34 PM
I want it to be true. Won't be getting my hopes up though.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: kilbluff1985 on October 15, 2014, 02:20:59 AM
that JPK rumour was started on facebook by

AFL News and Trade Rumors

it's just a troll page they talk so much shower

Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Big Mac on October 15, 2014, 07:44:33 AM
The rumours been on demonland since Monday - A fair few people staking their reputations on it although I know it probably means nothing
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: ADEZ on October 15, 2014, 08:45:54 AM
Yeah I doubt it's credibility but it is undoubtedly gaining legs
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Purple 77 on October 15, 2014, 09:35:55 AM
The Demonland people are hilarious. They are so vicious haha.

But I wouldn't listen to anything that first comes from Demonland  ;)
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Mailman the 2nd on October 15, 2014, 09:41:40 AM
I love how one suggests to only give pick 3 "because he's already 26"
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Ringo on October 15, 2014, 10:39:11 AM
Apparently Pies will sign off on Beams Deal this morning.  It was not a stand alone deal and involved other clubs as well.

Deal as reported in numerous sources:
Brisbane Receive Beams and pick 67
Collingwood Receive Picks 5, Jack Crisp, Levi Greenwood from North Melbourne and Travis Varcoe from Geelong
Geelong receive Mitch Clark
Melbourne receive Heritier Lumumba from Collingwood
North Melbourne receive Pick 25

So a lot of mooted trades tied up with this one expected to be finalised today.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Ricochet on October 15, 2014, 10:42:55 AM
Bombers still playing hardball

Brett Anderson ‏@BrettAndersonIF 
Port has offered players to Ess as part of Ryder deal but each has been knocked back. Dons only want Wingard/Wines/Harlett/Impey. #AFLTrades
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Ricochet on October 15, 2014, 11:02:57 AM
Interesting look at the Ryder offers

http://www.afl.com.au/news/2014-10-15/what-is-paddy-ryder-worth?utm_medium=RSS

Previous deals involving ruckmen

2013
Ben McEvoy (St Kilda to Hawthorn): Picks 18, 21 and Shane Savage for picks 24 and 59
Shaun Hampson (Carlton to Richmond): Pick 28
Trent West (Geelong to Brisbane Lions): Pick 41
Billy Longer (Brisbane Lions to St Kilda): Picks 25 and 41 to Lions for Longer and pick 48
Shane Mumford (Sydney Swans to GWS): Pick 39 

2012
Tom Hickey (Gold Coast to St Kilda): Pick 13
Hamish McIntosh (North Melbourne to Geelong): Pick 36

2011
Mitch Clark (Brisbane Lions to Melbourne): Pick 12
Ivan Maric (Adelaide to Richmond): Pick 37
Josh Jenkins (Essendon to Adelaide): Pick 41 and Jenkins for pick 31

2010
Sam Jacobs (Carlton to Adelaide): Picks 33 and 67
Jonathon Griffin (Adelaide to Fremantle): Pick 61
David Hale (North Melbourne to Hawthorn): Picks 27 and 71 to North Melbourne for Hale and pick 52

Others
Darren Jolly (Melbourne to Sydney Swans): Pick 15; (Sydney Swans to Collingwood): Pick 14 and 46.
Brad Ottens (Richmond to Geelong): Picks 12 and 16.
Robbie Warnock (Fremantle to Carlton): Picks 24, 56 & 72 for Warnock and 69
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: krk004 on October 15, 2014, 11:26:41 AM
Quote from: Ricochet on October 15, 2014, 11:02:57 AM
Interesting look at the Ryder offers

http://www.afl.com.au/news/2014-10-15/what-is-paddy-ryder-worth?utm_medium=RSS

Previous deals involving ruckmen

2013
Ben McEvoy (St Kilda to Hawthorn): Picks 18, 21 and Shane Savage for picks 24 and 59
Shaun Hampson (Carlton to Richmond): Pick 28
Trent West (Geelong to Brisbane Lions): Pick 41
Billy Longer (Brisbane Lions to St Kilda): Picks 25 and 41 to Lions for Longer and pick 48
Shane Mumford (Sydney Swans to GWS): Pick 39 

2012
Tom Hickey (Gold Coast to St Kilda): Pick 13
Hamish McIntosh (North Melbourne to Geelong): Pick 36

2011
Mitch Clark (Brisbane Lions to Melbourne): Pick 12
Ivan Maric (Adelaide to Richmond): Pick 37
Josh Jenkins (Essendon to Adelaide): Pick 41 and Jenkins for pick 31

2010
Sam Jacobs (Carlton to Adelaide): Picks 33 and 67
Jonathon Griffin (Adelaide to Fremantle): Pick 61
David Hale (North Melbourne to Hawthorn): Picks 27 and 71 to North Melbourne for Hale and pick 52

Others
Darren Jolly (Melbourne to Sydney Swans): Pick 15; (Sydney Swans to Collingwood): Pick 14 and 46.
Brad Ottens (Richmond to Geelong): Picks 12 and 16.
Robbie Warnock (Fremantle to Carlton): Picks 24, 56 & 72 for Warnock and 69

FWIW;

Tom Hickey + pk 25 & 46 >>> pk 13, 36 & 55

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2012_AFL_draft
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Ricochet on October 15, 2014, 11:59:41 AM
Jaksch and Wiley deal to Carlton about to be done
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Jroo on October 15, 2014, 12:00:36 PM
So, looks like the big 5-way trade for Beams may be done soon.
Same with Jacksch and Whiley to the Blues.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: nas on October 15, 2014, 12:01:39 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on October 15, 2014, 10:42:55 AM
Bombers still playing hardball

Brett Anderson ‏@BrettAndersonIF 
Port has offered players to Ess as part of Ryder deal but each has been knocked back. Dons only want Wingard/Wines/Harlett/Impey. << haha #AFLTrades

Easy fixed! Take offer of table Ryder uses "Get out Clause." Essendon for not looking at gift horse in the mouth > "Flower All"  Screw them to the ground. IMO
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Jroo on October 15, 2014, 12:04:32 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on October 15, 2014, 10:42:55 AM
Bombers still playing hardball

Brett Anderson ‏@BrettAndersonIF 
Port has offered players to Ess as part of Ryder deal but each has been knocked back. Dons only want Wingard/Wines/Harlett/Impey. #AFLTrades
Impey + #17 for Ryder would be more than fair.
But won't happen, Dodoro will accept Port's first two picks with one minute left, tomorrow  :P
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Mr.Craig on October 15, 2014, 12:05:19 PM
Was expecting to log on and see a bunch of deals had been done this morning.

Nope.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: ADEZ on October 15, 2014, 12:06:09 PM
Quote from: JROO8 on October 15, 2014, 12:04:32 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on October 15, 2014, 10:42:55 AM
Bombers still playing hardball

Brett Anderson ‏@BrettAndersonIF 
Port has offered players to Ess as part of Ryder deal but each has been knocked back. Dons only want Wingard/Wines/Harlett/Impey. #AFLTrades
Impey + #17 for Ryder would be more than fair.
But won't happen, Dodoro will accept Port's first two picks with one minute left, tomorrow  :P
:o :o Delusional
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Ricochet on October 15, 2014, 12:06:32 PM
flowering finally!

Deal done lads

http://www.melbournefc.com.au/melbourne/news/2014-10-15/lumumba-becomes-a-demon
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Jroo on October 15, 2014, 12:07:04 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on October 15, 2014, 12:06:32 PM
flowering finally!

Deal done lads
Yep done!

Hopefully we get a few more, today.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Ringo on October 15, 2014, 12:08:30 PM
Beams deal now lodged and press releases now coming out,
Lumumba to Melbourne
Clark to Geelong
Varcoe to Collingwood
Confirmed already
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Jroo on October 15, 2014, 12:08:56 PM
Quote from: ADEZ on October 15, 2014, 12:06:09 PM
Quote from: JROO8 on October 15, 2014, 12:04:32 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on October 15, 2014, 10:42:55 AM
Bombers still playing hardball

Brett Anderson ‏@BrettAndersonIF 
Port has offered players to Ess as part of Ryder deal but each has been knocked back. Dons only want Wingard/Wines/Harlett/Impey. #AFLTrades
Impey + #17 for Ryder would be more than fair.
But won't happen, Dodoro will accept Port's first two picks with one minute left, tomorrow  :P
:o :o Delusional
Lol. He's easily worth that, doesn't mean it's going to happen though.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Ricochet on October 15, 2014, 12:10:30 PM
Quote from: JROO8 on October 15, 2014, 12:08:56 PM
Quote from: ADEZ on October 15, 2014, 12:06:09 PM
Quote from: JROO8 on October 15, 2014, 12:04:32 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on October 15, 2014, 10:42:55 AM
Bombers still playing hardball

Brett Anderson ‏@BrettAndersonIF 
Port has offered players to Ess as part of Ryder deal but each has been knocked back. Dons only want Wingard/Wines/Harlett/Impey. #AFLTrades
Impey + #17 for Ryder would be more than fair.
But won't happen, Dodoro will accept Port's first two picks with one minute left, tomorrow  :P
:o :o Delusional
Lol. He's easily worth that, doesn't mean it's going to happen though.
Yeh agree, Ryder is worth that. Port wouldn't do it though
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: ADEZ on October 15, 2014, 12:14:17 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on October 15, 2014, 12:10:30 PM
Quote from: JROO8 on October 15, 2014, 12:08:56 PM
Quote from: ADEZ on October 15, 2014, 12:06:09 PM
Quote from: JROO8 on October 15, 2014, 12:04:32 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on October 15, 2014, 10:42:55 AM
Bombers still playing hardball

Brett Anderson ‏@BrettAndersonIF 
Port has offered players to Ess as part of Ryder deal but each has been knocked back. Dons only want Wingard/Wines/Harlett/Impey. #AFLTrades
Impey + #17 for Ryder would be more than fair.
But won't happen, Dodoro will accept Port's first two picks with one minute left, tomorrow  :P
:o :o Delusional
Lol. He's easily worth that, doesn't mean it's going to happen though.
Yeh agree, Ryder is worth that. Port wouldn't do it though
One can be biased ::) but he has shown quite a but in 18 games for a 19 year old
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Ricochet on October 15, 2014, 12:20:56 PM
Beams deal has now also be confirmed

Brisbane gets Beams and pick 67

Collingwood gets picks 5, 25 and Jack Crisp
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Ricochet on October 15, 2014, 12:26:09 PM
And also Greenwood is now a Pie
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: kilbluff1985 on October 15, 2014, 12:26:12 PM
CONFIRMED:
Collingwood now on trades pick 25 to North Melbourne in exchange for midfielder Levi Greenwood.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Ricochet on October 15, 2014, 12:27:34 PM
Wow and Stanley plus Pick 60 come to the Cats for Pick 21
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Ricochet on October 15, 2014, 12:43:27 PM
So to recap, because that happened pretty quickly

Pies receive: N5 + N25 + Crisp
Brissie receive: DBeams + N67

Pies receive: Greenwood
North receive: N25

Geelong receive: MClark
Pies receive: Varcoe
Melb receive: Lumumba

Geelong receive: Stanley + N60
Saints receive: N21
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: kilbluff1985 on October 15, 2014, 12:43:50 PM
(http://i59.tinypic.com/15hkcr7.png)
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: elephants on October 15, 2014, 12:45:09 PM
(https://fbcdn-sphotos-h-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xap1/v/t1.0-9/1800307_366979400142961_9121211883067461216_n.png?oh=f9ff66008c666da2e1fdbfd0d0fdd84d&oe=54B1C93F&__gda__=1420627062_23ab4d393d1ff7861e02aa697bc71214)
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Jroo on October 15, 2014, 12:46:18 PM
This tweet is better
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Bz8pC5qCQAIIk0M.jpg:large)
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: SydneyRox on October 15, 2014, 12:50:32 PM
Would be pretty pissed if I was a cats supporter - Christo for Stanley??
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Ricochet on October 15, 2014, 12:53:33 PM
Quote from: SydneyRox on October 15, 2014, 12:50:32 PM
Would be pretty pissed if I was a cats supporter - Christo for Stanley??
Yeh its an interesting one mate. Like when Cats first let Christo go for 21, it was pretty obvious they were releasing him for Unders to look after Christo and were praised for doing so. But 21 for Stanley just seems like a massive mistake
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: kilbluff1985 on October 15, 2014, 12:57:40 PM
Saints did throw in a pick to even it out a bit it's not just a straight swap
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Ricochet on October 15, 2014, 01:00:48 PM
Quote from: elephants on October 15, 2014, 12:45:09 PM
(https://fbcdn-sphotos-h-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xap1/v/t1.0-9/1800307_366979400142961_9121211883067461216_n.png?oh=f9ff66008c666da2e1fdbfd0d0fdd84d&oe=54B1C93F&__gda__=1420627062_23ab4d393d1ff7861e02aa697bc71214)
Quote from: JROO8 on October 15, 2014, 12:46:18 PM
This tweet is better
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Bz8pC5qCQAIIk0M.jpg:large)
Hahaha gold
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: T Dog on October 15, 2014, 01:07:23 PM
Poor Trav...but all his highlights will be in the next 2 years of course.  8)
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Ricochet on October 15, 2014, 01:08:50 PM
Kristian Jaksch has also now signed with Carlton
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Jroo on October 15, 2014, 01:12:04 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on October 15, 2014, 01:08:50 PM
Kristian Jaksch has also now signed with Carlton
Yep. Jaksch, Wiley and pick 19 to Carlton. Pick 7 to GWS.

Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Bill Manspeaker on October 15, 2014, 01:13:37 PM
pretty happy with the Stanley trade. bloke has incredible ability, but also the incredible ability to go missing

good luck to him. hopefully he can shine in a good team. and hopefully we pick up a future gun with 21 8)
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: SydneyRox on October 15, 2014, 01:14:59 PM
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on October 15, 2014, 12:57:40 PM
Saints did throw in a pick to even it out a bit it's not just a straight swap

Lol - yeah pick 60. Will be a pass or a rookie upgrade
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: kilbluff1985 on October 15, 2014, 01:15:46 PM
Quote from: SydneyRox on October 15, 2014, 01:14:59 PM
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on October 15, 2014, 12:57:40 PM
Saints did throw in a pick to even it out a bit it's not just a straight swap

Lol - yeah pick 60. Will be a pass or a rookie upgrade

clubs rate these picks with more value then we do
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Mailman the 2nd on October 15, 2014, 01:18:05 PM
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on October 15, 2014, 01:15:46 PM
Quote from: SydneyRox on October 15, 2014, 01:14:59 PM
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on October 15, 2014, 12:57:40 PM
Saints did throw in a pick to even it out a bit it's not just a straight swap

Lol - yeah pick 60. Will be a pass or a rookie upgrade

clubs rate these picks with more value then we do

Its pretty much on the edge where most clubs just start passing
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: SydneyRox on October 15, 2014, 01:21:37 PM
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on October 15, 2014, 01:15:46 PM
Quote from: SydneyRox on October 15, 2014, 01:14:59 PM
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on October 15, 2014, 12:57:40 PM
Saints did throw in a pick to even it out a bit it's not just a straight swap

Lol - yeah pick 60. Will be a pass or a rookie upgrade

clubs rate these picks with more value then we do

have a look at the last 3 drafts. Pretty much 60+ is rookies, low F/S, academy players etc

Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: kilbluff1985 on October 15, 2014, 01:23:14 PM
Kwame McHarg from Deer Park anybody know about him?

Essendon has been testing him as a possible rookie he kicked 7 goals in there Grand Final win
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Ziplock on October 15, 2014, 03:09:28 PM
Giants get pick 7 for Jaksch and Whiley.

Honestly that is so, so, so much better than I thought we'd end up getting for him.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Ziplock on October 15, 2014, 03:11:12 PM
Quote from: Ziplock on October 15, 2014, 03:09:28 PM
Giants get pick 7 for Jaksch and Whiley.

Honestly that is so, so, so much better than I thought we'd end up getting for him.

nvm, carlton also get pick 19 :P


It's still an alright trade though imo.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: SydneyRox on October 15, 2014, 03:15:02 PM
Quote from: Ziplock on October 15, 2014, 03:09:28 PM
Giants get pick 7 for Jaksch and Whiley.

Honestly that is so, so, so much better than I thought we'd end up getting for him.

Think Whiley will be a very good pickup for the Blues! Plays like Robbo without the drama
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: meow meow on October 15, 2014, 03:21:34 PM
Quote from: SydneyRox on October 15, 2014, 03:15:02 PM
Quote from: Ziplock on October 15, 2014, 03:09:28 PM
Giants get pick 7 for Jaksch and Whiley.

Honestly that is so, so, so much better than I thought we'd end up getting for him.

Think Whiley will be a very good pickup for the Blues! Plays like Robbo without the drama

He's a ball magnet when given the chance but has only ever been played as a tagger at AFL level. It's a win-win for both clubs.
Jaksch is worth around pick 18. So 18, 19 and Whiley for 7 is about right.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: kilbluff1985 on October 15, 2014, 03:23:49 PM
locked if named round 1
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Pkbaldy on October 15, 2014, 04:00:06 PM
Quote from: SydneyRox on October 15, 2014, 03:15:02 PM
Quote from: Ziplock on October 15, 2014, 03:09:28 PM
Giants get pick 7 for Jaksch and Whiley.

Honestly that is so, so, so much better than I thought we'd end up getting for him.

Think Whiley will be a very good pickup for the Blues! Plays like Robbo without the drama

In my opinion he plays nothing like Robbo.
Nevertheless he will be handy for them next year if he can break himself into that side by working his arse off pre-season.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Jroo on October 15, 2014, 04:07:30 PM
@RealFooty1 BREAKING: The Griffen and Boyd trade is close to happening. Story shortly.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Ricochet on October 15, 2014, 04:08:31 PM
Quote from: JROO8 on October 15, 2014, 04:07:30 PM
@RealFooty1 BREAKING: The Griffen and Boyd trade is close to happening. Story shortly.
:o
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: kilbluff1985 on October 15, 2014, 04:10:27 PM
who is @RealFooty1
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Pkbaldy on October 15, 2014, 04:11:00 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on October 15, 2014, 04:08:31 PM
Quote from: JROO8 on October 15, 2014, 04:07:30 PM
@RealFooty1 BREAKING: The Griffen and Boyd trade is close to happening. Story shortly.
:o

Big win for the Doggies
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Jroo on October 15, 2014, 04:11:28 PM
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on October 15, 2014, 04:10:27 PM
who is @RealFooty1
The Age's AFL account
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Jroo on October 15, 2014, 04:12:49 PM
A blockbuster deal in which Western Bulldogs captain Ryan Griffen would be traded for Greater Western Sydney's Tom Boyd is looking increasingly likely.

Under the deal, which is under discussion and yet to be finalised, Griffen and the Dogs' first pick, No.6, would go to the Giants in return for Boyd.

Boyd has been offered a deal believed to be six years and in excess of $6 million.

http://www.theage.com.au/afl/afl-news/blockbuster-deal-for-boyd-and-griffen-close-20141015-116gsg.html
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Mr.Craig on October 15, 2014, 04:13:46 PM
Dunno why Hallahan hasn't happened yet. I suggested him and Pick 43 for Picks 29 and 49. Seems fair to me.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Jroo on October 15, 2014, 04:15:24 PM
So Griff + #6 for Boyd.
You'd assume then, GWS send two of their first rounders for Pick #1.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Ricochet on October 15, 2014, 04:17:35 PM
 :o done deal

http://www.gwsgiants.com.au/news/2014-10-15/ryan-griffen-becomes-a-giant
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Jroo on October 15, 2014, 04:18:42 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on October 15, 2014, 04:17:35 PM
:o done deal

http://www.gwsgiants.com.au/news/2014-10-15/ryan-griffen-becomes-a-giant
Wowee, that was quick!
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Ricochet on October 15, 2014, 04:19:57 PM
Quote from: JROO8 on October 15, 2014, 04:18:42 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on October 15, 2014, 04:17:35 PM
:o done deal

http://www.gwsgiants.com.au/news/2014-10-15/ryan-griffen-becomes-a-giant
Wowee, that was quick!
haha you're not wrong.

Huge for both clubs
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: kilbluff1985 on October 15, 2014, 04:21:06 PM
Griffen + 6 for Boyd is overs imo i would of wanted there 2nd rounder at least
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: T Dog on October 15, 2014, 04:22:24 PM
A $1 mill deal?  :o
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Capper on October 15, 2014, 04:23:46 PM
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on October 15, 2014, 04:21:06 PM
Griffen + 6 for Boyd is overs imo i would of wanted there 2nd rounder at least
I dont want anyone else to know this but i agree with KB.

Dogs needs something else for Griffen and 6 if Griffen is signing for 4 years
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: My Chumps on October 15, 2014, 04:24:13 PM
Way overs by the Dogs, but I guess you gotta do what you gotta do.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Ricochet on October 15, 2014, 04:24:57 PM
Quote from: tabs on October 15, 2014, 04:23:46 PM
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on October 15, 2014, 04:21:06 PM
Griffen + 6 for Boyd is overs imo i would of wanted there 2nd rounder at least
I dont want anyone else to know this but i agree with KB.

Dogs needs something else for Griffen and 6 if Griffen is signing for 4 years
Yeh I thought Griffen + 6 for Boyd + 2nd rounder was fair. But I guess Bullies have to pay overs to get their man considering they wanted him with a year left on his contract and GWS not willing to trade.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Purple 77 on October 15, 2014, 04:26:27 PM
Ah hell, the doggies are taking a risk, and you gotta admire them for that.

They got their man, kudos!
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: shaker on October 15, 2014, 04:28:27 PM
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on October 15, 2014, 04:21:06 PM
Griffen + 6 for Boyd is overs imo i would of wanted there 2nd rounder at least

Yeah a bit much but good for both clubs , Griffen will make there midfield up there with the best and Boyd well you can build a team around him
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: kilbluff1985 on October 15, 2014, 04:30:40 PM
so offer pick 6 + 7 to the Saints for NAT 1 and go into the draft with PICK 1 AND PICK 4 ;D 8)
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Ricochet on October 15, 2014, 04:32:13 PM
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on October 15, 2014, 04:30:40 PM
so offer pick 6 + 7 to the Saints for NAT 1 and go into the draft with PICK 1 AND PICK 4 ;D 8)
Then take a key fwd to replace Boyd
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: krk004 on October 15, 2014, 04:32:47 PM
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on October 15, 2014, 04:30:40 PM
so offer pick 6 + 7 to the Saints for NAT 1 and go into the draft with PICK 1 AND PICK 4 ;D 8)

Pk 1 won't go w/o pk 4 being involved somehow IMO
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Justin Bieber on October 15, 2014, 04:34:50 PM
Well at least one of Griffen or Ward is going to go bananas each week.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: kilbluff1985 on October 15, 2014, 04:35:05 PM
Quote from: krk004 on October 15, 2014, 04:32:47 PM
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on October 15, 2014, 04:30:40 PM
so offer pick 6 + 7 to the Saints for NAT 1 and go into the draft with PICK 1 AND PICK 4 ;D 8)

Pk 1 won't go w/o pk 4 being involved somehow IMO

nah 6 + 7 is fair imo maybe throw in 2nd rounder if have to
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Mailman the 2nd on October 15, 2014, 04:35:50 PM
Thats gonna hurt the dogs
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Justin Bieber on October 15, 2014, 04:36:07 PM
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on October 15, 2014, 04:35:05 PM
Quote from: krk004 on October 15, 2014, 04:32:47 PM
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on October 15, 2014, 04:30:40 PM
so offer pick 6 + 7 to the Saints for NAT 1 and go into the draft with PICK 1 AND PICK 4 ;D 8)

Pk 1 won't go w/o pk 4 being involved somehow IMO

nah 6 + 7 is fair imo maybe throw in 2nd rounder if have to
Pick 1 is 10 fold better than  picks 6+7
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Ziplock on October 15, 2014, 04:36:54 PM
Quote from: tabs on October 15, 2014, 04:23:46 PM
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on October 15, 2014, 04:21:06 PM
Griffen + 6 for Boyd is overs imo i would of wanted there 2nd rounder at least
I dont want anyone else to know this but i agree with KB.

Dogs needs something else for Griffen and 6 if Griffen is signing for 4 years

I think this is a win for boyd and the giants and a not so much win for the dogs.

I didn't want to see boyd go, and as I said, I'm not a fan of players leaving without completing the contract they were drafted with, but honestly I think this is a best case scenario.

We have what, 4,6 and 7 now? I would love for us to try and package those together for some other player :P
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Bill Manspeaker on October 15, 2014, 04:37:42 PM
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on October 15, 2014, 04:35:05 PM
Quote from: krk004 on October 15, 2014, 04:32:47 PM
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on October 15, 2014, 04:30:40 PM
so offer pick 6 + 7 to the Saints for NAT 1 and go into the draft with PICK 1 AND PICK 4 ;D 8)

Pk 1 won't go w/o pk 4 being involved somehow IMO

nah 6 + 7 is fair imo maybe throw in 2nd rounder if have to
nah krk is on it. we won't do the deal unless 4 is involved... as well as 6 & 7 8)
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Jroo on October 15, 2014, 04:38:09 PM
Quote from: whatlez on October 15, 2014, 04:34:50 PM
Well at least one of Griffen or Ward is going to go bananas each week.
Yeah I'd tag Griffen over Ward every day of the week, he should cop the tag most weeks.
Good SC option fort next year.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Pkbaldy on October 15, 2014, 04:43:19 PM
Saints would only budge if it was 4, 6 and 7. Just 6 and 7 would be a joke of an attempt.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Mr.Craig on October 15, 2014, 04:44:30 PM
GWS falling over themselves to get more first round picks they can waste.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: kilbluff1985 on October 15, 2014, 04:45:38 PM
yeah inb4 GWS draft another tall forward with one of there first 3 picks
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Ricochet on October 15, 2014, 04:51:09 PM
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on October 15, 2014, 04:45:38 PM
yeah inb4 GWS draft another tall forward with one of there first 3 picks

inb4 KB says inb4 ;)

Quote from: Ricochet on October 15, 2014, 04:32:13 PM
Then take a key fwd to replace Boyd
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Ziplock on October 15, 2014, 04:52:24 PM
Quote from: Mr.Craig on October 15, 2014, 04:44:30 PM
GWS falling over themselves to get more first round picks they can waste.
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on October 15, 2014, 04:45:38 PM
yeah inb4 GWS draft another tall forward with one of there first 3 picks

Not really, I mean we would have gotten Griffen for 'free' next year, but we would have lost Boyd for probably like a second round pick or something.

I'd seriously consider bundling those picks up and going really, really hard at a player over the next couple of days.

Otherwise, yeah, we're probs going to draft another tall forward :P
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: kilbluff1985 on October 15, 2014, 04:54:32 PM
btw Zip you think they might try to keep Giles now?
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: krk004 on October 15, 2014, 04:58:33 PM
GWS need quality not quantity at this point of their list management.

1 & 22 >> 4,6 & 7

IMO

;)
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Nige on October 15, 2014, 04:59:38 PM
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on October 15, 2014, 04:54:32 PM
btw Zip you think they might try to keep Giles now?
Not Zip, but they still have a few tall forwards and they'll probably just pick up another one anyway.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: WCarey18 on October 15, 2014, 05:00:39 PM
Lengths of contracts for Griffen and Boyd were just released.

Boyd on a SEVEN year deal, Griffen got four.

Source: AFL.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Jroo on October 15, 2014, 05:01:08 PM
Quote from: krk004 on October 15, 2014, 04:58:33 PM
GWS need quality not quantity at this point of their list management.

1 & 22 >> 4,6 & 7

IMO

;)
Would love to see them go after a player.
Pick 7 + Giles for Ryder  ;)
Then send 4 and 6 for 1, that'll get it done.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: JBs-Hawks on October 15, 2014, 05:15:03 PM
Not  sure they will have the salary cap to get Ryder and then keep there youth brigade.

I reckon they will just draft a couple key defenders in Durdin or Lever or maybe bring Laverde or Wrigth with one pick.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: krk004 on October 15, 2014, 05:28:08 PM
Quote from: JROO8 on October 15, 2014, 05:01:08 PM
Quote from: krk004 on October 15, 2014, 04:58:33 PM
GWS need quality not quantity at this point of their list management.

1 & 22 >> 4,6 & 7

IMO

;)
Would love to see them go after a player.
Pick 7 + Giles for Ryder  ;)
Then send 4 and 6 for 1, that'll get it done.

Good source on Saints BF board stated Saints declined pk 1 > 4&7 this morning.  8)
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Jroo on October 15, 2014, 05:30:02 PM
Quote from: krk004 on October 15, 2014, 05:28:08 PM
Quote from: JROO8 on October 15, 2014, 05:01:08 PM
Quote from: krk004 on October 15, 2014, 04:58:33 PM
GWS need quality not quantity at this point of their list management.

1 & 22 >> 4,6 & 7

IMO

;)
Would love to see them go after a player.
Pick 7 + Giles for Ryder  ;)
Then send 4 and 6 for 1, that'll get it done.

Good source on Saints BF board stated Saints declined pk 1 > 4&7 this morning.  8)
Yeah, you might be right.
1 & 22 >> 4,6 & 7 would be a massive get for the Saints!
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: krk004 on October 15, 2014, 05:45:45 PM
Quote from: JROO8 on October 15, 2014, 05:30:02 PM
Quote from: krk004 on October 15, 2014, 05:28:08 PM
Quote from: JROO8 on October 15, 2014, 05:01:08 PM
Quote from: krk004 on October 15, 2014, 04:58:33 PM
GWS need quality not quantity at this point of their list management.

1 & 22 >> 4,6 & 7

IMO

;)
Would love to see them go after a player.
Pick 7 + Giles for Ryder  ;)
Then send 4 and 6 for 1, that'll get it done.

Good source on Saints BF board stated Saints declined pk 1 > 4&7 this morning.  8)
Yeah, you might be right.
1 & 22 >> 4,6 & 7 would be a massive get for the Saints!

Probably won't get across the line, but gees it would be good!  :)
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Grazz on October 15, 2014, 08:25:19 PM
Million dollar contracts for a player after nine games blows my mind to be honest.  :o
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: meow meow on October 15, 2014, 08:43:22 PM
He'll be on only 100K next year, the same as any 2nd year first round pick. Then he'll be playing like a two million dollar player! His last quarter against the Cats was a glimpse into the future and I'm okay with us throwing such an enormous contract at him. I have all the confidence in the world that he'll prove his worth.

It's overs at this point, but you gotta do what you gotta do to lure a player of his size and quality. They don't grow on trees.

Griff is 28 and worth pick 4. Pick 4 and pick 6 is worth a genuine pick 1, key position monster. We could have accepted 4 for Griff, and sent that along with 6 to STK for pick one and grabbed McCartin. I'd prefer Boyd any day, and the fact that he has a year of development is another little bonus.

Happy with it.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Dudge on October 15, 2014, 08:46:48 PM
Quote from: Grazz on October 15, 2014, 08:25:19 PM
Million dollar contracts for a player after nine games blows my mind to be honest.  :o

Imagine in our days at Inter, instead of a coldie at half time, we could of pushed for a pie as well
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Toga on October 15, 2014, 08:49:15 PM
Well said meow - while it does seem like a ridiculous amount of money to throw at a young fella with not much experience, he looks like he's gonna be quite some player. At a glimpse I would also prefer him over McCartin so think the Dogs made the right move there, and it doesn't hurt to tie him up on a long-term contract given the potential he has.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Jroo on October 15, 2014, 08:49:41 PM
@MattThompson: GWS still trying for Paddy Ryder, but quite obviously he's not interested. Mediation between Bombers & Power didn't achieve a result today.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Grazz on October 15, 2014, 08:53:00 PM
Quote from: Dudge on October 15, 2014, 08:46:48 PM
Quote from: Grazz on October 15, 2014, 08:25:19 PM
Million dollar contracts for a player after nine games blows my mind to be honest.  :o

Imagine in our days at Inter, instead of a coldie at half time, we could of pushed for a pie as well

and a sausage roll, if i got Pie's for goals we wouldn't of lost a game in 3 years, oh wait thats right we didn't. :P
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: T Dog on October 15, 2014, 08:56:45 PM
Quote from: Dudge on October 15, 2014, 08:46:48 PM
Quote from: Grazz on October 15, 2014, 08:25:19 PM
Million dollar contracts for a player after nine games blows my mind to be honest.  :o

Imagine in our days at Inter, instead of a coldie at half time, we could of pushed for a pie as well

Would have been happy even  if the pie was cold  ;)
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Dudge on October 15, 2014, 09:04:21 PM
Quote from: Grazz on October 15, 2014, 08:53:00 PM
Quote from: Dudge on October 15, 2014, 08:46:48 PM
Quote from: Grazz on October 15, 2014, 08:25:19 PM
Million dollar contracts for a player after nine games blows my mind to be honest.  :o

Imagine in our days at Inter, instead of a coldie at half time, we could of pushed for a pie as well

and a sausage roll, if i got Pie's for goals we wouldn't of lost a game in 3 years, oh wait thats right we didn't. :P

If we got a pie for goals I scored, we wouldn't be typing, we would of starved to death by now  :(
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Dudge on October 15, 2014, 09:05:43 PM
Quote from: T Dog on October 15, 2014, 08:56:45 PM
Quote from: Dudge on October 15, 2014, 08:46:48 PM
Quote from: Grazz on October 15, 2014, 08:25:19 PM
Million dollar contracts for a player after nine games blows my mind to be honest.  :o

Imagine in our days at Inter, instead of a coldie at half time, we could of pushed for a pie as well

Would have been happy even  if the pie was cold  ;)

Maaaatttteee love me cold pies :)
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Jroo on October 15, 2014, 09:06:29 PM
I called it. Would love to see Ryder to GWS  8)
@RalphyHeraldSun: GWS not finished yet by a long shot. Offered 4 & 7 for St Kilda's 1 today, got knocked back. Trying to muscle into Ryder deal by offering 4
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Nige on October 15, 2014, 09:16:54 PM
(https://fbcdn-sphotos-f-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xpf1/v/t1.0-9/1958463_366974513476783_6422567731018995312_n.jpg?oh=edf15e69f62c3741448d6427b4f6fbb7&oe=54F6C0A5&__gda__=1425067876_a27e9fd271e16627d50c51f9b25d9634)

The new recruits.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Pkbaldy on October 15, 2014, 09:22:03 PM
Quote from: Nige on October 15, 2014, 09:16:54 PM
(https://fbcdn-sphotos-f-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xpf1/v/t1.0-9/1958463_366974513476783_6422567731018995312_n.jpg?oh=edf15e69f62c3741448d6427b4f6fbb7&oe=54F6C0A5&__gda__=1425067876_a27e9fd271e16627d50c51f9b25d9634)

The new recruits.

Dammit... I haven't unlocked pick 5 yet  :'(
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: kilbluff1985 on October 15, 2014, 09:22:37 PM
damn Ryder please go to GWS
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Nige on October 15, 2014, 09:24:27 PM
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on October 15, 2014, 09:22:37 PM
damn Ryder please go to GWS
Ugh, no. I rather him go Port.

He'll get in Mummy's way.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: JBs-Hawks on October 15, 2014, 09:25:39 PM
Yea goto Gws, no more cairo
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Nige on October 15, 2014, 09:37:21 PM
Quote from: JBs-Hawks on October 15, 2014, 09:25:39 PM
Yea goto Gws, no more cairo
Clearly worried about the force from the north of Africa.  ;)
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: JBs-Hawks on October 15, 2014, 09:38:05 PM
Beat you this year, will do it again next ;)
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Nige on October 15, 2014, 09:43:56 PM
Quote from: JBs-Hawks on October 15, 2014, 09:38:05 PM
Beat you this year, will do it again next ;)
Eh, I think we're even considering you've got the better BXVs team and I've beaten you twice there.  ;)
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Hellopplz on October 15, 2014, 09:49:03 PM
#NoMummyNoCairo
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Nige on October 15, 2014, 09:52:48 PM
St Kilda have knocked back offers for the number one pick, and despite multiple offers coming for the coveted selection, the Saints will now hold onto the draft pick, where they are expected to take Christian Petracca the herald sun reports.



Quote from: Hellopplz on October 15, 2014, 09:49:03 PM
#NoMummyNoCairo
We've got the heir to throne aka Sir Rory Lobb now too.  ;)
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: T Dog on October 15, 2014, 09:53:40 PM
Quote from: Pkbaldy on October 15, 2014, 09:22:03 PM
Quote from: Nige on October 15, 2014, 09:16:54 PM
(https://fbcdn-sphotos-f-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xpf1/v/t1.0-9/1958463_366974513476783_6422567731018995312_n.jpg?oh=edf15e69f62c3741448d6427b4f6fbb7&oe=54F6C0A5&__gda__=1425067876_a27e9fd271e16627d50c51f9b25d9634)

The new recruits.

Dammit... I haven't unlocked pick 5 yet  :'(

I would have thought photos of Petracca would be somewhere  :-\
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Toga on October 15, 2014, 10:02:21 PM
Quote from: JROO8 on October 15, 2014, 09:06:29 PM
I called it. Would love to see Ryder to GWS  8)
@RalphyHeraldSun: GWS not finished yet by a long shot. Offered 4 & 7 for St Kilda's 1 today, got knocked back. Trying to muscle into Ryder deal by offering 4

Still think it's a long shot as his heart is set on Port now

Quote from: Nige on October 15, 2014, 09:52:48 PM
St Kilda have knocked back offers for the number one pick, and despite multiple offers coming for the coveted selection, the Saints will now hold onto the draft pick, where they are expected to take Christian Petracca the herald sun reports.

Good move IMO
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Grazz on October 15, 2014, 10:14:50 PM
Is it just me or does Travis look like he found a plot of magic mushrooms.  :-\
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: TomK on October 15, 2014, 10:18:02 PM
Quote from: Grazz on October 15, 2014, 10:14:50 PM
Is it just me or does Travis look like he found a plot of magic mushrooms.  :-\
Hahahah, I see it as well.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: T Dog on October 15, 2014, 10:18:31 PM
Quote from: Grazz on October 15, 2014, 10:14:50 PM
Is it just me or does Travis look like he found a plot of magic mushrooms.  :-\

Found it, ate it, forgets who he is.....floats off into the psychedelic ether singing songs by YES and chanting anti war songs  8)  man
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Grazz on October 15, 2014, 10:31:35 PM
Bahahaha, he does look comfortably numb. 8)
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Sweetness on October 15, 2014, 11:05:01 PM
Quote from: Grazz on October 15, 2014, 10:14:50 PM
Is it just me or does Travis look like he found a plot of magic mushrooms.  :-\

100%
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Tominator on October 16, 2014, 12:08:36 AM
Deadline Day tomorrow... going to be frenetic that's for sure. My gut feel is that Schoenmakers and Gorringe will stay at their clubs. And SURELY St Kilda won't part with Pick 1...

Moves I think will go through:
Ryder to Port
Giles or Lowden to Essendon
A key defender or ruckman to Adelaide
Membrey to St Kilda

And maybe a surprise or two - fingers crossed it's an exciting day and a good one for the Crows!
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: TomK on October 16, 2014, 12:19:13 AM
Quote from: Tominator on October 16, 2014, 12:08:36 AM
Deadline Day tomorrow... going to be frenetic that's for sure. My gut feel is that Schoenmakers and Gorringe will stay at their clubs. And SURELY St Kilda won't part with Pick 1...

Moves I think will go through:
Ryder to Port
Giles or Lowden to Essendon
A key defender or ruckman to Adelaide
Membrey to St Kilda

And maybe a surprise or two - fingers crossed it's an exciting day and a good one for the Crows!
Yep, Shoenmakers is staying at the Hawks. http://www.afl.com.au/news/2014-10-15/schoey-stays-a-hawks

Hopefully the Crows pick up a ruckman and a key defender tomorrow. Just not sure who we can get without parting ways with our first and second round picks.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Mr.Craig on October 16, 2014, 12:21:32 AM
Quote from: Nige on October 15, 2014, 09:16:54 PM
(https://fbcdn-sphotos-f-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xpf1/v/t1.0-9/1958463_366974513476783_6422567731018995312_n.jpg?oh=edf15e69f62c3741448d6427b4f6fbb7&oe=54F6C0A5&__gda__=1425067876_a27e9fd271e16627d50c51f9b25d9634)

The new recruits.

Collingwood drafting a player without a face. Sounds about right.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Tominator on October 16, 2014, 12:22:01 AM
Quote from: TomK on October 16, 2014, 12:19:13 AM
Quote from: Tominator on October 16, 2014, 12:08:36 AM
Deadline Day tomorrow... going to be frenetic that's for sure. My gut feel is that Schoenmakers and Gorringe will stay at their clubs. And SURELY St Kilda won't part with Pick 1...

Moves I think will go through:
Ryder to Port
Giles or Lowden to Essendon
A key defender or ruckman to Adelaide
Membrey to St Kilda

And maybe a surprise or two - fingers crossed it's an exciting day and a good one for the Crows!
Yep, Shoenmakers is staying at the Hawks. http://www.afl.com.au/news/2014-10-15/schoey-stays-a-hawks

Hopefully the Crows pick up a ruckman and a key defender tomorrow. Just not sure who we can get without parting ways with our first and second round picks.

Well that's a blow about Schoey.. Phil Davis is probably more attainable as a free agent in 2015.. Michael Talia maybe?

And Dan Gorringe would be great in the ruck but we'd probably have to drop our 2nd round pick and/or a fringe player. I'd still much rather him than Luke Lowden.. Would have loved Giles though
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: GoLions on October 16, 2014, 12:23:24 AM
Quote from: Mr.Craig on October 16, 2014, 12:21:32 AM
Quote from: Nige on October 15, 2014, 09:16:54 PM
(https://fbcdn-sphotos-f-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xpf1/v/t1.0-9/1958463_366974513476783_6422567731018995312_n.jpg?oh=edf15e69f62c3741448d6427b4f6fbb7&oe=54F6C0A5&__gda__=1425067876_a27e9fd271e16627d50c51f9b25d9634)

The new recruits.

Collingwood drafting a player without a face. Sounds about right.
It's actually the Greendale mascot, although he shaved recently

(http://www.macleans.ca/wp-content/uploads/2012/01/Screen-shot-2012-01-25-at-2.41.37-PM-e1327532604558.png)
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Justin Bieber on October 16, 2014, 12:23:52 AM
Where's pick 25?
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: TomK on October 16, 2014, 12:24:51 AM
Quote from: whatlez on October 16, 2014, 12:23:52 AM
Where's pick 25?
At North.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: TomK on October 16, 2014, 12:32:02 AM
Quote from: Tominator on October 16, 2014, 12:22:01 AM
Quote from: TomK on October 16, 2014, 12:19:13 AM
Quote from: Tominator on October 16, 2014, 12:08:36 AM
Deadline Day tomorrow... going to be frenetic that's for sure. My gut feel is that Schoenmakers and Gorringe will stay at their clubs. And SURELY St Kilda won't part with Pick 1...

Moves I think will go through:
Ryder to Port
Giles or Lowden to Essendon
A key defender or ruckman to Adelaide
Membrey to St Kilda

And maybe a surprise or two - fingers crossed it's an exciting day and a good one for the Crows!
Yep, Shoenmakers is staying at the Hawks. http://www.afl.com.au/news/2014-10-15/schoey-stays-a-hawks

Hopefully the Crows pick up a ruckman and a key defender tomorrow. Just not sure who we can get without parting ways with our first and second round picks.

Well that's a blow about Schoey.. Phil Davis is probably more attainable as a free agent in 2015.. Michael Talia maybe?

And Dan Gorringe would be great in the ruck but we'd probably have to drop our 2nd round pick and/or a fringe player. I'd still much rather him than Luke Lowden.. Would have loved Giles though
Would love to get Davis back. Still good mates with some of the players here still. He attended Mackay's wedding.

Giles definitely would have been the best cover for Sauce out of them and Gorringe after him but won't get him either. GC would most likely want a 2nd rounder and maybe more for him and Walsh has stated we will be going to the draft with our first two picks. So pretty much leaves Lowden. But doesn't seem like we are getting him now anyway. Really confused with the club atm. We have Sauce, JJ and Osborn as our rucks. Doesn't sound too promising if Sauce goes down.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: elephants on October 16, 2014, 01:22:04 AM
Osborne is a gun. Been my non playing R4 in DT for the last two years!
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Grazz on October 16, 2014, 01:37:27 AM
Quote from: elephants on October 16, 2014, 01:22:04 AM
Osborne is a gun. Been my non playing R4 in DT for the last two years!

Last two years hey, well im convinced mate.  :P
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: elephants on October 16, 2014, 01:40:44 AM
Quote from: Grazz on October 16, 2014, 01:37:27 AM
Quote from: elephants on October 16, 2014, 01:22:04 AM
Osborne is a gun. Been my non playing R4 in DT for the last two years!

Last two years hey, well im convinced mate.  :P

Haha yep, he's become a sentimental pick now :p
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Grazz on October 16, 2014, 02:00:36 AM
I reckon Walsh has decided if we cant get the player we want then we'll get some decent youth into the club for this year rather than grab anything thats available or more like im hoping this is what he's thinking at this stage of the draft.  He'll look hard at as many on our list as he can over 2015 then decide whose trade bait and go after what we need very hard in the two drafts at the end of 2015.
Hopefully the club goes well enough next year and looks more attractive under Phil for the players we need and they'll want to come alah the Lions this year. Im kinda clutching a straws i know and the draft for us has been another lowlight for 2014 but i do think thats our best and only option as things stand at the minute. If we could of had Walsh in 2-3 weeks earlier and given him more opportunity to speak to players and work his charm as he did on me in his introductory press conference and a couple of interviews on 5AA we may have snagged a Giles or better aswell as a defender/fwd etc but we didn't and it is what it is now.

Quote from: elephants on October 16, 2014, 01:40:44 AM
Quote from: Grazz on October 16, 2014, 01:37:27 AM
Quote from: elephants on October 16, 2014, 01:22:04 AM
Osborne is a gun. Been my non playing R4 in DT for the last two years!

Last two years hey, well im convinced mate.  :P

Haha yep, he's become a sentimental pick now :p

Your not alone mate, done it also. ;)
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Ricochet on October 16, 2014, 10:14:39 AM
A lot of talk that the Hallahan to GC deal will happen this morning
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: WCarey18 on October 16, 2014, 11:04:57 AM
Quote from: Tominator on October 16, 2014, 12:08:36 AM
Deadline Day tomorrow... going to be frenetic that's for sure. My gut feel is that Schoenmakers and Gorringe will stay at their clubs. And SURELY St Kilda won't part with Pick 1...

Moves I think will go through:
Ryder to Port
Giles or Lowden to Essendon
A key defender or ruckman to Adelaide
Membrey to St Kilda

And maybe a surprise or two - fingers crossed it's an exciting day and a good one for the Crows!

Hallahan to GC
Robinson to ?? (late interest from multiple clubs)
Ryder to GWS (rumored to be offering pick 4 so Essendon can then draft Wright as replacement), Port deal looking highly unlikely.
Giles to Essendon (once Ryder deal is settled)
Lowden to Adelaide (inside info - will go to whatever club Giles DOESNT go it - doesnt want to compete against him)
Membrey to St Kilda (will end up there via picks or PSD)
Frost to Melbourne (will either end up there via picks or PSD)
Cooney to ? (North, Essendon still interested, Geelong possible late charge with pick + Hunt)
Liam Jones + Tutt to Carlton (haggling over picks at the moment)
Ben Newton to ? (late flurry of interest)
Sam Grimley to Fremantle or St Kilda
Daniel Gorringe to ? (Depends to Ryder deal)

They are the ones I have heard of so far...

Still a few to go and only three hours left!!! I just love the last few hours of trade week. Best part.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Rusty00 on October 16, 2014, 11:12:29 AM
Quote from: WCarey18 on October 16, 2014, 11:04:57 AM
Quote from: Tominator on October 16, 2014, 12:08:36 AM
Deadline Day tomorrow... going to be frenetic that's for sure. My gut feel is that Schoenmakers and Gorringe will stay at their clubs. And SURELY St Kilda won't part with Pick 1...

Moves I think will go through:
Ryder to Port
Giles or Lowden to Essendon
A key defender or ruckman to Adelaide
Membrey to St Kilda

And maybe a surprise or two - fingers crossed it's an exciting day and a good one for the Crows!

Hallahan to GC
Robinson to ?? (late interest from multiple clubs)
Ryder to GWS (rumored to be offering pick 4 so Essendon can then draft Wright as replacement)
Giles to Essendon
Lowden to Adelaide (inside info - will go to whatever club Giles DOESNT go it - doesnt want to compete against him)
Membrey to St Kilda
Frost to Melbourne
Cooney to ? (North, Essendon still interested, Geelong possible late charge with pick + Hunt)

Still a few to go and only three hours left!!! I just love the last few hours of trade week. Best part.
If Ryder doesn't end up at Port, I would think Gorringe would.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: WCarey18 on October 16, 2014, 11:20:13 AM
Quote from: AFL Site11.07am: Port Adelaide reportedly has until midday to offer a suitable deal for Paddy Ryder, otherwise it will be a "free for all" with GWS in the box seat.

There you go.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: nas on October 16, 2014, 11:22:24 AM
Quote from: WCarey18 on October 16, 2014, 11:20:13 AM
Quote from: AFL Site11.07am: Port Adelaide reportedly has until midday to offer a suitable deal for Paddy Ryder, otherwise it will be a "free for all" with GWS in the box seat.

There you go.

Does Ryder has the final say tho, agree to go
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: kilbluff1985 on October 16, 2014, 11:25:07 AM
hearing Bomber is going to the Bulldogs

makes sense all the Assistants were Geelong players
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: WCarey18 on October 16, 2014, 11:27:58 AM
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on October 16, 2014, 11:25:07 AM
hearing Bomber is going to the Bulldogs

makes sense all the Assistants were Geelong players

Doubt it. Like with Sando and Adelaide, McCartney and Thompson were good friends and he wont go there out of respect.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: kilbluff1985 on October 16, 2014, 11:33:12 AM
Quote from: WCarey18 on October 16, 2014, 11:27:58 AM
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on October 16, 2014, 11:25:07 AM
hearing Bomber is going to the Bulldogs

makes sense all the Assistants were Geelong players

Doubt it. Like with Sando and Adelaide, McCartney and Thompson were good friends and he wont go there out of respect.

bit different he would have had to move to Adelaide who wants to do that
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Ricochet on October 16, 2014, 11:35:45 AM
http://www.theage.com.au/afl/afl-news/paddy-ryder-adam-cooney-deal-close-20141016-116try.html?rand=1413419022294

A deal involving Brownlow medallist Adam Cooney is a strong chance to deliver Paddy Ryder to Port Adelaide. Under the proposed deal, which is gaining momentum in the final hours of trading, Port Adelaide would give up picks 17 and 37 for Ryder. Pick 37 would go to the Bulldogs for Cooney, who would become an Essendon player
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: WCarey18 on October 16, 2014, 11:39:36 AM
Quote from: Ricochet on October 16, 2014, 11:35:45 AM
http://www.theage.com.au/afl/afl-news/paddy-ryder-adam-cooney-deal-close-20141016-116try.html?rand=1413419022294

A deal involving Brownlow medallist Adam Cooney is a strong chance to deliver Paddy Ryder to Port Adelaide. Under the proposed deal, which is gaining momentum in the final hours of trading, Port Adelaide would give up picks 17 and 37 for Ryder. Pick 37 would go to the Bulldogs for Cooney, who would become an Essendon player

Surely it would be in Essendon's interest to pursue Gorringe with pick 37 and not Cooney.  :-X

Plus North still has interest and has pick 36...  :P

Anything could happen...
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Ricochet on October 16, 2014, 11:47:10 AM
(http://i61.tinypic.com/11juil4.png)
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: shaker on October 16, 2014, 11:49:05 AM
Would not be surprised to see Robinson get picked up today for a late pick , don't think he is that smart but he must realize this would be his last chance always liked his hardness at the footy surely with a behavior clause in his contract he would be a steal , would not mind if the Tigers went after him but looks doubtful .
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: kilbluff1985 on October 16, 2014, 11:50:02 AM
Giles to Essendon and pick 64 for our pick 53  :o
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: elephants on October 16, 2014, 11:50:47 AM
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on October 16, 2014, 11:50:02 AM
Giles to Essendon and pick 64 for our pick 53  :o

#steal bit of charity stuff from the Giants there
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: WCarey18 on October 16, 2014, 11:52:01 AM
Quote from: elephants on October 16, 2014, 11:50:47 AM
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on October 16, 2014, 11:50:02 AM
Giles to Essendon and pick 64 for our pick 53  :o

#steal bit of charity stuff from the Giants there

Wow, that is a steal, and a great pick up for the Dons.

Well, here we go, the dominos are about to fall....
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: nas on October 16, 2014, 11:57:04 AM
Newton to Geelong?
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: WCarey18 on October 16, 2014, 12:01:06 PM
Deal done for Ryder.

Pick 17 + 37 FOR Ryder.

#finally
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Mr.Craig on October 16, 2014, 12:01:34 PM
Essendon getting busy.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Master Q on October 16, 2014, 12:03:32 PM
Quote from: WCarey18 on October 16, 2014, 12:01:06 PM
Deal done for Ryder.

Pick 17 + 37 FOR Ryder.

#finally
37 to Dogs for Cooney

#official
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Tominator on October 16, 2014, 12:03:59 PM
any chance of Crows moving for Gorringe? Port have now got Ryder and given up their first two picks, so Crows probably have a better offer for Gold Coast than Port do, and more opportunities for the player
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: nas on October 16, 2014, 12:04:25 PM
Power to chase Gorringe maybe by using Newton to Geelong?
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: WCarey18 on October 16, 2014, 12:05:48 PM
Quote from: Tominator on October 16, 2014, 12:03:59 PM
any chance of Crows moving for Gorringe? Port have now got Ryder and given up their first two picks, so Crows probably have a better offer for Gold Coast than Port do, and more opportunities for the player

Would think Adelaide's pick 31 would get it done.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Master Q on October 16, 2014, 12:07:27 PM
Emma Quayle ‏@emmasq  7s7 seconds ago
Mitch Hallahan to Gold Coast should be done soon, for 2 picks in 40s.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Master Q on October 16, 2014, 12:08:16 PM
Quote from: Master Q on October 16, 2014, 12:07:27 PM
Emma Quayle ‏@emmasq  7s7 seconds ago
Mitch Hallahan to Gold Coast should be done soon, for 2 picks in 40s.
Official. Pick 47 and 49.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: WCarey18 on October 16, 2014, 12:08:53 PM
Quote from: Master Q on October 16, 2014, 12:07:27 PM
Emma Quayle ‏@emmasq  7s7 seconds ago
Mitch Hallahan to Gold Coast should be done soon, for 2 picks in 40s.

Pick 47 + 49. Originally Hawks knocked it back asking for pick 29, but GC said no.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Mr.Craig on October 16, 2014, 12:09:45 PM
Oh hell no.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Tominator on October 16, 2014, 12:11:53 PM
rumour only, but just saw this on FoxSports Trade Chat

Melbourne give up Picks 2 and 3
GWS give up Picks 4, 7 and Tom Bugg
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: WCarey18 on October 16, 2014, 12:13:12 PM
Quote from: Tominator on October 16, 2014, 12:11:53 PM
rumour only, but just saw this on FoxSports Trade Chat

Melbourne give up Picks 2 and 3
GWS give up Picks 4, 7 and Tom Bugg

Doubt Melbourne would give up the chance to draft McCartin and Brayshaw now. But interesting trade.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Mr.Craig on October 16, 2014, 12:14:57 PM
I'd rather 4, 7 and Buggy.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Ricochet on October 16, 2014, 12:16:39 PM
Great get by the Suns
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: SydneyRox on October 16, 2014, 12:21:34 PM
Quote from: Tominator on October 16, 2014, 12:11:53 PM
rumour only, but just saw this on FoxSports Trade Chat

Melbourne give up Picks 2 and 3
GWS give up Picks 4, 7 and Tom Bugg

dont like it, plus melb have pretty much said they will take 2+3 to the draft
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Justin Bieber on October 16, 2014, 12:27:58 PM
Tom Bugg sucks.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Tominator on October 16, 2014, 12:35:12 PM
Pick 31 or even Pick 50 may be enough to get the Gorringe deal done. God I hope we can get him, not looking likely though.

This tweet from Sam Edmund from the Herald Sun:

Sam Edmund
@SammyHeraldSun
"If Adelaide is interested in Gorringe the Suns don't know about it."
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Ringo on October 16, 2014, 12:39:02 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on October 16, 2014, 12:16:39 PM
Great get by the Suns
Agree Richo but whether he gets games immediately in that midfield is an issue. (Ablett, Bennell, O'Meara, Martin, Rischitelli, Prestia and David Swallow) May mean Ablett spends more time forward now.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Ricochet on October 16, 2014, 12:43:03 PM
Quote from: Ringo on October 16, 2014, 12:39:02 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on October 16, 2014, 12:16:39 PM
Great get by the Suns
Agree Richo but whether he gets games immediately in that midfield is an issue. (Ablett, Bennell, O'Meara, Martin, Rischitelli, Prestia and David Swallow) May mean Ablett spends more time forward now.
Yeh I've brought that up previously. Seemed like he would have gotten more opportunities in Hawks midfield in the future. Must have thrown some serious $$$ at him
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: kilbluff1985 on October 16, 2014, 12:45:43 PM
Bennell and Martin were playing forward
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: KoopKicka on October 16, 2014, 01:09:55 PM
No posts in here for 25 minutes? Incredible stuff! :o
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: ADEZ on October 16, 2014, 01:11:48 PM
Quote from: KoopKicka on October 16, 2014, 01:09:55 PM
No posts in here for 25 minutes? Incredible stuff! :o
Hopefully the calm before the storm ???
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Grazz on October 16, 2014, 01:15:46 PM
Any second now the Crows will do something.  :P
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: WCarey18 on October 16, 2014, 01:17:02 PM
Quote from: Grazz on October 16, 2014, 01:15:46 PM
Any second now the Crows will do something.  :P

Dangerfield.  :o
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Grazz on October 16, 2014, 01:18:35 PM
Quote from: WCarey18 on October 16, 2014, 01:17:02 PM
Quote from: Grazz on October 16, 2014, 01:15:46 PM
Any second now the Crows will do something.  :P

Dangerfield.  :o

Lol yeh probably, just to cap off a spectacular trade period for us. :P :P
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Justin Bieber on October 16, 2014, 01:20:54 PM
I don't know if it was mentioned, but GWS offered pick 4 and 6 for Paddy I heard?
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Ziplock on October 16, 2014, 01:31:41 PM
Quote from: elephants on October 16, 2014, 11:50:47 AM
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on October 16, 2014, 11:50:02 AM
Giles to Essendon and pick 64 for our pick 53  :o

#steal bit of charity stuff from the Giants there

haha, oath, I'm glad essendon ended up doing to port deal after coming so ahead with giles.

Quote from: Tominator on October 16, 2014, 12:22:01 AM
Quote from: TomK on October 16, 2014, 12:19:13 AM
Quote from: Tominator on October 16, 2014, 12:08:36 AM
Deadline Day tomorrow... going to be frenetic that's for sure. My gut feel is that Schoenmakers and Gorringe will stay at their clubs. And SURELY St Kilda won't part with Pick 1...

Moves I think will go through:
Ryder to Port
Giles or Lowden to Essendon
A key defender or ruckman to Adelaide
Membrey to St Kilda

And maybe a surprise or two - fingers crossed it's an exciting day and a good one for the Crows!
Yep, Shoenmakers is staying at the Hawks. http://www.afl.com.au/news/2014-10-15/schoey-stays-a-hawks

Hopefully the Crows pick up a ruckman and a key defender tomorrow. Just not sure who we can get without parting ways with our first and second round picks.

Well that's a blow about Schoey.. Phil Davis is probably more attainable as a free agent in 2015.. Michael Talia maybe?

And Dan Gorringe would be great in the ruck but we'd probably have to drop our 2nd round pick and/or a fringe player. I'd still much rather him than Luke Lowden.. Would have loved Giles though

Davis won't be a free agent, he hasn't had 8 years with the giants yet?

Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Mr.Craig on October 16, 2014, 01:33:47 PM
Good grief, Pick 21...

21. St Kilda (received from Geelong in Rhys Stanley trade; traded to the Cats by the Brisbane Lions in Allen Christensen trade; traded to the Lions by Greater Western Sydney in Joel Patfull trade; traded to the Giants by Gold Coast in 2012; traded to the Suns by the Brisbane Lions in 2010; originally received by the Lions as compensation for Jared Brennan)
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: WCarey18 on October 16, 2014, 01:36:40 PM
Quote from: Mr.Craig on October 16, 2014, 01:33:47 PM
Good grief, Pick 21...

21. St Kilda (received from Geelong in Rhys Stanley trade; traded to the Cats by the Brisbane Lions in Allen Christensen trade; traded to the Lions by Greater Western Sydney in Joel Patfull trade; traded to the Giants by Gold Coast in 2012; traded to the Suns by the Brisbane Lions in 2010; originally received by the Lions as compensation for Jared Brennan)

Pick 48 last year went on a journey and ended up being wasted. GWS passed on the pick.  ::)

Pick 17 in 2001 too.  Began by going to Sydney for Stafford, then to St Kilda for Hall, to Freo for Black,  to Melbourne for Farmer, finally settling in Geelong for Bizzell.

That year, Geelong took James Kelly with pick 17.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Mr.Craig on October 16, 2014, 01:39:28 PM
Half an hour to go. It's a game of musical chairs and the AFL have their finger on the stop button.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Mr.Craig on October 16, 2014, 01:42:44 PM
Looks like Crows won't be getting Gorringe or Downie. Lowden their last hope.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Grazz on October 16, 2014, 01:49:21 PM
Quote from: Mr.Craig on October 16, 2014, 01:42:44 PM
Looks like Crows won't be getting Gorringe or Downie. Lowden their last hope.

Doubt Lowden is a high priority, if we do make a play for him it will only be for picks 50 and 67 doubt that will get him. 10 and 31 were keeping.

ROK becomes Walsh's assistant, welcome ROK.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Nige on October 16, 2014, 01:53:04 PM
Just caught up, been out all morning.

Hopefully an eventful last 15 mins.  :P
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: WCarey18 on October 16, 2014, 01:54:47 PM
Quote from: Nige on October 16, 2014, 01:53:04 PM
Just caught up, been out all morning.

Hopefully an eventful last 15 mins.  :P

Not sure...its been quiet ever since the Ryder-Giles-Cooney deal...
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Grazz on October 16, 2014, 01:55:49 PM
Hard to see much else happening now.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Pkbaldy on October 16, 2014, 01:56:01 PM
15 more minutes and Pick 1 is ours!
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Grazz on October 16, 2014, 01:59:03 PM
GWS has just traded Sam Frost, picks 40 & 53 to Melbourne for its pick 23.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: WCarey18 on October 16, 2014, 02:00:54 PM
Quote from: Grazz on October 16, 2014, 01:59:03 PM
GWS has just traded Sam Frost, picks 40 & 53 to Melbourne for its pick 23.

Seems like a good deal for all, unlikely GWS would have used those low picks.

GWS now with 5 picks inside the top 25....yet again.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: kilbluff1985 on October 16, 2014, 02:02:40 PM
Pick 37 to Sydney for Biggs to WBD
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Grazz on October 16, 2014, 02:02:51 PM
Shane Biggs + #39 from Sydney to the Bulldogs for #37 i think they said.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Nige on October 16, 2014, 02:02:59 PM
Quote from: WCarey18 on October 16, 2014, 02:00:54 PM
GWS now with 5 picks inside the top 25....yet again.
This slightly annoys me, but eh... what can ya do?  :P

tbag incoming...
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: elephants on October 16, 2014, 02:03:00 PM
Wanna see someone drop a trade with like 24 seconds left haha
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: kilbluff1985 on October 16, 2014, 02:03:59 PM
Liam Jones to Carlton for pick 46 to WBD
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: WCarey18 on October 16, 2014, 02:04:20 PM
Quote from: elephants on October 16, 2014, 02:03:00 PM
Wanna see someone drop a trade with like 24 seconds left haha

Membrey?
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Grazz on October 16, 2014, 02:06:05 PM
Quote from: WCarey18 on October 16, 2014, 02:04:20 PM
Quote from: elephants on October 16, 2014, 02:03:00 PM
Wanna see someone drop a trade with like 24 seconds left haha

Membrey?

He's gone already mate.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Master Q on October 16, 2014, 02:06:40 PM
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on October 16, 2014, 02:03:59 PM
Liam Jones to Carlton for pick 46 to WBD
Beat me to it.

All happening now.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: WCarey18 on October 16, 2014, 02:07:25 PM
Quote from: Grazz on October 16, 2014, 02:06:05 PM
Quote from: WCarey18 on October 16, 2014, 02:04:20 PM
Quote from: elephants on October 16, 2014, 02:03:00 PM
Wanna see someone drop a trade with like 24 seconds left haha

Membrey?

He's gone already mate.

To who? He hasn't been traded yet. Looks like Saints will take him in PSD now.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: meow meow on October 16, 2014, 02:08:29 PM
Quote from: Nige on October 16, 2014, 02:02:59 PM
Quote from: WCarey18 on October 16, 2014, 02:00:54 PM
GWS now with 5 picks inside the top 25....yet again.
This slightly annoys me, but eh... what can ya do?  :P

tbag incoming...

Well they had pick 4 by normal means so that doesn't really count. They've lost a pick 1, 2 and 12 in the process.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Ricochet on October 16, 2014, 02:09:54 PM
Quote from: Grazz on October 16, 2014, 01:55:49 PM
Hard to see much else happening now.
Spoke to soon mate! haha I was only away for 10 minutes and 3 trades dropped
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Nige on October 16, 2014, 02:10:00 PM
Lowden and Cheney to the Crows according to Corey Norris.

P.Keane confirms...

Patrick Keane ‏@AFL_PKeane now5 seconds ago

P'work lodged: Hawthorn exchange L Lowden K Cheney, R3 (curr43) R3 (curr47) R3 (curr59) to Adel for R2 (curr 31), R3 (curr 50), R4(curr68).
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: WCarey18 on October 16, 2014, 02:11:05 PM
According to AFL Trade Radio, Luke Lowden and Kyle Cheney land at Adelaide with 1 second left!
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: TomK on October 16, 2014, 02:13:11 PM
WE DID SOMETHING!  :o
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Mr.Craig on October 16, 2014, 02:13:47 PM
Massive deal.

DONE DEAL: Hawthorn's Kyle Cheney and Luke Lowden, plus picks 43, 47 and 59 traded to Adelaide for picks 31, 50 and 68
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: kilbluff1985 on October 16, 2014, 02:14:22 PM
big win for Crows
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Ricochet on October 16, 2014, 02:14:47 PM
Quote from: Mr.Craig on October 16, 2014, 02:13:47 PM
Massive deal.

DONE DEAL: Hawthorn's Kyle Cheney and Luke Lowden, plus picks 43, 47 and 59 traded to Adelaide for picks 31, 50 and 68
Small gain in picks for two players.. Hawks just basically finding a home for those boys.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Mr.Craig on October 16, 2014, 02:14:58 PM
So I believe Fremantle and Richmond were the only two teams not active in the trade period.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: WCarey18 on October 16, 2014, 02:15:39 PM
Quote from: Mr.Craig on October 16, 2014, 02:14:58 PM
So I believe Fremantle and Richmond were the only two teams not active in the trade period.

West Coast as well.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: elephants on October 16, 2014, 02:15:51 PM
Quote from: Mr.Craig on October 16, 2014, 02:14:58 PM
So I believe Fremantle and Richmond were the only two teams not active in the trade period.

WCE?
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Ricochet on October 16, 2014, 02:15:55 PM
and one last one


Trade paperwork lodged:
Adel Crows exchange Rd1 pick (curr. 10) and Rd3 pick (curr 47) to Geel for Rd1 pick (curr. 14)& Rd2 pick (curr. 35).
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Mr.Craig on October 16, 2014, 02:16:26 PM
Yeah yeah, I just remembered WC. :)
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Mat0369 on October 16, 2014, 02:18:05 PM
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on October 16, 2014, 02:03:59 PM
Liam Jones to Carlton for pick 46 to WBD

(http://stream1.gifsoup.com/view/634988/family-guy-o.gif)
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Nige on October 16, 2014, 02:19:51 PM
I'll back Francis Jackson and the recruiting team in here.

Fairly certain we're lining up something big next year.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: WCarey18 on October 16, 2014, 02:21:10 PM
So, with trade week concluding, here are the following players that did not end up moving after being talked about:

Daniel Gorringe
Tim Membrey
Mitch Robinson
Kane Lucas
Taylor Hunt
Sam Grimley
Ben Newton
Terry Milera
Jason Tutt
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Grazz on October 16, 2014, 02:22:00 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on October 16, 2014, 02:09:54 PM
Quote from: Grazz on October 16, 2014, 01:55:49 PM
Hard to see much else happening now.
Spoke to soon mate! haha I was only away for 10 minutes and 3 trades dropped

Reverse Psychology mate, as soon as i said something was bound to happen. Someone had to make a statement to get the Crows involved. Can thank me anytime Crows people haha. Not thrilled about giving #10.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: kilbluff1985 on October 16, 2014, 02:22:39 PM
any reason why trade period is so short?
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Ricochet on October 16, 2014, 02:23:26 PM
Quote from: WCarey18 on October 16, 2014, 02:21:10 PM
So, with trade week concluding, here are the following players that did not end up moving after being talked about:

Daniel Gorringe
Tim Membrey
Mitch Robinson
Kane Lucas
Taylor Hunt
Sam Grimley
Ben Newton
Terry Milera
Jason Tutt
Saints confirmed they will take Membrey with their first pick in the PSD
Gorringe will be staying at GC
Lucas will be delisted
Carlton will look to grab Tutt in the PSD

Not sure on the others
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Toga on October 16, 2014, 02:24:09 PM
Quote from: Mr.Craig on October 16, 2014, 02:14:58 PM
So I believe Fremantle and Richmond were the only two teams not active in the trade period.

It's interesting because there were a few players up for grabs that could've suited the Tiges needs this year. Makes me think Blair & co have something up their sleeve for next year, but who knows.

Surprised that we didn't throw a late pick at the Dogs for Tutt, could've been a good pickup.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Grazz on October 16, 2014, 02:24:30 PM
Quote from: WCarey18 on October 16, 2014, 02:07:25 PM
Quote from: Grazz on October 16, 2014, 02:06:05 PM
Quote from: WCarey18 on October 16, 2014, 02:04:20 PM
Quote from: elephants on October 16, 2014, 02:03:00 PM
Wanna see someone drop a trade with like 24 seconds left haha

Membrey?

He's gone already mate.

To who? He hasn't been traded yet. Looks like Saints will take him in PSD now.

Yeh i should of elaborated mate but so many trades going down in the last minutes i was trying to get them all out. Yep looks like you'll grab in in the PSD which will be a cheap get for ya's.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Rusty00 on October 16, 2014, 02:25:16 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on October 16, 2014, 02:23:26 PM
Quote from: WCarey18 on October 16, 2014, 02:21:10 PM
So, with trade week concluding, here are the following players that did not end up moving after being talked about:

Daniel Gorringe
Tim Membrey
Mitch Robinson
Kane Lucas
Taylor Hunt
Sam Grimley
Ben Newton
Terry Milera
Jason Tutt
Saints confirmed they will take Membrey with their first pick in the PSD
Gorringe will be staying at GC
Lucas will be delisted
Carlton will look to grab Tutt in the PSD

Not sure on the others
Newton would definitely stay at Port. Robinson and probably Hunt will be delisted as well I reckon. Milera to SANFL?
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: TomK on October 16, 2014, 02:25:53 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on October 16, 2014, 02:15:55 PM
and one last one


Trade paperwork lodged:
Adel Crows exchange Rd1 pick (curr. 10) and Rd3 pick (curr 47) to Geel for Rd1 pick (curr. 14)& Rd2 pick (curr. 35).
Well, that's......interesting.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Grazz on October 16, 2014, 02:26:19 PM
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on October 16, 2014, 02:22:39 PM
any reason why trade period is so short?

Short, two weeks is to long mate.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Nige on October 16, 2014, 02:26:26 PM
Geelong Cats ‏@GeelongCats 2m2 minutes ago

Late swap of draft picks. Cats give Adelaide picks 14 and 35 in return for picks 10 and 47.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Toga on October 16, 2014, 02:26:46 PM
Quote from: TomK on October 16, 2014, 02:25:53 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on October 16, 2014, 02:15:55 PM
and one last one


Trade paperwork lodged:
Adel Crows exchange Rd1 pick (curr. 10) and Rd3 pick (curr 47) to Geel for Rd1 pick (curr. 14)& Rd2 pick (curr. 35).
Well, that's......interesting.

Very! Not sure about this one tbh...
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: elephants on October 16, 2014, 02:27:19 PM
Quote from: Mat0369 on October 16, 2014, 02:18:05 PM
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on October 16, 2014, 02:03:59 PM
Liam Jones to Carlton for pick 46 to WBD

(http://stream1.gifsoup.com/view/634988/family-guy-o.gif)

Is that a reference to Carlton's entire list? Or trading a late national pick for a young key forward? :P
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: kilbluff1985 on October 16, 2014, 02:27:49 PM
Quote from: Grazz on October 16, 2014, 02:26:19 PM
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on October 16, 2014, 02:22:39 PM
any reason why trade period is so short?

Short, two weeks is to long mate.

shows you don't have any XV Teams lol  :P
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Ricochet on October 16, 2014, 02:28:04 PM
Quote from: Toga on October 16, 2014, 02:26:46 PM
Quote from: TomK on October 16, 2014, 02:25:53 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on October 16, 2014, 02:15:55 PM
and one last one


Trade paperwork lodged:
Adel Crows exchange Rd1 pick (curr. 10) and Rd3 pick (curr 47) to Geel for Rd1 pick (curr. 14)& Rd2 pick (curr. 35).
Well, that's......interesting.

Very! Not sure about this one tbh...
Adelaide would be confident they can still get their boy at 14 and get a late upgrade for basically no loss
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Toga on October 16, 2014, 02:28:17 PM
Quote from: elephants on October 16, 2014, 02:27:19 PM
Is that a reference to Carlton's entire list? Or trading a late national pick for a young key forward? :P
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: elephants on October 16, 2014, 02:30:14 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on October 16, 2014, 02:28:04 PM
Quote from: Toga on October 16, 2014, 02:26:46 PM
Quote from: TomK on October 16, 2014, 02:25:53 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on October 16, 2014, 02:15:55 PM
and one last one


Trade paperwork lodged:
Adel Crows exchange Rd1 pick (curr. 10) and Rd3 pick (curr 47) to Geel for Rd1 pick (curr. 14)& Rd2 pick (curr. 35).
Well, that's......interesting.

Very! Not sure about this one tbh...
Adelaide would be confident they can still get their boy at 14 and get a late upgrade for basically no loss

This ^

We did it last year with Collingwood as we were pretty certain that Dom Sheed would slip to pick 11. By downgrading our first rounder we acquired N28 to send to Brissie for Yeo.

Should be a win-win.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Grazz on October 16, 2014, 02:33:27 PM
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on October 16, 2014, 02:27:49 PM
Quote from: Grazz on October 16, 2014, 02:26:19 PM
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on October 16, 2014, 02:22:39 PM
any reason why trade period is so short?

Short, two weeks is to long mate.

shows you don't have any XV Teams lol  :P

Haha to right mate, those comp trading periods are to much pressure for an old bloke.  :P
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Nige on October 16, 2014, 02:37:31 PM
Picking who the Pies and Cats will select with 5 and 10 respectively is going to be annoying.  :P
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Mr.Craig on October 16, 2014, 02:40:32 PM
Did West Coast and Freo forget about the time difference?
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Ricochet on October 16, 2014, 02:42:11 PM
Quote from: Mr.Craig on October 16, 2014, 02:40:32 PM
Did West Coast and Freo forget about the time difference?
lol it wasn't like we weren't trying mate! We throw huge offers at blokes then they use it against other clubs :(
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: kilbluff1985 on October 16, 2014, 02:43:34 PM
Quote from: Mr.Craig on October 16, 2014, 02:40:32 PM
Did West Coast and Freo forget about the time difference?

Nobody told him the trade period had even started
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: WCarey18 on October 16, 2014, 02:43:46 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on October 16, 2014, 02:42:11 PM
Quote from: Mr.Craig on October 16, 2014, 02:40:32 PM
Did West Coast and Freo forget about the time difference?
lol it wasn't like we weren't trying mate! We throw huge offers at blokes then they use it against other clubs :(

Got to be frustrating over there at the moment. Hard to attract players it seems.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: elephants on October 16, 2014, 02:46:58 PM
Quote from: WCarey18 on October 16, 2014, 02:43:46 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on October 16, 2014, 02:42:11 PM
Quote from: Mr.Craig on October 16, 2014, 02:40:32 PM
Did West Coast and Freo forget about the time difference?
lol it wasn't like we weren't trying mate! We throw huge offers at blokes then they use it against other clubs :(
Got to be frustrating over there at the moment. Hard to attract players it seems.

It is, but I don't think its a huge loss. I didn't rate a lot of what we could have had. Varcoe? Pfft. Christo? Had his heart set on QLD. Lucas? Delisted FA perhaps.

And Frawley for Freo could have been great but good lord would they have had to overpay for him.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Ricochet on October 16, 2014, 02:54:03 PM
Quote from: WCarey18 on October 16, 2014, 02:43:46 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on October 16, 2014, 02:42:11 PM
Quote from: Mr.Craig on October 16, 2014, 02:40:32 PM
Did West Coast and Freo forget about the time difference?
lol it wasn't like we weren't trying mate! We throw huge offers at blokes then they use it against other clubs :(

Got to be frustrating over there at the moment. Hard to attract players it seems.
Extremely frustrating mate. But our squad is good enough, so we'll build from internally
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Ricochet on October 16, 2014, 02:55:08 PM
Club-by-club summary

ADELAIDE
Gained: Luke Lowden (Haw), Kyle Cheney (Haw), Pick 43 (Haw), Pick 47 (Haw), Pick 59 (Haw)
Lost: Pick 31 (Haw), Pick 50 (Haw), Pick 68 (Haw)


BRISBANE LIONS
Gained: Allen Christensen (Geel), Dayne Beams (Coll), Pick 67 (Coll)
Lost: Joel Patfull (GWS), Jack Crisp (Coll), Pick 5 (Coll), Pick 25 (Coll)


CARLTON
Gained: Liam Jones (WB), Kristian Jaksch (GWS), Mark Whiley (GWS), Pick 19 (GWS), Pick 61 (Melb), Pick 79 (Melb)
Lost: Jarrad Waite (NM - UFA), Jeff Garlett (Melb), Pick 7 (GWS), Pick 46 (WB), Pick 83 (Melb)


COLLINGWOOD
Gained: Travis Varcoe (Geel), Jack Crisp (BL), Levi Greenwood (NM), Pick 5 (BL)
Lost: Heritier Lumumba (Melb), Dayne Beams (BL), Pick 67 (BL)


ESSENDON
Gained: Adam Cooney (WB), James Gwilt (StK UFA), Jonathan Giles (GWS), Pick 17 (PA), Pick 62 (GWS)
Lost: Paddy Ryder (PA), Pick 53 (GWS)


FREMANTLE N/A


GEELONG
Gained: Mitch Clark (Melb), Rhys Stanley (StK), Pick 60 (StK)
Lost: Allen Christensen (BL), Travis Varcoe (Coll)


GOLD COAST
Gained: Nick Malceski (Syd  UFA), Mitch Hallahan (Haw)
Lost: Pick 47 (Haw), Pick 49 (Haw)


GWS GIANTS
Gained: Ryan Griffen (WB), Joel Patfull (BL), Pick 6 (WB), Pick 7 (Carl), Pick 23 (Melb)
Lost: Tom Boyd (WB), Jonathan Giles (Ess), Sam Frost (Melb), Jono O'Rourke (Haw), Kristian Jaksch (Carl), Mark Whiley (Carl), Pick 21 (BL), Pick 43 (Haw), Pick 62 (Ess)


HAWTHORN
Gained: James Frawley (Melbourne UFA), Jono O'Rourke (GWS), Pick 49 (GC)
Lost: Mitch Hallahan (GC), Luke Lowden (Adel), Kyle Cheney (Adel), Pick 19 (GWS), Pick 40 (GWS), Pick 59 (Adel)


MELBOURNE
Gained: Heritier Lumumba (Coll), Jeff Garlett (Carl), Sam Frost (GWS), Pick 40 (GWS), Pick 53 (GWS), Pick 83 (Carl)
Lost: James Frawley (Haw  UFA), Mitch Clark (Geel), Pick 23 (GWS), Pick 61 (Carl), Pick 79 (Carl)


NORTH MELBOURNE
Gained: Jarrad Waite (Carlton  UFA), Shaun Higgins (Bulldogs  RFA), Pick 25 (Coll)
Lost: Levi Greenwood (Coll)


PORT ADELAIDE
Gained: Paddy Ryder (Ess)
Lost: Pick 17 (Ess), Pick 37 (Ess)


RICHMOND N/A

ST KILDA
Gained: Pick 21 (Geel)
Lost: James Gwilt (Ess UFA), Rhys Stanley (Geel), Pick 60 (Geel)


SYDNEY
Gained: Pick 37 (WB)
Lost: Nick Malceski (Gold Coast  UFA), Shane Biggs (WB), Pick 39 (WB)


WEST COAST N/A

WESTERN BULLDOGS
Gained: Tom Boyd (GWS), Shane Biggs (Syd), Pick 39 (Syd), Pick 46 (Carl)
Lost: Ryan Griffen (GWS), Adam Cooney (Ess), Shaun Higgins (Nth.Melb.  RFA), Liam Jones (Carl), Pick 6 (GWS)
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: meow meow on October 16, 2014, 02:55:17 PM
Pick 37 for Biggs and 39

I would have taken a straight swap of Biggs for Cooney. Really rate him from what he has shown at AFL level so far. The Swans rated him high enough to play him in 2 finals last year.

Swans seem to be happy enough to let Membrey walk for nothing too. What's going on up there?
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Toga on October 16, 2014, 02:58:40 PM
Quote from: meow meow on October 16, 2014, 02:55:17 PM
Pick 37 for Biggs and 39

I would have taken a straight swap of Biggs for Cooney. Really rate him from what he has shown at AFL level so far. The Swans rated him high enough to play him in 2 finals last year.

Swans seem to be happy enough to let Membrey walk for nothing too. What's going on up there?

Apparently Biggs has been on the rookie list for 3 years now and needed to be upgraded or delisted... Since they had committed to upgrading Xavier Richards and Jake Lloyd, and so didn't have the room/salary cap space to have Biggs on the senior list and so had no choice but to get rid of him it sounds like it...

As for Membrey, I have no idea why they didn't just take what they could get for him...
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Grazz on October 16, 2014, 03:00:15 PM
Swans loss is the Saints gain. Will be a very cheap get for the Saints.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: elephants on October 16, 2014, 03:03:16 PM
Somewhat surprised they upgraded Richards over Biggs
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Jukes on October 16, 2014, 03:26:01 PM
Cooney, Giles, Gwilt, 17 and 62
for
Ryder and 53

I'd say that's a good trade period for us. Didn't see this "mass exodus" or "players not wanting to go to the dons" like some journalists and you guys have been saying
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Grazz on October 16, 2014, 03:29:08 PM
Quote from: Jukes on October 16, 2014, 03:26:01 PM
Cooney, Giles, Gwilt, 17 and 62
for
Ryder and 53

I'd say that's a good trade period for us. Didn't see this "mass exodus" or "players not wanting to go to the dons" like some journalists and you guys have been saying

Yeh it certainly wasnt the doom and gloom the media predicted early, came out of it ok considering Ryder was going no matter what.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Toga on October 16, 2014, 03:29:10 PM
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Good trade period for Richmond as well :P Unless we pick up any delisted FA's, we will be going to the draft to fill 5 senior spots and 4 rookie spots
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: elephants on October 16, 2014, 03:31:16 PM
Quote from: Toga on October 16, 2014, 03:29:10 PM
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Good trade period for Richmond West Coast as well :P
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Grazz on October 16, 2014, 03:36:48 PM
Reckon both clubs have a solid view of what they want and werent prepared to get involved with deals that saw them lose to much to gain a bit. No point trading for trade sake. Both list's are in decent shape.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Jroo on October 16, 2014, 03:41:33 PM
Lol well that sucked.
I'm not too concerned that we didn't get anyone, better than trading for the sake of it. 
I wish we looked at Biggs, they gave him away for free.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: KoopKicka on October 16, 2014, 03:45:56 PM
Quote from: JROO8 on October 16, 2014, 03:41:33 PM
I'm not too concerned that we didn't get anyone, better than trading for the sake of it. 

Really JROO? :P
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Jroo on October 16, 2014, 03:47:21 PM
Quote from: KoopKicka on October 16, 2014, 03:45:56 PM
Quote from: JROO8 on October 16, 2014, 03:41:33 PM
I'm not too concerned that we didn't get anyone, better than trading for the sake of it. 

Really JROO? :P
It's not XVs :P
Like I said, I'd rather no one than go after someone like Cooney or Waite.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: kilbluff1985 on October 16, 2014, 03:56:22 PM
even i laughed (http://i62.tinypic.com/o0uqnn.jpg)
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Tominator on October 16, 2014, 05:17:53 PM
Quote from: Grazz on October 16, 2014, 03:29:08 PM
Quote from: Jukes on October 16, 2014, 03:26:01 PM
Cooney, Giles, Gwilt, 17 and 62
for
Ryder and 53

I'd say that's a good trade period for us. Didn't see this "mass exodus" or "players not wanting to go to the dons" like some journalists and you guys have been saying

Yeh it certainly wasnt the doom and gloom the media predicted early, came out of it ok considering Ryder was going no matter what.

+1. Strengthened in depth and you're back in the first-round... come out of the trade window pretty well IMO
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Nige on October 16, 2014, 05:33:20 PM
Quote from: Toga on October 16, 2014, 03:29:10 PM
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Good trade period for Richmond as well :P Unless we pick up any delisted FA's, we will be going to the draft to fill 5 senior spots and 4 rookie spots
5 senior spots seems a bit much and same with 4 rookie spots. I can see us maybe picking up at least one delisted free agent (Taylor Hunt) and maybe rookie drafting another established player (a la Miles, Tank, Banfield).
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Jroo on October 16, 2014, 05:34:45 PM
Quote from: Nige on October 16, 2014, 05:33:20 PM
Quote from: Toga on October 16, 2014, 03:29:10 PM
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Good trade period for Richmond as well :P Unless we pick up any delisted FA's, we will be going to the draft to fill 5 senior spots and 4 rookie spots
5 senior spots seems a bit much and same with 4 rookie spots. I can see us maybe picking up at least one delisted free agent (Taylor Hunt) and maybe rookie drafting another established player (a la Miles, Tank, Banfield).
Yeah I hope we get Hunt.

I reckon we'll rookie at least one recycled player, maybe like a Petrenko (who I'd rather over Banfield)
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Jukes on October 16, 2014, 05:55:17 PM
Quote from: Tominator on October 16, 2014, 05:17:53 PM
Quote from: Grazz on October 16, 2014, 03:29:08 PM
Quote from: Jukes on October 16, 2014, 03:26:01 PM
Cooney, Giles, Gwilt, 17 and 62
for
Ryder and 53

I'd say that's a good trade period for us. Didn't see this "mass exodus" or "players not wanting to go to the dons" like some journalists and you guys have been saying

Yeh it certainly wasnt the doom and gloom the media predicted early, came out of it ok considering Ryder was going no matter what.

+1. Strengthened in depth and you're back in the first-round... come out of the trade window pretty well IMO

Already had pick 20? 17+20. Next pick is 62 though.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Mr.Craig on October 16, 2014, 05:56:46 PM
Who do we think will get Robbo?
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: kilbluff1985 on October 16, 2014, 05:59:28 PM
Quote from: Mr.Craig on October 16, 2014, 05:56:46 PM
Who do we think will get Robbo?

Port Melbourne
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Mailman the 2nd on October 16, 2014, 06:02:03 PM
Quote from: elephants on October 16, 2014, 03:03:16 PM
Somewhat surprised they upgraded Richards over Biggs

Key defenders > small defenders
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: elephants on October 16, 2014, 06:03:51 PM
Quote from: Mailman the 2nd on October 16, 2014, 06:02:03 PM
Quote from: elephants on October 16, 2014, 03:03:16 PM
Somewhat surprised they upgraded Richards over Biggs

Key defenders > small defenders

But Biggs > Richards. Surely you'd go the better player. More chance of Richards being delisted then relisted than Biggs imo.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Mailman the 2nd on October 16, 2014, 06:08:09 PM
Quote from: elephants on October 16, 2014, 06:03:51 PM
Quote from: Mailman the 2nd on October 16, 2014, 06:02:03 PM
Quote from: elephants on October 16, 2014, 03:03:16 PM
Somewhat surprised they upgraded Richards over Biggs

Key defenders > small defenders

But Biggs > Richards. Surely you'd go the better player. More chance of Richards being delisted then relisted than Biggs imo.

Sydney needs tall defenders. They already signed Richards on a two year deal midway through the season so they obviously rate him as a successor.

All of the rookies had very strong seasons (apart from American Mitchell who left) so Biggs was just unlucky. He's a good player.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: SydneyRox on October 16, 2014, 06:12:22 PM
yup, got to back MM on this one.

If Teddy or Grundy goes does, X Richards and Allir Allir are pretty much the only key defensive units on the list. Besides sending Reid down back.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: elephants on October 16, 2014, 06:15:31 PM
Yeah sure, but my point is, could you have kept both?

Oh well, hopefully Biggs excels at the Dogs. Too good for the NEAFL.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: SydneyRox on October 16, 2014, 06:40:49 PM
Quote from: elephants on October 16, 2014, 06:15:31 PM
Yeah sure, but my point is, could you have kept both?

Oh well, hopefully Biggs excels at the Dogs. Too good for the NEAFL.

If you believe the reports we couldnt have kept him, didnt have enough room in the salary cap to upgrade him to the main list?
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Tominator on October 16, 2014, 08:58:21 PM
Quote from: Jukes on October 16, 2014, 05:55:17 PM
Quote from: Tominator on October 16, 2014, 05:17:53 PM
Quote from: Grazz on October 16, 2014, 03:29:08 PM
Quote from: Jukes on October 16, 2014, 03:26:01 PM
Cooney, Giles, Gwilt, 17 and 62
for
Ryder and 53

I'd say that's a good trade period for us. Didn't see this "mass exodus" or "players not wanting to go to the dons" like some journalists and you guys have been saying

Yeh it certainly wasnt the doom and gloom the media predicted early, came out of it ok considering Ryder was going no matter what.

+1. Strengthened in depth and you're back in the first-round... come out of the trade window pretty well IMO

Already had pick 20? 17+20. Next pick is 62 though.

Ohh, thought you had sanctions which locked you out of the first-round. My bad
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: kilbluff1985 on October 16, 2014, 09:00:16 PM
pick 20 technically wasn't a 1st round pick it was a compensation pick
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Nige on October 16, 2014, 09:00:51 PM
Quote from: Tominator on October 16, 2014, 08:58:21 PM
Quote from: Jukes on October 16, 2014, 05:55:17 PM
Quote from: Tominator on October 16, 2014, 05:17:53 PM
Quote from: Grazz on October 16, 2014, 03:29:08 PM
Quote from: Jukes on October 16, 2014, 03:26:01 PM
Cooney, Giles, Gwilt, 17 and 62
for
Ryder and 53

I'd say that's a good trade period for us. Didn't see this "mass exodus" or "players not wanting to go to the dons" like some journalists and you guys have been saying

Yeh it certainly wasnt the doom and gloom the media predicted early, came out of it ok considering Ryder was going no matter what.

+1. Strengthened in depth and you're back in the first-round... come out of the trade window pretty well IMO

Already had pick 20? 17+20. Next pick is 62 though.

Ohh, thought you had sanctions which locked you out of the first-round. My bad
The sanction was moving their first rounder to the end of the round, not where it should have been on ladder position. So really, getting 17 was actually a pretty good result for the Bombers. 17 and 20 should be quite handy for them.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Mat0369 on October 17, 2014, 12:58:13 AM
Quote from: elephants on October 16, 2014, 02:27:19 PM
Is that a reference to Carlton's entire list? Or trading a late national pick for a young key forward? :P

At picking up Jones who is horrible
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: shaker on October 17, 2014, 09:32:59 AM
Well I think the trade period could be shortened quite a bit as usual most of the trades were done in the last 2 or 3 days one full week would get the same results
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Ricochet on October 17, 2014, 09:51:04 AM
Quote from: shaker on October 17, 2014, 09:32:59 AM
Well I think the trade period could be shortened quite a bit as usual most of the trades were done in the last 2 or 3 days one full week would get the same results
Have seen this comment a few times and in my opinion it has to stay at 2 weeks man. Clubs need that time to negotiate and get an idea to see what is available. Also a lot can change in 2 weeks. Look what happened to the Bullies with the coach,  Griffen and then Boyd. Then also a lot of trades affect other trades and a clubs position, so the early ones needed to be completed before others can be finalized. And lastly, the trade period isn't for the fans or media... It's for the clubs, and they need that period to all get together and thrash it out
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: kilbluff1985 on October 17, 2014, 09:52:35 AM
not to mention clubs like getting medicals done would be much harder if was only a week
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: shaker on October 17, 2014, 09:59:56 AM
Quote from: Ricochet on October 17, 2014, 09:51:04 AM
Quote from: shaker on October 17, 2014, 09:32:59 AM
Well I think the trade period could be shortened quite a bit as usual most of the trades were done in the last 2 or 3 days one full week would get the same results
Have seen this comment a few times and in my opinion it has to stay at 2 weeks man. Clubs need that time to negotiate and get an idea to see what is available. Also a lot can change in 2 weeks. Look what happened to the Bullies with the coach,  Griffen and then Boyd. Then also a lot of trades affect other trades and a clubs position, so the early ones needed to be completed before others can be finalized. And lastly, the trade period isn't for the fans or media... It's for the clubs, and they need that period to all get together and thrash it out

That shot my idea down in flames  :P fair comment .
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Dudge on October 17, 2014, 07:37:53 PM
Quote from: SydneyRox on October 16, 2014, 06:40:49 PM
Quote from: elephants on October 16, 2014, 06:15:31 PM
Yeah sure, but my point is, could you have kept both?

Oh well, hopefully Biggs excels at the Dogs. Too good for the NEAFL.

If you believe the reports we couldnt have kept him, didnt have enough room in the salary cap to upgrade him to the main list?

Not saying I believe the reports, but if true, is this the first sign of Buddy's ( tippet ) contracts? Malcestki ?
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Ricochet on October 17, 2014, 07:54:48 PM
Quote from: shaker on October 17, 2014, 09:59:56 AM
Quote from: Ricochet on October 17, 2014, 09:51:04 AM
Quote from: shaker on October 17, 2014, 09:32:59 AM
Well I think the trade period could be shortened quite a bit as usual most of the trades were done in the last 2 or 3 days one full week would get the same results
Have seen this comment a few times and in my opinion it has to stay at 2 weeks man. Clubs need that time to negotiate and get an idea to see what is available. Also a lot can change in 2 weeks. Look what happened to the Bullies with the coach,  Griffen and then Boyd. Then also a lot of trades affect other trades and a clubs position, so the early ones needed to be completed before others can be finalized. And lastly, the trade period isn't for the fans or media... It's for the clubs, and they need that period to all get together and thrash it out

That shot my idea down in flames  :P fair comment .
haha wasn't trying to shoot you down man!  Just a few reasons why clubs need the full period
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Nige on October 17, 2014, 08:04:52 PM
Mark Stevens has broken news of GWS' big time play for several players late during the 2014 trade period.

Stevens confirmed the Giants tabled pick 4 for New South Welshman, Hawthorn's Luke Breust, which stunned the Hawks.

They also made a pitch to Melbourne, offering pick 6 to Melbourne for Jeremy Howe, who they believed could become a marketing machine, however both clubs had little time to consider.

Stevens also confirmed that the Giants made a play for Geelong's Steve Johnson, however a bigger bid came for his teammate Steven Motlop.

The Giants also tabled pick 4 for Patrick Ryder.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Mr.Craig on October 17, 2014, 08:14:53 PM
Quote from: Dudge on October 17, 2014, 07:37:53 PM
Quote from: SydneyRox on October 16, 2014, 06:40:49 PM
Quote from: elephants on October 16, 2014, 06:15:31 PM
Yeah sure, but my point is, could you have kept both?

Oh well, hopefully Biggs excels at the Dogs. Too good for the NEAFL.

If you believe the reports we couldnt have kept him, didnt have enough room in the salary cap to upgrade him to the main list?

Not saying I believe the reports, but if true, is this the first sign of Buddy's ( tippet ) contracts? Malcestki ?

I think the first sign was Mumford and White going.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Mr.Craig on October 17, 2014, 08:17:03 PM
Quote from: Nige on October 17, 2014, 08:04:52 PM
Stevens confirmed the Giants tabled pick 4 for New South Welshman, Hawthorn's Luke Breust, which stunned the Hawks.

I'm certainly stunned. Not stunned we knocked it back though.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Big Mac on October 17, 2014, 08:55:27 PM
Quote from: Nige on October 17, 2014, 08:04:52 PM
They also made a pitch to Melbourne, offering pick 6 to Melbourne for Jeremy Howe, who they believed could become a marketing machine, however both clubs had little time to consider.

Honestly not sure if I would do that deal. Howe was pretty much the only reason why I went to games last year.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: meow meow on October 17, 2014, 09:09:02 PM
Herald Sun saying that Vic clubs have been told (probably by player managers) that Treloar and Tomlinson WILL be coming back to Melbourne next off season when their contracts are up.

Others out of contract next year include Cameron, Shiel, Coniglio, Greene, Buntine and Hoskin-Elliott.

FWIW Shiel and Treloar are both Carlton supports who are in love with Judd. I reckon one of them will be wearing his number 5 jumper in 2016.

Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: elephants on October 17, 2014, 09:14:30 PM
Coniglio pls come home
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: meow meow on October 17, 2014, 09:17:19 PM
Quote from: elephants on October 17, 2014, 09:14:30 PM
Coniglio pls come home

"Many of the GWS kids including Jon Patton, Josh Kelly and Lachie Whitfield are contracted long-term, with others like Tom Bugg and Stephen Coniglio happy at GWS."
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Vinny on October 17, 2014, 09:23:17 PM
Quote from: meow meow on October 17, 2014, 09:09:02 PM
FWIW Shiel and Treloar are both Carlton supports who are in love with Judd. I reckon one of them will be wearing his number 5 jumper in 2016.
Oh my flowering god. Yeessss please!
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: elephants on October 17, 2014, 09:24:37 PM
Quote from: meow meow on October 17, 2014, 09:17:19 PM
Quote from: elephants on October 17, 2014, 09:14:30 PM
Coniglio pls come home

"Many of the GWS kids including Jon Patton, Josh Kelly and Lachie Whitfield are contracted long-term, with others like Tom Bugg and Stephen Coniglio happy at GWS."

Happy but yet to sign a long term deal? (more hoping than anything else here..)
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Jroo on October 17, 2014, 09:27:42 PM
Nope, Shiel is coming to Richmond.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Nige on October 17, 2014, 09:32:53 PM
Quote from: JROO8 on October 17, 2014, 09:27:42 PM
Nope, Shiel is coming to Richmond.
Nah, flower that.

If Tomlinson and/or Treloar want to come back home... they can come to Punt Rd.  ;D
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Mat0369 on October 17, 2014, 09:36:47 PM
Chris Judd leads the Carlton recruiting division and will go around another season for the specific reason of getting Treloar and Shiel to Carlton
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: elephants on October 17, 2014, 09:38:02 PM
Quote from: Mat0369 on October 17, 2014, 09:36:47 PM
Chris Judd leads the Carlton recruiting division and will go around another season for the specific reason of getting Treloar and Shiel to Carlton

If Judd get you Treloar then the original Judd deal won't look so bad at all...
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Jroo on October 17, 2014, 09:54:11 PM
Quote from: Nige on October 17, 2014, 09:32:53 PM
Quote from: JROO8 on October 17, 2014, 09:27:42 PM
Nope, Shiel is coming to Richmond.
Nah, flower that.

If Tomlinson and/or Treloar want to come back home... they can come to Punt Rd.  ;D
I rate Tomlinson highly, but we need a gun mid before another key forward. I reckon I'd take Shiel over Treloar too :o
Shiel > any other GWS player
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Mat0369 on October 17, 2014, 09:54:56 PM
Quote from: elephants on October 17, 2014, 09:38:02 PM
If Judd get you Treloar then the original Judd deal won't look so bad at all...

Treloar's two idols, Judd and

(http://i.ytimg.com/vi/nZqEMXBWF_4/hqdefault.jpg)
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: TomK on October 17, 2014, 09:58:09 PM
Quote from: JROO8 on October 17, 2014, 09:54:11 PM
Quote from: Nige on October 17, 2014, 09:32:53 PM
Quote from: JROO8 on October 17, 2014, 09:27:42 PM
Nope, Shiel is coming to Richmond.
Nah, flower that.

If Tomlinson and/or Treloar want to come back home... they can come to Punt Rd.  ;D
I rate Tomlinson highly, but we need a gun mid before another key forward. I reckon I'd take Shiel over Treloar too :o
Shiel > any other GWS player
I think you would take Cameron no matter what.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Jroo on October 17, 2014, 09:59:11 PM
Quote from: TomK on October 17, 2014, 09:58:09 PM
Quote from: JROO8 on October 17, 2014, 09:54:11 PM
Quote from: Nige on October 17, 2014, 09:32:53 PM
Quote from: JROO8 on October 17, 2014, 09:27:42 PM
Nope, Shiel is coming to Richmond.
Nah, flower that.

If Tomlinson and/or Treloar want to come back home... they can come to Punt Rd.  ;D
I rate Tomlinson highly, but we need a gun mid before another key forward. I reckon I'd take Shiel over Treloar too :o
Shiel > any other GWS player
I think you would take Cameron no matter what.
No one mentioned Cameron?
We don't need him anyway, we've got Jroo.  :P
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Mr.Craig on October 17, 2014, 10:02:53 PM
They're all going to Hawthorn.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Mat0369 on October 17, 2014, 10:06:40 PM
I want Cameron
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Nige on October 17, 2014, 10:09:45 PM
Quote from: JROO8 on October 17, 2014, 09:54:11 PM
Quote from: Nige on October 17, 2014, 09:32:53 PM
Quote from: JROO8 on October 17, 2014, 09:27:42 PM
Nope, Shiel is coming to Richmond.
Nah, flower that.

If Tomlinson and/or Treloar want to come back home... they can come to Punt Rd.  ;D
I rate Tomlinson highly, but we need a gun mid before another key forward. I reckon I'd take Shiel over Treloar too :o
Shiel > any other GWS player
No pls. Treloar to the Tiggies.  :(
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Nige on October 17, 2014, 10:13:33 PM
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2014-10-16/no-direction-home
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: TomK on October 17, 2014, 10:14:17 PM
Quote from: JROO8 on October 17, 2014, 09:59:11 PM
Quote from: TomK on October 17, 2014, 09:58:09 PM
Quote from: JROO8 on October 17, 2014, 09:54:11 PM
Quote from: Nige on October 17, 2014, 09:32:53 PM
Quote from: JROO8 on October 17, 2014, 09:27:42 PM
Nope, Shiel is coming to Richmond.
Nah, flower that.

If Tomlinson and/or Treloar want to come back home... they can come to Punt Rd.  ;D
I rate Tomlinson highly, but we need a gun mid before another key forward. I reckon I'd take Shiel over Treloar too :o
Shiel > any other GWS player
I think you would take Cameron no matter what.
No one mentioned Cameron?
We don't need him anyway, we've got Jroo.  :P
Any other GWS player somewhat mentions Cameron  :P
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Jroo on October 17, 2014, 10:15:30 PM
Quote from: Nige on October 17, 2014, 10:09:45 PM
Quote from: JROO8 on October 17, 2014, 09:54:11 PM
Quote from: Nige on October 17, 2014, 09:32:53 PM
Quote from: JROO8 on October 17, 2014, 09:27:42 PM
Nope, Shiel is coming to Richmond.
Nah, flower that.

If Tomlinson and/or Treloar want to come back home... they can come to Punt Rd.  ;D
I rate Tomlinson highly, but we need a gun mid before another key forward. I reckon I'd take Shiel over Treloar too :o
Shiel > any other GWS player
No pls. Treloar to the Tiggies.  :(
(http://i1.kym-cdn.com/entries/icons/original/000/006/759/both.png)
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Nige on October 17, 2014, 10:16:46 PM
Quote from: JROO8 on October 17, 2014, 10:15:30 PM
Quote from: Nige on October 17, 2014, 10:09:45 PM
Quote from: JROO8 on October 17, 2014, 09:54:11 PM
Quote from: Nige on October 17, 2014, 09:32:53 PM
Quote from: JROO8 on October 17, 2014, 09:27:42 PM
Nope, Shiel is coming to Richmond.
Nah, flower that.

If Tomlinson and/or Treloar want to come back home... they can come to Punt Rd.  ;D
I rate Tomlinson highly, but we need a gun mid before another key forward. I reckon I'd take Shiel over Treloar too :o
Shiel > any other GWS player
No pls. Treloar to the Tiggies.  :(
(http://i1.kym-cdn.com/entries/icons/original/000/006/759/both.png)
Let's do it. And we'll take Scooter and Danger while we're at it.  ;)
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: elephants on October 17, 2014, 10:18:03 PM
Tomlinson isn't really a key fwd though. More a utility that can play HBF, Wing, HFF and possibly as a second/third tall. I rate.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Jroo on October 17, 2014, 10:19:30 PM
Quote from: elephants on October 17, 2014, 10:18:03 PM
Tomlinson isn't really a key fwd though. More a utility that can play HBF, Wing, HFF and possibly as a second/third tall. I rate.
Haha yeah he can pretty much play anywhere. I rate him highly too, I'd just rather Shiel  ;)

Haha Nige, anyone else we should take?
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Bill Manspeaker on October 18, 2014, 12:31:18 AM
Shiel and Tomlinson are comin to the Saints. like that dog said in the Waterboy "that ain't no guess. that's what it's gonna be" or whatever she said

DON'T DOUBT. I WILL FIND YOY
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Toga on October 18, 2014, 03:23:23 AM
Quote from: JROO8 on October 17, 2014, 09:27:42 PM
Shiel is coming to Richmond.

8)
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Justin Bieber on October 18, 2014, 12:40:20 PM
Dylan Shiel :)
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Dudge on October 18, 2014, 05:23:47 PM
Quote from: Nige on October 17, 2014, 10:16:46 PM
Quote from: JROO8 on October 17, 2014, 10:15:30 PM
Quote from: Nige on October 17, 2014, 10:09:45 PM
Quote from: JROO8 on October 17, 2014, 09:54:11 PM
Quote from: Nige on October 17, 2014, 09:32:53 PM
Quote from: JROO8 on October 17, 2014, 09:27:42 PM
Nope, Shiel is coming to Richmond.
Nah, flower that.

If Tomlinson and/or Treloar want to come back home... they can come to Punt Rd.  ;D
I rate Tomlinson highly, but we need a gun mid before another key forward. I reckon I'd take Shiel over Treloar too :o
Shiel > any other GWS player
No pls. Treloar to the Tiggies.  :(
(http://i1.kym-cdn.com/entries/icons/original/000/006/759/both.png)
Let's do it. And we'll take Scooter and Danger while we're at it.  ;)

And you still won't win a final ;)
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Nige on October 18, 2014, 06:28:13 PM
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2014-10-18/the-next-crop-of-free-agents
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: roo boys! on October 18, 2014, 06:37:46 PM
Bloody hell, how long ago did trade period end? A couple days and we're already into next year's rumours. Too many rumours and too much speculation for me!
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Dudge on October 18, 2014, 06:52:45 PM
No one was sure, 5 minutes before this trade period, how's anyone got any idea in 12 months lol
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: WCarey18 on October 18, 2014, 06:55:31 PM
Quote from: roo boys! on October 18, 2014, 06:37:46 PM
Bloody hell, how long ago did trade period end? A couple days and we're already into next year's rumours. Too many rumours and too much speculation for me!

It's rumoured Oscar Judd will be offered $20 million over 15 years upon drafting.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Mat0369 on October 18, 2014, 06:58:38 PM
He is worth more then that.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: nas on October 18, 2014, 07:04:13 PM
Quote from: WCarey18 on October 18, 2014, 06:55:31 PM
Quote from: roo boys! on October 18, 2014, 06:37:46 PM
Bloody hell, how long ago did trade period end? A couple days and we're already into next year's rumours. Too many rumours and too much speculation for me!

It's rumoured Oscar Judd will be offered $20 million over 15 years upon drafting.

WCE have upped the ante $25 million over 18 years Making him a 1 club player?
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Vinny on October 18, 2014, 07:22:59 PM
Oscar Judd will be the greatest player of all time. He will shower on every supposed great of the past.

5 brownlows, AA in every year he plays. In his latter years, he will go forward and win a few Coleman medals.

The AFL will make a new rule that those named Oscar Judd are eligible to play AFL at age 15 due to insane ability.

Those who want to witness the greatness will not only have to pay game admission fees but also the Oscar Judd Observation fee.

In the off-season, he won't even need to train but instead will captain the Australian Cricket Team where he will average more than Sir Don Bradman.

Brace yourself cows, he is coming.

(https://c1.staticflickr.com/9/8352/8305545608_162b9e950f_z.jpg)

Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: WCarey18 on October 18, 2014, 07:24:04 PM
Quote from: nas on October 18, 2014, 07:04:13 PM
Quote from: WCarey18 on October 18, 2014, 06:55:31 PM
Quote from: roo boys! on October 18, 2014, 06:37:46 PM
Bloody hell, how long ago did trade period end? A couple days and we're already into next year's rumours. Too many rumours and too much speculation for me!

It's rumoured Oscar Judd will be offered $20 million over 15 years upon drafting.

WCE have upped the ante $25 million over 18 years Making him a 1 club player?

Carlton will offer $27 million, with $2 million seized by the AFL for "tanking" in order to obtain the higher draft pick to use in Father-Son bidding against West Coast.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Toga on October 18, 2014, 07:25:06 PM
Next thing we know Oscar nominates West Coast as his club of choice :P
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Vinny on October 18, 2014, 07:26:21 PM
Quote from: Toga on October 18, 2014, 07:25:06 PM
Next thing we know Oscar nominates West Coast as his club of choice :P
Future Vin will cry.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Toga on October 18, 2014, 07:26:57 PM
Quote from: Vinny on October 18, 2014, 07:26:21 PM
Quote from: Toga on October 18, 2014, 07:25:06 PM
Next thing we know Oscar nominates West Coast as his club of choice :P
Future Vin will cry.

Haha!  ;)
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Nige on October 18, 2014, 07:30:45 PM
Quote from: Dudge on October 18, 2014, 05:23:47 PM
And you still won't win a final ;)
Wow, low blow. I suppose it's incredibly easy to be on your high horse as a Port supporter though.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: elephants on October 18, 2014, 07:34:12 PM
Would absolutely lol if O.Judd actually hated footy and wanted to play cricket for Australia... Or he chucks a Kyle Martin and plays with Noble Falls while plumbing.

Although if he wanted to play with shower all day, he might as well go to the Blues.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Nige on October 18, 2014, 07:42:07 PM
Quote from: elephants on October 18, 2014, 07:34:12 PM
Noble Falls
Made my day, that's gold.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: kilbluff1985 on October 18, 2014, 07:47:25 PM
Quote from: nas on October 18, 2014, 07:04:13 PM
Quote from: WCarey18 on October 18, 2014, 06:55:31 PM
Quote from: roo boys! on October 18, 2014, 06:37:46 PM
Bloody hell, how long ago did trade period end? A couple days and we're already into next year's rumours. Too many rumours and too much speculation for me!

It's rumoured Oscar Judd will be offered $20 million over 15 years upon drafting.

WCE have upped the ante $25 million over 18 years Making him a 1 club player?

Sydney will offer 50million over 50 years
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Mailman the 2nd on October 18, 2014, 08:00:04 PM
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on October 18, 2014, 07:47:25 PM
Quote from: nas on October 18, 2014, 07:04:13 PM
Quote from: WCarey18 on October 18, 2014, 06:55:31 PM
Quote from: roo boys! on October 18, 2014, 06:37:46 PM
Bloody hell, how long ago did trade period end? A couple days and we're already into next year's rumours. Too many rumours and too much speculation for me!

It's rumoured Oscar Judd will be offered $20 million over 15 years upon drafting.

WCE have upped the ante $25 million over 18 years Making him a 1 club player?

Sydney will offer 50million over 50 years

And Essendon will offer 50 million peptides over 5 years
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Dudge on October 18, 2014, 08:21:31 PM
Quote from: Nige on October 18, 2014, 07:30:45 PM
Quote from: Dudge on October 18, 2014, 05:23:47 PM
And you still won't win a final ;)
Wow, low blow. I suppose it's incredibly easy to be on your high horse as a Port supporter though.

There is a  ;) Nige, I better throw a  :P in just in case you Black and Yella Fella's torture Grazz to get my  place of abode. Mind you I live in a very poor part of Adelaide, so my neighbours leave me alone, and would probably sort out the  uninvited guest rather than me. :)
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Toga on October 18, 2014, 08:28:12 PM
Quote from: elephants on October 18, 2014, 07:34:12 PM
Although if he wanted to play with shower all day, he might as well go to the Blues.

;D
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Ricochet on October 19, 2014, 11:58:08 AM
Quote from: Toga on October 18, 2014, 08:28:12 PM
Quote from: elephants on October 18, 2014, 07:34:12 PM
Although if he wanted to play with shower all day, he might as well go to the Blues.

;D
haha gold
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Justin Bieber on October 20, 2014, 02:04:39 AM
Omg just remembered something I was told Friday night and am guaranteed this information is. Mitch Robinson has signed for a local footy in team Brisbane. Actually the same team Bradie from the recruit is from.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Mr.Craig on October 20, 2014, 02:18:15 AM
Quote from: whatlez on October 20, 2014, 02:04:39 AM
Omg just remembered something I was told Friday night and am guaranteed this information is. Mitch Robinson has signed for a local footy in team Brisbane. Actually the same team Bradie from the recruit is from.

I'll believe that when I see it. Might be something he'll fall back on if other opportunities don't eventuate but if that's his Plan A then he really is as stupid as we all think.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Justin Bieber on October 20, 2014, 11:22:15 AM
Quote from: Mr.Craig on October 20, 2014, 02:18:15 AM
Quote from: whatlez on October 20, 2014, 02:04:39 AM
Omg just remembered something I was told Friday night and am guaranteed this information is. Mitch Robinson has signed for a local footy in team Brisbane. Actually the same team Bradie from the recruit is from.

I'll believe that when I see it. Might be something he'll fall back on if other opportunities don't eventuate but if that's his Plan A then he really is as stupid as we all think.

Exactly my thinking.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Tominator on October 20, 2014, 03:42:27 PM
Quote from: Mr.Craig on October 20, 2014, 02:18:15 AM
Quote from: whatlez on October 20, 2014, 02:04:39 AM
Omg just remembered something I was told Friday night and am guaranteed this information is. Mitch Robinson has signed for a local footy in team Brisbane. Actually the same team Bradie from the recruit is from.

I'll believe that when I see it. Might be something he'll fall back on if other opportunities don't eventuate but if that's his Plan A then he really is as stupid as we all think.

Agreed ^

By a local team do you mean amateur league or a NEAFL club?
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Ricochet on October 20, 2014, 03:43:28 PM
His manager might have already sussed out all the clubs to and got no nibbles. He should know by now if there is any geniune interest for a preseason draft pickup
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: elephants on October 20, 2014, 03:47:31 PM
Will be shocked if hes not playing AFL next season :s
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Mat0369 on October 20, 2014, 03:50:16 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on October 20, 2014, 03:43:28 PM
His manager might have already sussed out all the clubs to and got no nibbles. He should know by now if there is any geniune interest for a preseason draft pickup

De-listed free agent. That is how the Swans got Laidler last year. Also I doubt he goes to play local footy in Queensland if he has a missus and kid in Melbourne. If he goes anywhere (to not play AFL), it is back to Tassie.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Ricochet on October 20, 2014, 03:51:18 PM
Quote from: Mat0369 on October 20, 2014, 03:50:16 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on October 20, 2014, 03:43:28 PM
His manager might have already sussed out all the clubs to and got no nibbles. He should know by now if there is any geniune interest for a preseason draft pickup

De-listed free agent. That is how the Swans got Laidler last year. Also I doubt he goes to play local footy in Queensland if he has a missus and kid in Melbourne. If he goes anywhere (to not play AFL), it is back to Tassie.
Wait a sec... He has a missus??
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Mat0369 on October 20, 2014, 03:57:34 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on October 20, 2014, 03:51:18 PM
Wait a sec... He has a missus??

She designed Carlton's indigenous jumper this year. They have been together a while, they had a son I think at the start of the year
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Noz on October 20, 2014, 05:02:57 PM
Quote from: Mat0369 on October 20, 2014, 03:57:34 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on October 20, 2014, 03:51:18 PM
Wait a sec... He has a missus??

She designed Carlton's indigenous jumper this year. They have been together a while, they had a son I think at the start of the year

Nah you're getting a bit confused, Every club imports these programs where community workers help players with a really low IQ out.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Justin Bieber on October 20, 2014, 05:30:05 PM
Well I'm taking this guys word on it. And the league is below the NEAFL so I dunno if it will be true.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Toga on October 20, 2014, 05:36:06 PM
Would've thought a VFL/other state league club would give him a shot :-X
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Jukes on October 20, 2014, 06:28:45 PM
I'd welcome Robbo at Claremont every day of the week!
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Nige on October 20, 2014, 09:16:21 PM
So yeah, Taylor Hunt has been told he will delisted.

Pick him up as a delisted FA, Richmond!
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: elephants on October 20, 2014, 09:22:45 PM
Quote from: whatlez on October 20, 2014, 05:30:05 PM
Well I'm taking this guys word on it. And the league is below the NEAFL so I dunno if it will be true.

I didn't know there was anything below NEAFL?
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Big Mac on October 20, 2014, 09:23:56 PM
Quote from: elephants on October 20, 2014, 09:22:45 PM
Quote from: whatlez on October 20, 2014, 05:30:05 PM
Well I'm taking this guys word on it. And the league is below the NEAFL so I dunno if it will be true.

I didn't know there was anything below NEAFL?

;D
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: GoLions on October 20, 2014, 09:28:56 PM
Quote from: elephants on October 20, 2014, 09:22:45 PM
Quote from: whatlez on October 20, 2014, 05:30:05 PM
Well I'm taking this guys word on it. And the league is below the NEAFL so I dunno if it will be true.

I didn't know there was anything below NEAFL?
Auskick, just
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Ringo on October 20, 2014, 10:17:14 PM
Quote from: elephants on October 20, 2014, 09:22:45 PM
Quote from: whatlez on October 20, 2014, 05:30:05 PM
Well I'm taking this guys word on it. And the league is below the NEAFL so I dunno if it will be true.

I didn't know there was anything below NEAFL?
There is the Queensland Australian Football League for competition from teams within South East Queensland competing.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Nige on October 21, 2014, 10:35:05 AM
The Age reckons Robbo will become a Lion.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: T Dog on October 21, 2014, 10:41:51 AM
Quote from: Nige on October 21, 2014, 10:35:05 AM
The Age reckons Robbo will become a Lion.

Well about time something risky happens to them this trade period.. ;D
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Nige on October 21, 2014, 10:46:07 AM
I just hope for their sake it doesn't end up like last time they got an ex-Carlton player.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: kilbluff1985 on October 21, 2014, 10:50:37 AM
Quote from: Nige on October 21, 2014, 10:46:07 AM
I just hope for their sake it doesn't end up like last time they got an ex-Carlton player.

They get him for nothing not much risk
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Toga on October 21, 2014, 10:55:32 AM
Yeah they might as well go for it, they won't be giving him a contract like Fev attracted so very little risk involved
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Mr.Craig on October 21, 2014, 11:32:04 AM
You would think once bitten twice shy.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Ringo on October 21, 2014, 11:39:18 AM
Do we need him - Probably not at 185cm not that tall target forward we would be looking for. With the quality mids and the small forwards we have can not see the need.  Bewick and Mayes the only ones of similar size who he would compete with.

http://www.theage.com.au/afl/afl-news/carltons-robinson-likely-to-be-a-lion-20141020-118y63.html
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Noz on October 21, 2014, 12:43:03 PM
Chris Pelchan has quit the Saints after a review
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Bill Manspeaker on October 21, 2014, 12:46:15 PM
Quote from: Noz on October 21, 2014, 12:43:03 PM
Chris Pelchan has quit the Saints after a review

that sucks so much

http://www.theage.com.au/afl/afl-news/chris-pelchen-resigns-at-st-kilda-after-football-department-review-20141021-1197sc.html
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Pkbaldy on October 21, 2014, 12:57:35 PM
Quote from: Noz on October 21, 2014, 12:43:03 PM
Chris Pelchan has quit the Saints after a review

Wow can't believe this! He seemed like was in for the long haul after all the things he was saying on the Trade Talk radio.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Ricochet on October 21, 2014, 05:25:42 PM
lol whack

(http://i60.tinypic.com/nlo6sn.png)
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Ricochet on October 21, 2014, 05:56:13 PM
Carlton has delisted Mitch Robinson, Brock McLean and Kane Lucas.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Noz on October 21, 2014, 06:21:13 PM
Geelong have also delisted Taylor Hunt, Mitch Brown and someone else can't remember his name
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Jroo on October 21, 2014, 06:22:05 PM
Quote from: Noz on October 21, 2014, 06:21:13 PM
Geelong have also delisted Taylor Hunt, Mitch Brown and someone else can't remember his name
Joel Hamling
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Nige on October 21, 2014, 08:10:31 PM
Pelchen gone is huge... wowee.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: elephants on October 21, 2014, 08:45:12 PM
Pick up Lucas pls WCE
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Noz on October 21, 2014, 08:45:29 PM
Why do people think Hunt will get another go at AFL level the guy is a hack.

He was a tagger who could never tag.
Could never get his own ball and when he does he butchers it
Too slow.

Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: JBs-Hawks on October 21, 2014, 08:50:23 PM
Too slow? He is quick. Played good footy when he was running  of half back.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Noz on October 21, 2014, 08:52:28 PM
Apart from the kicking and handball aspect he played great footy
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Jukes on October 21, 2014, 09:59:49 PM
GAJ goals after siren: 0
KHunt goals after siren: 1
In 6 times less games too...#Elite
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: kilbluff1985 on October 21, 2014, 10:03:47 PM
Quote from: Jukes on October 21, 2014, 09:59:49 PM
GAJ goals after siren: 0
KHunt goals after siren: 1
In 6 times less games too...#Elite

just lol
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Grazz on October 21, 2014, 10:05:20 PM
Quote from: Jukes on October 21, 2014, 09:59:49 PM
GAJ goals after siren: 0
KHunt goals after siren: 1
In 6 times less games too...#Elite

and, i presume there is a point to this or just a bit more shower you are throwing Gazza's way. (http://i1143.photobucket.com/albums/n624/Grazz64/e8125b5ex50_zps6ece5d08.gif) (http://s1143.photobucket.com/user/Grazz64/media/e8125b5ex50_zps6ece5d08.gif.html)
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: GoLions on October 21, 2014, 10:12:04 PM
Lighten up guys hahaha
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Jukes on October 21, 2014, 10:38:58 PM
Quote from: Grazz on October 21, 2014, 10:05:20 PM
Quote from: Jukes on October 21, 2014, 09:59:49 PM
GAJ goals after siren: 0
KHunt goals after siren: 1
In 6 times less games too...#Elite

and, i presume there is a point to this or just a bit more shower you are throwing Gazza's way. (http://i1143.photobucket.com/albums/n624/Grazz64/e8125b5ex50_zps6ece5d08.gif) (http://s1143.photobucket.com/user/Grazz64/media/e8125b5ex50_zps6ece5d08.gif.html)

Just pointing out that the stat points to Hunt being an infinitely better footballer than GAJ.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Grazz on October 21, 2014, 11:12:26 PM
Haha im not biting mate, i know you are an intelligent fella ive seen you in action on Trivia Night. I reckon your fishing for a bite.(http://i1143.photobucket.com/albums/n624/Grazz64/fishing.gif) (http://s1143.photobucket.com/user/Grazz64/media/fishing.gif.html)
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Noz on October 21, 2014, 11:35:20 PM
Quote from: Jukes on October 21, 2014, 10:38:58 PM
Quote from: Grazz on October 21, 2014, 10:05:20 PM
Quote from: Jukes on October 21, 2014, 09:59:49 PM
GAJ goals after siren: 0
KHunt goals after siren: 1
In 6 times less games too...#Elite

and, i presume there is a point to this or just a bit more shower you are throwing Gazza's way. (http://i1143.photobucket.com/albums/n624/Grazz64/e8125b5ex50_zps6ece5d08.gif) (http://s1143.photobucket.com/user/Grazz64/media/e8125b5ex50_zps6ece5d08.gif.html)

Just pointing out that the stat points to Hunt being an infinitely better footballer than GAJ.

Yeah if this was K Hunt you would have a point.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: henry on October 22, 2014, 12:43:58 AM
Quote from: Noz on October 21, 2014, 11:35:20 PM
Quote from: Jukes on October 21, 2014, 10:38:58 PM
Quote from: Grazz on October 21, 2014, 10:05:20 PM
Quote from: Jukes on October 21, 2014, 09:59:49 PM
GAJ goals after siren: 0
KHunt goals after siren: 1
In 6 times less games too...#Elite

and, i presume there is a point to this or just a bit more shower you are throwing Gazza's way. (http://i1143.photobucket.com/albums/n624/Grazz64/e8125b5ex50_zps6ece5d08.gif) (http://s1143.photobucket.com/user/Grazz64/media/e8125b5ex50_zps6ece5d08.gif.html)

Just pointing out that the stat points to Hunt being an infinitely better footballer than GAJ.

Yeah if this was K Hunt you would have a point.
Yeah we were talking about Taylor...
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Mr.Craig on October 22, 2014, 01:01:30 AM
Wait...I thought this was about Rex Hunt? ???
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: nas on October 22, 2014, 07:22:39 AM
I thought it was Grazz alias "Mike Hunt"
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Ricochet on October 22, 2014, 02:08:18 PM
Leroy Jetta, Kyle Hardingham, Sean Gregory and Johnny Rayner delisted by the Bombers
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Grazz on October 22, 2014, 02:11:21 PM
Quote from: nas on October 22, 2014, 07:22:39 AM
I thought it was Grazz alias "Mike Hunt"

You rubbing me the wrong way.  :P
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: SydneyRox on October 22, 2014, 02:14:16 PM
Quote from: Grazz on October 22, 2014, 02:11:21 PM
Quote from: nas on October 22, 2014, 07:22:39 AM
I thought it was Grazz alias "Mike Hunt"

You rubbing me the wrong way.  :P

I tend to find if the right person is rubbing me, there is never a bad way.  8)
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: elephants on October 22, 2014, 02:21:57 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on October 22, 2014, 02:08:18 PM
Kyle Hardingham

Might be a good get for the Dockers I reckon
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Grazz on October 22, 2014, 02:22:52 PM
Quote from: SydneyRox on October 22, 2014, 02:14:16 PM
Quote from: Grazz on October 22, 2014, 02:11:21 PM
Quote from: nas on October 22, 2014, 07:22:39 AM
I thought it was Grazz alias "Mike Hunt"

You rubbing me the wrong way.  :P

I tend to find if the right person is rubbing me, there is never a bad way.  8)

The key word in that mate is "right".  ;)
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Ricochet on October 22, 2014, 02:24:04 PM
Quote from: elephants on October 22, 2014, 02:21:57 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on October 22, 2014, 02:08:18 PM
Kyle Hardingham

Might be a good get for the Dockers I reckon
Yeh he and Jetta asked to be delisted to seek opportunites elsewhere. Wouldn't mind if Freo picked him up for nothing
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: elephants on October 22, 2014, 02:30:25 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on October 22, 2014, 02:24:04 PM
Quote from: elephants on October 22, 2014, 02:21:57 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on October 22, 2014, 02:08:18 PM
Kyle Hardingham

Might be a good get for the Dockers I reckon
Yeh he and Jetta asked to be delisted to seek opportunites elsewhere. Wouldn't mind if Freo picked him up for nothing

Yep, similar situation to how I feel about Kane Lucas and WCE
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Jukes on October 22, 2014, 02:31:14 PM
Rayner was an experiment, not surprising that he failed.
Gregory was never going to get a game
Jetta and Hardingham both super spuds
No surprises
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: kilbluff1985 on October 22, 2014, 02:32:08 PM
Lol Jetta was being delisted anyway such a spud
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: elephants on October 22, 2014, 02:33:37 PM
Spuds calling spuds spuds ey? #bants
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Pkbaldy on October 22, 2014, 03:22:28 PM
Quote from: elephants on October 22, 2014, 02:33:37 PM
Spuds calling spuds spuds ey? #bants

McGovern is a potato!!
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: LF on October 22, 2014, 03:29:06 PM
Quote from: Pkbaldy on October 22, 2014, 03:22:28 PM
Quote from: elephants on October 22, 2014, 02:33:37 PM
Spuds calling spuds spuds ey? #bants

McGovern is a potato!!

Oi wash your mouth out :P

Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Samsturmfels on October 22, 2014, 05:23:00 PM
Hardingham to the pies??
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Mailman the 2nd on October 22, 2014, 08:05:47 PM
Quote from: Samsturmfels on October 22, 2014, 05:23:00 PM
Hardingham to the pies??

Another sub 190cm player to Collingwood? Might as well lock it in
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: T Dog on October 22, 2014, 08:12:29 PM
No...No...Nooooooo >:(
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: _wato on October 22, 2014, 10:18:28 PM
Quote from: T Dog on October 22, 2014, 08:12:29 PM
No...No...Nooooooo >:(
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: The_Captain on October 23, 2014, 12:58:05 PM
Quote from: elephants on October 21, 2014, 08:45:12 PM
Pick up Lucas pls WCE

To Boost Eeast perths chances of a gf? lol.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: elephants on October 23, 2014, 01:00:23 PM
Quote from: noto07 on October 23, 2014, 12:58:05 PM
Quote from: elephants on October 21, 2014, 08:45:12 PM
Pick up Lucas pls WCE
To Boost Eeast perths chances of a gf? lol.

Haha noto pls, a player with heaps of potential for free, we'd be silly not to strongly strongly consider it :P
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Pkbaldy on October 23, 2014, 01:18:49 PM
Quote from: elephants on October 23, 2014, 01:00:23 PM
Quote from: noto07 on October 23, 2014, 12:58:05 PM
Quote from: elephants on October 21, 2014, 08:45:12 PM
Pick up Lucas pls WCE
To Boost Eeast perths chances of a gf? lol.

Haha noto pls, a player with heaps of potential for free, we'd be silly not to strongly strongly consider it :P

And what is this potential that you speak of? Never seen it in him yet  :P
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Justin Bieber on October 23, 2014, 01:19:59 PM
Raines to GC??
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: elephants on October 23, 2014, 01:22:00 PM
Quote from: Pkbaldy on October 23, 2014, 01:18:49 PM
Quote from: elephants on October 23, 2014, 01:00:23 PM
Quote from: noto07 on October 23, 2014, 12:58:05 PM
Quote from: elephants on October 21, 2014, 08:45:12 PM
Pick up Lucas pls WCE
To Boost Eeast perths chances of a gf? lol.

Haha noto pls, a player with heaps of potential for free, we'd be silly not to strongly strongly consider it :P

And what is this potential that you speak of? Never seen it in him yet  :P

Haha, fair enough. Made the u/18 AA team, high draft pick, etc. Worth a punt :P
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Pkbaldy on October 23, 2014, 01:22:56 PM
Quote from: whatlez on October 23, 2014, 01:19:59 PM
Raines to GC??

Seems like a chance. Just don't know why they would even want or need him... Just to give the poor guy a job or something?

Quote from: elephants on October 23, 2014, 01:22:00 PM
Quote from: Pkbaldy on October 23, 2014, 01:18:49 PM
Quote from: elephants on October 23, 2014, 01:00:23 PM
Quote from: noto07 on October 23, 2014, 12:58:05 PM
Quote from: elephants on October 21, 2014, 08:45:12 PM
Pick up Lucas pls WCE
To Boost Eeast perths chances of a gf? lol.

Haha noto pls, a player with heaps of potential for free, we'd be silly not to strongly strongly consider it :P

And what is this potential that you speak of? Never seen it in him yet  :P

Haha, fair enough. Made the u/18 AA team, high draft pick, etc. Worth a punt :P

Didn't Cale Morton do the same thing?  :P

But as proven, new clubs can change a man. Happened to my boy Farren Ray. Pretty average at the Doggies for a top pick, came to the Saints and have been playing pretty well ever since!
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Justin Bieber on October 23, 2014, 01:26:42 PM
Raines can really help the reserves. With no depth and not winning the game, hid experience could be good for the youngsters.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Ringo on October 23, 2014, 02:05:56 PM
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2014-10-23/blease-may-please-cats

Looks like the cats are interested in Blease to replace Varcoe.

agree on Raines Les did the same with Lions NEAFL team this year.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Mr.Craig on October 23, 2014, 02:07:24 PM
Quote from: Ringo on October 23, 2014, 02:05:56 PM
Blease to replace Varcoe.

Like for like. :P

Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Mat0369 on October 23, 2014, 02:20:56 PM
Lucas is horrible, take it from a Carlton supporter. The dude is maybe VFL standard. There is no use for an outside player that can't kick in the AFL
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Ricochet on October 23, 2014, 02:23:30 PM
Melbourne delist defender Alex Georgiou but upgrade Neville Jetta back onto senior list. James Harmes and Max King retained as rookies
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Mr.Craig on October 23, 2014, 02:35:54 PM
Yeah, Georgiou struggled.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Dudge on October 23, 2014, 04:36:40 PM
Sat on my bench for all of the FF season  >:(
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Grazz on October 23, 2014, 05:41:55 PM
Quote from: Dudge on October 23, 2014, 04:36:40 PM
Sat on my bench for all of the FF season  >:(

You weren't alone, kept a spot warm on mine to.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: tbagrocks on October 23, 2014, 05:49:32 PM
Man I really hope we sign Robbo, please God please?
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Ringo on October 23, 2014, 06:45:47 PM
I hope so Tbag - We do not need him at Lions although reported we may draft him.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: elephants on October 23, 2014, 06:54:22 PM
Would take him/10
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: SydneyRox on October 24, 2014, 01:27:50 PM
I found this pretty amusing - How to survive the AFL off season.

http://www.sportsfan.com.au/how-to-survive-the-afl-off-season/tabid/91/newsid/146419/default.aspx

Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Mr.Craig on October 24, 2014, 02:32:44 PM
Quote from: SydneyRox on October 24, 2014, 01:27:50 PM
I found this pretty amusing - How to survive the AFL off season.

http://www.sportsfan.com.au/how-to-survive-the-afl-off-season/tabid/91/newsid/146419/default.aspx

3. Start an argument on Big Footy

It's easy. Once you've signed up, head on over to the main board and create a new thread. Use any of the following templates:

- [Player x] is the most overrated [position] in the AFL
- Is it time to fold [battling Victorian club]?
- [Top four club] won't make the eight in 2015
- [Bottom 10 club] will win the flag in 2015
- How long until [insert coach] is sacked?

So true... ;D
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Nige on October 24, 2014, 02:36:12 PM
Quote from: Mr.Craig on October 24, 2014, 02:32:44 PM
Quote from: SydneyRox on October 24, 2014, 01:27:50 PM
I found this pretty amusing - How to survive the AFL off season.

http://www.sportsfan.com.au/how-to-survive-the-afl-off-season/tabid/91/newsid/146419/default.aspx

3. Start an argument on Big Footy

It's easy. Once you've signed up, head on over to the main board and create a new thread. Use any of the following templates:

- [Player x] is the most overrated [position] in the AFL
- Is it time to fold [battling Victorian club]?
- [Top four club] won't make the eight in 2015
- [Bottom 10 club] will win the flag in 2015
- How long until [insert coach] is sacked?

So true... ;D
That's actually hilariously accurate.  :o 8)
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Grazz on October 24, 2014, 02:37:29 PM
Dudge is good at it also haha.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Ricochet on October 24, 2014, 03:36:24 PM
Sam Edmund saying Carlton are going to grab delisted free agent Matthew Dick
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: SydneyRox on October 24, 2014, 03:37:26 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on October 24, 2014, 03:36:24 PM
Sam Edmund saying Carlton are going to grab delisted free agent Matthew Dick

Wouldnt surprise me. Good young kid, had some good Neafl games this year. Great pace.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Ricochet on October 24, 2014, 03:37:44 PM
Quote from: SydneyRox on October 24, 2014, 03:37:26 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on October 24, 2014, 03:36:24 PM
Sam Edmund saying Carlton are going to grab delisted free agent Matthew Dick

Wouldnt surprise me. Good young kid, had some good Neafl games this year. Great pace.
What kind of role does he play mate?
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Nige on October 24, 2014, 03:50:42 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on October 24, 2014, 03:37:44 PM
Quote from: SydneyRox on October 24, 2014, 03:37:26 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on October 24, 2014, 03:36:24 PM
Sam Edmund saying Carlton are going to grab delisted free agent Matthew Dick

Wouldnt surprise me. Good young kid, had some good Neafl games this year. Great pace.
What kind of role does he play mate?
I think he's a half-back kinda player from memory.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Mailman the 2nd on October 24, 2014, 03:52:32 PM
Evidently they see something in him so good luck
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Noz on October 24, 2014, 04:03:44 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on October 24, 2014, 03:36:24 PM
Sam Edmund saying Carlton are going to grab delisted free agent Matthew Dick

Out Robinson in Dick

Really getting rid of one Dick to bring in another.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Noz on October 24, 2014, 06:10:18 PM
Ben Newton has walked out on Port.

Goodbye world
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Dudge on October 24, 2014, 09:13:44 PM
Quote from: Mr.Craig on October 24, 2014, 02:32:44 PM
Quote from: SydneyRox on October 24, 2014, 01:27:50 PM
I found this pretty amusing - How to survive the AFL off season.

http://www.sportsfan.com.au/how-to-survive-the-afl-off-season/tabid/91/newsid/146419/default.aspx

3. Start an argument on Big Footy

It's easy. Once you've signed up, head on over to the main board and create a new thread. Use any of the following templates:

- [Player x] is the most overrated [position] in the AFL
- Is it time to fold [battling Victorian club]?
- [Top four club] won't make the eight in 2015
- [Bottom 10 club] will win the flag in 2015
- How long until [insert coach] is sacked?

So true... ;D

Quote from: Grazz on October 24, 2014, 02:37:29 PM
Dudge is good at it also haha.

Ooh yeah, nothing like a  good biff on Big Footy ;D
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Grazz on October 24, 2014, 10:26:49 PM
Quote from: Dudge on October 24, 2014, 09:13:44 PM
Quote from: Mr.Craig on October 24, 2014, 02:32:44 PM
Quote from: SydneyRox on October 24, 2014, 01:27:50 PM
I found this pretty amusing - How to survive the AFL off season.

http://www.sportsfan.com.au/how-to-survive-the-afl-off-season/tabid/91/newsid/146419/default.aspx

3. Start an argument on Big Footy

It's easy. Once you've signed up, head on over to the main board and create a new thread. Use any of the following templates:

- [Player x] is the most overrated [position] in the AFL
- Is it time to fold [battling Victorian club]?
- [Top four club] won't make the eight in 2015
- [Bottom 10 club] will win the flag in 2015
- How long until [insert coach] is sacked?

So true... ;D

Quote from: Grazz on October 24, 2014, 02:37:29 PM
Dudge is good at it also haha.

Ooh yeah, nothing like a  good biff on Big Footy ;D
That place has alot of, :P well you know.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Nige on October 24, 2014, 10:35:06 PM
Port Adelaide have upgraded Kane Mitchell to its senior list and Brendon Ah Chee has signed a contract extension.

Lewis Stevenson has been told his services are no longer required, Tom Logan has been delisted but will likely be taken in the Rookie Draft by the Power.

Ben Newton opted against accepting a new contract and will try his luck in the draft.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Big Mac on October 24, 2014, 10:37:53 PM
Quote from: Nige on October 24, 2014, 10:35:06 PM
Ben Newton opted against accepting a new contract and will try his luck in the draft.

Should attract some interest
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Bill Manspeaker on October 24, 2014, 10:40:12 PM
might wanna join Alan Richardson in his rebuild? never watched Newton play (from memory) so I'm not sure if he'd be a good pick up or not
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Pkbaldy on October 24, 2014, 10:51:48 PM
Quote from: brad on October 24, 2014, 10:40:12 PM
might wanna join Alan Richardson in his rebuild? never watched Newton play (from memory) so I'm not sure if he'd be a good pick up or not

Go home drunk, you're Brad.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Bill Manspeaker on October 24, 2014, 10:53:53 PM
Quote from: Pkbaldy on October 24, 2014, 10:51:48 PM
Quote from: brad on October 24, 2014, 10:40:12 PM
might wanna join Alan Richardson in his rebuild? never watched Newton play (from memory) so I'm not sure if he'd be a good pick up or not

Go home drunk, you're Brad.
haha exactly :P

is he any good?
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Vinny on October 24, 2014, 11:06:26 PM
http://www.aflplayerratings.com.au/Ratings/Player/116340/Ben-NEWTON

Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Bill Manspeaker on October 24, 2014, 11:18:07 PM
cheers vin. obviously played most the year in the reserves but had quite a few really good games

QuoteClassy midfielder who was among Port's best in SANFL trial win over South Adelaide at the weekend.

we need class. doesn't sound like a bad idea to me.

need to actually watch him play first though
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Mr.Craig on October 25, 2014, 12:12:54 AM
The biggest mystery is how John Butcher is still on the flowering list.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Jukes on October 25, 2014, 12:17:40 AM
Quote from: Mr.Craig on October 25, 2014, 12:12:54 AM
The biggest mystery is how John Butcher is still on the flowering list.

I think he's still riding the reputation from kicking 6 goals with 6 possessions that one time in 2011
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Pkbaldy on October 25, 2014, 12:33:55 AM
Quote from: brad on October 24, 2014, 11:18:07 PM
cheers vin. obviously played most the year in the reserves but had quite a few really good games

QuoteClassy midfielder who was among Port's best in SANFL trial win over South Adelaide at the weekend.

we need class. doesn't sound like a bad idea to me.

need to actually watch him play first though

I don't mind him. Rather us try and get Caleb Daniel at 41. But either would be acceptable to me  :P
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Bill Manspeaker on October 25, 2014, 12:43:17 AM
can we pick him up in the rookie draft? would he have to nominate us beforehand so another club don't pick him?
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Pkbaldy on October 25, 2014, 12:46:08 AM
Not if we just use pick 1 on him  ;) Membrey for PSD and Newton from rookie draft. Don't see anyway we lose in that!
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Bill Manspeaker on October 25, 2014, 12:48:23 AM
yep like it!

gotta watch him play first though :P
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Pkbaldy on October 25, 2014, 12:55:00 AM
Quote from: brad on October 25, 2014, 12:48:23 AM
yep like it!

gotta watch him play first though :P

Yeah well it's hard to rate him. He destroys it in the 2s and gets the vest in the 1s... So he could be anything!
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Noz on October 25, 2014, 02:36:59 AM
Selfish bloke could of gone to Essendon for pick 17 to get Zruder decide to walk out instead flower off you flower
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Holz on October 25, 2014, 04:02:49 AM
Quote from: Noz on October 25, 2014, 02:36:59 AM
Selfish bloke could of gone to Essendon for pick 17 to get Zruder decide to walk out instead flower off you flower

It's completely understandable he wouldn't want to go to essendon with all that's going on.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Pkbaldy on October 25, 2014, 09:57:11 AM
Quote from: Noz on October 25, 2014, 02:36:59 AM
Selfish bloke could of gone to Essendon for pick 17 to get Zruder decide to walk out instead flower off you flower

Why on earth would you want to go from a club you don't want to be at, to a club you don't want to be at?
And I'd think that being at Essendon at this time would be much worse.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Nige on October 25, 2014, 10:07:23 AM
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2014-10-24/they-could-have-been-demons

Demons fans may not want to read this.  :-X
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Noz on October 25, 2014, 10:34:25 AM
Quote from: Nige on October 25, 2014, 10:07:23 AM
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2014-10-24/they-could-have-been-demons

Demons fans may not want to read this.  :-X
This is stupid every club should be included in this Melbourne weren't the only clubs who didn't pick up these players (apart from the Scully and Watts selection)
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Nige on October 25, 2014, 10:52:31 AM
Quote from: Noz on October 25, 2014, 10:34:25 AM
Quote from: Nige on October 25, 2014, 10:07:23 AM
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2014-10-24/they-could-have-been-demons

Demons fans may not want to read this.  :-X
This is stupid every club should be included in this Melbourne weren't the only clubs who didn't pick up these players (apart from the Scully and Watts selection)
Yeah, I totally agree.

A great example is Robbie Gray, went at Pick 60, meaning every club passed on him at least twice.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Pkbaldy on October 25, 2014, 10:53:24 AM
I don't know why they add fyfe into this shower. Nearly everyone missed out on Fyfe get over it.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: elephants on October 25, 2014, 11:13:10 AM
Quote from: Holz on October 25, 2014, 04:02:49 AM
Quote from: Noz on October 25, 2014, 02:36:59 AM
Selfish bloke could of gone to Essendon for pick 17 to get Zruder decide to walk out instead flower off you flower

It's completely understandable he wouldn't want to go to essendon with all that's going on.

Its completely understandable he wouldn't want to go to Essendon full stop. :p
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Nige on October 25, 2014, 04:21:08 PM
Suns keen on appointing a 'proven coach' or something like that so they're apparently after Rodney Eade.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Holz on October 25, 2014, 09:01:05 PM
Quote from: Noz on October 25, 2014, 10:34:25 AM
Quote from: Nige on October 25, 2014, 10:07:23 AM
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2014-10-24/they-could-have-been-demons

Demons fans may not want to read this.  :-X
This is stupid every club should be included in this Melbourne weren't the only clubs who didn't pick up these players (apart from the Scully and Watts selection)

plus they might not have turned out to be good players at melbourne.

Who knows Scully Trengove Watts could have been stars at other clubs.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Big Mac on October 25, 2014, 09:38:03 PM
Quote from: Holz on October 25, 2014, 09:01:05 PM
Quote from: Noz on October 25, 2014, 10:34:25 AM
Quote from: Nige on October 25, 2014, 10:07:23 AM
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2014-10-24/they-could-have-been-demons

Demons fans may not want to read this.  :-X
This is stupid every club should be included in this Melbourne weren't the only clubs who didn't pick up these players (apart from the Scully and Watts selection)

plus they might not have turned out to be good players at melbourne.

Who knows Scully Trengove Watts could have been stars at other clubs.

Scully is at another club?
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Pkbaldy on October 25, 2014, 09:55:59 PM
Quote from: Big  Mac on October 25, 2014, 09:38:03 PM
Quote from: Holz on October 25, 2014, 09:01:05 PM
Quote from: Noz on October 25, 2014, 10:34:25 AM
Quote from: Nige on October 25, 2014, 10:07:23 AM
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2014-10-24/they-could-have-been-demons

Demons fans may not want to read this.  :-X
This is stupid every club should be included in this Melbourne weren't the only clubs who didn't pick up these players (apart from the Scully and Watts selection)

plus they might not have turned out to be good players at melbourne.

Who knows Scully Trengove Watts could have been stars at other clubs.

Scully is at another club?

Yeah but those first years are the most crucial. Melbourne just don't know how to build their youngsters. Now it's too late for him, the damage has been done.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Big Mac on October 26, 2014, 12:03:27 AM
Quote from: Pkbaldy on October 25, 2014, 09:55:59 PM
Quote from: Big  Mac on October 25, 2014, 09:38:03 PM
Quote from: Holz on October 25, 2014, 09:01:05 PM
Quote from: Noz on October 25, 2014, 10:34:25 AM
Quote from: Nige on October 25, 2014, 10:07:23 AM
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2014-10-24/they-could-have-been-demons

Demons fans may not want to read this.  :-X
This is stupid every club should be included in this Melbourne weren't the only clubs who didn't pick up these players (apart from the Scully and Watts selection)

plus they might not have turned out to be good players at melbourne.

Who knows Scully Trengove Watts could have been stars at other clubs.

Scully is at another club?

Yeah but those first years are the most crucial. Melbourne just don't know how to build their youngsters. Now it's too late for him, the damage has been done.

I agree that the Neeld/Bailey era was...well...I think we all know how it went. But I don't think that Scully was just so traumatised by his time at the club that he couldn't develop in to the player many people thought he would. At some point the player needs to be held accountable. Just look at what Nathan Jones has achieved - he's improved every year. The player needs to have the will to improve as well - it's not all just up to the club.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Ricochet on October 27, 2014, 05:55:58 PM
Western Bulldogs have delisted Mark Austin and Alex Greenwood. Jack Redpath has been moved to the senior list.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Ricochet on October 27, 2014, 06:55:33 PM
Apparently Rodney Eade has been offered a 4 year deal to coach GC
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Ricochet on October 28, 2014, 01:32:20 PM
Saints have delisted Schneider but will re-draft him in the rookie draft
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Pkbaldy on October 28, 2014, 02:22:53 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on October 28, 2014, 01:32:20 PM
Saints have delisted Schneider but will re-draft him in the rookie draft

And Terry Milera. So we can rookie upgrade Maverick Weller!
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: SydneyRox on October 28, 2014, 02:29:19 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on October 28, 2014, 01:32:20 PM
Saints have delisted Schneider but will re-draft him in the rookie draft

That makes no sense to me?
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Jroo on October 28, 2014, 02:31:22 PM
Quote from: SydneyRox on October 28, 2014, 02:29:19 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on October 28, 2014, 01:32:20 PM
Saints have delisted Schneider but will re-draft him in the rookie draft

That makes no sense to me?
He's moving from the senior list to the rookie list?
Instead of getting rid of him altogether, they're keeping him on the rookie list.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: SydneyRox on October 28, 2014, 02:36:52 PM
Quote from: JROO8 on October 28, 2014, 02:31:22 PM
Quote from: SydneyRox on October 28, 2014, 02:29:19 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on October 28, 2014, 01:32:20 PM
Saints have delisted Schneider but will re-draft him in the rookie draft

That makes no sense to me?
He's moving from the senior list to the rookie list?
Instead of getting rid of him altogether, they're keeping him on the rookie list.

I understand the process but disagree with the logic. If he isnt good enough to be on the primary list, then you would better off getting another young rookie in surely?

Experience etc etc sure, but he has one year left, wont play a senior game unless they get the right LTI to upgrade him. They are obviously 'doing the right thing' by each other, to allow weller to come up and effectively take schneiders senior list spot.

But why not just give him a coaching role, he could still play in the 2nds, mentor the youth and another young guy gets a rookie contract?

Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Ziplock on October 28, 2014, 03:15:37 PM
Quote from: SydneyRox on October 28, 2014, 02:36:52 PM
Quote from: JROO8 on October 28, 2014, 02:31:22 PM
Quote from: SydneyRox on October 28, 2014, 02:29:19 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on October 28, 2014, 01:32:20 PM
Saints have delisted Schneider but will re-draft him in the rookie draft

That makes no sense to me?
He's moving from the senior list to the rookie list?
Instead of getting rid of him altogether, they're keeping him on the rookie list.

I understand the process but disagree with the logic. If he isnt good enough to be on the primary list, then you would better off getting another young rookie in surely?

Experience etc etc sure, but he has one year left, wont play a senior game unless they get the right LTI to upgrade him. They are obviously 'doing the right thing' by each other, to allow weller to come up and effectively take schneiders senior list spot.

But why not just give him a coaching role, he could still play in the 2nds, mentor the youth and another young guy gets a rookie contract?

they're keeping him for that specific LTI I guess.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Pkbaldy on October 28, 2014, 04:09:20 PM
Quote from: Ziplock on October 28, 2014, 03:15:37 PM
Quote from: SydneyRox on October 28, 2014, 02:36:52 PM
Quote from: JROO8 on October 28, 2014, 02:31:22 PM
Quote from: SydneyRox on October 28, 2014, 02:29:19 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on October 28, 2014, 01:32:20 PM
Saints have delisted Schneider but will re-draft him in the rookie draft

That makes no sense to me?
He's moving from the senior list to the rookie list?
Instead of getting rid of him altogether, they're keeping him on the rookie list.

I understand the process but disagree with the logic. If he isnt good enough to be on the primary list, then you would better off getting another young rookie in surely?

Experience etc etc sure, but he has one year left, wont play a senior game unless they get the right LTI to upgrade him. They are obviously 'doing the right thing' by each other, to allow weller to come up and effectively take schneiders senior list spot.

But why not just give him a coaching role, he could still play in the 2nds, mentor the youth and another young guy gets a rookie contract?

they're keeping him for that specific LTI I guess.

We've done it several times with older blokes. Just so we could upgrade Weller to the Senior List without having the delist anyone else. And Schneids will just play when someone goes on the LTI list...
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Ricochet on October 28, 2014, 04:13:00 PM
Can't underestimate how much experience and leadership adds to a playing group, even if they are just on the rookie list
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Bill Manspeaker on October 28, 2014, 04:15:50 PM
yep spot on Rico
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Pkbaldy on October 28, 2014, 04:32:55 PM
Quote from: brad on October 28, 2014, 04:15:50 PM
yep spot on Rico

He sees himself more as a mentor than a player now a days anyway
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Noz on October 28, 2014, 05:10:45 PM
To be fair i didn't even know he was sill on an AFL list.

Hopefully his experience is pivotal to the Saints rebuild
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Ricochet on October 28, 2014, 07:10:48 PM
another from Sam McClure

"Sam Blease officially a Geelong player. Has signed a one year deal."
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: SydneyRox on October 28, 2014, 07:31:14 PM
Quote from: Noz on October 28, 2014, 05:10:45 PM
To be fair i didn't even know he was sill on an AFL list.

Hopefully his experience is pivotal to the Saints rebuild

(http://cf.chucklesnetwork.com/items/5/1/4/3/original/cant-tell-if-comment-was-supposed-to-be-a-compliment-or-if-its-s.jpg)
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Mailman the 2nd on October 28, 2014, 08:01:06 PM
It was sarcasm.

Gotta feel bad for him and Dempster. 1 flag in 6 attempts!!
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Noz on October 28, 2014, 08:01:44 PM
Quote from: Mailman the 2nd on October 28, 2014, 08:01:06 PM
It was sarcasm.

Gotta feel bad for him and Dempster. 1 flag in 6 attempts!!

Yeah this.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Noz on October 28, 2014, 09:04:06 PM
Eddie McGuire has said Collingwood won't release Rodney Eade to the gold Coast until the Sounds hand the pies compensation for his loss.

McGuire told the Herald Sun on Tuesday the pies would need to pay a premium to replace footy boss Eade and then have to apply the new football department tax on that wage.

Eade has told the Pies he will accept a three year deal to coach Gold Coast with the Sounds board set to rubber-stamp that appointment this week
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: My Chumps on October 28, 2014, 09:14:57 PM
Eddie crying about something again, whodathunkit
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: ADEZ on October 28, 2014, 09:23:57 PM
You'd think they'd let him go and wish him good fortune ??? like all other clubs do in this circumstance
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Mr.Craig on October 28, 2014, 09:29:21 PM
Eddie gonna Ed.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: kilbluff1985 on October 28, 2014, 09:29:45 PM
Quote from: Mr.Craig on October 28, 2014, 09:29:21 PM
Eddie gonna Ed.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Grazz on October 28, 2014, 09:31:04 PM
Quote from: My Chumps on October 28, 2014, 09:14:57 PM
Eddie crying about something again, whodathunkit

Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Ricochet on October 28, 2014, 11:58:02 PM
To be fair, pretty such he still had 2 years (might only be 1, not 100%) left on his contract at the Pies

We complain that contracts mean nothing these days when players break them... Same should go for coaches
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: elephants on October 28, 2014, 11:59:04 PM
I think the fact its Eddie makes it crazily comical haha
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Grazz on October 29, 2014, 12:03:49 AM
Quote from: Ricochet on October 28, 2014, 11:58:02 PM
To be fair, pretty such he still had 2 years (might only be 1, not 100%) left on his contract at the Pies

We complain that contracts mean nothing these days when players break them... Same should go for coaches

Disagree mate, there seems to be an unwritten rule that if an assistant is offered a senior coaching role the clubs release them with their best wishes which is fair otherwise you'll have assistants that aspire to a senior coaching role signing one year deals only if this is going to be the norm. Comparing coaches and players in this situation is apples and oranges.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Ricochet on October 29, 2014, 12:08:55 AM
Quote from: Grazz on October 29, 2014, 12:03:49 AM
Quote from: Ricochet on October 28, 2014, 11:58:02 PM
To be fair, pretty such he still had 2 years (might only be 1, not 100%) left on his contract at the Pies

We complain that contracts mean nothing these days when players break them... Same should go for coaches

Disagree mate, there seems to be an unwritten rule that if an assistant is offered a senior coaching role the clubs release them with their best wishes which is fair otherwise you'll have assistants that aspire to a senior coaching role signing one year deals only if this is going to be the norm. Comparing coaches and players in this situation is apples and oranges.
Don't disagree at all mate. Pies have said they will let him go, they just want to be compensated for the rest of his contract. Which I personally think is fair.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Grazz on October 29, 2014, 12:18:22 AM
Quote from: Ricochet on October 29, 2014, 12:08:55 AM
Quote from: Grazz on October 29, 2014, 12:03:49 AM
Quote from: Ricochet on October 28, 2014, 11:58:02 PM
To be fair, pretty such he still had 2 years (might only be 1, not 100%) left on his contract at the Pies

We complain that contracts mean nothing these days when players break them... Same should go for coaches

Disagree mate, there seems to be an unwritten rule that if an assistant is offered a senior coaching role the clubs release them with their best wishes which is fair otherwise you'll have assistants that aspire to a senior coaching role signing one year deals only if this is going to be the norm. Comparing coaches and players in this situation is apples and oranges.
Don't disagree at all mate. Pies have said they will let him go, they just want to be compensated for the rest of his contract. Which I personally think is fair.

If Eade has been paid for 2015 already then i think it's Eade that should be returning his wages for that 12 months that he wont honour. I totally agree if dollars have changed hands for the full term of the contract then the club loosing that coach should be compensated for those funds for the period left on the contract and to me that should come from the coach in question otherwise he's double dipping and i don't agree with that at all. It has to be a two way street, you are under contract but the club is kind enough to let you go then do the right thing and return the amount that is outstanding.

Edit: Just to clarify mate is this the issue we are discussing, the wages/salary already paid to the coach leaving.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Ricochet on October 29, 2014, 12:56:46 AM
Quote from: Grazz on October 29, 2014, 12:18:22 AM
Quote from: Ricochet on October 29, 2014, 12:08:55 AM
Quote from: Grazz on October 29, 2014, 12:03:49 AM
Quote from: Ricochet on October 28, 2014, 11:58:02 PM
To be fair, pretty such he still had 2 years (might only be 1, not 100%) left on his contract at the Pies

We complain that contracts mean nothing these days when players break them... Same should go for coaches

Disagree mate, there seems to be an unwritten rule that if an assistant is offered a senior coaching role the clubs release them with their best wishes which is fair otherwise you'll have assistants that aspire to a senior coaching role signing one year deals only if this is going to be the norm. Comparing coaches and players in this situation is apples and oranges.
Don't disagree at all mate. Pies have said they will let him go, they just want to be compensated for the rest of his contract. Which I personally think is fair.

If Eade has been paid for 2015 already then i think it's Eade that should be returning his wages for that 12 months that he wont honour. I totally agree if dollars have changed hands for the full term of the contract then the club loosing that coach should be compensated for those funds for the period left on the contract and to me that should come from the coach in question otherwise he's double dipping and i don't agree with that at all. It has to be a two way street, you are under contract but the club is kind enough to let you go then do the right thing and return the amount that is outstanding.

Edit: Just to clarify mate is this the issue we are discussing, the wages/salary already paid to the coach leaving.
Yeh mate, not questioning whether he should be leave or not. Just that Pies should be able to claim compo
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Grazz on October 29, 2014, 01:29:25 AM
Yeh i gotta agree if money for 2015 has changed hands already. As i said in the PM im not up to speed how coaches contracts are paid in the AFL. Like are they paid monthly yearly or the full amount changes hands the day they start work for the club. If the full amount is paid i'd find this a little silly considering alot of assistants would aspire to a senior position.

If Eddies argument is the wages paid for 2015 then i have no issue with that at all, fairs fair Eades been paid for work he won't complete and being old school i feel it would be up to Eade to return the portion of money he would of received for season 2015 ie
if it was a four year contract at 100k (using these figures only to keep it simple) then Eade would owe the Pies a 100k, how the tax on that amount is returned is a little tricky i guess, wether Eade pays that or his new club pays it to make up the 100k owed to the Pies i don't really know but yeh someone owes it.

As i said im old school and wouldn't ask my new employee to pay it and i'd feel obligated to return it and it should be returned after all the club has released you from their contract so you can move onto bigger and better things and you don't intend to complete the term of the contract.

I guess it's all conjecture if we don't know how Eade has been paid.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: SydneyRox on October 29, 2014, 11:59:03 AM
I think my main issue with it all is that Eddie thinks it is ok to continually use his radio/tv gigs to air his issues and dirty laundry.

A real CEO would be having the conversations in private and sorting them out. GC havent even confirmed that Eade is the one they want and Eddie is already using his radio show as a platform to get publicity on the event.

Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Mailman the 2nd on October 29, 2014, 01:11:55 PM
You reap the shower you sow eddie
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Vinny on October 29, 2014, 01:37:14 PM
Eddie is just an A-Grade flowerwit.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Grazz on October 29, 2014, 02:47:42 PM
We all get on Eddies case from time to time, myself included. Love him or loathe him he is a very good club President and would walk through fire for Collingwood. Compensation so it seems is nothing new which may surprise a few of us it did me. Port sought compensation from the Saints for Richardson and got some, Port also compensated GC for Hart so i imagine it has happened in other instances aswell with other clubs, it just has been aired in public before. Yep this has been Eddie's doing he decided to use his media profile to air it which isnt entirely a bad thing as we all are now aware that it does take place whereas before most of us would of had little idea it happened at all.

To be honest if a club is significantly out of pocket for what we all deem as doing the right thing by releasing someone from a contract to go to head coaching role then it's only fair that they be compensated or reimbursed which i think is a better word.
Clubs can't afford to lose a 100k here a 150k there regardless of their wealth or lack of, you run a business like that you wont have it long.

Ideally what we all need to know before becoming the lynch mob for Eddie is what exactly the reimbursement is for and how much is it. Without knowing this it's hard to make a fair call on wether it's justified or a sookie sookie lala event.

I too at first thought c'mon man suck it up, the right thing is to let him go to a senior coaching role, so many clubs in the past have done it why are you bucking the trend but since it's been brought out in the open like it has ive changed my tune a little. It's a lot more complicated than i first thought, there is significant amounts of money involved, there has been a precedent set in the past by other clubs and reading between the lines there is some relevance to Eddie's argument, we just are not aware of all the details, the proof is always in the detail.

I hope more of this is released and we get all the details as to what and why, then i think i'll be able to make a better judgement, thats a good thing as tbh im always disappointed in myself if make a half baked assumption without knowing all the details only to see those ive baked vindicated in the end. We all do it even after we've said maybe next time i'll wait for all the facts haha but i/we rarely do wait for all the facts as it takes to long and i want my opinion heard.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Ricochet on October 29, 2014, 02:51:42 PM
Well said mate. It'll be interesting when/if all the details do come out.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Grazz on October 29, 2014, 03:17:39 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on October 29, 2014, 02:51:42 PM
Well said mate. It'll be interesting when/if all the details do come out.

I hope it does all come out, im busy thinking who or how i can find the devil in the detail. It's interesting and at some point will affect all our respective clubs, be nice to know what we are discussing is all about.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Ringo on October 29, 2014, 04:24:03 PM
Trying to get the article out of Local Courier Mail with out luck to post.

"Article starts off with Gold Coast refusing to budge to Eddies bully boy tactics  and has some interesting facts - Port only paid $20k for Richardson but reports Pies are seeking nearly $200k to release Eade to Suns which appears way over unless his 2015 Salary has been prepaid.

Suns are reportedly willing to meet recruitment costs of Pies and any relocation costs for successful coach to move from interstate.  Think this would be fair compensation in the circumstances.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: shaker on October 29, 2014, 04:59:08 PM
If Eade has already been paid for next year this might get interesting don't see how that is the Suns problem without looking at his contract it is hard to say what will happen , lesson don't pay people in advance
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Ricochet on October 29, 2014, 05:25:20 PM
http://www.essendonfc.com.au/news/2014-10-29/final-list-changes-2014

Cory Dell'Olio, Dylan van Unen and Fraser Thurlow have all been advised their contracts will not be renewed for the 2015 season.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Mr.Craig on October 29, 2014, 05:39:48 PM
Pretty surprised about Dell tbh.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: kilbluff1985 on October 29, 2014, 05:49:05 PM
Quote from: Mr.Craig on October 29, 2014, 05:39:48 PM
Pretty surprised about Dell tbh.

is behind Kommer and a number of other guys in that position i don't think he has enough x factor for that spot
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Jukes on October 29, 2014, 06:31:11 PM
:/ I love Delly, ripper player when in form and exciting.

Dons sign Mark Neeld as a development coach :) reckon it's a great role for a good coach.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Nige on October 29, 2014, 06:39:38 PM
Dell's a shock, Van Unen and Thurlow are no surprise though.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Mr.Craig on October 29, 2014, 11:36:55 PM
And now for something completely different...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6P5UDfDxuOw
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Purple 77 on October 30, 2014, 09:21:57 AM
Quote from: Mr.Craig on October 29, 2014, 11:36:55 PM
And now for something completely different...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6P5UDfDxuOw

I laughed too much at this  ;D
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Ricochet on October 30, 2014, 09:53:08 AM
clubs are looking at Dan Connors :o Four of them apparently
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: T Dog on October 30, 2014, 10:54:23 AM
Quote from: Purple 77 on October 30, 2014, 09:21:57 AM
Quote from: Mr.Craig on October 29, 2014, 11:36:55 PM
And now for something completely different...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6P5UDfDxuOw

I laughed too much at this  ;D

sensational  ;D
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Pkbaldy on October 30, 2014, 11:58:53 AM
Quote from: Ricochet on October 30, 2014, 09:53:08 AM
clubs are looking at Dan Connors :o Four of them apparently

As if they wouldn't. Had a good year and is a great player, just needs to get his head straight. Like Robbo.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Ricochet on October 30, 2014, 01:45:14 PM
Quote from: Pkbaldy on October 30, 2014, 11:58:53 AM
Quote from: Ricochet on October 30, 2014, 09:53:08 AM
clubs are looking at Dan Connors :o Four of them apparently

As if they wouldn't. Had a good year and is a great player, just needs to get his head straight. Like Robbo.
To be fair, Connors was a little bit worse than Robbo





Looks like this announcement will come later today

http://www.foxsports.com.au/afl/afl-premiership/rodney-eade-will-coach-gold-coast-in-2015-after-the-suns-secured-his-release-from-collingwood/story-e6frf3e3-1227106433912

RODNEY Eade will coach Gold Coast after Suns chiefs today brokered a deal with their Collingwood counterparts for his release.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Pkbaldy on October 30, 2014, 02:14:09 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on October 30, 2014, 01:45:14 PM
Quote from: Pkbaldy on October 30, 2014, 11:58:53 AM
Quote from: Ricochet on October 30, 2014, 09:53:08 AM
clubs are looking at Dan Connors :o Four of them apparently

As if they wouldn't. Had a good year and is a great player, just needs to get his head straight. Like Robbo.
To be fair, Connors was a little bit worse than Robbo





Looks like this announcement will come later today

http://www.foxsports.com.au/afl/afl-premiership/rodney-eade-will-coach-gold-coast-in-2015-after-the-suns-secured-his-release-from-collingwood/story-e6frf3e3-1227106433912

RODNEY Eade will coach Gold Coast after Suns chiefs today brokered a deal with their Collingwood counterparts for his release.

Not exactly true. Didn't really see what he was able to do. 22 Games isn't that much.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Ricochet on October 30, 2014, 02:15:22 PM
Quote from: Pkbaldy on October 30, 2014, 02:14:09 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on October 30, 2014, 01:45:14 PM
Quote from: Pkbaldy on October 30, 2014, 11:58:53 AM
Quote from: Ricochet on October 30, 2014, 09:53:08 AM
clubs are looking at Dan Connors :o Four of them apparently

As if they wouldn't. Had a good year and is a great player, just needs to get his head straight. Like Robbo.
To be fair, Connors was a little bit worse than Robbo





Looks like this announcement will come later today

http://www.foxsports.com.au/afl/afl-premiership/rodney-eade-will-coach-gold-coast-in-2015-after-the-suns-secured-his-release-from-collingwood/story-e6frf3e3-1227106433912

RODNEY Eade will coach Gold Coast after Suns chiefs today brokered a deal with their Collingwood counterparts for his release.

Not exactly true. Didn't really see what he was able to do. 22 Games isn't that much.
I meant off field man. Certainly not denying his talent
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Pkbaldy on October 30, 2014, 02:16:27 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on October 30, 2014, 02:15:22 PM
Quote from: Pkbaldy on October 30, 2014, 02:14:09 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on October 30, 2014, 01:45:14 PM
Quote from: Pkbaldy on October 30, 2014, 11:58:53 AM
Quote from: Ricochet on October 30, 2014, 09:53:08 AM
clubs are looking at Dan Connors :o Four of them apparently

As if they wouldn't. Had a good year and is a great player, just needs to get his head straight. Like Robbo.
To be fair, Connors was a little bit worse than Robbo





Looks like this announcement will come later today

http://www.foxsports.com.au/afl/afl-premiership/rodney-eade-will-coach-gold-coast-in-2015-after-the-suns-secured-his-release-from-collingwood/story-e6frf3e3-1227106433912

RODNEY Eade will coach Gold Coast after Suns chiefs today brokered a deal with their Collingwood counterparts for his release.

Not exactly true. Didn't really see what he was able to do. 22 Games isn't that much.
I meant off field man. Certainly not denying his talent

oh sorry  :P Yeah... He liked his pills haha.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Nige on October 30, 2014, 03:12:09 PM
Quote from: Pkbaldy on October 30, 2014, 11:58:53 AM
Quote from: Ricochet on October 30, 2014, 09:53:08 AM
clubs are looking at Dan Connors :o Four of them apparently

As if they wouldn't. Had a good year and is a great player, just needs to get his head straight. Like Robbo.
Not surprised, was superb for Port in the VFL. Just hope this doesn't end up like the Mitch Thorp story...
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Nige on October 31, 2014, 09:43:07 AM
The race for the Dogs job is down to three: http://www.afl.com.au/news/2014-10-31/dogs-hunt-narrows-to-three

Peter Sumich, Brett Montgomery and Luke Beveridge are the remaining candidates
.
I still reckon Montgomery will get the job.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: T Dog on October 31, 2014, 10:09:28 AM
Quote from: Nige on October 31, 2014, 09:43:07 AM
The race for the Dogs job is down to three: http://www.afl.com.au/news/2014-10-31/dogs-hunt-narrows-to-three

Peter Sumich, Brett Montgomery and Luke Beveridge are the remaining candidates
.
I still reckon Montgomery will get the job.

No Bomber Thomson?...why is that???  :-\
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Noz on October 31, 2014, 10:38:57 AM
Quote from: Nige on October 31, 2014, 09:43:07 AM
The race for the Dogs job is down to three: http://www.afl.com.au/news/2014-10-31/dogs-hunt-narrows-to-three

Peter Sumich, Brett Montgomery and Luke Beveridge are the remaining candidates
.
I still reckon Montgomery will get the job.

Leigh Tudor?
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: GoLions on October 31, 2014, 11:24:41 AM
Quote from: Noz on October 31, 2014, 10:38:57 AM
Quote from: Nige on October 31, 2014, 09:43:07 AM
The race for the Dogs job is down to three: http://www.afl.com.au/news/2014-10-31/dogs-hunt-narrows-to-three

Peter Sumich, Brett Montgomery and Luke Beveridge are the remaining candidates
.
I still reckon Montgomery will get the job.

Leigh Tudor?
Yeah I heard yesterday that Hodor Tudor was favourite or something
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Noz on October 31, 2014, 11:38:56 AM
Quote from: GoLions on October 31, 2014, 11:24:41 AM
Quote from: Noz on October 31, 2014, 10:38:57 AM
Quote from: Nige on October 31, 2014, 09:43:07 AM
The race for the Dogs job is down to three: http://www.afl.com.au/news/2014-10-31/dogs-hunt-narrows-to-three

Peter Sumich, Brett Montgomery and Luke Beveridge are the remaining candidates
.
I still reckon Montgomery will get the job.

Leigh Tudor?
Yeah I heard yesterday that Hodor Tudor was favourite or something

Im hearing 2 things from a source one that Tudor is favourite for the Dogs job and another that he is favourite to become the new assistant coach at Gold Coast.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Mr.Craig on October 31, 2014, 12:23:50 PM
I want to see what Sumich is made of as a coach.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Ricochet on October 31, 2014, 12:28:26 PM
Quote from: Mr.Craig on October 31, 2014, 12:23:50 PM
I want to see what Sumich is made of as a coach.
If he doesn't get this job then I'm starting to think he is just a great assistant coach and doesn't quite have it for the top job. Know that he is great tactically and especially as a line coach, but must be lack other aspects if he keeps missing out on head coaching roles.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: elephants on October 31, 2014, 12:34:01 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on October 31, 2014, 12:28:26 PM
Quote from: Mr.Craig on October 31, 2014, 12:23:50 PM
I want to see what Sumich is made of as a coach.
If he doesn't get this job then I'm starting to think he is just a great assistant coach and doesn't quite have it for the top job. Know that he is great tactically and especially as a line coach, but must be lack other aspects if he keeps missing out on head coaching roles.

He must be absolutely shower at interviews
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Ricochet on October 31, 2014, 02:01:32 PM
LTapscott delisted by Melb
Armstrong delisted by Pies but will re-rookied
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: The_Captain on October 31, 2014, 05:40:32 PM
Quote from: elephants on October 31, 2014, 12:34:01 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on October 31, 2014, 12:28:26 PM
Quote from: Mr.Craig on October 31, 2014, 12:23:50 PM
I want to see what Sumich is made of as a coach.
If he doesn't get this job then I'm starting to think he is just a great assistant coach and doesn't quite have it for the top job. Know that he is great tactically and especially as a line coach, but must be lack other aspects if he keeps missing out on head coaching roles.

He must be absolutely shower at interviews

Don't rate him hey. I reckons he will send the doggies backwards!
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Nige on October 31, 2014, 06:28:10 PM
DFA starts tomorrow iirc.

These have been rumoured.

likely signings:

    Brisbane: Mitch Robinson (Carlton)
    Carlton: Jason Tutt (Western Bulldogs), Matthew Dick (Sydney)
    Geelong: Sam Blease (Melbourne)
    Gold Coast: Andrew Raines (Brisbane)
    Richmond: Taylor Hunt (Geelong)
    St. Kilda: Shaun McKernan (Adelaide)

possible:

    Brisbane: Jordan Schroder (Geelong)
    GWS: Brock McLean (Carlton)
    Melbourne: Luke Thompson (Adelaide), Ben Newton (Port Adelaide)
    Port Adelaide: Luke Tapscott (Melbourne)
    St. Kilda: Jared Petrenko (Adelaide)
    Sydney: Brett Goodes (Western Bulldogs)
    West Coast: Kane Lucas (Carlton)
    Western Bulldogs: Joel Hamling (Geelong)



Took it from Reddit, but have heard/read all these at some point online.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: The_Captain on October 31, 2014, 06:34:05 PM
Out of that lot Nige.

I reckon Hunt and Petrenko would be good pickups for a side.

The rest.... Dont think he will too much influence.. Maybe Robbo if he stays injury free
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Pkbaldy on October 31, 2014, 06:40:19 PM
Quote from: Nige on October 31, 2014, 06:28:10 PM
DFA starts tomorrow iirc.

These have been rumoured.

likely signings:

    Brisbane: Mitch Robinson (Carlton)
    Carlton: Jason Tutt (Western Bulldogs), Matthew Dick (Sydney)
    Geelong: Sam Blease (Melbourne)
    Gold Coast: Andrew Raines (Brisbane)
    Richmond: Taylor Hunt (Geelong)
    St. Kilda: Shaun McKernan (Adelaide)

possible:

    Brisbane: Jordan Schroder (Geelong)
    GWS: Brock McLean (Carlton)
    Melbourne: Luke Thompson (Adelaide), Ben Newton (Port Adelaide)
    Port Adelaide: Luke Tapscott (Melbourne)
    St. Kilda: Jared Petrenko (Adelaide)
    Sydney: Brett Goodes (Western Bulldogs)
    West Coast: Kane Lucas (Carlton)
    Western Bulldogs: Joel Hamling (Geelong)



Took it from Reddit, but have heard/read all these at some point online.

Rather see the Saints take a punt at both McKernan and Newton. But I dunno what sort of room we have on our list...  :-\
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Nige on October 31, 2014, 06:42:59 PM
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2014-10-31/which-delisted-players-will-find-a-new-home
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Pkbaldy on October 31, 2014, 06:45:37 PM
Hunt is a local from St Kilda!  :P Could be a chance haha. But I don't know if he need any more defenders like him.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Ricochet on October 31, 2014, 06:46:06 PM
FREMANTLE

Jordan Lisle (Brisbane Lions, 24, 23 games)
Why Lisle? This is one out of left field but Lisle had one of his best matches against Fremantle, kicking three goals in round 12, 2013. With the retirements of Scott Gumbleton and Kepler Bradley and the recruitment of young key position players, there's a gulf in the age profile of the key forwards on Fremantle's list, which the ex-Hawk could fill.
Likelihood: 1/10. Lisle could be a good option but Fremantle are more likely to draft and develop. - Alex Malcolm

Don't mind that.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Pkbaldy on October 31, 2014, 06:47:45 PM
The 1 out of 10 chance? haha
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Ricochet on October 31, 2014, 06:51:52 PM
Membrey deal done

http://www.saints.com.au/news/2014-10-31/membrey-paperwork-lodged
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: The_Captain on October 31, 2014, 06:59:49 PM
Interesting...
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Bill Manspeaker on October 31, 2014, 07:00:15 PM
(http://33.media.tumblr.com/9083fd57925ac31e51dc46db09f51b86/tumblr_mu3scjR7k01shaex9o1_250.gif)
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Pkbaldy on October 31, 2014, 07:01:38 PM
Quote from: brad on October 31, 2014, 07:00:15 PM
(http://33.media.tumblr.com/9083fd57925ac31e51dc46db09f51b86/tumblr_mu3scjR7k01shaex9o1_250.gif)

It's all coming together nicely!
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Mr.Craig on October 31, 2014, 07:58:37 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on October 31, 2014, 06:51:52 PM
Membrey deal done

http://www.saints.com.au/news/2014-10-31/membrey-paperwork-lodged

You could say the deal has been "inked"

(http://i62.tinypic.com/2ib2kg9.jpg)

I'll see myself out.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: nrich102 on October 31, 2014, 08:04:53 PM
Lisle... LOL
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: T Dog on October 31, 2014, 08:19:00 PM
Quote from: Mr.Craig on October 31, 2014, 07:58:37 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on October 31, 2014, 06:51:52 PM
Membrey deal done

http://www.saints.com.au/news/2014-10-31/membrey-paperwork-lodged

You could say the deal has been "inked"

(http://i62.tinypic.com/2ib2kg9.jpg)

I'll see myself out.

Close the door on your way out.. 8)
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Samsturmfels on November 01, 2014, 11:31:26 AM
Would love to see a club pick up Burbury
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: KoopKicka on November 01, 2014, 12:28:10 PM
Just realzed while looking at the Delisted/Retired page on the website that Greg Broughton has been  delisted by GC. Dunno whether its already been mentioned.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Ringo on November 01, 2014, 12:28:41 PM
So to date under delisted free agency we see Tim Membrey to Saints and Taylor Hunt to Tigers
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Mailman the 2nd on November 01, 2014, 12:48:05 PM
Quote from: KoopKicka on November 01, 2014, 12:28:10 PM
Just realzed while looking at the Delisted/Retired page on the website that Greg Broughton has been  delisted by GC. Dunno whether its already been mentioned.

They're picking him up again as a rookie and then because they have no veterans he'll be lining up round 1 for them next year anyway
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Nige on November 01, 2014, 12:51:38 PM
Quote from: Ringo on November 01, 2014, 12:28:41 PM
So to date under delisted free agency we see Tim Membrey to Saints and Taylor Hunt to Tigers
8)
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Ricochet on November 01, 2014, 01:45:28 PM
Quote from: KoopKicka on November 01, 2014, 12:28:10 PM
Just realzed while looking at the Delisted/Retired page on the website that Greg Broughton has been  delisted by GC. Dunno whether its already been mentioned.
Yeh as mailman said, they've offered him a rookie deal. As it stands right now, he'll be returning to WA next year
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Vinny on November 01, 2014, 01:48:51 PM
I thought he and his management agreed to stay and he was keen to play on for GC.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Nige on November 01, 2014, 02:12:43 PM
Quote from: Vinny on November 01, 2014, 01:48:51 PM
I thought he and his management agreed to stay and he was keen to play on for GC.
Yeah, that's what I heard too. He'll go into the PSD where they'll re-draft him as a rookie so he'll be right to play Round 1.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Mailman the 2nd on November 01, 2014, 02:13:43 PM
yeah that's what I said
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Nige on November 01, 2014, 02:15:34 PM
Quote from: Mailman the 2nd on November 01, 2014, 02:13:43 PM
yeah that's what I said
We're aware, but I don't get where Ric got the bit about returning to WA from?  ???
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Hellopplz on November 01, 2014, 02:24:01 PM
Maybe murmurs of him wanting to return home? I haven't heard of them besides he's happy to play with Suns for the time being.

Hunt to Tigers is official as well.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: tbagrocks on November 01, 2014, 03:05:24 PM
I just cant believe the lack of interest in Robbo, will be a GREAT fit at the Lions though with those silky skilled players around him

Carn Crows, late charge for Robbo!!
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Ringo on November 01, 2014, 03:43:52 PM
I understand paperwork is being prepared Tbags,
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: tbagrocks on November 01, 2014, 03:51:17 PM
Quote from: Ringo on November 01, 2014, 03:43:52 PM
I understand paperwork is being prepared Tbags,
So Aish, Taylor, Mayes with Rocky and Hanley, sounds alright right?

Then comes Rich, Beams and Robbo :o

Still would've preferred Beams to stay at Collingwood and Lions Pay "Nothing" Next season :-\

But wow, aren't they building something up there! Pity though they miss out on potentially getting P Wright, Laverde or P McCartain

EDIT: Have a soft spot for the Lions, mainly because they beat Collingwood twice and aren't Victorian and the sad case they were before the Lions came along, also I liked Voss and Black! Now they have Aish and Mayes, two boys I followed closely back home. I like little Taylor too, a real draft steal the Vics will hate ;D and everyone loves Zorko :P  plus the mad Irishman. Redden is from Glenelg .........
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Mr.Craig on November 01, 2014, 04:08:57 PM
Don't have a forward line, that's Brisbane's problem.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Ricochet on November 01, 2014, 05:30:53 PM
Quote from: Nige on November 01, 2014, 02:15:34 PM
Quote from: Mailman the 2nd on November 01, 2014, 02:13:43 PM
yeah that's what I said
We're aware, but I don't get where Ric got the bit about returning to WA from?  ???
Sorry it meant to say 'the next year'. As is rookied for 2015 and will return to WA in 2016 as it stands atm.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: nrich102 on November 01, 2014, 06:29:04 PM
Quote from: Mr.Craig on November 01, 2014, 04:08:57 PM
Don't have a forward line, that's Brisbane's problem.
In a couple of years though... >:D

Freeman and Close dominating and McStay being awesome at both ends. And the Mozzie squad. And Christo + Robbo.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: strikes91 on November 01, 2014, 06:53:18 PM
Quote from: Mr.Craig on November 01, 2014, 04:08:57 PM
Don't have a forward line, that's Brisbane's problem.

Close and Freeman will be our next Brown and Bradshaw
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Mr.Craig on November 01, 2014, 07:00:37 PM
Will take some time, like nrich said in a couple of years they are going to be dangerous but I think they'll continue to struggle next season.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Nige on November 02, 2014, 10:26:10 AM
The Dogs have signed Joel Hamling, formerly of the Cats, as a DFA.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Nails on November 02, 2014, 11:11:19 AM
Jobe Watson Retired wtf?!?!

http://www.afl.com.au/news/2014-11-02/jobe-watson-retires-sights-asada-saga
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Jroo on November 02, 2014, 11:15:13 AM
 :o Wowee

Haha, good one Nails
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Pkbaldy on November 02, 2014, 11:26:12 AM
Quote from: Nails on November 02, 2014, 11:11:19 AM
Jobe Watson Retired wtf?!?!

http://www.afl.com.au/news/2014-11-02/jobe-watson-retires-sights-asada-saga

Complete bull? Seeings as it's not written anywhere else and that link doesn't work? haha
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Nails on November 02, 2014, 11:27:43 AM
Must be one of those articles they post then quickly delete. Probably an announcement coming later this arvo.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Nige on November 02, 2014, 11:34:21 AM
Quote from: Nails on November 02, 2014, 11:11:19 AM
Jobe Watson Retired wtf?!?!

http://www.afl.com.au/news/2014-11-02/jobe-watson-retires-sights-asada-saga
Perhaps a fabricated link? I mean, the wrong 'sights' has been used I'm fairly sure.

Pretty easy to make a fake one. ;)

http://www.afl.com.au/news/2014-11-02/sloane-decides-to-return-home

Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Pkbaldy on November 02, 2014, 11:45:46 AM
Quote from: Nige on November 02, 2014, 11:34:21 AM
Quote from: Nails on November 02, 2014, 11:11:19 AM
Jobe Watson Retired wtf?!?!

http://www.afl.com.au/news/2014-11-02/jobe-watson-retires-sights-asada-saga
Perhaps a fabricated link? I mean, the wrong 'sights' has been used I'm fairly sure.

Pretty easy to make a fake one. ;)

http://www.afl.com.au/news/2014-11-02/sloane-decides-to-return-home

One I found earlier

http://www.afl.com.au/news/2014-11-02/richmond-ice-addicts
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Nails on November 02, 2014, 11:47:11 AM
Maybe that's why they deleted? URL Typo?
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Nige on November 02, 2014, 11:48:03 AM
Quote from: Pkbaldy on November 02, 2014, 11:45:46 AM
Quote from: Nige on November 02, 2014, 11:34:21 AM
Quote from: Nails on November 02, 2014, 11:11:19 AM
Jobe Watson Retired wtf?!?!

http://www.afl.com.au/news/2014-11-02/jobe-watson-retires-sights-asada-saga
Perhaps a fabricated link? I mean, the wrong 'sights' has been used I'm fairly sure.

Pretty easy to make a fake one. ;)

http://www.afl.com.au/news/2014-11-02/sloane-decides-to-return-home

One I found earlier

http://www.afl.com.au/news/2014-11-02/richmond-ice-addicts
Haha, classic.  8)
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Pkbaldy on November 02, 2014, 11:48:33 AM
Quote from: Nails on November 02, 2014, 11:47:11 AM
Maybe that's why they deleted? URL Typo?

We will find out soon enough then!
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: kilbluff1985 on November 02, 2014, 11:50:22 AM
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2014-11-02/AFL.com.au-sues-Nails-for-posting-BS-links
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Ziplock on November 02, 2014, 01:11:43 PM
#sneakyXVbuisnessgoingonhere
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: _wato on November 02, 2014, 01:12:13 PM
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2014-11-02/everyone-should-shut-up-says-Watson
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Hellopplz on November 02, 2014, 01:21:43 PM
LEAVE WATSON ALONE *sobs uncontrollably.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Mr.Craig on November 02, 2014, 03:00:13 PM
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2014-11-02/offseason-drives-fantasy-football-coaches-to-insanity
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Ringo on November 03, 2014, 11:00:26 AM
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2014-11-03/cats-pleased-with-blease

Geelong have signed Sam Blease as was mooted

Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: The_Captain on November 03, 2014, 12:35:46 PM
Quote from: Ringo on November 03, 2014, 11:00:26 AM
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2014-11-03/cats-pleased-with-blease

Geelong have signed Sam Blease as was mooted

Interesting sign up... Not good enough for melb, but good enough for Geelong. So they delist Hunt and take Blease?? hrmmmm
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: kilbluff1985 on November 03, 2014, 12:37:33 PM
Quote from: noto07 on November 03, 2014, 12:35:46 PM
Quote from: Ringo on November 03, 2014, 11:00:26 AM
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2014-11-03/cats-pleased-with-blease

Geelong have signed Sam Blease as was mooted

Interesting sign up... Not good enough for melb, but good enough for Geelong. So they delist Hunt and take Blease?? hrmmmm

type of player that might do well in a good team
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Mailman the 2nd on November 03, 2014, 12:40:44 PM
hmm I'm unconvinced with that signing, Geelong had enough guys feeding off Selwood. They need more people to be doing the work with him rather than just getting more outside players
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Ricochet on November 03, 2014, 12:41:20 PM
Quote from: noto07 on November 03, 2014, 12:35:46 PM
Quote from: Ringo on November 03, 2014, 11:00:26 AM
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2014-11-03/cats-pleased-with-blease

Geelong have signed Sam Blease as was mooted

Interesting sign up... Not good enough for melb, but good enough for Geelong. So they delist Hunt and take Blease?? hrmmmm
Think they're more thinking, lose Varcoe and replace him with Blease.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Big Mac on November 03, 2014, 12:41:45 PM
He pretty much said himself that he can't play defensively
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: The_Captain on November 03, 2014, 12:48:38 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on November 03, 2014, 12:41:20 PM
Quote from: noto07 on November 03, 2014, 12:35:46 PM
Quote from: Ringo on November 03, 2014, 11:00:26 AM
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2014-11-03/cats-pleased-with-blease

Geelong have signed Sam Blease as was mooted

Interesting sign up... Not good enough for melb, but good enough for Geelong. So they delist Hunt and take Blease?? hrmmmm
Think they're more thinking, lose Varcoe and replace him with Blease.

Yeah maybe.. Can see there side of it.. But Varcoe finds the ball.. a lot more than Blease. Blease is a ball repellent.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Nige on November 03, 2014, 01:30:32 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on November 03, 2014, 12:41:20 PM
Quote from: noto07 on November 03, 2014, 12:35:46 PM
Quote from: Ringo on November 03, 2014, 11:00:26 AM
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2014-11-03/cats-pleased-with-blease

Geelong have signed Sam Blease as was mooted

Interesting sign up... Not good enough for melb, but good enough for Geelong. So they delist Hunt and take Blease?? hrmmmm
Think they're more thinking, lose Varcoe and replace him with Blease.
Yep, I'd say this is it.

Should be interesting to see how it works out for both him and the club.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Ricochet on November 03, 2014, 03:48:09 PM
Mitch Robbo officially a Lion. Caps off a great off season for Brissie
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Pkbaldy on November 03, 2014, 03:50:15 PM

Happy he found a home. Not happy I traded him in BXV haha. Now to hoping he doesn't get into the senior side  ;)
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Vinny on November 03, 2014, 03:51:35 PM
Quote from: Pkbaldy on November 03, 2014, 03:50:15 PM

Happy he found a home. Not happy I traded him in BXV haha. Now to hoping he doesn't get into the senior side  ;)
Told you. 8)
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Pkbaldy on November 03, 2014, 03:55:42 PM
Quote from: Vinny on November 03, 2014, 03:51:35 PM
Quote from: Pkbaldy on November 03, 2014, 03:50:15 PM

Happy he found a home. Not happy I traded him in BXV haha. Now to hoping he doesn't get into the senior side  ;)
Told you. 8)

Doesn't mean he'll get a game  :P He might have a run in with the crack heads up in Queensland haha
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Ricochet on November 03, 2014, 03:56:35 PM
Quote from: Pkbaldy on November 03, 2014, 03:55:42 PM
Quote from: Vinny on November 03, 2014, 03:51:35 PM
Quote from: Pkbaldy on November 03, 2014, 03:50:15 PM

Happy he found a home. Not happy I traded him in BXV haha. Now to hoping he doesn't get into the senior side  ;)
Told you. 8)

Doesn't mean he'll get a game  :P He might have a run in with the crack heads up in Queensland haha
Yeh will be interesting to see where he fits in. Brissie have a better midfield and higher quality half fwd/mids
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Mr.Craig on November 03, 2014, 04:11:48 PM
We should run a sweeps on how long he'll last.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: roo boys! on November 03, 2014, 04:42:01 PM
Good news for WXVs, now just have to hope he cements a spot in the side and returns to a 85-90 average. Too much to ask? :P
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Pkbaldy on November 03, 2014, 04:45:09 PM
Quote from: Mr.Craig on November 03, 2014, 04:11:48 PM
We should run a sweeps on how long he'll last.

Ice addict before round 5
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Ringo on November 03, 2014, 04:51:44 PM
My opinion is Robinson will be vying with Mayes, Bewick and Lester for one position in Lions best 22.

Here is my best 22 for 2015

B: Gardiner, Merrestt, Clarke,
HB: Adcock, Maguire, Rich
C: Christensen, Rockliff, Hanley
HF: Green, Freeman, Zorko
F: Taylor, Leuenberger, Staker
R: Martin, Redden, D Beams
INT: Harwood, Lester, Aish, Mayes
Players putting pressure on McStay, Close, Bewick, Harwood and Golby.  So you can see Robinson having to work hard to get into our 22.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: My Chumps on November 03, 2014, 04:54:07 PM
Top 8 team? ^

Tough to break into but sheesh, that is a huge improvement over last season.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Ringo on November 03, 2014, 05:41:35 PM
Quote from: My Chumps on November 03, 2014, 04:54:07 PM
Top 8 team? ^

Tough to break into but sheesh, that is a huge improvement over last season.
Still do not yhink we will make the 8 My Chumps still lacking a Key Forward up front, McStau, Freeman and Close are showing something but still a couple of years away from being this forawrd.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Vinny on November 03, 2014, 05:45:25 PM
Do you guys have much space left in your salary cap after bringing these guys in Ringo?
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: GoLions on November 03, 2014, 05:52:54 PM
Quote from: Vinny on November 03, 2014, 05:45:25 PM
Do you guys have much space left in your salary cap after bringing these guys in Ringo?
We had like $1.5mil; Beams at 700k, Christensen around 400k (i think), lost Patfull, and now whatever we're paying Robbo. So I'd imagine we'd still have a bit, but obviously nowhere near as much as before haha
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: strikes91 on November 03, 2014, 05:54:05 PM
Dunno if it's been mentioned or not but have heard rumors about Jake Carlise to Brisbane next year.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Pkbaldy on November 03, 2014, 06:21:42 PM
Quote from: strikes91 on November 03, 2014, 05:54:05 PM
Dunno if it's been mentioned or not but have heard rumors about Jake Carlise to Brisbane next year.

Didn't he just re-sign before this years trade period?
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Mr.Craig on November 03, 2014, 06:34:08 PM
My understanding is he's contracted until next year but has a get-out clause.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Nige on November 03, 2014, 08:11:24 PM
So just going throw a few new guernsey numbers for 2015.

Dunstan inheriting Lenny's #7

Robbo getting #5 at Brissie, while Beams gets #9.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: meow meow on November 03, 2014, 08:13:00 PM
Tom Boyd wearing Nathan Brown's old #17
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: nrich102 on November 03, 2014, 09:00:13 PM
Quote from: strikes91 on November 03, 2014, 05:54:05 PM
Dunno if it's been mentioned or not but have heard rumors about Jake Carlise to Brisbane next year.
Wouldn't mind that, would look quite good in our forward line.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: GoLions on November 03, 2014, 09:47:53 PM
Quote from: nrich102 on November 03, 2014, 09:00:13 PM
Quote from: strikes91 on November 03, 2014, 05:54:05 PM
Dunno if it's been mentioned or not but have heard rumors about Jake Carlise to Brisbane next year.
Wouldn't mind that, would look quite good in our forward line.
Let's be honest, everyone looks good in a Brisbane jumper :P
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Toga on November 03, 2014, 10:15:30 PM
Quote from: GoLions on November 03, 2014, 09:47:53 PM
Quote from: nrich102 on November 03, 2014, 09:00:13 PM
Quote from: strikes91 on November 03, 2014, 05:54:05 PM
Dunno if it's been mentioned or not but have heard rumors about Jake Carlise to Brisbane next year.
Wouldn't mind that, would look quite good in our forward line.
Let's be honest, everyone looks good in a Brisbane jumper :P

Maybe except for Mitch...  :-[

(http://resources3.news.com.au/images/2014/11/03/1227111/118099-1af3e2ca-6319-11e4-bdd3-73a977145716.jpg)
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Vinny on November 03, 2014, 10:16:34 PM
Hahahaha.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Bill Manspeaker on November 03, 2014, 10:20:09 PM
lmao
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: GoLions on November 03, 2014, 10:23:19 PM
Haha Togemobile, I literally just saw that on Facebook and was about to say the exact same thing :P
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: kilbluff1985 on November 03, 2014, 10:31:48 PM
Better get some sunscreen
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Mr.Craig on November 03, 2014, 10:33:53 PM
Is he sucking on a bunch of Warheads?
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Nige on November 03, 2014, 11:35:58 PM
Quote from: meow meow on November 03, 2014, 08:13:00 PM
Tom Boyd wearing Nathan Brown's old #17
Where'd you hear this?
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Nails on November 03, 2014, 11:48:35 PM
Can someone explain please why Mitch Robbo was so unwanted?
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Mr.Craig on November 04, 2014, 12:09:02 AM
I have no idea.

(http://www.afl.com.au/staticfile/AFL%20Tenant/AFL/Files/Images/mitch-robinson-BDO-620.jpg)
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Ringo on November 04, 2014, 08:54:26 AM
Quote from: GoLions on November 03, 2014, 05:52:54 PM
Quote from: Vinny on November 03, 2014, 05:45:25 PM
Do you guys have much space left in your salary cap after bringing these guys in Ringo?
We had like $1.5mil; Beams at 700k, Christensen around 400k (i think), lost Patfull, and now whatever we're paying Robbo. So I'd imagine we'd still have a bit, but obviously nowhere near as much as before haha
Also remember we have had Brown, Molney and McGrath retire as well which also frees up money. I still think we are still only 96% of salary cap so can bank under new rules. We will still have sufficient room to chase a key forward next year if Freeman, Close, McStay and Paporone do not develop quickly, Have also heard the rumour about Carlisle coming but nothing concreted to go on.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Mat0369 on November 05, 2014, 04:40:38 AM
Robbo will always look better in Navy Blue

Quote from: Nails on November 03, 2014, 11:48:35 PM
Can someone explain please why Mitch Robbo was so unwanted?

Teams knew they would get him for free (like Brisbane did) so he wasn't going to get picked up in a trade. The deal was probably signed during the trade period.

Also a couple of extra things on Mitch. This won't surprise anyone but he has ADHD, he also was not taking any meds for it for two reasons. The first is that most ADHD medication falls under the banned substance policy (this was talked about a while back when Fev was interviewed on the Footy Show) and the club liked him in 'Mad Mitch' mode. This would also explain the brain snaps on the field and his lack of consistency since it mainly effects his concentration and ability to take in info.

Here is an article where they mention it

http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/sport/afl/mitch-robinson-moves-to-his-own-beat/story-e6frexx0-1226095588030?nk=bb9433a51d08148b4ceef8f575d7e0a0

Quote"I might as well say it . . . Ratts and the coaches were wondering in meetings why I wouldn't process stuff very well. I got sent to a specialist and I had ADHD (attention deficit hyperactivity disorder), so they said I could take tablets for it. Tablets? No chance.

"You can't tell when someone's got that, it's just your personality. You can't say he's hyperactive sort of, you're just an upbeat person.

"The biggest thing is consistency. You can't be up one week and down the next. Just like your footy. You've got to be consistent. Like life, I've found a good balance. I got my two brothers over here, I'm playing good footy, I haven't been in trouble all year. It's all good."

Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Ringo on November 05, 2014, 09:22:42 AM
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2014-11-05/newtons-new-start

Ben Newton joins the Dees.  Not sure what to make of this but will add to the Dees work around the stoppages.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Purple 77 on November 05, 2014, 09:48:39 AM
Quote from: Ringo on November 05, 2014, 09:22:42 AM
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2014-11-05/newtons-new-start

Ben Newton joins the Dees.  Not sure what to make of this but will add to the Dees work around the stoppages.

I liken this to our Riley acquisition last year, should be good!

It also feels good when you get a player a few other clubs wanted  8)
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Dons on November 05, 2014, 10:51:04 AM
Quote from: Purple 77 on November 05, 2014, 09:48:39 AM
Quote from: Ringo on November 05, 2014, 09:22:42 AM
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2014-11-05/newtons-new-start

Ben Newton joins the Dees.  Not sure what to make of this but will add to the Dees work around the stoppages.

I liken this to our Riley acquisition last year, should be good!

It also feels good when you get a player a few other clubs wanted  8)

More support for Jones, Tyson and Viney in close might see these guys spend a bit of time resting forward and becoming dangerous there. Could also be insurance if Trengrove never fully recovers.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Noz on November 05, 2014, 07:04:54 PM
Melbourne's rebuild is now complete all they needed was 84 kilos of Newt.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Nige on November 05, 2014, 10:05:03 PM
Collingwood has announced some number changes to their list for season 2015.

Jamie Elliott - #19 to #5
Tom Langdon - #41 to #8
Jesse White - #18 to #9
Matthew Scharenberg - #35 to #12
Jonathan Marsh - # 46 to #17
Travis Varcoe - #18
Levi Greenwood - #19
Nathan Freeman - # 39 to #21
Jack Crisp - #25
Darcy Moore - #30
Mason Cox - #46

Collingwood's first draft pick in this month's draft will wear the number 35 as per tradition the last few years.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Ricochet on November 07, 2014, 06:39:20 PM
Bullies have agreed to release Jason Tutt to the Blues
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Purple 77 on November 07, 2014, 06:51:34 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on November 07, 2014, 06:39:20 PM
Bullies have agreed to release Jason Tutt to the Blues

Good for the WXVs  8)
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Nige on November 11, 2014, 12:06:44 PM
Didn't wanna make a separate thread, so I'm just gonna leave this here.  :P

http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/afl-draft-regrets-which-stars-could-have-been-at-your-club/story-fngeflq8-1227119198362
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Ricochet on November 11, 2014, 05:02:48 PM
The bulldogs have delisted Daniel Pearce, but has committed to rookie drafting him
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Ricochet on November 12, 2014, 02:17:34 PM
Hawks have made a late list change, delisting Sam Grimley. but will de-draft him as a rookie.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Mr.Craig on November 12, 2014, 04:15:25 PM
I gather that allows us to use Pick 50 on a draftee now which is good.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Nige on November 12, 2014, 04:23:44 PM
Quote from: Mr.Craig on November 12, 2014, 04:15:25 PM
I gather that allows us to use Pick 50 on a draftee now which is good.
Seems to be a lot of this going on. It's happened with a number of players now (Arnot, Pearce, Grimley... maybe a couple before I can't remember?) in recent days.

Looks like clubs rightfully rate the draft.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Mr.Craig on November 12, 2014, 04:30:01 PM
Re Dom Barry walking, it must be so tough coming from APY to Melbourne. They might as well be on different planets.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: JBs-Hawks on November 12, 2014, 06:53:59 PM
Quote from: Mr.Craig on November 12, 2014, 04:30:01 PM
Re Dom Barry walking, it must be so tough coming from APY to Melbourne. They might as well be on different planets.

What happened with Barry?
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Ricochet on November 12, 2014, 06:55:16 PM
Quote from: JBs-Hawks on November 12, 2014, 06:53:59 PM
Quote from: Mr.Craig on November 12, 2014, 04:30:01 PM
Re Dom Barry walking, it must be so tough coming from APY to Melbourne. They might as well be on different planets.

What happened with Barry?
Quit the club today man and went home.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: stew42 on November 12, 2014, 09:38:12 PM
Really can't blame him, left his home and culture when he was 15-ish to do a football scholarship with the tosspots at St Pats (it's alright, I was at a rival Ballarat school :P ). Good luck to the man
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: shaker on November 13, 2014, 11:45:34 AM
The rigors of AFL is not for everyone just opens up a spot for another lucky young bloke
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Ricochet on November 13, 2014, 07:04:39 PM
Reports that GWS made a late play at Jeremy Howe. Offered N7 and a contract of 650k a year for 5 years
But it was too late in the trade period to make the deal

Howe has one year left on his contract and is expected to hold off until next year
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: ADEZ on November 13, 2014, 07:10:11 PM
Yeah I heard that :o absolutely ridiculous
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Big Mac on November 13, 2014, 07:24:12 PM
Quote from: ADEZ on November 13, 2014, 07:10:11 PM
Yeah I heard that :o absolutely ridiculous

marquee player?
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Jroo on November 13, 2014, 07:28:59 PM
Howe could be crazy not to take that.
Pick 7 would've been pretty good compo for the Dees, too.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Ziplock on November 13, 2014, 08:28:45 PM
The point would be (obviously) to try to market the shower out of his ridiculous marks.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Purple 77 on November 13, 2014, 08:37:20 PM
I did hear about that... Had mixed feelings. Howe was one of, if not the only, reason I watched melbourne for a couple of years, and he is a good player... but Pick 7 is a high price.

I would have been disappointed I think, if he left. Regardless of the compensation.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: JBs-Hawks on November 13, 2014, 08:37:26 PM
Quote from: JROO8 on November 13, 2014, 07:28:59 PM
Howe could be crazy not to take that.
Pick 7 would've been pretty good compo for the Dees, too.

Howe is worth more than pick 7
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Noz on November 13, 2014, 08:51:12 PM
Take Howe out of the Melbourne footy club and they will loose their remaining 20 members.

The only reason anyone watches a Melbourne game is to see Jeremy Howe take hangers and if were lucky Huddo will utter his famous phase "Hoooooowwwwweeeeeee did he do that"
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Tominator on November 14, 2014, 11:59:47 AM
about Dom Barry walking ... might be opening a can of worms here but remember two years ago when Matt Rendell suggested recruiters should be cautious with drafting Aboriginal players who'd come from remote communities?

Then the Political Correctness bandwagon went into overdrive and branded Rendell a racist. Trigg (with pressure from Demetriou) then sacked him. Crows lost a great recruiter, and Rendell's reputation was tarnished.

But I gotta say, the man was right. More Aboriginal players seem to be walking because they miss their culture, and I kinda feel for them because it must be very hard for them to change their lives just for footy

Having said that Rendell deserves an apology.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: shaker on November 14, 2014, 12:12:22 PM
Quote from: Tominator on November 14, 2014, 11:59:47 AM
about Dom Barry walking ... might be opening a can of worms here but remember two years ago when Matt Rendell suggested recruiters should be cautious with drafting Aboriginal players who'd come from remote communities?

Then the Political Correctness bandwagon went into overdrive and branded Rendell a racist. Trigg (with pressure from Demetriou) then sacked him. Crows lost a great recruiter, and Rendell's reputation was tarnished.

But I gotta say, the man was right. More Aboriginal players seem to be walking because they miss their culture, and I kinda feel for them because it must be very hard for them to change their lives just for footy

Having said that Rendell deserves an apology.

That was a real beat up and he does deserve an apology and I think he was correct as well but I do not feel sorry for these boys , they have been given the opportunity of a lifetime and if they decide they would rather be in there homeland that is fine but no sympathy that is just a life choice .
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Mailman the 2nd on November 14, 2014, 12:23:23 PM
You're still racially profiling a whole ethnic group as one that you shouldn't draft, that's still crossing the line.

Rendell wasn't racist (I assume he meant that it could get to a point where remote Indigenous players wouldnt get drafted).
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: shaker on November 14, 2014, 12:44:57 PM
Quote from: Mailman the 2nd on November 14, 2014, 12:23:23 PM
You're still racially profiling a whole ethnic group as one that you shouldn't draft, that's still crossing the line.

Rendell wasn't racist (I assume he meant that it could get to a point where remote Indigenous players wouldnt get drafted).

The worst thing that happened was the media got hold of it and like usual it was blown way out of proportion , sad but that's the world we live in .
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Nige on November 14, 2014, 05:20:40 PM
Matt Lappin has joined the Suns as a development coach.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Ziplock on November 16, 2014, 02:07:58 AM
Quote from: shaker on November 14, 2014, 12:12:22 PM
Quote from: Tominator on November 14, 2014, 11:59:47 AM
about Dom Barry walking ... might be opening a can of worms here but remember two years ago when Matt Rendell suggested recruiters should be cautious with drafting Aboriginal players who'd come from remote communities?

Then the Political Correctness bandwagon went into overdrive and branded Rendell a racist. Trigg (with pressure from Demetriou) then sacked him. Crows lost a great recruiter, and Rendell's reputation was tarnished.

But I gotta say, the man was right. More Aboriginal players seem to be walking because they miss their culture, and I kinda feel for them because it must be very hard for them to change their lives just for footy

Having said that Rendell deserves an apology.

That was a real beat up and he does deserve an apology and I think he was correct as well but I do not feel sorry for these boys , they have been given the opportunity of a lifetime and if they decide they would rather be in there homeland that is fine but no sympathy that is just a life choice .
Quote from: Mailman the 2nd on November 14, 2014, 12:23:23 PM
You're still racially profiling a whole ethnic group as one that you shouldn't draft, that's still crossing the line.

Rendell wasn't racist (I assume he meant that it could get to a point where remote Indigenous players wouldnt get drafted).

you get heaps of people walking out of clubs all the time because of home sickness, indigenous or not. Most of them though come from areas where they can go to other clubs- people from remote areas/ places without AFL teams don't have that option... a higher portion of indigenous players may be from these remote areas, but if you broke it down you'd probably find the same ratio of non-indigenous people leaving their clubs for home sickness.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Mat0369 on November 16, 2014, 03:30:05 AM
He also said that if you do draft these kids you need to invest more time in them and create an environment that caters to them. So you have to keep them on a list for longer then 2 years. His example was Milera's brother that Adelaide delisted after 1 or 2 seasons from memory.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Grazz on November 18, 2014, 12:35:46 AM
Quote from: Ziplock on November 16, 2014, 02:07:58 AM
Quote from: shaker on November 14, 2014, 12:12:22 PM
Quote from: Tominator on November 14, 2014, 11:59:47 AM
about Dom Barry walking ... might be opening a can of worms here but remember two years ago when Matt Rendell suggested recruiters should be cautious with drafting Aboriginal players who'd come from remote communities?

Then the Political Correctness bandwagon went into overdrive and branded Rendell a racist. Trigg (with pressure from Demetriou) then sacked him. Crows lost a great recruiter, and Rendell's reputation was tarnished.

But I gotta say, the man was right. More Aboriginal players seem to be walking because they miss their culture, and I kinda feel for them because it must be very hard for them to change their lives just for footy

Having said that Rendell deserves an apology.

That was a real beat up and he does deserve an apology and I think he was correct as well but I do not feel sorry for these boys , they have been given the opportunity of a lifetime and if they decide they would rather be in there homeland that is fine but no sympathy that is just a life choice .
Quote from: Mailman the 2nd on November 14, 2014, 12:23:23 PM
You're still racially profiling a whole ethnic group as one that you shouldn't draft, that's still crossing the line.

Rendell wasn't racist (I assume he meant that it could get to a point where remote Indigenous players wouldnt get drafted).

you get heaps of people walking out of clubs all the time because of home sickness, indigenous or not. Most of them though come from areas where they can go to other clubs- people from remote areas/ places without AFL teams don't have that option... a higher portion of indigenous players may be from these remote areas, but if you broke it down you'd probably find the same ratio of non-indigenous people leaving their clubs for home sickness.

Reckon youd be about right to zip.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Ringo on November 18, 2014, 12:44:20 PM
Clubs probably need to spend more on player welfare.  Brisbane did that this year after the 5 go home boys of last year and are reaping some benefits.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Mr.Craig on November 19, 2014, 01:47:41 PM
Carlton re-sign Johnson and Wood. The final piece of the premiership puzzle. :P
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Nige on November 19, 2014, 01:49:21 PM
Quote from: Mr.Craig on November 19, 2014, 01:47:41 PM
Carlton re-sign Johnson and Wood. The final piece of the premiership puzzle. :P
Alright, so anything less than a premiership is a failure and Mick is done.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Mr.Craig on November 19, 2014, 01:54:27 PM
Quote from: Nige on November 19, 2014, 01:49:21 PM
Quote from: Mr.Craig on November 19, 2014, 01:47:41 PM
Carlton re-sign Johnson and Wood. The final piece of the premiership puzzle. :P
Alright, so anything less than a premiership is a failure and Mick is done.

Mick was done a while ago.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Nige on November 19, 2014, 01:58:28 PM
Quote from: Mr.Craig on November 19, 2014, 01:54:27 PM
Quote from: Nige on November 19, 2014, 01:49:21 PM
Quote from: Mr.Craig on November 19, 2014, 01:47:41 PM
Carlton re-sign Johnson and Wood. The final piece of the premiership puzzle. :P
Alright, so anything less than a premiership is a failure and Mick is done.

Mick was done a while ago.
True, but I meant finally and officially. :P
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Ricochet on November 20, 2014, 10:34:21 AM
www.afl.com.au/news/2014-11-20/lucas-set-for-eagles-lifeline

A low risk gamble for WCE
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Mr.Craig on November 20, 2014, 01:36:04 PM
Seems like a good get.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: SydneyRox on November 20, 2014, 01:48:59 PM
Low risk is right. Get a kid who has had a few years development, has shown he has talent, and should have a bunch of desire to prove himself, they should also get him for next to nothing since hardly anyone else is interested.

Winning combination?
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: stew42 on November 21, 2014, 12:41:48 AM
Waits for Vinny...  ;D

11...
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Vinny on November 22, 2014, 11:52:47 PM
Haha I don't care, I'm happy we got rid of him but would have been nice to have gotten something for him. Now I just hope he does well for my BXV. :P
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Ricochet on December 02, 2014, 03:18:10 PM
Wow

http://www.afl.com.au/news/2014-12-02/krakouer-to-return-to-port?utm_medium=RSS

PORT Adelaide is a chance to re-draft former half-forward Nathan Krakouer at Wednesday morning's rookie draft, after he produced an impressive season for the Magpies in the SANFL.

Krakouer, 26, walked out on the Power in 2010 with just 40 games to his name and joined Gold Coast for its first AFL season.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Jroo on December 02, 2014, 04:00:40 PM
 :o
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Ricochet on December 02, 2014, 06:45:16 PM
Apparently Saints will pickup Ahmed Saad according to Sam McCLure
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Bill Manspeaker on December 02, 2014, 07:11:53 PM
I'd be Haappy to welcome Saad back!
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Big Mac on December 02, 2014, 07:21:02 PM
Quote from: Bill Manspeaker on December 02, 2014, 07:11:53 PM
I'd be Haappy to welcome Saad back!

horrible
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Bully on December 02, 2014, 07:24:39 PM
Quote from: Bill Manspeaker on December 02, 2014, 07:11:53 PM
I'd be Haappy to welcome Saad back!

The other Saad deserves a shot, his VFL form was top shelf.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Nige on December 02, 2014, 07:27:34 PM
It would be good to see them both get picked up.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: meow meow on August 14, 2015, 05:19:51 PM
Wilbur + a pick for Stefan.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Pkbaldy on August 14, 2015, 06:10:31 PM
Spud Barrett has said Saints are looking at Jake Carlilse and Harley Bennell. Obviously  cant have them both. But would be nice!
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: kilbluff1985 on August 14, 2015, 06:14:04 PM
Quote from: Pkbaldy on August 14, 2015, 06:10:31 PM
Spud Barrett has said Saints are looking at Jake Carlilse and Harley Bennell. Obviously  cant have them both. But would be nice!

why not? can trade future picks remember
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Nige on August 14, 2015, 06:18:46 PM
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on August 14, 2015, 06:14:04 PM
Quote from: Pkbaldy on August 14, 2015, 06:10:31 PM
Spud Barrett has said Saints are looking at Jake Carlilse and Harley Bennell. Obviously  cant have them both. But would be nice!

why not? can trade future picks remember
This isn't XVs.  :P
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Pkbaldy on August 14, 2015, 06:28:00 PM
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on August 14, 2015, 06:14:04 PM
Quote from: Pkbaldy on August 14, 2015, 06:10:31 PM
Spud Barrett has said Saints are looking at Jake Carlilse and Harley Bennell. Obviously  cant have them both. But would be nice!

why not? can trade future picks remember

Yeah I know, but I know Bennell will cost second rounder this year or next and second rounder this year or next... And probably vise versa for Carlilse... So no first or second rounder for 2 years haha.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: SydneyRox on August 14, 2015, 07:49:53 PM
Quote from: meow meow on August 14, 2015, 05:19:51 PM
Wilbur + a pick for Stefan.

2nd round? it is early 2nd
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: kilbluff1985 on August 14, 2015, 08:39:49 PM
any mock drafts around yet with description of players?
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: ADEZ on August 15, 2015, 12:31:38 PM
Quote from: meow meow on August 14, 2015, 05:19:51 PM
Wilbur + a pick for Stefan.

Personally don't think Minson is that far ahead of Trent West and West is 2 years younger, plus Archie Smith seemingly is developing nicely.

Still think Stef will stay but maybe to Geelong for Josh Walker (I personally quite like him and is only 22) and second round would probably be more favourable for Lions and if Geelong also snare Danger, retain Motlop and get Clark fit they'll be challenging again IMO

Then again, it's tough to judge the value of ruckmen
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Pkbaldy on August 15, 2015, 12:39:30 PM
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on August 14, 2015, 08:39:49 PM
any mock drafts around yet with description of players?

Only on BF. I'm too lazy to do descriptions haha...
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: kilbluff1985 on August 15, 2015, 01:05:58 PM
Quote from: Pkbaldy on August 15, 2015, 12:39:30 PM
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on August 14, 2015, 08:39:49 PM
any mock drafts around yet with description of players?

Only on BF. I'm too lazy to do descriptions haha...

got a link? i dont use BF
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: SydneyRox on August 16, 2015, 09:11:44 PM
I get a feeling from this weekend the Swan have their eye on someone.

The noise about trade restrictions hasnt been there all year. Reckon they may be making a play for someone

Ruckman like Smith makes the most amount of sense
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: GoLions on August 19, 2015, 08:51:50 PM
Apparently Big Stefan is close to signing a long term deal according to Greg Swann
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Grazz on August 19, 2015, 08:54:53 PM
Quote from: GoLions on August 19, 2015, 08:51:50 PM
Apparently Big Stefan is close to signing a long term deal according to Greg Swann

Hmmm thats interesting considering what we've heard lately about him wanting to return to Vic, Hope he does for your mob
be a big loss to lose him he's been great in 2014-15.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Toga on August 19, 2015, 09:05:29 PM
And apparently Jake Carlisle has been heard saying fairly negative things about Essendon to the tune of he can't wait until he can leave the club at the end of the season.

So where does he go?
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Pkbaldy on August 19, 2015, 09:16:15 PM
Quote from: Toga on August 19, 2015, 09:05:29 PM
And apparently Jake Carlisle has been heard saying fairly negative things about Essendon to the tune of he can't wait until he can leave the club at the end of the season.

So where does he go?

I'm hoping the Saints will have a go at him. We have the $$ and have the position just for him (CHB).
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Grazz on August 19, 2015, 09:18:18 PM
Quote from: Toga on August 19, 2015, 09:05:29 PM
And apparently Jake Carlisle has been heard saying fairly negative things about Essendon to the tune of he can't wait until he can leave the club at the end of the season.

So where does he go?

He's not bad in defence i reckon a few teams would be interested.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Toga on August 19, 2015, 10:31:00 PM
Quote from: Pkbaldy on August 19, 2015, 09:16:15 PM
Quote from: Toga on August 19, 2015, 09:05:29 PM
And apparently Jake Carlisle has been heard saying fairly negative things about Essendon to the tune of he can't wait until he can leave the club at the end of the season.

So where does he go?

I'm hoping the Saints will have a go at him. We have the $$ and have the position just for him (CHB).

Saints could be a very good fit for him.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Ringo on August 20, 2015, 08:44:52 AM
Quote from: Toga on August 19, 2015, 10:31:00 PM
Quote from: Pkbaldy on August 19, 2015, 09:16:15 PM
Quote from: Toga on August 19, 2015, 09:05:29 PM
And apparently Jake Carlisle has been heard saying fairly negative things about Essendon to the tune of he can't wait until he can leave the club at the end of the season.

So where does he go?

I'm hoping the Saints will have a go at him. We have the $$ and have the position just for him (CHB).

Saints could be a very good fit for him.
Would not be a bad forward option for Brisbane for a couple of years whilst Freeman, Close and Schache!! develop further.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Toga on August 20, 2015, 10:42:31 AM
Quote from: Ringo on August 20, 2015, 08:44:52 AM
Would not be a bad forward option for Brisbane for a couple of years whilst Freeman, Close and Schache!! develop further.

It seems pretty obvious that Carlisle plays his best footy as a back though so not sure the lure of playing forward would do much for him tbh. Apparently his preference is to stay in Victoria as well.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Toga on August 20, 2015, 10:43:24 AM
Henderson has played his last game as a Blue. Geelong have to be the frontrunners for him by all reports, would anyone else be in the chase?
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Pkbaldy on August 20, 2015, 10:49:19 AM
Quote from: Toga on August 20, 2015, 10:43:24 AM
Henderson has played his last game as a Blue. Geelong have to be the frontrunners for him by all reports, would anyone else be in the chase?

Surely Geelong can't get Danger Scooter and Henderson??

Doggies could be a chance, they'll have a go at him or Carlilse.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: The_Captain on August 20, 2015, 11:26:05 AM
Quote from: Pkbaldy on August 20, 2015, 10:49:19 AM
Quote from: Toga on August 20, 2015, 10:43:24 AM
Henderson has played his last game as a Blue. Geelong have to be the frontrunners for him by all reports, would anyone else be in the chase?

Surely Geelong can't get Danger Scooter and Henderson??

Doggies could be a chance, they'll have a go at him or Carlilse.

salary cap should be freeing up. Lots of retirements past few years and guys like johnson, kelly and bartel surely getting pay reductions now...

imo scooter and hendersom dont  deserve more than 300k a year but im presuming both will want a little more. Not sure what they will need to fork out for danger but....

Then there is the otjher issue of what they need to give up to get them.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Big Mac on August 21, 2015, 12:35:13 AM
Quote from: The_Captain on August 20, 2015, 11:26:05 AM
Quote from: Pkbaldy on August 20, 2015, 10:49:19 AM
Quote from: Toga on August 20, 2015, 10:43:24 AM
Henderson has played his last game as a Blue. Geelong have to be the frontrunners for him by all reports, would anyone else be in the chase?

Surely Geelong can't get Danger Scooter and Henderson??

Doggies could be a chance, they'll have a go at him or Carlilse.

salary cap should be freeing up. Lots of retirements past few years and guys like johnson, kelly and bartel surely getting pay reductions now...

imo scooter and hendersom dont  deserve more than 300k a year but im presuming both will want a little more. Not sure what they will need to fork out for danger but....

Then there is the otjher issue of what they need to give up to get them.

Wouldn't need to give up anything for Scooter and Danger as they are both free agents
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Nige on August 25, 2015, 12:31:52 PM
Dogs chasing Kreuzer.

Dees chasing Tom T Lynch.

Hawthorn chasing The Chad.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Ricochet on August 25, 2015, 12:46:53 PM
Quote from: Nige on August 25, 2015, 12:31:52 PM
Hawthorn chasing The Chad.
Rioli + Wingard :o
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: elephants on August 25, 2015, 12:54:09 PM
Quote from: Nige on August 25, 2015, 12:31:52 PM
Hawthorn chasing The Chad.

Top work from Hodgey on the recruitment plan!

Clarko to Hodge after the game: "Hodgey, if you kill him then he can't play for us next season."
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Toga on August 25, 2015, 02:25:08 PM
Quote from: Nige on August 25, 2015, 12:31:52 PM
Hawthorn chasing The Chad.

Huge news! The Hawks keep on surprising us don't they, would be unreal if they could pull that off
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: TomK on August 25, 2015, 03:05:02 PM
Highly doubt Wingard would ever leave the Power.

Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Grazz on August 25, 2015, 03:13:46 PM
Quote from: TomK on August 25, 2015, 03:05:02 PM
Highly doubt Wingard would ever leave the Power.

Can't see it myself either. The fact it's about Hawthorn makes it a little scarey though haha.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Rusty00 on August 25, 2015, 09:39:15 PM
Quote from: Nige on August 25, 2015, 12:31:52 PM
Hawthorn chasing The Chad.
Awaits TBag to enter the conversation..........
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Ricochet on September 01, 2015, 05:42:12 PM
AFL reporting that Jack Redden has told Brisbane he wants to be traded
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Big Mac on September 01, 2015, 05:45:33 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on September 01, 2015, 05:42:12 PM
AFL reporting that Jack Redden has told Brisbane he wants to be traded

Wouldn't mind him at the dees

Probably worth pick 15-20
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Holz on September 01, 2015, 05:54:21 PM
Quote from: Big  Mac on September 01, 2015, 05:45:33 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on September 01, 2015, 05:42:12 PM
AFL reporting that Jack Redden has told Brisbane he wants to be traded

Wouldn't mind him at the dees

Probably worth pick 15-20

see this is what I don't understand. The alf seems to massively overate picks. I think he is worth your first pick easy.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: tbagrocks on September 01, 2015, 05:58:03 PM
Quote from: Big  Mac link=topic=9 ;D8830.msg1669650#msg1669650 date=1441093533
Quote from: Ricochet on September 01, 2015, 05:42:12 PM
AFL reporting that Jack Redden has told Brisbane he wants to be traded

Wouldn't mind him at the dees

Probably worth pick 15-20
Bring another of my Glenelg boys back to Adelaide ;D
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: TomK on September 01, 2015, 06:00:11 PM
I'd love Redden but only if Danger leaves. If he stays, I'd rather us use our first pick on trying to pick up Scharenberg.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: RaisyDaisy on September 01, 2015, 06:05:15 PM
Quote from: Holz on September 01, 2015, 05:54:21 PM
see this is what I don't understand. The alf seems to massively overate picks. I think he is worth your first pick easy.

Agree. Redden is a gun

Didn't the Dees give up Pick 2 for Tyson? Redden is better than Tyson and still young. 1st round pick for sure
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: kilbluff1985 on September 01, 2015, 06:06:34 PM
Quote from: TomK on September 01, 2015, 06:00:11 PM
I'd love Redden but only if Danger leaves. If he stays, I'd rather us use our first pick on trying to pick up Scharenberg.

havent you got enough running defenders
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Purple 77 on September 01, 2015, 06:24:15 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on September 01, 2015, 06:05:15 PM
Quote from: Holz on September 01, 2015, 05:54:21 PM
see this is what I don't understand. The alf seems to massively overate picks. I think he is worth your first pick easy.

Agree. Redden is a gun

Didn't the Dees give up Pick 2 for Tyson? Redden is better than Tyson and still young. 1st round pick for sure

Pick 2 for Tyson + Pick 9 (and other details)
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: TomK on September 01, 2015, 06:29:04 PM
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on September 01, 2015, 06:06:34 PM
Quote from: TomK on September 01, 2015, 06:00:11 PM
I'd love Redden but only if Danger leaves. If he stays, I'd rather us use our first pick on trying to pick up Scharenberg.

havent you got enough running defenders
A good amount but Shaz to replace Henderson would be ideal.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Big Mac on September 01, 2015, 07:15:19 PM
Quote from: Holz on September 01, 2015, 05:54:21 PM
Quote from: Big  Mac on September 01, 2015, 05:45:33 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on September 01, 2015, 05:42:12 PM
AFL reporting that Jack Redden has told Brisbane he wants to be traded

Wouldn't mind him at the dees

Probably worth pick 15-20

see this is what I don't understand. The alf seems to massively overate picks. I think he is worth your first pick easy.

Definitely not worth our first pick

Don't think he will ever be more than a solid midfielder, not quick and disposal isn't great. The dees need pace and players who can actually hit targets. Yes, another ready made mid would be handy, but i'd be confident our first rounder could net us a player better than Redden in the long run
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Ricochet on September 01, 2015, 09:40:44 PM
Yeh Redden gets slightly overrated because he's a good fantasy scorer, but he really isn't that damaging as a midfielder. I don't think they'll get a first rounder for him. Maybe a late one
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: elephants on September 02, 2015, 11:58:04 AM
His inside work shouldn't be underrated though.

By comparison, Priddis is very slow and his disposal is far from fantastic (although it has improved substantially under Simpson imo). Every team needs extractors to get the ball to the elite users on the outside.

I'd say he'd be worth a mid first round pick though.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: MC on September 02, 2015, 10:08:16 PM
Can anyone foresee a 3-way trade between the Pies/GWS/Crows?

Crows get: Sharenberg for a first rounder
GWS get: 2 x first rounders (to secure their academy players) for Treloar
Pies get: Treloar for 2 x first round picks


Does this seem fair?
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Holz on September 03, 2015, 10:13:00 AM
Quote from: MC on September 02, 2015, 10:08:16 PM
Can anyone foresee a 3-way trade between the Pies/GWS/Crows?

Crows get: Sharenberg for a first rounder
GWS get: 2 x first rounders (to secure their academy players) for Treloar
Pies get: Treloar for 2 x first round picks


Does this seem fair?

by AFL standards yes. Crows come off very very well in that deal.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Grazz on September 03, 2015, 04:44:10 PM
Quote from: MC on September 02, 2015, 10:08:16 PM
Can anyone foresee a 3-way trade between the Pies/GWS/Crows?

Crows get: Sharenberg for a first rounder
GWS get: 2 x first rounders (to secure their academy players) for Treloar
Pies get: Treloar for 2 x first round picks


Does this seem fair?

Seems pretty fair to me mate.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: meow meow on September 03, 2015, 04:55:55 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on September 01, 2015, 06:05:15 PM
Quote from: Holz on September 01, 2015, 05:54:21 PM
see this is what I don't understand. The alf seems to massively overate picks. I think he is worth your first pick easy.

Agree. Redden is a gun

Didn't the Dees give up Pick 2 for Tyson? Redden is better than Tyson and still young. 1st round pick for sure

Pick 2 for Tyson wasn't the only part of the trade. They also got pick 9 (Salem) out of it.

Redden is an average player who just happens to find himself in a position on the ground that makes his stats look good. As a player he's no better than Koby Stevens (who has started to score/produce stats similiar to Redden when given the same role) and we got him with a pick in the 20's. A pick in the late teens/early 20's should be enough.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: RaisyDaisy on September 03, 2015, 04:57:54 PM
Quote from: meow meow on September 03, 2015, 04:55:55 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on September 01, 2015, 06:05:15 PM
Quote from: Holz on September 01, 2015, 05:54:21 PM
see this is what I don't understand. The alf seems to massively overate picks. I think he is worth your first pick easy.

Agree. Redden is a gun

Didn't the Dees give up Pick 2 for Tyson? Redden is better than Tyson and still young. 1st round pick for sure

Pick 2 for Tyson wasn't the only part of the trade. They also got pick 9 (Salem) out of it.

Redden is an average player who just happens to find himself in a position on the ground that makes his stats look good. As a player he's no better than Koby Stevens (who has started to score/produce stats similiar to Redden when given the same role) and we got him with a pick in the 20's. A pick in the late teens/early 20's should be enough.

Yeah that sounds about right. I know Redden doesn't exactly ooze class, but he kind of has that Daniel Cross feel about him - Wont dominate and wins games off his own boot, but consistently produces within his limits
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: AaronKirk on September 03, 2015, 06:52:55 PM
Quote from: Grazz on September 03, 2015, 04:44:10 PM
Quote from: MC on September 02, 2015, 10:08:16 PM
Can anyone foresee a 3-way trade between the Pies/GWS/Crows?

Crows get: Sharenberg for a first rounder
GWS get: 2 x first rounders (to secure their academy players) for Treloar
Pies get: Treloar for 2 x first round picks


Does this seem fair?

Seems pretty fair to me mate.

The scenario above is not that far-fetched.

Could be Richmond that get Treloar.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Nige on September 04, 2015, 02:48:42 PM
The latest rumour is Charlie Dixon to sign 5 years 3.5M deal with Port.  :o
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Ringo on September 04, 2015, 03:08:49 PM
Sam Mayes the latest Lion rumoured to be considering asking for a trade. Rumours still persist about Stef Martin wanting out as well.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Grazz on September 04, 2015, 03:15:39 PM
Quote from: Ringo on September 04, 2015, 03:08:49 PM
Sam Mayes the latest Lion rumoured to be considering asking for a trade. Rumours still persist about Stef Martin wanting out as well.

You must be beside yourself mate with all the rumours surrounding your club, feel for ya.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Ringo on September 04, 2015, 03:44:58 PM
Quote from: Grazz on September 04, 2015, 03:15:39 PM
Quote from: Ringo on September 04, 2015, 03:08:49 PM
Sam Mayes the latest Lion rumoured to be considering asking for a trade. Rumours still persist about Stef Martin wanting out as well.

You must be beside yourself mate with all the rumours surrounding your club, feel for ya.
To be expected though with only winning 3 matches.  There are a few more floating around but know they are just that. Hard to read whether the discontent is with Leppas coaching style or Rockys abrasiveness as Captain. Can read between the line in Reddos conference that issue is with Leppa but obviously being denied.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Big Mac on September 04, 2015, 05:26:12 PM
Quote from: Ringo on September 04, 2015, 03:44:58 PM
Quote from: Grazz on September 04, 2015, 03:15:39 PM
Quote from: Ringo on September 04, 2015, 03:08:49 PM
Sam Mayes the latest Lion rumoured to be considering asking for a trade. Rumours still persist about Stef Martin wanting out as well.

You must be beside yourself mate with all the rumours surrounding your club, feel for ya.
To be expected though with only winning 3 matches.  There are a few more floating around but know they are just that. Hard to read whether the discontent is with Leppas coaching style or Rockys abrasiveness as Captain. Can read between the line in Reddos conference that issue is with Leppa but obviously being denied.

Honestly I don't really think the trade period is going to be as bad for the Lions as the media seems to suggest

Feels like they are just naming new Brisbane players everyday just to get a story
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: The_Captain on September 04, 2015, 05:30:36 PM
Rumour has it Ashley sampi is looking to make a comeback.... And Essendon are licking their lips as they are the front runners to secure this specimen.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: kilbluff1985 on September 07, 2015, 08:50:47 PM
http://www.3aw.com.au/news/collingwood-leading-race-to-sign-carltons-matthew-kreuzer-says-sam-scoop-mcclure-20150907-gjh6o0.html

they reckon Treloar will announce a trade request tomorrow
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Ringo on September 07, 2015, 09:02:05 PM
here it is for you

http://www.afl.com.au/news/2015-09-07/treloar-to-ask-for-trade
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: meow meow on September 08, 2015, 03:08:04 PM
Kreuzer has had a medical at the Dogs.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: blue on September 08, 2015, 03:25:41 PM
Quote from: meow meow on September 08, 2015, 03:08:04 PM
Kreuzer has had a medical at the Dogs.
Meow being a doggies man, in your opinion what do you think is going to happen with will minson, even if you don't get Kreuzer surly he will ask to get traded. Is he still under contract?
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Ringo on September 08, 2015, 03:47:24 PM
Another rumour from Lions is Josh Green maybe to Carlton to reunite with his Clarence Coach Bolton.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: meow meow on September 08, 2015, 04:38:16 PM
Quote from: blue on September 08, 2015, 03:25:41 PM
Quote from: meow meow on September 08, 2015, 03:08:04 PM
Kreuzer has had a medical at the Dogs.
Meow being a doggies man, in your opinion what do you think is going to happen with will minson, even if you don't get Kreuzer surly he will ask to get traded. Is he still under contract?

One year left on his contract but so was Cooney and we came to a mutual agreement. We'll look to trade him but I don't know who'd be interested. Probably not many clubs, if any.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: AaronKirk on September 08, 2015, 05:40:40 PM
Quote from: blue on September 08, 2015, 03:25:41 PM
Quote from: meow meow on September 08, 2015, 03:08:04 PM
Kreuzer has had a medical at the Dogs.
Meow being a doggies man, in your opinion what do you think is going to happen with will minson, even if you don't get Kreuzer surly he will ask to get traded. Is he still under contract?

Kreuzer's management also met with Richmond recruiters yesterday.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Nige on September 08, 2015, 10:05:31 PM
According to 3AW, the Pies are offering their first rounder and Witts to the Giants and Richmond are offering their first round pick of 2015 and 2016.

Treloar wants to go to the Pies and there has been talk of the Giants picking up another ruck (Witts is a NSW boy) so I'm kinda worried now.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Ringo on September 09, 2015, 09:44:47 AM
Fremantle rumoured to have entered the race for Matthew Leuenberger.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Ricochet on September 09, 2015, 10:55:22 AM
2015 AFL Season ‏@theafloffseason
The Western Bulldogs are not interested in recruiting Carlton's Matthew Kreuzer or Essendon's Jake Carlisle.

- The Age
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Ricochet on September 09, 2015, 11:09:01 AM
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2015-09-09/bomber-melksham-weighing-up-his-options

QuoteOUT-OF-CONTRACT Essendon midfielder Jake Melksham is weighing up his future at the club after struggling to reach top form this year.

AFL.com.au understands the 24-year-old has been recently offered a new two-year deal by the Bombers through to the end of 2017, but is believed to be considering a fresh start elsewhere.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: kilbluff1985 on September 09, 2015, 11:43:54 AM
Quote from: Ricochet on September 09, 2015, 11:09:01 AM
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2015-09-09/bomber-melksham-weighing-up-his-options

QuoteOUT-OF-CONTRACT Essendon midfielder Jake Melksham is weighing up his future at the club after struggling to reach top form this year.

AFL.com.au understands the 24-year-old has been recently offered a new two-year deal by the Bombers through to the end of 2017, but is believed to be considering a fresh start elsewhere.

meh has never gotten out of c grade material he can do whatever
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: silloc on September 09, 2015, 12:33:40 PM
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on September 09, 2015, 11:43:54 AM
Quote from: Ricochet on September 09, 2015, 11:09:01 AM
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2015-09-09/bomber-melksham-weighing-up-his-options

QuoteOUT-OF-CONTRACT Essendon midfielder Jake Melksham is weighing up his future at the club after struggling to reach top form this year.

AFL.com.au understands the 24-year-old has been recently offered a new two-year deal by the Bombers through to the end of 2017, but is believed to be considering a fresh start elsewhere.

meh has never gotten out of c grade material he can do whatever

Only one out of contract who concerns me is Bags. (Stanton too, but I couldn't see him leaving)

Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: silloc on September 09, 2015, 01:09:31 PM
said this in an Essendon thread, but wanted everyone else's opinion.

"Also, pick 10-15 for Jake isn't really how it looks at the moment. with Saints (5 & 23), Carlton (1 & 19), North (11 & 29), as the most interested.

Does this seem fair; Carlisle Pick 22 -> for saints pick 5??"
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: My Chumps on September 09, 2015, 01:38:20 PM
Probably not - I understand Carlisle has potential but he's been pretty farking average over the last few years.

I'd say North's pick 11 would be your best bet
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: silloc on September 09, 2015, 01:43:18 PM
Quote from: My Chumps on September 09, 2015, 01:38:20 PM
Probably not - I understand Carlisle has potential but he's been pretty farking average over the last few years.

I'd say North's pick 11 would be your best bet

Only because he was being played out of position, I guess it'll come down to the clubs want.

He is a guaranteed All Australian defender.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Toga on September 09, 2015, 01:44:23 PM
Quote from: My Chumps on September 09, 2015, 01:38:20 PM
Probably not - I understand Carlisle has potential but he's been pretty farking average over the last few years.

I'd say North's pick 11 would be your best bet

Agree - North's Pick 11 would be more likely, or otherwise Pick 23 + a player from the Saints.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Pkbaldy on September 09, 2015, 01:47:07 PM
Quote from: silloc on September 09, 2015, 01:43:18 PM
Quote from: My Chumps on September 09, 2015, 01:38:20 PM
Probably not - I understand Carlisle has potential but he's been pretty farking average over the last few years.

I'd say North's pick 11 would be your best bet

Only because he was being played out of position, I guess it'll come down to the clubs want

I'm hoping on Saints to send Pick 6 to GC for Aaron Hall + 20 (Whatever that compo is), and than that Compo pick to Essendon for Carlilse.

Making it Pick 6 for Jake Carlilse + Aaron Hall. Seems fair.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Money Shot on September 09, 2015, 01:50:23 PM
Bell for pick 21 (Bris)
Henderson for pick 10 (Gee)
Menzel for 31 (Ade)
Yarran for 34 (Rich)

Kreuzer leaves we get pick 2
Pick 10 for Carslile

Do you reckon that's possible?
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: kilbluff1985 on September 09, 2015, 01:50:59 PM
do Cats need to trade anything for Hendo? i was thinking they give there 1st rounder for him we get that and Blues get Carlisle
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Money Shot on September 09, 2015, 01:54:08 PM
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on September 09, 2015, 01:50:59 PM
do Cats need to trade anything for Hendo? i was thinking they give there 1st rounder for him we get that and Blues get Carlisle
That sounds good!!
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Pkbaldy on September 09, 2015, 02:11:30 PM
Quote from: Money Shot on September 09, 2015, 01:50:23 PM
Bell for pick 21 (Bris)
Henderson for pick 10 (Gee)
Menzel for 39 (Freo)
Yarran for 34 (Richmond)

Kreuzer leaves we get pick 2
Pick 10 for Carslile

Do you reckon that's possible?

Why would that one happen?? O.o
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Money Shot on September 09, 2015, 02:13:11 PM
Quote from: Pkbaldy on September 09, 2015, 02:11:30 PM
Quote from: Money Shot on September 09, 2015, 01:50:23 PM
Bell for pick 21 (Bris)
Henderson for pick 10 (Gee)
Menzel for 39 (Freo)
Yarran for 34 (Richmond)

Kreuzer leaves we get pick 2
Pick 10 for Carslile

Do you reckon that's possible?

Why would that one happen?? O.o
I heard that Menzel wants to leave to Perth?
I may be wrong!
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: TomK on September 09, 2015, 02:16:04 PM
Menzel is coming to Adelaide
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Money Shot on September 09, 2015, 02:19:05 PM
Quote from: TomK on September 09, 2015, 02:16:04 PM
Menzel is coming to Adelaide
Really? Or just wishful thinking?? You already have Cameron and Betts ???
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: TomK on September 09, 2015, 02:26:10 PM
Quote from: Money Shot on September 09, 2015, 02:19:05 PM
Quote from: TomK on September 09, 2015, 02:16:04 PM
Menzel is coming to Adelaide
Really? Or just wishful thinking?? You already have Cameron and Betts ???
a bit of both, heard whispers but nothing concrete atm. He is apparently keen to come. I hope we get the deal done because I rate him.

True, but a forward line of Lynch, Walker, Menzel, Betts, Jenkins and Cameron is mouth watering.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Money Shot on September 09, 2015, 02:28:26 PM
Quote from: TomK on September 09, 2015, 02:26:10 PM
Quote from: Money Shot on September 09, 2015, 02:19:05 PM
Quote from: TomK on September 09, 2015, 02:16:04 PM
Menzel is coming to Adelaide
Really? Or just wishful thinking?? You already have Cameron and Betts ???
a bit of both, heard whispers but nothing concrete atm. He is apparently keen to come. I hope we get the deal done because I rate him.

True, but a forward line of Lynch, Walker, Menzel, Betts, Jenkins and Cameron is mouth watering.
I thought he was from W.A that makes sense then haha!
And yeah that will be one of the best In the game!

Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: silloc on September 09, 2015, 02:31:57 PM
Quote from: TomK on September 09, 2015, 02:26:10 PM
Quote from: Money Shot on September 09, 2015, 02:19:05 PM
Quote from: TomK on September 09, 2015, 02:16:04 PM
Menzel is coming to Adelaide
Really? Or just wishful thinking?? You already have Cameron and Betts ???
a bit of both, heard whispers but nothing concrete atm. He is apparently keen to come. I hope we get the deal done because I rate him.

True, but a forward line of Lynch, Walker, Menzel, Betts, Jenkins and Cameron is mouth watering.

Yeah, why the flower isn't your team 20x better
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: TomK on September 09, 2015, 02:36:15 PM
Quote from: silloc on September 09, 2015, 02:31:57 PM
Quote from: TomK on September 09, 2015, 02:26:10 PM
Quote from: Money Shot on September 09, 2015, 02:19:05 PM
Quote from: TomK on September 09, 2015, 02:16:04 PM
Menzel is coming to Adelaide
Really? Or just wishful thinking?? You already have Cameron and Betts ???
a bit of both, heard whispers but nothing concrete atm. He is apparently keen to come. I hope we get the deal done because I rate him.

True, but a forward line of Lynch, Walker, Menzel, Betts, Jenkins and Cameron is mouth watering.

Yeah, why the flower isn't your team 20x better
A young defence and a few midfielders not running both ways plays a part in that. Also having players turn the ball over in the defensive 50 doesn't help.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Grazz on September 09, 2015, 03:59:32 PM
Quote from: silloc on September 09, 2015, 02:31:57 PM
Quote from: TomK on September 09, 2015, 02:26:10 PM
Quote from: Money Shot on September 09, 2015, 02:19:05 PM
Quote from: TomK on September 09, 2015, 02:16:04 PM
Menzel is coming to Adelaide
Really? Or just wishful thinking?? You already have Cameron and Betts ???
a bit of both, heard whispers but nothing concrete atm. He is apparently keen to come. I hope we get the deal done because I rate him.

True, but a forward line of Lynch, Walker, Menzel, Betts, Jenkins and Cameron is mouth watering.

Yeah, why the flower isn't your team 20x better

For the best part of the year our delivery into that forward line has been C Grade at best. All to often we just bomb it in there with a hope for the best attitude.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: silloc on September 09, 2015, 04:16:52 PM
Quote from: Grazz on September 09, 2015, 03:59:32 PM
Quote from: silloc on September 09, 2015, 02:31:57 PM
Quote from: TomK on September 09, 2015, 02:26:10 PM
Quote from: Money Shot on September 09, 2015, 02:19:05 PM
Quote from: TomK on September 09, 2015, 02:16:04 PM
Menzel is coming to Adelaide
Really? Or just wishful thinking?? You already have Cameron and Betts ???
a bit of both, heard whispers but nothing concrete atm. He is apparently keen to come. I hope we get the deal done because I rate him.

True, but a forward line of Lynch, Walker, Menzel, Betts, Jenkins and Cameron is mouth watering.

Yeah, why the flower isn't your team 20x better

For the best part of the year our delivery into that forward line has been C Grade at best. All to often we just bomb it in there with a hope for the best attitude.

I guess it's pretty easy to fall into that trap when you've got that kind of forward line. It baffles me the decisions some players make when delivering into the forward 50. Especially when they've got time and space on the wing and they don't quickly head check to the corridor.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Grazz on September 09, 2015, 04:23:23 PM
Quote from: silloc on September 09, 2015, 04:16:52 PM
Quote from: Grazz on September 09, 2015, 03:59:32 PM
Quote from: silloc on September 09, 2015, 02:31:57 PM
Quote from: TomK on September 09, 2015, 02:26:10 PM
Quote from: Money Shot on September 09, 2015, 02:19:05 PM
Quote from: TomK on September 09, 2015, 02:16:04 PM
Menzel is coming to Adelaide
Really? Or just wishful thinking?? You already have Cameron and Betts ???
a bit of both, heard whispers but nothing concrete atm. He is apparently keen to come. I hope we get the deal done because I rate him.

True, but a forward line of Lynch, Walker, Menzel, Betts, Jenkins and Cameron is mouth watering.

Yeah, why the flower isn't your team 20x better

For the best part of the year our delivery into that forward line has been C Grade at best. All to often we just bomb it in there with a hope for the best attitude.

I guess it's pretty easy to fall into that trap when you've got that kind of forward line. It baffles me the decisions some players make when delivering into the forward 50. Especially when they've got time and space on the wing and they don't quickly head check to the corridor.

Yep, frustrated the hell out me mate you have no idea how much. Good defenders mop that up with ease majority of the time.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: silloc on September 09, 2015, 04:28:42 PM
Quote from: Grazz on September 09, 2015, 04:23:23 PM
Quote from: silloc on September 09, 2015, 04:16:52 PM
Quote from: Grazz on September 09, 2015, 03:59:32 PM
Quote from: silloc on September 09, 2015, 02:31:57 PM
Quote from: TomK on September 09, 2015, 02:26:10 PM
Quote from: Money Shot on September 09, 2015, 02:19:05 PM
Quote from: TomK on September 09, 2015, 02:16:04 PM
Menzel is coming to Adelaide
Really? Or just wishful thinking?? You already have Cameron and Betts ???
a bit of both, heard whispers but nothing concrete atm. He is apparently keen to come. I hope we get the deal done because I rate him.

True, but a forward line of Lynch, Walker, Menzel, Betts, Jenkins and Cameron is mouth watering.

Yeah, why the flower isn't your team 20x better

For the best part of the year our delivery into that forward line has been C Grade at best. All to often we just bomb it in there with a hope for the best attitude.

I guess it's pretty easy to fall into that trap when you've got that kind of forward line. It baffles me the decisions some players make when delivering into the forward 50. Especially when they've got time and space on the wing and they don't quickly head check to the corridor.

Yep, frustrated the hell out me mate you have no idea how much. Good defenders mop that up with ease majority of the time.

As an essendon supporter ... I kinda do have an idea how annoying that can be. Pretty sure we have the worst score conversion rate for inside 50's in the comp
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Mat0369 on September 09, 2015, 04:32:07 PM
Quote from: Money Shot on September 09, 2015, 01:50:23 PM
Bell for pick 21 (Bris)
Henderson for pick 10 (Gee)
Menzel for 31 (Ade)
Yarran for 34 (Rich)

Kreuzer leaves we get pick 2
Pick 10 for Carslile

Do you reckon that's possible?

Quote from: Pkbaldy on September 09, 2015, 02:11:30 PM
Why would that one happen?? O.o

This

Plus we will want a hell of a lot higher pick for Yaz. He is still contracted so we have leverage on that deal.

No way we give up 21 year old 1st round pick in Menz for a pick in the 30's. Bell will likely be involved in the deal for Aish. It might be something like Bell and next years 2nd for Aish and Brisbane's 3rd this year.

Ideally I wouldn't want to give up 10 for Carlisle, too much to give up for a guy with a potential 2 year suspension looming over his head, if I am Carlton I am letting the other teams fight to make a deal for him and then grab him in the PSD if it all breaks down. Although considering he thinks Essendon is a bit of a mess he might want to go to a club with some stability
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Grazz on September 09, 2015, 04:32:39 PM
Quote from: silloc on September 09, 2015, 04:28:42 PM
Quote from: Grazz on September 09, 2015, 04:23:23 PM
Quote from: silloc on September 09, 2015, 04:16:52 PM
Quote from: Grazz on September 09, 2015, 03:59:32 PM
Quote from: silloc on September 09, 2015, 02:31:57 PM
Quote from: TomK on September 09, 2015, 02:26:10 PM
Quote from: Money Shot on September 09, 2015, 02:19:05 PM
Quote from: TomK on September 09, 2015, 02:16:04 PM
Menzel is coming to Adelaide
Really? Or just wishful thinking?? You already have Cameron and Betts ???
a bit of both, heard whispers but nothing concrete atm. He is apparently keen to come. I hope we get the deal done because I rate him.

True, but a forward line of Lynch, Walker, Menzel, Betts, Jenkins and Cameron is mouth watering.

Yeah, why the flower isn't your team 20x better

For the best part of the year our delivery into that forward line has been C Grade at best. All to often we just bomb it in there with a hope for the best attitude.

I guess it's pretty easy to fall into that trap when you've got that kind of forward line. It baffles me the decisions some players make when delivering into the forward 50. Especially when they've got time and space on the wing and they don't quickly head check to the corridor.

Yep, frustrated the hell out me mate you have no idea how much. Good defenders mop that up with ease majority of the time.

As an essendon supporter ... I kinda do have an idea how annoying that can be. Pretty sure we have the worst score conversion rate for inside 50's in the comp

Haha yeh you'd understand my frustrations as well as anyone would.  ;)
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: silloc on September 09, 2015, 04:48:01 PM
Quote from: Mat0369 on September 09, 2015, 04:32:07 PM
Quote from: Money Shot on September 09, 2015, 01:50:23 PM
Bell for pick 21 (Bris)
Henderson for pick 10 (Gee)
Menzel for 31 (Ade)
Yarran for 34 (Rich)

Kreuzer leaves we get pick 2
Pick 10 for Carslile

Do you reckon that's possible?

Quote from: Pkbaldy on September 09, 2015, 02:11:30 PM
Why would that one happen?? O.o

This

Plus we will want a hell of a lot higher pick for Yaz. He is still contracted so we have leverage on that deal.

No way we give up 21 year old 1st round pick in Menz for a pick in the 30's. Bell will likely be involved in the deal for Aish. It might be something like Bell and next years 2nd for Aish and Brisbane's 3rd this year.

Ideally I wouldn't want to give up 10 for Carlisle, too much to give up for a guy with a potential 2 year suspension looming over his head, if I am Carlton I am letting the other teams fight to make a deal for him and then grab him in the PSD if it all breaks down. Although considering he thinks Essendon is a bit of a mess he might want to go to a club with some stability

2 year suspension hasn't put off any other club
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Ricochet on September 09, 2015, 04:49:56 PM
AFL 24/7 ‏@AFLTrade
Matthew Kreuzer has failed a medical at the Western Bulldogs AND Collingwood in the past few days. #AFL #AFLTrade
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Mat0369 on September 09, 2015, 04:53:11 PM
Quote from: silloc on September 09, 2015, 04:48:01 PM
2 year suspension hasn't put off any other club

And let them fight for him. Where we are at as a club we shouldn't be giving up a top 10 pick for a guy that could potentially miss 2 seasons and be back at 26.

Quote from: Ricochet on September 09, 2015, 04:49:56 PM
AFL 24/7 ‏@AFLTrade
Matthew Kreuzer has failed a medical at the Western Bulldogs AND Collingwood in the past few days. #AFL #AFLTrade

And sadly this doesn't surprise me. No pick 2 for us  :(
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: GoLions on September 09, 2015, 04:55:08 PM
Quote from: Mat0369 on September 09, 2015, 04:53:11 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on September 09, 2015, 04:49:56 PM
AFL 24/7 ‏@AFLTrade
Matthew Kreuzer has failed a medical at the Western Bulldogs AND Collingwood in the past few days. #AFL #AFLTrade

And sadly this doesn't surprise me. No pick 2 for us  :(
Schacheeeeeee
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: nrich102 on September 09, 2015, 06:02:48 PM
Schache is flowering coming to Brisbane.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Ringo on September 09, 2015, 06:07:15 PM
Quote from: Mat0369 on September 09, 2015, 04:32:07 PM
Quote from: Money Shot on September 09, 2015, 01:50:23 PM
Bell for pick 21 (Bris)
Henderson for pick 10 (Gee)
Menzel for 31 (Ade)
Yarran for 34 (Rich)

Kreuzer leaves we get pick 2
Pick 10 for Carslile

Do you reckon that's possible?

Quote from: Pkbaldy on September 09, 2015, 02:11:30 PM
Why would that one happen?? O.o

This

Plus we will want a hell of a lot higher pick for Yaz. He is still contracted so we have leverage on that deal.

No way we give up 21 year old 1st round pick in Menz for a pick in the 30's. Bell will likely be involved in the deal for Aish. It might be something like Bell and next years 2nd for Aish and Brisbane's 3rd this year.

Ideally I wouldn't want to give up 10 for Carlisle, too much to give up for a guy with a potential 2 year suspension looming over his head, if I am Carlton I am letting the other teams fight to make a deal for him and then grab him in the PSD if it all breaks down. Although considering he thinks Essendon is a bit of a mess he might want to go to a club with some stability
From Brisbane perspective if we do not get decent compensation picks or trade picks can not see us giving 21 for Bell - We will need to early picks to retain Academy Players Keays and Hipwood  if they are bid for early.
Do not how much truth in rumour Straight swap of Bell for Josh Green.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Ricochet on September 09, 2015, 06:24:28 PM
AFL 24/7 ‏@AFLTrade 
BREAKING: Richmond have officially entered the race for Lions youngster James Aish. #AFL #AFLTrade
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Mat0369 on September 09, 2015, 06:25:47 PM
I would be pretty pissed if Josh Green is the only compo we get for Bell. It would be a Shaun Grigg/Andrew Collins situation all over again. Aish has been rumored to Carlton all season, if Aish is coming to Carlton, it will be involved in a deal for Bell if he wants to go home. Bell could still stay at Carlton, but if he goes Aish will be part of the deal.

Again, assuming Aish wants to come to us, I wouldn't be surprised if the Hendo pick is used in that deal if Bell stays at Carlton.

Quote from: nrich102 on September 09, 2015, 06:02:48 PM
Schache is flowering coming to Brisbane.

Probably not, we still probably take the key forward first overall. We need key players on both ends of the field but we have been trying to find a key forward for the last 5 years.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: nrich102 on September 09, 2015, 06:33:32 PM
Quote from: Mat0369 on September 09, 2015, 06:25:47 PM
I would be pretty pissed if Josh Green is the only compo we get for Bell. It would be a Shaun Grigg/Andrew Collins situation all over again. Aish has been rumored to Carlton all season, if Aish is coming to Carlton, it will be involved in a deal for Bell if he wants to go home. Bell could still stay at Carlton, but if he goes Aish will be part of the deal.

Again, assuming Aish wants to come to us, I wouldn't be surprised if the Hendo pick is used in that deal if Bell stays at Carlton.

Quote from: nrich102 on September 09, 2015, 06:02:48 PM
Schache is flowering coming to Brisbane.

Probably not, we still probably take the key forward first overall. We need key players on both ends of the field but we have been trying to find a key forward for the last 5 years.
:'(
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Ringo on September 09, 2015, 06:33:40 PM
Thanks Matt - Aish is now being chased by Tigers and Collingwood and still to confirm his intentions to the club
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Toga on September 09, 2015, 06:34:41 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on September 09, 2015, 06:24:28 PM
AFL 24/7 ‏@AFLTrade 
BREAKING: Richmond have officially entered the race for Lions youngster James Aish. #AFL #AFLTrade

:D
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Mat0369 on September 09, 2015, 06:46:37 PM
Quote from: Ringo on September 09, 2015, 06:33:40 PM
Thanks Matt - Aish is now being chased by Tigers and Collingwood and still to confirm his intentions to the club

Basically the Bell rumor came about because of a situation similar to Beams where his dad is sick and he wants to be close to his family.

http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/carlton-could-head-to-the-afl-draft-with-as-many-as-five-top-20-picks-this-year/story-fnp04d70-1227492159567?sv=cb759256faa7998c23ed6247d52f9ca

QuoteQueenslander Bell is contracted for 2016 but his manager Tim Hazell said he would consider his future in coming weeks.

His father has been sick but Brisbane’s lack of draft picks â€" they will use them on Brisbane academy kids â€" makes a trade hard to orchestrate.

“Belly is contracted. His dad has been crook and at the moment he wants to concentrate on the year and see how the trade period plays out,’’ he said.

“He is just really focused on giving the footy club everything over the next fortnight.”

I can't fault him for leaving in that case and we will do right by him, but the only way I see this work is future picks or a player.

So Richmond, Collingwood and Geelong are going to recruit every available player for trade or through FA? Good luck to em
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Toga on September 09, 2015, 06:50:37 PM
Quote from: Mat0369 on September 09, 2015, 06:46:37 PM
So Richmond, Collingwood and Geelong are going to recruit every available player for trade or through FA? Good luck to em

Who else is Richmond getting
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Mat0369 on September 09, 2015, 07:03:49 PM
Quote from: Toga on September 09, 2015, 06:50:37 PM
Who else is Richmond getting

Rumored players Richmond are after include

Treloar - he picked Collingwood
Yaz
Kreuz
Stevie J
Motlop before he resigned

Now add Aish and a few others I am probably forgetting.

Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Pkbaldy on September 09, 2015, 07:08:14 PM
Quote from: Ringo on September 09, 2015, 06:07:15 PM
Quote from: Mat0369 on September 09, 2015, 04:32:07 PM
Quote from: Money Shot on September 09, 2015, 01:50:23 PM
Bell for pick 21 (Bris)
Henderson for pick 10 (Gee)
Menzel for 31 (Ade)
Yarran for 34 (Rich)

Kreuzer leaves we get pick 2
Pick 10 for Carslile

Do you reckon that's possible?

Quote from: Pkbaldy on September 09, 2015, 02:11:30 PM
Why would that one happen?? O.o

This

Plus we will want a hell of a lot higher pick for Yaz. He is still contracted so we have leverage on that deal.

No way we give up 21 year old 1st round pick in Menz for a pick in the 30's. Bell will likely be involved in the deal for Aish. It might be something like Bell and next years 2nd for Aish and Brisbane's 3rd this year.

Ideally I wouldn't want to give up 10 for Carlisle, too much to give up for a guy with a potential 2 year suspension looming over his head, if I am Carlton I am letting the other teams fight to make a deal for him and then grab him in the PSD if it all breaks down. Although considering he thinks Essendon is a bit of a mess he might want to go to a club with some stability
From Brisbane perspective if we do not get decent compensation picks or trade picks can not see us giving 21 for Bell - We will need to early picks to retain Academy Players Keays and Hipwood  if they are bid for early.
Do not how much truth in rumour Straight swap of Bell for Josh Green.

Any reason why Greeny wants to leave?
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Mat0369 on September 09, 2015, 07:09:20 PM
Quote from: Pkbaldy on September 09, 2015, 07:08:14 PM
Any reason why Greeny wants to leave?

Ringo mentioned he was coached by Bolton in Tassie so he wants to work with him again.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Mat0369 on September 09, 2015, 07:18:05 PM
Actually, reading into that I call BS. Bolton was at Clarence for one season, that was 2008, I am pretty sure Green was there in 09
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Ricochet on September 09, 2015, 10:32:07 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on September 09, 2015, 04:49:56 PM
AFL 24/7 ‏@AFLTrade
Matthew Kreuzer has failed a medical at the Western Bulldogs AND Collingwood in the past few days. #AFL #AFLTrade
maybe not

Sam McClure ‏@sam_mcclure
Just to clear things up:
Matthew Kruezer has not even had a medical anywhere, let alone failed one.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: silloc on September 10, 2015, 11:19:05 AM
Quote from: Mat0369 on September 09, 2015, 06:25:47 PM
I would be pretty pissed if Josh Green is the only compo we get for Bell. It would be a Shaun Grigg/Andrew Collins situation all over again. Aish has been rumored to Carlton all season, if Aish is coming to Carlton, it will be involved in a deal for Bell if he wants to go home. Bell could still stay at Carlton, but if he goes Aish will be part of the deal.

Again, assuming Aish wants to come to us, I wouldn't be surprised if the Hendo pick is used in that deal if Bell stays at Carlton.

Quote from: nrich102 on September 09, 2015, 06:02:48 PM
Schache is flowering coming to Brisbane.

Probably not, we still probably take the key forward first overall. We need key players on both ends of the field but we have been trying to find a key forward for the last 5 years.

No way you'll give up weitering, you'll probably be able to get a key forward with your 2nd pick
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Ricochet on September 10, 2015, 06:16:09 PM
Saints boys will love this

http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/afl-trades-2015-essendon-could-target-jack-billings-in-jake-carlisle-trade-with-st-kilda/story-fnp04d70-1227521624420

QuoteWHEN Essendon talks turkey with St Kilda about a deal for Jake Carlisle next week, one name will stand out above all else on the Bombers’ wishlist.

Classy goal kicking midfielder Jack Billings.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Big Mac on September 10, 2015, 06:17:24 PM
I don't even support the Saints but Essendon can get flowered
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Big Mac on September 10, 2015, 06:19:38 PM
That's actually insulting to the Saints to put Carlisle's name in the same sentence as Billings
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Pkbaldy on September 10, 2015, 06:21:13 PM
Quote from: Big  Mac on September 10, 2015, 06:19:38 PM
That's actually insulting to the Saints to put Carlisle's name in the same sentence as Billings

Essendon can go flower themselves with that offer.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Nige on September 10, 2015, 06:24:20 PM
That's gotta be Adrian Dodoro's idea.  ::)

The Bombers are kidding themselves.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Toga on September 10, 2015, 06:24:35 PM
Lol, Dodoro strikes again ::)
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: elephants on September 10, 2015, 06:26:41 PM
Quote from: Big  Mac on September 10, 2015, 06:17:24 PM
I don't even support the Saints but Essendon can get flowered
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Jukes on September 10, 2015, 06:28:34 PM
Yeah Billings was pretty good in the NINE games he played this season. An outsanding 5, 5, 6, 8, 5, 5, 5, and 6/10 from inside player ratings this season following 1, 7, 6, 7, 6, 4, 3, 3, 3, 7, 3, 5, 3, 5, 3, 4 in 2014.

He ain't that good.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Big Mac on September 10, 2015, 06:41:34 PM
omg he didn't get good rating points!!!!!!!

Oh noesss!!!!!!!
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: elephants on September 10, 2015, 06:55:44 PM
Hes also 19 you muppet
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Jukes on September 10, 2015, 07:01:40 PM
Oh yeah, I forgot that how a player performs is the complete opposite of whether they're good or not. Usually players who play shower are really really good right?

Good player:
http://www.aflplayerratings.com.au/Ratings/Player/118894/Patrick-CRIPPS
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Bill Manspeaker on September 10, 2015, 07:15:15 PM
Jack "Ablett 2.0" Billings was obviously hampered by injuries all year. the guy is a freak but I'm not even gonna waste my time trying to convince Jukesy

Essendon were always gonna ask for something massive, and we'll start with something not so massive, and end up somewhere in the middle

if we get him, we get him. if we don't, we don't. he'll be 24 by the start of round 1 2016, so it's not as if he's just a kid. but obviously he would improve our list and complete our beautiful spine.

just hurry up with the trade period
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Jukes on September 10, 2015, 07:39:33 PM
Because injuries never recur...

Give me Zach Merrett over this special Billings kid any day of the week
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Bill Manspeaker on September 10, 2015, 07:42:45 PM
well you're in luck brother cos that's exactly what you've got, and that's not gonna change
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: elephants on September 10, 2015, 08:27:59 PM
Haha I cant even.

Billings will be better than Merrett when we look back on their careers, willing to put a lot on that fact.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Football Factory on September 10, 2015, 08:38:50 PM
Quote from: Big  Mac on September 10, 2015, 06:17:24 PM
I don't even support the Saints but Essendon can get flowered
Quote from: Pkbaldy on September 10, 2015, 06:21:13 PM
Quote from: Big  Mac on September 10, 2015, 06:19:38 PM
That's actually insulting to the Saints to put Carlisle's name in the same sentence as Billings

Essendon can go flower themselves with that offer.
Quote from: elephants on September 10, 2015, 06:55:44 PM
Hes also 19 you muppet


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Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: silloc on September 10, 2015, 09:17:50 PM
Whats the talk around bennel??
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Pkbaldy on September 10, 2015, 09:21:50 PM
Flog Barrett just said that Cam McCarthy wants to return home to Perth....  :o :o :o
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: My Chumps on September 10, 2015, 09:41:06 PM
lmao remember last year when the Bombers were asking for Wingard in return for Ryder? Who's the negotiator over there  ;D
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Toga on September 10, 2015, 09:45:02 PM
Quote from: My Chumps on September 10, 2015, 09:41:06 PM
lmao remember last year when the Bombers were asking for Wingard in return for Ryder? Who's the negotiator over there  ;D

The notorious D.O.D.O.R.O ;D
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: silloc on September 11, 2015, 10:13:28 AM
Adcock? does anyone want him? surely he can still be a handy depth player for a team like bulldogs or adelaide.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Pkbaldy on September 11, 2015, 10:31:02 AM
Quote from: silloc on September 11, 2015, 10:13:28 AM
Adcock? does anyone want him? surely he can still be a handy depth player for a team like bulldogs or adelaide.

Brisbane should just bite down and admit they flowered up and re-sign him. Since they played him up forward he's been going really well.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Ricochet on September 11, 2015, 10:35:58 AM
Carlton have officially asked for a priority pick

hey, if you don't ask you don't receive i guess
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Ricochet on September 11, 2015, 11:20:28 AM
So on the talk of Jaeger looking at a move to Vic. I know he and Conigs are great mates so wondering if he might look towards GWS instead?
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Pkbaldy on September 11, 2015, 11:25:18 AM
Quote from: Ricochet on September 11, 2015, 11:20:28 AM
So on the talk of Jaeger looking at a move to Vic. I know he and Conigs are great mates so wondering if he might look towards GWS instead?

This'll be next years trade period, won't it?
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Ricochet on September 11, 2015, 11:25:58 AM
Quote from: Pkbaldy on September 11, 2015, 11:25:18 AM
Quote from: Ricochet on September 11, 2015, 11:20:28 AM
So on the talk of Jaeger looking at a move to Vic. I know he and Conigs are great mates so wondering if he might look towards GWS instead?

This'll be next years trade period, won't it?
Yeh he's contracted next year
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Pkbaldy on September 11, 2015, 11:38:16 AM
Quote from: Ricochet on September 11, 2015, 11:25:58 AM
Quote from: Pkbaldy on September 11, 2015, 11:25:18 AM
Quote from: Ricochet on September 11, 2015, 11:20:28 AM
So on the talk of Jaeger looking at a move to Vic. I know he and Conigs are great mates so wondering if he might look towards GWS instead?

This'll be next years trade period, won't it?
Yeh he's contracted next year

If the Saints don't through the $$$ at him, they're completely stupid. We said at the end of 2016 we will be hoping to buy a superstar. He'd be a perfect fit in our midfield.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: My Chumps on September 11, 2015, 11:58:36 AM
Quote from: Ricochet on September 11, 2015, 10:35:58 AM
Carlton have officially asked for a priority pick

hey, if you don't ask you don't receive i guess
Ha, down for one season and they ask. Some clubs man...
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Money Shot on September 11, 2015, 12:04:50 PM
Quote from: My Chumps on September 11, 2015, 11:58:36 AM
Quote from: Ricochet on September 11, 2015, 10:35:58 AM
Carlton have officially asked for a priority pick

hey, if you don't ask you don't receive i guess
Ha, down for one season and they ask. Some clubs man...
Haha as a Carlton fan even I think it is a bit ridiculous but hey I wouldn't mind picks 1 and 2 as well as Kreuzer :P
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Ricochet on September 11, 2015, 12:12:02 PM
Carlton would know they're no chance of getting it, but if they make a decent case of it then they might be a decent shot of a top 5 pick compo for Krooz (if his contact value is around the mark)
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: silloc on September 11, 2015, 12:35:23 PM
Gold coast need to get serious if jaeger wants to leave, trade him now whilst he's contracted to get more bag for your buck. 
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Hellopplz on September 11, 2015, 01:01:14 PM
Quote from: elephants on September 10, 2015, 08:27:59 PM
Billings will be better than Merrett when we look back on their careers, willing to put a lot on that fact.
I have both at PNL so shall monitor both into the future :P.

But as noted earlier, we tried the same with Ryder when he wanted to leave, doubt we'll get much for Carlisle as well especially if going after young guns who won't leave. Asking for Billings a bit much, even if Carlisle is a good swingman that could be handy at almost any club.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Nige on September 11, 2015, 01:03:27 PM
Just saw on Facebook that Carlton and Brisbane could have the top 6 picks if they get the priority picks and the much talked about compo picks. Here I am thinking the compromised drafts were behind us!

Brisbane probably need the help though, they're clearly struggling and have been for a while, Carlton on the other hand...
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: silloc on September 11, 2015, 01:13:22 PM
Quote from: Nige on September 11, 2015, 01:03:27 PM
Just saw on Facebook that Carlton and Brisbane could have the top 6 picks if they get the priority picks and the much talked about compo picks. Here I am thinking the compromised drafts were behind us!

Brisbane probably need the help though, they're clearly struggling and have been for a while, Carlton on the other hand...

flower off, none of them need help. There own fault for not being able to hold onto players.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: jvalles69 on September 11, 2015, 02:10:14 PM
Quote from: silloc on September 11, 2015, 01:13:22 PM
Quote from: Nige on September 11, 2015, 01:03:27 PM
Just saw on Facebook that Carlton and Brisbane could have the top 6 picks if they get the priority picks and the much talked about compo picks. Here I am thinking the compromised drafts were behind us!

Brisbane probably need the help though, they're clearly struggling and have been for a while, Carlton on the other hand...

flower off, none of them need help. There own fault for not being able to hold onto players.

Yeah thats bullshower, I remember when West Coast got shafted the year we got the wooden spoon and GWS got all the picks, we're still doing better than them with what we had.  Poor managment and drafting = suck it up princess.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: elephants on September 11, 2015, 02:18:15 PM
Quote from: jvalles69 on September 11, 2015, 02:10:14 PM
Quote from: silloc on September 11, 2015, 01:13:22 PM
Quote from: Nige on September 11, 2015, 01:03:27 PM
Just saw on Facebook that Carlton and Brisbane could have the top 6 picks if they get the priority picks and the much talked about compo picks. Here I am thinking the compromised drafts were behind us!

Brisbane probably need the help though, they're clearly struggling and have been for a while, Carlton on the other hand...

flower off, none of them need help. There own fault for not being able to hold onto players.

Yeah thats bullshower, I remember when West Coast got shafted the year we got the wooden spoon and GWS got all the picks, we're still doing better than them with what we had.  Poor managment and drafting = suck it up princess.

Meh, I'll take Gaffy over D.Swallow ;)
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Toga on September 11, 2015, 02:23:04 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on September 11, 2015, 11:20:28 AM
So on the talk of Jaeger looking at a move to Vic. I know he and Conigs are great mates so wondering if he might look towards GWS instead?

Doubt it, rumours sound like he wants to go to a bigger-market club and specifically in Melbourne
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Ricochet on September 11, 2015, 02:24:24 PM
Quote from: Toga on September 11, 2015, 02:23:04 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on September 11, 2015, 11:20:28 AM
So on the talk of Jaeger looking at a move to Vic. I know he and Conigs are great mates so wondering if he might look towards GWS instead?

Doubt it, rumours sound like he wants to go to a bigger-market club and specifically in Melbourne
There's some pretty nice houses in Sydney :P
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Toga on September 11, 2015, 02:26:11 PM
Haha. But surely he wouldn't achieve much going from one small-market expansion club to another! Much more likely to go to a Melbourne club if he leaves IMO
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Ricochet on September 11, 2015, 02:34:26 PM
Quote from: Toga on September 11, 2015, 02:26:11 PM
Haha. But surely he wouldn't achieve much going from one small-market expansion club to another! Much more likely to go to a Melbourne club if he leaves IMO
Well it was reported he was looking to increase his property portfolio. Sounds like a load of shower to me, he can do that from anywhere
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Toga on September 11, 2015, 02:43:00 PM
Yeah not gonna lie I didn't think there was much substance behind it.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: RiOtChEsS on September 11, 2015, 03:34:17 PM
Quote from: elephants on September 11, 2015, 02:18:15 PM
Quote from: jvalles69 on September 11, 2015, 02:10:14 PM
Quote from: silloc on September 11, 2015, 01:13:22 PM
Quote from: Nige on September 11, 2015, 01:03:27 PM
Just saw on Facebook that Carlton and Brisbane could have the top 6 picks if they get the priority picks and the much talked about compo picks. Here I am thinking the compromised drafts were behind us!

Brisbane probably need the help though, they're clearly struggling and have been for a while, Carlton on the other hand...

flower off, none of them need help. There own fault for not being able to hold onto players.

Yeah thats bullshower, I remember when West Coast got shafted the year we got the wooden spoon and GWS got all the picks, we're still doing better than them with what we had.  Poor managment and drafting = suck it up princess.

Meh, I'll take Gaffy over D.Swallow ;)
mmm we will take all the picks we can get :D
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Purple 77 on September 11, 2015, 03:48:21 PM
Quote from: Nige on September 11, 2015, 01:03:27 PM
Just saw on Facebook that Carlton and Brisbane could have the top 6 picks if they get the priority picks and the much talked about compo picks. Here I am thinking the compromised drafts were behind us!

Brisbane probably need the help though, they're clearly struggling and have been for a while, Carlton on the other hand...

If the Melbourne 2013 team wasn't gonna get a priority pick, no one will. That team was just gosh darn awful! 4th worst season in AFL/VFL history by ANY club, 2 wins and a 50ish percentage. Brisbane got 4 wins and 67 percentage. It's not great, but they are twice as good as what melbourne were.

And besides, they traded away their top pick last year for one of the gun mids in the comp. Now they want it back, and keep Beams?


Sorry, I'm a little precious on this topic  ::)
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Ringo on September 11, 2015, 04:02:19 PM
For what it is worth I think there should be no priority picks or compensation picks at all.  Brisbane is where it is because of injuries and go home factor and will suffer further because academy picks for home grown players who want to remain in Brisbane will be taken away thanks to bleating Melbourne Clubs. You really need to be in Qld as since the announcement concerning academy picks has been made the academy has lost players to soccer, union and rugby league.  When we are finally getting some value out of the Academy with Freeman and Andrews the rug is pulled.

But whilst the rules are still there why should we not attempt to get the picks but to be honest do not expect either of us too if as Purps rightly states Melbourne could not get one in 2013.

From Brisbanes list only Jack Redden has formally requested a trade and Adcock has been told he is not wanted and Berger is a free agent.

Interestingly Aish attended end of season review meetings which departing players traditionally do not attend and did not ask for a trade at his own performance review,
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Football Factory on September 11, 2015, 04:39:52 PM
Agree with Purps .. if Melbourne didn't get one in 2013 then it will NEVER happen.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: RiOtChEsS on September 11, 2015, 05:11:44 PM
GWS formally rejecting Cam McCarthy trade request, w0w bad for business Giants :-X
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Ricochet on September 11, 2015, 05:17:02 PM
Quote from: RiOtChEsS on September 11, 2015, 05:11:44 PM
GWS formally rejecting Cam McCarthy trade request, w0w bad for business Giants :-X
They also said they'd never trade Boyd and that Treloar was happy to stay with them :P
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: RiOtChEsS on September 11, 2015, 05:22:33 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on September 11, 2015, 05:17:02 PM
Quote from: RiOtChEsS on September 11, 2015, 05:11:44 PM
GWS formally rejecting Cam McCarthy trade request, w0w bad for business Giants :-X
They also said they'd never trade Boyd and that Treloar was happy to stay with them :P
makes em look like a bad team to join via free agency and a great team to trade with :D
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Big Mac on September 11, 2015, 05:35:08 PM
Quote from: RiOtChEsS on September 11, 2015, 05:11:44 PM
GWS formally rejecting Cam McCarthy trade request, w0w bad for business Giants :-X

worked out alright last year

https://mobile.twitter.com/FOXSportsNews/status/521453294271467520 (https://mobile.twitter.com/FOXSportsNews/status/521453294271467520)
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Mat0369 on September 11, 2015, 05:57:46 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on September 11, 2015, 12:12:02 PM
Carlton would know they're no chance of getting it, but if they make a decent case of it then they might be a decent shot of a top 5 pick compo for Krooz (if his contact value is around the mark)

I found this paragraph interesting in the AFL article.

QuoteThe club believes its four wooden spoon since 2002 and comparable record to the Lions over three seasons (the Blues have one more win over that period) present a compelling case for a priority selection.

Basically the argument the club is putting forward is that if Brisbane think they deserve one, we should get one too. Honestly neither team should, Melbourne have potentially been the worst team since Fitzroy and if they didn't get one there is no way either Brisbane or Carlton should with the way priority picks are awarded.

Maybe a pick at the start of the 2nd round to help with academy selections for the Lions and for us to have a free hit with one of the father son picks (probably looking like a 3rd round pick) might be fair just because we could have a dozen changes

The thing I would be pissed with is if we lost Kreuz and didn't get the same compo the Dees got for Chip (assuming the contract is similar enough). To lose one of our only assets and get what is likely to be about pick 20 doesn't seem right.



Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: BoredSaint on September 11, 2015, 06:16:19 PM
Saints haven't won a premiership since 66. Could do with the first 10 picks of the next 3 drafts so that we win won soon..  ::)
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Ricochet on September 11, 2015, 06:18:54 PM
Quote from: BoredSaint on September 11, 2015, 06:16:19 PM
Saints haven't won a premiership since 66. Could do with the first 10 picks of the next 3 drafts so that we win won soon..  ::)
What do Freo get then? ?  :'(
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Money Shot on September 11, 2015, 08:02:55 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on September 11, 2015, 06:18:54 PM
Quote from: BoredSaint on September 11, 2015, 06:16:19 PM
Saints haven't won a premiership since 66. Could do with the first 10 picks of the next 3 drafts so that we win won soon..  ::)
What do Freo get then? ?  :'(
I reckon this could be your year mate!
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Mat0369 on September 11, 2015, 08:09:05 PM
Quote from: BoredSaint on September 11, 2015, 06:16:19 PM
Saints haven't won a premiership since 66. Could do with the first 10 picks of the next 3 drafts so that we win won soon..  ::)

NRoo and Kosi were involved in your last priority pick from memory  :P

The priority picks of those sorts should only be given to teams that have not been competitive for a long time. The last Dees team to make finals was in 06 and they were starting yet another rebuild under Roos. Someone like that I can understand, Carlton were a kick away from a prelim in 2011 and won a final in 2013 (even though they made it by default). Brisbane got the big fish in last years trade period, if they have two more seasons similar to this past year, then maybe the can seriously consider giving them one.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Kellogscrunchynut on September 11, 2015, 08:11:32 PM
Problem is with Melbourne not being given one last season, how bad does a team have to be to be given one?


Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Mat0369 on September 11, 2015, 08:17:18 PM
Quote from: Kellogscrunchynut on September 11, 2015, 08:11:32 PM
Problem is with Melbourne not being given one last season, how bad does a team have to be to be given one?

Exactly. There is apparently a formula to decide it based on a number of factors including injuries, previous finishes, percentage and a few other things. If I am the Dees I am applying for one again
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: nrich102 on September 11, 2015, 08:21:19 PM
The problem we have at Brisbane though is that no one from down there plays footy and no one from further south wants to live there. When your best kids walk out every 2 year its kinda hard to get something going.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Big Mac on September 11, 2015, 08:33:28 PM
Quote from: nrich102 on September 11, 2015, 08:21:19 PM
The problem we have at Brisbane though is that no one from down there plays footy and no one from further south wants to live there. When your best kids walk out every 2 year its kinda hard to get something going.

legit question, what had changed since the 2001-03 days? Is it just that player movement has become easier?

The issue at the moment seems to be more about the attitudes of your captain/coach. Not necessarily location. Although that could be all a ruse tbh

I think it's fair to say that Brisbane would have been looking much better if they hadn't been hit with injuries like they were. One season with all of your gun players and all of a sudden players will want to come to Brissy, not leave
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Toga on September 11, 2015, 09:17:29 PM
Quote from: Big  Mac on September 11, 2015, 08:33:28 PM
legit question, what had changed since the 2001-03 days? Is it just that player movement has become easier?

I think this would definitely be the reason - player movement has become a lot easier, the players have a lot more power to determine where they want to go with FA and the backing of the AFLPA etc.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Mat0369 on September 11, 2015, 09:46:07 PM
It also help when you are winning. The same way players are attracted to the Hawks or Swans, they could go to Brisbane who were a dynasty side and also had the COLA to allow them to pay some of these guys a little bit more.

I would say a lot of it has to do with the environment right now though. It's one of the reasons that the Lions have gone out and gotten Lambert. Guys like Redden that seemed pretty happy no longer want to be there. They are still attracting decent players (Christensen, Robbo and Beams) and could end up with Tommy Bell as well.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: jvalles69 on September 12, 2015, 01:51:58 AM
Quote from: Toga on September 11, 2015, 09:17:29 PM
Quote from: Big  Mac on September 11, 2015, 08:33:28 PM
legit question, what had changed since the 2001-03 days? Is it just that player movement has become easier?

I think this would definitely be the reason - player movement has become a lot easier, the players have a lot more power to determine where they want to go with FA and the backing of the AFLPA etc.

It's also become more of a business with players being expendable at times to "improve" your business, also with it comes less loyalty and why should players be loyal when teams can decide when a player is expendable.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Big Mac on September 12, 2015, 11:00:00 AM
Melbourne's BnF results in 2013

Winner Nathan Jones (365 votes)
Second   Colin Garland (360)
Third   Dean Terlich (306)
Fourth Matt Jones (303)
Fifth:   Colin Sylvia (288)

No priority pick.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Bill Manspeaker on September 12, 2015, 11:26:46 AM
I think the reason for Melbourne not getting a PP was because you've already had a couple PPs, so it's not so much about getting the young talent, it's about developing it.
and it's not all bad for Melbourne. you got pick 3 for Frawley while we get pick 13 for Goddard and 25 for Dal, and Hawks get 19 for Buddy. I know that all has to do where you've finished on the ladder but there's something wrong with that.
and a year before you picked up one of if not the best young forward in the game

it's all about develpment and more picks won't change that
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Big Mac on September 12, 2015, 11:36:41 AM
Quote from: Bill Manspeaker on September 12, 2015, 11:26:46 AM
I think the reason for Melbourne not getting a PP was because you've already had a couple PPs, so it's not so much about getting the young talent, it's about developing it.
and it's not all bad for Melbourne. you got pick 3 for Frawley while we get pick 13 for Goddard and 25 for Dal, and Hawks get 19 for Buddy. I know that all has to do where you've finished on the ladder but there's something wrong with that.
and a year before you picked up one of if not the best young forward in the game

it's all about develpment and more picks won't change that

I'm not complaining. Think we have a good young group and should be able to do some damage in the coming years

It's going to be hard to justify giving a priority pick to anyone else though if Melbourne didn't get one. They may as well abolish it

And technically the Dees, Saints and Hawks all got the same free agency compensation. It's just another equalisation measure that changes the position of the pick. I know it sounds odd but it kind of makes sense
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Bill Manspeaker on September 12, 2015, 11:47:52 AM
yeah I get it's technically the same compensation, but something about Frawley being worth pick 3 while other guns are what they were doesn't sit right with me

not sure how Carlton can ask for a PP to be honest. I get Melbourne and even Brissy, but Carlton... really? what's the bet Essendon asks for one next year
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: RiOtChEsS on September 12, 2015, 11:58:03 AM
Carlton are setting the table, by asking for a PP and getting turned down it applies pressure to the AFL granting #2 for Kruezer ;)
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Nige on September 12, 2015, 01:22:07 PM
The Age reckons Jake Melksham will eithe stay a Bomber or ask for a trade to the Dees.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: RiOtChEsS on September 12, 2015, 01:33:33 PM
Quote from: Nige on September 12, 2015, 01:22:07 PM
The Age reckons Jake Melksham will eithe stay a Bomber or ask for a trade to the Dees.
thats a relief, didnt want Carlton chasing fringe players
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Jukes on September 12, 2015, 02:10:42 PM
Quote from: Bill Manspeaker on September 12, 2015, 11:47:52 AM
yeah I get it's technically the same compensation, but something about Frawley being worth pick 3 while other guns are what they were doesn't sit right with me

not sure how Carlton can ask for a PP to be honest. I get Melbourne and even Brissy, but Carlton... really? what's the bet Essendon asks for one next year

when the whole WADA thing blows over and we come top 6? not likely.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: RiOtChEsS on September 12, 2015, 02:20:15 PM
Quote from: Jukes on September 12, 2015, 02:10:42 PM
Quote from: Bill Manspeaker on September 12, 2015, 11:47:52 AM
yeah I get it's technically the same compensation, but something about Frawley being worth pick 3 while other guns are what they were doesn't sit right with me

not sure how Carlton can ask for a PP to be honest. I get Melbourne and even Brissy, but Carlton... really? what's the bet Essendon asks for one next year

when the whole WADA thing blows over and we come top 6? not likely.
(http://memecrunch.com/meme/5BSC/essendon/image.jpg?w=400&c=1)
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Purple 77 on September 12, 2015, 02:22:54 PM
Quote from: Nige on September 12, 2015, 01:22:07 PM
The Age reckons Jake Melksham will eithe stay a Bomber or ask for a trade to the Dees.

Ugghhhhhhh
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: kilbluff1985 on September 12, 2015, 02:27:09 PM
don't care if Milkshake goes would rather us get games into youngsters
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Big Mac on September 12, 2015, 02:27:32 PM
Quote from: Purple 77 on September 12, 2015, 02:22:54 PM
Quote from: Nige on September 12, 2015, 01:22:07 PM
The Age reckons Jake Melksham will eithe stay a Bomber or ask for a trade to the Dees.

Ugghhhhhhh
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Ricochet on September 14, 2015, 02:33:25 PM
Quote"1116 SEN have reported that Collingwood's Matthew Scharenberg has signed a three-year deal to remain with Collingwood after having turned his back on a lucractive offer to return to his native South Australia."

and

QuoteThe Herald Sun are reporting that Brent Stanton could be on the way out of Essendon, with the 248-gamer reportedly unsatisfied by the Bombers' offer of a one-year contract to keep him at the club in 2016.
Stanton, 29, is looking for a minimum two-year deal and it has been mooted that should the free agent receive a three-year offer from a rival club, the Bombers could receive a second-round compensation pick.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: RaisyDaisy on September 14, 2015, 02:38:58 PM
Pretty shower from Essendon to only offer Stants a year.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Ricochet on September 14, 2015, 02:39:43 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on September 14, 2015, 02:38:58 PM
Pretty shower from Essendon to only offer Stants a year.
Agree man. They'll bump it up to 2 now though surely
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Nige on September 14, 2015, 02:47:53 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on September 14, 2015, 02:39:43 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on September 14, 2015, 02:38:58 PM
Pretty shower from Essendon to only offer Stants a year.
Agree man. They'll bump it up to 2 now though surely
It is Essendon though... when Dodoro's your list manager, anything could happen.



Richmond ruled themselves out of the Aish race.

Apparently Markworth won't be at the Saints next season, although there is a chance he may get delisted and redrafted as a rookie.

Mason Shaw might get cut from Port should they get Charlie Dixon and Jay Schulz signs on, may have some suitors though since a number of clubs are looking for big forwards.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Ricochet on September 14, 2015, 04:27:24 PM
http://www.lions.com.au/news/2015-09-14/list-changes

Mitch Golby and Jordon Bourke have been delisted.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Nige on September 14, 2015, 07:10:32 PM
Bourke.  :(
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: nrich102 on September 14, 2015, 09:19:05 PM
wtf? Did not see Bourke coming and surprised we didn't trade Golby tbh. Probably the worst couple on the list though.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Ziplock on September 14, 2015, 09:25:26 PM
Quote from: nrich102 on September 14, 2015, 09:19:05 PM
wtf? Did not see Bourke coming and surprised we didn't trade Golby tbh. Probably the worst couple on the list though.

yeah, golby's odds on getting picked up by someone?
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: nrich102 on September 14, 2015, 09:33:59 PM
Quote from: Ziplock on September 14, 2015, 09:25:26 PM
Quote from: nrich102 on September 14, 2015, 09:19:05 PM
wtf? Did not see Bourke coming and surprised we didn't trade Golby tbh. Probably the worst couple on the list though.

yeah, golby's odds on getting picked up by someone?
True. I felt that he showed something a couple of years back though. Probably much more likely he'll get picked up in a draft than a trade though. I wouldn't be surprised if he got a gig on someones rookie list.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: meow meow on September 15, 2015, 03:10:49 PM
Bulldogs point machine Jarrad Grant "exploring his options". Brisbane were into him a couple of years ago.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: RaisyDaisy on September 15, 2015, 03:23:16 PM
Quote from: meow meow on September 15, 2015, 03:10:49 PM
Bulldogs point machine Jarrad Grant "exploring his options". Brisbane were into him a couple of years ago.

Spindleshanks!
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Nige on September 15, 2015, 04:03:36 PM
This is kinda the offseason thread.

The Dogs have delisted Ayce Cordy, Sam Darley, Matthew Fuller, Brett Goodes, Daniel Pearce and Jordan Kelly.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: elephants on September 15, 2015, 04:12:39 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on September 15, 2015, 03:23:16 PM
Quote from: meow meow on September 15, 2015, 03:10:49 PM
Bulldogs point machine Jarrad Grant "exploring his options". Brisbane were into him a couple of years ago.

Spindleshanks!

Merlin!
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: meow meow on September 15, 2015, 04:14:20 PM
Quote from: elephants on September 15, 2015, 04:12:39 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on September 15, 2015, 03:23:16 PM
Quote from: meow meow on September 15, 2015, 03:10:49 PM
Bulldogs point machine Jarrad Grant "exploring his options". Brisbane were into him a couple of years ago.

Spindleshanks!

Merlin!

Microphone head!
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: jvalles69 on September 15, 2015, 04:19:24 PM
Quote from: meow meow on September 15, 2015, 04:14:20 PM
Quote from: elephants on September 15, 2015, 04:12:39 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on September 15, 2015, 03:23:16 PM
Quote from: meow meow on September 15, 2015, 03:10:49 PM
Bulldogs point machine Jarrad Grant "exploring his options". Brisbane were into him a couple of years ago.

Spindleshanks!

Merlin!

Microphone head!

Crack addict?  :o
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: RaisyDaisy on September 15, 2015, 04:47:42 PM
Quote from: meow meow on September 15, 2015, 04:14:20 PM
Microphone head!

BAHAHAHAHAHAHA that's gold!

I hope he plays on just so I can keep hearing JB call him Spindleshanks or someone even call him microphone head ahahahaha

Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: RaisyDaisy on September 15, 2015, 04:48:49 PM
Quote from: Nige on September 15, 2015, 04:03:36 PM
This is kinda the offseason thread.

The Dogs have delisted Ayce Cordy, Sam Darley, Matthew Fuller, Brett Goodes, Daniel Pearce and Jordan Kelly.

Funny how I read an article a couple of months ago about the Dogs talking up Ayce.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Pkbaldy on September 15, 2015, 04:58:21 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on September 15, 2015, 04:48:49 PM
Quote from: Nige on September 15, 2015, 04:03:36 PM
This is kinda the offseason thread.

The Dogs have delisted Ayce Cordy, Sam Darley, Matthew Fuller, Brett Goodes, Daniel Pearce and Jordan Kelly.

Funny how I read an article a couple of months ago about the Dogs talking up Ayce.

I think that was the media talking him up, saying he was going to succeed Minson.

Doggies must be confident in getting a ruck through FA? Who is the ruck after Minson now? Tom Boyd? $1m pinch ruck...
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: elephants on September 15, 2015, 05:02:36 PM
TOMMY CAMPBELL RESIDENT SUPERSTAR
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Nige on September 15, 2015, 05:05:11 PM
Quote from: Pkbaldy on September 15, 2015, 04:58:21 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on September 15, 2015, 04:48:49 PM
Quote from: Nige on September 15, 2015, 04:03:36 PM
This is kinda the offseason thread.

The Dogs have delisted Ayce Cordy, Sam Darley, Matthew Fuller, Brett Goodes, Daniel Pearce and Jordan Kelly.

Funny how I read an article a couple of months ago about the Dogs talking up Ayce.

I think that was the media talking him up, saying he was going to succeed Minson.

Doggies must be confident in getting a ruck through FA? Who is the ruck after Minson now? Tom Boyd? $1m pinch ruck...
They'll probably get somebody since there are a few on the market.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: meow meow on September 15, 2015, 05:05:28 PM
Stefan Martin with Roughead/Boyd giving him rests sounds about right.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Ziplock on September 15, 2015, 05:06:48 PM
Quote from: elephants on September 15, 2015, 05:02:36 PM
TOMMY CAMPBELL RESIDENT SUPERSTAR
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Toga on September 15, 2015, 05:08:35 PM
Quote from: meow meow on September 15, 2015, 05:05:28 PM
Stefan Martin with Roughead/Boyd giving him rests sounds about right.

Imagine that!
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: meow meow on September 15, 2015, 05:08:44 PM
I dunno, Shane Biggs held his own up against Nic Nat.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: meow meow on September 15, 2015, 05:10:22 PM
Quote from: Toga on September 15, 2015, 05:08:35 PM
Quote from: meow meow on September 15, 2015, 05:05:28 PM
Stefan Martin with Roughead/Boyd giving him rests sounds about right.

Imagine that!

Put Stefan and Libba into our team and there's no reason why we can't challenge for the flag next year. Stef is 29 but we should give up our first round pick for him anyway.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: nrich102 on September 15, 2015, 05:12:37 PM
I don't want Grant at the Lions .

Stef aint going nowhere either, but Leuy is a free agent  ;)
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: meow meow on September 15, 2015, 05:17:54 PM
Quote from: nrich102 on September 15, 2015, 05:12:37 PM
Stef aint going nowhere

So he's going somewhere?
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: nrich102 on September 15, 2015, 05:20:21 PM
Quote from: meow meow on September 15, 2015, 05:17:54 PM
Quote from: nrich102 on September 15, 2015, 05:12:37 PM
Stef aint going nowhere

So he's going somewhere?
:P He's going back to the gabba and will finish his career with the Lions  :P
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: nas on September 15, 2015, 05:30:24 PM
Quote from: jvalles69 on September 15, 2015, 04:19:24 PM
Quote from: meow meow on September 15, 2015, 04:14:20 PM
Quote from: elephants on September 15, 2015, 04:12:39 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on September 15, 2015, 03:23:16 PM
Quote from: meow meow on September 15, 2015, 03:10:49 PM
Bulldogs point machine Jarrad Grant "exploring his options". Brisbane were into him a couple of years ago.

Spindleshanks!

Merlin!

Microphone head!

Crack addict?  :o

Reminds of Rod Carter  "Tilt"
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Ringo on September 15, 2015, 07:40:24 PM
Berger has been linked with the Doggies
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: jvalles69 on September 15, 2015, 07:50:55 PM
Another Giant looking to leave. Curtly Hampton

http://www.afl.com.au/news/2015-09-15/giant-hampton-seeks-trade-for-more-opportunities (http://www.afl.com.au/news/2015-09-15/giant-hampton-seeks-trade-for-more-opportunities)
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: meow meow on September 15, 2015, 11:04:20 PM
Quote from: Ringo on September 15, 2015, 07:40:24 PM
Berger has been linked with the Doggies

If we get him he should be given the #12 jumper to carry on Tom Williams' legacy.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Football Factory on September 16, 2015, 10:40:30 AM
Quote from: nas on September 15, 2015, 05:30:24 PM
Quote from: jvalles69 on September 15, 2015, 04:19:24 PM
Quote from: meow meow on September 15, 2015, 04:14:20 PM
Quote from: elephants on September 15, 2015, 04:12:39 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on September 15, 2015, 03:23:16 PM
Quote from: meow meow on September 15, 2015, 03:10:49 PM
Bulldogs point machine Jarrad Grant "exploring his options". Brisbane were into him a couple of years ago.

Spindleshanks!

Merlin!

Microphone head!

Crack addict?  :o

Reminds of Rod Carter  "Tilt"

Gees that's going back a bit .. loved watching the "Tilt" play (I actually loved the Sydney team at that stage  :-X )
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Ricochet on September 16, 2015, 10:44:03 AM
Zac Smith has requested to be traded
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Pkbaldy on September 16, 2015, 10:48:44 AM
Quote from: Ricochet on September 16, 2015, 10:44:03 AM
Zac Smith has requested to be traded

Doggies surely front runners?
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Nige on September 16, 2015, 10:57:38 AM
Stevo reckons Freo are faves to land Harley.

Pies (surprise surprise!) and Crows leading the race for Curtly Hampton.

Kreuzer failed medicals at the Pies and Dogs, expected to re-sign with the Blues.

Gorringe finally seeking a move away from the Gold Coast.

Suns considering offering Jed Adcock a similar deal to what they offered Andrew Raines - to lead the NEAFL side and play if injuries strike.

Woosha offered a 5 year contract by the Bombers to coach them.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: RaisyDaisy on September 16, 2015, 10:58:57 AM
What a pathetic offer for Jed. I hope he doesn't entertain it
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Ricochet on September 16, 2015, 11:01:43 AM
Quote from: Nige on September 16, 2015, 10:57:38 AM
Stevo reckons Freo are faves to land Harley.
Peel Thunder link may have something to do with this.

We managed to turn Son Son's career around, we should be able to manage Harley
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Nige on September 16, 2015, 11:02:52 AM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on September 16, 2015, 10:58:57 AM
What a pathetic offer for Jed. I hope he doesn't entertain it
It's been said he believes he can still play at the top level and that he will keep looking for better offers (which I'm sure he'll get).
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Ricochet on September 16, 2015, 11:06:10 AM
Quote from: Nige on September 16, 2015, 11:02:52 AM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on September 16, 2015, 10:58:57 AM
What a pathetic offer for Jed. I hope he doesn't entertain it
It's been said he believes he can still play at the top level and that he will keep looking for better offers (which I'm sure he'll get).

I find it very interesting that...

1) a team would cut their ex-captain's career short by 2-3 years
2) another team would only offer a role like that in the 2s

... if they believed he could still cope at the top level for another couple of years
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Football Factory on September 16, 2015, 11:15:23 AM
I like Bennell but don't want the Bombers to get him for obvious reasons  :-X  Freo will be happy if they can help Bennell over his problems (gun player)
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Football Factory on September 16, 2015, 11:17:44 AM
Quote from: Nige on September 16, 2015, 11:02:52 AM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on September 16, 2015, 10:58:57 AM
What a pathetic offer for Jed. I hope he doesn't entertain it
It's been said he believes he can still play at the top level and that he will keep looking for better offers (which I'm sure he'll get).
He wont take that crap, pretty motivated to play on at the top level for a few years, wont be playing ressies surely.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Nige on September 16, 2015, 11:37:02 AM
Quote from: Ricochet on September 16, 2015, 11:06:10 AM
Quote from: Nige on September 16, 2015, 11:02:52 AM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on September 16, 2015, 10:58:57 AM
What a pathetic offer for Jed. I hope he doesn't entertain it
It's been said he believes he can still play at the top level and that he will keep looking for better offers (which I'm sure he'll get).

I find it very interesting that...

1) a team would cut their ex-captain's career short by 2-3 years
2) another team would only offer a role like that in the 2s

... if they believed he could still cope at the top level for another couple of years
'The Suns are considering presenting an offer to former Lion captain Jed Adcock.

The Suns see Adcock playing a similar role to retired midfielder Andrew Raines, who was a leader of the NEAFL side but also a reliable call-up to the seniors whenever injury struck.

However Adcock will explore every available option as he believes he is still capable of playing every week at the elite level.

- Herald Sun"

- AFL Draft, Trade, Free Agency, List and General News page on Facebook.

Bit weird tbh.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: meow meow on September 16, 2015, 11:48:14 AM
Adcock was flowering awful this year. He played well in one game against a team that was half trying. Brisbane cut him for a reason.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: elephants on September 16, 2015, 11:57:14 AM
Quote from: meow meow on September 16, 2015, 11:48:14 AM
Adcock was flowering awful this year. He played well in one game against a team that was half trying. Brisbane cut him for a reason.

Agreed. Can't understand the love for him to be honest.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: RaisyDaisy on September 16, 2015, 12:02:24 PM
Quote from: elephants on September 16, 2015, 11:57:14 AM
Quote from: meow meow on September 16, 2015, 11:48:14 AM
Adcock was flowering awful this year. He played well in one game against a team that was half trying. Brisbane cut him for a reason.

Agreed. Can't understand the love for him to be honest.

To be fair, so was the rest of his team bar a couple. I don't love the guy at all, but just think he is still good enough for AFL when you see so many other spuds a lot worse than him getting a run. I just think he has more to offer
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Ricochet on September 16, 2015, 12:06:29 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on September 16, 2015, 12:02:24 PM
Quote from: elephants on September 16, 2015, 11:57:14 AM
Quote from: meow meow on September 16, 2015, 11:48:14 AM
Adcock was flowering awful this year. He played well in one game against a team that was half trying. Brisbane cut him for a reason.

Agreed. Can't understand the love for him to be honest.

To be fair, so was the rest of his team bar a couple. I don't love the guy at all, but just think he is still good enough for AFL when you see so many other spuds a lot worse than him getting a run. I just think he has more to offer
and yet two AFL teams don't. It's an interesting situation. Personally I didn't see it coming
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: elephants on September 16, 2015, 12:20:17 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on September 16, 2015, 12:02:24 PM
Quote from: elephants on September 16, 2015, 11:57:14 AM
Quote from: meow meow on September 16, 2015, 11:48:14 AM
Adcock was flowering awful this year. He played well in one game against a team that was half trying. Brisbane cut him for a reason.

Agreed. Can't understand the love for him to be honest.

To be fair, so was the rest of his team bar a couple. I don't love the guy at all, but just think he is still good enough for AFL when you see so many other spuds a lot worse than him getting a run. I just think he has more to offer

Difference is, he's spud nudging 30 haha. Fair to say his best footy is behind him imo
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: RaisyDaisy on September 16, 2015, 12:24:34 PM
Yeah it's interesting for sure. Personally I couldn't give a flower, but it does seem a little odd. I would have thought that any of the bottom teams could use him. Even his leadership ability to guide the up and coming kids in a young defense or something.

Ah well, we will just wait and see if anyone grabs him
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Football Factory on September 16, 2015, 12:34:40 PM
Yeah wouldn't want the Bombers to pick him up, but he is motivated to go on so he surely wouldn't except an offer like that.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Ricochet on September 16, 2015, 12:45:11 PM
Carlton are now interested in Lachie Plowman
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Money Shot on September 16, 2015, 01:13:15 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on September 16, 2015, 12:45:11 PM
Carlton are now interested in Lachie Plowman
Yay! We are picking up another fringe player ...
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: lachie_001 on September 16, 2015, 01:19:39 PM
Quote from: Nige on September 16, 2015, 10:57:38 AM
Stevo reckons Freo are faves to land Harley.

Pies (surprise surprise!) and Crows leading the race for Curtly Hampton.

Kreuzer failed medicals at the Pies and Dogs, expected to re-sign with the Blues.

Gorringe finally seeking a move away from the Gold Coast.

Suns considering offering Jed Adcock a similar deal to what they offered Andrew Raines - to lead the NEAFL side and play if injuries strike.

Woosha offered a 5 year contract by the Bombers to coach them.
Hampton would be a good fit for the crows, with our lack of pace. I think the crows should also have crack at Harley, we have some great indigenous role models in Eddie and Macca still at the club. I just think he would fit well, especially if danger leaves!
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: TomK on September 16, 2015, 02:18:29 PM
Apparently Hampton has chosen Adelaide

http://www.smh.com.au/afl/afl-news/magpies-beaten-as-giant-makes-crow-call-20150916-gjnn7t.html
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: MC on September 16, 2015, 04:18:58 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on September 16, 2015, 12:24:34 PM
Yeah it's interesting for sure. Personally I couldn't give a flower, but it does seem a little odd. I would have thought that any of the bottom teams could use him. Even his leadership ability to guide the up and coming kids in a young defense or something.

Ah well, we will just wait and see if anyone grabs him

Agree. Surely there's a bottom-tier club calling out for a former club captain who could help to lead the kids. Melbourne and StKilda spring to mind, obviously have a lot of young talent, but need some leaders to get them across the line in those tight games. Even Essendon could use him to help steady the ship... though the club that probably needs him the most is the club whose boot print is on his arse.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: MC on September 16, 2015, 04:20:05 PM
Quote from: TomK on September 16, 2015, 02:18:29 PM
Apparently Hampton has chosen Adelaide

http://www.smh.com.au/afl/afl-news/magpies-beaten-as-giant-makes-crow-call-20150916-gjnn7t.html

So who gets packaged with Treloar for Collingwood's picks?
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: kilbluff1985 on September 16, 2015, 04:31:07 PM
do u guys think this is fair


Z Smith + 2nd rounder for Bombers 1st pick
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: My Chumps on September 16, 2015, 04:43:47 PM
Quote from: Money Shot on September 16, 2015, 01:13:15 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on September 16, 2015, 12:45:11 PM
Carlton are now interested in Lachie Plowman
Yay! We are picking up another fringe player ...
Underrating the guy. He'd be a good pick.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Southstorm on September 16, 2015, 04:53:01 PM
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on September 16, 2015, 04:31:07 PM
do u guys think this is fair


Z Smith + 2nd rounder for Bombers 1st pick
Not worth it IMO. We'd get much better value from our first pick.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: silloc on September 16, 2015, 04:54:25 PM
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on September 16, 2015, 04:31:07 PM
do u guys think this is fair


Z Smith + 2nd rounder for Bombers 1st pick

god no, essendon aren't giving up that 4th pick for anything
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Spite on September 16, 2015, 04:55:54 PM
Quote from: silloc on September 16, 2015, 04:54:25 PM
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on September 16, 2015, 04:31:07 PM
do u guys think this is fair


Z Smith + 2nd rounder for Bombers 1st pick

god no, essendon aren't giving up that 4th pick for anything

4th - 7th pick :P
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: silloc on September 16, 2015, 04:59:04 PM
Quote from: Spite on September 16, 2015, 04:55:54 PM
Quote from: silloc on September 16, 2015, 04:54:25 PM
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on September 16, 2015, 04:31:07 PM
do u guys think this is fair


Z Smith + 2nd rounder for Bombers 1st pick

god no, essendon aren't giving up that 4th pick for anything

4th - 7th pick :P

Nobody is getting compo, so its a 4th pick
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Southstorm on September 16, 2015, 05:00:41 PM
I don't know about that, I think Kreuzer might see Carlton gifted a compensation pick but I don't think it's going to be as high as what's being bandied around at the moment.  ;D
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: silloc on September 16, 2015, 05:02:49 PM
Quote from: Southstorm on September 16, 2015, 05:00:41 PM
I don't know about that, I think Kreuzer might see Carlton gifted a compensation pick but I don't think it's going to be as high as what's being bandied around at the moment.  ;D

yeah, my point is nothing higher than essendons first pick, word on the street is he is staying anyway.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Spite on September 16, 2015, 05:16:44 PM
Quote from: silloc on September 16, 2015, 05:02:49 PM
Quote from: Southstorm on September 16, 2015, 05:00:41 PM
I don't know about that, I think Kreuzer might see Carlton gifted a compensation pick but I don't think it's going to be as high as what's being bandied around at the moment.  ;D

yeah, my point is nothing higher than essendons first pick, word on the street is he is staying anyway.

Could be correct, but until it happens you have no idea...The whole brisbane compo pick could come up again if more players walk too. Anything can happen, wouldn't say its locked in as pick number 4 by any stretch of the imagination
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: kilbluff1985 on September 16, 2015, 06:01:42 PM
just a thought

1st rounder plus Seedsman for Treloar could interest GWS
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Big Mac on September 16, 2015, 06:04:30 PM
Quote from: MC on September 16, 2015, 04:18:58 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on September 16, 2015, 12:24:34 PM
Yeah it's interesting for sure. Personally I couldn't give a flower, but it does seem a little odd. I would have thought that any of the bottom teams could use him. Even his leadership ability to guide the up and coming kids in a young defense or something.

Ah well, we will just wait and see if anyone grabs him

Agree. Surely there's a bottom-tier club calling out for a former club captain who could help to lead the kids. Melbourne and StKilda spring to mind, obviously have a lot of young talent, but need some leaders to get them across the line in those tight games. Even Essendon could use him to help steady the ship... though the club that probably needs him the most is the club whose boot print is on his arse.

3 weeks ago I might have said you were right about Melbourne

Now that Cross wasn't offered another contract though I doubt we'll be bringing in anyone purely for their 'experience'
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: MC on September 16, 2015, 06:09:04 PM
Yeah that's a fair point re: Dees
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: AaronKirk on September 16, 2015, 09:28:01 PM
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on September 16, 2015, 04:31:07 PM
do u guys think this is fair


Z Smith + 2nd rounder for Bombers 1st pick

We would be paying massive overs for Smith... no way.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Bill Manspeaker on September 16, 2015, 09:35:49 PM
yeah that's a shocker for Essendon fo sho
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: silloc on September 17, 2015, 09:58:50 AM
I think the word is that the top 6-8 picks are a cut above the rest. So clubs will be reluctant to give up that range.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: meow meow on September 17, 2015, 11:26:08 AM
Swans interested in Michael Talia.

Hrovat has asked to be traded, St Kilda and Melbourne interested.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Nige on September 17, 2015, 11:38:13 AM
Hrovat asking to be traded isn't too much of a surprise, I rate him and reckon he'd be a good fit at either the Saints or Dees.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Purple 77 on September 17, 2015, 11:40:55 AM
Quote from: Nige on September 17, 2015, 11:38:13 AM
Hrovat asking to be traded isn't too much of a surprise, I rate him and reckon he'd be a good fit at either the Saints or Dees.

My thoughts exactly!
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Torpedo10 on September 17, 2015, 11:42:30 AM
The Bombers should definitely go after a Hrovat, would be a really good suit.

I swear I heard them talking about a Carlisle for Billings deal on 7 last weekend, would be stoked if true.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: elephants on September 17, 2015, 11:44:16 AM
Quote from: Torpedo10 on September 17, 2015, 11:42:30 AM
I swear I heard them talking about a Carlisle for Billings deal on 7 last weekend, would be stoked if true.

About as much chance as Carlton winning the premiership this season!
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Torpedo10 on September 17, 2015, 11:47:58 AM
Quote from: elephants on September 17, 2015, 11:44:16 AM
Quote from: Torpedo10 on September 17, 2015, 11:42:30 AM
I swear I heard them talking about a Carlisle for Billings deal on 7 last weekend, would be stoked if true.

About as much chance as Carlton winning the premiership this season!
Haha I know, did a double take when I heard it. I'd be almost content with us also throwing in a 1st rounder for him too TBH if that's what it took.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: silloc on September 17, 2015, 12:20:44 PM
Quote from: Torpedo10 on September 17, 2015, 11:47:58 AM
Quote from: elephants on September 17, 2015, 11:44:16 AM
Quote from: Torpedo10 on September 17, 2015, 11:42:30 AM
I swear I heard them talking about a Carlisle for Billings deal on 7 last weekend, would be stoked if true.

About as much chance as Carlton winning the premiership this season!
Haha I know, did a double take when I heard it. I'd be almost content with us also throwing in a 1st rounder for him too TBH if that's what it took.

Melkshams a first rounder, they can take him :P
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Mat0369 on September 17, 2015, 03:03:32 PM
Quote from: meow meow on September 17, 2015, 11:26:08 AM
Hrovat has asked to be traded, St Kilda and Melbourne interested.

Sucks for him since you guys have quite a few players similar to him that are looking like better prospects. I wouldn't be surprised if quite a few clubs go after him which is good for the Dogs as it will lead to a bidding war.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Ricochet on September 17, 2015, 04:09:47 PM
Shaz has re-signed at collingwood
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: T Dog on September 17, 2015, 04:26:15 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on September 17, 2015, 04:09:47 PM
Shaz has re-signed at collingwood

;D ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: TomK on September 17, 2015, 04:31:25 PM
Good to see some loyalty but damn! :P
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Pkbaldy on September 17, 2015, 04:49:14 PM
Wonder for how much $$$
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Toga on September 17, 2015, 04:56:51 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on September 17, 2015, 04:09:47 PM
Shaz has re-signed at collingwood

*cues Tbag raging* :P
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: elephants on September 17, 2015, 04:58:46 PM
Quote from: Toga on September 17, 2015, 04:56:51 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on September 17, 2015, 04:09:47 PM
Shaz has re-signed at collingwood

*cues Tbag raging* :P

Dumbetriou!
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Big Mac on September 17, 2015, 08:17:35 PM
This Melksham to the Dees thing sounds like it actually might happen  :o

Sam McClure ‏@sam_mcclure  19 mins19 minutes ago
Essendon's Jake Melksham off to Melbourne. 4 x 400k deal. Melksham averaging 16 disposals over 114 games.

Is McClure reliable?
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: JBs-Hawks on September 17, 2015, 08:18:34 PM
Surely he isn't worth 400k
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Bill Manspeaker on September 17, 2015, 08:27:45 PM
Quote from: JBs-Hawks on September 17, 2015, 08:18:34 PM
Surely he isn't worth 400k

100% isn't worth it. don't do it Dees
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: kilbluff1985 on September 17, 2015, 08:29:01 PM
keep telling people sometimes you have to pay overs to get players
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Bill Manspeaker on September 17, 2015, 08:30:31 PM
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on September 17, 2015, 08:29:01 PM
keep telling people sometimes you have to pay overs to get players

yeah but Melksham isn't one of those players
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: kilbluff1985 on September 17, 2015, 09:29:40 PM
Quote from: Big  Mac on September 17, 2015, 08:17:35 PM
This Melksham to the Dees thing sounds like it actually might happen  :o

Sam McClure ‏@sam_mcclure  19 mins19 minutes ago
Essendon's Jake Melksham off to Melbourne. 4 x 400k deal. Melksham averaging 16 disposals over 114 games.

Is McClure reliable?

nope he watches the bachelor
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: RaisyDaisy on September 17, 2015, 10:29:32 PM
Guy I work with today asked me if I rated Melksham and if he would be a good get

Hell no I said. Hell no

Has his moments, but if you add them all up they equal to about 1 good full game a year. 400k is ridiculous
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Purple 77 on September 18, 2015, 08:50:31 AM
I call bull shower.

Surely Roos & co wouldn't target a Melksham type player? We have too many unskillful players as it is!

Even if we did chase him, I HIGHLY doubt we'd pay THAT much for him... Roos & co have shown they're not idiots?
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: silloc on September 18, 2015, 09:39:38 AM
melksham isn't unskillful, he has the potential to rip games apart. He was progressing nicely until bomber took over. I still think he is a bee's dick away from a breakout season. I feel like it would've been this season if the team wouldn't have failed so hard.

Don't think he is a bad cross replacement. Not as prolific, but still manages to positively impact play without getting possession.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Ricochet on September 18, 2015, 10:10:03 AM
Quote from: silloc on September 18, 2015, 09:39:38 AM
melksham isn't unskillful, he has the potential to rip games apart. He was progressing nicely until bomber took over. I still think he is a bee's dick away from a breakout season. I feel like it would've been this season if the team wouldn't have failed so hard.

Don't think he is a bad cross replacement. Not as prolific, but still manages to positively impact play without getting possession.
i agree mate
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: kilbluff1985 on September 18, 2015, 10:21:13 AM
yeah i'm not sure how anyone can call him unskillful he is a very reliable kick at goal

his issue is consistency some player thrive at a new club like Bernie Vince

his contract would probably front loaded anyway
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Football Factory on September 18, 2015, 10:53:52 AM
Might be a good move for him to go to the dees for a fresh start. Pick 10 2009 Nat

Is he worth 400k a year ? not sure. If Roos and co think he's worth it then I guess you have to back his judgement.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: H1bb3i2d on September 18, 2015, 11:16:04 AM
He's got a hell of a kick on the outside and had a very strong inside game as a youngster, just never found the consistency as guys above have said. Maybe given more opportunity he could flourish?
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: elephants on September 18, 2015, 11:18:53 AM
Jesus that is filthy overs. 400k for 4 years for a younger Matt Jones with slightly more upside? :s
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: RaisyDaisy on September 18, 2015, 11:45:52 AM
Agree that he would be handy at Melbourne, but the salary is overs

I guess you need to pay overs when bringing in talent from another club

On a separate note, I just noticed Jed Adcock finished 9th in the clubs B&F. Just even more LOL that they dumped him
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: silloc on September 18, 2015, 11:48:15 AM
Quote from: elephants on September 18, 2015, 11:18:53 AM
Jesus that is filthy overs. 400k for 4 years for a younger Matt Jones with slightly more upside? :s

Well that's what I thought about what Adelaide paid for betts... they obviously saw something I didn't
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Rusty00 on September 18, 2015, 11:52:11 AM
Quote from: silloc on September 18, 2015, 11:48:15 AM
Quote from: elephants on September 18, 2015, 11:18:53 AM
Jesus that is filthy overs. 400k for 4 years for a younger Matt Jones with slightly more upside? :s

Well that's what I thought about what Adelaide paid for betts... they obviously saw something I didn't
To be fair on yourself most people (especially here in Adelaide) thought it was paying over for Betts. Those people don't seem to be complaining now :P
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Jay on September 18, 2015, 11:55:48 AM
Quote from: Rusty00 on September 18, 2015, 11:52:11 AM
Quote from: silloc on September 18, 2015, 11:48:15 AM
Quote from: elephants on September 18, 2015, 11:18:53 AM
Jesus that is filthy overs. 400k for 4 years for a younger Matt Jones with slightly more upside? :s

Well that's what I thought about what Adelaide paid for betts... they obviously saw something I didn't
To be fair on yourself most people (especially here in Adelaide) thought it was paying over for Betts. Those people don't seem to be complaining now :P
People thought that? :o
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Dudge on September 18, 2015, 12:11:40 PM
Quote from: Jayman on September 18, 2015, 11:55:48 AM
Quote from: Rusty00 on September 18, 2015, 11:52:11 AM
Quote from: silloc on September 18, 2015, 11:48:15 AM
Quote from: elephants on September 18, 2015, 11:18:53 AM
Jesus that is filthy overs. 400k for 4 years for a younger Matt Jones with slightly more upside? :s

Well that's what I thought about what Adelaide paid for betts... they obviously saw something I didn't
To be fair on yourself most people (especially here in Adelaide) thought it was paying over for Betts. Those people don't seem to be complaining now :P
People thought that? :o

I'm afraid I did at the time, but now eating humble pie :-[
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: elephants on September 18, 2015, 12:13:40 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on September 18, 2015, 11:45:52 AM
Agree that he would be handy at Melbourne, but the salary is overs

I guess you need to pay overs when bringing in talent from another club

On a separate note, I just noticed Jed Adcock finished 9th in the clubs B&F. Just even more LOL that they dumped him

I woulda finished 9th in Brisbane's B&F :p pretty sure he only finished that high because of the number of games he played hahaha
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Rusty00 on September 18, 2015, 12:22:08 PM
Quote from: Jayman on September 18, 2015, 11:55:48 AM
Quote from: Rusty00 on September 18, 2015, 11:52:11 AM
Quote from: silloc on September 18, 2015, 11:48:15 AM
Quote from: elephants on September 18, 2015, 11:18:53 AM
Jesus that is filthy overs. 400k for 4 years for a younger Matt Jones with slightly more upside? :s

Well that's what I thought about what Adelaide paid for betts... they obviously saw something I didn't
To be fair on yourself most people (especially here in Adelaide) thought it was paying over for Betts. Those people don't seem to be complaining now :P
People thought that? :o
A lot of people at the time were questioning whether the money was worth it given he'd just come off a really average season at Carlton.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: powersuperkents on September 18, 2015, 01:04:05 PM
Heard a Seedsman to Nth Melbourne rumour.

I don't think it's true as he is a die hard Magpies supporter

But could be as Collingwood try to free up money for the transfer period
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: RaisyDaisy on September 18, 2015, 01:19:49 PM
Quote from: powersuperkents on September 18, 2015, 01:04:05 PM
Heard a Seedsman to Nth Melbourne rumour.

I don't think it's true as he is a die hard Magpies supporter

But could be as Collingwood try to free up money for the transfer period

Been in the news for a few days now
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: elephants on September 18, 2015, 01:54:22 PM
SEN reporting that the Bombers want Jeremy Howe and a First Round Pick for Jake Melksham.

How flowering high are they?
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: powersuperkents on September 18, 2015, 02:08:32 PM
Quote from: elephants on September 18, 2015, 01:54:22 PM
SEN reporting that the Bombers want Jeremy Howe and a First Round Pick for Jake Melksham.

How flowering high are they?
Nice pun  :P

Bombers are stubborn at the trade table. Teams would consider a trading period a win if they avoid negotiations with the Bombers

Honestly, don't rate Melksham, one of the worse top 10 draft picks in recent times
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: kilbluff1985 on September 18, 2015, 02:11:19 PM
u believe anything SEN says?
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: elephants on September 18, 2015, 02:16:32 PM
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on September 18, 2015, 02:11:19 PM
u believe anything SEN says?

Mate, on form its pretty believable
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: silloc on September 18, 2015, 02:23:40 PM
Quote from: powersuperkents on September 18, 2015, 02:08:32 PM
Quote from: elephants on September 18, 2015, 01:54:22 PM
SEN reporting that the Bombers want Jeremy Howe and a First Round Pick for Jake Melksham.

How flowering high are they?
Nice pun  :P

Bombers are stubborn at the trade table. Teams would consider a trading period a win if they avoid negotiations with the Bombers

Honestly, don't rate Melksham, one of the worse top 10 draft picks in recent times

Gary rohan, Andrew moore, and john butcher were all top tens in that draft. All worse than melksham
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Pkbaldy on September 18, 2015, 02:46:32 PM
Quote from: silloc on September 18, 2015, 02:23:40 PM
Quote from: powersuperkents on September 18, 2015, 02:08:32 PM
Quote from: elephants on September 18, 2015, 01:54:22 PM
SEN reporting that the Bombers want Jeremy Howe and a First Round Pick for Jake Melksham.

How flowering high are they?
Nice pun  :P

Bombers are stubborn at the trade table. Teams would consider a trading period a win if they avoid negotiations with the Bombers

Honestly, don't rate Melksham, one of the worse top 10 draft picks in recent times

Gary rohan, Andrew moore, and john butcher were all top tens in that draft. All worse than melksham

Debatable... haha
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: H1bb3i2d on September 18, 2015, 02:50:51 PM
Quote from: Pkbaldy on September 18, 2015, 02:46:32 PM
Quote from: silloc on September 18, 2015, 02:23:40 PM
Quote from: powersuperkents on September 18, 2015, 02:08:32 PM
Quote from: elephants on September 18, 2015, 01:54:22 PM
SEN reporting that the Bombers want Jeremy Howe and a First Round Pick for Jake Melksham.

How flowering high are they?
Nice pun  :P

Bombers are stubborn at the trade table. Teams would consider a trading period a win if they avoid negotiations with the Bombers

Honestly, don't rate Melksham, one of the worse top 10 draft picks in recent times

Gary rohan, Andrew moore, and john butcher were all top tens in that draft. All worse than melksham

Debatable... haha

His tally of 114 games says otherwise.

Anyway, if the Dees throw in maybe a Brayshaw type then I think it's a pretty fair deal. Similar type of player, right?
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: elephants on September 18, 2015, 02:54:36 PM
Quote from: H1bb3i2d on September 18, 2015, 02:50:51 PM
Quote from: Pkbaldy on September 18, 2015, 02:46:32 PM
Quote from: silloc on September 18, 2015, 02:23:40 PM
Quote from: powersuperkents on September 18, 2015, 02:08:32 PM
Quote from: elephants on September 18, 2015, 01:54:22 PM
SEN reporting that the Bombers want Jeremy Howe and a First Round Pick for Jake Melksham.

How flowering high are they?
Nice pun  :P

Bombers are stubborn at the trade table. Teams would consider a trading period a win if they avoid negotiations with the Bombers

Honestly, don't rate Melksham, one of the worse top 10 draft picks in recent times

Gary rohan, Andrew moore, and john butcher were all top tens in that draft. All worse than melksham

Debatable... haha

His tally of 114 games says otherwise.

Anyway, if the Dees throw in maybe a Brayshaw type then I think it's a pretty fair deal. Similar type of player, right?

Gotta change ya name to Dodoro!
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: kilbluff1985 on September 18, 2015, 02:58:00 PM
yeah Brayshaw for milkshake made me lol
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: silloc on September 18, 2015, 02:59:41 PM
Quote from: H1bb3i2d on September 18, 2015, 02:50:51 PM
Quote from: Pkbaldy on September 18, 2015, 02:46:32 PM
Quote from: silloc on September 18, 2015, 02:23:40 PM
Quote from: powersuperkents on September 18, 2015, 02:08:32 PM
Quote from: elephants on September 18, 2015, 01:54:22 PM
SEN reporting that the Bombers want Jeremy Howe and a First Round Pick for Jake Melksham.

How flowering high are they?
Nice pun  :P

Bombers are stubborn at the trade table. Teams would consider a trading period a win if they avoid negotiations with the Bombers

Honestly, don't rate Melksham, one of the worse top 10 draft picks in recent times

Gary rohan, Andrew moore, and john butcher were all top tens in that draft. All worse than melksham

Debatable... haha

His tally of 114 games says otherwise.

Anyway, if the Dees throw in maybe a Brayshaw type then I think it's a pretty fair deal. Similar type of player, right?

Yeah I actually think howe for melksham and a pick wouldn't be too ludicrous
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: silloc on September 18, 2015, 03:06:54 PM
"Aidan Riley, Rohan Bail, Jordie McKenzie and Jack Fitzpatrick have all been delisted."

Fitzpatrick is worth a second chance I would've thought
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: powersuperkents on September 18, 2015, 03:16:04 PM
Quote from: H1bb3i2d on September 18, 2015, 02:50:51 PM
Quote from: Pkbaldy on September 18, 2015, 02:46:32 PM
Quote from: silloc on September 18, 2015, 02:23:40 PM
Quote from: powersuperkents on September 18, 2015, 02:08:32 PM
Quote from: elephants on September 18, 2015, 01:54:22 PM
SEN reporting that the Bombers want Jeremy Howe and a First Round Pick for Jake Melksham.

How flowering high are they?
Nice pun  :P

Bombers are stubborn at the trade table. Teams would consider a trading period a win if they avoid negotiations with the Bombers

Honestly, don't rate Melksham, one of the worse top 10 draft picks in recent times

Gary rohan, Andrew moore, and john butcher were all top tens in that draft. All worse than melksham

Debatable... haha

His tally of 114 games says otherwise.

Anyway, if the Dees throw in maybe a Brayshaw type then I think it's a pretty fair deal. Similar type of player, right?
Quality over quantity  :P

And I would say Rohan is the best in the crop

Melksham, (and as a Port supporter these two are disappointing) Butcher, & Moore are all pretty comparable. The only difference is Bombers fans get to see how bad Melksham is every week hahaha
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: silloc on September 18, 2015, 03:45:16 PM
Quote from: powersuperkents on September 18, 2015, 03:16:04 PM
Quote from: H1bb3i2d on September 18, 2015, 02:50:51 PM
Quote from: Pkbaldy on September 18, 2015, 02:46:32 PM
Quote from: silloc on September 18, 2015, 02:23:40 PM
Quote from: powersuperkents on September 18, 2015, 02:08:32 PM
Quote from: elephants on September 18, 2015, 01:54:22 PM
SEN reporting that the Bombers want Jeremy Howe and a First Round Pick for Jake Melksham.

How flowering high are they?
Nice pun  :P

Bombers are stubborn at the trade table. Teams would consider a trading period a win if they avoid negotiations with the Bombers

Honestly, don't rate Melksham, one of the worse top 10 draft picks in recent times

Gary rohan, Andrew moore, and john butcher were all top tens in that draft. All worse than melksham

Debatable... haha

His tally of 114 games says otherwise.

Anyway, if the Dees throw in maybe a Brayshaw type then I think it's a pretty fair deal. Similar type of player, right?
Quality over quantity  :P

And I would say Rohan is the best in the crop

Melksham, (and as a Port supporter these two are disappointing) Butcher, & Moore are all pretty comparable. The only difference is Bombers fans get to see how bad Melksham is every week hahaha

lol

I know we only said top 10, but worth noting Kane Lucas and Jordan Gysberts were straight after melksham

ps* gary rohan does one good thing a game and everyone wants to suck his dick
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Big Mac on September 18, 2015, 03:49:57 PM
Quote from: silloc on September 18, 2015, 03:45:16 PM
Quote from: powersuperkents on September 18, 2015, 03:16:04 PM
Quote from: H1bb3i2d on September 18, 2015, 02:50:51 PM
Quote from: Pkbaldy on September 18, 2015, 02:46:32 PM
Quote from: silloc on September 18, 2015, 02:23:40 PM
Quote from: powersuperkents on September 18, 2015, 02:08:32 PM
Quote from: elephants on September 18, 2015, 01:54:22 PM
SEN reporting that the Bombers want Jeremy Howe and a First Round Pick for Jake Melksham.

How flowering high are they?
Nice pun  :P

Bombers are stubborn at the trade table. Teams would consider a trading period a win if they avoid negotiations with the Bombers

Honestly, don't rate Melksham, one of the worse top 10 draft picks in recent times

Gary rohan, Andrew moore, and john butcher were all top tens in that draft. All worse than melksham

Debatable... haha

His tally of 114 games says otherwise.

Anyway, if the Dees throw in maybe a Brayshaw type then I think it's a pretty fair deal. Similar type of player, right?
Quality over quantity  :P

And I would say Rohan is the best in the crop

Melksham, (and as a Port supporter these two are disappointing) Butcher, & Moore are all pretty comparable. The only difference is Bombers fans get to see how bad Melksham is every week hahaha

lol

I know we only said top 10, but worth noting Kane Lucas and Jordan Gysberts were straight after melksham

Not exactly setting the bar very high :P

I know what you mean, but it still doesn't convince me he's worth 400k
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Big Mac on September 18, 2015, 03:58:01 PM
Quote from: silloc on September 18, 2015, 03:06:54 PM
"Aidan Riley, Rohan Bail, Jordie McKenzie and Jack Fitzpatrick have all been delisted."

Fitzpatrick is worth a second chance I would've thought

Such an awkward player given his height, rare speed and non-existent marking ability

I'm sure some team could use him, but how I don't know.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Ziplock on September 18, 2015, 04:30:58 PM
Quote from: Big  Mac on September 18, 2015, 03:58:01 PM
Quote from: silloc on September 18, 2015, 03:06:54 PM
"Aidan Riley, Rohan Bail, Jordie McKenzie and Jack Fitzpatrick have all been delisted."

Fitzpatrick is worth a second chance I would've thought

Such an awkward player given his height, rare speed and non-existent marking ability

I'm sure some team could use him, but how I don't know.

a bunch of the boys from school played in the same AFL team. When they were like 16, one of them Tim was really tall, like 6ft 4... but he was also super unco. So the coach's game plan was
'Ok everyone, the other team's going to think Tim's really good, because he's tall, and we're going to make them think that by calling Tim awesome and stuff.'
*everyone nods*
'But what they don't know if that Tim can't catch a ball or kick straight'
*Tim nods*
'So we're actually going to kick it to Ollie!' (One of the kids who at one point ended up on an AFL rookie list)
*Everyone nods*
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: nas on September 18, 2015, 05:33:48 PM
Quote from: Ziplock on September 18, 2015, 04:30:58 PM
Quote from: Big  Mac on September 18, 2015, 03:58:01 PM
Quote from: silloc on September 18, 2015, 03:06:54 PM
"Aidan Riley, Rohan Bail, Jordie McKenzie and Jack Fitzpatrick have all been delisted."

Fitzpatrick is worth a second chance I would've thought

Such an awkward player given his height, rare speed and non-existent marking ability

I'm sure some team could use him, but how I don't know.

a bunch of the boys from school played in the same AFL team. When they were like 16, one of them Tim was really tall, like 6ft 4... but he was also super unco. So the coach's game plan was
'Ok everyone, the other team's going to think Tim's really good, because he's tall, and we're going to make them think that by calling Tim awesome and stuff.'
*everyone nods*
'But what they don't know if that Tim can't catch a ball or kick straight'
*Tim nods*
'So we're actually going to kick it to Ollie!' (One of the kids who at one point ended up on an AFL rookie list)
*Everyone nods*

Sounds like Butcher from Power
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Purple 77 on September 18, 2015, 05:36:15 PM
Quote from: elephants on September 18, 2015, 01:54:22 PM
SEN reporting that the Bombers want Jeremy Howe and a First Round Pick for Jake Melksham.

How flowering high are they?

Reckon we'll take essendons first round draft pick to pretend that offer ever happened. Lol what a joke if true.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Nige on September 18, 2015, 05:39:03 PM
Glen Jakovich has told 6PR Sports just now "I've confirmed it, John Worsfold will be the coach of the Essendon Football Club in 2016 with Guy McKenna his assistant"
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: AaronKirk on September 18, 2015, 05:46:18 PM
Quote from: Nige on September 18, 2015, 05:39:03 PM
Glen Jakovich has told 6PR Sports just now "I've confirmed it, John Worsfold will be the coach of the Essendon Football Club in 2016 with Guy McKenna his assistant"

That was last weeks news that it was going to happen (Brian Taylor said that on MMM on the Sunday Rub)

But having Jakovich put his name to it probably would suggest that it would be a strong chance of happening.

Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Big Mac on September 18, 2015, 06:51:31 PM
Quote from: Purple 77 on September 18, 2015, 05:36:15 PM
Quote from: elephants on September 18, 2015, 01:54:22 PM
SEN reporting that the Bombers want Jeremy Howe and a First Round Pick for Jake Melksham.

How flowering high are they?

Reckon we'll take essendons first round draft pick to pretend that offer ever happened. Lol what a joke if true.

Honestly don't even think he's worth our second rounder
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: RaisyDaisy on September 18, 2015, 07:35:22 PM
Jon Ralph saying Yarran has told Carlton he isn't coming back, and that at least 4 clubs are interested in Stevie J
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Jukes on September 18, 2015, 07:45:53 PM
Quote from: Purple 77 on September 18, 2015, 05:36:15 PM
Quote from: elephants on September 18, 2015, 01:54:22 PM
SEN reporting that the Bombers want Jeremy Howe and a First Round Pick for Jake Melksham.

How flowering high are they?

Reckon we'll take essendons first round draft pick to pretend that offer ever happened. Lol what a joke if true.

We should have gone low and offered to receive as little as possible like pick 99, because that's smart business. Who would seriously try to get good players/deals.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Mat0369 on September 18, 2015, 08:40:40 PM
Quote from: silloc on September 18, 2015, 11:48:15 AM
Well that's what I thought about what Adelaide paid for betts... they obviously saw something I didn't

Please don't ever compare Jake Melksham with Eddie Betts ever again.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: powersuperkents on September 18, 2015, 09:28:12 PM
Quote from: Mat0369 on September 18, 2015, 08:40:40 PM
Quote from: silloc on September 18, 2015, 11:48:15 AM
Well that's what I thought about what Adelaide paid for betts... they obviously saw something I didn't

Please don't ever compare Jake Melksham with Eddie Betts ever again.
The difference... Betts is a good player  :P hahahaha

Melksham is worth a late 2nd round pick to early 3rd round pick at the most... Out of contract and could just re-enter the draft (Essendon would probably select with pick 4 to spite him hahaha)
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: shaker on September 19, 2015, 09:14:19 AM
Assuming Melksham is one under the WADA cloud why would any club entertain drafting any of those Bomber players until it is resolved  :o
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Ringo on September 19, 2015, 11:51:19 AM
Charlie Dixon looks set to join Port Adelaide - Only issue is trade Currently Port are believed to offered First Round pick but Suns may want also next years first round as well so some negotiation but deal will be done.

Harley Bennell is the interesting one and the Suns will no doubt try and get the best offer. He has already spoken to Freo and Richmond with Geelong and North also making enquiries. Suspicion that Hawthorn will also enter the race after the finals.

It would appear that there is some speculation that with the injuries the Suns have suffered this year that there are concerns Elite Fitness levels are not where they should be and that is why Port (With former Suns coaching staff Hinkley and Hart) are taking the risk with Dixon who has not played a full season as yet.  In fact this year was the most games he has played in a season.

Yarran reportedly going to Tigers.

Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: powersuperkents on September 19, 2015, 12:23:48 PM
Good point about Dixon's fitness mate - so caught up in the idea of getting our first genuine key forward since Tredrea (love Schulz but he's a second tall, not first).

Regarding Port giving its first round pick next year, I think that is fair enough. Youth isn't an issue at Port, our first rounder should be between picks 12-18, and the Suns have been more than reasonable supporting Dixon through all this (not like Essendon in the Ryder deal, which was the complete opposite, no bargaining position yet they wanted more than they were ever going to get - their request for one of Hartlett, Wingard, or Wines, for a player who was going to sue them anyway, is still the most ridiculous thing I've heard).   

Hopefully a preseason at Port fixes Dixon up  :P
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: H1bb3i2d on September 19, 2015, 01:39:26 PM
From an objective point of view, what's Howe's salary at? I'm pretty sure it's not that much, if at all more that $400k a year.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Big Mac on September 19, 2015, 02:03:57 PM
Quote from: H1bb3i2d on September 19, 2015, 01:39:26 PM
From an objective point of view, what's Howe's salary at? I'm pretty sure it's not that much, if at all more that $400k a year.

Would only be about 300k

Has apparently asked for 500k+ for his new deal, but obviously won't get that anywhere
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: jvalles69 on September 19, 2015, 06:07:01 PM
Word is Cats are going to offer Danger a 5 year deal but Crows will match it...
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: TomK on September 19, 2015, 06:28:57 PM
Good.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: jvalles69 on September 19, 2015, 06:32:51 PM
Quote from: TomK on September 19, 2015, 06:28:57 PM
Good.

Well he doesn't really have any other option, if he still doesn't want to stay it means he goes into the draft, no team who has a pick before Geelong will pass on him.  Think he'd be happy staying with the Crows.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: TomK on September 19, 2015, 06:46:28 PM
Quote from: jvalles69 on September 19, 2015, 06:32:51 PM
Quote from: TomK on September 19, 2015, 06:28:57 PM
Good.

Well he doesn't really have any other option, if he still doesn't want to stay it means he goes into the draft, no team who has a pick before Geelong will pass on him.  Think he'd be happy staying with the Crows.
Not necessarily, if we match, we'd just be sending Geelong into a trade with us. Absolutely no way Danger would risk the PSD and since he has chosen to leave (pretty obvious now), I personally don't want him to stay if we were to match and he had that option. Most Crows fans just don't want to be shafted with the compo we'd get.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Jay on September 19, 2015, 06:51:29 PM
Quote from: TomK on September 19, 2015, 06:46:28 PM
Quote from: jvalles69 on September 19, 2015, 06:32:51 PM
Quote from: TomK on September 19, 2015, 06:28:57 PM
Good.

Well he doesn't really have any other option, if he still doesn't want to stay it means he goes into the draft, no team who has a pick before Geelong will pass on him.  Think he'd be happy staying with the Crows.
Not necessarily, if we match, we'd just be sending Geelong into a trade with us. Absolutely no way Danger would risk the PSD and since he has chosen to leave (pretty obvious now), I personally don't want him to stay if we were to match and he had that option. Most Crows fans just don't want to be shafted with the compo we'd get.
This ^
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Pkbaldy on September 19, 2015, 08:30:14 PM
Quote from: TomK on September 19, 2015, 06:46:28 PM
Quote from: jvalles69 on September 19, 2015, 06:32:51 PM
Quote from: TomK on September 19, 2015, 06:28:57 PM
Good.

Well he doesn't really have any other option, if he still doesn't want to stay it means he goes into the draft, no team who has a pick before Geelong will pass on him.  Think he'd be happy staying with the Crows.
Not necessarily, if we match, we'd just be sending Geelong into a trade with us. Absolutely no way Danger would risk the PSD and since he has chosen to leave (pretty obvious now), I personally don't want him to stay if we were to match and he had that option. Most Crows fans just don't want to be shafted with the compo we'd get.

Oh my god!! Geelong will be paying overs to the MAX for him.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: jvalles69 on September 19, 2015, 08:42:45 PM
Quote from: TomK on September 19, 2015, 06:46:28 PM
Quote from: jvalles69 on September 19, 2015, 06:32:51 PM
Quote from: TomK on September 19, 2015, 06:28:57 PM
Good.

Well he doesn't really have any other option, if he still doesn't want to stay it means he goes into the draft, no team who has a pick before Geelong will pass on him.  Think he'd be happy staying with the Crows.
Not necessarily, if we match, we'd just be sending Geelong into a trade with us. Absolutely no way Danger would risk the PSD and since he has chosen to leave (pretty obvious now), I personally don't want him to stay if we were to match and he had that option. Most Crows fans just don't want to be shafted with the compo we'd get.

Yeah sorry, I forgot that was the other option...
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: AaronKirk on September 19, 2015, 09:34:56 PM
Quote from: jvalles69 on September 19, 2015, 06:07:01 PM
Word is Cats are going to offer Danger a 5 year deal but Crows will match it...

Will they match over $1m a season?
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Jay on September 19, 2015, 09:59:56 PM
Quote from: AaronKirk on September 19, 2015, 09:34:56 PM
Quote from: jvalles69 on September 19, 2015, 06:07:01 PM
Word is Cats are going to offer Danger a 5 year deal but Crows will match it...

Will they match over $1m a season?
Pick a number. They'll match it.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: powersuperkents on September 19, 2015, 11:25:23 PM
Quote from: Jayman on September 19, 2015, 09:59:56 PM
Quote from: AaronKirk on September 19, 2015, 09:34:56 PM
Quote from: jvalles69 on September 19, 2015, 06:07:01 PM
Word is Cats are going to offer Danger a 5 year deal but Crows will match it...

Will they match over $1m a season?
Pick a number. They'll match it.
I thought the Crows would easily get 1st round compo for Dangerfield

They cannot complain now though, they were offered both picks 2 & 3 last season for him and turned it down.

I know they are matching it so they can trade him and get something out of Geelong. But I don't really agree with it, Dangerfield has respected his contract with the Crows and hasn't formally said anything about his decision, as a professional athlete should. The Crows should respect him for it and the services he's provided, let him go, and collect the compo.

Making the process difficult for Dangerfield would be perceived negatively around the AFL. Especially when the logical choice (even at the time people criticised the Crows decision to turn down the Demon's offer) was rejected by the Crows last year. Either way the Crows have won. They have had a fantastic player for the last 5-7 years and will get first round compo upon his departure. Sounds like a win-win for everyone involved.

Don't think the Crows can match $1mil per season with Tex, Betts, & a recently contracted Sloane as well tbh (Danger already cashes in $600k per season...). They have already been in trouble with Tippett and if they somehow offer over $1mil per season, I don't think it would be worth having the AFL investing their books  :P
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Jay on September 19, 2015, 11:35:56 PM
Quote from: powersuperkents on September 19, 2015, 11:25:23 PM
Quote from: Jayman on September 19, 2015, 09:59:56 PM
Quote from: AaronKirk on September 19, 2015, 09:34:56 PM
Quote from: jvalles69 on September 19, 2015, 06:07:01 PM
Word is Cats are going to offer Danger a 5 year deal but Crows will match it...

Will they match over $1m a season?
Pick a number. They'll match it.
I thought the Crows would easily get 1st round compo for Dangerfield

They cannot complain now though, they were offered both picks 2 & 3 last season for him and turned it down.

I know they are matching it so they can trade him and get something out of Geelong. But I don't really agree with it, Dangerfield has respected his contract with the Crows and hasn't formally said anything about his decision, as a professional athlete should. The Crows should respect him for it and the services he's provided, let him go, and collect the compo.

Making the process difficult for Dangerfield would be perceived negatively around the AFL. Especially when the logical choice (even at the time people criticised the Crows decision to turn down the Demon's offer) was rejected by the Crows last year. Either way the Crows have won. They have had a fantastic player for the last 5-7 years and will get first round compo upon his departure. Sounds like a win-win for everyone involved.

Don't think the Crows can match $1mil per season with Tex, Betts, & a recently contracted Sloane as well tbh (Danger already cashes in $600k per season...). They have already been in trouble with Tippett and if they somehow offer over $1mil per season, I don't think it would be worth having the AFL investing their books  :P
Yeah but we have the right to match! Why not use it if it's the best thing for the club?
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: TomK on September 19, 2015, 11:50:24 PM
Quote from: powersuperkents on September 19, 2015, 11:25:23 PM
Quote from: Jayman on September 19, 2015, 09:59:56 PM
Quote from: AaronKirk on September 19, 2015, 09:34:56 PM
Quote from: jvalles69 on September 19, 2015, 06:07:01 PM
Word is Cats are going to offer Danger a 5 year deal but Crows will match it...

Will they match over $1m a season?
Pick a number. They'll match it.
I thought the Crows would easily get 1st round compo for Dangerfield

They cannot complain now though, they were offered both picks 2 & 3 last season for him and turned it down.

I know they are matching it so they can trade him and get something out of Geelong. But I don't really agree with it, Dangerfield has respected his contract with the Crows and hasn't formally said anything about his decision, as a professional athlete should. The Crows should respect him for it and the services he's provided, let him go, and collect the compo.

Making the process difficult for Dangerfield would be perceived negatively around the AFL. Especially when the logical choice (even at the time people criticised the Crows decision to turn down the Demon's offer) was rejected by the Crows last year. Either way the Crows have won. They have had a fantastic player for the last 5-7 years and will get first round compo upon his departure. Sounds like a win-win for everyone involved.

Don't think the Crows can match $1mil per season with Tex, Betts, & a recently contracted Sloane as well tbh (Danger already cashes in $600k per season...). They have already been in trouble with Tippett and if they somehow offer over $1mil per season, I don't think it would be worth having the AFL investing their books  :P
What a load of shower.

First of all, Melbourne did not offer 2 & 3, it was all speculation and Danger would never had agreed to go to the Dees, he always intended on fulfilling his contract.

''The Crows should respect him for it and the services he's provided, let him go, and collect the compo.'' Oh turn it up! As soon as Danger accepts Geelongs offer, he is the enemy just like Geelong are and forcing them to trade for him would weaken them. Why on earth would we just roll over and give in? He is a top 5 player in the league and you think we should just accept pick 13-15 or whatever saying it is a ''win-win''? Far out, a mid 1st rounder is not a flowering 'win'. He is at least worth two top 10 picks and getting a mid 1st rounder in a weak draft is a load of shower.

I don't think the club would actually give a flower if it was perceived negatively around the AFL. When we lose immense talent all the time such as Danger, Gunston, Tippett, Davis and Bock, giving in and taking the compo is a terrible decision and the supporters will be furious, we're sick of it.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: jvalles69 on September 20, 2015, 12:25:11 AM
Quote from: TomK on September 19, 2015, 11:50:24 PM
Quote from: powersuperkents on September 19, 2015, 11:25:23 PM
Quote from: Jayman on September 19, 2015, 09:59:56 PM
Quote from: AaronKirk on September 19, 2015, 09:34:56 PM
Quote from: jvalles69 on September 19, 2015, 06:07:01 PM
Word is Cats are going to offer Danger a 5 year deal but Crows will match it...

Will they match over $1m a season?
Pick a number. They'll match it.
I thought the Crows would easily get 1st round compo for Dangerfield

They cannot complain now though, they were offered both picks 2 & 3 last season for him and turned it down.

I know they are matching it so they can trade him and get something out of Geelong. But I don't really agree with it, Dangerfield has respected his contract with the Crows and hasn't formally said anything about his decision, as a professional athlete should. The Crows should respect him for it and the services he's provided, let him go, and collect the compo.

Making the process difficult for Dangerfield would be perceived negatively around the AFL. Especially when the logical choice (even at the time people criticised the Crows decision to turn down the Demon's offer) was rejected by the Crows last year. Either way the Crows have won. They have had a fantastic player for the last 5-7 years and will get first round compo upon his departure. Sounds like a win-win for everyone involved.

Don't think the Crows can match $1mil per season with Tex, Betts, & a recently contracted Sloane as well tbh (Danger already cashes in $600k per season...). They have already been in trouble with Tippett and if they somehow offer over $1mil per season, I don't think it would be worth having the AFL investing their books  :P
What a load of shower.

First of all, Melbourne did not offer 2 & 3, it was all speculation and Danger would never had agreed to go to the Dees, he always intended on fulfilling his contract.

''The Crows should respect him for it and the services he's provided, let him go, and collect the compo.'' Oh turn it up! As soon as Danger accepts Geelongs offer, he is the enemy just like Geelong are and forcing them to trade for him would weaken them. Why on earth would we just roll over and give in? He is a top 5 player in the league and you think we should just accept pick 13-15 or whatever saying it is a ''win-win''? Far out, a mid 1st rounder is not a flowering 'win'. He is at least worth two top 10 picks and getting a mid 1st rounder in a weak draft is a load of shower.

I don't think the club would actually give a flower if it was perceived negatively around the AFL. When we lose immense talent all the time such as Danger, Gunston, Tippett, Davis and Bock, giving in and taking the compo is a terrible decision and the supporters will be furious, we're sick of it.

On top of that I think Danger seems like the type of guy who would want Crows to get as good as they can for him.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: kilbluff1985 on September 20, 2015, 12:34:42 AM
yeah PSK i agree with them your logic is meh
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: powersuperkents on September 20, 2015, 12:52:38 AM
Quote from: TomK on September 19, 2015, 11:50:24 PM
Quote from: powersuperkents on September 19, 2015, 11:25:23 PM
Quote from: Jayman on September 19, 2015, 09:59:56 PM
Quote from: AaronKirk on September 19, 2015, 09:34:56 PM
Quote from: jvalles69 on September 19, 2015, 06:07:01 PM
Word is Cats are going to offer Danger a 5 year deal but Crows will match it...

Will they match over $1m a season?
Pick a number. They'll match it.
I thought the Crows would easily get 1st round compo for Dangerfield

They cannot complain now though, they were offered both picks 2 & 3 last season for him and turned it down.

I know they are matching it so they can trade him and get something out of Geelong. But I don't really agree with it, Dangerfield has respected his contract with the Crows and hasn't formally said anything about his decision, as a professional athlete should. The Crows should respect him for it and the services he's provided, let him go, and collect the compo.

Making the process difficult for Dangerfield would be perceived negatively around the AFL. Especially when the logical choice (even at the time people criticised the Crows decision to turn down the Demon's offer) was rejected by the Crows last year. Either way the Crows have won. They have had a fantastic player for the last 5-7 years and will get first round compo upon his departure. Sounds like a win-win for everyone involved.

Don't think the Crows can match $1mil per season with Tex, Betts, & a recently contracted Sloane as well tbh (Danger already cashes in $600k per season...). They have already been in trouble with Tippett and if they somehow offer over $1mil per season, I don't think it would be worth having the AFL investing their books  :P
What a load of shower.

First of all, Melbourne did not offer 2 & 3, it was all speculation and Danger would never had agreed to go to the Dees, he always intended on fulfilling his contract.

''The Crows should respect him for it and the services he's provided, let him go, and collect the compo.'' Oh turn it up! As soon as Danger accepts Geelongs offer, he is the enemy just like Geelong are and forcing them to trade for him would weaken them. Why on earth would we just roll over and give in? He is a top 5 player in the league and you think we should just accept pick 13-15 or whatever saying it is a ''win-win''? Far out, a mid 1st rounder is not a flowering 'win'. He is at least worth two top 10 picks and getting a mid 1st rounder in a weak draft is a load of shower.

I don't think the club would actually give a flower if it was perceived negatively around the AFL. When we lose immense talent all the time such as Danger, Gunston, Tippett, Davis and Bock, giving in and taking the compo is a terrible decision and the supporters will be furious, we're sick of it.
Had not considered that. Would you say the Crows have a problem with retaining talent or is it merely other clubs offering more money?

I understand the business angle of it. I just don't see the Crows matching the offer. What would Geelong even give up? I think Danger would prefer going to the draft tbh (and what would then stop Carlton trading the first pick to Geelong for an undercut price).

I know it's unfair, but I don't see the Crows matching the Cats offer, it will cause too much trouble and I think it's a case of fans wanting the Crows to match it. Realistically, I don't think they will.

I do admit it is unfair. The Crows will most likely fall short of the finals again next season (like when Tippett set them back 3 years). But I cannot see them putting Dangerfield through that, yes he's an enemy once he leaves, but what if Geelong just state the Crows are being unreasonable, and refuse any request that is too grand? The same thing would of happened with Paddy Ryder last season if the Bombers had retained him. The Crows can't regard Dangerfield as an enemy and then possibly retain him. I think they could validly do it, however my scepticism is rather "will they" or is it just what fans of the club want to happen but will never eventuate. I would like to see a source before buying into it, but I honestly don't think the Crows would do it (only if Geelong offered less than they apparently are stating, to take a punt, and even then it would be for keeps).

Cannot imagine what it would be like to lose a player like Dangerfield, but if Port were going to lose Wingard I would be questioning every possibility as well. Who do you honestly think the Cats would give up if that eventuated? I would probably say that a 1st rounder & Horlin-Smith is the best case scenario before the Cats just walk off
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: powersuperkents on September 20, 2015, 01:01:35 AM
I will tell you this though.

If it does eventuate and Adelaide do match. I will be following with interest. I'm pretty sure it would be an unprecedented event and if it had to eventually occur at some point, Dangerfield would be one of my first guesses (along with Fyfe & Dustin Martin).

I haven't heard of a team matching a player contract only to trade them but it would be fascinating to follow. But if anyone knows of any specific cases where this has occurred please inform me because I would like to read into it and see how everything transpired.

Maybe it has occurred in NFL (what the AFL free agency system is based on), however I'm unfamiliar with that sporting code
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: TomK on September 20, 2015, 02:05:10 AM
It's not unreasonable to think we have a problem with retaining talent but I do think money and family are the main reasons. It's all about family with Danger, and with Mardi who he has been with since high school, the pull of home was always there.

Danger will get to Geelong no matter what and I'm sure they're not going to turn down trading for him. I don't think we are going to try and completely screw over the Cats, GHS and a 1st is probably what Geelong would offer to start with but he wouldn't be in our best 22 and we'd want a player who would. Motlop would've been perfect but him re-signing puts that scenario to bed.

It will be interesting to see how the AFL handle the situation if we do match, since it'd be the first time.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Mat0369 on September 20, 2015, 02:38:57 AM
I'm sorry but there is no way Adelaide match the offer to trade him. Anyone that thinks otherwise is delusional and doesn't understand the system.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Big Mac on September 20, 2015, 02:45:42 AM
Quote from: Mat0369 on September 20, 2015, 02:38:57 AM
I'm sorry but there is no way Adelaide match the offer to trade him. Anyone that thinks otherwise is delusional and doesn't understand the system.

Yeh I can't see it happening either

Adelaide will be stuck with pick 13 or whatever it is
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: TomK on September 20, 2015, 02:55:57 AM
Quote from: Big  Mac on September 20, 2015, 02:45:42 AM
Quote from: Mat0369 on September 20, 2015, 02:38:57 AM
I'm sorry but there is no way Adelaide match the offer to trade him. Anyone that thinks otherwise is delusional and doesn't understand the system.

Yeh I can't see it happening either

Adelaide will be stuck with pick 13 or whatever it is
Why do you guys think that?
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Mat0369 on September 20, 2015, 02:56:55 AM
Quote from: powersuperkents on September 20, 2015, 01:01:35 AM
Maybe it has occurred in NFL (what the AFL free agency system is based on), however I'm unfamiliar with that sporting code

Sign and trades is more of an NBA thing but that is a different system.  In the NFL the way RFA's work is you put a draft pick tender on a FA's head. If a team wants that player they have to give up the pick for that round to sign him. So using Danger as an example, Crows put a 1st tender on him, if Carlton want to sign him they give up pick 1. Cats would give up their first. Tenders are set by monetary compensation and the team has a right of refusal and can match the offer sheet.

In the NBA player x can get a deal with team y. Team z, their existing team, can sign the player to the matched contract and then trade him to team y for compensation in a deal. The reason this can work in the NBA is because teams have smaller rosters and can either protect picks, trade future picks in like 5 years time and also can trade future pick swaps. Future pick trades are only starting this year so teams don't have arsenal of assets and can't organise swaps or picks from lets say 4 years in the future.

I am also pretty sure it is against AFL rules to trade a player in the first year of his contract with the team. If Danger's offer is matched it is against league rules to then trade him. You will also have the AFL PA get involved.

Quote from: Big  Mac on September 20, 2015, 02:45:42 AM
Quote from: Mat0369 on September 20, 2015, 02:38:57 AM
I'm sorry but there is no way Adelaide match the offer to trade him. Anyone that thinks otherwise is delusional and doesn't understand the system.

Yeh I can't see it happening either

Adelaide will be stuck with pick 13 or whatever it is

Which is only a few spots different then what they would get from the Cats anyway. It's just stupid
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Mat0369 on September 20, 2015, 02:57:47 AM
Quote from: TomK on September 20, 2015, 02:55:57 AM
Quote from: Big  Mac on September 20, 2015, 02:45:42 AM
Quote from: Mat0369 on September 20, 2015, 02:38:57 AM
I'm sorry but there is no way Adelaide match the offer to trade him. Anyone that thinks otherwise is delusional and doesn't understand the system.

Yeh I can't see it happening either

Adelaide will be stuck with pick 13 or whatever it is
Why do you guys think that?

Read above
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Bill Manspeaker on September 20, 2015, 03:05:44 AM
without reading what ya wrote mat, I think it comes down to if he wants to play elsewhere, whatever the reason is, there's not much sense matching a certain offer if he doesn't wanna be there
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Mat0369 on September 20, 2015, 03:14:13 AM
Quote from: Bill Manspeaker on September 20, 2015, 03:05:44 AM
without reading what ya wrote mat, I think it comes down to if he wants to play elsewhere, whatever the reason is, there's not much sense matching a certain offer if he doesn't wanna be there

It's basically the last paragraph. They can't trade him if they match the offer anyway since it is against league rules to then trade him. If they match he will be staying, it isn't a bargaining chip
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Mat0369 on September 20, 2015, 03:32:06 AM
I am also going to add that if Geelong really wanted to be pricks they could price Adelaide out on a one year deal. Basically they would just offer a 1 year contract at something like $1.2 mill so the Crows can't afford it, back end the other guys deals before signing him to a 4 year deal for the rest of the money discussed. That could also screw the Crows compo pick since contract length is one of the factors and could see it drop to the back of round 1.

If the Crows really want more compo for Danger their best bet is to sit down with him and discuss a trade option like they used to do. If he does leave the best compo they are going to get is the compo pick straight after theirs. It might be worth organising a 'side deal' in where the Cats trade a player at a significantly lower cost then their market value. So basically it is a throw in and works around the system which is built to be at the benefit of the players, not the clubs. Matching the offer to trade is not an option
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Toga on September 20, 2015, 11:16:19 AM
So if Schulz is re-signed, and McCarthy isn't going to be traded by GWS... What does Fremantle do? Go after an Aaron Black type, or do they just hope to rely on Pavlich for another year and try again?
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Pkbaldy on September 20, 2015, 12:24:14 PM
Quote from: Toga on September 20, 2015, 11:16:19 AM
So if Schulz is re-signed, and McCarthy isn't going to be traded by GWS... What does Fremantle do? Go after an Aaron Black type, or do they just hope to rely on Pavlich for another year and try again?

Lyon realizes that he can't win a premiership with Freo and leaves (With Zac Dawson) and takes over Adelaide.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: jvalles69 on September 20, 2015, 12:51:17 PM
Quote from: Pkbaldy on September 20, 2015, 12:24:14 PM
Quote from: Toga on September 20, 2015, 11:16:19 AM
So if Schulz is re-signed, and McCarthy isn't going to be traded by GWS... What does Fremantle do? Go after an Aaron Black type, or do they just hope to rely on Pavlich for another year and try again?

Lyon realizes that he can't win a premiership with Freo and leaves (With Zac Dawson) and takes over Adelaide.

That scenario is probably the odds on favourite...
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: powersuperkents on September 20, 2015, 01:31:06 PM
Quote from: jvalles69 on September 20, 2015, 12:51:17 PM
Quote from: Pkbaldy on September 20, 2015, 12:24:14 PM
Quote from: Toga on September 20, 2015, 11:16:19 AM
So if Schulz is re-signed, and McCarthy isn't going to be traded by GWS... What does Fremantle do? Go after an Aaron Black type, or do they just hope to rely on Pavlich for another year and try again?

Lyon realizes that he can't win a premiership with Freo and leaves (With Zac Dawson) and takes over Adelaide.

That scenario is probably the odds on favourite...
No no... completely wrong... he collects a player from each club he coaches so it will be Dawson and a Docker. By the time he reaches his 23rd club, he'll have his own team
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Grazz on September 20, 2015, 01:40:32 PM
Quote from: TomK on September 19, 2015, 11:50:24 PM
Quote from: powersuperkents on September 19, 2015, 11:25:23 PM
Quote from: Jayman on September 19, 2015, 09:59:56 PM
Quote from: AaronKirk on September 19, 2015, 09:34:56 PM
Quote from: jvalles69 on September 19, 2015, 06:07:01 PM
Word is Cats are going to offer Danger a 5 year deal but Crows will match it...

Will they match over $1m a season?
Pick a number. They'll match it.
I thought the Crows would easily get 1st round compo for Dangerfield

They cannot complain now though, they were offered both picks 2 & 3 last season for him and turned it down.

I know they are matching it so they can trade him and get something out of Geelong. But I don't really agree with it, Dangerfield has respected his contract with the Crows and hasn't formally said anything about his decision, as a professional athlete should. The Crows should respect him for it and the services he's provided, let him go, and collect the compo.

Making the process difficult for Dangerfield would be perceived negatively around the AFL. Especially when the logical choice (even at the time people criticised the Crows decision to turn down the Demon's offer) was rejected by the Crows last year. Either way the Crows have won. They have had a fantastic player for the last 5-7 years and will get first round compo upon his departure. Sounds like a win-win for everyone involved.

Don't think the Crows can match $1mil per season with Tex, Betts, & a recently contracted Sloane as well tbh (Danger already cashes in $600k per season...). They have already been in trouble with Tippett and if they somehow offer over $1mil per season, I don't think it would be worth having the AFL investing their books  :P
What a load of shower.

First of all, Melbourne did not offer 2 & 3, it was all speculation and Danger would never had agreed to go to the Dees, he always intended on fulfilling his contract.

''The Crows should respect him for it and the services he's provided, let him go, and collect the compo.'' Oh turn it up! As soon as Danger accepts Geelongs offer, he is the enemy just like Geelong are and forcing them to trade for him would weaken them. Why on earth would we just roll over and give in? He is a top 5 player in the league and you think we should just accept pick 13-15 or whatever saying it is a ''win-win''? Far out, a mid 1st rounder is not a flowering 'win'. He is at least worth two top 10 picks and getting a mid 1st rounder in a weak draft is a load of shower.

I don't think the club would actually give a flower if it was perceived negatively around the AFL. When we lose immense talent all the time such as Danger, Gunston, Tippett, Davis and Bock, giving in and taking the compo is a terrible decision and the supporters will be furious, we're sick of it.
^
This.  ;)
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: powersuperkents on September 20, 2015, 01:42:02 PM
In all seriousness though, Lyons has worked on youth (he's learned from his mistakes at St Kilda) and the whole point of Matt Taberner's development is a succession plan to replace Pav.

Whether Tabs can actually do it is another question - unlike the top drafted key forwards (and prodigies) he has doubtful potential. Pav was a top pick in the draft which implies he had natural talent and is technically advanced. Tab was in the rookie draft, which doesn't mean he's bad by any means, but implies that he will be the type of player who really has to work hard to earn his spot and retain it.

I've backed him myself, but I would not be surprised if Lyons seeks a replacement (he's use to having a Nroo/Pav type - just as much as a Milne/Balla type)
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: DazBurg on September 20, 2015, 02:30:43 PM
Quote from: Grazz on September 20, 2015, 01:40:32 PM
Quote from: TomK on September 19, 2015, 11:50:24 PM
Quote from: powersuperkents on September 19, 2015, 11:25:23 PM
Quote from: Jayman on September 19, 2015, 09:59:56 PM
Quote from: AaronKirk on September 19, 2015, 09:34:56 PM
Quote from: jvalles69 on September 19, 2015, 06:07:01 PM
Word is Cats are going to offer Danger a 5 year deal but Crows will match it...

Will they match over $1m a season?
Pick a number. They'll match it.
I thought the Crows would easily get 1st round compo for Dangerfield

They cannot complain now though, they were offered both picks 2 & 3 last season for him and turned it down.

I know they are matching it so they can trade him and get something out of Geelong. But I don't really agree with it, Dangerfield has respected his contract with the Crows and hasn't formally said anything about his decision, as a professional athlete should. The Crows should respect him for it and the services he's provided, let him go, and collect the compo.

Making the process difficult for Dangerfield would be perceived negatively around the AFL. Especially when the logical choice (even at the time people criticised the Crows decision to turn down the Demon's offer) was rejected by the Crows last year. Either way the Crows have won. They have had a fantastic player for the last 5-7 years and will get first round compo upon his departure. Sounds like a win-win for everyone involved.

Don't think the Crows can match $1mil per season with Tex, Betts, & a recently contracted Sloane as well tbh (Danger already cashes in $600k per season...). They have already been in trouble with Tippett and if they somehow offer over $1mil per season, I don't think it would be worth having the AFL investing their books  :P
What a load of shower.

First of all, Melbourne did not offer 2 & 3, it was all speculation and Danger would never had agreed to go to the Dees, he always intended on fulfilling his contract.

''The Crows should respect him for it and the services he's provided, let him go, and collect the compo.'' Oh turn it up! As soon as Danger accepts Geelongs offer, he is the enemy just like Geelong are and forcing them to trade for him would weaken them. Why on earth would we just roll over and give in? He is a top 5 player in the league and you think we should just accept pick 13-15 or whatever saying it is a ''win-win''? Far out, a mid 1st rounder is not a flowering 'win'. He is at least worth two top 10 picks and getting a mid 1st rounder in a weak draft is a load of shower.

I don't think the club would actually give a flower if it was perceived negatively around the AFL. When we lose immense talent all the time such as Danger, Gunston, Tippett, Davis and Bock, giving in and taking the compo is a terrible decision and the supporters will be furious, we're sick of it.
^
This.  ;)
yet the bombers are labelled unreasonable when we do this

i see wherre your coming form but you do end up with the tag no one wants to deal with you
you end up getting screwed anyways
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Football Factory on September 20, 2015, 03:45:51 PM
Quote from: Grazz on September 20, 2015, 01:40:32 PM
Quote from: TomK on September 19, 2015, 11:50:24 PM
Quote from: powersuperkents on September 19, 2015, 11:25:23 PM
Quote from: Jayman on September 19, 2015, 09:59:56 PM
Quote from: AaronKirk on September 19, 2015, 09:34:56 PM
Quote from: jvalles69 on September 19, 2015, 06:07:01 PM
Word is Cats are going to offer Danger a 5 year deal but Crows will match it...

Will they match over $1m a season?
Pick a number. They'll match it.
I thought the Crows would easily get 1st round compo for Dangerfield

They cannot complain now though, they were offered both picks 2 & 3 last season for him and turned it down.

I know they are matching it so they can trade him and get something out of Geelong. But I don't really agree with it, Dangerfield has respected his contract with the Crows and hasn't formally said anything about his decision, as a professional athlete should. The Crows should respect him for it and the services he's provided, let him go, and collect the compo.

Making the process difficult for Dangerfield would be perceived negatively around the AFL. Especially when the logical choice (even at the time people criticised the Crows decision to turn down the Demon's offer) was rejected by the Crows last year. Either way the Crows have won. They have had a fantastic player for the last 5-7 years and will get first round compo upon his departure. Sounds like a win-win for everyone involved.

Don't think the Crows can match $1mil per season with Tex, Betts, & a recently contracted Sloane as well tbh (Danger already cashes in $600k per season...). They have already been in trouble with Tippett and if they somehow offer over $1mil per season, I don't think it would be worth having the AFL investing their books  :P
What a load of shower.

First of all, Melbourne did not offer 2 & 3, it was all speculation and Danger would never had agreed to go to the Dees, he always intended on fulfilling his contract.

''The Crows should respect him for it and the services he's provided, let him go, and collect the compo.'' Oh turn it up! As soon as Danger accepts Geelongs offer, he is the enemy just like Geelong are and forcing them to trade for him would weaken them. Why on earth would we just roll over and give in? He is a top 5 player in the league and you think we should just accept pick 13-15 or whatever saying it is a ''win-win''? Far out, a mid 1st rounder is not a flowering 'win'. He is at least worth two top 10 picks and getting a mid 1st rounder in a weak draft is a load of shower.

I don't think the club would actually give a flower if it was perceived negatively around the AFL. When we lose immense talent all the time such as Danger, Gunston, Tippett, Davis and Bock, giving in and taking the compo is a terrible decision and the supporters will be furious, we're sick of it.
^
This.  ;)

+1
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Southstorm on September 20, 2015, 05:06:04 PM
Quote from: DazBurg on September 20, 2015, 02:30:43 PM
Quote from: Grazz on September 20, 2015, 01:40:32 PM
Quote from: TomK on September 19, 2015, 11:50:24 PM
Quote from: powersuperkents on September 19, 2015, 11:25:23 PM
Quote from: Jayman on September 19, 2015, 09:59:56 PM
Quote from: AaronKirk on September 19, 2015, 09:34:56 PM
Quote from: jvalles69 on September 19, 2015, 06:07:01 PM
Word is Cats are going to offer Danger a 5 year deal but Crows will match it...

Will they match over $1m a season?
Pick a number. They'll match it.
I thought the Crows would easily get 1st round compo for Dangerfield

They cannot complain now though, they were offered both picks 2 & 3 last season for him and turned it down.

I know they are matching it so they can trade him and get something out of Geelong. But I don't really agree with it, Dangerfield has respected his contract with the Crows and hasn't formally said anything about his decision, as a professional athlete should. The Crows should respect him for it and the services he's provided, let him go, and collect the compo.

Making the process difficult for Dangerfield would be perceived negatively around the AFL. Especially when the logical choice (even at the time people criticised the Crows decision to turn down the Demon's offer) was rejected by the Crows last year. Either way the Crows have won. They have had a fantastic player for the last 5-7 years and will get first round compo upon his departure. Sounds like a win-win for everyone involved.

Don't think the Crows can match $1mil per season with Tex, Betts, & a recently contracted Sloane as well tbh (Danger already cashes in $600k per season...). They have already been in trouble with Tippett and if they somehow offer over $1mil per season, I don't think it would be worth having the AFL investing their books  :P
What a load of shower.

First of all, Melbourne did not offer 2 & 3, it was all speculation and Danger would never had agreed to go to the Dees, he always intended on fulfilling his contract.

''The Crows should respect him for it and the services he's provided, let him go, and collect the compo.'' Oh turn it up! As soon as Danger accepts Geelongs offer, he is the enemy just like Geelong are and forcing them to trade for him would weaken them. Why on earth would we just roll over and give in? He is a top 5 player in the league and you think we should just accept pick 13-15 or whatever saying it is a ''win-win''? Far out, a mid 1st rounder is not a flowering 'win'. He is at least worth two top 10 picks and getting a mid 1st rounder in a weak draft is a load of shower.

I don't think the club would actually give a flower if it was perceived negatively around the AFL. When we lose immense talent all the time such as Danger, Gunston, Tippett, Davis and Bock, giving in and taking the compo is a terrible decision and the supporters will be furious, we're sick of it.
^
This.  ;)
yet the bombers are labelled unreasonable when we do this

i see wherre your coming form but you do end up with the tag no one wants to deal with you
you end up getting screwed anyways
Forcing somebody to the trade table and demanding pick 6 for Jake Melksham are two very different things.

I'm an essendon fan and even I can admit that nobody lowballs like we do.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Jukes on September 20, 2015, 05:09:29 PM
Quote from: Southstorm on September 20, 2015, 05:06:04 PM
Quote from: DazBurg on September 20, 2015, 02:30:43 PM
Quote from: Grazz on September 20, 2015, 01:40:32 PM
Quote from: TomK on September 19, 2015, 11:50:24 PM
Quote from: powersuperkents on September 19, 2015, 11:25:23 PM
Quote from: Jayman on September 19, 2015, 09:59:56 PM
Quote from: AaronKirk on September 19, 2015, 09:34:56 PM
Quote from: jvalles69 on September 19, 2015, 06:07:01 PM
Word is Cats are going to offer Danger a 5 year deal but Crows will match it...

Will they match over $1m a season?
Pick a number. They'll match it.
I thought the Crows would easily get 1st round compo for Dangerfield

They cannot complain now though, they were offered both picks 2 & 3 last season for him and turned it down.

I know they are matching it so they can trade him and get something out of Geelong. But I don't really agree with it, Dangerfield has respected his contract with the Crows and hasn't formally said anything about his decision, as a professional athlete should. The Crows should respect him for it and the services he's provided, let him go, and collect the compo.

Making the process difficult for Dangerfield would be perceived negatively around the AFL. Especially when the logical choice (even at the time people criticised the Crows decision to turn down the Demon's offer) was rejected by the Crows last year. Either way the Crows have won. They have had a fantastic player for the last 5-7 years and will get first round compo upon his departure. Sounds like a win-win for everyone involved.

Don't think the Crows can match $1mil per season with Tex, Betts, & a recently contracted Sloane as well tbh (Danger already cashes in $600k per season...). They have already been in trouble with Tippett and if they somehow offer over $1mil per season, I don't think it would be worth having the AFL investing their books  :P
What a load of shower.

First of all, Melbourne did not offer 2 & 3, it was all speculation and Danger would never had agreed to go to the Dees, he always intended on fulfilling his contract.

''The Crows should respect him for it and the services he's provided, let him go, and collect the compo.'' Oh turn it up! As soon as Danger accepts Geelongs offer, he is the enemy just like Geelong are and forcing them to trade for him would weaken them. Why on earth would we just roll over and give in? He is a top 5 player in the league and you think we should just accept pick 13-15 or whatever saying it is a ''win-win''? Far out, a mid 1st rounder is not a flowering 'win'. He is at least worth two top 10 picks and getting a mid 1st rounder in a weak draft is a load of shower.

I don't think the club would actually give a flower if it was perceived negatively around the AFL. When we lose immense talent all the time such as Danger, Gunston, Tippett, Davis and Bock, giving in and taking the compo is a terrible decision and the supporters will be furious, we're sick of it.
^
This.  ;)
yet the bombers are labelled unreasonable when we do this

i see wherre your coming form but you do end up with the tag no one wants to deal with you
you end up getting screwed anyways
Forcing somebody to the trade table and demanding pick 6 for Jake Melksham are two very different things.

I'm an essendon fan and even I can admit that nobody lowballs like we do.

You've never traded with me in worlds I guess
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: roo boys! on September 20, 2015, 05:29:38 PM
Quote from: Jukes on September 20, 2015, 05:09:29 PM
Quote from: Southstorm on September 20, 2015, 05:06:04 PM
Quote from: DazBurg on September 20, 2015, 02:30:43 PM
Quote from: Grazz on September 20, 2015, 01:40:32 PM
Quote from: TomK on September 19, 2015, 11:50:24 PM
Quote from: powersuperkents on September 19, 2015, 11:25:23 PM
Quote from: Jayman on September 19, 2015, 09:59:56 PM
Quote from: AaronKirk on September 19, 2015, 09:34:56 PM
Quote from: jvalles69 on September 19, 2015, 06:07:01 PM
Word is Cats are going to offer Danger a 5 year deal but Crows will match it...

Will they match over $1m a season?
Pick a number. They'll match it.
I thought the Crows would easily get 1st round compo for Dangerfield

They cannot complain now though, they were offered both picks 2 & 3 last season for him and turned it down.

I know they are matching it so they can trade him and get something out of Geelong. But I don't really agree with it, Dangerfield has respected his contract with the Crows and hasn't formally said anything about his decision, as a professional athlete should. The Crows should respect him for it and the services he's provided, let him go, and collect the compo.

Making the process difficult for Dangerfield would be perceived negatively around the AFL. Especially when the logical choice (even at the time people criticised the Crows decision to turn down the Demon's offer) was rejected by the Crows last year. Either way the Crows have won. They have had a fantastic player for the last 5-7 years and will get first round compo upon his departure. Sounds like a win-win for everyone involved.

Don't think the Crows can match $1mil per season with Tex, Betts, & a recently contracted Sloane as well tbh (Danger already cashes in $600k per season...). They have already been in trouble with Tippett and if they somehow offer over $1mil per season, I don't think it would be worth having the AFL investing their books  :P
What a load of shower.

First of all, Melbourne did not offer 2 & 3, it was all speculation and Danger would never had agreed to go to the Dees, he always intended on fulfilling his contract.

''The Crows should respect him for it and the services he's provided, let him go, and collect the compo.'' Oh turn it up! As soon as Danger accepts Geelongs offer, he is the enemy just like Geelong are and forcing them to trade for him would weaken them. Why on earth would we just roll over and give in? He is a top 5 player in the league and you think we should just accept pick 13-15 or whatever saying it is a ''win-win''? Far out, a mid 1st rounder is not a flowering 'win'. He is at least worth two top 10 picks and getting a mid 1st rounder in a weak draft is a load of shower.

I don't think the club would actually give a flower if it was perceived negatively around the AFL. When we lose immense talent all the time such as Danger, Gunston, Tippett, Davis and Bock, giving in and taking the compo is a terrible decision and the supporters will be furious, we're sick of it.
^
This.  ;)
yet the bombers are labelled unreasonable when we do this

i see wherre your coming form but you do end up with the tag no one wants to deal with you
you end up getting screwed anyways
Forcing somebody to the trade table and demanding pick 6 for Jake Melksham are two very different things.

I'm an essendon fan and even I can admit that nobody lowballs like we do.

You've never traded with me in worlds I guess
Greenwood isn't even any good...
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: powersuperkents on September 20, 2015, 06:30:32 PM
Quote from: Jukes on September 20, 2015, 05:09:29 PM
Quote from: Southstorm on September 20, 2015, 05:06:04 PM
Quote from: DazBurg on September 20, 2015, 02:30:43 PM
Quote from: Grazz on September 20, 2015, 01:40:32 PM
Quote from: TomK on September 19, 2015, 11:50:24 PM
Quote from: powersuperkents on September 19, 2015, 11:25:23 PM
Quote from: Jayman on September 19, 2015, 09:59:56 PM
Quote from: AaronKirk on September 19, 2015, 09:34:56 PM
Quote from: jvalles69 on September 19, 2015, 06:07:01 PM
Word is Cats are going to offer Danger a 5 year deal but Crows will match it...

Will they match over $1m a season?
Pick a number. They'll match it.
I thought the Crows would easily get 1st round compo for Dangerfield

They cannot complain now though, they were offered both picks 2 & 3 last season for him and turned it down.

I know they are matching it so they can trade him and get something out of Geelong. But I don't really agree with it, Dangerfield has respected his contract with the Crows and hasn't formally said anything about his decision, as a professional athlete should. The Crows should respect him for it and the services he's provided, let him go, and collect the compo.

Making the process difficult for Dangerfield would be perceived negatively around the AFL. Especially when the logical choice (even at the time people criticised the Crows decision to turn down the Demon's offer) was rejected by the Crows last year. Either way the Crows have won. They have had a fantastic player for the last 5-7 years and will get first round compo upon his departure. Sounds like a win-win for everyone involved.

Don't think the Crows can match $1mil per season with Tex, Betts, & a recently contracted Sloane as well tbh (Danger already cashes in $600k per season...). They have already been in trouble with Tippett and if they somehow offer over $1mil per season, I don't think it would be worth having the AFL investing their books  :P
What a load of shower.

First of all, Melbourne did not offer 2 & 3, it was all speculation and Danger would never had agreed to go to the Dees, he always intended on fulfilling his contract.

''The Crows should respect him for it and the services he's provided, let him go, and collect the compo.'' Oh turn it up! As soon as Danger accepts Geelongs offer, he is the enemy just like Geelong are and forcing them to trade for him would weaken them. Why on earth would we just roll over and give in? He is a top 5 player in the league and you think we should just accept pick 13-15 or whatever saying it is a ''win-win''? Far out, a mid 1st rounder is not a flowering 'win'. He is at least worth two top 10 picks and getting a mid 1st rounder in a weak draft is a load of shower.

I don't think the club would actually give a flower if it was perceived negatively around the AFL. When we lose immense talent all the time such as Danger, Gunston, Tippett, Davis and Bock, giving in and taking the compo is a terrible decision and the supporters will be furious, we're sick of it.
^
This.  ;)
yet the bombers are labelled unreasonable when we do this

i see wherre your coming form but you do end up with the tag no one wants to deal with you
you end up getting screwed anyways
Forcing somebody to the trade table and demanding pick 6 for Jake Melksham are two very different things.

I'm an essendon fan and even I can admit that nobody lowballs like we do.

You've never traded with me in worlds I guess
You take after the Bombers

I made a solid offer for Pittard and you completely ignored it  :P
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: H1bb3i2d on September 20, 2015, 07:38:53 PM
Correct me if I'm wrong, but Geelong won't be offering Paddy significant money anyway, will they? He's leaving for the 'home factor', he already wants to go there so he doesn't have to be bought, unlike guys like Henderson. Unless things have changed, I feel Adelaide could definitely match the offer if they wanted to.

They ultimately deserve a Judd-like trade, not some dodgey first round draft pick tied to their ladder position. And Danger certainly wound never have signed a long-term with the Dees anyway!
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: kilbluff1985 on September 20, 2015, 07:43:08 PM
Quote from: H1bb3i2d on September 20, 2015, 07:38:53 PM
Correct me if I'm wrong, but Geelong won't be offering Paddy significant money anyway, will they? He's leaving for the 'home factor', he already wants to go there so he doesn't have to be bought, unlike guys like Henderson. Unless things have changed, I feel Adelaide could definitely match the offer if they wanted to.

They ultimately deserve a Judd-like trade, not some dodgey first round draft pick tied to their ladder position. And Danger certainly wound never have signed a long-term with the Dees anyway!

Judd like deal?

so Hawkins for Danger :P
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Big Mac on September 20, 2015, 07:43:40 PM
Quote from: H1bb3i2d on September 20, 2015, 07:38:53 PM
Correct me if I'm wrong, but Geelong won't be offering Paddy significant money anyway, will they? He's leaving for the 'home factor', he already wants to go there so he doesn't have to be bought, unlike guys like Henderson. Unless things have changed, I feel Adelaide could definitely match the offer if they wanted to.

They ultimately deserve a Judd-like trade, not some dodgey first round draft pick tied to their ladder position. And Danger certainly wound never have signed a long-term with the Dees anyway!

To be honest, I think Danger would be better off at the dees :P
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Purple 77 on September 20, 2015, 07:52:51 PM
Quote from: Big  Mac on September 20, 2015, 07:43:40 PM
Quote from: H1bb3i2d on September 20, 2015, 07:38:53 PM
Correct me if I'm wrong, but Geelong won't be offering Paddy significant money anyway, will they? He's leaving for the 'home factor', he already wants to go there so he doesn't have to be bought, unlike guys like Henderson. Unless things have changed, I feel Adelaide could definitely match the offer if they wanted to.

They ultimately deserve a Judd-like trade, not some dodgey first round draft pick tied to their ladder position. And Danger certainly wound never have signed a long-term with the Dees anyway!

To be honest, I think Danger would be better off at the dees :P

Glad I'm not the only one that thinks this ^^ :P
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: T Dog on September 20, 2015, 07:56:29 PM
C'mon...Dangerfield would be happiest at the Pies surely   ;D
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: silloc on September 21, 2015, 12:59:00 PM
who else is more interested in the trade period than the finals series
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: H1bb3i2d on September 21, 2015, 01:00:00 PM
Quote from: silloc on September 21, 2015, 12:59:00 PM
who else is more interested in the trade period than the finals series

Anybody outside Perth this weekend :P
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Nige on September 21, 2015, 01:08:14 PM
Quote from: H1bb3i2d on September 21, 2015, 01:00:00 PM
Quote from: silloc on September 21, 2015, 12:59:00 PM
who else is more interested in the trade period than the finals series

Anybody outside Perth this weekend :P
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: elephants on September 21, 2015, 01:10:01 PM
WA stamping its authority as the most superior land-mass in the world.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Purple 77 on September 21, 2015, 01:34:46 PM
Stealing this quote from Barra that he posted on the Melbourne section:

Quote from: Barra13 on September 21, 2015, 11:36:19 AM
Gia on Channel 7 Footy Show saying Melbourne has offered Dangerfield money that Adelaide and Geelong can't ($1.5mil).

1.5 mill is a lot to turn down...
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Big Mac on September 21, 2015, 01:44:31 PM
Quote from: fanTCfool on September 21, 2015, 01:38:29 PM
If he goes to Melbourne he'll need the 1.5m to pay for counseling as to why he went there.

Garlett seems happy enough at the dees :P

We'll take Cripps as well if you want to throw him at us for pick 60-odd
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Purple 77 on September 21, 2015, 02:30:20 PM
Quote from: Big  Mac on September 21, 2015, 01:44:31 PM
Quote from: fanTCfool on September 21, 2015, 01:38:29 PM
If he goes to Melbourne he'll need the 1.5m to pay for counseling as to why he went there.

Garlett seems happy enough at the dees :P

We'll take Cripps as well if you want to throw him at us for pick 60-odd

BOOM! Post deleted out of shame  :P
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Grazz on September 21, 2015, 02:36:04 PM
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on September 20, 2015, 07:43:08 PM
Quote from: H1bb3i2d on September 20, 2015, 07:38:53 PM
Correct me if I'm wrong, but Geelong won't be offering Paddy significant money anyway, will they? He's leaving for the 'home factor', he already wants to go there so he doesn't have to be bought, unlike guys like Henderson. Unless things have changed, I feel Adelaide could definitely match the offer if they wanted to.

They ultimately deserve a Judd-like trade, not some dodgey first round draft pick tied to their ladder position. And Danger certainly wound never have signed a long-term with the Dees anyway!

Judd like deal?

so Hawkins for Danger :P

Judd like deal not Spudd like deal. :P
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Nige on September 21, 2015, 04:16:55 PM
Lions looking at David Astbury according to the Age.

SEN reporting that the Lennon and Yarran swap could be a thing.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Bill Manspeaker on September 21, 2015, 06:35:56 PM
Quote from: Nige on September 21, 2015, 04:16:55 PM
SEN reporting that the Lennon and Yarran swap could be a thing.

surely not. I don't believe that for a second
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Toga on September 21, 2015, 06:42:12 PM
Quote from: Bill Manspeaker on September 21, 2015, 06:35:56 PM
Quote from: Nige on September 21, 2015, 04:16:55 PM
SEN reporting that the Lennon and Yarran swap could be a thing.

surely not. I don't believe that for a second

Yeah right. I would be bitterly disappointed if this turns out to be true, but I can't see it happening tbh.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: shaker on September 21, 2015, 06:45:46 PM
Quote from: Toga on September 21, 2015, 06:42:12 PM
Quote from: Bill Manspeaker on September 21, 2015, 06:35:56 PM
Quote from: Nige on September 21, 2015, 04:16:55 PM
SEN reporting that the Lennon and Yarran swap could be a thing.

surely not. I don't believe that for a second

Yeah right. I would be bitterly disappointed if this turns out to be true, but I can't see it happening tbh.
Bitterly disappointed someones head would have to be put on a spike if this did occur .
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: JBs-Hawks on September 21, 2015, 06:47:36 PM
Would be a good trade for Richmond. Potential doesn't win finals!
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Toga on September 21, 2015, 06:48:35 PM
But Yarran is all potential at the moment as well! Didn't do a whole lot this year apart from sit in the VFL :-X
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: JBs-Hawks on September 21, 2015, 06:51:17 PM
Tarrant iS class! Head will be right at a new club
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: shaker on September 21, 2015, 06:55:07 PM
We don't want Tarrant either  :P
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Nige on September 21, 2015, 06:57:51 PM
SEN is reporting that uncontracted Adelaide midfielder Matt Crouch is being chased by St Kilda, Richmond and Melbourne in the upcoming trade period.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: kilbluff1985 on September 21, 2015, 06:59:02 PM
Quote from: Nige on September 21, 2015, 06:57:51 PM
SEN is reporting that uncontracted Adelaide midfielder Matt Crouch is being chased by St Kilda, Richmond and Melbourne in the upcoming trade period.

hard to believe he would think about leaving his brother/family
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Donnie Brasco on September 21, 2015, 07:06:58 PM
Quote from: Nige on September 21, 2015, 04:16:55 PMSEN reporting that the Lennon and Yarran swap could be a thing.

if so, dad and i won't be renewing our memberships
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: JBs-Hawks on September 21, 2015, 07:07:20 PM
Quote from: shaker on September 21, 2015, 06:55:07 PM
We don't want Tarrant either  :P

Haha auto correct
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: H1bb3i2d on September 21, 2015, 07:11:30 PM
Lennon for Yarran? Just a couple of blokes who can kick a footy who'll ride their whole careers on 'potential' - (well, one already has)
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: TomK on September 21, 2015, 07:21:52 PM
Quote from: Mat0369 on September 20, 2015, 03:14:13 AM
They can't trade him if they match the offer anyway since it is against league rules to then trade him.
Yes we can?
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: iZander on September 21, 2015, 08:22:43 PM
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Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Big Mac on September 21, 2015, 08:37:41 PM
Quote from: iZander on September 21, 2015, 08:22:43 PM
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Good point, I hadn't thought of it that way
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: T Dog on September 21, 2015, 08:43:25 PM
Quote from: Big  Mac on September 21, 2015, 08:37:41 PM
Quote from: iZander on September 21, 2015, 08:22:43 PM
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Good point, I hadn't thought of it that way

After thinking about it seriously...I am just not sure
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Pkbaldy on September 21, 2015, 08:43:44 PM
Quote from: Nige on September 21, 2015, 06:57:51 PM
SEN is reporting that uncontracted Adelaide midfielder Matt Crouch is being chased by St Kilda, Richmond and Melbourne in the upcoming trade period.

I'm 90% sure that he'll get a contract with Adelaide.. He's cemented a spot in the 22 now, so doesn't really need to move... And the  Saints wont be able to get him, we'll waste the entire trade period working out a trade with Carlisle.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Purple 77 on September 21, 2015, 08:44:42 PM
Quote from: T Dog on September 21, 2015, 08:43:25 PM
Quote from: Big  Mac on September 21, 2015, 08:37:41 PM
Quote from: iZander on September 21, 2015, 08:22:43 PM
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Good point, I hadn't thought of it that way

After thinking about it seriously...I am just not sure

I take offence to your point!

It is clearly a dot. One that I feel, personally, symbolises one's need to get notified on new posts in the thread.  :P
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: kilbluff1985 on September 21, 2015, 08:49:03 PM
that point is racist
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Jukes on September 21, 2015, 08:49:20 PM
QuoteAdelaide and Melbourne are enquiring about Port Adelaide's Hamish Hartlett as they look to free up salary cap space according to 3AW.

Interdasting
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: T Dog on September 21, 2015, 08:52:11 PM
Quote from: Jukes on September 21, 2015, 08:49:20 PM
QuoteAdelaide and Melbourne are enquiring about Port Adelaide's Hamish Hartlett as they look to free up salary cap space according to 3AW.

Interdasting

Surely the Pies are interested in the Hammer too.  :)
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Big Mac on September 21, 2015, 08:52:23 PM
From smells ham being the dees' 1.6million dollar man to suddenly being linked with everyone!

I like this  8)

Edit: Apparently Melksham autocorrects to smells ham...I think I like it better this way
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: iZander on September 21, 2015, 08:59:22 PM
Quote from: Big  Mac on September 21, 2015, 08:37:41 PM
Quote from: iZander on September 21, 2015, 08:22:43 PM
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Good point, I hadn't thought of it that way
You've just got to think outside the box haha
Na just making it so i get notifications when new posts are made ;P
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: iZander on September 21, 2015, 09:00:50 PM
Quote from: iZander on September 21, 2015, 08:22:43 PM
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I feel like my post may have sparked some controversy hahaha
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: T Dog on September 21, 2015, 09:05:29 PM
Quote from: iZander on September 21, 2015, 09:00:50 PM
Quote from: iZander on September 21, 2015, 08:22:43 PM
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I feel like my post may have sparked some controversy hahaha

Well you put that sort of incendiary comment out there...must expect  retaliation.  ::)
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: iZander on September 21, 2015, 09:07:28 PM
Quote from: T Dog on September 21, 2015, 09:05:29 PM
Quote from: iZander on September 21, 2015, 09:00:50 PM
Quote from: iZander on September 21, 2015, 08:22:43 PM
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I feel like my post may have sparked some controversy hahaha

Well you put that sort of incendiary comment out there...must expect  retaliation.  ::)
Things were getting boring, i just wanted to stir the pot a bit ;P
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Purple 77 on September 21, 2015, 09:23:32 PM
Quote from: Big  Mac on September 21, 2015, 08:52:23 PM
From smells ham being the dees' 1.6million dollar man to suddenly being linked with everyone!

I like this  8)

Edit: Apparently Melksham autocorrects to smells ham...I think I like it better this way

That is amazing. I know him at no other name now.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Spite on September 21, 2015, 09:41:44 PM
Quote from: Pkbaldy on September 21, 2015, 08:43:44 PM
Quote from: Nige on September 21, 2015, 06:57:51 PM
SEN is reporting that uncontracted Adelaide midfielder Matt Crouch is being chased by St Kilda, Richmond and Melbourne in the upcoming trade period.

I'm 90% sure that he'll get a contract with Adelaide.. He's cemented a spot in the 22 now, so doesn't really need to move... And the  Saints wont be able to get him, we'll waste the entire trade period working out a trade with Carlisle.

Not sure he has cemented his spot when his brother comes back. His bro could literally force him out of the team ala Beams style
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: TomK on September 21, 2015, 09:47:40 PM
Quote from: Spite on September 21, 2015, 09:41:44 PM
Quote from: Pkbaldy on September 21, 2015, 08:43:44 PM
Quote from: Nige on September 21, 2015, 06:57:51 PM
SEN is reporting that uncontracted Adelaide midfielder Matt Crouch is being chased by St Kilda, Richmond and Melbourne in the upcoming trade period.

I'm 90% sure that he'll get a contract with Adelaide.. He's cemented a spot in the 22 now, so doesn't really need to move... And the  Saints wont be able to get him, we'll waste the entire trade period working out a trade with Carlisle.

Not sure he has cemented his spot when his brother comes back. His bro could literally force him out of the team ala Beams style
He has. Danger out and Thommo's finishing up next year (probably), he is a lock for the 22.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: TomK on September 21, 2015, 09:52:12 PM
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2015-09-21/cat-midfielder-asks-to-be-traded-to-lions

GEELONG youngster Jarrad Jansen has requested a trade to the Brisbane Lions, citing a desire for more playing opportunities.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Spite on September 21, 2015, 09:54:58 PM
Quote from: TomK on September 21, 2015, 09:47:40 PM
Quote from: Spite on September 21, 2015, 09:41:44 PM
Quote from: Pkbaldy on September 21, 2015, 08:43:44 PM
Quote from: Nige on September 21, 2015, 06:57:51 PM
SEN is reporting that uncontracted Adelaide midfielder Matt Crouch is being chased by St Kilda, Richmond and Melbourne in the upcoming trade period.

I'm 90% sure that he'll get a contract with Adelaide.. He's cemented a spot in the 22 now, so doesn't really need to move... And the  Saints wont be able to get him, we'll waste the entire trade period working out a trade with Carlisle.

Not sure he has cemented his spot when his brother comes back. His bro could literally force him out of the team ala Beams style
He has. Danger out and Thommo's finishing up next year (probably), he is a lock for the 22.

Ironically forgot about Danger! lol
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: TomK on September 21, 2015, 09:58:21 PM
Quote from: Spite on September 21, 2015, 09:54:58 PM
Quote from: TomK on September 21, 2015, 09:47:40 PM
Quote from: Spite on September 21, 2015, 09:41:44 PM
Quote from: Pkbaldy on September 21, 2015, 08:43:44 PM
Quote from: Nige on September 21, 2015, 06:57:51 PM
SEN is reporting that uncontracted Adelaide midfielder Matt Crouch is being chased by St Kilda, Richmond and Melbourne in the upcoming trade period.

I'm 90% sure that he'll get a contract with Adelaide.. He's cemented a spot in the 22 now, so doesn't really need to move... And the  Saints wont be able to get him, we'll waste the entire trade period working out a trade with Carlisle.

Not sure he has cemented his spot when his brother comes back. His bro could literally force him out of the team ala Beams style
He has. Danger out and Thommo's finishing up next year (probably), he is a lock for the 22.

Ironically forgot about Danger! lol
Hahah I wish I could :'( :'( :'(
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Ringo on September 21, 2015, 10:05:50 PM
Quote from: TomK on September 21, 2015, 09:52:12 PM
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2015-09-21/cat-midfielder-asks-to-be-traded-to-lions

GEELONG youngster Jarrad Jansen has requested a trade to the Brisbane Lions, citing a desire for more playing opportunities.
Interesting but will he get more opportunities at Brisbane than the Cats given Brisbanes mid field depth especially if Aish stays. He will add some height though which has been missing. Only Liam Dawson is 190cm plus so he will no doubt be Jansens competition.

Brisbane will be in the market for Tom Bell if he asks for a return home from Carlton.

Aish is looking more and more likely to stay given that he has attended best and fairest, mad Monday and has collected his summer training program.

Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Mat0369 on September 21, 2015, 10:11:21 PM
Quote from: TomK on September 21, 2015, 07:21:52 PM
Yes we can?

No you can't. If you match the contract he would be in his first year of a new contract which means you can't trade him. This is the reason 3 way trades in the AFL exist, you can trade picks but not players.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: TomK on September 21, 2015, 10:25:10 PM
Quote from: Mat0369 on September 21, 2015, 10:11:21 PM
Quote from: TomK on September 21, 2015, 07:21:52 PM
Yes we can?

No you can't. If you match the contract he would be in his first year of a new contract which means you can't trade him. This is the reason 3 way trades in the AFL exist, you can trade picks but not players.
If we match, he is still uncontracted and he becomes like any regular player out of contract. He doesn't instantly become contracted.

The AFL website is even running with the possibility that we match to force a trade.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: powersuperkents on September 21, 2015, 10:43:15 PM
Quote from: Ringo on September 21, 2015, 10:05:50 PM
Quote from: TomK on September 21, 2015, 09:52:12 PM
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2015-09-21/cat-midfielder-asks-to-be-traded-to-lions

GEELONG youngster Jarrad Jansen has requested a trade to the Brisbane Lions, citing a desire for more playing opportunities.
Interesting but will he get more opportunities at Brisbane than the Cats given Brisbanes mid field depth especially if Aish stays. He will add some height though which has been missing. Only Liam Dawson is 190cm plus so he will no doubt be Jansens competition.

Brisbane will be in the market for Tom Bell if he asks for a return home from Carlton.

Aish is looking more and more likely to stay given that he has attended best and fairest, mad Monday and has collected his summer training program.
Jansen can play at HF & HB. Would be a solid inclusion at the Lions and I really rate him. Don't think Aish will stay, but also don't think Jansen would be in the club's starting midfield (would need an injury or two). Nonetheless, he would be a solid inclusion and he is quite versatile (possibly develop at HB/HF and earn a spot as an inside mid in the long-term).

Also, if a player demands a trade to Brisbane... you take them... The Lions are the last club who should be picking and choosing. If they choose to move to the Lions, they are there to stay.

Should only cost a pick between 40-60 imo, so still plenty available to recruit Bell (who would be another win for the Lions). Hopefully, the Lions can work out a 3-way trade between Carlton, WCE, & Brisbane (will be tough because I don't think the Eagles need Redden enough to give away anything significant - that's when you disregard Redden's wishes and trade him to the club who will give the most).

Honestly, I think Jansen would be a great addition
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Money Shot on September 22, 2015, 10:30:53 AM
Yarran to Lennon???
I heard that from an angry Richmond supporter who I am mates with? Is this the case? 8)

Henderson for pick 8 looking likely as well!
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Kellogscrunchynut on September 22, 2015, 03:13:52 PM
Some guy on reddit photo shopped Danger to see what he'd look like at different clubs

:http://imgur.com/a/M988R
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Nige on September 22, 2015, 04:17:16 PM
Brett Anderson is reporting that Richmond is offering Hamish Hartlett a possible five or even six year deal.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: RaisyDaisy on September 22, 2015, 04:32:07 PM
Quote from: Nige on September 22, 2015, 04:17:16 PM
Brett Anderson is reporting that Richmond is offering Hamish Hartlett a possible five or even six year deal.

The exact type of player you need, although his body let's him down from time to time

(PS - Who the flower is Brett Anderson lol)

Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: nas on September 22, 2015, 04:43:09 PM
Quote from: Nige on September 22, 2015, 04:17:16 PM
Brett Anderson is reporting that Richmond is offering Hamish Hartlett a possible five or even six year deal.

Straight swap for Dustbin
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: meow meow on September 22, 2015, 04:53:04 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on September 22, 2015, 04:32:07 PM
Quote from: Nige on September 22, 2015, 04:17:16 PM
Brett Anderson is reporting that Richmond is offering Hamish Hartlett a possible five or even six year deal.

The exact type of player you need, although his body let's him down from time to time

(PS - Who the flower is Brett Anderson lol)

Hammer has played 22 (2 finals), 22 (3 finals) and 22 games in the past 3 seasons. His injury woes are largely a thing of the past.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: RaisyDaisy on September 22, 2015, 06:49:27 PM
That feels quite deceptive Meow - always feels like he is injured lol

Several delistings today

Saints cut Spencer White, Arryn Sipposs, Tom Simpkin and Daniel Markworth.

Essendon cut Dalgleish and Aylett

Karnezis retired

Cant believe Sipposs lasted as long as he did tbh. Called it years ago
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: powersuperkents on September 22, 2015, 06:49:44 PM
Quote from: Nige on September 22, 2015, 04:17:16 PM
Brett Anderson is reporting that Richmond is offering Hamish Hartlett a possible five or even six year deal.
He's still contracted

Posted this an hour ago:
"Port's salary cap isn't at breaking point as many think. Have room to add Dixon as well as re-sign Hartlett & Wines next year. #TradeSENtral"

I'm more worried about whether or not we'll have enough for Wingard though (the club will cut just about any player to retain those 3 + Gray & Boak and Hinkley has been fantastic with player retention (applies to Port as a whole) so I wouldn't expect any of our stars to leave the club).

Hartlett & Wingard are both from Adelaide so that should mean they are more likely to stay than anyone else (although I really think Wines would be the most loyal - despite his Vic origins)
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Toga on September 22, 2015, 06:56:44 PM
I'm hearing that Port's salary cap was at 100% this year, which means something has to give if they are to recruit Dixon...
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Big Mac on September 22, 2015, 06:57:32 PM
Wingard would command massive $$ at another club

Wouldn't be surprised if you guys let someone go to keep him, as well as Wines, Dixon etc
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: kilbluff1985 on September 22, 2015, 06:59:08 PM
Wingard wont choose to go he wants to be there he told GWS not to draft him he wanted to go to Port
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Bill Manspeaker on September 22, 2015, 07:32:22 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on September 22, 2015, 06:49:27 PM
Cant believe Sipposs lasted as long as he did tbh. Called it years ago

how can you have spelled Arryn right but Siposs wrong? :P
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: JBs-Hawks on September 22, 2015, 08:12:38 PM
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on September 22, 2015, 06:59:08 PM
Wingard wont choose to go he wants to be there he told GWS not to draft him he wanted to go to Port

For his initial contract maybe. But if Melbourne offered him 1.2 a season and port offered 800 I think his mind would change
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: meow meow on September 22, 2015, 08:48:08 PM
Swans have offered Michael Talia 400k a year for 3 years. The fact that he cracked the showers when we didn't select him and told his brother the game plan doesn't bode well for his future with us.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Big Mac on September 22, 2015, 08:53:46 PM
Quote from: JBs-Hawks on September 22, 2015, 08:12:38 PM
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on September 22, 2015, 06:59:08 PM
Wingard wont choose to go he wants to be there he told GWS not to draft him he wanted to go to Port

For his initial contract maybe. But if Melbourne offered him 1.2 a season and port offered 800 I think his mind would change

Yep. Hawks will have plenty too
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: TomK on September 22, 2015, 08:55:28 PM
Quote from: meow meow on September 22, 2015, 08:48:08 PM
Swans have offered Michael Talia 400k a year for 3 years. The fact that he cracked the showers when we didn't select him and told his brother the game plan doesn't bode well for his future with us.
He'd be crazy not to take that. No way he'd get that anywhere else, 400k is overs.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Big Mac on September 22, 2015, 09:00:49 PM
Quote from: TomK on September 22, 2015, 08:55:28 PM
Quote from: meow meow on September 22, 2015, 08:48:08 PM
Swans have offered Michael Talia 400k a year for 3 years. The fact that he cracked the showers when we didn't select him and told his brother the game plan doesn't bode well for his future with us.
He'd be crazy not to take that. No way he'd get that anywhere else, 400k is overs.

Wow

Thought that was 400k over 3 years, not 1.2mil

Can't believe he would be offered that much
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: H1bb3i2d on September 22, 2015, 09:02:23 PM
Quote from: TomK on September 21, 2015, 10:25:10 PM
Quote from: Mat0369 on September 21, 2015, 10:11:21 PM
Quote from: TomK on September 21, 2015, 07:21:52 PM
Yes we can?

No you can't. If you match the contract he would be in his first year of a new contract which means you can't trade him. This is the reason 3 way trades in the AFL exist, you can trade picks but not players.
If we match, he is still uncontracted and he becomes like any regular player out of contract. He doesn't instantly become contracted.

The AFL website is even running with the possibility that we match to force a trade.

Yeah, just cus they offer him a contract doesn't mean he has to sign it. Can't be in the first year of a contract he never signed!
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Toga on September 22, 2015, 11:10:08 PM
I rate Michael Talia, could be a very astute pickup for the Swannies.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: My Chumps on September 22, 2015, 11:26:24 PM
Quote from: Toga on September 22, 2015, 11:10:08 PM
I rate Michael Talia, could be a very astute pickup for the Swannies.
Absolutely need it with Teddy nearing the end. Grundy too, although he's still contracted for a few more years.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Football Factory on September 23, 2015, 11:32:41 AM
Yup good move if you can get Talia
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: elephants on September 23, 2015, 11:41:43 AM
I do rate M.Talia as a player but geez if he spilt the beans to his brother on the eve of the Ade/Dogs elim final then thats incredibly poor.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Ricochet on September 23, 2015, 01:53:46 PM
SEN 1116 ‏@SENNews
BREAKING | SEN understands Nathan Freeman has told Collingwood he wants to leave the club, and has requested a trade to @stkildafc
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: T Dog on September 23, 2015, 02:04:00 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on September 23, 2015, 01:53:46 PM
SEN 1116 ‏@SENNews
BREAKING | SEN understands Nathan Freeman has told Collingwood he wants to leave the club, and has requested a trade to @stkildafc

Some players will do anything to get a senior game  :'(
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: RaisyDaisy on September 23, 2015, 02:05:37 PM
Adelaide releasing a statement later today - said to announce that Danger has told them he wants to go to Geelong

No surprise, but looks like confirmation
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Pkbaldy on September 23, 2015, 02:15:13 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on September 23, 2015, 01:53:46 PM
SEN 1116 ‏@SENNews
BREAKING | SEN understands Nathan Freeman has told Collingwood he wants to leave the club, and has requested a trade to @stkildafc

Oh flower! Didn't expect this. After re-watching his draftee profile, he seems like he likes the smell of his own farts...He's that up himself... And apparently he wants 300k a year... He HASN'T played a flowering game yet... Pay anything over a 3rd rounder and 120k a year... It's well overs...
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: JBs-Hawks on September 23, 2015, 02:29:34 PM
Hearing rumours that Wingards been done for coke but can't find anything about it
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Pkbaldy on September 23, 2015, 02:43:54 PM
Quote from: JBs-Hawks on September 23, 2015, 02:29:34 PM
Hearing rumours that Wingards been done for coke but can't find anything about it

Harley Bennell confirmed for Port?
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: RaisyDaisy on September 23, 2015, 02:54:46 PM
Danger officially gone from Adelaide. Returning to VIC is reason, but Geelong was not specifically mentioned
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Mr.Craig on September 23, 2015, 03:15:38 PM
Surprised about Freeman. Will be interesting to see where he ends up.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: T Dog on September 23, 2015, 03:19:03 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on September 23, 2015, 02:54:46 PM
Danger officially gone from Adelaide. Returning to VIC is reason, but Geelong was not specifically mentioned

C'mon Eddie. Open that fat Collingwood wallet. Now is the time.  8)
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Toga on September 23, 2015, 03:22:08 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on September 23, 2015, 02:54:46 PM
Danger officially gone from Adelaide. Returning to VIC is reason, but Geelong was not specifically mentioned

Richmond! :D
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: kilbluff1985 on September 23, 2015, 03:24:58 PM
Freeman makes things interesting regarding Carlisle

Saints don't want to give their 1st pick for Carlisle and probably feel the same with Freeman

so if they get one of them with their 2nd rounder + player or whatever how will they get the other

Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Mr.Craig on September 23, 2015, 03:27:01 PM
Nathan Freeman to St Kilda? He should still be rookie priced... so bring him in your midfield next year if he gets opportunity. #AFLFantasy
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Pkbaldy on September 23, 2015, 03:38:39 PM
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on September 23, 2015, 03:24:58 PM
Freeman makes things interesting regarding Carlisle

Saints don't want to give their 1st pick for Carlisle and probably feel the same with Freeman

so if they get one of them with their 2nd rounder + player or whatever how will they get the other

I'm still confident that Carlisle will be traded for our 2nd rounder + player...

So unless the Pies will take our 3rd rounder... I have no idea on how he will get to us... Without having to do something with our top pick... Or we trade 2nd rounder of next year for Freeman?
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: kilbluff1985 on September 23, 2015, 03:42:09 PM
unless you can convince Pies to take two 2nd rounders one from 2016
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: RiOtChEsS on September 23, 2015, 03:49:42 PM
The Crows could match The Cats offer, what are the chances he signs with a Vic based club for mega money so they cant match?
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Toga on September 23, 2015, 03:50:22 PM
If Geelong make an offer and Adelaide match, could another team make an offer as well?
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Pkbaldy on September 23, 2015, 03:50:45 PM
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on September 23, 2015, 03:42:09 PM
unless you can convince Pies to take two 2nd rounders one from 2016

Hmm... Hard to value him.... 2 years of injuries and VFL games only... Surely isn't worth more than 1 pick?
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: shaker on September 23, 2015, 04:34:22 PM
Quote from: Toga on September 23, 2015, 03:22:08 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on September 23, 2015, 02:54:46 PM
Danger officially gone from Adelaide. Returning to VIC is reason, but Geelong was not specifically mentioned

Richmond! :D

Yes Toga the Tiges should throw the kitchen sink at Danger money , trades , players whatever it takes.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: TomK on September 23, 2015, 04:42:13 PM
Quote from: shaker on September 23, 2015, 04:34:22 PM
Quote from: Toga on September 23, 2015, 03:22:08 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on September 23, 2015, 02:54:46 PM
Danger officially gone from Adelaide. Returning to VIC is reason, but Geelong was not specifically mentioned

Richmond! :D

Yes Toga the Tiges should throw the kitchen sink at Danger money , trades , players whatever it takes.
Sorry to disappoint but it is nothing but Geelong
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: H1bb3i2d on September 23, 2015, 04:46:40 PM
You always gotta ask, where would you take them if they were in this year's draft? Considering the apparent drop off after the top 10, both Freeman and Carlisle seem like they wouldn't make it past a late first round pick. Makes me wonder what players the Saints would consider trading
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Bill Manspeaker on September 23, 2015, 04:51:32 PM
don't worry Nathan, not long now till you're a Free man
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: shaker on September 23, 2015, 04:51:43 PM
Quote from: TomK on September 23, 2015, 04:42:13 PM
Quote from: shaker on September 23, 2015, 04:34:22 PM
Quote from: Toga on September 23, 2015, 03:22:08 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on September 23, 2015, 02:54:46 PM
Danger officially gone from Adelaide. Returning to VIC is reason, but Geelong was not specifically mentioned

Richmond! :D

Yes Toga the Tiges should throw the kitchen sink at Danger money , trades , players whatever it takes.
Sorry to disappoint but it is nothing but Geelong

Never underestimate the power of money this will be his last big contract and have seen the figure of 800k that geelong is offering whether that is correct I don't know but he will command way more than that , I'm sure he will not mind driving from Melbourne to Geelong for a few 100K more or he could just do a Bronnie Bishop  :P
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: RaisyDaisy on September 23, 2015, 04:59:54 PM
Another club could jag him

Geelong cannot pay him more than Jelwood. They just can't, and they wont

If another club rocked up and said "here's 1.2M" or something massive like that, they could be a chance

Geelong in the box seat, but still a silly chance another club might get in
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Spite on September 23, 2015, 05:09:58 PM
Quote from: Pkbaldy on September 23, 2015, 03:50:45 PM
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on September 23, 2015, 03:42:09 PM
unless you can convince Pies to take two 2nd rounders one from 2016

Hmm... Hard to value him.... 2 years of injuries and VFL games only... Surely isn't worth more than 1 pick?

Way too hard to value him. Fact is he was pick 10 only two seasons ago and we paid to have his hammies fixed by specialists from other sides of the world for memory. Not sure it worked but we invested heavily in him. Don't know if that "increases" his price from a 3rd rounder to a 2nd rounder, but can't see us accepting anything less than like pick 25 for him. Surely we will get your second rounder from next season instead minimum
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Ricochet on September 23, 2015, 05:11:10 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on September 23, 2015, 04:59:54 PM
Another club could jag him

Geelong cannot pay him more than Jelwood. They just can't, and they wont

If another club rocked up and said "here's 1.2M" or something massive like that, they could be a chance

Geelong in the box seat, but still a silly chance another club might get in

Quote from: Barra13 on September 21, 2015, 11:36:19 AM
Gia on Channel 7 Footy Show saying Melbourne has offered Dangerfield money that Adelaide and Geelong can't ($1.5mil).
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Southstorm on September 23, 2015, 05:14:10 PM
Quote from: Pkbaldy on September 23, 2015, 03:38:39 PM
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on September 23, 2015, 03:24:58 PM
Freeman makes things interesting regarding Carlisle

Saints don't want to give their 1st pick for Carlisle and probably feel the same with Freeman

so if they get one of them with their 2nd rounder + player or whatever how will they get the other

I'm still confident that Carlisle will be traded for our 2nd rounder + player...

So unless the Pies will take our 3rd rounder... I have no idea on how he will get to us... Without having to do something with our top pick... Or we trade 2nd rounder of next year for Freeman?
If all the saints are going to offer us is two vfl players in return then we may as well let him walk to carlton. Either way we get nothing.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Toga on September 23, 2015, 05:14:14 PM
Melbourne, Richmond and St Kilda all supposedly have up to an extra 500K a season in salary cap room for next year given their salary cap numbers for this year apparently...
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Big Mac on September 23, 2015, 05:15:44 PM
Quote from: Bill Manspeaker on September 23, 2015, 04:51:32 PM
don't worry Nathan, not long now till you're a Free man

;D
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: silloc on September 23, 2015, 05:22:51 PM
I hope the future picks trading creates some interesting gambles. For example swap of next years first round pick for your first round pick this year.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Spite on September 23, 2015, 05:26:48 PM
Quote from: silloc on September 23, 2015, 05:22:51 PM
I hope the future picks trading creates some interesting gambles. For example swap of next years first round pick for your first round pick this year.

That would be very cool!
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Purple 77 on September 23, 2015, 06:20:06 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on September 23, 2015, 05:11:10 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on September 23, 2015, 04:59:54 PM
Another club could jag him

Geelong cannot pay him more than Jelwood. They just can't, and they wont

If another club rocked up and said "here's 1.2M" or something massive like that, they could be a chance

Geelong in the box seat, but still a silly chance another club might get in

Quote from: Barra13 on September 21, 2015, 11:36:19 AM
Gia on Channel 7 Footy Show saying Melbourne has offered Dangerfield money that Adelaide and Geelong can't ($1.5mil).

Exactly! His lack of declaring a destination just gives me more hope!
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: silloc on September 24, 2015, 10:45:17 AM
Quote from: Spite on September 23, 2015, 05:26:48 PM
Quote from: silloc on September 23, 2015, 05:22:51 PM
I hope the future picks trading creates some interesting gambles. For example swap of next years first round pick for your first round pick this year.

That would be very cool!

lol, we think its cool because we are football nerds. I imagine the average person would be like "...why would that matter?"
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: T Dog on September 24, 2015, 11:33:54 AM
Quote from: silloc on September 24, 2015, 10:45:17 AM
Quote from: Spite on September 23, 2015, 05:26:48 PM
Quote from: silloc on September 23, 2015, 05:22:51 PM
I hope the future picks trading creates some interesting gambles. For example swap of next years first round pick for your first round pick this year.

That would be very cool!

lol, we think its cool because we are football nerds. I imagine the average person would be like "...why would that matter?"

Nerds...c'mon we aren't Nerds. 

Nerd (adjective: nerdy) is a descriptive term, often used pejoratively, indicating that a person is overly intellectual, obsessive, or lacking social skills. They may spend inordinate amounts of time on unpopular, obscure, or non-mainstream activities, which are generally either highly technical or relating to topics of fiction or fantasy, to the exclusion of more mainstream activities. Additionally, many nerds are described as being shy, quirky, and unattractive, and may have difficulty participating in, or even following, sports. Though originally derogatory, "Nerd" is a stereotypical term, but as with other pejoratives, it has been reclaimed and redefined by some as a term of pride and group identity. ......ooops hang on   :-[ :-[ :-[
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: shaker on September 24, 2015, 03:05:27 PM
Quote from: T Dog on September 24, 2015, 11:33:54 AM
Quote from: silloc on September 24, 2015, 10:45:17 AM
Quote from: Spite on September 23, 2015, 05:26:48 PM
Quote from: silloc on September 23, 2015, 05:22:51 PM
I hope the future picks trading creates some interesting gambles. For example swap of next years first round pick for your first round pick this year.

That would be very cool!

lol, we think its cool because we are football nerds. I imagine the average person would be like "...why would that matter?"

Nerds...c'mon we aren't Nerds. 

Nerd (adjective: nerdy) is a descriptive term, often used pejoratively, indicating that a person is overly intellectual, obsessive, or lacking social skills. They may spend inordinate amounts of time on unpopular, obscure, or non-mainstream activities, which are generally either highly technical or relating to topics of fiction or fantasy, to the exclusion of more mainstream activities. Additionally, many nerds are described as being shy, quirky, and unattractive, and may have difficulty participating in, or even following, sports. Though originally derogatory, "Nerd" is a stereotypical term, but as with other pejoratives, it has been reclaimed and redefined by some as a term of pride and group identity. ......ooops hang on   :-[ :-[ :-[

Hahaha T Dog very funny  ;D , the truth hurts sometimes  :P
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Spite on September 24, 2015, 03:11:43 PM
Quote from: shaker on September 24, 2015, 03:05:27 PM
Quote from: T Dog on September 24, 2015, 11:33:54 AM
Quote from: silloc on September 24, 2015, 10:45:17 AM
Quote from: Spite on September 23, 2015, 05:26:48 PM
Quote from: silloc on September 23, 2015, 05:22:51 PM
I hope the future picks trading creates some interesting gambles. For example swap of next years first round pick for your first round pick this year.

That would be very cool!

lol, we think its cool because we are football nerds. I imagine the average person would be like "...why would that matter?"

Nerds...c'mon we aren't Nerds. 

Nerd (adjective: nerdy) is a descriptive term, often used pejoratively, indicating that a person is overly intellectual, obsessive, or lacking social skills. They may spend inordinate amounts of time on unpopular, obscure, or non-mainstream activities, which are generally either highly technical or relating to topics of fiction or fantasy, to the exclusion of more mainstream activities. Additionally, many nerds are described as being shy, quirky, and unattractive, and may have difficulty participating in, or even following, sports. Though originally derogatory, "Nerd" is a stereotypical term, but as with other pejoratives, it has been reclaimed and redefined by some as a term of pride and group identity. ......ooops hang on   :-[ :-[ :-[

Hahaha T Dog very funny  ;D , the truth hurts sometimes  :P

We aren't Nerds, we are Geeks!

The word geek is a slang term originally used to describe eccentric or non-mainstream people; in current use, the word typically connotes an expert or enthusiast or a person obsessed with a hobby or intellectual pursuit, with a general pejorative meaning of a "peculiar or otherwise dislikable person, esp[ecially] one who is perceived to be overly intellectual".[1]

Although often considered as a pejorative, the term is also used self-referentially without malice or as a source of pride. Its meaning has evolved to connote "someone who is interested in a subject (usually intellectual or complex) for its own sake".
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: silloc on September 24, 2015, 03:35:34 PM
Quote from: Spite on September 24, 2015, 03:11:43 PM
Quote from: shaker on September 24, 2015, 03:05:27 PM
Quote from: T Dog on September 24, 2015, 11:33:54 AM
Quote from: silloc on September 24, 2015, 10:45:17 AM
Quote from: Spite on September 23, 2015, 05:26:48 PM
Quote from: silloc on September 23, 2015, 05:22:51 PM
I hope the future picks trading creates some interesting gambles. For example swap of next years first round pick for your first round pick this year.

That would be very cool!

lol, we think its cool because we are football nerds. I imagine the average person would be like "...why would that matter?"

Nerds...c'mon we aren't Nerds. 

Nerd (adjective: nerdy) is a descriptive term, often used pejoratively, indicating that a person is overly intellectual, obsessive, or lacking social skills. They may spend inordinate amounts of time on unpopular, obscure, or non-mainstream activities, which are generally either highly technical or relating to topics of fiction or fantasy, to the exclusion of more mainstream activities. Additionally, many nerds are described as being shy, quirky, and unattractive, and may have difficulty participating in, or even following, sports. Though originally derogatory, "Nerd" is a stereotypical term, but as with other pejoratives, it has been reclaimed and redefined by some as a term of pride and group identity. ......ooops hang on   :-[ :-[ :-[

Hahaha T Dog very funny  ;D , the truth hurts sometimes  :P

We aren't Nerds, we are Geeks!

The word geek is a slang term originally used to describe eccentric or non-mainstream people; in current use, the word typically connotes an expert or enthusiast or a person obsessed with a hobby or intellectual pursuit, with a general pejorative meaning of a "peculiar or otherwise dislikable person, esp[ecially] one who is perceived to be overly intellectual".[1]

Although often considered as a pejorative, the term is also used self-referentially without malice or as a source of pride. Its meaning has evolved to connote "someone who is interested in a subject (usually intellectual or complex) for its own sake".

Thanks for the clarification
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Football Factory on September 24, 2015, 03:39:04 PM
Im a Geek ?  :'(
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: nrich102 on September 24, 2015, 03:47:25 PM
I'm Greek?

So the Lions are linked with Grimely fromHawthorn Box Hill. Been the leading goal kicked in the VFL for a couple of seasons, could possibly fit into the team. Any chance of it happening?
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: silloc on September 24, 2015, 04:36:35 PM
I wanted grimly at the essendonians
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Football Factory on September 24, 2015, 05:41:45 PM
I delisted Grimlee  ;D   last year   :o
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: JBs-Hawks on September 24, 2015, 05:52:47 PM
3 posts in a row and none of you can spell his name right haha
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Big Mac on September 24, 2015, 06:00:37 PM
I would think his prospects are looking grim
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: nrich102 on September 24, 2015, 06:07:14 PM
Quote from: JBs-Hawks on September 24, 2015, 05:52:47 PM
3 posts in a row and none of you can spell his name right haha
On my phone don't judge lol.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Football Factory on September 24, 2015, 07:00:32 PM
Quote from: JBs-Hawks on September 24, 2015, 05:52:47 PM
3 posts in a row and none of you can spell his name right haha
I meant to do that  ;)
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: powersuperkents on September 25, 2015, 01:31:38 PM
Regarding Michael Talia.

I would not be surprised if what he did ends his AFL career. Granted he is a good player, however not many clubs would be willing to recruit such a volatile person. I would say the team's that have a defined strategy (e.g. Freo, Sydney, Bulldogs, Port, WCE, Hawthorn) would be playing a greater risk than the teams that do not if recruiting him.

I think clubs will assume that it was a mere learning experience and it won't happen again. He would be a good pick up. But personally he needs to be punished for his spiteful actions and I think it will take time for his new club, whichever club that may be, to trust him - unless it's the Crows who will treat him like a hero  :P
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: T Dog on September 25, 2015, 01:49:53 PM
Anyone else heard about Pies being interested in Jeremy Howe or is it just more radio dribble.?
Actually don't mind it as a Pies man if there is anything to it.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Football Factory on September 25, 2015, 02:01:43 PM
Quote from: T Dog on September 25, 2015, 01:49:53 PM
Anyone else heard about Pies being interested in Jeremy Howe or is it just more radio dribble.?
Actually don't mind it as a Pies man if there is anything to it.

Collingwood are interested in everyone, and everyone wants to go there apparently so I would say with no real evidence that Collingwood are interested  ;D
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: silloc on September 25, 2015, 02:08:22 PM
right now, I couldn't give a stuff who won the grandfinal... bring on the trades!!!
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Ricochet on September 25, 2015, 02:09:55 PM
Callum Twomey ‏@AFL_CalTwomey
GWS ruckman Andrew Phillips visited Carlton yesterday for a meeting/medical. Contracted but may end up there with a couple of other Giants.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: elephants on September 25, 2015, 02:10:36 PM
Quote from: silloc on September 25, 2015, 02:08:22 PM
right now, I couldn't give a stuff who went where... bring on the PRELIMS!!!
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Football Factory on September 25, 2015, 02:14:35 PM
Yeah hanging out for prelims .. plenty of time to waste on trade rumours though  :)
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: kilbluff1985 on September 25, 2015, 02:43:40 PM
yet u guys still opened the thread lol
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: silloc on September 25, 2015, 04:01:00 PM
Melksham officially requesting a trade
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: kilbluff1985 on September 25, 2015, 04:19:48 PM
Gold Coast's Aaron Hall has signed a new deal that will tie him to the Suns until the end of the 2018 season.

RIP the dream
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Southstorm on September 25, 2015, 06:11:32 PM
Melksham to Melbourne I guess. Probably worth a second rounder.

Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: kilbluff1985 on September 25, 2015, 06:15:38 PM
Quote from: Southstorm on September 25, 2015, 06:11:32 PM
Melksham to Melbourne I guess. Probably worth a second rounder.

get a 3 way trade done with Z Smith

Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Big Mac on September 25, 2015, 06:24:41 PM
Quote from: Southstorm on September 25, 2015, 06:11:32 PM
Melksham to Melbourne I guess. Probably worth a second rounder.

you guys can have terlich
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: powersuperkents on September 25, 2015, 06:56:06 PM
http://www.portadelaidefc.com.au/news/2015-09-25/hartlett-i-dont-want-to-leave (http://www.portadelaidefc.com.au/news/2015-09-25/hartlett-i-dont-want-to-leave)

Keep your hands off Richmond  :P

If any club wants to steal a Port player, it had to be during the dark days (and even then it was unlikely), we are champions at player retention and I have no doubts Wingard & Wines will be next to resign with the club
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: AaronKirk on September 25, 2015, 07:03:46 PM
Kreuzer re-signs with Carlton according to little pudding guts Jay Clark from the Herald Sun
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: lachie_001 on September 26, 2015, 01:15:52 PM
Quote from: powersuperkents on September 25, 2015, 01:31:38 PM
Regarding Michael Talia.

I would not be surprised if what he did ends his AFL career. Granted he is a good player, however not many clubs would be willing to recruit such a volatile person. I would say the team's that have a defined strategy (e.g. Freo, Sydney, Bulldogs, Port, WCE, Hawthorn) would be playing a greater risk than the teams that do not if recruiting him.

I think clubs will assume that it was a mere learning experience and it won't happen again. He would be a good pick up. But personally he needs to be punished for his spiteful actions and I think it will take time for his new club, whichever club that may be, to trust him - unless it's the Crows who will treat him like a hero  :P
Just heard on FiveAA that what he was speaking to Daniel, Daniel was saying he was going to play on Stringer and Michael said he plays up the ground a lot. Thats just brothers talking football, nothing Daniel and the AFC couldn't find out themselves. If thats the case I would be really disappointed in the way the Western Bulldogs and Luke Beveridge have handled the situation. Liam Pickering his manager described it as a storm in a tea cup. Considering how shallow Western Bulldogs defence is, I'm surprised they're happy to just force him out.

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2015-09-25/michael-talia-left-out-to-dry-over-leak-allegations-manager/6803664
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: powersuperkents on September 26, 2015, 04:39:48 PM
Quote from: lachie_001 on September 26, 2015, 01:15:52 PM
Quote from: powersuperkents on September 25, 2015, 01:31:38 PM
Regarding Michael Talia.

I would not be surprised if what he did ends his AFL career. Granted he is a good player, however not many clubs would be willing to recruit such a volatile person. I would say the team's that have a defined strategy (e.g. Freo, Sydney, Bulldogs, Port, WCE, Hawthorn) would be playing a greater risk than the teams that do not if recruiting him.

I think clubs will assume that it was a mere learning experience and it won't happen again. He would be a good pick up. But personally he needs to be punished for his spiteful actions and I think it will take time for his new club, whichever club that may be, to trust him - unless it's the Crows who will treat him like a hero  :P
Just heard on FiveAA that what he was speaking to Daniel, Daniel was saying he was going to play on Stringer and Michael said he plays up the ground a lot. Thats just brothers talking football, nothing Daniel and the AFC couldn't find out themselves. If thats the case I would be really disappointed in the way the Western Bulldogs and Luke Beveridge have handled the situation. Liam Pickering his manager described it as a storm in a tea cup. Considering how shallow Western Bulldogs defence is, I'm surprised they're happy to just force him out.

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2015-09-25/michael-talia-left-out-to-dry-over-leak-allegations-manager/6803664
I feel like it has to be more than that based on how the Bulldogs have reacted. If that is all I'll be very surprised because that is not even a leak - it's a known fact Stringer moves up the ground. The Bulldogs overreacted when the Suns stole their fitness coach so that could be the case.

+1, I agree, beyond their veterans their future back stocks are very shallow
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Ricochet on September 27, 2015, 02:11:20 PM
Stevo gave his update this morning

Carlisle most likely to Carlton
Whitecross to Brissie
Suckling to stay
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: RiOtChEsS on September 27, 2015, 02:19:14 PM
Quote from: powersuperkents on September 26, 2015, 04:39:48 PM
Quote from: lachie_001 on September 26, 2015, 01:15:52 PM
Quote from: powersuperkents on September 25, 2015, 01:31:38 PM
Regarding Michael Talia.

I would not be surprised if what he did ends his AFL career. Granted he is a good player, however not many clubs would be willing to recruit such a volatile person. I would say the team's that have a defined strategy (e.g. Freo, Sydney, Bulldogs, Port, WCE, Hawthorn) would be playing a greater risk than the teams that do not if recruiting him.

I think clubs will assume that it was a mere learning experience and it won't happen again. He would be a good pick up. But personally he needs to be punished for his spiteful actions and I think it will take time for his new club, whichever club that may be, to trust him - unless it's the Crows who will treat him like a hero  :P
Just heard on FiveAA that what he was speaking to Daniel, Daniel was saying he was going to play on Stringer and Michael said he plays up the ground a lot. Thats just brothers talking football, nothing Daniel and the AFC couldn't find out themselves. If thats the case I would be really disappointed in the way the Western Bulldogs and Luke Beveridge have handled the situation. Liam Pickering his manager described it as a storm in a tea cup. Considering how shallow Western Bulldogs defence is, I'm surprised they're happy to just force him out.

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2015-09-25/michael-talia-left-out-to-dry-over-leak-allegations-manager/6803664
I feel like it has to be more than that based on how the Bulldogs have reacted. If that is all I'll be very surprised because that is not even a leak - it's a known fact Stringer moves up the ground. The Bulldogs overreacted when the Suns stole their fitness coach so that could be the case.

+1, I agree, beyond their veterans their future back stocks are very shallow
if the bulldogs won would there have even bee an investigation? just seems like sour grapes to me
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Football Factory on September 27, 2015, 02:25:38 PM
Just brothers having a chat .. all seems rather strange to me.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: nas on September 27, 2015, 04:00:11 PM
Quote from: FOOTBALL FACTORY on September 27, 2015, 02:25:38 PM
Just brothers having a chat .. all seems rather strange to me.

Selwoods wouldn't do this! Surely not.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Football Factory on September 27, 2015, 04:02:44 PM
Quote from: nas on September 27, 2015, 04:00:11 PM
Quote from: FOOTBALL FACTORY on September 27, 2015, 02:25:38 PM
Just brothers having a chat .. all seems rather strange to me.

Selwoods wouldn't do this! Surely not.

haha that's a lot of teams secrets  :o
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: RaisyDaisy on September 27, 2015, 09:25:44 PM
Not players, but Lloyd and Kirk have left Freo
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: silloc on September 28, 2015, 10:19:05 AM
Dodoro "We think melksham would need to be traded for a top pick or somebody like Jesse Hogan"

(he didn't really say that. but if I would've just left it as the quote you would've totally believed it)
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: kilbluff1985 on September 28, 2015, 10:31:47 AM
or not
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: silloc on September 28, 2015, 12:20:48 PM
Z.Clarke signed on for +1 year. Obviously contracting until Sandilands hangs up the boots, if he isn't no.1 ruckman by the end of next year he will probably leave.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Big Mac on September 28, 2015, 06:44:40 PM
Rumours going around that the dees have offered Danger 9-10 mil over 6 years

I stress the word 'rumour' - very unlikely imo and I don't think he's worth that much
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Purple 77 on September 28, 2015, 07:33:41 PM
Quote from: Big  Mac on September 28, 2015, 06:44:40 PM
Rumours going around that the dees have offered Danger 9-10 mil over 6 years

I stress the word 'rumour' - very unlikely imo and I don't think he's worth that much

I lost hope when Danger said he was hopeful Geelong and Adelaide would work something out  :-\
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Money Shot on September 28, 2015, 07:57:43 PM
Carlton are keen on Liam Sumner and Lachie Plowman ... Don't really know much about them but hopefully they are good pick ups!
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: meow meow on September 28, 2015, 08:00:07 PM
Quote from: Money Shot on September 28, 2015, 07:57:43 PM
Carlton are keen on Liam Sumner and Lachie Plowman ... Don't really know much about them but hopefully they are good pick ups!

Pick 1 to GWS so they can get the KPD they really need.

Pick 8, Plowman, Sumner, Phillips to Carlton

Pick 8 to Essendon for Carlisle
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Money Shot on September 28, 2015, 08:01:13 PM
Quote from: meow meow on September 28, 2015, 08:00:07 PM
Quote from: Money Shot on September 28, 2015, 07:57:43 PM
Carlton are keen on Liam Sumner and Lachie Plowman ... Don't really know much about them but hopefully they are good pick ups!

Pick 1 to GWS so they can get the KPD they really need.

Pick 8, Plowman, Sumner, Phillips to Carlton

Pick 8 to Essendon for Carlisle
Carlton better not give pick 1 up ...
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: powersuperkents on September 28, 2015, 08:25:39 PM
Quote from: Purple 77 on September 28, 2015, 07:33:41 PM
Quote from: Big  Mac on September 28, 2015, 06:44:40 PM
Rumours going around that the dees have offered Danger 9-10 mil over 6 years

I stress the word 'rumour' - very unlikely imo and I don't think he's worth that much

I lost hope when Danger said he was hopeful Geelong and Adelaide would work something out  :-\
+1

He's not leaving for money and he is a free agent so he can turn down any possible offers.

However, I'm not saying he wouldn't consider it  :P

But I think he's made his reason for leaving the Crows quite apparent and I think he's guaranteed to go to Geelong after a trade has been sorted.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Ricochet on September 29, 2015, 09:57:10 AM
2015 AFL Season ‏@theafloffseason
Jeremy Howe is set to meet with Collingwood according to 1116 SEN.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Purple 77 on September 29, 2015, 10:02:04 AM
Quote from: Ricochet on September 29, 2015, 09:57:10 AM
2015 AFL Season ‏@theafloffseason
Jeremy Howe is set to meet with Collingwood according to 1116 SEN.

Will take Seedsman!
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: silloc on September 29, 2015, 10:24:41 AM
Quote from: Purple 77 on September 29, 2015, 10:02:04 AM
Quote from: Ricochet on September 29, 2015, 09:57:10 AM
2015 AFL Season ‏@theafloffseason
Jeremy Howe is set to meet with Collingwood according to 1116 SEN.

Will take Seedsman!

We'll give you melksham for howe
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Ricochet on September 29, 2015, 10:28:31 AM
Also based on what GAJ said last night, GC could be speaking to SJ soon
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: silloc on September 29, 2015, 11:18:09 AM
Quote from: meow meow on September 28, 2015, 08:00:07 PM
Quote from: Money Shot on September 28, 2015, 07:57:43 PM
Carlton are keen on Liam Sumner and Lachie Plowman ... Don't really know much about them but hopefully they are good pick ups!

Pick 1 to GWS so they can get the KPD they really need.

Pick 8, Plowman, Sumner, Phillips to Carlton

Pick 8 to Essendon for Carlisle

Like the idea, but I doubt anyone will trade pick 1 ever again
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: kilbluff1985 on September 29, 2015, 11:22:24 AM
Quote from: silloc on September 29, 2015, 11:18:09 AM
Quote from: meow meow on September 28, 2015, 08:00:07 PM
Quote from: Money Shot on September 28, 2015, 07:57:43 PM
Carlton are keen on Liam Sumner and Lachie Plowman ... Don't really know much about them but hopefully they are good pick ups!

Pick 1 to GWS so they can get the KPD they really need.

Pick 8, Plowman, Sumner, Phillips to Carlton

Pick 8 to Essendon for Carlisle

Like the idea, but I doubt anyone will trade pick 1 ever again

how can u make a statement like that lol
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: silloc on September 29, 2015, 12:18:55 PM
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on September 29, 2015, 11:22:24 AM
Quote from: silloc on September 29, 2015, 11:18:09 AM
Quote from: meow meow on September 28, 2015, 08:00:07 PM
Quote from: Money Shot on September 28, 2015, 07:57:43 PM
Carlton are keen on Liam Sumner and Lachie Plowman ... Don't really know much about them but hopefully they are good pick ups!

Pick 1 to GWS so they can get the KPD they really need.

Pick 8, Plowman, Sumner, Phillips to Carlton

Pick 8 to Essendon for Carlisle

Like the idea, but I doubt anyone will trade pick 1 ever again

how can u make a statement like that lol

I know its a big statement, but I just don't think it will happen ever again.

It seems like today all the teams that are chasing the players have the power, as the players make the decision on where they want to go now. So nobody needs to offer pick 1 for a player.

I just think the probability is too high for everything to work perfectly enough for the 1st pick to be on the table. It might happen once in the next 50 years 
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: powersuperkents on September 29, 2015, 12:37:11 PM
Quote from: silloc on September 29, 2015, 11:18:09 AM
Quote from: meow meow on September 28, 2015, 08:00:07 PM
Quote from: Money Shot on September 28, 2015, 07:57:43 PM
Carlton are keen on Liam Sumner and Lachie Plowman ... Don't really know much about them but hopefully they are good pick ups!

Pick 1 to GWS so they can get the KPD they really need.

Pick 8, Plowman, Sumner, Phillips to Carlton

Pick 8 to Essendon for Carlisle

Like the idea, but I doubt anyone will trade pick 1 ever again
+1

I agree, but for an additional reason. Pick 1 is always the prototypical player for their position (besides last year where the Saints passed on the prototype to recruit McCartin for personnel needs). Even when they occasionally bust (every few years), teams are willing to take the punt on the quintessential player of a certain position over a regular player, or number of regular players.

Weitering & Schache could really achieve a lot in the long-term and their builds give them a significant advantage over the opposition.

While Plowman is quite a pick up (hasn't shown it, but you can say that about half of the GWS top tier talent). But I don't think Philips and Sumner are worth it.

Carlton may benefit from a trade like this in both the short and long term, but people seem to have unrealistic expectations for a no. 1 draft pick in the lead up to the draft.

If it could land them Carlisle in a side trade - I think they would be crazy to pass on it (in form, I really rate Carlisle as a defender - he'll never be a good forward though, could be an All Australian defender though)
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Southstorm on September 29, 2015, 03:05:51 PM
For Carlton, that's a huge result. Four talented young players instead of one. Even if they got 3, that's still big.

Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Big Mac on September 29, 2015, 03:23:49 PM
Quote from: Purple 77 on September 29, 2015, 10:02:04 AM
Quote from: Ricochet on September 29, 2015, 09:57:10 AM
2015 AFL Season ‏@theafloffseason
Jeremy Howe is set to meet with Collingwood according to 1116 SEN.

Will take Seedsman!

Pls no
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Spite on September 29, 2015, 03:26:34 PM
Quote from: Big  Mac on September 29, 2015, 03:23:49 PM
Quote from: Purple 77 on September 29, 2015, 10:02:04 AM
Quote from: Ricochet on September 29, 2015, 09:57:10 AM
2015 AFL Season ‏@theafloffseason
Jeremy Howe is set to meet with Collingwood according to 1116 SEN.

Will take Seedsman!

Pls no

No to seedsman or no to Howe? I keep telling people that Seedsman hasn't had an injury free Pre-season yet and has to keep coming into the season underdone, he will be a solid player!
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: meow meow on September 29, 2015, 03:32:53 PM
Quote from: Spite on September 29, 2015, 03:26:34 PM
Quote from: Big  Mac on September 29, 2015, 03:23:49 PM
Quote from: Purple 77 on September 29, 2015, 10:02:04 AM
Quote from: Ricochet on September 29, 2015, 09:57:10 AM
2015 AFL Season ‏@theafloffseason
Jeremy Howe is set to meet with Collingwood according to 1116 SEN.

Will take Seedsman!

Pls no

No to seedsman or no to Howe? I keep telling people that Seedsman hasn't had an injury free Pre-season yet and has to keep coming into the season underdone, he will be a solid player!

This time last year you also said Josh Thomas is better than Jake Stringer though. Might be looking through black and white coloured glasses. Offensively Seedsman is awesome but his defensive game makes him an absolute liability. Can't play him forward since he can't mark. Can't win his own ball so can't play midfield. He could be an Isaac Smith wing type if he learnt how to concentrate and not get lost but his concentration lapses costs goals too often. Sucks in a one-on-one contest too.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Spite on September 29, 2015, 03:50:16 PM
Quote from: meow meow on September 29, 2015, 03:32:53 PM
Quote from: Spite on September 29, 2015, 03:26:34 PM
Quote from: Big  Mac on September 29, 2015, 03:23:49 PM
Quote from: Purple 77 on September 29, 2015, 10:02:04 AM
Quote from: Ricochet on September 29, 2015, 09:57:10 AM
2015 AFL Season ‏@theafloffseason
Jeremy Howe is set to meet with Collingwood according to 1116 SEN.

Will take Seedsman!

Pls no

No to seedsman or no to Howe? I keep telling people that Seedsman hasn't had an injury free Pre-season yet and has to keep coming into the season underdone, he will be a solid player!

This time last year you also said Josh Thomas is better than Jake Stringer though. Might be looking through black and white coloured glasses. Offensively Seedsman is awesome but his defensive game makes him an absolute liability. Can't play him forward since he can't mark. Can't win his own ball so can't play midfield. He could be an Isaac Smith wing type if he learnt how to concentrate and not get lost but his concentration lapses costs goals too often. Sucks in a one-on-one contest too.

I'm not sure I said that but if I did, I still think JT was better than Stringer last year. The fact stringer exploded this season is irrelevant. I also don't know why you brought that up now, did you want me to go back through some of your more ridiculous calls and post them to try and discredit your views?
Moving on from that, I have never hidden the fact Seedsman is a defensive liability. I've said it myself. I certainty do think he can be an Isaac Smith type player in the future but let's not judge a player who hasn't had a pre-season at all yet since it is quite amazing what one can do.

EDIT*

Quote from: Spite on August 12, 2015, 04:21:27 PM

The kid has never had a preseason at AFL level, always gets injured at the start of every year. All it takes is a good pre-season and he will be set. Of course learning two way running and having some defensive capabilities wouldn't hurt in real AFL terms, not fantasy.

Just in case you thought my black and white coloured glasses was stopping me from seeing a flaw in him Meow. Also how did you determine my definition of a "Solid player"? We could have very different definitions of a "solid" player and I can't see how even after what you wrote, you don't think in the future he can be a "solid" player at all? You said he could be an Isaac Smith wing type player if he learned how to concentrate so is that not solid? Exactly what part did you not like about what I originally said?
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: meow meow on September 29, 2015, 04:10:12 PM
Haha just pointing out that you overrate players in black and white! Players can survive on potential for only so long. Seedsman was huge on Anzac Day but later in the season he looked terrible in the VFL. He's no certainty to make it at AFL level. There's plenty of things that a preseason won't fix. Collingwood would be well aware that he had no preseason but they're willing to trade him anyway. There is other aspects of his game other than fitness that he needs to work on and the Pies must not think he can improve on them so they are willing to move him on by the sounds of it.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Spite on September 29, 2015, 04:23:38 PM
Quote from: meow meow on September 29, 2015, 04:10:12 PM
Haha just pointing out that you overrate players in black and white! Players can survive on potential for only so long. Seedsman was huge on Anzac Day but later in the season he looked terrible in the VFL. He's no certainty to make it at AFL level. There's plenty of things that a preseason won't fix.

Stringer 12.22 disposals, 1.44 goals, 2.39 tackles, 0.5 goal assists
JThomas 19 disposals, 0.7 goals, 4.6 tackles and 0.7 goal assists

Unsubbed averages from 2014. Both in their second year. Stringer obviously played deeper forward and JT played forward unless injury permitted him to play in the midfield. He had 3 goals and 29 touches twice out of 10 games.

My quote of what was said was "Josh Thomas has shown at least equal to what stringer has. "

I still think that is a very fair statement. I guess if everyone can look above and without a doubt say stringer had the better year then maybe I am not only overrating Collingwood players but stats in general.

EDIT* I messed up and fixed the stats
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: meow meow on September 29, 2015, 04:50:22 PM
Quote from: Spite on September 29, 2015, 04:23:38 PM
Quote from: meow meow on September 29, 2015, 04:10:12 PM
Haha just pointing out that you overrate players in black and white! Players can survive on potential for only so long. Seedsman was huge on Anzac Day but later in the season he looked terrible in the VFL. He's no certainty to make it at AFL level. There's plenty of things that a preseason won't fix.

Stringer 12.22 disposals, 1.44 goals, 2.39 tackles, 0.5 goal assists
JThomas 19 disposals, 0.7 goals, 4.6 tackles and 0.7 goal assists

Unsubbed averages from 2014. Both in their second year. Stringer obviously played deeper forward and JT played forward unless injury permitted him to play in the midfield. He had 3 goals and 29 touches twice out of 10 games.

My quote of what was said was "Josh Thomas has shown at least equal to what stringer has. "

I still think that is a very fair statement. I guess if everyone can look above and without a doubt say stringer had the better year then maybe I am not only overrating Collingwood players but stats in general.

EDIT* I messed up and fixed the stats

Yep stats across the season don't tell the story. Stringer didn't really do anything this year that he wasn't already doing in the 2nd half of last year once he returned from his stint in the VFL. He was like 2 different players over the course of the 2014 season and really established himself in the second half of the year once things clicked. From round 15 onwards he kicked 22 goals and has simply kept that up this year.

It was Thomas' fourth year on Collingwood's list btw (injured the first 2 seasons). I like him and think he could be that solid player you're talking about but the Package had shown enough to suggest that he was going to be a force to be reckoned with.

IIRC the conversation was about who has the better players going forward, not who performed better in the season just gone.

But anyway, Seedsman could still go either way. Might be a solid or even gun AFL player or he could fail to improve and fade away to nothing. I wouldn't say he's a certainty to do either at this stage of his career and at 24 years old the clock is ticking.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Spite on September 29, 2015, 05:14:31 PM
Quote from: meow meow on September 29, 2015, 04:50:22 PM
Quote from: Spite on September 29, 2015, 04:23:38 PM
Quote from: meow meow on September 29, 2015, 04:10:12 PM
Haha just pointing out that you overrate players in black and white! Players can survive on potential for only so long. Seedsman was huge on Anzac Day but later in the season he looked terrible in the VFL. He's no certainty to make it at AFL level. There's plenty of things that a preseason won't fix.

Stringer 12.22 disposals, 1.44 goals, 2.39 tackles, 0.5 goal assists
JThomas 19 disposals, 0.7 goals, 4.6 tackles and 0.7 goal assists

Unsubbed averages from 2014. Both in their second year. Stringer obviously played deeper forward and JT played forward unless injury permitted him to play in the midfield. He had 3 goals and 29 touches twice out of 10 games.

My quote of what was said was "Josh Thomas has shown at least equal to what stringer has. "

I still think that is a very fair statement. I guess if everyone can look above and without a doubt say stringer had the better year then maybe I am not only overrating Collingwood players but stats in general.

EDIT* I messed up and fixed the stats

Yep stats across the season don't tell the story. Stringer didn't really do anything this year that he wasn't already doing in the 2nd half of last year once he returned from his stint in the VFL. He was like 2 different players over the course of the 2014 season and really established himself in the second half of the year once things clicked. From round 15 onwards he kicked 22 goals and has simply kept that up this year.

It was Thomas' fourth year on Collingwood's list btw (injured the first 2 seasons). I like him and think he could be that solid player you're talking about but the Package had shown enough to suggest that he was going to be a force to be reckoned with.

IIRC the conversation was about who has the better players going forward, not who performed better in the season just gone.

But anyway, Seedsman could still go either way. Might be a solid or even gun AFL player or he could fail to improve and fade away to nothing. I wouldn't say he's a certainty to do either at this stage of his career and at 24 years old the clock is ticking.

Sure but remember we don't judge or care about season 2015 in the context of this discussion. I see Stringer kicking 22 goals in 8 games and also him kicking 4 goals in 10 games. I had to judge him on both of those and obviously I could see his potential was quite great given those stats. But then I look at JT having two games purely on the ball and him gathering 29 touches and 3 goals, not once but twice. I see potential there too. So I said JT has shown at least equal to what Stringer has.
And that was with JT not having many pre seasons because of injuries  ;D (I meant both second year playing, I knew JT was injured and a foot injury is never good news)
Looking back on the convo, it looks like I was talking about who had drafted the best from 2008 onwards. I had compared players how they had gone until that point but if you were talking about who would be better in the future then that is entirely possible and would've just been a misunderstanding.

Back to Seedsman, sure it is plausible he is being traded out because we don't think he will make it, but on the flip side, there is significant interest by at least 4 clubs, so they obviously think he can make it.
I think it is more of a case of we initially wanted him to develop as a running half back flank but realistically, with Reid, Brown, Frost, Goldy, Toovey, Marley, Langdon, Shaz, Ramsay and potentially Oxley already in front of him, what is the point in holding him? If we want him as a winger, we are already losing Freeman because there aren't enough mid spots so Seeds has no chance.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: kilbluff1985 on September 29, 2015, 05:19:52 PM
guys can u like discuss this in another thread
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: meow meow on September 29, 2015, 05:25:45 PM
Haha I think we're done.

Something that belongs here is that Geelong has told Hendo that they probably won't be able to pick him up now, and he walked out on the Blues thinking he was headed to the Cats haha.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: powersuperkents on September 29, 2015, 05:45:17 PM
Quote from: meow meow on September 29, 2015, 05:25:45 PM
Haha I think we're done.

Something that belongs here is that Geelong has told Hendo that they probably won't be able to pick him up now, and he walked out on the Blues thinking he was headed to the Cats haha.
The fact he didn't respect his contract with Carlton (and failed to play the season out before informing them of his decision) will not be perceived well by other clubs.

I still think a few teams would pursue him though

I'm happy that the Crows have forced the Cats to the trade table. It would have been unfair if they got Scooter, Hendo, & Danger (thus rebuilding their club) over one offseason (I'm not sure about how they could afford it either)
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: RaisyDaisy on September 30, 2015, 03:57:03 PM
Good to see the AFL knocked back Carlton and Brisbane's applications for a priority pick
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Purple 77 on September 30, 2015, 04:27:33 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on September 30, 2015, 03:57:03 PM
Good to see the AFL knocked back Carlton and Brisbane's applications for a priority pick

!
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Ricochet on September 30, 2015, 04:37:28 PM
http://www.afc.com.au/adelaidecrows/news/2015-09-30/crows-announce-list-changes?vgnextrefresh=1

QuoteBrodie Martin and rookie-listed pair Anthony Wilson and Jack Osborn (Category B) haven’t been offered new contracts for next season.

As agreed, Sam Siggins has also been delisted after returning to Tasmania for personal reasons in August.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: RaisyDaisy on September 30, 2015, 04:49:57 PM
I reckon Brodie Martin has more to offer

Has the ability to be best 22 in a lower ranked side I think. Hopefully for his sake he gets picked up
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: RaisyDaisy on September 30, 2015, 04:51:16 PM
Quote from: powersuperkents on September 29, 2015, 05:45:17 PM
I'm happy that the Crows have forced the Cats to the trade table. It would have been unfair if they got Scooter, Hendo, & Danger (thus rebuilding their club) over one offseason (I'm not sure about how they could afford it either)

Eagles are going to send Cats to the table too. Will match what Geelong offer him
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Ricochet on September 30, 2015, 06:05:54 PM
Bennell has met with Richmond today.

Don't be silly Harley, you know you want to come home
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: powersuperkents on September 30, 2015, 06:12:05 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on September 30, 2015, 04:51:16 PM
Quote from: powersuperkents on September 29, 2015, 05:45:17 PM
I'm happy that the Crows have forced the Cats to the trade table. It would have been unfair if they got Scooter, Hendo, & Danger (thus rebuilding their club) over one offseason (I'm not sure about how they could afford it either)

Eagles are going to send Cats to the table too. Will match what Geelong offer him
Yep, so Hendo is now definitely out of the equation for the Cats
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: elephants on September 30, 2015, 06:13:45 PM
Quote from: powersuperkents on September 30, 2015, 06:12:05 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on September 30, 2015, 04:51:16 PM
Quote from: powersuperkents on September 29, 2015, 05:45:17 PM
I'm happy that the Crows have forced the Cats to the trade table. It would have been unfair if they got Scooter, Hendo, & Danger (thus rebuilding their club) over one offseason (I'm not sure about how they could afford it either)

Eagles are going to send Cats to the table too. Will match what Geelong offer him

Good stuff, Scooter + 2nd Rounder for Mitch Duncan!
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: jvalles69 on September 30, 2015, 06:22:07 PM
Quote from: elephants on September 30, 2015, 06:13:45 PM
Quote from: powersuperkents on September 30, 2015, 06:12:05 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on September 30, 2015, 04:51:16 PM
Quote from: powersuperkents on September 29, 2015, 05:45:17 PM
I'm happy that the Crows have forced the Cats to the trade table. It would have been unfair if they got Scooter, Hendo, & Danger (thus rebuilding their club) over one offseason (I'm not sure about how they could afford it either)

Eagles are going to send Cats to the table too. Will match what Geelong offer him

Good stuff, Scooter + 2nd Rounder for Mitch Duncan!

Yep!  I said a month or so ago Duncan was a late withdrawel from a game for no reason and never came back, think they are keeping him fresh for tradebait and I reckon Scooter was what they had in mind.  Would be incredible if we could somehow get Duncan, Jetta and Redden.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: RaisyDaisy on September 30, 2015, 06:35:10 PM
I dont want Jetta. Looks like we will get him but I kind of wish we don't. Redden and Duncan please!
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: elephants on September 30, 2015, 06:37:07 PM
We need a quick outside player though. As much as I dislike Jetta, I would tolerate his BS if it meant adding a new dimnesion to our midfield.

In saying that though, I'd much rather Harley even if it cost us our chance at say a Redden.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: jvalles69 on September 30, 2015, 06:40:33 PM
Quote from: elephants on September 30, 2015, 06:37:07 PM
We need a quick outside player though. As much as I dislike Jetta, I would tolerate his BS if it meant adding a new dimnesion to our midfield.

In saying that though, I'd much rather Harley even if it cost us our chance at say a Redden.

I've heard around the traps that Bennell is a lock for Freo.

Agree about Jetta, we've never had a speedy player like him.  Remember those days where Carlton of all team used to beat us?  In my opinion it was because we had noone who could run with Betts, Garlett and Yarren (no probs now as they are all pretty much gone).  Run Jetta off a wing or halfback and when the other team has a speedy player match Jetta on them to negate their influence.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Purple 77 on September 30, 2015, 08:49:41 PM
Demonland (A forum for Melbourne supporters for those that don't know) are saying that they've heard rumours that Spud Toumpas has requested a trade to Port Adelaide...

:D
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: powersuperkents on September 30, 2015, 09:08:00 PM
Quote from: Purple 77 on September 30, 2015, 08:49:41 PM
Demonland (A forum for Melbourne supporters for those that don't know) are saying that they've heard rumours that Spud Toumpas has requested a trade to Port Adelaide...

:D
Flower no!!!  >:(

I'm not one to doubt Hinkley's ability. But he isn't worth adding more to the salary cap for.

After Danger leaves, he could become the Crows best player though  :P
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Mat0369 on September 30, 2015, 09:24:33 PM
Quote from: jvalles69 on September 30, 2015, 06:40:33 PM
I've heard around the traps that Bennell is a lock for Freo.

Agree about Jetta, we've never had a speedy player like him.  Remember those days where Carlton of all team used to beat us?  In my opinion it was because we had noone who could run with Betts, Garlett and Yarren (no probs now as they are all pretty much gone).  Run Jetta off a wing or halfback and when the other team has a speedy player match Jetta on them to negate their influence.

We were actually a pretty good team and caused both teams a lot of trouble on that ground, then Mick came along.....

Add in Simmo, Walker, Murph and Judd. We had quite a bit of pace in that side at one point.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Toga on October 01, 2015, 09:37:48 AM
SEN reporting Collingwood's Ben Kennedy will play for Melbourne next year!
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Purple 77 on October 01, 2015, 09:47:07 AM
Quote from: Toga on October 01, 2015, 09:37:48 AM
SEN reporting Collingwood's Ben Kennedy will play for Melbourne next year!

:o
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Big Mac on October 01, 2015, 10:35:53 AM
Interesting

Can any pies supporters explain why he didn't get many games this year? Is it just that other guys like Elliot were ahead of him or were there other reasons?

Not sure he can play as a full time mid, and I don't know if he can find enough of the ball while forward. He has pace though, which is something we really lack
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: powersuperkents on October 01, 2015, 12:00:02 PM
Quote from: Big  Mac on October 01, 2015, 10:35:53 AM
Interesting

Can any pies supporters explain why he didn't get many games this year? Is it just that other guys like Elliot were ahead of him or were there other reasons?

Not sure he can play as a full time mid, and I don't know if he can find enough of the ball while forward. He has pace though, which is something we really lack
It was for the former reason. He struggled to compete with Elliot, Blair, Broomhead etc.

I would rate Bennedy higher than Garlett in the forward line (although Garlett has been a handy forward pocket).

A good pick up for the Dees imo
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Spite on October 01, 2015, 12:41:13 PM
Quote from: powersuperkents on October 01, 2015, 12:00:02 PM
Quote from: Big  Mac on October 01, 2015, 10:35:53 AM
Interesting

Can any pies supporters explain why he didn't get many games this year? Is it just that other guys like Elliot were ahead of him or were there other reasons?

Not sure he can play as a full time mid, and I don't know if he can find enough of the ball while forward. He has pace though, which is something we really lack
It was for the former reason. He struggled to compete with Elliot, Blair, Broomhead etc.

I would rate Bennedy higher than Garlett in the forward line (although Garlett has been a handy forward pocket).

A good pick up for the Dees imo

No way he's better than Garlett are you joking?
He couldn't crack a game because he wasn't good enough, period. We basically gifted him chances to prove himself and maybe even to make him stay but he couldn't cope with top level footy and looked all out of sorts. I watch him in the VFL and he's a completely different player than what he is in the AFL.

Hopefully for you Dees supporters he can be the AFL player like he plays VFL but if not, you're going to pay a high price for another very average player
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: silloc on October 01, 2015, 01:17:06 PM
Quote from: Spite on October 01, 2015, 12:41:13 PM
Quote from: powersuperkents on October 01, 2015, 12:00:02 PM
Quote from: Big  Mac on October 01, 2015, 10:35:53 AM
Interesting

Can any pies supporters explain why he didn't get many games this year? Is it just that other guys like Elliot were ahead of him or were there other reasons?

Not sure he can play as a full time mid, and I don't know if he can find enough of the ball while forward. He has pace though, which is something we really lack
It was for the former reason. He struggled to compete with Elliot, Blair, Broomhead etc.

I would rate Bennedy higher than Garlett in the forward line (although Garlett has been a handy forward pocket).

A good pick up for the Dees imo

No way he's better than Garlett are you joking?
He couldn't crack a game because he wasn't good enough, period. We basically gifted him chances to prove himself and maybe even to make him stay but he couldn't cope with top level footy and looked all out of sorts. I watch him in the VFL and he's a completely different player than what he is in the AFL.

Hopefully for you Dees supporters he can be the AFL player like he plays VFL but if not, you're going to pay a high price for another very average player

although I agree that he is nowhere near garlett, that's harsh. You're only talking about a 3rd year player.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Spite on October 01, 2015, 02:18:57 PM
Quote from: silloc on October 01, 2015, 01:17:06 PM
Quote from: Spite on October 01, 2015, 12:41:13 PM
Quote from: powersuperkents on October 01, 2015, 12:00:02 PM
Quote from: Big  Mac on October 01, 2015, 10:35:53 AM
Interesting

Can any pies supporters explain why he didn't get many games this year? Is it just that other guys like Elliot were ahead of him or were there other reasons?

Not sure he can play as a full time mid, and I don't know if he can find enough of the ball while forward. He has pace though, which is something we really lack
It was for the former reason. He struggled to compete with Elliot, Blair, Broomhead etc.

I would rate Bennedy higher than Garlett in the forward line (although Garlett has been a handy forward pocket).

A good pick up for the Dees imo

No way he's better than Garlett are you joking?
He couldn't crack a game because he wasn't good enough, period. We basically gifted him chances to prove himself and maybe even to make him stay but he couldn't cope with top level footy and looked all out of sorts. I watch him in the VFL and he's a completely different player than what he is in the AFL.

Hopefully for you Dees supporters he can be the AFL player like he plays VFL but if not, you're going to pay a high price for another very average player

although I agree that he is nowhere near garlett, that's harsh. You're only talking about a 3rd year player.

Sure, it is harsh. But where do you draw the line? He really hasn't shown anything to be excited about in his 3 seasons. Being drafted with broomhead and Grundy, who have shown a lot more already, along with already being overtaken by players drafted just last season (De Goey, Moore are already playing) isn't a good sign for him.
I'm not even including scharenberg who will probably start for us now, or even Freeman, who before injuries was quite likely ahead of kennedy in the pecking order.
It is harsh but he could have even been in delistment discussions, we had to get rid of Dwyer who was definitely a handy player for us. I think it is a great time for him to switch clubs and try and get a game somewhere else, a fantastic career move and I hope it all works out for him, it just wasn't going to work out at the Pies.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Ricochet on October 01, 2015, 02:29:45 PM
Quote- 1116 SEN is reporting that Adelaide's Cameron Ellis-Yolmen could be on the way out of the club, as he is yet to be offered a new contract for next season.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: TomK on October 01, 2015, 02:32:23 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on October 01, 2015, 02:29:45 PM
Quote- 1116 SEN is reporting that Adelaide's Cameron Ellis-Yolmen could be on the way out of the club, as he is yet to be offered a new contract for next season.
Rumours he is off to Sydney
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Spite on October 01, 2015, 02:32:55 PM
Quote from: TomK on October 01, 2015, 02:32:23 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on October 01, 2015, 02:29:45 PM
Quote- 1116 SEN is reporting that Adelaide's Cameron Ellis-Yolmen could be on the way out of the club, as he is yet to be offered a new contract for next season.
Rumours he is off to Sydney

Wow, do they really need another mid?
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: TomK on October 01, 2015, 02:35:01 PM
Quote from: Spite on October 01, 2015, 02:32:55 PM
Quote from: TomK on October 01, 2015, 02:32:23 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on October 01, 2015, 02:29:45 PM
Quote- 1116 SEN is reporting that Adelaide's Cameron Ellis-Yolmen could be on the way out of the club, as he is yet to be offered a new contract for next season.
Rumours he is off to Sydney

Wow, do they really need another mid?
Probably not but apparently they're keen.

I hope we keep him, he showed a bit when we played him in the first half of the season.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: jvalles69 on October 01, 2015, 02:40:17 PM
Quote from: TomK on October 01, 2015, 02:35:01 PM
Quote from: Spite on October 01, 2015, 02:32:55 PM
Quote from: TomK on October 01, 2015, 02:32:23 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on October 01, 2015, 02:29:45 PM
Quote- 1116 SEN is reporting that Adelaide's Cameron Ellis-Yolmen could be on the way out of the club, as he is yet to be offered a new contract for next season.
Rumours he is off to Sydney

Wow, do they really need another mid?
Probably not but apparently they're keen.

I hope we keep him, he showed a bit when we played him in the first half of the season.

FFS Sydney, send Tommy Mitchell back west will ya!  ;D
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Nige on October 01, 2015, 02:54:06 PM
Sounds like Woosha is the new Bombers coach.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Purple 77 on October 01, 2015, 02:55:42 PM
Quote from: Nige on October 01, 2015, 02:54:06 PM
Sounds like Woosha is the new Bombers coach.

I'm just glad it means McCartney stays at the Dees  :D
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Rusty00 on October 01, 2015, 03:06:21 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on October 01, 2015, 02:29:45 PM
Quote- 1116 SEN is reporting that Adelaide's Cameron Ellis-Yolmen could be on the way out of the club, as he is yet to be offered a new contract for next season.
Bit surprising I thought. Seems the logical replacement for Scotty Thompson and I thought was pretty handy in the first half of the season.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: silloc on October 01, 2015, 03:07:57 PM
Quote from: Spite on October 01, 2015, 02:18:57 PM
Quote from: silloc on October 01, 2015, 01:17:06 PM
Quote from: Spite on October 01, 2015, 12:41:13 PM
Quote from: powersuperkents on October 01, 2015, 12:00:02 PM
Quote from: Big  Mac on October 01, 2015, 10:35:53 AM
Interesting

Can any pies supporters explain why he didn't get many games this year? Is it just that other guys like Elliot were ahead of him or were there other reasons?

Not sure he can play as a full time mid, and I don't know if he can find enough of the ball while forward. He has pace though, which is something we really lack
It was for the former reason. He struggled to compete with Elliot, Blair, Broomhead etc.

I would rate Bennedy higher than Garlett in the forward line (although Garlett has been a handy forward pocket).

A good pick up for the Dees imo

No way he's better than Garlett are you joking?
He couldn't crack a game because he wasn't good enough, period. We basically gifted him chances to prove himself and maybe even to make him stay but he couldn't cope with top level footy and looked all out of sorts. I watch him in the VFL and he's a completely different player than what he is in the AFL.

Hopefully for you Dees supporters he can be the AFL player like he plays VFL but if not, you're going to pay a high price for another very average player

although I agree that he is nowhere near garlett, that's harsh. You're only talking about a 3rd year player.

Sure, it is harsh. But where do you draw the line? He really hasn't shown anything to be excited about in his 3 seasons. Being drafted with broomhead and Grundy, who have shown a lot more already, along with already being overtaken by players drafted just last season (De Goey, Moore are already playing) isn't a good sign for him.
I'm not even including scharenberg who will probably start for us now, or even Freeman, who before injuries was quite likely ahead of kennedy in the pecking order.
It is harsh but he could have even been in delistment discussions, we had to get rid of Dwyer who was definitely a handy player for us. I think it is a great time for him to switch clubs and try and get a game somewhere else, a fantastic career move and I hope it all works out for him, it just wasn't going to work out at the Pies.

I understand your logic, but if he is dominating in the VFL and can't transfer it to seniors, you'd want to persist with him a little longer. Colyer is 24 and only really cemented his spot this year
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Toga on October 01, 2015, 03:34:24 PM
I also think that's a bit harsh on Kennedy. Think the sub rule has really prevented him from getting a real opportunity to showcase himself tbh - comes into the team one week after solid VFL form, plays as sub and comes on late without getting much of an opportunity and is first dropped the next week.

That's just how I see it anyways - I really rate him!
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Spite on October 01, 2015, 03:41:58 PM
Quote from: silloc on October 01, 2015, 03:07:57 PM
Quote from: Spite on October 01, 2015, 02:18:57 PM
Quote from: silloc on October 01, 2015, 01:17:06 PM
Quote from: Spite on October 01, 2015, 12:41:13 PM
Quote from: powersuperkents on October 01, 2015, 12:00:02 PM
Quote from: Big  Mac on October 01, 2015, 10:35:53 AM
Interesting

Can any pies supporters explain why he didn't get many games this year? Is it just that other guys like Elliot were ahead of him or were there other reasons?

Not sure he can play as a full time mid, and I don't know if he can find enough of the ball while forward. He has pace though, which is something we really lack
It was for the former reason. He struggled to compete with Elliot, Blair, Broomhead etc.

I would rate Bennedy higher than Garlett in the forward line (although Garlett has been a handy forward pocket).

A good pick up for the Dees imo

No way he's better than Garlett are you joking?
He couldn't crack a game because he wasn't good enough, period. We basically gifted him chances to prove himself and maybe even to make him stay but he couldn't cope with top level footy and looked all out of sorts. I watch him in the VFL and he's a completely different player than what he is in the AFL.

Hopefully for you Dees supporters he can be the AFL player like he plays VFL but if not, you're going to pay a high price for another very average player

although I agree that he is nowhere near garlett, that's harsh. You're only talking about a 3rd year player.

Sure, it is harsh. But where do you draw the line? He really hasn't shown anything to be excited about in his 3 seasons. Being drafted with broomhead and Grundy, who have shown a lot more already, along with already being overtaken by players drafted just last season (De Goey, Moore are already playing) isn't a good sign for him.
I'm not even including scharenberg who will probably start for us now, or even Freeman, who before injuries was quite likely ahead of kennedy in the pecking order.
It is harsh but he could have even been in delistment discussions, we had to get rid of Dwyer who was definitely a handy player for us. I think it is a great time for him to switch clubs and try and get a game somewhere else, a fantastic career move and I hope it all works out for him, it just wasn't going to work out at the Pies.

I understand your logic, but if he is dominating in the VFL and can't transfer it to seniors, you'd want to persist with him a little longer. Colyer is 24 and only really cemented his spot this year

I think the major difference in those two is, correct me if I am wrong, role. Colyer would be playing the same position in the VFL as he does in the AFL whereas Kennedy has lots of mid time in the VFL and then has to play as a forward in the AFL and he's just not a great forward. On top of that, his kicking is really poor at AFL (not VFL level) and we have enough players who can't hit a target. I think other clubs like Melbourne can afford to nurture and give him more chances but because of all the youth already ahead of him, we can't.

Quote from: Toga on October 01, 2015, 03:34:24 PM
I also think that's a bit harsh on Kennedy. Think the sub rule has really prevented him from getting a real opportunity to showcase himself tbh - comes into the team one week after solid VFL form, plays as sub and comes on late without getting much of an opportunity and is first dropped the next week.

That's just how I see it anyways - I really rate him!

He did play 3 unsubbed games this year, and was probably back to back worst on ground in two of those. In his final game of the year he kicked 2 soccer goals and really, they did not show any real goal kicking prowess, no one would have missed kicking a ball off the ground in the square.

I was a huge Ben Kennedy fan and have watched him over the past 3 years, he really hasn't come along too well compared to others and fortunately there is still time for him to come good, but just not at the Pies.

I can't understand why you really rate him still, are you just mesmerised at the fact he was a good junior? He hasn't done anything good at all for people to rate him... People on here really rated Darley and Howard too, well after it became obvious they just weren't going to make it at AFL level.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: RaisyDaisy on October 01, 2015, 03:44:28 PM
Quote from: Rusty00 on October 01, 2015, 03:06:21 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on October 01, 2015, 02:29:45 PM
Quote- 1116 SEN is reporting that Adelaide's Cameron Ellis-Yolmen could be on the way out of the club, as he is yet to be offered a new contract for next season.
Bit surprising I thought. Seems the logical replacement for Scotty Thompson and I thought was pretty handy in the first half of the season.

Thought the same - surprised they would just cut him

As for Bennedy, he is sooooo overrated around this place (FF). Yeah he's a decent kid with some talent, but so are plenty others yet he has always been hyped up around here which I have never understood
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: powersuperkents on October 01, 2015, 04:56:37 PM
Quote from: Rusty00 on October 01, 2015, 03:06:21 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on October 01, 2015, 02:29:45 PM
Quote- 1116 SEN is reporting that Adelaide's Cameron Ellis-Yolmen could be on the way out of the club, as he is yet to be offered a new contract for next season.
Bit surprising I thought. Seems the logical replacement for Scotty Thompson and I thought was pretty handy in the first half of the season.
I think the Crows are backing Matt Crouch to assume that role in the future
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Ricochet on October 01, 2015, 04:58:16 PM
Quote from: powersuperkents on October 01, 2015, 04:56:37 PM
Quote from: Rusty00 on October 01, 2015, 03:06:21 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on October 01, 2015, 02:29:45 PM
Quote- 1116 SEN is reporting that Adelaide's Cameron Ellis-Yolmen could be on the way out of the club, as he is yet to be offered a new contract for next season.
Bit surprising I thought. Seems the logical replacement for Scotty Thompson and I thought was pretty handy in the first half of the season.
I think the Crows are backing Matt Crouch to assume that role in the future
Gun NDT boy ;)
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: RaisyDaisy on October 01, 2015, 05:01:35 PM
Matty Crouch is a bit of butcher and doesn't have the build CEY does

I really like what I saw from CEY - hopefully he's AFL career continues
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Ricochet on October 01, 2015, 05:03:18 PM
AFL 24/7 ‏@AFLTrade
Fremantle are emerging as a big chance of getting Melbourne's Jeremy Howe. #AFL #AFLTrade


:o
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Pkbaldy on October 01, 2015, 05:05:28 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on October 01, 2015, 05:03:18 PM
AFL 24/7 ‏@AFLTrade
Fremantle are emerging as a big chance of getting Melbourne's Jeremy Howe. #AFL #AFLTrade


:o

Hmmm... Guess this means super dooper unlikely they'll get McCarthy this year then haha.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Ricochet on October 01, 2015, 05:06:35 PM
Quote from: Pkbaldy on October 01, 2015, 05:05:28 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on October 01, 2015, 05:03:18 PM
AFL 24/7 ‏@AFLTrade
Fremantle are emerging as a big chance of getting Melbourne's Jeremy Howe. #AFL #AFLTrade


:o

Hmmm... Guess this means super dooper unlikely they'll get McCarthy this year then haha.
means they'll use our offers as leverage to get more $$$ to stay in Vic... like they do every year :(
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: jvalles69 on October 01, 2015, 05:08:31 PM
Quote from: Pkbaldy on October 01, 2015, 05:05:28 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on October 01, 2015, 05:03:18 PM
AFL 24/7 ‏@AFLTrade
Fremantle are emerging as a big chance of getting Melbourne's Jeremy Howe. #AFL #AFLTrade


:o

Hmmm... Guess this means super dooper unlikely they'll get McCarthy this year then haha.

Wow, if they do, thats another dud signing...

Have heard McCarthy isn't going any where on the news this morning so maybe thats why they've gone for the dregs.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Ricochet on October 01, 2015, 05:09:51 PM
Quote from: jvalles69 on October 01, 2015, 05:08:31 PM
Quote from: Pkbaldy on October 01, 2015, 05:05:28 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on October 01, 2015, 05:03:18 PM
AFL 24/7 ‏@AFLTrade
Fremantle are emerging as a big chance of getting Melbourne's Jeremy Howe. #AFL #AFLTrade


:o

Hmmm... Guess this means super dooper unlikely they'll get McCarthy this year then haha.

Wow, if they do, thats another dud signing...

Have heard McCarthy isn't going any where on the news this morning so maybe thats why they've gone for the dregs.

This came out today as well

Quote from: Ricochet on October 01, 2015, 04:25:47 PM
So after reports came out McCarthy is staying at the Giants....



http://m.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/afl-trades-richmond-fremantle-to-battle-for-harley-bennells-services/story-fnp04d70-1227551251977
QuoteThe Dockers hopes of securing GWS forward Cam McCarthy remain alive after his manager Colin Young angrily denied he has agreed to stay with the Giants.

He told the Herald Sun reports McCarthy had backed down on his determination to leave were false.

“Speculation Cam is keen to stay is completely wrong,’’ he told the Herald Sun.

“Cam is as keen to go home today as he was a month ago and he will absolutely be going through the process of a trade with Fremantle.”

McCarthy was born on the day of Fremantle’s first AFL game â€" April 1, 1995 â€" and remains a huge Dockers fan.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Purple 77 on October 01, 2015, 06:09:34 PM
Kinda feel like if Freo get Howe, then we will get the best outcome in a trade... just because the offer would have to be large enough for Howe to move to WA.

I do wonder what we'd get in return... Crozier and something maybe?
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Big Mac on October 01, 2015, 06:11:04 PM
Don't think Howe would be a good fit at Freo

Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: iZander on October 01, 2015, 06:12:32 PM
Quote from: Purple 77 on October 01, 2015, 06:09:34 PM
Kinda feel like if Freo get Howe, then we will get the best outcome in a trade... just because the offer would have to be large enough for Howe to move to WA.

I do wonder what we'd get in return... Crozier and something maybe?
Would be nothing like Melksham though  ;)
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: powersuperkents on October 01, 2015, 06:41:51 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on October 01, 2015, 05:01:35 PM
Matty Crouch is a bit of butcher and doesn't have the build CEY does

I really like what I saw from CEY - hopefully he's AFL career continues
I agree mate

I think the Crows favour Crouch because of his potential as an extractor. He's smaller than CEY, but seems to find the ball easily and he has shown promise as a contested ball winner. Disposal efficiency has always needed improvement though

I would say Crouch is a long-term prospect and that would be why CEY would want to leave (may see himself as just a 'placefiller' during the Thompson to Crouch transition - with questionable job security). 
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: powersuperkents on October 01, 2015, 06:44:26 PM
Quote from: Big  Mac on October 01, 2015, 06:11:04 PM
Don't think Howe would be a good fit at Freo
+1

I agree, Freo need a key forward who can start now (unlike Tabs who has a long way to go in his development). Howe could provide an aerial advantage that Balla & Walters don't have. But I would say they have their priorities mixed up if they bid for Howe over a key forward
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Ricochet on October 01, 2015, 06:45:19 PM
They used to say the exaaact same thing about Neale. Too small and butchered it
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Purple 77 on October 01, 2015, 06:48:51 PM
Quote from: iZander on October 01, 2015, 06:12:32 PM
Quote from: Purple 77 on October 01, 2015, 06:09:34 PM
Kinda feel like if Freo get Howe, then we will get the best outcome in a trade... just because the offer would have to be large enough for Howe to move to WA.

I do wonder what we'd get in return... Crozier and something maybe?
Would be nothing like Melksham though  ;)

Oh man, phwoah, there is not many like Melksham  :P
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Spite on October 01, 2015, 06:49:14 PM
Quote from: powersuperkents on October 01, 2015, 06:44:26 PM
Quote from: Big  Mac on October 01, 2015, 06:11:04 PM
Don't think Howe would be a good fit at Freo
+1

I agree, Freo need a key forward who can start now (unlike Tabs who has a long way to go in his development). Howe could provide an aerial advantage that Balla & Walters don't have. But I would say they have their priorities mixed up if they bid for Howe over a key forward

Why can't they bid for both? If they get a Key Forward and also Howe, that would be a pretty awesome outcome for them. A worthy key forward needs to be on the market first though... McCarthy would certainly be a good get
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: powersuperkents on October 01, 2015, 06:58:15 PM
Quote from: Spite on October 01, 2015, 06:49:14 PM
Quote from: powersuperkents on October 01, 2015, 06:44:26 PM
Quote from: Big  Mac on October 01, 2015, 06:11:04 PM
Don't think Howe would be a good fit at Freo
+1

I agree, Freo need a key forward who can start now (unlike Tabs who has a long way to go in his development). Howe could provide an aerial advantage that Balla & Walters don't have. But I would say they have their priorities mixed up if they bid for Howe over a key forward

Why can't they bid for both? If they get a Key Forward and also Howe, that would be a pretty awesome outcome for them. A worthy key forward needs to be on the market first though... McCarthy would certainly be a good get
I never said they couldn't. My post was unrelated to the one's above regarding McCarthy

I'm just trying to say that their priority should be a key forward, but I agree that recruiting a key forward (McCarthy looks highly unlikely though - not because of Howe but because GWS) and Howe would be a fantastic outcome.

If they had to choose one though, I would say the key forward is paramount.

I agree with the latter part and it's why I didn't name any key forwards in my post. Dixon seems to be destined for PAFC unless they reject it (which seems unlikely - but will strangle their salary cap) and McCarthy, so far, seems unavailable. I agree, I can't name any key forwards on the market besides those two off the top of my head and that's what will make it difficult for the Dockers - if they don't recruit a key forward, I have no doubt that Pav will stay on for another year (either way I see him most likely staying).

The prelim showed that what they need is a key forward and a medium forward (McCarthy/Dixon & Howe/Bennell would be perfect fits).
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: jvalles69 on October 01, 2015, 07:03:58 PM
Maybe Freo just want Howe so he can beat Nic Nat in the mark of the year comp and win them a car!  ;D
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Pkbaldy on October 01, 2015, 07:10:49 PM
Quote from: jvalles69 on October 01, 2015, 07:03:58 PM
Maybe Freo just want Howe so he can beat Nic Nat in the mark of the year comp and win them a car!  ;D

Is that so they can drive down to Melbourne to watch another grandfinal from the sidelines??
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: jvalles69 on October 01, 2015, 07:13:21 PM
Quote from: Pkbaldy on October 01, 2015, 07:10:49 PM
Quote from: jvalles69 on October 01, 2015, 07:03:58 PM
Maybe Freo just want Howe so he can beat Nic Nat in the mark of the year comp and win them a car!  ;D

Is that so they can drive down to Melbourne to watch another grandfinal from the sidelines??

#burn
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Big Mac on October 01, 2015, 07:14:47 PM
Quote from: Spite on October 01, 2015, 06:49:14 PM
Quote from: powersuperkents on October 01, 2015, 06:44:26 PM
Quote from: Big  Mac on October 01, 2015, 06:11:04 PM
Don't think Howe would be a good fit at Freo
+1

I agree, Freo need a key forward who can start now (unlike Tabs who has a long way to go in his development). Howe could provide an aerial advantage that Balla & Walters don't have. But I would say they have their priorities mixed up if they bid for Howe over a key forward

Why can't they bid for both? If they get a Key Forward and also Howe, that would be a pretty awesome outcome for them. A worthy key forward needs to be on the market first though... McCarthy would certainly be a good get

Howe's best position is in defence, and Freo need a forward
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Pkbaldy on October 01, 2015, 07:20:29 PM
Quote from: Big  Mac on October 01, 2015, 07:14:47 PM
Quote from: Spite on October 01, 2015, 06:49:14 PM
Quote from: powersuperkents on October 01, 2015, 06:44:26 PM
Quote from: Big  Mac on October 01, 2015, 06:11:04 PM
Don't think Howe would be a good fit at Freo
+1

I agree, Freo need a key forward who can start now (unlike Tabs who has a long way to go in his development). Howe could provide an aerial advantage that Balla & Walters don't have. But I would say they have their priorities mixed up if they bid for Howe over a key forward

Why can't they bid for both? If they get a Key Forward and also Howe, that would be a pretty awesome outcome for them. A worthy key forward needs to be on the market first though... McCarthy would certainly be a good get

Howe's best position is in defence, and Freo need a forward

I got a feeling they'll be distracted for most of the trade period trying to get McCarthy off the Giants and Bennell off the GC to get Howe....
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Ricochet on October 01, 2015, 08:37:13 PM
Quote from: Pkbaldy on October 01, 2015, 07:20:29 PM
Quote from: Big  Mac on October 01, 2015, 07:14:47 PM
Quote from: Spite on October 01, 2015, 06:49:14 PM
Quote from: powersuperkents on October 01, 2015, 06:44:26 PM
Quote from: Big  Mac on October 01, 2015, 06:11:04 PM
Don't think Howe would be a good fit at Freo
+1

I agree, Freo need a key forward who can start now (unlike Tabs who has a long way to go in his development). Howe could provide an aerial advantage that Balla & Walters don't have. But I would say they have their priorities mixed up if they bid for Howe over a key forward

Why can't they bid for both? If they get a Key Forward and also Howe, that would be a pretty awesome outcome for them. A worthy key forward needs to be on the market first though... McCarthy would certainly be a good get

Howe's best position is in defence, and Freo need a forward

I got a feeling they'll be distracted for most of the trade period trying to get McCarthy off the Giants and Bennell off the GC to get Howe....
They'll be in talks with 10+ players. They won't get distracted by trade talks, its what they do
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Purple 77 on October 02, 2015, 05:22:20 PM
Sam McClure saying Melbourne is chasing Luke Parker this trade period  :o

Considering he is under contract, I don't exactly see this happening  :-\
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: meow meow on October 02, 2015, 05:36:59 PM
Clubs should be banned from making offers to players who aren't coming out of contract. If McCarthy always wanted to return to WA he wouldn't have signed a contract extension beyond his initial two years. Freo put 700,000 a year in front of him so of course he'd want to leave now. The way things are going players will all be free agents every year who sign one year deals since respect for contracts from both players and clubs has gone out the window.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Ringo on October 02, 2015, 05:46:10 PM
Agree 100% MM. Maybe the AFL needs to get tough on these clubs that do it and make them use draft picks if they are still under contract, Will never happen though,
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: powersuperkents on October 02, 2015, 06:02:33 PM
Quote from: Ringo on October 02, 2015, 05:46:10 PM
Agree 100% MM. Maybe the AFL needs to get tough on these clubs that do it and make them use draft picks if they are still under contract, Will never happen though,
+1

Even when players are coming out of contract, they lack respect for the employment relationship. Henderson is this season's example - he should not have communicated his intention to leave until the end of the season.

Contracted players should really be off-limits - penalties should be imposed on offers as well
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Ricochet on October 02, 2015, 06:18:05 PM
Sydney are interested in Dempsey
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Big Mac on October 02, 2015, 07:02:44 PM
Quote from: powersuperkents on October 02, 2015, 06:02:33 PM
Quote from: Ringo on October 02, 2015, 05:46:10 PM
Agree 100% MM. Maybe the AFL needs to get tough on these clubs that do it and make them use draft picks if they are still under contract, Will never happen though,
+1

Even when players are coming out of contract, they lack respect for the employment relationship. Henderson is this season's example - he should not have communicated his intention to leave until the end of the season.

Contracted players should really be off-limits - penalties should be imposed on offers as well

I don't see anything wrong with what Henderson did

It allowed the Blues to make the best decision for their club going forward

And while it may not be ideal for clubs to headhunt players under contract, there will always be players who want to leave and there is no real way of tracking whether the player approached the club first or if the club approached the player
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Football Factory on October 02, 2015, 07:10:56 PM
AFL site article ... trade whispers


http://www.afl.com.au/news/2015-10-02/trade-whispers-bird-could-fly-from-swans
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: powersuperkents on October 02, 2015, 08:13:16 PM
Quote from: Big  Mac on October 02, 2015, 07:02:44 PM
Quote from: powersuperkents on October 02, 2015, 06:02:33 PM
Quote from: Ringo on October 02, 2015, 05:46:10 PM
Agree 100% MM. Maybe the AFL needs to get tough on these clubs that do it and make them use draft picks if they are still under contract, Will never happen though,
+1

Even when players are coming out of contract, they lack respect for the employment relationship. Henderson is this season's example - he should not have communicated his intention to leave until the end of the season.

Contracted players should really be off-limits - penalties should be imposed on offers as well

I don't see anything wrong with what Henderson did

It allowed the Blues to make the best decision for their club going forward

And while it may not be ideal for clubs to headhunt players under contract, there will always be players who want to leave and there is no real way of tracking whether the player approached the club first or if the club approached the player
Good points - I agree with the problems with regulating and enforcing these ideals (it would be impossible to do anything about this sort of conduct)

Yeah I guess both sides didn't act in the best manner with the Hendo incident. Hendo should have played out the contract and Carlton should have asked for his intentions when he chose to inform them earlier than expected (as you said he may of intended to give Carlton the opportunity to prepare) rather than excommunicate him  :P (I think the club may have taken his departure personally)

Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: tbagrocks on October 02, 2015, 08:53:43 PM
Quote from: meow meow on October 02, 2015, 05:36:59 PM
Clubs should be banned from making offers to players who aren't coming out of contract. If McCarthy always wanted to return to WA he wouldn't have signed a contract extension beyond his initial two years. Freo put 700,000 a year in front of him so of course he'd want to leave now. The way things are going players will all be free agents every year who sign one year deals since respect for contracts from both players and clubs has gone out the window.
Some idiot decided players needed rights! Good night evenness of a competition!
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Rusty00 on October 02, 2015, 09:12:32 PM
Quote from: tbagrocks on October 02, 2015, 08:53:43 PM
Quote from: meow meow on October 02, 2015, 05:36:59 PM
Clubs should be banned from making offers to players who aren't coming out of contract. If McCarthy always wanted to return to WA he wouldn't have signed a contract extension beyond his initial two years. Freo put 700,000 a year in front of him so of course he'd want to leave now. The way things are going players will all be free agents every year who sign one year deals since respect for contracts from both players and clubs has gone out the window.
Some idiots decided players needed rights! Good night evenness of a competition!
Those idiots just happen to be the players themselves ;)
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: SydneyRox on October 02, 2015, 10:17:01 PM
Quote from: Purple 77 on October 02, 2015, 05:22:20 PM
Sam McClure saying Melbourne is chasing Luke Parker this trade period  :o

Considering he is under contract, I don't exactly see this happening  :-\

never going to happen
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: kilbluff1985 on October 04, 2015, 12:46:10 AM
we should have a competition who can guess which player will be traded first
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Bill Manspeaker on October 04, 2015, 12:49:52 AM
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on October 04, 2015, 12:46:10 AM
we should have a competition who can guess which player will be traded first

I'll go Freeman
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Ricochet on October 04, 2015, 12:05:55 PM
its the spuds that go first :p

I'll go Melksham
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Ringo on October 04, 2015, 02:51:21 PM
Jack Redden for me will be early imo.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: T Dog on October 04, 2015, 03:01:42 PM
Bennell for sure
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Football Factory on October 04, 2015, 03:16:32 PM
Jake Carlisle
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Pkbaldy on October 04, 2015, 03:21:57 PM
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2015-10-04/tigers-pull-out-of-race-for-harley-bennell (http://www.afl.com.au/news/2015-10-04/tigers-pull-out-of-race-for-harley-bennell)

Looks set to go to Freo!!

I'm tipping for Freeman to be the first trade.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Vinny on October 04, 2015, 03:35:45 PM
I reckon it'll be Yarran.

Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: LF on October 04, 2015, 03:46:53 PM
Jetta since apparently it's a done deal already
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Football Factory on October 04, 2015, 04:02:48 PM
Looks like someone will be right .. just about named most of the players up for trade at the moment  ;D
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Ricochet on October 04, 2015, 04:04:46 PM
Quote from: Pkbaldy on October 04, 2015, 03:21:57 PM
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2015-10-04/tigers-pull-out-of-race-for-harley-bennell (http://www.afl.com.au/news/2015-10-04/tigers-pull-out-of-race-for-harley-bennell)

Looks set to go to Freo!!
Yeow

Now to play hardball and get him cheaper than what we should
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: _wato on October 04, 2015, 04:24:15 PM
That's a sweet looking forward line of Bennell, Walters, Ballas and Pav (if he's going on?) if they get him

Now all they need is another KPF (ready made) and their defence to step up in a prelim final (no McPharlin now), otherwise Fremantle are done, Sandi and Pav will both hang it up next year and Sandi makes Freo a 1000x better side

Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: meow meow on October 04, 2015, 04:27:50 PM
Sandi could play until he is 40. He's not going to shrink and he has no pace to lose.

My bet for first trade is even though he's still under contract, Lachie Plowman.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: elephants on October 04, 2015, 06:11:39 PM
Quote from: Ringo on October 04, 2015, 02:51:21 PM
Jack Redden for me will be early imo.

Where to mate?
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Pkbaldy on October 04, 2015, 06:28:09 PM
Quote from: elephants on October 04, 2015, 06:11:39 PM
Quote from: Ringo on October 04, 2015, 02:51:21 PM
Jack Redden for me will be early imo.

Where to mate?

The Eagles.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Ringo on October 04, 2015, 06:45:38 PM
Quote from: Pkbaldy on October 04, 2015, 06:28:09 PM
Quote from: elephants on October 04, 2015, 06:11:39 PM
Quote from: Ringo on October 04, 2015, 02:51:21 PM
Jack Redden for me will be early imo.

Where to mate?

The Eagles.
Thought you would have been over that one Ele.  Redden has nominated Eagles as his preferred destination. Think the deal will be done as it is better to get some currency for reddo now rather than next year when he is off contract.

Rumour is we are seeking one of Lycett or Sinclair as part of trade.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Pkbaldy on October 04, 2015, 06:47:45 PM
Quote from: Ringo on October 04, 2015, 06:45:38 PM
Quote from: Pkbaldy on October 04, 2015, 06:28:09 PM
Quote from: elephants on October 04, 2015, 06:11:39 PM
Quote from: Ringo on October 04, 2015, 02:51:21 PM
Jack Redden for me will be early imo.

Where to mate?

The Eagles.
Thought you would have been over that one Ele.  Redden has nominated Eagles as his preferred destination. Think the deal will be done as it is better to get some currency for reddo now rather than next year when he is off contract.

Rumour is we are seeking one of Lycett or Sinclair as part of trade.

I reckon this will be a later trade, not one of the first.
Because I'm pretty sure Sydney want Lycett or Sinclair for Jetta :P haha
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: elephants on October 04, 2015, 07:00:15 PM
Quote from: Pkbaldy on October 04, 2015, 06:47:45 PM
Quote from: Ringo on October 04, 2015, 06:45:38 PM
Quote from: Pkbaldy on October 04, 2015, 06:28:09 PM
Quote from: elephants on October 04, 2015, 06:11:39 PM
Quote from: Ringo on October 04, 2015, 02:51:21 PM
Jack Redden for me will be early imo.

Where to mate?

The Eagles.
Thought you would have been over that one Ele.  Redden has nominated Eagles as his preferred destination. Think the deal will be done as it is better to get some currency for reddo now rather than next year when he is off contract.

Rumour is we are seeking one of Lycett or Sinclair as part of trade.

I reckon this will be a later trade, not one of the first.
Because I'm pretty sure Sydney want Lycett or Sinclair for Jetta :P haha

I knew he wanted to come to us, but last I heard he was well down on our priority list. Don't need more slow inside mids with below average foot-skills :P
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: LF on October 04, 2015, 07:06:26 PM
Yeah have heard Redden is low priority for us
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: powersuperkents on October 04, 2015, 07:08:14 PM
Quote from: elephants on October 04, 2015, 07:00:15 PM
Quote from: Pkbaldy on October 04, 2015, 06:47:45 PM
Quote from: Ringo on October 04, 2015, 06:45:38 PM
Quote from: Pkbaldy on October 04, 2015, 06:28:09 PM
Quote from: elephants on October 04, 2015, 06:11:39 PM
Quote from: Ringo on October 04, 2015, 02:51:21 PM
Jack Redden for me will be early imo.

Where to mate?

The Eagles.
Thought you would have been over that one Ele.  Redden has nominated Eagles as his preferred destination. Think the deal will be done as it is better to get some currency for reddo now rather than next year when he is off contract.

Rumour is we are seeking one of Lycett or Sinclair as part of trade.

I reckon this will be a later trade, not one of the first.
Because I'm pretty sure Sydney want Lycett or Sinclair for Jetta :P haha

I knew he wanted to come to us, but last I heard he was well down on our priority list. Don't need more slow inside mids with below average foot-skills :P
+1

Eagles already have Pridda playing the Redden role, and I think by the time Pridda retires Sheed will be significantly better than Redden. Shuey is another inside mid I rate significantly higher than Redden and he also has speed (something a lot of inside mids lack). Don't think the Eagles will give the Lions a ruck for Redden as they can only spare one and they will be trying to negotiate with the Swans (they need a speedy precise outside mid to compliment Gaff - they were outran by the Hawks and Gaff looked to be struggling - had Hill, Rioli, Smith etc. to deal with, the fact he got 34 disposals indicates why he was an All Australian and was always rated so highly. If Gaff gets support from Jetta, the Eagles will go to the next level).

Hutchings is another inside mid they have who shows he's adequate and Masten is capable of playing an inside role (is not a player I would trust with a crucial role though)
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: powersuperkents on October 05, 2015, 03:28:38 AM
Demons fans

What do you think the possibility of a Toumpas for Aaron Young/Andrew Moore trade is?

Port are set to offer the GCS their 2015 & 16 first rounders to lock the deal and apparently Port want Toumpas as well (presumably to play alongside Wingard). Aaron Young and Andrew Moore want to leave and the Power didn't delist Butcher - do you think there's a chance that Hinkley held on to them to trade up to the Demons?

Roos wants a high profile mid and nothing says 'high profile' like Aaron Young or Andrew Moore, plus Butcher is as high profile as you get  :P
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Purple 77 on October 05, 2015, 10:35:29 AM
Quote from: powersuperkents on October 05, 2015, 03:28:38 AM
Demons fans

What do you think the possibility of a Toumpas for Aaron Young/Andrew Moore trade is?

Port are set to offer the GCS their 2015 & 16 first rounders to lock the deal and apparently Port want Toumpas as well (presumably to play alongside Wingard). Aaron Young and Andrew Moore want to leave and the Power didn't delist Butcher - do you think there's a chance that Hinkley held on to them to trade up to the Demons?

Roos wants a high profile mid and nothing says 'high profile' like Aaron Young or Andrew Moore, plus Butcher is as high profile as you get  :P


Eh, why not. I basically delisted Toumpas in my head mid-way through 2014, so getting something from nothing is a big win.


I was hearing about 3-way trade the other day along the lines of:

Young + third round to St Kilda

Pick 24 from St Kilda to Melbourne

Toumpas to Port Adelaide


Don't know too much about Young & Moore if I'm honest.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Ricochet on October 05, 2015, 10:37:23 AM
From trade radio this morning

- Yarran wants to go to Richmond and should
- Watts wants to stay at Melb but club are exploring options
' melksham deal done with Melb
- Jetta wants to go to wce but hasnt met with them yet
- Leuey will go to Essendon or Syd
- Lobbe has told Port he's open to a trade
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Pkbaldy on October 05, 2015, 10:52:07 AM
Quote from: Purple 77 on October 05, 2015, 10:35:29 AM
Quote from: powersuperkents on October 05, 2015, 03:28:38 AM
Demons fans

What do you think the possibility of a Toumpas for Aaron Young/Andrew Moore trade is?

Port are set to offer the GCS their 2015 & 16 first rounders to lock the deal and apparently Port want Toumpas as well (presumably to play alongside Wingard). Aaron Young and Andrew Moore want to leave and the Power didn't delist Butcher - do you think there's a chance that Hinkley held on to them to trade up to the Demons?

Roos wants a high profile mid and nothing says 'high profile' like Aaron Young or Andrew Moore, plus Butcher is as high profile as you get  :P


Eh, why not. I basically delisted Toumpas in my head mid-way through 2014, so getting something from nothing is a big win.


I was hearing about 3-way trade the other day along the lines of:

Young + third round to St Kilda

Pick 24 from St Kilda to Melbourne

Toumpas to Port Adelaide


Don't know too much about Young & Moore if I'm honest.

If this is true.... Then it looks like we'll probably end up using our first rounder in some way to pick up Carlilse :S
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Ricochet on October 05, 2015, 10:54:05 AM
Quote from: Ricochet on October 05, 2015, 10:37:23 AM
From trade radio this morning

- Yarran wants to go to Richmond and should
- Watts wants to stay at Melb but club are exploring options
' melksham deal done with Melb
- Jetta wants to go to wce but hasnt met with them yet
- Leuey will go to Essendon or Syd
- Lobbe has told Port he's open to a trade
- Geelong also confirm interest in ZSmith and SSelwood
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Ricochet on October 05, 2015, 12:05:27 PM
Carlton want a first round pick for Henderson...  ::)
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: nrich102 on October 05, 2015, 12:18:28 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on October 05, 2015, 12:05:27 PM
Carlton want a first round pick for Henderson...  ::)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dik_wnOE4dk (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dik_wnOE4dk)
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Ricochet on October 05, 2015, 12:37:58 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on October 05, 2015, 10:54:05 AM
Quote from: Ricochet on October 05, 2015, 10:37:23 AM
From trade radio this morning

- Yarran wants to go to Richmond and should
- Watts wants to stay at Melb but club are exploring options
' melksham deal done with Melb
- Jetta wants to go to wce but hasnt met with them yet
- Leuey will go to Essendon or Syd
- Lobbe has told Port he's open to a trade
- Geelong also confirm interest in ZSmith and SSelwood
Lobbe's manager denying this
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Nige on October 05, 2015, 12:43:01 PM
The Interesting Matthew Lobbe page on Facebook should have a field day with this stuff, plenty of content to work with!
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: powersuperkents on October 05, 2015, 12:56:54 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on October 05, 2015, 12:37:58 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on October 05, 2015, 10:54:05 AM
Quote from: Ricochet on October 05, 2015, 10:37:23 AM
From trade radio this morning

- Yarran wants to go to Richmond and should
- Watts wants to stay at Melb but club are exploring options
' melksham deal done with Melb
- Jetta wants to go to wce but hasnt met with them yet
- Leuey will go to Essendon or Syd
- Lobbe has told Port he's open to a trade
- Geelong also confirm interest in ZSmith and SSelwood
Lobbe's manager denying this
Thank flower. Don't want to lose Lobbe (he's our Vice Captain - i.e. co-VC so I was surprised to hear this)
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: powersuperkents on October 05, 2015, 01:08:16 PM
Quote from: Pkbaldy on October 05, 2015, 10:52:07 AM
Quote from: Purple 77 on October 05, 2015, 10:35:29 AM
Quote from: powersuperkents on October 05, 2015, 03:28:38 AM
Demons fans

What do you think the possibility of a Toumpas for Aaron Young/Andrew Moore trade is?

Port are set to offer the GCS their 2015 & 16 first rounders to lock the deal and apparently Port want Toumpas as well (presumably to play alongside Wingard). Aaron Young and Andrew Moore want to leave and the Power didn't delist Butcher - do you think there's a chance that Hinkley held on to them to trade up to the Demons?

Roos wants a high profile mid and nothing says 'high profile' like Aaron Young or Andrew Moore, plus Butcher is as high profile as you get  :P


Eh, why not. I basically delisted Toumpas in my head mid-way through 2014, so getting something from nothing is a big win.


I was hearing about 3-way trade the other day along the lines of:

Young + third round to St Kilda

Pick 24 from St Kilda to Melbourne

Toumpas to Port Adelaide


Don't know too much about Young & Moore if I'm honest.

If this is true.... Then it looks like we'll probably end up using our first rounder in some way to pick up Carlilse :S
Like the sound of the trade. Aaron Young isn't that bad, but he doesn't fit into the Port Adelaide gameplan. Sam Gray & Brendon Ah Chee will now to the designated back-ups in the midfield and Karl Amon has done enough to get the nod ahead of Young up forward.

He really needs a trade because he's a contested mid who just cannot compete with Boak & Wines in the crash & bash role and isn't as elusive like Robbie Gray. I prefer Port focus on Sam Gray & Ah Chee as the former may lack natural talent but is a workhorse in the contest and the latter is technically advanced.

Don't see a future for Young & Moore at Port Adelaide. I can still see what Hinkley is trying to achieve with Butcher though (hopefully a 3rd tall with Dixon & Schulz and then a 2nd tall for Dixon), whether Butcher will ever be able to accomplish it is another question - he's a SANFL player imo, it has to be psychological as well because he has the same showerhouse kicking technique in the SANFL yet he still nails the goals... If the Crows pick up Mitch Harvey (the better long-term prospect) in the rookie draft, I'll be pretty disappointed  :-\

Regarding the rumoured trade, I'm hoping a return home is what Toumpas needs to get his career back on track. So far he has been just terrible for the Demons. Hopefully he's not a draft bomb because the fact Paul Roos could not utilise him is concerning - one of the most significant changes Paul Roos has made is picking the right players in the draft, something the Demons failed to do from 2009-2013 (Toumpas at pick 4 in 2013 obviously being their last 'bad' pick - everything since Viney has been good).   
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: TomK on October 05, 2015, 01:38:02 PM
Quote from: powersuperkents on October 05, 2015, 01:08:16 PM
If the Crows pick up Mitch Harvey (the better long-term prospect) in the rookie draft, I'll be pretty disappointed  :-\
I hope we do, pretty sure he's best mates with Riley Knight as well.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Purple 77 on October 05, 2015, 01:39:05 PM
Quote from: Nige on October 05, 2015, 12:43:01 PM
The Interesting Matthew Lobbe page on Facebook should have a field day with this stuff, plenty of content to work with!

Lol, I love that page  :P
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: My Chumps on October 05, 2015, 01:39:59 PM
I'd be taking Aaron Young if I was the Dee's. He's an absolute animal and a ball magnet. Replaces Cross nicely.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: nas on October 05, 2015, 02:26:35 PM
Quote from: My Chumps on October 05, 2015, 01:39:59 PM
I'd be taking Aaron Young if I was the Dee's. He's an absolute animal and a ball magnet. Replaces Cross nicely.

Been a splinter magnet for quite a while & with that now removed reckon the animal could be unleashed.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Mat0369 on October 05, 2015, 03:48:53 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on October 05, 2015, 12:05:27 PM
Carlton want a first round pick for Henderson...  ::)

and rightfully so. There is no way Geelong will be able to fit him into their cap or have what it takes to get the deal done anyway. A few other teams will start throwing some offers our way now.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Ricochet on October 05, 2015, 03:51:47 PM
Quote from: Mat0369 on October 05, 2015, 03:48:53 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on October 05, 2015, 12:05:27 PM
Carlton want a first round pick for Henderson...  ::)

and rightfully so. There is no way Geelong will be able to fit him into their cap or have what it takes to get the deal done anyway. A few other teams will start throwing some offers our way now.
There's no way he's worth a first rounder
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Mat0369 on October 05, 2015, 03:58:05 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on October 05, 2015, 03:51:47 PM
There's no way he's worth a first rounder

He is better then Rhys Stanley and Stanley went to the Cats for pick 21. He wasn't great this year but he is not a forward, like Carlisle he is a borderline All-Australian CHB. He might not be worth a top 10 pick, but he is 100% worth a first rounder. Smart teams will play him in defense.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: JBs-Hawks on October 05, 2015, 03:59:09 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on October 05, 2015, 03:51:47 PM
Quote from: Mat0369 on October 05, 2015, 03:48:53 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on October 05, 2015, 12:05:27 PM
Carlton want a first round pick for Henderson...  ::)

and rightfully so. There is no way Geelong will be able to fit him into their cap or have what it takes to get the deal done anyway. A few other teams will start throwing some offers our way now.
There's no way he's worth a first rounder

I think you're overrating a first rounder here.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: elephants on October 05, 2015, 04:00:59 PM
Yeah I dont mind Henderson, I think he goes okay. Agree that I'd only want him in my side as a defender though.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Ricochet on October 05, 2015, 04:08:11 PM
Quote from: JBs-Hawks on October 05, 2015, 03:59:09 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on October 05, 2015, 03:51:47 PM
Quote from: Mat0369 on October 05, 2015, 03:48:53 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on October 05, 2015, 12:05:27 PM
Carlton want a first round pick for Henderson...  ::)

and rightfully so. There is no way Geelong will be able to fit him into their cap or have what it takes to get the deal done anyway. A few other teams will start throwing some offers our way now.
There's no way he's worth a first rounder

I think you're overrating a first rounder here.
Maybe. But i reckon he's only worth pick 20ish
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Holz on October 05, 2015, 04:09:07 PM
Quote from: JBs-Hawks on October 05, 2015, 03:59:09 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on October 05, 2015, 03:51:47 PM
Quote from: Mat0369 on October 05, 2015, 03:48:53 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on October 05, 2015, 12:05:27 PM
Carlton want a first round pick for Henderson...  ::)

and rightfully so. There is no way Geelong will be able to fit him into their cap or have what it takes to get the deal done anyway. A few other teams will start throwing some offers our way now.
There's no way he's worth a first rounder

I think you're overrating a first rounder here.

not at all, first rounders are vitally important its why its such a big deal when you stuff it up.

guy like fyfe darling where guys who should have gone at the end of the first round.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Spite on October 05, 2015, 04:33:04 PM
Too little Pie talk lately - Treloar for first trade done!
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Pkbaldy on October 05, 2015, 04:42:40 PM
Quote from: Spite on October 05, 2015, 04:33:04 PM
Too little Pie talk lately - Treloar for first trade done!

1st Rounder (2015) + 1st Rounder (2016)??
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Football Factory on October 05, 2015, 04:55:33 PM
Quote from: Pkbaldy on October 05, 2015, 04:42:40 PM
Quote from: Spite on October 05, 2015, 04:33:04 PM
Too little Pie talk lately - Treloar for first trade done!

1st Rounder (2015) + 1st Rounder (2016)??

What happens if they win the Granny next year with his services (yes not likely) .. wont be a very good 2016 first rounder  ;D
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: meow meow on October 05, 2015, 05:00:32 PM
Talk is that the Pies will only have to give up 2015 first rounder and 2016 second rounder. Massive win for them there!

Wouldn't mind Hendo at the Dogs. Don't think he's worth pick 11 but would give it up if we swapped second round picks with the Blues too.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Bill Manspeaker on October 05, 2015, 05:01:45 PM
Quote from: FOOTBALL FACTORY on October 05, 2015, 04:55:33 PM
Quote from: Pkbaldy on October 05, 2015, 04:42:40 PM
Quote from: Spite on October 05, 2015, 04:33:04 PM
Too little Pie talk lately - Treloar for first trade done!

1st Rounder (2015) + 1st Rounder (2016)??

What happens if they win the Granny next year with his services (yes not likely) .. wont be a very good 2016 first rounder  ;D

yep that's the risk with trading and receiving future picks. I'm a little skeptical of the Saints trading away our 2016 first rounder in case we don't improve and still have a pick in the 4-7 range. of course we'd be rapt if the opposite happens though
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Pkbaldy on October 05, 2015, 05:05:45 PM
Quote from: FOOTBALL FACTORY on October 05, 2015, 04:55:33 PM
Quote from: Pkbaldy on October 05, 2015, 04:42:40 PM
Quote from: Spite on October 05, 2015, 04:33:04 PM
Too little Pie talk lately - Treloar for first trade done!

1st Rounder (2015) + 1st Rounder (2016)??

What happens if they win the Granny next year with his services (yes not likely) .. wont be a very good 2016 first rounder  ;D

That's the risk you take with the future picks! haha Which is why if Saints use a 1st rounder for Carlilse we will take the punt and give you 2016 first rounder in hopes we finish higher.
I think originally it was 1st Rounder (2015) + Witts. But he didn't want to leave.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Mat0369 on October 05, 2015, 05:19:48 PM
Quote from: Holz on October 05, 2015, 04:09:07 PM
not at all, first rounders are vitally important its why its such a big deal when you stuff it up.

guy like fyfe darling where guys who should have gone at the end of the first round.

I think it might have been you that brought up, but teams tend to overrate draft picks. Mike Greenberg on Mike and Mike brought up this argument in regards to the NFL and made some very good points. You have some really good established players going for 4th-7th round picks because teams don't want to give up these draft picks. They brought up the Julio Jones trade as an example where it cost Atlanta a lot to get Julio in the draft but it was worth it and the Browns don't have a single player left from that trade. Guys like Asante Samuel were traded for 7th rounders. The AFL is heading down the same path.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Holz on October 05, 2015, 05:25:32 PM
Quote from: Mat0369 on October 05, 2015, 05:19:48 PM
Quoteauthor=Holz link=topic=98830.msg1680707#msg1680707 date=1444021747
not at all, first rounders are vitally important its why its such a big deal when you stuff it up.

guy like fyfe darling where guys who should have gone at the end of the first round.

I think it might have been you that brought up, but teams tend to overrate draft picks. Mike Greenberg on Mike and Mike brought up this argument in regards to the NFL and made some very good points. You have some really good established players going for 4th-7th round picks because teams don't want to give up these draft picks. They brought up the Julio Jones trade as an example where it cost Atlanta a lot to get Julio in the draft but it was worth it and the Browns don't have a single player left from that trade. Guys like Asante Samuel were traded for 7th rounders. The AFL is heading down the same path.

Hendo is meh though.

guys like Treloar Danger are worth 2 first rounders easy.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Mat0369 on October 05, 2015, 05:27:13 PM
Quote from: meow meow on October 05, 2015, 05:00:32 PM
Wouldn't mind Hendo at the Dogs. Don't think he's worth pick 11 but would give it up if we swapped second round picks with the Blues too.

Might be worth taking the risk of next years first.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Mat0369 on October 05, 2015, 05:32:51 PM
Quote from: Holz on October 05, 2015, 05:25:32 PM
Hendo is meh though.

guys like Treloar Danger are worth 2 first rounders easy.

But what are the chances that you get a better player then Hendo with pick say 15?

You have had these guys be the number 15 picks since 07

Robbie Tarrant
Mitch Brown (Geelong)
Christian Howard
Billie Smedts
Brandon Ellis
Taylor Garner

So for every Ellis there is a Howard or Brown, the draft is a crapshoot and Hendo has shown the ability to play at an AA level when in defense. If you are picking him up as a forward then forget about it, but as a key defender he is really really good.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Football Factory on October 05, 2015, 05:45:24 PM
Quote from: Mat0369 on October 05, 2015, 05:32:51 PM
Quote from: Holz on October 05, 2015, 05:25:32 PM
Hendo is meh though.

guys like Treloar Danger are worth 2 first rounders easy.

But what are the chances that you get a better player then Hendo with pick say 15?

You have had these guys be the number 15 picks since 07

Robbie Tarrant
Mitch Brown (Geelong)
Christian Howard
Billie Smedts
Brandon Ellis
Taylor Garner

So for every Ellis there is a Howard or Brown, the draft is a crapshoot and Hendo has shown the ability to play at an AA level when in defense. If you are picking him up as a forward then forget about it, but as a key defender he is really really good.

+1
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Holz on October 05, 2015, 05:59:08 PM
Quote from: FOOTBALL FACTORY on October 05, 2015, 05:45:24 PM
Quote from: Mat0369 on October 05, 2015, 05:32:51 PM
Quote from: Holz on October 05, 2015, 05:25:32 PM
Hendo is meh though.

guys like Treloar Danger are worth 2 first rounders easy.

But what are the chances that you get a better player then Hendo with pick say 15?

You have had these guys be the number 15 picks since 07

Robbie Tarrant
Mitch Brown (Geelong)
Christian Howard
Billie Smedts
Brandon Ellis
Taylor Garner

So for every Ellis there is a Howard or Brown, the draft is a crapshoot and Hendo has shown the ability to play at an AA level when in defense. If you are picking him up as a forward then forget about it, but as a key defender he is really really good.

+1

pick 13 = 14

Devon Smith
Taylor Adams
Jesse Lonergan
Aiden Core
Cameron Mcarthy
Patrick Cripps
Jake Lever
Lachy Weller

I reckon 5 easy from that bunch. granted i dont like hendo







Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: powersuperkents on October 05, 2015, 06:16:33 PM
Quote from: Mat0369 on October 05, 2015, 03:58:05 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on October 05, 2015, 03:51:47 PM
There's no way he's worth a first rounder

He is better then Rhys Stanley and Stanley went to the Cats for pick 21. He wasn't great this year but he is not a forward, like Carlisle he is a borderline All-Australian CHB. He might not be worth a top 10 pick, but he is 100% worth a first rounder. Smart teams will play him in defense.
+1

I agree, pick 10-15 is definitely a fair price for Henderson. If he went for a second rounder it would be unfair to Carlton.

I know I'm going to be criticised for this, but Carlton are being reasonable by demanding a first rounder for Yarran as well. He hasn't lived up to be the prodigy he was described of in the draft, but is a useful starting player nonetheless. He has been good for Carlton and I think people are only basing their opinions on Yarran from his performances long after he & the Carlton Football Club fell apart.

They should get first rounders for both of them imo. They are both good players at the end of the day.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: iZander on October 05, 2015, 06:21:55 PM
Quote from: powersuperkents on October 05, 2015, 06:16:33 PM
Quote from: Mat0369 on October 05, 2015, 03:58:05 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on October 05, 2015, 03:51:47 PM
There's no way he's worth a first rounder

He is better then Rhys Stanley and Stanley went to the Cats for pick 21. He wasn't great this year but he is not a forward, like Carlisle he is a borderline All-Australian CHB. He might not be worth a top 10 pick, but he is 100% worth a first rounder. Smart teams will play him in defense.
+1

I agree, pick 10-15 is definitely a fair price for Henderson. If he went for a second rounder it would be unfair to Carlton.

I know I'm going to be criticised for this, but Carlton are being reasonable by demanding a first rounder for Yarran as well. He hasn't lived up to be the prodigy he was described of in the draft, but is a useful starting player nonetheless. He has been good for Carlton and I think people are only basing their opinions on Yarran from his performances long after he & the Carlton Football Club fell apart.

They should get first rounders for both of them imo. They are both good players at the end of the day.
How are these players being said to be worth the same as Carlisle? Don't even like him that much but he is a much better pick up than either of them.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: H1bb3i2d on October 05, 2015, 07:42:54 PM
Quote from: iZander on October 05, 2015, 06:21:55 PM
Quote from: powersuperkents on October 05, 2015, 06:16:33 PM
Quote from: Mat0369 on October 05, 2015, 03:58:05 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on October 05, 2015, 03:51:47 PM
There's no way he's worth a first rounder

He is better then Rhys Stanley and Stanley went to the Cats for pick 21. He wasn't great this year but he is not a forward, like Carlisle he is a borderline All-Australian CHB. He might not be worth a top 10 pick, but he is 100% worth a first rounder. Smart teams will play him in defense.
+1

I agree, pick 10-15 is definitely a fair price for Henderson. If he went for a second rounder it would be unfair to Carlton.

I know I'm going to be criticised for this, but Carlton are being reasonable by demanding a first rounder for Yarran as well. He hasn't lived up to be the prodigy he was described of in the draft, but is a useful starting player nonetheless. He has been good for Carlton and I think people are only basing their opinions on Yarran from his performances long after he & the Carlton Football Club fell apart.

They should get first rounders for both of them imo. They are both good players at the end of the day.
How are these players being said to be worth the same as Carlisle? Don't even like him that much but he is a much better pick up than either of them.

If Carlisle was in the draft, how many clubs would pass up (hypothetically) on a young, ready to go CHB with AA potential? Wouldn't make it past 10. Pick 5-10 is IMO a good deal, I agree at people over rating draft picks. We often compare pick X's worth with the stars taken there, less so the spuds that didnt make it.

Carlisle has proven he has the game at AFL level, and similar to Yarran his last couple of years have clearly been held back.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: powersuperkents on October 05, 2015, 10:04:14 PM
Quote from: H1bb3i2d on October 05, 2015, 07:42:54 PM
Quote from: iZander on October 05, 2015, 06:21:55 PM
Quote from: powersuperkents on October 05, 2015, 06:16:33 PM
Quote from: Mat0369 on October 05, 2015, 03:58:05 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on October 05, 2015, 03:51:47 PM
There's no way he's worth a first rounder

He is better then Rhys Stanley and Stanley went to the Cats for pick 21. He wasn't great this year but he is not a forward, like Carlisle he is a borderline All-Australian CHB. He might not be worth a top 10 pick, but he is 100% worth a first rounder. Smart teams will play him in defense.
+1

I agree, pick 10-15 is definitely a fair price for Henderson. If he went for a second rounder it would be unfair to Carlton.

I know I'm going to be criticised for this, but Carlton are being reasonable by demanding a first rounder for Yarran as well. He hasn't lived up to be the prodigy he was described of in the draft, but is a useful starting player nonetheless. He has been good for Carlton and I think people are only basing their opinions on Yarran from his performances long after he & the Carlton Football Club fell apart.

They should get first rounders for both of them imo. They are both good players at the end of the day.
How are these players being said to be worth the same as Carlisle? Don't even like him that much but he is a much better pick up than either of them.

If Carlisle was in the draft, how many clubs would pass up (hypothetically) on a young, ready to go CHB with AA potential? Wouldn't make it past 10. Pick 5-10 is IMO a good deal, I agree at people over rating draft picks. We often compare pick X's worth with the stars taken there, less so the spuds that didnt make it.

Carlisle has proven he has the game at AFL level, and similar to Yarran his last couple of years have clearly been held back.
I honestly think Carlisle is now worth pick 5-10. Hird & Bomber held him back by playing him up forward (due to a lack of tall forwards at the time) and he intends to play in the back line. I hope everyone can remember how talented he was in his backline role in the first half of 2013... With more experience and physical development he could be an AA defender in the near future.

Regarding Hendo & Yarran, I want to distinguish between a first round pick and a top 10 pick. A top ten pick is always a first round pick, however a first round pick isn't always a top 10 pick. Hendo & Yarran are worth picks 11-20. Say what you will about Carlisle, but the Saints want him, Essendon want a 1st round pick, the Saints only have pick 5, therefore if they are not willing to part with it (which both the club and the fans are more than willing to do) another club will be more than willing to offer their first rounder (The Bulldogs are an obvious contender).

St Kilda fans are not complaining about the trade as it is the best case scenario for both the Saints and the Bombers.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: meow meow on October 05, 2015, 10:07:07 PM
I'd happily give up pick 11 and Hrovat for Carlisle. AA quality KPD in his absolute prime.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: powersuperkents on October 05, 2015, 10:10:59 PM
Quote from: meow meow on October 05, 2015, 10:07:07 PM
I'd happily give up pick 11 and Hrovat for Carlisle. AA quality KPD in his absolute prime.
He's exactly what both the Saints & the Bulldogs need - any team could use him tbh. He's most likely going for a bargain price because he's on bad terms with the Bombers - after the whole ASADA drama, a lot of their players are. 

e.g. despite a disappointing season, I think Port snatched up Ryder for a bargain price - purely because he had considered suing the Bombers. The fact we didn't have to give up a player was remarkable. Hinkley has a policy on not trading players unless they seek trades.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Pkbaldy on October 05, 2015, 10:11:23 PM
Quote from: meow meow on October 05, 2015, 10:07:07 PM
I'd happily give up pick 11 and Hrovat for Carlisle. AA quality KPD in his absolute prime.

Agreed. Would be best for both clubs.

Cant see Saints offering Pick 5 after Richo has come out and said how well he rates the top 5 prospects of this draft (Exlcudes Schache).

Best I can see us offering is 2nd rounder + player. Or take the gamble in offering 1st of next year. And hope we dont finish bottom 4.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: powersuperkents on October 05, 2015, 10:14:40 PM
Quote from: Pkbaldy on October 05, 2015, 10:11:23 PM
Quote from: meow meow on October 05, 2015, 10:07:07 PM
I'd happily give up pick 11 and Hrovat for Carlisle. AA quality KPD in his absolute prime.

Agreed. Would be best for both clubs.

Cant see Saints offering Pick 5 after Richo has come out and said how well he rates the top 5 prospects of this draft (Exlcudes Schache).

Best I can see us offering is 2nd rounder + player. Or take the gamble in offering 1st of next year. And hope we dont finish bottom 4.
That is risky, I could see the Bulldogs undercutting the Saints if they do that.

Also, it could jeopardize the Freeman trade. I honestly think out 1st + 2nd rounder (and maybe something extra), in Carlisle & Freeman would be a fantastic outcome for the Saints
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Pkbaldy on October 05, 2015, 10:17:25 PM
Quote from: powersuperkents on October 05, 2015, 10:14:40 PM
Quote from: Pkbaldy on October 05, 2015, 10:11:23 PM
Quote from: meow meow on October 05, 2015, 10:07:07 PM
I'd happily give up pick 11 and Hrovat for Carlisle. AA quality KPD in his absolute prime.

Agreed. Would be best for both clubs.

Cant see Saints offering Pick 5 after Richo has come out and said how well he rates the top 5 prospects of this draft (Exlcudes Schache).

Best I can see us offering is 2nd rounder + player. Or take the gamble in offering 1st of next year. And hope we dont finish bottom 4.
That is risky, I could see the Bulldogs undercutting the Saints if they do that.

Also, it could jeopardize the Freeman trade. I honestly think out 1st + 2nd rounder (and maybe something extra), in Carlisle & Freeman would be a fantastic outcome for the Saints

I saw something last week saying 2nd rounder (2016) for Freeman will get the job done. Which is why im hopeful that we are sticking to our guns and offering this years for Carlisle.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: iZander on October 05, 2015, 10:19:32 PM
Quote from: Pkbaldy on October 05, 2015, 10:17:25 PM
Quote from: powersuperkents on October 05, 2015, 10:14:40 PM
Quote from: Pkbaldy on October 05, 2015, 10:11:23 PM
Quote from: meow meow on October 05, 2015, 10:07:07 PM
I'd happily give up pick 11 and Hrovat for Carlisle. AA quality KPD in his absolute prime.

Agreed. Would be best for both clubs.

Cant see Saints offering Pick 5 after Richo has come out and said how well he rates the top 5 prospects of this draft (Exlcudes Schache).

Best I can see us offering is 2nd rounder + player. Or take the gamble in offering 1st of next year. And hope we dont finish bottom 4.
That is risky, I could see the Bulldogs undercutting the Saints if they do that.

Also, it could jeopardize the Freeman trade. I honestly think out 1st + 2nd rounder (and maybe something extra), in Carlisle & Freeman would be a fantastic outcome for the Saints

I saw something last week saying 2nd rounder (2016) for Freeman will get the job done. Which is why im hopeful that we are sticking to our guns and offering this years for Carlisle.
Offering a second rounder for carlisle is ridiculous
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: powersuperkents on October 05, 2015, 10:21:34 PM
Quote from: iZander on October 05, 2015, 10:19:32 PM
Quote from: Pkbaldy on October 05, 2015, 10:17:25 PM
Quote from: powersuperkents on October 05, 2015, 10:14:40 PM
Quote from: Pkbaldy on October 05, 2015, 10:11:23 PM
Quote from: meow meow on October 05, 2015, 10:07:07 PM
I'd happily give up pick 11 and Hrovat for Carlisle. AA quality KPD in his absolute prime.

Agreed. Would be best for both clubs.

Cant see Saints offering Pick 5 after Richo has come out and said how well he rates the top 5 prospects of this draft (Exlcudes Schache).

Best I can see us offering is 2nd rounder + player. Or take the gamble in offering 1st of next year. And hope we dont finish bottom 4.
That is risky, I could see the Bulldogs undercutting the Saints if they do that.

Also, it could jeopardize the Freeman trade. I honestly think out 1st + 2nd rounder (and maybe something extra), in Carlisle & Freeman would be a fantastic outcome for the Saints

I saw something last week saying 2nd rounder (2016) for Freeman will get the job done. Which is why im hopeful that we are sticking to our guns and offering this years for Carlisle.
Offering a second rounder for carlisle is ridiculous
+1

I think the Bulldogs will just undercut them (might throw in Talia as well)
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Pkbaldy on October 05, 2015, 10:36:35 PM
Quote from: iZander on October 05, 2015, 10:19:32 PM
Quote from: Pkbaldy on October 05, 2015, 10:17:25 PM
Quote from: powersuperkents on October 05, 2015, 10:14:40 PM
Quote from: Pkbaldy on October 05, 2015, 10:11:23 PM
Quote from: meow meow on October 05, 2015, 10:07:07 PM
I'd happily give up pick 11 and Hrovat for Carlisle. AA quality KPD in his absolute prime.

Agreed. Would be best for both clubs.

Cant see Saints offering Pick 5 after Richo has come out and said how well he rates the top 5 prospects of this draft (Exlcudes Schache).

Best I can see us offering is 2nd rounder + player. Or take the gamble in offering 1st of next year. And hope we dont finish bottom 4.
That is risky, I could see the Bulldogs undercutting the Saints if they do that.

Also, it could jeopardize the Freeman trade. I honestly think out 1st + 2nd rounder (and maybe something extra), in Carlisle & Freeman would be a fantastic outcome for the Saints

I saw something last week saying 2nd rounder (2016) for Freeman will get the job done. Which is why im hopeful that we are sticking to our guns and offering this years for Carlisle.
Offering a second rounder for carlisle is ridiculous

I actually said 2nd rounder + player. I myself, couldn't give a shower if we get him or not. He's not worth pick 5, YES he has AA potential, but he's a complete sook and his attitude is atrocious in some circumstances. 
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: H1bb3i2d on October 05, 2015, 11:53:27 PM
Quote from: powersuperkents on October 05, 2015, 10:10:59 PM
Quote from: meow meow on October 05, 2015, 10:07:07 PM
I'd happily give up pick 11 and Hrovat for Carlisle. AA quality KPD in his absolute prime.
He's exactly what both the Saints & the Bulldogs need - any team could use him tbh. He's most likely going for a bargain price because he's on bad terms with the Bombers - after the whole ASADA drama, a lot of their players are. 

e.g. despite a disappointing season, I think Port snatched up Ryder for a bargain price - purely because he had considered suing the Bombers. The fact we didn't have to give up a player was remarkable. Hinkley has a policy on not trading players unless they seek trades.

RE Port (albeit off topic), can't complain from an Essendon perspective. We got your first and second pick, and considering you wouldnt trade a player who didnt want to go and there were no future picks to trade, that was the best possible outcome. It just so happened you came off a great year. Let's hope Langford really comes on :)

RE Carlisle: if he nominates St Kilda, I don't think the Dogs can "outbid" for him. He'll only sign a contract at the club he wishes.

Anyway, if Bombers give Carlisle and pick 23 for pick 5, and Saints trade that for Freeman, there's 2 future potential guns for your first pick. A really good result for your club IMHO.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: powersuperkents on October 06, 2015, 12:24:21 AM
Quote from: H1bb3i2d on October 05, 2015, 11:53:27 PM
Quote from: powersuperkents on October 05, 2015, 10:10:59 PM
Quote from: meow meow on October 05, 2015, 10:07:07 PM
I'd happily give up pick 11 and Hrovat for Carlisle. AA quality KPD in his absolute prime.
He's exactly what both the Saints & the Bulldogs need - any team could use him tbh. He's most likely going for a bargain price because he's on bad terms with the Bombers - after the whole ASADA drama, a lot of their players are. 

e.g. despite a disappointing season, I think Port snatched up Ryder for a bargain price - purely because he had considered suing the Bombers. The fact we didn't have to give up a player was remarkable. Hinkley has a policy on not trading players unless they seek trades.

RE Port (albeit off topic), can't complain from an Essendon perspective. We got your first and second pick, and considering you wouldnt trade a player who didnt want to go and there were no future picks to trade, that was the best possible outcome. It just so happened you came off a great year. Let's hope Langford really comes on :)

RE Carlisle: if he nominates St Kilda, I don't think the Dogs can "outbid" for him. He'll only sign a contract at the club he wishes.

Anyway, if Bombers give Carlisle and pick 23 for pick 5, and Saints trade that for Freeman, there's 2 future potential guns for your first pick. A really good result for your club IMHO.
+ 1

I think it worked out well for the Bombers. Laverde (rightfully a top 5 pick) and Langford (between 12-20) were both sliders (the former being a huge surprise - I remember being in shock over the first 18 or so picks when his name was still yet to be called - I tipped him for pick 5 at Collingwood or 6-7 at GWS). It was a talented draft as well - the last few years have been.

Yeah looking at the Carlisle trade that way it seems like it would work out for all parties. I'm hoping the Saints can recruit both Carlisle & Freeman - I've invested heavily in St Kilda's youth in fantasy football and I think with the additions the club with perform better and therefore the players will also :P
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Levi434 on October 06, 2015, 01:02:05 AM
Changing subject a little bit, but what do you guys think Gold Coast should want for Harley Bennell?
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Big Mac on October 06, 2015, 09:00:15 AM
Quote from: Levi434 on October 06, 2015, 01:02:05 AM
Changing subject a little bit, but what do you guys think Gold Coast should want for Harley Bennell?

Given his issues, pick 15-ish
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: meow meow on October 06, 2015, 09:21:09 AM
Bennell didn't turn up to the medical at Richmond. Needless to say they were not impressed and ruled him out immediately. Is this guy for real?

Carlisle wouldn't speak to the Dogs unless we told him what we were going to offer him in terms of $$$ first. Is this guy for real?

Bugg likely headed to Melbourne.

Melb (Paul Roos) still chasing Luke Parker hard.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Money Shot on October 06, 2015, 10:44:46 AM
Apparently Carlton don't intend on trading Menzel although there were rumours on him going back to his home state! Think that is good coz I really rate him in that small forward role ...

Bell to Brisbane is in discussion ...

Yarran/Henderson are both going for first round picks probably 12-18 mark I would say ...

Carlton doing everything possible for Carslile ...

Also we are looking into a few GWS boys (Plowman, Lamb, Sumner, Phillips) don't know how we would get a trade done there and don't know much about them!

That's all that's happening in the Carlton talks!

Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: RaisyDaisy on October 06, 2015, 11:30:50 AM
Quote from: Levi434 on October 06, 2015, 01:02:05 AM
Changing subject a little bit, but what do you guys think Gold Coast should want for Harley Bennell?

This doesn't help

Quote from: meow meow on October 06, 2015, 09:21:09 AM
Bennell didn't turn up to the medical at Richmond. Needless to say they were not impressed and ruled him out immediately. Is this guy for real?

Seriously Meow? He didn't turn up?

From what I've read, it looks like Freo are the only team left that might be interested in him

Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: silloc on October 06, 2015, 11:34:30 AM
I predict bennell will end up nearly clubless, freo will pull out. Rightly so, it'll be the worst for him going to his old stomping grounds. Can't imagine his old high school mates will be straight edge. He will come crawling back to a Melbourne club which will be the only place he can get himself right.

Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Purple 77 on October 06, 2015, 12:14:27 PM
I think I now understand what Sydney fans are feeling when hearing about Melbourne going hard after Luke Parker...

Apparently Richmond have asked about Dom Tyson  ::)

It's so not gonna happen, that it's not even funny....

^^ that's when I realised that's what Sydney are probably like with Luke Parker  :-X
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Holz on October 06, 2015, 12:40:09 PM
Quote from: Purple 77 on October 06, 2015, 12:14:27 PM
I think I now understand what Sydney fans are feeling when hearing about Melbourne going hard after Luke Parker...

Apparently Richmond have asked about Dom Tyson  ::)

It's so not gonna happen, that it's not even funny....

^^ that's when I realised that's what Sydney are probably like with Luke Parker  :-X

Parker is better then Dom Tyson though.

would you give up Tyson to get Parker?
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Nige on October 06, 2015, 12:41:02 PM
Oh, well that's interesting. We did chase Trengove last year and now we've asked about Tyson.

I like Dom Tyson, but I thought we'd aim higher...
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Ricochet on October 06, 2015, 12:42:30 PM
Quote from: Holz on October 06, 2015, 12:40:09 PM
Quote from: Purple 77 on October 06, 2015, 12:14:27 PM
I think I now understand what Sydney fans are feeling when hearing about Melbourne going hard after Luke Parker...

Apparently Richmond have asked about Dom Tyson  ::)

It's so not gonna happen, that it's not even funny....

^^ that's when I realised that's what Sydney are probably like with Luke Parker  :-X

Parker is better then Dom Tyson though.

would you give up Tyson to get Parker?
in a heartbeat
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Football Factory on October 06, 2015, 01:06:42 PM
Sydney seem to have a lot of really good mids .. its got to be getting hard to fit all of these guys into the salary cap ?
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: RaisyDaisy on October 06, 2015, 01:07:36 PM
Is there a retirement and delisting thread?

Hale and Lake retired
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Ricochet on October 06, 2015, 01:10:50 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on October 06, 2015, 01:07:36 PM
Is there a retirement and delisting thread?

Hale and Lake retired

http://www.afl.com.au/news/features/retirements-and-delistings
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: RaisyDaisy on October 06, 2015, 01:12:09 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on October 06, 2015, 01:10:50 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on October 06, 2015, 01:07:36 PM
Is there a retirement and delisting thread?

Hale and Lake retired

http://www.afl.com.au/news/features/retirements-and-delistings

I meant here on FF :P

Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: elephants on October 06, 2015, 01:13:20 PM
I rate Tyson higher than most, but I also rate Parker insanely highly, way more than Tyson :p
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: meow meow on October 06, 2015, 01:17:53 PM
Apparently GWS thinking that Wilbur is the only ruckman that they need while Mummy sits in rehab.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Toga on October 06, 2015, 01:27:43 PM
Quote from: Money Shot on October 06, 2015, 10:44:46 AM
Yarran/Henderson are both going for first round picks probably 12-18 mark I would say ...

Still don't see Yarran for a first rounder happening, think a second rounder is on the money.

Quote from: Purple 77 on October 06, 2015, 12:14:27 PM
Apparently Richmond have asked about Dom Tyson  ::)

Interesting, where did you hear that?! I remember Richmond went after him a couple of years ago when he was leaving GWS (being a Richmond supporter growing up) but he decided to go with the Dees. I rate him so would be pretty happy if we could snag him off ya, and if you get Parker then it's a win/win for everyone except the Swans ;)
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Purple 77 on October 06, 2015, 01:32:34 PM
Quote from: Toga on October 06, 2015, 01:27:43 PM
Quote from: Money Shot on October 06, 2015, 10:44:46 AM
Yarran/Henderson are both going for first round picks probably 12-18 mark I would say ...

Still don't see Yarran for a first rounder happening, think a second rounder is on the money.

Quote from: Purple 77 on October 06, 2015, 12:14:27 PM
Apparently Richmond have asked about Dom Tyson  ::)

Interesting, where did you hear that?! I remember Richmond went after him a couple of years ago when he was leaving GWS (being a Richmond supporter growing up) but he decided to go with the Dees. I rate him so would be pretty happy if we could snag him off ya, and if you get Parker then it's a win/win for everyone except the Swans ;)

Demonland shot me some links, so it's published somewhere... mentioned here (http://www.pressreader.com/australia/herald-sun/20151006/282969628887983/TextView) but really, he is contracted for two more years. He isn't going anywhere.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Toga on October 06, 2015, 01:52:24 PM
Yeah I find it pretty unlikely that kind of a move would happen, especially after he was given the choice between Melbourne and Richmond only two years ago.

But at least its good to see Richmond trying to improve that midfield, hopefully Blair and co. can work something out and get someone across to Tigerland.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Ringo on October 06, 2015, 02:57:25 PM
Could the South Australian Clubs re-enter the race for Jack Redden?  He has proposed to his South Australian girl friend so will this have some factor in final decision.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Southstorm on October 06, 2015, 03:06:30 PM
Quote from: meow meow on October 06, 2015, 09:21:09 AM
Bennell didn't turn up to the medical at Richmond. Needless to say they were not impressed and ruled him out immediately. Is this guy for real?

Carlisle wouldn't speak to the Dogs unless we told him what we were going to offer him in terms of $$$ first. Is this guy for real?

Bugg likely headed to Melbourne.

Melb (Paul Roos) still chasing Luke Parker hard.
To be fair, if I had two job offers on the table for $600k per year plus then I wouldn't be too keen to go to another one unless I knew it was going to be worth my time. I guess Carlisle figures that WB don't have as much in the salary cap as saints and the blues.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Southstorm on October 06, 2015, 03:10:26 PM
Quote from: meow meow on October 05, 2015, 10:07:07 PM
I'd happily give up pick 11 and Hrovat for Carlisle. AA quality KPD in his absolute prime.
Can we have somebody other than Hrovat? We have enough manlets on our list.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: RaisyDaisy on October 06, 2015, 04:54:20 PM
SYDNEY Swans midfielder Luke Parker is set to sign a contract extension before Christmas, his manager says.

Speaking to NAB AFL Trade Radio, Ned Guy said there was interest from other clubs but Parker was happy to stay with the Swans.

Parker, who turns 23 later this month, won the club's best-and-fairest last year when the Swans made the Grand Final and in contracted until the end of next season.

"He's going to have a good long think about it, but I think all signs point to Luke committing long-term with the Swans," Guy said.

Melbourne had not offered a deal to Parker, but after rumours emerged that the Demons had tabled a big contract they made contact with Guy.

"Once that rumour went around last week I don't think there was a club I didn't hear from.

"I spoke to (Melbourne list manager) Todd (Viney) once the rumour came out and I think he said, 'Look, if we're going to be rumoured speaking to him, we may as well'."

Geelong forward Josh Walker could be on the move, with Carlton having been touted as a suitor.

Mitch Clark and Rhys Stanley were picked up last year and the Cats are looking to pick up Lachie Henderson from the Blues in this trade period.

"Clearly Geelong has brought in some good tall talent over the last 12 months and look to be bringing in more this year," Guy said.

"We've probably just got to sit down and work out what this means for Josh."

Guy said Walker could be part of a trade to bring Henderson to Geelong.

"Potentially it could, if Josh says he'd like to look elsewhere, but at this point we haven't got to that stage."
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: SydneyRox on October 06, 2015, 05:09:26 PM
Was never going to happen. Contracted and not even a restricted free agent, Melb would never had given Sydney enough.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: powersuperkents on October 06, 2015, 05:58:54 PM
Quote from: Ringo on October 06, 2015, 02:57:25 PM
Could the South Australian Clubs re-enter the race for Jack Redden?  He has proposed to his South Australian girl friend so will this have some factor in final decision.
The Crows could try.

The last thing Port would want is another contested mid and more salary cap concerns
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Big Mac on October 06, 2015, 06:36:24 PM
Quote from: Nige on October 06, 2015, 12:41:02 PM
Oh, well that's interesting. We did chase Trengove last year and now we've asked about Tyson.

I like Dom Tyson, but I thought we'd aim higher...

Yep Dom Tyson is terrible

Maybe go for some more established names like Taylor Hunt

:P
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Mat0369 on October 06, 2015, 06:48:27 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on October 06, 2015, 04:54:20 PM
Geelong forward Josh Walker could be on the move, with Carlton having been touted as a suitor.

Mitch Clark and Rhys Stanley were picked up last year and the Cats are looking to pick up Lachie Henderson from the Blues in this trade period.

"Clearly Geelong has brought in some good tall talent over the last 12 months and look to be bringing in more this year," Guy said.

"We've probably just got to sit down and work out what this means for Josh."

Guy said Walker could be part of a trade to bring Henderson to Geelong.

Ewwwwwww
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Big Mac on October 06, 2015, 07:02:55 PM
Quote from: Mat0369 on October 06, 2015, 06:48:27 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on October 06, 2015, 04:54:20 PM
Geelong forward Josh Walker could be on the move, with Carlton having been touted as a suitor.

Mitch Clark and Rhys Stanley were picked up last year and the Cats are looking to pick up Lachie Henderson from the Blues in this trade period.

"Clearly Geelong has brought in some good tall talent over the last 12 months and look to be bringing in more this year," Guy said.

"We've probably just got to sit down and work out what this means for Josh."

Guy said Walker could be part of a trade to bring Henderson to Geelong.

Ewwwwwww

I don't think he's that bad :P

Can take a mark and is still only 22

You guys do already have Casboult though, so I don't think he would be a good fit at Carlton
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Nige on October 06, 2015, 07:07:08 PM
Quote from: Big  Mac on October 06, 2015, 06:36:24 PM
Quote from: Nige on October 06, 2015, 12:41:02 PM
Oh, well that's interesting. We did chase Trengove last year and now we've asked about Tyson.

I like Dom Tyson, but I thought we'd aim higher...

Yep Dom Tyson is terrible

Maybe go for some more established names like Taylor Hunt

:P
Haha, you know what I meant.  :P

Toga said it well though.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Pkbaldy on October 06, 2015, 08:27:03 PM
Quote from: Big  Mac on October 06, 2015, 07:02:55 PM
Quote from: Mat0369 on October 06, 2015, 06:48:27 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on October 06, 2015, 04:54:20 PM
Geelong forward Josh Walker could be on the move, with Carlton having been touted as a suitor.

Mitch Clark and Rhys Stanley were picked up last year and the Cats are looking to pick up Lachie Henderson from the Blues in this trade period.

"Clearly Geelong has brought in some good tall talent over the last 12 months and look to be bringing in more this year," Guy said.

"We've probably just got to sit down and work out what this means for Josh."

Guy said Walker could be part of a trade to bring Henderson to Geelong.

Ewwwwwww

I don't think he's that bad :P

Can take a mark and is still only 22

You guys do already have Casboult though, so I don't think he would be a good fit at Carlton

With the receding hairline of a 60 year old...
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: T Dog on October 06, 2015, 08:28:57 PM
Quote from: Pkbaldy on October 06, 2015, 08:27:03 PM
Quote from: Big  Mac on October 06, 2015, 07:02:55 PM
Quote from: Mat0369 on October 06, 2015, 06:48:27 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on October 06, 2015, 04:54:20 PM
Geelong forward Josh Walker could be on the move, with Carlton having been touted as a suitor.

Mitch Clark and Rhys Stanley were picked up last year and the Cats are looking to pick up Lachie Henderson from the Blues in this trade period.

"Clearly Geelong has brought in some good tall talent over the last 12 months and look to be bringing in more this year," Guy said.

"We've probably just got to sit down and work out what this means for Josh."

Guy said Walker could be part of a trade to bring Henderson to Geelong.

Ewwwwwww

I don't think he's that bad :P

Can take a mark and is still only 22

You guys do already have Casboult though, so I don't think he would be a good fit at Carlton

With the receding hairline of a 60 year old...

Me too...but I don't like to talk about it  ;D
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: TomK on October 06, 2015, 08:51:45 PM
To continue the discussion from the other day, Hampton to Crows for first trade done.

Quote from: powersuperkents on October 06, 2015, 05:58:54 PM
Quote from: Ringo on October 06, 2015, 02:57:25 PM
Could the South Australian Clubs re-enter the race for Jack Redden?  He has proposed to his South Australian girl friend so will this have some factor in final decision.
The Crows could try.
I really hope we do, pick 13 would do it.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: powersuperkents on October 06, 2015, 09:16:05 PM
Quote from: TomK on October 06, 2015, 08:51:45 PM
To continue the discussion from the other day, Hampton to Crows for first trade done.

Quote from: powersuperkents on October 06, 2015, 05:58:54 PM
Quote from: Ringo on October 06, 2015, 02:57:25 PM
Could the South Australian Clubs re-enter the race for Jack Redden?  He has proposed to his South Australian girl friend so will this have some factor in final decision.
The Crows could try.
I really hope we do, pick 13 would do it.
I honestly see the Lions asking for Jenkins if this were to occur (not as good as Tex or Lynch, but physically what Brisbane are looking for)
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: TomK on October 06, 2015, 09:17:49 PM
Quote from: powersuperkents on October 06, 2015, 09:16:05 PM
Quote from: TomK on October 06, 2015, 08:51:45 PM
To continue the discussion from the other day, Hampton to Crows for first trade done.

Quote from: powersuperkents on October 06, 2015, 05:58:54 PM
Quote from: Ringo on October 06, 2015, 02:57:25 PM
Could the South Australian Clubs re-enter the race for Jack Redden?  He has proposed to his South Australian girl friend so will this have some factor in final decision.
The Crows could try.
I really hope we do, pick 13 would do it.
I honestly see the Lions asking for Jenkins if this were to occur (not as good as Tex or Lynch, but physically what Brisbane are looking for)
Yeah, they would probably ask but It'd be a pretty quick no
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: powersuperkents on October 06, 2015, 09:19:01 PM
Quote from: Mat0369 on October 06, 2015, 06:48:27 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on October 06, 2015, 04:54:20 PM
Geelong forward Josh Walker could be on the move, with Carlton having been touted as a suitor.

Mitch Clark and Rhys Stanley were picked up last year and the Cats are looking to pick up Lachie Henderson from the Blues in this trade period.

"Clearly Geelong has brought in some good tall talent over the last 12 months and look to be bringing in more this year," Guy said.

"We've probably just got to sit down and work out what this means for Josh."

Guy said Walker could be part of a trade to bring Henderson to Geelong.

Ewwwwwww
+1

I thought Carlton were trying to avoid getting burnt this off-season...

Don't see it happening without Geelong parting with it's first rounder (or unless they can pick up another clubs early second rounder and package it with Spud Walker - Walker would honestly be a step backwards for Carlton unless their goal was to collect all the Walkers in the AFL).
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: powersuperkents on October 06, 2015, 09:22:19 PM
Quote from: TomK on October 06, 2015, 09:17:49 PM
Quote from: powersuperkents on October 06, 2015, 09:16:05 PM
Quote from: TomK on October 06, 2015, 08:51:45 PM
To continue the discussion from the other day, Hampton to Crows for first trade done.

Quote from: powersuperkents on October 06, 2015, 05:58:54 PM
Quote from: Ringo on October 06, 2015, 02:57:25 PM
Could the South Australian Clubs re-enter the race for Jack Redden?  He has proposed to his South Australian girl friend so will this have some factor in final decision.
The Crows could try.
I really hope we do, pick 13 would do it.
I honestly see the Lions asking for Jenkins if this were to occur (not as good as Tex or Lynch, but physically what Brisbane are looking for)
Yeah, they would probably ask but It'd be a pretty quick no
Really?

The Crows have struggled since Tippett left and Jenkins has filled that void - so I see what you mean. However, Redden will be able to instantly fill the void left by Dangerfield (will fill the position well - but in no way comparable to Dangerfield premier ability). I agree, though that the Crows would not be willing to part with Jenkins (he plays an important role for the club).

Redden was a pick in the mid-20's so pick 13 is not far-fetched. However, the Lions have a tendency to overrate their players

This is a situation where keeping Spud McKernan would have been helpful  :P
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Ringo on October 06, 2015, 09:39:48 PM
Quote from: powersuperkents on October 06, 2015, 09:22:19 PM
Quote from: TomK on October 06, 2015, 09:17:49 PM
Quote from: powersuperkents on October 06, 2015, 09:16:05 PM
Quote from: TomK on October 06, 2015, 08:51:45 PM
To continue the discussion from the other day, Hampton to Crows for first trade done.

Quote from: powersuperkents on October 06, 2015, 05:58:54 PM
Quote from: Ringo on October 06, 2015, 02:57:25 PM
Could the South Australian Clubs re-enter the race for Jack Redden?  He has proposed to his South Australian girl friend so will this have some factor in final decision.
The Crows could try.
I really hope we do, pick 13 would do it.
I honestly see the Lions asking for Jenkins if this were to occur (not as good as Tex or Lynch, but physically what Brisbane are looking for)
Yeah, they would probably ask but It'd be a pretty quick no
Really?

The Crows have struggled since Tippett left and Jenkins has filled that void - so I see what you mean. However, Redden will be able to instantly fill the void left by Dangerfield (will fill the position well - but in no way comparable to Dangerfield premier ability). I agree, though that the Crows would not be willing to part with Jenkins (he plays an important role for the club).

Redden was a pick in the mid-20's so pick 13 is not far-fetched. However, the Lions have a tendency to overrate their players

This is a situation where keeping Spud McKernan would have been helpful  :P
I would take Pick 13 for Reddo.  we will need some early picks to keep Keays and Hipwood under academy bidding and 13 would be perfect.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: TomK on October 06, 2015, 09:46:44 PM
Quote from: powersuperkents on October 06, 2015, 09:22:19 PM
Quote from: TomK on October 06, 2015, 09:17:49 PM
Quote from: powersuperkents on October 06, 2015, 09:16:05 PM
Quote from: TomK on October 06, 2015, 08:51:45 PM
To continue the discussion from the other day, Hampton to Crows for first trade done.

Quote from: powersuperkents on October 06, 2015, 05:58:54 PM
Quote from: Ringo on October 06, 2015, 02:57:25 PM
Could the South Australian Clubs re-enter the race for Jack Redden?  He has proposed to his South Australian girl friend so will this have some factor in final decision.
The Crows could try.
I really hope we do, pick 13 would do it.
I honestly see the Lions asking for Jenkins if this were to occur (not as good as Tex or Lynch, but physically what Brisbane are looking for)
Yeah, they would probably ask but It'd be a pretty quick no
Really?

The Crows have struggled since Tippett left and Jenkins has filled that void - so I see what you mean. However, Redden will be able to instantly fill the void left by Dangerfield (will fill the position well - but in no way comparable to Dangerfield premier ability). I agree, though that the Crows would not be willing to part with Jenkins (he plays an important role for the club).

Redden was a pick in the mid-20's so pick 13 is not far-fetched. However, the Lions have a tendency to overrate their players

This is a situation where keeping Spud McKernan would have been helpful  :P
C'mon, no situation where McKernan is involved is useful ;)
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: powersuperkents on October 06, 2015, 09:50:44 PM
Quote from: Ringo on October 06, 2015, 09:39:48 PM
Quote from: powersuperkents on October 06, 2015, 09:22:19 PM
Quote from: TomK on October 06, 2015, 09:17:49 PM
Quote from: powersuperkents on October 06, 2015, 09:16:05 PM
Quote from: TomK on October 06, 2015, 08:51:45 PM
To continue the discussion from the other day, Hampton to Crows for first trade done.

Quote from: powersuperkents on October 06, 2015, 05:58:54 PM
Quote from: Ringo on October 06, 2015, 02:57:25 PM
Could the South Australian Clubs re-enter the race for Jack Redden?  He has proposed to his South Australian girl friend so will this have some factor in final decision.
The Crows could try.
I really hope we do, pick 13 would do it.
I honestly see the Lions asking for Jenkins if this were to occur (not as good as Tex or Lynch, but physically what Brisbane are looking for)
Yeah, they would probably ask but It'd be a pretty quick no
Really?

The Crows have struggled since Tippett left and Jenkins has filled that void - so I see what you mean. However, Redden will be able to instantly fill the void left by Dangerfield (will fill the position well - but in no way comparable to Dangerfield premier ability). I agree, though that the Crows would not be willing to part with Jenkins (he plays an important role for the club).

Redden was a pick in the mid-20's so pick 13 is not far-fetched. However, the Lions have a tendency to overrate their players

This is a situation where keeping Spud McKernan would have been helpful  :P
I would take Pick 13 for Reddo.  we will need some early picks to keep Keays and Hipwood under academy bidding and 13 would be perfect.
I did not consider this

I think Redden may most likely go to the Crows as West Coast would not be able to offer anything better unless they provided Sinclair or Lycett (Sydney likely to get one and I doubt West Coast is willing to part with both for a player they don't really need - i.e. Redden).

I honestly see pick 13 for Redden being a real possibility - looks to be the best case scenario for both clubs

Does Redden get a say in where he is going? Because he honestly shouldn't since he's still contracted and intends to severe it
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Mat0369 on October 06, 2015, 10:01:11 PM
Quote from: Big  Mac on October 06, 2015, 07:02:55 PM
I don't think he's that bad :P

Can take a mark and is still only 22

You guys do already have Casboult though, so I don't think he would be a good fit at Carlton

He's pretty bad.

Remember Geelong needed someone to play next to Tomahawk and had to go out and get Mitch Clark? If he can't be successful at Geelong next to Tomahawk and with the supply he was getting, how will he be any better at Carlton? Just because you play ok at VFL level doesn't mean you are going to be a good AFL player.

Quote from: powersuperkents on October 06, 2015, 09:19:01 PM
+1

I thought Carlton were trying to avoid getting burnt this off-season...

Don't see it happening without Geelong parting with it's first rounder (or unless they can pick up another clubs early second rounder and package it with Spud Walker - Walker would honestly be a step backwards for Carlton unless their goal was to collect all the Walkers in the AFL).

Check Liam Jones, this seems like another one of those moves.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Ringo on October 06, 2015, 10:07:26 PM
Quote from: powersuperkents on October 06, 2015, 09:50:44 PM
Quote from: Ringo on October 06, 2015, 09:39:48 PM
Quote from: powersuperkents on October 06, 2015, 09:22:19 PM
Quote from: TomK on October 06, 2015, 09:17:49 PM
Quote from: powersuperkents on October 06, 2015, 09:16:05 PM
Quote from: TomK on October 06, 2015, 08:51:45 PM
To continue the discussion from the other day, Hampton to Crows for first trade done.

Quote from: powersuperkents on October 06, 2015, 05:58:54 PM
Quote from: Ringo on October 06, 2015, 02:57:25 PM
Could the South Australian Clubs re-enter the race for Jack Redden?  He has proposed to his South Australian girl friend so will this have some factor in final decision.
The Crows could try.
I really hope we do, pick 13 would do it.
I honestly see the Lions asking for Jenkins if this were to occur (not as good as Tex or Lynch, but physically what Brisbane are looking for)
Yeah, they would probably ask but It'd be a pretty quick no
Really?

The Crows have struggled since Tippett left and Jenkins has filled that void - so I see what you mean. However, Redden will be able to instantly fill the void left by Dangerfield (will fill the position well - but in no way comparable to Dangerfield premier ability). I agree, though that the Crows would not be willing to part with Jenkins (he plays an important role for the club).

Redden was a pick in the mid-20's so pick 13 is not far-fetched. However, the Lions have a tendency to overrate their players

This is a situation where keeping Spud McKernan would have been helpful  :P
I would take Pick 13 for Reddo.  we will need some early picks to keep Keays and Hipwood under academy bidding and 13 would be perfect.
I did not consider this

I think Redden may most likely go to the Crows as West Coast would not be able to offer anything better unless they provided Sinclair or Lycett (Sydney likely to get one and I doubt West Coast is willing to part with both for a player they don't really need - i.e. Redden).

I honestly see pick 13 for Redden being a real possibility - looks to be the best case scenario for both clubs

Does Redden get a say in where he is going? Because he honestly shouldn't since he's still contracted and intends to severe it
Redden becomes an eligible restricted free agent after next season so with the request to trade Lions will try and get a decent trade now.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Nige on October 06, 2015, 11:47:38 PM
There's a rumour going around that the Tiges have offered their first rounder for Matthew Lobbe.

Can't imagine it will actually happen though.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Pkbaldy on October 07, 2015, 12:00:13 AM
Quote from: Nige on October 06, 2015, 11:47:38 PM
There's a rumour going around that the Tiges have offered their first rounder for Matthew Lobbe.

Can't imagine it will actually happen though.

Waste. Better off drafting Callum Ah Chee!
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Toga on October 07, 2015, 12:02:36 AM
Good move. Maric isn't getting any younger and Lobbe is a great ruckman.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: powersuperkents on October 07, 2015, 01:50:12 AM
Quote from: Nige on October 06, 2015, 11:47:38 PM
There's a rumour going around that the Tiges have offered their first rounder for Matthew Lobbe.

Can't imagine it will actually happen though.
He's the Port Adelaide Vice-Captain and he's contracted until 2019. There's is literally no way Hinkley is going to let him go (internally Lobbe is revered, he doesn't want to go, and I can't imagine Port trading him because one poor season - and even if they would it wouldn't be for a measly first round pick (Lobbe is a first rounder himself and has always shown why from 2013-14).

Literally, no way this will happen. I think clubs need to give up on Hartlett & Lobbe, they will never move. Now supporters just need to sit and hope we can lock down Wines & Wingard (I'm sure they won't leave - the time to leave was 2012, not after Hinkley has rebuilt the team from the ground up). 
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Holz on October 07, 2015, 10:22:46 AM
Quote from: Big  Mac on October 06, 2015, 06:36:24 PM
Quote from: Nige on October 06, 2015, 12:41:02 PM
Oh, well that's interesting. We did chase Trengove last year and now we've asked about Tyson.

I like Dom Tyson, but I thought we'd aim higher...

Yep Dom Tyson is terrible

Maybe go for some more established names like Taylor Hunt

:P

or Tom Mcdonald, Nathan Jones etc..
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Ricochet on October 07, 2015, 10:43:52 AM
sounds like Redden will be going to WCE.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Pkbaldy on October 07, 2015, 11:06:03 AM
Quote from: Ricochet on October 07, 2015, 10:43:52 AM
sounds like Redden will be going to WCE.

What do you reckon will get the job done?

Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Ricochet on October 07, 2015, 11:19:50 AM
Quote from: Pkbaldy on October 07, 2015, 11:06:03 AM
Quote from: Ricochet on October 07, 2015, 10:43:52 AM
sounds like Redden will be going to WCE.

What do you reckon will get the job done?
Schwab suggested multiple draft picks on Trade Radio this morning
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Spite on October 07, 2015, 12:48:06 PM
Rumour of a 3 way trade between port, dees and pies with toumpas, kennedy and young being swapped around
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: powersuperkents on October 07, 2015, 01:32:04 PM
Quote from: Spite on October 07, 2015, 12:48:06 PM
Rumour of a 3 way trade between port, dees and pies with toumpas, kennedy and young being swapped around
I would be open to that.

3 players who all have potential but just ended up in the wrong teams.

Apparently Collingwood are interested in Young but are still entertaining the idea of getting Andrew Moore.

From a PAFC supporters perspective, I think both will be traded (one might go to the Gold Coast). But Young is the better player of the two (I'm still not sure why Moore was pick 9 and I suspect it was a shallow draft).
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: RaisyDaisy on October 07, 2015, 02:06:41 PM
Garland has signed on with Dees and Hartlett has signed on with Port to 2021!
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Pkbaldy on October 07, 2015, 02:11:08 PM
Quote from: powersuperkents on October 07, 2015, 01:32:04 PM
Quote from: Spite on October 07, 2015, 12:48:06 PM
Rumour of a 3 way trade between port, dees and pies with toumpas, kennedy and young being swapped around
I would be open to that.

3 players who all have potential but just ended up in the wrong teams.

Apparently Collingwood are interested in Young but are still entertaining the idea of getting Andrew Moore.

From a PAFC supporters perspective, I think both will be traded (one might go to the Gold Coast). But Young is the better player of the two (I'm still not sure why Moore was pick 9 and I suspect it was a shallow draft).

Pretty shocking draft actually, with a few exceptions

1   Melbourne   Tom Scully
2   Melbourne   Jack Trengove
3   Richmond   Dustin Martin   
4   Fremantle   Anthony Morabito   
5   North Melbourne   Ben Cunnington
6   Sydney   Gary Rohan   
7   West Coast       Brad Sheppard   
8   Port Adelaide   John Butcher   
9   Port Adelaide   Andrew Moore      
10   Essendon   Jake Melksham   
11   Melbourne   Jordan Gysberts   
12   Carlton   Kane Lucas   
13   Adelaide   Daniel Talia   
14   Sydney   Lewis Jetta   
15   Western Bulldogs    Christian Howard   
16   Port Adelaide   Jasper Pittard   
17   Geelong   Daniel Menzel   
18   Melbourne   Luke Tapscott   
19   Richmond   Ben Griffiths      
20   Fremantle   Nathan Fyfe   
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Ricochet on October 07, 2015, 02:11:59 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on October 07, 2015, 02:06:41 PM
Garland has signed on with Dees and Hartlett has signed on with Port to 2021!
I thought "signed for 6yrs" sounded like ages... but "signed until 2021" sounds like longer!
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Pkbaldy on October 07, 2015, 02:14:12 PM
Even though some later picks look better than top 20 haha

24   Essendon   Jake Carlisle
28     Geelong   Mitch Duncan
29   Adelaide   Jack Gunston
34   Melbourne   Max Gawn
37   North Melbourne    Jamie Macmillan
40   Geelong   Allen Christensen
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Money Shot on October 07, 2015, 02:19:58 PM
Lambs manager pretty much confirmed that he is set on Carlton 8)
Plowman is a "strong" possibility there as well.

Id be happy with that!

Not to sure on Sumner, Phillips and Tomilson though who are all chances!
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Money Shot on October 07, 2015, 02:21:47 PM
Freo has reportedly offered Bennell a contract which he is likely to accept.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: SydneyRox on October 07, 2015, 02:22:37 PM
Quote from: Pkbaldy on October 07, 2015, 02:11:08 PM
Quote from: powersuperkents on October 07, 2015, 01:32:04 PM
Quote from: Spite on October 07, 2015, 12:48:06 PM
Rumour of a 3 way trade between port, dees and pies with toumpas, kennedy and young being swapped around
I would be open to that.

3 players who all have potential but just ended up in the wrong teams.

Apparently Collingwood are interested in Young but are still entertaining the idea of getting Andrew Moore.

From a PAFC supporters perspective, I think both will be traded (one might go to the Gold Coast). But Young is the better player of the two (I'm still not sure why Moore was pick 9 and I suspect it was a shallow draft).

Pretty shocking draft actually, with a few exceptions

1   Melbourne   Tom Scully
2   Melbourne   Jack Trengove
3   Richmond   Dustin Martin   
4   Fremantle   Anthony Morabito   
5   North Melbourne   Ben Cunnington
6   Sydney   Gary Rohan   
7   West Coast       Brad Sheppard   
8   Port Adelaide   John Butcher   
9   Port Adelaide   Andrew Moore      
10   Essendon   Jake Melksham   
11   Melbourne   Jordan Gysberts   
12   Carlton   Kane Lucas   
13   Adelaide   Daniel Talia   
14   Sydney   Lewis Jetta   
15   Western Bulldogs    Christian Howard   
16   Port Adelaide   Jasper Pittard   
17   Geelong   Daniel Menzel   
18   Melbourne   Luke Tapscott   
19   Richmond   Ben Griffiths      
20   Fremantle   Nathan Fyfe

like the roughie @ 20?
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Pkbaldy on October 07, 2015, 02:26:38 PM
Quote from: SydneyRox on October 07, 2015, 02:22:37 PM
Quote from: Pkbaldy on October 07, 2015, 02:11:08 PM
Quote from: powersuperkents on October 07, 2015, 01:32:04 PM
Quote from: Spite on October 07, 2015, 12:48:06 PM
Rumour of a 3 way trade between port, dees and pies with toumpas, kennedy and young being swapped around
I would be open to that.

3 players who all have potential but just ended up in the wrong teams.

Apparently Collingwood are interested in Young but are still entertaining the idea of getting Andrew Moore.

From a PAFC supporters perspective, I think both will be traded (one might go to the Gold Coast). But Young is the better player of the two (I'm still not sure why Moore was pick 9 and I suspect it was a shallow draft).

Pretty shocking draft actually, with a few exceptions

1   Melbourne   Tom Scully
2   Melbourne   Jack Trengove
3   Richmond   Dustin Martin   
4   Fremantle   Anthony Morabito   
5   North Melbourne   Ben Cunnington
6   Sydney   Gary Rohan   
7   West Coast       Brad Sheppard   
8   Port Adelaide   John Butcher   
9   Port Adelaide   Andrew Moore      
10   Essendon   Jake Melksham   
11   Melbourne   Jordan Gysberts   
12   Carlton   Kane Lucas   
13   Adelaide   Daniel Talia   
14   Sydney   Lewis Jetta   
15   Western Bulldogs    Christian Howard   
16   Port Adelaide   Jasper Pittard   
17   Geelong   Daniel Menzel   
18   Melbourne   Luke Tapscott   
19   Richmond   Ben Griffiths      
20   Fremantle   Nathan Fyfe

like the roughie @ 20?

Yeah hahaha. But the every clubs defense, he was a scrawny small key forward with poor disposal haha I think the only reason he was picked up at pick 20 was because of his mad over head skills...
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: meow meow on October 07, 2015, 04:02:58 PM
Hrovat to Melb

Toump & pick 11 to Port

Lobbe to WB

Pick 11 to GC for Dixon
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: elephants on October 07, 2015, 04:04:36 PM
Quote from: meow meow on October 07, 2015, 04:02:58 PM
Hrovat to Melb

Toump & pick 11 to Port

Lobbe to WB

Pick 11 to GC for Dixon

and Fyfe to WCE
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: LF on October 07, 2015, 04:10:28 PM
Quote from: elephants on October 07, 2015, 04:04:36 PM
Quote from: meow meow on October 07, 2015, 04:02:58 PM
Hrovat to Melb

Toump & pick 11 to Port

Lobbe to WB

Pick 11 to GC for Dixon

and Fyfe to WCE

Pfft we don't need him
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: silloc on October 07, 2015, 04:36:43 PM
Quote from: meow meow on October 07, 2015, 04:02:58 PM
Hrovat to Melb

Toump & pick 11 to Port

Lobbe to WB

Pick 11 to GC for Dixon

wait... are you saying melb give up pick 11 for hrovat....
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Spite on October 07, 2015, 04:38:32 PM
Quote from: silloc on October 07, 2015, 04:36:43 PM
Quote from: meow meow on October 07, 2015, 04:02:58 PM
Hrovat to Melb

Toump & pick 11 to Port

Lobbe to WB

Pick 11 to GC for Dixon

wait... are you saying melb give up pick 11 for hrovat....

doggies
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: silloc on October 07, 2015, 04:41:45 PM
Quote from: Spite on October 07, 2015, 04:38:32 PM
Quote from: silloc on October 07, 2015, 04:36:43 PM
Quote from: meow meow on October 07, 2015, 04:02:58 PM
Hrovat to Melb

Toump & pick 11 to Port

Lobbe to WB

Pick 11 to GC for Dixon

wait... are you saying melb give up pick 11 for hrovat....

doggies

ooo sorry read that wrong
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Ringo on October 07, 2015, 04:54:32 PM
Brisbane rumoured to be interested in Stevie J with a possible coaching position when he retires.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: TomK on October 07, 2015, 06:46:45 PM
Zac Smith nominates Geelong. Is there anyone they're not getting?
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: powersuperkents on October 07, 2015, 06:56:40 PM
Quote from: TomK on October 07, 2015, 06:46:45 PM
Zac Smith nominates Geelong. Is there anyone they're not getting?
Bad decision by Smith imo. Depends on what GCS wants of course, however they are going to be busy trading for Dangerfield, Henderson, & Scooter (it's a bad year for other players to pick Geelong as a preferred destination because even Henderson might not go through).

Eagles look likely to match Selwood's offer as well (meaning they will most likely go to the trade table with all three clubs)
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Ricochet on October 07, 2015, 06:57:00 PM
Quote from: TomK on October 07, 2015, 06:46:45 PM
Zac Smith nominates Geelong. Is there anyone they're not getting?
Bennell  ;D
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: shaker on October 07, 2015, 07:05:24 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on October 07, 2015, 06:57:00 PM
Quote from: TomK on October 07, 2015, 06:46:45 PM
Zac Smith nominates Geelong. Is there anyone they're not getting?
Bennell  ;D

Haha you won't have that cheesy grin Rico when Harley hooks up with his old drinking buddies maybe some of the old West Coast boys could mentor him as well  :P
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Big Mac on October 07, 2015, 07:07:13 PM
Quote from: TomK on October 07, 2015, 06:46:45 PM
Zac Smith nominates Geelong. Is there anyone they're not getting?

Melksham  :P


:-X


:-\


:'(


Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Ricochet on October 07, 2015, 07:08:25 PM
Quote from: shaker on October 07, 2015, 07:05:24 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on October 07, 2015, 06:57:00 PM
Quote from: TomK on October 07, 2015, 06:46:45 PM
Zac Smith nominates Geelong. Is there anyone they're not getting?
Bennell  ;D

Haha you won't have that cheesy grin Rico when Harley hooks up with his old drinking buddies maybe some of the old West Coast boys could mentor him as well  :P
He was doing that last year, getting 35+ and kicking 3 goals ;)

Nah, Son Son will sort him out
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: RaisyDaisy on October 07, 2015, 07:18:53 PM
Looks like Zac Smith has decided he wants to step things up and go from the NEAFL to VFL
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: nrich102 on October 07, 2015, 07:54:05 PM
Stevie J! I wouldn't say no, but it seems a little hypocritical to get rid of Adcock because he's old and then bring in SJ.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Big Mac on October 07, 2015, 08:06:15 PM
Can anyone remind me why everyone wants to go to Geeleong?
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Bill Manspeaker on October 07, 2015, 08:23:29 PM
Quote from: Big  Mac on October 07, 2015, 08:06:15 PM
Can anyone remind me why everyone wants to go to Geeleong?

cos they're the greatest team of all and they're always on the ball

read Carlisle may nominate St Kilda tomorrow
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: RaisyDaisy on October 07, 2015, 09:01:15 PM
Freo have offered Bennell a 3 year deal and he has nominated them as his club of choice

Sydney also rumoured to be interested in Stevie J
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: powersuperkents on October 07, 2015, 09:09:57 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on October 07, 2015, 09:01:15 PM
Freo have offered Bennell a 3 year deal and he has nominated them as his club of choice

Sydney also rumoured to be interested in Stevie J
Seriously??

I cannot imagine that at all - only struggling club would find him useful (for experience and potential coaching ability)
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: SydneyRox on October 07, 2015, 09:30:58 PM
Quote from: powersuperkents on October 07, 2015, 09:09:57 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on October 07, 2015, 09:01:15 PM
Freo have offered Bennell a 3 year deal and he has nominated them as his club of choice

Sydney also rumoured to be interested in Stevie J
Seriously??

I cannot imagine that at all - only struggling club would find him useful (for experience and potential coaching ability)

Yeah, that is the first j am hearing on that one. Can't see it working.

Did hear on radio today that cal Sinclair is about to nominate the swans as a trade request. I must admit I haven't seen enough to say he is any good as a ruckman, which we need more than a fwd come ruckman

Still would have preferred Zac Smith and how we can land Luey but that is looking less likely as time goes on

Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: elephants on October 07, 2015, 09:32:43 PM
Would be very very surprised to see Sinclair seek a trade away unless its for cash cash cash.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: SydneyRox on October 07, 2015, 09:35:35 PM
Quote from: elephants on October 07, 2015, 09:32:43 PM
Would be very very surprised to see Sinclair seek a trade away unless its for cash cash cash.

Can't see us throwing too much cash at him. Unless he Berger nominates the bombers then he might get more, but can't see it being too big
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: elephants on October 07, 2015, 09:38:04 PM
Quote from: SydneyRox on October 07, 2015, 09:35:35 PM
Quote from: elephants on October 07, 2015, 09:32:43 PM
Would be very very surprised to see Sinclair seek a trade away unless its for cash cash cash.

Can't see us throwing too much cash at him. Unless he Berger nominates the bombers then he might get more, but can't see it being too big

Hmm yeah well unless he has family ties we dont know about I cant see why he would. Bigger premiership chance at West Coast! :p
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: meow meow on October 07, 2015, 09:45:11 PM
Maybe he doesn't want to play as #2 ruck for his whole career? He's a decent ruck and would thrive as the main man. Infinitely better than Zmith.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: SydneyRox on October 07, 2015, 09:47:34 PM
Quote from: meow meow on October 07, 2015, 09:45:11 PM
Maybe he doesn't want to play as #2 ruck for his whole career? He's a decent ruck and would thrive as the main man. Infinitely better than Zmith.

Really? Nice! Hope he gets to us. Eagles wanting Jetta will help, maybe throw in Marsh?
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: LF on October 07, 2015, 10:03:53 PM
Quote from: elephants on October 07, 2015, 09:32:43 PM
Would be very very surprised to see Sinclair seek a trade away unless its for cash cash cash.

If anyone would want to leave it would be Lycett not Sinkers
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Levi434 on October 07, 2015, 10:34:39 PM
Quote from: LF on October 07, 2015, 10:03:53 PM
Quote from: elephants on October 07, 2015, 09:32:43 PM
Would be very very surprised to see Sinclair seek a trade away unless its for cash cash cash.

If anyone would want to leave it would be Lycett not Sinkers


Sinclair >>> Lycett >> Leuy >>>> Smith
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Money Shot on October 07, 2015, 11:25:07 PM
Carlton give up pick 20 for Plowman and Lamb!?

Do you reckon that's a win win? The guys on AFL trade radio said something like that could happen and I wouldn't mind that as a Carlton fan!
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: powersuperkents on October 07, 2015, 11:32:49 PM
Quote from: Money Shot on October 07, 2015, 11:25:07 PM
Carlton give up pick 20 for Plowman and Lamb!?

Do you reckon that's a win win? The guys on AFL trade radio said something like that could happen and I wouldn't mind that as a Carlton fan!
Win for Carlton (win-win for the Giants too because they don't want these talented prospects wasting their lives in the NEAFL - some players could end up resenting that club one day).

Definitely a win for Carlton though and would cut the Giant's list down by one and free up space in the salary cap to give required players pay raises (plus, again, Plowman & Lamb will finally get decent opportunities at AFL level). A solid trade for the Blues (what the Giants gain is obviously less apparent in this scenario, but I believe the benefit would be what I've listed above).
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: RaisyDaisy on October 07, 2015, 11:38:46 PM
I don't rate Lamb at all, so it makes sense that Carlton are chasing him
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: powersuperkents on October 07, 2015, 11:46:58 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on October 07, 2015, 11:38:46 PM
I don't rate Lamb at all, so it makes sense that Carlton are chasing him
Really?

I don't think he's that bad. The position he plays (small forward) usually requires exceptional talent (i.e. Betts, Rioli, Wingard, Balla, LeCras, Walters, Bruest, Elliot etc.) to make it worthwhile for a coach to play them. But I think he's a victim of the high draft pick. He was pick 21 but in an extended draft which made him a 1st rounder (he would usually be an early 2nd rounder) so people tend to expect bigger things from him. He's dominated in the NEAFL but has not been able to replicate the form at AFL level. I still think he is worth taking the punt on (Sydney have always been a tough side to break into and GWS hasn't really been any different for a young player). Carlton is honestly the best team he can go to if he's serious about actually getting his AFL career started one day so it's good to see that he's finally making a positive decision regarding his future.

Plowman doesn't really need any defence but has been shocking at AFL level (obviously hasn't been exposed to the AFL enough yet so this trade should be good for him). It also seems like GWS are backing Marchbank over him
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Mat0369 on October 07, 2015, 11:56:34 PM
Quote from: TomK on October 07, 2015, 06:46:45 PM
Zac Smith nominates Geelong. Is there anyone they're not getting?

That's interesting. He and the wife are both from Queensland. I don't know how close he is with Josh Caddy but they might have some friends out that way

Quote from: RaisyDaisy on October 07, 2015, 11:38:46 PM
I don't rate Lamb at all, so it makes sense that Carlton are chasing him

He wasn't too bad when he left the Swans. He looked like he was finally having an impact at AFL level after being the sub every week. The fact he struggled to crack a game at the Giants is a worry. Our small forward stocks are horrible though, almost anything is an upgrade.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: RaisyDaisy on October 08, 2015, 12:03:08 AM
Don't get me wrong, I understand that the time he was with Sydney was always hard to get a game, but he couldn't even get a regular run with GWS. The whole concept that they had plenty of kids is irrelevant, because he is one of those kids.

3rd club already. Carlton is the perfect chance for him, but if he cant make it work now then he never will. I'm sure he would get a chance, but I stand by my comment - I just don't rate him and cant see him really mounting to anything significant
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: powersuperkents on October 08, 2015, 12:25:07 AM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on October 08, 2015, 12:03:08 AM
Don't get me wrong, I understand that the time he was with Sydney was always hard to get a game, but he couldn't even get a regular run with GWS. The whole concept that they had plenty of kids is irrelevant, because he is one of those kids.

3rd club already. Carlton is the perfect chance for him, but if he cant make it work now then he never will. I'm sure he would get a chance, but I stand by my comment - I just don't rate him and cant see him really mounting to anything significant
I agree with that mate

He couldn't regularly get a stint at GWS and that is something to worry about at this point - and most likely why GWS would be willing to part with him and Plowman for pick 20. Silvagni obviously sees something in him, but then it's a question of whether SoS thinks he's a genuine talent, or whether SoS knows that's the best Carlton can get at the moment.

I agree, he will get game time at Carlton, but if he doesn't there won't be any more excuses for the kid - I think he either performs at Carlton or gets delisted (because if he doesn't perform there, he isn't of AFL standard). I understand where you are coming from and I'm sure Carlton have their doubts, but pick 20 is a small price to pay when your club is expecting pick 1 + 2 first rounders for Henderson & Yarran. What doesn't make sense is that if Tom Bell leaves to Brisbane, his projected value is a 2nd round pick and a 'steak knife' player... (easily outperformed both Hendo & Yaz this season - don't see Carlton letting him go at that price, esp. when he's still contracted)
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Money Shot on October 08, 2015, 12:33:01 AM
Yeah Carlton will do everything possible to get the most from Bell!
And I don't know much about Lamb but I do think Plowman is a good fit and could play on that third tall behind Weightering and Carslile ;)
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: kilbluff1985 on October 08, 2015, 12:35:52 AM
Carlton are idiots if they trade Bell
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: powersuperkents on October 08, 2015, 12:55:39 AM
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on October 08, 2015, 12:35:52 AM
Carlton are idiots if they trade Bell
They don't want to trade him.

The problem is Bell may request a trade home - and with one year remaining on his contract it would be more practical for Carlton to just get as much value as possible.

But I don't think Carlton should worry about it unless Bell informs them that he wants to go (I see them retaining him). 
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Mat0369 on October 08, 2015, 12:56:40 AM
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on October 08, 2015, 12:35:52 AM
Carlton are idiots if they trade Bell

You think they want to?  ::)

His family is from Brisbane and like Beams his dad is sick.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Mat0369 on October 08, 2015, 01:00:03 AM
Quote from: powersuperkents on October 08, 2015, 12:55:39 AM
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on October 08, 2015, 12:35:52 AM
Carlton are idiots if they trade Bell
They don't want to trade him.

The problem is Bell may request a trade home - and with one year remaining on his contract it would be more practical for Carlton to just get as much value as possible.

But I don't think Carlton should worry about it unless Bell informs them that he wants to go (I see them retaining him).

Only reason he will go home is family and it will be this year for that reason. If he wants to go we'll do the right thing by him. Otherwise he's pretty happy at the club.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Money Shot on October 08, 2015, 01:13:11 AM
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on October 08, 2015, 12:35:52 AM
Carlton are idiots if they trade Bell
He wants to go home for family reasons ...
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: kilbluff1985 on October 08, 2015, 01:14:54 AM
forgive my ignorance
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Ricochet on October 08, 2015, 11:11:11 AM
Carlisle just nominated St Kilda as his club of choice
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Ricochet on October 08, 2015, 11:15:19 AM
Dale Miller ‏@miller_dj
Brant Colledge has requested a trade from @WestCoastEagles. Knows he could get squeezed out with more midfield talent on radar



This kid had some very good games in the wafl this year
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Bill Manspeaker on October 08, 2015, 11:31:40 AM
Jakey  8)

Carlisle and Goddard down back, Bruce and McCartin up forward. beeeyadaful
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Mat0369 on October 08, 2015, 11:36:35 AM
Hawks apparently after Yaz.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Money Shot on October 08, 2015, 11:50:11 AM
Apparently
Yarran and our 3rd round pick for Lennon is a possibility ...
I would be stoked with that as he is going to be a real good player!

Sadly Carslile is going to saints :(

Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Ricochet on October 08, 2015, 12:24:05 PM
Carlisle and 2nd rounder for N5
That 2nd rounder to Pies for Freeman

Saints give up N5 for Carlisle + Freeman

They'll be happy with that
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: powersuperkents on October 08, 2015, 12:27:26 PM
Quote from: Money Shot on October 08, 2015, 11:50:11 AM
Apparently
Yarran and our 3rd round pick for Lennon is a possibility ...
I would be stoked with that as he is going to be a real good player!

Sadly Carslile is going to saints :(
Personally, I think Richmond supporters overrate Lennon

However, that would be a win for Carlton as they new starters
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Pkbaldy on October 08, 2015, 12:30:35 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on October 08, 2015, 12:24:05 PM
Carlisle and 2nd rounder for N5
That 2nd rounder to Pies for Freeman

Saints give up N5 for Carlisle + Freeman

They'll be happy with that

I wouldn't be.... Richo rates N5 pretty highly (Pretty sure he wants Rhys Mathieson) .

If we were to give up a first rounder, it'll be next years.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: powersuperkents on October 08, 2015, 12:36:52 PM
Quote from: Pkbaldy on October 08, 2015, 12:30:35 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on October 08, 2015, 12:24:05 PM
Carlisle and 2nd rounder for N5
That 2nd rounder to Pies for Freeman

Saints give up N5 for Carlisle + Freeman

They'll be happy with that

I wouldn't be.... Richo rates N5 pretty highly (Pretty sure he wants Rhys Mathieson) .

If we were to give up a first rounder, it'll be next years.
I heard it was something like this

Carlisle (Ess) -> St Kilda
Pick 5 (St Kilda) -> Essendon
Pick 23 (Ess) -> Collingwood
Freeman (Coll) -> St Kilda
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: LF on October 08, 2015, 12:57:31 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on October 08, 2015, 11:15:19 AM
Dale Miller ‏@miller_dj
Brant Colledge has requested a trade from @WestCoastEagles. Knows he could get squeezed out with more midfield talent on radar



This kid had some very good games in the wafl this year

I could see this coming,even though I didn't want to but he won't get in the team anytime soon so good luck to him whatever team he goes to should be happy to get him.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: elephants on October 08, 2015, 01:05:52 PM
Yeah I rate Colledge, big goal-kicking mid. Would slot into most teams in the bottom 8 imo.

On Lamb, I think he's been a little unlucky. Seems like one of those players who is stuck somewhere between the ressies and AFL. Dominates the NEAFL, struggles at AFL level.

At Carlton I think he'd be decent, can see that working.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: powersuperkents on October 08, 2015, 01:13:50 PM
Quote from: elephants on October 08, 2015, 01:05:52 PM
Yeah I rate Colledge, big goal-kicking mid. Would slot into most teams in the bottom 8 imo.

On Lamb, I think he's been a little unlucky. Seems like one of those players who is stuck somewhere between the ressies and AFL. Dominates the NEAFL, struggles at AFL level.

At Carlton I think he'd be decent, can see that working.
And worst case scenario... He finally find a home in the VFL  :P

But in all seriousness, I think he will be a good pick up for Carlton (Lamb & Menzel will make a nice combination up forward)
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Money Shot on October 08, 2015, 01:30:00 PM
Casboult and Bell for Aish and pick 21 was talked about on trade radio this morning ...

As a Carlton fan I would not like that unless we get both of Lennon and Walker (Gee) in as we need the tall forwards ...
Lennon would be a good 10 year player for us ... Not so keen on walker but I guess he is young and has some potential...
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Toga on October 08, 2015, 01:31:40 PM
Lennon's manager on trade radio said that while there are a number of interested clubs outside of Richmond, his view is that Lennon will still be a Tiger next year.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Money Shot on October 08, 2015, 01:37:39 PM
Quote from: Toga on October 08, 2015, 01:31:40 PM
Lennon's manager on trade radio said that while there are a number of interested clubs outside of Richmond, his view is that Lennon will still be a Tiger next year.
Mate I'm a hopeful Carlton fan ;D
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: powersuperkents on October 08, 2015, 02:33:51 PM
Quote from: Money Shot on October 08, 2015, 01:37:39 PM
Quote from: Toga on October 08, 2015, 01:31:40 PM
Lennon's manager on trade radio said that while there are a number of interested clubs outside of Richmond, his view is that Lennon will still be a Tiger next year.
Mate I'm a hopeful Carlton fan ;D
Yeah I know what you mean, but I don't see Lennon leaving

He's from Melbourne and wants to stay in Melbourne. The only reason I could see him leaving Richmond for another Melbourne based club is $$$. He should be getting regular opportunities next season now that the vest is gone - but that is obviously why he hasn't resigned (lack of playing opportunities - although I think Richmond have done well to give him adequate opportunities considering that they are a top 4 contender)

I don't see that happening - clubs would only be willing to offer him money comparable to what Richmond is paying because so far his only asset is potential (why Nat Freeman will not get a pay raise - and might get a pay deduction in St Kilda)... Hopefully we see more of him next season
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Ricochet on October 08, 2015, 02:36:22 PM
Quote from: Pkbaldy on October 08, 2015, 12:30:35 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on October 08, 2015, 12:24:05 PM
Carlisle and 2nd rounder for N5
That 2nd rounder to Pies for Freeman

Saints give up N5 for Carlisle + Freeman

They'll be happy with that

I wouldn't be.... Richo rates N5 pretty highly (Pretty sure he wants Rhys Mathieson) .

If we were to give up a first rounder, it'll be next years.
or maybe something with Seb Ross. He is Jobe's cousin after all
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Pkbaldy on October 08, 2015, 02:42:18 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on October 08, 2015, 02:36:22 PM
Quote from: Pkbaldy on October 08, 2015, 12:30:35 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on October 08, 2015, 12:24:05 PM
Carlisle and 2nd rounder for N5
That 2nd rounder to Pies for Freeman

Saints give up N5 for Carlisle + Freeman

They'll be happy with that

I wouldn't be.... Richo rates N5 pretty highly (Pretty sure he wants Rhys Mathieson) .

If we were to give up a first rounder, it'll be next years.
or maybe something with Seb Ross. He is Jobe's cousin after all

I'm just going for a straight out.

1st Rounder (2016) for Jake Carlilse + 2nd Rounder (2016).

With that 2nd rounder going to Collingwood for Freeman.

Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Ricochet on October 08, 2015, 02:47:25 PM
Quote from: Pkbaldy on October 08, 2015, 02:42:18 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on October 08, 2015, 02:36:22 PM
Quote from: Pkbaldy on October 08, 2015, 12:30:35 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on October 08, 2015, 12:24:05 PM
Carlisle and 2nd rounder for N5
That 2nd rounder to Pies for Freeman

Saints give up N5 for Carlisle + Freeman

They'll be happy with that

I wouldn't be.... Richo rates N5 pretty highly (Pretty sure he wants Rhys Mathieson) .

If we were to give up a first rounder, it'll be next years.
or maybe something with Seb Ross. He is Jobe's cousin after all

I'm just going for a straight out.

1st Rounder (2016) for Jake Carlilse + 2nd Rounder (2016)

With that 2nd rounder going to Collingwood for Freeman.
Yeh that's not bad. Reckon Essendon might use the 2nd rounder they get for Melksham instead of their 2016 one
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Pkbaldy on October 08, 2015, 02:49:12 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on October 08, 2015, 02:47:25 PM
Quote from: Pkbaldy on October 08, 2015, 02:42:18 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on October 08, 2015, 02:36:22 PM
Quote from: Pkbaldy on October 08, 2015, 12:30:35 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on October 08, 2015, 12:24:05 PM
Carlisle and 2nd rounder for N5
That 2nd rounder to Pies for Freeman

Saints give up N5 for Carlisle + Freeman

They'll be happy with that

I wouldn't be.... Richo rates N5 pretty highly (Pretty sure he wants Rhys Mathieson) .

If we were to give up a first rounder, it'll be next years.
or maybe something with Seb Ross. He is Jobe's cousin after all

I'm just going for a straight out.

1st Rounder (2016) for Jake Carlilse + 2nd Rounder (2016)

With that 2nd rounder going to Collingwood for Freeman.
Yeh that's not bad. Reckon Essendon might use the 2nd rounder they get for Melksham instead of their 2016 one

Depending on which trade is confirmed first. But I like your thinking with that.

Saints 1st Rounder for Jake Carlisle + Melb 2nd Rounder
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Pkbaldy on October 08, 2015, 03:32:57 PM
Ben Guthrie ‏@AFL_BenGuthrie 7s7 seconds ago

Saints list manager Ameet Bains says the club won't be offering pick No.5 for Jake Carlisle. "Very confident" deal will get done though

Makes me even more confident that it'll be next years 1st rounder.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: powersuperkents on October 08, 2015, 03:46:26 PM
Quote from: Pkbaldy on October 08, 2015, 03:32:57 PM
Ben Guthrie ‏@AFL_BenGuthrie 7s7 seconds ago

Saints list manager Ameet Bains says the club won't be offering pick No.5 for Jake Carlisle. "Very confident" deal will get done though

Makes me even more confident that it'll be next years 1st rounder.
I know the Saints are merely negotiating. But I think they are running a real risk - next years first rounder might be a good deal for the Dons though encase Worsfield pulls them back into the 8 (and the Bombers really do believe they will be a top 8 side next season by the sounds of it). 
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Football Factory on October 08, 2015, 04:11:09 PM
Quote from: FOOTBALL FACTORY on October 04, 2015, 03:16:32 PM
Jake Carlisle

Is this good enough or does it have to be first confirmed trade on Monday   ;D


(http://s.afl.com.au/staticfile/AFL%20Tenant/Ill-Be-A-Saint-In-2016.jpg)
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Pkbaldy on October 08, 2015, 04:29:51 PM
Quote from: FOOTBALL FACTORY on October 08, 2015, 04:11:09 PM
Quote from: FOOTBALL FACTORY on October 04, 2015, 03:16:32 PM
Jake Carlisle

Is this good enough or does it have to be first confirmed trade on Monday   ;D


(http://s.afl.com.au/staticfile/AFL%20Tenant/Ill-Be-A-Saint-In-2016.jpg)

Depends if they come to an agreement between Bains and Dodoro.

I wish they'd stop referring him to as a Swingman... He's a defender. Just got forced to play forward haha.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: meow meow on October 08, 2015, 04:44:24 PM
Quote from: powersuperkents on October 08, 2015, 03:46:26 PM
Quote from: Pkbaldy on October 08, 2015, 03:32:57 PM
Ben Guthrie ‏@AFL_BenGuthrie 7s7 seconds ago

Saints list manager Ameet Bains says the club won't be offering pick No.5 for Jake Carlisle. "Very confident" deal will get done though

Makes me even more confident that it'll be next years 1st rounder.
I know the Saints are merely negotiating. But I think they are running a real risk - next years first rounder might be a good deal for the Dons though encase Worsfield pulls them back into the 8 (and the Bombers really do believe they will be a top 8 side next season by the sounds of it).

Huh? St Kilda are the ones that will be giving up the pick so Essendon's finishing position isn't relevant haha.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Big Mac on October 08, 2015, 04:47:20 PM
Quote from: meow meow on October 08, 2015, 04:44:24 PM
Quote from: powersuperkents on October 08, 2015, 03:46:26 PM
Quote from: Pkbaldy on October 08, 2015, 03:32:57 PM
Ben Guthrie ‏@AFL_BenGuthrie 7s7 seconds ago

Saints list manager Ameet Bains says the club won't be offering pick No.5 for Jake Carlisle. "Very confident" deal will get done though

Makes me even more confident that it'll be next years 1st rounder.
I know the Saints are merely negotiating. But I think they are running a real risk - next years first rounder might be a good deal for the Dons though encase Worsfield pulls them back into the 8 (and the Bombers really do believe they will be a top 8 side next season by the sounds of it).

Huh? St Kilda are the ones that will be giving up the pick so Essendon's finishing position isn't relevant haha.

Lol  :P
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Football Factory on October 08, 2015, 04:48:30 PM
Quote from: Pkbaldy on October 08, 2015, 04:29:51 PM
Quote from: FOOTBALL FACTORY on October 08, 2015, 04:11:09 PM
Quote from: FOOTBALL FACTORY on October 04, 2015, 03:16:32 PM
Jake Carlisle

Is this good enough or does it have to be first confirmed trade on Monday   ;D


(http://s.afl.com.au/staticfile/AFL%20Tenant/Ill-Be-A-Saint-In-2016.jpg)

Depends if they come to an agreement between Bains and Dodoro.

I wish they'd stop referring him to as a Swingman... He's a defender. Just got forced to play forward haha.

Yeah think they will get it done though
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Pkbaldy on October 08, 2015, 04:53:12 PM
Quote from: FOOTBALL FACTORY on October 08, 2015, 04:48:30 PM
Quote from: Pkbaldy on October 08, 2015, 04:29:51 PM
Quote from: FOOTBALL FACTORY on October 08, 2015, 04:11:09 PM
Quote from: FOOTBALL FACTORY on October 04, 2015, 03:16:32 PM
Jake Carlisle

Is this good enough or does it have to be first confirmed trade on Monday   ;D


(http://s.afl.com.au/staticfile/AFL%20Tenant/Ill-Be-A-Saint-In-2016.jpg)

Depends if they come to an agreement between Bains and Dodoro.

I wish they'd stop referring him to as a Swingman... He's a defender. Just got forced to play forward haha.

Yeah think they will get it done though

Personally, i'll be surprised if it's done Monday. But it'll be fine by me :P Still punting on Freeman to be the first trade.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Big Mac on October 08, 2015, 05:18:33 PM
Is next year's draft worse?

Not sure why the Saints would want to give up next year's first rounder

I can't see them finishing any higher on the ladder
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Nige on October 08, 2015, 05:21:02 PM
Quote from: Big  Mac on October 08, 2015, 05:18:33 PM
Is next year's draft worse?

Not sure why the Saints would want to give up next year's first rounder

I can't see them finishing any higher on the ladder
It's probably more of a case of wanting to keep pick 5 in hope of getting a certain player.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Adamant on October 08, 2015, 05:52:56 PM
James Aish has asked to be traded to Collingwood.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: LF on October 08, 2015, 05:53:04 PM
Just read that Aish has asked to be traded to Collingwood

http://www.afl.com.au/news/2015-10-08/aish-asks-for-trade-to-collingwood
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: T Dog on October 08, 2015, 05:55:30 PM
The Pies may have to let Dangerfield slip by. How many players can they get in this year?   ;D
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Pkbaldy on October 08, 2015, 05:59:55 PM
Quote from: Big  Mac on October 08, 2015, 05:18:33 PM
Is next year's draft worse?

Not sure why the Saints would want to give up next year's first rounder

I can't see them finishing any higher on the ladder

Well I reckon we can and WILL finish higher. And next years draft will be decent. But we are tracking for 2018, that extra year in a player could be the difference.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Ricochet on October 08, 2015, 06:00:10 PM
Freo delistings:
Ryan Crowley
Paul Duffield (retired)
Max Duffy
Josh Deluca (will re-draft)
Jacob Ballard
Craig Moller
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Toga on October 08, 2015, 06:18:10 PM
So if Aish wants a trade, but Brisbane say they won't trade him... What does that mean? Straight to the draft and they lose him for nothing?
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: powersuperkents on October 08, 2015, 06:25:39 PM
Quote from: Big  Mac on October 08, 2015, 04:47:20 PM
Quote from: meow meow on October 08, 2015, 04:44:24 PM
Quote from: powersuperkents on October 08, 2015, 03:46:26 PM
Quote from: Pkbaldy on October 08, 2015, 03:32:57 PM
Ben Guthrie ‏@AFL_BenGuthrie 7s7 seconds ago

Saints list manager Ameet Bains says the club won't be offering pick No.5 for Jake Carlisle. "Very confident" deal will get done though

Makes me even more confident that it'll be next years 1st rounder.
I know the Saints are merely negotiating. But I think they are running a real risk - next years first rounder might be a good deal for the Dons though encase Worsfield pulls them back into the 8 (and the Bombers really do believe they will be a top 8 side next season by the sounds of it).

Huh? St Kilda are the ones that will be giving up the pick so Essendon's finishing position isn't relevant haha.

Lol  :P
haha sorry just noticed that  :-\

I was referring more to Essendon having a potential top 5 pick next season as well as this year (as they plan to be in the top 8 next season). But obviously that depends on the Saints  :P
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: powersuperkents on October 08, 2015, 06:29:45 PM
Quote from: Toga on October 08, 2015, 06:18:10 PM
So if Aish wants a trade, but Brisbane say they won't trade him... What does that mean? Straight to the draft and they lose him for nothing?
Yep that's it

It happened with Ben Jacobs at Port Adelaide as well

Good on the Lions, the club would have been willing to trade him wherever he wanted to go if he had informed them earlier instead of wasting their time.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Big Mac on October 08, 2015, 06:33:23 PM
Quote from: Toga on October 08, 2015, 06:18:10 PM
So if Aish wants a trade, but Brisbane say they won't trade him... What does that mean? Straight to the draft and they lose him for nothing?

No way

Brisbane aren't stupid
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Southstorm on October 08, 2015, 06:35:31 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on October 08, 2015, 02:47:25 PM
Quote from: Pkbaldy on October 08, 2015, 02:42:18 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on October 08, 2015, 02:36:22 PM
Quote from: Pkbaldy on October 08, 2015, 12:30:35 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on October 08, 2015, 12:24:05 PM
Carlisle and 2nd rounder for N5
That 2nd rounder to Pies for Freeman

Saints give up N5 for Carlisle + Freeman

They'll be happy with that

I wouldn't be.... Richo rates N5 pretty highly (Pretty sure he wants Rhys Mathieson) .

If we were to give up a first rounder, it'll be next years.
or maybe something with Seb Ross. He is Jobe's cousin after all

I'm just going for a straight out.

1st Rounder (2016) for Jake Carlilse + 2nd Rounder (2016)

With that 2nd rounder going to Collingwood for Freeman.
Yeh that's not bad. Reckon Essendon might use the 2nd rounder they get for Melksham instead of their 2016 one
If it's not this years first round pick, I doubt essendon will be sending along a second round pick with Carlisle. Next years pick isn't nearly as attractive for us as this years. 
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: powersuperkents on October 08, 2015, 06:36:38 PM
Quote from: Big  Mac on October 08, 2015, 06:33:23 PM
Quote from: Toga on October 08, 2015, 06:18:10 PM
So if Aish wants a trade, but Brisbane say they won't trade him... What does that mean? Straight to the draft and they lose him for nothing?

No way

Brisbane aren't stupid
Yeah I think it's a negotiation tactic - they will try to land a decent player or a 1st round pick.

It could also make Carlton reconsider pick 1 and possibly go Aish over Schache (leaving the key forward to fall to the Lions) - so unlikely though, almost impossible haha (Jacobs dropped 20 places his 2nd time around)
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Ricochet on October 08, 2015, 06:37:13 PM
http://m.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/afl-trades-2015-james-aish-requests-trade-to-collingwood-but-lions-playing-hardball/story-fni5f6hd-1227562230246

QuoteLions chief executive Greg Swann drew a line in the sand today, adamant Brisbane was prepared to lose Aish to make a stand against player departures.

“We are not trading him. He either plays at Carlton or he plays for us,’’ he told the Herald Sun.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Toga on October 08, 2015, 06:59:02 PM
Quote from: Big  Mac on October 08, 2015, 06:33:23 PM
Quote from: Toga on October 08, 2015, 06:18:10 PM
So if Aish wants a trade, but Brisbane say they won't trade him... What does that mean? Straight to the draft and they lose him for nothing?

No way

Brisbane aren't stupid

Well that's what I was thinking... So why say that in the first place haha? :P
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Ringo on October 08, 2015, 07:02:40 PM
So the fun starts with Aish and see what happens. Admire the club for stance taken given how we were dudded with go home players 2 years ago. We bowed to player demands then and then got screwed at trade table and had to accept what was offered. About time also clubs took a stand for young players that are under contract and want out.

Know it can work both ways but as the saying goes once bitten twice shy.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Bill Manspeaker on October 08, 2015, 07:12:15 PM
I sorta like how Brisbane are making a stance, but feel they could miss out on some good compensation.

use pick 7(?) on a kid, and then a few years later lose him for nothing. I reckon they should play ball
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: powersuperkents on October 08, 2015, 07:18:32 PM
Quote from: Bill Manspeaker on October 08, 2015, 07:12:15 PM
I sorta like how Brisbane are making a stance, but feel they could miss out on some good compensation.

use pick 7(?) on a kid, and then a few years later lose him for nothing. I reckon they should play ball
Well Carlton are interested in Aish, and Brisbane claim that they are only open to trading Aish with them.

If Bell requests a trade home it could open up the potential for a straight swap
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Ricochet on October 08, 2015, 07:22:37 PM
Quote from: powersuperkents on October 08, 2015, 07:18:32 PM
Quote from: Bill Manspeaker on October 08, 2015, 07:12:15 PM
I sorta like how Brisbane are making a stance, but feel they could miss out on some good compensation.

use pick 7(?) on a kid, and then a few years later lose him for nothing. I reckon they should play ball
Well Carlton are interested in Aish, and Brisbane claim that they are only open to trading Aish with them.

If Bell requests a trade home it could open up the potential for a straight swap
No Brissie are saying they would rather let him go to the preseason draft (and get picked up by Carlton) then trade him out
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Ringo on October 08, 2015, 07:23:35 PM
Quote from: Bill Manspeaker on October 08, 2015, 07:12:15 PM
I sorta like how Brisbane are making a stance, but feel they could miss out on some good compensation.

use pick 7(?) on a kid, and then a few years later lose him for nothing. I reckon they should play ball
Would be an interesting situation if he was forced into the draft and Carlton did not take him at 1 would we take him at 2  on the principle.

Sort of torn both ways but can not see Pies giving up a first round pick especially with other fish they are trying to land hence i think the stance we are taking.

regarding Bell and a straight swap do not know how that sits with Aish given he has nominated Pies.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: powersuperkents on October 08, 2015, 07:28:51 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on October 08, 2015, 07:22:37 PM
Quote from: powersuperkents on October 08, 2015, 07:18:32 PM
Quote from: Bill Manspeaker on October 08, 2015, 07:12:15 PM
I sorta like how Brisbane are making a stance, but feel they could miss out on some good compensation.

use pick 7(?) on a kid, and then a few years later lose him for nothing. I reckon they should play ball
Well Carlton are interested in Aish, and Brisbane claim that they are only open to trading Aish with them.

If Bell requests a trade home it could open up the potential for a straight swap
No Brissie are saying they would rather let him go to the preseason draft (and get picked up by Carlton) then trade him out
Really?

I thought they were at least referring to the Nat - so that Carlton would select Aish and Brisbane could pick up Schache.

This is quite the stand by the Lions. This is why the AFL should not have changed the academy rules, home grown players would be easily accessible for the Lions and the club would not have to deal with players like this. Again, I admire the stand the club has taken with Aish.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Nige on October 08, 2015, 07:29:43 PM
Hawks have delisted Woodward, Grimely and Hardisty.

Edit: They're apparently keen to re-draft Woodward and put him on the rookie list.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: powersuperkents on October 08, 2015, 07:31:06 PM
Quote from: Ringo on October 08, 2015, 07:23:35 PM
Quote from: Bill Manspeaker on October 08, 2015, 07:12:15 PM
I sorta like how Brisbane are making a stance, but feel they could miss out on some good compensation.

use pick 7(?) on a kid, and then a few years later lose him for nothing. I reckon they should play ball
Would be an interesting situation if he was forced into the draft and Carlton did not take him at 1 would we take him at 2  on the principle.

Sort of torn both ways but can not see Pies giving up a first round pick especially with other fish they are trying to land hence i think the stance we are taking.

regarding Bell and a straight swap do not know how that sits with Aish given he has nominated Pies.
Brisbane should just keep deliberately coming last every third year and constantly draft, & re-draft Aish until he retires or quits hahaha
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: RaisyDaisy on October 08, 2015, 07:48:05 PM
I feel sorry for Brisbane. This wanting to go home rubbish is such an easy cop out to leave. Teams invest years into kids when they arrive, and then they just leave. It's just not right and something needs to change

Duffman retiring was a little surprising. Guessing they told him he would get delisted so he opted to retire
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Jukes on October 08, 2015, 08:01:14 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on October 08, 2015, 07:48:05 PM
I feel sorry for Brisbane. This wanting to go home rubbish is such an easy cop out to leave. Teams invest years into kids when they arrive, and then they just leave. It's just not right and something needs to change

I agree, players are such little doges now
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: RaisyDaisy on October 08, 2015, 08:04:52 PM
Quote from: Jukes on October 08, 2015, 08:01:14 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on October 08, 2015, 07:48:05 PM
I feel sorry for Brisbane. This wanting to go home rubbish is such an easy cop out to leave. Teams invest years into kids when they arrive, and then they just leave. It's just not right and something needs to change

I agree, players are such little doges now

Shocked that Jukes actually agrees with something here :P

These kids get drafted and it's the best day of their lives, then a couple of years in the system and they just think they don't owe the club anything and pack up and leave. Hopefully a change or rules around this are introduced eventually
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Money Shot on October 08, 2015, 09:06:46 PM
If Aish requested collingwood is there any point in us picking him up in the pre season draft? (Us being Carlton)

Also, if Brisbane doesn't trade and let's him go to the preseason draft do they get anything in return?
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Cambo on October 08, 2015, 09:27:12 PM
I dont see why people feel sorry for Brisbane  :o.  They are a dysfunctional joke on and off the field, no wonder guys want to leave every year. 
Now they want to throw a tanty because Aish wants out.  They knew weeks ago when he wouldnt re-sign but hoped he would.

Collingwood were fair with Beams last year, now its Brisbane's turn with Aish  8)
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: iZander on October 08, 2015, 09:29:58 PM
Quote from: Cambo on October 08, 2015, 09:27:12 PM
I dont see why people feel sorry for Brisbane  :o.  They are a dysfunctional joke on and off the field, no wonder guys want to leave every year. 
Now they want to throw a tanty because Aish wants out.  They knew weeks ago when he wouldnt re-sign but hoped he would.

Collingwood were fair with Beams last year, now its Brisbane's turn with Aish  8)
Its not just Aish, if you look at who they have lost over the last few years and who else they will be losing this year its pretty bad.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: meow meow on October 08, 2015, 09:47:28 PM
Freeman is leaving the Pies under the same circumstances, it's got nothing to do with being in QLD or not. They're not losing him because of go home factor if he's going to Victoria.

Plus who have they lost? Got Taylor for Yeo so that's not so bad. Docherty was given away cheaply so that's one that hurts a little. Then there's who? A soft outsider like Polec? Karnezis? Oh no!

Getting DAYNE BEAMS, Christensen, Robbo and now Bell means they're well and truly winning in the trading department.

If they could get Seedsman and whatever pick Collingwood get for Freeman but choose to let him walk for nothing they deserve to fold. Maybe Aish is leaving because they're a shower club that whinges all the time instead of getting on with business.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Money Shot on October 08, 2015, 09:51:13 PM
Quote from: meow meow on October 08, 2015, 09:47:28 PM
Freeman is leaving the Pies under the same circumstances, it's got nothing to do with being in QLD or not. They're not losing him because of go home factor if he's going to Victoria.

Plus who have they lost? Got Taylor for Yeo so that's not so bad. Docherty was given away cheaply so that's one that hurts a little. Then there's who? A soft outsider like Polec? Karnezis? Oh no!

Getting DAYNE BEAMS, Christensen, Robbo and now Bell means they're well and truly winning in the trading department.

If they could get Seedsman and whatever pick Collingwood get for Freeman but choose to let him walk for nothing they deserve to fold. Maybe Aish is leaving because they're a shower club that whinges all the time instead of getting on with business.
I was just thinking that! Why would you let someone go in the draft for no return when you could get a decent player or pick for him!?
Oh well ...
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Ricochet on October 08, 2015, 10:20:08 PM
Quote from: meow meow on October 08, 2015, 09:47:28 PM
Freeman is leaving the Pies under the same circumstances, it's got nothing to do with being in QLD or not. They're not losing him because of go home factor if he's going to Victoria.

Plus who have they lost? Got Taylor for Yeo so that's not so bad. Docherty was given away cheaply so that's one that hurts a little. Then there's who? A soft outsider like Polec? Karnezis? Oh no!

Getting DAYNE BEAMS, Christensen, Robbo and now Bell means they're well and truly winning in the trading department.

If they could get Seedsman and whatever pick Collingwood get for Freeman but choose to let him walk for nothing they deserve to fold. Maybe Aish is leaving because they're a shower club that whinges all the time instead of getting on with business.
Great minds meow...

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Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Football Factory on October 08, 2015, 10:34:23 PM
GOLD Coast is "optimistic" of bringing Paul Seedsman and Jeremy Howe to the club in the upcoming NAB Trade Period, football operations manager Marcus Ashcroft says.

He also confirmed that Daniel Gorringe would likely move on from the Suns after playing just two matches this season.

Ashcroft said the club would try and facilitate a move back to South Australia after Gorringe failed to get to Port Adelaide last year.


http://www.afl.com.au/news/2015-10-08/suns-optimistic-on-landing-seedsman-and-howe
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Mat0369 on October 08, 2015, 10:47:07 PM
In regards to Lennon, he is not a tall forward, he is a medium sized guy. I am not opposed to the trade because we still need those sort of players in the side. He hasn't got the size of a Jack Gunston and would probably replace Bell if we lose him. I am not totally opposed to the move but I wouldn't want to be giving up a pick considering Yaz is the best player in the trade. We effectively get the first rounder we were after but it is in the form of a player instead of a pick.

I am more interested in the Hawks deal. I reckon that the Hawks would be the best place for Yaz to go for his footy. Their first round pick would be a done deal but it would be interesting to see if Bolton is interested in bringing a few of those Hawks fringe guys to Carlton. We have guys like Anderson, Litherland and maybe even Schoenmakers that might be looking for a more consistent senior opportunity. Someone like Schoenmakers would be less likely to go considering he just played in a premiership but he is still in that fringe range. Maybe a combo of picks and players from either side would get the deal done but it would be interesting to see what Hawthorn would part with.

Quote from: Money Shot on October 08, 2015, 09:06:46 PM
If Aish requested collingwood is there any point in us picking him up in the pre season draft? (Us being Carlton)

Also, if Brisbane doesn't trade and let's him go to the preseason draft do they get anything in return?

It's the Nick Stevens situation. Basically Port and Pies couldn't get a deal done, he wanted out of Port so figured he would play for us. Same deal with Aish, if he wants out of Brisbane he will come to us quite happily

Quote from: Money Shot on October 08, 2015, 01:30:00 PM
Casboult and Bell for Aish and pick 21 was talked about on trade radio this morning ...

As a Carlton fan I would not like that unless we get both of Lennon and Walker (Gee) in as we need the tall forwards ...
Lennon would be a good 10 year player for us ... Not so keen on walker but I guess he is young and has some potential...


Also found this interesting with the rumors of Levi being potential trade bait

Quote from: Mat0369 on May 11, 2015, 10:06:24 PM
Simmo is worth nothing due to his age, Walker has a dodgy knee and a history of shoulder issues and will be 30 next year, you would be lucky to get 2nd round picks for both. Mick won't be there so he has no say on Daisy, you will probably have to pay a large chunk of his contract like the Dogs are with Griff, I already said he is the guy I would look at moving to somewhere like GWS in hopes of getting one of Shiel/Treloar with a couple of other pieces. Jamo is one I would also look at moving but like Simmo and Walker he is in the wrong bracket in terms of age.

The guys we have to deal away have to be in the Kreuz, Murph, Gibbs, Hendo, Levi, Yaz and Warnock. 6 of those hold value but you can probably only afford to trade two or three at the most. You can blow up your core but you need to keep a couple for leadership purposes. Right now Kreuz, Levi, Warnock and maybe Hendo are the ones I would look at moving. You can probably get a late 2nd early 3rd for Warnock (a pick after 30) considering what we got for Hammer. Levi should net us Aish if we are after him considering he is the type of player the Lions are after. Maybe we swap 2nd and 3rd round picks as well (we give the 2nd they give a 3rd). I thought Kreuz, Thomas and maybe another older player (Walker/Jamo) to the Giants for Treloar/Shiel and a swap of firsts and the Giants 2nd. Hendo would get you a first so you can still keep a few of those key players to help bring through the younger kids. Maybe you can offload one of those 2nd round picks to get a Gorringe or Nicholls from the Suns

Effectively that would be out

Kreuz
Warnock
Levi
Hendo
Thomas
Walker/Jamo
1st round pick
2nd round pick
2nd round pick

In

Treloar/Shiel
Nicholls/Gorringe
2 first rounders
1 2nd rounder
1 3rd rounder

Based on contract you can't dump Gibbs this year since we just gave him a team friendly deal last year, maybe next year you look at it and see if he can net you a player and a pick

Quote from: Spite on May 12, 2015, 01:14:07 AM
Hey Mat, explain to me why you would want to get rid of Levi? Just good value atm?

I would think he is someone you build your core of players off no? But if he had to be involved in a deal for Aish...then you've got to get Aish.

I just can't see you guys getting rid of Murphy, even if I think that it will benefit your club...

I know you said you can't dump Gibbs... but he is the one that needs to go and you could get a seriously good young player like Treloar for him.

Which players are untouchable do you think? Bell, Buckley, Cripps and Menzel? All the rest are fair game?


Quote from: Mat0369 on May 12, 2015, 01:45:29 AM
Levi is already 25 and is only 3 months younger then Hendo. If you are considering trading Hendo you have to consider trading Levi. I love him, I think if he could ever fix that kicking he could be one of the most dominant forwards in the league, but when you look at a guy like Cloke who is a few years older and still struggling with the same issues you would look at Levi as a trade chip. I think Mick is a moron for dropping him, he needs to play games and he has been a crap load better then Jones all year, yet Jones still plays.

Aish is also the type of player we need, he is that outside ball user we can sit on the wing and if all it takes is Levi to get him pull the trigger. I wouldn't trade both Levi and Hendo in the one season now that I think about it because that will leave us with 0 key forwards on the list, but whichever of the two yields the best return I would do it.

Untouchables are the guys you listed, throw in Jaksch and Docherty. Unfortunately that core isn't deep enough which is why you need to add guys like potentially Aish, Treloar/Shiel, a young ruck and some good young KPP's. The Irish boys in Byrne and Sheehan have also looked good, you have a few other mids but you are lacking in key stocks and small forwards.

And no Walker is not a replacement, dude can stay in Geelong. The fact that Hendo is gone makes me not want to do the deal. We need Levi since we have no other key forwards.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: powersuperkents on October 08, 2015, 10:56:56 PM
Quote from: meow meow on October 08, 2015, 09:47:28 PM
Freeman is leaving the Pies under the same circumstances, it's got nothing to do with being in QLD or not. They're not losing him because of go home factor if he's going to Victoria.

Plus who have they lost? Got Taylor for Yeo so that's not so bad. Docherty was given away cheaply so that's one that hurts a little. Then there's who? A soft outsider like Polec? Karnezis? Oh no!

Getting DAYNE BEAMS, Christensen, Robbo and now Bell means they're well and truly winning in the trading department.

If they could get Seedsman and whatever pick Collingwood get for Freeman but choose to let him walk for nothing they deserve to fold. Maybe Aish is leaving because they're a shower club that whinges all the time instead of getting on with business.
@Meow Meow & Rico - they are actually fair points. I think we have focused too much on the fact that they were traded 2nd round picks, or later picks, and not enough on the players they recruited with them (they have actually done really well in the draft).

My only complaint... is your disparaging comment on a future Brownlow medalist  :P (It's early days, and I'm pretty bias when it comes to Port, but in all seriousness, Polec is a class above champs when fit)
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Money Shot on October 08, 2015, 10:57:23 PM
Everett Walker (Gee) Lennon
Aish     Casboult        Menzel

Looks like a good forward line to me ;)
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Big Mac on October 08, 2015, 11:19:00 PM
Quote from: Money Shot on October 08, 2015, 10:57:23 PM
Everett Walker (Gee) Lennon
Aish     Casboult        Menzel

Looks like a good forward line to me ;)

2/10 no liam jones
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Toga on October 08, 2015, 11:28:25 PM
Quote from: Mat0369 on October 08, 2015, 10:47:07 PM
In regards to Lennon, he is not a tall forward, he is a medium sized guy. I am not opposed to the trade because we still need those sort of players in the side. He hasn't got the size of a Jack Gunston and would probably replace Bell if we lose him.

He's actually a very similar size to Gunston: 190cm/79kg vs 193cm/81kg

I'm hopeful Richmond retain him, cllub has already said that he won't be included as a part of the Yarran deal.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Ringo on October 08, 2015, 11:42:44 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on October 08, 2015, 08:04:52 PM
Quote from: Jukes on October 08, 2015, 08:01:14 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on October 08, 2015, 07:48:05 PM
I feel sorry for Brisbane. This wanting to go home rubbish is such an easy cop out to leave. Teams invest years into kids when they arrive, and then they just leave. It's just not right and something needs to change

I agree, players are such little doges now

Shocked that Jukes actually agrees with something here :P

These kids get drafted and it's the best day of their lives, then a couple of years in the system and they just think they don't owe the club anything and pack up and leave. Hopefully a change or rules around this are introduced eventually
Agree 100% RD - Starting to wonder why we need free agency when young kids who have been in the system for only 2/3 years can request trades to nominated clubs. Note it is not only happening with Brisbane but a number of clubs. Time for some reasonable guidelines to be put in place for the amount of development clubs put into players.

If Brisbane still had Academy picks we would get rid of the go home factor.

An interesting fact if Aish goes to Carlton they will have more 1st Round Lions draft picks than Lions themselves. 
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Mat0369 on October 08, 2015, 11:51:11 PM
Quote from: Big  Mac on October 08, 2015, 11:19:00 PM
2/10 no liam jones

Spud Walker replaces Spud Jones in that lineup.

Quote from: Toga on October 08, 2015, 11:28:25 PM

He's actually a very similar size to Gunston: 190cm/79kg vs 193cm/81kg

I'm hopeful Richmond retain him, cllub has already said that he won't be included as a part of the Yarran deal.

Gunston is a little taller but he is the prototype for the second/third tall at the moment due to his versatility. I actually looked up the heights before posting and saw Lennon had a growth spurt, still 3 cm might not seem like a lot but while Gunston is quite lean he is the bigger unit.

In comparison Lennon is the same size as Cripps/Fyfe. I would say Gunston also has a larger wingspan which helps him overhead and allows him to play out of full forward and on the key defenders. Lennon wouldn't be able to do that and is more that midfield/half forward size similar to what we had Bell play all year.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Mat0369 on October 08, 2015, 11:54:30 PM
Quote from: Ringo on October 08, 2015, 11:42:44 PM
An interesting fact if Aish goes to Carlton they will have more 1st Round Lions draft picks than Lions themselves.

2?
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Money Shot on October 09, 2015, 12:00:16 AM
Quote from: Mat0369 on October 08, 2015, 11:54:30 PM
Quote from: Ringo on October 08, 2015, 11:42:44 PM
An interesting fact if Aish goes to Carlton they will have more 1st Round Lions draft picks than Lions themselves.

2?
Was cam wood first round? ::)
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Mat0369 on October 09, 2015, 12:09:49 AM
Quote from: Money Shot on October 09, 2015, 12:00:16 AM
Was cam wood first round? ::)

So was Hendo, but both he and Wood are gone so that would leave Aish and Docherty
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: kilbluff1985 on October 09, 2015, 12:10:50 AM
Dodoro and Saints list manager talking deals at AFL combine


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Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Bill Manspeaker on October 09, 2015, 12:18:35 AM
you could call that 'A meet'

8)
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: meow meow on October 09, 2015, 01:08:12 AM
Quote from: Ringo on October 08, 2015, 11:42:44 PM
If Brisbane still had Academy picks we would get rid of the go home factor.

Um, you do still have academy picks.

Quote from: powersuperkents on October 08, 2015, 10:56:56 PM
@Meow Meow & Rico - they are actually fair points. I think we have focused too much on the fact that they were traded 2nd round picks, or later picks, and not enough on the players they recruited with them (they have actually done really well in the draft).

Yeo only cost the Lions a second round pick originally (Harbrow compo pick that they got for Sherman :'(). Longer had not shown anything to suggest that he was worth a first round pick (still hasn't) and the Lions are better off with McStay. Polec hadn't done a thing. Docherty was the only one that was still worth a first round pick when he was traded out, the others lost value because of their performance so clubs would be crazy to pay the same as Brisbane did. It's like Plowman at GWS, nobody will give up pick 3 for him now because he's simply not worth that much anymore.


Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Mat0369 on October 09, 2015, 01:23:05 AM
I reckon Billy Longer was pretty good this year. He isn't elite but he showed a bit and is only 22. He will hit his prime in a few years and that is when we will get a good judge of how good a player he really is. The thing is had they not traded Longer they wouldn't have been forced to play Stef Martin.

I agree though that the collective of guys they brought in is better then the guys they have lost. I made the same point when the Redden news first came out.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: _wato on October 09, 2015, 01:31:11 AM
Aish + Treloar for Collingwood would be a huge offseason in terms of trading.

I'd be happy to then sit and back and let the next 2-3 years unfold, because without being bias we are building a mighty impressive list with players all over the ground. Will be a premiership threat by 2017-2018 I think.

Toovey, Frost, Brown
Williams, Reid, Langdon
Sidebottom, Treloar, Adams
Elliott, Moore, Swan
Crisp, Cloke, Grundy
Witts, Pendlebury, Greenwood
Aish, De Goey, Varcoe, Scharenberg, Fasolo, Oxley, Broomhead, Macaffer, Marsh plus others

That looks unreaaaaal, 10 top 20 picks (Aish, Shaz, De Goey, Treloar, Adams, Pendles, Sidey, Broomhead, Grundy, Reid, Elliot (first round pick trade), who are all super talented. The future looks very very bright
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Mat0369 on October 09, 2015, 01:34:33 AM
Actually I want to make a couple of other points on rucks. Just for perspective, Billy Longer was traded with pick 48 for 41 and 25.

In the same trade period

Mummy was traded for pick 35
Big Boy for pick 18 and Savage
Hammer for pick 32
Jesse White for pick 44
Trent West for pick 41
Josh Bruce (kind of odd but I guess it counts) for pick 48

Mummy for that pick is pretty ridiculous so I can't complain if I am Brisbane with that trade considering the context of how rucks were valued in the time frame.

For example even their value in the draft had also taken a huge hit and teams were looking at only bringing in more experienced players at the position. Excluding Daniher in 2012 since he was a father son and looked at as more of a forward, the number one ruck prospect in that draft was Grundy and he was taken at pick 18, the following year Apeness was the first ruck at pick 17.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Mat0369 on October 09, 2015, 01:37:31 AM
Quote from: _wato on October 09, 2015, 01:31:11 AM
That looks unreaaaaal, 10 top 20 picks (Aish, Shaz, De Goey, Treloar, Adams, Pendles, Sidey, Broomhead, Grundy, Reid, Elliot (first round pick trade), who are all super talented. The future looks very very bright

Pity Cloke is still a potato  :P
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Money Shot on October 09, 2015, 01:40:30 AM
Quote from: _wato on October 09, 2015, 01:31:11 AM
Aish + Treloar for Collingwood would be a huge offseason in terms of trading.

I'd be happy to then sit and back and let the next 2-3 years unfold, because without being bias we are building a mighty impressive list with players all over the ground. Will be a premiership threat by 2017-2018 I think.

Toovey, Frost, Brown
Williams, Reid, Langdon
Sidebottom, Treloar, Adams
Elliott, Moore, Swan
Crisp, Cloke, Grundy
Witts, Pendlebury, Greenwood
Aish, De Goey, Varcoe, Scharenberg, Fasolo, Oxley, Broomhead, Macaffer, Marsh plus others

That looks unreaaaaal, 10 top 20 picks (Aish, Shaz, De Goey, Treloar, Adams, Pendles, Sidey, Broomhead, Grundy, Reid, Elliot (first round pick trade), who are all super talented. The future looks very very bright
Shame that Aish is going to carlton 8)
But that could be a premiership contender next year :o
What about Grundy?
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Mat0369 on October 09, 2015, 01:54:05 AM
Quote from: Money Shot on October 09, 2015, 01:40:30 AM
What about Grundy?

Read the name next to super spud
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: powersuperkents on October 09, 2015, 02:24:31 AM
Quote from: Mat0369 on October 09, 2015, 01:34:33 AM
Actually I want to make a couple of other points on rucks. Just for perspective, Billy Longer was traded with pick 48 for 41 and 25.

In the same trade period

Mummy was traded for pick 35
Big Boy for pick 18 and Savage
Hammer for pick 32
Jesse White for pick 44
Trent West for pick 41
Josh Bruce (kind of odd but I guess it counts) for pick 48

Mummy for that pick is pretty ridiculous so I can't complain if I am Brisbane with that trade considering the context of how rucks were valued in the time frame.

For example even their value in the draft had also taken a huge hit and teams were looking at only bringing in more experienced players at the position. Excluding Daniher in 2012 since he was a father son and looked at as more of a forward, the number one ruck prospect in that draft was Grundy and he was taken at pick 18, the following year Apeness was the first ruck at pick 17.
Just out of interest, who is 'Hammer'?

SA fans associate the sobriquet 'Hammer' with a specific player (just want to know who Victorians associate the name with)
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: JBs-Hawks on October 09, 2015, 02:56:04 AM
The lucky guy that hammers Megan Gale
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Mat0369 on October 09, 2015, 03:03:43 AM
Quote from: JBs-Hawks on October 09, 2015, 02:56:04 AM
The lucky guy that hammers Megan Gale

This

Shaun 'Hammer Time' Hampson
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Ringo on October 09, 2015, 09:39:51 AM
Quote from: meow meow on October 09, 2015, 01:08:12 AM
Quote from: Ringo on October 08, 2015, 11:42:44 PM
If Brisbane still had Academy picks we would get rid of the go home factor.

Um, you do still have academy picks.

Agree we still do but now due to Victorians agitation we have to match bids for them rather than having the priority access we have had previously. So expect and first or second rounders we receive to secure Keays and Hipwood. Interestingly now that we are starting to see benefits from the academy restrictions start to get placed on us. Andrews and freeman are the first academy to play Senior football for us.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: meow meow on October 09, 2015, 11:20:28 AM
Dogs interested in giving Bian Lake a part time specialist coaching gig. With Talia on the way out we should offer him a year or two and make him reconsider retiring. He's still good enough.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: RaisyDaisy on October 09, 2015, 11:28:35 AM
Carlton are now in the race for Treloar.

Hampton to Adelaide is more or less done now
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: RaisyDaisy on October 09, 2015, 11:31:08 AM
Mike Pyke is set to retire after the B&F according to afl.com.au

Still has a year to run on his contract, but leaving early helps Sydney's chance of getting Luey
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: RaisyDaisy on October 09, 2015, 11:59:12 AM
Apparently Freo will be offering GWS their first round pick for the next 2 years for McCarthy
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Money Shot on October 09, 2015, 12:09:51 PM
Quote from: meow meow on October 09, 2015, 11:20:28 AM
Dogs interested in giving Bian Lake a part time specialist coaching gig. With Talia on the way out we should offer him a year or two and make him reconsider retiring. He's still good enough.
I like it! Give him a year to be a playing mentor for the younger dogs then give him a coaching role!
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Money Shot on October 09, 2015, 12:11:48 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on October 09, 2015, 11:28:35 AM
Carlton are now in the race for Treloar.

Hampton to Adelaide is more or less done now
Walker and Geelongs pick 28 for Henderson
We then give pick 20, 28 and our first round next year for Treloar!?

That seems good to me ...
Keeps pick 1 for Weightering as well!
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: RaisyDaisy on October 09, 2015, 12:14:35 PM
20, 28 and next years first rounder is not enough IMO for Treloar

If I'm Carlton, I'm offering this years first pick you have in a heart beat

If Tyson fetched Melbourne's Pick 3, Treloar is easily worth that or better and GWS would demand that surely
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Football Factory on October 09, 2015, 12:17:10 PM
Quote from: Money Shot on October 09, 2015, 01:40:30 AM
Quote from: _wato on October 09, 2015, 01:31:11 AM
Aish + Treloar for Collingwood would be a huge offseason in terms of trading.

I'd be happy to then sit and back and let the next 2-3 years unfold, because without being bias we are building a mighty impressive list with players all over the ground. Will be a premiership threat by 2017-2018 I think.

Toovey, Frost, Brown
Williams, Reid, Langdon
Sidebottom, Treloar, Adams
Elliott, Moore, Swan
Crisp, Cloke, Grundy
Witts, Pendlebury, Greenwood
Aish, De Goey, Varcoe, Scharenberg, Fasolo, Oxley, Broomhead, Macaffer, Marsh plus others

That looks unreaaaaal, 10 top 20 picks (Aish, Shaz, De Goey, Treloar, Adams, Pendles, Sidey, Broomhead, Grundy, Reid, Elliot (first round pick trade), who are all super talented. The future looks very very bright
Shame that Aish is going to carlton 8)
But that could be a premiership contender next year :o
What about Grundy?

Not sure if this has been posted yet ?


Carlton swooping on Treloar

Adam Treloar's wish to move to Collingwood via a trade reportedly hit a roadblock on Thursday when rival clubs ramped up their bid to snare him from Greater Western Sydney.

Carlton was said to be among the clubs inquiring about Treloar to the midfielder's management, according to the Herald Sun. It is also reported that GWS is open to dealing with clubs other than Collingwood.

"We will deal with whoever can offer us the best possible deal," a Giants spokesperson said.

The Herald Sun reported the Magpies were prepared to offer GWS this year's No.7 pick in the NAB AFL Draft as well as a second-round selection from next year's draft.

However, Carlton's offer to Treloar, who grew up supporting the Blues, would be more generous financially.


http://www.afl.com.au/news/2015-10-09/trade-winds-treloar-trade-takes-a-big-twist
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Football Factory on October 09, 2015, 12:18:28 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on October 09, 2015, 11:28:35 AM
Carlton are now in the race for Treloar.

Hampton to Adelaide is more or less done now

Ahh Raisy did
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: meow meow on October 09, 2015, 12:19:16 PM
It's enough. 20 and 28 is enough points to secure Kennedy under the academy bidding, and keep in mind next year's first rounder will be #1-3

Melbourne gave up 2 and 20 for Tyson and pick 9 (Salem) so it wasn't just a straight swap.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Mat0369 on October 09, 2015, 12:21:17 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on October 09, 2015, 12:14:35 PM
20, 28 and next years first rounder is not enough IMO for Treloar

If I'm Carlton, I'm offering this years first pick you have in a heart beat

If Tyson fetched Melbourne's Pick 3, Treloar is easily worth that or better and GWS would demand that surely

Melbourne also got pick 9 in return in that trade.

Carlton intend on a couple of first round picks for Yaz and Hendo (not Josh Walker), I think they on trade these picks as part of the deal along with a player as a set of steak knives. We then use pick 20 as part of the deal for Plowman and co while using the Bell pick for father son selections. We will likely need our 2nd and 3rd round picks for Rice and Jack Silvagni
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Nige on October 09, 2015, 12:36:54 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on October 09, 2015, 12:14:35 PM
20, 28 and next years first rounder is not enough IMO for Treloar

If I'm Carlton, I'm offering this years first pick you have in a heart beat

If Tyson fetched Melbourne's Pick 3, Treloar is easily worth that or better and GWS would demand that surely
They'lk get Weitering with Pick 1. I daresay they need him more than they need Treloar.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Football Factory on October 09, 2015, 12:49:03 PM
Freo's big McCarthy offer

Dockers' next two first-round picks on offer for Giant, manager says

Is two first-round draft picks - one this year and one next - too much for the Dockers to offer the Giants for Cam McCarthy?

http://www.afl.com.au/news/2015-10-09/dockers-to-offer-two-firstround-picks-for-giant-mccarthy



Well there not very high draft picks are they .. almost like 2 second rounders  :-X
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: shaker on October 09, 2015, 12:49:55 PM
As we have seen there are no sure things in the draft even No1 if they can get Treloar the Blues would be crazy to let him slip is what I'm thinking
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: powersuperkents on October 09, 2015, 01:03:06 PM
Quote from: Mat0369 on October 09, 2015, 03:03:43 AM
Quote from: JBs-Hawks on October 09, 2015, 02:56:04 AM
The lucky guy that hammers Megan Gale

This

Shaun 'Hammer Time' Hampson
I see  :P

Hamish 'Hammer' Hartlett > Shaun 'Hammer' Hampson

Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: powersuperkents on October 09, 2015, 01:05:43 PM
Also my prediction for first trade

The Crows have been reasonable in this negotiation process

Curtly Hampton for 2nd rounder

The Crows could strain things along by initially asking to only give  a 3rd rounder so I see this trade being one that will be quickly completely and makes both clubs happy. I would say it's as good as done already.

First trade; Curly Hampton to the Crows
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: SydneyRox on October 09, 2015, 01:14:57 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on October 09, 2015, 11:31:08 AM
Mike Pyke is set to retire after the B&F according to afl.com.au

Still has a year to run on his contract, but leaving early helps Sydney's chance of getting Luey

Yeah, this should get Berger over the line. Interesting to see if we push for Sinclair as well or take a 1st round pick for Jetta to help pay for mills and hopefully Dunkley
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: meow meow on October 09, 2015, 01:15:25 PM
Quote from: Nige on October 09, 2015, 12:36:54 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on October 09, 2015, 12:14:35 PM
20, 28 and next years first rounder is not enough IMO for Treloar

If I'm Carlton, I'm offering this years first pick you have in a heart beat

If Tyson fetched Melbourne's Pick 3, Treloar is easily worth that or better and GWS would demand that surely
They'lk get Weitering with Pick 1. I daresay they need him more than they need Treloar.

Carlton can have both! Their 2nd rounder (20) + a second rounder from the Yarran or Hendo deals, plus next year's first round pick to GWS for Treloar. They'll still keep pick 1 this year.

GWS will be able to use their own first and second rounders to get Hopper, and with the other 2nd rounders they'll be able to grab Kennedy.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Football Factory on October 09, 2015, 01:19:40 PM
Quote from: powersuperkents on October 09, 2015, 01:05:43 PM
Also my prediction for first trade

The Crows have been reasonable in this negotiation process

Curtly Hampton for 2nd rounder

The Crows could strain things along by initially asking to only give  a 3rd rounder so I see this trade being one that will be quickly completely and makes both clubs happy. I would say it's as good as done already.

First trade; Curly Hampton to the Crows

Think I read somewhere very recently that they reckon he might be the first trade  ;D
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: elephants on October 09, 2015, 01:25:39 PM
Praying we dont give our first rounder for Jetta. Please be a second #lowballfordays
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Money Shot on October 09, 2015, 01:26:40 PM
Quote from: shaker on October 09, 2015, 12:49:55 PM
As we have seen there are no sure things in the draft even No1 if they can get Treloar the Blues would be crazy to let him slip is what I'm thinking
Our current KPDs are Jamison (injury prone and getting old) and Rowe who is a spud in my opinion ... I would be picking Weightering over Treloar if I was them!
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: shaker on October 09, 2015, 01:35:18 PM
Quote from: Money Shot on October 09, 2015, 01:26:40 PM
Quote from: shaker on October 09, 2015, 12:49:55 PM
As we have seen there are no sure things in the draft even No1 if they can get Treloar the Blues would be crazy to let him slip is what I'm thinking
Our current KPDs are Jamison (injury prone and getting old) and Rowe who is a spud in my opinion ... I would be picking Weightering over Treloar if I was them!

Weightering comes with big wraps and rightfully so but so did Watts Trengrove and Scully players like Treloar don't come around very often , think if you get a chance to grab someone like him you just do it and as meow said you might be able to have your cake and eat it to  ;)
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: RaisyDaisy on October 09, 2015, 01:36:53 PM
Bit harsh on Rowe MS! He's going alright for his age

And Ele, I've heard we are only offering a 2nd or 3rd rounder for Jetta and that it would be enough  ;D
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: elephants on October 09, 2015, 01:46:33 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on October 09, 2015, 01:36:53 PM
And Ele, I've heard we are only offering a 2nd or 3rd rounder for Jetta and that it would be enough  ;D

Wonderful!

Now we just need to convince Brisbane to take our Scooter compo for Redden and we're set! :')

(oh, and convince Harley that Freo is a showerhole) :p
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Money Shot on October 09, 2015, 01:51:59 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on October 09, 2015, 01:36:53 PM
Bit harsh on Rowe MS! He's going alright for his age

And Ele, I've heard we are only offering a 2nd or 3rd rounder for Jetta and that it would be enough  ;D
Yeah I know it's a bit harsh but I don't think he would get a gig at any other club apart from Carlton IMO
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Football Factory on October 09, 2015, 02:01:42 PM
GOLD Coast is making a strong play for North Melbourne support ruckman Daniel Currie as it seeks a replacement for Zac Smith.

http://www.afl.com.au/news/2015-10-09/suns-heat-up-their-pursuit-of-kangaroos-ruckman
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: TomK on October 09, 2015, 02:04:42 PM
(http://cdndata.bigfooty.com/2015/10/181539_51e6f74249313868a443e7e89ab5d68e.jpeg)

Coaching announcement?
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Ricochet on October 09, 2015, 02:07:13 PM
Yep, Pyke just confirmed
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Ricochet on October 09, 2015, 02:17:53 PM
QuotePatrick Dangerfield's manager Paul Connors has told media at the Madden Medal ceremony that the deal between the Crows and Cats could be done quickly, with Adelaide potentially not going to match the offer set by the Cats.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Purple 77 on October 09, 2015, 02:23:18 PM
Quote from: shaker on October 09, 2015, 01:35:18 PM
Quote from: Money Shot on October 09, 2015, 01:26:40 PM
Quote from: shaker on October 09, 2015, 12:49:55 PM
As we have seen there are no sure things in the draft even No1 if they can get Treloar the Blues would be crazy to let him slip is what I'm thinking
Our current KPDs are Jamison (injury prone and getting old) and Rowe who is a spud in my opinion ... I would be picking Weightering over Treloar if I was them!

Weightering comes with big wraps and rightfully so but so did Watts Trengrove and Scully players like Treloar don't come around very often , think if you get a chance to grab someone like him you just do it and as meow said you might be able to have your cake and eat it to  ;)

Who is that guy?

No one by that name at Melbourne...

(sorry, bit of a pet peeve of mine...)
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Bill Manspeaker on October 09, 2015, 02:28:50 PM
Quote from: Purple 77 on October 09, 2015, 02:23:18 PM
Quote from: shaker on October 09, 2015, 01:35:18 PM
Quote from: Money Shot on October 09, 2015, 01:26:40 PM
Quote from: shaker on October 09, 2015, 12:49:55 PM
As we have seen there are no sure things in the draft even No1 if they can get Treloar the Blues would be crazy to let him slip is what I'm thinking
Our current KPDs are Jamison (injury prone and getting old) and Rowe who is a spud in my opinion ... I would be picking Weightering over Treloar if I was them!

Weightering comes with big wraps and rightfully so but so did Watts Trengrove and Scully players like Treloar don't come around very often , think if you get a chance to grab someone like him you just do it and as meow said you might be able to have your cake and eat it to  ;)

Who is that guy?

No one by that name at Melbourne...

(sorry, bit of a pet peeve of mine...)

also not sure what a Weightering is :P (although that's probably an auto correct)
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Money Shot on October 09, 2015, 02:33:32 PM
Quote from: Bill Manspeaker on October 09, 2015, 02:28:50 PM
Quote from: Purple 77 on October 09, 2015, 02:23:18 PM
Quote from: shaker on October 09, 2015, 01:35:18 PM
Quote from: Money Shot on October 09, 2015, 01:26:40 PM
Quote from: shaker on October 09, 2015, 12:49:55 PM
As we have seen there are no sure things in the draft even No1 if they can get Treloar the Blues would be crazy to let him slip is what I'm thinking
Our current KPDs are Jamison (injury prone and getting old) and Rowe who is a spud in my opinion ... I would be picking Weightering over Treloar if I was them!

Weightering comes with big wraps and rightfully so but so did Watts Trengrove and Scully players like Treloar don't come around very often , think if you get a chance to grab someone like him you just do it and as meow said you might be able to have your cake and eat it to  ;)

Who is that guy?

No one by that name at Melbourne...

(sorry, bit of a pet peeve of mine...)

also not sure what a Weightering is :P (although that's probably an auto correct)
Ahahaha my bad :P
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Mat0369 on October 09, 2015, 02:34:27 PM
Quote from: Bill Manspeaker on October 09, 2015, 02:28:50 PM
also not sure what a Weightering is :P (although that's probably an auto correct)

It's the same as a Jack Stevens or a Koby Steven
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Purple 77 on October 09, 2015, 02:38:55 PM
Quote from: Mat0369 on October 09, 2015, 02:34:27 PM
Quote from: Bill Manspeaker on October 09, 2015, 02:28:50 PM
also not sure what a Weightering is :P (although that's probably an auto correct)

It's the same as a Jack Stevens or a Koby Steven

LOL! Was about to say the same thing haha
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Bill Manspeaker on October 09, 2015, 02:45:34 PM
Quote from: Purple 77 on October 09, 2015, 02:38:55 PM
Quote from: Mat0369 on October 09, 2015, 02:34:27 PM
Quote from: Bill Manspeaker on October 09, 2015, 02:28:50 PM
also not sure what a Weightering is :P (although that's probably an auto correct)

It's the same as a Jack Stevens or a Koby Steven

LOL! Was about to say the same thing haha

haha god dammit

I wonder if anyone has called him Koby Steven before
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: SydneyRox on October 09, 2015, 02:54:59 PM
Quote from: elephants on October 09, 2015, 01:25:39 PM
Praying we dont give our first rounder for Jetta. Please be a second #lowballfordays

I heard the boys on sportsfm here in WA hearing that Eagles were offering Sinclair and Pick 38 (something rnd there)

So your 1st round probably works better for you!
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: powersuperkents on October 09, 2015, 03:02:14 PM
Quote from: SydneyRox on October 09, 2015, 02:54:59 PM
Quote from: elephants on October 09, 2015, 01:25:39 PM
Praying we dont give our first rounder for Jetta. Please be a second #lowballfordays

I heard the boys on sportsfm here in WA hearing that Eagles were offering Sinclair and Pick 38 (something rnd there)

So your 1st round probably works better for you!
+1

It's not like the Eagles first rounder is valuable (rather Sinclair over pick 17 in a shallow draft where most of the talent consists of academy kids).
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: elephants on October 09, 2015, 03:06:50 PM
Quote from: SydneyRox on October 09, 2015, 02:54:59 PM
Quote from: elephants on October 09, 2015, 01:25:39 PM
Praying we dont give our first rounder for Jetta. Please be a second #lowballfordays

I heard the boys on sportsfm here in WA hearing that Eagles were offering Sinclair and Pick 38 (something rnd there)

So your 1st round probably works better for you!

Media garbage!

Anyone with half a brain can see Sinclair is an integral part of our 22. Literally no other player on our list can play his role, especially not Lycett.

Jetta is good, but he's not worth sacrificing an irreplaceable player for.

Our list management team has always been very astute, cant see anything like that occurring.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Pkbaldy on October 09, 2015, 03:12:25 PM
Quote from: powersuperkents on October 09, 2015, 03:02:14 PM
Quote from: SydneyRox on October 09, 2015, 02:54:59 PM
Quote from: elephants on October 09, 2015, 01:25:39 PM
Praying we dont give our first rounder for Jetta. Please be a second #lowballfordays

I heard the boys on sportsfm here in WA hearing that Eagles were offering Sinclair and Pick 38 (something rnd there)

So your 1st round probably works better for you!
+1

It's not like the Eagles first rounder is valuable (rather Sinclair over pick 17 in a shallow draft where most of the talent consists of academy kids).

2015 draft goes shallow at 30, not 17 mate.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Toga on October 09, 2015, 03:37:11 PM
Quote from: meow meow on October 09, 2015, 01:15:25 PM
Quote from: Nige on October 09, 2015, 12:36:54 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on October 09, 2015, 12:14:35 PM
20, 28 and next years first rounder is not enough IMO for Treloar

If I'm Carlton, I'm offering this years first pick you have in a heart beat

If Tyson fetched Melbourne's Pick 3, Treloar is easily worth that or better and GWS would demand that surely
They'lk get Weitering with Pick 1. I daresay they need him more than they need Treloar.

Carlton can have both! Their 2nd rounder (20) + a second rounder from the Yarran or Hendo deals, plus next year's first round pick to GWS for Treloar. They'll still keep pick 1 this year.

GWS will be able to use their own first and second rounders to get Hopper, and with the other 2nd rounders they'll be able to grab Kennedy.

Imagine that, nabbing Treloar, potentially Aish in the PSD, and Weitering. Would be a huge coup for the Blues.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Pkbaldy on October 09, 2015, 03:41:22 PM
Quote from: Toga on October 09, 2015, 03:37:11 PM
Quote from: meow meow on October 09, 2015, 01:15:25 PM
Quote from: Nige on October 09, 2015, 12:36:54 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on October 09, 2015, 12:14:35 PM
20, 28 and next years first rounder is not enough IMO for Treloar

If I'm Carlton, I'm offering this years first pick you have in a heart beat

If Tyson fetched Melbourne's Pick 3, Treloar is easily worth that or better and GWS would demand that surely
They'lk get Weitering with Pick 1. I daresay they need him more than they need Treloar.

Carlton can have both! Their 2nd rounder (20) + a second rounder from the Yarran or Hendo deals, plus next year's first round pick to GWS for Treloar. They'll still keep pick 1 this year.

GWS will be able to use their own first and second rounders to get Hopper, and with the other 2nd rounders they'll be able to grab Kennedy.

Imagine that, nabbing Treloar, potentially Aish in the PSD, and Weitering. Would be a huge coup for the Blues.

-Treloar
-Aish
-Weitering
-Plowman
-Lamb
-Sumner
-Rice
-Silvangni

Would be a decent trade/draft period for them if they managed all of those.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Money Shot on October 09, 2015, 03:44:14 PM
Treloars manager just said that he is very confident in Treloar getting to Collingwood.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Ringo on October 09, 2015, 03:54:36 PM
Quote from: Pkbaldy on October 09, 2015, 03:41:22 PM
Quote from: Toga on October 09, 2015, 03:37:11 PM
Quote from: meow meow on October 09, 2015, 01:15:25 PM
Quote from: Nige on October 09, 2015, 12:36:54 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on October 09, 2015, 12:14:35 PM
20, 28 and next years first rounder is not enough IMO for Treloar

If I'm Carlton, I'm offering this years first pick you have in a heart beat

If Tyson fetched Melbourne's Pick 3, Treloar is easily worth that or better and GWS would demand that surely
They'lk get Weitering with Pick 1. I daresay they need him more than they need Treloar.

Carlton can have both! Their 2nd rounder (20) + a second rounder from the Yarran or Hendo deals, plus next year's first round pick to GWS for Treloar. They'll still keep pick 1 this year.

GWS will be able to use their own first and second rounders to get Hopper, and with the other 2nd rounders they'll be able to grab Kennedy.

Imagine that, nabbing Treloar, potentially Aish in the PSD, and Weitering. Would be a huge coup for the Blues.

-Treloar
-Aish
-Weitering
-Plowman
-Lamb
-Sumner
-Rice
-Silvangni

Would be a decent trade/draft period for them if they managed all of those.
Interesting decision though for Blues if Aish nominates for national Draft will they take him at pick 1. (They have the right to nominate either I believe),
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: powersuperkents on October 09, 2015, 03:55:02 PM
Quote from: elephants on October 09, 2015, 03:06:50 PM
Quote from: SydneyRox on October 09, 2015, 02:54:59 PM
Quote from: elephants on October 09, 2015, 01:25:39 PM
Praying we dont give our first rounder for Jetta. Please be a second #lowballfordays

I heard the boys on sportsfm here in WA hearing that Eagles were offering Sinclair and Pick 38 (something rnd there)

So your 1st round probably works better for you!
I thought the Swans would prefer Lycett imo. 3 years younger and could rotate with Nankervis. Also, if they managed to snare Luey, Lycett could be a temporary second ruck (if they got Sinclair, they would intend to play him full-time as he would be close to finishing his career by the time Luey retired).

or are the Swans going for yet another premiership tilt?
Media garbage!

Anyone with half a brain can see Sinclair is an integral part of our 22. Literally no other player on our list can play his role, especially not Lycett.

Jetta is good, but he's not worth sacrificing an irreplaceable player for.

Our list management team has always been very astute, cant see anything like that occurring.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Pkbaldy on October 09, 2015, 03:56:57 PM
Quote from: Ringo on October 09, 2015, 03:54:36 PM
Quote from: Pkbaldy on October 09, 2015, 03:41:22 PM
Quote from: Toga on October 09, 2015, 03:37:11 PM
Quote from: meow meow on October 09, 2015, 01:15:25 PM
Quote from: Nige on October 09, 2015, 12:36:54 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on October 09, 2015, 12:14:35 PM
20, 28 and next years first rounder is not enough IMO for Treloar

If I'm Carlton, I'm offering this years first pick you have in a heart beat

If Tyson fetched Melbourne's Pick 3, Treloar is easily worth that or better and GWS would demand that surely
They'lk get Weitering with Pick 1. I daresay they need him more than they need Treloar.

Carlton can have both! Their 2nd rounder (20) + a second rounder from the Yarran or Hendo deals, plus next year's first round pick to GWS for Treloar. They'll still keep pick 1 this year.

GWS will be able to use their own first and second rounders to get Hopper, and with the other 2nd rounders they'll be able to grab Kennedy.

Imagine that, nabbing Treloar, potentially Aish in the PSD, and Weitering. Would be a huge coup for the Blues.

-Treloar
-Aish
-Weitering
-Plowman
-Lamb
-Sumner
-Rice
-Silvangni

Would be a decent trade/draft period for them if they managed all of those.
Interesting decision though for Blues if Aish nominates for national Draft will they take him at pick 1. (They have the right to nominate either I believe),

0 Chance he'd go in the top 10 if he went to the ND. Not many clubs would be willing to take the punt on him fearing that he'd leave in 2 years.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: elephants on October 09, 2015, 04:00:54 PM
Quote from: powersuperkents on October 09, 2015, 03:55:02 PM
Quote from: elephants on October 09, 2015, 03:06:50 PM
Quote from: SydneyRox on October 09, 2015, 02:54:59 PM
Quote from: elephants on October 09, 2015, 01:25:39 PM
Praying we dont give our first rounder for Jetta. Please be a second #lowballfordays

I heard the boys on sportsfm here in WA hearing that Eagles were offering Sinclair and Pick 38 (something rnd there)

So your 1st round probably works better for you!

Media garbage!

Anyone with half a brain can see Sinclair is an integral part of our 22. Literally no other player on our list can play his role, especially not Lycett.

Jetta is good, but he's not worth sacrificing an irreplaceable player for.

Our list management team has always been very astute, cant see anything like that occurring.

I thought the Swans would prefer Lycett imo. 3 years younger and could rotate with Nankervis. Also, if they managed to snare Luey, Lycett could be a temporary second ruck (if they got Sinclair, they would intend to play him full-time as he would be close to finishing his career by the time Luey retired).

or are the Swans going for yet another premiership tilt?

Butchered that quote there mate but I fixed it for ya ;)

I agree, Lycett would be a better fit somewhere there's a legit chance he will be a future #1 ruck. He'll never get a look in unless NicNat suffers an LTI (touch wood) and Sydney need a #1 ruck.

In terms of Lycett playing as a second ruck... It ain't gonna work :p
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: RaisyDaisy on October 09, 2015, 04:03:51 PM
With Zac Smith wanting out of GC, GC are now chasing Dan Currie

"AFL.com.au understands North would like to keep Currie and has not given up hope of convincing the 26-year-old to stay. But the Roos will not stand in Currie's way if he believes greater senior opportunity beckons at Metricon Stadium."
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Pkbaldy on October 09, 2015, 04:04:04 PM
Quote from: elephants on October 09, 2015, 04:00:54 PM
Quote from: powersuperkents on October 09, 2015, 03:55:02 PM
Quote from: elephants on October 09, 2015, 03:06:50 PM
Quote from: SydneyRox on October 09, 2015, 02:54:59 PM
Quote from: elephants on October 09, 2015, 01:25:39 PM
Praying we dont give our first rounder for Jetta. Please be a second #lowballfordays

I heard the boys on sportsfm here in WA hearing that Eagles were offering Sinclair and Pick 38 (something rnd there)

So your 1st round probably works better for you!

Media garbage!

Anyone with half a brain can see Sinclair is an integral part of our 22. Literally no other player on our list can play his role, especially not Lycett.

Jetta is good, but he's not worth sacrificing an irreplaceable player for.

Our list management team has always been very astute, cant see anything like that occurring.

I thought the Swans would prefer Lycett imo. 3 years younger and could rotate with Nankervis. Also, if they managed to snare Luey, Lycett could be a temporary second ruck (if they got Sinclair, they would intend to play him full-time as he would be close to finishing his career by the time Luey retired).

or are the Swans going for yet another premiership tilt?

Butchered that quote there mate but I fixed it for ya ;)

I agree, Lycett would be a better fit somewhere there's a legit chance he will be a future #1 ruck. He'll never get a look in unless NicNat suffers an LTI (touch wood) and Sydney need a #1 ruck.

In terms of Lycett playing as a second ruck... It ain't gonna work :p

Surely the Swans would prefer Lycett over Sinclair anyway?? He's going to cost them less, and potentially end up being a better player than Sinclair.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: silloc on October 09, 2015, 04:48:15 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on October 09, 2015, 12:14:35 PM
20, 28 and next years first rounder is not enough IMO for Treloar

If I'm Carlton, I'm offering this years first pick you have in a heart beat

If Tyson fetched Melbourne's Pick 3, Treloar is easily worth that or better and GWS would demand that surely

lol.... not a chance. So much wrong with that statement
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: RaisyDaisy on October 09, 2015, 05:41:15 PM
Quote from: silloc on October 09, 2015, 04:48:15 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on October 09, 2015, 12:14:35 PM
20, 28 and next years first rounder is not enough IMO for Treloar

If I'm Carlton, I'm offering this years first pick you have in a heart beat

If Tyson fetched Melbourne's Pick 3, Treloar is easily worth that or better and GWS would demand that surely

lol.... not a chance. So much wrong with that statement

Do tell then please. How is what I said so wrong?

He wants to go to Collingwood, so they would need to offer a lot more to snatch him from them I would have thought

Mat suggested they use the earlier picks they get from Hendo and Yarran, and that sounds more like it. I'd be shocked if 29,28 and next years 1st with nothing more got Treloar, and it that's so wrong then so be it

As for the Tyson comment, why is it so wrong to suggest Carlton swap their first pick with GWS and get him, or something similar?
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Grazz on October 09, 2015, 06:05:20 PM
Selwood wants to be traded to the Cats.

http://www.afl.com.au/news/2015-10-09/eagle-scott-selwood-requests-free-agency-move-to-cats
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Southstorm on October 09, 2015, 06:07:07 PM
Not sure I'd offer that if I was Carlton though, Weitering is going to be a star defender. Finding somebody like that is extremely difficult whereas midfielders like Treloar are much easier to come by. 
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Ricochet on October 09, 2015, 06:08:34 PM
Quote from: Grazz on October 09, 2015, 06:05:20 PM
Selwood wants to be traded to the Cats.

http://www.afl.com.au/news/2015-10-09/eagle-scott-selwood-requests-free-agency-move-to-cats
Trying to decide if its a good or bad thing for him fantasy wise.
They now have Danger, Jelwood, Guthrie, Caddy, Duncan, plus Bartel at times.

What do we think?
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: RaisyDaisy on October 09, 2015, 06:10:22 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on October 09, 2015, 06:08:34 PM
Quote from: Grazz on October 09, 2015, 06:05:20 PM
Selwood wants to be traded to the Cats.

http://www.afl.com.au/news/2015-10-09/eagle-scott-selwood-requests-free-agency-move-to-cats
Trying to decide if its a good or bad thing for him fantasy wise.
They now have Danger, Jelwood, Guthrie, Caddy, Duncan, plus Bartel at times.

What do we think?

Scooter is fastly becoming irrelevant I reckon
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: elephants on October 09, 2015, 06:19:12 PM
Is there space in an AFL side for a player who can't hit the broad side of a barn? Possibly, but you'd wanna hope your inside game is elite :P

Thanks for the memories Scooter, I'll never forget the dark days when you were our best player!
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Big Mac on October 09, 2015, 06:19:22 PM
Quote from: Southstorm on October 09, 2015, 06:07:07 PM
Not sure I'd offer that if I was Carlton though, Weitering is going to be a star defender. Finding somebody like that is extremely difficult whereas midfielders like Treloar are much easier to come by.

I think the idea is that Carlton would be offering next year's 1st rounder, not this years
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: _wato on October 09, 2015, 06:21:58 PM
The one to look forward to in that lot Rico is Mitch Duncan I think.

Will get massive help with both Danger and Jelwood simpy gifting him the ball, will always be one of the big three rotating in the mids and he will never get a tag. Could become an absolute pig and have a breakout year much like Gaff did this year.

Will be eyeing him closely I think.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: iZander on October 09, 2015, 06:23:21 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on October 09, 2015, 06:10:22 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on October 09, 2015, 06:08:34 PM
Quote from: Grazz on October 09, 2015, 06:05:20 PM
Selwood wants to be traded to the Cats.

http://www.afl.com.au/news/2015-10-09/eagle-scott-selwood-requests-free-agency-move-to-cats
Trying to decide if its a good or bad thing for him fantasy wise.
They now have Danger, Jelwood, Guthrie, Caddy, Duncan, plus Bartel at times.

What do we think?

Scooter is fastly becoming irrelevant I reckon
Forgot about Blicavs in the mid, he won't be rucking :P
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: powersuperkents on October 09, 2015, 06:43:19 PM
Quote from: elephants on October 09, 2015, 06:19:12 PM
Is there space in an AFL side for a player who can't hit the broad side of a barn? Possibly, but you'd wanna hope your inside game is elite :P

Thanks for the memories Scooter, I'll never forget the dark days when you were our best player!
+1

Scooter sucks.

No offense to any Geelong supporters, but he isn't that good. Unless you work on his fitness and eventually make him a super-athlete, he doesn't really contribute anything special (poor decision making, usually reduced a tagging role - not to negate, just to give him a run really hahaha).

I honestly think that the Cats are just hoping his presence will provide a morale boost to Joel  :P

Hopefully the Eagles can milk as much as they can out of the Cats if they decide to match the offer
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: powersuperkents on October 09, 2015, 06:44:29 PM
Quote from: _wato on October 09, 2015, 06:21:58 PM
The one to look forward to in that lot Rico is Mitch Duncan I think.

Will get massive help with both Danger and Jelwood simpy gifting him the ball, will always be one of the big three rotating in the mids and he will never get a tag. Could become an absolute pig and have a breakout year much like Gaff did this year.

Will be eyeing him closely I think.
Sweet  ;D

I hope that is true because he's been a lock in my midfield for a long time
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: elephants on October 09, 2015, 06:50:28 PM
A first round selection for him would be a win imo.

Then we can use that for Redden from Brisbane ;D

IN:
Redden
Jetta

OUT:
Scooter
Second Round Pick

Would be chuffed with that 8)
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Jay on October 09, 2015, 07:04:16 PM
No way Scooter is worth a first.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: powersuperkents on October 09, 2015, 07:22:03 PM
Quote from: Jayman on October 09, 2015, 07:04:16 PM
No way Scooter is worth a first.
Yeah, even if he leaves as a free agent. West Coast will get 2nd round compo. at the most. Geelong's first rounder is designated for the Crows.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Big Mac on October 09, 2015, 07:36:12 PM
Quote from: Jayman on October 09, 2015, 07:04:16 PM
No way Scooter is worth a first.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: kilbluff1985 on October 09, 2015, 07:52:30 PM
so Cats are getting Hendo, Danger and Scooter? :o
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Jay on October 09, 2015, 07:58:14 PM
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on October 09, 2015, 07:52:30 PM
so Cats are getting Hendo, Danger and Scooter? :o
And Zac Smith :o
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: elephants on October 09, 2015, 07:59:28 PM
Gotta aim high :p Shame he didnt come outta contract three years ago!
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Rusty00 on October 09, 2015, 08:24:00 PM
Quote from: _wato on October 09, 2015, 06:21:58 PM
The one to look forward to in that lot Rico is Mitch Duncan I think.

Will get massive help with both Danger and Jelwood simpy gifting him the ball, will always be one of the big three rotating in the mids and he will never get a tag. Could become an absolute pig and have a breakout year much like Gaff did this year.

Will be eyeing him closely I think.
Good call. I reckon he showed signs of breaking out this year but injuries interrupted his season just when he was showing some consistent form.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Ricochet on October 10, 2015, 12:58:25 AM
Jed Anderson is exploring trade options :o

http://www.theage.com.au/afl/hawthorn-hawks/afl-trades-2015-hawthorns-jed-anderson-asks-to-leave-20151009-gk51xp.html
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Mat0369 on October 10, 2015, 01:13:39 AM
Maybe he can come to the club his bro played for  ;D

As I said earlier, if the Hawks aren't willing to part with their first rounder for Yaz I wouldn't be surprised if someone like him, Litherland or Schoenmakers are part of a package deal.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Money Shot on October 10, 2015, 01:33:34 AM
Quote from: Mat0369 on October 10, 2015, 01:13:39 AM
Maybe he can come to the club his bro played for  ;D

As I said earlier, if the Hawks aren't willing to part with their first rounder for Yaz I wouldn't be surprised if someone like him, Litherland or Schoenmakers are part of a package deal.
Yaz is going to Richmond according to his manager saying they'll get the job done. How ever Anderson would be a good sweeter in any deal ... The kid can play!
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: elephants on October 10, 2015, 01:39:31 AM
Quote from: Ricochet on October 10, 2015, 12:58:25 AM
Jed Anderson is exploring trade options :o

http://www.theage.com.au/afl/hawthorn-hawks/afl-trades-2015-hawthorns-jed-anderson-asks-to-leave-20151009-gk51xp.html

Welcome to West Coast pls!
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Mat0369 on October 10, 2015, 01:42:40 AM
Quote from: Money Shot on October 10, 2015, 01:33:34 AM
Yaz is going to Richmond according to his manager saying they'll get the job done. How ever Anderson would be a good sweeter in any deal ... The kid can play!

Richmond and his manager can say what they want, if they don't give us what we are after and the Hawks will then he is going to be a Hawk.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Nige on October 10, 2015, 02:48:25 PM
Not sure if it was mentioned here, but the Tiges have basically given up on a big name this offseason apparently and are pursuing Jacob Townsend from GWS citing the need for another inside mid.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: meow meow on October 10, 2015, 03:20:31 PM
Bombers showing interest in Bennell. Unlikely to get him but will force Freo to pay a first rounder.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Ricochet on October 10, 2015, 03:25:26 PM
Quote from: meow meow on October 10, 2015, 03:20:31 PM
Bombers showing interest in Bennell. Unlikely to get him but will force Freo to pay a first rounder.
cows. Will screw up our McCarthy offer
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Torpedo10 on October 10, 2015, 03:34:27 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on October 10, 2015, 03:25:26 PM
Quote from: meow meow on October 10, 2015, 03:20:31 PM
Bombers showing interest in Bennell. Unlikely to get him but will force Freo to pay a first rounder.
cows. Will screw up our McCarthy offer
Cows? What the hell Rico, why would anyone let the Minor Premiers get Bennell without paying a worthy price?
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Ricochet on October 10, 2015, 03:36:19 PM
Quote from: Torpedo10 on October 10, 2015, 03:34:27 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on October 10, 2015, 03:25:26 PM
Quote from: meow meow on October 10, 2015, 03:20:31 PM
Bombers showing interest in Bennell. Unlikely to get him but will force Freo to pay a first rounder.
cows. Will screw up our McCarthy offer
Cows? Go to hell Rico, why would anyone let the Minor Premiers get Bennell without paying a worthy price?
hahaha chill man :) Of course he's worth that.

I'm allowed to hope that we get him for peanuts though :P
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: powersuperkents on October 10, 2015, 03:43:56 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on October 10, 2015, 03:25:26 PM
Quote from: meow meow on October 10, 2015, 03:20:31 PM
Bombers showing interest in Bennell. Unlikely to get him but will force Freo to pay a first rounder.
cows. Will screw up our McCarthy offer
I highly doubt the Dockers will land McCarthy

I also think that if McCarthy play one more season with the Giants, he will stay. He's too young to be making these choices with any maturity (why would he extend his contract? He must of have a lingering doubt that he wanted out at the time, if not, he's too mercurial to make any significant calls about his future - and I think the Giants know this).

If he really is serious about it, he will leave once the contract expires. Until then, I don't see GWS (a team with only Cameron, McCarthy, & an injured Jono Patton) trading yet another key forward for draft picks (the one thing they don't want - they can get enough picks for future academy players from Carlton and other clubs which are demanding less than a required player).

If Freo think McCarthy will be traded without having to give up a key player... they are delusional (give up Sheridan + a first rounder at least if the club is serious about it). Until Freo offer a required player, I don't think the Dockers should expect GWS to give up one of theirs (esp. a contracted one)   
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: kilbluff1985 on October 10, 2015, 03:48:51 PM
does anyone think something like this could happen

2017+2018+2019 1st rounders

for

2015 + 2016 1st rounders

could tempt someone
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Ricochet on October 10, 2015, 03:50:38 PM
Quote from: powersuperkents on October 10, 2015, 03:43:56 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on October 10, 2015, 03:25:26 PM
Quote from: meow meow on October 10, 2015, 03:20:31 PM
Bombers showing interest in Bennell. Unlikely to get him but will force Freo to pay a first rounder.
cows. Will screw up our McCarthy offer
I highly doubt the Dockers will land McCarthy

I also think that if McCarthy play one more season with the Giants, he will stay. He's too young to be making these choices with any maturity (why would he extend his contract? He must of have a lingering doubt that he wanted out at the time, if not, he's too mercurial to make any significant calls about his future - and I think the Giants know this).
He extended his contract because he hadn't done anything yet. It was a smart move at the time.

Now he has spent time with his family and received a massive offer from Freo, and he's using family as part of his excuse to get there.

Freo will throw up our 2x first rounders for him. If at the end of the trade period, GWS need those picks/players, they will consider it. But they won't early on
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Ricochet on October 10, 2015, 03:53:36 PM
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on October 10, 2015, 03:48:51 PM
does anyone think something like this could happen

2017+2018+2019 1st rounders

for

2015 + 2016 1st rounders

could tempt someone
Atm you can only trade one year into the future.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: powersuperkents on October 10, 2015, 04:56:40 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on October 10, 2015, 03:50:38 PM
Quote from: powersuperkents on October 10, 2015, 03:43:56 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on October 10, 2015, 03:25:26 PM
Quote from: meow meow on October 10, 2015, 03:20:31 PM
Bombers showing interest in Bennell. Unlikely to get him but will force Freo to pay a first rounder.
cows. Will screw up our McCarthy offer
I highly doubt the Dockers will land McCarthy

I also think that if McCarthy play one more season with the Giants, he will stay. He's too young to be making these choices with any maturity (why would he extend his contract? He must of have a lingering doubt that he wanted out at the time, if not, he's too mercurial to make any significant calls about his future - and I think the Giants know this).
He extended his contract because he hadn't done anything yet. It was a smart move at the time.

Now he has spent time with his family and received a massive offer from Freo, and he's using family as part of his excuse to get there.

Freo will throw up our 2x first rounders for him. If at the end of the trade period, GWS need those picks/players, they will consider it. But they won't early on
+1 I agree with this

I just don't see the Giants accepting it imo (they will definitely consider it)

They have McCarthy for two more years - at the end of that, he won't be a free agent and therefore if he chooses to leave GWS will still be able to broker a significant trade.

It's all a question of future markets imo. If GWS think he will fall in over the next two years (and therefore lose value), they would trade him now.

However, I think 99% of people would back McCarthy to continue to improve over the next 2 years (and therefore, gain value and possibly start a bidding war between Freo & WCE - or McCarthy's preferred club at the time).

I think for GWS to accept the Dockers trade in 2015 will take someone like Lachie Neale or Sheridan and I don't see Freo being willing to comply (and GWS have nothing to lose so no team has any leverage over the other).
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Torpedo10 on October 10, 2015, 05:06:10 PM
Quote from: powersuperkents on October 10, 2015, 04:56:40 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on October 10, 2015, 03:50:38 PM
Quote from: powersuperkents on October 10, 2015, 03:43:56 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on October 10, 2015, 03:25:26 PM
Quote from: meow meow on October 10, 2015, 03:20:31 PM
Bombers showing interest in Bennell. Unlikely to get him but will force Freo to pay a first rounder.
cows. Will screw up our McCarthy offer
I highly doubt the Dockers will land McCarthy

I also think that if McCarthy play one more season with the Giants, he will stay. He's too young to be making these choices with any maturity (why would he extend his contract? He must of have a lingering doubt that he wanted out at the time, if not, he's too mercurial to make any significant calls about his future - and I think the Giants know this).
He extended his contract because he hadn't done anything yet. It was a smart move at the time.

Now he has spent time with his family and received a massive offer from Freo, and he's using family as part of his excuse to get there.

Freo will throw up our 2x first rounders for him. If at the end of the trade period, GWS need those picks/players, they will consider it. But they won't early on
No chance for Neale, Freo would be crazy to get rid of Neale.
+1 I agree with this

I just don't see the Giants accepting it imo (they will definitely consider it)

They have McCarthy for two more years - at the end of that, he won't be a free agent and therefore if he chooses to leave GWS will still be able to broker a significant trade.

It's all a question of future markets imo. If GWS think he will fall in over the next two years (and therefore lose value), they would trade him now.

However, I think 99% of people would back McCarthy to continue to improve over the next 2 years (and therefore, gain value and possibly start a bidding war between Freo & WCE - or McCarthy's preferred club at the time).

I think for GWS to accept the Dockers trade in 2015 will take someone like Lachie Neale or Sheridan and I don't see Freo being willing to comply (and GWS have nothing to lose so no team has any leverage over the other).
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Ringo on October 10, 2015, 06:26:15 PM
Rumours from the Sunshine State

Suns:
Dixon to Port for Pick 10
Bennell to Freo with Suns asking for Freos 1st pick of 16.  Essendondon also rumoured to be interested but deal likely with freo.
Suns first deal likely to be for Norths Daniel Currie
Suns also talking to Jeremy Howe and Paul Seedsman

Brisbane:
Will deal with Carlton for Tom Bell and Levi Casboult -Pick 21 and a later pick being the offers. Blues wanted Mayes as part of deal but this will be rejected.
Aish may still go to Pies if they come up with a decent offer. A lot will depend on what picks etc are on offer after Pies close Treloar deal
Leuenberger still to decide between Essendon and Swans.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Money Shot on October 10, 2015, 06:56:50 PM
Quote from: Ringo on October 10, 2015, 06:26:15 PM
Rumours from the Sunshine State

Suns:
Dixon to Port for Pick 10
Bennell to Freo with Suns asking for Freos 1st pick of 16.  Essendondon also rumoured to be interested but deal likely with freo.
Suns first deal likely to be for Norths Daniel Currie
Suns also talking to Jeremy Howe and Paul Seedsman

Brisbane:
Will deal with Carlton for Tom Bell and Levi Casboult -Pick 21 and a later pick being the offers. Blues wanted Mayes as part of deal but this will be rejected.
Aish may still go to Pies if they come up with a decent offer. A lot will depend on what picks etc are on offer after Pies close Treloar deal
Leuenberger still to decide between Essendon and Swans.
I really hope we don't give up Casboult :(
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: kilbluff1985 on October 10, 2015, 07:02:47 PM
Bell and Levi for 21 and a later pick seems crazy unders to me
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: LF on October 10, 2015, 07:05:37 PM
Well done to Jacob Ballard for winning Peel Thunders B&F pity Freo delisted him
Also a mention to Bootsma for finishing 2nd and Blakely was 3rd
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: powersuperkents on October 10, 2015, 07:22:55 PM
Quote from: Ringo on October 10, 2015, 06:26:15 PM
Rumours from the Sunshine State

Suns:
Dixon to Port for Pick 10
Bennell to Freo with Suns asking for Freos 1st pick of 16.  Essendondon also rumoured to be interested but deal likely with freo.
Suns first deal likely to be for Norths Daniel Currie
Suns also talking to Jeremy Howe and Paul Seedsman

Brisbane:
Will deal with Carlton for Tom Bell and Levi Casboult -Pick 21 and a later pick being the offers. Blues wanted Mayes as part of deal but this will be rejected.
Aish may still go to Pies if they come up with a decent offer. A lot will depend on what picks etc are on offer after Pies close Treloar deal
Leuenberger still to decide between Essendon and Swans.
Love hearing it every time  ;D

& to think at this time last year I thought he was a hack

Without a doubt he will be 2016's Coleman Medalist  :P (hopefully he can stay fit & make a nice duo with Westhoff and an even better quartet with Schulz, Westy, & Ryder)
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Mat0369 on October 10, 2015, 07:41:53 PM
I am sorry but there is no way we are giving up Levi and Bell for pick 21 and a later pick.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Money Shot on October 10, 2015, 07:45:18 PM
Quote from: Mat0369 on October 10, 2015, 07:41:53 PM
I am sorry but there is no way we are giving up Levi and Bell for pick 21 and a later pick.
What do you reckon the chance of us giving up Casboult is?
Bell for 21 seems okay for both clubs under the circumstances.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: meow meow on October 10, 2015, 07:51:23 PM
Saints must like the yank because they're shopping Hickey around and the Dogs are keen. Maybe something happening with Hrovat there.

Suckling to the Dogs (back to Bevo) is looking more likely by the day.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Football Factory on October 10, 2015, 08:07:30 PM
Clubs circle ex-Crow Brodie Martin, the discarded wingman is open to being signed as a rookie.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Mat0369 on October 10, 2015, 08:21:15 PM
Quote from: Money Shot on October 10, 2015, 07:45:18 PM
What do you reckon the chance of us giving up Casboult is?
Bell for 21 seems okay for both clubs under the circumstances.

If Bell requests the trade I have no issue with that, but we aren't giving up Levi unless it nets us something big in return. Originally I had Aish for Levi as a straight swap back in May, but Brisbane have said they won't trade him and that we could get him for free in the pre-season draft. Considering we are trading Hendo as well it seems like a bad move. Heading into the draft our key forwards will consist of Jayden Foster, Liam Jones and maybe Jaksch if we swing him forward.

Levi is 25, he is one of the best marks in the league and his biggest knock has been his goal kicking which he actually went at around a 65% conversion rate last season. For reference, JJK and Lecca went at about 60% last season while Gunston went at 62% and he is considered a pretty reliable kick. 

The true elite kicks like Betts (72%), Breust (73%), Schulz (72%) and Dickson (81%) do have higher percentages, but looking at the numbers he has shown a bit of improvement in the area.

Mayes is a good player, I wouldn't be upset with that trade but it doesn't make a whole lot of sense. I would rather use Levi to attract another ruck and maybe a pick in a separate deal if we are going to trade him out.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Money Shot on October 10, 2015, 08:50:01 PM
Suckling signed a 3 year contract with the doggies!
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: RaisyDaisy on October 11, 2015, 01:13:01 AM
Quote from: Money Shot on October 10, 2015, 08:50:01 PM
Suckling signed a 3 year contract with the doggies!

Happened very quickly. Handy get for the dogs indeed
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: RaisyDaisy on October 11, 2015, 10:16:30 AM
Quote from: Mat0369 on October 10, 2015, 08:21:15 PM
Levi is 25, he is one of the best marks in the league and his biggest knock has been his goal kicking which he actually went at around a 65% conversion rate last season. For reference, JJK and Lecca went at about 60% last season while Gunston went at 62% and he is considered a pretty reliable kick. 

Levi went at 57% this year though. I like the big fella, and as you said he knows how to plunk them

I don't think Carlton can afford to lose him. Who are you going to rely on? Liam Jones? LOL
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Money Shot on October 11, 2015, 10:23:43 AM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on October 11, 2015, 10:16:30 AM
Quote from: Mat0369 on October 10, 2015, 08:21:15 PM
Levi is 25, he is one of the best marks in the league and his biggest knock has been his goal kicking which he actually went at around a 65% conversion rate last season. For reference, JJK and Lecca went at about 60% last season while Gunston went at 62% and he is considered a pretty reliable kick. 

Levi went at 57% this year though. I like the big fella, and as you said he knows how to plunk them

I don't think Carlton can afford to lose him. Who are you going to rely on? Liam Jones? LOL
My thoughts exactly haha :P

Henderson for Geelongs first round pick next year is a possibility!

North is now leading the chase for Howe
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: enzedder on October 11, 2015, 10:50:00 AM
Quote from: meow meow on October 10, 2015, 07:51:23 PM
Saints must like the yank because they're shopping Hickey around and the Dogs are keen. Maybe something happening with Hrovat there.

Suckling to the Dogs (back to Bevo) is looking more likely by the day.
Haven't read anything about that but Longer overtook Hickey this year and Holmes showed plenty. Dogs need a ruck so makes some sense.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Purple 77 on October 11, 2015, 10:51:03 AM
Quote from: Money Shot on October 11, 2015, 10:23:43 AM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on October 11, 2015, 10:16:30 AM
Quote from: Mat0369 on October 10, 2015, 08:21:15 PM
Levi is 25, he is one of the best marks in the league and his biggest knock has been his goal kicking which he actually went at around a 65% conversion rate last season. For reference, JJK and Lecca went at about 60% last season while Gunston went at 62% and he is considered a pretty reliable kick. 

Levi went at 57% this year though. I like the big fella, and as you said he knows how to plunk them

I don't think Carlton can afford to lose him. Who are you going to rely on? Liam Jones? LOL
My thoughts exactly haha :P

Henderson for Geelongs first round pick next year is a possibility!

North is now leading the chase for Howe

I'm interested to see what Howe is worth on the trade market...

Jeremy obviously sees himself worth a first rounder  ::)
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Big Mac on October 11, 2015, 11:07:09 AM
Quote from: Purple 77 on October 11, 2015, 10:51:03 AM
Quote from: Money Shot on October 11, 2015, 10:23:43 AM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on October 11, 2015, 10:16:30 AM
Quote from: Mat0369 on October 10, 2015, 08:21:15 PM
Levi is 25, he is one of the best marks in the league and his biggest knock has been his goal kicking which he actually went at around a 65% conversion rate last season. For reference, JJK and Lecca went at about 60% last season while Gunston went at 62% and he is considered a pretty reliable kick. 

Levi went at 57% this year though. I like the big fella, and as you said he knows how to plunk them

I don't think Carlton can afford to lose him. Who are you going to rely on? Liam Jones? LOL
My thoughts exactly haha :P

Henderson for Geelongs first round pick next year is a possibility!

North is now leading the chase for Howe

I'm interested to see what Howe is worth on the trade market...

Jeremy obviously sees himself worth a first rounder  ::)

GWS' deal on the final day of trade period last year probably messed with his head a little bit

He's probably worth about pick 20-25
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Money Shot on October 11, 2015, 11:14:30 AM
Quote from: Big  Mac on October 11, 2015, 11:07:09 AM
Quote from: Purple 77 on October 11, 2015, 10:51:03 AM
Quote from: Money Shot on October 11, 2015, 10:23:43 AM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on October 11, 2015, 10:16:30 AM
Quote from: Mat0369 on October 10, 2015, 08:21:15 PM
Levi is 25, he is one of the best marks in the league and his biggest knock has been his goal kicking which he actually went at around a 65% conversion rate last season. For reference, JJK and Lecca went at about 60% last season while Gunston went at 62% and he is considered a pretty reliable kick. 

Levi went at 57% this year though. I like the big fella, and as you said he knows how to plunk them

I don't think Carlton can afford to lose him. Who are you going to rely on? Liam Jones? LOL
My thoughts exactly haha :P

Henderson for Geelongs first round pick next year is a possibility!

North is now leading the chase for Howe

I'm interested to see what Howe is worth on the trade market...

Jeremy obviously sees himself worth a first rounder  ::)

GWS' deal on the final day of trade period last year probably messed with his head a little bit

He's probably worth about pick 20-25
I could easily see him 15-20 considering Henderson and Yarran want and look like getting first round picks!
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Nige on October 11, 2015, 11:59:57 AM
Swans have signed some young Irish lad by the name of Colin O'Riordan as as international rookie.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Mat0369 on October 11, 2015, 01:10:17 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on October 11, 2015, 10:16:30 AM
Quote from: Mat0369 on October 10, 2015, 08:21:15 PM
Levi is 25, he is one of the best marks in the league and his biggest knock has been his goal kicking which he actually went at around a 65% conversion rate last season. For reference, JJK and Lecca went at about 60% last season while Gunston went at 62% and he is considered a pretty reliable kick. 

Levi went at 57% this year though. I like the big fella, and as you said he knows how to plunk them

I don't think Carlton can afford to lose him. Who are you going to rely on? Liam Jones? LOL

He kicked 24-12 this year, that's 66%. Since it didn't include out on the full I dropped it at least 1% since he didn't really spray many out on the full. 57% over his career wouldn't surprise me.

And you're right, we can't afford to move both of he and Hendo and would be stupid to do it. Maybe the idea is to get as much value as possible which means trade him this year and then try and fast track the development of Foster and SOS Jr.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Bill Manspeaker on October 11, 2015, 01:29:43 PM
Quote from: enzedder on October 11, 2015, 10:50:00 AM
Quote from: meow meow on October 10, 2015, 07:51:23 PM
Saints must like the yank because they're shopping Hickey around and the Dogs are keen. Maybe something happening with Hrovat there.

Suckling to the Dogs (back to Bevo) is looking more likely by the day.
Haven't read anything about that but Longer overtook Hickey this year and Holmes showed plenty. Dogs need a ruck so makes some sense.
I'm not sure about trading Hickey. having a 2nd ruck with his ability will be very handy in the future. if he can continue to work on his forward game and be able to kick a goal or 2 a game while giving Billy a rest in the ruck, I think that's too good to trade away

if we can get big overs on the deal, like Dogs' pick 11, it would be hard to overlook. but can't see that happening
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: enzedder on October 11, 2015, 01:43:09 PM
Quote from: Bill Manspeaker on October 11, 2015, 01:29:43 PM
Quote from: enzedder on October 11, 2015, 10:50:00 AM
Quote from: meow meow on October 10, 2015, 07:51:23 PM
Saints must like the yank because they're shopping Hickey around and the Dogs are keen. Maybe something happening with Hrovat there.

Suckling to the Dogs (back to Bevo) is looking more likely by the day.
Haven't read anything about that but Longer overtook Hickey this year and Holmes showed plenty. Dogs need a ruck so makes some sense.
I'm not sure about trading Hickey. having a 2nd ruck with his ability will be very handy in the future. if he can continue to work on his forward game and be able to kick a goal or 2 a game while giving Billy a rest in the ruck, I think that's too good to trade away

if we can get big overs on the deal, like Dogs' pick 11, it would be hard to overlook. but can't see that happening
Pick #11 would be sweet but I can't see it happening either. We'd need to offer a bit more to get the dogs to bite.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Mat0369 on October 11, 2015, 02:29:01 PM
I wouldn't mind Hickey at Carlton if you guys are seriously looking at trading him. A three way deal like Bell to the Lions, Hickey to Carlton and the Lions 2nd round pick to the Saints. It would also drive up the price that the Dogs would be forced to use that 1st round pick on him.

From what I gather they are keen to let Roughy become their number 1 ruck but they need someone to replace him down back especially with Talia on the way out the door. That might be why they are after Hickey
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: powersuperkents on October 11, 2015, 02:30:18 PM
Quote from: Bill Manspeaker on October 11, 2015, 01:29:43 PM
Quote from: enzedder on October 11, 2015, 10:50:00 AM
Quote from: meow meow on October 10, 2015, 07:51:23 PM
Saints must like the yank because they're shopping Hickey around and the Dogs are keen. Maybe something happening with Hrovat there.

Suckling to the Dogs (back to Bevo) is looking more likely by the day.
Haven't read anything about that but Longer overtook Hickey this year and Holmes showed plenty. Dogs need a ruck so makes some sense.
I'm not sure about trading Hickey. having a 2nd ruck with his ability will be very handy in the future. if he can continue to work on his forward game and be able to kick a goal or 2 a game while giving Billy a rest in the ruck, I think that's too good to trade away

if we can get big overs on the deal, like Dogs' pick 11, it would be hard to overlook. but can't see that happening
+1

The Saints should hold on to Hickey
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Pkbaldy on October 11, 2015, 02:37:15 PM
Personally I'd love to keep Hickey... But if we managed to get Pick 11 out of the deal we could probably dish that straight too Essendon for Carlisle...
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: powersuperkents on October 11, 2015, 02:52:11 PM
Quote from: Pkbaldy on October 11, 2015, 02:37:15 PM
Personally I'd love to keep Hickey... But if we managed to get Pick 11 out of the deal we could probably dish that straight too Essendon for Carlisle...
You can never have enough talls though

and esp. versatile talls like Hickey & Carlisle who are rare and take time to develop. Getting a good-decent tall is rare, a lot show no potential to begin with and are drafted solely for their height (i.e. spud Warnock etc.) or that never reach their potential at the highest level. Carlisle has shown he can be a leading tall defender at the highest level and Hickey has been impressive when resting forward this season. The Saints have to keep Longer & Bruce but I don't see them getting pick #11 without giving up a tall (it's the one thing the Bulldogs lack - a talented, yet injury-prone, Roughead is the only tall I can name off the top of my head since Minson's career is basically over and Ayce Cordy fits into the second bracket as a player never reaching his potential).

I think the Saints should find another to get Carlisle, however they will need to give up something important (and Billings/the talls are their strongest commodities at this point in time - so it looks like Hickey may have to go if they don't want to give up pick 5 or Billings (I don't think any team would trade away this prodigy).
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: RaisyDaisy on October 11, 2015, 04:55:55 PM
Quote from: Mat0369 on October 11, 2015, 01:10:17 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on October 11, 2015, 10:16:30 AM
Quote from: Mat0369 on October 10, 2015, 08:21:15 PM
Levi is 25, he is one of the best marks in the league and his biggest knock has been his goal kicking which he actually went at around a 65% conversion rate last season. For reference, JJK and Lecca went at about 60% last season while Gunston went at 62% and he is considered a pretty reliable kick. 

Levi went at 57% this year though. I like the big fella, and as you said he knows how to plunk them

I don't think Carlton can afford to lose him. Who are you going to rely on? Liam Jones? LOL

He kicked 24-12 this year, that's 66%. Since it didn't include out on the full I dropped it at least 1% since he didn't really spray many out on the full. 57% over his career wouldn't surprise me.

And you're right, we can't afford to move both of he and Hendo and would be stupid to do it. Maybe the idea is to get as much value as possible which means trade him this year and then try and fast track the development of Foster and SOS Jr.

Champion Data tweeted he's accuracy on goal was 57% this year, and that it's above afl average

Crazy how that can be above average.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Mat0369 on October 11, 2015, 05:03:11 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on October 11, 2015, 04:55:55 PM
Champion Data tweeted he's accuracy on goal was 57% this year, and that it's above afl average

Crazy how that can be above average.

He must have sprayed a fair few shots on the full then (http://content.boards.philadelphiaeagles.com/public/style_emoticons/default/laugh.png)

They do say time and time again that goal kicking is the one aspect that hasn't improved and I think that number right there says it all.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Ricochet on October 11, 2015, 05:25:22 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on October 11, 2015, 04:55:55 PM
Quote from: Mat0369 on October 11, 2015, 01:10:17 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on October 11, 2015, 10:16:30 AM
Quote from: Mat0369 on October 10, 2015, 08:21:15 PM
Levi is 25, he is one of the best marks in the league and his biggest knock has been his goal kicking which he actually went at around a 65% conversion rate last season. For reference, JJK and Lecca went at about 60% last season while Gunston went at 62% and he is considered a pretty reliable kick. 

Levi went at 57% this year though. I like the big fella, and as you said he knows how to plunk them

I don't think Carlton can afford to lose him. Who are you going to rely on? Liam Jones? LOL

He kicked 24-12 this year, that's 66%. Since it didn't include out on the full I dropped it at least 1% since he didn't really spray many out on the full. 57% over his career wouldn't surprise me.

And you're right, we can't afford to move both of he and Hendo and would be stupid to do it. Maybe the idea is to get as much value as possible which means trade him this year and then try and fast track the development of Foster and SOS Jr.

Champion Data tweeted he's accuracy on goal was 57% this year, and that it's above afl average

Crazy how that can be above average.
Well the Coleman medallist went at 60% (excluding out on the full)
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: RaisyDaisy on October 11, 2015, 05:34:27 PM
Exactly. 60% is still poor in reality

Amazing how professionals, the best who play still can't kick better
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Money Shot on October 11, 2015, 05:36:34 PM
AFL just realised an article on who's going where and how they are going to get there!

Yarran and pick 20 for pick 12 and 34 stood out to me as a blues fan, I think that would be a fair swap and both teams would be happy!
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: kilbluff1985 on October 11, 2015, 06:24:19 PM
Quote from: Pkbaldy on October 11, 2015, 02:37:15 PM
Personally I'd love to keep Hickey... But if we managed to get Pick 11 out of the deal we could probably dish that straight too Essendon for Carlisle...

was reading about Hickey and started thinking the same surprised nobody suggested it before you
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Money Shot on October 11, 2015, 06:35:15 PM
Carlton has looked at: Tomilson, Plowman, Sumner, Lamb and Phillips from the giants and all would be handy on our list in my opinion and all have potential but what would we give to pick them up?

Bell to Brisbane for pick 21 then 21 and 38 for them?
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Pkbaldy on October 11, 2015, 06:36:05 PM
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on October 11, 2015, 06:24:19 PM
Quote from: Pkbaldy on October 11, 2015, 02:37:15 PM
Personally I'd love to keep Hickey... But if we managed to get Pick 11 out of the deal we could probably dish that straight too Essendon for Carlisle...

was reading about Hickey and started thinking the same surprised nobody suggested it before you

The Hickey thing has circled before. On a FB thing haha. I'd still prefer to keep him though...
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: meow meow on October 11, 2015, 06:53:04 PM
Quote from: Money Shot on October 11, 2015, 06:35:15 PM
Carlton has looked at: Tomilson, Plowman, Sumner, Lamb and Phillips from the giants and all would be handy on our list in my opinion and all have potential but what would we give to pick them up?

Bell to Brisbane for pick 21 then 21 and 38 for them?

Dreaming!
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: elephants on October 11, 2015, 07:09:16 PM
Quote from: meow meow on October 11, 2015, 06:53:04 PM
Quote from: Money Shot on October 11, 2015, 06:35:15 PM
Carlton has looked at: Tomilson, Plowman, Sumner, Lamb and Phillips from the giants and all would be handy on our list in my opinion and all have potential but what would we give to pick them up?

Bell to Brisbane for pick 21 then 21 and 38 for them?

Dreaming!

Yeah thats brutal low ball haha. I'd say Tomlinson alone would be worth pick 21, let alone the other four for 38!
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Money Shot on October 11, 2015, 07:23:03 PM
Quote from: elephants on October 11, 2015, 07:09:16 PM
Quote from: meow meow on October 11, 2015, 06:53:04 PM
Quote from: Money Shot on October 11, 2015, 06:35:15 PM
Carlton has looked at: Tomilson, Plowman, Sumner, Lamb and Phillips from the giants and all would be handy on our list in my opinion and all have potential but what would we give to pick them up?

Bell to Brisbane for pick 21 then 21 and 38 for them?

Dreaming!

Yeah thats brutal low ball haha. I'd say Tomlinson alone would be worth pick 21, let alone the other four for 38!
Oh well :'(
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: kilbluff1985 on October 11, 2015, 07:56:27 PM
7 reporting Luey will be nominating Essendon soon
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Donnie Brasco on October 11, 2015, 08:13:58 PM
Quote from: Money Shot on October 11, 2015, 05:36:34 PM
AFL just realised an article on who's going where and how they are going to get there!

Yarran and pick 20 for pick 12 and 34 stood out to me as a blues fan, I think that would be a fair swap and both teams would be happy!

yeah, seems ok
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: kilbluff1985 on October 11, 2015, 08:19:52 PM
Quote from: Donnie Brasco on October 11, 2015, 08:13:58 PM
Quote from: Money Shot on October 11, 2015, 05:36:34 PM
AFL just realised an article on who's going where and how they are going to get there!

Yarran and pick 20 for pick 12 and 34 stood out to me as a blues fan, I think that would be a fair swap and both teams would be happy!

yeah, seems ok

so Yarran is worth 12 and 34 but Carlisle not worth pick 5?

hahahahahahaha
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Big Mac on October 11, 2015, 08:21:48 PM
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on October 11, 2015, 08:19:52 PM
Quote from: Donnie Brasco on October 11, 2015, 08:13:58 PM
Quote from: Money Shot on October 11, 2015, 05:36:34 PM
AFL just realised an article on who's going where and how they are going to get there!

Yarran and pick 20 for pick 12 and 34 stood out to me as a blues fan, I think that would be a fair swap and both teams would be happy!

yeah, seems ok

so Yarran is worth 12 and 34 but Carlisle not worth pick 5?

hahahahahahaha

I think he was saying Yarran is worth an upgrade from pick 20 to pick 12, as well as pick 34
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Pkbaldy on October 11, 2015, 08:22:35 PM
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on October 11, 2015, 08:19:52 PM
Quote from: Donnie Brasco on October 11, 2015, 08:13:58 PM
Quote from: Money Shot on October 11, 2015, 05:36:34 PM
AFL just realised an article on who's going where and how they are going to get there!

Yarran and pick 20 for pick 12 and 34 stood out to me as a blues fan, I think that would be a fair swap and both teams would be happy!

yeah, seems ok

so Yarran is worth 12 and 34 but Carlisle not worth pick 5?

hahahahahahaha

I don't believe you read that properly.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: kilbluff1985 on October 11, 2015, 08:28:49 PM
wouldnt be the first time  :o :-X
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Money Shot on October 11, 2015, 08:42:07 PM
Quote from: Donnie Brasco on October 11, 2015, 08:13:58 PM
Quote from: Money Shot on October 11, 2015, 05:36:34 PM
AFL just realised an article on who's going where and how they are going to get there!

Yarran and pick 20 for pick 12 and 34 stood out to me as a blues fan, I think that would be a fair swap and both teams would be happy!

yeah, seems ok
In my opinion as a blues fan I would love next years first round for Hendo and Yarran from the clubs they go and then we would have 3 picks inside the top 20! That would be amazing!

In saying that I really don't think Yarran is worth that much! I think he is worth 20-25 in my opinion
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Nige on October 11, 2015, 10:50:21 PM
I still don't like the idea of us giving our first rounder for Yarran.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Money Shot on October 11, 2015, 11:30:42 PM
Quote from: Nige on October 11, 2015, 10:50:21 PM
I still don't like the idea of us giving our first rounder for Yarran.
What about next years first rounder? Would a bit lower in the draft than this years?
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Jukes on October 12, 2015, 12:13:08 AM
http://www.theage.com.au/afl/afl-news/essendon-to-sign-lions-ruckman-matthew-leuenberger-as-free-agent-20151011-gk6hze.html

QuoteEssendon will sign Brisbane Lions' ruckman Matthew Leuenberger as a free agent.

Leuenberger, 27, who had also attracted interest from Sydney, has agreed to join the Bombers on a three-year contract, which will be lodged in the coming days.

Under the rules, the Lions have the right to match the offer and force a trade, but Brisbane has no intention of doing so and will accept the compensation draft selection for the ruckman, who is likely to earn the Lions an early second-round draft pick; at this stage, that pick would be pick no 22, straight after Brisbane's second-round pick no 21.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Nige on October 12, 2015, 10:06:57 AM
There's talk that Lachie Weller wants to move to Victoria.

His family is here and obviously Mav plays for the Saints.

Hoping that if true, the Tigers seriously consider him as they were interested in him last year and he was a Tiges fan growing up.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Ricochet on October 12, 2015, 10:22:13 AM
Quote from: Nige on October 12, 2015, 10:06:57 AM
There's talk that Lachie Weller wants to move to Victoria.

His family is here and obviously Mav plays for the Saints.

Hoping that if true, the Tigers seriously consider him as they were interested in him last year and he was a Tiges fan growing up.
hands off
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Pkbaldy on October 12, 2015, 10:27:35 AM
Quote from: Ricochet on October 12, 2015, 10:22:13 AM
Quote from: Nige on October 12, 2015, 10:06:57 AM
There's talk that Lachie Weller wants to move to Victoria.

His family is here and obviously Mav plays for the Saints.

Hoping that if true, the Tigers seriously consider him as they were interested in him last year and he was a Tiges fan growing up.
hands off

Mine.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Toga on October 12, 2015, 10:29:40 AM
Quote from: Nige on October 12, 2015, 10:06:57 AM
There's talk that Lachie Weller wants to move to Victoria.

His family is here and obviously Mav plays for the Saints.

Hoping that if true, the Tigers seriously consider him as they were interested in him last year and he was a Tiges fan growing up.

Heard this rumour a while back but didn't think much of it. Sounded like the Tiges were interested in him before the draft last year, I'm a big fan!
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Ringo on October 12, 2015, 11:05:25 AM
Quote from: Jukes on October 12, 2015, 12:13:08 AM
http://www.theage.com.au/afl/afl-news/essendon-to-sign-lions-ruckman-matthew-leuenberger-as-free-agent-20151011-gk6hze.html

QuoteEssendon will sign Brisbane Lions' ruckman Matthew Leuenberger as a free agent.

Leuenberger, 27, who had also attracted interest from Sydney, has agreed to join the Bombers on a three-year contract, which will be lodged in the coming days.

Under the rules, the Lions have the right to match the offer and force a trade, but Brisbane has no intention of doing so and will accept the compensation draft selection for the ruckman, who is likely to earn the Lions an early second-round draft pick; at this stage, that pick would be pick no 22, straight after Brisbane's second-round pick no 21.
Perfect solution for both clubs will allow us to use picks 21 and 22 if necessary to secure Keays and Hipwood.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Nige on October 12, 2015, 12:12:19 PM
Sounds like my boy Dean Gore could be part of the trade to get Paddy to Moggs Creek.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: powersuperkents on October 12, 2015, 12:29:43 PM
Quote from: Nige on October 12, 2015, 12:12:19 PM
Sounds like my boy Dean Gore could be part of the trade to get Paddy to Moggs Creek.
+1

That would be awesome for my fantasy side. Should get bulk time at the Crows with Danger gone (I see him being rotated with Matt Crouch throughout the season - pretty comparable players, Matt's only got AFL experience over him).
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Nige on October 12, 2015, 12:45:46 PM
Few other things that I haven't seen mentioned in this thread.

The Advertiser reckons Mitch Grigg is trade bait.

Chris Pelcan said on 1116 SEN that Jed Anderson has nominated West Coast as his club of choice.

Peter Ryan is reporting that Adelaide will also secure talented South Aussie, Dean Gore along with picks 9 and 28 for Patrick Dangerfield.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Bill Manspeaker on October 12, 2015, 12:47:50 PM
Nugey did you just make a spelling mistake? :P
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: RaisyDaisy on October 12, 2015, 12:51:51 PM
Happy to take Jed, but he couldn't get into the Hawks side regularly and I cant see him getting much of a sniff with us too

Scooter leaving helps a little, but we've got guys like Duggan and Cavka who will be knocking down the door eventually
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Football Factory on October 12, 2015, 12:52:39 PM
Quote from: Bill Manspeaker on October 12, 2015, 12:47:50 PM
Nugey did you just make a spelling mistake? :P
He forgot the 'i'   ;D
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: LF on October 12, 2015, 01:09:54 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on October 12, 2015, 12:51:51 PM
Happy to take Jed, but he couldn't get into the Hawks side regularly and I cant see him getting much of a sniff with us too

Scooter leaving helps a little, but we've got guys like Duggan and Cavka who will be knocking down the door eventually

Plus we have a perfectly good player in College who has asked to be traded because he can't get a game so unsure why Anderson has asked to come here
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Jay on October 12, 2015, 01:11:29 PM
Quote from: Nige on October 12, 2015, 12:45:46 PM
Few other things that I haven't seen mentioned in this thread.

The Advertiser reckons Mitch Grigg is trade bait.

Chris Pelcan said on 1116 SEN that Jed Anderson has nominated West Coast as his club of choice.

Peter Ryan is reporting that Adelaide will also secure talented South Aussie, Dean Gore along with picks 9 and 28 for Patrick Dangerfield.
(http://media.giphy.com/media/g1VNe4PufE2u4/giphy.gif)
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: elephants on October 12, 2015, 01:19:38 PM
I'm very keen on Anderson. He's had some issues meaning he can't get on the track regularly but literally every Hawks fan rates him and he's rated highly internally clearly. I reckon he could have a real impact for us in future years.

LF, Colledge and Anderson aren't really comparable players. Colledge is a big bodied midfielder while Anderson is a pacey goal-kicking mid. There's different players ahead of them at each side and our need for outside pace is huge compared to Hawthorn (who have Hill, Smith, Hartung, Sicily, etc).
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Ringo on October 12, 2015, 01:20:31 PM
Quote from: LF on October 12, 2015, 01:09:54 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on October 12, 2015, 12:51:51 PM
Happy to take Jed, but he couldn't get into the Hawks side regularly and I cant see him getting much of a sniff with us too

Scooter leaving helps a little, but we've got guys like Duggan and Cavka who will be knocking down the door eventually

Plus we have a perfectly good player in College who has asked to be traded because he can't get a game so unsure why Anderson has asked to come here
And do not forget Jack Redden has nominated Eagles as club of choice as well.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Ricochet on October 12, 2015, 01:23:48 PM
AFL Trade News ‏@AFLTrade 
BREAKING: There is a chance Essendon's Brendan Goddard will be at another club next season. #AFL #AFLTrade

:o
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Bill Manspeaker on October 12, 2015, 01:26:11 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on October 12, 2015, 01:23:48 PM
AFL Trade News ‏@AFLTrade 
BREAKING: There is a chance Essendon's Brendan Goddard will be at another club next season. #AFL #AFLTrade

:o

hard to take em serious when they can't spell his name right
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Toga on October 12, 2015, 01:27:28 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on October 12, 2015, 01:23:48 PM
AFL Trade News ‏@AFLTrade 
BREAKING: There is a chance Essendon's Brendan Goddard will be at another club next season. #AFL #AFLTrade

:o

Hearing on any rumours as to who's after him? :o
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Football Factory on October 12, 2015, 01:29:24 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on October 12, 2015, 01:23:48 PM
AFL Trade News ‏@AFLTrade 
BREAKING: There is a chance Essendon's Brendan Goddard will be at another club next season. #AFL #AFLTrade

:o


Would be one of the strangest things to happen this trade period if it did. But that's not to say it couldn't ..
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Ricochet on October 12, 2015, 01:30:03 PM
Quote from: Toga on October 12, 2015, 01:27:28 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on October 12, 2015, 01:23:48 PM
AFL Trade News ‏@AFLTrade 
BREAKING: There is a chance Essendon's Brendan Goddard will be at another club next season. #AFL #AFLTrade

:o

Hearing on any rumours as to who's after him? :o
Only one mentioned North. Wouldn't expect anything to come of it though
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Football Factory on October 12, 2015, 01:30:32 PM
Quote from: Toga on October 12, 2015, 01:27:28 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on October 12, 2015, 01:23:48 PM
AFL Trade News ‏@AFLTrade 
BREAKING: There is a chance Essendon's Brendan Goddard will be at another club next season. #AFL #AFLTrade

:o

Hearing on any rumours as to who's after him? :o

Saints  ;D
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Nige on October 12, 2015, 01:30:43 PM
Quote from: Bill Manspeaker on October 12, 2015, 12:47:50 PM
Nugey did you just make a spelling mistake? :P
wut.

Where?
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Football Factory on October 12, 2015, 01:31:40 PM
Quote from: Nige on October 12, 2015, 01:30:43 PM
Quote from: Bill Manspeaker on October 12, 2015, 12:47:50 PM
Nugey did you just make a spelling mistake? :P
wut.

Where?

Chris Pelican .. I think ?
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Bill Manspeaker on October 12, 2015, 01:33:53 PM
Quote from: FOOTBALL FACTORY on October 12, 2015, 01:31:40 PM
Quote from: Nige on October 12, 2015, 01:30:43 PM
Quote from: Bill Manspeaker on October 12, 2015, 12:47:50 PM
Nugey did you just make a spelling mistake? :P
wut.

Where?

Chris Pelican .. I think ?

yep, but Pelchen :P
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Nige on October 12, 2015, 01:34:53 PM
Quote from: Bill Manspeaker on October 12, 2015, 01:33:53 PM
Quote from: FOOTBALL FACTORY on October 12, 2015, 01:31:40 PM
Quote from: Nige on October 12, 2015, 01:30:43 PM
Quote from: Bill Manspeaker on October 12, 2015, 12:47:50 PM
Nugey did you just make a spelling mistake? :P
wut.

Where?

Chris Pelican .. I think ?

yep, but Pelchen :P
Oh, I copied it from a Facebook page and didn't even realise.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Football Factory on October 12, 2015, 01:36:39 PM
Quote from: Nige on October 12, 2015, 01:34:53 PM
Quote from: Bill Manspeaker on October 12, 2015, 01:33:53 PM
Quote from: FOOTBALL FACTORY on October 12, 2015, 01:31:40 PM
Quote from: Nige on October 12, 2015, 01:30:43 PM
Quote from: Bill Manspeaker on October 12, 2015, 12:47:50 PM
Nugey did you just make a spelling mistake? :P
wut.

Where?

Chris Pelican .. I think ?

yep, but Pelchen :P
Oh, I copied it from a Facebook page and didn't even realise.

I meant to do that Nugey  :)
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Bill Manspeaker on October 12, 2015, 01:37:28 PM
Quote from: Nige on October 12, 2015, 01:34:53 PM
Quote from: Bill Manspeaker on October 12, 2015, 01:33:53 PM
Quote from: FOOTBALL FACTORY on October 12, 2015, 01:31:40 PM
Quote from: Nige on October 12, 2015, 01:30:43 PM
Quote from: Bill Manspeaker on October 12, 2015, 12:47:50 PM
Nugey did you just make a spelling mistake? :P
wut.

Where?

Chris Pelican .. I think ?

yep, but Pelchen :P
Oh, I copied it from a Facebook page and didn't even realise.
unless there really is a Chris Pelcan, in that case, don't mind me :P
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Bill Manspeaker on October 12, 2015, 01:54:49 PM
Danger to Geelong trade is done
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Ringo on October 12, 2015, 02:00:22 PM
Quote from: Bill Manspeaker on October 12, 2015, 01:54:49 PM
Danger to Geelong trade is done
Confirmation and details of trade

Trade: Adelaide has sent Patrick Dangerfield and current pick 50 to Geelong, for the Cats’ current picks 9, 28 and Dean Gore.

Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Grazz on October 12, 2015, 02:27:32 PM
Quote from: Ringo on October 12, 2015, 02:00:22 PM
Quote from: Bill Manspeaker on October 12, 2015, 01:54:49 PM
Danger to Geelong trade is done
Confirmation and details of trade

Trade: Adelaide has sent Patrick Dangerfield and current pick 50 to Geelong, for the Cats’ current picks 9, 28 and Dean Gore.

About a good a deal as we could do i think.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Bill Manspeaker on October 12, 2015, 02:36:34 PM
Quote from: Grazz on October 12, 2015, 02:27:32 PM
Quote from: Ringo on October 12, 2015, 02:00:22 PM
Quote from: Bill Manspeaker on October 12, 2015, 01:54:49 PM
Danger to Geelong trade is done
Confirmation and details of trade

Trade: Adelaide has sent Patrick Dangerfield and current pick 50 to Geelong, for the Cats’ current picks 9, 28 and Dean Gore.

About a good a deal as we could do i think.

reckon Adelaide should have asked for/got Geelong's 2016 1st pick instead of the 28
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Barra13 on October 12, 2015, 02:46:29 PM
Jeremy Howe has requested a trade.

Source: Jay Clark twitter.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: TomK on October 12, 2015, 03:43:35 PM
Quote from: Bill Manspeaker on October 12, 2015, 02:36:34 PM
Quote from: Grazz on October 12, 2015, 02:27:32 PM
Quote from: Ringo on October 12, 2015, 02:00:22 PM
Quote from: Bill Manspeaker on October 12, 2015, 01:54:49 PM
Danger to Geelong trade is done
Confirmation and details of trade

Trade: Adelaide has sent Patrick Dangerfield and current pick 50 to Geelong, for the Cats’ current picks 9, 28 and Dean Gore.

About a good a deal as we could do i think.

reckon Adelaide should have asked for/got Geelong's 2016 1st pick instead of the 28
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: TomK on October 12, 2015, 03:44:51 PM
Well Gore is better than GHS. About the only positive I can think of. :'(
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: LF on October 12, 2015, 03:48:13 PM
Quote from: elephants on October 12, 2015, 01:19:38 PM
I'm very keen on Anderson. He's had some issues meaning he can't get on the track regularly but literally every Hawks fan rates him and he's rated highly internally clearly. I reckon he could have a real impact for us in future years.

LF, Colledge and Anderson aren't really comparable players. Colledge is a big bodied midfielder while Anderson is a pacey goal-kicking mid. There's different players ahead of them at each side and our need for outside pace is huge compared to Hawthorn (who have Hill, Smith, Hartung, Sicily, etc).

Yeah they are but just making a point that we have a good mid wanting to leave because he can't get a game haha
But I don't mind if we get Anderson he looks alright
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: powersuperkents on October 12, 2015, 04:11:07 PM
Quote from: TomK on October 12, 2015, 03:44:51 PM
Well Gore is better than GHS. About the only positive I can think of. :'(
+1

Decent return getting Dean Gore. He's workhorse as a contested mid with the ability to play off half-back. Would prefer him over GHS any day of the week (he also looks like a ranga version of Hartlett)
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Ricochet on October 12, 2015, 04:14:11 PM
Leuey confirms Essendon as his club
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Pkbaldy on October 12, 2015, 04:15:52 PM
Reading on twitter that Adelaide's Pick 9 and Pick 13 could be heading to the Saints for Pick 5 and Pick 24.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Ricochet on October 12, 2015, 04:22:35 PM
Official Conformation

Melbourne have traded Pick 25 to Essendon for Jake Melksham.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Southstorm on October 12, 2015, 04:22:59 PM
That'd work out very well for St. Kilda, but I don't know about the Crows.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Grazz on October 12, 2015, 04:25:12 PM
Quote from: Pkbaldy on October 12, 2015, 04:15:52 PM
Reading on twitter that Adelaide's Pick 9 and Pick 13 could be heading to the Saints for Pick 5 and Pick 24.

Can't see why we'd want to do that really.  :-\
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Southstorm on October 12, 2015, 04:27:13 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on October 12, 2015, 04:22:35 PM
Official Conformation

Melbourne have traded Pick 25 to Essendon for Jake Melksham.
Excellent. Glad that trade is over and done with
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Rusty00 on October 12, 2015, 04:30:33 PM
Quote from: Grazz on October 12, 2015, 04:25:12 PM
Quote from: Pkbaldy on October 12, 2015, 04:15:52 PM
Reading on twitter that Adelaide's Pick 9 and Pick 13 could be heading to the Saints for Pick 5 and Pick 24.

Can't see why we'd want to do that really.  :-\
Must be someone the Crows really want at Pick 5 and don't think will be there at Pick 9?
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Southstorm on October 12, 2015, 04:33:55 PM
Quote from: Rusty00 on October 12, 2015, 04:30:33 PM
Quote from: Grazz on October 12, 2015, 04:25:12 PM
Quote from: Pkbaldy on October 12, 2015, 04:15:52 PM
Reading on twitter that Adelaide's Pick 9 and Pick 13 could be heading to the Saints for Pick 5 and Pick 24.

Can't see why we'd want to do that really.  :-\
Must be someone the Crows really want at Pick 5 and don't think will be there at Pick 9?
I guess that'd be Francis.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Mat0369 on October 12, 2015, 04:39:37 PM
AFL.com says Hawks have cooled off on Yaz and the discussions were just preliminary talks a couple of weeks back
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Grazz on October 12, 2015, 04:41:11 PM
Quote from: Rusty00 on October 12, 2015, 04:30:33 PM
Quote from: Grazz on October 12, 2015, 04:25:12 PM
Quote from: Pkbaldy on October 12, 2015, 04:15:52 PM
Reading on twitter that Adelaide's Pick 9 and Pick 13 could be heading to the Saints for Pick 5 and Pick 24.

Can't see why we'd want to do that really.  :-\
Must be someone the Crows really want at Pick 5 and don't think will be there at Pick 9?

This is the only reason that makes sense, it's not a very big draft pool this year you'd think clubs would be wanting to keep as many first round picks as they can considering it's not a deep draft.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Toga on October 12, 2015, 04:42:36 PM
Yeah I was thinking it must be because the Crows think they can land Francis at 5.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: powersuperkents on October 12, 2015, 04:48:41 PM
Quote from: Southstorm on October 12, 2015, 04:33:55 PM
Quote from: Rusty00 on October 12, 2015, 04:30:33 PM
Quote from: Grazz on October 12, 2015, 04:25:12 PM
Quote from: Pkbaldy on October 12, 2015, 04:15:52 PM
Reading on twitter that Adelaide's Pick 9 and Pick 13 could be heading to the Saints for Pick 5 and Pick 24.

Can't see why we'd want to do that really.  :-\
Must be someone the Crows really want at Pick 5 and don't think will be there at Pick 9?
I guess that'd be Francis.
+1
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Purple 77 on October 12, 2015, 04:53:59 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on October 12, 2015, 04:22:35 PM
Official Conformation

Melbourne have traded Pick 25 to Essendon for Jake Melksham.

I don't wanna conform!
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: kilbluff1985 on October 12, 2015, 05:02:12 PM
so i wonder if Saints plan to do that then trade 9 for Carlisle
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Torpedo10 on October 12, 2015, 05:04:20 PM
Quote from: Purple 77 on October 12, 2015, 04:53:59 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on October 12, 2015, 04:22:35 PM
Official Conformation

Melbourne have traded Pick 25 to Essendon for Jake Melksham.

I don't wanna conform!
So happy to finally get rid of him, always been a massive sook.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Bill Manspeaker on October 12, 2015, 05:04:42 PM
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on October 12, 2015, 05:02:12 PM
so i wonder if Saints plan to do that then trade 9 13 for Carlisle
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Southstorm on October 12, 2015, 05:04:51 PM
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on October 12, 2015, 05:02:12 PM
so i wonder if Saints plan to do that then trade 9 for Carlisle
They'd lowball and trade 13.

We'd sort of have to take 13 if they offered it I guess. Unlike losing pick 24 and some average saints kid, 13 is sort of too valuable to say no to given the alternative is nothing.

13 for Carlisle sucks but it's better than nothing.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: RaisyDaisy on October 12, 2015, 05:20:25 PM
Scott Selwood officially a Cat

WCE didn't match offer, so will get compo pick
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Mat0369 on October 12, 2015, 05:23:15 PM
Next years first round pick to Carlton for Hendo I would expect isn't too far off. I like that because it has the potential to be better then this years when this blows up in their face.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: RaisyDaisy on October 12, 2015, 05:25:50 PM
Sydney offered Jetta for Sinclair but WCE knocked it back, however

@barrettdamian: "Does there come a point you entertain a big offer for Sinclair?" Vozzo (Eagles): "I think so." #NABTradeRadio
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Pkbaldy on October 12, 2015, 05:26:37 PM
Quote from: Southstorm on October 12, 2015, 05:04:51 PM
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on October 12, 2015, 05:02:12 PM
so i wonder if Saints plan to do that then trade 9 for Carlisle
They'd lowball and trade 13.

We'd sort of have to take 13 if they offered it I guess. Unlike losing pick 24 and some average saints kid, 13 is sort of too valuable to say no to given the alternative is nothing.

13 for Carlisle sucks but it's better than nothing.

I thought 9 more Carlisle would be fair. Still a fair few gems at 13. But atleast with 9, Balic could still be a chance. 13....Tucker maybe?
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: elephants on October 12, 2015, 05:27:25 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on October 12, 2015, 05:20:25 PM
Scott Selwood officially a Cat

WCE didn't match offer, so will get compo pick

Guess we are assuming the compo we will get is better than what the Cats could offer us... Club saying they expect a first rounder but I'm not that confident about that...

Quote from: RaisyDaisy on October 12, 2015, 05:25:50 PM
Sydney offered Jetta for Sinclair but WCE knocked it back, however

@barrettdamian: "Does there come a point you entertain a big offer for Sinclair?" Vozzo (Eagles): "I think so." #NABTradeRadio

Very very interesting, would have to be a pretty big offer though given the year he's had, his age and his importance to our side.

#Fyfe4Sinclair
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: TomK on October 12, 2015, 05:27:49 PM
Quote from: Mat0369 on October 12, 2015, 05:23:15 PM
Next years first round pick to Carlton for Hendo I would expect isn't too far off. I like that because it has the potential to be better then this years when this blows up in their face.
Yes please! ;D
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: RaisyDaisy on October 12, 2015, 05:28:31 PM
Quote from: elephants on October 12, 2015, 05:27:25 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on October 12, 2015, 05:20:25 PM
Scott Selwood officially a Cat

WCE didn't match offer, so will get compo pick

Guess we are assuming the compo we will get is better than what the Cats could offer us... Club saying they expect a first rounder but I'm not that confident about that...

Quote from: RaisyDaisy on October 12, 2015, 05:25:50 PM
Sydney offered Jetta for Sinclair but WCE knocked it back, however

@barrettdamian: "Does there come a point you entertain a big offer for Sinclair?" Vozzo (Eagles): "I think so." #NABTradeRadio

Very very interesting, would have to be a pretty big offer though given the year he's had, his age and his importance to our side.

#Fyfe4Sinclair

Vozzo said a pick "after" our first rounder would be fair
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: AaronKirk on October 12, 2015, 05:29:31 PM
Quote from: Mat0369 on October 12, 2015, 05:23:15 PM
Next years first round pick to Carlton for Hendo I would expect isn't too far off. I like that because it has the potential to be better then this years when this blows up in their face.

Sounds about right. A pick from 15-20ish is about market value for Henderson.

Whether there is enough market interest from other clubs to make the cats pay that much is an other question.

I suspect Cats will get him near the end of the trade period for much cheaper as there seems to be not a lot of other interest elsewhere for him.

Quote from: elephants on October 12, 2015, 05:27:25 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on October 12, 2015, 05:20:25 PM
Scott Selwood officially a Cat

WCE didn't match offer, so will get compo pick

Guess we are assuming the compo we will get is better than what the Cats could offer us... Club saying they expect a first rounder but I'm not that confident about that...

Quote from: RaisyDaisy on October 12, 2015, 05:25:50 PM
Sydney offered Jetta for Sinclair but WCE knocked it back, however

@barrettdamian: "Does there come a point you entertain a big offer for Sinclair?" Vozzo (Eagles): "I think so." #NABTradeRadio

Very very interesting, would have to be a pretty big offer though given the year he's had, his age and his importance to our side.

#Fyfe4Sinclair

Long term only giving West Coast Jetta for Sinclair is not a fair deal for a talented ruck. Swans probably need to add a pick to get the deal done.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: elephants on October 12, 2015, 05:38:24 PM
I expect we will secure Jetta separately (probably for our second rounder), then field offers for Sinclair once that has been completed.

I don't think we should be mixing the two when Sinclair seems happy enough to stay and Jetta wants a trade home. We have all the leverage.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: silloc on October 12, 2015, 05:43:07 PM
Quote from: elephants on October 12, 2015, 05:38:24 PM
I expect we will secure Jetta separately (probably for our second rounder), then field offers for Sinclair once that has been completed.

I don't think we should be mixing the two when Sinclair seems happy enough to stay and Jetta wants a trade home. We have all the leverage.

I'd go as far as saying that Sydney have to offer up their 1st pick.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: elephants on October 12, 2015, 06:08:10 PM
Quote from: silloc on October 12, 2015, 05:43:07 PM
Quote from: elephants on October 12, 2015, 05:38:24 PM
I expect we will secure Jetta separately (probably for our second rounder), then field offers for Sinclair once that has been completed.

I don't think we should be mixing the two when Sinclair seems happy enough to stay and Jetta wants a trade home. We have all the leverage.

I'd go as far as saying that Sydney have to offer up their 1st pick.

Scrap that, we'll package ours with Sinclair for Parker 8)
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Big Mac on October 12, 2015, 06:11:35 PM
I really can't get excited about Melksham

Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: elephants on October 12, 2015, 06:14:52 PM
Emma Quayle@emmasq
Jack Redden is on his way to West Coast for the Eagles' first pick in the draft, No. 17. Pretty much done.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: fanTCfool on October 12, 2015, 06:16:36 PM
Quote from: elephants on October 12, 2015, 06:14:52 PM
Emma Quayle@emmasq
Jack Redden is on his way to West Coast for the Eagles' first pick in the draft, No. 17. Pretty much done.

West Coast trade S. Selwood for Redden?
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: elephants on October 12, 2015, 06:21:07 PM
Quote from: fanTCfool on October 12, 2015, 06:16:36 PM
Quote from: elephants on October 12, 2015, 06:14:52 PM
Emma Quayle@emmasq
Jack Redden is on his way to West Coast for the Eagles' first pick in the draft, No. 17. Pretty much done.

West Coast trade S. Selwood for Redden?

If we get the end of first round concession, which although is what the club expects, I'd deem unlikely unless the Cats are giving Selwood big $$.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Purple 77 on October 12, 2015, 06:40:05 PM
Quote from: Big  Mac on October 12, 2015, 06:11:35 PM
I really can't get excited about Melksham
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: LF on October 12, 2015, 06:43:46 PM
So we got pick 37 for Scooter

AFL ‏@AFL  9m9 minutes ago
The League also advised WC that based on his age & Geelong's contract offer the club will receive a round 2 compensation pick (curr pick 37)
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: powersuperkents on October 12, 2015, 06:58:10 PM
Quote from: LF on October 12, 2015, 06:43:46 PM
So we got pick 37 for Scooter

AFL ‏@AFL  9m9 minutes ago
The League also advised WC that based on his age & Geelong's contract offer the club will receive a round 2 compensation pick (curr pick 37)
Won't it get pushed to pick 38 once the Lions receive Luey compo? (I'd say they would get a 2nd rounder for him)
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: LF on October 12, 2015, 07:00:19 PM
Quote from: powersuperkents on October 12, 2015, 06:58:10 PM
Quote from: LF on October 12, 2015, 06:43:46 PM
So we got pick 37 for Scooter

AFL ‏@AFL  9m9 minutes ago
The League also advised WC that based on his age & Geelong's contract offer the club will receive a round 2 compensation pick (curr pick 37)
Won't it get pushed to pick 38 once the Lions receive Luey compo? (I'd say they would get a 2nd rounder for him)
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: My Chumps on October 12, 2015, 07:10:07 PM
You were supposed to come to Sydney Leuy :(

Fingers crossed we nab Sinclair now (or even better Lycett tbh).
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: powersuperkents on October 12, 2015, 07:19:40 PM
Quote from: My Chumps on October 12, 2015, 07:10:07 PM
You were supposed to come to Sydney Leuy :(

Fingers crossed we nab Sinclair now (or even better Lycett tbh).
Not sure why the Swans are not trading for Lycett. The Eagles would accept a Lycett for Jetta trade. They may even add a late draft pick to it. It works for both teams imo

The Eagles want the premiership and they are more likely to win it with Sinclair rather than a young Lycett

The Swans want a sustainable ruck, and a 26 year old is a short-term solution (as they will most likely fall from the top 4 next season, while still coming 5-7th, with Goodes & Jetta's departures and Richmond or North Melbourne's likely rises). They can become a power house team for the long-term with Lycett & Nankervis lined up so I don't know why they are so attached to Sinclair

I feel as if Swans fans hold the same perspective about this as well 

Additionally, I know some people are going to disagree with this, but I don't think Sinclair is sole ruck material. I think the reason he was so good this season is because Adam Simpson's decision to rotate him with Nic Nat (honestly seemed like Nic Nat was in the ruck around 25% of the time in the latter part of the season, and even then his influence at hitouts was significantly more substantial than that of Sinclairs. He's a fantastic R2, but I don't think he would be able to handle sole rucking duties)
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: RaisyDaisy on October 12, 2015, 07:21:18 PM
Quote from: powersuperkents on October 12, 2015, 07:19:40 PM
Quote from: My Chumps on October 12, 2015, 07:10:07 PM
You were supposed to come to Sydney Leuy :(

Fingers crossed we nab Sinclair now (or even better Lycett tbh).
Not sure why the Swans are not trading for Lycett. The Eagles would accept a Lycett for Jetta trade. They may even add a late draft pick to it. It works for both teams imo

The Eagles want the premiership and they are more likely to win it with Sinclair rather than a young Lycett

The Swans want a sustainable ruck, and a 26 year old is a short-term solution (as they will most likely fall from the top 4 next season, while still coming 5-7th, with Goodes & Jetta's departures and Richmond or North Melbourne's likely rises). They can become a power house team for the long-term with Lycett & Nankervis lined up so I don't know why they are so attached to Sinclair

I feel as if Swans fans hold the same perspective about this as well

But why should we give them either?

Jetta wants to leave 2nd round pick is enough. We don't need to be nice and just give away a good ruck. As Ele said, we've got the power and don't need to surrender to their requests for Jetta
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: powersuperkents on October 12, 2015, 07:24:37 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on October 12, 2015, 07:21:18 PM
Quote from: powersuperkents on October 12, 2015, 07:19:40 PM
Quote from: My Chumps on October 12, 2015, 07:10:07 PM
You were supposed to come to Sydney Leuy :(

Fingers crossed we nab Sinclair now (or even better Lycett tbh).
Not sure why the Swans are not trading for Lycett. The Eagles would accept a Lycett for Jetta trade. They may even add a late draft pick to it. It works for both teams imo

The Eagles want the premiership and they are more likely to win it with Sinclair rather than a young Lycett

The Swans want a sustainable ruck, and a 26 year old is a short-term solution (as they will most likely fall from the top 4 next season, while still coming 5-7th, with Goodes & Jetta's departures and Richmond or North Melbourne's likely rises). They can become a power house team for the long-term with Lycett & Nankervis lined up so I don't know why they are so attached to Sinclair

I feel as if Swans fans hold the same perspective about this as well

But why should we give them either?

Jetta wants to leave 2nd round pick is enough. We don't need to be nice and just give away a good ruck. As Ele said, we've got the power and don't need to surrender to their requests for Jetta
Yeah I know, it was more directed to Sydney to try

I don't think the Swans have any leverage so I would agree that a 2nd rounder is the most likely outcome. Plus Simpson really rates his rucks and considers them required players (I don't know whether it's personal values or a West Coast tradition - the club always had an AFL leading ruck since I started watching - although, it was always Dean Cox & Gardiner for a while)
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Ricochet on October 12, 2015, 07:25:53 PM
Quote from: powersuperkents on October 12, 2015, 07:19:40 PM
Quote from: My Chumps on October 12, 2015, 07:10:07 PM
You were supposed to come to Sydney Leuy :(

Fingers crossed we nab Sinclair now (or even better Lycett tbh).
Not sure why the Swans are not trading for Lycett. The Eagles would accept a Lycett for Jetta trade. They may even add a late draft pick to it. It works for both teams imo

The Eagles want the premiership and they are more likely to win it with Sinclair rather than a young Lycett
THere's only a few years between the two and they've played similar amount of games. Swans would be happy with either, and Eagles wouldn't want to lose either
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: T Dog on October 12, 2015, 07:28:04 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on October 12, 2015, 07:21:18 PM
Quote from: powersuperkents on October 12, 2015, 07:19:40 PM
Quote from: My Chumps on October 12, 2015, 07:10:07 PM
You were supposed to come to Sydney Leuy :(

Fingers crossed we nab Sinclair now (or even better Lycett tbh).
Not sure why the Swans are not trading for Lycett. The Eagles would accept a Lycett for Jetta trade. They may even add a late draft pick to it. It works for both teams imo

The Eagles want the premiership and they are more likely to win it with Sinclair rather than a young Lycett

The Swans want a sustainable ruck, and a 26 year old is a short-term solution (as they will most likely fall from the top 4 next season, while still coming 5-7th, with Goodes & Jetta's departures and Richmond or North Melbourne's likely rises). They can become a power house team for the long-term with Lycett & Nankervis lined up so I don't know why they are so attached to Sinclair

I feel as if Swans fans hold the same perspective about this as well

But why should we give them either?

Jetta wants to leave 2nd round pick is enough. We don't need to be nice and just give away a good ruck. As Ele said, we've got the power and don't need to surrender to their requests for Jetta

If you were really skeptical... perhaps all the list managers are all good friends?
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: LF on October 12, 2015, 08:19:14 PM
Patrick Keane ‏@AFL_PKeane  29m29 minutes ago
AFL has received formal trade paperwork:
Brisbane Lions exchange Jack Redden to West Coast for its rd1 pick (currently number 17).

Deal done Redden is officially an Eagle
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Money Shot on October 12, 2015, 08:41:13 PM
Just a thought but do you reckon a straight swap with Josh Walker and Zac Smith could happen? Both needed at the clubs and probably worth the same?

Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: powersuperkents on October 12, 2015, 08:42:08 PM
Quote from: Money Shot on October 12, 2015, 08:41:13 PM
Just a thought but do you reckon a straight swap with Josh Walker and Zac Smith could happen? Both needed at the clubs and probably worth the same?
I agree, they are both worth nothing  :P
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: powersuperkents on October 12, 2015, 08:44:05 PM
In other news, the Suns are asking for more than pick 10 for Charlie Dixon. I think that if Port gave them any more it would be paying serious overs for Charlie Dixon. Pick 10 for Dixon is arguably overs as is (the fact he has shown potential and is a key forward are the only real arguments justifying the surrender of pick 10).
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: elephants on October 12, 2015, 08:46:28 PM
I don't think Pick 10 is overs for Port, but I also don't see what they could add that GC would want without making it overs.

I still really rate Zac Smith if he can get his body right
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: tbagrocks on October 12, 2015, 08:53:32 PM
Quote from: elephants on October 12, 2015, 08:46:28 PM
I don't think Pick 10 is overs for Port, but I also don't see what they could add that GC would want without making it overs.

I still really rate Zac Smith if he can get his body right
Yeah really thought the negative reviews of Smith were a little unfair! I think he's a fine, tall, agile and untapped ruckman!

Clubs will know what they are doing, Smith wont leave for free

Ports first pick for Dix? Fair!
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: powersuperkents on October 12, 2015, 08:58:44 PM
Quote from: tbagrocks on October 12, 2015, 08:53:32 PM
Quote from: elephants on October 12, 2015, 08:46:28 PM
I don't think Pick 10 is overs for Port, but I also don't see what they could add that GC would want without making it overs.

I still really rate Zac Smith if he can get his body right
Yeah really thought the negative reviews of Smith were a little unfair! I think he's a fine, tall, agile and untapped ruckman!

Clubs will know what they are doing, Smith wont leave for free

Ports first pick for Dix? Fair!
I would honestly be over the moon with pick 10 for Dixon

I just don't want to add anything because I want Toumpas as well (I don't honestly know why hahahaha, I think he's one of the bigger draft busts over the last 5 years - yet it seems like he could be resurrected is a similar way to Polec)
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: JBs-Hawks on October 12, 2015, 09:08:00 PM
Only a port fan would say that pick 10 is overs lol
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: LF on October 12, 2015, 09:12:37 PM
Don't think this has been posted

Patrick Keane ‏@AFL_PKeane  2h2 hours ago
AFL has also advised Hawthorn that based on Suckling's age & WBull contract offer,club to receive an end r2 compensation pick (curr pick 39)
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Kellogscrunchynut on October 12, 2015, 09:18:17 PM
Quote from: LF on October 12, 2015, 09:12:37 PM
Don't think this has been posted

Patrick Keane ‏@AFL_PKeane  2h2 hours ago
AFL has also advised Hawthorn that based on Suckling's age & WBull contract offer,club to receive an end r2 compensation pick (curr pick 39)
Pretty fair.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: tbagrocks on October 12, 2015, 09:29:42 PM
Why are the hawthorn cheats getting any compo? ???
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: JBs-Hawks on October 12, 2015, 09:37:18 PM
Quote from: tbagrocks on October 12, 2015, 09:29:42 PM
Why are the hawthorn cheats getting any compo? ???

Because it is the rules of free agency.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Purple 77 on October 12, 2015, 09:43:58 PM
Quote from: powersuperkents on October 12, 2015, 08:58:44 PM
Quote from: tbagrocks on October 12, 2015, 08:53:32 PM
Quote from: elephants on October 12, 2015, 08:46:28 PM
I don't think Pick 10 is overs for Port, but I also don't see what they could add that GC would want without making it overs.

I still really rate Zac Smith if he can get his body right
Yeah really thought the negative reviews of Smith were a little unfair! I think he's a fine, tall, agile and untapped ruckman!

Clubs will know what they are doing, Smith wont leave for free

Ports first pick for Dix? Fair!
I would honestly be over the moon with pick 10 for Dixon

I just don't want to add anything because I want Toumpas as well (I don't honestly know why hahahaha, I think he's one of the bigger draft busts over the last 5 years - yet it seems like he could be resurrected is a similar way to Polec)

I've quoted it now. It's on the Internent forever, waiting to be brought up at the appropriate time in the future  :P
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Big Mac on October 12, 2015, 09:51:38 PM
2nd round compo is fair for Selwood

Not sure why Nisbett is throwing a fit
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Jukes on October 12, 2015, 09:52:14 PM
Quote from: Purple 77 on October 12, 2015, 09:43:58 PM
Quote from: powersuperkents on October 12, 2015, 08:58:44 PM
Quote from: tbagrocks on October 12, 2015, 08:53:32 PM
Quote from: elephants on October 12, 2015, 08:46:28 PM
I don't think Pick 10 is overs for Port, but I also don't see what they could add that GC would want without making it overs.

I still really rate Zac Smith if he can get his body right
Yeah really thought the negative reviews of Smith were a little unfair! I think he's a fine, tall, agile and untapped ruckman!

Clubs will know what they are doing, Smith wont leave for free

Ports first pick for Dix? Fair!
I would honestly be over the moon with pick 10 for Dixon

I just don't want to add anything because I want Toumpas as well (I don't honestly know why hahahaha, I think he's one of the bigger draft busts over the last 5 years - yet it seems like he could be resurrected is a similar way to Polec)

I've quoted it now. It's on the Internent forever, waiting to be brought up at the appropriate time in the future  :P

Considering he's played 27 games in 3 years for a cellar-dwelling team despite no real big injuries, definitely on track to be a big bust. Taken ahead of Wines, Stringer, Macrae, Vlastuin, Grundy, Rampe, Ceglar, Sinkers...will have to turn it around big time soon.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Ringo on October 12, 2015, 10:05:21 PM
So based on the compo picks so far Suckling and Selwood are equal value based on age and contracts. Interesting rulings by the AFL on the free agency.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Mat0369 on October 12, 2015, 11:44:56 PM
I would say that while Suckling is older, he is getting more cash. I can't see Selwood making over 400k so it seems about right.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: powersuperkents on October 13, 2015, 12:10:13 AM
Quote from: Purple 77 on October 12, 2015, 09:43:58 PM
Quote from: powersuperkents on October 12, 2015, 08:58:44 PM
Quote from: tbagrocks on October 12, 2015, 08:53:32 PM
Quote from: elephants on October 12, 2015, 08:46:28 PM
I don't think Pick 10 is overs for Port, but I also don't see what they could add that GC would want without making it overs.

I still really rate Zac Smith if he can get his body right
Yeah really thought the negative reviews of Smith were a little unfair! I think he's a fine, tall, agile and untapped ruckman!

Clubs will know what they are doing, Smith wont leave for free

Ports first pick for Dix? Fair!
I would honestly be over the moon with pick 10 for Dixon

I just don't want to add anything because I want Toumpas as well (I don't honestly know why hahahaha, I think he's one of the bigger draft busts over the last 5 years - yet it seems like he could be resurrected is a similar way to Polec)

I've quoted it now. It's on the Internent forever, waiting to be brought up at the appropriate time in the future  :P
Flower  :P

He is a spud, I'm not sure what is even good about him... is he fast or technically advanced? I don't know where he'll play at Port, but surely Hinkley can turn his career around (I honestly see him in the SANFL in 2016). There had to be something special about him, some kind of niche, to warrant a pick 4 selection (unless the Demons only selected him because he was the captain of the SA team and thought he would be a good leader).

I would honestly be happy if Port parted with our 2nd rounder or Aaron Young/Andrew Moore (similar to Toumpas - just no hype surrounding him) for a shot at a potentially better player
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: kilbluff1985 on October 13, 2015, 12:33:09 AM
so i have a question about future pick trading and father/sons

lets say a team trades next years 1st rounder know they might have to use it on a father/son player

by trading it does that mean if a team bids for the player in the 1st round do they only have to use their 2nd rounder since it's their first pick
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Big Mac on October 13, 2015, 12:35:23 AM
Quote from: powersuperkents on October 13, 2015, 12:10:13 AM
Quote from: Purple 77 on October 12, 2015, 09:43:58 PM
Quote from: powersuperkents on October 12, 2015, 08:58:44 PM
Quote from: tbagrocks on October 12, 2015, 08:53:32 PM
Quote from: elephants on October 12, 2015, 08:46:28 PM
I don't think Pick 10 is overs for Port, but I also don't see what they could add that GC would want without making it overs.

I still really rate Zac Smith if he can get his body right
Yeah really thought the negative reviews of Smith were a little unfair! I think he's a fine, tall, agile and untapped ruckman!

Clubs will know what they are doing, Smith wont leave for free

Ports first pick for Dix? Fair!
I would honestly be over the moon with pick 10 for Dixon

I just don't want to add anything because I want Toumpas as well (I don't honestly know why hahahaha, I think he's one of the bigger draft busts over the last 5 years - yet it seems like he could be resurrected is a similar way to Polec)

I've quoted it now. It's on the Internent forever, waiting to be brought up at the appropriate time in the future  :P
Flower  :P

He is a spud, I'm not sure what is even good about him... is he fast or technically advanced? I don't know where he'll play at Port, but surely Hinkley can turn his career around (I honestly see him in the SANFL in 2016). There had to be something special about him, some kind of niche, to warrant a pick 4 selection (unless the Demons only selected him because he was the captain of the SA team and thought he would be a good leader).

I would honestly be happy if Port parted with our 2nd rounder or Aaron Young/Andrew Moore (similar to Toumpas - just no hype surrounding him) for a shot at a potentially better player

This is how he was rated around draft time

"Really damaging player with some versatility. Can take over and influence games as well as just about anyone in this draft and throughout the u18 champs for bursts really imposed himself on games which was impressive. Skill level excellent by both hand and foot, has that combination of hurt factor with the penetrating kick he has and clean ball use that will make him a big time weapon. Very capable of unloading for long goals. Consistently good decision maker. High level athlete and has that combination of explosive speed and agility that will make him desirable as well as in game work rate. Endurance excellent. Also has shown very early on that he can lift for the big games which is I strongly believe is something that he will take with him to AFL level. Can play as a midfielder, forward or back which is a big advantage but long term will no doubt develop into a midfielder. Has the ability to play both as an inside and outside midfielder. One important note with Toumpas is that throughout the u18 champs he was playing with hip problems so to play through injury and influence games in the way he did was very impressive."

Also worth noting that at the time Knightmare rated him only behind Whitfield

Long story short, he must have left all these qualities in Adelaide because Roos bloody well can't find them
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Big Mac on October 13, 2015, 12:37:41 AM
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on October 13, 2015, 12:33:09 AM
so i have a question about future pick trading and father/sons

lets say a team trades next years 1st rounder know they might have to use it on a father/son player

by trading it does that mean if a team bids for the player in the 1st round do they only have to use their 2nd rounder since it's their first pick

Interesting point

I'd assume they would miss out on the player, right?
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Spite on October 13, 2015, 12:42:09 AM
Quote from: Big  Mac on October 13, 2015, 12:37:41 AM
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on October 13, 2015, 12:33:09 AM
so i have a question about future pick trading and father/sons

lets say a team trades next years 1st rounder know they might have to use it on a father/son player

by trading it does that mean if a team bids for the player in the 1st round do they only have to use their 2nd rounder since it's their first pick

Interesting point

I'd assume they would miss out on the player, right?

Its a point system now. So if they had enough "points" from their 2nd,3rd,4th,5th picks all together to equal the bid of a 1st rounder then they'd get their player. But this is unlikely and they would have to probably miss out
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: kilbluff1985 on October 13, 2015, 12:46:31 AM
could they trade in a late 1st rounder to match it
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: powersuperkents on October 13, 2015, 01:16:54 AM
@Bigmac

Cheers mate, that was insightful. So the Demons didn't make the wrong decision because if sounded as if he was the best player in the lead up to the draft (barring Daniher & Whitfield). He just has not performed at AFL level, I still think a lot of teams would be willing to that a punt on Jimmy T (even the Demons said they want to hold onto him). I think he good be a valuable pick-up for Port (esp. in the long-term) but as our list is he is fourth priority (1) Dixon 2) Wingard contract 3) Wines contract 4) Jimmy T) but still 2nd priority in the trade period. I really hope Port can get him and Dixon (Young or Moore may benefit by returning home as well).
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: quinny88 on October 13, 2015, 01:18:01 AM
This has probably been answered a million times but I'll ask anyway.

For an example, Let's say Richmond decided to offer Carlton this years 2nd round draft pick and next years first round draft pick for Yarran then we had a shocking year, a bunch of injuries and managed to finish on the bottom. Does that mean we would then literally have to give up the number 1 draft pick to Carlton?
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Ricochet on October 13, 2015, 01:19:44 AM
Quote from: quinny88 on October 13, 2015, 01:18:01 AM
This has probably been answered a million times but I'll ask anyway.

For an example, Let's say Richmond decided to offer Carlton this years 2nd round draft pick and next years first round draft pick for Yarran then we had a shocking year, a bunch of injuries and managed to finish on the bottom. Does that mean we would then literally have to give up the number 1 draft pick to Carlton?
Yep :-X
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: kilbluff1985 on October 13, 2015, 02:07:19 AM
but yeah i was thinking if a club like Essendon who you would think will have another early pick next year

if they though they might have to use it on a father/son could they trade it to like a top 4 team for there 1st rounder and a player or 2nd rounder

seems smart if possible
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: meow meow on October 13, 2015, 05:32:04 AM
Here you go KB

(http://i.imgur.com/LvB2IPH.png)

Now let's say Essendon have pick 10 and have James Hird jnr as a father-son available.
The Dogs have pick 1 and bid that on Hird.

The AFL has settled on a maximum discount of 20 per cent for academy and father-son players in the first round. After that, the discount will be fixed at 197 points.

3000 with the 20% discount is 2400 points. Essendon must pay this if they want him. Next available pick was the old system (where clubs had to take F-S players before the trade period anyway).

Pick 10 makes up 1395. 1005 to go. Their 2nd and 3rd round picks are worth 1008 so they'd have to give up both of them too. If there were points left over then the 4th round pick would be moved to an earlier 4th round pick depending on how many leftover points there are. They'd get two extra picks at the end of the draft if they needed them to fill the list.

If they knew Jim jnr was going to attract a bid at pick 1 there's nothing stopping the Bombers from trading pick 10 for picks 20 and 21 in the trade period, since those two picks are worth more points than pick 10 alone.

Or if the Bombers had already traded pick 10 they could go into defecit and have to make up the rest of the points the next year. The maximum deficit will be 1723 points. If they wanted James II then it's likely that they'd give up picks 28 and 46 and be 1392 points in deficit, and it HAS TO be paid the following year to stop clubs from just rolling over the deficit year after year. So you'd probably still lose a first rounder/two second rounders (would have to trade one in) the next year.

Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: kilbluff1985 on October 13, 2015, 07:31:05 AM
thanks meow that's a very interesting strategy i wonder if many clubs are looking into it
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: nrich102 on October 13, 2015, 09:04:02 AM
Could Toumpas be almost like Polec? Polec didn't show a lot at Brisbane, but look where he is now at port. I think that the same coulee happen with Toumpas.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Purple 77 on October 13, 2015, 09:20:00 AM
Quote from: nrich102 on October 13, 2015, 09:04:02 AM
Could Toumpas be almost like Polec? Polec didn't show a lot at Brisbane, but look where he is now at port. I think that the same coulee happen with Toumpas.

I said the exact same thing, perhaps in my first ever rant about toumpas early last year...


But I'm actually ultra confident he is McCain's love child, ah McCain, you've done it again, and if he can't crack into melbourne's team... how the flower will he crack Port's team? Just won't happen. He's terrible.


I've already moved on to "Smells Ham" as my new whipping boy.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Money Shot on October 13, 2015, 09:29:38 AM
Quote from: Purple 77 on October 13, 2015, 09:20:00 AM
Quote from: nrich102 on October 13, 2015, 09:04:02 AM
Could Toumpas be almost like Polec? Polec didn't show a lot at Brisbane, but look where he is now at port. I think that the same coulee happen with Toumpas.

I said the exact same thing, perhaps in my first ever rant about toumpas early last year...


But I'm actually ultra confident he is McCain's love child, ah McCain, you've done it again, and if he can't crack into melbourne's team... how the flower will he crack Port's team? Just won't happen. He's terrible.


I've already moved on to "Smells Ham" as my new whipping boy.
Polec couldn't get into Brisbanes side and they won't much better :P
In saying that toumpas is shower so I don't see that happening!
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: nrich102 on October 13, 2015, 09:48:07 AM
Quote from: Money Shot on October 13, 2015, 09:29:38 AM
Quote from: Purple 77 on October 13, 2015, 09:20:00 AM
Quote from: nrich102 on October 13, 2015, 09:04:02 AM
Could Toumpas be almost like Polec? Polec didn't show a lot at Brisbane, but look where he is now at port. I think that the same coulee happen with Toumpas.

I said the exact same thing, perhaps in my first ever rant about toumpas early last year...


But I'm actually ultra confident he is McCain's love child, ah McCain, you've done it again, and if he can't crack into melbourne's team... how the flower will he crack Port's team? Just won't happen. He's terrible.


I've already moved on to "Smells Ham" as my new whipping boy.
Polec couldn't get into Brisbanes side and they won't much better :P
In saying that toumpas is shower so I don't see that happening!
But Polec was just as shower when he was at Brisbane.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Purple 77 on October 13, 2015, 09:52:55 AM
Quote from: nrich102 on October 13, 2015, 09:48:07 AM
Quote from: Money Shot on October 13, 2015, 09:29:38 AM
Quote from: Purple 77 on October 13, 2015, 09:20:00 AM
Quote from: nrich102 on October 13, 2015, 09:04:02 AM
Could Toumpas be almost like Polec? Polec didn't show a lot at Brisbane, but look where he is now at port. I think that the same coulee happen with Toumpas.

I said the exact same thing, perhaps in my first ever rant about toumpas early last year...


But I'm actually ultra confident he is McCain's love child, ah McCain, you've done it again, and if he can't crack into melbourne's team... how the flower will he crack Port's team? Just won't happen. He's terrible.


I've already moved on to "Smells Ham" as my new whipping boy.
Polec couldn't get into Brisbanes side and they won't much better :P
In saying that toumpas is shower so I don't see that happening!
But Polec was just as shower when he was at Brisbane.

Port Adelaide were also a different team back then.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: nrich102 on October 13, 2015, 10:18:02 AM
I don't get it. Why are West Coast so pissed that they get a second round pick in compensation for Selwood. No way Selwood is worth a first round pick, he's not even best 22.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Pkbaldy on October 13, 2015, 10:23:38 AM
Quote from: nrich102 on October 13, 2015, 10:18:02 AM
I don't get it. Why are West Coast so pissed that they get a second round pick in compensation for Selwood. No way Selwood is worth a first round pick, he's not even best 22.

Agreed. West Coast can't rate him too highly if they wouldnt play him in the granny. Probably only pissed off because they wanted to use the end of first rounder for Jetta.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Donnie Brasco on October 13, 2015, 10:40:21 AM
"Richmond will secure Giants midfielder Jacob Townsend in a trade this week," Michael Gleeson, The Age
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Holz on October 13, 2015, 10:45:26 AM
Quote from: powersuperkents on October 13, 2015, 01:16:54 AM
@Bigmac

Cheers mate, that was insightful. So the Demons didn't make the wrong decision because if sounded as if he was the best player in the lead up to the draft (barring Daniher & Whitfield). He just has not performed at AFL level, I still think a lot of teams would be willing to that a punt on Jimmy T (even the Demons said they want to hold onto him). I think he good be a valuable pick-up for Port (esp. in the long-term) but as our list is he is fourth priority (1) Dixon 2) Wingard contract 3) Wines contract 4) Jimmy T) but still 2nd priority in the trade period. I really hope Port can get him and Dixon (Young or Moore may benefit by returning home as well).

they did make a wrong decision.

they needed a big bodied guy ready to play straight away. At the time everyone was telling them to pick Wines it was very very obvious.

thats not even taking into account Viney and Wines where friends.

even Stringer was clealry a better player just had injuries that year or he would have went 1-2.



Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: RaisyDaisy on October 13, 2015, 10:45:31 AM
Quote from: Pkbaldy on October 13, 2015, 10:23:38 AM
Quote from: nrich102 on October 13, 2015, 10:18:02 AM
I don't get it. Why are West Coast so pissed that they get a second round pick in compensation for Selwood. No way Selwood is worth a first round pick, he's not even best 22.

Agreed. West Coast can't rate him too highly if they wouldnt play him in the granny. Probably only pissed off because they wanted to use the end of first rounder for Jetta.

There's no doubt his value is rated higher internally. He was a vice captain after all and spent 8 years at the club and is only 25 years old so entering the prime of his career

I think a pick in the late 20's would have been right.

The argument that he wasn't best 22 isn't completely valid, because he had injuries to deal with this year which makes it harder. I dare say that a full preseason would have had him starting next year
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: RaisyDaisy on October 13, 2015, 10:47:24 AM
As for The Toump, he is simply just a spud

Reminds me of Sipposs (A guy I called wouldn't make it years ago). Shows talent as a youngster but just cannot cut it in the big leagues.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Holz on October 13, 2015, 10:58:14 AM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on October 13, 2015, 10:45:31 AM
Quote from: Pkbaldy on October 13, 2015, 10:23:38 AM
Quote from: nrich102 on October 13, 2015, 10:18:02 AM
I don't get it. Why are West Coast so pissed that they get a second round pick in compensation for Selwood. No way Selwood is worth a first round pick, he's not even best 22.

Agreed. West Coast can't rate him too highly if they wouldnt play him in the granny. Probably only pissed off because they wanted to use the end of first rounder for Jetta.

There's no doubt his value is rated higher internally. He was a vice captain after all and spent 8 years at the club and is only 25 years old so entering the prime of his career

I think a pick in the late 20's would have been right.

The argument that he wasn't best 22 isn't completely valid, because he had injuries to deal with this year which makes it harder. I dare say that a full preseason would have had him starting next year

being subbed off in a grandfinal team is worth a late first round pick anyway.

Issue is the fact your pick is influence by your ladder postions its a joke. If eagles finished 5th last. then 6 would be way way too much and 25ish would be fine.

but Selwood is better then 37.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Ricochet on October 13, 2015, 11:03:05 AM
Freo interested in Casboult if McCarthy falls through
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Money Shot on October 13, 2015, 11:57:23 AM
Quote from: Ricochet on October 13, 2015, 11:03:05 AM
Freo interested in Casboult if McCarthy falls through
First pick this and next year 8) :P
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Ricochet on October 13, 2015, 12:37:58 PM
Quote from: Money Shot on October 13, 2015, 11:57:23 AM
Quote from: Ricochet on October 13, 2015, 11:03:05 AM
Freo interested in Casboult if McCarthy falls through
First pick this and next year 8) :P
You'll send them to us to take Levi off your hands?? OK if we have to :P



Nick Bowen ‏@AFL_Nick
Carlton making a serious play for out-of-contract Crow Sam Kerridge. Likely to be a 3yr deal on the table. #TradePeriod
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Nige on October 13, 2015, 12:45:22 PM
Carlton, Collingwood and Geelong are genuinely after everyone.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: shaker on October 13, 2015, 12:49:27 PM
Quote from: Donnie Brasco on October 13, 2015, 10:40:21 AM
"Richmond will secure Giants midfielder Jacob Townsend in a trade this week," Michael Gleeson, The Age

Not to much to get excited about in that announcement
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: TomK on October 13, 2015, 12:54:34 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on October 13, 2015, 12:37:58 PM
Nick Bowen ‏@AFL_Nick
Carlton making a serious play for out-of-contract Crow Sam Kerridge. Likely to be a 3yr deal on the table. #TradePeriod
He'll probably take that. Won't get much in return for him though I wouldn't think.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Jay on October 13, 2015, 01:12:49 PM
Quote from: TomK on October 13, 2015, 12:54:34 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on October 13, 2015, 12:37:58 PM
Nick Bowen ‏@AFL_Nick
Carlton making a serious play for out-of-contract Crow Sam Kerridge. Likely to be a 3yr deal on the table. #TradePeriod
He'll probably take that. Won't get much in return for him though I wouldn't think.
Yeah I agree.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Southstorm on October 13, 2015, 01:47:46 PM
Adelaide might end up with 5, 24, Curtly Hampton and 38 if they play their cards right. Would be a huge win for them even in a shallow draft, surely.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: TomK on October 13, 2015, 01:49:16 PM
I'd rather 9 and 13 personally but yes, all things considered, not bad at all.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Pkbaldy on October 13, 2015, 01:58:19 PM
Quote from: TomK on October 13, 2015, 01:49:16 PM
I'd rather 9 and 13 personally but yes, all things considered, not bad at all.

5 and 24 to Adelaide will only happen if they're 100% certain on Francis making it to pick 5. Which at this time they'd be pretty wary, looks to heading to GC with Pick 3...

Apparently Collingwood have some interest in Blake Acres (Contracted Until 2018) and Ahmed Saad (Not Contracted).
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: elephants on October 13, 2015, 02:23:55 PM
If Blacres is going anywhere its back home!
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Southstorm on October 13, 2015, 02:25:46 PM
GC might take Collins or Curnow instead to replace some height that they've lost with Dixon and are missing down back.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Bill Manspeaker on October 13, 2015, 02:55:11 PM
Acres ain't going anywhere
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: _wato on October 13, 2015, 03:03:39 PM
This whole 'Collingwood aren't the only club after Treloar' bullshower that GWS are chiming about is annoying the hell out of me honestly, why can't they just get the deal done? Pick 7 plus an early second round draft pick next year for Treloar is certainly enough, and given that Danger was worth pick 9 and 28 (other picks exchanged equals out), I don't know why they're sooking?

Yes Treloar isn't a free agent and Danger is but who cares, he wants out and the Giants are being a real pain about all of this. Get it done.

Oh, and don't even get me started on Brisbane. Oh my god
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Donnie Brasco on October 13, 2015, 03:06:58 PM
Quote from: shaker on October 13, 2015, 12:49:27 PM
Quote from: Donnie Brasco on October 13, 2015, 10:40:21 AM
"Richmond will secure Giants midfielder Jacob Townsend in a trade this week," Michael Gleeson, The Age

Not to much to get excited about in that announcement

yeah, so much for the "war chest"
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: elephants on October 13, 2015, 03:09:32 PM
Quote from: _wato on October 13, 2015, 03:03:39 PM
This whole 'Collingwood aren't the only club after Treloar' bullshower that GWS are chiming about is annoying the hell out of me honestly, why can't they just get the deal done? Pick 7 plus an early second round draft pick next year for Treloar is certainly enough, and given that Danger was worth pick 9 and 28 (other picks exchanged equals out), I don't know why they're sooking?

Yes Treloar isn't a free agent and Danger is but who cares, he wants out and the Giants are being a real pain about all of this. Get it done.

Oh, and don't even get me started on Brisbane. Oh my god

I don't see anything wrong with what they're doing at all? They're losing one of their best players and they're just ensuring they get the best deal possible for him?

I know you said 'who cares' that Danger is an FA and Treloar is contracted but it does make a pretty significant difference to the two scenarios...
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: quinny88 on October 13, 2015, 03:17:26 PM
Can't help but have a giggle during trade week. Everyone club thinks their players are worth more than they should be yet they think everyone else's are worth less than they should be  ::)
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Southstorm on October 13, 2015, 03:19:14 PM
Right.

Essendon give 4 and 23 to Adelaide for 9 and 13. If Gold Coast takes Collins, Francis will fall to the Crows at 4.

Essendon takes 9, packages it with Carlisle, and gives to St. Kilda for 5.

Essendon finishes with 5 and 13, might possibly keep Parish in the draft.

Crows take pick Francis with pick 4. Can use 23 in a trade for Hampton maybe?

Saints get 9 and Carlisle?

Mint deal yeah?
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: elephants on October 13, 2015, 03:22:25 PM
Quote from: quinny88 on October 13, 2015, 03:17:26 PM
Can't help but have a giggle during trade week. Everyone club thinks their players are worth more than they should be yet they think everyone else's are worth less than they should be  ::)

What showers me is key position players get paid mental overs every single year :p sure they're important but Christ.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Pkbaldy on October 13, 2015, 03:23:33 PM
Quote from: Southstorm on October 13, 2015, 03:19:14 PM
Right.

Essendon give 4 and 23 to Adelaide for 9 and 13. If Gold Coast takes Collins, Francis will fall to the Crows at 4.

Essendon takes 9, packages it with Carlisle, and gives to St. Kilda for 5.

Essendon finishes with 5 and 13, might possibly keep Parish in the draft.

Crows take pick Francis with pick 4. Can use 23 in a trade for Hampton maybe?

Saints get 9 and Carlisle?

Mint deal yeah?

I'd be fine with that. But I think that's out of Dodoro's thinking capability...
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Southstorm on October 13, 2015, 03:30:02 PM
Quote from: Pkbaldy on October 13, 2015, 03:23:33 PM
Quote from: Southstorm on October 13, 2015, 03:19:14 PM
Right.

Essendon give 4 and 23 to Adelaide for 9 and 13. If Gold Coast takes Collins, Francis will fall to the Crows at 4.

Essendon takes 9, packages it with Carlisle, and gives to St. Kilda for 5.

Essendon finishes with 5 and 13, might possibly keep Parish in the draft.

Crows take pick Francis with pick 4. Can use 23 in a trade for Hampton maybe?

Saints get 9 and Carlisle?

Mint deal yeah?

I'd be fine with that. But I think that's out of Dodoro's thinking capability...
That's what he's doing right now. There was an age article about how he was shopping our picks in the same way the saints were shopping theirs, presumably he's not happy with the Saint's progress with Adelaide or doesn't want to be stuffed around.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: meow meow on October 13, 2015, 03:33:06 PM
Quote from: _wato on October 13, 2015, 03:03:39 PM
This whole 'Collingwood aren't the only club after Treloar' bullshower that GWS are chiming about is annoying the hell out of me honestly, why can't they just get the deal done? Pick 7 plus an early second round draft pick next year for Treloar is certainly enough, and given that Danger was worth pick 9 and 28 (other picks exchanged equals out), I don't know why they're sooking?

Yes Treloar isn't a free agent and Danger is but who cares, he wants out and the Giants are being a real pain about all of this. Get it done.

Oh, and don't even get me started on Brisbane. Oh my god

Brisbane are offering picks 5 and 25 for Beams. Why can't Collingwood just get the damn deal done instead of holding out so they get Crisp too?  ;)
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: meow meow on October 13, 2015, 03:37:28 PM
Bombers showing a little interest in Talia and Honeychurch. Doubt anything will happen there though.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: PowerBug on October 13, 2015, 05:24:32 PM
Everyone is going to be playing at every club next year. Part of the new equalisation policy and we have to give everyone a fair go because it's discrimination otherwise.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Big Mac on October 13, 2015, 05:50:04 PM
Quote from: PowerBug on October 13, 2015, 05:24:32 PM
Everyone is going to be playing at every club next year. Part of the new equalisation policy and we have to give everyone a fair go because it's discrimination otherwise.

I'm gonna need some context :P
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: tbagrocks on October 13, 2015, 06:14:38 PM
Quote from: PowerBug on October 13, 2015, 05:24:32 PM
Everyone is going to be playing at every club next year. Part of the new equalisation policy and we have to give everyone a fair go because it's discrimination otherwise.
Chad +The Boss" Wingard wearing fruit loops :-*
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: fanTCfool on October 13, 2015, 06:21:52 PM
I hear Brisbane have matched the offer on Leuy, gonna have to be a trade now.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: SydneyRox on October 13, 2015, 07:07:22 PM
Quote from: fanTCfool on October 13, 2015, 06:21:52 PM
I hear Brisbane have matched the offer on Leuy, gonna have to be a trade now.

Still a rumour. But reckon it will happen.

They are hoping saints give Bombers a couple for Carlisle...
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Big Mac on October 13, 2015, 07:13:50 PM
Quote from: SydneyRox on October 13, 2015, 07:07:22 PM
Quote from: fanTCfool on October 13, 2015, 06:21:52 PM
I hear Brisbane have matched the offer on Leuy, gonna have to be a trade now.

Still a rumour. But reckon it will happen.

They are hoping saints give Bombers a couple for Carlisle...

Could be that Melbourne offers 25 for Melksham, then Essendon on-trades that pick for Leuey
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: powersuperkents on October 13, 2015, 07:21:52 PM
Quote from: elephants on October 13, 2015, 03:09:32 PM
Quote from: _wato on October 13, 2015, 03:03:39 PM
This whole 'Collingwood aren't the only club after Treloar' bullshower that GWS are chiming about is annoying the hell out of me honestly, why can't they just get the deal done? Pick 7 plus an early second round draft pick next year for Treloar is certainly enough, and given that Danger was worth pick 9 and 28 (other picks exchanged equals out), I don't know why they're sooking?

Yes Treloar isn't a free agent and Danger is but who cares, he wants out and the Giants are being a real pain about all of this. Get it done.

Oh, and don't even get me started on Brisbane. Oh my god

I don't see anything wrong with what they're doing at all? They're losing one of their best players and they're just ensuring they get the best deal possible for him?

I know you said 'who cares' that Danger is an FA and Treloar is contracted but it does make a pretty significant difference to the two scenarios...
+1

Collingwood should add a player imo (someone like Jarrod Witts or another 2nd tier player that wasn't a top draft pick - Bennedy being another possible player they could package)
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: PowerBug on October 13, 2015, 08:39:07 PM
Quote from: Big  Mac on October 13, 2015, 05:50:04 PM
Quote from: PowerBug on October 13, 2015, 05:24:32 PM
Everyone is going to be playing at every club next year. Part of the new equalisation policy and we have to give everyone a fair go because it's discrimination otherwise.

I'm gonna need some context :P
Context is I reckon I've heard about 200 names thrown out as possibility of being traded (including draft picks). And some players are apparently going to 3-4 different clubs.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Football Factory on October 13, 2015, 08:41:11 PM
Didn't notice this yesterday, don't know if it was mentioned ? I noticed today with flower all going on.



COLLINGWOOD has signed former college basketballer Darrean Wyatt as a category B rookie for next season.

The 22-year-old, who hails from Melbourne, stands at 204cm and has spent the past three years with American college basketball side Coastal Georgia.


http://www.afl.com.au/news/2015-10-12/collingwood-signs-204cm-college-basketballer-darrean-wyatt-
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: kilbluff1985 on October 13, 2015, 08:48:47 PM
Quote from: Big  Mac on October 13, 2015, 07:13:50 PM
Quote from: SydneyRox on October 13, 2015, 07:07:22 PM
Quote from: fanTCfool on October 13, 2015, 06:21:52 PM
I hear Brisbane have matched the offer on Leuy, gonna have to be a trade now.

Still a rumour. But reckon it will happen.

They are hoping saints give Bombers a couple for Carlisle...

Could be that Melbourne offers 25 for Melksham, then Essendon on-trades that pick for Leuey

u do know Melksham is a Demon already right?
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: fanTCfool on October 13, 2015, 08:49:56 PM
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on October 13, 2015, 08:48:47 PM
Quote from: Big  Mac on October 13, 2015, 07:13:50 PM
Quote from: SydneyRox on October 13, 2015, 07:07:22 PM
Quote from: fanTCfool on October 13, 2015, 06:21:52 PM
I hear Brisbane have matched the offer on Leuy, gonna have to be a trade now.

Still a rumour. But reckon it will happen.

They are hoping saints give Bombers a couple for Carlisle...

Could be that Melbourne offers 25 for Melksham, then Essendon on-trades that pick for Leuey

u do know Melksham is a Demon already right?

I heard Melksham is overseas and he hasn't spoken to his manager yet or something along the lines to make it official.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: powersuperkents on October 13, 2015, 09:03:09 PM
Quote from: fanTCfool on October 13, 2015, 08:49:56 PM
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on October 13, 2015, 08:48:47 PM
Quote from: Big  Mac on October 13, 2015, 07:13:50 PM
Quote from: SydneyRox on October 13, 2015, 07:07:22 PM
Quote from: fanTCfool on October 13, 2015, 06:21:52 PM
I hear Brisbane have matched the offer on Leuy, gonna have to be a trade now.

Still a rumour. But reckon it will happen.

They are hoping saints give Bombers a couple for Carlisle...

Could be that Melbourne offers 25 for Melksham, then Essendon on-trades that pick for Leuey

u do know Melksham is a Demon already right?

I heard Melksham is overseas and he hasn't spoken to his manager yet or something along the lines to make it official.
and the Demons are hoping he stays there  :P
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Rusty00 on October 13, 2015, 09:05:20 PM
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on October 13, 2015, 08:48:47 PM
Quote from: Big  Mac on October 13, 2015, 07:13:50 PM
Quote from: SydneyRox on October 13, 2015, 07:07:22 PM
Quote from: fanTCfool on October 13, 2015, 06:21:52 PM
I hear Brisbane have matched the offer on Leuy, gonna have to be a trade now.

Still a rumour. But reckon it will happen.

They are hoping saints give Bombers a couple for Carlisle...

Could be that Melbourne offers 25 for Melksham, then Essendon on-trades that pick for Leuey

u do know Melksham is a Demon already right?
Not officially. The trade hasn't been completed.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: TomK on October 13, 2015, 10:43:57 PM
I've read rumours of Matt Wright and our 3rd for Hampton :o I highly doubt it's true cause I'm not sure the Giants would want Wright and also he's worth nothing.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Ricochet on October 14, 2015, 11:19:42 AM
Henderson to Geelongs 2016 Frist Rounder deal done.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Nige on October 14, 2015, 11:36:45 AM
Geelong have been busy.

That's Paddy, Scooter and Hendo now.

Can we get some more deals done already?  :P Ones that don't include the Cats?
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Purple 77 on October 14, 2015, 11:40:28 AM
Quote from: Nige on October 14, 2015, 11:36:45 AM
Geelong have been busy.

That's Paddy, Scooter and Hendo now.

Can we get some more deals done already?  :P Ones that don't include the Cats?

I don't wanna say that, because as soon as I do, Smells Ham will probably be a demon  :(
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: powersuperkents on October 14, 2015, 12:08:53 PM
Quote from: Nige on October 14, 2015, 11:36:45 AM
Geelong have been busy.

That's Paddy, Scooter and Hendo now.

Can we get some more deals done already?  :P Ones that don't include the Cats?
+1

Let's hope Gold Coast stops being stubborn and accepts pick 10 over the next day or 2.   
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Money Shot on October 14, 2015, 12:11:49 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on October 14, 2015, 11:19:42 AM
Henderson to Geelongs 2016 Frist Rounder deal done.
Yarran for Richmonds first round next year would be nice as well ::) :P
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Ricochet on October 14, 2015, 12:14:19 PM
Wonder if Carlton ship that first rounder off to GWS for one or some of those boys they were interested in
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Money Shot on October 14, 2015, 12:18:09 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on October 14, 2015, 12:14:19 PM
Wonder if Carlton ship that first rounder off to GWS for one or some of those boys they were interested in
I Reckon they will keep it personally!
Use our second round pick to get one or two of them in!
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: powersuperkents on October 14, 2015, 12:21:07 PM
Quote from: Money Shot on October 14, 2015, 12:11:49 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on October 14, 2015, 11:19:42 AM
Henderson to Geelongs 2016 Frist Rounder deal done.
Yarran for Richmonds first round next year would be nice as well ::) :P
Apparently there's talks of

Astbury -> Brisbane
Pick 17 or 21 -> Carlton
Yarran -> Richmond

However, Brisbane claim they are unwilling to trade any first round pick (as that would be overs for Astbury) + Richmond don't want to part with their first rounder (but they pretty much have to and should at least give away 2016's pick (they'll challenge for the top 4 next season - but I'm sure they don't back themselves to win a finals game  :P). I don't think it would be wise for the Tiges to part with Astbury. Rance is the best full back in the comp. but Chaplin only has 3-4 years remaining and Astbury is obviously being developed as a 2nd tall down back (he would be an instant starter - and a good get in general for Brisbane).

I think Carlton may have to capitulate for an early second rounder due to Yarran's low demand, or wait until the end of the trade period when either Richmond will capitulate or another club will think they don't need their 1st rounder and swoop in - maybe Hawthorn.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Ricochet on October 14, 2015, 12:53:59 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on October 14, 2015, 12:40:18 PM
Dawson Simpson has signed with GWS apparently
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: quinny88 on October 14, 2015, 01:13:57 PM
Quote from: powersuperkents on October 14, 2015, 12:21:07 PM
Quote from: Money Shot on October 14, 2015, 12:11:49 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on October 14, 2015, 11:19:42 AM
Henderson to Geelongs 2016 Frist Rounder deal done.
Yarran for Richmonds first round next year would be nice as well ::) :P
Apparently there's talks of

Astbury -> Brisbane
Pick 17 or 21 -> Carlton
Yarran -> Richmond

However, Brisbane claim they are unwilling to trade any first round pick (as that would be overs for Astbury) + Richmond don't want to part with their first rounder (but they pretty much have to and should at least give away 2016's pick (they'll challenge for the top 4 next season - but I'm sure they don't back themselves to win a finals game  :P). I don't think it would be wise for the Tiges to part with Astbury. Rance is the best full back in the comp. but Chaplin only has 3-4 years remaining and Astbury is obviously being developed as a 2nd tall down back (he would be an instant starter - and a good get in general for Brisbane).

I think Carlton may have to capitulate for an early second rounder due to Yarran's low demand, or wait until the end of the trade period when either Richmond will capitulate or another club will think they don't need their 1st rounder and swoop in - maybe Hawthorn.

I'll be shattered if we lose astbury. He's a gun but has just had horrible luck with injuries.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Ricochet on October 14, 2015, 01:25:51 PM
not sure who this guy is of if he's taking the piss but...

(http://i62.tinypic.com/nlee7m.png)
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Jroo on October 14, 2015, 01:32:23 PM
@SamLandsberger Bailey Rice has picked St Kilda. Close call but lifelong Blues fan and son of 95 premiership player Dean will instead join Saints as a F/S.

Rico don't believe everything you read on Twitter lol  :P
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: silloc on October 14, 2015, 01:49:00 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on October 14, 2015, 01:25:51 PM
not sure who this guy is of if he's taking the piss but...

(http://i62.tinypic.com/nlee7m.png)
clearly a flowerwitt just looking to create a rumour
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: RaisyDaisy on October 14, 2015, 02:01:41 PM
Shiel just signed a contract extension this year!

I have it on good authority that Sebastian Finnegan is a flog
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Holz on October 14, 2015, 02:04:04 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on October 14, 2015, 02:01:41 PM
Shiel just signed a contract extension this year!

I have it on good authority that Sebastian Finnegan is a flog

doesn't necessarily mean i trade couldn't be done.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: RaisyDaisy on October 14, 2015, 02:24:50 PM
Quote from: Holz on October 14, 2015, 02:04:04 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on October 14, 2015, 02:01:41 PM
Shiel just signed a contract extension this year!

I have it on good authority that Sebastian Finnegan is a flog

doesn't necessarily mean i trade couldn't be done.

I know that, but surely GWS couldn't lose both Treloar and Shiel, especially after getting his signature a few months ago

Guess there will be egg on my face if it's true, but in the meantime I'm calling BS
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Capper on October 14, 2015, 02:32:42 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on October 14, 2015, 02:24:50 PM
Quote from: Holz on October 14, 2015, 02:04:04 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on October 14, 2015, 02:01:41 PM
Shiel just signed a contract extension this year!

I have it on good authority that Sebastian Finnegan is a flog

doesn't necessarily mean i trade couldn't be done.

I know that, but surely GWS couldn't lose both Treloar and Shiel, especially after getting his signature a few months ago

Guess there will be egg on my face if it's true, but in the meantime I'm calling BS
Had he not been a North supporter then i would have taken more notice of the tweet
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: iZander on October 14, 2015, 02:46:07 PM
Heard a rumour Bastinac could get traded? Is this true? anyone want to shed some new light on this rumour?

Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Ricochet on October 14, 2015, 02:47:04 PM
Quote from: iZander on October 14, 2015, 02:46:07 PM
Heard a rumour Bastinac could get traded? Is this true? anyone want to shed some new light on this rumour?
Think the rumour was Brissie were looking at him
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: elephants on October 14, 2015, 02:58:53 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on October 14, 2015, 02:47:04 PM
Quote from: iZander on October 14, 2015, 02:46:07 PM
Heard a rumour Bastinac could get traded? Is this true? anyone want to shed some new light on this rumour?
Think the rumour was Brissie were looking at him

Don't mind that, Basti would add to an already promising Brissie midfield
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Grazz on October 14, 2015, 03:01:36 PM
North Melbourne midfielder Ryan Bastinac has attracted interest from rival clubs led by the Brisbane Lions and Melbourne, but has yet to request a trade.

Bastinac shaped as one of North's most promising midfielders in his first four seasons at Arden Street, finishing eighth in the Roos' 2012 best and fairest award and sixth in 2013.

However, he struggled to adapt to a more outside role last year and was dropped four times in 2015 before missing North's entire finals campaign.

The 24-year-old is contracted until the end of 2017, so the Lions, Demons and any other interested clubs will have to make North a compelling offer for the midfielder.


http://www.afl.com.au/news/2015-10-13/trade-wrap-yarran-stalemate-high-price-on-hawk-kanga-in-demand
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Grazz on October 14, 2015, 03:06:35 PM
Some news on StevieJ coming up on trade radio shortly apparently.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Ricochet on October 14, 2015, 03:08:46 PM
Quote from: Grazz on October 14, 2015, 03:06:35 PM
Some news on StevieJ coming up on trade radio shortly apparently.
Yep, Damien Barrett just said he's meeting with GWS today on a player/coach role
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Capper on October 14, 2015, 03:09:10 PM
Quote from: Grazz on October 14, 2015, 03:06:35 PM
Some news on StevieJ coming up on trade radio shortly apparently.
currently meeting with GWS
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Grazz on October 14, 2015, 03:09:46 PM
Quote from: Capper on October 14, 2015, 03:09:10 PM
Quote from: Grazz on October 14, 2015, 03:06:35 PM
Some news on StevieJ coming up on trade radio shortly apparently.
currently meeting with GWS

Nailed it mate.  ;)
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Capper on October 14, 2015, 03:10:22 PM
sounds like he will meet with the Swans as well
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Grazz on October 14, 2015, 03:11:54 PM
Quote from: Capper on October 14, 2015, 03:10:22 PM
sounds like he will meet with the Swans as well

So no offers just sounding out discussions taking place.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: LF on October 14, 2015, 03:36:41 PM
AFL ‏@AFL  27s27 seconds ago
The @GoldCoastSUNS have traded Harley Bennell and draft pick no. 22 to the @freodockers for draft picks no. 16 and 35. #TradePeriod
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Capper on October 14, 2015, 03:38:01 PM
Quote from: LF on October 14, 2015, 03:36:41 PM
AFL ‏@AFL  27s27 seconds ago
The @GoldCoastSUNS have traded Harley Bennell and draft pick no. 22 to the @freodockers for draft picks no. 16 and 35. #TradePeriod
Thats a steal!!!

Freo have done very well there.

But this means no McCarthy
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Grazz on October 14, 2015, 03:38:55 PM
Quote from: LF on October 14, 2015, 03:36:41 PM
AFL ‏@AFL  27s27 seconds ago
The @GoldCoastSUNS have traded Harley Bennell and draft pick no. 22 to the @freodockers for draft picks no. 16 and 35. #TradePeriod

Well done Freo, Harleys a good get if they can get his head right he's a bargain for what they gave up to snare him.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Ricochet on October 14, 2015, 03:43:18 PM
#steal
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: RaisyDaisy on October 14, 2015, 03:43:57 PM
Not sure if this has been mentioned, but apparently Howe is waiting for an offer from Collingwood, and if he doesn't get it then he will nominate GC or North
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: elephants on October 14, 2015, 03:45:15 PM
Yep huge steal by Freo!

Doesn't really sort their key forward problem though ;)
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Ricochet on October 14, 2015, 03:47:59 PM
Quote from: elephants on October 14, 2015, 03:45:15 PM
Yep huge steal by Freo!

Doesn't really sort their key forward problem though ;)
He'll kick 40 for us, so don't need one now :P
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Grazz on October 14, 2015, 03:49:42 PM
Quote from: elephants on October 14, 2015, 03:45:15 PM
Yep huge steal by Freo!

Doesn't really sort their key forward problem though ;)

Nuh it doesn't but does give them another elite Mid allowing Fyfe to spend more time up forward. If they can somehow still grab a Fwd then they've done very very well this draft.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Toga on October 14, 2015, 03:51:55 PM
Huge get for Freo! And for cheap as well.

If they can pick up a McCarthy or Aaron Black type now then that's a great coup.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Pkbaldy on October 14, 2015, 04:20:09 PM
So that means Bennell's Pick Worth was around Pick 24. BIG win for Freo.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: powersuperkents on October 14, 2015, 04:25:00 PM
Big win for Freo

Bennell + an insignificant pick downgrade is impressive

It will flower over Port's deal with Dixon (they already want more than pick 10) but from an impartial view the Dockers have done the right thing (there was literally no way they were getting McCarthy and until they realised that the Bennell deal would never be completed)

They need to now focus on Aaron Black imo - they could land him with pick 22 in a straight swap
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Ricochet on October 14, 2015, 05:22:48 PM
The Age reporting Rosa has requested a trade
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Ringo on October 14, 2015, 05:45:53 PM
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2015-10-14/clubs-circling-veteran-eagle-matt-rosa

Confirmation of Rosa request
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Ricochet on October 14, 2015, 05:59:16 PM
The Age is also reporting that Sinclair has been traded to Sydney for Jetta
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Toga on October 14, 2015, 06:06:07 PM
Win for Sydney?
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: iZander on October 14, 2015, 06:07:49 PM
Quote from: Toga on October 14, 2015, 06:06:07 PM
Win for Sydney?
Yep, huge win for sydney
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Toga on October 14, 2015, 06:09:53 PM
Glad I'm not the only one :P
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: powersuperkents on October 14, 2015, 06:14:34 PM
Quote from: iZander on October 14, 2015, 06:07:49 PM
Quote from: Toga on October 14, 2015, 06:06:07 PM
Win for Sydney?
Yep, huge win for sydney
Don't be ridiculous.

Yes based on bargaining positions, it's a win for Sydney

However, Jetta is literally a thousand times better than Sinclair. Sinclair has received so much undue reverence from Eagles supporters based on one good season - I might remind you that this high rating of Sinclair is internal and exclusive to Eagles supporters.

In terms of the two players involved, West Coast easily the winners. In terms of the bargaining positions of both clubs, Sydney easily the winners.

I would say this amounts to a pretty even trade - Sinclair is a 2nd ruck and the Swans are planning on only supporting him with Tippett. Not really a risk considering their bargaining position in the trade, nevertheless he could burn them if 2015 was a 'one-hit' season or if he isn't supported by a natural talent like Nic Nat.

In terms of personnel I would say Jetta is a significant win and now Gaff has some support (will most likely further improve and receive dual-AA status - he wasn't receiving much help from Masten...). 
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: iZander on October 14, 2015, 06:18:27 PM
Quote from: powersuperkents on October 14, 2015, 06:14:34 PM
Quote from: iZander on October 14, 2015, 06:07:49 PM
Quote from: Toga on October 14, 2015, 06:06:07 PM
Win for Sydney?
Yep, huge win for sydney
Don't be ridiculous.

Yes based on bargaining positions, it's a win for Sydney

However, Jetta is literally a thousand times better than Sinclair. Sinclair has received so much undue reverence from Eagles supporters based on one good season - I might remind you that this high rating of Sinclair is internal and exclusive to Eagles supporters.

In terms of the two players involved, West Coast easily the winners. In terms of the bargaining positions of both clubs, Sydney easily the winners.

I would say this amounts to a pretty even trade - Sinclair is a 2nd ruck and the Swans are planning on only supporting him with Tippett. Not really a risk considering their bargaining position in the trade, nevertheless he could burn them if 2015 was a 'one-hit' season or if he isn't supported by a natural talent like Nic Nat.

In terms of personnel I would say Jetta is a significant win and now Gaff has some support (will most likely further improve and receive dual-AA status - he wasn't receiving much help from Masten...).
Firstly don't mistake me for an eagles supporter because of my profile picture...because I'm not.

Its a win for Sydney because they were going to lose Jetta anyway and they managed to get one of the eagles best 22 in the ruck position that they need desperately. Its a big win for them.

Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: powersuperkents on October 14, 2015, 06:21:37 PM
Quote from: iZander on October 14, 2015, 06:18:27 PM
Quote from: powersuperkents on October 14, 2015, 06:14:34 PM
Quote from: iZander on October 14, 2015, 06:07:49 PM
Quote from: Toga on October 14, 2015, 06:06:07 PM
Win for Sydney?
Yep, huge win for sydney
Don't be ridiculous.

Yes based on bargaining positions, it's a win for Sydney

However, Jetta is literally a thousand times better than Sinclair. Sinclair has received so much undue reverence from Eagles supporters based on one good season - I might remind you that this high rating of Sinclair is internal and exclusive to Eagles supporters.

In terms of the two players involved, West Coast easily the winners. In terms of the bargaining positions of both clubs, Sydney easily the winners.

I would say this amounts to a pretty even trade - Sinclair is a 2nd ruck and the Swans are planning on only supporting him with Tippett. Not really a risk considering their bargaining position in the trade, nevertheless he could burn them if 2015 was a 'one-hit' season or if he isn't supported by a natural talent like Nic Nat.

In terms of personnel I would say Jetta is a significant win and now Gaff has some support (will most likely further improve and receive dual-AA status - he wasn't receiving much help from Masten...).
Firstly don't mistake me for an eagles supporter because of my profile picture...because I'm not.

Its a win for Sydney because they were going to lose Jetta anyway and they managed to get one of the eagles best 22 in the ruck position that they need desperately. Its a big win for them.
+1

That's why I see Eagles supporters getting angry. They capitulated and I think it would have been because other clubs would have started inquiring about Jetta.

I'm not sure how the Swans pulled it off, but their recruiting department would be celebrating. I'm still not convinced Sinclair is a big 'get' though. The next few years will show whether or not the Swans pulled off a lopsided trade, or whether it was merely false celebration, or even, whether Simmo pulled off a con (i.e. raising a player's value before handing them off).

I'm still of the opinion that it was the role that made Sinclair's 2015, rather than the player because statistically his season wasn't that good   
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Jay on October 14, 2015, 06:29:50 PM
Seriously!? West Coast traded Sinclair for Jetta? :o
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Levi434 on October 14, 2015, 06:30:23 PM
Quote from: Jayman on October 14, 2015, 06:29:50 PM
Seriously!? West Coast traded Sinclair for Jetta? :o
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: powersuperkents on October 14, 2015, 06:34:43 PM
Turns out it was because the Scott Selwood compo pick...

They were planning to use Scooter's comp pick for Jetta (but were expecting it to be first round compensation)

When it turned out to be 2nd round compo, they capitulated... (Idk why they expected first round compo for Scooter but that mistake cost them Sinclair)

This also explains why they were so angry about the Scooter compo and I suspect that is why the Lions are angry about the Luey compo (they were probably planning to trade it as well)
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Jay on October 14, 2015, 06:58:11 PM
Quote from: Levi434 on October 14, 2015, 06:30:23 PM
Quote from: Jayman on October 14, 2015, 06:29:50 PM
Seriously!? West Coast traded Sinclair for Jetta? :o
I think this is one of the worst trades an AFL club has made over the last few years.. Not because it's bad value (Jetta is decent when up and running) but they had legitimately all the leverage in this deal. Jetta had requested the trade from Sydney and said he wanted to go to West Coast - there is no reason for you to give up a best 22 player there.

Crazy.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: fanTCfool on October 14, 2015, 07:02:45 PM
Will Sinclair become Swans #1 Ruck to be relieved by Tippett?
Personally, I rate him over Jetta too.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Ricochet on October 14, 2015, 07:03:03 PM
Quote from: Jayman on October 14, 2015, 06:58:11 PM
Quote from: Levi434 on October 14, 2015, 06:30:23 PM
Quote from: Jayman on October 14, 2015, 06:29:50 PM
Seriously!? West Coast traded Sinclair for Jetta? :o
I think this is one of the worst trades an AFL club has made over the last few years.. Not because it's bad value (Jetta is decent when up and running) but they had legitimately all the leverage in this deal. Jetta had requested the trade from Sydney and said he wanted to go to West Coast - there is no reason for you to give up a best 22 player there.

Crazy.
I'm starting to get the feeling a big offer was made to Sinclair that changed his mind bout not wanting out of WCE
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: fanTCfool on October 14, 2015, 07:04:04 PM
Oh, and Jeremy Howe has nominated Collingwood, or so I read.

Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: tbagrocks on October 14, 2015, 07:24:09 PM
Back up ruck for a game breaker Jetta? WC have Lycett anyway!

Win for WC imo!
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: kilbluff1985 on October 14, 2015, 07:29:05 PM
Jetta could do well with Nic Nat
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: powersuperkents on October 14, 2015, 07:33:26 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on October 14, 2015, 07:03:03 PM
Quote from: Jayman on October 14, 2015, 06:58:11 PM
Quote from: Levi434 on October 14, 2015, 06:30:23 PM
Quote from: Jayman on October 14, 2015, 06:29:50 PM
Seriously!? West Coast traded Sinclair for Jetta? :o
I think this is one of the worst trades an AFL club has made over the last few years.. Not because it's bad value (Jetta is decent when up and running) but they had legitimately all the leverage in this deal. Jetta had requested the trade from Sydney and said he wanted to go to West Coast - there is no reason for you to give up a best 22 player there.

Crazy.
I'm starting to get the feeling a big offer was made to Sinclair that changed his mind bout not wanting out of WCE
I did hear that was the case

+ Sinclair cited job security as well
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: RaisyDaisy on October 14, 2015, 07:37:41 PM
Yeah Buckets was obviously offered a lucrative deal, and will get the number 1 spot

Sucks to lose him, but I understand
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: powersuperkents on October 14, 2015, 07:39:05 PM
Quote from: tbagrocks on October 14, 2015, 07:24:09 PM
Back up ruck for a game breaker Jetta? WC have Lycett anyway!

Win for WC imo!
+1

I agree, if Sydney offered Sinclair a significant sum of money... I bet you we will all be laughing at the Swans in a year or two.

Cyril Rioli really was the difference in the Grand Final before the game broke. West Coast don't have a niche player like him (a Cyril/Wingard/Motlop/Billings in a couple of years etc.). Now they do.

Redden & Jetta are good pick-ups imo - added something (Lycett can replace Sinclair) and replaced Scooter with a better player (i.e. Redden)

+ Simmo knows how to maximise midfielder value more than anyone
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Mat0369 on October 14, 2015, 07:51:05 PM
Swans aren't allowed to offer big money deals to any FA's. They have to be all sub 400k due to the restrictions. They were desperate for a ruck and with Leuenberger and Smith going elsewhere Sinclair was all they could get. WC made out well in this deal. Sinclair ain't that good and they get the outside pace they really need.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Mr.Craig on October 14, 2015, 07:54:53 PM
Jetta was rubbish anyway, never turned up when the Swans actually needed him.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: My Chumps on October 14, 2015, 08:01:37 PM
Quote from: Mr.Craig on October 14, 2015, 07:54:53 PM
Jetta was rubbish anyway, never turned up when the Swans actually needed him.
Was pretty handy in the 2012 finals series, particularly that GF.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Mr.Craig on October 14, 2015, 08:16:23 PM
Quote from: My Chumps on October 14, 2015, 08:01:37 PM
Quote from: Mr.Craig on October 14, 2015, 07:54:53 PM
Jetta was rubbish anyway, never turned up when the Swans actually needed him.
Was pretty handy in the 2012 finals series, particularly that GF.

12 disposals, 1 behind and 1 tackle.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: meow meow on October 14, 2015, 08:26:14 PM
Quote from: Mr.Craig on October 14, 2015, 08:16:23 PM
Quote from: My Chumps on October 14, 2015, 08:01:37 PM
Quote from: Mr.Craig on October 14, 2015, 07:54:53 PM
Jetta was rubbish anyway, never turned up when the Swans actually needed him.
Was pretty handy in the 2012 finals series, particularly that GF.

12 disposals, 1 behind and 1 tackle.

1x left Cyril in his wake, clutching at nothing but thin air. Until Delish finally caught up and gave away a down field kick after Jetta had stopped. :P
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: My Chumps on October 14, 2015, 08:35:37 PM
Quote from: Mr.Craig on October 14, 2015, 08:16:23 PM
Quote from: My Chumps on October 14, 2015, 08:01:37 PM
Quote from: Mr.Craig on October 14, 2015, 07:54:53 PM
Jetta was rubbish anyway, never turned up when the Swans actually needed him.
Was pretty handy in the 2012 finals series, particularly that GF.

12 disposals, 1 behind and 1 tackle.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GTJ0gRc5AU8 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GTJ0gRc5AU8)

Watch the game again dude. He did important things.
- sizzle race gained literally 100+ metres
- Goal assist to McVeigh second quarter
- Pinpointed Jack in the centre corridor to give to JPK for an easy goal in the third Q
- Goal assist when he tapped it back to Hanners in the last Q to get us back to within a kick
- held it up for a minute when we were up in the last, and his kick led to the final Eski goal
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Mr.Craig on October 14, 2015, 09:17:47 PM
Quote from: My Chumps on October 14, 2015, 08:35:37 PM
Watch the game again dude.

Yeah, think I might pass.

He has played some very poor finals games in recent years, you can't deny that.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: powersuperkents on October 14, 2015, 09:22:46 PM
Quote from: meow meow on October 14, 2015, 08:26:14 PM
Quote from: Mr.Craig on October 14, 2015, 08:16:23 PM
Quote from: My Chumps on October 14, 2015, 08:01:37 PM
Quote from: Mr.Craig on October 14, 2015, 07:54:53 PM
Jetta was rubbish anyway, never turned up when the Swans actually needed him.
Was pretty handy in the 2012 finals series, particularly that GF.

12 disposals, 1 behind and 1 tackle.

1x left Cyril in his wake, clutching at nothing but thin air. Until Delish finally caught up and gave away a down field kick after Jetta had stopped. :P
+1

The GF was a case where the stats only show 1% of the story. The Swans could not have won that game without Jetta

A naturally talented player and once he has a coach who focuses on midfielders (like Simmo who was a midfielder) rather than predominately on key forwards (like Horse who was a key forward), he'll find more consistency and unlock his full potential 
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: _wato on October 14, 2015, 11:48:25 PM
Quote from: powersuperkents on October 14, 2015, 09:22:46 PM
The GF was a case where the stats only show 1% of the story. The Swans could not have won that game without Jetta

A naturally talented player and once he has a coach who focuses on midfielders (like Simmo who was a midfielder) rather than predominately on key forwards (like Horse who was a key forward), he'll find more consistency and unlock his full potential 

I don't really understand this statement considering Sydney have some of the best mids in the game (Kennedy, Parker, Hannebery, Mitchell, McVeigh, Jack etc and are coached by Dew and Francou (midfield coaches), playing a game style that is largely contested, meaning a lot of the mids will/do find plenty of the ball. Jetta just became a passenger in my opinion, and a bit like Chris Yarran has just lost a little bit of passion for the game and the contest. Certainly a change of scenery will spark him again and will do him the world of good, but to reference Longmire as a 'scape goat' and not allowing Jetta to reach his full potential is nobody but Jetta's fault to blame.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: powersuperkents on October 15, 2015, 12:33:24 AM
Quote from: _wato on October 14, 2015, 11:48:25 PM
Quote from: powersuperkents on October 14, 2015, 09:22:46 PM
The GF was a case where the stats only show 1% of the story. The Swans could not have won that game without Jetta

A naturally talented player and once he has a coach who focuses on midfielders (like Simmo who was a midfielder) rather than predominately on key forwards (like Horse who was a key forward), he'll find more consistency and unlock his full potential 

I don't really understand this statement considering Sydney have some of the best mids in the game (Kennedy, Parker, Hannebery, Mitchell, McVeigh, Jack etc and are coached by Dew and Francou (midfield coaches), playing a game style that is largely contested, meaning a lot of the mids will/do find plenty of the ball. Jetta just became a passenger in my opinion, and a bit like Chris Yarran has just lost a little bit of passion for the game and the contest. Certainly a change of scenery will spark him again and will do him the world of good, but to reference Longmire as a 'scape goat' and not allowing Jetta to reach his full potential is nobody but Jetta's fault to blame.
+1

However, out of all Sydney's midfielders McVeigh & Jetta are the only two noted for being technically advanced in the natural sense.

Hannes, Parker, & Jack are all fantastic players, but their talent is attributable to Sydney's fine job developing them. They were not noted as being technically advanced in their junior years and as a result fell in the draft to insignificant picks.

Does that make them draft steals? Well no, to do so would discredit what the Swans have done - arguably they would not be the players they are today if it was not for the Swans. Sydney are fantastic at producing talent and you can see this by the fact most of their team are late draftees who the club have assigned roles and assisted them to achieve things that recruiters in their junior years thought was beyond their capacity. No doubt Jetta will be easily replaced by Sydney and, arguably one could say some players who the AFL community deemed technically advanced and naturally talented have been let downs for the club (e.g. Gary Rohan - I can still remember the hype surrounding this kid).

I think Jetta was fantastic this season, I'm not scapegoating Longmire, just saying that in reaching his prime, perhaps going to a club that isn't noted for a specific gameplan will be beneficial for Jetta (I don't see him becoming worse as a result of this move).

Jetta is an uncontested mid, they require space to be creative, if an uncontested mid doesn't have space and lacks the ability to offer either speed or skill they are worthless. Sydney's contested pressure game is fantastic in terms of success rate, but I see Jetta improving in West Coast (their strategy and general style of play is more suited to his playing style).

I would not go as far as to call Jetta a "passenger" though. He was a valued part of the club and he provided a service comparable to that of a Cyril/Wingard type, however that was not a role the Swans needed - he was still a valuable member of the team though and performed well.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: powersuperkents on October 15, 2015, 01:17:31 AM
Has anyone noticed that Matt Suckling has won more premierships than the Western Bulldogs have in their entire AFL/VFL history  :P
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Bill Manspeaker on October 15, 2015, 01:33:35 AM
Quote from: powersuperkents on October 15, 2015, 01:17:31 AM
Has anyone noticed that Matt Suckling has won more premierships than the Western Bulldogs have in their entire AFL/VFL history  :P

pfft yeah bad isn't it. one flag in like a million years. hate to be the Dogs  8)

:(
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: RaisyDaisy on October 15, 2015, 08:51:18 AM
Adelaide is expected to throw a deal at Seedsman that would trump GC's offer. Seedsman has narrowed it down to Adelaide and GC

Brant Colledge from WCE has attracted interest from Essendon

GWS have confirmed that they have not signed Dawson Simpson yet

Stanton hasn't signed on yet, and WCE have made an enquiry although Woosha expect Stanton will sign soon to remain at Windy Hill
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: powersuperkents on October 15, 2015, 12:02:22 PM
Why is there so much interest in Seedsman? He's a spud imo... (he's inconsistent, unable to complete full games, and lacks the natural talent expected from high profile players - he has received more attention than is warranted during this trade period).

I would say he is on-par with Dawson Simpson.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Football Factory on October 15, 2015, 01:02:02 PM
Quote from: powersuperkents on October 15, 2015, 12:02:22 PM
Why is there so much interest in Seedsman? He's a spud imo... (he's inconsistent, unable to complete full games, and lacks the natural talent expected from high profile players - he has received more attention than is warranted during this trade period).

I would say he is on-par with Dawson Simpson.

Dawson Simpson and Mummy can share back injury stories ...
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: elephants on October 15, 2015, 01:36:12 PM
On the Jetta/Sinkers deal.

Initially I was mad, but we turned a back-up ruck who has played 20 good games of football who we picked up in the rookie draft into a former first round pick who brings elite ball-use and blistering pace across.

Although I think we could have done better, I'm fine with this. Especially if we make Sydney remember what we did for them and they repay the favour a few years down the track :P

At the end of the day Lycett is going to be a better player than Sinclair, there's an element of risk given Lycett is coming of such an injury riddled season, but I absolutely have faith.

And for those saying Sinkers didn't want out, he did. He handed in a trade request after Sydney offered him dollars :P
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Football Factory on October 15, 2015, 01:44:17 PM
Quote from: elephants on October 15, 2015, 01:36:12 PM
On the Jetta/Sinkers deal.

Initially I was mad, but we turned a back-up ruck who has played 20 good games of football who we picked up in the rookie draft into a former first round pick who brings elite ball-use and blistering pace across.

Although I think we could have done better, I'm fine with this. Especially if we make Sydney remember what we did for them and they repay the favour a few years down the track :P

At the end of the day Lycett is going to be a better player than Sinclair, there's an element of risk given Lycett is coming of such an injury riddled season, but I absolutely have faith.

And for those saying Sinkers didn't want out, he did. He handed in a trade request after Sydney offered him dollars :P

+1  couldn't agree more
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: SydneyRox on October 15, 2015, 01:48:15 PM
Heard it was 4 years at $450 so good money without being ridiculous.

Still think it's a pretty even trade. Sinclair is all about potential, while Jetta has shown he can play, but his mind was obviously not on it during the end of the year which is disappointing.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: powersuperkents on October 15, 2015, 01:49:13 PM
Quote from: FOOTBALL FACTORY on October 15, 2015, 01:44:17 PM
Quote from: elephants on October 15, 2015, 01:36:12 PM
On the Jetta/Sinkers deal.

Initially I was mad, but we turned a back-up ruck who has played 20 good games of football who we picked up in the rookie draft into a former first round pick who brings elite ball-use and blistering pace across.

Although I think we could have done better, I'm fine with this. Especially if we make Sydney remember what we did for them and they repay the favour a few years down the track :P

At the end of the day Lycett is going to be a better player than Sinclair, there's an element of risk given Lycett is coming of such an injury riddled season, but I absolutely have faith.

And for those saying Sinkers didn't want out, he did. He handed in a trade request after Sydney offered him dollars :P

+1  couldn't agree more
+2

I still think this is a steal for West Coast and those who disagree are seriously overrating Sinclair (Lobbe statistically had just as good a season as Sinclair, and he was dog shower this year)
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: TomK on October 15, 2015, 01:59:09 PM
Looks like Seedsman nominated Adelaide. Pick 32 should get it done.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Grazz on October 15, 2015, 02:01:45 PM
Quote from: powersuperkents on October 15, 2015, 12:02:22 PM
Why is there so much interest in Seedsman? He's a spud imo... (he's inconsistent, unable to complete full games, and lacks the natural talent expected from high profile players - he has received more attention than is warranted during this trade period).

I would say he is on-par with Dawson Simpson.

Has some pace and decent foot skills, we need that and could slide into Smiths role and allow Smith to become a full time mid for us.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: TomK on October 15, 2015, 02:05:20 PM
Quote from: Grazz on October 15, 2015, 02:01:45 PM
Quote from: powersuperkents on October 15, 2015, 12:02:22 PM
Why is there so much interest in Seedsman? He's a spud imo... (he's inconsistent, unable to complete full games, and lacks the natural talent expected from high profile players - he has received more attention than is warranted during this trade period).

I would say he is on-par with Dawson Simpson.

Has some pace and decent foot skills, we need that and could slide into Smiths role and allow Smith to become a full time mid for us.
Better than Mackay, that's for sure.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Grazz on October 15, 2015, 02:13:45 PM
Quote from: TomK on October 15, 2015, 02:05:20 PM
Quote from: Grazz on October 15, 2015, 02:01:45 PM
Quote from: powersuperkents on October 15, 2015, 12:02:22 PM
Why is there so much interest in Seedsman? He's a spud imo... (he's inconsistent, unable to complete full games, and lacks the natural talent expected from high profile players - he has received more attention than is warranted during this trade period).

I would say he is on-par with Dawson Simpson.

Has some pace and decent foot skills, we need that and could slide into Smiths role and allow Smith to become a full time mid for us.
Better than Mackay, that's for sure.

Amen to that mate.  ;)
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Ricochet on October 15, 2015, 02:20:01 PM
Hawks have made a bid for Jake Carlisle :o


Age reporting that

North Melb get Anderson
Hawks get Carlisle
Essendon get 2x first rounders
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Grazz on October 15, 2015, 02:21:42 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on October 15, 2015, 02:20:01 PM
Hawks have made a bid for Jake Carlisle :o


Age reporting that

North Melb get Anderson
Hawks get Carlisle
Essendon get 2x first rounders

Could screw it up for the Saints here, Hawks seem to land whoever they go after.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Ricochet on October 15, 2015, 02:22:23 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on October 15, 2015, 02:20:01 PM
Hawks have made a bid for Jake Carlisle :o


Age reporting that

North Melb get Anderson
Hawks get Carlisle
Essendon get 2x first rounders
http://www.theage.com.au/afl/afl-trade-period-2015--hawks-make-stunning-move-for-carlisle-20151015-gk9qhl.html?&utm_source=social&utm_medium=twitter&utm_campaign=nc&eid=socialn:twi-14omn0023-optim-nnn:nonpaid-27/06/2014-social_traffic-all-organicpost-nnn-age-o&campaign_code=nocode&promote_channel=social_twitter

Actually it's

North Melb get Anderson + Essendons #41
Hawks get Carlisle
Essendon get #15 and #18
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: iZander on October 15, 2015, 02:31:09 PM
Quote from: Grazz on October 15, 2015, 02:21:42 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on October 15, 2015, 02:20:01 PM
Hawks have made a bid for Jake Carlisle :o


Age reporting that

North Melb get Anderson
Hawks get Carlisle
Essendon get 2x first rounders

Could screw it up for the Saints here, Hawks seem to land whoever they go after.
Should be fine for them if they give us pick 5, good to see some competition now ;)
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Ricochet on October 15, 2015, 02:34:14 PM
Quote from: iZander on October 15, 2015, 02:31:09 PM
Quote from: Grazz on October 15, 2015, 02:21:42 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on October 15, 2015, 02:20:01 PM
Hawks have made a bid for Jake Carlisle :o


Age reporting that

North Melb get Anderson
Hawks get Carlisle
Essendon get 2x first rounders

Could screw it up for the Saints here, Hawks seem to land whoever they go after.
Should be fine for them if they give us pick 5, good to see some competition now ;)
Mark Stevens saying that all Clubs are happy, only need Carlisle to say yes to go to Hawks. I know what I'd choose
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: iZander on October 15, 2015, 02:35:26 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on October 15, 2015, 02:34:14 PM
Quote from: iZander on October 15, 2015, 02:31:09 PM
Quote from: Grazz on October 15, 2015, 02:21:42 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on October 15, 2015, 02:20:01 PM
Hawks have made a bid for Jake Carlisle :o


Age reporting that

North Melb get Anderson
Hawks get Carlisle
Essendon get 2x first rounders

Could screw it up for the Saints here, Hawks seem to land whoever they go after.
Should be fine for them if they give us pick 5, good to see some competition now ;)
Mark Stevens saying that all Clubs are happy, only need Carlisle to say yes to go to Hawks. I know what I'd choose
Id be happy with the deal but kinda annoyed that he would be going to Hawks...hoping saints try and beat the offer :P
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: AaronKirk on October 15, 2015, 02:37:10 PM
5 Picks in first 25 for Essendon if this deal goes ahead, which surely it will.

If you were Carlisle where would you rather go? Hawthorn or St Kilda?
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Southstorm on October 15, 2015, 02:37:52 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on October 15, 2015, 02:34:14 PM
Quote from: iZander on October 15, 2015, 02:31:09 PM
Quote from: Grazz on October 15, 2015, 02:21:42 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on October 15, 2015, 02:20:01 PM
Hawks have made a bid for Jake Carlisle :o


Age reporting that

North Melb get Anderson
Hawks get Carlisle
Essendon get 2x first rounders

Could screw it up for the Saints here, Hawks seem to land whoever they go after.
Should be fine for them if they give us pick 5, good to see some competition now ;)
Mark Stevens saying that all Clubs are happy, only need Carlisle to say yes to go to Hawks. I know what I'd choose
If I was Carlisle and Clarkson called me, the next question I'd ask is for a pen.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: H1bb3i2d on October 15, 2015, 02:38:02 PM
Quote from: iZander on October 15, 2015, 02:35:26 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on October 15, 2015, 02:34:14 PM
Quote from: iZander on October 15, 2015, 02:31:09 PM
Quote from: Grazz on October 15, 2015, 02:21:42 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on October 15, 2015, 02:20:01 PM
Hawks have made a bid for Jake Carlisle :o


Age reporting that

North Melb get Anderson
Hawks get Carlisle
Essendon get 2x first rounders

Could screw it up for the Saints here, Hawks seem to land whoever they go after.
Should be fine for them if they give us pick 5, good to see some competition now ;)
Mark Stevens saying that all Clubs are happy, only need Carlisle to say yes to go to Hawks. I know what I'd choose
Id be happy with the deal but kinda annoyed that he would be going to Hawks...hoping saints try and beat the offer :P

I'd much rather pick 5 ;) but 15 + 18 are a hellava lot better than 24 + Hickey!
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Ricochet on October 15, 2015, 02:38:26 PM
Quote from: AaronKirk on October 15, 2015, 02:37:10 PM
5 Picks in first 25 for Essendon if this deal goes ahead, which surely it will.

If you were Carlisle where would you rather go? Hawthorn or St Kilda?
Especially when he said it wasn't about the money, he just wanted a change
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: AaronKirk on October 15, 2015, 02:40:33 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on October 15, 2015, 02:38:26 PM
Quote from: AaronKirk on October 15, 2015, 02:37:10 PM
5 Picks in first 25 for Essendon if this deal goes ahead, which surely it will.

If you were Carlisle where would you rather go? Hawthorn or St Kilda?
Especially when he said it wasn't about the money, he just wanted a change

With some retirements in the next few years there will be money at Hawthorn if he can perform there.

If I were him id take the deal and run.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: powersuperkents on October 15, 2015, 02:41:42 PM
Quote from: TomK on October 15, 2015, 02:05:20 PM
Quote from: Grazz on October 15, 2015, 02:01:45 PM
Quote from: powersuperkents on October 15, 2015, 12:02:22 PM
Why is there so much interest in Seedsman? He's a spud imo... (he's inconsistent, unable to complete full games, and lacks the natural talent expected from high profile players - he has received more attention than is warranted during this trade period).

I would say he is on-par with Dawson Simpson.

Has some pace and decent foot skills, we need that and could slide into Smiths role and allow Smith to become a full time mid for us.
Better than Mackay, that's for sure.
I'm definitely willing to agree with that  :P
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: PowerBug on October 15, 2015, 02:42:40 PM
Wowwwwww that would really shake things up. Do the Saints fold and hand over Pick 5? Or just forget it now and say they didn't really want him anyway
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Grazz on October 15, 2015, 02:43:32 PM
Quote from: Southstorm on October 15, 2015, 02:37:52 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on October 15, 2015, 02:34:14 PM
Quote from: iZander on October 15, 2015, 02:31:09 PM
Quote from: Grazz on October 15, 2015, 02:21:42 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on October 15, 2015, 02:20:01 PM
Hawks have made a bid for Jake Carlisle :o


Age reporting that

North Melb get Anderson
Hawks get Carlisle
Essendon get 2x first rounders

Could screw it up for the Saints here, Hawks seem to land whoever they go after.
Should be fine for them if they give us pick 5, good to see some competition now ;)
Mark Stevens saying that all Clubs are happy, only need Carlisle to say yes to go to Hawks. I know what I'd choose
If I was Carlisle and Clarkson called me, the next question I'd ask is for a pen.

Haha to true mate, i'd cut me finger and sign in blood if a pen wasn't handy.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: powersuperkents on October 15, 2015, 02:44:57 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on October 15, 2015, 02:22:23 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on October 15, 2015, 02:20:01 PM
Hawks have made a bid for Jake Carlisle :o


Age reporting that

North Melb get Anderson
Hawks get Carlisle
Essendon get 2x first rounders
http://www.theage.com.au/afl/afl-trade-period-2015--hawks-make-stunning-move-for-carlisle-20151015-gk9qhl.html?&utm_source=social&utm_medium=twitter&utm_campaign=nc&eid=socialn:twi-14omn0023-optim-nnn:nonpaid-27/06/2014-social_traffic-all-organicpost-nnn-age-o&campaign_code=nocode&promote_channel=social_twitter

Actually it's

North Melb get Anderson + Essendons #41
Hawks get Carlisle
Essendon get #15 and #18
Love it  ;D

Need the Hawks to fill their salary cap so that there can be no way they make the rumoured bid for Wingard next season.

Hopefully Carlisle gets big $$
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: kilbluff1985 on October 15, 2015, 02:46:05 PM
tell Hawks to give us Anderson + 18
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: PowerBug on October 15, 2015, 02:49:35 PM
Quote from: powersuperkents on October 15, 2015, 02:44:57 PM
Need the Hawks to fill their salary cap so that there can be no way they make the rumoured bid for Wingard next season.

Hopefully Carlisle gets big $$
Hahaha yessssss :D Not money for Wingard. He might be going to Collingwood though like every other uncontracted player is rumoured to go though? :P That is sarcasm if people do not get it
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Grazz on October 15, 2015, 02:50:04 PM
Be interesting to see Carlisle's reaction, on trade radio last week he stated he'd be at the Saints next year wanted to grow with a club and not do a Frawley lol see what happens no Hawks have chucked their hat in the ring for his services.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: powersuperkents on October 15, 2015, 02:52:35 PM
Quote from: PowerBug on October 15, 2015, 02:49:35 PM
Quote from: powersuperkents on October 15, 2015, 02:44:57 PM
Need the Hawks to fill their salary cap so that there can be no way they make the rumoured bid for Wingard next season.

Hopefully Carlisle gets big $$
Hahaha yessssss :D Not money for Wingard. He might be going to Collingwood though like every other uncontracted player is rumoured to go though? :P That is sarcasm if people do not get it
I think to lure Wingard away from Port Adelaide would take $800k-$1.2mil per season on a long-term deal. I think he could rightfully expect more than Franklin. If there are no offers like that, he'll definitely stay (and I was genuinely worried that the Hawks were planning to propose an offer of that magnitude).
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Grazz on October 15, 2015, 02:57:18 PM
Quote from: powersuperkents on October 15, 2015, 02:52:35 PM
Quote from: PowerBug on October 15, 2015, 02:49:35 PM
Quote from: powersuperkents on October 15, 2015, 02:44:57 PM
Need the Hawks to fill their salary cap so that there can be no way they make the rumoured bid for Wingard next season.

Hopefully Carlisle gets big $$
Hahaha yessssss :D Not money for Wingard. He might be going to Collingwood though like every other uncontracted player is rumoured to go though? :P That is sarcasm if people do not get it
I think to lure Wingard away from Port Adelaide would take $800k-$1.2mil per season on a long-term deal. I think he could rightfully expect more than Franklin. If there are no offers like that, he'll definitely stay (and I was genuinely worried that the Hawks were planning to propose an offer of that magnitude).

Hawks could backend any contract they offer to Wingard, I agree though thats the kind of money they'll need to find to get him away from Port. It will be all about dollars as surely success isn't that far off for Port if they can get their shower together again ala 2014.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Holz on October 15, 2015, 02:59:43 PM
Jed Anderson to North.

I dont mind that at all.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: RaisyDaisy on October 15, 2015, 03:01:06 PM
Richmond's take on bringing in Bennell to meet with them

http://www.afl.com.au/news/2015-10-15/bennell-disrespected-tigers-during-trade-talks
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Bill Manspeaker on October 15, 2015, 03:02:30 PM
just about done with the AFL if Hawks get Carlisle. equalization my ass
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: powersuperkents on October 15, 2015, 03:04:21 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on October 15, 2015, 03:01:06 PM
Richmond's take on bringing in Bennell to meet with them

http://www.afl.com.au/news/2015-10-15/bennell-disrespected-tigers-during-trade-talks
I have a feeling that on the Fremantle trade spectrum of Colin Sylvia-to-Luke McPharlin

Bennell may end up leaning more towards the Colin Sylvia side of the spectrum in a year or two
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Ricochet on October 15, 2015, 03:05:30 PM
Quote from: powersuperkents on October 15, 2015, 03:04:21 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on October 15, 2015, 03:01:06 PM
Richmond's take on bringing in Bennell to meet with them

http://www.afl.com.au/news/2015-10-15/bennell-disrespected-tigers-during-trade-talks
I have a feeling that on the Fremantle trade spectrum of Colin Sylvia-to-Luke McPharlin

Bennell may end up leaning more towards the Colin Sylvia side of the spectrum in a year or two
2x Brownlows later
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Southstorm on October 15, 2015, 03:08:04 PM
Quote from: Bill Manspeaker on October 15, 2015, 03:02:30 PM
just about done with the AFL if Hawks get Carlisle. equalization my ass
I've always said that players shouldn't have the right to choose which club they play for until they're a free agent, but if the Hawks are willing to pay that price in picks for Carlisle then the competition is still pretty equal.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: _wato on October 15, 2015, 03:10:16 PM
Lake for Carlisle.

Unbelievable deal for Hawthorn.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: AaronKirk on October 15, 2015, 03:12:27 PM
St Kilda's unwillingness to discuss an equilibrium position to come to an agreement with Essendon has just about cost them Carlisle.

If they offered any alternative to pick 5 then that could have been explored by Essendon and i'm sure a deal would probably have been reached.

But the fact they said we are not giving pick 5 and not offering any alternatives at all has meant Essendon has made discussions with other clubs.

Imagine this? Essendon and Hawthorn co-operating?
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Bill Manspeaker on October 15, 2015, 03:13:23 PM
Quote from: Southstorm on October 15, 2015, 03:08:04 PM
Quote from: Bill Manspeaker on October 15, 2015, 03:02:30 PM
just about done with the AFL if Hawks get Carlisle. equalization my ass
I've always said that players shouldn't have the right to choose which club they play for until they're a free agent, but if the Hawks are willing to pay that price in picks for Carlisle then the competition is still pretty equal.
no it's not. where does it end?

gun goes to Hawks, picks go to club

next year

gun goes to hawks, picks to club

next year

gun goes to hawks....

it will never end, they will always be in the premiership window, and guns will always want to go there because it's a guaranteed flag
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: powersuperkents on October 15, 2015, 03:14:32 PM
Quote from: AaronKirk on October 15, 2015, 03:12:27 PM
St Kilda's unwillingness to discuss an equilibrium position to come to an agreement with Essendon has just about cost them Carlisle.

If they offered any alternative to pick 5 then that could have been explored by Essendon and i'm sure a deal would probably have been reached.

But the fact they said we are not giving pick 5 and not offering any alternatives at all has meant Essendon has made discussions with other clubs.

Imagine this? Essendon and Hawthorn co-operating?
I don't know why St Kilda were not willing to trade pick 5 for Carlisle - it is a fair deal...
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Grazz on October 15, 2015, 03:14:57 PM
Quote from: Bill Manspeaker on October 15, 2015, 03:13:23 PM
Quote from: Southstorm on October 15, 2015, 03:08:04 PM
Quote from: Bill Manspeaker on October 15, 2015, 03:02:30 PM
just about done with the AFL if Hawks get Carlisle. equalization my ass
I've always said that players shouldn't have the right to choose which club they play for until they're a free agent, but if the Hawks are willing to pay that price in picks for Carlisle then the competition is still pretty equal.
no it's not. where does it end?

gun goes to Hawks, picks go to club

next year

gun goes to hawks, picks to club

next year

gun goes to hawks....

it will never end, they will always be in the premiership window, and guns will always want to go there because it's a guaranteed flag

Agree and there lie's the flaw in free agency.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Grazz on October 15, 2015, 03:19:13 PM
Quote from: powersuperkents on October 15, 2015, 03:14:32 PM
Quote from: AaronKirk on October 15, 2015, 03:12:27 PM
St Kilda's unwillingness to discuss an equilibrium position to come to an agreement with Essendon has just about cost them Carlisle.

If they offered any alternative to pick 5 then that could have been explored by Essendon and i'm sure a deal would probably have been reached.

But the fact they said we are not giving pick 5 and not offering any alternatives at all has meant Essendon has made discussions with other clubs.

Imagine this? Essendon and Hawthorn co-operating?
I don't know why St Kilda were not willing to trade pick 5 for Carlisle - it is a fair deal...

Yep they've flowered this up a bit, if you want a player give the pick and get what you want, trying to have your cake and eat it to is thwart with danger in the draft period because sooner or later other clubs get interested as some of their deals don't pan out and you lose the advantage.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Ricochet on October 15, 2015, 03:19:53 PM
Quote from: Grazz on October 15, 2015, 03:14:57 PM
Quote from: Bill Manspeaker on October 15, 2015, 03:13:23 PM
Quote from: Southstorm on October 15, 2015, 03:08:04 PM
Quote from: Bill Manspeaker on October 15, 2015, 03:02:30 PM
just about done with the AFL if Hawks get Carlisle. equalization my ass
I've always said that players shouldn't have the right to choose which club they play for until they're a free agent, but if the Hawks are willing to pay that price in picks for Carlisle then the competition is still pretty equal.
no it's not. where does it end?

gun goes to Hawks, picks go to club

next year

gun goes to hawks, picks to club

next year

gun goes to hawks....

it will never end, they will always be in the premiership window, and guns will always want to go there because it's a guaranteed flag

Agree and there lie's the flaw in free agency.
That's trading, not FA. and will always happen. Clubs just need to get to Hawks level at attracting players
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Ricochet on October 15, 2015, 03:21:51 PM
Jay Clark saying "Jake Carlisle has told Hawks he will play there, if Saints can't do deal (No.5). Hawks have green light"
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Bill Manspeaker on October 15, 2015, 03:23:05 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on October 15, 2015, 03:19:53 PM
Quote from: Grazz on October 15, 2015, 03:14:57 PM
Quote from: Bill Manspeaker on October 15, 2015, 03:13:23 PM
Quote from: Southstorm on October 15, 2015, 03:08:04 PM
Quote from: Bill Manspeaker on October 15, 2015, 03:02:30 PM
just about done with the AFL if Hawks get Carlisle. equalization my ass
I've always said that players shouldn't have the right to choose which club they play for until they're a free agent, but if the Hawks are willing to pay that price in picks for Carlisle then the competition is still pretty equal.
no it's not. where does it end?

gun goes to Hawks, picks go to club

next year

gun goes to hawks, picks to club

next year

gun goes to hawks....

it will never end, they will always be in the premiership window, and guns will always want to go there because it's a guaranteed flag

Agree and there lie's the flaw in free agency.
That's trading, not FA. and will always happen. Clubs just need to get to Hawks level at attracting players
but how can they if Hawks keep poaching the top level players and are always at the top
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: meow meow on October 15, 2015, 03:23:41 PM
Settle down, Carlisle isn't that good anyway. Never finished top 5 in a B&F. Inconsistent, increasingly injury prone sook.

Hawks have lost Franklin to free agency. Some of that money went to Frawley, some to McEvoy and the rest allowed them to keep the rest of their list.

They've lost Suckling, Lake, Hale, Anderson and Whitecross as well as their first round pick and brought in Carlisle. I don't see why everyone thinks they're better off.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: RaisyDaisy on October 15, 2015, 03:24:08 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on October 15, 2015, 03:21:51 PM
Jay Clark saying "Jake Carlisle has told Hawks he will play there, if Saints can't do deal (No.5). Hawks have green light"

I read that as him saying he is still happy to go to STK, but it's obviously up the them now to see if they can give Essendon what they want

If that's the case, fair play by Jake
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Southstorm on October 15, 2015, 03:24:16 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on October 15, 2015, 03:21:51 PM
Jay Clark saying "Jake Carlisle has told Hawks he will play there, if Saints can't do deal (No.5). Hawks have green light"
I think Ameet just had his pants dropped and got bent over the table.... They might have got away with paying unders two days ago, now it could be overs if they really want him.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Pkbaldy on October 15, 2015, 03:26:05 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on October 15, 2015, 03:21:51 PM
Jay Clark saying "Jake Carlisle has told Hawks he will play there, if Saints can't do deal (No.5). Hawks have green light"

Jay Clark get the Carlisle before his Manager or Clarkson? What a laugh.

I couldn't care less if we get Carlisle or not. Rather get a player through free agency next year than spend a pick. We are the only club not to take advantage of FA, and it shows. Hurley as a free agent will be nice once he's OOC.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Holz on October 15, 2015, 03:26:53 PM
Quote from: Bill Manspeaker on October 15, 2015, 03:23:05 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on October 15, 2015, 03:19:53 PM
Quote from: Grazz on October 15, 2015, 03:14:57 PM
Quote from: Bill Manspeaker on October 15, 2015, 03:13:23 PM
Quote from: Southstorm on October 15, 2015, 03:08:04 PM
Quote from: Bill Manspeaker on October 15, 2015, 03:02:30 PM
just about done with the AFL if Hawks get Carlisle. equalization my ass
I've always said that players shouldn't have the right to choose which club they play for until they're a free agent, but if the Hawks are willing to pay that price in picks for Carlisle then the competition is still pretty equal.
no it's not. where does it end?

gun goes to Hawks, picks go to club

next year

gun goes to hawks, picks to club

next year

gun goes to hawks....

it will never end, they will always be in the premiership window, and guns will always want to go there because it's a guaranteed flag

Agree and there lie's the flaw in free agency.
That's trading, not FA. and will always happen. Clubs just need to get to Hawks level at attracting players
but how can they if Hawks keep poaching the top level players and are always at the top

because when they fall they will fall hard.

Frawley and Carlisle arent that good.

remember they have lost Josh Kenendy and Franklin.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: powersuperkents on October 15, 2015, 03:27:32 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on October 15, 2015, 03:21:51 PM
Jay Clark saying "Jake Carlisle has told Hawks he will play there, if Saints can't do deal (No.5). Hawks have green light"
Spot the difference  :P

(http://www.phantombrownlowmedal.com.au/images/players/jake-carlisle.png)(http://s.afl.com.au/staticfile/AFL%20Tenant/Melbourne/Player%20Profiles/2014%20-%20Profiles/FRAWLEY%20James.png) (http://s.afl.com.au/staticfile/AFL%20Tenant/GWSGiants/Player%20Profiles/2014%20-%20Profiles/ORourke297.png)
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Ricochet on October 15, 2015, 03:27:57 PM
Quote from: Bill Manspeaker on October 15, 2015, 03:23:05 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on October 15, 2015, 03:19:53 PM
Quote from: Grazz on October 15, 2015, 03:14:57 PM
Quote from: Bill Manspeaker on October 15, 2015, 03:13:23 PM
Quote from: Southstorm on October 15, 2015, 03:08:04 PM
Quote from: Bill Manspeaker on October 15, 2015, 03:02:30 PM
just about done with the AFL if Hawks get Carlisle. equalization my ass
I've always said that players shouldn't have the right to choose which club they play for until they're a free agent, but if the Hawks are willing to pay that price in picks for Carlisle then the competition is still pretty equal.
no it's not. where does it end?

gun goes to Hawks, picks go to club

next year

gun goes to hawks, picks to club

next year

gun goes to hawks....

it will never end, they will always be in the premiership window, and guns will always want to go there because it's a guaranteed flag

Agree and there lie's the flaw in free agency.
That's trading, not FA. and will always happen. Clubs just need to get to Hawks level at attracting players
but how can they if Hawks keep poaching the top level players and are always at the top
They are giving up something decent for Carlisle though. And if Saints had offered overs (like Geelong have so far this period) and included pick 5 (and gotten Essendon's 2nd rounder back) then the deal would probably have been done already. It's why Freo are trying to offer overs for McCarthy, to get the job done

Quote from: meow meow on October 15, 2015, 03:23:41 PM
Settle down, Carlisle isn't that good anyway. Never finished top 5 in a B&F. Inconsistent, increasingly injury prone sook.

Hawks have lost Franklin to free agency. Some of that money went to Frawley, some to McEvoy and the rest allowed them to keep the rest of their list.

They've lost Suckling, Lake, Hale, Anderson and Whitecross as well as their first round pick and brought in Carlisle. I don't see why everyone thinks they're better off.
^
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Southstorm on October 15, 2015, 03:28:21 PM
Quote from: Pkbaldy on October 15, 2015, 03:26:05 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on October 15, 2015, 03:21:51 PM
Jay Clark saying "Jake Carlisle has told Hawks he will play there, if Saints can't do deal (No.5). Hawks have green light"

Jay Clark get the Carlisle before his Manager or Clarkson? What a laugh.

I couldn't care less if we get Carlisle or not. Rather get a player through free agency next year than spend a pick. We are the only club not to take advantage of FA, and it shows. Hurley as a free agent will be nice once he's OOC.
Think Hurley would be much less likely to leave than Carlisle I'm afraid.

Not the end of the world if you don't get Carlisle for sure though.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Pkbaldy on October 15, 2015, 03:28:36 PM
Quote from: powersuperkents on October 15, 2015, 03:27:32 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on October 15, 2015, 03:21:51 PM
Jay Clark saying "Jake Carlisle has told Hawks he will play there, if Saints can't do deal (No.5). Hawks have green light"
Spot the difference  :P

(http://www.phantombrownlowmedal.com.au/images/players/jake-carlisle.png)(http://s.afl.com.au/staticfile/AFL%20Tenant/Melbourne/Player%20Profiles/2014%20-%20Profiles/FRAWLEY%20James.png) (http://s.afl.com.au/staticfile/AFL%20Tenant/GWSGiants/Player%20Profiles/2014%20-%20Profiles/ORourke297.png)

I can see a similarity... They all look stoned. haha
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: powersuperkents on October 15, 2015, 03:30:04 PM
Quote from: Holz on October 15, 2015, 03:26:53 PM
Quote from: Bill Manspeaker on October 15, 2015, 03:23:05 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on October 15, 2015, 03:19:53 PM
Quote from: Grazz on October 15, 2015, 03:14:57 PM
Quote from: Bill Manspeaker on October 15, 2015, 03:13:23 PM
Quote from: Southstorm on October 15, 2015, 03:08:04 PM
Quote from: Bill Manspeaker on October 15, 2015, 03:02:30 PM
just about done with the AFL if Hawks get Carlisle. equalization my ass
I've always said that players shouldn't have the right to choose which club they play for until they're a free agent, but if the Hawks are willing to pay that price in picks for Carlisle then the competition is still pretty equal.
no it's not. where does it end?

gun goes to Hawks, picks go to club

next year

gun goes to hawks, picks to club

next year

gun goes to hawks....

it will never end, they will always be in the premiership window, and guns will always want to go there because it's a guaranteed flag

Agree and there lie's the flaw in free agency.
That's trading, not FA. and will always happen. Clubs just need to get to Hawks level at attracting players
but how can they if Hawks keep poaching the top level players and are always at the top

because when they fall they will fall hard.

Frawley and Carlisle arent that good.

remember they have lost Josh Kenendy and Franklin.
young players at the club are starting to want out as well - not that many but still 1 or more per off-season. 
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Jay on October 15, 2015, 03:31:52 PM
Quote from: Bill Manspeaker on October 15, 2015, 03:02:30 PM
just about done with the AFL if Hawks get Carlisle. equalization my ass
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Bill Manspeaker on October 15, 2015, 03:32:37 PM
Quote from: Holz on October 15, 2015, 03:26:53 PM
Quote from: Bill Manspeaker on October 15, 2015, 03:23:05 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on October 15, 2015, 03:19:53 PM
Quote from: Grazz on October 15, 2015, 03:14:57 PM
Quote from: Bill Manspeaker on October 15, 2015, 03:13:23 PM
Quote from: Southstorm on October 15, 2015, 03:08:04 PM
Quote from: Bill Manspeaker on October 15, 2015, 03:02:30 PM
just about done with the AFL if Hawks get Carlisle. equalization my ass
I've always said that players shouldn't have the right to choose which club they play for until they're a free agent, but if the Hawks are willing to pay that price in picks for Carlisle then the competition is still pretty equal.
no it's not. where does it end?

gun goes to Hawks, picks go to club

next year

gun goes to hawks, picks to club

next year

gun goes to hawks....

it will never end, they will always be in the premiership window, and guns will always want to go there because it's a guaranteed flag

Agree and there lie's the flaw in free agency.
That's trading, not FA. and will always happen. Clubs just need to get to Hawks level at attracting players
but how can they if Hawks keep poaching the top level players and are always at the top

because when they fall they will fall hard.

Frawley and Carlisle arent that good.

remember they have lost Josh Kenendy and Franklin.
yeah, they lost them... yet just won their third flag in a row? and look like going into next year as a top contender as well.

if, and that's a big if, Carlisle goes against his word and joins the Hawks, then flower him and we're better off without that type of person anyway
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Pkbaldy on October 15, 2015, 03:32:45 PM
Quote from: Southstorm on October 15, 2015, 03:28:21 PM
Quote from: Pkbaldy on October 15, 2015, 03:26:05 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on October 15, 2015, 03:21:51 PM
Jay Clark saying "Jake Carlisle has told Hawks he will play there, if Saints can't do deal (No.5). Hawks have green light"

Jay Clark get the Carlisle before his Manager or Clarkson? What a laugh.

I couldn't care less if we get Carlisle or not. Rather get a player through free agency next year than spend a pick. We are the only club not to take advantage of FA, and it shows. Hurley as a free agent will be nice once he's OOC.
Think Hurley would be much less likely to leave than Carlisle I'm afraid.

Not the end of the world if you don't get Carlisle for sure though.

I agree with you with Hurley man. I'm banking on the $$$ and childhood team in our favor to secure Hurley.

Even if we miss out of Carlisle i'd still be happy with 5 + 24 for 9 + 13 if Adelaide were still keen. Attempt to get Balic and Collins.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: powersuperkents on October 15, 2015, 03:33:45 PM
I guess Carlisle really wants a picture of himself painted gold  :P

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/B2DTnQHCMAIlxey.jpg)

#lame
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Southstorm on October 15, 2015, 03:36:37 PM
Quote from: Pkbaldy on October 15, 2015, 03:32:45 PM
Quote from: Southstorm on October 15, 2015, 03:28:21 PM
Quote from: Pkbaldy on October 15, 2015, 03:26:05 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on October 15, 2015, 03:21:51 PM
Jay Clark saying "Jake Carlisle has told Hawks he will play there, if Saints can't do deal (No.5). Hawks have green light"

Jay Clark get the Carlisle before his Manager or Clarkson? What a laugh.

I couldn't care less if we get Carlisle or not. Rather get a player through free agency next year than spend a pick. We are the only club not to take advantage of FA, and it shows. Hurley as a free agent will be nice once he's OOC.
Think Hurley would be much less likely to leave than Carlisle I'm afraid.

Not the end of the world if you don't get Carlisle for sure though.

I agree with you with Hurley man. I'm banking on the $$$ and childhood team in our favor to secure Hurley.

Even if we miss out of Carlisle i'd still be happy with 5 + 24 for 9 + 13 if Adelaide were still keen. Attempt to get Balic and Collins.
Well, the bombers will be on a lot of money next year because we were saving bank for Jake. Not sure which other KPDs come into play next year. Think it's imperative the Saints find away to grab one from another club if you're serious about the imminent finals push.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: meow meow on October 15, 2015, 03:55:06 PM
TBH Saints are a loooooong way off finals.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Pkbaldy on October 15, 2015, 04:00:10 PM
Quote from: meow meow on October 15, 2015, 03:55:06 PM
TBH Saints are a loooooong way off finals.

So were the Dogs. And so were Port.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: kilbluff1985 on October 15, 2015, 04:02:21 PM
Carlisle has told Bombers he is happy to go to the Hawks if Saints wont trade pick 5
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Holz on October 15, 2015, 04:03:15 PM
Quote from: Pkbaldy on October 15, 2015, 04:00:10 PM
Quote from: meow meow on October 15, 2015, 03:55:06 PM
TBH Saints are a loooooong way off finals.

So were the Dogs. And so were Port.

where was port last year.

Carlisle isnt a difference maker in making finals. If it was Rance Goldy JJK or Danger maybe.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Pkbaldy on October 15, 2015, 04:06:26 PM
Quote from: Holz on October 15, 2015, 04:03:15 PM
Quote from: Pkbaldy on October 15, 2015, 04:00:10 PM
Quote from: meow meow on October 15, 2015, 03:55:06 PM
TBH Saints are a loooooong way off finals.

So were the Dogs. And so were Port.

where was port last year.

Carlisle isnt a difference maker in making finals. If it was Rance Goldy JJK or Danger maybe.

Top 4.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: kilbluff1985 on October 15, 2015, 04:09:29 PM
Quote from: Holz on October 15, 2015, 04:03:15 PM
Quote from: Pkbaldy on October 15, 2015, 04:00:10 PM
Quote from: meow meow on October 15, 2015, 03:55:06 PM
TBH Saints are a loooooong way off finals.

So were the Dogs. And so were Port.

where was port last year.

Carlisle isnt a difference maker in making finals. If it was Rance Goldy JJK or Danger maybe.

silly comment Holz

how do you know how he would perform for Hawks in a finals campaign no reason he couldn't have a impact
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Bill Manspeaker on October 15, 2015, 04:10:58 PM
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on October 15, 2015, 04:02:21 PM
Carlisle has told Bombers he is happy to go to the Hawks if Saints wont trade pick 5

why would that matter one iota to Carlisle? remember Carlisle couldn't wait to get out of there. why would he only come to the Saints if it costs the Saints pick 5
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Holz on October 15, 2015, 04:11:57 PM
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on October 15, 2015, 04:09:29 PM
Quote from: Holz on October 15, 2015, 04:03:15 PM
Quote from: Pkbaldy on October 15, 2015, 04:00:10 PM
Quote from: meow meow on October 15, 2015, 03:55:06 PM
TBH Saints are a loooooong way off finals.

So were the Dogs. And so were Port.

where was port last year.

Carlisle isnt a difference maker in making finals. If it was Rance Goldy JJK or Danger maybe.

silly comment Holz

how do you know how he would perform for Hawks in a finals campaign no reason he couldn't have a impact

he could help the hawks. I never said he wouldnt.

I said he isnt the type of guy that turns a non finals team into a finals team.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: meow meow on October 15, 2015, 04:12:11 PM
Quote from: Pkbaldy on October 15, 2015, 04:00:10 PM
Quote from: meow meow on October 15, 2015, 03:55:06 PM
TBH Saints are a loooooong way off finals.

So were the Dogs. And so were Port.

People say you can do a WB but we started our rebuild way back in 2010 with Libba, Wallis, Dahl and JJ. Add in Koby, Stringer, Macrae and Bont and there you go. It didn't just happen in one year. Port had super talents like Gray, Boak, Hartlett, Wingard on their list. The top end talent was there at both clubs. Saints have gotten what? One superstar in the making in Billings and a bunch of average players (Weller, Membrey, Delaney, Savage, Webster), some spuds (Lee, Acres, Wright) or guys like Longer, Goddard and McCartin who are miles off. Where is the cream? Newnes, Roberton and Bruce were good pick ups but the rest of your list lacks quality.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Pkbaldy on October 15, 2015, 04:13:04 PM
APPARENTLY Carlisle said he would be fine to go to the Hawks if NO deal was done. Didn't specify pick 5 in anyway.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Ricochet on October 15, 2015, 04:13:32 PM
Quote from: Bill Manspeaker on October 15, 2015, 04:10:58 PM
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on October 15, 2015, 04:02:21 PM
Carlisle has told Bombers he is happy to go to the Hawks if Saints wont trade pick 5

why would that matter one iota to Carlisle? remember Carlisle couldn't wait to get out of there. why would he only come to the Saints if it costs the Saints pick 5
No that's not what he said. He said he'd be happy to go to the Hawks if they can't get a deal done with Saints. People are taking that as him saying he'll go to Hawks if Saints won't trade pick 5.

EDIT: Yep this...
Quote from: Pkbaldy on October 15, 2015, 04:13:04 PM
APPARENTLY Carlisle said he would be fine to go to the Hawks if NO deal was done. Didn't specify pick 5 in anyway.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: RaisyDaisy on October 15, 2015, 04:18:37 PM
LOL, was already covered previously  :P

Quote from: RaisyDaisy on October 15, 2015, 03:24:08 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on October 15, 2015, 03:21:51 PM
Jay Clark saying "Jake Carlisle has told Hawks he will play there, if Saints can't do deal (No.5). Hawks have green light"

I read that as him saying he is still happy to go to STK, but it's obviously up the them now to see if they can give Essendon what they want

If that's the case, fair play by Jake
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: kilbluff1985 on October 15, 2015, 04:19:10 PM
not what Jay Clark said
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: PowerBug on October 15, 2015, 04:19:41 PM
He says that, but he could easily be secretly hoping that no deal gets done so he ends up at Hawthorn :D
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: RaisyDaisy on October 15, 2015, 04:22:36 PM
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on October 15, 2015, 04:19:10 PM
not what Jay Clark said

You're missing the point What Clark said is irrelevant

Carlisle said he is still happy to go to STK if a deal can be worked out, and if not then he will go to Hawks
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Pkbaldy on October 15, 2015, 04:24:15 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on October 15, 2015, 04:22:36 PM
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on October 15, 2015, 04:19:10 PM
not what Jay Clark said

You're missing the point What Clark said is irrelevant

Carlisle said he is still happy to go to STK if a deal can be worked out, and if not then he will go to Hawks

Are we sure this is what Carlisle said? High chances he's popping pingas like a mad flowerer or sleeping. Probably all speculation at the moment.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: kilbluff1985 on October 15, 2015, 04:26:14 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on October 15, 2015, 04:22:36 PM
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on October 15, 2015, 04:19:10 PM
not what Jay Clark said

You're missing the point What Clark said is irrelevant

Carlisle said he is still happy to go to STK if a deal can be worked out, and if not then he will go to Hawks

not really missing the point at all my point was it's pushing Saints to trade pick 5 if they want him
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Big Mac on October 15, 2015, 05:04:01 PM
Not sure if you guys mentioned it but the Melksham trade is official
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Big Mac on October 15, 2015, 05:15:02 PM
What do you guys think of this:

Howe + 43

For

Kennedy + 26

Depends how highly Collingwood rate Kennedy I guess
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: RaisyDaisy on October 15, 2015, 05:35:14 PM
Not huge news, but Hawthorn are thinking about picking up delisted Demon Jack Fitzpatrick in the draft
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Pkbaldy on October 15, 2015, 05:39:39 PM
Quote from: Big  Mac on October 15, 2015, 05:15:02 PM
What do you guys think of this:

Howe + 43

For

Kennedy + 26

Depends how highly Collingwood rate Kennedy I guess

Seems pretty fair to me. Kennedy hasn't show much at all. And Howe is proven to actually play well. I see no problems with that. Win for both sides in my opinion.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Ricochet on October 15, 2015, 05:41:18 PM
Leuey is officially a Bomber. Brissie are not matching the offer
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: iZander on October 15, 2015, 05:45:32 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on October 15, 2015, 05:41:18 PM
Leuey is officially a Bomber. Brissie are not matching the offer
Good news for the bombers :P Do Brissy get Pick 22 comp?

Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Ricochet on October 15, 2015, 05:45:58 PM
Quote from: iZander on October 15, 2015, 05:45:32 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on October 15, 2015, 05:41:18 PM
Leuey is officially a Bomber. Brissie are not matching the offer
Good news for the bombers :P Do Brissy get Pick 22 comp?
#39
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Adamant on October 15, 2015, 05:48:20 PM
Essendon Trade Period

OUT: Jake Melksham, N39
IN: Matthew Leuenberger, N25

Massive win for them!
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: iZander on October 15, 2015, 05:49:57 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on October 15, 2015, 05:45:58 PM
Quote from: iZander on October 15, 2015, 05:45:32 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on October 15, 2015, 05:41:18 PM
Leuey is officially a Bomber. Brissie are not matching the offer
Good news for the bombers :P Do Brissy get Pick 22 comp?
#39
haha, surly they could of got our pick 25 for him? Not complain though :P

Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: PowerBug on October 15, 2015, 05:52:24 PM
Quote from: Adamant on October 15, 2015, 05:48:20 PM
Essendon Trade Period

OUT: Jake Melksham, N39
IN: Matthew Leuenberger, N25

Massive win for them!
Essendon didn't give up N39. That was just the compo pick Lions got. And they'll get something good for Carlisle too
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Adamant on October 15, 2015, 05:53:43 PM
Quote from: PowerBug on October 15, 2015, 05:52:24 PM
Quote from: Adamant on October 15, 2015, 05:48:20 PM
Essendon Trade Period

OUT: Jake Melksham, N39
IN: Matthew Leuenberger, N25

Massive win for them!
Essendon didn't give up N39. That was just the compo pick Lions got. And they'll get something good for Carlisle too

Even better then. :P
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: RaisyDaisy on October 15, 2015, 06:02:58 PM
Quote from: Adamant on October 15, 2015, 05:53:43 PM
Quote from: PowerBug on October 15, 2015, 05:52:24 PM
Quote from: Adamant on October 15, 2015, 05:48:20 PM
Essendon Trade Period

OUT: Jake Melksham, N39
IN: Matthew Leuenberger, N25

Massive win for them!
Essendon didn't give up N39. That was just the compo pick Lions got. And they'll get something good for Carlisle too

Even better then. :P

Yep, Luey and 25 for Melksham! lol
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: iZander on October 15, 2015, 06:06:29 PM
Quote from: PowerBug on October 15, 2015, 05:52:24 PM
Quote from: Adamant on October 15, 2015, 05:48:20 PM
Essendon Trade Period

OUT: Jake Melksham, N39
IN: Matthew Leuenberger, N25

Massive win for them!
Essendon didn't give up N39. That was just the compo pick Lions got. And they'll get something good for Carlisle too
Should be a minimum of picks 15 and 18, which is pretty decent :)
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Holz on October 15, 2015, 06:10:35 PM
Quote from: iZander on October 15, 2015, 06:06:29 PM
Quote from: PowerBug on October 15, 2015, 05:52:24 PM
Quote from: Adamant on October 15, 2015, 05:48:20 PM
Essendon Trade Period

OUT: Jake Melksham, N39
IN: Matthew Leuenberger, N25

Massive win for them!
Essendon didn't give up N39. That was just the compo pick Lions got. And they'll get something good for Carlisle too
Should be a minimum of picks 15 and 18, which is pretty decent :)
unfortauntely they are still essendon though. Couldnt trade that away.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: tbagrocks on October 15, 2015, 06:11:57 PM
A little perplexed why we need to land Hampton and Seedsman, with Hendo, Laird, Smith and Jaensch coming back from injury. I guess depth never hurt anyone but I wouldn't expect Seedsman to start round 1

Also, flower off Hawthorn you flowering CHEATS!!
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: meow meow on October 15, 2015, 06:29:52 PM
Hawks opened up salary cap space with Suckling, Hale and Lake moving on. They are trading Jed Anderson and a first round pick. Not sure how that is cheating. Standard salary cap and list management I'd say.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Barra13 on October 15, 2015, 06:30:56 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on October 15, 2015, 06:02:58 PM
Quote from: Adamant on October 15, 2015, 05:53:43 PM
Quote from: PowerBug on October 15, 2015, 05:52:24 PM
Quote from: Adamant on October 15, 2015, 05:48:20 PM
Essendon Trade Period

OUT: Jake Melksham, N39
IN: Matthew Leuenberger, N25

Massive win for them!
Essendon didn't give up N39. That was just the compo pick Lions got. And they'll get something good for Carlisle too

Even better then. :P

Yep, Luey and 25 for Melksham! lol

:'(
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Purple 77 on October 15, 2015, 06:34:05 PM
Quote from: Big  Mac on October 15, 2015, 05:15:02 PM
What do you guys think of this:

Howe + 43

For

Kennedy + 26

Depends how highly Collingwood rate Kennedy I guess

I was thinking this the other day.

Then use Pick 26 FOR Bugg and something...


Far out I'm dirty that Smells Ham is a demon >:(
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Barra13 on October 15, 2015, 06:38:53 PM
I will give him a clean slate and see what he can do. Goodwin and McCartney have spent time with him so lets see what they see.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Football Factory on October 15, 2015, 06:39:20 PM
Quote from: Purple 77 on October 15, 2015, 06:34:05 PM
Quote from: Big  Mac on October 15, 2015, 05:15:02 PM
What do you guys think of this:

Howe + 43

For

Kennedy + 26

Depends how highly Collingwood rate Kennedy I guess

I was thinking this the other day.

Then use Pick 26 FOR Bugg and something...


Far out I'm dirty that Smells Ham is a demon >:(

Im sure he will feel welcome knowing some Demons fans reckon he's a spud
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: TomK on October 15, 2015, 06:40:17 PM
Quote from: tbagrocks on October 15, 2015, 06:11:57 PM
A little perplexed why we need to land Hampton and Seedsman, with Hendo, Laird, Smith and Jaensch coming back from injury. I guess depth never hurt anyone but I wouldn't expect Seedsman to start round 1
Cause we need speed and good ball users. Not going to get very far when we are the 2nd worst team at kicking, plus Hendo is a liability and Jaensch is out for half the season. If we're prepared to spend a 2nd rounder on Seed, he'll start.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Purple 77 on October 15, 2015, 06:42:23 PM
Quote from: FOOTBALL FACTORY on October 15, 2015, 06:39:20 PM
Quote from: Purple 77 on October 15, 2015, 06:34:05 PM
Quote from: Big  Mac on October 15, 2015, 05:15:02 PM
What do you guys think of this:

Howe + 43

For

Kennedy + 26

Depends how highly Collingwood rate Kennedy I guess

I was thinking this the other day.

Then use Pick 26 FOR Bugg and something...


Far out I'm dirty that Smells Ham is a demon >:(

Im sure he will feel welcome knowing some Demons fans reckon he's a spud

And feel even better when essendon fans showed him the door...
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Football Factory on October 15, 2015, 06:45:48 PM
Quote from: Purple 77 on October 15, 2015, 06:42:23 PM
Quote from: FOOTBALL FACTORY on October 15, 2015, 06:39:20 PM
Quote from: Purple 77 on October 15, 2015, 06:34:05 PM
Quote from: Big  Mac on October 15, 2015, 05:15:02 PM
What do you guys think of this:

Howe + 43

For

Kennedy + 26

Depends how highly Collingwood rate Kennedy I guess

I was thinking this the other day.

Then use Pick 26 FOR Bugg and something...


Far out I'm dirty that Smells Ham is a demon >:(

Im sure he will feel welcome knowing some Demons fans reckon he's a spud

And feel even better when essendon fans showed him the door...

Not something we have to worry about .. he plays for the Dees now
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Grazz on October 15, 2015, 06:46:58 PM
Quote from: TomK on October 15, 2015, 06:40:17 PM
Quote from: tbagrocks on October 15, 2015, 06:11:57 PM
A little perplexed why we need to land Hampton and Seedsman, with Hendo, Laird, Smith and Jaensch coming back from injury. I guess depth never hurt anyone but I wouldn't expect Seedsman to start round 1
Cause we need speed and good ball users. Not going to get very far when we are the 2nd worst team at kicking, plus Hendo is a liability and Jaensch is out for half the season. If we're prepared to spend a 2nd rounder on Seed, he'll start.

Hendo does butcher it, powered me off on many occasions this year. Wouldn't bother me one bit to see Seed's grab his spot.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Big Mac on October 15, 2015, 06:47:00 PM
Quote from: FOOTBALL FACTORY on October 15, 2015, 06:39:20 PM
Quote from: Purple 77 on October 15, 2015, 06:34:05 PM
Quote from: Big  Mac on October 15, 2015, 05:15:02 PM
What do you guys think of this:

Howe + 43

For

Kennedy + 26

Depends how highly Collingwood rate Kennedy I guess

I was thinking this the other day.

Then use Pick 26 FOR Bugg and something...


Far out I'm dirty that Smells Ham is a demon >:(

Im sure he will feel welcome knowing some Demons fans reckon he's a spud

Really don't care if he feels "welcome" or not

Everyone's opinion will change if he can perform on the field

The ball's in his court
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Purple 77 on October 15, 2015, 06:48:01 PM
Can't help but notice, there isn't a Jake Melksham edition of the "Getting Excited By: " series  :(
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Money Shot on October 15, 2015, 06:50:12 PM
Any news on the signing of Kerridige (May have spelt the name wrong) to Carlton?
Also are the lions still firm on Aish going to the draft?
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: _wato on October 15, 2015, 06:51:04 PM
Quote from: meow meow on October 15, 2015, 06:29:52 PM
Hawks opened up salary cap space with Suckling, Hale and Lake moving on. They are trading Jed Anderson and a first round pick. Not sure how that is cheating. Standard salary cap and list management I'd say.

Could not agree more, everyone is being a little childish, and this is the second year running that Hawks have done this anyway, so I don't know why everyone is making a big deal about it?

Hawks will finally fall off their perch, because there is no way they'll succeed in pulling off free agents year after year to continue stocking their team, and at the same time continue to influx the side with youthful draft picks.

If the list stays the same this will be the ages of the (older) players currently in the team at Round 1 next year (approximately)

SMitch 33, 5 months
Burgoyne 33, 5 months
Gibson 32
Hodge 31, 8 months
Lewis 30
Roughy 29, 1 month
Puopolo, Birch etc will be 28+

In 3-4 years they're all gone and leave a gaping hole in their side. Their youngsters don't look great (maybe because we haven't seen any of them play) and it will be very interesting to see the development of this great Hawthorn side in years to come.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: _wato on October 15, 2015, 06:59:27 PM
Quote from: Money Shot on October 15, 2015, 06:50:12 PM
Any news on the signing of Kerridige (May have spelt the name wrong) to Carlton?
Also are the lions still firm on Aish going to the draft?

If Brisbane did send him to the draft, surely Carlron would not get Aish at pick 1? That would be one of the worst draft decisions ever, when they've just lost Henderson, Casboult looks likely to go and they're only other talls are Watson, Jamison, Jones and Walker (from Geelong)
The biggest thing though is that Weitering looks like an absolute jet (dont think I've ever seen a better player at draft age) and is one of the very first times that a key defender is going to go at #1, or am I completely wrong??
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Nige on October 15, 2015, 07:02:53 PM
Quote from: _wato on October 15, 2015, 06:59:27 PM
Quote from: Money Shot on October 15, 2015, 06:50:12 PM
Any news on the signing of Kerridige (May have spelt the name wrong) to Carlton?
Also are the lions still firm on Aish going to the draft?

If Brisbane did send him to the draft, surely Carlron would not get Aish at pick 1? That would be one of the worst draft decisions ever, when they've just lost Henderson, Casboult looks likely to go and they're only other talls are Watson, Jamison, Jones and Walker (from Geelong)
The biggest thing though is that Weitering looks like an absolute jet (dont think I've ever seen a better player at draft age) and is one of the very first times that a key defender is going to go at #1, or am I completely wrong??
Different drafts bud.

They'll get Weitering with Pick 1 in the National Draft.

They'll have Pick 1 in the pre-season draft which is where they can take Aish or whoever.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Ricochet on October 15, 2015, 07:03:43 PM
Ben Lennon has re-signed with Richmond
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Money Shot on October 15, 2015, 07:04:18 PM
Quote from: _wato on October 15, 2015, 06:59:27 PM
Quote from: Money Shot on October 15, 2015, 06:50:12 PM
Any news on the signing of Kerridige (May have spelt the name wrong) to Carlton?
Also are the lions still firm on Aish going to the draft?

If Brisbane did send him to the draft, surely Carlron would not get Aish at pick 1? That would be one of the worst draft decisions ever, when they've just lost Henderson, Casboult looks likely to go and they're only other talls are Watson, Jamison, Jones and Walker (from Geelong)
The biggest thing though is that Weitering looks like an absolute jet (dont think I've ever seen a better player at draft age) and is one of the very first times that a key defender is going to go at #1, or am I completely wrong??
I may be mistaken but isn't there two different drafts where we could get Weitering in one and Aish in the other?
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: _wato on October 15, 2015, 07:06:24 PM
Quote from: Money Shot on October 15, 2015, 07:04:18 PM
Quote from: _wato on October 15, 2015, 06:59:27 PM
Quote from: Money Shot on October 15, 2015, 06:50:12 PM
Any news on the signing of Kerridige (May have spelt the name wrong) to Carlton?
Also are the lions still firm on Aish going to the draft?

If Brisbane did send him to the draft, surely Carlron would not get Aish at pick 1? That would be one of the worst draft decisions ever, when they've just lost Henderson, Casboult looks likely to go and they're only other talls are Watson, Jamison, Jones and Walker (from Geelong)
The biggest thing though is that Weitering looks like an absolute jet (dont think I've ever seen a better player at draft age) and is one of the very first times that a key defender is going to go at #1, or am I completely wrong??
I may be mistaken but isn't there two different drafts where we could get Weitering in one and Aish in the other?

Oh yasssss, totally forgot hahahaha
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Toga on October 15, 2015, 07:06:31 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on October 15, 2015, 07:03:43 PM
Ben Lennon has re-signed with Richmond

:D :D
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Money Shot on October 15, 2015, 07:07:45 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on October 15, 2015, 07:03:43 PM
Ben Lennon has re-signed with Richmond
That's a huge win for the tigers!
Yarran for next years first round has been rumoured and it's looking more likely with that signing!
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Toga on October 15, 2015, 07:09:32 PM
Quote from: Money Shot on October 15, 2015, 07:04:18 PM
Quote from: _wato on October 15, 2015, 06:59:27 PM
Quote from: Money Shot on October 15, 2015, 06:50:12 PM
Any news on the signing of Kerridige (May have spelt the name wrong) to Carlton?
Also are the lions still firm on Aish going to the draft?

If Brisbane did send him to the draft, surely Carlron would not get Aish at pick 1? That would be one of the worst draft decisions ever, when they've just lost Henderson, Casboult looks likely to go and they're only other talls are Watson, Jamison, Jones and Walker (from Geelong)
The biggest thing though is that Weitering looks like an absolute jet (dont think I've ever seen a better player at draft age) and is one of the very first times that a key defender is going to go at #1, or am I completely wrong??
I may be mistaken but isn't there two different drafts where we could get Weitering in one and Aish in the other?

Yeah, Aish can nominate to go to either the National or Preseason drafts. More likely to be the PSD though as he will then be able to nominate an asking price for his contract I think?
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Ricochet on October 15, 2015, 07:12:58 PM
Apparently Brisbane have opened talks with Collingwood on James Aish today.

and

The Age saying Geelong will trade Josh Walker and Jarrad Jansen to Brisbane for Lions 3rd Round pick in 2016.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Toga on October 15, 2015, 07:14:08 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on October 15, 2015, 07:12:58 PM
Apparently Brisbane have opened talks with Collingwood on James Aish today.

Just saying - if Collingwood is chasing Aish, Howe, etc are they leaving enough leeway in picks to be able to nab Treloar? ???
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Ricochet on October 15, 2015, 07:16:00 PM
Quote from: Toga on October 15, 2015, 07:14:08 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on October 15, 2015, 07:12:58 PM
Apparently Brisbane have opened talks with Collingwood on James Aish today.

Just saying - if Collingwood is chasing Aish, Howe, etc are they leaving enough leeway in picks to be able to nab Treloar? ???
Seedsman and Kennedy out will give them some picks to play with
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: _wato on October 15, 2015, 07:17:23 PM
Quote from: Toga on October 15, 2015, 07:14:08 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on October 15, 2015, 07:12:58 PM
Apparently Brisbane have opened talks with Collingwood on James Aish today.

Just saying - if Collingwood is chasing Aish, Howe, etc are they leaving enough leeway in picks to be able to nab Treloar? ???

This years and next years first rounders for Treloar and a second round, second round + Kennedy onto Melbourne for Howe, and then package a player with a second round pick or two second rounders maybe for Aish??? It'll be interesting, Lions won't be happy with it hahahah
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: meow meow on October 15, 2015, 07:20:36 PM
Quote from: Toga on October 15, 2015, 07:09:32 PM
Quote from: Money Shot on October 15, 2015, 07:04:18 PM
Quote from: _wato on October 15, 2015, 06:59:27 PM
Quote from: Money Shot on October 15, 2015, 06:50:12 PM
Any news on the signing of Kerridige (May have spelt the name wrong) to Carlton?
Also are the lions still firm on Aish going to the draft?

If Brisbane did send him to the draft, surely Carlron would not get Aish at pick 1? That would be one of the worst draft decisions ever, when they've just lost Henderson, Casboult looks likely to go and they're only other talls are Watson, Jamison, Jones and Walker (from Geelong)
The biggest thing though is that Weitering looks like an absolute jet (dont think I've ever seen a better player at draft age) and is one of the very first times that a key defender is going to go at #1, or am I completely wrong??
I may be mistaken but isn't there two different drafts where we could get Weitering in one and Aish in the other?

Yeah, Aish can nominate to go to either the National or Preseason drafts. More likely to be the PSD though as he will then be able to nominate an asking price for his contract I think?

Other way around. Luke Ball is a prime example. 500K on his head and went at pick 30 in the national draft.

Quote from: Toga on October 15, 2015, 07:14:08 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on October 15, 2015, 07:12:58 PM
Apparently Brisbane have opened talks with Collingwood on James Aish today.

Just saying - if Collingwood is chasing Aish, Howe, etc are they leaving enough leeway in picks to be able to nab Treloar? ???

Howe for their 2nd rounder should be right. Maybe Kennedy + their 4th round for Howe and Melbourne's 5th round.

Freeman + Seedsman 2nd round picks should be enough for Aish, who is definitely not still worth pick 7 anymore.

2015 + 2016 first rounders for Treloar.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Toga on October 15, 2015, 07:26:37 PM
Quote from: meow meow on October 15, 2015, 07:20:36 PM
Other way around. Luke Ball is a prime example. 500K on his head and went at pick 30 in the national draft.

Why did Kurt Tippett go PSD then? I'm confused haha.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Bill Manspeaker on October 15, 2015, 07:32:32 PM
(http://cdndata.bigfooty.com/2015/10/184137_8e723416a2d4f2caf512be2e26320632.jpg)
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: meow meow on October 15, 2015, 07:52:29 PM
Quote from: Toga on October 15, 2015, 07:26:37 PM
Quote from: meow meow on October 15, 2015, 07:20:36 PM
Other way around. Luke Ball is a prime example. 500K on his head and went at pick 30 in the national draft.

Why did Kurt Tippett go PSD then? I'm confused haha.

Might be both?
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Toga on October 15, 2015, 08:05:51 PM
Quote from: meow meow on October 15, 2015, 07:52:29 PM
Quote from: Toga on October 15, 2015, 07:26:37 PM
Quote from: meow meow on October 15, 2015, 07:20:36 PM
Other way around. Luke Ball is a prime example. 500K on his head and went at pick 30 in the national draft.

Why did Kurt Tippett go PSD then? I'm confused haha.

Might be both?

Maybe, it's all a bit confusing haha. My understanding of it though was that under PSD players can nominate their desired salary/contract and that you aren't able to do that under the national draft. Good chance I'm wrong though :P
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: T Dog on October 15, 2015, 08:08:26 PM
Is Carlisle really that good? A lot of angst for an ordinary player IMO   8)
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: PowerBug on October 15, 2015, 08:13:08 PM
Can anyone seriously be angry at Hawthorn for what they are doing? There is HISTORY on the line here. Like it or not they have won 3 in a row, and if they manage to take 4 in a row they will probably go down as the greatest EVER. I don't reckon their fans will care for anything else right now, reigning premiers 3 times over, may as well go for broke and try to stay there as long as possible.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Money Shot on October 15, 2015, 08:19:31 PM
Quote from: PowerBug on October 15, 2015, 08:13:08 PM
Can anyone seriously be angry at Hawthorn for what they are doing? There is HISTORY on the line here. Like it or not they have won 3 in a row, and if they manage to take 4 in a row they will probably go down as the greatest EVER. I don't reckon their fans will care for anything else right now, reigning premiers 3 times over, may as well go for broke and try to stay there as long as possible.
Exactly! And with in the next 2-3 years Lewis, Hodge and Mitchell will retire and that will be a big hole to fix!
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: RaisyDaisy on October 15, 2015, 09:03:32 PM
Who knows, they might even do a Geelong and refuse to bottom out

Hodge, Gibbo and Mitchell could play for another couple of years easily but I'm sure how the team finishes next year will determine if they go beyond 2016. Physically it wouldn't be a problem
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Mat0369 on October 15, 2015, 09:21:19 PM
Quote from: _wato on October 15, 2015, 06:59:27 PM
If Brisbane did send him to the draft, surely Carlron would not get Aish at pick 1? That would be one of the worst draft decisions ever, when they've just lost Henderson, Casboult looks likely to go and they're only other talls are Watson, Jamison, Jones and Walker (from Geelong)
The biggest thing though is that Weitering looks like an absolute jet (dont think I've ever seen a better player at draft age) and is one of the very first times that a key defender is going to go at #1, or am I completely wrong??

Replace Watson and Walker with Rowe, Jaksch and Jayden Foster since Watson was delisted and Walker is not and won't be a Carlton player.

And then the 2nd bit was explained with it being the preseason draft

Quote from: Ricochet on October 15, 2015, 07:12:58 PM
Apparently Brisbane have opened talks with Collingwood on James Aish today.

and

The Age saying Geelong will trade Josh Walker and Jarrad Jansen to Brisbane for Lions 3rd Round pick in 2016.

This is good news for us, it means we don't bring in another spud and it would look like Levi's off the table.

Quote from: Toga on October 15, 2015, 08:05:51 PM
Maybe, it's all a bit confusing haha. My understanding of it though was that under PSD players can nominate their desired salary/contract and that you aren't able to do that under the national draft. Good chance I'm wrong though :P

Nah you're right, it's generally the pre-season draft they put bounties on their heads, Ball threatened to retire if he got picked up by anyone else. I think there were eligibility issues with Ball which is why he had to go in the NAT or Collingwood had to take him in the NAT for total pick in the draft requirements since they gave up their first for Jolly.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: kilbluff1985 on October 15, 2015, 10:06:18 PM
Essendon talking to Giants to consider swapping picks 23 & 25 for Giants pick 8(they may need our picks to get an academy player). Would be amazing to have pick 4, 5 and 8
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: _wato on October 15, 2015, 10:13:56 PM
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on October 15, 2015, 10:06:18 PM
Essendon talking to Giants to consider swapping picks 23 & 25 for Giants pick 8(they may need our picks to get an academy player). Would be amazing to have pick 4, 5 and 8

Only be amazing if the draft choices they make are good hahahah, and every chance that the picks they have will slide due to bidding and then the players they get to choose from aren't actually the top end sheer talent
 
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: kilbluff1985 on October 15, 2015, 10:21:09 PM
Quote from: _wato on October 15, 2015, 10:13:56 PM
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on October 15, 2015, 10:06:18 PM
Essendon talking to Giants to consider swapping picks 23 & 25 for Giants pick 8(they may need our picks to get an academy player). Would be amazing to have pick 4, 5 and 8

Only be amazing if the draft choices they make are good hahahah, and every chance that the picks they have will slide due to bidding and then the players they get to choose from aren't actually the top end sheer talent


is that how drafting works? who knew!?
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: TomK on October 15, 2015, 10:26:18 PM
Maybe Adelaide can get involved and offer 13 + 28 for 8 + Hampton.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Grazz on October 15, 2015, 10:27:44 PM
Quote from: PowerBug on October 15, 2015, 08:13:08 PM
Can anyone seriously be angry at Hawthorn for what they are doing? There is HISTORY on the line here. Like it or not they have won 3 in a row, and if they manage to take 4 in a row they will probably go down as the greatest EVER. I don't reckon their fans will care for anything else right now, reigning premiers 3 times over, may as well go for broke and try to stay there as long as possible.

Can't be angry at the Hawks, their playing within the rules and doing it well.
It's free agency thats flowered. :P
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: SydneyRox on October 15, 2015, 10:40:49 PM
Quote from: Grazz on October 15, 2015, 10:27:44 PM
Quote from: PowerBug on October 15, 2015, 08:13:08 PM
Can anyone seriously be angry at Hawthorn for what they are doing? There is HISTORY on the line here. Like it or not they have won 3 in a row, and if they manage to take 4 in a row they will probably go down as the greatest EVER. I don't reckon their fans will care for anything else right now, reigning premiers 3 times over, may as well go for broke and try to stay there as long as possible.

Can't be angry at the Hawks, their playing within the rules and doing it well.
It's free agency thats flowered. :P

Swans played within the rules, but everyone hated them for it??

Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Grazz on October 15, 2015, 10:44:16 PM
Quote from: SydneyRox on October 15, 2015, 10:40:49 PM
Quote from: Grazz on October 15, 2015, 10:27:44 PM
Quote from: PowerBug on October 15, 2015, 08:13:08 PM
Can anyone seriously be angry at Hawthorn for what they are doing? There is HISTORY on the line here. Like it or not they have won 3 in a row, and if they manage to take 4 in a row they will probably go down as the greatest EVER. I don't reckon their fans will care for anything else right now, reigning premiers 3 times over, may as well go for broke and try to stay there as long as possible.

Can't be angry at the Hawks, their playing within the rules and doing it well.
It's free agency thats flowered. :P

Swans played within the rules, but everyone hated them for it??

Swans are ok in my book to. The AFL on the other hand can get flowered, treated the Swans very badly the vindictive twats.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: SydneyRox on October 15, 2015, 10:47:33 PM
Quote from: Grazz on October 15, 2015, 10:44:16 PM
Quote from: SydneyRox on October 15, 2015, 10:40:49 PM
Quote from: Grazz on October 15, 2015, 10:27:44 PM
Quote from: PowerBug on October 15, 2015, 08:13:08 PM
Can anyone seriously be angry at Hawthorn for what they are doing? There is HISTORY on the line here. Like it or not they have won 3 in a row, and if they manage to take 4 in a row they will probably go down as the greatest EVER. I don't reckon their fans will care for anything else right now, reigning premiers 3 times over, may as well go for broke and try to stay there as long as possible.

Can't be angry at the Hawks, their playing within the rules and doing it well.
It's free agency thats flowered. :P

Swans played within the rules, but everyone hated them for it??

Swans are ok in my book to. The AFL on the other hand can get flowered, treated the Swans very badly the vindictive twats.

Exactly, but its the same thing, hawks are simply doing it better than everyone else.

Players want to win a flag so they will be willing to go there on less money i would bet

Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Grazz on October 15, 2015, 10:50:02 PM
It's the system that is broken, clubs and players are just looking after themselves the best they know how within the system.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Mr.Craig on October 15, 2015, 10:51:18 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on October 15, 2015, 05:35:14 PM
Not huge news, but Hawthorn are thinking about picking up delisted Demon Jack Fitzpatrick in the draft

Where'd ya hear that? I didn't mind Fitzy.

Quote from: meow meow on October 15, 2015, 06:29:52 PM
Hawks opened up salary cap space with Suckling, Hale and Lake moving on. They are trading Jed Anderson and a first round pick. Not sure how that is cheating. Standard salary cap and list management I'd say.

And anyone questioning equalisation should looks at the rules and tell me how they relate to two teams making a trade.

Here they are, go nuts - http://www.afl.com.au/news/2014-06-04/equalisation-changes-explained
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: fanTCfool on October 15, 2015, 10:51:32 PM
Something needs to change, good players from bottom clubs will just walk out for success, or the club will trade them for something that suits them, but effectively prevents the rest of the competition from being contenders.

eg. Carlisle,
Bombers are happy because they get some decent picks.
Hawks are happy because they poach yet another player.
How can anyone overtake them if they top up on one or two players each way in such a fashion?

Whether it be via a trade or free-agency, they suck in clubs to trade with them for picks, or players to achieve a flag.
Why wouldn't you nominate the Hawks if you are a Best 22 free-agent?

I suppose I cannot be angry at the Hawks, they are just playing the game, but surely clubs can recognise that they are just shutting themselves and everyone else out of being a contender anytime soon by trading with the Hawks?

Of course you want to do what is best for your club, but maybe that would mean neglecting the Hawks to benefit your club in a few years time, and the league overall.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: RaisyDaisy on October 15, 2015, 10:59:25 PM
Quote from: Mr.Craig on October 15, 2015, 10:51:18 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on October 15, 2015, 05:35:14 PM
Not huge news, but Hawthorn are thinking about picking up delisted Demon Jack Fitzpatrick in the draft

Where'd ya hear that? I didn't mind Fitzy.

http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/afl-trades-2015-jack-fitzpatrick-could-join-hawthorn-as-a-delisted-free-agent/story-fnp04d70-1227570068959

Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: iZander on October 15, 2015, 11:00:39 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on October 15, 2015, 10:59:25 PM
Quote from: Mr.Craig on October 15, 2015, 10:51:18 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on October 15, 2015, 05:35:14 PM
Not huge news, but Hawthorn are thinking about picking up delisted Demon Jack Fitzpatrick in the draft

Where'd ya hear that? I didn't mind Fitzy.

http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/afl-trades-2015-jack-fitzpatrick-could-join-hawthorn-as-a-delisted-free-agent/story-fnp04d70-1227570068959
Hahaha but that tunnel ball though......ruined his career at melbourne!
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Mr.Craig on October 15, 2015, 11:06:49 PM
Trades are trades, it's up to the clubs to get the best deal they can. Sometimes players and their managers pull strings, that's just the way things seem to be now.

As for Free Agency - Hawthorn has lost Tom Murphy, Clinton Young, Lance Franklin, Xavier Ellis and Matt Suckling in the space of four trade periods. Meanwhile we've had the audacity to take Frawley and a discarded Jonathon Simpkin. It's hardly the reason for their success.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Mr.Craig on October 15, 2015, 11:15:41 PM
If Graham Wright can even get Dodoro to do a deal then that's the reason for the success right there.

Dude must be a goddam hypnotist.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: kilbluff1985 on October 15, 2015, 11:21:09 PM
Quote from: Mr.Craig on October 15, 2015, 11:06:49 PM
Trades are trades, it's up to the clubs to get the best deal they can. Sometimes players and their managers pull strings, that's just the way things seem to be now.

As for Free Agency - Hawthorn has lost Tom Murphy, Clinton Young, Lance Franklin, Xavier Ellis and Matt Suckling in the space of four trade periods. Meanwhile we've had the audacity to take Frawley and a discarded Jonathon Simpkin. It's hardly the reason for their success.

wasnt Brian Lake and Ben McEvoy 2 more?
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: iZander on October 15, 2015, 11:22:58 PM
Quote from: Mr.Craig on October 15, 2015, 11:06:49 PM
Trades are trades, it's up to the clubs to get the best deal they can. Sometimes players and their managers pull strings, that's just the way things seem to be now.

As for Free Agency - Hawthorn has lost Tom Murphy, Clinton Young, Lance Franklin, Xavier Ellis and Matt Suckling in the space of four trade periods. Meanwhile we've had the audacity to take Frawley and a discarded Jonathon Simpkin. It's hardly the reason for their success.
I feel like losing Buddy was a good thing for them, allowed the likes of gunston and breust to come through and opened up some salary cap space, which probably allowed them to get Lake and/or Frawley
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: nrich102 on October 15, 2015, 11:23:56 PM
Honestly you're probably lucky to have lost Murphy and Young lol
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: iZander on October 15, 2015, 11:24:44 PM
Quote from: nrich102 on October 15, 2015, 11:23:56 PM
Honestly you're probably lucky to have lost Murphy and Young lol
lol, was thinking that to...and suckling leaving has hardly had an effect yet
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Rusty00 on October 15, 2015, 11:27:28 PM
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on October 15, 2015, 11:21:09 PM
Quote from: Mr.Craig on October 15, 2015, 11:06:49 PM
Trades are trades, it's up to the clubs to get the best deal they can. Sometimes players and their managers pull strings, that's just the way things seem to be now.

As for Free Agency - Hawthorn has lost Tom Murphy, Clinton Young, Lance Franklin, Xavier Ellis and Matt Suckling in the space of four trade periods. Meanwhile we've had the audacity to take Frawley and a discarded Jonathon Simpkin. It's hardly the reason for their success.

wasnt Brian Lake and Ben McEvoy 2 more?
They were traded in.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Mr.Craig on October 15, 2015, 11:27:57 PM
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on October 15, 2015, 11:21:09 PM
Quote from: Mr.Craig on October 15, 2015, 11:06:49 PM
Trades are trades, it's up to the clubs to get the best deal they can. Sometimes players and their managers pull strings, that's just the way things seem to be now.

As for Free Agency - Hawthorn has lost Tom Murphy, Clinton Young, Lance Franklin, Xavier Ellis and Matt Suckling in the space of four trade periods. Meanwhile we've had the audacity to take Frawley and a discarded Jonathon Simpkin. It's hardly the reason for their success.

wasnt Brian Lake and Ben McEvoy 2 more?

Brian Lake + Pick 27 traded for Picks 21 and 43.

McEvoy + Picks 24 and 59 traded for Savage and Picks 18 and 19.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Ricochet on October 16, 2015, 12:04:46 AM
Quote from: fanTCfool on October 15, 2015, 10:51:32 PM
Something needs to change, good players from bottom clubs will just walk out for success, or the club will trade them for something that suits them, but effectively prevents the rest of the competition from being contenders.
Like Daisy's move to Carlton? ;)
Or Mumfords to GWS?
GAJ to GC
Malceski to GC
Beams/Christensen down to Brissie
Dawes down to Melb
Savage to Saints

It's not as bad as everyone says in regrads to trades/FA.

There are plenty of players going to lesser clubs. It's just people only remember blokes that leave to go to better clubs


90% of the time it comes down to $$$
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: powersuperkents on October 16, 2015, 12:17:07 AM
@Demons supporters

I don't think Toumpas will make his way to Port. I've looked into it and;

1) Toumpas has not requested a trade home to Adelaide (they are merely rumours); &
2) I think with all the effort going into the Dixon trade there will be nothing left for Melbourne to think a Toumpas trade is worthwhile and the Dixon trade will leave little time for it to get done (Chris Davies, head of recruiting at Port, has stated the club has not even contacted the Demons or Toumpas regarding the trade so it seems to just be rumours - he also said they are not focusing on anyone until Dixon is locked in).

I think at the most it will be like a Ryder over Gorringe arrangement, but I doubt it will get to that stage because the rumours are completely unwarranted as Toumpas has not even requested a trade...

Would have liked to see him return to Adelaide, but the two elements of a trade in these circumstances are missing (i.e. a request by the player - Toumpas seems happy at the Dees - and communication between the two clubs)

I think he will be a Demon next year
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: _wato on October 16, 2015, 12:21:21 AM
$$ by going to a lesser club, success by going to a better club.

Every player is different on what they evaluate as being the most important.

But regardless, I also see no fault in the free agency/trades debacle.

Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Mat0369 on October 16, 2015, 01:00:37 AM
Quote from: Big  Mac on October 15, 2015, 05:04:01 PM
Not sure if you guys mentioned it but the Melksham trade is official

Poor Melbourne.

This trade also gives us a bit of vindication with our asking price of Yaz. There is no way that spud is a better player then Yaz. Looking at it, he isn't better than Bell either and there will only be a couple spots difference on the pick if it goes through for a 2nd rounder.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: kilbluff1985 on October 16, 2015, 01:18:26 AM
Calling Melksham a spud is exaggerating he can play is just very inconsistent
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Mat0369 on October 16, 2015, 01:36:33 AM
No, he's a spud.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: AaronKirk on October 16, 2015, 01:39:41 AM
Quote from: Mat0369 on October 16, 2015, 01:36:33 AM
No, he's a spud.

Sorry KB he is a spud.

We were extremely lucky to get pick 25 for him.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Big Mac on October 16, 2015, 01:50:35 AM
Quote from: Mat0369 on October 16, 2015, 01:00:37 AM
Quote from: Big  Mac on October 15, 2015, 05:04:01 PM
Not sure if you guys mentioned it but the Melksham trade is official

Poor Melbourne.

This trade also gives us a bit of vindication with our asking price of Yaz. There is no way that spud is a better player then Yaz. Looking at it, he isn't better than Bell either and there will only be a couple spots difference on the pick if it goes through for a 2nd rounder.

It really does feel like we're getting a showerty deal, and if the rumoured salary is true then that just makes the deal more ridiculous

You kind of have to back in the footy department though after their success in the past couple seasons. They know what they're doing, even if I can't really see it in this case
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: AaronKirk on October 16, 2015, 02:04:39 AM
Quote from: Big  Mac on October 16, 2015, 01:50:35 AM
Quote from: Mat0369 on October 16, 2015, 01:00:37 AM
Quote from: Big  Mac on October 15, 2015, 05:04:01 PM
Not sure if you guys mentioned it but the Melksham trade is official

Poor Melbourne.

This trade also gives us a bit of vindication with our asking price of Yaz. There is no way that spud is a better player then Yaz. Looking at it, he isn't better than Bell either and there will only be a couple spots difference on the pick if it goes through for a 2nd rounder.

It really does feel like we're getting a showerty deal, and if the rumoured salary is true then that just makes the deal more ridiculous

You kind of have to back in the footy department though after their success in the past couple seasons. They know what they're doing, even if I can't really see it in this case

Apparently Melksham and Goodwin have a good relationship from Goodwin's time at the dons.

Hopefully Goodwin can get the best out of him but you paid massive overs for him. A 4 year deal? why?
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: RaisyDaisy on October 16, 2015, 08:55:36 AM
Was anybody else even interested in Melkshem?

Feel like Dees could have got him so much cheaper
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: nrich102 on October 16, 2015, 09:08:52 AM
Wasn't Dodoro asking for a first round pick at one stage? Lol
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Money Shot on October 16, 2015, 09:16:30 AM
Quote from: nrich102 on October 16, 2015, 09:08:52 AM
Wasn't Dodoro asking for a first round pick at one stage? Lol
Knowing Dodoro he was probably asking for first round pick and Hogan :P
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Purple 77 on October 16, 2015, 10:07:23 AM
Quote from: nrich102 on October 16, 2015, 09:08:52 AM
Wasn't Dodoro asking for a first round pick at one stage? Lol

Pick 6 + Howe was the first offer I heard  ::) probably wasn't true.



Quote from: powersuperkents on October 16, 2015, 12:17:07 AM
@Demons supporters

I don't think Toumpas will make his way to Port. I've looked into it and;

1) Toumpas has not requested a trade home to Adelaide (they are merely rumours); &
2) I think with all the effort going into the Dixon trade there will be nothing left for Melbourne to think a Toumpas trade is worthwhile and the Dixon trade will leave little time for it to get done (Chris Davies, head of recruiting at Port, has stated the club has not even contacted the Demons or Toumpas regarding the trade so it seems to just be rumours - he also said they are not focusing on anyone until Dixon is locked in).

I think at the most it will be like a Ryder over Gorringe arrangement, but I doubt it will get to that stage because the rumours are completely unwarranted as Toumpas has not even requested a trade...

Would have liked to see him return to Adelaide, but the two elements of a trade in these circumstances are missing (i.e. a request by the player - Toumpas seems happy at the Dees - and communication between the two clubs)

I think he will be a Demon next year


I heard that he did want to stay at Melbourne... and Goodwin wanted to persist, but Roos & McCartney put the line through him.

But this is unsettling news. I already had him in Port colours in my head  :-\
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Ringo on October 16, 2015, 10:35:10 AM
Quote from: Grazz on October 15, 2015, 10:50:02 PM
It's the system that is broken, clubs and players are just looking after themselves the best they know how within the system.
Agree with this 100%. Clubs are playing within the rules it is just some are doing it better than others.  The system needs to be looked at. Free agency may as well be abolished when 20 year olds can request a trade and nominate a club of choice. With all States now having 2 or more teams maybe the change needs to be that the player nominates the city and the club negotiates a trade with teams based in those cities. Players association will not like it though.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Rusty00 on October 16, 2015, 10:40:12 AM
Quote from: Ringo on October 16, 2015, 10:35:10 AM
Quote from: Grazz on October 15, 2015, 10:50:02 PM
It's the system that is broken, clubs and players are just looking after themselves the best they know how within the system.
Agree with this 100%. Clubs are playing within the rules it is just some are doing it better than others.  The system needs to be looked at. Free agency may as well be abolished when 20 year olds can request a trade and nominate a club of choice. With all States now having 2 or more teams maybe the change needs to be that the player nominates the city and the club negotiates a trade with teams based in those cities. Players association will not like it though.
And there in lies the issue.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Pkbaldy on October 16, 2015, 10:44:43 AM
Any news where Michael Talia could go?

If the Carlisle trade goes to shower, could it be a chance Saints could get him for their 2nd or 3rd rounder?
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: elephants on October 16, 2015, 10:49:40 AM
WCE interested in Jon Giles.

I love this, should be cheap and the bloke can play when given the chance! Great Sinkers replacement.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: iZander on October 16, 2015, 10:57:43 AM
Quote from: Pkbaldy on October 16, 2015, 10:44:43 AM
Any news where Michael Talia could go?

If the Carlisle trade goes to shower, could it be a chance Saints could get him for their 2nd or 3rd rounder?
No, not a chance
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: plumdog millionaire on October 16, 2015, 10:58:09 AM
Quote from: Ringo on October 16, 2015, 10:35:10 AM
Quote from: Grazz on October 15, 2015, 10:50:02 PM
It's the system that is broken, clubs and players are just looking after themselves the best they know how within the system.
Agree with this 100%. Clubs are playing within the rules it is just some are doing it better than others.  The system needs to be looked at. Free agency may as well be abolished when 20 year olds can request a trade and nominate a club of choice. With all States now having 2 or more teams maybe the change needs to be that the player nominates the city and the club negotiates a trade with teams based in those cities. Players association will not like it though.
I might be missing something but why don't they make it like US sports and make it that once a player gets drafted they're locked in for a minimum 2 year deal, and like in the NBA, the team has the option to extend it two years after it's done? For the top 1-2 rounds of the draft at least
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Pkbaldy on October 16, 2015, 11:00:05 AM
Quote from: iZander on October 16, 2015, 10:57:43 AM
Quote from: Pkbaldy on October 16, 2015, 10:44:43 AM
Any news where Michael Talia could go?

If the Carlisle trade goes to shower, could it be a chance Saints could get him for their 2nd or 3rd rounder?
No, not a chance

And where will he be going?
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: iZander on October 16, 2015, 11:02:40 AM
Quote from: Pkbaldy on October 16, 2015, 11:00:05 AM
Quote from: iZander on October 16, 2015, 10:57:43 AM
Quote from: Pkbaldy on October 16, 2015, 10:44:43 AM
Any news where Michael Talia could go?

If the Carlisle trade goes to shower, could it be a chance Saints could get him for their 2nd or 3rd rounder?
No, not a chance

And where will he be going?
Bombers just wouldnt accept a second or third rounder for him, in the current situation its more likely saints will crack and give up pick 5
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Pkbaldy on October 16, 2015, 11:07:27 AM
Quote from: iZander on October 16, 2015, 11:02:40 AM
Quote from: Pkbaldy on October 16, 2015, 11:00:05 AM
Quote from: iZander on October 16, 2015, 10:57:43 AM
Quote from: Pkbaldy on October 16, 2015, 10:44:43 AM
Any news where Michael Talia could go?

If the Carlisle trade goes to shower, could it be a chance Saints could get him for their 2nd or 3rd rounder?
No, not a chance

And where will he be going?
Bombers just wouldnt accept a second or third rounder for him, in the current situation its more likely saints will crack and give up pick 5

I was talking about Talia man.... If that trade doesn't work, could we chance M.Talia (WB).
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: iZander on October 16, 2015, 11:08:53 AM
Quote from: Pkbaldy on October 16, 2015, 11:07:27 AM
Quote from: iZander on October 16, 2015, 11:02:40 AM
Quote from: Pkbaldy on October 16, 2015, 11:00:05 AM
Quote from: iZander on October 16, 2015, 10:57:43 AM
Quote from: Pkbaldy on October 16, 2015, 10:44:43 AM
Any news where Michael Talia could go?

If the Carlisle trade goes to shower, could it be a chance Saints could get him for their 2nd or 3rd rounder?
No, not a chance

And where will he be going?
Bombers just wouldnt accept a second or third rounder for him, in the current situation its more likely saints will crack and give up pick 5

I was talking about Talia man.... If that trade doesn't work, could we chance M.Talia (WB).
ooooh, sorry misread that :P
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Pkbaldy on October 16, 2015, 11:15:24 AM
Quote from: iZander on October 16, 2015, 11:08:53 AM
Quote from: Pkbaldy on October 16, 2015, 11:07:27 AM
Quote from: iZander on October 16, 2015, 11:02:40 AM
Quote from: Pkbaldy on October 16, 2015, 11:00:05 AM
Quote from: iZander on October 16, 2015, 10:57:43 AM
Quote from: Pkbaldy on October 16, 2015, 10:44:43 AM
Any news where Michael Talia could go?

If the Carlisle trade goes to shower, could it be a chance Saints could get him for their 2nd or 3rd rounder?
No, not a chance

And where will he be going?
Bombers just wouldnt accept a second or third rounder for him, in the current situation its more likely saints will crack and give up pick 5

I was talking about Talia man.... If that trade doesn't work, could we chance M.Talia (WB).
ooooh, sorry misread that :P

All good man. I could see him as a decent substitute for Carlisle. No idea why Kangas would pay their first rounder for Jed Anderson, just so Hawks can get Carlisle... Only helping out their biggest threat.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Jay on October 16, 2015, 11:17:06 AM
Pretty funny that Melbourne gave up pick 25, for the right to overpay Melksham..  :-X
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: iZander on October 16, 2015, 11:18:47 AM
Quote from: Pkbaldy on October 16, 2015, 11:15:24 AM
Quote from: iZander on October 16, 2015, 11:08:53 AM
Quote from: Pkbaldy on October 16, 2015, 11:07:27 AM
Quote from: iZander on October 16, 2015, 11:02:40 AM
Quote from: Pkbaldy on October 16, 2015, 11:00:05 AM
Quote from: iZander on October 16, 2015, 10:57:43 AM
Quote from: Pkbaldy on October 16, 2015, 10:44:43 AM
Any news where Michael Talia could go?

If the Carlisle trade goes to shower, could it be a chance Saints could get him for their 2nd or 3rd rounder?
No, not a chance

And where will he be going?
Bombers just wouldnt accept a second or third rounder for him, in the current situation its more likely saints will crack and give up pick 5

I was talking about Talia man.... If that trade doesn't work, could we chance M.Talia (WB).
ooooh, sorry misread that :P

All good man. I could see him as a decent substitute for Carlisle. No idea why Kangas would pay their first rounder for Jed Anderson, just so Hawks can get Carlisle... Only helping out their biggest threat.
yeah pretty much, id be happy with that deal but i don't want carlisle at hawks lol
Yeah i reckon Talia would be a decent get for the saints :P
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Pkbaldy on October 16, 2015, 11:23:54 AM
If we were desperate for Carlisle we could go;

Pick 5 for Carlisle and 25 (Melk Pick).

Use 2nd Rounder of 2016 for Freeman

Then use 24 and 25 (1541 Points) to trade to Sydney for Pick 14 (1161 Points) so they could get Mills with that a lot more ease.

Pick up a best available in the draft with 14 (Tucker, Ah Chee, Clarke, Oliver). And use the rest of the picks to get Rice (3rd + 4th) and Sinclair (Upgrade)
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: meow meow on October 16, 2015, 11:29:13 AM
Quote from: Pkbaldy on October 16, 2015, 10:44:43 AM
Any news where Michael Talia could go?

If the Carlisle trade goes to shower, could it be a chance Saints could get him for their 2nd or 3rd rounder?

Sydney and Essendon have been the clubs most interested.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Pkbaldy on October 16, 2015, 11:33:32 AM
Quote from: meow meow on October 16, 2015, 11:29:13 AM
Quote from: Pkbaldy on October 16, 2015, 10:44:43 AM
Any news where Michael Talia could go?

If the Carlisle trade goes to shower, could it be a chance Saints could get him for their 2nd or 3rd rounder?

Sydney and Essendon have been the clubs most interested.

Ahhh okay. I thought Sydney said they didn't want him haha.

Well with Carlisle going out, he'd be a decent replacement! Will probably get him for either of those 2nd rounders. Essentially making it Melksham for Talia. Big win.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: PowerBug on October 16, 2015, 11:41:40 AM
Quote from: elephants on October 16, 2015, 10:49:40 AM
WCE interested in Jon Giles.

I love this, should be cheap and the bloke can play when given the chance! Great Sinkers replacement.
He wants to go to a 4th club I think he's got an attitude problem tbh. If he's gone to three clubs to be the No. 1 ruck then at at two of them anyway he's been in the reserves and they've gone out next off-season to get another ruck. (They got Giles before Mumford came right?)

Would not go near him.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: RaisyDaisy on October 16, 2015, 11:47:12 AM
Quote from: PowerBug on October 16, 2015, 11:41:40 AM
Quote from: elephants on October 16, 2015, 10:49:40 AM
WCE interested in Jon Giles.

I love this, should be cheap and the bloke can play when given the chance! Great Sinkers replacement.
He wants to go to a 4th club I think he's got an attitude problem tbh. If he's gone to three clubs to be the No. 1 ruck then at at two of them anyway he's been in the reserves and they've gone out next off-season to get another ruck. (They got Giles before Mumford came right?)

Would not go near him.

Agree. I don't want him at all

I'm not sure if it's attitude or talent or a combination of both, but if he thinks that he can just bounce from club to club if he isn't getting a game in the seniors then he probably needs to check his ego and realize that he is not as good as he thinks he is
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Ricochet on October 16, 2015, 12:02:28 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on October 16, 2015, 11:47:12 AM
Quote from: PowerBug on October 16, 2015, 11:41:40 AM
Quote from: elephants on October 16, 2015, 10:49:40 AM
WCE interested in Jon Giles.

I love this, should be cheap and the bloke can play when given the chance! Great Sinkers replacement.
He wants to go to a 4th club I think he's got an attitude problem tbh. If he's gone to three clubs to be the No. 1 ruck then at at two of them anyway he's been in the reserves and they've gone out next off-season to get another ruck. (They got Giles before Mumford came right?)

Would not go near him.

Agree. I don't want him at all

I'm not sure if it's attitude or talent or a combination of both, but if he thinks that he can just bounce from club to club if he isn't getting a game in the seniors then he probably needs to check his ego and realize that he is not as good as he thinks he is
Umm if clubs keep wanting him then he's obviously rated.... If you have clubs keen on you, you don't just go a flower it i'll go play VFL

Maybe he realised he made a massive mistake with Essendon? and then the grand finalist show interest in him... I know what I'd be doing regardless of how many clubs I've been at
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Ricochet on October 16, 2015, 12:03:37 PM
Deal done.

Roos get Anderson, picks 38 & 40.
Hawks get picks 15 & 54.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Pkbaldy on October 16, 2015, 12:04:58 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on October 16, 2015, 12:03:37 PM
Deal done.

Roos get Anderson, picks 38 & 40.
Hawks get picks 15 & 54.

flower! Ameet you flowerwit do something NOW! Before it's too late.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Barra13 on October 16, 2015, 12:16:07 PM
Quote from: AaronKirk on October 16, 2015, 01:39:41 AM
Quote from: Mat0369 on October 16, 2015, 01:36:33 AM
No, he's a spud.

Sorry KB he is a spud.

We were extremely lucky to get pick 25 for him.

Please! Stahp! No more!

:'(
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Pkbaldy on October 16, 2015, 12:22:06 PM
Quote from: Barra13 on October 16, 2015, 12:16:07 PM
Quote from: AaronKirk on October 16, 2015, 01:39:41 AM
Quote from: Mat0369 on October 16, 2015, 01:36:33 AM
No, he's a spud.

Sorry KB he is a spud.

We were extremely lucky to get pick 25 for him.

Please! Stahp! No more!

:'(

At least he's an upgrade on Toumpas :P
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Ricochet on October 16, 2015, 12:24:46 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on October 16, 2015, 12:02:28 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on October 16, 2015, 11:47:12 AM
Quote from: PowerBug on October 16, 2015, 11:41:40 AM
Quote from: elephants on October 16, 2015, 10:49:40 AM
WCE interested in Jon Giles.

I love this, should be cheap and the bloke can play when given the chance! Great Sinkers replacement.
He wants to go to a 4th club I think he's got an attitude problem tbh. If he's gone to three clubs to be the No. 1 ruck then at at two of them anyway he's been in the reserves and they've gone out next off-season to get another ruck. (They got Giles before Mumford came right?)

Would not go near him.

Agree. I don't want him at all

I'm not sure if it's attitude or talent or a combination of both, but if he thinks that he can just bounce from club to club if he isn't getting a game in the seniors then he probably needs to check his ego and realize that he is not as good as he thinks he is
Umm if clubs keep wanting him then he's obviously rated.... If you have clubs keen on you, you don't just go a flower it i'll go play VFL

Maybe he realised he made a massive mistake with Essendon? and then the grand finalist show interest in him... I know what I'd be doing regardless of how many clubs I've been at
Plus, you just lost your #2 ruck. You can't go into next year playing NicNat and Lycett and hope neither gets injured all year.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: elephants on October 16, 2015, 12:57:16 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on October 16, 2015, 12:24:46 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on October 16, 2015, 12:02:28 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on October 16, 2015, 11:47:12 AM
Quote from: PowerBug on October 16, 2015, 11:41:40 AM
Quote from: elephants on October 16, 2015, 10:49:40 AM
WCE interested in Jon Giles.

I love this, should be cheap and the bloke can play when given the chance! Great Sinkers replacement.
He wants to go to a 4th club I think he's got an attitude problem tbh. If he's gone to three clubs to be the No. 1 ruck then at at two of them anyway he's been in the reserves and they've gone out next off-season to get another ruck. (They got Giles before Mumford came right?)

Would not go near him.

Agree. I don't want him at all

I'm not sure if it's attitude or talent or a combination of both, but if he thinks that he can just bounce from club to club if he isn't getting a game in the seniors then he probably needs to check his ego and realize that he is not as good as he thinks he is
Umm if clubs keep wanting him then he's obviously rated.... If you have clubs keen on you, you don't just go a flower it i'll go play VFL

Maybe he realised he made a massive mistake with Essendon? and then the grand finalist show interest in him... I know what I'd be doing regardless of how many clubs I've been at
Plus, you just lost your #2 ruck. You can't go into next year playing NicNat and Lycett and hope neither gets injured all year.

Yeah sorry RD but I could not disagree more.

Giles is the perfect pick-up for us. He will know that he isn't #1 ruck at the Eagles and he'll be vying with Lycett for the #2 spot. If we can get Giles for a third rounder it would be amazing. Even a second I'd take.

Giles roughly = Sinclair

Which leaves Jetta for a third rounder!
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Ricochet on October 16, 2015, 01:06:15 PM
Hampton deal done

QuoteGWS Giants trade Curtly Hampton to Adelaide Crows for its 2016 Round 2 Selection.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: RaisyDaisy on October 16, 2015, 01:07:23 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on October 16, 2015, 12:02:28 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on October 16, 2015, 11:47:12 AM
Quote from: PowerBug on October 16, 2015, 11:41:40 AM
Quote from: elephants on October 16, 2015, 10:49:40 AM
WCE interested in Jon Giles.

I love this, should be cheap and the bloke can play when given the chance! Great Sinkers replacement.
He wants to go to a 4th club I think he's got an attitude problem tbh. If he's gone to three clubs to be the No. 1 ruck then at at two of them anyway he's been in the reserves and they've gone out next off-season to get another ruck. (They got Giles before Mumford came right?)

Would not go near him.

Agree. I don't want him at all

I'm not sure if it's attitude or talent or a combination of both, but if he thinks that he can just bounce from club to club if he isn't getting a game in the seniors then he probably needs to check his ego and realize that he is not as good as he thinks he is
Umm if clubs keep wanting him then he's obviously rated.... If you have clubs keen on you, you don't just go a flower it i'll go play VFL

Maybe he realised he made a massive mistake with Essendon? and then the grand finalist show interest in him... I know what I'd be doing regardless of how many clubs I've been at

Good Luck getting an AFL game at West Coast. If he didn't with Essendon, then how does he think he can at WCE?

Lycett does very well when sole ruck if NN is out, and even guys like McInness give us better forward service than Giles would
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: RaisyDaisy on October 16, 2015, 01:11:00 PM
Quote from: elephants on October 16, 2015, 12:57:16 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on October 16, 2015, 12:24:46 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on October 16, 2015, 12:02:28 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on October 16, 2015, 11:47:12 AM
Quote from: PowerBug on October 16, 2015, 11:41:40 AM
Quote from: elephants on October 16, 2015, 10:49:40 AM
WCE interested in Jon Giles.

I love this, should be cheap and the bloke can play when given the chance! Great Sinkers replacement.
He wants to go to a 4th club I think he's got an attitude problem tbh. If he's gone to three clubs to be the No. 1 ruck then at at two of them anyway he's been in the reserves and they've gone out next off-season to get another ruck. (They got Giles before Mumford came right?)

Would not go near him.

Agree. I don't want him at all

I'm not sure if it's attitude or talent or a combination of both, but if he thinks that he can just bounce from club to club if he isn't getting a game in the seniors then he probably needs to check his ego and realize that he is not as good as he thinks he is
Umm if clubs keep wanting him then he's obviously rated.... If you have clubs keen on you, you don't just go a flower it i'll go play VFL

Maybe he realised he made a massive mistake with Essendon? and then the grand finalist show interest in him... I know what I'd be doing regardless of how many clubs I've been at
Plus, you just lost your #2 ruck. You can't go into next year playing NicNat and Lycett and hope neither gets injured all year.

Yeah sorry RD but I could not disagree more.

Giles is the perfect pick-up for us. He will know that he isn't #1 ruck at the Eagles and he'll be vying with Lycett for the #2 spot. If we can get Giles for a third rounder it would be amazing. Even a second I'd take.

Giles roughly = Sinclair

Which leaves Jetta for a third rounder!

I guess I don't rate Giles as much as others. He's had a couple of good games, but I think NN, Lycett and McInness is still more than enough for as

@Rico - there are plenty of other clubs that don't have as many good rucks as we do, so what I'm saying is that Giles coming to us isn't a good idea because he has a better chance of getting a game at other clubs like Sydney, Carlton even Freo when Sandi retires etc but hey, if we wants to sit around as back and it costs us bugger all then fine by me  :)
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Ricochet on October 16, 2015, 01:13:27 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on October 16, 2015, 01:11:00 PM
Quote from: elephants on October 16, 2015, 12:57:16 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on October 16, 2015, 12:24:46 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on October 16, 2015, 12:02:28 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on October 16, 2015, 11:47:12 AM
Quote from: PowerBug on October 16, 2015, 11:41:40 AM
Quote from: elephants on October 16, 2015, 10:49:40 AM
WCE interested in Jon Giles.

I love this, should be cheap and the bloke can play when given the chance! Great Sinkers replacement.
He wants to go to a 4th club I think he's got an attitude problem tbh. If he's gone to three clubs to be the No. 1 ruck then at at two of them anyway he's been in the reserves and they've gone out next off-season to get another ruck. (They got Giles before Mumford came right?)

Would not go near him.

Agree. I don't want him at all

I'm not sure if it's attitude or talent or a combination of both, but if he thinks that he can just bounce from club to club if he isn't getting a game in the seniors then he probably needs to check his ego and realize that he is not as good as he thinks he is
Umm if clubs keep wanting him then he's obviously rated.... If you have clubs keen on you, you don't just go a flower it i'll go play VFL

Maybe he realised he made a massive mistake with Essendon? and then the grand finalist show interest in him... I know what I'd be doing regardless of how many clubs I've been at
Plus, you just lost your #2 ruck. You can't go into next year playing NicNat and Lycett and hope neither gets injured all year.

Yeah sorry RD but I could not disagree more.

Giles is the perfect pick-up for us. He will know that he isn't #1 ruck at the Eagles and he'll be vying with Lycett for the #2 spot. If we can get Giles for a third rounder it would be amazing. Even a second I'd take.

Giles roughly = Sinclair

Which leaves Jetta for a third rounder!

I guess I don't rate Giles as much as others. He's had a couple of good games, but I think NN, Lycett and McInness is still more than enough for as

@Rico - there are plenty of other clubs that don't have as many good rucks as we do, so what I'm saying is that Giles coming to us isn't a good idea because he has a better chance of getting a game at other clubs like Sydney, Carlton even Freo when Sandi retires etc but hey, if we wants to sit around as back and it costs us bugger all then fine by me  :)
But are they making an offer to him? Atm we only know WCE are interested

New environment, new coaches, new team. WCE are the best team in the comp for developing ruckmen. Anything can happen

He would see himself as #2 behind NicNat, or WCE would probably sell it that way. He knows he's #3-4 at Essendon behind Leuey, Belly, McKernan.

Plus he has more chance to play finals footy at WCE

If an offer is made, its obvious what he should be doing
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: RaisyDaisy on October 16, 2015, 01:15:13 PM
If he is in fact on the market, Sydney should be chasing him. He's a younger version of Pyke somewhat, so might as well!
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: elephants on October 16, 2015, 01:17:38 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on October 16, 2015, 01:13:27 PM
WCE are the best team in the comp

quoted!



Nah RD, he won't be on big money, he's coming into his prime as a ruckman and he'll be an extremely cost-effective back-up/potential starter.

Have no doubt the Jetta deal was done with this in the pipeline.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Pkbaldy on October 16, 2015, 01:29:15 PM
Reports GC want 2 first rounders for Dixon.

What a flowering joke. Hes barely worth the pick 10 Port offered. Only good for 10-15 games a year. Man's made paper...

Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Ricochet on October 16, 2015, 01:29:49 PM
Quote from: Pkbaldy on October 16, 2015, 01:29:15 PM
Reports GC want 2 first rounders for Dixon.

What a flowering joke. Hes barely worth the pick 10 Port offered. Only good for 10-15 games a year. Man's made paper...
Yeh i laughed at that
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: powersuperkents on October 16, 2015, 01:30:57 PM
Quote from: elephants on October 16, 2015, 01:17:38 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on October 16, 2015, 01:13:27 PM
WCE are the best team in the comp

quoted!



Nah RD, he won't be on big money, he's coming into his prime as a ruckman and he'll be an extremely cost-effective back-up/potential starter.

Have no doubt the Jetta deal was done with this in the pipeline.
Sorry mate, you will not want Giles, I remember him starting out at Port Adelaide (didn't get a game - although he was very young and had to compete with Brogan & Lade), in GWS he was pushed out completely by Mumford, in Essendon he was behind Bellchambers & Spud McKernan (both horrible rucks - sorry Bombers supporters, you cannot get too angry now that you have Luey though). Imagine him behind Nic NAt (and I have no doubts Lycett will always be selected before him).

He's just one of those players who only got senior opportunities because he lived in the era of the expansion teams - he's not up to AFL standard imo and is just trying to maintain contracts (or income) until he's too old to play
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: powersuperkents on October 16, 2015, 01:32:45 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on October 16, 2015, 01:29:49 PM
Quote from: Pkbaldy on October 16, 2015, 01:29:15 PM
Reports GC want 2 first rounders for Dixon.

What a flowering joke. Hes barely worth the pick 10 Port offered. Only good for 10-15 games a year. Man's made paper...
Yeh i laughed at that
+1

Yet they trade Bennell (a flowering prodigy) for a pick upgrade...

He's not worth pick 10 and Port are being generous, I assume they expect us to make up the difference because they got themselves ripped off in the Freo trade (max games per season for Dixon is 16... and that was this year...)

I hate the bias media saying that Port are being unreasonable with this trade and comparing us to St Kilda and the Carlisle deal... We are willing to give away our first flowering pick!!
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Ricochet on October 16, 2015, 01:34:19 PM
Quote from: powersuperkents on October 16, 2015, 01:30:57 PM
Quote from: elephants on October 16, 2015, 01:17:38 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on October 16, 2015, 01:13:27 PM
WCE are the best team in the comp

quoted!



Nah RD, he won't be on big money, he's coming into his prime as a ruckman and he'll be an extremely cost-effective back-up/potential starter.

Have no doubt the Jetta deal was done with this in the pipeline.
Sorry mate, you will not want Giles, I remember him starting out at Port Adelaide (didn't get a game - although he was very young and had to compete with Brogan & Lade), in GWS he was pushed out completely by Mumford, in Essendon he was behind Bellchambers & Spud McKernan (both horrible rucks - sorry Bombers supporters, you cannot get too angry now that you have Luey though). Imagine him behind Nic NAt (and I have no doubts Lycett will always be selected before him).

He's just one of those players who only got senior opportunities because he lived in the era of the expansion teams - he's not up to AFL standard imo and is just trying to maintain contracts (or income) until he's too old to play
Then why would WCE fly him over for a meeting.... We on here must know more than AFL recruiters
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: powersuperkents on October 16, 2015, 01:37:30 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on October 16, 2015, 01:34:19 PM
Quote from: powersuperkents on October 16, 2015, 01:30:57 PM
Quote from: elephants on October 16, 2015, 01:17:38 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on October 16, 2015, 01:13:27 PM
WCE are the best team in the comp

quoted!



Nah RD, he won't be on big money, he's coming into his prime as a ruckman and he'll be an extremely cost-effective back-up/potential starter.

Have no doubt the Jetta deal was done with this in the pipeline.
Sorry mate, you will not want Giles, I remember him starting out at Port Adelaide (didn't get a game - although he was very young and had to compete with Brogan & Lade), in GWS he was pushed out completely by Mumford, in Essendon he was behind Bellchambers & Spud McKernan (both horrible rucks - sorry Bombers supporters, you cannot get too angry now that you have Luey though). Imagine him behind Nic NAt (and I have no doubts Lycett will always be selected before him).

He's just one of those players who only got senior opportunities because he lived in the era of the expansion teams - he's not up to AFL standard imo and is just trying to maintain contracts (or income) until he's too old to play
Then why would WCE fly him over for a meeting.... We on here must know more than AFL recruiters
Idk, big mistake if they recruit him imo. Essendon will not let him go for a insignificant price as well.

I think Giles is worried because of Luey's arrival, and I think West Coast are worried because their ruck depth suddenly seems depleted (i.e. Nic Nat (arguably injury prone and constantly monitored) + Lycett (unproven). I think Giles provides them with security (however, I don't see him playing unless someone gets injured) and I also think WCE see him as a cheap short-term option
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: RaisyDaisy on October 16, 2015, 01:47:31 PM
Dawson Simpson officially now with GWS

Cam McCarthy now pleading to be traded to Freo

"I love all the boys at GWS and they’ve been great and stuff like that, but living in western Sydney I don’t think is for me," McCarthy said.

"I don’t really get to come home much - all the Melbourne boys get to fly back every time there’s a weekend off, but I haven’t really had the opportunity because Perth is so far away.

"I’ve got two younger sisters and you don’t really see them grow up as much in a way.

"I don’t want to miss too much of that because they’re pretty important to me."
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Pkbaldy on October 16, 2015, 01:53:33 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on October 16, 2015, 01:47:31 PM
Dawson Simpson officially now with GWS

Cam McCarthy now pleading to be traded to Freo

"I love all the boys at GWS and they’ve been great and stuff like that, but living in western Sydney I don’t think is for me," McCarthy said.

"I don’t really get to come home much - all the Melbourne boys get to fly back every time there’s a weekend off, but I haven’t really had the opportunity because Perth is so far away.

"I’ve got two younger sisters and you don’t really see them grow up as much in a way.

"I don’t want to miss too much of that because they’re pretty important to me."

The feeeeeels!
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: RaisyDaisy on October 16, 2015, 01:54:53 PM
Apologies if already mentioned, but North are looking to snare Aish now
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Pkbaldy on October 16, 2015, 01:55:43 PM
GWS trade Jacob Townsend and pick 120 to Richmond for pick 70
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: iZander on October 16, 2015, 01:57:33 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on October 16, 2015, 01:47:31 PM
Dawson Simpson officially now with GWS

Cam McCarthy now pleading to be traded to Freo

"I love all the boys at GWS and they’ve been great and stuff like that, but living in western Sydney I don’t think is for me," McCarthy said.

"I don’t really get to come home much - all the Melbourne boys get to fly back every time there’s a weekend off, but I haven’t really had the opportunity because Perth is so far away.

"I’ve got two younger sisters and you don’t really see them grow up as much in a way.

"I don’t want to miss too much of that because they’re pretty important to me."
Sounds like some Bs, to get a big salary. If thats how he felt why sign a large contract :P
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Pkbaldy on October 16, 2015, 01:57:58 PM
Nothing special in there. Handy tagger, but skills are debatable....
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: RaisyDaisy on October 16, 2015, 02:01:10 PM
Quote from: Pkbaldy on October 16, 2015, 01:57:58 PM
Nothing special in there. Handy tagger, but skills are debatable....

Richmond love trading in taggers for some reason

Saw a tweet by Freako that said something along those lines. Townsend, Hunt, Thomas and I think even someone else
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Pkbaldy on October 16, 2015, 02:17:25 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on October 16, 2015, 02:01:10 PM
Quote from: Pkbaldy on October 16, 2015, 01:57:58 PM
Nothing special in there. Handy tagger, but skills are debatable....

Richmond love trading in taggers for some reason

Saw a tweet by Freako that said something along those lines. Townsend, Hunt, Thomas and I think even someone else

Was Grigg ever a tagger?
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: powersuperkents on October 16, 2015, 02:40:42 PM
Quote from: iZander on October 16, 2015, 01:57:33 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on October 16, 2015, 01:47:31 PM
Dawson Simpson officially now with GWS

Cam McCarthy now pleading to be traded to Freo

"I love all the boys at GWS and they’ve been great and stuff like that, but living in western Sydney I don’t think is for me," McCarthy said.

"I don’t really get to come home much - all the Melbourne boys get to fly back every time there’s a weekend off, but I haven’t really had the opportunity because Perth is so far away.

"I’ve got two younger sisters and you don’t really see them grow up as much in a way.

"I don’t want to miss too much of that because they’re pretty important to me."
Sounds like some Bs, to get a big salary. If thats how he felt why sign a large contract :P
+1 mate. A big plus one
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: T Dog on October 16, 2015, 02:50:28 PM
Anyone heard about Rich being looked at by GWS ?. Just caught the end of a radio discussion. Missed any info if any.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Ringo on October 16, 2015, 03:24:00 PM
Josh Walker currently undergoing a medical with Brisbane. Rumour if passed will be packaged with Jansen for future picks next year possibly 3rd Round. That may be a bit light imo though.

Do not want Astbury or Bastinac if it means we compromise picks and miss Hipwood and/or Keays. Both these players are Qld bred and will not go home so a must for Brisbane as I see it.  Either that or they come home after 2 years
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: powersuperkents on October 16, 2015, 03:43:12 PM
Quote from: Ringo on October 16, 2015, 03:24:00 PM
Josh Walker currently undergoing a medical with Brisbane. Rumour if passed will be packaged with Jansen for future picks next year possibly 3rd Round. That may be a bit light imo though.

Do not want Astbury or Bastinac if it means we compromise picks and miss Hipwood and/or Keays. Both these players are Qld bred and will not go home so a must for Brisbane as I see it.  Either that or they come home after 2 years
I don't see a players (i.e. Walker, Astbury, Bastinac, & Jansen) leaving Brisbane if they requested a trade there. It impugns a player's mentality if he request trades two times over the duration of their career.

If they can get the picks to recruit their academy players, plus pick up all four of these players, it will be a huge win for Brisbane over the off-season (I think it would render the loss of Redden & Luey as insignificant - I'm hoping that the Lions can land it all, but it will be tough)
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Ringo on October 16, 2015, 03:52:00 PM
Quote from: powersuperkents on October 16, 2015, 03:43:12 PM
Quote from: Ringo on October 16, 2015, 03:24:00 PM
Josh Walker currently undergoing a medical with Brisbane. Rumour if passed will be packaged with Jansen for future picks next year possibly 3rd Round. That may be a bit light imo though.

Do not want Astbury or Bastinac if it means we compromise picks and miss Hipwood and/or Keays. Both these players are Qld bred and will not go home so a must for Brisbane as I see it.  Either that or they come home after 2 years
I don't see a players (i.e. Walker, Astbury, Bastinac, & Jansen) leaving Brisbane if they requested a trade there. It impugns a player's mentality if he request trades two times over the duration of their career.

If they can get the picks to recruit their academy players, plus pick up all four of these players, it will be a huge win for Brisbane over the off-season (I think it would render the loss of Redden & Luey as insignificant - I'm hoping that the Lions can land it all, but it will be tough)
Aish for Bastinac and a pick would suit me fine. Adds to the opinion I have clubs should negotiate the besty deal with a club in the city they want to go to.

Meant that Keays and Hipwood would stay unlike other players who are drafted to Brisbane.  Agree players moving to Brisbane probably will not leave.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: elephants on October 16, 2015, 04:04:41 PM
Quote from: powersuperkents on October 16, 2015, 01:37:30 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on October 16, 2015, 01:34:19 PM
Quote from: powersuperkents on October 16, 2015, 01:30:57 PM
Quote from: elephants on October 16, 2015, 01:17:38 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on October 16, 2015, 01:13:27 PM
WCE are the best team in the comp

quoted!



Nah RD, he won't be on big money, he's coming into his prime as a ruckman and he'll be an extremely cost-effective back-up/potential starter.

Have no doubt the Jetta deal was done with this in the pipeline.
Sorry mate, you will not want Giles, I remember him starting out at Port Adelaide (didn't get a game - although he was very young and had to compete with Brogan & Lade), in GWS he was pushed out completely by Mumford, in Essendon he was behind Bellchambers & Spud McKernan (both horrible rucks - sorry Bombers supporters, you cannot get too angry now that you have Luey though). Imagine him behind Nic NAt (and I have no doubts Lycett will always be selected before him).

He's just one of those players who only got senior opportunities because he lived in the era of the expansion teams - he's not up to AFL standard imo and is just trying to maintain contracts (or income) until he's too old to play
Then why would WCE fly him over for a meeting.... We on here must know more than AFL recruiters
Idk, big mistake if they recruit him imo. Essendon will not let him go for a insignificant price as well.

I think Giles is worried because of Luey's arrival, and I think West Coast are worried because their ruck depth suddenly seems depleted (i.e. Nic Nat (arguably injury prone and constantly monitored) + Lycett (unproven). I think Giles provides them with security (however, I don't see him playing unless someone gets injured) and I also think WCE see him as a cheap short-term option

So you've literally just said he'll likely be very cheap and that we need depth now that we have lost Sinclair given how injury prone Nat and Lycett are...

So whats the major issue?? :p
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: powersuperkents on October 16, 2015, 04:12:05 PM
Quote from: elephants on October 16, 2015, 04:04:41 PM
Quote from: powersuperkents on October 16, 2015, 01:37:30 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on October 16, 2015, 01:34:19 PM
Quote from: powersuperkents on October 16, 2015, 01:30:57 PM
Quote from: elephants on October 16, 2015, 01:17:38 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on October 16, 2015, 01:13:27 PM
WCE are the best team in the comp

quoted!



Nah RD, he won't be on big money, he's coming into his prime as a ruckman and he'll be an extremely cost-effective back-up/potential starter.

Have no doubt the Jetta deal was done with this in the pipeline.
Sorry mate, you will not want Giles, I remember him starting out at Port Adelaide (didn't get a game - although he was very young and had to compete with Brogan & Lade), in GWS he was pushed out completely by Mumford, in Essendon he was behind Bellchambers & Spud McKernan (both horrible rucks - sorry Bombers supporters, you cannot get too angry now that you have Luey though). Imagine him behind Nic NAt (and I have no doubts Lycett will always be selected before him).

He's just one of those players who only got senior opportunities because he lived in the era of the expansion teams - he's not up to AFL standard imo and is just trying to maintain contracts (or income) until he's too old to play
Then why would WCE fly him over for a meeting.... We on here must know more than AFL recruiters
Idk, big mistake if they recruit him imo. Essendon will not let him go for a insignificant price as well.

I think Giles is worried because of Luey's arrival, and I think West Coast are worried because their ruck depth suddenly seems depleted (i.e. Nic Nat (arguably injury prone and constantly monitored) + Lycett (unproven). I think Giles provides them with security (however, I don't see him playing unless someone gets injured) and I also think WCE see him as a cheap short-term option

So you've literally just said he'll likely be very cheap and that we need depth now that we have lost Sinclair given how injury prone Nat and Lycett are...

So whats the major issue?? :p
I said West Coast see him as cheap, I haven't stated how the Dons will value him  :P

They will expect a 2nd-3rd rounder imo (3rd rounder would be worth it for depth, I see Essendon demanding a fair bit though).

He'll be good for depth, the Eagles just need to hope to never resort to playing him (he's 3rd-4th string material imo and a club is better off bringing in a player from a different position if R1 or R2 goes down. Basically, the only time the Eagles, like the Dons, would play him is if they had no choice - i.e. Nic Nat & Lycett were both out and they needed to field a ruck)

Good for depth as an emergency player, not good as a player though - just don't see a decent deal being forged based solely on the fact he's a bomber
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: iZander on October 16, 2015, 04:17:34 PM
Quote from: powersuperkents on October 16, 2015, 04:12:05 PM
Quote from: elephants on October 16, 2015, 04:04:41 PM
Quote from: powersuperkents on October 16, 2015, 01:37:30 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on October 16, 2015, 01:34:19 PM
Quote from: powersuperkents on October 16, 2015, 01:30:57 PM
Quote from: elephants on October 16, 2015, 01:17:38 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on October 16, 2015, 01:13:27 PM
WCE are the best team in the comp

quoted!



Nah RD, he won't be on big money, he's coming into his prime as a ruckman and he'll be an extremely cost-effective back-up/potential starter.

Have no doubt the Jetta deal was done with this in the pipeline.
Sorry mate, you will not want Giles, I remember him starting out at Port Adelaide (didn't get a game - although he was very young and had to compete with Brogan & Lade), in GWS he was pushed out completely by Mumford, in Essendon he was behind Bellchambers & Spud McKernan (both horrible rucks - sorry Bombers supporters, you cannot get too angry now that you have Luey though). Imagine him behind Nic NAt (and I have no doubts Lycett will always be selected before him).

He's just one of those players who only got senior opportunities because he lived in the era of the expansion teams - he's not up to AFL standard imo and is just trying to maintain contracts (or income) until he's too old to play
Then why would WCE fly him over for a meeting.... We on here must know more than AFL recruiters
Idk, big mistake if they recruit him imo. Essendon will not let him go for a insignificant price as well.

I think Giles is worried because of Luey's arrival, and I think West Coast are worried because their ruck depth suddenly seems depleted (i.e. Nic Nat (arguably injury prone and constantly monitored) + Lycett (unproven). I think Giles provides them with security (however, I don't see him playing unless someone gets injured) and I also think WCE see him as a cheap short-term option

So you've literally just said he'll likely be very cheap and that we need depth now that we have lost Sinclair given how injury prone Nat and Lycett are...

So whats the major issue?? :p
I said West Coast see him as cheap, I haven't stated how the Dons will value him  :P

They will expect a 2nd-3rd rounder imo (3rd rounder would be worth it for depth, I see Essendon demanding a fair bit though).

He'll be good for depth, the Eagles just need to hope to never resort to playing him (he's 3rd-4th string material imo and a club is better off bringing in a player from a different position if R1 or R2 goes down. Basically, the only time the Eagles, like the Dons, would play him is if they had no choice - i.e. Nic Nat & Lycett were both out and they needed to field a ruck)

Good for depth as an emergency player, not good as a player though - just don't see a decent deal being forged based solely on the fact he's a bomber
Mcgovern has said his best position is in the ruck. I think i saw that somewhere :P So could back up should injuries occur
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: RaisyDaisy on October 16, 2015, 04:18:41 PM
Quote from: iZander on October 16, 2015, 04:17:34 PM
Mcgovern has said his best position is in the ruck. I think i saw that somewhere :P So could back up should injuries occur

Yep, he has told Simmo that numerous times
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: PowerBug on October 16, 2015, 04:21:17 PM
If McCarthy wanted to watch his sisters grow up he could've played WAFL, not AFL. Can't have everything. All these guys want literally everything. May as well abandon the draft and then teams only get players from their state, because anyone else will want to go home eventually ::)
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: elephants on October 16, 2015, 04:27:37 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on October 16, 2015, 04:18:41 PM
Quote from: iZander on October 16, 2015, 04:17:34 PM
Mcgovern has said his best position is in the ruck. I think i saw that somewhere :P So could back up should injuries occur

Yep, he has told Simmo that numerous times

Who cares where he thinks his best position is. If it really was his best position, the coaching staff would have played him there.

Fact is, the coaching staff/recruiting managers are a lot less convinced about his rucking ability than he is.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: iZander on October 16, 2015, 04:36:04 PM
Quote from: elephants on October 16, 2015, 04:27:37 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on October 16, 2015, 04:18:41 PM
Quote from: iZander on October 16, 2015, 04:17:34 PM
Mcgovern has said his best position is in the ruck. I think i saw that somewhere :P So could back up should injuries occur

Yep, he has told Simmo that numerous times

Who cares where he thinks his best position is. If it really was his best position, the coaching staff would have played him there.

Fact is, the coaching staff/recruiting managers are a lot less convinced about his rucking ability than he is.
No.
I think it comes down to where he is most beneficial to the team, and with injuries to eagles defenders and one of the best rucks in the comp. in nic nat its an easy choice to play him down back. That does not mean he isnt better in the ruck than the defence at all, and it doesnt mean the eagles think hes better in the back than the ruck.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Toga on October 16, 2015, 05:26:14 PM
How tall is McGovern? Wouldn't have even thought he'd have the build to play in the ruck :P
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: iZander on October 16, 2015, 05:28:26 PM
Quote from: Toga on October 16, 2015, 05:26:14 PM
How tall is McGovern? Wouldn't have even thought he'd have the build to play in the ruck :P
yeah he'd be on the short side for sure (1.90cm) :P But could be a good back up should both Nic Nat and Lycett go down, if he backs up his own statements anyway haha
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: LF on October 16, 2015, 05:28:55 PM
Quote from: Toga on October 16, 2015, 05:26:14 PM
How tall is McGovern? Wouldn't have even thought he'd have the build to play in the ruck :P

209 hit outs in 2012  for Claremont
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Pkbaldy on October 16, 2015, 05:30:21 PM
Sam Landsberger ‏@SamLandsberger  3m3 minutes ago
Essendon has REJECTED St Kilda's offer for Jake Carlisle. Advantage Hawthorn.

flower em then. Ruin Essendon's day and go for Talia, Saints.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Toga on October 16, 2015, 05:31:12 PM
Quote from: LF on October 16, 2015, 05:28:55 PM
Quote from: Toga on October 16, 2015, 05:26:14 PM
How tall is McGovern? Wouldn't have even thought he'd have the build to play in the ruck :P

209 hit outs in 2012  for Claremont

10 hitouts a game? So was he playing backup ruck back in those days?

But yeah definitely on the shorter side for a ruck, what's his vertical leap like?
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: iZander on October 16, 2015, 05:33:12 PM
Quote from: Toga on October 16, 2015, 05:31:12 PM
Quote from: LF on October 16, 2015, 05:28:55 PM
Quote from: Toga on October 16, 2015, 05:26:14 PM
How tall is McGovern? Wouldn't have even thought he'd have the build to play in the ruck :P

209 hit outs in 2012  for Claremont

10 hitouts a game? So was he playing backup ruck back in those days?

But yeah definitely on the shorter side for a ruck, what's his vertical leap like?
Id really have no idea, just know that he said he's better in the ruck :P Not sure if he can back that statement up haha
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: iZander on October 16, 2015, 05:34:42 PM
Quote from: Pkbaldy on October 16, 2015, 05:30:21 PM
Sam Landsberger ‏@SamLandsberger  3m3 minutes ago
Essendon has REJECTED St Kilda's offer for Jake Carlisle. Advantage Hawthorn.

flower em then. Ruin Essendon's day and go for Talia, Saints.
Wouldnt ruin essendons day, they'd get 2 first rounders :P
It would ruin everyone else's day though because Hawks would get another gun...and no1 wants that do they ;)
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Bill Manspeaker on October 16, 2015, 05:37:32 PM
you're not getting pick 5 Essendon. trade Carlisle to Hawthorn, go for it. we've flowerin smashed the last couple off seasons,  so if we don't get the 24 year old Carlisle - we'll be just fine heading to the draft

Essendon and Hawthorn working together.  whodathunkit
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Mat0369 on October 16, 2015, 05:40:16 PM
Quote from: Pkbaldy on October 16, 2015, 02:17:25 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on October 16, 2015, 02:01:10 PM
Quote from: Pkbaldy on October 16, 2015, 01:57:58 PM
Nothing special in there. Handy tagger, but skills are debatable....

Richmond love trading in taggers for some reason

Saw a tweet by Freako that said something along those lines. Townsend, Hunt, Thomas and I think even someone else

Was Grigg ever a tagger?

Nah, he was actually a pretty good inside mid. I still hate that trade
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Grazz on October 16, 2015, 05:42:02 PM
Quote from: Pkbaldy on October 16, 2015, 05:30:21 PM
Sam Landsberger ‏@SamLandsberger  3m3 minutes ago
Essendon has REJECTED St Kilda's offer for Jake Carlisle. Advantage Hawthorn.

flower em then. Ruin Essendon's day and go for Talia, Saints.

I Have no doubt Dodoro wants that pick 5 but gaining two 1st round picks from the Hawks is just about breakeven on pick 5 i reckon. Bombers not loosing alot if anything, certainly won't ruin their day. ;)
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Jukes on October 16, 2015, 05:42:11 PM
If you're not willing to pay what he's worth you can get flowered saints, good luck never winning another premiership.

Hopefully can get this sorted with the hawks soon
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Pkbaldy on October 16, 2015, 05:51:30 PM
Quote from: Jukes on October 16, 2015, 05:42:11 PM
If you're not willing to pay what he's worth you can get flowered saints, good luck never winning another premiership.

Hopefully can get this sorted with the hawks soon

Classic Dons. Well apparently Jake and his manager were happy with the deal. Hence why St Kilda sent it. Clearly spastic Dumdoro is just being a stubborn cow.

And a Dons supporter isn't exactly in the position to diss premiership hopes. They're pretty damn far behind the 8 ball themselves.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: iZander on October 16, 2015, 05:53:07 PM
Quote from: Pkbaldy on October 16, 2015, 05:51:30 PM
Quote from: Jukes on October 16, 2015, 05:42:11 PM
If you're not willing to pay what he's worth you can get flowered saints, good luck never winning another premiership.

Hopefully can get this sorted with the hawks soon

Classic Dons. Well apparently Jake and his manager were happy with the deal. Hence why St Kilda sent it. Clearly spastic Dumdoro is just being a stubborn cow.
If the offer doesn't beat the one from Hawks then why would they accept it...Im assuming it didn't beat that
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Pkbaldy on October 16, 2015, 05:54:35 PM
Quote from: iZander on October 16, 2015, 05:53:07 PM
Quote from: Pkbaldy on October 16, 2015, 05:51:30 PM
Quote from: Jukes on October 16, 2015, 05:42:11 PM
If you're not willing to pay what he's worth you can get flowered saints, good luck never winning another premiership.

Hopefully can get this sorted with the hawks soon

Classic Dons. Well apparently Jake and his manager were happy with the deal. Hence why St Kilda sent it. Clearly spastic Dumdoro is just being a stubborn cow.
If the offer doesn't beat the one from Hawks then why would they accept it...Im assuming it didn't beat that

Well clearly it would of been on-par with the Hawks deal. Otherwise it would be been pointless for Bains to of send it. Probably included Players or switch of picks.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Grazz on October 16, 2015, 05:56:18 PM
Quote from: Jukes on October 16, 2015, 05:42:11 PM
If you're not willing to pay what he's worth you can get flowered saints, good luck never winning another premiership.

Hopefully can get this sorted with the hawks soon

Pick 5 is overs for him but if they want him then hand it over.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Jukes on October 16, 2015, 05:58:33 PM
Quote from: Pkbaldy on October 16, 2015, 05:51:30 PM
Quote from: Jukes on October 16, 2015, 05:42:11 PM
If you're not willing to pay what he's worth you can get flowered saints, good luck never winning another premiership.

Hopefully can get this sorted with the hawks soon

Classic Dons. Well apparently Jake and his manager were happy with the deal. Hence why St Kilda sent it. Clearly spastic Dumdoro is just being a stubborn cow.

I believe that a list manager's job is to IMPROVE the list, not take bullshower lowball offers for players when another team has tabled a good offer.

Quote from: Grazz on October 16, 2015, 05:56:18 PM
Quote from: Jukes on October 16, 2015, 05:42:11 PM
If you're not willing to pay what he's worth you can get flowered saints, good luck never winning another premiership.

Hopefully can get this sorted with the hawks soon

Pick 5 is overs for him but if they want him then hand it over.

Already developed key backman who can go forward, was borderline-AA when playing down back, only 24...I'd give up pick 4 for that for sure.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Ringo on October 16, 2015, 06:00:29 PM
For those that have not yet seen the points value for picks here it is:

http://www.foxsports.com.au/afl/afl-premiership/afl-draft-how-fatherson-and-academy-draft-picks-will-work-in-2015-full-draft-value-index/story-e6frf3e3-1227567743520

This is why Brisbane would be chasing picks and why Grazz point that 2 first round picks are better than 5th pick.  So say picks 13 and 18 are worth 2197 points compared to pick 5 1878.  So just accept it and then maybe trade the picks to clubs chasing points.

Trade night will be interesting as say Keays is rated pick 12 and Hipwood 16 as per some phantom drafts brisbane will have to give up some 2335 points. So you can see why Brisbane will be chasing draft picks.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Toga on October 16, 2015, 06:02:17 PM
And also why Brisbane is looking to trade future picks for guys like Jansen and Brown ;)
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Pkbaldy on October 16, 2015, 06:02:40 PM
All Dodoro does is throw out bullshower offers. No doubt we wouldn't have bothered making an offer if it wasnt suitable. But go ahead, Kangas n Essendon can help out the favourite side to another flag. Surely they wont forget you in the victory speech.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Ricochet on October 16, 2015, 06:03:45 PM
But hey, he made Melbourne give 25 for Melksham... maybe he is actually a magician?
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: iZander on October 16, 2015, 06:05:25 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on October 16, 2015, 06:03:45 PM
But hey, he made Melbourne give 25 for Melksham... maybe he is actually a magician?
lol, first plausible explanation I've heard for how that happened ;)
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Pkbaldy on October 16, 2015, 06:06:03 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on October 16, 2015, 06:03:45 PM
But hey, he made Melbourne give 25 for Melksham... maybe he is actually a magician?

Melk browlow chance for sure.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Grazz on October 16, 2015, 06:14:15 PM
Quote from: Jukes on October 16, 2015, 05:58:33 PM
Quote from: Pkbaldy on October 16, 2015, 05:51:30 PM
Quote from: Jukes on October 16, 2015, 05:42:11 PM
If you're not willing to pay what he's worth you can get flowered saints, good luck never winning another premiership.

Hopefully can get this sorted with the hawks soon

Classic Dons. Well apparently Jake and his manager were happy with the deal. Hence why St Kilda sent it. Clearly spastic Dumdoro is just being a stubborn cow.

I believe that a list manager's job is to IMPROVE the list, not take bullshower lowball offers for players when another team has tabled a good offer.

Quote from: Grazz on October 16, 2015, 05:56:18 PM
Quote from: Jukes on October 16, 2015, 05:42:11 PM
If you're not willing to pay what he's worth you can get flowered saints, good luck never winning another premiership.

Hopefully can get this sorted with the hawks soon

Pick 5 is overs for him but if they want him then hand it over.

Already developed key backman who can go forward, was borderline-AA when playing down back, only 24...I'd give up pick 4 for that for sure.

Think you're over rating him a little there.
Saint will be paying overs for him with Pick 5 and Hawthorn will be to with two first rounders but the difference with the Hawks is they don't mess about if they want a player they are prepared to pay overs to just get it done. Now Hawks have thrown those picks in the ring Saints need to ask how far over is pick 5 now the Hawks are in the hunt if the Saints really want him that bad.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Ricochet on October 16, 2015, 06:16:25 PM
Saints Offer

Carlisle + N23 + n25
for
N5
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Pkbaldy on October 16, 2015, 06:18:36 PM
Quote from: Grazz on October 16, 2015, 06:14:15 PM
Quote from: Jukes on October 16, 2015, 05:58:33 PM
Quote from: Pkbaldy on October 16, 2015, 05:51:30 PM
Quote from: Jukes on October 16, 2015, 05:42:11 PM
If you're not willing to pay what he's worth you can get flowered saints, good luck never winning another premiership.

Hopefully can get this sorted with the hawks soon

Classic Dons. Well apparently Jake and his manager were happy with the deal. Hence why St Kilda sent it. Clearly spastic Dumdoro is just being a stubborn cow.

I believe that a list manager's job is to IMPROVE the list, not take bullshower lowball offers for players when another team has tabled a good offer.

Quote from: Grazz on October 16, 2015, 05:56:18 PM
Quote from: Jukes on October 16, 2015, 05:42:11 PM
If you're not willing to pay what he's worth you can get flowered saints, good luck never winning another premiership.

Hopefully can get this sorted with the hawks soon

Pick 5 is overs for him but if they want him then hand it over.

Already developed key backman who can go forward, was borderline-AA when playing down back, only 24...I'd give up pick 4 for that for sure.

Think you're over rating him a little there.
Saint will be paying overs for him with Pick 5 and Hawthorn will be to with two first rounders but the difference with the Hawks is they don't mess about if they want a player they are prepared to pay overs to just get it done.

Id be fine with 5 for Carlisle and 25 or whatever that melks pick was. If it was a sure thing that Sydney would do 24 and 25 for 14. Because for the Academy points system they'd gain an extra 500 points and Saints would get a top 15 pick and Carlilse. Then we get Freeman for next years 2nd.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Pkbaldy on October 16, 2015, 06:20:24 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on October 16, 2015, 06:16:25 PM
Saints Offer

Carlisle + N23 + n25
for
N55

5 not 55 haha. Take out the 23 or 25 and its a good offer.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Ricochet on October 16, 2015, 06:21:00 PM
Quote from: Pkbaldy on October 16, 2015, 06:20:24 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on October 16, 2015, 06:16:25 PM
Saints Offer

Carlisle + N23 + n25
for
N55

5 not 55 haha. Take out the 23 or 25 and its a good offer.
hahaha my bad.

and agree. Saints should just take one our and seal it
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Pkbaldy on October 16, 2015, 06:22:06 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on October 16, 2015, 06:21:00 PM
Quote from: Pkbaldy on October 16, 2015, 06:20:24 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on October 16, 2015, 06:16:25 PM
Saints Offer

Carlisle + N23 + n25
for
N55

5 not 55 haha. Take out the 23 or 25 and its a good offer.
hahaha my bad.

and agree. Saints should just take one our and seal it

flower it would of been the smuggest shower ever if it was N55 haha.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Grazz on October 16, 2015, 06:32:28 PM
Quote from: Pkbaldy on October 16, 2015, 06:18:36 PM
Quote from: Grazz on October 16, 2015, 06:14:15 PM
Quote from: Jukes on October 16, 2015, 05:58:33 PM
Quote from: Pkbaldy on October 16, 2015, 05:51:30 PM
Quote from: Jukes on October 16, 2015, 05:42:11 PM
If you're not willing to pay what he's worth you can get flowered saints, good luck never winning another premiership.

Hopefully can get this sorted with the hawks soon

Classic Dons. Well apparently Jake and his manager were happy with the deal. Hence why St Kilda sent it. Clearly spastic Dumdoro is just being a stubborn cow.

I believe that a list manager's job is to IMPROVE the list, not take bullshower lowball offers for players when another team has tabled a good offer.

Quote from: Grazz on October 16, 2015, 05:56:18 PM
Quote from: Jukes on October 16, 2015, 05:42:11 PM
If you're not willing to pay what he's worth you can get flowered saints, good luck never winning another premiership.

Hopefully can get this sorted with the hawks soon

Pick 5 is overs for him but if they want him then hand it over.

Already developed key backman who can go forward, was borderline-AA when playing down back, only 24...I'd give up pick 4 for that for sure.

Think you're over rating him a little there.
Saint will be paying overs for him with Pick 5 and Hawthorn will be to with two first rounders but the difference with the Hawks is they don't mess about if they want a player they are prepared to pay overs to just get it done.

Id be fine with 5 for Carlisle and 25 or whatever that melks pick was. If it was a sure thing that Sydney would do 24 and 25 for 14. Because for the Academy points system they'd gain an extra 500 points and Saints would get a top 15 pick and Carlilse. Then we get Freeman for next years 2nd.

From all your supporters ive heard from on trade radio etc they would be fine with it to mate, it seems the Saints themselves aren't, like i said pick 5 is overs for him but if he's that important to you in the grand scheme of things pay it and move on. Plenty of clubs pay overs for players to ensure they get what they need/want. When/if you're playing finals in 2018 and beyond whose gunna give a flower about giving up pick 5 for good defender in 2015.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: elephants on October 16, 2015, 06:45:59 PM
Quote from: iZander on October 16, 2015, 04:36:04 PM
Quote from: elephants on October 16, 2015, 04:27:37 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on October 16, 2015, 04:18:41 PM
Quote from: iZander on October 16, 2015, 04:17:34 PM
Mcgovern has said his best position is in the ruck. I think i saw that somewhere :P So could back up should injuries occur

Yep, he has told Simmo that numerous times

Who cares where he thinks his best position is. If it really was his best position, the coaching staff would have played him there.

Fact is, the coaching staff/recruiting managers are a lot less convinced about his rucking ability than he is.
No.
I think it comes down to where he is most beneficial to the team, and with injuries to eagles defenders and one of the best rucks in the comp. in nic nat its an easy choice to play him down back. That does not mean he isnt better in the ruck than the defence at all, and it doesnt mean the eagles think hes better in the back than the ruck.

If you played every player where they thought their best position was you'd have 40 midfielders on every list.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: enzedder on October 16, 2015, 06:55:20 PM
As good as Carlisle might be as a Saints supporter I would rather miss out on him and let the Bombers suck eggs. I remember getting Lovett for pick#16 ... Nice trading that was... 0 games and plenty of bad press. Take or leave it as far as I'm concerned... Hope you get nothing Essendon.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: _wato on October 16, 2015, 07:30:14 PM
What do we think of

Adelaide N28 > Collingwood for Seedsman
Collingwood N28 > North
Collingwood N26 > Brisbane
North Bastinac > Brisbane 
Brisbane Aish > Collingwood

Fair for everyone is that not???
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: meow meow on October 16, 2015, 07:41:43 PM
Quote from: Ringo on October 16, 2015, 06:00:29 PM
For those that have not yet seen the points value for picks here it is:

http://www.foxsports.com.au/afl/afl-premiership/afl-draft-how-fatherson-and-academy-draft-picks-will-work-in-2015-full-draft-value-index/story-e6frf3e3-1227567743520

This is why Brisbane would be chasing picks and why Grazz point that 2 first round picks are better than 5th pick.  So say picks 13 and 18 are worth 2197 points compared to pick 5 1878.  So just accept it and then maybe trade the picks to clubs chasing points.

Trade night will be interesting as say Keays is rated pick 12 and Hipwood 16 as per some phantom drafts brisbane will have to give up some 2335 points. So you can see why Brisbane will be chasing draft picks.

You wouldn't have to give up 2335 points. You get a 20% discount, plus you can make points up next year if need be.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Ringo on October 16, 2015, 07:46:42 PM
Would depend in what Pies want in relation to picks, Rem,ember they still have to sort Treloar and Howe has nominated Pies as well.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: AaronKirk on October 16, 2015, 07:59:58 PM
So what is going to happen is picks 15 + 18 from Hawthorn go to Essendon for Carlisle.

Then Essendon on trade picks 15 + 18 for GWS pick 8

GWS then pay a cheaper price using picks 15 + 18 for their academy players (they will have pick 7 when the Treloar deal is sorted)

Watch this space.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: _wato on October 16, 2015, 08:14:37 PM
Quote from: Ringo on October 16, 2015, 07:46:42 PM
Would depend in what Pies want in relation to picks, Rem,ember they still have to sort Treloar and Howe has nominated Pies as well.

The way I see it for Collingwood is

In - Treloar, Aish, Howe, Pick 25, 4th round

Out - Pick 7, Pick 26, First round next year, Kennedy, Seedsman, Freeman, 3rd round
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Bill Manspeaker on October 16, 2015, 08:24:18 PM
Quote from: AaronKirk on October 16, 2015, 07:59:58 PM
So what is going to happen is picks 15 + 18 from Hawthorn go to Essendon for Carlisle.

Then Essendon on trade picks 15 + 18 for GWS pick 8

GWS then pay a cheaper price using picks 15 + 18 for their academy players (they will have pick 7 when the Treloar deal is sorted)

Watch this space.

apparently Carlisle's camp are not interested in dealing with Hawthorn. looks something like 5 > Carlisle + 25, then hopefully we can do the deal you're talking about by adding our other second rounder and get Carlisle and pick 8

not sure we'd be able to pull that off but would be happy days if we did
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: kilbluff1985 on October 16, 2015, 08:26:30 PM
Saints offer was Carlisle + 23 + 25 for 5

no wonder we rejected it
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Bill Manspeaker on October 16, 2015, 08:28:33 PM
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on October 16, 2015, 08:26:30 PM
Saints offer was Carlisle + 23 + 25 for 5

no wonder we rejected it

like Essendon asking for Billings, we started big and will probably end up taking one of 23 or 25
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: kilbluff1985 on October 16, 2015, 08:32:37 PM
Quote from: Bill Manspeaker on October 16, 2015, 08:28:33 PM
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on October 16, 2015, 08:26:30 PM
Saints offer was Carlisle + 23 + 25 for 5

no wonder we rejected it

like Essendon asking for Billings, we started big and will probably end up taking one of 23 or 25

Billings is a much more reasonable request then that they pretty much asking to get him for free
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: GoLions on October 16, 2015, 08:33:54 PM
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on October 16, 2015, 08:32:37 PM
Quote from: Bill Manspeaker on October 16, 2015, 08:28:33 PM
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on October 16, 2015, 08:26:30 PM
Saints offer was Carlisle + 23 + 25 for 5

no wonder we rejected it

like Essendon asking for Billings, we started big and will probably end up taking one of 23 or 25

Billings is a much more reasonable request then that they pretty much asking to get him for free
Haha are you serious?
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Nige on October 16, 2015, 08:37:47 PM
Quote from: GoLions on October 16, 2015, 08:33:54 PM
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on October 16, 2015, 08:32:37 PM
Quote from: Bill Manspeaker on October 16, 2015, 08:28:33 PM
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on October 16, 2015, 08:26:30 PM
Saints offer was Carlisle + 23 + 25 for 5

no wonder we rejected it

like Essendon asking for Billings, we started big and will probably end up taking one of 23 or 25

Billings is a much more reasonable request then that they pretty much asking to get him for free
Haha are you serious?
I'm going to say yes.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: elephants on October 16, 2015, 08:41:38 PM
Oh kb... :P
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Toga on October 16, 2015, 08:47:53 PM
:-X
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Mat0369 on October 16, 2015, 08:52:36 PM
Herald Sun have printed an article saying we are 5 years off making the 8 and 7 off being a finals contender. I stopped reading when it said we should trade Hendo for Josh Walker or Kersten straight up.....

Not only is it out of date since Hendo has already been traded for a future first, we won't be playing finals for 10 years if we do what this halfwit is saying
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Pkbaldy on October 16, 2015, 08:53:35 PM
Quote from: Mat0369 on October 16, 2015, 08:52:36 PM
Herald Sun have printed an article saying we are 5 years off making the 8 and 7 off being a finals contender. I stopped reading when it said we should trade Hendo for Josh Walker or Kersten straight up.....

Not only is it out of date since Hendo has already been traded for a future first, we won't be playing finals for 10 years if we do what this halfwit is saying

Who wrote it?
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Pkbaldy on October 16, 2015, 09:00:06 PM
Tom Browne chatting to Jake Carlisle's manager.

https://amp.twimg.com/v/bc6899ba-06ff-4a92-97de-67a8b068c2c4 (https://amp.twimg.com/v/bc6899ba-06ff-4a92-97de-67a8b068c2c4)
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Mat0369 on October 16, 2015, 09:00:18 PM
Quote from: Pkbaldy on October 16, 2015, 08:53:35 PM
Who wrote it?

Let me find it, it was in my emails this morning from HS. What was worse it is pay content so I had to backdoor it (http://content.boards.philadelphiaeagles.com/public/style_emoticons/default/sideroll.gif)


http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/carlton-list-analysis-gary-buckenara-says-blues-five-years-away-from-finals/story-fnp04d70-1227566121798?sv=a2050ce3cd89b4bff96fb7c97ec8a655

Gary Buckenara.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Pkbaldy on October 16, 2015, 09:08:23 PM
Quote from: Mat0369 on October 16, 2015, 09:00:18 PM
Quote from: Pkbaldy on October 16, 2015, 08:53:35 PM
Who wrote it?

Let me find it, it was in my emails this morning from HS. What was worse it is pay content so I had to backdoor it (http://content.boards.philadelphiaeagles.com/public/style_emoticons/default/sideroll.gif)


http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/carlton-list-analysis-gary-buckenara-says-blues-five-years-away-from-finals/story-fnp04d70-1227566121798?sv=a2050ce3cd89b4bff96fb7c97ec8a655

Gary Buckenara.

He's the old Hawks list manager yeah? I bet it was so hard to draft people with those priority picks you got handed to you.
Wouldn't pay too much attention to what he says mate :P Herald Sun doesn't have many creditable journos...
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Purple 77 on October 16, 2015, 10:05:31 PM
Quote from: Mat0369 on October 16, 2015, 08:52:36 PM
Herald Sun have printed an article saying we are 5 years off making the 8 and 7 off being a finals contender. I stopped reading when it said we should trade Hendo for Josh Walker or Kersten straight up.....

Not only is it out of date since Hendo has already been traded for a future first, we won't be playing finals for 10 years if we do what this halfwit is saying

Same guy said we should look at delisting Dean Kent  ::)

That's when I stopped reading. What an idiot.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: AaronKirk on October 16, 2015, 11:17:39 PM
Quote from: Bill Manspeaker on October 16, 2015, 08:24:18 PM
Quote from: AaronKirk on October 16, 2015, 07:59:58 PM
So what is going to happen is picks 15 + 18 from Hawthorn go to Essendon for Carlisle.

Then Essendon on trade picks 15 + 18 for GWS pick 8

GWS then pay a cheaper price using picks 15 + 18 for their academy players (they will have pick 7 when the Treloar deal is sorted)

Watch this space.

apparently Carlisle's camp are not interested in dealing with Hawthorn. looks something like 5 > Carlisle + 25, then hopefully we can do the deal you're talking about by adding our other second rounder and get Carlisle and pick 8

not sure we'd be able to pull that off but would be happy days if we did

I don't get why Carlisle woudn't go to Hawthorn? They are not going to drop off much in the next few years.

But Carlisle + a pick (23 or 25) for pick 5 is slight overs we would be giving but i'd do it
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Grazz on October 16, 2015, 11:28:41 PM
Treloar has groin surgery, GWS don't know anything Pie's don't know anything what the hell.  :o
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: AaronKirk on October 17, 2015, 12:40:14 AM
Quote from: Grazz on October 16, 2015, 11:28:41 PM
Treloar has groin surgery, GWS don't know anything Pie's don't know anything what the hell.  :o

AFL integrity department surely to have a look at it.

If Collingwood did their proper due diligence (which they have) they would have known he was carrying a groin issue.

Of course Collingwood knew about the surgery surely?
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Grazz on October 17, 2015, 12:56:39 AM
Quote from: AaronKirk on October 17, 2015, 12:40:14 AM
Quote from: Grazz on October 16, 2015, 11:28:41 PM
Treloar has groin surgery, GWS don't know anything Pie's don't know anything what the hell.  :o

AFL integrity department surely to have a look at it.

If Collingwood did their proper due diligence (which they have) they would have known he was carrying a groin issue.

Of course Collingwood knew about the surgery surely?

You would think they will have a good look at it.
Very odd indeed particularly paying for it out of his own pocket. Weird.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Big Mac on October 17, 2015, 01:19:22 AM
Quote from: Purple 77 on October 16, 2015, 10:05:31 PM
Quote from: Mat0369 on October 16, 2015, 08:52:36 PM
Herald Sun have printed an article saying we are 5 years off making the 8 and 7 off being a finals contender. I stopped reading when it said we should trade Hendo for Josh Walker or Kersten straight up.....

Not only is it out of date since Hendo has already been traded for a future first, we won't be playing finals for 10 years if we do what this halfwit is saying

Same guy said we should look at delisting Dean Kent  ::)

That's when I stopped reading. What an idiot.

Hahaha yeh that guy was an idiot

I think he pretty much just read a couple articles beforehand and then wrote his own

Probably never watched a Melbourne game
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: _wato on October 17, 2015, 01:49:58 AM
Collingwood gives Pick 7, First round 2016, Pick 47

Collingwood gets Treloar, pick 27, Finlayson

Latest trade rumour I have been hearing, don't mind it at all

And in response to all this banter about the secret groin op, who cares?? Robbo is a twat, and would arguably be one of the most overrated flogs in the AFL media going around, what he says means nothing

All it is, is a groin op, was successful and he isn't a required GWS player anymore despite being currently contracted

Also, I see Eddie employed Treloar's gf at the club, looks absolute certain now 8)
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Mat0369 on October 17, 2015, 02:37:15 AM
Maybe he got the snip
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Money Shot on October 17, 2015, 10:10:34 AM
I would of thought that Carlton and Richmond would have agreed on something over Yarran by now ... I would have thought next years first round pick for Yarran would be enough considering tigers should do well this up coming year ...
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Pkbaldy on October 17, 2015, 01:03:57 PM
Quote from: Mat0369 on October 17, 2015, 02:37:15 AM
Maybe he got the snip

A Circumcision?
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Mat0369 on October 17, 2015, 02:19:17 PM
Quote from: Pkbaldy on October 16, 2015, 09:08:23 PM
He's the old Hawks list manager yeah? I bet it was so hard to draft people with those priority picks you got handed to you.
Wouldn't pay too much attention to what he says mate :P Herald Sun doesn't have many creditable journos...

I found it pretty funny how bad it was. Everyone understands we are rebuilding and it is going to take time, but the fact the article was published on the 15th and the Hendo trade happened the day before......

I wasn't going to waste my time reading any further.

Quote from: Purple 77 on October 16, 2015, 10:05:31 PM
Same guy said we should look at delisting Dean Kent  ::)

That's when I stopped reading. What an idiot.

This might take the cake

Quote from: Pkbaldy on October 17, 2015, 01:03:57 PM
A Circumcision?

Yup, club wouldn't be paying for it and it is in the groin region.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: H1bb3i2d on October 17, 2015, 02:31:12 PM
Any chance of a Giles - Colledge trade (probably with some useless draft pick swaps)?
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: H1bb3i2d on October 17, 2015, 02:52:37 PM
And someone please tell me that Carlisle, 23 + 25 is a joke for 5... Supporters have said themselves they would want to turn those picks into 8. If anything less than Carlisle and 8 for 5 is unders, someone gimme some of what they're on, please! Exams are stressful ;)

But seriously, look at what the good, efficient traders like Hawks, Cats etc. do. They don't expect the world for their picks, they target a player and do what needs to be done to get them.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: elephants on October 17, 2015, 02:55:04 PM
Quote from: H1bb3i2d on October 17, 2015, 02:31:12 PM
Any chance of a Giles - Colledge trade (probably with some useless draft pick swaps)?

Reckon there's a fair chance. Would work alright for both parties.

Id prefer to keep one of Rosa/Colledge purely for midfield depth. Haven't heard much on interest in Rosa though, might mean there isn't a heap.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Nige on October 17, 2015, 03:27:10 PM
On the bright side of things, look forward to this coming week of the trade period. It's bound to be way busier than this past week.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: powersuperkents on October 17, 2015, 04:21:33 PM
http://www.adelaidenow.com.au/sport/afl/gold-coast-asking-price-for-charlie-dixon-stalls-port-adelaide-and-baffles-experts/story-fnb7al7m-1227572042060?sv=9983606f9cd4da3c64d2517bba688e99 (http://www.adelaidenow.com.au/sport/afl/gold-coast-asking-price-for-charlie-dixon-stalls-port-adelaide-and-baffles-experts/story-fnb7al7m-1227572042060?sv=9983606f9cd4da3c64d2517bba688e99)

This is getting ridiculous. Experts think the Gold Coast expect us to make up the difference for their short-sighted Bennell trade (they should not have given him away for next to nothing and destroyed his market value by publicly firing him and announcing his indiscretions).

Two first rounders for Dixon effectively means he will cost more than Dangerfield did... Usually it's starting your desired outcome and then finding middle ground... This is what the Suns consider 'middle ground'... Pick 10 is flowering generous alone considering that Dixon is merely potential, rather than a proven player...  >:(
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: JBs-Hawks on October 17, 2015, 04:29:43 PM
Quote from: powersuperkents on October 17, 2015, 04:21:33 PM
http://www.adelaidenow.com.au/sport/afl/gold-coast-asking-price-for-charlie-dixon-stalls-port-adelaide-and-baffles-experts/story-fnb7al7m-1227572042060?sv=9983606f9cd4da3c64d2517bba688e99 (http://www.adelaidenow.com.au/sport/afl/gold-coast-asking-price-for-charlie-dixon-stalls-port-adelaide-and-baffles-experts/story-fnb7al7m-1227572042060?sv=9983606f9cd4da3c64d2517bba688e99)

This is getting ridiculous. Experts think the Gold Coast expect us to make up the difference for their short-sighted Bennell trade (they should not have given him away for next to nothing and destroyed his market value by publicly firing him and announcing his indiscretions).

Two first rounders for Dixon effectively means he will cost more than Dangerfield did... Usually it's starting your desired outcome and then finding middle ground... This is what the Suns consider 'middle ground'... Pick 10 is flowering generous alone considering that Dixon is merely potential, rather than a proven player...  >:(

Dixon is a flowerload more proven then anyone you will get at pick 10
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Mat0369 on October 17, 2015, 04:39:13 PM
Two first rounder picks is also f'ing crazy talk for Dixon. He has had some off the field stuff pop up over the last 12 months and is made of glass. Gold Coast should be happy with pick 10 in that deal and call it a day.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Toga on October 17, 2015, 04:47:02 PM
Pick 10 for Dixon would be fair game. Dixon is more proven than anyone you can get at Pick 10, however he has also had some serious injury problems over the start of his career which aren't clearly behind him yet. Two first rounders is overkill.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: powersuperkents on October 17, 2015, 05:07:06 PM
Quote from: JBs-Hawks on October 17, 2015, 04:29:43 PM
Quote from: powersuperkents on October 17, 2015, 04:21:33 PM
http://www.adelaidenow.com.au/sport/afl/gold-coast-asking-price-for-charlie-dixon-stalls-port-adelaide-and-baffles-experts/story-fnb7al7m-1227572042060?sv=9983606f9cd4da3c64d2517bba688e99 (http://www.adelaidenow.com.au/sport/afl/gold-coast-asking-price-for-charlie-dixon-stalls-port-adelaide-and-baffles-experts/story-fnb7al7m-1227572042060?sv=9983606f9cd4da3c64d2517bba688e99)

This is getting ridiculous. Experts think the Gold Coast expect us to make up the difference for their short-sighted Bennell trade (they should not have given him away for next to nothing and destroyed his market value by publicly firing him and announcing his indiscretions).

Two first rounders for Dixon effectively means he will cost more than Dangerfield did... Usually it's starting your desired outcome and then finding middle ground... This is what the Suns consider 'middle ground'... Pick 10 is flowering generous alone considering that Dixon is merely potential, rather than a proven player...  >:(

Dixon is a flowerload more proven then anyone you will get at pick 10
I agree with that, Pick 10 is fair game, it's once they start demanding overs when I get annoyed, and two first rounders... The list was young in 2013, however Gray, Boak, & Westhoff would now be considered aging (26-29 yo bracket) and the other players are reaching the 23-25yo bracket - Schulz still remains the only one over 30. I think two first rounders really screws up our team's future (we will be missing 2013, 2014 & 15 first rounders and I don't think missing first rounders for 4 straight years is worth it for a 25yo Dixon). The last time Port Adelaide used a first round pick, was when we drafted Ollie Wines, I'm certain the club will want to use the first round pick in 2016.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: elephants on October 17, 2015, 05:21:16 PM
Yeah Pick 10 for Dixon is fine, if any more was added it should be something pretty minor imo
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Ringo on October 17, 2015, 05:34:15 PM
Suns are dreaming if they think they can get 2 first round picks for Dixon. Reckon 10 is about riight but if they want more than no more than 3rd or 4th round pick in my opinion.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: RiOtChEsS on October 17, 2015, 05:39:25 PM
Quote from: Money Shot on October 17, 2015, 10:10:34 AM
I would of thought that Carlton and Richmond would have agreed on something over Yarran by now ... I would have thought next years first round pick for Yarran would be enough considering tigers should do well this up coming year ...
apparently Brisbane involved with the deal, Bell to Lions, Yaz to Tigers and picks coming our way, could be why its snagged
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: tbagrocks on October 17, 2015, 06:00:20 PM
Quote from: JBs-Hawks on October 17, 2015, 04:29:43 PM
Quote from: powersuperkents on October 17, 2015, 04:21:33 PM
http://www.adelaidenow.com.au/sport/afl/gold-coast-asking-price-for-charlie-dixon-stalls-port-adelaide-and-baffles-experts/story-fnb7al7m-1227572042060?sv=9983606f9cd4da3c64d2517bba688e99 (http://www.adelaidenow.com.au/sport/afl/gold-coast-asking-price-for-charlie-dixon-stalls-port-adelaide-and-baffles-experts/story-fnb7al7m-1227572042060?sv=9983606f9cd4da3c64d2517bba688e99)

This is getting ridiculous. Experts think the Gold Coast expect us to make up the difference for their short-sighted Bennell trade (they should not have given him away for next to nothing and destroyed his market value by publicly firing him and announcing his indiscretions).

Two first rounders for Dixon effectively means he will cost more than Dangerfield did... Usually it's starting your desired outcome and then finding middle ground... This is what the Suns consider 'middle ground'... Pick 10 is flowering generous alone considering that Dixon is merely potential, rather than a proven player...  >:(

Dixon is a flowerload more proven then anyone you will get at pick 10
Well flog me pink, I agree with this guy :o  #10 in 3-4 years might be better but that's still only an if!
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Ringo on October 17, 2015, 06:12:29 PM
Quote from: RiOtChEsS on October 17, 2015, 05:39:25 PM
Quote from: Money Shot on October 17, 2015, 10:10:34 AM
I would of thought that Carlton and Richmond would have agreed on something over Yarran by now ... I would have thought next years first round pick for Yarran would be enough considering tigers should do well this up coming year ...
apparently Brisbane involved with the deal, Bell to Lions, Yaz to Tigers and picks coming our way, could be why its snagged
Think there is an exchange of picks invoilved and that may be the sticking point.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: tbagrocks on October 17, 2015, 06:23:15 PM
I hate to tell you I told you so, actually I don't hate it at all but. I told you so ;)

Few years ago when GWS and the GC were hording top draft picks like a kid on Halloween and I said "They should be doing everything they can to try recruit all the older mature experienced bodies they can get"

They didn't, their teams have both sucked for five years and those top draft picks they were soooooooooooooooo keen on hording, are all leaving ::)

Guess Tbag was right all along ::)
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: kilbluff1985 on October 17, 2015, 06:30:39 PM
gws are a top 8 side with Mumford man
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Mr.Craig on October 17, 2015, 06:48:57 PM
If I hear the word wantaway one more time I'm going to freaking lose it.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: elephants on October 17, 2015, 07:02:15 PM
GWS will make finals next year and GC have been slayed by injuries and off field issues.

They honestly haven't sucked for five years and you're daft if you think they were gonna come into the comp and compete from the get go.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: PowerBug on October 17, 2015, 09:38:17 PM
http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/afl-trades-four-club-trade-could-help-power-snare-jimmy-toumpas-charlie-dixon/story-fnp04d70-1227572793141

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Discussions are continuing over a complex deal which is set to deliver Toumpas to Port, Ben Kennedy from Collingwood to Melbourne, Jeremy Howe from Melbourne to Collingwood and Paul Seedsman from Collingwood to Adelaide.


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The Crows are understood to have offered pick 32 for Seedsman, and that pick is a key to the negotiations. It is likely to be passed on to Port, which would give up two draft picks for Toumpas and No. 32 and then be in a position to continue its haggling with the Suns over Dixon.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: powersuperkents on October 17, 2015, 09:42:30 PM
Quote from: PowerBug on October 17, 2015, 09:38:17 PM
http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/afl-trades-four-club-trade-could-help-power-snare-jimmy-toumpas-charlie-dixon/story-fnp04d70-1227572793141

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Discussions are continuing over a complex deal which is set to deliver Toumpas to Port, Ben Kennedy from Collingwood to Melbourne, Jeremy Howe from Melbourne to Collingwood and Paul Seedsman from Collingwood to Adelaide.


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The Crows are understood to have offered pick 32 for Seedsman, and that pick is a key to the negotiations. It is likely to be passed on to Port, which would give up two draft picks for Toumpas and No. 32 and then be in a position to continue its haggling with the Suns over Dixon.
Sweet  ;D

It's sad we can't have it all (i.e. Andrew Moore won't be traded  :'( )
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Big Mac on October 17, 2015, 09:55:11 PM
Quote from: PowerBug on October 17, 2015, 09:38:17 PM
http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/afl-trades-four-club-trade-could-help-power-snare-jimmy-toumpas-charlie-dixon/story-fnp04d70-1227572793141

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Discussions are continuing over a complex deal which is set to deliver Toumpas to Port, Ben Kennedy from Collingwood to Melbourne, Jeremy Howe from Melbourne to Collingwood and Paul Seedsman from Collingwood to Adelaide.


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The Crows are understood to have offered pick 32 for Seedsman, and that pick is a key to the negotiations. It is likely to be passed on to Port, which would give up two draft picks for Toumpas and No. 32 and then be in a position to continue its haggling with the Suns over Dixon.

Interesting - so something like this?

Melbourne
Out: Howe, Toumpas, pick 82
In: Pick 29, Kennedy, pick 50

Collingwood
Out: Kennedy, Seedsman
In: Howe, pick 82

Adelaide
Out: Pick 32
In: Seedsman

Port
Out: Pick 29, pick 50
In: Toumpas, pick 32
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: kilbluff1985 on October 17, 2015, 09:57:31 PM
so Pies might get Howe, Aish and Treloar? :o
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Ricochet on October 17, 2015, 10:02:47 PM
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on October 17, 2015, 09:57:31 PM
so Pies might get Howe, Aish and Treloar? :o
Well yeh, that's been their goal all trade period
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: PowerBug on October 17, 2015, 10:09:30 PM
Quote from: Big  Mac on October 17, 2015, 09:55:11 PM
Quote from: PowerBug on October 17, 2015, 09:38:17 PM
http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/afl-trades-four-club-trade-could-help-power-snare-jimmy-toumpas-charlie-dixon/story-fnp04d70-1227572793141

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Discussions are continuing over a complex deal which is set to deliver Toumpas to Port, Ben Kennedy from Collingwood to Melbourne, Jeremy Howe from Melbourne to Collingwood and Paul Seedsman from Collingwood to Adelaide.


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The Crows are understood to have offered pick 32 for Seedsman, and that pick is a key to the negotiations. It is likely to be passed on to Port, which would give up two draft picks for Toumpas and No. 32 and then be in a position to continue its haggling with the Suns over Dixon.

Interesting - so something like this?

Melbourne
Out: Howe, Toumpas, pick 82
In: Pick 29, Kennedy, pick 50

Collingwood
Out: Kennedy, Seedsman
In: Howe, pick 82

Adelaide
Out: Pick 32
In: Seedsman

Port
Out: Pick 10, pick 29, pick 50
In: Toumpas, Dixon

Gold Coast:
Out: Dixon
In: pick 10, pick 32


And then 32 likely goes on to the Suns to get Dixon, added that part into the quote :)
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: GoLions on October 17, 2015, 10:20:13 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on October 17, 2015, 10:02:47 PM
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on October 17, 2015, 09:57:31 PM
so Pies might get Howe, Aish and Treloar? :o
Well yeh, that's been their goal all trade period
I heard North might get Aish, giving us Bastinac plus a sweetener
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: tbagrocks on October 17, 2015, 10:23:48 PM
Except for Adelaide's offer of pick #28 for Jimmy Toumpas ;)

Why the fridge wouldn't they? ??? They are happy to pay overs for a former #76 draft pick and receive unders for a #27 pick (Kerridge) Why not bring in a skilful local boy? ???
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Pkbaldy on October 17, 2015, 10:24:22 PM
Quote from: GoLions on October 17, 2015, 10:20:13 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on October 17, 2015, 10:02:47 PM
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on October 17, 2015, 09:57:31 PM
so Pies might get Howe, Aish and Treloar? :o
Well yeh, that's been their goal all trade period
I heard North might get Aish, giving us Bastinac plus a sweetener

Aish the girl has 0 interest in joining North. Apparently will only go to Collingwood
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: powersuperkents on October 17, 2015, 10:44:09 PM
Quote from: tbagrocks on October 17, 2015, 10:23:48 PM
Except for Adelaide's offer of pick #28 for Jimmy Toumpas ;)

Why the fridge wouldn't they? ??? They are happy to pay overs for a former #76 draft pick and receive unders for a #27 pick (Kerridge) Why not bring in a skilful local boy? ???
Because Jimmy T won't want to waste more of his career at the Crows  :P
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: TomK on October 17, 2015, 10:44:21 PM
Quote from: tbagrocks on October 17, 2015, 10:23:48 PM
They are happy to pay overs for a former #76 draft pick boy? ???
Hahah why does his draft position matter now? We should just trade Sloane for pick 44 then
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: TomK on October 17, 2015, 10:47:19 PM
Quote from: powersuperkents on October 17, 2015, 10:44:09 PM
Quote from: tbagrocks on October 17, 2015, 10:23:48 PM
Except for Adelaide's offer of pick #28 for Jimmy Toumpas ;)

Why the fridge wouldn't they? ??? They are happy to pay overs for a former #76 draft pick and receive unders for a #27 pick (Kerridge) Why not bring in a skilful local boy? ???
Because Jimmy T won't want to waste more of his career at the Crows  :P
Or we just don't want to waste our time on a spud? ;)
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: tbagrocks on October 17, 2015, 10:58:09 PM
Quote from: TomK on October 17, 2015, 10:44:21 PM
Quote from: tbagrocks on October 17, 2015, 10:23:48 PM
They are happy to pay overs for a former #76 draft pick boy? ???
Hahah why does his draft position matter now? We should just trade Sloane for pick 44 then
Nah im saying that if Seedsman who only played a dozen games this year commands a second rounder and then Kerridge, who has kicked 6 goals in a game and run with some of the best in the midfields and only gets a third rounder?

There is no way pick #38 will be better than Kerridge a former #27, not for years anyway

Something is a little skew whiff
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Mat0369 on October 17, 2015, 11:03:41 PM
Ummm, how many games did Kerridge play this year? I can also pick and choose one off games and add the fact Seed won the ANZAC day medal
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: powersuperkents on October 17, 2015, 11:06:44 PM
Quote from: TomK on October 17, 2015, 10:47:19 PM
Quote from: powersuperkents on October 17, 2015, 10:44:09 PM
Quote from: tbagrocks on October 17, 2015, 10:23:48 PM
Except for Adelaide's offer of pick #28 for Jimmy Toumpas ;)

Why the fridge wouldn't they? ??? They are happy to pay overs for a former #76 draft pick and receive unders for a #27 pick (Kerridge) Why not bring in a skilful local boy? ???
Because Jimmy T won't want to waste more of his career at the Crows  :P
Or we just don't want to waste our time on a spud? ;)
The latter  ;)

& Tbag, by that logic we would be giving the Dees pick 4 for Toumpas (no flowering way is he worth that!)
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: tbagrocks on October 17, 2015, 11:12:21 PM
Please stop trying to pretend 18 year old untried kids are better than guys who have competed at the top level
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Mat0369 on October 17, 2015, 11:31:15 PM
Cam Wood has experience at the top level but he isn't worth a half drunk can of coke
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: powersuperkents on October 17, 2015, 11:32:37 PM
Quote from: tbagrocks on October 17, 2015, 11:12:21 PM
Please stop trying to pretend 18 year old untried kids are better than guys who have competed at the top level
No they aren't, but they have the potential to be better than guys who have competed at the top level. There would be no point to the draft if people had your mentality.

Every flowering player at one point in their life was an untried kid. Seedsman is alright, but I can name around 30 kids in the draft who will probably be better than him within the next 5 years for so.

Conversely, not everyone who has competed at top level is good - that's the point of delistments. Jesse Hogan was  significantly better than a lot of players who had competed at the highest level... In his first game (so was Touk Miller, so is just about every debutant because it's the point of the flowering draft, sustainability is the key word).

A lot of the kids in this draft are already better than the bottom 10 on each team's list... (most of which have competed at top level). You cannot just form these subjective black and white opinions. Jake Lever was better in his first game than Kyle Cheney will ever be (they are Crows players so I think that's the best way for you to comprehend how incorrect that statement was) 
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: powersuperkents on October 17, 2015, 11:33:55 PM
Quote from: Mat0369 on October 17, 2015, 11:31:15 PM
Cam Wood has experience at the top level but he isn't worth a half drunk can of coke
Yeah what he's said doesn't make any sense. If it were true, the AFL would last the span of the first draftees (and then coaches would not draft again out of fear of recruiting "18 year old untried kids")
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: powersuperkents on October 17, 2015, 11:41:01 PM
Anyway Kerridge is worth a 3rd rounder at the most.

Injury prone and a bit of a spud - good for Carlton because he has experience tagging (however, why do you think he was the tagger at the Crows Tbag? It's a role designated to midfielders who aren't good enough to play a major role but are still athletic enough to be worth fielding - the tagger is usually the worst mid in the team except in the case of offensive or soft taggers, however Kerridge was a hard tagger).

Hard taggers are spuds - even Crowley was a spud midfielder until Ross Lyon made him tag 

Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: TomK on October 17, 2015, 11:52:28 PM
Kerridge can actually be a pretty damaging midfielder when let loose, spuds don't usually kick 6 goals and win the game for their team. He would've been getting games at the end of this season after his injury but we had too many players competing for the same spot and with the emergence of Knight, he couldn't get in.

Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Big Mac on October 17, 2015, 11:56:59 PM
Kyle Reimers kicked 8  :P ;)
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: TomK on October 18, 2015, 12:12:00 AM
Hahaha fair point
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: powersuperkents on October 18, 2015, 12:16:27 AM
Quote from: TomK on October 17, 2015, 11:52:28 PM
Kerridge can actually be a pretty damaging midfielder when let loose, spuds don't usually kick 6 goals and win the game for their team. He would've been getting games at the end of this season after his injury but we had too many players competing for the same spot and with the emergence of Knight, he couldn't get in.
Also another reason why a lot of players are forced to tag. Yeah that's probably why Kerridge was tagging (Danger, Thommo, & Sloane dominated the main midfield spots)
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Money Shot on October 18, 2015, 12:32:28 AM
Will Kerridige be in Carltons best 22? We already have curnow who is a good tagger. Maybe he could replace bell as a half forward who rotates through the mid?
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Toga on October 18, 2015, 12:34:40 AM
Quote from: Big  Mac on October 17, 2015, 11:56:59 PM
Kyle Reimers kicked 8  :P ;)

And he is a spud. A very big one actually
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Mat0369 on October 18, 2015, 12:36:49 AM
Quote from: Toga on October 18, 2015, 12:34:40 AM
And he is a spud. A very big one actually

I think I posted this before, but Kyle Reimers played in a local league premiership this year. His teammates included Brock McLean, Luke Blackwell, Josh Toy and Angus Graham.

Guess who won the medal for best on?  :P
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Big Mac on October 18, 2015, 12:49:41 AM
Quote from: Mat0369 on October 18, 2015, 12:36:49 AM
Quote from: Toga on October 18, 2015, 12:34:40 AM
And he is a spud. A very big one actually

I think I posted this before, but Kyle Reimers played in a local league premiership this year. His teammates included Brock McLean, Luke Blackwell, Josh Toy and Angus Graham.

Guess who won the medal for best on?  :P

Abers were crazy good this year, helps when you've got over half a million backing you though

Apparently Reimers is on 60k+
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Mat0369 on October 18, 2015, 12:54:54 AM
Quote from: Big  Mac on October 18, 2015, 12:49:41 AM
Abers were crazy good this year, helps when you've got over half a million backing you though

Apparently Reimers is on 60k+

They went undefeated and won both finals against Greenvale by huge margins.

That's pretty big money for local footy and considering he isn't even their best player.

And to answer the question a spud won the medal, Angus Graham  :-X
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: powersuperkents on October 18, 2015, 12:55:26 PM
"Four-way Power trade on the cards

Port Adelaide is attempting to seal a multi-club trade party to net Jimmy Toumpas and ultimately Charlie Dixon.

The Power are hoping to include Ben Kennedy's move to Melbourne, Jeremy Howe's shift to Collingwood and Paul Seedsman's trade to Adelaide in the deal.

The Sunday Mail says Port's interest in orchestrating the big trade remains real, with the Crows' offer of pick No.32 for Seedsman crucial to it standing up.

The Power would then receive the pick before giving it up â€" plus two more â€" for Toumpas, before they continued to barter for Dixon, who has been their priority this off-season.

There are more confusing working parts involved in the trade, with negotiations to continue this week."

Hopefully this works, I think all teams will be happy with this. The only potential problem I could foresee is the Gold Coast saying picks 10 & 32 are not enough for Dixon after the trade is completed - they will probably request a few of our starting players as well  :P
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Money Shot on October 18, 2015, 01:25:54 PM
Brissy are losing interest on Astbury apparently which is going to complicate Yarran getting to Richmond apparently!
As I've been saying for the past month Richmond's first pick next year for Yarran and both teams get what they want!
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: shaker on October 18, 2015, 01:53:50 PM
Quote from: Money Shot on October 18, 2015, 01:25:54 PM
Brissy are losing interest on Astbury apparently which is going to complicate Yarran getting to Richmond apparently!
As I've been saying for the past month Richmond's first pick next year for Yarran and both teams get what they want!

Its what Carlton wants MS but not what I want as a Tiger supporter it is not a sure thing the Tigers will finish as high as they did this year there are many teams who have snagged good players in the draft and teams on the up and a lot more competition for spots in the 8 next year I think so that would mean possibly coughing up a top 10 pick for a player who is lazy and inconsistent no thanks the tigers need to get there hands on a high 2nd round this year that is what he is worth IMO but I am not a fan  :P
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Money Shot on October 18, 2015, 02:04:35 PM
Quote from: shaker on October 18, 2015, 01:53:50 PM
Quote from: Money Shot on October 18, 2015, 01:25:54 PM
Brissy are losing interest on Astbury apparently which is going to complicate Yarran getting to Richmond apparently!
As I've been saying for the past month Richmond's first pick next year for Yarran and both teams get what they want!

Its what Carlton wants MS but not what I want as a Tiger supporter it is not a sure thing the Tigers will finish as high as they did this year there are many teams who have snagged good players in the draft and teams on the up and a lot more competition for spots in the 8 next year I think so that would mean possibly coughing up a top 10 pick for a player who is lazy and inconsistent no thanks the tigers need to get there hands on a high 2nd round this year that is what he is worth IMO but I am not a fan  :P
That's fair enough! Haha hopefully we can work something out!
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: PowerBug on October 18, 2015, 02:30:46 PM
Tigers get Yarran for 2016 first rounder. Tigers flop next year finishing 15th. Tiges just gave up Pick 4 ;D
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Big Mac on October 18, 2015, 02:35:06 PM
Quote from: powersuperkents on October 18, 2015, 12:55:26 PM
"Four-way Power trade on the cards

Port Adelaide is attempting to seal a multi-club trade party to net Jimmy Toumpas and ultimately Charlie Dixon.

The Power are hoping to include Ben Kennedy's move to Melbourne, Jeremy Howe's shift to Collingwood and Paul Seedsman's trade to Adelaide in the deal.

The Sunday Mail says Port's interest in orchestrating the big trade remains real, with the Crows' offer of pick No.32 for Seedsman crucial to it standing up.

The Power would then receive the pick before giving it up â€" plus two more â€" for Toumpas, before they continued to barter for Dixon, who has been their priority this off-season.

There are more confusing working parts involved in the trade, with negotiations to continue this week."

Hopefully this works, I think all teams will be happy with this. The only potential problem I could foresee is the Gold Coast saying picks 10 & 32 are not enough for Dixon after the trade is completed - they will probably request a few of our starting players as well  :P

Doesn't it say that the Power would give up pick 32 for Toumpas? So then they wouldn't be able to use it for Dixon
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: powersuperkents on October 18, 2015, 02:43:36 PM
Quote from: Big  Mac on October 18, 2015, 02:35:06 PM
Quote from: powersuperkents on October 18, 2015, 12:55:26 PM
"Four-way Power trade on the cards

Port Adelaide is attempting to seal a multi-club trade party to net Jimmy Toumpas and ultimately Charlie Dixon.

The Power are hoping to include Ben Kennedy's move to Melbourne, Jeremy Howe's shift to Collingwood and Paul Seedsman's trade to Adelaide in the deal.

The Sunday Mail says Port's interest in orchestrating the big trade remains real, with the Crows' offer of pick No.32 for Seedsman crucial to it standing up.

The Power would then receive the pick before giving it up â€" plus two more â€" for Toumpas, before they continued to barter for Dixon, who has been their priority this off-season.

There are more confusing working parts involved in the trade, with negotiations to continue this week."

Hopefully this works, I think all teams will be happy with this. The only potential problem I could foresee is the Gold Coast saying picks 10 & 32 are not enough for Dixon after the trade is completed - they will probably request a few of our starting players as well  :P

Doesn't it say that the Power would give up pick 32 for Toumpas? So then they wouldn't be able to use it for Dixon
I'm not sure, it's a confusing trade, but I think Melbourne get our 2nd rounder + Bennedy (and another pick)
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Mat0369 on October 18, 2015, 03:17:02 PM
Quote from: PowerBug on October 18, 2015, 02:30:46 PM
Tigers get Yarran for 2016 first rounder. Tigers flop next year finishing 15th. Tiges just gave up Pick 4 ;D

That's the plan. I am waiting for these future picks to blow up in clubs faces. Them thinking they are closer to a premiership then they actually are and then face planting the next season.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Money Shot on October 18, 2015, 03:56:36 PM
Quote from: Mat0369 on October 18, 2015, 03:17:02 PM
Quote from: PowerBug on October 18, 2015, 02:30:46 PM
Tigers get Yarran for 2016 first rounder. Tigers flop next year finishing 15th. Tiges just gave up Pick 4 ;D

That's the plan. I am waiting for these future picks to blow up in clubs faces. Them thinking they are closer to a premiership then they actually are and then face planting the next season.
Exactly right! I think tigers will be lucky to make the 8 next year but they along with there fans think they are a premiership contender so if they get Yarran and we get there first round next year I'll be happy!
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Mat0369 on October 18, 2015, 04:06:55 PM
Let's look at it this way, he is a former number 6 draft pick, he has elite foot skills and pace to burn, he will be 25 next year and heading into his prime, his best year was 2011 where he was potentially one of our most important players in a team that was a kick out of a prelim due to his pace and ball use out of the back half, his stats 12 months ago were not that far off 2011 (he kicked a crap load more goals and polled more Brownlow votes).

This year he was in a situation where he had a lot of off the field personal issues while also having lost his closest mates at the club. His headspace wasn't on footy and he needs a change. He is also contracted to the club so we hold the leverage in the trade. We want a first round pick and if we don't get it he will stay. Simple as that.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Money Shot on October 18, 2015, 04:11:17 PM
Quote from: Mat0369 on October 18, 2015, 04:06:55 PM
Let's look at it this way, he is a former number 6 draft pick, he has elite foot skills and pace to burn, he will be 25 next year and heading into his prime, his best year was 2011 where he was potentially one of our most important players in a team that was a kick out of a prelim due to his pace and ball use out of the back half, his stats 12 months ago were not that far off 2011 (he kicked a crap load more goals and polled more Brownlow votes).

This year he was in a situation where he had a lot of off the field personal issues while also having lost his closest mates at the club. His headspace wasn't on footy and he needs a change. He is also contracted to the club so we hold the leverage in the trade. We want a first round pick and if we don't get it he will stay. Simple as that.
Exactly right! And although I don't believe he is worth pick 12 he won't be going for there second round pick. So Richmond at this stage have to give it up, take a punt hoping they'll finish at a higher position next year and gives next years first round or not get him.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Grazz on October 18, 2015, 04:19:10 PM
To be honest I hope for the Blue's sake he can stay, a new coach hopefully any bad blood can be washed away between him and the club if it can't then naturally you're better off parting ways but if things can be repaired and Yaz feels comfortable with it all and Bolton he's the sort of player you'd want to be in your team, his best footy is very good.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Mat0369 on October 18, 2015, 04:45:42 PM
I would honestly love for him to stay. From what I gather there's more going on which is why he wants out and I can respect that. I also think that the best place for his footy would be the Hawks due to the environment and Ratts connection. The second best spot for him to go is the Crows due to the Eddie factor but you guys are going for Seedsman.

I know you can say players earn X amount of money they should harden up in some aspects, but I feel for Yaz. He's had a lot go on outside of footy the last 12 months
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: JBs-Hawks on October 18, 2015, 06:09:15 PM
Would give either of our first rounders for yaz in a heartbeat if we can get Carlisle
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: shaker on October 18, 2015, 07:54:52 PM
Quote from: Mat0369 on October 18, 2015, 04:45:42 PM
I would honestly love for him to stay. From what I gather there's more going on which is why he wants out and I can respect that. I also think that the best place for his footy would be the Hawks due to the environment and Ratts connection. The second best spot for him to go is the Crows due to the Eddie factor but you guys are going for Seedsman.

I know you can say players earn X amount of money they should harden up in some aspects, but I feel for Yaz. He's had a lot go on outside of footy the last 12 months


I hope for your sake he stays and not end up at the Tiges I would not even be happy handing over a 2nd round for him he is lazy inconsistent and has a very bad attitude 3 coaches could not get him the best out of him and a leopard does not change its spots where ever he ends up it will be the last stop in his career I think before every club realizes he is just not worth the effort
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: H1bb3i2d on October 18, 2015, 08:52:00 PM
Tom Browne reporting that Essendon are essentially offering Carlisle and a 3rd rounder for pick 5.

FWIW, on points that values Jake at around pick 10. However, yes after pick 30 this draft thins off more than usual so a pick in the 40s is worth less. And yes, while I think this deal is spot on (and always have), I know I have Essendon bias.

JC + 23 + 25 for 5 was ridiculous, everyone but one-eyed Saints fans thought so too.

That's why Carlisle and 25 for 5 is the deal that needs to get done. Even Blind Freddy could see this. Neither party will accept anything either side of it, both will feel they could have got a bit more, etc. It's a perfect middle ground. I hope both Dodo and Bains don't hold their egos too high in this and just get it done soon!
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Ricochet on October 18, 2015, 09:19:53 PM
From what I've read the draft is pretty equal from 14-15ish through to 38-40ish. Then it drops off

Carlisle + N25 for N5 should get the deal done
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Pkbaldy on October 18, 2015, 09:21:21 PM
I'm with you Hibberd. Now with asshole Hawks in the mix, we have to lose on pick 5. 5 for JC + 25 is a pretty good option for both clubs. Then hopefully we can cash in on 24 and 25 for 14 off Sydney ( Gives them extra points to use on Mills + Dunkley ). Use Pick 14 to get a decent U18 and use next years 2nd rounder to secure Freeman (No idea why this hasn't been done yet...)
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: kilbluff1985 on October 18, 2015, 09:22:59 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on October 18, 2015, 09:19:53 PM
From what I've read the draft is pretty equal from 14-15ish through to 38-40ish. Then it drops off

Carlisle + N25 for N5 should get the deal done

would be satisfied with that

Saints ship 25 to Pies for Freeman and it's a good result for them
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: H1bb3i2d on October 18, 2015, 09:25:32 PM
Quote from: Pkbaldy on October 18, 2015, 09:21:21 PM
I'm with you Hibberd. Now with asshole Hawks in the mix, we have to lose on pick 5. 5 for JC + 25 is a pretty good option for both clubs. Then hopefully we can cash in on 24 and 25 for 14 off Sydney ( Gives them extra points to use on Mills + Dunkley ). Use Pick 14 to get a decent U18 and use next years 2nd rounder to secure Freeman (No idea why this hasn't been done yet...)


Quote from: kilbluff1985 on October 18, 2015, 09:22:59 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on October 18, 2015, 09:19:53 PM
From what I've read the draft is pretty equal from 14-15ish through to 38-40ish. Then it drops off

Carlisle + N25 for N5 should get the deal done

would be satisfied with that

Saints ship 25 to Pies for Freeman and it's a good result for them


^^^^^ It's also the only deal that I've seen (at least some) supporters of both teams agree on! I think that says it all, really.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Pkbaldy on October 18, 2015, 09:26:11 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on October 18, 2015, 09:19:53 PM
From what I've read the draft is pretty equal from 14-15ish through to 38-40ish. Then it drops off

Carlisle + N25 for N5 should get the deal done

I wouldn't go that shallow mate. The tier break ups to me looks a bit like this;
Pick 1-2 - Top 5  talent
Pick 3-7 - Top 10 talent
Pick 8-15  Top 15 talent
Pick 16-30 Best 22 talent

Obviously there are a few gems after 30... But they'd be risky. eg. Keiran Lovell.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: kilbluff1985 on October 18, 2015, 09:38:51 PM
i wonder if Saints would take next years 2nd rounder instead

then we can still get 8 :P
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Mat0369 on October 18, 2015, 10:39:06 PM
Quote from: shaker on October 18, 2015, 07:54:52 PM
I hope for your sake he stays and not end up at the Tiges I would not even be happy handing over a 2nd round for him he is lazy inconsistent and has a very bad attitude 3 coaches could not get him the best out of him and a leopard does not change its spots where ever he ends up it will be the last stop in his career I think before every club realizes he is just not worth the effort

This is completely false. Ratten got the best out of Yaz before Yarran struggled to recover from a hip and chronic hamstring and toe injuries in 2012. The fact we had so little to choose from at one point in terms of fit players meant we had to play anyone we could get on the park, even if they weren't 100%

He then was played out of position by Malthouse in 2013 and had a pretty good year in 2014 overall when you look at his numbers. As I said, he has had a lot of stuff going on off the field so he checked out this year. He would instantly be one of Richmond's best users by foot and your best rebounding defender. If they want him it will be for next years first.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Nige on October 18, 2015, 10:46:23 PM
Quote from: Money Shot on October 18, 2015, 03:56:36 PM
Quote from: Mat0369 on October 18, 2015, 03:17:02 PM
Quote from: PowerBug on October 18, 2015, 02:30:46 PM
Tigers get Yarran for 2016 first rounder. Tigers flop next year finishing 15th. Tiges just gave up Pick 4 ;D

That's the plan. I am waiting for these future picks to blow up in clubs faces. Them thinking they are closer to a premiership then they actually are and then face planting the next season.
Exactly right! I think tigers will be lucky to make the 8 next year but they along with there fans think they are a premiership contender so if they get Yarran and we get there first round next year I'll be happy!
This is the biggest load of shower I've heard, not surprised it's come from a Carlton supporter either.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Pkbaldy on October 18, 2015, 10:51:22 PM
Quote from: Nige on October 18, 2015, 10:46:23 PM
Quote from: Money Shot on October 18, 2015, 03:56:36 PM
Quote from: Mat0369 on October 18, 2015, 03:17:02 PM
Quote from: PowerBug on October 18, 2015, 02:30:46 PM
Tigers get Yarran for 2016 first rounder. Tigers flop next year finishing 15th. Tiges just gave up Pick 4 ;D

That's the plan. I am waiting for these future picks to blow up in clubs faces. Them thinking they are closer to a premiership then they actually are and then face planting the next season.
Exactly right! I think tigers will be lucky to make the 8 next year but they along with there fans think they are a premiership contender so if they get Yarran and we get there first round next year I'll be happy!
This is the biggest load of shower I've heard, not surprised it's come from a Carlton supporter either.

Richmond aren't too far off a premiership, I'd put them at 4th-5th next year... If they get that 2nd chance i'd back them to make the granny next year.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: JBs-Hawks on October 18, 2015, 10:59:35 PM
Quote from: Nige on October 18, 2015, 10:46:23 PM
Quote from: Money Shot on October 18, 2015, 03:56:36 PM
Quote from: Mat0369 on October 18, 2015, 03:17:02 PM
Quote from: PowerBug on October 18, 2015, 02:30:46 PM
Tigers get Yarran for 2016 first rounder. Tigers flop next year finishing 15th. Tiges just gave up Pick 4 ;D

That's the plan. I am waiting for these future picks to blow up in clubs faces. Them thinking they are closer to a premiership then they actually are and then face planting the next season.
Exactly right! I think tigers will be lucky to make the 8 next year but they along with there fans think they are a premiership contender so if they get Yarran and we get there first round next year I'll be happy!
This is the biggest load of shower I've heard, not surprised it's come from a Carlton supporter either.

They should make finals, but are also a chance at just missing out.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: powersuperkents on October 18, 2015, 11:15:12 PM
Quote from: JBs-Hawks on October 18, 2015, 10:59:35 PM
Quote from: Nige on October 18, 2015, 10:46:23 PM
Quote from: Money Shot on October 18, 2015, 03:56:36 PM
Quote from: Mat0369 on October 18, 2015, 03:17:02 PM
Quote from: PowerBug on October 18, 2015, 02:30:46 PM
Tigers get Yarran for 2016 first rounder. Tigers flop next year finishing 15th. Tiges just gave up Pick 4 ;D

That's the plan. I am waiting for these future picks to blow up in clubs faces. Them thinking they are closer to a premiership then they actually are and then face planting the next season.
Exactly right! I think tigers will be lucky to make the 8 next year but they along with there fans think they are a premiership contender so if they get Yarran and we get there first round next year I'll be happy!
This is the biggest load of shower I've heard, not surprised it's come from a Carlton supporter either.

They should make finals, but are also a chance at just missing out.
In terms of quality, Richmond a one of a few select clubs that can convincing outplay Hawthorn (the team that outplays teams). Freo, Nth Melbourne, Adelaide, & the Bulldogs cannot do that (out of the other finals clubs), arguably at any point in the foreseeable future.

In terms of playing quality I rate Richmond quite highly. In terms of consistency, they can be quite shocking. I definitely see them in the top 8 (no way they will miss out), the question is where in the top 8 will they finish (the club is still prone to poor form and the occasional fading in games - obviously they still choke in finals football as well (winning a final will be the next big step for the club, unless they make the top 4 which will be a bigger step forward)
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Torpedo10 on October 18, 2015, 11:21:09 PM
Richmond need an enforcer other than Steven Morris, Cotch as an inspirational team man is all well and good but they need him to develop some Selwood traits, other than the ducking of course.   :P
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: powersuperkents on October 18, 2015, 11:30:27 PM
Quote from: Torpedo10 on October 18, 2015, 11:21:09 PM
Richmond need an enforcer other than Steven Morris, Cotch as an inspirational team man is all well and good but they need him to develop some Selwood traits, other than the ducking of course.   :P
Yeah Morris is a spud (still contributes in the same way as Zac Dawson - i.e. plays his role). Cotchin really needs to stand up, I imagine it will take a while for him to regain the confidence of the Richmond faithful.

They really need an outside mid and I don't know why they don't fork up their first rounder for Yarran (really see the team taking big steps forward with him - although disciplinary issues and off-field conduct could be potential problems)
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: meow meow on October 18, 2015, 11:34:29 PM
Pretty sure that they recruited Townsend to be Cotchin's bodyguard.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Toga on October 18, 2015, 11:36:21 PM
Quote from: meow meow on October 18, 2015, 11:34:29 PM
Pretty sure that they recruited Townsend to be Cotchin's bodyguard.

This. Richmond has lacked a bigger body to bring the bash and crash to taggers since the great man Shane Tuck retired!
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: meow meow on October 18, 2015, 11:46:52 PM
Townsend is probably the scariest/most brutal player in the AFL at the moment. He's like JZ but he hurts his opponents instead of himself.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Toga on October 18, 2015, 11:47:44 PM
Haha who has he hurt? Haven't heard about this :P
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: My Chumps on October 19, 2015, 01:53:10 AM
Quote from: Toga on October 18, 2015, 11:47:44 PM
Haha who has he hurt? Haven't heard about this :P
http://www.gwsgiants.com.au/video/2014-04-12/highlight-townsend-the-wrecking-ball (http://www.gwsgiants.com.au/video/2014-04-12/highlight-townsend-the-wrecking-ball)

He goes hard.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Toga on October 19, 2015, 11:01:45 AM
Quote from: My Chumps on October 19, 2015, 01:53:10 AM
Quote from: Toga on October 18, 2015, 11:47:44 PM
Haha who has he hurt? Haven't heard about this :P
http://www.gwsgiants.com.au/video/2014-04-12/highlight-townsend-the-wrecking-ball (http://www.gwsgiants.com.au/video/2014-04-12/highlight-townsend-the-wrecking-ball)

He goes hard.

I like it 8)
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Ricochet on October 19, 2015, 11:33:23 AM
Tom Bell has been traded to Brissie

Bell + 41 for 21 + 60
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Big Mac on October 19, 2015, 11:34:58 AM
Bell for 21 wasn't good enough?

We really did overpay for Melksham  :(
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Ringo on October 19, 2015, 11:51:50 AM
Reckon this means we will dealing with Pies for Aish as we need that second round pick to secure academy players although we have 39, 41 and 42 to use as well as 17 which will help.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Ricochet on October 19, 2015, 11:53:11 AM
Quote from: Big  Mac on October 19, 2015, 11:34:58 AM
Bell for 21 wasn't good enough?

We really did overpay for Melksham  :(
They give an upgrade on a later pick though so makes Bell about what, 25-30ish?
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Ringo on October 19, 2015, 11:55:24 AM
Reports Stevie J will sign with GWS.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Purple 77 on October 19, 2015, 11:57:22 AM
Quote from: Ricochet on October 19, 2015, 11:53:11 AM
Quote from: Big  Mac on October 19, 2015, 11:34:58 AM
Bell for 21 wasn't good enough?

We really did overpay for Melksham  :(
They give an upgrade on a later pick though so makes Bell about what, 25-30ish?

I'd much rather Bell than Smells Ham though  :(

Kinda feel like Brisbane got a good deal there.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Toga on October 19, 2015, 11:58:22 AM
I feel like Brisbane got a good deal there as well, that's for sure
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Ringo on October 19, 2015, 12:00:52 PM
very happy with that - Replacement for Redden and can kick goals. Welcome home Tom.  Although he is an outside mid.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Ricochet on October 19, 2015, 12:05:34 PM
And another one

Jansen and Josh Walker traded to Brissie for a future 3rd round pick
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Ringo on October 19, 2015, 12:05:50 PM
Brisbane have still not received an official offer for Aish from Pies
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: powersuperkents on October 19, 2015, 12:23:17 PM
I thought Carlton needed the Bell picks because of all the father/son recruits in this draft (same rules as academy picks).

Good work Brisbane. They need a key forward like Walker (he is a spud but he can still play the role they need filled so that's a win). Jansen & Bell are good gets, an inside & outside mid - both are physically huge as well.

Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Purple 77 on October 19, 2015, 12:26:29 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on October 19, 2015, 12:05:34 PM
And another one

Jansen and Josh Walker traded to Brissie for a future 3rd round pick

Phwoah, another steal I reckon! Even considering those guys are unproven.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: powersuperkents on October 19, 2015, 12:31:51 PM
"But reports suggest both players could be involved in a mega-trade to deliver all parties a fair outcome.
In the deal, Port Adelaide would trade its pick 10 and likely a future first-round selection to St Kilda for pick 5. The Saints would hand over pick 10 for Carlisle, and Port would give pick No.5 to the Suns for Dixon."

Bullshower this is a 'fair outcome'. We are still giving up two first rounders for Dixon...

I hope this doesn't eventuate, but our recruiter is not that stupid (they use the word 'fair' because it works out for the two Victorian teams - St Kilda has been more stubborn than Essendon in regards to this trade, excluding the Billings request, and it better not spill over and force us to pay overs. If we wait, the Suns will take a pick 10 for Dixon trade on the second last-to-last day once they realise they are not getting better than that or we add a 3rd-4th rounder).

I don't understand, we are willing to pay pick 10 for Dixon and people claim it's fair (I agree with that)

The Saints aren't willing to trade pick 5 for Carlisle (arguably his effing worth) even thought he's significantly more proven than Dixon.

I didn't really care, but if they try looking to us for a 4-way trade, I won't be happy if the Power gets involved with these two clubs - the Suns have already been bad enough (and at this point it looks as though they are trying to make up the difference for the Bennell trade - which they can only blame themselves for receiving significant unders after publicly shaming the kid before the trade period).
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Ricochet on October 19, 2015, 12:48:20 PM
Quote from: Ringo on October 19, 2015, 11:55:24 AM
Reports Stevie J will sign with GWS.
Yep the Age confirming this now. a 1 year playing deal with a coaching contract after that
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Ringo on October 19, 2015, 12:56:29 PM
Quote from: Purple 77 on October 19, 2015, 12:26:29 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on October 19, 2015, 12:05:34 PM
And another one

Jansen and Josh Walker traded to Brissie for a future 3rd round pick

Phwoah, another steal I reckon! Even considering those guys are unproven.
as I said in Brisbane thread future Round 3 pick is a virtual packet of chips for Walker and Jansen. Getting these three is a win for us but hope we still have enough points to get both Hipwood and Keays.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Spite on October 19, 2015, 12:56:51 PM
Quote from: Ringo on October 19, 2015, 12:05:50 PM
Brisbane have still not received an official offer for Aish from Pies

Tbh I think that deal is third in line after the Howe one.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Pkbaldy on October 19, 2015, 01:23:37 PM
Quote from: powersuperkents on October 19, 2015, 12:31:51 PM
"But reports suggest both players could be involved in a mega-trade to deliver all parties a fair outcome.
In the deal, Port Adelaide would trade its pick 10 and likely a future first-round selection to St Kilda for pick 5. The Saints would hand over pick 10 for Carlisle, and Port would give pick No.5 to the Suns for Dixon."

Bullshower this is a 'fair outcome'. We are still giving up two first rounders for Dixon...

I hope this doesn't eventuate, but our recruiter is not that stupid (they use the word 'fair' because it works out for the two Victorian teams - St Kilda has been more stubborn than Essendon in regards to this trade, excluding the Billings request, and it better not spill over and force us to pay overs. If we wait, the Suns will take a pick 10 for Dixon trade on the second last-to-last day once they realise they are not getting better than that or we add a 3rd-4th rounder).

I don't understand, we are willing to pay pick 10 for Dixon and people claim it's fair (I agree with that)

The Saints aren't willing to trade pick 5 for Carlisle (arguably his effing worth) even thought he's significantly more proven than Dixon.

I didn't really care, but if they try looking to us for a 4-way trade, I won't be happy if the Power gets involved with these two clubs - the Suns have already been bad enough (and at this point it looks as though they are trying to make up the difference for the Bennell trade - which they can only blame themselves for receiving significant unders after publicly shaming the kid before the trade period).

Wait.. If that trade went through that means we'd get Carlisle + First Rounder 2016 for Pick 5? Surely Port won't agree to that? They'd just give the Suns the 2 first rounders? UNLESS they want more than 2 first rounders?? :S Because they don't think 10 and 2016 First Rounder (Pick 12-15 I reckon) is enough for Dixon?? O.o... But if we pull this off Bains is a flowering god.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Mat0369 on October 19, 2015, 02:01:27 PM
Quote from: Ringo on October 19, 2015, 12:00:52 PM
very happy with that - Replacement for Redden and can kick goals. Welcome home Tom.  Although he is an outside mid.

He isn't an outside mid, he's a combo guy that can hit the scoreboard. We played him as a half forward all year out of necessity, but the man is a beast

Quote from: powersuperkents on October 19, 2015, 12:23:17 PM
I thought Carlton needed the Bell picks because of all the father/son recruits in this draft (same rules as academy picks)

Unfortunately Rice has picked the Saints and it looks like we might be able to get Silvagni with a later pick. I think we just wanted to get the deal done because of the circumstances with Bell's dad.

There's also a new rule at Carlton, if I like you as a player you're either traded or delisted. If you're horrible we give you a long term contract
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: elephants on October 19, 2015, 02:04:32 PM
flower me, Robinson and Bell in the same midfield simply isn't safe. You'd be inclined to play a reserves midfield against them in order to avoid serious injury to first team players! :P
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Mat0369 on October 19, 2015, 02:14:47 PM
That should be our midfield  :'(
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Ricochet on October 19, 2015, 02:15:37 PM
Zac Smith has been traded to Geelong for 49 & 53
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Ricochet on October 19, 2015, 02:20:42 PM
and now N53 moved on to North for Currie
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Purple 77 on October 19, 2015, 02:31:08 PM
Apparently Trade Radio said about 90 mins ago that Melbourne were talking with the Suns in a deal that would get us Pick 3...

Interesting.

Apparently we are in love with Darcy Parish.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: SydneyRox on October 19, 2015, 02:58:48 PM
Quote from: Purple 77 on October 19, 2015, 02:31:08 PM
Apparently Trade Radio said about 90 mins ago that Melbourne were talking with the Suns in a deal that would get us Pick 3...

Interesting.

Apparently we are in love with Darcy Parish.

Hopefully means they will just pick him at 3 and not make swans pay 3 for mills
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: AaronKirk on October 19, 2015, 03:39:50 PM
Quote from: Purple 77 on October 19, 2015, 02:31:08 PM
Apparently Trade Radio said about 90 mins ago that Melbourne were talking with the Suns in a deal that would get us Pick 3...

Interesting.

Apparently we are in love with Darcy Parish.

They wanted last week to give pick 6 + Howe to the Suns for pick 3 .

But Howe doesn't want to go to the Suns.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Purple 77 on October 19, 2015, 03:47:57 PM
Quote from: AaronKirk on October 19, 2015, 03:39:50 PM
Quote from: Purple 77 on October 19, 2015, 02:31:08 PM
Apparently Trade Radio said about 90 mins ago that Melbourne were talking with the Suns in a deal that would get us Pick 3...

Interesting.

Apparently we are in love with Darcy Parish.

They wanted last week to give pick 6 + Howe to the Suns for pick 3 .

But Howe doesn't want to go to the Suns.

Exactly. Which just makes me more intrigued to what might be brewing, if Howe isn't a part of it.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Pkbaldy on October 19, 2015, 03:51:43 PM
Quote from: Purple 77 on October 19, 2015, 03:47:57 PM
Quote from: AaronKirk on October 19, 2015, 03:39:50 PM
Quote from: Purple 77 on October 19, 2015, 02:31:08 PM
Apparently Trade Radio said about 90 mins ago that Melbourne were talking with the Suns in a deal that would get us Pick 3...

Interesting.

Apparently we are in love with Darcy Parish.

They wanted last week to give pick 6 + Howe to the Suns for pick 3 .

But Howe doesn't want to go to the Suns.

Exactly. Which just makes me more intrigued to what might be brewing, if Howe isn't a part of it.

6 and Melksham for 3?? ;)
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Purple 77 on October 19, 2015, 03:55:58 PM
Quote from: Pkbaldy on October 19, 2015, 03:51:43 PM
Quote from: Purple 77 on October 19, 2015, 03:47:57 PM
Quote from: AaronKirk on October 19, 2015, 03:39:50 PM
Quote from: Purple 77 on October 19, 2015, 02:31:08 PM
Apparently Trade Radio said about 90 mins ago that Melbourne were talking with the Suns in a deal that would get us Pick 3...

Interesting.

Apparently we are in love with Darcy Parish.

They wanted last week to give pick 6 + Howe to the Suns for pick 3 .

But Howe doesn't want to go to the Suns.

Exactly. Which just makes me more intrigued to what might be brewing, if Howe isn't a part of it.

6 and Melksham for 3?? ;)

Is that even a question? :P
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Big Mac on October 19, 2015, 04:18:13 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on October 19, 2015, 11:53:11 AM
Quote from: Big  Mac on October 19, 2015, 11:34:58 AM
Bell for 21 wasn't good enough?

We really did overpay for Melksham  :(
They give an upgrade on a later pick though so makes Bell about what, 25-30ish?

Yeh that was my point :(

We paid about the same for Melksham but I would much rather Bell
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: AaronKirk on October 19, 2015, 04:22:08 PM
Quote from: Big  Mac on October 19, 2015, 04:18:13 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on October 19, 2015, 11:53:11 AM
Quote from: Big  Mac on October 19, 2015, 11:34:58 AM
Bell for 21 wasn't good enough?

We really did overpay for Melksham  :(
They give an upgrade on a later pick though so makes Bell about what, 25-30ish?

Yeh that was my point :(

We paid about the same for Melksham but I would much rather Bell

Bell did go to Brisbane for family reasons which is why Carlton accepted less than what he was worth.

Would have cost Melbourne a 1st round pick to get him.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Grazz on October 19, 2015, 06:05:02 PM
Quote from: AaronKirk on October 19, 2015, 04:22:08 PM
Quote from: Big  Mac on October 19, 2015, 04:18:13 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on October 19, 2015, 11:53:11 AM
Quote from: Big  Mac on October 19, 2015, 11:34:58 AM
Bell for 21 wasn't good enough?

We really did overpay for Melksham  :(
They give an upgrade on a later pick though so makes Bell about what, 25-30ish?

Yeh that was my point :(

We paid about the same for Melksham but I would much rather Bell

Bell did go to Brisbane for family reasons which is why Carlton accepted less than what he was worth.

Would have cost Melbourne a 1st round pick to get him.

Whats up with Bell's Dad I haven't read anything regarding it, is he unwell ?
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Ricochet on October 19, 2015, 06:07:38 PM
Brett Anderson tweeting this 4way will be confirmed

Melb get: Kennedy, 29 (PA), 50 (PA)
Coll get: Howe, 68 (PA)
Port get: Toumpas, 32 (Adel)
Adel get: Seedsman
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: PowerBug on October 19, 2015, 06:13:43 PM
So does that mean we've essentially got Toumpas for around the value of pick 45? I don't mind that one
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: meow meow on October 19, 2015, 06:18:40 PM
Quote from: Grazz on October 19, 2015, 06:05:02 PM
Quote from: AaronKirk on October 19, 2015, 04:22:08 PM
Quote from: Big  Mac on October 19, 2015, 04:18:13 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on October 19, 2015, 11:53:11 AM
Quote from: Big  Mac on October 19, 2015, 11:34:58 AM
Bell for 21 wasn't good enough?

We really did overpay for Melksham  :(
They give an upgrade on a later pick though so makes Bell about what, 25-30ish?

Yeh that was my point :(

We paid about the same for Melksham but I would much rather Bell

Bell did go to Brisbane for family reasons which is why Carlton accepted less than what he was worth.

Would have cost Melbourne a 1st round pick to get him.

Whats up with Bell's Dad I haven't read anything regarding it, is he unwell ?

Bell's mother is deceased and his dad has cancer. He has teenage siblings. They live about 3 km from the Gabba.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: powersuperkents on October 19, 2015, 06:28:22 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on October 19, 2015, 06:07:38 PM
Brett Anderson tweeting this 4way will be confirmed

Melb get: Kennedy, 29 (PA), 50 (PA)
Coll get: Howe, 68 (PA)
Port get: Toumpas, 32 (Adel)
Adel get: Seedsman
;D

I'm starting to think Hinkley hates draft picks hahaha

I guess 10 & 32 will be traded to the GCS. Those unreasonable hacks better accept it
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Ricochet on October 19, 2015, 06:43:28 PM
Amazing how quickly players lose value. Toump in the above and now Giles

WCE trade N57
ESS trade Giles + N62
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Money Shot on October 19, 2015, 06:53:35 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on October 19, 2015, 06:43:28 PM
Amazing how quickly players lose value. Toump in the above and now Giles

WCE trade N57
ESS trade Giles + N62
So they are pretty much giving him away :P
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Toga on October 19, 2015, 06:55:28 PM
So Port pretty much getting Toumpas for free. He hasn't shown much but got to be worth a punt given what they are giving up...
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: nas on October 19, 2015, 06:55:43 PM
Quote from: Money Shot on October 19, 2015, 06:53:35 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on October 19, 2015, 06:43:28 PM
Amazing how quickly players lose value. Toump in the above and now Giles

WCE trade N57
ESS trade Giles + N62
So they are pretty much giving him away :P

More Frequent Flyer points
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Purple 77 on October 19, 2015, 06:56:17 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on October 19, 2015, 06:07:38 PM
Brett Anderson tweeting this 4way will be confirmed

Melb get: Kennedy, 29 (PA), 50 (PA)
Coll get: Howe, 68 (PA)
Port get: Toumpas, 32 (Adel)
Adel get: Seedsman

Absolutely filthy, if that is true. We should be getting two second rounders, at least.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: RaisyDaisy on October 19, 2015, 07:02:40 PM
Was against us chasing Giles, but for 57 LOL no problems! Welcome aboard!

Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: elephants on October 19, 2015, 07:19:29 PM
Stoked with getting Giles and even more stoked at the price tag!
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Ricochet on October 19, 2015, 07:35:51 PM
So many trades already this year and we've still got plenty of time
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Nige on October 19, 2015, 07:36:35 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on October 19, 2015, 07:35:51 PM
So many trades already this year and we've still got plenty of time
Wait for the random ones in the last couple of days, they're my favourite.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Big Mac on October 19, 2015, 07:48:53 PM
And it's confirmed

Melbourne FC ‏@melbournefc  21m21 minutes ago
CONFIRMED TRADE
IN: Ben Kennedy, picks 29+50
OUT: Jeremy Howe (Collingwood),  Jimmy Toumpas (Port Adelaide)
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: kilbluff1985 on October 19, 2015, 07:51:31 PM
good luck to Toumpas getting a game lol
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: TomK on October 19, 2015, 07:59:55 PM
Both SA teams won that trade while Melbourne got absolutely shafted
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Ricochet on October 19, 2015, 08:05:54 PM
depends how you look at it i guess
Kennedy = Toump?
Howe = 29 + 50
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Money Shot on October 19, 2015, 08:09:42 PM
I don't think melbourne did that poorly ... Toumpas is shower anyways so it's pretty much Kennedy and 29 for Howe and Toumpas for 50! That doesn't seem that bad to me!
Kennedy is a good player! I rate him highly
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Dudge on October 19, 2015, 08:21:35 PM
Just ignore my posts today, but Jimmy's gunna kick some butt 8)

Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Purple 77 on October 19, 2015, 08:23:23 PM
Great. Another ordinary deal for melbourne, that's two from two.


It might not turn out to be that bad... it's just, we could have done better.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Purple 77 on October 19, 2015, 08:24:28 PM
Quote from: Dudge on October 19, 2015, 08:21:35 PM
Just ignore my posts today, but Jimmy's gunna kick some butt 8)

This is also quoted now, ready to be brought up in the appropriate time in the future :P

But I suppose you're expectations would be lower, seeing as you didn't pay Pick 4 for that spud
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Grazz on October 19, 2015, 08:25:07 PM
Quote from: meow meow on October 19, 2015, 06:18:40 PM
Quote from: Grazz on October 19, 2015, 06:05:02 PM
Quote from: AaronKirk on October 19, 2015, 04:22:08 PM
Quote from: Big  Mac on October 19, 2015, 04:18:13 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on October 19, 2015, 11:53:11 AM
Quote from: Big  Mac on October 19, 2015, 11:34:58 AM
Bell for 21 wasn't good enough?

We really did overpay for Melksham  :(
They give an upgrade on a later pick though so makes Bell about what, 25-30ish?

Yeh that was my point :(

We paid about the same for Melksham but I would much rather Bell

Bell did go to Brisbane for family reasons which is why Carlton accepted less than what he was worth.

Would have cost Melbourne a 1st round pick to get him.

Whats up with Bell's Dad I haven't read anything regarding it, is he unwell ?

Bell's mother is deceased and his dad has cancer. He has teenage siblings. They live about 3 km from the Gabba.

:( Poor bugger, thanks MM.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: powersuperkents on October 19, 2015, 08:49:59 PM
Jeremy Howe is the big loss for the Dees. I would say Toumpas = Bennedy are of equal standing atm. Both just have potential (however, neither have shown promise at AFL level yet).

Excited nonetheless. Hoping Toumpas can reinvigorate his career
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Big Mac on October 19, 2015, 08:50:36 PM
Sick of people going on about the flowering points system

No, pick 29 + 50 does not equal pick 20. It equals pick 29 + 50
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: powersuperkents on October 19, 2015, 08:52:35 PM
"Port Adelaide received Toumpas and pick No.32 and gave up picks No.29, 50 and 68"

Holy flower, we didn't give up shower!!!  ;D

Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Ricochet on October 19, 2015, 08:53:00 PM
Quote from: Big  Mac on October 19, 2015, 08:50:36 PM
Sick of people going on about the flowering points system

No, pick 29 + 50 does not equal pick 20. It equals pick 29 + 50
Clubs are still using it as a bit of a guide though
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Pkbaldy on October 19, 2015, 10:33:33 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on October 19, 2015, 08:53:00 PM
Quote from: Big  Mac on October 19, 2015, 08:50:36 PM
Sick of people going on about the flowering points system

No, pick 29 + 50 does not equal pick 20. It equals pick 29 + 50
Clubs are still using it as a bit of a guide though

Yup... It's a shame really haha. Technically the 2 picks that Hawks have = Pick 4... I'd rather Pick 4 haha SOOOO MUCH More.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: powersuperkents on October 19, 2015, 10:49:16 PM
Quote from: Pkbaldy on October 19, 2015, 10:33:33 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on October 19, 2015, 08:53:00 PM
Quote from: Big  Mac on October 19, 2015, 08:50:36 PM
Sick of people going on about the flowering points system

No, pick 29 + 50 does not equal pick 20. It equals pick 29 + 50
Clubs are still using it as a bit of a guide though

Yup... It's a shame really haha. Technically the 2 picks that Hawks have = Pick 4... I'd rather Pick 4 haha SOOOO MUCH More.
+1

The points system for evaluating draft picks is only relevant if you are planning on making F/S or academy selection. To every other club they are irrelevant and the most valuable pick they can get is the earliest pick they can get.

I honestly only thought Carlton (a lot of potential F/S selections this season), Sydney, GWS, & Brisbane would be worrying about the points this year. I'm not sure why the Demons are worrying about it  :-\
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: kilbluff1985 on October 19, 2015, 10:54:09 PM
wonder how Pies will get Aish now

obviously going to have to give a couple 1st rounders for Treloar

wonder if they could get Treloar and GWS 2nd rounder for 2 1st rounders

then give the 2nd rounder to Brisbane for Aish
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: powersuperkents on October 19, 2015, 10:56:23 PM
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on October 19, 2015, 10:54:09 PM
wonder how Pies will get Aish now

obviously going to have to give a couple 1st rounders for Treloar

wonder if they could get Treloar and GWS 2nd rounder for 2 1st rounders

then give the 2nd rounder to Brisbane for Aish
I could see Brisbane saying "flower Aish" and just trading him to Nth for Bastinac. Aish would likely sign that contract because it's between them and Carlton. He should not have a say in which club he's going to, unfortunately the AFL's rules entitle 2nd year players to have that undeserved right.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: GoLions on October 19, 2015, 11:08:45 PM
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on October 19, 2015, 10:54:09 PM
wonder how Pies will get Aish now

obviously going to have to give a couple 1st rounders for Treloar

wonder if they could get Treloar and GWS 2nd rounder for 2 1st rounders

then give the 2nd rounder to Brisbane for Aish
We've already said we'll send him to the draft if it's just a second rounder
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: GoLions on October 19, 2015, 11:24:50 PM
Lions latest trade target (https://twitter.com/brisbanelions/status/654902095758295040)
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: kilbluff1985 on October 19, 2015, 11:37:02 PM
this looks good

(http://i61.tinypic.com/fao1l5.jpg)
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: H1bb3i2d on October 19, 2015, 11:48:11 PM
(http://puu.sh/kPJK3/c1b9b4cc24.png)

Beat me to it KB, but this one looks better ;) (plus it explains why Ess going from 23 to 24 has no effect for the nufties that don't get it straight away)

It's a perfect deal. Hopefully it gets to Ameet and Dodo, and Sydney are happy to be the hero the Saints need, but don't deserve (to get their so sought after first round pick back).
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: kilbluff1985 on October 19, 2015, 11:57:09 PM
only problem is Freeman how do Saints get him with that trade
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: GoLions on October 19, 2015, 11:59:05 PM
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on October 19, 2015, 11:57:09 PM
only problem is Freeman how do Saints get him with that trade
Next years 2nd rounder?
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: kilbluff1985 on October 20, 2015, 12:02:25 AM
Quote from: GoLions on October 19, 2015, 11:59:05 PM
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on October 19, 2015, 11:57:09 PM
only problem is Freeman how do Saints get him with that trade
Next years 2nd rounder?

yeah is what i was thinking but depends if Pies want to do it
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: RaisyDaisy on October 20, 2015, 09:31:03 AM
Tweet from Brian Lake, that he later deleted

"J. Giles 3 years = 3 clubs. B. Lake 3 years = 3 flags"
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Big Mac on October 20, 2015, 10:32:36 AM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on October 20, 2015, 09:31:03 AM
Tweet from Brian Lake, that he later deleted

"J. Giles 3 years = 3 clubs. B. Lake 3 years = 3 flags"

I can see why he deleted it
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: elephants on October 20, 2015, 10:37:06 AM
Still a White Goodman lol
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: PowerBug on October 20, 2015, 11:06:26 AM
Pretty funny I think :P still hate him for what he did to Petrie
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Big Mac on October 20, 2015, 11:20:14 AM
Quote from: PowerBug on October 20, 2015, 11:06:26 AM
Pretty funny I think :P still hate him for what he did to Petrie

HAHAHAHA look at me I'm so good! Not like Mr. Giles over here! He sucks! hahahaha
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: TomK on October 20, 2015, 11:23:47 AM
According to BF, Troy Menzel is having a medical at Adelaide and apparently the poster has good sources inside Carlton :o
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: kilbluff1985 on October 20, 2015, 11:24:40 AM
for the record he claims his phone was hijacked and they posted it
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: kilbluff1985 on October 20, 2015, 01:13:32 PM
peter ryan ‏@AFL_petryan  7m7 minutes ago
Hearing Nathan Freeman to @stkildafc is done. Freeman & pick 68 to St Kilda and @CollingwoodFC gets second round pick 2016 and pick 63 2015
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Nige on October 20, 2015, 02:31:01 PM
Slow day.

Looks like tomorrow and Thursday will be busy with Treloar, Yarran, Aish, Carlisle, Dixon etc all yet to move.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Nige on October 20, 2015, 03:08:56 PM
BIG News unfolding between Adelaide and Carlton.

AFL's Mitch Cleary is reporting that Carlton will send Troy Menzel to the Crows, who will send Sam Kerrridge and pick 28 the way of the Blues.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Jay on October 20, 2015, 03:13:54 PM
Quote from: Nige on October 20, 2015, 03:08:56 PM
BIG News unfolding between Adelaide and Carlton.

AFL's Mitch Cleary is reporting that Carlton will send Troy Menzel to the Crows, who will send Sam Kerrridge and pick 28 the way of the Blues.
:o
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Big Mac on October 20, 2015, 03:21:23 PM
(http://i.imgur.com/JXhwgDT.png)

:P
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: powersuperkents on October 20, 2015, 03:22:04 PM
Quote from: Jayman on October 20, 2015, 03:13:54 PM
Quote from: Nige on October 20, 2015, 03:08:56 PM
BIG News unfolding between Adelaide and Carlton.

AFL's Mitch Cleary is reporting that Carlton will send Troy Menzel to the Crows, who will send Sam Kerrridge and pick 28 the way of the Blues.
:o
What!

Troy Menzel is injury prone. But a win nevertheless for the Crows managing to pull that off (bigger than the Swans pulling off the Sinclair snatch imo)
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Purple 77 on October 20, 2015, 03:22:35 PM
Quote from: Big  Mac on October 20, 2015, 03:21:23 PM
(http://i.imgur.com/JXhwgDT.png)

:P

I know right  ::)
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Pkbaldy on October 20, 2015, 03:23:39 PM
Quote from: TomK on October 20, 2015, 11:23:47 AM
According to BF, Troy Menzel is having a medical at Adelaide and apparently the poster has good sources inside Carlton :o

Hard to do a medical in Bali :P And by the time he gets back he'll be 5kg heavier and sleepy. Unless they'll do the trade anyway.

Still not worth from Carlton's point of view. Kerridge isn't even good. Kerridge + 13 for Menzel + 3rd would be better suited for Carlton.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Nige on October 20, 2015, 03:28:59 PM
Quote from: Pkbaldy on October 20, 2015, 03:23:39 PM
Quote from: TomK on October 20, 2015, 11:23:47 AM
According to BF, Troy Menzel is having a medical at Adelaide and apparently the poster has good sources inside Carlton :o

Hard to do a medical in Bali :P And by the time he gets back he'll be 5kg heavier and sleepy. Unless they'll do the trade anyway.

Still not worth from Carlton's point of view. Kerridge isn't even good. Kerridge + 13 for Menzel + 3rd would be better suited for Carlton.
There was another post suggesting Kerridge + 13 for Menzel + 21 or something.  :o
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: powersuperkents on October 20, 2015, 03:29:57 PM
"Who blinks first in Dixon stand-off?

Charlie Dixon's move to Port Adelaide continues to be held up by Gold Coast's demands of more than pick 10 for the powerful key forward.

But Dixon could leave the Suns empty-handed if a solution can't be found, with the Adelaide Advertiser reporting the big man is willing to enter the pre-season or national draft to get to Alberton.

Dixon is reportedly set to sign a five-year deal with the Power after playing 65 games and booting 94 goals for the Suns."

What exactly happens in that situation? Obviously Port has pick 10 in the PSD so there are 9 clubs that could select him before that. Would the 9 clubs refrain from picking him (like with Tippett) because picking a player who doesn't want to play for them will be futile and a waste of time - plus the backlash they may receive PR-wise.

or would Dixon refuse to sign the contract if another club attempted a low-integrity move - what would happen after that (e.g. a two year ban or a year to wait for the next draft)?

I think the Suns will be set to fold very soon (Port have not been ripped off since Hinkley was appointed coach - in fact the Polec, Ryder, & Toumpas trades were arguably all very lopsided despite the fact Essendon & Brisbane made the best out of a bad situation with the subsequent Nat picks and selected strong prospects).
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: TomK on October 20, 2015, 03:30:46 PM
Quote from: Nige on October 20, 2015, 03:08:56 PM
BIG News unfolding between Adelaide and Carlton.

AFL's Mitch Cleary is reporting that Carlton will send Troy Menzel to the Crows, who will send Sam Kerrridge and pick 28 the way of the Blues.
That is an absolute steal! Surely Carlton aren't that stupid but then again, Trigg is there ;D

Quote from: Pkbaldy on October 20, 2015, 03:23:39 PM
Quote from: TomK on October 20, 2015, 11:23:47 AM
According to BF, Troy Menzel is having a medical at Adelaide and apparently the poster has good sources inside Carlton :o

Hard to do a medical in Bali :P And by the time he gets back he'll be 5kg heavier and sleepy. Unless they'll do the trade anyway.

Still not worth from Carlton's point of view. Kerridge isn't even good. Kerridge + 13 for Menzel + 3rd would be better suited for Carlton.
Hahaha is he in Bali?

If this trade is a possibility and Carlton demand 9 or 13, we will probably just walk away. We aren't trading them.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: powersuperkents on October 20, 2015, 03:31:30 PM
Quote from: Nige on October 20, 2015, 03:28:59 PM
Quote from: Pkbaldy on October 20, 2015, 03:23:39 PM
Quote from: TomK on October 20, 2015, 11:23:47 AM
According to BF, Troy Menzel is having a medical at Adelaide and apparently the poster has good sources inside Carlton :o

Hard to do a medical in Bali :P And by the time he gets back he'll be 5kg heavier and sleepy. Unless they'll do the trade anyway.

Still not worth from Carlton's point of view. Kerridge isn't even good. Kerridge + 13 for Menzel + 3rd would be better suited for Carlton.
There was another post suggesting Kerridge + 13 for Menzel + 21 or something.  :o
I thought Carlton would want to keep their draft picks for the F/S prospects this season, or have most of them nominated for the National draft?

I was under the impression that there were 3-5 potential F/S draftees for the Blues this year
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Nige on October 20, 2015, 03:32:46 PM
I'm fairly sure SOS is smart enough to keep Menzel.

I like Kerridge and reckon he'd benefit from a fresh start but surely Carlton wouldn't?
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: TomK on October 20, 2015, 03:33:06 PM
Sam Landsberger âœ" @SamLandsberger
Troy Menzel was scheduled to meet Adelaide on his return home from Bali. Time running out but a trade back to SA not out of the picture.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: TomK on October 20, 2015, 03:34:46 PM
Quote from: Nige on October 20, 2015, 03:28:59 PM
Quote from: Pkbaldy on October 20, 2015, 03:23:39 PM
Quote from: TomK on October 20, 2015, 11:23:47 AM
According to BF, Troy Menzel is having a medical at Adelaide and apparently the poster has good sources inside Carlton :o

Hard to do a medical in Bali :P And by the time he gets back he'll be 5kg heavier and sleepy. Unless they'll do the trade anyway.

Still not worth from Carlton's point of view. Kerridge isn't even good. Kerridge + 13 for Menzel + 3rd would be better suited for Carlton.
There was another post suggesting Kerridge + 13 for Menzel + 21 or something.  :o
I'd do this and then try and package 21 + 28 to someone to move back in the first round.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: elephants on October 20, 2015, 03:41:01 PM
I don't mind that deal, although I like Kerridge and I think Menzel is disgustingly injury prone and overrated :P
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Pkbaldy on October 20, 2015, 03:44:42 PM
Quote from: TomK on October 20, 2015, 03:33:06 PM
Sam Landsberger âœ" @SamLandsberger
Troy Menzel was scheduled to meet Adelaide on his return home from Bali. Time running out but a trade back to SA not out of the picture.

If it goes through. Will probably be the last trade of the week.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Adamant on October 20, 2015, 04:05:02 PM
Quote from: elephants on October 20, 2015, 03:41:01 PM
I don't mind that deal, although I like Kerridge and I think Menzel is disgustingly injury prone and overrated :P
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: RaisyDaisy on October 20, 2015, 04:28:38 PM
LOL Carlton

Lets get rid of a rare (for Carlton) half decent forward and bring in Tagger #5
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Pkbaldy on October 20, 2015, 04:31:30 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on October 20, 2015, 04:28:38 PM
LOL Carlton

Lets get rid of a rare (for Carlton) half decent forward and bring in Tagger #5

He's a tagger? I thought he just floated around and just hoped that the ball came his way.... haha
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: elephants on October 20, 2015, 04:38:05 PM
Orrrr... Gets rid of a kid who has shown little at AFL level and has had a shocking run with injuries for a young midfielder with a great ceiling (kicked 6 against North and has carved the SANFL this season) and a top 30 draft pick (which in case you haven't noticed is important for a rebuilding side).
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: TomK on October 20, 2015, 04:50:21 PM
Mark Stevens @Stevo7AFL
Charlie Dixon a cert to end up at Port before end of play today, official soon ...

Mark Stevens @Stevo7AFL
Exclusive @7NewsMelbourne ... Charlie Dixon deal done, with the help of Richmond .. Suns to get picks this year and next ..
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Toga on October 20, 2015, 04:52:10 PM
Quote from: TomK on October 20, 2015, 04:50:21 PM
Mark Stevens @Stevo7AFL
Charlie Dixon a cert to end up at Port before end of play today, official soon ...

Mark Stevens @Stevo7AFL
Exclusive @7NewsMelbourne ... Charlie Dixon deal done, with the help of Richmond .. Suns to get picks this year and next ..

I wonder what Richmond's involvement might be... Could this be the way the club plans to satisfy Carlton for Yarran?
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Nige on October 20, 2015, 04:55:15 PM
Quote from: Toga on October 20, 2015, 04:52:10 PM
Quote from: TomK on October 20, 2015, 04:50:21 PM
Mark Stevens @Stevo7AFL
Charlie Dixon a cert to end up at Port before end of play today, official soon ...

Mark Stevens @Stevo7AFL
Exclusive @7NewsMelbourne ... Charlie Dixon deal done, with the help of Richmond .. Suns to get picks this year and next ..

I wonder what Richmond's involvement might be... Could this be the way the club plans to satisfy Carlton for Yarran?
Has to be, surely.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Nige on October 20, 2015, 04:57:24 PM
Yep, looks like we'll be getting 19 to send to the Blues for Yaz. Means they have 19, 20 and 21 I think.

Sounds like a three way deal between the Saints, Bombers and Swans is in the works for Carlisle.

Edit:

Mark Stevens ‏@Stevo7AFL 2m2 minutes ago

Exclusive: Dixon deal will be great for Suns .. Believe 10 and 31 this year and Port and Rich second rounders next year @7NewsMelbourne
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: RaisyDaisy on October 20, 2015, 05:05:46 PM
Quote from: elephants on October 20, 2015, 04:38:05 PM
Orrrr... Gets rid of a kid who has shown little at AFL level and has had a shocking run with injuries for a young midfielder with a great ceiling (kicked 6 against North and has carved the SANFL this season) and a top 30 draft pick (which in case you haven't noticed is important for a rebuilding side).

Kerridge will never kick 6 again. That was one out the box

The Menzel boys are made of paper, but have the skills when fit. Still very young so I still stand by my comment.

Surely Menzel is more valuable to them long term than what Kerridge is?

Didn't Carlton learn after giving Adelaide Betts lol
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: powersuperkents on October 20, 2015, 05:07:38 PM
DIXON!!!

Now time to focus on the 2016 Grand Final haha  :P
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: TomK on October 20, 2015, 05:08:22 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on October 20, 2015, 05:05:46 PM
Didn't Carlton learn after giving Adelaide Betts lol
Hopefully not lol ;D
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Jay on October 20, 2015, 05:12:41 PM
So Gold Coast got more for Dixon than we did for Dangerfield.. ::)
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Nige on October 20, 2015, 05:14:02 PM
Trying to piece it all together.

Sounds like:

Port get: Dixon + 2016 2nd rounder
Suns get: 10 + 31
Tiges get: 19 + 2016 2nd rounder
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Rusty00 on October 20, 2015, 05:17:24 PM
Quote from: Jayman on October 20, 2015, 05:12:41 PM
So Gold Coast got more for Dixon than we did for Dangerfield.. ::)
That was always going to happen, it's called Free Agency :P

You guys were lucky you got as much as you did for Dangerfield, given it could have been a lot less under the circumstances.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Big Mac on October 20, 2015, 05:21:16 PM
Quote from: Nige on October 20, 2015, 05:14:02 PM
Trying to piece it all together.

Sounds like:

Port get: Dixon + 2016 2nd rounder
Suns get: 10 + 31
Tiges get: 19 + 2016 2nd rounder

So pick 12 isn't involved?
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Nige on October 20, 2015, 05:22:23 PM
Quote from: Big  Mac on October 20, 2015, 05:21:16 PM
Quote from: Nige on October 20, 2015, 05:14:02 PM
Trying to piece it all together.

Sounds like:

Port get: Dixon + 2016 2nd rounder
Suns get: 10 + 31
Tiges get: 19 + 2016 2nd rounder

So pick 12 isn't involved?
Nope, we're keeping that.

19 will get us Yaz.



Sounds like Craig Bird might end up at Essendon for 25.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: powersuperkents on October 20, 2015, 05:26:20 PM
Quote from: Nige on October 20, 2015, 05:22:23 PM
Quote from: Big  Mac on October 20, 2015, 05:21:16 PM
Quote from: Nige on October 20, 2015, 05:14:02 PM
Trying to piece it all together.

Sounds like:

Port get: Dixon + 2016 2nd rounder
Suns get: 10 + 31
Tiges get: 19 + 2016 2nd rounder

So pick 12 isn't involved?
Nope, we're keeping that.

19 will get us Yaz.



Sounds like Craig Bird might end up at Essendon for 25.
Bird > Melksham imo

Good pick up by the Bombers
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Pkbaldy on October 20, 2015, 05:28:38 PM
Everything on twitter is up to shower with this Carlisle trade... Is it???;

Ess In: 5, Bird
Ess Out: Carlisle, 23,25

Syd In: 23, 24, 25
Syd Out: Bird, 14

Saints In: Carlisle, 14
Saints Out: 5, 24

I have no clue...
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Purple 77 on October 20, 2015, 05:29:00 PM
That moment when you realise, there was a "Get Excited By..." compilation for Zac Smith...

... but none for Jake Smells Ham.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Big Mac on October 20, 2015, 05:30:37 PM
Quote from: Purple 77 on October 20, 2015, 05:29:00 PM
That moment when you realise, there was a "Get Excited By..." compilation for Zac Smith...

... but none for Jake Smells Ham.

Just watch this

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=roirDcJEGk4 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=roirDcJEGk4)
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: powersuperkents on October 20, 2015, 05:32:47 PM
Quote from: Purple 77 on October 20, 2015, 05:29:00 PM
That moment when you realise, there was a "Get Excited By..." compilation for Zac Smith...

... but none for Jake Smells Ham.
None for Jimmy T either  :P

I've been watching his SANFL highlights. Hopefully he can play on the opposite wing from Polec and regain his U18's form. Really excited by him because if Hinkley can untap Westhoff, Polec, Hartlett, Gray, White, Jonas, Lobbe, Broadbent, Pittard etc. I have no doubts he will untap Toumpas' potential
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Nige on October 20, 2015, 05:40:59 PM
Details of the Dixon trade: http://www.theage.com.au/afl/trading-and-drafting/afl-trades-2015-charlie-dixon-lands-at-port-adelaide-20151020-gkduj3.html
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Cambo on October 20, 2015, 05:57:25 PM
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on October 20, 2015, 01:13:32 PM
peter ryan ‏@AFL_petryan  7m7 minutes ago
Hearing Nathan Freeman to @stkildafc is done. Freeman & pick 68 to St Kilda and @CollingwoodFC gets second round pick 2016 and pick 63 2015

That will be a big loss for the Pies in the long run and a great win for the Saints.   Freeman can play and will be a beast once the body is right. 
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Nige on October 20, 2015, 05:58:43 PM
Emma Quayle ‏@emmasq 4m4 minutes ago

Hearing Carlton's already knocking back 19 for Yarran. Surely they come around.



flowering Carlton...
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Bill Manspeaker on October 20, 2015, 06:10:01 PM
Quote from: Pkbaldy on October 20, 2015, 05:28:38 PM
Everything on twitter is up to shower with this Carlisle trade... Is it???;

Ess In: 5, Bird
Ess Out: Carlisle, 23,25

Syd In: 23, 24, 25
Syd Out: Bird, 14

Saints In: Carlisle, 14
Saints Out: 5, 24

I have no clue...
Deal is done, we gave up 5 & 24.
We got back 14 and 44.
And Carlisle.
Swans were involved, A swans player went to Essendon, out of respect to him not naming him but same family as a Swan kind of 

from Jaxons who is usually pretty spot on

Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: quinny88 on October 20, 2015, 06:15:14 PM
Quote from: Nige on October 20, 2015, 05:58:43 PM
Emma Quayle ‏@emmasq 4m4 minutes ago

Hearing Carlton's already knocking back 19 for Yarran. Surely they come around.



flowering Carlton...

Are they kidding themselves?
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: elephants on October 20, 2015, 06:21:28 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on October 20, 2015, 05:05:46 PM
Quote from: elephants on October 20, 2015, 04:38:05 PM
Orrrr... Gets rid of a kid who has shown little at AFL level and has had a shocking run with injuries for a young midfielder with a great ceiling (kicked 6 against North and has carved the SANFL this season) and a top 30 draft pick (which in case you haven't noticed is important for a rebuilding side).

Kerridge will never kick 6 again. That was one out the box

The Menzel boys are made of paper, but have the skills when fit. Still very young so I still stand by my comment.

Surely Menzel is more valuable to them long term than what Kerridge is?

Didn't Carlton learn after giving Adelaide Betts lol

Maybe, but thats because he's a midfielder. Anyway, its a hell of a lot more than Menzel has shown at AFL level to this point.

Possibly, but the point is, given Carlton's position, they can't rely so heavily on a player who has talent with such a horrific run with injuries. St Kilda did this over the last couple of years, they racked up picks in the top 20 and got 6-8 good young players (McCartin, Goddard, McKenzie, Lonie, Billings, Dunstan, Acres) and they were more than happy to trade established players for these - McEvoy, Stanley, etc.

Fact is, Carlton are in a rebuild so its 100% about loading up on young kids and cashing in where possible. If Menzel has another year like this year then he's cooked in terms of trade value.

The Betts thing is completely different. Adelaide offered him mental money (think its around 700k a season) and the Blues weren't prepared to offer anything around that figure so Eddie walked to the Crows.

All about spreading the load and in the process eliminating the risk.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: kilbluff1985 on October 20, 2015, 06:25:57 PM
love the Carlisle deal

how does Menzel even fit into the Crows forward line?
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: kilbluff1985 on October 20, 2015, 06:28:46 PM
Patrick Keane ‏@AFL_PKeane  40s41 seconds ago
AFL advises Trade paperword formally lodged:
Richmond exchange r2 pick (curr 31) & 2016 r2 future pick to GCSuns for end r1 pick (curr 19).
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: iZander on October 20, 2015, 06:32:58 PM
Quote from: Bill Manspeaker on October 20, 2015, 06:10:01 PM
Quote from: Pkbaldy on October 20, 2015, 05:28:38 PM
Everything on twitter is up to shower with this Carlisle trade... Is it???;

Ess In: 5, Bird
Ess Out: Carlisle, 23,25

Syd In: 23, 24, 25
Syd Out: Bird, 14

Saints In: Carlisle, 14
Saints Out: 5, 24

I have no clue...
Deal is done, we gave up 5 & 24.
We got back 14 and 44.
And Carlisle.
Swans were involved, A swans player went to Essendon, out of respect to him not naming him but same family as a Swan kind of

from Jaxons who is usually pretty spot on
Is this deal actually fully confirmed? and did we get Craig Bird? because id be absolutely stoked with that!
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: elephants on October 20, 2015, 06:34:11 PM
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on October 20, 2015, 06:25:57 PM
how does Menzel even fit into the Crows forward line?

Would have to be on a flank with stints in the midfield in the future I think
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: JBs-Hawks on October 20, 2015, 06:36:50 PM
Quote from: powersuperkents on October 20, 2015, 05:07:38 PM
DIXON!!!

Now time to focus on the 2016 Grand Final haha  :P

You said the same after you got Ryder didn't you?
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: TomK on October 20, 2015, 06:40:59 PM
Quote from: elephants on October 20, 2015, 06:34:11 PM
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on October 20, 2015, 06:25:57 PM
how does Menzel even fit into the Crows forward line?

Would have to be on a flank with stints in the midfield in the future I think
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: nas on October 20, 2015, 06:49:06 PM
Quote from: JBs-Hawks on October 20, 2015, 06:36:50 PM
Quote from: powersuperkents on October 20, 2015, 05:07:38 PM
DIXON!!!

Now time to focus on the 2016 Grand Final haha  :P

You said the same after you got Ryder didn't you?

No he said 2015. :P
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: JBs-Hawks on October 20, 2015, 06:50:58 PM
Quote from: nas on October 20, 2015, 06:49:06 PM
Quote from: JBs-Hawks on October 20, 2015, 06:36:50 PM
Quote from: powersuperkents on October 20, 2015, 05:07:38 PM
DIXON!!!

Now time to focus on the 2016 Grand Final haha  :P

You said the same after you got Ryder didn't you?

No he said 2015. :P

Haha well played!
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: powersuperkents on October 20, 2015, 06:58:54 PM
Quote from: Jayman on October 20, 2015, 05:12:41 PM
So Gold Coast got more for Dixon than we did for Dangerfield.. ::)
Well Dixon will be the Coleman Medalist from 2016-20  :P
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: tbagrocks on October 20, 2015, 07:00:35 PM
Quote from: Toga on October 19, 2015, 06:55:28 PM
So Port pretty much getting Toumpas for free. He hasn't shown much but got to be worth a punt given what they are giving up...
Yeah and it doesn't piss me off at all ???
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Pkbaldy on October 20, 2015, 07:03:22 PM
Quote from: powersuperkents on October 20, 2015, 06:58:54 PM
Quote from: Jayman on October 20, 2015, 05:12:41 PM
So Gold Coast got more for Dixon than we did for Dangerfield.. ::)
Well Dixon will be the Coleman Medalist from 2016-20  :P

Coleman with a 6-10 game season?? :P
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: tbagrocks on October 20, 2015, 07:14:00 PM
MENZEL 8)
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: H1bb3i2d on October 20, 2015, 07:38:32 PM
Overall, I'm happy with 5 for Carlisle and Bird for Melksham (minus a third rounder where there's not much talent this year).

However, I am a little disappointed that we turned a win in 25 for Melksham into getting someone like Bird. I guess it's the only way the Swans were to be satisfied, but hey it beats sending 25 to the Saints for nothing  ::)
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: powersuperkents on October 20, 2015, 07:48:21 PM
Quote from: Pkbaldy on October 20, 2015, 07:03:22 PM
Quote from: powersuperkents on October 20, 2015, 06:58:54 PM
Quote from: Jayman on October 20, 2015, 05:12:41 PM
So Gold Coast got more for Dixon than we did for Dangerfield.. ::)
Well Dixon will be the Coleman Medalist from 2016-20  :P

Coleman with a 6-10 game season?? :P
The amount of game he'll play won't hold him back. With the Power midfield and Schulz & Westhoff supporting him, he'll be bagging 8 per game  :P

Each transfer period has been better than the last since Hinkley arrived, what are the chances that Fyfe joins us next season  :P (although if I had to choose any player in the league - I would choose Rance without hesitation, I think a premier full back is all we need)
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Pkbaldy on October 20, 2015, 08:08:31 PM
Quote from: H1bb3i2d on October 20, 2015, 07:38:32 PM
Overall, I'm happy with 5 for Carlisle and Bird for Melksham (minus a third rounder where there's not much talent this year).

However, I am a little disappointed that we turned a win in 25 for Melksham into getting someone like Bird. I guess it's the only way the Swans were to be satisfied, but hey it beats sending 25 to the Saints for nothing  ::)

Well honestly all 3 teams win this trade... You guys get your Pick 5, Saints get Carlisle and still have a highly usable pick 14 and Sydney get an extra 400 points to secure Mills and maybe Dunkley.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: AaronKirk on October 20, 2015, 08:15:09 PM
I don't believe that the trade has been confirmed (the Ess, StK, Syd 3 way deal)

Would prefer to use 23 + 25 to package to give to GWS for pick 8 but Bird is a good pick up none the less.

Apparently Carlton have rejected pick 19 for Chris Yarran. What the flower do they think he is worth. He is probably worth that, none more on his form from last year where he just looked as if he didn't want to be there.

Why the hell are they wanting Kerridge for Menzel? Makes no sense at all... Whatever gear SOS is on I wouldn't mind some.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: H1bb3i2d on October 20, 2015, 08:19:23 PM
Quote from: AaronKirk on October 20, 2015, 08:15:09 PM
I don't believe that the trade has been confirmed (the Ess, StK, Syd 3 way deal)

Would prefer to use 23 + 25 to package to give to GWS for pick 8 but Bird is a good pick up none the less.

Apparently Carlton have rejected pick 19 for Chris Yarran. What the flower do they think he is worth. He is probably worth that, none more on his form from last year where he just looked as if he didn't want to be there.

Why the hell are they wanting Kerridge for Menzel? Makes no sense at all... Whatever gear SOS is on I wouldn't mind some.

The typical Carlton recruiting strategy. Trade out anybody with talent and bring in as many non-22 blokes from other clubs as they can.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Mat0369 on October 20, 2015, 08:33:02 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on October 20, 2015, 05:05:46 PM
Kerridge will never kick 6 again. That was one out the box

The Menzel boys are made of paper, but have the skills when fit. Still very young so I still stand by my comment.

Surely Menzel is more valuable to them long term than what Kerridge is?

Didn't Carlton learn after giving Adelaide Betts lol

It's not the injuries that's going to see him out the door, it's the lack of effort and work rate. It was extremely apparent this year considering he still has no sign of developing any form of a tank and his 2nd efforts are non-existent. The way I see it, we're after Kerridge anyway (who is a year older then Menz) and maybe Adelaide is offering their first round pick to go with it.

There have been a few reports, the one where we get the Crows 2nd round pick is quite ridiculous, if we did it for that I would be pretty disappointed, but if we could do the deal where we get Kerridge and the 14th pick for Menz and our 3rd rounder it works out pretty well. It's better then giving up our 2nd round pick for him and we get a first round pick for an under performing first round pick that's from Adelaide.

In terms of the Yaz trade, I say we're still asking for Richmond to give us their first pick next year and not pick 19. There is more upside with the pick from next year in a draft that's supposed to be deeper. It makes sense and I would be saying F you guys, give us the first next year
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: SydneyRox on October 20, 2015, 08:34:47 PM
Quote from: Pkbaldy on October 20, 2015, 05:28:38 PM
Everything on twitter is up to shower with this Carlisle trade... Is it???;

Ess In: 5, Bird
Ess Out: Carlisle, 23,25

Syd In: 23, 24, 25
Syd Out: Bird, 14

Saints In: Carlisle, 14
Saints Out: 5, 24

I have no clue...

sounds pretty solid to me, everyone gets what they want. imo saints would be winners
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Pkbaldy on October 20, 2015, 08:41:58 PM
Quote from: SydneyRox on October 20, 2015, 08:34:47 PM
Quote from: Pkbaldy on October 20, 2015, 05:28:38 PM
Everything on twitter is up to shower with this Carlisle trade... Is it???;

Ess In: 5, Bird
Ess Out: Carlisle, 23,25

Syd In: 23, 24, 25
Syd Out: Bird, 14

Saints In: Carlisle, 14
Saints Out: 5, 24

I have no clue...

sounds pretty solid to me, everyone gets what they want. imo saints would be winners

That's the real trade. The only thing holding it up is Craig Bird. He'll have a chat to his family and such tonight I guess.

St Kilda: IN Carlisle,14&44.
            OUT 5&24

Ess: IN Pick 5, Craig Bird.
       OUT Carlisle, 25&44

Syd: IN 24&25
       OUT Bird&14
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Mat0369 on October 20, 2015, 08:43:42 PM
Just saw this as well

QuoteSome rival clubs had suspected Hawthorn could make a last-minute play for Yarran with the pick No.15 it acquired from North Melbourne in the Jed Anderson trade, but it's understood Yarran won't be open to a late approach from another club.

So basically Carlton are saying we still want pick 12 because the Hawks can offer better then you can. I reckon if they come back with next years first rounder it would get the deal done.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Pkbaldy on October 20, 2015, 08:45:27 PM
And apparently if that trade does go through. Freo could try and include St Kilda into getting McCarthy to Freo.

Saints Lose: Pick 14
Saints Gain: Lachie Weller

Freo Lose: Lachie Weller, 1st of 2016
Freo Gain: Cameron McCarthy

GWS Lose: Cameron McCarthy
GWS Gain: Pick 14, Freos 1st of 2016
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Mat0369 on October 20, 2015, 09:02:58 PM
Quote from: powersuperkents on October 20, 2015, 03:31:30 PM
I thought Carlton would want to keep their draft picks for the F/S prospects this season, or have most of them nominated for the National draft?

I was under the impression that there were 3-5 potential F/S draftees for the Blues this year

The three are Silvagni, Rice and Bradley. Bradley doesn't look to even get drafted, Rice has picked the Saints since he is eligible for both and Silvagni will cost us a 3rd round pick max.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Money Shot on October 20, 2015, 09:05:22 PM
Quote from: Mat0369 on October 20, 2015, 08:43:42 PM
Just saw this as well

QuoteSome rival clubs had suspected Hawthorn could make a last-minute play for Yarran with the pick No.15 it acquired from North Melbourne in the Jed Anderson trade, but it's understood Yarran won't be open to a late approach from another club.

So basically Carlton are saying we still want pick 12 because the Hawks can offer better then you can. I reckon if they come back with next years first rounder it would get the deal done.
If I was carlton I would be thinking:
Richmonds First Round next year.
Pick 12
Pick 15
keep yarran.

19 is probably overs but we may as well keep him. We want him and with a new coach we could get the best out of him.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Money Shot on October 20, 2015, 09:16:25 PM
Is Tomilson a chance or not to go to carlton? I see the articles saying 20 and 21 for Plowman, Sumner, Lamb and Phillips but the one I (and many Carlton supporters) really want is Tomilson would we have to give more for him?
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Bill Manspeaker on October 20, 2015, 09:19:44 PM
Quote from: Pkbaldy on October 20, 2015, 08:45:27 PM
And apparently if that trade does go through. Freo could try and include St Kilda into getting McCarthy to Freo.

Saints Lose: Pick 14
Saints Gain: Lachie Weller

Freo Lose: Lachie Weller, 1st of 2016
Freo Gain: Cameron McCarthy

GWS Lose: Cameron McCarthy
GWS Gain: Pick 14, Freos 1st of 2016

that's tasty. hope this happens
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Money Shot on October 20, 2015, 09:22:32 PM
Quote from: Bill Manspeaker on October 20, 2015, 09:19:44 PM
Quote from: Pkbaldy on October 20, 2015, 08:45:27 PM
And apparently if that trade does go through. Freo could try and include St Kilda into getting McCarthy to Freo.

Saints Lose: Pick 14
Saints Gain: Lachie Weller

Freo Lose: Lachie Weller, 1st of 2016
Freo Gain: Cameron McCarthy

GWS Lose: Cameron McCarthy
GWS Gain: Pick 14, Freos 1st of 2016

that's tasty. hope this happens
Everyone wins there!
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: powersuperkents on October 20, 2015, 09:23:09 PM
Quote from: Pkbaldy on October 20, 2015, 08:45:27 PM
And apparently if that trade does go through. Freo could try and include St Kilda into getting McCarthy to Freo.

Saints Lose: Pick 14
Saints Gain: Lachie Weller

Freo Lose: Lachie Weller, 1st of 2016
Freo Gain: Cameron McCarthy

GWS Lose: Cameron McCarthy
GWS Gain: Pick 14, Freos 1st of 2016
Why would GWS agree to that, and wouldn't they just cut St Kilda out and take Weller for themselves in that situation.

It sounds more like you want this trade to happen because you're a Weller fan hahahahaha
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: AaronKirk on October 20, 2015, 09:24:38 PM
Quote from: Money Shot on October 20, 2015, 09:16:25 PM
Is Tomilson a chance or not to go to carlton? I see the articles saying 20 and 21 for Plowman, Sumner, Lamb and Phillips but the one I (and many Carlton supporters) really want is Tomilson would we have to give more for him?

I would be surprised if Tomlinson was not in a Carlton jumper next year.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Pkbaldy on October 20, 2015, 09:26:26 PM
Quote from: powersuperkents on October 20, 2015, 09:23:09 PM
Quote from: Pkbaldy on October 20, 2015, 08:45:27 PM
And apparently if that trade does go through. Freo could try and include St Kilda into getting McCarthy to Freo.

Saints Lose: Pick 14
Saints Gain: Lachie Weller

Freo Lose: Lachie Weller, 1st of 2016
Freo Gain: Cameron McCarthy

GWS Lose: Cameron McCarthy
GWS Gain: Pick 14, Freos 1st of 2016
Why would GWS agree to that, and wouldn't they just cut St Kilda out and take Weller for themselves in that situation.

It sounds more like you want this trade to happen because you're a Weller fan hahahahaha

Because I don't think Weller would agree to go to NSW? Like who would? It's a showerhole. And Pick 14 and Freo First of 2016, is better than 22 and First of Freos.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Mat0369 on October 20, 2015, 09:27:50 PM
Tomlinson was never really up for trade, it seems like just one of those ridiculous trade week rumors.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Toga on October 20, 2015, 09:28:22 PM
Quote from: AaronKirk on October 20, 2015, 08:15:09 PM
Apparently Carlton have rejected pick 19 for Chris Yarran. What the flower do they think he is worth. He is probably worth that, none more on his form from last year where he just looked as if he didn't want to be there.

This. Yes he has talent, yes he's more proven than a pick, but just look at what players have been traded for once they decide they want to move clubs. Pick 12 is by far overs, and I think even though Pick 19 is probably around his true worth that's still Carlton getting a good deal given the circumstances.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Money Shot on October 20, 2015, 09:31:10 PM
calling it now

Menzel for Kerridge and 28

20/21/28 for Tomilson, Plowman, Phillips, Lamb, Sumner and 48

48 for Silvangi :-*

I think that's fair ... or am I just a biased Carlton fan?
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: AaronKirk on October 20, 2015, 09:35:45 PM
Quote from: Toga on October 20, 2015, 09:28:22 PM
Quote from: AaronKirk on October 20, 2015, 08:15:09 PM
Apparently Carlton have rejected pick 19 for Chris Yarran. What the flower do they think he is worth. He is probably worth that, none more on his form from last year where he just looked as if he didn't want to be there.

This. Yes he has talent, yes he's more proven than a pick, but just look at what players have been traded for once they decide they want to move clubs. Pick 12 is by far overs, and I think even though Pick 19 is probably around his true worth that's still Carlton getting a good deal given the circumstances.

The more I think about it Hawthorn probably would offer one of pick 15 or 18 for Yarran which is why Carlton would reject Richmond's offer.

Means really Richmond have to offer more than pick 19 to get him.

Pick 19 is probably what a fair offer is worth but you have to pay what the market is offering.

I hope Carlton push for a 1st round pick from the Crows in the deal for Menzel. If they give Menzel for Kerridge and 28 they would be getting shafted massively.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Money Shot on October 20, 2015, 09:39:45 PM
Quote from: AaronKirk on October 20, 2015, 09:35:45 PM
Quote from: Toga on October 20, 2015, 09:28:22 PM
Quote from: AaronKirk on October 20, 2015, 08:15:09 PM

I hope Carlton push for a 1st round pick from the Crows in the deal for Menzel. If they give Menzel for Kerridge and 28 they would be getting shafted massively.

I think we aren't really. Yeah Menzel has potential but he doesn't want to be at the club. We could then go 20,21,28 for Tomilson which is a guy we really need, Phillips which is a good back up ruckmen, Sumer and Lamb for depth around the midfield and Plowman who will be a good defender.

Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: powersuperkents on October 20, 2015, 09:49:20 PM
Quote from: Pkbaldy on October 20, 2015, 09:26:26 PM
Quote from: powersuperkents on October 20, 2015, 09:23:09 PM
Quote from: Pkbaldy on October 20, 2015, 08:45:27 PM
And apparently if that trade does go through. Freo could try and include St Kilda into getting McCarthy to Freo.

Saints Lose: Pick 14
Saints Gain: Lachie Weller

Freo Lose: Lachie Weller, 1st of 2016
Freo Gain: Cameron McCarthy

GWS Lose: Cameron McCarthy
GWS Gain: Pick 14, Freos 1st of 2016
Why would GWS agree to that, and wouldn't they just cut St Kilda out and take Weller for themselves in that situation.

It sounds more like you want this trade to happen because you're a Weller fan hahahahaha

Because I don't think Weller would agree to go to NSW? Like who would? It's a showerhole. And Pick 14 and Freo First of 2016, is better than 22 and First of Freos.
I think not trading McCarthy at all beats all your suggestions. GWS have all the leverage and they say they are not trading him. Therefore, McCarthy can quit football and breach his contract (I'm not sure whether he will not be able to be AFL for just the next 2 seasons or whether there's a permanent ban or something) or just suck it up and play for the GWS for the next 2 seasons or until a club makes them an offer that isn't a complete joke (Freo's offer is absolutely ridiculous, if they were serious about recruiting him they would offer a player rather than trying to play mind games - which GWS are just ignoring)
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Grazz on October 20, 2015, 10:05:25 PM
Can't see the Crows giving a first round pick for Menzel when they are chasing Francis and Milera in the draft.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Pkbaldy on October 20, 2015, 10:06:13 PM
Quote from: powersuperkents on October 20, 2015, 09:49:20 PM
Quote from: Pkbaldy on October 20, 2015, 09:26:26 PM
Quote from: powersuperkents on October 20, 2015, 09:23:09 PM
Quote from: Pkbaldy on October 20, 2015, 08:45:27 PM
And apparently if that trade does go through. Freo could try and include St Kilda into getting McCarthy to Freo.

Saints Lose: Pick 14
Saints Gain: Lachie Weller

Freo Lose: Lachie Weller, 1st of 2016
Freo Gain: Cameron McCarthy

GWS Lose: Cameron McCarthy
GWS Gain: Pick 14, Freos 1st of 2016
Why would GWS agree to that, and wouldn't they just cut St Kilda out and take Weller for themselves in that situation.

It sounds more like you want this trade to happen because you're a Weller fan hahahahaha

Because I don't think Weller would agree to go to NSW? Like who would? It's a showerhole. And Pick 14 and Freo First of 2016, is better than 22 and First of Freos.
I think not trading McCarthy at all beats all your suggestions. GWS have all the leverage and they say they are not trading him. Therefore, McCarthy can quit football and breach his contract (I'm not sure whether he will not be able to be AFL for just the next 2 seasons or whether there's a permanent ban or something) or just suck it up and play for the GWS for the next 2 seasons or until a club makes them an offer that isn't a complete joke (Freo's offer is absolutely ridiculous, if they were serious about recruiting him they would offer a player rather than trying to play mind games - which GWS are just ignoring)

He'd be shower at freo anyway. Only handy when he takes the 2nd or 3rd best defender... If he was at Freo he'd take the first defender and get slaughtered everyweek. 700k a year for a 2nd tall is retarded
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Ricochet on October 20, 2015, 10:12:47 PM
Freo won't let Weller go.

I said it before, I'd rather not get McCarthy then let Weller leave
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: H1bb3i2d on October 20, 2015, 10:15:08 PM
Quote from: Grazz on October 20, 2015, 10:05:25 PM
Can't see the Crows giving a first round pick for Menzel when they are chasing Francis and Milera in the draft.

Chances of Francis slipping to 9 are 0.

Quote from: AaronKirk on October 20, 2015, 09:35:45 PM
Quote from: Toga on October 20, 2015, 09:28:22 PM
Quote from: AaronKirk on October 20, 2015, 08:15:09 PM
Apparently Carlton have rejected pick 19 for Chris Yarran. What the flower do they think he is worth. He is probably worth that, none more on his form from last year where he just looked as if he didn't want to be there.

This. Yes he has talent, yes he's more proven than a pick, but just look at what players have been traded for once they decide they want to move clubs. Pick 12 is by far overs, and I think even though Pick 19 is probably around his true worth that's still Carlton getting a good deal given the circumstances.

The more I think about it Hawthorn probably would offer one of pick 15 or 18 for Yarran which is why Carlton would reject Richmond's offer.

Means really Richmond have to offer more than pick 19 to get him.

Pick 19 is probably what a fair offer is worth but you have to pay what the market is offering.

I hope Carlton push for a 1st round pick from the Crows in the deal for Menzel. If they give Menzel for Kerridge and 28 they would be getting shafted massively.

By all reports there's about a 1% difference between pick 13 and 20 this year. Far out Carlton, what's a 3 pick upgrade in that range gonna achieve? Just take 19 and get rid of a player that doesn't even appear to look like he wants to be there. Pick 19 may flop, but Yarran won't do anything in 2016 and he'll walk out for a second rounder at best when he's OOC and averaging more missed tackles than stats.

Quote from: Ricochet on October 20, 2015, 10:12:47 PM
Freo won't let Weller go.

I said it before, I'd rather not get McCarthy then let Weller leave

Giants won't let McCarthy go, either. If he really hated GWS he wouldn't have signed the extension. His manager needs to pull his head in. (His own, that is).
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Ricochet on October 20, 2015, 10:17:50 PM
Quote from: H1bb3i2d on October 20, 2015, 10:15:08 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on October 20, 2015, 10:12:47 PM
Freo won't let Weller go.

I said it before, I'd rather not get McCarthy then let Weller leave

Giants won't let McCarthy go, either. If he really hated GWS he wouldn't have signed the extension. His manager needs to pull his head in. (His own, that is).
Difference is McCarthy wants to come home, Weller has already come out saying he wants to stay.

Like i said, don't want McCarthy if he's going to cost a player like that
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Pkbaldy on October 20, 2015, 10:23:59 PM
Quote from: Grazz on October 20, 2015, 10:05:25 PM
Can't see the Crows giving a first round pick for Menzel when they are chasing Francis and Milera in the draft.

Yeah I don't see Francis slipping at all mate. Can assure you WILL go in the first 5 picks (Excluding live bidding for academies).
Realistic picks I reckon at the moment would be, 9- Milera ,Explosive Midfielder who loves a goal and 13- Harry McKay, 2m Fwd who can also do ruck stints, which will put A LOT of pressure off Jacobs in the future.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Grazz on October 20, 2015, 10:30:16 PM
Quote from: H1bb3i2d on October 20, 2015, 10:15:08 PM
Quote from: Grazz on October 20, 2015, 10:05:25 PM
Can't see the Crows giving a first round pick for Menzel when they are chasing Francis and Milera in the draft.

Chances of Francis slipping to 9 are 0.


Probably not but one can hope.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: powersuperkents on October 20, 2015, 10:46:10 PM
@Rico & Pk

I completely agree. McCarthy is not a 1st tall and would be slaughtered if he moved to Freo - obviously why Freo are not willing to part with anything significant to secure him. The same problem would have occurred if Freo got Schulz (same sort of forward) and I've seen the problem with Schulz on many occasions (Schulz is athletic, runs free, and dives towards the ball - so McCarthy lacks those features that could make him serviceable as first tall).

Freo really need to look for a player comparable to Pav imo, but these players rarely leave their clubs so Taberner & Apeness seem to be the players to focus on for now.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: meow meow on October 20, 2015, 10:47:41 PM
Michael Talia up at Sydney getting a medical. There's talk that we're just going to delist him and the Swans will get him for nothing as a delisted free agent.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Nige on October 20, 2015, 10:51:24 PM
Apparently Bewick's met with North and could be a part of the deal to get Bastinac to the Lions.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Grazz on October 20, 2015, 10:52:47 PM
Quote from: powersuperkents on October 20, 2015, 10:46:10 PM
@Rico & Pk

I completely agree. McCarthy is not a 1st tall and would be slaughtered if he moved to Freo - obviously why Freo are not willing to part with anything significant to secure him. The same problem would have occurred if Freo got Schulz (same sort of forward) and I've seen the problem with Schulz on many occasions (Schulz is athletic, runs free, and dives towards the ball - so McCarthy lacks those features that could make him serviceable as first tall).

Freo really need to look for a player comparable to Pav imo, but these players rarely leave their clubs so Taberner & Apeness seem to be the players to focus on for now.

Would Fyfe and Bennel rotating through there help him out by demanding the #1 defender goes to them or not.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: powersuperkents on October 20, 2015, 10:57:01 PM
Quote from: Nige on October 20, 2015, 10:51:24 PM
Apparently Bewick's met with North and could be a part of the deal to get Bastinac to the Lions.
Interesting, North really wants to bolster their forward line but I'd put Anderson ahead of Bewick (already had limited opportunities in Brisbane and won't break into North's defence or midfield). Don't know why the Roos would want him tbh - he's a good mark but he would not be starting 22 material at the Kangas (Bastinac arguably isn't either though)
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Pkbaldy on October 20, 2015, 11:02:21 PM
Quote from: Grazz on October 20, 2015, 10:52:47 PM
Quote from: powersuperkents on October 20, 2015, 10:46:10 PM
@Rico & Pk

I completely agree. McCarthy is not a 1st tall and would be slaughtered if he moved to Freo - obviously why Freo are not willing to part with anything significant to secure him. The same problem would have occurred if Freo got Schulz (same sort of forward) and I've seen the problem with Schulz on many occasions (Schulz is athletic, runs free, and dives towards the ball - so McCarthy lacks those features that could make him serviceable as first tall).

Freo really need to look for a player comparable to Pav imo, but these players rarely leave their clubs so Taberner & Apeness seem to be the players to focus on for now.

Would Fyfe and Bennel rotating through there help him out by demanding the #1 defender goes to them or not.

I think it would depend on the team. Fyfe and McCarthy are probably around the same height. And I'd bank on Fyfe being stronger over head. So in most cases I could see the top defender (Only if quick) on Fyfe, leaving the 2nd too McCarthy. But if Bennell went forward you'd see a medium sized defender on him.

E.g For Adelaide, Cheney on Bennell, Talia on McCarthy. But once Bennell moved into the mid and Fyfe rested up forward, they'd probably swoop Talia onto Fyfe and Lever/Hendersen would take McCarthy.

Quote from: meow meow on October 20, 2015, 10:47:41 PM
Michael Talia up at Sydney getting a medical. There's talk that we're just going to delist him and the Swans will get him for nothing as a delisted free agent.

Wow... He's going to be a decent defender too! Should at least get something for him from a club...
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Mat0369 on October 20, 2015, 11:11:10 PM
Quote from: AaronKirk on October 20, 2015, 09:35:45 PM
The more I think about it Hawthorn probably would offer one of pick 15 or 18 for Yarran which is why Carlton would reject Richmond's offer.

Means really Richmond have to offer more than pick 19 to get him.

Pick 19 is probably what a fair offer is worth but you have to pay what the market is offering.

I hope Carlton push for a 1st round pick from the Crows in the deal for Menzel. If they give Menzel for Kerridge and 28 they would be getting shafted massively.

Agreed, I wouldn't think they make the move if that's the deal

Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Grazz on October 21, 2015, 12:36:27 AM
Quote from: Pkbaldy on October 20, 2015, 11:02:21 PM
Quote from: Grazz on October 20, 2015, 10:52:47 PM
Quote from: powersuperkents on October 20, 2015, 10:46:10 PM
@Rico & Pk

I completely agree. McCarthy is not a 1st tall and would be slaughtered if he moved to Freo - obviously why Freo are not willing to part with anything significant to secure him. The same problem would have occurred if Freo got Schulz (same sort of forward) and I've seen the problem with Schulz on many occasions (Schulz is athletic, runs free, and dives towards the ball - so McCarthy lacks those features that could make him serviceable as first tall).

Freo really need to look for a player comparable to Pav imo, but these players rarely leave their clubs so Taberner & Apeness seem to be the players to focus on for now.

Would Fyfe and Bennel rotating through there help him out by demanding the #1 defender goes to them or not.

I think it would depend on the team. Fyfe and McCarthy are probably around the same height. And I'd bank on Fyfe being stronger over head. So in most cases I could see the top defender (Only if quick) on Fyfe, leaving the 2nd too McCarthy. But if Bennell went forward you'd see a medium sized defender on him.

E.g For Adelaide, Cheney on Bennell, Talia on McCarthy. But once Bennell moved into the mid and Fyfe rested up forward, they'd probably swoop Talia onto Fyfe and Lever/Hendersen would take McCarthy.


Yep makes sense that.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Grazz on October 21, 2015, 01:54:31 AM
On Twitter Treloar is giving a short interview all decked out in Pies gear signing contracts, Collingwood are ballsy thats for sure haha. Pretty sure he is still a GWS player ain't he.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Ziplock on October 21, 2015, 02:14:51 AM
Quote from: Grazz on October 21, 2015, 01:54:31 AM
On Twitter Treloar is giving a short interview all decked out in Pies gear signing contracts, Collingwood are ballsy thats for sure haha. Pretty sure he is still a GWS player ain't he.

haha, all class from the pies as always :P
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Grazz on October 21, 2015, 02:27:58 AM
Quote from: Ziplock on October 21, 2015, 02:14:51 AM
Quote from: Grazz on October 21, 2015, 01:54:31 AM
On Twitter Treloar is giving a short interview all decked out in Pies gear signing contracts, Collingwood are ballsy thats for sure haha. Pretty sure he is still a GWS player ain't he.

haha, all class from the pies as always :P

Lol you gotta laugh don't ya, they just go around giving the bird to everyone. They don't give a shower.
Have you seen it on twitter Zip ?
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Money Shot on October 21, 2015, 08:43:57 AM
Apparently Yarran is considering sitting out next year if he doesn't get to Richmond :-[
I personally think 19 is slight overs for Yarran and I would just accept it as Richmond are never going to offer pick 12 for him and rightfully so.

Menzel for Kerridge, 28 and another later pick.

19,20,21 and 28 can be used on the 5 GWS boys!
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Ringo on October 21, 2015, 09:53:44 AM
Quote from: powersuperkents on October 20, 2015, 10:57:01 PM
Quote from: Nige on October 20, 2015, 10:51:24 PM
Apparently Bewick's met with North and could be a part of the deal to get Bastinac to the Lions.
Interesting, North really wants to bolster their forward line but I'd put Anderson ahead of Bewick (already had limited opportunities in Brisbane and won't break into North's defence or midfield). Don't know why the Roos would want him tbh - he's a good mark but he would not be starting 22 material at the Kangas (Bastinac arguably isn't either though)
Bewick is off contract and is a fringe player with us as well.  As i posted in Lions thread Basti would still not be guaranteed a start in Brisbanes mid field either.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: kilbluff1985 on October 21, 2015, 10:09:46 AM
do u guys think players have or do like tell opponents they want to play for them

like Treloar says to Pendles

"hey Pendles can you tell Bucks i'd love to play for you guys"

not saying that happened but wondering if people think it happens
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: RaisyDaisy on October 21, 2015, 10:19:27 AM
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on October 21, 2015, 10:09:46 AM
do u guys think players have or do like tell opponents they want to play for them

like Treloar says to Pendles

"hey Pendles can you tell Bucks i'd love to play for you guys"

not saying that happened but wondering if people think it happens

LOL, no

They would tell their managers that - not the opposition

Only instance I would think is if they are very good mates who are at different clubs and mention it in their own personal time to each other
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: PowerBug on October 21, 2015, 10:38:03 AM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on October 21, 2015, 10:19:27 AM
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on October 21, 2015, 10:09:46 AM
do u guys think players have or do like tell opponents they want to play for them

like Treloar says to Pendles

"hey Pendles can you tell Bucks i'd love to play for you guys"

not saying that happened but wondering if people think it happens

LOL, no

They would tell their managers that - not the opposition

Only instance I would think is if they are very good mates who are at different clubs and mention it in their own personal time to each other
Only Jake Carlisle tells the opposition first.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: RaisyDaisy on October 21, 2015, 10:43:22 AM
Hahaha!  ;D

Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: kilbluff1985 on October 21, 2015, 10:49:26 AM

‏@AFL_CalTwomey
Essendon retaining two second-rounders, as well as attaining pick 5, in the imminent Jake Carlisle deal is a big win.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Ricochet on October 21, 2015, 11:00:48 AM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on October 21, 2015, 10:19:27 AM
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on October 21, 2015, 10:09:46 AM
do u guys think players have or do like tell opponents they want to play for them

like Treloar says to Pendles

"hey Pendles can you tell Bucks i'd love to play for you guys"

not saying that happened but wondering if people think it happens

LOL, no

They would tell their managers that - not the opposition

Only instance I would think is if they are very good mates who are at different clubs and mention it in their own personal time to each other
Actually they have done, and still do.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Nige on October 21, 2015, 11:21:52 AM
The Lobbe to Richmond rumour has got a bit of attention this morning.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: kilbluff1985 on October 21, 2015, 11:24:17 AM
http://www.essendonfc.com.au/news/2015-10-21/don-deal
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Grazz on October 21, 2015, 11:26:10 AM
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on October 21, 2015, 10:09:46 AM
do u guys think players have or do like tell opponents they want to play for them

like Treloar says to Pendles

"hey Pendles can you tell Bucks i'd love to play for you guys"

not saying that happened but wondering if people think it happens

For sure it happens i reckon, Carlisle is by no means unique here. A suttle enquiry or question would be dropped from time to time.
Doubt it would be rampant but would occur.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: kilbluff1985 on October 21, 2015, 11:30:54 AM
Essendon
In: Craig Bird & Pick 5
Out: Jake Carlisle & Pick 44

St Kilda
In: Jake Carlisle & Pick 14
Out: Pick 5 & Pick 24

Sydney
In: Pick 24 & Pick 44
Out: Craig Bird & Pick 14
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: iZander on October 21, 2015, 11:31:53 AM
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on October 21, 2015, 11:24:17 AM
http://www.essendonfc.com.au/news/2015-10-21/don-deal
Wait, what?? We gave up Carlisle and N44 for N5 and Craig bird?? is that right?
If so thats a huge win for us tbh
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: kilbluff1985 on October 21, 2015, 11:32:54 AM
Quote from: iZander on October 21, 2015, 11:31:53 AM
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on October 21, 2015, 11:24:17 AM
http://www.essendonfc.com.au/news/2015-10-21/don-deal
Wait, what?? We gave up Carlisle and N44 for N5 and Craig bird?? is that right?
If so thats a huge win for us tbh

yep awesome result
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: iZander on October 21, 2015, 11:37:44 AM
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on October 21, 2015, 11:32:54 AM
Quote from: iZander on October 21, 2015, 11:31:53 AM
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on October 21, 2015, 11:24:17 AM
http://www.essendonfc.com.au/news/2015-10-21/don-deal
Wait, what?? We gave up Carlisle and N44 for N5 and Craig bird?? is that right?
If so thats a huge win for us tbh

yep awesome result
Holy shower, thats great! Now lets get N8 off GWS for our two second rounders  ;)
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Purple 77 on October 21, 2015, 11:37:57 AM
So Sydney just gave Bird away huh? That was nice of them  :-\
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Ricochet on October 21, 2015, 11:39:13 AM
Essendon done very well there

And Syd were just after those academy points for Mills and maybe Dunkley
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Pkbaldy on October 21, 2015, 11:39:52 AM
Awesome result for Saints and Essendon. But I feel Sydney lose big? Not even much of a gain on points?
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Big Mac on October 21, 2015, 11:42:06 AM
Quote from: Purple 77 on October 21, 2015, 11:37:57 AM
So Sydney just gave Bird away huh? That was nice of them  :-\

Yeh seems very weird  ???
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Ricochet on October 21, 2015, 11:43:15 AM
We've already passed last years total of trades made. With plenty still to come :o

It's been a very busy trade period
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Purple 77 on October 21, 2015, 11:44:47 AM
Quote from: Ricochet on October 21, 2015, 11:39:13 AM
Essendon done very well there

And Syd were just after those academy points for Mills and maybe Dunkley

I understand that, but I would have thought Pick 14 FOR Pick 24 + Pick 44 would have been fair... but even then, they only got like, 20ish more points?

That equals Bird? Dayum. I'm curious to see what Swans supporters think of that.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: RaisyDaisy on October 21, 2015, 11:46:41 AM
Just some clarification and reasoning behind it

In the deal:
- Essendon receives Bird and pick No.5, gives up Carlisle and pick No.44, and exchanges pick No.23 for pick No.24;
- St Kilda receives Carlisle and pick No.14 and gives up pick No.5 and pick No.24;
- Sydney Swans receive picks No.23 and pick No.44, and gives up pick No.14 and Bird.

The combined points from those picks (1177 points) mean the Swans will take more points to the draft to use on their academy prospect Callum Mills and potential father-son selection Josh Dunkley than they would have if they had hung on to selection No.14 (1161 points).

The Dons also managed to hang on to both their second round picks, meaning they will now head to the NAB AFL Draft with picks 4, 5, 24 and 25.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Ricochet on October 21, 2015, 11:47:09 AM
Yeh not sure Purps, maybe they couldn't get any other deals done that would have netted them more points? No idea tbh

It's coming through now that its actually 23 not 24.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Ricochet on October 21, 2015, 11:50:38 AM
Reports this will come through shortly


GC Gives: Picks 3 and 10
Melb Gives: Pick 6 and a future first round
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: iZander on October 21, 2015, 11:52:16 AM
Quote from: Ricochet on October 21, 2015, 11:50:38 AM
Reports this will come through shortly


GC Gives: Picks 3 and 10
Melb Gives: Pick 6 and a future first round
no :(
GC must be banking on melbourne not improving much haha
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: kilbluff1985 on October 21, 2015, 11:54:29 AM
Bombers not getting Parish now
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Ricochet on October 21, 2015, 11:56:16 AM
here's the full official trade

GC Give: Picks 3,10 + 43
Melb Give: Pick 6, 29 + 2016 Rd1 pick
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Purple 77 on October 21, 2015, 11:57:36 AM
Quote from: Ricochet on October 21, 2015, 11:56:16 AM
here's the full official trade

GC Give: Picks 3,10 + 43
Melb Give: Pick 6, 29 + 2016 Rd1 pick

I knew there was something to those rumours!

First deal I've actually like from the Dees all period :D

Prevents tanking tendencies for next year too :P
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Nige on October 21, 2015, 11:58:54 AM
Looks like Melboure clearly want somebody. Parish to the Dees now? 10 will get them somebody handy as well.

Gold Coast obviously happy to move down to 6 and get somebody they want.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Big Mac on October 21, 2015, 12:00:38 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on October 21, 2015, 11:56:16 AM
here's the full official trade

GC Give: Picks 3,10 + 43
Melb Give: Pick 6, 29 + 2016 Rd1 pick

Interesting

We must be real keen on someone then. Might be able to land a slider at 10 too  :)

And pick 43 for Bugg I suppose?
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Ricochet on October 21, 2015, 12:01:12 PM
Quote from: Nige on October 21, 2015, 11:58:54 AM
Looks like Melboure clearly want somebody. Parish to the Dees now? 10 will get them somebody handy as well.

Gold Coast obviously happy to move down to 6 and get somebody they want.
Yeh nearly eveyone is suggesting Parish. Stevo said this though

"Wouldn't assume pick 3 for Parish. Hearing Dees intent on tall forward to help out Hogan. Curnow name mentioned in murmurs"
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Football Factory on October 21, 2015, 12:01:40 PM
Quote from: iZander on October 21, 2015, 11:37:44 AM
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on October 21, 2015, 11:32:54 AM
Quote from: iZander on October 21, 2015, 11:31:53 AM
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on October 21, 2015, 11:24:17 AM
http://www.essendonfc.com.au/news/2015-10-21/don-deal
Wait, what?? We gave up Carlisle and N44 for N5 and Craig bird?? is that right?
If so thats a huge win for us tbh

yep awesome result
Holy shower, thats great! Now lets get N8 off GWS for our two second rounders  ;)

:)
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Purple 77 on October 21, 2015, 12:02:05 PM
So, I suppose Melbourne are assuming they'll improve and finish above 13th next year... let's be conservative (but optimistic), say they'll finish 12th.

So Pick 6, 7 + 29 FOR 3, 10 & 43...

I guess that's fair. I might lean towards us getting a small win though  :-X  :P

But, it all depends on how terrible we are next year I guess  :-X
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Ricochet on October 21, 2015, 12:03:45 PM
Looks like Rosa to GC deal done also
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Ricochet on October 21, 2015, 12:04:24 PM
 :o

Emma Quayle ‏@emmasq
Sydney has actually lost 14 points in the Carlisle trade. Must have needed the cap room. Party time for Bombers with four picks inside 25
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Purple 77 on October 21, 2015, 12:04:52 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on October 21, 2015, 12:01:12 PM
Quote from: Nige on October 21, 2015, 11:58:54 AM
Looks like Melboure clearly want somebody. Parish to the Dees now? 10 will get them somebody handy as well.

Gold Coast obviously happy to move down to 6 and get somebody they want.
Yeh nearly eveyone is suggesting Parish. Stevo said this though

"Wouldn't assume pick 3 for Parish. Hearing Dees intent on tall forward to help out Hogan. Curnow name mentioned in murmurs"

Yeah I've heard that too. Curnow is more of a tall/big bodied mid though isn't he?

I heavily doubt we'll draft a tall. Paul Roos is an  advocate of being wary on drafting talls, as he has repeatedly said it is a lot harder to judge how good a tall would be in the AFL when all you have to go in is how they do against their inexperienced and underaged peers.

I would say we'd be a lot more desperate for some outside run and, as always, talent.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Nige on October 21, 2015, 12:06:10 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on October 21, 2015, 12:01:12 PM
Quote from: Nige on October 21, 2015, 11:58:54 AM
Looks like Melboure clearly want somebody. Parish to the Dees now? 10 will get them somebody handy as well.

Gold Coast obviously happy to move down to 6 and get somebody they want.
Yeh nearly eveyone is suggesting Parish. Stevo said this though

"Wouldn't assume pick 3 for Parish. Hearing Dees intent on tall forward to help out Hogan. Curnow name mentioned in murmurs"
Oh, interesting. Parish definitely doesn't get past the Bombers then.

Curnow would make sense as he fits the bill.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Purple 77 on October 21, 2015, 12:16:33 PM
From Mahoney:

Quote“Importantly, the deal signed this morning was the original deal proposed with Gold Coast involving Jeremy Howe. We have just replaced the Howe to Gold Coast component with pick No.29 â€" the pick we received from Collingwood in the Howe trade.


So there you have it; Pick 29 = Howe.

Meaning we traded Toumpas for Bennedy + Pick 50... I feel a bit better now.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Barra13 on October 21, 2015, 12:25:59 PM
I'd say that pick 43 would be used on Bugg.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: H1bb3i2d on October 21, 2015, 12:27:26 PM
Dodoro the Wizaaaaard! Stoked 8)
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: T Dog on October 21, 2015, 12:28:31 PM
Has anyone heard if Derek Hine and his brains trust are even at the trading room?  >:(
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Nige on October 21, 2015, 12:29:13 PM
Mitch Cleary saying the Phillips, Sumner, Plowman and Lamb will all become Blues today.

You'd think they'd be traded for Carlton's picks 20 and 21?

Surely that means the Blues take 19 from us for Yarran then...
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Money Shot on October 21, 2015, 12:31:33 PM
Quote from: Nige on October 21, 2015, 12:29:13 PM
Mitch Cleary saying the Phillips, Sumner, Plowman and Lamb will all become Blues today.

You'd think they'd be traded for Carlton's picks 20 and 21?

Surely that means the Blues take 19 from us for Yarran then...
What about Tomilson :(
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Nige on October 21, 2015, 12:34:45 PM
Quote from: Money Shot on October 21, 2015, 12:31:33 PM
Quote from: Nige on October 21, 2015, 12:29:13 PM
Mitch Cleary saying the Phillips, Sumner, Plowman and Lamb will all become Blues today.

You'd think they'd be traded for Carlton's picks 20 and 21?

Surely that means the Blues take 19 from us for Yarran then...
What about Tomilson :(
I reckon Tomlinson may have been a bit more of a pipe dream than the rest.



I'm thinking that Gold Coast getting the 2016 first rounder might be their way of having an pick to lock away Brad Scheer through their academy. Pretty sure he's eligible next year. Dude will be a gun.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Nige on October 21, 2015, 12:37:39 PM
Tiges offered 12 for Lobbe, Port turned it down.

Are clubs just turning down our offers for lolz now?  :'(
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: iZander on October 21, 2015, 12:44:47 PM
Quote from: Nige on October 21, 2015, 12:37:39 PM
Tiges offered 12 for Lobbe, Port turned it down.

Are clubs just turning down our offers for lolz now?  :'(
You are offering for their vice-captain :P Probably not someone that wanted to get rid of
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Big Mac on October 21, 2015, 12:50:45 PM
So Gold Coast are loaded with picks next year right?
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Bill Manspeaker on October 21, 2015, 12:59:34 PM
great result for all. it seems weird on Sydney's end but there's gotta be a reason why. not that it worries me. stoked with Carlisle and 14  8)
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: powersuperkents on October 21, 2015, 01:02:33 PM
Quote from: Money Shot on October 21, 2015, 08:43:57 AM
Apparently Yarran is considering sitting out next year if he doesn't get to Richmond :-[
I personally think 19 is slight overs for Yarran and I would just accept it as Richmond are never going to offer pick 12 for him and rightfully so.

Menzel for Kerridge, 28 and another later pick.

19,20,21 and 28 can be used on the 5 GWS boys!
+1

Carlton are starting to become unreasonable in regards to Yarran. They traded Henderson away for about the same amount (probably a little more - a 5/9 chance of a top 10 pick).
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Money Shot on October 21, 2015, 01:04:09 PM
Quote from: Nige on October 21, 2015, 12:34:45 PM
Quote from: Money Shot on October 21, 2015, 12:31:33 PM
Quote from: Nige on October 21, 2015, 12:29:13 PM
Mitch Cleary saying the Phillips, Sumner, Plowman and Lamb will all become Blues today.

You'd think they'd be traded for Carlton's picks 20 and 21?

Surely that means the Blues take 19 from us for Yarran then...
What about Tomilson :(
I reckon Tomlinson may have been a bit more of a pipe dream than the rest.



I'm thinking that Gold Coast getting the 2016 first rounder might be their way of having an pick to lock away Brad Scheer through their academy. Pretty sure he's eligible next year. Dude will be a gun.
Oh well ... I Thought we had a real shot at him! Looks like we are going to have no talented tall forwards apart from Casboult again and I guess Everett if you play him in that role!
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: powersuperkents on October 21, 2015, 01:06:13 PM
Quote from: Pkbaldy on October 21, 2015, 11:39:52 AM
Awesome result for Saints and Essendon. But I feel Sydney lose big? Not even much of a gain on points?
Probably just wanted to stop the Hawks from swooping in
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Pkbaldy on October 21, 2015, 01:08:11 PM
Quote from: powersuperkents on October 21, 2015, 01:06:13 PM
Quote from: Pkbaldy on October 21, 2015, 11:39:52 AM
Awesome result for Saints and Essendon. But I feel Sydney lose big? Not even much of a gain on points?
Probably just wanted to stop the Hawks from swooping in

That and I think Bird has a decent contract. So now that's gone, they can get Talia without having to worry.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: powersuperkents on October 21, 2015, 01:10:36 PM
Quote from: Nige on October 21, 2015, 12:37:39 PM
Tiges offered 12 for Lobbe, Port turned it down.

Are clubs just turning down our offers for lolz now?  :'(
Joke of an offer

Port don't trade out players - Hinkley trades out picks (whether this is effective in the long-term is another question - Paul Roos proved it was, Ross Lyon proved it wasn't), so if we did trade out a player (esp. one as unique as Lobbe) we would want a starting player (I would say Dusty for Lobbe + future first rounder is fair game).

He's our Vice-captain, so pick 12 would be a rip-off
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Money Shot on October 21, 2015, 01:13:40 PM
Quote from: powersuperkents on October 21, 2015, 01:10:36 PM
Quote from: Nige on October 21, 2015, 12:37:39 PM
Tiges offered 12 for Lobbe, Port turned it down.

Are clubs just turning down our offers for lolz now?  :'(
Joke of an offer

Port don't trade out players - Hinkley trades out picks (whether this is effective in the long-term is another question - Paul Roos proved it was, Ross Lyon proved it wasn't), so if we did trade out a player (esp. one as unique as Lobbe) we would want a starting player (I would say Dusty for Lobbe + future first rounder is fair game).

He's our Vice-captain, so pick 12 would be a rip-off
Trading out players has defiantly not worked well for Carlton!
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: shaker on October 21, 2015, 01:20:05 PM
Quote from: powersuperkents on October 21, 2015, 01:10:36 PM
Quote from: Nige on October 21, 2015, 12:37:39 PM
Tiges offered 12 for Lobbe, Port turned it down.

Are clubs just turning down our offers for lolz now?  :'(
Joke of an offer

Port don't trade out players - Hinkley trades out picks (whether this is effective in the long-term is another question - Paul Roos proved it was, Ross Lyon proved it wasn't), so if we did trade out a player (esp. one as unique as Lobbe) we would want a starting player (I would say Dusty for Lobbe + future first rounder is fair game).

He's our Vice-captain, so pick 12 would be a rip-off

Hahaha VC or not don't know if you realized but Lobbe had very average year Martin + a future 1st round hang on we we just throw in Lids and Rance as well .... please  ::)
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: powersuperkents on October 21, 2015, 01:29:23 PM
Quote from: shaker on October 21, 2015, 01:20:05 PM
Quote from: powersuperkents on October 21, 2015, 01:10:36 PM
Quote from: Nige on October 21, 2015, 12:37:39 PM
Tiges offered 12 for Lobbe, Port turned it down.

Are clubs just turning down our offers for lolz now?  :'(
Joke of an offer

Port don't trade out players - Hinkley trades out picks (whether this is effective in the long-term is another question - Paul Roos proved it was, Ross Lyon proved it wasn't), so if we did trade out a player (esp. one as unique as Lobbe) we would want a starting player (I would say Dusty for Lobbe + future first rounder is fair game).

He's our Vice-captain, so pick 12 would be a rip-off

Hahaha VC or not don't know if you realized but Lobbe had very average year Martin + a future 1st round hang on we we just throw in Lids and Rance as well .... please  ::)
Even better  :P

I was still concerned that Dusty wasn't enough
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: shaker on October 21, 2015, 01:33:19 PM
Quote from: powersuperkents on October 21, 2015, 01:29:23 PM
Quote from: shaker on October 21, 2015, 01:20:05 PM
Quote from: powersuperkents on October 21, 2015, 01:10:36 PM
Quote from: Nige on October 21, 2015, 12:37:39 PM
Tiges offered 12 for Lobbe, Port turned it down.

Are clubs just turning down our offers for lolz now?  :'(
Joke of an offer

Port don't trade out players - Hinkley trades out picks (whether this is effective in the long-term is another question - Paul Roos proved it was, Ross Lyon proved it wasn't), so if we did trade out a player (esp. one as unique as Lobbe) we would want a starting player (I would say Dusty for Lobbe + future first rounder is fair game).

He's our Vice-captain, so pick 12 would be a rip-off

Hahaha VC or not don't know if you realized but Lobbe had very average year Martin + a future 1st round hang on we we just throw in Lids and Rance as well .... please  ::)
Even better  :P

I was still concerned that Dusty wasn't enough

Haha I don't even know why they are chasing him he is an ok ruckman but he is not big enough to match the big boys I think the best place for him is Port  :P
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Ricochet on October 21, 2015, 01:36:21 PM
Bullies making a big big play for Lobbe apparently
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: RaisyDaisy on October 21, 2015, 01:37:41 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on October 21, 2015, 01:36:21 PM
Bullies making a big big play for Lobbe apparently

Deadline making it unlikely. Doesn't help that Lobbe is in Vietnam now too
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Ricochet on October 21, 2015, 01:46:30 PM
Rosa officially a Sun, for pick 31
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: powersuperkents on October 21, 2015, 01:48:28 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on October 21, 2015, 01:37:41 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on October 21, 2015, 01:36:21 PM
Bullies making a big big play for Lobbe apparently

Deadline making it unlikely. Doesn't help that Lobbe is in Vietnam now too
Don't think Port would be interested in anyone on the Bulldogs list.

Maybe Dahlhaus, Macrae, Stringer, or the Bont. (they would need to package two of them for Lobbe alone, or three of them and we'll add Andrew Moore to the deal).
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Ricochet on October 21, 2015, 01:52:14 PM
Quote from: powersuperkents on October 21, 2015, 01:48:28 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on October 21, 2015, 01:37:41 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on October 21, 2015, 01:36:21 PM
Bullies making a big big play for Lobbe apparently

Deadline making it unlikely. Doesn't help that Lobbe is in Vietnam now too
Don't think Port would be interested in anyone on the Bulldogs list.

Maybe Dahlhaus, Macrae, Stringer, or the Bont. (they would need to package two of them for Lobbe alone, or three of them and we'll add Andrew Moore to the deal).
hahahahha yeh maybe...
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Barra13 on October 21, 2015, 01:54:25 PM
Quote from: powersuperkents on October 21, 2015, 01:10:36 PM
Quote from: Nige on October 21, 2015, 12:37:39 PM
Tiges offered 12 for Lobbe, Port turned it down.

Are clubs just turning down our offers for lolz now?  :'(
He's our Vice-captain, so pick 12 would be a rip-off

Vice Captain means nothing. Just ask Scott Selwood.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Ricochet on October 21, 2015, 01:56:30 PM
Quote from: Barra13 on October 21, 2015, 01:54:25 PM
Quote from: powersuperkents on October 21, 2015, 01:10:36 PM
Quote from: Nige on October 21, 2015, 12:37:39 PM
Tiges offered 12 for Lobbe, Port turned it down.

Are clubs just turning down our offers for lolz now?  :'(
He's our Vice-captain, so pick 12 would be a rip-off

Vice Captain means nothing. Just ask Scott Selwood.
And about as much as previous captains. Just ask Jed Adcock :P
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: RaisyDaisy on October 21, 2015, 01:58:14 PM
Quote from: powersuperkents on October 21, 2015, 01:48:28 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on October 21, 2015, 01:37:41 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on October 21, 2015, 01:36:21 PM
Bullies making a big big play for Lobbe apparently

Deadline making it unlikely. Doesn't help that Lobbe is in Vietnam now too
Don't think Port would be interested in anyone on the Bulldogs list.

Maybe Dahlhaus, Macrae, Stringer, or the Bont. (they would need to package two of them for Lobbe alone, or three of them and we'll add Andrew Moore to the deal).

Talk of them putting up their first rounder (11) for Lobbe. With Dixon now on board Lobbe isn't as required I guess
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Ricochet on October 21, 2015, 01:58:54 PM
Menzel for Kerridge + 28 deal done
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Money Shot on October 21, 2015, 02:01:38 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on October 21, 2015, 01:58:54 PM
Menzel for Kerridge + 28 deal done
28 for Plowman, Lamb, Sumner and Phillips and I'll be happy 8)
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Ricochet on October 21, 2015, 02:07:00 PM
The Age is reporting that GWS will give Carlton pick 8 for later picks (academy points). Unsure of the full details though
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Ricochet on October 21, 2015, 02:08:36 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on October 21, 2015, 02:07:00 PM
The Age is reporting that GWS will give Carlton pick 8 for later picks (academy points). Unsure of the full details though
Actually, sounds like the future first rounder they received from Geelong
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: elephants on October 21, 2015, 02:09:55 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on October 21, 2015, 01:52:14 PM
Quote from: powersuperkents on October 21, 2015, 01:48:28 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on October 21, 2015, 01:37:41 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on October 21, 2015, 01:36:21 PM
Bullies making a big big play for Lobbe apparently

Deadline making it unlikely. Doesn't help that Lobbe is in Vietnam now too
Don't think Port would be interested in anyone on the Bulldogs list.

Maybe Dahlhaus, Macrae, Stringer, or the Bont. (they would need to package two of them for Lobbe alone, or three of them and we'll add Andrew Moore to the deal).
hahahahha yeh maybe...

Hahahaha pls
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Money Shot on October 21, 2015, 02:11:19 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on October 21, 2015, 02:08:36 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on October 21, 2015, 02:07:00 PM
The Age is reporting that GWS will give Carlton pick 8 for later picks (academy points). Unsure of the full details though
Actually, sounds like the future first rounder they received from Geelong
I just heard that! 8)
Happy Carlton fan here 8)
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: TomK on October 21, 2015, 02:11:29 PM
Quote from: elephants on October 21, 2015, 02:09:55 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on October 21, 2015, 01:52:14 PM
Quote from: powersuperkents on October 21, 2015, 01:48:28 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on October 21, 2015, 01:37:41 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on October 21, 2015, 01:36:21 PM
Bullies making a big big play for Lobbe apparently

Deadline making it unlikely. Doesn't help that Lobbe is in Vietnam now too
Don't think Port would be interested in anyone on the Bulldogs list.

Maybe Dahlhaus, Macrae, Stringer, or the Bont. (they would need to package two of them for Lobbe alone, or three of them and we'll add Andrew Moore to the deal).
hahahahha yeh maybe...

Hahahaha pls
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: TomK on October 21, 2015, 02:13:31 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on October 21, 2015, 01:58:54 PM
Menzel for Kerridge + 28 deal done
So pumped with this, absolute steal!

Sad to see the Kedge go though, wish him all the best at Carlton, hopefully does well.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Ricochet on October 21, 2015, 02:23:48 PM
CARâ†" Pick 8 Plowman Lamb Sumner & Phillips
GWS â†" Picks 28, 77, 95 & 2016 1st Rd Pick (Gee)
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Money Shot on October 21, 2015, 02:24:25 PM
DONE DEAL: Carlton's Troy Menzel goes to Adelaide for Kerridge and pick 28
DONE DEAL: Carlton's picks 28, 77 & 95 & Geelong's 2016 1st-Rd pick go to GWS for pick No.8, Plowman, Lamb, Phillips & Sumner.

We win that trade in my opinion!
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: TomK on October 21, 2015, 02:25:51 PM
Carlton done very well in that trade, potentially why they were prepared to accept unders for Menzel.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Ricochet on October 21, 2015, 02:27:22 PM
Quote from: TomK on October 21, 2015, 02:25:51 PM
Carlton done very well in that trade, potentially why they were prepared to accept unders for Menzel.
Yeh i think so as well
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Mat0369 on October 21, 2015, 02:29:24 PM
I think we got shafted in that trade.

And the 2nd trade looks a lot better.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: RaisyDaisy on October 21, 2015, 02:39:42 PM
Pick 95. LOL, why does it even exist? haha
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Money Shot on October 21, 2015, 02:40:27 PM
Quote from: Mat0369 on October 21, 2015, 02:29:24 PM
I think we got shafted in that trade.

And the 2nd trade looks a lot better.
Although we did poorly in the first trade if you look at the bigger picture we now have picks 1, 8, 20, 21 and what ever we have for Yarran as well as Plowman, Sumner, Phillips, Lamb and Kerridge.

We have done well for the first time in a while!

Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: meow meow on October 21, 2015, 03:00:33 PM
Bizarre move from GWS. Traded 4 contracted players (3 former first round picks) for pick 28 and a first round pick downgrade.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Kellogscrunchynut on October 21, 2015, 03:08:26 PM
They really mustn't rate those players.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Pkbaldy on October 21, 2015, 03:13:51 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on October 21, 2015, 02:39:42 PM
Pick 95. LOL, why does it even exist? haha

I think Geelong have to use a few late ones :S Min 3 picks (including rookie elevations), what's their first pick this year?
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: meow meow on October 21, 2015, 03:13:54 PM
They didn't have to give up pick 8. Just cost themselves a chance to get 3 guns instead of 2.

Weit, Shac, Weid, Francis, Parish, Curnow, Balic could be the top 7, then GWS would have been able to take Milera and could still pick up the academy players with later picks.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Ricochet on October 21, 2015, 03:15:07 PM
Quote from: meow meow on October 21, 2015, 03:13:54 PM
They didn't have to give up pick 8. Just cost themselves a chance to get 3 guns instead of 2.

Weit, Shac, Weid, Francis, Parish, Curnow, Balic could be the top 7, then GWS would have been able to take Milera and could still pick up the academy players with later picks.
I think it may have something to do with a kid in the academy next year. No idea who though
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Money Shot on October 21, 2015, 03:16:31 PM
Quote from: Kellogscrunchynut on October 21, 2015, 03:08:26 PM
They really mustn't rate those players.
Pick 8 for Geelongs first is a win for us!
28 for Lamb, Summer, Phillips and Plowman is a win!
Really if one of those players becomes a decent player we easily win! All 4 have potential!
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: TomK on October 21, 2015, 03:27:31 PM
Quote from: Pkbaldy on October 21, 2015, 03:13:51 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on October 21, 2015, 02:39:42 PM
Pick 95. LOL, why does it even exist? haha

I think Geelong have to use a few late ones :S Min 3 picks (including rookie elevations), what's their first pick this year?
Geelong have 11 players out so far with only 4 incoming and their first pick is 67 :o
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Jay on October 21, 2015, 03:30:11 PM
Carlton lost the Kerridge trade, but then more than made up for it on the next one!
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Pkbaldy on October 21, 2015, 03:31:17 PM
Looks like the rumour yesterday was right.

Saints are going to try and turn Pick 14 in Freo's Lachie Weller.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Pkbaldy on October 21, 2015, 03:33:48 PM
Quote from: TomK on October 21, 2015, 03:27:31 PM
Quote from: Pkbaldy on October 21, 2015, 03:13:51 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on October 21, 2015, 02:39:42 PM
Pick 95. LOL, why does it even exist? haha

I think Geelong have to use a few late ones :S Min 3 picks (including rookie elevations), what's their first pick this year?
Geelong have 11 players out so far with only 4 incoming and their first pick is 67 :o

Yeah saw something today like they have to use pick 116 and 134 as live picks haha...
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Kellogscrunchynut on October 21, 2015, 03:54:24 PM
Quote from: Money Shot on October 21, 2015, 03:16:31 PM
Quote from: Kellogscrunchynut on October 21, 2015, 03:08:26 PM
They really mustn't rate those players.
Pick 8 for Geelongs first is a win for us!
28 for Lamb, Summer, Phillips and Plowman is a win!
Really if one of those players becomes a decent player we easily win! All 4 have potential!
Even if they all flop you could still argue it as a win.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: powersuperkents on October 21, 2015, 04:00:54 PM
Quote from: TomK on October 21, 2015, 02:25:51 PM
Carlton done very well in that trade, potentially why they were prepared to accept unders for Menzel.
+1
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: meow meow on October 21, 2015, 04:07:17 PM
Hampton, Plowman, Phillips, Lamb, Sumner. GWS are just clearing cap space so they can give a big F U to Collingwood and resign Treloar. They leaked the video to get the fans hopes up.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: elephants on October 21, 2015, 04:09:02 PM
Quote from: meow meow on October 21, 2015, 04:07:17 PM
Hampton, Plowman, Phillips, Lamb, Sumner. GWS are just clearing cap space so they can give a big F U to Collingwood and resign Treloar. They leaked the video to get the fans hopes up.

hahahaha that would be epic. It'd go down in history as the most legendary thing ever to have happened ever.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Ricochet on October 21, 2015, 04:14:33 PM
hahaha flower that would be funny
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Money Shot on October 21, 2015, 04:17:09 PM
Quote from: elephants on October 21, 2015, 04:09:02 PM
Quote from: meow meow on October 21, 2015, 04:07:17 PM
Hampton, Plowman, Phillips, Lamb, Sumner. GWS are just clearing cap space so they can give a big F U to Collingwood and resign Treloar. They leaked the video to get the fans hopes up.

hahahaha that would be epic. It'd go down in history as the most legendary thing ever to have happened ever.
If this was the case this would make my year :P
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Money Shot on October 21, 2015, 04:30:40 PM
Reports are Carlton trying to offer 20 and 21 for a higher end draft pick. Reportedly 20 and 21 for bulldogs pick 11 is on the table.

Don't know if I would be happy or sad about that :o
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: powersuperkents on October 21, 2015, 04:33:56 PM
Quote from: Money Shot on October 21, 2015, 04:30:40 PM
Reports are Carlton trying to offer 20 and 21 for a higher end draft pick. Reportedly 20 and 21 for bulldogs pick 11 is on the table.

Don't know if I would be happy or sad about that :o
What do they have to bid for Silvagni? Is he a 25-30 selection or will he be further down the order?
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Money Shot on October 21, 2015, 04:39:14 PM
Quote from: powersuperkents on October 21, 2015, 04:33:56 PM
Quote from: Money Shot on October 21, 2015, 04:30:40 PM
Reports are Carlton trying to offer 20 and 21 for a higher end draft pick. Reportedly 20 and 21 for bulldogs pick 11 is on the table.

Don't know if I would be happy or sad about that :o
What do they have to bid for Silvagni? Is he a 25-30 selection or will he be further down the order?
He should be an early 3rd round pick!
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: H1bb3i2d on October 21, 2015, 04:53:27 PM
Quote from: Money Shot on October 21, 2015, 03:16:31 PM
Quote from: Kellogscrunchynut on October 21, 2015, 03:08:26 PM
They really mustn't rate those players.
Pick 8 for Geelongs first is a win for us!
28 for Lamb, Summer, Phillips and Plowman is a win!
Really if one of those players becomes a decent player we easily win! All 4 have potential!

Yeah both those trades are crazy wins. You'd put your money at least one of those 4 players becoming better than pick 28 this year. And Geelong won't finish below 10th next year.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Ricochet on October 21, 2015, 05:28:30 PM
Treloar deal done! finally

Pies give: 7, 62 & 2016 first round pick
GWS Give: Adam Treloar & pick 28.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: elephants on October 21, 2015, 05:29:33 PM
Known it for some time but the Pies have carved right up there
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: GoLions on October 21, 2015, 05:32:41 PM
Does that mean the Pies now have two 2nd round picks to offer for Aish?
Would help with getting our academy players if so.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Ringo on October 21, 2015, 05:35:19 PM
Quote from: GoLions on October 21, 2015, 05:32:41 PM
Does that mean the Pies now have two 2nd round picks to offer for Aish?
Would help with getting our academy players if so.
Beat me to it GL but hope so.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: elephants on October 21, 2015, 05:35:56 PM
Yep Pies have two second rounders, looks pretty well done from here
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Ringo on October 21, 2015, 05:39:16 PM
Reckon it is here is the reply I received from ask Schwby

Doug Ring ‏@FFRingo52 10m10 minutes ago

#AskSchwabby Are you confident we will still have enough points to draft Keays and Hipwood if we trade pick 17,
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Brisbane Lions ‏@brisbanelions 24s25 seconds ago

@FFRingo52 Yes #AskSchwabby
3:36 PM - 21 Oct 2015 · Details

So we must assume that this will be the case as 39. 41 and 42 will not secure both if both in Top 20..
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Ricochet on October 21, 2015, 05:52:28 PM
GWS Giants trade Tomas Bugg and pick seven to Melbourne in exchange for picks 10, 43 & 64
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Bill Manspeaker on October 21, 2015, 05:54:58 PM
Melbourne are doing some great work
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: RaisyDaisy on October 21, 2015, 05:55:12 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on October 21, 2015, 05:52:28 PM
GWS Giants trade Tomas Bugg and pick seven to Melbourne in exchange for picks 10, 43 & 64

Am I missing something or is that a big win for Melbourne? 7 and Bugg over 10 and junk picks seems like a massive win, and doesn't make sense
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Purple 77 on October 21, 2015, 06:00:06 PM
WOW!

DID NOT EXPECT TODAY!

WHAT A MASSIVE WIN!
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: shaker on October 21, 2015, 06:00:42 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on October 21, 2015, 05:55:12 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on October 21, 2015, 05:52:28 PM
GWS Giants trade Tomas Bugg and pick seven to Melbourne in exchange for picks 10, 43 & 64

Am I missing something or is that a big win for Melbourne? 7 and Bugg over 10 and junk picks seems like a massive win, and doesn't make sense

Yeah seems pretty good to me RD wish the Tiges could get involved in some of this  :P
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Purple 77 on October 21, 2015, 06:01:09 PM
Melbourne also traded Jack Fitzpatrick (who was delisted) to Hawthorn for Pick 94)
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: elephants on October 21, 2015, 06:03:47 PM
Niiiiice Dees!

More academy points for GWS?
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Toga on October 21, 2015, 06:05:19 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on October 21, 2015, 05:55:12 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on October 21, 2015, 05:52:28 PM
GWS Giants trade Tomas Bugg and pick seven to Melbourne in exchange for picks 10, 43 & 64

Am I missing something or is that a big win for Melbourne? 7 and Bugg over 10 and junk picks seems like a massive win, and doesn't make sense

Academy points system...

Really changing the way clubs go about trading. Clubs are winning big by packaging up later picks (worth a combined more points, which they don't necessarily need) for early picks which don't really make a difference to the academy clubs who would have to spend them anyway. Looks like the academy clubs are getting shafted, but really both teams are winning out.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: elephants on October 21, 2015, 06:08:00 PM
Quote from: Toga on October 21, 2015, 06:05:19 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on October 21, 2015, 05:55:12 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on October 21, 2015, 05:52:28 PM
GWS Giants trade Tomas Bugg and pick seven to Melbourne in exchange for picks 10, 43 & 64

Am I missing something or is that a big win for Melbourne? 7 and Bugg over 10 and junk picks seems like a massive win, and doesn't make sense

Academy points system...

Really changing the way clubs go about trading. Clubs are winning big by packaging up later picks (worth a combined more points, which they don't necessarily need) for early picks which don't really make a difference to the academy clubs who would have to spend them anyway. Looks like the academy clubs are getting shafted, but really both teams are winning out.

Only teams getting shafted are those not involved!
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Ringo on October 21, 2015, 06:14:36 PM
Would expect some more exchange of picks tomorrow as well when clubs with academy and father/son picks likely going in Top 20 assess what they need. This why I think Brisbane will accept pies 2 second rounders for Aish. Either that or keep 17 and send Aish to North for Basti. Remember it is Aish that wants to go to Pies so up to them to make it happen not Brisbane's problem.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Toga on October 21, 2015, 06:15:27 PM
Quote from: elephants on October 21, 2015, 06:08:00 PM
Only teams getting shafted are those not involved!

Exactly!

Melbourne wins by getting a substantial pick upgrade at little cost.

GWS it doesn't really affect as they will have to lose that pick anyways, so they are just gaining extra points later so they don't lose later picks.

Clubs that aren't getting involved in the process are the ones that get shafted!
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Big Mac on October 21, 2015, 06:15:36 PM
Quote from: Purple 77 on October 21, 2015, 06:00:06 PM
WOW!

DID NOT EXPECT TODAY!

WHAT A MASSIVE WIN!

NEITHER DID I

;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Purple 77 on October 21, 2015, 06:16:43 PM
Maybe Melbourne said they wouldn't bid on an GWS academy players?  :o

But yeah, the way top draft picks are traded have changed!

Maybe this academy isn't such a bad thing after all? :P
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: elephants on October 21, 2015, 06:18:02 PM
Yo Carlton, pick 31, 35 and 37 for pick 1?!
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Cambo on October 21, 2015, 06:27:29 PM
Quote from: Ringo on October 21, 2015, 06:14:36 PM
Would expect some more exchange of picks tomorrow as well when clubs with academy and father/son picks likely going in Top 20 assess what they need. This why I think Brisbane will accept pies 2 second rounders for Aish. Either that or keep 17 and send Aish to North for Basti. Remember it is Aish that wants to go to Pies so up to them to make it happen not Brisbane's problem.

Brisbane will go back on their lame attempt at a tough stance and roll over.   Aish will be a Pie tomorrow  ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: powersuperkents on October 21, 2015, 07:36:06 PM
Quote from: elephants on October 21, 2015, 06:03:47 PM
Niiiiice Dees!

More academy points for GWS?
yeah I'm pretty sure that clubs can now pass on their later picks and use the points next season (i.e. they accumulate rather than expire) to recruit future academy players

GWS are probably trying to bank as much as they can for next year so they won't have to use their first rounder (well that's what I heard earlier in the year)
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: powersuperkents on October 21, 2015, 07:37:38 PM
Quote from: Cambo on October 21, 2015, 06:27:29 PM
Quote from: Ringo on October 21, 2015, 06:14:36 PM
Would expect some more exchange of picks tomorrow as well when clubs with academy and father/son picks likely going in Top 20 assess what they need. This why I think Brisbane will accept pies 2 second rounders for Aish. Either that or keep 17 and send Aish to North for Basti. Remember it is Aish that wants to go to Pies so up to them to make it happen not Brisbane's problem.

Brisbane will go back on their lame attempt at a tough stance and roll over.   Aish will be a Pie tomorrow  ;D ;D ;D
Different team, same spud  :P
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Ricochet on October 21, 2015, 08:08:19 PM
Sounds like Carlisle has gone and done a Bennell
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: LF on October 21, 2015, 08:14:06 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on October 21, 2015, 08:08:19 PM
Sounds like Carlisle has gone and done a Bennell

Yeah just saw that
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Pkbaldy on October 21, 2015, 08:15:01 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on October 21, 2015, 08:08:19 PM
Sounds like Carlisle has gone and done a Bennell

He managed to flower it up quicker than Lovett. Nice... Hoping it's at least a 2-3 year old picture... Anyway, most of the players go to Bali for the same reason.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Jukes on October 21, 2015, 08:19:26 PM
Hahaha

Karma for not giving up pick 5 quicker :P
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Mat0369 on October 21, 2015, 08:24:18 PM
(http://content.boards.philadelphiaeagles.com/public/style_emoticons/default/sideroll.gif)

What an f'ing moron. Good work Carlton avoiding this me first mess.

Poor Saints though, it was probably Essendon that leaked it. Funnily enough it came out just after the trade went through
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Mat0369 on October 21, 2015, 08:29:25 PM
I am half watching the video on the ACA website, he sent it to some dudes on Snapchat (http://content.boards.philadelphiaeagles.com/public/style_emoticons/default/sideroll.gif)

The thing is if he has gone the Taylor Dureya this would make it even funnier
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Toga on October 21, 2015, 08:41:55 PM
Quote from: Mat0369 on October 21, 2015, 08:29:25 PM
I am half watching the video on the ACA website, he sent it to some dudes on Snapchat (http://content.boards.philadelphiaeagles.com/public/style_emoticons/default/sideroll.gif)

The thing is if he has gone the Taylor Dureya this would make it even funnier

I'm lost haha.....?
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Mat0369 on October 21, 2015, 08:45:52 PM
Quote from: Toga on October 21, 2015, 08:41:55 PM
I'm lost haha.....?

http://www.9news.com.au/national/2015/10/21/19/01/selfie-video-allegedly-depicts-afl-player-jake-carlisle-snorting-white-powder

Taylor Duryea last year took a photo of himself pretending to take drugs and posted it on Facebook before deleting it. It made the media this year and he has been target tested since and come up clean on all tests. Carlisle has sent a Snapchat to someone of himself doing a Harley. The guy recorded it on another phone and took it to ACA. The thing is he could have been doing a Duryea so he will get target tested regardless now
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Toga on October 21, 2015, 09:19:02 PM
Far out :-X Not a good look regardless.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: RaisyDaisy on October 21, 2015, 09:25:25 PM
Curious to hear a statement out of the Carlisle camp, but that images don't 100% confirm it's him I reckon. Looks likely, but not definite just yet
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Purple 77 on October 21, 2015, 09:43:01 PM
Kinda funny
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: iZander on October 21, 2015, 09:46:25 PM
Quote from: Purple 77 on October 21, 2015, 09:43:01 PM
Kinda funny
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Money Shot on October 21, 2015, 10:27:25 PM
If Carlton get pick 12 for Yarran I will be the happiest man on this earth!

Also reports that we are still trying to get Tomilson in!
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Grazz on October 21, 2015, 11:53:35 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on October 21, 2015, 09:25:25 PM
Curious to hear a statement out of the Carlisle camp, but that images don't 100% confirm it's him I reckon. Looks likely, but not definite just yet

Hope it's not him for the Saint's sake, be a crying shame to go through all they have to land him then have this break in the media almost immediately. Flower they'd be filthy if it is considering his manager kept it all hush hush after ACA contacted him. The fact he did keep it quite makes me suspicious it is him, silence can be deafening sometimes but im really hoping it's not. Im not a fan of his but i'd be pissed if it were someone we'd just drafted so I feel for the Saint's.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Pkbaldy on October 22, 2015, 12:09:19 AM
At most he'll get a strike from the club. He's 24 years old for flower sake. I don't know too many 24 year olds who haven't tried some drugs. And I don't think he's the brighest cookie as is...

Funny how this is more talked about than the 2 Hawks who apparently raped or sexually abused someone... Oh wait nevermind... It was the Hawks again.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Grazz on October 22, 2015, 12:21:55 AM
Quote from: Pkbaldy on October 22, 2015, 12:09:19 AM
At most he'll get a strike from the club. He's 24 years old for flower sake. I don't know too many 24 year olds who haven't tried some drugs. And I don't think he's the brighest cookie as is...

Funny how this is more talked about than the 2 Hawks who apparently raped or sexually abused someone... Oh wait nevermind... It was the Hawks again.

Yeh lets face it mate there would not be to many clubs if any where something similar hasn't or isn't going on my club included.
Ive heard rumblings about a player at our club and if ones doing/done it dare say a couple more are/have. None the less still disappointing when the story breaks but atleast no reflection on your mob he wasn't there.
Regarding the Hawks case thats just a ticking time bomb, when the names do come to light KABOOOOM it will go big.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Bill Manspeaker on October 22, 2015, 01:37:06 AM
Quote from: Grazz on October 22, 2015, 12:21:55 AM
Quote from: Pkbaldy on October 22, 2015, 12:09:19 AM
At most he'll get a strike from the club. He's 24 years old for flower sake. I don't know too many 24 year olds who haven't tried some drugs. And I don't think he's the brighest cookie as is...

Funny how this is more talked about than the 2 Hawks who apparently raped or sexually abused someone... Oh wait nevermind... It was the Hawks again.

Yeh lets face it mate there would not be to many clubs if any where something similar hasn't or isn't going on my club included.
Ive heard rumblings about a player at our club and if ones doing/done it dare say a couple more are/have. None the less still disappointing when the story breaks but atleast no reflection on your mob he wasn't there.
Regarding the Hawks case thats just a ticking time bomb, when the names do come to light KABOOOOM it will go big.

that's just it mate. anyone who can't see that have their head in the sand

imo it's a non issue. I hope our guys have the sense to let it through to the keeper. no one's gonna care when he and Hughy are destroying forwards

and again, that's even if it is in fact him. or if it is, if it's even coke. too many questions to hang the bloke. be an interesting morning tomorrow
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Grazz on October 22, 2015, 02:01:37 AM
Agree wait until all the facts are in before we cook anyone.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: elephants on October 22, 2015, 02:49:55 AM
Agree with Pk that sexual assault is waaaaaay more serious than a footballer using rec drugs during his offseason.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Football Factory on October 22, 2015, 10:57:53 AM
IF IT IS ACTUALLY HIM ?

I think it was the fact that he had just been signed (couple of hours) by the Saints, came as a big surprise/shock. Not the best look when you first go to a club .. I personally couldn't give a crap, players let their hair down and do silly things sometimes after a long hard season. These things happen all the time in and outside of the AFL, it doesn't make it right but as PK stated its not as bad as a sexual assault but it is news and its news people want to hear and discuss unfortunately.

Slap on the hand from Saints, don't do it again, lets move on.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Bill Manspeaker on October 22, 2015, 11:00:39 AM
dodgy from Essendon too.  they knew of this before demanding pick 5, then a couple hours later - it's released. dodgy. as. flower.

we should get pick 5 back and be able to take him through the PSD
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Holz on October 22, 2015, 11:09:39 AM
Quote from: FOOTBALL FACTORY on October 22, 2015, 10:57:53 AM
IF IT IS ACTUALLY HIM ?

I think it was the fact that he had just been signed (couple of hours) by the Saints, came as a big surprise/shock. Not the best look when you first go to a club .. I personally couldn't give a crap, players let their hair down and do silly things sometimes after a long hard season. These things happen all the time in and outside of the AFL, it doesn't make it right but as PK stated its not as bad as a sexual assault but it is news and its news people want to hear and discuss unfortunately.

Slap on the hand from Saints, don't do it again, lets move on.

its not a slap on the wrist or a silly thing,  Its illegal "$3,000 and/or one year’s imprisonment for possession/use"

Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Ricochet on October 22, 2015, 11:10:33 AM
McCarthy's manager has said there probably won't be anything done today re his move to Freo.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Bill Manspeaker on October 22, 2015, 11:14:17 AM
Quote from: Ricochet on October 22, 2015, 11:10:33 AM
McCarthy's manager has said there probably won't be anything done today re his move to Freo.

boooooo :(
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Ricochet on October 22, 2015, 11:18:25 AM
Quote from: Bill Manspeaker on October 22, 2015, 11:14:17 AM
Quote from: Ricochet on October 22, 2015, 11:10:33 AM
McCarthy's manager has said there probably won't be anything done today re his move to Freo.

boooooo :(
;D
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Bill Manspeaker on October 22, 2015, 11:22:32 AM
Quote from: Ricochet on October 22, 2015, 11:18:25 AM
Quote from: Bill Manspeaker on October 22, 2015, 11:14:17 AM
Quote from: Ricochet on October 22, 2015, 11:10:33 AM
McCarthy's manager has said there probably won't be anything done today re his move to Freo.

boooooo :(
;D
(http://i.imgur.com/YVwP1UF.gif)
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Ricochet on October 22, 2015, 11:23:49 AM
hahaha how good.


I think i'm the only Freo supporter around that wasn't that keen on paying that much for McCarthy
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Ricochet on October 22, 2015, 11:29:42 AM
This one has been confirmed this morning

Hawthorn Give: 55 and 58
GWS Give: 48
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: elephants on October 22, 2015, 11:51:07 AM
flower West Coast get in on this pick upgrade action. Three second rounders for a top 15 pick! :P
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Money Shot on October 22, 2015, 11:59:19 AM
I really hope yaz stays a blue :-[
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: meow meow on October 22, 2015, 12:09:12 PM
Carlisle has just apologised for his "inappropriate behaviour". Those people who had doubts that it was him should have realised that channel 9 would get the shower sued out of them if it wasn't him. They would have been certain before they ran the story.

Nothing will come of this.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Holz on October 22, 2015, 12:11:03 PM
Quote from: meow meow on October 22, 2015, 12:09:12 PM
Carlisle has just apologised for his "inappropriate behaviour". Those people who had doubts that it was him should have realised that channel 9 would get the shower sued out of them if it wasn't him. They would have been certain before they ran the story.

Nothing will come of this.

annoying how 90% of people would get fired immediately if they did this.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Dave085 on October 22, 2015, 01:13:16 PM
Quote from: meow meow on October 22, 2015, 12:09:12 PM
Carlisle has just apologised for his "inappropriate behaviour". Those people who had doubts that it was him should have realised that channel 9 would get the shower sued out of them if it wasn't him. They would have been certain before they ran the story.

Nothing will come of this.

They have no accountability with their reporting for certain topics so I don't think they would really care.

The AFL stance on illicit drug use is piss poor. Any other professional would lose their job over something like this.

And to put some sort of perspective to how poor the stance is, Dave Reynolds (V8 Supercar driver) was fined $25,000 for referring to an all female driving line up at Bathurst as the "person wagon". Lets see what Carlisle gets... 
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: RaisyDaisy on October 22, 2015, 01:14:53 PM
Love how we never actually admitted to taking drugs - just to being an idiot

On a completely separate note, Dangerfield to wear 35 at Cats
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Grazz on October 22, 2015, 01:34:20 PM
Lions get Bastinac, Pies get Aish in a 3 way deal for picks etc.


AFL ‏@AFL  24s24 seconds ago
James Aish has been traded to Collingwood, Ryan Bastinac to the Brisbane Lions, with draft picks also involved. #TradePeriod
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Ricochet on October 22, 2015, 01:35:35 PM
Yep here it is

Bastinac to Brisbane.
Pies trade pick 26 and 2016 r2 pick for Aish.
North get picks 17 + 26
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Ricochet on October 22, 2015, 01:40:17 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on October 22, 2015, 01:35:35 PM
Yep here it is

Bastinac to Brisbane.
Pies trade pick 26 and 2016 r2 pick for Aish.
North get picks 17 + 26
Actually there's a bit more too it i think.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: RaisyDaisy on October 22, 2015, 01:43:49 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on October 22, 2015, 01:40:17 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on October 22, 2015, 01:35:35 PM
Yep here it is

Bastinac to Brisbane.
Pies trade pick 26 and 2016 r2 pick for Aish.
North get picks 17 + 26
Actually there's a bit more too it i think.

James Aish, picks 28, 34, 47, 53 to COLLINGWOOD, Ryan Bastinac, picks 38, 40 & 2016 second-round and third-round pick to BRISBANE LIONS, Picks 17 and 26 to NORTH MELBOURNE
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Football Factory on October 22, 2015, 02:06:04 PM
Quote from: Holz on October 22, 2015, 11:09:39 AM
Quote from: FOOTBALL FACTORY on October 22, 2015, 10:57:53 AM
IF IT IS ACTUALLY HIM ?

I think it was the fact that he had just been signed (couple of hours) by the Saints, came as a big surprise/shock. Not the best look when you first go to a club .. I personally couldn't give a crap, players let their hair down and do silly things sometimes after a long hard season. These things happen all the time in and outside of the AFL, it doesn't make it right but as PK stated its not as bad as a sexual assault but it is news and its news people want to hear and discuss unfortunately.

Slap on the hand from Saints, don't do it again, lets move on.

its not a slap on the wrist or a silly thing,  Its illegal "$3,000 and/or one year’s imprisonment for possession/use"

Wont be playing many games next year from prison  ;D

I don't think I can see him getting locked up for it or worrying about $3000

IMO I think the Saints will give him a good talking to and that will be the end of it ?
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Ringo on October 22, 2015, 02:10:58 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on October 22, 2015, 01:43:49 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on October 22, 2015, 01:40:17 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on October 22, 2015, 01:35:35 PM
Yep here it is

Bastinac to Brisbane.
Pies trade pick 26 and 2016 r2 pick for Aish.
North get picks 17 + 26
Actually there's a bit more too it i think.

James Aish, picks 28, 34, 47, 53 to COLLINGWOOD, Ryan Bastinac, picks 38, 40 & 2016 second-round and third-round pick to BRISBANE LIONS, Picks 17 and 26 to NORTH MELBOURNE
Not too bad a trade considering we get and extra Rd 2 and Rd 3 picks next year for Academy Picks.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Nige on October 22, 2015, 02:11:04 PM
So according to Emma Quayle - Richmond offered 12 for Yarran and 20 and Carlton knocked it back.

20 on top of Yarran is interesting, but even when we offer them 12 they don't want it? flower off.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Ricochet on October 22, 2015, 02:12:45 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on October 22, 2015, 01:43:49 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on October 22, 2015, 01:40:17 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on October 22, 2015, 01:35:35 PM
Yep here it is

Bastinac to Brisbane.
Pies trade pick 26 and 2016 r2 pick for Aish.
North get picks 17 + 26
Actually there's a bit more too it i think.

James Aish, picks 28, 34, 47, 53 to COLLINGWOOD, Ryan Bastinac, picks 38, 40 & 2016 second-round and third-round pick to BRISBANE LIONS, Picks 17 and 26 to NORTH MELBOURNE

It's actually this officially

Lions Get: Bastinac, 38, 40 + next years 2nd and 3rd rounder
North Get: 17, 26, 28, 47
Pies Get: Aish, 34, 53
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: quinny88 on October 22, 2015, 02:13:42 PM
1 hour to go..
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Mat0369 on October 22, 2015, 02:13:57 PM
It's because you want 20. Our stance is 12 and 12 alone. Why would we give up pick 20 when you offered 19 straight up for Yaz?
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: powersuperkents on October 22, 2015, 02:14:25 PM
Quote from: Dave085 on October 22, 2015, 01:13:16 PM
Quote from: meow meow on October 22, 2015, 12:09:12 PM
Carlisle has just apologised for his "inappropriate behaviour". Those people who had doubts that it was him should have realised that channel 9 would get the shower sued out of them if it wasn't him. They would have been certain before they ran the story.

Nothing will come of this.

They have no accountability with their reporting for certain topics so I don't think they would really care.

The AFL stance on illicit drug use is piss poor. Any other professional would lose their job over something like this.

And to put some sort of perspective to how poor the stance is, Dave Reynolds (V8 Supercar driver) was fined $25,000 for referring to an all female driving line up at Bathurst as the "person wagon". Lets see what Carlisle gets...
It's called defamation mate. If it was not Carlisle in the video he could easily have sued them for damages.

When people say the media has no accountability with certain topics it refers to political communications or the advancement of education - Carlisle snorting drugs fits into neither of the aforementioned categories  :P
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Pkbaldy on October 22, 2015, 02:17:10 PM
Quote from: Holz on October 22, 2015, 12:11:03 PM
Quote from: meow meow on October 22, 2015, 12:09:12 PM
Carlisle has just apologised for his "inappropriate behaviour". Those people who had doubts that it was him should have realised that channel 9 would get the shower sued out of them if it wasn't him. They would have been certain before they ran the story.

Nothing will come of this.

annoying how 90% of people would get fired immediately if they did this.

I myself believe that drink driving should be a worse penalty than using a party drug... Drink Driving you're endangering everyone on the road. Party drug you're only endangering yourself. If he somehow gets a worse punishment than Hodge, i'll be flowering pissed off.

On a lighter note. Looks like McCarthy isn't going  :'( Soon my beautiful Weller, you will be ours one day.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: meow meow on October 22, 2015, 02:18:24 PM
They lodged them as 3 seperate trades, which is odd.

Pies give pick 26 & St Kilda's 2016 2nd round pick to Brisbane for Aish.
Pies give pick 28 & 47 for North's 34 and 53.
North give Bastinac, 38, 40, 2016 3rd round pick and receive picks 17 and 26 from Brisbane

So Lions gave up Aish, 17 for Bastinac, St Kilda's 2016 2nd round pick, 38, 40 and NM's 2016 3rd rounder
North give up Basti, 34, 38, 40, 53, 2016 3rd round pick for picks 17, 26, 28, 47
Collingwood give St Kilda's 2016 2nd rounder, 26, 28, 47 for Aish, 34, 53
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: TomK on October 22, 2015, 02:19:44 PM
WC 36 & 37 to Sydney for 23 is done
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Ricochet on October 22, 2015, 02:23:02 PM
Carlton trade 20, 21 and next years 4th rounder
Bullies trade 11 and next years 3rd roudner
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Ricochet on October 22, 2015, 02:24:23 PM
You'd think Blues will use either 8 or 11 to try get Tomlinson now
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Barra13 on October 22, 2015, 02:24:39 PM
Quote from: Dave085 on October 22, 2015, 01:13:16 PM
Quote from: meow meow on October 22, 2015, 12:09:12 PM
Carlisle has just apologised for his "inappropriate behaviour". Those people who had doubts that it was him should have realised that channel 9 would get the shower sued out of them if it wasn't him. They would have been certain before they ran the story.

Nothing will come of this.

They have no accountability with their reporting for certain topics so I don't think they would really care.

The AFL stance on illicit drug use is piss poor. Any other professional would lose their job over something like this.

And to put some sort of perspective to how poor the stance is, Dave Reynolds (V8 Supercar driver) was fined $25,000 for referring to an all female driving line up at Bathurst as the "person wagon". Lets see what Carlisle gets...

Hahaha, Davey Reynolds has some classics.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: meow meow on October 22, 2015, 02:28:44 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on October 22, 2015, 02:23:02 PM
Carlton trade 20, 21 and next years 4th rounder
Bullies trade 11 and next years 3rd roudner

Our 3rd rounder will be one spot earlier than Carlton's 4th rounder next year :D
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Football Factory on October 22, 2015, 02:30:41 PM
Quote from: Barra13 on October 22, 2015, 02:24:39 PM
Quote from: Dave085 on October 22, 2015, 01:13:16 PM
Quote from: meow meow on October 22, 2015, 12:09:12 PM
Carlisle has just apologised for his "inappropriate behaviour". Those people who had doubts that it was him should have realised that channel 9 would get the shower sued out of them if it wasn't him. They would have been certain before they ran the story.

Nothing will come of this.

They have no accountability with their reporting for certain topics so I don't think they would really care.

The AFL stance on illicit drug use is piss poor. Any other professional would lose their job over something like this.

And to put some sort of perspective to how poor the stance is, Dave Reynolds (V8 Supercar driver) was fined $25,000 for referring to an all female driving line up at Bathurst as the "person wagon". Lets see what Carlisle gets...

Hahaha, Davey Reynolds has some classics.

Had a good laugh when I read this  ;D  $25,000  :o
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Ricochet on October 22, 2015, 02:32:17 PM
Yarran deal done. For pick 19
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Nige on October 22, 2015, 02:33:10 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on October 22, 2015, 02:32:17 PM
Yarran deal done. For pick 19
8)

Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: RiOtChEsS on October 22, 2015, 02:34:57 PM
Quote from: Nige on October 22, 2015, 02:33:10 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on October 22, 2015, 02:32:17 PM
Yarran deal done. For pick 19
8)
source?
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Bill Manspeaker on October 22, 2015, 02:38:42 PM
Quote from: RiOtChEsS on October 22, 2015, 02:34:57 PM
Quote from: Nige on October 22, 2015, 02:33:10 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on October 22, 2015, 02:32:17 PM
Yarran deal done. For pick 19
8)
source?
done deal according to trade radio
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: RiOtChEsS on October 22, 2015, 02:41:01 PM
Quote from: Bill Manspeaker on October 22, 2015, 02:38:42 PM
Quote from: RiOtChEsS on October 22, 2015, 02:34:57 PM
Quote from: Nige on October 22, 2015, 02:33:10 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on October 22, 2015, 02:32:17 PM
Yarran deal done. For pick 19
8)
source?
done deal according to trade radio
fair enough, chat hasnt picked it up yet
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: meow meow on October 22, 2015, 02:41:37 PM
GWS trade picks 27, 66, 77, 84 to Collingwood for 34, 53, 63
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Rusty00 on October 22, 2015, 02:44:01 PM
Quote from: TomK on October 22, 2015, 02:19:44 PM
WC 36 & 37 to Sydney for 23 is done
There you go Ele ;)
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Southstorm on October 22, 2015, 02:50:39 PM
Quote from: Bill Manspeaker on October 22, 2015, 11:00:39 AM
dodgy from Essendon too.  they knew of this before demanding pick 5, then a couple hours later - it's released. dodgy. as. flower.
How do you know that we knew this? What's your source? If it somehow made it's way to our club then how did no other club in the competition find out about it?

Quotewe should get pick 5 back and be able to take him through the PSD
Trade ain't gonna be reversed brah.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: meow meow on October 22, 2015, 02:51:16 PM
Talia & #69 for Sydney's 2016 4th round pick.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Ricochet on October 22, 2015, 02:51:52 PM
Quote from: meow meow on October 22, 2015, 02:51:16 PM
Talia & #69 for Sydney's 2016 4th round pick.
Good get there by Swans
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: quinny88 on October 22, 2015, 02:54:33 PM
Finally Carlton took their hand off it!
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Nige on October 22, 2015, 02:57:23 PM
All these picks being traded. I wanna know what the draft order looks like now.  :P
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: meow meow on October 22, 2015, 02:58:53 PM
GC trade 35 & 61 to Freo for 56 and 2016 2nd rounder
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Big Mac on October 22, 2015, 03:01:28 PM
So GC have an extra first rounder next year and 3 extra 2nd rounders?
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: PowerBug on October 22, 2015, 03:02:06 PM
flower glad that's over. Does no one like their draft picks??
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Kellogscrunchynut on October 22, 2015, 03:03:25 PM
Only 6 of this years first round picks weren't involved in a trade blimey.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Ricochet on October 22, 2015, 03:05:04 PM
So where did that hussy 28 end up?
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Rusty00 on October 22, 2015, 03:08:08 PM
Quote from: Big  Mac on October 22, 2015, 03:01:28 PM
So GC have an extra first rounder next year and 3 extra 2nd rounders?
They're hoarding draft picks just to annoy TBag again ;)
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Nige on October 22, 2015, 03:13:32 PM
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2015-10-22/indicative-draft-order-your-clubs-provisional-picks-as-trade-period-unfolds

That's our order.

Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: JBs-Hawks on October 22, 2015, 03:15:42 PM
Damn was hoping we'd nab Yarren!
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Bill Manspeaker on October 22, 2015, 03:17:15 PM
Quote from: Southstorm on October 22, 2015, 02:50:39 PM
Quote from: Bill Manspeaker on October 22, 2015, 11:00:39 AM
dodgy from Essendon too.  they knew of this before demanding pick 5, then a couple hours later - it's released. dodgy. as. flower.
How do you know that we knew this? What's your source? If it somehow made it's way to our club then how did no other club in the competition find out about it?

Quotewe should get pick 5 back and be able to take him through the PSD
Trade ain't gonna be reversed brah.

no source, just remember reading it somewhere. wouldn't surprise me if it was true. would surprise me if it wasn't

also didn't want the trade reversed. I'm happy to have Carlisle on our list. getting 5 back would've been nice, obviously wasn't gonna happen though
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Ringo on October 22, 2015, 03:18:14 PM
Quote from: Big  Mac on October 22, 2015, 03:01:28 PM
So GC have an extra first rounder next year and 3 extra 2nd rounders?
Suns looking to shore up next years pick when boom teenager Jack Bowles is of draft age. Will probably be in Top 3 so need to have picks up their sleeve.  A couple of others of their youngsters coming on stream as well.  The 2 Northern Academies are just starting to produce quality players.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Grazz on October 22, 2015, 03:20:41 PM
Quote from: powersuperkents on October 22, 2015, 02:14:25 PM
Quote from: Dave085 on October 22, 2015, 01:13:16 PM
Quote from: meow meow on October 22, 2015, 12:09:12 PM
Carlisle has just apologised for his "inappropriate behaviour". Those people who had doubts that it was him should have realised that channel 9 would get the shower sued out of them if it wasn't him. They would have been certain before they ran the story.

Nothing will come of this.

They have no accountability with their reporting for certain topics so I don't think they would really care.

The AFL stance on illicit drug use is piss poor. Any other professional would lose their job over something like this.

And to put some sort of perspective to how poor the stance is, Dave Reynolds (V8 Supercar driver) was fined $25,000 for referring to an all female driving line up at Bathurst as the "person wagon". Lets see what Carlisle gets...
It's called defamation mate. If it was not Carlisle in the video he could easily have sued them for damages.

When people say the media has no accountability with certain topics it refers to political communications or the advancement of education - Carlisle snorting drugs fits into neither of the aforementioned categories  :P

That's the beauty of the word "Allegedly" lets them get away with alot.

Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Nige on October 22, 2015, 03:22:03 PM
Quote from: Ringo on October 22, 2015, 03:18:14 PM
Quote from: Big  Mac on October 22, 2015, 03:01:28 PM
So GC have an extra first rounder next year and 3 extra 2nd rounders?
Suns looking to shore up next years pick when boom teenager Jack Bowles is of draft age. Will probably be in Top 3 so need to have picks up their sleeve.  A couple of others of their youngsters coming on stream as well.  The 2 Northern Academies are just starting to produce quality players.
Yep. They've got some good academy boys coming through. Bowes and Scheer are pretty highly rated.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Rusty00 on October 22, 2015, 03:22:34 PM
Quote from: Nige on October 22, 2015, 03:13:32 PM
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2015-10-22/indicative-draft-order-your-clubs-provisional-picks-as-trade-period-unfolds

That's our order.
I love how Pick 19 originated in 2011
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Grazz on October 22, 2015, 03:26:06 PM
Quote from: Pkbaldy on October 22, 2015, 02:17:10 PM
Quote from: Holz on October 22, 2015, 12:11:03 PM
Quote from: meow meow on October 22, 2015, 12:09:12 PM
Carlisle has just apologised for his "inappropriate behaviour". Those people who had doubts that it was him should have realised that channel 9 would get the shower sued out of them if it wasn't him. They would have been certain before they ran the story.

Nothing will come of this.

annoying how 90% of people would get fired immediately if they did this.

I myself believe that drink driving should be a worse penalty than using a party drug... Drink Driving you're endangering everyone on the road. Party drug you're only endangering yourself. If he somehow gets a worse punishment than Hodge, i'll be flowering pissed off.

On a lighter note. Looks like McCarthy isn't going  :'( Soon my beautiful Weller, you will be ours one day.

Hodge's punishment was the embarrassment of getting caught and his DUI fine, yep a $5k fine to charity but remember that $5k now becomes a tax deduction and a fair percentage of that will be recouped. Major reason clubs have players pay a fine to charities, seems like a good thing to do and is but their able to claim it at tax time, very clever. 
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Nige on October 22, 2015, 03:36:56 PM
Quote from: Rusty00 on October 22, 2015, 03:22:34 PM
Quote from: Nige on October 22, 2015, 03:13:32 PM
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2015-10-22/indicative-draft-order-your-clubs-provisional-picks-as-trade-period-unfolds

That's our order.
I love how Pick 19 originated in 2011
Haha yep, it was honestly one of the reasons I wanted Carlton to take it. Just so that it moved again. Should be interesting to see who is taken with 19 in that regard.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Kellogscrunchynut on October 22, 2015, 03:46:49 PM
Quote from: Nige on October 22, 2015, 03:36:56 PM
Quote from: Rusty00 on October 22, 2015, 03:22:34 PM
Quote from: Nige on October 22, 2015, 03:13:32 PM
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2015-10-22/indicative-draft-order-your-clubs-provisional-picks-as-trade-period-unfolds

That's our order.
I love how Pick 19 originated in 2011
Haha yep, it was honestly one of the reasons I wanted Carlton to take it. Just so that it moved again. Should be interesting to see who is taken with 19 in that regard.
Hope its a pass.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: elephants on October 22, 2015, 04:09:32 PM
Quote from: Rusty00 on October 22, 2015, 02:44:01 PM
Quote from: TomK on October 22, 2015, 02:19:44 PM
WC 36 & 37 to Sydney for 23 is done
There you go Ele ;)

Haha cheers for listening boys
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: kilbluff1985 on October 22, 2015, 09:21:30 PM
so did Carlton get those GWS players they were chasing?
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Big Mac on October 22, 2015, 09:23:46 PM
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on October 22, 2015, 09:21:30 PM
so did Carlton get those GWS players they were chasing?

ended up with Plowman, Sumner, Lamb and Phillips

Missed out on Tomlinson though
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: shaker on October 22, 2015, 09:42:22 PM
So all up well done to the Cats and the Pies and a few other teams that got involved and for my Tiges well maybe they need some new blood in the trades dept. because they just can't get involved C- to them
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Barra13 on October 23, 2015, 11:57:22 AM
Quote from: PowerBug on October 22, 2015, 03:02:06 PM
flower glad that's over. Does no one like their draft picks??

Melbourne supporters do now.  ;)
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Mr.Craig on October 23, 2015, 12:08:53 PM
Two picks in the first round? Giddy up.

First 1st round pick since Isaac Smith in 2010.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Rusty00 on October 23, 2015, 12:30:02 PM
Quote from: Mr.Craig on October 23, 2015, 12:08:53 PM
Two picks in the first round? Giddy up.

First 1st round pick since Isaac Smith in 2010.
Thought it was a while.

Looking forward to seeing who we get.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: RaisyDaisy on October 23, 2015, 02:26:17 PM
Poor old Spindleshanks aka Microphone Head is being delisted

Wonder if a club would pick him up in the draft? Carlton should grab him to go with Jones lol
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Mat0369 on October 23, 2015, 02:53:52 PM
Can JB commentate VFL games so I can hear him yell 'SPINDLESHANKS!'?
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: RaisyDaisy on October 23, 2015, 02:58:27 PM
Quote from: Mat0369 on October 23, 2015, 02:53:52 PM
Can JB commentate VFL games so I can hear him yell 'SPINDLESHANKS!'?

Seriously, this was my first thought - the fact that I would no longer here the Triple M guys call his name.

Absolutely shattered, and am hoping he gets picked up just for this
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Nige on October 24, 2015, 12:43:48 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on October 23, 2015, 02:26:17 PM
Poor old Spindleshanks aka Microphone Head is being delisted

Wonder if a club would pick him up in the draft? Carlton should grab him to go with Jones lol
At least Grant knows how to play football and showed glimpses every 10 games, Jones has no clue.  :P
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Donnie Brasco on October 25, 2015, 03:02:17 PM
http://titusoreily.com/carlton-confident-of-being-player-free-by-2018/
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Money Shot on October 25, 2015, 04:51:31 PM
Is there anyone in the pre season draft that Carlton should look at it?
Andrew Moore, Sam Grimley ... Dare I say Jared Grant :o
Surely there's more talent than that!
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Kellogscrunchynut on October 25, 2015, 05:39:45 PM
The Pre-season draft has become less relevant since free agency came into the game. Although with Andrew Moore if he's linked to multiple clubs as a delisted free agent are Carlton more deserving of him as the bottom club?
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Ringo on October 25, 2015, 05:40:53 PM
Rumours persist that Josh Glenn (Gold Coast Suns) is homesick and wants to return to SA and prepared to play in SANFL.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: elephants on October 26, 2015, 12:08:22 PM
Quote from: Ringo on October 25, 2015, 05:40:53 PM
Rumours persist that Josh Glenn (Gold Coast Suns) is homesick and wants to return to SA and prepared to play in SANFL.

I rate this kid, would be a good depth player for the Crows or Power with the long-term vision of starting.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Nige on October 26, 2015, 12:16:20 PM
Quote from: elephants on October 26, 2015, 12:08:22 PM
Quote from: Ringo on October 25, 2015, 05:40:53 PM
Rumours persist that Josh Glenn (Gold Coast Suns) is homesick and wants to return to SA and prepared to play in SANFL.

I rate this kid, would be a good depth player for the Crows or Power with the long-term vision of starting.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Football Factory on October 26, 2015, 12:21:34 PM
Quote from: Money Shot on October 25, 2015, 04:51:31 PM
Is there anyone in the pre season draft that Carlton should look at it?
Andrew Moore, Sam Grimley ... Dare I say Jared Grant :o
Surely there's more talent than that!

Maybe they could draft another Yarran   ;D

SHANE YARRAN
Subiaco, 26, 186cm, 76kg
Was the WAFL's leading goalkicker and finished with 54 majors after bagging five in the Grand Final triumph over West Perth. The mercurial forward hurt his knee in the season-decider, but tested at the state combine and will loom on clubs' radars after two outstanding seasons with the Lions during their back-to-back premiership reign.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Ricochet on October 26, 2015, 12:29:50 PM
Yarran had a good year, but not sure he'll crack it at AFL level
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Football Factory on October 26, 2015, 01:02:53 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on October 26, 2015, 12:29:50 PM
Yarran had a good year, but not sure he'll crack it at AFL level

Yeah don't really know much about him ..WAFL 

Carlton might take a risk on a mature aged player ?

I was going to ask if you think he's better than Liam Jones, but that would be a silly question  ;D
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Ricochet on October 26, 2015, 01:06:52 PM
Quote from: FOOTBALL FACTORY on October 26, 2015, 01:02:53 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on October 26, 2015, 12:29:50 PM
Yarran had a good year, but not sure he'll crack it at AFL level

Yeah don't really know much about him ..WAFL 

Carlton might take a risk on a mature aged player ?

I was going to ask if you think he's better than Liam Jones, but that would be a silly question  ;D
hahahahahaha :P

From the WAFL I reckon they should be looking at Adams. Huge unit (as in a barrel, not massively tall) who can play on medium fwds, and does go fwd himself. Very strong mark and can kick it a mile
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Football Factory on October 26, 2015, 02:51:04 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on October 26, 2015, 01:06:52 PM
Quote from: FOOTBALL FACTORY on October 26, 2015, 01:02:53 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on October 26, 2015, 12:29:50 PM
Yarran had a good year, but not sure he'll crack it at AFL level

Yeah don't really know much about him ..WAFL 

Carlton might take a risk on a mature aged player ?

I was going to ask if you think he's better than Liam Jones, but that would be a silly question  ;D
hahahahahaha :P

From the WAFL I reckon they should be looking at Adams. Huge unit (as in a barrel, not massively tall) who can play on medium fwds, and does go fwd himself. Very strong mark and can kick it a mile

He's in this article as well (Marcus Adams).. there were a few forwards I could have picked but Yarran seemed the most amusing  :)

http://www.afl.com.au/news/2015-10-25/state-league-gems-who-are-the-rough-diamonds-in-the-afl-mix
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Ringo on October 26, 2015, 07:08:36 PM
http://www.lions.com.au/news/2015-10-26/list-changes

Brisbane have done it again by de-listing their NEAFL  B & F with Zac O'Brien being de-listed.  Should be a handy pick up for a club though even though mature aged. Do not agree by the way.

Jackson Paine also de-listed and will be re-signed on rookie list.

Rohan Bewick re-signed for 12 months.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Ricochet on October 26, 2015, 07:42:51 PM
Sam McClure ‏says

QuoteMatthew Lobbe was going to WB for pick 11 on a 4 yr deal. But Dogs couldn't do a medical because he was in Vietnam. Deal then fell through.

Also Gerard Healy says JGrant is on GC's radar, while clubs should be looking at Matt Watson
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: powersuperkents on October 26, 2015, 08:01:04 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on October 26, 2015, 07:42:51 PM
Sam McClure ‏says

QuoteMatthew Lobbe was going to WB for pick 11 on a 4 yr deal. But Dogs couldn't do a medical because he was in Vietnam. Deal then fell through.

Also Gerard Healy says JGrant is on GC's radar, while clubs should be looking at Matt Watson
Would not mind if Port picked him up
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Pkbaldy on October 26, 2015, 10:11:17 PM
Quote from: powersuperkents on October 26, 2015, 08:01:04 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on October 26, 2015, 07:42:51 PM
Sam McClure ‏says

QuoteMatthew Lobbe was going to WB for pick 11 on a 4 yr deal. But Dogs couldn't do a medical because he was in Vietnam. Deal then fell through.

Also Gerard Healy says JGrant is on GC's radar, while clubs should be looking at Matt Watson
Would not mind if Port picked him up

Potato Head will be good training match up for Charlie Dixon.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: powersuperkents on October 26, 2015, 10:48:43 PM
Quote from: Pkbaldy on October 26, 2015, 10:11:17 PM
Quote from: powersuperkents on October 26, 2015, 08:01:04 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on October 26, 2015, 07:42:51 PM
Sam McClure ‏says

QuoteMatthew Lobbe was going to WB for pick 11 on a 4 yr deal. But Dogs couldn't do a medical because he was in Vietnam. Deal then fell through.

Also Gerard Healy says JGrant is on GC's radar, while clubs should be looking at Matt Watson
Would not mind if Port picked him up

Potato Head will be good training match up for Charlie Dixon.
I honestly don't think he's that bad - would probably be better in defence than up forward.

The only problem is that he doesn't have any attributes that make him stand out (not sure why Carlton used a first rounder on him - but he can say that about most of their first round picks over the last decade  :P).

I don't think he was a bust, I just think injuries and a lack of focus prevented him from having an impact. Would like to see a club give him a season to develop him into a key defender. However, I don't think he would ever he able to play in the forward line at an AFL standard. He would obviously need to work on his contested marking (and spoiling)
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Nige on October 27, 2015, 08:07:00 PM
Bombers have delisted Elliott Kavanagh and Alex Browne.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Ricochet on October 28, 2015, 11:48:49 AM
http://www.afc.com.au/news/2015-10-28/wright-delisted

Matty Wright delisted
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Holz on October 28, 2015, 11:50:31 AM
Quote from: Ricochet on October 28, 2015, 11:48:49 AM
http://www.afc.com.au/news/2015-10-28/wright-delisted

Matty Wright delisted

dam the guy has soo much fantasy potential he just kept getting almost there.Thought the removal of the vest would help him explode.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Purple 77 on October 28, 2015, 12:12:52 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on October 28, 2015, 11:48:49 AM
http://www.afc.com.au/news/2015-10-28/wright-delisted

Matty Wright delisted

Dayum! I'd take him at Melbourne...
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Football Factory on October 28, 2015, 12:18:04 PM
Gotta be something to do with his attitude/output ? always seemed to have the skills but never quite cemented himself in the team.

Melbourne or Carlton would be a good move, if you can get him motivated .. worth the risk imo
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Ricochet on October 28, 2015, 12:25:47 PM
Quote from: FOOTBALL FACTORY on October 28, 2015, 12:18:04 PM
Gotta be something to do with his attitude/output ? always seemed to have the skills but never quite cemented himself in the team.

Melbourne would be a good move, if you can get him motivated .. worth the risk imo
Actually it was due to this

http://www.adelaidenow.com.au/sport/afl/crows-compelled-to-cut-one-more-port-adelaide-could-juggle-rookie-list/story-fnia3xzy-1227582683707?sv=53f30769c2d1503e65bf6b50183e0078

QuoteAdelaide is compelled to make one cut after removing six players from its 2015 list and adding four in a super-active trade period.

This would then open up three picks for Adelaide in the AFL national draft on Tuesday, November 24. The Crows, for the first time in their 25-year story, have two first-round draft picks (Nos. 9 and 13). Their third pick will be forfeited to upgrade rookie defender Jake Kelly.

As Wright is the only Crow without a contract for next season, his delisting seems inevitable. The forward-midfielder played 16 AFL games this year, but only four under interim coach Scott Camporeale’s watch from July.

Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Football Factory on October 28, 2015, 12:33:32 PM
If he was a good player with a good attitude they would have made room for him at some stage yeah ?

So as I was saying.. I think ? it was something to do with his attitude rather than his skills that couldn't get him another contract with the Crows.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Ricochet on October 28, 2015, 12:44:42 PM
Quote from: FOOTBALL FACTORY on October 28, 2015, 12:33:32 PM
If he was a good player with a good attitude they would have made room for him at some stage yeah ?

So as I was saying.. I think ? it was something to do with his attitude rather than his skills that couldn't get him another contract with the Crows.
Yeh possibly. May have also been a $$$ thing or salary cap. Or that kids like Crouch, CEY, Knight and co have just overtaken him

The statement from Adelaide said

http://www.afc.com.au/news/2015-10-28/wright-delisted
Quote“Matthew was very professional during his time at West Lakes and he always put the team’s needs first,” Noble said.

“After starting his career as a rookie he worked hard to get the most out of himself.

“Matthew was a popular member of our playing group and the Club wishes him all the best for the future.”

So not sure if it was attitude.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Football Factory on October 28, 2015, 12:49:38 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on October 28, 2015, 12:44:42 PM
Quote from: FOOTBALL FACTORY on October 28, 2015, 12:33:32 PM
If he was a good player with a good attitude they would have made room for him at some stage yeah ?

So as I was saying.. I think ? it was something to do with his attitude rather than his skills that couldn't get him another contract with the Crows.
Yeh possibly. May have also been a $$$ thing or salary cap. Or that kids like Crouch, CEY, Knight and co have just overtaken him

The statement from Adelaide said

http://www.afc.com.au/news/2015-10-28/wright-delisted
Quote“Matthew was very professional during his time at West Lakes and he always put the team’s needs first,” Noble said.

“After starting his career as a rookie he worked hard to get the most out of himself.

“Matthew was a popular member of our playing group and the Club wishes him all the best for the future.”

So not sure if it was attitude.

Okay  .. well if they say he worked hard to get the most out of himself, must be he doesn't have whats needed to play AFL.

Like you say it seems the young blokes have over taken him.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Grazz on October 28, 2015, 12:51:15 PM
Think it's more the case Matty stagnated and didn't continue to improve and now some of the youngens are going passed him or offer more in versatility etc.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Money Shot on October 28, 2015, 01:00:07 PM
Matty Wright would be good for some depth at Carlton! He's probably better than Kerridge anyways!
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Holz on October 28, 2015, 01:03:08 PM
Quote from: Money Shot on October 28, 2015, 01:00:07 PM
Matty Wright would be good for some depth at Carlton! He's probably better than Kerridge anyways!

Wright could push for Carltons best and fairest.

Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: TomK on October 28, 2015, 01:05:58 PM
Quote from: Grazz on October 28, 2015, 12:51:15 PM
Think it's more the case Matty stagnated and didn't continue to improve and now some of the youngens are going passed him or offer more in versatility etc.
This.

I remember his game back in 2012 at home against Freo where he had something like 37 disposals and a couple of goals, I think he played predominately midfield that game and showed he had what it takes. When played as a midfielder he can be pretty good but he was pushed put of rotations and couldn't get back in and was stuck on forward flank and was eventually pushed out by the likes of Knight and Atkins.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: TomK on October 28, 2015, 01:06:50 PM
Quote from: Money Shot on October 28, 2015, 01:00:07 PM
Matty Wright would be good for some depth at Carlton! He's probably better than Kerridge anyways!
Haha he really isn't.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Money Shot on October 28, 2015, 01:09:15 PM
Quote from: TomK on October 28, 2015, 01:06:50 PM
Quote from: Money Shot on October 28, 2015, 01:00:07 PM
Matty Wright would be good for some depth at Carlton! He's probably better than Kerridge anyways!
Haha he really isn't.
I'll take your word for it! I don't know much about either of them!
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Toga on October 28, 2015, 01:12:27 PM
Quote from: Holz on October 28, 2015, 01:03:08 PM
Quote from: Money Shot on October 28, 2015, 01:00:07 PM
Matty Wright would be good for some depth at Carlton! He's probably better than Kerridge anyways!

Wright could push for Carltons best and fairest.

Is that a reflection on Wright being good or how bad Carlton is? :P
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Football Factory on October 28, 2015, 01:24:24 PM
Quote from: Toga on October 28, 2015, 01:12:27 PM
Quote from: Holz on October 28, 2015, 01:03:08 PM
Quote from: Money Shot on October 28, 2015, 01:00:07 PM
Matty Wright would be good for some depth at Carlton! He's probably better than Kerridge anyways!

Wright could push for Carltons best and fairest.

Is that a reflection on Wright being good or how bad Carlton is? :P

;D
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Grazz on October 28, 2015, 01:35:00 PM
Quote from: TomK on October 28, 2015, 01:06:50 PM
Quote from: Money Shot on October 28, 2015, 01:00:07 PM
Matty Wright would be good for some depth at Carlton! He's probably better than Kerridge anyways!
Haha he really isn't.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Jay on October 28, 2015, 01:49:50 PM
Wright is the definition of a fringe player. Doesn't offer much upside but you'd presume he'll get picked up by someone.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Nige on October 28, 2015, 01:54:53 PM
Alex Keath has been picked up by the Crows at a category B rookie.

He was one of Gold Coast's initial 17 year old priority picks and also spent time playing cricket for Australia's U19s and Victoria.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: JBs-Hawks on October 28, 2015, 03:17:54 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on October 28, 2015, 12:44:42 PM
Quote from: FOOTBALL FACTORY on October 28, 2015, 12:33:32 PM
If he was a good player with a good attitude they would have made room for him at some stage yeah ?

So as I was saying.. I think ? it was something to do with his attitude rather than his skills that couldn't get him another contract with the Crows.
Yeh possibly. May have also been a $$$ thing or salary cap. Or that kids like Crouch, CEY, Knight and co have just overtaken him

The statement from Adelaide said

http://www.afc.com.au/news/2015-10-28/wright-delisted
Quote“Matthew was very professional during his time at West Lakes and he always put the team’s needs first,” Noble said.

“After starting his career as a rookie he worked hard to get the most out of himself.

“Matthew was a popular member of our playing group and the Club wishes him all the best for the future.”

So not sure if it was attitude.

I went to school with him, it's definitely not to do with attitude!
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Holz on October 28, 2015, 04:57:01 PM
Quote from: Toga on October 28, 2015, 01:12:27 PM
Quote from: Holz on October 28, 2015, 01:03:08 PM
Quote from: Money Shot on October 28, 2015, 01:00:07 PM
Matty Wright would be good for some depth at Carlton! He's probably better than Kerridge anyways!

Wright could push for Carltons best and fairest.

Is that a reflection on Wright being good or how bad Carlton is? :P

A little from column A, a little from Column B
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Ricochet on October 28, 2015, 06:04:53 PM
From Richmond
Matt Thomas has retired
Gordon and Dea have been delisted


From Carlton
Warnock, Fields, Holman and Walsh(seriously?) have been delisted
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Toga on October 28, 2015, 06:16:56 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on October 28, 2015, 06:04:53 PM
Warnock

lol
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Ricochet on October 28, 2015, 06:24:35 PM
Jon Ralph ‏@RalphyHeraldSun
Tough break for Blues beanpole Robbie Warnock. Was only offered modest deal mid-year, knocked it back, got injured, now delisted today

Quote from: Toga on October 28, 2015, 06:16:56 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on October 28, 2015, 06:04:53 PM
Warnock

lol
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Nige on October 28, 2015, 08:20:41 PM
Kane Mitchell has been delisted, but Port plans to pick him up again though and put him on the rookie list.

Cats will elevate Michael Luxford to the senior list.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: powersuperkents on October 28, 2015, 08:35:19 PM
Quote from: Nige on October 28, 2015, 08:20:41 PM
Kane Mitchell has been delisted, but Port plans to pick him up again though and put him on the rookie list.

Cats will elevate Michael Luxford to the senior list.
I don't see him slipping to pick 10 in the Rookie draft

Carlton to snatch him up for certain (won't get past the Lions at pick #2)  :P

Definitely the best club mascot
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Jay on October 28, 2015, 09:02:15 PM
Quote from: powersuperkents on October 28, 2015, 08:35:19 PM
Quote from: Nige on October 28, 2015, 08:20:41 PM
Kane Mitchell has been delisted, but Port plans to pick him up again though and put him on the rookie list.

Cats will elevate Michael Luxford to the senior list.
I don't see him slipping to pick 10 in the Rookie draft

Carlton to snatch him up for certain (won't get past the Lions at pick #2)  :P

Definitely the best club mascot
I wouldn't even take him at pick 10..
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: powersuperkents on October 28, 2015, 09:05:46 PM
Quote from: Jayman on October 28, 2015, 09:02:15 PM
Quote from: powersuperkents on October 28, 2015, 08:35:19 PM
Quote from: Nige on October 28, 2015, 08:20:41 PM
Kane Mitchell has been delisted, but Port plans to pick him up again though and put him on the rookie list.

Cats will elevate Michael Luxford to the senior list.
I don't see him slipping to pick 10 in the Rookie draft

Carlton to snatch him up for certain (won't get past the Lions at pick #2)  :P

Definitely the best club mascot
I wouldn't even take him at pick 10..
He's still better than Matty Wright  :P
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Jay on October 28, 2015, 09:10:44 PM
Quote from: powersuperkents on October 28, 2015, 09:05:46 PM
Quote from: Jayman on October 28, 2015, 09:02:15 PM
Quote from: powersuperkents on October 28, 2015, 08:35:19 PM
Quote from: Nige on October 28, 2015, 08:20:41 PM
Kane Mitchell has been delisted, but Port plans to pick him up again though and put him on the rookie list.

Cats will elevate Michael Luxford to the senior list.
I don't see him slipping to pick 10 in the Rookie draft

Carlton to snatch him up for certain (won't get past the Lions at pick #2)  :P

Definitely the best club mascot
I wouldn't even take him at pick 10..
He's still better than Matty Wright  :P
I strongly disagree with that.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Big Mac on October 28, 2015, 09:17:10 PM
Quote from: powersuperkents on October 28, 2015, 09:05:46 PM
Quote from: Jayman on October 28, 2015, 09:02:15 PM
Quote from: powersuperkents on October 28, 2015, 08:35:19 PM
Quote from: Nige on October 28, 2015, 08:20:41 PM
Kane Mitchell has been delisted, but Port plans to pick him up again though and put him on the rookie list.

Cats will elevate Michael Luxford to the senior list.
I don't see him slipping to pick 10 in the Rookie draft

Carlton to snatch him up for certain (won't get past the Lions at pick #2)  :P

Definitely the best club mascot
I wouldn't even take him at pick 10..
He's still better than Matty Wright  :P

Better at taking jabs at people passing by during an interview maybe  :P
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: powersuperkents on October 28, 2015, 09:29:00 PM
Quote from: Big  Mac on October 28, 2015, 09:17:10 PM
Quote from: powersuperkents on October 28, 2015, 09:05:46 PM
Quote from: Jayman on October 28, 2015, 09:02:15 PM
Quote from: powersuperkents on October 28, 2015, 08:35:19 PM
Quote from: Nige on October 28, 2015, 08:20:41 PM
Kane Mitchell has been delisted, but Port plans to pick him up again though and put him on the rookie list.

Cats will elevate Michael Luxford to the senior list.
I don't see him slipping to pick 10 in the Rookie draft

Carlton to snatch him up for certain (won't get past the Lions at pick #2)  :P

Definitely the best club mascot
I wouldn't even take him at pick 10..
He's still better than Matty Wright  :P

Better at taking jabs at people passing by during an interview maybe  :P
He's a class A comedian haha

He's lucky he's charismatic (apparently he's a laugh) because the club loves him more for his personality than his ability as a footballer. He did win the Sandover medal though so he cannot be a bad player, the question is rather whether he is of AFL standard
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Bill Manspeaker on October 28, 2015, 11:27:41 PM
Quote from: Southstorm on October 22, 2015, 02:50:39 PM
Quote from: Bill Manspeaker on October 22, 2015, 11:00:39 AM
dodgy from Essendon too.  they knew of this before demanding pick 5, then a couple hours later - it's released. dodgy. as. flower.
How do you know that we knew this? What's your source? If it somehow made it's way to our club then how did no other club in the competition find out about it?

Although McConville had been in regular contact with Saints list manager Ameet Bains, he did not reveal to Bains before the Carlisle contract was signed that he had been contacted by Channel Nine regarding the Carlisle video. (http://m.theage.com.au/afl/afl-news/afl-asks-jake-carlisle-and-his-manager-to-please-explain-20151028-gkl3wh.html)

Quote from: Bill Manspeaker on October 22, 2015, 11:00:39 AMdodgy. as. flower.

Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: H1bb3i2d on October 29, 2015, 12:17:05 AM
Quote from: Bill Manspeaker on October 28, 2015, 11:27:41 PM
Quote from: Southstorm on October 22, 2015, 02:50:39 PM
Quote from: Bill Manspeaker on October 22, 2015, 11:00:39 AM
dodgy from Essendon too.  they knew of this before demanding pick 5, then a couple hours later - it's released. dodgy. as. flower.
How do you know that we knew this? What's your source? If it somehow made it's way to our club then how did no other club in the competition find out about it?

Although McConville had been in regular contact with Saints list manager Ameet Bains, he did not reveal to Bains before the Carlisle contract was signed that he had been contacted by Channel Nine regarding the Carlisle video. (http://m.theage.com.au/afl/afl-news/afl-asks-jake-carlisle-and-his-manager-to-please-explain-20151028-gkl3wh.html)

Quote from: Bill Manspeaker on October 22, 2015, 11:00:39 AMdodgy. as. flower.

McConville.. his manager... as in, not EFC?
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Mat0369 on October 29, 2015, 12:24:44 AM
Quote from: powersuperkents on October 26, 2015, 10:48:43 PM
I honestly don't think he's that bad - would probably be better in defence than up forward.

The only problem is that he doesn't have any attributes that make him stand out (not sure why Carlton used a first rounder on him - but he can say that about most of their first round picks over the last decade  :P).

I don't think he was a bust, I just think injuries and a lack of focus prevented him from having an impact. Would like to see a club give him a season to develop him into a key defender. However, I don't think he would ever he able to play in the forward line at an AFL standard. He would obviously need to work on his contested marking (and spoiling)

He's that bad. So to answer this bit by bit.

We played him up forward because he couldn't play as a defender (position he was drafted as). He wasn't quick enough and didn't have the wingspan. He was taller then his wingspan due to his abnormally large head

The attribute that makes him stand out is his kicking. He has a penetrating left foot. The reason he was a first round pick is because it was a compromised draft. He was pick 18 and that doesn't include the pre-list players.


There is also this article

http://www.afl.com.au/news/2015-10-26/i-didnt-work-had-enough-at-carlton-admits-delisted-big-man

Reading that, he didn't work hard enough and now that Carlton have said, yeah, nah, he wants to do the things he should have been doing at the start of his career.

Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Bill Manspeaker on October 29, 2015, 01:18:17 AM
Quote from: H1bb3i2d on October 29, 2015, 12:17:05 AM
Quote from: Bill Manspeaker on October 28, 2015, 11:27:41 PM
Quote from: Southstorm on October 22, 2015, 02:50:39 PM
Quote from: Bill Manspeaker on October 22, 2015, 11:00:39 AM
dodgy from Essendon too.  they knew of this before demanding pick 5, then a couple hours later - it's released. dodgy. as. flower.
How do you know that we knew this? What's your source? If it somehow made it's way to our club then how did no other club in the competition find out about it?

Although McConville had been in regular contact with Saints list manager Ameet Bains, he did not reveal to Bains before the Carlisle contract was signed that he had been contacted by Channel Nine regarding the Carlisle video. (http://m.theage.com.au/afl/afl-news/afl-asks-jake-carlisle-and-his-manager-to-please-explain-20151028-gkl3wh.html)

Quote from: Bill Manspeaker on October 22, 2015, 11:00:39 AMdodgy. as. flower.

McConville.. his manager... as in, not EFC?
ehh, still reckon EFC would've known. might be a way prove it somehow, if Essendon haven't destroyed the evidence
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: kilbluff1985 on October 29, 2015, 01:31:45 AM
Quote from: TomK on October 28, 2015, 01:05:58 PM
Quote from: Grazz on October 28, 2015, 12:51:15 PM
Think it's more the case Matty stagnated and didn't continue to improve and now some of the youngens are going passed him or offer more in versatility etc.
This.

I remember his game back in 2012 at home against Freo where he had something like 37 disposals and a couple of goals, I think he played predominately midfield that game and showed he had what it takes. When played as a midfielder he can be pretty good but he was pushed put of rotations and couldn't get back in and was stuck on forward flank and was eventually pushed out by the likes of Knight and Atkins.

Reimers kicked 8 once 1 game doesn't mean much
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Money Shot on October 29, 2015, 08:00:34 AM
Who's the most likely to be going to Carlton in the pre season draft!?
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: H1bb3i2d on October 29, 2015, 11:59:02 AM
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on October 29, 2015, 01:31:45 AM
Quote from: TomK on October 28, 2015, 01:05:58 PM
Quote from: Grazz on October 28, 2015, 12:51:15 PM
Think it's more the case Matty stagnated and didn't continue to improve and now some of the youngens are going passed him or offer more in versatility etc.
This.

I remember his game back in 2012 at home against Freo where he had something like 37 disposals and a couple of goals, I think he played predominately midfield that game and showed he had what it takes. When played as a midfielder he can be pretty good but he was pushed put of rotations and couldn't get back in and was stuck on forward flank and was eventually pushed out by the likes of Knight and Atkins.

Reimers kicked 8 once 1 game doesn't mean much

To be fair, they were only on Josh Toy...
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Ricochet on October 29, 2015, 01:10:38 PM
Kieren Harper and Majak Daw delisted.
Daw will be re-rookied
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Bill Manspeaker on October 29, 2015, 01:22:35 PM
I'd be happy if Saints picked up Harper
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Holz on October 29, 2015, 01:24:57 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on October 29, 2015, 01:10:38 PM
Kieren Harper and Majak Daw delisted.
Daw will be re-rookied

was going to say. If goldy goes down injured we are in major trouble
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Ricochet on October 29, 2015, 01:29:20 PM
Quote from: Holz on October 29, 2015, 01:24:57 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on October 29, 2015, 01:10:38 PM
Kieren Harper and Majak Daw delisted.
Daw will be re-rookied

was going to say. If goldy goes down injured we are in major trouble
What if Daw is still on the rookie list and Goldy needs to miss 3-4 weeks? Brown?
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Nige on October 29, 2015, 01:31:37 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on October 29, 2015, 01:29:20 PM
Quote from: Holz on October 29, 2015, 01:24:57 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on October 29, 2015, 01:10:38 PM
Kieren Harper and Majak Daw delisted.
Daw will be re-rookied

was going to say. If goldy goes down injured we are in major trouble
What if Daw is still on the rookie list and Goldy needs to miss 3-4 weeks? Brown?
Yep. They're either really confident in Goldy durability or they're fine with Brown being No.1 ruck in Goldy's absence.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Holz on October 29, 2015, 01:33:37 PM
Quote from: Nige on October 29, 2015, 01:31:37 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on October 29, 2015, 01:29:20 PM
Quote from: Holz on October 29, 2015, 01:24:57 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on October 29, 2015, 01:10:38 PM
Kieren Harper and Majak Daw delisted.
Daw will be re-rookied

was going to say. If goldy goes down injured we are in major trouble
What if Daw is still on the rookie list and Goldy needs to miss 3-4 weeks? Brown?
Yep. They're either really confident in Goldy durability or they're fine with Brown being No.1 ruck in Goldy's absence.

I think we need Daw. Brown im not confident with him rucking as the sole ruck. I think its a mistake to have no currie and daw on the rookie list.

Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Ricochet on October 29, 2015, 01:35:47 PM
Quote from: Holz on October 29, 2015, 01:33:37 PM
Quote from: Nige on October 29, 2015, 01:31:37 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on October 29, 2015, 01:29:20 PM
Quote from: Holz on October 29, 2015, 01:24:57 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on October 29, 2015, 01:10:38 PM
Kieren Harper and Majak Daw delisted.
Daw will be re-rookied

was going to say. If goldy goes down injured we are in major trouble
What if Daw is still on the rookie list and Goldy needs to miss 3-4 weeks? Brown?
Yep. They're either really confident in Goldy durability or they're fine with Brown being No.1 ruck in Goldy's absence.

I think we need Daw. Brown im not confident with him rucking as the sole ruck. I think its a mistake to have no currie and daw on the rookie list.
Yeh wouldn't want to be over the bye time....
Hawthorn
Adelaide (with Jacobs)
Freo (with Sandi)
Port (with Ryder/Lobbe)

Big games, with big ruckmen

In saying that you can pretty much guarantee there will be a spot for upgrades at that time
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Nige on October 29, 2015, 01:57:00 PM
Potentially could have something to do with the fact his court case is in November?
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Holz on October 29, 2015, 03:13:00 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on October 29, 2015, 01:35:47 PM
Quote from: Holz on October 29, 2015, 01:33:37 PM
Quote from: Nige on October 29, 2015, 01:31:37 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on October 29, 2015, 01:29:20 PM
Quote from: Holz on October 29, 2015, 01:24:57 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on October 29, 2015, 01:10:38 PM
Kieren Harper and Majak Daw delisted.
Daw will be re-rookied

was going to say. If goldy goes down injured we are in major trouble
What if Daw is still on the rookie list and Goldy needs to miss 3-4 weeks? Brown?
Yep. They're either really confident in Goldy durability or they're fine with Brown being No.1 ruck in Goldy's absence.

I think we need Daw. Brown im not confident with him rucking as the sole ruck. I think its a mistake to have no currie and daw on the rookie list.
Yeh wouldn't want to be over the bye time....
Hawthorn
Adelaide (with Jacobs)
Freo (with Sandi)
Port (with Ryder/Lobbe)

Big games, with big ruckmen

In saying that you can pretty much guarantee there will be a spot for upgrades at that time

good thing he is goldy and the only time he doesn't play is when we rest him. The guy isnt human.

Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Ricochet on October 29, 2015, 04:26:52 PM
http://www.goldcoastfc.com.au/news/2015-10-29/three-delisted-ahead-of-list-deadline

QuoteIn addition to the list changes advised in September, senior listed players Dan Gorringe & Danny Stanley will be delisted as will rookie Josh Glenn who advised the club recently that he didn’t wish to pursue an AFL career.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: SydneyRox on October 29, 2015, 04:46:59 PM
So everyone seemed to be chasing rucks during the trade period and Daw and Gorringe should find new homes or get rookie listed.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: powersuperkents on October 29, 2015, 09:05:59 PM
Quote from: SydneyRox on October 29, 2015, 04:46:59 PM
So everyone seemed to be chasing rucks during the trade period and Daw and Gorringe should find new homes or get rookie listed.
Could finally make his way to Port Adelaide... but I doubt we will want that glory hunting spud (he burnt that bridge last year when he denigrated the club for prioritising Ryder's trade request over his)

Crows may pick him up
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Purple 77 on October 29, 2015, 09:25:56 PM
I'm interested to see if Melbourne think Gawn & Spencer is all they need. Max King is still a long way off. They are literally the only 3 pure ruckman on the list.

I hope they don't, but I do wonder if we would select Warnock, Gorringe or Daw. Again, I really hope we don't.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Nige on October 30, 2015, 11:09:24 AM
Saunders, Ray and Saad delisted by the Saints. Saunders will be rookied, Ray maybe.

Marsh, Perris and McLaren delisted by the Swans, Marsh will be rookied.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Ricochet on October 30, 2015, 11:35:55 AM
GWS have also delisted Sam Schulz and Tim Golds
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Nige on October 30, 2015, 11:50:15 AM
Bombers have delisted Ariel Steinberg, Hawks have delisted Jonathan Simpkin.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: LF on October 30, 2015, 02:57:37 PM
Eagles have re-signed McGinnity and Lucas and have delisted Tunbridge,Waterman and Colledge
Waterman and Colledge will get picked up as rookies if still available
Waterman is so stiff to be delisted,has been sick all year with glandular fever.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: SydneyRox on October 30, 2015, 06:34:21 PM
when the f@ck are we going to nominate dunkley?.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Purple 77 on October 30, 2015, 06:35:15 PM
Also curious to see if Melb nominate Jake Lovett under F/S
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: H1bb3i2d on October 30, 2015, 06:44:14 PM
Quote from: SydneyRox on October 30, 2015, 06:34:21 PM
when the f@ck are we going to nominate dunkley?.

I think Dunkley is yet to nominate the Swans, deciding if he wants to hedge his bets elsewhere for more senior opportunity
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: SydneyRox on October 30, 2015, 06:48:15 PM
Quote from: H1bb3i2d on October 30, 2015, 06:44:14 PM
Quote from: SydneyRox on October 30, 2015, 06:34:21 PM
when the f@ck are we going to nominate dunkley?.

I think Dunkley is yet to nominate the Swans, deciding if he wants to hedge his bets elsewhere for more senior opportunity

yeah, but i am 99% sure clubs have to also nominate their intent by today.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Nige on October 30, 2015, 06:58:16 PM
Quote from: SydneyRox on October 30, 2015, 06:48:15 PM
Quote from: H1bb3i2d on October 30, 2015, 06:44:14 PM
Quote from: SydneyRox on October 30, 2015, 06:34:21 PM
when the f@ck are we going to nominate dunkley?.

I think Dunkley is yet to nominate the Swans, deciding if he wants to hedge his bets elsewhere for more senior opportunity

yeah, but i am 99% sure clubs have to also nominate their intent by today.
Probably not gonna end up a Swan. He'll stay in Victoria and get picked up by a Vic club most likely.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Big Mac on October 30, 2015, 07:18:54 PM
Quote from: Purple 77 on October 30, 2015, 06:35:15 PM
Also curious to see if Melb nominate Jake Lovett under F/S

Very much doubt it

Small chance he is rookied
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Nige on November 02, 2015, 02:38:04 PM
Andrew Boston just retired citing he no longer has the passion to play at the top level.

http://www.goldcoastfc.com.au/news/2015-11-02/andrew-boston-retires
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Mat0369 on November 02, 2015, 03:04:54 PM
Quote"AFL football is a lifestyle, not a job. At the elite level you’ve got to live football 24/7.

“If you can’t live your entire life with the necessary commitment and discipline you won’t and can’t be elite. At the moment I simply don't have the passion required to play at the elite level, and don’t want to take a spot on the SUNS list that can be given to somebody else.

Well at least he is honest.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Holz on November 02, 2015, 03:44:37 PM
Quote from: Mat0369 on November 02, 2015, 03:04:54 PM
Quote"AFL football is a lifestyle, not a job. At the elite level you’ve got to live football 24/7.

“If you can’t live your entire life with the necessary commitment and discipline you won’t and can’t be elite. At the moment I simply don't have the passion required to play at the elite level, and don’t want to take a spot on the SUNS list that can be given to somebody else.

Well at least he is honest.

what a top guy.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: JBs-Hawks on November 02, 2015, 03:46:08 PM
What a soft cock
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Holz on November 02, 2015, 03:58:28 PM
Quote from: JBs-Hawks on November 02, 2015, 03:46:08 PM
What a soft cock

for what realising he doesnt have a passion for his job and deciding rather then to take a pay check and take a guys spot who wants to be there he gives that up.

Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: JBs-Hawks on November 02, 2015, 04:10:25 PM
For quitting the best job in the world because he doesnt want to put in the hard work
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Holz on November 02, 2015, 04:16:49 PM
Quote from: JBs-Hawks on November 02, 2015, 04:10:25 PM
For quitting the best job in the world because he doesnt want to put in the hard work

if its something you don't enjoy its not the best job in the world.

takes a big person to realise your dreams as a kid dont match up to the reality of now.

sometimes it takes more strength to walk away.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: elephants on November 02, 2015, 04:20:52 PM
Yeah I agree with Holz, the kid could have just sat on GC's list for another couple of years just going through the motions laughing all the way to the bank with his 150k or whatever he'd be on.

Good on him for doing something with his life.

Quote from: Holz on November 02, 2015, 04:16:49 PM
Quote from: JBs-Hawks on November 02, 2015, 04:10:25 PM
For quitting the best job in the world because he doesnt want to put in the hard work

if its something you don't enjoy its not the best job in the world.

Couldn't agree more with that.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Mat0369 on November 02, 2015, 04:21:12 PM
Quote from: JBs-Hawks on November 02, 2015, 04:10:25 PM
For quitting the best job in the world because he doesnt want to put in the hard work

Some guys just don't have the passion for the game 24/7. It doesn't mean they don't want to work hard, it just means they don't love footy to the point they want to have to live it and breathe it 24 hours a day for the entire year. It's where the external interests come into play as well.

When you look at it, some of the guys that were stars in the last 10-20 years wouldn't survive in the game today with the way it is structured and the professionalism and commitment required to play at the top level.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: elephants on November 02, 2015, 04:22:40 PM
Besides, what's harder?

Playing footy or slugging it 9-5 every day. I know what I'd deem as easier.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Mat0369 on November 02, 2015, 04:31:15 PM
Better perks playing footy though  :P
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: PowerBug on November 02, 2015, 04:38:35 PM
Quote from: JBs-Hawks on November 02, 2015, 04:10:25 PM
For quitting the best job in the world because he doesnt want to put in the hard work
We could've all been professional athletes if we put in the hard work required.



Andrew Boston does not want to work as an AFL player, he can find work somewhere else. Good on him.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Ricochet on November 02, 2015, 04:42:04 PM
Quote from: PowerBug on November 02, 2015, 04:38:35 PM
Quote from: JBs-Hawks on November 02, 2015, 04:10:25 PM
For quitting the best job in the world because he doesnt want to put in the hard work
We could've all been professional athletes if we put in the hard work required.
No, we couldn't have. There's thousands that don't make it that have a higher level or work ethic or put more work in than those that do mate it, but simply don't have the talent.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: PowerBug on November 02, 2015, 04:42:46 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on November 02, 2015, 04:42:04 PM
Quote from: PowerBug on November 02, 2015, 04:38:35 PM
Quote from: JBs-Hawks on November 02, 2015, 04:10:25 PM
For quitting the best job in the world because he doesnt want to put in the hard work
We could've all been professional athletes if we put in the hard work required.
No, we couldn't have. There's thousands that don't make it that have a higher level or work ethic or put more work in than those that do mate it, but simply don't have the talent.
Some need to work harder than others to get there but it is possible. You probably need some coordination however to begin with.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Ricochet on November 02, 2015, 04:44:55 PM
Quote from: PowerBug on November 02, 2015, 04:42:46 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on November 02, 2015, 04:42:04 PM
Quote from: PowerBug on November 02, 2015, 04:38:35 PM
Quote from: JBs-Hawks on November 02, 2015, 04:10:25 PM
For quitting the best job in the world because he doesnt want to put in the hard work
We could've all been professional athletes if we put in the hard work required.
No, we couldn't have. There's thousands that don't make it that have a higher level or work ethic or put more work in than those that do mate it, but simply don't have the talent.
Some need to work harder than others to get there but it is possible.
Sorry man still disagree. Plenty work harder than those that get drafted, and still aren't good enough
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Jay on November 02, 2015, 05:00:13 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on November 02, 2015, 04:44:55 PM
Quote from: PowerBug on November 02, 2015, 04:42:46 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on November 02, 2015, 04:42:04 PM
Quote from: PowerBug on November 02, 2015, 04:38:35 PM
Quote from: JBs-Hawks on November 02, 2015, 04:10:25 PM
For quitting the best job in the world because he doesnt want to put in the hard work
We could've all been professional athletes if we put in the hard work required.
No, we couldn't have. There's thousands that don't make it that have a higher level or work ethic or put more work in than those that do mate it, but simply don't have the talent.
Some need to work harder than others to get there but it is possible.
Sorry man still disagree. Plenty work harder than those that get drafted, and still aren't good enough
This ^^
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Mat0369 on November 02, 2015, 05:07:29 PM
I guess it depends on what you classify as an athlete.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: PowerBug on November 02, 2015, 05:43:59 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on November 02, 2015, 04:44:55 PM
Quote from: PowerBug on November 02, 2015, 04:42:46 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on November 02, 2015, 04:42:04 PM
Quote from: PowerBug on November 02, 2015, 04:38:35 PM
Quote from: JBs-Hawks on November 02, 2015, 04:10:25 PM
For quitting the best job in the world because he doesnt want to put in the hard work
We could've all been professional athletes if we put in the hard work required.
No, we couldn't have. There's thousands that don't make it that have a higher level or work ethic or put more work in than those that do mate it, but simply don't have the talent.
Some need to work harder than others to get there but it is possible.
Sorry man still disagree. Plenty work harder than those that get drafted, and still aren't good enough
Fair enough :)


I still think JB is not right in calling him a soft cock for quitting.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Ringo on November 02, 2015, 06:17:57 PM
Quote from: PowerBug on November 02, 2015, 05:43:59 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on November 02, 2015, 04:44:55 PM
Quote from: PowerBug on November 02, 2015, 04:42:46 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on November 02, 2015, 04:42:04 PM
Quote from: PowerBug on November 02, 2015, 04:38:35 PM
Quote from: JBs-Hawks on November 02, 2015, 04:10:25 PM
For quitting the best job in the world because he doesnt want to put in the hard work
We could've all been professional athletes if we put in the hard work required.
No, we couldn't have. There's thousands that don't make it that have a higher level or work ethic or put more work in than those that do mate it, but simply don't have the talent.
Some need to work harder than others to get there but it is possible.
Sorry man still disagree. Plenty work harder than those that get drafted, and still aren't good enough
Fair enough :)


I still think JB is not right in calling him a soft cock for quitting.
Put yourself in Bostons shoes.  He was 19 when drafted by the Suns so had a bit more maturity. Had 2 serious injuries and has only played 16 games in 2 years.  So he has evaluated whether he has the capacity to be an elite AFL player given the number of games he played this year in an injury depleted Suns out fit.  He would be looking at the fact GAJ, Prestia and JOM will automatically come back in and where does that leave him. So credit to him for having the courage to walk away rather than occupy a spot on the list with injuries the only reason you may get a Senior game.

As has been said you can train and do all the work required but if you do not have the additional 5% of talent you may not make it.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Big Mac on November 02, 2015, 06:31:09 PM
Quote from: Ringo on November 02, 2015, 06:17:57 PM
Quote from: PowerBug on November 02, 2015, 05:43:59 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on November 02, 2015, 04:44:55 PM
Quote from: PowerBug on November 02, 2015, 04:42:46 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on November 02, 2015, 04:42:04 PM
Quote from: PowerBug on November 02, 2015, 04:38:35 PM
Quote from: JBs-Hawks on November 02, 2015, 04:10:25 PM
For quitting the best job in the world because he doesnt want to put in the hard work
We could've all been professional athletes if we put in the hard work required.
No, we couldn't have. There's thousands that don't make it that have a higher level or work ethic or put more work in than those that do mate it, but simply don't have the talent.
Some need to work harder than others to get there but it is possible.
Sorry man still disagree. Plenty work harder than those that get drafted, and still aren't good enough
Fair enough :)


I still think JB is not right in calling him a soft cock for quitting.
Put yourself in Bostons shoes.  He was 19 when drafted by the Suns so had a bit more maturity. Had 2 serious injuries and has only played 16 games in 2 years.  So he has evaluated whether he has the capacity to be an elite AFL player given the number of games he played this year in an injury depleted Suns out fit.  He would be looking at the fact GAJ, Prestia and JOM will automatically come back in and where does that leave him. So credit to him for having the courage to walk away rather than occupy a spot on the list with injuries the only reason you may get a Senior game.

As has been said you can train and do all the work required but if you do not have the additional 5% of talent you may not make it.

Well, yeh, unless you're tall as flower

ahem *robert warnock*  :P
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: powersuperkents on November 02, 2015, 06:31:52 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on November 02, 2015, 04:44:55 PM
Quote from: PowerBug on November 02, 2015, 04:42:46 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on November 02, 2015, 04:42:04 PM
Quote from: PowerBug on November 02, 2015, 04:38:35 PM
Quote from: JBs-Hawks on November 02, 2015, 04:10:25 PM
For quitting the best job in the world because he doesnt want to put in the hard work
We could've all been professional athletes if we put in the hard work required.
No, we couldn't have. There's thousands that don't make it that have a higher level or work ethic or put more work in than those that do mate it, but simply don't have the talent.
Some need to work harder than others to get there but it is possible.
Sorry man still disagree. Plenty work harder than those that get drafted, and still aren't good enough
+1

Have to agree with Rico, there's plenty who are eligible and just need to put in the hard work (but fail to do so), however a vast majority of people never have the potential to begin with. You first need the genetics, the mindset, the build, the athleticism, and the effort (it's a lot to tick off and there is probably more) and then there are those you are naturally talented and built for the game (who really have to flower up to be overlooked for hard-workers). If you walked down a busy street, it would be incredibly rare to find somebody who could potentially be an athlete of any sorts (it's the reason players like Josh Thomas & Lachlan Keefe resorted to taking banned substances, they obviously needed them or risked being delisted as they just could not keep up with the rest of the competition or their teammates (no matter how hard they tried) - this applies to 99% of athletes who take performance enhancing drugs - I honestly cannot see any other reason why a professional athlete would take them but it really demonstrates the demanding nature of professional sports. Of course there is that minority who are already in the top tier but do it to constantly improve, conversely one may argue that they are doing it to remain in the top tier) 

I would say 95% of people don't have what it takes to begin with (the competitiveness makes it even more difficult among those who do have the attributes)

@Holz, could not agree more, honorable thing to do by Boston. Hopefully he finds something he enjoys
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: powersuperkents on November 02, 2015, 06:32:49 PM
Quote from: Big  Mac on November 02, 2015, 06:31:09 PM
Quote from: Ringo on November 02, 2015, 06:17:57 PM
Quote from: PowerBug on November 02, 2015, 05:43:59 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on November 02, 2015, 04:44:55 PM
Quote from: PowerBug on November 02, 2015, 04:42:46 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on November 02, 2015, 04:42:04 PM
Quote from: PowerBug on November 02, 2015, 04:38:35 PM
Quote from: JBs-Hawks on November 02, 2015, 04:10:25 PM
For quitting the best job in the world because he doesnt want to put in the hard work
We could've all been professional athletes if we put in the hard work required.
No, we couldn't have. There's thousands that don't make it that have a higher level or work ethic or put more work in than those that do mate it, but simply don't have the talent.
Some need to work harder than others to get there but it is possible.
Sorry man still disagree. Plenty work harder than those that get drafted, and still aren't good enough
Fair enough :)


I still think JB is not right in calling him a soft cock for quitting.
Put yourself in Bostons shoes.  He was 19 when drafted by the Suns so had a bit more maturity. Had 2 serious injuries and has only played 16 games in 2 years.  So he has evaluated whether he has the capacity to be an elite AFL player given the number of games he played this year in an injury depleted Suns out fit.  He would be looking at the fact GAJ, Prestia and JOM will automatically come back in and where does that leave him. So credit to him for having the courage to walk away rather than occupy a spot on the list with injuries the only reason you may get a Senior game.

As has been said you can train and do all the work required but if you do not have the additional 5% of talent you may not make it.

Well, yeh, unless you're tall as flower

ahem *robert warnock*  :P
+1

Wayne Carey noted how a lot of spuds in the modern game only play professional level because of their height hahahaha
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Spite on November 02, 2015, 06:38:51 PM
Quote from: powersuperkents on November 02, 2015, 06:31:52 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on November 02, 2015, 04:44:55 PM
Quote from: PowerBug on November 02, 2015, 04:42:46 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on November 02, 2015, 04:42:04 PM
Quote from: PowerBug on November 02, 2015, 04:38:35 PM
Quote from: JBs-Hawks on November 02, 2015, 04:10:25 PM
For quitting the best job in the world because he doesnt want to put in the hard work
We could've all been professional athletes if we put in the hard work required.
No, we couldn't have. There's thousands that don't make it that have a higher level or work ethic or put more work in than those that do mate it, but simply don't have the talent.
Some need to work harder than others to get there but it is possible.
Sorry man still disagree. Plenty work harder than those that get drafted, and still aren't good enough
+1

Have to agree with Rico, there's plenty who are eligible and just need to put in the hard work (but fail to do so), however a vast majority of people never have the potential to begin with. You first need the genetics, the mindset, the build, the athleticism, and the effort (it's a lot to tick off and there is probably more) and then there are those you are naturally talented and built for the game (who really have to flower up to be overlooked for hard-workers). If you walked down a busy street, it would be incredibly rare to find somebody who could potentially be an athlete of any sorts (it's the reason players like Josh Thomas & Lachlan Keefe resorted to taking banned substances, they obviously needed them or risked being delisted as they just could not keep up with the rest of the competition or their teammates (no matter how hard they tried) - this applies to 99% of athletes who take performance enhancing drugs - I honestly cannot see any other reason why a professional athlete would take them but it really demonstrates the demanding nature of professional sports. Of course there is that minority who are already in the top tier but do it to constantly improve, conversely one may argue that they are doing it to remain in the top tier) 

I would say 95% of people don't have what it takes to begin with (the competitiveness makes it even more difficult among those who do have the attributes)

@Holz, could not agree more, honorable thing to do by Boston. Hopefully he finds something he enjoys

wtf you talking about mate. They got caught with a drug used to cut coke... Sure it is "performance enhancing" but I thought it was pretty widely understood they just did drugs and got busted, not trying to cheat in any way...AND on top of that, they wouldn't have been delisted at all. They both had fine seasons. So much so that we will probably draft them again next season when they become available. They could keep up with the competition just fine, what a load of bull you just spat out
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: meow meow on November 02, 2015, 07:12:33 PM
Boston couldn't handle the lifestyle of an AFL footballer? WTF is so difficult about it? He has to eat well, lift some weights, run lots, take cocaine, deal with women throwing themself at him despite that thing on his face, get paid far too much for kicking a ball around. What a soft cock.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Toga on November 02, 2015, 07:15:53 PM
Quote from: meow meow on November 02, 2015, 07:12:33 PM
deal with women throwing themself at him despite that thing on his face

;D ;D
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Spite on November 02, 2015, 07:27:47 PM
Quote from: meow meow on November 02, 2015, 07:12:33 PM
Boston couldn't handle the lifestyle of an AFL footballer? WTF is so difficult about it? He has to eat well, lift some weights, run lots, take cocaine, deal with women throwing themself at him despite that thing on his face, get paid far too much for kicking a ball around. What a soft cock.

Check coaches thread lol
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: powersuperkents on November 02, 2015, 08:59:17 PM
Quote from: Spite on November 02, 2015, 06:38:51 PM
Quote from: powersuperkents on November 02, 2015, 06:31:52 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on November 02, 2015, 04:44:55 PM
Quote from: PowerBug on November 02, 2015, 04:42:46 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on November 02, 2015, 04:42:04 PM
Quote from: PowerBug on November 02, 2015, 04:38:35 PM
Quote from: JBs-Hawks on November 02, 2015, 04:10:25 PM
For quitting the best job in the world because he doesnt want to put in the hard work
We could've all been professional athletes if we put in the hard work required.
No, we couldn't have. There's thousands that don't make it that have a higher level or work ethic or put more work in than those that do mate it, but simply don't have the talent.
Some need to work harder than others to get there but it is possible.
Sorry man still disagree. Plenty work harder than those that get drafted, and still aren't good enough
+1

Have to agree with Rico, there's plenty who are eligible and just need to put in the hard work (but fail to do so), however a vast majority of people never have the potential to begin with. You first need the genetics, the mindset, the build, the athleticism, and the effort (it's a lot to tick off and there is probably more) and then there are those you are naturally talented and built for the game (who really have to flower up to be overlooked for hard-workers). If you walked down a busy street, it would be incredibly rare to find somebody who could potentially be an athlete of any sorts (it's the reason players like Josh Thomas & Lachlan Keefe resorted to taking banned substances, they obviously needed them or risked being delisted as they just could not keep up with the rest of the competition or their teammates (no matter how hard they tried) - this applies to 99% of athletes who take performance enhancing drugs - I honestly cannot see any other reason why a professional athlete would take them but it really demonstrates the demanding nature of professional sports. Of course there is that minority who are already in the top tier but do it to constantly improve, conversely one may argue that they are doing it to remain in the top tier) 

I would say 95% of people don't have what it takes to begin with (the competitiveness makes it even more difficult among those who do have the attributes)

@Holz, could not agree more, honorable thing to do by Boston. Hopefully he finds something he enjoys

wtf you talking about mate. They got caught with a drug used to cut coke... Sure it is "performance enhancing" but I thought it was pretty widely understood they just did drugs and got busted, not trying to cheat in any way...AND on top of that, they wouldn't have been delisted at all. They both had fine seasons. So much so that we will probably draft them again next season when they become available. They could keep up with the competition just fine, what a load of bull you just spat out
First I'm hearing about any recreational drug use mate (mere misunderstanding), but I've looked and the articles confirm this was the case (what I heard was they took 'clenbuterol' and that was the most I investigated when it happened). However, you are focusing on one trivial aspect of my post and completely missing the point as those two players were merely used as a case study to illustrate that athletes generally take performance enhancing drugs to remain competitive which was an example used to illustrate how certain attributes were required to be a professional athlete (it was quite in-depth but I would not say it was too extreme a tangent).

To lump dismiss everything in the post based on one example for the purposes of explanation is significantly more ridiculous than the one-eyed focus on a particular sentence (however, I concede that I should have researched the two before using them as an example, from the news reports at the time they only mentioned the PE drug and necessity seemed the logical inference as it would any athlete - it just didn't seem too important at the time I was writing it as it was intended as a case study).

Upon learning this, these two would fit into the minority of performance-enhancing drug users called 'idiots who use them inadvertently'  :P

Although they aren't bad players, I would still say they were not Collingwood starting XXII material - they are young though. They were up and coming, but Collingwood were in decline (and the recent influx of talent would push them further out if they had not been caught - not saying Thomas wouldn't have been handy this season, but Taylor Adams rise after a disappointing 2014 would have affected his output) - I would say they were both fringe players

I'll edit the post;

'Have to agree with Rico, there's plenty who are eligible and just need to put in the hard work (but fail to do so), however a vast majority of people never have the potential to begin with. You first need the genetics, the mindset, the build, the athleticism, and the effort (it's a lot to tick off and there is probably more) and then there are those you are naturally talented and built for the game (who really have to flower up to be overlooked for hard-workers). If you walked down a busy street, it would be incredibly rare to find somebody who could potentially be an athlete of any sorts - this applies to 99% of athletes who take performance enhancing drugs - I honestly cannot see any other reason why a professional athlete would take them but it really demonstrates the demanding nature of professional sports. Of course there is that minority who are already in the top tier but do it to constantly improve, conversely one may argue that they are doing it to remain in the top tier)'
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: quinny88 on November 03, 2015, 02:15:34 AM
If people think natural talent and genetics are more important than hard work then you're dreaming.
Tony Liberatore won a Brownlow..
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Ricochet on November 03, 2015, 09:33:36 AM
Quote from: quinny88 on November 03, 2015, 02:15:34 AM
If people think natural talent and genetics are more important than hard work then you're dreaming.
Tony Liberatore won a Brownlow..
That was back then. Its different these days.
For every one that gets through on purely hard work there's 50 that worked just as hard and didnt make it

Don't get me wrong, you cannot get through on ability to play/genetics/athleticism/talent alone, but its the more important than a high work ethic alone.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Torpedo10 on November 03, 2015, 11:44:57 AM
Quote from: Ricochet on November 03, 2015, 09:33:36 AM
Quote from: quinny88 on November 03, 2015, 02:15:34 AM
If people think natural talent and genetics are more important than hard work then you're dreaming.
Tony Liberatore won a Brownlow..
That was back then. Its different these days.
For every one that gets through on purely hard work there's 50 that worked just as hard and didnt make it

Don't get me wrong, you cannot get through on ability to play/genetics/athleticism/talent alone, but its the more important than a high work ethic alone.
Where does one get the talent from then?

This is quite an interesting topic, from all views of all sports.

Is it pure luck if you have a talent in one particular sport?
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Ricochet on November 03, 2015, 11:54:15 AM
Quote from: Torpedo10 on November 03, 2015, 11:44:57 AM
Quote from: Ricochet on November 03, 2015, 09:33:36 AM
Quote from: quinny88 on November 03, 2015, 02:15:34 AM
If people think natural talent and genetics are more important than hard work then you're dreaming.
Tony Liberatore won a Brownlow..
That was back then. Its different these days.
For every one that gets through on purely hard work there's 50 that worked just as hard and didnt make it

Don't get me wrong, you cannot get through on ability to play/genetics/athleticism/talent alone, but its the more important than a high work ethic alone.
Where does one get the talent from then?

This is quite an interesting topic, from all views of all sports.

Is it pure luck if you have a talent in one particular sport?
For talent, majority is from your upbringing. If you have a footy in your hand from the day you're born, chances are you'll be ok at footy. Athletic ability and genetics are different obviously.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: jvalles69 on November 03, 2015, 03:27:27 PM
From my point of view I had a basketball in my hands from the age of 5 and excelled in that sport as I played in the backyard with my dad almost every day, got into competitive/social from the age of 12, was never coached a day in my life, by 15 I could just dunk a full height ring and made state under 16 and under 18 teams.  I only grew to 5'8" so people were picked in front of me so I just started playing socially only, I play with all those guys that got picked over me now in a social team and I'm the go to guy on most occassions.  I worked hard every day and played at a very high level, but my genetics didn't let me go further, and I was never coashed prior to those state teams.

On the other hand I picked up a footy for the first time at age 25, very quickly picked up the skills required and rarely miss a target with the ball, but still to this day frustrated as I don't/can't think like a footballer, it just doesn't come natural to me, but I can see the field like a PG hence I can hit the perfect targets 90% of the time.

My point is starting something young especially if you love it like I did with basketball and you're going to do fairly well.  I'm short and stocky so ppl underestimate me at basketball which is a great thing.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: quinny88 on November 03, 2015, 07:03:37 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on November 03, 2015, 09:33:36 AM
Quote from: quinny88 on November 03, 2015, 02:15:34 AM
If people think natural talent and genetics are more important than hard work then you're dreaming.
Tony Liberatore won a Brownlow..
That was back then. Its different these days.
For every one that gets through on purely hard work there's 50 that worked just as hard and didnt make it

Don't get me wrong, you cannot get through on ability to play/genetics/athleticism/talent alone, but its the more important than a high work ethic alone.

Hard work still beats natural talent and genetics IF the genetically gifted don't work hard.

Look at Gary Ablett Jnr for example. Naturally talented footballer but plodded along for the first part of his career and got by on just talent without being a star. Had he continued like that he would probably be gone by now. Decided to put in some hard work and from all reports trains and does more extras than anyone in the game and that's why he's arguably the greatest player of all time.
It's the hardest workers that seperate the super elite from the bunch

I played junior footy with Nathan Jones. He was always shorter than most, not quick or athletic but he worked 10 times harder than everyone else, went for 10k runs every night, had nights at training where he would only use his left foot to get better at that. They are the things that got him drafted and turned into a very good AFL footballer, not natural talent or genetics
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Ricochet on November 03, 2015, 07:14:30 PM
Quote from: quinny88 on November 03, 2015, 07:03:37 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on November 03, 2015, 09:33:36 AM
Quote from: quinny88 on November 03, 2015, 02:15:34 AM
If people think natural talent and genetics are more important than hard work then you're dreaming.
Tony Liberatore won a Brownlow..
That was back then. Its different these days.
For every one that gets through on purely hard work there's 50 that worked just as hard and didnt make it

Don't get me wrong, you cannot get through on ability to play/genetics/athleticism/talent alone, but its the more important than a high work ethic alone.

Hard work still beats natural talent and genetics IF the genetically gifted don't work hard.

Look at Gary Ablett Jnr for example. Naturally talented footballer but plodded along for the first part of his career and got by on just talent without being a star. Had he continued like that he would probably be gone by now. Decided to put in some hard work and from all reports trains and does more extras than anyone in the game and that's why he's arguably the greatest player of all time.
It's the hardest workers that seperate the super elite from the bunch

I played junior footy with Nathan Jones. He was always shorter than most, not quick or athletic but he worked 10 times harder than everyone else, went for 10k runs every night, had nights at training where he would only use his left foot to get better at that. They are the things that got him drafted and turned into a very good AFL footballer, not natural talent or genetics
Yeh but to get there, Gary wasn't drafted because he worked hard, he was drafted on his talent.

Work ethic can be drilled/taught at AFL level, talent/genetics cannot.

But I don't think we're arguing on the same thing man. I completely agree that work ethic is huge

But the original comment was if we all worked hard we could make it. It doesn't work like that, you still have to be able to move/play/understand the game and that is generally most important in a recruiters eyes



Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: kilbluff1985 on November 03, 2015, 08:53:46 PM
it's all about the hours isn't the saying goes if you put something like 10k hours in to something you master it
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: powersuperkents on November 03, 2015, 11:21:24 PM
Quote from: quinny88 on November 03, 2015, 07:03:37 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on November 03, 2015, 09:33:36 AM
Quote from: quinny88 on November 03, 2015, 02:15:34 AM
If people think natural talent and genetics are more important than hard work then you're dreaming.
Tony Liberatore won a Brownlow..
That was back then. Its different these days.
For every one that gets through on purely hard work there's 50 that worked just as hard and didnt make it

Don't get me wrong, you cannot get through on ability to play/genetics/athleticism/talent alone, but its the more important than a high work ethic alone.

Hard work still beats natural talent and genetics IF the genetically gifted don't work hard.


Not doubting that, the naturally talented and technically advanced falls all the time in every sport due to poor work ethic (Sam Blease (arguably, was never AFL quality but a talented junior nonetheless) and Colin Sylvia (his personality would have played a big part as well  :P)

Some have an advantage through genetics and natural talent over those that are hard-working, but at the end of the day there are no free-rides. Finally, to reiterate Rico's original point before the discussion went off an a tangent, a lot of people (based on the general population - not the junior football demographic) will not have the potential to play AFL football to begin with. Yes, the AFL has better odds than most other sports (i.e. around 100 draftees a year) but it only get more competitive from there, mathematically;

lets say 35 players per team (starting 22 + 3 emergencies + I'll be generous and say 10 fringe players because it does not really make too big a difference), times that by 18 and that leaves 630 players out of 23 million Australians. That is a tiny demographic (and the fact that 8% of the AFL population is comprised of Indigenous-Australians - .022% of the Australian population is even more incredible), the point of competitive sports is that only the best of the best can make it (otherwise who would pay to watch it). I think a lot of people want to say that it is possible for anyone to be an footballer, but I cannot help but think they are reflecting their own 'pipe-dreams' when they say it.

At the end of the day you can attribute hard-work or natural talent but I think you have to possess the fundamental technical skills or understand the game to begin with at a level superior to other youngsters and then develop from there. You can tell with a kid, teenager, or adult (recruiters can naturally tell as well), they either have the potential to develop into one of the best athletes in the particular sport or won't.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: PowerBug on November 03, 2015, 11:31:55 PM
Did someone say Sam Blease? :'(
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Ricochet on November 03, 2015, 11:33:27 PM
and even he got drafted ;)
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Mat0369 on November 04, 2015, 06:06:49 PM
Just a couple of things I heard on the Rush Hour on the way home. They were asking Jay Clark about the potential crop of delisted FA's and he said the following

*Carlton are at the front of the queue for Matt Wright and that he would slot straight into our 22
*All interest for Jed Adcock has cooled off and it looks like no one is interested
*Spindleshanks is almost signed, sealed and delivered to be playing under Rocket again at the Suns.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Grufflez on November 04, 2015, 10:24:06 PM
Quote from: powersuperkents on November 02, 2015, 06:31:52 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on November 02, 2015, 04:44:55 PM
Quote from: PowerBug on November 02, 2015, 04:42:46 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on November 02, 2015, 04:42:04 PM
Quote from: PowerBug on November 02, 2015, 04:38:35 PM
Quote from: JBs-Hawks on November 02, 2015, 04:10:25 PM
For quitting the best job in the world because he doesnt want to put in the hard work
We could've all been professional athletes if we put in the hard work required.
No, we couldn't have. There's thousands that don't make it that have a higher level or work ethic or put more work in than those that do mate it, but simply don't have the talent.
Some need to work harder than others to get there but it is possible.
Sorry man still disagree. Plenty work harder than those that get drafted, and still aren't good enough
+1

Have to agree with Rico, there's plenty who are eligible and just need to put in the hard work (but fail to do so), however a vast majority of people never have the potential to begin with. You first need the genetics, the mindset, the build, the athleticism, and the effort (it's a lot to tick off and there is probably more) and then there are those you are naturally talented and built for the game (who really have to flower up to be overlooked for hard-workers). If you walked down a busy street, it would be incredibly rare to find somebody who could potentially be an athlete of any sorts (it's the reason players like Josh Thomas & Lachlan Keefe resorted to taking banned substances, they obviously needed them or risked being delisted as they just could not keep up with the rest of the competition or their teammates (no matter how hard they tried) - this applies to 99% of athletes who take performance enhancing drugs - I honestly cannot see any other reason why a professional athlete would take them but it really demonstrates the demanding nature of professional sports. Of course there is that minority who are already in the top tier but do it to constantly improve, conversely one may argue that they are doing it to remain in the top tier) 

I would say 95% of people don't have what it takes to begin with (the competitiveness makes it even more difficult among those who do have the attributes)

@Holz, could not agree more, honorable thing to do by Boston. Hopefully he finds something he enjoys


Why do people cheat at cards ? Why do people steal, lie and deceive ? To get ahead.....some have more morals than others but make no mistake all have their price.
The thing i find most interesting about your statement is in regards to those ''99 % of drug takers'' just trying to catch up is, what does that say about the guys who can't be caught even by blokes loaded up on performance enhancing drugs?
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: powersuperkents on November 04, 2015, 10:50:49 PM
Quote from: Grufflez on November 04, 2015, 10:24:06 PM
Quote from: powersuperkents on November 02, 2015, 06:31:52 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on November 02, 2015, 04:44:55 PM
Quote from: PowerBug on November 02, 2015, 04:42:46 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on November 02, 2015, 04:42:04 PM
Quote from: PowerBug on November 02, 2015, 04:38:35 PM
Quote from: JBs-Hawks on November 02, 2015, 04:10:25 PM
For quitting the best job in the world because he doesnt want to put in the hard work
We could've all been professional athletes if we put in the hard work required.
No, we couldn't have. There's thousands that don't make it that have a higher level or work ethic or put more work in than those that do mate it, but simply don't have the talent.
Some need to work harder than others to get there but it is possible.
Sorry man still disagree. Plenty work harder than those that get drafted, and still aren't good enough
+1

Have to agree with Rico, there's plenty who are eligible and just need to put in the hard work (but fail to do so), however a vast majority of people never have the potential to begin with. You first need the genetics, the mindset, the build, the athleticism, and the effort (it's a lot to tick off and there is probably more) and then there are those you are naturally talented and built for the game (who really have to flower up to be overlooked for hard-workers). If you walked down a busy street, it would be incredibly rare to find somebody who could potentially be an athlete of any sorts (it's the reason players like Josh Thomas & Lachlan Keefe resorted to taking banned substances, they obviously needed them or risked being delisted as they just could not keep up with the rest of the competition or their teammates (no matter how hard they tried) - this applies to 99% of athletes who take performance enhancing drugs - I honestly cannot see any other reason why a professional athlete would take them but it really demonstrates the demanding nature of professional sports. Of course there is that minority who are already in the top tier but do it to constantly improve, conversely one may argue that they are doing it to remain in the top tier) 

I would say 95% of people don't have what it takes to begin with (the competitiveness makes it even more difficult among those who do have the attributes)

@Holz, could not agree more, honorable thing to do by Boston. Hopefully he finds something he enjoys


Why do people cheat at cards ? Why do people steal, lie and deceive ? To get ahead.....some have more morals than others but make no mistake all have their price.
The thing i find most interesting about your statement is in regards to those ''99 % of drug takers'' just trying to catch up is, what does that say about the guys who can't be caught even by blokes loaded up on performance enhancing drugs?
Either they are super-talents (the prototypical players of the various positions - the Franklins, Fyfes, Pendles, Abletts, Rances, Wingards etc. - just about one in every team but Carlton & Melbourne (a few others but they don't come to mind as quickly as these to teams - although Hogan, and possibly Cripps, will likely fit into these elite categories one day) or they are as sneaky as Lance Armstrong hahaha  :P
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: RaisyDaisy on November 05, 2015, 01:25:18 PM
Essendon have just delisted Nick O'Brien and Will Hams

O'Brien a bit stiff I reckon
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Kellogscrunchynut on November 05, 2015, 02:27:44 PM
O'Brien could have been something if it weren't for missing several years with injuries really rated him in 2012.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Pkbaldy on November 05, 2015, 04:58:58 PM
ZOB and NOB should both find clubs.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Ricochet on November 05, 2015, 05:04:26 PM
Quote from: Pkbaldy on November 05, 2015, 04:58:58 PM
ZOB and NOB should both find clubs.
what about The AdCock?
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Pkbaldy on November 05, 2015, 05:40:00 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on November 05, 2015, 05:04:26 PM
Quote from: Pkbaldy on November 05, 2015, 04:58:58 PM
ZOB and NOB should both find clubs.
what about The AdCock?

Just a little too short to get much interest.... 8)
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Ricochet on November 05, 2015, 05:46:09 PM
Quote from: Pkbaldy on November 05, 2015, 05:40:00 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on November 05, 2015, 05:04:26 PM
Quote from: Pkbaldy on November 05, 2015, 04:58:58 PM
ZOB and NOB should both find clubs.
what about The AdCock?

Just a little too short to get much interest.... 8)
haha. Short ppl would say it's all about how you use him that matters
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: H1bb3i2d on November 05, 2015, 10:22:11 PM
I didn't mind NOB, but too slow and one-dimensional. Doesn't hit the scoreboard, doesn't create or have the skills as a Sam Mitchell. Could well have been a good player and wouldn't have minded keeping going into the post-Watson era, but was never gonna be a superstar.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Ringo on November 06, 2015, 11:00:16 AM
AFL advises that Richmond has signed Andrew Moore (formerly Pt Adel) as a delisted free agent. He is now able to join the club immediately.

Andrew Moore now a Tiger
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: powersuperkents on November 06, 2015, 11:36:03 AM
Quote from: Ringo on November 06, 2015, 11:00:16 AM
AFL advises that Richmond has signed Andrew Moore (formerly Pt Adel) as a delisted free agent. He is now able to join the club immediately.

Andrew Moore now a Tiger
Good luck Richmond, we will be praying for you  :P
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Football Factory on November 06, 2015, 11:47:11 AM
I always thought he had a lot of potential .. im sure you will say that's all he had  ;D

If he gets a good run somewhere he could be alright imo .. might be a little bit of AXVIII SC bias involved here  :-X
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Ricochet on November 06, 2015, 02:30:42 PM
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2015-11-06/jarrad-grant-signs-with-gold-coast-as-a-delisted-free-agent?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=RSS+feed%3A+AFL+Latest+News

Former No.5 draft pick signs with Gold Coast

QuoteJARRAD Grant will get a chance to revive his AFL career at Gold Coast, with the Suns set to claim the former Western Bulldogs forward as a delisted free agent.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: powersuperkents on November 06, 2015, 11:46:13 PM
Quote from: FOOTBALL FACTORY on November 06, 2015, 11:47:11 AM
I always thought he had a lot of potential .. im sure you will say that's all he had  ;D

If he gets a good run somewhere he could be alright imo .. might be a little bit of AXVIII SC bias involved here  :-X
He was only a top 10 pick because it was probably the worst draft crop in history (the irony is that it contained Fyfe).

He was selected because he was ready-made and incredibly athletic, however there have always been questions surrounding whether or not he's a footballer (as opposed to an athlete). He has been nothing but frustrating for the Power faithful and I honestly prefer Butcher to him (not a fan of either but Butcher at least offers potential with his marking ability - which means nothing if he cannot kick straight >:( ).

He may be good for depth at Richmond. At his best he will be another Reece Conca (our game against St Kilda this season has been the only time I haven't been frustrated with Moore over the last two years - did show some promise in 2013, but Aaron Young managed to push ahead of him by 2014 with significantly less opportunities).

In summary, a good pick-up because it comes at no risk to the Tiges (no one wanted to trade for Moore or Aaron Young). Personally, I don't think they should expect much from him, but he was always a hard-worker at the Power and that is a trait that Hardwick is good at working with.   
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Ringo on November 09, 2015, 10:40:36 AM
http://www.carltonfc.com.au/carlton/news/2015-11-09/gorringe-a-tall-order-for-blues

Daniel Gorringe has joined Carlton.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: King Cripps on November 09, 2015, 10:45:46 AM
Quote from: Ringo on November 09, 2015, 10:40:36 AM
http://www.carltonfc.com.au/carlton/news/2015-11-09/gorringe-a-tall-order-for-blues

Daniel Gorringe has joined Carlton.
Finally we have some decent back up in Phillips/Goringe rather than Wood/Warnock
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: blue on November 09, 2015, 12:50:01 PM
Someone tell me if this is right, If a player has been delisted they can just be signed by any club?
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Big Mac on November 09, 2015, 12:51:33 PM
Quote from: King Cripps on November 09, 2015, 10:45:46 AM
Quote from: Ringo on November 09, 2015, 10:40:36 AM
http://www.carltonfc.com.au/carlton/news/2015-11-09/gorringe-a-tall-order-for-blues

Daniel Gorringe has joined Carlton.
Finally we have some decent back up in Phillips/Goringe rather than Wood/Warnock

Well, decent might be a bit of a stretch but I know what you mean  ;)
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Ringo on November 09, 2015, 12:53:58 PM
Quote from: blue on November 09, 2015, 12:50:01 PM
Someone tell me if this is right, If a player has been delisted they can just be signed by any club?
Yes you are correct once delisted they are free agents and can be picked up by any club with no compensation either.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: King Cripps on November 09, 2015, 01:02:57 PM
Quote from: Big  Mac on November 09, 2015, 12:51:33 PM
Quote from: King Cripps on November 09, 2015, 10:45:46 AM
Quote from: Ringo on November 09, 2015, 10:40:36 AM
http://www.carltonfc.com.au/carlton/news/2015-11-09/gorringe-a-tall-order-for-blues

Daniel Gorringe has joined Carlton.
Finally we have some decent back up in Phillips/Goringe rather than Wood/Warnock

Well, decent might be a bit of a stretch but I know what you mean  ;)
Anything is an upgrade from Wood and Warnock 8)

Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: blue on November 09, 2015, 01:03:48 PM
Quote from: Ringo on November 09, 2015, 12:53:58 PM
Quote from: blue on November 09, 2015, 12:50:01 PM
Someone tell me if this is right, If a player has been delisted they can just be signed by any club?
Yes you are correct once delisted they are free agents and can be picked up by any club with no compensation either.
Is there a cut off date?
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Ringo on November 09, 2015, 02:05:25 PM
Quote from: blue on November 09, 2015, 01:03:48 PM
Quote from: Ringo on November 09, 2015, 12:53:58 PM
Quote from: blue on November 09, 2015, 12:50:01 PM
Someone tell me if this is right, If a player has been delisted they can just be signed by any club?
Yes you are correct once delisted they are free agents and can be picked up by any club with no compensation either.
Is there a cut off date?
Some dates for you
Saturday October 31 - NAB AFL delisted player free agency period (1) begins

Monday November 9, 5pm - NAB AFL delisted player free agency period (1) closes

Wednesday November 11 -  NAB AFL delisted player free agency period (2) begins

Friday November 20, 5pm - NAB AFL delisted player free agency period (2) closes

Wednesday November 25 - NAB AFL delisted player free agency period (3) begins

Thursday November 26, 2pm - NAB AFL delisted player free agency period (3) closes

Tuesday December 1, 2pm - Final AFL club list lodgement

Delisted players can also nominate for the NAB AFL Pre-Season Draft.

So as you can see there are a further 2 Free agency periods.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: blue on November 09, 2015, 02:15:20 PM
Quote from: Ringo on November 09, 2015, 02:05:25 PM
Quote from: blue on November 09, 2015, 01:03:48 PM
Quote from: Ringo on November 09, 2015, 12:53:58 PM
Quote from: blue on November 09, 2015, 12:50:01 PM
Someone tell me if this is right, If a player has been delisted they can just be signed by any club?
Yes you are correct once delisted they are free agents and can be picked up by any club with no compensation either.
Is there a cut off date?
Some dates for you
Saturday October 31 - NAB AFL delisted player free agency period (1) begins

Monday November 9, 5pm - NAB AFL delisted player free agency period (1) closes

Wednesday November 11 -  NAB AFL delisted player free agency period (2) begins

Friday November 20, 5pm - NAB AFL delisted player free agency period (2) closes

Wednesday November 25 - NAB AFL delisted player free agency period (3) begins

Thursday November 26, 2pm - NAB AFL delisted player free agency period (3) closes

Tuesday December 1, 2pm - Final AFL club list lodgement

Delisted players can also nominate for the NAB AFL Pre-Season Draft.

So as you can see there are a further 2 Free agency periods.
Thanks ringo, I had no idea
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: RaisyDaisy on November 10, 2015, 02:27:59 PM
Viv Michie delisted, but Dees hope to rookie him
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Ringo on November 23, 2015, 03:48:40 PM
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2015-11-23/exlion-adcock-allowed-to-train-with-bulldogs

Jed Adcock given permission to trade with Dogs could be a draft or rookie pick.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: King Cripps on November 26, 2015, 03:30:03 PM
Matty wright now at the blues! SOS is god :-*
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Mat0369 on November 26, 2015, 04:50:10 PM
Quote from: King Cripps on November 26, 2015, 03:30:03 PM
Matty wright now at the blues! SOS is god :-*

This
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Bully on November 26, 2015, 11:10:12 PM
Quote from: King Cripps on November 26, 2015, 03:30:03 PM
Matty wright now at the blues! SOS is god :-*

Good pick-up.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: RaisyDaisy on July 14, 2016, 10:13:41 AM
I know it's not the off season, but the trade talks are already starting to appear

Sounding like Hibberd is a real chance of moving to Melbourne, and I just read that Sydney has offered something like 500k a year to 16 gamer Mason Wood, and that Tom Mitchell going to Hawthorn is looking likely

Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: plumdog millionaire on July 14, 2016, 10:26:47 AM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on July 14, 2016, 10:13:41 AM
I know it's not the off season, but the trade talks are already starting to appear

Sounding like Hibberd is a real chance of moving to Melbourne, and I just read that Sydney has offered something like 500k a year to 16 gamer Mason Wood, and that Tom Mitchell going to Hawthorn is looking likely
Hibberd has become a bit more expendable with the emergence of WALLA, Hartley and Dea so I wouldn't be too upset if he left
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Purple 77 on July 14, 2016, 11:24:53 AM
Although this might seem like BS, Hibberd was always one of my favourite non-Melbourne players (thank you Worlds), so I'm pretty stoked that he is linked to us :D

But... we don't exactly, like, NEED him. I mean, you don't say no, but we're desperate for another decent tall defender.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: JBs-Hawks on July 14, 2016, 05:44:07 PM
Quote from: plumdog millionaire on July 14, 2016, 10:26:47 AM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on July 14, 2016, 10:13:41 AM
I know it's not the off season, but the trade talks are already starting to appear

Sounding like Hibberd is a real chance of moving to Melbourne, and I just read that Sydney has offered something like 500k a year to 16 gamer Mason Wood, and that Tom Mitchell going to Hawthorn is looking likely
Hibberd has become a bit more expendable with the emergence of WALLA, Hartley and Dea so I wouldn't be too upset if he left

Hibberd is miles above those 3 as footballers, with Walla being the only one with potential to get close to him.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Capper on July 14, 2016, 05:57:03 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on July 14, 2016, 10:13:41 AM
I know it's not the off season, but the trade talks are already starting to appear

Sounding like Hibberd is a real chance of moving to Melbourne, and I just read that Sydney has offered something like 500k a year to 16 gamer Mason Wood, and that Tom Mitchell going to Hawthorn is looking likely
Does this mean that the Swans trade Sam Reid as well??

Crazy that Titch will go to the Hawks
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: The_Captain on July 14, 2016, 06:24:37 PM
Titch to come home to west coast? rumors circling.

... Not really, i just wouldnt say no  :P
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: RaisyDaisy on July 14, 2016, 06:49:57 PM
Quote from: Capper on July 14, 2016, 05:57:03 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on July 14, 2016, 10:13:41 AM
I know it's not the off season, but the trade talks are already starting to appear

Sounding like Hibberd is a real chance of moving to Melbourne, and I just read that Sydney has offered something like 500k a year to 16 gamer Mason Wood, and that Tom Mitchell going to Hawthorn is looking likely
Does this mean that the Swans trade Sam Reid as well??

Crazy that Titch will go to the Hawks

Apparently they expect Ted to retire which opens up space in the cap

Tom Mitchell to take over from Sam Mitchell - unbelievable these Hawks
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: meow meow on July 14, 2016, 07:02:41 PM
Carlton looking to do another bulk deal with GWS to get Tomlinson, Hoskin-Elliott and Ahern.

Marchbank looking to return to Vic, Saints and Demons (TMac replacement) keen.

Jack Steele uncontracted and Tiges, NM and Saints sniffing around.

Dogs interested in Vardy and Nichols.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: powersuperkents on July 14, 2016, 08:14:12 PM
Quote from: meow meow on July 14, 2016, 07:02:41 PM
Carlton looking to do another bulk deal with GWS to get Tomlinson, Hoskin-Elliott and Ahern.

Marchbank looking to return to Vic, Saints and Demons (TMac replacement) keen.

Jack Steele uncontracted and Tiges, NM and Saints sniffing around.

Dogs interested in Vardy and Nichols.
Sweet... I know this kid has been on the LTI, but he needs to get games early - which is hard in GWS.

He's a technically advanced freak and could be the next Deledio.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Grazz on July 14, 2016, 09:00:01 PM
Crows keen on Rocky apparently. Not sure how realistic their chances are.  :-\
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: GoLions on July 14, 2016, 09:12:47 PM
Quote from: Grazz on July 14, 2016, 09:00:01 PM
Crows keen on Rocky apparently. Not sure how realistic their chances are.  :-\
Piss off :P
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: T Dog on July 14, 2016, 10:15:09 PM
Quote from: GoLions on July 14, 2016, 09:12:47 PM
Quote from: Grazz on July 14, 2016, 09:00:01 PM
Crows keen on Rocky apparently. Not sure how realistic their chances are.  :-\
Piss off :P

C'mon GL ..think it through...then tell him   ;D
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: strikes91 on July 14, 2016, 11:38:55 PM
There is an article online about him going to the crows and it's fairly land stuff. Pretty sure he said last week he isn't leaving.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: meow meow on July 27, 2016, 03:04:24 PM
Michael Hurley will be playing alongside Crameri at the Western Bulldogs next season. Sorry Bombers.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Bill Manspeaker on July 27, 2016, 03:31:24 PM
come to the Sainters Hurley

I said earlier in the year if I were Hurley you couldn't get me to the Dogs fast enough. even if I was offered more cashola elsewhere

hopefully follows the cash to the Saints though. have heard conflicting things on his and Carlisle's relationship. some say best buds, others say they couldn't stand each other
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Purple 77 on July 27, 2016, 04:21:18 PM
Quote from: meow meow on July 27, 2016, 03:04:24 PM
Michael Hurley will be playing alongside Crameri at the Western Bulldogs next season. Sorry Bombers.

Following on the claims that Boyd should take a pay-cut to facilitate the Hurley acquisition? :P
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Grazz on July 27, 2016, 07:40:40 PM
Quote from: strikes91 on July 14, 2016, 11:38:55 PM
There is an article online about him going to the crows and it's fairly land stuff. Pretty sure he said last week he isn't leaving.

Tend to agree, when something sounds to good to be true it usually is.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: meow meow on July 27, 2016, 08:54:53 PM
The 400K waste of space Sam Reid is going to join his brother. Swans trying to either a) keep Mitchell, or b) make a play for JOM!
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: powersuperkents on July 27, 2016, 09:30:38 PM
Quote from: meow meow on July 27, 2016, 08:54:53 PM
The 400K waste of space Sam Reid is going to join his brother. Swans trying to either a) keep Mitchell, or b) make a play for JOM!
YES!!!

The PIES LOOK SET TO WASTE MORE MONEY ON USELESS PLAYERS
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: RaisyDaisy on July 27, 2016, 09:37:41 PM
Ed can splash some cash and open up the Reid Rehab Centre down at the Holden Centre
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: SydneyRox on July 28, 2016, 10:11:33 AM
Quote from: meow meow on July 27, 2016, 08:54:53 PM
The 400K waste of space Sam Reid is going to join his brother. Swans trying to either a) keep Mitchell, or b) make a play for JOM!

Really? havent heard this one? Would surprise me a little, since our forward talls arent all that great, even if Wood is a done deal

Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: RaisyDaisy on July 28, 2016, 10:26:55 AM
Quote from: SydneyRox on July 28, 2016, 10:11:33 AM
Quote from: meow meow on July 27, 2016, 08:54:53 PM
The 400K waste of space Sam Reid is going to join his brother. Swans trying to either a) keep Mitchell, or b) make a play for JOM!

Really? havent heard this one? Would surprise me a little, since our forward talls arent all that great, even if Wood is a done deal

Mason?

Already re-signed with North
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: SydneyRox on July 28, 2016, 02:37:30 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on July 28, 2016, 10:26:55 AM
Quote from: SydneyRox on July 28, 2016, 10:11:33 AM
Quote from: meow meow on July 27, 2016, 08:54:53 PM
The 400K waste of space Sam Reid is going to join his brother. Swans trying to either a) keep Mitchell, or b) make a play for JOM!

Really? havent heard this one? Would surprise me a little, since our forward talls arent all that great, even if Wood is a done deal

Mason?

Already re-signed with North

Really?? Cant find anything on that either??
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: GoLions on July 28, 2016, 02:39:11 PM
Quote from: SydneyRox on July 28, 2016, 02:37:30 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on July 28, 2016, 10:26:55 AM
Quote from: SydneyRox on July 28, 2016, 10:11:33 AM
Quote from: meow meow on July 27, 2016, 08:54:53 PM
The 400K waste of space Sam Reid is going to join his brother. Swans trying to either a) keep Mitchell, or b) make a play for JOM!

Really? havent heard this one? Would surprise me a little, since our forward talls arent all that great, even if Wood is a done deal

Mason?

Already re-signed with North

Really?? Cant find anything on that either??
5 year deal iirc
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Gigantor on July 28, 2016, 02:40:52 PM
Quote from: GoLions on July 28, 2016, 02:39:11 PM
Quote from: SydneyRox on July 28, 2016, 02:37:30 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on July 28, 2016, 10:26:55 AM
Quote from: SydneyRox on July 28, 2016, 10:11:33 AM
Quote from: meow meow on July 27, 2016, 08:54:53 PM
The 400K waste of space Sam Reid is going to join his brother. Swans trying to either a) keep Mitchell, or b) make a play for JOM!

Really? havent heard this one? Would surprise me a little, since our forward talls arent all that great, even if Wood is a done deal

Mason?

Already re-signed with North

Really?? Cant find anything on that either??
5 year deal iirc

http://www.afl.com.au/news/2016-07-24/mason-wood-resigns-with-north-melbourne
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: SydneyRox on July 28, 2016, 02:49:09 PM
i just went looking and couldnt find that!!

thanks!!

any link to the Sam Reid rumor?

Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Nige on July 29, 2016, 06:02:22 PM
Norf apparently interested in Chris Mayne.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: fanTCfool on July 29, 2016, 06:03:30 PM
Quote from: Nige on July 29, 2016, 06:02:22 PM
Norf apparently interested in Chris Mayne.

Lol Norf, recruiting more oldies
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: meow meow on July 30, 2016, 01:59:54 PM
Strong whispers that Rocky is headed back to Christchurch.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Purple 77 on July 30, 2016, 03:32:38 PM
Quote from: meow meow on July 30, 2016, 01:59:54 PM
Strong whispers that Rocky is headed back to Christchurch.

Ah haha
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: RaisyDaisy on July 31, 2016, 08:36:16 AM
Carlton have officially thrown their name into the ring for JOM
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Mat0369 on July 31, 2016, 04:38:31 PM
So that makes it Mitchell, O'Meara, Marchbank, Tomlinson, Tom Downie and I think a couple of others we are rumored to have interest in. You can probably throw in Stewart, Steele and Prestia. I'm thinking Tomlinson is the only one close to a lock to be at Carlton next year.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Holz on August 01, 2016, 10:24:52 AM
Quote from: meow meow on July 30, 2016, 01:59:54 PM
Strong whispers that Rocky is headed back to Christchurch.

got to double check your sources. I heard it was Dublin
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: kilbluff1985 on August 01, 2016, 08:37:08 PM
http://www.foxsports.com.au/afl/essendon-leads-several-victorian-clubs-aiming-to-lure-out-of-contract-crow-brad-crouch-to-their-club/news-story/2bd8d5defd65cbc23c528a57ae2095bd?from=public_rss&utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter

surely he wouldn't leave his brother and a good team?
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Jukes on August 01, 2016, 08:52:31 PM
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on August 01, 2016, 08:37:08 PM
http://www.foxsports.com.au/afl/essendon-leads-several-victorian-clubs-aiming-to-lure-out-of-contract-crow-brad-crouch-to-their-club/news-story/2bd8d5defd65cbc23c528a57ae2095bd?from=public_rss&utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter

surely he wouldn't leave his brother and a good team?

Well, if he joins the dons he'll be a premiership player within a few years...
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: kilbluff1985 on August 01, 2016, 09:04:26 PM
Quote from: Jukes on August 01, 2016, 08:52:31 PM
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on August 01, 2016, 08:37:08 PM
http://www.foxsports.com.au/afl/essendon-leads-several-victorian-clubs-aiming-to-lure-out-of-contract-crow-brad-crouch-to-their-club/news-story/2bd8d5defd65cbc23c528a57ae2095bd?from=public_rss&utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter

surely he wouldn't leave his brother and a good team?

Well, if he joins the dons he'll be a premiership player within a few years...

and if he stays he could be one this year and/or next year
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: JBs-Hawks on August 01, 2016, 10:11:34 PM
4thorn this year and then the giant dynasty begins
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Bill Manspeaker on August 02, 2016, 07:43:05 PM
http://www.zerohanger.com/reports-saints-leading-race-for-gws-young-gun-6391/

(http://rs291.pbsrc.com/albums/ll290/JiMmIyZ/FamilyGuy-Good20Good.gif?w=480&h=480&fit=clip)
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: fanTCfool on August 02, 2016, 08:38:56 PM
Quote from: Bill Manspeaker on August 02, 2016, 07:43:05 PM
http://www.zerohanger.com/reports-saints-leading-race-for-gws-young-gun-6391/

(http://rs291.pbsrc.com/albums/ll290/JiMmIyZ/FamilyGuy-Good20Good.gif?w=480&h=480&fit=clip)

You can have Steele, we'll take T Mitch/Jaeger
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Mat0369 on August 02, 2016, 09:06:37 PM
Tomlinson and Marchbank
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Holz on August 03, 2016, 10:39:45 AM
Quote from: Jukes on August 01, 2016, 08:52:31 PM
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on August 01, 2016, 08:37:08 PM
http://www.foxsports.com.au/afl/essendon-leads-several-victorian-clubs-aiming-to-lure-out-of-contract-crow-brad-crouch-to-their-club/news-story/2bd8d5defd65cbc23c528a57ae2095bd?from=public_rss&utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter

surely he wouldn't leave his brother and a good team?

Well, if he joins the dons he'll be a premiership player within a few years...

Essendon fans, always good for a laugh.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: kilbluff1985 on August 03, 2016, 10:57:31 AM
Quote from: Holz on August 03, 2016, 10:39:45 AM
Quote from: Jukes on August 01, 2016, 08:52:31 PM
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on August 01, 2016, 08:37:08 PM
http://www.foxsports.com.au/afl/essendon-leads-several-victorian-clubs-aiming-to-lure-out-of-contract-crow-brad-crouch-to-their-club/news-story/2bd8d5defd65cbc23c528a57ae2095bd?from=public_rss&utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter

surely he wouldn't leave his brother and a good team?

Well, if he joins the dons he'll be a premiership player within a few years...

Essendon fans, always good for a laugh.

least we're good for something unlike North fans
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Holz on August 03, 2016, 12:02:04 PM
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on August 03, 2016, 10:57:31 AM
Quote from: Holz on August 03, 2016, 10:39:45 AM
Quote from: Jukes on August 01, 2016, 08:52:31 PM
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on August 01, 2016, 08:37:08 PM
http://www.foxsports.com.au/afl/essendon-leads-several-victorian-clubs-aiming-to-lure-out-of-contract-crow-brad-crouch-to-their-club/news-story/2bd8d5defd65cbc23c528a57ae2095bd?from=public_rss&utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter

surely he wouldn't leave his brother and a good team?

Well, if he joins the dons he'll be a premiership player within a few years...

Essendon fans, always good for a laugh.

least we're good for something unlike North fans

I personally like watching my team in Finals.

back on topic not sure how Mayne fits into our forward line. He is older but not as old as betrie boomer waite who will all go this year or next.

Brown Turner Wood Mayne Thomas looks alright
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: The_Captain on August 03, 2016, 02:05:44 PM
Quote from: Holz on August 03, 2016, 12:02:04 PM
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on August 03, 2016, 10:57:31 AM
Quote from: Holz on August 03, 2016, 10:39:45 AM
Quote from: Jukes on August 01, 2016, 08:52:31 PM
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on August 01, 2016, 08:37:08 PM
http://www.foxsports.com.au/afl/essendon-leads-several-victorian-clubs-aiming-to-lure-out-of-contract-crow-brad-crouch-to-their-club/news-story/2bd8d5defd65cbc23c528a57ae2095bd?from=public_rss&utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter

surely he wouldn't leave his brother and a good team?

Well, if he joins the dons he'll be a premiership player within a few years...

Essendon fans, always good for a laugh.

least we're good for something unlike North fans

I personally like watching my team in Finals.

back on topic not sure how Mayne fits into our forward line. He is older but not as old as betrie boomer waite who will all go this year or next.

Brown Turner Wood Mayne Thomas looks alright

What is it with North Melbourne and their recruiting of old washed up players/ rejects.

Waite, Higgins, Dal Santo, jacobs, bastinac, nahas. And now they want to add Mayne to that list? Recruiting players like that will send them backwards.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: PowerBug on August 03, 2016, 02:10:16 PM
The first 4 on that list have sent them forwards I reckon, Bastinac was FROM North and they offloaded him so he doesn't count, only Nahas has been bad for them.

Also Jacobs was like 20 when he came from Port, can hardly call him an old washed up player.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: RaisyDaisy on August 03, 2016, 02:13:21 PM
Jay Clark in the HS says North should chase Vickery
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Holz on August 03, 2016, 02:16:06 PM
Quote from: The_Captain on August 03, 2016, 02:05:44 PM
Quote from: Holz on August 03, 2016, 12:02:04 PM
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on August 03, 2016, 10:57:31 AM
Quote from: Holz on August 03, 2016, 10:39:45 AM
Quote from: Jukes on August 01, 2016, 08:52:31 PM
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on August 01, 2016, 08:37:08 PM
http://www.foxsports.com.au/afl/essendon-leads-several-victorian-clubs-aiming-to-lure-out-of-contract-crow-brad-crouch-to-their-club/news-story/2bd8d5defd65cbc23c528a57ae2095bd?from=public_rss&utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter

surely he wouldn't leave his brother and a good team?

Well, if he joins the dons he'll be a premiership player within a few years...

Essendon fans, always good for a laugh.

least we're good for something unlike North fans

I personally like watching my team in Finals.

back on topic not sure how Mayne fits into our forward line. He is older but not as old as betrie boomer waite who will all go this year or next.

Brown Turner Wood Mayne Thomas looks alright

What is it with North Melbourne and their recruiting of old washed up players/ rejects.

Waite, Higgins, Dal Santo, jacobs, bastinac, nahas. And now they want to add Mayne to that list? Recruiting players like that will send them backwards.

Waite was amazing in last years finals and was even better in the first few months. He has been hit by injuries but if he can get healthy he is a very handy player

Higgins was good all of last year and again if he can get healthy can help us do damage.

NDS is looking in good form and im happy to have him on the squad.

Jacobs is an elite tagger and was totally shutting players out and was a secret weapon. Again he has been injured but we want him back.

Bastinac was recrutied from North to the Lions.

Nahas, yeah i dont love this pick up.

so in summary our pick ups have been injured if they can all get 100% then i think we can push for a flag. People think north crumbled because of the draw it really was because of the injuries to the above guys and wells etc..

remember at the start of the year we beat Crows, Dogs, In Form carlton, so it wasnt just all easy beats.

we lost to hawks by under 2 goals.

Sydney at their home
geelong at thier home massively injured
adealide at their home
eagles at their home

our one bad game this year was losing to Port in Melbourne. if we had of won that game we would be equal second.

Higgins 2 weeks
Waite - 5-6 weeks
Jacobs 1 week
Wood 5 weeks
Mcdonald 2 weeks
Turner 3 weeks

if we had of stayed healthy i reckon we would be sitting a game clear in 2nd.


Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: The_Captain on August 03, 2016, 02:17:18 PM
Quote from: PowerBug on August 03, 2016, 02:10:16 PM
The first 4 on that list have sent them forwards I reckon, Bastinac was FROM North and they offloaded him so he doesn't count, only Nahas has been bad for them.

Also Jacobs was like 20 when he came from Port, can hardly call him an old washed up player.

I dunno about forwards- they dont seem to be any better off now than where they were at 4-5 years ago. Not old and washed up, but Port would be happy with what they got for him. Yeah got that bastinac one around the wrong way, hes Brisbanes problem now.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: meow meow on August 03, 2016, 02:19:25 PM
Nahas hasn't kept anyone out of the team. Only plays when others are injured. Has been handy back up and was a rookie listed player so cost nothing.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: The_Captain on August 03, 2016, 02:22:56 PM
Moral of the story. Chris Mayne will no help towards the future of the Roos. I think they would be going backwards if they picked him up. isnt he requesting 400k? Massive overs for him.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Rusty00 on August 03, 2016, 02:43:47 PM
Quote from: The_Captain on August 03, 2016, 02:17:18 PM
Quote from: PowerBug on August 03, 2016, 02:10:16 PM
The first 4 on that list have sent them forwards I reckon, Bastinac was FROM North and they offloaded him so he doesn't count, only Nahas has been bad for them.

Also Jacobs was like 20 when he came from Port, can hardly call him an old washed up player.

I dunno about forwards- they dont seem to be any better off now than where they were at 4-5 years ago. Not old and washed up, but Port would be happy with what they got for him. Yeah got that bastinac one around the wrong way, hes Brisbanes problem now.
Port got nothing for him. They couldn't/wouldn't organise a trade for him, so he left and North picked him up in the draft ;)
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Jukes on August 03, 2016, 03:12:28 PM
Quote from: The_Captain on August 03, 2016, 02:22:56 PM
Moral of the story. Chris Mayne will no help towards the future of the Roos. I think they would be going backwards if they picked him up. isnt he requesting 400k? Massive overs for him.

Yeah he's a spud, shouldn't even be playing at AFL level. Was decent in 2011-13 (25, 39, 37 goals) but since then has kicked 57 goals in 58 games, with 7/16 goals this season coming in games against the bombers and lions. Should be playing for Peel not getting 400k/year at North!
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: The_Captain on August 03, 2016, 03:40:54 PM
Quote from: Jukes on August 03, 2016, 03:12:28 PM
Quote from: The_Captain on August 03, 2016, 02:22:56 PM
Moral of the story. Chris Mayne will no help towards the future of the Roos. I think they would be going backwards if they picked him up. isnt he requesting 400k? Massive overs for him.

Yeah he's a spud, shouldn't even be playing at AFL level. Was decent in 2011-13 (25, 39, 37 goals) but since then has kicked 57 goals in 58 games, with 7/16 goals this season coming in games against the bombers and lions. Should be playing for Peel not getting 400k/year at North!

Yep, belongs at peel getting $1200 a game!
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: kilbluff1985 on August 03, 2016, 03:45:16 PM
Mayne and Dawson are Freos problem in a nutshell giving games to mediocre players with no upside
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: elephants on August 03, 2016, 03:57:23 PM
Its a competition wide problem though.

The whole lets overpay key forwards who have had 1 or 2 good seasons. flower being a midfielder, be an inconsistent key forward and watch the 0's get added to your contract.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: GoLions on August 03, 2016, 04:15:20 PM
Quote from: elephants on August 03, 2016, 03:57:23 PM
Its a competition wide problem though.

The whole lets overpay key forwards who have had 1 or 2 good seasons. flower being a midfielder, be an inconsistent key forward and watch the 0's get added to your contract.
I don't mean to brag, but in U12s I kicked 46.7 from 12 games
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: elephants on August 03, 2016, 04:20:03 PM
Quote from: GoLions on August 03, 2016, 04:15:20 PM
Quote from: elephants on August 03, 2016, 03:57:23 PM
Its a competition wide problem though.

The whole lets overpay key forwards who have had 1 or 2 good seasons. flower being a midfielder, be an inconsistent key forward and watch the 0's get added to your contract.
I don't mean to brag, but in U12s I kicked 46.7 from 12 games

*Gets on the phone to Ross Lyon*

"G'day Ross, listen I've heard of this young kid, he's got a lot of talent, something real special. He was on my radar about 10 years ago but I still think he can provide something of a target."
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: GoLions on August 03, 2016, 04:22:36 PM
Ahaha ;D
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Pkbaldy on August 03, 2016, 04:30:03 PM
Quote from: elephants on August 03, 2016, 04:20:03 PM
Quote from: GoLions on August 03, 2016, 04:15:20 PM
Quote from: elephants on August 03, 2016, 03:57:23 PM
Its a competition wide problem though.

The whole lets overpay key forwards who have had 1 or 2 good seasons. flower being a midfielder, be an inconsistent key forward and watch the 0's get added to your contract.
I don't mean to brag, but in U12s I kicked 46.7 from 12 games

*Gets on the phone to Ross Lyon*

"G'day Ross, listen I've heard of this young kid, he's got a lot of talent, something real special. He was on my radar about 10 years ago but I still think he can provide something of a target."

He's still got the 30kg frame from 10 years ago too.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: My Chumps on August 03, 2016, 04:36:25 PM
Quote from: meow meow on August 03, 2016, 02:19:25 PM
Nahas hasn't kept anyone out of the team. Only plays when others are injured. Has been handy back up and was a rookie listed player so cost nothing.
Nahas has been such a whipping boy for football fans he's actually become underrated haha. Not terrific, but he's been solid filler for the Roos.

http://www.theage.com.au/afl/afl-news/richmond-tigers-look-set-to-land-gold-coast-midfielder-dion-prestia-20160802-gqjewz.html (http://www.theage.com.au/afl/afl-news/richmond-tigers-look-set-to-land-gold-coast-midfielder-dion-prestia-20160802-gqjewz.html)
Why on earth would you pick the Tiges, christ
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Holz on August 03, 2016, 05:07:23 PM
Quote from: My Chumps on August 03, 2016, 04:36:25 PM
Quote from: meow meow on August 03, 2016, 02:19:25 PM
Nahas hasn't kept anyone out of the team. Only plays when others are injured. Has been handy back up and was a rookie listed player so cost nothing.
Nahas has been such a whipping boy for football fans he's actually become underrated haha. Not terrific, but he's been solid filler for the Roos.

http://www.theage.com.au/afl/afl-news/richmond-tigers-look-set-to-land-gold-coast-midfielder-dion-prestia-20160802-gqjewz.html (http://www.theage.com.au/afl/afl-news/richmond-tigers-look-set-to-land-gold-coast-midfielder-dion-prestia-20160802-gqjewz.html)
Why on earth would you pick the Tiges, christ

certainly have talent

Dmart Cotchin Lids Jroo Rance Prestia.

he might as well join Treloar at the pies though

Pendles Treloar Prestia Sidey Grundy
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Ricochet on August 03, 2016, 05:11:46 PM
Quote from: Holz on August 03, 2016, 05:07:23 PM
Quote from: My Chumps on August 03, 2016, 04:36:25 PM
Quote from: meow meow on August 03, 2016, 02:19:25 PM
Nahas hasn't kept anyone out of the team. Only plays when others are injured. Has been handy back up and was a rookie listed player so cost nothing.
Nahas has been such a whipping boy for football fans he's actually become underrated haha. Not terrific, but he's been solid filler for the Roos.

http://www.theage.com.au/afl/afl-news/richmond-tigers-look-set-to-land-gold-coast-midfielder-dion-prestia-20160802-gqjewz.html (http://www.theage.com.au/afl/afl-news/richmond-tigers-look-set-to-land-gold-coast-midfielder-dion-prestia-20160802-gqjewz.html)
Why on earth would you pick the Tiges, christ

certainly have talent

Dmart Cotchin Lids Jroo Rance Prestia.

he might as well join Treloar at the pies though

Pendles Treloar Prestia Sidey Grundy
don't forget Tay Adams and Crisp
and then there's Greenwood too
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: My Chumps on August 03, 2016, 05:22:31 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on August 03, 2016, 05:11:46 PM
Quote from: Holz on August 03, 2016, 05:07:23 PM
Quote from: My Chumps on August 03, 2016, 04:36:25 PM
Quote from: meow meow on August 03, 2016, 02:19:25 PM
Nahas hasn't kept anyone out of the team. Only plays when others are injured. Has been handy back up and was a rookie listed player so cost nothing.
Nahas has been such a whipping boy for football fans he's actually become underrated haha. Not terrific, but he's been solid filler for the Roos.

http://www.theage.com.au/afl/afl-news/richmond-tigers-look-set-to-land-gold-coast-midfielder-dion-prestia-20160802-gqjewz.html (http://www.theage.com.au/afl/afl-news/richmond-tigers-look-set-to-land-gold-coast-midfielder-dion-prestia-20160802-gqjewz.html)
Why on earth would you pick the Tiges, christ

certainly have talent

Dmart Cotchin Lids Jroo Rance Prestia.

he might as well join Treloar at the pies though

Pendles Treloar Prestia Sidey Grundy
don't forget Tay Adams and Crisp
and then there's Greenwood too
Calm down guys, surely we don't want to be advocating players going to Collingwood
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Mat0369 on August 03, 2016, 05:56:46 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on August 03, 2016, 02:13:21 PM
Jay Clark in the HS says North should chase Vickery

I laughed at that. Brisbane might get desperate and offer him a contract.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Mat0369 on August 03, 2016, 06:00:01 PM
Quote from: My Chumps on August 03, 2016, 04:36:25 PM
http://www.theage.com.au/afl/afl-news/richmond-tigers-look-set-to-land-gold-coast-midfielder-dion-prestia-20160802-gqjewz.html (http://www.theage.com.au/afl/afl-news/richmond-tigers-look-set-to-land-gold-coast-midfielder-dion-prestia-20160802-gqjewz.html)
Why on earth would you pick the Tiges, christ

Gold Coast have a couple of good academy players this year right? They will want to get as many points as possible so I can see them trading back their own pick do get as many of those mid round picks as possible that are worth more points, so I think they will want a top 5 pick and maybe a 2nd rounder as well for Prestia. Do Richmond really have the ammunition to get the deal done?
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: T Dog on August 03, 2016, 06:24:58 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on August 03, 2016, 05:11:46 PM
Quote from: Holz on August 03, 2016, 05:07:23 PM
Quote from: My Chumps on August 03, 2016, 04:36:25 PM
Quote from: meow meow on August 03, 2016, 02:19:25 PM
Nahas hasn't kept anyone out of the team. Only plays when others are injured. Has been handy back up and was a rookie listed player so cost nothing.
Nahas has been such a whipping boy for football fans he's actually become underrated haha. Not terrific, but he's been solid filler for the Roos.

http://www.theage.com.au/afl/afl-news/richmond-tigers-look-set-to-land-gold-coast-midfielder-dion-prestia-20160802-gqjewz.html (http://www.theage.com.au/afl/afl-news/richmond-tigers-look-set-to-land-gold-coast-midfielder-dion-prestia-20160802-gqjewz.html)
Why on earth would you pick the Tiges, christ

certainly have talent

Dmart Cotchin Lids Jroo Rance Prestia.

he might as well join Treloar at the pies though

Pendles Treloar Prestia Sidey Grundy
don't forget Tay Adams and Crisp
and then there's Greenwood too

Not sure Pies No1 priority should be another shortish midfielder to feed Big Trav.  :o
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: meow meow on August 03, 2016, 06:31:42 PM
Quote from: Mat0369 on August 03, 2016, 06:00:01 PM
Quote from: My Chumps on August 03, 2016, 04:36:25 PM
http://www.theage.com.au/afl/afl-news/richmond-tigers-look-set-to-land-gold-coast-midfielder-dion-prestia-20160802-gqjewz.html (http://www.theage.com.au/afl/afl-news/richmond-tigers-look-set-to-land-gold-coast-midfielder-dion-prestia-20160802-gqjewz.html)
Why on earth would you pick the Tiges, christ

Gold Coast have a couple of good academy players this year right? They will want to get as many points as possible so I can see them trading back their own pick do get as many of those mid round picks as possible that are worth more points, so I think they will want a top 5 pick and maybe a 2nd rounder as well for Prestia. Do Richmond really have the ammunition to get the deal done?

Richmond's first pick should be enough for Meatball. I think the Tigers have already traded their 2nd rounder (Yarran trade maybe).
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: meow meow on August 03, 2016, 06:43:26 PM
GC have their own first round, Melbourne's first round, their own 2nd round, Freo's 2nd round, Port Adelaide's 2nd round, Richmond's 2nd rounder. I don't think they'll struggle for points.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Mat0369 on August 03, 2016, 07:04:45 PM
Quote from: meow meow on August 03, 2016, 06:31:42 PM
Richmond's first pick should be enough for Meatball. I think the Tigers have already traded their 2nd rounder (Yarran trade maybe).

To get pick 19 which they then sent to us, Richmond traded this years 2nd round pick as part of the deal. I see GC asking for a similar package to what Collingwood gave up for Treloar. The deal that Collingwood ended up doing was two first round picks for Treloar and a late 2nd (pick 28 which was pushed into the 30's). So assuming Richmond do something similar, it would have to be a 1st and 2nd round pick at the minimum or a player of equal value.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: RaisyDaisy on August 03, 2016, 07:14:34 PM
I reckon GC will just take a 1st rounder for Prestia because he wants out, and theyll offer plenty to JOM to stay
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Nige on August 03, 2016, 08:26:59 PM
Our first rounder will be enough.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: kilbluff1985 on August 03, 2016, 10:48:03 PM
i wasnt but after seeing a comment from one of Hibberd's parents i'm confident he is staying
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: RaisyDaisy on August 03, 2016, 10:50:39 PM
Quote from: Nige on August 03, 2016, 08:26:59 PM
Our first rounder will be enough.

Strong argument on 360 tonight that Richmond shouldn't give their first rounder for him

Saying it should be used to get young talent, and concerned with Prestia's injury history etc

Will be interesting to see what eventuates
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Pkbaldy on August 03, 2016, 10:51:23 PM
They should of thought of that last year. Instead of recruiting an absolute spud.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: fanTCfool on August 03, 2016, 11:01:18 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on August 03, 2016, 10:50:39 PM
Quote from: Nige on August 03, 2016, 08:26:59 PM
Our first rounder will be enough.

Strong argument on 360 tonight that Richmond shouldn't give their first rounder for him

Saying it should be used to get young talent, and concerned with Prestia's injury history etc

Will be interesting to see what eventuates

Agreed, Richmond should trade for another first round pick, and then use either to draw Prestia.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Ziplock on August 04, 2016, 03:36:24 AM
Quote from: fanTCfool on August 03, 2016, 11:01:18 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on August 03, 2016, 10:50:39 PM
Quote from: Nige on August 03, 2016, 08:26:59 PM
Our first rounder will be enough.

Strong argument on 360 tonight that Richmond shouldn't give their first rounder for him

Saying it should be used to get young talent, and concerned with Prestia's injury history etc

Will be interesting to see what eventuates

Agreed, Richmond should trade for another first round pick, and then use either to draw Prestia.

Prestia's only 24 and at his best is an A grade mid.... I personally dont see using their first round on him as any less risky than using it on some kid.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: RaisyDaisy on August 04, 2016, 08:53:41 AM
I agree. Tigers would stuff up with pick 5/6 anyway lol better to take the guy who's proven and can give you 8 years of prem as long as he doesn't break down
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Holz on August 04, 2016, 01:06:09 PM
Quote from: Ziplock on August 04, 2016, 03:36:24 AM
Quote from: fanTCfool on August 03, 2016, 11:01:18 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on August 03, 2016, 10:50:39 PM
Quote from: Nige on August 03, 2016, 08:26:59 PM
Our first rounder will be enough.

Strong argument on 360 tonight that Richmond shouldn't give their first rounder for him

Saying it should be used to get young talent, and concerned with Prestia's injury history etc

Will be interesting to see what eventuates

Agreed, Richmond should trade for another first round pick, and then use either to draw Prestia.

Prestia's only 24 and at his best is an A grade mid.... I personally dont see using their first round on him as any less risky than using it on some kid.

Agreed they should use the first rounder on him. In no way should they give a similar deal to Treloar.

first up treloar a far superior player and secondly treloar doesnt have a injury history
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Nige on August 04, 2016, 01:47:08 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on August 04, 2016, 08:53:41 AM
I agree. Tigers would stuff up with pick 5/6 anyway lol better to take the guy who's proven and can give you 8 years of prem as long as he doesn't break down
I know you're having a bit of a laugh, but that's a bit of a shower call.

Our track record for our first pick in the draft in recent times has generally been quite good.

Deledio (04), Riewoldt (06), Cotchin (07), Martin (09), B.Ellis (11), Vlastuin (12), Lennon (13), C.Ellis (14), Rioli (15)

Vickery, Conca are debatable because they're still on the list but have been a bit underwhelming compared to the other names.

That's still a pretty good record and I have full confidence the club would get it right if they do keep our first round pick heading into the draft.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: jvalles69 on August 04, 2016, 02:15:15 PM
Quote from: Nige on August 04, 2016, 01:47:08 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on August 04, 2016, 08:53:41 AM
I agree. Tigers would stuff up with pick 5/6 anyway lol better to take the guy who's proven and can give you 8 years of prem as long as he doesn't break down
I know you're having a bit of a laugh, but that's a bit of a shower call.

Our track record for our first pick in the draft in recent times has generally been quite good.

Deledio (04), Riewoldt (06), Cotchin (07), Martin (09), B.Ellis (11), Vlastuin (12), Lennon (13), C.Ellis (14), Rioli (15)

Vickery, Conca are debatable because they're still on the list but have been a bit underwhelming compared to the other names.

That's still a pretty good record and I have full confidence the club would get it right if they do keep our first round pick heading into the draft.

Left out Tambling.  ;D
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: elephants on August 04, 2016, 02:18:45 PM
Quote from: jvalles69 on August 04, 2016, 02:15:15 PM
Quote from: Nige on August 04, 2016, 01:47:08 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on August 04, 2016, 08:53:41 AM
I agree. Tigers would stuff up with pick 5/6 anyway lol better to take the guy who's proven and can give you 8 years of prem as long as he doesn't break down
I know you're having a bit of a laugh, but that's a bit of a shower call.

Our track record for our first pick in the draft in recent times has generally been quite good.

Deledio (04), Riewoldt (06), Cotchin (07), Martin (09), B.Ellis (11), Vlastuin (12), Lennon (13), C.Ellis (14), Rioli (15)

Vickery, Conca are debatable because they're still on the list but have been a bit underwhelming compared to the other names.

That's still a pretty good record and I have full confidence the club would get it right if they do keep our first round pick heading into the draft.

Left out Tambling.  ;D

Noticed that! :P
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Nige on August 04, 2016, 03:51:11 PM
Bling's a legend, flower the haters. Didn't name because he wasn't our first picked player in 04, Lids was.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Mat0369 on August 04, 2016, 04:13:00 PM
Quote from: Holz on August 04, 2016, 01:06:09 PM
Agreed they should use the first rounder on him. In no way should they give a similar deal to Treloar.

first up treloar a far superior player and secondly treloar doesnt have a injury history

The thing is Gold Coast will be asking for something similar. They will meet in the middle ground somewhere, but the best case scenario for the Suns is a bidding war. So instead of 2 first like it was for Treloar, it will basically be a 1st and future 2nd to make it a done deal.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Purple 77 on August 12, 2016, 11:03:16 PM
Incredible news

http://www.afl.com.au/news/2016-08-12/dockers-shock-as-ballantyne-asks-for-trade-to-eagles
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: fanTCfool on August 12, 2016, 11:06:02 PM
Freo will probably get Jon Giles, that'll make it his 5th or 6th club or something.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: RaisyDaisy on August 19, 2016, 07:11:09 AM
Barrett reporting that Prestia has officially nominated Richmond as where he wants to go
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: kilbluff1985 on August 19, 2016, 09:10:40 AM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on August 19, 2016, 07:11:09 AM
Barrett reporting that Prestia has officially nominated Richmond as where he wants to go

that's interesting
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Ringo on August 19, 2016, 09:56:41 AM
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on August 19, 2016, 09:10:40 AM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on August 19, 2016, 07:11:09 AM
Barrett reporting that Prestia has officially nominated Richmond as where he wants to go

that's interesting
Common knowledge up here and talk already what trade can Suns get from Richmond.

Still no leaks on JOM though
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: kilbluff1985 on August 19, 2016, 11:16:03 AM
Tigers 1st pick for him we think?
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Ringo on August 19, 2016, 12:24:13 PM
Maybe have to work a three way trade for him. Do not think Pick 6 would cut it,
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Nige on August 19, 2016, 12:31:05 PM
They'll probably just take our first rounder for him, or we might try to get another first rounder and send it to them for Dion.

I think they'll take whatever we offer for him though and try and get a better haul in the O'Meara move.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: kilbluff1985 on August 19, 2016, 01:14:48 PM
something like this could work

Prestia + 2nd round pick

for

pick 6 + 2017 1st pick
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: RaisyDaisy on August 19, 2016, 02:00:55 PM
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on August 19, 2016, 01:14:48 PM
something like this could work

Prestia + 2nd round pick

for

pick 6 + 2017 1st pick

I don't think Prestia is worth 2 first rounders

Pick 6 + a later pick or player is more than fair
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Ringo on August 19, 2016, 03:58:44 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on August 19, 2016, 02:00:55 PM
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on August 19, 2016, 01:14:48 PM
something like this could work

Prestia + 2nd round pick

for

pick 6 + 2017 1st pick

I don't think Prestia is worth 2 first rounders

Pick 6 + a later pick or player is more than fair
Agree RD -  Pick 6 plus say 2017 Rd 2 or 3 may get it done. Suns have some talent coming through the academy so may want some picks stored for next year.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: meow meow on August 19, 2016, 04:25:48 PM
NM and Melb interested in Tyrone.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Purple 77 on August 19, 2016, 05:14:32 PM
Quote from: meow meow on August 19, 2016, 04:25:48 PM
NM and Melb interested in Tyrone.

Hmm.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: shaker on August 19, 2016, 08:07:34 PM
Tyrone to replace Jesse ? :P
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: RaisyDaisy on August 20, 2016, 08:22:03 AM
Gold Coast have made an audacious play, looking to offer 2 first rounders (top 10) for Fyfe!

Either this year or next
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: AaronKirk on August 20, 2016, 01:58:36 PM
Michael Hibberd has declared he is leaving Essendon.

Would be very surprised if he was not wearing a Dees jumper in 2016.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Purple 77 on August 20, 2016, 06:43:06 PM
Quote from: shaker on August 19, 2016, 08:07:34 PM
Tyrone to replace Jesse ? :P

If Jesse falls over and hits his head, then maybe :P

Quote from: AaronKirk on August 20, 2016, 01:58:36 PM
Michael Hibberd has declared he is leaving Essendon.

Would be very surprised if he was not wearing a Dees jumper in 2016.


Here's hoping  :-X

Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: GoLions on August 20, 2016, 06:55:53 PM
Quote from: Purple 77 on August 20, 2016, 06:43:06 PM
Quote from: AaronKirk on August 20, 2016, 01:58:36 PM
Michael Hibberd has declared he is leaving Essendon.

Would be very surprised if he was not wearing a Dees jumper in 2016.


Here's hoping  :-X
I don't think he has been wearing anyone's jumper in 2016
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: RaisyDaisy on August 20, 2016, 08:01:48 PM
Article on HS earlier today, but now Luke Darcy reckons its a certainty that Vickery is going to Hawthorn
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Jukes on August 20, 2016, 08:16:08 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on August 20, 2016, 08:01:48 PM
Article on HS earlier today, but now Luke Darcy reckons its a certainty that Vickery is going to Hawthorn

Vickers for Box Hill B&F 2017
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: iZander on August 20, 2016, 08:21:58 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on August 20, 2016, 08:01:48 PM
Article on HS earlier today, but now Luke Darcy reckons its a certainty that Vickery is going to Hawthorn

FINALLY, something not going the hawks way!
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: T Dog on August 20, 2016, 09:03:09 PM
Quote from: iZander on August 20, 2016, 08:21:58 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on August 20, 2016, 08:01:48 PM
Article on HS earlier today, but now Luke Darcy reckons its a certainty that Vickery is going to Hawthorn

FINALLY, something not going the hawks way!

Booohahahaha ..that's Gold   ;D
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: shaker on August 21, 2016, 01:46:10 PM
Vickery might be a good player in a team with skills
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Ringo on August 21, 2016, 02:48:47 PM
Quote from: shaker on August 21, 2016, 01:46:10 PM
Vickery might be a good player in a team with skills
Why Brisbane should not be interested  ;)
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: iZander on August 21, 2016, 02:54:06 PM
Quote from: shaker on August 21, 2016, 01:46:10 PM
Vickery might be a good player in a team with skills
BoxHill arent that good?

Quote from: Ringo on August 21, 2016, 02:48:47 PM
Quote from: shaker on August 21, 2016, 01:46:10 PM
Vickery might be a good player in a team with skills
Why Brisbane should not be interested  ;)
lol
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: kilbluff1985 on August 25, 2016, 05:09:26 PM
do u guys think this would be a good deal for JOM

Essendon give 2016 2nd rounder + 2017 1st rounder
GC give JOM
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: iZander on August 25, 2016, 05:23:45 PM
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on August 25, 2016, 05:09:26 PM
do u guys think this would be a good deal for JOM

Essendon give 2016 2nd rounder + 2017 1st rounder
GC give JOM
personally no, i dont think the bombers will go as well as everyone thinks they will, we were bottom 4 2015 and now all the players will be out of practice and the team will take time to gel again. JOM, well, hes a nice name to have but hes not going to do much good in rehab
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Nige on August 25, 2016, 05:25:27 PM
I mean, he can and will walk into the draft where Essendon should get him if a trade doesn't happen.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Gigantor on August 25, 2016, 08:05:35 PM
Trade can't be struck, goes into the draft, passed by Essendon, picked up by Brisbane :)
Would love to see this happen haha
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Torpedo10 on August 25, 2016, 08:15:58 PM
Quote from: Gigantor on August 25, 2016, 08:05:35 PM
Trade can't be struck, goes into the draft, passed by Essendon, picked up by Brisbane :)
Would love to see this happen haha
It won't ever happen though,  ;)
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: kilbluff1985 on August 25, 2016, 09:00:45 PM
by draft you guys mean the PSD ?
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: quinny88 on August 25, 2016, 10:03:54 PM
He hasn't played footy for 2 years. He is a gun but he is a huge risk. I think 1 first rounder will get the trade done but I certainly wouldn't be giving up pick 1 for him in Essendons situation.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: RaisyDaisy on August 26, 2016, 11:09:10 AM
I genuinely feel sorry for Gold Coast and this is a massive problem that somehow needs to be fixed

All the time, effort and money they put into these gun kids only for them to leave and provide little to no return on their investment is crippling

They end up getting picks and then those players will probably do the same thing and leave eventually too
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Ricochet on August 26, 2016, 11:13:12 AM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on August 26, 2016, 11:09:10 AM
I genuinely feel sorry for Gold Coast and this is a massive problem that somehow needs to be fixed

All the time, effort and money they put into these gun kids only for them to leave and provide little to no return on their investment is crippling

They end up getting picks and then those players will probably do the same thing and leave eventually too
That's their own fault but. Same as Brisbane. Gotta find ways to keep their kids, and its not just about $$
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: iZander on August 26, 2016, 11:14:31 AM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on August 26, 2016, 11:09:10 AM
I genuinely feel sorry for Gold Coast and this is a massive problem that somehow needs to be fixed

All the time, effort and money they put into these gun kids only for them to leave and provide little to no return on their investment is crippling

They end up getting picks and then those players will probably do the same thing and leave eventually too
O mearas leaving provides huge return, they are lucky they are going to get a top pick or a gun for someone who wont play for them
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: powersuperkents on August 26, 2016, 12:43:29 PM
Quote from: iZander on August 26, 2016, 11:14:31 AM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on August 26, 2016, 11:09:10 AM
I genuinely feel sorry for Gold Coast and this is a massive problem that somehow needs to be fixed

All the time, effort and money they put into these gun kids only for them to leave and provide little to no return on their investment is crippling

They end up getting picks and then those players will probably do the same thing and leave eventually too
O mearas leaving provides huge return, they are lucky they are going to get a top pick or a gun for someone who wont play for them
Assuming the Dons are interested, what if he lists Essendon as his preferred club?  :-\ Gold Coast would have no leverage (although I could see Essendon opting to use NAT#1 on an 18yo)
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: iZander on August 26, 2016, 12:48:51 PM
Quote from: powersuperkents on August 26, 2016, 12:43:29 PM
Quote from: iZander on August 26, 2016, 11:14:31 AM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on August 26, 2016, 11:09:10 AM
I genuinely feel sorry for Gold Coast and this is a massive problem that somehow needs to be fixed

All the time, effort and money they put into these gun kids only for them to leave and provide little to no return on their investment is crippling

They end up getting picks and then those players will probably do the same thing and leave eventually too
O mearas leaving provides huge return, they are lucky they are going to get a top pick or a gun for someone who wont play for them
Assuming the Dons are interested, what if he lists Essendon as his preferred club?  :-\ Gold Coast would have no leverage (although I could see Essendon opting to use NAT#1 on an 18yo)

Can someone clear this up for me? We wouldnt be using N1 on him? we use preseason pick 1 on him right?
So we would still get pick 1 in the national draft??
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Purple 77 on August 26, 2016, 12:53:22 PM
Quote from: iZander on August 26, 2016, 12:48:51 PM
Quote from: powersuperkents on August 26, 2016, 12:43:29 PM
Quote from: iZander on August 26, 2016, 11:14:31 AM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on August 26, 2016, 11:09:10 AM
I genuinely feel sorry for Gold Coast and this is a massive problem that somehow needs to be fixed

All the time, effort and money they put into these gun kids only for them to leave and provide little to no return on their investment is crippling

They end up getting picks and then those players will probably do the same thing and leave eventually too
O mearas leaving provides huge return, they are lucky they are going to get a top pick or a gun for someone who wont play for them
Assuming the Dons are interested, what if he lists Essendon as his preferred club?  :-\ Gold Coast would have no leverage (although I could see Essendon opting to use NAT#1 on an 18yo)

Can someone clear this up for me? We wouldnt be using N1 on him? we use preseason pick 1 on him right?
So we would still get pick 1 in the national draft??

Yarp. Unless JOM doesn't have a preference and just goes into the National draft willy-nilly and see what happens, then it'll be VERY interesting to see what pick is used on him
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: iZander on August 26, 2016, 12:54:51 PM
Quote from: Purple 77 on August 26, 2016, 12:53:22 PM
Quote from: iZander on August 26, 2016, 12:48:51 PM
Quote from: powersuperkents on August 26, 2016, 12:43:29 PM
Quote from: iZander on August 26, 2016, 11:14:31 AM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on August 26, 2016, 11:09:10 AM
I genuinely feel sorry for Gold Coast and this is a massive problem that somehow needs to be fixed

All the time, effort and money they put into these gun kids only for them to leave and provide little to no return on their investment is crippling

They end up getting picks and then those players will probably do the same thing and leave eventually too
O mearas leaving provides huge return, they are lucky they are going to get a top pick or a gun for someone who wont play for them
Assuming the Dons are interested, what if he lists Essendon as his preferred club?  :-\ Gold Coast would have no leverage (although I could see Essendon opting to use NAT#1 on an 18yo)

Can someone clear this up for me? We wouldnt be using N1 on him? we use preseason pick 1 on him right?
So we would still get pick 1 in the national draft??

Yarp. Unless JOM doesn't have a preference and just goes into the National draft willy-nilly and see what happens, then it'll be VERY interesting to see what pick is used on him
Cheers, id be very unhappy with using N1 on him, very happy if we get him in the preseason though :P
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: meow meow on August 26, 2016, 01:11:17 PM
4, 9, 21, 22, 26. Add pick 6 for Prestia too, then O'Meara. GC will be big players this trade period.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Ringo on August 26, 2016, 01:20:29 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on August 26, 2016, 11:13:12 AM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on August 26, 2016, 11:09:10 AM
I genuinely feel sorry for Gold Coast and this is a massive problem that somehow needs to be fixed

All the time, effort and money they put into these gun kids only for them to leave and provide little to no return on their investment is crippling

They end up getting picks and then those players will probably do the same thing and leave eventually too
That's their own fault but. Same as Brisbane. Gotta find ways to keep their kids, and its not just about $$
Will always be the case until the AFL allows 3 year contracts first up. We are improving retention by drafting Qlders but it has been the case that draftees know they can come to Qld for 2 years and then request a transfer back to Melbourne.  Fair enough performance on field influences some but do not think all is the clubs fault though.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: meow meow on August 26, 2016, 01:27:03 PM
You've only lost 3. You got Taylor for Yeo so that wasn't bad. Aish and Dochers for Beams and Bell. Not bad if they weren't injured. Longer and Karnezis are duds. Christensen and Basti went up. Whinge about losing players all you want but when it comes to player movement you're actually coming out on top.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: meow meow on August 26, 2016, 01:31:18 PM
Forgot about Redden. Not a kid, but another dud. No loss.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Ricochet on August 26, 2016, 01:32:52 PM
Quote from: Ringo on August 26, 2016, 01:20:29 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on August 26, 2016, 11:13:12 AM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on August 26, 2016, 11:09:10 AM
I genuinely feel sorry for Gold Coast and this is a massive problem that somehow needs to be fixed

All the time, effort and money they put into these gun kids only for them to leave and provide little to no return on their investment is crippling

They end up getting picks and then those players will probably do the same thing and leave eventually too
That's their own fault but. Same as Brisbane. Gotta find ways to keep their kids, and its not just about $$
Will always be the case until the AFL allows 3 year contracts first up. We are improving retention by drafting Qlders but it has been the case that draftees know they can come to Qld for 2 years and then request a transfer back to Melbourne.  Fair enough performance on field influences some but do not think all is the clubs fault though.
Just have to find a way though Ringo. A lot of teams have other disadvantages. WCE/Freo travel every second week and also have kids from other states. GWS/Syd are in states where AFL isn't as big. GC just have to find a way. Could GC have done more to get Jaegers knees right?? They spent a lot of money by the sounds but could they have done it better. Did the coaches need to work on their relationship with him?? Could they have helped his gf to get a good job up there? Got her a house. Anything.

And if they do lose him. They'll get fairly compensated. Just like Brisbane with the players they lost. For nearly every player that leaves, you get a decent one back.
EDIT: What meow said ^
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: shaker on August 26, 2016, 01:35:28 PM
Face it GC are screwed they needed Freo or the Lions on the bottom to to have any leverage over him , if wants to come to Melbourne the Bombers is as good as place as any if GC really play hard ball so GC either are have to take what is offered if he has a preferred club or get zip
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Boomz on August 26, 2016, 01:39:32 PM
Has been all over bomberblitz all year that we are making a big play but I'm not convinced he'll want to come to us while Mckenna is at the club...
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Ringo on August 26, 2016, 01:45:40 PM
Quote from: meow meow on August 26, 2016, 01:27:03 PM
You've only lost 3. You got Taylor for Yeo so that wasn't bad. Aish and Dochers for Beams and Bell. Not bad if they weren't injured. Longer and Karnezis are duds. Christensen and Basti went up. Whinge about losing players all you want but when it comes to player movement you're actually coming out on top.
Point taken MM. Have to look at total picture don't we as to who we have gained as well. Injuries are hurting as well. Beams has only played 8 games for us. Bell and Bundy missing large chunks of the season does not help.

Awaiting with baited breath to see where Josh Green wants to go as he looks like the only one of current playing list to go. Wonder if anything changes when final decision made on Leppa next week.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: shaker on August 26, 2016, 01:46:15 PM
Maybe the Tiges could snag Prestia and O'Meara pick 6 plus Ellis and a future pick  :P
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Ringo on August 26, 2016, 02:05:50 PM
Quote from: shaker on August 26, 2016, 01:35:28 PM
Face it GC are screwed they needed Freo or the Lions on the bottom to to have any leverage over him , if wants to come to Melbourne the Bombers is as good as place as any if GC really play hard ball so GC either are have to take what is offered if he has a preferred club or get zip
This is till a possibility that Brisbane finish last Brisbane only have a 3% better average than Bombers.  Bombers play Carlton and will want to win this one and Lions play Saints who with a huge may scrape into 8. So every possibility Brisbane may finish last although we will be trying to win against Saints and go above Freo.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: shaker on August 26, 2016, 02:33:02 PM
Quote from: Ringo on August 26, 2016, 02:05:50 PM
Quote from: shaker on August 26, 2016, 01:35:28 PM
Face it GC are screwed they needed Freo or the Lions on the bottom to to have any leverage over him , if wants to come to Melbourne the Bombers is as good as place as any if GC really play hard ball so GC either are have to take what is offered if he has a preferred club or get zip
This is till a possibility that Brisbane finish last Brisbane only have a 3% better average than Bombers.  Bombers play Carlton and will want to win this one and Lions play Saints who with a huge may scrape into 8. So every possibility Brisbane may finish last although we will be trying to win against Saints and go above Freo.

Yes still a chance but a very slim one you would think the Blues would want to finish on a high losing to the Bombers would not be a great way to finish the season , I bet O'Meara is praying the Blues win  :D
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Pkbaldy on August 26, 2016, 03:24:49 PM
Saints apparently leading the race for Jack Steele.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Ricochet on August 26, 2016, 03:25:32 PM
and Mayne to North also apparently basically done
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: BoredSaint on August 26, 2016, 03:47:33 PM
so saints want steele and omeara... where are we gonna the draft picks to these boys in from?
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Pkbaldy on August 26, 2016, 03:51:18 PM
Quote from: BoredSaint on August 26, 2016, 03:47:33 PM
so saints want steele and omeara... where are we gonna the draft picks to these boys in from?

Don't see us getting both of them tbh. I say we save our big bucks, for end of 2017 and have a big crack at a gun key defender or Fyfe haha
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Nige on August 26, 2016, 04:05:48 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on August 26, 2016, 03:25:32 PM
and Mayne to North also apparently basically done
I still find this amusing.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Ricochet on August 26, 2016, 04:09:43 PM
Quote from: Nige on August 26, 2016, 04:05:48 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on August 26, 2016, 03:25:32 PM
and Mayne to North also apparently basically done
I still find this amusing.
I find it amusing also, but only because Mayne is actually a good player in a good side, and North are now rebuilding.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Bill Manspeaker on August 26, 2016, 04:10:46 PM
Quote from: Pkbaldy on August 26, 2016, 03:51:18 PM
Quote from: BoredSaint on August 26, 2016, 03:47:33 PM
so saints want steele and omeara... where are we gonna the draft picks to these boys in from?

Don't see us getting both of them tbh. I say we save our big bucks, for end of 2017 and have a big crack at a gun key defender or Fyfe haha
yep I'd rather us just go after Steele and next year onwards look for a star players
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Nige on August 26, 2016, 04:12:58 PM
Apparently the Cats are willing to trade Motlop if there are decent offers for him.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: T Dog on August 26, 2016, 07:01:29 PM
Anyone heard anything about Jake Stringer ? Heard the end of some radio chat on SEN early this arvo. Something about him leaving, that's why he is not named again? Was linked with another player but I missed the start of the conversation.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: meow meow on August 26, 2016, 07:06:02 PM
He's probably not playing because his form has been shower. 2 years remaining on his contact so he'll do well to be leaving.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: T Dog on August 26, 2016, 07:11:07 PM
Quote from: meow meow on August 26, 2016, 07:06:02 PM
He's probably not playing because his form has been shower. 2 years remaining on his contact so he'll do well to be leaving.

Makes sense..what really caught my attention was the no mention of the "package" tag. Sounded a little serious.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Pkbaldy on August 26, 2016, 07:35:33 PM
Yeah don't really see Stringer leaving at all. Just in a giant slump at the moment. Just going off his Instagram, Biggs and JJ are like his best mates.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: kilbluff1985 on August 27, 2016, 12:30:46 AM
http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/david-swallows-exit-could-leave-gold-coast-suns-in-death-spiral-says-gerard-healy/news-story/4970c3019d5944901b885714843a344d
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: powersuperkents on August 27, 2016, 12:41:18 AM
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on August 27, 2016, 12:30:46 AM
http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/david-swallows-exit-could-leave-gold-coast-suns-in-death-spiral-says-gerard-healy/news-story/4970c3019d5944901b885714843a344d
Holy Shower

Forget the Lions 'homesick 5'.

This WOULD BE A DISATER if it eventuated...

He's only said he'll be open to a trade, rather than 'requesting a trade' so I don't think they should worry too much about Swallow leaving.

One thing is for certain... TOUK MILLER is going to kill it  ;D
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: strikes91 on August 27, 2016, 02:00:59 PM
Quote from: powersuperkents on August 27, 2016, 12:41:18 AM
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on August 27, 2016, 12:30:46 AM
http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/david-swallows-exit-could-leave-gold-coast-suns-in-death-spiral-says-gerard-healy/news-story/4970c3019d5944901b885714843a344d
Holy Shower

Forget the Lions 'homesick 5'.

This WOULD BE A DISATER if it eventuated...

He's only said he'll be open to a trade, rather than 'requesting a trade' so I don't think they should worry too much about Swallow leaving.

One thing is for certain... TOUK MILLER is going to kill it  ;D

AFL QLD is booming
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: powersuperkents on August 27, 2016, 04:28:40 PM
Quote from: strikes91 on August 27, 2016, 02:00:59 PM
Quote from: powersuperkents on August 27, 2016, 12:41:18 AM
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on August 27, 2016, 12:30:46 AM
http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/david-swallows-exit-could-leave-gold-coast-suns-in-death-spiral-says-gerard-healy/news-story/4970c3019d5944901b885714843a344d
Holy Shower

Forget the Lions 'homesick 5'.

This WOULD BE A DISATER if it eventuated...

He's only said he'll be open to a trade, rather than 'requesting a trade' so I don't think they should worry too much about Swallow leaving.

One thing is for certain... TOUK MILLER is going to kill it  ;D

AFL QLD is booming
There's certainly a lot of young talent coming through the academies, perhaps not the same quantity as that of Victoria & WA, however, I would say they are on par with NSW, Tas, & SA (the latter of which has been quite disappointing in the last two drafts - hence, Port & the Crows preference for interstate, predominately Victorian, players. That being said the best of SA's draft talent is usually snatched up by Victorian sides)
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Ricochet on August 30, 2016, 01:37:24 PM
Annnnnd here come the delistings:

CAR: Cameron Wood, Jayden Foster and Matthew Dick.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Gigantor on August 30, 2016, 01:53:39 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on August 30, 2016, 01:37:24 PM
Annnnnd here come the delistings:

CAR: Cameron Wood, Jayden Foster and Matthew Dick.

Lol didn't even realise Wood was still on the list  ;D
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: fanTCfool on August 30, 2016, 07:09:51 PM
Quote from: Gigantor on August 30, 2016, 01:53:39 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on August 30, 2016, 01:37:24 PM
Annnnnd here come the delistings:

CAR: Cameron Wood, Jayden Foster and Matthew Dick.

Lol didn't even realise Wood was still on the list  ;D

Has been half-decent coverage in the past when Kreuz has gone down, but with younger Gorringe and Phillips arriving over the last off-season he is no longer required. The right decision was made, but he hasn't really been a waste of space on the list until now.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: RaisyDaisy on August 31, 2016, 10:00:07 AM
John Butcher, Kane Mitchell and Sam Colquhoun delisted

Irishman Sean Hurley from Freo also sent packing
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Nige on August 31, 2016, 03:45:08 PM
Ben Lennon has requested a trade.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Bill Manspeaker on August 31, 2016, 03:50:01 PM
Quote from: Nige on August 31, 2016, 03:45:08 PM
Ben Lennon has requested a trade.
that's strange. he signed on for 2 years in October last year. seriously what is a contract these days
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: powersuperkents on August 31, 2016, 04:43:01 PM
Quote from: Nige on August 31, 2016, 03:45:08 PM
Ben Lennon has requested a trade.
No big loss for Richmond imo (beside the wasted pick 12)

If they can get an earlier 2nd rounder for him, I would consider Richmond the winners of the trade

I think he'll be another Jimmy T
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: elephants on August 31, 2016, 04:46:09 PM
I rate Lennon, more as a forward than a midfielder. Reckon he has some real quality if given the chance. I think he'll go somewhere else and tear it up tbh.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Nige on August 31, 2016, 04:47:45 PM
Quote from: Bill Manspeaker on August 31, 2016, 03:50:01 PM
Quote from: Nige on August 31, 2016, 03:45:08 PM
Ben Lennon has requested a trade.
that's strange. he signed on for 2 years in October last year. seriously what is a contract these days
Yeah, he's doging out because he only played 3 senior games this year.

Part of that is because he was injured for half the games this season (concussion, shoulder, ankle).

Should realise that he's absolutely a lock to play plenty more games in 2017.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: elephants on August 31, 2016, 04:49:34 PM
Quote from: elephants on August 31, 2016, 04:46:09 PM
I rate Lennon, more as a forward than a midfielder. Reckon he has some real quality if given the chance. I think he'll go somewhere else and tear it up tbh.

Despite this, I can't help but laugh and who went the pick directly after him... Patrick Cripps.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Ricochet on August 31, 2016, 04:49:56 PM
Quote from: Nige on August 31, 2016, 04:47:45 PM
Quote from: Bill Manspeaker on August 31, 2016, 03:50:01 PM
Quote from: Nige on August 31, 2016, 03:45:08 PM
Ben Lennon has requested a trade.
that's strange. he signed on for 2 years in October last year. seriously what is a contract these days
Yeah, he's doging out because he only played 3 senior games this year.

Part of that is because he was injured for half the games this season (concussion, shoulder, ankle).

Should realise that he's absolutely a lock to play plenty more games in 2017.
May see the inclusion of Prestia = less chance of him playing midfield maybe
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Nige on August 31, 2016, 04:54:51 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on August 31, 2016, 04:49:56 PM
May see the inclusion of Prestia = less chance of him playing midfield maybe
I mean, as ele's said, he's pretty good as a forward and would rotate through a bit plus blokes like Vlastuin somehow can't even get permanent midfield minutes for god knows why.

But yeah, whatever. It's all about Oleg these days anyway.  8)

Quote from: elephants on August 31, 2016, 04:49:34 PM
Despite this, I can't help but laugh and who went the pick directly after him... Patrick Cripps.
Pretty sure the club was 100% committed to Lennon anyway.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: elephants on August 31, 2016, 04:56:51 PM
Quote from: Nige on August 31, 2016, 04:54:51 PM
Quote from: elephants on August 31, 2016, 04:49:34 PM
Despite this, I can't help but laugh and who went the pick directly after him... Patrick Cripps.
Pretty sure the club was 100% committed to Lennon anyway.

Yep, as the Eagles were with Sheed. In fact I believe there was some annoyance among Blues fans that they didn't snare a key forward, though in hindsight its lucky they didnt! Cam McCarthy wouldn't be anywhere near as helpful as Patty Cripps right now :p
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Mat0369 on August 31, 2016, 06:25:28 PM
Quote from: Nige on August 31, 2016, 04:47:45 PM
Yeah, he's doging out because he only played 3 senior games this year.

Part of that is because he was injured for half the games this season (concussion, shoulder, ankle).

Should realise that he's absolutely a lock to play plenty more games in 2017.

This is one thing I don't like, he has played 3 seasons of football at a club that isn't exactly looking that great on form right now. If he has good form you would expect him to play based on Richmond's position. How can you request a trade due to a lack of senior games? Does he expect them to just be given to him and if they aren't he is just going to bail to a crappier team that will?
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: RaisyDaisy on August 31, 2016, 06:27:05 PM
BT must be shattered

ALIPATE has retired
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: RaisyDaisy on August 31, 2016, 06:28:55 PM
McBean and Marcon delisted by Tiges
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: fanTCfool on August 31, 2016, 10:26:02 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on August 31, 2016, 04:49:56 PM
Quote from: Nige on August 31, 2016, 04:47:45 PM
Quote from: Bill Manspeaker on August 31, 2016, 03:50:01 PM
Quote from: Nige on August 31, 2016, 03:45:08 PM
Ben Lennon has requested a trade.
that's strange. he signed on for 2 years in October last year. seriously what is a contract these days
Yeah, he's doging out because he only played 3 senior games this year.

Part of that is because he was injured for half the games this season (concussion, shoulder, ankle).

Should realise that he's absolutely a lock to play plenty more games in 2017.
May see the inclusion of Prestia = less chance of him playing midfield maybe

Who would pick up Lennon if he can only get 3 games for Richmond?
Marcon and McBean have more value, especially Marcon showed promise.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Big Mac on September 01, 2016, 12:16:49 AM
1      Played in VFL trial against Northern Blues.   
2      Played in VFL trial against Essendon.   
3   Adel   Missed a shot for goal but spent a lot of time behind the ball in the back half.
4   WCE   Barely got into the contest.   
5   VFL   Had nine touches in a half then rested as a senior emergency.   
6      Concussion.   
7   VFL   Copped a head knock in first half and sat out after main break.   
8      Concussion.   
9      Concussion.   
10      Concussion.   
11      Shoulder.   
12      Shoulder.   
13      Shoulder.   
14      Shoulder.   
15   VFL   Did some handy things but looked a bit off the pace after some time out.   
16   VFL   Close to senior recall. Won a lot of his own ball (15 contested possessions).   
17      Bye.   
18   VFL   Hurt ankle in early exchanges and played no further part.   
19      Ankle.   
20   VFL   Best game of the season with 23 touches, 12 marks, three goals. Needs to play.   
21   Geel   One goal but generally quiet across half forward.   
22   VFL   Kicked a smart snapped goal but that was about it. Injured?   
23   VFL   Kicked two goals and was handy in attack but not a massive game.

Judging from this doesn't really look like he can complain about lack of game time
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Nige on September 01, 2016, 05:33:40 PM
Quote from: Big  Mac on September 01, 2016, 12:16:49 AM
1      Played in VFL trial against Northern Blues.   
2      Played in VFL trial against Essendon.   
3   Adel   Missed a shot for goal but spent a lot of time behind the ball in the back half.
4   WCE   Barely got into the contest.   
5   VFL   Had nine touches in a half then rested as a senior emergency.   
6      Concussion.   
7   VFL   Copped a head knock in first half and sat out after main break.   
8      Concussion.   
9      Concussion.   
10      Concussion.   
11      Shoulder.   
12      Shoulder.   
13      Shoulder.   
14      Shoulder.   
15   VFL   Did some handy things but looked a bit off the pace after some time out.   
16   VFL   Close to senior recall. Won a lot of his own ball (15 contested possessions).   
17      Bye.   
18   VFL   Hurt ankle in early exchanges and played no further part.   
19      Ankle.   
20   VFL   Best game of the season with 23 touches, 12 marks, three goals. Needs to play.   
21   Geel   One goal but generally quiet across half forward.   
22   VFL   Kicked a smart snapped goal but that was about it. Injured?   
23   VFL   Kicked two goals and was handy in attack but not a massive game.

Judging from this doesn't really look like he can complain about lack of game time
Exactly why I'm filthy, he's just being a little dog I reckon. The fact he wanted out last year too kinda adds to it.

As I've said, still a pretty good chance he gets plenty of games next season. Should just see out his contract and if he's still not getting games, then he have a whinge. But whatever, contracts mean nothing anymore and if his head and heart aren't at the club, he shouldn't be either.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Ricochet on September 01, 2016, 05:42:04 PM
Caleb Marchbank has requested a trade
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: RaisyDaisy on September 01, 2016, 07:22:00 PM
Gold Coast have delisted Tape, Stanley, Russell and Keogh

Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: _wato on September 01, 2016, 07:32:42 PM
Really hope the pies go after Marchbank

We really need a player of his height and caliber down back
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: meow meow on September 01, 2016, 08:52:32 PM
Matt Boyd hasn't been offered a contract yet, because the Dogs are trying to replace him with Brett Deledio.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: RaisyDaisy on September 01, 2016, 09:01:27 PM
Herald Sun reporting that up to 6 Giants could be on the move

Carlton the early front runner for Marchbank

Tomlinson and Steele good chances to move, while the futures of Hoskin-Elliott and Stewart are unclear

Collingwood has emerged as a possible suitor for Tomlinson, and the Pies have already been looking at Hoskin

St Kilda heads a long list trying to lure Steele
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: iZander on September 01, 2016, 09:10:48 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on September 01, 2016, 09:01:27 PM
Herald Sun reporting that up to 6 Giants could be on the move

Carlton the early front runner for Marchbank

Tomlinson and Steele good chances to move, while the futures of Hoskin-Elliott and Stewart are unclear

Collingwood has emerged as a possible suitor for Tomlinson, and the Pies have already been looking at Hoskin

St Kilda heads a long list trying to lure Steele
You know who the sixth is? or did i miss count?

Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Mat0369 on September 01, 2016, 09:22:29 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on September 01, 2016, 05:42:04 PM
Caleb Marchbank has requested a trade to Carlton

Fixed. He and Tomlinson will be in Navy Blue next year.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: meow meow on September 01, 2016, 09:23:32 PM
^ Been a bit of talk about Ahern wanting to come back to Vic.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: meow meow on September 01, 2016, 09:25:47 PM
Quote from: meow meow on July 14, 2016, 07:02:41 PM
Carlton looking to do another bulk deal with GWS to get Tomlinson, Hoskin-Elliott and Ahern.

Marchbank looking to return to Vic, Saints and Demons (TMac replacement) keen.

Saints still keen, it's why Fisher and Dempster haven't been signed yet. Dempster should sign regardless though.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: kilbluff1985 on September 01, 2016, 09:38:05 PM
http://www.adelaidenow.com.au/sport/afl/teams/port-adelaide/port-adelaide-tells-hamish-hartlett-he-could-be-traded/news-story/f49ae3f2f4d40feb09662bd5e7566f99
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: meow meow on September 01, 2016, 10:00:13 PM
He signed a 6 year contract last season now they're thinking of trading him? Haha what idiots.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: fanTCfool on September 01, 2016, 10:03:37 PM
Surely just a kick up the arse?
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: TomK on September 01, 2016, 11:04:44 PM
Wouldn't mind if we had a go at him tbh
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: elephants on September 01, 2016, 11:06:09 PM
Quote from: TomK on September 01, 2016, 11:04:44 PM
Wouldn't mind if we had a go at him tbh

I quite like him too but we're no chance cause he's Vic scum
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: nrich102 on September 01, 2016, 11:25:31 PM
Anyone know what Cam McCarthy's up to these days?
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Mat0369 on September 01, 2016, 11:28:12 PM
Quote from: elephants on September 01, 2016, 11:06:09 PM
I quite like him too but we're no chance cause he's Vic scum

He's from SA.

Cloke also saying he doesn't want to leave Vic and play in a winning team. So that rules Richmond out according to him with the Dogs the preferred team. Judd called it early this year.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: elephants on September 01, 2016, 11:29:36 PM
Quote from: nrich102 on September 01, 2016, 11:25:31 PM
Anyone know what Cam McCarthy's up to these days?

Has been in talks with Freo but from what Ive heard this mental stuff is bigger than we thought.

Quote from: Mat0369 on September 01, 2016, 11:28:12 PM
Quote from: elephants on September 01, 2016, 11:06:09 PM
I quite like him too but we're no chance cause he's Vic scum

He's from SA.

Cloke also saying he doesn't want to leave Vic and play in a winning team. So that rules Richmond out according to him with the Dogs the preferred team. Judd called it early this year.

Ah my bad
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: RaisyDaisy on September 01, 2016, 11:29:37 PM
Quote from: nrich102 on September 01, 2016, 11:25:31 PM
Anyone know what Cam McCarthy's up to these days?

Read earlier today that still looking to move to Freo come seasons end
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: nrich102 on September 01, 2016, 11:40:57 PM
Cheers guys, Hope it all works out for him  :)
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: powersuperkents on September 02, 2016, 12:14:13 PM
Port shouldn't have signed Hartlett for such a long time period...

Ziebell and a few other players have been signed on comparable deals and it hasn't affect their performances...

However, Hartlett has lazed off ever since he received that job security - Richmond and Nth Melbourne were waiting for him to become a free agent with offers of approx. $750-850k per season rumoured. If he performed like he did this season, assuming Port didn't extend, those offers would have certainly been reduced by a fair extent. 

I don't think any club would consider it worth their time to trade for him, he's seriously disappointed everyone this season, and Port have all the leverage. Port will certainly only release him for a lopsided deal (unless they are paying him way too much and it's interfering with the salary cap), so I think most clubs would justifiably perceive it to be a waste of time. Better for Port to hold onto him for another year and seeing if he can recapture that 2014-15 form (because this year was a huge step back for him - in fact, his worst if you exclude his first two seasons).

He's usually one of my favourites, but this season he was probably the bottom of the list (another issue could be the fact Hinkley was playing him in half-back rather than the midfield)
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: shaker on September 02, 2016, 01:10:46 PM
Quote from: powersuperkents on September 02, 2016, 12:14:13 PM
Port shouldn't have signed Hartlett for such a long time period...

Ziebell and a few other players have been signed on comparable deals and it hasn't affect their performances...

However, Hartlett has lazed off ever since he received that job security - Richmond and Nth Melbourne were waiting for him to become a free agent with offers of approx. $750-850k per season rumoured. If he performed like he did this season, assuming Port didn't extend, those offers would have certainly been reduced by a fair extent. 

I don't think any club would consider it worth their time to trade for him, he's seriously disappointed everyone this season, and Port have all the leverage. Port will certainly only release him for a lopsided deal (unless they are paying him way too much and it's interfering with the salary cap), so I think most clubs would justifiably perceive it to be a waste of time. Better for Port to hold onto him for another year and seeing if he can recapture that 2014-15 form (because this year was a huge step back for him - in fact, his worst if you exclude his first two seasons).

He's usually one of my favourites, but this season he was probably the bottom of the list (another issue could be the fact Hinkley was playing him in half-back rather than the midfield)

How much was his contract worth ? pretty sure clubs would not want to be paying him to much after this season
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: powersuperkents on September 02, 2016, 02:51:39 PM
Quote from: shaker on September 02, 2016, 01:10:46 PM
Quote from: powersuperkents on September 02, 2016, 12:14:13 PM
Port shouldn't have signed Hartlett for such a long time period...

Ziebell and a few other players have been signed on comparable deals and it hasn't affect their performances...

However, Hartlett has lazed off ever since he received that job security - Richmond and Nth Melbourne were waiting for him to become a free agent with offers of approx. $750-850k per season rumoured. If he performed like he did this season, assuming Port didn't extend, those offers would have certainly been reduced by a fair extent. 

I don't think any club would consider it worth their time to trade for him, he's seriously disappointed everyone this season, and Port have all the leverage. Port will certainly only release him for a lopsided deal (unless they are paying him way too much and it's interfering with the salary cap), so I think most clubs would justifiably perceive it to be a waste of time. Better for Port to hold onto him for another year and seeing if he can recapture that 2014-15 form (because this year was a huge step back for him - in fact, his worst if you exclude his first two seasons).

He's usually one of my favourites, but this season he was probably the bottom of the list (another issue could be the fact Hinkley was playing him in half-back rather than the midfield)

How much was his contract worth ? pretty sure clubs would not want to be paying him to much after this season
Unfortunately, unlike American sports, it's not publicly available because PAFC decided not to publish it (no problem publishing Monfries, Schulz, Butcher, & Dixon's salaries though...). I suspect that it was a big offer over a 5 year time frame so the Power could 'back-end' the payments whenever necessary. I suspect that this may be the reason why he's being offered as 'trade-bait'. He's a good player at his best, but I think the Power regret making the mistake that Nth Melbourne would've made with their proposed mega-offer (Richmond would have opted for Prestia instead if HH hypothetically wasn't given his contract extension).

By the sounds of it, Port wants to trade him for one of the Suns top-ten picks. Hinkley's obviously stuck in a tough position because we lack the depth to be a contender for the flag but our list has also passed a point in which rebuilding would be a huge, and inconvenient, step backwards (we are truly in limbo). Hartlett still think we are a premiership contender, however, I don't think any of the fans think that's the case. I want the best for the club, however, I don't think our list is even finals worthy at this point. We have culled the right players so far, and I think Dixon and Polec were solid recruitments, but it's time we opted for a first rounder in the draft. I have serious doubts over whether 2 first rounders for one of our required mids is a worthy prospect which makes it seem like there has to be a problem with retaining him. 
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: T Dog on September 02, 2016, 02:54:03 PM
Quote from: elephants on September 01, 2016, 11:29:36 PM
Quote from: nrich102 on September 01, 2016, 11:25:31 PM
Anyone know what Cam McCarthy's up to these days?

Has been in talks with Freo but from what Ive heard this mental stuff is bigger than we thought.

Quote from: Mat0369 on September 01, 2016, 11:28:12 PM
Quote from: elephants on September 01, 2016, 11:06:09 PM
I quite like him too but we're no chance cause he's Vic scum

He's from SA.

Cloke also saying he doesn't want to leave Vic and play in a winning team. So that rules Richmond out according to him with the Dogs the preferred team. Judd called it early this year.

Ah my bad

I was hoping for a straight swap...Trav for Jroo   >:(
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: iZander on September 02, 2016, 03:01:40 PM
is cloke really in the position to say he wants to play in a winning team? Maybe hes looking at clubs with strong VFL sides?
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Ricochet on September 02, 2016, 03:04:53 PM
Tanner Smith has been delisted by Freo
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: powersuperkents on September 02, 2016, 03:07:03 PM
Quote from: iZander on September 02, 2016, 03:01:40 PM
is cloke really in the position to say he wants to play in a winning team? Maybe hes looking at clubs with strong VFL sides?
+1

Reading that made me laugh hahahaha

The problem hasn't been a lack of supply, rather him squandering every opportunity he's been given
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: meow meow on September 02, 2016, 03:07:32 PM
You'll get a 6'3" Asian guy for Cloke, it's already a done deal.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: T Dog on September 02, 2016, 03:09:34 PM
Quote from: meow meow on September 02, 2016, 03:07:32 PM
You'll get a 6'3" Asian guy for Cloke, it's already a done deal.

Aw C'mon..your jonging me....quit jonging around, this is serious   :'(
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Ricochet on September 02, 2016, 03:10:16 PM
Quote from: powersuperkents on September 02, 2016, 03:07:03 PM
The problem hasn't been a lack of supply, rather him squandering every opportunity he's been given
I dunno about that. Pies entries inside 50 this year have been putrid in games I've seen
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: powersuperkents on September 02, 2016, 03:10:52 PM
Quote from: T Dog on September 02, 2016, 03:09:34 PM
Quote from: meow meow on September 02, 2016, 03:07:32 PM
You'll get a 6'3" Asian guy for Cloke, it's already a done deal.

Aw C'mon..your jonging me....quite jonging around, this is serious   :'(
What's wrong with Jong?

Besides Treloar, Adams, and Pendlebury he'll be your best player  :P
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: iZander on September 02, 2016, 03:14:09 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on September 02, 2016, 03:10:16 PM
Quote from: powersuperkents on September 02, 2016, 03:07:03 PM
The problem hasn't been a lack of supply, rather him squandering every opportunity he's been given
I dunno about that. Pies entries inside 50 this year have been putrid in games I've seen
doesnt matter too much, just gotta compare with with the other key forwards getting the same supply...and hes still been very poor :P
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: meow meow on September 02, 2016, 03:19:05 PM
Cloke's only problem is inside his head. Bevo and Bob will fix him and he'll kick 50+ goals.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Ricochet on September 02, 2016, 03:23:54 PM
Conca also on the way out at Richmond.

http://www.afl.com.au/news/2016-09-02/tigers-to-trade-former-no6-pick-reece-conca?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: meow meow on September 02, 2016, 03:27:12 PM
Should be headed to the wafl, dude has got nothing and never has shown anything, not even before he was drafted. The definition of mediocre.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Nige on September 02, 2016, 04:17:31 PM
Means we're gonna lose three former first round draft picks in Vickery, Conca and Lennon.

I think Vickery's the only one who'll benefit from a fresh start honestly.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: shaker on September 02, 2016, 04:24:26 PM
Quote from: Nige on September 02, 2016, 04:17:31 PM
Means we're gonna lose three former first round draft picks in Vickery, Conca and Lennon.

I think Vickery's the only one who'll benefit from a fresh start honestly.

We did not get much out of those 3 first rounders wonder what we will get back on our investment ?
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: powersuperkents on September 02, 2016, 05:32:11 PM
Quote from: Nige on September 02, 2016, 04:17:31 PM
Means we're gonna lose three former first round draft picks in Vickery, Conca and Lennon.

I think Vickery's the only one who'll benefit from a fresh start honestly.
+1

Always thought he has been unfairly dismissed by supporters of the other 17 clubs

If he goes to the Hawks (where I think he will be going), I think he will kill it as a key forward - he's always been mobile, and when in form he's a dead-eye set shot (can also nail goals in-play which is a solid quality in a key forward).

I honestly think that Jroos dominance has been both a blessing and a curse for the Tiges. He's easily one of the elite key forwards in the game, however, he overshadows any other tall forward supporting him.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: meow meow on September 02, 2016, 05:40:40 PM
Hartlett to GC
Prestia to Richmond
Pick 6 to Port
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: TomK on September 02, 2016, 05:44:47 PM
Quote from: meow meow on September 02, 2016, 05:40:40 PM
Hartlett to GC
Prestia to Richmond
Pick 6 to Port
Suns get reamed and Port run away like bandits in that trade
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: RaisyDaisy on September 02, 2016, 06:00:19 PM
Quote from: meow meow on September 02, 2016, 05:40:40 PM
Hartlett to GC
Prestia to Richmond
Pick 6 to Port

Yeah that's what Rucci is reporting

No chance Hartlett agrees to that
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Nige on September 02, 2016, 06:10:40 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on September 02, 2016, 06:00:19 PM
Quote from: meow meow on September 02, 2016, 05:40:40 PM
Hartlett to GC
Prestia to Richmond
Pick 6 to Port

Yeah that's what Rucci is reporting

No chance Hartlett agrees to that
His manager Michael Doughty reckons he is 'open minded' though so who knows!
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: strikes91 on September 02, 2016, 07:29:37 PM
Hartlett not worth pick 6.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Nige on September 02, 2016, 07:40:27 PM
Pies keen on Tomlinson and WHE.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: powersuperkents on September 02, 2016, 07:54:10 PM
Quote from: TomK on September 02, 2016, 05:44:47 PM
Quote from: meow meow on September 02, 2016, 05:40:40 PM
Hartlett to GC
Prestia to Richmond
Pick 6 to Port
Suns get reamed and Port run away like bandits in that trade
I wouldn't necessarily say that...

If Hartlett stays injury free (which would be their big concern imo given his history) he can be a very solid contested midfielder.

They need a developed player and if Hartlett didn't have the injury doubts I would say it's a perfect trade given each club's current predicament.

If pick 6 was the Suns only pick in the first round (or the top 10 for that matter), I would certainly have reservations about it if I were a Suns fan. But the last thing they want is more draft picks (and the AFL has even pushed them to target players like Hartlett). Basically, due to their abundance of picks, pick 6 to the Suns in this draft crop would perceived at a significantly lower value than pick 6 last season (in which the Suns only had two picks in the first round). I'm not saying the value on it's face is different, just emphasizing that the Suns probably consider it less valuable considering the amount of first rounders they currently have/will receive
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: powersuperkents on September 02, 2016, 07:56:36 PM
I think Hartlett has been singled out because of his history with injuries and the undisclosed salary of his contract extension...

It's safe to say that Hinkley is trying something like the Eagles in 2014 - acquiring an influx of draftees (we are in a similar position as well - i.e. 2011-12 for the Eagles, 2013-14 for the Power, something appeared to be working before collapse - 2013-14 for Eagles, 2015-16 for the Power - we are only realising now that we don't have the cattle to push into the finals at this point)
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: TomK on September 03, 2016, 12:10:18 AM
Channel 7 tonight reporting that Mitch Grigg might be off to Carlton and Ricky Henderson and Andy Otten could be moving for better opportunities.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: LF on September 03, 2016, 12:11:30 AM
Quote from: TomK on September 03, 2016, 12:10:18 AM
Channel 7 tonight reporting that Mitch Grigg might be off to Carlton and Ricky Henderson and Andy Otten could be moving for better opportunities.

Oh yesssss go get game at the Blues Griggy
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: fanTCfool on September 03, 2016, 12:24:52 AM
That'd be very nice, I hear Mitch Grigg is a gun!
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: elephants on September 03, 2016, 12:43:13 AM
Yeah Grigg is class, I rate Hendo too.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Jay on September 03, 2016, 01:42:00 AM
Quote from: TomK on September 03, 2016, 12:10:18 AM
Channel 7 tonight reporting that Mitch Grigg might be off to Carlton and Ricky Henderson and Andy Otten could be moving for better opportunities.
Don't blame him! We've never given him a proper crack at it.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Ringo on September 03, 2016, 10:37:12 AM
Quote from: Jay on September 03, 2016, 01:42:00 AM
Quote from: TomK on September 03, 2016, 12:10:18 AM
Channel 7 tonight reporting that Mitch Grigg might be off to Carlton and Ricky Henderson and Andy Otten could be moving for better opportunities.
Don't blame him! We've never given him a proper crack at it.
Will he still be one of your favs Jay if he moves?  ;)
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: RaisyDaisy on September 03, 2016, 12:55:50 PM
Gwilt delisted
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Nige on September 05, 2016, 09:44:24 AM
Tomlinson staying a Giant.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: iZander on September 05, 2016, 10:16:23 AM
Quote from: Nige on September 05, 2016, 09:44:24 AM
Tomlinson staying a Giant.
Strange choice :P
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: kilbluff1985 on September 05, 2016, 12:56:15 PM
Quote from: iZander on September 05, 2016, 10:16:23 AM
Quote from: Nige on September 05, 2016, 09:44:24 AM
Tomlinson staying a Giant.
Strange choice :P

unless Patton is going
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: iZander on September 05, 2016, 12:57:33 PM
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on September 05, 2016, 12:56:15 PM
Quote from: iZander on September 05, 2016, 10:16:23 AM
Quote from: Nige on September 05, 2016, 09:44:24 AM
Tomlinson staying a Giant.
Strange choice :P

unless Patton is going
true, or lobby
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: elephants on September 05, 2016, 01:18:16 PM
Quote from: iZander on September 05, 2016, 12:57:33 PM
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on September 05, 2016, 12:56:15 PM
Quote from: iZander on September 05, 2016, 10:16:23 AM
Quote from: Nige on September 05, 2016, 09:44:24 AM
Tomlinson staying a Giant.
Strange choice :P

unless Patton is going
true, or lobby

I'd say Lobb is as good as gone. Still thought Tomlinson would be able to make a better fist of things at another club. Must have received some assurances from GWS.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: iZander on September 05, 2016, 01:36:53 PM
Quote from: elephants on September 05, 2016, 01:18:16 PM
Quote from: iZander on September 05, 2016, 12:57:33 PM
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on September 05, 2016, 12:56:15 PM
Quote from: iZander on September 05, 2016, 10:16:23 AM
Quote from: Nige on September 05, 2016, 09:44:24 AM
Tomlinson staying a Giant.
Strange choice :P

unless Patton is going
true, or lobby

I'd say Lobb is as good as gone. Still thought Tomlinson would be able to make a better fist of things at another club. Must have received some assurances from GWS.
or maybe hes chasing a premiership, wouldve thought youd put your own career ahead of that as i agree with the above!
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Ringo on September 05, 2016, 03:00:04 PM
No secret. Josh Green open to a trade.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: RaisyDaisy on September 05, 2016, 03:02:08 PM
Quote from: Ringo on September 05, 2016, 03:00:04 PM
No secret. Josh Green open to a trade.

Should be thankful he even gets to play AFL

Can't see him starting in any other side
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: iZander on September 05, 2016, 03:03:13 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on September 05, 2016, 03:02:08 PM
Quote from: Ringo on September 05, 2016, 03:00:04 PM
No secret. Josh Green open to a trade.

Should be thankful he even gets to play AFL

Can't see him starting in any other side

2 years leading goal kicker :P (i think, atleast 1 year though hahaha)
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: elephants on September 05, 2016, 03:13:05 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on September 05, 2016, 03:02:08 PM
Quote from: Ringo on September 05, 2016, 03:00:04 PM
No secret. Josh Green open to a trade.

Should be thankful he even gets to play AFL

Can't see him starting in any other side

Disagree. I think he has the makings of a good small forward, and like most, in a better side will be an even better player.

Don't like the way players like him seem to overrate their worth though I agree.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: meow meow on September 05, 2016, 03:16:32 PM
Tomlinson will play 3rd tall defender. Marchbank leaving and Patfull nearing retirement means there's a spot for him. Not that strange.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: _wato on September 05, 2016, 04:19:49 PM
Quote from: meow meow on September 05, 2016, 03:16:32 PM
Tomlinson will play 3rd tall defender. Marchbank leaving and Patfull nearing retirement means there's a spot for him. Not that strange.

Exactly. He's in their best 22 already (worked his ass off to get best 22) and has held his spot for the last 8 weeks. Why leave when the Giants are building something very special? Will play finals for the next 7-8 years you'd think easy
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Mat0369 on September 07, 2016, 03:56:17 AM
Depending how far the Giants actually go they might not be able to keep him anyway. There are some bonuses in contracts, particularly Grand Final related.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Ringo on September 07, 2016, 03:32:06 PM
Lions rumoured to be monitoring Jack Frost.  Meets the criteria of a hard bodied bloke whilst Andrews, McStay and Gardiner develop.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: elephants on September 07, 2016, 03:33:49 PM
Quote from: Ringo on September 07, 2016, 03:32:06 PM
Lions rumoured to be monitoring Jack Frost.  Meets the criteria of a hard bodied bloke whilst Andrews, McStay and Gardiner develop.

Only 24 too so really coming into his prime as a key defender. I like it.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Ringo on September 07, 2016, 03:40:46 PM
Quote from: elephants on September 07, 2016, 03:33:49 PM
Quote from: Ringo on September 07, 2016, 03:32:06 PM
Lions rumoured to be monitoring Jack Frost.  Meets the criteria of a hard bodied bloke whilst Andrews, McStay and Gardiner develop.

Only 24 too so really coming into his prime as a key defender. I like it.
Whether he wants the sunshine of Brisbane or not is probably the issue. Think it will depend whether Nathan Brown stays or goes. Lachie Keefe to come back in as well.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: _wato on September 07, 2016, 03:56:17 PM
Quote from: Ringo on September 07, 2016, 03:40:46 PM
Quote from: elephants on September 07, 2016, 03:33:49 PM
Quote from: Ringo on September 07, 2016, 03:32:06 PM
Lions rumoured to be monitoring Jack Frost.  Meets the criteria of a hard bodied bloke whilst Andrews, McStay and Gardiner develop.

Only 24 too so really coming into his prime as a key defender. I like it.
Whether he wants the sunshine of Brisbane or not is probably the issue. Think it will depend whether Nathan Brown stays or goes. Lachie Keefe to come back in as well.

Green + pick #21 for Frost and Witts could be the go 
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Grazz on September 07, 2016, 04:08:47 PM
Looks like Barlow is looking for a trade to another club.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Purple 77 on September 07, 2016, 04:15:34 PM
Rumours that melbourne have offered a contract to Nick Dal Santo

QuoteAFL Trade News First ‏@AFLTrade

   Recent reports suggest Melbourne will offer Nick Dal Santo a contract which'll see him play for one season & then become an assistant coach.

As far as credibility of rumour goes... pfft.

But it's an interesting thought.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: meow meow on September 07, 2016, 04:21:22 PM
Goodwin offered his mate Thommo that deal so he must be staying at the crows or retiring. Or somebody just made it up.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: _wato on September 07, 2016, 04:22:41 PM
Quote from: Purple 77 on September 07, 2016, 04:15:34 PM
Rumours that melbourne have offered a contract to Nick Dal Santo

QuoteAFL Trade News First ‏@AFLTrade

   Recent reports suggest Melbourne will offer Nick Dal Santo a contract which'll see him play for one season & then become an assistant coach.

As far as credibility of rumour goes... pfft.

But it's an interesting thought.

If this is true, just shows that Melbourne really are doing things very smartly.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: meow meow on September 07, 2016, 04:25:14 PM
Quote from: Mat0369 on September 07, 2016, 03:56:17 AM
Depending how far the Giants actually go they might not be able to keep him anyway. There are some bonuses in contracts, particularly Grand Final related.

I think it falls outside of the salary cap. The winning players get one million dollars split between them for winning a granny, that doesn't count under the cap. Brownlow medalists get heaps extra outside of the cap.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Purple 77 on September 07, 2016, 04:28:53 PM
Quote from: meow meow on September 07, 2016, 04:21:22 PM
Goodwin offered his mate Thommo that deal so he must be staying at the crows or retiring. Or somebody just made it up.

Heard about that too... which makes me think, why did we retire Daniel Cross if we are after leadership and experience?

Ah well. I watch on with interest!
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Big Mac on September 07, 2016, 05:36:56 PM
Quote from: Purple 77 on September 07, 2016, 04:28:53 PM
Quote from: meow meow on September 07, 2016, 04:21:22 PM
Goodwin offered his mate Thommo that deal so he must be staying at the crows or retiring. Or somebody just made it up.

Heard about that too... which makes me think, why did we retire Daniel Cross if we are after leadership and experience?

Ah well. I watch on with interest!

How would NDal fit in our side though? Zero room for him on half back, then he'd struggle to crack into our midfield wouldn't he? Seems odd
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Mat0369 on September 07, 2016, 05:39:18 PM
Quote from: meow meow on September 07, 2016, 04:25:14 PM
I think it falls outside of the salary cap. The winning players get one million dollars split between them for winning a granny, that doesn't count under the cap. Brownlow medalists get heaps extra outside of the cap.

Not when it is a trigger in their contract. There was an article about it around a month back, it said that if GWS were to win the GF this year then all these triggers come into play which would all be within the cap forcing them to dump a heap of salary.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Purple 77 on September 07, 2016, 05:44:22 PM
Quote from: Big  Mac on September 07, 2016, 05:36:56 PM
Quote from: Purple 77 on September 07, 2016, 04:28:53 PM
Quote from: meow meow on September 07, 2016, 04:21:22 PM
Goodwin offered his mate Thommo that deal so he must be staying at the crows or retiring. Or somebody just made it up.

Heard about that too... which makes me think, why did we retire Daniel Cross if we are after leadership and experience?

Ah well. I watch on with interest!

How would NDal fit in our side though? Zero room for him on half back, then he'd struggle to crack into our midfield wouldn't he? Seems odd

Yeah that's it, it just feels odd...

Over-compensation through a lack of leadership on ground perhaps? I dunno. I'd prefer to get games into guys like ANB instead of having NDS or Thompson getting them.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: iZander on September 07, 2016, 05:49:16 PM
Quote from: Purple 77 on September 07, 2016, 05:44:22 PM
Quote from: Big  Mac on September 07, 2016, 05:36:56 PM
Quote from: Purple 77 on September 07, 2016, 04:28:53 PM
Quote from: meow meow on September 07, 2016, 04:21:22 PM
Goodwin offered his mate Thommo that deal so he must be staying at the crows or retiring. Or somebody just made it up.

Heard about that too... which makes me think, why did we retire Daniel Cross if we are after leadership and experience?

Ah well. I watch on with interest!

How would NDal fit in our side though? Zero room for him on half back, then he'd struggle to crack into our midfield wouldn't he? Seems odd

Yeah that's it, it just feels odd...

Over-compensation through a lack of leadership on ground perhaps? I dunno. I'd prefer to get games into guys like ANB instead of having NDS or Thompson getting them.

You have all your leadership you need in Daws! :P
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Purple 77 on September 07, 2016, 05:50:48 PM
Quote from: iZander on September 07, 2016, 05:49:16 PM

You have all your leadership you need in Daws! :P

Not when he gets delisted  8)
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: iZander on September 07, 2016, 05:53:03 PM
Quote from: Purple 77 on September 07, 2016, 05:50:48 PM
Quote from: iZander on September 07, 2016, 05:49:16 PM

You have all your leadership you need in Daws! :P

Not when he gets delisted  8)

Outrageous
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Dudge on September 07, 2016, 08:43:11 PM
Should show him the Daw I  reckon
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: RaisyDaisy on September 07, 2016, 11:24:26 PM
Barrett reporting that Collingwood and at least one other club are after Nicky Dal
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Holz on September 08, 2016, 12:32:20 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on September 07, 2016, 11:24:26 PM
Barrett reporting that Collingwood and at least one other club are after Nicky Dal

GC should seriously look at him.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: elephants on September 08, 2016, 01:02:52 PM
Quote from: Holz on September 08, 2016, 12:32:20 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on September 07, 2016, 11:24:26 PM
Barrett reporting that Collingwood and at least one other club are after Nicky Dal

GC should seriously look at him.

Yeah he'll do well teaching the young kids how to shirk contact and avoid contested ball :P
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: crowls on September 08, 2016, 07:22:09 PM
Brissie should look at 1yr contract for Boomer.    200k plus house and car for a year to have someone show them how to train, eat, behave.    Cheap as.   Also probably end up being top goal scorer.


Moving the family would be a major issue I suppose.   
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: RaisyDaisy on September 08, 2016, 07:54:49 PM
Mayne leaving Freo and visiting 3 Vic clubs next week
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: T Dog on September 08, 2016, 08:39:34 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on September 08, 2016, 07:54:49 PM
Mayne leaving Freo and visiting 3 Vic clubs next week

A little under rated I think. Hope he gets a good deal.  :)
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: RaisyDaisy on September 11, 2016, 07:33:46 PM
West Coast interested in Petrie

With NN out for the year, I can understand how that helps us, and he wouldn't cost much at all
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: JBs-Hawks on September 11, 2016, 07:35:26 PM
Has looked pretty woeful this year though
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: RaisyDaisy on September 11, 2016, 07:42:27 PM
We'll be throwing everything at Lobb first.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: jvalles69 on September 11, 2016, 07:44:53 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on September 11, 2016, 07:42:27 PM
We'll be throwing everything at Lobb first.

We better be...think it's time to move on for a bunch of our guys too, Brown, E.Mac, Masten, think Lamb wants out, Butler prob on the verge of retirement.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Ricochet on September 11, 2016, 07:54:36 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on September 11, 2016, 07:42:27 PM
We'll be throwing everything at Lobb first.
You'll need to throw more than Freo to get him
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Ringo on September 11, 2016, 07:54:57 PM
Hawthorn and Essendon front runners for Jaeger O'Meara who has formally rejected $800k for 2 seasons from Suns.  Both Hawks and Bombers are believed to be offering longer deals. St Kilda and Melbourne also interested 
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Purple 77 on September 11, 2016, 08:06:07 PM
Quote from: Ringo on September 11, 2016, 07:54:57 PM
Hawthorn and Essendon front runners for Jaeger O'Meara who has formally rejected $800k for 2 seasons from Suns.  Both Hawks and Bombers are believed to be offering longer deals. St Kilda and Melbourne also interested

We got nothing to give to Gold Coast  :(

They already have our first rounder this year, and if ALL of our desired players re-committing, I don't think we have the trade bait.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: elephants on September 11, 2016, 08:39:00 PM
Quote from: jvalles69 on September 11, 2016, 07:44:53 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on September 11, 2016, 07:42:27 PM
We'll be throwing everything at Lobb first.

We better be...think it's time to move on for a bunch of our guys too, Brown, E.Mac, Masten, think Lamb wants out, Butler prob on the verge of retirement.

Couldn't agree more mate.

One of E-Mac + Brown needs to be sold with a pick to get us Hartlett or go really hard and bring David Swallow home (omfg).

Apparently delistings were announced today: K.Lucas, B.Colledge, C.Adamson, P.McGinnity, J.Bennell and A.Waterman are done at this point.

Really hoping this season made the list managers realise we need a few changes. Praying we land Swallow this off season.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Ringo on September 11, 2016, 08:46:08 PM
Quote from: Purple 77 on September 11, 2016, 08:06:07 PM
Quote from: Ringo on September 11, 2016, 07:54:57 PM
Hawthorn and Essendon front runners for Jaeger O'Meara who has formally rejected $800k for 2 seasons from Suns.  Both Hawks and Bombers are believed to be offering longer deals. St Kilda and Melbourne also interested

We got nothing to give to Gold Coast  :(

They already have our first rounder this year, and if ALL of our desired players re-committing, I don't think we have the trade bait.
Yep that is why I say Bombers or Hawks favourites. JOM out of contract as well.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: RaisyDaisy on September 11, 2016, 08:50:21 PM
Ele, pretty sure Swallow has already committed to GC and is playing out his contract next year
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: elephants on September 11, 2016, 08:53:49 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on September 11, 2016, 08:50:21 PM
Ele, pretty sure Swallow has already committed to GC and is playing out his contract next year

Interesting, Ive read different but he does seem like a pretty good bloke and he wouldnt wanna dog the team that gave him his AFL crack
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Toga on September 11, 2016, 08:57:51 PM
Have heard Swallow was disappointed with how the club publicly burned JOM when he decided he wanted to leave. So much so that he would be open to looking for a trade now rather than when his current contract ends.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: elephants on September 11, 2016, 09:01:12 PM
Quote from: Toga on September 11, 2016, 08:57:51 PM
Have heard Swallow was disappointed with how the club publicly burned JOM when he decided he wanted to leave. So much so that he would be open to looking for a trade now rather than when his current contract ends.

Yeah this what I was hearing
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: RaisyDaisy on September 11, 2016, 09:05:38 PM
If he leaves, surely North get him

Has always wanted to play with his brother
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: PowerBug on September 11, 2016, 09:18:57 PM
Quote from: elephants on September 11, 2016, 08:39:00 PM
One of E-Mac + Brown needs to be sold with a pick to get us Hartlett or go really hard and bring David Swallow home (omfg).
I think Port could use a key defender so hopefully a trade gets made there ;)
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: jvalles69 on September 11, 2016, 09:21:15 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on September 11, 2016, 09:05:38 PM
If he leaves, surely North get him

Has always wanted to play with his brother

Or both Swallows could come back to where they belong?  ;D
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Koop on September 11, 2016, 09:25:32 PM
Rumour floating around that both Will Hams & Shaun Edwards were told they were delisted by the Bombers after today's VFL game.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Holz on September 12, 2016, 01:40:11 PM
Quote from: Ringo on September 11, 2016, 07:54:57 PM
Hawthorn and Essendon front runners for Jaeger O'Meara who has formally rejected $800k for 2 seasons from Suns.  Both Hawks and Bombers are believed to be offering longer deals. St Kilda and Melbourne also interested

he wants a longer term deal because his body is shot i reckon. His value is low at the moment if he was conident in his body he should sign a 1 year deal kill it and then ask for a million a year.

either that or he is massively risk adverse, but i think its the former.

Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Nige on September 12, 2016, 02:43:28 PM
Quote from: Holz on September 12, 2016, 01:40:11 PM
Quote from: Ringo on September 11, 2016, 07:54:57 PM
Hawthorn and Essendon front runners for Jaeger O'Meara who has formally rejected $800k for 2 seasons from Suns.  Both Hawks and Bombers are believed to be offering longer deals. St Kilda and Melbourne also interested

he wants a longer term deal because his body is shot i reckon. His value is low at the moment if he was conident in his body he should sign a 1 year deal kill it and then ask for a million a year.

either that or he is massively risk adverse, but i think its the former.
Yeah, I tend to agree. Longer term deal definitely adds a bit more security and gives him a bit more time should he need it. Very interested to see how this all plays out.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: GoLions on September 12, 2016, 02:43:55 PM
Quote from: Nige on September 12, 2016, 02:43:28 PM
Quote from: Holz on September 12, 2016, 01:40:11 PM
Quote from: Ringo on September 11, 2016, 07:54:57 PM
Hawthorn and Essendon front runners for Jaeger O'Meara who has formally rejected $800k for 2 seasons from Suns.  Both Hawks and Bombers are believed to be offering longer deals. St Kilda and Melbourne also interested

he wants a longer term deal because his body is shot i reckon. His value is low at the moment if he was conident in his body he should sign a 1 year deal kill it and then ask for a million a year.

either that or he is massively risk adverse, but i think its the former.
Yeah, I tend to agree. Longer term deal definitely adds a bit more security and gives him a bit more time should he need it. Very interested to see how this all plays out.
Get back to your essay m8 :P
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Mr.Craig on September 13, 2016, 01:50:57 PM
Jaeger has nominated Hawthorn.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: nrich102 on September 13, 2016, 02:03:57 PM
Straight swap for Hawthorns first round pick?
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: meow meow on September 13, 2016, 02:20:19 PM
Hope he ends up at Richmond for a career full of misery. Fair enough choosing the state they want to play/live in but all these players acting like free agents is getting annoying.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: iZander on September 13, 2016, 02:23:02 PM
Quote from: meow meow on September 13, 2016, 02:20:19 PM
Fair enough choosing the state they want to play/live in but all these players acting like free agents is getting annoying.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Ringo on September 13, 2016, 02:25:05 PM
Quote from: meow meow on September 13, 2016, 02:20:19 PM
Hope he ends up at Richmond for a career full of misery. Fair enough choosing the state they want to play/live in but all these players acting like free agents is getting annoying.
Agree 100% which is why we need the academy pick concessions to get local talent into teams.  Reckon Drafteess to clubs that are not in players home state should be allowed to sign 3 year contracts as well.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Bill Manspeaker on September 13, 2016, 02:25:44 PM
he's just about done anyway

Hawks can take the risk, but like Dayle Garlett, this one won't pay off for em (for completely different reasons)

Tom Mitchell will work out for them though
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: shaker on September 13, 2016, 02:28:32 PM
Quote from: nrich102 on September 13, 2016, 02:03:57 PM
Straight swap for Hawthorns first round pick?

And the Hawks are chasing Tom Mitchell as well ? how are they going to get all the high first round picks needed to get these deals done ?
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: nas on September 13, 2016, 02:30:32 PM
Quote from: shaker on September 13, 2016, 02:28:32 PM
Quote from: nrich102 on September 13, 2016, 02:03:57 PM
Straight swap for Hawthorns first round pick?

And the Hawks are chasing Tom Mitchell as well ? how are they going to get all the high first round picks needed to get these deals done ?

+ O'Meara http://www.afl.com.au/news/2016-09-13/gold-coast-midfielder-jaeger-omeara-nominates-hawthorn-as-destination-
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Jay on September 13, 2016, 02:33:57 PM
Quote from: meow meow on September 13, 2016, 02:20:19 PM
Hope he ends up at Richmond for a career full of misery. Fair enough choosing the state they want to play/live in but all these players acting like free agents is getting annoying.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Gigantor on September 13, 2016, 02:40:30 PM
Quote from: nas on September 13, 2016, 02:30:32 PM
+ O'Meara http://www.afl.com.au/news/2016-09-13/gold-coast-midfielder-jaeger-omeara-nominates-hawthorn-as-destination-

Lol whats next  ;D ;D ;D

http://www.afl.com.au/news/2016-09-13/fremantle-midfielder-nat-fyfe-nominates-hawthorn-as-destination-
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2016-09-13/geelong-midfielder-patrick-dangerfield-nominates-hawthorn-as-destination-
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2016-09-13/richmond-defender-alex-rance-nominates-hawthorn-as-destination-
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2016-09-13/melbourne-ruckman-max-gawn-nominates-hawthorn-as-destination-
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2016-09-13/west-coast-forward-josh-kennedy-nominates-hawthorn-as-destination-
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: shaker on September 13, 2016, 02:46:18 PM
Quote from: nas on September 13, 2016, 02:30:32 PM
Quote from: shaker on September 13, 2016, 02:28:32 PM
Quote from: nrich102 on September 13, 2016, 02:03:57 PM
Straight swap for Hawthorns first round pick?

And the Hawks are chasing Tom Mitchell as well ? how are they going to get all the high first round picks needed to get these deals done ?

+ O'Meara http://www.afl.com.au/news/2016-09-13/gold-coast-midfielder-jaeger-omeara-nominates-hawthorn-as-destination-

What do the Hawks have pick 20 or somewhere near and next years 1st round and what gun mid will they give up ? can't see it being enough to land both Mitchell for me is worth much more than O'meara , unless the Swans and Suns are going to accept way unders
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: meow meow on September 13, 2016, 03:08:02 PM
Swans did trade Mummy for pick 35 so who knows!?
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: _wato on September 13, 2016, 03:22:54 PM
I'm not even mad. Hawks list is average once you take out all their older players who will retire at the end of next year.

Good luck being a middle of the table flog Jaegar!
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Purple 77 on September 13, 2016, 04:16:54 PM
Stahp.

The more we doubt Jaeger at Hawthorn, the more of a success he will be!
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Purple 77 on September 13, 2016, 04:22:09 PM
In regards to the hawks getting both Tom Mitchell & JOM, I just saw this depressing post at Demonland...

QuoteFreo trade Pick 3 to GWS for McCartny & Pick 7

Freo trade Pick 7 to Hawthorn for Hill & Pick 14 or 16 (dependent on if they loose this week or next week)

Hawthorn trade Pick 7 & Langford to Gold Coast for O'Meara

Hawthorn trade 2017 1st Round Pick & Schoenmakers to Sydney for Mitchell plus a 2nd or 3rd Round Pick in either draft.

Sadly I can see it happening.

McCarthy being overvalued and so too Hill IMO, but he has a point... sadly, I can see this happening  :-X
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Ricochet on September 13, 2016, 04:29:37 PM
Yeh I hate that
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: crowls on September 13, 2016, 04:43:09 PM
Quote from: Purple 77 on September 13, 2016, 04:22:09 PM
In regards to the hawks getting both Tom Mitchell & JOM, I just saw this depressing post at Demonland...

QuoteFreo trade Pick 3 to GWS for McCartny & Pick 7

Freo trade Pick 7 to Hawthorn for Hill & Pick 14 or 16 (dependent on if they loose this week or next week)

Hawthorn trade Pick 7 & Langford to Gold Coast for O'Meara

Hawthorn trade 2017 1st Round Pick & Schoenmakers to Sydney for Mitchell plus a 2nd or 3rd Round Pick in either draft.

Sadly I can see it happening.

McCarthy being overvalued and so too Hill IMO, but he has a point... sadly, I can see this happening  :-X
Makes it work.    Glad JOM wants Hawthorn, would rather see us get T Mitchell to Bombers.   Would love to see a picture of their board.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Scrads on September 13, 2016, 04:49:55 PM
Cats get Danger, Selwood, Henderson and Smith last year and no one (besides Crows fans) bats an eye.

Jaeger requests a trade to Hawthorn and the AFL world has a meltdown.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Scrads on September 13, 2016, 04:53:59 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on September 13, 2016, 04:29:37 PM
Yeh I hate that

Surprised you think that!

Pick 3 for Hill, McCarthy and pick 14-16ish!

People overrate draft picks so much IMO
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Nige on September 13, 2016, 04:56:43 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on September 13, 2016, 04:29:37 PM
Yeh I hate that
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Pkbaldy on September 13, 2016, 05:05:34 PM
Quote from: Scrads on September 13, 2016, 04:53:59 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on September 13, 2016, 04:29:37 PM
Yeh I hate that

Surprised you think that!

Pick 3 for Hill, McCarthy and pick 14-16ish!

People overrate draft picks so much IMO

Hahhahahahahahhahahahahahahahahaha

no.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Ricochet on September 13, 2016, 05:16:59 PM
Quote from: Scrads on September 13, 2016, 04:53:59 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on September 13, 2016, 04:29:37 PM
Yeh I hate that

Surprised you think that!

Pick 3 for Hill, McCarthy and pick 14-16ish!

People overrate draft picks so much IMO
Not when we should be able to get Hill and McCarthy without touching N3 man
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: elephants on September 13, 2016, 05:17:59 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on September 13, 2016, 05:16:59 PM
Not when we should be able to get Hill and McCarthy without touching N3 man

this if I were a Freo fan is massive
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Ringo on September 13, 2016, 06:38:38 PM
Congratulations for Suns for standing firm:

"Suns still saying they'll play hard over O'Meara. Marcus Ashcroft says O'Meara is on market to club that provides acceptable compensation."

About time too enough of kids dictating where they want to go.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: elephants on September 13, 2016, 06:40:16 PM
Great work GC, flower ya Jaeger
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Scrads on September 13, 2016, 07:37:11 PM
Quote from: Pkbaldy on September 13, 2016, 05:05:34 PM
Quote from: Scrads on September 13, 2016, 04:53:59 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on September 13, 2016, 04:29:37 PM
Yeh I hate that

Surprised you think that!

Pick 3 for Hill, McCarthy and pick 14-16ish!

People overrate draft picks so much IMO

Hahhahahahahahhahahahahahahahahaha

no.

Let's look at the last 20 Pick 3s.

1996: Rory Hilton
1997: Trent Croad
1998: Nic Fosdike
1999: Aaron Fiora
2000: Alan Didak
2001: Chris Judd
2002: Jared Brennan
2003: Colin Sylvia
2004: Ryan Griffen
2005: Xavier Ellis
2006: Lachie Hansen
2007: Chris Masten
2008: Stephen Hill
2009: Dustin Martin
2010: Sam Day
2011: Dom Tyson
2012: Lachie Plowman
2013: Jack Billings
2014: Angus Brayshaw
2015: Callum Mills

Granted the ones from the last couple of years are too early in their careers to properly know whether they would be worth it or not, I'd count 4 of those who actually would have been worth this proposed deal and even best case scenario, let's say the last 3 will all turn out to be worth it as well. That's a 7/20 hit rate for being better off with a Pick 3.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Ziplock on September 14, 2016, 12:13:16 PM
Quote from: Scrads on September 13, 2016, 07:37:11 PM
Quote from: Pkbaldy on September 13, 2016, 05:05:34 PM
Quote from: Scrads on September 13, 2016, 04:53:59 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on September 13, 2016, 04:29:37 PM
Yeh I hate that

Surprised you think that!

Pick 3 for Hill, McCarthy and pick 14-16ish!

People overrate draft picks so much IMO

Hahhahahahahahhahahahahahahahahaha

no.

Let's look at the last 20 Pick 3s.

1996: Rory Hilton
1997: Trent Croad
1998: Nic Fosdike
1999: Aaron Fiora
2000: Alan Didak
2001: Chris Judd
2002: Jared Brennan
2003: Colin Sylvia
2004: Ryan Griffen
2005: Xavier Ellis
2006: Lachie Hansen
2007: Chris Masten
2008: Stephen Hill
2009: Dustin Martin
2010: Sam Day
2011: Dom Tyson
2012: Lachie Plowman
2013: Jack Billings
2014: Angus Brayshaw
2015: Callum Mills

Granted the ones from the last couple of years are too early in their careers to properly know whether they would be worth it or not, I'd count 4 of those who actually would have been worth this proposed deal and even best case scenario, let's say the last 3 will all turn out to be worth it as well. That's a 7/20 hit rate for being better off with a Pick 3.

It depends what the club does with the pick as well though... it'd probably be fairer to look at pick 3,4,5 from each year since the splitting between them is just the call of the club :P
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: My Chumps on September 14, 2016, 03:01:57 PM
Should also probably consider improvements in recruiting/scouting young prospects.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Holz on September 14, 2016, 03:15:01 PM
Quote from: My Chumps on September 14, 2016, 03:01:57 PM
Should also probably consider improvements in recruiting/scouting young prospects.

basically take a mid early and not a outside only midfielder then your pretty much set.

2008: Stephen Hill
2009: Dustin Martin
2011: Dom Tyson
2013: Jack Billings
2014: Angus Brayshaw
2015: Callum Mills

the last 6. all good, billings been injured but still decent.

Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Pkbaldy on September 14, 2016, 03:27:33 PM
Quote from: Scrads on September 13, 2016, 07:37:11 PM
Quote from: Pkbaldy on September 13, 2016, 05:05:34 PM
Quote from: Scrads on September 13, 2016, 04:53:59 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on September 13, 2016, 04:29:37 PM
Yeh I hate that

Surprised you think that!

Pick 3 for Hill, McCarthy and pick 14-16ish!

People overrate draft picks so much IMO

Hahhahahahahahhahahahahahahahahaha

no.

Let's look at the last 20 Pick 3s.

1996: Rory Hilton
1997: Trent Croad
1998: Nic Fosdike
1999: Aaron Fiora
2000: Alan Didak
2001: Chris Judd
2002: Jared Brennan
2003: Colin Sylvia
2004: Ryan Griffen
2005: Xavier Ellis
2006: Lachie Hansen
2007: Chris Masten
2008: Stephen Hill
2009: Dustin Martin
2010: Sam Day
2011: Dom Tyson
2012: Lachie Plowman
2013: Jack Billings
2014: Angus Brayshaw
2015: Callum Mills

Granted the ones from the last couple of years are too early in their careers to properly know whether they would be worth it or not, I'd count 4 of those who actually would have been worth this proposed deal and even best case scenario, let's say the last 3 will all turn out to be worth it as well. That's a 7/20 hit rate for being better off with a Pick 3.

Didak
Judd
Griffen
Masten
Hill
Martin
Day
Tyson
Billings
Brayshaw
Mills

I rate all those over Brad "Daisy" Hill. Every nat pick has their spuds. Hill is an outside dog who gets flower all of the ball as is.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: meow meow on September 14, 2016, 04:03:02 PM
3 for Mitchell and 18
18 for Lobb
21 for McCarthy

Screw the Draft
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Gigantor on September 14, 2016, 04:47:02 PM
Quote from: meow meow on September 14, 2016, 04:03:02 PM
3 for Mitchell and 18
18 for Lobb
21 for McCarthy

Screw the Draft

Except they traded their second round pick to GC  ;D
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Scrads on September 14, 2016, 04:49:10 PM
Quote from: Pkbaldy on September 14, 2016, 03:27:33 PM
Quote from: Scrads on September 13, 2016, 07:37:11 PM
Quote from: Pkbaldy on September 13, 2016, 05:05:34 PM
Quote from: Scrads on September 13, 2016, 04:53:59 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on September 13, 2016, 04:29:37 PM
Yeh I hate that

Surprised you think that!

Pick 3 for Hill, McCarthy and pick 14-16ish!

People overrate draft picks so much IMO

Hahhahahahahahhahahahahahahahahaha

no.

Let's look at the last 20 Pick 3s.

1996: Rory Hilton
1997: Trent Croad
1998: Nic Fosdike
1999: Aaron Fiora
2000: Alan Didak
2001: Chris Judd
2002: Jared Brennan
2003: Colin Sylvia
2004: Ryan Griffen
2005: Xavier Ellis
2006: Lachie Hansen
2007: Chris Masten
2008: Stephen Hill
2009: Dustin Martin
2010: Sam Day
2011: Dom Tyson
2012: Lachie Plowman
2013: Jack Billings
2014: Angus Brayshaw
2015: Callum Mills

Granted the ones from the last couple of years are too early in their careers to properly know whether they would be worth it or not, I'd count 4 of those who actually would have been worth this proposed deal and even best case scenario, let's say the last 3 will all turn out to be worth it as well. That's a 7/20 hit rate for being better off with a Pick 3.

Didak
Judd
Griffen
Masten
Hill
Martin
Day
Tyson
Billings
Brayshaw
Mills

I rate all those over Brad "Daisy" Hill. Every nat pick has their spuds. Hill is an outside dog who gets flower all of the ball as is.

The question isn't who of that list is better than Brad Hill, the question is who on that list is better than Brad Hill, McCarthy and Pick 15 combined! You can't tell me you'd take Masten (as an 18 year old, but knowing he'd have the exact same career he's had up until this moment) ahead of McCarthy, Hill and pick 15 together.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Big Mac on September 14, 2016, 11:32:54 PM
Quote from: meow meow on September 14, 2016, 04:03:02 PM
3 for Mitchell and 18
18 for Lobb
21 for McCarthy

Screw the Draft

Lobb worth more than 18 surely
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: RaisyDaisy on September 14, 2016, 11:50:51 PM
Farren Ray has retired and Nahas has been delisted

No surprise considering the 4 they dropped earlier
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Jukes on September 15, 2016, 01:26:37 AM
Just looking up some Farren Ray stuff, went #4 in possibly the most horrible draft ever - honestly look at it https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2003_AFL_draft

9 of the top 20 did absolutely flower all in the AFL, while all the others bar Cooney, Walker, Sylvia (kinda), Stants, Mundy, and Butler had meh to bad careers (Waters was solid/a thug when he played his 10 games a year).
The best player taken between 21 and 32 was Brad Symes.
Adcock at #33 and Blake at #39 the only half-decent guys between 33 and 40, then Zac Dawson went #41.
Four gun players (for this draft) went 43 44 45 46 in Brett Peake, Ricky Dyson, Amon Buchanan, and Michael Pettigrew.
Shaw, Fisher, Rischitelli and Tuck the only decent players taken after 46.

Ironically, the rookie draft gave more talent - Carrazzo, Aaron Davey, Nath Foley, Duffield, Lovett-Murray, and Lovett the rapist! Michael Johnson went in the PSD too

Doing that made me vomit tbh
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Mat0369 on September 15, 2016, 02:17:04 AM
Quote from: Scrads on September 14, 2016, 04:49:10 PM
Quote from: Pkbaldy on September 14, 2016, 03:27:33 PM
Quote from: Scrads on September 13, 2016, 07:37:11 PM
Quote from: Pkbaldy on September 13, 2016, 05:05:34 PM
Quote from: Scrads on September 13, 2016, 04:53:59 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on September 13, 2016, 04:29:37 PM
Yeh I hate that

Surprised you think that!

Pick 3 for Hill, McCarthy and pick 14-16ish!

People overrate draft picks so much IMO

Hahhahahahahahhahahahahahahahahaha

no.

Let's look at the last 20 Pick 3s.

1996: Rory Hilton
1997: Trent Croad
1998: Nic Fosdike
1999: Aaron Fiora
2000: Alan Didak
2001: Chris Judd
2002: Jared Brennan
2003: Colin Sylvia
2004: Ryan Griffen
2005: Xavier Ellis
2006: Lachie Hansen
2007: Chris Masten
2008: Stephen Hill
2009: Dustin Martin
2010: Sam Day
2011: Dom Tyson
2012: Lachie Plowman
2013: Jack Billings
2014: Angus Brayshaw
2015: Callum Mills

Granted the ones from the last couple of years are too early in their careers to properly know whether they would be worth it or not, I'd count 4 of those who actually would have been worth this proposed deal and even best case scenario, let's say the last 3 will all turn out to be worth it as well. That's a 7/20 hit rate for being better off with a Pick 3.

Didak
Judd
Griffen
Masten
Hill
Martin
Day
Tyson
Billings
Brayshaw
Mills

I rate all those over Brad "Daisy" Hill. Every nat pick has their spuds. Hill is an outside dog who gets flower all of the ball as is.

The question isn't who of that list is better than Brad Hill, the question is who on that list is better than Brad Hill, McCarthy and Pick 15 combined! You can't tell me you'd take Masten (as an 18 year old, but knowing he'd have the exact same career he's had up until this moment) ahead of McCarthy, Hill and pick 15 together.

Judd
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Mat0369 on September 16, 2016, 11:05:28 PM
Marchbank has nominated Carlton. They want a top 10 pick in return I thought of a potential trade scenario.

Pick 5* and pick 23* for Marchbank, pick 16* and pick 17*

Pick 16* and pick 17* for Tom Mitchell!
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: RaisyDaisy on September 16, 2016, 11:48:56 PM
Don't think you're getting Mitchell Mat

Swans have offered 1.9M over 5, but apparently he's told people close to him that he's going to Hawthorn
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Mat0369 on September 16, 2016, 11:56:19 PM
Good luck to Hawthorn if they think they are getting O'Meara and Mitchell.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Grazz on September 17, 2016, 12:02:09 AM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on September 16, 2016, 11:48:56 PM
Don't think you're getting Mitchell Mat

Swans have offered 1.9M over 5, but apparently he's told people close to him that he's going to Hawthorn

That's only 380k a year, Mitchell from what i've heard feels he's worth more than that, to be honest I think he is.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Ricochet on September 17, 2016, 12:20:18 AM
Quote from: Grazz on September 17, 2016, 12:02:09 AM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on September 16, 2016, 11:48:56 PM
Don't think you're getting Mitchell Mat

Swans have offered 1.9M over 5, but apparently he's told people close to him that he's going to Hawthorn

That's only 380k a year, Mitchell from what i've heard feels he's worth more than that, to be honest I think he is.
I thought it was more that he didn't want to leave Syd but the offers coming to him were a lot more than that? Rather than him expecting more
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Grazz on September 17, 2016, 12:23:54 AM
Quote from: Ricochet on September 17, 2016, 12:20:18 AM
Quote from: Grazz on September 17, 2016, 12:02:09 AM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on September 16, 2016, 11:48:56 PM
Don't think you're getting Mitchell Mat

Swans have offered 1.9M over 5, but apparently he's told people close to him that he's going to Hawthorn

That's only 380k a year, Mitchell from what i've heard feels he's worth more than that, to be honest I think he is.
I thought it was more that he didn't want to leave Syd but the offers coming to him were a lot more than that? Rather than him expecting more

Story doing the rounds here in SA mate is he was asked to take less money this contract and he's not happy about it.
Only rumours though, nothing credible but's that what I heard.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Ricochet on September 17, 2016, 12:25:25 AM
Quote from: Grazz on September 17, 2016, 12:23:54 AM
Quote from: Ricochet on September 17, 2016, 12:20:18 AM
Quote from: Grazz on September 17, 2016, 12:02:09 AM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on September 16, 2016, 11:48:56 PM
Don't think you're getting Mitchell Mat

Swans have offered 1.9M over 5, but apparently he's told people close to him that he's going to Hawthorn

That's only 380k a year, Mitchell from what i've heard feels he's worth more than that, to be honest I think he is.
I thought it was more that he didn't want to leave Syd but the offers coming to him were a lot more than that? Rather than him expecting more

Story doing the rounds here in SA mate is he was asked to take less money this contract and he's not happy about it.
Only rumours though, nothing credible but's that what I heard.
Ok, fair enough mate.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: shaker on September 17, 2016, 09:32:56 AM
Quote from: Grazz on September 17, 2016, 12:02:09 AM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on September 16, 2016, 11:48:56 PM
Don't think you're getting Mitchell Mat

Swans have offered 1.9M over 5, but apparently he's told people close to him that he's going to Hawthorn

That's only 380k a year, Mitchell from what i've heard feels he's worth more than that, to be honest I think he is.

Yes 380K is a rubbish offer he will get way more than that elsewhere but the Swans have the Buddy , Tippett ball and chain around there neck plus trying to keep all there other stars and quality kids , Mitchell won't be the only ones they lose in coming years
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Scrads on September 17, 2016, 01:25:16 PM
Hawks will now have pick 13 or 14 depending on the winner of tonight's game. Between that, Brad Hill and future picks, do we have enough to get both Omeara and Titch?
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: kilbluff1985 on September 17, 2016, 01:46:04 PM
http://www.triplem.com.au/melbourne/sport/afl/news/2016/9/wayne-carey-suggests-one-hawthorn-star-could-be-traded-for-jaeger-omeara/
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: JBs-Hawks on September 17, 2016, 01:56:53 PM
Cant we just trade em hartung
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: shaker on September 17, 2016, 03:14:11 PM
Quote from: Scrads on September 17, 2016, 01:25:16 PM
Hawks will now have pick 13 or 14 depending on the winner of tonight's game. Between that, Brad Hill and future picks, do we have enough to get both Omeara and Titch?

Does not seem enough seeing GC are saying they want proper compensation for O,Meara , you could not expect a first rounder for Hill ? then Titch as well I'm sure the Swans know he has big currency just looking like GC and Sydney are going to receive better offers than the Hawks are able to offer
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: meow meow on September 17, 2016, 03:45:34 PM
Sicily apparently in the O'Meara deal.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: RaisyDaisy on September 17, 2016, 05:06:53 PM
Boyd playing on next year

Eagles chasing Hogan  8)
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: shaker on September 17, 2016, 05:11:46 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on September 17, 2016, 05:06:53 PM
Boyd playing on next year

Eagles chasing Hogan  8)

What Kennedy all washed up ?
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: RaisyDaisy on September 17, 2016, 05:15:26 PM
Quote from: shaker on September 17, 2016, 05:11:46 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on September 17, 2016, 05:06:53 PM
Boyd playing on next year

Eagles chasing Hogan  8)

What Kennedy all washed up ?

We want both forwards side by side  :)
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: shaker on September 17, 2016, 05:22:01 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on September 17, 2016, 05:15:26 PM
Quote from: shaker on September 17, 2016, 05:11:46 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on September 17, 2016, 05:06:53 PM
Boyd playing on next year

Eagles chasing Hogan  8)

What Kennedy all washed up ?

We want both forwards side by side  :)

That's a bit greedy :P
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Gigantor on September 17, 2016, 05:29:35 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on September 17, 2016, 05:06:53 PM
Boyd playing on next year

Eagles chasing Hogan  8)

Trading Darling and Lecca retiring maybe?
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: RaisyDaisy on September 18, 2016, 10:51:49 AM
Collingwood and Carlton the frontrunners for James Stewart from GWS

Funny how these two clubs seem to be the frontrunners for everyone lol
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Big Mac on September 18, 2016, 12:12:39 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on September 18, 2016, 10:51:49 AM
Collingwood and Carlton the frontrunners for James Stewart from GWS

Funny how these two clubs seem to be the frontrunners for everyone lol

They're two of the most popular clubs so it makes sense

More views on articles for the journo
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Nige on September 18, 2016, 12:27:23 PM
Stewart's a gun. Should be able to showcase how good he is with a proper run/fresh start at a new club.

Could have been a father/son pick to the Pies who opted to not pick him up in his draft year so that'd be interesting.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: powersuperkents on September 18, 2016, 12:34:15 PM
Quote from: Nige on September 18, 2016, 12:27:23 PM
Stewart's a gun. Should be able to showcase how good he is with a proper run/fresh start at a new club.

Could have been a father/son pick to the Pies who opted to not pick him up in his draft year so that'd be interesting.
I remember him saying that he was not happy with the Pies decision in 2014-15, so Collingwood must have done something to change his perceptions of the club if there's any truth to the suggestions that they are one of the front-runners.

*Not so much the decision to pass, however, Collingwood took an unreasonable amount of time to inform him before the draft while he was completing year 12 (so it would have been very stressful)
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Nige on September 18, 2016, 12:59:10 PM
Quote from: powersuperkents on September 18, 2016, 12:34:15 PM
Quote from: Nige on September 18, 2016, 12:27:23 PM
Stewart's a gun. Should be able to showcase how good he is with a proper run/fresh start at a new club.

Could have been a father/son pick to the Pies who opted to not pick him up in his draft year so that'd be interesting.
I remember him saying that he was not happy with the Pies decision in 2014-15, so Collingwood must have done something to change his perceptions of the club if there's any truth to the suggestions that they are one of the front-runners.

*Not so much the decision to pass, however, Collingwood took an unreasonable amount of time to inform him before the draft while he was completing year 12 (so it would have been very stressful)
Yeah, that was his dad (Craig Stewart), article here: http://www.afl.com.au/news/2015-05-21/giant-james-stewarts-father-unhappy-with-magpies-fatherson-process
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: GoLions on September 18, 2016, 01:09:26 PM
So, according to the BLT facey page:

- Emac wants to stay at the Iggs, but Mitch Brown will explore FA
- Lions interested in Alex Silvagni
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Bill Manspeaker on September 18, 2016, 02:15:06 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on September 18, 2016, 10:51:49 AM
Collingwood and Carlton the frontrunners for James Stewart from GWS

Funny how these two clubs seem to be the frontrunners for everyone lol

except Jack Steele  8)
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Ricochet on September 18, 2016, 02:26:36 PM
Quote from: GoLions on September 18, 2016, 01:09:26 PM
So, according to the BLT facey page:

- Emac wants to stay at the Iggs, but Mitch Brown will explore FA
- Lions interested in Alex Silvagni
Silvagni would be a good fit at Brissie. Tough as nails and a good stopper
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: RaisyDaisy on September 18, 2016, 02:29:58 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on September 18, 2016, 02:26:36 PM
Quote from: GoLions on September 18, 2016, 01:09:26 PM
So, according to the BLT facey page:

- Emac wants to stay at the Iggs, but Mitch Brown will explore FA
- Lions interested in Alex Silvagni
Silvagni would be a good fit at Brissie. Tough as nails and a good stopper

Is he really going to bring anything though? 29 at the start of next season and won't be around for any success. Should they just be grabbing youth and playing the long game?
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: GoLions on September 18, 2016, 02:31:40 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on September 18, 2016, 02:29:58 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on September 18, 2016, 02:26:36 PM
Quote from: GoLions on September 18, 2016, 01:09:26 PM
So, according to the BLT facey page:

- Emac wants to stay at the Iggs, but Mitch Brown will explore FA
- Lions interested in Alex Silvagni
Silvagni would be a good fit at Brissie. Tough as nails and a good stopper

Is he really going to bring anything though? 29 at the start of next season and won't be around for any success. Should they just be grabbing youth and playing the long game?
Our oldest defender is going to be like 21, so I don't mind it to just have that one experienced defender. The retirement of Clarke due to concussion has hurt us more than anyone could realize tbh.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: RaisyDaisy on September 18, 2016, 02:34:52 PM
Wow, Bruest could be sent to GC to secure JOM  :o

http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/hawthorn-may-put-luke-breust-on-trade-table-for-jaeger-omeara/news-story/3161389e1139541435fde1f37a68be29
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Ricochet on September 18, 2016, 02:35:59 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on September 18, 2016, 02:29:58 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on September 18, 2016, 02:26:36 PM
Quote from: GoLions on September 18, 2016, 01:09:26 PM
So, according to the BLT facey page:

- Emac wants to stay at the Iggs, but Mitch Brown will explore FA
- Lions interested in Alex Silvagni
Silvagni would be a good fit at Brissie. Tough as nails and a good stopper

Is he really going to bring anything though? 29 at the start of next season and won't be around for any success. Should they just be grabbing youth and playing the long game?
So play another kid and who gets 5 kicked on him every week??
They need experience and stability down back now they've lost Merrett
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: iZander on September 18, 2016, 02:36:12 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on September 18, 2016, 02:34:52 PM
Wow, Bruest could be sent to GC to secure JOM  :o

http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/hawthorn-may-put-luke-breust-on-trade-table-for-jaeger-omeara/news-story/3161389e1139541435fde1f37a68be29
Geezzzzzz
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Ringo on September 18, 2016, 02:41:07 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on September 18, 2016, 02:35:59 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on September 18, 2016, 02:29:58 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on September 18, 2016, 02:26:36 PM
Quote from: GoLions on September 18, 2016, 01:09:26 PM
So, according to the BLT facey page:

- Emac wants to stay at the Iggs, but Mitch Brown will explore FA
- Lions interested in Alex Silvagni
Silvagni would be a good fit at Brissie. Tough as nails and a good stopper

Is he really going to bring anything though? 29 at the start of next season and won't be around for any success. Should they just be grabbing youth and playing the long game?
So play another kid and who gets 5 kicked on him every week??
They need experience and stability down back now they've lost Merrett
Will be happy with one of frost or Silvagni for stability.  As GL Clarkes concussion really hurt our development so we need a defender while others continue to develop.  Gardiner, Andrews, McStay, Skinner will be great going forawrd but need someone big bodied for a year or 2 while they develop physically.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: TomK on September 18, 2016, 09:42:53 PM
Don't believe it for a second but I can dream!

AFL Trade Whisperer ‏@AFLTradeWhisper  34m34 minutes ago
1/3 I've come under fire for first reporting Dustin Martin's manager toured Moorabbin, linking Dusty with a move to the Saints #AFLTrades

AFL Trade Whisperer ‏@AFLTradeWhisper  30m30 minutes ago
2/3 Well, it had enough substance to warrant the Crows, believing Martin is gettable, to make direct contact with Ralph Carr #AFLTrades

AFL Trade Whisperer ‏@AFLTradeWhisper  28m28 minutes ago
3/3 Boasting a sizeable post-Danger war chest, I believe Adelaide have tabled a 5 year $6M deal to Martin, blowing the Saints offer away.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Pkbaldy on September 18, 2016, 09:49:12 PM
Quote from: TomK on September 18, 2016, 09:42:53 PM
Don't believe it for a second but I can dream!

AFL Trade Whisperer ‏@AFLTradeWhisper  34m34 minutes ago
1/3 I've come under fire for first reporting Dustin Martin's manager toured Moorabbin, linking Dusty with a move to the Saints #AFLTrades

AFL Trade Whisperer ‏@AFLTradeWhisper  30m30 minutes ago
2/3 Well, it had enough substance to warrant the Crows, believing Martin is gettable, to make direct contact with Ralph Carr #AFLTrades

AFL Trade Whisperer ‏@AFLTradeWhisper  28m28 minutes ago
3/3 Boasting a sizeable post-Danger war chest, I believe Adelaide have tabled a 5 year $6M deal to Martin, blowing the Saints offer away.

Hmmm bullshowerting surely??

Saints have that much money, no offer would blow them away haha.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: TomK on September 18, 2016, 10:12:05 PM
Quote from: Pkbaldy on September 18, 2016, 09:49:12 PM
Quote from: TomK on September 18, 2016, 09:42:53 PM
Don't believe it for a second but I can dream!

AFL Trade Whisperer ‏@AFLTradeWhisper  34m34 minutes ago
1/3 I've come under fire for first reporting Dustin Martin's manager toured Moorabbin, linking Dusty with a move to the Saints #AFLTrades

AFL Trade Whisperer ‏@AFLTradeWhisper  30m30 minutes ago
2/3 Well, it had enough substance to warrant the Crows, believing Martin is gettable, to make direct contact with Ralph Carr #AFLTrades

AFL Trade Whisperer ‏@AFLTradeWhisper  28m28 minutes ago
3/3 Boasting a sizeable post-Danger war chest, I believe Adelaide have tabled a 5 year $6M deal to Martin, blowing the Saints offer away.

Hmmm bullshowerting surely??

Saints have that much money, no offer would blow them away haha.
Yeah I'd say so, just interesting. Been reports this week that the Crows have salary cap issues so one of them is wrong. I'd prefer the Dusty one to be true :P
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: crowls on September 19, 2016, 04:27:17 AM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on September 18, 2016, 02:34:52 PM
Wow, Bruest could be sent to GC to secure JOM  :o

http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/hawthorn-may-put-luke-breust-on-trade-table-for-jaeger-omeara/news-story/3161389e1139541435fde1f37a68be29 (http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/hawthorn-may-put-luke-breust-on-trade-table-for-jaeger-omeara/news-story/3161389e1139541435fde1f37a68be29)
great trade for gc if it is true.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Ringo on September 19, 2016, 09:06:58 AM
Quote from: crowls on September 19, 2016, 04:27:17 AM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on September 18, 2016, 02:34:52 PM
Wow, Bruest could be sent to GC to secure JOM  :o

http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/hawthorn-may-put-luke-breust-on-trade-table-for-jaeger-omeara/news-story/3161389e1139541435fde1f37a68be29 (http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/hawthorn-may-put-luke-breust-on-trade-table-for-jaeger-omeara/news-story/3161389e1139541435fde1f37a68be29)
great trade for gc if it is true.
Yep would give Suns a forward line of Lynch, Bruest and Wright. Not bad targets if they can get the mif field right.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: RaisyDaisy on September 19, 2016, 09:55:29 AM
Hawks have since come out and denied it

I reckon Sicily is a much bigger chance of being moved
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: PowerBug on September 19, 2016, 09:57:23 AM
Who cares if OMeara goes to Hawthorn? Bloke will sit on their injury list for his career anywhere and the Hawks will give up something good for him! Hawks would be much better off going after Tom Mitchell.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: RaisyDaisy on September 19, 2016, 10:18:12 AM
Quote from: PowerBug on September 19, 2016, 09:57:23 AM
Who cares if OMeara goes to Hawthorn? Bloke will sit on their injury list for his career anywhere and the Hawks will give up something good for him! Hawks would be much better off going after Tom Mitchell.

They plan on getting both
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: kilbluff1985 on September 19, 2016, 10:33:20 AM
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on September 17, 2016, 01:46:04 PM
http://www.triplem.com.au/melbourne/sport/afl/news/2016/9/wayne-carey-suggests-one-hawthorn-star-could-be-traded-for-jaeger-omeara/

just pointing out i posted it a couple days ago  :'(
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: PowerBug on September 19, 2016, 11:42:35 AM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on September 19, 2016, 10:18:12 AM
Quote from: PowerBug on September 19, 2016, 09:57:23 AM
Who cares if OMeara goes to Hawthorn? Bloke will sit on their injury list for his career anywhere and the Hawks will give up something good for him! Hawks would be much better off going after Tom Mitchell.

They plan on getting both
Mitchell should be number 1. What has OMeara done in his career to get to dictate which club he gets to go to? (flower all is the answer) He hasn't been starved of opportunity like you can say Mitchell has, just been injured. Gold Coast should refuse to trade him imo.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: powersuperkents on September 19, 2016, 11:49:21 AM
Quote from: PowerBug on September 19, 2016, 11:42:35 AM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on September 19, 2016, 10:18:12 AM
Quote from: PowerBug on September 19, 2016, 09:57:23 AM
Who cares if OMeara goes to Hawthorn? Bloke will sit on their injury list for his career anywhere and the Hawks will give up something good for him! Hawks would be much better off going after Tom Mitchell.

They plan on getting both
Mitchell should be number 1. What has OMeara done in his career to get to dictate which club he gets to go to? (flower all is the answer) He hasn't been starved of opportunity like you can say Mitchell has, just been injured. Gold Coast should refuse to trade him imo.
He did win the rising star before he got injured...

Nothing against him, but I didn't agree with the votes that year... Wines should have won (I'm sorry, it's irrelevant, but I just have to mention it haha)
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Ricochet on September 19, 2016, 11:56:55 AM
Quote from: PowerBug on September 19, 2016, 11:42:35 AM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on September 19, 2016, 10:18:12 AM
Quote from: PowerBug on September 19, 2016, 09:57:23 AM
Who cares if OMeara goes to Hawthorn? Bloke will sit on their injury list for his career anywhere and the Hawks will give up something good for him! Hawks would be much better off going after Tom Mitchell.

They plan on getting both
Mitchell should be number 1. What has OMeara done in his career to get to dictate which club he gets to go to? (flower all is the answer) He hasn't been starved of opportunity like you can say Mitchell has, just been injured. Gold Coast should refuse to trade him imo.
I think he's said that GC should have done more to get his knee right. Maybe something happened there. Not sure

Also i don't think he's "demanded" to go to Hawks man. Just said he wants to get there. It happens all the time. If he was leaving on good terms, GC would have asked him where he wanted to go and would have tried to get him there. It happens all the time. But when this happens and a player is leaving on bad terms, everyone jumps all over them
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Holz on September 19, 2016, 01:49:38 PM
Quote from: powersuperkents on September 19, 2016, 11:49:21 AM
Quote from: PowerBug on September 19, 2016, 11:42:35 AM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on September 19, 2016, 10:18:12 AM
Quote from: PowerBug on September 19, 2016, 09:57:23 AM
Who cares if OMeara goes to Hawthorn? Bloke will sit on their injury list for his career anywhere and the Hawks will give up something good for him! Hawks would be much better off going after Tom Mitchell.

They plan on getting both
Mitchell should be number 1. What has OMeara done in his career to get to dictate which club he gets to go to? (flower all is the answer) He hasn't been starved of opportunity like you can say Mitchell has, just been injured. Gold Coast should refuse to trade him imo.
He did win the rising star before he got injured...

Nothing against him, but I didn't agree with the votes that year... Wines should have won (I'm sorry, it's irrelevant, but I just have to mention it haha)

people were saying JOM could be the greatest player of all time after that first year. Was clearly the rising star it wasnt even close.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: nrich102 on September 19, 2016, 01:54:34 PM
Yeah, think you might be part of a very small minority with that view PSK. JOM was already the Gold Coasts 2nd best player after just one season.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: GoLions on September 19, 2016, 01:56:42 PM
Quote from: nrich102 on September 19, 2016, 01:54:34 PM
Yeah, think you might be part of a very small minority with that view PSK. JOM was already the Gold Coasts 2nd best player after just one season.
Right behind Tommy J ;)
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: meow meow on September 19, 2016, 02:25:12 PM
Only fools were saying he could be the GOAT. It was barely his first season too. Being at the club, training, eating, living like an AFL player for 18 months prior to his debut puts him in a different category to other first year players. Of course he was going to be better than the usual #1 picks in their first year.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: meow meow on September 19, 2016, 02:26:35 PM
Yes, he would have gone at #1 in the draft the next year so that's why I said #1 draft pick.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Scrads on September 19, 2016, 03:59:06 PM
JOM received max votes from all panel members that year EXCEPT Mark Riccuito who put Brad Crouch ahead of him haha.

Hawks will be smart about it, they'll make his contract performance based and that he has to reach certain KPIs before earning the big bucks (namely, games played).
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: RaisyDaisy on September 19, 2016, 07:43:39 PM
Quote from: Koop on September 11, 2016, 09:25:32 PM
Rumour floating around that both Will Hams & Shaun Edwards were told they were delisted by the Bombers after today's VFL game.

Edwards delisted today
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Ricochet on September 19, 2016, 07:46:27 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on September 19, 2016, 07:43:39 PM
Quote from: Koop on September 11, 2016, 09:25:32 PM
Rumour floating around that both Will Hams & Shaun Edwards were told they were delisted by the Bombers after today's VFL game.

Edwards delisted today
"sKoop McClure"
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Purple 77 on September 19, 2016, 09:59:47 PM
Brisbane after Lynden Dunn apparently.

Would be a great get for the Lions, it was through a lack of changing to a new game style that stopped him getting games (i.e. playing on and taking risks). He's still a very handy player that I've been disappointed Melbourne have put on the outer.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Koop on September 19, 2016, 10:25:33 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on September 19, 2016, 07:46:27 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on September 19, 2016, 07:43:39 PM
Quote from: Koop on September 11, 2016, 09:25:32 PM
Rumour floating around that both Will Hams & Shaun Edwards were told they were delisted by the Bombers after today's VFL game.

Edwards delisted today
"sKoop McClure"
;)
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Nige on September 19, 2016, 10:26:47 PM
Quote from: Purple 77 on September 19, 2016, 09:59:47 PM
Brisbane after Lynden Dunn apparently.

Would be a great get for the Lions, it was through a lack of changing to a new game style that stopped him getting games (i.e. playing on and taking risks). He's still a very handy player that I've been disappointed Melbourne have put on the outer.
He looked like he was still very capable for Casey on the weekend, honestly reckon he'd be a good pick up for any club after a player of his kind.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: RaisyDaisy on September 19, 2016, 10:40:31 PM
Quote from: Nige on September 19, 2016, 10:26:47 PM
Quote from: Purple 77 on September 19, 2016, 09:59:47 PM
Brisbane after Lynden Dunn apparently.

Would be a great get for the Lions, it was through a lack of changing to a new game style that stopped him getting games (i.e. playing on and taking risks). He's still a very handy player that I've been disappointed Melbourne have put on the outer.
He looked like he was still very capable for Casey on the weekend, honestly reckon he'd be a good pick up for any club after a player of his kind.

I've always been a fan of Dunn. Not an amazing defender, but rebounds well and is versatile

Would be a good fit for Brisbane, and he shouldn't be playing in the VFL anyway - he's good enough for AFL imo
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Nige on September 19, 2016, 10:42:14 PM
Apparently the Swans are also interested in Zac Tuohy as well.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: nrich102 on September 19, 2016, 10:48:26 PM
Anyone know what we'll have to pay for Dunn? Im thinking 3rd round pick?

Saw swap for Hanley somewhere, would probably start supporting Collingwood if that happened.  :-X
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Nige on September 19, 2016, 10:52:28 PM
Also talk that Brisbane are open to trading Hanley and the Suns are interested.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Mat0369 on September 20, 2016, 02:06:43 AM
Quote from: Nige on September 19, 2016, 10:42:14 PM
Apparently the Swans are also interested in Zac Tuohy as well.

Only if it nets us Tom Mitchell otherwise they can forget about it.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: My Chumps on September 20, 2016, 02:12:10 AM
Quote from: Mat0369 on September 20, 2016, 02:06:43 AM
Quote from: Nige on September 19, 2016, 10:42:14 PM
Apparently the Swans are also interested in Zac Tuohy as well.

Only if it nets us Tom Mitchell otherwise they can forget about it.
You really rate Zac Tuohy?

Wells to Collingwood, 3 year deal @500k
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: SydneyRox on September 20, 2016, 09:59:02 AM
Quote from: Nige on September 19, 2016, 10:42:14 PM
Apparently the Swans are also interested in Zac Tuohy as well.

No idea why? Would rather Bruest, or what about Cyril? Heard he misses buddy......

Cyril for Mitchell sounds like a win/win  8)
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: AaronKirk on September 20, 2016, 11:15:24 AM
Dale Lewis on Triple M in Adelaide went with the rumour yesterday that Adelaide had offered a 5 year $6m contract to Dustin Martin.

I doubt Dusty would leave Adelaide and Ricciuto was quick to rubbish it on air over there yesterday.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Big Mac on September 20, 2016, 11:18:34 AM
Quote from: nrich102 on September 19, 2016, 10:48:26 PM
Anyone know what we'll have to pay for Dunn? Im thinking 3rd round pick?

Saw swap for Hanley somewhere, would probably start supporting Collingwood if that happened.  :-X

He's pretty much just depth for us so 48 should probably get it done

Might push for another small swap of picks
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: kilbluff1985 on September 20, 2016, 11:37:16 AM
http://www.triplem.com.au/melbourne/sport/afl/news/2016/9/mark-ricciuto-responds-to-dustin-martin-rumour/
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Ringo on September 20, 2016, 11:50:34 AM
Quote from: Big  Mac on September 20, 2016, 11:18:34 AM
Quote from: nrich102 on September 19, 2016, 10:48:26 PM
Anyone know what we'll have to pay for Dunn? Im thinking 3rd round pick?

Saw swap for Hanley somewhere, would probably start supporting Collingwood if that happened.  :-X

He's pretty much just depth for us so 48 should probably get it done

Might push for another small swap of picks
Agree Big Mac - A lot will depend on picks we have stored as well. Josh Green has still not formaly requested a trade but he could be involved in a trade.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Mat0369 on September 20, 2016, 11:55:48 AM
Quote from: My Chumps on September 20, 2016, 02:12:10 AM
You really rate Zac Tuohy?

Wells to Collingwood, 3 year deal @500k

Yes, yes I do. It won't be a straight swap but Tuohy has been pretty underrated the last couple of seasons. He has been brilliant since Malthouse was sacked.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: nrich102 on September 20, 2016, 12:14:55 PM
Trade radio launch live streamed on facebook (https://www.facebook.com/TradeRadio/?hc_ref=NEWSFEED). It's a dodgy stream but theres some interesting conversation.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Purple 77 on September 20, 2016, 12:26:27 PM
Quote from: Big  Mac on September 20, 2016, 11:18:34 AM
Quote from: nrich102 on September 19, 2016, 10:48:26 PM
Anyone know what we'll have to pay for Dunn? Im thinking 3rd round pick?

Saw swap for Hanley somewhere, would probably start supporting Collingwood if that happened.  :-X

He's pretty much just depth for us so 48 should probably get it done

Might push for another small swap of picks

Have seen another theory involving giving our second rounder and Dunn for Brisbanes secound rounder, which we give to Essendon for Hibberd.

FFS, Pick 26 is enough :P
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: RaisyDaisy on September 20, 2016, 12:33:30 PM
Hibberd has officially nominated Melbourne
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: The_Captain on September 20, 2016, 12:57:01 PM
So is cloke going to the bulldogs?

How does he fit in a forward line which will have : Boyd, Redpath, Crameri, Dickson, Stringer. It is already tight fitting boyd and redpath in same side... Cloke couldcover redpaths injury... but cant see him getting a game the end of next season/ the year after.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: My Chumps on September 20, 2016, 03:34:50 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on September 20, 2016, 12:33:30 PM
Hibberd has officially nominated Melbourne
Huge win for the Dees.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Holz on September 20, 2016, 03:56:25 PM
Quote from: meow meow on September 19, 2016, 02:25:12 PM
Only fools were saying he could be the GOAT. It was barely his first season too. Being at the club, training, eating, living like an AFL player for 18 months prior to his debut puts him in a different category to other first year players. Of course he was going to be better than the usual #1 picks in their first year.

question.

Is Tim Watson a fool?

Jaeger O'Meara could quite well go down in history as the greatest midfielder that's ever played the game," Watson said on Melbourne radio station SEN on Monday morning.

"He is unbelievable. You've got to keep reminding yourself that here is a kid in his first season of AFL football at 18 years of age. He has it all.

"I'll stand corrected if that doesn’t eventuate."

Not sure how you feel about Robert Walls

"He's going to be something very, very special," he said.

"To be better than (Suns captain) Gary Ablett is a big call. We'll have to check this in about six years' time, but I don’t think it's ridiculous what Tim said.

"That's how good the kid is."
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Purple 77 on September 20, 2016, 04:07:13 PM
Quote from: My Chumps on September 20, 2016, 03:34:50 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on September 20, 2016, 12:33:30 PM
Hibberd has officially nominated Melbourne
Huge win for the Dees.

YESSSSSSSSSSS!!!!!!!!!!

I have said well before the drugs scandal came out that Hibberd was my favourite Bomber :D (Worlds might have had something to do with that)

A great acquisition for us, if we get him
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: RaisyDaisy on September 20, 2016, 04:13:13 PM
Quote from: Holz on September 20, 2016, 03:56:25 PM
Is Tim Watson a fool?

Yes, but that has nothing to do with what he said there :P
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: My Chumps on September 20, 2016, 04:17:58 PM
Quote from: Purple 77 on September 20, 2016, 04:07:13 PM
Quote from: My Chumps on September 20, 2016, 03:34:50 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on September 20, 2016, 12:33:30 PM
Hibberd has officially nominated Melbourne
Huge win for the Dees.

YESSSSSSSSSSS!!!!!!!!!!

I have said well before the drugs scandal came out that Hibberd was my favourite Bomber :D (Worlds might have had something to do with that)

A great acquisition for us, if we get him
What are the chances you'll trade him now? :P

Brewer for life I'd imagine!
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: RaisyDaisy on September 20, 2016, 05:35:47 PM
Tom Wallis delisted

Don's seem to be cleaning house
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Purple 77 on September 20, 2016, 05:38:21 PM
Quote from: My Chumps on September 20, 2016, 04:17:58 PM
Quote from: Purple 77 on September 20, 2016, 04:07:13 PM
Quote from: My Chumps on September 20, 2016, 03:34:50 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on September 20, 2016, 12:33:30 PM
Hibberd has officially nominated Melbourne
Huge win for the Dees.

YESSSSSSSSSSS!!!!!!!!!!

I have said well before the drugs scandal came out that Hibberd was my favourite Bomber :D (Worlds might have had something to do with that)

A great acquisition for us, if we get him
What are the chances you'll trade him now? :P

Brewer for life I'd imagine!

Well, yes actually! From draftee to retiree ;)
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Purple 77 on September 21, 2016, 10:40:30 AM
Not a total hack FB page btw

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Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: nrich102 on September 21, 2016, 10:48:42 AM
Pls no
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: RaisyDaisy on September 21, 2016, 11:01:00 AM
NewsCorp reporting the same thing

Sounds convincing
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: elephants on September 21, 2016, 12:36:14 PM
Yeah looks like it done. I assume the Suns will be sending the Lions a pick or two to help with their rebuild.

Don't mind it, win-win imo
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Ringo on September 21, 2016, 12:44:50 PM
Will be interesting to see where he fits in at Suns if true.  Saad, KK, Harbrow. Malceski. Thompson, May, Rosa already there in defence.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: meow meow on September 21, 2016, 12:59:08 PM
Hanley can play wing or half forward so he'll fit in nicely. Good move from GC.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: meow meow on September 21, 2016, 01:05:07 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on September 20, 2016, 04:13:13 PM
Quote from: Holz on September 20, 2016, 03:56:25 PM
Is Tim Watson a fool?

Yes, but that has nothing to do with what he said there :P

Let's just start off with the fact that O'Meara was already 19 before he stepped onto an AFL field. Clearly a fool.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: elephants on September 21, 2016, 01:31:56 PM
Quote from: Ringo on September 21, 2016, 12:44:50 PM
Will be interesting to see where he fits in at Suns if true.  Saad, KK, Harbrow. Malceski. Thompson, May, Rosa already there in defence.

Harbrow and Rosa been playing wing largely, May and Thompson key defenders so there's no impact there.

I reckon he'll play in the guts anyway.

Good by GC, time will tell if the picks the Lions get come good.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: powersuperkents on September 21, 2016, 02:21:46 PM
Quote from: elephants on September 21, 2016, 12:36:14 PM
Yeah looks like it done. I assume the Suns will be sending the Lions a pick or two to help with their rebuild.

Don't mind it, win-win imo
+1

It doesn't look like Hanley has anything to offer the Lions at this point - if the Lions can get a second rounder (better yet, a first rounder), I would say they have secured a good return on investment
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: elephants on September 21, 2016, 02:35:39 PM
Quote from: powersuperkents on September 21, 2016, 02:21:46 PM
Quote from: elephants on September 21, 2016, 12:36:14 PM
Yeah looks like it done. I assume the Suns will be sending the Lions a pick or two to help with their rebuild.

Don't mind it, win-win imo
+1

It doesn't look like Hanley has anything to offer the Lions at this point - if the Lions can get a second rounder (better yet, a first rounder), I would say they have secured a good return on investment

"The Suns are well placed to secure Hanley with a swag of high draft picks - they hold picks No.4, 9, 21, 22, 25 and 28"

Maybe 21 + 22 for Hanley would seem about right.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Ringo on September 21, 2016, 02:45:55 PM
Quote from: elephants on September 21, 2016, 02:35:39 PM
Quote from: powersuperkents on September 21, 2016, 02:21:46 PM
Quote from: elephants on September 21, 2016, 12:36:14 PM
Yeah looks like it done. I assume the Suns will be sending the Lions a pick or two to help with their rebuild.

Don't mind it, win-win imo
+1

It doesn't look like Hanley has anything to offer the Lions at this point - if the Lions can get a second rounder (better yet, a first rounder), I would say they have secured a good return on investment

"The Suns are well placed to secure Hanley with a swag of high draft picks - they hold picks No.4, 9, 21, 22, 25 and 28"

Maybe 21 + 22 for Hanley would seem about right.
They will need some to use for  Bowes and Scheer from their academy. Both should be Top 20 with Bowes probably top 5
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: elephants on September 21, 2016, 02:50:55 PM
Quote from: Ringo on September 21, 2016, 02:45:55 PM
Quote from: elephants on September 21, 2016, 02:35:39 PM
Quote from: powersuperkents on September 21, 2016, 02:21:46 PM
Quote from: elephants on September 21, 2016, 12:36:14 PM
Yeah looks like it done. I assume the Suns will be sending the Lions a pick or two to help with their rebuild.

Don't mind it, win-win imo
+1

It doesn't look like Hanley has anything to offer the Lions at this point - if the Lions can get a second rounder (better yet, a first rounder), I would say they have secured a good return on investment

"The Suns are well placed to secure Hanley with a swag of high draft picks - they hold picks No.4, 9, 21, 22, 25 and 28"

Maybe 21 + 22 for Hanley would seem about right.
They will need some to use for  Bowes and Scheer from their academy. Both should be Top 20 with Bowes probably top 5

What do you think you will get? It won't be an established player as that's what the Suns are so desperate for, and the Lions aren't silly enough to give GC a bargain even if Hanley is not part of the Lions next premiership and has off-field issues.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Ringo on September 21, 2016, 02:52:25 PM
Could be involved in three way trade with O'Meara or Prestia me thinks.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: meow meow on September 21, 2016, 03:33:39 PM
This isn't an XV competition. Lions would be lucky to get 25 for him.

Cloke is probably going to the dogs for a 4th round pick.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: RaisyDaisy on September 21, 2016, 03:37:31 PM
Quote from: meow meow on September 21, 2016, 03:33:39 PM
This isn't an XV competition. Lions would be lucky to get 25 for him.

Cloke is probably going to the dogs for a 4th round pick.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Nige on September 21, 2016, 03:39:16 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on September 21, 2016, 03:37:31 PM
Quote from: meow meow on September 21, 2016, 03:33:39 PM
This isn't an XV competition. Lions would be lucky to get 25 for him.

Cloke is probably going to the dogs for a 4th round pick.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: elephants on September 21, 2016, 04:10:16 PM
Quote from: meow meow on September 21, 2016, 03:33:39 PM
This isn't an XV competition. Lions would be lucky to get 25 for him.

Cloke is probably going to the dogs for a 4th round pick.

Course its not but he's under contract and is an established player (plus in the Lions leadership group).

Unless Brisbane are getting a good deal they wouldn't be trading him.

Cloke is a different story - stated intentions to leave, chose Bulldogs, played reserves for Collinwood this season etc
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: powersuperkents on September 21, 2016, 04:37:36 PM
Quote from: elephants on September 21, 2016, 04:10:16 PM
Quote from: meow meow on September 21, 2016, 03:33:39 PM
This isn't an XV competition. Lions would be lucky to get 25 for him.

Cloke is probably going to the dogs for a 4th round pick.

Course its not but he's under contract and is an established player (plus in the Lions leadership group).

Unless Brisbane are getting a good deal they wouldn't be trading him.

Cloke is a different story - stated intentions to leave, chose Bulldogs, played reserves for Collinwood this season etc
+1

The Suns want established players - the potential picks for JoM & Prestia may change the situation (i.e. more likely to give away a second rounder).

I think the Lions will play hardball. But a second round pick seems fair considering Hanley is contracted and I would rate him more highly than Levi Greenwood due to his versatility (Greenwood was traded for pick 25 is a solid draft year).

But I agree, a fantasy football perspective is a misleading way to perceive him (he isn't really who you want as an accumulator), however, he does have certain x-factor qualities that certainly make him worth a second round selection (his ability to score from significant distances in play is certainly unique).
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Ringo on September 21, 2016, 04:38:50 PM
Hanley apparently wants out from reports so when this is public expect a lot of clubs will enquire. GWS rumoured to have already enquired. Hanley is contracted to 2019 so Lions would expect fair compensation.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: elephants on September 21, 2016, 04:42:40 PM
Ive said a million times, Hanley could be elite in a good team.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Money Shot on September 21, 2016, 04:51:22 PM
So Carlton are getting ...

Grigg
Marchbank
Stewart
Lennon

Will be good for the rebuilding stage 8) especially because we won't have to go to much for them I don't think??? Marchbank being the exception!

Also heard that Tom Lamb may want to be coming back to Melbourne and I've loved him from he's U18's days so if we get him in the next few years I would be stoked! That's more wishful thinking than anything though :)
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: nrich102 on September 21, 2016, 04:57:37 PM
Gold Coast, Brisbane, Richmond, Collingwood and North are all looking at Will Minson apparently. Can't see him being a good fit for either Queensland club or North. Might fit in at Richmond for a season as they look to find a replacement for Maric?
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Holz on September 21, 2016, 05:45:10 PM
Quote from: elephants on September 21, 2016, 04:42:40 PM
Ive said a million times, Hanley could be elite in a good team.

well he is at GC at lions so we will never know.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Money Shot on September 21, 2016, 06:00:34 PM
Tuohy has been offered a "healthy" three year deal and I hope he takes it!
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Nige on September 21, 2016, 06:20:18 PM
Quote from: nrich102 on September 21, 2016, 04:57:37 PM
Gold Coast, Brisbane, Richmond, Collingwood and North are all looking at Will Minson apparently. Can't see him being a good fit for either Queensland club or North. Might fit in at Richmond for a season as they look to find a replacement for Maric?
Would be interesting if we parted with Ivan for Wilbur. I guess Wilbur's body isn't shot and he's probably a bit more agile than Ivvy.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: RaisyDaisy on September 21, 2016, 07:04:05 PM
COLLINGWOOD has delisted Matthew Goodyear after two games in two seasons along with Greater Western Sydney recruit Tim Golds and catergory B rookie Darrean Wyatt.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: shaker on September 21, 2016, 07:26:48 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on September 21, 2016, 07:04:05 PM
COLLINGWOOD has delisted Matthew Goodyear after two games in two seasons along with Greater Western Sydney recruit Tim Golds and catergory B rookie Darrean Wyatt.

Making room for party boys Keeffe and Thomas
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: fanTCfool on September 21, 2016, 08:14:16 PM
Quote from: Money Shot on September 21, 2016, 06:00:34 PM
Tuohy has been offered a "healthy" three year deal and I hope he takes it!

I'll be spewing if we lose Tuohy, surely no one wants to go to North at the moment anyway.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: RaisyDaisy on September 22, 2016, 10:39:04 PM
Wells offered 1.8M over 3 years by Collingwood

Rockliff shopping himself around, but no bites yet
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Spite on September 22, 2016, 10:46:34 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on September 22, 2016, 10:39:04 PM
Wells offered 1.8M over 3 years by Collingwood


Seems like a lot but after Cloke leaves, Swan retires and probably 2 of nathan brown, witts or marley leave, we will have $1m+ in the cap. Could probably just pay a large chunk of it this year, front-end it.

Surely no one offers him anywhere near that amount so I expect he will come to us  8)

Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Jukes on September 22, 2016, 10:58:39 PM
Dons leading the way for Koby Stevens...not a gun that will change the competition, but still a nice piece to have with upside.

QuoteESSENDON is the leading contender for out of contract Western Bulldogs midfielder Koby Stevens, who is a strong chance to leave Whitten Oval.

While the Gold Coast Suns also have an interest in Stevens, who has missed selection in the Bulldogs’ team for the preliminary final, the Bombers are understood to be best positioned to pick up Stevens’ services, though no deal has been struck and they are not the only Victorian club interested in the midfielder.

Stevens is one of a number of out of contract players who are on Essendon’s radar, with the Dons able to use the first pick in the pre-season draft as a lever for picking up a player.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: fanTCfool on September 22, 2016, 11:30:04 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on September 22, 2016, 10:39:04 PM
Wells offered 1.8M over 3 years by Collingwood

Rockliff shopping himself around, but no bites yet

What's Rocky asking for? 800k per year?
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Big Mac on September 23, 2016, 02:50:05 AM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on September 22, 2016, 10:39:04 PM
Wells offered 1.8M over 3 years by Collingwood

Not worth that much surely, will be 32 at start of next season and with his injury history.....
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: RaisyDaisy on September 23, 2016, 08:16:51 AM
I agree BM

Collingwood are not winning a flag anytime soon and already have so much mids so I don't quite get why they'd put up so much and take that risk. Youth is definitely the path you'd think they should be going down

Obvious Swan replacement, but I don't think they actually need that.

Reckon Dal would be a better fit, and cheaper, just to give them another experienced and composed player down back, which I think is more value than Wells at that price
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: RaisyDaisy on September 23, 2016, 08:33:18 AM
HS reporting that Geelong are looking to land one of Wells, Deledio or Hanley
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: shaker on September 23, 2016, 09:17:33 AM
Yes Damian Barrett on the footy show said the Pies had offered 1.8 million for 3 years , Wells is good but seems a bit much for a 32 year old that has played only 27 games in 3 years because of chronic lower leg problems guess the Pies are throwing everything to get the team and Bucks playing finals , can see this going pear shaped big time  :-X
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Holz on September 23, 2016, 11:36:42 AM
probably bias here given would like to keep wells, but surely you go NDS over him. Much much cheaper and actually looked good in the second half of the year. Can play him off the HBF too and he isnt as big an injury risk.

What do they expect Wells to do when he is 35, an outside player who relies on his pace and is injury prone.

Just stupid, I wouldn't want north to offer him 3 years.

Nick Dal Santo to the saints makes loads of sense, they could really use his class on the HBF.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: GoLions on September 23, 2016, 01:48:30 PM
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2016-09-23/pearce-hanley-hasnt-asked-to-leave-lions-ceo
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: JBs-Hawks on September 23, 2016, 03:06:31 PM
Quote from: shaker on September 23, 2016, 09:17:33 AM
Yes Damian Barrett on the footy show said the Pies had offered 1.8 million for 3 years , Wells is good but seems a bit much for a 32 year old that has played only 27 games in 3 years because of chronic lower leg problems guess the Pies are throwing everything to get the team and Bucks playing finals , can see this going pear shaped big time  :-X

It would be performance based
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: meow meow on September 23, 2016, 03:17:31 PM
Quote from: Spite on September 22, 2016, 10:46:34 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on September 22, 2016, 10:39:04 PM
Wells offered 1.8M over 3 years by Collingwood


Seems like a lot but after Cloke leaves, Swan retires and probably 2 of nathan brown, witts or marley leave, we will have $1m+ in the cap. Could probably just pay a large chunk of it this year, front-end it.

Surely no one offers him anywhere near that amount so I expect he will come to us  8)

Pies will be paying half of Cloke's salary so it's more like 250 freed up instead of 500.

Will still have plenty of room for Wells and he's a gun so getting him would be good.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Spite on September 23, 2016, 03:40:31 PM
Quote from: meow meow on September 23, 2016, 03:17:31 PM
Quote from: Spite on September 22, 2016, 10:46:34 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on September 22, 2016, 10:39:04 PM
Wells offered 1.8M over 3 years by Collingwood


Seems like a lot but after Cloke leaves, Swan retires and probably 2 of nathan brown, witts or marley leave, we will have $1m+ in the cap. Could probably just pay a large chunk of it this year, front-end it.

Surely no one offers him anywhere near that amount so I expect he will come to us  8)

Pies will be paying half of Cloke's salary so it's more like 250 freed up instead of 500.

Will still have plenty of room for Wells and he's a gun so getting him would be good.

I heard yesterday that we may accept a lower offer to completing rid us of having to pay any part of clokes contract. At the end of the day I guess we won't know anyway
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Holz on September 23, 2016, 03:50:26 PM
Quote from: meow meow on September 23, 2016, 03:17:31 PM
Quote from: Spite on September 22, 2016, 10:46:34 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on September 22, 2016, 10:39:04 PM
Wells offered 1.8M over 3 years by Collingwood


Seems like a lot but after Cloke leaves, Swan retires and probably 2 of nathan brown, witts or marley leave, we will have $1m+ in the cap. Could probably just pay a large chunk of it this year, front-end it.

Surely no one offers him anywhere near that amount so I expect he will come to us  8)

Pies will be paying half of Cloke's salary so it's more like 250 freed up instead of 500.

Will still have plenty of room for Wells and he's a gun so getting him would be good.

Why would you pick up a 32 year old injury prone guy who relies on his pace when you arent even contending for a flag.

I kinda want him to leave North, along with Waite.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Ricochet on September 23, 2016, 03:52:43 PM
Quote from: Holz on September 23, 2016, 03:50:26 PM
Quote from: meow meow on September 23, 2016, 03:17:31 PM
Quote from: Spite on September 22, 2016, 10:46:34 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on September 22, 2016, 10:39:04 PM
Wells offered 1.8M over 3 years by Collingwood


Seems like a lot but after Cloke leaves, Swan retires and probably 2 of nathan brown, witts or marley leave, we will have $1m+ in the cap. Could probably just pay a large chunk of it this year, front-end it.

Surely no one offers him anywhere near that amount so I expect he will come to us  8)

Pies will be paying half of Cloke's salary so it's more like 250 freed up instead of 500.

Will still have plenty of room for Wells and he's a gun so getting him would be good.

Why would you pick up a 32 year old injury prone guy who relies on his pace when you arent even contending for a flag.

I kinda want him to leave North, along with Waite.
Because Pies are lacking great users on the outside. I think its a good get for them
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Holz on September 23, 2016, 04:23:17 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on September 23, 2016, 03:52:43 PM
Quote from: Holz on September 23, 2016, 03:50:26 PM
Quote from: meow meow on September 23, 2016, 03:17:31 PM
Quote from: Spite on September 22, 2016, 10:46:34 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on September 22, 2016, 10:39:04 PM
Wells offered 1.8M over 3 years by Collingwood


Seems like a lot but after Cloke leaves, Swan retires and probably 2 of nathan brown, witts or marley leave, we will have $1m+ in the cap. Could probably just pay a large chunk of it this year, front-end it.

Surely no one offers him anywhere near that amount so I expect he will come to us  8)

Pies will be paying half of Cloke's salary so it's more like 250 freed up instead of 500.

Will still have plenty of room for Wells and he's a gun so getting him would be good.

Why would you pick up a 32 year old injury prone guy who relies on his pace when you arent even contending for a flag.

I kinda want him to leave North, along with Waite.
Because Pies are lacking great users on the outside. I think its a good get for them

I understand but they arent contenders and your picking up a really injury prone guy, who is that old.

I understand if they were pushing for the top 4 and he was the cherry on top of a very good team.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: RaisyDaisy on September 23, 2016, 04:27:13 PM
ADELAIDE has cut former Hawthorn ruck/forward Luke Lowden and rookie-listed forward Keenan Ramsey.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: kilbluff1985 on September 23, 2016, 06:21:16 PM
anyone else heard GWS are keen on  getting pick 1?
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: GoLions on September 23, 2016, 06:23:24 PM
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on September 23, 2016, 06:21:16 PM
anyone else heard GWS are keen on  getting pick 1?
*1, 2, or 3
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: iZander on September 23, 2016, 06:24:35 PM
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on September 23, 2016, 06:21:16 PM
anyone else heard GWS are keen on  getting pick 1?
I like this, send us a bunch of guns for it :P
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: strikes91 on September 23, 2016, 06:39:44 PM
They want McGrath. 1 offer I have heard is Patton and 7 to Freo for 3
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: iZander on September 23, 2016, 06:41:22 PM
Quote from: strikes91 on September 23, 2016, 06:39:44 PM
They want McGrath. 1 offer I have heard is Patton and 7 to Freo for 3
seems very odd since they already trading mcarthy there youd think and Lobby already linked to a trade :P
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: JBs-Hawks on September 23, 2016, 06:48:13 PM
Quote from: strikes91 on September 23, 2016, 06:39:44 PM
They want McGrath. 1 offer I have heard is Patton and 7 to Freo for 3

patton would be worth more then 3 without the 7 on top....
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Purple 77 on September 23, 2016, 07:42:04 PM
I think I read somewhere that GWS reckon they can get Pick 5 off Carlton for Marchbank  :-X

Like, it'd be Marchbank + something for Pick 5
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Holz on September 23, 2016, 07:58:24 PM
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on September 23, 2016, 06:21:16 PM
anyone else heard GWS are keen on  getting pick 1?

Why would thry do that. Mcgluggage should go 1 and thry have too many mids.

Have always said they should throw hopper kennedy 1St rounder for like fyfe, parker, Sloane, rance etc.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: JBs-Hawks on September 23, 2016, 08:01:04 PM
Quote from: Holz on September 23, 2016, 07:58:24 PM
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on September 23, 2016, 06:21:16 PM
anyone else heard GWS are keen on  getting pick 1?

Why would thry do that. Mcgluggage should go 1 and thry have too many mids.

Have always said they should throw hopper kennedy 1St rounder for like fyfe, parker, Sloane, rance etc.

I think they should just keep doing what there doing cos there doing it bloody well!
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: strikes91 on September 23, 2016, 08:07:33 PM
Quote from: iZander on September 23, 2016, 06:41:22 PM
Quote from: strikes91 on September 23, 2016, 06:39:44 PM
They want McGrath. 1 offer I have heard is Patton and 7 to Freo for 3
seems very odd since they already trading mcarthy there youd think and Lobby already linked to a trade :P

My mistake it was the bombers not freo
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: kilbluff1985 on September 23, 2016, 08:13:12 PM
i'd be happy with Patton & 7 for 1
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: iZander on September 23, 2016, 08:14:27 PM
Quote from: strikes91 on September 23, 2016, 08:07:33 PM
Quote from: iZander on September 23, 2016, 06:41:22 PM
Quote from: strikes91 on September 23, 2016, 06:39:44 PM
They want McGrath. 1 offer I have heard is Patton and 7 to Freo for 3
seems very odd since they already trading mcarthy there youd think and Lobby already linked to a trade :P

My mistake it was the bombers not freo
Makes more sense, and id be very happy with this!
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: strikes91 on September 23, 2016, 08:18:05 PM
Quote from: iZander on September 23, 2016, 08:14:27 PM
Quote from: strikes91 on September 23, 2016, 08:07:33 PM
Quote from: iZander on September 23, 2016, 06:41:22 PM
Quote from: strikes91 on September 23, 2016, 06:39:44 PM
They want McGrath. 1 offer I have heard is Patton and 7 to Freo for 3
seems very odd since they already trading mcarthy there youd think and Lobby already linked to a trade :P

My mistake it was the bombers not freo
Makes more sense, and id be very happy with this!

You would be I bet. I don't seem to think it has any legs though. Patton is coming along nicely for them.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: crowls on September 23, 2016, 08:34:47 PM
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on September 23, 2016, 08:13:12 PM
i'd be happy with Patton & 7 for 1
be a good trade for the bombers.    love to see it come off.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Money Shot on September 24, 2016, 11:30:54 AM
Ellis Yolmen is considering requesting a trade for more opportunities. really like him and wouldn't mind him at Carlton!
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: LF on September 24, 2016, 12:16:15 PM
Quote from: Money Shot on September 24, 2016, 11:30:54 AM
Ellis Yolmen is considering requesting a trade for more opportunities. really like him and wouldn't mind him at Carlton!

Not really surprised at this especially reading they offered Thompson another year,looks like Crows might lose both him and Grigg now
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Money Shot on September 24, 2016, 12:29:56 PM
Quote from: LF on September 24, 2016, 12:16:15 PM
Quote from: Money Shot on September 24, 2016, 11:30:54 AM
Ellis Yolmen is considering requesting a trade for more opportunities. really like him and wouldn't mind him at Carlton!

Not really surprised at this especially reading they offered Thompson another year,looks like Crows might lose both him and Grigg now

Can't wait for the both of them to arrive at Carlton ;)
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Jay on September 24, 2016, 01:13:05 PM
Quote from: LF on September 24, 2016, 12:16:15 PM
Quote from: Money Shot on September 24, 2016, 11:30:54 AM
Ellis Yolmen is considering requesting a trade for more opportunities. really like him and wouldn't mind him at Carlton!

Not really surprised at this especially reading they offered Thompson another year,looks like Crows might lose both him and Grigg now
Don't ask me how I feel about this  :-[
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Spite on September 24, 2016, 01:39:08 PM
Quote from: Holz on September 23, 2016, 04:23:17 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on September 23, 2016, 03:52:43 PM
Quote from: Holz on September 23, 2016, 03:50:26 PM
Quote from: meow meow on September 23, 2016, 03:17:31 PM
Quote from: Spite on September 22, 2016, 10:46:34 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on September 22, 2016, 10:39:04 PM
Wells offered 1.8M over 3 years by Collingwood


Seems like a lot but after Cloke leaves, Swan retires and probably 2 of nathan brown, witts or marley leave, we will have $1m+ in the cap. Could probably just pay a large chunk of it this year, front-end it.

Surely no one offers him anywhere near that amount so I expect he will come to us  8)

Pies will be paying half of Cloke's salary so it's more like 250 freed up instead of 500.

Will still have plenty of room for Wells and he's a gun so getting him would be good.

Why would you pick up a 32 year old injury prone guy who relies on his pace when you arent even contending for a flag.

I kinda want him to leave North, along with Waite.
Because Pies are lacking great users on the outside. I think its a good get for them

I understand but they arent contenders and your picking up a really injury prone guy, who is that old.

I understand if they were pushing for the top 4 and he was the cherry on top of a very good team.

It isn't as black and white as that Holz. There's a lot more to it, I'll talk about it with you another time if you want, just busy now
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Mr.Craig on September 24, 2016, 07:17:30 PM
Quote from: LF on September 24, 2016, 12:16:15 PM
Quote from: Money Shot on September 24, 2016, 11:30:54 AM
Ellis Yolmen is considering requesting a trade for more opportunities. really like him and wouldn't mind him at Carlton!

Not really surprised at this especially reading they offered Thompson another year,looks like Crows might lose both him and Grigg now

Not to mention Henderson, Lyons and Wigg all being uncontracted. Could be a bit of trade action with the Crows for once.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: DazBurg on September 24, 2016, 10:14:21 PM
Channel 7's Tom Browne is reporting that Collingwood and Marley Williams are unable to agree to a new contract, with Richmond looking the most likely suitor.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Holz on September 24, 2016, 10:34:07 PM
Quote from: Spite on September 24, 2016, 01:39:08 PM
Quote from: Holz on September 23, 2016, 04:23:17 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on September 23, 2016, 03:52:43 PM
Quote from: Holz on September 23, 2016, 03:50:26 PM
Quote from: meow meow on September 23, 2016, 03:17:31 PM
Quote from: Spite on September 22, 2016, 10:46:34 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on September 22, 2016, 10:39:04 PM
Wells offered 1.8M over 3 years by Collingwood


Seems like a lot but after Cloke leaves, Swan retires and probably 2 of nathan brown, witts or marley leave, we will have $1m+ in the cap. Could probably just pay a large chunk of it this year, front-end it.

Surely no one offers him anywhere near that amount so I expect he will come to us  8)

Pies will be paying half of Cloke's salary so it's more like 250 freed up instead of 500.

Will still have plenty of room for Wells and he's a gun so getting him would be good.

Why would you pick up a 32 year old injury prone guy who relies on his pace when you arent even contending for a flag.

I kinda want him to leave North, along with Waite.
Because Pies are lacking great users on the outside. I think its a good get for them

I understand but they arent contenders and your picking up a really injury prone guy, who is that old.

I understand if they were pushing for the top 4 and he was the cherry on top of a very good team.

It isn't as black and white as that Holz. There's a lot more to it, I'll talk about it with you another time if you want, just busy now

funny i thought collingwood was black and white
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: jvalles69 on September 25, 2016, 12:13:57 AM
Quote from: DazBurg on September 24, 2016, 10:14:21 PM
Channel 7's Tom Browne is reporting that Collingwood and Marley Williams are unable to agree to a new contract, with Richmond looking the most likely suitor.

Have heard over here in Perth the Freo might try to move Mayne for Williams and possibly Ballas for Kersten...nothing substantial yet though, just rumours.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Mat0369 on September 25, 2016, 04:18:29 AM
That Judd bloke reckons the Eagles will make a play for Tom Mitchell and they may even be the frontrunners.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: shaker on September 25, 2016, 09:39:34 AM
Ha ha every player is going to every club and every club is chasing every player , it is going to be a very interesting trade period
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Jukes on September 25, 2016, 01:42:26 PM
Quote from: shaker on September 25, 2016, 09:39:34 AM
Ha ha every player is going to every club and every club is chasing every player , it is going to be a very interesting trade period

Mitchell to play a game for every team in the first 18 weeks, then have a lottery for who gets him each of the last 9 weeks?
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Ringo on September 25, 2016, 02:08:08 PM
Looks like every player is going to Collingwood - Do they have the space in their Salary Cap?.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Mat0369 on September 25, 2016, 02:09:41 PM
The thing is Judd also said Cloke to the dogs earlier in the year so he has a 100% strike rate so far. He basically said that Mitchell spent time growing up in Perth and played part of his junior footy at Claremont. He has mates out west still so they are also a draw.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Ricochet on September 25, 2016, 02:10:46 PM
Quote from: Ringo on September 25, 2016, 02:08:08 PM
Looks like every player is going to Collingwood - Do they have the space in their Salary Cap?.
Spite will be able to answer that one
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Mat0369 on September 25, 2016, 02:19:42 PM
Collingwood plan on having a paper bag payment system.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Torpedo10 on September 25, 2016, 02:55:09 PM
Quote from: Mat0369 on September 25, 2016, 02:19:42 PM
Collingwood plan on having a paper bag payment system.
Carlton-esque?
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: GoLions on September 25, 2016, 03:04:02 PM
Quote from: Mat0369 on September 25, 2016, 02:19:42 PM
Collingwood plan on having a paper bag payment system.
Ok <Player>, you can sign a contract at 300k a year, or you can trade it in for whatever is inside this box
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Mat0369 on September 25, 2016, 03:35:45 PM
Quote from: Torpedo10 on September 25, 2016, 02:55:09 PM
Carlton-esque?

Or Adelaide or Essendon

1996: Essendon Bombers (AFL)

A league and ATO investigation uncovered that the Essendon Bombers had breached the salary cap between 1991-1996. They were fined a total of $638,250: $250,000 in back tax and penalties, $112,000 for draft tampering and $276,250 for breaching the salary cap. They were made to forfeit their first-third round picks in the National Draft and were excluded from the 1997 rookie and pre-season drafts. They are the only AFL team judged to have breached the salary cap in a premiership year (1993).

Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Bill Manspeaker on September 25, 2016, 03:43:37 PM
Quote from: GoLions on September 25, 2016, 03:04:02 PM
Quote from: Mat0369 on September 25, 2016, 02:19:42 PM
Collingwood plan on having a paper bag payment system.
Ok <Player>, you can sign a contract at 300k a year, or you can trade it in for whatever is inside this box
a 300k contract is a 300k contract, but a box could be anything! it could even be a 300k contract! I'll take the box
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Torpedo10 on September 25, 2016, 04:05:07 PM
Quote from: Mat0369 on September 25, 2016, 03:35:45 PM
Quote from: Torpedo10 on September 25, 2016, 02:55:09 PM
Carlton-esque?

Or Adelaide or Essendon

1996: Essendon Bombers (AFL)

A league and ATO investigation uncovered that the Essendon Bombers had breached the salary cap between 1991-1996. They were fined a total of $638,250: $250,000 in back tax and penalties, $112,000 for draft tampering and $276,250 for breaching the salary cap. They were made to forfeit their first-third round picks in the National Draft and were excluded from the 1997 rookie and pre-season drafts. They are the only AFL team judged to have breached the salary cap in a premiership year (1993).
That's like associating Hawthorn with drug taking, but no one ever does.  :P
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Purple 77 on September 25, 2016, 05:06:57 PM
Quote from: GoLions on September 25, 2016, 03:04:02 PM
Quote from: Mat0369 on September 25, 2016, 02:19:42 PM
Collingwood plan on having a paper bag payment system.
Ok <Player>, you can sign a contract at 300k a year, or you can trade it in for whatever is inside this box

(http://vignette2.wikia.nocookie.net/simpsons/images/9/97/Mr_Burns_-_the_box.jpg/revision/latest?cb=20121215235014)
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Grazz on September 25, 2016, 06:42:59 PM
Quote from: Mat0369 on September 25, 2016, 03:35:45 PM
Quote from: Torpedo10 on September 25, 2016, 02:55:09 PM
Carlton-esque?

Or Adelaide or Essendon

1996: Essendon Bombers (AFL)

A league and ATO investigation uncovered that the Essendon Bombers had breached the salary cap between 1991-1996. They were fined a total of $638,250: $250,000 in back tax and penalties, $112,000 for draft tampering and $276,250 for breaching the salary cap. They were made to forfeit their first-third round picks in the National Draft and were excluded from the 1997 rookie and pre-season drafts. They are the only AFL team judged to have breached the salary cap in a premiership year (1993).

Crows didn't breach the salary cap, with the deal we had with Tippet we were still under the cap. :P
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: RaisyDaisy on September 26, 2016, 02:21:26 PM
Nice result for Essendon with Zerrett signing on til 2021
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: powersuperkents on September 26, 2016, 03:12:26 PM
Quote from: Grazz on September 25, 2016, 06:42:59 PM
Quote from: Mat0369 on September 25, 2016, 03:35:45 PM
Quote from: Torpedo10 on September 25, 2016, 02:55:09 PM
Carlton-esque?

Or Adelaide or Essendon

1996: Essendon Bombers (AFL)

A league and ATO investigation uncovered that the Essendon Bombers had breached the salary cap between 1991-1996. They were fined a total of $638,250: $250,000 in back tax and penalties, $112,000 for draft tampering and $276,250 for breaching the salary cap. They were made to forfeit their first-third round picks in the National Draft and were excluded from the 1997 rookie and pre-season drafts. They are the only AFL team judged to have breached the salary cap in a premiership year (1993).

Crows didn't breach the salary cap, with the deal we had with Tippet we were still under the cap. :P
Why were they punished then?

Not arguing, just genuinely interested because the AFL has, in the past, issued arbitrary punishments upon clubs for no reason whatsoever (e.g. the trading cap on the Swans for recruiting Buddy Franklin even though they didn't breach their salary cap, the COLA had nothing to do with their recruiting of him, and the club took the risk of having the smallest list in the comp. in order to acquire him).
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Spite on September 26, 2016, 05:03:36 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on September 25, 2016, 02:10:46 PM
Quote from: Ringo on September 25, 2016, 02:08:08 PM
Looks like every player is going to Collingwood - Do they have the space in their Salary Cap?.
Spite will be able to answer that one

Quote from: Mat0369 on September 25, 2016, 02:19:42 PM
Collingwood plan on having a paper bag payment system.

*Sigh*

Cloke 800k a year
Swan on big bucks per season
Don't have to pay for heath shaw anymore
Marley leaving
Witts leaving
Nathan brown likely gone

Please no one else comment on this again
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Ringo on September 26, 2016, 05:19:34 PM
That only accounts for 2m.  Players associated with pies will command upward of 2.5m
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: shaker on September 26, 2016, 05:32:42 PM
When I posted a long while ago about Cloke playing in the 2's on 800K Pie supporters were quick to say that his last year was only going to cost 450K ?
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Spite on September 26, 2016, 11:27:15 PM
Quote from: shaker on September 26, 2016, 05:32:42 PM
When I posted a long while ago about Cloke playing in the 2's on 800K Pie supporters were quick to say that his last year was only going to cost 450K ?

Yeah last year is 500k for Cloke.
Swan was about 800k.

Marley, Witts and Brown will be about 300k average. Heath Shaw I can't honestly recall but for memory it's like 150k.

That's over 2.3m.

Quote from: Ringo on September 26, 2016, 05:19:34 PM
That only accounts for 2m.  Players associated with pies will command upward of 2.5m

Over 2.3m mentioned above, where are you getting 2.5m from? Regardless with front/back ending of contracts, surely everyone can understand that the money is there and can leave it alone now
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Ringo on September 27, 2016, 08:26:01 AM
Quote from: Spite on September 26, 2016, 11:27:15 PM
Quote from: shaker on September 26, 2016, 05:32:42 PM
When I posted a long while ago about Cloke playing in the 2's on 800K Pie supporters were quick to say that his last year was only going to cost 450K ?

Yeah last year is 500k for Cloke.
Swan was about 800k.

Marley, Witts and Brown will be about 300k average. Heath Shaw I can't honestly recall but for memory it's like 150k.

That's over 2.3m.

Quote from: Ringo on September 26, 2016, 05:19:34 PM
That only accounts for 2m.  Players associated with pies will command upward of 2.5m

Over 2.3m mentioned above, where are you getting 2.5m from? Regardless with front/back ending of contracts, surely everyone can understand that the money is there and can leave it alone now
Bit of fun Spite - It is just every time I pick up a paper or go on line it seems every player that is leaving a club is linked with Collingwood. Know you will not get them all.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: shaker on September 27, 2016, 09:35:52 AM
Reported on talking footy last night Pies deal for Mayne 2 million for 4 years  :o don't know what they see in him and Wells offered 2 year deal with a trigger for a third , no one on the show could understand why the Pies are going down this path only it looked like a last ditch effort to get them in the finals to save Buckley's butt
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: elephants on September 27, 2016, 09:52:51 AM
Can someone please explain in detail how the Pies have so much money? Preferably a Pies supporter, maybe Spite if you have a chance mate?
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: PowerBug on September 27, 2016, 11:21:20 AM
Quote from: elephants on September 27, 2016, 09:52:51 AM
Can someone please explain in detail how the Pies have so much money? Preferably a Pies supporter, maybe Spite if you have a chance mate?
Literally two posts above yours ele ;) Unless you tink they have more than that? :o

Eddie has come out and said finals won't determine Buckleys fate but geez he'd be a lucky man to miss finals and keep his job you'd reckon.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: elephants on September 27, 2016, 11:35:58 AM
Quote from: PowerBug on September 27, 2016, 11:21:20 AM
Quote from: elephants on September 27, 2016, 09:52:51 AM
Can someone please explain in detail how the Pies have so much money? Preferably a Pies supporter, maybe Spite if you have a chance mate?
Literally two posts above yours ele ;) Unless you tink they have more than that? :o

Haha I'm taking the piss mate :P
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: jvalles69 on September 27, 2016, 11:56:48 AM
Quote from: PowerBug on September 27, 2016, 11:21:20 AM
Quote from: elephants on September 27, 2016, 09:52:51 AM
Can someone please explain in detail how the Pies have so much money? Preferably a Pies supporter, maybe Spite if you have a chance mate?
Literally two posts above yours ele ;) Unless you tink they have more than that? :o

Eddie has come out and said finals won't determine Buckleys fate but geez he'd be a lucky man to miss finals and keep his job you'd reckon.

Hardwick is still the luckiest man in the AFL coaching world...
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Big Mac on September 27, 2016, 02:03:53 PM
Quote from: elephants on September 27, 2016, 09:52:51 AM
Can someone please explain in detail how the Pies have so much money? Preferably a Pies supporter, maybe Spite if you have a chance mate?

;D
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Bill Manspeaker on September 27, 2016, 02:06:50 PM
Quote from: PowerBug on September 27, 2016, 11:21:20 AM
Quote from: elephants on September 27, 2016, 09:52:51 AM
Can someone please explain in detail how the Pies have so much money? Preferably a Pies supporter, maybe Spite if you have a chance mate?
Literally two posts above yours ele ;) Unless you tink they have more than that? :o

Eddie has come out and said finals won't determine Buckleys fate but geez he'd be a lucky man to miss finals and keep his job you'd reckon.
come on PB :P
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: PowerBug on September 27, 2016, 02:41:19 PM
I COULDNT TELL THE SARCASM MY BAD IT SOUNDED SO GENUINE :'(
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: GoLions on September 27, 2016, 03:31:20 PM
Quote from: PowerBug on September 27, 2016, 02:41:19 PM
I COULDNT TELL THE SARCASM MY BAD IT SOUNDED SO GENUINE :'(
Should always assume that anything said by ele or myself is 100% shower-talking ahaha
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: kilbluff1985 on September 27, 2016, 03:49:08 PM
Quote from: PowerBug on September 27, 2016, 02:41:19 PM
I COULDNT TELL THE SARCASM MY BAD IT SOUNDED SO GENUINE :'(

bruh you had a KB moment
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Holz on September 27, 2016, 05:23:57 PM
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on September 27, 2016, 03:49:08 PM
Quote from: PowerBug on September 27, 2016, 02:41:19 PM
I COULDNT TELL THE SARCASM MY BAD IT SOUNDED SO GENUINE :'(

bruh you had a KB moment

hey back off KB, he is an alright bloke.

dont worry KB i have your back.

Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Purple 77 on September 27, 2016, 05:52:48 PM
Interesting if true

http://www.fantasyfootballnuts.org/jack-darling-leaving-the-eagles-nest/
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: meow meow on September 27, 2016, 06:00:42 PM
Lobb to WC
Darling + a pick to Essen do
1 to GWS
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: iZander on September 27, 2016, 06:01:03 PM
Quote from: Purple 77 on September 27, 2016, 05:52:48 PM
Interesting if true

http://www.fantasyfootballnuts.org/jack-darling-leaving-the-eagles-nest/

haha did i not say he was coming to the dons?? ;)

Patton, Daniher, Darling...perfect :D
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Nige on September 27, 2016, 06:37:58 PM
http://www.zerohanger.com/just-in-five-cats-delisted-7735/

Geelong has delisted Zac Bates, Cameron Delaney, Padraig Lucey, Tom Read and Jock Cornell.

Also, as Purps posted in the Melbourne board, Melbourne won't be offering Matt Jones, Dean Terlich or Jack Grimes new contracts.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Purple 77 on September 27, 2016, 06:41:43 PM
As I also said in the Melbourne board, harsh on Matt "the changed man" Jones  :(

I would have thought, given that we'll likely enter the draft in the third round, that Matt Jones would have been needed as a solid depth option, but ah well. 2016 was his best season IMO
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Toga on September 27, 2016, 06:42:14 PM
Yeah pretty harsh on Matty Jones I think!
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: RaisyDaisy on September 27, 2016, 08:45:05 PM
Quote from: Purple 77 on September 27, 2016, 05:52:48 PM
Interesting if true

http://www.fantasyfootballnuts.org/jack-darling-leaving-the-eagles-nest/

This one's been doing the rounds for a while now. WCE have said we aren't trading him, but I guess will find out in due course
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: elephants on September 27, 2016, 08:47:32 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on September 27, 2016, 08:45:05 PM
Quote from: Purple 77 on September 27, 2016, 05:52:48 PM
Interesting if true

http://www.fantasyfootballnuts.org/jack-darling-leaving-the-eagles-nest/

This one's been doing the rounds for a while now. WCE have said we aren't trading him, but I guess will find out in due course

Would rather keep him but I feel like he's got some reasonable market value and if we can get a good midfielder for him I'd be non-plussed.

Quote from: GoLions on September 27, 2016, 03:31:20 PM
Quote from: PowerBug on September 27, 2016, 02:41:19 PM
I COULDNT TELL THE SARCASM MY BAD IT SOUNDED SO GENUINE :'(
Should always assume that anything said by ele or myself is 100% shower-talking ahaha

Haha so true, I haven't made a legit FF post in years
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Scrads on September 27, 2016, 09:14:22 PM
I just don't understand how Collingwood have the salary room to supposedly be chasing all these players??
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Purple 77 on September 27, 2016, 09:17:05 PM
Quote from: Scrads on September 27, 2016, 09:14:22 PM
I just don't understand how Collingwood have the salary room to supposedly be chasing all these players??

It's doin my head in too
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Ricochet on September 27, 2016, 09:21:50 PM
Surely they're cheating the system. It just doesn't add up
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: kilbluff1985 on September 27, 2016, 09:22:27 PM
they obviously wont get them all but if you're in the running for them all you hope to get a couple at least

Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: elephants on September 27, 2016, 09:22:38 PM
So many of their players have tattoos so something must be up there, they're basically all criminals.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Ricochet on September 27, 2016, 09:30:52 PM
Quote from: Purple 77 on September 27, 2016, 09:17:05 PM
Quote from: Scrads on September 27, 2016, 09:14:22 PM
I just don't understand how Collingwood have the salary room to supposedly be chasing all these players??

It's doin my head in too
I'm sure someone like Spite could explain it for us
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Purple 77 on September 27, 2016, 09:31:56 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on September 27, 2016, 09:30:52 PM
Quote from: Purple 77 on September 27, 2016, 09:17:05 PM
Quote from: Scrads on September 27, 2016, 09:14:22 PM
I just don't understand how Collingwood have the salary room to supposedly be chasing all these players??

It's doin my head in too
I'm sure someone like Spite could explain it for us

I hope so.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Koop on September 27, 2016, 09:33:54 PM
Quote from: Purple 77 on September 27, 2016, 09:31:56 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on September 27, 2016, 09:30:52 PM
Quote from: Purple 77 on September 27, 2016, 09:17:05 PM
Quote from: Scrads on September 27, 2016, 09:14:22 PM
I just don't understand how Collingwood have the salary room to supposedly be chasing all these players??

It's doin my head in too
I'm sure someone like Spite could explain it for us

I hope so.
It would really provide some much needed clarity regarding the situation.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: kilbluff1985 on September 27, 2016, 09:37:38 PM
(http://imgur.com/MvCsse8.jpg)
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Purple 77 on September 27, 2016, 09:40:38 PM
(http://image.prntscr.com/image/f4b9086389a14670b0bb12ffae28d474.png)
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Nige on September 27, 2016, 10:36:39 PM
mrw Collingwood are linked to and signing literally everyone. (http://i.imgur.com/0mw1I8e.gif)
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Vinny on September 28, 2016, 12:17:45 AM
Quote from: Koop on September 27, 2016, 09:33:54 PM
Quote from: Purple 77 on September 27, 2016, 09:31:56 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on September 27, 2016, 09:30:52 PM
Quote from: Purple 77 on September 27, 2016, 09:17:05 PM
Quote from: Scrads on September 27, 2016, 09:14:22 PM
I just don't understand how Collingwood have the salary room to supposedly be chasing all these players??

It's doin my head in too
I'm sure someone like Spite could explain it for us

I hope so.
It would really provide some much needed clarity regarding the situation.
Sorry, have you signed your permission slip to speak on this issue and returned it to Mr Spite?
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Koop on September 28, 2016, 12:20:03 AM
Quote from: Vinny on September 28, 2016, 12:17:45 AM
Quote from: Koop on September 27, 2016, 09:33:54 PM
Quote from: Purple 77 on September 27, 2016, 09:31:56 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on September 27, 2016, 09:30:52 PM
Quote from: Purple 77 on September 27, 2016, 09:17:05 PM
Quote from: Scrads on September 27, 2016, 09:14:22 PM
I just don't understand how Collingwood have the salary room to supposedly be chasing all these players??

It's doin my head in too
I'm sure someone like Spite could explain it for us

I hope so.
It would really provide some much needed clarity regarding the situation.
Sorry, have you signed your permission slip to speak on this issue and returned it to Mr Spite?
flower
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Grazz on September 28, 2016, 08:23:00 AM
Quote from: powersuperkents on September 26, 2016, 03:12:26 PM
Quote from: Grazz on September 25, 2016, 06:42:59 PM
Quote from: Mat0369 on September 25, 2016, 03:35:45 PM
Quote from: Torpedo10 on September 25, 2016, 02:55:09 PM
Carlton-esque?

Or Adelaide or Essendon

1996: Essendon Bombers (AFL)

A league and ATO investigation uncovered that the Essendon Bombers had breached the salary cap between 1991-1996. They were fined a total of $638,250: $250,000 in back tax and penalties, $112,000 for draft tampering and $276,250 for breaching the salary cap. They were made to forfeit their first-third round picks in the National Draft and were excluded from the 1997 rookie and pre-season drafts. They are the only AFL team judged to have breached the salary cap in a premiership year (1993).

Crows didn't breach the salary cap, with the deal we had with Tippet we were still under the cap. :P
Why were they punished then?

Not arguing, just genuinely interested because the AFL has, in the past, issued arbitrary punishments upon clubs for no reason whatsoever (e.g. the trading cap on the Swans for recruiting Buddy Franklin even though they didn't breach their salary cap, the COLA had nothing to do with their recruiting of him, and the club took the risk of having the smallest list in the comp. in order to acquire him).

The contract wasn't sanctioned by the AFL ie signed off by them. Which makes it all the more stupid by the club tbh.
All contracts must be sanctioned and signed off by the AFL hence the punishment, we deserved it no denying that and it makes the club look pretty dumb. Personally i've never understood why we wouldn't of done it all above board as it looks awfully suspicious but the AFL went through every other players contract and found everything was ok apart from this secondary deal with Tippett. Very disappointing as a supporter because once you're tarnished by something like that it never goes away really does it.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Dudge on September 28, 2016, 03:10:21 PM
Quote from: Grazz on September 28, 2016, 08:23:00 AM
Quote from: powersuperkents on September 26, 2016, 03:12:26 PM
Quote from: Grazz on September 25, 2016, 06:42:59 PM
Quote from: Mat0369 on September 25, 2016, 03:35:45 PM
Quote from: Torpedo10 on September 25, 2016, 02:55:09 PM
Carlton-esque?

Or Adelaide or Essendon

1996: Essendon Bombers (AFL)

A league and ATO investigation uncovered that the Essendon Bombers had breached the salary cap between 1991-1996. They were fined a total of $638,250: $250,000 in back tax and penalties, $112,000 for draft tampering and $276,250 for breaching the salary cap. They were made to forfeit their first-third round picks in the National Draft and were excluded from the 1997 rookie and pre-season drafts. They are the only AFL team judged to have breached the salary cap in a premiership year (1993).

Crows didn't breach the salary cap, with the deal we had with Tippet we were still under the cap. :P
Why were they punished then?

Not arguing, just genuinely interested because the AFL has, in the past, issued arbitrary punishments upon clubs for no reason whatsoever (e.g. the trading cap on the Swans for recruiting Buddy Franklin even though they didn't breach their salary cap, the COLA had nothing to do with their recruiting of him, and the club took the risk of having the smallest list in the comp. in order to acquire him).

The contract wasn't sanctioned by the AFL ie signed off by them. Which makes it all the more stupid by the club tbh.
All contracts must be sanctioned and signed off by the AFL hence the punishment, we deserved it no denying that and it makes the club look pretty dumb. Personally i've never understood why we wouldn't of done it all above board as it looks awfully suspicious but the AFL went through every other players contract and found everything was ok apart from this secondary deal with Tippett. Very disappointing as a supporter because once you're tarnished by something like that it never goes away really does it.

Once a cheat, always a cheat ;)

A leopard doesn't change it's spots :P
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Ricochet on September 28, 2016, 03:34:48 PM

http://www.afl.com.au/news/2016-09-28/culled-roo-waiting-on-eagles-decision

QuoteRELEASED North Melbourne veteran Drew Petrie has confirmed his interest in a move to West Coast, but he doesn't expect to know his future for another few weeks.

The Eagles are considering Petrie as a replacement for injured ruckman Nic Naitanui, who will miss at least the majority of the 2017 season after surgery on a ruptured ACL.

And Petrie believes he would be up to the task if required.

"They haven't given me any guarantees," he told Melbourne radio station SEN.

"They've scoped out my level of interest, and I think they've got a few other players that they've got their eye on.

"I think it's going to be a few weeks before they give me any guarantees or certainties, but I'm feeling OK at the moment."

Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: GoLions on September 28, 2016, 03:38:16 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on September 28, 2016, 03:34:48 PM

http://www.afl.com.au/news/2016-09-28/culled-roo-waiting-on-eagles-decision

QuoteRELEASED North Melbourne veteran Drew Petrie has confirmed his interest in a move to West Coast, but he doesn't expect to know his future for another few weeks.

The Eagles are considering Petrie as a replacement for injured ruckman Nic Naitanui, who will miss at least the majority of the 2017 season after surgery on a ruptured ACL.

And Petrie believes he would be up to the task if required.

"They haven't given me any guarantees," he told Melbourne radio station SEN.

"They've scoped out my level of interest, and I think they've got a few other players that they've got their eye on.

"I think it's going to be a few weeks before they give me any guarantees or certainties, but I'm feeling OK at the moment."

What is this going to mean for the Pies cap though? Spite?
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Koop on September 28, 2016, 03:45:14 PM
Quote from: GoLions on September 28, 2016, 03:38:16 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on September 28, 2016, 03:34:48 PM

http://www.afl.com.au/news/2016-09-28/culled-roo-waiting-on-eagles-decision

QuoteRELEASED North Melbourne veteran Drew Petrie has confirmed his interest in a move to West Coast, but he doesn't expect to know his future for another few weeks.

The Eagles are considering Petrie as a replacement for injured ruckman Nic Naitanui, who will miss at least the majority of the 2017 season after surgery on a ruptured ACL.

And Petrie believes he would be up to the task if required.

"They haven't given me any guarantees," he told Melbourne radio station SEN.

"They've scoped out my level of interest, and I think they've got a few other players that they've got their eye on.

"I think it's going to be a few weeks before they give me any guarantees or certainties, but I'm feeling OK at the moment."

What is this going to mean for the Pies cap though? Spite?

Would be really intrigued to hear his thoughts on this at the moment!
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: PowerBug on September 28, 2016, 03:55:23 PM
Come on guys no more baiting please, that'll do :)


Vardy linked with a move to Port Adelaide as Ryder/Lobbe insurance. Could see himself playing tall fwd too with behind Dixon and ahead of Westhoff if a move does happen. Undergoing a medical and then it'll be off to the trade period, shouldn't cost more than our 4th rounder hopefully the bloke has barely played!!
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: kilbluff1985 on September 28, 2016, 04:07:19 PM
Quote from: PowerBug on September 28, 2016, 03:55:23 PM
Come on guys no more baiting please, that'll do :)


Harambe was baited
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Nige on September 28, 2016, 04:20:28 PM
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on September 28, 2016, 04:07:19 PM
Quote from: PowerBug on September 28, 2016, 03:55:23 PM
Come on guys no more baiting please, that'll do :)


Harambe was baited
Harambe wasn't baited, he was murdered in cold blood!
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: RaisyDaisy on September 29, 2016, 08:50:22 AM
Quote from: PowerBug on September 28, 2016, 03:55:23 PM
Come on guys no more baiting please, that'll do :)


Vardy linked with a move to Port Adelaide as Ryder/Lobbe insurance. Could see himself playing tall fwd too with behind Dixon and ahead of Westhoff if a move does happen. Undergoing a medical and then it'll be off to the trade period, shouldn't cost more than our 4th rounder hopefully the bloke has barely played!!

Looks like Lobbe wants out now after being told that Ryder will be the number one guy

Bet his spewing he knocked back the Dogs 5 year offer last year!
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Pkbaldy on September 29, 2016, 10:17:57 AM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on September 29, 2016, 08:50:22 AM
Quote from: PowerBug on September 28, 2016, 03:55:23 PM
Come on guys no more baiting please, that'll do :)


Vardy linked with a move to Port Adelaide as Ryder/Lobbe insurance. Could see himself playing tall fwd too with behind Dixon and ahead of Westhoff if a move does happen. Undergoing a medical and then it'll be off to the trade period, shouldn't cost more than our 4th rounder hopefully the bloke has barely played!!

Looks like Lobbe wants out now after being told that Ryder will be the number one guy

Bet his spewing he knocked back the Dogs 5 year offer last year!

I reckon hes screwed. Roughy would probably wipe the floor with him.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: RaisyDaisy on September 29, 2016, 10:28:58 AM
Apparently he wants to go to a club where he will be the number 1 ruck

I think GC, Richmond and 2 other clubs where mentioned as possibilities
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Holz on September 29, 2016, 11:58:15 AM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on September 29, 2016, 10:28:58 AM
Apparently he wants to go to a club where he will be the number 1 ruck

I think GC, Richmond and 2 other clubs where mentioned as possibilities

If he wants to go to a club where he is the number 1 Ruck maybe he should try.

Frankston, North Ballarat, Weribee or Box Hill.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Ricochet on September 29, 2016, 12:03:29 PM
Quote from: Holz on September 29, 2016, 11:58:15 AM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on September 29, 2016, 10:28:58 AM
Apparently he wants to go to a club where he will be the number 1 ruck

I think GC, Richmond and 2 other clubs where mentioned as possibilities

If he wants to go to a club where he is the number 1 Ruck maybe he should try.

Frankston, North Ballarat, Weribee or Box Hill.
At frankston not only will he be the only ruck but he'll be the only player at the moment
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Nige on September 29, 2016, 12:19:53 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on September 29, 2016, 12:03:29 PM
Quote from: Holz on September 29, 2016, 11:58:15 AM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on September 29, 2016, 10:28:58 AM
Apparently he wants to go to a club where he will be the number 1 ruck

I think GC, Richmond and 2 other clubs where mentioned as possibilities

If he wants to go to a club where he is the number 1 Ruck maybe he should try.

Frankston, North Ballarat, Weribee or Box Hill.
At frankston not only will he be the only ruck but he'll be the only player at the moment
Hahaha, not wrong!
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Holz on September 29, 2016, 12:27:52 PM
Quote from: Nige on September 29, 2016, 12:19:53 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on September 29, 2016, 12:03:29 PM
Quote from: Holz on September 29, 2016, 11:58:15 AM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on September 29, 2016, 10:28:58 AM
Apparently he wants to go to a club where he will be the number 1 ruck

I think GC, Richmond and 2 other clubs where mentioned as possibilities

If he wants to go to a club where he is the number 1 Ruck maybe he should try.

Frankston, North Ballarat, Weribee or Box Hill.
At frankston not only will he be the only ruck but he'll be the only player at the moment
Hahaha, not wrong!

hey at least he is the number 1 ruck.

Frankston will be around just not in the VFL.

good call though Rcio
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: valkorum on September 29, 2016, 01:46:06 PM
ESPN reporting that Bryce Gibbs is open to a trade to Adelaide
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: elephants on September 29, 2016, 01:51:42 PM
Quote from: valkorum on September 29, 2016, 01:46:06 PM
ESPN reporting that Bryce Gibbs is open to a trade to Adelaide

Might be that midfielder the Crows need. His first 12 rounds this season were nothing short of elite.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Jay on September 29, 2016, 02:15:44 PM
Quote from: valkorum on September 29, 2016, 01:46:06 PM
ESPN reporting that Bryce Gibbs is open to a trade to Adelaide
Would love this.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: jvalles69 on September 29, 2016, 02:17:57 PM
Quote from: valkorum on September 29, 2016, 01:46:06 PM
ESPN reporting that Bryce Gibbs is open to a trade to Adelaide

Didn't he knock them back a few years ago by re-signing with Carlton?
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: meow meow on September 29, 2016, 03:17:43 PM
Quote from: jvalles69 on September 29, 2016, 02:17:57 PM
Quote from: valkorum on September 29, 2016, 01:46:06 PM
ESPN reporting that Bryce Gibbs is open to a trade to Adelaide

Didn't he knock them back a few years ago by re-signing with Carlton?

He's 2 years into a 5 year deal. At 600k a season the Crows should be able to easily pick that up.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Jay on September 29, 2016, 03:32:00 PM
Quote from: meow meow on September 29, 2016, 03:17:43 PM
Quote from: jvalles69 on September 29, 2016, 02:17:57 PM
Quote from: valkorum on September 29, 2016, 01:46:06 PM
ESPN reporting that Bryce Gibbs is open to a trade to Adelaide

Didn't he knock them back a few years ago by re-signing with Carlton?

He's 2 years into a 5 year deal. At 600k a season the Crows should be able to easily pick that up.
Can someone explain how Adelaide would have the space to fit Gibbs in after just re-signing both Crouch and Jenkins? Surely only Collingwood would have enough space.. Or are they capped out?
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: kilbluff1985 on September 29, 2016, 03:33:26 PM
someone please explain l
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Ricochet on September 29, 2016, 03:34:35 PM
Quote from: Jay on September 29, 2016, 03:32:00 PM
Quote from: meow meow on September 29, 2016, 03:17:43 PM
Quote from: jvalles69 on September 29, 2016, 02:17:57 PM
Quote from: valkorum on September 29, 2016, 01:46:06 PM
ESPN reporting that Bryce Gibbs is open to a trade to Adelaide

Didn't he knock them back a few years ago by re-signing with Carlton?

He's 2 years into a 5 year deal. At 600k a season the Crows should be able to easily pick that up.
Can someone explain how Adelaide would have the space to fit Gibbs in after just re-signing both Crouch and Jenkins? Surely only Collingwood would have enough space.. Or are they capped out?
;D ;D
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: kilbluff1985 on September 29, 2016, 03:46:13 PM
Richmond, North Melbourne, Brisbane and the Gold Coast Suns are reportedly interested in out of favour Western Bulldogs ruckman Will Minson.
Minson is out of contract at the end of the season.

:o
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Ricochet on September 29, 2016, 03:47:39 PM
North Melbourne? They're going into a rebuild
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: GoLions on September 29, 2016, 03:49:04 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on September 29, 2016, 03:47:39 PM
North Melbourne? They're going into a rebuild
Dunno why we'd be interested either...? Tiges and Suns I can understand.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Koop on September 29, 2016, 03:58:58 PM
Quote from: GoLions on September 29, 2016, 03:49:04 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on September 29, 2016, 03:47:39 PM
North Melbourne? They're going into a rebuild
Dunno why we'd be interested either...? Tiges and Suns I can understand.

It's because you have this fine specimen.  ;D

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Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: meow meow on September 29, 2016, 04:07:20 PM
Pretty obvious that North want Daw up forward so Wilbur would be insurance to Goldy.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: elephants on September 29, 2016, 04:11:15 PM
Quote from: meow meow on September 29, 2016, 04:07:20 PM
Pretty obvious that North want Daw up forward so Wilbur would be insurance to Goldy.

Surely Wilbur > Goldy though? Seems weird. Maybe Goldy to spend some time in the 2's until Wilbur has had enough.

Quote from: valkorum on September 29, 2016, 01:46:06 PM
ESPN reporting that Bryce Gibbs is open to a trade to Adelaide

Gibbs' management just flat out denied there was any communication with Adelaide.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: meow meow on September 29, 2016, 04:13:37 PM
Maybe North plan on trading both Goldy and Daw.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Money Shot on September 29, 2016, 04:15:55 PM
Quote from: meow meow on September 29, 2016, 04:13:37 PM
Maybe North plan on trading both Goldy and Daw.
Heard rumours that both were being delisted as they are good players.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Ricochet on September 29, 2016, 04:16:21 PM
Quote from: elephants on September 29, 2016, 04:11:15 PM
Quote from: valkorum on September 29, 2016, 01:46:06 PM
ESPN reporting that Bryce Gibbs is open to a trade to Adelaide

Gibbs' management just flat out denied there was any communication with Adelaide.
Although that's not from lack of trying...

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Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: My Chumps on September 29, 2016, 04:18:55 PM
North to trade Goldy for the highest bidder, Wilbur to ruck while Durdin develops
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Nige on September 29, 2016, 04:38:33 PM
And that highest bidder would almost certainly be the club seeking a perfect ruck partner for Brodie Grundy yeah?
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: kilbluff1985 on September 29, 2016, 04:39:32 PM
i would rather Brent Harvey doing the ruck than Minson
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Holz on September 29, 2016, 04:47:30 PM
Quote from: My Chumps on September 29, 2016, 04:18:55 PM
North to trade Goldy for the highest bidder, Wilbur to ruck while Durdin develops

I know/hope your joking.

1. Goldy will not be traded he is the best ruck in the comp and will show that next year when healthy.
2. Will Minson will be insurance if Goldy gets injured as Daw is developing into a forward who pinch hits in the ruck.
3. Sam Durdin will likely be playing as a forward or a defender if we get injuries on those lines. The guy is only 198cm 94kg he isnt big enough to be a ruck and has been playing up forward and down back in the 2s.
4. Brayden Preuss i reckon is our long term ruck, he is a monster, 206cm and 107kg he is already 5cm taller and 4kg heavier then Todd and apparently in drills he can match him in strength. He is playing as the main ruck in the 2s.



Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: TomK on September 29, 2016, 05:29:51 PM
Quote from: valkorum on September 29, 2016, 01:46:06 PM
ESPN reporting that Bryce Gibbs is open to a trade to Adelaide
I swear these Gibbs rumours come up every year
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Big Mac on September 29, 2016, 05:38:58 PM
Quote from: Holz on September 29, 2016, 04:47:30 PM
Quote from: My Chumps on September 29, 2016, 04:18:55 PM
North to trade Goldy for the highest bidder, Wilbur to ruck while Durdin develops

I know/hope your joking.

1. Goldy will not be traded he is the best ruck in the comp and will show that next year when healthy.
2. Will Minson will be insurance if Goldy gets injured as Daw is developing into a forward who pinch hits in the ruck.
3. Sam Durdin will likely be playing as a forward or a defender if we get injuries on those lines. The guy is only 198cm 94kg he isnt big enough to be a ruck and has been playing up forward and down back in the 2s.
4. Brayden Preuss i reckon is our long term ruck, he is a monster, 206cm and 107kg he is already 5cm taller and 4kg heavier then Todd and apparently in drills he can match him in strength. He is playing as the main ruck in the 2s.

Still doesn't explain how the crows would have enough cap space
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Levi434 on September 29, 2016, 05:42:15 PM
Quote from: Holz on September 29, 2016, 04:47:30 PM
1. Goldy will not be traded he is the best ruck in the comp and will show that next year when healthy.

Ahhh Tim English mate.

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I know he'll be good cause English was my fave subject.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Nige on September 29, 2016, 06:38:12 PM
Quote from: Levi434 on September 29, 2016, 05:42:15 PM
I know he'll be good cause English was my fave subject.
Damn man, me too!
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: tbagrocks on September 29, 2016, 07:08:55 PM
Quote from: Nige on September 29, 2016, 06:38:12 PM
Quote from: Levi434 on September 29, 2016, 05:42:15 PM
I know he'll be good cause English was my fave subject.
Damn man, me too!
I never found anything more boring ;)
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Nige on September 29, 2016, 07:27:51 PM
Quote from: tbagrocks on September 29, 2016, 07:08:55 PM
Quote from: Nige on September 29, 2016, 06:38:12 PM
Quote from: Levi434 on September 29, 2016, 05:42:15 PM
I know he'll be good cause English was my fave subject.
Damn man, me too!
I never found anything more boring ;)
I would never have guessed.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Koop on September 29, 2016, 07:47:27 PM
Quote from: TomK on September 29, 2016, 05:29:51 PM
Quote from: valkorum on September 29, 2016, 01:46:06 PM
ESPN reporting that Bryce Gibbs is open to a trade to Adelaide
I swear these Gibbs rumours come up every year
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Mat0369 on September 29, 2016, 09:36:06 PM
Quote from: valkorum on September 29, 2016, 01:46:06 PM
ESPN reporting that Bryce Gibbs is open to a trade to Adelaide

Quote from: TomK on September 29, 2016, 05:29:51 PM
I swear these Gibbs rumours come up every year

Pretty much this, they are brought up every year but nothing eventuates. He is happy in Melbourne and at Carlton. He has had big money offers from both clubs and took less to stay at Carlton. It would take a Godfather offer to get him out but for some reason the media brings this up every year even though he hasn't been shopped.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: TomK on September 29, 2016, 10:02:28 PM
Quote from: Mat0369 on September 29, 2016, 09:36:06 PM
Quote from: valkorum on September 29, 2016, 01:46:06 PM
ESPN reporting that Bryce Gibbs is open to a trade to Adelaide

Quote from: TomK on September 29, 2016, 05:29:51 PM
I swear these Gibbs rumours come up every year

Pretty much this, they are brought up every year but nothing eventuates. He is happy in Melbourne and at Carlton. He has had big money offers from both clubs and took less to stay at Carlton. It would take a Godfather offer to get him out but for some reason the media brings this up every year even though he hasn't been shopped.
Yeah that's how I'm reading it. Bit of talk his wife is homesick but doubt he'll move. I can dream though :)
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Mat0369 on September 29, 2016, 10:09:11 PM
Quote from: TomK on September 29, 2016, 10:02:28 PM
Yeah that's how I'm reading it. Bit of talk his wife is homesick but doubt he'll move. I can dream though :)

The best ones were after his B&F season. He buys a million dollar home 5 minutes from Ikon Park, media is adamant he is going to Adelaide. The other issue is what can Adelaide actually give Carlton to get him over? You aren't giving up Lever, I don't think Carlton would be taking picks in the mid teens. I can't see it happening at all.  You can have Daisy if you want though.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Vinny on September 29, 2016, 10:09:55 PM
Sorry gents, I don't think Spite has given you permission to speak on this issue yet so I'm gonna have to ask you to stop.

In the mean time, anyone know how Collingwood have salary cap space to sign all these players?
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: TomK on September 29, 2016, 10:19:07 PM
Quote from: Mat0369 on September 29, 2016, 10:09:11 PM
The best ones were after his B&F season. He buys a million dollar home 5 minutes from Ikon Park, media is adamant he is going to Adelaide. The other issue is what can Adelaide actually give Carlton to get him over? You aren't giving up Lever, I don't think Carlton would be taking picks in the mid teens. I can't see it happening at all.  You can have Daisy if you want though.
Bickley was saying Pick 13 and Lyons. Mitch Grigg straight swap for Daisy? ;D
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Mat0369 on September 29, 2016, 10:46:04 PM
Quote from: TomK on September 29, 2016, 10:19:07 PM
Bickley was saying Pick 13 and Lyons. Mitch Grigg straight swap for Daisy? ;D

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Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Jay on September 29, 2016, 11:06:03 PM
Quote from: TomK on September 29, 2016, 10:19:07 PM
Quote from: Mat0369 on September 29, 2016, 10:09:11 PM
The best ones were after his B&F season. He buys a million dollar home 5 minutes from Ikon Park, media is adamant he is going to Adelaide. The other issue is what can Adelaide actually give Carlton to get him over? You aren't giving up Lever, I don't think Carlton would be taking picks in the mid teens. I can't see it happening at all.  You can have Daisy if you want though.
Bickley was saying Pick 13 and Lyons. Mitch Grigg straight swap for Daisy? ;D
No way I'd even do that tbh.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Mat0369 on September 29, 2016, 11:23:05 PM
Quote from: Jay on September 29, 2016, 11:06:03 PM
No way I'd even do that tbh.

I'd take your worst player for Daisy just to free up the cap space.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Mat0369 on September 29, 2016, 11:39:34 PM
Collingwood are after another in Boomer.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: elephants on September 29, 2016, 11:40:47 PM
Lyons + Grigg + CEY + Pick 13
For
Gibbs + Daisy

Probably never happen but it works for both parties I reckon and Kerridge + Wright have turned out pretty damn good.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: fanTCfool on September 29, 2016, 11:48:16 PM
I'm keen on Lyons and Grigg to come to the Blues, I'll give you Daisy + Pick 23 for Lyons + Grigg  ;)
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: elephants on September 30, 2016, 12:13:17 AM
Quote from: fanTCfool on September 29, 2016, 11:48:16 PM
I'm keen on Lyons and Grigg to come to the Blues, I'll give you Daisy + Pick 23 for Lyons + Grigg  ;)

Hahaha factor in Daisy's age/injury history...

Lyons > Daisy
Grigg > Daisy :P
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Spite on September 30, 2016, 12:49:16 AM
Quote from: Mat0369 on September 29, 2016, 11:39:34 PM
Collingwood are after another in Boomer.

We don't have the salary space for this wee specimen
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: kilbluff1985 on September 30, 2016, 01:54:59 AM
Quote from: Spite on September 30, 2016, 12:49:16 AM
Quote from: Mat0369 on September 29, 2016, 11:39:34 PM
Collingwood are after another in Boomer.

We don't have the salary space for this wee specimen

why not?

please explain
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Ricochet on September 30, 2016, 09:12:03 AM
Quote from: Spite on September 30, 2016, 12:49:16 AM
Quote from: Mat0369 on September 29, 2016, 11:39:34 PM
Collingwood are after another in Boomer.

We don't have the salary space for this wee specimen
Hahaha :D
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Grazz on September 30, 2016, 09:31:46 AM
Quote from: Jay on September 29, 2016, 03:32:00 PM
Quote from: meow meow on September 29, 2016, 03:17:43 PM
Quote from: jvalles69 on September 29, 2016, 02:17:57 PM
Quote from: valkorum on September 29, 2016, 01:46:06 PM
ESPN reporting that Bryce Gibbs is open to a trade to Adelaide

Didn't he knock them back a few years ago by re-signing with Carlton?

He's 2 years into a 5 year deal. At 600k a season the Crows should be able to easily pick that up.
Can someone explain how Adelaide would have the space to fit Gibbs in after just re-signing both Crouch and Jenkins? Surely only Collingwood would have enough space.. Or are they capped out?

Danger would of been on decent cash.
Crows by all reports i've heard generally don't tend to overpay their players and usually hover around the 94% or whatever it is that they have to spend each year out of the salary cap according to AFL rules etc.
If Thomo doesn't get a contract there's more cash, even if he does get another year it could well be for less money.
We would have a bit of cash available for the right player I reckon.

As far as Gibbs knocking us back in years gone by I think we've had 3 or 4 goes at trying to get him over here without any success obviously.

Tonnes of rumours flying round as they always are this time of year, I'll believe it when someone signs or actually comes out and says I want a trade to the Crows otherwise it's just all hot air. I really hope though that we are looking hard for a quality midfielder, we need more firepower in the guts that's glaringly obvious to me. So i'm hoping we are asking questions about Gibbs Rocky etc not sure Hartlett is enough for us to improve considerably i'd rather persist with some of the younger guys we have and be patient for another 12-18 months.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Money Shot on September 30, 2016, 11:05:33 AM
Lyons, Ellis Yolman, Knight, Grigg, Wigg, Dear

For

Gibbs and Thomas

Sounds good to me ;)
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Grazz on September 30, 2016, 11:08:57 AM
Quote from: Money Shot on September 30, 2016, 11:05:33 AM
Lyons, Ellis Yolman, Knight, Grigg, Wigg, Dear

For

Gibbs and Thomas

Sounds good to me ;)

Haha yeh it would sound good for you.  ;)
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: powersuperkents on September 30, 2016, 11:20:07 AM
Quote from: Grazz on September 30, 2016, 09:31:46 AM
Quote from: Jay on September 29, 2016, 03:32:00 PM
Quote from: meow meow on September 29, 2016, 03:17:43 PM
Quote from: jvalles69 on September 29, 2016, 02:17:57 PM
Quote from: valkorum on September 29, 2016, 01:46:06 PM
ESPN reporting that Bryce Gibbs is open to a trade to Adelaide

Didn't he knock them back a few years ago by re-signing with Carlton?

He's 2 years into a 5 year deal. At 600k a season the Crows should be able to easily pick that up.
Can someone explain how Adelaide would have the space to fit Gibbs in after just re-signing both Crouch and Jenkins? Surely only Collingwood would have enough space.. Or are they capped out?

Danger would of been on decent cash.
Crows by all reports i've heard generally don't tend to overpay their players and usually hover around the 94% or whatever it is that they have to spend each year out of the salary cap according to AFL rules etc.
If Thomo doesn't get a contract there's more cash, even if he does get another year it could well be for less money.
We would have a bit of cash available for the right player I reckon.

As far as Gibbs knocking us back in years gone by I think we've had 3 or 4 goes at trying to get him over here without any success obviously.

Tonnes of rumours flying round as they always are this time of year, I'll believe it when someone signs or actually comes out and says I want a trade to the Crows otherwise it's just all hot air. I really hope though that we are looking hard for a quality midfielder, we need more firepower in the guts that's glaringly obvious to me. So i'm hoping we are asking questions about Gibbs Rocky etc not sure Hartlett is enough for us to improve considerably i'd rather persist with some of the younger guys we have and be patient for another 12-18 months.
Danger was on $700k at Adelaide

He's now on $800k at Geelong (Adelaide were willing to offer him upwards of a million dollar contract so they had to take it to the trade table)

The Crows certainly have space in the cap to go after 1 or 2 elite players

I honestly don't think Hartlett will move at this point - Port want a top 10 pick or an elite player for him and I don't see any club offering that - we must also remember that Hartlett and the Player's Association has all the leverage.

We really flowered up by giving these long-term contracts to Hammer & Lobbe
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Grazz on September 30, 2016, 11:58:17 AM
Quote from: powersuperkents on September 30, 2016, 11:20:07 AM
Quote from: Grazz on September 30, 2016, 09:31:46 AM
Quote from: Jay on September 29, 2016, 03:32:00 PM
Quote from: meow meow on September 29, 2016, 03:17:43 PM
Quote from: jvalles69 on September 29, 2016, 02:17:57 PM
Quote from: valkorum on September 29, 2016, 01:46:06 PM
ESPN reporting that Bryce Gibbs is open to a trade to Adelaide

Didn't he knock them back a few years ago by re-signing with Carlton?

He's 2 years into a 5 year deal. At 600k a season the Crows should be able to easily pick that up.
Can someone explain how Adelaide would have the space to fit Gibbs in after just re-signing both Crouch and Jenkins? Surely only Collingwood would have enough space.. Or are they capped out?

Danger would of been on decent cash.
Crows by all reports i've heard generally don't tend to overpay their players and usually hover around the 94% or whatever it is that they have to spend each year out of the salary cap according to AFL rules etc.
If Thomo doesn't get a contract there's more cash, even if he does get another year it could well be for less money.
We would have a bit of cash available for the right player I reckon.

As far as Gibbs knocking us back in years gone by I think we've had 3 or 4 goes at trying to get him over here without any success obviously.

Tonnes of rumours flying round as they always are this time of year, I'll believe it when someone signs or actually comes out and says I want a trade to the Crows otherwise it's just all hot air. I really hope though that we are looking hard for a quality midfielder, we need more firepower in the guts that's glaringly obvious to me. So i'm hoping we are asking questions about Gibbs Rocky etc not sure Hartlett is enough for us to improve considerably i'd rather persist with some of the younger guys we have and be patient for another 12-18 months.
Danger was on $700k at Adelaide

He's now on $800k at Geelong (Adelaide were willing to offer him upwards of a million dollar contract so they had to take it to the trade table)

The Crows certainly have space in the cap to go after 1 or 2 elite players

I honestly don't think Hartlett will move at this point - Port want a top 10 pick or an elite player for him and I don't see any club offering that - we must also remember that Hartlett and the Player's Association has all the leverage.

We really flowered up by giving these long-term contracts to Hammer & Lobbe

700k was it, cheers mate, definately a bit there to play with and have a crack at someone if their keen to move and have lots of candles and candle holders for the odd power failure.  :-[

Hartlett and Lobbe's contracts are hurting now I agree but at the time it seemed like a good move to lock them away.
Lobbe's form was good playing pretty good footy, Hartlett the same . Gone pear shaped now wouldn't of seen that coming at the time though to be fair.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Money Shot on September 30, 2016, 12:32:43 PM
Quote from: Grazz on September 30, 2016, 11:08:57 AM
Quote from: Money Shot on September 30, 2016, 11:05:33 AM
Lyons, Ellis Yolman, Knight, Grigg, Wigg, Dear

For

Gibbs and Thomas

Sounds good to me ;)

Haha yeh it would sound good for you.  ;)

Hahaha well throughout the year I have heard those names mentioned when it comes to trades and Carlton so heres hoping ;)
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: SydneyRox on September 30, 2016, 01:30:25 PM
Cant believe the rumour I am seeing around....

Mitchell for Rioli?

Not sure who wins that trade?

Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: elephants on September 30, 2016, 01:32:38 PM
Quote from: SydneyRox on September 30, 2016, 01:30:25 PM
Cant believe the rumour I am seeing around....

Mitchell for Rioli?

Not sure who wins that trade?

Haha yeah no chance that happens imo - there is some talk Rioli misses Buddy though :p

Hoping the Eagles play for Titch is legit! He's just what we need!
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: jvalles69 on September 30, 2016, 01:58:56 PM
Quote from: elephants on September 30, 2016, 01:32:38 PM
Quote from: SydneyRox on September 30, 2016, 01:30:25 PM
Cant believe the rumour I am seeing around....

Mitchell for Rioli?

Not sure who wins that trade?

Haha yeah no chance that happens imo - there is some talk Rioli misses Buddy though :p

Hoping the Eagles play for Titch is legit! He's just what we need!

Agreed, what draft picks do we have?  Masten and Jetta, lol!  ;D
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Truthin Ryan on September 30, 2016, 04:57:51 PM
Quote from: jvalles69 on September 30, 2016, 01:58:56 PM
Quote from: elephants on September 30, 2016, 01:32:38 PM
Quote from: SydneyRox on September 30, 2016, 01:30:25 PM
Cant believe the rumour I am seeing around....

Mitchell for Rioli?

Not sure who wins that trade?

Haha yeah no chance that happens imo - there is some talk Rioli misses Buddy though :p

Hoping the Eagles play for Titch is legit! He's just what we need!

Agreed, what draft picks do we have?  Masten and Jetta, lol!  ;D

West Coast have picks; 12, 30, 48, 66, 84, 102.

Source: http://www.afl.com.au/news/2016-09-25/indicative-draft-order-giants-hold-three-picks-inside-top-16
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: jvalles69 on September 30, 2016, 05:25:26 PM
Cheers for that, not great picks really.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Mr.Craig on September 30, 2016, 10:19:37 PM
Quote from: SydneyRox on September 30, 2016, 01:30:25 PM
Cant believe the rumour I am seeing around....

Mitchell for Rioli?

Not sure who wins that trade?

Why would Richmond have to give anything up for Mitchell? Port delisted him.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: fanTCfool on September 30, 2016, 10:24:51 PM
Quote from: Mr.Craig on September 30, 2016, 10:19:37 PM
Quote from: SydneyRox on September 30, 2016, 01:30:25 PM
Cant believe the rumour I am seeing around....

Mitchell for Rioli?

Not sure who wins that trade?

Why would Richmond have to give anything up for Mitchell? Port delisted him.

I wouldn't put it past Richmond to trade for a delisted player.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: nas on October 01, 2016, 07:26:57 AM
Quote from: fanTCfool on September 30, 2016, 10:24:51 PM
Quote from: Mr.Craig on September 30, 2016, 10:19:37 PM
Quote from: SydneyRox on September 30, 2016, 01:30:25 PM
Cant believe the rumour I am seeing around....

Mitchell for Rioli?

Not sure who wins that trade?

Why would Richmond have to give anything up for Mitchell? Port delisted him.

I wouldn't put it past Richmond to trade for a delisted player.

Good play on surname there Mr C.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: kilbluff1985 on October 01, 2016, 02:42:43 PM
do you guys think Brisbane would like this

Pick 1 + Pick 19

for

Rocky + pick 2
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: elephants on October 01, 2016, 02:48:12 PM
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on October 01, 2016, 02:42:43 PM
do you guys think Brisbane would like this

Pick 1 + Pick 19

for

Rocky + pick 2

Nope, I dont think Rocky will leave but if he does Adelaide will engineer something with Danger money imo
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: PowerBug on October 01, 2016, 02:48:15 PM
That's basically Rocky for pick 19...
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: RaisyDaisy on October 01, 2016, 04:47:46 PM
Buckley has confirmed Collingwood aren't interested in Boomer
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Holz on October 02, 2016, 12:30:28 AM
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on October 01, 2016, 02:42:43 PM
do you guys think Brisbane would like this

Pick 1 + Pick 19

for

Rocky + pick 2

surely your talking like pick 20 something
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: enzedder on October 02, 2016, 09:52:17 AM
Jack Steele is likely to be a Saint next year.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: RaisyDaisy on October 03, 2016, 11:14:20 AM
Please don't be true

How Fremantle lands Greater Western Sydney forward Cam McCarthy is taking shape, with West Coast reportedly linked to the deal in a three-way swap.

The deal, floated between the clubs and reported in The West Australian, would involve Eagles defender Eric Mackenzie joining the Giants.

McCarthy would then go to the Dockers, who would pass on small forward Hayden Ballantyne to West Coast.

However, the Eagles were reported to be reluctant to give up their 2014 club champion Mackenzie at that price.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: elephants on October 03, 2016, 12:09:49 PM
Yeah that wont happen, our third rounder will get the job done.

Mackenzie is more important than what Ballantyne **might** add.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: LF on October 03, 2016, 03:51:07 PM
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2016-10-03/no-clubs-interested-in-boomer-says-manager

CLUBS are yet to express interest in North Melbourne champion Brent Harvey as the veteran weighs up whether to play at another club in 2017, manager Shane Casley says.

Harvey, the VFL/AFL game's record holder with 432 games, was one of four veteran players not to have their contracts extended by the Kangaroos.

The 38-year-old is still keeping his options open but is considered a "long shot" to play next year.


Meanwhile, Greater Western Sydney veteran Joel Patfull, 31, can trigger a clause in his contract to play at the club next season, but still has to make a call on whether he goes around again in 2017.

Casley also manages Essendon free agent Courtenay Dempsey and said he remains in limbo and is waiting to hear from the Bombers about whether he receives another contract.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: elephants on October 03, 2016, 03:55:21 PM
Reckon Dempsey is a chance to go somewhere else and resurrect his career. I do think he'll need to move away from Essendon to allow that to happen though.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: RaisyDaisy on October 04, 2016, 11:27:22 AM
Lobb signed on with GWS

Flower
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Nige on October 04, 2016, 11:39:13 AM
Hartlett open to a move. Either wants to move to Victoria or stay with Port.

Cats interested in Tuohy, Motlop might be part of that deal.

More suitors emerging for Tyrone.

Hanley to Suns still looking a chance.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Purple 77 on October 04, 2016, 11:45:54 AM
Jesse signs on!

That's right, flower off West Cost & Fremantle!!! >:D
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: SydneyRox on October 04, 2016, 11:47:30 AM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on October 04, 2016, 11:27:22 AM
Lobb signed on with GWS

Flower

with Hogan signed on as well, the tall fwd market is shrinking rapidly....

Vickery might get really lucky
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: elephants on October 04, 2016, 11:58:54 AM
Quote from: Purple 77 on October 04, 2016, 11:45:54 AM
Jesse signs on!

That's right, flower off West Cost & Fremantle!!! >:D

I don't mind waiting until 2019 for Jess
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Purple 77 on October 04, 2016, 12:57:18 PM
Quote from: elephants on October 04, 2016, 11:58:54 AM
Quote from: Purple 77 on October 04, 2016, 11:45:54 AM
Jesse signs on!

That's right, flower off West Cost & Fremantle!!! >:D

I don't mind waiting until 2019 for Jess

Can't wait for his 2018 contract-renewal announcement either  8)
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: elephants on October 04, 2016, 12:58:58 PM
Quote from: Purple 77 on October 04, 2016, 12:57:18 PM
Quote from: elephants on October 04, 2016, 11:58:54 AM
Quote from: Purple 77 on October 04, 2016, 11:45:54 AM
Jesse signs on!

That's right, flower off West Cost & Fremantle!!! >:D

I don't mind waiting until 2019 for Jess

Can't wait for his 2018 contract-renewal announcement either  8)

Haha fair call :P
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Big Mac on October 04, 2016, 02:33:13 PM
<3
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: RaisyDaisy on October 04, 2016, 05:50:35 PM
The Dockers today cut another six players: Mzungu, de Boer, Clancee Pearce, Jack Hannath, Brady Grey and rookie Josh Deluca.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: DazBurg on October 04, 2016, 06:06:07 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on October 04, 2016, 11:27:22 AM
Lobb signed on with GWS

Flower
then the answer for WC is to add an E to it and get Lobbe...
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Ringo on October 04, 2016, 07:42:09 PM
Reading the body language and Nobles comments at todays presser would say Hanley extremely likely to move with Rocky staying put.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: meow meow on October 04, 2016, 07:57:10 PM
Bartel still undecided about next year, or so he says.

More like the AFL are complete morons and haven't done the CBA so clubs have no idea what the salary cap is for next season. Geelong might have signed him already if they knew how much they've got to work with.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Purple 77 on October 04, 2016, 08:36:44 PM
Farkin Jonesy

(http://image.prntscr.com/image/84bddbf130c644c7a46a0341de660e02.png)
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: powersuperkents on October 04, 2016, 10:56:16 PM
Quote from: DazBurg on October 04, 2016, 06:06:07 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on October 04, 2016, 11:27:22 AM
Lobb signed on with GWS

Flower
then the answer for WC is to add an E to it and get Lobbe...
I wouldn't go for Lobbe, he's contracted until the end of 2019 and under the Kochie administration we have developed an attitude of both overrating and, therefore, wanting overs for our players (why I doubt Hartlett will be traded as he's said he doesn't want to go to the Gold Coast).
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Ringo on October 05, 2016, 10:18:21 AM
http://www.geelongcats.com.au/news/2016-10-05/enright-announces-retirement

"Boris" Enright has retired. His form this year was sound and expected another year at least.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: enzedder on October 05, 2016, 11:39:04 AM
Quote from: Ringo on October 05, 2016, 10:18:21 AM
http://www.geelongcats.com.au/news/2016-10-05/enright-announces-retirement

"Boris" Enright has retired. His form this year was sound and expected another year at least.
Goes out as an AA. No wonder he shed a few tears after their finals exit. He knew it was the end of the road for him.
Embodies what a club champ is. The cats will be poorer without him.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: RaisyDaisy on October 05, 2016, 12:01:11 PM
I reckon Bartel will follow him now too
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: shaker on October 05, 2016, 01:24:20 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on October 05, 2016, 12:01:11 PM
I reckon Bartel will follow him now too

I don't know about that Jimmy is looking very young again with his beard off  :P
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: RaisyDaisy on October 05, 2016, 01:43:59 PM
Maric signed on with Richmond for next year
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: powersuperkents on October 05, 2016, 03:00:01 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on October 05, 2016, 01:43:59 PM
Maric signed on with Richmond for next year
Do you know if they will still be chasing a ruck for the long-term or whether they are waiting for a better market next year?

Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: RaisyDaisy on October 05, 2016, 07:28:25 PM
Jack Frost has requested a trade from Collingwood to Brisbane
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: RaisyDaisy on October 05, 2016, 08:22:42 PM
Gold Coast showing interest in Barlow
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Ringo on October 05, 2016, 08:27:15 PM
Pearce Hanley underwent a medical at Suns yesterday.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: strikes91 on October 05, 2016, 09:25:36 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on October 05, 2016, 08:22:42 PM
Gold Coast showing interest in Barlow
Gazza said they wanted ready made players. Barlow and Hanley fit that.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: fanTCfool on October 05, 2016, 09:42:21 PM
Hopefully Gold Coast don't give away all their early picks, I was hoping to see a GWS style breakout in a few years.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Ringo on October 05, 2016, 09:49:33 PM
Brisbane will probably be seeking at least a first round pick for Hanley.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: strikes91 on October 05, 2016, 10:39:56 PM
Quote from: fanTCfool on October 05, 2016, 09:42:21 PM
Hopefully Gold Coast don't give away all their early picks, I was hoping to see a GWS style breakout in a few years.

They'll have 4 and 6. Will likely have to give up 8 for Hanley or if they get 14 from the hawks send that to Brisbane and keep 8
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: RaisyDaisy on October 05, 2016, 11:19:21 PM
IMO Hanley isn't worth a Top 10 pick at all, barely worth a 1st rounder

Pick 15-25 would be enough
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: GoLions on October 05, 2016, 11:33:58 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on October 05, 2016, 11:19:21 PM
IMO Hanley isn't worth a Top 10 pick at all, barely worth a 1st rounder

Pick 15-25 would be enough
Agree he isn't worth a top 10 pick, reckon 15 is about right though. I'd gladly take 8 though :P
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Ricochet on October 05, 2016, 11:35:54 PM
Quote from: GoLions on October 05, 2016, 11:33:58 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on October 05, 2016, 11:19:21 PM
IMO Hanley isn't worth a Top 10 pick at all, barely worth a 1st rounder

Pick 15-25 would be enough
Agree he isn't worth a top 10 pick, reckon 15 is about right though. I'd gladly take 8 though :P
Yeh i reckon 15-20 too
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: RaisyDaisy on October 05, 2016, 11:39:22 PM
Minson has advised the Doggies he is leaving

WCE interested in Vardy now too
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: strikes91 on October 05, 2016, 11:40:02 PM
14 I think is suitable, they should get it from the O'Meara trade.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: PowerBug on October 06, 2016, 12:45:23 AM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on October 05, 2016, 11:39:22 PM
WCE interested in Vardy now too
I think Vardy already completed a medical at Port ??? I hope we land him anyway as he's someone that would complement Dixon up front whilst chopping out Ryder when he needs a rest

You guys can have Minson :P
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Scrads on October 06, 2016, 01:09:31 AM
What about

Hawks give Pick 22 (from Freo for Hill) and next year's first rounder, get Omeara

Bris give Hanley, get Hawks next year's first rounder

GC give Omeara, get Hanley and pick 22
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Spite on October 06, 2016, 01:53:05 AM
Quote from: Scrads on October 06, 2016, 01:09:31 AM
What about

Hawks give Pick 22 (from Freo for Hill) and next year's first rounder, get Omeara

Bris give Hanley, get Hawks next year's first rounder

GC give Omeara, get Hanley and pick 22

If Brisbane add a late pick to give to GC in that deal I would say it's very even
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: enzedder on October 06, 2016, 07:35:49 AM
The following is a post from Jaxons on Saintsational. He is someone who has regularly posted trade ideas and progress with regards to the Saints over a number of years. He is no doubt close to the inner sanctum as he has the runs on the board to be believed.
With regards to Steele going for a second round pick....

"Will be this years pick 46 or next years second rounder, probably the latter.
We are also looking at other GWS players so that could change the deal and dynamics.
Steele looks likely but is not 100% just yet, and after Laverde nothing is done until it is done.
Early next week you will know about him.
We are very busy and looking at lots and lots, no different to other clubs however.
Am confident we will not pursue Hartlett further, asking price is too high on money and trade.
May reconsider if Port pay half his salary etc.
We want to get back into this years draft which is the right strategy.
And still pursuing a key tall.
If we get Steele and a tall back who is good and have 3 top 30 draft picks I will call that a very successful trade period.
We are still flirting with the idea of bringing in a big name without breaking our trade currency too much.
All can be done!"

So Steele will be a Saint, just a matter of what # pick.
The tall could be Corr who is said to have had a tour of facilities.
Hartlett can cross the Saints off the interested list at the going price.
And for the Saints to get an extra two picks in the top 30 than have presently and manage to keep #10 which Jaxons has previously alluded to the Saints will have to move some players on. He won't divulge who is being discussed because as he puts it, he has morals and won't discuss players at the club who need to be informed first.... which is fair enough.... but I'd suggest they are looking at trading one or more of Longer, Lonie, Templeton and Sinclair. The saints have four rucks, Hickey is by far our #1 ruck and Holmes has recently been given a contract and Pierce is developing well. Longer would be worth 20 something in the current climate. As for the other three they are all dynamic and creative small forwards with goal sense... three peas in a pod who could all go on and carve out good careers but who are all presently on the fringe at St.Kilda... we don't need all three.

Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: RaisyDaisy on October 06, 2016, 09:56:15 AM
Vickery has agreed to terms with Hawthorn. 3 year deal
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Purple 77 on October 06, 2016, 10:16:37 AM
So, I hear Richmond may be willing to give up their future first rounder for Hartlett...

I would have thought Richmond should be going to the draft, instead of trading two consecutive years' worth of first rounders for Prestia and Hartlett  :-\

Still, Prestia is quality, and if he remains fit, could very well end up being a big win for the Tiges.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: shaker on October 06, 2016, 10:40:26 AM
I think that the Tiges next years 1st round will be easily a top 10 probably top 6 and that is way to much for a player like Hartlett who will be 27 next year and IMO not that good a player
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: iZander on October 06, 2016, 10:55:26 AM
Quote from: Purple 77 on October 06, 2016, 10:16:37 AM
So, I hear Richmond may be willing to give up their future first rounder for Hartlett...

I would have thought Richmond should be going to the draft, instead of trading two consecutive years' worth of first rounders for Prestia and Hartlett  :-\

Still, Prestia is quality, and if he remains fit, could very well end up being a big win for the Tiges.

They might get a full season of games if they combine prestia and Hartlett hahaha
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Holz on October 06, 2016, 11:09:42 AM
Quote from: fanTCfool on October 05, 2016, 09:42:21 PM
Hopefully Gold Coast don't give away all their early picks, I was hoping to see a GWS style breakout in a few years.

At worst they get Bowes Scheer which is very very good.


If they added Bowes Scheer Barlow Hanley then that would be a huge in, even if they lose presita and JOM. Its not like they played much last year anyway.


Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: kilbluff1985 on October 06, 2016, 12:59:21 PM
http://www.adelaidenow.com.au/sport/afl/teams/port-adelaide/port-adelaide-vicecaptain-hamish-hartlett-declares-his-club-of-choice-is-still-power/news-story/d4caab7bc334e4da7d8dfffba5de29bc?utm_content=SocialFlow&utm_campaign=EditorialSF&utm_source=HeraldSun&utm_medium=Twitter
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: powersuperkents on October 06, 2016, 01:06:37 PM
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on October 06, 2016, 12:59:21 PM
http://www.adelaidenow.com.au/sport/afl/teams/port-adelaide/port-adelaide-vicecaptain-hamish-hartlett-declares-his-club-of-choice-is-still-power/news-story/d4caab7bc334e4da7d8dfffba5de29bc?utm_content=SocialFlow&utm_campaign=EditorialSF&utm_source=HeraldSun&utm_medium=Twitter
Just keep him coaching staff...

Lobbe is the bigger burden, and at least one club would be imprudent enough to pay overs on him.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: powersuperkents on October 06, 2016, 01:11:37 PM
This is obviously due to the salary cap, however, if the coaching staff played him in the midfield (his preferred position) instead of the flowering half-back line or forward pocket he would be performing at a rate closer to his pay grade  >:(

Lobbe is the one who needs to go (as long as both Ryder and Lobbe are at Port, both are being overpaid - I assume they are both part of our club of 9 players receiving over $500k per season)
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: iZander on October 06, 2016, 01:15:43 PM
Quote from: powersuperkents on October 06, 2016, 01:11:37 PM
This is obviously due to the salary cap, however, if the coaching staff played him in the midfield (his preferred position) instead of the flowering half-back line or forward pocket

Im glad someone else recognizes this!
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: powersuperkents on October 06, 2016, 04:25:17 PM
Report from AFL.com.au

http://www.afl.com.au/news/2016-10-06/hamish-hartlett-wants-to-stay-at-port-adelaide-manager (http://www.afl.com.au/news/2016-10-06/hamish-hartlett-wants-to-stay-at-port-adelaide-manager)

Richmond is too risky a club to punt on regarding future picks imo (they will most likely be in the same position next year, however, they are an unpredictable side so who knows what will happen and Port wants a guaranteed top 6 pick at the minimum)
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Money Shot on October 06, 2016, 05:54:24 PM
Has Tom Mitchell actually specified what club he wants to go to? I know that Hawks seem to be front runners but surely Carlton is a chance?
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: iZander on October 06, 2016, 05:56:12 PM
Quote from: Money Shot on October 06, 2016, 05:54:24 PM
Has Tom Mitchell actually specified what club he wants to go to? I know that Hawks seem to be front runners but surely Carlton is a chance?

Pretty sure he said he wants to stay at sydney?? but not 100% sure
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Ricochet on October 06, 2016, 05:59:49 PM
Ben McGlynn has announced his retirement
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Ricochet on October 06, 2016, 06:00:28 PM
annnnd Brisbane have been awarded a Priority Pick at the end of the first round
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Purple 77 on October 06, 2016, 06:08:00 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on October 06, 2016, 06:00:28 PM
annnnd Brisbane have been awarded a Priority Pick at the end of the first round

...
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Purple 77 on October 06, 2016, 06:09:33 PM
flower-ING! COMPO!

WHAT THE flower!

MELBOURNE WERE IN WORSE SHAPE IN 2013 THEN BRISBANE ARE NOW!!!!

WE EVEN PLAYED WORSE!

flowerin shower!
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Purple 77 on October 06, 2016, 06:12:09 PM
(http://image.prntscr.com/image/849fc79634f6410cb567fb56f2de7712.png)

^^ really? REALLY?!
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: elephants on October 06, 2016, 06:13:16 PM
Melbourne would never ever fold, the AFL needs to keep footy in Queensland alive.

Lose-lose really. Pick 19 isn't significant enough for Brisbane to do anything substantial with, while they forever hold the tag of getting this priority pick.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Purple 77 on October 06, 2016, 06:17:32 PM
flowering Essendon's 2016 netted more wins and a better percentage than our 2013!

But apparently we didn't get one coz "we a lot of unavailable talent in Hogan & Clark"

Beams must be a real scrub!
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: iZander on October 06, 2016, 06:19:57 PM
Quote from: Purple 77 on October 06, 2016, 06:12:09 PM
(http://image.prntscr.com/image/849fc79634f6410cb567fb56f2de7712.png)

^^ really? REALLY?!

Probably cause you had Chris Dawes, with his leadership around the young blokes were bound to flourish
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: nrich102 on October 06, 2016, 06:22:44 PM
Why doesn't the AFL just shut us down? They clearly don't want us so why do they keep us afloat?
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: iZander on October 06, 2016, 06:24:58 PM
Quote from: nrich102 on October 06, 2016, 06:22:44 PM
Why doesn't the AFL just shut us down? They clearly don't want us so why do they keep us afloat?

Agreed, give us a tassy team!
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: strikes91 on October 06, 2016, 06:29:05 PM
Whats with the Demons whinging, they had been given a priority pick a fews year before that. Pick 1 as well may I add
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Torpedo10 on October 06, 2016, 06:30:12 PM
Quote from: nrich102 on October 06, 2016, 06:22:44 PM
Why doesn't the AFL just shut us down? They clearly don't want us so why do they keep us afloat?
What else are the AFL meant to do?
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: nrich102 on October 06, 2016, 06:31:10 PM
Quote from: strikes91 on October 06, 2016, 06:29:05 PM
Whats with the Demons whinging, they had been given a priority pick a fews year before that. Pick 1 as well may I add
Plus they tanked

And they're in the middle of the AFL world so should have no problem getting players that are *homesick*m


Quote from: Torpedo10 on October 06, 2016, 06:30:12 PM
Quote from: nrich102 on October 06, 2016, 06:22:44 PM
Why doesn't the AFL just shut us down? They clearly don't want us so why do they keep us afloat?
What else are the AFL meant to do?
Help us maybe?
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: kilbluff1985 on October 06, 2016, 06:43:36 PM
priority pick Hawthorn!
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: elephants on October 06, 2016, 07:09:20 PM
Brissie's list isn't that bad, Fagan will do good things there imo.

They have a good, deep midfield just need some key position stocks to develop.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Big Mac on October 06, 2016, 07:36:55 PM
Brisbane already have plenty of young talent. A priority pick is not going to help them in the short term. What they could actually use is a blank cheque to sign a new coach and to get him whatever/whoever he needs to get the club going.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Purple 77 on October 06, 2016, 08:10:51 PM
Quote from: Big  Mac on October 06, 2016, 07:36:55 PM
Brisbane already have plenty of young talent. A priority pick is not going to help them in the short term. What they could actually use is a blank cheque to sign a new coach and to get him whatever/whoever he needs to get the club going.

Exactly.



Quote from: nrich102 on October 06, 2016, 06:31:10 PM
Quote from: strikes91 on October 06, 2016, 06:29:05 PM
Whats with the Demons whinging, they had been given a priority pick a fews year before that. Pick 1 as well may I add
Plus they tanked

We weren't *given* it, our win/loss record automatically earned it. Unoffically tanked for it, I will admit. These are irrelevant points anyway, regarding the current system.

This priority pick system has clearly been inconsistently applied, which leads itself to being accused of AFL bias.

QuoteTheir application for a priority pick last season was rejected, but the AFL Commission determined they had met the requirements outlined under the wording of the AFL Rule 19.2 (Special Assistance), when considering the club's current age and list profile, and recent player movement in and out of the club.

I don't remember who said it, but aren't Brisbane ranked number 1 for player retention in the past 3 years?

Did they not get Beams, Christensen and Bell to the club?

Is their age profile SO dissimilar to Melbourne's 2013 list?



In the end, I'm glad the assistance we got was a financial bail-out and Peter Jackson, both of which spearheaded the recruitment of Paul Roos, which spearheaded the recruitment of quality assistant coaches.

I'm just filthy at the inconsistent application of the priority pick system. Simply, it's not fair.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Mat0369 on October 06, 2016, 09:15:03 PM
Which of these is the most deserving of a priority pick?

Average wins

Team 1 - 7.7
Team 2 - 5.5
Team 3 - 5.43

Average losses

Team 1 - 14
Team 2 - 16.3
Team 3 - 16.29

Average draws

Team 1 - 0.3
Team 2 - 0.2
Team 3 - 0.29

Average Percentage

Team 1 - 85.24
Team 2 - 75.98
Team 3 - 77.11
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: elephants on October 06, 2016, 09:27:20 PM
D) None of the above

Don't reward mediocrity, clubs will work it out.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Purple 77 on October 06, 2016, 09:30:04 PM
Need more data ^^

But on that alone, Teams' 2 & 3 should have the biggest claim. Team 1 has probably had a couple of good years
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Ringo on October 06, 2016, 09:46:31 PM
Do not agree with priority pick personally but will take it.
Been on the road all day today and catching .up. Has not been mentioned previoously, brisbane reportedly chasing Luke Breust. Could be athree way trade with suns involving O'Meara , Hanley, and Breust,
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Mat0369 on October 06, 2016, 09:55:35 PM
Quote from: elephants on October 06, 2016, 09:27:20 PM
D) None of the above

Don't reward mediocrity, clubs will work it out.

This is true. All three teams needed a financial bail out more then the pick.

Quote from: Purple 77 on October 06, 2016, 09:30:04 PM
Need more data ^^

But on that alone, Teams' 2 & 3 should have the biggest claim. Team 1 has probably had a couple of good years

I basically broke down the win loss records for Brisbane between 07-16, Melbourne from 07-16 and Carlton from 02-08. These are the numbers.

Brisbane

year   wins   losses   draw   %
2007   9   11   2   105.36
2008   10   12   0   98
2009   13   8   1   106.72
2010   7   15   0   82.25
2011   4   18   0   80.98
2012   10   12   0   91.01
2013   10   12   0   89.65
2014   7   15   0   69.3
2015   4   18   0   67.5
2016   3   19   0   61.6
            
Total   77   140   3   
Average   7.7   14   0.3   85.237


Melbourne

year   wins   losses   draw   %
2007   5   17   0   78.16
2008   3   19   0   62.61
2009   4   18   0   74.66
2010   8   13   1   94.52
2011   8   13   1   85.27
2012   4*   18   0   67.49
2013   2   20   0   54.07
2014   4   18   0   68.4
2015   7   15   0   77
2016   10   12   0   97.6
            
Total   55   163   2   
Average   5.5   16.3   0.2   75.978

*3 of the 4 wins against expansion clubs

Carlton

year   wins   losses   draw   %
2002   3   19   0   73.13
2003   4   18   0   66.72
2004   10   12   0   81.66
2005   4   17   1   75.51
2006   3   18   1   74.16
2007   4   18   0   74.44
2008   10   12   0   94.18
            
            
Total   38   114   2   
Average   5.428571429   16.28571429   0.285714286   77.11428571

Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: strikes91 on October 06, 2016, 09:59:01 PM
2007 will be 10 years away next year. Clutching a bit
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: GoLions on October 06, 2016, 10:01:56 PM
2010-2016 for us is almost as bad as Melbourne though. And Voss basically bringing in "top-up" like players probably makes things look a bit better than what it was.

FWIW I don't think we should have gotten a priority pick, also think we need money more than anything.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: kilbluff1985 on October 06, 2016, 10:07:45 PM
Hanley to GC
JOM to Hawks
Breust to Brisbane

pretty close to even?
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: GoLions on October 06, 2016, 10:11:26 PM
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on October 06, 2016, 10:07:45 PM
Hanley to GC
JOM to Hawks
Breust to Brisbane

pretty close to even?
Hawks probs lose as JOM will play 20 games for the rest of his career :P
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: tbagrocks on October 06, 2016, 10:19:17 PM
Quote from: fanTCfool on October 05, 2016, 09:42:21 PM
Hopefully Gold Coast don't give away all their early picks, I was hoping to see a GWS style breakout in a few years.
So TANK as long as you can get away with whilst the AFL has their head up your arse?
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: elephants on October 06, 2016, 10:23:52 PM
Quote from: tbagrocks on October 06, 2016, 10:19:17 PM
Quote from: fanTCfool on October 05, 2016, 09:42:21 PM
Hopefully Gold Coast don't give away all their early picks, I was hoping to see a GWS style breakout in a few years.
So TANK as long as you can get away with whilst the AFL has their head up your arse?

Fkn Dumbetriou!
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: kilbluff1985 on October 06, 2016, 10:25:34 PM
so guesses on first free agent movement tomorrow?
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: iZander on October 06, 2016, 10:27:49 PM
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on October 06, 2016, 10:25:34 PM
so guesses on first free agent movement tomorrow?

Vickery? idk haha
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Bill Manspeaker on October 06, 2016, 10:30:03 PM
Frost? no idea. Steele. probably not. hope it gets done early though

I guess that's not exactly free agency. flower it I dunno :P
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: elephants on October 06, 2016, 10:39:00 PM
Quote from: Bill Manspeaker on October 06, 2016, 10:30:03 PM
I guess that's not exactly free agency. flower it I dunno :P

Haha same man I got no clue.

I'll say Mayne if he's a free agent :P
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: kilbluff1985 on October 06, 2016, 10:40:25 PM
Kelly/Dea are free agents right? my guess is them

they were announced but not officially
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: PowerBug on October 06, 2016, 10:55:39 PM
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on October 06, 2016, 10:40:25 PM
Kelly/Dea are free agents right? my guess is them

they were announced but not officially
De-listed Free Agents. I feel like they go under a different category which doesn't open tomorrow but could be wrong.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Mat0369 on October 06, 2016, 11:02:47 PM
Quote from: strikes91 on October 06, 2016, 09:59:01 PM
2007 will be 10 years away next year. Clutching a bit

Not at all. I'm saying that we were far worse between 2002 and 2007 which is a sustained period of being poor. Brisbane have not had a sustained period anywhere near as bad as Melbourne or Carlton. Even if you make the period the last 7 years Carlton and Melbourne were worse. To cap off how bad we were in 07, 8th most points against in history. You should have to be worse then these two teams to even be considered for a draft pick. They aren't.

We were rewarded priority picks and needed them after being docked for the salary cap sanctions. What we really needed was a bail out because we were screwed both on and off field. It wasn't until Pratt (not the AFL) bailed us out in 07 with money to get the off field right that we started improving. The priority picks mean jack if you can't get the off-field right. You guys were able to get rid of Leppitsch this year, we tried to get rid of Pagan but didn't have the money.


Quote from: GoLions on October 06, 2016, 10:01:56 PM
2010-2016 for us is almost as bad as Melbourne though. And Voss basically bringing in "top-up" like players probably makes things look a bit better than what it was.

FWIW I don't think we should have gotten a priority pick, also think we need money more than anything.

2012 Melbourne won 4 games with 3 being against the expansion teams which were in their infancy. If GWS and GC were not in the comp and it was still a 16 team competition that means Melbourne would have won a grand total of 1 game that year. In 2013 they 2 games. Regardless of how bad Brisbane have been off-field, they haven't been as bad as Melbourne between 12-14. They were not given the priority pick for that period. If Brisbane were still a 4-18 team next year, then maybe they should have been considered for one.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: PowerBug on October 06, 2016, 11:06:48 PM
Guys, there are Port supporters on this forum, please don't mention 2007 anymore :'(
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: tbagrocks on October 06, 2016, 11:08:43 PM
What do people think Delidio will do? Geelong want him? Cats better not win a flag or i'll be pissed off! I used to like them winning :P

But could deledio land elsewhere? I'd take him at Adelaide! Anyone else a chance?

Just curious to see what Tigs will get for him
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: tbagrocks on October 06, 2016, 11:11:19 PM
So what did Port get when they traded Shaun Burgoyne in 2007 2009?
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: fanTCfool on October 06, 2016, 11:11:40 PM
Hearing that as much as they may want him, Geelong unlikely to land Lids due mainly to cap.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Mat0369 on October 06, 2016, 11:14:05 PM
Quote from: tbagrocks on October 06, 2016, 11:08:43 PM
What do people think Delidio will do? Geelong want him? Cats better not win a flag or i'll be pissed off! I used to like them winning :P

But could deledio land elsewhere? I'd take him at Adelaide! Anyone else a chance?

Just curious to see what Tigs will get for him

I hope they get him. They will be screwed soon enough. You can't keep topping up when you have no depth. Lids body could very well be shot and they aren't going to win a premiership with a 2 man midfield.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: tbagrocks on October 06, 2016, 11:27:26 PM
Quote from: Mat0369 on October 06, 2016, 11:14:05 PM
Quote from: tbagrocks on October 06, 2016, 11:08:43 PM
What do people think Delidio will do? Geelong want him? Cats better not win a flag or i'll be pissed off! I used to like them winning :P

But could deledio land elsewhere? I'd take him at Adelaide! Anyone else a chance?

Just curious to see what Tigs will get for him

I hope they get him. They will be screwed soon enough. You can't keep topping up when you have no depth. Lids body could very well be shot and they aren't going to win a premiership with a 2 man midfield.
Yeah it's almost crazy the youth they are passing up. Cats wont have any future at all but am sure they realize this, don't they?

Not like Sydney or GWS who just sneak in their academy players every year (Another story) But Geelong will shoot themselves in the foot and arm! (And I don't mean from Steven Dank)
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: kilbluff1985 on October 06, 2016, 11:58:42 PM
oh no tbags gonna be mad everyone panic  :P
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: nas on October 07, 2016, 01:31:19 AM
Quote from: PowerBug on October 06, 2016, 11:06:48 PM
Guys, there are Port supporters on this forum, please don't mention 2007 anymore :'(

Haha.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: nas on October 07, 2016, 01:37:58 AM
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on October 06, 2016, 10:25:34 PM
so guesses on first free agent movement tomorrow?

T Cloke?
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: RaisyDaisy on October 07, 2016, 03:11:04 PM
Lin Jong has re-signed with the Doggies
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: meow meow on October 07, 2016, 03:48:22 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on October 07, 2016, 03:11:04 PM
Lin Jong has re-signed with the Doggies

Legend! Don't think we'll be seeing Koby or Hrovat do the same though. Kept the one I wanted the most though.

Quote from: nas on October 07, 2016, 01:37:58 AM
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on October 06, 2016, 10:25:34 PM
so guesses on first free agent movement tomorrow?

T Cloke?

Cloke isn't a free agent. My guess is Mayne.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: powersuperkents on October 07, 2016, 05:06:38 PM
It was always going to be Vickery

The deal was all but officially completed earlier in the season

http://www.afl.com.au/news/2016-10-07/hawks-make-their-move-for-ty-vickery (http://www.afl.com.au/news/2016-10-07/hawks-make-their-move-for-ty-vickery)

The question now is... do Richmond match it
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: LF on October 07, 2016, 05:07:29 PM
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2016-10-07/thompson-to-go-round-again-after-signing-oneyear-deal

Thompson going for another year

http://www.afl.com.au/news/2016-10-07/hawks-make-their-move-for-ty-vickery

Vickery apparently offered 3yrs by the Hawks
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Ricochet on October 07, 2016, 05:08:21 PM
Hawks have just corrected themselves,

Only a 2yr deal for Vickery
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: RaisyDaisy on October 07, 2016, 05:59:37 PM
@meow, apparently the mayne deal might take a little time, not clear cut yet
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: shaker on October 07, 2016, 07:31:54 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on October 07, 2016, 05:08:21 PM
Hawks have just corrected themselves,

Only a 2yr deal for Vickery

Will the Tiges get a compensation pick if they don't match the offer ?
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Big Mac on October 07, 2016, 07:41:50 PM
Quote from: shaker on October 07, 2016, 07:31:54 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on October 07, 2016, 05:08:21 PM
Hawks have just corrected themselves,

Only a 2yr deal for Vickery

Will the Tiges get a compensation pick if they don't match the offer ?

Yeh

Would probably just be third round though if it's only 2 years
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: shaker on October 07, 2016, 08:03:22 PM
Quote from: Big  Mac on October 07, 2016, 07:41:50 PM
Quote from: shaker on October 07, 2016, 07:31:54 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on October 07, 2016, 05:08:21 PM
Hawks have just corrected themselves,

Only a 2yr deal for Vickery

Will the Tiges get a compensation pick if they don't match the offer ?

Yeh

Would probably just be third round though if it's only 2 years

Ok well I can't see them matching it then
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: RaisyDaisy on October 07, 2016, 11:55:43 PM
Boomer retired

Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Bill Manspeaker on October 08, 2016, 01:04:47 PM
Jack Steele has officially requested a trade to St Kilda
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: kilbluff1985 on October 08, 2016, 06:10:55 PM
It is believed that Eagles have offered talented forward Jack Darling and their pick 12 for Essendons No.1 pick.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: iZander on October 08, 2016, 06:27:53 PM
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on October 08, 2016, 06:10:55 PM
It is believed that Eagles have offered talented forward Jack Darling and their pick 12 for Essendons No.1 pick.

ooooh, well we will say no but geez id love Darling!!!! hed be perfect to help out Daniher :P
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: RaisyDaisy on October 08, 2016, 06:29:35 PM
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on October 08, 2016, 06:10:55 PM
It is believed that Eagles have offered talented forward Jack Darling and their pick 12 for Essendons No.1 pick.

Who's saying that?

I know the kid expected to go at 1 is a gun, but I'm not liking all this talk about Jack possibly leaving us  :'(
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: elephants on October 08, 2016, 06:36:04 PM
Yeah not sure how that would be any good for either team?

McSuitcase or whatever his name is has already stated he's keen to play for Essendon and that they've "turned a corner".

While we've put all the hard yards into Jack, and at 24 his best footy is in the next 1-6 years and we're in our premiership window right now.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: iZander on October 08, 2016, 06:41:07 PM
Quote from: elephants on October 08, 2016, 06:36:04 PM
Yeah not sure how that would be any good for either team?

McSuitcase or whatever his name is has already stated he's keen to play for Essendon and that they've "turned a corner".

While we've put all the hard yards into Jack, and at 24 his best footy is in the next 1-6 years and we're in our premiership window right now.

I think its nice that a player has expressed interest to move to a lesser team, better than wanting to join hawks or something for a premiership ;)
Although ofcourse, i am bias!!!
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: elephants on October 08, 2016, 06:52:53 PM
Quote from: iZander on October 08, 2016, 06:41:07 PM
Quote from: elephants on October 08, 2016, 06:36:04 PM
Yeah not sure how that would be any good for either team?

McSuitcase or whatever his name is has already stated he's keen to play for Essendon and that they've "turned a corner".

While we've put all the hard yards into Jack, and at 24 his best footy is in the next 1-6 years and we're in our premiership window right now.

I think its nice that a player has expressed interest to move to a lesser team, better than wanting to join hawks or something for a premiership ;)
Although ofcourse, i am bias!!!

Haha bit different though, Essendon are taking him whether he likes it or not :P Would look pretty silly for him to say he wants to join the Hawks or Cats when he's been touted as pick 1 forever and Essendon have said they like him haha
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: iZander on October 08, 2016, 06:55:20 PM
Quote from: elephants on October 08, 2016, 06:52:53 PM
Quote from: iZander on October 08, 2016, 06:41:07 PM
Quote from: elephants on October 08, 2016, 06:36:04 PM
Yeah not sure how that would be any good for either team?

McSuitcase or whatever his name is has already stated he's keen to play for Essendon and that they've "turned a corner".

While we've put all the hard yards into Jack, and at 24 his best footy is in the next 1-6 years and we're in our premiership window right now.

I think its nice that a player has expressed interest to move to a lesser team, better than wanting to join hawks or something for a premiership ;)
Although ofcourse, i am bias!!!

Haha bit different though, Essendon are taking him whether he likes it or not :P Would look pretty silly for him to say he wants to join the Hawks or Cats when he's been touted as pick 1 forever and Essendon have said they like him haha

haha i actually misinterpreted the above comment :P
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: kilbluff1985 on October 08, 2016, 06:59:47 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on October 08, 2016, 06:29:35 PM
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on October 08, 2016, 06:10:55 PM
It is believed that Eagles have offered talented forward Jack Darling and their pick 12 for Essendons No.1 pick.

Who's saying that?

I know the kid expected to go at 1 is a gun, but I'm not liking all this talk about Jack possibly leaving us  :'(

http://www.fantasyfootballnuts.org/eagles-make-offer-for-essendon-1-pick/
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Koop on October 08, 2016, 07:04:47 PM
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on October 08, 2016, 06:59:47 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on October 08, 2016, 06:29:35 PM
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on October 08, 2016, 06:10:55 PM
It is believed that Eagles have offered talented forward Jack Darling and their pick 12 for Essendons No.1 pick.

Who's saying that?

I know the kid expected to go at 1 is a gun, but I'm not liking all this talk about Jack possibly leaving us  :'(

http://www.fantasyfootballnuts.org/eagles-make-offer-for-essendon-1-pick/

Don't believe anything that comes from that site. Probably the most shoddy site in existence for AFL stuff.

The owner/content creator, uses several fake facebook profiles, including ones showing kids, to make his stuff seem genuine and to broadcast to a wide array of supporters. Yet has been proven to copy articles word for word from other sources/ put up clickbait.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: kilbluff1985 on October 09, 2016, 07:02:41 PM
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2016-10-09/trade-period-preview-who-will-your-club-target-and-shop-around
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: AaronKirk on October 09, 2016, 08:28:53 PM
I heard about a massive 4 way trade rumour today from a very good source (toot toot).

Lets see how this plays out when trade period starts tomorrow.

Hawthorn give Pick 14 + Breust for O'Meara and Pick 41
Nth Melbourne give Pick 11 and A.Swallow for J.Riewoldt and Pick 14
Richmond give J.Riewoldt and Pick 6 for Prestia, Pick 11 and Pick 22
Gold Coast give Prestia, O'Meara, Pick 22 + 41 for Breust, J.Riewoldt and pick 6
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: fanTCfool on October 09, 2016, 08:41:10 PM
Quote from: AaronKirk on October 09, 2016, 08:28:53 PM
I heard about a massive 4 way trade rumour today from a very good source (toot toot).

Lets see how this plays out when trade period starts tomorrow.

Hawthorn give Pick 14 + Breust for O'Meara and Pick 41
Nth Melbourne give Pick 11 and A.Swallow for J.Riewoldt and Pick 14
Richmond give J.Riewoldt and Pick 6 for Prestia, Pick 11 and Pick 22
Gold Coast give Prestia, O'Meara, Pick 22 + 41 for Breust, J.Riewoldt and pick 6

What's happening here AK?
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Purple 77 on October 09, 2016, 08:42:37 PM
Quote from: AaronKirk on October 09, 2016, 08:28:53 PM
I heard about a massive 4 way trade rumour today from a very good source (toot toot).

Lets see how this plays out when trade period starts tomorrow.

Hawthorn give Pick 14 + Breust for O'Meara and Pick 41
Nth Melbourne give Pick 11 and A.Swallow for J.Riewoldt and Pick 14
Richmond give J.Riewoldt and Pick 6 for Prestia, Pick 11 and Pick 22
Gold Coast give Prestia, O'Meara, Pick 22 + 41 for Breust, J.Riewoldt and pick 6

Seems unlikely, just because Breust, Riewoldt and Swallow haven't declared they want to be traded, but it does seem like a reasonably fair trade on every line!
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: JBs-Hawks on October 09, 2016, 08:45:41 PM
Richmond for bottom 2 if that trade happens
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: GoLions on October 09, 2016, 08:46:41 PM
Quote from: fanTCfool on October 09, 2016, 08:41:10 PM
Quote from: AaronKirk on October 09, 2016, 08:28:53 PM
I heard about a massive 4 way trade rumour today from a very good source (toot toot).

Lets see how this plays out when trade period starts tomorrow.

Hawthorn give Pick 14 + Breust for O'Meara and Pick 41
Nth Melbourne give Pick 11 and A.Swallow for J.Riewoldt and Pick 14
Richmond give J.Riewoldt and Pick 6 for Prestia, Pick 11 and Pick 22
Gold Coast give Prestia, O'Meara, Pick 22 + 41 for Breust, J.Riewoldt and pick 6

What's happening here AK?
I'd imagine that 2nd Jroo is meant to be A Swallow, which is the only way I can see Swallow leaving (to join David)

Can't see why the Tiges would consider that at all though, forwards would be flowered and Spitter isn't that great
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: fanTCfool on October 09, 2016, 08:58:03 PM
Quote from: GoLions on October 09, 2016, 08:46:41 PM
Quote from: fanTCfool on October 09, 2016, 08:41:10 PM
Quote from: AaronKirk on October 09, 2016, 08:28:53 PM
I heard about a massive 4 way trade rumour today from a very good source (toot toot).

Lets see how this plays out when trade period starts tomorrow.

Hawthorn give Pick 14 + Breust for O'Meara and Pick 41
Nth Melbourne give Pick 11 and A.Swallow for J.Riewoldt and Pick 14
Richmond give J.Riewoldt and Pick 6 for Prestia, Pick 11 and Pick 22
Gold Coast give Prestia, O'Meara, Pick 22 + 41 for Breust, J.Riewoldt and pick 6

What's happening here AK?
I'd imagine that 2nd Jroo is meant to be A Swallow, which is the only way I can see Swallow leaving (to join David)

Can't see why the Tiges would consider that at all though, forwards would be flowered and Spitter isn't that great

This trade is circling online and it is A. Swallow to GC.
Don't mind this one, Hawks with a big pick downgrade to secure O'Meara for Breust.
Richmond will have no forward line whatsoever, unless the intend to keep Vickery?
North just swapping a mid for a forward, nothing too fantastic.
Gold Coast doing well for the players they lose, two gun mids out the door, swapping 22 and 41 for 6 and a small forward to add to their exciting forward line.

Not half bad!
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: kilbluff1985 on October 09, 2016, 09:04:31 PM
herald sun reporting tom mitchell will ask for a trade to Hawthorn tomorrow
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: RaisyDaisy on October 09, 2016, 09:11:43 PM
Freo chasing Hamling

Richmond have not matched Hawks offer for Vickery so he's heading over on just under 500k a year
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: fanTCfool on October 09, 2016, 09:27:01 PM
Richmond adopting Carlton's tactic of playing no tall forwards, will only be Griffiths next year if JRoo is traded.
Enjoy the #1 pick.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: PowerBug on October 09, 2016, 09:28:20 PM
Quote from: fanTCfool on October 09, 2016, 09:27:01 PM
Richmond adopting Carlton's tactic of playing no tall forwards, will only be Griffiths next year if JRoo is traded.
Enjoy the #1 pick.
Or maybe they are adopting the Bulldogs strategy by doing so? ;) Shame (For Richmond) Hardwick isn't Beveridge.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: AaronKirk on October 09, 2016, 09:49:34 PM
That should be Andrew Swallow to Gold Coast instead of Jroo
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: meow meow on October 09, 2016, 09:56:28 PM
Quote from: PowerBug on October 09, 2016, 09:28:20 PM
Quote from: fanTCfool on October 09, 2016, 09:27:01 PM
Richmond adopting Carlton's tactic of playing no tall forwards, will only be Griffiths next year if JRoo is traded.
Enjoy the #1 pick.
Or maybe they are adopting the Bulldogs strategy by doing so? ;) Shame (For Richmond) Hardwick isn't Beveridge.

Cordy is a gun!
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Nige on October 09, 2016, 10:11:15 PM
If Jack leaves, I'm not going to cope very well.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: GoLions on October 09, 2016, 10:14:28 PM
Quote from: Nige on October 09, 2016, 10:11:15 PM
If Jack leaves, I'm not going to cope very well.
You can support Norf!
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Nige on October 09, 2016, 10:25:56 PM
Quote from: GoLions on October 09, 2016, 10:14:28 PM
Quote from: Nige on October 09, 2016, 10:11:15 PM
If Jack leaves, I'm not going to cope very well.
You can support Norf!
I'd rather join Harambe in a better place.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Jay on October 09, 2016, 10:40:46 PM
Quote from: Nige on October 09, 2016, 10:25:56 PM
Quote from: GoLions on October 09, 2016, 10:14:28 PM
Quote from: Nige on October 09, 2016, 10:11:15 PM
If Jack leaves, I'm not going to cope very well.
You can support Norf!
I'd rather join Harambe in a better place.
If only Harambe was traded to a better zoo :(
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Nige on October 09, 2016, 10:51:43 PM
Quote from: Jay on October 09, 2016, 10:40:46 PM
Quote from: Nige on October 09, 2016, 10:25:56 PM
Quote from: GoLions on October 09, 2016, 10:14:28 PM
Quote from: Nige on October 09, 2016, 10:11:15 PM
If Jack leaves, I'm not going to cope very well.
You can support Norf!
I'd rather join Harambe in a better place.
If only Harambe was traded to a better zoo :(
:'(
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: RaisyDaisy on October 10, 2016, 11:58:41 AM
Wells has confirmed he is leaving North

Port still open to offers for HH even though he wants to stay

Geelong have confirmed interest in Lids

Good Chance Barlow and Hanley will move on
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: powersuperkents on October 10, 2016, 12:12:59 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on October 10, 2016, 11:58:41 AM
Wells has confirmed he is leaving North

Port still open to offers for HH even though he wants to stay

Geelong have confirmed interest in Lids

Good Chance Barlow and Hanley will move on
Geelong claimed that they wanted a first round pick for Motlop to focus on youth this off-season... What a load of bs!

They are tilting, but is it really worth it (Hawthorn tilted through trades but they were winning premierships)? This could be a disaster in the long-run, comparable to North Melbourne, if they get Deledio (esp. if their younger players start becoming dissatisfied with the lack of opportunities).

I think the Bulldogs, Magpies and the Saints took the right approach through rebuilds because not many coaches, if not any, can do what Clarko's done.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Purple 77 on October 10, 2016, 12:54:20 PM
Interesting!

But then again, they might actually just be people that look like Gibbs & Walker.

(https://scontent-hkg3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/14632847_1320197404686972_136809266354733204_n.jpg?oh=8a4fcacbd8fa3b759fb4010122719c33&oe=586CBEF9)
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Jay on October 10, 2016, 01:02:01 PM
Geelong will be screwed by 2018 if they bring in a bloke like Deledio. They have no draft picks, depth, or young talent. Good luck!
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: jvalles69 on October 10, 2016, 01:05:19 PM
Quote from: Purple 77 on October 10, 2016, 12:54:20 PM
Interesting!

But then again, they might actually just be people that look like Gibbs & Walker.

(https://scontent-hkg3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/14632847_1320197404686972_136809266354733204_n.jpg?oh=8a4fcacbd8fa3b759fb4010122719c33&oe=586CBEF9)

Sloanes wedding was in Byron Bay this past weekend, considering Gibbs is from SA it's not surprising...
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: iZander on October 10, 2016, 01:06:30 PM
Quote from: Jay on October 10, 2016, 01:02:01 PM
Geelong will be screwed by 2018 if they bring in a bloke like Deledio. They have no draft picks, depth, or young talent. Good luck!
Free agency keeps these teams going mate, and they know it!
No need to go to the draft if you're a popular destination!
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: PowerBug on October 10, 2016, 01:14:13 PM
Quote from: iZander on October 10, 2016, 01:06:30 PM
Quote from: Jay on October 10, 2016, 01:02:01 PM
Geelong will be screwed by 2018 if they bring in a bloke like Deledio. They have no draft picks, depth, or young talent. Good luck!
Free agency keeps these teams going mate, and they know it!
No need to go to the draft if you're a popular destination!
They'll give up future good talent for an injury prone player. Not worth it I agree with Jay.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: iZander on October 10, 2016, 01:18:24 PM
Quote from: PowerBug on October 10, 2016, 01:14:13 PM
Quote from: iZander on October 10, 2016, 01:06:30 PM
Quote from: Jay on October 10, 2016, 01:02:01 PM
Geelong will be screwed by 2018 if they bring in a bloke like Deledio. They have no draft picks, depth, or young talent. Good luck!
Free agency keeps these teams going mate, and they know it!
No need to go to the draft if you're a popular destination!
They'll give up future good talent for an injury prone player. Not worth it I agree with Jay.
Didn't say I'd do it or that it would be worth it at all, but they won't be in trouble if they do haha
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Ricochet on October 10, 2016, 01:19:07 PM
Vickery officially a Hawk.

Tigers compo is currently pick #26
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: SydneyRox on October 10, 2016, 01:24:03 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on October 10, 2016, 01:19:07 PM
Vickery officially a Hawk.

Tigers compo is currently pick #26

Tigers would be stoked with that you would think
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Holz on October 10, 2016, 01:25:34 PM
Quote from: PowerBug on October 10, 2016, 01:14:13 PM
Quote from: iZander on October 10, 2016, 01:06:30 PM
Quote from: Jay on October 10, 2016, 01:02:01 PM
Geelong will be screwed by 2018 if they bring in a bloke like Deledio. They have no draft picks, depth, or young talent. Good luck!
Free agency keeps these teams going mate, and they know it!
No need to go to the draft if you're a popular destination!
They'll give up future good talent for an injury prone player. Not worth it I agree with Jay.

The guy when healthy is a game breaker he can turn Richmond into a winning team. If they have him healthy just in the finals imagine the damage he can do with Selwood and Danger.

just depends what he costs them.

I say push for the flag while you can.



Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Ricochet on October 10, 2016, 01:26:14 PM
Wow, Gibbs has "strong desire to come home"
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Koop on October 10, 2016, 01:28:17 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on October 10, 2016, 01:26:14 PM
Wow, Gibbs has "strong desire to come home"

Huge for Adelaide!
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: RaisyDaisy on October 10, 2016, 01:28:18 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on October 10, 2016, 01:26:14 PM
Wow, Gibbs has "strong desire to come home"

Carlton midfielder Bryce Gibbs has confirmed to both Adelaide and the Blues that he wishes to return to South Australia if a trade between the two clubs can be arranged.

Crows list manager Justin Reid confirmed the news as the Crows exited Etihad Stadium on Monday. 
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: TomK on October 10, 2016, 01:29:37 PM
flower yeah ;D
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Gigantor on October 10, 2016, 01:38:05 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on October 10, 2016, 01:26:14 PM
Wow, Gibbs has "strong desire to come home"

So is Port in the running as well?
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Ricochet on October 10, 2016, 01:39:04 PM
Quote from: Gigantor on October 10, 2016, 01:38:05 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on October 10, 2016, 01:26:14 PM
Wow, Gibbs has "strong desire to come home"

So is Port in the running as well?
Yeh i guess so mate. More likely Adelaide are his target club though
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: meow meow on October 10, 2016, 01:40:28 PM
Could see it on his face that he was just sick of losing after he gives 100%. I am pretty sure that the swans game was when he decided he's had enough. His form dropped a little but he will be huge for a winning team like the Crows.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: SydneyRox on October 10, 2016, 01:41:04 PM
Quote from: Gigantor on October 10, 2016, 01:38:05 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on October 10, 2016, 01:26:14 PM
Wow, Gibbs has "strong desire to come home"

So is Port in the running as well?

HAHA - dreaming!!
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Ricochet on October 10, 2016, 01:42:41 PM
#13 + Lyons overs?

Maybe Henderson instead of Lyons
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: RaisyDaisy on October 10, 2016, 01:44:59 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on October 10, 2016, 01:42:41 PM
#13 + Lyons overs?

Maybe Henderson instead of Lyons

Yeah was thinking the exact same thing - Lyons + Pick

Adelaide love taking all of Carlton's guns lol

(Except Menzel lol)
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: AaronKirk on October 10, 2016, 01:46:33 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on October 10, 2016, 01:42:41 PM
#13 + Lyons overs?

Maybe Henderson instead of Lyons

For a contracted player it is about right.

Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Jay on October 10, 2016, 01:52:44 PM
WHAT A TIME TO BE ALIVE
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Koop on October 10, 2016, 02:00:57 PM
Quote from: SydneyRox on October 10, 2016, 01:41:04 PM
Quote from: Gigantor on October 10, 2016, 01:38:05 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on October 10, 2016, 01:26:14 PM
Wow, Gibbs has "strong desire to come home"

So is Port in the running as well?

HAHA - dreaming!!

We don't even have the cap to sign out uncontracted guys let alone offer money to someone wanting to come home.

Club really cocked it up regarding Lobbe & Hartlett. Doesn't help considering the money that Dixon/Ryder are on.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: AaronKirk on October 10, 2016, 02:23:16 PM
Conca offered a 2 year deal to stay at Richmond.

Richmond interested in Toby Nankervis but Sydney don't want to move him.

Source: Dan Richardson on NAB trade radio.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Purple 77 on October 10, 2016, 02:26:47 PM
*whistles*

Gibbs the first major shock of the trade period!
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: meow meow on October 10, 2016, 02:38:32 PM
The second shock will be Hogan moving. Both he and Melbourne have denied the reports that he's about to sign a new deal.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: RaisyDaisy on October 10, 2016, 02:39:24 PM
Lids has said he is interested in going to Geelong, and the clubs will talk further

Richmond have said they are not interested in Motlop
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Purple 77 on October 10, 2016, 02:48:48 PM
Quote from: meow meow on October 10, 2016, 02:38:32 PM
The second shock will be Hogan moving. Both he and Melbourne have denied the reports that he's about to sign a new deal.

:P
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: kilbluff1985 on October 10, 2016, 02:55:26 PM
Collingwood are interested in Gibbs

Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Ricochet on October 10, 2016, 02:58:31 PM
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on October 10, 2016, 02:55:26 PM
Collingwood are interested in Gibbs
Do the Pies have cap space for Gibbs though?
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Purple 77 on October 10, 2016, 03:01:09 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on October 10, 2016, 02:58:31 PM
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on October 10, 2016, 02:55:26 PM
Collingwood are interested in Gibbs
Do the Pies have cap space for Gibbs though?

How can they afford all these players?
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: kilbluff1985 on October 10, 2016, 03:01:34 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on October 10, 2016, 02:58:31 PM
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on October 10, 2016, 02:55:26 PM
Collingwood are interested in Gibbs
Do the Pies have cap space for Gibbs though?

hopefully someone can explain
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Ricochet on October 10, 2016, 03:06:00 PM
Can add Rockliff to the list now as well
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: DazBurg on October 10, 2016, 03:06:10 PM
Have to ask
Tbag  when you on
Does this mean you lose a sook but gain a sook? Lol ;)
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: kilbluff1985 on October 10, 2016, 03:11:30 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on October 10, 2016, 03:06:00 PM
Can add Rockliff to the list now as well

assumed you were joking but

Collingwood has reportedly made enquiries to the Brisbane Lions surrounding captain Tom Rockliff according to Damien Barrett

lol
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: meow meow on October 10, 2016, 03:14:03 PM
Heard from a good source that Collingwood are getting WHE, Wells, Mayne, JOM, Prestia, Rocky, Hanley, Mitchell, Nankervis, Marchbank, Steele, McCarthy, Stewart, pick 1, Lids, Heartless, Stevens, Emac, Ballas, Barlow, Motlop, Breust, JRoo, Swallow and Lyons in the Cloke deal and that's why it hasn't been done yet.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Jay on October 10, 2016, 03:17:47 PM
Quote from: DazBurg on October 10, 2016, 03:06:10 PM
Have to ask
Tbag  when you on
Does this mean you lose a sook but gain a sook? Lol ;)
Well we were robbed of getting him as a father-son, now he'll just be back where he belongs :P
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Ringo on October 10, 2016, 03:48:08 PM
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on October 10, 2016, 03:11:30 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on October 10, 2016, 03:06:00 PM
Can add Rockliff to the list now as well

assumed you were joking but

Collingwood has reportedly made enquiries to the Brisbane Lions surrounding captain Tom Rockliff according to Damien Barrett

lol
This one does not surprise given Gubby was list manager at Lions originally so may just be a passing query though. Rocky will command $500k plus so do the Pies have that in Salary cap?
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: meow meow on October 10, 2016, 03:53:47 PM
B: Hibberd, MacKenzie, Henderson
HB: Lids, Marchbank, Hanley
C: JOM, Mitchell, Wells
HF: Mayne, Tyrone, Lyons
F: WHE, Cloke, Ballantyne
R: Witts, Gibbs, Meatball
I: HH, Motlop, Barlow, Steele

E: McCarthy, Nankervis, Stewart
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Ringo on October 10, 2016, 04:03:30 PM
Quote from: meow meow on October 10, 2016, 03:53:47 PM
B: Hibberd, MacKenzie, Henderson
HB: Lids, Marchbank, Hanley
C: JOM, Mitchell, Wells
HF: Mayne, Tyrone, Lyons
F: WHE, Cloke, Ballantyne
R: Witts, Gibbs, Meatball
I: HH, Motlop, Barlow, Steele

E: McCarthy, Nankervis, Stewart
Love the team mm who is captain?
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: SydneyRox on October 10, 2016, 04:12:28 PM
Bugger -

Swans have made it official - Mitchell nominates Hawks

Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: powersuperkents on October 10, 2016, 04:14:41 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on October 10, 2016, 01:39:04 PM
Quote from: Gigantor on October 10, 2016, 01:38:05 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on October 10, 2016, 01:26:14 PM
Wow, Gibbs has "strong desire to come home"

So is Port in the running as well?
Yeh i guess so mate. More likely Adelaide are his target club though
Yeah I would say there's literally no chance.

Adelaide seem to have the better list at this point and, ironically, more room in the salary cap by a long-shot (we've really squandered our money and skipped a few years worth of youth getting Polec, Ryder, & Dixon...  :-\ )
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Money Shot on October 10, 2016, 04:16:18 PM
How do you reckon that team would go in the AFL haahha
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: powersuperkents on October 10, 2016, 04:16:46 PM
Quote from: meow meow on October 10, 2016, 03:14:03 PM
Heard from a good source that Collingwood are getting WHE, Wells, Mayne, JOM, Prestia, Rocky, Hanley, Mitchell, Nankervis, Marchbank, Steele, McCarthy, Stewart, pick 1, Lids, Heartless, Stevens, Emac, Ballas, Barlow, Motlop, Breust, JRoo, Swallow and Lyons in the Cloke deal and that's why it hasn't been done yet.
Do they have room in the cap?  :P
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: iZander on October 10, 2016, 04:18:57 PM
Quote from: powersuperkents on October 10, 2016, 04:16:46 PM
Quote from: meow meow on October 10, 2016, 03:14:03 PM
Heard from a good source that Collingwood are getting WHE, Wells, Mayne, JOM, Prestia, Rocky, Hanley, Mitchell, Nankervis, Marchbank, Steele, McCarthy, Stewart, pick 1, Lids, Heartless, Stevens, Emac, Ballas, Barlow, Motlop, Breust, JRoo, Swallow and Lyons in the Cloke deal and that's why it hasn't been done yet.
Do they have room in the cap?  :P
Can someone explain how they have this much room in the cap?
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Ricochet on October 10, 2016, 04:26:07 PM
The Age reporting that Zac Tuohy wants out of the Blues as well
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: RiOtChEsS on October 10, 2016, 04:26:24 PM
so far this trade period is for lack of a better word... PUKE :'(
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Ricochet on October 10, 2016, 04:39:36 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on October 10, 2016, 02:39:24 PM
Lids has said he is interested in going to Geelong, and the clubs will talk further

Richmond have said they are not interested in Motlop
From the club

http://www.richmondfc.com.au/news/2016-10-10/deledio-interested-in-move-to-cats

QuoteBrett Deledio has flagged his interest in joining Geelong, but Steven Motlop will not be part of any deal that sends the star Tiger to the Cattery.

Richmond General Manager - Football Talent, Dan Richardson confirmed Deledio had spoken to the club about the possibility of leaving to join the Cats.

But the Tigers will not explore the option of trading for Geelong speedster Motlop.

"Steve's probably not a player we're interested in so we'll see where we go from there," Richardson said.

The Cats and Tigers held preliminary discussions about a deal involving Deledio at Etihad Stadium on Monday.

"Geelong has expressed their interest and we had some discussions today that didn't progress too far. It's the first days so there's a long way to go," Richardson said.

"We'll see how things pan out. Brett has expressed his interest in joining Geelong as well, but at this stage we won't be letting Brett Deledio go for nothing, that's for sure.

"Today's discussion was really Geelong expressing their interest, which was reasonably strong, and we'll go from there."

Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Scrads on October 10, 2016, 04:57:12 PM
Quote from: Ringo on October 10, 2016, 04:03:30 PM
Quote from: meow meow on October 10, 2016, 03:53:47 PM
B: Hibberd, MacKenzie, Henderson
HB: Lids, Marchbank, Hanley
C: JOM, Mitchell, Wells
HF: Mayne, Tyrone, Lyons
F: WHE, Cloke, Ballantyne
R: Witts, Gibbs, Meatball
I: HH, Motlop, Barlow, Steele

E: McCarthy, Nankervis, Stewart
Love the team mm who is captain?

Has to be Cloke!
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: kilbluff1985 on October 10, 2016, 04:58:00 PM
wonder how close next years 1st round pick maybe + this years pick 35 would get Lids for Geelong
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: shaker on October 10, 2016, 04:59:23 PM
I will be sad to see Lids leave but as long as the Cats can come up with enough compensation for him so be it , very glad they come out and said no to Motlop we don't need another inconsistent lazy player like him
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: AaronKirk on October 10, 2016, 05:04:07 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on October 10, 2016, 04:26:07 PM
The Age reporting that Zac Tuohy wants out of the Blues as well

North have been keen on him for ages.

However apparently Tuohy has nominated Geelong as his preferred club.

If Geelong are to acquire Deledio and Tuohy you would think it is certain that Bartel retires and that both Motlop and Vardy would not be at Geelong next year.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Ricochet on October 10, 2016, 05:05:11 PM
Quote from: AaronKirk on October 10, 2016, 05:04:07 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on October 10, 2016, 04:26:07 PM
The Age reporting that Zac Tuohy wants out of the Blues as well

North have been keen on him for ages.

However apparently Tuohy has nominated Geelong as his preferred club.

If Geelong are to acquire Deledio and Tuohy you would mean it is certain that Bartel retires and that both Motlop and Vardy would not be at Geelong next year.
Or Kersten
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: AaronKirk on October 10, 2016, 05:05:59 PM
Thought I missed one Rico.

Kersten will be with your boys at Freo next year.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Ricochet on October 10, 2016, 05:07:06 PM
Quote from: AaronKirk on October 10, 2016, 05:05:59 PM
Thought I missed one Rico.

Kersten will be with your boys at Freo next year.
Yeh looking likely, which i'm pretty happy about tbh
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: powersuperkents on October 10, 2016, 05:09:08 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on October 10, 2016, 04:26:07 PM
The Age reporting that Zac Tuohy wants out of the Blues as well
Collingwood is going to be stacked with talent  :P
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: RaisyDaisy on October 10, 2016, 06:12:04 PM
Titch has officially nominated Hawthorn
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: kilbluff1985 on October 10, 2016, 06:15:37 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on October 10, 2016, 06:12:04 PM
Titch has officially nominated Hawthorn

poor RD so behind  :P
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: elephants on October 10, 2016, 06:18:15 PM
Richmond will not match Vickery's offer from Hawthorn, I wonder what pick Richmond will receive and if any big names will be declaring their interest in joining the Hawks.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: iZander on October 10, 2016, 06:20:12 PM
Quote from: elephants on October 10, 2016, 06:18:15 PM
Richmond will not match Vickery's offer from Hawthorn, I wonder what pick Richmond will receive and if any big names will be declaring their interest in joining the Hawks.
I thought richmond were receiving N26? or was that a rumour??
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: meow meow on October 10, 2016, 06:23:24 PM
Quote from: iZander on October 10, 2016, 06:20:12 PM
Quote from: elephants on October 10, 2016, 06:18:15 PM
Richmond will not match Vickery's offer from Hawthorn, I wonder what pick Richmond will receive and if any big names will be declaring their interest in joining the Hawks.
I thought richmond were receiving N26? or was that a rumour??

He's taking the urine.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Ringo on October 10, 2016, 06:27:55 PM
Rumour of Rockliff to Pies is getting stronger. But can they afford him. Apparently Rocky has said if he leaves Brisbane pies would be his preferred destination.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: elephants on October 10, 2016, 06:29:19 PM
Quote from: meow meow on October 10, 2016, 06:23:24 PM
Quote from: iZander on October 10, 2016, 06:20:12 PM
Quote from: elephants on October 10, 2016, 06:18:15 PM
Richmond will not match Vickery's offer from Hawthorn, I wonder what pick Richmond will receive and if any big names will be declaring their interest in joining the Hawks.
I thought richmond were receiving N26? or was that a rumour??

He's taking the urine.

Bingo, admittedly was hoping for a better example but quite simply nothing good has happened yet.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: RaisyDaisy on October 10, 2016, 06:32:40 PM
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on October 10, 2016, 06:15:37 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on October 10, 2016, 06:12:04 PM
Titch has officially nominated Hawthorn

poor RD so behind  :P

I had a KB moment  :P
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: RaisyDaisy on October 10, 2016, 06:35:18 PM
6-8 Hawks are being discussed in the JOM deal

Ashcroft wouldn't reveal names, but sounds like Hawks have 6-8 they would entertain trading for JOM

Hawks have denied Bruest will be traded, although his name would be one of the 6-8

(Obviously not 6-8 for JOM, but 1 or 2 of a possible 6-8)
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Mat0369 on October 10, 2016, 06:35:58 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on October 10, 2016, 01:42:41 PM
#13 + Lyons overs?

Maybe Henderson instead of Lyons

If Carlton take that I would be extremely disappointed. There is no way that deal is worth anything near what Gibbs is worth and he is a contracted player on a good deal. SOS better be telling them to F off if that's the best he can do, I'd rather sit him on the sideline until his contract runs out.

Quote from: meow meow on October 10, 2016, 01:40:28 PM
Could see it on his face that he was just sick of losing after he gives 100%. I am pretty sure that the swans game was when he decided he's had enough. His form dropped a little but he will be huge for a winning team like the Crows.

It's to do with his missus apparently, she wants to go home since she is from Adelaide. I'm assuming since they just had a kid that has a bit to do with it as well, otherwise why would he knock back a larger offer to sign on until 2019?
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Ricochet on October 10, 2016, 06:36:44 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on October 10, 2016, 06:35:18 PM
6-8 Hawks are being discussed in the JOM deal

Ashcroft wouldn't reveal names, but sounds like Hawks have 6-8 they would entertain trading for JOM

Hawks have denied Bruest will be traded, although his name would be one of the 6-8
I'm gonna go with Isaac Smith being the one that is used
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: kilbluff1985 on October 10, 2016, 06:37:32 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on October 10, 2016, 06:32:40 PM
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on October 10, 2016, 06:15:37 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on October 10, 2016, 06:12:04 PM
Titch has officially nominated Hawthorn

poor RD so behind  :P

I had a KB moment  :P

bruh  :'(
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: iZander on October 10, 2016, 06:39:47 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on October 10, 2016, 06:36:44 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on October 10, 2016, 06:35:18 PM
6-8 Hawks are being discussed in the JOM deal

Ashcroft wouldn't reveal names, but sounds like Hawks have 6-8 they would entertain trading for JOM

Hawks have denied Bruest will be traded, although his name would be one of the 6-8
I'm gonna go with Isaac Smith being the one that is used
Ill be annoyed if Hawks get the overvalued currency of Hill and Smith.....
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Mat0369 on October 10, 2016, 06:42:04 PM
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on October 10, 2016, 04:58:00 PM
wonder how close next years 1st round pick maybe + this years pick 35 would get Lids for Geelong

They can't, you have to take a minimum of two picks in the first round in a  4 year period using the future trading system. Geelong have no picks to trade since they gave away 2 first last year so it has to be players or recoup picks from elsewhere.

Quote from: RaisyDaisy on October 10, 2016, 06:35:18 PM
6-8 Hawks are being discussed in the JOM deal

Ashcroft wouldn't reveal names, but sounds like Hawks have 6-8 they would entertain trading for JOM

Hawks have denied Bruest will be traded, although his name would be one of the 6-8

(Obviously not 6-8 for JOM, but 1 or 2 of a possible 6-8)

They must be trying to load up on players in that deal because if they expect to get Mitchell as well they will need to give up a first. The thing is who are they offering up? Hill is part of a separate deal, apparently no to Breust, Sicily is one they are talking about, I'm assuming they are looking at offloading a lot of fringe guys like Litherland, Langford, Brand and a couple of others that are out of contract but they aren't going to net you much. Smith and Hartung are probably aren't in the mix since they are losing Hill.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Scrads on October 10, 2016, 06:46:45 PM
Quote from: iZander on October 10, 2016, 06:39:47 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on October 10, 2016, 06:36:44 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on October 10, 2016, 06:35:18 PM
6-8 Hawks are being discussed in the JOM deal

Ashcroft wouldn't reveal names, but sounds like Hawks have 6-8 they would entertain trading for JOM

Hawks have denied Bruest will be traded, although his name would be one of the 6-8
I'm gonna go with Isaac Smith being the one that is used
Ill be annoyed if Hawks get the overvalued currency of Hill and Smith.....

Out of all the players who actually have currency and are regulars in our side, Isaac is probably the one I'm most happy with leaving to get these deals over the line.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Gigantor on October 10, 2016, 06:48:21 PM
Quote from: Mat0369 on October 10, 2016, 06:42:04 PM
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on October 10, 2016, 04:58:00 PM
wonder how close next years 1st round pick maybe + this years pick 35 would get Lids for Geelong

They can't, you have to take a minimum of two picks in the first or 2nd round that are your own with the future trading system. Geelong have no picks to trade since they gave away 2 first last year so it has to be players or recoup picks from elsewhere.

Quote from: RaisyDaisy on October 10, 2016, 06:35:18 PM
6-8 Hawks are being discussed in the JOM deal

Ashcroft wouldn't reveal names, but sounds like Hawks have 6-8 they would entertain trading for JOM

Hawks have denied Bruest will be traded, although his name would be one of the 6-8

(Obviously not 6-8 for JOM, but 1 or 2 of a possible 6-8)

They must be trying to load up on players in that deal because if they expect to get Mitchell as well they will need to give up a first. The thing is who are they offering up? Hill is part of a separate deal, apparently no to Breust, Sicily is one they are talking about, I'm assuming they are looking at offloading a lot of fringe guys like Litherland, Langford, Brand and a couple of others that are out of contract but they aren't going to net you much. Smith and Hartung are probably aren't in the mix since they are losing Hill.

Just had this discussion at work, struggling to see how Hawthorn are going to find the currency to get both of them with out giving up a genuine A grader. Especially Mitchell, its not like Sydney have any glaring gaps in their line up that needs filling, maybe another tall defender to support Grundy and Allir but they aren't super desperate.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: powersuperkents on October 10, 2016, 06:49:24 PM
Quote from: Mat0369 on October 10, 2016, 06:42:04 PM
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on October 10, 2016, 04:58:00 PM
wonder how close next years 1st round pick maybe + this years pick 35 would get Lids for Geelong

They can't, you have to take a minimum of two picks in the first round in a  4 year period using the future trading system. Geelong have no picks to trade since they gave away 2 first last year so it has to be players or recoup picks from elsewhere.

Quote from: RaisyDaisy on October 10, 2016, 06:35:18 PM
6-8 Hawks are being discussed in the JOM deal

Ashcroft wouldn't reveal names, but sounds like Hawks have 6-8 they would entertain trading for JOM

Hawks have denied Bruest will be traded, although his name would be one of the 6-8

(Obviously not 6-8 for JOM, but 1 or 2 of a possible 6-8)

They must be trying to load up on players in that deal because if they expect to get Mitchell as well they will need to give up a first. The thing is who are they offering up? Hill is part of a separate deal, apparently no to Breust, Sicily is one they are talking about, I'm assuming they are looking at offloading a lot of fringe guys like Litherland, Langford, Brand and a couple of others that are out of contract but they aren't going to net you much. Smith and Hartung are probably aren't in the mix since they are losing Hill.
VICKERY to the SUNS anybody?  ;)
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: TomK on October 10, 2016, 06:49:49 PM
Quote from: Mat0369 on October 10, 2016, 06:35:58 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on October 10, 2016, 01:42:41 PM
#13 + Lyons overs?

Maybe Henderson instead of Lyons

If Carlton take that I would be extremely disappointed. There is no way that deal is worth anything near what Gibbs is worth and he is a contracted player on a good deal. SOS better be telling them to F off if that's the best he can do, I'd rather sit him on the sideline until his contract runs out.
What would you want then?
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Mat0369 on October 10, 2016, 06:52:54 PM
Quote from: Gigantor on October 10, 2016, 06:48:21 PM
Just had this discussion at work, struggling to see how Hawthorn are going to find the currency to get both of them with out giving up a genuine A grader. Especially Mitchell, its not like Sydney have any glaring gaps in their line up that needs filling, maybe another tall defender to support Grundy and Allir but they aren't super desperate.

Guys like Brand aren't going to get the deal done. Are they willing to part with someone like Ben Stratton? Stratton and next years first probably gets them closer but it will be interesting to see how it plays out.

Quote from: TomK on October 10, 2016, 06:49:49 PM
What would you want then?

Eddie Betts!

Seriously though, there isn't much Adelaide can offer, pick 13 is too low and the scraps of guys like Grigg, Lyons etc. aren't getting it done. Also we aren't trading for Henderson who is a FA like someone mentioned earlier. Just wait until he becomes a delisted FA then pick him up.

It's likely to be a 3 way deal the more I think about it if it is true. GWS send us Marchbank and Stewart, Adelaide send us a player, Carlton send Gibbs and Adelaide send pick 14 to GWS.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: RaisyDaisy on October 10, 2016, 06:55:26 PM
I reckon Pick 14 + another pick (2nd rounder, future pick etc) is enough to land Titch

Then send a starting player + something for JOM
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: fanTCfool on October 10, 2016, 06:57:36 PM
Quote from: TomK on October 10, 2016, 06:49:49 PM
Quote from: Mat0369 on October 10, 2016, 06:35:58 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on October 10, 2016, 01:42:41 PM
#13 + Lyons overs?

Maybe Henderson instead of Lyons

If Carlton take that I would be extremely disappointed. There is no way that deal is worth anything near what Gibbs is worth and he is a contracted player on a good deal. SOS better be telling them to F off if that's the best he can do, I'd rather sit him on the sideline until his contract runs out.
What would you want then?

I think Lyons and 13 is as good as we're gonna get, maybe throw in a mediocre pick and pluck Mitch Grigg while we're there.
Very sad about Gibbs' decision but it is what it is unfortunately.
Hopefully 13 will get the Marchbank deal done, rather than giving up Pick 5.

Additionally gutted about Tuohy, I really rate him so it's frustrating to think we'll likely get chips for him.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: TomK on October 10, 2016, 06:59:36 PM
Quote from: Mat0369 on October 10, 2016, 06:52:54 PM
Eddie Betts!

Seriously though, there isn't much Adelaide can offer, pick 13 is too low and the scraps of guys like Grigg, Lyons etc. aren't getting it done. Also we aren't trading for Henderson who is a FA like someone mentioned earlier. Just wait until he becomes a delisted FA then pick him up.

It's likely to be a 3 way deal the more I think about it if it is true. GWS send us Marchbank and Stewart, Adelaide send us a player, Carlton send Gibbs and Adelaide send pick 14 to GWS.
Fair enough, it wouldn't surprise me to see a three way deal.

I think you're underselling Lyons a bit though, he had a pretty damn good year. Agree on Grigg not being worth much though.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: kilbluff1985 on October 10, 2016, 07:00:06 PM
cant be that hard for Crows to get a pick upgrade from someone for a fringe player like 13 + Lyons for a better pick
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: SydneyRox on October 10, 2016, 07:01:12 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on October 10, 2016, 06:55:26 PM
I reckon Pick 14 + another pick (2nd rounder, future pick etc) is enough to land Titch

Then send a starting player + something for JOM

Yeah I agree, 14 + next years 2nd round sounds fair to me for Titch

14 on its own isnt enough.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Money Shot on October 10, 2016, 07:02:29 PM
Gibbs for 13 and Lyons
Tuohy for 36 (GEE)
13, 24 and 79 for Marchbank, Stewart and Downie
36 for Hrovat and Honeychurch

Although I'm not a huge fan of that but I feel like something similar could happen!

As long as our pick 5 doesn't get taken off us :P

Not really happy with the Gibbs deal but don't know how we are going to do much better! Maybe a pick 80ish for a Grigg like player
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Spite on October 10, 2016, 07:06:56 PM
Pickett requests trade to Blues so they will probably now have to give up something more significant
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Mat0369 on October 10, 2016, 07:08:09 PM
Quote from: TomK on October 10, 2016, 06:59:36 PM
Fair enough, it wouldn't surprise me to see a three way deal.

I think you're underselling Lyons a bit though, he had a pretty damn good year. Agree on Grigg not being worth much though.

You can say I am underselling him but he is not anywhere near the level of Gibbs and where the pick is likely to fall. Looking at this realistically, once the academy players are picked up 13 will likely become pick 16-20. We're talking about a guy who is a former number 1 overall pick and was looked at to make the AA squad his form was that good this year. He also won a B&F 2 years ago and last year he had some injury issues. The fact he is contracted should make it harder, not easier for the Crows to trade for him.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Mat0369 on October 10, 2016, 07:12:08 PM
Quote from: Spite on October 10, 2016, 07:06:56 PM
Pickett requests trade to Blues so they will probably now have to give up something more significant

If that's true that makes it interesting. I think it comes down to what Adelaide can give GWS to make the deal satisfactory for them. Gibbs basically nets us those 3 and the blow doesn't look as bad.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: meow meow on October 10, 2016, 07:19:15 PM
Gibbs still has another 100+ games in him, easily. No reason why he can't be playing half back again as a 32 year old if needed after some prime midfield seasons. Pick 16 would be insulting.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Mat0369 on October 10, 2016, 07:27:04 PM
Quote from: meow meow on October 10, 2016, 07:19:15 PM
Gibbs still has another 100+ games in him, easily. No reason why he can't be playing half back again as a 32 year old if needed after some prime midfield seasons. Pick 16 would be insulting.

Prestia is 3 years younger then Gibbs and they are expecting pick 6 for him. I'm taking Gibbs over Prestia every day of the week.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: shaker on October 10, 2016, 07:42:46 PM
Am I right Geelong have pick 36 and Motlop and have to find a way to get Lids and Tuohy ?
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: RaisyDaisy on October 10, 2016, 07:44:22 PM
Quote from: shaker on October 10, 2016, 07:42:46 PM
Am I right Geelong have pick 36 and Motlop and have to find a way to get Lids and Tuohy ?

Richmond don't want Motlop, which makes it even harder
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Money Shot on October 10, 2016, 07:51:00 PM
Tuohy for 36 is about right I would say :) feel like both teams would be happy with that!
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: shaker on October 10, 2016, 07:51:16 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on October 10, 2016, 07:44:22 PM
Quote from: shaker on October 10, 2016, 07:42:46 PM
Am I right Geelong have pick 36 and Motlop and have to find a way to get Lids and Tuohy ?

Richmond don't want Motlop, which makes it even harder

Yep I saw that which is good it looks like Motlop may go to the Blues so if they only have 36 they will have to cough up a good player as well for Lids or to another club to get a higher draft pick for him but have not heard any other names tossed up yet
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: meow meow on October 10, 2016, 07:53:23 PM
Cats will probably get something for Kersten Dunst.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: fanTCfool on October 10, 2016, 07:53:54 PM
Quote from: Mat0369 on October 10, 2016, 07:12:08 PM
Quote from: Spite on October 10, 2016, 07:06:56 PM
Pickett requests trade to Blues so they will probably now have to give up something more significant

If that's true that makes it interesting. I think it comes down to what Adelaide can give GWS to make the deal satisfactory for them. Gibbs basically nets us those 3 and the blow doesn't look as bad.

Why are we obliged to take Pickett? I'd prefer the Hrovat and H'Church combo, no need for him.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: JBs-Hawks on October 10, 2016, 07:55:11 PM
Quote from: fanTCfool on October 10, 2016, 07:53:54 PM
Quote from: Mat0369 on October 10, 2016, 07:12:08 PM
Quote from: Spite on October 10, 2016, 07:06:56 PM
Pickett requests trade to Blues so they will probably now have to give up something more significant

If that's true that makes it interesting. I think it comes down to what Adelaide can give GWS to make the deal satisfactory for them. Gibbs basically nets us those 3 and the blow doesn't look as bad.

Why are we obliged to take Pickett? I'd prefer the Hrovat and H'Church combo, no need for him.

Youd rather two VFL players then a top 5 draft pick with pace and potential?
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: elephants on October 10, 2016, 07:58:36 PM
Quote from: JBs-Hawks on October 10, 2016, 07:55:11 PM
Quote from: fanTCfool on October 10, 2016, 07:53:54 PM
Quote from: Mat0369 on October 10, 2016, 07:12:08 PM
Quote from: Spite on October 10, 2016, 07:06:56 PM
Pickett requests trade to Blues so they will probably now have to give up something more significant

If that's true that makes it interesting. I think it comes down to what Adelaide can give GWS to make the deal satisfactory for them. Gibbs basically nets us those 3 and the blow doesn't look as bad.

Why are we obliged to take Pickett? I'd prefer the Hrovat and H'Church combo, no need for him.

Youd rather two VFL players then a top 5 draft pick with pace and potential?

Pickett had a pretty god gut last I saw, and H-Church and Hrovat will carve out good AFL careers imo, bit harsh labeling them VFL players
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: meow meow on October 10, 2016, 08:09:57 PM
Bontempelli, Liberatore, Macrae, Dahlhaus, Hunter, Wallis, Dunkley, Jong, Stevens... even guys like Picken and Clay can't get a spot in that midfield. Webb, Hrovat and Honey are AFL quality but we just happen to have the best young midfield ever so it's difficult to get a spot. Won the VFL flag for a reason.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Mat0369 on October 10, 2016, 08:17:24 PM
Quote from: fanTCfool on October 10, 2016, 07:53:54 PM
Why are we obliged to take Pickett? I'd prefer the Hrovat and H'Church combo, no need for him.

He is a top 5 pick that gives us some outside run. The only issue with him is the injuries which means we might be able to get him at a discount. In terms of potential he has a lot more then either of those guys. 
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Jay on October 10, 2016, 08:22:25 PM
Lyons isn't a fringe player. If he played in Victoria, every Carlton fan would be stoked with #13 + Lyons for Gibbs.

By the time the Carlton rebuild is complete, Gibbs will be old. May as well get some good young talent in!
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: fanTCfool on October 10, 2016, 08:27:37 PM
Quote from: elephants on October 10, 2016, 07:58:36 PM
Quote from: JBs-Hawks on October 10, 2016, 07:55:11 PM
Quote from: fanTCfool on October 10, 2016, 07:53:54 PM
Quote from: Mat0369 on October 10, 2016, 07:12:08 PM
Quote from: Spite on October 10, 2016, 07:06:56 PM
Pickett requests trade to Blues so they will probably now have to give up something more significant

If that's true that makes it interesting. I think it comes down to what Adelaide can give GWS to make the deal satisfactory for them. Gibbs basically nets us those 3 and the blow doesn't look as bad.

Why are we obliged to take Pickett? I'd prefer the Hrovat and H'Church combo, no need for him.

Youd rather two VFL players then a top 5 draft pick with pace and potential?

Pickett had a pretty god gut last I saw, and H-Church and Hrovat will carve out good AFL careers imo, bit harsh labeling them VFL players

As mentioned by m2 and above, Hrovat and H-Church are certainly AFL grade. Pickett would be nice, but I don't think all three is necessary and I prefer the pair of Doggies.

St Kilda have supposedly offered Pick 10 for Tom Mitchell, making it harder for the Hawks to get a deal done, they have to up the ante.

I'd be very tempted to offer Pick 5 for  Mitchell + Towers, Mitchell would fill the Gibbs void reasonably well for the rest of the rebuild as he is younger than Gibbs.

Gibbs and Pick 5 out for Lyons, Pick 13, T Mitch and Towers
Pick 13 for Marchbank
Tuohy for Pick 34
Pick 34 for Hrovat and H-Church
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Rusty00 on October 10, 2016, 08:36:53 PM
Quote from: Scrads on October 10, 2016, 06:46:45 PM
Quote from: iZander on October 10, 2016, 06:39:47 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on October 10, 2016, 06:36:44 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on October 10, 2016, 06:35:18 PM
6-8 Hawks are being discussed in the JOM deal

Ashcroft wouldn't reveal names, but sounds like Hawks have 6-8 they would entertain trading for JOM

Hawks have denied Bruest will be traded, although his name would be one of the 6-8
I'm gonna go with Isaac Smith being the one that is used
Ill be annoyed if Hawks get the overvalued currency of Hill and Smith.....

Out of all the players who actually have currency and are regulars in our side, Isaac is probably the one I'm most happy with leaving to get these deals over the line.
Even with us losing Hill? We'd be left with very little in the outside runners department.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Rusty00 on October 10, 2016, 08:38:59 PM
So I haven't really read into it, but what's the go with Lyons? Does he want to go back to Vic or is he not happy with what the Crows are offering? He had a breakout year this year I find it hard to believe the Crows wouldn't want to keep him?

Or are they following the old sell high strategy?
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: RaisyDaisy on October 10, 2016, 08:40:12 PM
When has a player nominated a club and not got there?

Titch will get to Hawthorn, so Blues supporters should worry about other trades :P

I don't see a problem with Lyons plus 13 fwiw too

Too many fantasy coaches here undervaluing real life picks
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: RaisyDaisy on October 10, 2016, 08:40:56 PM
Quote from: Rusty00 on October 10, 2016, 08:38:59 PM
So I haven't really read into it, but what's the go with Lyons? Does he want to go back to Vic or is he not happy with what the Crows are offering? He had a breakout year this year I find it hard to believe the Crows wouldn't want to keep him?

Or are they following the old sell high strategy?

More or less insulted by their offer
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Ricochet on October 10, 2016, 08:46:00 PM
Quote from: Rusty00 on October 10, 2016, 08:36:53 PM
Quote from: Scrads on October 10, 2016, 06:46:45 PM
Quote from: iZander on October 10, 2016, 06:39:47 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on October 10, 2016, 06:36:44 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on October 10, 2016, 06:35:18 PM
6-8 Hawks are being discussed in the JOM deal

Ashcroft wouldn't reveal names, but sounds like Hawks have 6-8 they would entertain trading for JOM

Hawks have denied Bruest will be traded, although his name would be one of the 6-8
I'm gonna go with Isaac Smith being the one that is used
Ill be annoyed if Hawks get the overvalued currency of Hill and Smith.....

Out of all the players who actually have currency and are regulars in our side, Isaac is probably the one I'm most happy with leaving to get these deals over the line.
Even with us losing Hill? We'd be left with very little in the outside runners department.
Enter Dallas Willsmore
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: _wato on October 11, 2016, 12:46:58 AM
If there's one good thing about all of this

It's that SC 2017 will be very interesting

Already lots of players I'm now considering
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: _wato on October 11, 2016, 12:48:16 AM
Also, plssssss Collingwood don't get Rocky

As much as I love him he carries a toxic culture and we have way too many mids flower
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: lachie_001 on October 11, 2016, 01:26:14 AM
Quote from: Mat0369 on October 10, 2016, 07:08:09 PM
Quote from: TomK on October 10, 2016, 06:59:36 PM
Fair enough, it wouldn't surprise me to see a three way deal.

I think you're underselling Lyons a bit though, he had a pretty damn good year. Agree on Grigg not being worth much though.

You can say I am underselling him but he is not anywhere near the level of Gibbs and where the pick is likely to fall. Looking at this realistically, once the academy players are picked up 13 will likely become pick 16-20. We're talking about a guy who is a former number 1 overall pick and was looked at to make the AA squad his form was that good this year. He also won a B&F 2 years ago and last year he had some injury issues. The fact he is contracted should make it harder, not easier for the Crows to trade for him.

To be honest, I think you are underestimating the value of pick 13. Plus if 13 gets you Caleb Marchbank, I would take that, otherwise take it to the draft and back in your recruiters to find a 10 year player. If I'm Crows I am holding firm with just pick 13 for Gibbs, he'll be 28 by March, has only won one b&f and never been AA. He's still a good player but he wouldn't be in the top 50 players in the AFL. I'd be more than comfortable if Adelaide pass on Gibbs and hold pick 13. Our past record of first rounders are more than sound; Wayne Milera (pick 11), Jake Lever (Pick 14), Matt Crouch (Pick 23), Brodie Smith (Pick 14), Daniel Talia (Pick 13), Phil Davis (Pick 10) and Patrick Dangerfield (Pick 10).
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Money Shot on October 11, 2016, 01:35:52 AM
Gibbs for Pick 13 and Lyons seems fair!

There are a lot of Carlton supporters who think that 13 and Lyons isn't enough but Lyons had a really good year and pick 13 will get us Marchbank. I think it's a win win really.

Really hope we get Lyons as he looks better than Kerridge did and he worked out alright 8)
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Grazz on October 11, 2016, 01:57:48 AM
Quote from: Money Shot on October 11, 2016, 01:35:52 AM
Gibbs for Pick 13 and Lyons seems fair!

There are a lot of Carlton supporters who think that 13 and Lyons isn't enough but Lyons had a really good year and pick 13 will get us Marchbank. I think it's a win win really.

Really hope we get Lyons as he looks better than Kerridge did and he worked out alright 8)

If you do end with Lyons I think you'll be happy. Would like to keep him tbh. Not sure why the Crows haven't given him a better contract offer.

Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Mat0369 on October 11, 2016, 03:19:49 AM
Quote from: Jay on October 10, 2016, 08:22:25 PM
Lyons isn't a fringe player. If he played in Victoria, every Carlton fan would be stoked with #13 + Lyons for Gibbs.

By the time the Carlton rebuild is complete, Gibbs will be old. May as well get some good young talent in!

He started the year in the reserves which is why people are saying he is a fringe player. He built some solid form but Adelaide supporters are overrating him. He is nothing special and if he was Adelaide wouldn't be low balling him on the deal. In a good team he is a forward flank/depth midfielder. We need depth, but we need top line talent in return if we are trading out players the caliber of Gibbs. If I also want to get real smartassy about it, Lyons has less Brownlow votes then Shaun Hampson  :P

Quote from: lachie_001 on October 11, 2016, 01:26:14 AM
To be honest, I think you are underestimating the value of pick 13. Plus if 13 gets you Caleb Marchbank, I would take that, otherwise take it to the draft and back in your recruiters to find a 10 year player. If I'm Crows I am holding firm with just pick 13 for Gibbs, he'll be 28 by March, has only won one b&f and never been AA. He's still a good player but he wouldn't be in the top 50 players in the AFL. I'd be more than comfortable if Adelaide pass on Gibbs and hold pick 13. Our past record of first rounders are more than sound; Wayne Milera (pick 11), Jake Lever (Pick 14), Matt Crouch (Pick 23), Brodie Smith (Pick 14), Daniel Talia (Pick 13), Phil Davis (Pick 10) and Patrick Dangerfield (Pick 10).

Not at all. Like I said earlier, that pick 13 is not really pick 13 when you take academy picks into account with the new system. There will likely be 3 guys picked in the top 13 pushing the pick out to 16. You're effectively getting a mid/end of first round selection and Lyons who is a solid player in a winning team for an A-Grade midfielder.

I think a lot of you are underestimating Gibbs. He is a gun and can play in the midfield and win his own footy or at half back. People still think of him as this soft outside guy that doesn't do jack when it's not true.  He is worth more then that and he is contracted so we hold the leverage.  If he was out of contract then fine, but the fact is we can make him play out his contract and he doesn't really have a say in the matter.

Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Money Shot on October 11, 2016, 09:38:00 AM
Apparently pick 13 was offered for Gibbs and Carlton said no! I'm happy that Carlton are playing hard ball with him!
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: shaker on October 11, 2016, 10:47:10 AM
Quote from: Mat0369 on October 11, 2016, 03:19:49 AM
Quote from: Jay on October 10, 2016, 08:22:25 PM
Lyons isn't a fringe player. If he played in Victoria, every Carlton fan would be stoked with #13 + Lyons for Gibbs.

By the time the Carlton rebuild is complete, Gibbs will be old. May as well get some good young talent in!

He started the year in the reserves which is why people are saying he is a fringe player. He built some solid form but Adelaide supporters are overrating him. He is nothing special and if he was Adelaide wouldn't be low balling him on the deal. In a good team he is a forward flank/depth midfielder. We need depth, but we need top line talent in return if we are trading out players the caliber of Gibbs. If I also want to get real smartassy about it, Lyons has less Brownlow votes then Shaun Hampson  :P

Quote from: lachie_001 on October 11, 2016, 01:26:14 AM
To be honest, I think you are underestimating the value of pick 13. Plus if 13 gets you Caleb Marchbank, I would take that, otherwise take it to the draft and back in your recruiters to find a 10 year player. If I'm Crows I am holding firm with just pick 13 for Gibbs, he'll be 28 by March, has only won one b&f and never been AA. He's still a good player but he wouldn't be in the top 50 players in the AFL. I'd be more than comfortable if Adelaide pass on Gibbs and hold pick 13. Our past record of first rounders are more than sound; Wayne Milera (pick 11), Jake Lever (Pick 14), Matt Crouch (Pick 23), Brodie Smith (Pick 14), Daniel Talia (Pick 13), Phil Davis (Pick 10) and Patrick Dangerfield (Pick 10).

Not at all. Like I said earlier, that pick 13 is not really pick 13 when you take academy picks into account with the new system. There will likely be 3 guys picked in the top 13 pushing the pick out to 16. You're effectively getting a mid/end of first round selection and Lyons who is a solid player in a winning team for an A-Grade midfielder.

I think a lot of you are underestimating Gibbs. He is a gun and can play in the midfield and win his own footy or at half back. People still think of him as this soft outside guy that doesn't do jack when it's not true.  He is worth more then that and he is contracted so we hold the leverage.  If he was out of contract then fine, but the fact is we can make him play out his contract and he doesn't really have a say in the matter.



If the Tiges got offered a 1st round and a decent player for Lids I would be happy sure clubs have to hold out for the best outcome but I think you are overestimating Gibbs worth , like stated only 1 B+F and never AA Gibbs is a good player but not up with the best and both him and Lids are getting on
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: RaisyDaisy on October 11, 2016, 10:50:59 AM
Gibbs isn't "getting on" and I don't know how his age is being questioned

27 turning 28. It's a known fact players are in and entering their absolute prime at this age.

Not making AA doesn't count for much. The 22 best players make it each year, so good players miss out all the time. He is a quality player and close to the best player that will be available this entire draft period. Has to carry a premium

Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Money Shot on October 11, 2016, 11:14:06 AM
Gibbs for 13 and Lyons should make both clubs happy? Blues can keep pick five and use 13 in the trade for Marchbank and get a decent player which would probably struggle to get games with Gibbs there anyways?

Gibbs is in his prime and exactly what Adelaide need! They are willing to give 13 ... Surely Lyons won't be a star for them and blues will have more use for him?
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: lachie_001 on October 11, 2016, 11:24:15 AM
Quote from: Mat0369 on October 11, 2016, 03:19:49 AM
Quote from: Jay on October 10, 2016, 08:22:25 PM
Lyons isn't a fringe player. If he played in Victoria, every Carlton fan would be stoked with #13 + Lyons for Gibbs.

By the time the Carlton rebuild is complete, Gibbs will be old. May as well get some good young talent in!

He started the year in the reserves which is why people are saying he is a fringe player. He built some solid form but Adelaide supporters are overrating him. He is nothing special and if he was Adelaide wouldn't be low balling him on the deal. In a good team he is a forward flank/depth midfielder. We need depth, but we need top line talent in return if we are trading out players the caliber of Gibbs. If I also want to get real smartassy about it, Lyons has less Brownlow votes then Shaun Hampson  :P

Quote from: lachie_001 on October 11, 2016, 01:26:14 AM
To be honest, I think you are underestimating the value of pick 13. Plus if 13 gets you Caleb Marchbank, I would take that, otherwise take it to the draft and back in your recruiters to find a 10 year player. If I'm Crows I am holding firm with just pick 13 for Gibbs, he'll be 28 by March, has only won one b&f and never been AA. He's still a good player but he wouldn't be in the top 50 players in the AFL. I'd be more than comfortable if Adelaide pass on Gibbs and hold pick 13. Our past record of first rounders are more than sound; Wayne Milera (pick 11), Jake Lever (Pick 14), Matt Crouch (Pick 23), Brodie Smith (Pick 14), Daniel Talia (Pick 13), Phil Davis (Pick 10) and Patrick Dangerfield (Pick 10).

Not at all. Like I said earlier, that pick 13 is not really pick 13 when you take academy picks into account with the new system. There will likely be 3 guys picked in the top 13 pushing the pick out to 16. You're effectively getting a mid/end of first round selection and Lyons who is a solid player in a winning team for an A-Grade midfielder.

I think a lot of you are underestimating Gibbs. He is a gun and can play in the midfield and win his own footy or at half back. People still think of him as this soft outside guy that doesn't do jack when it's not true.  He is worth more then that and he is contracted so we hold the leverage.  If he was out of contract then fine, but the fact is we can make him play out his contract and he doesn't really have a say in the matter.
That's fine, you can keep him. Because you have to be realistic on where he is at. He has never been an A grader. On AFL player ranking, he's currently ranked 99. Jarryd Lyons is ranked 135. Now he'll be 28 so he has 4 good years of football left. If Carlton don't take 13, they'll have to lose 5 and go back in the draft for Marchbank. And like I said I'm comfortable with Adelaide passing and using pick 13 to find our own midfielder.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Money Shot on October 11, 2016, 12:02:06 PM
Gibbs was one of the Brownlow favourites midway through the season ... He is an A grader
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: SydneyRox on October 11, 2016, 12:04:26 PM
Quote from: Mat0369 on October 11, 2016, 03:19:49 AM


Quote from: lachie_001 on October 11, 2016, 01:26:14 AM
To be honest, I think you are underestimating the value of pick 13. Plus if 13 gets you Caleb Marchbank, I would take that, otherwise take it to the draft and back in your recruiters to find a 10 year player. If I'm Crows I am holding firm with just pick 13 for Gibbs, he'll be 28 by March, has only won one b&f and never been AA. He's still a good player but he wouldn't be in the top 50 players in the AFL. I'd be more than comfortable if Adelaide pass on Gibbs and hold pick 13. Our past record of first rounders are more than sound; Wayne Milera (pick 11), Jake Lever (Pick 14), Matt Crouch (Pick 23), Brodie Smith (Pick 14), Daniel Talia (Pick 13), Phil Davis (Pick 10) and Patrick Dangerfield (Pick 10).

Not at all. Like I said earlier, that pick 13 is not really pick 13 when you take academy picks into account with the new system. There will likely be 3 guys picked in the top 13 pushing the pick out to 16. You're effectively getting a mid/end of first round selection and Lyons who is a solid player in a winning team for an A-Grade midfielder.

I think a lot of you are underestimating Gibbs. He is a gun and can play in the midfield and win his own footy or at half back. People still think of him as this soft outside guy that doesn't do jack when it's not true.  He is worth more then that and he is contracted so we hold the leverage.  If he was out of contract then fine, but the fact is we can make him play out his contract and he doesn't really have a say in the matter.

You could also take the point that pick 13 in these terms is actually pick 10.

if 3 academy players get selected, (who were never available to you) it means that in terms of players you can select your picks worth more
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Mat0369 on October 11, 2016, 12:06:41 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on October 11, 2016, 10:50:59 AM
Gibbs isn't "getting on" and I don't know how his age is being questioned

27 turning 28. It's a known fact players are in and entering their absolute prime at this age.

Not making AA doesn't count for much. The 22 best players make it each year, so good players miss out all the time. He is a quality player and close to the best player that will be available this entire draft period. Has to carry a premium

Pretty much this.

Quote from: SydneyRox on October 11, 2016, 12:04:26 PM
Quote from: Mat0369 on October 11, 2016, 03:19:49 AM


Quote from: lachie_001 on October 11, 2016, 01:26:14 AM
To be honest, I think you are underestimating the value of pick 13. Plus if 13 gets you Caleb Marchbank, I would take that, otherwise take it to the draft and back in your recruiters to find a 10 year player. If I'm Crows I am holding firm with just pick 13 for Gibbs, he'll be 28 by March, has only won one b&f and never been AA. He's still a good player but he wouldn't be in the top 50 players in the AFL. I'd be more than comfortable if Adelaide pass on Gibbs and hold pick 13. Our past record of first rounders are more than sound; Wayne Milera (pick 11), Jake Lever (Pick 14), Matt Crouch (Pick 23), Brodie Smith (Pick 14), Daniel Talia (Pick 13), Phil Davis (Pick 10) and Patrick Dangerfield (Pick 10).

Not at all. Like I said earlier, that pick 13 is not really pick 13 when you take academy picks into account with the new system. There will likely be 3 guys picked in the top 13 pushing the pick out to 16. You're effectively getting a mid/end of first round selection and Lyons who is a solid player in a winning team for an A-Grade midfielder.

I think a lot of you are underestimating Gibbs. He is a gun and can play in the midfield and win his own footy or at half back. People still think of him as this soft outside guy that doesn't do jack when it's not true.  He is worth more then that and he is contracted so we hold the leverage.  If he was out of contract then fine, but the fact is we can make him play out his contract and he doesn't really have a say in the matter.

You could also take the point that pick 13 in these terms is actually pick 10.

if 3 academy players get selected, (who were never available to you) it means that in terms of players you can select your picks worth more

Not at all, the teams that pick the academy players get to pick again.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: TomK on October 11, 2016, 12:36:21 PM
Quote from: lachie_001 on October 11, 2016, 11:24:15 AM
And like I said I'm comfortable with Adelaide passing and using pick 13 to find our own midfielder.
Which would be absolutely stupid and I hope you know that, we will get it done and I'm confident we won't over pay. If we go to the draft with pick 13 for a midfielder instead of Gibbs, the pick won't be a consistent AFL for another 3-4 years and by then Betts will likely be retired, Sloane, Tex, Talia, Jenkins, Lynch, and Jacobs, pretty much our whole spine will be over 30 or nearing it and likely past their best. We need the midfielders now, not wait a few years for a draftee to perform at AFL level.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Grazz on October 11, 2016, 12:41:29 PM
Quote from: TomK on October 11, 2016, 12:36:21 PM
Quote from: lachie_001 on October 11, 2016, 11:24:15 AM
And like I said I'm comfortable with Adelaide passing and using pick 13 to find our own midfielder.
Which would be absolutely stupid and I hope you know that, we will get it done and I'm confident we won't over pay. If we go to the draft with pick 13 for a midfielder instead of Gibbs, the pick won't be a consistent AFL for another 3-4 years and by then Betts will likely be retired, Sloane, Tex, Talia, Jenkins, Lynch, and Jacobs, pretty much our whole spine will be over 30 or nearing it and likely past their best. We need the midfielders now, not wait a few years for a draftee to perform at AFL level.

Agree. ;)
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: SydneyRox on October 11, 2016, 01:30:26 PM
Quote from: Mat0369 on October 11, 2016, 12:06:41 PM

Quote from: SydneyRox on October 11, 2016, 12:04:26 PM
Quote from: Mat0369 on October 11, 2016, 03:19:49 AM


Quote from: lachie_001 on October 11, 2016, 01:26:14 AM
To be honest, I think you are underestimating the value of pick 13. Plus if 13 gets you Caleb Marchbank, I would take that, otherwise take it to the draft and back in your recruiters to find a 10 year player. If I'm Crows I am holding firm with just pick 13 for Gibbs, he'll be 28 by March, has only won one b&f and never been AA. He's still a good player but he wouldn't be in the top 50 players in the AFL. I'd be more than comfortable if Adelaide pass on Gibbs and hold pick 13. Our past record of first rounders are more than sound; Wayne Milera (pick 11), Jake Lever (Pick 14), Matt Crouch (Pick 23), Brodie Smith (Pick 14), Daniel Talia (Pick 13), Phil Davis (Pick 10) and Patrick Dangerfield (Pick 10).

Not at all. Like I said earlier, that pick 13 is not really pick 13 when you take academy picks into account with the new system. There will likely be 3 guys picked in the top 13 pushing the pick out to 16. You're effectively getting a mid/end of first round selection and Lyons who is a solid player in a winning team for an A-Grade midfielder.

I think a lot of you are underestimating Gibbs. He is a gun and can play in the midfield and win his own footy or at half back. People still think of him as this soft outside guy that doesn't do jack when it's not true.  He is worth more then that and he is contracted so we hold the leverage.  If he was out of contract then fine, but the fact is we can make him play out his contract and he doesn't really have a say in the matter.

You could also take the point that pick 13 in these terms is actually pick 10.

if 3 academy players get selected, (who were never available to you) it means that in terms of players you can select your picks worth more

yeah ok, so 13 to 10 isn't right, but neither is 13 to 16



Not at all, the teams that pick the academy players get to pick again.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: lachie_001 on October 11, 2016, 01:40:07 PM
Quote from: TomK on October 11, 2016, 12:36:21 PM
Quote from: lachie_001 on October 11, 2016, 11:24:15 AM
And like I said I'm comfortable with Adelaide passing and using pick 13 to find our own midfielder.
Which would be absolutely stupid and I hope you know that, we will get it done and I'm confident we won't over pay. If we go to the draft with pick 13 for a midfielder instead of Gibbs, the pick won't be a consistent AFL for another 3-4 years and by then Betts will likely be retired, Sloane, Tex, Talia, Jenkins, Lynch, and Jacobs, pretty much our whole spine will be over 30 or nearing it and likely past their best. We need the midfielders now, not wait a few years for a draftee to perform at AFL level.
No its not stupid, Gibbs isn't going to take Adelaide to its 3rd premiership. Tweaks to the game plan will, Matt and Brad Crouch, Lyons, McGovern, Atkins, Knight, Milera can all go a step further next season. But you need to keep an eye on the future and we have had a lack of first round talent in the last 5 years. I still think we should get Gibbs but I am not prepared to pay overs, and anything more than pick 13 is over. On the open market I think he is actually worth pick 16-19. In regards to keeping pick 13. My point earlier was, if you look at the past recruiting with picks around that area, we always recruit well. Perfect examples are Brodie Smith, Daniel Talia, Jake Lever. So I wouldn't be devastated if nothing eventuated, and we can just have another crack next year with our 2nd round pick lol
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: RaisyDaisy on October 11, 2016, 01:45:26 PM
Quote from: lachie_001 on October 11, 2016, 01:40:07 PM
Quote from: TomK on October 11, 2016, 12:36:21 PM
Quote from: lachie_001 on October 11, 2016, 11:24:15 AM
And like I said I'm comfortable with Adelaide passing and using pick 13 to find our own midfielder.
Which would be absolutely stupid and I hope you know that, we will get it done and I'm confident we won't over pay. If we go to the draft with pick 13 for a midfielder instead of Gibbs, the pick won't be a consistent AFL for another 3-4 years and by then Betts will likely be retired, Sloane, Tex, Talia, Jenkins, Lynch, and Jacobs, pretty much our whole spine will be over 30 or nearing it and likely past their best. We need the midfielders now, not wait a few years for a draftee to perform at AFL level.
No its not stupid, Gibbs isn't going to take Adelaide to its 3rd premiership. Tweaks to the game plan will, Matt and Brad Crouch, Lyons, McGovern, Atkins, Knight, Milera can all go a step further next season. But you need to keep an eye on the future and we have had a lack of first round talent in the last 5 years. I still think we should get Gibbs but I am not prepared to pay overs, and anything more than pick 13 is over. On the open market I think he is actually worth pick 16-19. In regards to keeping pick 13. My point earlier was, if you look at the past recruiting with picks around that area, we always recruit well. Perfect examples are Brodie Smith, Daniel Talia, Jake Lever. So I wouldn't be devastated if nothing eventuated, and we can just have another crack next year with our 2nd round pick lol

Is one years first rounder (This year) really going to impact your future? You're in the premiership window now and Gibbs is exactly what you need. You can always get more kids next year, the year after etc. Players like Gibbs don't come available (and ask to be traded to you) too often
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Ricochet on October 11, 2016, 01:46:36 PM
I'd happily pay overs if I was Adelaide
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: elephants on October 11, 2016, 01:47:35 PM
Yep, when a player like Gibbs wants to come to your club you've gotta just get it done.

Definitely an A-Grader imo
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: TomK on October 11, 2016, 01:51:31 PM
Quote from: lachie_001 on October 11, 2016, 01:40:07 PM
Quote from: TomK on October 11, 2016, 12:36:21 PM
Quote from: lachie_001 on October 11, 2016, 11:24:15 AM
And like I said I'm comfortable with Adelaide passing and using pick 13 to find our own midfielder.
Which would be absolutely stupid and I hope you know that, we will get it done and I'm confident we won't over pay. If we go to the draft with pick 13 for a midfielder instead of Gibbs, the pick won't be a consistent AFL for another 3-4 years and by then Betts will likely be retired, Sloane, Tex, Talia, Jenkins, Lynch, and Jacobs, pretty much our whole spine will be over 30 or nearing it and likely past their best. We need the midfielders now, not wait a few years for a draftee to perform at AFL level.
No its not stupid, Gibbs isn't going to take Adelaide to its 3rd premiership. Tweaks to the game plan will, Matt and Brad Crouch, Lyons, McGovern, Atkins, Knight, Milera can all go a step further next season. But you need to keep an eye on the future and we have had a lack of first round talent in the last 5 years. I still think we should get Gibbs but I am not prepared to pay overs, and anything more than pick 13 is over. On the open market I think he is actually worth pick 16-19. In regards to keeping pick 13. My point earlier was, if you look at the past recruiting with picks around that area, we always recruit well. Perfect examples are Brodie Smith, Daniel Talia, Jake Lever. So I wouldn't be devastated if nothing eventuated, and we can just have another crack next year with our 2nd round pick lol
Tweaks to the game plan will not get us a flag either. Sloane, Matt and Brad Crouch as the only full time reliable midfielders will not cut it against the best teams, I thought that was painfully obvious against the Swans and Eagles. We'll be a hell of a lot closer with Gibbs instead of pick 13. We picked up two first rounders last year so losing one this year doesn't matter that much and our young talent/depth is pretty good at the moment. You are severely underrating Bryce Gibbs as well, bloke is an absolute star and if we got him just for pick 13, we would be running away like bandits. Also when he comes to the twilight of his career, I'm pretty confident he would be able to finish on a back flank, similar to Boyd. His skills are exactly what we need in our midfield right now.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Gigantor on October 11, 2016, 01:53:43 PM
Do you think Gibbs would have asked for a trade if Adelaide finished the year with a similar ladder position to Carlton?
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: iZander on October 11, 2016, 01:56:02 PM
Quote from: Gigantor on October 11, 2016, 01:53:43 PM
Do you think Gibbs would have asked for a trade if Adelaide finished the year with a similar ladder position to Carlton?
No, i do not haha
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: TomK on October 11, 2016, 01:59:18 PM
Quote from: Gigantor on October 11, 2016, 01:53:43 PM
Do you think Gibbs would have asked for a trade if Adelaide finished the year with a similar ladder position to Carlton?
They're moving for family apparently, they just had a kid I think so no idea :P
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Holz on October 11, 2016, 02:03:40 PM
If Gibbs was available in the draft where do people see him going. I reckon clubs would be foolish not to take him at pick 5.

Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: _wato on October 11, 2016, 02:05:07 PM
Gibbs is a weird one, started his career like a house on fire then went missing for 3/4 years and then went nuts this year

If you rate him on his year just gone you'd say 13 + Lyons is about right

However previous years you'd say a late first round might be fine
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Holz on October 11, 2016, 02:07:34 PM
Quote from: _wato on October 11, 2016, 02:05:07 PM
Gibbs is a weird one, started his career like a house on fire then went missing for 3/4 years and then went nuts this year

If you rate him on his year just gone you'd say 13 + Lyons is about right

However previous years you'd say a late first round might be fine

he did start insane then fall away abit but his 2014 was pretty good.

I think really only 2015 he had a bad year, his other years were decent enough.

much better then punting on the draft with pick 16.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: elephants on October 11, 2016, 02:10:58 PM
Quote from: Holz on October 11, 2016, 02:07:34 PM
Quote from: _wato on October 11, 2016, 02:05:07 PM
Gibbs is a weird one, started his career like a house on fire then went missing for 3/4 years and then went nuts this year

If you rate him on his year just gone you'd say 13 + Lyons is about right

However previous years you'd say a late first round might be fine

he did start insane then fall away abit but his 2014 was pretty good.

I think really only 2015 he had a bad year, his other years were decent enough.

much better then punting on the draft with pick 16.

This is the thing, could be a no-namer you pick up for Gibbs who probably has 4-5 years left...

13 + Lyons would be fine, but if I was Adelaide I'd be prepped to offer even more to get it done.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: _wato on October 11, 2016, 02:12:46 PM
Quote from: Holz on October 11, 2016, 02:07:34 PM
Quote from: _wato on October 11, 2016, 02:05:07 PM
Gibbs is a weird one, started his career like a house on fire then went missing for 3/4 years and then went nuts this year

If you rate him on his year just gone you'd say 13 + Lyons is about right

However previous years you'd say a late first round might be fine

he did start insane then fall away abit but his 2014 was pretty good.

I think really only 2015 he had a bad year, his other years were decent enough.

much better then punting on the draft with pick 16.

Yeah saying he went missing is harsh, falling away is a better term. But agree 100%

Very very tidy acquisition for the Crows, instantly a better side now. They lacked in the midfield and get a ready made gun
Reckon he'll enjoy changing nothing about his game too to fit in, Sloane will take over the grunt work from Cripps and he can play exactly as he did this year
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: RiOtChEsS on October 11, 2016, 02:17:49 PM
Quote from: elephants on October 11, 2016, 02:10:58 PM
Quote from: Holz on October 11, 2016, 02:07:34 PM
Quote from: _wato on October 11, 2016, 02:05:07 PM
Gibbs is a weird one, started his career like a house on fire then went missing for 3/4 years and then went nuts this year

If you rate him on his year just gone you'd say 13 + Lyons is about right

However previous years you'd say a late first round might be fine

he did start insane then fall away abit but his 2014 was pretty good.

I think really only 2015 he had a bad year, his other years were decent enough.

much better then punting on the draft with pick 16.

This is the thing, could be a no-namer you pick up for Gibbs who probably has 4-5 years left...

13 + Lyons would be fine, but if I was Adelaide I'd be prepped to offer even more to get it done.
McLovin Jr and Lyons
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: RiOtChEsS on October 11, 2016, 02:20:22 PM
 
Midfielder Jarryd Lyons will travel to Melbourne this week to work through his options, but his manager says he still intends to stay with Adelaide. 

Six clubs, both in Victoria and other states, have contacted Lyons's management to check on his status during the NAB AFL Trade Period. 

The 24-year-old has been linked to Carlton as part of discussions to send Bryce Gibbs to the Crows, but it is now unlikely he will be part of that deal.

He has been offered a contract to stay with Adelaide but was not satisfied with the club's initial offer and is exploring other opportunities.

Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: kilbluff1985 on October 11, 2016, 02:34:08 PM
i love the pointless debates about Gibbs value lol
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: shaker on October 11, 2016, 02:36:34 PM
Have Carlton been offered pick 13 and Lyons or just pick 13 ? because Lyons will be grabbed by another club in a heartbeat , if the Crows have to start using future picks as well they may as well chase Rockliff or Mitchell which IMO are exactly the type of mids that they need
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: lachie_001 on October 11, 2016, 02:43:29 PM
Quote from: RiOtChEsS on October 11, 2016, 02:17:49 PM
Quote from: elephants on October 11, 2016, 02:10:58 PM
Quote from: Holz on October 11, 2016, 02:07:34 PM
Quote from: _wato on October 11, 2016, 02:05:07 PM
Gibbs is a weird one, started his career like a house on fire then went missing for 3/4 years and then went nuts this year

If you rate him on his year just gone you'd say 13 + Lyons is about right

However previous years you'd say a late first round might be fine

he did start insane then fall away abit but his 2014 was pretty good.

I think really only 2015 he had a bad year, his other years were decent enough.

much better then punting on the draft with pick 16.

This is the thing, could be a no-namer you pick up for Gibbs who probably has 4-5 years left...

13 + Lyons would be fine, but if I was Adelaide I'd be prepped to offer even more to get it done.
McLovin Jr and Lyons
Rucci throwing up McGovern and BCrouch as a sweetener to pick 13 lol, wouldn't even straight swap bcrouch for gibbs and no chance McGovern he's going to be a star.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: elephants on October 11, 2016, 02:47:58 PM
Quote from: lachie_001 on October 11, 2016, 02:43:29 PM
Quote from: RiOtChEsS on October 11, 2016, 02:17:49 PM
Quote from: elephants on October 11, 2016, 02:10:58 PM
Quote from: Holz on October 11, 2016, 02:07:34 PM
Quote from: _wato on October 11, 2016, 02:05:07 PM
Gibbs is a weird one, started his career like a house on fire then went missing for 3/4 years and then went nuts this year

If you rate him on his year just gone you'd say 13 + Lyons is about right

However previous years you'd say a late first round might be fine

he did start insane then fall away abit but his 2014 was pretty good.

I think really only 2015 he had a bad year, his other years were decent enough.

much better then punting on the draft with pick 16.

This is the thing, could be a no-namer you pick up for Gibbs who probably has 4-5 years left...

13 + Lyons would be fine, but if I was Adelaide I'd be prepped to offer even more to get it done.
McLovin Jr and Lyons
Rucci throwing up McGovern and BCrouch as a sweetener to pick 13 lol, wouldn't even straight swap bcrouch for gibbs and no chance McGovern he's going to be a star.

Its a good job you're not an AFL trade manager haha, you've gotta give some to get some!
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: TomK on October 11, 2016, 02:50:06 PM
Quote from: RiOtChEsS on October 11, 2016, 02:20:22 PM

Midfielder Jarryd Lyons will travel to Melbourne this week to work through his options, but his manager says he still intends to stay with Adelaide. 

Six clubs, both in Victoria and other states, have contacted Lyons's management to check on his status during the NAB AFL Trade Period. 

The 24-year-old has been linked to Carlton as part of discussions to send Bryce Gibbs to the Crows, but it is now unlikely he will be part of that deal.

He has been offered a contract to stay with Adelaide but was not satisfied with the club's initial offer and is exploring other opportunities.
Interesting, there was talk of the Suns being interested, perhaps Lyons to the Suns for an early-mid 20's pick since they have so many. Then 13, that pick and Grigg as steak knives maybe? I don't know, this deal is too hard to predict.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: TomK on October 11, 2016, 02:51:38 PM
Quote from: elephants on October 11, 2016, 02:47:58 PM
Quote from: lachie_001 on October 11, 2016, 02:43:29 PM
Quote from: RiOtChEsS on October 11, 2016, 02:17:49 PM
Quote from: elephants on October 11, 2016, 02:10:58 PM
Quote from: Holz on October 11, 2016, 02:07:34 PM
Quote from: _wato on October 11, 2016, 02:05:07 PM
Gibbs is a weird one, started his career like a house on fire then went missing for 3/4 years and then went nuts this year

If you rate him on his year just gone you'd say 13 + Lyons is about right

However previous years you'd say a late first round might be fine

he did start insane then fall away abit but his 2014 was pretty good.

I think really only 2015 he had a bad year, his other years were decent enough.

much better then punting on the draft with pick 16.

This is the thing, could be a no-namer you pick up for Gibbs who probably has 4-5 years left...

13 + Lyons would be fine, but if I was Adelaide I'd be prepped to offer even more to get it done.
McLovin Jr and Lyons
Rucci throwing up McGovern and BCrouch as a sweetener to pick 13 lol, wouldn't even straight swap bcrouch for gibbs and no chance McGovern he's going to be a star.

Its a good job you're not an AFL trade manager haha, you've gotta give some to get some!
Not Crouch or McGovern though. Either of them along with 13 would be way overs. I wouldn't even want the the club to do a straight swap with either.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: lachie_001 on October 11, 2016, 02:51:50 PM
Quote from: shaker on October 11, 2016, 02:36:34 PM
Have Carlton been offered pick 13 and Lyons or just pick 13 ? because Lyons will be grabbed by another club in a heartbeat , if the Crows have to start using future picks as well they may as well chase Rockliff or Mitchell which IMO are exactly the type of mids that they need
I think they've offered Lyons an insulting contract to push him out in the Gibbs deal. But I think he genuinely would prefer to stay with Adelaide. Grigg could be a chance, but Carlton supporters might want to remember that we won 16 games in H&A season and had relatively no injuries, so when you perform to that standard blokes in the SANFL find it really hard to crack into the side. Blokes like Grigg and CEY would consider themselves very unlucky because they have absolutely killed it in the SANFL and would play regular AFL footy in other clubs.

Also Lyons is no fringe player, in most Adelaide supporters opinions, and mine personally, I was very frustrated with the club earlier in the year for dropping him.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Jay on October 11, 2016, 02:52:10 PM
Anything more than 13 + Lyons and I'd have to seriously think about whether I want us to do it or not.

13 + Lyons is a fair offer and you either severely underrate Lyons or overrate Gibbs if you don't think so imo.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: lachie_001 on October 11, 2016, 02:56:28 PM
Quote from: elephants on October 11, 2016, 02:47:58 PM
Quote from: lachie_001 on October 11, 2016, 02:43:29 PM
Quote from: RiOtChEsS on October 11, 2016, 02:17:49 PM
Quote from: elephants on October 11, 2016, 02:10:58 PM
Quote from: Holz on October 11, 2016, 02:07:34 PM
Quote from: _wato on October 11, 2016, 02:05:07 PM
Gibbs is a weird one, started his career like a house on fire then went missing for 3/4 years and then went nuts this year

If you rate him on his year just gone you'd say 13 + Lyons is about right

However previous years you'd say a late first round might be fine

he did start insane then fall away abit but his 2014 was pretty good.

I think really only 2015 he had a bad year, his other years were decent enough.

much better then punting on the draft with pick 16.

This is the thing, could be a no-namer you pick up for Gibbs who probably has 4-5 years left...

13 + Lyons would be fine, but if I was Adelaide I'd be prepped to offer even more to get it done.
McLovin Jr and Lyons
Rucci throwing up McGovern and BCrouch as a sweetener to pick 13 lol, wouldn't even straight swap bcrouch for gibbs and no chance McGovern he's going to be a star.

Its a good job you're not an AFL trade manager haha, you've gotta give some to get some!
Yes you have to give something, but you don't giving away your future stars for 28 year olds. Pick 13 + Lyons is more than fair. And on trade radio, most have valued Gibbs as being worth only pick 13.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Koop on October 11, 2016, 02:59:22 PM
I'm of the opinion that Carlton should play hardball and ask for two first rounders. Treloar was worth that, even though Gibbs is older, he is on contract and should be worth about the same imo. 13 + Lyons is okay but Carlton need to get a future rejuvenation out of this.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: elephants on October 11, 2016, 03:03:10 PM
Quote from: lachie_001 on October 11, 2016, 02:56:28 PM
Quote from: elephants on October 11, 2016, 02:47:58 PM
Quote from: lachie_001 on October 11, 2016, 02:43:29 PM
Quote from: RiOtChEsS on October 11, 2016, 02:17:49 PM
Quote from: elephants on October 11, 2016, 02:10:58 PM
Quote from: Holz on October 11, 2016, 02:07:34 PM
Quote from: _wato on October 11, 2016, 02:05:07 PM
Gibbs is a weird one, started his career like a house on fire then went missing for 3/4 years and then went nuts this year

If you rate him on his year just gone you'd say 13 + Lyons is about right

However previous years you'd say a late first round might be fine

he did start insane then fall away abit but his 2014 was pretty good.

I think really only 2015 he had a bad year, his other years were decent enough.

much better then punting on the draft with pick 16.

This is the thing, could be a no-namer you pick up for Gibbs who probably has 4-5 years left...

13 + Lyons would be fine, but if I was Adelaide I'd be prepped to offer even more to get it done.
McLovin Jr and Lyons
Rucci throwing up McGovern and BCrouch as a sweetener to pick 13 lol, wouldn't even straight swap bcrouch for gibbs and no chance McGovern he's going to be a star.

Its a good job you're not an AFL trade manager haha, you've gotta give some to get some!
Yes you have to give something, but you don't giving away your future stars for 28 year olds. Pick 13 + Lyons is more than fair. And on trade radio, most have valued Gibbs as being worth only pick 13.

Well, 27, but okay.

Does Lyons want to go? Do Carlton want Lyons? Its not as simple as you're making it out to be.

Sure Gibbs wants to go home, but he's contracted so if the Crows don't satisfy Carlton then they will just keep him and let him walk to Adelaide and cop the AFL compensatory pick for him (which will probably be a first rounder if flowering Vickery gets a second). By which time Gibbs will be olllllllld and worth shower all.

Not as good as Lyons + N13? Sure. But they could well make a stand here, and you gotta understand they don't have zero leverage.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: iZander on October 11, 2016, 03:04:04 PM
Quote from: Koop on October 11, 2016, 02:59:22 PM
I'm of the opinion that Carlton should play hardball and ask for two first rounders. Treloar was worth that, even though Gibbs is older, he is on contract and should be worth about the same imo. 13 + Lyons is okay but Carlton need to get a future rejuvenation out of this.

Well Gibbs isnt close to Trelour imo but i tend to agree thats what they should ask for, given adelaide will be very keen to get him and probably pay overs!
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: JBs-Hawks on October 11, 2016, 03:07:08 PM
Quote from: shaker on October 11, 2016, 02:36:34 PM
Have Carlton been offered pick 13 and Lyons or just pick 13 ? because Lyons will be grabbed by another club in a heartbeat , if the Crows have to start using future picks as well they may as well chase Rockliff or Mitchell which IMO are exactly the type of mids that they need

Ya kidding right? Sloane, crouch x2, thompson are all exactly the same type of mids as mitchell and rockliff. Gibbs is the unique ball carrying penetrating polish youd want to complement your bulls doing the grunt.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: AaronKirk on October 11, 2016, 03:08:36 PM
If Richmond are to send Deledio to Geelong they want Josh Caddy to be part of the deal.

Caddy is good mates with Prestia.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: elephants on October 11, 2016, 03:09:15 PM
Quote from: meow meow on October 11, 2016, 03:08:24 PM
Gibbs can't just walk to the Crows after next year. He's got 3 years left on his contact.

Yeah who said he could?
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: meow meow on October 11, 2016, 03:10:14 PM
Quote from: elephants on October 11, 2016, 03:09:15 PM
Quote from: meow meow on October 11, 2016, 03:08:24 PM
Gibbs is a gun

Yeah who said he could?

Who said he can't?!
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: lachie_001 on October 11, 2016, 03:19:13 PM
Quote from: elephants on October 11, 2016, 03:03:10 PM
Quote from: lachie_001 on October 11, 2016, 02:56:28 PM
Quote from: elephants on October 11, 2016, 02:47:58 PM
Quote from: lachie_001 on October 11, 2016, 02:43:29 PM
Quote from: RiOtChEsS on October 11, 2016, 02:17:49 PM
Quote from: elephants on October 11, 2016, 02:10:58 PM
Quote from: Holz on October 11, 2016, 02:07:34 PM
Quote from: _wato on October 11, 2016, 02:05:07 PM
Gibbs is a weird one, started his career like a house on fire then went missing for 3/4 years and then went nuts this year

If you rate him on his year just gone you'd say 13 + Lyons is about right

However previous years you'd say a late first round might be fine

he did start insane then fall away abit but his 2014 was pretty good.

I think really only 2015 he had a bad year, his other years were decent enough.

much better then punting on the draft with pick 16.

This is the thing, could be a no-namer you pick up for Gibbs who probably has 4-5 years left...

13 + Lyons would be fine, but if I was Adelaide I'd be prepped to offer even more to get it done.
McLovin Jr and Lyons
Rucci throwing up McGovern and BCrouch as a sweetener to pick 13 lol, wouldn't even straight swap bcrouch for gibbs and no chance McGovern he's going to be a star.

Its a good job you're not an AFL trade manager haha, you've gotta give some to get some!
Yes you have to give something, but you don't giving away your future stars for 28 year olds. Pick 13 + Lyons is more than fair. And on trade radio, most have valued Gibbs as being worth only pick 13.

Well, 27, but okay.

Does Lyons want to go? Do Carlton want Lyons? Its not as simple as you're making it out to be.

Sure Gibbs wants to go home, but he's contracted so if the Crows don't satisfy Carlton then they will just keep him and let him walk to Adelaide and cop the AFL compensatory pick for him (which will probably be a first rounder if flowering Vickery gets a second). By which time Gibbs will be olllllllld and worth shower all.

Not as good as Lyons + N13? Sure. But they could well make a stand here, and you gotta understand they don't have zero leverage.
And Adelaide don't have zero leverage either because if Carlton don't deal with us for pick 13, Carlton will be losing pick 5 as part of the Marchbank deal. Start of next season he will be 28. So yes he is a good player but Carlton are in a rebuild and they will only get another 4 quality years out of Gibbs, so isn't worth much more than pick 13. So provided Adelaide can convince Lyons to leave to Carlton, I would take that deal.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Money Shot on October 11, 2016, 03:21:28 PM
I can't see why Carlton wouldn't want Lyons! He is really under rated over here in Vic! He is a solid player and pick 13 would probably be about right if he wasn't a contracted player!
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: lachie_001 on October 11, 2016, 03:24:41 PM
Quote from: Money Shot on October 11, 2016, 03:21:28 PM
I can't see why Carlton wouldn't want Lyons! He is really under rated over here in Vic! He is a solid player and pick 13 would probably be about right if he wasn't a contracted player!
Exactly so if Carlton can get Lyons as part of this deal, that is win for Carlton because in the long run, they'll add Lyons who is better than Kerridge if that helps Carlton supporters compare. They get to keep 5 and use 13 to get Marchbank and probably Stewart and Pickett.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: kilbluff1985 on October 11, 2016, 03:27:26 PM
13+ Lyons to GC for 8
8 for Gibbs

sounds good to me Crows might need to add a 3rd rounder or something for GC
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: RiOtChEsS on October 11, 2016, 03:28:12 PM
Quote from: lachie_001 on October 11, 2016, 03:24:41 PM
Quote from: Money Shot on October 11, 2016, 03:21:28 PM
I can't see why Carlton wouldn't want Lyons! He is really under rated over here in Vic! He is a solid player and pick 13 would probably be about right if he wasn't a contracted player!
Exactly so if Carlton can get Lyons as part of this deal, that is win for Carlton because in the long run, they'll add Lyons who is better than Kerridge if that helps Carlton supporters compare. They get to keep 5 and use 13 to get Marchbank and probably Stewart and Pickett.
its a negotiation, overs and unders are gonna be tossed about to see who wants what the most ;)
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Money Shot on October 11, 2016, 03:50:29 PM
Quote from: lachie_001 on October 11, 2016, 03:24:41 PM
Quote from: Money Shot on October 11, 2016, 03:21:28 PM
I can't see why Carlton wouldn't want Lyons! He is really under rated over here in Vic! He is a solid player and pick 13 would probably be about right if he wasn't a contracted player!
Exactly so if Carlton can get Lyons as part of this deal, that is win for Carlton because in the long run, they'll add Lyons who is better than Kerridge if that helps Carlton supporters compare. They get to keep 5 and use 13 to get Marchbank and probably Stewart and Pickett.
The more I look at it the more I want 13 and Lyons! But Lyons doesn't seem likely anymore :(
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: shaker on October 11, 2016, 04:00:34 PM
Tigers single out Caddy in Lids deal
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: jvalles69 on October 11, 2016, 04:47:42 PM
Quote from: shaker on October 11, 2016, 04:00:34 PM
Tigers single out Caddy in Lids deal

Hope they want more than that, or Richmond are even dumber than I thought!
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Torpedo10 on October 11, 2016, 04:55:34 PM
Quote from: jvalles69 on October 11, 2016, 04:47:42 PM
Quote from: shaker on October 11, 2016, 04:00:34 PM
Tigers single out Caddy in Lids deal

Hope they want more than that, or Richmond are even dumber than I thought!
Really?

Caddy is quality, a fair straight swap IMO.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: elephants on October 11, 2016, 05:12:19 PM
Quote from: Torpedo10 on October 11, 2016, 04:55:34 PM
Quote from: jvalles69 on October 11, 2016, 04:47:42 PM
Quote from: shaker on October 11, 2016, 04:00:34 PM
Tigers single out Caddy in Lids deal

Hope they want more than that, or Richmond are even dumber than I thought!
Really?

Caddy is quality, a fair straight swap IMO.

I also rate Caddy, and given the injuries that Lids has had of late...

Would screw Geelong though, not only giving away their future picks, also giving away what quality youth they have!!
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Gigantor on October 11, 2016, 05:13:49 PM
Wells a Pie, North to receive pick 32 as compo, 600k a year, 3 years is the rumored contract.

I feel like this is a bad idea from the Pies, will be 32 in Feb and has shown his body is made of paper in recent years. Yeah he is quality when healthy but he could end up playing only 20 games over three years.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Nige on October 11, 2016, 05:15:18 PM
Quote from: Gigantor on October 11, 2016, 05:13:49 PM
Wells a Pie, North to receive pick 32 as compo, 600k a year, 3 years is the rumored contract.

I feel like this is a bad idea from the Pies, will be 32 in Feb and has shown his body is made of paper in recent years. Yeah he is quality when healthy but he could end up playing only 20 games over three years.
Presumably performance based with a trigger for a third year?
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: elephants on October 11, 2016, 05:17:54 PM
flower me dead, Wells should be laughing all he way to the bank.

I mean, 600k a year!? How do the Pies even afford that?
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Jukes on October 11, 2016, 05:31:59 PM
Geez Bucks is incompetent - 600k a year for an old, injury-prone bloke (who's not even that amazing anyway) and they're not even near their premiership window
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: JBs-Hawks on October 11, 2016, 05:32:50 PM
First trade done, GWS get #3
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Money Shot on October 11, 2016, 05:35:30 PM
Quote from: JBs-Hawks on October 11, 2016, 05:32:50 PM
First trade done, GWS get #3
Didn't think that would be the first trade done!!!
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: shaker on October 11, 2016, 05:35:37 PM
Quote from: Torpedo10 on October 11, 2016, 04:55:34 PM
Quote from: jvalles69 on October 11, 2016, 04:47:42 PM
Quote from: shaker on October 11, 2016, 04:00:34 PM
Tigers single out Caddy in Lids deal

Hope they want more than that, or Richmond are even dumber than I thought!
Really?

Caddy is quality, a fair straight swap IMO.

Yep I rate Caddy as well and only 24 doubt the Cats will go for it even with Lids being a high quality player
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: shaker on October 11, 2016, 05:38:12 PM
Quote from: Jukes on October 11, 2016, 05:31:59 PM
Geez Bucks is incompetent - 600k a year for an old, injury-prone bloke (who's not even that amazing anyway) and they're not even near their premiership window

Don't know if Bucks has that much say in it , it really reeks of them trying to save his coaching butt
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: jvalles69 on October 11, 2016, 05:38:58 PM
Quote from: elephants on October 11, 2016, 05:12:19 PM
Quote from: Torpedo10 on October 11, 2016, 04:55:34 PM
Quote from: jvalles69 on October 11, 2016, 04:47:42 PM
Quote from: shaker on October 11, 2016, 04:00:34 PM
Tigers single out Caddy in Lids deal

Hope they want more than that, or Richmond are even dumber than I thought!
Really?

Caddy is quality, a fair straight swap IMO.

I also rate Caddy, and given the injuries that Lids has had of late...

Would screw Geelong though, not only giving away their future picks, also giving away what quality youth they have!!

Don't get me wrong, he's a solid midfielder, but no guts when the going gets tough, lets the big boys do all the work at that stage.  Deledio is a game breaker when healthy, Caddy will just rack up the touches in games against lesser sides, won't bring anything to the table in terms of leadership or game winning ability.  Sounds harsh, but feel its true.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: elephants on October 11, 2016, 05:43:33 PM
Quote from: jvalles69 on October 11, 2016, 05:38:58 PM
Quote from: elephants on October 11, 2016, 05:12:19 PM
Quote from: Torpedo10 on October 11, 2016, 04:55:34 PM
Quote from: jvalles69 on October 11, 2016, 04:47:42 PM
Quote from: shaker on October 11, 2016, 04:00:34 PM
Tigers single out Caddy in Lids deal

Hope they want more than that, or Richmond are even dumber than I thought!
Really?

Caddy is quality, a fair straight swap IMO.

I also rate Caddy, and given the injuries that Lids has had of late...

Would screw Geelong though, not only giving away their future picks, also giving away what quality youth they have!!

Don't get me wrong, he's a solid midfielder, but no guts when the going gets tough, lets the big boys do all the work at that stage.  Deledio is a game breaker when healthy, Caddy will just rack up the touches in games against lesser sides, won't bring anything to the table in terms of leadership or game winning ability.  Sounds harsh, but feel its true.

Meh, I dont know how much you can read into that. He's only 24, has shown he can push forward and kick goals, former high draft pick. When you're playing under guys like Selwood/Danger sometimes that opportunity to take a game on is not as prevalent.

Could thrive if given the opportunity to lead a midfield group imo!
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: jvalles69 on October 11, 2016, 06:17:07 PM
Quote from: elephants on October 11, 2016, 05:43:33 PM
Quote from: jvalles69 on October 11, 2016, 05:38:58 PM
Quote from: elephants on October 11, 2016, 05:12:19 PM
Quote from: Torpedo10 on October 11, 2016, 04:55:34 PM
Quote from: jvalles69 on October 11, 2016, 04:47:42 PM
Quote from: shaker on October 11, 2016, 04:00:34 PM
Tigers single out Caddy in Lids deal

Hope they want more than that, or Richmond are even dumber than I thought!
Really?

Caddy is quality, a fair straight swap IMO.

I also rate Caddy, and given the injuries that Lids has had of late...

Would screw Geelong though, not only giving away their future picks, also giving away what quality youth they have!!

Don't get me wrong, he's a solid midfielder, but no guts when the going gets tough, lets the big boys do all the work at that stage.  Deledio is a game breaker when healthy, Caddy will just rack up the touches in games against lesser sides, won't bring anything to the table in terms of leadership or game winning ability.  Sounds harsh, but feel its true.

Meh, I dont know how much you can read into that. He's only 24, has shown he can push forward and kick goals, former high draft pick. When you're playing under guys like Selwood/Danger sometimes that opportunity to take a game on is not as prevalent.

Could thrive if given the opportunity to lead a midfield group imo!

We'll see then. ;)
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: JBs-Hawks on October 11, 2016, 06:22:03 PM
Really stepped up in the prelim!
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: elephants on October 11, 2016, 06:26:14 PM
Quote from: JBs-Hawks on October 11, 2016, 06:22:03 PM
Really stepped up in the prelim!

Yeah he was the only player to let them down on the night wasn't he!

Illustrates my point really, could be a player that thrives when more pressure is on him to perform. Not much ball to go around when Danger and Jelwood combine for 80 possies when the team is spanked.

Further to this, "started deep forward".... He's a midfielder, jesus.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: shaker on October 11, 2016, 06:37:42 PM
Quote from: elephants on October 11, 2016, 06:26:14 PM
Quote from: JBs-Hawks on October 11, 2016, 06:22:03 PM
Really stepped up in the prelim!

Yeah he was the only player to let them down on the night wasn't he!

Illustrates my point really, could be a player that thrives when more pressure is on him to perform. Not much ball to go around when Danger and Jelwood combine for 80 possies when the team is spanked.

Further to this, "started deep forward".... He's a midfielder, jesus.

Agree totally If Lids is chasing a chance at a premiership would not be upset if we landed Caddy in the deal I'm just glad we said no to Motlop
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: WhatMate on October 11, 2016, 06:40:25 PM
13 + Lyons
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: lachie_001 on October 11, 2016, 07:02:21 PM
http://www.theage.com.au/afl/afl-news/afl-trades-2016-blues-target-charlie-cameron-for-bryce-gibbs-trade-20161011-grzunv.html

So sounds like Carlton want pick 13 and quality player like McGovern or Cameron. I think SOS is still high from that mega trade last year. Honestly, please just keep Gibbs. He's. Not. Worth. More. Than. Patrick. Dangerfield.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: PowerBug on October 11, 2016, 07:07:10 PM
Quote from: lachie_001 on October 11, 2016, 07:02:21 PM
http://www.theage.com.au/afl/afl-news/afl-trades-2016-blues-target-charlie-cameron-for-bryce-gibbs-trade-20161011-grzunv.html

So sounds like Carlton want pick 13 and quality player like McGovern or Cameron. I think SOS is still high from that mega trade last year. Honestly, please just keep Gibbs. He's. Not. Worth. More. Than. Patrick. Dangerfield.
When you consider Dangerfield was uncontracted and Gibbs has 3 years left I'd argue differently.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: TomK on October 11, 2016, 07:15:29 PM
Quote from: PowerBug on October 11, 2016, 07:07:10 PM
Quote from: lachie_001 on October 11, 2016, 07:02:21 PM
http://www.theage.com.au/afl/afl-news/afl-trades-2016-blues-target-charlie-cameron-for-bryce-gibbs-trade-20161011-grzunv.html

So sounds like Carlton want pick 13 and quality player like McGovern or Cameron. I think SOS is still high from that mega trade last year. Honestly, please just keep Gibbs. He's. Not. Worth. More. Than. Patrick. Dangerfield.
When you consider Dangerfield was uncontracted and Gibbs has 3 years left I'd argue differently.
Yeah, the contract is the issue here, something Port supporters would know all about ;D :P

Another thing, last year with all the Danger stuff, the Victorian media was like 'Oh poor Paddy, Adelaide should just let him go, he gave them 8 years of good service, just let him go for free, blah blah blah' and now Gibbs wanting to move home for the exact same reason, everyone is like 'Oh Carlton can not accept anything less than two first rounders, they have to play hard ball, if they can't get a deal done, make him stay'. It's just a flowering joke. I understand Paddy wasn't contracted and Gibbs is but it's funny how their tones change when it's one of their own.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: meow meow on October 11, 2016, 07:29:39 PM
Would expect Freo to pass 34 onto the Cats for Kersten. Getting 2 key forwards while moving from 3rd to 7th isn't a bad outcome.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: PowerBug on October 11, 2016, 07:36:36 PM
Quote from: TomK on October 11, 2016, 07:15:29 PM
Quote from: PowerBug on October 11, 2016, 07:07:10 PM
Quote from: lachie_001 on October 11, 2016, 07:02:21 PM
http://www.theage.com.au/afl/afl-news/afl-trades-2016-blues-target-charlie-cameron-for-bryce-gibbs-trade-20161011-grzunv.html

So sounds like Carlton want pick 13 and quality player like McGovern or Cameron. I think SOS is still high from that mega trade last year. Honestly, please just keep Gibbs. He's. Not. Worth. More. Than. Patrick. Dangerfield.
When you consider Dangerfield was uncontracted and Gibbs has 3 years left I'd argue differently.
Yeah, the contract is the issue here, something Port supporters would know all about ;D :P

Another thing, last year with all the Danger stuff, the Victorian media was like 'Oh poor Paddy, Adelaide should just let him go, he gave them 8 years of good service, just let him go for free, blah blah blah' and now Gibbs wanting to move home for the exact same reason, everyone is like 'Oh Carlton can not accept anything less than two first rounders, they have to play hard ball, if they can't get a deal done, make him stay'. It's just a flowering joke. I understand Paddy wasn't contracted and Gibbs is but it's funny how their tones change when it's one of their own.
Could say similar about how Crows supporters are acting ;)

The Crows giving up youth would be silly these are some really good players who are good enough to take the next step to get them all the way. They weren't far off a premiership this year it was such a tight season!! They need to get Gibbs without giving away their current players to make it worthwhile Imo.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: TomK on October 11, 2016, 07:40:47 PM
Quote from: PowerBug on October 11, 2016, 07:36:36 PM
Quote from: TomK on October 11, 2016, 07:15:29 PM
Quote from: PowerBug on October 11, 2016, 07:07:10 PM
Quote from: lachie_001 on October 11, 2016, 07:02:21 PM
http://www.theage.com.au/afl/afl-news/afl-trades-2016-blues-target-charlie-cameron-for-bryce-gibbs-trade-20161011-grzunv.html

So sounds like Carlton want pick 13 and quality player like McGovern or Cameron. I think SOS is still high from that mega trade last year. Honestly, please just keep Gibbs. He's. Not. Worth. More. Than. Patrick. Dangerfield.
When you consider Dangerfield was uncontracted and Gibbs has 3 years left I'd argue differently.
Yeah, the contract is the issue here, something Port supporters would know all about ;D :P

Another thing, last year with all the Danger stuff, the Victorian media was like 'Oh poor Paddy, Adelaide should just let him go, he gave them 8 years of good service, just let him go for free, blah blah blah' and now Gibbs wanting to move home for the exact same reason, everyone is like 'Oh Carlton can not accept anything less than two first rounders, they have to play hard ball, if they can't get a deal done, make him stay'. It's just a flowering joke. I understand Paddy wasn't contracted and Gibbs is but it's funny how their tones change when it's one of their own.
Could say similar about how Crows supporters are acting ;)

The Crows giving up youth would be silly these are some really good players who are good enough to take the next step to get them all the way. They weren't far off a premiership this year it was such a tight season!! They need to get Gibbs without giving away their current players to make it worthwhile Imo.
Hahah true, only some though and they annoy me :P

Agree with everything said there!
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: fanTCfool on October 11, 2016, 07:54:01 PM
Gibbs has a contract, so we don't have to trade him.
Dangerfield didn't have a contract, so he was gone as soon as he wanted to be.

Gibbs is such an important player to our side, we're not a top side like Adelaide.
Losing a leader will leave a massive hole, so if we can't get what we need then why trade him? Obviously he'll have a very poor few years playing for a team he no longer wants to be with, Cam McCarthy style, but if we throw him away for chips, we won't bounce back like Adelaide did losing Dangerfield, we're not a strong enough side.

The reason Adelaide don't want to pay up for Gibbs is simply because he won't be as important to their side as he is to our side.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Jukes on October 11, 2016, 07:57:39 PM
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Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: TomK on October 11, 2016, 08:06:44 PM
Quote from: fanTCfool on October 11, 2016, 07:54:01 PM
Gibbs has a contract, so we don't have to trade him.
Dangerfield didn't have a contract, so he was gone as soon as he wanted to be.

Gibbs is such an important player to our side, we're not a top side like Adelaide.
Losing a leader will leave a massive hole, so if we can't get what we need then why trade him? Obviously he'll have a very poor few years playing for a team he no longer wants to be with, Cam McCarthy style, but if we throw him away for chips, we won't bounce back like Adelaide did losing Dangerfield, we're not a strong enough side.

The reason Adelaide don't want to pay up for Gibbs is simply because he won't be as important to their side as he is to our side.
Of course, but we didn't have to trade Danger, we could have sent him to the PSD which would've been stupid but still. If you don't trade him, then like you said he will be there when not wanting to be and you'll be wasting 600K a year which could be used to improve your future by luring someone else to the club.

I'd argue he is more important to us, we are going for a flag, Bryce won't be at Carlton the next time they challenge. I understand you lose your Vice Captain and his leadership but if he wants to go, I don't like clubs forcing players to stay, especially when this revolves around their kid, it's not like we're offering a 3rd rounder and Andy Otten. The deal will get done, I'm confident of that, how much more than our first rounder though is the question.

Like I responded to a post on the Crows board, I would have a think about Pick 13 + 2017 1st for Gibbs + Pick 24, which I think is more than fair, leaning in your favour.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Purple 77 on October 11, 2016, 08:13:33 PM
Lol Jukes!
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: fanTCfool on October 11, 2016, 08:41:15 PM
Quote from: TomK on October 11, 2016, 08:06:44 PM
Quote from: fanTCfool on October 11, 2016, 07:54:01 PM
Gibbs has a contract, so we don't have to trade him.
Dangerfield didn't have a contract, so he was gone as soon as he wanted to be.

Gibbs is such an important player to our side, we're not a top side like Adelaide.
Losing a leader will leave a massive hole, so if we can't get what we need then why trade him? Obviously he'll have a very poor few years playing for a team he no longer wants to be with, Cam McCarthy style, but if we throw him away for chips, we won't bounce back like Adelaide did losing Dangerfield, we're not a strong enough side.

The reason Adelaide don't want to pay up for Gibbs is simply because he won't be as important to their side as he is to our side.
Of course, but we didn't have to trade Danger, we could have sent him to the PSD which would've been stupid but still. If you don't trade him, then like you said he will be there when not wanting to be and you'll be wasting 600K a year which could be used to improve your future by luring someone else to the club.

I'd argue he is more important to us, we are going for a flag, Bryce won't be at Carlton the next time they challenge. I understand you lose your Vice Captain and his leadership but if he wants to go, I don't like clubs forcing players to stay, especially when this revolves around their kid, it's not like we're offering a 3rd rounder and Andy Otten. The deal will get done, I'm confident of that, how much more than our first rounder though is the question.

Like I responded to a post on the Crows board, I would have a think about Pick 13 + 2017 1st for Gibbs + Pick 24, which I think is more than fair, leaning in your favour.

I agree with pretty much all that you said, a trade will be made, and forcing a player to stay will only do bad things for their career (see McCarthy in about 6 months time) so it's best for everyone to get it done.

The problem with 13 + 2017 1st + 24 is the hole it leads in the leadership department, someone needs to step up into the role and I'm not sure who it could be, and it is too much to expect from a first year player.

What I should have said instead of "more important to us" is that he will be far less of a 'standout talent' at the Crows.

On a somewhat unrelated note, it is funny how many stars exist when they get traded, "Carlton Star Zach Tuohy" requests trade made me laugh a little, when I wasn't super upset with the double departure.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: enzedder on October 11, 2016, 08:46:25 PM
Saints close on getting Koby Stevens.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: kilbluff1985 on October 11, 2016, 08:47:15 PM
the media calls any best 22 player a 'star'
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: PowerBug on October 11, 2016, 08:54:31 PM
"Carlton will only consider trading Bryce Gibbs to Adelaide if it can secure a quality midfielder in trade period bit.ly/2e2BOIX"
- SuperFooty on Twitter

I guess this goes back to what you are satin Ftc about getting some kind of ready made replacement.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: TomK on October 11, 2016, 08:59:30 PM
Quote from: fanTCfool on October 11, 2016, 08:41:15 PM
Quote from: TomK on October 11, 2016, 08:06:44 PM
Quote from: fanTCfool on October 11, 2016, 07:54:01 PM
Gibbs has a contract, so we don't have to trade him.
Dangerfield didn't have a contract, so he was gone as soon as he wanted to be.

Gibbs is such an important player to our side, we're not a top side like Adelaide.
Losing a leader will leave a massive hole, so if we can't get what we need then why trade him? Obviously he'll have a very poor few years playing for a team he no longer wants to be with, Cam McCarthy style, but if we throw him away for chips, we won't bounce back like Adelaide did losing Dangerfield, we're not a strong enough side.

The reason Adelaide don't want to pay up for Gibbs is simply because he won't be as important to their side as he is to our side.
Of course, but we didn't have to trade Danger, we could have sent him to the PSD which would've been stupid but still. If you don't trade him, then like you said he will be there when not wanting to be and you'll be wasting 600K a year which could be used to improve your future by luring someone else to the club.

I'd argue he is more important to us, we are going for a flag, Bryce won't be at Carlton the next time they challenge. I understand you lose your Vice Captain and his leadership but if he wants to go, I don't like clubs forcing players to stay, especially when this revolves around their kid, it's not like we're offering a 3rd rounder and Andy Otten. The deal will get done, I'm confident of that, how much more than our first rounder though is the question.

Like I responded to a post on the Crows board, I would have a think about Pick 13 + 2017 1st for Gibbs + Pick 24, which I think is more than fair, leaning in your favour.

I agree with pretty much all that you said, a trade will be made, and forcing a player to stay will only do bad things for their career (see McCarthy in about 6 months time) so it's best for everyone to get it done.

The problem with 13 + 2017 1st + 24 is the hole it leads in the leadership department, someone needs to step up into the role and I'm not sure who it could be, and it is too much to expect from a first year player.

What I should have said instead of "more important to us" is that he will be far less of a 'standout talent' at the Crows.
Yeah fair enough, I understand that, I'm just not sure on what else I would think the club would realistically offer. Tuohy asking to leave as well doesn't help the leadership problems, the GWS boys are all young so probably won't help. I actually like Carlton as well so I hope the deal is a good one for you guys and us of course as well.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: jvalles69 on October 11, 2016, 09:06:50 PM
So contracts seem to be worth flower all these days is basically what free agency is.

Needs to be some sort of accountability for signing a contract.  The only people who should be able to control what happens to a contracted player is the parties who own the contract.  Have no problem with Carlton playing hardball, if Crows don't want to give up what they need to then back off, Gibbs suck it up and play out that piece of paper that you signed with you own hand, do you "JOB".
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: kilbluff1985 on October 11, 2016, 09:11:20 PM
http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/essendon-could-bid-no1-draft-pick-on-northern-academy-stars-in-surprise-draft-move/news-story/17fde26853c70bef104d23ee8a2e4acf
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: JBs-Hawks on October 11, 2016, 09:19:49 PM
The way I see it, Gibbs hasnt demanded a trade hes just requested one. So he wont be bitter if a trade cant eventuate but his preference would be for one to come about?
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Jay on October 11, 2016, 09:29:08 PM
Quote from: jvalles69 on October 11, 2016, 09:06:50 PM
So contracts seem to be worth flower all these days is basically what free agency is.

Needs to be some sort of accountability for signing a contract.  The only people who should be able to control what happens to a contracted player is the parties who own the contract.  Have no problem with Carlton playing hardball, if Crows don't want to give up what they need to then back off, Gibbs suck it up and play out that piece of paper that you signed with you own hand, do you "JOB".
He's got the contract and they can hold him to it. I don't think anyone would have a problem with that, I'm not saying that they have to trade him and we have any sort of leverage at all. But if we can offer up a package that is better for their future than hanging onto Gibbs, they wouldn't be doing their job if they didn't consider it.

But if they want Brad Crouch then they can get stuffed, we'll take pick 13 and add to our young core :)
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Ricochet on October 11, 2016, 09:31:59 PM
Quote from: Jay on October 11, 2016, 09:29:08 PM
Quote from: jvalles69 on October 11, 2016, 09:06:50 PM
So contracts seem to be worth flower all these days is basically what free agency is.

Needs to be some sort of accountability for signing a contract.  The only people who should be able to control what happens to a contracted player is the parties who own the contract.  Have no problem with Carlton playing hardball, if Crows don't want to give up what they need to then back off, Gibbs suck it up and play out that piece of paper that you signed with you own hand, do you "JOB".
He's got the contract and they can hold him to it. I don't think anyone would have a problem with that, I'm not saying that they have to trade him and we have any sort of leverage at all. But if we can offer up a package that is better for their future than hanging onto Gibbs, they wouldn't be doing their job if they didn't consider it.
And it's no guarantee future offers will be better

Just ask GWS...
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Grazz on October 11, 2016, 09:40:59 PM
Quote from: PowerBug on October 11, 2016, 07:07:10 PM
Quote from: lachie_001 on October 11, 2016, 07:02:21 PM
http://www.theage.com.au/afl/afl-news/afl-trades-2016-blues-target-charlie-cameron-for-bryce-gibbs-trade-20161011-grzunv.html

So sounds like Carlton want pick 13 and quality player like McGovern or Cameron. I think SOS is still high from that mega trade last year. Honestly, please just keep Gibbs. He's. Not. Worth. More. Than. Patrick. Dangerfield.
When you consider Dangerfield was uncontracted and Gibbs has 3 years left I'd argue differently.

and you'd still be wrong mate, to compare Gibbs to Danger because of a contract with respect is pretty funny.
Gibbs will help us move closer to a premiership window but he's not the key. We need him and another of his quality or better to be close. AFC would be silly to throw more at the Blues than Pick 13 and Lyons (Overs already) because then we need to replace those guys. People are severely overating Gibbs because of a contract that lets be honest when was the last time contracts meant jack shower these days, not for years. Good player don't get me wrong but people need to be realistic, great player in the Carlton team but a good player in the AFC .
SOS is bloody high if he thinks we'd give up Crouch or Charlie or McGovern also to sweeten the deal. Gibbs want's to leave we're not poaching him, yes we have to pay overs because of the contract and we have offered overs they can take it or leave it. We have the talent on our list but it needs time to develope, if Gibbs was the key that would deliver a flag i'd feel different but he isn't. The contract is valuable to the Blues because he is a required player but it holds no value to the AFC.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Ricochet on October 11, 2016, 09:43:00 PM
I actually think Gibbs still be better at Crows Grazz. He could be huge for you
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: fanTCfool on October 11, 2016, 09:48:39 PM
Quote from: PowerBug on October 11, 2016, 08:54:31 PM
"Carlton will only consider trading Bryce Gibbs to Adelaide if it can secure a quality midfielder in trade period bit.ly/2e2BOIX"
- SuperFooty on Twitter

I guess this goes back to what you are satin Ftc about getting some kind of ready made replacement.

Agreed.

Seriously though, I think there was a lot to like in 2016, a very solid patch mid season - wins over Geelong and Port Adelaide were really impressive. I have nothing against youth, and I'm sure all three proposed picks will produce guns, but I feel as though it will halt the growth from this season just gone. If we can maintain some sort of similar level of leadership through our trade-ins, it will build on the ground work laid out so far. Then once guys like Cunningham, C. Curnow, Weiters are approaching their full potential in a few years time, you return to the draft and bring the youth into a team pushing for a Top 8 birth. The balance between experience/leadership with youth and development is really important, and if we end up too youth dominant, the development of the guys mentioned above could be threatened.

Quote from: TomK on October 11, 2016, 08:59:30 PM
Quote from: fanTCfool on October 11, 2016, 08:41:15 PM
Quote from: TomK on October 11, 2016, 08:06:44 PM
Quote from: fanTCfool on October 11, 2016, 07:54:01 PM
Gibbs has a contract, so we don't have to trade him.
Dangerfield didn't have a contract, so he was gone as soon as he wanted to be.

Gibbs is such an important player to our side, we're not a top side like Adelaide.
Losing a leader will leave a massive hole, so if we can't get what we need then why trade him? Obviously he'll have a very poor few years playing for a team he no longer wants to be with, Cam McCarthy style, but if we throw him away for chips, we won't bounce back like Adelaide did losing Dangerfield, we're not a strong enough side.

The reason Adelaide don't want to pay up for Gibbs is simply because he won't be as important to their side as he is to our side.
Of course, but we didn't have to trade Danger, we could have sent him to the PSD which would've been stupid but still. If you don't trade him, then like you said he will be there when not wanting to be and you'll be wasting 600K a year which could be used to improve your future by luring someone else to the club.

I'd argue he is more important to us, we are going for a flag, Bryce won't be at Carlton the next time they challenge. I understand you lose your Vice Captain and his leadership but if he wants to go, I don't like clubs forcing players to stay, especially when this revolves around their kid, it's not like we're offering a 3rd rounder and Andy Otten. The deal will get done, I'm confident of that, how much more than our first rounder though is the question.

Like I responded to a post on the Crows board, I would have a think about Pick 13 + 2017 1st for Gibbs + Pick 24, which I think is more than fair, leaning in your favour.

I agree with pretty much all that you said, a trade will be made, and forcing a player to stay will only do bad things for their career (see McCarthy in about 6 months time) so it's best for everyone to get it done.

The problem with 13 + 2017 1st + 24 is the hole it leads in the leadership department, someone needs to step up into the role and I'm not sure who it could be, and it is too much to expect from a first year player.

What I should have said instead of "more important to us" is that he will be far less of a 'standout talent' at the Crows.
Yeah fair enough, I understand that, I'm just not sure on what else I would think the club would realistically offer. Tuohy asking to leave as well doesn't help the leadership problems, the GWS boys are all young so probably won't help. I actually like Carlton as well so I hope the deal is a good one for you guys and us of course as well.

Jacobs taps to Gibbs, who smashes out a 71m Torp down to Eddieeeeeeee, who flies high and clunks it. Goal.

Quote from: Jay on October 11, 2016, 09:29:08 PM
Quote from: jvalles69 on October 11, 2016, 09:06:50 PM
So contracts seem to be worth flower all these days is basically what free agency is.

Needs to be some sort of accountability for signing a contract.  The only people who should be able to control what happens to a contracted player is the parties who own the contract.  Have no problem with Carlton playing hardball, if Crows don't want to give up what they need to then back off, Gibbs suck it up and play out that piece of paper that you signed with you own hand, do you "JOB".
He's got the contract and they can hold him to it. I don't think anyone would have a problem with that, I'm not saying that they have to trade him and we have any sort of leverage at all. But if we can offer up a package that is better for their future than hanging onto Gibbs, they wouldn't be doing their job if they didn't consider it.

But if they want Brad Crouch then they can get stuffed, we'll take pick 13 and add to our young core :)

Can you blame us for inquiring about Crouch though? And please don't see he's contracted  ::)
I wouldn't blame the Crows for inquiring about guys such as Weiters and Cripps if the circumstances were different.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: TomK on October 11, 2016, 09:55:20 PM
Quote from: fanTCfool on October 11, 2016, 09:48:39 PM
Quote from: TomK on October 11, 2016, 08:59:30 PM
Quote from: fanTCfool on October 11, 2016, 08:41:15 PM
Quote from: TomK on October 11, 2016, 08:06:44 PM
Quote from: fanTCfool on October 11, 2016, 07:54:01 PM
Gibbs has a contract, so we don't have to trade him.
Dangerfield didn't have a contract, so he was gone as soon as he wanted to be.

Gibbs is such an important player to our side, we're not a top side like Adelaide.
Losing a leader will leave a massive hole, so if we can't get what we need then why trade him? Obviously he'll have a very poor few years playing for a team he no longer wants to be with, Cam McCarthy style, but if we throw him away for chips, we won't bounce back like Adelaide did losing Dangerfield, we're not a strong enough side.

The reason Adelaide don't want to pay up for Gibbs is simply because he won't be as important to their side as he is to our side.
Of course, but we didn't have to trade Danger, we could have sent him to the PSD which would've been stupid but still. If you don't trade him, then like you said he will be there when not wanting to be and you'll be wasting 600K a year which could be used to improve your future by luring someone else to the club.

I'd argue he is more important to us, we are going for a flag, Bryce won't be at Carlton the next time they challenge. I understand you lose your Vice Captain and his leadership but if he wants to go, I don't like clubs forcing players to stay, especially when this revolves around their kid, it's not like we're offering a 3rd rounder and Andy Otten. The deal will get done, I'm confident of that, how much more than our first rounder though is the question.

Like I responded to a post on the Crows board, I would have a think about Pick 13 + 2017 1st for Gibbs + Pick 24, which I think is more than fair, leaning in your favour.

I agree with pretty much all that you said, a trade will be made, and forcing a player to stay will only do bad things for their career (see McCarthy in about 6 months time) so it's best for everyone to get it done.

The problem with 13 + 2017 1st + 24 is the hole it leads in the leadership department, someone needs to step up into the role and I'm not sure who it could be, and it is too much to expect from a first year player.

What I should have said instead of "more important to us" is that he will be far less of a 'standout talent' at the Crows.
Yeah fair enough, I understand that, I'm just not sure on what else I would think the club would realistically offer. Tuohy asking to leave as well doesn't help the leadership problems, the GWS boys are all young so probably won't help. I actually like Carlton as well so I hope the deal is a good one for you guys and us of course as well.

Jacobs taps to Gibbs, who smashes out a 71m Torp down to Eddieeeeeeee, who flies high and clunks it. Goal.
Hey, come on now, don't forget Menzel ;)
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: kilbluff1985 on October 11, 2016, 09:57:47 PM
Quote from: fanTCfool on October 11, 2016, 09:48:39 PM
Quote from: PowerBug on October 11, 2016, 08:54:31 PM
"Carlton will only consider trading Bryce Gibbs to Adelaide if it can secure a quality midfielder in trade period bit.ly/2e2BOIX"
- SuperFooty on Twitter

I guess this goes back to what you are satin Ftc about getting some kind of ready made replacement.

Agreed.

Seriously though, I think there was a lot to like in 2016, a very solid patch mid season - wins over Geelong and Port Adelaide were really impressive. I have nothing against youth, and I'm sure all three proposed picks will produce guns, but I feel as though it will halt the growth from this season just gone. If we can maintain some sort of similar level of leadership through our trade-ins, it will build on the ground work laid out so far. Then once guys like Cunningham, C. Curnow, Weiters are approaching their full potential in a few years time, you return to the draft and bring the youth into a team pushing for a Top 8 birth. The balance between experience/leadership with youth and development is really important, and if we end up too youth dominant, the development of the guys mentioned above could be threatened.

Quote from: TomK on October 11, 2016, 08:59:30 PM
Quote from: fanTCfool on October 11, 2016, 08:41:15 PM
Quote from: TomK on October 11, 2016, 08:06:44 PM
Quote from: fanTCfool on October 11, 2016, 07:54:01 PM
Gibbs has a contract, so we don't have to trade him.
Dangerfield didn't have a contract, so he was gone as soon as he wanted to be.

Gibbs is such an important player to our side, we're not a top side like Adelaide.
Losing a leader will leave a massive hole, so if we can't get what we need then why trade him? Obviously he'll have a very poor few years playing for a team he no longer wants to be with, Cam McCarthy style, but if we throw him away for chips, we won't bounce back like Adelaide did losing Dangerfield, we're not a strong enough side.

The reason Adelaide don't want to pay up for Gibbs is simply because he won't be as important to their side as he is to our side.
Of course, but we didn't have to trade Danger, we could have sent him to the PSD which would've been stupid but still. If you don't trade him, then like you said he will be there when not wanting to be and you'll be wasting 600K a year which could be used to improve your future by luring someone else to the club.

I'd argue he is more important to us, we are going for a flag, Bryce won't be at Carlton the next time they challenge. I understand you lose your Vice Captain and his leadership but if he wants to go, I don't like clubs forcing players to stay, especially when this revolves around their kid, it's not like we're offering a 3rd rounder and Andy Otten. The deal will get done, I'm confident of that, how much more than our first rounder though is the question.

Like I responded to a post on the Crows board, I would have a think about Pick 13 + 2017 1st for Gibbs + Pick 24, which I think is more than fair, leaning in your favour.

I agree with pretty much all that you said, a trade will be made, and forcing a player to stay will only do bad things for their career (see McCarthy in about 6 months time) so it's best for everyone to get it done.

The problem with 13 + 2017 1st + 24 is the hole it leads in the leadership department, someone needs to step up into the role and I'm not sure who it could be, and it is too much to expect from a first year player.

What I should have said instead of "more important to us" is that he will be far less of a 'standout talent' at the Crows.
Yeah fair enough, I understand that, I'm just not sure on what else I would think the club would realistically offer. Tuohy asking to leave as well doesn't help the leadership problems, the GWS boys are all young so probably won't help. I actually like Carlton as well so I hope the deal is a good one for you guys and us of course as well.

Jacobs taps to Gibbs, who smashes out a 71m Torp down to Eddieeeeeeee, who flies high and clunks it. Goal.

Quote from: Jay on October 11, 2016, 09:29:08 PM
Quote from: jvalles69 on October 11, 2016, 09:06:50 PM
So contracts seem to be worth flower all these days is basically what free agency is.

Needs to be some sort of accountability for signing a contract.  The only people who should be able to control what happens to a contracted player is the parties who own the contract.  Have no problem with Carlton playing hardball, if Crows don't want to give up what they need to then back off, Gibbs suck it up and play out that piece of paper that you signed with you own hand, do you "JOB".
He's got the contract and they can hold him to it. I don't think anyone would have a problem with that, I'm not saying that they have to trade him and we have any sort of leverage at all. But if we can offer up a package that is better for their future than hanging onto Gibbs, they wouldn't be doing their job if they didn't consider it.

But if they want Brad Crouch then they can get stuffed, we'll take pick 13 and add to our young core :)

Can you blame us for inquiring about Crouch though? And please don't see he's contracted  ::)
I wouldn't blame the Crows for inquiring about guys such as Weiters and Cripps if the circumstances were different.

he's contracted
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: fanTCfool on October 11, 2016, 10:18:55 PM
Quote from: TomK on October 11, 2016, 09:55:20 PM
Quote from: fanTCfool on October 11, 2016, 09:48:39 PM
Quote from: TomK on October 11, 2016, 08:59:30 PM
Quote from: fanTCfool on October 11, 2016, 08:41:15 PM
Quote from: TomK on October 11, 2016, 08:06:44 PM
Quote from: fanTCfool on October 11, 2016, 07:54:01 PM
Gibbs has a contract, so we don't have to trade him.
Dangerfield didn't have a contract, so he was gone as soon as he wanted to be.

Gibbs is such an important player to our side, we're not a top side like Adelaide.
Losing a leader will leave a massive hole, so if we can't get what we need then why trade him? Obviously he'll have a very poor few years playing for a team he no longer wants to be with, Cam McCarthy style, but if we throw him away for chips, we won't bounce back like Adelaide did losing Dangerfield, we're not a strong enough side.

The reason Adelaide don't want to pay up for Gibbs is simply because he won't be as important to their side as he is to our side.
Of course, but we didn't have to trade Danger, we could have sent him to the PSD which would've been stupid but still. If you don't trade him, then like you said he will be there when not wanting to be and you'll be wasting 600K a year which could be used to improve your future by luring someone else to the club.

I'd argue he is more important to us, we are going for a flag, Bryce won't be at Carlton the next time they challenge. I understand you lose your Vice Captain and his leadership but if he wants to go, I don't like clubs forcing players to stay, especially when this revolves around their kid, it's not like we're offering a 3rd rounder and Andy Otten. The deal will get done, I'm confident of that, how much more than our first rounder though is the question.

Like I responded to a post on the Crows board, I would have a think about Pick 13 + 2017 1st for Gibbs + Pick 24, which I think is more than fair, leaning in your favour.

I agree with pretty much all that you said, a trade will be made, and forcing a player to stay will only do bad things for their career (see McCarthy in about 6 months time) so it's best for everyone to get it done.

The problem with 13 + 2017 1st + 24 is the hole it leads in the leadership department, someone needs to step up into the role and I'm not sure who it could be, and it is too much to expect from a first year player.

What I should have said instead of "more important to us" is that he will be far less of a 'standout talent' at the Crows.
Yeah fair enough, I understand that, I'm just not sure on what else I would think the club would realistically offer. Tuohy asking to leave as well doesn't help the leadership problems, the GWS boys are all young so probably won't help. I actually like Carlton as well so I hope the deal is a good one for you guys and us of course as well.

Jacobs taps to Gibbs, who smashes out a 71m Torp down to Eddieeeeeeee, who flies high and clunks it. Goal.
Hey, come on now, don't forget Menzel ;)

AFL Goals in 2016
Jack Fitzpatrick 3
Troy Menzel 0

;D ;) :P
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: iZander on October 11, 2016, 10:21:06 PM
Quote from: fanTCfool on October 11, 2016, 10:18:55 PM
Quote from: TomK on October 11, 2016, 09:55:20 PM
Quote from: fanTCfool on October 11, 2016, 09:48:39 PM
Quote from: TomK on October 11, 2016, 08:59:30 PM
Quote from: fanTCfool on October 11, 2016, 08:41:15 PM
Quote from: TomK on October 11, 2016, 08:06:44 PM
Quote from: fanTCfool on October 11, 2016, 07:54:01 PM
Gibbs has a contract, so we don't have to trade him.
Dangerfield didn't have a contract, so he was gone as soon as he wanted to be.

Gibbs is such an important player to our side, we're not a top side like Adelaide.
Losing a leader will leave a massive hole, so if we can't get what we need then why trade him? Obviously he'll have a very poor few years playing for a team he no longer wants to be with, Cam McCarthy style, but if we throw him away for chips, we won't bounce back like Adelaide did losing Dangerfield, we're not a strong enough side.

The reason Adelaide don't want to pay up for Gibbs is simply because he won't be as important to their side as he is to our side.
Of course, but we didn't have to trade Danger, we could have sent him to the PSD which would've been stupid but still. If you don't trade him, then like you said he will be there when not wanting to be and you'll be wasting 600K a year which could be used to improve your future by luring someone else to the club.

I'd argue he is more important to us, we are going for a flag, Bryce won't be at Carlton the next time they challenge. I understand you lose your Vice Captain and his leadership but if he wants to go, I don't like clubs forcing players to stay, especially when this revolves around their kid, it's not like we're offering a 3rd rounder and Andy Otten. The deal will get done, I'm confident of that, how much more than our first rounder though is the question.

Like I responded to a post on the Crows board, I would have a think about Pick 13 + 2017 1st for Gibbs + Pick 24, which I think is more than fair, leaning in your favour.

I agree with pretty much all that you said, a trade will be made, and forcing a player to stay will only do bad things for their career (see McCarthy in about 6 months time) so it's best for everyone to get it done.

The problem with 13 + 2017 1st + 24 is the hole it leads in the leadership department, someone needs to step up into the role and I'm not sure who it could be, and it is too much to expect from a first year player.

What I should have said instead of "more important to us" is that he will be far less of a 'standout talent' at the Crows.
Yeah fair enough, I understand that, I'm just not sure on what else I would think the club would realistically offer. Tuohy asking to leave as well doesn't help the leadership problems, the GWS boys are all young so probably won't help. I actually like Carlton as well so I hope the deal is a good one for you guys and us of course as well.

Jacobs taps to Gibbs, who smashes out a 71m Torp down to Eddieeeeeeee, who flies high and clunks it. Goal.
Hey, come on now, don't forget Menzel ;)

AFL Goals in 2016
Jack Fitzpatrick 3
Troy Menzel 0

;D ;) :P
John Butcher - 5 :P
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Koop on October 11, 2016, 10:23:19 PM
Quote from: iZander on October 11, 2016, 10:21:06 PM
Quote from: fanTCfool on October 11, 2016, 10:18:55 PM
Quote from: TomK on October 11, 2016, 09:55:20 PM
Quote from: fanTCfool on October 11, 2016, 09:48:39 PM
Quote from: TomK on October 11, 2016, 08:59:30 PM
Quote from: fanTCfool on October 11, 2016, 08:41:15 PM
Quote from: TomK on October 11, 2016, 08:06:44 PM
Quote from: fanTCfool on October 11, 2016, 07:54:01 PM
Gibbs has a contract, so we don't have to trade him.
Dangerfield didn't have a contract, so he was gone as soon as he wanted to be.

Gibbs is such an important player to our side, we're not a top side like Adelaide.
Losing a leader will leave a massive hole, so if we can't get what we need then why trade him? Obviously he'll have a very poor few years playing for a team he no longer wants to be with, Cam McCarthy style, but if we throw him away for chips, we won't bounce back like Adelaide did losing Dangerfield, we're not a strong enough side.

The reason Adelaide don't want to pay up for Gibbs is simply because he won't be as important to their side as he is to our side.
Of course, but we didn't have to trade Danger, we could have sent him to the PSD which would've been stupid but still. If you don't trade him, then like you said he will be there when not wanting to be and you'll be wasting 600K a year which could be used to improve your future by luring someone else to the club.

I'd argue he is more important to us, we are going for a flag, Bryce won't be at Carlton the next time they challenge. I understand you lose your Vice Captain and his leadership but if he wants to go, I don't like clubs forcing players to stay, especially when this revolves around their kid, it's not like we're offering a 3rd rounder and Andy Otten. The deal will get done, I'm confident of that, how much more than our first rounder though is the question.

Like I responded to a post on the Crows board, I would have a think about Pick 13 + 2017 1st for Gibbs + Pick 24, which I think is more than fair, leaning in your favour.

I agree with pretty much all that you said, a trade will be made, and forcing a player to stay will only do bad things for their career (see McCarthy in about 6 months time) so it's best for everyone to get it done.

The problem with 13 + 2017 1st + 24 is the hole it leads in the leadership department, someone needs to step up into the role and I'm not sure who it could be, and it is too much to expect from a first year player.

What I should have said instead of "more important to us" is that he will be far less of a 'standout talent' at the Crows.
Yeah fair enough, I understand that, I'm just not sure on what else I would think the club would realistically offer. Tuohy asking to leave as well doesn't help the leadership problems, the GWS boys are all young so probably won't help. I actually like Carlton as well so I hope the deal is a good one for you guys and us of course as well.

Jacobs taps to Gibbs, who smashes out a 71m Torp down to Eddieeeeeeee, who flies high and clunks it. Goal.
Hey, come on now, don't forget Menzel ;)

AFL Goals in 2016
Jack Fitzpatrick 3
Troy Menzel 0

;D ;) :P
John Butcher - 5 :P
Kyle Reimers kicked 8 once  ;D
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: lachie_001 on October 11, 2016, 11:06:00 PM
If I'm Crows, I'm saying we are working with picks and thats it. You can take pick 13 to help get Marchbank and keep 5 and we will try and accomodate you with a second rounder next year. Otherwise forget about it and keep him, Gibbs isn't the answer to next Crows Premiership and when you can get players like Talia, Smith or Lever for pick 13 who the hell cares about getting Gibbs, srsly!

And to the next person who says we are our premiership window won't last long, I'll remind them that we had the most players of any team in the 22under22 squad. Those of which include, Laird, Atkins, Cameron, McGovern, Lever and Crouch's.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: RaisyDaisy on October 11, 2016, 11:15:19 PM
Hope Ade/Car sort it out asap so this convo can end  :-X
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: fanTCfool on October 11, 2016, 11:15:31 PM
Crows bias is clouding your judgement there, lachie, 13 and 2017 pick likely to be in the 30s isn't up to Gibbs.

Lets say 13 becomes Marchbank, and the following were taken between 30 and 36 in 2015
30 - Mason Redman
31 - Ryan Clarke
32 - Brayden Sier
33 - Mitchell Hibberd
34 - Josh Schoenfield
35 - Marcus Adams
36 - Tom Cole

Marchbank + one of those is not worth Gibbs.

You say that you don't need Gibbs, but I think you are wrong there too.
Round 23, no Sloane, Adelaide fell apart to be frank. It cost you the double chance.
Gibbs gives you that extra leader you need, and will no doubt assist when Scott Thompson retires next year, takes the pressure off guys like M and B Crouch to step into Scott Thompson's shoes straight away looking forward.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: kilbluff1985 on October 11, 2016, 11:16:49 PM
i'm curious so if Gibbs isn't the answer for the Crows who or what is?

to me it only seems like there midfield is lacking compared to the top 4 teams after Danger left and Gibbs will help with that along with development of the Crouch brothers and others

i'd have Crows making top 4 if they land Gibbs
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Ricochet on October 11, 2016, 11:18:10 PM
Quote from: fanTCfool on October 11, 2016, 11:15:31 PM
You say that you don't need Gibbs, but I think you are wrong there too.
Round 23, no Sloane, Adelaide fell apart to be frank. It cost you the double chance.
Gibbs gives you that extra leader you need, and will no doubt assist when Scott Thompson retires next year, takes the pressure off guys like M and B Crouch to step into Scott Thompson's shoes straight away looking forward.
100% agree
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: shaker on October 11, 2016, 11:25:28 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on October 11, 2016, 11:15:19 PM
Hope Ade/Car sort it out asap so this convo can end  :-X

Yes it is turning into a bit of a Gibbs fest
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: fanTCfool on October 11, 2016, 11:27:07 PM
Quote from: shaker on October 11, 2016, 11:25:28 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on October 11, 2016, 11:15:19 PM
Hope Ade/Car sort it out asap so this convo can end  :-X

Yes it is turning into a bit of a Gibbs fest

It's only a Gibbs fest because nothing else has happened  :P
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: elephants on October 11, 2016, 11:30:26 PM
Quote from: fanTCfool on October 11, 2016, 11:27:07 PM
Quote from: shaker on October 11, 2016, 11:25:28 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on October 11, 2016, 11:15:19 PM
Hope Ade/Car sort it out asap so this convo can end  :-X

Yes it is turning into a bit of a Gibbs fest

It's only a Gibbs fest because nothing else has happened  :P

Its only a Gibbs fest because Crows fans are lowballing hard :P
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Koop on October 11, 2016, 11:31:01 PM
Quote from: elephants on October 11, 2016, 11:30:26 PM
Quote from: fanTCfool on October 11, 2016, 11:27:07 PM
Quote from: shaker on October 11, 2016, 11:25:28 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on October 11, 2016, 11:15:19 PM
Hope Ade/Car sort it out asap so this convo can end  :-X

Yes it is turning into a bit of a Gibbs fest

It's only a Gibbs fest because nothing else has happened  :P

Its only a Gibbs fest because Crows fans are lowballing hard :P
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: RaisyDaisy on October 11, 2016, 11:38:38 PM
Let's assume Gibbs go to Crows

Rank their Top 5 players for me

Guaranteed he is on the list, and probs Top 3

No brainer - give whatever Carlton want
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Jay on October 11, 2016, 11:43:39 PM
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on October 11, 2016, 11:16:49 PM
i'm curious so if Gibbs isn't the answer for the Crows who or what is?

to me it only seems like there midfield is lacking compared to the top 4 teams after Danger left and Gibbs will help with that along with development of the Crouch brothers and others

i'd have Crows making top 4 if they land Gibbs
Gibbs is the answer, he's a great player and exactly what we need. Someone with a bit of class. But if Carlton want Brad Crouch then that's really just sideways and getting older.

I strongly disagree with the Crows fans who are saying they wouldn't do 13 + Lyons for Gibbs and think they're overrating our current midfield. The lack of star quality hurt us big time in crucial games this season.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: RaisyDaisy on October 11, 2016, 11:54:22 PM
Crows are a good looking outfit, but don't forget that since the bye they didn't beat a Top 8 side (I don't rate North as Top 8 ) so they clearly lack somewhere to compete with the top sides, and it's widely acknowledged that the midfield is where they need to improve. Won't get a better option than Gibbs for that
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: RiOtChEsS on October 12, 2016, 12:00:14 AM
Daniel Wells wrapped in bandages just got 600k for 3 years at 32 years old this coming season because he can really kick a ball

Bryce Gibbs 27, similar contract, kicking, class and durable, clubs are paying premium for this skill set NOW, its a need for Adelaide
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Grazz on October 12, 2016, 12:03:31 AM
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on October 11, 2016, 11:16:49 PM
i'm curious so if Gibbs isn't the answer for the Crows who or what is?

to me it only seems like there midfield is lacking compared to the top 4 teams after Danger left and Gibbs will help with that along with development of the Crouch brothers and others

i'd have Crows making top 4 if they land Gibbs

Him and another one like him tbh mate, that's how I see it.

Quote from: elephants on October 11, 2016, 11:30:26 PM
Quote from: fanTCfool on October 11, 2016, 11:27:07 PM
Quote from: shaker on October 11, 2016, 11:25:28 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on October 11, 2016, 11:15:19 PM
Hope Ade/Car sort it out asap so this convo can end  :-X

Yes it is turning into a bit of a Gibbs fest

It's only a Gibbs fest because nothing else has happened  :P

Its only a Gibbs fest because Crows fans are lowballing hard :P

Haha don't think we are with what is being suggested as offered. We don't know that for sure obviously.
I don't want to see either club robbed, he want's to leave we'll offer what we can afford to lose if it's not enough he stays in Vic.

Quote from: Jay on October 11, 2016, 11:43:39 PM
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on October 11, 2016, 11:16:49 PM
i'm curious so if Gibbs isn't the answer for the Crows who or what is?

to me it only seems like there midfield is lacking compared to the top 4 teams after Danger left and Gibbs will help with that along with development of the Crouch brothers and others

i'd have Crows making top 4 if they land Gibbs
Gibbs is the answer, he's a great player and exactly what we need. Someone with a bit of class. But if Carlton want Brad Crouch then that's really just sideways and getting older.

I strongly disagree with the Crows fans who are saying they wouldn't do 13 + Lyons for Gibbs and think they're overrating our current midfield. The lack of star quality hurt us big time in crucial games this season.

Gibbs is part of the puzzle that makes a flag mate but we still seriously need one more of his quality to be a dead set contender.
I'll happily give #13 and Lyons although i'd love to keep him or #13 and 2017's 1st rounder asking for more than that is to much. Rather develope what we have and keep the picks.

Quote from: RaisyDaisy on October 11, 2016, 11:38:38 PM
Let's assume Gibbs go to Crows

Rank their Top 5 players for me

Guaranteed he is on the list, and probs Top 3

No brainer - give whatever Carlton want

Hard to argue with that RD but to throw the kitchen sink at him to do it isn't worth it imo. He'll be 28 with 3 years of his best left.
If we can get a fair deal done do it if not develope what we have and be patient.
Tell me what you think we should give up to get Gibbs ?

I'm over the convo also lol so over it, opinions have been shared we all know how we feel not much left to be said on it really.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Gigantor on October 12, 2016, 12:33:02 AM
Quote
6pr are reporting the Eagles are in discussions with 5 time Peter Crimmins Medalist and Hawthorn Champion Sam Mitchell.

It's been reported that the deal could include finishing his career at the Eagles and moving into a coaching role after his career is finished.

flower off this can't be true, I just told some one they must mean Tom Mitchell when they told me this an hour ago

I would hate to see him out there in blue and gold haha
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Gigantor on October 12, 2016, 12:35:44 AM
http://m.6pr.com.au/news/hawks-premiership-hero-to-west-coast-20161011-gs03fd.html
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: TomK on October 12, 2016, 12:37:53 AM
Surely not?
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: RaisyDaisy on October 12, 2016, 12:37:55 AM
Quote from: Gigantor on October 12, 2016, 12:35:44 AM
http://m.6pr.com.au/news/hawks-premiership-hero-to-west-coast-20161011-gs03fd.html

Calling major BS here
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Ricochet on October 12, 2016, 12:46:03 AM
lol

"Kim Hagdorn believes..."

annnnd close page
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: elephants on October 12, 2016, 12:53:12 AM
Kim Hagdorn has an awful reputation for spreading bs.

This is absolutely no expection!
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Gigantor on October 12, 2016, 01:03:14 AM
Good to know, was getting a little bit worried for a minute there haha
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Jukes on October 12, 2016, 01:14:07 AM
Yeah Hagdorn is a horrible journo, extremely bias to say the least...
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Nige on October 12, 2016, 01:28:06 AM
The real issue here is that if Gibbs does end up at the Crows, he'll probably be the Adelaide rep for Fox's Longest Kick next year so he can defend his crown which means we don't get to see Tex at it again. :(
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: RiOtChEsS on October 12, 2016, 01:50:30 AM
Quote from: Nige on October 12, 2016, 01:28:06 AM
The real issue here is that if Gibbs does end up at the Crows, he'll probably be the Adelaide rep for Fox's Longest Kick next year so he can defend his crown which means we don't get to see Tex at it again. :(
no faith in em actually playin grand final day then mate :D
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: DazBurg on October 12, 2016, 08:48:29 AM
Riewoldt rejects Essendon approach

Essendon coach John Worsfold made private contact with Richmond forward Jack Riewoldt only for the Tiger to reinforce his commitment to stay at Tigerland, the Herald Sun reports.

The Dons had sensed the 27-year-old spearhead might be convinced to start afresh at Bomberland following trade talks between the clubs and private discussions between Riewoldt and friend, Essendon veteran Brendon Goddard.

However, a subsequent meeting between Riewoldt and Tigers coach Damien Hardwick convinced the dual Coleman medallist his future was at Punt Road.

http://www.afl.com.au/news/2016-10-12/trade-winds-tiger-riewoldt-wont-change-his-stripes

damn could of joined us Jack
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: _wato on October 12, 2016, 09:29:50 AM
S Mitchell open to a trade to the Eagles, as mentioned by himself on SEN this morning.

What the actual flower is going on this year hahahaha
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: JBs-Hawks on October 12, 2016, 09:32:33 AM
I feel sick
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: shaker on October 12, 2016, 09:35:20 AM
So does that mean they will cough up there 1st round for him ?
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Ringo on October 12, 2016, 09:35:45 AM
And rocky meeting with FAgan today. So could be some more interesting developments today.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: shaker on October 12, 2016, 09:40:01 AM
Cats knocked back Tigers push for Caddy looking more like Lids will be staying at Punt Rd it also says he would have to take a pay cut of 200K to fit in there salary cap if it went ahead
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: _wato on October 12, 2016, 09:45:22 AM
Quote from: shaker on October 12, 2016, 09:40:01 AM
Cats knocked back Tigers push for Caddy looking more like Lids will be staying at Punt Rd it also says he would have to take a pay cut of 200K to fit in there salary cap if it went ahead

Yeah because Geelong can pick him up for nothing end of next year as a free agent.

Also, wouldn't have to give up much for SMitch, he's 34, literally a one year contract and then a coaching role, maybe a later pick if that
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: PowerBug on October 12, 2016, 09:48:46 AM
Quote from: JBs-Hawks on October 12, 2016, 09:32:33 AM
I feel sick
Mitchell's only been your best player for 5 seasons (5BnFs), and delivered you 4 premierships in years not those 5. Don't you think he's done enough for the club you support? Unlike some of these players wanting to move club I think Mitchell is the one that should be allowed to go somewhere if he wants to!
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Purple 77 on October 12, 2016, 09:52:43 AM
Nah. Sam Mitchell, that is the biggest bombshell of the period. Will be hard to beat.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Money Shot on October 12, 2016, 09:54:31 AM

It goes to show there is no point on us trying to predict the trades Hahahaha :P
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: RaisyDaisy on October 12, 2016, 10:09:03 AM
Seems so weird, and especially since it was Clarko that suggested it

Very happy to have him on board for 12 months though!  ;D
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: strikes91 on October 12, 2016, 10:10:01 AM
Interesting to see what WCE offer. He only has a year or so left in him
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: RaisyDaisy on October 12, 2016, 10:10:44 AM
Quote from: shaker on October 12, 2016, 09:35:20 AM
So does that mean they will cough up there 1st round for him ?

1st rounder? LOL he is only playing for 1 year, and the Hawks have suggested it

Will cost us next to nothing
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Rusty00 on October 12, 2016, 10:13:09 AM
Quote from: PowerBug on October 12, 2016, 09:48:46 AM
Mitchell's only been your best player for 5 seasons (5BnFs), and delivered you 4 premierships in years not those 5. Don't you think he's done enough for the club you support? Unlike some of these players wanting to move club I think Mitchell is the one that should be allowed to go somewhere if he wants to!
It's not about "doing enough" for the club it's the thought of one of our club legends playing for another team.

Maybe I'll come around to the idea, but my initial thought is

Quote from: JBs-Hawks on October 12, 2016, 09:32:33 AM
I feel sick
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Ricochet on October 12, 2016, 10:18:00 AM
Money is on Sam Mitchell pulling the piss to stick it up media for Breust rumours
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: RaisyDaisy on October 12, 2016, 10:25:38 AM
Jon Ralph reporting that apparently Mitchell was very close to moving to West Coast last year, and that it's been something that was going to happen eventually because he was more or less moving the family over anyway to coach with us

1 year playing deal, possibly with a trigger for a second and then a 2 year coaching deal
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Gigantor on October 12, 2016, 10:25:47 AM
(http://i.imgur.com/UKiRDFO.jpg)
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: SydneyRox on October 12, 2016, 10:30:18 AM
Besides being good for Mitchell I dont really get it?

If the Hawks thought they could win a flag next year then surely they need Mitchell?
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Holz on October 12, 2016, 10:30:32 AM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on October 11, 2016, 11:38:38 PM
Let's assume Gibbs go to Crows

Rank their Top 5 players for me

Guaranteed he is on the list, and probs Top 3

No brainer - give whatever Carlton want

1. Sloane
2. Betts
3. Talia.
4. Laird
5. Lynch

im not crazy as all 5 where in the AA squad (and jenkins was aswell)

then guys like the Crouch Brothers are up there. Gibbs is good but Talia is an AA CHB and Betts is by far the best small forward in the comp. Laird is an elite rebounding half back flanker and then you can argue on Jenkins v Lynch v Gibbs


Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Jay on October 12, 2016, 10:42:06 AM
Quote from: Holz on October 12, 2016, 10:30:32 AM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on October 11, 2016, 11:38:38 PM
Let's assume Gibbs go to Crows

Rank their Top 5 players for me

Guaranteed he is on the list, and probs Top 3

No brainer - give whatever Carlton want

1. Sloane
2. Betts
3. Talia.
4. Laird
5. Lynch

im not crazy as all 5 where in the AA squad (and jenkins was aswell)

then guys like the Crouch Brothers are up there. Gibbs is good but Talia is an AA CHB and Betts is by far the best small forward in the comp. Laird is an elite rebounding half back flanker and then you can argue on Jenkins v Lynch v Gibbs
Agree. Gibbs wouldn't be top 3 for us. I understand your point though RD, he'd be right up there.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: jvalles69 on October 12, 2016, 11:05:44 AM
Whoah, massive if Mitchell comes over West.  Good looking out by the Hawks though, this is exactly how you should deal with your older players, find opportunity for them and wish them well knowing he will be done in a season or 2.  Take notes North and Geelong, or should I say Scott brothers.  No Hawks fan should be disappointed in a sense that he's getting a new opportunity, has been a legend of Hawthorn, but you'd rather see him move on like this, than kicked out the door like Boomer.

If he does decide to head West, depending on how many games he plays, I think it would also be he best chance to snag a Brownlow considering West Coasts polling history and not being the #1 guy getting tagged. *goes off to TAB to get on early*
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: RiOtChEsS on October 12, 2016, 11:05:57 AM
Apparently we want Charlie Cameron with pick 13, with Milera and Menzel in waiting surely its an option for the Crows
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: RiOtChEsS on October 12, 2016, 11:09:41 AM
Quote from: jvalles69 on October 12, 2016, 11:05:44 AM
Whoah, massive if Mitchell comes over West.  Good looking out by the Hawks though, this is exactly how you should deal with your older players, find opportunity for them and wish them well knowing he will be done in a season or 2.  Take notes North and Geelong, or should I say Scott brothers.  No Hawks fan should be disappointed in a sense that he's getting a new opportunity, has been a legend of Hawthorn, but you'd rather see him move on like this, than kicked out the door like Boomer.
yeah u make a good point there mate, my initial thought was "oh fk hawthorn" not because they are booting him out but because they are creating salary cap to cater too titch and jaeger, sick of hawthorn being relevant
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Jay on October 12, 2016, 11:24:05 AM
Quote from: RiOtChEsS on October 12, 2016, 11:05:57 AM
Apparently we want Charlie Cameron with pick 13, with Milera and Menzel in waiting surely its an option for the Crows
I can't see Cameron wanting to leave though.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: RiOtChEsS on October 12, 2016, 11:41:09 AM
Quote from: Jay on October 12, 2016, 11:24:05 AM
Quote from: RiOtChEsS on October 12, 2016, 11:05:57 AM
Apparently we want Charlie Cameron with pick 13, with Milera and Menzel in waiting surely its an option for the Crows
I can't see Cameron wanting to leave though.
WA boy too, i hope he wants to come but if he doesnt want to its just bandaiding the problem for later
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: PowerBug on October 12, 2016, 11:57:49 AM
Crows should just give them Menzel back :P
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: lachie_001 on October 12, 2016, 12:48:05 PM
Quote from: RiOtChEsS on October 12, 2016, 11:05:57 AM
Apparently we want Charlie Cameron with pick 13, with Milera and Menzel in waiting surely its an option for the Crows
Not on the table, every Crows fan would riot. Cameron is the type of player the Crows are too short of. SOS is just looking to raid Crows like he did GWS, asking for some ridiculous offers. I too am getting sick of this, please keep your 28 year old Gibbs or deal with Port.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: lachie_001 on October 12, 2016, 12:50:37 PM
Quote from: Jay on October 12, 2016, 11:24:05 AM
Quote from: RiOtChEsS on October 12, 2016, 11:05:57 AM
Apparently we want Charlie Cameron with pick 13, with Milera and Menzel in waiting surely its an option for the Crows
I can't see Cameron wanting to leave though.
I just would like to add, none of Cameron, McGovern, Lyons want to leave the Crows because none of them are fringe players. I can only see picks getting this deal done.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: elephants on October 12, 2016, 01:15:17 PM
As people have stated, Gibbs is the final piece in the Crows premiership puzzle. These A-Grade mids don't pop up on the trade table often, so when one specifically states he wants to go to Adelaide (of all places) you've gotta come to the table.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Money Shot on October 12, 2016, 01:16:51 PM
Quote from: elephants on October 12, 2016, 01:15:17 PM
As people have stated, Gibbs is the final piece in the Crows premiership puzzle. These A-Grade mids don't pop up on the trade table often, so when one specifically states he wants to go to Adelaide (of all places) you've gotta come to the table.
They won't wanna give up players like Cameron or McGovern but pick 14 and next years first will do ;)
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: PowerBug on October 12, 2016, 01:17:48 PM
Quote from: lachie_001 on October 12, 2016, 12:50:37 PM
Quote from: Jay on October 12, 2016, 11:24:05 AM
Quote from: RiOtChEsS on October 12, 2016, 11:05:57 AM
Apparently we want Charlie Cameron with pick 13, with Milera and Menzel in waiting surely its an option for the Crows
I can't see Cameron wanting to leave though.
I just would like to add, none of Cameron, McGovern, Lyons want to leave the Crows because none of them are fringe players. I can only see picks getting this deal done.
Cam Ellis-Yolmen? Where's he at regarding his future? Clearly a fringe player, and if Gibbs was to come to the club he'd be pushed back another spot in the list.

Quote from: Money Shot on October 12, 2016, 01:16:51 PM
Quote from: elephants on October 12, 2016, 01:15:17 PM
As people have stated, Gibbs is the final piece in the Crows premiership puzzle. These A-Grade mids don't pop up on the trade table often, so when one specifically states he wants to go to Adelaide (of all places) you've gotta come to the table.
They won't wanna give up players like Cameron or McGovern but pick 14 and next years first will do ;)
And then they have a year like Freo 2016 right? ;D Waiting for the time a team trades away a future first rounder and they fall to the bottom of the ladder, it'll probably be Port which will make me stop laughing no doubt :'(
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: kilbluff1985 on October 12, 2016, 01:27:19 PM
CEY is really decent think Wright/Kerridge standard has done well when gotten a game
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Ricochet on October 12, 2016, 01:33:42 PM
Quote from: Holz on October 12, 2016, 10:30:32 AM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on October 11, 2016, 11:38:38 PM
Let's assume Gibbs go to Crows

Rank their Top 5 players for me

Guaranteed he is on the list, and probs Top 3

No brainer - give whatever Carlton want

1. Sloane
2. Betts
3. Talia.
4. Laird
5. Lynch

im not crazy as all 5 where in the AA squad (and jenkins was aswell)

then guys like the Crouch Brothers are up there. Gibbs is good but Talia is an AA CHB and Betts is by far the best small forward in the comp. Laird is an elite rebounding half back flanker and then you can argue on Jenkins v Lynch v Gibbs
Gibbs would be the Crows 2nd best mid though...
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: elephants on October 12, 2016, 01:38:57 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on October 12, 2016, 01:33:42 PM
Quote from: Holz on October 12, 2016, 10:30:32 AM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on October 11, 2016, 11:38:38 PM
Let's assume Gibbs go to Crows

Rank their Top 5 players for me

Guaranteed he is on the list, and probs Top 3

No brainer - give whatever Carlton want

1. Sloane
2. Betts
3. Talia.
4. Laird
5. Lynch

im not crazy as all 5 where in the AA squad (and jenkins was aswell)

then guys like the Crouch Brothers are up there. Gibbs is good but Talia is an AA CHB and Betts is by far the best small forward in the comp. Laird is an elite rebounding half back flanker and then you can argue on Jenkins v Lynch v Gibbs
Gibbs would be the Crows 2nd best mid though...
Exactly and it been said numerous times that the midfield is where they lack a star after Dangerfield left.

That said, I do rate CEY and I reckon he'd be a good fit at the Blues.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Jay on October 12, 2016, 02:19:42 PM
Quote from: elephants on October 12, 2016, 01:15:17 PM
As people have stated, Gibbs is the final piece in the Crows premiership puzzle. These A-Grade mids don't pop up on the trade table often, so when one specifically states he wants to go to Adelaide (of all places) you've gotta come to the table.
Oh no please don't use this term. If it backfires we'll cop it big time given the amount of shower we've given Port for their recent premiership puzzle recruits :P

He wants to come here, make it happen Crows! Just make sure to hang up the phone if Carlton start going crazy.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: elephants on October 12, 2016, 02:24:27 PM
Quote from: Jay on October 12, 2016, 02:19:42 PM
Quote from: elephants on October 12, 2016, 01:15:17 PM
As people have stated, Gibbs is the final piece in the Crows premiership puzzle. These A-Grade mids don't pop up on the trade table often, so when one specifically states he wants to go to Adelaide (of all places) you've gotta come to the table.
Oh no please don't use this term. If it backfires we'll cop it big time given the amount of shower we've given Port for their recent premiership puzzle recruits :P

He wants to come here, make it happen Crows! Just make sure to hang up the phone if Carlton start going crazy.

Hahahaa its the worst phrase in footy :P Lewis Jetta and Jack Redden were supposed to be our final pieces ;D
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: lachie_001 on October 12, 2016, 02:28:40 PM
Quote from: elephants on October 12, 2016, 01:15:17 PM
As people have stated, Gibbs is the final piece in the Crows premiership puzzle. These A-Grade mids don't pop up on the trade table often, so when one specifically states he wants to go to Adelaide (of all places) you've gotta come to the table.
I am sick of hearing this "pieces" to this so called premiership puzzle. Theres no such thing, Ryder was meant to be ports premiership piece. How have they gone so far? Premierships are incredibly hard to win and you need a lot of variables to go your way. But Adelaide are at the table and they've put pick 13 up, Carlton are coming back asking for Cameron. So how about Carlton come to the table, look at pick 13 and stop asking us to pair it with our future stars. For flowering sake, is SOS the new Adrian Dodoro?
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: kilbluff1985 on October 12, 2016, 02:32:50 PM
it's because you're taking the phrase to literally

it means Gibbs is the best option to give Crows the highest chance to win a flag
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: elephants on October 12, 2016, 02:33:18 PM
Quote from: lachie_001 on October 12, 2016, 02:28:40 PM
Quote from: elephants on October 12, 2016, 01:15:17 PM
As people have stated, Gibbs is the final piece in the Crows premiership puzzle. These A-Grade mids don't pop up on the trade table often, so when one specifically states he wants to go to Adelaide (of all places) you've gotta come to the table.
I am sick of hearing this "pieces" to this so called premiership puzzle. Theres no such thing, Ryder was meant to be ports premiership piece. How have they gone so far? Premierships are incredibly hard to win and you need a lot of variables to go your way. But Adelaide are at the table and they've put pick 13 up, Carlton are coming back asking for Cameron. So how about Carlton come to the table, look at pick 13 and stop asking us to pair it with our future stars. For flowering sake, is SOS the new Adrian Dodoro?

Okay, forget the puzzle piece analogy.

Your biggest weakness is the gaping hole in your midfield left by Dangerfield.

Gibbs is not Dangerfield, but he is about the closest thing you will get to Dangerfield on the market right now.

You do the math.

Puzzle out.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: GoLions on October 12, 2016, 02:34:44 PM
Haven't read through all these other comments, but I for one believe that Gibbs is the final piece to the Crows premiership puzzle
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: jvalles69 on October 12, 2016, 02:39:01 PM
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on October 12, 2016, 02:32:50 PM
it's because you're taking the phrase to literally

it means Gibbs is the best option to give Crows the highest chance to win a flag

^This.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: shaker on October 12, 2016, 02:45:15 PM
Gibbs Gibbs Gibbs Gibbs Gibbs Gibbs Gibbs Gibbs Gibbs ... someone else do a bloody trade or announce they are close to a trade or something so we can stop talking about

                                                              Gibbs  :P
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Rusty00 on October 12, 2016, 02:46:04 PM
Quote from: lachie_001 on October 12, 2016, 02:28:40 PM
Quote from: elephants on October 12, 2016, 01:15:17 PM
As people have stated, Gibbs is the final piece in the Crows premiership puzzle. These A-Grade mids don't pop up on the trade table often, so when one specifically states he wants to go to Adelaide (of all places) you've gotta come to the table.
I am sick of hearing this "pieces" to this so called premiership puzzle. Theres no such thing, Ryder was meant to be ports premiership piece. How have they gone so far? Premierships are incredibly hard to win and you need a lot of variables to go your way. But Adelaide are at the table and they've put pick 13 up, Carlton are coming back asking for Cameron. So how about Carlton come to the table, look at pick 13 and stop asking us to pair it with our future stars. For flowering sake, is SOS the new Adrian Dodoro?
LOL you are getting way too fired up about this :P

You do realise the stuff reported in the media/social media is not everything that is discussed behind closed doors between the clubs and a lot of what's reported is not totally accurate anyway? Do you think Carlton are just going to roll over and say "oh, our second best player wants to leave, here Adelaide have him for nothing" Of course they're going to explore what the Crows may be willing to give up. It's called negotiating :P
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: elephants on October 12, 2016, 02:47:49 PM
Sam Mitchell > Gibbs

Smitch Smitch Smitch <3
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Rusty00 on October 12, 2016, 02:57:42 PM
Quote from: elephants on October 12, 2016, 02:47:49 PM
Sam Mitchell > Gibbs

Smitch Smitch Smitch <3
Is he the missing piece to your premiership puzzle?

Or can Collingwood afford him in their salary cap?
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: elephants on October 12, 2016, 03:01:05 PM
Quote from: Rusty00 on October 12, 2016, 02:57:42 PM
Quote from: elephants on October 12, 2016, 02:47:49 PM
Sam Mitchell > Gibbs

Smitch Smitch Smitch <3
Is he the missing piece to your premiership puzzle?

Or can Collingwood afford him in their salary cap?

Hahahaha yesssss
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: RiOtChEsS on October 12, 2016, 03:12:41 PM
Quote from: Rusty00 on October 12, 2016, 02:46:04 PM
Quote from: lachie_001 on October 12, 2016, 02:28:40 PM
Quote from: elephants on October 12, 2016, 01:15:17 PM
As people have stated, Gibbs is the final piece in the Crows premiership puzzle. These A-Grade mids don't pop up on the trade table often, so when one specifically states he wants to go to Adelaide (of all places) you've gotta come to the table.
I am sick of hearing this "pieces" to this so called premiership puzzle. Theres no such thing, Ryder was meant to be ports premiership piece. How have they gone so far? Premierships are incredibly hard to win and you need a lot of variables to go your way. But Adelaide are at the table and they've put pick 13 up, Carlton are coming back asking for Cameron. So how about Carlton come to the table, look at pick 13 and stop asking us to pair it with our future stars. For flowering sake, is SOS the new Adrian Dodoro?
LOL you are getting way too fired up about this :P

You do realise the stuff reported in the media/social media is not everything that is discussed behind closed doors between the clubs and a lot of what's reported is not totally accurate anyway? Do you think Carlton are just going to roll over and say "oh, our second best player wants to leave, here Adelaide have him for nothing" Of course they're going to explore what the Crows may be willing to give up. It's called negotiating :P
haha exactly ;) Crows fans be like we will have your second best player but your not even getting one of our forward pockets, take a sanfl player, but we're being unreasonable :D
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Money Shot on October 12, 2016, 03:29:11 PM
Adelaide aren't giving up Ellis Yolmen or Lyons for you know who ;)

And people like Cameron, McGovern and the crouch brothers aren't going anywhere!

dont have any idea on how this is going to get done ::)

Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Nige on October 12, 2016, 03:33:44 PM
Tyrone Vickery and Tom Mitchell are final pieces of Hawthorn's next threepeat puzzle.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: AaronKirk on October 12, 2016, 03:36:21 PM
There are no doubts in my mind that Sam Mitchell will play longer than 1 more season if he wants to.

He is one of the only players in the comp that as a midfielder his career is not dictated by leg speed because he reads the play so well.

Gives Priddis a chop out getting the hard ball. He is a good fit at West Coast.

Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: GoLions on October 12, 2016, 03:38:04 PM
Patfull retired :(
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: kilbluff1985 on October 12, 2016, 03:39:04 PM
would of been nice to see Nic Nat working with Smitch
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: meow meow on October 12, 2016, 03:39:57 PM
Quote from: meow meow on September 01, 2016, 08:52:32 PM
Matt Boyd hasn't been offered a contract yet, because the Dogs are trying to replace him with Brett Deledio.

Lids to the Dogs is happening. Will send the picks we get for Stevens, Rat and Honey to Richmond. Stevens a chance to go there himself.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: elephants on October 12, 2016, 03:40:58 PM
Quote from: AaronKirk on October 12, 2016, 03:36:21 PM
There are no doubts in my mind that Sam Mitchell will play longer than 1 more season if he wants to.

He is one of the only players in the comp that as a midfielder his career is not dictated by leg speed because he reads the play so well.

Gives Priddis a chop out getting the hard ball. He is a good fit at West Coast.

Yeah if we can get him for the third rounder I couldn't be happier. Would give guys like Sheed and Duggan some extra time to fill out and establish themselves, plus he's not a bad bloke to learn from (Duggan!)

If we can get Smitch and Waterman with our second and third rounder I'll be flowering stoked!
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: kilbluff1985 on October 12, 2016, 03:45:45 PM
Greater Western Sydney defender Joel Patfull has announced his retirement.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Mat0369 on October 12, 2016, 03:46:04 PM
Quote from: Money Shot on October 12, 2016, 03:29:11 PM
Adelaide aren't giving up Ellis Yolmen or Lyons for you know who ;)

And people like Cameron, McGovern and the crouch brothers aren't going anywhere!

dont have any idea on how this is going to get done ::)

It probably won't.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: powersuperkents on October 12, 2016, 03:50:02 PM
Quote from: lachie_001 on October 12, 2016, 02:28:40 PM
Quote from: elephants on October 12, 2016, 01:15:17 PM
As people have stated, Gibbs is the final piece in the Crows premiership puzzle. These A-Grade mids don't pop up on the trade table often, so when one specifically states he wants to go to Adelaide (of all places) you've gotta come to the table.
I am sick of hearing this "pieces" to this so called premiership puzzle. Theres no such thing, Ryder was meant to be ports premiership piece. How have they gone so far? Premierships are incredibly hard to win and you need a lot of variables to go your way. But Adelaide are at the table and they've put pick 13 up, Carlton are coming back asking for Cameron. So how about Carlton come to the table, look at pick 13 and stop asking us to pair it with our future stars. For flowering sake, is SOS the new Adrian Dodoro?
+1

It's a bs metaphor by the media to sell stories

It also just makes supporters frustrated

The only case in which it's actually been accurate was Brian Lake to Hawthorn (and I'm pretty sure that the media were sceptical of the trade at the time, before calling it the completion of the 'premiership puzzle' in retrospect).

You have to take the opportunity when it arises and even having the best list is no guarantee (the Bulldogs were considered one of the weaker lists over the last two season, however, players stood up when it counted and the gameplan allowed them to grind out wins against the opposition for 4 straight weeks - no 'final piece' required)   

That being said, Gibbs is a quality player and Pick 13 + a player is more than fair if Adelaide want to bargain in good faith
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: elephants on October 12, 2016, 03:54:17 PM
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on October 12, 2016, 02:32:50 PM
it's because you're taking the phrase to literally

it means Gibbs is the best option to give Crows the highest chance to win a flag
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: meow meow on October 12, 2016, 03:57:53 PM
Considered to be a weaker list by who?! Over the past 6 years no team (GWS aside) hasn't come close to getting as much quality through the draft as us. We've got the 2nd best list in the league. Can't believe everyone was hyping up Richmond this time last year but had us falling from the 8.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: TomK on October 12, 2016, 03:58:31 PM
Quote from: Mat0369 on October 12, 2016, 03:46:04 PM
Quote from: Money Shot on October 12, 2016, 03:29:11 PM
Adelaide aren't giving up Ellis Yolmen or Lyons for you know who ;)

And people like Cameron, McGovern and the crouch brothers aren't going anywhere!

dont have any idea on how this is going to get done ::)

It probably won't.
Haha what? Yes it will.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Rusty00 on October 12, 2016, 03:59:57 PM
Quote from: powersuperkents on October 12, 2016, 03:50:02 PM
You have to take the opportunity when it arises and even having the best list is no guarantee (the Bulldogs were considered one of the weaker lists over the last two season, however, players stood up when it counted and the gameplan allowed them to grind out wins against the opposition for 4 straight weeks - no 'final piece' required)   
Tom Boyd ;) :P
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: kilbluff1985 on October 12, 2016, 04:01:34 PM
Quote from: elephants on October 12, 2016, 03:54:17 PM
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on October 12, 2016, 02:32:50 PM
it's because you're taking the phrase to literally

it means Gibbs is the best option to give Crows the highest chance to win a flag
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: elephants on October 12, 2016, 04:01:53 PM
I regret even using the final piece of the puzzle metaphor now hahaha
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: GoLions on October 12, 2016, 04:02:53 PM
Quote from: elephants on October 12, 2016, 04:01:53 PM
I regret even using the final piece of the puzzle metaphor now hahaha
Let's be honest, you don't :P
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Nige on October 12, 2016, 04:09:46 PM
Quote from: GoLions on October 12, 2016, 04:02:53 PM
Quote from: elephants on October 12, 2016, 04:01:53 PM
I regret even using the final piece of the puzzle metaphor now hahaha
Let's be honest, you don't :P
What is memed may never die.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: elephants on October 12, 2016, 04:10:34 PM
Quote from: GoLions on October 12, 2016, 04:02:53 PM
Quote from: elephants on October 12, 2016, 04:01:53 PM
I regret even using the final piece of the puzzle metaphor now hahaha
Let's be honest, you don't :P

You know me too well haha. Just as the Collingwood salary cap one was dying :P
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Scrads on October 12, 2016, 04:21:29 PM
Quote from: elephants on October 12, 2016, 04:10:34 PM
Quote from: GoLions on October 12, 2016, 04:02:53 PM
Quote from: elephants on October 12, 2016, 04:01:53 PM
I regret even using the final piece of the puzzle metaphor now hahaha
Let's be honest, you don't :P

You know me too well haha. Just as the Collingwood salary cap one was dying :P

If only Spite could explain for us how Gibbs is the missing piece of the puzzle???
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Ringo on October 12, 2016, 04:37:13 PM
Quote from: GoLions on October 12, 2016, 03:38:04 PM
Patfull retired :(
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2016-10-12/patfull-calls-time-set-to-sit-on-giants-rookie-list

What is going on here retirng - will be picked up in rookie draft and not play. To use a well known expression "Please Explain"
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: LF on October 12, 2016, 04:52:01 PM
Just saw this tweet,not sure if anyone has posted it yet

NAB AFL Trade Radio âœ" @traderadio
.@barrettdamian: James Aish and Levi Greenwood have had their names floated on trade table by the Pies to at least one club #NABTradeRadio
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: GoLions on October 12, 2016, 04:55:20 PM
Quote from: LF on October 12, 2016, 04:52:01 PM
Just saw this tweet,not sure if anyone has posted it yet

NAB AFL Trade Radio âœ" @traderadio
.@barrettdamian: James Aish and Levi Greenwood have had their names floated on trade table by the Pies to at least one club #NABTradeRadio
Aish to be at his 3rd club after 3 years of footy? Haha will laugh so hard if this happens
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: PowerBug on October 12, 2016, 04:56:47 PM
And Greenwood to be at 3 clubs in 3 years too?! I doubt that one. Both finished the year pretty well.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: RiOtChEsS on October 12, 2016, 04:57:55 PM
Quote from: GoLions on October 12, 2016, 04:55:20 PM
Quote from: LF on October 12, 2016, 04:52:01 PM
Just saw this tweet,not sure if anyone has posted it yet

NAB AFL Trade Radio âœ" @traderadio
.@barrettdamian: James Aish and Levi Greenwood have had their names floated on trade table by the Pies to at least one club #NABTradeRadio
Aish to be at his 3rd club after 3 years of footy? Haha will laugh so hard if this happens
come to collingwood where we trade you in this season and out the next ;D
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: GoLions on October 12, 2016, 04:59:48 PM
This would probably answer all of our salary cap questions though
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: elephants on October 12, 2016, 05:00:54 PM
The real question here is, whose premiership puzzle does Greenwood and Aish complete?!
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: JBs-Hawks on October 12, 2016, 05:02:37 PM
Surely Aish back to Brissie for Rocky  ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: RaisyDaisy on October 12, 2016, 05:14:45 PM
Hawthorn has confirmed an "in-principle" deal with the Sydney Swans has been reached for Tom Mitchell to join the Hawks.

The deal involves the Swans receiving the Hawks' pick No.14 in this year's NAB AFL Draft. The club's have also agreed to swap later picks in a trade that will be formalised next week.

Kersten has requested a trade to Freo

Here's a summary of everything Colin Young and colleague Andrew McDougall are working on right now in NAB AFL Trade Radio.

Premiership Bulldog Joel Hamling will likely decide by Friday if he will seek a trade to Fremantle

Chris Mayne will become a Collingwood player once the final details of his contract are ticked off in the next two days

Jarrod Pickett is attempting to move to Carlton with a deal still being worked out between the clubs

Reece Conca has been offered a two-year contract extension with Richmond, which he is working through

Anthony Morabito remains hopeful he'll be given a chance, potentially as a rookie, later in the exchange period

Young was emphatic that Adelaide pair Charlie Cameron and Mitch McGovern would be playing with the Crows next year. Both have been sought out by Carlton as part of a trade for Bryce Gibbs.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: TomK on October 12, 2016, 05:21:12 PM
Apparently Rocky being spotted boarding a flight from Melbourne to Adelaide.

https://twitter.com/frang10/status/786069778565857280/photo/1?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: roo boys! on October 12, 2016, 05:23:15 PM
Quote from: TomK on October 12, 2016, 05:21:12 PM
Apparently Rocky being spotted boarding a flight from Melbourne to Adelaide.

https://twitter.com/frang10/status/786069778565857280/photo/1?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw
Looks like he's itching for a fresh start
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Ringo on October 12, 2016, 05:28:06 PM
Quote from: roo boys! on October 12, 2016, 05:23:15 PM
Quote from: TomK on October 12, 2016, 05:21:12 PM
Apparently Rocky being spotted boarding a flight from Melbourne to Adelaide.

https://twitter.com/frang10/status/786069778565857280/photo/1?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw
Looks like he's itching for a fresh start
http://www.lions.com.au/news/2016-10-12/fagan-noble-meet-with-rockliff
This is about all that comes out of the article.
“We won’t say any more about what were private discussions."

Guess the meeting did not go well  ;)
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: GoLions on October 12, 2016, 05:33:54 PM
For some reason it says the tweet was posted last night for me?

Would like to know where Rocky and Fagan met though, as it didn't finish that long ago. If it was in Brissy, that pic could be from a while ago.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Jay on October 12, 2016, 05:38:09 PM
Quote from: Money Shot on October 12, 2016, 03:29:11 PM
Adelaide aren't giving up Ellis Yolmen or Lyons for you know who ;)

And people like Cameron, McGovern and the crouch brothers aren't going anywhere!

dont have any idea on how this is going to get done ::)
I'd say we'd be willing to part with an Ellis Yolmen or Lyons + a pick. But would be shocked if Brad Crouch or Cameron was traded. Basically because they'd have to want to leave - which I don't see as likely.

Let's use stats to avoid the Crows supporters who wouldn't give up a half eaten Mars bar for Gibbs, and avoid the Carlton supporters who have mistaken Gibbs for Koutoufides the last 5 years. I've scaled the numbers to give Lyons the same TOG% as Gibbs.

Lyons: 24.7 disposals, 3.8 marks, 0.9 goals, 5.4 tackles, 4.3 I50s, 1 goal assist, 11.9 contested, 13.2 uncontested, 67.6 efficiency, 2.5 clangers, 4.8 clearances

Gibbs: 26.8 disaposals, 3.5 marks, 0.8 goals, 5.2 tackles, 4.5 I50s, 0.7 assists, 9.7 contested, 17 uncontested, 69.8 efficiency, 2.9 clangers, 4.7 clerances.

So those are the difference in numbers, seem pretty similar to me. Oh and Lyons is 4 years younger. Does pick 13 bridge the 'gap' between the two players? Of course it does, in fact it is probably far too much. Keep in mind that it was a career best year for Gibbs, whereas really it was Lyons' first crack getting a consistent game. If Carlton want anything more then tell them to get stuffed and enjoy being bottom 6 for the duration of Gibbs' prime, Lyons will probably be better than Gibbs in a couple of seasons anyway. Yes I'd like this deal to happen to really have a crack at a flag during the prime of Sloane, Tex etc. but if it costs more than Lyons and a first round pick, it would just be silly to damage our future that much when if you look at the numbers, Lyons for Gibbs is probably fair straight swap when you factor in age anyway.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Grazz on October 12, 2016, 05:40:40 PM
Mitchell to the Hawks for pick 14 and the Blues want pick 13 and multiple players and a puppy etc etc for Gibbs bahahahahahah. Flower me.  :-\
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: TomK on October 12, 2016, 05:41:50 PM
Quote from: GoLions on October 12, 2016, 05:33:54 PM
For some reason it says the tweet was posted last night for me?

Would like to know where Rocky and Fagan met though, as it didn't finish that long ago. If it was in Brissy, that pic could be from a while ago.
Twitter uses Pacific Time (American) I think which is 17hrs behind AEST so it might be legit.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: JBs-Hawks on October 12, 2016, 05:44:54 PM
Quote from: Grazz on October 12, 2016, 05:40:40 PM
Mitchell to the Hawks for pick 14 and the Blues want pick 13 and multiple players and a puppy etc etc for Gibbs bahahahahahah. Flower me.  :-\

Gibbs is contracted for 3 years.........
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: GoLions on October 12, 2016, 05:45:28 PM
Quote from: TomK on October 12, 2016, 05:41:50 PM
Quote from: GoLions on October 12, 2016, 05:33:54 PM
For some reason it says the tweet was posted last night for me?

Would like to know where Rocky and Fagan met though, as it didn't finish that long ago. If it was in Brissy, that pic could be from a while ago.
Twitter uses Pacific Time (American) I think which is 17hrs behind AEST so it might be legit.
Poo :P
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Purple 77 on October 12, 2016, 05:46:01 PM
Sigh. After being active for 4 straight years, I guess Melbourne were due for a quiet trade period  :-\

Still, I'm a sucker for more trade drama!
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: TomK on October 12, 2016, 05:47:35 PM
Quote from: Grazz on October 12, 2016, 05:40:40 PM
Mitchell to the Hawks for pick 14 and the Blues want pick 13 and multiple players and a puppy etc etc for Gibbs bahahahahahah. Flower me.  :-\
Listen to Kane Cornes people, the voice of reason ;D ;)

Kane Cornes ‏@kanecornes  29m29 minutes ago
Tom Mitchell traded to Hawks for pick 14. Hard now for Carlton to argue Gibbs, at 28, is worth more than Adelaide's pick 13 #NABTradeRadio
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: elephants on October 12, 2016, 05:55:35 PM
Quote from: TomK on October 12, 2016, 05:47:35 PM
Quote from: Grazz on October 12, 2016, 05:40:40 PM
Mitchell to the Hawks for pick 14 and the Blues want pick 13 and multiple players and a puppy etc etc for Gibbs bahahahahahah. Flower me.  :-\
Listen to Kane Cornes people, the voice of reason ;D ;)

Kane Cornes ‏@kanecornes  29m29 minutes ago
Tom Mitchell traded to Hawks for pick 14. Hard now for Carlton to argue Gibbs, at 28, is worth more than Adelaide's pick 13 #NABTradeRadio

Consider the contract situation lads!
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Vinny on October 12, 2016, 05:56:00 PM
Quote from: JBs-Hawks on October 12, 2016, 05:44:54 PM
Quote from: Grazz on October 12, 2016, 05:40:40 PM
Mitchell to the Hawks for pick 14 and the Blues want pick 13 and multiple players and a puppy etc etc for Gibbs bahahahahahah. Flower me.  :-\

Gibbs is contracted for 3 years.........
Been said about a million times but people don't understand...

Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: TomK on October 12, 2016, 05:56:56 PM
Quote from: elephants on October 12, 2016, 05:55:35 PM
Quote from: TomK on October 12, 2016, 05:47:35 PM
Quote from: Grazz on October 12, 2016, 05:40:40 PM
Mitchell to the Hawks for pick 14 and the Blues want pick 13 and multiple players and a puppy etc etc for Gibbs bahahahahahah. Flower me.  :-\
Listen to Kane Cornes people, the voice of reason ;D ;)

Kane Cornes ‏@kanecornes  29m29 minutes ago
Tom Mitchell traded to Hawks for pick 14. Hard now for Carlton to argue Gibbs, at 28, is worth more than Adelaide's pick 13 #NABTradeRadio

Consider the contract situation lads!
Hahah I was just taking the piss
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: JBs-Hawks on October 12, 2016, 05:58:52 PM
Quote from: Vinny on October 12, 2016, 05:56:00 PM
Quote from: JBs-Hawks on October 12, 2016, 05:44:54 PM
Quote from: Grazz on October 12, 2016, 05:40:40 PM
Mitchell to the Hawks for pick 14 and the Blues want pick 13 and multiple players and a puppy etc etc for Gibbs bahahahahahah. Flower me.  :-\

Gibbs is contracted for 3 years.........
Been said about a million times but crows fans don't understand...
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: PowerBug on October 12, 2016, 05:59:31 PM
But Jay, Lyons having less TOG might be a reflection of his poor fitness levels ;) :P
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: TomK on October 12, 2016, 06:03:13 PM
I really just want this deal to be over and done with already to be honest.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: GoLions on October 12, 2016, 06:03:46 PM
Quote from: TomK on October 12, 2016, 06:03:13 PM
I really just want this deal to be over and done with already to be honest.
Nah, that's not as much fun for the rest of us though :P
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: TomK on October 12, 2016, 06:05:40 PM
Quote from: GoLions on October 12, 2016, 06:03:46 PM
Quote from: TomK on October 12, 2016, 06:03:13 PM
I really just want this deal to be over and done with already to be honest.
Nah, that's not as much fun for the rest of us though :P
I was talking about Rocky though ;)
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: GoLions on October 12, 2016, 06:06:00 PM
Quote from: TomK on October 12, 2016, 06:05:40 PM
Quote from: GoLions on October 12, 2016, 06:03:46 PM
Quote from: TomK on October 12, 2016, 06:03:13 PM
I really just want this deal to be over and done with already to be honest.
Nah, that's not as much fun for the rest of us though :P
I was talking about Rocky though ;)
I'll cut ya
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Jay on October 12, 2016, 06:07:17 PM
Quote from: PowerBug on October 12, 2016, 05:59:31 PM
But Jay, Lyons having less TOG might be a reflection of his poor fitness levels ;) :P
I think its more the fact that we rotated a lot of guys through the midfield last season and our forward line isn't an easy one to get a gig in!

Look at Kerridge and Matty Wright, both had career seasons once they got that increased opportunity. And Lyons is far better than both of them.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: PowerBug on October 12, 2016, 06:10:40 PM
Quote from: Jay on October 12, 2016, 06:07:17 PM
Quote from: PowerBug on October 12, 2016, 05:59:31 PM
But Jay, Lyons having less TOG might be a reflection of his poor fitness levels ;) :P
I think its more the fact that we rotated a lot of guys through the midfield last season and our forward line isn't an easy one to get a gig in!

Look at Kerridge and Matty Wright, both had career seasons once they got that increased opportunity. And Lyons is far better than both of them.
It might be, but it might also be the case that Lyons would get rotated less if his fitness was better ;) Maybe I'm wrong, I'm definitely taking the piss like everyone else (except most Crows fans) in this thread, but your assumption might be incorrect ;)
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: strikes91 on October 12, 2016, 06:11:37 PM
Quote from: TomK on October 12, 2016, 05:21:12 PM
Apparently Rocky being spotted boarding a flight from Melbourne to Adelaide.

https://twitter.com/frang10/status/786069778565857280/photo/1?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw

Only 4pm flight was to sydney or brisbane departing melbourne
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Gigantor on October 12, 2016, 06:12:59 PM
Collingwood FC âœ" @CollingwoodFC
Another new Magpie. Chris Mayne crosses the country to become a Pie in 2017. Welcome aboard Chris! #sidebyside
2:05 PM - 12 Oct 2016
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: valkorum on October 12, 2016, 06:14:46 PM
Quote from: Gigantor on October 12, 2016, 06:12:59 PM
Collingwood FC âœ" @CollingwoodFC
Another new Magpie. Chris Mayne crosses the country to become a Pie in 2017. Welcome aboard Chris! #sidebyside
2:05 PM - 12 Oct 2016

Was always happening - just need to know the compo pick that Freo get in return :)
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: elephants on October 12, 2016, 06:15:03 PM
Quote from: TomK on October 12, 2016, 05:56:56 PM
Quote from: elephants on October 12, 2016, 05:55:35 PM
Quote from: TomK on October 12, 2016, 05:47:35 PM
Quote from: Grazz on October 12, 2016, 05:40:40 PM
Mitchell to the Hawks for pick 14 and the Blues want pick 13 and multiple players and a puppy etc etc for Gibbs bahahahahahah. Flower me.  :-\
Listen to Kane Cornes people, the voice of reason ;D ;)

Kane Cornes ‏@kanecornes  29m29 minutes ago
Tom Mitchell traded to Hawks for pick 14. Hard now for Carlton to argue Gibbs, at 28, is worth more than Adelaide's pick 13 #NABTradeRadio

Consider the contract situation lads!
Hahah I was just taking the piss

hahaha kb moment
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Grazz on October 12, 2016, 06:17:53 PM
Quote from: JBs-Hawks on October 12, 2016, 05:44:54 PM
Quote from: Grazz on October 12, 2016, 05:40:40 PM
Mitchell to the Hawks for pick 14 and the Blues want pick 13 and multiple players and a puppy etc etc for Gibbs bahahahahahah. Flower me.  :-\

Gibbs is contracted for 3 years.........

So flowering what, he wants out. Contracts mean sweet FA these days have for years all of a sudden their important again.

Quote from: JBs-Hawks on October 12, 2016, 05:58:52 PM
Quote from: Vinny on October 12, 2016, 05:56:00 PM
Quote from: JBs-Hawks on October 12, 2016, 05:44:54 PM
Quote from: Grazz on October 12, 2016, 05:40:40 PM
Mitchell to the Hawks for pick 14 and the Blues want pick 13 and multiple players and a puppy etc etc for Gibbs bahahahahahah. Flower me.  :-\

Gibbs is contracted for 3 years.........
Been said about a million times but crows fans don't understand...

We understand fine thanks mate, I think people are putting to much value in this 3 years left when it means jack shower, contracts haven't mattered for how long now all of a sudden they do, sheeeeesh.
He want's out whats so hard to understand. How the hell can Mitchell go to the Hawks for #14 and a couple of late picks yet Gibbs who is older is going to cost #13 and a some good players. It's a Crows thing I get it.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: TomK on October 12, 2016, 06:21:47 PM
Quote from: strikes91 on October 12, 2016, 06:11:37 PM
Quote from: TomK on October 12, 2016, 05:21:12 PM
Apparently Rocky being spotted boarding a flight from Melbourne to Adelaide.

https://twitter.com/frang10/status/786069778565857280/photo/1?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw

Only 4pm flight was to sydney or brisbane departing melbourne
Could have been boarding at 4 and that's what they meant, Adelaide flight left at 4:35
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: strikes91 on October 12, 2016, 06:22:08 PM
Lol rocky not in Adelaide. bloke that put up the picture owns up.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: JBs-Hawks on October 12, 2016, 06:22:18 PM
Quote from: Grazz on October 12, 2016, 06:17:53 PM
Quote from: JBs-Hawks on October 12, 2016, 05:44:54 PM
Quote from: Grazz on October 12, 2016, 05:40:40 PM
Mitchell to the Hawks for pick 14 and the Blues want pick 13 and multiple players and a puppy etc etc for Gibbs bahahahahahah. Flower me.  :-\

Gibbs is contracted for 3 years.........

So flowering what, he wants out. Contracts mean sweet FA these days have for years all of a sudden their important again.

Quote from: JBs-Hawks on October 12, 2016, 05:58:52 PM
Quote from: Vinny on October 12, 2016, 05:56:00 PM
Quote from: JBs-Hawks on October 12, 2016, 05:44:54 PM
Quote from: Grazz on October 12, 2016, 05:40:40 PM
Mitchell to the Hawks for pick 14 and the Blues want pick 13 and multiple players and a puppy etc etc for Gibbs bahahahahahah. Flower me.  :-\

Gibbs is contracted for 3 years.........
Been said about a million times but crows fans don't understand...

We understand fine thanks mate, I think people are putting to much value in this 3 years left when it means jack shower, contracts haven't mattered for how long now all of a sudden they do, sheeeeesh.
He want's out whats so hard to understand. How the hell can Mitchell go to the Hawks for #14 and a couple of late picks yet Gibbs who is older is going to cost #13 and a some good players. It's a Crows thing I get it.

Because if Sydney dont trade Mitchell then he walks to the draft, if Carlton dont broker a trade for Gibbs then he still wears Blue next year!

He wont sit out like sooky McCarthy i bet he still loves the Blues he would just prefer a trade home.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: TomK on October 12, 2016, 06:24:11 PM
Quote from: strikes91 on October 12, 2016, 06:22:08 PM
Lol rocky not in Adelaide. bloke that put up the picture owns up.
:'(

what a shower bloke getting my hopes up like that hahaha
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: strikes91 on October 12, 2016, 06:26:57 PM
Quote from: TomK on October 12, 2016, 06:24:11 PM
Quote from: strikes91 on October 12, 2016, 06:22:08 PM
Lol rocky not in Adelaide. bloke that put up the picture owns up.
:'(

what a shower bloke getting my hopes up like that hahaha

He was in Melbourne today but for a meeting with Chris Fagan
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Vinny on October 12, 2016, 06:27:22 PM
What kind of argument is contracts don't matter? Gibbs is contracted at Carlton and if we can't find a trade we like, he will stay. Not going to let players leave for less than what we think is right because contracts don't matter apparently.

Gibbs requested a trade because they had a kid and his wife wants to be closer to home. I can guarantee he still loves the Blues. He is an A-Grade midfielder and vital to a rebuilding club like ours for leadership; so we are perfectly entitled to play hard ball.

Would be a great get for Adelaide and I'm happy for him to go but if SOS isn't happy with the deal, then he won't go.

Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Jay on October 12, 2016, 06:29:58 PM
Quote from: PowerBug on October 12, 2016, 06:10:40 PM
Quote from: Jay on October 12, 2016, 06:07:17 PM
Quote from: PowerBug on October 12, 2016, 05:59:31 PM
But Jay, Lyons having less TOG might be a reflection of his poor fitness levels ;) :P
I think its more the fact that we rotated a lot of guys through the midfield last season and our forward line isn't an easy one to get a gig in!

Look at Kerridge and Matty Wright, both had career seasons once they got that increased opportunity. And Lyons is far better than both of them.
It might be, but it might also be the case that Lyons would get rotated less if his fitness was better ;) Maybe I'm wrong, I'm definitely taking the piss like everyone else (except most Crows fans) in this thread, but your assumption might be incorrect ;)
It might be. But yours almost definitely is :P I think given he's putting up really good numbers in 70% game time, going to 80% in a weaker team wouldn't be an issue at all. And even if you don't adjust for TOG, the point still stands. The numbers are close, and factoring in age they're pretty much equal. It's just that Gibbs is a big name player for a big Victorian club which is why there's even a discussion as to whether Lyons + pick 13 is enough.

Yes I know you were tacking the mick, but I wanted to get this point across anyway haha. Bryce Gibbs is a very good player, but he isn't Koutoufides in his prime :P and Carlton are going to waste Gibbs' prime on a bottom 4 team if they hang onto him.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Big Mac on October 12, 2016, 06:39:04 PM
Quote from: Purple 77 on October 12, 2016, 05:46:01 PM
Sigh. After being active for 4 straight years, I guess Melbourne were due for a quiet trade period  :-\

Still, I'm a sucker for more trade drama!

Could also take it as a sign that we have pretty much everything we need to challenge for a premiership  :P Just need to wait

Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: LF on October 12, 2016, 06:42:04 PM
Quote from: Big  Mac on October 12, 2016, 06:39:04 PM
Quote from: Purple 77 on October 12, 2016, 05:46:01 PM
Sigh. After being active for 4 straight years, I guess Melbourne were due for a quiet trade period  :-\

Still, I'm a sucker for more trade drama!

Could also take it as a sign that we have pretty much everything we need to challenge for a premiership  :P Just need to wait

I thought Dunn was going
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Grazz on October 12, 2016, 06:42:38 PM
Quote from: JBs-Hawks on October 12, 2016, 06:22:18 PM
Quote from: Grazz on October 12, 2016, 06:17:53 PM
Quote from: JBs-Hawks on October 12, 2016, 05:44:54 PM
Quote from: Grazz on October 12, 2016, 05:40:40 PM
Mitchell to the Hawks for pick 14 and the Blues want pick 13 and multiple players and a puppy etc etc for Gibbs bahahahahahah. Flower me.  :-\

Gibbs is contracted for 3 years.........

So flowering what, he wants out. Contracts mean sweet FA these days have for years all of a sudden their important again.

Quote from: JBs-Hawks on October 12, 2016, 05:58:52 PM
Quote from: Vinny on October 12, 2016, 05:56:00 PM
Quote from: JBs-Hawks on October 12, 2016, 05:44:54 PM
Quote from: Grazz on October 12, 2016, 05:40:40 PM
Mitchell to the Hawks for pick 14 and the Blues want pick 13 and multiple players and a puppy etc etc for Gibbs bahahahahahah. Flower me.  :-\

Gibbs is contracted for 3 years.........
Been said about a million times but crows fans don't understand...

We understand fine thanks mate, I think people are putting to much value in this 3 years left when it means jack shower, contracts haven't mattered for how long now all of a sudden they do, sheeeeesh.
He want's out whats so hard to understand. How the hell can Mitchell go to the Hawks for #14 and a couple of late picks yet Gibbs who is older is going to cost #13 and a some good players. It's a Crows thing I get it.

Because if Sydney dont trade Mitchell then he walks to the draft, if Carlton dont broker a trade for Gibbs then he still wears Blue next year!

He wont sit out like sooky McCarthy i bet he still loves the Blues he would just prefer a trade home.

I get that and I have no doubt he loves Carlton we've tried a few times to get him with no success.
The contract means plenty to the Blues I get that but it means nothing to us we're interested in the player who want's to come home. I just think the Blues are asking for to much to get it done. Let him stay in Vic doesn't bother me at all.
Keeping a player that want's to come home has never really been advantageous to anyone. People are freaking out because of 3 years left, nobody has broken a contract with 3 years left before plenty have done it with a little less time on contracts though so everyone's jumping up and down because of a extra year so what, I don't get it because if the AFL don't act it's going to become the new norm, hell it already is.

Quote from: Jay on October 12, 2016, 06:29:58 PM
Quote from: PowerBug on October 12, 2016, 06:10:40 PM
Quote from: Jay on October 12, 2016, 06:07:17 PM
Quote from: PowerBug on October 12, 2016, 05:59:31 PM
But Jay, Lyons having less TOG might be a reflection of his poor fitness levels ;) :P
I think its more the fact that we rotated a lot of guys through the midfield last season and our forward line isn't an easy one to get a gig in!

Look at Kerridge and Matty Wright, both had career seasons once they got that increased opportunity. And Lyons is far better than both of them.
It might be, but it might also be the case that Lyons would get rotated less if his fitness was better ;) Maybe I'm wrong, I'm definitely taking the piss like everyone else (except most Crows fans) in this thread, but your assumption might be incorrect ;)
It might be. But yours almost definitely is :P I think given he's putting up really good numbers in 70% game time, going to 80% in a weaker team wouldn't be an issue at all. And even if you don't adjust for TOG, the point still stands. The numbers are close, and factoring in age they're pretty much equal. It's just that Gibbs is a big name player for a big Victorian club which is why there's even a discussion as to whether Lyons + pick 13 is enough.

Yes I know you were tacking the mick, but I wanted to get this point across anyway haha. Bryce Gibbs is a very good player, but he isn't Koutoufides in his prime :P and Carlton are going to waste Gibbs' prime on a bottom 4 team if they hang onto him.

No worries PB happy to play along and take the piss to and I guess i'm in there with your comment "most Crows supporters" lol just not happy to be taken for a ride and robbed by the Blues is all.
IMO he's not worth everything the Blues are asking for at 28 contract or no contract.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Money Shot on October 12, 2016, 06:45:33 PM
Quote from: Jay on October 12, 2016, 06:29:58 PM
Quote from: PowerBug on October 12, 2016, 06:10:40 PM
Quote from: Jay on October 12, 2016, 06:07:17 PM
Quote from: PowerBug on October 12, 2016, 05:59:31 PM
But Jay, Lyons having less TOG might be a reflection of his poor fitness levels ;) :P
I think its more the fact that we rotated a lot of guys through the midfield last season and our forward line isn't an easy one to get a gig in!

Look at Kerridge and Matty Wright, both had career seasons once they got that increased opportunity. And Lyons is far better than both of them.
It might be, but it might also be the case that Lyons would get rotated less if his fitness was better ;) Maybe I'm wrong, I'm definitely taking the piss like everyone else (except most Crows fans) in this thread, but your assumption might be incorrect ;)
It might be. But yours almost definitely is :P I think given he's putting up really good numbers in 70% game time, going to 80% in a weaker team wouldn't be an issue at all. And even if you don't adjust for TOG, the point still stands. The numbers are close, and factoring in age they're pretty much equal. It's just that Gibbs is a big name player for a big Victorian club which is why there's even a discussion as to whether Lyons + pick 13 is enough.

Yes I know you were tacking the mick, but I wanted to get this point across anyway haha. Bryce Gibbs is a very good player, but he isn't Koutoufides in his prime :P and Carlton are going to waste Gibbs' prime on a bottom 4 team if they hang onto him.
From what the articles say Lyons doesn't want to be at Carlton.

Why don't you just give us pick 13 and next years first round pick as your premiership window is now and it would be a "waste" to get young talent in if they won't be in their prime in your premiership window ;)
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Vinny on October 12, 2016, 06:46:52 PM
Haha pretty simple, if Adelaide want him, they pay up for what SOS wants. If not, he stays!
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: TomK on October 12, 2016, 06:48:23 PM
Quote from: Money Shot on October 12, 2016, 06:45:33 PM
Quote from: Jay on October 12, 2016, 06:29:58 PM
Quote from: PowerBug on October 12, 2016, 06:10:40 PM
Quote from: Jay on October 12, 2016, 06:07:17 PM
Quote from: PowerBug on October 12, 2016, 05:59:31 PM
But Jay, Lyons having less TOG might be a reflection of his poor fitness levels ;) :P
I think its more the fact that we rotated a lot of guys through the midfield last season and our forward line isn't an easy one to get a gig in!

Look at Kerridge and Matty Wright, both had career seasons once they got that increased opportunity. And Lyons is far better than both of them.
It might be, but it might also be the case that Lyons would get rotated less if his fitness was better ;) Maybe I'm wrong, I'm definitely taking the piss like everyone else (except most Crows fans) in this thread, but your assumption might be incorrect ;)
It might be. But yours almost definitely is :P I think given he's putting up really good numbers in 70% game time, going to 80% in a weaker team wouldn't be an issue at all. And even if you don't adjust for TOG, the point still stands. The numbers are close, and factoring in age they're pretty much equal. It's just that Gibbs is a big name player for a big Victorian club which is why there's even a discussion as to whether Lyons + pick 13 is enough.

Yes I know you were tacking the mick, but I wanted to get this point across anyway haha. Bryce Gibbs is a very good player, but he isn't Koutoufides in his prime :P and Carlton are going to waste Gibbs' prime on a bottom 4 team if they hang onto him.
From what the articles say Lyons doesn't want to be at Carlton.

Why don't you just give us pick 13 and next years first round pick as your premiership window is now and it would be a "waste" to get young talent in if they won't be in their prime in your premiership window ;)
Because that's way overs
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Mr.Craig on October 12, 2016, 06:49:44 PM
19 trades in 2014.
34 trades in 2015.

I think we should run a pool to see how many in 2016.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Jay on October 12, 2016, 06:51:28 PM
Quote from: Vinny on October 12, 2016, 06:46:52 PM
Haha pretty simple, if Adelaide want him, they pay up for what SOS wants. If not, he stays!
Yep this is what it comes down to. We'll be fine Gibbs or no Gibbs, I don't think we need to be desperate. Young players will improve, and our record on first round picks is very good.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Grazz on October 12, 2016, 06:53:05 PM
Quote from: Money Shot on October 12, 2016, 06:45:33 PM
Quote from: Jay on October 12, 2016, 06:29:58 PM
Quote from: PowerBug on October 12, 2016, 06:10:40 PM
Quote from: Jay on October 12, 2016, 06:07:17 PM
Quote from: PowerBug on October 12, 2016, 05:59:31 PM
But Jay, Lyons having less TOG might be a reflection of his poor fitness levels ;) :P
I think its more the fact that we rotated a lot of guys through the midfield last season and our forward line isn't an easy one to get a gig in!

Look at Kerridge and Matty Wright, both had career seasons once they got that increased opportunity. And Lyons is far better than both of them.
It might be, but it might also be the case that Lyons would get rotated less if his fitness was better ;) Maybe I'm wrong, I'm definitely taking the piss like everyone else (except most Crows fans) in this thread, but your assumption might be incorrect ;)
It might be. But yours almost definitely is :P I think given he's putting up really good numbers in 70% game time, going to 80% in a weaker team wouldn't be an issue at all. And even if you don't adjust for TOG, the point still stands. The numbers are close, and factoring in age they're pretty much equal. It's just that Gibbs is a big name player for a big Victorian club which is why there's even a discussion as to whether Lyons + pick 13 is enough.

Yes I know you were tacking the mick, but I wanted to get this point across anyway haha. Bryce Gibbs is a very good player, but he isn't Koutoufides in his prime :P and Carlton are going to waste Gibbs' prime on a bottom 4 team if they hang onto him.
From what the articles say Lyons doesn't want to be at Carlton.

Why don't you just give us pick 13 and next years first round pick as your premiership window is now and it would be a "waste" to get young talent in if they won't be in their prime in your premiership window ;)

Would be more than happy to do that.

Quote from: Vinny on October 12, 2016, 06:46:52 PM
Haha pretty simple, if Adelaide want him, they pay up for what SOS wants. If not, he stays!

Yes we'd like to have him who wouldn't but not for what their asking for imo.
SOS will stop packing the hooker and eventually come down off cloud nine and a deal will get done, almost always does when a player wan't to return home.

Quote from: Jay on October 12, 2016, 06:51:28 PM
Quote from: Vinny on October 12, 2016, 06:46:52 PM
Haha pretty simple, if Adelaide want him, they pay up for what SOS wants. If not, he stays!
Yep this is what it comes down to. We'll be fine Gibbs or no Gibbs, I don't think we need to be desperate. Young players will improve, and our record on first round picks is very good.

Jay you are the voice of reason, well said mate.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: TomK on October 12, 2016, 06:54:41 PM
Quote from: Vinny on October 12, 2016, 06:46:52 PM
Haha pretty simple, if Adelaide want him, they pay up for what SOS wants. If not, he stays!
Lol not really. He's already asked for Lever, Crouch x2, Cameron, McGovern along with pick 13 and we've said no everytime and rightly so. Don't forget they're all contracted, we all know how much that means, plus they don't want to go to Carlton either. We will get Gibbs for pick 13 and whatever else, probably a second rounder we get for Lyons.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Grazz on October 12, 2016, 06:57:04 PM
Quote from: TomK on October 12, 2016, 06:54:41 PM
Quote from: Vinny on October 12, 2016, 06:46:52 PM
Haha pretty simple, if Adelaide want him, they pay up for what SOS wants. If not, he stays!
Lol not really. He's already asked for Lever, Crouch x2, Cameron, McGovern along with pick 13 and we've said no everytime and rightly so. Don't forget they're all contracted, we all know how much that means, plus they don't want to go to Carlton either. We will get Gibbs for pick 13 and whatever else, probably a second rounder we get for Lyons.

Exactly.
Crows against the world haha bring it on.  :P
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: lachie_001 on October 12, 2016, 06:57:50 PM
Quote from: Vinny on October 12, 2016, 06:46:52 PM
Haha pretty simple, if Adelaide want him, they pay up for what SOS wants. If not, he stays!
Then he stays because in our opinion pick 13 and Lyons is already overs. Mitchell is worth 14, and is younger and a better player than Gibbs, so Gibbs should really be worth pick 19, if he was out of contract. But he is contracted so pick 13 alone should balance that out. But we aren't going to be held to ransom by Carlton.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: elephants on October 12, 2016, 06:59:14 PM
Don't stop.

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Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Vinny on October 12, 2016, 07:00:04 PM
Quote from: TomK on October 12, 2016, 06:54:41 PM
Quote from: Vinny on October 12, 2016, 06:46:52 PM
Haha pretty simple, if Adelaide want him, they pay up for what SOS wants. If not, he stays!
Lol not really. He's already asked for Lever, Crouch x2, Cameron, McGovern along with pick 13 and we've said no everytime and rightly so. Don't forget they're all contracted, we all know how much that means, plus they don't want to go to Carlton either. We will get Gibbs for pick 13 and whatever else, probably a second rounder we get for Lyons.
Apparently, Adelaide offered Pick 13 and Cameron and we said no and asked for Lever. SOS walked out of the room laughing after a bit more discussion. Not sure how much truth in that.

To be honest, I'd be happy for him to stay but like I said we are completely entitled to play hard ball.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: GoLions on October 12, 2016, 07:01:08 PM
Quote from: elephants on October 12, 2016, 06:59:14 PM
Don't stop.

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Not until I've gotten enough.

Also, Rock With You just came up on my spotify, oh what could have been...
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: fanTCfool on October 12, 2016, 07:03:29 PM
Hawthorn get Tom Mitchell for Pick 14 and chips, want Pick 12 from WCE for Sam Mitchell  ::)
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: shaker on October 12, 2016, 07:03:53 PM
Quote from: Vinny on October 12, 2016, 06:46:52 PM
Haha pretty simple, if Adelaide want him, they pay up for what SOS wants. If not, he stays!

Maybe but unhappy wife = unhappy player he will get to the Crows he does not want to be there for 3 more years the Blues will take pick 13 and maybe an exchange of picks or a spud
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: TomK on October 12, 2016, 07:04:27 PM
Quote from: Vinny on October 12, 2016, 07:00:04 PM
Quote from: TomK on October 12, 2016, 06:54:41 PM
Quote from: Vinny on October 12, 2016, 06:46:52 PM
Haha pretty simple, if Adelaide want him, they pay up for what SOS wants. If not, he stays!
Lol not really. He's already asked for Lever, Crouch x2, Cameron, McGovern along with pick 13 and we've said no everytime and rightly so. Don't forget they're all contracted, we all know how much that means, plus they don't want to go to Carlton either. We will get Gibbs for pick 13 and whatever else, probably a second rounder we get for Lyons.
Apparently, Adelaide offered Pick 13 and Cameron and we said no and asked for Lever. SOS walked out of the room laughing after a bit more discussion. Not sure how much truth in that.

To be honest, I'd be happy for him to stay but like I said we are completely entitled to play hard ball.
That's interesting, I hope that's not true. Charlie's manager said he will be here next year so I'm ruling him out anyway.

Yeah of course Carlton would be playing hardball, unprofessional not to but this reminds me of the Yarran situation last year where you eventually caved and took pick 19.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: shaker on October 12, 2016, 07:05:22 PM
Quote from: fanTCfool on October 12, 2016, 07:03:29 PM
Hawthorn get Tom Mitchell for Pick 14 and chips, want Pick 12 from WCE for Sam Mitchell  ::)

They said on tonights news a 3rd or 4th round will do it
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Jay on October 12, 2016, 07:06:45 PM
Quote from: Jay on October 12, 2016, 06:51:28 PM
Quote from: Vinny on October 12, 2016, 06:46:52 PM
Haha pretty simple, if Adelaide want him, they pay up for what SOS wants. If not, he stays!
Yep this is what it comes down to. We'll be fine Gibbs or no Gibbs, I don't think we need to be desperate. Young players will improve, and our record on first round picks is very good.
Although, I think we can really want Gibbs, but not want to pay up what SOS is asking. It's not a situation where we like the player so will give up our whole side to get him. He's a player we want, and hopefully can work out a fair deal to get him to the club.

Did I hear Lever's name come up? I wouldn't do Lever for Gibbs, Cripps, Weits and Doch :P
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: fanTCfool on October 12, 2016, 07:09:48 PM
I think there's a better chance of SOS getting a deal done for a new, Victorian Mrs. Gibbs at this stage  :P
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: JBs-Hawks on October 12, 2016, 07:12:07 PM
Quote from: lachie_001 on October 12, 2016, 06:57:50 PM
Quote from: Vinny on October 12, 2016, 06:46:52 PM
Haha pretty simple, if Adelaide want him, they pay up for what SOS wants. If not, he stays!
Then he stays because in our opinion pick 13 and Lyons is already overs. Mitchell is worth 14, and is younger and a better player than Gibbs, so Gibbs should really be worth pick 19, if he was out of contract. But he is contracted so pick 13 alone should balance that out. But we aren't going to be held to ransom by Carlton.

You're obviously a member of the crows coaching staff then because what you say is what will happen  ::) ::)
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: powersuperkents on October 12, 2016, 07:19:32 PM
Quote from: Gigantor on October 12, 2016, 06:12:59 PM
Collingwood FC âœ" @CollingwoodFC
Another new Magpie. Chris Mayne crosses the country to become a Pie in 2017. Welcome aboard Chris! #sidebyside
2:05 PM - 12 Oct 2016
It looks as though Collingwood want to create a culture of inaccurate set shots (Mayne to be Cloke's successor in missing goals)  :P
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: powersuperkents on October 12, 2016, 07:23:26 PM
Also, is it just me, or was the compensation for Mayne a little overs? I don't know how much Collingwood is paying him (I assume a lot), however, besides 2013 I would say Vickery > Mayne (I know that might be a controversial statement)
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Ricochet on October 12, 2016, 07:24:30 PM
Quote from: powersuperkents on October 12, 2016, 07:23:26 PM
Also, is it just me, or was the compensation for Mayne a little overs? I don't know how much Collingwood is paying him (I assume a lot), however, besides 2013 I would say Vickery > Mayne (I know that might be a controversial statement)
It is. But it's got flower all to do with ability
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: powersuperkents on October 12, 2016, 07:24:36 PM
Actually, reconsidered that point - he's been a consistent starter for the Dockers and a required player since 2010 so I guess a second rounder is fair
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Grazz on October 12, 2016, 07:25:10 PM
Quote from: lachie_001 on October 12, 2016, 06:57:50 PM
Quote from: Vinny on October 12, 2016, 06:46:52 PM
Haha pretty simple, if Adelaide want him, they pay up for what SOS wants. If not, he stays!
Then he stays because in our opinion pick 13 and Lyons is already overs. Mitchell is worth 14, and is younger and a better player than Gibbs, so Gibbs should really be worth pick 19, if he was out of contract. But he is contracted so pick 13 alone should balance that out. But we aren't going to be held to ransom by Carlton.

+1 flower SOS and his ridiculous demands.  :P



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The there's SOS
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Grazz on October 12, 2016, 07:32:05 PM
Quote from: JBs-Hawks on October 12, 2016, 07:12:07 PM
Quote from: lachie_001 on October 12, 2016, 06:57:50 PM
Quote from: Vinny on October 12, 2016, 06:46:52 PM
Haha pretty simple, if Adelaide want him, they pay up for what SOS wants. If not, he stays!
Then he stays because in our opinion pick 13 and Lyons is already overs. Mitchell is worth 14, and is younger and a better player than Gibbs, so Gibbs should really be worth pick 19, if he was out of contract. But he is contracted so pick 13 alone should balance that out. But we aren't going to be held to ransom by Carlton.

You're obviously a member of the crows coaching staff then because what you say is what will happen  ::) ::)

He's having an opinion just like you mate, he's just correct that's all.  :P

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Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: jvalles69 on October 12, 2016, 07:32:43 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on October 12, 2016, 07:24:30 PM
Quote from: powersuperkents on October 12, 2016, 07:23:26 PM
Also, is it just me, or was the compensation for Mayne a little overs? I don't know how much Collingwood is paying him (I assume a lot), however, besides 2013 I would say Vickery > Mayne (I know that might be a controversial statement)
It is. But it's got flower all to do with ability

Utter bullshower, we get compo pick 39 for Scott Selwood and Mayne gets pick 23?!?  What a farce.  ::)
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: shaker on October 12, 2016, 07:36:56 PM
Quote from: jvalles69 on October 12, 2016, 07:32:43 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on October 12, 2016, 07:24:30 PM
Quote from: powersuperkents on October 12, 2016, 07:23:26 PM
Also, is it just me, or was the compensation for Mayne a little overs? I don't know how much Collingwood is paying him (I assume a lot), however, besides 2013 I would say Vickery > Mayne (I know that might be a controversial statement)
It is. But it's got flower all to do with ability

Utter bullshower, we get compo pick 39 for Scott Selwood and Mayne gets pick 23?!?  What a farce.  ::)
Yeah does anyone know how they work these out I was not expecting 26 for Vickery ?
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Grazz on October 12, 2016, 07:37:28 PM
If the Hawks seriously want 12 and 23 for Mitchell they must now be sharing whatever SOS is smoking.  :o
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: jvalles69 on October 12, 2016, 07:39:59 PM
Quote from: Grazz on October 12, 2016, 07:37:28 PM
If the Hawks seriously want 12 and 23 for Mitchell they must now be sharing whatever SOS is smoking.  :o

They're being cheeky flowers, no way our club gives up anything that high for him!  Ridiculous!
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: RaisyDaisy on October 12, 2016, 07:40:11 PM
Quote from: Grazz on October 12, 2016, 07:37:28 PM
If the Hawks seriously want 12 and 23 for Mitchell they must now be sharing whatever SOS is smoking.  :o

Who said they did?

Wce have already confirmed our first two picks are off the table

3RD rounder should be enough
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: GoLions on October 12, 2016, 07:41:01 PM
Quote from: Grazz on October 12, 2016, 07:37:28 PM
If the Hawks seriously want 12 and 23 for Mitchell they must now be sharing whatever SOS is smoking.  :o
They'd be getting 23 for Hill...? Not Mitchell.

Agree though, wouldn't get 12 for Mitchell anyway.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Levi434 on October 12, 2016, 07:41:14 PM
Mayne is the final piece in Collingwood's Premiership puzzle.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: shaker on October 12, 2016, 07:41:52 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on October 12, 2016, 07:40:11 PM
Quote from: Grazz on October 12, 2016, 07:37:28 PM
If the Hawks seriously want 12 and 23 for Mitchell they must now be sharing whatever SOS is smoking.  :o

Who said they did?

Wce have already confirmed our first two picks are off the table

3RD rounder should be enough

Like I said earlier on the news they said a 3rd or 4th round
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Levi434 on October 12, 2016, 07:46:09 PM
52 or 70 for Mitchell seems a little rough.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Bill Manspeaker on October 12, 2016, 07:49:21 PM
agree it's way overs but I think its got to do with how much the club they're going to is willing to pay

I don't really understand it nor can I be flowered reading the rules on it but I think that's how it works

Vickery and Mayne I'm talking about
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: shaker on October 12, 2016, 07:49:43 PM
Quote from: Levi434 on October 12, 2016, 07:46:09 PM
52 or 70 for Mitchell seems a little rough.

Clarkson is the person responsible for the trade not Mitchell he is looking after his mate why would he do that and then demand a high draft pick ? and they need salary space
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Bill Manspeaker on October 12, 2016, 07:52:15 PM
Quote from: shaker on October 12, 2016, 07:49:43 PM
Quote from: Levi434 on October 12, 2016, 07:46:09 PM
52 or 70 for Mitchell seems a little rough.

Clarkson is the person responsible for the trade not Mitchell he is looking after his mate why would he do that and then demand a high draft pick ?

and it's not like he's going there for long... he'll play 1 or 2 seasons then probably retire

it's all they talked about on trade radio and now on AFL Tonight they start off talking about it

I don't get the fuss. it's not like when Ablett left, or Buddy, he's going there for 1 or 2 years?? why is this such a big thing?
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: tbagrocks on October 12, 2016, 07:54:53 PM
Quote from: Nige on October 12, 2016, 03:33:44 PM
Tyrone Vickery and Tom Mitchell are final pieces of Hawthorn's next threepeat puzzle.
How come the #Cheats at Hawthorn get away with #14 for T Mitch, put it in perspective Brisbane gave up #5 - #25 and Crips to get injury prone Beams from Collingwood

Adelaide cant get #13 done but, surely another second rounder or talent like a Lyons isn't good enough?

Collingwood and Hawthorn, especially have a knack of raping everyone but teams interstate forced to pay much more!
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Grazz on October 12, 2016, 08:01:25 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on October 12, 2016, 07:40:11 PM
Quote from: Grazz on October 12, 2016, 07:37:28 PM
If the Hawks seriously want 12 and 23 for Mitchell they must now be sharing whatever SOS is smoking.  :o

Who said they did?

Wce have already confirmed our first two picks are off the table

3RD rounder should be enough

"Fans" should of been inserted after Hawks, apologies for that error.
A couple were tweeting about it asking for pick 12 and 23 for Mitchell  5x B&F blah blah AA blah blah no mention of his age but.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Scrads on October 12, 2016, 08:07:31 PM
From a Hawks fan, I feel like if we get pick 34 it's a good win for us, but well probs end up with 52 which isn't overly unfair.

Don't think anyone seriously thinks there's any chance of even talking about pick 12.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: shaker on October 12, 2016, 08:14:31 PM
Quote from: Scrads on October 12, 2016, 08:07:31 PM
From a Hawks fan, I feel like if we get pick 34 it's a good win for us, but well probs end up with 52 which isn't overly unfair.

Don't think anyone seriously thinks there's any chance of even talking about pick 12.

You can't be to unhappy mate you have swapped one Mitchell for another Mitchell who is almost a clone of Sam only young , somehow the Hawks just keep kicking goals and we are not talking about Gibbs  :P
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Grazz on October 12, 2016, 08:22:07 PM
Quote from: Scrads on October 12, 2016, 08:07:31 PM
From a Hawks fan, I feel like if we get pick 34 it's a good win for us, but well probs end up with 52 which isn't overly unfair.

Don't think anyone seriously thinks there's any chance of even talking about pick 12.

That was Hawks fans on twitter not the Hawks. That was my mistake not including that.
34 is a decent outcome for your mob, most would be content with that once the shock of Sam
not being there settles. Shocked me when I saw it first thrown up on twitter, 1st thought was surely not.
Something big had to happen though if you were going to be successful with the players you were wanting to bring in.
Take my hat off to all involved, they just keep getting it done with minimum fuss, very professional outfit.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Vinny on October 12, 2016, 08:29:46 PM
I might be one of the only few that want the Hawks to stay relevant forever, they're just too good at what they do and people are mad about it. Nothing but respect I reckon!
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Grazz on October 12, 2016, 08:32:14 PM
Quote from: Vinny on October 12, 2016, 08:29:46 PM
I might be one of the only few that want the Hawks to stay relevant forever, they're just too good at what they do and people are mad about it. Nothing but respect I reckon!

The way they go about demands respect, much like the Swans do. You have to respect them regardless of how you feel about them.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: powersuperkents on October 12, 2016, 08:41:37 PM
Quote from: tbagrocks on October 12, 2016, 07:54:53 PM
Quote from: Nige on October 12, 2016, 03:33:44 PM
Tyrone Vickery and Tom Mitchell are final pieces of Hawthorn's next threepeat puzzle.
How come the #Cheats at Hawthorn get away with #14 for T Mitch, put it in perspective Brisbane gave up #5 - #25 and Crips to get injury prone Beams from Collingwood

Adelaide cant get #13 done but, surely another second rounder or talent like a Lyons isn't good enough?

Collingwood and Hawthorn, especially have a knack of raping everyone but teams interstate forced to pay much more!
Sydney aren't a side that really cares about personnel (excluding Tippett & Buddy), they develop their own talent and I wouldn't be surprised if they used pick 13 and developed a player greater than or equal to T Mitch.

Their success rests on the organisational structure & game plan that Paul Roos established - why they can sustain such long periods of success while other clubs cannot and why they never need to rebuild (2009 was the only time they missed finals since Paul Roos took over as head coach). It's also why a lot of players are useless when they leave (e.g. Jetta & Malceski) because the reason for their elite status was Sydney's successful game plan.

I think Sydney just want something to work with and a reasonable return on investment tbh - they won't be fussed about Mitchell leaving, they have plenty of young talent to step in

Note; 'Playing style' is probably a better word than 'game plan'

Plus I agree that pick 13 and a player should be enough for Gibbs. However, Carlton have all the leverage in this situation (3 years to run on his contract)
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Grazz on October 12, 2016, 08:45:43 PM
Quote from: tbagrocks on October 12, 2016, 07:54:53 PM
Quote from: Nige on October 12, 2016, 03:33:44 PM
Tyrone Vickery and Tom Mitchell are final pieces of Hawthorn's next threepeat puzzle.
How come the #Cheats at Hawthorn get away with #14 for T Mitch, put it in perspective Brisbane gave up #5 - #25 and Crips to get injury prone Beams from Collingwood

Adelaide cant get #13 done but, surely another second rounder or talent like a Lyons isn't good enough?

Collingwood and Hawthorn, especially have a knack of raping everyone but teams interstate forced to pay much more!

Not keen on the 'R" word mate but tbh it's two highly respected clubs going about it professionally and getting it done, hard to knock that.
Almost every footy journalist and commentator out there with alot more credibility than any of us here agree's #13 should be enough for Gibbs to get it done but somehow we Crows fans here are underrating him terribly with our offers.
Have kept my mouth shut for a long long time here but there seems to be an awful lot of hate for anything Crows here at FF at times that I don't understand at all.

Quote from: powersuperkents on October 12, 2016, 08:41:37 PM
Quote from: tbagrocks on October 12, 2016, 07:54:53 PM
Quote from: Nige on October 12, 2016, 03:33:44 PM
Tyrone Vickery and Tom Mitchell are final pieces of Hawthorn's next threepeat puzzle.
How come the #Cheats at Hawthorn get away with #14 for T Mitch, put it in perspective Brisbane gave up #5 - #25 and Crips to get injury prone Beams from Collingwood

Adelaide cant get #13 done but, surely another second rounder or talent like a Lyons isn't good enough?

Collingwood and Hawthorn, especially have a knack of raping everyone but teams interstate forced to pay much more!
Sydney aren't a side that really cares about personnel (excluding Tippett & Buddy), they develop their own talent and I wouldn't be surprised if they used pick 13 and developed a player greater than or equal to T Mitch.

Their success rests on the organisational structure & game plan that Paul Roos established - why they can sustain such long periods of success while other clubs cannot and why they never need to rebuild (2009 was the only time they missed finals since Paul Roos took over as head coach). It's also why a lot of players are useless when they leave (e.g. Jetta & Malceski) because the reason for their elite status was Sydney's successful game plan.

I think Sydney just want something to work with and a reasonable return on investment tbh - they won't be fussed about Mitchell leaving, they have plenty of young talent to step in

Plus I agree that pick 13 and a player should be enough for Gibbs. However, Carlton have all the leverage in this situation (3 years to run on his contract)

Agree, said it before a very classy outfit are the Swans.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: iZander on October 12, 2016, 08:46:43 PM
Quote from: powersuperkents on October 12, 2016, 08:41:37 PM
Quote from: tbagrocks on October 12, 2016, 07:54:53 PM
Quote from: Nige on October 12, 2016, 03:33:44 PM
Tyrone Vickery and Tom Mitchell are final pieces of Hawthorn's next threepeat puzzle.
How come the #Cheats at Hawthorn get away with #14 for T Mitch, put it in perspective Brisbane gave up #5 - #25 and Crips to get injury prone Beams from Collingwood

Adelaide cant get #13 done but, surely another second rounder or talent like a Lyons isn't good enough?

Collingwood and Hawthorn, especially have a knack of raping everyone but teams interstate forced to pay much more!
I wouldn't be surprised if they used pick 13 and developed a player greater than or equal to T Mitch.
haha :P
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: RaisyDaisy on October 12, 2016, 08:47:18 PM
Yeah the Sam Mitchell scenario is different

We haven't poached him, and it's not long term. He clearly has aspirations of coaching and Simmo is the obvious choice as referred by Clarko, so if anything Hawks supporters should be glad to see how well they are looking after one of their greats, preparing him for life after he retires

Everyone involved benefits. We get a gun mid to help our side for 12-24 months on the field and then another 2 years as coach while Hawthorn get to free up the necessary space to land Titch and JOM, and on top of that I wouldn't be surprised if this a long term plan so that once Smitch has done his apprenticeship he could quite possibly come back and take over from Clarko and be the next Hawks coach in 5+ years time

This isn't about getting max market value for Smitch, so a 3rd round pick benefits everyone involved
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: RaisyDaisy on October 12, 2016, 08:49:08 PM
As for Titch moving for 14 - you can't compare that to other players who have gone for earlier/later picks!

Two clubs get together, negotiate and agree. Seems like the Hawks and Swans have a good working relationship which can only be good for them moving to the future
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Ricochet on October 12, 2016, 08:49:57 PM
Do hawks actually need to free up cash space? And will Mitchell leaving free up that much??
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: iZander on October 12, 2016, 08:51:42 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on October 12, 2016, 08:47:18 PM
Yeah the Sam Mitchell scenario is different

We haven't poached him, and it's not long term. He clearly has aspirations of coaching and Simmo is the obvious choice as referred by Clarko, so if anything Hawks supporters should be glad to see how well they are looking after one of their greats, preparing him for life after he retires

Everyone involved benefits. We get a gun mid to help our side for 12-24 months on the field and then another 2 years as coach while Hawthorn get to free up the necessary space to land Titch and JOM, and on top of that I wouldn't be surprised if this a long term plan so that once Smitch has done his apprenticeship he could quite possibly come back and take over from Clarko and be the next Hawks coach in 5+ years time

This isn't about getting max market value for Smitch, so a 3rd round pick benefits everyone involved
I dont get why Mitchell is needed with Priddis and Shuey already there? And lets be honest, without Nic Nat West coast probably arent the threat they are with him :P

Development of the youngsters is probably the up side, and for a 3rd rounder i guess thats pretty good :P
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: RaisyDaisy on October 12, 2016, 08:55:07 PM
Quote from: iZander on October 12, 2016, 08:51:42 PM
I dont get why Mitchell is needed with Priddis and Shuey already there? And lets be honest, without Nic Nat West coast probably arent the threat they are with him :P

Development of the youngsters is probably the up side, and for a 3rd rounder i guess thats pretty good :P

It's all about getting his family settled in Perth (Kids start school next year) and then preparing to coach after another year or two on the field.

He was going to come over last year, but who could blame him for delaying it 12 months when a 4 peat was a possibility

Quote from: Ricochet on October 12, 2016, 08:49:57 PM
Do hawks actually need to free up cash space? And will Mitchell leaving free up that much??

Dunno man, but Vickery is getting 500k so have to assume Titch and JOM will get even more, so that's a fair chunk on top of all their existing players getting paid

Burgoyne had to take a pay cut to play on, so it seems the cap is getting tight to squeeze the new recruits all in
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Rusty00 on October 12, 2016, 09:08:37 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on October 12, 2016, 08:49:57 PM
Do hawks actually need to free up cash space? And will Mitchell leaving free up that much??
That was my first thought as I thought he'd be on the veterans list. I'm guessing it's more complicated than that though. Maybe some of the existing guys have some back ended contracts coming up.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Rusty00 on October 12, 2016, 09:10:45 PM
Quote from: Big  Mac on October 12, 2016, 06:39:04 PM
Quote from: Purple 77 on October 12, 2016, 05:46:01 PM
Sigh. After being active for 4 straight years, I guess Melbourne were due for a quiet trade period  :-\

Still, I'm a sucker for more trade drama!

Could also take it as a sign that we have pretty much everything we need to challenge for a premiership  :P Just need to wait
There must be a missing piece to the premiership puzzle though? Everyone has a missing piece. What about Gibbs?
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: jvalles69 on October 12, 2016, 09:12:52 PM
When does free agency end, I'm getting sick of it already lol, so many anti climaxes bound to happen.  This thread is almost 400 pages long, bet there is less than a pages worth of trades actually completed!  :P
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Grazz on October 12, 2016, 09:19:27 PM
Quote from: jvalles69 on October 12, 2016, 09:12:52 PM
When does free agency end, I'm getting sick of it already lol, so many anti climaxes bound to happen.  This thread is almost 400 pages long, bet there is less than a pages worth of trades actually completed!  :P

It's the same every year lol.
Hopes built up then crushed, we love to dissect it all and breaks up the boredom.
It's a crazy time.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Football Factory on October 12, 2016, 09:29:47 PM
Just looked through 15 pages of Gibbs discussion  (http://tse1.mm.bing.net/th?id=OIP.Mc2815fbb6ed010612fd1677b5514abe0H0&w=157&h=108&c=8&rs=1&qlt=90&pid=3.1&rm=2)
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: GoLions on October 12, 2016, 09:33:05 PM
Quote from: Grazz on October 12, 2016, 09:19:27 PM
Quote from: jvalles69 on October 12, 2016, 09:12:52 PM
When does free agency end, I'm getting sick of it already lol, so many anti climaxes bound to happen.  This thread is almost 400 pages long, bet there is less than a pages worth of trades actually completed!  :P

It's the same every year lol.
Hopes built up then crushed, we love to dissect it all and breaks up the boredom.
It's a crazy time.
To be fair, this started in 2014 aha
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: RiOtChEsS on October 12, 2016, 09:34:24 PM
Quote from: Jay on October 12, 2016, 05:38:09 PM
Quote from: Money Shot on October 12, 2016, 03:29:11 PM
Adelaide aren't giving up Ellis Yolmen or Lyons for you know who ;)

And people like Cameron, McGovern and the crouch brothers aren't going anywhere!

dont have any idea on how this is going to get done ::)
I'd say we'd be willing to part with an Ellis Yolmen or Lyons + a pick. But would be shocked if Brad Crouch or Cameron was traded. Basically because they'd have to want to leave - which I don't see as likely.

Let's use stats to avoid the Crows supporters who wouldn't give up a half eaten Mars bar for Gibbs, and avoid the Carlton supporters who have mistaken Gibbs for Koutoufides the last 5 years. I've scaled the numbers to give Lyons the same TOG% as Gibbs.

Lyons: 24.7 disposals, 3.8 marks, 0.9 goals, 5.4 tackles, 4.3 I50s, 1 goal assist, 11.9 contested, 13.2 uncontested, 67.6 efficiency, 2.5 clangers, 4.8 clearances

Gibbs: 26.8 disaposals, 3.5 marks, 0.8 goals, 5.2 tackles, 4.5 I50s, 0.7 assists, 9.7 contested, 17 uncontested, 69.8 efficiency, 2.9 clangers, 4.7 clerances.

So those are the difference in numbers, seem pretty similar to me. Oh and Lyons is 4 years younger. Does pick 13 bridge the 'gap' between the two players? Of course it does, in fact it is probably far too much. Keep in mind that it was a career best year for Gibbs, whereas really it was Lyons' first crack getting a consistent game. If Carlton want anything more then tell them to get stuffed and enjoy being bottom 6 for the duration of Gibbs' prime, Lyons will probably be better than Gibbs in a couple of seasons anyway. Yes I'd like this deal to happen to really have a crack at a flag during the prime of Sloane, Tex etc. but if it costs more than Lyons and a first round pick, it would just be silly to damage our future that much when if you look at the numbers, Lyons for Gibbs is probably fair straight swap when you factor in age anyway.
Lyons sample size is a half eaten mars bar :P
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: kilbluff1985 on October 12, 2016, 09:38:34 PM
Tom Browne ‏@TomBrowne7  16m
Just to reiterate, as I reported on #7NewsMelb last night, Paddy Ryder wants a trade to @brisbanelions . Shapes as significant trade story
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Jay on October 12, 2016, 09:40:26 PM
Has someone got any thoughts on the Gibbs deal? Haven't seen much discussion on it, but I feel like it could be a very interesting situation because I heard that he is still contracted. I was thinking that perhaps Jarryd Lyons might be involved! :o
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Nige on October 12, 2016, 09:41:49 PM
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on October 12, 2016, 09:38:34 PM
Tom Browne ‏@TomBrowne7  16m
Just to reiterate, as I reported on #7NewsMelb last night, Paddy Ryder wants a trade to @brisbanelions . Shapes as significant trade story
Huge if true.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: GoLions on October 12, 2016, 09:41:54 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on September 01, 2014, 02:44:32 PM
Thought I'd start something up because a few have popped up today.

Interesting one about Paddy Ryder

Tom Browne ‏@TomBrowne7  16m
Just to reiterate, as I reported on #7NewsMelb last night, Paddy Ryder wants a trade to @brisbanelions . Shapes as significant trade story

Quote from: kilbluff1985 on October 12, 2016, 09:38:34 PM
Tom Browne ‏@TomBrowne7  16m
Just to reiterate, as I reported on #7NewsMelb last night, Paddy Ryder wants a trade to @brisbanelions . Shapes as significant trade story
2nd time's a charm
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: RaisyDaisy on October 12, 2016, 09:42:15 PM
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on October 12, 2016, 09:38:34 PM
Tom Browne ‏@TomBrowne7  16m
Just to reiterate, as I reported on #7NewsMelb last night, Paddy Ryder wants a trade to @brisbanelions . Shapes as significant trade story

You making stuff up KB? Can't see that on his twitter

Sounds like absolute BS  :-X
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: RiOtChEsS on October 12, 2016, 09:43:04 PM
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on October 12, 2016, 09:38:34 PM
Tom Browne ‏@TomBrowne7  16m
Just to reiterate, as I reported on #7NewsMelb last night, Paddy Ryder wants a trade to @brisbanelions . Shapes as significant trade story
w0w :o
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: kilbluff1985 on October 12, 2016, 09:43:31 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on September 01, 2014, 02:44:32 PM
Thought I'd start something up because a few have popped up today.

Interesting one about Paddy Ryder

Tom Browne ‏@TomBrowne7  16m
Just to reiterate, as I reported on #7NewsMelb last night, Paddy Ryder wants a trade to @brisbanelions . Shapes as significant trade story

lul
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: RaisyDaisy on October 12, 2016, 09:44:07 PM
LOL GL  ;D
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: RiOtChEsS on October 12, 2016, 09:44:31 PM
Quote from: Jay on October 12, 2016, 09:40:26 PM
Has someone got any thoughts on the Gibbs deal? Haven't seen much discussion on it, but I feel like it could be a very interesting situation because I heard that he is still contracted. I was thinking that perhaps Jarryd Lyons might be involved! :o
this is news to me :D
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: kilbluff1985 on October 12, 2016, 09:45:01 PM
i'm shocked RiOtChEsS fell for it it was from his post that started the thread
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Mat0369 on October 12, 2016, 09:46:43 PM
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on October 12, 2016, 09:45:01 PM
i'm shocked RiOtChEsS fell for it it was from his post that started the thread

Go double check that  :P
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Football Factory on October 12, 2016, 09:47:39 PM
Quote from: RiOtChEsS on October 12, 2016, 09:44:31 PM
Quote from: Jay on October 12, 2016, 09:40:26 PM
Has someone got any thoughts on the Gibbs deal? Haven't seen much discussion on it, but I feel like it could be a very interesting situation because I heard that he is still contracted. I was thinking that perhaps Jarryd Lyons might be involved! :o
this is news to me :D

(http://tse1.mm.bing.net/th?id=OIP.M416c37c4b5af3c1044ea49b5323fee5eo0&w=95&h=100&c=8&rs=1&qlt=90&pid=3.1&rm=2)
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: kilbluff1985 on October 12, 2016, 09:48:11 PM
close enough
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Rusty00 on October 12, 2016, 09:50:14 PM
One of the mods should change Gibbs to another word under the swear filter ;)
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Bill Manspeaker on October 12, 2016, 09:50:56 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on October 12, 2016, 09:44:07 PM
LOL GL  ;D
(https://media.makeameme.org/created/gay-lord-is.jpg)
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Grazz on October 12, 2016, 09:51:26 PM
Quote from: Football Factory on October 12, 2016, 09:29:47 PM
Just looked through 15 pages of Gibbs discussion  (http://tse1.mm.bing.net/th?id=OIP.Mc2815fbb6ed010612fd1677b5514abe0H0&w=157&h=108&c=8&rs=1&qlt=90&pid=3.1&rm=2)

Was it as good for you. (http://i1143.photobucket.com/albums/n624/Grazz64/sleeping.gif) (http://s1143.photobucket.com/user/Grazz64/media/sleeping.gif.html)
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Nige on October 12, 2016, 09:51:30 PM
Quote from: Rusty00 on October 12, 2016, 09:50:14 PM
One of the mods should change Gibbs to another word under the swear filter ;)
I'll message Bunny on Facebook and see if he can.  ;D
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Football Factory on October 12, 2016, 10:05:25 PM
Quote from: Grazz on October 12, 2016, 09:51:26 PM
Quote from: Football Factory on October 12, 2016, 09:29:47 PM
Just looked through 15 pages of Softie discussion  (http://tse1.mm.bing.net/th?id=OIP.Mc2815fbb6ed010612fd1677b5514abe0H0&w=157&h=108&c=8&rs=1&qlt=90&pid=3.1&rm=2)

Was it as good for you. (http://i1143.photobucket.com/albums/n624/Grazz64/sleeping.gif) (http://s1143.photobucket.com/user/Grazz64/media/sleeping.gif.html)

(http://tse1.mm.bing.net/th?&id=OIP.M7237d68ad69f7fd6889c9192adf257a3o0&w=250&h=188&c=0&pid=1.9&rs=0&p=0&r=0)
Before                            After
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Grazz on October 12, 2016, 10:09:31 PM
Yep, that's it alright. :P
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Torpedo10 on October 12, 2016, 10:09:52 PM
Gibbs is ready to go to Adelaide.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Grazz on October 12, 2016, 10:14:59 PM
Quote from: Torpedo10 on October 12, 2016, 10:09:52 PM
Softie is ready to go to Adelaide.

Don't tell me you organised the name change that quick.  :o
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: PowerBug on October 12, 2016, 10:16:33 PM
Softie


WHAT! ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Grazz on October 12, 2016, 11:03:45 PM
Bit of smoke and mirrors going on with the Bombers and GWS over Setterfield.

http://www.foxsports.com.au/afl/gws-giants-have-called-essendons-bluff-after-plan-to-pick-will-setterfield-revealed/news-story/fff3a355925e486eb50ae8b96660502f?from=public_rss&nk=6379ae0566211782b48150da45b1ac5a-1476270159
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: nrich102 on October 12, 2016, 11:04:23 PM
tbh should have changed Gibbs to Harambe
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Grazz on October 12, 2016, 11:12:30 PM
Rick ‏@Swanniedog  24h24 hours ago
@6PRSportsToday
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: GoLions on October 12, 2016, 11:15:03 PM
Quote from: Grazz on October 12, 2016, 11:12:30 PM
Rick ‏@Swanniedog  24h24 hours ago
@6PRSportsToday
fuark, that's huge news if true
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: TomK on October 12, 2016, 11:21:54 PM
Quote from: GoLions on October 12, 2016, 11:15:03 PM
Quote from: Grazz on October 12, 2016, 11:12:30 PM
Rick ‏@Swanniedog  24h24 hours ago
@6PRSportsToday
fuark, that's huge news if true
Massive! ;D
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Grazz on October 12, 2016, 11:23:06 PM
What wait, ooops  :-[
I swear I wrote stuff in there to.  ???

Now I gotta go find it again flower flower flower.  :-\

Just tried again, why the flower ain't it working, the quote and what I write isn't coming up
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: PowerBug on October 12, 2016, 11:31:04 PM
Rick ‏@Swanniedog Oct 11
@6PRSportsToday  Cmon Hagdorn surely you can do better than this crap? If this happens I will clean your car with a toothbrush nude at 6PR

I assume that's what you wanted?
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Grazz on October 12, 2016, 11:34:11 PM
Quote from: PowerBug on October 12, 2016, 11:31:04 PM
Rick ‏@Swanniedog Oct 11
@6PRSportsToday  Cmon Hagdorn surely you can do better than this crap? If this happens I will clean your car with a toothbrush nude at 6PR

I assume that's what you wanted?

Yeh mate, why wouldn't it let me paste it in there besides what it did allow me ? Got me buggered

Anyway i'm guessing this is over Sam going to WC, wonder if he'll honour the bet.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: RiOtChEsS on October 12, 2016, 11:58:18 PM
Quote from: Mat0369 on October 12, 2016, 09:46:43 PM
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on October 12, 2016, 09:45:01 PM
i'm shocked RiOtChEsS fell for it it was from his post that started the thread

Go double check that  :P
;)
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Money Shot on October 13, 2016, 12:18:25 AM
BREAKING NEWS: Gibbs has requested a trade to Adelaide!!! What's everyone's thoughts?
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: valkorum on October 13, 2016, 01:33:21 AM
Quote from: Grazz on October 12, 2016, 11:34:11 PM
Quote from: PowerBug on October 12, 2016, 11:31:04 PM
Rick ‏@Swanniedog Oct 11
@6PRSportsToday  Cmon Hagdorn surely you can do better than this crap? If this happens I will clean your car with a toothbrush nude at 6PR

I assume that's what you wanted?

Yeh mate, why wouldn't it let me paste it in there besides what it did allow me ? Got me buggered

Anyway i'm guessing this is over Sam going to WC, wonder if he'll honour the bet.

This guy Swanniedog is a mate of mine.  We are trying our very best to get him to go through with this.  We've even suggested that he wear body paint - lol

Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: elephants on October 13, 2016, 01:36:43 AM
Quote from: valkorum on October 13, 2016, 01:33:21 AM
Quote from: Grazz on October 12, 2016, 11:34:11 PM
Quote from: PowerBug on October 12, 2016, 11:31:04 PM
Rick ‏@Swanniedog Oct 11
@6PRSportsToday  Cmon Hagdorn surely you can do better than this crap? If this happens I will clean your car with a toothbrush nude at 6PR

I assume that's what you wanted?

Yeh mate, why wouldn't it let me paste it in there besides what it did allow me ? Got me buggered

Anyway i'm guessing this is over Sam going to WC, wonder if he'll honour the bet.

This guy Swanniedog is a mate of mine.  We are trying our very best to get him to go through with this.  We've even suggested that he wear body paint - lol

Hahahaha gold!
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Purple 77 on October 13, 2016, 08:54:14 AM
Lol, "softie" is great!

"Squib" would have also sufficed :P
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Big Mac on October 13, 2016, 10:49:50 AM
Hill traded for pick 23 as expected
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: RiOtChEsS on October 13, 2016, 11:17:02 AM
Simon Morawetz @SYMorawetz
2015: Hawks trade Jed Anderson for pick 15.

2016: Hawks get Tom Mitchell for pick 14. #AFLTrades
9:32 AM - 13 Oct 2016

Flowering lmao this is why Hawthorn gimme the showers :-X
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: kilbluff1985 on October 13, 2016, 11:23:08 AM
The Age is reporting that GWS and Brisbane have done a trade of picks. Brisbane get 3 & 16 in exchange for 2, 31, 51 and 60
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: kilbluff1985 on October 13, 2016, 11:25:22 AM
Ryan Davidson ‏@davo_media  3m3 minutes ago
@westernbulldogs midfielder Koby Stevens has requested a trade to @stkildafc. More to come on @AFL website shortly.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Gigantor on October 13, 2016, 11:30:36 AM
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on October 13, 2016, 11:25:22 AM
Ryan Davidson ‏@davo_media  3m3 minutes ago
@westernbulldogs midfielder Koby Stevens has requested a trade to @stkildafc. More to come on @AFL website shortly.

He should change his name to Jack  ;D How much would that flower with commentators haha
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Purple 77 on October 13, 2016, 11:32:29 AM
Quote from: Gigantor on October 13, 2016, 11:30:36 AM
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on October 13, 2016, 11:25:22 AM
Ryan Davidson ‏@davo_media  3m3 minutes ago
@westernbulldogs midfielder Koby Stevens has requested a trade to @stkildafc. More to come on @AFL website shortly.

He should change his name to Jack  ;D How much would that flower with commentators haha

I'd imagine there would be no difference for them ::)
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Bill Manspeaker on October 13, 2016, 11:35:43 AM
could mean goodbye to Armo if we can get good picks for him :(

Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: iZander on October 13, 2016, 11:36:41 AM
Quote from: Purple 77 on October 13, 2016, 11:32:29 AM
Quote from: Gigantor on October 13, 2016, 11:30:36 AM
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on October 13, 2016, 11:25:22 AM
Ryan Davidson ‏@davo_media  3m3 minutes ago
@westernbulldogs midfielder Koby Stevens has requested a trade to @stkildafc. More to come on @AFL website shortly.

He should change his name to Jack  ;D How much would that flower with commentators haha

I'd imagine there would be no difference for them ::)
lol
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: SydneyRox on October 13, 2016, 11:36:54 AM
Quote from: RiOtChEsS on October 13, 2016, 11:17:02 AM
Simon Morawetz @SYMorawetz
2015: Hawks trade Jed Anderson for pick 15.

2016: Hawks get Tom Mitchell for pick 14. #AFLTrades
9:32 AM - 13 Oct 2016

Flowering lmao this is why Hawthorn gimme the showers :-X

CRAP - when you look at it like that we did get shafted :(

oh well
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Rusty00 on October 13, 2016, 11:43:29 AM
Quote from: SydneyRox on October 13, 2016, 11:36:54 AM
Quote from: RiOtChEsS on October 13, 2016, 11:17:02 AM
Simon Morawetz @SYMorawetz
2015: Hawks trade Jed Anderson for pick 15.

2016: Hawks get Tom Mitchell for pick 14. #AFLTrades
9:32 AM - 13 Oct 2016

Flowering lmao this is why Hawthorn gimme the showers :-X

CRAP - when you look at it like that we did get shafted :(

oh well
It's not just Pick 14 for Mitchell, there will be other picks involved.

But yeah in basic terms, the Roos really overpaid for Anderson ;)
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Scrads on October 13, 2016, 11:58:53 AM
This thread ticks over 6000 posts!
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: JBs-Hawks on October 13, 2016, 12:01:39 PM
Quote from: Rusty00 on October 13, 2016, 11:43:29 AM
Quote from: SydneyRox on October 13, 2016, 11:36:54 AM
Quote from: RiOtChEsS on October 13, 2016, 11:17:02 AM
Simon Morawetz @SYMorawetz
2015: Hawks trade Jed Anderson for pick 15.

2016: Hawks get Tom Mitchell for pick 14. #AFLTrades
9:32 AM - 13 Oct 2016

Flowering lmao this is why Hawthorn gimme the showers :-X

CRAP - when you look at it like that we did get shafted :(

oh well
It's not just Pick 14 for Mitchell, there will be other picks involved.

But yeah in basic terms, the Roos really overpaid for Anderson ;)

He was the last piece to their premiership puzzle
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: TomK on October 13, 2016, 12:10:20 PM
Surprised there has been nothing said about interest in Ricky Henderson, free agency window ends on Sunday, I would have thought a few clubs would look at him.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: RaisyDaisy on October 13, 2016, 12:11:33 PM
Brisbane now have 4 picks inside the Top 21 - great opportunity for them to land some good kids

Hopefully they won't want to go home to Mummy in 3 years time
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Gigantor on October 13, 2016, 12:35:05 PM
(https://images.scribblelive.com/2016/10/13/7cbb79ec-5bd1-43f6-a0c2-cc8780f7c05c_800.png)

Gumby hahahaha
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: valkorum on October 13, 2016, 01:17:41 PM
AFL Trade Whisperer on Twitter saying that STK are offering Hickey and a pick to get Weller


NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
*takes a breath*
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: powersuperkents on October 13, 2016, 01:24:58 PM
Probably the biggest bombshell of this trade period  :P

http://www.zerohanger.com/reports-port-youngster-requests-trade-8124/ (http://www.zerohanger.com/reports-port-youngster-requests-trade-8124/)

Ah Chee requests a trade to Gold Coast
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: SydneyRox on October 13, 2016, 01:27:16 PM
Quote from: Gigantor on October 13, 2016, 12:35:05 PM
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Gumby hahahaha


Lot of what i would call unfulfilled potential on the list.

Players who are very good, but were all meant to be superstars

Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Pkbaldy on October 13, 2016, 01:31:11 PM
Quote from: valkorum on October 13, 2016, 01:17:41 PM
AFL Trade Whisperer on Twitter saying that STK are offering Hickey and a pick to get Weller


NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
*takes a breath*
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

Doubtful.

If anything we'd be offering Longer. Not Hickey.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: elephants on October 13, 2016, 01:34:42 PM
Quote from: valkorum on October 13, 2016, 01:17:41 PM
AFL Trade Whisperer on Twitter saying that STK are offering Hickey and a pick to get Weller


NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
*takes a breath*
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

Very smart by the Sainters

Quote from: Pkbaldy on October 13, 2016, 01:31:11 PM
Quote from: valkorum on October 13, 2016, 01:17:41 PM
AFL Trade Whisperer on Twitter saying that STK are offering Hickey and a pick to get Weller


NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
*takes a breath*
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

Doubtful.

If anything we'd be offering Longer. Not Hickey.

Longer ain't worth jack atm
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Pkbaldy on October 13, 2016, 01:39:33 PM
Quote from: elephants on October 13, 2016, 01:34:42 PM
Quote from: valkorum on October 13, 2016, 01:17:41 PM
AFL Trade Whisperer on Twitter saying that STK are offering Hickey and a pick to get Weller


NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
*takes a breath*
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

Very smart by the Sainters

Quote from: Pkbaldy on October 13, 2016, 01:31:11 PM
Quote from: valkorum on October 13, 2016, 01:17:41 PM
AFL Trade Whisperer on Twitter saying that STK are offering Hickey and a pick to get Weller


NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
*takes a breath*
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

Doubtful.

If anything we'd be offering Longer. Not Hickey.

Longer ain't worth jack atm

Exactly, so why would we have him as our #1 Ruck if we don't know if he can handle it. We got plenty of midfielders coming through, why would we want another 1 for a gun ruck.

Gresh > Weller.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Pkbaldy on October 13, 2016, 01:40:41 PM
I reckon Armo + Webster to GC could be a chance. But if Hickey goes, i won't bother with my membership. Won't make finals without him.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: elephants on October 13, 2016, 01:54:16 PM
I rate Longer, and honestly neither Hickey nor Longer can play second fiddle so having both is a bit of a waste.

Longer has more upside than Hickey (in my opinion) so I don't mind the idea, though I do think you could get someone more established in exchange for Hickey... Richmond would probably give you Dusty + Cotch :P

Regardless, I dont think there's a whole lot to this rumour.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: GoLions on October 13, 2016, 01:57:40 PM
Quote from: elephants on October 13, 2016, 01:54:16 PM
I rate Longer, and honestly neither Hickey nor Longer can play second fiddle so having both is a bit of a waste.

Longer has more upside than Hickey (in my opinion) so I don't mind the idea, though I do think you could get someone more established in exchange for Hickey... Richmond would probably give you Dusty + Cotch :P

Regardless, I dont think there's a whole lot to this rumour.
Hickey was arguably one of the top 5 rucks in the comp this year. Hadn't seen much of him before this year but he was outstanding. Saints trading him and a pick or whatever for Weller would be ridiculously stupid.

As Pk said, if the Saints traded Hickey for someone like Weller, that significantly hurts their chances at finals. Longer hasn't shown much at AFL level (although been great in the VFL from what I've heard) and relying on him would be stupid.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: elephants on October 13, 2016, 02:12:20 PM
Quote from: GoLions on October 13, 2016, 01:57:40 PM
Quote from: elephants on October 13, 2016, 01:54:16 PM
I rate Longer, and honestly neither Hickey nor Longer can play second fiddle so having both is a bit of a waste.

Longer has more upside than Hickey (in my opinion) so I don't mind the idea, though I do think you could get someone more established in exchange for Hickey... Richmond would probably give you Dusty + Cotch :P

Regardless, I dont think there's a whole lot to this rumour.
Hickey was arguably one of the top 5 rucks in the comp this year. Hadn't seen much of him before this year but he was outstanding. Saints trading him and a pick or whatever for Weller would be ridiculously stupid.

As Pk said, if the Saints traded Hickey for someone like Weller, that significantly hurts their chances at finals. Longer hasn't shown much at AFL level (although been great in the VFL from what I've heard) and relying on him would be stupid.

Haha I knew my opinion would be controversial. It is just my opinion, and it is not the general consensus so I expected to cop some heat for it! Like I said though, I'd be targeting someone more established than Weller, there are a lot of teams that could use a Tom Hickey (maybe.. the Saints included haha).

Also who knows, maybe Weller is the final piece to the Saints premiership puzzle?
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: valkorum on October 13, 2016, 02:12:41 PM
I dont want to give up Weller - END OF STORY
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: elephants on October 13, 2016, 02:14:59 PM
Quote from: valkorum on October 13, 2016, 02:12:41 PM
I dont want to give up Weller - END OF STORY

haha Rico is the same and so are a few of my Freo mates :P
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: valkorum on October 13, 2016, 02:20:44 PM
Quote from: elephants on October 13, 2016, 02:14:59 PM
Quote from: valkorum on October 13, 2016, 02:12:41 PM
I dont want to give up Weller - END OF STORY

haha Rico is the same and so are a few of my Freo mates :P

What I saw from his this season... I like.  I think he will be a great player
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: iZander on October 13, 2016, 02:24:19 PM
Quote from: valkorum on October 13, 2016, 02:20:44 PM
Quote from: elephants on October 13, 2016, 02:14:59 PM
Quote from: valkorum on October 13, 2016, 02:12:41 PM
I dont want to give up Weller - END OF STORY

haha Rico is the same and so are a few of my Freo mates :P

What I saw from his this season... I like.  I think he will be a great player
Thats two seasons in a row weller linked to trade back to Saints to be with his brother! Its going to happen sometime, and to get Hickey, exactly what you need, would be amazing!
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Bill Manspeaker on October 13, 2016, 02:28:00 PM
haha I'd listen to my mum's 'insight' on trades over 'the trade whisperer'

and mum doesn't even follow footy. she probably knows like 3 players

Lachie will get here one day though. may not be this year, may not be next year, but it'll happen. juuust a matter of time :P

and no I don't wanna trade Hickey
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Mat0369 on October 13, 2016, 02:30:58 PM
If I was getting offered Hickey and a pick for Weller I would not think twice if I was Freo. A ready made replacement for Sandi that's still young, you would be crazy to not pull the trigger.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Bill Manspeaker on October 13, 2016, 02:37:24 PM
Hickey is worth more than Lachie at this stage

one of the top rucks or a young exciting talented winger. the ruck is worth more, even though I really rate Weller
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Rusty00 on October 13, 2016, 02:45:24 PM
Quote from: Bill Manspeaker on October 13, 2016, 02:28:00 PM
and mum doesn't even follow footy. she probably knows like 3 players
I'm assuming one of them is Gibbs?
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: AaronKirk on October 13, 2016, 02:45:37 PM
St Kilda would be flowering insane to trade Hickey.

Makes no sense when he probably is in the top handful of rucks in the comp. If Freo want a reserve ruck give them Longer.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Bill Manspeaker on October 13, 2016, 02:52:32 PM
Quote from: Rusty00 on October 13, 2016, 02:45:24 PM
Quote from: Bill Manspeaker on October 13, 2016, 02:28:00 PM
and mum doesn't even follow footy. she probably knows like 3 players
I'm assuming one of them is Softie?
haha who is Softie :P
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: RaisyDaisy on October 13, 2016, 03:15:37 PM
Quote from: AaronKirk on October 13, 2016, 02:45:37 PM
St Kilda would be flowering insane to trade Hickey.

Makes no sense when he probably is in the top handful of rucks in the comp. If Freo want a reserve ruck give them Longer.

They traded McEvoy when he was at his peak, so it wouldn't surprise me lol
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Pkbaldy on October 13, 2016, 03:23:48 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on October 13, 2016, 03:15:37 PM
Quote from: AaronKirk on October 13, 2016, 02:45:37 PM
St Kilda would be flowering insane to trade Hickey.

Makes no sense when he probably is in the top handful of rucks in the comp. If Freo want a reserve ruck give them Longer.

They traded McEvoy when he was at his peak, so it wouldn't surprise me lol

That was for the rebuild. Because we had Hickey and Longer coming in. Completely different circumstance.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: LF on October 13, 2016, 03:26:21 PM
So where did the Rockliff to Tigers for Lids + 3rd rounder come from,anyone know if this is in fact true or not
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Nige on October 13, 2016, 03:30:45 PM
Quote from: LF on October 13, 2016, 03:26:21 PM
So where did the Rockliff to Tigers for Lids + 3rd rounder come from,anyone know if this is in fact true or not
:o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: TomK on October 13, 2016, 03:42:00 PM
Now there's rumours of Jordan Lewis to the Dees!
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: LF on October 13, 2016, 03:45:24 PM
Quote from: TomK on October 13, 2016, 03:42:00 PM
Now there's rumours of Jordan Lewis to the Dees!

Yep I just saw this as well haha
I also read yesterday that he was one that wouldn't take a pay cut like Burgoyne etc did,I really don't know if this is true or not but makes a bit of sense if they need cap space for Tmitch and O'Meara
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Money Shot on October 13, 2016, 03:56:57 PM
Just a potential trade that me and my mate come up with in class! Probably should be studying for year 12 exams but this is much more fun :P

Brisbane

Receive: next years first (Hawks)
Lose: Hanley

Gold Coast

Receive: Pick 6, Hanley
Lose: Omeara, Prestia

Hawthorn

Receive: O'meara
Lose: pick 23, Next years first

Richmond

Receive: Prestia, pick 23
Lose: pick 6

*edited*
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: RiOtChEsS on October 13, 2016, 03:57:43 PM
Quote from: LF on October 13, 2016, 03:45:24 PM
Quote from: TomK on October 13, 2016, 03:42:00 PM
Now there's rumours of Jordan Lewis to the Dees!

Yep I just saw this as well haha
I also read yesterday that he was one that wouldn't take a pay cut like Burgoyne etc did,I really don't know if this is true or not but makes a bit of sense if they need cap space for Tmitch and O'Meara
Totally bananas, is it crazy or genius? one thing is for sure it is the future... i guess :-\
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: iZander on October 13, 2016, 04:12:36 PM
Quote from: Money Shot on October 13, 2016, 03:56:57 PM
Just a potential trade that me and my mate come up with in class! Probably should be studying for year 12 exams but this is much more fun :P

Brisbane

Receive: Pick 6, next years first (Hawks)
Lose: Pick 3, Hanley

Gold Coast

Receive: Pick 3, Hanley
Lose: Omeara, Prestia

Hawthorn

Receive: O'meara
Lose: pick 23, Next years first

Richmond

Receive: Prestia, pick 23
Lose: pick 6

That would be devastating for Brisbane id think :P
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: valkorum on October 13, 2016, 04:57:42 PM
Quote from: Money Shot on October 13, 2016, 03:56:57 PM
Just a potential trade that me and my mate come up with in class! Probably should be studying for year 12 exams but this is much more fun :P

Brisbane

Receive: Pick 6, next years first (Hawks)
Lose: Pick 3, Hanley

Gold Coast

Receive: Pick 3, Hanley
Lose: Omeara, Prestia

Hawthorn

Receive: O'meara
Lose: pick 23, Next years first

Richmond

Receive: Prestia, pick 23
Lose: pick 6

Brisbane get screwed big time in this deal.

Why would they give up Hanley AND go back 3 places in this draft just to get a mid to end of 1st round pick next season (which is what they will get from Hawks as they will be in the top 8 again for sure)
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Purple 77 on October 13, 2016, 05:04:59 PM
Quote from: LF on October 13, 2016, 03:45:24 PM
Quote from: TomK on October 13, 2016, 03:42:00 PM
Now there's rumours of Jordan Lewis to the Dees!

Yep I just saw this as well haha
I also read yesterday that he was one that wouldn't take a pay cut like Burgoyne etc did,I really don't know if this is true or not but makes a bit of sense if they need cap space for Tmitch and O'Meara

I read about Lewis to Melbourne on Demonland on Monday morning, but thought it too stupid to mention here... but looks like there was at least something now  :-X

But Hawks just squashed that rumour. Probably because of the Sam Mitchell developments.

I don't really know if I want Lewis. I think I'm leaning towards no; stop getting in Oliver's way.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: GoLions on October 13, 2016, 05:05:26 PM
Quote from: Purple 77 on October 13, 2016, 05:04:59 PM
Quote from: LF on October 13, 2016, 03:45:24 PM
Quote from: TomK on October 13, 2016, 03:42:00 PM
Now there's rumours of Jordan Lewis to the Dees!

Yep I just saw this as well haha
I also read yesterday that he was one that wouldn't take a pay cut like Burgoyne etc did,I really don't know if this is true or not but makes a bit of sense if they need cap space for Tmitch and O'Meara

I read about Lewis to Melbourne on Demonland on Monday morning, but thought it too stupid to mention here... but looks like there was at least something now  :-X

But Hawks just squashed that rumour. Probably because of the Sam Mitchell developments.

I don't really know if I want Lewis. I think I'm leaning towards no; stop getting in Oliver's way.
Lewis is poo
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Money Shot on October 13, 2016, 05:08:18 PM
Quote from: valkorum on October 13, 2016, 04:57:42 PM
Quote from: Money Shot on October 13, 2016, 03:56:57 PM
Just a potential trade that me and my mate come up with in class! Probably should be studying for year 12 exams but this is much more fun :P

Brisbane

Receive: Pick 6, next years first (Hawks)
Lose: Pick 3, Hanley

Gold Coast

Receive: Pick 3, Hanley
Lose: Omeara, Prestia

Hawthorn

Receive: O'meara
Lose: pick 23, Next years first

Richmond

Receive: Prestia, pick 23
Lose: pick 6

Brisbane get screwed big time in this deal.

Why would they give up Hanley AND go back 3 places in this draft just to get a mid to end of 1st round pick next season (which is what they will get from Hawks as they will be in the top 8 again for sure)

Yeah that's fair enough! Just an idea :P

Maybe the lions keep pick 3 and instead of pick 6 going to them it goes to the Suns?
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: GoLions on October 13, 2016, 05:13:19 PM
Quote from: Money Shot on October 13, 2016, 05:08:18 PM
Quote from: valkorum on October 13, 2016, 04:57:42 PM
Quote from: Money Shot on October 13, 2016, 03:56:57 PM
Just a potential trade that me and my mate come up with in class! Probably should be studying for year 12 exams but this is much more fun :P

Brisbane

Receive: Pick 6, next years first (Hawks)
Lose: Pick 3, Hanley

Gold Coast

Receive: Pick 3, Hanley
Lose: Omeara, Prestia

Hawthorn

Receive: O'meara
Lose: pick 23, Next years first

Richmond

Receive: Prestia, pick 23
Lose: pick 6

Brisbane get screwed big time in this deal.

Why would they give up Hanley AND go back 3 places in this draft just to get a mid to end of 1st round pick next season (which is what they will get from Hawks as they will be in the top 8 again for sure)

Yeah that's fair enough! Just an idea :P

Maybe the lions keep pick 3 and instead of pick 6 going to them it goes to the Suns?
There's a chance we could get slightly better from the Suns just as a straight swap. I dunno who has exactly what though atm, so could be wrong.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: valkorum on October 13, 2016, 05:19:39 PM
Quote from: Money Shot on October 13, 2016, 05:08:18 PM
Yeah that's fair enough! Just an idea :P

Maybe the lions keep pick 3 and instead of pick 6 going to them it goes to the Suns?

May as well just trade directly with the Suns and get their next year pick.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: JBs-Hawks on October 13, 2016, 05:22:44 PM
Quote from: valkorum on October 13, 2016, 05:19:39 PM
Quote from: Money Shot on October 13, 2016, 05:08:18 PM
Yeah that's fair enough! Just an idea :P

Maybe the lions keep pick 3 and instead of pick 6 going to them it goes to the Suns?

May as well just trade directly with the Suns and get their next year pick.

So Hanleys worth a top 5 pick but Gibbs isnt  :P
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: valkorum on October 13, 2016, 05:29:46 PM
I am not saying he is worth a top 5 pick, just saying that Brisbane should deal directly with Suns... not via a big 4 way trade that only helps get O'Meara to the Hawks.

If they get next years 1st round pick from the Suns then so be it.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Ringo on October 13, 2016, 05:35:57 PM
Can not see Brisbane dropping down the order given statements by Noble and Schwab today after exchange of picks with GWS.
I reckon we will deal directly with Suns for one of the picks they receive for O'Meara or Prestia hopfully a late first rounder.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Purple 77 on October 13, 2016, 06:29:22 PM
Ahhhh haha. Wtf is going on

http://www.foxsports.com.au/afl/hawthorn-star-jordan-lewis-management-approached-melbourne-in-shock-trade-talks/news-story/21e49093529f46c661bcd5e550a79881
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Ricochet on October 13, 2016, 06:31:23 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on October 12, 2016, 10:18:00 AM
Money is on Sam Mitchell pulling the piss to stick it up media for Breust rumours
Now Lewis is joining in
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: SydneyRox on October 13, 2016, 06:37:58 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on October 13, 2016, 06:31:23 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on October 12, 2016, 10:18:00 AM
Money is on Sam Mitchell pulling the piss to stick it up media for Breust rumours
Now Lewis is joining in

great work!!

Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: valkorum on October 13, 2016, 07:10:09 PM
Jonathon Marsh has requested a trade back to WA.  Surely a bag of chips gets this done?
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Money Shot on October 13, 2016, 07:28:06 PM
Quote from: valkorum on October 13, 2016, 07:10:09 PM
Jonathon Marsh has requested a trade back to WA.  Surely a bag of chips gets this done?
I can genuinely say that I have never heard of him hahaha
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: jvalles69 on October 13, 2016, 07:31:46 PM
Quote from: Money Shot on October 13, 2016, 07:28:06 PM
Quote from: valkorum on October 13, 2016, 07:10:09 PM
Jonathon Marsh has requested a trade back to WA.  Surely a bag of chips gets this done?
I can genuinely say that I have never heard of him hahaha

Me neither, a few Collingwood supporters seem a bit upset, he was being groomed to be a KP defender.  Guess he'll go to Freo, West Coast don't need another KP defender.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: meow meow on October 13, 2016, 07:40:31 PM
Could play as 3rd tall. He's quick so could play on anyone.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: SydneyRox on October 13, 2016, 07:43:40 PM
Quote from: Money Shot on October 13, 2016, 07:28:06 PM
Quote from: valkorum on October 13, 2016, 07:10:09 PM
Jonathon Marsh has requested a trade back to WA.  Surely a bag of chips gets this done?
I can genuinely say that I have never heard of him hahaha

he was a big story draft night 2-3years ago.

Was ranked in top 20 I think, but slid all the way to Pies at 77. Bypassed by both Freo and West coast a few times despite being a WA boy

Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: fanTCfool on October 13, 2016, 07:47:05 PM
If Marsh goes to Fremantle, Hamling will probably stay put.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Nige on October 13, 2016, 08:23:03 PM
Quote from: jvalles69 on October 13, 2016, 07:31:46 PM
Quote from: Money Shot on October 13, 2016, 07:28:06 PM
Quote from: valkorum on October 13, 2016, 07:10:09 PM
Jonathon Marsh has requested a trade back to WA.  Surely a bag of chips gets this done?
I can genuinely say that I have never heard of him hahaha

Me neither, a few Collingwood supporters seem a bit upset, he was being groomed to be a KP defender.  Guess he'll go to Freo, West Coast don't need another KP defender.
Filthy casuals.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: kilbluff1985 on October 13, 2016, 08:38:59 PM
Quote from: Nige on October 13, 2016, 08:23:03 PM
Quote from: jvalles69 on October 13, 2016, 07:31:46 PM
Quote from: Money Shot on October 13, 2016, 07:28:06 PM
Quote from: valkorum on October 13, 2016, 07:10:09 PM
Jonathon Marsh has requested a trade back to WA.  Surely a bag of chips gets this done?
I can genuinely say that I have never heard of him hahaha

Me neither, a few Collingwood supporters seem a bit upset, he was being groomed to be a KP defender.  Guess he'll go to Freo, West Coast don't need another KP defender.
Filthy casuals.

+1 filthy casual fans not knowing every player
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Nige on October 13, 2016, 08:43:10 PM
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on October 13, 2016, 08:38:59 PM
Quote from: Nige on October 13, 2016, 08:23:03 PM
Quote from: jvalles69 on October 13, 2016, 07:31:46 PM
Quote from: Money Shot on October 13, 2016, 07:28:06 PM
Quote from: valkorum on October 13, 2016, 07:10:09 PM
Jonathon Marsh has requested a trade back to WA.  Surely a bag of chips gets this done?
I can genuinely say that I have never heard of him hahaha

Me neither, a few Collingwood supporters seem a bit upset, he was being groomed to be a KP defender.  Guess he'll go to Freo, West Coast don't need another KP defender.
Filthy casuals.

+1 filthy casual fans not knowing every player
And to think they have the nerve to call themselves footy fans!
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: RaisyDaisy on October 13, 2016, 09:33:26 PM
I really liked what I saw from Marsh this year

Would be a great pickup for Freo

I'd be happy to have him at WCE but can't see how he fits in with our defensive depth
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Jukes on October 13, 2016, 10:10:51 PM
Quote from: Nige on October 13, 2016, 08:43:10 PM
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on October 13, 2016, 08:38:59 PM
Quote from: Nige on October 13, 2016, 08:23:03 PM
Quote from: jvalles69 on October 13, 2016, 07:31:46 PM
Quote from: Money Shot on October 13, 2016, 07:28:06 PM
Quote from: valkorum on October 13, 2016, 07:10:09 PM
Jonathon Marsh has requested a trade back to WA.  Surely a bag of chips gets this done?
I can genuinely say that I have never heard of him hahaha

Me neither, a few Collingwood supporters seem a bit upset, he was being groomed to be a KP defender.  Guess he'll go to Freo, West Coast don't need another KP defender.
Filthy casuals.

+1 filthy casual fans not knowing every player
And to think they have the nerve to call themselves footy fans!

Tbh if you can't list facts about every footballer since 2000 you should just get off this site

#JaxonCrabbFanClub
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: valkorum on October 13, 2016, 10:21:50 PM
Jonathon Marsh played about 10 - 12 games for Collingwood this season - how could they not know who he is?

As much as I would love him at Freo, WC may be in the box seat and do a straight swap Brown for Marsh.  Browns partner has been signed up to play for the Collingwood Netball team, so could be a perfect swap.  Collingwood get some experience in to their backline and WC get a young key defender to develop and have as depth cover for McGovern/Barras
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Ringo on October 13, 2016, 10:26:21 PM
Hartung rumoured to be being considered by Lions for pick 16 to be on traded to Suns for O'Meara, which may come back to us for Hanley. So if that is the case why not a three way trade
Hawks get O'Meara give Hartung
Suns give O'Meara get Hanley
Lions give Hanley get Hartung.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: TomK on October 13, 2016, 10:33:20 PM
Quote from: valkorum on October 13, 2016, 10:21:50 PM
Jonathon Marsh played about 10 - 12 games for Collingwood this season - how could they not know who he is?

As much as I would love him at Freo, WC may be in the box seat and do a straight swap Brown for Marsh.  Browns partner has been signed up to play for the Collingwood Netball team, so could be a perfect swap.  Collingwood get some experience in to their backline and WC get a young key defender to develop and have as depth cover for McGovern/Barras
Isn't Brown an unrestricted free agent?
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: GoLions on October 13, 2016, 10:34:15 PM
Quote from: TomK on October 13, 2016, 10:33:20 PM
Quote from: valkorum on October 13, 2016, 10:21:50 PM
Jonathon Marsh played about 10 - 12 games for Collingwood this season - how could they not know who he is?

As much as I would love him at Freo, WC may be in the box seat and do a straight swap Brown for Marsh.  Browns partner has been signed up to play for the Collingwood Netball team, so could be a perfect swap.  Collingwood get some experience in to their backline and WC get a young key defender to develop and have as depth cover for McGovern/Barras
Isn't Brown an unrestricted free agent?
Yep
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: RaisyDaisy on October 13, 2016, 10:52:32 PM
Mitchell/WCE deal said to be done - should be officially lodged tomorrow

Pick swapping
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Hellopplz on October 14, 2016, 12:02:43 AM
Quote from: Ringo on October 13, 2016, 10:26:21 PM
Hartung rumoured to be being considered by Lions for pick 16 to be on traded to Suns for O'Meara, which may come back to us for Hanley. So if that is the case why not a three way trade
Hawks get O'Meara give Hartung
Suns give O'Meara get Hanley
Lions give Hanley get Hartung.
One of these things is not like the other, one of these things just don't belong. O'Meara starts with an O.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: PowerBug on October 14, 2016, 12:16:49 AM
Quote from: Hellopplz on October 14, 2016, 12:02:43 AM
Quote from: Ringo on October 13, 2016, 10:26:21 PM
Hartung rumoured to be being considered by Lions for pick 16 to be on traded to Suns for O'Meara, which may come back to us for Hanley. So if that is the case why not a three way trade
Hawks get O'Meara give Hartung
Suns give O'Meara get Hanley
Lions give Hanley get Hartung.
One of these things is not like the other, one of these things just don't belong. O'Meara starts with an O.
There's a silent imaginary 'H' at the front of O'Meara
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Ricochet on October 14, 2016, 12:32:53 AM
Quote from: PowerBug on October 14, 2016, 12:16:49 AM
Quote from: Hellopplz on October 14, 2016, 12:02:43 AM
Quote from: Ringo on October 13, 2016, 10:26:21 PM
Hartung rumoured to be being considered by Lions for pick 16 to be on traded to Suns for O'Meara, which may come back to us for Hanley. So if that is the case why not a three way trade
Hawks get O'Meara give Hartung
Suns give O'Meara get Hanley
Lions give Hanley get Hartung.
One of these things is not like the other, one of these things just don't belong. O'Meara starts with an O.
There's a silent imaginary 'H' at the front of O'Meara
heard he gets around a bit
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: lachie_001 on October 14, 2016, 12:59:42 AM
Just for fun, here's a Mega Trade:

Adel In: Softie, Pick 26
Adel Out: CEY, Lyons, Pick 13, Pick 53

Carl In: Marchbank, Pickett, Stewart, Pick 15
Carl Out: Softie, Pick 25, Pick 58

GWS In: Pick 13, Pick 25, Pick 44, Pick 53, Pick 58
*25+44+53+58 = 409 more than 15*
GWS Out: Marchbank, Pickett, Stewart, Pick 15

PA In: CEY
PA Out: Ah Chee

GC In: Ah Chee, Lyons
GC Out: Pick 26, Pick 44
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Spite on October 14, 2016, 02:10:13 AM
Can we just hold up a sec and talk about the fact multiple people just said that Hickey was a top 5 ruck?

Where does he fit in on this list?

Gawn
Goldy
NicNat
Grundy
Hickey?!
Jacobs
Mumford
Stef
Sandi

is this the order in everyones mind?
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Mat0369 on October 14, 2016, 02:27:26 AM
I wouldn't have Stef on the list after last season.

My top guys when fit would be as follows.

Goldy
Gawn

Mummy
Sandi
Nic Nat

Sauce
Grundy
Ryder
Hickey
Roughead

Big Boy
Stef
Tippett
Kreuz
Zac Smith
Leuenberger
Hammer
Nicholls

A few of those are downgraded for being walking injuries (Kreuz/Berger), Tippett I think is a better forward or he would be higher, Roughy is probably the most versatile so he is top 10.

I think with injury and maybe age getting a few on that list Hickey gets close to top 5. His tap work is probably better then guys like Grundy but I think Grundy gives something extra around the ground.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: GoLions on October 14, 2016, 02:40:14 AM
Was only talking about this year Spiteyman ;)

And you and Matt both seem to have him in your top 7 for this year at the very least anyway :p

And yeah, Stef isn't that good of a ruckman. Pretty decent midfielder though.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: meow meow on October 14, 2016, 03:02:58 AM
Brown to Collingwood would be clever. Could just name one brother to play then swap them at half time.

"Nathan Brown has badly broken his leg"
"A miraculous recovery by Brown after going down to the rooms 5 minutes ago"
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Big Mac on October 14, 2016, 03:09:32 AM
Quote from: lachie_001 on October 14, 2016, 12:59:42 AM
Just for fun, here's a Mega Trade:

Adel In: Softie, Pick 26
Adel Out: CEY, Lyons, Pick 13, Pick 53

Carl In: Marchbank, Pickett, Stewart, Pick 15
Carl Out: Softie, Pick 25, Pick 58

GWS In: Pick 13, Pick 25, Pick 44, Pick 53, Pick 58
*25+44+53+58 = 409 more than 15*
GWS Out: Marchbank, Pickett, Stewart, Pick 15

PA In: CEY
PA Out: Ah Chee

GC In: Ah Chee, Lyons
GC Out: Pick 26, Pick 44

Adelaide, GC, Port meh

GWS getting shafted though, Carlton getting a steal, would probably be fairer if you just omitted pick 15 altogether
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: elephants on October 14, 2016, 03:26:52 AM
Quote from: Big  Mac on October 14, 2016, 03:09:32 AM
Quote from: lachie_001 on October 14, 2016, 12:59:42 AM
Just for fun, here's a Mega Trade:

Adel In: Softie, Pick 26
Adel Out: CEY, Lyons, Pick 13, Pick 53

Carl In: Marchbank, Pickett, Stewart, Pick 15
Carl Out: Softie, Pick 25, Pick 58

GWS In: Pick 13, Pick 25, Pick 44, Pick 53, Pick 58
*25+44+53+58 = 409 more than 15*
GWS Out: Marchbank, Pickett, Stewart, Pick 15

PA In: CEY
PA Out: Ah Chee

GC In: Ah Chee, Lyons
GC Out: Pick 26, Pick 44

Adelaide, GC, Port meh

GWS getting shafted though, Carlton getting a steal, would probably be fairer if you just omitted pick 15 altogether

Haha honestly thought GC slayed it

Lyons > N26
BAC > N44
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Koop on October 14, 2016, 04:04:07 AM
Quote from: Big  Mac on October 14, 2016, 03:09:32 AM
Quote from: lachie_001 on October 14, 2016, 12:59:42 AM
Just for fun, here's a Mega Trade:

Adel In: Softie, Pick 26
Adel Out: CEY, Lyons, Pick 13, Pick 53

Carl In: Marchbank, Pickett, Stewart, Pick 15
Carl Out: Softie, Pick 25, Pick 58

GWS In: Pick 13, Pick 25, Pick 44, Pick 53, Pick 58
*25+44+53+58 = 409 more than 15*
GWS Out: Marchbank, Pickett, Stewart, Pick 15

PA In: CEY
PA Out: Ah Chee

GC In: Ah Chee, Lyons
GC Out: Pick 26, Pick 44

Adelaide, GC, Port meh

GWS getting shafted though, Carlton getting a steal, would probably be fairer if you just omitted pick 15 altogether


Mind you though I’d love CEY for Arch. As long as he isnt played completely in the wrong spot like Ah Chee was. What we really need though is an outside mid.

Quote from: kilbluff1985 on October 13, 2016, 08:38:59 PM
Quote from: Nige on October 13, 2016, 08:23:03 PM
Quote from: jvalles69 on October 13, 2016, 07:31:46 PM
Quote from: Money Shot on October 13, 2016, 07:28:06 PM
Quote from: valkorum on October 13, 2016, 07:10:09 PM
Jonathon Marsh has requested a trade back to WA.  Surely a bag of chips gets this done?
I can genuinely say that I have never heard of him hahaha

Me neither, a few Collingwood supporters seem a bit upset, he was being groomed to be a KP defender.  Guess he'll go to Freo, West Coast don't need another KP defender.
Filthy casuals.

+1 filthy casual fans not knowing every player

Think it more was a matter of the Pies losing a young KPP. Their KPP back stocks if they lose Marsh are pretty paper thin
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Money Shot on October 14, 2016, 08:44:21 AM
Quote from: lachie_001 on October 14, 2016, 12:59:42 AM
Just for fun, here's a Mega Trade:

Adel In: Softie, Pick 26
Adel Out: CEY, Lyons, Pick 13, Pick 53

Carl In: Marchbank, Pickett, Stewart, Pick 15
Carl Out: Softie, Pick 25, Pick 58

GWS In: Pick 13, Pick 25, Pick 44, Pick 53, Pick 58
*25+44+53+58 = 409 more than 15*
GWS Out: Marchbank, Pickett, Stewart, Pick 15

PA In: CEY
PA Out: Ah Chee

GC In: Ah Chee, Lyons
GC Out: Pick 26, Pick 44

As a Carlton fan I would love it if that happened 8)
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Money Shot on October 14, 2016, 09:09:58 AM
Apparently Carlton aren't even "picking up the phone" when Adelaide rings because they are content with Softie staying ::)
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: shaker on October 14, 2016, 09:34:44 AM
Quote from: Money Shot on October 14, 2016, 09:09:58 AM
Apparently Carlton aren't even "picking up the phone" when Adelaide rings because they are content with Softie staying ::)

Think that is wishful thinking from Carlton supporters stopping someone that wants to go home for family reasons because the club does not want him to go is stupid , he will get there next week and for less than Carlton is demanding
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Pkbaldy on October 14, 2016, 09:57:42 AM
Quote from: shaker on October 14, 2016, 09:34:44 AM
Quote from: Money Shot on October 14, 2016, 09:09:58 AM
Apparently Carlton aren't even "picking up the phone" when Adelaide rings because they are content with Softie staying ::)

Think that is wishful thinking from Carlton supporters stopping someone that wants to go home for family reasons because the club does not want him to go is stupid , he will get there next week and for less than Carlton is demanding

Stupid signing a long contract when you're a sook.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Money Shot on October 14, 2016, 10:07:49 AM
Quote from: Pkbaldy on October 14, 2016, 09:57:42 AM
Quote from: shaker on October 14, 2016, 09:34:44 AM
Quote from: Money Shot on October 14, 2016, 09:09:58 AM
Apparently Carlton aren't even "picking up the phone" when Adelaide rings because they are content with Softie staying ::)

Think that is wishful thinking from Carlton supporters stopping someone that wants to go home for family reasons because the club does not want him to go is stupid , he will get there next week and for less than Carlton is demanding

Stupid signing a long contract when you're a sook.
From what I saw in last years trade period SOS doesn't bluff and will keep Gibbs even if it's not for the best haha
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: shaker on October 14, 2016, 10:11:07 AM
Quote from: Pkbaldy on October 14, 2016, 09:57:42 AM
Quote from: shaker on October 14, 2016, 09:34:44 AM
Quote from: Money Shot on October 14, 2016, 09:09:58 AM
Apparently Carlton aren't even "picking up the phone" when Adelaide rings because they are content with Softie staying ::)

Think that is wishful thinking from Carlton supporters stopping someone that wants to go home for family reasons because the club does not want him to go is stupid , he will get there next week and for less than Carlton is demanding

Stupid signing a long contract when you're a sook.

Meh life does not always follow the path you choose
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: TomK on October 14, 2016, 10:16:40 AM
Quote from: Money Shot on October 14, 2016, 09:09:58 AM
Apparently Carlton aren't even "picking up the phone" when Adelaide rings because they are content with Softie staying ::)
I'm pretty sure that article was written by Rucci and while it was quoted on the AFL website, don't believe anything he says, the bloke knows nothing, is a flog and dislikes the Crows. Three hours before Gibbs was announced, he wrote an article saying the Crows would be doing nothing this trade period. Worst journo I know of. I wouldn't be happy about that as a Carlton fan though, my club acting like a sook.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Money Shot on October 14, 2016, 10:20:40 AM
Quote from: TomK on October 14, 2016, 10:16:40 AM
Quote from: Money Shot on October 14, 2016, 09:09:58 AM
Apparently Carlton aren't even "picking up the phone" when Adelaide rings because they are content with Softie staying ::)
I'm pretty sure that article was written by Rucci and while it was quoted on the AFL website, don't believe anything he says, the bloke knows nothing, is a flog and dislikes the Crows. Three hours before Softie was announced, he wrote an article saying the Crows would be doing nothing this trade period. Worst journo I know of. I wouldn't be happy about that as a Carlton fan though, my club acting like a sook.
Didn't realise it was from Rucci haha!
Yeah I think that asking for someone like Lever and Cameron is unreasonable!
Just want the deal to be over and done with!
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: RiOtChEsS on October 14, 2016, 10:25:50 AM
Quote from: Money Shot on October 14, 2016, 10:20:40 AM
Quote from: TomK on October 14, 2016, 10:16:40 AM
Quote from: Money Shot on October 14, 2016, 09:09:58 AM
Apparently Carlton aren't even "picking up the phone" when Adelaide rings because they are content with Softie staying ::)
I'm pretty sure that article was written by Rucci and while it was quoted on the AFL website, don't believe anything he says, the bloke knows nothing, is a flog and dislikes the Crows. Three hours before Softie was announced, he wrote an article saying the Crows would be doing nothing this trade period. Worst journo I know of. I wouldn't be happy about that as a Carlton fan though, my club acting like a sook.
Didn't realise it was from Rucci haha!
Yeah I think that asking for someone like Lever and Cameron is unreasonable!
Just want the deal to be over and done with!
Its chess not checkers ;)
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: RaisyDaisy on October 14, 2016, 10:38:16 AM
Jack Steele has just become a St Kilda player. More details to come.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Money Shot on October 14, 2016, 10:55:12 AM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on October 14, 2016, 10:38:16 AM
Jack Steele has just become a St Kilda player. More details to come.
Saints gave next years second round pick :)
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: kilbluff1985 on October 14, 2016, 10:59:42 AM
damn that's a steal
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Money Shot on October 14, 2016, 11:01:25 AM
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on October 14, 2016, 10:59:42 AM
damn that's a steal
Shows how good GWS are! He will be a great player for the saints and he was a fringe player at the Giants!

Good deal for both parties I reckon.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Bill Manspeaker on October 14, 2016, 11:10:31 AM
noice  8)
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Gigantor on October 14, 2016, 11:13:16 AM
How many Jack's is that now?
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Bill Manspeaker on October 14, 2016, 11:15:26 AM
6  ;D

Steven, Newnes, Billings, Sinclair, Lonie and Steele
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: kilbluff1985 on October 14, 2016, 11:15:44 AM
Sam Mitchell basically just got traded for pick 88
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: PowerBug on October 14, 2016, 11:17:13 AM
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on October 14, 2016, 10:59:42 AM
damn that's a steal
Genuinely or was that a pun attempt? ;D
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Money Shot on October 14, 2016, 11:23:13 AM
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on October 14, 2016, 11:15:44 AM
Sam Mitchell basically just got traded for pick 88
WTF REALLY HAHA
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: kilbluff1985 on October 14, 2016, 11:24:51 AM
Sam Mitchell deal completed, as we told you in @theheraldsun this morning. Hawks get picks 52, 70 & 88. Eagles receive 54 & 72. @superfooty
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Bill Manspeaker on October 14, 2016, 11:28:31 AM
Quote from: Money Shot on October 14, 2016, 11:23:13 AM
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on October 14, 2016, 11:15:44 AM
Sam Mitchell basically just got traded for pick 88
WTF REALLY HAHA
I'm not even a little bit surprised. he'll be on a one year deal, and probably won't sign another contract
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Bill Manspeaker on October 14, 2016, 11:30:05 AM
the Hawks just get things done. no wonder they've had so much success
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: kilbluff1985 on October 14, 2016, 11:46:38 AM
Jay Clark ‏@ClarkyHeraldSun  4m4 minutes ago Melbourne, Victoria
Marcus Adams is keen to explore a move back home to WA for personal reasons. May hinge on Hamling decision
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: PowerBug on October 14, 2016, 11:48:42 AM
Time to disband the AFL and we just play State Of Origin football for the entire season. This is getting ridiculous the amount of people wanting to "go home". And from the Bulldogs too that doesn't make sense!
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: powersuperkents on October 14, 2016, 11:55:00 AM
Why are people denigrating Carlton in the Gibbs trade... Gibbs is the sook and Carlton have every right not to trade if the Crows aren't willing to satisfy what Carlton perceives to be the value of a former no. 1 draft pick and required player who is contracted for the next 3 years...

If anything, Adelaide are sooking because Carlton won't shaft themselves.

I know people say that "contracts don't mean anything", however, the definition remains;

"Contract - A legally binding promise or agreement"

If the term "legally binding" meant nothing in Australia, society would crumble...
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: valkorum on October 14, 2016, 12:01:56 PM
Get stuffed all you east coasters.  Now you know what its like when players go to WA/SA/QLD etc and then want to come home.  Now its finally happening where WA players want to come home and its "not fair"

*I do disagree with players wanting to move and not fulfil contracts*... but while its allowed to happen - wooo hooo, its finally a chance for Freo to sure up some 10 year players
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: lachie_001 on October 14, 2016, 12:03:46 PM
Quote from: powersuperkents on October 14, 2016, 11:55:00 AM
Why are people denigrating Carlton in the Softie trade... Softie is the sook and Carlton have every right not to trade if the Crows aren't willing to satisfy what Carlton perceives to be the value of a former no. 1 draft pick and required player who is contracted for the next 3 years...

If anything, Adelaide are sooking because Carlton won't shaft themselves.

I know people say that "contracts don't mean anything", however, the definition remains;

"Contract - A legally binding promise or agreement"

If the term "legally binding" meant nothing in Australia, society would crumble...
They are acting pretty unprofessionally. I just think that because of this 3 year contract you could probably mistake Gibbs for being the best player in the competition. I think late next week this will be done maybe with a future 2nd pick. Cornes reporting Adelaide have only put pick 13 on the table.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: elephants on October 14, 2016, 12:10:42 PM
Sammy Mitchell <3 props to the Hawks here, clearly wanted the best for Sammy and that was reflected in their work at the trade table.

Okay Eags, time to make a heavy play for Marcus Adams! Blokes a freak!
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: valkorum on October 14, 2016, 12:22:09 PM
Hypothetical trade in light of recent news

Freo give pick 7
Dogs give Adams & Hamling
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: elephants on October 14, 2016, 12:25:56 PM
Quote from: valkorum on October 14, 2016, 12:22:09 PM
Hypothetical trade in light of recent news

Freo give pick 7
Dogs give Adams & Hamling

I know a lot of Freo supporters who wouldn't be happy with that. Apparently grooming Tim English pretty hard to one day take up the ruck role for the next decade.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Bill Manspeaker on October 14, 2016, 12:26:27 PM
Quote from: valkorum on October 14, 2016, 12:22:09 PM
Hypothetical trade in light of recent news

Freo give pick 7
Dogs give Adams & Hamling
the Dogs couldn't take that quick enough
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Ricochet on October 14, 2016, 12:28:35 PM
Quote from: valkorum on October 14, 2016, 12:22:09 PM
Hypothetical trade in light of recent news

Freo give pick 7
Dogs give Adams & Hamling
Yuck. Don't think we'll get both but should be able to without using #7 valk
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: GoLions on October 14, 2016, 12:28:41 PM
Quote from: elephants on October 14, 2016, 12:25:56 PM
Quote from: valkorum on October 14, 2016, 12:22:09 PM
Hypothetical trade in light of recent news

Freo give pick 7
Dogs give Adams & Hamling

I know a lot of Freo supporters who wouldn't be happy with that. Apparently grooming Tim English pretty hard to one day take up the ruck role for the next decade.
Yup ^

I think only one of Hamling/Adams would go, so no way Freo give up N7
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: TomK on October 14, 2016, 12:29:24 PM
Quote from: powersuperkents on October 14, 2016, 11:55:00 AM
Why are people denigrating Carlton in the Softie trade... Softie is the sook and Carlton have every right not to trade if the Crows aren't willing to satisfy what Carlton perceives to be the value of a former no. 1 draft pick and required player who is contracted for the next 3 years...

If anything, Adelaide are sooking because Carlton won't shaft themselves.

I know people say that "contracts don't mean anything", however, the definition remains;

"Contract - A legally binding promise or agreement"

If the term "legally binding" meant nothing in Australia, society would crumble...
How are we being sooks? Cause we aren't giving them a 22 year old forward who kicked 30 goals in his first year of senior football? Or cause we aren't giving them a 21 year old midfielder who averaged more touches in his third year than Gibbs has in every year? (I get they are different players but far out.) Or cause we aren't giving them a 22 year old player who was probably our best player against the Swans in the Semi and has improved every year on the list? And they are asking for anyone of these players, along with pick 13, it's not even worth a straight swap for Crouch or Gov! Don't forget they are also contracted ::)

Would you as a Port supporter give up Ollie Wines and Pick 9 for him? No, you wouldn't. Also Gibbs status as Number 1 pick means nothing anymore.

If it's true, and I doubt it is, that Carlton aren't 'answering our calls', how can you say they are not acting like a bunch of sooks cause one of their best wants to go home for family?
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: valkorum on October 14, 2016, 12:37:27 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on October 14, 2016, 12:28:35 PM
Quote from: valkorum on October 14, 2016, 12:22:09 PM
Hypothetical trade in light of recent news

Freo give pick 7
Dogs give Adams & Hamling
Yuck. Don't think we'll get both but should be able to without using #7 valk

Whats yuck about it?

Pick 7 at the draft will get us one of the following:

SPS (at best)
Tim English or Griffin Logue more likely

If we offered up pick 7 for both players, we get 2 KPD who are both 23 and can play for another 7 - 10 years.  I think the value is better to get 2 x KPD
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Holz on October 14, 2016, 12:44:22 PM
Quote from: valkorum on October 14, 2016, 12:37:27 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on October 14, 2016, 12:28:35 PM
Quote from: valkorum on October 14, 2016, 12:22:09 PM
Hypothetical trade in light of recent news

Freo give pick 7
Dogs give Adams & Hamling
Yuck. Don't think we'll get both but should be able to without using #7 valk

Whats yuck about it?

Pick 7 at the draft will get us one of the following:

SPS (at best)
Tim English or Griffin Logue more likely

If we offered up pick 7 for both players, we get 2 KPD who are both 23 and can play for another 7 - 10 years.  I think the value is better to get 2 x KPD

Sandilands is old, Griffin is old and a back up, Clarke is a spud and i dont rate hannath, why wouldnt you want to get one of the most promising young rucks in the game.

2 KPD will certainly help, but unless you dont rate english i think the ruck situation needs the most work.


Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: valkorum on October 14, 2016, 12:49:31 PM
Before Adams/Hamling became available I was all for getting English with pick 7.   It's why i wasnt upset with the move from 3 to 7 to get McCarthy.  Made sense

If we can get Hamling and Adams without giving up pick 7 then I am all for it.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: elephants on October 14, 2016, 12:52:41 PM
I don't think both will move, Hamling will stay if Adams goes imo.

At pick 7 for the pair you're really paying a premium for how unproven they are. Not for a second saying they wont be great players, but Hamling is suddenly immensely valuable after a good finals series (3-4 games) while Adams has only played 10 or so games of footy in his AFL career!

Giving up the chance at Tim English for these two still relative unknows is risky imo.

Although I do think draft picks are overvalued in the AFL (personal opinion).
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Ricochet on October 14, 2016, 01:04:35 PM
Quote from: valkorum on October 14, 2016, 12:37:27 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on October 14, 2016, 12:28:35 PM
Quote from: valkorum on October 14, 2016, 12:22:09 PM
Hypothetical trade in light of recent news

Freo give pick 7
Dogs give Adams & Hamling
Yuck. Don't think we'll get both but should be able to without using #7 valk

Whats yuck about it?

Pick 7 at the draft will get us one of the following:

SPS (at best)
Tim English or Griffin Logue more likely

If we offered up pick 7 for both players, we get 2 KPD who are both 23 and can play for another 7 - 10 years.  I think the value is better to get 2 x KPD
Because why use 7 when you should be able to get them without it?

I like them but they aren't #7 quality
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: meow meow on October 14, 2016, 01:20:22 PM
Hamling and Adams for 7? POST IT UP!
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: RaisyDaisy on October 14, 2016, 01:27:44 PM
@Holz, pretty sure Hannath was delisted too

Freo only have Clarke after next year you would think
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Ricochet on October 14, 2016, 01:45:48 PM
Talk on twitter that Richmond are very close to flowering up the Prestia deal.

And Sydney are ready to swoop
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: GoLions on October 14, 2016, 01:47:11 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on October 14, 2016, 01:45:48 PM
Talk on twitter that Richmond are very close to flowering up the Prestia deal.

And Sydney are ready to swoop
:o

That'd just be classic Richmond tbqh
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: valkorum on October 14, 2016, 01:52:05 PM
Quote from: GoLions on October 14, 2016, 01:47:11 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on October 14, 2016, 01:45:48 PM
Talk on twitter that Richmond are very close to flowering up the Prestia deal.

And Sydney are ready to swoop
:o

That'd just be classic Richmond tbqh

And then use pick 6 on Richard Tambling
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: RaisyDaisy on October 14, 2016, 01:56:05 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on October 14, 2016, 01:45:48 PM
Talk on twitter that Richmond are very close to flowering up the Prestia deal.

And Sydney are ready to swoop

HS reporting that if he doesn't get to Tigerland he will stay on with the Suns
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: meow meow on October 14, 2016, 02:00:00 PM
Tom Mitchell officially a Hawk

14 + 52 for Mitchell + 57

Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: elephants on October 14, 2016, 02:02:22 PM
Hawks gone from 57 -> 52 -> 50... Look out Essendon, they're coming.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Big Mac on October 14, 2016, 02:04:16 PM
Quote from: elephants on October 14, 2016, 02:02:22 PM
Hawks gone from 57 -> 52 -> 50... Look out Essendon, they're coming.

54 -> 52 -> 57?
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: elephants on October 14, 2016, 02:20:16 PM
Quote from: Big  Mac on October 14, 2016, 02:04:16 PM
Quote from: elephants on October 14, 2016, 02:02:22 PM
Hawks gone from 57 -> 52 -> 50... Look out Essendon, they're coming.

54 -> 52 -> 57?

Mah bayd
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: enzedder on October 14, 2016, 02:37:22 PM
Quote from: enzedder on October 06, 2016, 07:35:49 AM
The following is a post from Jaxons on Saintsational. He is someone who has regularly posted trade ideas and progress with regards to the Saints over a number of years. He is no doubt close to the inner sanctum as he has the runs on the board to be believed.
With regards to Steele going for a second round pick....

"Will be this years pick 46 or next years second rounder, probably the latter.
We are also looking at other GWS players so that could change the deal and dynamics.
Steele looks likely but is not 100% just yet, and after Laverde nothing is done until it is done.
Early next week you will know about him.
We are very busy and looking at lots and lots, no different to other clubs however.
Am confident we will not pursue Hartlett further, asking price is too high on money and trade.
May reconsider if Port pay half his salary etc.
We want to get back into this years draft which is the right strategy.
And still pursuing a key tall.
If we get Steele and a tall back who is good and have 3 top 30 draft picks I will call that a very successful trade period.
We are still flirting with the idea of bringing in a big name without breaking our trade currency too much.
All can be done!"

So Steele will be a Saint, just a matter of what # pick.
The tall could be Corr who is said to have had a tour of facilities.
Hartlett can cross the Saints off the interested list at the going price.
And for the Saints to get an extra two picks in the top 30 than have presently and manage to keep #10 which Jaxons has previously alluded to the Saints will have to move some players on. He won't divulge who is being discussed because as he puts it, he has morals and won't discuss players at the club who need to be informed first.... which is fair enough.... but I'd suggest they are looking at trading one or more of Longer, Lonie, Templeton and Sinclair. The saints have four rucks, Hickey is by far our #1 ruck and Holmes has recently been given a contract and Pierce is developing well. Longer would be worth 20 something in the current climate. As for the other three they are all dynamic and creative small forwards with goal sense... three peas in a pod who could all go on and carve out good careers but who are all presently on the fringe at St.Kilda... we don't need all three.
Jaxons was on the money again.... foresaw the today's result 8 days ago.
Therefore Koby Stevens will be next.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: RiOtChEsS on October 14, 2016, 02:54:58 PM
LEWIS STILL WANTS OUT?

AFL.com.au has been told that Jordan Lewis and his management are still in discussions with the Demons about a trade this afternoon. It's understood the Hawthorn midfielder remains keen to be traded.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Purple 77 on October 14, 2016, 03:05:32 PM
Quote from: RiOtChEsS on October 14, 2016, 02:54:58 PM
LEWIS STILL WANTS OUT?

AFL.com.au has been told that Jordan Lewis and his management are still in discussions with the Demons about a trade this afternoon. It's understood the Hawthorn midfielder remains keen to be traded.

OH?!
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Mat0369 on October 14, 2016, 03:05:55 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on October 14, 2016, 01:45:48 PM
Talk on twitter that Richmond are very close to flowering up the Prestia deal.

And Sydney are ready to swoop

It said they no showed the meeting. Are they drunk?
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: JBs-Hawks on October 14, 2016, 03:07:31 PM
Why couldnt we turf lewis and keep smitch
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: powersuperkents on October 14, 2016, 03:10:41 PM
Quote from: TomK on October 14, 2016, 12:29:24 PM
Quote from: powersuperkents on October 14, 2016, 11:55:00 AM
Why are people denigrating Carlton in the Softie trade... Softie is the sook and Carlton have every right not to trade if the Crows aren't willing to satisfy what Carlton perceives to be the value of a former no. 1 draft pick and required player who is contracted for the next 3 years...

If anything, Adelaide are sooking because Carlton won't shaft themselves.

I know people say that "contracts don't mean anything", however, the definition remains;

"Contract - A legally binding promise or agreement"

If the term "legally binding" meant nothing in Australia, society would crumble...
How are we being sooks? Cause we aren't giving them a 22 year old forward who kicked 30 goals in his first year of senior football? Or cause we aren't giving them a 21 year old midfielder who averaged more touches in his third year than Softie has in every year? (I get they are different players but far out.) Or cause we aren't giving them a 22 year old player who was probably our best player against the Swans in the Semi and has improved every year on the list? And they are asking for anyone of these players, along with pick 13, it's not even worth a straight swap for Crouch or Gov! Don't forget they are also contracted ::)

Would you as a Port supporter give up Ollie Wines and Pick 9 for him? No, you wouldn't. Also Softie status as Number 1 pick means nothing anymore.

If it's true, and I doubt it is, that Carlton aren't 'answering our calls', how can you say they are not acting like a bunch of sooks cause one of their best wants to go home for family?
Yeah a bit of a bad call on the Crows being sooks because they haven't even complained in any sense whatsoever (they are conducting themselves very professionally and seem to not be bothered too much by the result - not like CMac & Freo last off-season).

The problem is that Carlton have all the leverage and they can therefore ask for the price they want. They will look to get the trade done but I think Adelaide knows that they will have to pay overs for Gibbs due to the contractual situation and if they truly back themselves to push of the premiership with Gibbs, they will do it.

Pick 13 & a player should get it done, however, Carlton would have to be idiots not to milk out as much value as they can (why I don't see pick 13 being enough, even though people could make a fair argument that it would be if Gibbs was not contracted).
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: RaisyDaisy on October 14, 2016, 03:23:39 PM
Quote from: JBs-Hawks on October 14, 2016, 03:07:31 PM
Why couldnt we turf lewis and keep smitch

Haha, mate of mine at work (Die Hard Hawk) just said the same thing to me 5 minutes ago lol
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: RiOtChEsS on October 14, 2016, 03:25:33 PM
a few seconds ago
PICKERING'S MELBOURNE MEETING

Damian Barrett is reporting on NAB AFL Trade Radio that Jordan Lewis's manager Liam Pickering was meeting with Demons' football manager Josh Mahoney this morning. 

Lewis still appears open to a move out of Hawthorn, but remember Hawthorn list manager Graham Wright this afternoon said Lewis would not be traded, even if it was his wish. 
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: LF on October 14, 2016, 03:28:34 PM
So happy that Smitch is officially an Eagle

http://m.hawthornfc.com.au/news/2016-10-14/sams-letter-to-fans
This letter he wrote to the fans is very good and might stop some of the bullshower,clueless comments I've read.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: elephants on October 14, 2016, 03:31:10 PM
Never in my wildest dreams thought I would like Sam Mitchell!
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Purple 77 on October 14, 2016, 03:37:06 PM
Gee, I'm loving this Lewis drama!

I think I've decided I'd like him to come to Melbourne  :-X I think, given our age profile, he'd fit, and his leadership and experience could be a real asset for us.

But, if we don't get him, then I guess we miss out on a slow, one-paced, old midfielder :P
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Jukes on October 14, 2016, 03:41:42 PM
It's taken a couple years but good to see the iggs have finally replaced Beau Waters in that super-thug role

That knee finishing move tho
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: RiOtChEsS on October 14, 2016, 03:42:19 PM
Quote from: Purple 77 on October 14, 2016, 03:37:06 PM
Gee, I'm loving this Lewis drama!

I think I've decided I'd like him to come to Melbourne  :-X I think, given our age profile, he'd fit, and his leadership and experience could be a real asset for us.

But, if we don't get him, then I guess we miss out on a slow, one-paced, old midfielder :P
yeah i like him too, doesnt fit our criteria atm but i think its a good pickup for a team on the cusp
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: elephants on October 14, 2016, 03:42:38 PM
Probably bs but jesus...

A source close to the Kangaroos told WAtoday Goldstein wants out of the Roos because of a personal issue and was seriously considering moving west.
The Eagles would have to do some serious juggling with their salary cap in the next few days to secure the Kangaroos giant.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: LF on October 14, 2016, 03:44:34 PM
Quote from: elephants on October 14, 2016, 03:42:38 PM
Probably bs but jesus...

A source close to the Kangaroos told WAtoday Goldstein wants out of the Roos because of a personal issue and was seriously considering moving west.
The Eagles would have to do some serious juggling with their salary cap in the next few days to secure the Kangaroos giant.

wtf  :o
This surely is bullshower
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: PowerBug on October 14, 2016, 04:19:30 PM
Alright then I have another idea. Let's just re draft the entire pool of AFL players from the beginning, where clubs choose where clubs can nominate 4 clubs and only those 4 clubs can draft that player.

Or maybe you can do that primary school things where every player picks a buddy, and then those two pick another two, and so on until you get enough for each team to be covered ;D That way everyone can play with their best friends and live in the state they want to live in
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: jvalles69 on October 14, 2016, 04:46:01 PM
Quote from: LF on October 14, 2016, 03:44:34 PM
Quote from: elephants on October 14, 2016, 03:42:38 PM
Probably bs but jesus...

A source close to the Kangaroos told WAtoday Goldstein wants out of the Roos because of a personal issue and was seriously considering moving west.
The Eagles would have to do some serious juggling with their salary cap in the next few days to secure the Kangaroos giant.

wtf  :o
This surely is bullshower

Surely not?  Have heard someone say that if Nic Nat was cotton balled for the entire season then we could fit Goldy into the salary cap.  Is this true?
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: RaisyDaisy on October 14, 2016, 04:49:05 PM
Sounds like absolute BS, but I'll play along just for a second

Goldy + Smitch = Flag

Not gonna happen though
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: valkorum on October 14, 2016, 04:51:41 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on October 14, 2016, 04:49:05 PM
Sounds like absolute BS, but I'll play along just for a second

Goldy + Smitch = Flag

Not gonna happen though

And then what do you do when you have both NicNat and Goldstein
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Holz on October 14, 2016, 04:59:02 PM
If i lose boomer and goldy in the same year ill probably tilt and follow eagles.

a NN for goldy deal makes somewhat sense if north want to rebuild, but goldy is still the best ruck in the comp when fully healthy.

If it involves lycett i will probably tilt, the only possible solution is going Daw Brown combo with Preues long term.

if it were to happen it would probably be 12 for Goldy I would assume and then eagles probably would have to add something extra.

as much as i would like 11 and 12 i would like goldy more.




Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: SydneyRox on October 14, 2016, 05:06:48 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on October 14, 2016, 04:49:05 PM
Sounds like absolute BS, but I'll play along just for a second

Goldy + Smitch = Flag

Not gonna happen though

How about WC trade SMitch to NM for Goldy!!

Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: LF on October 14, 2016, 05:06:48 PM
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Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: JBs-Hawks on October 14, 2016, 05:10:12 PM
Quote from: Holz on October 14, 2016, 04:59:02 PM
If i lose boomer and goldy in the same year ill probably tilt and follow eagles.

a NN for goldy deal makes somewhat sense if north want to rebuild, but goldy is still the best ruck in the comp when fully healthy.

If it involves lycett i will probably tilt, the only possible solution is going Daw Brown combo with Preues long term.

if it were to happen it would probably be 12 for Goldy I would assume and then eagles probably would have to add something extra.

as much as i would like 11 and 12 i would like goldy more.

Gawn is #1 m8
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: LF on October 14, 2016, 05:18:37 PM
Travis King ‏@TravisKing  5m5 minutes ago
Full deal.

Hawks get picks 10 and 68.

Saints get 2017 first-round pick, and picks 23 and 36 this year.


NAB AFL Trade Radio Retweeted
Travis King ‏@TravisKing  7m7 minutes ago
Hawks have traded picks to get hold of St Kilda's pick 10. Crucial to get Jaeger deal done. Saints receive '17 1st-round pick.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: valkorum on October 14, 2016, 05:21:26 PM
Quote from: LF on October 14, 2016, 05:18:37 PM
Travis King ‏@TravisKing  5m5 minutes ago
Full deal.

Hawks get picks 10 and 68.

Saints get 2017 first-round pick, and picks 23 and 36 this year.


NAB AFL Trade Radio Retweeted
Travis King ‏@TravisKing  7m7 minutes ago
Hawks have traded picks to get hold of St Kilda's pick 10. Crucial to get Jaeger deal done. Saints receive '17 1st-round pick.

Feels to me that Saints lose in this deal
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: PowerBug on October 14, 2016, 05:23:55 PM
Quote from: valkorum on October 14, 2016, 05:21:26 PM
Quote from: LF on October 14, 2016, 05:18:37 PM
Travis King ‏@TravisKing  5m5 minutes ago
Full deal.

Hawks get picks 10 and 68.

Saints get 2017 first-round pick, and picks 23 and 36 this year.


NAB AFL Trade Radio Retweeted
Travis King ‏@TravisKing  7m7 minutes ago
Hawks have traded picks to get hold of St Kilda's pick 10. Crucial to get Jaeger deal done. Saints receive '17 1st-round pick.

Feels to me that Saints lose in this deal
If the Hawks first pick next year is Pick 10 or high they certainly won't have!
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: TomK on October 14, 2016, 05:24:58 PM
I reckon the Saints win that, basically downgrade their 1st rounder to next year by 8 positions at most and turn 68 into two second rounders.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: kilbluff1985 on October 14, 2016, 05:26:10 PM
doesn't to me the draft is deep this year so 23 is still a good pick

Hawks 1st pick next year could be 10-14
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: enzedder on October 14, 2016, 05:31:49 PM
Quote from: TomK on October 14, 2016, 05:24:58 PM
I reckon the Saints win that, basically downgrade their 1st rounder to next year by 8 positions at most and turn 68 into two second rounders.
Could be a goer. Jaxons has said Saints would like 3 top 30 picks... this is along those lines and with Steele's second rounder gone next year this keeps us in a strong position for 2017.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Torpedo10 on October 14, 2016, 05:32:03 PM
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on October 14, 2016, 05:26:10 PM
doesn't to me the draft is deep this year so 23 is still a good pick

Hawks 1st pick next year could be 10-14
Where did you hear the draft was deep?  :P
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: meow meow on October 14, 2016, 05:35:13 PM
We'll take 23 for Koby thanks.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: shaker on October 14, 2016, 05:37:06 PM
Hawks seem to just keep getting things done no wonder they have been so successful , other clubs need to take a good hard look and learn from it
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: RaisyDaisy on October 14, 2016, 05:49:01 PM
Quote from: meow meow on October 14, 2016, 05:35:13 PM
We'll take 23 for Koby thanks.

This ain't WXV! :P

3rd rounder more than enough for him
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Ricochet on October 14, 2016, 06:29:12 PM
Lol Goldy

Just saw he might have played up on his missus, and that's where the rumours of him leaving North have come from
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: PowerBug on October 14, 2016, 06:31:43 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on October 14, 2016, 06:29:12 PM
Lol Goldy

Just saw he might have played up on his missus, and that's where the rumours of him leaving North have come from
If this is true:

Respect for the man = GONE
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: valkorum on October 14, 2016, 06:34:44 PM
QuoteKirsty Hopes @KirstGoldstein

Bye #madeyourbed #personalissuesmyass
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Rusty00 on October 14, 2016, 06:36:56 PM
Quote from: valkorum on October 14, 2016, 06:34:44 PM
QuoteKirsty Hopes @KirstGoldstein

Bye #madeyourbed #personalissuesmyass
This trade period has had everything!
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: LF on October 14, 2016, 06:42:08 PM
Wonder if he did a Carey
Any way can't see it going down well with the team mates regardless
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: jvalles69 on October 14, 2016, 06:54:06 PM
Quote from: PowerBug on October 14, 2016, 06:31:43 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on October 14, 2016, 06:29:12 PM
Lol Goldy

Just saw he might have played up on his missus, and that's where the rumours of him leaving North have come from
If this is true:

Respect for the man = GONE

Anoyone see him on the footy show when they pranked him with old lady crawf?  You could tell he was an absolute cow from that episode.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: TomK on October 14, 2016, 06:59:53 PM
Quote from: PowerBug on October 14, 2016, 06:31:43 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on October 14, 2016, 06:29:12 PM
Lol Goldy

Just saw he might have played up on his missus, and that's where the rumours of him leaving North have come from
If this is true:

Respect for the man = GONE
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Pkbaldy on October 14, 2016, 07:18:16 PM
Cheating on a missus with a great set of cans... Foolish man.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Mat0369 on October 14, 2016, 07:22:23 PM
Say it is true, how much of a bish do you have to be to cheat on your missus and then move interstate?
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Pkbaldy on October 14, 2016, 07:24:55 PM
Quote from: Mat0369 on October 14, 2016, 07:22:23 PM
Say it is true, how much of a bish do you have to be to cheat on your missus and then move interstate?

Well she's probably told him to flower off. Which is rightly so.

And which out of WCE and Freo can afford his 900k-ish contract??
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: LF on October 14, 2016, 07:26:01 PM
Quote from: Pkbaldy on October 14, 2016, 07:24:55 PM
Quote from: Mat0369 on October 14, 2016, 07:22:23 PM
Say it is true, how much of a bish do you have to be to cheat on your missus and then move interstate?

Well she's probably told him to flower off. Which is rightly so.

And which out of WCE and Freo can afford his 900k-ish contract??

flower him,don't want him at Eagles
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Levi434 on October 14, 2016, 07:33:50 PM
Goldy for Nicholls make it happen GC
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Mat0369 on October 14, 2016, 07:36:28 PM
Quote from: Pkbaldy on October 14, 2016, 07:24:55 PM
Quote from: Mat0369 on October 14, 2016, 07:22:23 PM
Say it is true, how much of a bish do you have to be to cheat on your missus and then move interstate?

Well she's probably told him to flower off. Which is rightly so.

And which out of WCE and Freo can afford his 900k-ish contract??

Even then,  moving interstate? It's not like he couldn't go to Geelong or Hawthorn?  :P
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Ricochet on October 14, 2016, 07:39:05 PM
From memory its similar reason Christensen moved
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: LF on October 14, 2016, 07:39:58 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on October 14, 2016, 07:39:05 PM
From memory its similar reason Christensen moved

Yep his name popped straight into my mind haha
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Bill Manspeaker on October 14, 2016, 07:48:24 PM
Quote from: valkorum on October 14, 2016, 05:21:26 PM
Quote from: LF on October 14, 2016, 05:18:37 PM
Travis King ‏@TravisKing  5m5 minutes ago
Full deal.

Hawks get picks 10 and 68.

Saints get 2017 first-round pick, and picks 23 and 36 this year.


NAB AFL Trade Radio Retweeted
Travis King ‏@TravisKing  7m7 minutes ago
Hawks have traded picks to get hold of St Kilda's pick 10. Crucial to get Jaeger deal done. Saints receive '17 1st-round pick.

Feels to me that Saints lose in this deal
:o ???

we absolutely smashed it out of the park! you beauty! there's still more up Ameet's sleaves too apparently! ;D

*sleeves  ;D  very excited!
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Bill Manspeaker on October 14, 2016, 07:49:46 PM
Quote from: meow meow on October 14, 2016, 05:35:13 PM
We'll take 23 for Koby thanks.
you'll be gettin 50odd at best  8)
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: JBs-Hawks on October 14, 2016, 08:03:51 PM
Quote from: LF on October 14, 2016, 07:39:58 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on October 14, 2016, 07:39:05 PM
From memory its similar reason Christensen moved

Yep his name popped straight into my mind haha

Yea but he moved cos he put one through lonergans misso
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Mat0369 on October 14, 2016, 08:12:10 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on October 14, 2016, 07:39:05 PM
From memory its similar reason Christensen moved

I was having this convo with the someone on Monday, he apparently knocked someone up.and his missus cracked it.and moved them out of state
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Grazz on October 14, 2016, 08:23:43 PM
 thetipsman Retweeted
Afl Trade Talk ‏@AFLTradeGuru  1h1 hour ago
Todd goldstein looks set to leave north after cheating on his wife with a person involved in the club huge news #NABTradeRadio #AFLTrades
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: LF on October 14, 2016, 09:18:06 PM
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2016-10-14/eagles-confirm-interest-in-homesick-dog-marcus-adams

WEST Coast is interested in exploring a deal with the Western Bulldogs to secure mature-age defender Marcus Adams.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: kilbluff1985 on October 14, 2016, 09:43:23 PM
North bottom 4 next year lol
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Holz on October 14, 2016, 09:46:20 PM
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on October 14, 2016, 09:43:23 PM
North bottom 4 next year lol

still above essendon
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: kilbluff1985 on October 14, 2016, 09:50:38 PM
Quote from: Holz on October 14, 2016, 09:46:20 PM
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on October 14, 2016, 09:43:23 PM
North bottom 4 next year lol

still above essendon

lol our list is looking way better than yours
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: iZander on October 14, 2016, 09:50:53 PM
Quote from: Holz on October 14, 2016, 09:46:20 PM
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on October 14, 2016, 09:43:23 PM
North bottom 4 next year lol

still above essendon

You'd wanna hope
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Koop on October 14, 2016, 09:59:06 PM
Quote from: Bill Manspeaker on October 14, 2016, 07:48:24 PM
Quote from: valkorum on October 14, 2016, 05:21:26 PM
Quote from: LF on October 14, 2016, 05:18:37 PM
Travis King ‏@TravisKing  5m5 minutes ago
Full deal.

Hawks get picks 10 and 68.

Saints get 2017 first-round pick, and picks 23 and 36 this year.


NAB AFL Trade Radio Retweeted
Travis King ‏@TravisKing  7m7 minutes ago
Hawks have traded picks to get hold of St Kilda's pick 10. Crucial to get Jaeger deal done. Saints receive '17 1st-round pick.

Feels to me that Saints lose in this deal
:o ???

we absolutely smashed it out of the park! you beauty! there's still more up Ameet's sleaves too apparently! ;D

*sleeves  ;D  very excited!

Picking up another first rounder to have a crack at Fyfey next year me thinks ;)
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Bill Manspeaker on October 14, 2016, 10:02:56 PM
Quote from: Koop on October 14, 2016, 09:59:06 PM
Quote from: Bill Manspeaker on October 14, 2016, 07:48:24 PM
Quote from: valkorum on October 14, 2016, 05:21:26 PM
Quote from: LF on October 14, 2016, 05:18:37 PM
Travis King ‏@TravisKing  5m5 minutes ago
Full deal.

Hawks get picks 10 and 68.

Saints get 2017 first-round pick, and picks 23 and 36 this year.


NAB AFL Trade Radio Retweeted
Travis King ‏@TravisKing  7m7 minutes ago
Hawks have traded picks to get hold of St Kilda's pick 10. Crucial to get Jaeger deal done. Saints receive '17 1st-round pick.

Feels to me that Saints lose in this deal
:o ???

we absolutely smashed it out of the park! you beauty! there's still more up Ameet's sleaves too apparently! ;D

*sleeves  ;D  very excited!

Picking up another first rounder to have a crack at Fyfey next year me thinks ;)
reckon we'll have a red hot crack mate! is Fyfe a free agent next year?
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Purple 77 on October 14, 2016, 10:07:58 PM
Quote from: Bill Manspeaker on October 14, 2016, 10:02:56 PM
Quote from: Koop on October 14, 2016, 09:59:06 PM
Quote from: Bill Manspeaker on October 14, 2016, 07:48:24 PM
Quote from: valkorum on October 14, 2016, 05:21:26 PM
Quote from: LF on October 14, 2016, 05:18:37 PM
Travis King ‏@TravisKing  5m5 minutes ago
Full deal.

Hawks get picks 10 and 68.

Saints get 2017 first-round pick, and picks 23 and 36 this year.


NAB AFL Trade Radio Retweeted
Travis King ‏@TravisKing  7m7 minutes ago
Hawks have traded picks to get hold of St Kilda's pick 10. Crucial to get Jaeger deal done. Saints receive '17 1st-round pick.

Feels to me that Saints lose in this deal
:o ???

we absolutely smashed it out of the park! you beauty! there's still more up Ameet's sleaves too apparently! ;D

*sleeves  ;D  very excited!

Picking up another first rounder to have a crack at Fyfey next year me thinks ;)
reckon we'll have a red hot crack mate! is Fyfe a free agent next year?

Hey hey hey, Fyfe wants to get midfield service from the best tap ruckman in the league St Kilda fans  ;) Melbourne called first dibs on Free Agent Fyfe :P

#RevengeForFreoHoganClaims
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Holz on October 14, 2016, 10:10:08 PM
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on October 14, 2016, 09:50:38 PM
Quote from: Holz on October 14, 2016, 09:46:20 PM
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on October 14, 2016, 09:43:23 PM
North bottom 4 next year lol

still above essendon

lol our list is looking way better than yours

gifted pick 1 helps, but both lists are pretty poor.

Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Torpedo10 on October 14, 2016, 10:15:23 PM
Quote from: Holz on October 14, 2016, 10:10:08 PM
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on October 14, 2016, 09:50:38 PM
Quote from: Holz on October 14, 2016, 09:46:20 PM
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on October 14, 2016, 09:43:23 PM
North bottom 4 next year lol

still above essendon

lol our list is looking way better than yours

gifted pick 1 helps, but both lists are pretty poor.


The only things we are lacking are a great ruckman and a star tall forward, and Daniher could become that in 2017.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Holz on October 14, 2016, 10:18:00 PM
Quote from: Torpedo10 on October 14, 2016, 10:15:23 PM
Quote from: Holz on October 14, 2016, 10:10:08 PM
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on October 14, 2016, 09:50:38 PM
Quote from: Holz on October 14, 2016, 09:46:20 PM
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on October 14, 2016, 09:43:23 PM
North bottom 4 next year lol

still above essendon

lol our list is looking way better than yours

gifted pick 1 helps, but both lists are pretty poor.


The only things we are lacking are a great ruckman and a star tall forward, and Daniher could become that in 2017.

the only thing missing for what?

You could get Gawn and JJK and still do nothing
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Purple 77 on October 14, 2016, 10:18:16 PM
Quote from: Torpedo10 on October 14, 2016, 10:15:23 PM
Quote from: Holz on October 14, 2016, 10:10:08 PM
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on October 14, 2016, 09:50:38 PM
Quote from: Holz on October 14, 2016, 09:46:20 PM
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on October 14, 2016, 09:43:23 PM
North bottom 4 next year lol

still above essendon

lol our list is looking way better than yours

gifted pick 1 helps, but both lists are pretty poor.


The only things we are lacking are a great ruckman and a star tall forward, and Daniher could become that in 2017.

Haha  ;D
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: iZander on October 14, 2016, 10:23:16 PM
Quote from: Purple 77 on October 14, 2016, 10:07:58 PM
Quote from: Bill Manspeaker on October 14, 2016, 10:02:56 PM
Quote from: Koop on October 14, 2016, 09:59:06 PM
Quote from: Bill Manspeaker on October 14, 2016, 07:48:24 PM
Quote from: valkorum on October 14, 2016, 05:21:26 PM
Quote from: LF on October 14, 2016, 05:18:37 PM
Travis King ‏@TravisKing  5m5 minutes ago
Full deal.

Hawks get picks 10 and 68.

Saints get 2017 first-round pick, and picks 23 and 36 this year.


NAB AFL Trade Radio Retweeted
Travis King ‏@TravisKing  7m7 minutes ago
Hawks have traded picks to get hold of St Kilda's pick 10. Crucial to get Jaeger deal done. Saints receive '17 1st-round pick.

Feels to me that Saints lose in this deal
:o ???

we absolutely smashed it out of the park! you beauty! there's still more up Ameet's sleaves too apparently! ;D

*sleeves  ;D  very excited!

Picking up another first rounder to have a crack at Fyfey next year me thinks ;)
reckon we'll have a red hot crack mate! is Fyfe a free agent next year?

Hey hey hey, Fyfe wants to get midfield service from the best tap ruckman in the league St Kilda fans  ;) Melbourne called first dibs on Free Agent Fyfe :P

#RevengeForFreoHoganClaims

Best ruckman in the comp hey...i believe that means he would go where Tom Hickey is?
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: kilbluff1985 on October 14, 2016, 10:24:11 PM
lol Holz delusional

Essendon will be knocking on the door of the top 8
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: TomK on October 14, 2016, 10:31:25 PM
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on October 14, 2016, 10:24:11 PM
lol Holz delusional

Essendon will be knocking on the door of the top 8
Wouldn't go that far but agree they'll finish above North
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Bill Manspeaker on October 14, 2016, 10:34:03 PM
Quote from: iZander on October 14, 2016, 10:23:16 PM
Quote from: Purple 77 on October 14, 2016, 10:07:58 PM
Quote from: Bill Manspeaker on October 14, 2016, 10:02:56 PM
Quote from: Koop on October 14, 2016, 09:59:06 PM
Quote from: Bill Manspeaker on October 14, 2016, 07:48:24 PM
Quote from: valkorum on October 14, 2016, 05:21:26 PM
Quote from: LF on October 14, 2016, 05:18:37 PM
Travis King ‏@TravisKing  5m5 minutes ago
Full deal.

Hawks get picks 10 and 68.

Saints get 2017 first-round pick, and picks 23 and 36 this year.


NAB AFL Trade Radio Retweeted
Travis King ‏@TravisKing  7m7 minutes ago
Hawks have traded picks to get hold of St Kilda's pick 10. Crucial to get Jaeger deal done. Saints receive '17 1st-round pick.

Feels to me that Saints lose in this deal
:o ???

we absolutely smashed it out of the park! you beauty! there's still more up Ameet's sleaves too apparently! ;D

*sleeves  ;D  very excited!

Picking up another first rounder to have a crack at Fyfey next year me thinks ;)
reckon we'll have a red hot crack mate! is Fyfe a free agent next year?

Hey hey hey, Fyfe wants to get midfield service from the best tap ruckman in the league St Kilda fans  ;) Melbourne called first dibs on Free Agent Fyfe :P

#RevengeForFreoHoganClaims

Best ruckman in the comp hey...i believe that means he would go where Tom Hickey is?
I knew I liked you Zoltan 8) (yes you are now Zoltan) 8)
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Money Shot on October 14, 2016, 10:48:16 PM
We all know that Kreuzer and Phillips are the most potent ruck duo in the game ... :-[
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: powersuperkents on October 14, 2016, 10:59:24 PM
Has everyone forgotten about McKernan!  :P 
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: kilbluff1985 on October 14, 2016, 11:03:38 PM
Quote from: powersuperkents on October 14, 2016, 10:59:24 PM
Has everyone forgotten about McKernan!  :P

yes
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Holz on October 15, 2016, 02:40:58 AM
Quote from: TomK on October 14, 2016, 10:31:25 PM
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on October 14, 2016, 10:24:11 PM
lol Holz delusional

Essendon will be knocking on the door of the top 8
Wouldn't go that far but agree they'll finish above North

Might have this wrong but I'll back against the loser team that hasnt won a final in 12 years and has made it 3 times.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Grazz on October 15, 2016, 02:53:48 AM
Quote from: Holz on October 15, 2016, 02:40:58 AM
Quote from: TomK on October 14, 2016, 10:31:25 PM
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on October 14, 2016, 10:24:11 PM
lol Holz delusional

Essendon will be knocking on the door of the top 8
Wouldn't go that far but agree they'll finish above North

Might have this wrong but I'll back against the loser team that hasnt won a final in 12 years and has made it 3 times.

You're a brave man Holz.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: enzedder on October 15, 2016, 06:20:39 AM
Probably missing someone but North 2017 will be without Boomer, Dal Santo, Petrie, Firrito, Wells and potentially Goldy and are looking at sliding south quickly. Essendon on the other hand will be with a few extras in 2017 and have fast tracked their list. Essendon should fare better next year for mine. Goldy going is a disaster.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: enzedder on October 15, 2016, 06:29:23 AM
As for the Saints Hawks pick swaps I cannot believe that some think Hawthorn won in that exchange. St.Kilda saw the Hawks were desperate and swooped in for the taking.
St.Kilda gave up one 1st round pick & one 4th round pick for one 1st round pick & two 2nd round picks.
Killing it so far.


Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: kilbluff1985 on October 15, 2016, 08:03:46 AM
Holz do you want to do a name change bet

whoever finishes lower gets their name changed for a week
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: elephants on October 15, 2016, 10:37:54 AM
Quote from: Pkbaldy on October 14, 2016, 07:18:16 PM
Cheating on a missus with a great set of cans... Foolish man.

Opens new tab... "kirsty goldstein"
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: RaisyDaisy on October 15, 2016, 10:39:57 AM
Listening to Fev this morning on the radio, and his source is someone deep in hawthorn

Says Lewis is absolutely filthy that they all took pay cuts for years and now Titch, Vickery and JOM are getting what they're getting

Titch 650k, Vickery 500k and JOM 450k but back ended big

Says Lewis 100% wants out, and wants to be at Melbourne, and it will happen next week
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Holz on October 15, 2016, 11:01:47 AM
Quote from: enzedder on October 15, 2016, 06:20:39 AM
Probably missing someone but North 2017 will be without Boomer, Dal Santo, Petrie, Firrito, Wells and potentially Goldy and are looking at sliding south quickly. Essendon on the other hand will be with a few extras in 2017 and have fast tracked their list. Essendon should fare better next year for mine. Goldy going is a disaster.

First up i think Goldy will stay.

People cant dispute that North got hit very very hard by injuries and never recovered. The team was undefeated then just lost a few close games to the top teams with key players out then completely lost it.

A healthy Mason Wood will be a big big in.
Higgins missed round 8 onwards
Ben Jacobs missed round 8 onwards and not sure if he plays but he was an elite tagger in the 15 finals
Luke Mcdonald missed pretty much round 11 onwards
Sam Wright missed round 11 onwards
Lachy Hansen was unhealthy pretty much all of the year.

Kayne Turner, Jed Anderson and Taylor Garner all missed loads of games and if just 2 are healthy they will compete for the role to replace boomer.

Petrie was a shell of himself so no loss, Firrito was a solid player but no star

Boomer NDS Wells of course are big losses

but there are injured players as i said coming in
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Purple 77 on October 15, 2016, 11:03:26 AM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on October 15, 2016, 10:39:57 AM
Listening to Fev this morning on the radio, and his source is someone deep in hawthorn

Says Lewis is absolutely filthy that they all took pay cuts for years and now Titch, Vickery and JOM are getting what they're getting

Titch 650k, Vickery 500k and JOM 450k but back ended big

Says Lewis 100% wants out, and wants to be at Melbourne, and it will happen next week

:-X

Been reading Demonland basically non-stop for the past 24 hours, and credible users on that site that have "sources" (have been right on every single one of our list decisions so far this year in advance)  within the club, are saying the same thing.

I think I'm now starting to REALLY like the idea of Lewis at Melbourne
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Purple 77 on October 15, 2016, 11:07:46 AM
Speaking of which, a bit of talk at Demonland saying Aaron Vandenberg has attracted some interest this trade period. But that rumour has much less credibility IMO
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: JBs-Hawks on October 15, 2016, 11:08:53 AM
Quote from: Holz on October 15, 2016, 11:01:47 AM
Quote from: enzedder on October 15, 2016, 06:20:39 AM
Probably missing someone but North 2017 will be without Boomer, Dal Santo, Petrie, Firrito, Wells and potentially Goldy and are looking at sliding south quickly. Essendon on the other hand will be with a few extras in 2017 and have fast tracked their list. Essendon should fare better next year for mine. Goldy going is a disaster.

First up i think Goldy will stay.

People cant dispute that North got hit very very hard by injuries and never recovered. The team was undefeated then just lost a few close games to the top teams with key players out then completely lost it.

A healthy Mason Wood will be a big big in.
Higgins missed round 8 onwards
Ben Jacobs missed round 8 onwards and not sure if he plays but he was an elite tagger in the 15 finals
Luke Mcdonald missed pretty much round 11 onwards
Sam Wright missed round 11 onwards
Lachy Hansen was unhealthy pretty much all of the year.

Kayne Turner, Jed Anderson and Taylor Garner all missed loads of games and if just 2 are healthy they will compete for the role to replace boomer.

Petrie was a shell of himself so no loss, Firrito was a solid player but no star

Boomer NDS Wells of course are big losses

but there are injured players as i said coming in

North are cooked.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Purple 77 on October 15, 2016, 11:45:43 AM
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Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: DazBurg on October 15, 2016, 12:06:32 PM
i said this on chat last night

(no sources nothing just saying)

wouldn't surprise me for hawks to send lewis to demons
then go and get Goldy :P

(p.s no idea how'd they 'd manage it trade wise etc just saying could see them doing it...haha)
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Ricochet on October 15, 2016, 12:22:24 PM
Hamling has decided to join Freo ;D
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Big Mac on October 15, 2016, 12:24:15 PM
Quote from: Purple 77 on October 15, 2016, 11:07:46 AM
Speaking of which, a bit of talk at Demonland saying Aaron Vandenberg has attracted some interest this trade period. But that rumour has much less credibility IMO

Wouldn't be the biggest loss

But he could be a very good half forward if he gets a bit of consistency in his game
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Gandalf123 on October 15, 2016, 12:24:52 PM
Ole freo gettin a little bit done
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: powersuperkents on October 15, 2016, 12:32:47 PM
Quote from: enzedder on October 15, 2016, 06:29:23 AM
As for the Saints Hawks pick swaps I cannot believe that some think Hawthorn won in that exchange. St.Kilda saw the Hawks were desperate and swooped in for the taking.
St.Kilda gave up one 1st round pick & one 4th round pick for one 1st round pick & two 2nd round picks.
Killing it so far.
+1

What I've noticed is that the Saints like to mitigate risk

I.e. rather than invest in one youngster (pick 10) they are investing in multiple youngsters (draft busts are common in AFL as well).

Hawks don't care about draft picks at this point in the club's cycle, Saints are making the right decision going potential quantity over potential quality. You should only aim for a top 5 pick if it's for a kpp, an obviously dominant mid or a unique type of player. Other than that, the more 1st & 2nd round picks, the better.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: TomK on October 15, 2016, 01:19:10 PM
Quote from: Purple 77 on October 15, 2016, 11:03:26 AM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on October 15, 2016, 10:39:57 AM
Listening to Fev this morning on the radio, and his source is someone deep in hawthorn

Says Lewis is absolutely filthy that they all took pay cuts for years and now Titch, Vickery and JOM are getting what they're getting

Titch 650k, Vickery 500k and JOM 450k but back ended big

Says Lewis 100% wants out, and wants to be at Melbourne, and it will happen next week

:-X

Been reading Demonland basically non-stop for the past 24 hours, and credible users on that site that have "sources" (have been right on every single one of our list decisions so far this year in advance)  within the club, are saying the same thing.

I think I'm now starting to REALLY like the idea of Lewis at Melbourne
Why couldn't you guys have taken Scott Thompson instead :P :-[
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Purple 77 on October 15, 2016, 02:11:00 PM
Quote from: TomK on October 15, 2016, 01:19:10 PM
Quote from: Purple 77 on October 15, 2016, 11:03:26 AM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on October 15, 2016, 10:39:57 AM
Listening to Fev this morning on the radio, and his source is someone deep in hawthorn

Says Lewis is absolutely filthy that they all took pay cuts for years and now Titch, Vickery and JOM are getting what they're getting

Titch 650k, Vickery 500k and JOM 450k but back ended big

Says Lewis 100% wants out, and wants to be at Melbourne, and it will happen next week

:-X

Been reading Demonland basically non-stop for the past 24 hours, and credible users on that site that have "sources" (have been right on every single one of our list decisions so far this year in advance)  within the club, are saying the same thing.

I think I'm now starting to REALLY like the idea of Lewis at Melbourne
Why couldn't you guys have taken Scott Thompson instead :P :-[

It wasn't through a lack of trying :P you guys wouldn't let him go!  ;)
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: TomK on October 15, 2016, 02:28:45 PM
Quote from: Purple 77 on October 15, 2016, 02:11:00 PM
Quote from: TomK on October 15, 2016, 01:19:10 PM
Quote from: Purple 77 on October 15, 2016, 11:03:26 AM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on October 15, 2016, 10:39:57 AM
Listening to Fev this morning on the radio, and his source is someone deep in hawthorn

Says Lewis is absolutely filthy that they all took pay cuts for years and now Titch, Vickery and JOM are getting what they're getting

Titch 650k, Vickery 500k and JOM 450k but back ended big

Says Lewis 100% wants out, and wants to be at Melbourne, and it will happen next week

:-X

Been reading Demonland basically non-stop for the past 24 hours, and credible users on that site that have "sources" (have been right on every single one of our list decisions so far this year in advance)  within the club, are saying the same thing.

I think I'm now starting to REALLY like the idea of Lewis at Melbourne
Why couldn't you guys have taken Scott Thompson instead :P :-[

It wasn't through a lack of trying :P you guys wouldn't let him go!  ;)
flowering Adelaide :P
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Purple 77 on October 15, 2016, 02:37:30 PM
Lol, I know each time I say this, it loses more meaning.

BUT! On Demonland, a poster whose posted 1000+ posts and has a good reputation from other posters, just said this:

QuoteAbsolute can not believe the news I've got this morning.

Brisbane and Melbourne have agreed on handshake that rockliff will come to Melbourne for Dunn. We will give our first rounder for next year to Brisbane (which we bank on being 9-13) for Brisbane priority pick this year (19) as well as turning our second round pick (29) into a pick in mid 30s, which Brisbane are trying to get their hands on before end of trade week.

This is also delaying the Hibberd deal.

Brisbane will pay a portion of the salary. The only things holding this deal up are Brisbane not having a mid 30s pick yet, and rockliff not having results from a medical back yet.

Melbourne in- rockliff, end of round 1 pick (19); mid 30s pick.

Out, Dunn, 2017 Rd 1 pick (9-13) 2016 Rd 2 pick) 29

Source- both the new Brisbane football operations manager; and my uncle, fitzroy great, Brisbane scout and father of current afl captain. Oh and for any sceptics which I'm sure there are, this is out of the mouth of both.

Well, this fits in with delaying the Hibberd deal. There was a reason it was getting delayed, and it sure as hell has got nothing to do with Jordan Lewis IMO.

Eh. Take it with a grain of salt. I don't REALLY believe this one, but interesting all the same
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Purple 77 on October 15, 2016, 02:44:44 PM
I'm mentioning these rumours from Demonland now, because they did catch on to Lewis on Monday morning, days before it got to the media, and I didn't believe it so I didn't say anything :P. But funnily enough, they do get most things right. Well, these particular posters at least.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: TomK on October 15, 2016, 02:46:22 PM
Rockliff and Lewis! Wow, watch out for the Dees if it happens! Although I didn't think they were lacking in the middle.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: fanTCfool on October 15, 2016, 02:50:17 PM
Rockliff, Lewis, Jones, Viney and the #1 Ruck in the Comp?  :o
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: meow meow on October 15, 2016, 03:06:11 PM
So how do you get Hibberd?
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: meow meow on October 15, 2016, 03:07:31 PM
Who would capitan Brissy? Beams or Zorko? Harris? Bastinac?
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: iZander on October 15, 2016, 03:09:37 PM
Quote from: meow meow on October 15, 2016, 03:07:31 PM
Who would capitan Brissy? Bastinac

Obviously
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: LF on October 15, 2016, 03:10:59 PM
Quote from: iZander on October 15, 2016, 03:09:37 PM
Quote from: meow meow on October 15, 2016, 03:07:31 PM
Who would capitan Brissy? Bastinac

Obviously

GOAT
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Purple 77 on October 15, 2016, 03:21:51 PM
Quote from: meow meow on October 15, 2016, 03:06:11 PM
So how do you get Hibberd?

Don't know :P

I'd say with either the mid 30s pick we get from Brisbane (yeah, nah I think Dodoro won't let that happen), or if there's truth in this Vandenberg rumour, package him up with that pick to get a slight upgrade which would appease the Bombers. Failing that, manufacture Pick 19 to get us Hibberd.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Scrads on October 15, 2016, 03:22:59 PM
Quote from: Holz on October 15, 2016, 11:01:47 AM
Quote from: enzedder on October 15, 2016, 06:20:39 AM
Probably missing someone but North 2017 will be without Boomer, Dal Santo, Petrie, Firrito, Wells and potentially Goldy and are looking at sliding south quickly. Essendon on the other hand will be with a few extras in 2017 and have fast tracked their list. Essendon should fare better next year for mine. Goldy going is a disaster.

First up i think Goldy will stay.

People cant dispute that North got hit very very hard by injuries and never recovered. The team was undefeated then just lost a few close games to the top teams with key players out then completely lost it.

A healthy Mason Wood will be a big big in.
Higgins missed round 8 onwards
Ben Jacobs missed round 8 onwards and not sure if he plays but he was an elite tagger in the 15 finals
Luke Mcdonald missed pretty much round 11 onwards
Sam Wright missed round 11 onwards
Lachy Hansen was unhealthy pretty much all of the year.

Kayne Turner, Jed Anderson and Taylor Garner all missed loads of games and if just 2 are healthy they will compete for the role to replace boomer.

Petrie was a shell of himself so no loss, Firrito was a solid player but no star

Boomer NDS Wells of course are big losses

but there are injured players as i said coming in

I used to subscribe to the theory of a handful of injuries making an impact on a team in a given year. That was before the Hawks won the 2014 flag, and if you needed further proof, the Dogs won the 2016 flag.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Ringo on October 15, 2016, 03:25:45 PM
Quote from: LF on October 15, 2016, 03:10:59 PM
Quote from: iZander on October 15, 2016, 03:09:37 PM
Quote from: meow meow on October 15, 2016, 03:07:31 PM
Who would capitan Brissy? Bastinac

Obviously

GOAT
Interesting one if Rocky goes. Current Leadership group is Rocky, Hanley, Rich, Zorko, Beams and Merrett, Merrett has retired, Hanley to Suns. Beams really has no leadership experience, Rich has form issues and this may lose some respect, Zorko the obvious one but can be hot headed at times. I expect Andrews to be elevated to leadership group next season.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Purple 77 on October 15, 2016, 03:35:15 PM
Quote from: Ringo on October 15, 2016, 03:25:45 PM
Quote from: LF on October 15, 2016, 03:10:59 PM
Quote from: iZander on October 15, 2016, 03:09:37 PM
Quote from: meow meow on October 15, 2016, 03:07:31 PM
Who would capitan Brissy? Bastinac

Obviously

GOAT
Interesting one if Rocky goes. Current Leadership group is Rocky, Hanley, Rich, Zorko, Beams and Merrett, Merrett has retired, Hanley to Suns. Beams really has no leadership experience, Rich has form issues and this may lose some respect, Zorko the obvious one but can be hot headed at times. I expect Andrews to be elevated to leadership group next season.

Lynden Dunn was our VC just last year. Maybe that's the reason you may still get him, despite getting Frost too?
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: tbagrocks on October 15, 2016, 04:07:51 PM
Given Carlton's reluctance and the fact Softie ignored FA two years ago  :-\ then  >:( then  ::)

Would Adelaide who haven't landed  trade wasting time on  contracted player, be better off giving Brisbane #13 and Lyons or whatever for Rockliff?

Flog me, Id go right after Deledio and Rocky if I ran the ACF :P

There are good reasons I don't hey? ???
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: kilbluff1985 on October 15, 2016, 04:12:50 PM
why would Rocky got from Brisbane to Adelaide lol (state not team)
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Holz on October 15, 2016, 04:27:12 PM
Quote from: fanTCfool on October 15, 2016, 02:50:17 PM
Rockliff, Lewis, Jones, Viney and the #1 Ruck in the Comp?  :o

Do you have any source for Goldy going to the dees?

kinda doesnt make any sense Gawn is a top ruck already
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Football Factory on October 15, 2016, 04:32:57 PM
Quote from: Holz on October 15, 2016, 04:27:12 PM
Quote from: fanTCfool on October 15, 2016, 02:50:17 PM
Rockliff, Lewis, Jones, Viney and the #1 Ruck in the Comp?  :o

Do you have any source for Goldy going to the dees?

kinda doesnt make any sense Gawn is a top ruck already

:D
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: kilbluff1985 on October 15, 2016, 04:48:57 PM
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on October 15, 2016, 08:03:46 AM
Holz do you want to do a name change bet

whoever finishes lower gets their name changed for a week
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Holz on October 15, 2016, 04:51:33 PM
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on October 15, 2016, 04:48:57 PM
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on October 15, 2016, 08:03:46 AM
Holz do you want to do a name change bet

whoever finishes lower gets their name changed for a week

I dont bet
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: fanTCfool on October 15, 2016, 04:54:15 PM
Quote from: Holz on October 15, 2016, 04:51:33 PM
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on October 15, 2016, 04:48:57 PM
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on October 15, 2016, 08:03:46 AM
Holz do you want to do a name change bet

whoever finishes lower gets their name changed for a week

I dont bet

I wouldn't bet either if I was a North fan  :-\
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: RaisyDaisy on October 15, 2016, 05:06:35 PM
Even if Rocky somehow stays, Zorko HAS to be captain, with Beams vice

I'm very happy to see Melbourne chasing good players because it will be great to see them play finals soon

One of Lewis/Rocky + Hibberd + another preseason into the existing group = good times ahead
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: RaisyDaisy on October 15, 2016, 05:14:52 PM
Very happy to see Hamling go to Freo too

Adams is ours  8)
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Holz on October 15, 2016, 05:15:52 PM
Quote from: fanTCfool on October 15, 2016, 04:54:15 PM
Quote from: Holz on October 15, 2016, 04:51:33 PM
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on October 15, 2016, 04:48:57 PM
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on October 15, 2016, 08:03:46 AM
Holz do you want to do a name change bet

whoever finishes lower gets their name changed for a week

I dont bet

I wouldn't bet either if I was a North fan  :-\

I cant say a word to JB,

but Carlton and Essendon have pretty much been the worst teams for the last decade.

I reckon north has had more winnings finals in 2014 2015 then both teams have combined for the last decade.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: TomK on October 15, 2016, 05:19:21 PM
http://www.foxsports.com.au/afl/carlton-should-accept-jarryd-lyons-in-deal-with-adelaide-for-bryce-gibbs-says-champion-data-analyst/news-story/e84410b599d14574f424cf177f265d92?from=public_rss

“There were eight players in the league last year who rated as elite for goals and assists coming out of the midfield â€" one of them was Bryce Gibbs, another was Jarryd Lyons.

“He provides a lot that Gibbs already does and he’s four years younger.”

Gibbs’ statistics were excellent in 2016, with the Blue averaging 26.8 disposals (9.5 contested) and kicking 18 goals in 22 games. Lyons was also solid averaging 21.6 disposals (10.4 contested) and booting 15 goals in 20 matches.

But perhaps surprisingly, according to Champion Data’s closely guarded player ratings, Lyons was rated “slightly above” Gibbs in 2016.

“He (Lyons) wins a bit more contested ball and does most of his work in the forward half, (plus) he’s a bit more clean with the ball,” Wilson explained.

Lyons > Gibbs confirmed 8) :P
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: kilbluff1985 on October 15, 2016, 05:21:45 PM
Quote from: Holz on October 15, 2016, 05:15:52 PM
Quote from: fanTCfool on October 15, 2016, 04:54:15 PM
Quote from: Holz on October 15, 2016, 04:51:33 PM
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on October 15, 2016, 04:48:57 PM
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on October 15, 2016, 08:03:46 AM
Holz do you want to do a name change bet

whoever finishes lower gets their name changed for a week

I dont bet

I wouldn't bet either if I was a North fan  :-\

I cant say a word to JB,

but Carlton and Essendon have pretty much been the worst teams for the last decade.

I reckon north has had more winnings finals in 2014 2015 then both teams have combined for the last decade.

what does that have to do with next year?
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Jukes on October 15, 2016, 05:32:37 PM
Melbourne, St Kilda, Freo, and the Dogs have played in a grand final more recently than North

Lel
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: iZander on October 15, 2016, 05:41:45 PM
Quote from: Holz on October 15, 2016, 05:15:52 PM
Quote from: fanTCfool on October 15, 2016, 04:54:15 PM
Quote from: Holz on October 15, 2016, 04:51:33 PM
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on October 15, 2016, 04:48:57 PM
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on October 15, 2016, 08:03:46 AM
Holz do you want to do a name change bet

whoever finishes lower gets their name changed for a week

I dont bet

I wouldn't bet either if I was a North fan  :-\

I cant say a word to JB,

but Carlton and Essendon have pretty much been the worst teams for the last decade.

I reckon north has had more winnings finals in 2014 2015 then both teams have combined for the last decade.

yet still more members ;)
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: kilbluff1985 on October 15, 2016, 06:46:54 PM
Norh fans are just content with being forever mediocre
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: enzedder on October 15, 2016, 08:31:08 PM
Saints looking at targeting Shiel or Kelly this time next year (not Fyfe) as uncontracted players.
With two first rounders the Saints will be well placed to deal.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Holz on October 15, 2016, 09:00:32 PM
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on October 15, 2016, 06:46:54 PM
Norh fans are just content with being forever mediocre

Im pretty happy, 2 flags, 1 runnner up and im not sure how many prelims in the last 20 years.

Essendon fans happy to live off the vfl success before they where born.

Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: kilbluff1985 on October 15, 2016, 09:04:21 PM
Quote from: Holz on October 15, 2016, 09:00:32 PM
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on October 15, 2016, 06:46:54 PM
Norh fans are just content with being forever mediocre

Im pretty happy, 2 flags, 1 runnner up and im not sure how many prelims in the last 20 years.

Essendon fans happy to live off the vfl success before they where born.

wont help you next year
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: RaisyDaisy on October 15, 2016, 09:05:00 PM
Get a room you two
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: GoLions on October 15, 2016, 09:09:03 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on October 15, 2016, 09:05:00 PM
Get a room you two
I agree RD, a DP bet could be on the cards here!
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: kilbluff1985 on October 15, 2016, 09:09:53 PM
Quote from: GoLions on October 15, 2016, 09:09:03 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on October 15, 2016, 09:05:00 PM
Get a room you two
I agree RD, a DP bet could be on the cards here!

i tried but Holz is chicken
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Bill Manspeaker on October 15, 2016, 09:24:44 PM
kb, or should I say The Mighty Sainters, you don't have the best track record with name changing bets :P
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: PowerBug on October 15, 2016, 09:50:36 PM
At least his went through ain't that right Tbag??? ;)
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: kilbluff1985 on October 15, 2016, 10:09:47 PM
(http://imgur.com/iH4Ciw4.jpg)
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: powersuperkents on October 15, 2016, 11:08:25 PM
Don't forget the fourth hit.

North hitting rock bottom  ;)
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Hellopplz on October 16, 2016, 12:11:08 AM
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on October 15, 2016, 10:09:47 PM
(http://imgur.com/iH4Ciw4.jpg)
I'm going to allow it.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Big Mac on October 16, 2016, 12:36:44 AM
Quote from: Hellopplz on October 16, 2016, 12:11:08 AM
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on October 15, 2016, 10:09:47 PM
(http://imgur.com/iH4Ciw4.jpg)
I'm going to allow it.
#YTB
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: nrich102 on October 16, 2016, 01:22:00 AM
NEVER dog the boys
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Mat0369 on October 16, 2016, 02:13:42 AM
If the Rockliff rumor is true I don't think the Dees are targeting the right type of midfielder. Say they get Lewis and Rockliff, that gives them two more guys that can get a lot of the pill that are not going to break lines. However, they also have Viney, Tyson, Jones, Brayshaw, Oliver and a bunch of other guys that fill that role. Bringing in Lewis makes sense, but I thought they would look at getting some more outside pace to play on the wing that these guys can feed out the ball.

Salem might move onto the wing if Hibberd plays at HB, Petracca will likely be used as a high half forward but he might be able to do this as well. I still think they are one short before they can really start doing some damage in terms of finals. I can't think of any of these guys that are available off the top of my head so maybe that's why they are going the other way.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Grazz on October 16, 2016, 02:39:27 AM
                 (http://i1143.photobucket.com/albums/n624/Grazz64/puppiss_zpse3c71cb8.gif) (http://s1143.photobucket.com/user/Grazz64/media/puppiss_zpse3c71cb8.gif.html)
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on October 15, 2016, 04:12:50 PM
why would Rocky got from Brisbane to Adelaide lol (state not team)


Grrrrrrrrr ruff ruff.

(http://i1143.photobucket.com/albums/n624/Grazz64/e8125b5ex50_zpspwi0qhwc.gif) (http://s1143.photobucket.com/user/Grazz64/media/e8125b5ex50_zpspwi0qhwc.gif.html)
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Big Mac on October 16, 2016, 03:40:08 AM
Quote from: Mat0369 on October 16, 2016, 02:13:42 AM
If the Rockliff rumor is true I don't think the Dees are targeting the right type of midfielder. Say they get Lewis and Rockliff, that gives them two more guys that can get a lot of the pill that are not going to break lines. However, they also have Viney, Tyson, Jones, Brayshaw, Oliver and a bunch of other guys that fill that role. Bringing in Lewis makes sense, but I thought they would look at getting some more outside pace to play on the wing that these guys can feed out the ball.

Salem might move onto the wing if Hibberd plays at HB, Petracca will likely be used as a high half forward but he might be able to do this as well. I still think they are one short before they can really start doing some damage in terms of finals. I can't think of any of these guys that are available off the top of my head so maybe that's why they are going the other way.

I'm guessing Salem, Hunt, Hibberd, Melksham, Stretch and Vince will make up the half back/wing rotation

Then in terms of mids, Oliver has great vision, Brayshaw has pretty good disposal (on both feet), and Tracca good explosiveness/marking, which makes for a decent mix

I mean ideally we land someone with Deledio's skills but a bit younger, but we'd be silly to turn down Rocky + Lewis imo

I really can't see us getting Rocky though
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: kilbluff1985 on October 16, 2016, 05:26:33 AM
http://www.triplem.com.au/melbourne/sport/afl/news/2016/10/brendan-fevolas-massive-jordan-lewis-news

interesting read
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: RiOtChEsS on October 16, 2016, 10:41:38 AM
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on October 16, 2016, 05:26:33 AM
http://www.triplem.com.au/melbourne/sport/afl/news/2016/10/brendan-fevolas-massive-jordan-lewis-news

interesting read
hard to take fev seriously at the best of times let alone right after he said he could kick 80+ goals for Carlton in 2017
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: RaisyDaisy on October 16, 2016, 12:30:31 PM
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on October 16, 2016, 05:26:33 AM
http://www.triplem.com.au/melbourne/sport/afl/news/2016/10/brendan-fevolas-massive-jordan-lewis-news

interesting read

Yeah I already mentioned this yesterday morning :P
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: RaisyDaisy on October 16, 2016, 12:37:39 PM
Melbourne has offered Lewis a 3 year deal as we all know, but WAtoday is reporting that Goldy actually had a medical at WCE  :o

WCE and North both denying it though
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: powersuperkents on October 16, 2016, 12:42:23 PM
Quote from: Big  Mac on October 16, 2016, 03:40:08 AM
Quote from: Mat0369 on October 16, 2016, 02:13:42 AM
If the Rockliff rumor is true I don't think the Dees are targeting the right type of midfielder. Say they get Lewis and Rockliff, that gives them two more guys that can get a lot of the pill that are not going to break lines. However, they also have Viney, Tyson, Jones, Brayshaw, Oliver and a bunch of other guys that fill that role. Bringing in Lewis makes sense, but I thought they would look at getting some more outside pace to play on the wing that these guys can feed out the ball.

Salem might move onto the wing if Hibberd plays at HB, Petracca will likely be used as a high half forward but he might be able to do this as well. I still think they are one short before they can really start doing some damage in terms of finals. I can't think of any of these guys that are available off the top of my head so maybe that's why they are going the other way.

I'm guessing Salem, Hunt, Hibberd, Melksham, Stretch and Vince will make up the half back/wing rotation

Then in terms of mids, Oliver has great vision, Brayshaw has pretty good disposal (on both feet), and Tracca good explosiveness/marking, which makes for a decent mix

I mean ideally we land someone with Deledio's skills but a bit younger, but we'd be silly to turn down Rocky + Lewis imo

I really can't see us getting Rocky though
Would Harmes be another outside option in the long-run?
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Purple 77 on October 16, 2016, 01:05:45 PM
Quote from: powersuperkents on October 16, 2016, 12:42:23 PM
Quote from: Big  Mac on October 16, 2016, 03:40:08 AM
Quote from: Mat0369 on October 16, 2016, 02:13:42 AM
If the Rockliff rumor is true I don't think the Dees are targeting the right type of midfielder. Say they get Lewis and Rockliff, that gives them two more guys that can get a lot of the pill that are not going to break lines. However, they also have Viney, Tyson, Jones, Brayshaw, Oliver and a bunch of other guys that fill that role. Bringing in Lewis makes sense, but I thought they would look at getting some more outside pace to play on the wing that these guys can feed out the ball.

Salem might move onto the wing if Hibberd plays at HB, Petracca will likely be used as a high half forward but he might be able to do this as well. I still think they are one short before they can really start doing some damage in terms of finals. I can't think of any of these guys that are available off the top of my head so maybe that's why they are going the other way.

I'm guessing Salem, Hunt, Hibberd, Melksham, Stretch and Vince will make up the half back/wing rotation

Then in terms of mids, Oliver has great vision, Brayshaw has pretty good disposal (on both feet), and Tracca good explosiveness/marking, which makes for a decent mix

I mean ideally we land someone with Deledio's skills but a bit younger, but we'd be silly to turn down Rocky + Lewis imo

I really can't see us getting Rocky though
Would Harmes be another outside option in the long-run?

He made his name as a contested ball winner in the VFL in 2015 before making his way as a regular for us. He ended up playing a fair bit in defence actually. But I wouldn't think so, as he does have good contested attributes, and not the best disposal.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Purple 77 on October 16, 2016, 01:59:49 PM
Surely Fisher is moved on now?

(http://image.prntscr.com/image/9c1e11ebd2474103b9485672eca5a593.png)
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Purple 77 on October 16, 2016, 02:35:13 PM
So, with this in mind:

Sunday October 16, 5pm - Close of NAB AFL restricted free agency offer and unrestricted free agency period.

Remaining free agents are:
RICKY HENDERSON
DENNIS ARMFIELD
JARRYD BLAIR
COURTENAY DEMPSEY
ZAC CLARKE
MATT DE BOER
CLANCEE PEARCE
JIMMY BARTEL
TOM LONERGAN
JACK GRIMES (restricted... but delisted)
DREW PETRIE
PAUL STEWART
SAM FISHER
MITCH BROWN
SAM BUTLER
WILL MINSON




Could be interesting in the next few hours!
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Money Shot on October 16, 2016, 03:03:02 PM
Been seeing a few rumours about Fyfe coming to Carlton ::)

About a 1% chance of it coming true but I can hope haha
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Nige on October 16, 2016, 03:04:01 PM
There's also another opportunity delisted free agents to get picked up come November.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Levi434 on October 16, 2016, 03:16:54 PM
Interesting list there. You'd think a majority would/should get picked up.

Wouldn't mind seeing Henderson, Clarke and Bartel at GC.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: tbagrocks on October 16, 2016, 03:35:08 PM
Why hasn't Hendo been picked up? My guess is others don't wont crows to get compo, they'll pick him in PS draft

Also, why isn't Lyons being more highly rated? 55 games 24yr midfielder entering his prime

Stats basically ruining footy (Oh Jarryd Lyons, wasn't taken till pick #61 so he isn't worth anything 5 years later) ::)

Id give Lyons that bigger contract and keep him than trade him for chicken fodder

Basically I'm just pissed at others lie the cheats Hawthorn, Freo and so, getting deals done whilst Adelaide sit on the fence

JUST BLUDDY GO GET ROCKLIFF AND BE DONE WITH IT!
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Bill Manspeaker on October 16, 2016, 03:47:06 PM
really happy with Brown! gives Goddard some more time to get over his injury and mature a bit
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Mat0369 on October 16, 2016, 03:52:02 PM
Quote from: Nige on October 16, 2016, 03:04:01 PM
There's also another opportunity delisted free agents to get picked up come November.

This.

I don't think picking guys up now screws with pick compensation like it did with us when we got Daisy but lost Eddie. Otherwise teams will just wait until the later period to grab these guys to not lose picks.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: powersuperkents on October 16, 2016, 04:03:10 PM
Quote from: Bill Manspeaker on October 16, 2016, 03:47:06 PM
really happy with Brown! gives Goddard some more time to get over his injury and mature a bit
Yeah definitely a big pick up for the Saints

If they continue their fast-paced playing style, they should push well into the 8 next season (Carlisle returning will also enhance the defensive line)
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Jukes on October 16, 2016, 04:14:34 PM
Quote from: Money Shot on October 16, 2016, 03:03:02 PM
Been seeing a few rumours about Fyfe coming to Carlton ::)

About a 1% chance of it coming true but I can hope haha

I saw that too yesterday, must be gaining traction!

Probably a 2% chance of actually happening, but you never know. Stranger things have happened
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Mat0369 on October 16, 2016, 04:40:14 PM
Quote from: Jukes on October 16, 2016, 04:14:34 PM
I saw that too yesterday, must be gaining traction!

Probably a 2% chance of actually happening, but you never know. Stranger things have happened

My mum just saw it on Facebook which seems like a reliable source for trade news  :P

If we were to get Fyfe we would have to trade Cripps.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Money Shot on October 16, 2016, 04:52:11 PM
Quote from: Mat0369 on October 16, 2016, 04:40:14 PM
Quote from: Jukes on October 16, 2016, 04:14:34 PM
I saw that too yesterday, must be gaining traction!

Probably a 2% chance of actually happening, but you never know. Stranger things have happened

My mum just saw it on Facebook which seems like a reliable source for trade news  :P

If we were to get Fyfe we would have to trade Cripps.
I would rather Cripps :P
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Levi434 on October 16, 2016, 05:02:13 PM
Quote from: Money Shot on October 16, 2016, 04:52:11 PM
Quote from: Mat0369 on October 16, 2016, 04:40:14 PM
Quote from: Jukes on October 16, 2016, 04:14:34 PM
I saw that too yesterday, must be gaining traction!

Probably a 2% chance of actually happening, but you never know. Stranger things have happened

My mum just saw it on Facebook which seems like a reliable source for trade news  :P

If we were to get Fyfe we would have to trade Cripps.
I would rather Cripps :P
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Jukes on October 16, 2016, 05:03:54 PM
Quote from: Money Shot on October 16, 2016, 04:52:11 PM
Quote from: Mat0369 on October 16, 2016, 04:40:14 PM
Quote from: Jukes on October 16, 2016, 04:14:34 PM
I saw that too yesterday, must be gaining traction!

Probably a 2% chance of actually happening, but you never know. Stranger things have happened

My mum just saw it on Facebook which seems like a reliable source for trade news  :P

If we were to get Fyfe we would have to trade Cripps.
I would rather Cripps :P

Me too for sure. Maybe try and incorporate it into the Gibbs and Tuohy trades?

Carlton trade: Gibbs, Tuohy and picks 5 and 25
Carlton receive: Fyfe and pick 7

Adelaide trade: Lyons and pick 13
Adelaide receive: Gibbs and pick 43

Geelong trade: Cockatoo
Geelong receive: Tuohy

Freo trade: Fyfe and picks 7 and 43
Freo receiver: Lyons, Cockatoo, and picks 5, 13, and 25

I rate that scenario a 95%+ chance of happening
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Holz on October 16, 2016, 05:21:36 PM
0% chance freo do that trade.

If you remove pick 7 maybe
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: _wato on October 16, 2016, 05:22:30 PM
Quote from: Jukes on October 16, 2016, 05:03:54 PM
Quote from: Money Shot on October 16, 2016, 04:52:11 PM
Quote from: Mat0369 on October 16, 2016, 04:40:14 PM
Quote from: Jukes on October 16, 2016, 04:14:34 PM
I saw that too yesterday, must be gaining traction!

Probably a 2% chance of actually happening, but you never know. Stranger things have happened

My mum just saw it on Facebook which seems like a reliable source for trade news  :P

If we were to get Fyfe we would have to trade Cripps.
I would rather Cripps :P

Me too for sure. Maybe try and incorporate it into the Softie and Tuohy trades?

Carlton trade: Softie, Tuohy and picks 5 and 25
Carlton receive: Fyfe and pick 7

Adelaide trade: Lyons and pick 13
Adelaide receive: Softie and pick 43

Geelong trade: Cockatoo
Geelong receive: Tuohy

Freo trade: Fyfe and picks 7 and 43
Freo receiver: Lyons, Cockatoo, and picks 5, 13, and 25

I rate that scenario a 95%+ chance of happening

Good trades until Freo

Bc You're really saying

Fyfe + 43 for Cockatoo, 13, 25

Ahahahahahahah horrible trade
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Jukes on October 16, 2016, 05:30:18 PM
Fyfe is coming off an LTI and has had 2 broken legs in what 13 months, he's a risk. I thought they were doing alright, and from their past history Freo are usually content with being owned in trades.

And it was Fyfe and 43 for Lyons, Cockatoo, 13, 25, and an early pick upgrade? So Fyfe and a random spud for Lyons (gun), Cockatoo (potential), Kerr and Powell-Pepper (guns). Not too shabby, maybe the blues can throw in some more like next years' first or something
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: meow meow on October 16, 2016, 06:11:27 PM
Wouldn't mind Jack Grimes to take over the Brett Goodes > Jed Adcock mature rookie spot.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Spite on October 16, 2016, 06:20:35 PM
Wouldn't mind the Pies offering up Marsh + Williams for McKenzie right about now...
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Purple 77 on October 16, 2016, 06:32:39 PM
lol

Apparently just this morning Lewis was in that gap to the left of Gibson  :-X

(http://image.prntscr.com/image/03f3909047d1415689c51a7bdb391191.png)

EDIT: Here it is :P

(http://image.prntscr.com/image/68cc32498e2f43c5bf13a81b5e3456b6.png)
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: fanTCfool on October 16, 2016, 06:39:19 PM
That's why Brad Hill's face looks so damn unusual!
When in doubt always fill holes with ruckman #bigboy
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Purple 77 on October 16, 2016, 06:40:36 PM
Quote from: fanTCfool on October 16, 2016, 06:39:19 PM
That's why Brad Hill's face looks so damn unusual!

Oh... he shouldn't be there should he by the same logic, actually  :-X

Maybe someone was just having a laugh haha
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Levi434 on October 16, 2016, 06:47:19 PM
Jordan Lewis looks photoshopped in there actually :o
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: fanTCfool on October 16, 2016, 07:01:11 PM
Quote from: Levi434 on October 16, 2016, 06:47:19 PM
Jordan Lewis looks photoshopped in there actually :o

Zoom in on Gunston's left shoulder and Lewis' right, looks suss. Lewis' right hand seems to be strangely resting on Gunston's hip too.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: meow meow on October 16, 2016, 07:06:36 PM
Quote from: Spite on October 16, 2016, 06:20:35 PM
Wouldn't mind the Pies offering up Marsh + Williams for McKenzie right about now...

Neither WA team wants Marsh and no teams at all have enquired about Williams
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: kilbluff1985 on October 16, 2016, 07:21:10 PM
so has the Lewis trade been done?
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Big Mac on October 16, 2016, 07:33:13 PM
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on October 16, 2016, 07:21:10 PM
so has the Lewis trade been done?

just a flowerton of spectulation
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Purple 77 on October 16, 2016, 08:11:17 PM
And now Mark Robinson & Channel 7 say Lewis has rejected a move to Gold Coast, which would have seen him earn more money, in preference to the Dees  :o

Lewis to officially request a trade to Melbourne tomorrow  :o
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: RaisyDaisy on October 16, 2016, 08:24:48 PM
Looks like Motlop and Adams won't be traded

Ahern going to North by the sounds of things too
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: AaronKirk on October 16, 2016, 09:31:41 PM
Quote from: Big  Mac on October 16, 2016, 07:33:13 PM
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on October 16, 2016, 07:21:10 PM
so has the Lewis trade been done?

just a flowerton of spectulation

Likely to be done tomorrow I would suspect.

Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Purple 77 on October 17, 2016, 11:27:35 AM
Trade Radio saying Lewis is officially a Dee :D

The whole trade to be made public very soon!
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: RaisyDaisy on October 17, 2016, 11:30:53 AM
Ahern to North for Pick 69 done
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Jukes on October 17, 2016, 11:34:43 AM
What's with gun old blokes and going to clubs outside of their flag window this year
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: shaker on October 17, 2016, 11:39:23 AM
Quote from: Jukes on October 17, 2016, 11:34:43 AM
What's with gun old blokes and going to clubs outside of their flag window this year

The hawk boys have plenty of flags just extending there careers and finances as long as possible , but I do not see why the Dees would chase Lewis , Rockliff would be a better fit even with his problems
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Jukes on October 17, 2016, 11:43:39 AM
Quote from: shaker on October 17, 2016, 11:39:23 AM
Quote from: Jukes on October 17, 2016, 11:34:43 AM
What's with gun old blokes and going to clubs outside of their flag window this year

The hawk boys have plenty of flags just extending there careers and finances as long as possible , but I do not see why the Dees would chase Lewis , Rockliff would be a better fit even with his problems

Surely teams like the Giants, Dogs, and Crows would target guys like Wells, Mitch and Lewis more to help their cause, but maybe it's just the Hawks being strategic and not trading guys to teams they think they're competing with for top 4.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: powersuperkents on October 17, 2016, 11:48:44 AM
Quote from: Jukes on October 17, 2016, 11:43:39 AM
Quote from: shaker on October 17, 2016, 11:39:23 AM
Quote from: Jukes on October 17, 2016, 11:34:43 AM
What's with gun old blokes and going to clubs outside of their flag window this year

The hawk boys have plenty of flags just extending there careers and finances as long as possible , but I do not see why the Dees would chase Lewis , Rockliff would be a better fit even with his problems

Surely teams like the Giants, Dogs, and Crows would target guys like Wells, Mitch and Lewis more to help their cause, but maybe it's just the Hawks being strategic and not trading guys to teams they think they're competing with for top 4.
Lewis mentioned on 360 that most of the Hawks players sacrificed their salary for the good of the team. Clarkson would tell them that if you are part of a dynasty, people will pay you plenty of money after your career (I'm not sure what as but most likely as a coach... or a motivation speaker  :P ).

I think Lewis realises that it's best not to take the risk and is trying to maximise payments while he still has some earning potential
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: shaker on October 17, 2016, 11:48:55 AM
Quote from: Jukes on October 17, 2016, 11:43:39 AM
Quote from: shaker on October 17, 2016, 11:39:23 AM
Quote from: Jukes on October 17, 2016, 11:34:43 AM
What's with gun old blokes and going to clubs outside of their flag window this year

The hawk boys have plenty of flags just extending there careers and finances as long as possible , but I do not see why the Dees would chase Lewis , Rockliff would be a better fit even with his problems

Surely teams like the Giants, Dogs, and Crows would target guys like Wells, Mitch and Lewis more to help their cause, but maybe it's just the Hawks being strategic and not trading guys to teams they think they're competing with for top 4.

The Giants have an overflow of talent and have to reduce there cap anyway the Doggies are doing fine with there fantastic coach but yep the Crows probably could have gone after someone like Lewis but are all tied with the Blues trying to get Softie
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Ringo on October 17, 2016, 11:57:56 AM
Hartung, Whitecross and O'Rourke being mentioned in dispatches at Brisbane. O'Rourke the surprise addition over the week end.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: RaisyDaisy on October 17, 2016, 12:13:03 PM
Quote from: Ringo on October 17, 2016, 11:57:56 AM
Hartung, Whitecross and O'Rourke being mentioned in dispatches at Brisbane. O'Rourke the surprise addition over the week end.

Been hearing that too

Hawks get rid of fringe depth and get JOM - smart play by them considering GC were demanding a gun
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: elephants on October 17, 2016, 12:35:05 PM
Stoked with Smitch, back in premiership contention imo. Smitch and Adams would be a magic trade period if we can wrap that up!
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Jukes on October 17, 2016, 12:45:29 PM
Heard we're close on dealing pick 41 for GWS big man James Stewart, would be a good pick-up as support for Daniher for cheap with great physical measurables
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Money Shot on October 17, 2016, 12:47:45 PM
Quote from: Jukes on October 17, 2016, 12:45:29 PM
Heard we're close on dealing pick 41 for GWS big man James Stewart, would be a good pick-up as support for Daniher for cheap with great physical measurables
But he's going to Carlton :(
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Jukes on October 17, 2016, 12:49:50 PM
Quote from: Money Shot on October 17, 2016, 12:47:45 PM
Quote from: Jukes on October 17, 2016, 12:45:29 PM
Heard we're close on dealing pick 41 for GWS big man James Stewart, would be a good pick-up as support for Daniher for cheap with great physical measurables
But he's going to Carlton :(
Go away, you already have Jones and Casboult what more could you need!?!?
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Money Shot on October 17, 2016, 12:53:10 PM
Quote from: Jukes on October 17, 2016, 12:49:50 PM
Quote from: Money Shot on October 17, 2016, 12:47:45 PM
Quote from: Jukes on October 17, 2016, 12:45:29 PM
Heard we're close on dealing pick 41 for GWS big man James Stewart, would be a good pick-up as support for Daniher for cheap with great physical measurables
But he's going to Carlton :(
Go away, you already have Jones and Casboult what more could you need!?!?
We could always use a third tall to hold our forward line together for the next 10 years!
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: meow meow on October 17, 2016, 12:58:24 PM
Stewart could be the next Gunston if he gets a good run at it. Would be a great pick up for the Dons.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Money Shot on October 17, 2016, 12:59:03 PM
Quote from: meow meow on October 17, 2016, 12:58:24 PM
Stewart could be the next Gunston if he gets a good run at it. Would be a great pick up for the Blues.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: _wato on October 17, 2016, 12:59:43 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on October 17, 2016, 11:30:53 AM
Ahern to North for Pick 69 done

What a flowering steal !
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: RaisyDaisy on October 17, 2016, 01:01:32 PM
Quote from: elephants on October 17, 2016, 12:35:05 PM
Stoked with Smitch, back in premiership contention imo. Smitch and Adams would be a magic trade period if we can wrap that up!

Looks like Adams will be seeing out his contract next year with Dogs

Maybe next year we can grab him
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: RaisyDaisy on October 17, 2016, 01:02:15 PM
Quote from: _wato on October 17, 2016, 12:59:43 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on October 17, 2016, 11:30:53 AM
Ahern to North for Pick 69 done

What a flowering steal !

Back to back knee reco's though

Hopefully he gets a run at it from 2018 onwards
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: meow meow on October 17, 2016, 01:03:01 PM
Giants are getting in a bad habit of wasting early picks then giving them away for next to nothing. They'll be so shower when they have to draft normally (can still rely on the academy handouts I guess)
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: elephants on October 17, 2016, 01:03:27 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on October 17, 2016, 01:01:32 PM
Quote from: elephants on October 17, 2016, 12:35:05 PM
Stoked with Smitch, back in premiership contention imo. Smitch and Adams would be a magic trade period if we can wrap that up!

Looks like Adams will be seeing out his contract next year with Dogs

Maybe next year we can grab him

For freeeeeeeeeeeee?!
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Bill Manspeaker on October 17, 2016, 01:06:10 PM
Quote from: _wato on October 17, 2016, 12:59:43 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on October 17, 2016, 11:30:53 AM
Ahern to North for Pick 69 done

What a flowering steal !

flowerin oath! they'll be laughin if he comes good. big steal!
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: meow meow on October 17, 2016, 01:07:43 PM
Quote from: elephants on October 17, 2016, 01:03:27 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on October 17, 2016, 01:01:32 PM
Quote from: elephants on October 17, 2016, 12:35:05 PM
Stoked with Smitch, back in premiership contention imo. Smitch and Adams would be a magic trade period if we can wrap that up!

Looks like Adams will be seeing out his contract next year with Dogs

Maybe next year we can grab him

For freeeeeeeeeeeee?!

No. Will cost you plenty.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: meow meow on October 17, 2016, 02:52:22 PM
Is it going to be one of those years when teams screw around for 2 weeks then miss the deadline by 5 minutes?
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: elephants on October 17, 2016, 02:55:22 PM
Quote from: meow meow on October 17, 2016, 02:52:22 PM
Is it going to be one of those years when teams screw around for 2 weeks then miss the deadline by 5 minutes?

Oh of course, wouldn't be a trade period if that didn't happen right?
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: RaisyDaisy on October 17, 2016, 04:14:36 PM
No real surprise, but Lewis has officially told the Hawks he wants to be traded to Melbourne
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: kilbluff1985 on October 17, 2016, 04:46:32 PM
Xavier Richards wants to be traded
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Jukes on October 17, 2016, 04:48:00 PM
Blockbuster trade in the works

Rhys Palmer to Carlton
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: SydneyRox on October 17, 2016, 04:48:33 PM
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on October 17, 2016, 04:46:32 PM
Xavier Richards wants to be traded

REALLY?
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: GoLions on October 17, 2016, 04:48:44 PM
Quote from: Jukes on October 17, 2016, 04:48:00 PM
Blockbuster trade in the works

Rhys Palmer to Carlton
The Blues one step closer to fielding an all-(ex)GWS team.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Nige on October 17, 2016, 04:50:27 PM
Can't wait to see the Giants' NEAFL side play AFL next season!
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: elephants on October 17, 2016, 04:54:00 PM
Quote from: SydneyRox on October 17, 2016, 04:48:33 PM
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on October 17, 2016, 04:46:32 PM
Xavier Richards wants to be traded

REALLY?

Yep:

Xavier Richards has requested a trade from Sydney according to Neil Cordy
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: TomK on October 17, 2016, 04:56:22 PM
lol, Blues will take Rhys Palmer but not Jarryd Lyons ::)
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Scrads on October 17, 2016, 04:56:45 PM
Quote from: TomK on October 17, 2016, 04:56:22 PM
lol, Blues will take Rhys Palmer but not Jarryd Lyons ::)
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Money Shot on October 17, 2016, 04:58:45 PM
Quote from: Nige on October 17, 2016, 04:50:27 PM
Can't wait to see the Giants' NEAFL side play AFL next season!
Probably a better side than Richmond ;)
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: GoLions on October 17, 2016, 05:00:26 PM
Quote from: Scrads on October 17, 2016, 04:56:45 PM
Quote from: TomK on October 17, 2016, 04:56:22 PM
lol, Blues will take Rhys Palmer but not Jarryd Lyons ::)
I don't think they're giving GWS Gibbs though :P
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: elephants on October 17, 2016, 05:01:43 PM
Quote from: GoLions on October 17, 2016, 05:00:26 PM
Quote from: Scrads on October 17, 2016, 04:56:45 PM
Quote from: TomK on October 17, 2016, 04:56:22 PM
lol, Blues will take Rhys Palmer but not Jarryd Lyons ::)
I don't think they're giving GWS Softie though :P
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: JBs-Hawks on October 17, 2016, 05:27:20 PM
Lol Rhys Palmer
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Jukes on October 17, 2016, 05:31:50 PM
Palmer actually gunned it in the VFL this year

Palmer's six full NEAFL games:
Round 11 (vs. Sydney Swans): 39 disposals, seven marks, five tackles, seven inside 50s, 2.0
Round 12 (vs. Canberra): 52 disposals, seven marks, nine tackles, 11 inside 50s, 4.1
Round 19 (vs. Gold Coast): 23 disposals, six marks, four tackles, six inside 50s, 2.1
Round 20 (vs. Redland): 40 disposals, five marks, four tackles, 12 inside 50s, 1.2
Round 21 (vs. Brisbane Lions): 36 disposals, six marks, eight tackles, 11 inside 50s, 6.1
Round 22: (vs. Sydney Uni): 35 disposals, eight marks, 12 tackles, 11 inside 50s, 4.3

Average of 38 disposals and 3 goals a game. Tom Mitchell-level domination of shower-competition
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: TomK on October 17, 2016, 05:32:41 PM
Quote from: elephants on October 17, 2016, 05:01:43 PM
Quote from: GoLions on October 17, 2016, 05:00:26 PM
Quote from: Scrads on October 17, 2016, 04:56:45 PM
Quote from: TomK on October 17, 2016, 04:56:22 PM
lol, Blues will take Rhys Palmer but not Jarryd Lyons ::)
I don't think they're giving GWS Softie though :P
Irrelevant in comparing the two players though, I wouldn't be calling SOS a god if he wants Palmer and not Lyons :P
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: elephants on October 17, 2016, 05:33:08 PM
Yeah decent, but anyone can dominate the NEAFL. I actually wonder how long till he loses his spot in the GWS 22 and can't get back in... or has it already happened?
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: GoLions on October 17, 2016, 05:34:18 PM
Quote from: elephants on October 17, 2016, 05:33:08 PM
Yeah decent, but anyone can dominate the NEAFL. I actually wonder how long till he loses his spot in the GWS 22 and can't get back in... or has it already happened?
Already happened I reckon
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Koop on October 17, 2016, 05:36:00 PM
Quote from: Jukes on October 17, 2016, 05:31:50 PM
Palmer actually gunned it in the VFL this year

Palmer's six full NEAFL games:
Round 11 (vs. Sydney Swans): 39 disposals, seven marks, five tackles, seven inside 50s, 2.0
Round 12 (vs. Canberra): 52 disposals, seven marks, nine tackles, 11 inside 50s, 4.1
Round 19 (vs. Gold Coast): 23 disposals, six marks, four tackles, six inside 50s, 2.1
Round 20 (vs. Redland): 40 disposals, five marks, four tackles, 12 inside 50s, 1.2
Round 21 (vs. Brisbane Lions): 36 disposals, six marks, eight tackles, 11 inside 50s, 6.1
Round 22: (vs. Sydney Uni): 35 disposals, eight marks, 12 tackles, 11 inside 50s, 4.3

Average of 38 disposals and 3 goals a game. Tom Mitchell-level domination of shower-competition

Haha but then he comes into the preliminary final against the Doggies and is by far the worst player on ground :P
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Jukes on October 17, 2016, 05:37:19 PM
Quote from: GoLions on October 17, 2016, 05:34:18 PM
Quote from: elephants on October 17, 2016, 05:33:08 PM
Yeah decent, but anyone can dominate the NEAFL. I actually wonder how long till he loses his spot in the GWS 22 and can't get back in... or has it already happened?
Already happened I reckon

He gunned it in the prelim, 14 disposals and 6 marks #gun #saygoodbyetopick5carlton
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: GoLions on October 17, 2016, 05:37:56 PM
Quote from: Jukes on October 17, 2016, 05:37:19 PM
Quote from: GoLions on October 17, 2016, 05:34:18 PM
Quote from: elephants on October 17, 2016, 05:33:08 PM
Yeah decent, but anyone can dominate the NEAFL. I actually wonder how long till he loses his spot in the GWS 22 and can't get back in... or has it already happened?
Already happened I reckon

He gunned it in the prelim, 14 disposals and 6 marks #gun #saygoodbyetopick5carlton
Only cause SJ was suspended though ;)
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Nige on October 17, 2016, 06:01:48 PM
Quote from: GoLions on October 17, 2016, 05:37:56 PM
Quote from: Jukes on October 17, 2016, 05:37:19 PM
Quote from: GoLions on October 17, 2016, 05:34:18 PM
Quote from: elephants on October 17, 2016, 05:33:08 PM
Yeah decent, but anyone can dominate the NEAFL. I actually wonder how long till he loses his spot in the GWS 22 and can't get back in... or has it already happened?
Already happened I reckon

He gunned it in the prelim, 14 disposals and 6 marks #gun #saygoodbyetopick5carlton
Only cause SJ was suspended though ;)
Pretty good team effort by Stevie J and Rhys Palmer, Stevie for getting himself suspended and Palmer for being comfortably worst on ground in the prelim.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Purple 77 on October 17, 2016, 06:03:11 PM
Damian Barrett saying Hibberd will be traded for Melbourne's future second rounder.

Huh, I don't believe it. Dodoro blinked first (if true)!
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: AaronKirk on October 17, 2016, 06:10:14 PM
Quote from: Purple 77 on October 17, 2016, 06:03:11 PM
Damian Barrett saying Hibberd will be traded for Melbourne's future second rounder.

Huh, I don't believe it. Dodoro blinked first (if true)!

Essendon probably will use that to get Stewart from GWS which will help with their academy points in the 2017 draft.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: shaker on October 17, 2016, 06:41:19 PM
Quote from: Money Shot on October 17, 2016, 04:58:45 PM
Quote from: Nige on October 17, 2016, 04:50:27 PM
Can't wait to see the Giants' NEAFL side play AFL next season!
Probably a better side than Richmond ;)

Yes the Tiges were shower this year , and the Blues were so much better ?  ::)
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Bill Manspeaker on October 17, 2016, 06:43:17 PM
Quote from: Purple 77 on October 17, 2016, 06:03:11 PM
Damian Barrett saying Hibberd will be traded for Melbourne's future second rounder.

Huh, I don't believe it. Dodoro blinked first (if true)!
didn't have Clarko to help him out this time
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Money Shot on October 17, 2016, 06:55:49 PM
Quote from: shaker on October 17, 2016, 06:41:19 PM
Quote from: Money Shot on October 17, 2016, 04:58:45 PM
Quote from: Nige on October 17, 2016, 04:50:27 PM
Can't wait to see the Giants' NEAFL side play AFL next season!
Probably a better side than Richmond ;)

Yes the Tiges were shower this year , and the Blues were so much better ?  ::)
Hahaha we won 7 in a row at least (I think)
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: shaker on October 17, 2016, 07:00:31 PM
Quote from: Money Shot on October 17, 2016, 06:55:49 PM
Quote from: shaker on October 17, 2016, 06:41:19 PM
Quote from: Money Shot on October 17, 2016, 04:58:45 PM
Quote from: Nige on October 17, 2016, 04:50:27 PM
Can't wait to see the Giants' NEAFL side play AFL next season!
Probably a better side than Richmond ;)

Yes the Tiges were shower this year , and the Blues were so much better ?  ::)
Hahaha we won 7 in a row at least (I think)

Well you won 7 , in a row maybe not otherwise that means losing a hell of lot in a row as well  :P
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: RaisyDaisy on October 17, 2016, 09:42:06 PM
Essendon haven't given up hope of snaring JOM from hawthorn and are potentially looking to trump hawthorn according to HS
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Dudge on October 17, 2016, 10:27:12 PM
Lets get to the serious stuff, WTF are Port doing?  :P
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: RiOtChEsS on October 17, 2016, 10:30:37 PM
Quote from: Dudge on October 17, 2016, 10:27:12 PM
Lets get to the serious stuff, WTF are Port doing?  :P
u send me ollie wines, il send you bryce gibbs an il sweaten the deal with a couple pizzas an a 6pk :D
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: iZander on October 17, 2016, 10:31:00 PM
Quote from: Dudge on October 17, 2016, 10:27:12 PM
Lets get to the serious stuff, WTF are Port doing?  :P
Why dont they go get south Australian GHS :(
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Koop on October 17, 2016, 10:39:39 PM
Quote from: Dudge on October 17, 2016, 10:27:12 PM
Lets get to the serious stuff, WTF are Port doing?  :P

Realising they have no money? :p
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: RiOtChEsS on October 18, 2016, 10:56:32 AM
Hanley deal done
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Purple 77 on October 18, 2016, 10:57:01 AM
Trade radio reporting this trade has been done:

Brisbane get: Port Adelaide's future first rounder & Pick 22
Port Adelaide get: Pick 19 + Pick 30
Gold Coast get: Hanley + Pick 67

Brisbane lose: Hanley, Pick 19
Gold Coast lose: Pick 22 + Pick 30
Port Adelaide lose: 2017 first rounder + Pick 67


Is it just me, or does Port Adelaide really lose out on that deal?
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Nige on October 18, 2016, 10:57:13 AM
Quote from: RiOtChEsS on October 18, 2016, 10:56:32 AM
Hanley deal done
Yep.

(http://s.afl.com.au/staticfile/AFL%20Tenant/PortAdelaide/Images/inout.png)
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Nige on October 18, 2016, 10:58:46 AM
Next year's draft is better than this year's as well.

Lions would be happy with that one.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Money Shot on October 18, 2016, 11:08:24 AM
Brisbane wins that one for sure!
Port will have a shocker next year in my opinion!
Top 5 pick for Hanley essentially ::)
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: TomK on October 18, 2016, 11:09:58 AM
Never change Port
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: PowerBug on October 18, 2016, 11:11:51 AM
Oh Port Adelaide....

I know we all said lets get deals done, but I liked it better when this deal wasn't done...
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Holz on October 18, 2016, 11:14:31 AM
Quote from: Money Shot on October 18, 2016, 11:08:24 AM
Brisbane wins that one for sure!
Port will have a shocker next year in my opinion!
Top 5 pick for Hanley essentially ::)

not sure i agree.

They had a pretty healthy percentage with 106% despite being 10-12.

Ryder back in will help, cant see any reason why they would fall more. Expect them to be around that 9-10 spot

still was a bad trade though

trading 10 67 for 19 30 doesnt look good.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: PowerBug on October 18, 2016, 11:15:55 AM
If it was 19 and 22 (so swap what picks the Lions and Power get from the Suns) I'd feel better about it. But unless we get 3 good draftees and finish in the 8 next year it'll be a bad one for us.

Also according to Champion Data of all clubs best 22 played this season, Ports was ranked 8th. However like Holz said I think we will be mid table again, North should drop, but no reason why Melbourne, Freo, Carlton even Essendon  can't finish above us next year as well.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Nige on October 18, 2016, 11:26:28 AM
Apparently Toby Nankervis has requested a trade to Richmond.

What a time to be alive!
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: RaisyDaisy on October 18, 2016, 11:31:18 AM
Quote from: Nige on October 18, 2016, 11:26:28 AM
Apparently Toby Nankervis has requested a trade to Richmond.

What a time to be alive!

Should be good for 6 touches, 8 hit outs (1 to advantage) and 1 mark per game
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: PowerBug on October 18, 2016, 11:34:13 AM
How did Port trade with GC but not manage to hand over Brendan Ah Chee?
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Nige on October 18, 2016, 11:37:49 AM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on October 18, 2016, 11:31:18 AM
Quote from: Nige on October 18, 2016, 11:26:28 AM
Apparently Toby Nankervis has requested a trade to Richmond.

What a time to be alive!

Should be good for 6 touches, 8 hit outs (1 to advantage) and 1 mark per game
Wow, settle. We can't all have Nic Naitanuis or Max Gawns.

Would rather get in a young ruck than go on with just Hammer and Ivvy next season.

Nank's not the most mobile ruck going around, but he's got potential and is something to work with rather than relying on two injury prone fellas who won't be a part of our future.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: elephants on October 18, 2016, 11:39:40 AM
Yeah Nanks gonna be good. If the Tiges can wrap him up cheaply it'll be a great bit of business
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: SydneyRox on October 18, 2016, 11:50:39 AM
Quote from: Nige on October 18, 2016, 11:37:49 AM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on October 18, 2016, 11:31:18 AM
Quote from: Nige on October 18, 2016, 11:26:28 AM
Apparently Toby Nankervis has requested a trade to Richmond.

What a time to be alive!

Should be good for 6 touches, 8 hit outs (1 to advantage) and 1 mark per game
Wow, settle. We can't all have Nic Naitanuis or Max Gawns.

Would rather get in a young ruck than go on with just Hammer and Ivvy next season.

Nank's not the most mobile ruck going around, but he's got potential and is something to work with rather than relying on two injury prone fellas who won't be a part of our future.

I like him, but I guess he would rather play for the Tigers than in the NEAFL.... go figure??!! :P

Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Nige on October 18, 2016, 11:59:39 AM
Quote from: elephants on October 18, 2016, 11:39:40 AM
Yeah Nanks gonna be good. If the Tiges can wrap him up cheaply it'll be a great bit of business
The article on the AFL site reckons a late second or early third round pick should get it done, and we've got 27 and 46. I assume we'll try do it with 46.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Nige on October 18, 2016, 12:18:45 PM
Lewis is a Demon.

http://www.melbournefc.com.au/news/2016-10-18/lewis-lands-at-melbourne

Brett Anderson ‏@BrettAndersonIF  5s6 seconds ago
Lewis officially a Demon. Hawks receive No.48 and 66. Dees get Lewis, No.57 and 68. #TradeSENtral
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Purple 77 on October 18, 2016, 12:19:24 PM
 :D :D :D
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Bill Manspeaker on October 18, 2016, 12:31:25 PM
(https://m.popkey.co/6fa5ab/GMdr1.gif)

drop Hawks... drop...
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: powersuperkents on October 18, 2016, 12:32:24 PM
Quote from: PowerBug on October 18, 2016, 11:34:13 AM
How did Port trade with GC but not manage to hand over Brendan Ah Chee?
+1

If it was our 2017 2nd Rounder it would be a good trade, however, the only way this would be somewhat worthwhile is if we finished in the top 4 and made the prelim next season...

Remember that we didn't have a second rounder this year because of the Dixon trade, so upgrading pick 67 to 30 could be valuable if we nail the pick.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: RiOtChEsS on October 18, 2016, 12:54:20 PM
Quote from: Bill Manspeaker on October 18, 2016, 12:31:25 PM
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Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: JBs-Hawks on October 18, 2016, 12:56:27 PM
Hawthorn are flowering useless at trading
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Big Mac on October 18, 2016, 01:09:33 PM
Quote from: Purple 77 on October 18, 2016, 12:19:24 PM
:D :D :D
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: PowerBug on October 18, 2016, 01:15:11 PM
Quote from: powersuperkents on October 18, 2016, 12:32:24 PM
Quote from: PowerBug on October 18, 2016, 11:34:13 AM
How did Port trade with GC but not manage to hand over Brendan Ah Chee?
+1

If it was our 2017 2nd Rounder it would be a good trade, however, the only way this would be somewhat worthwhile is if we finished in the top 4 and made the prelim next season...

Remember that we didn't have a second rounder this year because of the Dixon trade, so upgrading pick 67 to 30 could be valuable if we nail the pick.
If we gave away Ah Chee instead of 17 1st rounder (Would have to cause more juggling though) or we got 22 and not 30 from GC, it would look better for us.

In fact isn't the Pick 30 that we got back the one we gave to GC for Dixon?

If I had to pick right now whether that 2017 first rounder would be pick 5 or pick 14, I'm saying it's going to be closer to 5 at this stage...
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: RaisyDaisy on October 18, 2016, 01:57:10 PM
Lewis live stream about to begin

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Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: RaisyDaisy on October 18, 2016, 03:12:53 PM
JOM and Prestia deals are close to being done

Dunn to Collingwood looking likely too
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: valkorum on October 18, 2016, 03:37:35 PM
Hamling deal apparently done.  2nd round pick and a late round pick swap

Edit

Freo get Hamling, Pick #40, Pick #63
Bulldogs get Pick #35, Pick #43, Pick #61
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: RaisyDaisy on October 18, 2016, 03:51:34 PM
James Stewart has nominated Essendon
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: meow meow on October 18, 2016, 04:05:28 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on October 18, 2016, 03:51:34 PM
James Stewart has nominated Essendon

Smart man. There's a spot for him and they're capable of anything next year and beyond.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Koop on October 18, 2016, 04:09:32 PM
What was that trade Port, holy flower.  :o
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: TomK on October 18, 2016, 07:02:21 PM
Gonna be a hectic final two days with all the players yet to move, can't wait!
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: lachie_001 on October 18, 2016, 07:06:23 PM
Adel In: Gibbs, 25, 62
Adel Out: Lyons, 13, 53, 71

Carl In: Marchbank, Pickett, Pick 15
Carl Out: Gibbs, 25, 45, 58

GWS In: 13, 26, 45, 53, 58, 71 (+396 excl. 13)
GWS Out: Marchbank, Pickett, 15

GC In: Lyons
GC Out: 26, 62
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Mat0369 on October 18, 2016, 07:17:31 PM
Umm, why would Carlton give their 2nd round pick and Gibbs to Adelaide to get a slightly worse 2nd round pick which they will then trade to GWS? That makes 0 sense.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: meow meow on October 18, 2016, 07:19:46 PM
Who is left?

Gibbs?
Rocky? unlikely
Koby
Hrovat
Pickett
Marchbank
Hoskin-Elliott
Palmer
Stewart
Witts
Prestia
JOM
Vardy
Nank
Richards
Mackenzie
Brown
Silvagni
Lids?
Tuohy
Kersten
Lyons
CEY
Ah Choo
Cloke
Dunn
Grigg
Marsh
Hibberd
Lonergan?

Then the delisted FA's

Barlow
Petrie
Wilbur
Green
Grimes
Henderson
Dempsey?
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Ricochet on October 18, 2016, 07:41:39 PM
 
Quote from: Nige on October 18, 2016, 10:58:46 AM
Next year's draft is better than this year's as well.

Lions would be happy with that one.
Really? Brett Anderson just said this one was deeper?
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: lachie_001 on October 18, 2016, 07:48:15 PM
Quote from: Mat0369 on October 18, 2016, 07:17:31 PM
Umm, why would Carlton give their 2nd round pick and Softie to Adelaide to get a slightly worse 2nd round pick which they will then trade to GWS? That makes 0 sense.
Carlton are essentially getting
Marchbank, 15 for Softie, 25
Pickett for 45 and 58
That's fair value
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: JBs-Hawks on October 18, 2016, 07:50:10 PM
Quote from: lachie_001 on October 18, 2016, 07:48:15 PM
Quote from: Mat0369 on October 18, 2016, 07:17:31 PM
Umm, why would Carlton give their 2nd round pick and Softie to Adelaide to get a slightly worse 2nd round pick which they will then trade to GWS? That makes 0 sense.
Carlton are essentially getting
Marchbank for Softie
Pickett for 45 and 58
And upgrade 25 to 15?
That's fair value

Bryce > Marchbank + Pickett + pick upgrade
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: lachie_001 on October 18, 2016, 07:55:26 PM
Quote from: JBs-Hawks on October 18, 2016, 07:50:10 PM
Quote from: lachie_001 on October 18, 2016, 07:48:15 PM
Quote from: Mat0369 on October 18, 2016, 07:17:31 PM
Umm, why would Carlton give their 2nd round pick and Softie to Adelaide to get a slightly worse 2nd round pick which they will then trade to GWS? That makes 0 sense.
Carlton are essentially getting
Marchbank for Softie
Pickett for 45 and 58
And upgrade 25 to 15?
That's fair value

Bryce > Marchbank + Pickett + pick upgrade
Hahahahah no he's not, Marchbank (pick 6) and Pickett (Pick 4) have only been in the AFL for two season. Not every 20 year old can have the same impact as the Bont in two seasons. Not to mention Gibbs is 28..
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Mat0369 on October 18, 2016, 07:56:18 PM
And there is no reason for 25 to head to head to Adelaide when we can keep it and get the same result.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Mat0369 on October 18, 2016, 07:58:56 PM
Quote from: JBs-Hawks on October 18, 2016, 07:50:10 PM
Bryce > Marchbank + Pickett + pick upgrade

and this. Adelaide are dreaming if they think Carlton will trade them Gibbs for a mid round first and a downgraded 2nd round pick.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: RaisyDaisy on October 18, 2016, 08:13:48 PM
Marchbank is getting rated so highly. Worth a 16-25 pick imo

Hasn't been able to break into GWS

Plowman went at 3, and we're seeing how average he is. And when I say average I'm referring to being a top 3 pick so I can't see how marchbank is worth more



Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: lachie_001 on October 18, 2016, 08:16:55 PM
Just heard on radio from scoop that Gibbs trade might go down tomorrow:

Gibbs + 25 for 13 + 2017 1st Round Pick

If true definetely feels like overs for Gibbs
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: RaisyDaisy on October 18, 2016, 08:17:18 PM
My Point: Just because a player is a high pick from previous years doesn't mean they're still worth the same now

5 for Marchbank which has what been mainly floated seems insane. Add Pickett and it's getting fairer, but even then I'd back this year's 5 to be better than both of them
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: PowerBug on October 18, 2016, 08:17:38 PM
If Port Adelaide make another dodgy trade I'm logging out without saving and I haven't saved this RL football game since 2014 ended so real life will revert to when everything was good then :D
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: RaisyDaisy on October 18, 2016, 08:20:09 PM
Quote from: lachie_001 on October 18, 2016, 08:16:55 PM
Just heard on radio from scoop that Softie trade might go down tomorrow:

Softie + 25 for 13 + 2017 1st Round Pick

If true definetely feels like overs for Softie

Might be overs, but in 12 months time your mob could quite easily get a 1st rounder from another club

12 months is a long time

Gibbs and a second rounder is solid for you guys
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: kilbluff1985 on October 18, 2016, 08:21:55 PM
yeah i think thats a good deal for both clubs
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: RaisyDaisy on October 18, 2016, 08:22:04 PM
Look at it like this

13 + 13 (possibly higher) for Gibbs + 25

Good for both clubs imo
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: TomK on October 18, 2016, 08:23:42 PM
Quote from: PowerBug on October 18, 2016, 08:17:38 PM
If Port Adelaide make another dodgy trade I'm logging out without saving and I haven't saved this RL football game since 2014 ended so real life will revert to when everything was good then :D
You re-signed Tom Jonas for 3 years, that's just as bad as another dodgy trade ;D
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Mat0369 on October 18, 2016, 08:26:31 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on October 18, 2016, 08:17:18 PM
My Point: Just because a player is a high pick from previous years doesn't mean they're still worth the same now

5 for Marchbank which has what been mainly floated seems insane. Add Pickett and it's getting fairer, but even then I'd back this year's 5 to be better than both of them

If Carlton were dealing 5 they would be getting the GWS pick late in the first as part of the return. To be fair to Marchbank injuries are probably the only reason he isn't playing for them. Like you said with Plowman, these guys are often injured and unproven. Plowman has been really solid for us so I have been really happy with him at the Blues.

Carlton would probably ask for another player like Grigg and late pick upgrade in that deal if it was to go through. SOS is adamant thatnhe wants a player.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Mat0369 on October 18, 2016, 08:29:38 PM
And  by late picks I mean the ones teams pass on
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: TomK on October 18, 2016, 08:50:05 PM
Quote from: TomK on October 11, 2016, 08:06:44 PM
Like I responded to a post on the Crows board, I would have a think about Pick 13 + 2017 1st for Softie + Pick 24, which I think is more than fair, leaning in your favour.
Called it 8)

Although I hope we get the Blues 2017 2nd rounder instead
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Mat0369 on October 18, 2016, 08:50:37 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on October 18, 2016, 08:22:04 PM
Look at it like this

13 + 13 (possibly higher) for Softie + 25

Good for both clubs imo

If you actually look at it like that and take the picks into account at those numbers using the points system it rates Gibbs equal to pick 7 in the draft.

The other thing most people don't look at with future pick trades is their diminished value. Every other sport that uses this system accounts for a future pick to be rated the round below where they actually are. So for example a future first is the equivalent to this years 2nd.  The reason being if a team wins a grand final the pick is a lot lower so you have to take it at its lowest possible value and not its highest. It could always backfire like it did with Collingwood but that is the risk you take. If you use this system then Adelaide is basically getting Gibbs for pick 10/11 which is a steal.

Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Mat0369 on October 18, 2016, 08:54:46 PM
Quote from: TomK on October 18, 2016, 08:50:05 PM
Called it 8)

Although I hope we get the Blues 2017 2nd rounder instead

If the trade is to go through I still reckon there will be some added pieces. Probably something like

Bryce, 25, 81 and maybe a future 4th or 5th

for

13, future 1st, 71 and Grigg

Basically the late round picks mean jack and it's a 4th or 5th (most likely a 4th) added on for Grigg who I think we were looking at in a separate deal anyway. 
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Nige on October 18, 2016, 09:07:10 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on October 18, 2016, 07:41:39 PM
Quote from: Nige on October 18, 2016, 10:58:46 AM
Next year's draft is better than this year's as well.

Lions would be happy with that one.
Really? Brett Anderson just said this one was deeper?
There's probably not a huge difference, I like some of the guy's coming through though. Dunno how PK feels about them, he's a bigger talent watcher than I am. Top end talent next year is really good so in the context of Port's pick and where they might finish, it's a pretty big risk.

They're probably expecting to improve heaps next season or trade their way back in to the first round next season, both perfectly reasonable ideas too so I guess we gotta wait and see.

Personally don't really see the benefit in Port getting involved in the trade apart from the fact that they now have 3 picks in the top 30 this year.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: fanTCfool on October 18, 2016, 09:10:45 PM
Here's a question for Crows fans, would you prefer Rockliff or G¡bbs?  Ignoring what you'd have to put up in return.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: TomK on October 18, 2016, 09:20:22 PM
Quote from: fanTCfool on October 18, 2016, 09:10:45 PM
Here's a question for Crows fans, would you prefer Rockliff or G¡bbs?  Ignoring what you'd have to put up in return.
Gibbs
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Money Shot on October 18, 2016, 09:31:52 PM
Quote from: lachie_001 on October 18, 2016, 07:06:23 PM
Adel In: Softie, 25, 62
Adel Out: Lyons, 13, 53, 71

Carl In: Marchbank, Pickett, Pick 15
Carl Out: Softie, 25, 45, 58

GWS In: 13, 26, 45, 53, 58, 71 (+396 excl. 13)
GWS Out: Marchbank, Pickett, 15

GC In: Lyons
GC Out: 26, 62

Is there any truth to this or is it just a thought?
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Jay on October 18, 2016, 09:38:49 PM
Quote from: fanTCfool on October 18, 2016, 09:10:45 PM
Here's a question for Crows fans, would you prefer Rockliff or G¡bbs?  Ignoring what you'd have to put up in return.
Gibbs
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: kilbluff1985 on October 18, 2016, 10:10:43 PM
Quote from: Jay on October 18, 2016, 09:38:49 PM
Quote from: fanTCfool on October 18, 2016, 09:10:45 PM
Here's a question for Crows fans, would you prefer Rockliff or G¡bbs?  Ignoring what you'd have to put up in return.
Softie

yeah i guess matt crouch is a younger Rocky
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: lachie_001 on October 19, 2016, 02:01:13 AM
Quote from: Money Shot on October 18, 2016, 09:31:52 PM
Quote from: lachie_001 on October 18, 2016, 07:06:23 PM
Adel In: Softie, 25, 62
Adel Out: Lyons, 13, 53, 71

Carl In: Marchbank, Pickett, Pick 15
Carl Out: Softie, 25, 45, 58

GWS In: 13, 26, 45, 53, 58, 71 (+396 excl. 13)
GWS Out: Marchbank, Pickett, 15

GC In: Lyons
GC Out: 26, 62

Is there any truth to this or is it just a thought?
Was just a thought :P
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: shaker on October 19, 2016, 09:41:49 AM
See some ex crow players are saying Softie is not exactly what you need you already have M Crouch who is a young Gibb's in the making , it was evident in the finals that you could not get the ball in the middle , Thomson has been great but is to old now B Crouch just has not been consistent leaving only Sloane to me Rockliff was the player you needed to really have a crack at a flag , the only reason all the talk has been about getting Softie is because he wants to come home
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Holz on October 19, 2016, 10:41:31 AM
Quote from: shaker on October 19, 2016, 09:41:49 AM
See some ex crow players are saying Softie is not exactly what you need you already have M Crouch who is a young Gibb's in the making , it was evident in the finals that you could not get the ball in the middle , Thomson has been great but is to old now B Crouch just has not been consistent leaving only Sloane to me Rockliff was the player you needed to really have a crack at a flag , the only reason all the talk has been about getting Softie is because he wants to come home

I reckon they could use a guy like Danger.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: shaker on October 19, 2016, 10:49:02 AM
Quote from: Holz on October 19, 2016, 10:41:31 AM
Quote from: shaker on October 19, 2016, 09:41:49 AM
See some ex crow players are saying Softie is not exactly what you need you already have M Crouch who is a young Gibb's in the making , it was evident in the finals that you could not get the ball in the middle , Thomson has been great but is to old now B Crouch just has not been consistent leaving only Sloane to me Rockliff was the player you needed to really have a crack at a flag , the only reason all the talk has been about getting Softie is because he wants to come home

I reckon they could use a guy like Danger.

I know 17 other teams that could use him.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Purple 77 on October 19, 2016, 10:53:48 AM
Hibberd is a Dee  :D
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Nige on October 19, 2016, 11:00:58 AM
Quote from: Purple 77 on October 19, 2016, 10:53:48 AM
Hibberd is a Dee  :D
Yep. The Bombers have received picks 29 and 68 in return for Hibberd and pick 59.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: AaronKirk on October 19, 2016, 11:06:27 AM
Tony Cochrane is doing the media rounds stating that Hawthorn have offered picks 10 and 48 for JOM.

Cochrane has pissed on that offer (as he should) and said if Hawthorn don't offer a fair deal then they won't send him to Hawthorn and will send him to the draft.

I hope Dodoro is freeing up salary cap space.

According to Damien Barrett on NAB trade radio the GWS are going to offer a first round pick and have a crack at Deledio.

If Tom Mitchell is worth 14 then I would think lids is worth a similar pick. Pick 15 for Lids gives Richmond a 1st round pick after they give up 6 in the deal for Prestia which will likely be done today.

Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Jay on October 19, 2016, 11:10:25 AM
Quote from: shaker on October 19, 2016, 09:41:49 AM
See some ex crow players are saying Softie is not exactly what you need you already have M Crouch who is a young Gibb's in the making , it was evident in the finals that you could not get the ball in the middle , Thomson has been great but is to old now B Crouch just has not been consistent leaving only Sloane to me Rockliff was the player you needed to really have a crack at a flag , the only reason all the talk has been about getting Softie is because he wants to come home
MCrouch is a butcher, Gibbs is class. We don't have a huge problem extracting the footy, just struggle to do anything with it!
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Holz on October 19, 2016, 11:32:54 AM
Quote from: Jay on October 19, 2016, 11:10:25 AM
Quote from: shaker on October 19, 2016, 09:41:49 AM
See some ex crow players are saying Softie is not exactly what you need you already have M Crouch who is a young Gibb's in the making , it was evident in the finals that you could not get the ball in the middle , Thomson has been great but is to old now B Crouch just has not been consistent leaving only Sloane to me Rockliff was the player you needed to really have a crack at a flag , the only reason all the talk has been about getting Softie is because he wants to come home
MCrouch is a butcher, Softie is class. We don't have a huge problem extracting the footy, just struggle to do anything with it!

give Brad a full preseason i agree with Jay I would back in Brad Sloane.

Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: jvalles69 on October 19, 2016, 12:15:25 PM
Quote from: Holz on October 19, 2016, 11:32:54 AM
Quote from: Jay on October 19, 2016, 11:10:25 AM
Quote from: shaker on October 19, 2016, 09:41:49 AM
See some ex crow players are saying Softie is not exactly what you need you already have M Crouch who is a young Gibb's in the making , it was evident in the finals that you could not get the ball in the middle , Thomson has been great but is to old now B Crouch just has not been consistent leaving only Sloane to me Rockliff was the player you needed to really have a crack at a flag , the only reason all the talk has been about getting Softie is because he wants to come home
MCrouch is a butcher, Softie is class. We don't have a huge problem extracting the footy, just struggle to do anything with it!

give Brad a full preseason i agree with Jay I would back in Brad Sloane.

Agreed, those guys are more the extractor types, noone to move the play efficiently from the middle to half forward and beyond.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: RiOtChEsS on October 19, 2016, 12:42:42 PM
Quote from: jvalles69 on October 19, 2016, 12:15:25 PM
Quote from: Holz on October 19, 2016, 11:32:54 AM
Quote from: Jay on October 19, 2016, 11:10:25 AM
Quote from: shaker on October 19, 2016, 09:41:49 AM
See some ex crow players are saying Softie is not exactly what you need you already have M Crouch who is a young Gibb's in the making , it was evident in the finals that you could not get the ball in the middle , Thomson has been great but is to old now B Crouch just has not been consistent leaving only Sloane to me Rockliff was the player you needed to really have a crack at a flag , the only reason all the talk has been about getting Softie is because he wants to come home
MCrouch is a butcher, Softie is class. We don't have a huge problem extracting the footy, just struggle to do anything with it!

give Brad a full preseason i agree with Jay I would back in Brad Sloane.

Agreed, those guys are more the extractor types, noone to move the play efficiently from the middle to half forward and beyond.
Tyson Edwards, doyoueven watch footy bro ;D
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Nige on October 19, 2016, 01:04:23 PM
Nathan Schmook ‏@NathanSchmook  28s29 seconds ago
Nathan Vardy has settled on West Coast as his preferred club. Expect Cats to be offered WC’s 4th round pick (72).
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: RaisyDaisy on October 19, 2016, 01:23:27 PM
Quote from: Nige on October 19, 2016, 01:04:23 PM
Nathan Schmook ‏@NathanSchmook  28s29 seconds ago
Nathan Vardy has settled on West Coast as his preferred club. Expect Cats to be offered WC’s 4th round pick (72).

Happy to take him considering he won't cost much, but not expecting more than 5 games a year :P

Still need a ruck - hope we can lure Wilbur
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: jvalles69 on October 19, 2016, 01:26:15 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on October 19, 2016, 01:23:27 PM
Quote from: Nige on October 19, 2016, 01:04:23 PM
Nathan Schmook ‏@NathanSchmook  28s29 seconds ago
Nathan Vardy has settled on West Coast as his preferred club. Expect Cats to be offered WC’s 4th round pick (72).

Happy to take him considering he won't cost much, but not expecting more than 5 games a year :P

Still need a ruck - hope we can lure Wilbur

Yeah, he's definitely not the answer.  We still have Giles on the books right?  No point getting another back up ruckman you would think...
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Nige on October 19, 2016, 01:29:34 PM
Dion Prestia to Richmond deal is done.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: RaisyDaisy on October 19, 2016, 01:30:10 PM
Prestia + 24 for 6 + future 2nd rounder done, according to HS
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Nige on October 19, 2016, 01:33:12 PM
 8) 8) 8)
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: PowerBug on October 19, 2016, 01:40:54 PM
So Prestia for 6 considering Richmond will get ~24 next season
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Holz on October 19, 2016, 01:42:29 PM
Quote from: PowerBug on October 19, 2016, 01:40:54 PM
So Prestia for 6 considering Richmond will get ~24 next season

I reckon tiges if they keep lids could be a smokey next year just depends on yarran lids.

bring in Prestia Yarran and then have a healthy lids, could do some major damage.

Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: iZander on October 19, 2016, 01:45:29 PM
Quote from: Holz on October 19, 2016, 01:42:29 PM
Quote from: PowerBug on October 19, 2016, 01:40:54 PM
So Prestia for 6 considering Richmond will get ~24 next season

I reckon tiges if they keep lids could be a smokey next year just depends on yarran lids.

bring in Prestia Yarran and then have a healthy lids, could do some major damage.

Ill have to disagree :P they really cant do any damage
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: shaker on October 19, 2016, 01:46:19 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on October 19, 2016, 01:30:10 PM
Prestia + 24 for 6 + future 2nd rounder done, according to HS

Finally and the second rounder is handy , if this talk of Lids to GWS for a 1st round pick is true we will have some ammo for the draft plus we might be able to squeeze a player or a later pick out of GWS as well Lids is a high quality player add Nankervis if we can land him as well this will be the best trade period for the Tiges in a long time  ;D
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: elephants on October 19, 2016, 01:48:56 PM
Quote from: jvalles69 on October 19, 2016, 01:26:15 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on October 19, 2016, 01:23:27 PM
Quote from: Nige on October 19, 2016, 01:04:23 PM
Nathan Schmook ‏@NathanSchmook  28s29 seconds ago
Nathan Vardy has settled on West Coast as his preferred club. Expect Cats to be offered WC’s 4th round pick (72).

Happy to take him considering he won't cost much, but not expecting more than 5 games a year :P

Still need a ruck - hope we can lure Wilbur

Yeah, he's definitely not the answer.  We still have Giles on the books right?  No point getting another back up ruckman you would think...

Yeah nah I like this. Vardy is hugely talented, and at 25 yrs old Geelong have basically done all the development for us. He costs nothing, so having Lycett, Vardy, Giles as a ruck combo next season is fine imo, then we draft a young kid or even another mature ager to develop as a fourth choice.

Got through 14 games this season so thats a definite improvement. With a change of scenery who knows what happens!
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: shaker on October 19, 2016, 02:01:33 PM
Quote from: Holz on October 19, 2016, 01:42:29 PM
Quote from: PowerBug on October 19, 2016, 01:40:54 PM
So Prestia for 6 considering Richmond will get ~24 next season

I reckon tiges if they keep lids could be a smokey next year just depends on yarran lids.

bring in Prestia Yarran and then have a healthy lids, could do some major damage.



Yeah maybe but don't think you can put to much hope in Yarran he has had to many issues in his career lazy inconsistent at the Blues turned up to the Tiges overweight and out of shape and not a game he is just about cooked but you never know , the coach has to stop games where they are insipid and uncompetitive  like late this year more a concern to me but it is looking like a much better trade period for us this year
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Jroo on October 19, 2016, 02:06:26 PM
Also looks like we could be getting Caddy in, which would be great if it doesn't cost us Lids
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Nige on October 19, 2016, 02:12:59 PM
Quote from: JROO8 on October 19, 2016, 02:06:26 PM
Also looks like we could be getting Caddy in, which would be great if it doesn't cost us Lids
It won't be Lids. Cats can't fit him in under their salary cap, which is the reason Caddy might actually be squeezed out.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: _wato on October 19, 2016, 02:14:52 PM
Richmond do damage Holz?

What? Bad bad call
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: shaker on October 19, 2016, 02:15:17 PM
Quote from: JROO8 on October 19, 2016, 02:06:26 PM
Also looks like we could be getting Caddy in, which would be great if it doesn't cost us Lids

The Cats wanted Lids and 2nd round pick for Caddy haha they can keep him but Lids seems to be creating some more late interest and so he should he is a high quality player Tiges have to drive a hard bargain if he is to go like the Blues and Gibbs
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: elephants on October 19, 2016, 02:17:46 PM
Quote from: Nige on October 19, 2016, 02:12:59 PM
Quote from: JROO8 on October 19, 2016, 02:06:26 PM
Also looks like we could be getting Caddy in, which would be great if it doesn't cost us Lids
It won't be Lids. Cats can't fit him in under their salary cap, which is the reason Caddy might actually be squeezed out.

Would be a great get for the Tiges, and a big loss for the Cats. Especially since they've unloaded a shower-load of picks/future picks/young talent for Danger/Henderson/etc.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: _wato on October 19, 2016, 02:21:21 PM
Broken high quality player ***
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Scrads on October 19, 2016, 02:25:16 PM
GC: Hawks, we simply won't accept picks only for JOM. Any deal must include an established and experienced player. We also aren't interested in your first rounder from next year.

Also GC: Here you go Richmond, have Prestia for picks only (including your second rounder from next year).
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: SydneyRox on October 19, 2016, 02:28:00 PM
Quote from: Scrads on October 19, 2016, 02:25:16 PM
GC: Hawks, we simply won't accept picks only for JOM. Any deal must include an established and experienced player. We also aren't interested in your first rounder from next year.

Also GC: Here you go Richmond, have Prestia for picks only (including your second rounder from next year).

In fairness, not sure there is all that much to like about the richmond list you would take....  :P
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Ringo on October 19, 2016, 02:28:27 PM
Quote from: Nige on October 18, 2016, 09:07:10 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on October 18, 2016, 07:41:39 PM
Quote from: Nige on October 18, 2016, 10:58:46 AM
Next year's draft is better than this year's as well.

Lions would be happy with that one.
Really? Brett Anderson just said this one was deeper?
There's probably not a huge difference, I like some of the guy's coming through though. Dunno how PK feels about them, he's a bigger talent watcher than I am. Top end talent next year is really good so in the context of Port's pick and where they might finish, it's a pretty big risk.

They're probably expecting to improve heaps next season or trade their way back in to the first round next season, both perfectly reasonable ideas too so I guess we gotta wait and see.

Personally don't really see the benefit in Port getting involved in the trade apart from the fact that they now have 3 picks in the top 30 this year.
Still with no Internet.  We need to stockpile some picks for next year due to academy player who will command an early pick.  So happy with trade.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Rusty00 on October 19, 2016, 02:32:03 PM
Quote from: SydneyRox on October 19, 2016, 02:28:00 PM
Quote from: Scrads on October 19, 2016, 02:25:16 PM
GC: Hawks, we simply won't accept picks only for JOM. Any deal must include an established and experienced player. We also aren't interested in your first rounder from next year.

Also GC: Here you go Richmond, have Prestia for picks only (including your second rounder from next year).

In fairness, not sure there is all that much to like about the richmond list you would take....  :P
We already picked up their best player as a free agent ;D
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: TomK on October 19, 2016, 02:35:59 PM
Lyons requests a trade to the Suns, good get for them, hope he goes well!
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Nige on October 19, 2016, 02:36:52 PM
Quote from: Rusty00 on October 19, 2016, 02:32:03 PM
Quote from: SydneyRox on October 19, 2016, 02:28:00 PM
Quote from: Scrads on October 19, 2016, 02:25:16 PM
GC: Hawks, we simply won't accept picks only for JOM. Any deal must include an established and experienced player. We also aren't interested in your first rounder from next year.

Also GC: Here you go Richmond, have Prestia for picks only (including your second rounder from next year).

In fairness, not sure there is all that much to like about the richmond list you would take....  :P
We already picked up their best player as a free agent ;D
We on-traded Dion already? :o
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: kilbluff1985 on October 19, 2016, 02:38:57 PM
Caddy for Lids deal suits both teams

Cats trying for a flag and Tigers trying to go younger
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: GoLions on October 19, 2016, 02:42:22 PM
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on October 19, 2016, 02:38:57 PM
Caddy for Lids deal suits both teams

Cats trying for a flag and Tigers trying to go younger
Lids isn't going to the Cats because it doesn't help their cap issues and apparently they're not too keen on Lids anyways

He's in Sydney atm meeting with the Giants I believe
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Jay on October 19, 2016, 02:51:01 PM
If we can't get Gibbs then we absolutely have to keep Lyons. Pay him what he wants, Adelaide!
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: AaronKirk on October 19, 2016, 02:57:24 PM
Quote from: GoLions on October 19, 2016, 02:42:22 PM
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on October 19, 2016, 02:38:57 PM
Caddy for Lids deal suits both teams

Cats trying for a flag and Tigers trying to go younger
Lids isn't going to the Cats because it doesn't help their cap issues and apparently they're not too keen on Lids anyways

He's in Sydney atm meeting with the Giants I believe

3 way deal which is a chance of happening.

GWS give pick 15 receive Deledio

Geelong give Caddy receive Pick 15

Richmond give Deledio receive Caddy

There may be other things added to that but I believe Richmond would take pick 15 for Lids and that they would offer that for Caddy which is overs so Geelong would take that.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: TomK on October 19, 2016, 03:01:00 PM
Quote from: Jay on October 19, 2016, 02:51:01 PM
If we can't get Softie then we absolutely have to keep Lyons. Pay him what he wants, Adelaide!
Maybe we have the Gibbs deal done and is being finalised now and that's why Lyons has requested a trade now? If we weren't getting Gibbs, we probably would have offered more to Lyons and he would've stayed.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Nige on October 19, 2016, 03:03:46 PM
Quote from: AaronKirk on October 19, 2016, 02:57:24 PM
Quote from: GoLions on October 19, 2016, 02:42:22 PM
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on October 19, 2016, 02:38:57 PM
Caddy for Lids deal suits both teams

Cats trying for a flag and Tigers trying to go younger
Lids isn't going to the Cats because it doesn't help their cap issues and apparently they're not too keen on Lids anyways

He's in Sydney atm meeting with the Giants I believe

3 way deal which is a chance of happening.

GWS give pick 15 receive Deledio

Geelong give Caddy receive Pick 15

Richmond give Deledio receive Caddy

There may be other things added to that but I believe Richmond would take pick 15 for Lids and that they would offer that for Caddy which is overs so Geelong would take that.
I think we'd want both 15 and Caddy. Makes sense too. Lids is worth a first rounder, but 15 is overs for Caddy so 24 or 27 is right.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Scrads on October 19, 2016, 03:07:15 PM
Would Carlton take pick 10 for Gibbs?

Hawks give 10 and 48
Hawks get JOM

Crows give Lyons and 13
Crows get Gibbs and 48

GC give JOM
GC get Lyons and 13

Carl give Gibbs
Carl get 10
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: shaker on October 19, 2016, 03:09:01 PM
Quote from: _wato on October 19, 2016, 02:21:21 PM
Broken high quality player ***

Didn't you guys just get a player that is 3 years older than Lids for 600K a year that has played way less football than Lids in the last 3 years  ::) bet the Pies would love Lids in there backline next year .. oh hang on you have no trades  :P
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: powersuperkents on October 19, 2016, 03:11:31 PM
Quote from: SydneyRox on October 19, 2016, 02:28:00 PM
Quote from: Scrads on October 19, 2016, 02:25:16 PM
GC: Hawks, we simply won't accept picks only for JOM. Any deal must include an established and experienced player. We also aren't interested in your first rounder from next year.

Also GC: Here you go Richmond, have Prestia for picks only (including your second rounder from next year).

In fairness, not sure there is all that much to like about the richmond list you would take....  :P
Come on, they have the guy with only two facial expressions haha
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: shaker on October 19, 2016, 03:13:27 PM
Quote from: Nige on October 19, 2016, 03:03:46 PM
Quote from: AaronKirk on October 19, 2016, 02:57:24 PM
Quote from: GoLions on October 19, 2016, 02:42:22 PM
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on October 19, 2016, 02:38:57 PM
Caddy for Lids deal suits both teams

Cats trying for a flag and Tigers trying to go younger
Lids isn't going to the Cats because it doesn't help their cap issues and apparently they're not too keen on Lids anyways

He's in Sydney atm meeting with the Giants I believe

3 way deal which is a chance of happening.

GWS give pick 15 receive Deledio

Geelong give Caddy receive Pick 15

Richmond give Deledio receive Caddy

There may be other things added to that but I believe Richmond would take pick 15 for Lids and that they would offer that for Caddy which is overs so Geelong would take that.
I think we'd want both 15 and Caddy. Makes sense too. Lids is worth a first rounder, but 15 is overs for Caddy so 24 or 27 is right.

Cats said they wanted Lids and a 2nd for Caddy last week so I can't see them letting him go for a 2nd round
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: JBs-Hawks on October 19, 2016, 03:14:36 PM
Quote from: Scrads on October 19, 2016, 03:07:15 PM
Would Carlton take pick 10 for Softie?

Hawks give 10 and 48
Hawks get JOM

Crows give Lyons and 13
Crows get Softie and 48

GC give JOM
GC get Lyons and 13

Carl give Softie
Carl get 10

Seems fair enough for me :P
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Holz on October 19, 2016, 03:37:20 PM
Quote from: _wato on October 19, 2016, 02:14:52 PM
Richmond do damage Holz?

What? Bad bad call

they dont have a shocking list.

they have the best defender in the game in Rance. one of the best key forwards in Jroo. Dustin Martin is a top 10 player in the comp.

Houli missed half the year
Yarran is a game breaker so it depends if he plays or not
Prestia adds abit of grunt.
Lids missed half the year.

Im not saying they will do damage but they certainly have the talent to do so.

the only guy they lost is vickery and thats really a gain.

that 2nd rounder could be anything.

Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Levi434 on October 19, 2016, 04:12:31 PM
Quote from: Holz on October 19, 2016, 03:37:20 PM
the only guy they lost is vickery and thats really a gain.

This is a great call Holz ;D
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: kilbluff1985 on October 19, 2016, 04:12:50 PM
The Sydney Swans could swoop incredibly late for Gold Coast Suns midfielder Jaeger O'Meara with the Swans offering up Kurt Tippett, according to Tony Sheahan.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: elephants on October 19, 2016, 04:19:54 PM
Quote from: JBs-Hawks on October 19, 2016, 03:14:36 PM
Quote from: Scrads on October 19, 2016, 03:07:15 PM
Would Carlton take pick 10 for Softie?

Hawks give 10 and 48
Hawks get JOM

Crows give Lyons and 13
Crows get Softie and 48

GC give JOM
GC get Lyons and 13

Carl give Softie
Carl get 10

Seems fair enough for me :P

Unlikely they'd take 10 alone given they are chasing 13 + a good young player
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: jvalles69 on October 19, 2016, 04:21:33 PM
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on October 19, 2016, 04:12:50 PM
The Sydney Swans could swoop incredibly late for Gold Coast Suns midfielder Jaeger O'Meara with the Swans offering up Kurt Tippett, according to Tony Sheahan.

Saw this too, surely they can't move Tippett and Nankervis?  Stuck with Sinclair holding up the ruck, go ahead Sydney.  :o
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: GoLions on October 19, 2016, 04:24:48 PM
Quote from: jvalles69 on October 19, 2016, 04:21:33 PM
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on October 19, 2016, 04:12:50 PM
The Sydney Swans could swoop incredibly late for Gold Coast Suns midfielder Jaeger O'Meara with the Swans offering up Kurt Tippett, according to Tony Sheahan.

Saw this too, surely they can't move Tippett and Nankervis?  Stuck with Sinclair holding up the ruck, go ahead Sydney.  :o
Naismith #1 ruck and half the coaches in WXVs can give me compo :P
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: LF on October 19, 2016, 04:26:10 PM
Quote from: GoLions on October 19, 2016, 04:24:48 PM
Quote from: jvalles69 on October 19, 2016, 04:21:33 PM
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on October 19, 2016, 04:12:50 PM
The Sydney Swans could swoop incredibly late for Gold Coast Suns midfielder Jaeger O'Meara with the Swans offering up Kurt Tippett, according to Tony Sheahan.

Saw this too, surely they can't move Tippett and Nankervis?  Stuck with Sinclair holding up the ruck, go ahead Sydney.  :o
Naismith #1 ruck and half the coaches in WXVs can give me compo :P

Ok meow  :P
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: valkorum on October 19, 2016, 04:26:15 PM
Jimmy Bartel just retired.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Rusty00 on October 19, 2016, 04:26:22 PM
Quote from: jvalles69 on October 19, 2016, 04:21:33 PM
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on October 19, 2016, 04:12:50 PM
The Sydney Swans could swoop incredibly late for Gold Coast Suns midfielder Jaeger O'Meara with the Swans offering up Kurt Tippett, according to Tony Sheahan.

Saw this too, surely they can't move Tippett and Nankervis?  Stuck with Sinclair holding up the ruck, go ahead Sydney.  :o
I call BS. This has the smell of a piss-take based on the whole Tippett/wanting to be close to family/GC/Swans saga from a few years ago.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: iZander on October 19, 2016, 04:26:50 PM
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on October 19, 2016, 04:12:50 PM
The Sydney Swans could swoop incredibly late for Gold Coast Suns midfielder Jaeger O'Meara with the Swans offering up Kurt Tippett, according to Tony Sheahan.
yeah...no. Swans would be crazy to offer up Tippet and secondly JOM wants to go to a melbourne club otherwise he would just stay at GC..
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: elephants on October 19, 2016, 04:26:57 PM
Quote from: GoLions on October 19, 2016, 04:24:48 PM
Quote from: jvalles69 on October 19, 2016, 04:21:33 PM
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on October 19, 2016, 04:12:50 PM
The Sydney Swans could swoop incredibly late for Gold Coast Suns midfielder Jaeger O'Meara with the Swans offering up Kurt Tippett, according to Tony Sheahan.

Saw this too, surely they can't move Tippett and Nankervis?  Stuck with Sinclair holding up the ruck, go ahead Sydney.  :o
Naismith #1 ruck and half the coaches in WXVs can give me compo :P

@Meow #compo

We'd demand similar compo for a certain Taylor Adams for Pick 5 blockage a couple of seasons back!
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: jvalles69 on October 19, 2016, 04:27:46 PM
Quote from: valkorum on October 19, 2016, 04:26:15 PM
Jimmy Bartel just retired.

:'(

Another champion bows out.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: GoLions on October 19, 2016, 04:28:09 PM
Quote from: valkorum on October 19, 2016, 04:26:15 PM
Jimmy Bartel just retired.
fuark :(
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Levi434 on October 19, 2016, 04:33:10 PM
Quote from: valkorum on October 19, 2016, 04:26:15 PM
Jimmy Bartel just retired.

NOOOOO
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: shaker on October 19, 2016, 04:34:55 PM
Quote from: valkorum on October 19, 2016, 04:26:15 PM
Jimmy Bartel just retired.

Freeing up space in the cap for Lids ?
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: SydneyRox on October 19, 2016, 04:46:22 PM
Quote from: Rusty00 on October 19, 2016, 04:26:22 PM
Quote from: jvalles69 on October 19, 2016, 04:21:33 PM
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on October 19, 2016, 04:12:50 PM
The Sydney Swans could swoop incredibly late for Gold Coast Suns midfielder Jaeger O'Meara with the Swans offering up Kurt Tippett, according to Tony Sheahan.

Saw this too, surely they can't move Tippett and Nankervis?  Stuck with Sinclair holding up the ruck, go ahead Sydney.  :o
I call BS. This has the smell of a piss-take based on the whole Tippett/wanting to be close to family/GC/Swans saga from a few years ago.

tend to agree.

if it did happen, no doubt they would keep nank on an improved deal.

but cant see us replacing one 750k player who is stretching our salary cap for another with massive injury question marks.

massive flower you to the hawks it would be though!!  ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: GoLions on October 19, 2016, 05:00:56 PM
Nank to the Tigs for 46 apparently
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: kilbluff1985 on October 19, 2016, 05:01:52 PM
i thought jay schulz would be able to find a home at a good team? any news on him?
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: powersuperkents on October 19, 2016, 05:04:14 PM
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on October 19, 2016, 05:01:52 PM
i thought jay schulz would be able to find a home at a good team? any news on him?
I heard the Northern Blues VFL team was close to signing him
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: SydneyRox on October 19, 2016, 05:05:21 PM
Quote from: GoLions on October 19, 2016, 05:00:56 PM
Nank to the Tigs for 46 apparently

so certainly cant see us moving tippett on now
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Nige on October 19, 2016, 05:06:36 PM
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on October 19, 2016, 05:01:52 PM
i thought jay schulz would be able to find a home at a good team? any news on him?
Given he's not being offered a new contract at Port, he's a free agent which means he'd probably be able to be picked up as a delisted free agent next month if anyone wants him.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: GoLions on October 19, 2016, 05:07:25 PM
(https://i.gyazo.com/97e527340e87aad0ac145e3eb85bab08.png)

...and that's it :P
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: kilbluff1985 on October 19, 2016, 05:09:33 PM
opposed to playing with GAJ?
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: GoLions on October 19, 2016, 05:10:54 PM
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on October 19, 2016, 05:09:33 PM
opposed to playing with GAJ?
Cotch > Gaz confirmed
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: jvalles69 on October 19, 2016, 05:14:03 PM
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on October 19, 2016, 05:01:52 PM
i thought jay schulz would be able to find a home at a good team? any news on him?

Yeah I thought Freo were after him a couple of years ago?

We reckon Bartel retired on his own, or another champ pushed out by a Scott brother?  ::)
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Nige on October 19, 2016, 05:17:16 PM
Quote from: GoLions on October 19, 2016, 05:07:25 PM
(https://i.gyazo.com/97e527340e87aad0ac145e3eb85bab08.png)

...and that's it :P
Our list was the reason that Treloar didn't want to come to us, funny.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: iZander on October 19, 2016, 05:25:55 PM
Quote from: Nige on October 19, 2016, 05:17:16 PM
Quote from: GoLions on October 19, 2016, 05:07:25 PM
(https://i.gyazo.com/97e527340e87aad0ac145e3eb85bab08.png)

...and that's it :P
Our list was the reason that Treloar didn't want to come to us, funny.
The difference is Trelour was honest,Prestia certainly didnt pick Richmond for there list lmfao
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: shaker on October 19, 2016, 05:27:54 PM
Quote from: GoLions on October 19, 2016, 05:00:56 PM
Nank to the Tigs for 46 apparently

Nice  8)
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Holz on October 19, 2016, 05:35:04 PM
Quote from: jvalles69 on October 19, 2016, 05:14:03 PM
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on October 19, 2016, 05:01:52 PM
i thought jay schulz would be able to find a home at a good team? any news on him?

Yeah I thought Freo were after him a couple of years ago?

We reckon Bartel retired on his own, or another champ pushed out by a Scott brother?  ::)

if lids magically finds his way to the squad then i say pushed.

Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: RiOtChEsS on October 19, 2016, 05:44:05 PM
.@GeelongCats utility Billie Smedts will head to @CarltonFC as part of the Zac Tuohy deal. Future first round also heading to the Blues.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: SydneyRox on October 19, 2016, 05:44:40 PM
Smedts + Future 1st Round to Carlton for Touhy

Seems like overs to me....
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: elephants on October 19, 2016, 05:45:27 PM
Quote from: RiOtChEsS on October 19, 2016, 05:44:05 PM
.@GeelongCats utility Billie Smedts will head to @CarltonFC as part of the Zac Tuohy deal. Future first round also heading to the Blues.

Geez... Geelong trading another future first rounder? They're gonna be cooked in 5 or so years time imo.

Quote from: SydneyRox on October 19, 2016, 05:44:40 PM
Smedts + Future 1st Round to Carlton for Touhy

Seems like overs to me....

Don't rate Smedts at all but still feels like overs
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: shaker on October 19, 2016, 05:48:40 PM
Quote from: SydneyRox on October 19, 2016, 05:44:40 PM
Smedts + Future 1st Round to Carlton for Touhy

Seems like overs to me....
With Touhy off to Cats I'd say Lids is off to GWS if he goes at all
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Rusty00 on October 19, 2016, 05:50:01 PM
Quote from: elephants on October 19, 2016, 05:45:27 PM
Quote from: RiOtChEsS on October 19, 2016, 05:44:05 PM
.@GeelongCats utility Billie Smedts will head to @CarltonFC as part of the Zac Tuohy deal. Future first round also heading to the Blues.

Geez... Geelong trading another future first rounder? They're gonna be cooked in 5 or so years time imo.

Quote from: SydneyRox on October 19, 2016, 05:44:40 PM
Smedts + Future 1st Round to Carlton for Touhy

Seems like overs to me....

Don't rate Smedts at all but still feels like overs
Future 1st rounder is overs for Touhy so Smedts was added to even it up :P
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Mat0369 on October 19, 2016, 05:50:55 PM
I'm pretty happy with that. There's a possibility we send that pick to GWS for Marchbank with this years second.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: JBs-Hawks on October 19, 2016, 05:53:27 PM
Quote from: Rusty00 on October 19, 2016, 05:50:01 PM
Quote from: elephants on October 19, 2016, 05:45:27 PM
Quote from: RiOtChEsS on October 19, 2016, 05:44:05 PM
.@GeelongCats utility Billie Smedts will head to @CarltonFC as part of the Zac Tuohy deal. Future first round also heading to the Blues.

Geez... Geelong trading another future first rounder? They're gonna be cooked in 5 or so years time imo.

Quote from: SydneyRox on October 19, 2016, 05:44:40 PM
Smedts + Future 1st Round to Carlton for Touhy

Seems like overs to me....

Don't rate Smedts at all but still feels like overs
Future 1st rounder is overs for Touhy so Smedts was added to even it up :P


Hahahaha Yes!
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: SydneyRox on October 19, 2016, 05:53:36 PM
Quote from: Rusty00 on October 19, 2016, 05:50:01 PM
Quote from: elephants on October 19, 2016, 05:45:27 PM
Quote from: RiOtChEsS on October 19, 2016, 05:44:05 PM
.@GeelongCats utility Billie Smedts will head to @CarltonFC as part of the Zac Tuohy deal. Future first round also heading to the Blues.

Geez... Geelong trading another future first rounder? They're gonna be cooked in 5 or so years time imo.

Quote from: SydneyRox on October 19, 2016, 05:44:40 PM
Smedts + Future 1st Round to Carlton for Touhy

Seems like overs to me....

Don't rate Smedts at all but still feels like overs
Future 1st rounder is overs for Touhy so Smedts was added to even it up :P

there is also a cats future 2nd round to even it out a bit
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: elephants on October 19, 2016, 05:59:46 PM
Didn't see the second round going the other way...

Essentially Tuohy + pick 20-26 for Smedts + pick 13-18

Its actually a win to the Cats now imo haha
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: powersuperkents on October 19, 2016, 06:00:09 PM
OVERS!!!

I thought a 3rd rounder could get the Tuohy deal done tbh

SOS is a gun list manager if he's pulled that off - Smedts was a former first rounder, maybe a change is what he needs (certainly worth the punt imo if you're only trading Tuohy - a decent player but not too hard to replace if you're getting Marchbank and have Plowman)
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: elephants on October 19, 2016, 06:03:34 PM
Quote from: powersuperkents on October 19, 2016, 06:00:09 PM
OVERS!!!

I thought a 3rd rounder could get the Tuohy deal done tbh

SOS is a gun list manager if he's pulled that off - Smedts was a former first rounder, maybe a change is what he needs (certainly worth the punt imo if you're only trading Tuohy - a decent player but not too hard to replace if you're getting Marchbank and have Plowman)

Smedts' issues have never been talent or opportunity, his body is shot and clearly not up to the demands of AFL (not his fault just how it is).

As for saying Tuohy is easily replaced with Marchbank and Plowman... Diiiifferent players. Two key defenders vs a rebounder.

Might see Dylan Buckley moved back to his best possie across halfback though?
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Nige on October 19, 2016, 06:07:14 PM
Quote from: elephants on October 19, 2016, 06:03:34 PM
Quote from: powersuperkents on October 19, 2016, 06:00:09 PM
OVERS!!!

I thought a 3rd rounder could get the Tuohy deal done tbh

SOS is a gun list manager if he's pulled that off - Smedts was a former first rounder, maybe a change is what he needs (certainly worth the punt imo if you're only trading Tuohy - a decent player but not too hard to replace if you're getting Marchbank and have Plowman)

Smedts' issues have never been talent or opportunity, his body is shot and clearly not up to the demands of AFL (not his fault just how it is).

As for saying Tuohy is easily replaced with Marchbank and Plowman... Diiiifferent players. Two key defenders vs a rebounder.

Might see Dylan Buckley moved back to his best possie across halfback though?
Yeah, Smedts has been smashed by injuries. Should be interesting to see how he goes at the Blues if given a chance though.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Mat0369 on October 19, 2016, 06:07:55 PM
Byrne and Sheean replace Tuohy
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: powersuperkents on October 19, 2016, 06:10:00 PM
Quote from: elephants on October 19, 2016, 06:03:34 PM
Quote from: powersuperkents on October 19, 2016, 06:00:09 PM
OVERS!!!

I thought a 3rd rounder could get the Tuohy deal done tbh

SOS is a gun list manager if he's pulled that off - Smedts was a former first rounder, maybe a change is what he needs (certainly worth the punt imo if you're only trading Tuohy - a decent player but not too hard to replace if you're getting Marchbank and have Plowman)

Smedts' issues have never been talent or opportunity, his body is shot and clearly not up to the demands of AFL (not his fault just how it is).

As for saying Tuohy is easily replaced with Marchbank and Plowman... Diiiifferent players. Two key defenders vs a rebounder.

Might see Dylan Buckley moved back to his best possie across halfback though?
I didn't see the second rounder being added which certainly changes things

Plowman was highly regarded as an U18 because of his ability to rebound from halfback despite his height. I haven't actually seen him at AFL level though so I wouldn't be surprised if, like many draftees before AFL, that was a skill he couldn't transfer into the major league though. The same goes for Marchbank because in juniors we had the agility to play as a winger - again, so did Tomlinson and he's one that I've followed who hasn't transferred those skills into his AFL career. 

But I agree, it's preferable the talls act as tall and the small/medium defenders provide the run - so Buckley & Byrne
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: RaisyDaisy on October 19, 2016, 06:16:46 PM
Even with the 2nd rounder added, I just cannot fathom how a 1st round pick is involved in that trade

GL with Smedts Carlton  ;D
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: iZander on October 19, 2016, 06:29:02 PM
Quote from: powersuperkents on October 19, 2016, 06:00:09 PM
I thought a 3rd rounder could get the Tuohy deal done tbh
lol, i really hope you didnt
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: kilbluff1985 on October 19, 2016, 06:42:35 PM
Tuohy was really impressive in the last few games this year when he was let off the leash

still agree is overs though
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: kilbluff1985 on October 19, 2016, 06:51:53 PM
Lids has nominated GWS
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Purple 77 on October 19, 2016, 06:54:07 PM
Jesus... that's massive overs for Tuohy IMO
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Bill Manspeaker on October 19, 2016, 06:58:08 PM
I really rate Tuohy. watch a lot of Blues games with my Carlton mate and I love watching him play

but if you're getting a 1st you gotta take it
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: tbagrocks on October 19, 2016, 07:04:45 PM
Quote from: Holz on October 19, 2016, 10:41:31 AM
Quote from: shaker on October 19, 2016, 09:41:49 AM
See some ex crow players are saying Softie is not exactly what you need you already have M Crouch who is a young Gibb's in the making , it was evident in the finals that you could not get the ball in the middle , Thomson has been great but is to old now B Crouch just has not been consistent leaving only Sloane to me Rockliff was the player you needed to really have a crack at a flag , the only reason all the talk has been about getting Softie is because he wants to come home

I reckon they could use a guy like Danger.
I cant see how selfish "Look at me" Sooks who miss their mothers cooking, who they call "FIGJAM" For a reason will help anyone win a team sport ;)
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: shaker on October 19, 2016, 07:08:26 PM
Quote from: Purple 77 on October 19, 2016, 06:54:07 PM
Jesus... that's massive overs for Tuohy IMO

I don't think it's overs the Cats hand over next years 1st round should be somewhere around 12 to 16 and get Carlton's 2nd should be around mid to high 20's and get a decent backman and unload Smedts fair trade for mine
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: RaisyDaisy on October 19, 2016, 07:23:32 PM
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on October 19, 2016, 06:51:53 PM
Lids has nominated GWS

Not that they needed him for this, but surely flag favourites now
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: JBs-Hawks on October 19, 2016, 07:53:18 PM
Hes the final piece of the puzzle!
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: meow meow on October 19, 2016, 07:57:24 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on October 19, 2016, 07:23:32 PM
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on October 19, 2016, 06:51:53 PM
Lids has nominated GWS

Not that they needed him for this, but surely flag favourites now

GWS are our dog. Plus we're getting Bob, Crameri and Cloke.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: SydneyRox on October 19, 2016, 08:11:35 PM
Quote from: meow meow on October 19, 2016, 07:57:24 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on October 19, 2016, 07:23:32 PM
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on October 19, 2016, 06:51:53 PM
Lids has nominated GWS

Not that they needed him for this, but surely flag favourites now

GWS are our dog. Plus we're getting Bob, Crameri and Cloke.

just wait until we get JOM  :-X

Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Mat0369 on October 19, 2016, 08:14:14 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on October 19, 2016, 06:16:46 PM
Even with the 2nd rounder added, I just cannot fathom how a 1st round pick is involved in that trade

GL with Smedts Carlton  ;D

It means that Jed Bews doesn't have to play again  :P

I find the 2nd round pick interesting, assuming Geelong carry form the jump from our 2nd to their first isn't much at all. I don't think that Smedts and four spots in the draft  is equal to Tuohy but I think SOS is looking at what he needs to give GWS for Marchbank. Take a little less in this deal to get what we're after in another.

Quote from: Bill Manspeaker on October 19, 2016, 06:58:08 PM
I really rate Tuohy. watch a lot of Blues games with my Carlton mate and I love watching him play

but if you're getting a 1st you gotta take it

I don't reckon anyone has really seen us play much since Malthouse was sacked. As soon as Mick left Tuohy flicked a switch and has been excellent. He finished that year third in the B&F and has been our best shut down small defender. He is a pretty underrated player and an excellent kick so the Cats have pretty much got their Enright replacement.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Nige on October 19, 2016, 08:28:54 PM
Man, it's gonna take me a while to cope with the fact that Brett Deledio won't be in yellow and black next season.  :(

Now I know how Hawks fans feel about Mitchell and Lewis.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: RaisyDaisy on October 19, 2016, 08:31:36 PM
Curious to see the AFL explain how Geelong was allowed to trade the future first rounder for Touhy

Rule was you have to use 2 every 4 years, and they've now traded a third one already
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Mat0369 on October 19, 2016, 08:40:33 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on October 19, 2016, 08:31:36 PM
Curious to see the AFL explain how Geelong was allowed to trade the future first rounder for Touhy

Rule was you have to use 2 every 4 years, and they've now traded a third one already

They will likely package 2 second round picks including ours to get one back. I'll laugh of they end up getting their 1st back from GWS
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: PowerBug on October 19, 2016, 08:44:54 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on October 19, 2016, 08:31:36 PM
Curious to see the AFL explain how Geelong was allowed to trade the future first rounder for Touhy

Rule was you have to use 2 every 4 years, and they've now traded a third one already
Is it two for every rolling 4 years?

They probably just made an exception because VFL ya know.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Rusty00 on October 19, 2016, 09:09:04 PM
Quote from: Mat0369 on October 19, 2016, 08:40:33 PM
I'll laugh of they end up getting their 1st back from GWS
I was hoping a team would do this ;)
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Purple 77 on October 19, 2016, 09:16:07 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on October 19, 2016, 08:31:36 PM
Curious to see the AFL explain how Geelong was allowed to trade the future first rounder for Touhy

Rule was you have to use 2 every 4 years, and they've now traded a third one already

Two first rounders and two second rounders every rolling 4 years I thought?

Could be wrong though
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Mat0369 on October 19, 2016, 09:32:14 PM
I thought it was firsts and seconds but when I went back and looked at it last week I only saw firsts
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Ringo on October 19, 2016, 10:30:21 PM
Quote from: Purple 77 on October 19, 2016, 09:16:07 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on October 19, 2016, 08:31:36 PM
Curious to see the AFL explain how Geelong was allowed to trade the future first rounder for Touhy

Rule was you have to use 2 every 4 years, and they've now traded a third one already

Two first rounders and two second rounders every rolling 4 years I thought?

Could be wrong though
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2015-08-06/future-trading-given-goahead-but-with-restrictions

  Clubs can trade one year in the future only.

-       Clubs must make at least two first-round selections in each four-year period. If they don't, they will face restrictions from trading any further first-round draft picks.

-       If a club trades a future first-round selection, it may not trade any other future selection from that same draft. But if a club keeps its future first-round selection, it can trade any of its future selections from other rounds.

The bolded section is the rule here.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: meow meow on October 19, 2016, 11:56:17 PM
Quote from: meow meow on October 18, 2016, 07:19:46 PM
Who is left?

Softie?
Rocky? unlikely
Koby
Hrovat
Pickett
Marchbank
Hoskin-Elliott
Palmer
Stewart
Witts
Prestia
JOM
Vardy
Nank
Richards
Mackenzie
Brown
Silvagni
Lids?
Tuohy
Kersten
Lyons
CEY
Ah Choo
Cloke
Dunn
Grigg
Marsh
Hibberd
Lonergan?

Then the delisted FA's

Barlow
Petrie
Wilbur
Green
Grimes
Henderson
Dempsey?
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: GoLions on October 20, 2016, 12:18:03 AM
I'm gonna guess that 15 of those get traded tomorrow
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: TomK on October 20, 2016, 12:33:28 AM
Quote from: GoLions on October 20, 2016, 12:18:03 AM
I'm gonna guess that 15 of those get traded tomorrow
I'm guessing 19
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Ringo on October 20, 2016, 08:40:52 AM
Brisbane also needs to finalise the Jack Frost trade.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: RaisyDaisy on October 20, 2016, 08:42:29 AM
Rocky, Mackenzie and CEY won't be traded

Can add Lennon to that list too as he requested a trade but doesn't look like anyone is interested
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Pkbaldy on October 20, 2016, 09:04:01 AM
12 trades.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: RaisyDaisy on October 20, 2016, 09:10:54 AM
12-13 for me

Dogs made a late play for Lids too, but he chose GWS
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: RaisyDaisy on October 20, 2016, 09:13:47 AM
Softie
Koby
Hrovat
Pickett
Marchbank
Hoskin-Elliott
Stewart
Witts
JOM
Vardy
Lids
Kersten
Lyons
Cloke
Dunn

50/50 on Witts and WHE actually getting done
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: RiOtChEsS on October 20, 2016, 09:45:07 AM
Pretty keen to move Gibbs today... #canwesendhimtoGCforjaeger ;D
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Grazz on October 20, 2016, 09:46:36 AM
Quote from: RiOtChEsS on October 20, 2016, 09:45:07 AM
Pretty keen to move Softie today... #canwesendhimtoGCforjaeger ;D

NO  :P
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: RiOtChEsS on October 20, 2016, 09:52:54 AM
Quote from: Grazz on October 20, 2016, 09:46:36 AM
Quote from: RiOtChEsS on October 20, 2016, 09:45:07 AM
Pretty keen to move Softie today... #canwesendhimtoGCforjaeger ;D

NO  :P
Oh so you might be interested :P
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Grazz on October 20, 2016, 10:16:05 AM
Quote from: RiOtChEsS on October 20, 2016, 09:52:54 AM
Quote from: Grazz on October 20, 2016, 09:46:36 AM
Quote from: RiOtChEsS on October 20, 2016, 09:45:07 AM
Pretty keen to move Softie today... #canwesendhimtoGCforjaeger ;D

NO  :P
Oh so you might be interested :P

Always been interested mate just didn't want to have to sell the farm to get it done.  ;)
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: RaisyDaisy on October 20, 2016, 10:32:09 AM
Hrovat to North should be done very soon

North also a chance to offer Marley a lifeline

Sounding more and more like the Gibbs deal won't get done
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Holz on October 20, 2016, 10:43:00 AM
Quote from: tbagrocks on October 19, 2016, 07:04:45 PM
Quote from: Holz on October 19, 2016, 10:41:31 AM
Quote from: shaker on October 19, 2016, 09:41:49 AM
See some ex crow players are saying Softie is not exactly what you need you already have M Crouch who is a young Gibb's in the making , it was evident in the finals that you could not get the ball in the middle , Thomson has been great but is to old now B Crouch just has not been consistent leaving only Sloane to me Rockliff was the player you needed to really have a crack at a flag , the only reason all the talk has been about getting Softie is because he wants to come home

I reckon they could use a guy like Danger.
I cant see how selfish "Look at me" Sooks who miss their mothers cooking, who they call "FIGJAM" For a reason will help anyone win a team sport ;)

So what are your thoughts on Gibbs doing the same thing?
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: RaisyDaisy on October 20, 2016, 10:53:50 AM
The Western Bulldogs have sent picks 35 (round 2) and 43 (round 3) to Gold Cost for picks 26 (round 2) and 80 (pick 5).
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Grazz on October 20, 2016, 11:06:32 AM
Quote from: Holz on October 20, 2016, 10:43:00 AM
Quote from: tbagrocks on October 19, 2016, 07:04:45 PM
Quote from: Holz on October 19, 2016, 10:41:31 AM
Quote from: shaker on October 19, 2016, 09:41:49 AM
See some ex crow players are saying Softie is not exactly what you need you already have M Crouch who is a young Gibb's in the making , it was evident in the finals that you could not get the ball in the middle , Thomson has been great but is to old now B Crouch just has not been consistent leaving only Sloane to me Rockliff was the player you needed to really have a crack at a flag , the only reason all the talk has been about getting Softie is because he wants to come home

I reckon they could use a guy like Danger.
I cant see how selfish "Look at me" Sooks who miss their mothers cooking, who they call "FIGJAM" For a reason will help anyone win a team sport ;)

So what are your thoughts on Softie doing the same thing?

Both want home for family reasons, both want to start a family and have their immediate family on hand to help with all that entails. Can't knock either for that, Tbag can haha but the majority would be understanding of that.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: LF on October 20, 2016, 11:08:36 AM
Witts has been traded to Gold Coast in exchange for picks picks 44 (R3) and 62 (R4).
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Holz on October 20, 2016, 11:11:26 AM
Quote from: Grazz on October 20, 2016, 11:06:32 AM
Quote from: Holz on October 20, 2016, 10:43:00 AM
Quote from: tbagrocks on October 19, 2016, 07:04:45 PM
Quote from: Holz on October 19, 2016, 10:41:31 AM
Quote from: shaker on October 19, 2016, 09:41:49 AM
See some ex crow players are saying Softie is not exactly what you need you already have M Crouch who is a young Gibb's in the making , it was evident in the finals that you could not get the ball in the middle , Thomson has been great but is to old now B Crouch just has not been consistent leaving only Sloane to me Rockliff was the player you needed to really have a crack at a flag , the only reason all the talk has been about getting Softie is because he wants to come home

I reckon they could use a guy like Danger.
I cant see how selfish "Look at me" Sooks who miss their mothers cooking, who they call "FIGJAM" For a reason will help anyone win a team sport ;)

So what are your thoughts on Softie doing the same thing?

Both want home for family reasons, both want to start a family and have their immediate family on hand to help with all that entails. Can't knock either for that, Tbag can haha but the majority would be understanding of that.

Yeah I have no issue with either just poking fun at Tbag. The difference is gibbs signed a contract and has to satisfy that contract at the end of the day, i do feel sorry for those who are forced to move in the draft though. But they are lucky at the same time to play football as their job so cant feel too bad for them
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: RaisyDaisy on October 20, 2016, 11:19:19 AM
Hrovat joins North Melbourne, along with 2017 third and fourth round picks for North's 2017 third and fourth round picks.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: meow meow on October 20, 2016, 11:21:03 AM
Cheap
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: meow meow on October 20, 2016, 11:22:31 AM
Would be amusing if NM finish higher than us.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Nige on October 20, 2016, 11:23:47 AM
Kersten to Freo for Pick 63
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: RiOtChEsS on October 20, 2016, 11:25:31 AM
here we go the deals are flowing 8)
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: RaisyDaisy on October 20, 2016, 11:33:43 AM
Adelaide list manager Justin Reid has waltzed into Etihad Stadium.

"We've had an open and honest dialogue. Hopefully we'll get a good outcome for Bryce and his family.

"If we have to go to the draft, that was our original strategy, so that's what we'll do."
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: RaisyDaisy on October 20, 2016, 11:34:29 AM
Kersten and McCarthy up forward, Hill on the Wing and Hamling down back

Freo have done well

Hrovat was a bargain
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: RaisyDaisy on October 20, 2016, 11:35:59 AM
Touhy now official

The Blues get Billie Smedts, pick 63 (R4) and a 2017 first round pick, and the Cats get back a 2017 second round pick.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: PowerBug on October 20, 2016, 11:37:03 AM
If trade period was one day long they'd probably get exactly the same trades done :P What a waste of 9 days it was leading up to today ;)
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: RaisyDaisy on October 20, 2016, 11:39:06 AM
Marchbank trade set to get done separately of Gibbs. GWS will likely get future 1st Rd Blues got in Tuohy trade. Pickett likely inclusion also
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: valkorum on October 20, 2016, 11:42:48 AM
Quote from: Nige on October 20, 2016, 11:23:47 AM
Kersten to Freo for Pick 63

Great stuff from Freo
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: valkorum on October 20, 2016, 11:43:24 AM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on October 20, 2016, 11:34:29 AM
Kersten and McCarthy up forward, Hill on the Wing and Hamling down back

Freo have done well

Hrovat was a bargain

And we still have a 1st and 2nd round draft pick (7 & 40)
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Holz on October 20, 2016, 11:51:00 AM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on October 20, 2016, 11:33:43 AM
Adelaide list manager Justin Reid has waltzed into Etihad Stadium.

"We've had an open and honest dialogue. Hopefully we'll get a good outcome for Bryce and his family.

"If we have to go to the draft, that was our original strategy, so that's what we'll do."

he can get taken in the preseason draft right?

why wouldnt teams just talk to the team holding the number 1 preseason draft pick? im sure it would cost less then pick 13.

or can they go in the national draft?

Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: RaisyDaisy on October 20, 2016, 11:52:51 AM
Richmond gets Josh Caddy and pick 56 for Geelong's picks 24 and 64 @AFL #AFLTrades @traderadio
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: PowerBug on October 20, 2016, 11:53:12 AM
Softie is contracted, so if he breaks the contract he'd have to spend 2 years out of the AFL pretty sure?

Quote from: RaisyDaisy on October 20, 2016, 11:52:51 AM
Richmond gets Josh Caddy and pick 56 for Geelong's picks 24 and 64 @AFL #AFLTrades @traderadio
Geelong going for broke. Scott will lose his job in 2 years when it all falls apart.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Nige on October 20, 2016, 11:55:21 AM
Great work from the Tiges! Caddy for 24 (basically) is a good deal.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Grazz on October 20, 2016, 11:56:33 AM
Quote from: PowerBug on October 20, 2016, 11:53:12 AM
Softie is contracted, so if he breaks the contract he'd have to spend 2 years out of the AFL pretty sure?

Quote from: RaisyDaisy on October 20, 2016, 11:52:51 AM
Richmond gets Josh Caddy and pick 56 for Geelong's picks 24 and 64 @AFL #AFLTrades @traderadio
Geelong going for broke. Scott will lose his job in 2 years when it all falls apart.

Yeh he would, and softie would be silly to do that nor would anyone expect him to.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: meow meow on October 20, 2016, 12:01:31 PM
Caddy and Smedts both gone. What link do they have to each other, anyone?
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Scrads on October 20, 2016, 12:03:52 PM
Quote from: meow meow on October 20, 2016, 12:01:31 PM
Caddy and Smedts both gone. What link do they have to each other, anyone?

Gained via picks from Ablett compo.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Holz on October 20, 2016, 12:11:30 PM
Quote from: Nige on October 20, 2016, 11:55:21 AM
Great work from the Tiges! Caddy for 24 (basically) is a good deal.

so this is a team that is basically bringing in Presita Yarran Caddy and making finals and doing damage is a crazy call.

losing lids is a big out though.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: iZander on October 20, 2016, 12:13:14 PM
Quote from: Holz on October 20, 2016, 12:11:30 PM
Quote from: Nige on October 20, 2016, 11:55:21 AM
Great work from the Tiges! Caddy for 24 (basically) is a good deal.

so this is a team that is basically bringing in Presita Yarran Caddy and making finals and doing damage is a crazy call.

losing lids is a big out though.
Lids is basically the difference between a win and a loss.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: PowerBug on October 20, 2016, 12:13:57 PM
Quote from: Holz on October 20, 2016, 12:11:30 PM
Quote from: Nige on October 20, 2016, 11:55:21 AM
Great work from the Tiges! Caddy for 24 (basically) is a good deal.

so this is a team that is basically bringing in Presita Yarran Caddy and making finals and doing damage is a crazy call.

losing lids is a big out though.
But they have to come back from so far back, and team like Essendon, Fremantle, Melbourne, St. Kilda aren't exactly getting worse. Only your side looks like it'll go backwards big time next year, Hawks maybe slipping into the bottom 4 of the 8.

And as iZ said, Richmond can't win without Deledio


I'd laugh if JOM went to the National Draft, both Essendon and GWS pass on him then Brisbane snap him up at Pick 3!
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Grazz on October 20, 2016, 12:19:02 PM
Quote from: Holz on October 20, 2016, 12:11:30 PM
Quote from: Nige on October 20, 2016, 11:55:21 AM
Great work from the Tiges! Caddy for 24 (basically) is a good deal.

so this is a team that is basically bringing in Presita Yarran Caddy and making finals and doing damage is a crazy call.

losing lids is a big out though.

Haven't complimented the Tigers after a draft period in awhile, that may have to change this year. Think they have done well.
Get a good 1st round pick for Lids and they'll be sitting on an "A"  grade.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: iZander on October 20, 2016, 12:24:14 PM
Quote from: PowerBug on October 20, 2016, 12:13:57 PM
Quote from: Holz on October 20, 2016, 12:11:30 PM
Quote from: Nige on October 20, 2016, 11:55:21 AM
Great work from the Tiges! Caddy for 24 (basically) is a good deal.

so this is a team that is basically bringing in Presita Yarran Caddy and making finals and doing damage is a crazy call.

losing lids is a big out though.
But they have to come back from so far back, and team like Essendon, Fremantle, Melbourne, St. Kilda aren't exactly getting worse. Only your side looks like it'll go backwards big time next year, Hawks maybe slipping into the bottom 4 of the 8.

And as iZ said, Richmond can't win without Deledio


I'd laugh if JOM went to the National Draft, both Essendon and GWS pass on him then Brisbane snap him up at Pick 3!
Well thats not going to happen, he wants to go to melbourne, so the dons will lock him in if he chooses the psd :P
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: RaisyDaisy on October 20, 2016, 12:25:38 PM
Cats now looking at getting Aaron Black to replace Kersten, Vardy and Clark who barely plays
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Nige on October 20, 2016, 12:30:12 PM
The Richmond can't win without Lids thing is a bit stupid. Basically people just looking for an easy cheap shot at the Tigers.

Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: iZander on October 20, 2016, 12:36:06 PM
Quote from: Nige on October 20, 2016, 12:30:12 PM
The Richmond can't win without Lids thing is a bit stupid. Basically people just looking for an easy cheap shot at the Tigers.
The numbers dont lie ;)

And im sure they can win but they certainly wont be winning a heap :P

What theyve done this trade period is great though, and they are well on there way now i think!
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Rusty00 on October 20, 2016, 12:38:19 PM
Quote from: Holz on October 20, 2016, 12:11:30 PM
Quote from: Nige on October 20, 2016, 11:55:21 AM
Great work from the Tiges! Caddy for 24 (basically) is a good deal.

so this is a team that is basically bringing in Presita Yarran Caddy and making finals and doing damage is a crazy call.

losing lids is a big out though.
Define "doing damage"  ;)
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: PowerBug on October 20, 2016, 12:39:06 PM
Quote from: iZander on October 20, 2016, 12:36:06 PM
Quote from: Nige on October 20, 2016, 12:30:12 PM
The Richmond can't win without Lids thing is a bit stupid. Basically people just looking for an easy cheap shot at the Tigers.
The numbers dont lie ;)

And im sure they can win but they certainly wont be winning a heap :P

What theyve done this trade period is great though, and they are well on there way now i think!
Isn't it like 80% with him, 30% without him? If it was 60-45 then I'd dismiss it, but that is a fair gap.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: RaisyDaisy on October 20, 2016, 12:48:37 PM
Swans have sent picks 39 (R2) and 52 (R3) to the Giants for pick 31 (R2).
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Nige on October 20, 2016, 12:49:22 PM
Quote from: PowerBug on October 20, 2016, 12:39:06 PM
Quote from: iZander on October 20, 2016, 12:36:06 PM
Quote from: Nige on October 20, 2016, 12:30:12 PM
The Richmond can't win without Lids thing is a bit stupid. Basically people just looking for an easy cheap shot at the Tigers.
The numbers dont lie ;)

And im sure they can win but they certainly wont be winning a heap :P

What theyve done this trade period is great though, and they are well on there way now i think!
Isn't it like 80% with him, 30% without him? If it was 60-45 then I'd dismiss it, but that is a fair gap.
Where are you going with this? Are you trying to paint a "Richmond is hopeless and doomed for the rest of eternity because Brett Deledio isn't playing another game for them" kind of picture, because that's the vibe I'm getting, especially with your history of persistent Richmond bashing.

There's no denying that our record without Lids is disgusting but we were always gonna be able to get past it and I'm cautiously optimistic when I say we can win enough games to push for the 8 again.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: kilbluff1985 on October 20, 2016, 12:54:10 PM
when they get in Prestia and Caddy things change to much to say they cant win without Lids
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: AaronKirk on October 20, 2016, 12:58:06 PM
Gold Coast have traded picks 43 + 67 to Adelaide for Lyons and Pick 71
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: PowerBug on October 20, 2016, 01:00:36 PM
Quote from: Nige on October 20, 2016, 12:49:22 PM
Quote from: PowerBug on October 20, 2016, 12:39:06 PM
Quote from: iZander on October 20, 2016, 12:36:06 PM
Quote from: Nige on October 20, 2016, 12:30:12 PM
The Richmond can't win without Lids thing is a bit stupid. Basically people just looking for an easy cheap shot at the Tigers.
The numbers dont lie ;)

And im sure they can win but they certainly wont be winning a heap :P

What theyve done this trade period is great though, and they are well on there way now i think!
Isn't it like 80% with him, 30% without him? If it was 60-45 then I'd dismiss it, but that is a fair gap.
Where are you going with this? Are you trying to paint a "Richmond is hopeless and doomed for the rest of eternity because Brett Deledio isn't playing another game for them" kind of picture, because that's the vibe I'm getting, especially with your history of persistent Richmond bashing.

There's no denying that our record without Lids is disgusting but we were always gonna be able to get past it and I'm cautiously optimistic when I say we can win enough games to push for the 8 again.
I think the Tigers have done well this trade period :)
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: RaisyDaisy on October 20, 2016, 01:01:26 PM
Quote from: AaronKirk on October 20, 2016, 12:58:06 PM
Gold Coast have traded picks 43 + 67 to Adelaide for Lyons and Pick 71

Even bigger bargain than Hrovat
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: TomK on October 20, 2016, 01:04:30 PM
Quote from: AaronKirk on October 20, 2016, 12:58:06 PM
Gold Coast have traded picks 43 + 67 to Adelaide for Lyons and Pick 71
Pathetic trade
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: shaker on October 20, 2016, 01:04:55 PM
Quote from: Nige on October 20, 2016, 12:49:22 PM
Quote from: PowerBug on October 20, 2016, 12:39:06 PM
Quote from: iZander on October 20, 2016, 12:36:06 PM
Quote from: Nige on October 20, 2016, 12:30:12 PM
The Richmond can't win without Lids thing is a bit stupid. Basically people just looking for an easy cheap shot at the Tigers.
The numbers dont lie ;)

And im sure they can win but they certainly wont be winning a heap :P

What theyve done this trade period is great though, and they are well on there way now i think!
Isn't it like 80% with him, 30% without him? If it was 60-45 then I'd dismiss it, but that is a fair gap.
Where are you going with this? Are you trying to paint a "Richmond is hopeless and doomed for the rest of eternity because Brett Deledio isn't playing another game for them" kind of picture, because that's the vibe I'm getting, especially with your history of persistent Richmond bashing.

There's no denying that our record without Lids is disgusting but we were always gonna be able to get past it and I'm cautiously optimistic when I say we can win enough games to push for the 8 again.

Yeah agree just stupid comments , we won't win any games next year or the year after because Lids is no longer there  ::)  , I'm just happy the Tiges have finally had a good trade period and if we can get pick 15 off GWS it means we will go into draft with a 1st and 2nd round pick  :)
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: RiOtChEsS on October 20, 2016, 01:07:35 PM
Quote from: TomK on October 20, 2016, 01:04:30 PM
Quote from: AaronKirk on October 20, 2016, 12:58:06 PM
Gold Coast have traded picks 43 + 67 to Adelaide for Lyons and Pick 71
Pathetic trade
Picks 13 and 43 for Softie now???
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: iZander on October 20, 2016, 01:08:02 PM
Quote from: shaker on October 20, 2016, 01:04:55 PM
Quote from: Nige on October 20, 2016, 12:49:22 PM
Quote from: PowerBug on October 20, 2016, 12:39:06 PM
Quote from: iZander on October 20, 2016, 12:36:06 PM
Quote from: Nige on October 20, 2016, 12:30:12 PM
The Richmond can't win without Lids thing is a bit stupid. Basically people just looking for an easy cheap shot at the Tigers.
The numbers dont lie ;)

And im sure they can win but they certainly wont be winning a heap :P

What theyve done this trade period is great though, and they are well on there way now i think!
Isn't it like 80% with him, 30% without him? If it was 60-45 then I'd dismiss it, but that is a fair gap.
Where are you going with this? Are you trying to paint a "Richmond is hopeless and doomed for the rest of eternity because Brett Deledio isn't playing another game for them" kind of picture, because that's the vibe I'm getting, especially with your history of persistent Richmond bashing.

There's no denying that our record without Lids is disgusting but we were always gonna be able to get past it and I'm cautiously optimistic when I say we can win enough games to push for the 8 again.

Yeah agree just stupid comments , we won't win any games next year or the year after because Lids is no longer there  ::)  , I'm just happy the Tiges have finally had a good trade period and if we can get pick 15 off GWS it means we will go into draft with a 1st and 2nd round pick  :)
People take things so literal on here.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: SydneyRox on October 20, 2016, 01:08:48 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on October 20, 2016, 12:48:37 PM
Swans have sent picks 39 (R2) and 52 (R3) to the Giants for pick 31 (R2).

smart deal from us, gives points to GWS

do we have something brewing??? fingers crossed....  :-X
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Jay on October 20, 2016, 01:09:08 PM
Quote from: AaronKirk on October 20, 2016, 12:58:06 PM
Gold Coast have traded picks 43 + 67 to Adelaide for Lyons and Pick 71
What the flower is that?????
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Holz on October 20, 2016, 01:09:22 PM
Quote from: Rusty00 on October 20, 2016, 12:38:19 PM
Quote from: Holz on October 20, 2016, 12:11:30 PM
Quote from: Nige on October 20, 2016, 11:55:21 AM
Great work from the Tiges! Caddy for 24 (basically) is a good deal.

so this is a team that is basically bringing in Presita Yarran Caddy and making finals and doing damage is a crazy call.

losing lids is a big out though.
Define "doing damage"  ;)

a chance of a finals win, i consider taking a team out for the season as doing damage.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: TomK on October 20, 2016, 01:11:43 PM
Quote from: RiOtChEsS on October 20, 2016, 01:07:35 PM
Quote from: TomK on October 20, 2016, 01:04:30 PM
Quote from: AaronKirk on October 20, 2016, 12:58:06 PM
Gold Coast have traded picks 43 + 67 to Adelaide for Lyons and Pick 71
Pathetic trade
Picks 13 and 43 for Softie now???
I wish
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Big Mac on October 20, 2016, 01:16:45 PM
Quote from: iZander on October 20, 2016, 01:08:02 PM
Quote from: shaker on October 20, 2016, 01:04:55 PM
Quote from: Nige on October 20, 2016, 12:49:22 PM
Quote from: PowerBug on October 20, 2016, 12:39:06 PM
Quote from: iZander on October 20, 2016, 12:36:06 PM
Quote from: Nige on October 20, 2016, 12:30:12 PM
The Richmond can't win without Lids thing is a bit stupid. Basically people just looking for an easy cheap shot at the Tigers.
The numbers dont lie ;)

And im sure they can win but they certainly wont be winning a heap :P

What theyve done this trade period is great though, and they are well on there way now i think!
Isn't it like 80% with him, 30% without him? If it was 60-45 then I'd dismiss it, but that is a fair gap.
Where are you going with this? Are you trying to paint a "Richmond is hopeless and doomed for the rest of eternity because Brett Deledio isn't playing another game for them" kind of picture, because that's the vibe I'm getting, especially with your history of persistent Richmond bashing.

There's no denying that our record without Lids is disgusting but we were always gonna be able to get past it and I'm cautiously optimistic when I say we can win enough games to push for the 8 again.

Yeah agree just stupid comments , we won't win any games next year or the year after because Lids is no longer there  ::)  , I'm just happy the Tiges have finally had a good trade period and if we can get pick 15 off GWS it means we will go into draft with a 1st and 2nd round pick  :)
People take things so literal on here.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Purple 77 on October 20, 2016, 01:17:01 PM
Who the flower is Pat McKenna?
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Purple 77 on October 20, 2016, 01:17:39 PM
There might be about 10-15 players on an AFL list I know sweet FA about, and he is one of them.

Now a Demon!
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Rusty00 on October 20, 2016, 01:19:28 PM
Quote from: Purple 77 on October 20, 2016, 01:17:01 PM
Who the flower is Pat McKenna?
Former Australian U19 cricket captain ;)
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Purple 77 on October 20, 2016, 01:22:33 PM
In 2014, we did a trade to GWS which was

Pick 23 FOR Sam Frost, Pick 40 (ANB) and Pick 53 (OMac).

Pick 23 ended up being McKenna lol
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: shaker on October 20, 2016, 01:22:50 PM
Quote from: AaronKirk on October 20, 2016, 12:58:06 PM
Gold Coast have traded picks 43 + 67 to Adelaide for Lyons and Pick 71

Surely Lyons was worth a 2nd round pick ?
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Big Mac on October 20, 2016, 01:22:50 PM
taken at pick 23 2 years ago, interesting....
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Purple 77 on October 20, 2016, 01:24:44 PM
This continues our record of dealing with the Giants in every year of their existence  :-X
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: meow meow on October 20, 2016, 01:24:44 PM
He's another wasted pick by GWS. Picked him out of the Bendigo league instead of the usual under 18 pathway.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: TomK on October 20, 2016, 01:27:44 PM
Quote from: shaker on October 20, 2016, 01:22:50 PM
Quote from: AaronKirk on October 20, 2016, 12:58:06 PM
Gold Coast have traded picks 43 + 67 to Adelaide for Lyons and Pick 71

Surely Lyons was worth a 2nd round pick ?
You're not alone. We're weak traders over here at the Crows.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: GoLions on October 20, 2016, 01:30:01 PM
Vardy for 72
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Scrads on October 20, 2016, 01:32:35 PM
Quote from: meow meow on October 20, 2016, 01:24:44 PM
He's another wasted pick by GWS. Picked him out of the Bendigo league instead of the usual under 18 pathway.

Yeah, because GWS are doing so awful! Haha
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: GoLions on October 20, 2016, 01:33:34 PM
Cloke basically a dog

Lids for 15 as good as done

Marley Williams choosing between Lions and North (I was hearing our future 3rd for Marley and Frost earlier this morning)
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: AaronKirk on October 20, 2016, 01:33:41 PM
Quote from: TomK on October 20, 2016, 01:27:44 PM
Quote from: shaker on October 20, 2016, 01:22:50 PM
Quote from: AaronKirk on October 20, 2016, 12:58:06 PM
Gold Coast have traded picks 43 + 67 to Adelaide for Lyons and Pick 71

Surely Lyons was worth a 2nd round pick ?
You're not alone. We're weak traders over here at the Crows.

He is probably worth a late 2nd round pick around the 35 mark but when a player wants to leave for opportunity then other clubs are not going to trade a lot for him.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: shaker on October 20, 2016, 01:35:34 PM
Quote from: AaronKirk on October 20, 2016, 01:33:41 PM
Quote from: TomK on October 20, 2016, 01:27:44 PM
Quote from: shaker on October 20, 2016, 01:22:50 PM
Quote from: AaronKirk on October 20, 2016, 12:58:06 PM
Gold Coast have traded picks 43 + 67 to Adelaide for Lyons and Pick 71

Surely Lyons was worth a 2nd round pick ?
You're not alone. We're weak traders over here at the Crows.

He is probably worth a late 2nd round pick around the 35 mark but when a player wants to leave for opportunity then other clubs are not going to trade a lot for him.

Yes I suppose if there was no other interest in him but it is still a poor trade
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: PowerBug on October 20, 2016, 01:36:50 PM

Sebastian Finnegan
‏@Sebayouripper

BREAKING:Hawks offer Duryea, Schoenmakers & pick 10 for Jaeger and pick 43. Hawks just got extremely desperate. @Robbo_heraldsun #AFLTrades
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: GoLions on October 20, 2016, 01:37:07 PM
Quote from: shaker on October 20, 2016, 01:35:34 PM
Quote from: AaronKirk on October 20, 2016, 01:33:41 PM
Quote from: TomK on October 20, 2016, 01:27:44 PM
Quote from: shaker on October 20, 2016, 01:22:50 PM
Quote from: AaronKirk on October 20, 2016, 12:58:06 PM
Gold Coast have traded picks 43 + 67 to Adelaide for Lyons and Pick 71

Surely Lyons was worth a 2nd round pick ?
You're not alone. We're weak traders over here at the Crows.

He is probably worth a late 2nd round pick around the 35 mark but when a player wants to leave for opportunity then other clubs are not going to trade a lot for him.

Yes I suppose if there was no other interest in him but it is still a poor trade
Also doesn't help when a player nominates a specific club, best case they were getting 35 from the Suns
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: GoLions on October 20, 2016, 01:38:28 PM
Quote from: PowerBug on October 20, 2016, 01:36:50 PM

Sebastian Finnegan
‏@Sebayouripper

BREAKING:Hawks offer Duryea, Schoenmakers & pick 10 for Jaeger and pick 43. Hawks just got extremely desperate. @Robbo_heraldsun #AFLTrades
Crows have 43 now though, so would that be 35 then?
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: AaronKirk on October 20, 2016, 01:39:28 PM
Quote from: GoLions on October 20, 2016, 01:37:07 PM
Quote from: shaker on October 20, 2016, 01:35:34 PM
Quote from: AaronKirk on October 20, 2016, 01:33:41 PM
Quote from: TomK on October 20, 2016, 01:27:44 PM
Quote from: shaker on October 20, 2016, 01:22:50 PM
Quote from: AaronKirk on October 20, 2016, 12:58:06 PM
Gold Coast have traded picks 43 + 67 to Adelaide for Lyons and Pick 71

Surely Lyons was worth a 2nd round pick ?
You're not alone. We're weak traders over here at the Crows.

He is probably worth a late 2nd round pick around the 35 mark but when a player wants to leave for opportunity then other clubs are not going to trade a lot for him.

Yes I suppose if there was no other interest in him but it is still a poor trade
Also doesn't help when a player nominates a specific club, best case they were getting 35 from the Suns
And pick 35 in the scheme of things is the top end of what Lyons was worth in the current market.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: GoLions on October 20, 2016, 01:39:39 PM
Cloke for 76
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: PowerBug on October 20, 2016, 01:41:01 PM
Quote from: GoLions on October 20, 2016, 01:38:28 PM
Quote from: PowerBug on October 20, 2016, 01:36:50 PM

Sebastian Finnegan
‏@Sebayouripper

BREAKING:Hawks offer Duryea, Schoenmakers & pick 10 for Jaeger and pick 43. Hawks just got extremely desperate. @Robbo_heraldsun #AFLTrades
Crows have 43 now though, so would that be 35 then?
Could be now yeah.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: GoLions on October 20, 2016, 01:41:35 PM
Stewart for 77
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: AaronKirk on October 20, 2016, 01:42:21 PM
Quote from: GoLions on October 20, 2016, 01:41:35 PM
Stewart for 77

Bargain. Happy with that.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: GoLions on October 20, 2016, 01:44:11 PM
Quote from: AaronKirk on October 20, 2016, 01:42:21 PM
Quote from: GoLions on October 20, 2016, 01:41:35 PM
Stewart for 77

Bargain. Happy with that.
Yep, could be really good for you guys
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: RaisyDaisy on October 20, 2016, 01:44:49 PM
Mitchell for 88
Vardy for 72

Winning  8)
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: GoLions on October 20, 2016, 01:45:24 PM
Black to the Cats for 92
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: RiOtChEsS on October 20, 2016, 01:45:43 PM
cmon SOS get a wriggle on...
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Holz on October 20, 2016, 01:50:37 PM
Quote from: Scrads on October 20, 2016, 01:32:35 PM
Quote from: meow meow on October 20, 2016, 01:24:44 PM
He's another wasted pick by GWS. Picked him out of the Bendigo league instead of the usual under 18 pathway.

Yeah, because GWS are doing so awful! Haha

they have wasted alot of picks though.

they have had everything stacked their way, with soo many picks and now academy steals.

they have made some shocking picks though

2   Jonathan O'Rourke
3   Lachlan Plowman
12   Kristian Jaksch
14   Aidan Corr
27   James Stewart
14   Cameron McCarthy
4   Jarrod Pickett
6   Caleb Marchbank
7   Paul Ahern
23   Patrick McKenna

thats just in their first 3 years.

if you look at their best players.

Ward - Free agent
Shaw - Traded in
Mumford - Traded in
Phil Davis - Free Agent
Cameron - underage recruit
Shiel - underage recruit
Scully - Free agent
Griffen - Traded in
SJ - Free agent
Zac Williams - Rookie
Hopper - Academy Player
Kennedy - Academy Player
Perryman - Academy Player
Setterfield - Academy Player


Greene - good draft pick
Congis - good draft pick
Whitfield - decent draft pick
Devon Smith - good draft pick


so basically given how many national picks they have had they are shocking at drafting.

they dominated in the underage recruits and have traded and picked up free agents very very well.

Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: GoLions on October 20, 2016, 01:53:50 PM
Quote from: PowerBug on October 20, 2016, 01:41:01 PM
Quote from: GoLions on October 20, 2016, 01:38:28 PM
Quote from: PowerBug on October 20, 2016, 01:36:50 PM

Sebastian Finnegan
‏@Sebayouripper

BREAKING:Hawks offer Duryea, Schoenmakers & pick 10 for Jaeger and pick 43. Hawks just got extremely desperate. @Robbo_heraldsun #AFLTrades
Crows have 43 now though, so would that be 35 then?
Could be now yeah.
Hawks apparently looking for a future 2nd rounder to add to the deal
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: RaisyDaisy on October 20, 2016, 01:54:33 PM
Geez Hawks are paying up for JOM!

Sounding a little desperate now
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: AaronKirk on October 20, 2016, 01:55:33 PM
GWS Giants exchange Will Hoskin-Elliott to Collingwood for its 2017 Future Round Two Selection.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: iZander on October 20, 2016, 01:56:26 PM
Quote from: Holz on October 20, 2016, 01:50:37 PM
Quote from: Scrads on October 20, 2016, 01:32:35 PM
Quote from: meow meow on October 20, 2016, 01:24:44 PM
He's another wasted pick by GWS. Picked him out of the Bendigo league instead of the usual under 18 pathway.

Yeah, because GWS are doing so awful! Haha

they have wasted alot of picks though.

they have had everything stacked their way, with soo many picks and now academy steals.

they have made some shocking picks though

2   Jonathan O'Rourke
3   Lachlan Plowman
12   Kristian Jaksch
14   Aidan Corr
27   James Stewart
14   Cameron McCarthy
4   Jarrod Pickett
6   Caleb Marchbank
7   Paul Ahern
23   Patrick McKenna

thats just in their first 3 years.

if you look at their best players.

Ward - Free agent
Shaw - Traded in
Mumford - Traded in
Phil Davis - Free Agent
Cameron - underage recruit
Shiel - underage recruit
Scully - Free agent
Griffen - Traded in
SJ - Free agent
Zac Williams - Rookie
Hopper - Academy Player
Kennedy - Academy Player
Perryman - Academy Player
Setterfield - Academy Player


Greene - good draft pick
Congis - good draft pick
Whitfield - decent draft pick
Devon Smith - good draft pick


so basically given how many national picks they have had they are shocking at drafting.

they dominated in the underage recruits and have traded and picked up free agents very very well.
They have just been given too many draft picks that it doesnt matter, half of those who are in the "shocking picks" list will have perfectly fine careers. Just GWS have picks/young players coming out there ears so they trade them away for chips.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: GoLions on October 20, 2016, 01:57:28 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on October 20, 2016, 01:54:33 PM
Geez Hawks are paying up for JOM!

Sounding a little desperate now
Good on the Suns I say
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: elephants on October 20, 2016, 01:57:29 PM
Far out, imagine if GWS drafted well then :s
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: meow meow on October 20, 2016, 01:59:16 PM
It definitely matters when other teams are outdrafting them. We'll smash them and be the team that wins 5 out of 10 flags, not GC or GWS.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: RiOtChEsS on October 20, 2016, 01:59:27 PM
Quote from: iZander on October 20, 2016, 01:56:26 PM
Quote from: Holz on October 20, 2016, 01:50:37 PM
Quote from: Scrads on October 20, 2016, 01:32:35 PM
Quote from: meow meow on October 20, 2016, 01:24:44 PM
He's another wasted pick by GWS. Picked him out of the Bendigo league instead of the usual under 18 pathway.

Yeah, because GWS are doing so awful! Haha

they have wasted alot of picks though.

they have had everything stacked their way, with soo many picks and now academy steals.

they have made some shocking picks though

2   Jonathan O'Rourke
3   Lachlan Plowman
12   Kristian Jaksch
14   Aidan Corr
27   James Stewart
14   Cameron McCarthy
4   Jarrod Pickett
6   Caleb Marchbank
7   Paul Ahern
23   Patrick McKenna

thats just in their first 3 years.

if you look at their best players.

Ward - Free agent
Shaw - Traded in
Mumford - Traded in
Phil Davis - Free Agent
Cameron - underage recruit
Shiel - underage recruit
Scully - Free agent
Griffen - Traded in
SJ - Free agent
Zac Williams - Rookie
Hopper - Academy Player
Kennedy - Academy Player
Perryman - Academy Player
Setterfield - Academy Player


Greene - good draft pick
Congis - good draft pick
Whitfield - decent draft pick
Devon Smith - good draft pick


so basically given how many national picks they have had they are shocking at drafting.

they dominated in the underage recruits and have traded and picked up free agents very very well.
They have just been given too many draft picks that it doesnt matter, half of those who are in the "shocking picks" list will have perfectly fine careers. Just GWS have picks/young players coming out there ears so they trade them away for chips.
Taylor Adams, Adam Treloar, Dylan Shiel...
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Scrads on October 20, 2016, 01:59:54 PM
You also forgot good picks from GWS like Taylor Adams and Dom Tyson who now play for other teams.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: iZander on October 20, 2016, 02:06:58 PM
Quote from: RiOtChEsS on October 20, 2016, 01:59:27 PM
Quote from: iZander on October 20, 2016, 01:56:26 PM
Quote from: Holz on October 20, 2016, 01:50:37 PM
Quote from: Scrads on October 20, 2016, 01:32:35 PM
Quote from: meow meow on October 20, 2016, 01:24:44 PM
He's another wasted pick by GWS. Picked him out of the Bendigo league instead of the usual under 18 pathway.

Yeah, because GWS are doing so awful! Haha

they have wasted alot of picks though.

they have had everything stacked their way, with soo many picks and now academy steals.

they have made some shocking picks though

2   Jonathan O'Rourke
3   Lachlan Plowman
12   Kristian Jaksch
14   Aidan Corr
27   James Stewart
14   Cameron McCarthy
4   Jarrod Pickett
6   Caleb Marchbank
7   Paul Ahern
23   Patrick McKenna

thats just in their first 3 years.

if you look at their best players.

Ward - Free agent
Shaw - Traded in
Mumford - Traded in
Phil Davis - Free Agent
Cameron - underage recruit
Shiel - underage recruit
Scully - Free agent
Griffen - Traded in
SJ - Free agent
Zac Williams - Rookie
Hopper - Academy Player
Kennedy - Academy Player
Perryman - Academy Player
Setterfield - Academy Player


Greene - good draft pick
Congis - good draft pick
Whitfield - decent draft pick
Devon Smith - good draft pick


so basically given how many national picks they have had they are shocking at drafting.

they dominated in the underage recruits and have traded and picked up free agents very very well.
They have just been given too many draft picks that it doesnt matter, half of those who are in the "shocking picks" list will have perfectly fine careers. Just GWS have picks/young players coming out there ears so they trade them away for chips.
Taylor Adams, Adam Treloar, Dylan Shiel...
These were good picks......

That is really just a side effect of having so many picks...nothing to do with drafting....

If they didnt have so many picks/young guns they wouldnt of traded these players/players looking for more oppotunity.

Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: meow meow on October 20, 2016, 02:07:10 PM
Assuming Collingwood finish mid table GWS just traded JOM > #4 > WHE > #30 next year. They're even screwing up the extra handouts that the AFL gave them that GC didn't receive.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: GoLions on October 20, 2016, 02:07:45 PM
Marley Williams chosen North
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Purple 77 on October 20, 2016, 02:07:48 PM
Sumner was high too wasn't he?

Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: GoLions on October 20, 2016, 02:08:16 PM
Quote from: GoLions on October 20, 2016, 02:07:45 PM
Marley Williams chosen North
Apparently for pick 105
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: iZander on October 20, 2016, 02:09:29 PM
Quote from: Purple 77 on October 20, 2016, 02:07:48 PM
Sumner was high too wasn't he?
Forgets one of the 5 or so actual really good examples lel
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: meow meow on October 20, 2016, 02:09:51 PM
Quote from: Purple 77 on October 20, 2016, 02:07:48 PM
Sumner was high too wasn't he?

#10
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: RiOtChEsS on October 20, 2016, 02:10:39 PM
with 45mins left im literally showerting my pants, cmon SOSage deal :-\
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Purple 77 on October 20, 2016, 02:12:52 PM
Lol, I can't study.

I'm waiting out the remaining 44 mins!
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: GoLions on October 20, 2016, 02:13:48 PM
Quote from: Purple 77 on October 20, 2016, 02:12:52 PM
Lol, I can't study.

I'm waiting out the remaining 44 mins!
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Purple 77 on October 20, 2016, 02:14:56 PM
Apparently Dawes just got told he'll get delisted today.

#TheMcKennaEffect
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: meow meow on October 20, 2016, 02:16:13 PM
Quote from: elephants on October 17, 2016, 02:55:22 PM
Quote from: meow meow on October 17, 2016, 02:52:22 PM
Is it going to be one of those years when teams screw around for 2 weeks then miss the deadline by 5 minutes?

Oh of course, wouldn't be a trade period if that didn't happen right?

Looking quite likely!
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Holz on October 20, 2016, 02:19:39 PM
Quote from: Scrads on October 20, 2016, 01:59:54 PM
You also forgot good picks from GWS like Taylor Adams and Dom Tyson who now play for other teams.

when im saying a player was a bad pick im talking about the club who drafted him.

if you draft a guy pick 10 and then trade him away for not that much (not saying that was what happened with above) and then they become the best afl player ever then its a bad pick by the club who drafted them.

they have had soo many high picks that if they drafted well they would be almost invincible if not for cap reasons.

as an example in 2012 they had pick 1 2 3 12 14 and got whitfield, o rouke, plowman, jaksch, corr

now whitfield is a reasonably bad pick 1 but he was the clear 1 at that stage and is still a fairly decent player.

now pick 2 and 3 were bad and loads of people had Wines rated to be a top 3 pick and stringer was the number 1 pick before getting injured.

the other one was people where screaming out to pick up Grundy and they could have done it with 12/14.

while 12/14 picks werent good there wasnt anyone obvious to pick up

so they got whitfield, o rouke, plowman, jaksch, corr

when they could have got whitfield, wines, stringer, grundy and lets say nothing.

I also think having too much talent has stalled good players too.





Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: elephants on October 20, 2016, 02:20:03 PM
Quote from: meow meow on October 20, 2016, 02:16:13 PM
Quote from: elephants on October 17, 2016, 02:55:22 PM
Quote from: meow meow on October 17, 2016, 02:52:22 PM
Is it going to be one of those years when teams screw around for 2 weeks then miss the deadline by 5 minutes?

Oh of course, wouldn't be a trade period if that didn't happen right?

Looking quite likely!

Would be hilarious if the Gibbs deal is slotted through 10 minutes late in the hope nobody notices
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Purple 77 on October 20, 2016, 02:23:41 PM
33 mins to go, and Lids, Gibbs and JOM remain!
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: GoLions on October 20, 2016, 02:23:52 PM
Frost is now a Lion
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: meow meow on October 20, 2016, 02:25:32 PM
Quote from: elephants on October 20, 2016, 02:20:03 PM
Quote from: meow meow on October 20, 2016, 02:16:13 PM
Quote from: elephants on October 17, 2016, 02:55:22 PM
Quote from: meow meow on October 17, 2016, 02:52:22 PM
Is it going to be one of those years when teams screw around for 2 weeks then miss the deadline by 5 minutes?

Oh of course, wouldn't be a trade period if that didn't happen right?

Looking quite likely!

Would be hilarious if the Softie deal is slotted through 10 minutes late in the hope nobody notices

Would be better if the Hawks lodge the JOM deal 1 second too late then he stays at GC.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: meow meow on October 20, 2016, 02:26:08 PM
Quote from: Purple 77 on October 20, 2016, 02:23:41 PM
33 mins to go, and Lids, Softie and JOM remain!

You're forgetting Dunn!
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Bill Manspeaker on October 20, 2016, 02:26:41 PM
Tony Cochrane is awesome. don't fold. make Hawks take him at 10 in the ND

or better yet, Gold Coast should take him again before 10. flower that'd be funny
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: GoLions on October 20, 2016, 02:27:23 PM
Quote from: Bill Manspeaker on October 20, 2016, 02:26:41 PM
Tony Cochrane is awesome. don't fold. make Hawks take him at 10 in the ND

or better yet, Gold Coast should take him again before 10. flower that'd be funny
Apparently they just did :o
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: iZander on October 20, 2016, 02:28:09 PM
Quote from: meow meow on October 20, 2016, 02:25:32 PM
Quote from: elephants on October 20, 2016, 02:20:03 PM
Quote from: meow meow on October 20, 2016, 02:16:13 PM
Quote from: elephants on October 17, 2016, 02:55:22 PM
Quote from: meow meow on October 17, 2016, 02:52:22 PM
Is it going to be one of those years when teams screw around for 2 weeks then miss the deadline by 5 minutes?

Oh of course, wouldn't be a trade period if that didn't happen right?

Looking quite likely!

Would be hilarious if the Softie deal is slotted through 10 minutes late in the hope nobody notices

Would be better if the Hawks lodge the JOM deal 1 second too late then he stays at GC. goes into the psd
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: elephants on October 20, 2016, 02:28:22 PM
Quote from: meow meow on October 20, 2016, 02:25:32 PM
Quote from: elephants on October 20, 2016, 02:20:03 PM
Quote from: meow meow on October 20, 2016, 02:16:13 PM
Quote from: elephants on October 17, 2016, 02:55:22 PM
Quote from: meow meow on October 17, 2016, 02:52:22 PM
Is it going to be one of those years when teams screw around for 2 weeks then miss the deadline by 5 minutes?

Oh of course, wouldn't be a trade period if that didn't happen right?

Looking quite likely!

Would be hilarious if the Softie deal is slotted through 10 minutes late in the hope nobody notices

Would be better if the Hawks lodge the JOM deal 1 second too late then he stays at GC.

I'd rather see the Hawks panic and trade all their picks this year + Hartung + Duryea + Tom Mitchell for JOM lol
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Bill Manspeaker on October 20, 2016, 02:28:34 PM
trade radio just shower itself. every barbie's jumping on
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: GoLions on October 20, 2016, 02:29:14 PM
Dunn and 51 to the Pies for 47
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Purple 77 on October 20, 2016, 02:32:04 PM
Quote from: GoLions on October 20, 2016, 02:29:14 PM
Dunn and 51 to the Pies for 47

From Demonland... it's fantastic:

QuoteGoodbye Lynden Dunn
Though I hardly knew you at all
You had the grace to play with Neeld
While those around you bawled

You tried to play up forward
But you couldn't hold down a place
They sent you down to full back
And you grew fuzz on your face

And it seems to me
you lived your life

Like a Bailey/Neeld thing
Never knowing who to kick to
While oppos closed in
And I would have liked to see you
Play in a bunch of wins
Those coaches killed you long before
PJ and Roos came in
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Mat0369 on October 20, 2016, 02:33:43 PM
Have we traded for Marchbank yet?
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: meow meow on October 20, 2016, 02:35:13 PM
Quote from: Mat0369 on October 20, 2016, 02:33:43 PM
Have we traded for Marchbank yet?

Haven't done shower today. SOS slept in.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Mat0369 on October 20, 2016, 02:36:08 PM
You know what would have saved us trading for Marchbank? If the old regime had not traded pick 6 in the first place for Jaksch, Wiley and Boekhorst!
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: GoLions on October 20, 2016, 02:36:22 PM
Quote from: meow meow on October 20, 2016, 02:35:13 PM
Quote from: Mat0369 on October 20, 2016, 02:33:43 PM
Have we traded for Marchbank yet?

Haven't done shower today. SOS slept in.
Heh, basically. Apparently involved in the JOM deal. I reckon Duryea could be a Blue soon.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: PowerBug on October 20, 2016, 02:38:12 PM
inb4 Softie for 13 straight swap like what was reported two weeks ago

and also JOM for 10 and 48 (Was that right?) like I think was also offered at the start of the period.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Purple 77 on October 20, 2016, 02:38:26 PM
I wouldn't mind another Hawk for our future 2nd rounder, btw
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Bill Manspeaker on October 20, 2016, 02:39:26 PM
hahaha this is so good
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Mat0369 on October 20, 2016, 02:39:59 PM
Quote from: PowerBug on October 20, 2016, 02:38:12 PM
inb4 Softie for 13 straight swap like what was reported two weeks ago

We won't trade him if that's the case. I reckon Bryce stays at the Blues.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: PowerBug on October 20, 2016, 02:41:49 PM
Quote from: Mat0369 on October 20, 2016, 02:39:59 PM
Quote from: PowerBug on October 20, 2016, 02:38:12 PM
inb4 Softie for 13 straight swap like what was reported two weeks ago

We won't trade him if that's the case. I reckon Bryce stays at the Blues.
I'm just saying It'd be funny if Carlton just fold and let it happen after all the talk ;)



Has anyone since Nick Stevens been forced to the National Draft?
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Mat0369 on October 20, 2016, 02:42:45 PM
Luke Ball

Stevens is also PSD not NAT
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Purple 77 on October 20, 2016, 02:44:04 PM
Crazy. 13 mins to go!
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: PowerBug on October 20, 2016, 02:44:21 PM
Patrick Keane ‏@AFL_PKeane 13s14 seconds ago
As reminder to all media, all correct paperwork received in room BEFORE 2pm deadline will count as official, even if processed post 2pm.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Rusty00 on October 20, 2016, 02:45:35 PM
Quote from: Bill Manspeaker on October 20, 2016, 02:26:41 PM
Tony Cochrane is awesome. don't fold. make Hawks take him at 10 in the ND

You do realise that would be to our advantage given GC are wanting more than just pick 10 for him. In that scenario we still get O'Meara, we still lose Pick 10, we don't lose anything else and GC get nothing.....
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: GoLions on October 20, 2016, 02:46:18 PM
Quote from: Rusty00 on October 20, 2016, 02:45:35 PM
Quote from: Bill Manspeaker on October 20, 2016, 02:26:41 PM
Tony Cochrane is awesome. don't fold. make Hawks take him at 10 in the ND

You do realise that would be to our advantage given GC are wanting more than just pick 10 for him. In that scenario we still get O'Meara, we still lose Pick 10, we don't lose anything else and GC get nothing.....
Suns take him at 8 "for spite" :P
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Rusty00 on October 20, 2016, 02:47:08 PM
Quote from: GoLions on October 20, 2016, 02:46:18 PM
Quote from: Rusty00 on October 20, 2016, 02:45:35 PM
Quote from: Bill Manspeaker on October 20, 2016, 02:26:41 PM
Tony Cochrane is awesome. don't fold. make Hawks take him at 10 in the ND

You do realise that would be to our advantage given GC are wanting more than just pick 10 for him. In that scenario we still get O'Meara, we still lose Pick 10, we don't lose anything else and GC get nothing.....
Suns take him at 8 "for spite" :P
Why would Spite want him at the Suns ???
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Purple 77 on October 20, 2016, 02:47:23 PM
Apparently JOM is a hawk
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: GoLions on October 20, 2016, 02:47:37 PM
JOM a Hawk
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: elephants on October 20, 2016, 02:48:09 PM
BREAKING:
O'Meara a HAWK!
Deal will be posted as soon as made available.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: GoLions on October 20, 2016, 02:48:23 PM
Quote from: Rusty00 on October 20, 2016, 02:47:08 PM
Quote from: GoLions on October 20, 2016, 02:46:18 PM
Quote from: Rusty00 on October 20, 2016, 02:45:35 PM
Quote from: Bill Manspeaker on October 20, 2016, 02:26:41 PM
Tony Cochrane is awesome. don't fold. make Hawks take him at 10 in the ND

You do realise that would be to our advantage given GC are wanting more than just pick 10 for him. In that scenario we still get O'Meara, we still lose Pick 10, we don't lose anything else and GC get nothing.....
Suns take him at 8 "for spite" :P
Why would Spite want him at the Suns ???
Because you don't watch enough Seinfeld, that's why
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Bill Manspeaker on October 20, 2016, 02:48:49 PM
haha Barrett... "you just gotta hand it to Hawthorn"

sold the farm for a bloke who'll barely play!  ;D
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: PowerBug on October 20, 2016, 02:49:33 PM
Is Port Adelaide present??
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: GoLions on October 20, 2016, 02:50:45 PM
Apparently Marchbank a Blue and Lids a Giant
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: nas on October 20, 2016, 02:51:26 PM
Quote from: PowerBug on October 20, 2016, 02:49:33 PM
Is Port Adelaide present??

Car broke down @ Bordertown on way there.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: elephants on October 20, 2016, 02:53:37 PM
THERE IT IS

Gold Coast gets Pick 10 and two future seconds round selections, Hawthorn gets Jaeger O'Meara
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: PowerBug on October 20, 2016, 02:55:09 PM
Quote from: elephants on October 20, 2016, 02:53:37 PM
THERE IT IS

Gold Coast gets Pick 10 and two future seconds round selections, Hawthorn gets Jaeger O'Meara
So JOM for picks only like they said WOULDN'T happen. They folded to the thoughts of losing him for nothing.


NAB AFL Trade Radio ‏@traderadio now
Gold Coast now have picks 4, 6, 8, 10 & 73 in this year's draft
#NABTradeRadio #DeadlineDay
So they've gone full reset and it's basically like the 2010 draft again :P
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Bill Manspeaker on October 20, 2016, 02:56:37 PM
Gibbsy stays
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: meow meow on October 20, 2016, 02:57:17 PM
Quote from: elephants on October 20, 2016, 02:53:37 PM
THERE IT IS

Gold Coast gets Pick 10 and two future seconds round selections, Hawthorn gets Jaeger O'Meara

Where'd they get the second 2nd rounder from?
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: elephants on October 20, 2016, 02:57:53 PM
Don't mind that from the Suns though, they held out for as long as possible to get this better offer.

Now I wonder what the Hawks paid for this extra future second.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Grazz on October 20, 2016, 02:58:10 PM
Quote from: nas on October 20, 2016, 02:51:26 PM
Quote from: PowerBug on October 20, 2016, 02:49:33 PM
Is Port Adelaide present??

Car broke down @ Bordertown on way there.

Stole another one. :P
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Rusty00 on October 20, 2016, 02:58:11 PM
Turns out SOS wasn't bluffing.......
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Bill Manspeaker on October 20, 2016, 02:58:18 PM
Quote from: Bill Manspeaker on October 20, 2016, 02:56:37 PM
Softiey stays
lmao now I get why people kept saying Softie ;D
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: elephants on October 20, 2016, 03:00:11 PM
Quote from: Bill Manspeaker on October 20, 2016, 02:58:18 PM
Quote from: Bill Manspeaker on October 20, 2016, 02:56:37 PM
Softiey stays
lmao now I get why people kept saying Softie ;D

Haha I assumed it was cos of this

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bvXYAazPJnA
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: GoLions on October 20, 2016, 03:00:23 PM
Koby deal done apparently
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: AaronKirk on October 20, 2016, 03:01:04 PM
Koby Stevens to St Kilda with a swap of a 3rd and 4th rd picks attached.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: kilbluff1985 on October 20, 2016, 03:01:37 PM
Carlton traded GWS a 2nd rounder for JOM
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: AaronKirk on October 20, 2016, 03:01:40 PM
No Gibbs deal.

He stays at Carlton
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: GoLions on October 20, 2016, 03:02:51 PM
Pickett to the Blues
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: AaronKirk on October 20, 2016, 03:02:59 PM
Marchbank and Pickett are both now Blues for pick 45 and 58
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: meow meow on October 20, 2016, 03:03:14 PM
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on October 20, 2016, 03:01:37 PM
Carlton traded GWS a 2nd rounder for JOM

So how did the Hawks get it?
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Bill Manspeaker on October 20, 2016, 03:03:34 PM
Quote from: elephants on October 20, 2016, 03:00:11 PM
Quote from: Bill Manspeaker on October 20, 2016, 02:58:18 PM
Quote from: Bill Manspeaker on October 20, 2016, 02:56:37 PM
Softiey stays
lmao now I get why people kept saying Softie ;D

Haha I assumed it was cos of this

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bvXYAazPJnA
if Milney came running at you you'd wanna back down too :P

NAH LOVE YA MILNEY
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: GoLions on October 20, 2016, 03:04:15 PM
Quote from: AaronKirk on October 20, 2016, 03:02:59 PM
Marchbank and Pickett are both now Blues for pick 45 and 58
Palmer too
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Jay on October 20, 2016, 03:04:28 PM
Enjoy bottom 4 until Gibbs is an old man, Blues!

We put all our hopes into the Gibbs deal, and are now left with donuts, and lost Lyons! What a disaster.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: PowerBug on October 20, 2016, 03:05:26 PM
NAB AFL Trade Radio ‏@traderadio 1m1 minute ago

Carlton has also traded Rhys Palmer for pick 135
#NABTradeRadio #DeadlineDay

lol what, Pick 135!

Quote from: Jay on October 20, 2016, 03:04:28 PM
Enjoy bottom 4 until Softie is an old man, Blues!

We put all our hopes into the Softie deal, and are now left with donuts, and lost Lyons! What a disaster.
Not a good trade period for South Australia :'( Can we hit the reset button and start again?
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: shaker on October 20, 2016, 03:05:54 PM
Quote from: Rusty00 on October 20, 2016, 02:58:11 PM
Turns out SOS wasn't bluffing.......

Turns out SOS is toss good luck with a very unhappy player
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: kilbluff1985 on October 20, 2016, 03:06:00 PM
Quote from: meow meow on October 20, 2016, 03:03:14 PM
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on October 20, 2016, 03:01:37 PM
Carlton traded GWS a 2nd rounder for JOM

So how did the Hawks get it?

shower #KBMOMENT

traded it to hawks not gws
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: AaronKirk on October 20, 2016, 03:06:42 PM
Rhys Palmer to Carlton for pick 135

Lids to GWS for a future 1st rd pick GWS got from Geelong(?) plus a future 3rd rd pick
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: meow meow on October 20, 2016, 03:07:42 PM
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on October 20, 2016, 03:06:00 PM
Quote from: meow meow on October 20, 2016, 03:03:14 PM
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on October 20, 2016, 03:01:37 PM
Carlton traded GWS a 2nd rounder for JOM

So how did the Hawks get it?

shower #KBMOMENT

traded it to hawks not gws

Haha easy to get confused with so much shower going on.

Wonder what the Hawks gave up to get it though.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: PowerBug on October 20, 2016, 03:07:44 PM
The amount of pick going around it's impossible to keep count I bet the AFL has made a mistake somewhere
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Purple 77 on October 20, 2016, 03:08:30 PM
Apparently...

Hawks got O'Meara deal for pick 10 and swapped 48, 66 and 70 for Blues' 2nd round.

Say it isn't so, Carlton,
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: elephants on October 20, 2016, 03:08:57 PM
Quote from: meow meow on October 20, 2016, 03:07:42 PM
Wonder what the Hawks gave up to get it though.

Exactly, this defines the deal imo!
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: PowerBug on October 20, 2016, 03:09:01 PM
Travis King @TravisKing
Hawks got O'Meara deal for pick 10 and swapped 48, 66 and 70 for Blues' 2nd round. No Hawks player involved.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: kilbluff1985 on October 20, 2016, 03:11:28 PM
Quote from: Purple 77 on October 20, 2016, 03:08:30 PM
Apparently...

Hawks got O'Meara deal for pick 10 and swapped 48, 66 and 70 for Blues' 2nd round.

Say it isn't so, Carlton,

so dumb by Carlton
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Purple 77 on October 20, 2016, 03:12:29 PM
Carlton don't have a F/S this year do they?

WHY THE flower WOULD YOU DO THAT DEAL?!

Still holding out hope that it's not true
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: iZander on October 20, 2016, 03:12:44 PM
Quite clearly hawks relying on there old friend at Carlton for this one...

Terrible by Carlton but obviously wasnt done for Carltons benefit...
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: PowerBug on October 20, 2016, 03:12:44 PM
Quote from: meow meow on October 19, 2016, 11:56:17 PM
Quote from: meow meow on October 18, 2016, 07:19:46 PM
Who is left?

Softie?
Rocky? unlikely
Koby
Hrovat
Pickett
Marchbank
Hoskin-Elliott
Palmer
Stewart
Witts
Prestia
JOM
Vardy
Nank
Richards
Mackenzie
Brown
Silvagni
Lids?
Tuohy
Kersten
Lyons
CEY
Ah Choo
Cloke
Dunn
Grigg
Marsh
Hibberd
Lonergan?

Then the delisted FA's

Barlow
Petrie
Wilbur
Green
Grimes
Henderson
Dempsey?
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: meow meow on October 20, 2016, 03:13:11 PM
Haha all these Blues fans wanted SOS back but he is a total spud.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: TomK on October 20, 2016, 03:15:10 PM
Go flower yourself SOS you un-empathetic arrogant flog.

What a nightmare.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: AaronKirk on October 20, 2016, 03:15:22 PM
Quote from: meow meow on October 20, 2016, 03:13:11 PM
Haha all these Blues fans wanted SOS back but he is a total spud.

They effectively used that 2017 2nd round pick to get Marchbank and Pickett

I don't think that is too bad TBH.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: meow meow on October 20, 2016, 03:16:02 PM
Quote from: meow meow on October 20, 2016, 03:13:11 PM
Haha all these Blues fans wanted SOS back but he is a total spud.

Actually, seeing what they gave up for Marchbank and Pickett... he's a genius!
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Jay on October 20, 2016, 03:17:47 PM
Quote from: TomK on October 20, 2016, 03:15:10 PM
Go flower yourself SOS you un-empathetic arrogant flog.

What a nightmare.
I'm still holding out hope that this is just a nightmare and we'll have either Lyons or Gibbs when I wake up  :-\

If literally all we did this trade period was re-sign Jarryd Lyons I'd be quite happy. But to lose him for nothing and not get anyone else cannot be true.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: PowerBug on October 20, 2016, 03:17:49 PM
I'd like to see all related trades be shown as one big mega trade :P
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: AaronKirk on October 20, 2016, 03:20:18 PM
Quote from: Jay on October 20, 2016, 03:17:47 PM
Quote from: TomK on October 20, 2016, 03:15:10 PM
Go flower yourself SOS you un-empathetic arrogant flog.

What a nightmare.
I'm still holding out hope that this is just a nightmare and we'll have either Lyons or Softie when I wake up  :-\

If literally all we did this trade period was re-sign Jarryd Lyons I'd be quite happy. But to lose him for nothing and not get anyone else cannot be true.

You lost Lyons for market value? Cannot complain

Gibbs has a 3 year contract. You needed to offer more. Don't whinge at Carlton. Whinge at your own people for not getting the deal done.

Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: PowerBug on October 20, 2016, 03:22:47 PM
Quote from: AaronKirk on October 20, 2016, 03:20:18 PM
Softie has a 3 year contract. You needed to offer more. Don't whinge at Carlton. Whinge at your own people for not getting the deal done.
Crows fans tho AK, probably the umpires fault :P
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: meow meow on October 20, 2016, 03:23:50 PM
Quote from: PowerBug on October 20, 2016, 03:17:49 PM
I'd like to see all related trades be shown as one big mega trade :P

I'll give it a crack later
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: meow meow on October 20, 2016, 03:24:56 PM
Quote from: PowerBug on October 20, 2016, 03:22:47 PM
Quote from: AaronKirk on October 20, 2016, 03:20:18 PM
Softie has a 3 year contract. You needed to offer more. Don't whinge at Carlton. Whinge at your own people for not getting the deal done.
Crows fans tho AK, probably the umpires fault :P

It was probably lodged but blocked by the flowering VFL, amirite?
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: GoLions on October 20, 2016, 03:25:04 PM
Quote from: meow meow on October 20, 2016, 03:16:02 PM
Quote from: meow meow on October 20, 2016, 03:13:11 PM
Haha all these Blues fans wanted SOS back but he is a total spud.

Actually, seeing what they gave up for Marchbank and Pickett... he's a genius!
Also swapped future 1st rounders
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: PowerBug on October 20, 2016, 03:25:58 PM
NAB AFL Trade Radio ‏@traderadio 59s59 seconds ago
PICK SWAP BETWEEN SYDNEY AND PORT ADELAIDE
Swans get: Pick 9, 19, 49
Power get: Pick 14, 17, 31

Gives the Power: 14, 17, 30, 31 this draft
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: meow meow on October 20, 2016, 03:27:17 PM
Quote from: GoLions on October 20, 2016, 03:25:04 PM
Quote from: meow meow on October 20, 2016, 03:16:02 PM
Quote from: meow meow on October 20, 2016, 03:13:11 PM
Haha all these Blues fans wanted SOS back but he is a total spud.

Actually, seeing what they gave up for Marchbank and Pickett... he's a genius!
Also swapped future 1st rounders

Whaaaa? Carlton traded out pick 1?

Edit Geelong's first round pick (Tuohy trade)
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: PowerBug on October 20, 2016, 03:27:33 PM
NAB AFL Trade Radio ‏@traderadio 24s24 seconds ago
BULLDOGS AND ST KILDA TRADE
Saints get: Koby Stevens, pick 61 and 2017 rd 4
Bulldogs get: Pick 50 and 2017 rd 5
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: elephants on October 20, 2016, 03:27:45 PM
Quote from: PowerBug on October 20, 2016, 03:25:58 PM
NAB AFL Trade Radio ‏@traderadio 59s59 seconds ago
PICK SWAP BETWEEN SYDNEY AND PORT ADELAIDE
Swans get: Pick 9, 19, 49
Power get: Pick 14, 17, 31

Gives the Power: 14, 17, 30, 31 this draft

Are South Australian teams determined to trade themselves into the grave? Haha
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: GoLions on October 20, 2016, 03:27:56 PM
Quote from: meow meow on October 20, 2016, 03:27:17 PM
Quote from: GoLions on October 20, 2016, 03:25:04 PM
Quote from: meow meow on October 20, 2016, 03:16:02 PM
Quote from: meow meow on October 20, 2016, 03:13:11 PM
Haha all these Blues fans wanted SOS back but he is a total spud.

Actually, seeing what they gave up for Marchbank and Pickett... he's a genius!
Also swapped future 1st rounders

Whaaaa? Carlton traded out pick 1?
Haha, apparently :P
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: AaronKirk on October 20, 2016, 03:28:34 PM
Quote from: PowerBug on October 20, 2016, 03:22:47 PM
Quote from: AaronKirk on October 20, 2016, 03:20:18 PM
Softie has a 3 year contract. You needed to offer more. Don't whinge at Carlton. Whinge at your own people for not getting the deal done.
Crows fans tho AK, probably the umpires fault :P
True.

If Gibbs wanted to leave why did he sign such a long contract a few years ago?

As he is contracted for 3 more years Adelaide needed to pay above market value to get him. They obviously didn't do that.

There is no empathy in the business community when people have signed contracts so why should there be any empathy from Carlton or anyone in the football community.

Good on them for wanting the best deal possible for a guy they did not want to lose.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: PowerBug on October 20, 2016, 03:28:36 PM
Quote from: meow meow on October 20, 2016, 03:23:50 PM
Quote from: PowerBug on October 20, 2016, 03:17:49 PM
I'd like to see all related trades be shown as one big mega trade :P

I'll give it a crack later
It'd look awesome no doubt! You'll also need to add in things from last year too! (E.g. We got Pick 30 back from the Suns which we gave to them for Dixon last year :P)

Quote from: meow meow on October 20, 2016, 03:24:56 PM
Quote from: PowerBug on October 20, 2016, 03:22:47 PM
Quote from: AaronKirk on October 20, 2016, 03:20:18 PM
Softie has a 3 year contract. You needed to offer more. Don't whinge at Carlton. Whinge at your own people for not getting the deal done.
Crows fans tho AK, probably the umpires fault :P

It was probably lodged but blocked by the flowering VFL, amirite?
Correct!
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: TomK on October 20, 2016, 03:31:01 PM
Quote from: AaronKirk on October 20, 2016, 03:20:18 PM
Quote from: Jay on October 20, 2016, 03:17:47 PM
Quote from: TomK on October 20, 2016, 03:15:10 PM
Go flower yourself SOS you un-empathetic arrogant flog.

What a nightmare.
I'm still holding out hope that this is just a nightmare and we'll have either Lyons or Softie when I wake up  :-\

If literally all we did this trade period was re-sign Jarryd Lyons I'd be quite happy. But to lose him for nothing and not get anyone else cannot be true.

You lost Lyons for market value? Cannot complain

Softie has a 3 year contract. You needed to offer more. Don't whinge at Carlton. Whinge at your own people for not getting the deal done.
You and I have no idea what we offered, his manger said we upped our offer today, he thought it was fair, plenty of people not Crows supporters said pick 13 should be enough. I'm glad we didn't fold and give into Carltons demands but it's pretty obvious they were unreasonable. I look forward to them enjoying an unhappy player.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: elephants on October 20, 2016, 03:34:27 PM
Quote from: TomK on October 20, 2016, 03:31:01 PM
Quote from: AaronKirk on October 20, 2016, 03:20:18 PM
Quote from: Jay on October 20, 2016, 03:17:47 PM
Quote from: TomK on October 20, 2016, 03:15:10 PM
Go flower yourself SOS you un-empathetic arrogant flog.

What a nightmare.
I'm still holding out hope that this is just a nightmare and we'll have either Lyons or Softie when I wake up  :-\

If literally all we did this trade period was re-sign Jarryd Lyons I'd be quite happy. But to lose him for nothing and not get anyone else cannot be true.

You lost Lyons for market value? Cannot complain

Softie has a 3 year contract. You needed to offer more. Don't whinge at Carlton. Whinge at your own people for not getting the deal done.
You and I have no idea what we offered, his manger said we upped our offer today, he thought it was fair, plenty of people not Crows supporters said pick 13 should be enough. I'm glad we didn't fold and give into Carltons demands but it's pretty obvious they were unreasonable. I look forward to them enjoying an unhappy player.

Fairly sure Gibbs will be fine playing out his career at Carlton. He said he'd prefer a move home but would respect his contract. I'm with AK, the onus is on the Crows to satisfy Carlton's demands!

No premiership for Adelaide now, that final puzzle piece is missing!
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Jukes on October 20, 2016, 03:35:21 PM
What is with clubs trading away youngsters with pretty decent potential (Lyons, Stewart, Caddy, Black, Stevens, and then even older guys like Cloke and Dunn) for literally flower-all this trade period? Making some trades absolutely unwinnable for some clubs, and you should go in with the goal of winning every trade.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: TomK on October 20, 2016, 03:35:42 PM
Quote from: AaronKirk on October 20, 2016, 03:28:34 PM
Quote from: PowerBug on October 20, 2016, 03:22:47 PM
Quote from: AaronKirk on October 20, 2016, 03:20:18 PM
Softie has a 3 year contract. You needed to offer more. Don't whinge at Carlton. Whinge at your own people for not getting the deal done.
Crows fans tho AK, probably the umpires fault :P
True.

If Softie wanted to leave why did he sign such a long contract a few years ago?

As he is contracted for 3 more years Adelaide needed to pay above market value to get him. They obviously didn't do that.

There is no empathy in the business community when people have signed contracts so why should there be any empathy from Carlton or anyone in the football community.

Good on them for wanting the best deal possible for a guy they did not want to lose.
He wanted to leave because they had a kid  and wanted to move for family support, everyone deals with these things differently and if they are struggling as a family in Melbourne, surely you'd want to help a player out in these circumstances.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: meow meow on October 20, 2016, 03:37:29 PM
We needed to cut Koby for cap reasons if we were bringing in Cloke (even at half price). Got to keep Jong instead so that's a win. Plus he is a dumb footballer. Tough as hell and has a crack but we won't miss him at all.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: AaronKirk on October 20, 2016, 03:37:47 PM
Quote from: TomK on October 20, 2016, 03:35:42 PM
Quote from: AaronKirk on October 20, 2016, 03:28:34 PM
Quote from: PowerBug on October 20, 2016, 03:22:47 PM
Quote from: AaronKirk on October 20, 2016, 03:20:18 PM
Softie has a 3 year contract. You needed to offer more. Don't whinge at Carlton. Whinge at your own people for not getting the deal done.
Crows fans tho AK, probably the umpires fault :P
True.

If Softie wanted to leave why did he sign such a long contract a few years ago?

As he is contracted for 3 more years Adelaide needed to pay above market value to get him. They obviously didn't do that.

There is no empathy in the business community when people have signed contracts so why should there be any empathy from Carlton or anyone in the football community.

Good on them for wanting the best deal possible for a guy they did not want to lose.
He wanted to leave because they had a kid  and wanted to move for family support, everyone deals with these things differently and if they are struggling as a family in Melbourne, surely you'd want to help a player out in these circumstances.

But he also said before the trade period that he was happy to stay at Carlton.

Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Grazz on October 20, 2016, 03:38:54 PM
Quote from: Jay on October 20, 2016, 03:04:28 PM
Enjoy bottom 4 until Softie is an old man, Blues!

We put all our hopes into the Softie deal, and are now left with donuts, and lost Lyons! What a disaster.

We walked in this morning saying if it doesn't come off we'll stick with the plan of drafting what we need.
Not that disappointed tbh that we didn't get it done, we didn't get robbed by the Blues.
Lyons is another story though, feel we got robbed there, wtf.

Quote from: elephants on October 20, 2016, 03:34:27 PM
Quote from: TomK on October 20, 2016, 03:31:01 PM
Quote from: AaronKirk on October 20, 2016, 03:20:18 PM
Quote from: Jay on October 20, 2016, 03:17:47 PM
Quote from: TomK on October 20, 2016, 03:15:10 PM
Go flower yourself SOS you un-empathetic arrogant flog.

What a nightmare.
I'm still holding out hope that this is just a nightmare and we'll have either Lyons or Softie when I wake up  :-\

If literally all we did this trade period was re-sign Jarryd Lyons I'd be quite happy. But to lose him for nothing and not get anyone else cannot be true.

You lost Lyons for market value? Cannot complain

Softie has a 3 year contract. You needed to offer more. Don't whinge at Carlton. Whinge at your own people for not getting the deal done.
You and I have no idea what we offered, his manger said we upped our offer today, he thought it was fair, plenty of people not Crows supporters said pick 13 should be enough. I'm glad we didn't fold and give into Carltons demands but it's pretty obvious they were unreasonable. I look forward to them enjoying an unhappy player.

Fairly sure Softie will be fine playing out his career at Carlton. He said he'd prefer a move home but would respect his contract. I'm with AK, the onus is on the Crows to satisfy Carlton's demands!

No premiership for Adelaide now, that final puzzle piece is missing!

Wasn't the final puzzle piece, never was. Make us better yes but not the final piece mate.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: shaker on October 20, 2016, 03:39:03 PM
Future headline Gibbs wants time away from the game due to personal reasons
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: lachie_001 on October 20, 2016, 03:39:49 PM
I'm just mad we traded Lyons!!!
Surely they could have waiting for Gibbs and then if that fell through, up'd Lyons offer.

Gibbs will be furious, SOS is pretty unreasonable, but guess what Carlton, we'll come back and get him next year for less :)
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: iZander on October 20, 2016, 03:41:05 PM
Quote from: TomK on October 20, 2016, 03:35:42 PM
Quote from: AaronKirk on October 20, 2016, 03:28:34 PM
Quote from: PowerBug on October 20, 2016, 03:22:47 PM
Quote from: AaronKirk on October 20, 2016, 03:20:18 PM
Softie has a 3 year contract. You needed to offer more. Don't whinge at Carlton. Whinge at your own people for not getting the deal done.
Crows fans tho AK, probably the umpires fault :P
True.

If Softie wanted to leave why did he sign such a long contract a few years ago?

As he is contracted for 3 more years Adelaide needed to pay above market value to get him. They obviously didn't do that.

There is no empathy in the business community when people have signed contracts so why should there be any empathy from Carlton or anyone in the football community.

Good on them for wanting the best deal possible for a guy they did not want to lose.
He wanted to leave because they had a kid  and wanted to move for family support, everyone deals with these things differently and if they are struggling as a family in Melbourne, surely you'd want to help a player out in these circumstances.
Yeah I agree, Adelaide were quite inconsiderate
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: elephants on October 20, 2016, 03:41:39 PM
Quote from: shaker on October 20, 2016, 03:39:03 PM
Future headline Softie wants time away from the game due to personal reasons

He's happy to stay at Carlton? He made that clear before the trade period.

This is being blown way out of proportion haha.

Quote from: lachie_001 on October 20, 2016, 03:39:49 PM
I'm just mad we traded Lyons!!!
Surely they could have waiting for Softie and then if that fell through, up'd Lyons offer.

Softie will be furious, SOS is pretty unreasonable, but guess what Carlton, we'll come back and get him next year for less :)

I agree Lyons went for way unders, but SOS is just doing his job. Gibbs would have preferred a move home but it was never a move home or I'm playing VFL... He'll play for the Blues for next year, and the same rigmarole will kick of this time next season where the Crows will still not satisfy the Blues demands :P
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: GoLions on October 20, 2016, 03:41:58 PM
Quote from: lachie_001 on October 20, 2016, 03:39:49 PM
Softie will be furious, SOS is pretty unreasonable, but guess what Carlton, we'll come back and get him next year for less :)
He'll still have another 2 years, and I'd wager they'd be asking for your first rounder again anyway (which won't be 18 ;))
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Grazz on October 20, 2016, 03:42:24 PM
Quote from: iZander on October 20, 2016, 03:41:05 PM
Quote from: TomK on October 20, 2016, 03:35:42 PM
Quote from: AaronKirk on October 20, 2016, 03:28:34 PM
Quote from: PowerBug on October 20, 2016, 03:22:47 PM
Quote from: AaronKirk on October 20, 2016, 03:20:18 PM
Softie has a 3 year contract. You needed to offer more. Don't whinge at Carlton. Whinge at your own people for not getting the deal done.
Crows fans tho AK, probably the umpires fault :P
True.

If Softie wanted to leave why did he sign such a long contract a few years ago?

As he is contracted for 3 more years Adelaide needed to pay above market value to get him. They obviously didn't do that.

There is no empathy in the business community when people have signed contracts so why should there be any empathy from Carlton or anyone in the football community.

Good on them for wanting the best deal possible for a guy they did not want to lose.
He wanted to leave because they had a kid  and wanted to move for family support, everyone deals with these things differently and if they are struggling as a family in Melbourne, surely you'd want to help a player out in these circumstances.
Yeah I agree, Adelaide were quite inconsiderate

How do you figure that ?
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: meow meow on October 20, 2016, 03:42:41 PM
Crazy trade period. Some teams have clearly flowered up.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: TomK on October 20, 2016, 03:43:09 PM
Quote from: iZander on October 20, 2016, 03:41:05 PM
Quote from: TomK on October 20, 2016, 03:35:42 PM
Quote from: AaronKirk on October 20, 2016, 03:28:34 PM
Quote from: PowerBug on October 20, 2016, 03:22:47 PM
Quote from: AaronKirk on October 20, 2016, 03:20:18 PM
Softie has a 3 year contract. You needed to offer more. Don't whinge at Carlton. Whinge at your own people for not getting the deal done.
Crows fans tho AK, probably the umpires fault :P
True.

If Softie wanted to leave why did he sign such a long contract a few years ago?

As he is contracted for 3 more years Adelaide needed to pay above market value to get him. They obviously didn't do that.

There is no empathy in the business community when people have signed contracts so why should there be any empathy from Carlton or anyone in the football community.

Good on them for wanting the best deal possible for a guy they did not want to lose.
He wanted to leave because they had a kid  and wanted to move for family support, everyone deals with these things differently and if they are struggling as a family in Melbourne, surely you'd want to help a player out in these circumstances.
Yeah I agree, Adelaide were quite inconsiderate
Seriously? Because we weren't giving into unreasonable demands?
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Ricochet on October 20, 2016, 03:43:37 PM
Quote from: lachie_001 on October 20, 2016, 03:39:49 PM
I'm just mad we traded Lyons!!!
Surely they could have waiting for Softie and then if that fell through, up'd Lyons offer.

Softie will be furious, SOS is pretty unreasonable, but guess what Carlton, we'll come back and get him next year for less :)
How is SOS unreasonable. Gibbs signed a massive contract. That's on him, not the club
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Grazz on October 20, 2016, 03:44:45 PM
Quote from: elephants on October 20, 2016, 03:41:39 PM
Quote from: shaker on October 20, 2016, 03:39:03 PM
Future headline Softie wants time away from the game due to personal reasons

He's happy to stay at Carlton? He made that clear before the trade period.

This is being blown way out of proportion haha.

Quote from: lachie_001 on October 20, 2016, 03:39:49 PM
I'm just mad we traded Lyons!!!
Surely they could have waiting for Softie and then if that fell through, up'd Lyons offer.

Softie will be furious, SOS is pretty unreasonable, but guess what Carlton, we'll come back and get him next year for less :)

I agree Lyons went for way unders, but SOS is just doing his job. Softie would have preferred a move home but it was never a move home or I'm playing VFL... He'll play for the Blues for next year, and the same rigmarole will kick of this time next season where the Crows will still not be ripped off by the Blues demands :P

I'm laughing at some of these comments, seriously.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Jay on October 20, 2016, 03:45:48 PM
Quote from: AaronKirk on October 20, 2016, 03:20:18 PM
Quote from: Jay on October 20, 2016, 03:17:47 PM
Quote from: TomK on October 20, 2016, 03:15:10 PM
Go flower yourself SOS you un-empathetic arrogant flog.

What a nightmare.
I'm still holding out hope that this is just a nightmare and we'll have either Lyons or Softie when I wake up  :-\

If literally all we did this trade period was re-sign Jarryd Lyons I'd be quite happy. But to lose him for nothing and not get anyone else cannot be true.

You lost Lyons for market value? Cannot complain

Softie has a 3 year contract. You needed to offer more. Don't whinge at Carlton. Whinge at your own people for not getting the deal done.
Hahahah that was not market value for Lyons. 24 year old who champion data rank above Gibbs. 22 disposals a game, 4 clearances, 4 I50s, 5 tackles. The guy played 20 games for an elite team, he ranked 6th in disposals, 8th in goals, 5th in contested possessions, 5th in clearances, 4th in tackles and 6th in goal assists. If he played in Victoria he'd be seen on a Luke Dahlhaus level, or a slightly better Dom Tyson. Sick of the interstate clubs being screwed over.

When did I whinge about Carlton? Gibbs signed a 5 year deal, he can stick it out. And frankly I don't blame us for not selling the farm for him, pick 13 is slightly unders but not too far off. Two first rounds picks and SOS is just dreaming.

Just frustrating that all we did was lose Lyons for no reason. Especially considering we could have easily re-signed him..
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Grazz on October 20, 2016, 03:46:48 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on October 20, 2016, 03:43:37 PM
Quote from: lachie_001 on October 20, 2016, 03:39:49 PM
I'm just mad we traded Lyons!!!
Surely they could have waiting for Softie and then if that fell through, up'd Lyons offer.

Softie will be furious, SOS is pretty unreasonable, but guess what Carlton, we'll come back and get him next year for less :)
How is SOS unreasonable. Softie signed a massive contract. That's on him, not the club

True this, we weren't prepared to sell the farm to get him which is our prerogative. Shake hands and go home.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: elephants on October 20, 2016, 03:46:59 PM
Hahaha good hearty discussion filled with tinted sunglasses and blatant bias. Naturally, with a sprinkle of not-being-able-to-see-things-from-the-opposition-point-of-view :P
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Ricochet on October 20, 2016, 03:48:59 PM
Quote from: Jay on October 20, 2016, 03:45:48 PM
Quote from: AaronKirk on October 20, 2016, 03:20:18 PM
Quote from: Jay on October 20, 2016, 03:17:47 PM
Quote from: TomK on October 20, 2016, 03:15:10 PM
Go flower yourself SOS you un-empathetic arrogant flog.

What a nightmare.
I'm still holding out hope that this is just a nightmare and we'll have either Lyons or Softie when I wake up  :-\

If literally all we did this trade period was re-sign Jarryd Lyons I'd be quite happy. But to lose him for nothing and not get anyone else cannot be true.

You lost Lyons for market value? Cannot complain

Softie has a 3 year contract. You needed to offer more. Don't whinge at Carlton. Whinge at your own people for not getting the deal done.
Hahahah that was not market value for Lyons. 24 year old who champion data rank above Softie. 22 disposals a game, 4 clearances, 4 I50s, 5 tackles. The guy played 20 games for an elite team, he ranked 6th in disposals, 8th in goals, 5th in contested possessions, 5th in clearances, 4th in tackles and 6th in goal assists. If he played in Victoria he'd be seen on a Luke Dahlhaus level, or a slightly better Dom Tyson. Sick of the interstate clubs being screwed over.

When did I whinge about Carlton? Softie signed a 5 year deal, he can stick it out. And frankly I don't blame us for not selling the farm for him, pick 13 is slightly unders but not too far off. Two first rounds picks and SOS is just dreaming.

Just frustrating that all we did was lose Lyons for no reason. Especially considering we could have easily re-signed him..
I thought this was strange as well Jay. Why did the club wait so bloody long to try and re-sign him (if at all). They could have done it before the trade period. Especially after such a break out year.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Grazz on October 20, 2016, 03:49:40 PM
Quote from: Jay on October 20, 2016, 03:45:48 PM
Quote from: AaronKirk on October 20, 2016, 03:20:18 PM
Quote from: Jay on October 20, 2016, 03:17:47 PM
Quote from: TomK on October 20, 2016, 03:15:10 PM
Go flower yourself SOS you un-empathetic arrogant flog.

What a nightmare.
I'm still holding out hope that this is just a nightmare and we'll have either Lyons or Softie when I wake up  :-\

If literally all we did this trade period was re-sign Jarryd Lyons I'd be quite happy. But to lose him for nothing and not get anyone else cannot be true.

You lost Lyons for market value? Cannot complain

Softie has a 3 year contract. You needed to offer more. Don't whinge at Carlton. Whinge at your own people for not getting the deal done.
Hahahah that was not market value for Lyons. 24 year old who champion data rank above Softie. 22 disposals a game, 4 clearances, 4 I50s, 5 tackles. The guy played 20 games for an elite team, he ranked 6th in disposals, 8th in goals, 5th in contested possessions, 5th in clearances, 4th in tackles and 6th in goal assists. If he played in Victoria he'd be seen on a Luke Dahlhaus level, or a slightly better Dom Tyson. Sick of the interstate clubs being screwed over.

When did I whinge about Carlton? Softie signed a 5 year deal, he can stick it out. And frankly I don't blame us for not selling the farm for him, pick 13 is slightly unders but not too far off. Two first rounds picks and SOS is just dreaming.

Just frustrating that all we did was lose Lyons for no reason. Especially considering we could have easily re-signed him..

Yep we flowered up with Lyons no denying that.  :(
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: meow meow on October 20, 2016, 03:55:10 PM
Unreasonable? Yeah umm the most unreasonable thing I've heard all trade period is comparing Lyons to Dahlhaus and rating them equally.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: RaisyDaisy on October 20, 2016, 03:55:39 PM
Not a great trade period for Adelaide at all

Clearly put all their eggs in one basket, and lost a good player too

Surprised that all it took for JOM was Pick 10 and a 2nd rounder in the end. Would have thought for sure at least one player from Hawks would have been sent up
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: AaronKirk on October 20, 2016, 04:00:15 PM
According to Sam Edmund on twitter Carlton wanted 2 first round picks for Gibbs.

Whilst that is overs he has a 3 year contract and Carlton did not want to lose him.

Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: elephants on October 20, 2016, 04:01:22 PM
Quote from: AaronKirk on October 20, 2016, 04:00:15 PM
According to Sam Edmund on twitter Carlton wanted 2 first round picks for Softie.

Whilst that is overs he has a 3 year contract and Carlton did not want to lose him.

Yeah pretty simply a case of "lets demand two firsts and if they're silly enough to do it we'll take it and if not we'll keep Gibbs."

Good call
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: jvalles69 on October 20, 2016, 04:05:57 PM
Quote from: Grazz on October 20, 2016, 03:49:40 PM
Quote from: Jay on October 20, 2016, 03:45:48 PM
Quote from: AaronKirk on October 20, 2016, 03:20:18 PM
Quote from: Jay on October 20, 2016, 03:17:47 PM
Quote from: TomK on October 20, 2016, 03:15:10 PM
Go flower yourself SOS you un-empathetic arrogant flog.

What a nightmare.
I'm still holding out hope that this is just a nightmare and we'll have either Lyons or Softie when I wake up  :-\

If literally all we did this trade period was re-sign Jarryd Lyons I'd be quite happy. But to lose him for nothing and not get anyone else cannot be true.

You lost Lyons for market value? Cannot complain

Softie has a 3 year contract. You needed to offer more. Don't whinge at Carlton. Whinge at your own people for not getting the deal done.
Hahahah that was not market value for Lyons. 24 year old who champion data rank above Softie. 22 disposals a game, 4 clearances, 4 I50s, 5 tackles. The guy played 20 games for an elite team, he ranked 6th in disposals, 8th in goals, 5th in contested possessions, 5th in clearances, 4th in tackles and 6th in goal assists. If he played in Victoria he'd be seen on a Luke Dahlhaus level, or a slightly better Dom Tyson. Sick of the interstate clubs being screwed over.

When did I whinge about Carlton? Softie signed a 5 year deal, he can stick it out. And frankly I don't blame us for not selling the farm for him, pick 13 is slightly unders but not too far off. Two first rounds picks and SOS is just dreaming.

Just frustrating that all we did was lose Lyons for no reason. Especially considering we could have easily re-signed him..

Yep we flowered up with Lyons no denying that.  :(

Wouldn't be surprised if he left based on principal regardless of what they eventually paid him.  Might've thought he was being disrespected due to be tossed around the trade rumour mill as well as telling him they're holding off on signing him due to the possibilty of this Gibbs guy taking his spot.  That'd be enough to make a lot of people leave their current jobs.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Nige on October 20, 2016, 04:09:32 PM
Quote from: elephants on October 20, 2016, 04:01:22 PM
Quote from: AaronKirk on October 20, 2016, 04:00:15 PM
According to Sam Edmund on twitter Carlton wanted 2 first round picks for Softie.

Whilst that is overs he has a 3 year contract and Carlton did not want to lose him.

Yeah pretty simply a case of "lets demand two firsts and if they're silly enough to do it we'll take it and if not we'll keep Softie."

Good call
Pretty well summarised.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Rusty00 on October 20, 2016, 04:13:54 PM
Quote from: Nige on October 20, 2016, 04:09:32 PM
Quote from: elephants on October 20, 2016, 04:01:22 PM
Quote from: AaronKirk on October 20, 2016, 04:00:15 PM
According to Sam Edmund on twitter Carlton wanted 2 first round picks for Softie.

Whilst that is overs he has a 3 year contract and Carlton did not want to lose him.

Yeah pretty simply a case of "lets demand two firsts and if they're silly enough to do it we'll take it and if not we'll keep Softie."

Good call
Pretty well summarised.
/close thread
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Grazz on October 20, 2016, 04:22:21 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on October 20, 2016, 03:55:39 PM
Not a great trade period for Adelaide at all

Clearly put all their eggs in one basket, and lost a good player too

Surprised that all it took for JOM was Pick 10 and a 2nd rounder in the end. Would have thought for sure at least one player from Hawks would have been sent up

That's no correct RD all our eggs weren't in the one basket, our plan was to always take 13 to the draft until Gibbs stated he wanted a trade, we had a crack and it didn't pan out.
Lyons was a flower up, no argument there.

Seems outsiders are dirtier about us not getting Gibbs than we are, don't project that on us that's your issue.
We're content with what went down and moving on thanks.

Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: elephants on October 20, 2016, 04:30:38 PM
Quote from: Grazz on October 20, 2016, 04:22:21 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on October 20, 2016, 03:55:39 PM
Not a great trade period for Adelaide at all

Clearly put all their eggs in one basket, and lost a good player too

Surprised that all it took for JOM was Pick 10 and a 2nd rounder in the end. Would have thought for sure at least one player from Hawks would have been sent up

That's no correct RD all our eggs weren't in the one basket, our plan was to always take 13 to the draft until Softie stated he wanted a trade, we had a crack and it didn't pan out.
Lyons was a flower up, no argument there.

Seems outsiders are dirtier about us not getting Softie than we are, don't project that on us that's your issue.
We're content with what went down and moving on thanks.

That might be your personal view Grazz, but any Adelaide fan that blames Carlton for the proceedings is well off the mark and directly contradicting your statement :P
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Levi434 on October 20, 2016, 04:32:03 PM
GC will win the Premiership within 3 years.

Not my words.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Grazz on October 20, 2016, 04:34:27 PM
Quote from: elephants on October 20, 2016, 04:30:38 PM
Quote from: Grazz on October 20, 2016, 04:22:21 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on October 20, 2016, 03:55:39 PM
Not a great trade period for Adelaide at all

Clearly put all their eggs in one basket, and lost a good player too

Surprised that all it took for JOM was Pick 10 and a 2nd rounder in the end. Would have thought for sure at least one player from Hawks would have been sent up

That's no correct RD all our eggs weren't in the one basket, our plan was to always take 13 to the draft until Softie stated he wanted a trade, we had a crack and it didn't pan out.
Lyons was a flower up, no argument there.

Seems outsiders are dirtier about us not getting Softie than we are, don't project that on us that's your issue.
We're content with what went down and moving on thanks.

That might be your personal view Grazz, but any Adelaide fan that blames Carlton for the proceedings is well off the mark and directly contradicting your statement :P

Don't think anyone of us have done that tbh yet and yes 100% my view.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: lachie_001 on October 20, 2016, 04:35:39 PM
As it sits now, we went into the trade period needing midfield depth and we came out with less depth. So we definetely flowered up.

But on the bright side, maybe CEY, Grigg, Wigg, Knight can all get a run now. We also get to keep pick 13 which I'm happy about.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: powersuperkents on October 20, 2016, 04:36:28 PM
Quote from: elephants on October 20, 2016, 04:30:38 PM
Quote from: Grazz on October 20, 2016, 04:22:21 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on October 20, 2016, 03:55:39 PM
Not a great trade period for Adelaide at all

Clearly put all their eggs in one basket, and lost a good player too

Surprised that all it took for JOM was Pick 10 and a 2nd rounder in the end. Would have thought for sure at least one player from Hawks would have been sent up

That's no correct RD all our eggs weren't in the one basket, our plan was to always take 13 to the draft until Softie stated he wanted a trade, we had a crack and it didn't pan out.
Lyons was a flower up, no argument there.

Seems outsiders are dirtier about us not getting Softie than we are, don't project that on us that's your issue.
We're content with what went down and moving on thanks.

That might be your personal view Grazz, but any Adelaide fan that blames Carlton for the proceedings is well off the mark and directly contradicting your statement :P
Carlton had all the leverage

So the onus was on the Crows to play ball and impress Carlton with the deal...

Not the other way around
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: RaisyDaisy on October 20, 2016, 04:40:11 PM
Not sure how you're content with losing Lyons and gaining nothing

Yes you have Pick 13, but I think it's widely acknowledged (and by Crows supporters too) that another gun mid is exactly what you needed

I'm not privy to what conversations were had, but I can't see how keeping a pick you we're already given and losing a good kid can be considered a good result

Players of Softie quality don't come knocking on your door often, especially when you're in the window you're in.

Carlton had every right to charge overs due to his contract, and I think Adelaide should have given what they asked

Say you lose your next two years first round picks - you're list is primed to challenge for the cup - who cares about 2 kids who could actually turn into nothing. You've got great talent like CEY and Wigg who can't get a game so young talent shouldn't be a priority over winning a cup atm. Softie is proven

Anyway, not having a crack at the supporters lol you guys don't have a say on how the club trades - just surprised to see they let Bryce slip and didn't look to bring in any other mids
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Rusty00 on October 20, 2016, 04:40:15 PM
Quote from: powersuperkents on October 20, 2016, 04:36:28 PM
Quote from: elephants on October 20, 2016, 04:30:38 PM
Quote from: Grazz on October 20, 2016, 04:22:21 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on October 20, 2016, 03:55:39 PM
Not a great trade period for Adelaide at all

Clearly put all their eggs in one basket, and lost a good player too

Surprised that all it took for JOM was Pick 10 and a 2nd rounder in the end. Would have thought for sure at least one player from Hawks would have been sent up

That's no correct RD all our eggs weren't in the one basket, our plan was to always take 13 to the draft until Softie stated he wanted a trade, we had a crack and it didn't pan out.
Lyons was a flower up, no argument there.

Seems outsiders are dirtier about us not getting Softie than we are, don't project that on us that's your issue.
We're content with what went down and moving on thanks.

That might be your personal view Grazz, but any Adelaide fan that blames Carlton for the proceedings is well off the mark and directly contradicting your statement :P
Carlton had all the leverage

So the onus was on the Crows to play ball and impress Carlton with the deal...

Not the other way around
Not sure anyone is arguing that point ;)
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Purple 77 on October 20, 2016, 04:41:18 PM
So, it is true that Hawks gave up 48, 66 & 70 for Carlton's 2017 second rounder (say Pick 25).

Surely... SURELY, an IOU was involved in this trade. I just can't understand it, at all.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: meow meow on October 20, 2016, 04:44:34 PM
Quote from: Purple 77 on October 20, 2016, 04:41:18 PM
So, it is true that Hawks gave up 48, 66 & 70 for Carlton's 2017 second rounder (say Pick 25).

Surely... SURELY, an IOU was involved in this trade. I just can't understand it, at all.

Blues are going to win the flag, then add a couple of compo picks and we're looking at pick 40ish. Not so bad...

Or in reality somewhere around the pick 20 mark. flowering awful.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: meow meow on October 20, 2016, 04:48:21 PM
Quote from: meow meow on October 20, 2016, 04:44:34 PM
Quote from: Purple 77 on October 20, 2016, 04:41:18 PM
So, it is true that Hawks gave up 48, 66 & 70 for Carlton's 2017 second rounder (say Pick 25).

Surely... SURELY, an IOU was involved in this trade. I just can't understand it, at all.

Blues are going to win the flag, then add a couple of compo picks and we're looking at pick 40ish. Not so bad...

Or in reality somewhere around the pick 20 mark. flowering awful.

Hang on, the Blue's 2nd rounder went to Geelong in the Tuohy trade. Must be another team's 2nd round pick...

GWS's 2nd rounder next year (Marchbank trade)

Makes sense since their pick will be up towards 40 anyway.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Grazz on October 20, 2016, 04:49:35 PM
SOS's demands were unreasonable, if we bit and jumped at it no doubt the Blues come out the winner. SoS had no intention of letting him go unless we fell for what he was asking for, we didn't .
No problem that is 100% his right to do that as he did have all the leverage they have that player contracted to the club. I'm not crying foul it all played out just as I expected, was never going to happen unless SoS was prepared to be more reasonable or we were prepared to pay way overs which we weren't, end of story. I don't see what the issue is.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Grazz on October 20, 2016, 04:52:30 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on October 20, 2016, 04:40:11 PM
Not sure how you're content with losing Lyons and gaining nothing

Yes you have Pick 13, but I think it's widely acknowledged (and by Crows supporters too) that another gun mid is exactly what you needed

I'm not privy to what conversations were had, but I can't see how keeping a pick you we're already given and losing a good kid can be considered a good result

Players of Softie quality don't come knocking on your door often, especially when you're in the window you're in.

Carlton had every right to charge overs due to his contract, and I think Adelaide should have given what they asked

Say you lose your next two years first round picks - you're list is primed to challenge for the cup - who cares about 2 kids who could actually turn into nothing. You've got great talent like CEY and Wigg who can't get a game so young talent shouldn't be a priority over winning a cup atm. Softie is proven

Anyway, not having a crack at the supporters lol you guys don't have a say on how the club trades - just surprised to see they let Bryce slip and didn't look to bring in any other mids

Content with what happened regarding Gibbs mate, have stated already I am not happy with what happened regarding Lyons deal. That was a flower up.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Holz on October 20, 2016, 04:54:41 PM
Quote from: Grazz on October 20, 2016, 04:49:35 PM
SOS's demands were unreasonable, if we bit and jumped at it no doubt the Blues come out the winner. SoS had no intention of letting him go unless we fell for what he was asking for, we didn't .
No problem that is 100% his right to do that as he did have all the leverage they have that player contracted to the club. I'm not crying foul it all played out just as I expected, was never going to happen unless SoS was prepared to be more reasonable or we were prepared to pay way overs which we weren't, end of story. I don't see what the issue is.

the simple thing is he could have given him at market value given his player wanted to go home. Going for overs really only hurts gibbs and realistically they dont have the list to compete so when they are primed with weits cripps docherty all in their prime gibbs will be gone.

Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: SydneyRox on October 20, 2016, 04:56:07 PM
So who won trade week??

West Coast? Giants?

Who lost

Hawks? Port?

Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: meow meow on October 20, 2016, 04:56:32 PM
Quote from: meow meow on October 20, 2016, 04:48:21 PM
Quote from: meow meow on October 20, 2016, 04:44:34 PM
Quote from: Purple 77 on October 20, 2016, 04:41:18 PM
So, it is true that Hawks gave up 48, 66 & 70 for Carlton's 2017 second rounder (say Pick 25).

Surely... SURELY, an IOU was involved in this trade. I just can't understand it, at all.

Blues are going to win the flag, then add a couple of compo picks and we're looking at pick 40ish. Not so bad...

Or in reality somewhere around the pick 20 mark. flowering awful.

Hang on, the Blue's 2nd rounder went to Geelong in the Tuohy trade. Must be another team's 2nd round pick...

GWS's 2nd rounder next year (Marchbank trade)

Makes sense since their pick will be up towards 40 anyway.

Nope, looking at it again it appears that the Blues have GWS's 2nd rounder, and Hawthorn do in fact have Carlton's 2nd rounder. Surely they meant to send the GWS 2nd to the Hawks instead? Haha what a flower up if true! I think the AFL site has screwed up instead of the Blues.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: meow meow on October 20, 2016, 04:58:18 PM
Quote from: SydneyRox on October 20, 2016, 04:56:07 PM
So who won trade week??

West Coast? Giants?

Who lost

Hawks? Port?

West Coast got Sammy and Vardy for a 5th round pick. Can't beat that.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Holz on October 20, 2016, 05:05:26 PM
if JOM stays healthy then Hawks won this trade period easy.

Mitchell Lewis basically i take it as retired young.

Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: elephants on October 20, 2016, 05:08:16 PM
Yep happy with the Weagles effort. Wouldn't be unhappy if I was a Freo or Giants fan either.

Lol'd when the Eagles weren't even an option on FoxSports poll for who won trade period ::)
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: jvalles69 on October 20, 2016, 05:17:03 PM
Winners
Hawks
Dees
Dockers
Eagles
Giants
Saints
Suns (in terms of rebuild)

Losers
Crows
Power
Lions

Not sure yet
Swans
Dogs
Tigers
Cats
Roos
Blues
Bombers
Pies


Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: elephants on October 20, 2016, 05:18:52 PM
Definitely disagree with anyone that says the Hawks lose!
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: iZander on October 20, 2016, 05:19:22 PM
Yeah Dees have to be up there in the winners, bought in Lewis and Hibbo (and Mckenna)
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Purple 77 on October 20, 2016, 05:20:39 PM
I'm pretty happy as a Melb fan.

We had Pick 29, 48, 66, 84, Dunn

And turned it into

Lewis, Hibberd, McKenna Pick 47, Pick 69

With Smells Ham to come in next year too, that's a big injection of experience  :D
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Bill Manspeaker on October 20, 2016, 05:21:28 PM
Jack Steele, Nathan Brown, Koby Stevens

23, 36, 61

2 first rounders next year

all without trading a player out

flowerin stoked with the trade period!
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: SydneyRox on October 20, 2016, 05:26:09 PM
Quote from: elephants on October 20, 2016, 05:18:52 PM
Definitely disagree with anyone that says the Hawks lose!

They gave up a lot to get what came in the door. And they did some damage to players still there as well I reckon.

Handled Lewis and JOM trades really badly.

Havent got a pick in 2016 until #88

May not have lost due to getting JOM and Mitchell, but wouldnt call them winners
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: elephants on October 20, 2016, 05:28:06 PM
Quote from: SydneyRox on October 20, 2016, 05:26:09 PM
Quote from: elephants on October 20, 2016, 05:18:52 PM
Definitely disagree with anyone that says the Hawks lose!

They gave up a lot to get what came in the door. And they did some damage to players still there as well I reckon.

Handled Lewis and JOM trades really badly.

Havent got a pick in 2016 until #88

May not have lost due to getting JOM and Mitchell, but wouldnt call them winners

JOM and Mitchell have elite potential though imo, and Smitch was in his final year regardless. Lewis went real cheap, but lets be honest.. Fantasy aside he had some pretty poor games of footy last season, on the decline imo.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Holz on October 20, 2016, 05:31:18 PM
Quote from: elephants on October 20, 2016, 05:08:16 PM
Yep happy with the Weagles effort. Wouldn't be unhappy if I was a Freo or Giants fan either.

Lol'd when the Eagles weren't even an option on FoxSports poll for who won trade period ::)

did you really do that great?

Vardy does have talent but can never stay healthy.

Mitchell probably only around for 1 year and i doubt you get a flag from it.

you didnt give much but you didnt really gain anything long term that helps you.

Freo on the over hand killed it

they moved down from 3 to 7 and will get the guy they wanted anyway (English) then basically gave up 2 early 2nd rounders and some late picks to gain Cam Mcarthy, Hill, Kersten and got 2 later 2nd rounders back.



Cam Mcarthy + 2 later 2nd rounder + Hill + Kersten

2 early 2nd rounder
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: elephants on October 20, 2016, 05:35:12 PM
Quote from: Holz on October 20, 2016, 05:31:18 PM
Quote from: elephants on October 20, 2016, 05:08:16 PM
Yep happy with the Weagles effort. Wouldn't be unhappy if I was a Freo or Giants fan either.

Lol'd when the Eagles weren't even an option on FoxSports poll for who won trade period ::)

did you really do that great?

Vardy does have talent but can never stay healthy.

Mitchell probably only around for 1 year and i doubt you get a flag from it.

Well we finished fourth on points, 6th on percentage so we won enough games for top 4, just not in the manner we would have liked.

Smitch is an elite user, something we do lack through the midfield at this time so he is a massive bonus for pick 88.

We need another ruck, Vardy has plenty of talent and at 25 is hitting his prime. Just needs to keep his body together. Heaps of upside for little cost.

Didn't land the big fish we probably hoped for, but Sammy Mitchell is a masssive win.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: jvalles69 on October 20, 2016, 05:38:46 PM
Quote from: Holz on October 20, 2016, 05:31:18 PM
Quote from: elephants on October 20, 2016, 05:08:16 PM
Yep happy with the Weagles effort. Wouldn't be unhappy if I was a Freo or Giants fan either.

Lol'd when the Eagles weren't even an option on FoxSports poll for who won trade period ::)

did you really do that great?

Vardy does have talent but can never stay healthy.

Mitchell probably only around for 1 year and i doubt you get a flag from it.

you didnt give much but you didnt really gain anything long term that helps you.

Freo on the over hand killed it

they moved down from 3 to 7 and will get the guy they wanted anyway (English) then basically gave up 2 early 2nd rounders and some late picks to gain Cam Mcarthy, Hill, Kersten and got 2 later 2nd rounders back.



Cam Mcarthy + 2 later 2nd rounder + Hill + Kersten

2 early 2nd rounder

The thing is we didn't really need to do much, we didn't lose any of our big names, we got an elite super experienced player to help progress our younger guys and we got the backup ruckman we were looking for not named Petrie.  We've never been massive players with trades and recruiting players, we tend to develop our own and draft really well.  So many of our guys are still improving McGovern, Barass, Duggan, Sheed, Darling heck even Gaff, Shuey and Yeo prob haven't reached their potential.  We're fine and happy to slide under the radar.  ;)
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Scrads on October 20, 2016, 05:41:35 PM
Saints were definitely big winners this trade period. I'm not saying we were big winners as well but I don't think bringing in Tom Mitchell and O'Meara can in any way be a losing trade period. As people have said, Sam Mitchell and Lewis were retirements waiting to happen so losing them is really no different than for example Geelong losing Bartel and Enright.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: valkorum on October 20, 2016, 05:49:02 PM
Quote from: Holz on October 20, 2016, 05:31:18 PM
Quote from: elephants on October 20, 2016, 05:08:16 PM
Yep happy with the Weagles effort. Wouldn't be unhappy if I was a Freo or Giants fan either.

Lol'd when the Eagles weren't even an option on FoxSports poll for who won trade period ::)

did you really do that great?

Vardy does have talent but can never stay healthy.

Mitchell probably only around for 1 year and i doubt you get a flag from it.

you didnt give much but you didnt really gain anything long term that helps you.

Freo on the over hand killed it

they moved down from 3 to 7 and will get the guy they wanted anyway (English) then basically gave up 2 early 2nd rounders and some late picks to gain Cam Mcarthy, Hill, Kersten and got 2 later 2nd rounders back.



Cam Mcarthy + 2 later 2nd rounder + Hill + Kersten

2 early 2nd rounder

You forgot that we got Joel Hamling as well
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: PowerBug on October 20, 2016, 05:52:51 PM
Saints, Freo, Melbourne my top 3 from the period.

Power, Crows in my bottom 2. Undo the trades they did make I think both clubs would've been happier.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: powersuperkents on October 20, 2016, 05:53:39 PM
Quote from: Scrads on October 20, 2016, 05:41:35 PM
Saints were definitely big winners this trade period. I'm not saying we were big winners as well but I don't think bringing in Tom Mitchell and O'Meara can in any way be a losing trade period. As people have said, Sam Mitchell and Lewis were retirements waiting to happen so losing them is really no different than for example Geelong losing Bartel and Enright.
+1

Saints and Demons will definitely be contenders for the 8 next season.

I think Lids should secure the Giants maiden flag though - bleed a lot of talent, as always, but it doesn't make any difference to them - esp. since they managed to keep Lobb
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: GoLions on October 20, 2016, 05:53:57 PM
Saints, Dees, Dockers, Giants would be my top 4 winners for the trade period

Quote from: jvalles69 on October 20, 2016, 05:17:03 PM
Losers
Crows
Power
Lions
I wouldn't say we lost anything. Odds are we basically got a top 10 pick for Hanley which is way overs, and Frost adds a bit of experience to our backline. Apparently we weren't gonna take McGrath in the draft, so dropping from 2 to 3 is irrelevant, and we have 4 picks inside the top 22. I'm happy with what happened for us.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: SydneyRox on October 20, 2016, 05:55:28 PM
Quote from: Scrads on October 20, 2016, 05:41:35 PM
Saints were definitely big winners this trade period. I'm not saying we were big winners as well but I don't think bringing in Tom Mitchell and O'Meara can in any way be a losing trade period. As people have said, Sam Mitchell and Lewis were retirements waiting to happen so losing them is really no different than for example Geelong losing Bartel and Enright.

that's not really right. Both Mitchell and Lewis were still contracted so were 100% playing next year, they came 1st and 2nd in the B&F and have both signed multi year deals.

Bartel and Enright may have wanted to play next year but were never a realistic chance.

Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: powersuperkents on October 20, 2016, 05:56:07 PM
Quote from: PowerBug on October 20, 2016, 05:52:51 PM
Saints, Freo, Melbourne my top 3 from the period.

Power, Crows in my bottom 2. Undo the trades they did make I think both clubs would've been happier.
I'm not going to disagree

I think we brought it upon ourselves when we shopped Hammer & Lobbe around - the fact we still have them and didn't gain a top 10 pick set us up to be perceived poorly by itself.

I'm personally happy with the 4 picks inside the top 31 considering 3 consecutive seasons without a first rounder.

But giving up pick 9 will be criticised - esp. if we flower up the picks
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: jvalles69 on October 20, 2016, 05:59:31 PM
Quote from: valkorum on October 20, 2016, 05:49:02 PM
Quote from: Holz on October 20, 2016, 05:31:18 PM
Quote from: elephants on October 20, 2016, 05:08:16 PM
Yep happy with the Weagles effort. Wouldn't be unhappy if I was a Freo or Giants fan either.

Lol'd when the Eagles weren't even an option on FoxSports poll for who won trade period ::)

did you really do that great?

Vardy does have talent but can never stay healthy.

Mitchell probably only around for 1 year and i doubt you get a flag from it.

you didnt give much but you didnt really gain anything long term that helps you.

Freo on the over hand killed it

they moved down from 3 to 7 and will get the guy they wanted anyway (English) then basically gave up 2 early 2nd rounders and some late picks to gain Cam Mcarthy, Hill, Kersten and got 2 later 2nd rounders back.



Cam Mcarthy + 2 later 2nd rounder + Hill + Kersten

2 early 2nd rounder

You forgot that we got Joel Hamling as well

Could it be considered a loss cos you still have Ballas?  :P  Nah you guys got what you needed really, definitely should improve off that trade period and that's really what a successful trade period comes down to, well how I look it anyway.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Holz on October 20, 2016, 06:01:49 PM
Quote from: jvalles69 on October 20, 2016, 05:38:46 PM
Quote from: Holz on October 20, 2016, 05:31:18 PM
Quote from: elephants on October 20, 2016, 05:08:16 PM
Yep happy with the Weagles effort. Wouldn't be unhappy if I was a Freo or Giants fan either.

Lol'd when the Eagles weren't even an option on FoxSports poll for who won trade period ::)

did you really do that great?

Vardy does have talent but can never stay healthy.

Mitchell probably only around for 1 year and i doubt you get a flag from it.

you didnt give much but you didnt really gain anything long term that helps you.

Freo on the over hand killed it

they moved down from 3 to 7 and will get the guy they wanted anyway (English) then basically gave up 2 early 2nd rounders and some late picks to gain Cam Mcarthy, Hill, Kersten and got 2 later 2nd rounders back.



Cam Mcarthy + 2 later 2nd rounder + Hill + Kersten

2 early 2nd rounder

The thing is we didn't really need to do much, we didn't lose any of our big names, we got an elite super experienced player to help progress our younger guys and we got the backup ruckman we were looking for not named Petrie.  We've never been massive players with trades and recruiting players, we tend to develop our own and draft really well.  So many of our guys are still improving McGovern, Barass, Duggan, Sheed, Darling heck even Gaff, Shuey and Yeo prob haven't reached their potential.  We're fine and happy to slide under the radar.  ;)

Yeah but NN is a huge out and mitchell doesnt cover that.

At least Petrie will play, Vardy probably will break down on the flight over to WA.

Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Mat0369 on October 20, 2016, 06:02:24 PM
Quote from: meow meow on October 20, 2016, 04:44:34 PM
Quote from: Purple 77 on October 20, 2016, 04:41:18 PM
So, it is true that Hawks gave up 48, 66 & 70 for Carlton's 2017 second rounder (say Pick 25).

Surely... SURELY, an IOU was involved in this trade. I just can't understand it, at all.

Blues are going to win the flag, then add a couple of compo picks and we're looking at pick 40ish. Not so bad...

Or in reality somewhere around the pick 20 mark. flowering awful.

We traded our 2nd to Geelong so I'm not sure what future 2nd were using.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: jvalles69 on October 20, 2016, 06:03:21 PM
Quote from: GoLions on October 20, 2016, 05:53:57 PM
Saints, Dees, Dockers, Giants would be my top 4 winners for the trade period

Quote from: jvalles69 on October 20, 2016, 05:17:03 PM
Losers
Crows
Power
Lions
I wouldn't say we lost anything. Odds are we basically got a top 10 pick for Hanley which is way overs, and Frost adds a bit of experience to our backline. Apparently we weren't gonna take McGrath in the draft, so dropping from 2 to 3 is irrelevant, and we have 4 picks inside the top 22. I'm happy with what happened for us.

You're prob right if you look at it in terms of a minor rebuild, but I looked at it as you lost a decent player in Hanley and club's relationship with the captain is a little/lot "rocky".  Put it this way, oyu're not doing better next year than you did this year, but that's prob not the idea anyway.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Mat0369 on October 20, 2016, 06:03:45 PM
Rhys Palmer likely means the end of Dennis at Carlton!
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Money Shot on October 20, 2016, 06:03:58 PM
Teams from W.A win
Teams from Adelaide lose

I honestly don't know how to feel about Carlton!

Happy we kept Gibbs!

We wanted two first rounders and we didn't get that so we didn't trade!
We wanted Cameron, McGovern, Crouch x2 and we didn't get that so we didn't trade!

Would have had a look at someone like Luke Brown though as he is very understand
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: elephants on October 20, 2016, 06:04:30 PM
Quote from: Holz on October 20, 2016, 06:01:49 PM
Quote from: jvalles69 on October 20, 2016, 05:38:46 PM
Quote from: Holz on October 20, 2016, 05:31:18 PM
Quote from: elephants on October 20, 2016, 05:08:16 PM
Yep happy with the Weagles effort. Wouldn't be unhappy if I was a Freo or Giants fan either.

Lol'd when the Eagles weren't even an option on FoxSports poll for who won trade period ::)

did you really do that great?

Vardy does have talent but can never stay healthy.

Mitchell probably only around for 1 year and i doubt you get a flag from it.

you didnt give much but you didnt really gain anything long term that helps you.

Freo on the over hand killed it

they moved down from 3 to 7 and will get the guy they wanted anyway (English) then basically gave up 2 early 2nd rounders and some late picks to gain Cam Mcarthy, Hill, Kersten and got 2 later 2nd rounders back.



Cam Mcarthy + 2 later 2nd rounder + Hill + Kersten

2 early 2nd rounder

The thing is we didn't really need to do much, we didn't lose any of our big names, we got an elite super experienced player to help progress our younger guys and we got the backup ruckman we were looking for not named Petrie.  We've never been massive players with trades and recruiting players, we tend to develop our own and draft really well.  So many of our guys are still improving McGovern, Barass, Duggan, Sheed, Darling heck even Gaff, Shuey and Yeo prob haven't reached their potential.  We're fine and happy to slide under the radar.  ;)

Yeah but NN is a huge out and mitchell doesnt cover that.

At least Petrie will play, Vardy probably will break down on the flight over to WA.

Nobody can replace NN's importance to us? Mitchell goes some way though (by covering another deficiency in that part of the ground).

Vardy will probably play 10 games pending injury, not sure if anyoe saw, but Giles had a flowering blinder in round 23, and I definitely wouldn't rule us out picking up a mature aged ruckman in the rookie draft.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Rusty00 on October 20, 2016, 06:09:43 PM
Quote from: elephants on October 20, 2016, 05:28:06 PM
Quote from: SydneyRox on October 20, 2016, 05:26:09 PM
Quote from: elephants on October 20, 2016, 05:18:52 PM
Definitely disagree with anyone that says the Hawks lose!

They gave up a lot to get what came in the door. And they did some damage to players still there as well I reckon.

Handled Lewis and JOM trades really badly.

Havent got a pick in 2016 until #88

May not have lost due to getting JOM and Mitchell, but wouldnt call them winners

JOM and Mitchell have elite potential though imo, and Smitch was in his final year regardless. Lewis went real cheap, but lets be honest.. Fantasy aside he had some pretty poor games of footy last season, on the decline imo.
Lewis did finish second in the B&F. Not really sure you can call that "on the decline" :P
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: GoLions on October 20, 2016, 06:10:33 PM
Quote from: jvalles69 on October 20, 2016, 06:03:21 PM
Quote from: GoLions on October 20, 2016, 05:53:57 PM
Saints, Dees, Dockers, Giants would be my top 4 winners for the trade period

Quote from: jvalles69 on October 20, 2016, 05:17:03 PM
Losers
Crows
Power
Lions
I wouldn't say we lost anything. Odds are we basically got a top 10 pick for Hanley which is way overs, and Frost adds a bit of experience to our backline. Apparently we weren't gonna take McGrath in the draft, so dropping from 2 to 3 is irrelevant, and we have 4 picks inside the top 22. I'm happy with what happened for us.

You're prob right if you look at it in terms of a minor rebuild, but I looked at it as you lost a decent player in Hanley and club's relationship with the captain is a little/lot "rocky".  Put it this way, oyu're not doing better next year than you did this year, but that's prob not the idea anyway.
Eh, Hanley didn't want to be there and he'll be 28 in a few weeks. Tom Mitchell went for 14, Blues wanted 13 + extra for Gibbs. JOM went for 10 and a 2nd rounder. I'll be laughing if Port drop a bit this year and we end up with a pick around 6 for Pearce! ;D
Rocky seemingly does want to be there, and looks like things are fine now. Can't make a call there I guess until next year though haha (or earlier if he extends his contract).
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: meow meow on October 20, 2016, 06:12:08 PM
Quote from: Mat0369 on October 20, 2016, 06:02:24 PM
Quote from: meow meow on October 20, 2016, 04:44:34 PM
Quote from: Purple 77 on October 20, 2016, 04:41:18 PM
So, it is true that Hawks gave up 48, 66 & 70 for Carlton's 2017 second rounder (say Pick 25).

Surely... SURELY, an IOU was involved in this trade. I just can't understand it, at all.

Blues are going to win the flag, then add a couple of compo picks and we're looking at pick 40ish. Not so bad...

Or in reality somewhere around the pick 20 mark. flowering awful.

We traded our 2nd to Geelong so I'm not sure what future 2nd were using.

One from GWS in the Marchbank deal. They've probably acquired 6 of them so who knows which club it's attached to.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Mat0369 on October 20, 2016, 06:16:44 PM
Quote from: meow meow on October 20, 2016, 06:12:08 PM
Quote from: Mat0369 on October 20, 2016, 06:02:24 PM
Quote from: meow meow on October 20, 2016, 04:44:34 PM
Quote from: Purple 77 on October 20, 2016, 04:41:18 PM
So, it is true that Hawks gave up 48, 66 & 70 for Carlton's 2017 second rounder (say Pick 25).

Surely... SURELY, an IOU was involved in this trade. I just can't understand it, at all.

Blues are going to win the flag, then add a couple of compo picks and we're looking at pick 40ish. Not so bad...

Or in reality somewhere around the pick 20 mark. flowering awful.

We traded our 2nd to Geelong so I'm not sure what future 2nd were using.

One from GWS in the Marchbank deal. They've probably acquired 6 of them so who knows which club it's attached to.

I thought we traded those picks back to GWS in the Marchbank deal which is what's thrown me
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: GoLions on October 20, 2016, 06:17:57 PM
Quote from: meow meow on October 19, 2016, 11:56:17 PM
Quote from: meow meow on October 18, 2016, 07:19:46 PM
Who is left?

Softie?
Rocky? unlikely
Koby
Hrovat
Pickett
Marchbank
Hoskin-Elliott
Palmer
Stewart
Witts
Prestia
JOM
Vardy
Nank
Richards
Mackenzie
Brown
Silvagni
Lids?
Tuohy
Kersten
Lyons
CEY
Ah Choo
Cloke
Dunn
Grigg
Marsh
Hibberd
Lonergan?

Then the delisted FA's

Barlow
Petrie
Wilbur
Green
Grimes
Henderson
Dempsey?

Quote from: GoLions on October 20, 2016, 12:18:03 AM
I'm gonna guess that 15 of those get traded tomorrow

Koby
Hrovat
Pickett
Marchbank
WHS
Palmer
Stewart
Witts
JOM
Vardy
Lids
Kersten
Lyons
Cloke
Dunn

That's 15 from that list meow, unless I missed any? :P
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: elephants on October 20, 2016, 06:19:35 PM
Quote from: Rusty00 on October 20, 2016, 06:09:43 PM
Quote from: elephants on October 20, 2016, 05:28:06 PM
Quote from: SydneyRox on October 20, 2016, 05:26:09 PM
Quote from: elephants on October 20, 2016, 05:18:52 PM
Definitely disagree with anyone that says the Hawks lose!

They gave up a lot to get what came in the door. And they did some damage to players still there as well I reckon.

Handled Lewis and JOM trades really badly.

Havent got a pick in 2016 until #88

May not have lost due to getting JOM and Mitchell, but wouldnt call them winners

JOM and Mitchell have elite potential though imo, and Smitch was in his final year regardless. Lewis went real cheap, but lets be honest.. Fantasy aside he had some pretty poor games of footy last season, on the decline imo.
Lewis did finish second in the B&F. Not really sure you can call that "on the decline" :P

Haha fair call, in terms of consistent output though I stand by the fact he had more poor games than he has had in the past couple of years this season.

RD2: 19 possies, 4 FAs
RD4: 20 possies, 0 marks
RD5: 15 possies
SF: 10 possies

Granted he did actually warm into the season quite well after his early poor games, better than I thought!
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: meow meow on October 20, 2016, 06:21:06 PM
Quote from: Mat0369 on October 20, 2016, 06:16:44 PM
Quote from: meow meow on October 20, 2016, 06:12:08 PM
Quote from: Mat0369 on October 20, 2016, 06:02:24 PM
Quote from: meow meow on October 20, 2016, 04:44:34 PM
Quote from: Purple 77 on October 20, 2016, 04:41:18 PM
So, it is true that Hawks gave up 48, 66 & 70 for Carlton's 2017 second rounder (say Pick 25).

Surely... SURELY, an IOU was involved in this trade. I just can't understand it, at all.

Blues are going to win the flag, then add a couple of compo picks and we're looking at pick 40ish. Not so bad...

Or in reality somewhere around the pick 20 mark. flowering awful.

We traded our 2nd to Geelong so I'm not sure what future 2nd were using.

One from GWS in the Marchbank deal. They've probably acquired 6 of them so who knows which club it's attached to.

I thought we traded those picks back to GWS in the Marchbank deal which is what's thrown me

Traded Geelong's 1st rounder (from the Tuohy trade) to GWS for them + the 2nd rounder
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: meow meow on October 20, 2016, 06:26:02 PM
Quote from: GoLions on October 20, 2016, 06:17:57 PM
Quote from: meow meow on October 19, 2016, 11:56:17 PM
Quote from: meow meow on October 18, 2016, 07:19:46 PM
Who is left?

Softie?
Rocky? unlikely
Koby
Hrovat
Pickett
Marchbank
Hoskin-Elliott
Palmer
Stewart
Witts
Prestia
JOM
Vardy
Nank
Richards
Mackenzie
Brown
Silvagni
Lids?
Tuohy
Kersten
Lyons
CEY
Ah Choo
Cloke
Dunn
Grigg
Marsh
Hibberd
Lonergan?

Then the delisted FA's

Barlow
Petrie
Wilbur
Green
Grimes
Henderson
Dempsey?

Quote from: GoLions on October 20, 2016, 12:18:03 AM
I'm gonna guess that 15 of those get traded tomorrow

Koby
Hrovat
Pickett
Marchbank
WHS
Palmer
Stewart
Witts
JOM
Vardy
Lids
Kersten
Lyons
Cloke
Dunn

That's 15 from that list meow, unless I missed any? :P

+10 points for GL! (-5 for not answering the Q and saying that Frost was also to be traded)
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Mat0369 on October 20, 2016, 06:33:12 PM
Quote from: meow meow on October 20, 2016, 06:21:06 PM
Quote from: Mat0369 on October 20, 2016, 06:16:44 PM
Quote from: meow meow on October 20, 2016, 06:12:08 PM
Quote from: Mat0369 on October 20, 2016, 06:02:24 PM
Quote from: meow meow on October 20, 2016, 04:44:34 PM
Quote from: Purple 77 on October 20, 2016, 04:41:18 PM
So, it is true that Hawks gave up 48, 66 & 70 for Carlton's 2017 second rounder (say Pick 25).

Surely... SURELY, an IOU was involved in this trade. I just can't understand it, at all.

Blues are going to win the flag, then add a couple of compo picks and we're looking at pick 40ish. Not so bad...

Or in reality somewhere around the pick 20 mark. flowering awful.

We traded our 2nd to Geelong so I'm not sure what future 2nd were using.

One from GWS in the Marchbank deal. They've probably acquired 6 of them so who knows which club it's attached to.

I thought we traded those picks back to GWS in the Marchbank deal which is what's thrown me

Traded Geelong's 1st rounder (from the Tuohy trade) to GWS for them + the 2nd rounder

So we basically traded Tuohy, our future 2nd and downgraded in the 3rd and 4th for Marchbank, Pickett and Palmer. Win!
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: meow meow on October 20, 2016, 06:36:26 PM
Quote from: Mat0369 on October 20, 2016, 06:33:12 PM
Quote from: meow meow on October 20, 2016, 06:21:06 PM
Quote from: Mat0369 on October 20, 2016, 06:16:44 PM
Quote from: meow meow on October 20, 2016, 06:12:08 PM
Quote from: Mat0369 on October 20, 2016, 06:02:24 PM
Quote from: meow meow on October 20, 2016, 04:44:34 PM
Quote from: Purple 77 on October 20, 2016, 04:41:18 PM
So, it is true that Hawks gave up 48, 66 & 70 for Carlton's 2017 second rounder (say Pick 25).

Surely... SURELY, an IOU was involved in this trade. I just can't understand it, at all.

Blues are going to win the flag, then add a couple of compo picks and we're looking at pick 40ish. Not so bad...

Or in reality somewhere around the pick 20 mark. flowering awful.

We traded our 2nd to Geelong so I'm not sure what future 2nd were using.

One from GWS in the Marchbank deal. They've probably acquired 6 of them so who knows which club it's attached to.

I thought we traded those picks back to GWS in the Marchbank deal which is what's thrown me

Traded Geelong's 1st rounder (from the Tuohy trade) to GWS for them + the 2nd rounder

So we basically traded Tuohy, our future 2nd and downgraded in the 3rd and 4th for Marchbank, Pickett and Palmer. Win!

... and kept Bryce who isn't soft.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Mat0369 on October 20, 2016, 06:45:52 PM
I'm really happy with that. Our spine is starting to take shape.

Weits
Marchbank
Cripps
Curnow
McKay
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: RaisyDaisy on October 20, 2016, 07:03:08 PM
Stop trolling Holz

Nobody said we did the best. Mitchell and Vardy regardless of his injuries for 2 junk picks can only be a win

At least we don't treat our greats like rubbish and give out first round picks for spuds like Jed :P
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Ringo on October 20, 2016, 07:04:23 PM
Quote from: GoLions on October 20, 2016, 06:10:33 PM
Quote from: jvalles69 on October 20, 2016, 06:03:21 PM
Quote from: GoLions on October 20, 2016, 05:53:57 PM
Saints, Dees, Dockers, Giants would be my top 4 winners for the trade period

Quote from: jvalles69 on October 20, 2016, 05:17:03 PM
Losers
Crows
Power
Lions
I wouldn't say we lost anything. Odds are we basically got a top 10 pick for Hanley which is way overs, and Frost adds a bit of experience to our backline. Apparently we weren't gonna take McGrath in the draft, so dropping from 2 to 3 is irrelevant, and we have 4 picks inside the top 22. I'm happy with what happened for us.

You're prob right if you look at it in terms of a minor rebuild, but I looked at it as you lost a decent player in Hanley and club's relationship with the captain is a little/lot "rocky".  Put it this way, oyu're not doing better next year than you did this year, but that's prob not the idea anyway.
Eh, Hanley didn't want to be there and he'll be 28 in a few weeks. Tom Mitchell went for 14, Blues wanted 13 + extra for Softie. JOM went for 10 and a 2nd rounder. I'll be laughing if Port drop a bit this year and we end up with a pick around 6 for Pearce! ;D
Rocky seemingly does want to be there, and looks like things are fine now. Can't make a call there I guess until next year though haha (or earlier if he extends his contract).
Regarding Rocky Fagan and Noble have met with the leadership group individually and stated what is expected next year.  Leadership group for next year is not to be finalised until pre-season and all players now that.
http://www.lions.com.au/news/2016-10-20/leadership-roles-will-be-reviewed
My only concern is that we have no picks between 21 and 78 which means we may have to bite the bullet and take Ellison with pick 21 if we do not have enough points stockpiled.
Do not mind the extra first round pick for next year though as we may have to use it to secure Connor Ballenden
Liuke
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: meow meow on October 20, 2016, 07:12:57 PM
Dogs traded Koby and Hrovat not for cap reasons, but to enable them to find AFL homes instead of being stuck in the VFL and because we have to use 3 picks at the draft as per AFL rules, and nobody else on the list was uncontracted/deserving to be cut.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: shaker on October 20, 2016, 07:17:34 PM
Happy With the Tiges gained Prestia , Caddy , Nankervis lost Lids , pick 6 next year 2 first round picks and a extra 3rd round , way better than the last few years  ;)
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: tbagrocks on October 20, 2016, 07:28:27 PM
Quote from: shaker on October 20, 2016, 07:17:34 PM
Happy With the Tiges gained Prestia , Caddy , Nankervis lost Lids , pick 6 next year 2 first round picks and a extra 3rd round , way better than the last few years  ;)
Still insure how GWS steal Lids after Tigs pay #6 for Prestia. Well done though Tigers, got who you needed

How Giants can fit Lids under the salary cap ........

Nice to see everyone else happy to see GWS and cheat again as usual though!
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: shaker on October 20, 2016, 07:35:13 PM
Quote from: tbagrocks on October 20, 2016, 07:28:27 PM
Quote from: shaker on October 20, 2016, 07:17:34 PM
Happy With the Tiges gained Prestia , Caddy , Nankervis lost Lids , pick 6 next year 2 first round picks and a extra 3rd round , way better than the last few years  ;)
Still insure how GWS steal Lids after Tigs pay #6 for Prestia. Well done though Tigers, got who you needed

How Giants can fit Lids under the salary cap ........

Nice to see everyone else happy to see GWS and cheat again as usual though!

He had to take a pay cut and pick 6 is a bit high but he is young and quality and swapped 2nd rounds which got us Caddy , good to see Lids go somewhere that will give him a crack at a flag or two before he bows out
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: nrich102 on October 20, 2016, 07:42:27 PM
Im sure GWS are keen to have someone with such rich finals experience like Deledio on their list
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Football Factory on October 20, 2016, 08:16:14 PM
Quote from: nrich102 on October 20, 2016, 07:42:27 PM
Im sure GWS are keen to have someone with such rich finals experience like Deledio on their list

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Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: RaisyDaisy on October 20, 2016, 09:18:37 PM
Just looking over today's trades, if it wasn't for Carlton than JOM wouldn't have landed at the Hawks

GC needed 2 second rounders on top of 10, and SOS came to the rescue saying he would give Hawthorn their future second rounder once they received it from GWS, and Hawks only had to give up a 48, 66 and 70. Not sure why Carlton was generous to help Hawks there

Palmer going for 135 is pretty funny too. 135!!
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Mat0369 on October 20, 2016, 09:23:51 PM
I'd say the Hawks might be doing us a solid in the future. Maybe they have agreed to let Litherland come to us as a delisted free agent.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Bill Manspeaker on October 20, 2016, 09:24:20 PM
there's gotta be like an under the table agreement or whatever between Carlton and Hawthorn. remember this for next year to see if the Hawks look after the Blues

otherwise that's just strange!


yeah what Mat said :P
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: TomK on October 20, 2016, 09:25:39 PM
Quote from: Mat0369 on October 20, 2016, 09:23:51 PM
I'd say the Hawks might be doing us a solid in the future. Maybe they have agreed to let Litherland come to us as a delisted free agent.
I thought he was pretty decent a couple years ago when he debuted
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Rusty00 on October 20, 2016, 09:31:37 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on October 20, 2016, 09:18:37 PM
Palmer going for 135 is pretty funny too. 135!!
There used to be a rule where you had to use any draft pick that you traded in. So in this instance GWS would have had to use pick 135 in the draft ;)
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Mat0369 on October 20, 2016, 09:37:15 PM
The other thing is when you look at it in terms of points the GWS 2nd round pick next year will be equal to what the Hawks gave us this year.

We effectively on traded it to recoup the picks we traded to GWS so I understand why we also made that move.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Toga on October 20, 2016, 10:27:23 PM
Quote from: nrich102 on October 20, 2016, 07:42:27 PM
Im sure GWS are keen to have someone with such rich finals experience like Deledio on their list

Makes up for the loss of Patful this year I guess! :)
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: nrich102 on October 21, 2016, 12:25:36 AM
Quote from: Toga on October 20, 2016, 10:27:23 PM
Quote from: nrich102 on October 20, 2016, 07:42:27 PM
Im sure GWS are keen to have someone with such rich finals experience like Deledio on their list

Makes up for the loss of Patful this year I guess! :)
Patful has won more finals than Deledio has ;)
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Mat0369 on October 21, 2016, 12:32:49 AM
Quote from: nrich102 on October 21, 2016, 12:25:36 AM
Patful has won more finals than Deledio has ;)

GWS have won more finals then Deledio.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: elephants on October 21, 2016, 04:46:18 AM
Didn't the Hawks do something similar with the Saints? Something involving Savage and Big Boy? I can't remember exactly but someone did someone a favour then gave them a good trade later on. Not against the rules I guess, but I hope JOM flops :P
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: JBs-Hawks on October 21, 2016, 07:21:10 AM
We gave them Bolton
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: RaisyDaisy on October 21, 2016, 08:37:51 AM
Either way, it helped out the Hawks so I'm sure they'll owe the Carlton Giants one back eventually
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: nrich102 on October 21, 2016, 08:37:58 AM
Quote from: Mat0369 on October 21, 2016, 12:32:49 AM
Quote from: nrich102 on October 21, 2016, 12:25:36 AM
Patful has won more finals than Deledio has ;)

GWS have won more finals then Deledio.
Brisbane have won more finals in the last 10 years than Deledio :o
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Holz on October 21, 2016, 11:55:10 AM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on October 20, 2016, 07:03:08 PM
Stop trolling Holz

Nobody said we did the best. Mitchell and Vardy regardless of his injuries for 2 junk picks can only be a win

At least we don't treat our greats like rubbish and give out first round picks for spuds like Jed :P

Well elephants said they should be in the poll for the team that did the best.

they did a good job and won but other teams did better.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: elephants on October 21, 2016, 12:38:00 PM
Quote from: Holz on October 21, 2016, 11:55:10 AM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on October 20, 2016, 07:03:08 PM
Stop trolling Holz

Nobody said we did the best. Mitchell and Vardy regardless of his injuries for 2 junk picks can only be a win

At least we don't treat our greats like rubbish and give out first round picks for spuds like Jed :P

Well elephants said they should be in the poll for the team that did the best.

they did a good job and won but other teams did better.

We gave up nothing, filled a need and gained an elite player.

Didnt put a foot wrong, have to be in the conversation.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: jvalles69 on October 21, 2016, 12:44:59 PM
Quote from: elephants on October 21, 2016, 12:38:00 PM
Quote from: Holz on October 21, 2016, 11:55:10 AM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on October 20, 2016, 07:03:08 PM
Stop trolling Holz

Nobody said we did the best. Mitchell and Vardy regardless of his injuries for 2 junk picks can only be a win

At least we don't treat our greats like rubbish and give out first round picks for spuds like Jed :P

Well elephants said they should be in the poll for the team that did the best.

they did a good job and won but other teams did better.

We gave up nothing, filled a need and gained an elite player.

Didnt put a foot wrong, have to be in the conversation.

It's all respective to where teams currently are.

West Coast was pushing for top 4, with Mitchell and not losing anyone plus adding a backup ruckman as well as overall youngster improvements means we push for top 4 again.

Melbourne and Saints didn't make the 8, their moves bring them closer to top 8 so they are the biggest winners.

Freo had a horrible year, made the changes they think they needed too and should improve from that.

GC sucked, but placed themselves very well for draft picks.

Hawks lost a lot to gain a lot.

Just a few different examples.

Top tier for me are Saints and Dees, teams like West Coast, Freo and Hawks are prob the tier under that.  Freo did better than West Coast in the trade period, but it doesn't put them ahead of us overall so I rate their trade periods equally.  It's all relative.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Bill Manspeaker on October 21, 2016, 01:04:47 PM
Quote from: elephants on October 21, 2016, 04:46:18 AM
Didn't the Hawks do something similar with the Saints? Something involving Savage and Big Boy? I can't remember exactly but someone did someone a favour then gave them a good trade later on. Not against the rules I guess, but I hope JOM flops :P
yep, we traded them Macca for 18 (or 19) and Savage, and they agreed to also give us 19 (or 18) for pretty much nothing (59 or something) when they got their hands on it
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: elephants on October 21, 2016, 01:57:08 PM
Quote from: Bill Manspeaker on October 21, 2016, 01:04:47 PM
Quote from: elephants on October 21, 2016, 04:46:18 AM
Didn't the Hawks do something similar with the Saints? Something involving Savage and Big Boy? I can't remember exactly but someone did someone a favour then gave them a good trade later on. Not against the rules I guess, but I hope JOM flops :P
yep, we traded them Macca for 18 (or 19) and Savage, and they agreed to also give us 19 (or 18) for pretty much nothing (59 or something) when they got their hands on it

Yep sweet, cheers mate. Knew I wasn't going crazy!
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Big Mac on October 21, 2016, 02:00:14 PM
Quote from: Jukes on October 20, 2016, 03:35:21 PM
What is with clubs trading away youngsters with pretty decent potential (Lyons, Stewart, Caddy, Black, Stevens, and then even older guys like Cloke and Dunn) for literally flower-all this trade period? Making some trades absolutely unwinnable for some clubs, and you should go in with the goal of winning every trade.

Have to consider guys like Stewart, Black and Stevens have been in the system for a few years now and aren't really a chance of getting games at their respective clubs, so better off doing the right thing by them and getting them somewhere they might actually play

Then Cloke and Dunn are both cooked, Dunn especially played the 2nd half of the year of the VFL, just wasn't able to adapt to the new modern gameplan, is more of an oldschool defender and the game is moving past him. Who knows what Cloke will do next year

Lyons and Caddy just poor trades imo
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: RaisyDaisy on October 21, 2016, 04:20:51 PM
Melbourne has delisted Chris Dawes, Ben Newton, Viv Michie and Max King

Dawes was blessed to last as long as he did
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Purple 77 on October 21, 2016, 05:31:21 PM
Sigh, I remember the dubbed "good moves by Melbourne" in getting Michie & Newton. Had so much promise, especially Newton, whom I still think was unlucky not to get a proper go at it, he offered something IMO.

... it was the thought that counted Dawes! Thanks for coming to our club when no one else would. But I will say, the only thing I'll really miss, is the Dawes thread on Demonland. That always cheered me up.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: jvalles69 on October 21, 2016, 05:41:51 PM
http://www.espn.com.au/afl/story/_/id/17843510/biggest-lessons-2016-afl-trade-period (http://www.espn.com.au/afl/story/_/id/17843510/biggest-lessons-2016-afl-trade-period)
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Bill Manspeaker on October 22, 2016, 12:30:46 PM
Quote from: elephants on October 21, 2016, 01:57:08 PM
Quote from: Bill Manspeaker on October 21, 2016, 01:04:47 PM
Quote from: elephants on October 21, 2016, 04:46:18 AM
Didn't the Hawks do something similar with the Saints? Something involving Savage and Big Boy? I can't remember exactly but someone did someone a favour then gave them a good trade later on. Not against the rules I guess, but I hope JOM flops :P
yep, we traded them Macca for 18 (or 19) and Savage, and they agreed to also give us 19 (or 18) for pretty much nothing (59 or something) when they got their hands on it

Yep sweet, cheers mate. Knew I wasn't going crazy!
I got a bit excited, it was actually something like 24+59 for 19, but that's still damn good for us, pretty much turned 24 into 19 for nothing
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: enzedder on October 24, 2016, 05:32:30 PM
Anyone want Barlow.
He's possibly gone from everyone's SC team to playing for Koo Wee Rup
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Koop on October 24, 2016, 05:33:33 PM
Quote from: enzedder on October 24, 2016, 05:32:30 PM
Anyone want Barlow.
He's possibly gone from everyone's SC team to playing for Koo Wee Rup

Would take him over Sam Gray in our best 22 tbh. Come to Port!
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Jukes on October 24, 2016, 05:35:26 PM
He's only 28, most serious teams with salary cap/list room should be after him - would love him at the dons.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Money Shot on October 24, 2016, 05:36:11 PM
Quote from: Koop on October 24, 2016, 05:33:33 PM
Quote from: enzedder on October 24, 2016, 05:32:30 PM
Anyone want Barlow.
He's possibly gone from everyone's SC team to playing for Koo Wee Rup

Would take him over Sam Gray in our best 22 tbh. Come to Port!
I reckon Adelaide would be his best fit!
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: WhatMate on October 24, 2016, 05:37:14 PM
Quote from: Koop on October 24, 2016, 05:33:33 PM
Quote from: enzedder on October 24, 2016, 05:32:30 PM
Anyone want Barlow.
He's possibly gone from everyone's SC team to playing for Koo Wee Rup

Would take him over Sam Gray in our best 22 tbh. Come to Port!
Not Port but...
http://www.adelaidenow.com.au/sport/afl/port-adelaide-great-kane-cornes-says-adelaide-must-sign-michael-barlow-for-2017/news-story/787c5390ba6e2bb0699835edf22f2adf
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Big Mac on October 24, 2016, 06:52:16 PM
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2016-10-24/cats-cut-mitch-clark-after-two-years (http://www.afl.com.au/news/2016-10-24/cats-cut-mitch-clark-after-two-years)

Clark gone, wonder if another club will pick him up
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: RaisyDaisy on October 24, 2016, 06:55:24 PM
Port have delisted Paul Stewart
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: meow meow on October 24, 2016, 07:03:26 PM
Quote from: Big  Mac on October 24, 2016, 06:52:16 PM
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2016-10-24/cats-cut-mitch-clark-after-two-years (http://www.afl.com.au/news/2016-10-24/cats-cut-mitch-clark-after-two-years)

Clark gone, wonder if another club will pick him up

Highly doubt it.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Bill Manspeaker on October 24, 2016, 07:21:49 PM
wonder if he'll wanna go back to the Dees now they're on the up
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Purple 77 on October 24, 2016, 08:06:02 PM
Quote from: Bill Manspeaker on October 24, 2016, 07:21:49 PM
wonder if he'll wanna go back to the Dees now they're on the up

No way we'd take him back. That guy has well and truly burnt that bridge.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: tbagrocks on October 24, 2016, 08:09:04 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on October 24, 2016, 06:55:24 PM
Port have delisted Paul Stewart
I seriously thought the last four years that, this guy can really play! Fantastic utility seriously underrated!

Also, anyone think Adelaide should take Barlow? Or leave it to the younger guys to step up?

Also, really hope Stewart gets another crack!
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Ringo on October 24, 2016, 08:34:57 PM
Quote from: meow meow on October 24, 2016, 07:03:26 PM
Quote from: Big  Mac on October 24, 2016, 06:52:16 PM
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2016-10-24/cats-cut-mitch-clark-after-two-years (http://www.afl.com.au/news/2016-10-24/cats-cut-mitch-clark-after-two-years)

Clark gone, wonder if another club will pick him up

Highly doubt it.
Seeing his reason for leaving Lions was homesick and wanting to return to WAbefore dollars at Dees intervened will Eagles take him? Handy ruck back up whilst Nat recovers.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: RaisyDaisy on October 24, 2016, 08:41:35 PM
Vardy is enough Ringo

Wouldn't want to risk both of them, and Vardy has a lot more upside

I'd think it's over for Mitch
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: elephants on October 24, 2016, 10:09:45 PM
Quote from: Ringo on October 24, 2016, 08:34:57 PM
Quote from: meow meow on October 24, 2016, 07:03:26 PM
Quote from: Big  Mac on October 24, 2016, 06:52:16 PM
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2016-10-24/cats-cut-mitch-clark-after-two-years (http://www.afl.com.au/news/2016-10-24/cats-cut-mitch-clark-after-two-years)

Clark gone, wonder if another club will pick him up

Highly doubt it.
Seeing his reason for leaving Lions was homesick and wanting to return to WAbefore dollars at Dees intervened will Eagles take him? Handy ruck back up whilst Nat recovers.

From all reports our salary situation is tight (must be paying Smitch bucket-loads for his one year deal imo) so I'd deem it unlikely. He's still pretty sick too imo, so there's a lot of extra baggage in that sense.

I agree with RD, Lycett, Giles, Vardy + a rookie is enough
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: RaisyDaisy on October 25, 2016, 08:45:00 AM
Yeah apparently us getting Smitch meant we couldn't afford Balla, thank flower
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: shaker on October 25, 2016, 09:52:01 AM
Quote from: tbagrocks on October 24, 2016, 08:09:04 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on October 24, 2016, 06:55:24 PM
Port have delisted Paul Stewart
I seriously thought the last four years that, this guy can really play! Fantastic utility seriously underrated!

Also, anyone think Adelaide should take Barlow? Or leave it to the younger guys to step up?

Also, really hope Stewart gets another crack!

On Barlow he would be a good fit for you guys but think GC will beat you to him they will be looking for an mid like him after losing 2 mids in trade period
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: powersuperkents on October 25, 2016, 10:35:15 AM
Quote from: shaker on October 25, 2016, 09:52:01 AM
Quote from: tbagrocks on October 24, 2016, 08:09:04 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on October 24, 2016, 06:55:24 PM
Port have delisted Paul Stewart
I seriously thought the last four years that, this guy can really play! Fantastic utility seriously underrated!

Also, anyone think Adelaide should take Barlow? Or leave it to the younger guys to step up?

Also, really hope Stewart gets another crack!

On Barlow he would be a good fit for you guys but think GC will beat you to him they will be looking for an mid like him after losing 2 mids in trade period
I think it will depend on whether Barlow is more interested in the money or having a crack at the premiership imo

I think after this ordeal with the Dockers, it may be prudent to go to the higher paying club (his earning capacity is starting to run thin)
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: iZander on October 25, 2016, 10:37:25 AM
Quote from: powersuperkents on October 25, 2016, 10:35:15 AM
Quote from: shaker on October 25, 2016, 09:52:01 AM
Quote from: tbagrocks on October 24, 2016, 08:09:04 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on October 24, 2016, 06:55:24 PM
Port have delisted Paul Stewart
I seriously thought the last four years that, this guy can really play! Fantastic utility seriously underrated!

Also, anyone think Adelaide should take Barlow? Or leave it to the younger guys to step up?

Also, really hope Stewart gets another crack!

On Barlow he would be a good fit for you guys but think GC will beat you to him they will be looking for an mid like him after losing 2 mids in trade period
I think it will depend on whether Barlow is more interested in the money or having a crack at the premiership imo

I think after this ordeal with the Dockers, it may be prudent to go to the higher paying club (his earning capacity is starting to run thin)

Yeah, i reckon hes stuggling, AFL players arent payed enough
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: powersuperkents on October 25, 2016, 10:56:14 AM
Quote from: iZander on October 25, 2016, 10:37:25 AM
Quote from: powersuperkents on October 25, 2016, 10:35:15 AM
Quote from: shaker on October 25, 2016, 09:52:01 AM
Quote from: tbagrocks on October 24, 2016, 08:09:04 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on October 24, 2016, 06:55:24 PM
Port have delisted Paul Stewart
I seriously thought the last four years that, this guy can really play! Fantastic utility seriously underrated!

Also, anyone think Adelaide should take Barlow? Or leave it to the younger guys to step up?

Also, really hope Stewart gets another crack!

On Barlow he would be a good fit for you guys but think GC will beat you to him they will be looking for an mid like him after losing 2 mids in trade period
I think it will depend on whether Barlow is more interested in the money or having a crack at the premiership imo

I think after this ordeal with the Dockers, it may be prudent to go to the higher paying club (his earning capacity is starting to run thin)

Yeah, i reckon hes stuggling, AFL players arent payed enough
Well it's like any contract job... you earn a lot in the short-term, but when those payments are considered over the duration of one's life it will usually only amount to an average wage.

There's jobs after footy but they rarely pay a comparable salary to an AFL contract

I think at this stage in your career, the money should be the priority unless he's been financially savvy - similar applies to Lids, I know that he will likely win a premiership at GWS, but it will cost him a steady price tag of $600k to do so (the total amount he's forfeiting from his salary).

Then again, others may say it's about more than the money, and considering that winning the premiership is a boyhood dream for many players, it's quite commendable that Lids would sacrifice that much just to accomplish it - it's a big win for the Giants to get a player with the character to do something like that and I really hope it works out (he's likely to get 3 premierships looking at their list at this point  :P )
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: shaker on October 25, 2016, 11:05:25 AM
Quote from: powersuperkents on October 25, 2016, 10:56:14 AM
Quote from: iZander on October 25, 2016, 10:37:25 AM
Quote from: powersuperkents on October 25, 2016, 10:35:15 AM
Quote from: shaker on October 25, 2016, 09:52:01 AM
Quote from: tbagrocks on October 24, 2016, 08:09:04 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on October 24, 2016, 06:55:24 PM
Port have delisted Paul Stewart
I seriously thought the last four years that, this guy can really play! Fantastic utility seriously underrated!

Also, anyone think Adelaide should take Barlow? Or leave it to the younger guys to step up?

Also, really hope Stewart gets another crack!

On Barlow he would be a good fit for you guys but think GC will beat you to him they will be looking for an mid like him after losing 2 mids in trade period
I think it will depend on whether Barlow is more interested in the money or having a crack at the premiership imo

I think after this ordeal with the Dockers, it may be prudent to go to the higher paying club (his earning capacity is starting to run thin)

Yeah, i reckon hes stuggling, AFL players arent payed enough
Well it's like any contract job... you earn a lot in the short-term, but when those payments are considered over the duration of one's life it will usually only amount to an average wage.

There's jobs after footy but they rarely pay a comparable salary to an AFL contract

I think at this stage in your career, the money should be the priority unless he's been financially savvy - similar applies to Lids, I know that he will likely win a premiership at GWS, but it will cost him a steady price tag of $600k to do so (the total amount he's forfeiting from his salary).

Then again, others may say it's about more than the money, and considering that winning the premiership is a boyhood dream for many players, it's quite commendable that Lids would sacrifice that much just to accomplish it - it's a big win for the Giants to get a player with the character to do something like that and I really hope it works out (he's likely to get 3 premierships looking at their list at this point  :P )

Very true but as for Barlow playing for a premiership I know GC are nowhere near the Crows are closer but still can't see them winning one anytime soon with the talent of GWS the coaching brilliance of the Bulldogs and the consistency of Sydney plus a couple of other contenders so if I were Barlow I would be purely focusing on the $$$$  :P
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: powersuperkents on October 25, 2016, 11:25:19 AM
Quote from: shaker on October 25, 2016, 11:05:25 AM
Quote from: powersuperkents on October 25, 2016, 10:56:14 AM
Quote from: iZander on October 25, 2016, 10:37:25 AM
Quote from: powersuperkents on October 25, 2016, 10:35:15 AM
Quote from: shaker on October 25, 2016, 09:52:01 AM
Quote from: tbagrocks on October 24, 2016, 08:09:04 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on October 24, 2016, 06:55:24 PM
Port have delisted Paul Stewart
I seriously thought the last four years that, this guy can really play! Fantastic utility seriously underrated!

Also, anyone think Adelaide should take Barlow? Or leave it to the younger guys to step up?

Also, really hope Stewart gets another crack!

On Barlow he would be a good fit for you guys but think GC will beat you to him they will be looking for an mid like him after losing 2 mids in trade period
I think it will depend on whether Barlow is more interested in the money or having a crack at the premiership imo

I think after this ordeal with the Dockers, it may be prudent to go to the higher paying club (his earning capacity is starting to run thin)

Yeah, i reckon hes stuggling, AFL players arent payed enough
Well it's like any contract job... you earn a lot in the short-term, but when those payments are considered over the duration of one's life it will usually only amount to an average wage.

There's jobs after footy but they rarely pay a comparable salary to an AFL contract

I think at this stage in your career, the money should be the priority unless he's been financially savvy - similar applies to Lids, I know that he will likely win a premiership at GWS, but it will cost him a steady price tag of $600k to do so (the total amount he's forfeiting from his salary).

Then again, others may say it's about more than the money, and considering that winning the premiership is a boyhood dream for many players, it's quite commendable that Lids would sacrifice that much just to accomplish it - it's a big win for the Giants to get a player with the character to do something like that and I really hope it works out (he's likely to get 3 premierships looking at their list at this point  :P )

Very true but as for Barlow playing for a premiership I know GC are nowhere near the Crows are closer but still can't see them winning one anytime soon with the talent of GWS the coaching brilliance of the Bulldogs and the consistency of Sydney plus a couple of other contenders so if I were Barlow I would be purely focusing on the $$$$  :P
+1
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Ringo on October 25, 2016, 12:47:00 PM
http://www.lions.com.au/news/2016-10-25/lions-delist-green

Josh Green has been informed his contract will not be renewed by Brisbane. Could be a handy pick up wanting a speedy small forward and goal sneak.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: iZander on October 25, 2016, 12:56:37 PM
Quote from: Ringo on October 25, 2016, 12:47:00 PM
http://www.lions.com.au/news/2016-10-25/lions-delist-green

Josh Green has been informed his contract will not be renewed by Brisbane. Could be a handy pick up wanting a speedy small forward and goal sneak.

What am i missing? Why are they delisting him? thought he was decent
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Ringo on October 25, 2016, 01:02:32 PM
4 into 3 small will not go. Zorko Taylor and "Bundy" Christensen. Think we waited on the Taylor decision before making a final decision on Green. When Taylor re-signed Green was odds on to be delisted given his contract expires on 31st October.
Agree he was decent with his goal kicking and forward defensive pressure but he did slip this year like most and his foot injury did not help.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: iZander on October 25, 2016, 01:04:43 PM
Quote from: Ringo on October 25, 2016, 01:02:32 PM
4 into 3 small will not go. Zorko Taylor and "Bundy" Christensen. Think we waited on the Taylor decision before making a final decision on Green. When Taylor re-signed Green was odds on to be delisted given his contract expires on 31st October.
Agree he was decent with his goal kicking and forward defensive pressure but he did slip this year like most and his foot injury did not help.
2 time brissy leading goal kicker :P Not a huge achievement but wouldnt of thought brissy had the list to be pushing decent players out :P Might not be as good as i thought but id be happy with him at the bombers!
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: GoLions on October 25, 2016, 01:06:13 PM
Quote from: iZander on October 25, 2016, 01:04:43 PM
Quote from: Ringo on October 25, 2016, 01:02:32 PM
4 into 3 small will not go. Zorko Taylor and "Bundy" Christensen. Think we waited on the Taylor decision before making a final decision on Green. When Taylor re-signed Green was odds on to be delisted given his contract expires on 31st October.
Agree he was decent with his goal kicking and forward defensive pressure but he did slip this year like most and his foot injury did not help.
2 time brissy leading goal kicker :P Not a huge achievement but wouldnt of thought brissy had the list to be pushing decent players out :P Might not be as good as i thought but id be happy with him at the bombers!
He's never going to be a great player, and there's a lot of kids that we want to get games into and that can perform almost as well as Green can imo.

He could be better at a better club though.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: iZander on October 25, 2016, 01:21:17 PM
Quote from: GoLions on October 25, 2016, 01:06:13 PM
Quote from: iZander on October 25, 2016, 01:04:43 PM
Quote from: Ringo on October 25, 2016, 01:02:32 PM
4 into 3 small will not go. Zorko Taylor and "Bundy" Christensen. Think we waited on the Taylor decision before making a final decision on Green. When Taylor re-signed Green was odds on to be delisted given his contract expires on 31st October.
Agree he was decent with his goal kicking and forward defensive pressure but he did slip this year like most and his foot injury did not help.
2 time brissy leading goal kicker :P Not a huge achievement but wouldnt of thought brissy had the list to be pushing decent players out :P Might not be as good as i thought but id be happy with him at the bombers!
He's never going to be a great player, and there's a lot of kids that we want to get games into and that can perform almost as well as Green can imo.

He could be better at a better club though.
Fair enough :P
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: RaisyDaisy on October 25, 2016, 01:27:09 PM
Don't rate Green at all

Harsh perhaps, but that's just the way I see it

Has been linked to Essendon apparently
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: elephants on October 25, 2016, 01:37:46 PM
I think he's got something about him from an AFL sense. Good pace, good around goal, could fit in well somewhere imo. As stated, its not Brissie though. Some reports of him wanting a move earlier in the year, and he's not as good as Lewy Taylor and Ainsworth will be better.

Zorko I classify as a mid, Christo was hbf last he played.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: elephants on October 25, 2016, 03:40:23 PM
Carlton has delisted Andrejs Everitt, Dillon Viojo-Rainbow, Jason Tutt, Mark Whiley, Andrew Gallucci and Billy Gowers.
Gallucci and Gowers have been offered to train with the club in the hope of being re-rookied.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Pkbaldy on October 25, 2016, 03:41:45 PM
Quote from: elephants on October 25, 2016, 03:40:23 PM
Carlton has delisted Andrejs Everitt, Dillon Viojo-Rainbow, Jason Tutt, Mark Whiley, Andrew Gallucci and Billy Gowers.
Gallucci and Gowers have been offered to train with the club in the hope of being re-rookied.

Back to Finley for Whiley.

Viojo-Rainbow wasn't given much of a chance :(
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: elephants on October 25, 2016, 03:44:33 PM
Quote from: Pkbaldy on October 25, 2016, 03:41:45 PM
Quote from: elephants on October 25, 2016, 03:40:23 PM
Carlton has delisted Andrejs Everitt, Dillon Viojo-Rainbow, Jason Tutt, Mark Whiley, Andrew Gallucci and Billy Gowers.
Gallucci and Gowers have been offered to train with the club in the hope of being re-rookied.

Back to Finley for Whiley.

Viojo-Rainbow wasn't given much of a chance :(

Yeah thought Whiley had something at the Giants but never looked any good at the Blues imo. If Graham is fringe then Whiley will always struggle.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Pkbaldy on October 25, 2016, 04:41:12 PM
Quote from: elephants on October 25, 2016, 03:44:33 PM
Quote from: Pkbaldy on October 25, 2016, 03:41:45 PM
Quote from: elephants on October 25, 2016, 03:40:23 PM
Carlton has delisted Andrejs Everitt, Dillon Viojo-Rainbow, Jason Tutt, Mark Whiley, Andrew Gallucci and Billy Gowers.
Gallucci and Gowers have been offered to train with the club in the hope of being re-rookied.

Back to Finley for Whiley.

Viojo-Rainbow wasn't given much of a chance :(

Yeah thought Whiley had something at the Giants but never looked any good at the Blues imo. If Graham is fringe then Whiley will always struggle.

Yeah at the Giants he played on the outside, which was where he was actually decent. Transitioned to the inside but didn't pull off because he's scared to get the ball himself. Good enough guy. But was never AFL standard.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: tbagrocks on October 25, 2016, 07:50:37 PM
So Paul Stewart has retired, one of the most underrated footballers I have ever seen!

Really cant quite figure out why he wasn't in the starting 22 every week! fantastic utility either end ???
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Mat0369 on October 25, 2016, 09:32:10 PM
Whiley's best games at GWS were as a tagger. He couldn't win the pill and his diaposal is poor. If he was to play as an outside mid I'd be even worse.

The Rainbow pick was terrible when we made it and it's even worse now. He struggled to get 15 touches a game at VFL level. If you can't get a sniff of the pill in 2 years in the twos then good luck doing. That draft is going to become the lost draft at Carlton.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: powersuperkents on October 25, 2016, 10:16:53 PM
Quote from: Mat0369 on October 25, 2016, 09:32:10 PM
Whiley's best games at GWS were as a tagger. He couldn't win the pill and his diaposal is poor. If he was to play as an outside mid I'd be even worse.

The Rainbow pick was terrible when we made it and it's even worse now. He struggled to get 15 touches a game at VFL level. If you can't get a sniff of the pill in 2 years in the twos then good luck doing. That draft is going to become the lost draft at Carlton.
All Malthouse's recruitments were horrible - in a few off-seasons he managed to completely flower up the list

Bolton's and SoS have done well by undoing all Malthouse's changes - I think we'll see all the remaining recruits go through attrition (i.e. Daisy etc.)
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Mat0369 on October 25, 2016, 10:25:18 PM
Daisy and Jones hopefully come of the books at the end of this coming season. I'm pretty sure the pick we traded for Liam Jones became Caleb Daniel
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: PowerBug on October 25, 2016, 10:29:01 PM
Quote from: Mat0369 on October 25, 2016, 10:25:18 PM
Daisy and Jones hopefully come of the books at the end of this coming season. I'm pretty sure the pick we traded for Liam Jones became Caleb Daniel
After a quick check: Jones for Pick 46. Pick 46 = Caleb Daniel :o
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: elephants on October 25, 2016, 10:53:16 PM
Quote from: tbagrocks on October 25, 2016, 07:50:37 PM
So Paul Stewart has retired, one of the most underrated footballers I have ever seen!

Really cant quite figure out why he wasn't in the starting 22 every week! fantastic utility either end ???

Think fantastic is a pretty big stretch but he was a worker.

Quote from: PowerBug on October 25, 2016, 10:29:01 PM
Quote from: Mat0369 on October 25, 2016, 10:25:18 PM
Daisy and Jones hopefully come of the books at the end of this coming season. I'm pretty sure the pick we traded for Liam Jones became Caleb Daniel
After a quick check: Jones for Pick 46. Pick 46 = Caleb Daniel :o

Ahhhh showere! Poor Carlton
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Bill Manspeaker on October 25, 2016, 10:55:58 PM
Quote from: elephants on October 25, 2016, 10:53:16 PM
Quote from: tbagrocks on October 25, 2016, 07:50:37 PM
So Paul Stewart has retired, one of the most underrated footballers I have ever seen!

Really cant quite figure out why he wasn't in the starting 22 every week! fantastic utility either end ???

Think fantastic is a pretty big stretch but he was a worker.

Quote from: PowerBug on October 25, 2016, 10:29:01 PM
Quote from: Mat0369 on October 25, 2016, 10:25:18 PM
Daisy and Jones hopefully come of the books at the end of this coming season. I'm pretty sure the pick we traded for Liam Jones became Caleb Daniel
After a quick check: Jones for Pick 46. Pick 46 = Caleb Daniel :o

Ahhhh showere! Poor Carlton
the full forward they traded to you is going okay too :P
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: elephants on October 25, 2016, 10:56:42 PM
Quote from: Bill Manspeaker on October 25, 2016, 10:55:58 PM
Quote from: elephants on October 25, 2016, 10:53:16 PM
Quote from: tbagrocks on October 25, 2016, 07:50:37 PM
So Paul Stewart has retired, one of the most underrated footballers I have ever seen!

Really cant quite figure out why he wasn't in the starting 22 every week! fantastic utility either end ???

Think fantastic is a pretty big stretch but he was a worker.

Quote from: PowerBug on October 25, 2016, 10:29:01 PM
Quote from: Mat0369 on October 25, 2016, 10:25:18 PM
Daisy and Jones hopefully come of the books at the end of this coming season. I'm pretty sure the pick we traded for Liam Jones became Caleb Daniel
After a quick check: Jones for Pick 46. Pick 46 = Caleb Daniel :o

Ahhhh showere! Poor Carlton
the full forward they traded to you is going okay too :P

If only we didn't blow the Masten pick :P
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: RaisyDaisy on October 25, 2016, 11:06:28 PM
http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/afl-admits-to-making-a-mistake-in-the-massive-trade-which-sent-jaeger-omeara-to-hawthorn/news-story/e5b34107a511d81bcae89b09cf81669e
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: iZander on October 25, 2016, 11:09:10 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on October 25, 2016, 11:06:28 PM
http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/afl-admits-to-making-a-mistake-in-the-massive-trade-which-sent-jaeger-omeara-to-hawthorn/news-story/e5b34107a511d81bcae89b09cf81669e
Wanna tell us the gist of it as that is a "premium" article :P
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: RaisyDaisy on October 25, 2016, 11:13:24 PM
THE AFL’S RULE

“Should a club trade its future first round selection, it may not trade any other future selection for that same draft.”

WHAT HAPPENED

â€" Hawthorn traded its future first-round selection to St Kilda on October 14

â€" AFL paperwork after trade period stated Hawthorn on-traded Greater Western Sydney’s future second-round selection to Gold Coast in O’Meara deal

â€" Hawthorn and Gold Coast informed supporters that the deal instead involved the Hawks’ future second-round selection

â€" AFL yesterday said its paperwork was wrong, and Hawks traded their own future second-round selection to Gold Coast, as the clubs stated

AFL’S EXPLANATION

“They traded in the GWS future round two selection first, which meant they had a selection in the round that they could trade out, and they elected to trade out their selection, and keep the GWS selection.

“The AFL has interpreted the rule as that they had to retain a round two and round three selection, after trading out round one, so they had to trade in a round two before they were allowed to trade out a round two.”
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: PowerBug on October 25, 2016, 11:19:07 PM
I think that's fair enough tbh

Any news on why Geelong have been allowed to tilt and trade out all their first round picks?
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Nige on October 25, 2016, 11:26:08 PM
Quote from: PowerBug on October 25, 2016, 11:19:07 PM
I think that's fair enough tbh

Any news on why Geelong have been allowed to tilt and trade out all their first round picks?
There was an article on the AFL site about it somewhere, popped up on my FB news feed a week or so ago.

Edit: Found it. http://www.afl.com.au/news/2016-10-19/cats-set-to-nab-irish-blue-utility-to-head-the-other-way

QuoteThe Cats had to apply to the AFL for permission to trade their future first-round selection during this year's NAB AFL Trade Period, as they had already traded this year's first-round pick as part of the 2015 deal that landed ex-Carlton defender Lachie Henderson.

Under the rules, clubs are restricted in their trading of future first-round picks to ensure they make two first round selections at the NAB AFL Draft within a four-year period.

However, clubs were reminded the AFL would consider applications to vary the requirements.

So it looks like since they traded their 2016 and 2017 first round selections, they'll have to use their 2018 and 2019 picks. Although, I assume they'd probably be able to acquire another first round pick in 2018, use that and then trade the 2019 pick.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: iZander on October 25, 2016, 11:29:55 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on October 25, 2016, 11:13:24 PM
THE AFL’S RULE

“Should a club trade its future first round selection, it may not trade any other future selection for that same draft.”

WHAT HAPPENED

â€" Hawthorn traded its future first-round selection to St Kilda on October 14

â€" AFL paperwork after trade period stated Hawthorn on-traded Greater Western Sydney’s future second-round selection to Gold Coast in O’Meara deal

â€" Hawthorn and Gold Coast informed supporters that the deal instead involved the Hawks’ future second-round selection

â€" AFL yesterday said its paperwork was wrong, and Hawks traded their own future second-round selection to Gold Coast, as the clubs stated

AFL’S EXPLANATION

“They traded in the GWS future round two selection first, which meant they had a selection in the round that they could trade out, and they elected to trade out their selection, and keep the GWS selection.

“The AFL has interpreted the rule as that they had to retain a round two and round three selection, after trading out round one, so they had to trade in a round two before they were allowed to trade out a round two.”

Thanks :P
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Mat0369 on October 26, 2016, 01:10:11 AM
Quote from: Bill Manspeaker on October 25, 2016, 10:55:58 PM
the full forward they traded to you is going okay too :P

Pagan used to play him in the ruck. I wish I was kidding.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: RaisyDaisy on October 26, 2016, 11:34:14 AM
Geelong have delisted Luxford
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Scrads on October 26, 2016, 12:18:35 PM
Quote from: Nige on October 25, 2016, 11:26:08 PM
Quote from: PowerBug on October 25, 2016, 11:19:07 PM
I think that's fair enough tbh

Any news on why Geelong have been allowed to tilt and trade out all their first round picks?
There was an article on the AFL site about it somewhere, popped up on my FB news feed a week or so ago.

Edit: Found it. http://www.afl.com.au/news/2016-10-19/cats-set-to-nab-irish-blue-utility-to-head-the-other-way

QuoteThe Cats had to apply to the AFL for permission to trade their future first-round selection during this year's NAB AFL Trade Period, as they had already traded this year's first-round pick as part of the 2015 deal that landed ex-Carlton defender Lachie Henderson.

Under the rules, clubs are restricted in their trading of future first-round picks to ensure they make two first round selections at the NAB AFL Draft within a four-year period.

However, clubs were reminded the AFL would consider applications to vary the requirements.

So it looks like since they traded their 2016 and 2017 first round selections, they'll have to use their 2018 and 2019 picks. Although, I assume they'd probably be able to acquire another first round pick in 2018, use that and then trade the 2019 pick.

They also traded their 2015 pick for Dangerfield. So that's no first round picks for 2015, 2016 and 2017 (currently). I think this means they'll HAVE to trade in a first round selection either in 2017 or 2018 to ensure they have 2 first round picks in the 4 year period 2015-18 (the one they trade in and their 2018 one).
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: PowerBug on October 26, 2016, 01:20:54 PM
Quote from: Scrads on October 26, 2016, 12:18:35 PM
They also traded their 2015 pick for Dangerfield. So that's no first round picks for 2015, 2016 and 2017 (currently). I think this means they'll HAVE to trade in a first round selection either in 2017 or 2018 to ensure they have 2 first round picks in the 4 year period 2015-18 (the one they trade in and their 2018 one).
But this is where it's wrong. What if they don't trade for one next year? $1,000,000 fine? 4 points taken off their ladder for the 2018 season? Has to be a proper punishment if teams are allowed to trade out the future on the promise that they will trade one back in the next year.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: elephants on October 26, 2016, 01:25:43 PM
Quote from: PowerBug on October 26, 2016, 01:20:54 PM
Quote from: Scrads on October 26, 2016, 12:18:35 PM
They also traded their 2015 pick for Dangerfield. So that's no first round picks for 2015, 2016 and 2017 (currently). I think this means they'll HAVE to trade in a first round selection either in 2017 or 2018 to ensure they have 2 first round picks in the 4 year period 2015-18 (the one they trade in and their 2018 one).
But this is where it's wrong. What if they don't trade for one next year? $1,000,000 fine? 4 points taken off their ladder for the 2018 season? Has to be a proper punishment if teams are allowed to trade out the future on the promise that they will trade one back in the next year.

Agreed, honestly the penalty should be massive (like you said) so that teams are almost forced to pre-plan trades a year in advance.

Honestly the entire league could just screw Geelong next year not give them a first rounder, or alternatively, make them pay massive overs for one.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: jvalles69 on October 26, 2016, 01:35:52 PM
Quote“I kind of knew that (being traded was a possibility) going into the off-season, so it definitely wasn’t a surprise and there’s no hard feelings â€" it’s just the way it goes,” Bogut said.
“So I think the AFL’s probably going to end up being similar to the NBA I reckon just because, albeit disappointing when you do get traded and you’ve got to kind of pack a bag and go to the next city, at the same time what’s happening in the AFL’s not fair to the clubs either.
“The players can kind of pick and choose where they want to go and demand to be traded somewhere (and) that’s not fair either.
“So there’ll be some common ground I’m guessing in the next couple of years with their CBA and all that.”

Bogut's take on the trade period.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: RaisyDaisy on October 26, 2016, 01:53:01 PM
Tippett and McKenzie delisted by Norf

McKenzie played 14 games this year so seems a little stiff imo
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: elephants on October 26, 2016, 01:53:58 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on October 26, 2016, 01:53:01 PM
Tippett and McKenzie delisted by Norf

McKenzie played 14 games this year so seems a little stiff imo

Pick 18 back in 2011, spose for a 23 year old he's shown little though
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Holz on October 26, 2016, 03:02:31 PM
Quote from: elephants on October 26, 2016, 01:25:43 PM
Quote from: PowerBug on October 26, 2016, 01:20:54 PM
Quote from: Scrads on October 26, 2016, 12:18:35 PM
They also traded their 2015 pick for Dangerfield. So that's no first round picks for 2015, 2016 and 2017 (currently). I think this means they'll HAVE to trade in a first round selection either in 2017 or 2018 to ensure they have 2 first round picks in the 4 year period 2015-18 (the one they trade in and their 2018 one).
But this is where it's wrong. What if they don't trade for one next year? $1,000,000 fine? 4 points taken off their ladder for the 2018 season? Has to be a proper punishment if teams are allowed to trade out the future on the promise that they will trade one back in the next year.

Agreed, honestly the penalty should be massive (like you said) so that teams are almost forced to pre-plan trades a year in advance.

Honestly the entire league could just screw Geelong next year not give them a first rounder, or alternatively, make them pay massive overs for one.

the teams should hold out but the thing is it requires every team to do so, even if geelong paying just a lift over then some team will jump on it because if they dont another team will.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Rusty00 on October 26, 2016, 03:19:41 PM
Quote from: elephants on October 26, 2016, 01:53:58 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on October 26, 2016, 01:53:01 PM
Tippett and McKenzie delisted by Norf

McKenzie played 14 games this year so seems a little stiff imo

Pick 18 back in 2011, spose for a 23 year old he's shown little though
News Limited had him in North's 2017 Best 22 :P
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Bill Manspeaker on October 26, 2016, 03:25:50 PM
   ?? .     

o.h. l.o.o.k. t.h.e. s.e.n.t.e.n.c.e. d.i.d.n.t s.h.o.w. u.p.

g.r.a.b.b.i.n. o.t.h.e.r p.h.o.n.e.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Bill Manspeaker on October 26, 2016, 03:28:37 PM
take 2

as in Brad McKenzie?? that's crazy. I'd take him at the Saints
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: RaisyDaisy on October 26, 2016, 05:52:05 PM
Dons have delisted Kommer and Eades
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: TomK on October 26, 2016, 07:14:40 PM
Sam McClure ‏@sam_mcclure  8m8 minutes ago
Gary Ablett went to the Gold Coast Suns at the start of the Trade Period and asked to be traded back to Geelong.

Suns said no.

:o :o :o :o :o :o

Quote from: RaisyDaisy on October 26, 2016, 05:52:05 PM
Dons have delisted Kommer and Eades
Favourite Kommer memory

(http://stream1.gifsoup.com/view5/4656327/taylor-walker-fend-off-o.gif)
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: kilbluff1985 on October 26, 2016, 07:33:05 PM
how long left on GAJ contract
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Pkbaldy on October 26, 2016, 07:35:23 PM
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on October 26, 2016, 07:33:05 PM
how long left on GAJ contract

Contract Status: RFA at the end of 2018
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: AaronKirk on October 26, 2016, 07:48:42 PM
Bill Brownless said that on the rush hour a couple of weeks ago about Ablett.

Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: RaisyDaisy on October 26, 2016, 07:58:53 PM
http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/gold-coast-captain-gary-ablett-asked-to-be-traded-to-geelong/news-story/a2199232f48b1072ad8d0a1cb97d84e4
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: PowerBug on October 26, 2016, 08:16:00 PM
Alex Silvagni delisted! ???
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Mat0369 on October 26, 2016, 08:19:11 PM
Quote from: PowerBug on October 26, 2016, 08:16:00 PM
Alex Silvagni delisted! ???

Not that we should go after him, but it would be fun to have a Silvagni at either end with Silvagni running our list management.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Mat0369 on October 26, 2016, 08:35:50 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on October 26, 2016, 07:58:53 PM
http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/gold-coast-captain-gary-ablett-asked-to-be-traded-to-geelong/news-story/a2199232f48b1072ad8d0a1cb97d84e4

That is nuts! Imagine if Gold Coast lost O'Meara, Prestia and Gaz all in one off-season? They would almost have to shut up shop, try selling that in the market they're in.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: RaisyDaisy on October 27, 2016, 04:49:26 PM
Sydney has delisted X Richards, Hiscox and Davis
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Gandalf123 on October 27, 2016, 04:53:32 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on October 27, 2016, 04:49:26 PM
Sydney has delisted X Richards, Hiscox and Davis
Lol cop that Richards
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Bill Manspeaker on October 27, 2016, 05:37:23 PM
fair enough delisting Richards, but did they really have to chop his cox too. little over the top imo
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Scrads on October 27, 2016, 05:40:52 PM
Quote from: elephants on October 26, 2016, 01:25:43 PM
Quote from: PowerBug on October 26, 2016, 01:20:54 PM
Quote from: Scrads on October 26, 2016, 12:18:35 PM
They also traded their 2015 pick for Dangerfield. So that's no first round picks for 2015, 2016 and 2017 (currently). I think this means they'll HAVE to trade in a first round selection either in 2017 or 2018 to ensure they have 2 first round picks in the 4 year period 2015-18 (the one they trade in and their 2018 one).
But this is where it's wrong. What if they don't trade for one next year? $1,000,000 fine? 4 points taken off their ladder for the 2018 season? Has to be a proper punishment if teams are allowed to trade out the future on the promise that they will trade one back in the next year.

Agreed, honestly the penalty should be massive (like you said) so that teams are almost forced to pre-plan trades a year in advance.

Honestly the entire league could just screw Geelong next year not give them a first rounder, or alternatively, make them pay massive overs for one.

Pretty sure the punishment is loss of future first round picks hahaha. A bit ironic that the punishment is the same thing as the crime :P
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: SydneyRox on October 27, 2016, 06:15:36 PM
Quote from: Gandalf123 on October 27, 2016, 04:53:32 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on October 27, 2016, 04:49:26 PM
Sydney has delisted X Richards, Hiscox and Davis
Lol cop that Richards

You would think he is on a promise from someone to get him in the PSD otherwise he would sign something

Hopefully Reid comes good next year
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Nige on October 27, 2016, 06:59:46 PM
Nick Malceski retired.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: shaker on October 27, 2016, 07:39:31 PM
Quote from: SydneyRox on October 27, 2016, 06:15:36 PM
Quote from: Gandalf123 on October 27, 2016, 04:53:32 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on October 27, 2016, 04:49:26 PM
Sydney has delisted X Richards, Hiscox and Davis
Lol cop that Richards

You would think he is on a promise from someone to get him in the PSD otherwise he would sign something

Hopefully Reid comes good next year

Haha Reid come good apart from the Brown Bro's the Reid boys have to be the most injury prone players to play the game must be in the genes of both pairs of siblings
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: GoLions on October 28, 2016, 02:00:52 PM
Hawks have delisted:
- Matt Spangher
- Jack Fitzpatrick
- Angus Litherland
- Zac Webster
- Lachlan Langford
- Shem Tatupu
- Alex Woodward
- Jermaine Miller-Lewis
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: GoLions on October 28, 2016, 02:06:57 PM
Corey Gault retired
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Jukes on October 28, 2016, 02:55:12 PM
Delisting Fitzpatrick is worse than trading Mitch and Lewis
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: RaisyDaisy on October 28, 2016, 03:17:00 PM
Fitzy a little surprising with Ceglar out for 12 months

Litherland should get picked up by another club
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Mat0369 on October 28, 2016, 03:44:24 PM
Bolton raved about him in the famous press conference when he was Hawks coach. It would make sense for us
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Bill Manspeaker on October 28, 2016, 03:52:10 PM
Shenton, Murdoch, Lee and Templeton have been delisted

spewin on Eli. never should've cut the dreads
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: RaisyDaisy on October 28, 2016, 04:44:37 PM
Dempsey, Will Hams and Gach Nyuon delisted

Keegan Brooksby, Clay Cameron, Henry Schade and Cameron Loersch gone too
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Purple 77 on October 28, 2016, 05:02:34 PM
Clay Cameron?

Damn, that's harsh IMO.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: RaisyDaisy on October 28, 2016, 05:29:21 PM
Tiges delisted Andrew Moore
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: shaker on October 28, 2016, 05:34:58 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on October 28, 2016, 05:29:21 PM
Tiges delisted Andrew Moore

After just one year things are changing at Punt Rd
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Levi434 on October 28, 2016, 06:02:52 PM
Quote from: Purple 77 on October 28, 2016, 05:02:34 PM
Clay Cameron?

Damn, that's harsh IMO.

Yep wrong move from GC there I recon.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Nige on October 28, 2016, 06:04:09 PM
Quote from: shaker on October 28, 2016, 05:34:58 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on October 28, 2016, 05:29:21 PM
Tiges delisted Andrew Moore

After just one year things are changing at Punt Rd
Did only have a one year contract though and definitely didn't do enough to get a new one, not to mention Caddy and Prestia are gonna further decrease any chance he would have had of getting a game.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: iZander on October 28, 2016, 06:04:36 PM
Quote from: Levi434 on October 28, 2016, 06:02:52 PM
Quote from: Purple 77 on October 28, 2016, 05:02:34 PM
Clay Cameron?

Damn, that's harsh IMO.

Yep wrong move from GC there I recon.

Its strange, GC dont seem to make many bad moves...
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Ringo on October 28, 2016, 06:17:32 PM
Quote from: iZander on October 28, 2016, 06:04:36 PM
Quote from: Levi434 on October 28, 2016, 06:02:52 PM
Quote from: Purple 77 on October 28, 2016, 05:02:34 PM
Clay Cameron?

Damn, that's harsh IMO.

Yep wrong move from GC there I recon.

Its strange, GC dont seem to make many bad moves...
He is a Qlder and with our defense problems do we pick him up. He was originally with the Lions academy prior to Suns picking him up. At 191cm good for third defender.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Levi434 on October 28, 2016, 06:28:04 PM
Quote from: Ringo on October 28, 2016, 06:17:32 PM
Quote from: iZander on October 28, 2016, 06:04:36 PM
Quote from: Levi434 on October 28, 2016, 06:02:52 PM
Quote from: Purple 77 on October 28, 2016, 05:02:34 PM
Clay Cameron?

Damn, that's harsh IMO.

Yep wrong move from GC there I recon.

Its strange, GC dont seem to make many bad moves...
He is a Qlder and with our defense problems do we pick him up. He was originally with the Lions academy prior to Suns picking him up. At 191cm good for third defender.

I actually think he is a better forward than back. Thought his best games were playing as a mid-sized forward. But obviously has a bit to offer with his versatility.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: RaisyDaisy on October 28, 2016, 06:37:33 PM
Everything with this footage is great, and this version gave me some laughs too

https://youtu.be/cueSVslcyhw
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: GoLions on October 28, 2016, 06:45:43 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on October 28, 2016, 06:37:33 PM
Everything with this footage is great, and this version gave me some laughs too

https://youtu.be/cueSVslcyhw
That's flowerin hilarious hahaha ;D
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: kilbluff1985 on October 28, 2016, 07:57:28 PM
it's funny but that guys laugh is so annoying
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: PowerBug on October 28, 2016, 08:02:41 PM
So good! :D
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: RaisyDaisy on October 28, 2016, 11:07:55 PM
I've watched it 3 times now and still laugh as much as I did the first time

The bit about having to give up Caddy so they could get Tuohy the superstar and giving a first rounder is the best lol

Getting the pick from GWS in the end anyway

"Particularly with the 3rd round pick upgrade"

All gold!
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: PowerBug on October 28, 2016, 11:21:33 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on October 28, 2016, 11:07:55 PM
I've watched it 3 times now and still laugh as much as I did the first time

The bit about having to give up Caddy so they could get Tuohy the superstar and giving a first rounder is the best lol

Getting the pick from GWS in the end anyway

"Particularly with the 3rd round pick upgrade"

All gold!
You know those "I bet you'll laugh videos" that aren't even funny? This thing is better than all those :P
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Football Factory on October 29, 2016, 03:01:13 PM
There was a trade 2-5 ? years ago where they made the same video, cant remember the trade and cant find the video .. that was pretty bloody funny, didn't get me as much this time around.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Mat0369 on October 30, 2016, 02:16:13 AM
There is an article on the AFL website today saying that Gaz may revisit the trade request at the end of next season if GC still suck. Hypothetically lets say he wants to make the switch and his season next year is very similar to this year, what is he actually worth in a trade?
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: powersuperkents on October 30, 2016, 10:37:51 AM
Quote from: Mat0369 on October 30, 2016, 02:16:13 AM
There is an article on the AFL website today saying that Gaz may revisit the trade request at the end of next season if GC still suck. Hypothetically lets say he wants to make the switch and his season next year is very similar to this year, what is he actually worth in a trade?
To other clubs - a second rounder or a place filling player

To Geelong... like any player they target... A Future First Rounder  :P
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: nas on October 30, 2016, 10:44:41 AM
Cam O'Shea just been delisted.

http://www.afl.com.au/news/2016-10-30/port-adelaide-delists-defender-cam-oshea-after-six-seasons
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Big Mac on October 30, 2016, 11:51:53 AM
Quote from: Mat0369 on October 30, 2016, 02:16:13 AM
There is an article on the AFL website today saying that Gaz may revisit the trade request at the end of next season if GC still suck. Hypothetically lets say he wants to make the switch and his season next year is very similar to this year, what is he actually worth in a trade?

Peanuts imo, a 3rd round pick upgrade maybe
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Rusty00 on October 31, 2016, 03:31:28 PM
Henderson and Grigg delisted by the Crows. Would have to think both are reasonable chances of being picked up by someone else.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Mat0369 on October 31, 2016, 07:24:38 PM
Quote from: Big  Mac on October 30, 2016, 11:51:53 AM
Peanuts imo, a 3rd round pick upgrade maybe

Considering what Lewis and Mitchell went for I think this is about right, I reckon GC will be asking for a future first though and will likely get close to it.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: shaker on October 31, 2016, 07:33:43 PM
Quote from: Mat0369 on October 31, 2016, 07:24:38 PM
Quote from: Big  Mac on October 30, 2016, 11:51:53 AM
Peanuts imo, a 3rd round pick upgrade maybe

Considering what Lewis and Mitchell went for I think this is about right, I reckon GC will be asking for a future first though and will likely get close to it.

At 33 next year so 34 if he were to get home can't see them getting much at all for him , don't really see how that is in the Cats best interests at all sad to say but we have well and truly seen the best of Gaz
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: tbagrocks on October 31, 2016, 08:55:24 PM
ANDREJS EVERITT I really think this unique footballer has some serious ability! I really want him to get picked up!

Lions could do worse right? :P
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: RaisyDaisy on November 01, 2016, 01:13:01 AM
Hawks are looking at getting Henderson
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Ricochet on November 08, 2016, 01:17:25 PM
http://www.goldcoastfc.com.au/news/2016-11-08/jarrod-garlett-released-from-contract

QuoteThe Gold Coast SUNS have agreed to release Jarrod Garlett from his playing contract ahead of tomorrow’s List Lodgement (2) deadline.

The club had been working closely with Garlett in recent times and early last week Garlett requested the club release him from his contract to allow him to return home to Western Australia to deal with a private family matter.

General Manager - Football Operations, Marcus Ashcroft said the change in family circumstances led to the Garlett’s contract release.

"Our player development team and wider support network has been working with Jarrod for some time to assist him in adjusting into life away from his family," Ashcroft said.

"In the midst of this, a significant change in circumstances with his family back in Western Australia led to Jarrod making the decision it was in his, and his family’s best interests to be released from his contract."

"We continue to work with Jarrod and his management to ensure Jarrod's transition into life away from the AFL is as smooth as possible and we wish him and his family all the very best in the future."

Garlett, who played 17 games in his first two seasons with the club, signed a two-year contract extension in August. As a result of his release he will be unable to play AFL during this time.

But if he's released from his contract??
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Holz on November 08, 2016, 02:25:06 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on November 08, 2016, 01:17:25 PM
http://www.goldcoastfc.com.au/news/2016-11-08/jarrod-garlett-released-from-contract

QuoteThe Gold Coast SUNS have agreed to release Jarrod Garlett from his playing contract ahead of tomorrow’s List Lodgement (2) deadline.

The club had been working closely with Garlett in recent times and early last week Garlett requested the club release him from his contract to allow him to return home to Western Australia to deal with a private family matter.

General Manager - Football Operations, Marcus Ashcroft said the change in family circumstances led to the Garlett’s contract release.

"Our player development team and wider support network has been working with Jarrod for some time to assist him in adjusting into life away from his family," Ashcroft said.

"In the midst of this, a significant change in circumstances with his family back in Western Australia led to Jarrod making the decision it was in his, and his family’s best interests to be released from his contract."

"We continue to work with Jarrod and his management to ensure Jarrod's transition into life away from the AFL is as smooth as possible and we wish him and his family all the very best in the future."

Garlett, who played 17 games in his first two seasons with the club, signed a two-year contract extension in August. As a result of his release he will be unable to play AFL during this time.

But if he's released from his contract??

surely there must be a rule if you break a contract you cant play.

If not gibbs should just say he has personal reasons and couldnt play AFL any more.

then break contract and 2 weeks later, oohh im all good again draft me Adelaide.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: jvalles69 on November 08, 2016, 02:32:36 PM
Quote from: Holz on November 08, 2016, 02:25:06 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on November 08, 2016, 01:17:25 PM
http://www.goldcoastfc.com.au/news/2016-11-08/jarrod-garlett-released-from-contract

QuoteThe Gold Coast SUNS have agreed to release Jarrod Garlett from his playing contract ahead of tomorrow’s List Lodgement (2) deadline.

The club had been working closely with Garlett in recent times and early last week Garlett requested the club release him from his contract to allow him to return home to Western Australia to deal with a private family matter.

General Manager - Football Operations, Marcus Ashcroft said the change in family circumstances led to the Garlett’s contract release.

"Our player development team and wider support network has been working with Jarrod for some time to assist him in adjusting into life away from his family," Ashcroft said.

"In the midst of this, a significant change in circumstances with his family back in Western Australia led to Jarrod making the decision it was in his, and his family’s best interests to be released from his contract."

"We continue to work with Jarrod and his management to ensure Jarrod's transition into life away from the AFL is as smooth as possible and we wish him and his family all the very best in the future."

Garlett, who played 17 games in his first two seasons with the club, signed a two-year contract extension in August. As a result of his release he will be unable to play AFL during this time.

But if he's released from his contract??

surely there must be a rule if you break a contract you cant play.

If not gibbs should just say he has personal reasons and couldnt play AFL any more.

then break contract and 2 weeks later, oohh im all good again draft me Adelaide.

Same reason why McCarthy couldn't play or train with Freo.  Isn't this Garlett one of the ones that has his head screwed on right?  Must be serious cos I remember he distanced himself from the dodgy members of his family so he could focus on footy.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Ricochet on November 08, 2016, 02:38:30 PM
Quote from: jvalles69 on November 08, 2016, 02:32:36 PM
Quote from: Holz on November 08, 2016, 02:25:06 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on November 08, 2016, 01:17:25 PM
http://www.goldcoastfc.com.au/news/2016-11-08/jarrod-garlett-released-from-contract

QuoteThe Gold Coast SUNS have agreed to release Jarrod Garlett from his playing contract ahead of tomorrow’s List Lodgement (2) deadline.

The club had been working closely with Garlett in recent times and early last week Garlett requested the club release him from his contract to allow him to return home to Western Australia to deal with a private family matter.

General Manager - Football Operations, Marcus Ashcroft said the change in family circumstances led to the Garlett’s contract release.

"Our player development team and wider support network has been working with Jarrod for some time to assist him in adjusting into life away from his family," Ashcroft said.

"In the midst of this, a significant change in circumstances with his family back in Western Australia led to Jarrod making the decision it was in his, and his family’s best interests to be released from his contract."

"We continue to work with Jarrod and his management to ensure Jarrod's transition into life away from the AFL is as smooth as possible and we wish him and his family all the very best in the future."

Garlett, who played 17 games in his first two seasons with the club, signed a two-year contract extension in August. As a result of his release he will be unable to play AFL during this time.

But if he's released from his contract??

surely there must be a rule if you break a contract you cant play.

If not gibbs should just say he has personal reasons and couldnt play AFL any more.

then break contract and 2 weeks later, oohh im all good again draft me Adelaide.

Same reason why McCarthy couldn't play or train with Freo.  Isn't this Garlett one of the ones that has his head screwed on right?  Must be serious cos I remember he distanced himself from the dodgy members of his family so he could focus on footy.
McCarthy was still contracted while he was in WA though.

and not 100% man. Pretty sure Jeff was the one that used over east to escape from a few things here though
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Purple 77 on November 08, 2016, 02:41:31 PM
Quote from: Holz on November 08, 2016, 02:25:06 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on November 08, 2016, 01:17:25 PM
http://www.goldcoastfc.com.au/news/2016-11-08/jarrod-garlett-released-from-contract

QuoteThe Gold Coast SUNS have agreed to release Jarrod Garlett from his playing contract ahead of tomorrow’s List Lodgement (2) deadline.

The club had been working closely with Garlett in recent times and early last week Garlett requested the club release him from his contract to allow him to return home to Western Australia to deal with a private family matter.

General Manager - Football Operations, Marcus Ashcroft said the change in family circumstances led to the Garlett’s contract release.

"Our player development team and wider support network has been working with Jarrod for some time to assist him in adjusting into life away from his family," Ashcroft said.

"In the midst of this, a significant change in circumstances with his family back in Western Australia led to Jarrod making the decision it was in his, and his family’s best interests to be released from his contract."

"We continue to work with Jarrod and his management to ensure Jarrod's transition into life away from the AFL is as smooth as possible and we wish him and his family all the very best in the future."

Garlett, who played 17 games in his first two seasons with the club, signed a two-year contract extension in August. As a result of his release he will be unable to play AFL during this time.

But if he's released from his contract??

surely there must be a rule if you break a contract you cant play.

If not gibbs should just say he has personal reasons and couldnt play AFL any more.

then break contract and 2 weeks later, oohh im all good again draft me Adelaide.

*ahem* Mitch Clark *ahem*

Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Nige on November 08, 2016, 02:54:49 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on November 08, 2016, 02:38:30 PM
Quote from: jvalles69 on November 08, 2016, 02:32:36 PM
Quote from: Holz on November 08, 2016, 02:25:06 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on November 08, 2016, 01:17:25 PM
http://www.goldcoastfc.com.au/news/2016-11-08/jarrod-garlett-released-from-contract

QuoteThe Gold Coast SUNS have agreed to release Jarrod Garlett from his playing contract ahead of tomorrow’s List Lodgement (2) deadline.

The club had been working closely with Garlett in recent times and early last week Garlett requested the club release him from his contract to allow him to return home to Western Australia to deal with a private family matter.

General Manager - Football Operations, Marcus Ashcroft said the change in family circumstances led to the Garlett’s contract release.

"Our player development team and wider support network has been working with Jarrod for some time to assist him in adjusting into life away from his family," Ashcroft said.

"In the midst of this, a significant change in circumstances with his family back in Western Australia led to Jarrod making the decision it was in his, and his family’s best interests to be released from his contract."

"We continue to work with Jarrod and his management to ensure Jarrod's transition into life away from the AFL is as smooth as possible and we wish him and his family all the very best in the future."

Garlett, who played 17 games in his first two seasons with the club, signed a two-year contract extension in August. As a result of his release he will be unable to play AFL during this time.

But if he's released from his contract??

surely there must be a rule if you break a contract you cant play.

If not gibbs should just say he has personal reasons and couldnt play AFL any more.

then break contract and 2 weeks later, oohh im all good again draft me Adelaide.

Same reason why McCarthy couldn't play or train with Freo.  Isn't this Garlett one of the ones that has his head screwed on right?  Must be serious cos I remember he distanced himself from the dodgy members of his family so he could focus on footy.
McCarthy was still contracted while he was in WA though.

and not 100% man. Pretty sure Jeff was the one that used over east to escape from a few things here though
I think Jarrod's fine, he's always been super talented and certainly showed a bit for the Suns, hopefully he comes back from this so he can properly showcase how good he can be.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Ricochet on November 08, 2016, 02:59:04 PM
Barlow to GC confirmed
and Henderson to Hawks also
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Ringo on November 08, 2016, 03:04:10 PM
Josh Green and Xavier Richards have had discussions with Bombers.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: RaisyDaisy on November 09, 2016, 11:44:00 AM
GC have backlipped on their Garlett decision

Initially he was not able to play for the next 2 years (His contract length) but they have changed, and he can now play on elsewhere if he chooses to do so
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Ricochet on November 09, 2016, 11:51:40 AM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on November 09, 2016, 11:44:00 AM
GC have backlipped on their Garlett decision

Initially he was not able to play for the next 2 years (His contract length) but they have changed, and he can now play on elsewhere if he chooses to do so
lol imagine the uproar if he goes to Freo
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Purple 77 on November 09, 2016, 12:54:27 PM
This really does paint a similar story to Mitch Clark :P
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Torpedo10 on November 09, 2016, 03:08:16 PM
Quote from: Purple 77 on November 09, 2016, 12:54:27 PM
This really does paint a similar story to Mitch Clark :P
Except this is being painted as a family issue, rather than one to do with himself.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: RaisyDaisy on November 09, 2016, 04:09:56 PM
Looking like Sam Shaw from Ade is going to retire due to concussions issues  :(
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Nige on November 09, 2016, 06:32:25 PM
Jaden McGrath and Jonathon Marsh both retired as well. McGrath stating he longer had the desire to play at the elite level and Marsh because of homesickness.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Ringo on November 09, 2016, 09:03:56 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on November 09, 2016, 11:51:40 AM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on November 09, 2016, 11:44:00 AM
GC have backlipped on their Garlett decision

Initially he was not able to play for the next 2 years (His contract length) but they have changed, and he can now play on elsewhere if he chooses to do so
lol imagine the uproar if he goes to Freo
Do not expect him to play this year though as the main reason a close family member has terminal cancer.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: RaisyDaisy on November 13, 2016, 11:06:15 AM
Everitt has retired
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: kilbluff1985 on November 14, 2016, 02:53:03 PM
It looks increasingly likely that Xavier Richards will join Essendon as a delisted free agent.

The former Swan has been spotted training with the Bombers at their Tullamarine base.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: iZander on November 14, 2016, 03:23:56 PM
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on November 14, 2016, 02:53:03 PM
It looks increasingly likely that Xavier Richards will join Essendon as a delisted free agent.

The former Swan has been spotted training with the Bombers at their Tullamarine base.

Think thats a good get tbh :P
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Nige on November 15, 2016, 02:56:05 PM
Josh Green signed with Essendon as a delisted free agent.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Mat0369 on November 15, 2016, 10:21:34 PM
Minnos going to the Pies
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: kilbluff1985 on November 18, 2016, 09:14:16 AM
GWS Giants sign Australian decathlon champion Jake Stein as Category B rookie
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: kilbluff1985 on November 18, 2016, 09:17:46 AM
did Minson sign with anyone btw
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: LF on November 18, 2016, 09:29:03 AM
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on November 18, 2016, 09:17:46 AM
did Minson sign with anyone btw

I heard the Pies are picking him up in the rook draft
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: meow meow on July 30, 2017, 09:21:24 AM
Lever to the Dogs
Tippett moving to free up cash
Dusty to swans for 10 years
Stringer going
Libba retiring
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Rusty00 on July 30, 2017, 09:42:38 AM
Quote from: meow meow on July 30, 2017, 09:21:24 AM
Lever to the Dogs
Tippett moving to free up cash
Dusty to swans for 10 years
Stringer going
Libba retiring from football to play in the upcoming Ashes series
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Nige on September 12, 2017, 08:18:49 PM
Are we using this thing again?
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: LF on September 12, 2017, 08:42:21 PM
Quote from: Nige on September 12, 2017, 08:18:49 PM
Are we using this thing again?

I could archive and you can start a new one it you want to
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Ringo on September 12, 2017, 08:45:49 PM
May  as well -

Obviously rumour mill in overdrive up here with Rocky. Believe the club will not go overboard to match offers and according which rumours you want to believe he has been linked with Adelaide, Port, Hawthorn and Richmond.

Charlie Cameron being mentioned as trade to Brisbane involving possibly Sam Mayes,

Other Rumours - Rory Thompson linked with Tigers.

Although Schache signed contract extension for 2 years still being linked to Tigers and Blues,

And of course no secret Gaz to retire or return to Cats.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Nige on September 12, 2017, 09:01:27 PM
Alex Fasolo apparently might go home to WA with the Eagles being the team to get him if so.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: fanTCfool on September 12, 2017, 09:11:15 PM
Jake Package to be shopped around other Victorian teams, Cats and Dons the leading parties.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Torpedo10 on September 12, 2017, 09:13:23 PM
Quote from: fanTCfool on September 12, 2017, 09:11:15 PM
Jake Package to be shopped around other Victorian teams, Cats and Dons the leading parties.
Uh Oh. Not really what the Dons need.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Jukes on September 12, 2017, 09:17:17 PM
Dons are getting Kelly lads

Source: me
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: nas on September 13, 2017, 09:28:10 PM
Quote from: Jukes on September 12, 2017, 09:17:17 PM
Dons are getting Kelly lads

Source: me

Apparently your source could be wrong! http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/afl-360s-gerard-whateley-reports-josh-kelly-has-resigned-with-gws-for-another-two-years/news-story/30dcd539eb2964cb9322069f1da80c72
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: shaker on September 14, 2017, 07:59:28 AM
Quote from: Jukes on September 12, 2017, 09:17:17 PM
Dons are getting Kelly lads

Source: me
Ha ha no your not , looking like Rockliff's value is going up let the bidding war begin
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Peter on September 15, 2017, 07:23:55 AM
This season to be the lowest number of trades - my tip
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Ringo on September 15, 2017, 10:38:45 AM
Carlton latest club to be connected with Tom Rockliff who welcomed a baby bay yesterday. Father/Son selection 2034 if they still exist.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: JBs-Hawks on September 15, 2017, 07:43:42 PM
Quote from: Ringo on September 15, 2017, 10:38:45 AM
Carlton latest club to be connected with Tom Rockliff who welcomed a baby bay yesterday. Father/Son selection 2034 if they still exist.

Father/Son for his next club, who would chose Brisbane :P
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Ringo on September 15, 2017, 07:45:14 PM
Quote from: JBs-Hawks on September 15, 2017, 07:43:42 PM
Quote from: Ringo on September 15, 2017, 10:38:45 AM
Carlton latest club to be connected with Tom Rockliff who welcomed a baby bay yesterday. Father/Son selection 2034 if they still exist.

Father/Son for his next club, who would chose Brisbane :P
He will when we beat the Hawks in the 2033 GF.  :D
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Ringo on September 15, 2017, 08:24:33 PM
Rumours up her that up to 10 Suns players could request trades. Senior players reported to be tradeable Trent McKenzie, Brandon Matera, Jesse Lonergan and Matt Shaw. Matt Shaw has reportedly met with Carlton this week.

Also confirmed that Suns have approached Ken Hinkleys Management about interest in coaching job.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: nas on September 15, 2017, 08:36:27 PM
Quote from: Ringo on September 15, 2017, 08:24:33 PM
Rumours up her that up to 10 Suns players could request trades. Senior players reported to be tradeable Trent McKenzie, Brandon Matera, Jesse Lonergan and Matt Shaw. Matt Shaw has reportedly met with Carlton this week.

Also confirmed that Suns have approached Ken Hinkleys Management about interest in coaching job.

Hope Hinkley stays at Port
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Purple 77 on September 15, 2017, 09:52:27 PM
Quote from: Ringo on September 15, 2017, 08:24:33 PM
Rumours up her that up to 10 Suns players could request trades. Senior players reported to be tradeable Trent McKenzie, Brandon Matera, Jesse Lonergan and Matt Shaw. Matt Shaw has reportedly met with Carlton this week.

Jeez, what a mess. Heard Adam Saad is gettable too.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: JBs-Hawks on September 15, 2017, 09:55:10 PM
Quote from: Purple 77 on September 15, 2017, 09:52:27 PM
Quote from: Ringo on September 15, 2017, 08:24:33 PM
Rumours up her that up to 10 Suns players could request trades. Senior players reported to be tradeable Trent McKenzie, Brandon Matera, Jesse Lonergan and Matt Shaw. Matt Shaw has reportedly met with Carlton this week.

Jeez, what a mess. Heard Adam Saad is gettable too.
Of those 4, Matera the only loss
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: elephants on September 16, 2017, 02:18:46 PM
Quote from: JBs-Hawks on September 15, 2017, 09:55:10 PM
Quote from: Purple 77 on September 15, 2017, 09:52:27 PM
Quote from: Ringo on September 15, 2017, 08:24:33 PM
Rumours up her that up to 10 Suns players could request trades. Senior players reported to be tradeable Trent McKenzie, Brandon Matera, Jesse Lonergan and Matt Shaw. Matt Shaw has reportedly met with Carlton this week.

Jeez, what a mess. Heard Adam Saad is gettable too.
Of those 4, Matera the only loss

McKenzie could be good, just needs to get his body and mind right. A trade is the best thing for him imo
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: powersuperkents on September 16, 2017, 05:38:07 PM
Quote from: elephants on September 16, 2017, 02:18:46 PM
Quote from: JBs-Hawks on September 15, 2017, 09:55:10 PM
Quote from: Purple 77 on September 15, 2017, 09:52:27 PM
Quote from: Ringo on September 15, 2017, 08:24:33 PM
Rumours up her that up to 10 Suns players could request trades. Senior players reported to be tradeable Trent McKenzie, Brandon Matera, Jesse Lonergan and Matt Shaw. Matt Shaw has reportedly met with Carlton this week.

Jeez, what a mess. Heard Adam Saad is gettable too.
Of those 4, Matera the only loss

McKenzie could be good, just needs to get his body and mind right. A trade is the best thing for him imo
+1

He was a gun defender in 2013. I think he could potentially play a high half-forward role as well (if a coach wants to get creative).
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Purple 77 on September 16, 2017, 09:55:10 PM
Demonland getting excited about apparent Gaff rumours, FWIW, which is probably nothing :P
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: RaisyDaisy on September 16, 2017, 10:22:42 PM
Quote from: Purple 77 on September 16, 2017, 09:55:10 PM
Demonland getting excited about apparent Gaff rumours, FWIW, which is probably nothing :P

Pretty sure he signed on within the last 12 months or so

He isn't going anywhere ;)
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Ringo on September 16, 2017, 10:43:56 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on September 16, 2017, 10:22:42 PM
Quote from: Purple 77 on September 16, 2017, 09:55:10 PM
Demonland getting excited about apparent Gaff rumours, FWIW, which is probably nothing :P

Pretty sure he signed on within the last 12 months or so

He isn't going anywhere ;)
Means nothing as far as rumours go - Schache has resigned for 2 years but that does not stop the speculation he is going to a melbourne team.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: meow meow on September 17, 2017, 09:17:07 AM
Cordy and Roberts don't get it done and Adams is always injured so Trengove to the Dogs looks like a certainty.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: nas on September 17, 2017, 10:38:03 AM
Quote from: meow meow on September 17, 2017, 09:17:07 AM
Cordy and Roberts don't get it done and Adams is always injured so Trengove to the Dogs looks like a certainty.

Hearing that they could be interested in M Lobbe!
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: powersuperkents on September 17, 2017, 12:20:24 PM
Quote from: nas on September 17, 2017, 10:38:03 AM
Quote from: meow meow on September 17, 2017, 09:17:07 AM
Cordy and Roberts don't get it done and Adams is always injured so Trengove to the Dogs looks like a certainty.

Hearing that they could be interested in M Lobbe!
That would be good for Lobbe - Port would probably have to contribute to the payments for the last two years of his contract though (he's been paid a shower load to play as a SANFL ruck this season...)
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Ringo on September 17, 2017, 06:33:39 PM
Couple of more rumours from Lions:

Port or Bombers the preferred destination for Rocky if he requests a trade.

Hawthorn reportedly looking at Johnno Freeman

Stef Martin also more than likely to leave.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: kilbluff1985 on September 17, 2017, 06:51:42 PM
wow stef martin
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: nas on September 17, 2017, 06:58:54 PM
Quote from: Ringo on September 17, 2017, 06:33:39 PM
Couple of more rumours from Lions:

Port or Bombers the preferred destination for Rocky if he requests a trade.

Hawthorn reportedly looking at Johnno Freeman

Stef Martin also more than likely to leave.

Would give Doggies & others a choice of Rucks if true, with Trengove & Lobbe maybe available as well
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: RaisyDaisy on September 17, 2017, 07:23:10 PM
Stef talk was mentioned a few weeks ago

His misses wants to move back to Melb too for work
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Jukes on September 17, 2017, 08:41:27 PM
Rocky and Stef for Ben Howlett and pick 28

Dodoro and I will post it up when trade week starts
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: kilbluff1985 on September 17, 2017, 08:52:12 PM
Quote from: Jukes on September 17, 2017, 08:41:27 PM
Rocky and Stef for Ben Howlett and pick 28

Dodoro and I will post it up when trade week starts

worse than any of Colorado's trades put together
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Jukes on September 17, 2017, 09:05:37 PM
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on September 17, 2017, 08:52:12 PM
Quote from: Jukes on September 17, 2017, 08:41:27 PM
Rocky and Stef for Ben Howlett and pick 28

Dodoro and I will post it up when trade week starts

worse than any of Colorado's trades put together

If Dodoro could get pick 5 for Carlisle, pick 25 for Melksham, and Stewart for pick 77, he can do anything!

But I'd definitely be willing to part with pick 11 for Rocky, possibly with something else.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Koop on September 17, 2017, 09:08:57 PM
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on September 17, 2017, 08:52:12 PM
Quote from: Jukes on September 17, 2017, 08:41:27 PM
Rocky and Stef for Ben Howlett and pick 28

Dodoro and I will post it up when trade week starts

worse than any of Colorado's trades put together

:)
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Gigantor on September 18, 2017, 12:39:21 PM
Heard a good one today,

Gaff and Masten for Paddy Cripps  ;D

Would love to see that!
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Ringo on September 20, 2017, 03:54:08 PM
Drums beating loudly up here Schache to Richmond for their first rounder,
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Toga on September 20, 2017, 06:40:23 PM
Quote from: Ringo on September 20, 2017, 03:54:08 PM
Drums beating loudly up here Schache to Richmond for their first rounder,

Has been the talk for months now but was subdued a bit by his re-signing. Probably not a bad outcome for both clubs.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: RaisyDaisy on September 24, 2017, 11:09:26 PM
Barrett saying Ablett to Geelong deal is more or less a lock now

Cats have Pick 20, but Dogs would want more for Stringer and apparently he wants 600k+

Gaff contracted, but a move back to Melb possible. I know that was mentioned here recently and I didn't think much of it due to his contract and recently buying a house in WA, but it's a possibility  :'(

Griffen's name was floated as someone to possibly leave GWS, and Matt Kennedy too

Tippett and Goldy mentioned too, but their salaries could be the problem for them in moving

Reckon Rocky and Gibbs will get traded too

Richmond no longer interested in Schache, but still a possibility that he moves to another VIC club

Matera has asked for a trade to Freo, and Wilson a chance to go to Freo too
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: enzedder on September 25, 2017, 07:34:56 AM
Posted elsewhere but probably should've done so here...
ITK at St.Kilda says Nick Haynes is likely to be at St.Kilda next year.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Purple 77 on September 25, 2017, 11:15:15 AM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on September 24, 2017, 11:09:26 PM
Gaff contracted, but a move back to Melb possible. I know that was mentioned here recently and I didn't think much of it due to his contract and recently buying a house in WA, but it's a possibility  :'(

I've found Demonland to not totally be talking shower, all of the time :P

In that same vein, some talk, or 'reaction' at Demonland about a Watts to Collingwood scenario. Which I personally find hilarious, but hey, they're talking about it.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Ricochet on September 25, 2017, 11:19:10 AM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on September 24, 2017, 11:09:26 PM
Matera has asked for a trade to Freo, and Wilson a chance to go to Freo too
Will be stoked if we get Wilson, which is sounding likely

and Matera will add a bit. Has a fair bit of talent and maybe a fresh start at home is what he needs
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Peter on September 26, 2017, 07:16:40 AM
Pies don't want Watts
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Money Shot on September 26, 2017, 01:06:40 PM
Devon Smith and Matthew Kennedy to Carlton has been rumoured a little bit recently and midfield depth is exactly what we need.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: SydneyRox on September 26, 2017, 02:32:05 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on September 25, 2017, 11:19:10 AM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on September 24, 2017, 11:09:26 PM
Matera has asked for a trade to Freo, and Wilson a chance to go to Freo too
Will be stoked if we get Wilson, which is sounding likely

and Matera will add a bit. Has a fair bit of talent and maybe a fresh start at home is what he needs

it is interesting matera has chose freo and that west coast have showed no interest considering the heritage.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: elephants on September 26, 2017, 02:33:22 PM
Quote from: SydneyRox on September 26, 2017, 02:32:05 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on September 25, 2017, 11:19:10 AM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on September 24, 2017, 11:09:26 PM
Matera has asked for a trade to Freo, and Wilson a chance to go to Freo too
Will be stoked if we get Wilson, which is sounding likely

and Matera will add a bit. Has a fair bit of talent and maybe a fresh start at home is what he needs

it is interesting matera has chose freo and that west coast have showed no interest considering the heritage.

Think it has something to do with the fact he's not 10% of the player the former Matera's were :P
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: SydneyRox on September 26, 2017, 03:23:47 PM
Quote from: elephants on September 26, 2017, 02:33:22 PM
Quote from: SydneyRox on September 26, 2017, 02:32:05 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on September 25, 2017, 11:19:10 AM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on September 24, 2017, 11:09:26 PM
Matera has asked for a trade to Freo, and Wilson a chance to go to Freo too
Will be stoked if we get Wilson, which is sounding likely

and Matera will add a bit. Has a fair bit of talent and maybe a fresh start at home is what he needs

it is interesting matera has chose freo and that west coast have showed no interest considering the heritage.

Think it has something to do with the fact he's not 10% of the player the former Matera's were :P

maybe, but your fwd line could use someone like him if he can play to his actual ability.

surely he is coming relatively cheap as well.....

Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: elephants on September 26, 2017, 03:27:00 PM
Quote from: SydneyRox on September 26, 2017, 03:23:47 PM
Quote from: elephants on September 26, 2017, 02:33:22 PM
Quote from: SydneyRox on September 26, 2017, 02:32:05 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on September 25, 2017, 11:19:10 AM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on September 24, 2017, 11:09:26 PM
Matera has asked for a trade to Freo, and Wilson a chance to go to Freo too
Will be stoked if we get Wilson, which is sounding likely

and Matera will add a bit. Has a fair bit of talent and maybe a fresh start at home is what he needs

it is interesting matera has chose freo and that west coast have showed no interest considering the heritage.

Think it has something to do with the fact he's not 10% of the player the former Matera's were :P

maybe, but your fwd line could use someone like him if he can play to his actual ability.

surely he is coming relatively cheap as well.....

Willing to bet we get Fasolo instead, which is very good by me!
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: SydneyRox on September 26, 2017, 03:32:08 PM
Quote from: elephants on September 26, 2017, 03:27:00 PM
Quote from: SydneyRox on September 26, 2017, 03:23:47 PM
Quote from: elephants on September 26, 2017, 02:33:22 PM
Quote from: SydneyRox on September 26, 2017, 02:32:05 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on September 25, 2017, 11:19:10 AM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on September 24, 2017, 11:09:26 PM
Matera has asked for a trade to Freo, and Wilson a chance to go to Freo too
Will be stoked if we get Wilson, which is sounding likely

and Matera will add a bit. Has a fair bit of talent and maybe a fresh start at home is what he needs

it is interesting matera has chose freo and that west coast have showed no interest considering the heritage.

Think it has something to do with the fact he's not 10% of the player the former Matera's were :P

maybe, but your fwd line could use someone like him if he can play to his actual ability.

surely he is coming relatively cheap as well.....

Willing to bet we get Fasolo instead, which is very good by me!

yeah, heard that rumour, but he is also risk/reward and will cost you more.

But I would want fasolo over Matera as well!!

Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: meow meow on September 26, 2017, 03:44:48 PM
Gary officially requested the trade back to the Cats. GC say yeah if they get adequate compo. Done deal!
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Purple 77 on September 26, 2017, 03:47:01 PM
Quote from: meow meow on September 26, 2017, 03:44:48 PM
Gary officially requested the trade back to the Cats. GC say yeah if they get adequate compo. Done deal!

Compo?!
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: meow meow on September 26, 2017, 03:50:17 PM
Quote from: Purple 77 on September 26, 2017, 03:47:01 PM
Quote from: meow meow on September 26, 2017, 03:44:48 PM
Gary officially requested the trade back to the Cats. GC say yeah if they get adequate compo. Done deal!

Compo?!

Pick 20 should do it in my case, 20 + a fringe like Lang should do it for GC.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: RaisyDaisy on September 26, 2017, 03:58:59 PM
Yeah we've enquired about The Faz but I think I read yesterday he wants to stay in Melbourne with Collingwood
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: enzedder on September 26, 2017, 05:43:43 PM
Rumours of Devon Smith or Zac Wilson as part of Haynes trade to St.Kilda but think they're just rumours because we have picks 7&8 and one of those picks may be required to land Haynes.
7&8 for Smith and Haynes works for me.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: RaisyDaisy on September 26, 2017, 08:50:29 PM
Don't like their chances, but apparently GC will be asking for Duncan in return for Ablett
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: meow meow on September 26, 2017, 09:08:24 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on September 26, 2017, 08:50:29 PM
Don't like their chances, but apparently GC will be asking for Duncan in return for Ablett

Are GC going to pay 100% of Ablett's contract or something?
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: JBs-Hawks on September 26, 2017, 09:11:12 PM
Quote from: meow meow on September 26, 2017, 09:08:24 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on September 26, 2017, 08:50:29 PM
Don't like their chances, but apparently GC will be asking for Duncan in return for Ablett

Are GC going to pay 100% of Ablett's contract or something?

They basically already have  ;D
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: elephants on September 27, 2017, 03:54:48 AM
Quote from: enzedder on September 26, 2017, 05:43:43 PM
7&8 for Smith and Haynes works for me.

That would be a ridiculously big win for the Saints imo
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: enzedder on September 27, 2017, 04:46:58 AM
Quote from: elephants on September 27, 2017, 03:54:48 AM
Quote from: enzedder on September 26, 2017, 05:43:43 PM
7&8 for Smith and Haynes works for me.

That would be a ridiculously big win for the Saints imo
Yeah I can't see it happening tbh. Think it's pure speculation about what we have and who else we could get if the Haynes thing has legs.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: kilbluff1985 on September 27, 2017, 08:36:33 AM
damn Cats midfield is already stacked now even more
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Football Factory on September 27, 2017, 02:38:08 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on September 26, 2017, 08:50:29 PM
Don't like their chances, but apparently GC will be asking for Duncan in return for Ablett

Tell them they're dreaming.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: kilbluff1985 on September 27, 2017, 10:24:39 PM
Brisbane trying to talk Hodge out of retirement

http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/more-news/luke-hodge-says-hes-in-discussions-with-brisbane-lions-to-again-play-afl/news-story/765d758b896cc9ade537d6cac5591f36
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Purple 77 on September 27, 2017, 10:32:23 PM
Watts to Port according to Mitch Clearly  ::)

Why don't I believe that I wonder... right, coz Jack Watts is fun to talk about I guess.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: RaisyDaisy on September 27, 2017, 11:03:35 PM
Carlton well in front to secure Matt Kennedy from GWS
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Peter on September 28, 2017, 07:21:51 AM
Considering renaming themselves Carlton Giants - another rumour?
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Ringo on September 28, 2017, 10:12:58 PM
Rocky is touring Port facilities.  Carlton or Port the favoured ones at the moment, Lions will not enter a bidding war.

Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: SydneyRox on September 29, 2017, 11:36:34 AM
Hows Damian Barrett....??

Mumford back to the Swans. Love him but I don't think so!
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: valkorum on September 29, 2017, 02:07:08 PM
Lachy Reid over here in Perth saying that Wilson and Matera to Freo are LOCKS
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: nas on September 29, 2017, 02:12:02 PM
Quote from: Ringo on September 28, 2017, 10:12:58 PM
Rocky is touring Port facilities.  Carlton or Port the favoured ones at the moment, Lions will not enter a bidding war.

Hearing could end up a 3 way trade, involving B Ah Chee to Suns, & pick forwarded onto Lions.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Toga on September 29, 2017, 02:23:10 PM
Quote from: nas on September 29, 2017, 02:12:02 PM
Quote from: Ringo on September 28, 2017, 10:12:58 PM
Rocky is touring Port facilities.  Carlton or Port the favoured ones at the moment, Lions will not enter a bidding war.

Hearing could end up a 3 way trade, involving B Ah Chee to Suns, & pick forwarded onto Lions.

Surely Rockliff's contract would be worth enough that the Lions would receive a better pick through FA as opposed to trade? ???
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Purple 77 on September 29, 2017, 02:48:39 PM
The Watts noise is deafening at Demonland.

I'll concede. There seems to be smoke coming from somewhere  :-\
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: nas on September 29, 2017, 02:54:13 PM
Quote from: Purple 77 on September 29, 2017, 02:48:39 PM
The Watts noise is deafening at Demonland.

I'll concede. There seems to be smoke coming from somewhere  :-\

Might get a guernsey @ Port  :-X
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: meow meow on September 29, 2017, 03:05:16 PM
Quote from: Toga on September 29, 2017, 02:23:10 PM
Quote from: nas on September 29, 2017, 02:12:02 PM
Quote from: Ringo on September 28, 2017, 10:12:58 PM
Rocky is touring Port facilities.  Carlton or Port the favoured ones at the moment, Lions will not enter a bidding war.

Hearing could end up a 3 way trade, involving B Ah Chee to Suns, & pick forwarded onto Lions.

Surely Rockliff's contract would be worth enough that the Lions would receive a better pick through FA as opposed to trade? ???

End of first round.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Toga on September 29, 2017, 03:09:03 PM
Quote from: meow meow on September 29, 2017, 03:05:16 PM
Quote from: Toga on September 29, 2017, 02:23:10 PM
Quote from: nas on September 29, 2017, 02:12:02 PM
Quote from: Ringo on September 28, 2017, 10:12:58 PM
Rocky is touring Port facilities.  Carlton or Port the favoured ones at the moment, Lions will not enter a bidding war.

Hearing could end up a 3 way trade, involving B Ah Chee to Suns, & pick forwarded onto Lions.

Surely Rockliff's contract would be worth enough that the Lions would receive a better pick through FA as opposed to trade? ???

End of first round.

Agreed. I seriously doubt GC would be giving anything higher in a 3-way for Ah Chee though..
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: RaisyDaisy on September 29, 2017, 05:27:03 PM
Quote from: nas on September 29, 2017, 02:54:13 PM
Quote from: Purple 77 on September 29, 2017, 02:48:39 PM
The Watts noise is deafening at Demonland.

I'll concede. There seems to be smoke coming from somewhere  :-\

Might get a guernsey @ Port  :-X

Well considering he met with Port it's looking likely
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Purple 77 on September 29, 2017, 09:00:06 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on September 29, 2017, 05:27:03 PM
Quote from: nas on September 29, 2017, 02:54:13 PM
Quote from: Purple 77 on September 29, 2017, 02:48:39 PM
The Watts noise is deafening at Demonland.

I'll concede. There seems to be smoke coming from somewhere  :-\

Might get a guernsey @ Port  :-X

Well considering he met with Port it's looking likely

It's doin my head in. He's contracted... so I guess we'll be getting a good deal?

Just, yeah, doin my head in, in more than that aspect.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Grazz on September 29, 2017, 10:02:53 PM
Quote from: Purple 77 on September 29, 2017, 09:00:06 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on September 29, 2017, 05:27:03 PM
Quote from: nas on September 29, 2017, 02:54:13 PM
Quote from: Purple 77 on September 29, 2017, 02:48:39 PM
The Watts noise is deafening at Demonland.

I'll concede. There seems to be smoke coming from somewhere  :-\

Might get a guernsey @ Port  :-X

Well considering he met with Port it's looking likely

It's doin my head in. He's contracted... so I guess we'll be getting a good deal?

Just, yeah, doin my head in, in more than that aspect.

SEN saying tonight it's not a given that he'll leave just yet despite him having a look around at other clubs.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: nas on September 30, 2017, 07:07:02 AM
Adam Saad being chased by the Pies.

Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: RaisyDaisy on September 30, 2017, 08:20:45 AM
Devon Smith has met with Carlton and Essendon and it's believed Carlton is the frontrunner for both him and Kennedy and might be a package deal

Rocky has spoken with Carlton too but is weighing up whether he wants to leave Brisbane or not, and Hodge might actually have an influence on Rockys decision, if he comes up
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Ringo on September 30, 2017, 09:10:02 AM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on September 30, 2017, 08:20:45 AM
Devon Smith has met with Carlton and Essendon and it's believed Carlton is the frontrunner for both him and Kennedy and might be a package deal

Rocky has spoken with Carlton too but is weighing up whether he wants to leave Brisbane or not, and Hodge might actually have an influence on Rockys decision, if he comes up
Personally think Rocky will go to Port if he leaves Brisbane. Chasing a premiership as will be 3/4 years before Brisbanes windows open. If Carlton offer too good to ignore though may chase the cash.

Looking more likely that Hodge will come to Brisbane with promise of assistant coaching position and wife wanting to come as well.

and this latest bit of information:
Luke Hodge has pulled out of the Retiring Players parade at todays GF.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: PowerBug on September 30, 2017, 10:38:12 AM
Please focus on Watts first Port Adelaide. Does Rocky coming in mean someone big may be on the way out?
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: nas on September 30, 2017, 10:58:41 AM
Quote from: PowerBug on September 30, 2017, 10:38:12 AM
Please focus on Watts first Port Adelaide. Does Rocky coming in mean someone big may be on the way out?

Could be a 3 way, with Rocky & B Ah Chee to Suns & player / pick on to Lions
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: PowerBug on September 30, 2017, 12:36:43 PM
Quote from: nas on September 30, 2017, 10:58:41 AM
Quote from: PowerBug on September 30, 2017, 10:38:12 AM
Please focus on Watts first Port Adelaide. Does Rocky coming in mean someone big may be on the way out?

Could be a 3 way, with Rocky & B Ah Chee to Suns & player / pick on to Lions
As long as it's no one bigger than Ah Chee then I'm okay with it. I don't want to hear that a Wines, Wingard, Boak or the likes suddenly want a trade out of SA which is why we are looking at Rocky.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: GoLions on September 30, 2017, 12:53:48 PM
Quote from: PowerBug on September 30, 2017, 12:36:43 PM
Quote from: nas on September 30, 2017, 10:58:41 AM
Quote from: PowerBug on September 30, 2017, 10:38:12 AM
Please focus on Watts first Port Adelaide. Does Rocky coming in mean someone big may be on the way out?

Could be a 3 way, with Rocky & B Ah Chee to Suns & player / pick on to Lions
As long as it's no one bigger than Ah Chee then I'm okay with it. I don't want to hear that a Wines, Wingard, Boak or the likes suddenly want a trade out of SA which is why we are looking at Rocky.
Considering we would get an end of first round pick for Rocky as compensation if leaving as a DFA or whatever, you or the Suns would either have to give us a first round pick or a decent player for this to work, right? Otherwise we'd just take pick 19 as compo.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: nas on September 30, 2017, 03:04:09 PM
Quote from: Grazz on September 29, 2017, 10:02:53 PM
Quote from: Purple 77 on September 29, 2017, 09:00:06 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on September 29, 2017, 05:27:03 PM
Quote from: nas on September 29, 2017, 02:54:13 PM
Quote from: Purple 77 on September 29, 2017, 02:48:39 PM
The Watts noise is deafening at Demonland.

I'll concede. There seems to be smoke coming from somewhere  :-\

Might get a guernsey @ Port  :-X

Well considering he met with Port it's looking likely

It's doin my head in. He's contracted... so I guess we'll be getting a good deal?

Just, yeah, doin my head in, in more than that aspect.

SEN saying tonight it's not a given that he'll leave just yet despite him having a look around at other clubs.

Confirming the rumours. http://www.afl.com.au/news/2017-09-30/dees-asked-watts-to-explore-his-options-goodwin
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: DazBurg on September 30, 2017, 06:58:04 PM
Quote from: PowerBug on September 30, 2017, 10:38:12 AM
Please focus on Watts first Port Adelaide. Does Rocky coming in mean someone big may be on the way out?
well trengove is going to the doggies so that helps free up some cash
i'd trade out lobbe his on decent coin and you don't use him (weather someone else would take him for what he is on would be the problem)
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: PowerBug on September 30, 2017, 08:49:33 PM
Quote from: DazBurg on September 30, 2017, 06:58:04 PM
Quote from: PowerBug on September 30, 2017, 10:38:12 AM
Please focus on Watts first Port Adelaide. Does Rocky coming in mean someone big may be on the way out?
well trengove is going to the doggies so that helps free up some cash
i'd trade out lobbe his on decent coin and you don't use him (weather someone else would take him for what he is on would be the problem)
Yeah that has been the problem with Lobbe, no one wants to pay his salary.

Quote from: GoLions on September 30, 2017, 12:53:48 PM
Considering we would get an end of first round pick for Rocky as compensation if leaving as a DFA or whatever, you or the Suns would either have to give us a first round pick or a decent player for this to work, right? Otherwise we'd just take pick 19 as compo.
And we have no draft picks to play with :-\
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Toga on October 01, 2017, 09:37:36 PM
Quote from: GoLions on September 30, 2017, 12:53:48 PM
Quote from: PowerBug on September 30, 2017, 12:36:43 PM
Quote from: nas on September 30, 2017, 10:58:41 AM
Quote from: PowerBug on September 30, 2017, 10:38:12 AM
Please focus on Watts first Port Adelaide. Does Rocky coming in mean someone big may be on the way out?

Could be a 3 way, with Rocky & B Ah Chee to Suns & player / pick on to Lions
As long as it's no one bigger than Ah Chee then I'm okay with it. I don't want to hear that a Wines, Wingard, Boak or the likes suddenly want a trade out of SA which is why we are looking at Rocky.
Considering we would get an end of first round pick for Rocky as compensation if leaving as a DFA or whatever, you or the Suns would either have to give us a first round pick or a decent player for this to work, right? Otherwise we'd just take pick 19 as compo.

That's exactly what I was saying - surely Rocky's market value as a trade target wouldn't be higher than the Pick 19 that FA would give as compo.. So if he was leaving would make sense to let him go in FA surely!
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: GoLions on October 01, 2017, 09:56:22 PM
Quote from: Toga on October 01, 2017, 09:37:36 PM
Quote from: GoLions on September 30, 2017, 12:53:48 PM
Quote from: PowerBug on September 30, 2017, 12:36:43 PM
Quote from: nas on September 30, 2017, 10:58:41 AM
Quote from: PowerBug on September 30, 2017, 10:38:12 AM
Please focus on Watts first Port Adelaide. Does Rocky coming in mean someone big may be on the way out?

Could be a 3 way, with Rocky & B Ah Chee to Suns & player / pick on to Lions
As long as it's no one bigger than Ah Chee then I'm okay with it. I don't want to hear that a Wines, Wingard, Boak or the likes suddenly want a trade out of SA which is why we are looking at Rocky.
Considering we would get an end of first round pick for Rocky as compensation if leaving as a DFA or whatever, you or the Suns would either have to give us a first round pick or a decent player for this to work, right? Otherwise we'd just take pick 19 as compo.

That's exactly what I was saying - surely Rocky's market value as a trade target wouldn't be higher than the Pick 19 that FA would give as compo.. So if he was leaving would make sense to let him go in FA surely!
Hanley got pick 15 or something like that, so I'd say we definitely could get something better than 19. We already have Port's first rounder though, and we ain't getting the Suns first haha. Still no guarantee to leave though, i believe i heard Hodgey was gonna convince him to stay! :P
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Ricochet on October 02, 2017, 10:50:56 AM
Mitch Cleary on trade radio this morning said Heath Shaw has been asked by GWS to weigh up his future
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Pkbaldy on October 02, 2017, 10:54:14 AM
Rory Sloane to St Kilda for Picks 7 and 8.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Money Shot on October 02, 2017, 11:12:07 AM
Quote from: Ricochet on October 02, 2017, 10:50:56 AM
Mitch Cleary on trade radio this morning said Heath Shaw has been asked by GWS to weigh up his future
Wow! That's huge if true.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: kilbluff1985 on October 02, 2017, 11:38:40 AM
Quote from: Pkbaldy on October 02, 2017, 10:54:14 AM
Rory Sloane to St Kilda for Picks 7 and 8.

which xv admin do i complain to about this
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: meow meow on October 02, 2017, 11:52:45 AM
Quote from: Money Shot on October 02, 2017, 11:12:07 AM
Quote from: Ricochet on October 02, 2017, 10:50:56 AM
Mitch Cleary on trade radio this morning said Heath Shaw has been asked by GWS to weigh up his future
Wow! That's huge if true.

It's been said to be bs. Mummy is the one who might not be playing on.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Pkbaldy on October 02, 2017, 12:04:10 PM
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on October 02, 2017, 11:38:40 AM
Quote from: Pkbaldy on October 02, 2017, 10:54:14 AM
Rory Sloane to St Kilda for Picks 7 and 8.

which xv admin do i complain to about this

Bit off topic isn't it WB?
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: RaisyDaisy on October 02, 2017, 12:06:55 PM
Quote from: meow meow on October 02, 2017, 11:52:45 AM
Quote from: Money Shot on October 02, 2017, 11:12:07 AM
Quote from: Ricochet on October 02, 2017, 10:50:56 AM
Mitch Cleary on trade radio this morning said Heath Shaw has been asked by GWS to weigh up his future
Wow! That's huge if true.

It's been said to be bs. Mummy is the one who might not be playing on.

Yeah I find that quite hard to believe

Heater is still playing really well and they'll need him even more with Wilson asking to be traded
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: meow meow on October 02, 2017, 12:14:55 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on October 02, 2017, 12:06:55 PM
Quote from: meow meow on October 02, 2017, 11:52:45 AM
Quote from: Money Shot on October 02, 2017, 11:12:07 AM
Quote from: Ricochet on October 02, 2017, 10:50:56 AM
Mitch Cleary on trade radio this morning said Heath Shaw has been asked by GWS to weigh up his future
Wow! That's huge if true.

It's been said to be bs. Mummy is the one who might not be playing on.

Yeah I find that quite hard to believe

Heater is still playing really well and they'll need him even more with Wilson asking to be traded

Not really. The new Gilbee is primed to be their main man from next year onwards.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: GoLions on October 02, 2017, 12:16:45 PM
Quote from: meow meow on October 02, 2017, 12:14:55 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on October 02, 2017, 12:06:55 PM
Quote from: meow meow on October 02, 2017, 11:52:45 AM
Quote from: Money Shot on October 02, 2017, 11:12:07 AM
Quote from: Ricochet on October 02, 2017, 10:50:56 AM
Mitch Cleary on trade radio this morning said Heath Shaw has been asked by GWS to weigh up his future
Wow! That's huge if true.

It's been said to be bs. Mummy is the one who might not be playing on.

Yeah I find that quite hard to believe

Heater is still playing really well and they'll need him even more with Wilson asking to be traded

Not really. The new Gilbee is primed to be their main man from next year onwards.
Isaac!
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: meow meow on October 02, 2017, 12:32:34 PM
Quote from: GoLions on October 02, 2017, 12:16:45 PM
Quote from: meow meow on October 02, 2017, 12:14:55 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on October 02, 2017, 12:06:55 PM
Quote from: meow meow on October 02, 2017, 11:52:45 AM
Quote from: Money Shot on October 02, 2017, 11:12:07 AM
Quote from: Ricochet on October 02, 2017, 10:50:56 AM
Mitch Cleary on trade radio this morning said Heath Shaw has been asked by GWS to weigh up his future
Wow! That's huge if true.

It's been said to be bs. Mummy is the one who might not be playing on.

Yeah I find that quite hard to believe

Heater is still playing really well and they'll need him even more with Wilson asking to be traded

Not really. The new Gilbee is primed to be their main man from next year onwards.
Isaac!

He's Cumming...
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Gigantor on October 02, 2017, 12:33:11 PM
If Mummy goes I flowering hope Lobb gets R/F DPP next year  :P
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Purple 77 on October 02, 2017, 12:45:31 PM
I'm going to be filthy when Watts is traded for a second rounder >:(

Coz apparently a 2nd rounder is more helpful to us in trying to make finals. For goodness sake!
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Ricochet on October 02, 2017, 12:47:13 PM
Quote from: Purple 77 on October 02, 2017, 12:45:31 PM
I'm going to be filthy when Watts is traded for a second rounder >:(

Coz apparently a 2nd rounder is more helpful to us in trying to make finals. For goodness sake!
You're filthy about losing Watts?!? Pls. We're going to lose Taberner! >:( >:( >:( >:(
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Ricochet on October 02, 2017, 12:48:51 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on October 02, 2017, 10:50:56 AM
Mitch Cleary on trade radio this morning said Heath Shaw has been asked by GWS to weigh up his future
GWS have just come out to deny this.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Money Shot on October 02, 2017, 01:10:46 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on October 02, 2017, 12:48:51 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on October 02, 2017, 10:50:56 AM
Mitch Cleary on trade radio this morning said Heath Shaw has been asked by GWS to weigh up his future
GWS have just come out to deny this.
Who is Mitch Cleary out of curiousity?
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: kilbluff1985 on October 02, 2017, 01:52:07 PM
Hawthorn has sacked CEO Tracey Gaudry
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: RaisyDaisy on October 02, 2017, 01:58:18 PM
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on October 02, 2017, 01:52:07 PM
Hawthorn has sacked CEO Tracey Gaudry

She didn't even last 6 months

Ouch
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: RaisyDaisy on October 02, 2017, 06:32:57 PM
Judd and Sticks joined Bolton with meeting Rocky last week to try and lure him over

Blues looking like the front runner to land him

Basically it's Blues or Port, or he somehow stays which is sounding unlikely
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Money Shot on October 02, 2017, 07:48:27 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on October 02, 2017, 06:32:57 PM
Judd and Sticks joined Bolton with meeting Rocky last week to try and lure him over

Blues looking like the front runner to land him

Basically it's Blues or Port, or he somehow stays which is sounding unlikely
Apparently he'll be leaving as a free agent as well which makes life easier for either the blues or port. ::)
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Money Shot on October 03, 2017, 10:00:52 AM
Essendon and Carlton lead the race for Adam Saad. Gold Coast want a second round draft pick for the speedy half back.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: RaisyDaisy on October 03, 2017, 01:29:53 PM
Matt Kennedy as officially nominated Carlton

Jack Watts spoke - sounds like he doesn't want to leave but is being pushed out

Motlop sighted at Metricon
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Ricochet on October 03, 2017, 02:03:28 PM
Sounds like Schache will stay
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Purple 77 on October 03, 2017, 04:09:26 PM
Jake Leaver.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: meow meow on October 03, 2017, 04:15:03 PM
Mummy's boy!
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Holz on October 03, 2017, 04:18:09 PM
geez Calrton could look very very good.

Weits, Docherty, Kennedy, Curnow, Cripps, Rayner, SPS

thats some elite young talent there.

some good young guys too

Silvagni, Macredie, Mckay, Plowman, Byrne/
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: meow meow on October 03, 2017, 04:43:43 PM
Lever said he was in it for the long haul at the Crows last time he re-signed. What a gun.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: TomK on October 03, 2017, 04:47:22 PM
Quote from: meow meow on October 03, 2017, 04:43:43 PM
Lever said he was in it for the long haul at the Crows last time he re-signed. What a gun.
Just an all-round great bloke really.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Holz on October 03, 2017, 04:55:01 PM
Quote from: meow meow on October 03, 2017, 04:43:43 PM
Lever said he was in it for the long haul at the Crows last time he re-signed. What a gun.

Wasnt he originally offered like 300k from the crows? Now im sure they will bump it up to like 500k. I thought the dees where like 800k. So over 5 years its like $2.5 million or $4 million.

He gets alot more money and gets to move back to where he is from with his friends and family.

seems a smart move.



I reckon 90% of people would do what he is doing. You graduate from uni you get offered a job in another state for a grad program on 50k a year. After 3 years you do really well and they offer you a full time role at 70k a year.  A recruiter from your home town offers you 150k to move back home (where you would rather have been from the start).

How many people knock that back and then take the 100k where they are.


seems the kid has brains, probably why he is such a good footballer.






Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: TomK on October 03, 2017, 04:57:24 PM
Quote from: Holz on October 03, 2017, 04:55:01 PM
Quote from: meow meow on October 03, 2017, 04:43:43 PM
Lever said he was in it for the long haul at the Crows last time he re-signed. What a gun.

Wasnt he originally offered like 300k from the crows? Now im sure they will bump it up to like 500k. I thought the dees where like 800k. So over 5 years its like $2.5 million or $4 million.

He gets alot more money and gets to move back to where he is from with his friends and family.

seems a smart move.



I reckon 90% of people would do what he is doing. You graduate from uni you get offered a job in another state for a grad program on 50k a year. After 3 years you do really well and they offer you a full time role at 70k a year.  A recruiter from your home town offers you 150k to move back home (where you would rather have been from the start).

How many people knock that back and then take the 100k where they are.


seems the kid has brains, probably why he is such a good footballer.
The reported offer was bullshower, like most things in the media, I don't know what we did offer him but I'm sure it wasn't 300k at the start.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: RaisyDaisy on October 03, 2017, 05:10:57 PM
Apparently the Lever offer from Mebourne is 800-850k per year

That's ridiculous

He's a super player for his age, but that's massive overs

I wonder how most of the other Demons will feel being paid so much less
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Holz on October 03, 2017, 05:24:16 PM
Quote from: TomK on October 03, 2017, 04:57:24 PM
Quote from: Holz on October 03, 2017, 04:55:01 PM
Quote from: meow meow on October 03, 2017, 04:43:43 PM
Lever said he was in it for the long haul at the Crows last time he re-signed. What a gun.

Wasnt he originally offered like 300k from the crows? Now im sure they will bump it up to like 500k. I thought the dees where like 800k. So over 5 years its like $2.5 million or $4 million.

He gets alot more money and gets to move back to where he is from with his friends and family.

seems a smart move.



I reckon 90% of people would do what he is doing. You graduate from uni you get offered a job in another state for a grad program on 50k a year. After 3 years you do really well and they offer you a full time role at 70k a year.  A recruiter from your home town offers you 150k to move back home (where you would rather have been from the start).

How many people knock that back and then take the 100k where they are.


seems the kid has brains, probably why he is such a good footballer.
The reported offer was bullshower, like most things in the media, I don't know what we did offer him but I'm sure it wasn't 300k at the start.

im sure its less then 800k though.

even if its just 100k that half a million over 5 years.

thats a pretty attractive offer to come home. 

Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: meow meow on October 03, 2017, 05:25:28 PM
The cap went up heaps. 800 is the new 600.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: jvalles69 on October 03, 2017, 05:47:08 PM
AFL seems to be the only sport where cry babies want to go home instead of "working" for the company that "hired" them.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: shaker on October 03, 2017, 06:09:41 PM
It seems they are only cry babies when they want to go home to Victoria can't remember Beams being called that when he wanted to go home to be with family ?
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: RaisyDaisy on October 03, 2017, 06:16:21 PM
Quote from: shaker on October 03, 2017, 06:09:41 PM
It seems they are only cry babies when they want to go home to Victoria can't remember Beams being called that when he wanted to go home to be with family ?

Beams went home because his Dad's health is flowered. Not because he was homesick
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Holz on October 03, 2017, 06:19:07 PM
Quote from: shaker on October 03, 2017, 06:09:41 PM
It seems they are only cry babies when they want to go home to Victoria can't remember Beams being called that when he wanted to go home to be with family ?

The only cry babies are the fans making these stupid calls. Not only that but they are often hypocrites too.




Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: shaker on October 03, 2017, 06:20:40 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on October 03, 2017, 06:16:21 PM
Quote from: shaker on October 03, 2017, 06:09:41 PM
It seems they are only cry babies when they want to go home to Victoria can't remember Beams being called that when he wanted to go home to be with family ?

Beams went home because his Dad's health is flowered. Not because he was homesick
Ok Hill wanted to go home can't remember him being called that either?
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: elephants on October 03, 2017, 06:52:29 PM
Yeah I find it hard to ping players for leaving for money.

You play footy for what, 10-15 years if you're lucky? A lot of players are delisted every year, most players are a few bad injuries away from that. At the end of your career your body is ruined and you may or may not have qualifications from uni, so there's a lot of uncertainty there.

You gotta think smart, if I was playing for the Giants and Freo offered me an extra 200k a year to play for them I would take it in a heartbeat.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Ringo on October 03, 2017, 06:58:53 PM
Hope this rumour has no substance but Brisbane reportedly showing interest in Lobbe.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: meow meow on October 03, 2017, 07:03:11 PM
I don't blame Ward for leaving. Griffen on the other hand...
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Gigantor on October 03, 2017, 07:25:27 PM
Quote from: Ringo on October 03, 2017, 06:58:53 PM
Hope this rumour has no substance but Brisbane reportedly showing interest in Lobbe.

Port might what to hold on to him with the Ryder assault verdict still to come.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: shaker on October 03, 2017, 07:35:00 PM
Quote from: Gigantor on October 03, 2017, 07:25:27 PM
Quote from: Ringo on October 03, 2017, 06:58:53 PM
Hope this rumour has no substance but Brisbane reportedly showing interest in Lobbe.

Port might what to hold on to him with the Ryder assault verdict still to come.
Electric chair you think ?
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Ricochet on October 03, 2017, 07:51:10 PM
7 News clip said Lever lost both his grandparents in the past year and his mum is sick, don't think anyone can hold it against him for wanting to go home.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: nas on October 03, 2017, 08:00:55 PM
Quote from: shaker on October 03, 2017, 07:35:00 PM
Quote from: Gigantor on October 03, 2017, 07:25:27 PM
Quote from: Ringo on October 03, 2017, 06:58:53 PM
Hope this rumour has no substance but Brisbane reportedly showing interest in Lobbe.

Port might what to hold on to him with the Ryder assault verdict still to come.
Electric chair you think ?

Get rid of his high priced contract.

Leather Poisoning.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: JBs-Hawks on October 03, 2017, 08:02:16 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on October 03, 2017, 07:51:10 PM
7 News clip said Lever lost both his grandparents in the past year and his mum is sick, don't think anyone can hold it against him for wanting to go home.

Tbag can!
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Toga on October 03, 2017, 08:05:11 PM
Jake Niall reporting that Rockliff has informed Carlton that his preference is to play with Port Adelaide next season...
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: nas on October 03, 2017, 08:11:02 PM
Quote from: Toga on October 03, 2017, 08:05:11 PM
Jake Niall reporting that Rockliff has informed Carlton that his preference is to play with Port Adelaide next season...

Now to get the deal done.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: nas on October 03, 2017, 08:12:21 PM
Quote from: JBs-Hawks on October 03, 2017, 08:02:16 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on October 03, 2017, 07:51:10 PM
7 News clip said Lever lost both his grandparents in the past year and his mum is sick, don't think anyone can hold it against him for wanting to go home.

Tbag can!

Yeah, watching Adelaide board with interest for his comments.  :-X
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: shaker on October 03, 2017, 08:19:07 PM
Quote from: nas on October 03, 2017, 08:11:02 PM
Quote from: Toga on October 03, 2017, 08:05:11 PM
Jake Niall reporting that Rockliff has informed Carlton that his preference is to play with Port Adelaide next season...

Now to get the deal done.
He would be a great pickup gun mid and can hit the scoreboard if only you can get Ryder's death sentence commuted to community service it is looking up for the Power
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: nas on October 03, 2017, 08:53:21 PM
Quote from: shaker on October 03, 2017, 08:19:07 PM
Quote from: nas on October 03, 2017, 08:11:02 PM
Quote from: Toga on October 03, 2017, 08:05:11 PM
Jake Niall reporting that Rockliff has informed Carlton that his preference is to play with Port Adelaide next season...

Now to get the deal done.
He would be a great pickup gun mid and can hit the scoreboard if only you can get Ryder's death sentence commuted to community service it is looking up for the Power

Rotate Rocky, Chad, & Robbie thro Mid & Fwd.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: RaisyDaisy on October 04, 2017, 10:56:54 AM
Goldy and Fasolo to stay at their clubs - won't be traded

Freo going to make a play for Dan Menzel

West Coast interested in Brendon Ah Chee

Lobbe going to Brisbane close to a lock
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Gigantor on October 04, 2017, 10:58:16 AM
The whole Lever situation is getting messy, wonder how much of the below article is true

http://www.news.com.au/sport/afl/jake-levers-walkout-leaves-bitter-taste-in-adelaide/news-story/4a52524d1e516c8fe791e552983934ff

The stuff about players not wanting him in the finals is crazy

Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Purple 77 on October 04, 2017, 11:23:22 AM
Wow, listen to this if you can, only a minute and a half long.

https://www.facebook.com/SportsdaySA/videos/1494823337251561/

Adelaide none-to-happy.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: PowerBug on October 04, 2017, 11:33:20 AM
Rocky to Port. Brisbane get Rd 1 Compo. We trade Lobbe to Brisbane for that Compo pick. Port loving life 8)
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Ringo on October 04, 2017, 11:43:04 AM
Quote from: PowerBug on October 04, 2017, 11:33:20 AM
Rocky to Port. Brisbane get Rd 1 Compo. We trade Lobbe to Brisbane for that Compo pick. Port loving life 8)
Doubt we will trade that compo pick for Lobbe though. May be a little high. Still got that gut feeling that martin may still be traded as well with this going on.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: TomK on October 04, 2017, 11:50:14 AM
flower yes Adelaide, play hard-ball!
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Holz on October 04, 2017, 12:00:10 PM
Quote from: TomK on October 04, 2017, 11:50:14 AM
flower yes Adelaide, play hard-ball!

your lucky North didnt get the spoon.

North would probably chuck 1 million at him and pick him up in the PSD.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: shaker on October 04, 2017, 12:27:24 PM
Crows would be stupid to knock back pick 10 and 27 I think , saw Lever on TV he said if needed  he will go to PSD which means the Crows get nothing the Suns and Brissie won't pick a player who does not want to be there and there are plenty of Vic clubs who will pay him the $$ in the end he will get what he wants being back home with his family 
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Big Mac on October 04, 2017, 12:32:07 PM
That's hilarious if that's how Adelaide are going to do their dealings, throwing a tantrum when they don't get their way ;D

They can keep Lever if they won't take 10 and 27
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: TomK on October 04, 2017, 12:44:14 PM
Melbourne are giving him 800k a year!

If they value him that much, they should be prepared to give two 1st round picks, and if they aren't, they don't deserve him.

Please explain how we're throwing a tantrum by not letting players dictate everything after only 3 years the club? If you lost the players we lost, you'd get pretty flowering sick of it too.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: PowerBug on October 04, 2017, 12:59:03 PM
Quote from: TomK on October 04, 2017, 12:44:14 PM
Melbourne are giving him 800k a year!

If they value him that much, they should be prepared to give two 1st round picks, and if they aren't, they don't deserve him.

Please explain how we're throwing a tantrum by not letting players dictate everything after only 3 years the club? If you lost the players we lost, you'd get pretty flowering sick of it too.
Must be a culture problem at the Crows :-X

;D
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Gigantor on October 04, 2017, 01:00:15 PM
Quote from: PowerBug on October 04, 2017, 12:59:03 PM
Quote from: TomK on October 04, 2017, 12:44:14 PM
Melbourne are giving him 800k a year!

If they value him that much, they should be prepared to give two 1st round picks, and if they aren't, they don't deserve him.

Please explain how we're throwing a tantrum by not letting players dictate everything after only 3 years the club? If you lost the players we lost, you'd get pretty flowering sick of it too.
Must be a culture problem at the Crows :-X

;D

How many Crows have punched a cop this week?  ;D
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: PowerBug on October 04, 2017, 01:01:22 PM
Quote from: Gigantor on October 04, 2017, 01:00:15 PM
Quote from: PowerBug on October 04, 2017, 12:59:03 PM
Quote from: TomK on October 04, 2017, 12:44:14 PM
Melbourne are giving him 800k a year!

If they value him that much, they should be prepared to give two 1st round picks, and if they aren't, they don't deserve him.

Please explain how we're throwing a tantrum by not letting players dictate everything after only 3 years the club? If you lost the players we lost, you'd get pretty flowering sick of it too.
Must be a culture problem at the Crows :-X

;D

How many Crows have punched a cop this week?  ;D
At least Paddy Ryder put up more of a fight than the Crows did on Saturday ;D
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: TomK on October 04, 2017, 01:02:47 PM
Quote from: PowerBug on October 04, 2017, 01:01:22 PM
Quote from: Gigantor on October 04, 2017, 01:00:15 PM
Quote from: PowerBug on October 04, 2017, 12:59:03 PM
Quote from: TomK on October 04, 2017, 12:44:14 PM
Melbourne are giving him 800k a year!

If they value him that much, they should be prepared to give two 1st round picks, and if they aren't, they don't deserve him.

Please explain how we're throwing a tantrum by not letting players dictate everything after only 3 years the club? If you lost the players we lost, you'd get pretty flowering sick of it too.
Must be a culture problem at the Crows :-X

;D

How many Crows have punched a cop this week?  ;D
At least Paddy Ryder put up more of a fight than the Crows did on Saturday ;D
Look, you're not wrong.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: PowerBug on October 04, 2017, 01:03:48 PM
Quote from: TomK on October 04, 2017, 01:02:47 PM
Quote from: PowerBug on October 04, 2017, 01:01:22 PM
Quote from: Gigantor on October 04, 2017, 01:00:15 PM
Quote from: PowerBug on October 04, 2017, 12:59:03 PM
Quote from: TomK on October 04, 2017, 12:44:14 PM
Melbourne are giving him 800k a year!

If they value him that much, they should be prepared to give two 1st round picks, and if they aren't, they don't deserve him.

Please explain how we're throwing a tantrum by not letting players dictate everything after only 3 years the club? If you lost the players we lost, you'd get pretty flowering sick of it too.
Must be a culture problem at the Crows :-X

;D

How many Crows have punched a cop this week?  ;D
At least Paddy Ryder put up more of a fight than the Crows did on Saturday ;D
Look, you're not wrong.
I have nothing else, so any comeback there and I'd have conceded :P
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Purple 77 on October 04, 2017, 03:04:39 PM
Quote from: TomK on October 04, 2017, 12:44:14 PM
Melbourne are giving him 800k a year!

If they value him that much, they should be prepared to give two 1st round picks, and if they aren't, they don't deserve him.

Please explain how we're throwing a tantrum by not letting players dictate everything after only 3 years the club? If you lost the players we lost, you'd get pretty flowering sick of it too.

Definitely respect wanting the get the best out of a deal with Lever, and playing hard-ball, because you're right, it's happened too many times before. But looking at an offer, saying nothing and walking away is childish, if true.

Personally, I have no idea why players want to leave Adelaide, especially now.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Purple 77 on October 04, 2017, 03:07:15 PM
I'd be demanding 2 first rounders if it were Hogan FWIW, so definitely understand where Adelaide is coming from. I can see it being done tbh.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: TomK on October 04, 2017, 03:22:43 PM
Quote from: Purple 77 on October 04, 2017, 03:04:39 PM
Quote from: TomK on October 04, 2017, 12:44:14 PM
Melbourne are giving him 800k a year!

If they value him that much, they should be prepared to give two 1st round picks, and if they aren't, they don't deserve him.

Please explain how we're throwing a tantrum by not letting players dictate everything after only 3 years the club? If you lost the players we lost, you'd get pretty flowering sick of it too.

Definitely respect wanting the get the best out of a deal with Lever, and playing hard-ball, because you're right, it's happened too many times before. But looking at an offer, saying nothing and walking away is childish, if true.

Personally, I have no idea why players want to leave Adelaide, especially now.
Oh I absolutely agree that walking away without saying anything is childish, doesn't help the situation at all.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Pkbaldy on October 04, 2017, 04:15:01 PM
Quote from: TomK on October 04, 2017, 03:22:43 PM
Quote from: Purple 77 on October 04, 2017, 03:04:39 PM
Quote from: TomK on October 04, 2017, 12:44:14 PM
Melbourne are giving him 800k a year!

If they value him that much, they should be prepared to give two 1st round picks, and if they aren't, they don't deserve him.

Please explain how we're throwing a tantrum by not letting players dictate everything after only 3 years the club? If you lost the players we lost, you'd get pretty flowering sick of it too.

Definitely respect wanting the get the best out of a deal with Lever, and playing hard-ball, because you're right, it's happened too many times before. But looking at an offer, saying nothing and walking away is childish, if true.

Personally, I have no idea why players want to leave Adelaide, especially now.
Oh I absolutely agree that walking away without saying anything is childish, doesn't help the situation at all.

He's a little dog.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Levi434 on October 04, 2017, 08:24:38 PM
lmao

https://twitter.com/7NewsAdelaide/status/915472975796637696


(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DLRpKWxU8AA1DZE.jpg)
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: TomK on October 04, 2017, 09:10:31 PM
Quote from: Levi434 on October 04, 2017, 08:24:38 PM
lmao

https://twitter.com/7NewsAdelaide/status/915472975796637696


(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DLRpKWxU8AA1DZE.jpg)
Hahahahaahahahahahahahahahahahahah send him to Brisbane
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: elephants on October 04, 2017, 09:22:28 PM
Can't believe that gets a run on the fkn news. Says a lot about our commerical media outlets.

Probably not even him ::)
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: nas on October 04, 2017, 09:28:02 PM
Quote from: elephants on October 04, 2017, 09:22:28 PM
Can't believe that gets a run on the fkn news. Says a lot about our commerical media outlets.

Probably not even him ::)

Agree.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: tbagrocks on October 04, 2017, 09:45:52 PM
Quote from: JBs-Hawks on October 03, 2017, 08:02:16 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on October 03, 2017, 07:51:10 PM
7 News clip said Lever lost both his grandparents in the past year and his mum is sick, don't think anyone can hold it against him for wanting to go home.

Tbag can!
::)  Typical, losers that still cant decipher what I actually say and so they just pretend they think they know and miss the mark

If Adelaide offered Jake $4mil over 5 years back in June, he'd already have re-signed at Adelaide and all this dribble wouldn't have to happen. They didn't offer anywhere near that or fast enough

Cant blame a professional trying to maximize their earnings as people have said, once or if he is still there at 30, he's near retirement

This is nothing like those sooks Paddy and SpudGunston. What they did was basically unprofessional. Sure go home and sook, but don't be a "Professional athlete" and go do something else in your home town!
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: RaisyDaisy on October 04, 2017, 11:05:04 PM
Looks like Stewy Dew has secured the GC coaching gig

About time he made the step up, and I reckon he is exactly what that rabble of a club needs

Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: JBs-Hawks on October 05, 2017, 12:33:48 AM
Quote from: tbagrocks on October 04, 2017, 09:45:52 PM
Quote from: JBs-Hawks on October 03, 2017, 08:02:16 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on October 03, 2017, 07:51:10 PM
7 News clip said Lever lost both his grandparents in the past year and his mum is sick, don't think anyone can hold it against him for wanting to go home.

Tbag can!
::)  Typical, losers that still cant decipher what I actually say and so they just pretend they think they know and miss the mark

If Adelaide offered Jake $4mil over 5 years back in June, he'd already have re-signed at Adelaide and all this dribble wouldn't have to happen. They didn't offer anywhere near that or fast enough

Cant blame a professional trying to maximize their earnings as people have said, once or if he is still there at 30, he's near retirement

This is nothing like those sooks Paddy and SpudGunston. What they did was basically unprofessional. Sure go home and sook, but don't be a "Professional athlete" and go do something else in your home town!

Ah makes sense, so you can dog the boys for money but not for family and friends!  ;D
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Capper on October 05, 2017, 02:40:08 AM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on October 04, 2017, 11:05:04 PM
Looks like Stewy Dew has secured the GC coaching gig

About time he made the step up, and I reckon he is exactly what that rabble of a club needs
flower!!!!!

I hope this move doesnt destroy his coaching career
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: RaisyDaisy on October 05, 2017, 09:23:59 AM
Quote from: Capper on October 05, 2017, 02:40:08 AM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on October 04, 2017, 11:05:04 PM
Looks like Stewy Dew has secured the GC coaching gig

About time he made the step up, and I reckon he is exactly what that rabble of a club needs
flower!!!!!

I hope this move doesnt destroy his coaching career

Nah, I reckon Dew is just the hard ass they need to whip all those whingers into shape and get them to harden the flower up
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: shaker on October 05, 2017, 09:37:38 AM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on October 05, 2017, 09:23:59 AM
Quote from: Capper on October 05, 2017, 02:40:08 AM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on October 04, 2017, 11:05:04 PM
Looks like Stewy Dew has secured the GC coaching gig

About time he made the step up, and I reckon he is exactly what that rabble of a club needs
flower!!!!!

I hope this move doesnt destroy his coaching career

Nah, I reckon Dew is just the hard ass they need to whip all those whingers into shape and get them to harden the flower up
Being more than just a hard ass is going to be needed to fix this club it is a daunting prospect for any 1st time coach wish him good luck finally he has put his hand up but it is for the toughest gig in the AFL
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: RaisyDaisy on October 05, 2017, 10:39:17 AM
St Kilda looking at Michael Talia
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: meow meow on October 05, 2017, 12:20:49 PM
Dev Smith to the Dons!
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: meow meow on October 05, 2017, 12:22:21 PM
Blues missing out on Rocky and Smith means they're likely to hang onto Gibbs.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Ricochet on October 05, 2017, 12:26:06 PM
Dons will do very well if they add Stringer and Devon.
Not the big bodied mids they need but there's plenty of talent between those two
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: shaker on October 05, 2017, 12:36:47 PM
Some talk the Cats have some interest in Sam Lloyd
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Torpedo10 on October 05, 2017, 12:48:33 PM
Quote from: meow meow on October 05, 2017, 12:20:49 PM
Dev Smith to the Dons!
Yes!!!

Quote from: Ricochet on October 05, 2017, 12:26:06 PM
Dons will do very well if they add Stringer and Devon.
Not the big bodied mids they need but there's plenty of talent between those two
Would really prefer if we left Stringer to the Cats and grabbed Miles instead. Would be our shopping done for the Trade Period.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: kilbluff1985 on October 05, 2017, 12:51:11 PM
Quote from: Torpedo10 on October 05, 2017, 12:48:33 PM
Quote from: meow meow on October 05, 2017, 12:20:49 PM
Dev Smith to the Dons!
Yes!!!

Quote from: Ricochet on October 05, 2017, 12:26:06 PM
Dons will do very well if they add Stringer and Devon.
Not the big bodied mids they need but there's plenty of talent between those two
Would really prefer if we left Stringer to the Cats and grabbed Miles instead. Would be our shopping done for the Trade Period.

get all 3
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: RaisyDaisy on October 05, 2017, 01:30:46 PM
West Coast has shut down Andrew Gaff trade talk, say there is no substance to the rumours he might go back to Victoria. Won't be traded.

Phew!

Mitch Cleary has told NAB AFL Trade Radio that Adelaide small forward Charlie Cameron is expected to confirm shortly that he wishes to be traded to the Brisbane Lions.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: meow meow on October 05, 2017, 01:46:35 PM
Quote from: Torpedo10 on October 05, 2017, 12:48:33 PM
Quote from: meow meow on October 05, 2017, 12:20:49 PM
Dev Smith to the Dons!
Yes!!!

Quote from: Ricochet on October 05, 2017, 12:26:06 PM
Dons will do very well if they add Stringer and Devon.
Not the big bodied mids they need but there's plenty of talent between those two
Would really prefer if we left Stringer to the Cats and grabbed Miles instead. Would be our shopping done for the Trade Period.

If Stringer knuckles down, pulls his finger out AND gets his shower together he could be a top 5 player in the comp in 2 years. You'd be crazy to want Miles over the enormous upside of the Package.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: shaker on October 05, 2017, 01:59:02 PM
Quote from: meow meow on October 05, 2017, 01:46:35 PM
Quote from: Torpedo10 on October 05, 2017, 12:48:33 PM
Quote from: meow meow on October 05, 2017, 12:20:49 PM
Dev Smith to the Dons!
Yes!!!

Quote from: Ricochet on October 05, 2017, 12:26:06 PM
Dons will do very well if they add Stringer and Devon.
Not the big bodied mids they need but there's plenty of talent between those two
Would really prefer if we left Stringer to the Cats and grabbed Miles instead. Would be our shopping done for the Trade Period.

If Stringer knuckles down, pulls his finger out AND gets his shower together he could be a top 5 player in the comp in 2 years. You'd be crazy to want Miles over the enormous upside of the Package.
Apart from all the knuckles and fingers he seems to be a bit of a problem child otherwise why would the Doggies be flicking him and if you think he could be so good why would they not persist , Dusty was a bit of a loose cannon and look how that turned out ?
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: RaisyDaisy on October 05, 2017, 04:01:37 PM
Saad has nominated Essendon

Looks like the Don's will be very busy in the trade period!
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Ricochet on October 05, 2017, 04:03:23 PM
Damian Barrett says St Kilda has offered Tomlinson a 5 year deal
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: RaisyDaisy on October 05, 2017, 04:03:32 PM
Trengove reportedly sighted at the Doggies already taking pictures with a Doggies top on

Saints have tabled a 5 year deal to Tomlinson, even though he signed on for 2 more years this year
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Jukes on October 05, 2017, 04:47:53 PM
Stringer and 26 for 11
26 for Smith
28 for Saad

I think those trades would be pretty reasonable for the three guys we're closest linked with. Would've preferred Miles but oh well, maybe we can still snag him - would be open to offloading Josh Green and/or Colyer for him.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Jroo on October 05, 2017, 04:51:53 PM
Quote from: Jukes on October 05, 2017, 04:47:53 PM
Stringer and 26 for 11
26 for Smith
28 for Saad

I think those trades would be pretty reasonable for the three guys we're closest linked with. Would've preferedr Miles but oh well, maybe we can still snag him - would be open to offloading Josh Green and/or Colyer for him.
Yeah would've though another mid would've been the priority. Miles wouldn't cost much though, a 3rd rounder would get him for sure
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Jukes on October 05, 2017, 05:03:28 PM
Quote from: JROO8 on October 05, 2017, 04:51:53 PM
Quote from: Jukes on October 05, 2017, 04:47:53 PM
Stringer and 26 for 11
26 for Smith
28 for Saad

I think those trades would be pretty reasonable for the three guys we're closest linked with. Would've preferred Miles but oh well, maybe we can still snag him - would be open to offloading Josh Green and/or Colyer for him.
Yeah would've though another mid would've been the priority. Miles wouldn't cost much though, a 3rd rounder would get him for sure

It should be, but I won't complain too much seeing as we could be bringing in two pretty good players (Stringer and Smith) and a solid player (Saad) for picks 11 and 28. I'm a bit bias because I've owned Miles in ASC for a good half decade, but I rate him pretty highly and he definitely fits a need so I'd put him on equal priority with Stringer and Smith.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: meow meow on October 05, 2017, 05:14:04 PM
Quote from: Jukes on October 05, 2017, 04:47:53 PM
Stringer and 26 for 11
26 for Smith
28 for Saad

I think those trades would be pretty reasonable for the three guys we're closest linked with. Would've preferred Miles but oh well, maybe we can still snag him - would be open to offloading Josh Green and/or Colyer for him.

Pretty sure we'd want 11 for Stringer without having to add our 2nd rounder.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: RaisyDaisy on October 05, 2017, 05:27:43 PM
You guys realise Smith is leaving GWS because he wasn't getting mid time?

He will be a mid at Essendon, which is what you need

He'll spend time forward I'm sure, but he wants to be a mid which is why he's leaving
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: elephants on October 05, 2017, 05:40:36 PM
Quote from: meow meow on October 05, 2017, 01:46:35 PM
Quote from: Torpedo10 on October 05, 2017, 12:48:33 PM
Quote from: meow meow on October 05, 2017, 12:20:49 PM
Dev Smith to the Dons!
Yes!!!

Quote from: Ricochet on October 05, 2017, 12:26:06 PM
Dons will do very well if they add Stringer and Devon.
Not the big bodied mids they need but there's plenty of talent between those two
Would really prefer if we left Stringer to the Cats and grabbed Miles instead. Would be our shopping done for the Trade Period.

If Stringer knuckles down, pulls his finger out AND gets his shower together he could be a top 5 player in the comp in 2 years. You'd be crazy to want Miles over the enormous upside of the Package.

Yeah agree 100%. The upside of Stringer is enormous. Miles is a very limited footballer
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: kilbluff1985 on October 05, 2017, 06:19:19 PM
i don't want Miles get games into Mutch/Clarke
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: jvalles69 on October 05, 2017, 06:33:18 PM
Quote from: elephants on October 05, 2017, 05:40:36 PM
Quote from: meow meow on October 05, 2017, 01:46:35 PM
Quote from: Torpedo10 on October 05, 2017, 12:48:33 PM
Quote from: meow meow on October 05, 2017, 12:20:49 PM
Dev Smith to the Dons!
Yes!!!

Quote from: Ricochet on October 05, 2017, 12:26:06 PM
Dons will do very well if they add Stringer and Devon.
Not the big bodied mids they need but there's plenty of talent between those two
Would really prefer if we left Stringer to the Cats and grabbed Miles instead. Would be our shopping done for the Trade Period.

If Stringer knuckles down, pulls his finger out AND gets his shower together he could be a top 5 player in the comp in 2 years. You'd be crazy to want Miles over the enormous upside of the Package.

Yeah agree 100%. The upside of Stringer is enormous. Miles is a very limited footballer

Stringer could be a Brownlow medalist...or could be Clive Waterhouse...
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Nige on October 05, 2017, 06:35:58 PM
Quote from: jvalles69 on October 05, 2017, 06:33:18 PM
Quote from: elephants on October 05, 2017, 05:40:36 PM
Quote from: meow meow on October 05, 2017, 01:46:35 PM
Quote from: Torpedo10 on October 05, 2017, 12:48:33 PM
Quote from: meow meow on October 05, 2017, 12:20:49 PM
Dev Smith to the Dons!
Yes!!!

Quote from: Ricochet on October 05, 2017, 12:26:06 PM
Dons will do very well if they add Stringer and Devon.
Not the big bodied mids they need but there's plenty of talent between those two
Would really prefer if we left Stringer to the Cats and grabbed Miles instead. Would be our shopping done for the Trade Period.

If Stringer knuckles down, pulls his finger out AND gets his shower together he could be a top 5 player in the comp in 2 years. You'd be crazy to want Miles over the enormous upside of the Package.

Yeah agree 100%. The upside of Stringer is enormous. Miles is a very limited footballer

Stringer could be a Brownlow medalist...or could be Clive Waterhouse...
Don't mention their names in the same sentence again.

Clive was and always will be a legend in a league of his own.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: meow meow on October 05, 2017, 06:55:12 PM
Tippett going to the Suns for basically nothing. Swans happy to give him away if GC pay his contract, freeing up the Swans squeeze.

Duncan going to the Suns too. Maybe as part of the GAJ trade. Suns will have to give up extra so I'm thinking their 2nd rounder or perhaps Rory Thompson to replace Lonergan.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: meow meow on October 05, 2017, 06:59:35 PM
Suns possibly going to ask Barlow to hang up the boots with a year to go.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: SydneyRox on October 05, 2017, 07:27:16 PM
Quote from: meow meow on October 05, 2017, 06:55:12 PM
Tippett going to the Suns for basically nothing. Swans happy to give him away if GC pay his contract, freeing up the Swans squeeze.


Not that I am too angry about this, but surely we get something, 2nd round pick? Tom Lynch?? :P
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: fanTCfool on October 05, 2017, 07:33:22 PM
Quote from: SydneyRox on October 05, 2017, 07:27:16 PM
Quote from: meow meow on October 05, 2017, 06:55:12 PM
Tippett going to the Suns for basically nothing. Swans happy to give him away if GC pay his contract, freeing up the Swans squeeze.


Not that I am too angry about this, but surely we get something, 2nd round pick? Tom Lynch?? :P

Tippett is worth next to nothing, take anything they offer as the cap space is more valuable.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Nige on October 05, 2017, 07:35:47 PM
Quote from: fanTCfool on October 05, 2017, 07:33:22 PM
Quote from: SydneyRox on October 05, 2017, 07:27:16 PM
Quote from: meow meow on October 05, 2017, 06:55:12 PM
Tippett going to the Suns for basically nothing. Swans happy to give him away if GC pay his contract, freeing up the Swans squeeze.


Not that I am too angry about this, but surely we get something, 2nd round pick? Tom Lynch?? :P

Tippett is worth next to nothing, take anything they offer as the cap space is more valuable.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: kilbluff1985 on October 05, 2017, 07:58:21 PM
Quote from: meow meow on October 05, 2017, 06:55:12 PM
Tippett going to the Suns for basically nothing. Swans happy to give him away if GC pay his contract, freeing up the Swans squeeze.

Duncan going to the Suns too. Maybe as part of the GAJ trade. Suns will have to give up extra so I'm thinking their 2nd rounder or perhaps Rory Thompson to replace Lonergan.

interesting wonder if Duncan moving is better or worse for his fantasy scores my guess is better
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: kilbluff1985 on October 06, 2017, 12:56:42 AM
Essendon should go to Richmond and offer pick 11 for 15 & 17
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: tbagrocks on October 06, 2017, 01:10:43 AM
Adelaide had to pay the AFL to get rid of Tippett!

Although his replacement JJ (I'm a loud mouth American) Jenkins for all his attributes, might have been the worst player last Saturday. So I guess the lesson is. Don't pick tall American wannabies?
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: shaker on October 06, 2017, 09:22:29 AM
Quote from: tbagrocks on October 06, 2017, 01:10:43 AM
Adelaide had to pay the AFL to get rid of Tippett!

Although his replacement JJ (I'm a loud mouth American) Jenkins for all his attributes, might have been the worst player last Saturday. So I guess the lesson is. Don't pick tall American wannabies?
I agree he is a loud mouth but did not know he was a yank his comments to your mate Paddy saying he could have had a Brownlow and premiership is commonly known as getting ahead of yourself , if other players went in with that attitude might explain the result
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: meow meow on October 06, 2017, 09:22:41 AM
In the next few days Bevo and Stringer will have a presser saying "ROFL Lolololol we trolled you hard" and announce that The Package has just signed a 5 year contract extension.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Ricochet on October 06, 2017, 10:41:43 AM
Paperwork officially lodged for Trengove to join Bullies
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Money Shot on October 06, 2017, 11:28:50 AM
Quote from: meow meow on October 06, 2017, 09:22:41 AM
In the next few days Bevo and Stringer will have a presser saying "ROFL Lolololol we trolled you hard" and announce that The Package has just signed a 5 year contract extension.
Haha! Imagie that :o
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Toga on October 06, 2017, 02:22:27 PM
Sounds like (as expected) Port Adelaide have declined to match the Bulldogs' offer for Jackson Trengove.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: iZander on October 06, 2017, 05:26:06 PM
Francis wants a trade back to South Australia but is contracted till 2019
Dont mind him leaving, hes gonna be good but if him leaving helps us get Saad, Stringer and Devon then im happy
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: fanTCfool on October 06, 2017, 05:57:19 PM
Brisbane trade #41 to Adelaide for Cameron
Adelaide trade #41 to Essendon for Francis
Essendon trade #41 to Gold Coast for Saad
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Jukes on October 06, 2017, 06:01:15 PM
Quote from: iZander on October 06, 2017, 05:26:06 PM
Francis wants a trade back to South Australia but is contracted till 2019
Dont mind him leaving, hes gonna be good but if him leaving helps us get Saad, Stringer and Devon then im happy

Dang there's that mass exodus that the supp scandal was always going to bring :'(

Francis definitely still has potential, but not getting enough gametime because he usually disappoints when given it and he seems far from our 2018 best 22, so I'm happy to offload him if we can get something back that we will probably directly invest in a Stringer/Saad/Smith deal - Crows first rounder perhaps? :P

All up hopefully we can deal Francis, 11 and 19 and pick up Miles, Stringer, Smith and Saad (with some shuffling around of later picks)
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: kilbluff1985 on October 06, 2017, 06:15:29 PM
lol Lever was told was told not to attend adelaides b&f award tonight
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: kilbluff1985 on October 06, 2017, 06:26:48 PM
essendon should get pick 15 & 17 from tigers for pick 11 then pick 16 in a deal for Francis then they have 15,16, 17, 28 to get trades done
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: shaker on October 06, 2017, 06:30:28 PM
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on October 06, 2017, 06:15:29 PM
lol Lever was told was told not to attend adelaides b&f award tonight
Over the top reaction , that's a good way to attract young interstate players to the club ...... not
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: tbagrocks on October 06, 2017, 06:33:47 PM
There were a few players not happy with Jake including Tex so I think they sore it best Lever stayed away from him

But my football club is behaving like Parliament Question Time, Adelaide need to stop this childs play, man up and move on! It was their own fault the Lever didn't re-sign, stop treating him like the villain!

If the club keep acting like this which they seem to evey year. I might go support the team where I was born, The Lions! No not in Brisbane :P Fitzroy!
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: fanTCfool on October 06, 2017, 06:35:08 PM
tbag switching clubs, ironic  8)
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: fanTCfool on October 06, 2017, 06:40:30 PM
Meanwhile, Sam Gibson cut from Roos
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: kilbluff1985 on October 06, 2017, 06:40:47 PM
Despite playing 130 games straight since debut, AFL.com.au is reporting that North Melbourne has delisted midfielder Sam Gibson.

crazy
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Jroo on October 06, 2017, 06:41:28 PM
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on October 06, 2017, 06:26:48 PM
essendon should get pick 15 & 17 from tigers for pick 11 then pick 16 in a deal for Francis then they have 15,16, 17, 28 to get trades done
Not sure we'd do that
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: shaker on October 06, 2017, 06:42:22 PM
Quote from: tbagrocks on October 06, 2017, 06:33:47 PM
There were a few players not happy with Jake including Tex so I think they sore it best Lever stayed away from him

But my football club is behaving like Parliament Question Time, Adelaide need to stop this childs play, man up and move on! It was their own fault the Lever didn't re-sign, stop treating him like the villain!

If the club keep acting like this which they seem to evey year. I might go support the team where I was born, The Lions! No not in Brisbane :P Fitzroy!
Well said tbag nothing more need be said
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: SydneyRox on October 06, 2017, 06:43:48 PM
Quote from: shaker on October 06, 2017, 06:30:28 PM
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on October 06, 2017, 06:15:29 PM
lol Lever was told was told not to attend adelaides b&f award tonight
Over the top reaction , that's a good way to attract young interstate players to the club ...... not

Not sure why anyone is surprised? They did the a similar thing when Gunston left, not giving him the best young player award he was supposed to win.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Jukes on October 06, 2017, 06:50:59 PM
Picked up a hot rumour on BF (via SEN)

Pick 11, Francis, and Redman for Sloane

Lock it in I reckon
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Ricochet on October 06, 2017, 07:00:24 PM
Where's all this Sloane smoke coming from? Would have thought he'd be zero chance of leaving
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: shaker on October 06, 2017, 07:08:10 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on October 06, 2017, 07:00:24 PM
Where's all this Sloane smoke coming from? Would have thought he'd be zero chance of leaving
Can't remember who it was or where yesterday read an article that Lever's manager is the new list manager at the Pies and has very close ties with Sloane and his family but that was for next year for when his contract is up but seen nothing about this year unless he is fed up with the clubs antics over Lever  :P
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Rids on October 06, 2017, 07:13:13 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on October 06, 2017, 07:00:24 PM
Where's all this Sloane smoke coming from? Would have thought he'd be zero chance of leaving


Where most of the BS rumours start from the last couple of preseasons. Mr Kane Cornes!

https://www.fiveaa.com.au/sport/Adelaide-Crows-Superstar-Could-Be-Open-To-Offers-Says-Kane-Cornes
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Jay on October 06, 2017, 07:19:18 PM
Quote from: tbagrocks on October 06, 2017, 06:33:47 PM
There were a few players not happy with Jake including Tex so I think they sore it best Lever stayed away from him

But my football club is behaving like Parliament Question Time, Adelaide need to stop this childs play, man up and move on! It was their own fault the Lever didn't re-sign, stop treating him like the villain!

If the club keep acting like this which they seem to evey year. I might go support the team where I was born, The Lions! No not in Brisbane :P Fitzroy!
What should we have done differently exactly tbag?
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: RaisyDaisy on October 06, 2017, 07:51:58 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on October 06, 2017, 07:00:24 PM
Where's all this Sloane smoke coming from? Would have thought he'd be zero chance of leaving

Teams are looking to snag him in 12 months time when his contract is up. Nothing will happen now

Cooney had Francis in his best 22 for next year for what it's worth

Lindsay Thomas must be blowing someone to survive all the recent Norf delistings of the past 12 months
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: TomK on October 06, 2017, 09:16:37 PM
Quote from: SydneyRox on October 06, 2017, 06:43:48 PM
Quote from: shaker on October 06, 2017, 06:30:28 PM
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on October 06, 2017, 06:15:29 PM
lol Lever was told was told not to attend adelaides b&f award tonight
Over the top reaction , that's a good way to attract young interstate players to the club ...... not

Not sure why anyone is surprised? They did the a similar thing when Gunston left, not giving him the best young player award he was supposed to win.
Because he didn't rock up?
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: TomK on October 06, 2017, 09:18:08 PM
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on October 06, 2017, 06:15:29 PM
lol Lever was told was told not to attend adelaides b&f award tonight
he wasn't going to come anyway so it doesn't matter, but it was stupid by us telling him not to though.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: TomK on October 06, 2017, 09:20:47 PM
Quote from: Jukes on October 06, 2017, 06:50:59 PM
Picked up a hot rumour on BF (via SEN)

Pick 11, Francis, and Redman for Sloane

Lock it in I reckon
lol
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: enzedder on October 07, 2017, 10:38:08 AM
Saints trade news...
ITK confirmed Saints are interested in Tomlinson but will not be using picks #7 or #8 to get him. Collingwood are also after him.
Have interest in a young Port defender but I don't know who it is.
No updates on if or how we are getting Haynes.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: RaisyDaisy on October 07, 2017, 01:16:12 PM
Quote from: enzedder on October 07, 2017, 10:38:08 AM
Saints trade news...
ITK confirmed Saints are interested in Tomlinson but will not be using picks #7 or #8 to get him. Collingwood are also after him.
Have interest in a young Port defender but I don't know who it is.
No updates on if or how we are getting Haynes.

Where is all this Haynes talk coming from?

Has not been mentioned once by any of the sites, radio, etc
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: RaisyDaisy on October 07, 2017, 05:30:51 PM
Menzel and Gore delisted by Adelaide
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: meow meow on October 07, 2017, 06:11:51 PM
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on October 06, 2017, 06:26:48 PM
essendon should get pick 15 & 17 from tigers for pick 11 then pick 16 in a deal for Francis then they have 15,16, 17, 28 to get trades done

Bombers don't want to give up 11 for Stringer, but you want 16 for Francis? Interesting.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: iZander on October 07, 2017, 06:14:31 PM
Quote from: meow meow on October 07, 2017, 06:11:51 PM
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on October 06, 2017, 06:26:48 PM
essendon should get pick 15 & 17 from tigers for pick 11 then pick 16 in a deal for Francis then they have 15,16, 17, 28 to get trades done

Bombers don't want to give up 11 for Stringer, but you want 16 for Francis? Interesting.
Francis is contracted 2 years, Doggys have already said they dont want stringer, changes the price dramatically
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: enzedder on October 07, 2017, 06:44:35 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on October 07, 2017, 01:16:12 PM
Quote from: enzedder on October 07, 2017, 10:38:08 AM
Saints trade news...
ITK confirmed Saints are interested in Tomlinson but will not be using picks #7 or #8 to get him. Collingwood are also after him.
Have interest in a young Port defender but I don't know who it is.
No updates on if or how we are getting Haynes.

Where is all this Haynes talk coming from?

Has not been mentioned once by any of the sites, radio, etc
Haynes talk started by  jaxons on Saintsational who has correctly and consistently called Saints trades before the media catch up. Has runs on the board... McEvoy, savage exchange of picks and others... said Haynes would likely be a Saint about a week ago... nothing since so either things need to brew and get done or it's gone cold... have to wait and see.
All 3 of the above are from jaxons' posts on SS... turns out the Port player is Logan Austin... watch this space.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: meow meow on October 07, 2017, 06:57:12 PM
Quote from: enzedder on October 07, 2017, 06:44:35 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on October 07, 2017, 01:16:12 PM
Quote from: enzedder on October 07, 2017, 10:38:08 AM
Saints trade news...
ITK confirmed Saints are interested in Tomlinson but will not be using picks #7 or #8 to get him. Collingwood are also after him.
Have interest in a young Port defender but I don't know who it is.
No updates on if or how we are getting Haynes.

Where is all this Haynes talk coming from?

Has not been mentioned once by any of the sites, radio, etc
Haynes talk started by  jaxons on Saintsational who has correctly and consistently called Saints trades before the media catch up. Has runs on the board... McEvoy, savage exchange of picks and others... said Haynes would likely be a Saint about a week ago... nothing since so either things need to brew and get done or it's gone cold... have to wait and see.
All 3 of the above are from jaxons' posts on SS... turns out the Port player is Logan Austin... watch this space.

Austin and Jack Steele are best mates who grew up in the same town.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: lachie_001 on October 07, 2017, 08:04:17 PM
Quote from: iZander on October 07, 2017, 06:14:31 PM
Quote from: meow meow on October 07, 2017, 06:11:51 PM
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on October 06, 2017, 06:26:48 PM
essendon should get pick 15 & 17 from tigers for pick 11 then pick 16 in a deal for Francis then they have 15,16, 17, 28 to get trades done

Bombers don't want to give up 11 for Stringer, but you want 16 for Francis? Interesting.
Francis is contracted 2 years, Doggys have already said they dont want stringer, changes the price dramatically
Don't think your getting pick 16 for Francis, I can't imagine Francis being a high priority for Adelaide, especially since we have Kelly, Doedee and Keath emerging. Adelaide might throw pick 27 at ya, but otherwise you may have to deal with Port or just hold him to his contract.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: kilbluff1985 on October 08, 2017, 09:23:34 AM
think we said we wont trade him unless for a decent deal
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Purple 77 on October 08, 2017, 11:34:33 AM
Heh, I'd certainly like to know what Freo imagines giving up for Jesse, given he's a contracted player.

Still, if Jesse meeting with Fyfe has anything to do with not being happy with the Watts saga, then two things:
1) Goodwin, you've officially created a circus. You flowering idiot, and shame on you for not seeing it coming. I cannot believe you are shoving such a talented player out the door, for a likely second round draft pick.
2) If Jesse is seriously that perturbed about Watts leaving, then really, he should grow up.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: RaisyDaisy on October 08, 2017, 12:22:09 PM
Quote from: Purple 77 on October 08, 2017, 11:34:33 AM
Heh, I'd certainly like to know what Freo imagines giving up for Jesse, given he's a contracted player.

Still, if Jesse meeting with Fyfe has anything to do with not being happy with the Watts saga, then two things:
1) Goodwin, you've officially created a circus. You flowering idiot, and shame on you for not seeing it coming. I cannot believe you are shoving such a talented player out the door, for a likely second round draft pick.
2) If Jesse is seriously that perturbed about Watts leaving, then really, he should grow up.

Why would Jesse meeting with Fyfe have anything to do with Watts?

Sounds like you're jumping to conclusions a bit? Or is it (Hogan unhappy about Watts) just some rumour someone on Demonland is going with?

I don't think Watts being traded will impact the Dees at all tbh. I hope he stays, because he's had to go through so much crap to get here now where Melb is actually getting good, but sometimes you need to make hard calls and break up if it's just not going anywhere, and as much pressure as Jack has endured, it might be time to cut ties and move - would be good for both parties

Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Ricochet on October 08, 2017, 12:35:46 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on October 08, 2017, 12:22:09 PM
Quote from: Purple 77 on October 08, 2017, 11:34:33 AM
Heh, I'd certainly like to know what Freo imagines giving up for Jesse, given he's a contracted player.

Still, if Jesse meeting with Fyfe has anything to do with not being happy with the Watts saga, then two things:
1) Goodwin, you've officially created a circus. You flowering idiot, and shame on you for not seeing it coming. I cannot believe you are shoving such a talented player out the door, for a likely second round draft pick.
2) If Jesse is seriously that perturbed about Watts leaving, then really, he should grow up.

Why would Jesse meeting with Fyfe have anything to do with Watts?

Sounds like you're jumping to conclusions a bit? Or is it (Hogan unhappy about Watts) just some rumour someone on Demonland is going with?

I don't think Watts being traded will impact the Dees at all tbh. I hope he stays, because he's had to go through so much crap to get here now where Melb is actually getting good, but sometimes you need to make hard calls and break up if it's just not going anywhere, and as much pressure as Jack has endured, it might be time to cut ties and move - would be good for both parties
Yeh rumour is quite a few boys are unhappy about Watts being pushed out by the club
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: shaker on October 08, 2017, 12:59:45 PM
The Dee's have been very patient with Watts it seems looking at him he that he has not been willing or unable to go the extra bit to get the best out of his career and himself not all his fault he seems a very laid back dude just his personality maybe , sometimes a change is needed for this to happen.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Purple 77 on October 08, 2017, 01:15:33 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on October 08, 2017, 12:35:46 PM
Yeh rumour is quite a few boys are unhappy about Watts being pushed out by the club

Yarp. Jay Clark, who normally has good info about the Dees, reckons Jesse is unhappy about Watts being pushed out.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Football Factory on October 08, 2017, 01:27:28 PM
I reckon Watts has improved a lot, I like him and feel sorry for him but there has been this stigma attached to him since he arrived at the club as a high draft pick as he did not perform to people's expectations. I wouldn't be trading him away for fark all though.

Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: RaisyDaisy on October 08, 2017, 03:16:27 PM
Quote from: Purple 77 on October 08, 2017, 01:15:33 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on October 08, 2017, 12:35:46 PM
Yeh rumour is quite a few boys are unhappy about Watts being pushed out by the club

Yarp. Jay Clark, who normally has good info about the Dees, reckons Jesse is unhappy about Watts being pushed out.

Yeah it does have a bit of a scapegoat feel to it doesn't it?

I like Watts, but at the the same time I kind of feel like the Watts vs Melb relationship has obviously gotten to a stage where the Dees think they can't do anymore to get more out of him and get his full potential, and it sounds like there is a fair bit of frustration and resentment now coming from the Dees towards him

It does feel like a bit of a cop out, especially considering the pressure Jack has had on him since being drafted and how shower the club has been during his time up until recently, it's a shame he might have to have endured all of that only to be moved on when success was finally around the corner

I feel for the bloke. If he was drafted in any other position other than #1 his career would have been so much more different, and less stressful
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Purple 77 on October 08, 2017, 03:42:22 PM
And it turns out it was a friendly just a catch up with Fyfe  ::)

I hate my pessimistic nature fuelled by the media haha
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: valkorum on October 08, 2017, 10:29:15 PM
Quote from: Purple 77 on October 08, 2017, 03:42:22 PM
And it turns out it was a friendly just a catch up with Fyfe  ::)

I hate my pessimistic nature fuelled by the media haha

You don't meet up for a friendly catch... if you aren't friends.  Surely there has to be more to it
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: kilbluff1985 on October 08, 2017, 11:10:17 PM
Quote from: valkorum on October 08, 2017, 10:29:15 PM
Quote from: Purple 77 on October 08, 2017, 03:42:22 PM
And it turns out it was a friendly just a catch up with Fyfe  ::)

I hate my pessimistic nature fuelled by the media haha

You don't meet up for a friendly catch... if you aren't friends.  Surely there has to be more to it

how do you know they not friends
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Jukes on October 08, 2017, 11:18:52 PM
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on October 08, 2017, 11:10:17 PM
Quote from: valkorum on October 08, 2017, 10:29:15 PM
Quote from: Purple 77 on October 08, 2017, 03:42:22 PM
And it turns out it was a friendly just a catch up with Fyfe  ::)

I hate my pessimistic nature fuelled by the media haha

You don't meet up for a friendly catch... if you aren't friends.  Surely there has to be more to it

how do you know they not friends

They're both Claremont products, Fyfe playing colts in 2009 and league in 2010 and Hogan playing colts in 2011 and 2012 so it's somewhat realistic that they had experience with each other from then
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: GoLions on October 09, 2017, 12:38:44 AM
Schache to the Pies...
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Money Shot on October 09, 2017, 10:21:52 AM
Adelaide trade: Lever & Cameron & 16
Receive: Gibbs & 10 & 18

Brisbane trade: Schache & 18
Receive: Cameron & 16

Carlton trade: Gibbs
Receive: Schache & Kennedy

GWS trade: Kennedy
GWS receive: 27

Melbourne trade: 10 & 27
Receive: Lever

Thoughts on that?

(I know it won't happen as a 5 way trade with some A grade players and high draft picks would just not happen but I think everyone wins here)
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: RaisyDaisy on October 09, 2017, 10:59:26 AM
Not hard to see the Carlton bias there ;)

There's really no point trying to come up with trades lol

Just wait and see what happens :)

Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: GoLions on October 09, 2017, 11:05:41 AM
Nope haha
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Money Shot on October 09, 2017, 11:09:07 AM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on October 09, 2017, 10:59:26 AM
Not hard to see the Carlton bias there ;)

There's really no point trying to come up with trades lol

Just wait and see what happens :)
Hahaha just a bit of fun 8)
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: AaronKirk on October 09, 2017, 12:30:37 PM
Not a trade rumour but Robbie Gray was diagnosed with testicular cancer. Has undergone surgery to remove tumor and now undergoing short course of precautionary chemotherapy.

From AFL trade radio.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Bill Manspeaker on October 09, 2017, 12:41:49 PM
shower news. hope he gets it sorted out
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Ricochet on October 09, 2017, 12:57:46 PM
Terrible news about Robbie. Hopefully the treatment and recovery goes as smooth as possible
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: jvalles69 on October 09, 2017, 01:09:56 PM
Quote from: AaronKirk on October 09, 2017, 12:30:37 PM
Not a trade rumour but Robbie Gray was diagnosed with testicular cancer. Has undergone surgery to remove tumor and now undergoing short course of precautionary chemotherapy.

From AFL trade radio.

As a person you never want to here your own name associated with the C word.  Prob the best form of cancer to get though, will have 1 x hit of chemo and be back on the park within a week.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Ringo on October 09, 2017, 01:10:51 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on October 09, 2017, 12:57:46 PM
Terrible news about Robbie. Hopefully the treatment and recovery goes as smooth as possible
Wishing Robbie all the best and trusting treatment goes well and comes out firing for 2018. 
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Football Factory on October 09, 2017, 02:01:17 PM
Think they found it early thankfully .. Hope all goes well Robbie G

Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Money Shot on October 09, 2017, 02:16:56 PM
Thoughts go out to Robbie Gray and his friends and family. Hopefully they got it early.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: nas on October 09, 2017, 02:58:36 PM
Quote from: Ringo on October 09, 2017, 01:10:51 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on October 09, 2017, 12:57:46 PM
Terrible news about Robbie. Hopefully the treatment and recovery goes as smooth as possible
Wishing Robbie all the best and trusting treatment goes well and comes out firing for 2018.

Yep, terrible news. Hope everything goes well & comes back well in 2018.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: shaker on October 09, 2017, 03:14:17 PM
All the best for Robbie , on other matters Tiges have cut Morris , Hunt and Elton
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: RaisyDaisy on October 09, 2017, 04:27:47 PM
Brendon Ah Chee has nominated WCE
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: nas on October 09, 2017, 04:30:23 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on October 09, 2017, 04:27:47 PM
Brendon Ah Chee has nominated WCE

Thought he might have gone up to the Suns to be with his brother.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: RaisyDaisy on October 09, 2017, 04:31:35 PM
Hawks looking like they'll get Impey
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: RaisyDaisy on October 10, 2017, 10:48:44 AM
Aaron Mullett and Corey Wagner delisted by the Roos

Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Money Shot on October 10, 2017, 11:09:59 AM
Very little interest in Schache from all reports.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Holz on October 10, 2017, 11:46:19 AM
Quote from: Money Shot on October 10, 2017, 11:09:59 AM
Very little interest in Schache from all reports.

im very suprised, unless people are driving down his value to pick him up cheap. North have said they arent looking at him as they want mids. Plus it looks like preuss and or daw will be forward so no space.

But to me he is the perfect example of buy low. Number 2 pick for a reason looked pretty good in his first year. It does seem hard for a spot for him to land.

id like to see north pick him up even if it cost pick 21.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: meow meow on October 10, 2017, 11:59:23 AM
I want to somehow keep Stringer but if we can't then we should definitely have a crack at Schac. Cloke is done, Boyd is best when he can get around the ground. Lions will have 18 and 19 (Rocky compo)

Out: Schache + 19
In: 11

Out: Stringer
In: Schache

Out: 11
In Stringer, Smith

Out: Smith
In: 19
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Money Shot on October 10, 2017, 12:27:49 PM
Quote from: Holz on October 10, 2017, 11:46:19 AM
Quote from: Money Shot on October 10, 2017, 11:09:59 AM
Very little interest in Schache from all reports.

im very suprised, unless people are driving down his value to pick him up cheap. North have said they arent looking at him as they want mids. Plus it looks like preuss and or daw will be forward so no space.

But to me he is the perfect example of buy low. Number 2 pick for a reason looked pretty good in his first year. It does seem hard for a spot for him to land.

id like to see north pick him up even if it cost pick 21.
I would love him at Carlton too.

I would really consider pick 3 for Schache and 12. Don't think that would be unreasonable at all.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: meow meow on October 10, 2017, 01:01:39 PM
Quote from: Money Shot on October 10, 2017, 12:27:49 PM
Quote from: Holz on October 10, 2017, 11:46:19 AM
Quote from: Money Shot on October 10, 2017, 11:09:59 AM
Very little interest in Schache from all reports.

im very suprised, unless people are driving down his value to pick him up cheap. North have said they arent looking at him as they want mids. Plus it looks like preuss and or daw will be forward so no space.

But to me he is the perfect example of buy low. Number 2 pick for a reason looked pretty good in his first year. It does seem hard for a spot for him to land.

id like to see north pick him up even if it cost pick 21.
I would love him at Carlton too.

I would really consider pick 3 for Schache and 12. Don't think that would be unreasonable at all.

Brisbane would say yes before you could finish the question.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: meow meow on October 10, 2017, 01:03:13 PM
Lions would get two of Rayner, LDU, Cerra or Dow, and have Ballendon coming in to replace Schache.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Money Shot on October 10, 2017, 01:16:55 PM
Quote from: meow meow on October 10, 2017, 01:03:13 PM
Lions would get two of Rayner, LDU, Cerra or Dow, and have Ballendon coming in to replace Schache.
Do you think that's a win win situation though or are Carlton losing?
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: RaisyDaisy on October 10, 2017, 01:21:24 PM
I might be in the minority, but I just think Schache will be a flop

It's not exactly uncommon that Top Picks flop, and I reckon he is a near lock to never turn into something
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: meow meow on October 10, 2017, 01:26:49 PM
Quote from: Money Shot on October 10, 2017, 01:16:55 PM
Quote from: meow meow on October 10, 2017, 01:03:13 PM
Lions would get two of Rayner, LDU, Cerra or Dow, and have Ballendon coming in to replace Schache.
Do you think that's a win win situation though or are Carlton losing?

If Rayner gets to pick 3 it's a loss. Otherwise 3 is not a whole lot better than 12. A guy like O'Brien might get to 12 and he's got plenty to offer.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: shaker on October 10, 2017, 01:29:44 PM
I would not mind the Tiges taking a punt on Schache with our 2nd first round pick but the $$ value that was being flung about earlier on in the year was ridiculous 600 or 700K no way he is worth that he has not shown enough to get anywhere near that lets see what unfolds
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Nige on October 10, 2017, 01:31:18 PM
Don't want us touching Schache with 10ft pole.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: kilbluff1985 on October 10, 2017, 01:33:27 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on October 10, 2017, 01:21:24 PM
I might be in the minority, but I just think Schache will be a flop

It's not exactly uncommon that Top Picks flop, and I reckon he is a near lock to never turn into something

think you should give him a year or 2 at a decent club he wants to be at before making a call like that
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: shaker on October 10, 2017, 01:46:49 PM
Quote from: Nige on October 10, 2017, 01:31:18 PM
Don't want us touching Schache with 10ft pole.
Why not as long as we get him for the right price what are we going to get in the draft a KPP and not the best one , now is the time for the Tiges to go for it he could be a great pickup  ;)
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: RaisyDaisy on October 10, 2017, 02:17:03 PM
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on October 10, 2017, 01:33:27 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on October 10, 2017, 01:21:24 PM
I might be in the minority, but I just think Schache will be a flop

It's not exactly uncommon that Top Picks flop, and I reckon he is a near lock to never turn into something

think you should give him a year or 2 at a decent club he wants to be at before making a call like that

That's the whole idea about making a call like that. I don't need to wait, I've seen enough and have decided to make that call now ;)
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: AaronKirk on October 10, 2017, 02:25:37 PM
Given North Melbourne are cutting their list for a total rebuild and it is likely Mumford will be retiring because of his injuries would GWS throw a massive offer to get a deal done to get Goldstein?

Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: kilbluff1985 on October 10, 2017, 02:39:33 PM
i'm seeing posts on facebook north have offered david swallow 3.75mil for 5 years but dunno how legit it is
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: RaisyDaisy on October 10, 2017, 02:41:24 PM
Quote from: AaronKirk on October 10, 2017, 02:25:37 PM
Given North Melbourne are cutting their list for a total rebuild and it is likely Mumford will be retiring because of his injuries would GWS throw a massive offer to get a deal done to get Goldstein?

Recent reports suggest Goldy is staying at Norf (but the media keep writing articles asking why), but in addition to that I'm pretty sure Goldy won't leave VIC. Might be family/religious reasons or something? Not sure exactly, but I am sure it's been said he won't leave Melbourne
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Money Shot on October 10, 2017, 02:45:27 PM
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on October 10, 2017, 02:39:33 PM
i'm seeing posts on facebook north have offered david swallow 3.75mil for 5 years but dunno how legit it is
Wouldn't be surprised that they are targeting him. Surely they are paying a bit overs for someone who isn't an A grade mid?
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Bill Manspeaker on October 10, 2017, 02:50:27 PM
Quote from: Money Shot on October 10, 2017, 02:45:27 PM
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on October 10, 2017, 02:39:33 PM
i'm seeing posts on facebook north have offered david swallow 3.75mil for 5 years but dunno how legit it is
Wouldn't be surprised that they are targeting him. Surely they are paying a bit overs for someone who isn't an A grade mid?
they've got a ton of cash
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: AaronKirk on October 10, 2017, 03:06:59 PM
D.Swallow is contracted till the end of 2019. Highly unlikely
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Bill Manspeaker on October 10, 2017, 03:26:28 PM
Quote from: AaronKirk on October 10, 2017, 03:06:59 PM
D.Swallow is contracted till the end of 2019. Highly unlikely
another reason North are offering that much
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Ringo on October 10, 2017, 03:28:21 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on October 10, 2017, 02:17:03 PM
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on October 10, 2017, 01:33:27 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on October 10, 2017, 01:21:24 PM
I might be in the minority, but I just think Schache will be a flop

It's not exactly uncommon that Top Picks flop, and I reckon he is a near lock to never turn into something

think you should give him a year or 2 at a decent club he wants to be at before making a call like that

That's the whole idea about making a call like that. I don't need to wait, I've seen enough and have decided to make that call now ;)
My 2 cents worth - I seen enough of Schache early to see the talent. He kicked 5 straight in his first intra club game and took 2 great contested marks on Sauce Merrett. Then rightly or wrongly all the expectations and contract talk weighed heavily on his mind which he was unable to handle.
If I was a Victorian club I would take the risk as he will also be back with family to help him so his mental state will improve,
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: AaronKirk on October 10, 2017, 03:29:31 PM
Quote from: Bill Manspeaker on October 10, 2017, 03:26:28 PM
Quote from: AaronKirk on October 10, 2017, 03:06:59 PM
D.Swallow is contracted till the end of 2019. Highly unlikely
another reason North are offering that much

What would North give up to get him?

Would have to be a trade. GC will not want him to go. Would need to be players + picks to get it done. He probably is their best midfielder. I can't see it happening.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Ziplock on October 10, 2017, 04:07:24 PM
Quote from: AaronKirk on October 10, 2017, 03:29:31 PM
Quote from: Bill Manspeaker on October 10, 2017, 03:26:28 PM
Quote from: AaronKirk on October 10, 2017, 03:06:59 PM
D.Swallow is contracted till the end of 2019. Highly unlikely
another reason North are offering that much

What would North give up to get him?

Would have to be a trade. GC will not want him to go. Would need to be players + picks to get it done. He probably is their best midfielder. I can't see it happening.

If they lose Swallow and Ablett after having lost Prestia, Bennell, Caddy and O'Meara... that's literally an entire midfield lol, and when fit a pretty competitive one.

#relocatetotassie

Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: _wato on October 10, 2017, 04:27:42 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on October 10, 2017, 01:21:24 PM
I might be in the minority, but I just think Schache will be a flop

It's not exactly uncommon that Top Picks flop, and I reckon he is a near lock to never turn into something

Yeah you're the minority. Kid is a gun.

Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: RaisyDaisy on October 10, 2017, 04:42:08 PM
Jay Clark saying that Essendon might send Colyer to West Coast which would get them a 2nd or 3rd rounder to use to then secure all of Stringer, Smith and Saad
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Gigantor on October 10, 2017, 06:00:34 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on October 10, 2017, 04:42:08 PM
Jay Clark saying that Essendon might send Colyer to West Coast which would get them a 2nd or 3rd rounder to use to then secure all of Stringer, Smith and Saad

Why do players even sign contracts anymore!
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: meow meow on October 10, 2017, 06:20:25 PM
If Swallow stays at GC he'll be on about 2mil a year soon since he'll be their only good player.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Jukes on October 10, 2017, 06:23:28 PM
I'd happily take pick 30 or 48 for Colyer

Spoiler alert for West Coast supporters: he stinks. Incredible ability to fumble the footy and makes Taylor Adams look like an elite kick. But he's only 26 so plenty of time to improve.

Ironically, one of the few good games he played in 2017 was where he killed Gaff on the outside.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: shaker on October 10, 2017, 06:47:40 PM
Ha ha they just said on sports news the Crows have offered Motlop $600K + a year that is way overs for a guy that does not give an effort every game
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: RaisyDaisy on October 10, 2017, 07:27:14 PM
Quote from: Jukes on October 10, 2017, 06:23:28 PM
I'd happily take pick 30 or 48 for Colyer

Spoiler alert for West Coast supporters: he stinks. Incredible ability to fumble the footy and makes Taylor Adams look like an elite kick. But he's only 26 so plenty of time to improve.

Ironically, one of the few good games he played in 2017 was where he killed Gaff on the outside.

I hope we don't give one of those picks for him

Colyer, Ah Chee, these blokes are worth little and we need a better player than them, just younger versions of what we already have and won't have any real influence on our side

Feel like we have more than enough fringe and young players and need another leader or two, but we're heading to the draft apparently so that's the opposite lol

Won't pay more than what 400K for Lever but will offer Motlop 600k? Makes sense lol
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: TomK on October 10, 2017, 07:37:59 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on October 10, 2017, 07:27:14 PM
Won't pay more than what 400K for Lever but will offer Motlop 600k? Makes sense lol
Our offer to Lever towards the end of the season was a lot more than 400k, people believe the media too much.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: RaisyDaisy on October 10, 2017, 07:44:18 PM
Quote from: TomK on October 10, 2017, 07:37:59 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on October 10, 2017, 07:27:14 PM
Won't pay more than what 400K for Lever but will offer Motlop 600k? Makes sense lol
Our offer to Lever towards the end of the season was a lot more than 400k, people believe the media too much.

Well unless you're actually mates with a player or someone involved the media is all we have to rely on...
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: TomK on October 10, 2017, 07:49:09 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on October 10, 2017, 07:44:18 PM
Quote from: TomK on October 10, 2017, 07:37:59 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on October 10, 2017, 07:27:14 PM
Won't pay more than what 400K for Lever but will offer Motlop 600k? Makes sense lol
Our offer to Lever towards the end of the season was a lot more than 400k, people believe the media too much.

Well unless you're actually mates with a player or someone involved the media is all we have to rely on...
doesn't make it a reliable source?
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: GoLions on October 10, 2017, 07:49:33 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on October 10, 2017, 07:44:18 PM
Quote from: TomK on October 10, 2017, 07:37:59 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on October 10, 2017, 07:27:14 PM
Won't pay more than what 400K for Lever but will offer Motlop 600k? Makes sense lol
Our offer to Lever towards the end of the season was a lot more than 400k, people believe the media too much.

Well unless you're actually mates with a player or someone involved the media is all we have to rely on...
Doesn't mean you believe it all :P

Apparently he was offered more than what Tex is on. I dunno how true that is though, cause would be marginally less than what the Dees offered him. Maybe family was the #1 factor!
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: kilbluff1985 on October 10, 2017, 07:54:21 PM
Rocky only getting 50k more a year than Motlop  :o
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Money Shot on October 10, 2017, 08:04:12 PM
Is Motlop meant to all of a sudden become an Australian or something!?
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Nige on October 10, 2017, 08:05:52 PM
Quote from: Money Shot on October 10, 2017, 08:04:12 PM
Is Motlop meant to all of a sudden become an Australian or something!?
:thinking:
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Ricochet on October 10, 2017, 08:06:21 PM
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on October 10, 2017, 07:54:21 PM
Rocky only getting 50k more a year than Motlop  :o
Think Rocky should just be happy he's getting 650
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: TomK on October 10, 2017, 08:07:26 PM
Quote from: Money Shot on October 10, 2017, 08:04:12 PM
Is Motlop meant to all of a sudden become an Australian or something!?
Do Adelaide have a strict Australian only policy or something? ;)
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: shaker on October 10, 2017, 08:07:41 PM
Quote from: Nige on October 10, 2017, 08:05:52 PM
Quote from: Money Shot on October 10, 2017, 08:04:12 PM
Is Motlop meant to all of a sudden become an Australian or something!?
:thinking:
I'm thinking he left the word ALL out :P
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: kilbluff1985 on October 10, 2017, 08:35:24 PM
Sam Gibsons comment about being delisted

'I think I'm a pretty rational person and it can be pretty hard to fathom that you can be in the best 22 for 130 weeks and finish sixth in the best-and-fairest and not have a contract for next year.'
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: meow meow on October 10, 2017, 08:48:06 PM
Best 22 in a below average team with only Jed Anderson threatening his spot. Impressive! Why hang onto an average 31 year old in a developing team? It's not like he's Waite who is one of the guns of the comp when up and about. There's your rationality pal.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Money Shot on October 11, 2017, 12:09:21 AM
Quote from: shaker on October 10, 2017, 08:07:41 PM
Quote from: Nige on October 10, 2017, 08:05:52 PM
Quote from: Money Shot on October 10, 2017, 08:04:12 PM
Is Motlop meant to all of a sudden become an Australian or something!?
:thinking:
I'm thinking he left the word ALL out :P
Hahahaha my bad "all" Australian :-X
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Money Shot on October 11, 2017, 12:10:21 AM
Quote from: meow meow on October 10, 2017, 08:48:06 PM
Best 22 in a below average team with only Jed Anderson threatening his spot. Impressive! Why hang onto an average 31 year old in a developing team? It's not like he's Waite who is one of the guns of the comp when up and about. There's your rationality pal.
Agree 100%

Won't get a gig at another club purely because he isn't that good a player.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: JBs-Hawks on October 11, 2017, 12:22:42 AM
Quote from: Money Shot on October 11, 2017, 12:10:21 AM
Quote from: meow meow on October 10, 2017, 08:48:06 PM
Best 22 in a below average team with only Jed Anderson threatening his spot. Impressive! Why hang onto an average 31 year old in a developing team? It's not like he's Waite who is one of the guns of the comp when up and about. There's your rationality pal.
Agree 100%

Won't get a gig at another club purely because he isn't that good a player.

I dunno I reckon he'd be a good fit at the cats on a cheap salary. Better then playing Jordan Murdoch!
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Holz on October 11, 2017, 10:34:34 AM
Quote from: meow meow on October 10, 2017, 08:48:06 PM
Best 22 in a below average team with only Jed Anderson threatening his spot. Impressive! Why hang onto an average 31 year old in a developing team? It's not like he's Waite who is one of the guns of the comp when up and about. There's your rationality pal.

He has been a best 22 since 2013 and in that time he has played in 4 final series and 2 prelims.

Bad Call

Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: kilbluff1985 on October 11, 2017, 01:00:46 PM
Essendon could use him imo even if for depth
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Toga on October 11, 2017, 02:47:30 PM
Quote from: Holz on October 11, 2017, 10:34:34 AM
Quote from: meow meow on October 10, 2017, 08:48:06 PM
Best 22 in a below average team with only Jed Anderson threatening his spot. Impressive! Why hang onto an average 31 year old in a developing team? It's not like he's Waite who is one of the guns of the comp when up and about. There's your rationality pal.

He has been a best 22 since 2013 and in that time he has played in 4 final series and 2 prelims.

Bad Call

But North is now in rebuild mode. Gibson doesn't serve a purpose for them anymore, better off getting games into the kids.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: jvalles69 on October 11, 2017, 03:00:09 PM
Quote from: Toga on October 11, 2017, 02:47:30 PM
Quote from: Holz on October 11, 2017, 10:34:34 AM
Quote from: meow meow on October 10, 2017, 08:48:06 PM
Best 22 in a below average team with only Jed Anderson threatening his spot. Impressive! Why hang onto an average 31 year old in a developing team? It's not like he's Waite who is one of the guns of the comp when up and about. There's your rationality pal.

He has been a best 22 since 2013 and in that time he has played in 4 final series and 2 prelims.

Bad Call

But North is now in rebuild mode. Gibson doesn't serve a purpose for them anymore, better off getting games into the kids.

North has shown that no player should be loyal to their club any more.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Money Shot on October 11, 2017, 03:21:51 PM
North are looking like slight front runners over Carlton to land Darcy Lang. Would be a decent pick up for either club I reckon.

Apparently was spotted at north Melbourne yesterday looking around.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: SydneyRox on October 11, 2017, 03:23:21 PM
Quote from: jvalles69 on October 11, 2017, 03:00:09 PM
Quote from: Toga on October 11, 2017, 02:47:30 PM
Quote from: Holz on October 11, 2017, 10:34:34 AM
Quote from: meow meow on October 10, 2017, 08:48:06 PM
Best 22 in a below average team with only Jed Anderson threatening his spot. Impressive! Why hang onto an average 31 year old in a developing team? It's not like he's Waite who is one of the guns of the comp when up and about. There's your rationality pal.

He has been a best 22 since 2013 and in that time he has played in 4 final series and 2 prelims.

Bad Call

But North is now in rebuild mode. Gibson doesn't serve a purpose for them anymore, better off getting games into the kids.

North has shown that no player should be loyal to North any more.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Holz on October 11, 2017, 03:34:49 PM
Quote from: SydneyRox on October 11, 2017, 03:23:21 PM
Quote from: jvalles69 on October 11, 2017, 03:00:09 PM
Quote from: Toga on October 11, 2017, 02:47:30 PM
Quote from: Holz on October 11, 2017, 10:34:34 AM
Quote from: meow meow on October 10, 2017, 08:48:06 PM
Best 22 in a below average team with only Jed Anderson threatening his spot. Impressive! Why hang onto an average 31 year old in a developing team? It's not like he's Waite who is one of the guns of the comp when up and about. There's your rationality pal.

He has been a best 22 since 2013 and in that time he has played in 4 final series and 2 prelims.

Bad Call

But North is now in rebuild mode. Gibson doesn't serve a purpose for them anymore, better off getting games into the kids.

North has shown that no player should be loyal to North any more.

agreed the main reason i don't watch AFl games anymore is i have been soo burnt by what North is doing. Losing i dont mind but the way they are handling this is horrible.

my favorite player of all time Boomer pushed out with another legend in NDS. Then guys like Waite Thomas kept.

rejects brought in from other clubs.

Goldstein put up for trade and then dropped and now keeping him.

Winning the last round by 50+ points to move from pick 1 to pick 4.

I dont think they have any idea whats going on. The only explanation was they assumed they would be picking up all these superstar free agents.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: SydneyRox on October 11, 2017, 03:40:13 PM
agreed Holz, the only thing they could have done worse was to out bid the Pies for Mayne!!
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Gigantor on October 11, 2017, 04:03:06 PM
Still another 6 days left in the trade period, Ben Brown might be put up haha   :P
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Holz on October 11, 2017, 04:05:41 PM
Quote from: Gigantor on October 11, 2017, 04:03:06 PM
Still another 6 days left in the trade period, Ben Brown might be put up haha   :P

probably trading him to the lions for Schace.

Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: valkorum on October 11, 2017, 04:09:19 PM
Quote from: Holz on October 11, 2017, 04:05:41 PM
Quote from: Gigantor on October 11, 2017, 04:03:06 PM
Still another 6 days left in the trade period, Ben Brown might be put up haha   :P

probably trading him to the lions for Schace.

Freo would happily trade you Crozier for Brown - will throw in Sutcliffe and/or Sheridan as well.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Holz on October 11, 2017, 04:38:33 PM
Quote from: valkorum on October 11, 2017, 04:09:19 PM
Quote from: Holz on October 11, 2017, 04:05:41 PM
Quote from: Gigantor on October 11, 2017, 04:03:06 PM
Still another 6 days left in the trade period, Ben Brown might be put up haha   :P

probably trading him to the lions for Schace.

Freo would happily trade you Crozier for Brown - will throw in Sutcliffe and/or Sheridan as well.

I think we chuck in Luke McDonald to get that deal across.

Probably see if we can talk Pavlich out of retirement too to sign him to a 3 year deal.



Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Ziplock on October 11, 2017, 05:09:53 PM
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2017-10-11/host-of-clubs-want-to-bring-zac-back

is it bad that when I read this title I assumed it was Zac Dawson?

#thatshowmuchirateclarke
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Gigantor on October 11, 2017, 05:14:56 PM
Quote from: Ziplock on October 11, 2017, 05:09:53 PM
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2017-10-11/host-of-clubs-want-to-bring-zac-back

is it bad that when I read this title I assumed it was Zac Dawson?

#thatshowmuchirateclarke

Read a good comment today aimed at Taylor Walker,

"If success is measured by grand final appearances then Zac Dawson is more successful than Walker"  ;D
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: TomK on October 11, 2017, 05:55:12 PM
Quote from: Gigantor on October 11, 2017, 05:14:56 PM
Quote from: Ziplock on October 11, 2017, 05:09:53 PM
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2017-10-11/host-of-clubs-want-to-bring-zac-back

is it bad that when I read this title I assumed it was Zac Dawson?

#thatshowmuchirateclarke

Read a good comment today aimed at Taylor Walker,

"If success is measured by grand final appearances then Zac Dawson is more successful than Walker"  ;D
More successful than all of West Coast's squad at the moment as well then? ::)
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Mat0369 on October 11, 2017, 05:57:15 PM
Clarke is a bit of a spud but he is athletically gifted and you can do worse for a 3rd ruck. When I saw he was available I figured he would be ideal for us.

Kreuz was amazing but hasn't been durable. Phillips struggled all year with injury and we had Gorringe and Korcheck retire. We need to draft a project ruck and bring in some cheap vet insurance. Otherwise we're rolling with Levi in the ruck if we cop a couple of injuries.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Gigantor on October 11, 2017, 06:08:11 PM
Quote from: TomK on October 11, 2017, 05:55:12 PM
Quote from: Gigantor on October 11, 2017, 05:14:56 PM
Quote from: Ziplock on October 11, 2017, 05:09:53 PM
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2017-10-11/host-of-clubs-want-to-bring-zac-back

is it bad that when I read this title I assumed it was Zac Dawson?

#thatshowmuchirateclarke

Read a good comment today aimed at Taylor Walker,

"If success is measured by grand final appearances then Zac Dawson is more successful than Walker"  ;D
More successful than all of West Coast's squad at the moment as well then? ::)

Yes that is correct but no West Coast players are currently sooking and throwing out ridiculous comments about being successful
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: fanTCfool on October 11, 2017, 06:11:39 PM
Brisbane officially declined to match PA offer for Rockliff.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Koop on October 11, 2017, 06:12:59 PM
Quote from: fanTCfool on October 11, 2017, 06:11:39 PM
Brisbane officially declined to match PA offer for Rockliff.

Daddy  :-* :-* :-*
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: TomK on October 11, 2017, 06:14:04 PM
Quote from: Gigantor on October 11, 2017, 06:08:11 PM
Quote from: TomK on October 11, 2017, 05:55:12 PM
Quote from: Gigantor on October 11, 2017, 05:14:56 PM
Quote from: Ziplock on October 11, 2017, 05:09:53 PM
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2017-10-11/host-of-clubs-want-to-bring-zac-back

is it bad that when I read this title I assumed it was Zac Dawson?

#thatshowmuchirateclarke

Read a good comment today aimed at Taylor Walker,

"If success is measured by grand final appearances then Zac Dawson is more successful than Walker"  ;D
More successful than all of West Coast's squad at the moment as well then? ::)

Yes that is correct but no West Coast players are currently sooking and throwing out ridiculous comments about being successful
How is it ridiculous? The comment is about FUTURE success, he isn't saying that he is currently successful, do you honestly think Melbourne are better placed for success than Adelaide? Is he not allowed to speak his mind about a player leaving?

This Tex bashing is pathetic!
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Ringo on October 11, 2017, 06:19:39 PM
Still no trades done.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: shaker on October 11, 2017, 06:24:39 PM
Lol Tex bashing
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: TomK on October 11, 2017, 06:28:15 PM
Quote from: shaker on October 11, 2017, 06:24:39 PM
Lol Tex bashing
What's so funny?
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Gigantor on October 11, 2017, 06:29:00 PM
Quote from: TomK on October 11, 2017, 06:14:04 PM
Quote from: Gigantor on October 11, 2017, 06:08:11 PM
Quote from: TomK on October 11, 2017, 05:55:12 PM
Quote from: Gigantor on October 11, 2017, 05:14:56 PM
Quote from: Ziplock on October 11, 2017, 05:09:53 PM
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2017-10-11/host-of-clubs-want-to-bring-zac-back

is it bad that when I read this title I assumed it was Zac Dawson?

#thatshowmuchirateclarke

Read a good comment today aimed at Taylor Walker,

"If success is measured by grand final appearances then Zac Dawson is more successful than Walker"  ;D
More successful than all of West Coast's squad at the moment as well then? ::)

Yes that is correct but no West Coast players are currently sooking and throwing out ridiculous comments about being successful
How is it ridiculous? The comment is about FUTURE success, he isn't saying that he is currently successful, do you honestly think Melbourne are better placed for success than Adelaide? Is he not allowed to speak his mind about a player leaving?

This Tex bashing is pathetic!

Yeah Adelaide is in a better position than Melbourne but not so much that it warrants that comment from Walker. If it was North or Gold Coast or something then yeah feel free to have a dig but Melbourne are on the rise and there is no reason they couldn't be within 3-4 positions of Adelaide next year. Like this year if Melbourne had beaten Adelaide in rd 17, Crows and Melbourne would have finished 5th and 7th, so not really that much in it.

As far as the Tex bashing, he has come out and said some fairly strong and polarizing comments, which he's allowed to. The problem is 99.9% of the country don't have the full story regarding Lever so yeah to some people his comments look like sour grapes and seem unprofessional for a team captain. Maybe Lever is a complete flog and Tex is totally justified but we will never know the full story so some Tex bashing is going to happen.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: TomK on October 11, 2017, 06:37:11 PM
Quote from: Gigantor on October 11, 2017, 06:29:00 PM
Quote from: TomK on October 11, 2017, 06:14:04 PM
Quote from: Gigantor on October 11, 2017, 06:08:11 PM
Quote from: TomK on October 11, 2017, 05:55:12 PM
Quote from: Gigantor on October 11, 2017, 05:14:56 PM
Quote from: Ziplock on October 11, 2017, 05:09:53 PM
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2017-10-11/host-of-clubs-want-to-bring-zac-back

is it bad that when I read this title I assumed it was Zac Dawson?

#thatshowmuchirateclarke

Read a good comment today aimed at Taylor Walker,

"If success is measured by grand final appearances then Zac Dawson is more successful than Walker"  ;D
More successful than all of West Coast's squad at the moment as well then? ::)

Yes that is correct but no West Coast players are currently sooking and throwing out ridiculous comments about being successful
How is it ridiculous? The comment is about FUTURE success, he isn't saying that he is currently successful, do you honestly think Melbourne are better placed for success than Adelaide? Is he not allowed to speak his mind about a player leaving?

This Tex bashing is pathetic!

Yeah Adelaide is in a better position than Melbourne but not so much that it warrants that comment from Walker. If it was North or Gold Coast or something then yeah feel free to have a dig but Melbourne are on the rise and there is no reason they couldn't be within 3-4 positions of Adelaide next year. Like this year if Melbourne had beaten Adelaide in rd 17, Crows and Melbourne would have finished 5th and 7th, so not really that much in it.

As far as the Tex bashing, he has come out and said some fairly strong and polarizing comments, which he's allowed to. The problem is 99.9% of the country don't have the full story regarding Lever so yeah to some people his comments look like sour grapes and seem unprofessional for a team captain. Maybe Lever is a complete flog and Tex is totally justified but we will never know the full story so some Tex bashing is going to happen.
I agree with that all, I don't blame Tex for having confidence in his side going all the way and maybe 'success' was the wrong word by itself, 'potential success' maybe would've been better or just leaving it out all together and saying he chased money.

Tex would obviously know a lot more than the media, and the general public which is why I believe he is more reliable in this situation. He never carried on like this about Dangerfield, and even Charlie this year, Lever must have done something to piss the club off, other than just leaving.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: shaker on October 11, 2017, 06:49:04 PM
Quote from: TomK on October 11, 2017, 06:28:15 PM
Quote from: shaker on October 11, 2017, 06:24:39 PM
Lol Tex bashing
What's so funny?
I'm just finding the whole Lever Walker spat very amusing can't wait till they line up on each other next year if he gets to the Dee's the coach has to send Lever to him it must happen as for all this talk of success counting your chickens usually blows up in your face  :D
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Purple 77 on October 11, 2017, 08:36:53 PM
I mean, I know Zac Clarke ain't great, but with Spencer gone... wouldn't mind that extra insurance. I'd take him at the Dees.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: enzedder on October 11, 2017, 09:00:33 PM
St.Kilda trade update...courtesy of jaxons on SS...

Ok will give you an update.
Haynes wants to come to us.
Tomlinson on the fence between staying or going and choosing Collingwood or us.
We are interested in Devon Smith and pitched to him last week, and would be happy to take him if Bombers can't do a deal.
Clearly we are reluctant to give up picks 7 and 8 so not sure how we do any of these deals.
We may do pick 8 for a later pick swap with GWS for Devon Smith but we want a pick in the teens that GWS don't have yet.
Still likely to go to draft with picks 7 and 8 at this stage, which I maintain is the right move.

Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Ricochet on October 11, 2017, 09:04:23 PM
Quote from: enzedder on October 11, 2017, 09:00:33 PM
St.Kilda trade update...courtesy of jaxons on SS...

Ok will give you an update.
Haynes wants to come to us.
Tomlinson on the fence between staying or going and choosing Collingwood or us.
We are interested in Devon Smith and pitched to him last week, and would be happy to take him if Bombers can't do a deal.
Clearly we are reluctant to give up picks 7 and 8 so not sure how we do any of these deals.
We may do pick 8 for a later pick swap with GWS for Devon Smith but we want a pick in the teens that GWS don't have yet.
Still likely to go to draft with picks 7 and 8 at this stage, which I maintain is the right move.
If Freo find one for Wilson they will

But i dunno where that will come from
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: enzedder on October 11, 2017, 09:13:12 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on October 11, 2017, 09:04:23 PM
Quote from: enzedder on October 11, 2017, 09:00:33 PM
St.Kilda trade update...courtesy of jaxons on SS...

Ok will give you an update.
Haynes wants to come to us.
Tomlinson on the fence between staying or going and choosing Collingwood or us.
We are interested in Devon Smith and pitched to him last week, and would be happy to take him if Bombers can't do a deal.
Clearly we are reluctant to give up picks 7 and 8 so not sure how we do any of these deals.
We may do pick 8 for a later pick swap with GWS for Devon Smith but we want a pick in the teens that GWS don't have yet.
Still likely to go to draft with picks 7 and 8 at this stage, which I maintain is the right move.
If Freo find one for Wilson they will

But i dunno where that will come from
Yeah, there's got to be some action to have more action... looks like the Saints may just hold their trades.
Maybe Aidan Bonar may slide down to us. Looks worth the punt. Hopefully we will land one jet with one of those picks... two would be better but the odds of it happening is unlikely.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Bill Manspeaker on October 11, 2017, 09:30:57 PM
damn Hawthorn for having a better second half of the year. Dow, LDU or Rayner would be really nice
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Ringo on October 11, 2017, 09:48:08 PM
Keeping the Hawthorn link going

Hartung, Hodge, Whitecross and pick 43 traded for Schache

Will take it if true,  But think the pick should be Brisbanes 4th Rounder thoughg.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: GoLions on October 11, 2017, 09:51:55 PM
Quote from: Ringo on October 11, 2017, 09:48:08 PM
Keeping the Hawthorn link going

Hartung, Hodge, Whitecross and pick 43 traded for Schache

Will take it if true,  But think the pick should be Brisbanes 4th Rounder thoughg.
I would rather do Schache as a separate deal tbh. From what happened with smitch and lewis, we could get hodge for peanuts or in the psd. Hartung and whitex are crap.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Ringo on October 11, 2017, 10:18:42 PM
Quote from: GoLions on October 11, 2017, 09:51:55 PM
Quote from: Ringo on October 11, 2017, 09:48:08 PM
Keeping the Hawthorn link going

Hartung, Hodge, Whitecross and pick 43 traded for Schache

Will take it if true,  But think the pick should be Brisbanes 4th Rounder thoughg.
I would rather do Schache as a separate deal tbh. From what happened with smitch and lewis, we could get hodge for peanuts or in the psd. Hartung and whitex are crap.
Just revised my thoughts - Whitecross very injury prone only playing 29 games over last 4 years so added to spud hartung not keen at all.

Also another rumour circulating we may be interested in Anthony Miles.

Will be glad when some of these trades get put to bed and the rumours settle down.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: JBs-Hawks on October 11, 2017, 11:23:44 PM
Quote from: Ringo on October 11, 2017, 09:48:08 PM
Keeping the Hawthorn link going

Hartung, Hodge, Whitecross and pick 43 traded for Schache

Will take it if true,  But think the pick should be Brisbanes 4th Rounder thoughg.

Yes please take Hartung most frustrating player to watch ever!
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: kilbluff1985 on October 12, 2017, 12:19:25 AM
Kane Cornes statements are so useless and the media builds them up as mind blowing like him saying JOM could become a bad trade like no shower sherlock even the Hawks know that it was a risk
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Ziplock on October 12, 2017, 12:24:31 AM
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on October 12, 2017, 12:19:25 AM
Kane Cornes statements are so useless and the media builds them up as mind blowing like him saying JOM could become a bad trade like no shower sherlock even the Hawks know that it was a risk

yeah that wasn't the most insightful comment

1) the hawks knew about his knee issues before trading him in
2) obviously if a player has to retire because of injuries the trade will suck

definitely not a eureka moment.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Jay on October 12, 2017, 12:48:36 AM
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on October 12, 2017, 12:19:25 AM
Kane Cornes statements are so useless and the media builds them up as mind blowing like him saying JOM could become a bad trade like no shower sherlock even the Hawks know that it was a risk
Undoubtedly the worst "journalist" going around at the moment.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: JBs-Hawks on October 12, 2017, 12:48:45 AM
What else can you expect from a bloke who retired straight after hitting a personal milestone and not playing out the year. Don't dog the boys!
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Nige on October 12, 2017, 11:21:15 AM
Lever deal done.

Melbourne ➡️ Jake Lever, Pick 35, 2018 3rd Rd
Adelaide ➡️Pick 10, 2018 1st Rd, 2018 4th Rd
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Nige on October 12, 2017, 11:28:06 AM
Dev Smith to the Bombers also complete now.

Essendon ➡️ Devon Smith, Pick 24, 2018 2nd Rd
GWS Giants ➡️Pick 11, 2018 3rd Rd
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: TomK on October 12, 2017, 11:37:14 AM
Thanks Melbourne :-*
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: iZander on October 12, 2017, 11:46:16 AM
Quote from: Nige on October 12, 2017, 11:28:06 AM
Dev Smith to the Bombers also complete now.

Essendon ➡️ Devon Smith, Pick 24, 2018 2nd Rd
GWS Giants ➡️Pick 11, 2018 3rd Rd
Glad the bombers have there priorities straight! Get in the best of them first!!

Wtf are melb doing..no way they should of payed that...im annoyed the whinging crows got that much.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: TomK on October 12, 2017, 11:48:57 AM
Quote from: iZander on October 12, 2017, 11:46:16 AM
Quote from: Nige on October 12, 2017, 11:28:06 AM
Dev Smith to the Bombers also complete now.

Essendon ➡️ Devon Smith, Pick 24, 2018 2nd Rd
GWS Giants ➡️Pick 11, 2018 3rd Rd
Glad the bombers have there priorities straight! Get in the best of them first!!

Wtf are melb doing..no way they should of payed that...im annoyed the whinging crows got that much.
lol
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: kilbluff1985 on October 12, 2017, 11:49:31 AM
Quote from: Nige on October 12, 2017, 11:28:06 AM
Dev Smith to the Bombers also complete now.

Essendon ➡️ Devon Smith, Pick 24, 2018 2nd Rd
GWS Giants ➡️Pick 11, 2018 3rd Rd

i like that deal not sure we will get Stringer tho without pick 11 but Smith/Saad the priority
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: iZander on October 12, 2017, 11:50:40 AM
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on October 12, 2017, 11:49:31 AM
Quote from: Nige on October 12, 2017, 11:28:06 AM
Dev Smith to the Bombers also complete now.

Essendon ➡️ Devon Smith, Pick 24, 2018 2nd Rd
GWS Giants ➡️Pick 11, 2018 3rd Rd

i like that deal not sure we will get Stringer tho without pick 11 but Smith/Saad the priority

Na we will, dogs dont want him they made that clear. Cant blame them for wanting N11 though
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: kilbluff1985 on October 12, 2017, 11:58:21 AM
yea they will probs take 24
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Ricochet on October 12, 2017, 12:04:46 PM
Melbourne :o
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: enzedder on October 12, 2017, 01:14:09 PM
Essendon win the trade but GWS get another R1 draft pick. A loss for the other 16 clubs.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: RaisyDaisy on October 12, 2017, 01:19:03 PM
Essendon will need to use 24 to secure Saad, so it'll be interesting to see how they get Stringer, if possible from here on out

Melbourne have probably paid overs,  but as we know you need to pay overs nowadays to land a gun, and I don't think it will hurt them too much missing out on next years first rounder because they're a young list anyway so missing out on 1 player in 1 year from the 10-18 range won't hurt them
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Bill Manspeaker on October 12, 2017, 01:36:16 PM
spot on Dr. I mean RD
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Purple 77 on October 12, 2017, 01:54:08 PM
I really am proud of how professional we are off-field. We never f*ck around when it has come to trades in the past few years; if we want a player, we get him.

I laud our professionalism. Our professionalism is what stands out... amongst some other clubs.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Gigantor on October 12, 2017, 02:00:36 PM
Quote from: Purple 77 on October 12, 2017, 01:54:08 PM
I really am proud of how professional we are off-field. We never f*ck around when it has come to trades in the past few years; if we want a player, we get him.

I laud our professionalism. Our professionalism is what stands out... amongst some other clubs.

Yeah Lewis, Bugg, Hogan and Vince showed plenty of professionalism this year  :P

Edit: apologies, you did say off-field :)
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: kilbluff1985 on October 12, 2017, 04:48:19 PM
from fox sports article

Miles has been linked to a plethora of rival clubs, including Gold Coast, Brisbane, Geelong, Carlton and Adelaide, but where he ends up largely depends on trades struck over the next few days.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: kilbluff1985 on October 12, 2017, 06:45:52 PM
Trade paperwork officially lodged:
Port Adelaide trade Jarman Impey, r4 (67) to Hawthorn for r2 (33), r4 (61) and rd 4 2018.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: AaronKirk on October 13, 2017, 01:25:19 PM
Another done trade.

Fremantle trade Hayden Crozier + 2018 4th round selection
Bulldogs trade Pick 40 + Pick 82
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: RaisyDaisy on October 13, 2017, 02:51:33 PM
Brisbane have offered Pick 19 to Adelaide for Cameron

Wilson to Freo should be done by today/Monday according to his manager

Freo will probably use Pick 40 they got from WBD to land Wilson

Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: AaronKirk on October 13, 2017, 03:18:15 PM
Motlop has chosen Port Adelaide according to Peter Ryan from The Age.


Would the Wilson deal be a bit more complex?

Potentially Wilson + GWS pick 11 for Freo pick 5 + Pick 40 (or future 3rd rd pick)

Freo can use pick 11 to potentially get Oscar Allen in the draft.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Purple 77 on October 13, 2017, 03:20:04 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on October 13, 2017, 02:51:33 PM
Brisbane have offered Pick 19 to Adelaide for Cameron

Surely Adelaide accept?
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: AaronKirk on October 13, 2017, 03:32:46 PM
Quote from: Purple 77 on October 13, 2017, 03:20:04 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on October 13, 2017, 02:51:33 PM
Brisbane have offered Pick 19 to Adelaide for Cameron

Surely Adelaide accept?

They want pick 12 I believe.

Now they have missed out on Motlop I think they will happily enforce his contract if they don't get what they want.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Purple 77 on October 13, 2017, 04:02:52 PM
Quote from: AaronKirk on October 13, 2017, 03:32:46 PM
Quote from: Purple 77 on October 13, 2017, 03:20:04 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on October 13, 2017, 02:51:33 PM
Brisbane have offered Pick 19 to Adelaide for Cameron

Surely Adelaide accept?

They want pick 12 I believe.

Now they have missed out on Motlop I think they will happily enforce his contract if they don't get what they want.

Pick 12?! Deary me.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: TomK on October 13, 2017, 04:18:33 PM
Quote from: AaronKirk on October 13, 2017, 03:32:46 PM
Quote from: Purple 77 on October 13, 2017, 03:20:04 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on October 13, 2017, 02:51:33 PM
Brisbane have offered Pick 19 to Adelaide for Cameron

Surely Adelaide accept?

They want pick 12 I believe.

Now they have missed out on Motlop I think they will happily enforce his contract if they don't get what they want.
That's been said nowhere.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: RaisyDaisy on October 13, 2017, 04:18:56 PM
Pick 19 is already overs

Surely they'll end up taking it
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: RaisyDaisy on October 13, 2017, 04:20:06 PM
Miles update

Pask on Miles: We'll have a better understanding next week on him. He's prepared to move if the opportunities for him are greater elsewhere
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Ringo on October 13, 2017, 04:24:06 PM
You would think so RD. Agree 19 is already overs for a player who was picked up in a rookie draft and wanting to return home. (Boy wish we had played as hard ball with some of our go home boys.) Surely Adelaide will realise Pick 19 now is better than nothing next year.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: TomK on October 13, 2017, 04:46:02 PM
Quote from: Ringo on October 13, 2017, 04:24:06 PM
You would think so RD. Agree 19 is already overs for a player who was picked up in a rookie draft and wanting to return home. (Boy wish we had played as hard ball with some of our go home boys.) Surely Adelaide will realise Pick 19 now is better than nothing next year.
I agree that we should take pick 19 but why is him being taken in the Rookie Draft relevant 4 years later? Should have no influence on his worth.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Money Shot on October 13, 2017, 04:47:52 PM
Adelaide out: 16 & second round 18
In: Gibbs

Brisbane out: Schache
In: 16

Carlton out: Gibbs
In: Kennedy & Schache

GWS out: Kennedy
In (ADE) second round 18

Seeing a lot of sites having a trade similar to this going down. What are people's thoughts on it? Gibbs seems happy at Carlton but I'm sure he'd be happy at the crows as well!

Also have Carlton actually said they are interested in Schache or is that just rumours?
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Ringo on October 13, 2017, 04:57:07 PM
Quote from: TomK on October 13, 2017, 04:46:02 PM
Quote from: Ringo on October 13, 2017, 04:24:06 PM
You would think so RD. Agree 19 is already overs for a player who was picked up in a rookie draft and wanting to return home. (Boy wish we had played as hard ball with some of our go home boys.) Surely Adelaide will realise Pick 19 now is better than nothing next year.
I agree that we should take pick 19 but why is him being taken in the Rookie Draft relevant 4 years later? Should have no influence on his worth.
No probs with it Tom Just that in these trades some people like to refer to draft positions. Personally think based on his current form pick in 20s probably more realistic so 19 should be accepted.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Jukes on October 13, 2017, 05:32:24 PM
Quote from: Ringo on October 13, 2017, 04:57:07 PM
Quote from: TomK on October 13, 2017, 04:46:02 PM
Quote from: Ringo on October 13, 2017, 04:24:06 PM
You would think so RD. Agree 19 is already overs for a player who was picked up in a rookie draft and wanting to return home. (Boy wish we had played as hard ball with some of our go home boys.) Surely Adelaide will realise Pick 19 now is better than nothing next year.
I agree that we should take pick 19 but why is him being taken in the Rookie Draft relevant 4 years later? Should have no influence on his worth.
No probs with it Tom Just that in these trades some people like to refer to draft positions. Personally think based on his current form pick in 20s probably more realistic so 19 should be accepted.

I think 19 is certainly overs too, I may be from the Dodoro school of trading but I wouldn't give up anything above pick 30 for him. He's just not that great tbh. As you'll see in my next paragraph, we gave up equivalent of like pick 34/46/whatever for Smith, and it's fair to say Smith > Cameron.



Also guys, I'm just trying to work out the draft points system. From my calcuations we gave up the equivalent to pick 34 if you ignore the swap of 2018 picks, I'm not too sure how you factor those in - half the point value maybe? If so it would become like pick 46 which would be an absolute bargain in terms of point equivalency, but that doesn't seem that right (11 and 46* for Smith, 24 and 26*, *2018 pick seems like it favours GWS a lot more than just pick 34/46 for Smith). Somebody on BF said we gave up equivalent of pick 50+ for Smith so idk.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: RaisyDaisy on October 13, 2017, 06:37:31 PM
SYDNEY midfielder Daniel Robinson has expressed interest in leaving the club as he searches for greater opportunities elsewhere.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: GoLions on October 13, 2017, 06:48:34 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on October 13, 2017, 06:37:31 PM
SYDNEY midfielder Daniel Robinson has expressed interest in leaving the club as he searches for greater opportunities elsewhere.
Big if true
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: fanTCfool on October 13, 2017, 06:54:54 PM
Quote from: GoLions on October 13, 2017, 06:48:34 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on October 13, 2017, 06:37:31 PM
SYDNEY midfielder Daniel Robinson has expressed interest in leaving the club as he searches for greater opportunities elsewhere.
Big if true

Radical if factual
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Koop on October 13, 2017, 07:00:59 PM
Quote from: fanTCfool on October 13, 2017, 06:54:54 PM
Quote from: GoLions on October 13, 2017, 06:48:34 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on October 13, 2017, 06:37:31 PM
SYDNEY midfielder Daniel Robinson has expressed interest in leaving the club as he searches for greater opportunities elsewhere.
Big if true

Radical if factual
Erect if correct
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Purple 77 on October 13, 2017, 07:22:02 PM
Quote from: Koop on October 13, 2017, 07:00:59 PM
Quote from: fanTCfool on October 13, 2017, 06:54:54 PM
Quote from: GoLions on October 13, 2017, 06:48:34 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on October 13, 2017, 06:37:31 PM
SYDNEY midfielder Daniel Robinson has expressed interest in leaving the club as he searches for greater opportunities elsewhere.
Big if true

Radical if factual
Erect if correct

Trade will be immaculate, if accurate.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: TomK on October 13, 2017, 07:23:14 PM
Quote from: Purple 77 on October 13, 2017, 07:22:02 PM
Quote from: Koop on October 13, 2017, 07:00:59 PM
Quote from: fanTCfool on October 13, 2017, 06:54:54 PM
Quote from: GoLions on October 13, 2017, 06:48:34 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on October 13, 2017, 06:37:31 PM
SYDNEY midfielder Daniel Robinson has expressed interest in leaving the club as he searches for greater opportunities elsewhere.
Big if true

Radical if factual
Erect if correct

Trade will be immaculate, if accurate.
Large if not a facade
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: meow meow on October 13, 2017, 07:25:53 PM
Quote from: TomK on October 13, 2017, 07:23:14 PM
Quote from: Purple 77 on October 13, 2017, 07:22:02 PM
Quote from: Koop on October 13, 2017, 07:00:59 PM
Quote from: fanTCfool on October 13, 2017, 06:54:54 PM
Quote from: GoLions on October 13, 2017, 06:48:34 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on October 13, 2017, 06:37:31 PM
SYDNEY midfielder Daniel Robinson has expressed interest in leaving the club as he searches for greater opportunities elsewhere.
Big if true

Radical if factual
Erect if correct

Trade will be immaculate, if accurate.
Large if not a facade

Strewth!...if truth.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: RaisyDaisy on October 13, 2017, 08:08:07 PM
HS reporting Watts has picked Port

Rocky, Motlop and Watts is a pretty impressive coup for a weeks work
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: crowls on October 13, 2017, 08:32:59 PM
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on October 12, 2017, 11:58:21 AM
yea they will probs take 24
Agree KB,  Dogs have really dug themselves a hole with Stringer.   Saad and Wilson add to back depth and free up McGrath.  Would like to see another quality midfielder/onballer. 
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: crowls on October 13, 2017, 08:39:40 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on October 13, 2017, 08:08:07 PM
HS reporting Watts has picked Port

Rocky, Motlop and Watts is a pretty impressive coup for a weeks work
What have Port got to offer. 
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Koop on October 13, 2017, 08:42:18 PM
Quote from: crowls on October 13, 2017, 08:39:40 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on October 13, 2017, 08:08:07 PM
HS reporting Watts has picked Port

Rocky, Motlop and Watts is a pretty impressive coup for a weeks work
What have Port got to offer.

We dont hold the pick the Demons are after, so may require some creative accounting/swapping.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Purple 77 on October 13, 2017, 09:16:25 PM
Quote from: Koop on October 13, 2017, 08:42:18 PM
Quote from: crowls on October 13, 2017, 08:39:40 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on October 13, 2017, 08:08:07 PM
HS reporting Watts has picked Port

Rocky, Motlop and Watts is a pretty impressive coup for a weeks work
What have Port got to offer.

We dont hold the pick the Demons are after, so may require some creative accounting/swapping.

Gut feel, reckon it will be:

Pick 30 + Pick 33

FOR

Watts + Pick 47

I think that's the equivalent of Watts FOR Pick 22 in the end, without checking the math.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Koop on October 13, 2017, 10:19:35 PM
Quote from: Purple 77 on October 13, 2017, 09:16:25 PM
Quote from: Koop on October 13, 2017, 08:42:18 PM
Quote from: crowls on October 13, 2017, 08:39:40 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on October 13, 2017, 08:08:07 PM
HS reporting Watts has picked Port

Rocky, Motlop and Watts is a pretty impressive coup for a weeks work
What have Port got to offer.

We dont hold the pick the Demons are after, so may require some creative accounting/swapping.

Gut feel, reckon it will be:

Pick 30 + Pick 33

FOR

Watts + Pick 47

I think that's the equivalent of Watts FOR Pick 22 in the end, without checking the math.

I'd be happy with that, I'm not sure if the club wants to take a pick in or not so may be next years second rounder instead of one of those picks, not sure though.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Dave085 on October 13, 2017, 10:21:01 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on October 13, 2017, 08:08:07 PM
HS reporting Watts has picked Port

Rocky, Motlop and Watts is a pretty impressive coup for a weeks work

Do Port actually need Rocky and Motlop? They have a good midfield and small forwards. I feel like they are now paying $650k and $500k for 2 players they don't actually need. 
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Koop on October 13, 2017, 10:39:50 PM
Quote from: Dave085 on October 13, 2017, 10:21:01 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on October 13, 2017, 08:08:07 PM
HS reporting Watts has picked Port

Rocky, Motlop and Watts is a pretty impressive coup for a weeks work

Do Port actually need Rocky and Motlop? They have a good midfield and small forwards. I feel like they are now paying $650k and $500k for 2 players they don't actually need.

Small forwards are a concern. Young hasn't been able to perform at AFL level this year. Sam Gray has done a fantastic job but theres definitely a spot on the forward flank for Motlop as I don't rate Neade whatsoever, but has been played out of necessity in the back half of the year.

Rocky not so much, but I'm not going to say no to him either. Probably spells trouble for a guy like Atley trying to get a few games next year though. Heard a few rumours about Rocky playing pre-dominately forward anyway.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Jukes on October 14, 2017, 12:30:50 AM
Quote from: Jukes on October 13, 2017, 05:32:24 PM
Also guys, I'm just trying to work out the draft points system. From my calcuations we gave up the equivalent to pick 34 if you ignore the swap of 2018 picks, I'm not too sure how you factor those in - half the point value maybe? If so it would become like pick 46 which would be an absolute bargain in terms of point equivalency, but that doesn't seem that right (11 and 46* for Smith, 24 and 26*, *2018 pick seems like it favours GWS a lot more than just pick 34/46 for Smith). Somebody on BF said we gave up equivalent of pick 50+ for Smith so idk.

Figured it out. We gave up the equivalent of pick 49 for Smith, which is freaking fantastic (obviously in reality the value isn't in line with the draft points and we gave up a bit more than pick 49-equivalent, but still a ripper trade
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: RaisyDaisy on October 16, 2017, 11:06:06 AM
Looking very likely that Mummy will be forced to retire
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: powersuperkents on October 16, 2017, 11:45:01 AM
Bearing in mind that I'm not familiar with the compensation rules of free agency, why did Geelong receive a first-rounder for Motlop?

Is it based purely on economic measures (accepted contract v. opportunity cost) or player value to the footy club?

Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: GoLions on October 16, 2017, 11:54:28 AM
Quote from: powersuperkents on October 16, 2017, 11:45:01 AM
Bearing in mind that I'm not familiar with the compensation rules of free agency, why did Geelong receive a first-rounder for Motlop?

Is it based purely on economic measures (accepted contract v. opportunity cost) or player value to the footy club?
Apparently it depends on what % tier that player will sit in, compared to the salaries of every other player in the comp. If you sit in the top 5% (or something like that), then the compensation will be a first round pick. Then whatever the next tier is (presumably top 10-15%) will get you end of first round compo. And then maybe like top 20% gets you 2nd round compo.

I dunno the exact numbers, but it's based around that.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: GoLions on October 16, 2017, 11:58:34 AM
Saad to Bombers is donion rings.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Holz on October 16, 2017, 12:01:57 PM
Quote from: GoLions on October 16, 2017, 11:54:28 AM
Quote from: powersuperkents on October 16, 2017, 11:45:01 AM
Bearing in mind that I'm not familiar with the compensation rules of free agency, why did Geelong receive a first-rounder for Motlop?

Is it based purely on economic measures (accepted contract v. opportunity cost) or player value to the footy club?
Apparently it depends on what % tier that player will sit in, compared to the salaries of every other player in the comp. If you sit in the top 5% (or something like that), then the compensation will be a first round pick. Then whatever the next tier is (presumably top 10-15%) will get you end of first round compo. And then maybe like top 20% gets you 2nd round compo.

I dunno the exact numbers, but it's based around that.

its a complete joke.

The worst bit is its the pick after your 1st rounder though.

So if Lions traded a guy who barely is a top 5% in the salary they basically receive pick 2. Then if Richmond lost Dustin Martin they would only get pick 19.

it basically entices the weak teams to let go of established players making them even weaker. Then if a great team loses a superstar they get well below market value.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: meow meow on October 16, 2017, 12:34:24 PM
Frawley was worth pick 2 tbh.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Purple 77 on October 16, 2017, 01:13:57 PM
Quote from: Holz on October 16, 2017, 12:01:57 PM
Quote from: GoLions on October 16, 2017, 11:54:28 AM
Quote from: powersuperkents on October 16, 2017, 11:45:01 AM
Bearing in mind that I'm not familiar with the compensation rules of free agency, why did Geelong receive a first-rounder for Motlop?

Is it based purely on economic measures (accepted contract v. opportunity cost) or player value to the footy club?
Apparently it depends on what % tier that player will sit in, compared to the salaries of every other player in the comp. If you sit in the top 5% (or something like that), then the compensation will be a first round pick. Then whatever the next tier is (presumably top 10-15%) will get you end of first round compo. And then maybe like top 20% gets you 2nd round compo.

I dunno the exact numbers, but it's based around that.

its a complete joke.

The worst bit is its the pick after your 1st rounder though.

So if Lions traded a guy who barely is a top 5% in the salary they basically receive pick 2. Then if Richmond lost Dustin Martin they would only get pick 19.

it basically entices the weak teams to let go of established players making them even weaker. Then if a great team loses a superstar they get well below market value.

It's in part an equalisation strategy. Based on ladder positions, Richmond would be better equipped to lose Dustin Martin, than say Melbourne would be with James Frawley (at the time).

I personally have no issue with basing compensation based off ladder positions, I just have issue with how the compensation tier is worked out.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Bill Manspeaker on October 16, 2017, 01:24:06 PM
god dammit Lachie
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Money Shot on October 16, 2017, 01:56:45 PM
Quote from: Bill Manspeaker on October 16, 2017, 01:24:06 PM
god dammit Lachie
Big loss for the dockers. I would be playing hard ball with him.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: GoLions on October 16, 2017, 01:59:16 PM
Quote from: Money Shot on October 16, 2017, 01:56:45 PM
Quote from: Bill Manspeaker on October 16, 2017, 01:24:06 PM
god dammit Lachie
Big loss for the dockers. I would be playing hard ball with him.
Even bigger loss for the Sainters imho
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Money Shot on October 16, 2017, 02:16:29 PM
Quote from: GoLions on October 16, 2017, 01:59:16 PM
Quote from: Money Shot on October 16, 2017, 01:56:45 PM
Quote from: Bill Manspeaker on October 16, 2017, 01:24:06 PM
god dammit Lachie
Big loss for the dockers. I would be playing hard ball with him.
Even bigger loss for the Sainters imho
Yeah good point!
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: kilbluff1985 on October 16, 2017, 02:51:30 PM
smh thought u meant Neale
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Ricochet on October 16, 2017, 03:06:09 PM
 :'(
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Gigantor on October 16, 2017, 03:11:59 PM
Weller for Matera and a pick?
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Holz on October 16, 2017, 03:49:06 PM
Quote from: Purple 77 on October 16, 2017, 01:13:57 PM
Quote from: Holz on October 16, 2017, 12:01:57 PM
Quote from: GoLions on October 16, 2017, 11:54:28 AM
Quote from: powersuperkents on October 16, 2017, 11:45:01 AM
Bearing in mind that I'm not familiar with the compensation rules of free agency, why did Geelong receive a first-rounder for Motlop?

Is it based purely on economic measures (accepted contract v. opportunity cost) or player value to the footy club?
Apparently it depends on what % tier that player will sit in, compared to the salaries of every other player in the comp. If you sit in the top 5% (or something like that), then the compensation will be a first round pick. Then whatever the next tier is (presumably top 10-15%) will get you end of first round compo. And then maybe like top 20% gets you 2nd round compo.

I dunno the exact numbers, but it's based around that.

its a complete joke.

The worst bit is its the pick after your 1st rounder though.

So if Lions traded a guy who barely is a top 5% in the salary they basically receive pick 2. Then if Richmond lost Dustin Martin they would only get pick 19.

it basically entices the weak teams to let go of established players making them even weaker. Then if a great team loses a superstar they get well below market value.

It's in part an equalisation strategy. Based on ladder positions, Richmond would be better equipped to lose Dustin Martin, than say Melbourne would be with James Frawley (at the time).

I personally have no issue with basing compensation based off ladder positions, I just have issue with how the compensation tier is worked out.

Shouldn't it be based on the quality of the player you lost.

Lets put this up as an example.

Say Bont walked away from the Dogs last year and because they won the flag they would get pick 19.

Would they be in much better shape then say Carlton getting pick 4 for losing gibbs.

The other thing is isn't it highly unfair to other struggling teams? in the above example if gibbs walked away then North move down from 4 to 5. Given their is a big 4 they lose out hard even though they clearly are in much more trouble.

basically you shouldn't be able to benefit from a guy walkin away. In the above example carlton actually probably benefit as not sure they would get pick 4 for gibbs. Dogs get absolutely screwed.

Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: valkorum on October 16, 2017, 05:15:39 PM
Quote from: Gigantor on October 16, 2017, 03:11:59 PM
Weller for Matera and a pick?

A big fat NO (Unless that was pick 2)
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: fanTCfool on October 16, 2017, 06:02:33 PM
Quote from: valkorum on October 16, 2017, 05:15:39 PM
Quote from: Gigantor on October 16, 2017, 03:11:59 PM
Weller for Matera and a pick?

A big fat NO (Unless that was pick 2)

This is Lachie Weller not Lachie Neale, Matera and a pick is a decent offer for a guy who wants to leave.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: valkorum on October 16, 2017, 06:10:17 PM
Quote from: fanTCfool on October 16, 2017, 06:02:33 PM
This is Lachie Weller not Lachie Neale, Matera and a pick is a decent offer for a guy who wants to leave.

Lachie Neale would be a GIANT no - no deal ever

Lachie Weller has increased his disposals by 5 every year (2015 - 10, 2016 - 15, 2017 - 20).  He is extremely fast, he is still only 21 and has played 47 games.  He is worth a lot more than Matera and a pick

Considering we also just offered him a 4 year contract extension.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: fanTCfool on October 16, 2017, 06:43:04 PM
Quote from: valkorum on October 16, 2017, 06:10:17 PM
Quote from: fanTCfool on October 16, 2017, 06:02:33 PM
This is Lachie Weller not Lachie Neale, Matera and a pick is a decent offer for a guy who wants to leave.

Lachie Neale would be a GIANT no - no deal ever

Lachie Weller has increased his disposals by 5 every year (2015 - 10, 2016 - 15, 2017 - 20).  He is extremely fast, he is still only 21 and has played 47 games.  He is worth a lot more than Matera and a pick

Considering we also just offered him a 4 year contract extension.

Players are always worth more in the eyes of fans of that team, but in the real world, you'll probably get a half-decent pick upgrade in a straight swap for Matera.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Money Shot on October 16, 2017, 07:12:43 PM
Weller and pick 5 for picks 2 and 21

21 then used to get Wilson

Is what I would be thinking.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: valkorum on October 16, 2017, 07:22:20 PM
Ricky Nixon saying the following on his facebook live thingo

Weller to GC.
5 to Dees.
Hogan to Freo
GC work out the rest with Dees. Probably 2x20 picks.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: valkorum on October 16, 2017, 07:43:55 PM
Ricky Nixon also saying that Richmond and Freo have spoken about a straight swap of Conca for Balic.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: AaronKirk on October 16, 2017, 07:46:28 PM
Lachie Weller grew up and went to school on the GC. His long term GF is from the GC. His parents whilst they live in Melbourne still have their business which is on the GC and long term plan to move back there.

If this isn't done this year I would bet that he will get there next year.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: enzedder on October 16, 2017, 08:00:27 PM
Was excited that Lachie Weller wanted out as I thought the Saints would be all over it. But no.
Saints look set to do nothing and hold #7 and #8... not unhappy about that... hopefully we'll go for two mids.

Feel for Mummy. GWS will have some cap room and might be able to find room for Tomlinson, Haynes and co going forward.

Motlop comp is a joke and the fact that it comes after the club's first round pick needs to be looked at. Agree with past comments. Big difference between #2 and #19. Some common sense should be applied on a case by case situation.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: valkorum on October 16, 2017, 09:54:15 PM
SportsdaySA Mitch Cleary reporting that its $4 - $5M deal for Lachie.


@SportsdaySA
@cleary_mitch: I understand Lachy Weller has been offered a $4mil 5-year deal by the Gold Coast Suns. The Dockers demanding 2 1st Rd picks


https://twitter.com/SportsdaySA/status/919836673407459328
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: fanTCfool on October 16, 2017, 09:58:24 PM
That's absolutely ludicrous, not a chance they'll get anything like that for him.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Ricochet on October 16, 2017, 10:05:25 PM
Quote from: fanTCfool on October 16, 2017, 09:58:24 PM
That's absolutely ludicrous, not a chance they'll get anything like that for him.
We won't. He's worth one 1st but
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: RaisyDaisy on October 16, 2017, 10:06:40 PM
800k a year when he wants to go home, and 2 first rounders being demanded?

LMAO everything about that is laughable
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Ricochet on October 16, 2017, 10:08:29 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on October 16, 2017, 10:06:40 PM
800k a year when he wants to go home, and 2 first rounders being demanded?

LMAO everything about that is laughable
Fair to say the 800k gave him the nudge to want to come home
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: valkorum on October 16, 2017, 10:13:15 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on October 16, 2017, 10:08:29 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on October 16, 2017, 10:06:40 PM
800k a year when he wants to go home, and 2 first rounders being demanded?

LMAO everything about that is laughable
Fair to say the 800k gave him the nudge to want to come home

I'd move away from home for that, let alone move back home.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: RaisyDaisy on October 16, 2017, 10:13:48 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on October 16, 2017, 10:08:29 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on October 16, 2017, 10:06:40 PM
800k a year when he wants to go home, and 2 first rounders being demanded?

LMAO everything about that is laughable
Fair to say the 800k gave him the nudge to want to come home

Of course it would, but surely GC didn't actually offer that??? That's the part that sounds ridiculous
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: valkorum on October 16, 2017, 10:17:21 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on October 16, 2017, 10:13:48 PM
Of course it would, but surely GC didn't actually offer that??? That's the part that sounds ridiculous

Reported by Mitch Cleary who IMO is a decent operator.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: JBs-Hawks on October 16, 2017, 10:46:56 PM
They'd  have to pay him 800 to meet minimum cap
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Big Mac on October 16, 2017, 11:19:19 PM
Quote from: JBs-Hawks on October 16, 2017, 10:46:56 PM
They'd  have to pay him 800 to meet minimum cap
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Jukes on October 17, 2017, 12:55:58 AM
Millions of dollars...first round picks...is this the same Lachie Weller I've watched this season?
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: meow meow on October 17, 2017, 09:18:25 AM
Quote from: Jukes on October 17, 2017, 12:55:58 AM
Millions of dollars...first round picks...is this the same Lachie Weller I've watched this season?

My thoughts exactly.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: RaisyDaisy on October 17, 2017, 09:50:23 AM
Apparently Weller is the next Dusty, we just don't know it yet
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Money Shot on October 17, 2017, 10:19:27 AM
Mark my words 8)

Adelaide out: 16 & second round 18
In: Gibbs

Brisbane out: Schache
In: 16

Carlton out: Gibbs
In: Kennedy & Schache

GWS out: Kennedy
In (ADE) second round 18
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Ringo on October 17, 2017, 11:28:07 AM
Thoughts on this raised by David Noble this morning on compensation for free agency,

Teams finishing 11 - 18 receive first round compensation picks after Pick 8 with teams finishing 11 - 18 receiving their picks at end of Rd 1.

Noble also confirmed Stef Martin staying and not making plays for Lobbe or Keeffe.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: TomK on October 17, 2017, 11:47:01 AM
Quote from: Money Shot on October 17, 2017, 10:19:27 AM
Mark my words 8)

Adelaide out: 16 & second round 18
In: Gibbs

Brisbane out: Schache
In: 16

Carlton out: Gibbs
In: Kennedy & Schache

GWS out: Kennedy
In (ADE) second round 18
I like it
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Money Shot on October 17, 2017, 11:48:52 AM
Quote from: TomK on October 17, 2017, 11:47:01 AM
Quote from: Money Shot on October 17, 2017, 10:19:27 AM
Mark my words 8)

Adelaide out: 16 & second round 18
In: Gibbs

Brisbane out: Schache
In: 16

Carlton out: Gibbs
In: Kennedy & Schache

GWS out: Kennedy
In (ADE) second round 18
I like it
I know it won't happen but I just think everyone gets what they want here. Carlton need to realise that Gibbs won't play finals at Carlton again and getting in kennedy and Schache will be great for our future.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Ringo on October 17, 2017, 12:22:24 PM
Quote from: Money Shot on October 17, 2017, 11:48:52 AM
Quote from: TomK on October 17, 2017, 11:47:01 AM
Quote from: Money Shot on October 17, 2017, 10:19:27 AM
Mark my words 8)

Adelaide out: 16 & second round 18
In: Gibbs

Brisbane out: Schache
In: 16

Carlton out: Gibbs
In: Kennedy & Schache

GWS out: Kennedy
In (ADE) second round 18
I like it
I know it won't happen but I just think everyone gets what they want here. Carlton need to realise that Gibbs won't play finals at Carlton again and getting in kennedy and Schache will be great for our future.
Do not mind it myself but as you say probably will not happen.  However would like to see Cameron substututed for 16 and all satisfied.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Money Shot on October 17, 2017, 12:36:31 PM
Quote from: Ringo on October 17, 2017, 12:22:24 PM
Quote from: Money Shot on October 17, 2017, 11:48:52 AM
Quote from: TomK on October 17, 2017, 11:47:01 AM
Quote from: Money Shot on October 17, 2017, 10:19:27 AM
Mark my words 8)

Adelaide out: 16 & second round 18
In: Gibbs

Brisbane out: Schache
In: 16

Carlton out: Gibbs
In: Kennedy & Schache

GWS out: Kennedy
In (ADE) second round 18
I like it
I know it won't happen but I just think everyone gets what they want here. Carlton need to realise that Gibbs won't play finals at Carlton again and getting in kennedy and Schache will be great for our future.
Do not mind it myself but as you say probably will not happen.  However would like to see Cameron substututed for 16 and all satisfied.
Doubt Adelaide would be happy to lose Cameron plus a second round pick just for Gibbs. Sadly I think pick 12 or 18+20 will need to be given up to get Cameron this year.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Toga on October 17, 2017, 01:20:31 PM
Quote from: Ringo on October 17, 2017, 11:28:07 AM
Noble also confirmed Stef Martin staying and not making plays for Lobbe or Keeffe.

Rumours I've heard this morning say that Brisbane is making a play for Lobbe still and looking to give up a 3rd or 4th rounder.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: RaisyDaisy on October 17, 2017, 01:23:11 PM
Quote from: Toga on October 17, 2017, 01:20:31 PM
Quote from: Ringo on October 17, 2017, 11:28:07 AM
Noble also confirmed Stef Martin staying and not making plays for Lobbe or Keeffe.

Rumours I've heard this morning say that Brisbane is making a play for Lobbe still and looking to give up a 3rd or 4th rounder.

I think we probably take what Noble said over what a journo (Rucci) is saying
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Koop on October 17, 2017, 02:38:58 PM
Ah Chee an Eagle.

Think we’ve made a bad mistake here, seriously rate Ah Chee as a ball-winner, and reckon West Coast will win this handsomely next year. But don’t blame him looking for more opportunities.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: GoLions on October 17, 2017, 02:40:52 PM
Quote from: Money Shot on October 17, 2017, 12:36:31 PM
Quote from: Ringo on October 17, 2017, 12:22:24 PM
Quote from: Money Shot on October 17, 2017, 11:48:52 AM
Quote from: TomK on October 17, 2017, 11:47:01 AM
Quote from: Money Shot on October 17, 2017, 10:19:27 AM
Mark my words 8)

Adelaide out: 16 & second round 18
In: Gibbs

Brisbane out: Schache
In: 16

Carlton out: Gibbs
In: Kennedy & Schache

GWS out: Kennedy
In (ADE) second round 18
I like it
I know it won't happen but I just think everyone gets what they want here. Carlton need to realise that Gibbs won't play finals at Carlton again and getting in kennedy and Schache will be great for our future.
Do not mind it myself but as you say probably will not happen.  However would like to see Cameron substututed for 16 and all satisfied.
Doubt Adelaide would be happy to lose Cameron plus a second round pick just for Gibbs. Sadly I think pick 12 or 18+20 will need to be given up to get Cameron this year.
They can lose him for nothing next year then :)
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Money Shot on October 17, 2017, 02:42:07 PM
Quote from: GoLions on October 17, 2017, 02:40:52 PM
Quote from: Money Shot on October 17, 2017, 12:36:31 PM
Quote from: Ringo on October 17, 2017, 12:22:24 PM
Quote from: Money Shot on October 17, 2017, 11:48:52 AM
Quote from: TomK on October 17, 2017, 11:47:01 AM
Quote from: Money Shot on October 17, 2017, 10:19:27 AM
Mark my words 8)

Adelaide out: 16 & second round 18
In: Gibbs

Brisbane out: Schache
In: 16

Carlton out: Gibbs
In: Kennedy & Schache

GWS out: Kennedy
In (ADE) second round 18
I like it
I know it won't happen but I just think everyone gets what they want here. Carlton need to realise that Gibbs won't play finals at Carlton again and getting in kennedy and Schache will be great for our future.
Do not mind it myself but as you say probably will not happen.  However would like to see Cameron substututed for 16 and all satisfied.
Doubt Adelaide would be happy to lose Cameron plus a second round pick just for Gibbs. Sadly I think pick 12 or 18+20 will need to be given up to get Cameron this year.
They can lose him for nothing next year then :)
I feel as though they probably will.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Purple 77 on October 17, 2017, 02:57:05 PM
Quote from: Koop on October 17, 2017, 02:38:58 PM
Ah Chee an Eagle.

Think we’ve made a bad mistake here, seriously rate Ah Chee as a ball-winner, and reckon West Coast will win this handsomely next year. But don’t blame him looking for more opportunities.

Nothing to be sneezed at

;D
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: lachie_001 on October 17, 2017, 03:01:07 PM
Could this trade period be anymore boring, can the AFL shorten this to a week already.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Adamant on October 17, 2017, 03:13:05 PM
Looks like Watts has nominated Port.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: valkorum on October 17, 2017, 04:07:16 PM
Quote from: Adamant on October 17, 2017, 03:13:05 PM
Looks like Watts has nominated Port.

Foxsports reporting a trade has been done

Watts for either pick 31 or 34

https://www.foxsports.com.au/afl/jack-watts-trade-afl-trade-news-rumours-melbourne-forward-to-be-traded-to-port-adelaide/news-story/64a697fbbd7fe4645b87ebdb63c20650 
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: SydneyRox on October 17, 2017, 04:23:46 PM
Port clear winners of this trade period!
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Holz on October 17, 2017, 04:25:31 PM
Quote from: Ringo on October 17, 2017, 11:28:07 AM
Thoughts on this raised by David Noble this morning on compensation for free agency,

Teams finishing 11 - 18 receive first round compensation picks after Pick 8 with teams finishing 11 - 18 receiving their picks at end of Rd 1.

Noble also confirmed Stef Martin staying and not making plays for Lobbe or Keeffe.

makes total sense to me. as i said its unfair to others teams who move down from say 3 to 4. getting pick 2 is huge and is better then most players in the AFL. there needs to be a little bit of case by case as not all top 5% players are equal.

A club should be compensated but never walk away winners from a free agent leaving your squad.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Purple 77 on October 17, 2017, 04:29:38 PM
Ugggghhhh... just Pick 31? I fail to see how this improves our list, MFC.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Money Shot on October 17, 2017, 04:40:46 PM
Quote from: valkorum on October 17, 2017, 04:07:16 PM
Quote from: Adamant on October 17, 2017, 03:13:05 PM
Looks like Watts has nominated Port.

Foxsports reporting a trade has been done

Watts for either pick 31 or 34

https://www.foxsports.com.au/afl/jack-watts-trade-afl-trade-news-rumours-melbourne-forward-to-be-traded-to-port-adelaide/news-story/64a697fbbd7fe4645b87ebdb63c20650
31 is what I've seen from the herald sun.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Koop on October 17, 2017, 04:55:24 PM
Quote from: Money Shot on October 17, 2017, 04:40:46 PM
Quote from: valkorum on October 17, 2017, 04:07:16 PM
Quote from: Adamant on October 17, 2017, 03:13:05 PM
Looks like Watts has nominated Port.

Foxsports reporting a trade has been done

Watts for either pick 31 or 34

https://www.foxsports.com.au/afl/jack-watts-trade-afl-trade-news-rumours-melbourne-forward-to-be-traded-to-port-adelaide/news-story/64a697fbbd7fe4645b87ebdb63c20650
31 is what I've seen from the herald sun.
Watts for 31 confirmed by AFL.com.au
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: RaisyDaisy on October 17, 2017, 05:09:28 PM
What a retarded trade by Melbourne

Genuinely feel sorry for Jack and how he has been treated by them over his career
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: kilbluff1985 on October 17, 2017, 05:12:03 PM
Quote from: lachie_001 on October 17, 2017, 03:01:07 PM
Could this trade period be anymore boring, can the AFL shorten this to a week already.

i think less time would be even more boring need more time if anything
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Money Shot on October 17, 2017, 05:12:23 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on October 17, 2017, 05:09:28 PM
What a retarded trade by Melbourne

Genuinely feel sorry for Jack and how he has been treated by them over his career
100% agree.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: elephants on October 17, 2017, 05:14:28 PM
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on October 17, 2017, 05:12:03 PM
Quote from: lachie_001 on October 17, 2017, 03:01:07 PM
Could this trade period be anymore boring, can the AFL shorten this to a week already.

i think less time would be even more boring need more time if anything

Not sure I follow that logic.

How is more happening each day in a shorter space of time less exciting than less happening over a long time.

Make it a week, even a few days would be good imo
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: shaker on October 17, 2017, 05:25:42 PM
Quote from: Money Shot on October 17, 2017, 05:12:23 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on October 17, 2017, 05:09:28 PM
What a retarded trade by Melbourne

Genuinely feel sorry for Jack and how he has been treated by them over his career
100% agree.
Don't feel sorry for him the Dee's have been very patient with him think Jack has been a little to laid back for his own good over his career so far, the change might be just what he needs and well done to Port they have had a very good trade period things are looking up for them watch out Crows there could be a new kid in town  :P 
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: kilbluff1985 on October 17, 2017, 05:28:12 PM
Quote from: elephants on October 17, 2017, 05:14:28 PM
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on October 17, 2017, 05:12:03 PM
Quote from: lachie_001 on October 17, 2017, 03:01:07 PM
Could this trade period be anymore boring, can the AFL shorten this to a week already.

i think less time would be even more boring need more time if anything

Not sure I follow that logic.

How is more happening each day in a shorter space of time less exciting than less happening over a long time.

Make it a week, even a few days would be good imo

clubs will go for less trades with less time

just like XV Comps less time in trade windows wouldnt mean more trades
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: elephants on October 17, 2017, 05:30:53 PM
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on October 17, 2017, 05:28:12 PM
Quote from: elephants on October 17, 2017, 05:14:28 PM
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on October 17, 2017, 05:12:03 PM
Quote from: lachie_001 on October 17, 2017, 03:01:07 PM
Could this trade period be anymore boring, can the AFL shorten this to a week already.

i think less time would be even more boring need more time if anything

Not sure I follow that logic.

How is more happening each day in a shorter space of time less exciting than less happening over a long time.

Make it a week, even a few days would be good imo

clubs will go for less trades with less time

just like XV Comps less time in trade windows wouldnt mean more trades

Very unlikely, it will force clubs to wrap things up more quickly.

Moot point, the trades stay the same - they're just compacted into a smaller time frame = sense of greater activity
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: kilbluff1985 on October 17, 2017, 05:38:20 PM
still think would mean less trades get donei

its like would you rather a tv show go for 6 episodes or 12 i would rather 12
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: fanTCfool on October 17, 2017, 05:49:02 PM
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on October 17, 2017, 05:38:20 PM
still think would mean less trades get donei

its like would you rather a tv show go for 6 episodes or 12 i would rather 12

6 good episodes or 12 long-winded episodes is a better question
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Holz on October 17, 2017, 05:55:00 PM
I see Ele's point

it would probably be like 8 trades in 3 days or 9 trades in 10 days. There is alot of talk in the lead up to trade period anyway. its not like they start talking on day 1.

Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: jvalles69 on October 17, 2017, 06:24:04 PM
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on October 17, 2017, 05:38:20 PM
still think would mean less trades get donei

its like would you rather a tv show go for 6 episodes or 12 i would rather 12

100% would rather watch a 6 episode season than a 12-24 episode season.  In fact I don't watch anything that pumps out 24 eps a season, quality over quantity by a mile every single time.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: crowls on October 17, 2017, 07:31:24 PM
Quote from: valkorum on October 16, 2017, 06:10:17 PM
Quote from: fanTCfool on October 16, 2017, 06:02:33 PM
This is Lachie Weller not Lachie Neale, Matera and a pick is a decent offer for a guy who wants to leave.

Lachie Neale would be a GIANT no - no deal ever

Lachie Weller has increased his disposals by 5 every year (2015 - 10, 2016 - 15, 2017 - 20).  He is extremely fast, he is still only 21 and has played 47 games.  He is worth a lot more than Matera and a pick

Considering we also just offered him a 4 year contract extension.
Love the irony in this.    Freo plan ahead and look to lock in a young player for next 4 years.   Player assesses what it means to him personally and now it is crystallised what he really wants.   Head back to Queensland at end of his first contract.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: kilbluff1985 on October 17, 2017, 10:56:25 PM
PICK SHUFFLE
It is looking more likely that the Jake Stringer trade will be completed thanks to some help from the West Coast Eagles.
The deal would involve the Dogs accepting picks 25 & 30 from Essendon, and then on trading the picks to the Eagles for pick 13.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Jukes on October 17, 2017, 11:15:14 PM
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on October 17, 2017, 10:56:25 PM
PICK SHUFFLE
It is looking more likely that the Jake Stringer trade will be completed thanks to some help from the West Coast Eagles.
The deal would involve the Dogs accepting picks 25 & 30 from Essendon, and then on trading the picks to the Eagles for pick 13.

I've also read that the dogs could add on pick 9 and West Coast add their 2018 first rounder
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: kilbluff1985 on October 17, 2017, 11:30:34 PM
(https://imgur.com/47B1nLu.jpg)


lol wtf
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Jay on October 17, 2017, 11:37:01 PM
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on October 17, 2017, 11:30:34 PM
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lol wtf
Beauty of a contracted player, you can ask for whatever you want. Like Carlton did wanting 19 first round picks for Gibbs last year. It's just posturing, I think we'll accept pick 12.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: fanTCfool on October 17, 2017, 11:41:38 PM
Adelaide has officially lost the plot  :o
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Jukes on October 17, 2017, 11:48:34 PM
Quote from: Jay on October 17, 2017, 11:37:01 PM
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on October 17, 2017, 11:30:34 PM
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lol wtf
Beauty of a contracted player, you can ask for whatever you want. Like Carlton did wanting 19 first round picks for Gibbs last year. It's just posturing, I think we'll accept pick 12.

Gibbs is good though

Cameron is a mediocre player at best
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: GoLions on October 17, 2017, 11:52:36 PM
Quote from: Jay on October 17, 2017, 11:37:01 PM
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on October 17, 2017, 11:30:34 PM
(https://imgur.com/47B1nLu.jpg)


lol wtf
Beauty of a contracted player, you can ask for whatever you want. Like Carlton did wanting 19 first round picks for Gibbs last year. It's just posturing, I think we'll accept pick 12.
That would require us offering pick 12, which won't happen unless you give us 16. Cameron isn't worth a top 20 pick (which we already offered), so Crows will either fold, or we'll get him for free next year.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Mat0369 on October 17, 2017, 11:58:29 PM
Quote from: Jay on October 17, 2017, 11:37:01 PM
Beauty of a contracted player, you can ask for whatever you want. Like Carlton did wanting 19 first round picks for Gibbs last year. It's just posturing, I think we'll accept pick 12.

Apart from the fact it was 2 firsts,  Lever straight up or Cameron and a pick (bet Adelaide are regretting that now) that we were asking for. Add to the fact that Gibbs has 3 years on his contract, not 1 where he can walk for nada next year, Gibbs>>>>Cameron and it's not even close. A late first round pick for Cameron is about right in value. Adelaide either take what they can get for him this year or cop it next year when a pissed Cameron walks into the PSD.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: TomK on October 18, 2017, 12:00:27 AM
It's not like we were expecting Brisbane to accept trading Zorko hahaha, just gotta start negotiations at the highest point and then go down :P

Quote from: GoLions on October 17, 2017, 11:52:36 PM
Quote from: Jay on October 17, 2017, 11:37:01 PM
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on October 17, 2017, 11:30:34 PM
(https://imgur.com/47B1nLu.jpg)


lol wtf
Beauty of a contracted player, you can ask for whatever you want. Like Carlton did wanting 19 first round picks for Gibbs last year. It's just posturing, I think we'll accept pick 12.
That would require us offering pick 12, which won't happen unless you give us 16. Cameron isn't worth a top 20 pick (which we already offered), so Crows will either fold, or we'll get him for free next year.
He's worth more than 16 + himself for 12 though, that's ridiculous, but I suppose he won't have the chance to kick 5 in a prelim up at Brisbane though ;)
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Nige on October 18, 2017, 11:19:01 AM
Harley Balic to the Dees for Pick 66 is done.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Money Shot on October 18, 2017, 11:19:58 AM
Balic to demons for pick 66 is almost done according to trade radio.

Kennedy and GWS' 3rd round pick 2018 for Carlton's second round pick next year is looking possible.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Ricochet on October 18, 2017, 11:43:28 AM
Quote from: Nige on October 18, 2017, 11:19:01 AM
Harley Balic to the Dees for Pick 66 is done.
Steal for Melbourne if he sorts his shower out off field
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: RaisyDaisy on October 18, 2017, 12:15:17 PM
All of a sudden Balic + 31 for Watts + 66 doesn't sounds as bad if you look at it like that
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: valkorum on October 18, 2017, 12:49:58 PM
Lachie Weller to talk to trade radio at 9.15am our time.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: valkorum on October 18, 2017, 12:56:45 PM
Balic only got a 1 year deal with Melbourne
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: kilbluff1985 on October 18, 2017, 01:58:15 PM
Geelong’s Darcy Lang has nominated Carlton as his club of choice.
H/T Anthony Hudson, SEN.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: RaisyDaisy on October 18, 2017, 02:08:48 PM
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on October 18, 2017, 01:58:15 PM
Geelong’s Darcy Lang has nominated Carlton as his club of choice.
H/T Anthony Hudson, SEN.

Well that's going to flower Geelong's chances of getting GAJ - will be harder now because they where hoping Lang would go to GC as part of a deal for GAJ
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Ricochet on October 18, 2017, 02:11:04 PM
Weller to GC
Gary to Gee
Duncan to Freo :P
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Mat0369 on October 18, 2017, 02:20:57 PM
Maybe we can send Graham as part of a deal. He's probably a similar fringe talent to Lang and if they can move him to GC he helps give them an inside mid to help blood the guys coming through.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Money Shot on October 18, 2017, 02:38:21 PM
Quote from: Mat0369 on October 18, 2017, 02:20:57 PM
Maybe we can send Graham as part of a deal. He's probably a similar fringe talent to Lang and if they can move him to GC he helps give them an inside mid to help blood the guys coming through.
Being a fringe talent at Geelong is a bit different to being a fringe talent at Carlton ;)

But I'm saying that Graham dominates in the reserves and if he could get his confidence up would be a great get for Gold Coast!
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: GoLions on October 18, 2017, 02:41:58 PM
Quote from: Money Shot on October 18, 2017, 02:38:21 PM
Quote from: Mat0369 on October 18, 2017, 02:20:57 PM
Maybe we can send Graham as part of a deal. He's probably a similar fringe talent to Lang and if they can move him to GC he helps give them an inside mid to help blood the guys coming through.
Being a fringe talent at Geelong is a bit different to being a fringe talent at Carlton ;)

But I'm saying that Graham dominates in the reserves and if he could get his confidence up would be a great get for Gold Coast!
Fwiw Lang isn't fringe anymore (missed a fair bit with injury and returned straight away in the finals and killed it), he just wants more midfield time.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Ricochet on October 18, 2017, 02:44:24 PM
Sounds like Gibbs talks are really ramping up now

Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: shaker on October 18, 2017, 02:45:41 PM
Really up to Geelong to cough up something for Gaz they have offered very little so far and Gaz is on the end of a million dollar contract and would not blame GC if they made him sit out next year the Cats need to step up or shut up
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: kilbluff1985 on October 18, 2017, 02:49:32 PM
apparently Gibbs wife said she wont go to Adelaide lol
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Dave085 on October 18, 2017, 02:53:14 PM
Quote from: TomK on October 18, 2017, 12:00:27 AM
It's not like we were expecting Brisbane to accept trading Zorko hahaha, just gotta start negotiations at the highest point and then go down :P

Quote from: GoLions on October 17, 2017, 11:52:36 PM
Quote from: Jay on October 17, 2017, 11:37:01 PM
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on October 17, 2017, 11:30:34 PM
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lol wtf
Beauty of a contracted player, you can ask for whatever you want. Like Carlton did wanting 19 first round picks for Gibbs last year. It's just posturing, I think we'll accept pick 12.
That would require us offering pick 12, which won't happen unless you give us 16. Cameron isn't worth a top 20 pick (which we already offered), so Crows will either fold, or we'll get him for free next year.
He's worth more than 16 + himself for 12 though, that's ridiculous, but I suppose he won't have the chance to kick 5 in a prelim up at Brisbane though ;)

He has improved so much since he debut. His speed is so dangerous and once he can improve his disposal efficiency and shot at goal whilst running at speed he will be a very valuable player. Like I said, he has improved a lot, and everything that he needed to improve from one year to another has been evident. I'm confident he will be able to achieve this.

He is worth a top 20 pick.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Mat0369 on October 18, 2017, 02:59:16 PM
Quote from: Money Shot on October 18, 2017, 02:38:21 PM
Being a fringe talent at Geelong is a bit different to being a fringe talent at Carlton ;)

But I'm saying that Graham dominates in the reserves and if he could get his confidence up would be a great get for Gold Coast!

Apart from the fact he is stuck behind Cripps who plays the same role  :P

Graham is an elite VFL level footballer, he so far has been a below average AFL footballer. He is in the mould of a less talented Brock McLean. There probably isn't a whole lot that separates him and Lang in terms of ability, they play different positions and both are pretty meh. Geelong aren't exactly world beaters after their top 3 mids.

Quote from: kilbluff1985 on October 18, 2017, 02:49:32 PM
apparently Gibbs wife said she wont go to Adelaide lol
'
Good luck with that then. She was scapegoated as the reason for the move last year. If they're both happy in Melbourne (which is probably the case if she doesn't want to go to Adelaide) then I can't see a trade getting done.

I'm still trying to figure out how much of this is media BS because it has been a slow trade week or if it's legit that he is happy to move. My dad was watching the news the other night and they were interviewing Bryce at the airport, it was an 'all exclusive that says Gibbs is open to a trade'. It was pretty much Bryce not giving him anything, sounding pissed off and saying he was contracted for two more years at Carlton.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Money Shot on October 18, 2017, 03:02:37 PM
Quote from: Mat0369 on October 18, 2017, 02:59:16 PM
Quote from: Money Shot on October 18, 2017, 02:38:21 PM
Being a fringe talent at Geelong is a bit different to being a fringe talent at Carlton ;)

But I'm saying that Graham dominates in the reserves and if he could get his confidence up would be a great get for Gold Coast!

Apart from the fact he is stuck behind Cripps who plays the same role  :P

Graham is an elite VFL level footballer, he so far has been a below average AFL footballer. He is in the mould of a less talented Brock McLean. There probably isn't a whole lot that separates him and Lang in terms of ability, they play different positions and both are pretty meh. Geelong aren't exactly world beaters after their top 3 mids.
Would Lang even be a walk up start in our 22?
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Mat0369 on October 18, 2017, 03:11:57 PM
Quote from: Money Shot on October 18, 2017, 03:02:37 PM
Would Lang even be a walk up start in our 22?

Probably not, but he fits a position of need better than Graham. I think he becomes one of those depth guys fighting for a spot in the 22 with Kerridge, Thomas, Cuningham, Boekhorst (I'd say Lang means we cut him) and a few others.

We were desperate for half forward flankers that could also push through the midfield. Since SOS has been at Carlton he has gone after a lot of these types on the cheap in hopes of hitting on one or two. Lamb came along pretty well at the end of last year and has found a role in the side. Cuningham has showed he can be a long term prospect in the middle and if we end up with Rayner that's another you can throw in the mix.

I rated Lang a couple of years ago but he seemed to stagnate and could never really take the step past promising. Sometimes a change in scenery helps these guys and it could work in our favour. Smedts is one we probably thought we could rehabilitate and get him to play to his talent level but sometimes they are just nothing more than fringe players.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Bill Manspeaker on October 18, 2017, 03:22:16 PM
Terry points out the obvious. hey Gold Coast... we're willing to help
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Ricochet on October 18, 2017, 03:25:33 PM
Sam McClure saying Aaron Young to GC deal is done
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Money Shot on October 18, 2017, 03:26:57 PM
Quote from: Bill Manspeaker on October 18, 2017, 03:22:16 PM
Terry points out the obvious. hey Gold Coast... we're willing to help
Would be a win win for all clubs involved.

2 and 21 for 7 and 8 then one of them to get Weller.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Ricochet on October 18, 2017, 03:29:42 PM
Quote from: Money Shot on October 18, 2017, 03:26:57 PM
Quote from: Bill Manspeaker on October 18, 2017, 03:22:16 PM
Terry points out the obvious. hey Gold Coast... we're willing to help
Would be a win win for all clubs involved.

2 and 21 for 7 and 8 then one of them to get Weller.
Nah give us Jack Martin


Seems about right though. Weller's worth about 10-15 but GC have to pay slightly overs fro us to release him early
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Ricochet on October 18, 2017, 03:43:59 PM
Adelaide has traded Wigg, N54 and a future 4th rounder to GC for N39
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: TomK on October 18, 2017, 03:46:07 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on October 18, 2017, 03:43:59 PM
Adelaide has traded Wigg, N54 and a future 4th rounder to GC for N39
Decent, hope he does well up there!
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: RaisyDaisy on October 18, 2017, 04:00:16 PM
Let's hope Wigg finally gets a crack at AFL
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Ricochet on October 18, 2017, 05:02:22 PM
Gibbs to Adelaide supposedly done :o
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Purple 77 on October 18, 2017, 05:04:52 PM
Yay! Unexpected drama! At last!
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: TomK on October 18, 2017, 05:11:37 PM
Quote from: Purple 77 on October 18, 2017, 05:04:52 PM
Yay! Unexpected drama! At last!
Nah I've been expecting this for weeks ;)
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: valkorum on October 18, 2017, 05:14:15 PM
Quote from: TomK on October 18, 2017, 05:11:37 PM
Quote from: Purple 77 on October 18, 2017, 05:04:52 PM
Yay! Unexpected drama! At last!
Nah I've been expecting this for weeks ;)

about 52 weeks right?
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Mat0369 on October 18, 2017, 05:15:34 PM
10 and 16 is the only reason I would have traded him. If that's legit we had to do it. Now my guess is we parlay 16 into Lang and Kennedy
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Money Shot on October 18, 2017, 05:17:18 PM
Quote from: Mat0369 on October 18, 2017, 05:15:34 PM
10 and 16 is the only reason I would have traded him. If that's legit we had to do it. Now my guess is we parlay 16 into Lang and Kennedy
Doubt they would give us 10 and 16.

10 and a second round is much more likely.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: TomK on October 18, 2017, 05:19:57 PM
Quote from: valkorum on October 18, 2017, 05:14:15 PM
Quote from: TomK on October 18, 2017, 05:11:37 PM
Quote from: Purple 77 on October 18, 2017, 05:04:52 PM
Yay! Unexpected drama! At last!
Nah I've been expecting this for weeks ;)

about 52 weeks right?
Haha you know it

Quote from: Money Shot on October 18, 2017, 05:17:18 PM
Quote from: Mat0369 on October 18, 2017, 05:15:34 PM
10 and 16 is the only reason I would have traded him. If that's legit we had to do it. Now my guess is we parlay 16 into Lang and Kennedy
Doubt they would give us 10 and 16.

10 and a second round is much more likely.
Sounds like 10 + 16 for Gibbs + future 2nd. Other pick swaps potentially as well, works well for both clubs I think.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Mat0369 on October 18, 2017, 05:27:34 PM

Quote from: Money Shot on October 18, 2017, 05:17:18 PM

Doubt they would give us 10 and 16.

10 and a second round is much more likely.


Quote from: TomK on October 18, 2017, 05:19:57 PM

Sounds like 10 + 16 for Gibbs + future 2nd. Other pick swaps potentially as well, works well for both clubs I think.

It's looking like this. It basically works out to 10 and a bump up on next years second round pick by 5-8 spots for Gibbs. It's probably decent value for both teams. I wouldn't be surprised to see the Wigg pick thrown in there. We might package that and this years third for Kennedy since the points might be more valuable to GWS for academy selections.

How deep is this years draft?
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Purple 77 on October 18, 2017, 05:30:23 PM
Quote from: Mat0369 on October 18, 2017, 05:27:34 PM

Quote from: Money Shot on October 18, 2017, 05:17:18 PM

Doubt they would give us 10 and 16.

10 and a second round is much more likely.


Quote from: TomK on October 18, 2017, 05:19:57 PM

Sounds like 10 + 16 for Gibbs + future 2nd. Other pick swaps potentially as well, works well for both clubs I think.

It's looking like this. It basically works out to 10 and a bump up on next years second round pick by 5-8 spots for Gibbs. It's probably decent value for both teams. I wouldn't be surprised to see the Wigg pick thrown in there. We might package that and this years third for Kennedy since the points might be more valuable to GWS for academy selections.

How deep is this years draft?

Demonland says its crap haha, oh, flower me.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Mat0369 on October 18, 2017, 05:32:27 PM
Quote from: Purple 77 on October 18, 2017, 05:30:23 PM
Demonland says its crap haha, oh, flower me.

Oh great, nothing says success like quantity over quality.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: fanTCfool on October 18, 2017, 05:39:49 PM
Gutted  :'(
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Bill Manspeaker on October 18, 2017, 05:45:08 PM
Quote from: fanTCfool on October 18, 2017, 05:39:49 PM
Gutted  :'(
get really good picks for a player who won't be part of your next push for a flag. laughin mate!
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: fanTCfool on October 18, 2017, 05:57:58 PM
Quote from: Bill Manspeaker on October 18, 2017, 05:45:08 PM
Quote from: fanTCfool on October 18, 2017, 05:39:49 PM
Gutted  :'(
get really good picks for a player who won't be part of your next push for a flag. laughin mate!

Agree we're getting a reasonably good deal, but there's a lot of emotional attachment to the man.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: JBs-Hawks on October 18, 2017, 05:59:02 PM
Quote from: Bill Manspeaker on October 18, 2017, 05:45:08 PM
Quote from: fanTCfool on October 18, 2017, 05:39:49 PM
Gutted  :'(
get really good picks for a player who won't be part of your next push for a flag. laughin mate!

Carlton will play finals again before Gibbs retires!
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Torpedo10 on October 18, 2017, 06:01:40 PM
Gibbs will be 29 for next season, so I'd say it's fair to give him at least another four. Surely the Blues will be competing sooner rather than later?

Another deal that goes the Crows way, with this one, Lever & should they also get 12 for Cameron it would almost be fair to say they've won this trade period.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Jukes on October 18, 2017, 06:02:37 PM
Quote from: Bill Manspeaker on October 18, 2017, 05:45:08 PM
Quote from: fanTCfool on October 18, 2017, 05:39:49 PM
Gutted  :'(
get really good picks for a player who won't be part of your next push for a flag. laughin mate!

*insert generic comment about carlton sucking and will never be relevant again*

Hopefully this means more gametime for Nick Graham
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Bill Manspeaker on October 18, 2017, 06:02:52 PM
Quote from: JBs-Hawks on October 18, 2017, 05:59:02 PM
Quote from: Bill Manspeaker on October 18, 2017, 05:45:08 PM
Quote from: fanTCfool on October 18, 2017, 05:39:49 PM
Gutted  :'(
get really good picks for a player who won't be part of your next push for a flag. laughin mate!

Carlton will play finals again before Gibbs retires!
they might but I don't see em in the window and this'll set em up for longer
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Mat0369 on October 18, 2017, 07:20:31 PM
https://twitter.com/SamLandsberger/status/920537844816289793

Well then....
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: shaker on October 18, 2017, 07:38:59 PM
Don't believe they could both walk out of there thinking different things maybe a bit more media BS
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Bill Manspeaker on October 18, 2017, 08:47:46 PM
Saints looking to pick up Logan Austin
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Jay on October 18, 2017, 10:09:46 PM
Quote from: shaker on October 18, 2017, 07:38:59 PM
Don't believe they could both walk out of there thinking different things maybe a bit more media BS
I find it hard to believe that after 12 months of discussions they could have a 'misunderstanding' haha.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: elephants on October 19, 2017, 04:34:02 AM
Quote from: Jay on October 18, 2017, 10:09:46 PM
Quote from: shaker on October 18, 2017, 07:38:59 PM
Don't believe they could both walk out of there thinking different things maybe a bit more media BS
I find it hard to believe that after 12 months of discussions they could have a 'misunderstanding' haha.

Only explanation is it was lost in translation between South Australian and Victorian. Can be difficult languages to comprehend sometimes :P
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Money Shot on October 19, 2017, 10:24:48 AM
10 and 16 for Gibbs.

A swap of next years second round picks and some later picks also involved.

Carlton have won here. I'll miss Gibbsy though :(
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Purple 77 on October 19, 2017, 10:29:58 AM
Yeah Carlton have won for sure, not everyday you get two first rounders out of a 29 yo. Kinda surprised Adelaide paid it tbh, probably was greased up by Melbourne :P
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Jay on October 19, 2017, 10:32:22 AM
Bryce :-*
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Bill Manspeaker on October 19, 2017, 10:33:03 AM
Carlton laughing all the way to the bank
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: LF on October 19, 2017, 10:34:48 AM
Should see some other trades drop now this one is done
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: meow meow on October 19, 2017, 10:36:54 AM
10 + 16 + (35) + 73 for Gibbs + (21) + (39) + 77

Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Mat0369 on October 19, 2017, 10:40:35 AM
Quote from: Purple 77 on October 19, 2017, 10:29:58 AM
Yeah Carlton have won for sure, not everyday you get two first rounders out of a 29 yo. Kinda surprised Adelaide paid it tbh, probably was greased up by Melbourne :P

When you think about it the price isn't really that steep. It's a proven gun that's capable of taking them to the next level over two lottery tickets into a crapshoot. I think we value draft picks to highly compared to proven talent. For every Lewis, Cyril and Cripps there is an Oakley-Nicholls, Lucas and Bootsma.

Add to the fact that it's not a deep draft and you aren't likely to get guys of Gibbs caliber in that range of the draft it's a no brainer.

I'm assuming the second round pick was a sticking point. We need points for next years draft to grab Ben Silvagni who has first round talent.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: meow meow on October 19, 2017, 10:43:35 AM
Gibbs has 100 decent games left in him. At least. Gun. Worth it.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: crowls on October 19, 2017, 10:44:35 AM
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on October 18, 2017, 02:49:32 PM
apparently Gibbs wife said she wont go to Adelaide lol
saw this on the news last night and almost pissed myself laughing.   No doubt women are different breed to men.   What has changed in last 12 months.  New besty at playgroup?   who knows....
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Jroo on October 19, 2017, 10:56:06 AM
Quote from: meow meow on October 19, 2017, 10:43:35 AM
Gibbs has 100 decent games left in him. At least. Gun. Worth it.
Not as good as Rocky :P but it's a great deal for Adelaide. They're basically giving up #10 for him
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: crowls on October 19, 2017, 11:22:23 AM
Quote from: JROO8 on October 19, 2017, 10:56:06 AM
Quote from: meow meow on October 19, 2017, 10:43:35 AM
Gibbs has 100 decent games left in him. At least. Gun. Worth it.
Not as good as Rocky :P but it's a great deal for Adelaide. They're basically giving up #10 for him


i was thinking Adelaide may have peaked... or outperformed.    Though Gibbs with Sloane and the Crouch boys makes for a bloody good midfield.  then i checked the squad age profile and they still have a couple of years production from key players.     Maybe it was just wishful thinking on my part as crows supporters piss me off.    ;D
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: meow meow on October 19, 2017, 11:27:10 AM
Iggs must overrate how they're going to go next year.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Torpedo10 on October 19, 2017, 11:40:53 AM
Quote from: meow meow on October 19, 2017, 11:27:10 AM
Iggs must overrate how they're going to go next year.
That deal is a shocker on face value, they are destroying the Suns.

However, if the Eagles finish mid-low table against GC nab a top pick in what is said to be the best draft in years. Could be worth it.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: meow meow on October 19, 2017, 11:42:16 AM
Quote from: Torpedo10 on October 19, 2017, 11:40:53 AM
Quote from: meow meow on October 19, 2017, 11:27:10 AM
Iggs must overrate how they're going to go next year.
That deal is a shocker on face value, they are destroying the Suns.

However, if the Eagles finish mid-low table against GC nab a top pick in what is said to be the best draft in years. Could be worth it.

Is it GC's 2nd round or Essendon's for Saad?
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: meow meow on October 19, 2017, 11:48:18 AM
Quote from: meow meow on October 19, 2017, 11:27:10 AM
Iggs must overrate how they're going to go next year.

GC give: 21, 26, 37 + future 2nd (19ish)
WC give: 50 + future 1st (8ish?)
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Ricochet on October 19, 2017, 11:52:48 AM
Reckon we'll see that future first come to us for Weller
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: meow meow on October 19, 2017, 12:02:00 PM
High price to pay for Weller and 50. WC will nail someone as good as Weller with one of those picks and then have 3 more cracks at it.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: RaisyDaisy on October 19, 2017, 12:07:47 PM
Recent history suggests our 1st rounder is usually somewhere in the 11-14 range, so I don't mind us giving that up actually as it allows us to now grab several good prospects in the 2nd round, and we need quantity now too so I like it
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: RaisyDaisy on October 19, 2017, 12:09:11 PM
LOL Freo

Suns have been told that Eagles’ future first-round pick won’t get the Weller deal done. Must be top 4 pick
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: RaisyDaisy on October 19, 2017, 12:12:22 PM
Young to Suns official for 2018 4th rounder

As for the WCE deal, we actually get the Suns 2nd rounder next year, and if they finish bottom like we think or close to it, that could be a pick in the 18-21 range which is only a slide down of 7-8 picks

To get all the 2nd rounders this year too, yep I like it a lot
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: meow meow on October 19, 2017, 12:12:37 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on October 19, 2017, 12:07:47 PM
Recent history suggests our 1st rounder is usually somewhere in the 11-14 range, so I don't mind us giving that up actually as it allows us to now grab several good prospects in the 2nd round, and we need quantity now too so I like it

Can't see you finishing 5th-8th next year so think it'll be a little earlier. Still a decent outcome if you can get Oscar this year.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: GoLions on October 19, 2017, 12:14:05 PM
Suns on-trade Crows 2018 R4 selection for Young

Logan Austin to the Saints happening now as well
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Ricochet on October 19, 2017, 12:16:14 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on October 19, 2017, 12:09:11 PM
LOL Freo

Suns have been told that Eagles’ future first-round pick won’t get the Weller deal done. Must be top 4 pick
;D
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: TomK on October 19, 2017, 12:22:46 PM
Quote from: Jay on October 19, 2017, 10:32:22 AM
Bryce :-*
:-* :-* :-*

Really happy with that deal
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: meow meow on October 19, 2017, 12:35:01 PM
Sam Gibson to the Crows for 91
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: TomK on October 19, 2017, 12:36:50 PM
Quote from: meow meow on October 19, 2017, 12:35:01 PM
Sam Gibson to the Crows for 91
Not too bad, he should be pretty solid depth and we get him for basically nothing
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: valkorum on October 19, 2017, 12:55:44 PM
Wilson deal done

Freo Get: Wilson and 71
GWS Get: 57 and 2018 Rd 2
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: kilbluff1985 on October 19, 2017, 01:04:11 PM
Quote from: valkorum on October 19, 2017, 12:55:44 PM
Wilson deal done

Freo Get: Wilson and 71
GWS Get: 57 and 2018 Rd 2

they get Wilson for that but we paid more for Saad lol
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: GoLions on October 19, 2017, 01:06:10 PM
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on October 19, 2017, 01:04:11 PM
Quote from: valkorum on October 19, 2017, 12:55:44 PM
Wilson deal done

Freo Get: Wilson and 71
GWS Get: 57 and 2018 Rd 2

they get Wilson for that but we paid more for Saad lol
Only if you finish below Freo, which is unlikely
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: kilbluff1985 on October 19, 2017, 01:15:56 PM
may have read it wrong
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: meow meow on October 19, 2017, 01:28:58 PM
25 + 30 for Stringer
25 + 30 for 16
25 for Kennedy
30 for Lang
30 for Ablett
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: RaisyDaisy on October 19, 2017, 01:37:16 PM
Carlton just got Lobbe for Pick 95
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Mat0369 on October 19, 2017, 01:41:52 PM
Good pick up. We need ruck depth and he should be competitive at VFL level. How much longer is he contracted for?
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: RaisyDaisy on October 19, 2017, 01:42:14 PM
Funny seeing all the Collingwood supports getting stuck into their own club for giving up a 2nd rounder for Sam Murray lol
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: RaisyDaisy on October 19, 2017, 01:42:48 PM
Quote from: Mat0369 on October 19, 2017, 01:41:52 PM
Good pick up. We need ruck depth and he should be competitive at VFL level. How much longer is he contracted for?

I could be wrong, but I think he had 2 more years, which you are now paying out Port for
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: valkorum on October 19, 2017, 01:43:20 PM
Stringer to Bombers for 25 & 30.  Dogs likely to on-trade those picks to Carlton for 16
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: meow meow on October 19, 2017, 01:44:58 PM
Quote from: valkorum on October 19, 2017, 01:43:20 PM
Stringer to Bombers for 25 & 30.  Dogs likely to on-trade those picks to Carlton for 16

16 on for Schache possibly.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: nas on October 19, 2017, 01:51:10 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on October 19, 2017, 01:42:48 PM
Quote from: Mat0369 on October 19, 2017, 01:41:52 PM
Good pick up. We need ruck depth and he should be competitive at VFL level. How much longer is he contracted for?

I could be wrong, but I think he had 2 more years, which you are now paying out Port for

Yep, 2019. Supposed to be around $500K.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Mat0369 on October 19, 2017, 01:53:28 PM
Quote from: nas on October 19, 2017, 01:51:10 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on October 19, 2017, 01:42:48 PM
Quote from: Mat0369 on October 19, 2017, 01:41:52 PM
Good pick up. We need ruck depth and he should be competitive at VFL level. How much longer is he contracted for?

I could be wrong, but I think he had 2 more years, which you are now paying out Port for

Yep, 2019. Supposed to be around $500K.

That's not too bad then. I was thinking it was more. I'm surprised  we didn't ask fot a pick to take on the salary. It's not like we're short on cash.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Mat0369 on October 19, 2017, 01:57:43 PM
Dogs receive: pick 16 and 40

Carlton receive: 28, 30, and Dogs 2018 rnd2 pick

I love SOS
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: SydneyRox on October 19, 2017, 02:02:47 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on October 19, 2017, 01:42:14 PM
Funny seeing all the Collingwood supports getting stuck into their own club for giving up a 2nd rounder for Sam Murray lol

Yeah, Swans did pretty well here, for a guy picked up at Rookie 68

Will need all the points we can get next year. I am surprised we haven't tried to bank more.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Mat0369 on October 19, 2017, 02:23:24 PM
Kennedy done for pick 28
Hodge and Ablett deals also done
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Bill Manspeaker on October 19, 2017, 02:25:55 PM
Cats gonna have a beast midfield
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Football Factory on October 19, 2017, 02:27:55 PM
Massive get for the Blues.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: PowerBug on October 19, 2017, 02:29:22 PM
Is it just me or do Carlton turn over their entire list every trade period? Always active
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Mat0369 on October 19, 2017, 02:31:14 PM
Geelong receive: pick 58 and Carlton's 2018 rnd4 pick

Carlton receive: Darcy Lang and Geelong's 2018 rnd4 pick

SOS is good

Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Torpedo10 on October 19, 2017, 02:31:30 PM
Ablett, Dangerfield, Selwood at the bounce.

Time to wave the white flag!
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Mat0369 on October 19, 2017, 02:33:52 PM
Quote from: PowerBug on October 19, 2017, 02:29:22 PM
Is it just me or do Carlton turn over their entire list every trade period? Always active

It feels like it. Difference between the Malthouse cull and the SOS cull is Malthouse got rid of guys with talent that wanted to be at the club. SOS has been turning guys that wanted to leave into assets under 25. We've had massive turnover the last two seasons but our future hasn't been this bright for 5 years.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Mat0369 on October 19, 2017, 02:35:45 PM
https://twitter.com/AFL_PKeane/status/920841523515682816

Compo pick gone in this trade but they get back a 2nd this year
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: RaisyDaisy on October 19, 2017, 02:38:45 PM
Besides Weller and Matera, are there any other deals still not done?

15 minutes remaining
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Mat0369 on October 19, 2017, 02:39:23 PM
Cameron to Brisbane for pick 12. Good trade for the Crows. I don't like the value for Brisbane. Probably better off waiting a year.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: RaisyDaisy on October 19, 2017, 02:40:48 PM
Quote from: Mat0369 on October 19, 2017, 02:39:23 PM
Cameron to Brisbane for pick 12. Good trade for the Crows. I don't like the value for Brisbane. Probably better off waiting a year.

Talk about paying overs

Gets Adelaide back into the 1st round now too
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: meow meow on October 19, 2017, 02:43:01 PM
All depends who they take at 12! Could be an absolute spud.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Gigantor on October 19, 2017, 02:43:55 PM
Geelong use their Motlop compo pick to get Ablett, nothing suss there....
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: TomK on October 19, 2017, 02:44:03 PM
Flowering great work Adelaide!

Charlie tho :'(
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Mat0369 on October 19, 2017, 02:44:50 PM
Adelaide would be hoping Milera can step up this year and give them some silk on the half forward line as well. If he does that us the ideal scenario for them.

Add to the fact Brisbane are loaded with these half forward types I'm not sure I get the trade on their end.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Vinny on October 19, 2017, 02:45:31 PM
SOS is King.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Mat0369 on October 19, 2017, 02:46:18 PM
Quote from: meow meow on October 19, 2017, 02:43:01 PM
All depends who they take at 12! Could be an absolute spud.

This is a good point

Quote from: Vinny on October 19, 2017, 02:45:31 PM
SOS is King.

And most definitely this
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: TomK on October 19, 2017, 02:46:36 PM
Quote from: Mat0369 on October 19, 2017, 02:44:50 PM
Adelaide would be hoping Milera can step up this year and give them some silk on the half forward line as well. If he does that us the ideal scenario for them.

Add to the fact Brisbane are loaded with these half forward types I'm not sure I get the trade on their end.
Either Milera or Gallucci to step up now, big fan of the Gooch!
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: valkorum on October 19, 2017, 02:47:14 PM
Nick Bowan on twitter

"Lachie Weller will get done for pick 2"
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Mat0369 on October 19, 2017, 02:49:53 PM
If GC trade pick two straight up for Weller kick them out of the comp now.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: valkorum on October 19, 2017, 02:52:31 PM
Updated Tweet Nick Bowen

Not sure if its a straight swap, but pick 2 will be involved.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Adamant on October 19, 2017, 02:56:26 PM
It's happening!
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Purple 77 on October 19, 2017, 02:56:51 PM
Wow, bombshell trade!
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Hellopplz on October 19, 2017, 02:57:03 PM
 :o :o :o .

The last day continues to be big as usual :P.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: PowerBug on October 19, 2017, 02:59:28 PM
The Suns bloke does not look happy in processing this deal
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Bill Manspeaker on October 19, 2017, 02:59:53 PM
good on you Freo... tf are GC doing
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Mat0369 on October 19, 2017, 03:00:02 PM
It's time to shut up shop Gold Coast. What a moronic trade.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: valkorum on October 19, 2017, 03:00:23 PM
Dockers just tweeted

Pick No.2 and Matera coming our way


Update


Weller and 41 for 2
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Mat0369 on October 19, 2017, 03:00:48 PM
Schache to Dogs done supposedly as well
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Ricochet on October 19, 2017, 03:01:37 PM
flower me it officially happened
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: RaisyDaisy on October 19, 2017, 03:02:30 PM
So do Freo now have both picks 2 and 5?

2 + Matera lol GC

Yep Schache at the Dogs too
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Hellopplz on October 19, 2017, 03:02:58 PM
Solid deal for Schache on Dogs' end. 25 and 40 for Schache, certainly helps them land a young tall forward for the long term. Stringer out and Schache in isn't too bad considering the circumstances.

Player wants to go there..... Lets pay overs for them :o. #2...
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: RaisyDaisy on October 19, 2017, 03:04:36 PM
The Doggies got Schache for Picks 25 and 40

Schache worth 2 2nd rounders and Weller the GOAT worth Pick 2
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Jukes on October 19, 2017, 03:05:05 PM
Regret only dealing with GC for Saad...should've gone hard at them, Dodoro would've arranged to give them Colyer and a 2018 fourth for pick 2
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Mat0369 on October 19, 2017, 03:08:46 PM
Just merge the Queensland clubs with North already.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: kilbluff1985 on October 19, 2017, 03:13:52 PM
Quote from: Mat0369 on October 19, 2017, 03:08:46 PM
Just merge the Queensland clubs with North already.

North Queensland Roos
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: powersuperkents on October 19, 2017, 03:15:20 PM
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on October 19, 2017, 03:13:52 PM
Quote from: Mat0369 on October 19, 2017, 03:08:46 PM
Just merge the Queensland clubs with North already.

North Queensland Roos
Neither Qld club is based in the North haha
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Mat0369 on October 19, 2017, 03:16:50 PM
Hey Gold Coast, we'll trade you pick 30 and Nick Graham for Tom Lynch. Sound good?
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Big Mac on October 19, 2017, 03:17:08 PM
That's flowered
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: kilbluff1985 on October 19, 2017, 03:17:13 PM
Quote from: powersuperkents on October 19, 2017, 03:15:20 PM
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on October 19, 2017, 03:13:52 PM
Quote from: Mat0369 on October 19, 2017, 03:08:46 PM
Just merge the Queensland clubs with North already.

North Queensland Roos
Neither Qld club is based in the North haha

so what

don't question my logic

Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Purple 77 on October 19, 2017, 03:23:31 PM
Wow.

Pick 2 ey? I reallllly don't feel bad about forking over 2 first rounders for Lever now. You could ask for nearly ANYONE in the AFL with Pick 2... would it really be that unreasonable to offer Pick 2 for Dangerfield or Martin, for example?

Wtf are you doing GC? Surely you back your recruiting to draft a better player with Pick 2? Just get Weller next year after he sooks it out in the WAFL; diminishing his value.

I mean, wtf GC?! If they had supporters, they'd be furious I reckon.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: valkorum on October 19, 2017, 03:27:24 PM
Weeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee


*takes a breath*


Weeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee



START THE CAR!
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: jvalles69 on October 19, 2017, 03:28:09 PM
Can't deals be overturned by the AFL?  Like when the NBA didn't allow CP3 to go to the Lakers?!?  This is ludicrous!
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Purple 77 on October 19, 2017, 03:29:14 PM
Quote from: jvalles69 on October 19, 2017, 03:28:09 PM
Can't deals be overturned by the AFL?  Like when the NBA didn't allow CP3 to go to the Lakers?!?  This is ludicrous!

If there was ever a time to do it, they'd sure as hell be tempted now, surely?
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Purple 77 on October 19, 2017, 03:30:39 PM
... is it too late to grant a priority pick AFL?  :P

Tassy wouldn't f*ck up this bad if we had a team.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Big Mac on October 19, 2017, 03:32:59 PM
Supporters on bigfooty cancelling their membership over it hahaha
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Ringo on October 19, 2017, 03:38:48 PM
Happy with Brisbane trading overall.

Really had no say with Rockliff and compensation given.
Cameron in for pick 12. With the go home factor who is to say we do not lose another player to go home factor.
Hodge a solid gain.

Schache is a loss but with teams now going less tall Cameron an ideal replacement and gives us some more speed.  Schache as a No 2 draft pick been disappointing both mentally and on field so as such could not expect much more in the trade.

Overall rate us as B for trade period as we still have 3 picks in the Top 20 thanks to exchange of picks with Richmond.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Nige on October 19, 2017, 03:50:04 PM
All this GC bashing is a bit weird.

Look at it this way.

They just got a player who wanted to come home. To Gold Coast. When does that ever bloody happen?

This is a weaker draft, Weller's easily as good, if not better than whoever will be taken at Pick 2. And for all we know, that Pick 2 could be a Victorian kid who wants out in a couple of years.

They also got West Coast's first pick next year. Most people are expecting the Eagles to drop so they've probably just got themselves a top 10 pick in a stronger draft (some already calling it the 'super draft'). They're still gonna finish bottom 10 and have another first round pick next year. They already received two second round picks for next year, again... in a stronger draft.

It's really not that bad.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Ricochet on October 19, 2017, 03:50:30 PM
Quote from: Ringo on October 19, 2017, 03:38:48 PM
Happy with Brisbane trading overall.

Really had no say with Rockliff and compensation given.
Cameron in for pick 12. With the go home factor who is to say we do not lose another player to go home factor.
Hodge a solid gain.

Schache is a loss but with teams now going less tall Cameron an ideal replacement and gives us some more speed.  Schache as a No 2 draft pick been disappointing both mentally and on field so as such could not expect much more in the trade.

Overall rate us as B for trade period as we still have 3 picks in the Top 20 thanks to exchange of picks with Richmond.
Pick 12 for Charlie Cameron and 25 + 40 for Schache
It should be the other way around

Happy isn't exactly the words i thought i'd hear from you Ringo
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: SydneyRox on October 19, 2017, 03:52:22 PM
I had Adelaide the clear winner of trade period, but Pick2 for Freo, dont know how they got that deal done.

Gold Coast flowered themselves there!

I would have traded pick 2 to North for Pick 4 and then given that to Freo on principle!!

Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: crowls on October 19, 2017, 03:53:02 PM
Wow,   love to hear GC explain rational for Weller trade.    way way overs.  Schace and Boyd at FF/CHF in VFL for next couple of years.  doesnt seem overly smart.    Doggies must see boyd becoming a ruckman.    Dogs are turning into pussies will soon be purring at their opponents.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Ricochet on October 19, 2017, 03:56:06 PM
Quote from: Nige on October 19, 2017, 03:50:04 PM
All this GC bashing is a bit weird.

Look at it this way.

They just got a player who wanted to come home. To Gold Coast. When does that ever bloody happen?

This is a weaker draft, Weller's easily as good, if not better than whoever will be taken at Pick 2. And for all we know, that Pick 2 could be a Victorian kid who wants out in a couple of years.

They also got West Coast's first pick next year. Most people are expecting the Eagles to drop so they've probably just got themselves a top 10 pick in a stronger draft (some already calling it the 'super draft'). They're still gonna finish bottom 10 and have another first round pick next year. They already received two second round picks for next year, again... in a stronger draft.

It's really not that bad.
Yeh it's not as bad as it's being made out to be. Weller will surprise a lot of people next year, he is class.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: crowls on October 19, 2017, 03:59:42 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on October 19, 2017, 03:56:06 PM
Quote from: Nige on October 19, 2017, 03:50:04 PM
All this GC bashing is a bit weird.

Look at it this way.

They just got a player who wanted to come home. To Gold Coast. When does that ever bloody happen?

This is a weaker draft, Weller's easily as good, if not better than whoever will be taken at Pick 2. And for all we know, that Pick 2 could be a Victorian kid who wants out in a couple of years.

They also got West Coast's first pick next year. Most people are expecting the Eagles to drop so they've probably just got themselves a top 10 pick in a stronger draft (some already calling it the 'super draft'). They're still gonna finish bottom 10 and have another first round pick next year. They already received two second round picks for next year, again... in a stronger draft.

It's really not that bad.
Yeh it's not as bad as it's being made out to be. Weller will surprise a lot of people next year, he is class.
Fair point,  Proven player in Weller with upside over potential for pick 2 that brings homesickness risk as well as development risk.   
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Gigantor on October 19, 2017, 04:03:25 PM
Quote from: Nige on October 19, 2017, 03:50:04 PM
All this GC bashing is a bit weird.

Look at it this way.

They just got a player who wanted to come home. To Gold Coast. When does that ever bloody happen?

This is a weaker draft, Weller's easily as good, if not better than whoever will be taken at Pick 2. And for all we know, that Pick 2 could be a Victorian kid who wants out in a couple of years.

They also got West Coast's first pick next year. Most people are expecting the Eagles to drop so they've probably just got themselves a top 10 pick in a stronger draft (some already calling it the 'super draft'). They're still gonna finish bottom 10 and have another first round pick next year. They already received two second round picks for next year, again... in a stronger draft.

It's really not that bad.

Agreed, Schache was a pick 2 and look how that turned out for Brisbane
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Jukes on October 19, 2017, 04:11:46 PM
Smith, Stringer and Saad for picks 11 and 30

Winner winner chicken dinner
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: valkorum on October 19, 2017, 04:13:59 PM
They paid overs for the Marketing.

1st time a player wants to come back, they had to get the deal done so they can show other players.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Mat0369 on October 19, 2017, 04:21:29 PM
If you're going to avoid drafting potential talent on go home factor you have already lost. You need to actually build a culture and environment where these guys are going to want to stay. If I'm Dew I am already pissed off at the ineptitude of the recruiting department. Lets not pretend that players haven't been moving to Queensland the last few years, in fact you have had Lyons, Wigg, Barlow, Hanley (already in Queensland but swapped clubs), Witts, Rosa and Malceski move in the last few years. That doesn't include the players that nominated 'Queensland' that they decided to not bid on and let walk to Brisbane.

The fact is they might have their captain walk on them now, not because he wants to go home, but because they are no hope of winning games and their off-field is still falling apart. They could have gotten Weller for a hell of a lot less than pick 2 or just waited 12 months and gotten him at a discount, instead they made a poor trade with no rationale behind it. Good luck with that, Freo should be proud, they made out like bandits.

Quote from: Gigantor on October 19, 2017, 04:03:25 PM
Agreed, Schache was a pick 2 and look how that turned out for Brisbane


And they also extended his contract 12 weeks ago, talk about mismanagement.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: meow meow on October 19, 2017, 04:44:08 PM
Schache is a gun.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: RaisyDaisy on October 19, 2017, 04:55:10 PM
RIP Crameri now?
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Koop on October 19, 2017, 05:22:47 PM
Surely we must be looking at Clarke? Trading away both Lobbe & Trengove, as well as only having late picks and quite a few list spots.. Could be a bit more action yet.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: meow meow on October 19, 2017, 05:28:59 PM
Stu is best when he can roam up to the wing and push back hard. He's only 185 so far from key position. He might be done if we doubt if he can get fit though.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: crowls on October 19, 2017, 05:48:44 PM
Quote from: Jukes on October 19, 2017, 04:11:46 PM
Smith, Stringer and Saad for picks 11 and 30

Winner winner chicken dinner
;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
Bombers Rule
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: meow meow on October 19, 2017, 06:00:41 PM
I love how every draft of the following year is so much better than the current one. They'll say it again next year I bet.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Ringo on October 19, 2017, 06:04:20 PM
Quote from: meow meow on October 19, 2017, 06:00:41 PM
I love how every draft of the following year is so much better than the current one. They'll say it again next year I bet.
Last year was shallow. this year shallow and already next years touted as great. Heard that before somewhere and as recently as last year.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Toga on October 19, 2017, 06:09:12 PM
Cannot believe
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Mat0369 on October 19, 2017, 06:13:37 PM
Funny thing is in shallow drafts we've managed to get Weit's, Curnow, Cuningham, McKay, Silvagni, SPS, Fisher, Macreadie and Williamson who have all shown signs of being good players.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Purple 77 on October 19, 2017, 06:15:32 PM
Quote from: Koop on October 19, 2017, 05:22:47 PM
Surely we must be looking at Clarke? Trading away both Lobbe & Trengove, as well as only having late picks and quite a few list spots.. Could be a bit more action yet.

There is always Spencer!
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Purple 77 on October 19, 2017, 06:16:58 PM
The term 'shallow' draft isn't indicative of the quality of top-end talent normally, just the quantity of it, I think.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: iZander on October 19, 2017, 06:22:16 PM
Quote from: Purple 77 on October 19, 2017, 06:16:58 PM
The term 'shallow' draft isn't indicative of the quality of top-end talent normally, just the quantity of it, I think.

Yep, absoluty no way weller is worth pick 2

I think Brisbane and GC are clear losers in this period. Everyones saying that "have to pay overs" because players finally want to come there and it sets a bad image for future players. But it also sends a message to other clubs that if a player does want to go there, theyll both pay way overs because they are a rebuilding inter-state club. Which i think is equally as bad. When a player nominates your club you generally get them cheap. But neither weller or Cameron are worth those picks at full value.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: meow meow on October 19, 2017, 06:33:45 PM
Stringer for Schache
This and next years 2nd rounders for 16 this year
3rd rounder for Crozier
Trengove for free
Kept pick 9, giving us two first rounders to use

If someone offered us that at the start of the period we'd take it. Break even.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Mat0369 on October 19, 2017, 06:40:18 PM
I mentioned this a couple of pages ago that we tend to value draft picks and draft position more than a players talent. Having said that, you generally want to go for established star players knowing that you're giving up such high picks. A guy like Luke Parker is what you're looking at (although he might even be worth a little more) not Weller.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Toga on October 19, 2017, 06:42:39 PM
Quote from: Purple 77 on October 19, 2017, 06:16:58 PM
The term 'shallow' draft isn't indicative of the quality of top-end talent normally, just the quantity of it, I think.

This. People keep talking about this year being a shallow draft but there has got to be at least some elite talent among the top handful of picks. The quantity (e.g. later picks) is what the concern is with this draft. Pick 2 will get a gun.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: meow meow on October 19, 2017, 07:05:28 PM
Generally when a player leaves they get boos from their former club's supporters. Freo will probably cheer wildly when Weller gets a touch when GC visit the west.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: valkorum on October 19, 2017, 07:25:49 PM
Quote from: meow meow on October 19, 2017, 07:05:28 PM
Generally when a player leaves they get boos from their former club's supporters. Freo will probably cheer wildly when Weller gets a touch when GC visit the west.

Crozier and Balic - yes

Not sure about Weller.

Even though we stole the draft with what we got for him, he still put us out to dry last Friday.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: iZander on October 19, 2017, 07:27:59 PM
Quote from: valkorum on October 19, 2017, 07:25:49 PM
Quote from: meow meow on October 19, 2017, 07:05:28 PM
Generally when a player leaves they get boos from their former club's supporters. Freo will probably cheer wildly when Weller gets a touch when GC visit the west.

Crozier and Balic - yes

Not sure about Weller.

Even though we stole the draft with what we got for him, he still put us out to dry last Friday.

haha lets be honest, everyone gets boo's, even players that are forced out by the club get boo'd!
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Koop on October 19, 2017, 07:28:51 PM
Quote from: iZander on October 19, 2017, 07:27:59 PM
Quote from: valkorum on October 19, 2017, 07:25:49 PM
Quote from: meow meow on October 19, 2017, 07:05:28 PM
Generally when a player leaves they get boos from their former club's supporters. Freo will probably cheer wildly when Weller gets a touch when GC visit the west.

Crozier and Balic - yes

Not sure about Weller.

Even though we stole the draft with what we got for him, he still put us out to dry last Friday.

haha lets be honest, everyone gets boo's, even players that are forced out by the club get boo'd!

Anyone from Port who boos Trengove next year is a deadset moron.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: RaisyDaisy on October 19, 2017, 07:35:36 PM
Quote from: Koop on October 19, 2017, 07:28:51 PM
Anyone from Port who boos Trengove Lobbe next year is a deadset moron.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Adamant on October 19, 2017, 07:38:54 PM
Quote from: iZander on October 19, 2017, 07:27:59 PM
Quote from: valkorum on October 19, 2017, 07:25:49 PM
Quote from: meow meow on October 19, 2017, 07:05:28 PM
Generally when a player leaves they get boos from their former club's supporters. Freo will probably cheer wildly when Weller gets a touch when GC visit the west.

Crozier and Balic - yes

Not sure about Weller.

Even though we stole the draft with what we got for him, he still put us out to dry last Friday.

haha lets be honest, everyone gets boo's, even players that are forced out by the club get boo'd!

We cheered Crowley every time he got a touch against us last year (and a standing ovation when he went off the ground injured), and I can guarantee we'll give Barlow the same treatment when he eventually plays us.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: TomK on October 19, 2017, 07:40:43 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on October 19, 2017, 07:35:36 PM
Quote from: Koop on October 19, 2017, 07:28:51 PM
Anyone from Port who boos Trengove Lobbe next year is a deadset moron.
Let's not act like Lobbe will be getting a game though
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: shaker on October 19, 2017, 07:41:37 PM
They booed the shower out of Lids in the finals but it was a pretty big Tiges crowd  ;D
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: meow meow on October 19, 2017, 07:42:58 PM
Lever in Adelaide should be special.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: TomK on October 19, 2017, 07:44:41 PM
Quote from: meow meow on October 19, 2017, 07:42:58 PM
Lever in Adelaide should be special.
Round 1 pls afl
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: shaker on October 19, 2017, 07:46:02 PM
Quote from: TomK on October 19, 2017, 07:44:41 PM
Quote from: meow meow on October 19, 2017, 07:42:58 PM
Lever in Adelaide should be special.
Round 1 pls afl
Lever on Walker  ;D
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: TomK on October 19, 2017, 07:47:07 PM
Quote from: shaker on October 19, 2017, 07:46:02 PM
Quote from: TomK on October 19, 2017, 07:44:41 PM
Quote from: meow meow on October 19, 2017, 07:42:58 PM
Lever in Adelaide should be special.
Round 1 pls afl
Lever on Walker  ;D
Should have a boxing match as half time entertainment
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: shaker on October 19, 2017, 07:48:05 PM
Quote from: TomK on October 19, 2017, 07:47:07 PM
Quote from: shaker on October 19, 2017, 07:46:02 PM
Quote from: TomK on October 19, 2017, 07:44:41 PM
Quote from: meow meow on October 19, 2017, 07:42:58 PM
Lever in Adelaide should be special.
Round 1 pls afl
Lever on Walker  ;D
Should have a boxing match as half time entertainment
Might happen in the 1st 1/4
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: crowls on October 19, 2017, 08:32:56 PM
Quote from: shaker on October 19, 2017, 07:46:02 PM
Quote from: TomK on October 19, 2017, 07:44:41 PM
Quote from: meow meow on October 19, 2017, 07:42:58 PM
Lever in Adelaide should be special.
Round 1 pls afl
Lever on Walker  ;D
make it so, No 1.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: RaisyDaisy on October 19, 2017, 08:40:55 PM
Saw a funny tweet about how St Kilda chased Fyfe, Dusty and Kelly and ended up with Austin lol
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Ringo on October 19, 2017, 08:42:39 PM
Would be great to have Hawks v Lions at the MCG rather than Launceston.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: crowls on October 19, 2017, 08:43:41 PM
Quote from: Ringo on October 19, 2017, 08:42:39 PM
Would be great to have Hawks v Lions at the MCG rather than Launceston.
same size crowd Ringo.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Ringo on October 19, 2017, 08:46:04 PM
Quote from: crowls on October 19, 2017, 08:43:41 PM
Quote from: Ringo on October 19, 2017, 08:42:39 PM
Would be great to have Hawks v Lions at the MCG rather than Launceston.
same size crowd Ringo.
Just wondering though whether the Hawks faithful would come to see Hodge thats all.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: elephants on October 20, 2017, 03:10:08 AM
Quote from: meow meow on October 19, 2017, 11:48:18 AM
Quote from: meow meow on October 19, 2017, 11:27:10 AM
Iggs must overrate how they're going to go next year.

GC give: 21, 26, 37 + future 2nd (19ish)
WC give: 50 + future 1st (8ish?)

I am actually fairly happy with it hey.

Clearly have our eye on a few boys this year (pls Tim Kelly and Liam Ryan), so for a rebuilding side to cop 2 picks in the 20s and one in the 30s for basically a downgrade from 10 -> 19 in a draft that is supposed to be 'super' (should have some depth)... I'm pretty happy. Obviously becomes extra important for us to finish as high as possible next season of course - would hate to see us give away a top 5 pick :-X

For the first time in years I'll be interested in the draft night though!
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: valkorum on October 20, 2017, 11:44:53 AM
Ele - I think the Eagles downgraded for that very reason - going after the local WA boys in the draft.  I can definitely see Kelly and Ryan getting drafted with those second round picks.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Ringo on October 20, 2017, 01:53:44 PM
Shane Mumford has announced his retirement.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: meow meow on October 21, 2017, 02:08:12 PM
TJ Lynch to the Pies in 2019. Lock it in.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: RaisyDaisy on October 21, 2017, 02:36:29 PM
Quote from: meow meow on October 21, 2017, 02:08:12 PM
TJ Lynch to the Hawks in 2019. Lock it in.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Purple 77 on October 21, 2017, 02:47:05 PM
I'll make a bold prediction in our paddock for next year:

Chris Salem to be traded out Watts-style
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: shaker on October 21, 2017, 03:21:46 PM
Quote from: meow meow on October 21, 2017, 02:08:12 PM
TJ Lynch to the Pies in 2019. Lock it in.
Many clubs will be chasing him and he wants a successful team by his comments about GC and staying there , the Pies better lift there game in that case or he will be far from a lock to go there
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: RaisyDaisy on October 22, 2017, 12:33:14 AM
Lindsay Thomas will be delisted, and Port will pick him up (God knows why)

GC considering A Swallow, but 50/50

Brisbane, GC and WCE linked to Miles, and as a WCE fan I'd be stoked if we landed Miles - perfect Priddis replacement
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: nas on October 22, 2017, 02:38:41 AM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on October 22, 2017, 12:33:14 AM
Lindsay Thomas will be delisted, and Port will pick him up (God knows why)



Seesh, as well as having Toumpa$$.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: meow meow on October 22, 2017, 09:34:49 AM
AFL rules state that teams must take 3 players in the draft each year. Rookie upgrades count as taking a player. Dogs have 37 players signed up, and Rourke Smith is getting upgraded. Crameri and Honeychurch can't stay.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Ringo on October 22, 2017, 09:48:16 AM
Still waiting to see what Brisbane will do with Close, Claye Beams and Hammelman all of who are still unsigned,  We have 35 Senior Players and 5 rookies currently on list. Suspect we will pick up 3 players with our first 3 picks and then academy pick Ballandeen if picked later than 19.
So that leaves only one Senior position which will probably be Close seeing we have lost Schache.  Rumours persist however we are still chasing Miles so maybe a couple more de-listings could happen.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: crowls on October 22, 2017, 10:20:40 AM
Quote from: shaker on October 21, 2017, 03:21:46 PM
Quote from: meow meow on October 21, 2017, 02:08:12 PM
TJ Lynch to the Pies in 2019. Lock it in.
Many clubs will be chasing him and he wants a successful team by his comments about GC and staying there , the Pies better lift there game in that case or he will be far from a lock to go there
Would prefer to see GC have a couple of improving seasons and T Lynch stay with them.   
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: shaker on October 22, 2017, 01:52:45 PM
Quote from: crowls on October 22, 2017, 10:20:40 AM
Quote from: shaker on October 21, 2017, 03:21:46 PM
Quote from: meow meow on October 21, 2017, 02:08:12 PM
TJ Lynch to the Pies in 2019. Lock it in.
Many clubs will be chasing him and he wants a successful team by his comments about GC and staying there , the Pies better lift there game in that case or he will be far from a lock to go there
Would prefer to see GC have a couple of improving seasons and T Lynch stay with them.   
Unluckily for GC he has said he wants to see improvement this year and can't really see them improving that much this year
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: elephants on October 22, 2017, 04:32:39 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on October 22, 2017, 12:33:14 AM
Lindsay Thomas will be delisted, and Port will pick him up (God knows why)

GC considering A Swallow, but 50/50

Brisbane, GC and WCE linked to Miles, and as a WCE fan I'd be stoked if we landed Miles - perfect Priddis replacement

Yuck! Redden has that short-term, then get kids like Sheed/Venables/Partington through the guts as they put on more size.

Miles is a limited footballer.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: JBs-Hawks on October 22, 2017, 04:34:49 PM
Quote from: shaker on October 22, 2017, 01:52:45 PM
Quote from: crowls on October 22, 2017, 10:20:40 AM
Quote from: shaker on October 21, 2017, 03:21:46 PM
Quote from: meow meow on October 21, 2017, 02:08:12 PM
TJ Lynch to the Pies in 2019. Lock it in.
Many clubs will be chasing him and he wants a successful team by his comments about GC and staying there , the Pies better lift there game in that case or he will be far from a lock to go there
Would prefer to see GC have a couple of improving seasons and T Lynch stay with them.   
Unluckily for GC he has said he wants to see improvement this year and can't really see them improving that much this year

Your tigers were hopeless and couldn't hit a 5 metre handball 12 months ago, don't write them off too much!
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Nige on October 22, 2017, 04:58:23 PM
Quote from: JBs-Hawks on October 22, 2017, 04:34:49 PM
Quote from: shaker on October 22, 2017, 01:52:45 PM
Quote from: crowls on October 22, 2017, 10:20:40 AM
Quote from: shaker on October 21, 2017, 03:21:46 PM
Quote from: meow meow on October 21, 2017, 02:08:12 PM
TJ Lynch to the Pies in 2019. Lock it in.
Many clubs will be chasing him and he wants a successful team by his comments about GC and staying there , the Pies better lift there game in that case or he will be far from a lock to go there
Would prefer to see GC have a couple of improving seasons and T Lynch stay with them.   
Unluckily for GC he has said he wants to see improvement this year and can't really see them improving that much this year

Your tigers were hopeless and couldn't hit a 5 metre handball 12 months ago, don't write them off too much!
Some of the team still can't.  :P
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: RaisyDaisy on October 26, 2017, 04:28:38 PM
Lennon and Batchelor delisted
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: RaisyDaisy on October 26, 2017, 05:53:36 PM
Billy Hartung, Kade Stewart and Dallas Willsmore delisted
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: SydneyRox on October 26, 2017, 06:11:57 PM
cant believe they booted hartung! surely will get picked up as a free agent

would be happy to see him at the swans
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Rusty00 on October 26, 2017, 06:13:28 PM
Quote from: SydneyRox on October 26, 2017, 06:11:57 PM
cant believe they booted hartung! surely will get picked up as a free agent

would be happy to see him at the swans
Can't say I'm sad to see him go :P
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Ringo on October 26, 2017, 07:06:45 PM
The Brisbane Lions have informed Michael Close, Claye Beams, Cian Hanley, Reuben William and Matthew Hammelmann that they will not be offered a playing contract in 2018.
Close and to a lesser extent Beams surprises me. Others to be expected.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Purple 77 on October 26, 2017, 07:13:43 PM
A few intriguing DFAs around.

A shame though, coz melb has 4 senior spots available, where our last pick is 40-something. I don't see us missing out on Pick 40-something for a DFA.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: GoLions on October 26, 2017, 07:13:58 PM
Lions pls
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: RaisyDaisy on October 26, 2017, 07:16:40 PM
Quote from: Rusty00 on October 26, 2017, 06:13:28 PM
Quote from: SydneyRox on October 26, 2017, 06:11:57 PM
cant believe they booted hartung! surely will get picked up as a free agent

would be happy to see him at the swans
Can't say I'm sad to see him go :P

Hartung is a hack

Just runs around like a headless chook and makes horrible decisions

I'm sure some club will pick him up though
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Ringo on October 26, 2017, 07:19:31 PM
We must have some sound drafting plans either National or PSD Drafts.  We have traded/de-listed 12 but from statements Hanley will be re-rookied.
Hanley, Hammelman and William were rookies. Barrett is also on rookie list but suspect he will be upgraded.
We hold picks 1, 15, 18, 40, 44, 52 and 93.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: shaker on October 26, 2017, 07:32:19 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on October 26, 2017, 07:16:40 PM
Quote from: Rusty00 on October 26, 2017, 06:13:28 PM
Quote from: SydneyRox on October 26, 2017, 06:11:57 PM
cant believe they booted hartung! surely will get picked up as a free agent

would be happy to see him at the swans
Can't say I'm sad to see him go :P

Hartung is a hack

Just runs around like a headless chook and makes horrible decisions

I'm sure some club will pick him up though
Eagles ?
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: RaisyDaisy on October 26, 2017, 08:42:57 PM
Quote from: shaker on October 26, 2017, 07:32:19 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on October 26, 2017, 07:16:40 PM
Quote from: Rusty00 on October 26, 2017, 06:13:28 PM
Quote from: SydneyRox on October 26, 2017, 06:11:57 PM
cant believe they booted hartung! surely will get picked up as a free agent

would be happy to see him at the swans
Can't say I'm sad to see him go :P

Hartung is a hack

Just runs around like a headless chook and makes horrible decisions

I'm sure some club will pick him up though
Eagles ?

We already have our quota of hacks - I'd lose it if we grabbed Hartung
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: JBs-Hawks on October 26, 2017, 09:39:32 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on October 26, 2017, 07:16:40 PM
Quote from: Rusty00 on October 26, 2017, 06:13:28 PM
Quote from: SydneyRox on October 26, 2017, 06:11:57 PM
cant believe they booted hartung! surely will get picked up as a free agent

would be happy to see him at the swans
Can't say I'm sad to see him go :P

Hartung is a hack

Just runs around like a headless chook and makes horrible decisions

I'm sure some club will pick him up though

Bang on, gets the ball runs really fast gets into trouble and panics every time!
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Jukes on October 26, 2017, 09:46:22 PM
I'd take him tbh

Anything's a step up for our midfield
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Peter on October 27, 2017, 06:56:10 AM
Beams is interesting since Dayne went north to play with him
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: iZander on October 27, 2017, 09:03:43 AM
Quote from: Jukes on October 26, 2017, 09:46:22 PM
I'd take him tbh

Anything's a step up for our midfield
Those 2 sentences together dont quite make sense?

The key word is step UP our midfield
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: GoLions on October 27, 2017, 11:17:59 AM
Quote from: Peter on October 27, 2017, 06:56:10 AM
Beams is interesting since Dayne went north to play with him
Not exactly. Went North to be closer to his father who was really sick.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: crowls on October 27, 2017, 01:11:46 PM
Quote from: JBs-Hawks on October 26, 2017, 09:39:32 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on October 26, 2017, 07:16:40 PM
Quote from: Rusty00 on October 26, 2017, 06:13:28 PM
Quote from: SydneyRox on October 26, 2017, 06:11:57 PM
cant believe they booted hartung! surely will get picked up as a free agent

would be happy to see him at the swans
Can't say I'm sad to see him go :P

Hartung is a hack

Just runs around like a headless chook and makes horrible decisions

I'm sure some club will pick him up though

Bang on, gets the ball runs really fast gets into trouble and panics every time!
Would love to see Hartung at the eagles.   Brings a smile to my dial.     Reckon Sam Mitchell could play for eagles for another 10yrs and still be better than hartung will be.    Another "headless chook" or "deer in the headlights" at new Perth Stadium is priceless... ;D ;D
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Ringo on October 27, 2017, 02:24:12 PM
Rumours linking Lions to Hartung but do not think we need him and hopefully do not.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: RaisyDaisy on October 30, 2017, 03:25:05 PM
Ben Sinclair has retired due to concussions, whilst Oxley and Ramsay have been delisted

Oxley will get picked up by Pies in rookie draft

Brett Eddy, Jesse Palmer and Matt White also delisted for Port
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: RaisyDaisy on October 30, 2017, 06:45:17 PM
Ruggles delisted from Geelong

Beech and CEY delisted from Adelaide, but they will pick up CEY and put him on the rookie list
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Peter on October 31, 2017, 07:14:09 AM
Big call on ctowd favourite Beech. Depth player but looked good
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: nas on October 31, 2017, 08:16:01 AM
Suns cull 4 more.

Trent (Cannon) McKenzie, Matt Shaw, Daniel Currie, MacKenzie Willis.

Cannon whispered for a chance @ Power.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: nas on October 31, 2017, 02:44:04 PM
Carlton add another 3 being Blaine Boekhorst, Billie Smedts and Simon White delisted.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: kilbluff1985 on October 31, 2017, 04:42:15 PM
Defender Alex Morgan looks set to join North Melbourne after rejecting a one-year contract from Essendon.
The former #29 pick from the 2015 draft is yet to play an AFL game.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Jukes on October 31, 2017, 05:17:49 PM
Great get for North - Morgan > Martin > Kelly
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: nas on October 31, 2017, 05:41:54 PM
Swans delist Alex Johnson, tho may be rookie listed pick up & Sam Fisher a Cat B rookie
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: nas on October 31, 2017, 05:49:07 PM
GWS cut Sam Reid
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: nas on October 31, 2017, 06:19:19 PM
THE WESTERN BULLDOGS have made another change to their list, delisting defender Roarke Smith.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: SydneyRox on October 31, 2017, 07:04:15 PM
Quote from: nas on October 31, 2017, 05:41:54 PM
Swans delist Alex Johnson, tho may be rookie listed pick up & Sam Fisher a Cat B rookie

AJ is a shame. I would be surprised if we didnt give him a rookie contract. Has been on the list since 2012 whats one more year when he has been injury free for the last few months, which is the most of the last 5 years!

Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Toga on October 31, 2017, 11:43:58 PM
Quote from: Jukes on October 31, 2017, 05:17:49 PM
Great get for North - Morgan > Martin > Kelly

;D ;D ;D

Go North
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: nas on November 01, 2017, 01:30:55 PM
CARLTON has signed former North Melbourne defender Aaron Mullett as a delisted free agent.

http://www.afl.com.au/news/2017-11-01/from-roo-to-blue-axed-defender-joins-carlton
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: nas on November 02, 2017, 01:04:12 PM
GREATER Western Sydney has given Collingwood discard Lachie Keeffe an AFL lifeline, signing the key defender as a delisted free agent.

http://www.afl.com.au/news/2017-11-02/giants-give-dumped-magpie-an-afl-lifeline
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Koop on November 02, 2017, 05:13:18 PM
Port officially pick up Trent McKenzie.

Would not be at all surprised to see us shape him into a winger/half forward. Does not fit down back at all and that boot can be used for some terrific things. Good pickup I reckon!
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: powersuperkents on November 02, 2017, 06:25:12 PM
Quote from: Koop on November 02, 2017, 05:13:18 PM
Port officially pick up Trent McKenzie.

Would not be at all surprised to see us shape him into a winger/half forward. Does not fit down back at all and that boot can be used for some terrific things. Good pickup I reckon!
+1

I think he's a really good pick up
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Toga on November 02, 2017, 07:37:32 PM
Think he's a good pick up but will be interesting to see how he is used. Not sure he'd be quick enough for a wing?
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Jukes on November 02, 2017, 07:41:58 PM
To quote the 2017 AFL Prospectus

QuoteMcKenzie's kicking might be the biggest myth in football as he has recorded a below average kick rating in five of his six seasons. Across his career he has a kick rating of -3.5% from 1032 registered kicks, ranked 160th of the 167 players to have 1000 kicks in this period. Even if he was a good user of the ball he wouldn't find it enough to justify his place in the team, rating poor for both contested and uncontested possessions. His disposal average has declined in each of his last four seasons.

I reckon he's a good pick up as a DFA but probably shouldn't be in Port's 2018 22 unless he can improve (and stay healthy). Has solid best-22 upside for sure.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Jroo on November 02, 2017, 08:07:43 PM
Quote from: Jukes on November 02, 2017, 07:41:58 PM
To quote the 2017 AFL Prospectus

QuoteMcKenzie's kicking might be the biggest myth in football as he has recorded a below average kick rating in five of his six seasons. Across his career he has a kick rating of -3.5% from 1032 registered kicks, ranked 160th of the 167 players to have 1000 kicks in this period. Even if he was a good user of the ball he wouldn't find it enough to justify his place in the team, rating poor for both contested and uncontested possessions. His disposal average has declined in each of his last four seasons.

I reckon he's a good pick up as a DFA but probably shouldn't be in Port's 2018 22 unless he can improve (and stay healthy). Has solid best-22 upside for sure.
This. Plus he's not the Cannon anymore, but I can see why Port picked him up as DFA nothing to lose
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Adamant on November 02, 2017, 08:08:48 PM
McKenzie is one of the laziest footballers I have ever seen, I don't think he'd have the required workrate to play on the wing but I also don't see how he fits into Port's back 6 who are stacked with rebounding defenders already.

HFF is probably his best bet with a license to launch whenever he's in range. He played some good footy when Hinkley was at the Suns so mabye he can get the best out of him.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: nas on November 03, 2017, 11:14:24 AM
NORTH Melbourne and Lindsay Thomas have agreed to part ways, with the veteran forward free to explore other opportunities.

http://www.afl.com.au/news/2017-11-03/veteran-roo-free-to-explore-options-after-delisting
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Football Factory on November 03, 2017, 01:23:56 PM
Quote from: nas on November 03, 2017, 11:14:24 AM
NORTH Melbourne and Lindsay Thomas have agreed to part ways, with the veteran forward free to explore other opportunities.

http://www.afl.com.au/news/2017-11-03/veteran-roo-free-to-explore-options-after-delisting

(https://tse3.mm.bing.net/th?id=OIP.fHWa319GLHHPn9QAjVJ02QEsEO&w=192&h=191&c=7&qlt=90&o=4&pid=1.7)
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Gigantor on November 03, 2017, 01:26:08 PM
Quote from: nas on November 03, 2017, 11:14:24 AM
NORTH Melbourne and Lindsay Thomas have agreed to part ways, with the veteran forward free to explore other opportunities.

http://www.afl.com.au/news/2017-11-03/veteran-roo-free-to-explore-options-after-delisting

Thomas to the Titans, Haynes to the Roos, so he can pursue his dream of becoming an AFL player
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: shaker on November 03, 2017, 02:02:54 PM
Quote from: Gigantor on November 03, 2017, 01:26:08 PM
Quote from: nas on November 03, 2017, 11:14:24 AM
NORTH Melbourne and Lindsay Thomas have agreed to part ways, with the veteran forward free to explore other opportunities.

http://www.afl.com.au/news/2017-11-03/veteran-roo-free-to-explore-options-after-delisting

Thomas to the Titans, Haynes to the Roos, so he can pursue his dream of becoming an AFL player
Why would you wish Haynes on any AFL team has to be the biggest flog in Australian sport
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Football Factory on November 03, 2017, 02:39:12 PM
Quote from: shaker on November 03, 2017, 02:02:54 PM
Quote from: Gigantor on November 03, 2017, 01:26:08 PM
Quote from: nas on November 03, 2017, 11:14:24 AM
NORTH Melbourne and Lindsay Thomas have agreed to part ways, with the veteran forward free to explore other opportunities.

http://www.afl.com.au/news/2017-11-03/veteran-roo-free-to-explore-options-after-delisting

Thomas to the Titans, Haynes to the Roos, so he can pursue his dream of becoming an AFL player
Why would you wish Haynes on any AFL team has to be the biggest flog in Australian sport

No mention of Tomic or Kyrios ? hmmmm
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: shaker on November 03, 2017, 03:38:10 PM
Quote from: Football Factory on November 03, 2017, 02:39:12 PM
Quote from: shaker on November 03, 2017, 02:02:54 PM
Quote from: Gigantor on November 03, 2017, 01:26:08 PM
Quote from: nas on November 03, 2017, 11:14:24 AM
NORTH Melbourne and Lindsay Thomas have agreed to part ways, with the veteran forward free to explore other opportunities.

http://www.afl.com.au/news/2017-11-03/veteran-roo-free-to-explore-options-after-delisting

Thomas to the Titans, Haynes to the Roos, so he can pursue his dream of becoming an AFL player
Why would you wish Haynes on any AFL team has to be the biggest flog in Australian sport

No mention of Tomic or Kyrios ? hmmmm
Ha ha ha I forgot about those two feeling quite foolish now  ;D
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: nas on November 03, 2017, 05:10:10 PM
Port signs Jack Trengove


http://www.portadelaidefc.com.au/news/2017-11-03/trengove-joins-power
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Purple 77 on November 03, 2017, 05:19:01 PM
Ah!

No! He's not supposed... to wear any other Guernsey  :'( but seriously, all the best Jack. You'll forever have my respect and gratitude.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Purple 77 on November 03, 2017, 05:20:13 PM
Dat feeling when Port Adelaide has your former Pick 1, 2 and 4...
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: shaker on November 03, 2017, 05:20:34 PM
Quote from: nas on November 03, 2017, 05:10:10 PM
Port signs Jack Trengove


http://www.portadelaidefc.com.au/news/2017-11-03/trengove-joins-power
Wow hard to fathom that one thought the pace of the game had gone pass him he is very slow
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Purple 77 on November 03, 2017, 05:21:58 PM
Quote from: shaker on November 03, 2017, 05:20:34 PM
Quote from: nas on November 03, 2017, 05:10:10 PM
Port signs Jack Trengove


http://www.portadelaidefc.com.au/news/2017-11-03/trengove-joins-power
Wow hard to fathom that one thought the pace of the game had gone pass him he is very slow

The slowest midfielder I have ever seen, unfortunately the foot injury did it to him.

Quality person and leader, he might do some good for Ports youngins in the SANFL.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Toga on November 03, 2017, 05:32:25 PM
Quote from: Purple 77 on November 03, 2017, 05:20:13 PM
Dat feeling when Port Adelaide has your former Pick 1, 2 and 4...

:o :-X
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: RaisyDaisy on November 03, 2017, 05:54:01 PM
I'm amazed at how many players Port have acquired  :o
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Football Factory on November 03, 2017, 07:30:59 PM
Quote from: Purple 77 on November 03, 2017, 05:20:13 PM
Dat feeling when Port Adelaide has your former Pick 1, 2 and 4...

(http://forum.fanfooty.com.au/Smileys/default/grin.gif)
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: PowerBug on November 03, 2017, 09:01:00 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on November 03, 2017, 05:54:01 PM
I'm amazed at how many players Port have acquired  :o
Destination club 8)

(Ignore all those players that wanted out of the club)
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: kilbluff1985 on November 09, 2017, 03:55:54 PM
hearing Andrew Swallow may retire yet club meeting with him and his manager
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: nas on November 09, 2017, 04:32:33 PM
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on November 09, 2017, 03:55:54 PM
hearing Andrew Swallow may retire yet club meeting with him and his manager

He has officially. http://www.afl.com.au/news/2017-11-09/north-veteran-calls-it-quits-after-failed-move
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: shaker on November 09, 2017, 05:14:21 PM
Can't blame the Suns for not getting him they must look forward with youth
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Holz on November 10, 2017, 02:30:31 PM
Quote from: shaker on November 09, 2017, 05:14:21 PM
Can't blame the Suns for not getting him they must look forward with youth

been doing that for what 6-7 years?
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: shaker on November 10, 2017, 03:25:30 PM
Quote from: Holz on November 10, 2017, 02:30:31 PM
Quote from: shaker on November 09, 2017, 05:14:21 PM
Can't blame the Suns for not getting him they must look forward with youth

been doing that for what 6-7 years?
Yeah they have but Swallow is 30 and basically cooked he is the last person they need
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: quinny88 on November 10, 2017, 05:55:30 PM
You could make a serious team with the retired players.
This team in its prime would be near unbeatable!

FB: Andrew Mackie, Tom Lonergan, Harry Lumumba
HB: Robert Murphy, Josh Gibson, Matthew Boyd
C: Leigh Montagna, Matt Priddis, James Kelly
HF: Steve Johnson, Nick Riewoldt, Jobe Watson
FF: Drew Petrie, Travis Cloke, Angus Monfries
R: Shane Mumford, Sam Mitchell, Scott Thompson

I/C Brent Stanton, Andrew Swallow, Ivan Maric, Sean Dempster
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: fanTCfool on November 10, 2017, 10:11:55 PM
Any team with Lumumba is beatable  8)
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: RaisyDaisy on November 10, 2017, 11:51:02 PM
With all the players Port drafted, they've still managed to find room to give The Toump another year  ;D
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: quinny88 on November 11, 2017, 01:17:08 AM
Quote from: fanTCfool on November 10, 2017, 10:11:55 PM
Any team with Lumumba is beatable  8)

Haha he was a gun at Collingwood around when he was Harry O. I guess Zac Dawson could slip into his role though  ;)
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Peter on November 11, 2017, 07:33:11 AM
Unfortunate concussion ruined him
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: quinny88 on November 12, 2017, 09:57:45 PM
Quote from: Peter on November 11, 2017, 07:33:11 AM
Unfortunate concussion ruined him

And the death of Muhammad Ali  ;D
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Ringo on November 15, 2017, 01:16:37 PM
http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/more-news/ty-vickery-retires-from-afl-after-nineyear-career-with-richmond-and-hawthorn/news-story/569918e30e8b59aa840555b0ffbf517f

Ty Vickery retires,
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: GoLions on November 15, 2017, 01:36:37 PM
This is surely the one that hurts Hawks fans the most
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Rusty00 on November 15, 2017, 02:20:40 PM
Quote from: GoLions on November 15, 2017, 01:36:37 PM
This is surely the one that hurts Hawks fans the most
Assuming we're not paying out the rest of his contract, him retiring is the best result for us.

We didn't give up any draft picks/players to get him, so the only thing we lost was overpaying him for a year. (Plus ridicule from opposition supporters that we actually picked him up :P)
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: GoLions on November 15, 2017, 02:39:48 PM
Quote from: Rusty00 on November 15, 2017, 02:20:40 PM
Quote from: GoLions on November 15, 2017, 01:36:37 PM
This is surely the one that hurts Hawks fans the most
Assuming we're not paying out the rest of his contract, him retiring is the best result for us.

We didn't give up any draft picks/players to get him, so the only thing we lost was overpaying him for a year. (Plus ridicule from opposition supporters that we actually picked him up :P)
I think you might be haha
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Ringo on November 15, 2017, 03:33:42 PM
Big injury news

http://www.carltonfc.com.au/sites/Carlton/news/2017-11-15/docherty-ruptures-acl

Sam Docherty - Ruptured ACL - Likely to miss the 2018 season

Feel sorry for him just when he established himself as one of best defenders.
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: GoLions on November 15, 2017, 03:35:00 PM
Fuarkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkk
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: shaker on November 15, 2017, 03:38:07 PM
Quote from: Ringo on November 15, 2017, 03:33:42 PM
Big injury news

Sam Docherty - Ruptured ACL - Likely to miss the 2018 season

Feel sorry for him just when he established himself as one of best defenders.
Wow bad luck for him now we need to find another gun defender in SC  :'(
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: Jukes on November 15, 2017, 03:48:37 PM
Quote from: shaker on November 15, 2017, 03:38:07 PM
Quote from: Ringo on November 15, 2017, 03:33:42 PM
Big injury news

Sam Docherty - Ruptured ACL - Likely to miss the 2018 season

Feel sorry for him just when he established himself as one of best defenders.
Wow bad luck for him now we need to find another gun defender in SC  :'(

And we gotta find another gun forward to replace Vickery ;-;
Title: Re: Off Season Trade Rumours
Post by: shaker on November 15, 2017, 05:52:53 PM
Quote from: Jukes on November 15, 2017, 03:48:37 PM
Quote from: shaker on November 15, 2017, 03:38:07 PM
Quote from: Ringo on November 15, 2017, 03:33:42 PM
Big injury news

Sam Docherty - Ruptured ACL - Likely to miss the 2018 season

Feel sorry for him just when he established himself as one of best defenders.
Wow bad luck for him now we need to find another gun defender in SC  :'(

And we gotta find another gun forward to replace Vickery ;-;
Haha I'm devastated but like Rusty said it only cost them the year unless the Hawks have said we will help you out a bit to retire because you are finished ? but really why did they get him there was nothing to say he was a good consistent player , Tiges got a nice pick but all the best Ty
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