It's July so it's a new season in terms of Free Agency, Summer League, LeBron to the Lakers, etc.
Let's start afresh!
So yeah Trae Young getting owned by his daddy Jevon Carter again. 0/8 from the field 0/5 from 3. Halfway through the second quarter
COUSINS TO GSW!!!
NBA is officially broken...
Quote from: R.Griffen on July 03, 2018, 11:29:03 AM
COUSINS TO GSW!!!
Might have to delete this thread already.
Well that was a really short NBA season, see you in 2019/2020.
In other news, the Pels picked up Julius Randle after the Lakers let him go, very handy signing having lost Boogie.
If anyone actually agrees with what the Warriors have done/are doing they hate basketball. The only way this can be fixed now is if they just break up the entire NBA and start fresh from a draft. I'm done with NBA until this circus BS ends.
Quote from: jvalles69 on July 03, 2018, 11:45:01 AM
If anyone actually agrees with what the Warriors have done/are doing they hate basketball. The only way this can be fixed now is if they just break up the entire NBA and start fresh from a draft. I'm done with NBA until this circus BS ends.
Don’t even watch nba, but hard to say they have anything wrong when the management of players is this unbelievable that Cousins only signs for 5mil
Next step
Iggoudala + Bell + Livingston + 2019 First rounder for Kawhii Leoanrd
(http://www.newswireja.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/04/B4BE2ADE-AC80-4446-87E1-E07CB951827D.jpeg)
Will GSW even lose a game?
Quote from: valkorum on July 03, 2018, 01:08:18 PM
Will GSW even lose a game?
plenty.
Boogie isnt there for the first half of the year and they will coast.
They should be unstoppable come finals though.
Quote from: Holz on July 03, 2018, 01:21:29 PM
Quote from: valkorum on July 03, 2018, 01:08:18 PM
Will GSW even lose a game?
plenty.
Boogie isnt there for the first half of the year and they will coast.
They should be unstoppable come finals though.
He is due back late December / early January. Wont miss much at all
My guess is 62 wins (coasting like last year) for either the 1 or 2 seed depending on Rockets without Ariza, then sweep the playoffs.
Wtf, how do they keep doing this
Quote from: Holz on July 03, 2018, 12:27:26 PM
Next step
Iggoudala + Bell + Livingston + 2019 First rounder for Kawhii Leoanrd
(http://www.newswireja.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/04/B4BE2ADE-AC80-4446-87E1-E07CB951827D.jpeg)
If they asking Philly for 3 first rounds and 2 players, theres no way they take pick 28 29 30 W/e haha
It's really easy to fix the NBA, it's called a hard cap.
Can't believe how badly the Lakers have botched a year of LeBron's prime. Assuming they don't get Kawhi, they've surrounded LBJ with an even worse team than he had in Cleveland.
Lance Stephenson and Rondo are you kidding me? I love Rondo, but he's a horrible fit with LeBron. Between Rondo and Lonzo, LBJ is going to be playing with a PG who can't shoot at all times. That makes no sense. Look at the guys who have been on the court with LBJ when he's won a title... Chalmers, Mike Miller, Ray, Battier, Bosh, Irving, JR, Love, Jefferson. What do they have in common?
Building around LeBron isn't rocket science but the Lakers have seriously flowered this up and as currently constructed will be lucky to have home-court in the playoffs.
Quote from: Jay on July 04, 2018, 11:58:22 PM
Can't believe how badly the Lakers have botched a year of LeBron's prime. Assuming they don't get Kawhi, they've surrounded LBJ with an even worse team than he had in Cleveland.
Lance Stephenson and Rondo are you kidding me? I love Rondo, but he's a horrible fit with LeBron. Between Rondo and Lonzo, LBJ is going to be playing with a PG who can't shoot at all times. That makes no sense. Look at the guys who have been on the court with LBJ when he's won a title... Chalmers, Mike Miller, Ray, Battier, Bosh, Irving, JR, Love, Jefferson. What do they have in common?
Building around LeBron isn't rocket science but the Lakers have seriously flowered this up and as currently constructed will be lucky to have home-court in the playoffs.
At a quick glance, what you've said is right, but I tend to disagree. LeBron would very much be involved with those moves - he would have been consulted and approved them. It's been said over and over again that LeBron wants to move off-ball - one of Lonzo and Rondo at all times means that happens with ease. Finally, young scrappy defenders (Lakers were a plus defensive team last year) means LeBron will have a team that actually plays D this year - much better than what he had in Cleveland.
I don't think this is better than the Cavs with Kyrie but it's better than last year's Cavs for sure.
Quote from: LaHug on July 05, 2018, 10:17:45 AM
I don't think this is better than the Cavs with Kyrie but it's better than last year's Cavs for sure.
Certainly think this is much better then the cavs last year.
last year he had Laker rejects who the lakers wanted to dump. This year he has Ingram Kuzma Ball who the lakers seem to be hardballing with the spurs on losing for Kawhii.
Is AD a free agent next year? Could Lakers fit both AD and Kawhi in their team? That would be a team that could beat the Warriors.
Quote from: jvalles69 on July 05, 2018, 10:50:37 AM
Is AD a free agent next year? Could Lakers fit both AD and Kawhi in their team? That would be a team that could beat the Warriors.
Nope player option in 20/21 by then Lebron too old.
Quote from: Holz on July 05, 2018, 11:34:36 AM
Quote from: jvalles69 on July 05, 2018, 10:50:37 AM
Is AD a free agent next year? Could Lakers fit both AD and Kawhi in their team? That would be a team that could beat the Warriors.
Nope player option in 20/21 by then Lebron too old.
Ah right.
Quote from: jvalles69 on July 05, 2018, 11:47:49 AM
Quote from: Holz on July 05, 2018, 11:34:36 AM
Quote from: jvalles69 on July 05, 2018, 10:50:37 AM
Is AD a free agent next year? Could Lakers fit both AD and Kawhi in their team? That would be a team that could beat the Warriors.
Nope player option in 20/21 by then Lebron too old.
Ah right.
Lebron to philly i reckon was the correct move. Then chuck Fultz Sairc Roco for Kawhii then fill the rest out with bench fillers, how about adding Boogie (even though they have embiid)
Simmons Lebron Kawhii Boogie Embiid that team i think actually was possible.
Quote from: Holz on July 05, 2018, 03:19:33 PM
Quote from: jvalles69 on July 05, 2018, 11:47:49 AM
Quote from: Holz on July 05, 2018, 11:34:36 AM
Quote from: jvalles69 on July 05, 2018, 10:50:37 AM
Is AD a free agent next year? Could Lakers fit both AD and Kawhi in their team? That would be a team that could beat the Warriors.
Nope player option in 20/21 by then Lebron too old.
Ah right.
Lebron to philly i reckon was the correct move. Then chuck Fultz Sairc Roco for Kawhii then fill the rest out with bench fillers, how about adding Boogie (even though they have embiid)
Simmons Lebron Kawhii Boogie Embiid that team i think actually was possible.
Philly said Fultz was off the table.
Apparently the Ball family (LaVar) leaked information about Lonzo's knee to reduce his trade value so other teams wouldn't want him. Lakers responded by signing Rondo to start for them. Moral of the story, don't flower with Magic.
I wouldn't trust Woj reports on the Lakers. He doesn't have a source. Ramona or I don't believe it on Lakers news.
Ramona is too in love with my boy JoJo to care about the Lakers.
Quote from: Holz on July 05, 2018, 10:28:29 AM
Quote from: LaHug on July 05, 2018, 10:17:45 AM
I don't think this is better than the Cavs with Kyrie but it's better than last year's Cavs for sure.
Certainly think this is much better then the cavs last year.
last year he had Laker rejects who the lakers wanted to dump. This year he has Ingram Kuzma Ball who the lakers seem to be hardballing with the spurs on losing for Kawhii.
Yeh, seems better than he had in Cleveland this season but still feels like he's getting into a similar situation …
Apparently Boogie said no to a Pels offer of $40mil over 2 seasons after he did his Achilles … but it does make sense from his POV, chase a ring for a year, no need to rush back, improve locker room cred and have better offers with an increased cap in 2020 …
Summer league interesting so far with Jaren Jackson Jnr looking good … his 3pt shot looks a bit flat but he's hitting it ...
Another Aussie in the NBA! Broekhoff gets a 2 year deal with Dallas!
Quote from: jvalles69 on July 06, 2018, 10:23:43 AM
Another Aussie in the NBA! Broekhoff gets a 2 year deal with Dallas!
Better than half the Aussies playing NBA rn
Tony Parker just signed for 2 years $10m with Charlotte
Do you want Chicago to match the LaVine offer, Valk?
Rondo saying he likes Lonzo, thinks he has the highest IQ for a 20 year old he's seen, and wants to help him learn. Says he will accept any role that helps the team win.
Lance got a better offer from the Pacers but chose Lakers because LeBron called him.
Funny all the rumours about those two being bad signings dying off within days.
Chicago matches Kings $80m/4 year contract and Lavine stays a bull.
$20m/per year seems a tad much IMO.
Quote from: Keeper27 on July 07, 2018, 05:06:35 PM
Chicago matches Kings $80m/4 year contract and Lavine stays a bull.
$20m/per year seems a tad much IMO.
"Tad" is a nice way to put it.
Quote from: Jay on July 07, 2018, 10:57:37 AM
Do you want Chicago to match the LaVine offer, Valk?
Yes I wanted them to match - we already have Bogdan Bogdanovic and Buddy Hield at the SG and I just cant see how you can rotate all 3 of them in that position.
Why the hell did the Lakers let Lopez walk? First major mistake this offseason for me...
Quote from: LaHug on July 09, 2018, 11:03:05 AM
Why the hell did the Lakers let Lopez walk? First major mistake this offseason for me...
doesnt seem like he fits into the plan Magic/Lebron are making which is tough play-makers that gives Lebron to work on developing his post game.
Lopez certainly isnt what id call tough or a play maker and would get in Lebron's way.
Im ok with letting him walk.
Quote from: Holz on July 09, 2018, 11:16:28 AM
Quote from: LaHug on July 09, 2018, 11:03:05 AM
Why the hell did the Lakers let Lopez walk? First major mistake this offseason for me...
doesnt seem like he fits into the plan Magic/Lebron are making which is tough play-makers that gives Lebron to work on developing his post game.
Lopez certainly isnt what id call tough or a play maker and would get in Lebron's way.
Im ok with letting him walk.
I just think our lack of depth in the C position, and the fact that Lopez can shoot threes (which is huge with Lonzo, Rondo, and LeBron playmaking), means we should've kept him. I guess we'll see what Magic and Pelinka do. As long as it wasn't just so that we can get Melo...
Quote from: LaHug on July 09, 2018, 11:18:58 AM
Quote from: Holz on July 09, 2018, 11:16:28 AM
Quote from: LaHug on July 09, 2018, 11:03:05 AM
Why the hell did the Lakers let Lopez walk? First major mistake this offseason for me...
doesnt seem like he fits into the plan Magic/Lebron are making which is tough play-makers that gives Lebron to work on developing his post game.
Lopez certainly isnt what id call tough or a play maker and would get in Lebron's way.
Im ok with letting him walk.
I just think our lack of depth in the C position, and the fact that Lopez can shoot threes (which is huge with Lonzo, Rondo, and LeBron playmaking), means we should've kept him. I guess we'll see what Magic and Pelinka do. As long as it wasn't just so that we can get Melo...
it beter not be to get Melo.
Kuzma PF
Wagner PF/C
Zubac C
McGee Pf/C
James PF
the way the NBA is going i dont mind that as the bigs.
Rondo Ingram Kuzma Lebron Mcgee
Quote from: LaHug on July 09, 2018, 11:18:58 AM
Quote from: Holz on July 09, 2018, 11:16:28 AM
Quote from: LaHug on July 09, 2018, 11:03:05 AM
Why the hell did the Lakers let Lopez walk? First major mistake this offseason for me...
doesnt seem like he fits into the plan Magic/Lebron are making which is tough play-makers that gives Lebron to work on developing his post game.
Lopez certainly isnt what id call tough or a play maker and would get in Lebron's way.
Im ok with letting him walk.
I just think our lack of depth in the C position, and the fact that Lopez can shoot threes (which is huge with Lonzo, Rondo, and LeBron playmaking), means we should've kept him. I guess we'll see what Magic and Pelinka do. As long as it wasn't just so that we can get Melo...
I'm with you Lahug
Quote from: Holz on July 09, 2018, 11:45:36 AM
Quote from: LaHug on July 09, 2018, 11:18:58 AM
Quote from: Holz on July 09, 2018, 11:16:28 AM
Quote from: LaHug on July 09, 2018, 11:03:05 AM
Why the hell did the Lakers let Lopez walk? First major mistake this offseason for me...
doesnt seem like he fits into the plan Magic/Lebron are making which is tough play-makers that gives Lebron to work on developing his post game.
Lopez certainly isnt what id call tough or a play maker and would get in Lebron's way.
Im ok with letting him walk.
I just think our lack of depth in the C position, and the fact that Lopez can shoot threes (which is huge with Lonzo, Rondo, and LeBron playmaking), means we should've kept him. I guess we'll see what Magic and Pelinka do. As long as it wasn't just so that we can get Melo...
it beter not be to get Melo.
Kuzma PF
Wagner PF/C
Zubac C
McGee Pf/C
James PF
the way the NBA is going i dont mind that as the bigs.
Rondo Ingram Kuzma Lebron Mcgee
Worst big man rotation in the league? Though the Hornets, Nets, Wizards and Clippers would beg to differ
Quote from: plumdog millionaire on July 09, 2018, 12:21:36 PM
Quote from: Holz on July 09, 2018, 11:45:36 AM
Quote from: LaHug on July 09, 2018, 11:18:58 AM
Quote from: Holz on July 09, 2018, 11:16:28 AM
Quote from: LaHug on July 09, 2018, 11:03:05 AM
Why the hell did the Lakers let Lopez walk? First major mistake this offseason for me...
doesnt seem like he fits into the plan Magic/Lebron are making which is tough play-makers that gives Lebron to work on developing his post game.
Lopez certainly isnt what id call tough or a play maker and would get in Lebron's way.
Im ok with letting him walk.
I just think our lack of depth in the C position, and the fact that Lopez can shoot threes (which is huge with Lonzo, Rondo, and LeBron playmaking), means we should've kept him. I guess we'll see what Magic and Pelinka do. As long as it wasn't just so that we can get Melo...
it beter not be to get Melo.
Kuzma PF
Wagner PF/C
Zubac C
McGee Pf/C
James PF
the way the NBA is going i dont mind that as the bigs.
Rondo Ingram Kuzma Lebron Mcgee
Worst big man rotation in the league? Though the Hornets, Nets, Wizards and Clippers would beg to differ
well any Rotation with James in it is pretty elite.
James Kuzma is pretty good, but yes the bench is very bad.
Quote from: Holz on July 09, 2018, 11:45:36 AM
Quote from: LaHug on July 09, 2018, 11:18:58 AM
Quote from: Holz on July 09, 2018, 11:16:28 AM
Quote from: LaHug on July 09, 2018, 11:03:05 AM
Why the hell did the Lakers let Lopez walk? First major mistake this offseason for me...
doesnt seem like he fits into the plan Magic/Lebron are making which is tough play-makers that gives Lebron to work on developing his post game.
Lopez certainly isnt what id call tough or a play maker and would get in Lebron's way.
Im ok with letting him walk.
I just think our lack of depth in the C position, and the fact that Lopez can shoot threes (which is huge with Lonzo, Rondo, and LeBron playmaking), means we should've kept him. I guess we'll see what Magic and Pelinka do. As long as it wasn't just so that we can get Melo...
it beter not be to get Melo.
Kuzma PF
Wagner PF/C
Zubac C
McGee Pf/C
James PF
the way the NBA is going i dont mind that as the bigs.
Rondo Ingram Kuzma Lebron Mcgee
Take James and Kuzma out of that group and those bigs couldn’t win GLeauge games
Quote from: R.Griffen on July 09, 2018, 05:29:56 PM
Take James and Kuzma out of that group and those bigs couldn’t win GLeauge games
sad but true... read somewhere that Rondo will be more mentor to Lonzo and that Rondo will play #1 PG
Leonard for DeRozan expected to be agreed upon by the end of the day
Breaking: Raptors agree to acquire F Kawhi Leonard from Spurs in larger trade package that includes F DeMar DeRozan - Woj http://es.pn/app
And done deal
DeRozan, Poeltl, Protected 2019 1st for Kawhi and Danny Green
Even if Kawhi leaves after 1 year, I feel the Raps have won that, especially since we get to keep OG and Siakam
Raps would've most likely moved into a rebuild after Lowry and DeMar's contracts ran out in two years, so this probably fast tracks that rebuild but we are much, much more likely to do some damage with 1 year of Kawhi, comapared to two more of DeRozan, especially in the Playoffs.
I'll always love DeMar though, I'll miss him as a Raptor :'(
Quote from: TomK on July 18, 2018, 11:53:40 PM
DeRozan, Poeltl, Protected 2019 1st for Kawhi and Danny Green
Even if Kawhi leaves after 1 year, I feel the Raps have won that, especially since we get to keep OG and Siakam
Raps would've most likely moved into a rebuild after Lowry and DeMar's contracts ran out in two years, so this probably fast tracks that rebuild but we are much, much more likely to do some damage with 1 year of Kawhi, comapared to two more of DeRozan, especially in the Playoffs.
I'll always love DeMar though, I'll miss him as a Raptor :'(
Or 0 years as a Raptor...
Quote from: jvalles69 on July 19, 2018, 12:03:56 AM
Quote from: TomK on July 18, 2018, 11:53:40 PM
DeRozan, Poeltl, Protected 2019 1st for Kawhi and Danny Green
Even if Kawhi leaves after 1 year, I feel the Raps have won that, especially since we get to keep OG and Siakam
Raps would've most likely moved into a rebuild after Lowry and DeMar's contracts ran out in two years, so this probably fast tracks that rebuild but we are much, much more likely to do some damage with 1 year of Kawhi, comapared to two more of DeRozan, especially in the Playoffs.
I'll always love DeMar though, I'll miss him as a Raptor :'(
Or 0 years as a Raptor...
Are you meaning we trade him straight away? I didn't even think of that, but that would interesting, especially if we manage to get Ingram if we deal him to the Lakers.
Quote from: TomK on July 19, 2018, 12:05:45 AM
Quote from: jvalles69 on July 19, 2018, 12:03:56 AM
Quote from: TomK on July 18, 2018, 11:53:40 PM
DeRozan, Poeltl, Protected 2019 1st for Kawhi and Danny Green
Even if Kawhi leaves after 1 year, I feel the Raps have won that, especially since we get to keep OG and Siakam
Raps would've most likely moved into a rebuild after Lowry and DeMar's contracts ran out in two years, so this probably fast tracks that rebuild but we are much, much more likely to do some damage with 1 year of Kawhi, comapared to two more of DeRozan, especially in the Playoffs.
I'll always love DeMar though, I'll miss him as a Raptor :'(
Or 0 years as a Raptor...
Are you meaning we trade him straight away? I didn't even think of that, but that would interesting, especially if we manage to get Ingram if we deal him to the Lakers.
Yeah that, or him being a tool for another season and sooking.
I'm so glad we didn't trade for him. DeRozan was better than any player we offered and we likely would have had to trade one of Ben or JoJo in a sideways trade for a potential one year rental.
Kawhi won’t do a lot for the Raptors. He doesn’t want to be there and Derozan was blindsided by the trade. Both players to end up with the lakers
Quote from: Mat0369 on July 19, 2018, 01:17:51 AM
I'm so glad we didn't trade for him. DeRozan was better than any player we offered and we likely would have had to trade one of Ben or JoJo in a sideways trade for a potential one year rental.
I think they wanted Futlz actually and looks like Philly didnt budge on that. He is looking pretty good this offseason and id actually rather have him then derozan in these circumstances if i was Spurs.
Quote from: TomK on July 18, 2018, 11:53:40 PM
DeRozan, Poeltl, Protected 2019 1st for Kawhi and Danny Green
Even if Kawhi leaves after 1 year, I feel the Raps have won that, especially since we get to keep OG and Siakam
Raps would've most likely moved into a rebuild after Lowry and DeMar's contracts ran out in two years, so this probably fast tracks that rebuild but we are much, much more likely to do some damage with 1 year of Kawhi, comapared to two more of DeRozan, especially in the Playoffs.
I'll always love DeMar though, I'll miss him as a Raptor :'(
If you didnt trade for Khawai then you still wouldn't lose OG or Siakam
Quote from: valkorum on July 19, 2018, 04:26:11 PM
Quote from: TomK on July 18, 2018, 11:53:40 PM
DeRozan, Poeltl, Protected 2019 1st for Kawhi and Danny Green
Even if Kawhi leaves after 1 year, I feel the Raps have won that, especially since we get to keep OG and Siakam
Raps would've most likely moved into a rebuild after Lowry and DeMar's contracts ran out in two years, so this probably fast tracks that rebuild but we are much, much more likely to do some damage with 1 year of Kawhi, comapared to two more of DeRozan, especially in the Playoffs.
I'll always love DeMar though, I'll miss him as a Raptor :'(
If you didnt trade for Khawai then you still wouldn't lose OG or Siakam
I know, I was just expecting one of them to be involved in the deal.
Beasley to the Lakers. If Bron has as much power as he did in Cleveland how many of Rondo, Stephenson, Ball and Beasley are gonna be there come playoffs?
Anyone know much about this Richaun Holmes that Phoenix have picked up??
Looking at the 76ers watchers (Mat?) ...
Guessing he backs up Ayton, maybe a bit of PF (can he stretch/3-ball?)??
I'm guessing Chandler is a trade piece or just mentoring as 3rd on the depth chart depending how Ayton goes?
I like him. Prefer him over Amir Johnson but Brown prefers Johnson on D. He had an interesting game during the season where he dominated at the 4 next to Embiid. He has a decent mid range game, can hit the 3 ball and has some ridiculous hops but lacks go to low post moves. He is still better suited to the 5 since his outside shot is inconsistent and teams want a stretch 4 now days. He also gets bullied on D since he is a bean pole. He is a decent shot blocker when rotating so he can create on the defensive end to set up transition play. He also runs rim to rim and is high energy.
If he can add some muscle mass to bang down low and develop a couple of post moves he would be a borderline all-star in the league but I doubt he can fix those deficiencies and at best will be a spot starter/energy guy off the bench. Still a really handy player to and can create some mismatches in certain lineups if you want to go big and play him for a couple minutes at the 4
Quote from: j959 on July 22, 2018, 10:24:49 PM
Anyone know much about this Richaun Holmes that Phoenix have picked up??
Looking at the 76ers watchers (Mat?) ...
Guessing he backs up Ayton, maybe a bit of PF (can he stretch/3-ball?)??
I'm guessing Chandler is a trade piece or just mentoring as 3rd on the depth chart depending how Ayton goes?
He would play a great game of the bench, then not be seen for a few games at all :o
Glad Bolden signed though 8)
Quote from: Hawka on July 23, 2018, 08:37:43 PM
Quote from: j959 on July 22, 2018, 10:24:49 PM
Anyone know much about this Richaun Holmes that Phoenix have picked up??
Looking at the 76ers watchers (Mat?) ...
Guessing he backs up Ayton, maybe a bit of PF (can he stretch/3-ball?)??
I'm guessing Chandler is a trade piece or just mentoring as 3rd on the depth chart depending how Ayton goes?
He would play a great game of the bench, then not be seen for a few games at all :o
Glad Bolden signed though 8)
ah so Bolden bit better and younger and a better fit?
ie Richaun was superfluous to 76ers current needs?
my guess is he's Ayton's back up where Igor (new coach) wants to run 1-in, 4-out generally with Ayton and then Richaun/Tyson just slot in to give Ayton a breather ...
76ers rookie curse strikes again
Lucky me gets to spend about 10 days in NYC from 6/12....with my lover :-\
Schedule comes out in 7 hours
Both Nets and Knicks are crap
Anyone with the time, the knowledge and the energy care to check the schedules around that time and recommend a game?
Here’s hoping one of these lame ducks host a great team during my time there.
First world problem I know, but someone has to have them.
Cheers
Quote from: tor01doc on August 11, 2018, 12:11:32 AM
Lucky me gets to spend about 10 days in NYC from 6/12....with my lover :-\
Schedule comes out in 7 hours
Both Nets and Knicks are crap
Anyone with the time, the knowledge and the energy care to check the schedules around that time and recommend a game?
Here’s hoping one of these lame ducks host a great team during my time there.
First world problem I know, but someone has to have them.
Cheers
What month?
Quote from: tor01doc on August 11, 2018, 12:11:32 AM
Lucky me gets to spend about 10 days in NYC from 6/12....with my lover :-\
Schedule comes out in 7 hours
Both Nets and Knicks are crap
Anyone with the time, the knowledge and the energy care to check the schedules around that time and recommend a game?
Here’s hoping one of these lame ducks host a great team during my time there.
First world problem I know, but someone has to have them.
Cheers
Do a day trip to Philly to check out the Liberty Bell and stuff and more importantly Trust the Process
Quote from: R.Griffen on August 11, 2018, 02:57:38 AM
Quote from: tor01doc on August 11, 2018, 12:11:32 AM
Lucky me gets to spend about 10 days in NYC from 6/12....with my lover :-\
Schedule comes out in 7 hours
Both Nets and Knicks are crap
Anyone with the time, the knowledge and the energy care to check the schedules around that time and recommend a game?
Here’s hoping one of these lame ducks host a great team during my time there.
First world problem I know, but someone has to have them.
Cheers
What month?
December 6th
I can see
Nets v Knicks in Brooklyn
Or Raptors v Net
I think
Busy on the day Hornets come to play.
Is there a NYC Derby or Showdown!
Use Stubhub when you're getting your tickets, fans who resale, I got all mine through there about 6 years ago when I went. Think there is another one too now, but can't for the life of me remember the name...Jalen and Jacoby promote in on their podcast though. BTW, even though it's Knicks and Nets, I'm damn jealous!
TickPick and SeatGeek. TickPick doesn't charge fees
Cheers
MSG for Knicks v Nets
VISA pre sale for Boomers vs USA were a flowering joke. Haven't seen anyone get through a buy tickets without payment failing messages appearing. Had level 1 tickets in my cart only for it to timeout because they're payment method wasn't working, on searching for more tickets they offered me nosebleeds at $100 a pop! flowering cows. Looks like I'll be heading to Beijing instead...cows.
Quote from: jvalles69 on August 22, 2018, 12:36:33 PM
VISA pre sale for Boomers vs USA were a flowering joke. Haven't seen anyone get through a buy tickets without payment failing messages appearing. Had level 1 tickets in my cart only for it to timeout because they're payment method wasn't working, on searching for more tickets they offered me nosebleeds at $100 a pop! flowering cows. Looks like I'll be heading to Beijing instead...cows.
Took me half an hour but I got some. They kept only offering me $370 tickets (I had one page going for best available and one for under $200). Ended up adding trying another page with the $220 tickets as well and eventually got two seats in section B8 (ground level but behind the basket so not the best viewing...). I reckon the scalpers were out in force though.
I was in class trying to get 'em, had floor seats in the corner and the page timed out after about 20 seconds. Ended up in the rafters...
Telstra pre-sale tomorrow, fingers crossed they have some good seats allocated.
Man, I miss Manu already :(
Quote from: Jay on August 29, 2018, 08:50:16 AM
Man, I miss Manu already :(
2009 best play from Manu vs the Kings
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sI8q7SpDTww
Should we get a predictions thread going? East 8, West 8, Champs, awards etc.
Quote from: jvalles69 on September 20, 2018, 12:39:16 PM
Should we get a predictions thread going? East 8, West 8, Champs, awards etc.
You post first and we'll all steal your format ;)
Quote from: LaHug on September 20, 2018, 01:30:51 PM
Quote from: jvalles69 on September 20, 2018, 12:39:16 PM
Should we get a predictions thread going? East 8, West 8, Champs, awards etc.
You post first and we'll all steal your format ;)
Haha, I was going to, but didn't want to leave anything out! I'll do it now...
East
1. Boston
2. Toronto
3. Philadelphia
4. Milwaukee
5. Washington
6. Indiana
7. Detroit
8. Miami
West
1. Golden State
2. Houston
3. OKC
4. Denver
5. Portland
6. Utah
7. LA Lakers
8. San Antonio
Champion: Golden State
Runner up: Boston
MVP: Kawhi Leonard
Finals MVP: Steph Curry
ROY: Luka Doncic
DPOY: Kawhi Leonard
COY: Brad Stevens
MIP: Dejounte Murray
6th Man: Jaylen Brown
Scoring Title: James Harden
East
1. Toronto
2. Boston
3. Philadelphia
4. Indiana
5. Milwaukee
6. Detroit
7. Charlotte
8. Washington
West
1. Golden State
2. Houston
3. LA Lakers
4. Denver
5. OKC
6. Utah
7. Portland
8. New Orleans
Champion: Golden State
Runner up: Toronto
MVP: LeBron James
Finals MVP: Kevin Durant
ROY: Deandre Ayton
DPOY: Andre Roberson
COY: Steve Kerr
MIP: Zach Lavine
6th Man: Lance Stephenson
Scoring Title: James Harden
East
1. Boston
2. Toronto
3. Philadelphia
4. Indiana
5. Milwaukee
6. Washington
7. Detroit
8. Miami
West
1. Golden State
2. Houston
3. LA Lakers
4. Utah
5. Denver
6. New Orleans
7. OKC
8. Portland
Champion: Golden State
Runner Up: Boston
MVP: Giannis Antetokounmpo
Finals MVP: Kevin Durant
ROY: Ben Simmons
DPOY: Kawhi Leonard
COY: Quin Snyder
MIP: Julius Randle
6th Man: Terry Rozier
Scoring Title: James Harden
East
1. Boston
2. Toronto
3. Philly
4. Milwaukee
5. Indiana
6. Washington
7. Miami
8. Detroit
West
1. GSW
2. Houston
3. Utah
4. OKC
5. Denver
6. Minnesota
7. Lakers
8. Pelicans
Champion: Golden State
Runners Up: Boston
MVP: Giannis
Finals MVP: Steph Curry
ROY: Luka Doncic
DPOY: Rudy Gobert
COY: President Stevens
MIP: Jamal Murray
6th man: Lou Williams
Scoring title: Anthony Davis
Also,
Kyrie Irving
Jaylen Brown
Gordon Hayward
Jayson Tatum
Al Horford
Bring on NBA :)
East
1. Toronto
2. Boston
3. Milwaukee
4. Philly
5. Indiana
6. Washington
7. Miami
8. Detroit
West
1. GSW
2. Houston
3. OKC
4. Lakers
5. Denver
6. Utah
7. Spurs
8. New Orleans
Champion: Golden State
Runners Up: Toronto
MVP: Giannis Antetokounmpo
Finals MVP: Steph Curry
ROY: Luka Doncic
DPOY: Kawhi Leonard
COY: Steve Kerr
MIP: D'Angelo Russell
6th man: Tyreke Evans
Scoring title: James Harden
East
1. Toronto
2. Boston
3. Washington
4. Philly
5. Bucks
6. Indiana
7. Miami
8. Detroit
West
1. GSW
2. Houston
3. Lakers
4. OKC
5. Spurs
6. Denver
7. TWolves
8. Memphis
Champion: Golden State
Runners Up: Toronto
MVP: Steh Curry
Finals MVP: Klay Thompson
ROY: Wendell Carter
DPOY: Kawhi Leonard
COY: Steve Kerr
MIP: Malcom Brogdon
6th man: Tyreke Evans
Scoring title: James Harden
East
1. Boston
2. Toronto
3. Philly
4. Indiana
5. Milwaukee
6. Detroit
7. Washington
8. Miami
West
1. GSW
2. Houston
3. OKC
4. Spurs
5. Denver
6. Utah
7. Lakers
8. New Orleans
Champion: Golden State
Runners Up: Toronto
MVP: Giannis Antetokounmpo
Finals MVP: Steph Curry
ROY: Luka Doncic
DPOY: Kawhi Leonard
COY: Steve Kerr
MIP: D'Angelo Russell
6th man: Lou Williams
Scoring title: Anthony Davis
Bring on the NBA #SpursNation
The Kawhi laugh. ;D Also sounds like he's never laughed before! ;D ;D
Quote from: fanTCfool on September 20, 2018, 09:30:02 PM
East
1. Boston
2. Toronto
3. Philadelphia
4. Indiana
5. Milwaukee
6. Washington
7. Detroit
8. Miami
West
1. Golden State
2. Houston
3. LA Lakers
4. Utah
5. Denver
6. New Orleans
7. OKC
8. Portland
Champion: Golden State
Runner Up: Boston
MVP: Giannis Antetokounmpo
Finals MVP: Kevin Durant
ROY: Ben Simmons
DPOY: Kawhi Leonard
COY: Quin Snyder
MIP: Julius Randle
6th Man: Terry Rozier
Scoring Title: James Harden
;D
East
1. Boston
2. Toronto
3. Philly
4. Milwaukee
5. Indiana
6. Washington
7. Miami
8. Detroit
West
1. GSW
2. Houston
3. OKC
4. Spurs
5. Denver
6. Utah
7. Lakers
8. New Orleans
Champion: Golden State
Runners Up: Boston
MVP: Anthony Davis
Finals MVP:
ROY: Luka Doncic
DPOY: Rudy Gobert
COY: Brad Stevens
MIP: Markele Futlz
6th man: Lou Williams
Scoring title: Anthony Davis
All this Jimmy Butler stuff is flowered. Thibs killed the Twolves
NBL x NBA starts tomorrow with Melbourne United vs Philly 76ers. These games should be great for the NBL and look to see imports try to impress. Can't wait to see Cotton take it to his old team Utah. Hopefully can find a stream to watch while over here in Melbourne.
Anyone watching the China game at the moment?
If this Butler report is true he might as well find a different sport to play. What success has Butler even had?
Going to the Lakers - GSW game tonight!
Quote from: JBs-Hawks on October 11, 2018, 10:20:18 AM
Going to the Lakers - GSW game tonight!
Wow. That's awesome. Please get LeBron to sign something for me.
Well, that was a good preview of the ECF this season.
Kyle and Kawhi :-*
Kings Baby!
The 10/11 MVP is back baby! 8)
Quote from: jvalles69 on November 01, 2018, 02:32:01 PM
The 10/11 MVP is back baby! 8)
I wouldnt call a 1 point win against the Mavs as back but good to see him point up an efficient 11/19
Quote from: Holz on November 01, 2018, 05:05:20 PM
Quote from: jvalles69 on November 01, 2018, 02:32:01 PM
The 10/11 MVP is back baby! 8)
I wouldnt call a 1 point win against the Mavs as back but good to see him point up an efficient 11/19
Huh?
D Rose baby, 50pt game.
Quote from: jvalles69 on November 01, 2018, 06:13:23 PM
Quote from: Holz on November 01, 2018, 05:05:20 PM
Quote from: jvalles69 on November 01, 2018, 02:32:01 PM
The 10/11 MVP is back baby! 8)
I wouldnt call a 1 point win against the Mavs as back but good to see him point up an efficient 11/19
Huh?
D Rose baby, 50pt game.
sorry was talking about the real 2011 MVP :P
jokes aside though, great to see D-Rose play well.
Quote from: Holz on November 01, 2018, 07:08:51 PM
Quote from: jvalles69 on November 01, 2018, 06:13:23 PM
Quote from: Holz on November 01, 2018, 05:05:20 PM
Quote from: jvalles69 on November 01, 2018, 02:32:01 PM
The 10/11 MVP is back baby! 8)
I wouldnt call a 1 point win against the Mavs as back but good to see him point up an efficient 11/19
Huh?
D Rose baby, 50pt game.
sorry was talking about the real 2011 MVP :P
jokes aside though, great to see D-Rose play well.
Aha, went over my head cos I was stoked to see Rose do well!
Justin Patton the best part of the Butler trade, underrated still very raw though
Scoring title lads? Surely Harden is in the box seat. Paying $6 on Unibet.
Caris LeVert :'(
Quote from: jvalles69 on November 13, 2018, 01:17:03 PM
Scoring title lads? Surely Harden is in the box seat. Paying $6 on Unibet.
Zac LaVine the smokey
Quote from: jvalles69 on November 13, 2018, 01:17:03 PM
Scoring title lads? Surely Harden is in the box seat. Paying $6 on Unibet.
How is he in the box seat? NBA app has him 29th on points atm
And the rockets as the 2nd worst offence so far
Quote from: Cookie311993 on November 13, 2018, 09:48:23 PM
Quote from: jvalles69 on November 13, 2018, 01:17:03 PM
Scoring title lads? Surely Harden is in the box seat. Paying $6 on Unibet.
How is he in the box seat? NBA app has him 29th on points atm
And the rockets as the 2nd worst offence so far
Bc he’s averaging 28 and guys leading are more than likely gonna miss games.
I think Embiid is a huge chance. KD LBJ too.
Quote from: Cookie311993 on November 13, 2018, 09:48:23 PM
Quote from: jvalles69 on November 13, 2018, 01:17:03 PM
Scoring title lads? Surely Harden is in the box seat. Paying $6 on Unibet.
How is he in the box seat? NBA app has him 29th on points atm
And the rockets as the 2nd worst offence so far
Uh what?!? He's 4th in ppg in a terrible Rockets start to the season, less than 2 points off the current leader. Curry and Durant will eventually cancel each other out, Embiid looking good, but Butler in now effects him, and Kemba won't keep it up.
Quote from: jvalles69 on November 14, 2018, 11:26:23 AM
Quote from: Cookie311993 on November 13, 2018, 09:48:23 PM
Quote from: jvalles69 on November 13, 2018, 01:17:03 PM
Scoring title lads? Surely Harden is in the box seat. Paying $6 on Unibet.
How is he in the box seat? NBA app has him 29th on points atm
And the rockets as the 2nd worst offence so far
Uh what?!? He's 4th in ppg in a terrible Rockets start to the season, less than 2 points off the current leader. Curry and Durant will eventually cancel each other out, Embiid looking good, but Butler in now effects him, and Kemba won't keep it up.
AD id say is a threat
Quote from: Holz on November 14, 2018, 02:16:07 PM
Quote from: jvalles69 on November 14, 2018, 11:26:23 AM
Quote from: Cookie311993 on November 13, 2018, 09:48:23 PM
Quote from: jvalles69 on November 13, 2018, 01:17:03 PM
Scoring title lads? Surely Harden is in the box seat. Paying $6 on Unibet.
How is he in the box seat? NBA app has him 29th on points atm
And the rockets as the 2nd worst offence so far
Uh what?!? He's 4th in ppg in a terrible Rockets start to the season, less than 2 points off the current leader. Curry and Durant will eventually cancel each other out, Embiid looking good, but Butler in now effects him, and Kemba won't keep it up.
AD id say is a threat
Agree, if he can stay healthy. Giannis another one and can't leave Westbrook out. Harden doing his best today to increase his odds for me.
Looked at the assists odds too, Lowry leading the league and paying $1.50, I don't believe he can keep this up, CP3 @ $6, Harden @ $7 and Westbrook @ $9.
Anyone know if LaVine is over his runny nose ;D ???
Lebron making a play for scoring title and MVP.
im already in love with Butler :-* :-* :-* :-*
Fultz is done, I don't want to see him again. What a fricken bust
What are people's thoughts on what Harden is doing this season? Absolutely insane!
Quote from: LaHug on January 02, 2019, 03:36:07 PM
What are people's thoughts on what Harden is doing this season? Absolutely insane!
Guy is a monster and could get back to back MVP's.
Honestly when Cousins signed to GSW I was all but done with the NBA, but this season has been the best for awhile for me.
- Awesome rookies in Doncic, Ayton and Trae
- Wide open MVP race
- Rose back
- PG getting back to MVP level
- Plenty vying for MIP
- Bron in yellow and purple
- Kawhi in the North
- Giannis taking another step to eliteness
- AD not injured (still plenty of scares)
Really has been one of the best seasons in ages (obviously helps that I'm a Lakers fan and we got LeBron).
Quote from: jvalles69 on January 02, 2019, 03:58:57 PM
Quote from: LaHug on January 02, 2019, 03:36:07 PM
What are people's thoughts on what Harden is doing this season? Absolutely insane!
Guy is a monster and could get back to back MVP's.
Honestly when Cousins signed to GSW I was all but done with the NBA, but this season has been the best for awhile for me.
- Awesome rookies in Doncic, Ayton and Trae
- Wide open MVP race
- Rose back
- PG getting back to MVP level
- Plenty vying for MIP
- Bron in yellow and purple
- Kawhi in the North
- Giannis taking another step to eliteness
- AD not injured (still plenty of scares)
- Kings are above .500
Quote from: valkorum on January 16, 2019, 01:50:15 AM
Quote from: jvalles69 on January 02, 2019, 03:58:57 PM
Quote from: LaHug on January 02, 2019, 03:36:07 PM
What are people's thoughts on what Harden is doing this season? Absolutely insane!
Guy is a monster and could get back to back MVP's.
Honestly when Cousins signed to GSW I was all but done with the NBA, but this season has been the best for awhile for me.
- Awesome rookies in Doncic, Ayton and Trae
- Wide open MVP race
- Rose back
- PG getting back to MVP level
- Plenty vying for MIP
- Bron in yellow and purple
- Kawhi in the North
- Giannis taking another step to eliteness
- AD not injured (still plenty of scares)
- Kings are above .500
Suns still suck ... :'(
(https://content.boards.philadelphiaeagles.com/monthly_2019_01/766945923_Screenshot_20190128-232853_SamsungExperienceHome.jpg.3032a58028dfa3a401aa5ad2e5c8b136.jpg)
Congrats Lakers on getting Bron to successfully tamper during the season. I'm assuming that's the preferred destination
Seriously though, I'm assuming the Lakers are his preferred destination. I'm not sure what any team in the league can really give up for AD that's assumed fair value. They're going to likely have to give up Ingram/Kuzma/Hart in the deal.
I feel bad for Jrue in all this
I can see NO holding out, but i dont rate them as an organisation so no clue.
Kuzma, Ball, Zubac and a pick seems to make sense for NO. They get a PG, PF, C and a draft pick.
Not ideal but would make them a semi decent team.
Holiday, Randle, Kuzma, Ball, Zubac, Mirotic
then add in NO lottery pick next year + a late Lakers first rounder.
Quote from: Holz on January 29, 2019, 09:37:31 AM
I can see NO holding out, but i dont rate them as an organisation so no clue.
Kuzma, Ball, Zubac and a pick seems to make sense for NO. They get a PG, PF, C and a draft pick.
Not ideal but would make them a semi decent team.
Holiday, Randle, Kuzma, Ball, Zubac, Mirotic
then add in NO lottery pick next year + a late Lakers first rounder.
nick wright @getnickwright
Here's the trade Magic Johnson should offer, and I assume he will. Lonzo, Ingram, Kuzma, Zubac & Lance (for cap purposes) + 2 unprotected 1sts for Anthony Davis
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DyAe_aXXQAA4BFY.jpg)
Pretty sure I called AD being traded around this time a year or so ago, can't find the proof. I just remember everyone basically calling me crazy. :P
Quote from: jvalles69 on January 29, 2019, 11:25:48 AM
Pretty sure I called AD being traded around this time a year or so ago, can't find the proof. I just remember being basically calling me crazy. :P
same, my mates were calling me crazy.
but he bought a place in LA around that time too
Would not be surprised if Lakers ended up nabbing AD and Kawhi, holy moly.
Quote from: jvalles69 on January 29, 2019, 01:40:17 PM
Would not be surprised if Lakers ended up nabbing AD and Kawhi, holy moly.
Kahwi will go to the clippers. for sure
Quote from: Keeper27 on January 29, 2019, 02:54:41 PM
Quote from: jvalles69 on January 29, 2019, 01:40:17 PM
Would not be surprised if Lakers ended up nabbing AD and Kawhi, holy moly.
Kahwi will go to the clippers. for sure
Yeah that's what I'm thinking, but you never know.
What else is interesting is Hart and Kuzma being questionable for tomorrow... ???
Quote from: jvalles69 on January 29, 2019, 03:00:05 PM
Quote from: Keeper27 on January 29, 2019, 02:54:41 PM
Quote from: jvalles69 on January 29, 2019, 01:40:17 PM
Would not be surprised if Lakers ended up nabbing AD and Kawhi, holy moly.
Kahwi will go to the clippers. for sure
Yeah that's what I'm thinking, but you never know.
oi
Leonard has said he doesn't want to play with LeBron. Same as KD. I think they're probably a good bet to play together at the Clippers
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on January 29, 2019, 10:23:25 AM
Quote from: Holz on January 29, 2019, 09:37:31 AM
I can see NO holding out, but i dont rate them as an organisation so no clue.
Kuzma, Ball, Zubac and a pick seems to make sense for NO. They get a PG, PF, C and a draft pick.
Not ideal but would make them a semi decent team.
Holiday, Randle, Kuzma, Ball, Zubac, Mirotic
then add in NO lottery pick next year + a late Lakers first rounder.
nick wright @getnickwright
Here's the trade Magic Johnson should offer, and I assume he will. Lonzo, Ingram, Kuzma, Zubac & Lance (for cap purposes) + 2 unprotected 1sts for Anthony Davis
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DyAe_aXXQAA4BFY.jpg)
Issue with this is the squad is then
Rondo Hart Lebron ???? AD
so assuming lakers cant lock in a superstar free agent, AD will be in a worse situation then he was in NO when lebron retires. I guess the only difference is now he is in LA and perhaps he attracts free agents.
I dont see the lakers offering that much regardless if its for AD. Thats close to what he is worth and in these circumstances you dont get what your superstar is worth.
I can see them giving up 3 of those 4 players but not all of them. Keeping Kuzma would be ideal but i think Lakers need to keep ingram at least that way you can at least line up with
Rondo Hart Ingram Lebron AD.
KCP Mcgee Chandler Beasely off the bench.
If Lakers lose all 3 of Ball, Ingram and Kuzma they would be better off trading LeBron haha. Not worth losing that much talent
HUGE TRADE
Mavs get Prozingis, Hardaway Jnr, Lee & NYK get Jordan, Matthews, Smith Jnr and a 1st round pick
Even with Porzingis out the Mavs won this.
Hardaway is a decent player and when Porzingis is fit, him and Luka are gonna be amazing to watch.
Quote from: Keeper27 on February 01, 2019, 08:44:33 AM
HUGE TRADE
Mavs get Prozingis, Hardaway Jnr, Lee & NYK get Jordan, Matthews, Smith Jnr and a 1st round pick
Even with Porzingis out the Mavs won this.
Hardaway is a decent player and when Porzingis is fit, him and Luka are gonna be amazing to watch.
Shams reporting that Porzingis is going to accept a qualifying offer so he can become an unrestricted free agent. This is madness!
Quote from: LaHug on February 01, 2019, 09:18:31 AM
Quote from: Keeper27 on February 01, 2019, 08:44:33 AM
HUGE TRADE
Mavs get Prozingis, Hardaway Jnr, Lee & NYK get Jordan, Matthews, Smith Jnr and a 1st round pick
Even with Porzingis out the Mavs won this.
Hardaway is a decent player and when Porzingis is fit, him and Luka are gonna be amazing to watch.
Shams reporting that Porzingis is going to accept a qualifying offer so he can become an unrestricted free agent. This is madness!
Knicks obviously get torched in the deal, all it is is a punt that they can attract 2 superstars next year such as Kyrie and KD.
If they get those 2 guys then its obviously a huge win as it like trading Porzingis for those 2 guys.
I would have thought they could have got expiring contracts + better assets but i guess the ACL is a concerning factor. Dennis Smith Jnr might be an ok player i just didnt like him with luka.
Huge wins for the Mavs, getting rid of Dennis Smith Jnr is almost a positive thing and Porinzigis learning under Dirk will be great to see. If he can get healthy you have 2 lethal 3 point shooters, playing great euro ball.
Mavericks certainly one of m favorite teams now.
Cuban never forgets...got the final laugh against DJ.
Boban, Harris and Mike Scott for Shamet, Chandler, Muscala, the Heat first in 2021, Sixers first in 2020 and whatever seconds Detroit owe Philly. I'm conflicted. I'm sad we lost Shamet but so happy we have Boban
Philly wise to keep Bobi & Tobi together, could be the difference between Harris staying or leaving at EOS.
Quote from: Mat0369 on February 07, 2019, 01:10:53 AM
Boban, Harris and Mike Scott for Shamet, Chandler, Muscala, the Heat first in 2021, Sixers first in 2020 and whatever seconds Detroit owe Philly. I'm conflicted. I'm sad we lost Shamet but so happy we have Boban
I love the move, Shamet was good but the time is now.
If we lose Butler then Simmons Harris Embiid is more then enough to compete for years to come. With Simmons inability to shoot paring him with one of the best 3 point shooters in the NBA is a great combo.
I also think he is a much better fit then butler perosonality and game wise as he is the perfect 3rd option (or in this case 4th).
If they can keep the 4 then as they grow i see them as the team to challenge the warriors.
Thats a great trade for 76ers, reduces their depth, but puts them as instant contenders and favourites for Eastern Conference title. That starting 5 is beyond delicious, Simmons, Redick, Butler, Tobias and Embiid. Holy hell, I hope they can gel and realise the damage they can do if they play unselfish basketball.
Barnes trade was brutal, traded while he's on court. :o
Apparently Barnes was warned he was involved in trade talks, though you'd think they could wait on pulling the trigger at least until he walked off the court... brutal.
Definitely not good timing to announce the trade while he is on the bench but he does make the Kings stronger along with Alec Burks
Fox / Yogi / Mason
Hield / Bogdanovic
Barnes / Burks
Bjelica / Giles
WCS / Bagley / Koufos
The top 4 in the east are going to give the Warriors a run for their money if they don't beat each other up first.
Raps added Gasol, Bucks added Mirotic, 76ers added Tobias and Ennis and Boston are just good.
Quote from: Holz on February 07, 2019, 11:03:40 AM
I love the move, Shamet was good but the time is now.
If we lose Butler then Simmons Harris Embiid is more then enough to compete for years to come. With Simmons inability to shoot paring him with one of the best 3 point shooters in the NBA is a great combo.
I also think he is a much better fit then butler perosonality and game wise as he is the perfect 3rd option (or in this case 4th).
If they can keep the 4 then as they grow i see them as the team to challenge the warriors.
What's this we? Last I checked the Cavs were 11-44 with the third worst record in the league...
Quote from: jvalles69 on February 08, 2019, 11:54:53 AM
The top 4 in the east are going to give the Warriors a run for their money if they don't beat each other up first.
Raps added Gasol, Bucks added Mirotic, 76ers added Tobias and Ennis and Boston are just good.
We just beat the Nuggets comfortably without looking spectacular. They didn't have Harris, Thomas, Porter Jr. and Millsap, but it was convincing for a bunch of guys that mostly hadn't played together before and Embiid not being able to keep anything down for 48 hours with a stomach bug.
Watching them tonight, the starting 5 is legit scary, Harris just gives them something they didn't have. I'd love to see them play the Raptors again in Toronto, but they don't play again until playoffs unfortunately.
OKC Rockets has been a good game so far. Rockets by 22 at 1/2 time and 26 early in the third, but now there's 2 mins left in the 3rd and the margin is only 6
EDIT: And it's tied at 3/4 time
Quote from: Mat0369 on February 09, 2019, 07:09:02 PM
Quote from: Holz on February 07, 2019, 11:03:40 AM
I love the move, Shamet was good but the time is now.
If we lose Butler then Simmons Harris Embiid is more then enough to compete for years to come. With Simmons inability to shoot paring him with one of the best 3 point shooters in the NBA is a great combo.
I also think he is a much better fit then butler perosonality and game wise as he is the perfect 3rd option (or in this case 4th).
If they can keep the 4 then as they grow i see them as the team to challenge the warriors.
What's this we? Last I checked the Cavs were 11-44 with the third worst record in the league...
Quote from: jvalles69 on February 08, 2019, 11:54:53 AM
The top 4 in the east are going to give the Warriors a run for their money if they don't beat each other up first.
Raps added Gasol, Bucks added Mirotic, 76ers added Tobias and Ennis and Boston are just good.
We just beat the Nuggets comfortably without looking spectacular. They didn't have Harris, Thomas, Porter Jr. and Millsap, but it was convincing for a bunch of guys that mostly hadn't played together before and Embiid not being able to keep anything down for 48 hours with a stomach bug.
Watching them tonight, the starting 5 is legit scary, Harris just gives them something they didn't have. I'd love to see them play the Raptors again in Toronto, but they don't play again until playoffs unfortunately.
I follow players not teams.
Lebron Simmons Embiid Davis are my guys.
I always dosliked the cavs organisation especially dan gilbert. Im very happy they are falling apart. I really hope they dont get zion, i have been watching zion for years.
Quote from: Holz on February 11, 2019, 09:56:23 PM
I always dosliked the cavs organisation especially dan gilbert. Im very happy they are falling apart. I really hope they dont get zion, i have been watching zion for years.
TBH i reckon LBJ is a cancer to any team that he goes to.
Yes Gilbert is a douchebag but LBJ is the worst... he strips Teams of any decent future players for old washed up scrubs to get short term success, the 2nd time LBJ came to the cavs the team wasn't great but it was OK, then he came and pretty much stripped it bare of any decent future players and brang in overpaid bums just to win the east... now the Lakers have a lot of very talented young players and they (LBJ & magic) were willing to let go of most of them for AD, dont get me wrong AD is a monster, and i honestly believe that the NOP became too greedy and made a huge mistake in not taking the deal (Ingram/Kuzma/Ball/Hart/Zubac and 2 x 1st Rnd Picks) but c'mon that would've destroyed the Lakers in the long run... LBJ has 4 years max left to play and in those times he'll still be going up against the GSW, and after that will AD stay?? he'll probably leave, leaving Lakers in a sh*t position, i dont give a sh*t about the Lakers i just feel that everybody will forget about the scumbag side of LBJ when talking about his legacy.
phew... rant over.
PS: The Clippers and Kings are slowly looking to be an awesome future teams, teams with no stars and all decently young and all playing pretty well and the team has decnet Cap space. If Clippers can get Kahwi (maybe not now with the trades raptors done) can you imagine the potential.
IMO the more shower Lebron pulls, the further away he gets from GOAT talks, so I'm happy for him to keep doing what he's doing. #legacyselfdestruction
Did everyone cash out their Harden MVP bets? Because I think Giannis will win it from here...
Quote from: Keeper27 on February 12, 2019, 01:40:58 PM
TBH i reckon LBJ is a cancer to any team that he goes to.
Yes Gilbert is a douchebag but LBJ is the worst... he strips Teams of any decent future players for old washed up scrubs to get short term success, the 2nd time LBJ came to the cavs the team wasn't great but it was OK, then he came and pretty much stripped it bare of any decent future players and brang in overpaid bums just to win the east... now the Lakers have a lot of very talented young players and they (LBJ & magic) were willing to let go of most of them for AD, dont get me wrong AD is a monster, and i honestly believe that the NOP became too greedy and made a huge mistake in not taking the deal (Ingram/Kuzma/Ball/Hart/Zubac and 2 x 1st Rnd Picks) but c'mon that would've destroyed the Lakers in the long run... LBJ has 4 years max left to play and in those times he'll still be going up against the GSW, and after that will AD stay?? he'll probably leave, leaving Lakers in a sh*t position, i dont give a sh*t about the Lakers i just feel that everybody will forget about the scumbag side of LBJ when talking about his legacy.
phew... rant over.
Dan Gilbert and the cavs stuffed it up by attempting to trade Kyrie and then butchering the trade, when Lebron told them to keep Kyrie.
Look at what Indiana got for Paul George
lets just look at what the Cavs did with their high end picks.
2011: Tristan Thompson - was good in the Cavs championship year but been pretty disappointing, did get a big contract but it wasn't crazy given how he peformed that year
2011: Kyrie Irving: Nailed the obivous pick but as above they stuffed up the handling of it and got destroyed in the trade moving him for pick 8 essentially.
2012: Dion Waiters: fairly underwhelming pick given his draft range.
2013: Anthony Bennett complete bust
2014: Andrew Wiggins: picked him up then immediately traded for K love (this is one of the ones you can credit Lebron to. Love was a youngish allstar and has been a pretty big success id say having love on the roster has been alot better then having wiggins who hasn't really panned out as expected.
So thats 5 picks with 3 of them being #1s and 2 being #4s
they wiffed on Bennett, did well on Irving but stuffed up the trade, Lebron shipped off Wiggings for Love which was a good move, Waiters and Thompson they both missed on, Lebron pushing to pay for Thompson in hindsight was a mistake
The cavs stuffed up 4 of the above 5 picks and the only Lebron one is moving wiggins which was the correct move. If you want to blame Lebron the fact the cavs finished soo high each year and got late picks meants the Cavs didnt have any lottery picks but as above they showed they are pretty bad at using them.
The best moves the Cavs have done is draft Lebron and Irving and those were a no brainers, everytime they have to make a call they stuff it up.
They had to take on bad contracts because they had no assets to work with, they brought in players on bad contracts as they where all they could get.
Its a win now league we have seen that a bunch of kids dont win championships. Im still waiting for Minnesota to do something.
Look at Philly they made moves to get Butler Tobias and its paying off,
I think we're a fair way off saying Philly getting Butler and Tobias is paying off. No title with this group and it didn't pay off. 1 or more of them leave next season then see you at the next "Process".
Quote from: Holz on February 11, 2019, 09:56:23 PM
I follow players not teams.
Lebron Simmons Embiid Davis are my guys.
I always dosliked the cavs organisation especially dan gilbert. Im very happy they are falling apart. I really hope they dont get zion, i have been watching zion for years.
If you weren't a Processer don't get on the bandwagon.
Quote from: jvalles69 on February 13, 2019, 12:44:33 AM
I think we're a fair way off saying Philly getting Butler and Tobias is paying off. No title with this group and it didn't pay off. 1 or more of them leave next season then see you at the next "Process".
Apart from the fact they still have Embiid and a max slot. I would have liked to have seen what Brand could have done with the Hinke haul instead of old mate with the overly large collar.
Quote from: Mat0369 on February 13, 2019, 01:01:06 AM
If you weren't a Processer don't get on the bandwagon.
How do you think I feel as a Lakers fan that watched 60+ games the last few years and now have the LeBron bandwagoners hating on the young guys!?
Quote from: Mat0369 on February 13, 2019, 01:01:06 AM
Quote from: Holz on February 11, 2019, 09:56:23 PM
I follow players not teams.
Lebron Simmons Embiid Davis are my guys.
I always dosliked the cavs organisation especially dan gilbert. Im very happy they are falling apart. I really hope they dont get zion, i have been watching zion for years.
If you weren't a Processer don't get on the bandwagon.
like it or hate it the NBA is a star league. The fans are split between fans of organisations and fans of players. People people around soo much in the NBA and with the NBA advertising its stars more then the teams it just makes sense, there are only 5 players on the court for your team at one time so following players is just as legit as following teams.
I followed Simmons and Embiid before they where even in the NBA. Simmons the obvious pick
in response to LaHug, those fans arent Lakers Band wagoners they are Loyal Lebron Fans. Its no different to people who werent Lebron fans but now support him because he plays for the lakers.
I dont mind or care about band wagoners... everybody at 1 time in their life was a wagoner.
I'm a spurs fan ever since David Robinson, might not be the best centre of of all time but he's definitely the best for me.
Much love for the #SPURSNATION
Quote from: Keeper27 on February 13, 2019, 06:20:51 PM
I dont mind or care about band wagoners... everybody at 1 time in their life was a wagoner.
I'm a spurs fan ever since David Robinson, might not be the best centre of of all time but he's definitely the best for me.
Much love for the #SPURSNATION
Hah, I loved Robinson when I was kid and huge NBA fan
He was so damn ripped!
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on February 13, 2019, 06:57:10 PM
Quote from: Keeper27 on February 13, 2019, 06:20:51 PM
I dont mind or care about band wagoners... everybody at 1 time in their life was a wagoner.
I'm a spurs fan ever since David Robinson, might not be the best centre of of all time but he's definitely the best for me.
Much love for the #SPURSNATION
Hah, I loved Robinson when I was kid and huge NBA fan
He was so damn ripped!
Bad lol. He was a machine
Was very happy to see him win an MVP and a couple of championships before his retirement
You have a point, Keeper. I started following the NBA in the late 90s and chose the Lakers because of Kobe and Shaq. But, unlike a lot of people I would consider true bandwagoners, I stuck with the team the whole way through even through the tanking era. So it still irks me a little that there are a whole bunch of new Lakers fans because of LeBron that don't actually love the team.
I think Holz raises a fair point though
Most supporters outside of the USA follow their sides initially because of the players they like - obviously they don't live in any of the states so there is no home attachment, it's just player based
Fans who have been constantly following for the last 10-20 years like some of you here are always going to remain loyal to the team, not the players, but many many people, myself included, grew up as huge NBA fans but then for one reason or another lost interest 15+ years ago and have only recently got back into it within the past few years
I'm like Holz, I actually don't follow any team - I just love watching the best players and the best teams play each other
Happy to admit I'm not a die hard supporter by any means, but I can certainly understand why so many people nowadays follow their favourite players, and not the teams
I actually raised this with a friend of mine only last week. When we grew up on NBA in the late 80'a and 90's it was so easy to support your team because all the greats stayed with them, they were 1 club players
Nowadays there's so much player movement it's hard to be a new fan of NBA and stick with one side - people follow their players instead, and thats probably why I just don't follow a side at all - I just love watching the best
Quote from: LaHug on February 14, 2019, 07:46:49 AM
You have a point, Keeper. I started following the NBA in the late 90s and chose the Lakers because of Kobe and Shaq. But, unlike a lot of people I would consider true bandwagoners, I stuck with the team the whole way through even through the tanking era. So it still irks me a little that there are a whole bunch of new Lakers fans because of LeBron that don't actually love the team.
They arent Laker fans though they are Lebron fans and they are hoping the Lebron succeeds and for Lebron to succeed the Lakers must succeed.
I clearly want the Lakers to do well as its the only way Lebron can do well and id buy and wear a Lakers Lebron Jersey but that doesnt make me a Lakers fan.
Lebron fans are actually pretty loyal, they defended him in 2011 and all the other down times.
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on February 14, 2019, 09:20:56 AM
I think Holz raises a fair point though
Most supporters outside of the USA follow their sides initially because of the players they like - obviously they don't live in any of the states so there is no home attachment, it's just player based
Fans who have been constantly following for the last 10-20 years like some of you here are always going to remain loyal to the team, not the players, but many many people, myself included, grew up as huge NBA fans but then for one reason or another lost interest 15+ years ago and have only recently got back into it within the past few years
I'm like Holz, I actually don't follow any team - I just love watching the best players and the best teams play each other
Happy to admit I'm not a die hard supporter by any means, but I can certainly understand why so many people nowadays follow their favourite players, and not the teams
I actually raised this with a friend of mine only last week. When we grew up on NBA in the late 80'a and 90's it was so easy to support your team because all the greats stayed with them, they were 1 club players
Nowadays there's so much player movement it's hard to be a new fan of NBA and stick with one side - people follow their players instead, and thats probably why I just don't follow a side at all - I just love watching the best
This is why i dont follow teams.
In the 90s i was a Charlotte Hornets Fan
Then the team moved to New Orelans and became the New Orleans Hornets
Then a team moved back to Charlotte and became the Charlotte Bobcats
Then New Orlean changes their name to the New Orelan Pelicans
The Charlotte Bobcats change to the Charlotte Hornets.
who on earth do i support? NO or Charlotte
The second example is it was totally possibly this year for the lakers in the space of 1 year to turn from
Ball Ingram Kuzma Randle
to
Rondo Stephenson Lebron Muscala AD.
So you rarely get a chance to follow players unlike the AFL where there might be some movement in 2-3 players of the best 22 but not 80-100% of the starting roster.
Very fair and healthy argument. I like ele's summary best. I've followed the same team for 20 years so will remain a fan of the team regardless of player movement. Other fans just want their favourite players to succeed no matter where.
It's why I can be annoyed with the fact that, if we don't get AD now, LeBron's win-now influence has killed the team long term quite probably for no short term reward. Meanwhile, Holz doesn't have to care about the Lakers long term because he follows LeBron and not the team, so it was a risk worth taking in his eyes. That example is why it irks me that people can be fans of players and not teams - but I totally get why it's a thing.
Quote from: LaHug on February 14, 2019, 10:31:00 AM
Very fair and healthy argument. I like ele's summary best. I've followed the same team for 20 years so will remain a fan of the team regardless of player movement. Other fans just want their favourite players to succeed no matter where.
It's why I can be annoyed with the fact that, if we don't get AD now, LeBron's win-now influence has killed the team long term quite probably for no short term reward. Meanwhile, Holz doesn't have to care about the Lakers long term because he follows LeBron and not the team, so it was a risk worth taking in his eyes. That example is why it irks me that people can be fans of players and not teams - but I totally get why it's a thing.
I do understand where your coming from, however it is a win now league so if the Lakers can pick up a free agent even a jimmy butler or kemba then the lakers are positioned better with Lebron then without. Id say Lebron AD with nobody is far better then Kuzma Ingram Ball.
and lets be honest the lakers as an organisation are famous for bringing in superstars as much as they are for their home grown talent.
Shaq, Wilt, Kareem, Lebron
Yeah man flowering bandwagoners getting on the Nets give me the showers, like ffs stop just jumping on because of all our starts like Levert, Harris and DLo ffs
Quote from: LaHug on February 12, 2019, 05:35:39 PM
Did everyone cash out their Harden MVP bets? Because I think Giannis will win it from here...
Really? Paying 4 bucks atm
Quote from: elephants on February 14, 2019, 11:23:01 AM
Quote from: LaHug on February 12, 2019, 05:35:39 PM
Did everyone cash out their Harden MVP bets? Because I think Giannis will win it from here...
Really? Paying 4 bucks atm
https://www.basketball-reference.com/friv/mvp.html
http://www.nba.com/mvp-ladder
Quote from: elephants on February 14, 2019, 11:21:59 AM
Yeah man flowering bandwagoners getting on the Nets give me the showers, like ffs stop just jumping on because of all our starts like Levert, Harris and DLo ffs
I keep forgetting you guys are in the league.
Quote from: Holz on February 14, 2019, 12:02:04 PM
Quote from: elephants on February 14, 2019, 11:21:59 AM
Yeah man flowering bandwagoners getting on the Nets give me the showers, like ffs stop just jumping on because of all our starts like Levert, Harris and DLo ffs
I keep forgetting you guys are in the league.
One less bandwagoner to deal with yay
Watching GSW Portland atm
Can't say I've ever seen Steve Kerr go crazy like that - he just got kicked out haha
I cashed out all my Harden bets, had $500 oddans ended up 2K+ so can't complain. I do think if Harden loses any steam whatsoever then Giannis goes to the top. Guys putting up Shaq like numbers and does not have a jump shot, such an unstoppable force. Mate was on PG-13 @ $201, has come into to $5, he's cashed out very nicely.
I think id give PG the award.
More effecient then harden and far better defender.
Quality > Quantity
Quote from: Holz on February 15, 2019, 08:58:13 AM
I think id give PG the award.
More effecient then harden and far better defender.
Quality > Quantity
The argument for Harden is lots of points and that insane stretch. The argument for Giannis is best player on the best team (and honestly better than everyone this season regardless of his team). I can't see an argument for George that isn't an argument for Giannis.
I'd go Giannis then George then Harden though... for what it's worth.
Quote from: LaHug on February 15, 2019, 09:41:53 AM
Quote from: Holz on February 15, 2019, 08:58:13 AM
I think id give PG the award.
More effecient then harden and far better defender.
Quality > Quantity
The argument for Harden is lots of points and that insane stretch. The argument for Giannis is best player on the best team (and honestly better than everyone this season regardless of his team). I can't see an argument for George that isn't an argument for Giannis.
I'd go Giannis then George then Harden though... for what it's worth.
Well Paul George is on a pretty insane scoring run too.
George v Giannis
George - more points, giannis is better around the rim but George can spread the floor with elite 3 point shooting
George - defense better (giannis is good but George is DPOY)
Thunder is also an elite team
for me its Giannis v George.
it depends if George keeps this up or not.
NBA MVP has to have a story attached, so far Harden has the best story with the streak. Giannis only has best team record, and PG I guess has staying in OKC to take them into the finals. Both lesser than Hardens streak story line.
Watching OKC NOP now
Literally no crowd there... they need to get out the tarps! ;D
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on February 15, 2019, 12:39:58 PM
Watching OKC NOP now
Literally no crowd there... they need to get out the tarps! ;D
they should have made the trade.
AD is basically their team at the moment and no fan likes him. So its understandable nobody is turning up.
If he gets injured then they are stuffed.
Quote from: Holz on February 15, 2019, 01:06:36 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on February 15, 2019, 12:39:58 PM
Watching OKC NOP now
Literally no crowd there... they need to get out the tarps! ;D
they should have made the trade.
AD is basically their team at the moment and no fan likes him. So its understandable nobody is turning up.
If he gets injured then they are stuffed.
I'm not sure an injury would matter. I caught a NOP game last week and Davis had like 32 half way into the 3rd, and then they just benched him for the entire rest of the match. He wasn't injured. The most obvious tanking you could see, the game was on the line during the last 5 minutes too and he didn't come on - that's really bad that shower like that is just allowed like that
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on February 15, 2019, 03:19:54 PM
Quote from: Holz on February 15, 2019, 01:06:36 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on February 15, 2019, 12:39:58 PM
Watching OKC NOP now
Literally no crowd there... they need to get out the tarps! ;D
they should have made the trade.
AD is basically their team at the moment and no fan likes him. So its understandable nobody is turning up.
If he gets injured then they are stuffed.
I'm not sure an injury would matter. I caught a NOP game last week and Davis had like 32 half way into the 3rd, and then they just benched him for the entire rest of the match. He wasn't injured. The most obvious tanking you could see, the game was on the line during the last 5 minutes too and he didn't come on - that's really bad that shower like that is just allowed like that
He now leaves the game "injured" walking out of the stadium with his agent.
Quote from: Holz on February 15, 2019, 03:23:44 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on February 15, 2019, 03:19:54 PM
Quote from: Holz on February 15, 2019, 01:06:36 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on February 15, 2019, 12:39:58 PM
Watching OKC NOP now
Literally no crowd there... they need to get out the tarps! ;D
they should have made the trade.
AD is basically their team at the moment and no fan likes him. So its understandable nobody is turning up.
If he gets injured then they are stuffed.
I'm not sure an injury would matter. I caught a NOP game last week and Davis had like 32 half way into the 3rd, and then they just benched him for the entire rest of the match. He wasn't injured. The most obvious tanking you could see, the game was on the line during the last 5 minutes too and he didn't come on - that's really bad that shower like that is just allowed like that
He now leaves the game "injured" walking out of the stadium with his agent.
It's just a debacle, and a real blight on the game that it seemingly happens without penalty
I watched today's coverage of the All Star weekend. The "skills" event is pretty crap, and other than Diallo's second dunk over Shaq (which was great) every other dunk was really lame and disappointing
3 point shoot out was the pick of the 3 events. Steph was looking like a lock to win it, but then had a surprisingly bad patch and just lost out to Harris
The 3 point contest has been the best bit of the Saturday for the last few years. Last time the dunk contest was good was Lavine vs. Gordon.
Joe Harris! Good Brooklyn boy
I got on Diallo at $7, winner winner chicken dinner! 8)
All Star game was actually quite enjoyable to watch today. Huge come back from Team Lebron
Felt like Curry was way off, missing so many shots
Was so good seeing Nowitski's start - came on and sunk his first 3 3's which got everyone up and about
AD only played 5 minutes, why bother? Just sit out and give someone else a go instead
Giannis was huge, especially his first quarter which was insane, but KD gonna KD - deserved MVP
How would you guys say someone who is new to NBA should pick a side to follow?
I'm heavily into the NBA now, watching several games every week, learning more etc and just really loving it. I grew up as an NBA fan and was/am still a die hard Jordan fan, so naturally I was a Bulls fan as a kid growing up, but I lost interest in the NBA around the same time Jordan retired, and have only really gotten back into the NBA recently
I have no emotional attachment to the Bulls now - it's been 20+ years since I was really into NBA so that makes sense
I guess I'm back into it so much now because the current state of the game is great to watch, and this current era certainly has a lot of guns which makes it much more attractive too
Anyway, I've always felt that with any new sport, you just watch more and more games, see more and more players/teams and then naturally you just gravitate towards a certain team/s - it's very natural and it just feels right. It could be based on players, the team name, the logo and colours, or just anything. Would everyone agree with that being the natural way? I think it is
I actually enjoy the fact that I don't have a side I barrack for - I just love watching the best players and teams every week, but I've started to wonder recently, if I was going to actually pick a side, who would it be?
I love watching GSW for obvious reasons, but that's just blatant bandwagoning lol although I do genuinely feel a pull towards them, mostly because of KD
The Sixers are another team I love to watch, and there's a natural pull towards them because of Simmons
The third team for me is OKC, and as much as I love watching most teams play I think OKC has the most natural pull for me. Westbrook, PG and even Adams lol, there's just something about those 3, the colours/logo etc which all really works for me too. A friend of mine is a big OKC fan too so perhaps that also ties into it all
I think if I was forced to actually pick a side to follow then it would definitely be 1 of those 3. I love watching Kawhi, Lebron, Harden, Giannis etc but I just have zero feelings or affection towards their teams/club
Curious to hear what others think. Maybe it's best to not actually pick a team, and just continue to watch everyone?
Watch the players you enjoy watching, you don't have an affinity to a team so don't bother. I've always followed the Bulls because Jordan had such a big impact on my life, the Rose came along and I loved him. They are terrible now, but I still wear a bulls hat etc. Its more fun following players and not having any connection, as you said you can follow those 3 teams is fine Imo, we're Australian so have no connection to US states etc. Follow an NBL team and watch whatever NBA games you want!
Simmons probably won't be in Philly that much longer. There have been a lot of trade rumours circulating and they are just going to grow as he gets closer to his new contract.
Yeah this is why I haven't chosen a team to follow - I just don't think it's necessary
I watch heaps of games, and just love watching the best do their thing, and there's plenty of players I really like and clubs I have a soft spot for, but I think it's much better not having a team
jvalles69, Jordan has had a huge impact on me too - insanely huge like you wouldn't believe. I actually have two signed and framed jerseys, one red and one white, and they're my absolute pride and joy
Looks like Bogut is heading back to GSW!
I find that following a team instead of players gives me a similar sense of emotion as following a team in the AFL (although I'll never be attached to anything as much as Richmond - sadly, my girlfriend probably would attest to that...). I chose the Lakers originally because I was 10 years old playing basketball at lunch time and there was this young new star named Kobe Bryant who was the most exciting player in the world. I stuck with them for his whole career and, by the time he retired, I was fully attached to the Purple and Gold. These last few years of tanking and now LeBron potentially saving or potentially destroying the rebuild has been really trying but it'll all be worth it whenever we're eventually back winning.
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on March 05, 2019, 12:36:46 AM
Yeah this is why I haven't chosen a team to follow - I just don't think it's necessary
I watch heaps of games, and just love watching the best do their thing, and there's plenty of players I really like and clubs I have a soft spot for, but I think it's much better not having a team
jvalles69, Jordan has had a huge impact on me too - insanely huge like you wouldn't believe. I actually have two signed and framed jerseys, one red and one white, and they're my absolute pride and joy
Oh I believe it, I saw MJ play for the first time at the age of 6, have had a basketball in my hand ever since. Played in the MJ Gatorade 3 on 3 challenge with the hopes of meeting him, but finished 3rd in my division for Perth. I have a signed and framed picture of him on the wall (also a Rodman jersey and personalised message on a framed picture, and a Kukoc signed penant). I also have almost every trading card produced up until his first retirement (missing his RC"s which are on my bucket list of things to own). GOAT for me and my generation. 8)
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on March 05, 2019, 08:36:13 AM
Looks like Bogut is heading back to GSW!
jeez it is a good little earner bogut gets every 2nd year isn't it.
Quote from: LaHug on March 05, 2019, 11:02:29 AM
I find that following a team instead of players gives me a similar sense of emotion as following a team in the AFL (although I'll never be attached to anything as much as Richmond - sadly, my girlfriend probably would attest to that...). I chose the Lakers originally because I was 10 years old playing basketball at lunch time and there was this young new star named Kobe Bryant who was the most exciting player in the world. I stuck with them for his whole career and, by the time he retired, I was fully attached to the Purple and Gold. These last few years of tanking and now LeBron potentially saving or potentially destroying the rebuild has been really trying but it'll all be worth it whenever we're eventually back winning.
i think you where lucky that your favourite player stayed with the team his whole career.
If instead you followed Lebron then who would you have gone for? you wouldnt have got that really large span of years following the one team.
RD i say pick a young favourite player and support him. If he moves then thats too bad but if he stays his whole career there then you will probably turn into that fan.
Quote from: Holz on March 05, 2019, 12:47:26 PM
Quote from: LaHug on March 05, 2019, 11:02:29 AM
I find that following a team instead of players gives me a similar sense of emotion as following a team in the AFL (although I'll never be attached to anything as much as Richmond - sadly, my girlfriend probably would attest to that...). I chose the Lakers originally because I was 10 years old playing basketball at lunch time and there was this young new star named Kobe Bryant who was the most exciting player in the world. I stuck with them for his whole career and, by the time he retired, I was fully attached to the Purple and Gold. These last few years of tanking and now LeBron potentially saving or potentially destroying the rebuild has been really trying but it'll all be worth it whenever we're eventually back winning.
i think you where lucky that your favourite player stayed with the team his whole career.
If instead you followed Lebron then who would you have gone for? you wouldnt have got that really large span of years following the one team.
RD i say pick a young favourite player and support him. If he moves then thats too bad but if he stays his whole career there then you will probably turn into that fan.
Definitely, it's a meat market now, but that does add a new dimension to the game. I'm glad that you didn't count Washington too. :P
After MJ I followed players I loved, Penny Hardaway, then Dwyane Wade, then Derrick Rose. I don't think there is anyone I follow now like those days though, just enjoy good basketball.
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on March 05, 2019, 08:36:13 AM
Looks like Bogut is heading back to GSW!
Just me or does anyone else think Sydney should block this... It’s a team sport, his team could still be playing. Personally I’d block it until the NBL finals are finished
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Quote from: RaisyDaisy on March 05, 2019, 08:36:13 AM
Looks like Bogut is heading back to GSW!
Just me or does anyone else think Sydney should block this... It’s a team sport, his team could still be playing. Personally I’d block it until the NBL finals are finished
Sydney are eliminated though, are they not?
Quote from: jvalles69 on March 05, 2019, 12:56:49 PM
I don't think there is anyone I follow now like those days though, just enjoy good basketball.
This is pretty much me now too
One thing I loved about growing up in our era was that most of the greats were all 1 club players, so supporting "your team" just had more of a feeling to it
Now it's just a meat market, and very hard to invest into a side, so I'll stick to just loving watching great basketball and great players :)
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on March 05, 2019, 02:15:38 PM
Quote from: jvalles69 on March 05, 2019, 12:56:49 PM
I don't think there is anyone I follow now like those days though, just enjoy good basketball.
This is pretty much me now too
One thing I loved about growing up in our era was that most of the greats were all 1 club players, so supporting "your team" just had more of a feeling to it
Now it's just a meat market, and very hard to invest into a side, so I'll stick to just loving watching great basketball and great players :)
You're an Eagles supporter so I would say get on the Wildcats train, the atmosphere is amazing at the games and membership is a fraction of the cost of Eagles. Closest you will get to American style sports in Australia.
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Quote from: RaisyDaisy on March 05, 2019, 02:15:38 PM
Quote from: jvalles69 on March 05, 2019, 12:56:49 PM
I don't think there is anyone I follow now like those days though, just enjoy good basketball.
This is pretty much me now too
One thing I loved about growing up in our era was that most of the greats were all 1 club players, so supporting "your team" just had more of a feeling to it
Now it's just a meat market, and very hard to invest into a side, so I'll stick to just loving watching great basketball and great players :)
You're an Eagles supporter so I would say get on the Wildcats train, the atmosphere is amazing at the games and membership is a fraction of the cost of Eagles. Closest you will get to American style sports in Australia.
I'm an Eagles supporter, but I'm born, raised and live in Melbourne :)
NBL doesn't really interest me. I mean, I'll watch a little bit if I am surfing and it's on, but I don't follow it at all like I do the NBA
I think I am at the age now where supporting new clubs probably isn't my thing. WCE is the only club I am passionate about, every other sport I just watch the best but don't support an actual team
This loss to the Clippers likely knocks LeBrons Lakers out of the playoffs. :o
Quote from: jvalles69 on March 05, 2019, 04:50:06 PM
This loss to the Clippers likely knocks LeBrons Lakers out of the playoffs. :o
Lakers are so shower. I can't quite put it into words but there's something about their starting 5 which just has a real misfit feel to me, and I just don't rate guys like Rondo and Ingram much at all
I'm not sure LeBron thought it would have actually been this bad lol
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Quote from: jvalles69 on March 05, 2019, 04:50:06 PM
This loss to the Clippers likely knocks LeBrons Lakers out of the playoffs. :o
Lakers are so shower. I can't quite put it into words but there's something about their starting 5 which just has a real misfit feel to me, and I just don't rate guys like Rondo and Ingram much at all
I'm not sure LeBron thought it would have actually been this bad lol
Rondo's actually been one of their best players, Ingram is good, but just doesn't fit. Things didn't go according to plan for LeBron, it all derailed when Kyrie left the Cavs. I for one am glad this is happening, LeBron gets away with way too much and it's coming back to bite him now. Ruined the Cavs after saying he would play out his career there, made them pay ridiculous amounts to Tristan and JR, plus tried to get them to trade their one and only decent draft pick, then left them to burn. Winning a championship probably outweighs all that, but Cavs have been left decimated. Now Walton will get fired and LeBron will decide who the coach is. He'll get his free agents again eventually, he'll trade who he wants, but his additions Beasley, Stephenson, McGee have all been fails compared to the young guys.
Yeah, LeBron has ruined the Lakers. We're going to end with the same record as last year but have since lost Randle and Zubac from our young core. Next he'll orchestrate trading away Ingram, Lonzo, and Kuzma, and we won't be winning a championship in the West with LeBron and his ragtag idiots...
I honestly think we'd be better off if we'd just kept DLo (flowering Mozgov contract), Randle, Zu and had a really strong 6-7 player young core.
Probably didn't word that right re Rondo, just don't think he fits, the entire line up just has a real misfit feel for me. He just became the second person ever to make a triple double with 5 different clubs - that's pure journeyman
Anyway, how the hell do Phoenix keep beating Milwaukee? Lol
Quote from: LaHug on March 05, 2019, 07:31:46 PM
Yeah, LeBron has ruined the Lakers. We're going to end with the same record as last year but have since lost Randle and Zubac from our young core. Next he'll orchestrate trading away Ingram, Lonzo, and Kuzma, and we won't be winning a championship in the West with LeBron and his ragtag idiots...
I honestly think we'd be better off if we'd just kept DLo (flowering Mozgov contract), Randle, Zu and had a really strong 6-7 player young core.
Randle was a huge mistake, they did not give him enough respect and he'd be beasting it next to Lebron right now.
Snitch has been incredible, never thought he'd show this type of talent, but he might be one of the leagues most elite scorers in the next 5 years.
https://www.reddit.com/r/nba/comments/axiw6q/kuzma_pushing_lebron_to_play_some_defense_in/?utm_medium=android_app&utm_source=share
https://www.reddit.com/r/nba/comments/axn1xl/lebron_commits_a_turnover_with_a_poor_pass_but/?utm_medium=android_app&utm_source=share
This is the crap LeBron has been doing this season while also complaining about the young core. I'm sure next year will be different but right now I'm sick of his shower.
Quote from: LaHug on March 06, 2019, 09:27:27 AM
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https://www.reddit.com/r/nba/comments/axn1xl/lebron_commits_a_turnover_with_a_poor_pass_but/?utm_medium=android_app&utm_source=share
This is the crap LeBron has been doing this season while also complaining about the young core. I'm sure next year will be different but right now I'm sick of his shower.
The young core was fine until Lebron turned his back on them and tried to trade them. His player signers were trash. Someone/anybody needs to call him out and hold him accountable. Less and less superstars want to play with him.
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https://www.reddit.com/r/nba/comments/axn1xl/lebron_commits_a_turnover_with_a_poor_pass_but/?utm_medium=android_app&utm_source=share
This is the crap LeBron has been doing this season while also complaining about the young core. I'm sure next year will be different but right now I'm sick of his shower.
The young core was fine until Lebron turned his back on them and tried to trade them. His player signers were trash. Someone/anybody needs to call him out and hold him accountable. Less and less superstars want to play with him.
was it?
the team was going great. 4th seed in the west, Lebron a MVP candidate and then Lebron got injured.
They then struggled before the AD talk.
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https://www.reddit.com/r/nba/comments/axn1xl/lebron_commits_a_turnover_with_a_poor_pass_but/?utm_medium=android_app&utm_source=share
This is the crap LeBron has been doing this season while also complaining about the young core. I'm sure next year will be different but right now I'm sick of his shower.
The young core was fine until Lebron turned his back on them and tried to trade them. His player signers were trash. Someone/anybody needs to call him out and hold him accountable. Less and less superstars want to play with him.
was it?
the team was going great. 4th seed in the west, Lebron a MVP candidate and then Lebron got injured.
They then struggled before the AD talk.
Can't confirm, but pretty sure the first 25-50% of the season was fairly easy for them schedule wise. LeBron has been banging on about living and breathing basketball to the younger guys, yet he's in the studio with 2 Chains and preparing to make Space Jam 2, leaders lead by example, Lebron is not this.
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https://www.reddit.com/r/nba/comments/axn1xl/lebron_commits_a_turnover_with_a_poor_pass_but/?utm_medium=android_app&utm_source=share
This is the crap LeBron has been doing this season while also complaining about the young core. I'm sure next year will be different but right now I'm sick of his shower.
The young core was fine until Lebron turned his back on them and tried to trade them. His player signers were trash. Someone/anybody needs to call him out and hold him accountable. Less and less superstars want to play with him.
was it?
the team was going great. 4th seed in the west, Lebron a MVP candidate and then Lebron got injured.
They then struggled before the AD talk.
Can't confirm, but pretty sure the first 25-50% of the season was fairly easy for them schedule wise. LeBron has been banging on about living and breathing basketball to the younger guys, yet he's in the studio with 2 Chains and preparing to make Space Jam 2, leaders lead by example, Lebron is not this.
He uses cryotherapy, hyperbaric chambers, has a strict routine and diet, hires personal chefs and trainers. He looks after his body.
Lebron has proven himself over decades. He has put the time in and thats why he was on MVP pace before going down with an injury in year 16 when many of his fellow legends had already retired. He is already 15th all time for minutes played and will likely end up top 3.
Space Jam 2 is shooting in the offseason (and you cant spend your whole time training and playing in the offseason you need rest)
I think calling out one of the best atheltes ever in the nba who has put this much time and effort into his body and his game is a bad move.
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https://www.reddit.com/r/nba/comments/axn1xl/lebron_commits_a_turnover_with_a_poor_pass_but/?utm_medium=android_app&utm_source=share
This is the crap LeBron has been doing this season while also complaining about the young core. I'm sure next year will be different but right now I'm sick of his shower.
The young core was fine until Lebron turned his back on them and tried to trade them. His player signers were trash. Someone/anybody needs to call him out and hold him accountable. Less and less superstars want to play with him.
was it?
the team was going great. 4th seed in the west, Lebron a MVP candidate and then Lebron got injured.
They then struggled before the AD talk.
Can't confirm, but pretty sure the first 25-50% of the season was fairly easy for them schedule wise. LeBron has been banging on about living and breathing basketball to the younger guys, yet he's in the studio with 2 Chains and preparing to make Space Jam 2, leaders lead by example, Lebron is not this.
He uses cryotherapy, hyperbaric chambers, has a strict routine and diet, hires personal chefs and trainers. He looks after his body.
Lebron has proven himself over decades. He has put the time in and thats why he was on MVP pace before going down with an injury in year 16 when many of his fellow legends had already retired. He is already 15th all time for minutes played and will likely end up top 3.
Space Jam 2 is shooting in the offseason (and you cant spend your whole time training and playing in the offseason you need rest)
I think calling out one of the best atheltes ever in the nba who has put this much time and effort into his body and his game is a bad move.
No ones doubting his routine and ability. My issue with calling him out is what he does to orchestrate what happens around him. "Taking my talents to south beach", "I'm coming home"...only to bail again when things got tough. Lets trade all our young assets. Let's fire our coach, multiple times. you can't honestly think that he should be commended for all of this plus more. I'm a big Lebron fan in terms of his ability and talent, however these things knock him down quite a few pegs.
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https://www.reddit.com/r/nba/comments/axiw6q/kuzma_pushing_lebron_to_play_some_defense_in/?utm_medium=android_app&utm_source=share
https://www.reddit.com/r/nba/comments/axn1xl/lebron_commits_a_turnover_with_a_poor_pass_but/?utm_medium=android_app&utm_source=share
This is the crap LeBron has been doing this season while also complaining about the young core. I'm sure next year will be different but right now I'm sick of his shower.
The young core was fine until Lebron turned his back on them and tried to trade them. His player signers were trash. Someone/anybody needs to call him out and hold him accountable. Less and less superstars want to play with him.
was it?
the team was going great. 4th seed in the west, Lebron a MVP candidate and then Lebron got injured.
They then struggled before the AD talk.
Can't confirm, but pretty sure the first 25-50% of the season was fairly easy for them schedule wise. LeBron has been banging on about living and breathing basketball to the younger guys, yet he's in the studio with 2 Chains and preparing to make Space Jam 2, leaders lead by example, Lebron is not this.
He uses cryotherapy, hyperbaric chambers, has a strict routine and diet, hires personal chefs and trainers. He looks after his body.
Lebron has proven himself over decades. He has put the time in and thats why he was on MVP pace before going down with an injury in year 16 when many of his fellow legends had already retired. He is already 15th all time for minutes played and will likely end up top 3.
Space Jam 2 is shooting in the offseason (and you cant spend your whole time training and playing in the offseason you need rest)
I think calling out one of the best atheltes ever in the nba who has put this much time and effort into his body and his game is a bad move.
No ones doubting his routine and ability. My issue with calling him out is what he does to orchestrate what happens around him. "Taking my talents to south beach", "I'm coming home"...only to bail again when things got tough. Lets trade all our young assets. Let's fire our coach, multiple times. you can't honestly think that he should be commended for all of this plus more. I'm a big Lebron fan in terms of his ability and talent, however these things knock him down quite a few pegs.
Took his talent to south beach: 2 championships and 4/4 trips to the finals.
Im coming home to win a title for Cleveland"" Won a championship for Cleveland and 4/4 trips to the finals
Trading the young assets and coach looks the correct move: Answer this what has this young talent and coach achieved? The start of the season pre Lebron injury is the only success Walton and these young lakers have had.
every year there is drama around this time and every year bar this year it hasnt mattered. I always felt this was the first time a lebron team wasnt contending and the injury to Lebron just wiped out the playoffs.
I think you're missing my point, he's controlling what happens to everything around him, the end of the Cavs and not getting AD to LA are both times things have failed due to his "control" not working. Miami and the beginning of the his return to the Cavs were both still under his control, but they panned out for him (although Miami losing to Dallas in the finals is one of the worst losses I can remember). Ability, work ethic, success is not in question...the way he goes about getting there is very questionable.
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I don't think there is anyone I follow now like those days though, just enjoy good basketball.
This is pretty much me now too
One thing I loved about growing up in our era was that most of the greats were all 1 club players, so supporting "your team" just had more of a feeling to it
Now it's just a meat market, and very hard to invest into a side, so I'll stick to just loving watching great basketball and great players :)
You're an Eagles supporter so I would say get on the Wildcats train, the atmosphere is amazing at the games and membership is a fraction of the cost of Eagles. Closest you will get to American style sports in Australia.
I'm an Eagles supporter, but I'm born, raised and live in Melbourne :)
NBL doesn't really interest me. I mean, I'll watch a little bit if I am surfing and it's on, but I don't follow it at all like I do the NBA
I think I am at the age now where supporting new clubs probably isn't my thing. WCE is the only club I am passionate about, every other sport I just watch the best but don't support an actual team
Must have been a large bandwagon when you got onboard with the Eagles, RD Sounds like you were a kid when they won there first premiership.
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I don't think there is anyone I follow now like those days though, just enjoy good basketball.
This is pretty much me now too
One thing I loved about growing up in our era was that most of the greats were all 1 club players, so supporting "your team" just had more of a feeling to it
Now it's just a meat market, and very hard to invest into a side, so I'll stick to just loving watching great basketball and great players :)
You're an Eagles supporter so I would say get on the Wildcats train, the atmosphere is amazing at the games and membership is a fraction of the cost of Eagles. Closest you will get to American style sports in Australia.
I'm an Eagles supporter, but I'm born, raised and live in Melbourne :)
NBL doesn't really interest me. I mean, I'll watch a little bit if I am surfing and it's on, but I don't follow it at all like I do the NBA
I think I am at the age now where supporting new clubs probably isn't my thing. WCE is the only club I am passionate about, every other sport I just watch the best but don't support an actual team
Must have been a large bandwagon when you got onboard with the Eagles, RD Sounds like you were a kid when they won there first premiership.
No bandwagon for me mate
I've followed WCE ever since they joined the league in 1986/87
I was 3-4 years of age, liked the name, colours and logo, and decided to follow them and have been with them since, from the very beginning :)
Quote from: jvalles69 on March 06, 2019, 05:08:32 PM
I think you're missing my point, he's controlling what happens to everything around him, the end of the Cavs and not getting AD to LA are both times things have failed due to his "control" not working. Miami and the beginning of the his return to the Cavs were both still under his control, but they panned out for him (although Miami losing to Dallas in the finals is one of the worst losses I can remember). Ability, work ethic, success is not in question...the way he goes about getting there is very questionable.
What im saying is the way he has handled the lakers is how he always handles it.
The difference is he got injured, the lakers got injured and NO didnt play ball. So the result was bad.
My point is his actions where correct the lakers were doing nothing. The truth is the lakers are a vehicle to get what he wants. That sucks for lonzo ingram kuzma etc.. but they werent doing anything. Might as well roll the dice wirh Lebron then just be medicore
If lebron went to philly instead of LA i reckon lakers still dont make the playoffs.
Quote from: Holz on March 07, 2019, 07:59:26 AM
If lebron went to philly instead of LA i reckon lakers still dont make the playoffs.
Probably not... but we'd be in the same spot in the standings, competing with the Kings and Clippers for a playoff spot. Except, without LeBron, we have a young core that isn't miserable and is still improving, and still have the cap space to get a younger star with less ego that sees a young core that's only a couple of years away from competing.
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If lebron went to philly instead of LA i reckon lakers still dont make the playoffs.
Probably not... but we'd be in the same spot in the standings, competing with the Kings and Clippers for a playoff spot. Except, without LeBron, we have a young core that isn't miserable and is still improving, and still have the cap space to get a younger star with less ego that sees a young core that's only a couple of years away from competing.
Well i disagree that they are anywhere near competing.
It was always going to take a free agent or 2 superstar coming to be relevant. Couldnt land pg or kawhi in trades.
Lebron is here for 4 years, 1st year was always a retooling year. Lets give it some time before analysing.
Lebron after mavs loss in 2011 looked horrible. Miami went on to win 2 straight chsmpionships. Lets see what happens
Lucky it was KD to who went to Golden State if it was LeBron they would be as bad as the Knicks
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If lebron went to philly instead of LA i reckon lakers still dont make the playoffs.
Probably not... but we'd be in the same spot in the standings, competing with the Kings and Clippers for a playoff spot. Except, without LeBron, we have a young core that isn't miserable and is still improving, and still have the cap space to get a younger star with less ego that sees a young core that's only a couple of years away from competing.
Well i disagree that they are anywhere near competing.
It was always going to take a free agent or 2 superstar coming to be relevant. Couldnt land pg or kawhi in trades.
Lebron is here for 4 years, 1st year was always a retooling year. Lets give it some time before analysing.
Lebron after mavs loss in 2011 looked horrible. Miami went on to win 2 straight chsmpionships. Lets see what happens
You don't know though what another year under the belt for Kuzma, Ingam, Hart and Lonzo could've been without Lebron. Maybe all of them take there games to a higher level if Lebron didn't arrive, there would be no Rondo, Stephenson, Beasley to take their minutes. Zubac starting C. There were just as much of a chance to breakout like the Kings did, instead their attitudes have changed, they've had to learn that it's a business because of LeBron and they honestly some times look like basketball isn't enjoyable for them as much any more.
Lakers record with Lebron this season is 21-24.
Bogut officially heading over to GSW for the remainder of the NBA season, then back to Sydney for the 2020 season
This is the part about the NBA which I just don't like - being able to bring in guys mid season like this for literally 3 months and then they're gone again
Call me old fashioned, but I like the idea of a championship team having grinded out the entire season together
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If lebron went to philly instead of LA i reckon lakers still dont make the playoffs.
Probably not... but we'd be in the same spot in the standings, competing with the Kings and Clippers for a playoff spot. Except, without LeBron, we have a young core that isn't miserable and is still improving, and still have the cap space to get a younger star with less ego that sees a young core that's only a couple of years away from competing.
Well i disagree that they are anywhere near competing.
It was always going to take a free agent or 2 superstar coming to be relevant. Couldnt land pg or kawhi in trades.
Lebron is here for 4 years, 1st year was always a retooling year. Lets give it some time before analysing.
Lebron after mavs loss in 2011 looked horrible. Miami went on to win 2 straight chsmpionships. Lets see what happens
You don't know though what another year under the belt for Kuzma, Ingam, Hart and Lonzo could've been without Lebron. Maybe all of them take there games to a higher level if Lebron didn't arrive, there would be no Rondo, Stephenson, Beasley to take their minutes. Zubac starting C. There were just as much of a chance to breakout like the Kings did, instead their attitudes have changed, they've had to learn that it's a business because of LeBron and they honestly some times look like basketball isn't enjoyable for them as much any more.
Lakers record with Lebron this season is 21-24.
Thats potentially true.
Or they could have just wallowed in mediocrity like the Timber wolves who id say are considerably more talented then the Lakers young group.
I think honestly the Lakers youth are overrated due to their draft position.
Ball has shown he cant stay on the court soo far, is inconsistent and has an inconsistent shot.
Kuzma i like and a good solid player but as your #1 option you will do nothing
INgram shows flashes but is inconsistent.
Lakers where 35-47 the previous year
Lakers where 20-14 pre Lebron injury (even with a slow start)
Then the Lakers record without Lebron in the Line up is 6-11
Lakers stand at 30-34 now so if you remove the 6-11 that puts them 24-23 so not sure where your getting your 21-24 stat from.
51% with Lebron
35% without Lebron this year
43% without Lebron Last year
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If lebron went to philly instead of LA i reckon lakers still dont make the playoffs.
Probably not... but we'd be in the same spot in the standings, competing with the Kings and Clippers for a playoff spot. Except, without LeBron, we have a young core that isn't miserable and is still improving, and still have the cap space to get a younger star with less ego that sees a young core that's only a couple of years away from competing.
Well i disagree that they are anywhere near competing.
It was always going to take a free agent or 2 superstar coming to be relevant. Couldnt land pg or kawhi in trades.
Lebron is here for 4 years, 1st year was always a retooling year. Lets give it some time before analysing.
Lebron after mavs loss in 2011 looked horrible. Miami went on to win 2 straight chsmpionships. Lets see what happens
You don't know though what another year under the belt for Kuzma, Ingam, Hart and Lonzo could've been without Lebron. Maybe all of them take there games to a higher level if Lebron didn't arrive, there would be no Rondo, Stephenson, Beasley to take their minutes. Zubac starting C. There were just as much of a chance to breakout like the Kings did, instead their attitudes have changed, they've had to learn that it's a business because of LeBron and they honestly some times look like basketball isn't enjoyable for them as much any more.
Lakers record with Lebron this season is 21-24.
Thats potentially true.
Or they could have just wallowed in mediocrity like the Timber wolves who id say are considerably more talented then the Lakers young group.
I think honestly the Lakers youth are overrated due to their draft position.
Ball has shown he cant stay on the court soo far, is inconsistent and has an inconsistent shot.
Kuzma i like and a good solid player but as your #1 option you will do nothing
INgram shows flashes but is inconsistent.
Lakers where 35-47 the previous year
Lakers where 20-14 pre Lebron injury (even with a slow start)
Then the Lakers record without Lebron in the Line up is 6-11
Lakers stand at 30-34 now so if you remove the 6-11 that puts them 24-23 so not sure where your getting your 21-24 stat from.
51% with Lebron
35% without Lebron this year
43% without Lebron Last year
Wolves, Lakers, Pelicans, Mavs, even possibly the Suns ans Griz have a better team on "paper" than the Kings so anything's possible.
21-24 was out of an article I read yesterday, so could very possibly be wrong, couldn't be bothered going through box scores to check...
It is possible they could have done a Kings. However its more likely they would be in the boat of the suns mavs wolves. For every Kings there is 5+ young teams struggling. Plus the Kings will do nothing anyway.
Look at the top teams.
GWS - added KD
Toronto - added Kawhi
Boston - added Irving Hayward Horford
Philly - added Harris Butler
Rockets - added CP3 Harden
As i said lets give the lakers some time. If they land a FA or land AD and Lebron can get back to 100% then im confident saying they are light years ahead of where they would be.
I don't doubt Lebron will get his FA or two, which ones is anyone's guess, AD might have to wait till his contract is done before he can sign with the Lakers. Hopefully KD goes to New York and we get some sort of a reset on the landscape of the NBA.
Was thinking this morning, who's going to win their next title first, Boston or Lakers, Celts have lost a fair bit of traction and the East has gotten stronger, not to mention Celts have regressed since Kyrie and Hayward came back.
My dream scenario...
Kyrie decides he wants to team up with LeBron again and comes to the Lakers. This strengthens the Lakers AND removes the Celtics from the AD bidding war. That means that LA can lower their offer for AD and could get him for something like Kuzma, Ingram OR Lonzo, this years 1st round pick. Lakers can then trot out a lineup of...
Irving, Ball/Ingram, Hart, LeBron, Davis and fill the bench with free agents that want to go for a ring.
Of course, this is about as likely as the Lakers making the playoffs this season, but it's the only way I see us winning a ring in LeBron's tenure.
There are a few other guys around, Kemba, Lillard, McCollum who would fit pretty well next to Lebron. Surely KD and Kyrie are gone to the Knicks now, when those 2 are together it's like a couple of giggling school girls.
I'll always feel we were robbed by a dynasty from OKC, man they did everything right only to do everything wrong. :'( They are actually looking really good now though with PG13.
It looks all but certain that Lillard, CJ, and Kemba will all stay put though...
Quote from: LaHug on March 07, 2019, 02:14:41 PM
It looks all but certain that Lillard, CJ, and Kemba will all stay put though...
Yeah, think CJ and Kemba are a small chance to leave. If Kyrie somehow stay in Boston then Knick and Lakers might push for Kemba.
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Probably didn't word that right re Rondo, just don't think he fits, the entire line up just has a real misfit feel for me. He just became the second person ever to make a triple double with 5 different clubs - that's pure journeyman
Anyway, how the hell do Phoenix keep beating Milwaukee? Lol
hey RD, talk about kicking a man when he's down … ;)
Phoenix have really sucked this year, all I have is the last few wins (5 of last 7) and next year to look forward too … Suns will suck until Sarver sells the team, his handprints all over the dysfunction … :(
on LA, the 'kids' all realise they're just placeholders until the FAs come in the next few seasons as they will be traded for them … I feel this is when they became 'funky' (Rex Chapman used this on 'the Jump'?? I think) after the failed AD trades on top of LeBron's injury …
where's valk? not crowing about Kings?? I would be if I were in his position ;)
Phoenix won ANOTHER game!
"We going to Sizzler!"
;)
LeChoke take enough shots in the last quarter haha
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LeChoke take enough shots in the last quarter haha
Top 4 pick odds went from 9.4% to 13.9%
few more and we are looking at 20%+
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LeChoke take enough shots in the last quarter haha
Top 4 pick odds went from 9.4% to 13.9%
few more and we are looking at 20%+
We? You said we about the Sixers the other week
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LeChoke take enough shots in the last quarter haha
Top 4 pick odds went from 9.4% to 13.9%
few more and we are looking at 20%+
We? You said we about the Sixers the other week
Thats we in the general sense for example
we are looking at Giannis winning the MVP.
on that how good was Philly v Bucks
JoJO and Giannis went beserk
lazy 92 31 13 from those 2 combined.
(https://www.nbcsports.com/philadelphia/sites/csnphilly/files/2017/01/16/giannis-slid.jpg)
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LeChoke take enough shots in the last quarter haha
Top 4 pick odds went from 9.4% to 13.9%
few more and we are looking at 20%+
We? You said we about the Sixers the other week
Thats we in the general sense for example
we are looking at Giannis winning the MVP.
on that how good was Philly v Bucks
JoJO and Giannis went beserk
lazy 92 31 13 from those 2 combined.
(https://www.nbcsports.com/philadelphia/sites/csnphilly/files/2017/01/16/giannis-slid.jpg)
just checked out highlights for this game! :o
how has Giannis developed over the years!!! :o
taken at 14?
how much is Milwaukee's salary cap over?? Giannis, B Lopez, Bledsoe, Mirotic, Middleton, Ilaysova etc, etc, etc!!!
Lebron ain't coming to Melbourne in August - will be filming Space Jam
Hope this doesn't cause a flow on effect and more stars decide to pass - that would be brutal for those who have already bought tickets - could end up seeing a bunch of NBA bench players head out :-X
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Lebron ain't coming to Melbourne in August - will be filming Space Jam
Hope this doesn't cause a flow on effect and more stars decide to pass - that would be brutal for those who have already bought tickets - could end up seeing a bunch of NBA bench players head out :-X
I bought tickets and am very worried...
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Lebron ain't coming to Melbourne in August - will be filming Space Jam
Hope this doesn't cause a flow on effect and more stars decide to pass - that would be brutal for those who have already bought tickets - could end up seeing a bunch of NBA bench players head out :-X
I bought tickets and am very worried...
Lebron was never going to play in the FIBA World Champs anyway, I'd suspect most of the guys will play in Melbourne on the way to China. Was so tempted to go to China, but life has gotten in the way. Only $210 to see every Boomers game!
Now that Zion is finished and the Final Four only includes 2 lottery picks I can bang on about how bad this draft really is. Darius Garland barely plays and rockets up mock draft due to how bad these freshman were. Give me those top 3 Zion, Morant and RJ. Now in a normal draft the next 11 are all pick 10 onwards, except this year is just as bad as 2015 if not worse and a couple of these guys have to go top 5.
The next group are split within 4 different groups. Hunter, Culver, Hachimura all showed lots at college and have the work behind them. the next group has Reddish, Little and Hayes. Those 3 all have to go to the NBA imo, Hayes and Reddish probably end up on the G-League grind. Coby White and Romeo Langford are in a group of their own, both have major floors in their game but would still take above the Hayes, Little and Reddish combo. The last group is Garland and Bol Bol. Neither played against top end talent both getting hurt early in the season, Bol Bol would be with the Zion, Morant and RJ group except he is more injury prone than Michael Porter was. While Garland was likely to end up in the White and Langford group. I'll add Keldon Johnson onto the end of this just because he is the next best freshman by a long way imo
Once these 14 go I'd just be picking juniors or seniors for the rest of the picks or trade them. Because these freshman would all do another year at college in a normal year or get drafted and just play G-League because the depth in this draft is absolutely terrible
Boomers vs Canada in Perth has been announced, 16th and 17th August.
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Boomers vs Canada in Perth has been announced, 16th and 17th August.
Saw that, any idea what players likely to play for Canada? Assume it will be very different to the Commonwealth Games one they had
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Boomers vs Canada in Perth has been announced, 16th and 17th August.
Saw that, any idea what players likely to play for Canada? Assume it will be very different to the Commonwealth Games one they had
I'd assume a few NBA players, who are the best? Wiggins, Olynyk, Joseph, Murray, Gilgeous, TT?
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Boomers vs Canada in Perth has been announced, 16th and 17th August.
Saw that, any idea what players likely to play for Canada? Assume it will be very different to the Commonwealth Games one they had
I'd assume a few NBA players, who are the best? Wiggins, Olynyk, Joseph, Murray, Gilgeous, TT?
flower me, bronze level Wildcats tickets are being classed as "gold" and $170. :o
Magic stepped down as Lakers President
Keep or fire Walton?
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Magic stepped down as Lakers President
Whoah what? Wonder who the pressure came from, Buss or LeBron?
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Magic stepped down as Lakers President
Whoah what? Wonder who the pressure came from, Buss or LeBron?
https://www.news.com.au/sport/american-sports/nba/lakers-legend-magic-johnson-steps-down/news-story/ad9b19c10cacf685fe592d8b8883755e
I'd probably get rid of Walton. He hasn't looked like a good adjustments coach and his lineups are baffling. I also read that Kyrie is open to a meeting with the Lakers. An Irving/Ball back court would be phenomenal but I'm not getting my hopes up too much.
Lebron new head coach and president of basketball operations.
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Lebron new head coach and president of basketball operations.
Was thinking the exact same thing haha
Magic didn't even tell Jeanie - just called a few reporters and dropped it lol
If you've got ESPN and collected basketball cards at some stage there is a special on tonight called Cardboard Addicts about Aussie bball card collectors.
How’s the ESPN decision to have Magic and Hornets on over Bulls and 76ers, Mavs and Spurs, TWolves and Nuggets, Heat and Nets
LBJ doing LBJ things... ruining teams everywhere he goes.
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LBJ doing LBJ things... ruining teams everywhere he goes.
lol, nothing to do with LBJ
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LBJ doing LBJ things... ruining teams everywhere he goes.
lol, nothing to do with LBJ
LOL i know... just funny wherever he goes teams turn to dogsh*t.
respect what he's done on the court but still think he's a cancer
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LBJ doing LBJ things... ruining teams everywhere he goes.
lol, nothing to do with LBJ
Not 100% true, if Lebron never goes to LA, is it in this much of a shambles?
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How’s the ESPN decision to have Magic and Hornets on over Bulls and 76ers, Mavs and Spurs, TWolves and Nuggets, Heat and Nets
It's probably the game (along with Heat and Nets) that will change playoff seeding with the Hornets fighting for the 8 seed and the Magic fighting for the 6 seed.
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How’s the ESPN decision to have Magic and Hornets on over Bulls and 76ers, Mavs and Spurs, TWolves and Nuggets, Heat and Nets
It's probably the game (along with Heat and Nets) that will change playoff seeding with the Hornets fighting for the 8 seed and the Magic fighting for the 6 seed.
That'd be exactly why
Probably a little surprising even so, because we seem to almost always get Sixers (due to Simmons of course)
Can't wait for Playoffs - reckon we're going to have some epic series coming up
Shall we all make a few bold predictions and see how go?
Sixers can't move. They will likely rest 2 of Embiid, Simmons, Redick and Butler at the minimum. They gave JJ and JoJo the night off against Miami. I think Ben and Jimmy get the rest in this one. Harris probably plays limited minutes as well.
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LBJ doing LBJ things... ruining teams everywhere he goes.
lol, nothing to do with LBJ
Not 100% true, if Lebron never goes to LA, is it in this much of a shambles?
It would be arguably more of a shambles. Magic said 1 star this year, 1 star next year who would he have got if it wasnt Lebron?
Lonzo Ball cant stay out on the court (Magic's Pick) they could have tatum.
mistake 2 was not trading for PG and not going harder for him in FA
Ingram now is struggling with blood clots
giving up Lopez Zubac and Randle = all look big mistakes
The handling of AD was an overreaction to underacting on PG
You could say the only time the Lakers showed anything was before Lebron got injured, everything else was a mess.
I can say this with confidence, id feel better as a Lakers fan going all in on Lebron rather then relying on a injury prone PG, a inconsistent talent in ingram who has a health issue and then kuzma who is good but no star.
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LBJ doing LBJ things... ruining teams everywhere he goes.
lol, nothing to do with LBJ
Not 100% true, if Lebron never goes to LA, is it in this much of a shambles?
It would be arguably more of a shambles. Magic said 1 star this year, 1 star next year who would he have got if it wasnt Lebron?
Lonzo Ball cant stay out on the court (Magic's Pick) they could have tatum.
mistake 2 was not trading for PG and not going harder for him in FA
Ingram now is struggling with blood clots
giving up Lopez Zubac and Randle = all look big mistakes
The handling of AD was an overreaction to underacting on PG
You could say the only time the Lakers showed anything was before Lebron got injured, everything else was a mess.
I can say this with confidence, id feel better as a Lakers fan going all in on Lebron rather then relying on a injury prone PG, a inconsistent talent in ingram who has a health issue and then kuzma who is good but no star.
But you'll never know... ;D
Who has the tiebreaker in the East. Does someone want to post the combination of different results for me? Haha
Quote from: R.Griffen on April 11, 2019, 10:31:34 AM
Who has the tiebreaker in the East. Does someone want to post the combination of different results for me? Haha
Not really...games be over in a few hours so you'll have your answers (and I don't know the answer). :P
East is set
Bucks v Pistons
Raptors v Magic
Sixers v Nets
Celtics v Pacers
I'm really hoping Nuggets slip to 3rd and Rockets jump to 2nd, because I reckon OKC will beat Denver if that happens, and I'd like to see OKC avoid Rockets 1st round
What the hell were Portland doing today? Only played 6 players and looked like they wanted to lose this so they didn't have to face OKC in the first round, then they go and take it to OT and win the game putting them into 3rd spot to play OKC instead of the Jazz. :o
RD you got your wish though, no Rox vs OKC matchup in the first round!
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What the hell were Portland doing today? Only played 6 players and looked like they wanted to lose this so they didn't have to face OKC in the first round, then they go and take it to OT and win the game putting them into 3rd spot to play OKC instead of the Jazz. :o
RD you got your wish though, no Rox vs OKC matchup in the first round!
I know!
I really like both OKC and Rockets so want to see them go deeper so that worked out well
I was hoping OKC would face Nuggets because I honestly think they would have rolled them, but Portland will be a good matchup
Rockets Jazz should be good too
Can't wait for this to all get underway
Anyone think an upset is on the cards in the first round?
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/D32Xh0sW0AAUwQb.jpg:large)
Spurs could beat Denver. Pacers and Nets aren't going to let Celts and 76ers through easily. Hopefully Clips bang the hell out of the Warriors.
In fact I might look at the odds of Spurs to knock out Denver.
Geez OKC lucky, they might make the WCF now.
pretty sure Rockets and Jazz would swap their spots for OKC
Spurs and nugs are 2-2 this season.
Nugs woulda wanted okc - they are 4-0
Posted in on the betting thread but got OKC over Blazers for the series at $1.90, has already come into $1.77.
I've created a bracket competition, join here: https://sportingnews.com/au/nba/playoffschallenge/#league/standings/7925?code=UAJE3T3N
Hahahaha 76ers, if they didn’t have Aussie’s on the team it would be my most hated team. Only 3 starters get assist, they shoot 12% from 3. Why because Simmons doesn’t space the floor and when he isn’t even the assist leader he might as well not be on the court
Didn't even take 24 hours for Walton to get hired
Sixers are struggling bad
Magic with the win was exciting too
Watching Spurs Nugs now - Spurs looking good
Don't expect Nugs to go far this series, even though they finished 2nd in the West
Watched the Warriors Clips game too - expecting a sweep
so my Spurs got a win away from home.
we can definitely work on that.
#SpursNation
Simmons boo’ed, same goes for Maker. Both overrated who would have thought
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Simmons boo’ed, same goes for Maker. Both overrated who would have thought
2nd year player and its game 1
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Simmons boo’ed, same goes for Maker. Both overrated who would have thought
2nd year player and its game 1
Still made the same amount of 3s as me in the NBA. My main issue is actually with Brett Brown and just roster in general. Unless he’s got the ball and driving to make shots for others he’s absolutely useless on the floor. Why he was kept out there idk but the crowd was obviously gonna turn on him
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Simmons boo’ed, same goes for Maker. Both overrated who would have thought
2nd year player and its game 1
Still made the same amount of 3s as me in the NBA. My main issue is actually with Brett Brown and just roster in general. Unless he’s got the ball and driving to make shots for others he’s absolutely useless on the floor. Why he was kept out there idk but the crowd was obviously gonna turn on him
They'll bounce back, why don't we talk about Kyle Lowry instead? Guy is non-existent in play-offs, absolutely invisible. If he keeps this up then Kawhi is gone for sure.
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Simmons boo’ed, same goes for Maker. Both overrated who would have thought
2nd year player and its game 1
Still made the same amount of 3s as me in the NBA. My main issue is actually with Brett Brown and just roster in general. Unless he’s got the ball and driving to make shots for others he’s absolutely useless on the floor. Why he was kept out there idk but the crowd was obviously gonna turn on him
yeah i dont like Brett Brown either.
when Simmons goes inside he clogs the paint and forces Embiid out. They need to just keep him as a play maker, drive and dish
he is looking good soo far.
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Simmons boo’ed, same goes for Maker. Both overrated who would have thought
2nd year player and its game 1
Still made the same amount of 3s as me in the NBA. My main issue is actually with Brett Brown and just roster in general. Unless he’s got the ball and driving to make shots for others he’s absolutely useless on the floor. Why he was kept out there idk but the crowd was obviously gonna turn on him
yeah i dont like Brett Brown either.
when Simmons goes inside he clogs the paint and forces Embiid out. They need to just keep him as a play maker, drive and dish
he is looking good soo far.
THIS IS WHAT HAPPENS WHEN THEY GIVE HIM THE BALL!!!
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Simmons boo’ed, same goes for Maker. Both overrated who would have thought
2nd year player and its game 1
Still made the same amount of 3s as me in the NBA. My main issue is actually with Brett Brown and just roster in general. Unless he’s got the ball and driving to make shots for others he’s absolutely useless on the floor. Why he was kept out there idk but the crowd was obviously gonna turn on him
yeah i dont like Brett Brown either.
when Simmons goes inside he clogs the paint and forces Embiid out. They need to just keep him as a play maker, drive and dish
he is looking good soo far.
THIS IS WHAT HAPPENS WHEN THEY GIVE HIM THE BALL!!!
The philly and Simmons doubters have gone a little quiet. That 3rd quarter was amazing.
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Simmons boo’ed, same goes for Maker. Both overrated who would have thought
2nd year player and its game 1
Still made the same amount of 3s as me in the NBA. My main issue is actually with Brett Brown and just roster in general. Unless he’s got the ball and driving to make shots for others he’s absolutely useless on the floor. Why he was kept out there idk but the crowd was obviously gonna turn on him
yeah i dont like Brett Brown either.
when Simmons goes inside he clogs the paint and forces Embiid out. They need to just keep him as a play maker, drive and dish
he is looking good soo far.
THIS IS WHAT HAPPENS WHEN THEY GIVE HIM THE BALL!!!
The philly and Simmons doubters have gone a little quiet. That 3rd quarter was amazing.
No joke, who would have thought playing through a pass first point forward would be better than iso ball through Butler. Shot making still a slight issue. But Brett Brown went back to basics and let Simmons run the floor
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Simmons boo’ed, same goes for Maker. Both overrated who would have thought
2nd year player and its game 1
Still made the same amount of 3s as me in the NBA. My main issue is actually with Brett Brown and just roster in general. Unless he’s got the ball and driving to make shots for others he’s absolutely useless on the floor. Why he was kept out there idk but the crowd was obviously gonna turn on him
They'll bounce back, why don't we talk about Kyle Lowry instead? Guy is non-existent in play-offs, absolutely invisible. If he keeps this up then Kawhi is gone for sure.
It's weird, his shooting and scoring 0 points is inexcusable, but we were still a far better team when he was on the floor even though he was a brick merchant.
Only starter with a + net rating at +11, and we were a -14 in the 14 minutes he sat, this has been the pattern every single year since 13-14 for the Raptors in the playoffs, whether Lowry's shooting is down or not, they are still a significantly better team when he's out there. In the 5 minutes that Van Vleet played instead of Lowry with the starters, Toronto were a -16.
This sums it up well: https://www.raptorshq.com/2019/4/15/18309763/2019-nba-playoffs-toronto-raptors-orlando-magic-game-1-analysis
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Simmons boo’ed, same goes for Maker. Both overrated who would have thought
2nd year player and its game 1
Still made the same amount of 3s as me in the NBA. My main issue is actually with Brett Brown and just roster in general. Unless he’s got the ball and driving to make shots for others he’s absolutely useless on the floor. Why he was kept out there idk but the crowd was obviously gonna turn on him
They'll bounce back, why don't we talk about Kyle Lowry instead? Guy is non-existent in play-offs, absolutely invisible. If he keeps this up then Kawhi is gone for sure.
It's weird, his shooting and scoring 0 points is inexcusable, but we were still a far better team when he was on the floor even though he was a brick merchant.
Only starter with a + net rating at +11, and we were a -14 in the 14 minutes he sat, this has been the pattern every single year since 13-14 for the Raptors in the playoffs, whether Lowry's shooting is down or not, they are still a significantly better team when he's out there. In the 5 minutes that Van Vleet played instead of Lowry with the starters, Toronto were a -16.
This sums it up well: https://www.raptorshq.com/2019/4/15/18309763/2019-nba-playoffs-toronto-raptors-orlando-magic-game-1-analysis
Interesting article, but still doesn't show how they solve it, Raptors are better with Lowry on the court, but he still can't put in game winning performances as the second star on the team. Catch 22.
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Simmons boo’ed, same goes for Maker. Both overrated who would have thought
2nd year player and its game 1
Still made the same amount of 3s as me in the NBA. My main issue is actually with Brett Brown and just roster in general. Unless he’s got the ball and driving to make shots for others he’s absolutely useless on the floor. Why he was kept out there idk but the crowd was obviously gonna turn on him
They'll bounce back, why don't we talk about Kyle Lowry instead? Guy is non-existent in play-offs, absolutely invisible. If he keeps this up then Kawhi is gone for sure.
It's weird, his shooting and scoring 0 points is inexcusable, but we were still a far better team when he was on the floor even though he was a brick merchant.
Only starter with a + net rating at +11, and we were a -14 in the 14 minutes he sat, this has been the pattern every single year since 13-14 for the Raptors in the playoffs, whether Lowry's shooting is down or not, they are still a significantly better team when he's out there. In the 5 minutes that Van Vleet played instead of Lowry with the starters, Toronto were a -16.
This sums it up well: https://www.raptorshq.com/2019/4/15/18309763/2019-nba-playoffs-toronto-raptors-orlando-magic-game-1-analysis
Interesting article, but still doesn't show how they solve it, Raptors are better with Lowry on the court, but he still can't put in game winning performances as the second star on the team. Catch 22.
Oh for sure, definitely an issue. Would argue Siakam is more the second star on the team now though.
Wow, Clips flowering won!?!? :o
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Wow, Clips flowering won!?!? :o
insanity, it was looking like a blow out.
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Wow, Clips flowering won!?!? :o
insanity, it was looking like a blow out.
31 pts down, biggest comeback in NBA playoff history. Huge! Wonder what Clips were paying when they were 31pts down? :o
And Cousins likely done for the season
What the actual flower
LOL that's crazy
Beverly is getting into KD's head too
How the actual flower did they lose that?
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And Cousins likely done for the season
Safe to say they don't need him though.
Lowry turned up today.
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Lowry turned up today.
seems to turn up when he really was needed.
They probably would have won both games if Game 2 and Game 1 Lowry switched places.
As I expected, Nugs just look meh and their 2nd place finish in the West isn't a reflection of where they stand in the comp
Spurs looking good to go 2-0 and possibly sweep them at home
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As I expected, Nugs just look meh and their 2nd place finish in the West isn't a reflection of where they stand in the comp
Spurs looking good to go 2-0 and possibly sweep them at home
If Denver lose here it will be a choke of the greatest magnitude!
- Massive home advantage but blowing both home games
- Have Jokic who's been an MVP candidate
- Playing arguably the worst Spurs roster in 20 years
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As I expected, Nugs just look meh and their 2nd place finish in the West isn't a reflection of where they stand in the comp
Spurs looking good to go 2-0 and possibly sweep them at home
If Denver lose here it will be a choke of the greatest magnitude!
- Massive home advantage but blowing both home games
- Have Jokic who's been an MVP candidate
- Playing arguably the worst Spurs roster in 20 years
I'll claim this post got them going if they win now. :P
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Lowry turned up today.
seems to turn up when he really was needed.
They probably would have won both games if Game 2 and Game 1 Lowry switched places.
Great game, how about Kawhi doe, love this man
Wow, Murray got them out of a jam
Was 8 from 8 for 21 points in the last qtr (missed last shot)
Huge - Spurs let that slip
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As I expected, Nugs just look meh and their 2nd place finish in the West isn't a reflection of where they stand in the comp
Spurs looking good to go 2-0 and possibly sweep them at home
If Denver lose here it will be a choke of the greatest magnitude!
- Massive home advantage but blowing both home games
- Have Jokic who's been an MVP candidate
- Playing arguably the worst Spurs roster in 20 years
I'll claim this post got them going if they win now. :P
Claimed! ;D
Da flower happened to OKC?!?
Quote from: jvalles69 on April 17, 2019, 04:19:44 PM
Da flower happened to OKC?!?
Seems to be a common theme already in just the early stages of the Playoffs - teams just throwing away leads and being run down. NFI what is going on
my spurs... wtf... you had a 2 game lead in your hands and you blew it
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oh well, onto game 3... #SpursNation
Rockets have way too much firepower for Jazz
Capella is on fire too. Blocking and rebounding everything!
Ayo Dosunmu didn’t declare for the draft, that’s just as big as the Miles Bridges move after his freshman year. This draft just keeps getting worse by the minute
Simmons was huge this morning
KD putting on a clinic atm too
So NBA playoff ratings are down 26%!!! And I was wondering why, I watch little to no NBA and decided to checkout the replay of Harden vs Jazz today. Harden gets called for 1 travel, saw 6 of them in the first 3 quarters (doesn’t bother me, the travel calls going missed) but my god 4 shocking offensive foul calls all missed against Harden plus a bunch of 50/50 ones (I had him fouled out just before three quarter time). Any chance the league will be cleaned up or we just heading towards first to 150?
DAME flowerING LILLARD OH MY GOD
Lillard is so damn good - one of my favourite players in the league
That was an absolute monster 3, and the ultimate way to knock out OKC
How OKC lost that though...
Insane, gonna have to fire up a replay of the final few minutes.
Utah had several chances in the final minutes but continually stuffed it up
Clippers going toe to toe so far - been a high scoring affair
On a side note, Lou Williams will no doubt be named Best 6th for the 3rd time in his career. How he is not a starter already? I know he's a specialist at it now, but he's so much better than several starters so just start him already
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On a side note, Lou Williams will no doubt be named Best 6th for the 3rd time in his career. How he is not a starter already? I know he's a specialist at it now, but he's so much better than several starters so just start him already
I don't think he even wants to start. He comes in when the other team's first unit is a little tired and eradicates leads to give his team the momentum (or extends leads if they're already up). It's a role he's good at and I don't think he should change tbh.
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On a side note, Lou Williams will no doubt be named Best 6th for the 3rd time in his career. How he is not a starter already? I know he's a specialist at it now, but he's so much better than several starters so just start him already
I don't think he even wants to start. He comes in when the other team's first unit is a little tired and eradicates leads to give his team the momentum (or extends leads if they're already up). It's a role he's good at and I don't think he should change tbh.
Him and Jamal Crawford are the two best at it, streetballers who can come as elite offensive players.
I'm legit hyped for Game 6 today
Would love to see LAC get up and force GSW to game 7
2 hours of pregame shows too - love how it ties in with Footy - Basketball all morning/lunchtime into AFL all day night/night 8)
Just the 38 points for KD in the first half :o
Tipped both upsets today, got 1 right.
When's Al Horford going to get some love? The guy has locked up Giannis and Embiid over the last two playoffs.
I expect Milwaukee to make some adjustments and level the series tomorrow but its danger signs if their only form of offense is just Giannis trying to overpower Horford and Baynes at the rim.
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When's Al Horford going to get some love? The guy has locked up Giannis and Embiid over the last two playoffs.
I expect Milwaukee to make some adjustments and level the series tomorrow but its danger signs if their only form of offense is just Giannis trying to overpower Horford and Baynes at the rim.
But he's scared of the ball! ;D ;)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AmZhQgTVhw8
Big game by Jimmy Buckets
Huge win for Sixers
Quote from: Jay on April 30, 2019, 11:08:58 AM
When's Al Horford going to get some love? The guy has locked up Giannis and Embiid Simmons over the last two playoffs.
I expect Milwaukee to make some adjustments and level the series tomorrow but its danger signs if their only form of offense is just Giannis trying to overpower Horford and Baynes at the rim.
Holding on for dear life when Embiid is near him doesn't count
Game 2 player scoring in Nugs vs Blazers is just.... weird
CJ highest scoring player on the court with just 20 points and Jokic was the highest scorer for Denver with just 16 :o
Simmons is a lucky man
Quote from: R.Griffen on May 03, 2019, 12:33:32 PM
Simmons is a lucky man
I know right
JoJo inside with Butler, JJ and Tobias to kick it out too.
if this team can stick together and stay healthy they could be the new GS (big call)
Embiid could possibly be my favourite person in the league right now
He's got a great sense of humour, love watching him out there as he cracks me up and when he's on like he was today he's so good to watch
He took a tech foul shot in the last and when he sunk it he walked forward and gave the low fives like they always do but because it was a tech there was nobody standing there so he just low fived to nobody lol cracked me up ;D
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Quote from: R.Griffen on May 03, 2019, 12:33:32 PM
Simmons is a lucky man
I know right
JoJo inside with Butler, JJ and Tobias to kick it out too.
if this team can stick together and stay healthy they could be the new GS (big call)
He might have been talking about the elbow to Lowry's groin that went unpunished?
https://streamable.com/swmfz
Joel 'The Process' Embiid
Monty Williams just signed with Phoenix for 5 years
Looking like Ty Lue and Lebron are going to be reuniting too - Lakers tipped to sign on Lue as new head coach
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Monty Williams just signed with Phoenix for 5 years
Looking like Ty Lue and Lebron are going to be reuniting too - Lakers tipped to sign on Lue as new head coach
as a long-suffering Suns fan, i'm not quite sure how to take this …
do we think GSW still faves for the title??
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do we think GSW still faves for the title??
Should take out the West
Rockets won game 3, but Klay and especially Steph were well below their usual selves (Steph misses were super rare, had a mare) and it still had to go to OT, so I expect GSW to win this series, and the winner of Port/Den has no real chance of beating them IMO
East is a lot more interesting at this stage I think. Can make a case for any of the 4 teams left beating the other/s, and pushing GSW
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Quote from: j959 on May 06, 2019, 11:42:10 PM
do we think GSW still faves for the title??
Should take out the West
Rockets won game 3, but Klay and especially Steph were well below their usual selves (Steph misses were super rare, had a mare) and it still had to go to OT, so I expect GSW to win this series, and the winner of Port/Den has no real chance of beating them IMO
East is a lot more interesting at this stage I think. Can make a case for any of the 4 teams left beating the other/s, and pushing GSW
Uh...Stef hasn't shown up for this series, nor has he ever really shown up for a final series...
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Quote from: RaisyDaisy on May 04, 2019, 09:22:38 AM
Monty Williams just signed with Phoenix for 5 years
Looking like Ty Lue and Lebron are going to be reuniting too - Lakers tipped to sign on Lue as new head coach
as a long-suffering Suns fan, i'm not quite sure how to take this …
I think Monty's a great coach and I'm a bit annoyed you guys got him :(
While the Bucks playing like this is an extremely scary prospect for whoever meets them in the ECF, hopefully the Raps, I love seeing the Celtics get beat down like that, beautiful.
Quote from: TomK on May 07, 2019, 12:46:15 PM
While the Bucks playing like this is an extremely scary prospect for whoever meets them in the ECF, hopefully the Raps, I love seeing the Celtics get beat down like that, beautiful.
The Celtics bench is genuinely crap. Sad that Hayward never recovered properly but kinda not that sad because flower the Celtics.
Horrible first half by the Sixers
Jimmy needs help
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on May 08, 2019, 12:29:00 PM
Horrible first half by the Sixers
Jimmy needs help
Tobias has been ok.
JJ just done nothing and JoHo is clearly not healthy. They probably should just sit JoJo, i dont think he should have even played.
I'm not watching so can only see the stats but Jimmy's shooting 5-14 right now which is piss poor. I wouldn't say he needs help so much as the Big 4 are all crap today.
Quote from: LaHug on May 08, 2019, 01:05:03 PM
I'm not watching so can only see the stats but Jimmy's shooting 5-14 right now which is piss poor. I wouldn't say he needs help so much as the Big 4 are all crap today.
He was their only player in the first half who was actually going well - I'm sure his stats were better than that earlier
They're getting smashed now, they've all been poor
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Quote from: TomK on May 07, 2019, 12:46:15 PM
While the Bucks playing like this is an extremely scary prospect for whoever meets them in the ECF, hopefully the Raps, I love seeing the Celtics get beat down like that, beautiful.
The Celtics bench is genuinely crap. Sad that Hayward never recovered properly but kinda not that sad because flower the Celtics.
A big what-if is Hayward never going down with that gruesome ankle injury - it probably isn't talked enough when it comes to what has plagued the Celtics this year. Kyrie is never going to be the standout guy on a championship team, Hayward was the perfect 1B and the reason we gave him a max deal. Unfortunately we haven't been able to see 16-17 Hayward, who would have been beautiful in Stevens' system.
At this point, I'm happy for Kyrie to walk this off-season if we can't land AD. Seems to do more harm than good.
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Quote from: TomK on May 07, 2019, 12:46:15 PM
While the Bucks playing like this is an extremely scary prospect for whoever meets them in the ECF, hopefully the Raps, I love seeing the Celtics get beat down like that, beautiful.
The Celtics bench is genuinely crap. Sad that Hayward never recovered properly but kinda not that sad because flower the Celtics.
A big what-if is Hayward never going down with that gruesome ankle injury - it probably isn't talked enough when it comes to what has plagued the Celtics this year. Kyrie is never going to be the standout guy on a championship team, Hayward was the perfect 1B and the reason we gave him a max deal. Unfortunately we haven't been able to see 16-17 Hayward, who would have been beautiful in Stevens' system.
At this point, I'm happy for Kyrie to walk this off-season if we can't land AD. Seems to do more harm than good.
I was watching "First Take" last night on ESPN and they actually discussed this too - the whole Hayward saga, Kyrie etc and they basically echoed what you've just said
As for Kyrie, I would think he probably leaves, but I don't think you'll land KD either so not sure what Boston does but will be interested to see how it all plays out
Just saw, bookies have Kyrie landing in NY
Nets favs, then Knicks, then staying at Boston was third
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Just saw, bookies have Kyrie landing in NY
Nets favs, then Knicks, then staying at Boston was third
Curious as to why they have Nets above Knicks. I was under the impression he'd want to pair up with a star again after this debacle and KD + Kyrie to NYK is a real possibility.
NBA announced combine list. Most notable names missing (Rui Hachimura) he declined the invite likely a top 5 pick and will play for Japan in the World Cup. Ethan Happ the next one, finished college with 2130 points, 1217 rebounds, 423 assist. I assume no invite due to his range being 15 foot max from the hoop. Last one is Tyus Battle was late first rounder on mocks last year he decided to return and did next to nothing to help his stock. Under new rules it wouldn’t surprise me if he kept his name in the draft though
So the NBA Combine isn’t a joke under the new rules that are finally in place
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Just saw, bookies have Kyrie landing in NY
Nets favs, then Knicks, then staying at Boston was third
Curious as to why they have Nets above Knicks. I was under the impression he'd want to pair up with a star again after this debacle and KD + Kyrie to NYK is a real possibility.
Yeah I was a little surprised too
Perhaps it's because Kyrie only ends up at NY if KD does too? Kyrie needs to be a #2, and Nets have plenty of cash to land someone too now right?
This could be one of the biggest trade periods in NBA history coming up
I still think there's a chance KD stays at GSW, although I'm expecting him to move on - the NY media could be a turn off for him too potentially
Kyrie, KD, Klay, AD, Kawhi etc - a lot of the best top tier guys could all be moving and really shake things up
My gut right now says Kawhi stays if they make the Finals, Klay stays no matter what, the other three leave no matter what.
Quote from: LaHug on May 09, 2019, 12:03:12 PM
My gut right now says Kawhi stays if they make the Finals, Klay stays no matter what, the other three leave no matter what.
Yeah I can't see Klay leaving - he's not looking to be "the man", he just wants to win
Celtics are struggling now - Bucks right on top
Klay to Philly and we let Harris walk...
I Simmons trade is also on the horizon. Brand already tried it before the owners vetoed. A piss poor playoffs could change their mind
Klay has responded well
Curry still MIA - hasn't made a shot yet half way into the 2nd
Warriors were up by 16, but Rocket have dragged it back to just 3 points - game on
LOL, as soon as I post that GSW goes on a 17-0 run ;D
KD might have done his achilles :o
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KD might have done his achilles :o
Calf strain - won't be back for this game - time for Steph to step up - this one should go to the wire now
Rockets in 7
Hah, nothing wrong with talking about a big game in action :P
Finally the Kyrie nightmare is over. Good luck New York :)
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on May 09, 2019, 04:35:42 PM
Hah, nothing wrong with talking about a big game in action :P
I have to wait until after work to watch so this thread actually ruins it for me if I'm not careful...
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Quote from: RaisyDaisy on May 09, 2019, 04:35:42 PM
Hah, nothing wrong with talking about a big game in action :P
I have to wait until after work to watch so this thread actually ruins it for me if I'm not careful...
Sorry mate, will keep the live comments generic/limited then
Ty Lue has turned down Lakers job
Kyrie getting hammered in the media atm
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Hah, nothing wrong with talking about a big game in action :P
I have to wait until after work to watch so this thread actually ruins it for me if I'm not careful...
Sorry mate, will keep the live comments generic/limited then
Ty Lue has turned down Lakers job
Kyrie getting hammered in the media atm
Nah all good. It's on me to remember not to check this thread once the game has started until I've watched it.
Bit worried about what's going on with the Lakers organisation... Jeanie is running it into the ground. Doctor Buss dying was the worst thing to happen to this team.
Stephen A going absolutely nuts on the Lakers right now on TV - I love this guy
He reckons LeBron was talking with Kawhi but now that they stuffed things up with Lue by only offering him 3 years and not 5 that's probably not happening now
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Stephen A going absolutely nuts on the Lakers right now on TV - I love this guy
He reckons LeBron was talking with Kawhi but now that they stuffed things up with Lue by only offering him 3 years and not 5 that's probably not happening now
If Lue was the difference between getting Kawhi and missing on Kawhi, LeBron would've called Jeanie and got Lue 5 years.
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Stephen A going absolutely nuts on the Lakers right now on TV - I love this guy
He reckons LeBron was talking with Kawhi but now that they stuffed things up with Lue by only offering him 3 years and not 5 that's probably not happening now
If Lue was the difference between getting Kawhi and missing on Kawhi, LeBron would've called Jeanie and got Lue 5 years.
Yeah for sure - to be fair he said it was just something he had heard and might have even referred to it as scuttlebutt
Line-Up
Although the line-up hasn’t been released yet, here’s a predicted list of players for both teams:
Boomers
Patty Mills
Ben Simmons
Andrew Bogut
Dante Exum
Matthew Dellavedova
Mitch Creek
Ryan Broekhoff
Aron Baynes
Chris Goulding
Joe Ingles
Thon Maker
Jonah Bolden
USA
Anthony Davis
Stephen Curry
DeMarcus Cousins
Kevin Durant
James Harden
Kyrie Irving
Tobias Harris
Kyle Lowry
Chris Paul
Isaiah Thomas
John Wall
Klay Thompson
Thoughts on those predictions? If it is in fact that good then it will be a great event to be at, but do we think that many A graders will be coming?
If I had to guess...
Simmons maybe won't play for Aus but the rest look likely. Cousins (inj), CP3 (Spacejam or old age), and probably at least one more of that team USA list will miss. But I'd be confident in Steph, KD, Harden assuming they're not injured and that's pretty awesome on its own :D
Wall is injured and could potentially miss all of next season too, not sure why he'd be on the list
I want to see them play Cameroon.
I'm actually watching a game live for once.
I'm liking the way the refs are actually calling fouls. Might prevent moving screens going forward.
Rockets at home, no KD and Curry goes scoreless for the entire first half, and Rockets still lose
How the game was even tied at half time with Curry not even scoring was bad enough, but the Rockets have choked hard
Huge props to GSW
Yeah, I said to a mate at half time that there's no way Rockets win from there. What a waste.
Houston's owners made some strong comments post-game saying how committed he is to this team and will do whatever it takes to go further and bring a title to Houston. Could probably have started by going into the luxury tax to re-sign Ariza, and not dodging the luxury tax by attaching a 2nd round pick just to dump James Ennis. Both would have been contributors in this series.
The last game and a quarter just proves that KD has earned nothing the last two seasons as this team is still ridiculously stacked without him. Should have come to Boston, or any team that hadn't won 73 games for that matter if he wanted to prove he could lead a team to a championship.
Also, CP3 is still the Point God. What a game by him today.
Former Magic and Pacers coach Frank Vogel has agreed to become the new head coach of the Los Angeles Lakers, according to ESPN's Adrian Wojnarowski.
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on May 12, 2019, 12:41:22 PM
Former Magic and Pacers coach Frank Vogel has agreed to become the new head coach of the Los Angeles Lakers, according to ESPN's Adrian Wojnarowski.
With J-Kidd as his lead assistant. What could go wrong ;D
Denver did really well being pushed to game 7 in both of their series, but I'm happy Portland got through as I think they'll match up better against the Warriors
Would love to see Philly follow Portland now and pinch 7 on the road - game on in 30!
flower, what a finish :o
What a finish!
Heartbreak for Philly :'(
:o
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Not sunny today :(
KAWHIIIIIIIII LEONAAAAAAAAAARD :-* :-* :-*
What a monster performance, really stating his claim to the best 2 way player in the league with no competition. His killer instinct, offence, and defences is close to MJ level.
Giannis vs Kawhi is going to be epic, neither guy can be stopped, Giannis prob has the better more consistent help, but Lowry, Gasol, Siakam, Ibaka and Green aren't anything to sneeze at, this is the series I'm most excited for.
WCF...I just hope Dame and CJ do some damage.
I honestly felt like I was watching Kobe again with Kawhi's performance today. I was so conflicted because he's fast becoming my favourite non-Laker but them winning that game probably puts the final nail in the coffin for any slim Kawhi to Lakers chances.
Quote from: jvalles69 on May 13, 2019, 07:14:24 PM
What a monster performance, really stating his claim to the best 2 way player in the league with no competition. His killer instinct, offence, and defences is close to MJ level.
Giannis vs Kawhi is going to be epic, neither guy can be stopped, Giannis prob has the better more consistent help, but Lowry, Gasol, Siakam, Ibaka and Green aren't anything to sneeze at, this is the series I'm most excited for.
WCF...I just hope Dame and CJ do some damage.
Couldn't agree more with all of that
I think the difference with Bucks vs Toronto is that Giannis' help is a lot more consistent that Kawhi's - one night it's Siakim, the next night it's Lowry and so forth - not often they're all up and about like the Bucks generally are, so you'd think that will be the difference
Hood getting injured for Portland is a big blow as he was huge recently - not sure how long he's out for, but CJ and Dame vs Steph and Klay is a pretty enticing match up too
Reckon both finals will be crackers, and I'll be making sure I watch every single one of them live
Yeah I think the Bucks will be too strong for us, but you never know. Definitely need a more even, consistent contribution than what we had against Philly, and to just make our damn open shots, the Bucks won't be as forgiving as Philly during our slumps. If we can bring the defensive intensity that we had today in every game, then I could see it going 7. I think our bench will be much more suited this match up as well.
JOHN BEILEIN TO CAVS!!!
Brett Brown has signed on for next year
Draft Lotto tomorrow morning at 10:30am will be interesting to watch
1. Zion
2. Ja Morant
3. RJ Barrett
Then whatever
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on May 14, 2019, 11:01:13 PM
Brett Brown has signed on for next year
Draft Lotto tomorrow morning at 10:30am will be interesting to watch
1. Zion
2. Ja Morant
3. RJ Barrett
Then whatever
Not that I’d ever take RJ over Ja but depending on the lottery that could flip
A few bombs in the draft lotto!
Phoenix and Cavs got shafted
NOP and Lakers big winners so far
Top 4 about to be revealed with Knicks, Lakers, Grizzlies and Pelicans to get them
14 - Boston (From Kings)
13 - Heat
12 - Hornets
11 - Timberwolves
10 - Atlanta (From Dallas)
9 - Wizards
8 - Atlanta
7 - Bulls
6 - Suns
5 - Cavs
4 - Lakers
3 - Knicks
2 - Grizzlies
1 - Pelicans
WOW!!!!!!
4 - Lakers
3 - Knicks
2 - Grizzlies
1 - NOP
WOW!
Hahaha Valk identical!
All of a sudden the AD saga gets a lot more interesting
Surely AD still wants out... My guess is that Lakers offer something like Pick 4 and 2 of Lonzo, Ingram, Kuzma
So what happens after pick 1? Conley has a massive deal at Memphis so either him or Morant would have to play the 2. Or they go RJ, meaning Knicks can get Morant but the trade getting DSJ is now a waste and the franchise is looking worse than 12 months ago
Quote from: LaHug on May 15, 2019, 12:22:36 PM
Surely AD still wants out... My guess is that Lakers offer something like Pick 4 and 2 of Lonzo, Ingram, Kuzma
They were saying on the broadcast that NOP are still adamant they want to convince AD to stay, so landing Zion surely helps their case
That said, if he still wants to walk, NOP are going to get everything they get for him plus Zion so overall they look to be in a pretty good spot future wise
Quote from: R.Griffen on May 15, 2019, 12:28:51 PM
So what happens after pick 1? Conley has a massive deal at Memphis so either him or Morant would have to play the 2. Or they go RJ, meaning Knicks can get Morant but the trade getting DSJ is now a waste and the franchise is looking worse than 12 months ago
Pretty sure they'll grab Morant and make it work - Conley and Morant
Lots of reports saying that AD still wants out - this doesn't change a thing.
I reckon the one thing it changes is that the Pelicans should trade Jrue for a good haul of assets too (if they can get it) and grow a team together from the ground up. Imagine a young core of Lonzo, Ingram, Zion, whoever they get for Pick 4, and two more young 1st-3rd year players as Jrue trade. Would be incredible to build that core together for 3 years
Quote from: valkorum on May 15, 2019, 12:58:21 PM
Lots of reports saying that AD still wants out - this doesn't change a thing.
They still have Zion so it’s the best situation if he was gonna leave anyway
Ball, Ingram, Pick 4 (Hunter), Zion and ?
Would have to do something with Holiday Jackson, Johnson, Randle and Okafor. However the starting line up becomes 1000x better
Trade Randle back to Lakers for double the price, lol.
Lol some idiot got a tattoo of the Knicks logo with Zion on it before the lotto lol what a goose
Speaking of Zion he looked gutted - his body language was clear he wanted to head to NY and not NOP at all lol
Quote from: R.Griffen on May 15, 2019, 01:15:57 PM
Quote from: valkorum on May 15, 2019, 12:58:21 PM
Lots of reports saying that AD still wants out - this doesn't change a thing.
They still have Zion so it’s the best situation if he was gonna leave anyway
Reading reports that Zion has an option to go back to College (cos he doesn't have an agent right now).
That would be brutal for Pelicans.
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Quote from: R.Griffen on May 15, 2019, 01:15:57 PM
Quote from: valkorum on May 15, 2019, 12:58:21 PM
Lots of reports saying that AD still wants out - this doesn't change a thing.
They still have Zion so it’s the best situation if he was gonna leave anyway
Reading reports that Zion has an option to go back to College (cos he doesn't have an agent right now).
That would be brutal for Pelicans.
I don't think he'll do it because the financial risk is too high. I'm sure Nike has a big fat contract waiting for him.
Quote from: valkorum on May 16, 2019, 11:44:34 AM
Quote from: R.Griffen on May 15, 2019, 01:15:57 PM
Quote from: valkorum on May 15, 2019, 12:58:21 PM
Lots of reports saying that AD still wants out - this doesn't change a thing.
They still have Zion so it’s the best situation if he was gonna leave anyway
Reading reports that Zion has an option to go back to College (cos he doesn't have an agent right now).
That would be brutal for Pelicans.
Yeah that’s true under the new rules, no way he turns down the NBA though
If every game is going to be like this, then the Bucks Raptors series is going to be awesome
Lowry and Lopez were huge
Going to be a cracking series
Ughhhh that 4th quarter offence was disgraceful, Lowry went 5/7 in the 4th, the rest of the team went 0/15, just awful.
Quote from: TomK on May 16, 2019, 02:40:31 PM
Ughhhh that 4th quarter offence was disgraceful, Lowry went 5/7 in the 4th, the rest of the team went 0/15, just awful.
Certainly felt like it was yours to lose - lead through all the first 3 quarters, and by a comfy margin too - Bucks just ran over you in the last (Well, like you say other than Lowry everyone else failed)
I hope the Raptors win. That way I don't feel as crap about a tough shot taking 4 bounces and dropping for them to make it through
NBA Combine coverage on TV on in the morning, starts on Watch ESPN and then moves to the main channel. Actually not a farce anymore due to the new rule more players and the top end guys likely to do far more testing than in the past. Plus the G-League combine invites also seemed like a great idea (partly because we get to see the great Tacko Fall)
lol, Collins has played just 8 minutes and has 5 fouls already ;D
Jimmy Butler looks to be gone
https://www.instagram.com/p/Bxi70sbhsZe/?hl=en
Quote from: Mat0369 on May 17, 2019, 02:36:48 PM
Jimmy Butler looks to be gone
https://www.instagram.com/p/Bxi70sbhsZe/?hl=en
Shame for Philly - curious to see where he ends up next - and hopefully he can sit put there and build something
We have space for 2 max players since I don't expect them to give Harris a max deal either. A ton of wasted assets in those deals and I don't think we get a KD to sign with us either. If we can get Kemba and another a decent bench we might be alright
Haha ;D
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7bBUsXFQzBM
It's the Ilyasova show!
When will Nurse stop giving FVV minutes, he’s been completely garbage all playoffs, may as well see if JLin can offer something more.
Giannis only had 12 points in regulation and we couldn’t even win lol
Quote from: TomK on May 20, 2019, 12:49:43 PM
Giannis only had 12 points in regulation and we couldn’t even win lol
Raptors did everything they could to let Bucks pinch it
Shouldn't have even gone to OT let alone 2OT
Some weird officiating in that game. Until OT, it felt like it massively favoured the Bucks and was a key part in them staying in it. But then Giannis gets his 6th in what looked like a clear charge (doesn't matter if he was moving because the shoulder was lowered right into his chest) and all of a sudden I felt the Bucks were robbed. Weird weird game (but epic game too).
Iggy out with a calf strain
Blazers won't ever have a better chance to get a W
Home court, no KD and Iggy - surely Portland avoids the sweep at least
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on May 21, 2019, 11:21:08 AM
Iggy out with a calf strain
Blazers won't ever have a better chance to get a W
Home court, no KD and Iggy - surely Portland avoids the sweep at least
GSW still at $1.70 for the win...
Meyers Leonard started last game which was a bit of a surprise and he did very well
Has started tonight and has 25 points at the half!
His stocks are going through the roof - never scored 25 in a game, even in college lol but now has it at the half
I love seeing when the lesser likes get a chance and really maximise
Wow. Sneaky streamed at work for the last 2 minutes and OT.
I believe that's now 32-1 without KD
Remarkable side
Get your brooms out.
Save us Toronto/Milwaukee :'(
Drake is such a flog - can't stand him carrying on every single Toronto home game
Quote from: TomK on May 20, 2019, 12:06:28 PM
When will Nurse stop giving FVV minutes, he’s been completely garbage all playoffs, may as well see if JLin can offer something more.
I take it back
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Quote from: TomK on May 20, 2019, 12:06:28 PM
When will Nurse stop giving FVV minutes, he’s been completely garbage all playoffs, may as well see if JLin can offer something more.
I take it back
LOL I was thinking of this as I watched him knock back another 3 haha
Looks like these two sides might beat each other up for a while - meanwhile GSW just get refreshed and enjoy a 10 day break...
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Huggy: https://www.forbes.com/sites/gabezaldivar/2019/05/24/lakers-rumors-are-heating-up-and-you-can-thank-lebron-james/#f355947ac36f
I saw someone say they prefer the 2nd team better than the first. I gotta agree. They probably take out the 1 team in a 7 game series.
Quote from: Mat0369 on May 25, 2019, 02:07:25 AM
I saw someone say they prefer the 2nd team better than the first. I gotta agree. They probably take out the 1 team in a 7 game series.
I agree, 2nd team definitely beats first team
Klay was super stiff to miss out, and the footage of him being told is pretty funny - he was really dirty getting snubbed
I watch a few shows every night on ESPN that discuss NBA for hours (love it) and it's certainly starting to sound like the general consensus is Lakers won't be able to land a superstar to partner with LBJ
Based on everything that is being said at the moment (and of course a lot will change over the coming month/s) it sounds like Kemba and Butler are probably the only two that are chances to end up at the Lakers
Going to be an exciting summer that's for sure
The talk was that Kemba/Butler or Kyrie/Butler were going to end up in either Brooklyn or at the Knicks together. With the emergence of D-Lo I think Brooklyn is likely to go the Butler/Harris route instead.
Kyrie is probably still Knicks bound, KD is the other one that may head to NY for who knows what reason. That takes them out of the running. Kemba is either staying put to capitalize on that supermax money or headed to LA/Philly depending what happens with Butler/Harris. The Clippers have two max slots and Leonard is still looking to head there. So you have KD/Butler/Harris/Kemba and possibly Klay that are all hitting the open market with all these max slots available. There are probably a couple others that I'm missing but it is hard to see the Lakers drawing a star even with LeBron unless they do it through a trade
Kemba ain't getting the max at Charlotte - Jordan won't go over and pay the tax, which is why he will go. You could tell on his last game as well that he was going to leave
A lot of movements are going to come off what KD does. Once he decides where he wants to go, then the rest will follow and slot in wherever
Klay won't leave. 100% he stays at GSW I reckon
KD, AD, Kyrie, Kemba and Butler I expect to all leave. Kawhi is 50/50 I reckon, pending on how Raptors finish up
WE GOING TO THE FINALS
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WE GOING TO THE FINALS
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WE GOING TO THE FINALS
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that’s nice
I feel more showerty and less showerty at the same time.
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on May 25, 2019, 12:51:03 AM
Huggy: https://www.forbes.com/sites/gabezaldivar/2019/05/24/lakers-rumors-are-heating-up-and-you-can-thank-lebron-james/#f355947ac36f
If we get Kawhi, I'll be ecstatic. Jimmy probably doesn't let us contend with GSW unless we also get AD.
Save us Toronto :'(
Quote from: fanTCfool on May 26, 2019, 08:34:10 PM
Save us Toronto :'(
I'm the opposite - don't mind if GSW win at all
5 finals in a row - we're witnessing a once in a lifetime thing here
If KD doesn't return and they win, then it's just a whole lot better
Should be an amazing series though, can't wait!
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on May 26, 2019, 11:51:55 PM
Quote from: fanTCfool on May 26, 2019, 08:34:10 PM
Save us Toronto :'(
I'm the opposite - don't mind if GSW win at all
5 finals in a row - we're witnessing a once in a lifetime thing here
If KD doesn't return and they win, then it's just a whole lot better
Should be an amazing series though, can't wait!
Boooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo
The only people who should be supporting the Warriors are Warriors fans, Bucks fans maybe, and salty Spurs fans
*cough*keeper27*cough*
Quote from: TomK on May 27, 2019, 12:21:24 AM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on May 26, 2019, 11:51:55 PM
Quote from: fanTCfool on May 26, 2019, 08:34:10 PM
Save us Toronto :'(
I'm the opposite - don't mind if GSW win at all
5 finals in a row - we're witnessing a once in a lifetime thing here
If KD doesn't return and they win, then it's just a whole lot better
Should be an amazing series though, can't wait!
Boooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo
The only people who should be supporting the Warriors are Warriors fans, Bucks fans maybe, and salty Spurs fans*cough*keeper27*cough*
I'm happy with either team winning. I just want to see an epic series
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Quote from: TomK on May 27, 2019, 12:21:24 AM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on May 26, 2019, 11:51:55 PM
Quote from: fanTCfool on May 26, 2019, 08:34:10 PM
Save us Toronto :'(
I'm the opposite - don't mind if GSW win at all
5 finals in a row - we're witnessing a once in a lifetime thing here
If KD doesn't return and they win, then it's just a whole lot better
Should be an amazing series though, can't wait!
Boooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo
The only people who should be supporting the Warriors are Warriors fans, Bucks fans maybe, and salty Spurs fans*cough*keeper27*cough*
I'm happy with either team winning. I just want to see an epic series
Wouldn't the series be more epic if the underdog beats the seemingly unbeatable powerhouse?
Quote from: fanTCfool on May 27, 2019, 12:33:03 AM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on May 27, 2019, 12:23:12 AM
Quote from: TomK on May 27, 2019, 12:21:24 AM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on May 26, 2019, 11:51:55 PM
Quote from: fanTCfool on May 26, 2019, 08:34:10 PM
Save us Toronto :'(
I'm the opposite - don't mind if GSW win at all
5 finals in a row - we're witnessing a once in a lifetime thing here
If KD doesn't return and they win, then it's just a whole lot better
Should be an amazing series though, can't wait!
Boooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo
The only people who should be supporting the Warriors are Warriors fans, Bucks fans maybe, and salty Spurs fans*cough*keeper27*cough*
I'm happy with either team winning. I just want to see an epic series
Wouldn't the series be more epic if the underdog beats the seemingly unbeatable powerhouse?
If we get to 7 games then I'm sure it's been epic, and that's what I want to see as a neutral
Heck, if the Raptors sweep GSW (lol) then I'd be disappointed. As a neutral I just want to see it go the distance. I certainly wouldn't be upset to see Kawhi lead the Raptors to victory but the end result is somewhat secondary for me - the actual journey is what I love to watch
Warriors are meant to win, nothing special there, but Kawhi has a chance to become elite. It's about time something special happened in the NBA, don't give me that warriors dynasty bullshower, they took the piss when they signed KD, then signed Demarcus.
Quote from: Mat0369 on May 25, 2019, 02:07:25 AM
I saw someone say they prefer the 2nd team better than the first. I gotta agree. They probably take out the 1 team in a 7 game series.
well the 2nd team has the top 2 players in the NBA in it.
the issue is the fwds and centres are better then the guards.
Jokic, Giannis, KD, Kawhii, PG13 is who i would have gone with if positions didnt matter.
Quote from: Holz on May 27, 2019, 10:34:15 AM
Quote from: Mat0369 on May 25, 2019, 02:07:25 AM
I saw someone say they prefer the 2nd team better than the first. I gotta agree. They probably take out the 1 team in a 7 game series.
well the 2nd team has the top 2 players in the NBA in it.
the issue is the fwds and centres are better then the guards.
Jokic, Giannis, KD, Kawhii, PG13 is who i would have gone with if positions didnt matter.
Just remember that it's a regular season award. Players like Kawhi that missed a lot of games to save themselves for playoffs don't necessarily deserve first team, even if they're a better player.
Quote from: jvalles69 on May 27, 2019, 05:23:41 AM
Warriors are meant to win, nothing special there, but Kawhi has a chance to become elite. It's about time something special happened in the NBA, don't give me that warriors dynasty bullshower, they took the piss when they signed KD, then signed Demarcus.
They won 2015 without either of them, and just closed out Houston then swept Portland without both of them either
Of course they are a better side when those two are out there but I don't subscribe to those two putting an asterick on their achievements
GSW are 32-1 without KD, so they clearly ball well without him
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on May 27, 2019, 11:22:47 AM
Quote from: jvalles69 on May 27, 2019, 05:23:41 AM
Warriors are meant to win, nothing special there, but Kawhi has a chance to become elite. It's about time something special happened in the NBA, don't give me that warriors dynasty bullshower, they took the piss when they signed KD, then signed Demarcus.
They won 2015 without either of them, and just closed out Houston then swept Portland without both of them either
Of course they are a better side when those two are out there but I don't subscribe to those two putting an asterick on their achievements
GSW are 32-1 without KD, so they clearly ball well without him
No asterisk on any title, just boring seeing this team win everything, it's not their fault, but similar to Spurs when they were as boring as bat shower to watch, but were just better than everyone. With or without KD, they hold that elite-ness over everyone. Would be much better for basketball if Kawhi was to go to the next level, either way I see KD leaving next season and a whole reshuffle that should make things interesting.
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Quote from: RaisyDaisy on May 27, 2019, 11:22:47 AM
Quote from: jvalles69 on May 27, 2019, 05:23:41 AM
Warriors are meant to win, nothing special there, but Kawhi has a chance to become elite. It's about time something special happened in the NBA, don't give me that warriors dynasty bullshower, they took the piss when they signed KD, then signed Demarcus.
They won 2015 without either of them, and just closed out Houston then swept Portland without both of them either
Of course they are a better side when those two are out there but I don't subscribe to those two putting an asterick on their achievements
GSW are 32-1 without KD, so they clearly ball well without him
No asterisk on any title, just boring seeing this team win everything, it's not their fault, but similar to Spurs when they were as boring as bat shower to watch, but were just better than everyone. With or without KD, they hold that elite-ness over everyone. Would be much better for basketball if Kawhi was to go to the next level, either way I see KD leaving next season and a whole reshuffle that should make things interesting.
I agree, and I think next year is when you will get what you're after
KD will go for sure (he needs to have his own team and win finals to get the respect he wants and he knows that) and then the likes of AD, Kyrie and possibly even Kawhi will all be elsewhere so next year is shaping up to be very exciting
That said, even with Steph, Klay and Draymond GSW could still win it all next year too haha
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Quote from: jvalles69 on May 27, 2019, 01:12:36 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on May 27, 2019, 11:22:47 AM
Quote from: jvalles69 on May 27, 2019, 05:23:41 AM
Warriors are meant to win, nothing special there, but Kawhi has a chance to become elite. It's about time something special happened in the NBA, don't give me that warriors dynasty bullshower, they took the piss when they signed KD, then signed Demarcus.
They won 2015 without either of them, and just closed out Houston then swept Portland without both of them either
Of course they are a better side when those two are out there but I don't subscribe to those two putting an asterick on their achievements
GSW are 32-1 without KD, so they clearly ball well without him
No asterisk on any title, just boring seeing this team win everything, it's not their fault, but similar to Spurs when they were as boring as bat shower to watch, but were just better than everyone. With or without KD, they hold that elite-ness over everyone. Would be much better for basketball if Kawhi was to go to the next level, either way I see KD leaving next season and a whole reshuffle that should make things interesting.
I agree, and I think next year is when you will get what you're after
KD will go for sure (he needs to have his own team and win finals to get the respect he wants and he knows that) and then the likes of AD, Kyrie and possibly even Kawhi will all be elsewhere so next year is shaping up to be very exciting
That said, even with Steph, Klay and Draymond GSW could still win it all next year too haha
Exactly, and I don't mind them winning it as much on a level playing field, they're an amazing team just with that lineup.
I'm all aboard the Raps bandwagon, toot toot! Let's go Kawhi "MJ" Leonard!
Here we go!
Get it Siakam!
What a game from him! It's weird that it felt like GSW could still win it all the way until the end though. I'd still say they're favourites but let's go Raptors for Game 2.
Let's see if Siakam can back it up though
He's had 1 big game each series so far and then gone quiet
Was a great game to watch live - crowd was huge - bring on Monday!
I can't see Toronto winning at Oracle twice so I still expect this going to 6 minimum
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on May 31, 2019, 08:34:29 PM
Let's see if Siakam can back it up though
He's had 1 big game each series so far and then gone quiet
Was a great game to watch live - crowd was huge - bring on Monday!
I can't see Toronto winning at Oracle twice so I still expect this going to 6 minimum
That'd be 5 minimum. Finals are 2-2-1-1-1. Haven't been 2-3-2 in ages.
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Quote from: RaisyDaisy on May 31, 2019, 08:34:29 PM
Let's see if Siakam can back it up though
He's had 1 big game each series so far and then gone quiet
Was a great game to watch live - crowd was huge - bring on Monday!
I can't see Toronto winning at Oracle twice so I still expect this going to 6 minimum
That'd be 5 minimum. Finals are 2-2-1-1-1. Haven't been 2-3-2 in ages.
Well I expect GSW to win both at home in 3 and 4 hence 6 prediction
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agreed, raps in 4
that start to the 3rd quarter gonna give me nightmares
I suspect that this is the Toronto we are likely going to see for the majority of the series
We know Kawhi will deliver, but unless others really step up (ala Siakam Game 1) Raps can't beat GSW
Klay and Looney potentially missing now on top of KD - Raps won't get a better chance, but if guys like Gasol, Green, Lowry etc don't really step up then it's over
:'(
Kawhi has been only good so far, he's been slightly off IMO, only a matter of time till he has one of those unstoppable games.
VanVleet has been great, dumb foul by Lowry to get him out of the game.
3rd qtr killed Toronto, Draymond has been huge.
Nurse's coaching was incredible to switch up that defence once Klay went down. They should've been able to steal that lead back but just couldn't hit a shot. Then Iggy happened...
Atmosphere is electric
Monster 1st quarter by Steph, but Raptors are switched on
Going to be a cracker!
Steph won me a lot of $$$'s today. ;D
wArRiOrS iN fOuR
That hit to the face looked so gruesome...
After Game 3, I said that whoever wins Game 4 will win the series. I thought GSW would eventually win it with KD back if they could even things at 2-2 but at 3-1, it's time for the Raptors to take it all at home!
And just as I'd thought it looks like the AUS vs USA series won't have as much superstars as they'd initially suggested
Harden and AD the only two superstars with a few all-stars and plenty of meh
Knew it'd be a rip, and people should be allowed to get refunds imo - advertising so much superstars coming, charging through the roof for it, then most of them don't even come
KD back
Gotta go for broke now
I jumped on Warriors last night straight up and in a few multis, cannot see Warriors going down 4-1 and I still think Raptors win this in 7 games.
Just following up on what I said earlier - this is the 20 man squad, which will get crunched down to 12
Pretty poor form advertising so much superstars coming so people pay up for tickets, then only 2-3 actually come
Harrison Barnes Sacramento Kings
Bradley Beal Washington Wizards
Anthony Davis New Orleans Pelicans
Andre Drummond Detroit Pistons
Eric Gordon Houston Rockets
James Harden Houston Rockets
Tobias Harris Philadelphia 76ers
Damian Lillard Portland Trail Blazers
Kevin Love Cleveland Cavaliers
Kyle Lowry Toronto Raptors
CJ McCollum Portland Trail Blazers
Khris Middleton Milwaukee Bucks
Myles Turner Indiana Pacers
Kemba Walker Charlotte Hornets
Kyle Kuzma Los Angeles Lakers
Brook Lopez Milwaukee Bucks
Paul Millsap Denver Nuggets
Donovan Mitchell Utah Jazz
Jayson Tatum Boston Celtics
P.J. Tucker Houston Rockets
Wow... that lineup is genuinely trash. I might actually ask for a refund.
KD cooked, re injured his Achilles. :o
Quote from: jvalles69 on June 11, 2019, 01:25:29 PM
KD cooked, re injured his Achilles. :o
I'm under the impression it's just lower calf, not achilles (i.e. muscle, not tendon) but still really tough for him. Was playing super well too.
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KD cooked, re injured his Achilles. :o
I'm under the impression it's just lower calf, not achilles (i.e. muscle, not tendon) but still really tough for him. Was playing super well too.
They've kept saying it's calf, but sheesh he grabbed very low when it happened again today - borderline achilles imo
Such a shame, because he was playing well, and injuries in the finals is just a real shame for anyone
Ughhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
What a terrible final play for the Raps, yuck.
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on June 11, 2019, 12:16:23 PM
Just following up on what I said earlier - this is the 20 man squad, which will get crunched down to 12
Pretty poor form advertising so much superstars coming so people pay up for tickets, then only 2-3 actually come
Harrison Barnes Sacramento Kings
Bradley Beal Washington Wizards
Anthony Davis New Orleans Pelicans
Andre Drummond Detroit Pistons
Eric Gordon Houston Rockets
James Harden Houston Rockets
Tobias Harris Philadelphia 76ers
Damian Lillard Portland Trail Blazers
Kevin Love Cleveland Cavaliers
Kyle Lowry Toronto Raptors
CJ McCollum Portland Trail Blazers
Khris Middleton Milwaukee Bucks
Myles Turner Indiana Pacers
Kemba Walker Charlotte Hornets
Kyle Kuzma Los Angeles Lakers
Brook Lopez Milwaukee Bucks
Paul Millsap Denver Nuggets
Donovan Mitchell Utah Jazz
Jayson Tatum Boston Celtics
P.J. Tucker Houston Rockets
Is anyone really surprised though? It's a World Cup warm up game. Last time they played in the world cup this was the roster
Players: Pts. Rebs. Asts.
SG 4 Stephen Curry* 10 1 0
SG 5 Klay Thompson 12 0 2
PG 6 Derrick Rose 0 1 6
PF 7 Kenneth Faried* 12 7 0
PF 8 Rudy Gay 11 3 0
SF 9 DeMar DeRozan 10 1 1
PG 10 Kyrie Irving* 26 1 4
PF 11 Mason Plumlee 1 4 0
C 12 DeMarcus Cousins 11 9 1
SF 13 James Harden* 23 3 2
C 14 Anthony Davis* 7 4 0
C 15 Andre Drummond 6 2 0
Head coach:
United States Mike Krzyzewski
That was Steph and Klay pre dynasty, Rose when he sucked a couple years off the knee injury, AD was in year 3. Harden, Kyrie and Boogie were probably playing at an All-Star level at that point, the rest not so much. There was 0 chance they brought out more than 2 legit stars and a bunch of meh players.
Yeah like I said I always expected it to be a pretty meh line-up, and with the crazy prices for a half decent seat I was never really interested in going to see a meh line-up, but my issue is with the fact they advertised and threw around a lot of superstar names when selling the tickets, so to come out with this is a complete rip off and I genuinely think refunds should be an option although I know that won't happen
Sucks for anyone who paid up big to attend
Was just reading about some recent trade talks/rumours
I saw recently that Brooklyn has now made space and has 2 max slots available after trading Allen Crabbe and I think two 1st round picks. Word is Kyrie wants to go there, but is trying to get KD to come along with him. Either way for Brooklyn to make that move and free up 2 slots suggests they might think they're a very good chance to land 2 stars
Boston is very interested in Capella. Sounds like both Boston and Houston are open to trading everyone on their lists (Bar Harden)
NOP GM is telling sides it is likely going to require a multi team deal to get what they need for AD. Lakers or Knicks are AD's first preferences, but looks like a 3 way club trade might be needed for this. Boston aren't giving up on trying to land him either
As a Sixers fan I have no worries about Boston going after AD or Capela. Neither can handle JoJo so that's a win for us.
If the Nets are going to get Kyrie and another max player that means they can't sign Russell. They also really need frontcourt help and one of their major strengths was their bench. So again, they will have to make the playoffs without KD for most of the season and an often injured Kyrie, I think that helps us again.
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As a Sixers fan I have no worries about Boston going after AD or Capela. Neither can handle JoJo so that's a win for us.
If the Nets are going to get Kyrie and another max player that means they can't sign Russell. They also really need frontcourt help and one of their major strengths was their bench. So again, they will have to make the playoffs without KD for most of the season and an often injured Kyrie, I think that helps us again.
Recent word I heard is that Butler is now likely to stay at Sixers, so you'd have to be happy about that if that eventuates
Sounding like it could be an Achilles tear for KD, and there's potential that it could be a 12 month injury
Whether you like him or not, that's a horrible outcome for him and the game in general
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on June 12, 2019, 12:26:28 AM
Sounding like it could be an Achilles tear for KD, and there's potential that it could be a 12 month injury
Whether you like him or not, that's a horrible outcome for him and the game in general
Absolutely terrible, reckon he will re-sign with the Warriors now.
Draymond in risk of getting suspended with 1 more tech...Ibaka, now's your time to irk someone till they respond, greatness awaits you. :P
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Quote from: RaisyDaisy on June 12, 2019, 12:26:28 AM
Sounding like it could be an Achilles tear for KD, and there's potential that it could be a 12 month injury
Whether you like him or not, that's a horrible outcome for him and the game in general
Absolutely terrible, reckon he will re-sign with the Warriors now.
Draymond in risk of getting suspended with 1 more tech...Ibaka, now's your time to irk someone till they respond, greatness awaits you. :P
Hah, you're a betting man - have you seen any bookies offering odds on him getting his 7th tech? ;D
As for KD, if he is indeed out for 12 months I think the rest of the trade period might not be as exciting as it was looking to be, because he was the guy that all the other dominoes were going to fall around. I was watching a show last night and they said there's already a line of teams that will offer KD the max even if he's out for 12 months, so I guess it just comes down to him and whether or not he feels he has unfinished business and stays, or decided to move on and earn even more next season for basically just doing a whole lot of rehab
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Sounding like it could be an Achilles tear for KD, and there's potential that it could be a 12 month injury
Whether you like him or not, that's a horrible outcome for him and the game in general
Absolutely terrible, reckon he will re-sign with the Warriors now.
Draymond in risk of getting suspended with 1 more tech...Ibaka, now's your time to irk someone till they respond, greatness awaits you. :P
Hah, you're a betting man - have you seen any bookies offering odds on him getting his 7th tech? ;D
As for KD, if he is indeed out for 12 months I think the rest of the trade period might not be as exciting as it was looking to be, because he was the guy that all the other dominoes were going to fall around. I was watching a show last night and they said there's already a line of teams that will offer KD the max even if he's out for 12 months, so I guess it just comes down to him and whether or not he feels he has unfinished business and stays, or decided to move on and earn even more next season for basically just doing a whole lot of rehab
Haha, haven't seen anyone offering it! :D
Agree, think the whole off season will be more of a fizzer now with KD missing the next season essentially.
if KD is out for the year and stays i still think its pretty interesting.
it means the warriors are now beatable anyway if they are carrying a injured KD.
Kyrie is still likely moving, AD will be moving so there will still be things happening. Teams will think they can contend for the championship now.
I would think KD would take his one year player option, rehab with the Warriors for a year, then sign a big max contract with whoever he wants the following year.
Quote from: LaHug on June 12, 2019, 03:22:46 PM
I would think KD would take his one year player option, rehab with the Warriors for a year, then sign a big max contract with whoever he wants the following year.
just a crazy thought
if you the warriors do you want KD to leave?
like they havent won without KD but that might not be because they lost KD as opposed to them just losing a max contract level player.
like if you put Jimmy Butler or Kemba on this team (different player so not perfect example) i think they still win.
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Quote from: LaHug on June 12, 2019, 03:22:46 PM
I would think KD would take his one year player option, rehab with the Warriors for a year, then sign a big max contract with whoever he wants the following year.
just a crazy thought
if you the warriors do you want KD to leave?
like they havent won without KD but that might not be because they lost KD as opposed to them just losing a max contract level player.
like if you put Jimmy Butler or Kemba on this team (different player so not perfect example) i think they still win.
Steph, Klay, Draymond, Iggy and Boogie - I don't think Kemba/Butler etc changes much at all. Without KD they are still an excellent team, but they are beatable. With KD nobody is beating them
What's the benefit of KD taking his player option, doing a year of rehab at GSW and then leaving for a max elsewhere? Sounds like a pretty scummy thing to do - why not just go elsewhere right now and do rehab there, on even more money and without dicking around GSW for 12 months?
If he stays at GSW, surely it has to be for several years, not just to do rehab then leave
I feel so sorry for KD, and don't get me wrong, I didn't like it when he joined the Warriors either, but ever since he did, all he's been told is he's soft, weak, can't beat them, join them, joined a 73-9 team, his rings mean nothing etc., and he's shown he cares what people think with him arguing with random trolls on Twitter, so many people believe his legacy is ruined for what he did.
What better way to restore it than to miraculously come back from injury when your team needs you, is down 3-1 in the finals, and lead them to their 3rd straight title while only being the 2nd team ever to come back from that deficit, the 1st being the very same team he joined? There were already people saying he was soft, weak, wasn't there for his teammates because he wasn't playing, which is bullshower, players' health should always be the first priority, and only fools think players should risk their health and well-being and go out and play even if they shouldn't. He felt the pressure and he gave in to it, and so did the organisation, there's no doubt in my mind he shouldn't have played, if the Warriors were up 3-1 then neither him or Looney would've been out there. You can't fault KD's heart for wanting to go out there and be with his teammates while not being 100%, but the organisation, the doctors, who ever gave the all clear for KD to play should be ashamed of themselves. Whether he would've stayed with the Warriors or not if he didn't get injured, we've been robbed of 12 months and potentially the prime of one of the best players of this generation, well done.
This is perfect from Jalen Rose: https://twitter.com/FirstTake/status/1138461364542955522
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on June 12, 2019, 03:48:15 PM
Quote from: Holz on June 12, 2019, 03:42:00 PM
Quote from: LaHug on June 12, 2019, 03:22:46 PM
I would think KD would take his one year player option, rehab with the Warriors for a year, then sign a big max contract with whoever he wants the following year.
just a crazy thought
if you the warriors do you want KD to leave?
like they havent won without KD but that might not be because they lost KD as opposed to them just losing a max contract level player.
like if you put Jimmy Butler or Kemba on this team (different player so not perfect example) i think they still win.
Steph, Klay, Draymond, Iggy and Boogie - I don't think Kemba/Butler etc changes much at all. Without KD they are still an excellent team, but they are beatable. With KD nobody is beating them
What's the benefit of KD taking his player option, doing a year of rehab at GSW and then leaving for a max elsewhere? Sounds like a pretty scummy thing to do - why not just go elsewhere right now and do rehab there, on even more money and without dicking around GSW for 12 months?
Or just sign the max with GSW.
Agree Tom
I watch First Take every night, and Jalen was great last night
I also think that what GSW's GM said was right on the money too - that KD is a genuinely great guy who always puts the team first, but he is also misunderstood from the outside due to what we see, eg/ twitter wars etc
KD is easily my most favourite active player to watch, so it's a real shame that he will be out for 12 months, and who knows if it impacts him for the rest of his career too - history suggests it will
I love KD too, but he needs to check his scathing attitude towards media, yeah you don't have to like what they do, but don't respond either. If you haven't listened to all his interviews with Bill Simmons then it's well worth it, you get a much better idea of the type of person he is (sounds like a great guy), however some things he says can be quite arrogant and again quite scathing. I kind of have a love/hate thing with him, some times he just comes off as a complete jerk, other times you just want to pump your fist for him. Quite a polarising character and sad to see him miss a season if that's the case.
That was the worst final play in the history of basketball. Wtf was that inbound pass
Game ruined with 1000 whistles. Also the Draymond timeout call isn’t anything like the Webber one
Down 1 pt on your home court and you take a 3 being double teamed...pump fake, layup, easy 2 or get fouled and go to the line. Been some bonehead plays this series.
Congrats to Raps, I called it in 7 with Kawhi MVP, happy for them and the people of Toronto!
WE THE flowerING NORTH BABY WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
Confirmed ACL for Thompson. Man that’s sad at. Were close to witness something special and basketball gods took that away from us
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Confirmed ACL for Thompson. Man that’s sad at. Were close to witness something special and basketball gods took that away from us
Wow, really? That's terrible news!
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Confirmed ACL for Thompson. Man that’s sad at. Were close to witness something special and basketball gods took that away from us
Wow, really? That's terrible news!
Woj bomb
Quote from: jvalles69 on June 14, 2019, 03:17:11 PM
Down 1 pt on your home court and you take a 3 being double teamed...pump fake, layup, easy 2 or get fouled and go to the line. Been some bonehead plays this series.
Congrats to Raps, I called it in 7 with Kawhi MVP, happy for them and the people of Toronto!
Check the replay, Steph had a pretty good look. I'd back him to make that shot most of the time, just didn't fall.
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Quote from: jvalles69 on June 14, 2019, 03:17:11 PM
Down 1 pt on your home court and you take a 3 being double teamed...pump fake, layup, easy 2 or get fouled and go to the line. Been some bonehead plays this series.
Congrats to Raps, I called it in 7 with Kawhi MVP, happy for them and the people of Toronto!
Check the replay, Steph had a pretty good look. I'd back him to make that shot most of the time, just didn't fall.
No doubt he had an open look, still a bonehead play no matter what level you're at. #1 priority is to avoid elimination, they didn't do that.
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Down 1 pt on your home court and you take a 3 being double teamed...pump fake, layup, easy 2 or get fouled and go to the line. Been some bonehead plays this series.
Congrats to Raps, I called it in 7 with Kawhi MVP, happy for them and the people of Toronto!
Check the replay, Steph had a pretty good look. I'd back him to make that shot most of the time, just didn't fall.
No doubt he had an open look, still a bonehead play no matter what level you're at. #1 priority is to avoid elimination, they didn't do that.
If you’ve seen where that play come from 2014 MM from memory. It’s a 2 second play not a 9 second play
Quote from: TomK on June 14, 2019, 03:34:30 PM
WE THE flowerING NORTH BABY WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
Feel like you actually need to be living in Canada to use that line :P Just doesn't sound good coming out of SA :P
Great result for the Raps, they were certainly the best "team". Kawhi lead the way but 6-7 other blokes consistently pulled their weight, where as GSW had to rely on a select few so the best team certainly won
Absolutely gutted for Klay, and it's going to be really disappointing that we are not going to see both him and KD for most of if not all of next season but if this hasn't fired a rocket up the Lakers then nothing will - get the deal for AD done any damn way you can because while KD and Klay are out the West is up for grabs and Lebron/AD would dominate it
Goes without saying that GSW will fall back next season - might even struggle to make playoffs, but if they retain both KD and Klay (which latest news suggests they will) then they'll be back up near the top in 2020-21 obviously so there's certainly an opportunity for several clubs to pounce next year while they're out
Hope Kawhi stays at Toronto now too
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Quote from: TomK on June 14, 2019, 03:34:30 PM
WE THE flowerING NORTH BABY WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
Feel like you actually need to be living in Canada to use that line :P Just doesn't sound good coming out of SA :P
cheers smart ass, couldn't care less
you support West Coast, yet you live on the East Coast
guess I can't say 'we fly as one' either cause I can't fly
::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::)
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Quote from: TomK on June 14, 2019, 03:34:30 PM
WE THE flowerING NORTH BABY WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
Feel like you actually need to be living in Canada to use that line :P Just doesn't sound good coming out of SA :P
cheers smart ass, couldn't care less
you support West Coast, yet you live on the East Coast
guess I can't say 'we fly as one' either cause I can't fly
::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::)
lmao take a chill pill lol you clearly took that the wrong way
:P = joking
Sheesh
Thoughts on the AD trade? My initial reaction is that we overpaid. I'm hearing that these are the picks we've given up:
2019 pick (#4)
2021 pick - top 8 protected in 2021, defers to 2022 where it is unprotected
2023 pick swap
2024 pick unprotected
2025 pick swap
Those last 2-3 picks could get very ugly once LeBron is gone.
As much as I hate losing Lonzo and BI, I know they wanted a pay day in the next year(s) so it makes sense to trade them and keep Kuzma.
I think it all comes down to whether or not we get a star in FA now. My priorities would be Kawhi, Kemba, Kyrie, Butler in that order. Reports suggesting we're targeting Kemba so I'm guessing that means Kawhi isn't showing interest...
Quote from: LaHug on June 16, 2019, 07:58:39 PM
Thoughts on the AD trade? My initial reaction is that we overpaid. I'm hearing that these are the picks we've given up:
2019 pick (#4)
2021 pick - top 8 protected in 2021, defers to 2022 where it is unprotected
2023 pick swap
2024 pick unprotected
2025 pick swap
Those last 2-3 picks could get very ugly once LeBron is gone.
As much as I hate losing Lonzo and BI, I know they wanted a pay day in the next year(s) so it makes sense to trade them and keep Kuzma.
I think it all comes down to whether or not we get a star in FA now. My priorities would be Kawhi, Kemba, Kyrie, Butler in that order. Reports suggesting we're targeting Kemba so I'm guessing that means Kawhi isn't showing interest...
You have LeBron for only a few years, and KD and Klay have just gone down so I can understand the decision to make the trade - long term you're probably stuffed, but are you going to care if it means you get a chip in the next year of two?
Now is definitely the time to pounce so I get the reasons behind doing it, but when a power move like this is made you really need to go all the way now and win it all - anything less and it's a failure
NOP have done very well here. Jrue and Lonzo in the back court and Zion is quite exciting and an opportunity to really build something long term
Edit: Just saw that Kemba is Lakers main priority now
LeBron, AD and Kemba
Sheesh!
Seen that Kemba is keen to stay and win in Charlotte, think Kyrie or Jimmy are the best bets to end up at the Lakers.
NOLA should trade up for pick 3 and pair up Zion and Barrett again, surely that would help their chances of retaining Barrett. Pick 4 and Ingram to NYC for pick 3? Surely NYC jump at that.
Lakers don't have cap for a max player with the trade going through before the 30th.
Illawarra Hawks just signed Lamelo Ball and Aaron Brooks. Big signings and great for the NBL. Pity the 1 and done will get scrapped soon, NBL is starting to get some big traction with the NBA.
Quote from: Mat0369 on June 17, 2019, 03:04:59 PM
Lakers don't have cap for a max player with the trade going through before the 30th.
depends if the trade does go through before the 30th i thinkboth teams will hold off untill the 30th unless NO move the 4th pick in that case the team taking the pick will want the deal done.
id be more then happy getting 2 guys like Bogdonovic, Green, Collison, Pat Bev, Morris
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Quote from: Mat0369 on June 17, 2019, 03:04:59 PM
Lakers don't have cap for a max player with the trade going through before the 30th.
depends if the trade does go through before the 30th i thinkboth teams will hold off untill the 30th unless NO move the 4th pick in that case the team taking the pick will want the deal done.
id be more then happy getting 2 guys like Bogdonovic, Green, Collison, Pat Bev, Morris
It'll be done prior
Leaves Lakers with about 22.7M instead of 32.x M so you'd think there just going to have to find some pieces to put around the big 2 now and won't be able to get a Kemba, Butler type
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Quote from: Holz on June 18, 2019, 11:11:17 AM
Quote from: Mat0369 on June 17, 2019, 03:04:59 PM
Lakers don't have cap for a max player with the trade going through before the 30th.
depends if the trade does go through before the 30th i thinkboth teams will hold off untill the 30th unless NO move the 4th pick in that case the team taking the pick will want the deal done.
id be more then happy getting 2 guys like Bogdonovic, Green, Collison, Pat Bev, Morris
It'll be done prior
Leaves Lakers with about 22.7M instead of 32.x M so you'd think there just going to have to find some pieces to put around the big 2 now and won't be able to get a Kemba, Butler type
why do you think it will be done prior unless they move the 4th pick?
NO benefits with more cap too i think, the only downside is they cant play the #4 in the G/D league untill the 30th.
Quote from: Holz on June 18, 2019, 11:34:39 AM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on June 18, 2019, 11:26:16 AM
Quote from: Holz on June 18, 2019, 11:11:17 AM
Quote from: Mat0369 on June 17, 2019, 03:04:59 PM
Lakers don't have cap for a max player with the trade going through before the 30th.
depends if the trade does go through before the 30th i thinkboth teams will hold off untill the 30th unless NO move the 4th pick in that case the team taking the pick will want the deal done.
id be more then happy getting 2 guys like Bogdonovic, Green, Collison, Pat Bev, Morris
It'll be done prior
Leaves Lakers with about 22.7M instead of 32.x M so you'd think there just going to have to find some pieces to put around the big 2 now and won't be able to get a Kemba, Butler type
why do you think it will be done prior unless they move the 4th pick?
NO benefits with more cap too i think, the only downside is they cant play the #4 in the G/D league untill the 30th.
Well that's the thing, I reckon they might move the 4th. By doing that, I think it gives them more cap $ to use too?
It probably helps Lakers actually get better depth too. Obviously if they land a Kemba type then having 3 stars is going to make them near unbeatable, but if they do the trade later and have less cap then they can grab 2 decent guys like Reddick, Green etc (saw that suggested on ESPN) which is probably better depth wise
Will be interesting to see how it plays out. Look forward to watching the draft on Friday at 9am
in fairness to kuzma he is a really above average 4th option.
not a great 3 point shooter so that an issue.
yeah im not a huge fan of getting Kemba.
Kawhii obviously youd go for it.
Butler given he is 3 and D and is a closer id be happy with
Kyrie im 50/50 on
then everyone else id prefer 2 role players.
https://twitter.com/wojespn/status/1140296688650903553?s=20
They aren't waiting
Quote from: Mat0369 on June 18, 2019, 09:12:37 PM
https://twitter.com/wojespn/status/1140296688650903553?s=20
They aren't waiting
Woj historically has no sources on the Lakers OR LeBron teams so I'm not trusting him on these things. Ramona is the one I'll listen to.
Quote from: LaHug on June 18, 2019, 10:03:15 PM
Quote from: Mat0369 on June 18, 2019, 09:12:37 PM
https://twitter.com/wojespn/status/1140296688650903553?s=20
They aren't waiting
Woj historically has no sources on the Lakers OR LeBron teams so I'm not trusting him on these things. Ramona is the one I'll listen to.
I agree, however now that i think about it, it makes much more sense for Pelicans to pull of the trade early. they wont be maxing the cap and they want flexibility on the pick especially with reports that Garland is a chance at pick 3 so RJ Barett could be on the board.
Barnes and Horford look to be on the way out of Dallas and Celts respectively.
Looks like Lakers are now scrambling to try and free up the 32M they would want to land another star
AD would need to pass up his 4M trade bonus for this to happen, and they'd need to trade out another couple of players
Basically gutting the list, but would have 3 stars
Does AD pass up 4M? Time will tell
Conley to Utah, from 1 boring team to another, but definite upgrade for Utah.
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on June 19, 2019, 11:56:32 PM
Does AD pass up 4M? Time will tell
I think he'll pass it up if he knows that Kawhi or Butler or even Kyrie/Kemba is coming but I don't think he gives it up without being certain it's for another star. LeBron, Rich Paul, and AD will be very much in the loop of all moves going forward, I'm sure of it. That said, I'm currently feeling a very very small chance of getting Kawhi right now but it's my dream scenario (obviously). Before LeBron came, I was in it for the long haul in developing the youth. I was watching every game of BI, Lonzo, Randle, Kuzma, DLo, etc. but now it's about win now. I just hope we don't screw this all up...
Quote from: LaHug on June 20, 2019, 12:51:50 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on June 19, 2019, 11:56:32 PM
Does AD pass up 4M? Time will tell
I think he'll pass it up if he knows that Kawhi or Butler or even Kyrie/Kemba is coming but I don't think he gives it up without being certain it's for another star. LeBron, Rich Paul, and AD will be very much in the loop of all moves going forward, I'm sure of it. That said, I'm currently feeling a very very small chance of getting Kawhi right now but it's my dream scenario (obviously). Before LeBron came, I was in it for the long haul in developing the youth. I was watching every game of BI, Lonzo, Randle, Kuzma, DLo, etc. but now it's about win now. I just hope we don't screw this all up...
If you do screw it up, you can always move onto NOLA, they are going to be fun to watch! :P
Quote from: jvalles69 on June 20, 2019, 01:28:29 PM
Quote from: LaHug on June 20, 2019, 12:51:50 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on June 19, 2019, 11:56:32 PM
Does AD pass up 4M? Time will tell
I think he'll pass it up if he knows that Kawhi or Butler or even Kyrie/Kemba is coming but I don't think he gives it up without being certain it's for another star. LeBron, Rich Paul, and AD will be very much in the loop of all moves going forward, I'm sure of it. That said, I'm currently feeling a very very small chance of getting Kawhi right now but it's my dream scenario (obviously). Before LeBron came, I was in it for the long haul in developing the youth. I was watching every game of BI, Lonzo, Randle, Kuzma, DLo, etc. but now it's about win now. I just hope we don't screw this all up...
If you do screw it up, you can always move onto NOLA, they are going to be fun to watch! :P
If Brooklyn gets Kyrie and gives up DLo to do it, and DLo signs with NOLA, I might genuinely have a second team for the first time in my sporting fandom life. Could you imagine the Lakers young core team + Zion + Pick 4 + Jrue as the key vet? What a team that'd be. (Highly doubt it happens for what it's worth.)
Quote from: LaHug on June 20, 2019, 01:54:54 PM
Quote from: jvalles69 on June 20, 2019, 01:28:29 PM
Quote from: LaHug on June 20, 2019, 12:51:50 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on June 19, 2019, 11:56:32 PM
Does AD pass up 4M? Time will tell
I think he'll pass it up if he knows that Kawhi or Butler or even Kyrie/Kemba is coming but I don't think he gives it up without being certain it's for another star. LeBron, Rich Paul, and AD will be very much in the loop of all moves going forward, I'm sure of it. That said, I'm currently feeling a very very small chance of getting Kawhi right now but it's my dream scenario (obviously). Before LeBron came, I was in it for the long haul in developing the youth. I was watching every game of BI, Lonzo, Randle, Kuzma, DLo, etc. but now it's about win now. I just hope we don't screw this all up...
If you do screw it up, you can always move onto NOLA, they are going to be fun to watch! :P
If Brooklyn gets Kyrie and gives up DLo to do it, and DLo signs with NOLA, I might genuinely have a second team for the first time in my sporting fandom life. Could you imagine the Lakers young core team + Zion + Pick 4 + Jrue as the key vet? What a team that'd be. (Highly doubt it happens for what it's worth.)
Sounds like Brooklyn might not be keen on Kyrie any more if he can't bring KD with him.
A back court of Lonzo and Jrue would be close to the best defensive back court in the game? Feel like Ingram and Ball will breakout without having the constant pressure of Lebron breathing down their necks. NOLA still need a ring defender when they go big, they should try and trade up to pick 3 to get RJ Barrett next to Zion again.
Strong reports coming out of Phoenix that Ricky Rubio is the man we want.
Don’t know why we wouldn’t be interested in DeAngelo Russell who I think fits our age demographic a lot better.
If we can get Rubio and not have to pay him too much I think he is a good get.
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Quote from: LaHug on June 20, 2019, 01:54:54 PM
Quote from: jvalles69 on June 20, 2019, 01:28:29 PM
Quote from: LaHug on June 20, 2019, 12:51:50 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on June 19, 2019, 11:56:32 PM
Does AD pass up 4M? Time will tell
I think he'll pass it up if he knows that Kawhi or Butler or even Kyrie/Kemba is coming but I don't think he gives it up without being certain it's for another star. LeBron, Rich Paul, and AD will be very much in the loop of all moves going forward, I'm sure of it. That said, I'm currently feeling a very very small chance of getting Kawhi right now but it's my dream scenario (obviously). Before LeBron came, I was in it for the long haul in developing the youth. I was watching every game of BI, Lonzo, Randle, Kuzma, DLo, etc. but now it's about win now. I just hope we don't screw this all up...
If you do screw it up, you can always move onto NOLA, they are going to be fun to watch! :P
If Brooklyn gets Kyrie and gives up DLo to do it, and DLo signs with NOLA, I might genuinely have a second team for the first time in my sporting fandom life. Could you imagine the Lakers young core team + Zion + Pick 4 + Jrue as the key vet? What a team that'd be. (Highly doubt it happens for what it's worth.)
Sounds like Brooklyn might not be keen on Kyrie any more if he can't bring KD with him.
A back court of Lonzo and Jrue would be close to the best defensive back court in the game? Feel like Ingram and Ball will breakout without having the constant pressure of Lebron breathing down their necks. NOLA still need a ring defender when they go big, they should try and trade up to pick 3 to get RJ Barrett next to Zion again.
They need to be healthy i dont think Lebron was holding them back at all. Lebron would have been a great mentor to Ball he just never got on the floor enough.
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Quote from: LaHug on June 20, 2019, 12:51:50 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on June 19, 2019, 11:56:32 PM
Does AD pass up 4M? Time will tell
I think he'll pass it up if he knows that Kawhi or Butler or even Kyrie/Kemba is coming but I don't think he gives it up without being certain it's for another star. LeBron, Rich Paul, and AD will be very much in the loop of all moves going forward, I'm sure of it. That said, I'm currently feeling a very very small chance of getting Kawhi right now but it's my dream scenario (obviously). Before LeBron came, I was in it for the long haul in developing the youth. I was watching every game of BI, Lonzo, Randle, Kuzma, DLo, etc. but now it's about win now. I just hope we don't screw this all up...
If you do screw it up, you can always move onto NOLA, they are going to be fun to watch! :P
If Brooklyn gets Kyrie and gives up DLo to do it, and DLo signs with NOLA, I might genuinely have a second team for the first time in my sporting fandom life. Could you imagine the Lakers young core team + Zion + Pick 4 + Jrue as the key vet? What a team that'd be. (Highly doubt it happens for what it's worth.)
Sounds like Brooklyn might not be keen on Kyrie any more if he can't bring KD with him.
A back court of Lonzo and Jrue would be close to the best defensive back court in the game? Feel like Ingram and Ball will breakout without having the constant pressure of Lebron breathing down their necks. NOLA still need a ring defender when they go big, they should try and trade up to pick 3 to get RJ Barrett next to Zion again.
They need to be healthy i dont think Lebron was holding them back at all. Lebron would have been a great mentor to Ball he just never got on the floor enough.
Not directly, but I'd say 100% his addition to the team would effect any young up and coming star in many possible ways. There would always be pressure on a young player that making a mistake with Lebron in your team would be a big shadow hovering over them all the time.
Reports coming out that Steve Ballmer has paid off the media to talk up the Clippers as a FA destination and, consequently, talk down key competitors (i.e. Lakers and Raptors). Would explain a lot of the shower Woj has been hurling at both franchises.
Quote from: LaHug on June 20, 2019, 08:36:58 PM
Reports coming out that Steve Ballmer has paid off the media to talk up the Clippers as a FA destination and, consequently, talk down key competitors (i.e. Lakers and Raptors). Would explain a lot of the shower Woj has been hurling at both franchises.
ooft
Quote from: Money Shot on June 20, 2019, 04:58:22 PM
Strong reports coming out of Phoenix that Ricky Rubio is the man we want.
Don’t know why we wouldn’t be interested in DeAngelo Russell who I think fits our age demographic a lot better.
If we can get Rubio and not have to pay him too much I think he is a good get.
Woj reporting that Indiana are looking to get Rubio
Phoenix have traded TJ Warren to Indiana, deal won't be finalised until the 6th
Surely we can have a Christmas Day Lakers vs Pelicans match-up, surely! Please!
So now that the Lakers have made space and have 32M it's being reported that Kawhi is a serious contender
Geez I hope this doesn't happen
I can't see it happening, but it's a real possibility now. Toronto, Clips and Lakers in a 3 horse race
People thought KD going to the Warriors was bad, this would be.... wow. It's different because Kawhi isn't chasing his first chip by jumping onto the best team like KD did - Kawhi has proven twice he can do it as the man, but sheesh this would be disastrous lol
Kembbbaaaaaa
Not long now before the flood gates open
Sounding like Kemba to Boston and Kyrie to Brooklyn are near locked, and with Brooklyn getting Kyrie they're now happy to help D Russell get to a team of his choice, and that appears to be the Lakers who are keen too
KD and Kawhi have been in talks apparently too, about pairing up in the future and it looks like it would be either Clippers or Knicks
Plenty of other stuff going on, going to be hectic!
I'd rather the Lakers get other players than DLo. I'd prefer Beverly or Danny Green and Seth Curry.
KD passes up on a 5 yr $221M MAX deal and signs a 4 yr $164M deal with the Nets
Kyrie has signed with Nets too, 4 yr $141M
Deandre Jordan looks to sign with them too
Rozier goes to the Hornets, 3 yr $58M
Harrison Barnes signs 4 yr $85M with the kings
That Rozier deal is one of the worst things I've ever seen. How did Kupchak go from one of the best GMs in the league to signing those Mozgov/Deng deals and now this?!
Julius Randle & Taj Gibson to the Suns, Butler to the Heat.
76ers rolling out a lineup of Simmons, Richardson, Tobias, Horford, Embiid. :o :o :o
When I saw the that we traded Butler for Richardson and signed Horford this was legitimately my reaction
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When I saw the that we traded Butler for Richardson and signed Horford this was legitimately my reaction
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I saw the harris move and though ok a little pricey but at least he is 26. Im ok with Butler leaving now as its clear we are going young. Then we sign Horford at 33 to a 4 year deal. He will be 36/37 at the end and no way of bringing in anyone else.
Must go way into luxury tax to lock in Simmons and will lose Richardson in 2 years so basically need to roll with that big 4.
You're kidding right? Horford and Richardson vs Butler and Reddick is an upgrade in my books, also much better team chemistry with Butler gone which is a huge factor. Richardson is soooooo underrated and is on such a good contract it's unbelievable.
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Quote from: Mat0369 on July 01, 2019, 02:17:10 PM
When I saw the that we traded Butler for Richardson and signed Horford this was legitimately my reaction
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I saw the harris move and though ok a little pricey but at least he is 26. Im ok with Butler leaving now as its clear we are going young. Then we sign Horford at 33 to a 4 year deal. He will be 36/37 at the end and no way of bringing in anyone else.
Must go way into luxury tax to lock in Simmons and will lose Richardson in 2 years so basically need to roll with that big 4.
So your off lebron now?
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Quote from: Holz on July 01, 2019, 02:47:06 PM
Quote from: Mat0369 on July 01, 2019, 02:17:10 PM
When I saw the that we traded Butler for Richardson and signed Horford this was legitimately my reaction
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I saw the harris move and though ok a little pricey but at least he is 26. Im ok with Butler leaving now as its clear we are going young. Then we sign Horford at 33 to a 4 year deal. He will be 36/37 at the end and no way of bringing in anyone else.
Must go way into luxury tax to lock in Simmons and will lose Richardson in 2 years so basically need to roll with that big 4.
So your off lebron now?
never.
I always have a east and west team.
Lakers and Philly
Quote from: jvalles69 on July 01, 2019, 01:14:08 PM
76ers rolling out a lineup of Simmons, Richardson, Tobias, Horford, Embiid. :o :o :o
Not hyped about this line up like most are, main issue is Simmons they can't win anything until he can shoot
Butler deal seems to have fallen through as Dallas has backed out as they weren't getting the 2 players they wanted in the deal, need to find another team for the deal to get done.
Knicks have lost the plot. :o Randle, Portis, Gibson and now Bullock.
Just caught up on all of today's movements
Wow, so much!
I'm with jvalles, I reckon that starting 5 for the Sixers is pretty damn strong
Reddick to NOP surprised me, but their starting 5 is looking pretty exciting now too
Iggy being traded out to Memphis made me sad, but after some of the things he's said recently whilst on his book tour I kind of expected him to be shipped off, but still sad none the less
They apparently didn't even offer Jimmy Buckets 4 years let alone the 5 max. Brand is a clown. If you're going to let Butler walk because you're worried about how he is playing at 34 and 35, why the hell would you offer Al Horford 110 mill over 4 years at 33? He deserves to be fired.
Utah and Indiana looking very nice too
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Quote from: jvalles69 on July 01, 2019, 01:14:08 PM
76ers rolling out a lineup of Simmons, Richardson, Tobias, Horford, Embiid. :o :o :o
Not hyped about this line up like most are, main issue is Simmons they can't win anything until he can shoot
Work in progress he will get there
Love for him to get a jumper this off season but if he brings the boomers a medal, il give him a break next season ;)
No Finals MVPs left at GSW ;D
Quote from: Mat0369 on July 01, 2019, 11:52:32 PM
They apparently didn't even offer Jimmy Buckets 4 years let alone the 5 max. Brand is a clown. If you're going to let Butler walk because you're worried about how he is playing at 34 and 35, why the hell would you offer Al Horford 110 mill over 4 years at 33? He deserves to be fired.
Seems like you're in the minority on this
I'm seeing nothing but praise for Brand and the Sixers now - so many guys in the media tipping them to win the East already regardless of where Kawhi goes, and nothing but praise for the moves they pulled off
Quote from: jvalles69 on July 01, 2019, 05:26:27 PM
Knicks have lost the plot. :o Randle, Portis, Gibson and now Bullock.
And now they've just signed Wayne Ellington to a 2 year 16M deal lol
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on July 02, 2019, 01:35:40 AM
Seems like you're in the minority on this
I'm seeing nothing but praise for Brand and the Sixers now - so many guys in the media tipping them to win the East already regardless of where Kawhi goes, and nothing but praise for the moves they pulled off
Thing is I'm not. 90% of Sixers fans are pissed as well. If they weren't going to give Butler his max, so be it, but the Horford signing is beyond ridiculous at his age and that's where the issue is. They needed an insurance policy and spot starter for Embiid, but 27 mill a year on Horford was not the answer.
Pacers have gotten better, Bucks are still good, Nets once KD gets back are better. If Leonard stays at the Raptors they're still better. Vegas actially had them drop to +1400 odds for the win. The Warriors have better odds at +1100
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Quote from: jvalles69 on July 01, 2019, 05:26:27 PM
Knicks have lost the plot. :o Randle, Portis, Gibson and now Bullock.
And now they've just signed Wayne Ellington to a 2 year 16M deal lol
They have to hit the cap floor. A lot of these two year deals are basically so they have cap room in 2021 when there will be another legit FA class. Not offering KD the max was beyond stupid though
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Knicks have lost the plot. :o Randle, Portis, Gibson and now Bullock.
And now they've just signed Wayne Ellington to a 2 year 16M deal lol
They have to hit the cap floor. A lot of these two year deals are basically so they have cap room in 2021 when there will be another legit FA class. Not offering KD the max was beyond stupid though
Yeah I know, but as long as Dolan is there no star is going to come
He's destroyed the franchise, and the torch has been passed, Brooklyn is officially the number one side in NY now and the Knicks for the first time ever are not the big deal in that city
Having MSG and that stage doesn't mean enough now, they've finally been overtaken. Stephen A is on the money when he said all of this
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Quote from: RaisyDaisy on July 02, 2019, 01:35:40 AM
Seems like you're in the minority on this
I'm seeing nothing but praise for Brand and the Sixers now - so many guys in the media tipping them to win the East already regardless of where Kawhi goes, and nothing but praise for the moves they pulled off
Thing is I'm not. 90% of Sixers fans are pissed as well. If they weren't going to give Butler his max, so be it, but the Horford signing is beyond ridiculous at his age and that's where the issue is. They needed an insurance policy and spot starter for Embiid, but 27 mill a year on Horford was not the answer.
Pacers have gotten better, Bucks are still good, Nets once KD gets back are better. If Leonard stays at the Raptors they're still better. Vegas actially had them drop to +1400 odds for the win. The Warriors have better odds at +1100
Philly no doubt is better next year with horford. They where building a dynasty though, the main postive thing you can say about this move is that horford could bring some maturity to the locker room.
As much as i like horford though its a bad contract he will be 36, 37 at the end of the deal eating up alot of cap space and thats when Philly should be in its prime.
I kinda feel he will be a drag on the organisation at the worst time.
Quote from: Mat0369 on July 01, 2019, 11:52:32 PM
They apparently didn't even offer Jimmy Buckets 4 years let alone the 5 max. Brand is a clown. If you're going to let Butler walk because you're worried about how he is playing at 34 and 35, why the hell would you offer Al Horford 110 mill over 4 years at 33? He deserves to be fired.
How do you know he wasn't causing immense headaches last season and that they just held it together? I'm with Brand jumping off that rollercoaster, idea is to win now, look at a team like OKC who had a longer term plan and then Harden, Ibaka and KD all leave or get traded, you never know when your core is going to break.
As for New York and 2021, please, when's the last time their plans worked post the Ewing era? All of a sudden they are going to sign a massive FA in 2021? Maybe, but noone wants to go there, maybe Giannis.
Quote from: Holz on July 02, 2019, 10:18:17 AMAs much as i like horford though its a bad contract he will be 36, 37 at the end of the deal eating up alot of cap space and thats when Philly should be in its prime.
this is my exact problem with this deal.
They had the players lined up for a decent run for the next few years but now it seems that the team wont be as good in the coming years
Quote from: jvalles69 on July 02, 2019, 11:04:05 AM
Quote from: Mat0369 on July 01, 2019, 11:52:32 PM
They apparently didn't even offer Jimmy Buckets 4 years let alone the 5 max. Brand is a clown. If you're going to let Butler walk because you're worried about how he is playing at 34 and 35, why the hell would you offer Al Horford 110 mill over 4 years at 33? He deserves to be fired.
How do you know he wasn't causing immense headaches last season and that they just held it together? I'm with Brand jumping off that rollercoaster, idea is to win now, look at a team like OKC who had a longer term plan and then Harden, Ibaka and KD all leave or get traded, you never know when your core is going to break.
This, plenty of rumors going around that he was a problem at Wolves, and who's to say that there wont be anything coming out that he was a problem at the 6ers.
Quote from: jvalles69 on July 02, 2019, 11:04:05 AM
As for New York and 2021, please, when's the last time their plans worked post the Ewing era? All of a sudden they are going to sign a massive FA in 2021? Maybe, but noone wants to go there, maybe Giannis.
New York just keep sh!tting on their fans... it doesnt matter that they are a HUGE market, the organization is garbage.
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Quote from: Mat0369 on July 01, 2019, 11:52:32 PM
They apparently didn't even offer Jimmy Buckets 4 years let alone the 5 max. Brand is a clown. If you're going to let Butler walk because you're worried about how he is playing at 34 and 35, why the hell would you offer Al Horford 110 mill over 4 years at 33? He deserves to be fired.
How do you know he wasn't causing immense headaches last season and that they just held it together? I'm with Brand jumping off that rollercoaster, idea is to win now, look at a team like OKC who had a longer term plan and then Harden, Ibaka and KD all leave or get traded, you never know when your core is going to break.
As for New York and 2021, please, when's the last time their plans worked post the Ewing era? All of a sudden they are going to sign a massive FA in 2021? Maybe, but noone wants to go there, maybe Giannis.
I dont mind moving off butler. Realistically as long as they keep Simmons Embiid Harris together they will be fine.
Not sure this was ever a chance but i would have preffered say Bojan Bogdanovic four-year, $73 million deal,
Simmons Richardson Bogdanovic Harris Embiid
now JJ is old but that 2 year window looks strong. Bogdanovic is 30 but an elite shooter and would work alongside reddick.
with Richardson Bogdanovic and Harris out there on the wings they would create alot of space for JoJO and Ben.
all up i still really like the sixers i just prefer the above team.
Just saw an old article where Butler was interviewed and the question was, what's the one piece of clothing you'd never wear? His answer, a Miami Heat jersey hahaha
Seth Curry to Dallas is a nice fit, and GSW have locked in Looney for 3 more years
As for Sixers, best defence in the league now? Would think so. Hopefully Ben can improve and Embiid can stay healthy
Quote from: Holz on July 02, 2019, 11:28:11 AM
Quote from: jvalles69 on July 02, 2019, 11:04:05 AM
Quote from: Mat0369 on July 01, 2019, 11:52:32 PM
They apparently didn't even offer Jimmy Buckets 4 years let alone the 5 max. Brand is a clown. If you're going to let Butler walk because you're worried about how he is playing at 34 and 35, why the hell would you offer Al Horford 110 mill over 4 years at 33? He deserves to be fired.
How do you know he wasn't causing immense headaches last season and that they just held it together? I'm with Brand jumping off that rollercoaster, idea is to win now, look at a team like OKC who had a longer term plan and then Harden, Ibaka and KD all leave or get traded, you never know when your core is going to break.
As for New York and 2021, please, when's the last time their plans worked post the Ewing era? All of a sudden they are going to sign a massive FA in 2021? Maybe, but noone wants to go there, maybe Giannis.
I dont mind moving off butler. Realistically as long as they keep Simmons Embiid Harris together they will be fine.
Not sure this was ever a chance but i would have preffered say Bojan Bogdanovic four-year, $73 million deal,
Simmons Richardson Bogdanovic Harris Embiid
now JJ is old but that 2 year window looks strong. Bogdanovic is 30 but an elite shooter and would work alongside reddick.
with Richardson Bogdanovic and Harris out there on the wings they would create alot of space for JoJO and Ben.
all up i still really like the sixers i just prefer the above team.
Reddick is gone, signed with NOLA.
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Quote from: Holz on July 02, 2019, 11:28:11 AM
Quote from: jvalles69 on July 02, 2019, 11:04:05 AM
Quote from: Mat0369 on July 01, 2019, 11:52:32 PM
They apparently didn't even offer Jimmy Buckets 4 years let alone the 5 max. Brand is a clown. If you're going to let Butler walk because you're worried about how he is playing at 34 and 35, why the hell would you offer Al Horford 110 mill over 4 years at 33? He deserves to be fired.
How do you know he wasn't causing immense headaches last season and that they just held it together? I'm with Brand jumping off that rollercoaster, idea is to win now, look at a team like OKC who had a longer term plan and then Harden, Ibaka and KD all leave or get traded, you never know when your core is going to break.
As for New York and 2021, please, when's the last time their plans worked post the Ewing era? All of a sudden they are going to sign a massive FA in 2021? Maybe, but noone wants to go there, maybe Giannis.
I dont mind moving off butler. Realistically as long as they keep Simmons Embiid Harris together they will be fine.
Not sure this was ever a chance but i would have preffered say Bojan Bogdanovic four-year, $73 million deal,
Simmons Richardson Bogdanovic Harris Embiid
now JJ is old but that 2 year window looks strong. Bogdanovic is 30 but an elite shooter and would work alongside reddick.
with Richardson Bogdanovic and Harris out there on the wings they would create alot of space for JoJO and Ben.
all up i still really like the sixers i just prefer the above team.
Reddick is gone, signed with NOLA.
i know but probably could have kept him if they went Bogdanovic over Horford given the price difference in the two.
Quote from: Holz on July 02, 2019, 11:55:47 AM
Quote from: jvalles69 on July 02, 2019, 11:53:56 AM
Quote from: Holz on July 02, 2019, 11:28:11 AM
Quote from: jvalles69 on July 02, 2019, 11:04:05 AM
Quote from: Mat0369 on July 01, 2019, 11:52:32 PM
They apparently didn't even offer Jimmy Buckets 4 years let alone the 5 max. Brand is a clown. If you're going to let Butler walk because you're worried about how he is playing at 34 and 35, why the hell would you offer Al Horford 110 mill over 4 years at 33? He deserves to be fired.
How do you know he wasn't causing immense headaches last season and that they just held it together? I'm with Brand jumping off that rollercoaster, idea is to win now, look at a team like OKC who had a longer term plan and then Harden, Ibaka and KD all leave or get traded, you never know when your core is going to break.
As for New York and 2021, please, when's the last time their plans worked post the Ewing era? All of a sudden they are going to sign a massive FA in 2021? Maybe, but noone wants to go there, maybe Giannis.
I dont mind moving off butler. Realistically as long as they keep Simmons Embiid Harris together they will be fine.
Not sure this was ever a chance but i would have preffered say Bojan Bogdanovic four-year, $73 million deal,
Simmons Richardson Bogdanovic Harris Embiid
now JJ is old but that 2 year window looks strong. Bogdanovic is 30 but an elite shooter and would work alongside reddick.
with Richardson Bogdanovic and Harris out there on the wings they would create alot of space for JoJO and Ben.
all up i still really like the sixers i just prefer the above team.
Reddick is gone, signed with NOLA.
i know but probably could have kept him if they went Bogdanovic over Horford given the price difference in the two.
Gotcha, Horford will provide the high IQ at the PF position that Embiid was left to do and kinda failed at, now Horford can take over that role.
Apparently they did offer Butler the max after all and he wanted to go to Miami anyway.
Quote from: LaHug on July 02, 2019, 12:55:03 PM
Apparently they did offer Butler the max after all and he wanted to go to Miami anyway.
Also heard that Wade said he may come out of retirement if Miami signed Butler.
Anyone put any money on Lakers for the title? I got on yesterday at $4, odds are coming in now so it's looking more and more likely that Kawhi will be a Laker, I look forward to cashing out.
Boogie in talks with Miami and Boston.
Quote from: jvalles69 on July 02, 2019, 11:04:05 AM
How do you know he wasn't causing immense headaches last season and that they just held it together? I'm with Brand jumping off that rollercoaster, idea is to win now, look at a team like OKC who had a longer term plan and then Harden, Ibaka and KD all leave or get traded, you never know when your core is going to break.
As for New York and 2021, please, when's the last time their plans worked post the Ewing era? All of a sudden they are going to sign a massive FA in 2021? Maybe, but noone wants to go there, maybe Giannis.
Because the only negative talk around Butler was that he had the argument with Brett Brown with how he was being used. Brown played it off as a pretty normal player coach interaction saying it was overblown and the consensus is that Butler was right with his issues.
There was also the reports that if Brown stayed as the coach Butler wanted out, but after the playoffs everyone was on board because of how it played out with Jimmy being the reserve point instead of TJ. It's not a Wolves situation where he was pissed off with KAT and Wiggins for being lazy and not wanting to win or Thibs running him into the ground. He looked to have a great relationship with both Simmons and Embiid.
There are two issues here, one you knew what you were getting when you traded for Butler, why move the assets in that trade for him if you had no intention of signing him knowing the potential headache he could cause. Two if you're worried about how he plays at 34 and 35, why the hell would you offer Al Horford so much money at 33?
Quote from: Keeper27 on July 02, 2019, 11:11:26 AM
this is my exact problem with this deal.
They had the players lined up for a decent run for the next few years but now it seems that the team wont be as good in the coming years
This, plenty of rumors going around that he was a problem at Wolves, and who's to say that there wont be anything coming out that he was a problem at the 6ers.
Embiid's prime is probably the next 3 seasons. That's your window to win, so you want to surround him with as much talent as possible to make a push. You're looking for guys in their prime like Harris.
Wolves and Sixers were different situations, as someone that has been critical of Butler he showed nothing but class and leadership through the playoffs. He set the perfect example for the young guys to go out there with the way he played on the court.
Quote from: LaHug on July 02, 2019, 12:55:03 PM
Apparently they did offer Butler the max after all and he wanted to go to Miami anyway.
The only report of that happening was via Philly Voice and it's likely the Sixers using him as a mouthpiece to change the narrative. All other sources said if Philly offered the 5 year max that Butler would stay. Woj and Windhorst said they didn't even offer him 4 years and the worry was the mileage on his legs at ages 34 and 35 and not being able to move that contract.
There is a guy on RealGM boards that has ties within the Sixers organisation. Most appear to think he is tied to Embiid because he was able to break news on Embiid before anyone else. He called this all prior to FA and said that the 5th year was a sticking point. Woj and Windhorst came out a few days later with this exact statement.
Also if someone is looking for a Twitter account to follow, check the date
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Lakers can actually field 5 players now lol
Dudley signed for 1 year
The suspense is killing me...
Quote from: jvalles69 on July 03, 2019, 01:20:30 PM
The suspense is killing me...
Sounding like it could be be another 24-48 hours, but it's really anyone's guess at this stage - nobody knows
Geez I hope he either stays in Toronto or goes to the Clippers
It's gotten to the point now where I'm either going to be extremely happy or really disappointed. If he'd announced it in the first day and it wasn't the Lakers, I'd have been fine. But this dragging on as much as it has means I'm now way too emotionally invested. Only the Lakers and Tigers can ever get me like this (although I'll recover more quickly than if something bad happened to the Tigers).
Summer League today at 11:30am is Knicks (RJ) vs NOP (Zion)
Will have a look at that
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Holy crap. This is huge. Especially the PG part
Thank flower it wasn’t the Lakers, don’t think I would’ve bothered watching much if he did, plus most Lakers’ fans have been cancer lately.
Thank you Kawhi for the championship, go kill it in Cali! :-*
From Woj
The Clippers are sending the Thunder four unprotected first-round picks, one protected first-round pick and two pick swaps, league sources tell ESPN. Those picks go to OKC with Gallinari and SGA.
From Charania
Rival NBA teams have been aware of the discontent of OKC's two stars: Paul George -- and Russell Westbrook, league sources tell @TheAthleticNBA @Stadium. Leonard pushed the Clippers in recent days to deliver him a second star, and they did.
The George news is bigger for me than the Leonard signing
Wow, the PG13 news was certainly unexpected
PG13 is one of my favourites, so to see him and Kawhi end up together, with the likes of Beverley and Lou Williams - I'm not going to be a bandwagoner, but geez it's going to be hard to not support them!
Quote from: TomK on July 06, 2019, 05:28:21 PM
Thank flower it wasn’t the Lakers, don’t think I would’ve bothered watching much if he did, plus most Lakers’ fans have been cancer lately.
Thank you Kawhi for the championship, go kill it in Cali! :-*
+1 to all of that, well said
Woj: Free agent guard Danny Green will sign a two-year, $30M deal with the Los Angeles Lakers, league source tells ESPN.
Lakers will also sign Boogie and be a middle of the road playoff team at best. Boogie/AD doesn't work, Green is old and a bench piece for a contender next year. They gave him 15 mill.
And the Lakers sign Boogie and Rondo. It's the Pelicans with LeBron instead of Jrue
Quote from: Mat0369 on July 07, 2019, 02:16:21 PM
And the Lakers sign Boogie and Rondo. It's the Pelicans with LeBron instead of Jrue
I'm just glad to see Caruso got re-signed!
Sounding like OKC and Westbrook are in talks now too - with George now out they're no chance to win the West, and with the haul of youth and picks they've now got it does make sense to move Rus on and free up all that cap space too
Will be very interested to see how that plays out, if it does at al
Haha!
https://youtu.be/NYOA5XEkveA
Quote from: Mat0369 on July 06, 2019, 05:50:21 PM
Lakers will also sign Boogie and be a middle of the road playoff team at best. Boogie/AD doesn't work, Green is old and a bench piece for a contender next year. They gave him 15 mill.
Boogie and AD did work before boogie got injured.
Green isnt that old he is 1 year older then Curry. He ideally would be coming off the bench but a 3 and D player is more then handy.
i think last year they where a middle of the road playoff team if they stayed healthy.
its basically Lonzo Ingram Zubac to Davis Green Boogie Bradley Cook Dudley
thats a huge upgrade.
Quote from: Holz on July 10, 2019, 10:52:52 AM
Quote from: Mat0369 on July 06, 2019, 05:50:21 PM
Lakers will also sign Boogie and be a middle of the road playoff team at best. Boogie/AD doesn't work, Green is old and a bench piece for a contender next year. They gave him 15 mill.
Boogie and AD did work before boogie got injured.
Green isnt that old he is 1 year older then Curry. He ideally would be coming off the bench but a 3 and D player is more then handy.
i think last year they where a middle of the road playoff team if they stayed healthy.
its basically Lonzo Ingram Zubac to Davis Green Boogie Bradley Cook Dudley
thats a huge upgrade.
I agree, I think this puts Lakers in the front of the pack now. Clippers have the best 2 way wing duo now since MJ and Pippen, but it's all going to come down to who can stay healthy between these 2 days. AD, Boogie, PG and Kawhi have all missed huge chunks of seasons due to injuries, last season was the first season we saw Lebron start breaking down. It's going to take a whole lot of luck at playoff time.
Boogie and AD failed miserably. They weren't a playoff team with those two, they went on a run when Boogie got injured and knocked off the Blazers off the back of the AD/Jrue combo.
The Lakers roster is constructed poorly and they aren't better than the Clippers. The Nuggets, Rockets, Blazers and even Warriors when Klay gets back are arguably all better.
Quote from: Mat0369 on July 10, 2019, 01:35:27 PM
Boogie and AD failed miserably. They weren't a playoff team with those two, they went on a run when Boogie got injured and knocked off the Blazers off the back of the AD/Jrue combo.
The Lakers roster is constructed poorly and they aren't better than the Clippers. The Nuggets, Rockets, Blazers and even Warriors when Klay gets back are arguably all better.
You may be right, but all teams still need a guy who can takeover a game AND hit a game winning shot come finals, there aren't many of them around. The regular season is 1 thing, but the finals are next level.
Top level: Lebron, Kawhi, Curry, KD, Kyrie
Next level: Lillard, PG13, Harden, Klay
76ers don't have one, Bucks don't have one, Nuggets don't have one. Someone asked me who wins the East this past season before the play offs began and I said only Toronto or Boston because only Kawhi or Kyrie can takeover in the finals AND hit a game winner.
So, with a bit of time since it happened, does anyone else think Kawhi and PG's moves are actually a bit dirty? Kawhi clearly never planned on signing with the Lakers and just kept them hanging to hurt FA signings. Kawhi actively getting a contracted player, one who still had three years remaining on his contract, to force his way out. PG saying he had unfinished business with the Thunder, signs a 4 year contract, gets another first round exit, and forces his way out.
I'm obviously not the same as the LA-based Lakers fans in that I don't actively hate the Clippers. However, after this offseason, I'll be barracking against them and hard. Both players seem snakey to me.
Quote from: jvalles69 on July 10, 2019, 01:45:05 PM
You may be right, but all teams still need a guy who can takeover a game AND hit a game winning shot come finals, there aren't many of them around. The regular season is 1 thing, but the finals are next level.
Top level: Lebron, Kawhi, Curry, KD, Kyrie
Next level: Lillard, PG13, Harden, Klay
76ers don't have one, Bucks don't have one, Nuggets don't have one. Someone asked me who wins the East this past season before the play offs began and I said only Toronto or Boston because only Kawhi or Kyrie can takeover in the finals AND hit a game winner.
This is one of the reasons I didn't like letting Butler go. He was the closer on the 6'ers. It is something they lacked and one of the main reasons they lost to Boston the year before. They didn't have anyone to take that last second shot. Right now they expect Harris to step up into that role and between him and Embiid they are the two they will rely on to close out games. Bucks will back in Giannis and it's between those two teams in the east right now.
When you look at someone like KD, he lost a finals series and they had that playoff loss to the Warriors before he jumped ship. It takes years for some guys to get that edge and some never do. The Clippers arguably have three in George, Leonard and Lou Williams. Right now if you're looking at guys that take the last shot for the teams I mentioned, here they are
Warriors - Curry/Klay
Blazers - Dame
Rockets - Harden
Clippers - Leonard, Geroge, Williams
Nuggets - Murray/Jokic
One team I actually forgot about was the Jazz. They're a beast team defensively, added Conley and Bogdonovic and have Donovan Mitchell to close out games for them.
Yep, I forgot Utah too, adding Conley was huge, they'll go under the radar all season.
Until Giannis can rely on his jump shot, they might make it to the final dance, but I can't see them winning anything without a closer.
Jokic and Murray aren't yet in the same category as the other guys you mentioned, they both need some consistency which they will get eventually as they are the least experienced.
LAHug, you're a Lakers fan right, of course you're going to think it's dirty, they held you to ransom till Kawhi made his deicision, fair play, they're going to be competing in the West! Is it dirty that Lakers were tampering with PG13 originally and AD later on, yep. I get what you're saying, but maybe OKC had decided they were going to break it up with all the other moves going on. PG left yeah, but OKC prob got one of the greatest trade hauls in history, I'm sure they're not bothered and now they rebuild.
The question has to be raised.
If the game is on the line in the playoffs is Curry really Top Level.
Id argue id rather Jimmy Butler then Steph Curry going on past evidence.
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The question has to be raised.
If the game is on the line in the playoffs is Curry really Top Level.
Id argue id rather Jimmy Butler then Steph Curry going on past evidence.
I was actually going to say that about Curry, he hits big shots, but not at big times although he's always a legit threat.
Regardless of all our opinions, I'm pumped for this upcoming season! Looking forward to seeing how dominant Kawhi and PG13 can be next to each other on both ends of the court. I hope they both stay healthy and we see some MJ/Pippen level stuff.
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LAHug, you're a Lakers fan right, of course you're going to think it's dirty, they held you to ransom till Kawhi made his deicision, fair play, they're going to be competing in the West! Is it dirty that Lakers were tampering with PG13 originally and AD later on, yep. I get what you're saying, but maybe OKC had decided they were going to break it up with all the other moves going on. PG left yeah, but OKC prob got one of the greatest trade hauls in history, I'm sure they're not bothered and now they rebuild.
I guess I'm annoyed that everyone says Lakers are dirty with how they did the Pelicans but nobody's saying the same for the Clippers. And yeah, I'm particularly annoyed about Kawhi holding us to ransom. Quickly gone from a player I loved on the Raptors to a player I hope fails. I guess that's the emotion of sport.
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Quote from: jvalles69 on July 10, 2019, 04:13:02 PM
LAHug, you're a Lakers fan right, of course you're going to think it's dirty, they held you to ransom till Kawhi made his deicision, fair play, they're going to be competing in the West! Is it dirty that Lakers were tampering with PG13 originally and AD later on, yep. I get what you're saying, but maybe OKC had decided they were going to break it up with all the other moves going on. PG left yeah, but OKC prob got one of the greatest trade hauls in history, I'm sure they're not bothered and now they rebuild.
I guess I'm annoyed that everyone says Lakers are dirty with how they did the Pelicans but nobody's saying the same for the Clippers. And yeah, I'm particularly annoyed about Kawhi holding us to ransom. Quickly gone from a player I loved on the Raptors to a player I hope fails. I guess that's the emotion of sport.
Would you really be happy if Kawhi joined the Lakers to make an unbeatable super team? Wouldn't that feel a bit shallow? If you guys win the title this year it would feel a hell of a lot better being on even grounds.
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Quote from: jvalles69 on July 10, 2019, 04:13:02 PM
LAHug, you're a Lakers fan right, of course you're going to think it's dirty, they held you to ransom till Kawhi made his deicision, fair play, they're going to be competing in the West! Is it dirty that Lakers were tampering with PG13 originally and AD later on, yep. I get what you're saying, but maybe OKC had decided they were going to break it up with all the other moves going on. PG left yeah, but OKC prob got one of the greatest trade hauls in history, I'm sure they're not bothered and now they rebuild.
I guess I'm annoyed that everyone says Lakers are dirty with how they did the Pelicans but nobody's saying the same for the Clippers. And yeah, I'm particularly annoyed about Kawhi holding us to ransom. Quickly gone from a player I loved on the Raptors to a player I hope fails. I guess that's the emotion of sport.
Would you really be happy if Kawhi joined the Lakers to make an unbeatable super team? Wouldn't that feel a bit shallow? If you guys win the title this year it would feel a hell of a lot better being on even grounds.
True
But id rather he was never an option. Then we could have got even better role players. Wish we had reddick lopez etc..
Lets be honest the pg13 okc thing was far worse. He just signed a deal and had a party last year and is in a good organisation. AD has wasted away in NO and should have left years ago.
Its all down to lebron and la hate
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LAHug, you're a Lakers fan right, of course you're going to think it's dirty, they held you to ransom till Kawhi made his deicision, fair play, they're going to be competing in the West! Is it dirty that Lakers were tampering with PG13 originally and AD later on, yep. I get what you're saying, but maybe OKC had decided they were going to break it up with all the other moves going on. PG left yeah, but OKC prob got one of the greatest trade hauls in history, I'm sure they're not bothered and now they rebuild.
I guess I'm annoyed that everyone says Lakers are dirty with how they did the Pelicans but nobody's saying the same for the Clippers. And yeah, I'm particularly annoyed about Kawhi holding us to ransom. Quickly gone from a player I loved on the Raptors to a player I hope fails. I guess that's the emotion of sport.
Would you really be happy if Kawhi joined the Lakers to make an unbeatable super team? Wouldn't that feel a bit shallow? If you guys win the title this year it would feel a hell of a lot better being on even grounds.
True
But id rather he was never an option. Then we could have got even better role players. Wish we had reddick lopez etc..
Lets be honest the pg13 okc thing was far worse. He just signed a deal and had a party last year and is in a good organisation. AD has wasted away in NO and should have left years ago.
Its all down to lebron and la hate
Would you have gotten good role players though? Lebron has been known to bring in his friends, not that I think that is a bad thing, I think you need guys who Lebron is comfortable with, but how much better would it be if he had players that fit next to him, doubt that ever happens even if Kawhi was off the table.
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LAHug, you're a Lakers fan right, of course you're going to think it's dirty, they held you to ransom till Kawhi made his deicision, fair play, they're going to be competing in the West! Is it dirty that Lakers were tampering with PG13 originally and AD later on, yep. I get what you're saying, but maybe OKC had decided they were going to break it up with all the other moves going on. PG left yeah, but OKC prob got one of the greatest trade hauls in history, I'm sure they're not bothered and now they rebuild.
I guess I'm annoyed that everyone says Lakers are dirty with how they did the Pelicans but nobody's saying the same for the Clippers. And yeah, I'm particularly annoyed about Kawhi holding us to ransom. Quickly gone from a player I loved on the Raptors to a player I hope fails. I guess that's the emotion of sport.
Would you really be happy if Kawhi joined the Lakers to make an unbeatable super team? Wouldn't that feel a bit shallow? If you guys win the title this year it would feel a hell of a lot better being on even grounds.
True
But id rather he was never an option. Then we could have got even better role players. Wish we had reddick lopez etc..
Lets be honest the pg13 okc thing was far worse. He just signed a deal and had a party last year and is in a good organisation. AD has wasted away in NO and should have left years ago.
Its all down to lebron and la hate
Would you have gotten good role players though? Lebron has been known to bring in his friends, not that I think that is a bad thing, I think you need guys who Lebron is comfortable with, but how much better would it be if he had players that fit next to him, doubt that ever happens even if Kawhi was off the table.
Lebron needs experienced shooters and defenders.
In fairness Lebron teams rarely have cap space or assets to trade so they cant pick up the best guys on the market. I dont buy into this Lebron brings in his friends. Whats probably more accurate is Lebron teams rarely have any assets and then they pick up guys who want to play with Lebron on the cheap.
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Quote from: jvalles69 on July 10, 2019, 04:13:02 PM
LAHug, you're a Lakers fan right, of course you're going to think it's dirty, they held you to ransom till Kawhi made his deicision, fair play, they're going to be competing in the West! Is it dirty that Lakers were tampering with PG13 originally and AD later on, yep. I get what you're saying, but maybe OKC had decided they were going to break it up with all the other moves going on. PG left yeah, but OKC prob got one of the greatest trade hauls in history, I'm sure they're not bothered and now they rebuild.
I guess I'm annoyed that everyone says Lakers are dirty with how they did the Pelicans but nobody's saying the same for the Clippers. And yeah, I'm particularly annoyed about Kawhi holding us to ransom. Quickly gone from a player I loved on the Raptors to a player I hope fails. I guess that's the emotion of sport.
Would you really be happy if Kawhi joined the Lakers to make an unbeatable super team? Wouldn't that feel a bit shallow? If you guys win the title this year it would feel a hell of a lot better being on even grounds.
A ring is a ring. I'd be happy if my team won as an unbeatable super team :P
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LAHug, you're a Lakers fan right, of course you're going to think it's dirty, they held you to ransom till Kawhi made his deicision, fair play, they're going to be competing in the West! Is it dirty that Lakers were tampering with PG13 originally and AD later on, yep. I get what you're saying, but maybe OKC had decided they were going to break it up with all the other moves going on. PG left yeah, but OKC prob got one of the greatest trade hauls in history, I'm sure they're not bothered and now they rebuild.
I guess I'm annoyed that everyone says Lakers are dirty with how they did the Pelicans but nobody's saying the same for the Clippers. And yeah, I'm particularly annoyed about Kawhi holding us to ransom. Quickly gone from a player I loved on the Raptors to a player I hope fails. I guess that's the emotion of sport.
Would you really be happy if Kawhi joined the Lakers to make an unbeatable super team? Wouldn't that feel a bit shallow? If you guys win the title this year it would feel a hell of a lot better being on even grounds.
A ring is a ring. I'd be happy if my team won as an unbeatable super team :P
A ring is a ring. Id rather a ring without Kawhii but id take a ring with kawhii over no ring.
speaking as a Lebron fan not a Lakers fan.
Westbrook traded for CP3. :o :o :o
Now that I've picked myself off the floor...as crazy as it looks on paper, Rockets probably needed to do something to go one more step forward and Westbrook is an upgrade on CP3 without changing anything else. Wonder if Russ can defer to Harden when the games on the line?
2 of the highest usage players of all time next to each other, wow.
So many ways this can go. Westbrook prob could have gone to the East and been a God, but this prob does bring him closer than any east team to winning the championship? Harden and Westbrook are prob more durable than AD, Boogie, Kawhi and PG13 so the West may just come down to who stays healthy! :o
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Now that I've picked myself off the floor...as crazy as it looks on paper, Rockets probably needed to do something to go one more step forward and Westbrook is an upgrade on CP3 without changing anything else. Wonder if Russ can defer to Harden when the games on the line?
2 of the highest usage players of all time next to each other, wow.
So many ways this can go. Westbrook prob could have gone to the East and been a God, but this prob does bring him closer than any east team to winning the championship? Harden and Westbrook are prob more durable than AD, Boogie, Kawhi and PG13 so the West may just come down to who stays healthy! :o
I don't mind the move seeing as he and Harden have played together already, but yeah I expected Rus to end up in the East so it's certainly a surprise
Rumour says OKC plans on keeping CP3 which I can't understand, especially with his contract. Surely not
flower I can't wait for this season to start!
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Quote from: jvalles69 on July 12, 2019, 12:39:25 PM
Now that I've picked myself off the floor...as crazy as it looks on paper, Rockets probably needed to do something to go one more step forward and Westbrook is an upgrade on CP3 without changing anything else. Wonder if Russ can defer to Harden when the games on the line?
2 of the highest usage players of all time next to each other, wow.
So many ways this can go. Westbrook prob could have gone to the East and been a God, but this prob does bring him closer than any east team to winning the championship? Harden and Westbrook are prob more durable than AD, Boogie, Kawhi and PG13 so the West may just come down to who stays healthy! :o
I don't mind the move seeing as he and Harden have played together already, but yeah I expected Rus to end up in the East so it's certainly a surprise
Rumour says OKC plans on keeping CP3 which I can't understand, especially with his contract. Surely not
flower I can't wait for this season to start!
I'd say they might keep him for a year, he knows the city, he's played there before and the people like, did lots of community work too. I'd expect him though to get traded to a contender during the year...can Lakers trade for him at some point? That's a good fit.
Surprise surprise, Simmons "in doubt" to play for Australia now
He won't play. He isn't going to risk injury with the extension the 6'ers just offered him and he needs to work on his jump shot which he can't do if he is committing to a meaningless competition that they won't win anyway.
With how wide open the NBA is next year I don't expect any of the legit NBA stars to go and I'd expect it to be a lot of second tier guys. Looking at the squad I'd say these guys are your probably your roster.
Harrison Barnes
Bradley Beal
Andre Drummond
Eric Gordon
Kyle Kuzma
Kevin Love
Kyle Lowry
CJ McCollum
Khris Middleton
Paul Millsap
Donovan Mitchell
Jayson Tatum
P. J. Tucker
Myles Turner
Kemba Walker
Only reason I can see Kemba and Tatum playing is so they can build some chemistry. Guys like Barnes and Middleton just received their payday. I can also see maybe Harris playing for that reason. Milsap might play since he has some rust due to injury last season. And they will still win the competition with that team. Kuzma and Mitchell will only go as they're younger guys.
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