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OnTheRocks: If Carrots can nullify Danger then i'll be happy
DrewMartin: Yes Eddie does
bert1: Game not even started those tags in the locker rooms?
dezza33: lets go rowe, gibbs, danger!
Demons15: I have 2 players in this game...one is tagging the other -.-
buddyboyz: need thompson to score more than sloane
Sydney Goodes: Dangerfield at Full Forward!
Sydney Goodes: Dangerfield injured hamstring
Milney1234: thought thompson was suspended?!?
OnTheRocks: i love you Carrots
DrewMartin: tough call for kerridge - tagging murphy and gibbs
m_zulian: where is robbon playing? is he tagging forward?
DirtyDawn: true SydneyGoodes???
GoCrowz98: Is anyone else that is watching this game on Foxfooty getting a distortion noise in the background?
m_zulian: is robbo playing a tagging forward role?
frieswthat: @gocrowz yes its showerhouse
Sydney14: first time my opponant has Tex and he starts killing it :/
hoddo: Walker (adel) being carried off
tracygrims: tex walker, ACL probably..
Bort: muppet for anyone who kept robbo
slip: looks like walker might be out for the season... looks like ACL
gwsfevs: Tex tomb
buddyboyz: walker subbed
slip: looks like walker gone for the season
slip: hpw many players with ACLs this year geez only round 5
moppy: Its more than just a knee knock, its probably hyperextended or something
buddyboyz: tombstone for walker
DrewMartin: This website is more stuffed every week - get a proper website built M0nty
gwsfevs: Ch7 said tex just a strain not acl
buddyboyz: is anyone else finding this site very slow?
lovesbud: DrewMartin and buddyboyz, this site is slow rubbish..
DirtyDawn: HP coaches a lot to answer for I think. Bodies cant cope with the muscle mass, therefore ACL injuries increase
Special K: DrewMartin - too true. amateur at its best.
Bort: stay down robbo :D
J.Worrall: "significant strain" reported by abc from the club
catdog: Name a better site or even better go there you pack of whingers.
Dicko: You guys don't like the free site, bugger off elsewhere.
wadaramus: Yeah, flower off you FF haters.
DrewMartin: Dont get me wrong - the content is great - but the whole website needs to be rebuilt to handle the traffic
tracygrims: walker out for at least 12 weeks if its PCL, but looks like ACL
DBerbatov9: Sam Jacobs -_-
chadwick: Useless hack Robinson. Butchering the footy
Wheel74: Im glad i never picked WALKER
#9dees: no tex no adelaide?
Special K: DrewMartin - not just the traffic, the site in general needs an overhaul.
buddyboyz: we're not saying that we hate this site we're saying this site is very slow atm
Cac u: fanfooty did an acl lol
Grommet66: C'mon Kerridge lift mate
buddyboyz: oh wait it just sped up for me all is good ;)
Sydney14: Cmon Brown lift mate
korza: Jenkins thx for the $ now your gone
pants42: cmon rowe get some touches
Wheel74: PENDELS is my Vice Captain & threw the captain on CURRIE my opponent has ABLETT as Captain, should iROCKLIFF as Captain
lovesbud: The site isnt free... advertising is a big business.
Cac u: you're*
DirtyDawn: dont change a thing Monty. The rustic charm of this site is what keeps me coming back
chadwick: Grommet66 kerridge is tagging. Will always struggle to score
#9dees: no wheels
wadaramus: If it wasn't for blow in diksaklickers like Special K the website would be fine.
DrewMartin: None of the adds are even showing for me - happy days
Dicko: @lovesbud - Free for you
Wheel74: Jenkins will still score around 60 to 70
Iron Price: Cmon Roweboat
korza: Jenkins you fat flower, get up
BFAsh: thompson SC anyone??
DrewMartin: jenkins will now be double teamed without walker
Special K: wadaramus - man i've been using this site for years. not really sure why to be honest.
Wheel74: I traded out JENKINS and got LEUENBURGER before his price went up and gained $60,000
Dicko: @Wheels74 - depend on how much you need a possible extra 25 points # worth the risk?
MudDawg: What ads? adblocker.
Special K: i used to supply stats to this site.
korza: Wheel give yr self a medal
cohzee: i disable adblock here. good site to support
Affliction: Could be trading Wright out this week.... LIFT
slip: luke btown in the rooms!
aceballa: hooray i can finally get onto the site again haha.
wadaramus: Coz it's a good site and even if it struggles sometimes we still like it!
Moondog21: k
itsduftime: good work lucas :)
Dragon88: Rowe is struggling
Fonz99: at least 45 before half gibbs cmon mate
korza: My s/c opp has Tex, i have Jenkins. even i'm thinking
old_shepp: Any chance of getting a touch Rowe?
Mash: The site is still faster and better than the afl site that's why you're here
Iron Price: It's a great site, where else can you vent your DT rage amongst like minded fans.
aceballa: hey m0nty, have you figured out whats causing these meltdowns or is it just high traffic/random bugs
MudDawg: @cohzee Do you click on them though, that's the only way mOnty makes any $
J.Worrall: gibbs lifts - nice job fonz!
Sydney14: Cmon Brown heal up fast mate
Fonz99: cheers bryce haha
wadaramus: Word up Iron Price. FF is our site.
HEckert: umprires are shower
Iron Price: Get on the scorecard Rowe, Rutten is short, old and slow.
ebol: Rowe is gonna kill me here... shoulda went Neade
Iron Price: Yes, Rowe just needed some motivation
Fernyys: go blues
korza: Petrenko tagging Walker, hmm why bother. Check the scores
Wends: Yep also had Rowe on ahead of Mayes/Neade. Hopefully won't regret too much...
Grommet66: Do so,etching Kerridge you flowering dumb shower you're an asshole of a footy player hope you get omitted you crab
DBerbatov9: wow sam jacobs is joke -_- whats happened to him
gwsfevs: Grommet u were baggin Hutchins in other game think its your fault for relying on 2nd gamers
J.Worrall: no tippett, no crows. no buy crows players in dt/sc
bert1: well seen kerride will prob trade i mayes 2morrow get danger in the guts
jamesprice: mclean is pre cheap atm
hoddo: Happy with Gibbs (55) and Garlett (50). Rowe (28) a bit disappointing but he's on my bench
cougar37: Has Tom Hawkins late withdrawal been confirmed?
whitsy: pittard out
Sophie;): Who's monty?
Dangeroo: walker lti means hartigan will get elevated, if adelaide wants, however mckernan will probably play now
J.Worrall: tombstoe walker, 6 to 10 weeks, PCL
wadaramus: m0nty
J.Worrall: m0nty is as m0nty does
linusp: anyone know subs for wce - port yet?
J.Worrall: gibbs subbed
Woodie: Gibbs subbed
hoddo: Hawkins ad Pittard out? Now I get Stevenson and Dwyer (38) instead of them and my opponent gets Stevenson instead of a 0
bert1: one hour to 30 mins before the game @ linesup
gwsfevs: Gibbs sub
dezza33: oh why gibbs
Fonz99: why gibbs, whyyyy
masterhc2: is there anyone on here that doesn't have gibbs though
Woodie: Don't care, all my opp have him
BoredSaint: i hope carlton lose for subbing off gibbs
HEckert: petrenko gun
Bort: hope crows win now
joelyboy04: mick wanted to flower with our dream teams for fun
Demons15: Was going for a personal best in Dream Team this week and now Mick has ruined it.
hoddo: Gibbs in 51.9% of teams so plenty don't have him
mdon11: Gibbs subbed is bad if you have him in draft....like I do -.-
Keza41: called my opp stupid for not having gibbs just before...
bert1: stuff mick go crows and danger
wadaramus: Good spud m0nty
cougar37: @boredsaint - Spot on. Unless there is something wrong with him, the arrogance of it should bite them on the a$$.
.MorgioH.: lord morgioh
korza: Gibbs = Mick's had enough with the soft cock
masterhc2: gibbs is in the rooms might actually be injured...
Fonz99: far out, personal best has been swiped by mick
Wends: Gibbs carrying any niggles? He's not on bench.
jayrox: gibbs was limping late in 2nd qtr - looked like a groin
flowerchaiyya: bort ya little germ I want Adelaide to win ya little Jerk
masterhc2: wow great goal scotland
RayPest: did mick forget to take his pills?
HEckert: gibbs surely injured
flowerchaiyya: flower you
WizMan: What the flower Kerridge, you're going backwards u cow
hoddo: Of course he must be injured . A player of that quality wouldn't be subbed at half time otherwise
Ferog: Kerridge must have just caught Gibbs high in the rooms.
RayPest: gibbs getting tagged from the bench
J.Worrall: kerridge tagging Judd - doing a great job.
flowerchaiyya: Lift danger ya little turd
masterhc2: lol suprised about all the hacks complaining about gibbs - relax anyone decent will have him too
korza: Kerridge 3 votes, kept Gibbs to 54
RayPest: both opponents have gibbs aswell as me, so im not too bothered
Wheel74: GIBBS must have some injury because they wouldn't sub him off that early, would love to know the problem.
spiggs: jumping off gibbs, he's been greatly over rated
cougar37: Tom Hawkins out, Cam Guthrie in for Geelong. Subs: Hunt (Geelong) and Macrae (WB).
masterhc2: murphy you are an absolute gun
quekkie: flower power shower
Wheel74: GIBBS hasn't been overated at all, he has played awesome so far.
buddyboyz: cmon thompson dont slip away
hardballge: Spud for Mick???
Wends: Murphy making up for having Rowe on field!
korza: The Robbo owners love Mick
colin wood: Douglas a roughy for the Crows B&F
Changeling: ffs rowe lift!!!
Grasscutta: dont care about gibbs this week but bet he gets next week off against gws
spiggs: the game that killed everybody
stew42: Anyone in the top 80k should have Gibbs, so not too fussed about that. God, I love Murphy!
masterhc2: ffs robbo 17 possies only 48 pts kick the thing and get some cheap marks
daniel87: whats wrong with gibss?
hardballge: Spud for you mOnty
Hadouken: rowe = hack
buddyboyz: carlton have melbourne next not gws Grasscutta
korza: Gibbs > Scotland, no mucking around
colin wood: Lift a littl please Kane Lucas
mdon11: TV just said that they suspect an injury to gibbs that happened late in the 2nd.
hoddo: @Stew42 .. The team coming 10th overall doesn't have Gibbs
buddyboyz: and he probably will play
hardballge: No doubt something is wrong with Gibbs, what planet you guys from?
oldfart: cum on thompson you spud
wolfheart: wtf malthouse. Some coaches just hate fantasy footy.
Moondog21: I don't have Gibbs, don't rate him.
Keza41: gibbs looks fine ...
colin wood: with moondog, soft as butter is Gibbs
HEckert: umpires are flowered
johnkay: Holding the ball
hardballge: Give it up Hoddo you tool, he said should and what about the rest of the top 10 muppet
Affliction: jenkins robbed of a goal
GoCrowz98: This umpiring has been shocking for the Crows!!
catdog: You're a joke then Moondog
hardballge: @moondog, you have no idea and I would not reate you
hoddo: Get flowered Hardeballge .. No snot nosed little clown like you calls me a tool!
Wends: Rowe, for the love of god!
outrammed: What is Thompson doing????!?!
wolfheart: gibbs isn't soft. malthouse is soft in the head.
wadaramus: You don't rate Gibbs Moondog, give me a break.
hardballge: learn to spell first you muppet hodo
buddyboyz: lift thommo!!!
Woodie: Lift Jacobs ffs
J.Worrall: 2 much testosterone lads - no more pep tides 4 youse
spiggs: stevenson >Laird, gibbs>pendlebury
bartyboys: How can you not rate Gibbs haha . That's a joke
hardballge: @hodo and you still did not answer the question plebb
linusp: christ kerridge, tagging or not... get a touch
jamesprice: lets hope murphy can make up for gibbs!
slip: where is dangerfield playing?
Wends: Agreed J Worrall, too much green cordial today for some!
Fonz99: i hope gibbs repays us with a 150 against melbourne next week...
hoddo: What did I spell wrongly? You're name? Hardly matters!
hoddo: @ hardballge .. What was the question? I have Gibbs
meziare: On mob, can anyone tell me what happened to Tex?
hardballge: yes hardly matters for uneducated inbreeds.
wadaramus: We don't all have Murphy James.
Iron Price: Rowe, nice handball this quarter
Affliction: did anyone tip the crows?
Hiso: tex did a knee
hardballge: what about the rerst of the top 10 goose, forget it you have already proved your opinion is worthless
BillyPick: gibbs overrated.
colin wood: settle down ladies......
Jormas: Stevenson to Laird and Rowe to Walker this week !!!
MudDawg: Yay Rowe justed increased his score by 1 tenth.
hardballge: oh and btw I have enough respect for myself and anyone to get their name right.
hoddo: @hardballge .. Yes my opinion is worthless ... despite my two top 20 finishes overall in DT
Hiso: betts already well pastrowe
flowerchaiyya: Hard allege your a little jerk
cougar37: @Jormas - Ouch!!
spiggs: do u have a maths degree mud dawg
Thorpy: Come on Rowe get atleast 50 mate!
hardballge: I do not play or rate DT, SC for those in the know.
Fonz99: Stanton or Deledio, who do you guys think is gonna produce better consistent scores this year?
Changeling: wall for rowe
RayPest: @fonz99 stanton. delideo cant handle the tag as shown last night
flowerchaiyya: Hardballge you are a little germ
korza: @ Hardballage yeah Cotchin 144
wadaramus: Oh oh, DT v SC argument in the offing.
Demons15: @hardballge and hoddo, you both need to calm your tits
nostrdamus: @Fonz, l think Stants
hardballge: I punt for a living Hodo and need not for pathetic little stats. How much money for 20th bud ha ha ha
J.Worrall: stanton will miss some games
hoddo: @Hardballge .. You show no rspect for anyone else, so this discussion ends here
spiggs: no matter what rowe scores, he is going to make us some money.
hardballge: no respect for you turd much
oldfart: thompson first touch for qtr
turnbull8: Murphy sc?
Grommet66: ....give Kerridge star, he's got 4 whole points in in 27 minutes what a flowering superstar
Thorpy: 1102 from 9 two in play Rowe and Gibbs with captain played damn these two!
buddyboyz: is thompson on the ground?
wadaramus: Calm your tits, good on demon!!!
DrewMartin: shut up children
Wends: Ton up murph!!
flowerchaiyya: Did you want a medal hardballge? Christ
bennyq: wow what happened to tex
grossn: @hardballge: for someone of age to 'punt for a living' you clearly are incapable of respect
m0nty: back on the game please
budbundy: hardballge get a life your nothing but a keyboard warrior and an ordinary one at that
dizzydog: What's up with gibbs
Wends: It's witching hour Drew M, beddy byes soon for the kids. They had a big day.
bartyboys: Dangerfield wasn't best pick this year !!
Grommet66: flowering move your ass kerridge
DrewMartin: to true Wends
Demons15: Rory Laird a definite downgrade this week
Thorpy: Damn I knew I should've played Daw over Rowe!
Fonz99: kerridge has really shut down juddy, good on the youngster
korza: Has a sub ever top scored
wolfheart: I rate Kerridge as a player and will probably pick him up anyway next week, but he is having a fantasy barry.
Wheel74: I'll be considering JUDD in 2 weeks, he is moving much better....
S_Coach99: Where's tbag? Lol
J.Worrall: yup, kerridge is making judd cheaper 4 us. good on ya, son!
Jormas: Played Dywer and Rowe over Neade and Macaffer. Also have Stevenson, Hanley, Frost and Gibbs FMDT
RayPest: thanks for putting the png curse on danger m0nty, my opponent has him :)
wadaramus: Should have gone Neade over Rowe, what a flop.
Wheel74: There was massive hype & wraps about KERRIDGE last year, will be interesting to see what he does but today is shocking.
J.Worrall: banhammer 4 tbag - too much peptides
OnTheRocks: Don't write Danger off yet, look what Cotchin did from this same position last night......
Thorpy: So many rookies which ones to upgrade Dwyer and Rowe are on the chopping board at the moment!
Wends: A few of us in that boat wadaramus
jappleby: stevenson is in
S_Coach99: Next yr my team will be tbags spuds... Permanent danger captain
Jormas: "Gibbs Fine, and just wanted a half of footy into Betts"
Keza41: Malthouse you flowerwit!!! My opp didn't have gibbs this week!!!!
Grasscutta: neade will get the orange vest tonight baring any other injuries
Wends: Who said dat Jormas?
wadaramus: Got Gibbs Wends?
Thorpy: Windy and looks like it might be wet over here in adelaide we could see a solid score from young Jake Neade!
grossn: My opp has Pittard and Duffield hahahaha
turnbull8: Murphy you hack. shower sc score you flower
RayPest: malthouse is an idiot, if he wanted to get a good half into betts why not take off someone who hasn't been playing well
Fonz99: gibbs was projecting 100 aswell, you have someone like white who is injured but still gibbs comes off
Wheel74: Word is GIBBS is fine and they wanted to give BETTS a run for half a game for match fitness. I DONT believe that.
RayPest: why punish someone who is playing well by subbing them off
Wends: Murph 79sc at 3/4 time. Yes got Gibbs, but so does opponent in DT
Iron Price: Time for some junk Rowe
Thorpy: Even with Rowes, Dwyers and Gibbs shower scores still projecting into the 2100 range in DT so good enough for me!
R.Griff: I hate playing Rookie rucks welcome Cox to my ruck and anyone to my forward line
johnkay: What's wrong with the balls? Helicopters all day.
wadaramus: Double blow then!! Me too.
grossn: Not enough credit to Laird, second game and 68 in a 1/2 of footy
Wheel74: I wouldn't be paying to much attention regarding GIBBS being fine. It makes no sense, id bet everything he is injured.
Wends: I know - it's crap! SC opponent doesn't have Gibbs but 1/2 his team are Swans!
cashcow: this game is a fantasy fugging write off
S_Coach99: Anyone not have Gibbs... Could be worse
wolfheart: the earth is slow but Malthouse is a flowering moron
S_Coach99: Laird 56 scoach
grubby: gibbs hammy
J.Worrall: gibbs "hammy tightness"
RayPest: @Wheel74 i agree, malthouse is stupid but not that stupid
johnkay: Laird doing well
Fonz99: laird or vlaustin for a back line cash cow?
cashcow: vlaustin played 1 quarter
Jormas: @ fonz both
Grasscutta: tight hammy just a precaution but will probably rest against gws youd think
MyPies: Did no one else see Gibbs grimace when he took that ball near the boundary line just before half time.
Ferog: @Fonz99 Sam Docherty!
bartyboys: Junk danger please
LeFtBehinD: Get a touch Lucas!Q
jfitty: Rest against GWS in round 10?
Wheel74: Fonz if i were you I would consider SAM DOCHERTY (BRIS/DEFENCE) see how he plays tomorrow...
buddyboyz: here come the crows
J.Worrall: Jacobs! Woot!
Grasscutta: sorry melbourne
BoredSaint: cmon crows.. punish carlton for subbing out gibbs
Fonz99: if Docherty plays well then he will be the best cash cow i guess
Affliction: keep going adelaide no % booster for the blues
cashcow: hammy tightness. get the physio to smash his knee in to your buttock and get the hell back on
Jormas: rowe is utter shower
grubby: cmon danger
Wheel74: @BoardSaint Give it a break mate, GIBBS is injured to some degree, he wasn't punished.
Affliction: can crows win this?
Wends: Post subi 4th quarter blues?
chadwick: Carlton seem tho ave forgotten they can't take contested marks. Keep going down the line and you will lose
johnkay: Danger totally missing
buddyboyz: crows back into it!!!
HEckert: if crows win shows how average carlton are
bartyboys: Gibbs will get 70 sc
BoredSaint: haha wheel.. just lent me vent off some steam :P
BFAsh: Why the flower was Gibbs subbed?? we might lose this
dezza33: crows back in it and danger can hopefully kick the winning goal
Jormas: does laird's price increase this week or the week after?
johnkay: Goal umpire in the way again
Jormas: CMON Wright! get to your breakeven! 12 more..
wolfheart: you know as a tagger Wright makes a very good benchwarmer.
buddyboyz: next week Jormas
Mash: next week jormas
colin wood: Lucas to Gary this week........cheers for the coin
Wheel74: I hate trading out so called PREMIUMS but I had enough of Dangermouse.
LeFtBehinD: anyone else listening to SEN? God damn Schwatz you are terrible!
austhump: gibbs 62 sc
doogz: worst round ever.
chadwick: Hampson is useless
Iron Price: Nice hit out Rowe, it sits well with your solitary hand ball in the 3rd quarter
DirtyDawn: +1 wheel74
Jormas: lol carlton
Thorpy: Dangerfield is overrated. Plain and Simple.
austhump: 3rd week jormas
johnkay: Another helicopter
buddyboyz: 7 mins left
Wends: try ABC LeftBhnd - it's Drew Murph, Mark McLean and Gerard W
Fonz99: just like viney, rowe's potential for money is gone now
Grazz: Thero robbed
HEckert: umpires are so ridiclous!!!
Wends: *McClure
johnkay: Free to Thompson surely
HEckert: umpires are that shower
9robbo9: home town umpires kill afl just like freo game
Iron Price: ffs Rowe, I would've been better with a subbed off Tom Lee
Thorpy: Rowe got a kick!
Fonz99: game over now
johnkay: And umpires get Carlton over the line
Dangeroo: would you like the game on a plate carlton?
Wends: PNG curse must skip a game - next Monty target to score high?
austhump: have up to date sc if anyone would like
colin wood: x factor yarren
Hiso: hows murphy and danger going in SC ?
dezza33: rowe hit 50 you piece of s**t
goodxx: x factor umpires
austhump: murph 97 danger 81
MyPies: what's the link austhump
wolfheart: wrights gotta go. He's draggin my team down each and every week.
Wends: Tuohy... Tommy Lee Jones award, got the job done
johnkay: Muppet for Talia
Jormas: get to 90 laird, and i'll pick you up for frost this week :D
Hiso: thanks
joelyboy04: umps are shower, helping all the victorian sides, richmond last night and carlton tonight
colin wood: get to 80 lucas I dare ya....
austhump: its an app for iphone footy star
Wheel74: I love SC but damn its getting frustrating...
Thorpy: Get a goal Rowe that's all we ask of you!
HEckert: how do you pay that???/
oldfart: carlton are flat track bullies will get smashed come finals
Jormas: rowe dropped mark. ffs
johnkay: Another soft free to Judd
jamesprice: my footy star app never works it always says i have no connection
wolfheart: huh? Richmond lost Joel. Its home-cookin that is getting teams over the line.
Wheel74: The umpires absolutly love JUDD, that mark would not have been paid if it was any other player.
moppy: Whats judd sc?
Geelong13: Rowe should get the SPUD!
DirtyDawn: youre watching footy through your japeye joelyboy. Umps got Freo across the line last night!!!!!
Thorpy: you know your teams not as good as it used to be when Vince has the most DT
D-Train14: its sad when a player can get subbed off in the first 18 minutes of a game, and still outscore 5 players
austhump: juddy 101
HEckert: hows the judd mark, and rory sloanes and thompsons not paid...
GoCrowz98: Can anyone get the free kick ratio for this game?
cougar37: Yeah, that goal umpire really helped out the tigers last night.
joelyboy04: @wolfheart all the umps are victorian
oldfart: if you have rowe you are the spud
Mash: same as ablett all day, they look after the stars
Jormas: give rowe either of the MARE, Asronaut or the spud @ m0nty !!
colin wood: cash sign for rowe and lucas
hardballge: Tiges had the lead lost the centre clearance and could not defend, umps made no diff
DBerbatov9: flower off Jacobs
wolfheart: umpire Cock-Block? I reckon it was gonna hit the post anyway.
buddyboyz: give rowe the wall
austhump: 21 12 cartons way.. frees
HEckert: give andy otten the gun
bartyboys: Dangerfield your a turkey
wadaramus: Screw the cash sign, Rowe's score stinks.
hardballge: loser blame umps, the old Fizroy supporters sound like you guys. LOSERS!
LeFtBehinD: Oh Lucas... You are traded for Rowe!
colin wood: dangerfield +7 sc pts and hasnt touched the ball....
Wheel74: Dangermouse wont even score 90 SC the way he's going.
remon tea: Jaensch miss was costly
Wends: Carrots coming back into fantasy contention?
colin wood: wheel the powers that be are making sure he does....
Jormas: you're utter shower Wright and Rowe
Geelong13: How can rowe get dollar sign
austhump: danger finished on 86
dezza33: kick a goal for me danger
Wends: Murph crap SC
johnkay: Hand in the back against Yarran not seen by umpires
Jormas: gibbs will be rested against Melbourne
danmaio: robbo to winderlich for me, Mick plays him too defensively
colin wood: dangers score is a joke... went up by 16 for a handball....
johnkay: X factor umpires
oldfart: you lose dollers