Where will Richmond finish in 2012?

[McRooster]

Poll reset.

Sing the song with me
We've finished ninth again
The richmond tigers finished ninth again
In any season, you will see it is our fate
To miss out on the 8
We win a few, then lose a lot
And then it is too late
Because were down the drain
We've never been much good since 1982
Be it frawley or jewell
Northey or geisch
We win a few late - and just miss the 8
We've finished ninth again

[Patrician]

oh come on, isn't it time that song died a peaceful death? 

I'm going for 8th. We're going to scrape in and then crash under the burden of expectation. Which, by the way, only takes a couple of wins in a row.

[TheMailman]

Although I generally think Richmond isn't really heading up

I like the fact that they have stuck with Hardwick and the rest of their staff and persevering

that deserves close to top 8 if they can do it

If they can fight over teams such as adelaide, NM and Sydney and post wins against them they are a chance

[Wes Mantooth]

Why ninth is not winning the poll, I do not know. What I do know is they will play finals next year, but only if Jack gets stronger, leads harder and his team give him more space. Their midfield will improve again, its their backline that worries me.

[Patrician]

The backline is improving though. There's still quite a bit of heart-in-mouth stuff bringing the ball out of the backline, but its happening less and less.

If Jack fires and our backline improves on 2011, I reckon we will make the finals.

[arigatou]

There are still some problems in defense, do you think that 8 does not go beyond them they won last year in the last 13 games, but maybe not HP 74 this year.