Where will Brisbane finish in 2012?

[Ringo]

Couldn't agree more Cruise - We lost 7 games by 15 points or less last year. Fitness was an issue last year but looking how the guys returned to pre-season training on Monday have to agree with vossies comments they look in much better shape than this time last year.

[Cruiseon]

That said Ringo, don't buy too much into the pre-season hype/hope. Everyone is looking great, fit, conditioned and feeling excited in November.  Voss in particular will be talking it up, he needs to.

I think the road trip to Brisbane will be a tough one next year for many clubs. Could be interesting.

[Ringo]

Cruise it is an observation from myself as well over the last 5 years and on the 3k run on Monday the muscle tones were the best I have seen.  Brownie is even doing his first pre season in 10 years.  As I have said in another post first 7 games will define our season as we play Carlton, Geelong and Collingwood (and just to upset you we have a pretty good record v Collingwood at the Gabba) all at home and have a round 3 clash with freo at Perth so if we are no worse than 3/4 I can see us surprising as our draw is not to bad for the second half. The only top 8 sides from this year we play twice are Carlton and West Coast.