Fantasy coaches are still stressing over injured duo Andrew Raines and Liam Anthony. Here’s a final word.
This issue was always going to be the biggest one of the week, but I’ve held off on blogging about it until now. You haven’t made your trades, yet, have you? Remember the Ricky Petterd Rule! No trading until at least Thursday teams, and preferably not until 5pm Friday when the Sunday teams are announced!
For those of you still reading, congratulations on your self control. Many of you, like me, will have watched as first Anthony and then Raines destroyed our squads. Raines in particular was the worst case scenario, hitting me right where it hurts in the defence where I had modified my all-premium back structure specifically to include him as a no-brainer mid-price improver. To be brutally honest, if you didn’t have Raines in your starting fantasy 22 this year you are a spud who got lucky. There, I said it. All of you who swerved past him and have been crowing about it in the comments can count yourselves as (a) extremely fortunate, and (b) deserving of scorn by Raines owners for being such poor judges of fantasy scoring potential.
Before we start, the question has to be asked: do you trade this week at all, or do you wait a week to see how the rookies are going? My take on this is rather conservative. We haven’t quite reached backopalypse proportions yet this year, but my feeling is that there are more shocks to come, particularly in the backline with all those Fremantle youngsters we have been loading up on. I don’t trust Stephen Hill or Nick Suban not to pick up a knock and miss a week or two, even if Mark Harvey shows faith in them at the selection table. They’re just the sort of thin, slim-hipped kids who can fall victim to “general soreness” (Mathew Stokes) or a random bump (Travis Tuck). My thought is that the Raines trade has to be made this week if you also have Anthony (especially in a non-playing mid bench combo with someone like Dayne Beams), because you would leave yourself open to more than two holes next week if more bad news comes down the highway, and you know what that means… donuts. Here are what I expect to be the most popular trades of the week.
Raines to Kyle Cheney. As I said on the Coaches Box this week, I’m not entirely convinced by Cheney’s debut game. He was given a run-with role on Daniel Wells for the first quarter or two and was taken to the ball a lot, something which I don’t expect he’ll benefit from in subsequent games. There’s no denying that he got a lot of rebound ball, though, and even marked a few long kicks from the opposition, which no doubt led to his stellar Super Coach score. The preseason knock on Cheney is that he’s just warming the seat for Matthew Whelan, who is listed as 1-2 weeks away with his calf injury. The other concern is Paul Wheatley, who was listed as a test for this week but didn’t get selected. With Simon Buckley’s injury, though, this is the obvious trade and tens of thousands of coaches will make it this week.
Raines to Sam Gilbert. Looking over options for sideways trades, it’s hard to find any surefire improvers. I had Jarryn Geary myself last year and was happy with his output, but I’m usually wary of second-year players who played a lot of games in their debut season, as they can sometimes tire early as their young body struggles with the wear and tear of weekly senior footy. I’m not convinced with Ricky Petterd’s round 1 score and would need to see at least one more week to confirm that his role is as lucrative as it looked last Saturday, and that it will continue on past days when Brad Miller and Matthew Bate are having barries. Gilbert requires a fair wad of cash to move up to from Raines in DT, though in SC it’s easier, and I think this might be more of a Super Coach pick anyway. The injury to Raphael Clarke cements Gilbert’s role alongside Farren Ray as halfback rebounder for the new-look Saints, with Brendan Goddard and Jason Gram scampering through the corridor.
Anthony to Andy Otten. I would recommend this trade only to owners of Travis Tuck (which includes me :’( ), even though his AC joint injury is only going to put him out for one match. Otten’s spot in the Crows 22 looks reasonably safe to me, with Jared Petrenko the 22nd man and not much waiting in the wings to replace either of them, other than Robert Shirley who is in Neil Craig’s bad books at the moment. It always tugs at the heartstrings to burn two trades in week 1, but I think this trade in combination with Raines to a rookie would be two good decisions.
Anthony to Patrick Dangerfield. For many of the same reasons as the Otten trade. Craig has a weird public relationship with Dangerfield, knocking his Geelong coaches for presenting him in an unfit state in the preseason, and bagging him all through the NAB, but picking him out of the blue for round 1. I suspect it has all been a ruse, and Craig has been planning all along to enter the Danger zone for an extended period.
Now please, no more schadenfreude in the comments. Those of you who have Raines, Anthony, Tuck, Matthew Spangher, Sam Butler, Stokes or any other prominent player missing this week, tell me what you’re going to do and why.
Well Raines is going to my bench for Kyle Cheney, easy decision. My problem is in the midfield where i was stupid enough to have cousins, and unlucky about Tuck with a bench of Beams and Davenport… Cousins out Clancee Pearce in most likely, and take the donut, but make beams emergency as he might replace pendles as he’s in doubt.
Im one of your so called spuds that went with out raines, instead going for Houlihan which seems to look like a decent replacment for raines.
Do have anthony though and will look to trade him to dangerfield next week, looks like a massive body for an 18 year old which will hopefuly hold him in good stead.
Oh yeah, that’s another thing. If you didn’t have Houlihan you’re also a spud.
Don’t worry mont, there’s gonna be tonnes of us in the same boat mate! I hate using 2 trades in round 1, but you gotta do what u gotta do, right.
My problem is different, I own raines and spuddy mcspudson Nicoski in my backs! So I went raines to cheney and Nicoski to Peter burgoyne with the left over cash. Problem is i’m starting both Cheney and Hill now…
stokes on bench for s.hogan
he’s gonna go off!!!
I have Raines, Suckling, Anthony and Tuck. If Suban plays on Sunday then I won’t need to do a thing as Rich and Robinson will both play in the midfield and Suban and Petrenko will both play down back. That would leave Raines, Suckling, Tuck and Anthony on the bench for R2.
Other option is to trade Raines for Cheney and free up some cash.
Thoughts?
I’m a spud, Raines to Houlihan. I also don’t have Adcock but can live without him for the mo, call me spuddy mcspuderson.
I’ve got Raines, Anthony and Butler.
My plan was that if I’ve traded someone out, then they’re out of the team and won’t return, but my league fixture has a month of soft targets between round 14-17, so it could be the right point to have a second round of cash cows maturing for a strong run to the finals.
Perhaps I’ll pencil Anthony in for that “class” of cows moving through, hopefully Beams or Sidebottom doesn’t debut for a another month or two. That might justify trading him out, then in again. It’ll definitely cost me two trades, but all I’ll be buying are maybes.
I feel sorry for all those who jumped on Hurley early.
Well u know raines is out for a month minimum… And I like the fact ranga cheney gets a lot of rebound off half back in, let’s face it, a shocking backline!
Monty perhaps you could do a blog on the “RED SEA OF ROOKIES”. Where the hell did all these ranga’s come from all of a sudden!?!?!
I am most likely going to trade Jason Davenport Out (being a Geelong fan I had to have him at the start) and Robinson IN.
If Hill is not named Raines Out for Jed Adcock or Ricky Petterd
I had rich on the bench and swapped him for Masten, now with Tuck out, Masten comes in…laughing. Tuck’ll be back.
Im holding on the Raines for the moment, he’s on the bench with Zac Dawson to cover, might not be a huge scorer, but I dont want to waste a trade.
Im hanging for Mitch Thorp to be given a run, but its going to be hard for him to get a game in a team with such depth.
1 Trade - Raines to Cheney.
Benched S.Hill (A bit suss on him) and M.Suckling (inj)
T.Tuck (inj) benched in the Centre with Dangerfield. Robinson On.
Fingers crossed it’s the right move..
well that makes me feel better about trading those two for cheney and otten last night, before teams finalised this arvo.
and as an adcock owner, spuddy mcspuderson i can tell you you ain’t missing much.
Yeah im with you Monty, got Raines, Anthony, Tuck, and I took a kick me in the face punt on Butler. Too early to take a donut. Had to burn butler to otten, and anthony to robinson. Would have saved the latter if maelstrom wasn’t completely #$%^!!!
Prob, do raines to cheney next week. Seriously cracked start to the year.
I’ve got Raines and Broughton stinking up my back bench and Beams, Butler and Anthony crowding the pine in the mid. Destined for at least one donut this week, two if Hill gets cut.
Still I think i’m gonna play it safe and not trade would prefer to see another week of Robinson/Cheney etc.
Wrong decision?
m0nty do you think you can carry Raines if you have Hill & Petrenko as cover?
@Monty
I still think Raines in S/C wasn’t a done deal.
Totally agree in D/T
Raines out Chenay in and bank $100k
I have Raines and Anthony, like most players, and am not considering a trade this week, again I would think like most players. Surprised at your recommendation to pull the trigger Monty. If despite having those two you still have a playing emergency on both lines, why not wait another week to see how Cheney’s/Robinson’s/Dangerfield’s form stcks up over a two week period? It’d be pretty unlucky to cop two more injuries/drops on either line this week, and even if you did, then you could trade to avoid donuts. Advanced donut protection is trade wasting. That said I can see next week being a disaster in the forwards - walker/hentschel/ziebell/brown all very shaky at the moment.
I only play SC. I chose Houlihan over Raines as my 6th back. I’m not a spud. Raines is the spud. You are really wrong on this one Monty. Raines dispoal is shocking. As evidenced in round 1 when he had 20 dispoals and scored 50 odd (compared to Hoops who had 20 disposals at 90% effectiveness. I repeat, you are wrong.
Im not trading untill the final teams are out. I will trade Anthony to Danger and leave Raines on the Bench for Petrenko to replace him. I expect hill and suban to play. They will both play.
These are their threats on freos extended bench:
- Hayden Failed fitness test - out
- Drum named in the WAFL - out
- IMHO Thornton wont get a run - out
Even if Thornton was to get a run Murphy would be dropped before Hill/Suban.
But if they dont play then i will trade raines to cheney. And then Anthony to Otten, with cash left over. I would prefer to wait untill next week before trading raines, in order to get the best option. What do you think about these senarios?
Well i had Raines, Hill, Broughton - which gives me NO emergencies.
And the chance Hill will be out, i got rid of Raines to Cheney.
I have not changed the mid yet. I have Rich, Otten and Anthony.
I really want Danger, but its a waste of a trade this early on.
Well I have S. Buckley, A. Raines and S.Hill in my back line with Broughton and Petrenko to cover on the bench? what should I do.
Oh and also have Anthony and Beams on the bench in my Mids. Bummer
What should I do???
Anthony to Otten - liked what I saw of him and reckon he’ll play enough games this season for a cash cow investment.
Tuck out this week, but Rich to cover is good.
Up back I’ve got Raines out this week with hopefully Hill and Suban covering defender spots 6 and 7 this week.
But I have to say, I am wlling to take one backline doughnut this week if it means I get to have another look at Petterd, Cheney, Rance, Petrenko, etc.
Want to make the right choice for the next 6-8 weeks, as that was what I had Raines in the side to do originally (that is, make me $100K or so and then sell down).
If I do Raines to Cheney, I make $185K in Supercoach. If Cheney plays 6 games and gets to 250K, then I downgrade him and make $150K … that’s attractive. But its one moe rade than I wanted to do.
Another variable - the teeming rain right now in Melbourne and what they’ve had in Adelaide as I understand. Could affect scoring .
I think a lot you you lads are undervaluing your trades. Prior to rd 3 can be a very valuable time to trade, but this is not yet a time of desperation, this is a time for shooting your load too early. I’m sitting tight
@west: You have enough cover for now, but what about by round 4 or 5 when Raines will still be injured, are you so confident that both will be playing by then? I’m naturally conservative so I don’t want to take that chance.
I have tuck, with beams and anthony, and raines and hill, with suban and petrenko.
Option 1:
(Hill and Suban play)
Petrenko ON, Raines OFF
Danger IN, Anthony OUT
Option 2:
(Hill and Suban dont play)
Cheney IN, Raines OUT
Otten IN, Anthony OUT
Am i better off trading raines regardless of whether hill and suban play?
I have Raph Clarke, Hurley, Raines, Hill, Tuck, Butler, Anthony and Beams… F#%!… Downgraded Clarke to Cheney and swapped Anthony to Robinson… Will still prob have a couple of donuts…
It’s just not fair
m0nty with Cheney named in the middle will be good viewing to see if he has the ability to be a dreamteamer. Considering this possibility
After round 2
Out: Mundy/Staker
In: Cheney/S.Johnson
After round 3 if Hill not named
Out: Hill
In: Broughton/Rance(if named)
Got Anthony,Butler and Raines.
This wk Anthony to premium (kept cash in bank for situations like these.)Keep Butler benched and either downgrade to Otten or wiat for a later playing rook(Picken,Merideth)If Butler plays have 1 more wk to assess him before price
changes.
Raines will be kept untill Ellis is ready.
I have both Raines and Anthony however I wont pull the trigger this week although with Broughtons 26 WAFL possies not enough to even earn him a squad spot in a team that got pumped I will have no cover in backs.
Guys,
I have raines, anthony, tuck and beams. My backline was all premiums, with Frawley and Raines starting with petrenko and broughton on the bench.
Raines is a great cash cow, that will average 70 all year. It is a trap that I fell into last year. Lateral trades, and rookie for rookie trades. I understand that you dont want to risk a zero by having no back emergency. But remember it is only round 1, and despite what you may have scored there is still a huge opportunity to climb the rankings.
My Midfield with out tuck, with anthony and beams on the bench is staring at a zero, I was going to trade Robbo (Mitch Robinson) in next week anyway. But i was heasitant as it is easy to get caught up in a single games score. Like Cheney i wanted to wait till next week before pulling the trigger. But I cant do that due to a knock on tuck’s shoulder.
Liam Anthony Out….. Mitch Robinson In
What does every think a trade is worth? How many good games out of a player? How much money will he make you? I am wondering as I am trying to figure out a cash value for what a trade is worth.
Feel for ya ‘hilly’
Hang in there mate!
i’m burning two trades this week which i’m not too happy about but here’s mu resoning. i’ve traded raines to cheney(fingers crossed on that one), as i hill but not convinced he will play too many games, or even this week, also traded anthony to rich cause i didn’t have him and pocketed some change, this was necessay as i have t tuck and dane beams and i would have had to cop a zero, thats not gunna happen.
100,000g per trade?
My panic button says trade your way to victory however thats what I did last year and come end of the season I fell in a big heap cause I had guns and rookies falling all over the place with no trades.
I will cop at least one 0 this week but I just cant trust any of the back rookies after one game, gee even harding got 150. One 0 not going to hurt over 22 rounds but at least I might have one trade left that will win me the car.
After this week I can feel abit more informed about scores and roles these rookies are playing.
Am I right that the last 2 dt winners didnt trade until at least round 7 ? cash cow or no cash cow ?
schadenfreude, nicely done monty
I am going to break your suggestions sorry, i have Raines and anthony and i am keeping my trades. As long as Hill plays i have cover. I have always picked the more durable options so hopefully this will keep me in good stead next week where i can ponder Anthony to Dangerfield/Otten/Zaharakis etc (or ponder to sit on anthony).
I have, Raines hill petrenko boughton down back.
going to play hill and petrenko and have raines broughton on bench. (will risk the donut to have another look at the players before trading raines out)
I have tuck, anthony, otten and rich in the mids.
going to play otten and rich, leaving tuck (who will be back rnd 3) and anthony on the bench. but again, will wait to see if robinson’s form sticks before trading out anthony for him.
thoughts monty?
I have Raines, Tuck, Hurley and Anthony, my answer to that problem is.
Raines trade for Cheney.
Leaving me with Hurley and Hill on the bench and Petrenko and Cheney starting. Thats not to bad.
Tuck on the bench, bringing Robinson onto the ground.
This will leave me with only 2 players next week that are injured (barring injuries this round) being Hurley and Anthony.
I will see who has looked the best out of Otten and Dangerfield, and trade them in for Otten.
This will leave me with Hurley injured on the bench and $215,000 in the bank.
I think i will keep Hurley until he returns or it looks like there is a defender worth trading for maybe Dawson.
This would leave me with nearly $300,000 in the bank and then around round 6-7 i could trade say a
Mitch Brown for a Riewoldt, Harvey, Brown
Robinson/Otten/Danger for a Judd, Mitchell…
Petrenko for a Hodge, Fisher, Newman, waite.
Thats my plan Monty, and im sticking to it!!!
i had cuz and raines with anthony and beams on the midfield bench. downgraded raines to petterd and upgraded cuz to nicky dal. didnt really wanna use 2 trades this early but being in the top 500 i wouldnt mind trying to keep pace
SC: Raines to bench Petrenko to cover. Have Rich on field & Robinson as emerg. ALready have Geary & Houlihan. Anthony could become a sideways trade to Beams when the kid notches 3 games
DT: Raines to bench, Petrenko to cover. Have Tuck inthe centre, and will cop the 0 unless Beams is alate inclusion. heres hoping) Did a sideways trade from McMahon to Peter Burgoyne (yes silly I know but hey its DT.)
SAVE THE TRADES—THEY ARE GOLD COME R18-22
Rule number 1, 2 and 3 in DT!!!!!
I have Raines, Hill,Suban…beams, tuck, anthony. Going to keep raines, waste of a trade in my books, got hill and suban to back up and if Hill goes low again this week then might think about Cheney (if he does well again)
Midfield again waiting for next week, no point trading early for money only for Robinson to go down inj this week and having to burn another trade!!!!
pendlebury in doubt
Need some help with a trade.
I have Raines and Drum (yes, the most unworthy of all).
Thinking of a trade of Drum out, Myers in and then kicking Raines out for Sam Gilbert.
Thoughts? Was Gilbert a flash in the pan last week?
My backs consisted of Raines Hill with Hurley Broughton on the bench. If Hurley didn’t get injured I would have waited a week to pull the trigger on Raines but I refuse to risk copping two 0’s this early on
Raines => Cheney.
Probably go Anthony => Robinson next week. I don’t think burning a couple of trades early on is a bad thing at all. I just need to pray that I don’t need to use up anymore until rnd 6-7.
I have already broken my golden rule and done the Raines - Cheney trade, I like to think that at very least he will make me some cash and allow me some flexibility in trading somewhere around round 6-8 as well as freeing up some cash.
I went a little different with Anthony - Rich whilst I already boost a solid midfield I have Robinson on the field and Beams on the bench, I feel more comfortable that Rich is available as an emergency.
I didn’t feel the love when he played in the NAB cup and was hesitant to include him in my side.
Overall very happy with my trades despite my apprehension at trading early, however risk and reward are something every coach considers and I think the benefit outweighs the risk in this particular situation
haha i am a spud who didnt have rains, however i had a full team that played, plus 7 bench players…only player who didnt play was anthony. none of my players got injured either….
so i dont think i’m going to do anything, maybe swap who my emergencies are and keep all my trades for next week when the boys are going to go up in value!
yeah, I have succummed to the pressure of trades after round 1.
I have done the Raines to Cheney trade.
I couldn’t get Skippy into my initial team, so I have used the cash to upgrade Anthony to Skipworth.
I have burnt 2 trades early, but I don’t think I will be getting Raines back. I’m hoping Skipworth will be a better long term player than Raines.
I’ve got butler, anthony and raines so i think I’ll hold off entirely this week and play robinson for butler and cheyney for raines and probably go:
Butler –> Otten/Dangerfield
Raines –> Adcock, Harding (if he gets another 150) etc.
What are your thoughts on this guys?
Im thinking the Anthony to Robinson but very reluctant.
Beams might be a late inclusion anyway.
I am ranked 1 in Dream team and 480 in Super coach (Team Name: Smithys Chargers)
My players are:
Raine, Hill, suban, Petrenko
Tuck, Anthony, Robinson, Rich.
last week i played and Petrenko on the field because I was unsure if Hill and Suban were selected before the lock out. I will play Petrenko again this week in place of Rains. Hill will also be on the field with Suban emergency (unlikely they will both be dropped will confirm before lock out)
I have moved Tuck the bench week and Robinson is on the field with Rich. Clearly Anthony is still on the bench.
THERE IS NO REASON TO TRADE TUCK…HE IS A GUN AND WILL BE BACK AGAINS NORTH MELBOURNE
Ash,
I have done exactly the same with the same players apart from having Danger and not Robo so am planning Robo for Anthony next week or Otten but that will give me 4 Crow rooks!. Thats two trades in two rounds and no donuts.
Only risk is the 4 rooks down back and their immediate future.
I actually agree with all those people who aren’t trading, and I would do the same if I had cover for raines anthony but because I have butler too i don’t think I really have a choice in the matter, what a git i should’ve got tuck at least he’ll be back in next week.
Anyone know when the teams are finalised for the weekend?
There you go people.
You just heard it from our No.1 ranked DTer.
Don’t trade!
Three things Monty:
1. Cheney for President, gee you are a funny guy. Next it will be Swan for PM!!
2. You are not a spud if you didn’t pick Raines in SC. DT perhaps but there is plenty of arguement against Raines as a lock in SC.
3. Loading up the backs was a good call. Raines the first one injured and already our depth at 200k and less is minimal.
Roger Hayden didn’t get on the plane, Suban and Hill did - read into it what you will.
http://www.afl.com.au/news/newsarticle/tabid/208/newsid/74326/default.aspx
Keep the powder dry folks, for those with Raines, Hill and Suban, which is most of you, the more important question for contemplation going forward may well be who to trade for in for Hill as clearly week 1 was not overly positive and keep Raines in the back pocket we all selected him for a reason…at least a no trade strategy gives the opportunity for more due dilligence on Cheney and the gang.
I have Raines and Anthony. My plan is to do nothing for a week and see what happens this weekend. That way if Cheney busts then I have options. I’m leaning his way for next week. The extra cash is oh so tempting. There’s a couple of sideways swaps I’m looking at too if needs be.
My other 28 guys have all been named, at least in squads, so I’m not too concerned. I forked out the extra cash for Rich and Otten, so I can carry Anthony as an 8th mid for a week. Choosing which of those two goes in has been tough though. I’ve opted for Otten on SC and Rich on DT.
@Brendan:
Very similar situation. Only difference to the playres you named is I have Rance over Petrenko and Beams over Anthony. I should be able to cover this week with the two of Rance/Hill/Suban in the backs and Robinson so cover Tuck.
But I am reluctant to trade Raines at all because this would mean I am starting two rookies in my backs for multiple weeks, which I want to avoid.
We’ll see how it all pans out, but I am confident wiht my strategy. Holding onto my trades for as long as I can.
no love for rich, monty? thats the trade im making. still copping a 0 from having both tuck and butler though.
Tuck is sitting on the bench with Rich and Robinson starting. Have Anthony on the bench too but I am waiting until the end of round 2 to figure out the best cash cow to replace him with at a similar price.
I don’t expect the same kind of score from Robinson again (probably be lucky yo hit 60 odd) but Rich should consistently score 80 if he is given a go, the kid is great.
PS; Saying those who didn’t pick Raines are spuds is a load of trash. I didn’t pick him because I did a lot of research and knew he wasn’t a good option. 90% of Richmond supporters will tell you he’s on the fringe of their best 22 and has a very mediocre disposal rate. That means he’ll be lousy for SuperCoach. He would’ve been my seventh backman as it is, so I just ended up slotting in an unproven rookie cash cow (with two emergencies in the same boat) to almost guarantee a score each week until I trade them out. I mean, can you honestly think that not one of Hill, Cheney and Patrenko will get a game until week 8? Doubt it.
I have Raines & Anthony too. I’ll be watching with interest how Robinson, Ottens, etc go this weekend and then making a decision who to trade. I hope the decision will be an informed one.
Cheney replaces Raines this week in my 22 but with Anthony & Beams on my mids bench I have no-one to replace Tuck……unless Beams plays for an injured Pendlebury or Shaw (rumours abound regarding the condition of these 2 gents)
Next week if all goes well these will be my trades:
Anthony for Robinson/Ottens
Raines for… I have absolutely no idea! I’ll work that out next week.
those who didn’t pick Raines are spuds….some dude spoke to his mate, he has to be right
I think in DT no Raines = Spud.
And gotthepower, the reason monty hasn’t mentioned hill is everyone already has him except the super spudlymcspudspuds. And yes we all heard about the bad pre-season but honestly he was a lock.
I’m taking the long term view after running out of trades at the end of last season. I reckon I will probably double trade next week though.
In SC I still have Hill on the bench, will trade Raines next week after we get more numbers and a better appreciation of break evens.
Tuck is on my bench with Dangerfield, and I’m playing Robinson, Rich and Hasleby in the middle. If Hasleby isn’t better for the run from last week and scores crap again, I’ll trade him to Otten or Dal Santo or O’Bree (I have heaps of cash and O’Bree is tracking well)
In DT I’m in lots more trouble, have Raines, Collier who got dropped and Broughton - will be running with a 0 this week because I can’t decide if I should get rid of Collier or Raines.
Also Tuck and Beams on the bench, so hopefully with Pendlebury pulling up sore, maybe Beams will get a guernsey.
Dang. Hate trading so early but I don’t have a sweet tooth. I had Cousins, Raines and Tuck so I chucked Raines on the bench for them mighty Zac Dawson and I traded Cousins for Rich.
One trade down but plenty of cash. I can’t play Zac Dawson once the head to head matches start so there are a few on my watch list.
Fatty.
I went with Geary over Raines because he scored better preseason.
The two games Raines got over 70 (he also had a 52 and 39 from memory) he got 26 possessions, which would definately not be happening each week. He avg’d 59 for NAB
Geary averaged 72 with 3 scores 82 . He was the lock in my opinion. Especially with Goddard and Gram going into the midfield, Geary would settle well at half back at the Saints.
Raines also hasn’t had the best injury run, another reason to not get him. So don’t say he was a lock in DT, as he clearly wasn’t. The dumbasses that thought he was a lock and blindly chose him are paying for it now.
Beams will play this week - can feel it in my bones.
Wet weather must put Rocca in doubt.
Hhhhm, more than a few on here whose sarcasm detectors aren’t working. Better throw in a few more smileys eh Montgomery/
The Fat Man.
Goldmoss: as has been said, Pendles is also in doubt with soreness. Beams definitely a chance.
I agree Raines was a good option for DT. But for SC, he wasn’t. That should be clarified. He has shit disposal.
I definately feel a little unlucky currently had Hill and Raines starting with Suckling as a Reserve and Tuck in the middle with Anthony.
So went Raines to Dick Cheney
and Anthony to Rich (didn’t think much of his pre-season form and was content with Robbo, i now think he is a cash cow must!)
well i was tupid enough to hav cuz which surley was a silly move and with many others raines…..i traded cuz n got rich n then got waite for raines…thinkin it was a pretty good move…any thoughts????
There is no defence for trading after one round of football. Absolute madness, all of you. Monty, although I respect the amount of effort you put into this site and I enjoy your writing style, I am not really that surprised you recommended the move. Actually playing DT does not appear to be your strength. It is a move for those 205,000 competitors I’m not really worried come the last 5 to 10 rounds.
A donut in the first week or three will not hurt your chances for the chocolates if it means retaining trades and trading on consistent form - not one game of football!!!
Anyone who trades this week is a f***ing goose. And I mean it.
im covering raines with petrenko and hoping hill gets a game.
im covering tuck with robinson who i traded anthony for.
1 trade used, hopefully no donuts
@Peter G, what about Cousins? What if you hold onto him and he does his hamstring AGAIN…..you’d be the goose then?
lets all come together in prayer for Hill to get named in the starting 22!
^My only pray for this round!
With Pendles being a bit suss I think trading Anthony to Robinson was a must for me just to avoid any zeros (Have Tuck).
AFL Dreamteam Ranking - 2791
BACKS
Out: Raines
In: Cheney
I have Hill and Suban so risking a Doughnut in the backline if I don’t draft a player this week. It also leave me with 100K up my sleve to upgrade a player in the comming weeks. Looking a players for a sideways trade there dosn’t seem to be too many players with value, better off getting a rookie and try and make some extra cash.
MIDFIELD
BEAMS - HOLD
ANTHONEY - HOLD
Going to risk not having any emergencies in the Midfield this week to see what scores Robo and Co get this week. Have a very strong midfield, barring late injury will not need a back up. Next week might trade out Anthoney to make some money and pick him up round 9-10 when he hits his bubble.
I don’t see the benefit of holding him for 6 weeks while we can make some quick cash trading Robo in.
Forward & Ruck Rookies a all good
The Wall
i got butler tuck anthony and swift in the midfield. Benching tuck, definetly trading butler (fukhead).
Should I,
a) butler for ward, anthony for dangerfield
or
b)anthony for robinson, butler for otten/dangerfield
oh wtf.
Now I find out garland is out for FOUR months. Thought he was going to be a great unique pick for me…
Right on Peter G, testify!
Cam you have revealed yourself to be a muppet by suggesting that Geary was a lock.
In future posts please use the name “Muppet(aka Cam)”. It’s important that I am able to easily identify posters to skip over as I don’t want to dumb down my afternoon too much.
i have butler on the field and beams and anthony on the pine. is it worth risking the 0 and benching butler in the hope that beams plays, and that butler returns quickly, or should i trade butler down to rich considering i dont have him and waste a trade early but make some money and give up on butler?
@ JIm
Ummm, buddy? Anyone who has Cousins belongs in that 205,000 muppets not threatening anybody.
who to start - Rich or Robinson? My gut says Rich coz I doubt Robinson can have it served up to him on a platter two weeks in a row.
I have Raines and Tuck.
But fortunately, I picked Cheney previous to round 1. So Raines is going to take a bench seat, with Cheney coming on to the ground.
Last week Cheney was handy as emergency for Heath Shaw, who will return this week. Rance is now my backline Emergency, and the injury to Raines will hopefully give Rance a few opportunities.
Tuck in the midfield hurts slightly more. My mid rookies are Rich, Ziebell and Beams. Rich started last week, with Ziebell the emergency. So this week, Ziebell in and Tuck to the bench, with Beams an emergency. Hopefully he’s not needed.
Not burning any trades this week, hopefully I don’t suffer any further losses over the weekend and will be able to re-assess next week.
p.s. scored 2021 rd1 with cox captain (shoulda had ablett)
I’m a spud. I baulked at raines 22 possy 70 odd point supercoach score for a sydney gun who’s knee is held together with a piece of twine, go Malceski.
@Goldmoss:Monty
You two guys, whats going on between you two.I’m starting to get sus.
It seems like thier is love in the air.
butler for ward?
will cheney hold his spot better now that garland is out for 12?
where are the teams for sunday announced?
i reckon beams will be a late inclusion for saturdays game. what does everyone else think?
Hill - IN!
Houli - OUT! WTF??????????????
Beams - EMG!
houli out hurts my SC team but thank god hills in
hey guys. i was stupid enough to forgot about the website overloading and hope i could get in last mite, obviouly not. stuck without houlihan:( however i did have raines and just traded him out for houlihan, with suban, hill, petrenko and broughton in my backline i felt it neccesary to get a consistent player, who will play every week.
im also having trouble with this: which two do i start on field and which do i leave as an emergency ; robinson rich haselby??
Wow << spud.
No houlihan or raines, i must be spudalicious.
Anthony the only injury and a 2998 score. Mise well be a spud.
Enjoy.
@ Bo,
pretty poor score for S/C & D/T combined spuddymcspuddalishousspudman…
I had Raines, so I did the following:
D. Kerr out for D. Rich (Starting XXII)
A. Raines out for N. Bock (Starting XXII).
I didn’t want to use 2 trades, but Bock is a lock, and Rich looks the goods considering round 1.
Oh Josha, and rookies always maintain rd 1 form, never trade premiums unless injured. Thanks for the 1 trade advantage.
Yours sincerely
Your Superior.
If you hadn’t said he wouldn’t play round 1, monty, I’d have already had Petterd. So you are costing me a trade this week.
I’m keeping Raines, Petrenko to 7th back, no emergency in backs (Grima not even in 25, thanks again monty).
Bye Cousins, hello Ricky, Bye Liam Anthony, hello Robinson.
Trading in the first couple of weeks makes sense to me. Any player sitting on the bench not playing is taking up a spot and making no cash.
@ Evan,
Haselby & Rich on the field Robinson on the bench mate IMO.
2998 score?
Roflcopter.
I agree with Brad, Evan. That’s exactly how the bottom end of my midfield looks (with Beams also on bench - hope he comes in for Pendles)
I have Garland who is out injured now, who should i trade for him?
any ideas will do? please!
cheny, houlihan, petrenko brady u spud
haha thanks Vivs you mega spud:)
whyd u have garland hes so dour, he is not a dreamteamer u are a lemon
To Peter G (comment at 6:12)
Anyone who has such a rigid strategy and isn’t prepared to look at ALL options (even trading after 1 round) is a f***ing goose!
Had him in SC,
who you reckon?
Petrenko or Houlihan?
Not sure:S for SC that is
I’ve done the most popular thing …
Raines - Out, Cheney - In
Anthony - Out, Robinson - In
I had both Raines and Cousins (more a sentimental pick than anything).
Cousin’s I traded out for Bernie Vince which freed up a bit of cash and allowed me to trade Raines for Patful. Both had good games last week and watching Patful closely his role could change as the year goes on (and also depending on opponent) which hopefully means more ball coming out of the backline and into the centre.
Haha Vivs, couldn’t describe Garland any better than dour
I need help…i want to trade Cousins…that will give me $510,700….
who should i get ?
T.Johnstone ??
Think i will go petrenko, reckon he will get a regular game?
T. Johnstone…??
ROFL!
MarksMen.. dont get Johnstone because he had one good week.. hes usually bad a DT. I would get a reliable choice like Selwood, Cross, Thompson, Swanny.. you know them guys.
A bit lowe of the salary cap - theres Gibbs.
Pendles in doubt
That succkksss since I have Robbo playing for Tucky and then my other bench player is Beams.
Cross my fingers that Pendles does play and if he doesnt Roccer doesnt come in - Beams does
raines out RANCE in… think Rance could be a champ!
Johnstone will be lucky to score like that again, go someone blue chip, ie the Geelong midfield, Dane Swan, Mitchell, someone way more consistent than Johnstone
Kane Cornes would be a good one too, especially this week against West Coast
I have Raines, but Petrenko on to cover him. Also have Anthony on the bench. I just dont see the point trading out after one round when its entirely possible that the options suggested like Cheney etc may get either injured, dropped or turn into Presti. Why not wait a week and see what happens this round and next weekend with squads? Sounds like a lot of people breaking their promises to themselves to not do reactive trades so early.
As a Pies supporter I’m still very confused why the HELL Dayne Beams isn’t playing instead of;
A. Ben Johnson… no heart
B. Brad Dick… ummm WHAT THE!
c. Alan Toovey… Muppet
Get Beams in, he’s hunger and tenacity is there, loves the hard ball get and kicks the odd goal.
I’m perplexed.
Dangerfield comes in for Tuck, had to trade Cousins for S.Higgins cause Liam Anthony injured on bench. And I’ll be one short in defenders with injuries to Scott Stevens, Suckling, Raines and P.Davis not in the selectors mind at the moment, so traded Raines for Joel MacDonald leaving only six defenders
@ F10
…you didn’t already have Higgins?
And isn’t Tuck only likely to be out for 1 week?
i had some hard decisions having both raines and cousins, with anothony & beams sitting on an unused bench in the midfield. I have made just the one trade through as I am also not convinced with cheney or pettard…. especially pettard as a kangaroo supporter watching the game, they were lucky they played an ordinary team like us. I think these players wont go near the ball against good sides…. anyway I made the trade for cousins to dangerfield freeing up 300k. I agree with monty on dangerfield too. I think he is a keeper
To Fryzie
Nah unfortunately
Dangerfield comes on for Tuck
I traded out raines for cheney then anthony for dangermouse.
“To be brutally honest, if you didn’t have Raines in your starting fantasy 22 this year you are a spud who got lucky.”
I’ll take your word for that the day you get a good ranking. We’ve all got our reasons, perhaps its your fault you didn’t think of them all.
Everyone is quick to get on the Cheney and Robinson bandwagons. Does the name Dean Polo mean anything to you spud farmers. I have Cheney and whilst happy with his round 1 score, i’m not caressing myself to sleep over it, frankly I would’ve preferred he scored that in round 3, for maximum value. I expect 60-70 from him at most though I do expect him to play enough games first up (8 according to Montys charts) to reach 300k-350K and be worth a trade down, unlike Robinson who could very well only play 5 scattered games all year and not crack 200k. Saying that I wish I had Robbo instead of Anthony, Im never picking a north rookie ever again.
btw those on this site who try and justify DT being better than almighty S/C are the same people who still play Wonderboy on their Sega Master System. Get with the program.
@superfist, lummas, WP
the point of the trade at this point, and the reason it’s a good idea to make them, is twofold:
1. the price rise after week 3. sure, raines will come back and so will anthony but cheney, robinson, otten, petrenko etc will burst upwards in price some week 4. so there’s no point having an injured cash-cow-to-be sitting on your bench when the prices rise. better to spend two trades now and get yourself a bloke who will add 150-200k in a couple of weeks. then use that player to get anthony or grimes back (long term prospects both), and make a handy profit. better still to trade them in next week, after we see who performs well for two rounds. but this is complicated by:
2. holding your place in your league after week 2 for the sake of such things as vainglory and pride. imagine the heckling you’ll cop if you pull a big round 1 score then fall away and some lucky monkey gets ahead of you. sorry cap’n b.kirk, i’m not at your zen level of acceptance yet. risking a zero: i can’t do it.
astrofrankie, i hope you find some other way to get yrself to sleep.
And the horrors continue with Trent getting Bent. Who else will get injured this weekend? More trading to be done week I suspect!
@The Fone
do you think you could get on the blower and find out how that “pies fan” who posted a little ahead of you is unable to spell “Rocca”? Wow. It’s not like Anthony has never had an article written about him, or he is called something like Veszpremi. Thank the non-existent good lord this world still turns up such pie surprises.
Now Hentschel is injured, dunno why u would of picked him anyway.
I bet lots of traders aren’t at that “zen level of acceptance yet” and can’t take “risking a zero”.
Well, someone else said if you don’t take the risk in this game, you’re noy gonna win.
Diddlee deee, potatoes!
if your players have injuries you have to get rid of them in my oppinion. a 4 week injury is actually a 6 week cause may take another 2 weeks to get form back so better off getting rid of them
hopefully i have made the right call.
I had Raines and spangher starting and hill and suban on the bench, simply subbed those 2 on and put the other 2 on the bench.
My mids were a bit of a quandry had Anthony and beams as emergency and tuck starting, i traded anthony for Otten and subbed otten on for tuck as i think it will take at 8-10 weeks for Anthony to get back in to the side. if beams plays then i will have used a unnecessary trade but at least otten will make me some cash.
no.1 in wk 1 means nothing. but still, congrats on a good side. I have exactly the same 8 players u mentioned brendan and i am not trading. i am coming 21st overall in DT and i feel that trading now is so pointless as injuries will kill you later. therefore all my players are playing but if 1 late withdrawal i take a 0 but it won’t hurt later
I agree with The Fone. Why on earth Beams is not playing is beyond me….
Forward Trent Hentschel, who is two games into his comeback from a serious knee injury, has been cleared of structural damage to his knee.
Hentschel failed to re-emerge from the half-time break after experiencing discomfort in the same knee he had reconstructed in 2006.
He has swelling and fluid in the joint but was walking around in the rooms after the game and could be okay to play next week.
to The Fone and Heater - don’t be surprised if Mick is playing funny buggers with Beams - reckon he’ll play today!!
I had Raines and cousins unfortunately , lol i know a spud for picking cuz but anyway !!! so i had to get rid of cuz , i got dangerfield for him and then bit the nail and took gilbee for raines and still have 130 in the bank , so then i had the problem of who to start out of robinson and danger ??? i went danger and he had a good performance in sc yet scored only in the 50s unfortunately , now robo will go off and get 100 no doubt !!! thanks monty for the great site
How do you know robert shirley is in neil craig’s badbooks??? Monty? I think he will be back in this week for sure
m0nty we need to know when Coughlin is coming back. Get us a source!
Wooohoooo Dayne Beams is a late change!!!! We’re all saved!
i only just traded beams out for robinson! F@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@!
unreal!!!
glad i stabbed in the dark and left beams as emergency!
not that i’ll need him but makes me sleep better
@ Benno
“roccer” lmao
surely it’s too late for this one…
I have Raines with Hurley and Broughton as my reserves. Trading Raines next week, probably for Petrenko and i’ll hope he stays in the Crows side. Hoping Broughton gets a game and Hill doesn’t get dropped either.
Hentshchel gone
suspected ligament damage
not sure how acurate this is but thats the word I’m hearing
Lot of coaches had a hard on over Ottens performance last week but I bet they are feeling pretty flaccid right now… It’s trade baby trade all over again this week….
SC SC SC - I guess apart from Raines currently rotting om my backbench, Anthony rotting on my mid-bench and Yarran and Sidebtoom yet to play (and looking weeks away) - I’m OK. My team is at 1237 with 10 players in the tank (captain spent) overnight. The Gilbert trade looks a monty (sic) as you said with Raph Clarke gone. I’m less certain about Otten. If I cop a forward going down - I’m in trade land.
Thank god I picked Rance in my starting 30, as it took a lot of heat out of the Raines situation but that time is now coming to an end and I’ll have to cover soon. Raines will be sh.thouse for at least 2 months.
I’ve got Mitch Robinson on my mid bench next to Anthony, but with Stevo and Carrazzo coming back - unless young Mitch can take 30 possies a game and kick a couple - he’s just keeping the seat warm. What should I do - proactively grab a bench forward or just wait it out?
Trent Hentschel - did I mention he’s one of my forwards - hopefully he’ll be ok for next week?
that’s right let’s start all the trade talk all over again. ottens out, but reserve jesse white scores a ton in SC. bench ottens and rely on white for a while? how long? and white will rarely have such soft ruck opposition as hawthorn
2298 for sc, wow im even a spud at writing down numbers. Should change my name. BTW enjoy hentschell and ottens.
Robinson’s poor form & fantasy scores in this game will have a few people thinking! I reckon Andy Ottens looks pretty good now; appears to be more consistent. Dangerfield alos looks the goods. Anyone else???
Glad I left Beams as an aemergency; his 82 SC points will cover T.Tuck nicely.
i swapped anthony 4 beams.. that about it!
Butler -> Zarahakis
Looks like Tuck’ll be back next week but Hentschel out for a month. Any word how ling Anthony’s out for?
Ottens isn’t hurt that badly, just a strain, don’t worry too much.
what are you guys going to now that Nathan Bock is out indefinatley ??? Big decisions to be made
Hey Monty, how come you have not even considered Shannon Hurn for a straight swap with Raines? He is averaging just under 100 and is roughly the same price? Is there something I am missing about this kid? He looks like a gun to me with a booming kick.. will probably be WCE quarter back for year i reckon…
If you are prepared to wear a donut at this stage of the year your are a fool. This sort of loser talk plays right into the hands of seasoned DT vetrans who quite frankly have seen it all before.
I have played and lost grand finals with 3 trades in the bank. So i hung onto 3 trades, big deal. You do what you need to do, which is admit you were probably on smack when you picked 3 rookie backmen andrew walker in the first place and spend some serious time in front of the mirror.
Then trade anyone you can for Goddard
Shmoddard.
i am going to trade anthony for a.joseph to obtain 11k then i upgrade spangher to s.hurn
and i am going to keep raines
Hurn? Are you guys serious? He averaged about 50 for the past two seasons and by the end of this year he’ll have averaged about the same for this season too, regardless of how well he went in Rd1 and Rd2.
Josh - SPANGHER??? How did he ever get into your team in the first place? He’s a total spud. You might as well start planning for 2010!
Gonzo, if you can’t cover Raines without trading, you’re no DT gun.
Crawl back under that rock, pal. Anyone who finishes with 3 trades and doesn’t win the whole comp is a fool.
im getting brain lake in my team before he becomes premium
I have heard snippets about Gilbert from St.Kilda and he appears to be a very sensible choice for a trade with Raines - if the extra cash is there. I reckon the hype on Pettard and Cheney is all a bit too much, hence the wait on this trade unitl this week - even though i had to use Hill as my 7th back.
Gilbert for Raines? Is he worth the hype and will he continue his solid early season form? Thoughts?
@ Monty
Do you know if Moss has been elevated from Hawthorns rookie list??
@ Frank. I agree on Cheney. I don’t think many people have actually given it any thought. He’s just been mentioned a few times, is the right price and the right position and now everyone just assumes Cheney is the ‘cert’. I think he got most of his points last week in the final qtr (?).
Prior to Grimes’ injury I doubt many people had even heard of Cheney, let alone considered him a DT prospect. How many people picking him have considered how safe his spot is come May.
The Cheney thing smacks of ‘forum bandwagon’ and might just end up being another headache in 3-4 week’s time for many.
@ Tim,
All extremely good points you make regarding Cheney, however i would be interested to see some of your opinions on what you think is the best way to handle the Raines injury?
Are you agreeing with Frank that a sideways trade to Gilbert is a better outcome than a downgrade to Rance/Cheney plus plenty of cash to make an upgrade elsewhere?
Tim, I’m a Dees player sponsor, and I find your point badly made. Cheney was slated for round 1 with the Dees on the back of his NAB cup performances and pre-season and he was touted heavily on this blog and others well before Grimes went down. Refer cmiggles33’s rather humourous endorsements.
Coupled with a series of Dees backline injuries and re-injuries (Grimes / Garland / Wona / Wona / Wheatley / Whelan / Martin) and his excellent disposal while on wells, we see him named starting in the centre in Round 2. I don’t see him fading away without getting his 7 necessary games for him to plateau and ‘cash cow’.
Furthermore, his Q spread was 6 / 18 / 19 / 10, and not all in the last quarter as you supposed. Seems he got more points when the Dees were under the pump.
If you see a problem with him, fine, but please articulate a valid reason and don’t condescendingly refer to others on the site as bandwagon fantasy coaches, particularly whilst employing incorrect statistics and inferior football knowledge.
@ Peter G
Very eloquently put mate.
You have sold me, Raines for Cheney, Wells for Dal Santo.
Option 1 - Raines out, in Cheney. He plateaus at approx 270,000 week 6. Downgrade to rookie and take cash. 2 trades required.
Option 2 - Hold onto Raines. He comes back in 4 weeks and plateaus at approx 270,000 in week 12. Downgrade to rookie and take same amount of cash. 1 trade required.
But hey don’t let me compromise your decision to trade when the temptation for cash/points far outweighs the potential to keep trades and avoid the depths of DT oblivion.
Its interesting to read the comments to trade or not to trade.
Last year at this stage I traded Schnieder & Pearce for Ablett & Wellingham. It was the best move I made all season. I got my gun skipper each week and a few weeks later Wellingham played and made me a heap of cash. When I eventually traded Wellingham it helped me get Bartel in Rd12 or around that.
So all this scary talk about trading is just that, scary talk. If you trade now and it benefits your side then do it. Naturally that depends on who you trade (getting rid of Hodge now is madness for instance or trading sideways is not always wise) but if you think your trade just may be the difference then bite the bullet and do it.
Certainly helped my side as I went on to lose only 2 games and win the flag in my league….
Are you kidding Josh. Hurn averaged more than Gibbs in 07 (67) and also finished higher than him in the rising star… He was out most of last year with a busted leg!! The guy is a gun, look for this year to be a break out one for him.
I cant bring myself to pull the trigger on this one.
My thinking is Raines to Cheney and with the spare cash Wells, why oh why, to Dal Santo or Judd, talking s/c.
Can someone please tell me to either do it or tell me i am crazy and need to give Wells mor time??
Latest injury updates on afl.com showing:
Raines 2 weeks
Anthony 2-3 weeks
Grimes 1-2 weeks
Are Raines and Anthony worth hanging on to if they are only 2-3 weeks away?
Raines is probably doubtful but Anthony might be worth keeping and saving a trade. Nathan Van Berlo recovered very quickly from his pre season stress fractures in his foot so maybe Anthony is closer to palying than first thought.
brad
keep on to them if u want to win your league.
but if you’re going for a good overall position trade them.
raines for gilbert seems pretty obvious though.
The back line is a concern so this week….
OUT - Raines, Hill
IN - Houlihan, Rance
Raines - you take the risk that 4 weeks out becomes 8, he handballs too much and Houlihab is racking them up so you make some big $ this week, and Hill (Freo) will need a run so back to the WAFL for a few weeks, pre season form does not always mean you’re ready, his points mean little return for your investment.
That leaves Anthony to stay on the bench with Hurley despite the injuries, you have a backup in Beams and now Rance!
@ Peter G.
You’re quoting quarter-by-quarter stats from round 1. I was referring to round 2 stats. My stats are correct (well, I’m quoting Monty from a different post here), we just misunderstood each other.
Fair point on him being more prominent pre-season than I indicated.
Tell me - with Strauss, Whelan, Buckley, Grimes, Bell and Wonaeamirri all available within two weeks (yes I know some play in different roles)…but with these 6 available for selection in the Dees 22, do you see Cheney in the Dees 22? If so do you see him getting meaningful game time? Meaningful DT points? Why did he score so few points in the first 3/4s last weekend?
I worry that in 2-3 weeks, Cheney just becomes another necessary trade to fix a hole…you can’t turn over players every few weeks and make average $, you need to them to play and use the trades in the second half of the year.
First time poster, 3-4 month time veiwer….
Firstly, everyones posts pre-lock out was helpful to create some sort of team with half decent players hehe.
My theory is simple….dont be a spud picking ppl who are going to get injured to start with and those players which you have chosen which did get injured (Ie Anthony, Hurley) or have under performed (Ie Hoili) Burn them early and reep in the $ rewards. After your team is servicable then save your trades i think.
Im considering keeping raines and henchell tho
What do ppl think about burning like 3 trades early?
Dan
Tim, in terms of when to keep and when to trade, I’ll refer you to this excellent graph Monty posted in January:
http://www.fanfooty.com.au/blog/2009/01/25/when-to-reap-your-rookies/
I believe that Cheney will get at least 6 games, particularly as several of the players you mentioned will struggle to come straight back in, or will take longer (i.e. Wona’s out to 4 or 5). A couple more high scores and hopefully he can be offloaded at 250K for a 160K upgrade to a midranger, or hold the cash.
Irrespective, Cheney shouldn’t be playing on anyone’s field. He’s a solid bench cash cow / emergency.
Hill is gonna get another game this week harvey said he will stick with him. Just heard on radio
Keep your pants on fellas, I’m about to blog.
Im going to keep him in because he is god at sc