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Transition to power: positional battles in 2009

by m0nty | November 7th, 2008 | Comments : [22] | Categories: 2009 cheat cheet, AFL Dream Team, Lethal League, Other Competitions, Premium DT, Super Coach.

As Barack Obama prepares to take over as the next US President from George W. Bush, there are a few more power shifts on the minds of fantasy coaches this off-season, with older players looking like they will give up their spots in the senior 22 to younger upstarts… with a few at the Power!

It’s an inevitable part of sport that older champions have to give way to youth. Some teams commit hard to youth policies even before the senior brigade are ready to go, such as with Essendon and Damien Peverill this year. Personnel shifts are not always good for AFL players, it must be remembered. Daniel Cross, beloved of so many coaches in the first half of 2008, eventually succumbed to a little-reported aspect of his game: that his statistics tend to suffer when Scott West isn’t in the team. Nevertheless, fantasy coaches are always on the lookout for a youngster who has a doddering superannuant in his sights, just waiting for the opportunity to see his name on the teamsheet in the old bloke’s spot.

Let’s start with the Power. Brendon Lade has been their #1 ruck through their glory years in the early oughties but when Lade has been injured, Dean Brogan has shown himself to be a more than capable fantasy performer. With Blade getting blunter by the month at the age of 33, Fabian Deluca delisted and Port every chance to draft Tyrone Vickery at #4 this year, the writing is on the wall for the big fella. Brogan is nicely priced, though not at Troy Simmonds 2008 levels. Watch this situation in the pre-season… perhaps not in the NAB itself, but more in the Challenge games.

Also at Port Adelaide, Peter Burgoyne had a pretty poor year culminating with banishment to the SANFL to regain his form. While he did return in R19 and eventually put in two excellent games in the last two rounds, he’s on a one-year performance-based contract and his spot in the team is by no means assured. Waiting in the shadows is Marlon Motlop, who also played in those last two games and showed a bit. He’s almost guaranteed of a nice discount for next year in Dream Team and Super Coach, deflating his price back to a very manageable $182k in DT and $206k in SC. As a small rebounding defender, he could very well be 2009’s Garrick Ibbotson. If he’s named in round 1, look out.

At the Bulldogs, Brad Johnson is 33 years old and his body looked like it this year. Down at Whitten Oval they are crying out for a long-term replacement at full-forward, and Scott Welsh and Will Minson ain’t it. Jarrad Grant is the anointed successor, in more ways than one. He will gain a lot of hype in the NAB - or at least as much hype as the media can muster for a Bulldog player - so you’ll have plenty of opportunity to gauge his effectiveness as a fantasy player.

Windy Hill is full of kids these days, though there are still a few wrinklies to be ironed out. Scott Lucas is on the tips of every fantasy coach’s lips at the moment, with Scott Gumbleton also popular. Is the Bomber half forward line big enough for the two of them? I’m not so sure. One of them has to win out as second tall, I think, and my money’s on coach Matthew Knights preferring the younger player. The other issue there is when the Don midfielders streaming through the centre will see the two players in their peripheral vision, which one they will kick to more often - Lucas probably being the pick of the experienced players, if Matthew Lloyd’s waving arms don’t catch their eye first. You only have to look at afl.com.au today for signs that the messages are mixed from Essendon: here’s a pro-Gumbleton article and a pro-Lucas one. Picking the victor in this battle between age and youth - or deciding not to touch either of them - is going to be an important factor in fantasy forward lines next year.

The other sequoia in the Essendon lineup is Dustin Fletcher, who is so old that he must have some great stories to tell of playing on full forwards of years past, like Fred Fanning and Gordon Coventry. For fantasy purposes, though, all we’re concerned about is Fletcher’s rebounding duties, which will have to fall on someone else’s shoulders in future. Courtenay Dempsey is one candidate, though I fear it is more in hope than hard logic, since Dempsey’s constantly-twanged hamstrings are even more highly strung than Paul Chapman’s. David Myers is a more likely pick, though his price will discourage many coaches who would want him to take a step all the way to keeper status to justify buying him, which is probably out of the question for this year at least.

At the Saints, the handover by Robert Harvey is now complete, albeit that the cadre of his replacements (Clinton Jones, Robert Eddy, Jarryn Geary) have already played enough games to price them out of salary cap consideration this year. St Kilda fans spent a lot of hot air talking up Max Hudghton late in the season for All-Australian selection without success, and that’s the last time they’ll be able to do it I think, seeing as he’s now 33. Matt Maguire is not normally a name you’ll read in fantasy blogs but after averaging just over 30 this year and coming off averages of 60 in DT and 74 in SC in his last healthy year, it’s not out of the question that Maguire could be stashed on your bench as a cash cow. Maguire is even more injury-prone than Hudghton, admittedly, so he could only ever be considered as a bench back. Given the insane problems we all had with bench backs and copping multiple zeroes this year, it’s worth looking at.

I spent part of the last blog post talking up Matthew Richardson, so nominating him as being under the gun is a bit cheeky, but nevertheless something should be said about Jack Riewoldt’s status as his replacement. Richo’s role swinging between wing and full forward meant that Riewoldt played 18 games this year, but it didn’t allow Riewoldt to average more than 58 in either comp. It was perhaps no coincidence that Riewoldt’s best fantasy performance, his solitary DT ton of 105 against the Eagles in round 15, came when Richo was out of the team. The performances of the two are strongly linked, with it being rare that both of them will fire on the same day. If Richo starts the season poorly or misses a stretch through almost-inevitable injury, Riewoldt is the one who will benefit.

I’ve also talked a bit about Darren Milburn and how his selection is probably not going to be as automatic in future years at the age of 33 next April. The recovery schedule of Matthew Egan is currently a point of conjecture in the media, with the Cats hierarchy claiming he’s on track for round 1. The fitter Egan gets, the more pressure will be on Milburn to not slip up.

I’m sure there are other transitions ready to be made out there. Can you think of any?

 

22 Responses to “Transition to power: positional battles in 2009”

XztatiK Says: 2:53 pm, November 7th, 2008

Now that Nathan Bassett’s retired and Kris Massie’s wrongly delisted, There is a free spot for a third key in Adelaide’s backline. I expect Scott Stevens to play more up forward, and he’s more of a CHB/HBF when in defence anyway, so that leaves a spot for either Aaron Kite or Greg Gallman. Kite played a full season of league footy for Norwood last year after being a bottom-aged draft pick at #71. He is far ahead of Gallman at this stage and could easily play in round one if he shows good NAB form. He’s 190cm and 80kg and plays a bit like Sam Fisher if I had to make a comparison. Could be a solid bench defender.

Not sure what you see in Brogan, m0nty. Don’t forget he’s nearing the end too (will be 30 at rd.1). I don’t see much improvement there at all.


m0nty Says: 2:57 pm, November 7th, 2008

Simmonds was older than Brogan this year and he did well, X. It’s a matter of opportunity and TOG.


Dazza Says: 3:16 pm, November 7th, 2008

Monty, Simmonds had already proven that he was DT gun in 2006. His 2008 scores weren’t him benifitting from more opportunity but just him relishing an injury free year. For me to consider Brogan I would want Lade out of the picture entirely (injured/retired) and have Brogan carrying a young ruck through his first year (ie large TOG). As far as I’m concerned Brogan hasn’t proven himself as a DT’er so shouldn’t be compared to Simmonds. Incidently, I rate Simmonds as a good pick for 2009. He has always been exceptionally durable (rare for a ruckman) and could score a bit better in an improving Tigs side.


Chad Says: 3:20 pm, November 7th, 2008

Great stuff Monty. Wish marlon was the ibbotson this year, but i just dont know how we can fit him into the team when we get players like Chad Cornes, and Salopek back in the backline.

Will be interesting to see what Port do with the rucks. Do they go to brogan and vickery as starting ruckmen and have lade as a reserve incase of injury? or does Lade and Brogan go around again and make Vickey wait? #4 is the highest pick port adelaide has ever had (wish we got 1.4 what the gold coast team gets) so im sure they will want to get games into vickery.

Jack Riewoldt is still one i am not sure about. i mentioned him earlier. I have Goodes in my forward line, and i’m thinking if he isn’t classified as a forward i might have to change to Lockyer. Whats your thoughts on Lockyer Monty? Very durable, 2007 averaged 100, down to 80 this year.


m0nty Says: 3:22 pm, November 7th, 2008

We shall see on Brogan, Dazza. I reckon he’ll ruck with Vickery in the NAB and get a heap of interest, though you bring up good points.

Also on the Adelaide situation X mentions, the Crows coaches threw Myke Cook’s name in there as well.


m0nty Says: 3:23 pm, November 7th, 2008

Lockyer just about qualifies to be in this post, Chad. He’s another who will be supplanted by youngsters… Corrie probably.


Chad Says: 3:33 pm, November 7th, 2008

Lockyer would get 22 games tho i would think. is he a change to average 90? not sure.


Dazza Says: 4:50 pm, November 7th, 2008

I would stay away from Lockyer Chad, see if you can find a youngster who’s ready to displace someone like Lockyer.

Monty, another one to add to the Essendon forward line is Neagle. There’s obviously zero chance that they will go with Lloyd, Lucas, Gumby an Neagle in the same forward line. I think Lucas will move into the backline and then maybe you can fit the other three in. Otherwise, Gumby and Neagle may fight it out for the one spot. I’m confident Lucas can bounce back this year, in years gone by he has been eceptionally durable.

On Brogan, you’re probably correct in saying that he will increase his numbers but I think it will only be around a 5 point improveent - 10 points max (provided Lade is still in the picture).


XztatiK Says: 5:24 pm, November 7th, 2008

“Also on the Adelaide situation X mentions, the Crows coaches threw Myke Cook’s name in there as well.”

Yeah Cook could get games but he’s more of a runner, i think we’ll still need a third KD.

Agree with what Dazza said on Brogan/Simmonds. The most Brogan has ever averaged is 71, and that was last year so he is priced accordingly. Simmonds, however, averaged 94 in 06 and was only priced so low because of injuries on 07.

Saying all that, I still have no idea who my 2nd ruck will be :P


Chad Says: 8:34 pm, November 7th, 2008

I am gambling with 2nd ruck, have Naitanui and Vickery at 2 and 3. Will play one of them i reckon and use any extra cash in hard to fill positions like backline.


Dazza Says: 8:46 pm, November 7th, 2008

Starting a 1st year player in the ruck will end in tears Chad. Rucks traditionally don’t score well in their 1st year and are generally lucky to even get games. They take a long time to develope.


Chad Says: 8:34 am, November 8th, 2008

Yeh might have to re think my backline and remove a premium.


Dan Says: 11:37 am, November 8th, 2008

You’re a champ m0nty.
I was getting the shakes without my DT fix.
Dan.


Chad Says: 12:41 pm, November 8th, 2008

Yeh Great stuff Monty, would be great to keep the blog going, how about a blog where you say who you think will be the top 7 backs, top 6 mids, top 2 rucks and top 7 forwards


m0nty Says: 12:43 pm, November 8th, 2008

I’ll hold onto that idea Chad, thanks for that.


SWB Says: 9:30 pm, November 8th, 2008

haha good to see the blog up and running monty, all us die-hards need something to keep us going other than cricket in the summer.


CC Says: 8:19 am, November 9th, 2008

G’day, Was it Matt Thomas who was traded from Port to Richmond? Who ever it was who was traded, who’s place will he be taking in the Richmond side? I assume he’ll be playing most games. Seems a bit of a wasted trade if you’re not going to play him.

If it was Thomas who was traded, he’s still listed as a Port player in the fanplanner.


m0nty Says: 9:13 am, November 9th, 2008

Adam Thomson was the fellow. There are a lot of fringe Tigers that Thomson joins in fighting for a couple of spots in that Richmond midfield: White, Connors, Jackson, Polo, Oakley-Nicholls… not to mention Coughlan.


tom Says: 5:45 pm, November 11th, 2008

m0nty, didnt matt maguire already retire?


m0nty Says: 5:59 pm, November 11th, 2008

Nope.


dylan Says: 6:26 pm, November 12th, 2008

hey chad i recommend going for 2 pretty good ruck because last season i had sandilands and someone like kruzer and when i finally got rid of kruzer for cox my average went up 50-60 points and it was huge. i think most people forget about getting a good ruck when they pick a team.

speaking about ruck cox is going to be very high$$$ so do u guys think its better to wait a few weeks then go for him when he drops? or u think he will hold onto that average like he did this year.

big backfire last season i hoped he would drop but he never did so i had to do like 3 trades to get him in


Chad Says: 3:32 pm, November 14th, 2008

Adam Thomson i would think would get games. Richmond wouldn’t spend a pick if they weren’t going to play him. The problem is that he is expensive.




 

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