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Boys On The Bubble: Round 5, 2008

by m0nty | April 16th, 2008 | Comments : [32] | Categories: AFL Dream Team, Boys On The Bubble, Super Coach.

Due to popular demand, I will now include Herald-Sun Super Coach numbers as well as AFL Dream Team ones in the listings below. There are actually 29 players on the bubble this week, but I will only look at those whose breakevens are below their 2008 average. First, the players who are bubblicious in both DT and SC competitions.

One Swallow Doesn’t Make A Season

Matthew Kreuzer, CAR RUC. DT: 63,979 selections, $123,500, -32 BE, 62 avg. SC: 84,442 selections, $144,200, -41 BE, 63.5 avg
Shaun Grigg, CAR CTR. DT: 1,079 selections, $165,900, 22 BE, 51 avg. SC: 1,965 selections, $180,300, -5 BE, 56.5 avg

Everyone who has Kreuzer already is pleased. Nobody who hasn’t got Kreuzer should be wasting a trade on getting him in, IMO. Even if Trent West gets dropped this week - as the MRP should have done already for his hit on Xavier Clarke - it’s not worth burning a trade on your ruck bench this early in the campaign. Grigg is not worth considering.

What Did I Just Say

Mitch Morton, RIC FWD. DT: 2,040 selections, $259,000, 44 BE, 74.5 avg. SC: 1,991 selections, $319,200, 61 BE, 65 avg
Matt White, RIC CTR. DT: 489 selections, $180,500, 38 BE, 48.5 avg. SC: 576 selections, $243,700, 9 BE, 68.5 avg

I like Morton as a player. He impressed me when I saw him live in the pre-season against Geelong, he does nice things when he gets near the ball, but my concern is that he still doesn’t get enough of it. 70/76 when your team is murdering the opposition on a wide ground is not a good return for a HFF. White’s 58/92 on the weekend looked impressive from an SC point of view, particularly as he kicked three points and no goals. I don’t trust that form, however.

The Great White-Haired Hope

Clinton Jones, STK CTR. DT: 2,002 selections, $188,900, 35 BE, 53 avg. SC: 3,522 selections, $205,700, -3 BE, 63 avg

I was expecting reasonably large things out of Jones this year, if not big things. He was in that group with Jarryn Geary and David Armitage into whom fantasy coaches put a lot of research in the pre-season, and Geary ended up being the one to have in your squad from the start. Jones was a late in as an emergency this week, as was White above, which screams out “fringe player”.

Baby Bubble Bombers

Andrew Lovett, ESS CTR. DT: 1,674 selections, $328,400, 64 BE, 90.5 avg. SC: 2,722 selections, $408,700, 80 BE, 82 avg
Kyle Reimers, ESS FWD. DT: 3,143 selections, $154,900, -35 BE, 75.5 avg. SC: 8,543 selections, $128,800, -84 BE, 80.5 avg (Bubble Boy of the Week!)

Lovett has looked like a million dollars so far, though given the colours he’s wearing he’s only one more bursting run away from yet another three-week hamstring twang. Reimers looks more interesting to me: a kick to handball ratio of 25:7, plus five marks, two tackles and a goal each game. His lower SC price and higher scores make him even more attractive in that comp. The Bombers are hurting for talls with both Lucas and Lloyd injured, making him eve. One word of caution, however: his first two opponents were the Blues and Dogs, both of whom play expansive games. He’s got Collingwood and Port Adelaide in the next two weeks, two more teams who allow space to opposing forwards. Sydney in round 8 and Adelaide in round 10 await, however.

Eaglets To The Slaughter

Chris Masten, WCE CTR. DT: 16,104 selections, $115,500, -29 BE, 57.5 avg. SC: 10,167 selections, $134,200, -27 BE, 54 avg
Ben McKinley, WCE FWD. DT: 3,195 selections, $130,300, -34 BE, 66 avg. SC: 6,017 selections, $118,000, -116 BE, 93.5 avg
Scott Selwood, WCE BAC/CTR. DT: 44,094 selections, $83,500, -22 BE, 42.5 avg. SC: 59,806 selections, $94,200, -69 BE, 63 avg

Selwood was one of the most popular players in the whole of Dream Team before the season started, and after round 3 all of his owners would have been patting themselves on the back. Masten owners, too, would have been pleased. Even after the predictable Swans effect, it can only get better for them. McKinley is the one out of the box, however. Kicking 80% of the Eagles’ goals is no mean feat, even if they do have the worst points for in the AFL. Given how poorly many of the premium forwards have performed over the first four rounds it’s going to be very tempting to a lot of you out there to downgrade a Brad Johnson, Matthew Lloyd or Kayne Pettifer to either McKinley or Reimers, and pour the money into your suffering backline. If you decide to go that route, I would recommend Reimers in DT and McKinley in SC. The other possible scenario by which you could pick up McKinley or Reimers this week is if you have Kurt Tippett. Tippett has been used as a decoy forward at best by the Crows. He has also been called upon to pinch hit in the ruck with disastrous results for his fantasy scoring, leading to three consecutive sub-40 DT scores after his opening 51. With a breakeven of 10 he’s still going to be earning you some pocket change, but selling him will eventually earn you a nice profit. Personally, though I have Tippett, I’m saving the trade, but I wouldn’t blame you for taking the chance.

Take A Good Hard Look

Austin Wonaeamirri, MEL BAC/CTR. DT: 8,246 selections, $72,600, -62 BE, 58.5 avg. SC: 8,322 selections, $83,400, -84 BE, 67 avg

By no means is Wonaemirri turning in 22-worthy scores. However, if you are still carrying one of the multitudinous overhyped non-playing back rookies this week like Scott D. Thompson, Lachie Hansen, David Myers or Jamie McNamara, it’s a pretty safe decision to make a sideways rookie trade.

DT-only prospect

Max Rooke, GEE BAC. DT: 2,972 selections, $235,400, 58 BE, 59 avg.

No.

SC-only prospects

Paul Duffield, FRE BAC/CTR. SC: 1,318 selections, $310,300, 33 BE, 76.5 avg.
Brendon Goddard, STK BAC. SC: 6,081 selections, $483,600, 96 BE, 96.5 avg.
Robert Warnock, FRE RUC. SC: 1,464 selections, $254,800, 49 BE, 51.5 avg.

Goddard is the only one of interest here, obviously. Having been priced at an average of 80 in DT and 90 in SC, and starting with an 85/103 from limited TOG in round 3, plenty of coaches had their beady eyes on his formline. This week he turned in a 62/90, pushing his DT breakeven to 114 but leaving his SC breakeven at a gettable 96. I think he’s a decent SC pickup now but I remain to be convinced that he can push his price high in the short term, so I’d wait on him to bottom out and concentrate elsewhere in your team for now.

 

32 Responses to “Boys On The Bubble: Round 5, 2008”

Athomas Says: 6:23 pm, April 16th, 2008

1st comment! :P
nice work m0nty!


PaulM81 Says: 6:48 pm, April 16th, 2008

Another quality read Monty. Thankyou!!!!

I was watching the news toninght and they said Brad Johnson has been struggling all of the season with a groin problem (never good) and is unlikely to play this week. I do not trust groin problems (a la Judd last year) and intend to trade him out of my supercoach team for McKinley. Thankfully I dont have him in DT.

Also, is the coaches box on again tonight?


Darcy Says: 7:22 pm, April 16th, 2008

who do you think will play more games Wonaeamirri or Selwood and who would you get it is just for the bench


steve Says: 8:15 pm, April 16th, 2008

josh hill trade for reimers any ideas ??? ….. 155,600 change over too


pez Says: 12:30 pm, April 17th, 2008

IMO???


Nick Says: 1:10 pm, April 17th, 2008

IMO - In My Opinion.

I wouldn’t trade out Josh Hill for a few rounds yet, he’s going to make more money than someone like Kurt Tippet, so long as Reimers is named.


duckboy1 Says: 2:17 pm, April 17th, 2008

Need some cash for backline moves (getting rid of Jason Gram)… Nathan Thompson for Kyle Reimers?

Thompson keeps seeming to save himself with garbage time goals.I suppose they count all the same but…?


Eric Says: 5:24 pm, April 17th, 2008

“Nobody who hasn’t got Kreuzer should be wasting a trade on getting him in, IMO”

I’ve got Max Bailey on the bench, who doesn’t seem to be getting a game. Surely that would OK for me to trade him for Kreuzer ?


chops Says: 5:43 pm, April 17th, 2008

Bailey is injured - according to injury reports at least 4-5 weeks before being available for selection
He might get a game midseason.


browns13 Says: 6:59 pm, April 17th, 2008

I know monty rates reimers over Mckinley in DT but I’ve gotta say i disagree (sorry monty haha) Mckinley is 20 000 cheaper and he has palyed in two losses (one against dream team killers the swans) for similar scores. On the other hand reimers has been in open goal fests against the doggies and the blues. Seeing as both are forwards this would haev a drastic effect on scores and as such i think Mckinley will out score reimers in the long term.

but thats jsut my two cents haha.

anyone got an opinion on joel Macdonald? like the look of him but dont know enough about him.


Woofta Says: 7:29 pm, April 17th, 2008

Brisbane have Drummond and Roe to come back in to the backline.


sean Says: 8:48 pm, April 17th, 2008

is it worth keeping proud? i have proud, edwards and selwood all of which arent playing, is it worth trading proud for wonaeamirri and freeing up cash?


Big Perm (Perms Panthers) Says: 8:57 pm, April 17th, 2008

Good to see Lenny Hayes back in form last week ……… now that the shackles are broken, look out …. no relevance to any other comments above


Findi Says: 9:15 pm, April 17th, 2008

Darren Pfeiffer is listed last on the extended bench. Any idea if he will play or not?


Gor Says: 9:27 pm, April 17th, 2008

considering getting wonaemirri for that clown boy they call lachlan hansen but anyone who plays for melbourne shouldn’t really be looked at, should they???

also, travis cloke gonna come good or should i just get rid of him for j.brown already?


Woofta Says: 9:51 pm, April 17th, 2008

Sean re Proud:
He was BOG last week for the suncoast lions but did not get a game this week.Harding was 2nd best and also missed out.Brisbane have Drummond,Roe and Mitch Clark{a Mathews favourite]to return. I cannot believe however that they will keep both Hooper and McGrath in the team.


Killer Says: 10:37 pm, April 17th, 2008

Big Perm, again with Lenny Hayes?? Your infatuation is unhealthy


Jordox Says: 10:56 pm, April 17th, 2008

anyone know how long t.tuck will be out for?

and owners of b.hall, who we gonna trade him for??


ChappiesGoal Says: 10:57 pm, April 17th, 2008

“overhyped non-playing back rookies this week like Scott D. Thompson, Lachie Hansen, David Myers or Jamie McNamara”

Jamie McNamara is a midfielder.


PaulM81 Says: 12:32 am, April 18th, 2008

What to do.

I’m sitting here looking at Jarryn Geary and Scott DT wondering if they’re gonna get another game soon. I am also looking at Chris Masten and Austin Wona()&@@%^*#^@ wondering if they are worth the trade. I have bugger all good cash cows, apart from forwards and have used 1 trade. I would be very interested to hear from anyone with an informed opinion on these player. Particularly Geary and how he is going in the 2’s. I have a feeling the Masten train is one you don’t want to miss………


steve Says: 7:07 am, April 18th, 2008

im looking for a premium centre avereging 100 or more in SC worth up to 524,000 any ideas ?? i will pay top dollar or even consider value for money.


Hugh Says: 10:59 am, April 18th, 2008

I want to trade out Bowden and Nicoski any ideas how I should trade in, I already have Cornes, Shaw, King, Symes & Barlow and 220K in the bank I was thinking of Waters & McLeod or Mattner


Pottsy Says: 11:43 am, April 18th, 2008

Hey everyone, I’m loving this page, great work Monty!
I’m looking to get rid of Tredrea (don’t ask why I have him) and am not sure who to bring in? Thinking of Buddy or JB, but then through Richo into the mix cos they have him on the wing and he is due to go up. Any ideas would be great??!!! (200k in the bank)


Duckie Says: 4:03 pm, April 18th, 2008

Yea. I doubt I’ll stick with Tippet, since Gamble, Hall, stokes not playing. Probably take McKinley. Only stinger I have now is Nicoski.


Trev Says: 4:03 pm, April 18th, 2008

What is the deal with Wonaeamirri, who has he been elevated for and when is the likely date he will be back on the rookie list?


browns13 Says: 4:21 pm, April 18th, 2008

when do final 22s for eagles game come out??


PaulM81 Says: 4:43 pm, April 18th, 2008

Trev,

Wonaeamirri was elevated for Jack Grimes, who has a back injury and is listed as ‘indefinate’ on the AFL site.


Ken Says: 5:35 pm, April 18th, 2008

there out now browndog. sundayteams are released 5.10 EST friday


browns13 Says: 6:07 pm, April 18th, 2008

yeh got them, thanks ken, might give nico another week now


Chris Says: 11:50 am, April 23rd, 2008

Gotta agree with browns13 too, Reimers has shone with no Lloyd/Lucas, but a bit of form from Lloyd could see him become the sole focal point for bombers again.

McKinley, on the other hand, has manufactured goals and form on the back of some very ordinary distribution from the West Coast midfield and looks as if he’ll continue to do so.
If, however, the eagles midfield starts to show any sort of class, he could really start to fire and be like a Westoff from last year.

Or maybe I’m wrong and he’ll be playing WAFL by round 10, just my thoughts though.


Nick Says: 12:39 pm, April 23rd, 2008

McKinley, out of all the times I’ve seen him play, is the only dangerous forward the Eagles have.

He won’t be sent back to the waffle when he scores all the teams goals.

He’s Nick’s Safe Bet of the Week and it’s not too late to get on the band wagon. I would consider Josh Hill a good trade for him, Hill is starting to balance out and right now with McKinley staring down some large gains, you will end up better off financially and structurally at the end of the day.

Prove me wrong Josh Hill, go score another 3 100 pt rounds in a row. You only have this week to make your choice.


steve Says: 7:36 pm, April 23rd, 2008

JOSH HILL IS AS GOOD AS GONE FOR ME. AS SOON AS I CAN FIND A REPLACEMENT. IM ALSO SWEATING ON MY POWER FORWARDS TO TURN IT ON THIS WEEK IE J.BROWN AND PAVLICH, CONSIDERING REIWOLDT IS ONLY 50/50 TO PLAY THIS WEEK WITH INJURY.




 

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